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John C Dvorak: He slippery,
slippery. He's very, very
Adam Curry: slippery.
Unknown: Adam curry Jhansi
Dvorak
Adam Curry: April 13 2023 This
Year Award Winning Combination
media assassination episode 1546
Unknown: This is no agenda.
Adam Curry: Miss flopping in
Fort Lauderdale and broadcasting
live from the heart of the Texas
hill country here in the region
number six in the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where he evolved
notice that Jamie Oliver cannot
cook those meals in 15 minutes.
He's full of it. I'm just eating
borax.
Adam Curry: I agree. I agree.
It's a sham man. Look at that
guy only as a total Sham, total
Sham. Hey, I had Horowitz I was
texting with Horowitz up until
like 11 Last night 1130 He was
free up to he was freaking out.
But what Oh, you didn't hear
about the flooding.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Wow.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm surprised he
didn't get flooded.
Adam Curry: So he had there was
well it was two more feet to go
at around 1130 before his house
would start the flooding. And
the high tide wasn't expected
until 3am.
John C Dvorak: To be up all
night,
Adam Curry: you of course he was
and so have
John C Dvorak: you seen this you
see the films This is
unbelievable. Let's
Unknown: get back to South
Florida where over 20 inches of
rain fell yesterday into the
overnight parts of South South
Florida catastrophic flash
flooding as supercells stalled
even spun up multiple tornadic
circulations but the water was
everywhere with nowhere to go
and it just kept coming. This
person trying to walk through
the water with luggage at the
Fort Lauderdale Airport, which
was close look at this water
easily up to their knees you can
barely make out where the road
where the sidewalk is. And this
person even swimming in the
street
Adam Curry: tore Natick
circulations. I like that.
John C Dvorak: I was looking at
this report last last night
there. They were talking about
moments of eight inches of rain
an hour.
Adam Curry: It was insane. And
so he wound up six inches short
of flooding.
John C Dvorak: He got lucky.
Adam Curry: Have you ever been
to his house? In Fort
Lauderdale? No. So you know he
has his is this you know it's
not a big house but he has a
small dock and and his boat is
parked right out back? Yeah. So
the boat was almost floating
into his backyard, his barbecue,
his whole Tiki hut I think I
don't know it was stuff was
floating away. And he had just
just six inches before the House
would flood. That's crazy.
That's crazy. Well, of course,
we know. We know obviously, that
this is climate change. And
right on cue ABC this morning.
Unknown: A new study warns sea
levels are rising in the south
accelerating rapidly since 2010.
Putting 10s of millions in the
path of future floods
we haven't seen anything
comparable of over the past
century.
The study's co author says sea
levels along the southeast and
Gulf Coast are rising at rates
unprecedented in at least one
120 years, rising nearly five
inches just since 2010. That's
about double the global rate
not only increasing along the
coast there but it extends into
the adjacent North Atlantic
Ocean and into the Caribbean Sea
humans in part to blame for the
rising sea levels. due to
greenhouse gases and aerosols.
We could attribute approximately
40% of the acceleration to
manmade climate change. But 60%
of it is natural climate
variability naturally balanced
that always occur.
We say hurricanes have been more
severe in recent years due to
higher sea levels and storm
surge, including hurricane
Michael in 2018.
It's been very traumatic. I just
I can't hardly eat. Sleep is
unthinkable.
Michael hit Florida's panhandle
as a category five. And
hurricane in last year claimed
the lives of more than 100
people in Florida. I don't have
the house, I don't know where to
go. And scientists continue to
warn that we need to turn to
clean energy but we also must
adapt to the higher sea levels
because they say we may not see
the full impact of the changes
we make today for generations.
Oh, we'll
Adam Curry: keep this going for
generations. Nice. Yeah, nice.
You know, I'm very disappointed
though. Not a single report that
had fish flopping in Miami.
John C Dvorak: I you know, I was
gonna say the same thing where
the fish in the streets
Adam Curry: are the fish
flopping around. But man, the
climate change. They're really
coming down now especially in
California. I'm sure you've
heard about this. This law that
passed about electricity rates
and that you know the well you
have PSE and G and S, D, G and E
and all these different
electricity companies have to
come up with ways to implement
this law. Did you hear about
this law? This probably equity
law. Yeah, listen to those
equity lawyer that'll stop
climate change. Oh, no, it
won't, but it'll make
Unknown: people poor this change
wouldn't go into effect for at
least another year or more
essentially, people would be
billed based on their income. So
while a lot of customers will
wind up saving money, others
could pay more
legislature passed a law last
year that requires a real
fundamental change in how
electricity is priced in the
state of California that law
says Scott Crider, STG knees
Vice President of External
Affairs and Operations Support
requires California utility
companies come up with a fixed
rate plan as a way to help
stabilize rates make billing
more equitable criteria laid
down with me to talk about STG
knees joint proposal with pg&e
and SoCal Edison saying it
differs greatly from how
customers are billed. Now,
currently, you not only pay for
how much electricity your
household uses, but other things
such as how that electricity is
deliver, both prices vary month
to month. SDG nice plan is to
offer residential customers a
fixed delivery rate every month,
no matter how much electricity
is used,
by having a fixed price for the
delivery portion of
Adam Curry: John, when this gets
implemented, I am sending 20
Bitcoin miners to your house.
Because we can just use as much
as we want and print Bitcoin for
free. Basically, this is crazy
Unknown: that we can actually
reduce the remaining electricity
rate by about 42%, which
Adam Curry: oh, we're gonna
reduce everyone's gonna win, of
Unknown: course that look like
under the current billing system
at 47 cents per kilowatt hour,
the average customer pays $188
per month, under the fixed rate
proposal, they pay $181. Here's
a breakdown of where you'd fall
based on your income pay
attention, households making
less than $28,000 a year would
pay a fixed delivery rate of $24
per month 169,000. That fixed
price goes up to $34. Between 69
and $180,000 $73. Households
making over $180,000 will pay
$128 a month, everyone's average
kilowatt hour rate drops from 47
cents to 27. Posle is income
base. But some people feel
uncomfortable about giving away
their financial information.
We would agree we don't want
customers financial information.
Our perspective is the state it
will be very, very capable to be
able to do this and really be
able to send us the data that's
needed.
Adam Curry: I lived in Los
Angeles in 2009. I was not
paying $188 a month for
electricity.
John C Dvorak: I'm not paying I
mean, I'll take that. I'll take
that though. Everything they
said I did. Yeah, but you don't
think that's actually
Adam Curry: true. I mean, how
can they do that? I mean,
John C Dvorak: I can do it. I do
get this bullcrap.
Adam Curry: Well, what do you
mean, it's a law that passed and
there
John C Dvorak: hasn't been
implemented and when and they
breached and they pushed these
off, so it's not implemented
right away is so the courts can
come in and say, Now you can't
do this because it's illegal. He
gets kickback and then the
government has tried I tried but
the courts I've seen this a
million times is California
politics.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Well, that
makes Well that makes me feel
better for you and sad about my
wife. I
John C Dvorak: was gonna get a
good deal from the sounds of it.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Well, I was I was I
was saving for the Bitcoin
miners. I'm ready. Let's go go
go. Hey, does does Jay have
room? I mean, no white JC in his
house there.
John C Dvorak: Everybody's got
enough room for a few miners.
Adam Curry: A few miners your
way. Wow. But I mean this it's
just wow, what is squeaking? Is
that your chair? That is a
squeak sorry. Sure. But I was
reading about tech companies.
The Bloomberg a Bloomberg is all
in on this. And they had a
Autodesk Autodesk a big company
I think Autodesk Oh yeah, huge.
Autodesk This is from Bloomberg
is proud of its bonafide as a
clean company. It reports it
feeties I like bonafides Yes,
bone a fetus. Okay. It reports
the Wendling emissions and
invest millions in technology
aimed at improving the
environment. There's one hitch
watch this company become an
investable. It's its software is
used to design and operate
machinery for the biggest coal
mine complex in Europe's in
Europe fully production at the
pits owned by German energy
giant go after Microsoft and
everywhere in the world.
Exactly. It's being expanded
ahead of the 2030 phase out of
the highly polluting energy
source climate activist Greta
Thornburg was detained there in
January. So yeah, they're going
after them. they did on
investable because they are not
green. They're going to get a
bad ESG score.
Unknown: Yeah, good.
John C Dvorak: Man, Greta
Sternberg.
Adam Curry: So on the heels of
all this, you know, they
continue to push fake meat
manufactured meat, you know,
just no meat. That's probably
that's probably the hardest push
no meat at all. CNN COMM And
writing on cube with another
one, these bull crap companies.
Unknown: We've developed modular
platforms that can 3d print
meats, real meat, not something
that mimics weeds. So it all
starts with a cell that is
collected from a real animal in
an ethical way without harming
the animal, a real animal.
Afterwards, we differentiate the
cells into either muscle cells,
or fat cells, we load the cells
into our bioink and load them in
fire our printers we can decide
exactly what's the fat
percentage and composition of
steak. Definitely 3d print
steak, you take it into an
incubation and maturation
process, meaning that the muscle
fibers connect one to each
other. As this whole industry
will evolve, we will see more
advanced products that will
replace the state that we are
used to eat in the
Adam Curry: restaurant. How
about the steak, I eat it home,
forget the restaurant. The other
strip portion of the process
looks completely undoable. But
even in the Netherlands, they're
now saying, you know, too much
red meat that people consume the
Dutch the Dutch is really
costing seven and a half euros
per kilo in health care costs
you see, because you eat the red
meat and you get sick, and then
everyone has to pay for your
colon cancer. So they so they
want to increase a tax of seven
euros per kilo of meat. And this
is how and of course the
Netherlands is the number one
country
John C Dvorak: is about $3.50 a
pound on top of which you're
already paying.
Adam Curry: correct about that?
Yeah. In tax in the Netherlands
is the number one country for
food and food texture and taste
products chemicals.
John C Dvorak: Yes, it sounds
like this tax is just done for
the purposes of pushing yeah
marketing their own businesses
marketing marketing,
Adam Curry: the other company
marketing scam. So Texas slim
came by. He stopped over on his
one of his many travels. He had
just come back from promoting
the beef initiative in
Australia. So I got to kind of a
boots on the ground in
Australia. He says and I hate to
say it for our producers. He
says Australia is lost. He said
it's a food desert. Everyone's
eating colorful packaged
chemicals. They literally they
literally are getting you know
crap beef from China or whatever
it was, whatever it is, or
through China, but it's not a US
not even Australian beef. And he
gave me a few
John C Dvorak: I forgot could
because God knows there's not
enough space in Australia to
have a herd of cattle.
Adam Curry: Well, they take that
cattle in the in the Chinese eat
it as caviar. That's not that's
the whole joke of it. And so he
brought me back one of those new
Australian dollar $5 bills,
John C Dvorak: plastic, plastic,
but
Adam Curry: check it out. It's
so the so the whole thing is
here. The whole thing is
plastic. But Canada too. But the
middle part, probably about an
inch in with is clear plastic,
almost like the bill is
disintegrating before your eyes.
And this is little hole, which
I'm sure it's like some plastic
watermark to prove its
authenticity. And that's also
clear to the bill looks like it
looks like it's dissolving,
which of course is a beautiful
metaphor. And he says
everybody's on electronic
electronic money. They don't
even use the plastic money
anymore. And all of it's being
tracked and they're getting
their carbon credit score on
their credit card bills or their
debit card bills. They're lost
the computer going
John C Dvorak: to be completely
under control. I feel that with
this began when they took all
their guns away. Yeah,
Adam Curry: exactly. That's what
he said everyone says. And also
there's some give me up this
whole push for Africa that we've
been seeing from, you know,
certainly European countries or
Russia, China and pathetic
attempts by our A Blinken and
Kamala Harris that apparently is
also to raise beef in Africa.
And we might as well do it there
so we can have our cell cultured
meat here. No, no, I haven't
heard that. Yeah, this is new.
This is new. Yep, it's Africa.
That's where they want to win. I
want to I want to know on the on
the Download make that the bread
Ask it cheap come as cheap
John C Dvorak: plenty of land as
cheap as good
Adam Curry: Oh all right so got
that off my chest we're all
gonna die for climate change
everybody but don't worry
everything we're doing now will
take generations to see the
effects so let's keep going to
point the train rollin keep
enrolling people now of course
before then we will all die from
AI Artificial Intelligence I was
talking to Christina she is
pretty level headed but she even
got the programming dad I think
a we're all gonna die he is
gonna take over it's thinking
for itself now. Christina
John C Dvorak: speaking for
itself Yeah,
Adam Curry: my new line is AI
will become real when enough
humans trust it to achieve
Idiocracy. That's one of the
yeah then we'll die when we're
when we think that Gatorade will
sit will save us
John C Dvorak: electrolytes
Adam Curry: Alexa electrolyte so
how do you do this? How do you
start to shepherd this? You and
I agree total bull crap in this
this unaffordable bull crap. We
have no business model for it.
No one's gonna pay for a chat
GPT command line. So the first
thing you do is you you create
news anchors which are wholly
unconvincing.
Unknown: Diamond check the
Polson Oh Rihanna and we begin
with some TV debuts making us
nervous about our job security.
That's
because their new anchors are
powered by artificial
intelligence. First there Santa
was a green daily news updates
on India Today her boss calls
her tireless and ageless.
She started by doing the weather
and you forgot it's really good
to have the sun back. I don't
really like the cold or rain.
That's the national government.
Joining the ranks of AI anchors
is Fetta from Kuwaiti news she's
updating the news on Twitter.
Adam Curry: Okay very
convincing. We should be very
afraid of this but yet we got
another another little chink
then a little chink in the
armor. And then I
John C Dvorak: like to Federer
as it does a name because it's
just a pretty cheesy
Adam Curry: Well, unfortunately,
they write it f e D h a is I
guess it's some some Arabic name
but Fetta works for me too, is
cheese. But now we got to go to
France 2014 where they're hyping
it up because Ali Baba is
coming.
Unknown: Yeah, in China. We're
seeing a lot of movement on this
front. Because a new artificial
intelligence model has now been
released by Alibaba, no less.
Justice authorities in Beijing
are looking to impose their own
rules on this sector. Now
Alibaba has released a
generative artificial
intelligence platform designed
to rival the Microsoft back chat
GPT Google and Chinese tech
giant Baidu are among those who
have already unveiled similar
platforms. Now Alibaba says its
version will be integrated into
its own apps in the near future.
The chat bot is called tongue
week 10 When which means truth
from 1000 questions. It's said
to be able to draft letters or
trip itineraries advise shoppers
on what cosmetics to buy,
summarize. But it's unlikely to
have free rein because China's
cyberspace Security
Administration published its own
guidelines for artificial
intelligence, saying that a
security assessment will be
required before they're allowed
to go live. Chat bots in China
will have to quote reflect the
core values of socialism and not
subvert state power. Developer
first will also have to ensure
the technology doesn't
discriminate based on ethnicity,
race or gender, and that it
doesn't generate false
information. Now, we don't know
how those draft rules might
Elementor but governments and
business leaders around the
world are paying close attention
to this fast developing sector.
Italy has banned chat GPT
altogether and figures within
the tech industry including Elon
Musk have warned that things
could spin out of control if the
technology is rolled out too
quickly.
Adam Curry: It's gonna spin out
of that's gonna spin out of
control completely breathless.
Yeah, well she she sees her job
is on the line she sees Fetta
coming up and you heard case
might not be as bad but the best
report I got and and now this is
so full of holes. Is this from
Arizona local television. They
had a whole pack that I'm not
even going to play the opening
headline do through through
scary scary scary Oh, no AI here
straight into the package.
Unknown: The phone number was
unfamiliar. Jennifer Stefano
almost let it go to voicemail.
But her 15 year old was out of
town skiing. Maybe there had
been an accident.
I pick up the phone and I hear
my daughter's voice and it says
mom and she's sobbing as what
happened and she's like, Mom, I
messed up and she's sobbing and
crying. And then I hear a man's
voice say put your head back lie
down. And then like wait, what's
what's going on? And this man
gets on the phone And he's like,
listen here. I've got your
daughter. This is how it's gonna
go down. He called the police.
You call anybody I'm gonna pop
or something so full of drugs.
I'm gonna have my way with her
and I drop her off in Mexico.
And at that moment I just
started shaking. I'm like, what?
In the background? She's going
help me Mom, please help me help
me falling. And you have
absolutely
no doubt in your mind that that
was her voice.
