June 22nd, 2023 • 3h 4m
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Adam Curry: Live, Adam curry
Jhansi Tavares say June 22 2023
This is your award winning
combination media assassination
episode 1566. This
Unknown: is no agenda looking
over
Adam Curry: here, not over there
and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas hill country
here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where I'm
wondering, When did Chloe Moretz
become Chloe Grace Moretz, um,
Genesee Dvorak?
Adam Curry: Wow. A riddle this
early on in the show. A riddle
who is Chloe Moretz.
John C Dvorak: chloro go nuts.
Chloe Grace. Marissa, who is
that? She's an actress she's
she's very if you saw or you
know who she was. She was on the
Today Show. Our three this
morning I was watching as eating
as I was eating breakfast.
Adam Curry: More interesting
would be watching your show
John C Dvorak: ever?
Adam Curry: Well, you know, as
we are rewatching friends, as we
do from time to time, we noticed
the moment when Courtney Cox
Bitcoin became Courtney Cox Once
you marry and I forgot. Why are
we even talking about this?
John C Dvorak: You I just
mentioned it as an opener. i
Adam Curry: What? What did you
have for breakfast? I was going
for breakfast is more
interesting.
John C Dvorak: I had a pancake
and an egg on top. Grand Slam
star
Adam Curry: truckers truckstop
breakfast I love that.
Excellent. Well good then you're
ready for it
yeah, this has got to be the
biggest distraction of the week.
Everybody falling for it the
most emailed articles the most
emailed and posted theories and
you even participated at some
point. No, yes you did on no
agenda social. It did. Yes. You
did. You're like yeah, that was
my thought. Like they probably
it's probably hit job on
somebody's
John C Dvorak: job guy. Yeah,
job. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Pakistani
billionaire. Yeah,
Adam Curry: it's the sub
Unknown: back in 2018. Industry
experts expressed concern about
the Titan sub in a letter
addressed to stock did rush, the
CEO of ocean gate, which
operates the sub. In that letter
obtained by the New York Times
and later authenticated by ABC
News. The Marine technology
society warned of potentially
catastrophic problems with the
Titans development that could
have serious consequences. The
group insisted on oversight from
a third party organization,
there has been a lot of
headlines calling this a tourist
hub. This is not a tourist hub.
It must be understood this as an
experimental craft, and that
there are significant risks
attached to it. hemper says
after the letter was leaked,
ocean gate CEO made changes he
made it more clear that it's an
expeditionary or a experimental
aircraft. Meanwhile, many
observers have been surprised to
learn the vessel is steered
using a video game controller.
But that does not concern
experts few people
are aware of is that the unit US
military has happily embraced
this kind of technology. We are
operating drones. We are firing
lasers and operating periscopes
on US Navy submarines using
similar technology.
Adam Curry: I love the story.
This is the story. Everybody
wants. Oh yeah, man. I mean,
this is why we all watch space
launches. That we want to see
him die. Come on, man. Listen,
we want to help me now. It will
be very NASCAR theory. Yes.
It'll be very unsatisfactory. If
we're not if we're not pulling
dead bodies out of a sub
depleted of air. That's what we
want. The whole world is
captured by it.
John C Dvorak: It's almost I had
no in the mind of ever
discussing this story. But I'm
glad you did. i By the way, it
was only brought into it as a
response to somebody mentioning
my thesis.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but I mean,
you engage man. You engaged in
the distraction of the century
Game
John C Dvorak: Controller aspect
of this is the funniest part.
Yeah, this
Adam Curry: show is run on a
game controller. What are people
talking about?
John C Dvorak: Everything is
it's a great product.
Adam Curry: Yes. We love it. The
member when where's the data
glove? Bring the day the glove
back. I love that thing.
Remember, people were hacking
the data glove from Nintendo.
Remember that thing? That was?
Wow, that thing was
John C Dvorak: cool. You have
one?
Adam Curry: I have some I had
one at some point. Definitely.
Definitely. Oh, I thought that
thing was the best.
John C Dvorak: You know my
favorite thing about this story
is the people coming out of the
woodwork to talk about how
dangerous this is. And my
favorite guy. Was was some
character says All it needs is
it Nick in the hall? And it'll
collapse on itself.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's what
we're all waiting for. And I
love the we heard we heard
knocking here we heard knocking
with one of our probes that we
can't find it. I mean, I had
this
John C Dvorak: supposedly
somebody heard knocking from an
airplane, what was that?
Adam Curry: They dropped a
probe, they dropped a probe. And
then they said, probe, the same
probe, they dropped a blow to
Nord Stream pipeline. Okay, so
that was one story. But the next
story, this I love this story.
We've been tracking it, we've
been tracking everything from
fake meat to the new cell, cell
based meat, which is this
ghastly idea of extracting cells
from an animal, presumably a
chicken or chicken egg, and then
growing meat in in the big vat,
and then serving that as like
growing bacteria. Yes, growing
cells like cancer cells. So the
USDA, not
John C Dvorak: the order he used
guar.
Adam Curry: Explain gwrc.
Everyone knows what it is.
John C Dvorak: It's a biscuit
goo that you put in the bottom
of the petri dish to
Adam Curry: morrow to mold stuff
they mined. So I'm thinking so
the USDA approved the use of
this approve this. Now, that's
not the FDA, the Food and Drug
Administration, but the USDA
approved it. So it now can go
into some restaurants. And
there's a whole new marketing
tactic behind it. And I just
have to go through this because
that I mean, there's money
behind this, their scripts
behind this. It's identical
scripts. You're allowed to me to
do a variation, if you will. But
of course, initially, this was
climate change. We need to move
to protein and soy based meat,
because cow farts are killing
the world. According to Greta, I
think was yesterday was five
years since the world would be
expire, thanks to her tweet.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she said
that the world would come to an
end yesterday. Yeah. And we're
not doing that with GM. She
didn't say this yesterday. She
said it five years ago, he
predicted it was going to
Adam Curry: come to an end, but
it would be pretty much however,
yeah, it'd be hell. So ABC, who
of course get paid the most
money. And let's see if you can
figure out what the key is in
the support. And then I have
three other really short ones.
And then I have the the mega
native ad from NPR.
Unknown: This morning, the USDA
for the first time has approved
lab grown meat to be sold to the
public. So that's where it all
starts just a few cells to
cultivated meat producers now
getting the green light to begin
commercially selling their
chicken products. Lab grown meat
is created using cells from
living animals such as
fertilized eggs, which was then
incubated and grown into large
masses of meat and the stainless
mass bio reactors. ABCs Devin
Dwyer recently got a tour of
California based upside foods
where meat is cultivated, you're
making chicken in there. Yeah.
So
if you look at this, this is a
approximately a 200 plus liter
tank. And we take cells from a
chicken or egg takes two weeks
to grow the equivalent of one
chicken 1000 chickens or 100,000
chickens. So you're saying that
this factory you can make more
meat faster and cleaner than an
average farmer? Well,
ultimately, yes,
the company says lab grown meat
could be instrumental in helping
feed the world's growing
population as meat demand rises,
while using a fraction of the
land and water of animal farming
helping to reduce greenhouse gas
emissions. Critics argue it's no
silver bullet with the potential
for major socio economic
implications and questions about
how the meat is labeled. Many
experts say more study is needed
more research and just caution I
think that a lot of companies
are going to use or present the
best case scenarios
as for how the lab grown chicken
tastes
alright, my first bite
cultivated me
Adam Curry: chicken Yeah, okay,
so the payoff is the same for
everybody. Oh, it tastes like
chicken. But did you catch the
the new marketing the new
marketing that they're using?
But no, not really. You take it
from living animals. Not you
don't kill an animal. living
animals.
Unknown: The age of lab grown
meat has arrived in this
country. The Agriculture
Department just approved to
California companies to sell
chicken grown in steel tanks
using cells that come from an
animal egg or a special bank of
stored cells. To sell cultivated
chicken will first be available
at a restaurant in San Francisco
and another one in Washington DC
owned by famed chef Jose on
today's before hitting stores
now
Adam Curry: CBS didn't get any
money. They didn't they didn't
use the script. Do you know that
Chef by the way, the famed chef
he's a famous chef. Okay, well
he needs to be checked off the
list. He's no good. No. I think
all the fox affiliates they got
the they got the ad by the first
time
Unknown: you as regulators
approved this als chicken made
from animal cells. It allows two
California companies to offer
lab grown meat to restaurants.
The cultivated meat is grown in
steel tanks using cells that
come from a living animal, a
fertilized egg or a special bank
of stored
Adam Curry: cells, a living
animal and this fox affiliate
took it one step further.
Unknown: The US Department of
Agriculture has approved the
sale of chicken made from animal
cells so cultivated
or cultured meat as it's been
called as grown in steel tanks
using cells that come from a
living animal comes on and
sheets and cut to mimic real
meat they say to California
companies, upside foods and good
meats have raised to be the
first in the US to sell meat
that
doesn't come from slaughtered
animals.
Adam Curry: Oh, nice variation,
not from slaughtered animals. So
you could only imagine the the
bubbly women at NPR we just have
a field day with this one. That
NPR has slid so far downhill is
it's a this is something you'd
expect from gimlet partly what
does it Spotify podcast?
John C Dvorak: If you think
you're just noticing that this
has been going on for a decade I
Adam Curry: know you have you
have actually accentuated this
in recent shows with these these
women dingbats? Yes, I hate to
say it but they're dingbats
indeed
Unknown: US Department of
Agriculture.
Adam Curry: She'll start off
just we've got to analyze this
she starts off serious and the
minute she's no she's getting to
the story. And to her, her
compatriot her
John C Dvorak: or her comedy
partner and comedy
Adam Curry: comedy partner, she
starts to get all jiggy with it.
Unknown: The US Department of
Agriculture has for the first
time in history given a green
light to two US companies to
sell meat that is grown directly
from animal cells without
slaughtering the animal to she
Adam Curry: got the slaughtering
the animal mean this is very
good. So she's read the the
required copy.
Unknown: Until recently it was
called lab grown meats and
scientists were developing it in
labs. Now though the labs have
been replaced by production
facilities that can grow 10s of
1000s of pounds of meat a year.
Rolla, Harris Allison Aubrey has
visited these companies and
tasted the meat and joins us
now.
Adam Curry: She's tasted the
Unknown: mean I'm really excited
now though the labs have been
replaced by production
facilities that can grow 10s of
1000s of pounds of meat a year.
And BRS Allison Aubrey has
visited these companies and
tasted the meat and joins us
now. Hey, Allison.
Adam Curry: Hi, there. Hi there.
Hey, Alison. Hi, there's time
from serious report.
Unknown: So Alison, what exactly
did the USDA approved today?
Well, for 1000s of years, eating
meat has meant slaughtering
animals slaughtering
Adam Curry: animals. You getting
them the marketing pitch here,
Unknown: but the scientists
behind the two companies that
received USDA clearance today
say that's no longer necessary.
Instead, they produce meat by
extracting cells from an
animal's body, then they feed
the cells and literally grow
meat in big stainless steel
tanks.
John C Dvorak: Does this sound
like he should be fired
immediately?
Adam Curry: Like Bill Nye the
Science Guy? Female Version? I
mean, yeah, I mean, they're just
jumping over this.
John C Dvorak: gushing is the
word. Thank you.
Unknown: Their production
facilities look like breweries
almost. But instead of beer,
they're brewing meats and buying
Adam Curry: meat. Oh, yes, this
is so she's a science editor. I
miss it because she's really
doing a good job to speak.
Unknown: I do not know how I
feel about that. But okay, let's
go on here. Hearing about me for
a long time. Now. I mean, a lot
of us have eaten our fair share
of veggie burgers. Burgers over
the years. But what makes this
different? What makes is
this is nothing like the
Impossible Burger or,
Adam Curry: Oh, John. Did you
know that this is nothing like
the Impossible Burger?
Unknown: ossible burgers over
the years. But what makes us
different.
This is nothing like the
Impossible Burger or a veggie
burger, which are made from
vegetable proteins of soy,
potato protein and a bunch of
other ingredients that are mixed
together mystery ingredients
that tastes like meat. What's
approved for sale today actually
is meat.
Adam Curry: Oh, it's Oh, it
actually is meat. Oh, okay. I'm
happy to know that this stuff
you grew in, have you brewed you
brewed this meat and it's
actually me three
Unknown: hands that are mixed
together to taste like meat.
What's approved for sale today
actually is meat. When I said
foods which is headquartered in
Berkeley, they prepared their
chicken which is grown directly
from chicken cells. It's more
than 99% Chicken cells. It was
pan
Adam Curry: their secret
ingredient and
Unknown: a lovely buttery wine
sauce. Oh
Adam Curry: John. Oh, she got
duped. They put this hunk of
celcom cultured precancerous goo
into a lovely, lovely buttery
wine saw sluggard
Unknown: in Berkeley, they
prepared their chicken which is
grown directly from chicken
cells. It's more than 99%
Chicken cells. It was pan seared
and a kind of lovely buttery
wine sauce.
I mean, Alison, you're kind of
burying the lede here. How did
it taste? How was it?
You know, I think almost
anything cooked in butter and
wine probably tastes good. What
did impress me is the texture.
They've basically replicated the
texture of chicken breast. I
told the CEO of upside foods,
uma valetti. Hey, it tastes just
like chicken. Oh, this
Adam Curry: is this. Everyone's
got the great line tastes just
like chicken. And this guy. I
mean, are we sure that he's
actually the chicken growing
guy, or is he the guy from
Google? I don't know.
Unknown: It is chicken. It's
just chicken growing.
Adam Curry: Google, like Sundar
Pichai. He's moonlighting as the
chicken guy. I'm telling you,
Unknown: it is chicken. It's
just chicken grown directly from
animal cells in a different way.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: it is. Right
there. It's
Unknown: a lie. It is not
chicken.
John C Dvorak: It's not chicken.
It's a tumor. What they're doing
is growing tumors. Well, at
least I have the texture was it
not a tumor?
Adam Curry: I'm in agreeance was
rebranded.
John C Dvorak: Right, get it get
it out of the way rebranded
quick chicken tumor tumors.
Adam Curry: Just plain old
tumors. tumors in want tonight
we have tumors to
John C Dvorak: butters and wine
and butter into buttery.
Unknown: It is chicken is just
chicken grown directly from
animal cells in a different way
in a very clean controlled
environment.
Oh no. Dr. valetti is a cardio
that's also
Adam Curry: interesting how they
do it's clean, clean environment
not did it mainly mainly makes
you think of chicken poop. nasty
ass chickens walking around. I
mean, this is actually a oh, I
should have played the jingle.
feel bad about it. This is a war
on chicken.
John C Dvorak: We had to work on
chicken before remember. Yeah.
But yeah. We have a jingle.
Unknown: Yeah, here it is.
Here's the jingle
on chicken.
Adam Curry: We predicted this
years ago that this would happen
years ago. years ago. It's
Unknown: just chicken grown
directly from animal cells in a
different way in a very clean
controlled environment.
John C Dvorak: Now Dr. valetti
Russia. Yeah, sure. So these
journalists does and you've
you've already given us ABC,
CBS, NBC. Now we're on NPR.
There's one journalist anywhere,
say to that guy. Is there
anything else besides chicken?
You can grow like beef or
buffalo or, or Yak, or dinosaurs
or anything? Is there any other
thing you can grow besides
chicken? Can
Adam Curry: we go woolly
mammoth? We I think we have a
woolly mammoth.
John C Dvorak: Did anyone ask
that simple question. That would
be the first thing I'd ask
Adam Curry: it. It wasn't asked
per se but it came up as kind of
a toss away at the end of this
report. My question would be,
can we grow human meat for
consumption? I hear human meat.
Delicious. Delicious
Unknown: is good. What did
impress me is the texture
they've basically replicated the
texture with
just chicken grown directly from
animal cells in a different way
in a very clean controlled
environment.
Now, Dr. valetti is a
cardiologist who became a
vegetarian but he loves the
taste of meat. And he thinks
this is a better way to produce
meat one that could be better
for the environment. And as the
son of a veterinarian, he likes
the idea of sparing animals
lives.
Oh, don't kill the chicken.
Okay, so where can people buy it
or get a taste of
it? Right now don't expect to
see it in grocery stores. To
start out both companies have
kind of teamed up with famous
chefs upside foods is working
with Chef Dominique Crenn, a
Michelin starred chef in San
Francisco and good meat. The
other company that got clearance
today has partnered with
megastar Jose Andres
Adam Curry: who will yeah you
know these guys?
