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October 8th, 2023 • 3h 6m

1597: Honorifics

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John C Dvorak: Putting your mind instead of saying you bet say
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yep, yeah.
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Adam Curry: Adam curry, John C Devorah. Rain 2023 This Year
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Unknown: This is no agenda. We're counting to
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Adam Curry: seven and broadcasting live from the heart
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of the Texas Hill Country he and FEMA reason number six in the
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morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where they're
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cheering something. I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Unknown: Buzzkill.
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Adam Curry: What are they cheering in northern Silicon
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Valley?
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John C Dvorak: It's 40. Niners Oh, okay.
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Adam Curry: in Rotterdam, they're cheering to. To what?
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Oh, it's Palestinians on the street. Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, no.
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This is true. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. All over Europe. They do
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this by a Palestinian flag. I mean, off it's I wouldn't say
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it's Palestinians. I mean, it's not even a country but okay.
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They're waving the Palestine flag. And, and celebrating and
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hooting and Hoot and hooting and hollering Oh yeah. So this is
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one of those days when it's like I love doing the show but it's
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all these types of events that happen particularly when it
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involves Israel become so polarizing and and also amongst
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the no agenda nation and people go nuts
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John C Dvorak: I'm well we have these issues once in a while I
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do have some clips from NBC. But when it began, I thought that
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NBC did I think a very good job of covering the whole thing
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because they had of course Richard angle
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Adam Curry: da so they had the spook angle from angle
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John C Dvorak: and find it and the great thing is I've got
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these four clips, and it was really the whole show but they
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they bring Engel in they actually have this really good
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foreign correspondent now this guy I think is Rafa or Ralph
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Garcia, I think is our Lopez. He's good. He's on the scene.
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He's giving actual reports. He's not making stuff up. He's not
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giving CIA talking. Please
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Adam Curry: come on and be it's NBC. Yeah, true. Okay, good. And
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then
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John C Dvorak: they cut to Richard angle. And
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Adam Curry: then the talking points come in. Who's in
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Istanbul,
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which is where you are, which is where you got to be if you have
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important news from Israel.
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John C Dvorak: So let's play these clips and we'll get it
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started.
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Unknown: Good evening. We begin tonight with one of America's
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closest allies attacked and now at war. The scenes this morning
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across.
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Adam Curry: Hold on a second. There is something is wrong with
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this report right off the bat. This makes no sense. I don't
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understand. Because every single report I have includes, you
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know, you know, the important sound effects
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John C Dvorak: is coming. Oh, it's coming. Okay. It's coming
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on your horses,
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Unknown: and unprecedented and terrifying. Palestinian militant
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group Hamas choosing a Jewish holiday to launch an attack on
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and into Israel. There was the barrage of rockets into Israel,
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but also incursions by militants. These were the scenes
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of commerce fighters storming across and
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Adam Curry: kudos kudos for the Hamas pronunciation. I have to
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say I'm very impressed Hamas is spot on
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Unknown: the border marauding through the streets of Israel
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come out confirming it has taken an unconfirmed number of
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hostages soldiers and civilians dragged from the streets and
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Israeli official calling today. Their 911 Israel's response so
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far has been swift but only just beginning. They've already
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leveled entire buildings in Gaza. The territory this home to
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Hamas, the death
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Adam Curry: Hey, he messed it up. He did a Hamas already
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leveled
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Unknown: entire buildings in Gaza. The territory this home to
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Hamas. Oh, he missed the Hamas. The death toll is at least 200
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people on each side and is expected to rise. Our teams are
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across the region and here in the US. We begin with rough
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patches on the ground in Israel.
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Adam Curry: And I'd have to say I have to point out as
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John C Dvorak: well. This is rough Sanchez, I get
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Adam Curry: close. I point out from the beginning. John and I
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are evaluating this from a media perspective. So please don't get
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all bent out of shape saying you're laughing at people dead
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you're laughing at people being tortured. No, we're not. No,
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we're not. We are deconstructing the media for you.
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John C Dvorak: This morning the head of the IDF came out and
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gave new numbers which nobody else has given no, he says the
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Adam Curry: past we talk we just have to have this underneath
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says of 700
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John C Dvorak: Dead Israeli so far plus 2000 injured plus 100
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hostages. And those are the base numbers. I think those are the
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more accurate ones. That's so we bring sanch which is what was
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the Sanchez fans? This guy's good.
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Adam Curry: All right more from Sanchez. Here we go.
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John C Dvorak: This guy's good. Oh,
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Adam Curry: hold on a second. Not only he's he's good, but
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they've got the report setup. Yeah, here we go. Here we go.
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All right get ready for this package
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Unknown: it looks like a scene from Israel's darkest nightmare.
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John C Dvorak: A surprise by the way, stop stop. So if you notice
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there was saying, Oh, this is their 911 This is their Pearl
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Harbor. I can nobody says it's there January sixth, which was
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obviously worse,
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Adam Curry: which was Oh, yeah. Good point. Thank you.
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Unknown: It looks like a scene from Israel's darkest nightmare.
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A surprise attack beginning with 1000s of rockets, followed by
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waves of heavily armed Palestinian gunmen pouring out
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of Gaza. And onto the streets of cities and towns across southern
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Israel. The militants taking whole families hostage, marching
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them barefoot through their own neighborhoods. And then Allah
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cries of triumph as they spirit their captives back to Gaza.
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This woman, bloodied zip tied and terrified, struggling as
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she's forced into the back of a captured Israeli military.
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Adam Curry: Interesting. I don't know if it was the same report,
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but this this. This is a zip tied and terrified. This is what
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I'm hearing. I'm hearing this everywhere zip ties and
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terrified, very interesting little meme they've created
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here. zip tied and terrified, has a nice ring to it. Well,
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yeah, it's yes, of course it does is this Media
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Unknown: Woman bloody zip tied and terrified, struggling as
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she's forced into the back of a captured Israeli military Jeep
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and hear the body of an Israeli soldier dragged from the turret
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of a tank and beaten by the mob. Israel's military tonight
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confirming there are both civilians and soldiers among the
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captives. Their exact number is unknown. But the army says all
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options are on the table, including a full scale ground
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invasion of Gaza to bring them home as Israel's Prime Minister
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telling his people, citizens of Israel, we are at war, not in an
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operation. But at war. And every hour the death toll rising,
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these civilians killed at a bus stop.
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Adam Curry: Question. Because this is interesting. He said
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we're at we're at war not in an operation. Yeah, that's
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interesting.
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John C Dvorak: That is interesting to usage.
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Adam Curry: Yeah. I mean, Russia against Ukraine was special
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operation, which I guess is not a war. So there's a difference
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between or maybe it's just, you know, this is not an operation
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short for up. It's almost as long for block long for up. It's
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almost like saying this is not on our people. It's not up
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John C Dvorak: like every time. The other time, like most of the
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times it's
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Adam Curry: not an OP people. This is war, full
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Unknown: scale ground invasion of Gaza to bring them home.
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Because Israel's Prime Minister telling his people, citizens of
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Israel, we are at war, not in an operation, but at war. And every
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hour the death toll rising
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Adam Curry: that's almost like 911 You know, they were in and
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they were doing an OP a test up and then it became live or
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whatever. You know, there's always interesting little little
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parallels here.
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Unknown: These civilians killed at a bus stop. And in this
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kibbutz victims packed into a small room and executed at point
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blank range. The surprise attack led by highly trained fighters
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from Hamas and Islamic Jihad. blasting their way through the
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security barrier separating Israel from Gaza. In some places
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using bulldozers to smash through this unit fighting into
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the areas border crossing the main terminal between Israel and
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Gaza, usually tightly controlled by Israeli troops, the crossing
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today, completely overrun by Palestinian fighters. Israel's
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military caught badly off guard searching its forces into the
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south fighting street by street across more than 20 locations as
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it tries to regain control.
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Adam Curry: Now, there's something I'm missing here in
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this report, and I don't understand because NPR had it
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was NPR who had the the parent the paragliders was that it was
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that in this report?
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John C Dvorak: It would this report took the whole half hour
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or so. There were some there were shots of the parent at the
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paraglider thing is still somewhat I think, is somewhat
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they've shown shots of it.
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Adam Curry: Here's here's me. Do you mind if I just play one
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clip? Yeah, sure. Jump in. Here's NPR.
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Unknown: I mean for hours that have just been shocking scenes
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that have shocked Israelis and Palestinians who've I've spoken
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with, and this is still unfolding. And it started this
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morning early when heavily armed Palestinian militants in Gaza
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flew across the border on paragliders. They swam through
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the Mediterranean Sea, they drove overland with pickup
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trucks through Israel's fortified border fence. And they
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infiltrated several Israeli military camps and at least five
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Israeli communities near Gaza, where there are gun battles. Now
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with Israeli forces. That's including the town of de wrote,
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which we're hearing from Israeli public broadcasting, there are
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at least 10 bodies now covered on the ground. And so at the
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very same time, you have this other kind of attack, which is
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1000s of rockets fired from Gaza toward southern and central,
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I'll just stop it there.
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Adam Curry: I saw the footage of the these paragliders they have
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footage of them getting ready of them launching of them landing
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and landing right into a base. I mean, I was getting and by the
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way, I think this has been pulled. Well, every single one
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of these shocking images that the news is talking about comes
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all from social media. I had them all before they were
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reporting on it, you know, from the usual channels, and it's and
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everyone's talking about the same images. I mean, not saying
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that bad stuff didn't happen, but this is over and over again.
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It's the same things. They don't really
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John C Dvorak: have any extra paragliders stuff, which I found
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to be weird.
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Adam Curry: Well, there's footage of it but it looks like
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promo footage almost
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John C Dvorak: was the footage that I've seen footage of it
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Yeah, and it's still stupid
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Adam Curry: at home I'm sorry we're not we're not doing our
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report properly. Yeah. Still stupid.
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John C Dvorak: It's it's like what's the point is the guy up
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there shooting at 45 down at people? What is this one guy
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going to do a sneak he's going to land in a base by in bed. No
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one's going to notice and they're not going to just gun
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him down. It's this paraglider thing
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Adam Curry: this is exactly the narrative this is exactly what
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they're saying. The video shows
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John C Dvorak: it's been pulled I'm telling you you do your NPR
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D you won't hear any more about the paraglider I'm
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Adam Curry: glad we got to be in the swimming pool I know there's
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some reports like that air air air power you know this is a fan
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strapped to your back by the way I gotta get me one of these.
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This is cool for the hill country is flying around well,
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it might be
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John C Dvorak: if he got calm weather it's no you don't want
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to be used to be popular around here. Those and some other
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there's some other little super lightweight thing that had a
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little prop behind it. That's
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Adam Curry: auto gyro. Yeah, there's
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John C Dvorak: still popular No, no, I'm not sure I know what an
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auto gyro is. I'm talking about us. Super lightweight has a wing
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right? Auto gyros used to also be popular around here in the in
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the Fremont area when it was all agricultural and I was a kid
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auto gyros are all over.
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Adam Curry: I love auto gyros these days are like little mini
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cars.
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John C Dvorak: They're blank. Now these are called ultra light
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weights. And they had a wing
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Adam Curry: you know they had the wing. Yeah, the fit the like
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a delta delta wing. Big
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John C Dvorak: giant thing. Yeah. And they were I remember
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about 20 years ago. There's a whole slew of them flying around
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the bay. But Bay this Bay Area's not a place for any of these
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things because we have these gusts of wind and sometimes it
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gets really windy and the all these guys got killed.
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Adam Curry: Oh, that's no good. Well,
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John C Dvorak: not much different than a paraglider
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which is another thing
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Adam Curry: is a power power guy. I don't think it's a
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paraglider thing it's a they
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John C Dvorak: kept calling him Paragon Well, that's
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Adam Curry: not that's not correct.
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John C Dvorak: What anyway, that that I think you're not going to
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hear anything about that anymore. I think that was just
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thrown in there. I don't know why or why or what, but there's
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an OP aspect to it. Let's go to clip to power parachute.
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Adam Curry: That's the actual
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Unknown: Prime Minister Netanyahu vowed to avenge the
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attack by Hamas saying quote,
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oh, sorry,
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the enemy will pay a price like they have never known before.
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Chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel joins us now
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Richard, what likely happens next?
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Well, I think we're gonna see it Israeli military response. The
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only question is how big it will be. And Israel in the past has
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not been shy about using its military superior superiority to
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hit Hamas targets in Gaza when Hamas has fired rockets. But the
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real limiting factor here is these hostages because Israel
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launches a broad invasion of Gaza right now it could
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inadvertently kill some of its own citizens. Gaza is densely
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populated. There are many tunnels. It is a place that
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Hamas knows better than Israel, and it is very likely that Hamas
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will put some of these hostages in key locations and use them as
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human shields. So I think what we're gonna see first is a
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period of intelligence gathering before any major Israeli
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operations, the other limiting factor public opinion,
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particularly in the Arab world, if Israel seen as carrying out
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some blanket response against the Palestinians in Gaza, and
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incurring a huge death toll, it could trigger a regional war.
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John C Dvorak: Okay, so he's not even there. He's in Istanbul and
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this isn't a report. This is an analysis. Yeah. Yeah. So they
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had to bring him in for some reason. There he is. Well,
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Adam Curry: I'm surprised he didn't report on what happened
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just two days ago, if he was in Eastern, but maybe he was there
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to report on. I'm just going to interrupt you with another quick
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report from France 24 because this happened later, no, the
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Friday so one day before Richard Engel is in there, he's probably
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ready to report on the other part of what I think is the full
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complete op in the early
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Unknown: hours of Friday turkeys all out barrage of Kurdish
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militant hell, bases in northeastern Syria continued,
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missiles fired and bombs rained down from fighter jets. footage
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released by the Turkish home office during the day even
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appears to show clashes between troops on the ground among their
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targets for strategic infrastructure facilities.
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We are currently at the Bossy station and we can say that the
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damage is around 95% and it is out of operation. The main tanks
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and separators responsible for pumping oil into the pipelines
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are completely out of operation and require long term
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maintenance not.
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After a PKK militant blew himself up outside the Turkish
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home office on Sunday, the Turkish foreign ministry
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announced that all Kurdish workers party positions in Iraq
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and Syria and those of their Syrian allies are now legitimate
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targets and launched a spate of attacks on Thursday morning. The
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Syrian Kurdish YPG militia fired a rocket at a Turkish base on
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Thursday evening, which Turkey cited as justification for its
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continued onslaught from Turkish foreign minister. How can it be
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done? The court is Washington counterpart Antony Blinken on
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Friday after US troops down to Turkish drone, which they say
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was less than 500 meters from their troops. The Pentagon
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called the incident regrettable history but anchor used to call
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to tell its NATO ally in no uncertain terms that the US must
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cease its support for the YPG Kurdish militia, which Turkey
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classes as a terrorist organization to that news
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Adam Curry: kind of went by the wayside. Besides Syria has been
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under attack for gone from for months. And when they don't talk
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about it. No, to done, but he was there.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, he was a maybe that's what he was there
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for us or somebody Miss was misled months important. He
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should well of course, we have the thing that I mentioned in
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the newsletter, which is the Intel theme. And this is the
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fourth clip, which includes it and this is a point of the this
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is a questioning the validity of what they're going to say here.
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Unknown: Israel has some of the most advanced intelligence
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agencies in the world. But somehow they were caught totally
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off guard, and so was the US Mali hunters following that
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force tonight.
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Today will go down in history as a massive state intelligence
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failure, the Palestinian Hamas militant group catching Israel
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both completely by surprise, and also deeply unprepared.