Oh, what 100% Her voice? Her
voice it was never a question of
you know who is is or it was
completely her voice. It was her
inflection. It was the way she
would have cried never doubted
for one second it was her.
That's what the freaky part that
really got me to my core.
There wasn't any of it. It was
just a clone. Created by
artificial intelligence, you
can no longer trust your ears.
Bringing the
Indian guy he's an expert on
potty is a computer science
professor at Arizona State who
specializes in AI. He says voice
cloning technology is rapidly
improving
meow. There are ways in which
you can do this with just three
seconds of your voice. So within
three seconds, you can come
extremely close to how exactly
you sound. And you don't even
need any special equipments. I
chose a free program for a test
and I'm not actually talking.
Adam Curry: So then she she does
her own voice which doesn't
sound like her at
John C Dvorak: all. You know
this scam that was just
described by this woman who's to
fake kidnapping that has been
that's decades old. Also, and
they have to have somebody in
the backyard mom help me mother.
And it's always my daughter she
don't you imagine is her and
meanwhile your your daughter's
at school. This is nothing new
Adam Curry: will notice the kid
was on a skiing trip. I'm
thinking they were punking her
mom or doing something or you
know, the end the whole story
that never come back to it. How
do we know that it wasn't true?
How do we don't know any of
this? amp and this Mom, I'm
sorry. First she says she
doesn't sound distressed at all
about this horrible thing that
happened to her. And she
couldn't be 100% My daughter
100% My daughter, huh? But these
types of stories you know it
literally this news reporter I
think got an instruction do a
story. Okay, I'll find something
don't worry.
John C Dvorak: No. That's
exactly how it works.
Adam Curry: And we're not always
wrong. When we look at stories
that have a different headline
today. Just before the show. I
read a rest made in San
Francisco killing of Bob Lee.
Remember the guy who got
stabbed? Right. Tech execs
alleged killer also worked in
tech. It appears he was they
were in the same car. There was
some kind of argument and the
guy stabbed him. The guy has
been arrested. It was sold to us
as crime in San Francisco. And
what did we say? Sounds like a
hit.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what
the first thing comes to mind.
The way they describe the
situation. Yeah. So we'll see
how I mean the guy's resume told
us about the use roaming around
walking around the streets. Not
walking around, stabbed. And
then somebody came up to him and
they saw the they have video
Yep. guy gets stabs him for no
good reason and runs off and
they can't find the guy. Now how
does that even work? If he was
already stabbed in a car, and
then what was it kicked out of
the car? I mean,
Adam Curry: I know I'm still I'm
still waiting for the hit
reporting. Of course, is
dubious. All of the news is
dubious.
John C Dvorak: You know, a lot
of this AI bot thing. I think a
lot of it might be also a setup
minor one. But it's set up for
the idea that the Chinese are
running these, these pro Trump
bots.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. And of
course Elon isn't stopping them
on Twitter.
John C Dvorak: Well, I have a
report. My friend, Laura Lopez
from PBS is the woman who claims
that the riots in 2020 the
George Floyd riots were a right
wing.
Adam Curry: Right wing?
Portland. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: she made that
assertion has somebody on to
prove it. She gets weird. You
know what it is? I think she's
she finds these weird guests.
And in this case, you're gonna
have to kind of bear with who's
actually in this report. And
then you'll see it's, it's, it's
just the it they're no good.
Okay. Let's listen to this as
PBS Laura Lopez As I got Rudy,
Rudy and I don't know what that
is supposed to mean, Russia and
Rudy and bots won.
Unknown: In the wake of former
President Donald Trump's
indictment, there's been an
explosion of foreign
interference aimed at dividing
the American electorate and
sowing distrust in institutions.
Laura Barone, lo
Pelling brings us this exclusive
Adam Curry: selling distrust and
insert What did they have a
price tag? What is this? What is
this leading, selling distrust
in institutions? That by itself
is dubious.
John C Dvorak: But PBS NewsHour
has been is dubious
Adam Curry: to say they are
selling sewing or selling I
heard selling was it so she said
selling oh, maybe she says
Unknown: again dividing the
American electorate and sewing
Adam Curry: okay showing Oh, no
take sewing. But even then
dividing the
Unknown: American electorate
frying distrust in institutions.
Laura Barone Lopez brings us
this exclusive data.
New research shared first with
news our shows a covert effort
by Russian and Chinese backed
actors to interfere with
American news and opinions about
Trump's arrest. The analysis
comes from the global security
and intelligence firm Soufan
Center and the data science firm
limbic. Here's what they learned
as news of the indictment broke
and Trump was arraigned, the
volume of online posts about the
former president spiked, going
from the typical 26,000 posts
every day to more than 448,000.
helping drive that engagement
were automated fake accounts
known as bots. These accounts
are closely linked to the
Russian and Chinese government's
operating with the tacit
approval of the state. They
share Russian and Chinese state
media articles across multiple
platforms or retweet them and on
Twitter. The Amplified support
for Trump during the
arraignment.
Adam Curry: Amplified oh they
amplified Okay, the Soufan
center this is this is a new
actor.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, first of
all, before you start looking
both these guys up, I'll tell
you a couple of things. Their
intelligence wannabes. Both of
them
Adam Curry: started by former
FBI Special Agent Ali Soufan.
John C Dvorak: Yeah he's the one
guy's got some connection ran.
But there's a one to be
operation you can tell there's
no connection to the limbic is
worse. The limbic guy who she
brings on never says that he's
the founder never just has like
one of the many employees in
fact he's the founder and I look
you couldn't you can't find
anything if you go to their
website lamb ik the olympic.com
It's, it's it's still voted is
all that's missing is the guy
with a pick axe under
construction thing you know that
Adam Curry: way he has, he has
one link our product. Our
product is defense operating
system. It empowers partners to
prepare for leverage and respond
to information threats, Edge
scale at scale.
John C Dvorak: So you have to
look at the edge website does
not finished and realize that
this company started seven years
ago.
Adam Curry: And TSG. The Soufan
Center is one of their partners.
Of course, but stay tuned. Stay
tuned for an update to our site
soon.
John C Dvorak: Seven years have
gone by. I looked into this guy.
He's he does have a LinkedIn
page and it talks about how he
started this operation seven
years ago and he can't He's
seven years he can't do a
website. I mean, that's almost
as bad as us. Yeah, I don't want
to hear it. Almost back to
Unknown: to unpack what this
means and what we can do going
forward. I'm joined by two of
the experts behind these
findings. Colin Clark of the
Soufan center, and Zach's Witzke
of Olympic, Zach and Colin
thanks for joining Colin first
to millions. This
Adam Curry: is great. I cannot
believe that this got made it
onto PBS
John C Dvorak: or Canada Laura
Lopez woman she's this is her
old specialty. She's
Adam Curry: gullible. That's
what she's gullible.
John C Dvorak: I think so. Yeah.
Oh,
Adam Curry: and by the way, the
guy from the Soufan Center p
looks like Agent Smith. He's got
the He's got the whole skinny
black tie the whole thing going
on neck. Yeah, good luck.
Unknown: Thanks for joining,
Colin, first to you millions of
people across the world posts on
social media about news every
day all the time. Why should
people be alarmed about these
findings?
Well, I think there's a couple
of reasons and I'll give you two
in particular. One is the intent
behind the actors. These are
Russian and Chinese linked
actors that are seeking to
divide the United States. They
want to weaken the US and they
do that by driving debate on
divisive of topics. Also the
political environment that we're
currently in. The current
climate is highly partisan and
polarized. And so it's tailor
made for these types of
interventions. The second is
that they're pushing their own
narratives. They're attempting
to achieve their own objectives,
and doing so by spreading false
information that's now then gets
picked up by American citizens
and passed along.
And Zach, here's one example of
what you guys found. You point
to a Russian back bot at Peter
dabit. A gab account that's
posting dozens of times a day.
Adam Curry: Gab accounts
John C Dvorak: gab account
Unknown: Peter dabit a gab
account this posting dozens of
times a day, including this post
about Trump's quote, dodgy
indictment, explain what's
happening here.
Yeah, yeah, I think it's really
interesting to look at this
because it's really a symptom of
what we're seeing more broadly
that there's an authentic
activity. And this is a very
good example, because you see
the image that the profile is
uses from American media.
There's no biography seeing, you
know, I think 45,000 posts to
gab and a lot of what we're
seeing from this account in
particular, which is consistent
with a lot of the unauthentic
activity is posting or
retweeting from publications
like RT and platforms like VK.
Adam Curry: This, oh, my
goodness, this is pathetic. It
just is truly all that God has
gab. Gab is their main source of
information. I mean, by the way,
John C Dvorak: looked at gab for
three, four years I looked at
when it started, and that was
about it.
Adam Curry: I mean, I have
Soufan let me just see ya. So
they have their 2019 form 990
shows they get they had a
whopping $400,000 in income. No
578.
John C Dvorak: Really? Yeah.
Have you looked on their
webpage? They have about 50
people working there? Well make
it 10 grand a year?
Adam Curry: Well, let me see.
None of the none of the
directors are making any money.
Meredith Stricker, the executive
directors making $105,000. So
they must have spent it on
freelancers were also that where
else could it have gone?
Actually, I can probably tell
you what one was to the next
clip, while I'm taking a look at
that.
Unknown: And what was
interesting about this situation
is normally what we had seen, in
previous news cycles focused on
Trump was it was very positive
for the former president in this
case. And in this example, we
started to see state backed or
state affiliated accounts like
this one, sort of playing both
sides of the former President
of Russian state media, and this
has primarily been a Russian
playbook so far this information
warfare, or the Chinese getting
in on add a new element here.
They are the rough, you know,
this
Adam Curry: is I'm sorry, this
this reporter who is who I think
you and I agree, was a diversity
hire after Judy keeled over and
had to leave. But this is the
Dylan Mulvaney of PBS. This is
hurting PBS. Yes, this is
John C Dvorak: not hurting PBS
at the least. People are lapping
this up like there's no
tomorrow. She brings in sketchy
people to do interviews with I
don't know where what her
Rolodex looks like, but it's
terrible. And of course, she had
you pointed out I didn't realize
this that both the limbic and
the SU fan operation are
interconnected with the through
the back door nurse partners,
the partners, and both of them
are losers and phonies.
Adam Curry: So they spent, they
spent $346,000 on our other
salaries and compensation.
Outside of the right, we have to
actually deduct the 150 and 150
from it. So 200 grand, is just
people who sent a couple of
invoices. I don't know, I don't
know if this is just a website,
man. There's not much going on
here. Now that was 2019 because
they are woefully late on their
990 filings. But who cares? Who
cares? Who cares about
2020 2021 2022
John C Dvorak: You gotta
remember Lim big group. He
started that seven years ago
still hasn't finished the
website. Let's finish this. This
is the kind of sources she has
and brings on to PBS so everyone
can lap it up.
Unknown: I'm gonna pull the clip
back a bit and RT is that
Russian state media and Colin
This is primarily been a Russian
playbook so far this information
warfare or the Chinese getting
in on it a new element here
they are. The Russians are in
the lead and they do this for a
number of reasons. One, it's a
great return on investment for
them cost pennies on the dollar
compared to kind Have more
kinetic options, attempts to
build their own conventional
military. Why?
Adam Curry: don't convince
attempts to wait a minute? Let's
hear the end again, hold on
Unknown: compared to kind of
more kinetic options, attempts
to build their own conventional
military out. They don't have a
John C Dvorak: military I guess.
They use this they use bots,
chat bots, instead of building a
conventional military. It says
cheaper.
Adam Curry: That always reminds
me of that's what he said, Yes,
it's much cheaper because it
works. We also upped trumpet get
elected, it worked. This is good
stuff. I have hoped that Laura
Lopez has a long career at PBS
at all I
John C Dvorak: know it's gonna
be it's gonna be fruitful for
us. Yeah, we'll keep us in
Adam Curry: good graces for a
long, long time. Very nice.
John C Dvorak: So now he
continues to the Chinese are
taking a clue because why should
they spend money on the military
when this is cheaper,
Unknown: and China's noticing
they're seeing that it's
effective, that it's cheap. And
they're not only helping promote
Russian disinformation
narratives online, but they're
learning in the process. And so
they're honing their own skills
and an attempt to kind of copy
the Russian playbook as they
rolled out and use this in
tandem with a more aggressive
foreign policy.
And Zack, we saw Russia as I
just said, Do this in 2016.
Specifically, Senate
Intelligence found that in 26
happened,
Adam Curry: did you get it
something? Nope, let me hear.
Unknown: And Zack, we saw
Russia, as I just said, Do this
in 2016. It specifically
Adam Curry: was an edit
something went wrong there.
Either was hurt. She's sick, or
something like
Unknown: we saw Russia, as I
just said, Do this in 2016.
Specifically, Senate
Intelligence found that in 2016,
that Russia targeted African
Americans on social media to
create racial divisions. But
Adam Curry: Oh, hold on hold. I
just got to stop this clip here.
That was the joy read a dos a
Russian bots, which mo
completely destroyed that whole
lie. It was American descendants
of slavery, real people who were
tweeting, but we couldn't have
that. So Ben Joy read MSNBC
launched the Oh, no, that's,
that's Russian bots. And here it
is on your PBS state affiliated
media,
Unknown: Russia targeted African
Americans on social media to
create racial divisions. But now
some of these accounts appear
harder to attribute directly to
Russia. So how has this social
media? Well, again,
John C Dvorak: if there are now
how are they doing all this
attribution, if they're harder
to attribute? Do they have any
evidence of anything? They're
saying? I don't know. I'll play
the clip further. And we'll see
Unknown: fair evolved since
2016. Yeah,
that's a great question. If I
can take a step back just for a
second, the work we do at
Olympic really, first and
foremost focuses on are there
narratives related to a
particular issue like, you know,
this Trump indictment or the
election in 2016, that are
resonating with different
audiences across the country?
And if the answer to that is
yes, then we start asking, What
should we do about it? Who
should take that responsibility?
Where are these narratives
originating and who's amplifying
them? And one of the really
interesting things that we've
seen from 2016 to you know, now
in 2023, is, as you mentioned,
with that Senate Intelligence
Report, the Senate, you know,
was able to attribute 1000s of
artifacts back to Russia. And
what we're seeing now is a lot
of the what appears to be
Russian activity is actually
originating out of what we call
proxy countries, right? Where we
can attribute it to a country
like Nigeria, for example, where
it very much looks like a
Russian information operation,
but it's difficult to make that
direct connection from Nigeria
as the country of origin to
Russia, even though on the
surface on the surface, it
appears to be very much aligned
with Russia's interests as
John C Dvorak: a proxy country
is Nigeria. Yeah, kidding me.
Adam Curry: That's where the
hackers hangout. Nigeria is in
dire straits. Their money has
completely collapsed. No, but
you know, they like Bitcoin. So
maybe that'll come into play.
There wasn't there was a
interesting article in New
Scientist. Interesting from the
fact that they're so desperate,
they don't know what to say
anymore. Here's the the head the
title of the article, we don't
have any viable way of
countering conspiracy theories.
Now, of course, that would be
because their bullcrap or their
true beliefs and conspiracy
theories can damage societies
and individuals, but the only
effective ways to counter them
are impractical or According to
a review, or she they did at the
University College of Cork in
Ireland because Oh yeah. They
said that we've tried everything
to quash belief in conspiracy
theories. And the pre bunking
didn't work. Pre bunk. Yeah, the
pre bunking, you remember that?
We're gonna, we're gonna we're
gonna tell you something's not
true before. It's a conspiracy
theory. Oh, please. It is it is
intrigued bunking, I
John C Dvorak: forgot all about
free money.
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, when it
comes to war, an actual war and
conspiracy theories and war
mongering. And this is about
China because I don't know why
they're bringing in Russia.
That's old news lady. No one
cares about Russia. Now it's all
China. This is where all the
money is going. The military
industrial complex needs money,
money, money. I can't tell you
the whole story because I was
asked not to talk about other
than that. There are certain
parts that are manufactured in
the United States that go into
ICBMs. Bless you. And this
company, one of our producers
works there says there has been
an incredible increase in orders
for these, this particular part
for ICBMs. And he actually was
like, I'm worried about you
know, we're gonna have a nuclear
war and like, No, this is the
whole point. Move the money from
Russia, Ukraine. Now we got to
spend money on China, much
bigger threat China, and who's
leading the charge numero uno,
war monger Reno. Lindy Hop,
Lindsey Graham,
Unknown: here's what I think. I
think they're setting the stage
possibly for a blockade of
Taiwan, that the Communist
Chinese party is going to test
us dramatically this year and
next year before the election.