John C Dvorak: Well, this she
she mentioned Dominique Crenn.
Yeah. Which is Corinne Atal Lea.
The most expensive restaurant or
one of them. Definitely in San
Francisco but in the world.
Yeah. Yeah, she's she bought
into this. She must not be
making this mistake. Even.
Despite her ridiculously high
prices that are restaurants she
must be losing her ass. Do this.
Well, I mean, reputation ruined
her juice. Now cooking tumors
Unknown: serve cultivated
chicken at one of his
restaurants.
I mean, so why should people
want this what is wrong with the
way that meats produced today?
Oh, now this
is an in depth question. It
depends on who you ask. So
traditional meat industry says
the status quo is efficient, but
meat production has a big
environmental footprint. I
talked about Bruce Friedrich who
heads the nonprofit Good Food
Institute he investments in
protein alternatives and says
there are more than 150
companies working to bring
cultivated meat and seafood to
market
Adam Curry: so she interviewed a
guy who has investments in
alternative food for some for
some free standing advice which
would not be influenced by
anything these people are
Unknown: working on the global
demand for meat is expected to
double by 2050
did me gives consumers
everything that they liked about
me, but it requires a fraction
of the land requires
significantly less water and
now it remains to be seen
whether cultivated meat
production can lower
Adam Curry: that guy's that
guy's got to get with the
program. He is missing the boat
instead of it's no longer about
climate change, buddy. It's no
longer about that. It's about
not killing animals not
slaughtering animals. In fact,
the title which was
disappointing that didn't use
the term the title of the NPR
report was no kill meat
Unknown: greenhouse gas
emissions from producing meat
but what is clear is that now
that cultivated meat is approved
for sale it is no longer science
fiction, people will get a
chance to taste it.
All right, that is NPR is
Allison. Aubrey, thank you so
much.
Adam Curry: Thank you. Great to
be here. Great to be here. Thank
you. Okay. So I'll then I'll
shut up. So while everyone was
distracted by no kill meat and
brewing meat, massive question,
yeah.
John C Dvorak: If you're a vegan
How do you take this
philosophically?
Adam Curry: I think it's okay,
because you're not killing the
animal.
John C Dvorak: I don't think
what if you Yeah, I'm not I
don't think that's the point of
veganism.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but maybe we
can grab the vegans as well.
What
John C Dvorak: about vegetarian
if you're okay to forget the
vegan Cisco's vegetarians?
vegetarians don't eat meat
because it's it has anything to
do with killing animals that I
know Oh, yes.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Say
John C Dvorak: like vegetables.
Adam Curry: Right? But is the
vegetarian is really about the
killing of animals. I mean, I
don't know I think
John C Dvorak: veganism isn't
it? No, I
Adam Curry: think I don't know.
I I I love meat I love and I'm
like too crazy about chicken
because you know, unless I get
one from local from someone's
backyard. Yeah. Viable Product.
It is a terrible product. So
it's most vicious terrible these
days, too. We eat beef. But now
we have no no brewing. It'll be
even a better slogan brewing
beef. Get on it, people will
start to brew some beef. So
anyway, all of this was
distraction. Hahaha fantastic
submarine brewing meat.
Meanwhile, the elites of the
world, including our leaders,
were literally dividing up the
spoils of war in Ukraine. And I
looked into
John C Dvorak: this they had a
meeting already about re how
they're going to rebuild who's
gonna get what contract and oh,
yeah, it's not even over.
Adam Curry: Oh, no. But this
thing has been going on for six
years. I'll explain first now
this is the report that got me
interested TRT there's the
Turkish radio and television
report.
Unknown: Billions of dollars
have already been pledged to
supply and train Ukraine's
military. But attention is now
turning to Ukraine's
reconstruction. The British are
hosting a Ukraine recovery
conference in London this week.
He was Secretary Antony Blinken
arrived on Tuesday, over 60
countries will be represented.
President Biden said from the
outset of Russia's aggression
against Ukraine that we would
stand with Ukraine for as long
as it takes. And both of our
countries are deeply committed
to that we will continue to
deliver on that commitment,
including through a new robust
US assistance package that I'll
be able to announce tomorrow.
On Tuesday, the EU Commission
announced another $54 billion
for the next four years.
This includes both loans and
grants. The Preserve will
provide first of all perspective
for our partners in Ukraine.
And it should also incentivize
other donors to step up to the
World Bank says Ukraine will
need 400 billion to rebuild the
same as Germany after World War
Two, a huge task that will need
efficient coordination and
private sector investment. And
that will require reassurance
about kyiv's commitment to
reform and fight
Adam Curry: corruption. So he
kind of gave it away there. This
used to be called the Ukraine
reform Conference, which started
in 2017. That was the first one
is held in in the UK. And they
changed that last year into the
Ukraine recovery conference, you
could keep the same acronym the
same logos. They just replaced
the word reform with recovery.
You and I looked at the program
and I watch the videos and it
makes no sense to listen to
them. They are talking about
import export taxes taxation on
agriculture companies they're
the soil contracts they're
dividing this entire country up
amongst themselves with your
with our money. Oh yeah, no this
is we have a grants and loans
and all this stuff. Oh yes, it's
gonna be and it's all about
building back better I kid you
not restoring livelihood. They
don't care about Ukrainian
people how many we need to get
more workers back there to
exploit the soil if this is big
agriculture in a massive way.
And then we've got BlackRock and
JP Morgan, they will be handling
the recovery bank. Well, what
could possibly go wrong with
that? to it, this is
unbelievable. No, it's I totally
believable, but no one was
really reporting on this.
There's not a lot of us news
about this reporting on it now.
Not even not even UK NEWS. And
everyone was their queen Ursula
Blinken and I even Prince
Charles
Unknown: at Kings welcome for
Ukraine's Prime Minister Denis
Shamal. as world leaders and
foreign ministers line up behind
yes, we're in this together.
We're in this together says the
head of the EU Commission ocean
of underlying together account
how much and exactly who
Adam Curry: says there's
bullcrap we're in this together
get taken our money, giving it
to contractors, the contractor?
Speech it, it's crazy. It's
every single big agriculture
company, you can think of all
the banks, they are dividing. I
think at this point, let's just
keep the war going until we've
got all the agreements signed. I
mean, it's like, just what do
you think they're doing? Well, I
didn't I didn't realize that
they were just I mean, now I do.
I mean, we're seeing that
they're fighting over 50 meters
of turf.
John C Dvorak: no agreement on
that yet.
Adam Curry: No, that's
unimportant. They don't care
about that. It's about all the
big agricultural land and the
financing sector and I guess
they'll have a tax free haven
for tech goodbye Ireland's
together. We're in
Unknown: this together, says the
head of the EU Commission,
Ursula von der Leyen put
together to work out how much
and exactly who's paying for the
cost of repair and
reconstruction for a nation
still at war. before they
arrive, they were sent a clear
pitch from Ukraine's president
and his nightly address,
meets the non green rebuilt
Ukraine and transformed Ukraine
a strengthened Ukraine is a
security carrier and a security
guarantor, Woodlands protection
against any form of Russian
terror and protection against
any repetition of Russian
aggression is after
the devastation from 483 days of
conflict is clear across the
country. The World Bank says
Ukraine's reparation effort
could cost around $400 billion
over the next decade. But that
estimate was before the counter
offensive. Oh meanie mark, and
the sudden destruction of the
dam. And with Russia still
targeting infrastructure.
Analysts say the final bill
could be over a trillion
dollars.
Adam Curry: Why did they blow up
the dam so we can pay people to
go and rebuild it. Of course,
this is the rubble lie strategy.
The Jackals are out time to
build build build
Unknown: better for the US and
UK. It was a joint message for
countries to dig deep
ensure, as teams, independent
nation demands not only
providing security, but also for
its economy, its democracy, and
its full integration in Europe.
key to the success of the
pledging conference will be how
to guarantee that Ukraine is a
place to invest in the future.
The niceties in a country with
endemic problems of corruption
and a possibility of a conflict
lasting years. Thereafter, the
billions already spent arming
the defense of a nation leaders
are looking ahead to peacetime
Ukraine to ensure legacy their
health wasn't for nothing.
Adam Curry: No, listen to that.
Listen to that music. It played
that music. Yeah, I was the guy
in Oregon grinder with a monkey
on his shoulder outside of the
conference. Oh, yeah. If you
look at all these things, all
it's about tax tax tax, you
know, of course, we want a place
where we can, you know, put our
our cheap workers, the ones we
haven't replaced with AI. You
know, customer help, you know,
customer service people, I
guess. And we want to know, tax,
we want to be able to put our
banking there so that there's no
tax on taxes go
John C Dvorak: in there. Yeah.
You know, I think they did it.
What they did is identified
Ukraine, by the way, people have
to always realize Ukraine is not
a hole in the wall. It's a huge
country, in the entire country
of France and German combined, I
think yeah, it's big. It's huge.
It's massive, and it's largely
agriculture. Cultural and it
says Dad to look at and go.
Because I when I was in
Slovenia, I can notice the same
thing in the wine growing areas
like these guys are ripe to be
plucked, because they like
they're old fashioned. They do
things on small scales and lots
of them. Just this, how will
that get rid of everything
they're doing it we'll just move
our big ag in Europe and we can,
you know, feed the world from
Ukraine.
Adam Curry: That's what Ukraine
was doing your investment
opportunities and de risking
mechanisms to mobilize private
finance in Ukraine. This, this
will not go over in a country
that's wrought with war. I will
point out this session will
review approaches to attract
private capital at scale into
priority projects and sectors of
Ukraine's economy. It will
showcase investment
opportunities in Ukraine now and
in the future. And because they
know the future and the
availability of support from the
Government of Ukraine and
international partners to de
risk projects in the form of
concessional finance or finance,
what does that mean
concessional? I think that means
in that case, we have to look it
up, concessional. Let me see
definition of concession
concessional I think conceding,
conceding something such as a
point previously claimed that is
later conceded. Oh, no. So
that's like money that the show
the rip off, it's clearly a rip
off
John C Dvorak: different kinds
of rip off that road familiar
with obviously.
Adam Curry: We're not going to
get any of that. Where was it
not?
John C Dvorak: Oh, by the way,
in your point about goodbye,
Ireland. Yeah. Not only that,
but no and no offense to the
Irish. We have a lot of Irish
listeners and they're sharp but
the Ukraine people. They're
they're always been into high
tech. That's perfect for to move
tech, tax free tech into Ukraine
and then exploit their cheap
coders. Well, here
Adam Curry: it is. Tech for
transformation, digital
excellence and strengthening
partnerships. This session will
showcase Ukraine's Ukraine's
digital transformation and
vision for the future, which
they already know, the
resilience of the Ukrainian tech
sector and the opportunities for
international partnerships with
this growing sector that you're
absolutely right. How about this
one power of transformation,
building back better in the
energy sector. Building back
resilient, efficient,
decentralized and clean energy
system will be crucial to
Ukraine's economic
revitalization and long term
growth. The Government of
Ukraine will present the
recently adopted energy to 2050
strategy panelists will discuss
how to best mobilize
international support. That's
our tax money, and enable
private investment grift to
support Ukraine's long term
vision for recovery and
transformation. These efforts
are divvying it all up right
under our noses. right under our
noses has been going on since
2017. At least things take time.
Well, they do. And they're
patient. But they're all They're
all of them are there including
the big bankers, all the prime
ministers, all the foreign
ministers, everybody's there.
And I love this. If you go to
Twitter, or any social media
site, but let's just take
Twitter, I'll do this. I'll do
it live. And you type in as a
citizen arming Ukraine, those
are the words needed to type in,
I will read the first hits I get
here. As a German citizen, I
want to say that arming Ukraine
is the single best use of
taxpayer money for decades. My
only criticism is that the West
aren't sending enough fast
enough. Next one. As a citizen
of Ukraine, I want to say that
arming Ukraine is the single
best use of taxpayer money for
decades. My only criticism is
that the West aren't sending
enough fast enough. Next one, as
a Belgian citizen, I want to say
that arming Ukraine is the
single best use of taxpayer
money for decades. My only
criticism is the West aren't
sending enough fast enough. As a
Czech citizen, I want to I mean,
it goes on and on and on. As a
French citizen, same thing. It's
all boilerplate, boilerplate,
all astroturf, all with Ukraine
flags and and blue and yellow
hearts. In the in the profile as
a European citizen, I want to
say that arming Ukraine is the
single best use of taxpayer
money for decades.
John C Dvorak: Wow. Yeah, these
guys are very good. They need
AI.
Adam Curry: And, and some of
these have blue checks. So so
much for your system, Elon, or
Elon? Musk. So and then this odd
and interesting thing that
happened. Remember Oryx, that
general former General Chris All
McChrystal was boasting about
the Dutch Belgian open source
crowd sourcing that vaguely that
we, you know, maybe I should
just play it crystal How do I
spell McChrystal? How come I
can't find what how do I spell
McChrystal?
John C Dvorak: m as m is C H
there's a H in there. MCH MC is
m i think is MC MC knows EMS
wasn't Mecca see see H try that
Adam Curry: maybe it wasn't even
McChrystal EMPs MCC H Now I
study there. Well, you got to
take my word for it. So he was
saying that, you know, all all
about the war in Ukraine, maybe
if I do Stanley Stanley. I don't
know where this report was stand
lay. And he was saying he was so
proud of, of this open source
reporting. It was kind of like a
new belling cat and was called
Oryx and we went looking for the
for the website, and it's
literally like a horrible domain
name that you can't remember.
Well, they Alright, yeah, so
they also have a Twitter
account. And they were
immediately followed. They
hadn't posted much on the
Twitter account since for about
a couple of years, but now they
reactivated it. And here is the
post Dear all, I would hereby
like to inform you that I will
be ending orcs on October 1. I
originally started Oryx blog 10
years ago to cure my boredom.
Little did I know Oryx would
escalate into the all consuming
project that is today. Today.
All of us work on the articles
and lists in our free time. It's
not our job, we don't get paid.
Though I hoped our work would
one day lead to a job, no such
thing occurred, or it's just
doesn't make me happy anymore.
And continuing with it prevents
me from finding a happier place
in life. So now, I can see where
an open source project will end.
But why don't you end it now?
Why October? Why October 1. Wow.
John C Dvorak: Great. Yes.
Adam Curry: So yeah, I'm saying
walk. Yeah, something something
may be happening in October.
Maybe Maybe that's where it all
ends. They will or they order or
something or something happens
and they don't get it or they
didn't they should clearly
didn't get a renewal or someone
reneged. Someone didn't pay him.
That's what they're there for.
They're saying we get no money
for this. The contracts over in
October. I think that's what it
is. Contract. They didn't renew.
Yeah. Especially when you hear
that the Pentagon, again,
discovered another one of those
nasty accounting errors.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, they
just did keep. That's why they
better audit. The Pentagon.
Yeah, six point they can't keep
track of another 6 billion.
Adam Curry: It's amazing. I'm so
happy for Ukraine comes right in
time now that Blinken just said
oh, we got another bill hanging
around. He just He is big swing
and Dick over there. And in
London air. I got some money.
Let me throw another bill out
there no problem. So that's what
I mean by distraction of the
week and we're all looking at
submarines and we're all looking
at lab grown chicken meat,
brood. brood chicken. The elites
are literally dividing up the
spoils of war already. They know
they know that on our dime.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I
have more about that later. But
you seem to have a lot of
interesting topics too. So I
want you to jump in. Give us
some goods.
John C Dvorak: It's gone with
the flow.
Adam Curry: Yeah, baby. Yeah.
That's why I'm handing over the
flow to you.
John C Dvorak: So I'm going with
I got a bunch of Biden clips
again. Sorry about that I used
to do to screwball kick talk
clips.
Adam Curry: life just gets
better.
John C Dvorak: But I do have a
kind of a three parter on
digital currency. They brought
an expert on Oh, and I think
there's NTD and I thought it
would be worth listening to
these three clips. Because
there's they're all They're
educational or not exciting, but
they bring us at least because
you keep bringing it up.
Adam Curry: I do. Yes. I do.
Keep bringing it up. I thought
John C Dvorak: we'd at least get
some somebody that knew they
were talking about
Adam Curry: like me. So thanks.
John C Dvorak: No, there's
either pretty much on the same
wavelength but he's this guy's a
little different. But let's
start with the with the intro,
which is just a short intro to
the other two clips. The
International
Unknown: Monetary Fund is
working on a platform for
central bank digital currencies.