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This is extensive planning that would have to take place over
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the course of many months. And the fact that the Israelis seem
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to have been blind to it is something that is going to I
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think lead to an overhaul of the Israeli intelligence service
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leadership.
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Washington, apparently also in the dark, one senior US military
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official telling NBC News, we were not tracking this. US
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visuals telling NBC News that if Israel knew and attack was
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imminent, they didn't share it.
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You're going to have to question whether or not the sources they
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have had been doubled back against them and whether or not
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Hamas was able to identify those individuals and feed false
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information back to Israel.
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Adam Curry: But was that Brennan? Is that Brennan?
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Unknown: So I think they have to
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Adam Curry: one kid is bringing them all out. Oh, yeah. I saw
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John C Dvorak: this particular report from NBC this which came
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out on Saturday. They had everybody they brought everybody
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out of the woodwork. It was one person after another after
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another after another. And it was like everyone had to get
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their fee. Of course, at this event. Of course,
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Adam Curry: Brennan hasn't been out for over a year. So for him
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to come out on Amazon
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Unknown: and whether or not Hamas was able to identify those
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individuals and feed false information back to Israel. But
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also I think they have to wonder about why their very exquisite,
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sensitive technical collection systems. Were not able to pick
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up anything.
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breaching the border fence was unprecedented using
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Adam Curry: Brennan and Muslim, then we determine that. Yes,
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okay. Just just reiterate her
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Unknown: about why they're very exquisite and Since the
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technical collection systems were not able to pick up
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anything,
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breaching the border fence was unprecedented seen here in Hamas
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video. But bursting into southern Israel was a shock to
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Tel Aviv. And the timing is no accident. Exactly 50 years ago,
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the 1973 October invasion by Egypt and Syria also caught
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Israel completely off guard. Yeah.
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John C Dvorak: All right. So the question remains whether this
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was they knew about this in advance and they needed to use
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it for some reason, because there's been nothing but
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political disarray in Israel thing.
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Adam Curry: Hold on, hold on. I have a couple of boots on the
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ground reports. Sir Brian of London. And you know, so he and
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he's been under rocket attack for years. And he's always been
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reporting back and his his first thing is, this was so the I
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think this is the messaging that's happening there. And he's
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receiving this I'm not saying he's wrong or anything. But he
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say no, this was clearly a lapse in security. He feels that that
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Israel relies too much on electronic surveillance. And,
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and that this just, you know, this that they got, they were
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lapse, they they were lacks they, they lapse in their
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security, because they were just always got it all covered. We
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have boots on the ground from one of our trusted producers,
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who says he has a friend who was a former Mossad if that's
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possible. And here's the quote from him. Using the cover of
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heavy rocket attack that forced Israeli into shelters, a large
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number of Hamas terrorists overrun the era's checkpoint and
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broke through some border fence killing soldiers. They invaded
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several Israeli border towns attacking civilians in their
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homes, a large gathering of young Israelis at a music
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festival in the area were targeted indiscriminately sounds
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like he's promoting something to us. Families murdered inside
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their homes, many casualties injured. Multiple kidnappings,
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regional manhunt operations, ongoing large military
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mobilization, undoubtedly coordinated with Iran. And
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preparations for possible Hizballah attack in the north is
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underway. southern Israel is on curfew, homes are on lockdown
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since yesterday. So the oh and the Iranian and Russian axis aim
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to undermine the potential deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia.
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So these are all talking points. And I think this this whole
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thing behooves a number of people number one, above all,
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and it behooves everyone except for dead people. Of course, the
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military industrial complex, could not be better timing, no
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24 billion for Ukraine, no worries, Biden has already
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rumored to be setting up 100 billion in military assistance
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to Israel. So they got a four bagger out of this, from 24
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billion 200 billion.
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John C Dvorak: And there's nothing to say that there aren't
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elements I in fact, I'd be shocked. If there weren't, by
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the way, just go back my original premise you
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interrupted, which was the fact that they've had nothing but
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riots in the streets in Israel over this judiciary thing. And
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this benefit beneficial chi Bosch on that immediately.
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Adam Curry: Netanyahu needed cover. And then But, yes,
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John C Dvorak: but there's nothing that tells me that
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there's not tons of elements within the Israeli system within
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the government and the politics, that they don't want necessarily
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want this deal with Saudi Arabia
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Adam Curry: either. No, no, no, but I think it's much bigger
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than this. By the way, BBC did a much better job than then our US
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media at bringing some other voices on, which I don't want to
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skip. Which, you know, because of course, you have a lot of,
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you know, where's Roger Waters, by the way, he should be saying,
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Yeah, this is great. Yeah, that's how you Banham. These are
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all the people who were anti Israel water. Where's Ilan, Omar
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and AOC saying, Wow, that's great. They really they did a
24:05
good job. No, you're not gonna hear that right now. But the BBC
24:09
at least brings on some alternative voices, which I want
24:12
to play.
24:12
Unknown: I mean, Egypt has already warned of the dangers of
24:15
of escalation. I mean, where is this going? Israel has has said
24:21
it is at war.
24:23
Yeah, Israel has said it is at war. We have to also remember
24:27
that Israel under international law is the occupying power. It
24:31
is a military superpower by international standards. It is
24:36
accused and has been found guilty of prolific human rights
24:39
violations against Palestinian civilians. The fact that the
24:43
occupied is now attacking the occupier. It is novel it is new,
24:49
but Gaza is not occupied. It is it is according to the United
24:53
Nations it remains occupied every aspect of Palestinian life
24:57
in Gaza remains under the control All of the Israeli
25:01
military in the Israeli state,
25:03
but with this interested endorsement of the Hamas assault
25:08
by the Palestinian president, He's removing himself, isn't he
25:13
from any kind of role as mediator?
25:16
I'm not sure that he has endorsed anything. But again, I
25:18
think it's what's going to be
25:20
a Palestinian, the Palestinian people have the right to defend
25:22
themselves against the terror of settlers and occupation troops,
25:27
that the statement of legal fact they the Palestinians have the
25:31
right to defend themselves. I'm not sure that that if the
25:34
Palestinian leadership wanted to endorse the Hamas actions, that
25:38
they wouldn't have been more direct
25:40
New Order who's a Palestinian living in Ramallah?
25:43
Adam Curry: Tell she's in Ramallah. Okay, then,
25:46
John C Dvorak: well, of course, the BBC is the big apologist for
25:49
the Palestinians. That's because you only I don't have an
25:54
eclipse. But I could have gotten some nicer. What's the point?
25:57
The only outlet here that we're going to hear this, this angle
26:01
is going to be democracy. Now.
26:03
Adam Curry: I have another clip from BBC. And this is, this is
26:08
what is being touted as the reason.
26:10
Unknown: And during the current Jewish holiday of Sukkot, this
26:14
just ending. There were quite large scale events on the actual
26:21
compound of the Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, which is the third
26:26
holiest site for Muslims in the world. But it's also revered by
26:31
Jews as the site of the Jewish temple, the ancient Jewish
26:33
temple. And they were praying there. Now it doesn't sound
26:37
much, but that's something which Israelis don't permit, and which
26:40
is considered to be a highly, highly provocative act. And so,
26:47
Hamas have been saying that they're acting to protect
26:50
Jerusalem and they've used the word Jerusalem and the, what
26:53
they're calling this attack, they're calling it Jerusalem
26:55
flood. So they're connecting it very much with that, because
27:00
anything that happens that seems to alter any kind of status quo
27:03
in Jerusalem does almost inevitably lead to violence. And
27:07
I think that, I mean, I've been expecting some kind of serious
27:12
explosion for months, and I didn't think it would happen
27:14
like this.
27:16
Adam Curry: Right. So they're saying, hey, you know, the, the
27:20
Hasidic Jews overran the temple, and they were praying, it's not
27:25
allowed. So that was retaliation. Sky News, actually
27:29
did something that you would expect someone maybe democracy
27:33
now somewhere, someone would at least give an abbreviated
27:36
history of the state of Israel. And they did it in one minute
27:40
and three seconds.
27:41
Unknown: So let's talk about first of all, why Israel has
27:43
been the center of so much conflict.
27:47
Yeah, good afternoon. simer. Before we go into the classic
27:50
disclaimers here is that this enormous emotive subject, just
27:53
one word can be taken out of context. And that's often why
27:56
it's not talked about widely, but it is really important to
27:58
have some historical context for our viewers. Where do you start
28:02
with history because this goes back to Babylonian times. And
28:05
literally 1000s of years of religious conflicts never the
28:08
lines on the map today and largely formed around the Second
28:12
World War, when the victorious Allies were looking for
28:15
somewhere to put 100,000 repatriated effectually Jews and
28:19
the UN special commission was advised that the best way to do
28:23
this was to partition Palestine into two states, our states and
28:27
Jewish states. And the arrangements around juicer a
28:30
Jerusalem were international control, but un administered the
28:33
trouble is with the lens of history on it, that left a US
28:37
sponsored enclave of Israel in the middle of a continent of
28:42
Arab states.
28:44
Adam Curry: Okay, well, that's a short explanation.
28:46
John C Dvorak: The irony, the irony, is that the UN bitches
28:49
and moans about this now. Yes, it is. They're the ones who did
28:54
it. Well, actually,
28:55
Adam Curry: there's a follow up to this. And then I think I have
28:57
something that will set set up straight on what's going on
29:00
here.
29:01
Unknown: And picking up on that then Israel is a very much a
29:04
western style democracy. bang in the middle of very different
29:08
societies, cultures and the way politically, places are run had
29:12
What issues does that pose?
29:15
Yeah, well, literally the day after that the Israel was
29:20
announced it was formed in Independence state Arab States
29:22
attacked it because there's almost before the strike, trying
29:24
to make sure that it didn't it didn't survive that led to years
29:28
of conflict. 1967 was the big one. But the borders that
29:32
emerged from that 1967 were never actually acknowledged by
29:34
the international community since then, the Egypt border
29:37
down near you. Back in 82 was agreed the Jordan border was
29:41
agreed in 94. But apart from that, it still remained largely
29:46
unresolved. the Gaza Strip is a really good example. 2.3 million
29:50
people there. They were isolated. They've got lousy
29:53
economy, they've got a real problem with employment. And
29:56
that's been rife there for four, five minutes and Groups largely
30:01
got Hezbollah, obviously sponsored by Lebanon to the
30:03
north. But Hamas is the big one. They're the de facto governing
30:06
authority in Gaza. And their own their formation was to liberate
30:11
Palestine. That was their entire aim of getting involved. And of
30:16
course, the trouble is they're funded by Iran and Syria, who of
30:19
course, have their own agendas here. So this is much wider than
30:22
simply just about Israel.
30:24
Okay, and let's talk about the here. And now. Why has Hamas
30:28
chosen to carry out this attack right now?
30:30
It's a fascinating question. And what we can say is that Israel
30:35
is actually a very important major power, it's got modern
30:38
army, modern air force, modern life. And these are some of
30:42
their in southern Israel earlier on in the last 24 hours. By
30:46
contrast, how mass is basically we've got some footage of them
30:49
on the on the border of Gaza, but that Hamas is actually
30:54
almost it's just a militia. It's got much smaller arms, it's got
30:57
much smaller military capability. So Hamas can't take
30:59
on Israel at war. And therefore what they've done is they've
31:03
seen some hostages, take them away, hide in the urban
31:06
environment, and then forced to negotiate the problem is I
31:09
suspect, Israel, and it doesn't look like it's on the verge of
31:12
negotiation. And this could end up being a very long war. And
31:15
although the US has said well for support Israel fully, if
31:19
Israel goes into Gaza, if the civilian casualties start to
31:22
rise, that that support might start to waver.
31:26
Adam Curry: So the timing of all this is what I find interesting,
31:29
you know, the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur War, it's on
31:33
the, it took place on Sabbath, and a lot of Christians saying,
31:38
oh, Matthew 24, you know, this is it. Jesus says, Pray that
31:42
your fight will not take place in the winter on the Sabbath,
31:45
you know, all these all these biblical things come to pass.
31:48
This reeks of the the elite death cult, who are responsible
31:55
for well, really the West Clark seven. And so I pulled the West
31:59
Clark seven clip, which I'm, of course going to play, I have the
32:02
extended version, which we I don't think we've played in a
32:04
long time, where he goes into much more detail about the seven
32:10
countries we're going to take over in five years, which of
32:12
course did not happen, because that would have been done by
32:14
2000. So a long, long time ago. But number six and seven on
32:19
those lists are Syria and Iran. And the reasoning is the part of
32:24
the clip, which I think brings us some clarity. And then I came
32:26
back to the Pentagon about This is General Wesley Clark. And in
32:31
an interview that, that I don't know if he regrets it, but he
32:34
basically gave out top secret information right after 911 what
32:39
the plan was, and you can only presume that 911 was put in
32:44
place to kick off that plan. So when people are talking about
32:48
Israel's 911, you know, you start to think West Clark,
32:52
seven,
32:53
Unknown: and then I came back to the Pentagon about six weeks
32:55
later, I saw the same officer. I said, Why? Why am we attacked
32:58
Iraq, we still gonna attack Iraqi said, oh, sorry. He says
33:01
it's worse than that. He pulled up a piece of paper off his desk
33:04
because I just got this memo from the Secretary of Defense's
33:06
office, it says we're going to attack and destroy the
33:08
government's in seven countries in five years. We're going to
33:12
start with Iraq. And then we're going to move to Syria, Lebanon,
33:15
Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. I seven, seven countries in five
33:21
years. I said this in a classified memo. He said, Yes,
33:25
sir. I said, Well, don't show it to me. He was about to show it
33:28
to me. So because I want to talk about it. And I couldn't believe
33:31
it would really be true. But that's actually what happened.
33:35
These people took control of the policy in the United States. And
33:39
I realized then it came back to me a 1991 meeting I had with
33:44
Paul Wolfowitz. You know, in 2001, he was Deputy Secretary of
33:47
Defense, but in 1991, he was the Undersecretary of Defense for
33:51
Policy to number three position in the Pentagon. So I called and
33:54
up there he was available. And he brought me in and I said to
33:59
Paul, I sit and this is 1991. I said, Mr. Secretary, you must be
34:03
pretty happy with the performance of the troops and
34:05
Desert Storm. And he said, Well, yeah, he said, but but not
34:10
really. He said, Because the truth is we should have gotten
34:13
rid of Saddam Hussein. And we didn't. He said, but one thing
34:16
we did learn, he said, we learned that we can use our
34:20
military in the region in the Middle East, and the Soviets
34:23
won't stop us. He said, and we've got about five or 10 years
34:27
to clean up those old Soviet client regimes, Syria, Iran,
34:33
Iraq, before the next great superpower comes on to
34:38
challenges. It was a pretty stunning thing. You mean, the
34:41
purpose of the military is to start wars and change
34:44
governments. It's not to sort of deter conflict. We're going to
34:48
invade countries and I you know, my mind was spinning. This
34:53
country was taken over by a group of people with a policy
34:58
coup Wolfowitz and Cheney and Rumsfeld. And you could name a
35:06
half dozen other collaborators from the Project for a New
35:09
American Century. They wanted us to destabilize the Middle East,
35:15
turn it upside down, make it under our control.