So in 1961, the Russians tried
to isolate.
Adam Curry: You see, the
Russians are the template that
they're no longer that there's
no longer the Russian plate.
Well, it is a Russian playbook,
actually, the Russian playbook
now done by the Chinese.
Unknown: So in 1961, the
Russians tried to isolate West
Berlin, so I'm fearful.
John C Dvorak: How many years
ago is that? 4640 years ago,
he's bringing up you know, back
during the Crimean War in the
1800s.
Adam Curry: He's comparing
Taiwan calendar he's comparing
Taiwan to a blockade of Berlin.
Yeah, Alrighty, then. That's so
comparable eight,
Unknown: West Berlin. So I'm
fearful that the Chinese may be
setting a conditions to blockade
Taiwan in the coming months, or
weeks. And we need to respond
forcefully if they do that. We
need to blockade all shipments
coming from the Middle East to
to China
Adam Curry: Hold on a second.
Does this sound like a good
idea? We now we need to not only
blockade Taiwan from the
blockade, but we have to
blockade oil shipments coming in
from the Middle East. You know,
the guys who don't give a crap
about us anymore? freely.
John C Dvorak: And they're not
going to they're going to run
this through pipelines anyway.
So blockade that, but here's the
thing I'm going to ask, does the
reporter then ask the question,
why don't we just blockade China
from shipping US goods? Just
blocked cages stopped a shipment
of Chinese goods into the United
States and will stop paying them
for the goods because we're not
getting them. We'll just do that
blockade. That seems to be that
would be very effective,
wouldn't it Lindsey?
Adam Curry: Well, first of all,
it's Fox News. So already
disqualified because they are
the war mongering network as
well as others. And second of
all, that doesn't help put money
into the military industrial
complex,
Unknown: West Berlin, so I'm
fearful that the Chinese may be
setting conditions to blockade
Taiwan in the coming months or
weeks. And we need to respond
forcefully if we need to
blockade all shipments coming
from the Mideast to China and
let them know if you blockade
Taiwan. We're gonna cut off your
oil. Oh, we need to train more
aggressively Taiwanese forces so
they can fight like Ukrainians.
Adam Curry: This is starting to
sound like Vietnam. We got to
train more aggressively.
Taiwanese forces. Do we then
center their death?
Unknown: We need to put nuclear
tipped missiles or nuclear
Adam Curry: justice tip just a
tip nuclear.
Unknown: Biden won't do it. The
military's asked for nuclear tip
cruise missiles to be put back
in submarines like that. rushes
Russians, did we need more
forces in the region? I think if
you do those things you could
deter a blockade.
It sounds though, like
a ratcheting up of the
situation. And if Taiwan is not
fully equipped, trained, armed,
ready for this right, right,
right. We don't want to be
leading to nobody.
Adam Curry: I believe it is
Shannon. Is that the question
you hoped she would ask? No, I
got I got to have Lindy Hop.
John C Dvorak: Question. I
suspect she would have I know it
was Shannon. Just that's the
hard hitting questions she would
ask
Adam Curry: back to Lady G.
Bring up the
Unknown: situation. And if
Taiwan is not fully equipped,
trained, armed, ready for this?
We don't want to be leading to
war worth rate. Well,
nobody wants to world war three.
But yes, you do. What kind of
world do you want to live in? Do
you want to live in a world
where a an island called Taiwan
could be taken by China? 90% of
the high end chips are made in
Taiwan, they'd have a monopoly
on the digital economy.
Adam Curry: Oh, and they would
run circles around us? Who are
they going to sell to
themselves? Look, everybody, we
got AI in every house. Democracy
we need to spread democracy.
Unknown: I want that to have a
monopoly on the digital economy.
Do you just want to let Putin
take whatever he wants in your
wait a minute, I want that to
have a monopoly on the digital
economy. Do you just want to let
Putin take whatever he wants in
Europe? I don't live in that
kind of world. Wait a minute,
John C Dvorak: I don't
understand. I'm config whatever
he wants. What is he taken so
far?
Adam Curry: I'm confused,
though. China's going to going
to have a monopoly on the
digital economy, apparently, and
Putin can take whatever he wants
come
Unknown: on a 90% of the high
end chips are made in Taiwan
that have a monopoly on the
digital economy. Do you just
want to let Putin take whatever
he wants in Europe? I don't live
in that kind of world. There's
no reason for this. Listen, I
believe in a One China policy.
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, we
agree. There's no reason for
what you're saying Lindsey wants
in Europe,
Unknown: I don't live in that
kind of world. There's what a
horrible war
Adam Curry: where China owns the
digital economy. And Putin takes
whatever he wants. Come on, man.
It's and Shannon's going, Oh,
Unknown: take whatever he wants
in Europe. I don't live in that
kind of world. There's no reason
for this. Listen, I believe in a
One China policy, but I would be
willing,
Adam Curry: wait a minute. Then
he says listen, I believe in a
One China policy. Isn't the One
China policy that includes
Taiwan. Yep. So how can you say
all this and then say, Listen, I
believe in a One China policy is
Unknown: your low economy? Do
you just want to let Putin take
whatever he wants in Europe? I
don't live in that kind of
world. There's no reason for
this. Listen, I believe in a One
China policy, but I would be
willing to fight for Taiwan.
Adam Curry: All right, hold on.
boots on Lindsey. You first
Okay. Lady G leaves the pack.
Unknown: Listen, I believe in a
One China policy, but I would be
willing to fight for Taiwan.
Because Taiwan is a democracy.
We stood with him for decades.
So Tom wants to explain.
John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
when the after the Communist
revolution in China, which had
actually kicked out the the
quasi democratic revolution,
which is the Republic of China,
the Chinese Communist, drove
them out and drove them to the
island of Taiwan, where Chiang
Kai Shek, who was the leader of
the mainland, and then he was
then became the leader of this
this island where they were they
ended up fleeing to we recognize
we never recognize the mainland
Chinese. No, of course not. And
so it was always the Republic of
China, China was, as far as we,
as a country was concerned, was
done was the choice China. So in
the UN, it was the Republic of
China that ret was represented
as China. And we kept that going
until the Nixon administration.
And when and, and they all of a
sudden, we said, Well, wait a
minute. We're gonna recognize
the big boys, the People's
Republic of China, they just
dropped the ball kicked the
Republic of China, which is
Taiwan to the curb. And it was
something that Reagan was
bitching and moaning about when
he when he ran for president in
1980. I actually have a clip in
the archives, which will never
find no reason to look for it.
Where he kind of explained the
whole thing on the Johnny Carson
Show.
Adam Curry: And you're saying
we'll never find that? Probably
right.
John C Dvorak: It would be under
Reagan.
Adam Curry: Reagan, Reagan Coast
Guard, or burning in hell no, I
don't think so. I will continue
with Lindsey
Unknown: take whatever he wants
in Europe. I don't live in that
kind of world. There's no reason
for this. Listen, I believe in a
One China policy, but I would be
willing to fight for Taiwan,
because Taiwan Want us to
democracy? We stood with him for
decades. So Tom was not the
problem Lindsey Graham's not the
problem is Fenton in his sheet.
Yeah. So what would I do to
deter a blockade? I'd let the
Chinese the fact
Adam Curry: that he even says
that means that he's thinking
man, people must think I'm at
the problem here. Yes, you are.
You are warmonger, a horrible
man, Taiwan.
Unknown: Because Taiwan is a
democracy. We stood with him for
decades. So Tom was not the
problem Lindsey Graham's not the
problem is Putin in his sheet.
So what would I do to deter a
blockade? I'd let the Chinese
know if you block a Taiwan,
you're going to have a hard time
getting off from the Mideast. I
would increase training and give
the F 16. They needed. In
Taiwan, there's a backlog I was
back. That's
Adam Curry: why we couldn't send
them to Ukraine. We couldn't
send them to Ukraine. Why can't
we send them because we need
them for the military industrial
complex bull crap in Taiwan,
Unknown: you blockade Taiwan,
you're gonna have a hard time
getting off from the Mideast
would increase training and give
the F 16 as they needed. In
Taiwan, there's a backlog I
would solve that backlog. I
would move more forces to South
Korea and Japan. I would put
nuclear tipped cruise missiles
and all of our submarines all
over the world like the Russians
did when they got out of the
nuclear treaty and started using
cruise missiles nuclear tip
that's what Reagan did in the
Cold War so I would up our game
and if you don't up your game
now you're gonna have a war.
Adam Curry: Vote this guy out
whenever you can. This guy
impeach this guy. He's
John C Dvorak: the guy is like
stuck in office. Where's he
from? South Carolina doesn't
know what to do with him. Bolus
vote him in again.
Adam Curry: Dame Jennifer,
you're you're in charge. You're
your protector in South
Carolina. I'm looking at you.
You got to do you got to impeach
this guy? Just because
John C Dvorak: the other thing
is he gets a lot of fund funding
from guess which sector of the
economy
Adam Curry: technology sector
I'm just guessing. Military
Industrial Complex sector. There
you go. Yeah, that would make
sense. Wow. It's just It's
unbelievable. And they just and
Shannon. You know, this is where
I pray AI becomes real. Take
over Shannon's job, please.
Anything but But what she's
doing to no good.
John C Dvorak: People are no
good. She's birdie.
Adam Curry: I want to talk about
China for a second. In
particular about the icon. I
don't know about you. But I had
a lot of feedback on our
discussion about the Maoist,
cultural way and people loved
the Maoist discussion. They love
it. And someone sent me a clip
from the Joe Rogan show from
last year from this guy, James
Lindsay. And James Lindsay is
he's an author and he wrote the
book issue where it is James
Lindsay, race, Marxism the truth
about critical race theory. And
it's just just a short clip. And
I think he nails it. He it's in
this in this like minute and a
half. He completely tells us
what's going on what the Genesis
is. And of course, you know,
we're now being distracted by,
you know, men cross dressing as
women. And just to be sure, of
course, there's some people who
actually have body dysmorphia or
body dysphoria, of course, that
exists, but not to this degree.
All right, there's no way it's
to this degree. And while we're
all looking at men pretending to
be women, and that is truly what
Dylan Mulvaney is doing. It's
80% of the girls, who are trans
gendering two boys. That's
what's happening in the
background. Now listen to what
he says, and how this started.
And I think we were aware of
this, and we called it but we
didn't realize how destructive
it truly was, from the
Unknown: Marxist perspective,
having studied the history of
Marxism to 20th century, I'm
telling you, this guy, George
Lucado, in Hungary laid this
plan out because if you get
these kids like, you break down
their innocence sexually,
especially what you can do is
and you're gonna they're gonna
go home, and they're going to
tell their parents that there's
some like lip romantic, you
know, demisexual, you know, tree
tree self gender, or some, you
know, pronouns tree tree self or
something that some in the
parents can be like, what you
know, and they can be like, Mom,
you just don't understand, you
know, so the separate the, the
younger generation from the
older generations, you get them
to break away and think that
they're old fogies, that they're
repressive. You don't want me to
be my true self, etc. The goal
is actually to destabilize the
kids identity so that they're
gurrumul. That's identity
without an essence and queer
theory. And then they're
grievable. You groom them into
the stuff and then they look at
their parents culture, they look
at their parents themselves.
They look at their parents
generation, they look at the
parents religion, and they say,
that doesn't represent me, we
need something completely
different. So it's to set it's
to, just like in Mao's Cultural
Revolution, and I mean that much
more literally, than then you
might suspect. It's to cut the
tie between the continuity of
culture up to that point,
including the family and to
start a whole new culture You're
afterwards in Pol Pot called a
year zero, I guess Klaus Schwab
calls it a great reset. But the
goal is to separate the new
generation from the traditions
and views of the old generation
from now it was to destroy the
so called for old, old culture,
old habits, old customs and old
ways of thinking Sergio and
Mandarin. And these kids would
get like hopped up on this crap
became the Red Guard and like
would go into temples and like
rip down all the statuary and
tear things down and destroy all
the old old, all the old kung fu
masters got their asses beat by
mobs to get rid of like old
Chinese culture because it's
embarrassing or whatever. You
know, there's all in Chinese
medicine, of course, and you can
say, well, that's total
bullshit, you probably need it,
but doesn't matter who's like
destroy the old culture and they
would go home, they eventually
get to where they're beating
their parents or beating their
teachers that were considered
revolutionaries, or sorry,
reactionaries, instead of being
in favor of the Chinese Cultural
Revolution. And Mao had whole
programming used in schools, and
I see something so similar to
that in our schools now that I'm
freaking out. It's yeah,
Adam Curry: this is exactly what
we're seeing. Yeah, I agree. And
starting with pronouns,
John C Dvorak: starts with the
pronouns. And it brings me to,
you know, at some point, starts
to kind of go over the top, I
have a tick tock clip.
Adam Curry: Oh, shoot, hold on a
sec. I was not prepared. When
you have a tick tock clip, we
gotta have our jingle. Okay.
Tock, tock, tick tock doesn't
need setup, or can we go
straight into it?
John C Dvorak: I don't think it
needs to set up. We could talk
about it after you play it. But
here is what's really this is
the DS that could be lack of
control by the state of what's
going on. As opposed to what
happened during the Maoist
counter revolution revolution, I
guess Cultural Revolution
results in in this meet the
mania, where the true insanity
starts to leak through and you
end up with this.
Unknown: Y'all really want to
try to say there aren't trans
kids. Let me tell you what there
aren't there aren't sis kids,
okay, you telling your child Oh,
you're a boy. You're a girl.
This is a child. This is a free
spirit that has not learned any
of that bullshit and so you
force it on them. So sickness is
the wound sickness is the
delusion sickness is the lie
sickness is the place of pain
transmis is the healing transit
This is the growth transit This
is the truth. Transit this is
what we actually are we are
fluid we are 70% water we are
God God is changed. God is
trans. You're trans. You are
forcing your kids to be boys and
girls. We're saying be whatever
you are baby, be free. Be water
be light. Be sky be God because
guess what? That's what we
actually are. What we actually
are is trans is change is love.
We're not the ones doing the
forcing.
Adam Curry: You God is trans.
Oh, that's a new one.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh, that's
gonna be you're gonna hear that
more. And
Adam Curry: does this. Oh, yeah.
And does this. This man. I
presume it's a man. Does he have
children? Of course not. So this
this is exactly the meme that is
being propagated by Hollywood.
Here's a clip of Daniel
Radcliffe, very successful actor
in a very limited role. He is
Harry Potter. He is Harry
Potter. Everyone sees him and he
is Harry Potter. And he is doing
I sit down with a group of trans
kids, young trans kids. And he
is propagating this. This Bly. I
learned
Unknown: from you know, out of
the cradle that I am, you know
that I was a boy, I should like
blue. I should like sports. I
should be manly. I should like
superheroes. Yeah. And I just I
never associate myself with
those things. And we are told
that we're not old enough to
know to know this yet. Like, I
mean, I'm only 11 years old. How
do I know I'm a girl. And I need
more time to think about this.
But there are also people who do
have like a slightly
condescending, but well meaning
attitude of like, well, deeply
young, and like how do we you
know, that is a huge decision.
I'd love to hear from all of you
about like, why we can trust
kids to like, tell us who they
are. This was it.
John C Dvorak: I know. You gotta
go the same thing that this
other guy
Adam Curry: was saying yes to
trust because you can trust your
child. They're telling you who
they are. Remember, your son
would be an actual transhumanist
robot if you trusted him and
allowed him to continue the
nonsense or if he hadn't snapped
out of it. And it hadn't been
propagated and encouraged by the
parents who just like the mom
was revolution template. have
been led to believe that Oh,
okay. I am an old fogy. This is
just the new thing. This is of
course this is how Oh, how it
works these days, what do I
know? There's books, there's
people in lab coats telling me
my child doesn't have issues
because of social media. And
just because my child is a girl
in middle school and goes
through tough times, because
that's
John C Dvorak: what I used to be
ridiculed by mean, girls.