The managing director argues
that the digital currencies
shouldn't be fragmented by
nation What are the concerns
with the IMF pushing for digital
currency and to the business as
Don moss speaks to an expert in
this field
Adam Curry: now before you move
into your clips, interestingly
enough, I got the 36 second clip
from the IMF director, she was
not arguing she was stating a
fact. And I'll play that now
just for for color if we
Unknown: are to be successful.
CB DCS could not be fragmented
national propositions. To have
transactions more efficient and
fairer, we need systems that
connect countries. In other
words, we need interoperability.
And for this reason that the IMF
we are working hard on the
concept of a global cbdc
platform, to trade and to manage
risks and my colleague, to be as
Adrian will talk more about it
later.
Adam Curry: Yeah. So
interoperability of the central
bank, digital currencies. That's
what the IMF is talking about.
Yeah.
John C Dvorak: My comment is
that is this.
Adam Curry: I love it. I love
that you got some some experts
in on this.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so let's
talk about this. And the stuff
that we're trying to do with
this with this guy they bring in
the guy may not be any good, but
he seems like he sounds like he
has has a handle on it.
Unknown: And here with me as
Thomas Hogan, senior research
faculty at the American
Institute for Economic Research,
so the International Monetary
Fund wants a platform for its
central bank digital currencies.
Now, before we get into the pros
and cons, I just want you to
explain to me, what does it what
does it mean, exactly, to have a
global cbdc? Platform?
Yeah, that's right. It's a good
question. Because I think this
has been kind of misreported in
some of the articles that I've
seen online because of the lack
of clarity about what we mean by
platform. So sometimes, when we
talk about Central Bank, digital
currency, we mean, the the
platform is the currency itself.
Like, for example, if the US
were to introduce a cbdc, we
might call that the platform or
in Europe, if they're doing one,
maybe that cbdc is the platform.
But that's not really what we
mean here, we mean, a place
where people could trade
different currencies, different
CBDCs. So for example, I think
we can make a distinction, if
I'm an American traveling in
Europe, and there are some
stores that maybe accept US
dollars, maybe I go into a store
and I say, Hey, do you accept
dollars or euros? That's a
question of the currency itself,
not a question of the platform.
If they say they accept only
euros, then I have to say, Okay,
well, do you take a Visa card?
You know, or can I transfer from
my my debit card, where my bank
is going to switch from dollars
into Euros? Or do I personally
need to go to a bank and trade
physical dollars for physical
euros? You know, that question
of how to get from one currency
into the other is really what
they're talking about for the
platform here. The IMF itself is
not going to launch central bank
digital currency, just help
coordinate trade of different
types of currencies.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think I
agree with what he's saying.
That's I didn't think IMF was
actually was the clip itself had
the title. IMF says global
currency was like, No, that's
not what she said. Yeah, my
trading platform. Okay. Yeah,
that makes sense.
John C Dvorak: Just to clarify
it, you know, as it kind of
clarified, okay, so let's go to
part three, we'll be done.
Unknown: So what concerns comes
with is if there is any, yeah,
so
I am not concerned about the
platform itself. Like I said, I
don't think the IMF is really
going to have a lot of control
over that. And so they probably,
you know, won't have much
influence other than promoting
CBDCs. And that's really the
thing that I'm a little bit more
concerned about is that, you
know, the IMF is trying to
encourage countries to use CBDCs
in the United States or a bigger
country when we might not worry
about the government misusing
that. I mean, we should worry a
little bit in the United States,
but much more of a concern in
China, where the government is
using it to monitor all of their
citizens. So for a lot of the
countries that are trying to get
better capabilities, the IMF is
going to potentially be
equipping them with ways to
monitor their citizens and
control their citizens. And so
I'm a little bit worried about
that.
So you said in the US, we should
still be a little bit worried
about cbdc. Can you expand on
that?
Yeah, so the United States is
considering doing some kind of
central bank digital currency,
we haven't really committed to
anything. The US Federal
Reserve, the Central Bank of the
United States is studying how
they might implement a central
bank digital currency. But so
far, they they are not planning
to do one that would be directly
offered to us citizens. And so
that's a really important
distinction that almost all the
countries the plan is to have
individual citizens use it just
like they use regular currency.
But in the United States, the
Federal Reserve has said they
actually don't think that they
have Have the ability legally to
do that. All they could legally
do right now, as far as they're
currently saying is offered to
banks, which would then offer
some kind of digital currency to
the citizens, which is
essentially what they do. Now,
you know, the Fed already has a
digital system for for
coordinating bank payments and
having banks deposit money at
the Fed, making payments with
the Fed. And so having a central
bank, digital currency that's
only offered to the banking
system really wouldn't be much
different than we have now. But
there is some possibility that
they might change their policy
or that Congress might authorize
them to offer a central bank
digital currency directly to the
public. And if that happens,
then that'll be a lot different.
And I think we'll need to worry
about it a little bit more.
Adam Curry: I agree. I agree
that the Federal Reserve doesn't
have that can't do that legally,
what they are and Chris, you
mentioned in there, well, they
will Congress that I guess
Congress could change that they
have the right of
John C Dvorak: Congress hates
us.
Adam Curry: What the Fed is
launching next month is fed now.
And that's their that's so they
will be the direct clearing
house, it will go initially
through bank so you will get
your fed now account from your
bank. But you can pay I can pay
you directly. And we'll go
through the Fed now network and
the transaction costs will be
four cents per transaction no
matter what size it is, which is
it's kind of going to screw up
other systems. And we'll see.
We'll see where that goes. This
is interesting in the backdrop
of the SEC, basically clearing
out all shit coins, all these
man what they call an
unregistered securities, which I
agree with they are and then all
of a sudden, Blackrock last week
of this past week, registering
for a Bitcoin ETF. And this
magical exchange appears backed
by the Deutsche Bank and other
Wall Street banks called edX and
they're going to be an exchange.
So the in the Bitcoin, you know,
spiked like 10% on all this
news. I don't know there's some
it feels like there's something
going on, especially when Black
Rock enters it. See,
John C Dvorak: I don't know bad
actors.
Adam Curry: I don't think Black
Rock is a good actor, for sure.
For sure, we'll see. But yeah,
you don't need it to be a
central bank digital currency,
if you're doing the transfer and
the Fed. Now, their own material
says this is handy. Because if
we have another COVID Like
event, then we don't have to
wait for those pesky checks.
We'll just put it right into
your account. So it's the same
thing. And now that there's no
ceiling on the debt we're primed
we need another
John C Dvorak: didn't get pesky
checks. They got it straight
into their account.
Adam Curry: That's just telling
what they say. They're saying
that's it. That's their
marketing is if we ever need to
send out checks again then you
won't have to do that at all.
You just go straight into your
fed now account through your
bank. So I thought a lot of
those checks went I thought a
lot of the money went through
checks. I don't know
John C Dvorak: anyone who got a
check. Hey guys straight into
her account.
Adam Curry: She did. Christina
got one in Europe, mind you that
was in she's in Europe, and but
the stepdaughters got it got
checks. They didn't. They
didn't.
John C Dvorak: I don't know
anyone who got a check out here.
Adam Curry: Some trolls are
saying they got checks. Some
Some say they got to I didn't
get no check. I get no check.
Oh, I do Biden because then I
want to play some
counterprogramming to Biden.
John C Dvorak: Here's Biden in
California. This was like a
couple days ago.
Unknown: And I've toured many
sites across the country.
They're clearly show climate
changes is a genuine x is the
existential threat to humanity,
the existential threat to
humanity and maybe most
important, I've committed that
by 2020. We will have conserved
30% Of all the lands and waters
the United States has
jurisdiction over and
simultaneously reduce emissions
to blunt climate impacts.
Adam Curry: Did he say 2020?
Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Poor guy 2020
We're gonna have this these
changes
Adam Curry: going back in time.
Okay, great. Love it.
John C Dvorak: Now I got Biden
misspelled here in this clip
this bite does the Biden ramble.
It has a bunch of different
things in it
Unknown: and a cheer for
Missouri for each year for
Muslim athletes like Kareem
Abdul Jabbar I know I'm gonna
zip mispronouncing Congress Omar
word, Congresswoman Omar. There
you go. God love you. Another
Muslim. I'm not supposed to get
in trouble for saying this
project. Beautiful. Congressman,
where's Where's where's the
congressman? There you are.
Okay, so do you want a job man?
I appoint all those federal
judges but you know, thank you
for serving. I'm not kidding.
You want to come and make a
speech? Hush up, boy.
Adam Curry: Whoa, who do you say
that to? Some black guy a black
guy? No, he did not did not hush
up boy. Wow, was this was this
one of these things where he was
talking and called she a
dictator?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't
have that clip I wish well
here's
Adam Curry: I have the quick
Unknown: tonight a new
Flashpoint between the US and
China after President Biden
called China's President Xi a
dictator at a fundraising event.
China blasting the comments as
absurd and irresponsible.
Adam Curry: Yeah, call him a
dictator. Hmm, not good. Not
good.
John C Dvorak: That's what I got
here is I don't know if this is
the same as the California clip.
But is Biden in San Francisco.
Unknown: President Biden land in
Silicon Valley? Yes.
John C Dvorak: This is just a
rundown. Okay, President Mazal
play it.
Unknown: President Biden landed
in Silicon Valley yesterday and
announced a $600 million
national plan for climate
issues. Today. He met with tech
executives and people in the
industry to discuss artificial
intelligence including how to
seize its opportunity and manage
its risks.
My administration is committed
as committed to safeguarding
Americans rights and safety from
protecting privacy to addressing
bias and disinformation to
making sure AI systems are safe
before they are released. Yeah,
okay as the President Biden was
in San Francisco for his 2024
presidential campaign, he's also
visiting several locations in
the North Bay, including the
cities of Canfield and Larkspur,
a White House official said
Biden summit include experts
known for being outspoken on the
impact of AI on jobs, children,
bias and prejudice and the risks
posed by AI, if it isn't
properly regulated, and added
that quote, US government
agencies have ramped up their
authorities to protect Americans
from the risks posed by AI,
including fraud and
discrimination,
as I've said before, where we'll
see more technological change in
the next 10 years than we've
seen in the last 50 years. And
maybe beyond that,
according to the President's
schedule. Biden has a campaign
reception on Tuesday evening,
Adam Curry: I find this very
interesting, this rhetoric about
AI and, and the government
agencies are ramping up to
protect Silicon Valley, no
doubt. But also, I think this
Altman character, Sam Altman, I
think he's being positioned to
be the new Elon Musk. He's got a
lot of other things go on. He's
got like, fusion energy
projects, and he's doing all
these other things. You watch
this guy is going to be the new,
the new tech hero, as Elon
John C Dvorak: he doesn't have
the personality for it. I'll
just say flat out
Adam Curry: and Elon Musk does.
Yeah. No, Altman's Okay. Well,
it may fail, but I think they're
going to try this. Yeah. And you
know, and
Unknown: this, this,
John C Dvorak: like, just like
Zuckerberg, he's he's just an
app personality for anything
other than what he's doing.
Adam Curry: So RF, the number of
John C Dvorak: people in tech
over the years and watching it
from the get go, I will say
there's been so few, I mean, and
when they crop up, they're just
accolades go their way.
Everything goes their way me I
can go back to the days of
people like Chuck Peddle. Oh,
was Chuck Peddle Chuck pills ago
designed to 6502 chip, the
original chip used in the Apple
two computer and he was he was a
hell of a personality. You had
Steve Jobs to some extent
Wozniak has a personality
Adam Curry: bill. Gates had a
personality whether you like it
or not.
John C Dvorak: Bill Gates does
have a personality. And Ballmer
has a personality even though it
would nobody liked his
personality.
Adam Curry: All developers loved
him.
John C Dvorak: And Felipe Khan
was a suit. Yeah, remember? I
mean, he's gonna build kind of a
couple of empires out of
nothing. And he was in the
public eye but these guys could
speak they could do public
speaking and they could do all
these things. They weren't just
you know, reticent. No, jet. I
want to talk.
Adam Curry: Now. We'll see Sam
Altman talks. He's he goes on
all the podcasts and, and he
went and did his thing before
Congress. He was it was
interesting. It was full of
crap, but I know he's just all
I'm seeing is a lot of
businesses that have government
involvement and lying. Okay?
Just keep your eye on them. So
RFK Jr did a speech in New
Hampshire. And I want to play a
couple clips from it, because
he's taking a totally different
approach to running for
president. And of course, he is
blocked entirely whenever anyone
who's blocked by the mainstream
is always interesting to us.
After the the whole Rogan
challenge he, missy, you wonder
what is the headline? I had Los
Angeles Times Robert F. Kennedy
and the lies of the anti vaxxers
know. So that's kind of how
they're positioning
John C Dvorak: or if can make a
huge mistake.
Adam Curry: Well, if he could
get the you know what Trump did,
right? Is he because of all the
stuff he did? They gave him all
this attention, then I don't
think the mainstream will do
that for RFK. But RFK has
already said, Jr. has already
said, no, no, this election will
be one on podcast which I
John C Dvorak: I'm of the
opinion that in 2016 Even though
their podcast and that I don't
think the media scene was that
different? I kind of agree with
him. I think it to me because of
after Trump and and a few years
of Biden, the mainstream media
has, people are just looking
askance at it a lot more than
they did in 2016. And 2016. They
did to it a little bit, but not
like this, that people just
don't believe these. Yes. Media
is in a downward spiral.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And with
almost no ratings and be no
one's watching it. So I think
the if, if if true, then his
breakthrough was probably Rogan,
although that also brings up all
these, you know, he's
incredible. He's an anti Vaxxer,
even his family hates him, oh,
pay attention. So he does what I
think is a pretty important
speech. And for a couple of
reasons. One, his voice is much
better. I think we are
determined years ago, when he
starts talking a lot than his
affliction gets better. And he's
also invoking John F. Kennedy,
and a lot and of the days almost
like that, not the Camelot part,
but the peace part. And so he
had this, it was in look at it
in the show notes about 45
minutes. And he does this entire
spiel about the wages of war.
And he says, what's really
happening is if you have war
outside your home all the time,
then that is going to bring war
inside your home and literally
inside your home. And that was
that was pretty
John C Dvorak: interesting. I
will make a quick comment here
on this. Generally speaking,
except, you know, during these
moments of huge amounts of
propaganda American the American
public is anti war. Yes. And
that's how Obama got elected.
The Iraqi war was going on and
Obama ran in 20 Whatever 2008 I
guess Yeah. On a peace platform,
you can take it to the bank.
Yeah. If he was gonna get us out
of the Iraqi war or he was gonna
get on him obey he was gonna do
this was gonna do as a total
peace platform, and the
Democrats really are the
peaceniks, generally speaking,
it's only recently that we've
had this kind of crossover. And
then they still have the
peacenik bug. The fact that the
Democrats are the biggest war
mongers I've ever seen, of late,
is kind of a surprise. And I
think Kennedy can bring him back
to the norm or mount normalcy.
Adam Curry: Well, there's not
going to be any debates. So
there'll be no exposure. Who
knows how corrupt the actual
voting systems are? There's a
lot of disbelief and those
across the board, I mean, if you
look at any poll, right or left
John C Dvorak: driving and Gavin
Newsom is also the wildcard
here,
Adam Curry: though, and we'll
leave him there but this Kennedy
cat, he's got a rap that is if
if the Kennedy cat if people
hear him, Hey, man, you know,
he's from like, the Kennedy cat
era, man, you know what I'm
saying, bro? They get a dig,
man, I dig the Kennedy cap. So
he so the whole setup is this
wages of war. And he talks
about, you know, if you're, if
you're warring with, you know,
if you think everyone's evil,
and you're gonna have that
insight, you're gonna bring that
home, right into your actual
very home, you will have this
kind of division that so I'll
play a clip that kind of is the
end of that. schpeel. And the
question now is, are we willing
to do anything like that today?
Or are we remained stuck in a
self righteous story in which
America is categorically good?
At our poll, opponents are
irredeemably evil. If we remain
stuck there, so will every other
nation it's not only America
that's falling and falling into
this employee. Stick good guy,
bad guy thinking. That's the
example we've set for everybody
in the world, a wonder it's been
replicated everywhere between
Israel and Iran between India
and Pakistan, between Shia and
Sunni between Jew and Arab,
between Hindus and Muslims left
and right, between pro life and
pro choice between facts and
anti facts, this tribalistic us
versus them thinking is tearing
us apart. And it's a rousing
round of applause. I think was
at a school, the university so
people like whatever I heard,
there was like people, yeah,
wait a minute that you've seen
some good there. So now he
invokes and gives us a bit of a
history lesson about his uncle,
he talked more about his uncle
John F. Kennedy than his dad,
Robert F. Kennedy. And about JFK
being an anti war president. And
it's tearing apart our country
and it's tearing apart the
world. So this, these are the
wages of war. When we take the
first step toward peace, we will
become once again a true world
leader, a moral leader, a moral
authority. And our example, it
doesn't take much. It's just the
first step. And people will
start looking at America
differently the way they did
when my uncle was president. My
uncle, I pointed this out.