35:21
Adam Curry: And that is exactly you know, there's no
35:23
coincidences in the kingdom, Joe Biden releasing $6 billion,
35:28
which is total bull crap. But the the politic the politicians
35:32
are out right away. You can see all of them. Well, this is Joe
35:36
Biden's failed because he he gave $6 billion to Iran. And
35:39
then they they financed this whole thing, bowl crap. These
35:43
weapons probably came from Afghanistan, which no one has
35:45
said, because it's more likely that the Taliban a billion
35:49
dollars worth of it. The Taliban brought that down. Some of its
35:52
from Ukraine. No, this this,
35:55
John C Dvorak: just as an aside, that $6 billion has yet to be
35:59
released. I know it's fully release, you have to do we
36:02
haven't signed off on a nickel of it that exam and use a nickel
36:05
of it. But
36:05
Adam Curry: that's what that was the narrative, right? And what I
36:08
just said to teen I said, you watch, here comes the narrative
36:12
is there. It doesn't matter. The whole point is to implicate
36:15
Iran, and have Israel do the business. And they're not going
36:19
to nuke of this is another Oh, this isn't world war three. No,
36:23
no, that makes zero sense. Nobody wants to rub allies with
36:28
nukes. The whole point is to rub allies and build up again. You
36:32
can't do that in nuclear waste,
36:35
John C Dvorak: not mess. You can't that's not normal.
36:38
realisation needs to take place, as we've already shown how to do
36:42
it, right? Yes,
36:43
Adam Curry: we have the technology of globalization. But
36:46
that's that's what's on deck here. That's what and this is
36:49
above Biden. That's when I saw all those Yahoo's come out
36:53
again. And thank you for, for showing us that even Brennan
36:57
comes out. Well, that's the opera right there. That's the op
37:01
and they don't give a crap about a couple 100 people dying, they
37:04
don't care at all. They don't care about Israel. They care
37:08
about destabilizing the Middle East to to drive or to have the
37:14
upper hand over Russia, particularly in Syria. And in
37:18
Iran and China there that's that's their upper hand that's
37:23
John C Dvorak: based on this thesis that means the real
37:26
target of this whole thing this is is Iran. When some reason to
37:31
do something there so Israel, which hot headed Yahoo, sent a
37:37
couple of fighters and blow up a couple of news.
37:40
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, yeah. They probably have some dudes waiting
37:45
in the wings ready to ready to emerge after they blow some blow
37:48
some molars up. Yeah. This is going to be targeted strikes.
37:53
But this is not an OP. This is NOT operation people. This is
37:57
war. It's not up. Whatever. Don't look at it as an OP. It's
38:00
a total up and it's it's it's a cult. These people are sick.
38:05
They're sick. They are and goodbye, Ukraine. Oh, boy,
38:12
goodbye. You're over. You're done. You're totally done. I'll
38:19
give you an idea. We can move away from this because there's
38:22
nothing else we can do right now. There's nothing much we can
38:25
say. But just to show you who the sick people are, and it's
38:29
politicians, it's media people. It's it's it's all the people in
38:34
Brussels is the United Nations people, you know, is of course
38:38
all run ultimately by bankers. That's just how it works.
38:43
Bankers, and I'm sure someone will say, Oh, you're anti
38:45
Semite. No, no, not all bankers are Jews.
38:49
John C Dvorak: The former New York Bankers of banks are
38:52
Jewish. So they're all Jewish. I don't think so.
38:54
Adam Curry: Yeah, exactly. Now they live on a whole different
38:57
plane. So Jens Stoltenberg, then we didn't play this. But he came
39:02
out maybe a week and a half or two weeks ago. And he made the
39:06
most bizarre statement, which which was counter to the entire
39:10
Ukraine narrative. Here it is
39:15
Unknown: first and put in
39:16
extra sent a draft treat that they wanted NATO to sign to
39:20
promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what what
39:25
he sent us. And that was that that was a pre condition for not
39:29
invade Ukraine. Of course, we didn't sign up. So he went to
39:34
war to prevent NATO, more NATO close its borders.
39:38
Adam Curry: So this youngster, Jens Stoltenberg, the boss of
39:41
NATO, admitting that Putin went to war because NATO was
39:46
expanding towards their borders, specifically in Ukraine. Yeah.
39:52
John C Dvorak: Which we've known all along, right. But now he
39:54
said it. Yeah. Which
39:56
Adam Curry: is weird. And thank you internet for creating a
39:59
supercar.
40:00
Unknown: This is fundamentally not about NATO expansion. It's
40:03
John C Dvorak: never about NATO enlargement. It's not about
40:05
NATO. It's
40:06
Unknown: not about NATO expanding toward Russia. This
40:08
was never
40:09
about NATO. Absolutely nothing
40:10
to do with NATO expansion as it has nothing to do with NATO. Not
40:15
about NATO. So really about NATO.
40:18
It's not about NATO seriously. It's not about this was never
40:22
about
40:22
NATO. It was never about NATO. Let's be honest, this doesn't
40:25
have anything to do with NATO. Nothing to do with NATO at all.
40:27
Yeah, he's
40:28
claiming it's like security purposes, but we can clearly the
40:31
clear reason come but NATO is not the reason this is
40:33
not about NATO expansion. This is about democratic expansion.
40:38
Ukraine, bans religious organizations. We are protecting
40:42
democracy right now. Crane is banning political parties.
40:45
Democracy, Ukraine restricts books and music. It's about
40:49
democracy, Ukraine vote hold
40:52
elections is about democracy, not about NATO expansion. This
40:55
war and reclaim is not about NATO is not about NATO. But it's
40:59
not about needs. It has
41:00
John C Dvorak: nothing to do with NATO, nothing to do with
41:02
NATO expansion. It's not about NATO expansion to do with NATO.
41:06
It isn't really
41:07
Unknown: about NATO. It's not about needles, not about
41:10
NATO enlargement fact, it has nothing to do with NATO. It's
41:13
not about NATO and croto is not
41:14
about NATO. NATO is just as a fictious imaginary adversary for
41:18
for for Mr. Putin and for Russia, it was never about NATO.
41:21
But it's been about it's been about him trying to expand his
41:24
sphere of influence.
41:25
I mean, the two are not mutually exclusive. Obviously, Russia has
41:28
wished for a sphere of influence over Ukraine. But if the West
41:32
had not challenged Russian interests so directly, I think
41:36
that there was
41:37
a chance to avoid this
41:39
war. He wanted us to sign that promise never to enlarge NATO.
41:44
We rejected that. The reason why
41:46
John C Dvorak: Putin invaded Ukraine is because of his evil
41:49
Adam Curry: evil. It's about that Putin wants to rebuild
41:52
Soviet empire of evil like President Reagan wouldn't been
41:56
sick, negotiate peace with a madman but nobody
41:59
Unknown: negotiated with him. People are comparing him to
42:01
Hitler Hitler I remember Hitler's use a Hitler we're back
42:05
when the Nazis invaded Poland. This is exactly the same. What
42:09
Hitler was doing to choose. This was the same Putin will not stop
42:13
by Putin is reminiscent of Hitler. Hitler's
42:15
reminds me of Hitler. Hitler.
42:19
is about a butcher trying to kill people everywhere in the
42:23
world. Just not Ukraine, Syria, all over the place.
42:27
Adam Curry: Is it becoming clear people, these people are sick.
42:32
Unknown: And you know that
42:33
Adam Curry: we've been watching them for years, they've been in
42:36
our lives in our living rooms, and they're all part of the same
42:38
cult.
42:41
John C Dvorak: You know, you could play one of those things
42:43
that can go on for hours, and it's still entertaining. The
42:47
that was a good long one. Yeah, Stoltenberg. This whole thing,
42:52
this NATO thing was the obvious point of it. And then to watch
42:56
the media, the media is pathetic in this country and worldwide,
42:59
it's taken. It's been taken over somehow, through the colleges
43:05
and universities and through the journalism schools. It's just
43:08
it's really something it's, it's frightening. That's me.
43:12
Adam Curry: That's why we need to go to the podcast to get the
43:14
truth. This is the defense and aerospace podcast. People always
43:19
talk too much on these podcasts. Ooh, too much. This is Dr.
43:23
Kathleen McKinnis of the Center for Strategic and International
43:26
Studies. Well, you
43:27
John C Dvorak: know what that is?
43:30
Adam Curry: That's part of the money making machine
43:32
Unknown: there's this huge amount of reconstruction that
43:34
has to be done, but starting to get in on the contracts and that
43:38
has to be done now. The Ukrainians aren't waiting to the
43:41
wars ending they're starting now. And if us want to have a
43:45
piece of that pie, they need to stay on the ground
43:50
Adam Curry: on a piece of that pie people get going let's go
43:54
you got to start now they're starting the rebuilding now
43:56
because you know for some reason we don't have the same cell cell
43:58
phone footage of people dying in Ukraine, you know, Russians
44:02
being killed with this with the wind from Zelinsky now we see
44:05
him speaking in front of Parliament's everywhere raising
44:08
money you know why because that money is for you. For you
44:11
consultant for you. In military industrial complex for you
44:16
energy sector for you, is for you. That's that's the people's
44:19
money. We printed it for you get in on this Get on the ground
44:23
floor,
44:23
Unknown: that pie, they need to start getting on the ground.
44:26
There's all sorts of accusations of corruption. Okay, got it. But
44:30
there's American companies out there have figured it out.
44:33
Adam Curry: I gotta hear that again. It's that beautiful it's
44:35
a great great quote. Isn't that beautiful? There's
44:38
John C Dvorak: been a accusations of of, of
44:40
corruption. Okay, got it.
44:44
Unknown: Let's just play this. There's all sorts of accusations
44:46
of corruption. Okay, got it. But there's American companies that
44:50
are out there and have figured it out and are and are raking in
44:54
the dough are going to be able to be part of the post war
44:59
Ukraine UNIAN reconstruction effort. And if we don't do that
45:02
if we don't have American companies going in there and
45:05
doing that it's going to be Chinese companies that are going
45:07
to be those contracts,
45:10
Adam Curry: the contracts, the contracts for whatever the
45:12
Chinese are going to use our money really lady. Well, where's
45:16
that money coming from Hello, Lindy Hop
45:18
Unknown: when it comes to the house. And the idea that we got
45:23
to move swiftly. Right, right. The White House Right, right,
45:25
right Republican leadership that they don't have enough funding
45:29
for Ukraine to make it through 45 days and the authorities they
45:32
have are insufficient. Well, so how much time are you talking
45:35
about needing?
45:36
You know, I've been around a while I'm worrying to pan Do you
45:38
think I would leave Ukraine, I don't believe that when bit this
45:41
same White House says we don't need to have sixteens. We don't
45:44
need high Mars, we don't need tanks, I'm lost confidence in
45:47
their valuation for what's going on in Ukraine. We've got a bunch
45:50
of allies, they can help for six weeks, the Allies have spent
45:54
more money in Ukraine than we have. And when you hear
45:56
otherwise, it's just not
45:58
Adam Curry: what's been burned. When you hear when you hear
46:01
otherwise is just not true. It's just not true. The Allies have
46:04
spent more. This is
46:07
John C Dvorak: sad work. When he's lady G. Right.
46:10
Unknown: Gotcha allies, they can help for six weeks, the Allies
46:13
have spent more money in Ukraine than we have. And when you hear
46:16
otherwise, it's just not true.
46:18
Adam Curry: No. Oh, that may be true. Because we have spent the
46:21
money here on our on our war machine. We haven't actually
46:25
spent any money. Yeah, no, there's
46:26
John C Dvorak: so just a way he Yeah. He puts it out there as
46:30
though he does it in such a way that is probably what he says is
46:33
probably true, because he's using it to defend a point and
46:38
he's got a big mouth. Yeah. For some reason, well, for us. It
46:46
is, but but he that is a huge. That's a that's an error in
46:53
judgment to say that
46:55
Unknown: valuation for what's going on in Ukraine, we've got a
46:57
bunch of allies, they can help for six weeks, the Allies have
47:01
spent more money in Ukraine than we have. And when you hear
47:04
otherwise, it's just not true. It's been good burden sharing.
47:07
But I'm not worried about the next six weeks, I'm worried
47:10
about next year, we will produce in the United States Senate,
47:14
Ukraine funding 60 or 70 billion not 24. To get them through next
47:18
year, we will have a border security measure that is strong,
47:22
and we will have additional disaster aid cost the nation
47:25
needs it. We're going to do those three things. And I'm
47:28
hoping our House colleagues will react positively to it. I think
47:32
Kevin is the right guy at the right time. The only way he
47:35
loses his job is if a handful of Republicans join up with the
47:39
Democratic Party to fire him. That would be a disaster for the
47:43
future of the Republican Party. That's not gonna happen. Yeah,
47:47
it has the
47:49
Adam Curry: lady G future teller overwhelmingly
47:52
John C Dvorak: male that
47:53
Unknown: kind of worked out for the shutdown. He will help
47:56
Ukraine but he's telling everybody in the country
47:58
including me, you better send something over for the border
48:02
for me to help Ukraine and he's right to make that demand.
48:05
Adam Curry: 60 billion All right, thanks. That's all right.
48:07
So hey, getting on the ground floor everybody. It's starting
48:10
now. The money train is coming. Whoo. Here we go. And I not sure
48:14
that today's modern CIA was in on this up in Israel, because we
48:21
had Richard angle in Turkey, Turkey a in eastern bull
48:25
reporting, but he was positioned and he was he was like reporting
48:30
on Russia striking wrong
48:31
John C Dvorak: place at the wrong time. Yes,
48:33
Unknown: this was a devastating day in Ukraine where officials
48:35
say a Russian missile killed more than 50 people Richard
48:39
angle with late details.
48:41
Adam Curry: So what's his beat now? This is beat Ukraine is his
48:45
beat the Hamas.
48:47
Unknown: A huge Russian missile effectively wiped this tiny
48:50
village off the map today, flattening what was Main Street
48:54
in Prusa. in eastern Ukraine. There's hardly a trace of the
48:58
grocery and coffee shops that were here. Residents say there
49:01
were only 330 people living in the village. In an instant, more
49:05
than 50 were killed. Relatives from the surrounding areas
49:10
rushed over as soon as they could search for loved ones.
49:13
Valeria Harrison anko looking for her mother says the
49:16
villagers were holding a memorial for a soldier when the
49:19
missile hit.
49:20
Adam Curry: We don't even have to listen to the rest of this
49:22
report. Ukraine is over. It's over. That war is over to this
49:26
John C Dvorak: thesis. Okay. Was Was the CIA cut out of the
49:31
operation in Israel where they were they? Were they were they
49:37
saying man? Hey, you know, maybe this is such a good idea because
49:40
what we want to do is blah, blah, blah. And they said, Okay,
49:42
well what you want to do is what you want to do, by the way,
49:45
we're going to have a meeting. You're not invited. I mean, what
49:49
possibly happened CIA dia. I don't think the DIA knows
49:54
anything either. They were. They're the ones like
49:58
international FBI. They seem to be all over the place
50:01
Adam Curry: as I said it's above everybody's paygrade
50:05
John C Dvorak: well it's definitely above ours because we
50:07
don't have a handle on that.
50:09
Adam Curry: I mean all I have is Richard angle was Miss
50:12
positioned in this wrong place. So so that means the
50:16
intelligence services that he talks to which is CIA, as far as
50:19
we know, was not informed or they didn't inform him I mean,
50:24
that's also possible but for this to happen under most Mossad
50:28
could detect a cat at this wall I remember these
50:32
John C Dvorak: somebody actually pointed out yeah, if there's a
50:34
cat walking alongside this this fence, the Mossad has got a
50:40
sights on it.