Adam Curry: That's right. You
know, it's not like that doesn't
have that. No, no, that's all
because you are in the wrong
body. And I have received so
many messages from teachers, by
the way, most of these teachers
now women, and here's how it
goes. A trans kid is put into
your class. Now, the last thing
you're going to do is say,
what's going on with this? No,
no, no, no, no, you can't do
that. Because you will be kicked
out the school system, which you
can't leave, because then you
lose your pension. Even if you
want to go to do like a charter
school. And then the teacher is
asked to report back how the
child's behavior is all the
children's behavior. And what
they wind up becoming is a
feedback loop for the therapist
and the doctor by saying, well,
Johnny, I mean, I'm sorry, Annie
was acting up a bit today. So
maybe you need to adjust Annie's
meds. And that's the destructive
part. So it's, it's the
antidepressant, it's the math.
And then it's the transgender
hormones, which and again, I'm
telling you, we're missing the
important part, which is 80%. of
transgender children are girls,
but we're all looking at the
boys. Oh, in sports, all that?
Yes. While that is also an
issue. That's not the people who
are going to kill you. We're
going to come home and knife mom
and dad back. Well, the teacher
John C Dvorak: that could hit
yes, that's going to be
happening a lot in the future,
we have to also understand
something called social and
emotional learning which show
Adam Curry: Oh, my goodness, you
found the same thing I did.
John C Dvorak: Well, we've
talked about this before,
because I've I've been on the
mailing list I've been on for a
number of years for castle, the
guys behind it.
Adam Curry: Yes. And you know,
it's just some some lady who was
English as a Second Language
teacher but consultant for the
in 2017. And decided to set up
this K S ELC as ACCA SEL, which
is a part of G M. Oh, yeah. It's
crazy. All this stuff that comes
into play all these acronyms.
John C Dvorak: And they've come
up with this idea that is more
important than they literally
say more important, and to teach
social and emotional learning,
as they call it, then reading
and writing and arithmetic. Yep.
They say this is much more
important, and you'll get better
grades and get better scores.
And we have proof now and I've
seen no proof whatsoever. And
all I see is news reports about
how the American student is
being is being dumbed down. He's
dumber than ever. Because they
know it seems you are teaching
them emotional and social
learning. This is more
important. Social justice is
more important than math. Yes.
That's when you get a test score
show that we're just we're
creating a bunch of dumb shits,
and this but they claim no, no,
no, we're not as crisp making
every school where this has been
implemented according to Castle,
the scores have improved.
Adam Curry: So so I've looked
into this, I have a lot of links
in the show notes. And I want to
because my question, what is
sel? And so I find a website and
official website what is SEL
social emotional learning
defined and explained. So just
tell me if you understand this
definition. To fully understand
social emotional learning, it is
useful to begin with a clear
definition. Sel is the vital
framework through which people
of all ages acquire skills in
working towards their own unique
goals, comprehending and
managing their emotions,
nurturing positive
relationships, making informed
choices, and feeling and
exhibiting empathy. Learning SEL
provides students and young
people with the abilities
required to succeed in life,
both within their school and
beyond. What does that mean?
John C Dvorak: It means vote
Democrat.
Adam Curry: Well, of course,
what is happening now and when
you just have to hear this
because now you're going to hear
the outrage and the anger from
older people, adults, some
teachers have some, some parents
who were missing what is really
going on here. And this is the
the Kentucky laws that were
passed, which were not safety
for children or safety for
parents and teachers being
knifed by radicalized children.
No, this is anti trans
legislation
Unknown: or the Kentucky General
Assembly passing a sweeping anti
trans bill. The WHS COVID-19 was
different Waiting for the vote
tonight. The bill bans gender
affirming medical care for
minors allows teachers to ignore
a student's preferred pronouns
and trans students from using
the restroom tied to their
gender identities. WHS lovin
nine teams Connor Steph and
photo journalists alive so
Adam Curry: bless you. Let's
just pause for a second that
seems like some kind of logical
logical legislation doesn't seem
out of the ordinary for minors
not to be be put on to
John C Dvorak: almost all the
acid suppose in in the media is
responsible for this bull crap.
Anti trans legislation typically
involves no you know, trans
promotion of little kids. No
brainwashing of little kids no
books about In fact, I read some
some of the other day was going
on all that Republicans. Yeah,
it was Charles Barkley on his on
his MBA and the Republicans are
banning every
Adam Curry: book they can ban.
They're burning books. They're
Nazis,
John C Dvorak: which I thought
was a pourraient and bigoted of
him. And so no, no pornographic
material for second graders. No
trans propaganda in the
classroom. And whoa, trans.
Adam Curry: One of our knights
John, one of our knights,
contacts me, he says, my 15 year
old girl wants to transition to
a boy 15 one of her friends just
had top surgery and now she
wants that to 15 and what what
has been happening across and by
the way, Europe has stopped this
Europe is stopping it they see
that it's bad and dangerous.
John C Dvorak: Every only this
is the thing that we have to we
we bring it up but we don't harp
on it. Yeah, we got this is only
in the United States. Why?
Adam Curry: Exactly. And when
you hear that can Planned
Parenthood as a part of this
Planned Parenthood, you can walk
right in and walk right out as a
girl with on testosterone to
start medically transitioning.
John C Dvorak: Meanwhile, I
can't walk right in and get some
testosterone to give me a little
more energy. Really Welcome to
Planned Parenthood and say, Hey,
I wasn't every testosterone.
Give us a couple of WHO CARES my
testosterone I can use I'm
getting old
Unknown: team was there in
Frankfurt for the vote tonight.
The bill bans gender affirming
medical care for minors, gender
affirming
Adam Curry: medical care, okay,
that is testosterone that is
hormones that are not meant for
your body that is the beginning
of a lifelong as we've learned a
life long sentence of medication
that's fighting against your own
body. Whether you agree with the
trans issues or not that you are
going to be on on medicine
forever. And girls, you know,
this testosterone is
destructive. It sterilizes them
ultimately, it makes their
vaginal wall so thin that it's
destroyed. I mean, it's
horrible. Go watch affirmation
generation, and which is made by
Democrats, progressive
Democrats, that's what they call
themselves. It's right. They say
it. They're the ones that are
saying no, no, no, this is wrong
and over 80% D transition
percentage, we have to stop
this. But when you hear what's
going on here, the same means
that we've talked about in
previous episode that is
perpetuating this medical, it's
real it should be it needs to be
illegal. You can't do this to
children
Unknown: allows teachers to
ignore a student's preferred
pronouns
Adam Curry: very important,
right that we just heard. That
is key. That is key in the Mao's
Cultural Revolution templates
Unknown: and trans students from
using the restroom tied to their
gender identities and that's
Adam Curry: what Obama started
remember, but black America went
yeah second term Okay, now is
Brock's gonna do it for us and
what did they get gender neutral
bathrooms? Yeah,
Unknown: good work eslava nine
teams Connor Steph and
photojournalist Elijah McKenzie
have the emotional reaction.
Despite the desperate cries
and scared
No
impassioned pleas dare you.
You're gonna kill kids. Blood
will be on your hands.
Kentucky GOP lawmakers succeed
in getting anti trans
legislation to the governor's
desk where it's expected to be
vetoed shame on you.
Thank you for your time, man. I
am honest to God so embarrassed,
ashamed. And for the first time
in my life. I wish I was not a
Kentucky and
it's hard to put into words just
how fast moving this bill was
during a surprise Senate
Education In committee vote
Republican Senator Max wise and
Representative David Mead
blindsided everyone reviving
what was thought to be a dead
Senate Bill 150.
John C Dvorak: There's evidence
that this is and that's our job
is to protect children. And
that's what we're doing here.
Unknown: The new expanded
version includes far reaching
measures, it would have school
districts create explicit
bathroom policies forcing trans
students to abide by their
biological sex. It also bans
gender affirming care for anyone
in Kentucky under the age of 18.
Good solid, solid, suppose
surgical procedures and non
surgical procedures. We
are attacking a group of
vulnerable people as we're
calling late meetings, and
sneaking bills in this is not
good government.
The director of Planned
Parenthood told me this bill is
the farthest reaching anti trans
legislation in the entire
country. Supporters say it backs
parental rights
watch the committee or were in
the committee, you would have
seen the testimony from certain
doctors and certain mental
health professionals. So yes,
there were some consultants but
opponents believe it will lead
young queer Kentuckians to leave
the state or worse,
please
think about a kid that, you
know, think about how you would
feel if a kid you couldn't get
access to medical care, and they
came home, and you found them
that the General Assembly will
have time to override any
vetoes, lawmakers returned for
that in two weeks.
Adam Curry: And that's that's
the mean, it's like, you know,
it's would you rather have a
live daughter or a dead son or
vice versa. And to say, imagine
a child can't get medical care,
it's not medical care. These you
know, you can spell therapists
two ways therapist or the
rapist. And that's what's going
on this, it's and then even we
had some friends over there
younger than we are the, you
know, the early 40s. They have
three boys in Austin. They go to
a Christian school, I think it's
a private school, and what are
they learning? Social emotional
learning skills. So if you want
to do you want to check that you
want to make sure you know
what's going on with that?
Because at that
John C Dvorak: Christian school,
their teaching?
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Exactly.
In Austin, you know, it
John C Dvorak: doesn't take much
you get because the pitches are
so good. There's a sales pitch
involved in all this stuff by
using certain words and terms
like anti trans legislation.
Yep. When it could have been
rewarded as Pro Child
legislation or something like
that
Adam Curry: pro not medicating
your kid on all kinds of stuff
that's pro not
John C Dvorak: kill. Yeah. I
mean, there's different ways to
do and stuff. And so you get one
or two of these activists, these
Maoists. And that's the real
thing that has to be done, we
have to somehow get back to the
to the mentality where we're
investigating this as a, as a
cultural revolution that is
being is being promoted on the
American public and they're
going to use the children to do
it in a mouse a tongue style and
has to be stopped and luckily
didn't go well. I'm just saying
Luckily, the top people running
the country are not behind it
necessary. I mean, there's maybe
they're in there. They're all
over the place these verses but
they have to be routed out.
Adam Curry: And that in your
this, the Cultural Revolution
was what? 1958?
John C Dvorak: No, no, it was in
the 60s, I believe. Okay, so not
that long ago, a little red
book, The Little Red Book,
Adam Curry: not that long ago
that this happened and children
killed, beat their teachers up
beat their parents up. Okay, so
then this, obviously, this is
not the way to do it. This is
from MSNBC representative named
Webster Barnaby just yesterday,
Unknown: to all the folks that
are in the audience that
consider themselves. Gender
Dysphoria says, I don't know
what all that means. I really
don't know what all that means.
I'm looking at society today.
And it's like I'm watching an X
Men movie. It's like we have
mutants living among us on
planet Earth. The Lord rebuke
you, Satan. All of your demons,
all of your EMPs who come and
parade before us? That's right,
I called you demons and EMPs
that's some crazy stuff right
there.
Adam Curry: So that's not the
way to do this. But even one of
our own no agenda social. You
know, the guy who was going off
on us about something you said
about you know, don't teach
second graders sexual
homosexuality or sexuality,
whatever it was, and, and what I
ultimately got on email because
I'm trying to calm the guy down.
I was like, hey, you know, chill
out, you know, we will. No
agenda nation is filled with all
kinds of people. gay, straight,
lesbian, bisexual, trans Sure,
actual trans people who had real
real gender dysphoria and some
who bought into it and are sorry
that they went down that path.
We read a note two shows ago,
we, we I don't think you and I
actually care what people adult
people do with their life, their
body, etc. As long as they
donate, let's be honest about
it. But this poor guy has gone
off the rails and what do I get?
Ever since you became a
Christian, you have your mental
acuity has declined. I mean,
this is the conversation that's
going funny, you're gonna
destroy stuff, this is not the
way to go is not the way to go.
John C Dvorak: So ever since I'm
gonna start using that, oh, you
will feel free. Ever since you
became a Christian, you've been
a dick.
Adam Curry: As our opening
openings, yes, I'm gonna get to
saving that for an ISO. But
seriously, this is. I think
you're right. What we need to
keep harping on is why is it
that Finland, Sweden, the
Netherlands, France, all the UK,
countries who pioneered
transitioning for children
pioneered it? Why are they all
stopping? And why are you not
hearing about that? And only in
America? Does this continue?
This is the threat, not Lindsey
Graham's ICBMs. This is the
threat and it's a real threat.
You start, I think there should
be in the analysis transition
for a second to coin a phrase.
Companies that use pronouns are
part of the problem. It's part
of the problem, the pronouns,
your your corporation has been
hoodwinked into a Maoist
template. That I mean, I didn't
quite put it all together until
I heard that that James, James,
Lindsey get Lindsey guy, because
what I always saw was, No, Mom,
no, Dad, it's they and you're
right. That's what breaks that
bond between it puts the child
above the parent and that's the
beginning of it. So the pronouns
aren't literally ground zero and
the real problem and that's how
you get someone like the VP of
Bud Light, who was so
brainwashed, went to Harvard, by
the way got a coveted internship
at General Mills. Me I went
through the Fast Track becomes
VP of Bud Light. Interesting, by
the way, how I love it when
people send me clips that we
literally played on the on the
show. Now the whole world is
like a week ago, or like in
Jamaica, we completely
deconstructed Fifi llegaron
fueler. Hey man, look at this. A
cbdc coming in October. Yeah,
thanks. Thanks for listening. By
the way, I understand. It's hard
to listen to every single show.
But if you're gonna
John C Dvorak: listen to the
whole show, a lot of people
can't do it. That's true. That's
true. We're educating the truck
drivers of America.
Adam Curry: So now this is
interesting, what's happening.
And there's a lot of interesting
analysis popping up about Dylan
Mulvaney been I am pretty sure
that and I actually fear for
this young man's life because
this was the role of his
lifetime. You know, he had when
COVID head he was already kind
of like a bit player couldn't
really get acting jobs created
this character. And then it just
got picked up. And then before
he knew it, he was in front of
the president. That was the
launching pad. Thank you Jen
Psaki for falling for that
bullcrap. Or perhaps doing it
purposefully. And that and by
the way, I was right, because
there is now Budweiser. Anheuser
Busch is saying, Well, you know,
this was not approved by anyone
in a senior position. We are
reevaluate, reevaluating our
influencer program. This was not
a paid spokesmodel ship, which
was an influential program that
I could have participated in
well, with the right hash tag,
and I could have maybe gotten a
little bit of money. If I sent
enough people to the Budweiser
website. It was not a
spokesmodel. But that ship has
sailed. And now we have the
blowback and what I find the
most interesting is that the
headlines are Anheuser Busch
loses $5 billion. Now, that's
not true. But that's the
headline. And I will say, when
they say that, that's because
the stock price went down a buck
and a half. That's not losing
any that's not less that's
losing market cap value.
However, when you look at the
chart, you'll see that the
Anheuser Busch stock started to
spike up on March 15. I mean, it
just starts to spike and it went
from I have it here. Excuse me.
It went from where it was it
here 59 91 to a high of 6657
first week of April, and then
the stock starts to go down. And
we're now currently at 6434. So
it lost a couple of dollars. But
it's not like it was a horrible
loss of money is flowing out.
But it doesn't matter because
the meme is out there and people
are repeating it because they
don't know how it works. That's
kind of a good thing. What's
interesting is why did this
stock start to spike on the 15th
Because on the 15th, Anheuser
Busch InBev won the
unprecedented back to back
creative marketer of the Year
Award at the lions it's it's
doubly hilarious. This is the
big con Awards, where the
advertising industry all jerks
each other off. So this was I
presume this was taken as a big
win. Oh my God, these guys know
what they're doing. And now this
influencer thing blows up in
their face. Now will will this
make a difference? Will other
corporations take note? I think
definitely they're going to take
a good look at their influencer
campaigns. It's entirely
possible that this takes off
like crazy and Bud Light becomes
a massive bestseller. I don't
know it's
John C Dvorak: already the
number one beard can't get any
better. And it's pushing this
look at that.
Adam Curry: So now we have the
next one on Deck is Jack
Daniels, who created a campaign
for Ru Paul's drag race. That
the only way any any one wins
with any of this if you if you
want to go after corporations,
and I would say go after them
for using pronouns because you
know that's ground zero of the
dangerous stuff. Don't buy their
products. That's the That's the
real question. Can America leave
its shitty products behind the
stuff that you absolutely don't
need at all? You don't need to
buy it. You don't need to have
it. You don't need to drink it.
You don't need to eat it. Can we
do that? I doubt it.
John C Dvorak: I think you can
if enough people decide to but
you know I don't know how many
people that drink Bud Light are
even aware of Dylan Mulvaney or
any of this?