Unknown: In my announcement
speech, my uncle was so
determined. He told us that one
of his best friends Brent, and
Bradley said to him, What do you
want on your as your epithet on
your gravestone and he said, he
kept the peace, he said, and
Bradley asked him to explain
that he said, the primary job of
an American president is to keep
the country out of war, as what
he said and during
Adam Curry: not happened
recently.
Unknown: During his time in the
White House, he was surrounded
by military talk hawks and his
intelligence apparatus, his
military brass, wanted it who
were constantly exhorting him to
go to war in Laos, in Berlin, in
Cuba, in Vietnam, and he'd never
sent a single combat troop
abroad during his term in
office. He ultimately wanted to
send 250,000 combat troops to
Vietnam, he ended up sending
16,000 advisors who are not
under the rules of engagement
allowed to participate in
combat. That's fewer people,
fewer men. And he sent James
Meredith one black man until Ole
Miss University of Mississippi
in Jackson. Okay, now I'd like
to say to that advisors, we know
what that is. That's bullcrap.
military advisors are they're
saying, All right, now you point
it there. Okay. And you pull the
trigger here. So, the JFK got
duped, but I guess he was an
anti war president. And I'll
give Trump that truth to Trump
didn't didn't get us into war.
He was going to pull us out
didn't but he at least, you
know, he went and talked to Kim
Jong Hoon. He went and talked to
Putin. Crazy. He's insane. He
must be in cahoots with him to
now RFK Putin. Now RFK gives us
a history and a timeline. That
is important to remember and is
probably the reason why Ron Paul
says you know, that's when when
we'd lost the country was with
the killing of JFK. And this is
this goes back to one of our
favorite clips, he won't he'll
he'll talk about the clip, but
also about an important
presidential order a month
before he died in October of
1963. He heard that a that a
Greenbrae had died in Vietnam,
and he asked one of his aides to
give him a total casualty list.
And the aid came back and the
casualty list had 75 Americans
on it who had died in Vietnam
and he said that's too much.
We're not going to have a single
more American died at a high
national security order to 63
that ordered every true every US
US service person home from
Vietnam was the first 1000
Leaving the next month and
beginning of November and and
that he died a month later. And
a week after his death. That
order was remanded and President
Johnson ended up spending. I
think 250,000 troops by
President Johnson President
Johnson ended up sending 250,000
troops. Ultimately
560,000 56,000 never came home
including my cousin George
Skakel who died in the Tet
Offensive and we killed a
million Vietnamese and You know,
we had, we've we've been going
off on this path with the
military industrial complex,
which President Eisenhower
warned about a week before him
or three days before my uncle
took off, it's in the best
speech that he ever gave in one
of the most important moment in
history where he warned America.
If we did not take great pains
to avoid the millet, the
emerging Military Industrial
Complex would devour our
democracy would destroy American
values from within. And my uncle
knew that he knew that speech
and he spent the three years is
1000 days in office, fighting
against the rise the military
industrial complex after his
death, we went down that path
that Eisenhower predicted and
that's where we are today. And
it's time now to reverse that.
It's time.
Adam Curry: Somebody likes it.
So I'm listening. I'm listening
to this guy. And he goes into
all of this stuff is like the
military industrial complex. And
it's like listening to 15 years
of no agenda clips. It really is
into one. And yeah, it rolled
into one and, and pretty
concise. And he does it well.
And he talks about how we
promised and he says Baker
promise we all promised not one
inch towards the east with NATO.
And he says no, we didn't do one
inch we did 1000 miles. And
we've completely surrounded
Russia. And you know, he talks
about another one of his uncle
speeches where he said, you
know, hey, you know, we didn't
win World War Two, the Russians
did, the Russians defeated the
Germans or you're weaken them
enough. So we could go into
Berlin, which is true, which is
historical fact. And, and then
he rolls out. And it's funny
because his his head is so in
those days that he instead of
Boris Johnson, he says, Boris
Yeltsin.
Unknown: He doesn't he doesn't
correct himself. But he calls
out something else we knew we
now have such a distorted and
desperate view of the other
side. We won't even speak to
them to see conflict as
inevitable as become the
cornerstone of US foreign
policy. Two or three decades
ago, it was the clash of
civilization between Islam and
the West. Today, those legions
of think tanks that are funded
by the defense industry exhort
us to prepare for the inevitable
war with China. A war is
inevitable only if we make it
inevitable.
The war in Ukraine could have
been avoided even as late now we
now know as spring of 2022 when
US officials sent Boris Yeltsin
to have to scuttle peace talks
between Ukraine and Russia a
peace agreement they had already
signed. And not only that Russia
had already begun removing its
troops from the key area, we now
know this war was this war was
not inevitable. It was the
creation of a relentless
mentality of foreign domination.
There you go. She said, yell,
somebody meant Boris Johnson,
because that's true. Boris
Johnson
John C Dvorak: brought that
document out, slashed into front
of the cameras showed the
initials and said this, this was
a peace agreement. And it was
never it was the Russians were
implementing it. But then it
turns out that we go to the
Ukrainians and forget that.
Adam Curry: So and so his
strategy he has I don't think
either way.
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. But by
the way, that is scandalous that
the mainstream does not harp on
Adam Curry: that, because
they're all part of it. This is
way down that Pantelis is
scandalous, scandalous.
Scandalous, I tell you what so
so his strategy, he doesn't seem
to have a ground game he doesn't
if you go to the RFK or Kennedy
20 four.com website, there's no
bumper stickers, there's no yard
signs and some T shirts. No
agenda shop has more than his
shop. So I guess his strategies
podcast which I know they may it
may work he's going on a lot of
them he's going everywhere he
can i We could probably get him
one I have one I have RFK Jr who
grill him. Grill well grill him
we want to deal
John C Dvorak: with the defense
industries and Big Pharma
combined against him. It's very
hard to mention the intelligence
community very which doesn't
have to do anything in this
case. DEA has got a prayer
they're just pounding with the
with the with the overriding
propaganda is an act die Vax nut
ball that shouldn't be taken
seriously. And the fact that And
then the public will see that
he's not taken seriously by the
mainstream media, which is the
third element of this trifecta
of, of evil doers does is is the
fact that he's got 25% Now in
terms of people that say they
might want to vote for him is a
miracle. If it goes higher than
that, I'm going to be stunned.
Adam Curry: He says he has 25%
That's according to
John C Dvorak: one source. Yeah.
25% That's the Democrats are the
Democrats. Okay?
Adam Curry: Well, I'm hearing a
lot of Trump errs going, hey,
yeah, we need Trump and Kennedy
ticket that'll do it. I'm like
dream on. That'll never never,
never. But I have to say this
anti war message might connect
if enough people are killed. I
mean, you're right it's there's
still 30% of the world at least
the United States for sure who
are walking around with you have
masks on in the car, there's so
mind control. But when you go in
and I was watching
John C Dvorak: some TV, local TV
thing, and they had they were
interviewing a couple that owned
a restaurant and so ever no
one's wearing a mask except the
restaurant owners. And there are
a couple it's like they're
married and they're wearing
masks sitting next to each
other.
Adam Curry: No, he did have a an
appearance on Newsmax with Greta
Van Susteren, my how the mighty
have fallen.
John C Dvorak: And this is just,
this is almost a carnival, the
why
Adam Curry: and this is about
bio weapons.
Unknown: But what what I worry
about is is a WMD like a virus
like a gain of function
something? Do you worry of
Greta, you ignorant sloth about
that? Because I see that as sort
of the next the next big fight
because, you know, those viruses
don't see any borders. And
they're relatively cheap to do
this gain of function. I mean,
it's just that's what I worry
about more than the big
hardware.
Yeah, you're exactly right. And
we know that the Chinese are
developing ethnic bio weapons or
bio weapons that are designed to
attack people of certain racial
types. And the and we're doing
the same thing. We've been
collecting Chinese DNA. We've
been collecting Russian DNA
specifically for that it is arms
race is a character to Hashmi.
You know, in 1969, we had
developed by then nucular
equivalency with bio weapons, so
we could eliminate the same
numbers of people with bio
weapons, I think 29 cents a
death, they calculated the
Defense Department and the CIA
calculated at that time.
President Nixon did the most
extraordinary thing. He went to
Fort Dietrich, and he said we
are unilaterally ending the bio
weapons arms race, we are giving
up all of our bio weapons, we're
going to destroy them. We're
going to disable the capacity at
Fort Dietrich, and we're not
going to make them anymore. And
three years later, almost all
the nations on the earth signed
a charter stopping bio weapons
production and and the problem
was, the CIA continued to do
secret bio weapons production
our country, the Russians found
out about that and rejigged
their program. And then after
2001, we passed the Patriot Act,
which reopened the arms race,
which basically cancelled out
Nixon's 1979 agreement treaty
and launched a new bio weapons
arms race, and everybody else in
the world is doing it. And the
impacts as you point out, Greta
are horrific. Yeah. And then
there we are with COVID, whether
it was Wuhan lime for Dietrich,
and wherever it came from,
everyone's pointing the finger
at trios where they do it. And
then of course, we know now that
there were quite a few us
admitted by Vicki Nuland, US Bio
Labs in Ukraine. Yeah, that's
the kicker and check it out. So
the Russian defense ministry
gave a briefing on US military
and biological activity and they
have they have receipts they
showed documents acquired when
they when they went into all the
Bio Labs and you know, scooped
John C Dvorak: up they overran
them scooped up the document
read that fast
Adam Curry: documents acquired
during the special military
operation proved the Walter Reed
Army Institute of Research
connection to the US Defense
Threat Reduction Agency and its
key contractor. The meta biota
company, admitted by Oda was the
company that Hunter Biden played
a role in funding for these Bio
Labs in Ukraine. I mean, this
stinks to high hell, all of it.
John C Dvorak: Well, let's stop
there for a second and consider
something I'm like, constantly
consider, which is that the
whole Hunter Biden episode, the
craziness, and then there's
recent slap on the wrist and all
the rest of it and all the stuff
that You know, Biden supposedly
did, it just sounds so much like
that, sonny, that guy that used
to be the gangster in Boston
that was working for the FBI
Adam Curry: with Whitey Bolger
Whitey Bolger.
John C Dvorak: And it's just as
though they've given these guys
have been working for the FBI
CIA who knows who, and they're
covered. That's why the DOJ,
nothing is ever coming of any of
this. There's got to be a reason
that nobody is doing anything
about the comer investigation
where they're finding all this
money flowing into the Biden
family and Biden living in these
mansions. And it's just,
there's, there's absolutely
zipping done. There has to be a
reason is not because Biden is a
nice guy.
Adam Curry: No, no. I think
Hunter Biden is the key. If they
unravel that guy, they unravel a
lot. He's covered. Yeah, well,
John C Dvorak: let's listen to
happening.
Adam Curry: Let's listen to the
pixie girl on the Central
Intelligence Broadcast Systems.
Unknown: As part of the Hunter
Biden plea agreement. Three
charges were filed in a Delaware
court to misdemeanor counts of
willful failure to pay federal
income tax on annual earnings in
excess of $1.5 million. A third
count possession of a handgun by
a drug user would be dismissed
if Biden remains drug free and
commits no additional crimes
during a specified time period.
A source familiar with the term
said Biden's legal team expects
probation not jail time, though
final approval rests with the
judge.
I think the judge is going to do
what's fair. And I think what's
fair is, you know, my client
gets on with his life.
David Weiss, the US Attorney in
Delaware who led the probe was
appointed by then President
Trump and left in place by the
Biden administration. In a
statement why said the
investigation is ongoing. But
Hunter Biden's team sees it
differently. My understanding is
that we're done. Traveling in
California President Biden was
asked about the news
and we're proud of our son.
Adam Curry: That's the court of
the century.
Unknown: The news I'm very proud
of my son.
Hunter Biden spoke about the
federal investigation on CBS
Sunday Morning.
I'm cooperating completely and
I'm absolutely certain 100%
certain of the investigation
that I will be cleared 100
frickin
percent.
Democrats hailed the agreement
as a sign of the Justice
Department's independence
Republicans cried foul. Former
President Donald Trump arraigned
on criminal charges last week,
said Hunter Biden was given a
mere traffic ticket.
Do you think this is another
example of a two tiered system
of justice in America?
Republican Congressman James
Comer leads the House Oversight
Committee, which is investigate
by
Adam Curry: the way I love how
they do this. So you know, they
pull in Biden quote, I'm very
proud of my son. And President
Trump said and all they do is
the question they don't do the
answer. Just the question,
Unknown: Said Hunter Biden was
given a mere traffic ticket.
You think this is another
example of a two tiered system
of justice in America Republican
content, even
Adam Curry: his answer? This
isn't this is incredible
reporting. Trump said this, but
we only hear that the question
Unknown: will trump the range on
criminal
John C Dvorak: where they're
structuring it? Yeah, it's
Unknown: good charges last week,
said Hunter Biden was given a
mere traffic ticket.
You think this is another
example of a two tiered system
of justice in America.
Republican Congressman James
Comer leads the House Oversight
Committee, which is
investigating the Biden family's
foreign business dealings, a
probe disputed by the White
House. Well, you call the US
attorney and Delaware to
testify. I would
expect the US attorney to
testify in front of the House of
Representatives very soon. He
needs to explain whether or not
his investigation is concluded.
Gene Rossi, a former Justice
Department official who handled
tax cases told CBS News that
failure to pay tax on more than
$3 million, even though now
repaid is a serious violation.
If this were
hunter Smith, instead of Hunter
Biden. I think you would have a
very much more aggressive
prosecution.
Adam Curry: So this is something
I think I feel like the country
is kind of locking into it's
like, hey, wait a minute, this
two tiered justice system, you
know, even herridge can't get
away from it. NBC had a
Unknown: shorter report. Tonight
after a five year investigation,
the president's son Hunter Biden
has reached a plea deal with
federal prosecutors to plead
guilty to two misdemeanor tax
charges and likely avoid prison
time. Prosecutors say Biden did
not pay more than $100,000 in
taxes on over $1.5 million in
income in both 2017 and 2018.
And two sources tell NBC News,
the prosecutor will recommend
probation while also agreeing
not to prosecute Hunter Biden
for illegally possessing a
firearm. Even though Biden knew
he was barred from doing so
because he was using drugs.
Biden faced a maximum of two
Well of months behind bars for
each tax charge and up to 10
years for owning the handgun.
I think what's fair is, you
know, my client gets on with his
life,
the former president tonight
accusing the Biden Justice
Department of giving Hunter
Biden quote, a mirror traffic
ticket, our system is broken.
top Republicans argue it's
evidence of a double standard.
Adam Curry: So what they've
done, Republicans and Democrats,
unit party people, they've moved
the conversation away from the
true crimes of the Biden crime
family, and all this all the Bio
Labs, and I mean, they are
involved. And I think what
happened, you know, it's a
sophisticated operation. Ukraine
has been used for all kinds of
things for decades and decades.
You know, even the, the, the the
DNC server went to Ukraine, I
mean, all this does with Ukraine
was just it's where you go for
all kinds of criminal activity.
And the problem is, the Biden
crime family are just Grifters.
And they screwed up. It's like,
oh, well, we got these guys.
They die. We can't have them
blow it for us. Is this is this
the Bonanza over here? We're
divvying up this country. We
can't have that. So let's talk
about dual standards. Yeah. And
then what are the Republicans
do? Or whatever they haul in?
And they haul in Durham? You
know, oh, let's talk about that.
And let's talk about how I have
a,
John C Dvorak: I have an
alternative clip of this, of the
hunter thing. And I don't say
please, still does the hunter
rundown and NTD. But I still
think that they're protected is
everything that we're witnessing
is just an example. And I'd like
to know, by the way, how you can
make $1.5 million and only pay
$100,000 in taxes. How does that
work?
Adam Curry: Well, maybe he wrote
off all the hookers and blow. I
mean, he could say that, like,
John C Dvorak: you know how you
make $1.5 million. He and He did
it for two years ago back who
knows how many years but those
two years that are under
investigation, he must have done
it more in just two years now.