50:41
Adam Curry: So when the when the Para motors came in, I'm like,
50:45
no, no, no, yeah, and
50:46
John C Dvorak: the bulldozers yeah like no way was this
50:49
government in other words a good funniest site and no
50:52
Adam Curry: one and no one knew this no one was going into this
50:55
by
50:56
John C Dvorak: motorcycle after motorcycle filing into the
50:59
southern part of the Israel Yeah, it just didn't make any
51:02
sense but I mean, they talked they talked about it as a big
51:05
deal and what a screw up and then even Brandon comes out says
51:09
really need some new new leadership now what is
51:13
leadership got to do with this sort of boots on the ground kind
51:15
of thing? Or maybe there is one of those situations which you
51:19
run into and these intelligence agencies are always bitching
51:22
about not having enough people and they using too much
51:25
technology Yeah, you know there's we need more people
51:30
spies we need the old fashioned spies are in there digging
51:33
around wearing disguises you're using too much you know there's
51:37
too much of this this this What is it electronics Yeah.
51:43
Adam Curry: Yes. And well that that's the that's the message
51:46
has gone out in Israel. That's what I'm getting back because
51:48
Oh, it's too much. They did too much of that. And then they took
51:51
their eye off the ball because they relied on all the on all
51:54
the intelligence systems from the electronics. I'm sorry, I'm
51:59
not buying any of it the the pair motors and the way that was
52:03
filmed that was filmed they had someone so someone landed, and
52:10
then they filmed the other guys.
52:12
John C Dvorak: Three cameras shoot. Yes, it was it was almost
52:15
Adam Curry: like the the beheading videos, it was pretty
52:18
good. I mean, it was a little over produced. And so the
52:24
problem well, what's good about that? I think it was pulled by
52:27
the way, what's good about this is this is so polarizing,
52:30
because you get you know, the you get the Israeli, we get Jew
52:36
Arab, then you get a lot of people in the United States
52:40
saying, you know, the Zionist Jews, they own Congress, they
52:42
run everything, you know, you get this this so it, it creates
52:47
dissension everywhere, but it's totally meant to blame Biden
52:52
whatever it is, it's the blame goes squarely to Biden from the
52:57
political right. They came out right away. All of them are
53:01
saying the same thing and there's no evidence there's no
53:04
evidence that this 46 billion which was in you know, oh, it's
53:10
taxpayer money. No big
53:11
John C Dvorak: toe Come on.
53:12
Adam Curry: It's a great bit, but let's just call it what it
53:14
is bullcrap
53:16
John C Dvorak: total bull crap. It's good bit and
53:18
Adam Curry: when it would have been easier and more believable
53:21
to say, well, you know that we left at $1 billion worth of
53:25
stuff. Okay. Forget the helicopters and some other stuff
53:29
with just you know, we left we sabotaged but a lot of the arms
53:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah, all the arms the guns, the bullets and I
53:36
had I have a billion dollars with armaments left in
53:40
Afghanistan was left for a reason
53:43
Adam Curry: with Taliban. You know, these these guys are
53:45
reliable. And, you know, so on the on my military backchannels
53:52
I'm getting here. What is it here? Multiple sources Middle
53:57
East, Lebanese and Palestinian telegram channels report
54:00
significant number of RPGs and other hand arms used by Hamas in
54:04
the operation against Israel came from Ukraine, or as they're
54:07
saying, from the key of regime of Jews Alinsky. So and that
54:13
could all be disinformation. I'm sure it is. Yeah. But that's a
54:18
lot more likely, but it sounds better. For you know, for the
54:22
show boaters in Washington going Oh, yeah. Biden. Biden did that.
54:27
But he doesn't care about Jews. I mean, it can go on and on.
54:31
hates Jews. And he hates dogs. That
54:34
John C Dvorak: Jews Asians. Yeah, he got rid of his dog, are
54:36
they? Well, that was
54:38
Adam Curry: that was gonna be the up. They have video of him
54:41
kicking the dog. He's fantastic. He's coming out of the
54:46
helicopter with the dog. And it looked more like he was kind of
54:49
wrangling
54:50
John C Dvorak: was this dog too. He's got a bunch of different
54:52
servers. This is the one that's bitten. 12 people I have clipped
54:55
President
54:55
Unknown: Biden's dog commander was spotted at the White House
54:59
on Saturday. But after biting someone last Monday night he no
55:03
longer lives here. CBS CBS News has learned there have been more
55:07
than 11 Biting incidents involving the two year old
55:10
German Shepherd and Secret Service officers. At least two
55:14
had to be taken to the hospital for treatment. Following an
55:18
incident last November when Secret Service Officer emailed a
55:21
colleague, my leg and arm still hurts. He beat me twice and ran
55:26
at me twice. A fellow Secret Service Officer replied What a
55:30
joke if it wasn't their dog, he would already have been put
55:33
down. Sources tell CBS commander all sources White House
55:38
residential staff and other workers sources
55:41
Adam Curry: when it sources that means Biden's in real trouble
55:44
sources are telling CBS certain thing because of all people
55:48
Unknown: all I get from the President's brother is the
55:50
second to be removed from the White House. No, that's an
55:54
Adam Curry: interesting detail. It's from his brother, let's
55:56
bring his brother in. His brother his brother's trouble
55:59
Unknown: dog, a gift from the President's brother is the
56:02
second to be removed from the White House. Major bit two
56:06
people in one month back in 2021. So he's a
56:09
sweet dog. 85% of the people there love him. He just only has
56:14
Adam Curry: 85% of the people He doesn't bite wag his tail.
56:19
Unknown: Dog Trainer Robert bra says canine behavior depends on
56:23
several factors like genetics, socialization and training. When
56:28
you're
56:28
Adam Curry: dealing with the President's dog, nobody's going
56:29
to want to correct the President's dog. And sadly, when
56:32
you're in a position of power, people are going to tell you
56:34
what you want to hear and not tell you the truth. The truth is
56:37
this dog needs structure. Yeah, didn't need structure. Yeah, you
56:41
can train any dog. But yeah, so you know, but him kicking the
56:46
dog was on Zero Hedge. So they're trying to roll that
56:49
because you know, I think you you get the meme out there that
56:53
the President kicks his dog. He'll be impeached faster than
56:57
you can say.
56:58
John C Dvorak: That's bad that bad look.
57:01
Adam Curry: So it still could be in play but right now it's like
57:04
he is responsible for possibly starting World War Three. That's
57:09
that's what's this is what's happening. These these sick,
57:13
sick people. They just love doing this stuff. They love
57:17
special dates. Man, let's do it on the anniversary of the
57:21
numerology. Yeah, let's do let's do I'm sure 10 Seven is special.
57:26
I'm sure there's some reason 33
57:28
Is that a 33?
57:30
John C Dvorak: I don't know. There must be.
57:32
Adam Curry: There's got to be a love that 33 in there. So we'll
57:35
find it. We'll find it. Yeah. So yeah, this is a very, very sad
57:45
what's going on, but it is just a completion of something
57:48
they've been doing for a long time. And they don't want any,
57:51
any deal between Saudi Arabia and Israel. Nobody wants that.
57:57
They want it all. They want to run it all. And yeah, Iran has
58:00
got their oil cranked up again. That'd be cool. We can go get
58:04
some of that. Yeah, if I were a Mullah, I'd be worried.
58:11
John C Dvorak: What's screwy just as an aside is that this
58:16
began and the price of oil didn't move straight and it's
58:19
already already moved down 82 As far as I know, it hasn't moved
58:25
anywhere since and it's like if that's right and you somebody
58:28
might have their eye on that Iranian oil
58:31
Adam Curry: oh wait they want the price down before it can go
58:36
up? Is this a buying moment? Maybe
58:38
John C Dvorak: you don't Well no, there's take it over I'm not
58:41
talking about buying Iranian oil
58:43
Adam Curry: No no no I buying moment for the price of oil like
58:46
a stock play like a market for the price
58:50
John C Dvorak: of oil. Really? To me. This is still too high.
58:52
It should be in the 60s. But
58:54
Adam Curry: is it good oil? Is that some split? What kind of
58:56
what kind of crude do they have? They have the good sweet stuff.
58:58
What do they what do they have stuff we go with that?
59:00
John C Dvorak: Well, there's there's two prices that float
59:03
around one is super good, high quality stuff is Brent. And that
59:09
is we as opposed to West Texas. WT
59:12
Adam Curry: right. What is What does Iran have? Do they have the
59:15
good stuff?
59:16
John C Dvorak: I don't know. It's a good question. I have no
59:17
idea. I should know. Yeah, but I don't will disappoint. Look it
59:22
up.
59:23
Adam Curry: So here in Texas. Of course. We had the text some of
59:28
the ladies on the text like Hamas is coming across the
59:31
border. No, no, no.
59:35
John C Dvorak: But Texas. Yes.
59:38
Adam Curry: People get spun up like crazy. And this was wall to
59:41
wall. I mean, I was monitoring all the channels. And it was
59:45
just like Kerr flip like boom all you had and BBC didn't BBC
59:50
usually at night. They switched to like Africa news. You know,
59:56
that these long form things of me know something by Africa a
1:00:00
guy you get credibly boring very boring or rice farmers somewhere
1:00:05
gets boring now they were there wall to wall and you know when
1:00:09
you have a WOLF BLITZER on the SAT working on a Saturday is
1:00:12
real that that then something's going on and then you have
1:00:16
Brennan coming up, come on. So but in Texas, the guys the guys
1:00:21
are like, hey, now I'm real sorry what happened there but
1:00:25
170 miles from here I got stuff that's coming across the border
1:00:28
that I don't want in my state. So this is our transition.
1:00:33
Unknown: Tonight, President Biden who rallied against Donald
1:00:35
Trump's border wall, clearing the way for more wall to be
1:00:39
built, facing a surge of migrants and a humanitarian
1:00:42
crisis, sending 10s of 1000s across the US border, his own
1:00:47
homeland security director saying today, there is presently
1:00:50
an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers and
1:00:54
roads in the vicinity of the border in order to prevent
1:00:57
unlawful entries into the United States. President Biden
1:01:01
defending the decision to use millions of dollars of Trump era
1:01:04
funds to build more wall along the US Mexico border, saying he
1:01:08
had no choice.
1:01:09
You pledged not to build another border wall what changed?
1:01:15
The President himself today admitting he does not believe a
1:01:18
wall is effective.
1:01:19
I tried to get them to reappropriate three track that
1:01:22
money. They didn't they wouldn't. In the meantime,
1:01:25
there's nothing under the law other than they have to use the
1:01:28
money for what it is. Do you believe the border wall works?
1:01:33
No. Are Selena
1:01:34
Wang pressing the White House.
1:01:36
But why now for instance, these funds have been available since
1:01:39
Biden took office why we have to comply by law to get this done.
1:01:44
And that's what you're seeing happening right now.
1:01:46
But the reality this administration faces is stark
1:01:49
10s of 1000s crossing the border more than 2.2 million since last
1:01:54
October. And the political pressure is mounting with
1:01:57
Congress unable to find a solution. The president today
1:02:00
criticized by Democrats for breaking his campaign promise
1:02:04
there will not be another foot of wall destructive in my
1:02:08
administration. Now there will be up to 20 miles of new wall
1:02:11
here in south Texas, some sections over 18 feet high using
1:02:16
funds that were appropriated in 2019. During the Trump
1:02:20
administration, specifically for the wall, Trump building just 52
1:02:25
miles of new border wall while replacing already existing 450
1:02:30
miles of that wall
1:02:31
in 2016. You remember this? I ran on the border wall that was
1:02:36
a big deal.
1:02:37
With the surge of migrants showing no signs of slowing down
1:02:40
overwhelming cities coast to coast. The administration today
1:02:44
announcing they will resume direct deportations of
1:02:47
Venezuelan migrants just weeks after expanding protected status
1:02:51
for 1000s. And plans to send up to $10 million to Panama to help
1:02:56
them deport migrants back to their home countries.
1:03:00
Adam Curry: And so we have another act in the little play
1:03:02
of the border. Oh, yes. So the alternative media that we that
1:03:10
like to tout themselves as so good. They're so full of crap.
1:03:15
John C Dvorak: That I want to mention something about Biden's
1:03:18
bullcrap excuse, so I had to do it because of the law, they have
1:03:21
to now break something like 24 to 26 laws to build those walls,
1:03:25
because there's all these environmental laws that were put
1:03:27
in place that have to be violated or, you know, ignored
1:03:31
or looked the other way. So that's nonsense. He didn't have
1:03:35
to build an anything if you didn't want to these for some
1:03:39
reason. They're building the I think they've lost control of
1:03:42
the well, they lost control the br I know they wanted an open
1:03:44
border, they got their open border now it's like a little
1:03:46
bit more than they can deal with. I disagree.
1:03:49
Adam Curry: What's happened here is they heard our deconstruction
1:03:54
of what's really going on with the NGOs like crap. Karina
1:03:57
Racker. onto it. We have to we have to distract everybody. We
1:04:01
have to come on everybody. Let's put on a little show. What can
1:04:05
we do? How can we focus everybody away from the NGOs
1:04:09
bring in to see as a candidate,
1:04:12
Unknown: President Biden say, there will not be another foot
1:04:15
of wall constructed that except for what was appropriated in
1:04:20
2019. He said, There will not be another foot wall constructed in
1:04:24
my administration. So something changed. What
1:04:27
do you want us to break the law? Is that what you want? You want
1:04:30
us to not comply with the law? I'm not. With the law, you want
1:04:36
us to not be in administrations that follow
1:04:39
all the time, the student loans, the student loan forgiveness
1:04:43
program, you went to court to fight for that, if this is such
1:04:46
a problem building 20 miles of wall, why not just go to court,
1:04:50
we went to Congress, the Congress appropriates the
1:04:52
funding, why Congress, Congress appropriates the funding. We
1:04:56
asked them to not use that funding for that particular The
1:05:00
purpose, they denied it. And now we're complying with the law
1:05:04
if you have to build a border wall, but you don't think that
1:05:07
it's going to work, then once it's done, are you just going to
1:05:09
tear it down?
1:05:10
I'm not getting into hypotheticals. I'm just telling
1:05:13
you what I can tell you from here. The facts are that DHS is
1:05:17
complying with the law. This is from fiscal year this was under
1:05:20
fiscal year 2019. Under Republican leadership, and DHS
1:05:24
is required to do this. The President asked multiple times
1:05:27
of Congress to reappropriate they did not and we're not
1:05:30
complying by the law. Thanks, everybody. I'm
1:05:32
Adam Curry: telling you, this is a little show to give
1:05:34
John C Dvorak: us a total show. It's gotten. It's gotten to the
1:05:37
point where it's ludicrous
1:05:38
Adam Curry: and this little show is for the alternative media. So
1:05:41
Dan bond, Gino and Tim Poole I can't say that with certainty
1:05:49
would probably Megyn Kelly, maybe went to Greek Glenn Beck,
1:05:54
you know, Ben Shapiro, and he probably is. I mean, here's the
1:06:00
this are alternative media that everyone touted as, oh, this is
1:06:04
great. It's independent. They're stupid. They aren't they get
1:06:09
distracted by shiny little things that is clickbait that
1:06:12
will get them more advertising money.
1:06:15
John C Dvorak: It's clickbait. It's advertising. It's not
1:06:18
stupidity.
1:06:19
Unknown: That's such a good point, Dan, and we talk about
1:06:21
this idea of psychogeography is right, the idea that anyone
1:06:24
alive today is entangled in this complex web of semiotics based
1:06:28
on their geopolitical bioethical socio economic ethno linguistic
1:06:32
positionality.