Adam Curry: Well, the doom of
anything. I think that that has
legs drown that
John C Dvorak: you may or may
not all I know is that people
that drink Bud Light. Most of
them don't, but I'd say are
unaware. And if you did, and you
were aware, it's not that hard
to switch. I mean, I've gotten
into arguments over the decades
about beer flavors, and you will
have people say I could spot a
Coors in a pile of Bud you know,
I don't know if you can. Yeah,
these beers all have a similar
quality Bud Light is I mean
drinking drink Budweiser, you
can drink Miller Lite, you can
drink Michelob light you mean
whatever. Or have a you know
something a little more
substantial, you know, some real
beer and IPA or something from a
decent Brewer, small Brewer. But
I you know, Nikes not the best
shoe out there. No, or sports
bra for all I know.
Adam Curry: Well, when you if
maybe if you wear a Nike sports
bra, you will get some
testosterone from from Planned
Parenthood
John C Dvorak: for me? I don't
think so. And it was the other
brands that are risking it. I
mean, while Daniels is taking a
chance here, it's just dumb.
Adam Curry: Well, so if you look
at the AMA, the Association for
national advertisers, they are
they are pushing this gem score.
A gem is the first data driven
mythology for identifying gender
bias in media. And this is
mainly about women. But of
course, what's a woman right? We
don't know anymore. And they
claim ads with positive gems
score. So this is very much like
an ESG score. It's a gem score,
drives purchase intent by 42%
amongst total and all female
customers, higher gym scores
equally 56% increase increase in
bank brand reputation and
positive ROI tied to high gym
scores increased sales by two to
5x.
John C Dvorak: Well give us an
example of a high gem score ad
Do they have any in there?
Adam Curry: They do have. Let's
see. see her in action. Let's
see. I wish I had that because
they don't solicit information.
They don't have they don't seem
to have these. Okay? So they say
Citibank and Sheryl Crow are
lifting up women in the music
industry. They have all these
campaigns but they don't
actually show the pure results.
But if you look at and this is
tied to be
John C Dvorak: bold crap, well,
it's saying this stuff is true
doesn't mean it's true if you
don't have literal examples. I
mean, this reminds me of that I
have a clip about musk, you
know, going after the BBC about
Yeah, exactly, exactly. I heard
that commentary I we can play
later. But well here without
buying their thesis what what
publication is this? Well, I
Adam Curry: have the ads. But I
don't know what they don't give
you is the actual results. So
here's Unilever, Unilever. Let
me see. Is that a good one? Oh,
Ford. Let's see Ford built Ford
proud. This is, this is what I'm
seeing here. There's always
these butterflies. This is a
black woman in a racing car with
a racing helmet. That as soon as
I put my foot
Unknown: on the throttle, all of
the nervousness just goes away.
A lot of people say listen,
drivers are Daredevil. She's
Adam Curry: a stunt driver. De
Bryant. i Well, they're showing
a badass woman who cares what
color she who cares? It's a
woman. I don't think that's a
great example house for doing by
the way. They've not good. Do
they have two to 5x sales?
John C Dvorak: Today? I can
tell. So,
Adam Curry: but all the women
who are mainly women, and this
is trying to this is tied to
global citizen.
John C Dvorak: Well, if they're
gonna go with women, you know,
you have to assume that if
they're going to push the score,
and then women are they'll just
trans have to be brought in
eventually. Exactly.
Adam Curry: That's what's going
on here. That's what's going on.
And I'm not so sure that they're
and they have examples of that.
And by the way, if you look at
the be who we are, you know who
we are, who we are, the
leadership. They've got the
coach Fiona Carter, Chief
Marketing Officer, Goldman
Sachs, Mark Pritchard, Chief
Brand Officer, Procter and
Gamble, Patty Kerr, co founder
Executive Advisory
John C Dvorak: amid these the
people that are pushing the gym
score. Yeah, they're all women
pushing to all this average
stuff, more stuff for us. Okay,
well, now we know it's just a
fraud and
Adam Curry: every single one of
these pictures, glamour shots,
because that's what real women
look like. Sure, you got the the
nice fuzzy background, the
professional makeup, the good
lighting, these are not selfies.
It's not what real women look
like in real life. And that's
also just
John C Dvorak: set guard putting
you and me putting some sort of
Operation together and then
promote podcasting?
Adam Curry: Well, yes. And I
think we should consider that
because you know, after this
episode, we are totally the
transphobic old dudes. To DS the
top.
John C Dvorak: We're not
transphobic we're just bringing
it we're anti communist,
Adam Curry: correct anti war
anti communist. Now let's let's
add race. Can
John C Dvorak: that be bad?
Adam Curry: Let's add racist to
it. I have two clips that are
that should be mentioned because
our poor black brothers and
sisters have been pushed to the
background. You don't count
anymore. It's all trends. Now.
Here's Susan Rice. Speaking at
Al Sharpton National Action
Network, listen carefully.
Unknown: In the last 20 years,
the US had a GDP shortfall of
$16 trillion due to
discrimination against black
Americans. If we closed our
racial gaps, we could add
another $5 trillion to GDP over
just the next five years. And in
case you're wondering, that's
not my math. That's according to
Citibank. Yeah.
Adam Curry: $16 trillion because
of racism.
John C Dvorak: Oh, brother, I
want to see the Citibank report.
Adam Curry: I didn't look it up.
I figured it wasn't worth
looking at.
John C Dvorak: It's probably not
but I still like to see it.
Adam Curry: Now. The second
short, short short clips. We all
saw the the near insurrection at
the Tennessee State House and
the of course complete racist
rejection of only the black two
dudes and not the white lady.
John C Dvorak: Although everyone
voted to get here out to a set
one person that's the
difference.
Adam Curry: Now who was that?
John C Dvorak: While one
Republican had said well, since
she didn't do some one thing, he
wasn't going to give it the vote
to kick her out. So she got
stayed in. But it was It wasn't
like it was a unanimous by any
means. But that was a good bit.
If I if I was on the other side
of the fence, I'd be playing it
the same way.
Adam Curry: So Justin J. Pearson
is one of the two Tennessee
lawmakers who was rejected and
thrown right out of of his
position. Here's a video when he
was running for that. And he was
only in there for a week. Here's
a video of when he was running
for that seat Dustin
Unknown: J. Pearson. And I'm
running for president of PSG.
There are a few reasons that
we're running this campaign
this, you know, hold
John C Dvorak: on a second. I
know where he got this to. He
this is when he was a student in
college. Yes. Correct. Running
for the student government.
Correct. Not for the position
that he got kicked out.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I didn't
mean to sound confused and
correct. This is just him a
while ago,
John C Dvorak: this is him a
lot. Yeah, not too long ago, his
normal self or at least the way
he portrayed himself. This is
actually quite, I wish I had
made these clips. But
Unknown: with representation,
how can we represent all voices
in a conversation? I wanted to
do this by partnering with
organizations from the booty
Democrats, to the Boone
Republicans, I want to bring
together different voices,
dissenting voices, voices that
maybe more liberal or more
conservative, in order that we
can reach a point of sort of the
radical middle.
Adam Curry: And then at the
Tennessee State House, notice
the code switch
Unknown: seemed like the NRA and
gun lobbyists might win. But
that was good news for us. I
don't know how long this
Saturday in the state of
Tennessee might last. But all we
have good news, folks. We've
gotten good news that Sunday
always comes.
John C Dvorak: He went through.
He's also got to hear a wind
from just a normal looking cut
to a big afro with sunglasses.
He looks like you know, he looks
like Stokely Carmichael. If
anyone can remember that.
Adam Curry: Whoa, reference
shoots over everyone's head.
Nice.
John C Dvorak: Good nice. Not
everyone. There's always three
or four guests that I disagree
with Adam, I know exactly what
you were talking about when it
says
Adam Curry: Michael Of course,
of course. Anyway, it's it's sad
is sad to see this happening.
And um, and you, you and I know
parents who are convinced that
their child is trans and how
radical they are about it. And
and I've read the books I've
read the books it's not about
your kid the books about how do
you handle society? How do you
handle your your Republican
neighbors? How do you handle
this? How do you how do you
handle the gays who don't like
it? The gays? Yeah, like
John C Dvorak: gays are dual
gays, you have to remember we
got to remember this is trans
split. And most gay men and gay
women are all cisgendered. And
as you recall that little tick
tock clip I played earlier, this
guy has declared war on sis. On
sis,
Adam Curry: we're the problem
because God is trans. I mean, we
heard it here first.
John C Dvorak: God is trans and
trans is God. There's your
sacrilegious issues.
Adam Curry: So just to simplify
it. We really need to stop the
pronouns. And that's a hard one
because that's so embedded. It's
so embedded and it's it's become
like this cultural lien recently
embedded. Yeah, but it is really
deeply embedded. It's a core.
It's a quite, I
John C Dvorak: would say Jay,
Jay and Brennan here. And we are
all into the pronouns Alina
liaises, they stay in them and
Himanshi JC and Jessie don't
don't bring it up. If it
happens, it shows up. So I can't
say for sure. Jessie. Maybe
maybe not. But it's pretty
deeply ingrained. Yeah, but the
closer you are to, to the Z
Generation Z to your Zilla
escalas millennial if you're
close as a millennial
Adam Curry: oh there you go.
Yeah, I wish they had they
talked a little bit of history
and that one clip that one clip
by James Lindsay to me says it
all good clip Yeah. I should
have gotten clipped the day
really
John C Dvorak: wasn't I would
have to give it a couple of days
Joe Rogan
Adam Curry: Come on Come on,
man. That's not fair. All right.
Let's see. Oh, well
John C Dvorak: they see there's
anything else on this topic?
Adam Curry: Oh, you have whoa is
there more I'm I'm depleted.
John C Dvorak: Hazel I got that.
Laura Lopez.
Adam Curry: I don't think so.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it doesn't
look like you got anything else.
Now.
Adam Curry: I will take a minor
when a tiny teeny one. As Elon
Musk has officially changed the
corporate Twitter into x. It's
common.
John C Dvorak: And I do have
three Elon Musk clips.
Adam Curry: I know I'm gonna let
him this is, you don't think I'm
leading you right into it? I
don't know. And I'm pretty sure.
And also today Twitter taps
eToro to let users trade in
stocks and crypto. So now he's
bringing he's bringing the
financial stuff. Yeah. And I
already I am pretty sure that
come July, he will most likely
be one of the launch partners
for fed now, which makes a lot
of sense. Now he does have to be
a bank or have a banking
license. But that's not a
problem because he can rent that
from from any number of people.
How do
John C Dvorak: I get by little
bank, it's no big deal, no
problem at all got the money to
buy Bank of America. And he
Adam Curry: and he has
registered to be a money changer
to to do conversion. So that
would be part of it will be the
crypto and other things. And
then I think that, you know,
he's positioning himself as you
did a really good job with this.
This BBC thing really, really
did a good job. I
John C Dvorak: never know what
if you watch the BBC. Oh, do
tell. Well, the BBC cut out
they've cut this thing down. 10
ways to do that. Do you have the
original? I took some clips from
the original bucks. But a couple
of things that I thought were
interesting. There's the best
one, of course is the which the
BBC refused to play pretty much
is where it goes after the game
on hate speech. A guy says to
set the stage tell us what's
going on. Because there's an
interview with this guy, James
Clayton, or I can't remember his
name, but he's the tech guy from
tech guy. He's the tech guy. And
he doesn't know anything about
musk. And the joke as if you
read the analysis of a lot of
this is that he had all these
canned questions he had on his
little phone that he read off
the phone. That's pretty cool.
And then he ran out of
questions, and somebody says, he
ran out of questions and having
kind of cut it short, even
though we went on for about 15
minutes or more. He says, but
you got the world's richest guy
sitting right in front of you.
Have you run out of material
that asked him? Are you kidding
me? Ask him for his stock tip. I
mean, holy mackerel. How dumb
are you?
Adam Curry: Well, he is the tech
reporter because he has a phone.
John C Dvorak: He has a felony.
So this is the best. This is the
best part. And this is I missed
the beginning of it. But this is
the part where he, him and musk
go after each other over? Well,
I understand that Twitter's got
a lot more hate speech, I
noticed that. So must push his
back on this. And he again, he
beats the guy up. Here we go. I
Unknown: said you've seen more
hateful content. But you can't
name a single example not even
one. I'm not sure I've used that
feed for the last three or four
weeks. And
how did you see the hateful
content content?
Because I've been I've been
using, I've been using Twitter
since you've taken over for the
last six months, because
then you must have at some point
seen that you for your hateful
content. I'm asking for one
example. Right? If you can't
give us an all I'm saying I say
so that you don't know what
you're talking about, really,
because you connect a single
example of hateful content or
even one tweet, and yet you're
claimed to the hateful content
was high? Well,
that's a false No. When I could
just lie it what No, no, what I
claim was there are many
organizations that say that that
kind of information is on the
rise now whether whether it has
I mean, right? Like the the
Strategic Dialogue is this,
you're in the EU in the UK, they
will say that. So
people will say all sorts of
nonsense. I'm literally asking
you for a single example. And
you can name one, right? Yeah,
Adam Curry: I call this a big
win for Elon. And wow, what an
easy one. And how dumb is that?
I mean, again, these are the
things that go viral these days.
You know, so you have been
Anheuser Busch lost, like $6
billion, just fall fill filled
out a thorough that pocket. Wow,
that's $6 million. And now, now,
this and how many? How many
times? Have you ever been
interviewed by someone who was
this dumb? I mean, it happens
all the time, particularly from
the military all the time. And
they just have a list of
questions. And they don't really
know what they're talking about.
And this is the presumptuous
stuff now, and this, by the way,
could have easily have been Kara
Swisher she could have easily
said, Well, you know, hate
speech is on the rise. And
that's why she doesn't get an
interview with it. But I would
love to hear her interview with
Elon Musk. Because you're
John C Dvorak: right, because
she Yeah, she was a part PBE
killer. So there's just a couple
of little things that I thought
were interesting. This was the
banning Twitter this little
shorty.
Unknown: Tick tock has also been
in the news. There's talk of,
perhaps by the administration
wanting to potentially ban it or
or are forced to sail. What's
your view of the situation?
I just don't know enough about
what's going on there. I can't
say I have a strong opinion on
tick tock.
So you'd have an opinion on on
whether it should be banned or
not.
You know, I'm generally against
banning things. So I probably
not being fair. I mean, it
would, it would help Twitter I
suppose if Tik Tok was banned,
because then people would spend
more time on Twitter unless I'm
on Tik Tok. But even though that
would be that even if we would
help Twitter, I would be
generally against banning of
things.
Adam Curry: Oh, well, you're
you're pro China.
John C Dvorak: Well, I think
that he had that was the right
answer. So he did. Okay.
Adam Curry: Let me just let me
just say the accusation is, he
is pro China, because China is
the big shareholder and Tesla.
Tesla is important. China is
important to Tesla. Yeah, yeah.
You can say that. Yeah. I'm just
saying that's what people say,
John C Dvorak: Okay, it's right,
reasonable. What do they say
about this? And this was, I
think, or is this kind of like,
and like to know more about
this, the dog CEO?
Unknown: You said that you were
going to stand down? Chief
Executive, right. Okay.
I have not the CEO of Twitter,
my dog is the CEO. Well, okay.
What
John C Dvorak: was she's already
stepped down his dog is the CEO
of Twitter. Do we know this?
Adam Curry: Well, that would
make sense. If, if the Twitter
is now x Corp, then the Twitter
Corp can can easily have his dog
as CEO. Let me see. You long as
John C Dvorak: you said, you see
again. Does the dog have a did
use a paw and checks? The pod
error as a signature for a
check? I don't
Adam Curry: know. But I do see
this. And I'm saying See,
because I actually see it. I do
see this. And I do believe I do
believe and I do see this
headline everywhere. Hmm. Well,
I
John C Dvorak: can listen, get
more play. I didn't know this
until I listened to this
interview. What shows the dog
was the CEO of Twitter?
Adam Curry: I think it's
probably true. Because Twitter
has been moved over to x and
Twitter is just an empty shell
likely, possibly. And that is
them. So that dog is the CEO of
Twitter because it's just a
piece of paper. It's not a
corporation anymore, that
John C Dvorak: so there's
another little tidbit that's
floating around. It's a local
story. Musk wanted to take the W
off of the sign it says Twitter
so it says Twitter. Yes.