Make a $1.5 million paid. Don't
pay don't even file hell with
it. Yeah. And then they they
bust you and you had to pay
100,000? Yeah. Does anyone do
the math on this?
Adam Curry: No. Why would we do
that? No one's paying tax except
us. This should
John C Dvorak: be 38% of the 1.5
which is at least at half. You
know, it's almost three or
300 500 or $500,000? Not
100,000? No, but
Adam Curry: you know, again, it
was all you know, and they
usually had penalties. Where's
the penalties? No, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no. See, that's
where instead of smelling the
rat people go to tear justice
system. And that's what gets
everybody off track. And look,
I'm still on Twitter. I see it
is true to Joseph says do man.
Okay,
Unknown: President Biden's son
Hunter plans to plead guilty to
two tax crimes, and has struck a
deal with federal prosecutors to
resolve a felony gun charge. And
today's Iris Tao brings us more
from the White House
and federal prosecutors charged
Hunter Biden was in failure to
pay income tax and felony gun
charge of illegally possessing a
firearm while knowing that he
was addicted to using drugs.
According to court documents,
Hunter Biden is expected to
enter a plea deal basically
pleading guilty to two
misdemeanor and tax crimes. But
when it comes to the felony gun
charge, he's expected to enter
what he calls a diversion
program through which he could
walk away with no jail time, or
even a felony record. If he
stays sober for two years and
gives us the right to ever own a
gun again,
if you are the president's son.
He will house speaker Kevin
McCarthy today criticize what he
calls a two tiered justice
system. And he vows to continue
do peace investigation into the
Biden family and this business
dealings.
DOJ should not be able to
withhold any information now.
But a top Democrat on the House
Oversight Panel today called the
charges against Hunter Biden a
reflection of the DoD
independence, and that says
former President Trump who's was
indicted with 37 federal charges
and calls Hunter Biden's charges
in New York traffic ticket. And
today President Biden said
I'm very proud of my son. A
White House
spokesperson says today that the
President and the First Lady
love their son and support him
as he continues to rebuild his
life while adding we have no
further comment. Meanwhile,
although Hunter Biden's or Tony
says today's announcement marks
the end to a five year
investigation into Hunter Biden.
The DoD later said on Tuesday
that its investigation into
Hunter Biden is still ongoing.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well that is
just saying that to keep their
power Whoa, you know, we might
do some it is all and and also
this incessant reading of the
law. Action is not for a year
and a half and elbow. Brewer was
going to be president is going
to be who gives a crap it's
going to be president. What's
happening the President is not
the king, the emperor of America
he has limited power see Trump
now he what he did he did what
he did he's Supreme Court
federal judges tried to do
everything else was his downfall
talking to Putin talking to to
North Korea talking to the
Saudis all that was you know,
the military industrial complex
dia whatever it is, it's all
taken people down it's just not
that important you know, your
mail your your governor your
your city council your school
board that's where you got to
focus on these in America at
least we're a federated system
of states you still have power
people just sucked into this.
Whoa this guy that guy Red Team
Blue exactly what what RFK Jr
said so then we have the new law
let's just go back and let's as
we say in the old country, drag
some old cows out of the canal.
And let's let our cool out slow
that in Dutch and our cool out
slow Tyler is dragging Oh cow
out of the canal.
Unknown: The Dutchman great one
Adam Curry: off cow out of the
canal.
Unknown: Here's NBC News report
and on Capitol Hill, the former
special counsel investigating
the FBIs Russia probe against
then candidate Donald Trump
telling lawmakers his findings
included sobering missteps by
the FBI. Jared Hake. Now with
that story.
Special Counsel John Durham
facing a five hour grilling,
grilling, he's explosive
conclusion that the FBI acted
improperly in its opening of the
2016 Trump Russia probe. We
found troubling violations of
law and policy Mr. Durham
arguing that the available
evidence did not support opening
the full investigation known as
crossfire hurricane,
the FBI opened up crossfire
hurricane without speaking to
the people who provided the
initial information. Is that
true? That's correct. Was there
adequate predication for the FBI
to open crossfire hurricane as a
full investigation
on July 31. And my view based on
our investigation that was not a
legitimate basis to openness,
full investigation
and Durham saying he found anti
Trump sentiment among the FBI
brass who launched the
investigation. There are some
individuals who clearly
expressed a personal bias. The
Mueller report ultimately found
no conspiracy between the Trump
campaign and Russia but resulted
in 34 People criminally charged
Democrats noting Durham's four
year investigation produced only
three criminal cases, including
to acquittals and accusing the
bill Barr appointee of running
political interference for
former President Trump.
Adam Curry: So what comes out of
all this as far as I can tell, I
don't know if you have any
clips. But the we have a when
everybody we are censoring. We
are censoring Adam Schiff of
California. And it's like, oh,
yes, he's been censured. And if
you look it up. In the context
of the United States House of
Representatives censure refers
to an official reprimand formal
condemnation of a member for
misconduct and inappropriate
behavior. Nothing else happens?
John C Dvorak: No, of course
not. This goes on every so often
it's supposed to be a review.
Adam Curry: Yes, it's all a
rebuke slap on the wrist. It we
disapprove of how you handled
everything. Adam Schiff.
John C Dvorak: Good to have one
Dirham clip from NTD.
Adam Curry: But yeah, let's play
the drum and TD Here we go.
Unknown: So Chairman Mike Turner
and ranking Democrat member Jim
Himes came and spoke to
reporters immediately following
that meeting with special
counsel, John Durham. And it's
interesting because they had
pretty much a bipartisan
consensus of wanting to address
the mistakes that the FBI made,
in that in launching that
investigation against former
President Donald Trump and
expressing a wish to find
solutions moving forward. Let's
look at what they had to say.
It was interesting to hear from
Mr. Durham, that he has concerns
that there are reforms that need
to go into place and that there
are still issues that need to be
addressed. And he was very
forthcoming and sharing with us
and I think that we were able to
get some information that would
be very helpful for us and the
work that we have to do on both
FISA renewal FISA reforms and
also reform issues with the FBI,
and appreciate my ranking member
Jim
Ward essentially says that the
FBI made serious mistakes when
launching that crossfire
hurricane investigation into
former President Donald Trump
because they lacked sufficient
evidence to even open the
investigation to begin with.
Instead, the information that
the FBI did have was based on
individual sources who were
politically biased and those
facts went unchecked, even when
the FBI did come across
information that was contrary to
that information coming from
those indices. jewel sources
they still dismissed it and
continue to launch that
investigation. Now, of course,
we've heard from many
Republicans. They pointed to
this Durham report saying that
it's proof that the FBI has used
their power to target political
opponents, specifically former
President Donald Trump. Of
course, this is a similar
argument that we heard just last
week during Trump's second
arraignment. Now, the FBI has
responded acknowledging that
they did make mistakes with that
crossfire hurricane
investigation, but have said
they have since taken steps to
prevent mistakes like this from
happening in the future and have
also said that the FBI officials
involved in the crossfire
hurricane investigation have
left the FBI either by retiring
or being terminated or having
resigned. Oh, yeah, nice and
Adam Curry: tidy. All right.
Okay. So
John C Dvorak: now I want to
read something from a Democrat.
This is a newsletter that comes
out on Saturday called a letter
from an American and I always
like I subscribe to this because
one of our
Adam Curry: why wouldn't use it
because you need to have good
information on all sides. Of
course,
John C Dvorak: one of our
producers was pitching and one
of his letters about how his
wife won't come around to listen
to no agenda. And, and he cited
this newsletter, she reads it
religiously and believes every
bit of it. And so I'm just going
to read just a bit of it
discussing the Durham report and
the testimony at Durham hat. And
just to show you, where the
typical hardcore Democrat is
concerning the Russian
investigation because it keeps
cropping up. But Democrats on
the committee pressed him on the
facts of the Russian
investigation itself. And he
seemingly somewhat reluctantly
agreed under oath in response to
question by Representative Adam
Schiff, that the facts of the
Muller report and the Senate
Intelligence Committee report
were correct. Russia interfered
in the 2016 election for the
benefit of Trump. Trump's
campaign welcomed the help and
shared information and secret
meetings with Russian
operatives, and the FBI was
justified in investigating that
interference. Now, this is not
what anyone else is hearing. But
this is what this the core of
the Democrat Party believes
sounds
Adam Curry: like it was written
by Nicole Wallace.
John C Dvorak: It's a lie. Yeah.
Adam Curry: That's not at all
what I mean, we know a couple of
things from the Muller report.
We read it all we deconstructed
it, it was disappointing for
people that you know, they
couldn't hang Trump on it. We
also learned that the no agenda
show is the best podcast in
universe that was also in the
Muller report. It was in there
it was in there. Yeah, that's
why. So then
John C Dvorak: it's a lie, but
they just spew it out just like
this. Yeah. And it's just and it
goes on with this. It's more
about how Russia and Trump is
they're connected. And they're
going to somebody's point on
this on one of the talk shows, I
can't remember which one it was
dot bungee G knows, damn radio,
Sham bungee. And he says that
there's no way that you're not
going to revisit this because it
works so well to just associate
whoever the Republican whoever a
Republican is running that with
Russian interference. And they
stick with it. Underlying
everything we're talking about
and everything and all the
ghosts and all the realities.
What I just read underlies
everything and it stays there.
Adam Curry: And it's been that
way for for decades and decades.
It goes all the way back Russia,
communist Russia, Cuba, on and
on and on. It's all that's
always been the Boogeyman. So
there was one moment in this in
this hearing, where I forget who
it was skies, just like, man, if
you're shilling for Trump for
Trump, you're gonna lose
everything. Your life is over.
You better quit it.
Unknown: Yeah, good. John. We've
now entered the fifth hour of
this hearing where we continue
to hear questions from members
to the Special Counsel, John
Durham and what's been a very
partisan display up until now
while Republicans have chosen to
focus on the contents of his
report. Democrats have tried to
discredit John Durham's findings
and even attack his character,
you have a good reputation. You
had a good reputation. That's
why the two Democrats supported
you. But the longer you hold on
to Mr. Baugh and this report
that Mr. Barr gave you a special
counsel, your reputation will be
damaged as everybody's
reputation who gets involved
with Donald Trump his damage,
he's damaged goods, there's no
good dealing with him because
you will end up on the bottom of
a pyre.
My concern by my reputation is
with the people who I respect my
family and my Lord. Lordy, and
I'm perfectly comfortable with
my reputation with them, sir.
Adam Curry: So your reputation
will be gone. You'll be nothing
in this town. That's what
they're all afraid I work that's
what they're all Write up. I do
have to play this. This clip
from Brett bears interview with
President Trump. Brett bear was
out for out for blood. And I
think he drew some and I and he
embarrassed the former president
many times with what he was
saying. And he just I have to
say he just ran circles around
Trump and Trump wasn't expecting
it. I don't know that he still
thinks that Fox News was was on
his side. I
John C Dvorak: believe that's
true, because he said it can
number of times that he knows
that Fox News This is
Adam Curry: well he wasn't
prepared for it. Unless this
this was I mean, bear did a lot
of interesting things with boy.
John C Dvorak: Go ahead to
discuss this little aspect. I
think Trump's still thinks he's
the smartest guy in the room and
he can be tricked.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. So he can
be tricked. Anyway, listen to
this. Your Vice
Unknown: President Mike Pence is
running against you. Your
ambassador to the United Nations
Nikki Haley. She's running
against you, your former
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
said he's not supporting you.
You mentioned National Security
Adviser John Bolton. He's not
supporting you either. You
mentioned Attorney General Bill
Barr says you shouldn't be
president again. I called you to
constantly narcissist and
troubled man you recently called
and borrow a gutless pig. Your
second defensive posture is not
supporting you called your
irresponsible. This week. You
and your White House called your
White House Chief of Staff John
Kelly, weak and ineffective and
born with a very small brain.
You called your acting White
House Chief of Staff Mick
Mulvaney a born loser. You
called your first Secretary of
State Rex Tillerson dumb as a
rock and your first Defense
Secretary James Mattis, the
world's most overrated general,
you called your White House
press secretary Kayleigh Canady
milquetoast and multiple times
you've referred to your
transportation secretary Elaine
Chao as Mitch McConnell's China
loving wife.
I will tell you that something
happens when people leave, they
can like me very much. I have
this woman named Alyssa Farah.
She said the greatest things
wrong after she left. He's the
greatest president we've ever
had. He was unbelievable.
Unbelievable. Then the view
offered her a contract. But
obviously, only if she changed
your views. And all of a sudden
she can say negative things.
Money gets offered to people and
some people change.
Adam Curry: This is not the only
the answer. Now, he says it.
Yeah. Well, she was barraged yes
he was but he was like I'm I'm
great at firing people. He's
pretty good at firing people.
I'm not good at hiring people.
And by the way, we're gonna say
that No, and he should he should
repent for Operation warp speed.
Not maybe for doing it because
that wasn't necessarily wrong.
But he should say, you know,
that didn't work out too. Well,
that stuff is not good. This
John C Dvorak: pant for not
pardoning Julian Assange.
Adam Curry: That would be a big
one for us. Yes, for sure. It
John C Dvorak: also probably
should have also Snowden should
have been on the list. But
Adam Curry: also, it feels to me
like he's, he's thinking
simplistically about America has
grown up. Thanks to him.
Actually. We have grown up.
There's a lot of people who,
Paul, the septic guy called me
yesterday and you know, had some
question about his generator.
And he's like, you know, man,
like Buell right there, Ronnie
D, he's no good. He's Wall
Street guy. But when I Trump
behind, I don't know what to do,
that people are confused because
now they start to understand the
issues. They're seeing what's
going on. Now Trump is right
about what he predicted about
the economy, etc. But that was
easy to predict because of all
the money that was printed. Then
he was there. You know, he saw
it, he actually brought the
Federal Reserve closer into the
treasury than it ever was
before. And it's just he if you
could get a sentence out and
explain things calmly and not
always being just, you know, I
create a more consistent Rumi's
John C Dvorak: invitation to me.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Really, I picked it
up from her. Yeah. And so if RFK
Jr, who's I think people could
be a single, that could be a
single voting issue. The only
single voting issue we have in
the United States right now is
abortion and maybe trans rights,
but everybody could be it
against war. Everybody could be
against it and Trump can do this
he has a reason or he has a
record with this now in Kennedy
Jr. He
John C Dvorak: has a right he
has a positive record very good
right issues war being one of
them. Yeah, but instead he gets
down into eating or he can't
seem to bring himself up to the
level of like ever Kennedy and
be philosophical in a way that's
meaningful. I mean, now there is
a an example I have a son a lot
it was on the last clip list. It
was last show okay of him
discussing the education system
calmly and and I don't know if
it's on this clip list or not
Trump
Adam Curry: but you have to go
over Trump on education played
it play this.
John C Dvorak: This is a policy
discussion that is great never
got played anywhere. I've
there's other examples of stuff
like this and it just is not
what they want from Trump.
Unknown: For many years tuition
costs and colleges and
universities have been
exploding, and I mean absolutely
exploding. While academics have
been obsessed with
indoctrinating America's youth.
The time has come to reclaim our
once great educational
institutions from the radical
left and we will do that our
secret weapon will be the
college accreditation system.
It's called accreditation for a
reason. The accreditors are
supposed to ensure that schools
are not ripping off students and
taxpayers but they have failed
totally. When I returned to the
White House, I will fire the
radical left to creditors that
have allowed our colleges to
become dominated by Marxist
Maniacs and lunatics. We will
then accept applications for new
accreditors who will impose real
standards on colleges once again
and once and for all. These
standards will include defending
the American tradition and
Western civilization, protecting
free speech eliminating wasteful
administrative positions that
drive up costs incredibly,
removing all boxes Diversity,
Equity and Inclusion bureaucrats
offering options for accelerated
at low cost degrees, providing
meaningful job placement and
Career Services and implementing
college entrance and exit exams
to prove that students are
actually learning and getting
their money's worth.
Furthermore, I will direct the
Department of Justice to pursue
federal civil rights cases
against schools that continue to
engage in racial discrimination.
And schools that persist and
explicit unlawful discrimination
under the guise of equity will
not only have their endowment
stacks, but through budget
reconciliation, I will advance a
measure to have them fined up to
the entire amount of their
endowment. A portion of the C's
funds will then be used as
restitution for victims of these
illegal and unjust policies,
policies that hurt our country.
so badly. Colleges have gotten
hundreds of billions of dollars
from hard working taxpayers. And
now we are going to get this
anti American insanity out of
our institutions once and for
all. We are going to have real
education in America. Thank you.