1:06:32
Adam Curry: This is this is the kind of fanatic This is the kind
1:06:36
of alternative media that people are all clickbaity about
1:06:39
Unknown: it. And so it becomes necessary
1:06:41
John C Dvorak: as it goes on your college essay, the
1:06:44
beginning of a junior college essay by somebody trying to show
1:06:46
off to their teacher.
1:06:48
Adam Curry: It's kind of my point. It's an example of what
1:06:50
people are actually listening to,
1:06:52
Unknown: and encode our own meta ontologies because at the end of
1:06:56
the day, meta on geology, even perceptual paradigms, rather
1:07:02
paradigm, tension between a space a heuristic bubble, if you
1:07:06
will, this is
1:07:07
John C Dvorak: a real estate bubble. Where did you get this?
1:07:09
This is a fake. Of course, this is somebody who put together a
1:07:13
bunch of gobbledygook Yes.
1:07:14
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes. Yes, yes. A fake the whole it's it's a
1:07:19
persiflage. It's to show people what they're listening to
1:07:23
Unknown: resonant hermeneutics can unfold in a post modern
1:07:26
Okay, now
1:07:27
John C Dvorak: I get it, I get it. I should have picked it up
1:07:29
sooner. I picked up the complaining sooner but now that
1:07:32
I'm hearing all
1:07:33
Adam Curry: of it. So let's talk about what's really happening I
1:07:36
get
1:07:36
John C Dvorak: it right that kind of stuff. Now of course you
1:07:38
can.
1:07:40
Adam Curry: Salvation Army is. Let's see here is a boots on the
1:07:45
ground from one of our producers while I was at the Roosevelt
1:07:47
Hotel migrant process. Now this is not from us. But this is a
1:07:50
boots on the ground, not from one of our people. Roosevelt
1:07:53
Hotel in New York migrant processing center spoke to my
1:07:56
migrants who just arrived in New York City by plane and they had
1:07:59
a piece of paper from the Salvation Army. Because the
1:08:03
Salvation Army's putting people on the planes at the end that's
1:08:06
a nice little Salvation Army and it says Dear TSA employee, the
1:08:11
individual standing in front of you have recently been
1:08:13
discharged from a US immigration detention facility they don't
1:08:16
speak English please give them passes. Then I've paperwork
1:08:19
please let them on Salvation Army doing the most good. So the
1:08:24
Salvation Army is putting people on a plane. Go ahead, but please
1:08:29
do your podcast about the while. Peter Doocy so good man, he
1:08:32
really put that Korean jam cameras point her career is
1:08:35
over. I mean, I saw it you sound
1:08:37
John C Dvorak: like been in business. She's been there too
1:08:40
long already.
1:08:41
Adam Curry: And how are they getting here? Oh, they're on the
1:08:44
beach train. It's really horrible. Oh my goodness. They
1:08:48
have they traveled for weeks the coyotes the rape tree, a grim
1:08:52
Unknown: scene in southern Mexico as rescue teams and
1:08:55
forensic staff recover the bodies of migrants killed after
1:08:59
their bus tipped over along the curve on the road.
1:09:02
Adam Curry: Now this bus, luxury touring bus from Oaxaca tours
1:09:09
Mexico America and it's like one of those you know like a like a
1:09:13
band
1:09:13
John C Dvorak: bring luxury. really fancy but vans or buses.
1:09:17
It wasn't two story but a film but you're up on a second kind
1:09:20
of a second
1:09:21
Adam Curry: row. Yeah, and all everything is in the in the
1:09:24
whole everything that you know the later of course you have to
1:09:26
empty your suitcase putting the plastic bag to cross the Rio
1:09:29
Grande for the little show.
1:09:30
Unknown: It happened along the highway in the central state of
1:09:33
Puebla.
1:09:35
We are members of the medical service. We were notified at
1:09:38
around 440 In the morning about the accident. 10 minutes later
1:09:41
the first ambulance arrived. There were many injured over 25.
1:09:44
State police say a total of 55 migrants were on board, most of
1:09:48
them from Venezuela and others from Haiti. Among those killed
1:09:52
two women and three children
1:09:54
Adam Curry: does I like how they positioned it two to three to
1:09:57
two women, three children and we're 50 on board Are there 25
1:10:01
that were killed, so it's pretty much all young workers
1:10:04
Unknown: were injured and are being treated at nearby
1:10:06
hospitals. The crash is the latest in a series of migrant
1:10:09
deaths in Mexico. Last week, 10 Cuban migrants died and 17 more
1:10:14
were injured when their freight truck crashed in the neighboring
1:10:16
state of Chiapas. No Videoder with Guatemala, the dangers of
1:10:20
the journey are not slowing the growing number of migrants
1:10:23
traveling
1:10:23
Adam Curry: then they just go on and of course, you know, they're
1:10:25
going to show the beasts train. This is Southern Mexico. So
1:10:29
they're coming into southern Mexico. They're not walking
1:10:31
across Mexico, they're going by the Luxury Bus paid for by your
1:10:36
NGOs. People were looking stuff let's get
1:10:41
John C Dvorak: back to the rich paid for it. Who's really behind
1:10:43
this the State Department your tax,
1:10:46
Adam Curry: tax money, people were looking up? Like the what
1:10:49
was it was on no agenda social. The N for it wasn't like one of
1:10:55
those big ones. And it was a half a billion dollars last
1:10:59
year. State Department USA ID money half
1:11:02
$1,000,000,000.04 190 $7 million. That's just one of
1:11:07
these outfits. And Oh, thank goodness. There's good news.
1:11:12
Because Amy Pope, former State Department official under
1:11:15
Hillary Clinton, by the way, she is now really irking me she
1:11:19
talks out of the side of her mouth. She actually I think she
1:11:23
has the same doctor that does fillers that Hillary has. And
1:11:28
they had who
1:11:29
John C Dvorak: else talks to this a mil you think is Yeah,
1:11:31
London breed the mayor of San Francisco talks out of the side
1:11:35
of her mouth.
1:11:36
Adam Curry: right side or left side? That wish I believe breed
1:11:40
talks out of the right side. This is right side right side
1:11:43
mouth, you know, the lip goes up a little bit.
1:11:45
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Are you gonna talk like this? Yeah.
1:11:47
Adam Curry: Yeah. And eventually has kind of that puffy, puffy
1:11:50
Hillary type face. You know, clearly the same. She She
1:11:55
probably went to her hairdresser and said, I want the same thing
1:11:57
paradise for Hillary. She got kind of the second rate one.
1:12:01
It's not exactly good. So she is the
1:12:04
John C Dvorak: Hillary we've only seen Hillary with the hair
1:12:06
done right once.
1:12:08
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yeah. And it was really pretty dynamite. Then
1:12:11
it was dynamite. So Amy Pope, former Clinton nista, former
1:12:16
State Department official, now director, General Director
1:12:21
General of the International Office of migration, a UN
1:12:26
organization with tons of money, they had a big shindig, they had
1:12:31
this I'm still clipping from it. I can't decide if I want to do
1:12:36
it a package or not, but they had a full three day
1:12:41
John C Dvorak: but three day shindig a three
1:12:43
Adam Curry: day shindig on a second exactly what it was
1:12:47
called
1:12:47
John C Dvorak: the money coming out of your ears.
1:12:50
Adam Curry: Oh, it was called the international dialogue on
1:12:58
migration. Think about tomorrow acts today the future of human
1:13:05
mobility. And then was great because they had they had all
1:13:09
kinds of stuff going on. And they and the part that's
1:13:13
interesting is because they put up a the full live video when
1:13:17
they're testing and setting everything up and you know,
1:13:20
getting the PowerPoint slides. And then the moderator this
1:13:23
young woman she comes on and and she says I'm doing now here what
1:13:27
we call filling time because we're waiting for everybody to
1:13:30
come back from coffee. And you know if you're a consultant you
1:13:34
really want to get in here now because this and she literally
1:13:36
is saying this stuff like you consultants that you know your
1:13:40
money, your money train is about to leave all aboard woo woo. So
1:13:45
they haven't quite cut it all up yet. And I'm waiting to see what
1:13:47
they put on their YouTube channel. But Amy Pope, Director
1:13:50
General of IOM, the Honorable Amy Pope, she did do a little
1:13:55
quick hit a quick hit for the Instagram and Twitter. We just
1:13:59
finished
1:13:59
Unknown: an incredible day and a half for the international
1:14:02
dialogue for migration. We had singing, we had dancing, we had
1:14:05
artwork, and we had extraordinarily thoughtful
1:14:08
conversation.
1:14:11
Adam Curry: We had singing and I have some examples of that. Oh
1:14:14
my god
1:14:15
John C Dvorak: singing and dance. Social guy
1:14:19
Adam Curry: singing and dancing and artwork. And there were
1:14:23
black people doing creative stuff. That's all that's missing
1:14:25
from what she's saying Here you horrible racist piece of crap
1:14:28
and
1:14:29
Unknown: dancing. We had artwork and we had extraordinarily
1:14:32
thoughtful conversation about the impact of climate change on
1:14:35
human mobility. Now as we move toward cop 28, it is critical
1:14:40
that we put all of these ideas into action, action that enables
1:14:44
people who are impacted by climate change, to find better
1:14:48
solutions, whether they're already on the move, whether
1:14:51
they are looking for options to stay at home, or whether they
1:14:55
need new opportunities because climate change will cause their
1:14:59
own and options to disappear. The time for action is now an
1:15:04
IOM can't wait to be part of it
1:15:06
Adam Curry: can't wait to be part of it. So this is the plan.
1:15:11
Everything's climate, hey, we can't not let these people in
1:15:16
this climate change their climate migrants, and they need
1:15:20
climate justice. And we do that with climate finance. He yesI
1:15:27
that's how it works. Climate and this,
1:15:34
John C Dvorak: and this is, again, too many balls in the air
1:15:36
these people,
1:15:36
Adam Curry: I think, but the climate thing, I think they can
1:15:39
they can leverage that, you know, and this is, this is a
1:15:42
good way to do it, because there's billions it's billions
1:15:45
flowing from it. You know, we're not, we're not we're anything,
1:15:48
we're heating up our own countries by bringing in more
1:15:50
bodies. I mean, just think of that logic,
1:15:54
John C Dvorak: or somebody should put that together as a
1:15:56
formula.
1:15:57
Adam Curry: So Chicago is now people in Chicago are flipping
1:16:01
out. They are bringing in 25 buses a day. 20
1:16:07
John C Dvorak: Because the Chicago blacks that are really
1:16:10
Yes,
1:16:11
Adam Curry: they are. Here's nothing new still
1:16:13
John C Dvorak: vote Democrat. I don't know. baffling. ASBO facts
1:16:17
why that is?
1:16:19
Adam Curry: Well, it's because they got promised they got
1:16:21
promised goodness. But you know, if you look on Tik Tok, even the
1:16:26
Chicago blocks like, I don't know, man, that's trumpet
1:16:28
looking good. Now, he gangsta. So Chicago local television is
1:16:33
where it's at now. And here's so here's a reporter saying, Well,
1:16:39
you know, let's just explain this whole concept of sanctuary
1:16:42
city and how we got into this mess.
1:16:43
Unknown: Broadly speaking, it can be defined as cities,
1:16:46
counties, or states with laws dictating how much local
1:16:50
jurisdictions can cooperate with federal immigration officials.
1:16:54
So there are 11 states that have made themselves a sanctuary
1:16:58
states and hundreds of cities and counties that have their own
1:17:02
range of policies. For example, Chicago, they have a so called
1:17:07
welcoming city ordinance, and that means that they do not ask
1:17:12
about immigration status or use that to deny city services.
1:17:16
Officials also are not allowed to provide Immigrations and
1:17:19
Customs Enforcement support. And then there is Clayton County.
1:17:24
That's in Georgia, it has a much narrower, narrower definition.
1:17:28
Officers do not honor ice requests to detain migrants for
1:17:32
deportation. So many sanctuary city laws revolve around ice
1:17:36
detainment requests. Here's how it works. Essentially, when
1:17:41
you're arrested and you're booked for a crime, law
1:17:42
enforcement takes your fingerprints. And then those
1:17:45
fingerprints are automatically sent to federal databases,
1:17:48
including one ice maintains for unauthorized immigrants. Now ice
1:17:53
can send a detainer request to ask local police to hold a
1:17:58
person until the agency arrives. At sanctuary cities However,
1:18:03
they do not enforce those requests. There you go.
1:18:10
Adam Curry: sanctuary cities, it sounded good. Yes, of course we
1:18:15
hate Trump. Of course we like we'd like foreigners. We're our
1:18:20
country's built on migration.
1:18:23
John C Dvorak: That's my favorite. Yes.
1:18:25
Adam Curry: We are an immigration country. Yeah, yeah.
1:18:28
Legal. But I think, Oh, by the way, Chicago, the solution now
1:18:34
that Pritzker, the governor who has a new sister, the the
1:18:40
governor is his solution is we need to approve these people to
1:18:47
work really quick. I mean, it's, it's so it's so perfect. The
1:18:51
same thing they did in in New York. Yeah. It's like, oh, we
1:18:55
bring them in, oh, we need temporary protected status for
1:18:58
these people quickly. Because otherwise, they're just gonna be
1:19:01
sitting around not being useful, using up resources. So let's
1:19:06
give them jobs, which will give it nonprofits, which in turn are
1:19:11
funded, which in turn are funded by the city, the state and state
1:19:15
department. It's great. It's a very, very good system. How
1:19:18
about Guatemala? I think the next TPS, temporary protected
1:19:23
status should come for the Guatemalans and I think
1:19:26
John C Dvorak: why Guatemala, that was the reason for
1:19:28
Venezuela. There's no reason for Guatemala. Here it is.
1:19:31
Unknown: Guatemala is in the middle of a huge political
1:19:34
crisis.
1:19:35
Yeah. Okay. So here's what's happening. A presidential
1:19:37
election was held in August. The results were already certified.
1:19:41
But the Attorney General and other officials have made it
1:19:43
clear that they want to challenge those results. And
1:19:46
that's led protesters to take to the streets all over the
1:19:49
country.
1:19:50
Guatemala is now entering a fifth day of a national strike.
1:19:54
And Paris ADA Peralta is the in the middle of it all in
1:19:56
Guatemala City and he joins us now hi, either. Hey, Leila. So
1:20:00
We'll start with how we got here and what's at stake.
1:20:03
So look, as you mentioned this start. This starts in earlier
1:20:07
this summer when that not really ever low wins the presidential
1:20:09
election. And this was a huge surprise because that ever law
1:20:13
came from a small reformist party and he was the anti
1:20:16
corruption candidate. No one thought he could win an almost
1:20:20
as soon as he does when the ruling elite here who have been
1:20:24
terrified of actually being held responsible for their
1:20:27
corruption. Well, they have done their best to undo this when the
1:20:32
Electoral Commission actually certified the results but the
1:20:34
Attorney General has said she is investigating the president
1:20:38
elects party and on Saturday, her office raided the Electoral
1:20:41
Commission, the investigators ripped into bags of elections
1:20:45
material, and then by force, they left with a bunch of
1:20:48
electoral materials. And they haven't said why. One
1:20:51
constitutional expert I spoke to says that what the my left is
1:20:54
clearly in my law, constitutional territory. We're
1:20:58
important branches of government are fighting with each other for
1:21:01
supremacy. And that fight may very well determined if better
1:21:05
not about Mr. Lowe, who was elected in a landslide will
1:21:08
actually take power in January.
1:21:10
Adam Curry: I'm just saying I've been who gives a crap about
1:21:13
Guatemala. Well, it's time to bro
1:21:14
John C Dvorak: I think. I don't have any clips from it. But I
1:21:17
Ecuador's even more in chaos. Oh, the perfect bring them in.