Adam Curry: Another part of
moving into X Corp. He doesn't
care about the brand. Twitter is
going
John C Dvorak: back so they
wouldn't let him do that because
there's some I don't know why
some zoning thing. So he painted
the W out with white paint. So
it just says kind of Twitter or
Twitter. And I was listening to
the story it we have this late,
the show had KPI X woman this
new woman came out from LA named
Sarah Dawn she who's very
attractive, but kind of cross
eyed woman who's got to be six
foot tall. And she wouldn't say
it she wouldn't say titter is
not no, not about tits. Oh, no.
She wouldn't say titter. She
just was kind of skirted the
issue as it were. But But
Twitter's like you know, hey, it
means giggling.
Adam Curry: Well, if Twitter
Inc, no longer exists as of
April 4, then yes, he can say my
dog is the CEO of Twitter
because Twitter does not exist.
I know if he has a dog. He
probably doesn't.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, now you're
talking. He doesn't have a dog.
Why do we assume he has a dog?
We've never seen this dog. He
never talked about his dog. Most
people have dogs. They post a
picture of the dog once in a
while.
Adam Curry: Is that Doge dog?
Oh, no. It's not true.
People are so gullible and so
stupid anything to fill up the
airwaves. Anything at all? I did
want to mention I'm very
disappointed that we had this
whole big to do about ending the
COVID Emergency by a vote by a
veto proof vote, which forced
President Biden to terminate the
national COVID emergency and
what does the TSA do? They come
out with an emergency amendment
saying no, you know be a steal
can't come into the United
States as a non national non
green hold card holder. Not am
citizen without full COVID
vaccinations until May 11. What
is that all about? And why
aren't arcane now?
John C Dvorak: Now you you have
now made it clear that there's
something else going on? Yes.
And I only because this is a
this is way over the top.
Adam Curry: And does TSA really
have this kind of power
John C Dvorak: over the guest.
So this would administrative
status like we have no idea how
much power these administrative
units
Adam Curry: well the way that
the way they're using? Well they
do I'll answer the question the
way they use their power. It's
not like you come to America and
customs says show me your COVID
papers. Know what the way they
do it. They're the
Transportation Security
Administration not Department of
Homeland Security not border.
What does it see as CPB Border
Patrol I'm missing something in
our customs Customs and Border
Patrol? Thank you know, what
they have control over is
transportation. So the way this
order works is they say no
airline may allow a passenger to
board without providing proof of
COVID vaccination. So it has
nothing to do with our with our
border policy. That is a it is
an agency run amok.
John C Dvorak: And I would like
it's all done at the other end.
Adam Curry: Yes. Before you get
you, you. So they won't give you
the airline has to check you
which of course, you know, I'm
sure some airlines like you got
to COVID thing. Okay, good.
You're good to go. There's no
way to check if you had enough,
you know, what is enough how
many vaccinations or what is
fully vaccinated. All of that is
so subjective at this point. But
the fact that this is just
accepted and the same lawmakers
who Oh, whoa, we're going to end
this haven't done that is pretty
lame. And yes, no, I think it's
suspicious. It is and maybe it's
for this ABC Good Morning
America.
Unknown: The CDC is advising
health officials in the US to be
on the lookout for cases of an
Ebola like disease called merb
Marburg, from siblings to virus
harbors. Listen, I think the
last three years of the pandemic
has really taught us how
important it is to keep our eye
on what's happening in other
parts of the world. This alert
now from the CDC World Health
Organization is already talking
about it about
Adam Curry: the world BLESS YOU
THE WORLD Hort, the World Health
Organization already talking
about it. Who cares.
Unknown: This alert now from the
CDC World Health Organization,
is there an additional
Adam Curry: she says from the
CDC World Health Organization
like it's one thing now, we're
gonna be get why No, but we got
to identify happening
Unknown: in other parts of the
world. This alert now from the
CDC World Health Organization is
already talking about it about a
virus not new. It was first
identified in 1967, but it's
called Marburg virus. It is
rare, it's very similar to Ebola
in terms of the fact that it
spread through bodily fluids or
blood of an infected and
actively sick person symptoms,
fever, headache, fatigue, muscle
and joint pain, nausea,
vomiting, diarrhea and internal
bleeding in severe cases, and it
has a very high fatality rate
averages 50%. That's the average
it could be as high as 80. We
have to underscore right now
there are no known cases in the
United States, but India and
Equatorial Guinea, the east and
western coast of Central Africa
and again, those countries have
very active borders. So again,
it's important for us to keep an
eye on what's happening in other
parts of the world.
Adam Curry: I am very happy with
this development because we have
a lot of jingles.
We got so many Ebola jingles so
we can do more.
John C Dvorak: Marburg is
slightly different. Well, the
correct I'm sure it was made in
the same lab. Let's go. Let's
Adam Curry: go to the master.
Let's go to the man who we trust
implicitly because you cannot
shoot him down Dr. Peter
McCullough. And this is from his
own notes. He does little like
kind of like a it's more like
he's recording in his
dictaphone.
John C Dvorak: He could even
call it bringing it up to his
mouth and maybe whispering
notes. You
Adam Curry: can call it a
podcast. Here he is giving a
little intro to Marburg
Unknown: actor Anthony Fauci
stated with certainty that there
will be another infectious
disease crisis. Inevitably,
there'll be another pandemic,
whether it's this next year or
decades from now. Unquote. In
this interview with CNN, Jim
Acosta, Fauci also doubled down
on public masking is a useful
strategy and his theory that
SARS cov two arose from nature
both of which are known to be
completely disproven in
published studies in by our own
US government agencies. I found
his comments about another
crisis worse worth taking up for
the Philo virus Marburg.
Adam Curry: There you go. So
he's onto the ball crap and what
Other symptoms.
Unknown: There have been
sporadic outbreaks of Marburg
disease in Sub Saharan Africa
for 50 years. Here's the CDCs
description of the syndrome
quote after incubation, a period
of two to 21 days symptom onset
is sudden and marked by fever,
chills, headache and myalgia.
Around the fifth day after onset
of symptoms of maculopapular
rash, most prominent in the
trunk, chest, back and stomach
may occur. nausea vomiting,
chest pain, or sore throat,
abdominal pain and diarrhea may
be symptoms may become
increasingly severe and can
include jaundice, inflammation
of the pancreas, severe weight
loss, delirium, shock, liver
failure, massive hemorrhaging,
and multi organ dysfunction.
Adam Curry: All right, sounds
groovy sounds sounds like sounds
like a good one to me. And what
can we do about it? Well, would
you believe it or
Unknown: not mentioned is
hydroxychloroquine which other
papers have proposed has been a
useful first empirical agent
against Philo virus and other
viruses in this genus species
among the immediately available
products in the world to
consider that are known to be
safe hydroxychloroquine and
favipiravir a Japanese antiviral
for influenza and COVID 19 would
be among the first empirically
deploy
John C Dvorak: the one the
Japanese one, go back it back.
Unknown: Among the immediately
available products in the world
to consider that are known to be
safe hydroxychloroquine and
favipiravir ajet
Adam Curry: favipiravir. Yeah,
never heard of it. No, but we
want some Japanese antiviral,
Unknown: yes, influenza and
COVID-19 would be among the
first empirically deployed
countermeasures five
Adam Curry: Vera mir. fav I have
a pyramid here. F IV FAVIPIRAV.
Ir. Father, Father, Pierre Amir.
Found it you got it?
John C Dvorak: No, I didn't
found it.
Adam Curry: Oh, I'll keep
looking. We need it. But you
know, there are there are
there's competition. There's
competition out there. You know,
this is not does not come from
the CDC, the World Health
Organization does come from the
world Indian organizational
network.
Unknown: So will age three and
eight be China's next big
export. After the deadly Wuhan
virus. Is this bird flu going to
be Beijing's next gift to the
world?
Adam Curry: Eight three and
eight. Sounds like oh callsign.
Hotel three Nov. Eight.
John C Dvorak: Great callsign.
Adam Curry: So who knows? Who
knows? Who knows how that's all
gonna go down? Who knows? Crazy?
Sure, just crazy. All right. I
think we can agree we do want
I'd like to do one more sequence
of stories here if you got
something good. Well,
John C Dvorak: I do have my Hong
Kong update which had been
trying to play for a while you
do do you? I do. I do. I do.
Let's do it. Let's start with
Hong Kong update and T D UK.
Unknown: This is in D. D,
since Beijing imposed a national
security law in Hong Kong.
people's freedoms there have
been increasingly eroded. Just
recently, two men were arrested
for owning books about sheep
trying to hold back walls, which
authorities say are seditious
more than 150,000 Hong Kongers
have applied for a special visa
over the last two years to start
new lives in the UK. Earlier I
was joined by the director of
the UK and EU Public Affairs for
the committee for freedom in
Hong Kong Foundation, Mark saba.
Hi, Mark, it's great to speak to
you. And people in Hong Kong
have increasingly had their
freedoms taken away. Can you
tell me what it's like for Hong
Kong is there right now.
So since the introduction of the
National Security Law, there's
been a real crackdown on civil
society. Media has free media
has collapsed. state run media
is the norm and any other media
that's been allowed to stay open
is because they're following CCP
guidelines or authority
guidelines what they can and
can't say. So essentially,
they've lost their their free
status. In terms of civil
society, Hong Kong had a very
vibrant sector, which would
light candles on Tiananmen
Square memorials in Victoria
Park, there was a very healthy
attitude towards peaceful
protests and so on. And all of
us been crushed, using the
National Security Law as a
pretext calling people
subversive or sedition or
whatever else it is. And it's
gotten to the point now where
two people arrested this week
for owning a book that had been
banned, not distributing it or
selling it, but just for owning
a book that they consider the
authorities considered to be
subversive. Incidentally, it was
a book written by speech
therapists about sheep and
wolves, and the authorities took
that as a sleight against the
CCP being the wolves. Under
people being the sheep, which is
ridiculous, but that's how
sensitive they become to any
form of criticism or perceived
criticism. So you can probably
go about your daily life. You
know, go to your job, go to the
supermarket, go to the beach
without much problem. But it's
an entry step outside those
lines, those defined lines that
you see very strictly how
everything has changed. No, you
Adam Curry: don't hear anything
about this. I mean, anything
zero? There's no we'd
John C Dvorak: like to bless the
Chinese or did Lindsey Graham
goes on about one thing or
another, but this whole Hong
Kong story has been completely
suppressed by the mainstream?
Why? Yeah, I mean, good story.
Adam Curry: Is there any? I
mean, is there any commerce
going on with Hong Kong anymore?
Can you still go there? And
John C Dvorak: I'm pretty sure
it's pretty much the same
except, you know, the Chinese
are over looking everything.
They're keeping a watchful eye
out his part, too.
Unknown: And a lot of people
have now escaped to the UK. Hong
Kong has, I think, more than
150,000 people applied for these
b&o visa schemes to live and
work here, but some of them have
faced assault even here in the
UK, haven't they?
Yeah, that's right. So there's
been about 130 140, who
successfully received their b&o
status. There's many 1000s of
others who've applied as asylum
seekers. But it hasn't always
been smooth sailing. Just as
with anyone who moves to foreign
country, there are difficulties
with language, getting used to
society finding health care,
education, jobs training,
although most Hong Kong has have
have some bilingual capability,
not everyone who comes does and
like every other group of people
who move here they need
assistance with with that
integration. But the other part
is, is the slightly more
sinister part where a lot of
Hong Kongers have found that
they have actually come under
attack of some sort. Some have
reported being followed. Many
when they gather have had
stories of harrassment in bars,
restaurants cafes, being
followed as a fairly common one
being photographed or videoed.
There was a few who reported
that as a small demonstration in
Edinburgh, a group of men in
balaclava started filming
everyone and of course, that
disperse the crowds in 10
seconds. And there is the odd
story of violence and actual
physical assault. There was a
young girl in Edinburgh who told
us a story how she was sitting
in a cafe with some friends of
hers from Hong Kong, and a group
of men walked in and said, Are
you from Hong Kong? And when
they said yes, they took all
their coffees and threw them on
them. And of course, many of the
girls got scolded and burned.
There are some incidents of
people having been actually
beaten on the streets. There are
stories even in Chinatown in
London with people being shouted
down or followed or Harris as
they walk down the road. So
unfortunately, there is a
slightly sinister side which the
British government hasn't fully
got to grips with.
Adam Curry: Is Hong Kong so
unimportant that we don't have
to go and protect it. LINDSEY
GRAHAM
John C Dvorak: Well, we get was
given up by the British was it
was a crown colony, right. And
Margaret Thatcher is the one to
sign the signed off on giving it
back to Chinese. Right. Right.
But that's an a protector. I
know
Adam Curry: that we had we had
finance, finance, finance, and
we just screw up they don't need
the finance and screw these
people.
John C Dvorak: They move most of
that to Shanghai. Okay, all
right. Good to go. But it this
idea of this Chinese they do it
here too. But they set up their
own police forces, harassed and
nationals.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Is that still
a thing? I
John C Dvorak: remember it'd be
I think so. Huh? Just play
update three.
Unknown: In fact, the most
obvious sign that they haven't
got to grips with was the
beating of Bob chan in
Manchester. You may recall that
there was a protest outside the
Consul General at the time of
the CCP National Congress when
Xi Jinping became leader for
life. And the Consul General
there physically participated in
the assault of a Hong Kong who
was protesting he was dragged
into the grounds. He had his
hair pulled, he was kicked, he
was punched. And it was only
thanks to a policeman who broke
protocol by stepping into the
grounds of the concert and
pulled him out that he was fine.
But the shocking thing wasn't
even the beating. The shocking
thing was the appalling reaction
by the British government. They
didn't expel the diplomats even
though they were caught on
camera, even though the Consul
General went on TV the next day
to admit what he did. And he did
it with pride because it was in
the interest of defending China.
The government did nothing to to
punish those people. And if
you're not punishing diplomats
for massively breaking protocol,
they should have been expelled
the next day. What sign are you
sending to other authoritarian
regime diplomats? But worse than
that, what you're telling Hong
Kong is, is that you've come
here to be safe, but you're not.
Adam Curry: Hmm. Well,
John C Dvorak: yeah, we actually
saw that that Did played that
video that was played up a
little bit in the media?
Adam Curry: And I kind of
remember that. But what kind of
mean, how does how can this not
be? How can action not be
undertaken? If this is also an
if and I think you may be right
this is happening in America
with a with a police force. What
is who's on the take here? Who
true who's allowing this to
happen?
John C Dvorak: That's a good
question. Well, it has to do
with the diplomatic service. So
State Department,
Adam Curry: I blame Feinstein.
State Department state. Yeah,
well, okay. Well,
John C Dvorak: Lincoln, your
buddy,
Adam Curry: careful who you call
my buddy.
John C Dvorak: All right, here's
the end of it.
Unknown: And so it had a very
negative effect on the mentality
of many Hong Kongers who, who
suddenly realize that they're on
their own, even though they're
here that the government is not
here to protect them. On one
hand, they've been given a visa
to get out of Hong Kong. On the
other hand, when they're here,
more or less, they're on their
own. I spoke to a young Hong
Kong students in Edinburgh who
said to me, she had been
followed and harassed and
bullied multiple times in
Edinburgh. And she said to me, I
left Hong Kong to run away from
China. And now I'm in the UK
China's still chasing me. The
implication being that they're
always there. It's unrelenting
and it's it's really
intimidating. intimidating.
Adam Curry: Wow, man, none of
this is good.
John C Dvorak: China. Good. No,
Adam Curry: maybe Lindsey
Graham's got a point there. A
nuclear tip
John C Dvorak: the poison the
top of his head.
Adam Curry: With that, I'd like
to thank you for your courage to
in the morning tea with the man
who put two seats in the
electrical equity ladies and
gentlemen, please say hello to
my friend on the other end, Mr.
John C. Guevara.
John C Dvorak: In the morning,
you must read Adam curry also in
the morning all ships seamlessly
refuge near such games and
nights out there
Adam Curry: in the morning to
all the trolls in the troll room
who had been taken care of
everything. I love seeing the
trolls giving me all kinds of
info feeding back kicking out
douchebags with 1939 is the
troll count for today. But we
are late. We are late with our
count because the
John C Dvorak: donation segment
I think will be good to
Thursday. So that's not a bad
number.