Adam Curry: Great policy
statement. Couple problems. One,
he's dividing left as Democrats,
you know, you know, that if
you're not going to win the
whole country with that same
with with DeSantis, with his
anti woke stuff, you can I'm not
against what he's saying. Of
course, of course, the schools
have become discriminatory, but
the President shouldn't even be
involved in the school in
Fredericksburg, that should be
the Fredericksburg people. And
to a large degree, they have
that right and they are actually
taking that you know, they
they're making use of that. I
think Americans and maybe people
all over the world are tired of
the government people at the top
saying we're going to do this
we're gonna fix this we're gonna
fix that. And they all hang on
for dear life, and nothing
happens because the President is
not the king. Now and then he
hires a who would Pritzker
Pritzker do cheval deuces from
the douche family. I haven't
forgotten that. It just doesn't
make any I like the Marxist
Maniacs and lunatics that are
like that's clearly a problem.
Now
John C Dvorak: well, you can't
do much on the local level with
schools like Harvard it's not
really
Adam Curry: I understand the
government I understand that but
just schools in general this
this problem is not well, I
guess it is because what the
who's who's funding the schools?
It's it's the big endowment.
That's where all that comes
from. You can't stop that.
John C Dvorak: No, no, it's the
high tuitions the endowments are
accumulating. They're not nobody
in funded. The Italian Downey
endowment
Adam Curry: determined the
curriculum. They say we'll give
you this endowment but you've
got to do this curriculum.
That's the way I understand it.
But I'm just talking about the
lower level just the kids who
were being indoctrinated told
their boys and girls when
they're not.
John C Dvorak: Well, which
brings me to my top clips here
we talk talk to talk.
Adam Curry: Before we go there,
kind of just say one thing
someone gave me a theory that I
thought was really interesting
just relating to the the Biden
crime family. What if 10% for
the big guy? What if the big guy
is Obama? And we're just miss
misinterpreting that to be Joe
Biden.
John C Dvorak: Well, here's the
reason I don't think that's the
case. So I liked it. Because
because Obama's a newbie came in
out of the out of the blue is a
good coordinator from some
charities in Chicago. Biden goes
back 50 years and they're one of
the most corrupt states of the
country,
Adam Curry: Delaware. Good
point. Okay. I'm just throwing
it out there. Just that we got
to keep it. There's a thread
somewhere there's
John C Dvorak: maybe that that
during the Obama administration
Biden was running it for all we
know could be a fact that let me
get off track and go away from
tick tock for a minute and bring
it up. I have this this thesis
about Biden always being a gun
day, you know, the, the chin,
the guy around the gentle AC
Family walked around the
Adam Curry: village and dance
peeing his pants in
John C Dvorak: his underwear,
mumbling to himself, made me
listen to this clip. This is
Brooks on the Biden
Adam Curry: books. On the Biden
Unknown: point, President Biden
told reporters today that he has
not talked to the Attorney
General about this case and will
not talk to him about it.
And that's not really
appropriate. I would say even
longer term though I do think
Biden is still under exposed. I
think his staff is still over
protective of him. And he's much
smarter in public than a lot of
people think, and private. And
so I do think they need to let
him get out more because it's
just not good for the
presidency, for him to be that
much in the shadow of Donald
Trump. And that's been even
without the indictment.
Couldn't he tell them that?
Could he tell his staff that if
he felt that way? It's been said
to me that the President
believes that when you empower
people to do their jobs, you
listen to their advice, but if
he agreed with you, couldn't you
tell them hey, I
don't need to be so protected.
You would think so. And I will
say from what I hear inside the
White House, he's not a
doddering old grandpa. He's like
could be a very tough mean guy,
a very harsh boss sometimes. So
he couldn't say that but you
know, he might he might be
trusted and maybe he wants to be
as quiet and frankly as as
closed in as he has been.
Adam Curry: You've this has been
your theory previously about the
agenda of AC What is it the the
old mafia guy?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, gigante. I
like it.
Adam Curry: i To me, it feels
like there's a thread somewhere
and it was someone pulls this
one thread it all comes.
Everything comes undone and I
think the only way If he truly
is the mob boss, and he's really
he is the big guy. He has to
call the hit on Hunter. Then out
of the blue and I'll be waiting
with your theory someone's got
to do it. Hunters a liability.
John C Dvorak: Liability. I'm
not done. There's no denying
that you know,
Adam Curry: and and if I love my
son, Mm hmm. So no one wants to
kill Hunter. I'm just theorizing
here.
John C Dvorak: No, I'm it. It's
a mob thing. It's a mob thing
would happen
Adam Curry: and and beef is
truly the Abraham here of the
mob family. He's gonna have to
sacrifice his kid. He's gonna
have to do it. If he does that,
then okay, well, by the way,
then it's all over. Then
America's done for
John C Dvorak: well. We're gonna
go back to play to talk thing
again. We're reset tock tock,
tick tock
Adam Curry: where we're
resetting everybody.
John C Dvorak: Now, before we
again, I'm gonna do a site. I'm
going to do before we play any
of these top tips. I want to
play something that Mimi got for
me. Okay. This is no you have to
remember this is millions and
millions of kids used to love
Mr. Rogers.
Adam Curry: It's a beautiful day
in the neighborhood. Of course,
I used to watch Mr. Rogers.
John C Dvorak: And you know, it
has to miss it. It had to have
some influence. I want to play
this is a song from one of his
albums and like any obvious I
never watched him mostly. I
don't know. I missed him. Yeah,
I couldn't put up with him.
Adam Curry: You were a rambling
teenager. That's why
John C Dvorak: I'm telling you.
So. But listen to this Mr.
Rogers selling
Unknown: some are fancy on the
outside. Some are fancy on the
inside. Everybody's fancy.
Everybody's fine. Your body's
fancy. And so is my boys are
boys from the beginning. When
you're born a boy baby, you grow
up to be a bigger boy. And then
a man. Girls are girls right
from the start. When you're born
a girl baby. You grow up to be a
bigger girl, and then a woman.
Everybody's fancy. Everybody's
fine. Your body's fancy. And so
is my girls grow up to be the
mommy. boys grow up to be the
daddy. Everybody's fancy.
Everybody's fun. If your body's
fancy, and so is my
Adam Curry: heresy I tell you
heresy
John C Dvorak: bruising a gig K
cruisin for a cancellation
Unknown: he's dead
John C Dvorak: he's dead so
let's go with
Adam Curry: Thank you Mimi for
throwing us off track is going
back to some crazy people on Tik
Tok
John C Dvorak: go back to the
net balls and boy are they in
this case now here's a noodle
boy guy he's a I don't know what
he's non binary just I don't
know what his pronouns are her
pronouns or whatever she has but
nose ring right through the you
know the middle one and they're
like the cow and big giant
earrings and wild makeup and
here he goes is the Asheville
noodle boy
Unknown: up until yesterday, I
worked at blend pretzels I asked
the general manager to stand up
for trans rights and against our
genocide. And he laughed in my
face the owner. His father is a
Nazi his son is the general
manager. I've spent nearly a
year expending so much emotional
labor trying to make sure that
I'm safe including having three
hour conversations with the
general manager about why rate
isn't funny. He has sat there
and watched the owner be
transphobic to me, he also
watched and supported while he
paid me less than everybody else
if you are in the Nashville area
or Buncombe County, do not
support blunt pretzels if you
support trans people.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, well,
this is clearly mentally
disturbed, momentarily mentally
disturbed
John C Dvorak: or permanently
numb. Here's a here's a woman
this is the armpit girl has a
short clip she just went on it's
just to show that she has armpit
hairy armpits to get hairy
armpits is a big deal to her.
But you have to note that she
has a completely she bought
perfectly shaved bald head has
been shaved the shaved bald head
and the armpits and she's been
here's the clip.
Unknown: So I have this thing
called a little quirk if you
will. I have hair in my armpit.
I have it there for a few
reasons. One lazy to fuck the
patriarchy and fury. Your
response to them? tells me
everything I need to know about
you. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: this is the thing
is a bit lazy if she sewed keep
her head bald. Yeah. But she's
lazy. She says yeah, that's
that's bullcrap. I
Adam Curry: mean, this is. I
have different I have multiple
thoughts about that. I remember
moving to Europe in the 70s and
my mom being horrified. These
women have hairy pits and hairy
legs.
Unknown: Got airy lay eggs.
Adam Curry: So that's that
doesn't bother me. I mean, you
know,
John C Dvorak: if you saw this
wish he'd been no,
Adam Curry: I liked it. You're
sitting at home watching this
and going and getting all worked
up over it. I kind of like that
or just like that. Like I'm
gonna make a clip out of this.
John C Dvorak: And luckily, by
the way, by the way, I should
mention that now because I've
been doing these I'm now I don't
have to do any work. Because
they are being sent to me. It's
just magic.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And you're
like, Oh, right. I can't. I've
got all the clips I need. I've
got them all.
John C Dvorak: So here's the
queer author this this is a long
clip. I'm gonna skip this. Oh,
Adam Curry: thank you long. I
don't know if I can handle a
long clip.
John C Dvorak: Let's listen to
the white supremacy clip.
Unknown: This commenter says I'm
perfectly fine with fat people.
But WTF do you mean, Aryan that
phobia and racism are two
completely separate things. But
they're not all bigotry, and our
culture is rooted in white
supremacy. White supremacy so
that's my ideal and adding
deviation from that ideal is
discriminated against. Obviously
this goes for a race, but it
also includes the person's size
and our culture, the skinny
people are upheld as the ideal.
There's also racism behind why
skinniness is considered the
ideal because as white women we
want to set ourselves apart from
black women who stereotypically
have curvier bodies. All bodies
are beautiful, but white
supremacy needs to hold up a
singular ideal in order to
maintain control.
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is just
this is the this is the
education system. The and the
media and tick tock probably and
you know this white supremacy,
whereas throughout history in
the Reubens period when the
thick women were found beautiful
in the black community thick
girls are are more desired than
thin girls. It changes it
changes over time. And we
fluctuate this flux. Thank you.
It's
John C Dvorak: a fashion. Yes,
Adam Curry: it's called a
fashion. Now of course, there's
some health issues that come in
at a certain point. But you
know, that's why we have
ozempic, which we'll get to
after we think some people but
before the since you led me down
this path, I do need to discuss
a couple of
John C Dvorak: them before I get
to I get one, at least play one
push back clip. And this is the
pride push ban in Massachusetts.
And even though you could tell
that to the reporters on the
news channel, were horrified.
Horrified by this woman who's
making nothing but sense
Unknown: these displays of
intolerance and homophobia are
unacceptable if this type of
intolerant rhetoric starts in
the home,
parents angry at townhall over
intolerance at Marshall Simon's
middle school, kids were asked
to wear rainbow clothes in honor
of pride Spirit Day, but some
organized a counter protest
wearing red, white and blue or
black. The principal sharing a
statement to families that pride
posters were ripped down
stickers ripped up some students
chanted USA are my pronouns and
students showing pride were
intimidated. It was
an unruly disruption. In fact,
that was organized ahead of time
while some parents were upset.
Others say it was overblown.
Some of the kids threw the
stickers on the ground. But you
know, I can only speak for my
daughter she just she didn't
want to wear that to school.
It's not that she wanted to hurt
anybody's feelings.
She says her daughter felt
coerced to participate in the
Pride event and was offended by
some of the messages like this
quote from Tennessee Williams
human heart cannot be straight
it is curves and winds and my
daughter just kind of said you
know mom, that's that's
offensive to me who I am
straight.
But even parents like her
opposed to the Pride Month
celebration, say the ripping of
posters was wrong.
I think destructing any property
is wrong. I think you know, that
I just think that was wrong.
parents
and community groups now calling
for the town and school board to
act and support diversity,
equity and inclusion, the
incident sparking discussion at
home on both sides.
My thing that I teach my kids is
just be kind. And I wish the
schools would just kind of pump
the brakes on what they're
showing Greg Stokes,
the issue of pride in schools is
very controversial. I understand
that I think we need to start at
a place of commonality.
Now the principal says that no
one was forced to participate in
the Pride Day event, but now
parents on both sides want
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Adam Curry: Oh, it was nice to
hear people want dialogue
because this is more of the what
Kennedy calls the wages of war,
you know, oh, we got to go to
war. We gotta go. I got into war
against them. Yeah, a couple of
things I want to read before I
play two clips here. As so it's
unraveling a little bit. The the
transitioning of children is
starting to unravel. We're
seeing clips coming out of the
UK when I didn't I didn't get
those clips, probably seen as
like another one is outrageous
things on social media. stuff.
Yeah. The kid says, hey, you
know, you can't identify as a
cat. There's only two genders.
The kid gets kicked out. The
teacher comes in and says, you
know, this is this is what the
authority says the authority
says, then you can be anything
you want. And you should 13 year
olds. Yeah. So this is the
problem with government in your
school, is your government
shouldn't be telling you,
whether it's whether you agree
with it or not. The government
should be telling you how to how
your children should be learning
or what they should be learning
but that's up to up to you if
you want that. In 2016 there was
a big MTV reality show about
this kid called Milo and Milo
was oh it was born a girl but
was definitely going to be a boy
and it was you know, just went
all through the transitioning
and now Milo is back after what
is it? Eight nine years.
distraught. I can never have
kids again. I regret getting
hormone injections. my ovaries
are dead. It's horrible,
horrible things. Elliott page
used to be Ellen Page came out
with his interview and just I
mean it's so it's so horrific.
This child was abused in
Hollywood sexually abused and
then you know therapist said all
you clearly a boy will fix that
right up and anyone with the
sound mind who reads this? Can
see like No, no, no, there's
something else going on with
this person. There's a
whistleblower now that exposes
the hospital for performing sex
chain surgeries on minors. I
mean, it's all coming out.
People are not all in lockstep
on this, no matter what the
media thinks, no matter what
politicians think. And even if
the movie theaters think that
they can ban me to here's the
clip.
Unknown: Now the film's producer
say that AMC theaters abruptly
canceled all screenings of the
documentary caving to the
demands of a trans rights group,
AMC Theaters declining to
comment on the record about
their decision to pull the
release.
Adam Curry: Now, what's
interesting about this is this
movie has just been rebranded to
be put into into theaters. It's
called No way back the reality
of gender affirming care. It is
the exact same movie as
affirmation, generation
affirmation, which you can get
on YouTube. So you know,
everyone's kind of in it for
their own reasons, I guess. But
then this happened in Arkansas,
as you know, these horrible
genocidal anti trans laws are
being put in by Republicans who
are Nazis. Now judges are
overturning them. And Amy
Goodman, I have to say
unfortunate morning, Amy Goodman
Clifton bound report that was
usable, usable for US
Unknown: federal judges struck
down Arkansas first in the
nation ban on gender affirming
care for transgender youth.
Judge James moody Jr. ruled the
ban to be unconstitutional
because it discriminates against
transgender people and violates
the rights of doctors. In his
decision. Moody wrote, quote,
rather than protecting children
or safeguarding methods of
medical ethics, the evidence
showed the prohibited medical
care improves the mental health
and well being of patients. And
that by prohibiting it, the
state undermine the interests
that claims to be advancing. One
quote, one of the plaintiffs who
sued our console for the ban was
a 17 year old trans student
named Dylan Brandt, who
responded to the ruling by
saying, quote, transgender kids
across the country are having
their own futures threatened by
laws like this one, and it's up
to all of us to speak out, fight
back and give them hope.
Unquote.
Adam Curry: So I looked at the
judge's opinion. And the judge's
opinion literally says, the
science is in that children who
who get the affirm the gender
affirming care they deserve.
Dude who will not commit
suicide? And so we can you can
boil down this whole debate to
the truth of the matter. To what
does the science really say? And
then the the abstraction of that
is would you rather have a dead
daughter or living son or a dead
son or living daughter but it's
usually a dead daughter living
song because it's a percentage
the girls so that is the SIOP
because the actual science is
only three years old. That's a
joke.
John C Dvorak: The other thing
is interesting, as they
obviously this, this case,
dependent on the whatever the
expert witness was,
Adam Curry: I can tell you it is
the Arkansas chapter of American
Academy of Pediatrics, the
Arkansas Academy of Pediatrics,
the American College of OB GYN,
the American Academy of Child,
Adolescent psychologists, the
American Academy of Child and
Adolescent Psychiatry, the
Arkansas Psychological
Association, and other
scientific and medical
organizations who all recognize
the effectiveness and safety of
gender affirming medical care.