1:21:21
They took the guy who was running the opposition guy, they
1:21:24
put him in jail and shot him. I think it's a little better. So
1:21:28
this is a deal more straightforward. A
1:21:31
Adam Curry: record map of Guatemala we have a lot of ties
1:21:34
with Guatemala.
1:21:35
John C Dvorak: The total goes back television back to the
1:21:39
Adam Curry: I was just looking at this. I was on the website of
1:21:41
the IO IOM annual report 2022. They have the exact they have a
1:21:49
an infographic
1:21:51
John C Dvorak: very pretty infographic
1:21:55
Adam Curry: infographic that they read. 31 million people
1:21:58
were reached in 2022. Across 170 countries with $2 billion. These
1:22:04
included IDPs internally displaced persons, refugees and
1:22:08
migrants. And look they've done stuff like the cccm. I don't
1:22:12
know what that means. But more than 4 million people reach
1:22:14
through camp coordination and camp management operations and
1:22:18
37 countries.
1:22:21
John C Dvorak: Fails camp management.
1:22:23
Adam Curry: Well, that sounds like an coordination. I think
1:22:26
this is how they coordinate before they put them on the bus.
1:22:29
Hey, I'm gonna look at this. I'm gonna dive into this report.
1:22:31
Because then they're proud of what they're doing. That's the
1:22:34
thing. They're not bashful
1:22:36
John C Dvorak: or should they be?
1:22:39
Adam Curry: Well done.
1:22:40
John C Dvorak: Nobody cares.
1:22:41
Adam Curry: Well, that you know, once they hear the Karelian
1:22:43
devoir Consulting Group, oh, yeah,
1:22:44
John C Dvorak: that's gonna do it. They're gonna put a stop to
1:22:47
a lot of stuff.
1:22:51
Adam Curry: Oh, wow. But this, this, this woman this. This Amy
1:22:57
Poehler,
1:22:57
John C Dvorak: let's talk about what's going on at least get
1:22:59
this out of the way. I've got some clips from the PBS Brooks
1:23:03
and they had this Ruth woman who's the editor of one of the
1:23:07
editors of the Washington Post, and they had him up there.
1:23:09
Again, this is the end of the on the Friday show. They bring in
1:23:12
these two commentators, David Brooks from the New York Times
1:23:16
and someone from the Washington Post, and they both trash
1:23:19
Republicans and trashed there's no balance. There's no, no
1:23:23
insight. There's not somebody saying well wonder why he said,
1:23:26
Why did Trump say that? No, no, he didn't did there's nothing
1:23:29
like that. They won one time they had a guy from the some
1:23:34
South Asian from the National Review who actually tried to
1:23:40
explain things to people. But why why bother? Let's listen to
1:23:44
books on how Speaker
1:23:46
Unknown: I say the word unprecedent hits so much. I feel
1:23:49
it's losing some of its power. But this week was unprecedented
1:23:52
to see the ousting of the sitting House Speaker Kevin
1:23:56
McCarthy David let's just start with that and how you're
1:23:59
reflecting on what unfolded this week. Yeah,
1:24:01
well, there was a precedent which was Caligula in the
1:24:03
Clinton for the Roman person. Obviously joking, but But
1:24:10
Adam Curry: when was he Are you sure was joking? Obviously
1:24:12
joking. Obviously. What a douche.
1:24:16
Unknown: Totally unfold the room. Obviously joking, but, but
1:24:22
in some sense, Donald Trump introduced a note of of
1:24:25
narcissistic hucksterism, into the American body politic. And
1:24:29
it's been interesting to watch it spread throughout his party.
1:24:32
So I would say Vivek Ramaswamy falls into that camp and
1:24:35
certainly Matt Gates and his crew. This was not about any
1:24:38
substantive thing. This was just pure chauvinism. showbusiness,
1:24:41
pure nihilism drove Ben, so you have a group of people for whom
1:24:44
this is all nihilistic fun, but then you see how it spreads. And
1:24:48
so in the middle of all the fight over the speaker, there
1:24:51
was a meeting with the moderate problem solvers club caucus, and
1:24:53
they were trying to get the Democrats to save McCarthy. And
1:24:56
in the past, there had been talk that had been reported the Nancy
1:24:59
Pelosi had told John Boehner when he was speaker, she would
1:25:01
she wouldn't destroy the institution, she would stand
1:25:03
behind him. But there's so much distrust even among the
1:25:06
moderates, they couldn't come close to a deal that would have
1:25:09
saved McCarthy and would have prevented the meltdown we've
1:25:12
seen. So the rod is here, but it's just spread throughout the
1:25:15
institution. It's just fascinating, morbidly, to
1:25:18
Washington institution be torn apart by show business, distrust
1:25:22
and hucksterism.
1:25:23
Adam Curry: Wow, he's not wrong on the show business part. I
1:25:26
mean,
1:25:26
John C Dvorak: well, the show Yes. Well, we've already made
1:25:28
that claim. But the idea of nihilism fun, which is
1:25:33
ludicrous, is a it's a non sequitur of some sort. But it's
1:25:39
nihilism is a rejection of everything in life is
1:25:42
meaningless. You're just a depressive. There's you don't
1:25:44
have fun. There's no such thing as nihilistic fun. It's
1:25:48
oxymoron. So that's kind of weird that he said that. But the
1:25:51
other thing is that nobody wants to point this out. It was 100%
1:25:56
of the Democrats that voted McCarthy out. Yeah, he was only
1:25:59
a couple Republicans eight to be exact. That said, No, we
1:26:03
wouldn't don't want McCarthy but the Democrats are the ones that
1:26:06
are they denial lists. It's all Democrats. It's all the
1:26:10
Democrats. It wasn't one Democrat. This is all we keep
1:26:13
the guy. No, it was. But no, no, no, it's always somehow this is
1:26:16
all of the Republicans fault. So okay, whatever. Let's go to the
1:26:20
second part of this. And this is the I think it's got a little
1:26:25
insight on why I think Scalise might win. This is Brooks again,
1:26:29
Brooks yakking away and Ukraine funding.
1:26:33
Unknown: David, this is not just about politics and the party.
1:26:36
There were real world impacts. As Ruth mentioned, the bills are
1:26:39
not passing through the house at this moment. What does this mean
1:26:42
for Ukraine funding? Right? So
1:26:43
Steve Scalise support to Ukraine funding and speedcraft farmers
1:26:47
for future speaker but Jordan does not. And so to me, that's
1:26:50
the big issue here. If if Scalise doesn't get it, it's
1:26:53
hard to see how Ukraine funding goes through the big anomaly.
1:26:57
It's a remarkable thing to say, by the way, compared to where we
1:26:59
were a year ago. And compared to some of the atrocities that
1:27:01
happened this week and Ukraine
1:27:05
John C Dvorak: compared to where we were a year ago, and compared
1:27:10
to the atrocities,
1:27:11
Adam Curry: let's listen again, if
1:27:13
John C Dvorak: we what is what sense, does that mean I want
1:27:16
Unknown: to hear it again, doesn't get it. It's hard to see
1:27:17
how Ukraine funding goes through the big anomaly. The remarkable
1:27:21
thing to say, by the way, compared to where we were a year
1:27:23
ago compared to some of the atrocities that happened this
1:27:25
week in Ukraine.
1:27:29
John C Dvorak: But does that mean? Well, a year ago, you're
1:27:32
all in supporting Ukraine, but compared to atrocities,
1:27:36
Adam Curry: some atrocities took place this week.
1:27:40
John C Dvorak: But what is support got to do with anything?
1:27:43
I mean, he's saying, comparing the support of what it where we
1:27:47
are today and where we were. And atrocities I mean, it's just as
1:27:52
an atrocity. It's got nothing to do with it.
1:27:53
Adam Curry: How you are really pissed off at this Brooks guy.
1:27:56
Oh, this
1:27:57
John C Dvorak: guy is so bad. He's just yammering about stuff.
1:27:59
And he's nervous. I can't understand why.
1:28:03
Adam Curry: I have to play our disclaimer. elitist voices of
1:28:07
America. This is NPR or PBS.
1:28:13
John C Dvorak: Alright, now what really is bad about the PBS
1:28:17
thing? And I want to play this again, Ruth, the other one. This
1:28:22
is the Brooks Ruth, on Trump PBS clip. And it's, again, it's the
1:28:30
lack of any sort of balance. It's just like, Trump's in a all
1:28:35
Yeah, you're right. Trump's in a hole. This is not what you're
1:28:39
supposed to do with these two people. They're supposed to be
1:28:42
balanced one of them. The fact they should be argumentative at
1:28:45
some level, but they don't even get that far. They're just
1:28:48
arguing about how much in agreement they are. Listen to
1:28:51
this, I need
1:28:52
Unknown: to ask you about as well about something else we've
1:28:54
been reporting on. You may have seen Laura Barron Lopez report
1:28:56
earlier this week that she has been tracking some of the
1:28:58
ramping up of violent rhetoric by former President Trump,
1:29:02
actually, in her report, just recent remarks that she has been
1:29:06
reporting on earlier last month, Mr. Trump suggested that General
1:29:10
Mark Milley should be executed. He then went on to mock the
1:29:14
assault on Paul Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi, his husband he called
1:29:17
for shoplifters to be shot on site late last month
1:29:20
Adam Curry: house. Okay, How stupid are these people? He's
1:29:23
doing exactly what he did the first time around. He's getting
1:29:26
in your head and you're talking about him just
1:29:28
Unknown: a few days ago, he said that migrants are, quote,
1:29:30
poisoning the blood of our country which is echoing the
1:29:34
language of white supremacists and of Adolf Hitler. Yeah, and
1:29:38
invoke those words. It's remarkable to me that I have
1:29:42
been repeating some of these words right now. But are we at
1:29:45
risk of becoming numb to some of this language?
1:29:48
I think we've been at risk of that for the last seven years
1:29:51
and I think all of us around this table have struggled with
1:29:55
the conflict between giving this man and his odious comments
1:30:02
oxygen, which is what he wants, which is what fuels him, and
1:30:06
failing to expose them failing to if you are an opinion
1:30:11
columnist like we are failing to denounce them, and therefore
1:30:16
allowing them to just percolate. i This is
1:30:19
Adam Curry: so meta. This is fantastic. It's like, we're
1:30:24
doing exactly what he wants us to do. And we're not doing what
1:30:27
we shouldn't be doing. And we're on PBS doing it. This is, this
1:30:32
is great. This is the true demise of of mainstream, odious
1:30:36
Unknown: comments, oxygen, which is what he wants, which is what
1:30:40
fuels him and failing to expose them failing to if you have an
1:30:46
opinion columnists like we are failing to denounce them, and
1:30:51
therefore allowing them to just percolate. I think we see this
1:30:55
now, with his persistence in the polls, and he is clearly ramped
1:31:02
up the rhetoric. I can't remember whether you mentioned
1:31:04
the Mark Milley held the poison the blood is the part that
1:31:10
really sickens me. And we see right now, the justice system
1:31:15
trying to grapple with how to keep him under control, as it
1:31:19
tries to hold him to account. I think we need to be really
1:31:23
careful not to ignore him. But we need to be really careful not
1:31:27
to feed what he wants, either by overreacting or under reacting.
1:31:33
And I don't have the solution to that.
1:31:35
Adam Curry: Geez, this is great
1:31:39
John C Dvorak: pearl clutching. Now
1:31:42
Adam Curry: Yeah, of
1:31:44
John C Dvorak: course the other person should now the other
1:31:46
counter argument would be someone trying to explain what's
1:31:49
going on or even do what you just did, which was say this is
1:31:53
a matter that you're dealing with and this is what he needs
1:31:56
to stop. You know, you can you you can pay attention or not pay
1:32:01
attention. Some of it you have to look at as humorous. Mark
1:32:06
Milley should be executed. shoplifters should be shot. This
1:32:11
is funny. So but nobody no, we don't have that. Instead we get
1:32:16
this. Here's Brooks with his counter.
1:32:19
Unknown: David, how do you view it? Yeah, well,
1:32:20
there's the platform for a second term. I mean, he's he's
1:32:23
talking the way authoritarians talk like the real hardcore
1:32:25
authoritarians talk. And so he's got to ramp up the rhetoric
1:32:28
continually to keep the crowd pleased. And then he's got a he
1:32:32
I think he's growing increasingly as he's threatened
1:32:34
increasingly, I don't know if the range is too strong a word,
1:32:37
but also the word. Okay, I'll stick with the range. You know,
1:32:43
I'm, I don't know how to stop. Well, people like Dustin.
1:32:48
And there's one other element in there which is
1:32:51
Adam Curry: he's like, how is this our job? People like us
1:32:55
have to stop this. We're powerless. But people like us
1:32:57
know the elites. We have to stop this. This is no good.
1:33:00
Unknown: And so you know, the I'm I don't know how to start.
1:33:06
How people like Dustin
1:33:08
Adam Curry: what is people like us? What do you think that
1:33:10
people like us? Is that
1:33:12
John C Dvorak: all you said it the elites the ones who know
1:33:15
better? People like us people like us the the we're supposed
1:33:20
to stop it? I don't know why and she had been Bruce has already
1:33:22
given up she's I don't know what to do about it. I mean, people
1:33:25
like us. People like gosh, I can't stop it. What are we gonna
1:33:29
do? Oh my god.
1:33:33
Unknown: I don't know how to how people like us and
1:33:36
one other element in there, which is he's he's doing his
1:33:40
punching. He's deranged. She loves to do it. He is. But he is
1:33:45
also trying to force these judges into overreacting and
1:33:48
making a mistake.
1:33:49
We expect to see more of that. I think in the months ahead. RUTH
1:33:52
MARCUS, David Brooks, thank you so much. Always good to see you.
1:33:54
Oh, it's
1:33:55
Adam Curry: good to see you. Great job, everybody. All right,
1:33:57
everybody. Hey, let's go to the bar. We had a great show was
1:34:00
good. Great show a great show. Well, this is par for the course
1:34:05
because Hillary Clinton is out swooping around. Oh, I should
1:34:08
have gotten little sweepsouth Where's my your soup? Yeah, I
1:34:11
haven't. I haven't cackle. She's out. She's out and about with
1:34:18
her friends. She's out with Christiane Amanpour. That's
1:34:22
right. Oh, is here everybody.
1:34:27
Unknown: When you see a another matchup between potentially
1:34:31
Trump and President Biden, what goes through your mind and
1:34:34
particularly, how do you process this person who's defeated you
1:34:39
back in 2016. Given all the you've said 91 indictments, you
1:34:45
know, civil fraud, sexual transgressions according to the
1:34:48
courts.
1:34:51
Adam Curry: Sexual transgressions according to the
1:34:53
court, according to the code into the court, according to the
1:34:56
court, I love it. It's something about the British That's
1:35:00
Christiane uses that just makes me feel so warm and fuzzy.
1:35:04
Unknown: How's this still happening? Ha, ha, was
1:35:08
Adam Curry: it still happening? We've got to join brookstown at
1:35:10
the pub.
1:35:11
Unknown: It's a classic tale of an authoritarian, populist. Who
1:35:18
really has a good did
1:35:20
Adam Curry: Hitler have humor like this? Did Mussolini have
1:35:23
humor? This is something we should look up. Because it's so
1:35:29
classic. Did Mussolini say the stuff that Trump says? Do you
1:35:32
have bits?
1:35:34
John C Dvorak: I bet you he did.
1:35:35
Adam Curry: I'm curious to find out how is this still happening?