Adam Curry: So it's a one one
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because we'd like to do kind of
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piece of art was certain
holidays like the Easter holiday
that was episode 1545 which was
titled take stapler abuse and
networks came closest with the
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a miss Budweiser. Although you
know it kind of fit a little bit
it wasn't it was bitch that
John C Dvorak: didn't say Miss
Bud Light.
Adam Curry: I did. I did
networks did that. We appreciate
that networks did it and but we
looked at other stuff and just
it really wasn't there. And I
can't explain the main beam but
the
John C Dvorak: one we both
liked. Yes, was by Scarem venga
go back. But it was so
sacrilegious that we decided
that
Adam Curry: was was a bit much
we did get a chuckle out of it.
Other stuff that I mean, there
was just there was some other
things you actually liked sir
Polka tours. Art although it had
dates on it and everything and
Listen Live, which was not
exactly what we were looking
for. I don't know. Nothing just
hate us what we did look at
fluff comet. Why did we choose
the fluff comet?
John C Dvorak: Which one was
that? Oh, I
Adam Curry: remember why the
flip fluff comment is the Easter
egg. The Easter Bunny, Easter
Bunny stealing the Easter egg.
The easter egg had no agenda on
it. But the mistake of that art
was carried to vorak was like
little teeny letters in the
background on the hill. Not not
readable. That's not how it
works. I mean, look at the
predecessors, you need to have
our names big in lights or at
least legible. So we chose
networks. Art, I mean, it
doesn't matter. I by the way
also did like his his little
Devorah back also had an egg for
the Oh, with little heart in it.
If there was some nice nice
elements to it the Miss
Budweiser part. For me, it
should have been Miss Bud Light
or even if you didn't use it.
who probably would have been
good without that? Maybe. What
do you think?
John C Dvorak: I liked him to
ban right? It made no sense. No,
Adam Curry: not really. It
didn't. And what was the bra
you'd like to bra?
John C Dvorak: Was it was their
bra? No, no, that was when I
found for the newsletter. Oh,
right. Right. Right. Okay, curry
Devorah because two boobs
literally there you go.
Adam Curry: Thank you so much
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There's a lot of podcasts you
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We thank you very very much. Now
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Associate Executive producers
who brought us the treasure for
episode 1546. And we kick it off
with Craig Thurman from
Westfield, Indiana with $1,000
which we always love. Longtime
Boehner first time donor instant
like me, Baby All right, how
about that? I'm gonna wait to go
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sir Craig of the Darkmoon. He
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Craig of the Dark Moon. I'm from
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Unknown: You've got karma.
John C Dvorak: Rachel Fraser
comes in next from St.
clairsville, Ohio. Switcheroo in
the Morning John and I'm just
donation on behalf of my
incredible incredible and
adoring husband Sean Fraser.
This man grew up with
unthinkable traumas and
adversity. However, through
God's grace and a few miracles
now extremely successful
businessman, wonderful husband
and father all right, who were
highschool sweethearts, and had
been married for 29 years. I'm
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Please wish Shona Happy birthday
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Please accept this donation for
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Adam Curry: Nice. Oh, nice. Not
a wonderful woman you are.
Congrats Shawn. Cam Warren is in
Cordova, Illinois 333 33. We
love that as the executive
producer forever titled
donation. Great show guys. My
exit strategy starts this
Friday. So I thought I'd get my
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Cordova, mutton and Mead seems
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Keep it up. Here you go cam
Thank you.
Unknown: You've got karma.
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Adam Curry: You've got karma.
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You've been de Deus. Can I get a
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Patrick McGugan jobs,
Unknown: jobs jobs
John C Dvorak: you got the next
one I blows up my spreadsheet.
It's too long.
Adam Curry: Okay, I may have to
shorten it up Matt from
Manassas, Virginia to 33 and 33
cents which is an Associate
Executive Producer ship. It's
been a rough year in sales but I
wanted to donate and supportive
Adams acceptance of Jesus Christ
as Lord and Savior John's
birthday and the excellent
analysis. The inspiration for my
donation was Adams heartfelt
reading of the trans story on a
recent episode Yes, the no
official Noah the formerly
former official no agenda treni
Ali Jade. I'm just going to call
who call AJ from now. I'm
donating my treasures
specifically a portion of my
Commission's as no agenda
accompanies me on nearly every
one of my commutes doing in home
design and sales in Northern
Virginia, Maryland and DC, where
I sold face to face a home
improvement to one of Adam's
least favorite media
personalities. Who could that
be?
John C Dvorak: Well, Virginia?
Yeah. So a spook central he must
run into some very crazy I'm
Adam Curry: gonna say Jake
Tapper would be while No. Well,
that's one of my least favorite
media Wolf Blitzer eyes doesn't
come Oh, no, no, it's a she so
that must have been Oh, that
must have been Joy read. She was
nice enough. But I remember
being all GD at the air of
elitism, though. This is good
content. And names I heard
dropped while their eyeballs
gotta be her. It's gotta be it's
gotta be choice read. I have
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FBI directors in my sales
experience. Make no mistake, the
commie elites love luxury items
and see us as the servant class.
Sidenote, $4,000, in quote,
profit sharing was withheld from
me last year due to my refusal
to disclose my job status with
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sending me into homes all year.
I do believe that a nationwide
build back better memo went out
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like it. Since then. I now often
hear my beautiful wife and
homeschool teacher listening to
the show, and have hit at least
one other person in the mouth
since keep up the excellent
work. Sorry to see Moe facts go
yes, we have nine more episodes
and when we close it out at 100
part of this donation is poured
out for the dead homies at mo
facts no karma. I have the Holy
Spirit. By the way, John, the
best weed whacker is the ego
power model, all as well as most
of their other battery powered
lawn equipment. Well, there you
go. Mystery solved,
John C Dvorak: necessarily.
Adam Curry: Thank you very much.
So
John C Dvorak: what's happening
with Moe?
Adam Curry: Well, we decided to
end the series at 100. When we
started four years ago, Moe had
a very different job. And he
takes you know, he has 40 clips.
It's a very, very well prepared,
pre produced show that he could
do while he was working. Then of
course he was fired for not
accepting the vaccine into his
life. And then he had to become
an entrepreneur and he's working
his ass saw and he just he just
doesn't have the time for it
right now. So for now, we'll
wind it out some throughout this
year with nine more episodes,
take it up to 100. And then we
still will talk and we'll still
of course we're good friends
now. It may be in the future we
can start up again but he has
four children who are also
homeschool now because of the
stupidity in Northern Virginia
schools etc. And vaccine and
mass requirements. So I see it
as a great moment for him to to
be able to regroup you know,
it's hard being an entrepreneur
certainly these times and we all
love him for what he's done. And
these are evergreen shows, you
know, it's not like they're not
worth they're not worthless,
they're all really valuable
John C Dvorak: so I would like
to dissuade the two of you from
doing this well, I know it's
easy for me to say it's very
Adam Curry: easy for you to say
I believe me this was not a
decision come to easily believe
me,
John C Dvorak: Oregon local 33
is the last on our list here for
the associate and executive
producers executive producers
Associate Executive producer in
Portland Oregon. $233.33
Switcheroo another one we've had
a great meet up at the Dick's so
it is the primal burger Portland
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previous local 30 threes are
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she is now a dame Oh her name
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Adam Curry: well we're just
going to no we're not going to
give her selenium I know is what
she
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Unknown: jobs. Jobs karma.
Adam Curry: That's about the
fattest one I got before we move
on to the rest of the producers
we do have a make good for
Jackie Greene. Somehow we missed
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tell you what happens. Oh please
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John C Dvorak: We have an old
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Adam Curry: old is it is so old
I forgot to ask. Yes.
John C Dvorak: And every once in
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it goes into that account it
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here want to make sure you guys
actually got my donation. Well,
I guess we did. Finally I sent
it through PayPal on March 25. I
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John C Dvorak: The next part
Adam Curry: of it I'm reading
what do I that's just a note to
trigger that. But you don't want
me to read the whole thing. And
John C Dvorak: it's just a
second person with the note was
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Adam Curry: Okay, ITM m j m k
more jingles more karma?
John C Dvorak: Yeah. said
Adam Curry: thanks for all you
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Unknown: karma karma.
Adam Curry: All right. John will
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Unknown: Our formula is this. We
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And nice note earlier he'll be
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see these beautiful rings but
also I'm sorry the dog needs to
leave the studio and I don't
want it to make a mess your
haunt John sing for a second do
something
John C Dvorak: I can do a few
things I can practice on the
Adam Curry: dynamite I almost
don't want to stop you. So good.
So good. The dog the dog needed
to go out of the studio to walk
her but she's been in here
sleeping and then when she gets
up that means she's crowning.
John C Dvorak: Oh it means
Adam Curry: exactly. No agenda
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These are for knights and for
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the four of you and welcome to
the roundtable. We love having
you here. Know what
we got a lot of meetups
happening this week. I mean a
lot of meetups and only one
bless you only one meet up
report it to the Ozarks from the
Ozarks deconstruction zone meet
up in the morning John
Unknown: natum. And this is
Dustin coming from the Queen
City of the Ozarks, Springfield,
Missouri. We're down here at
Lindbergh tavern having a great
time. I'm gonna pass her on the
phone and let everybody
introduce themselves. I'm Sara
del savory.
I am Dane del Samer in the
morning.
Hi, this is Jane. Hello. It's T
Parker here saying hi to Danny
in San Diego. No. Hello
pas breaking media in the
morning and in the grass. This
is the Reverend Dr. Pfeiffer
from the Sunday morning to our
folk era have good morning. Hui
Hui from the Ozarks.
This is Donald. And that's
everybody here today and we had
a great time.
Adam Curry: And another good
looking group. I do appreciate
it when you guys send pictures.
I hope that you publish those
somewhere because no agenda
meetups man they're really cool.
People who you'd never expect to
see sitting together are
enjoying each other as a group
and here's what's coming up.
Today actually six o'clock 630
That'll be a New Paltz, New York
is the shower Shang Gong Ridge
meet up number seven at the
breakfast at the spoke post
Spring Break Denver meetup.
There'll be at 630 and hanging
out one on one in Lakewood,
Colorado. Last minute leaked
secret Denver area meetup woohoo
competition 630 at Lincoln's
Roadhouse also in Denver, or in
Denver, Colorado, I'm sorry,
different town. Then tomorrow
the northwest Houston meet up
730 At Wakefield crowbar and
Houston, Texas. We have the
local 251 International
Brotherhood of mouth hitters
coming together at 130 at Judy's
place in Mobile, Alabama. Nice.
Saturday in North Carolina tree
at two o'clock at Kernersville
Brewing Company and corners
North Kernersville North
Carolina. Then we have the
Central Jersey 730 to meet up at
two o'clock at Garden State
distillery Toms River Hello exit
103 I think Sure. Oh sir Daniels
organizing that is we need
another update on Veritas from
you sir Daniels. Spot the spook.
Rheinland Phelps meet up in Zeit
Zeitoun center, Zeitung center
in minds Rheinland parlent.
Palin, not Germany, Muppet had
organized that for you on on
Saturday, there'll be a two
o'clock the shrunken amygdala
support group meets at two
o'clock and taps group thorium
in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Star
Chamber of Idaho comes together
at three o'clock at the beer
guys, saloon and star Idaho. We
have the fight of the flight of
the no agenda. This is the whole
Wow, this is the 40th meet up on
a mission 333 Pacific at heroes
restaurant and brewery in
Riverside California. Thank you
Leo Bravo 40 of those for you
anything but mainstream
Saturday's soiree five o'clock
big big Rob's in Ulis Texas.
April Lake Effect Hui Hui five
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and Crown Point Indiana Indiana
man off the hook. No more credit
in Swiss six o'clock Berlin
slash Amsterdam slash Paris time
at bar the Phaedo it feels so
safe in Zurich, Switzerland, no
more Credit Suisse. You gotta
get it. Friends of freedom on
Sunday 130 at Glover Park
brewery, Marietta Georgia, this
is on Sunday crossroads of
America no agenda tribal meetup,
spirit distillation three
o'clock at mash house at West
Fork whiskey company. Also
Sunday impromptu Utah Valley
meet up three o'clock at strap
tank brewery in Springville,
Utah. We have I Can't Believe
It's Not 1000s of sealed
indictments. Four o'clock in
Jefferson, Texas. That's a
private home so you need to RSVP
and I will be saved I shouldn't
be promoting the Nashville
meetup which will be on the 17th
was the seventh? Yes. That's
Monday. The keeper and I will be
there. We have of course. Sir
Patrick COBOL will be co hosting
this dame Jennifer will be there
I'm hoping Jeff Smith shows up
it's going to be a big old Hui
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If you'd like to learn more go
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yay. Look, I've got a couple of
new show ISOs I'd like to try to
fly by as if you'd like
anything. Sure. Okay, hold on
this is this is actually from
Guelph. I think he abused his
children for this one. Now it's
one channel only on sucks. I
would have been better for his
two channels. So you could
John C Dvorak: you hear barely
hear it on the left channel.
Adam Curry: I'm gonna have to
work on that. This is Fletcher
sent this in? It's too long, but
I did I didn't want to exclude
this as a Gene Wilder ISO
Unknown: and would you come on
my podcast? Come on your watch.
Adam Curry: And this is the one
that I think has legs.
John C Dvorak: That's some crazy
stuff right there. Kinda like
that one. Disappointing.
Adam Curry: Okay, what you got?
John C Dvorak: Now much better,
but I do have some stuff. Let's
try. Thank you. Thank you Easter
Bunny. Okay. And hop out. Hop on
out of here. Oh, come
Adam Curry: on. Clearly.
Clearly, this one wins.
Unknown: That's some crazy stuff
right there.
Adam Curry: Clearly that wins.
John C Dvorak: All right. Thank
you.
Adam Curry: If you get triggered
you buckle Oh, I have I got to
tell you about this ozempic
thing that I learned. I let me
put it this way. I learned a new
term. Have you heard of lean
body mass? I think so. What do
you think lean body mass is?
John C Dvorak: No lower fat
content.
Adam Curry: Incorrect. So
there's a big Fructus in the
ozempic world, you know, ozempic
is this diabetes drug that all
of Hollywood start using because
it really is great for weight
loss. Yeah, it also makes your
face sad. Yes. ozempic face is
absolutely a thing.
John C Dvorak: I think what's
her name though? Who keeps
talking about it? She used to be
on IE the blonde kind of a
comics as he had a talk show.
For some reason I'm losing her
name. I can't remember it. She
used to be on E. She was the
host of a couple of award shows
he keeps bringing up ozempic
jokes. Catherine Kindley. Now,
wow, more famous than that. How
do I come up with Catherine
Kinley? But I don't know. But
Chelsea Handler, Chelsea
Handler's goes, face trolls,
trolls, TROLLS. Good trolls.
Thank you trolls. But yeah,
she's got his Olympic face if
you look at her. Well,
Adam Curry: so turns out that,
and I have studies here and I
have science here. Science, I
guess you got a lot of science
here that on ozempic 75% of the
weight loss is lean body mass.
John C Dvorak: So good.
Adam Curry: Well, but this is
this and this is
John C Dvorak: this is muscle,
right? Yes.
Adam Curry: And if you look at
the science, they literally say,
Well, you know, we had a body
composition analysis of 88
volunteers with type two
diabetes who used smog, smog,
Lou, Lou tide, which is the you
know, the drugs name. These
participants lost an average of
12 and a half pounds of that
weight loss, there was a seven
and a half pound reduction in
fat mass and a five pound
reduction in lean mass. And
that's in scientific papers.
They are lying to you that is
muscle. And let me tell you,
when you let me hear me now
believe me later, when you lose
muscle, certainly, if you're if
you're older, you can't just
grow that back.
John C Dvorak: But yeah, you'd
have to work out in the gym for
years. So this is and it
wouldn't hurt to have some
testosterone you pick up Oh, red
parent Planned Parenthood.
Adam Curry: But this is this is
a horrible after years of
glorifying fat women, which I
think is also an odd way body
dysphoria by the viewer. I mean,
if you you can look at morbidly
obese women on Instagram. And
they will have a million
followers and they will be
having just standing there you
know, lifting one leg up, you
know and wearing literally
literally wanted to have this
important and then the comments
will be yes, Queen slay fire.
Beautiful. So after years and
years of glorifying this now, we
give you ozempic which removes
your muscle, you're gonna fall
into a heap. This is this is
real M. And I just have to point
out the obvious. You know, they
they took the 1970s hit. one hit
wonder pilot. Oh, oh, it's
magic. And I believe Oh, it's
Yeah. And they ozempic Yes. And
I believe that that is
subliminally still working. It's
magic. It's magic. ozempic is
magic.