The studies are only Max three
years old. That's who they have
as their expert witnesses. So
fine. Maybe you should look at
Europe who've had who have
literally come out and said,
there is no there are no long
term studies that show this and
in fact that it's 19% of people
transition, wind up suicidal. So
it's it's phony baloney science,
it's just like the jab will you
know it's 80% effective 70 6050
You won't get horribly ill you
won't be in the hospital get a
booster. It's because people
believe a
John C Dvorak: medical system
that allows this to develop in
this way is corrupted.
Adam Curry: Yes. And personally,
I think look, if your kids are
minor, and you're all in on this
and you want to abuse your kid
How about it? If you're all in
and you're there every single
step of the way? Well, then
you're you're just then that'll
be up to you and your your
parent and whatever else. Your
kids
John C Dvorak: some of these
kids go on a murder spree
Adam Curry: well, but you can't
you can't have schools doing
this any of this schools now who
are doing this on the sly
Midwest, teachers trade tips on
subversively, in quietly
transitioning kids without
telling parents, that's the
stuff that should be outlawed.
But if you really think you're a
good parent out, I'd have at it,
but then be ready for the
consequences. So you know, I can
understand why these laws are
seen as unconstitutional. If the
if there's parental consent,
what are you going to do, but
they should at least go out and
get some good information. And
the SIOP of would you rather
I've seen it happen so many
times Do you want a dead
daughter or a living son? And
and it Oh, they'll he'll be
he'll commit suicide if you
don't give this to your
daughter. That is just factually
not true. And so there's no
other debate really. There's
just no other debate. That's all
that it has to be. And so what
this has gone is you know, now
we're down to the book bannings
which is also something that
only my favorite people in Utah,
the you know, that 90 parent
went in and said, and they got
the Bible taken out of the
school because it has horrible
horrific things in it, which is
true. That's an interesting move
they made and it just it got
overturned and the Bible is
back. But yeah, I mean, so it's
history like is slick is very
tricky. But the bottom line is
the science is just not in on
this stuff. That's all and
that's what these movies show.
That's the problem. That's what
the what act whatever.
John C Dvorak: Banning the
information, there's a giveaway
there that there's something
amiss. That's
Adam Curry: exactly right. I
feel like that myself, What are
you drinking today Johnny Boy,
John C Dvorak: polar seltzer
100% natural is 100%
Adam Curry: He
Unknown: 700 frickin percent and
with
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who put the sea and scandalous
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the one and only Mr. Johnson
John C Dvorak: in the morning to
Mr. Adam curry also in the
morning no chips to see boots on
the ground air feet near
substitute boots on the ground
feed the air subs in the water
and all the names on nights out
there
Adam Curry: count 19 115 Trolls
at this moment. 1915 So that's
up for a Sunday. That's good.
All things considered. Seeing as
we lost at least five people in
that sub he said subs in the
water. I don't know if they're
gonna hear it, John. They ran
out of air this morning. It's
not good. I thought
John C Dvorak: today was
Thursday. Yeah, Thursday. That's
did i What did I say? said
Sunday.
Adam Curry: I'm on drugs. You
know what? It's
John C Dvorak: a lousy. No.
Adam Curry: It's a shoot sick
crap number. No,
John C Dvorak: no, I'm sorry.
It's a good number. Sunday's is
lousy number.
Adam Curry: It would be lousy.
Lousy. Yeah, it's a good number
for Thursday. You know, I had my
new teeth put in Yes. My new
temps actually. Okay, does that
sound good?
John C Dvorak: Yes, I'm fine.
Don't sound any different to me.
Adam Curry: Okay. The I think
I'm more happy right now. I'm
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John C Dvorak: think I was
referring something and then we
both agreed on this robot. What
was it? Yeah, you can be wrong.
Adam Curry: No, you were No,
you'd like to hold on a second.
You can find like the
John C Dvorak: non birthing
caretaker. I like the the Mao
misused monks ship by Perry. Non
happy non burning caregiver day.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: with my piece I like
Yes. And
John C Dvorak: and you just
thought it was a mess. And it
was in you're colorblind and you
couldn't see it. And it was you
didn't like it anyway. And then
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And then
Adam Curry: hold on, hold on. I
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looked at the Scaramanga piece
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, there's
no dig is hadn't showed it's a
beautiful piece it really the
one I got my pick was based on
the humor kind of of it. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. belittling the
holiday somewhat.
Adam Curry: Which is always
Yeah, we don't like to belittle
the holiday we are tradition.
Heaven forbid
John C Dvorak: we do that
Adam Curry: traditional man. You
got the robot you can follow
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know that
John C Dvorak: yeah, it's kind
of
Adam Curry: Father's Day because
you always get these new sound
machines and then you just
overdo it. use them sparingly.
This one sounds like a bagpipe
being
John C Dvorak: a cost. Maybe guy
just for me it is a turkey call.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Because it sounds
like a turkey.
John C Dvorak: Does you ever do
you get turkeys around here and
they yell at you they make
noises.
Adam Curry: Okay, so I want you
to go out after the show and
Luer a turkey and with that,
okay?
John C Dvorak: Do we all have
the front yard, I'll take a
picture.
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Miles doesn't seem like a lot
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John C Dvorak: 5000 miles a year
yeah. sappy unless you have a
commute that's pretty common.
Yeah. And he says no jingles no
karma so my mileage I don't
drive it
Adam Curry: no no jingles no
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John C Dvorak: He keeps come in
before and it's I haven't heard
him for a while. I'm glad to
hear from him. Bowman McMahon
and Utopia Texas came in with
233 3.33 donations. Which makes
me wonder if was a mistake and
is no note to be found anywhere
even though Jays like freaked
out about it. So we don't know
what I love.
Adam Curry: She goes. Check your
emails. check emails, gentlemen,
there's no no there's two of
these donations. It does seem
kind of weird. You'd have two
identical donations and no
notes. So
John C Dvorak: I've taken it.
I'm of the opinion that we're
going to end up losing half of
this money.
Adam Curry: That's okay. Well,
we're happy to return it if that
was a mistake. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And I also know
it would be nice to read
anything he has to say
Adam Curry: given the double up
karma that we usually hand out
and he's got
John C Dvorak: Where is where is
in fact, utopia? Texas.
Adam Curry: I don't know. I
don't know. It's not I don't
think it's actually that far
from here. To be honest,
John C Dvorak: you're a rocket
Texas's No. No, Texas big men
that rocket Texas.
Adam Curry: What did you do in
rocket Texas?
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
where they had the big giant
Super Collider. They were
building and I was given a tour
of it.
Adam Curry: Is it still there?
No, no, it's
John C Dvorak: once it this is
George Bush project out who is
the George Bush? Ronald Reagan.
I can't remember whoever was I
think Obama killed it or Clinton
kill it. One of them someone
killed Democrats killed it?
Because it was it was good
because it was gonna work. And
so when I was in rocket, Texas
that's when I was introduced to
some to some of the greatest
chicken fried steak at some Cafe
Cafe whose name I forgotten in
rocket Texas.
Adam Curry: Yeah, we definitely
could not have anything like
that working that would ruin the
oil industry. Why even do it in
Texas, you know nuts.
John C Dvorak: When I was for
research purposes, it wasn't
really going to hurt the oil
industry. But anyway, onward
Adam Curry: Chris angler in
Ancaster Ontario. Candidate
we're already at Associate
Executive Producer $250.73 I
wonder if he's a ham 70 threes
this donations Reese is donation
is a 50th birthday gift to
myself a belated Happy birthday
to my nephew Eli and a Happy
belated Father's Day to my dad
Fritz. I'd appreciate a
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podcasting.
Unknown: Oh my god. To
Adam Curry: go Happy Birthday if
he isn't him by the way, this
Saturday is Field Day. So you
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Got to be hey got your rigs
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John C Dvorak: shirt Christopher
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birthday and all the Sharpton
you can bear thank you both for
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Valley
Adam Curry: and I guess just Kim
right because we don't have a
hit Sir Christopher I guess
that's his first name so we're
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Carolina also short ROA ducks
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John C Dvorak: don't have any he
didn't give a miss sharp didn't
jingle I'm sorry
Adam Curry: I misunderstood I
had no I didn't misunderstand I
just didn't listen. That's what
I did wrong.
Unknown: ESP I see T
Adam Curry: is just such a
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North Carolina also the short
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ducks for the cause I have not
heard this in a while but I
needed D douche bag check. Oh,
hold on a second. bag check that
we had a jingle for that de
douche bag check.
John C Dvorak: It was bag Jack.
Doors bag check
Adam Curry: so we needed that
first buddy Jay onward, sir.
Loud pipes Baron of Mecklenburg
County. Thank you very much.
John C Dvorak: John Spigel
especially pronounced Spiegel it
looks like Spiegel but it's
pronounced Spiegel? Rochester,
New York. Switcheroo I'm making
this Father's Day donation to my
dad's name. Steven Spiegel. We
both have been listening to show
for a couple of years and we
regret that it took so long to
find it. Yeah, thanks everyone.
Longtime to find it. It's a
podcast. Please de douche.
Hamish
Unknown: you've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: this donation is
the least I can do and does not
the least you can do you could
do a lot man I always do the
least for the man that
introduced me to the three most
important things in my life
Jesus Christ critical thinking
and skiing please hit him with
some help Sharpton resist very
much and the Jide jingles. Happy
Father's Day to my dad and to
all the fathers out there and
thank you, John and Adam and
keep up the good work John
Spiele Rochester New York but
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Unknown: we must. We must and we
will much about that. Becoming a
GOP inviting is escalating.
Political says Democrats are
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Adam Curry: so I'm looking for
these. What do you remember this
one? Yeah, I'm gonna put that in
the end of show. That's like a
minute. That's
John C Dvorak: a good good song.
Yeah, yeah, I'm
Adam Curry: gonna put that in
the end of show. That's pretty
funny. Okay, do that. Do Can you
do the next one? Well, I put
this in Yeah, Linda
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John C Dvorak: yes, we wind it
up with Yeah, last on the list
is crystal blindness blindness.
In Jackson, Wyoming, no note. So
that's 200 bucks and give him a
double up karma.
Adam Curry: You got it. There we
go. You've got karma. Well,
spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. We
have no nice things today.
Again, yes, again, and we can go
pretty quickly. There's not a
lot of there's not a lot
actually. So if you just take us
through the 50s. We'll we'll
move on and do our birthdays and
and get to the second half of
the show. With a sound effect.
John C Dvorak: All right, we'll
start with Deborah. The shad TA
and or shelter Shetler, the
Shetler as she is in for 150
bucks and I have to read this
because switcheroo I'm donating
as a douche de douching birthday
gift to the love of my life.
Mike mesic turned me on to your
show. Tell him his koala loves
him very much. To give me the
division.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: Alright, there we
go is hacking, hacking hacking
hacking, which is pronounced
some other way I can get the
Adam Curry: heck off I can hack
an activist Andreessen is hacker
was Andreessen is good to know.
It's Andreessen I know I have it
on good authority.
John C Dvorak: Portland, Oregon.
Sorry to hear that part. $150
laughed out loud when he heard
us trying to pronounce his name,
Jason Bible, or bibble Oh by,
Adam Curry: actually his
donation Haqqani is a switcheroo
for his brother, Mads K Oh,
sorry, I
John C Dvorak: should have read
that. It's gonna match Mads K
Adam Curry: and he's got a
birthday coming up. So that's
why he switch routed and we'll
make it so.
John C Dvorak: Jason by Bible in
Austin, Texas. 120 12 Mary Smith
and Stuart, Florida $100. Robin,
sir Steve in San Jose,
California. $100 is a switch
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Last night again, his
Adam Curry: wife lost their
beloved companion of 17 years
Ben the cat.
John C Dvorak: Oh, seven years
is a long time for a cat. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that is a lot. It is
a long time for a cat
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Adam Curry: Giovanni I'll say
Jed of Nietzsche
John C Dvorak: is in Chechnya.
Yes. 606. CZ used to be check
those logs see catchy and
nowadays, not the Czech
Republic.
Adam Curry: I think Alex is I
think Alex is one of our trans
listeners. Oh, trans trans
jester
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Adam Curry: I just got to go
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to put my affairs in order. I
was researching donating my body
to a medical school right when I
heard the story about the rat.
No agenda. I took it as a omen
to donate about the heads. This
John C Dvorak: desk yeah see
Adam Curry: we will saving you
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Unknown: No one said
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Go to one of the no agenda
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Unknown: sir Scott the Jew here
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honestly, this meetup kind of
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jester people.
There's nobody playing the sitar
ITM from Serge JMO black bear in
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Unknown: Sometimes you want to
go hang out with Dyson days.
You'd be you'd be everybody say
is like a pot.
Adam Curry: It is just like a
pot. I only have two ISOs I
don't think they're very good
yet. What do you have?
John C Dvorak: I only have one
ISO Well, let
Adam Curry: me play your one.
Nice. Oh, here I have it. Okay,
let's listen to it.
Unknown: Hush up, boy.
Adam Curry: Okay, I kind of
liked that one. I have it's
chicken. Now it's not
understandable. This one? Yeah.
No, I think hotshot boy wins.
Hands down. Hush up boy. Yeah.
Not racist at all. Love it.
Biden. Biden, Biden. The gang
keeps on giving. Yeah, he's the
gangsta. You may be right about
that. I like how you figured
that one out. So I wanted to
read these two notes. Cuz they
came in almost back to back
about ups. You know, so they're
talking about their strike. And
you remember we talked about
this write ups. He says this is
UPS Chris. In the morning, John.
I'm running this boots on the
ground report regarding Adams
recent coverage of the impending
UPS strike. I'm relatively new
member of the teamsters union as
a full time driver at UPS for
two years. Your deconstruction
of this segment was superb. The
key issue did mention is that
the corruption past present the
corrupt past president of the
Union, James Hoffa was able to
push through a contract in 2018,
the members had voted down by
54%. This two thirds rule has
since been abolished by the
current president of the Union
Sean O'Brien. This contract
allowed the company to implement
two tiered wage system for full
time drivers COVID conveniently
happened and then the company
which it typically never does
started to hire tons of new full
timers off the street due to
massive increase in volume. The
full time rate as a driver after
four years at UPS is $42.50 an
hour. Due to the sketchy
language in the current
contract. There are full time
drivers doing the same work for
significantly less about 20 to
25 an hour, so we see the
disparity here. Now these are
still good rates. But the key
here is to see through what the
media portrays as wins for the
Union. No one mentions no
mention of increasing pensions
increasing part time or paid to
offset the massive turnover,
creating more even paying full
time jobs etc. And the air
conditioning is indeed a joke.
We love our jobs. We drive with
the doors open in and out
hundreds of times a day. We
don't need a see any veteran
driver can show the way when it
comes to cooling down off the
job. So then I got a note from
an an Amazon UPS Honda driver.
And he says, Oh yeah, I want to
give you boots on the ground.
Amazon drivers that are using
their Honda's to deliver
packages for no money is
absolutely true. This is a UPS
outsources the Amazon packages
that UPS is supposed to deliver
to these guys and they're
Honda's, I'm one of them. The
way it works is Amazon has a sub
contracting program called
Amazon flex. They touted to be
the greatest gig ever work when
you want to earn $22 an hour.
But what they do not tell you is
they only offer work in two
three and four hour blocks. So
getting a full day's work is
next to impossible. And you want
to spend some more time checking
for the offers than working
them. They over hire to keep a
liquid workforce and offer
distribution. In first come
first serve. You're battling
people for the offers. If you
see an offer on your phone, then
a bunch of other people see the
same thing. The first one to
accept it gets it. It's almost
like bidding war over the work
that they can keep the base rate
for blacks very low. They treat
you like a delivery drone. So he
has this very long note which
I'm not going to read all
verbatim but he says that at
first when you start the program
you get all these offers and Do
you get oh, like, oh, Whole
Foods three blocks away, this is
great. And then the offers start
to dry up. And he says, you
know, then all sudden, I get a
four hour warehouse block where
I have to drive for two hours
and 100 miles for $66.
Basically, I'm driving for free.