1:35:39
Unknown: It's a classic tale of an authoritarian populist, who
1:35:47
really has a grip on the emotional psychological needs
1:35:53
and desires of a portion of the population.
1:35:58
Adam Curry: Okay, now, this is good. Here. Let's go back into
1:36:01
the deplorables. He has a psychological grip on a portion
1:36:06
of the population. At this point. She's not even saying
1:36:08
Republicans or anything she is saying a portion of the
1:36:11
population. If you feel that she's talking about you, she's
1:36:15
probably talking about you.
1:36:17
Unknown: And the base of the Republican Party, for whatever
1:36:21
combination of reasons and it is emotional and psychological.
1:36:25
sees in him someone who speaks for them. And they are
1:36:31
determined that they will continue to vote for him attend
1:36:34
his rallies, where his merchandise merch because for
1:36:39
whatever reason, he and his very negative
1:36:45
Adam Curry: look for whatever reason, so she hasn't even
1:36:47
really thought about the reason why but for whatever reason, his
1:36:51
Unknown: merchandise, because for whatever reason, good catch,
1:36:55
he and his very negative, nasty form of politics resonates with
1:37:03
them. Maybe they don't like migrants. Maybe they don't like
1:37:07
gay people, or black people, or the woman who got the promotion
1:37:10
at work they didn't get.
1:37:12
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. Well, let's make sure let's make sure
1:37:14
we get this right. If you don't like migrants, if you don't like
1:37:18
black people, if you don't like that, what if you don't like
1:37:21
that woman who got the promotion over you at work? Well vote for
1:37:24
Unknown: Trump is
1:37:26
John C Dvorak: nasty. We'll fix it. We'll fix it right? Oh,
1:37:29
isn't
1:37:29
Unknown: eighths with them. Maybe they don't like migrants.
1:37:32
Maybe they don't like gay people or black people or the woman who
1:37:35
got the promotion at work. They didn't get WIC whatever the
1:37:39
reason, you know, make America great, again, was a bid for
1:37:43
nostalgia to return to a place where where women did what we
1:37:48
told him, you know, people could be in charge of their lives feel
1:37:53
empowered. Yes. See what they want and screw that.
1:37:57
Adam Curry: But listen to his where you could be in charge of
1:37:59
your life? Yes. Say we want Yes. Yeah, we don't want
1:38:03
John C Dvorak: that. No, hold on,
1:38:05
Unknown: be in charge of their lives feel empowered, say what
1:38:09
they want and sold who ever came in their way? And that was
1:38:13
really attractive to a significant horse, you know?
1:38:18
Adam Curry: Yes. Yes.
1:38:19
John C Dvorak: This? I've heard this clip. I was. I didn't clip
1:38:22
it.
1:38:23
Adam Curry: There's a part. There's a part two, obviously.
1:38:25
John C Dvorak: Yeah. I didn't hear that part. That is a
1:38:29
disgusting thing. She said,
1:38:30
Adam Curry: I know that. And that's what I love about our
1:38:33
producers. Because everyone got the part I'm about to play now.
1:38:38
And oh, listen to what she's saying. But this part is really
1:38:40
the disgusting part.
1:38:42
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the disgusting part is you you what
1:38:44
you wanted to be able to control your own life and say what you
1:38:48
want.
1:38:50
Adam Curry: Oh, that's no good. You can't be doing no
1:38:52
John C Dvorak: good. No good because he wanted to make people
1:38:56
make their own decisions for themselves.
1:38:58
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, that's not how we do things around
1:39:01
here. And she and of course
1:39:02
John C Dvorak: I'm poor is an idiot. She just sits there. Just
1:39:06
laps it up
1:39:08
Adam Curry: on port because they have a wide shot to shot. She's
1:39:11
not even looking at Hillary. She's looking. She's she's
1:39:14
looking at the wall. I think she's stoned. She's looking at
1:39:16
the wall. She's looking. She's not looking at Hillary while
1:39:19
she's talking. You know, if someone's talking to
1:39:21
interviewing, you'd be kind of intently looking at her. You
1:39:24
want
1:39:24
John C Dvorak: to kind of pay attention to what they're
1:39:25
saying. So you might come up with a question. She's
1:39:27
fidgeting.
1:39:29
Adam Curry: He's fidgeting and it's weird. Very weird. Anyway,
1:39:33
here's the money shot. There
1:39:35
Unknown: wasn't this little tale of extremism waving, you know,
1:39:39
wagging the dog of the Republican Party, as it is
1:39:43
today. And sadly, so many of those extremists those mega
1:39:47
extremists. Oh,
1:39:51
Adam Curry: the extremists. That's the one that according to
1:39:53
Newsweek, the FBI is tracking the mega extremists.
1:39:58
Unknown: Take their marching orders from Donald Trump. Who
1:40:01
has no credibility left by any measure? She's only in it for
1:40:06
himself. He's now defending himself in civil actions and
1:40:09
criminal actions. And when do they break with him? You know,
1:40:13
because at some point, you know, maybe there needs to be a formal
1:40:18
deprogramming of the cult members but something
1:40:23
Adam Curry: she finally said it, but you're just being yourself
1:40:26
Hillary. You need to be deprogrammed lady
1:40:31
John C Dvorak: you know that earlier clip that part where she
1:40:34
said that people will what are people think they want to? They
1:40:37
want to control their own lives and speak freely? That's crazy.
1:40:41
You got his on believable? Yeah. And of course, you're right.
1:40:46
Nobody picked up on that. No, but they all picked up on the
1:40:49
deprogramming thing because it kind of fits into some sort of,
1:40:52
I don't know, ranking 84 thing.
1:40:54
Adam Curry: So yeah. So here's an example of someone who was
1:40:59
truly programmed, who truly is part of a cult, a cult that and
1:41:05
you know, in the Netherlands now the what's the what's that
1:41:08
climate Climate Change Group?
1:41:12
John C Dvorak: What's the climate or die? Death?
1:41:16
Adam Curry: The Delta? No, no, no, the climate is something x.
1:41:19
What is it gone? It's the I can't remember the name. Well,
1:41:24
so they're out every convention distinction. Yes. Extinction.
1:41:28
Something. Yeah. So they're out every day on the 812 which is
1:41:34
the entryway extinction. Rebellion. Thank you. Nation
1:41:37
rebellion. Yeah. Which is a pretty important highway goes
1:41:41
through Thrift, which is in the middle of the country of
1:41:43
freeway. Yeah. And they're out there. And they stop traffic.
1:41:48
And they're doing it every single day. And now they are
1:41:51
suing the government saying you should not be allowed to spray
1:41:55
water cannons spray us with water cannons, because we're
1:41:57
getting bruises. And poor baby. Yeah, that's an actual debate.
1:42:02
It's crazy. So sky, Sky News. HUBZone Zoey Cohen, now she's
1:42:09
from just stop oil. Which, you know, I'll just go back to my
1:42:14
Well, I don't know whatever happened to peak oil, but that
1:42:16
was going to stop all by itself. But I guess it just keeps on
1:42:19
flowing. Zoe. It's unbelievable. She is and she I would call her
1:42:23
a climate tard she is so upset, even at the people on the news.
1:42:28
And these specific these news people. What are you doing?
1:42:32
Unknown: How worse does it have to get how many kids often die?
1:42:40
I don't know what else to say. Why aren't you on the streets?
1:42:43
We're less that's all I can say. How do you explain your
1:42:47
inaction? To explain it? Everyone here are the presenters
1:42:51
that we talked to how do you explain your inaction? How much
1:42:54
longer you're going to keep this journalistic objectivity up
1:42:58
until the waters laughing at your ankles until you Oh, no.
1:43:02
Adam Curry: The water is going to be laughing at your ankles
1:43:05
Unknown: unfit just a foil what's next? Will you continue
1:43:09
to destroy these events?
1:43:12
John C Dvorak: This is taking place in a country that is
1:43:15
underwater. No. This is the below sea level the entire
1:43:20
country.
1:43:22
Adam Curry: This is this is not the Netherlands. It's the UK.
1:43:24
Okay, sorry. This is the UK I'm sorry. That didn't mean to
1:43:27
confuse you. Now this is Sky confused as the Sky News. They
1:43:30
John C Dvorak: don't speak. Sky News is some girls crying on
1:43:32
camera.
1:43:33
Adam Curry: Some girls is a grown woman, a grown
1:43:37
John C Dvorak: woman crying on camera because the news people
1:43:40
aren't protesting with her. Okay, that makes sense.
1:43:43
Unknown: And what's next? Will you continue to disrupt events
1:43:48
or what's what's the what's?
1:43:51
What's the plan because it's morally wrong to not take the
1:43:54
action that we know from history has got some chance of having an
1:43:57
effect. People feel powerless. We are the opposite. When we
1:44:00
come together, we have enormous power. There are so many more of
1:44:03
us than there are of them.
1:44:05
Adam Curry: So and it doesn't matter. It's morally wrong not
1:44:08
to disrupt things and you know, these people are going to start
1:44:10
killing people. It's always these people who wind up killing
1:44:13
politicians. It starts with a pie in the face. Yeah. And then
1:44:16
it winds up the shooting people these people are deranged.
1:44:19
They're very dangerous. Yeah, they are. And they are egged on
1:44:22
you're right,
1:44:23
John C Dvorak: that's there, there was really an uptick in
1:44:24
arms because they their life's at stake the way they see it
1:44:27
because
1:44:28
Adam Curry: the water is lapping at their ankles. So now we go to
1:44:31
Canada Navia Canada, where as you know, of course, September
1:44:34
was the hottest month ever. hottest month ever, in all of
1:44:39
existence of Canada. And and let's just
1:44:43
John C Dvorak: start planting.
1:44:44
Adam Curry: I bring in this. I bring in this clip because it
1:44:47
includes a quote from an actual climate scientist, but they're
1:44:54
talking to the environment. The Environment Canada's climate is
1:44:58
climatologist so this I think this guy is actually a
1:45:00
government guy. But as a fun quote in here and just you know,
1:45:05
all other climate stuff, it's your daily no agenda dose of
1:45:10
climate nonsense, so
1:45:11
Unknown: let's cut straight to it. Why is it so much hotter
1:45:15
this year? Not just here in Canada but globally.
1:45:19
Well, you know, certainly the the news is not surprising and
1:45:23
shocking at all. We have warmest summer. Globally as ticket
1:45:27
thermometer in the planet. We had the warmest June ever.
1:45:32
Adam Curry: You can do it yourself, people. You can stick
1:45:34
a thermometer in the planet and see what's going on. But make
1:45:37
sure you stick it in its butt. Otherwise you might get a
1:45:39
misreading so stick it a stick a thermometer in the planet. Well,
1:45:42
you know, what are you drinking?
1:45:44
John C Dvorak: Just plain old polar unflavored natural
1:45:48
seltzer.
1:45:50
Adam Curry: Okay, all right. And we're back to sticking a fork in
1:45:53
the fork sticking a monitor in the planet.
1:45:56
Unknown: Well, you know certainly the the news is not
1:45:59
surprising and shocking at all. We had the warmest summer
1:46:03
globally a stick a thermometer in the planet we had the warmest
1:46:06
June ever. July was the warmest month of any month in in
1:46:11
history. And then August has followed that and then finally
1:46:15
now and then September so this recreates a course of pattern. I
1:46:19
think the there's a lot of sort of residual heat in the in the
1:46:23
lakes and the land and the oceans. The oceans are hot tubs
1:46:27
out there. And
1:46:28
Adam Curry: oceans are hot tubs. Now this is a Jacuzzi hot tub or
1:46:34
is it that just have LED lights? Is it cool? Or it means you can
1:46:37
just jump in the ocean and just sit back and chill it's a hot
1:46:41
tub
1:46:41
Unknown: the oceans The oceans are hot tubs out there Marcia
1:46:44
and and they retain that heat longer. And so they find they
1:46:48
give it up and it just warms the air and and so he see the
1:46:51
temperature rise because the jacuzzi
1:46:53
Adam Curry: planet because of it.
1:46:55
John C Dvorak: This Yeah, if you're gonna stick a thermometer
1:46:58
in the planet Yeah, to get an accurate temperature wouldn't
1:47:02
you stick it into into the planet's butthole or Toronto as
1:47:07
it were, I already made sorry, why toronto, toronto the
1:47:14
Canadian
1:47:15
Unknown: little Gianna divorce.org And they just warms
1:47:18
the air and and so we see the temperature rise because of it.
1:47:22
Hey, this this scorching torrential or heat is is has
1:47:27
scorching torrential
1:47:28
Adam Curry: heat. This is this is new language now isn't
1:47:32
torrential usually used for rain? But he's not scorching. It
1:47:36
John C Dvorak: refers to a torch. Yeah, have something's
1:47:39
scorching torrential heat. So we see the
1:47:41
Unknown: temperature ratios because of it. Hey, this
1:47:44
scorching heat is is happening globally in Canada. And it's
1:47:49
unrelenting. Here we go to stop that.
1:47:52
And one. Climate scientists at Berkeley you may have read this.
1:47:56
We've said that this is absolutely gobsmackingly
1:47:59
bananas. And that's coming from a scientist.
1:48:02
Adam Curry: Oh no. A scientists use the word Godsmack Well,
1:48:07
well, we're British. We're gonna die now things in Berkeley
1:48:11
gobsmackingly bananas. Oh, no. gloves are off.
1:48:16
Unknown: Climate scientists. Yes.
1:48:18
John C Dvorak: Let it play because if I may may have a
1:48:21
question about this.
1:48:23
Unknown: Berkeley you may have read this Dave said that this is
1:48:26
absolutely Gob smackingly bananas, and that's coming from
1:48:30
a scientist. So my question to you then and you've already sort
1:48:34
of touched on this when people start wondering are we in for a
1:48:37
mild or winter? Is there anything to cool things down?
1:48:41
Well, I mean, as I say, you could have something hit the
1:48:45
planet I suppose. But But no, it's all this residual heat is
1:48:48
not going to give it away. So we clearly are not canceling winter
1:48:52
in Canada. We've never done that. But clearly it looks like
1:48:56
without particularly El Nino we know from history tells us when
1:48:59
you have a an El Nino just an ordinary running El Nino it
1:49:05
tends to be warmer in Canada.
1:49:06
Adam Curry: So he's contradicting himself. What's El
1:49:09
Nino? Well, yes, it's El Nino. So it's not climate change is El
1:49:13
Nino. But it's gobsmackingly bananas. But
1:49:18
John C Dvorak: this is the question I have. Okay. When the
1:49:20
scientist says this is gobsmacking the man? Yes. Is he
1:49:26
referring to the climate hysteria? Is that what is he
1:49:34
referring to this guy being nuts?
1:49:36
Adam Curry: I hope so. I hope so. Well, maybe he's referring
1:49:42
to my final story. Maybe he's referring to this. As I said,
1:49:46
we've seen this before. The climate people the earth people,
1:49:52
the animal people to be quite honest. They pin for town was
1:49:58
assassinated two weeks Before he's going to win this one
1:50:02
posthumously was, was going to be the the Prime Minister of the
1:50:05
Netherlands. animal activist shot him in the head coming out
1:50:09
of radio studio. It's always these people who lose the plot.
1:50:14
They go crazy. And so now they know. I mean, they go over the
1:50:20
edge at a certain point like this lady, she's breaking down
1:50:22
in the studio. That lady needs help. She needs help right away
1:50:26
because that's the kind of person who is going to do
1:50:28
something very drastic. state of fear people go read the book. So
1:50:36
no surprise to me that we get stories like this from people
1:50:40
who've gone green crazy.