John C Dvorak: Oh, very good.
Adam Curry: It's magic.
John C Dvorak: Very good. Very
light, very
Adam Curry: good marketing. But
people have to know that when
you read 50 to 75% of the weight
loss is from lean body mass.
That's your muscle. That's not
the stuff you want to lose.
Please be careful. I'm not a
doctor. I can't even get John
testosterone.
John C Dvorak: So we're just uh,
you were gonna You were just
picking them up from Rogen.
Adam Curry: We're just reading
the science and I'm not liking
it. All right, prediction. I
guess I got one thing, one thing
I'll leave you alone? No, I'm
sorry. You go ahead. Go for it.
First of all, I
John C Dvorak: want you to see
if you can hear the brainwashing
the propaganda. You know, the
abortion pill. We don't talk
about it but no controversy one,
when judges say one thing and
it'll resolve itself not to
concern but always get a kick
out of these foreign
correspondents. This is a clip
from Al Jazeera on the kind of
the problem the you know, this
this, this one particular
abortion pill. And I just want
to see if you can pick up on the
propagandistic comment that's in
there. I don't know where they
get this stuff but it's
AlJazeera so you know what they
know
Unknown: woman's right to access
abortion. This came after the
Supreme Court's decision to
overturn a constitutional right
to abortion Friday's to court
rulings mean the future of the
drug is uncertain. Many fear
this will increase the already
existing challenges faced by
women and some US states.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Wait,
man, wait, I gotta I gotta
listen to it again. It's so
short here. Let me hear it,
again.
Unknown: Women's rights to
access abortion. This came after
the Supreme Court's decision to
overturn a constitutional right.
Adam Curry: Oh, constitutional
right to abortion. Yeah, that's
a subliminal thing right there.
It's not true. It's not true.
It's bullcrap. Yes, it is.
John C Dvorak: There was never a
constitutional right and what
they overturn was a privacy law.
Anyway,
Adam Curry: let's let's see how
ABC handled. This news
Unknown: breaking overnight and
appeals court has partially
blocked a ruling from a Texas
judge that would have restricted
access to a widely used abortion
pill. The court is allowing the
FDA approval of MiFID pearlstone
to remain in place for now. But
the three judge panel is
allowing restrictions that were
lifted back in 2016. To be
reinstated, that means that the
drug can only be dispensed for
up to seven weeks of pregnancy
instead of 10 weeks and
distribution by mail would be
paused, which could
significantly impact the pills
availability. Many expect this
issue to be appealed to the
Supreme Court. Some states have
already been stockpiling the
drug. There was no response
overnight from the Biden
administration.
Adam Curry: He said you didn't
put in the
John C Dvorak: constitutional by
the way and put down you had to
be an idiot to put that in
there.
Adam Curry: We got a an update
from one of our trolls saying
there is no evidence that lean
body mass does not include bone
or brain tissue.
John C Dvorak: Yeah,
Adam Curry: why not? It's a very
good point. I think we need to
do this quick. Canadia Canada
Navia updates since we have been
trying to follow the story.
Unknown: The Prime Minister
addressing the fact that there's
been a mass resignation from the
Pierre Elliot Trudeau
Foundation, the President and
CEO and the board of directors
the volunteer board of directors
resigned during the political
fallout from a $200,000 donation
from a businessman with links to
the Chinese government. A brief
statement says that the
politicization of the foundation
made it impossible to continue
with the status quo. The
resignations prompted
conservative leader Pierre Polly
have to call for an
investigation into the
foundation and that comes well
at the same time as the Prime
Minister's top staffers Chief of
Staff. Katie Telford is set to
testify before a committee
that's investigating allegations
of elections interference, that
testimony will happen this
Friday.
Adam Curry: So I still am not
sure what happens to here but it
doesn't sound good for Trudeau.
Yeah, but this has happened
before with him, especially with
this with his mom and this
organization got
John C Dvorak: all kinds of
back, you know, dirt slippery,
Adam Curry: slippery,
John C Dvorak: slippery, very,
very
Adam Curry: slippery. Very
funny. little clip here from
John Kirby, the rear admiral
about the leaked documents that
have leaked documents that have
been such an embarrassment for
the United States because guess
what, we're spying on everybody.
Hey,
Unknown: again, without
confirming the validity of the
documents. This is information
that has no business in the
public domain. It has no
business if you don't mind me
saying on the pages of front
pages of newspapers are on top
is not intended for public
consumption and should not be
out
Adam Curry: there. You should
not be publishing edge. Too
late. Not saying well,
John C Dvorak: does he know how
the system works? Does he have
any idea how the system works?
Adam Curry: Well, he's actually
trying to play the system. He's
trying to tell them that you
can't own publish it. That's
right. It's too late. Here is
but they got him. They got him
but don't have them but they
know who it is. They smoked him
out. They don't have them yet,
but they know it's him. They got
him
Unknown: this morning a
bombshell report bombshell.
Adam Curry: bombshell. bombshell
somewhere with my bombshell,
Unknown: revealing details about
the leak of what appears to be
highly classified US military
documents. According to The
Washington Post, the alleged
leaker is in his 20s and worked
on a military base. The Post
reports he shared several
documents a week beginning late
last year with a group of about
two dozen people on Discord an
online chat room popular with
gamers.
I don't think that there was a
goal nor some sort of
accomplishment that he was
looking for in sharing these
documents. A
member of the chat room says the
man called America's
intelligence community
Adam Curry: before you know it
was gonna be the man was a
member of an online chat room
known as a troll room from a
podcast. You watch we're not far
from not
Unknown: porn sharing these
documents.
A member of the chat room says
the man called America's
intelligence community a
sinister force that sought to
suppress its citizens and keep
them in the dark. The Washington
Post says it spoke to a friend
of the alleged leaker agreeing
not to name or show the young
man who said this about his
friend.
You disagreed with several
occasions such as Waco and Ruby
Ridge and thought that the
government is overreaching in
several aspects. The report did
not name the alleged leaker and
ABC News has not verified the
report. In his statement,
Discord said it's cooperating
with law enforcement as the
Justice Department opens
Criminal Investigation.
Meanwhile, the Biden
administration is trying to
contain fallout from the leak,
which included dozens of
apparently classified Pentagon
documents exposing top secret
intelligence. The files suggest
potential problems for Ukraine,
including a dire shortage of air
defense missiles, the head of
Ukrainian military intelligence
as he spoke with his US
counterparts about the leak. He
blames Russia for the leak. But
the friend of the alleged leaker
disputes that
he is not a Russian operative.
He's not a Ukrainian operative.
I'll go as far to say he's not
even on the east side of the
world. He was he was a young
charismatic man who loves nature
God, who loved shooting guns and
racing cars.
Adam Curry: Ya know, the
Christian? Probably Hold on It's
homemakers troublemakers.
John C Dvorak: It's definitely a
troublemaker, but Okay, first of
all, Ruby Ridge. I mean, we
brought it up on the show before
Yeah. That's old. So this guy is
not a young man necessarily, in
this call everyone a young man,
like some people
Adam Curry: like in his early
20s. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: So Something's
fishy about that. Yeah, the
thing is, if this guy knows who
it is, well, that's dumb. Right?
That's the last thing I'd say.
Because he's gonna have a couple
of goons come over there, put in
thumb screws on him. Take him to
the you know, headquartered HQ,
and beat the shit out of him
until he gives up the guy's
name. Yeah. That's what you'd
think could happen. I missing
something I'd be worried about.
If I was that guy going I know
who it is. And he's a nice guy
likes to shoot guns. No, he's
just shut up about it. Okay, too
late. So that so we're gonna
find out who this is. It could
be bullcrap. It could be some
guy in some dumb chat room in
discord playing some video
games. Yeah, I'm the guy. So you
don't know. Well, Jesus whole
thing is
Adam Curry: I think the
intelligence community has
probably had their eye on
Discord for a while anyway.
John C Dvorak: I'm sure they
have and discord is probably Oh,
there's got to have two guys in
there have to be spooks. crazy
not to be
Adam Curry: we were talking
earlier about Mo and me one of
the things that that mo
predicted start to come true
when I was in Jamaica was that
it was going to be the drill
rap. That would be the impetus
for for cracking down for
bringing us the 2024 crime bill,
by Joe Biden, of course in in
following of the 1994 crime
bill. And the obvious result
would be that of course no one
wants to work in law enforcement
anymore. Rich people will have
private security forces pile of
private police forces protecting
their their gated communities
and their neighborhoods and the
poor people they'll get drones
and cameras and and here we go.
Unknown: Here we go this
morning. What looks like a sci
fi film it will soon be reality
on the streets of New York, the
NYPD and Mayor welcoming Digi
dog and K five the city's new
crime fighting robots. I've
never seen something like that
in real life. The robot dogs
were dismissed by the previous
administration due to financial
cutbacks and fears of aggressive
policing.
I am going to use technology
with transparency to keep this
city safe. And others just don't
we're unwilling to do that and I
am to allay
fears the public has been
assured the robots won't be used
for routine patrol.
This is a life saving device is
going to be used for hostage
situations, bomb threats,
counterterrorism situations.
The department also plans to add
this AR two d two looking robot
named K five equipped with
cameras and emergency help
buttons and the star Chase
system. Deploy from a gun
looking device it sticks to
vehicles and uses GPS to track
fleeing cars. New York isn't the
only city interested in robots
to fight crime to San Francisco
may revisit the idea after it
was put on hold last year. The
proposal was to use lethally
armed robots when dealing with
violence suspects, supporters
say they're safer than humans.
But the public still has
concerns about control and about
artificial intelligence getting
too powerful. And then there's
this Oh, look at the New York
City streets. As for the price
tag, the NYPD bought those two
robot dogs for $750,000.
Adam Curry: I love it. I love
the darn member.
John C Dvorak: You remember
during COVID and the child in
China they got these really
aggressive dogs telling people
to get off the street ever the
videos of that? Yeah, get off
the straight dog with a micro
with a megaphone on it. Well,
here
Adam Curry: it is. It's in New
York City and and the mayor's
gonna use it. It makes sense.
Well, there's more going on in
New York because we have another
position filled
Unknown: New York City has hired
its first rat czar she promises
to address the spike in the road
in population. Kathleen karate
was chosen from 900 applicants
nationwide to city asking for
someone with determination and
quote Killer Instinct previously
spearheaded an effort to fight
rats in city schools. She said
rats are tough, but New Yorkers
are tougher. She will be paid
$155,000 a year. A rat.
John C Dvorak: What's she
supposed to do? Go out and kill
rats herself?
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, she's a
rat czar.
John C Dvorak: What is she gonna
do?
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
don't know. I don't know, man.
To rat czar.
John C Dvorak: I love rat lab, a
clip from a TV show about New
York. Okay. Which will I'm like
be my last clip. Okay. This is
from. This is from one of the
FBI shows. And by the way, the
FBI. Just this last, this last
round of FBI shows FBI
International. The FBI is now in
London. And they're
investigating some attack a
Muslim attack on a woman who
didn't have a hijab on in some
part of the job. A job. She
wasn't wearing the right veil in
London in some Arab part of town
and she got an acid thrown on
her and so no, because the
London or London Police don't
know what they're doing. So we
had to bring our FBI was called
in to London to London to solve
this priority, love this show.
So that's FBI International. So
they have three of these shows
as FBI FBI Most Wanted, which is
basically the same as this.
Adam Curry: This is some kind of
brainwashing How does FBI
international even exist? They
are the Federal Bureau of
Investigation, not the
International Bureau of
Investigation.
John C Dvorak: You think they're
Interpol? Yeah. I have no idea
why they wouldn't do why nobody
calls them out on this is
bullcrap. Alright. So this is
from FBI most wanted and Dylan
McDermott is the guy then in
this show, and he's just a mean,
FBI guy. So he's yelling at
people. So he I'm just gonna set
it up. But here's what you're
going to hear. You're going to
hear the moment where the where
I leave off, which is we have
some maniac killing Asians in
central a central part all
throughout the city. And two
guys are walking along and they
see this guy beating the crap
out of some poor Asian guy. And
he's Asian too. They're all they
everyone's Asian, except for the
Adam Curry: the other player,
Chinese, Vietnamese, Asian,
John C Dvorak: I think was
Vietnamese. Okay. beaten up
another Vietnamese. And so these
two guys are there and they say,
Hey, what are you doing? And the
guy the Asian guy beaten up the
other guy pulls out a gun and
takes a couple of shots at these
two guys. One of the guys great
he happens to have a gun he
pulls it out and shoots out the
guy and the guy runs off of what
kind of want to use a gun for
Adam Curry: FBI shoots and
misses
John C Dvorak: not our
childcare. Let's start over
since you didn't hear right what
I said. Vietnamese guy beaten
another Vietnamese. Two
bystanders are walking through
Central Park and they catch the
guy and they yell Hey, hey, stop
it. The guy pulls a gun on him
and takes a couple of shots that
one of the two bystanders grabs
his gun shoots at this Asian guy
stopped him from shooting it
damn probably saves both their
lives in the process.
Accidentally wings some woman
standing there who is I guess
just standing there for no good
reason. But you know doesn't
kill it. Just Windsor. And
that's that's that. So Dylan
McDermott, the FBI like 10
minutes later, 20 minutes later
come in. And then they call this
guy aside who shot at the bad
guy and make his life miserable.
And here we go.
Unknown: You think this is the
same guy who shot up the temple
earlier today? looking that way
in the timeline matches. It's
about a half hour from Mount
Vernon to the city.
Where can we find this visual?
Only? The guy you traced. You
see his face? No, like I told
the cops It all happened so
fast. We were running. Plus he
had a mask on was it clear
plastic? Yeah, kinda. What am I
getting my gun back? How about
never I have a permit well then
you should know Central Park is
a no carry zone. They passed the
law this summer. Yeah, and crap
like this happens all the time
because people stand by and do
nothing. I saved a lot of lives
today to live to the Juilliard
girl. The religious Mr. left
lung you know aged in hate
crimes have quadrupled this last
year. You guys need to do your
jobs. We all know when it gets
harder when it hits like you're
trying to play cops and robbers
that's the thanks again.
John C Dvorak: So you roughed
him up? The FBI guy roughs up
this poor dude is great. This is
television. Just a brainwashing
we're stuck with Hollywood.
Adam Curry: Well Wow, well, it's
pre bunking, man, it's pre
bunking. So good. I am fine.
Thank you so much for being with
us. Thank you for supporting us
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Let's be safe out there
everybody. You never know. Never
know what might happen. Be
careful, those pronouns can hurt
you. Coming up next or no agenda
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everybody. I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where I remain
on Johnson Warren we return
Adam Curry: on Sunday right here
on no agenda until then adios
mofos a hui Hui, and such
Unknown: fell in love with
Larissa and Claire. They had a
steamy level thing. Obama and
Larissa and Claire had a theme
in love. Oh, mama and Larry sang
a Stevie love affair. Larry
looked into the Obama the mack
daddy put a spell on Obama to
mack daddy you're just my style
and my cash. Or you look like
just my man woman and half
whatever looks to look like
Obama had a steaming lover in
the back of a limo and then at
the Holiday Inn. They had a
scene in London All right my
friends all right. All hell is
gonna break loose and you're
gonna need a Bitcoin
John C Dvorak: What is this
nostril you keep talking about
Adam Curry: it's like Twitter on
meth it's a set of technologies
intelligent nostril is is like
competitor like gab No,
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like nostril there is no last
for my RSS RSSL twos or threes
because as I see I follow AC
since he came back from the
future my always must be signed
up all his latest check me find
an exit strategy donate, donate,
donate and he goes I'll sign up
I'll sign up I'll sign up below
his be cutting edge cutting edge
cutting edge because he's the
father or father or father or
grandpa supporting the podcast
to the point there is no message
he won't boss sad sent from my
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John C Dvorak: it on now
Adam Curry: Oh, cool. I'm gonna
go to noster
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days go donates. value or value
for value. You'll always be able
to snag take us back a track if
you don't get some value for
value or value. Don't forget to
call John see he has podcasts.
breadbasket bison Sue BTC a
soccer ball for up to his do.
Adam Curry: It's like Twitter on
Miss Adam edge nogen social.com,
burps and farts. It's all over
the place. I'm John C. Dvorak at
no agenda. social.com I'm also
on noster
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there