And of course, once you accept
one, it's like Uber, you know,
it's like, oh, here comes offer,
boom, you go. And then you start
not getting these pieces of
work. And here's the problem. He
found out that there's no secure
connection, as he calls it
between the offers and the app
that you use to, to hit the
offers with. And there's a whole
bunch of bots and app bots that
can use SERP this, these offers
before it goes into alert mode
on the phone. So typically, now
you've got your phone on, you
get a bloop you get alert, you
tap on it, you try and get it
right away. And it's always
gone. That's because they
figured out you know,
unscrupulous individuals have
figured out how to grab that
before it becomes alert and
they're scooping up all the
money. And he says this thing is
a total scam. In addition to
that, all the call centers are
outsourced to India. So if
something doesn't work, or
something's gone wrong, I can't
communicate with the people.
They don't understand me. I
don't understand him them. And
he gives a whole bunch of links
to GitHub repos if you want to
get on and get in on the scam
and get those offers early. But
this is not sound like the ups
that we that we love and adore.
As the you know, the King of
Queens type type job is just you
know, they're diluting it into
cheap gig work, which is
probably why a lot of the
packages and delivery sucks. I
think these two gentlemen for
the courage for bringing us the
boots on the ground, we never
would have known about this.
Okay. Then I have some climate
change stuff we need to discuss.
Actually, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
We can do climate change bill. I
could do climate change now.
Actually a balloon do some big
pharma as better. I'll do it.
What time are we at? Yeah, I'll
do just a couple here. Dr. Jen,
Dr. Janice, Judy, all about the
new COVID shots coming this
fall. Get ready, everybody,
you'll want to have them you
want to be getting right in on
that action?
Unknown: All right, we're
talking about a new vaccine,
pretty much an update for COVID.
So let me tee this up for you
guys. Remember how when there
was all this confusion about
which vaccine when to get the
vaccine, the booster, the new
variant version, all of this as
it was evolving over the last
three years. Now we have word
from the FDA that we can expect
in this country this fall to
have a newer COVID-19 vaccine
that incorporates the latest
circulating strains just as we
do with the influenza vaccine,
which is good news right because
before we had the bio valent
booster we were still using the
same vaccine from the original
wild type Coronavirus genetic
fingerprint.
Adam Curry: Notice what she says
from the original wild type
Coronavirus, genetic
fingerprint, ie you didn't have
the virus
Unknown: from the original wild
type Coronavirus, genetic
fingerprint, we need to evolve
the vaccines to be current with
the strains that are
circulating. So
Adam Curry: just didn't they
have all these? Oh, this new
booster is upgraded for the
Omicron this new beat this what
they did? Yeah, now all of a
sudden we were still using the
old Wild
Unknown: forces Dr. Jim vaccine
from the original wild type
Coronavirus, genetic
fingerprint, we need to evolve
the vaccines to be current with
the strains that are
circulating. So x bb 1.5, as if
that doesn't just roll off the
tip of your tongue that's most
likely going to be in the fall
version. But they have to make
this calculated guesstimate as
to what will be circulating. But
I
Adam Curry: want guesstimate
Yeah, just like the flu vaccine
is one a guesstimate
Unknown: calculated guesstimate
as to what will be circulating
in the country. Now the benefit
of this new mRNA technology is
that within 100
John C Dvorak: We have a new
mRNA technology now. Yeah, it's
called
Adam Curry: guesstimate.
Unknown: It's a guestimation
going on
John C Dvorak: and on about
nothing
Unknown: to what will be
circulating in the country. Now
the benefit of this new mRNA
technology is that within 100
days, we should be able to turn
around a vaccine according to
the circulating strain within
100 days, yeah, three months
about that time but they're
already working on the one that
we should be able to be getting
in the fall. So
you mentioned that flu vaccine
and how we get to every fall,
this is going to become just one
of those things we get. Yes,
exactly. Unless you're in a high
risk group and then you might
need a more frequently, but I
cannot emphasize this enough. So
many, so few Americans have
died.
Adam Curry: Well, if you're,
well, you're a high risk group.
You know, your whatever that is,
I guess,
John C Dvorak: boosters or
booster shots is shot. What do
you need more than one
Adam Curry: because you're a
high risk group. We need to kill
you.
Unknown: assizes enough. So
many. So few Americans have
gotten that by valent booster.
It's part of the reason why it
was quite Vaillant have dropped
down so much.
John C Dvorak: By valent.
Adam Curry: This interesting
question, why don't you toot
your horn every single time she
says it? Okay, I'm sorry with
the horn a little much. You
know, it's baggy trousers. It's
a little much. Anyway. Well, so
by violent by valence, whatever.
But on Sunday, they had the
Today Show with the longest
native ad I've ever seen. What
did you put it on the timer?
Yeah, I was like seven minutes.
doll that's beyond a native ad.
It's all native ad and that's
like buying it, you know, buying
time? Yes. Well, if you listened
to and I only clipped a couple
minutes of it. I just had to
stop. I think it's an overall
industry native ad from Nova
novo, Novartis, novo, Novartis,
they are the inventors of
semaglutide schmegle, lead
submission management and Lego
tide, which is used by
John C Dvorak: we make it sound
like some sort of, yes, that's
correct.
Adam Curry: Which is used by
ozempic and we go V, but the
emphasis was on ozempic. They
did throw in some will go V, but
they really said you know,
parent company. And we know from
the UK that the parent company
Novartis was caught marketing
and paying for marketing, which
is illegal in the UK. Here is
just regular old business. Oh,
yeah. Doing business as usual.
So listen, how the music changes
how the how the you know what
the doctors are saying? Because
that Where'd you get this again,
let's
John C Dvorak: backup today show
the sun today show Sunday.
Additionally, music over the
segment on the Today Show.
Unknown: In December of 2017,
and medication for the treatment
of type two diabetes called
semaglutide was approved by the
FDA. It was sold under the brand
name ozempic. In recent months,
the drug has become a national
phenomenon for different
benefits, weight loss, the talk
of Hollywood, red carpets and
suburban bookclubs oh, by the
Adam Curry: way, notice he says
it was the FDA approved it but
there wasn't for weight loss.
They they approved it for
diabetes just misses that small
little detail is effective.
Unknown: But is it safe for
everyone who's using NBC News
SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT,
Dr. John Taurus as our Sunday.
For decades, it's been an
obsession for millions of
Americans. Are you ready to do
the workout? How to drop those
extra pounds in the old days, it
was all about exercise and
eating better. But now people
looking to lose weight have a
new tool in their arsenal baby.
That hype is real prescription
drugs called semaglutide that
come in a now unmistakable pen
ozempic and will go V the brand
names for semaglutide drugs that
were developed to help people
with type two diabetes and
patients with obesity but with a
desirable side effects with
weight loss. Big names like Elon
Musk Amy Schumer and Chelsea
Handler have admitted taking it
and from celebrities to social
media influencers. This trend
has taken the weight loss right
by shore
everybody looks so great. When I
look around this room I can't
help but wonder is ozempic right
for
me. The ads from parent company
Novo Nordisk and similar ones
for other drugs like Manjaro
from Lilly are inescapable,
plastered over Instagram and
Facebook shaking up the $75
billion weight loss Marcus
popular programs like Weight
Watchers and news are joining
the craze acquiring launching
telehealth programs to offer the
drugs along with their diet
tracking subscriptions are part
of a strategy that recognizes
obesity as a chronic and
potentially deadly disease.
Adam Curry: This is so evil what
these people are doing. And they
throw in there. Is it safe? Yes,
great. It's a tool. It's great
celebrities use it. Everyone
should have it. It's fantastic.
Unknown: How important is that?
Weight Watchers and neum are now
introducing these weight loss
Adam Curry: drugs Weight
Watchers a neum. Get your app
now for their
Unknown: clients.
We can't shoulder this burden
alone and I appreciate that
industry is trying to step up to
the plate.
Adam Curry: Wow. Industry is
trying to step up to the plate
ate. Thank you industry. Thank
you Weight Watchers that you
really are helping humanity
Unknown: works by mimicking a
gut hormone called glucagon like
peptide one or GLP. One, which
regulates insulin levels reduces
appetite and allows patients to
feel fuller longer, the higher
dosage marketed as well. govi
has been FDA approved to treat
people who are overweight or
obese, but is not recommended
for people who don't meet that
standard. With some doctors
sounding the alarm on using all
the Gog for vanity,
you're doing this for short term
gain, you're not going to get
that long term benefit and that
sustained success that we want
for patients that actually do
struggle with disease.
Adam Curry: So it's a disease.
If you if you're not really
overweight, you just want to
look great, then you use the
ozempic. Otherwise, you've got
the Wigo V. These people are
shameless, then Oh, and by the
way, here's where you can get
it. neum and weightwatchers. i
This is where I stopped it. This
is the problem. This is the
problem right here. And I'm I'm
going to say right now put it in
the Red Book. We're going to
find out that oh, yeah, it turns
out people who use ozempic And
we'll go we did dying I didn't
expect that. I just feels like
it's another death thing. Well,
the
John C Dvorak: problem is the
way I see it. The way I see it,
it was just approved What 2019
Adam Curry: It was not with Gopi
was only recently approved.
John C Dvorak: By me saying this
this basic, the basic the base
Yeah, the other one, which is
the high dose, it's like well,
okay, whatever basic product
Adam Curry: for for diabetes was
approved react in 2019.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's not
enough time. That's not even 10
years of data. Don't know what's
gonna happen, your hair could
fall out. I mean, there are side
effects already including
pancreatitis, unis. That
aggravation.
Adam Curry: In fact, hair hair
loss is one of the reported
John C Dvorak: hair loss is a
business issue until people
shouldn't be taken anything
that's this drastic, which is
drastic. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Adam Curry: Now, but it's also
it's also you know, it's, it's
like the epitome it's, it's
Idiocracy. But I'm eating crap.
I got fat.
Unknown: Give me a shot. You
watch you stop eating,
Adam Curry: or are you trying to
eat try and eat something
healthy? You don't hear Dr. Jenn
talking about that. Huh? Anyway,
the way the healthcare works in
the United States, this would be
my last clip is, is as the
following. It's all about the
money people. Never saw Perez
Unknown: had a virulent case of
COVID and pneumonia when she
arrived at this HCA hospital in
2021. She was just 42 years old.
Doctors put her on a ventilator
and into a coma. But after
kidney failure and a series of
mini strokes common and COVID.
About a month after her
admission, common in COVID, DAF
began urging her mother Alma
Salas to transfer her daughter
to end of life care and let her
die.
I felt like he was trying to
pressure me Hey, do you really
want to live your life taking
care of your daughter in a
vegetative state for the next 30
years?
I slipped down I'm an acid. I'm
not gonna do it. I'm not gonna
let her go.
Another time she says six or
seven HCA staff members gathered
at her daughter's bedside urging
her to enter treatment. One
nurse Allah says was very
aggressive and came in
repeatedly
Sheila really angry I was like
taken aback.
The pressure solace describes
existed some of HCA other 170
Plus hospitals, staff are
pressed to get patients into
hospice, where life saving
treatments are withdrawn. And
the incentive is not necessarily
patient care, but the
improvement of hospital
performance metrics. Because if
a patient dies in hospice, even
in the same hospital bed, their
death will not be counted in the
hospital's mortality statistics,
a key factor used by those who
rate hospital quality and the
better the rating the better for
business. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Kill them. Just kill
them. Kill them, kill them, kill
them. All right now you have to
get us out of here with
something upbeat, uplifting and
fun.
John C Dvorak: Well, I have a
few things left. Let's go into
how we can do this. This. This
is not uplifting or a beat or
downbeat. This is not bad. This
is just interesting to me. Okay.
But then again, let's skipped
out just for the next show.
Blinken on Taiwan. This is
Blinken selling out the United
States and selling out Taiwan to
Taiwan thing is never going to
there's never going to be a war
over Taiwan
Unknown: on Taiwan are
reiterated the longest Adding us
one China policy, that policy
has not changed. It's guided by
the Taiwan Relations Act. Three,
joint communique is the sixth
assurances, we do not support
Taiwan independence, we remain
opposed to any unilateral
changes to the status quo by
either side. We continue to
expect the peaceful resolution
of cross strait differences.
Adam Curry: I don't understand
this. You have to explain. I
have heard this I'll be like
what, how does this even work?
Like we do try no lawyer the
minute the minute do anything,
Taiwan, we're gonna we want to
get our F 16 is just we're gonna
do an amendment. And now it's
like, well, but no, it's like,
we don't support China as being
independent. How does this work?
John C Dvorak: They don't
support it. There's a document
that we signed some years ago, I
guess, that the Chinese have
thrown in our face and said,
Hey, look, you you're not going
to support. Hey, look, you're
not going to support Taiwanese
independence. You shouldn't be
talking so much about it. You're
talking too much. And so this is
Blinken 's okay, we're going to
talk about it anymore. And he
got a little kicker in there,
which is that ever the status
quo, which is the main thing he
went around, nobody's talking
about that. But which is a good
thing, because status quo means
nothing's going to change. But
it still sounds like a weenie
the guy's a weenie.
Adam Curry: I do have something
that will be fun to listen to.
From the Irish Green Party,
Senator Paulino Riley. There is
an act that is being set up. I
guess it's only in Ireland, the
incitement to violence act. And
with incitement to violence, it
basically means if you make
someone feel bad, I think we'll
listen to this short clip when
you
Unknown: think about it, or law,
or legislation is about the
restriction of freedom. That's
exactly what we're doing here is
we are restricting freedom, but
we're doing it for the common
good. You will see throughout
our Constitution, yes, you have
rights, or they are restricted
for the common good. Everything
needs to be balanced. And if
your views on other people's
identities, go to make their
lives unsafe or insecure, and
cause them such deep discomfort
that they cannot live in peace,
then I believe that it is our
job as legislators to restrict
those freedoms for the common
good.
Adam Curry: And so the what I
heard is, if you don't use
someone's pronouns, which of
course is violence, then you're
going to be penalized by the law
exactly what she said. And I
would like to remind everybody
in the United States we have the
Constitution and the Bill of
Rights and the amendments and
it's all meant to restrict
government not to restrict your
rights you have the rights is to
restrict the the restrict the
government from doing anything
to your rights, which inherently
means all people have these
rights. So there's no such thing
as extra rights that anybody
needs. Am I right? Am I right
you're
John C Dvorak: dead on
Adam Curry: I don't know why
that happened. It's like a new a
new little jingle we should use
All right, everybody. For end of
show I've got the resists. We
much we Jide
John C Dvorak: though yes, I'm
great into show clips. I heard
him earlier. Yeah, definitely
Adam Curry: some good ones. We
got Jesse coy Nelson, Sir
Michael Anthony and Geez laughs
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in the morning, everybody. I'm
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
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Hui.
Unknown: We interrupt your
programming to bring you this
breaking news
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right. God save the Queen man.
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the Queen, man go
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All
over Schoen always knew that one
day we beat the mayor. 33 years
ago, the voice in my head told
me you finna be the most
powerful black and brown man of
color on the globe of New York
City. Behold, the process is
folks. I'd be reading about the
apocalypse in the Bible. Boom.
And I'm like, that's how you get
stuff done. The seven plagues,
Corona, monkeypox, climate
change, white supremacists the
Michelson theast COVID.
Passports and the Lake of Fire
mostly peaceful protests. I
don't believe in the separation
of church and state the Bible
say we in the end, so I'm gonna
make sure we accomplish the
apocalypse
under shelter need some say
about this? He knows we know
they are lying. They know they
are lying. They know we know
they're lying. We know they know
we know they're lying. But they
are still alive.
The cash is like picking out the
trash no sign unnecessary when
my software does it for me. I'm
using cookies definitely not a
rookie John see ahead of his
time. Just time watching fever
fry. That lawyer Canadian guy in
the morning was last time it was
sound in Canada try offends you
all senses when you put on a
mask? I preferred you said
you're Googling me like cast
crafting the narrative can be
like casting a spell did not the
early treatment how we got back
to the cell tape this
experimental treatment and do
not tell shot to the heart. I'm
not doing well. I like what
comedians do when standing up on
a stage school ballislife
disaster in the world for
humanitarian aid and as you
define the international crowd
as what they say laws must be
passed to really make Russia pay
more than a trillion the
confiscated today. Not given
that bags oh wait, podcast and
listen in the podcast too fast
as I can use a break like a pod
fast.
Adam Curry: That's all the media
has left to do. The M five F
hedge has boiled down to
complaining about other news
organizations. I think that
bores everybody.
John C Dvorak: The producers
want you to just do what you
just described. Yes. As opposed
to actually doing real work.
Yes. What are you gonna do? This
is great. Oh, I all I have to do
is get a bunch of clips of my my
compat competition and Misha by
Tucker Carlson. I can do that
till the cows come home.
Unknown: boruch.org/in A
hush your boy.