1:50:43
Unknown: Next tonight, a disturbing discovery at a
1:50:45
funeral home in Fremont County, Colorado. Police say 115 bodies
1:50:50
were found improperly stored at the facility that returned to
1:50:53
nature Funeral Home performs so called green burials without
1:50:57
using embalming chemicals or metal caskets. Authorities say
1:51:01
the bodies will have to be identified through DNA. So far,
1:51:05
no charges have been filed against the funeral home to
1:51:08
Adam Curry: they're just mulching these people. Oh, it's
1:51:10
green. Don't worry. You can't just throw bodies in the and say
1:51:15
we're we're a green funeral company.
1:51:18
John C Dvorak: It's a good business model.
1:51:21
Adam Curry: It's cheap. Hey, I got a great idea. And we can do
1:51:26
funeral home with it. But we can still charge people for the
1:51:29
cast.
1:51:30
John C Dvorak: We just need a big X we need a soft part of the
1:51:33
berth and Texas is filled with this by the way, big excavator
1:51:38
and dig down a couple of stores and just toss them in wood
1:51:41
chipper,
1:51:42
Adam Curry: the easy
1:51:44
John C Dvorak: ship them in
1:51:46
Adam Curry: curry Dvorak wood chipper burials everybody come
1:51:49
on by we can do nice color do we put food coloring in the
1:51:52
chipper? Do a rainbow LGBT chip. Well that would cost extra we
1:51:58
can actually do a gender reveal
1:52:03
John C Dvorak: using the chip
1:52:07
Adam Curry: we have two businesses. So and this is a
1:52:11
very climate friendly business we have we do green burials. We
1:52:16
do it in a wood chipper which spreads it out over of course
1:52:19
regenerative farming that's right and but we don't have any
1:52:24
cows it's just for the land for the for frogs we have here and
1:52:28
we can use that simultaneously we we will color it either pink
1:52:32
or blue for your gender reveal party and it's a nice arc I
1:52:39
think we're in business so small
1:52:41
John C Dvorak: a setup a small stand low grandstand nearby Yes,
1:52:47
so people can watch
1:52:49
Adam Curry: and will stream it we can stream it we have
1:52:51
John C Dvorak: a minister there that can do last rites just in
1:52:55
front of the chipper
1:52:56
Adam Curry: you can do you can have a wall and have the have
1:52:58
the gender reveal on one side and you'd have the cheaper the
1:53:02
cheaper burial on the other just coordination
1:53:06
John C Dvorak: you do to it to say yeah, you could do two at
1:53:08
once to be interesting mixed party.
1:53:12
Adam Curry: Well with that I'd like to thank you for your
1:53:13
courage to in the morning to you the man who put the sea and
1:53:15
clutch your pearls and hold your crotch ladies and gentlemen say
1:53:18
hello to my friend on the other end the One Only Mr. John Cena
1:53:26
John C Dvorak: Australian recruiting the millennial ship
1:53:27
see boots on the ground feet near subs in the water and all
1:53:30
the names and nights out there and in
1:53:32
Adam Curry: the morning. Oh trolls How you doing?
1:53:40
Again, were a buck 54 into a two to six 320 263 Trolls so I think
1:53:45
we're doing okay, we're on par for a Sunday.
1:53:47
John C Dvorak: No, we're too under low here. But
1:53:49
Adam Curry: we're all we're more than halfway through the show.
1:53:53
John C Dvorak: I believe 200 People would quit Oh
1:53:55
Adam Curry: yeah. Oh, are you kidding me? Well, I kicked one
1:53:59
off myself so at least at least one of them was gone.
1:54:04
John C Dvorak: Then he's always kicking people off on the sly
1:54:06
not
1:54:06
Adam Curry: really the only this one guy. He was kicked out Iron
1:54:11
Hide or something. He's a guy that you know he's the guy like
1:54:14
you don't know anything about gay that guy? Yeah, you can't
1:54:21
talk about trans issues because you're not gay. I'm gay. I know
1:54:24
everything you know one of those you remember the guy he's the
1:54:29
guy yeah, guys
1:54:30
John C Dvorak: gotta go if he'd be banned permanently get his IP
1:54:33
address.
1:54:34
Adam Curry: But it's someone took care of it. And I don't
1:54:36
know. Now he'll be back he'll be valued and we welcome him back
1:54:39
if you can just behave just a little
1:54:41
John C Dvorak: guys like that can never behave has. That's too
1:54:44
bad. Hillary knows that.
1:54:48
Adam Curry: Anyway, if you can behave a little bit it doesn't
1:54:51
actually have to be much I mean, the bar is very low on the troll
1:54:54
room, but you're welcome to join. Go to troll room.io Right
1:54:59
there you can listen to the no agenda stream is 24/7. So you
1:55:02
don't even have to log in if you don't want. But you can if you
1:55:04
want to be in the troll room, it's kind of fun. Because
1:55:07
there's always something going on and no agenda stream. There's
1:55:10
always something always lots of live shows. But we got a live
1:55:13
show coming up after today's show. I don't know. I mean, this
1:55:16
is it's almost a 24 hour a day live radio station. And if you
1:55:20
don't like what you hear you just you just go in there and
1:55:22
bitch and moan at the house. You suck. That's what the troll room
1:55:26
was for. I mean, imagine a place where you can do that. I mean,
1:55:29
it's not Hillary won't let you do that. Because imagine you
1:55:31
just want to say what you want to say that would be no good.
1:55:35
That'd be no good. No can't have that. Now, you can also use a
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modern podcast app to be alerted. We get the bad signal
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when when we start this thing up, podcast guru pod verse, you
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can listen live on a lot of the apps including fountain all
1:55:50
these great new apps, which just cannot be the platform no matter
1:55:53
what Canada thinks they're going to do. You cannot get kicked off
1:55:56
with these apps. You just no way. We've solidified that and
1:55:59
one day I shall receive a Nobel Peace Prize for this for this
1:56:01
incredible work, which I did none of it's a halt software
1:56:05
developers I didn't do any of it you can of course follow us at
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no agenda social.com which I don't use some of the signal to
1:56:17
noise quality has gone down a bit on no agenda social people
1:56:21
seem to be now there was another dude like posting some guy with
1:56:26
this called progressive night slot or something very creative
1:56:30
like that. And all he does is post screenshots from Twitter
1:56:36
now and it's like who orders everyone to ban meat like Dude,
1:56:43
please this is a fault and in this screenshot even had a
1:56:46
little fact checked icon next to it said sent sent me the link to
1:56:51
the story. First of all, don't just post screenshots. It's
1:56:55
useless. You're just doing it for your ego it's useless to a
1:57:00
post the link and it's just stupid story. Like, like some
1:57:05
guy who was reading Bill Gates his book and Bill Gates in that
1:57:09
book says this and therefore who might say this it was had
1:57:13
nothing to do with the headline. And it wasted eight minutes of
1:57:18
value your time valuable research time. This place is no
1:57:22
agenda socialist supposed to be for producers. If you just want
1:57:26
to jack off go to threads, blue sky do stuff over there.
1:57:32
John C Dvorak: Mastodon dot social Yeah, there you go.
1:57:34
That's where you can't see
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Adam Curry: any of our stuff because we're blocked
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everywhere. Follow Adam at no agenda social.com Or John seed
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of where I can no agenda social.com. This podcast, as you
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probably noticed, has no advertisements. We run
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everything on value for value, we are the OG of the value for
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value. There's all kinds of people who are claiming
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ownership of value for value, which is great. We love that
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every one of us on the idea that we love that every that the
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ideas caught on because it is a model that works. I mean, it's
1:58:04
it's not it's not it's scary. You know, you have to you have
1:58:08
to work at it. You can't just like you got to work. Because if
1:58:13
you don't work out if you're not consistent, if you're not
1:58:15
reminding people if you're not telling them what you have, and
1:58:18
if you don't ask for people to support you. They won't. People
1:58:22
are freeloaders. So that's why I don't
1:58:24
John C Dvorak: like the idea. Though people are lazy to be
1:58:28
guilt tripped into it. Yeah. So yeah, up to a few people that
1:58:32
really enjoy supporting the show. Yeah, and there's a few
1:58:36
Adam Curry: it's about 3% of the 960,000 I think that listen to
1:58:44
the show on a monthly but what do you what noises are you
1:58:46
making? And making
1:58:47
John C Dvorak: that man I don't know if it's 3% that enjoy
1:58:51
supporting the show? I think maybe less than one. I mean 3%
1:58:54
support this show, but they don't enjoy it.
1:58:58
Adam Curry: They don't enjoy supporting us. This is
1:59:01
begrudging what they do
1:59:02
John C Dvorak: or is it Yeah, there you go. That's the word
1:59:04
you're looking for
1:59:05
Adam Curry: grudgingly support the show. Well, we do appreciate
1:59:08
that. The good news is you can support us with time talent or
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treasurer and and really is the time and talent portion that
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you're doing this for your fellow no agenda, nation people.
1:59:20
I mean, you are you are producing the show everybody,
1:59:22
all three of the T's are producing the show that
1:59:25
otherwise you know, we'd have to go and work and do do something
1:59:28
for a living. So we can you know, thanks to the support we
1:59:32
get we can we can get by living the American dream. But when it
1:59:36
comes to time and talent, we have artists who really have
1:59:40
been stepping up to the plate after I complained about the
1:59:44
excessive use of artificial intelligence. Oh, man, that Sam
1:59:49
Sam guy from open AI, what's his name? Sam Altman, Sam Altman
1:59:56
yelman He's on Rogan, I started listening. Yes. Today, oh my
2:00:01
god, the first well the first five minutes like AI is was
2:00:05
going to we're going to have a need for UBI because of AI AI is
2:00:09
always going to take away some jobs so
2:00:11
John C Dvorak: is an AI freak? lol
2:00:13
Adam Curry: Yeah, but he's he says because of AI we're gonna
2:00:16
have to have UBI universal basic income he kept saying that well
2:00:19
we'll need some kind of UBI but really I want everyone to have
2:00:23
one 8 billion of the UBI proceeds of the AI proceeds for
2:00:27
their UBI it's like, what are you waffling about man?
2:00:33
John C Dvorak: Just do your job and shut up about the politics
2:00:35
really?
2:00:36
Adam Curry: Alright, so anyway, I don't And he's, I never
2:00:40
expected creativity to be first the first success for AI. Wow.
2:00:45
So successful. Come back when you can't do when you mean your
2:00:48
AI can do five fingers instead of good luck. Show the fix. Fix
2:00:55
that form or elongated. Fix that and then tell me how creative it
2:00:59
is. I can hear comments through blogger pooping in his pants
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right now. He's always pooping his pants. So no agenda, our
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generator.com is where the artists upload, you can actually
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refresh it in real time during the show live if you want, you
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can go back after the fact you can participate by uploading to
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it or again those modern podcasts that podcast apps.com
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They use Dred Scott does our album art puts a lot of the
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entrance in there that you normally wouldn't see. And I
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think now it works on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. So
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while you're driving around, you'll see the artwork change.
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That's something that most podcasts don't do. They're
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boring, the same art with us, like things are changing as the
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topics change. And so you probably saw Francisco
2:01:45
Scaramanga as artwork show up for episode 15 9603 titled
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flagger that's the European Union new brown shirt word
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flagger. I'm a content flagger and get you arrested for being
2:01:58
illegal to not being kind for hurting someone's feelings. And
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it was a good piece. It was a nice little chef with his
2:02:10
coffee. And he was had a kind of he's kind of like a like a
2:02:14
worried look on his face and he has a sign that says now
2:02:17
swapping staff for migrants and it went perfectly well with the
2:02:22
with our talk about about the migration replacement.
2:02:27
John C Dvorak: I like to cross eyes. See that
2:02:29
Adam Curry: touch he does and obviously, there were some I
2:02:32
kind of what we think we both like Nico's Symes in the
2:02:34
morning. The cubist thing at least I liked it. You like that
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John C Dvorak: one? And kind of go back here.
2:02:42
Adam Curry: Let me look like a lot of pink. And I liked it. I
2:02:45
thought it was good. Yeah, it was the yellow background. I
2:02:51
remember I liked it. So it's like, second row right
2:02:56
underneath it right underneath the great staff swap. Right
2:03:01
underneath it. Are you do you even have a browser open?
2:03:03
John C Dvorak: And I'm gonna get the browser up.
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Adam Curry: Are you even on the show?
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John C Dvorak: Right. Oh, that thing in the morning. I didn't
2:03:11
dislike it.
2:03:12
Adam Curry: I'd like I thought it was clean. I
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John C Dvorak: don't remember you even mentioning it during
2:03:15
the discussion.
2:03:16
Adam Curry: So you don't even listen to me anymore. I listened
2:03:18
to we both there was also an e cosine. We both like the
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approved flagger but it wasn't that great. It was okay. Yeah,
2:03:27
we've
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John C Dvorak: had similar things. It also looks like one
2:03:29
of our mugs.
2:03:30
Adam Curry: You like the dame Kenny been eaten alive with a
2:03:33
bedbug? munching on the toe? The toe? That was close second. I
2:03:38
liked the one underneath it. Correct to record? The Olympics.
2:03:43
Yeah, I liked that one. was a nice piece. I like that because
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I know it would pop with a white background. And I like kind of
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Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: that would look good on though. Yes. I would
2:03:53
like NGO air which you hated the NGO air with it. Because you
2:03:57
didn't recognize the Corvette? No, I
2:03:58
Adam Curry: said it was a court. Yes, it why is the Corvette in
2:04:01
there? I recognize that as a Corvette. I understand why it
2:04:04
was as why was a Corvette?
2:04:06
John C Dvorak: Well, I mean, it was also Biden's Corvette. By
2:04:09
the way. I have
2:04:10
Adam Curry: boots on the ground bedbugs report since this is the
2:04:12
donation segment. Let's do it right now. All right, here's
2:04:15
what you're missing about bedbugs in France. There's very
2:04:18
few people who knew more about bedbugs than me. Is this a great
2:04:22
podcast or was our guy I have a business that helps landlords
2:04:26
hotels, dorms, retirement communities, etc. Monitor for
2:04:29
infesting pets pests such as roaches and bedbugs. Early
2:04:34
detection is key and saving hassle costs and rely and
2:04:37
liability regarding these pests. So here's what you're missing.
2:04:41
Paris is not exclusive to this problem. Yes, we know ASA in
2:04:44
Paris. It's one in eight residences in New York City.
2:04:48
Almost one in 11 residences is hit with bedbugs just this past
2:04:51
year. In the US we nearly eradicated bedbugs back in the
2:04:56
50s with excessive use of DDT, which was banned The 1972 And I
2:05:02
think you and I are both on the same page that the DDT ban was
2:05:05
stupid. And people still to this day believe that that cat causes
2:05:09
cancer. Would you say that we are on the same page about that?
2:05:13
John C Dvorak: Kind of but they did. I think there's the, at
2:05:17
least for me the jury's out on whether it caused the a certain
2:05:22
birds to the pellet shells, the Pelican or Pelican, yeah,
2:05:26
Adam Curry: that to get rid of it because of the pelican. And
2:05:28
you know, Tina ran behind the DDT truck when she was a kid
2:05:31
getting all all dusted up and she's still fine.
2:05:36
John C Dvorak: Well, there was a guy in San Jose, who is a
2:05:38
professor, I think, says he ate it. drank it,
2:05:41
Adam Curry: drank it, he ate it. Yeah, exactly. In the US, we
2:05:46
still have easy access to pesticides that are effective in
2:05:48
fighting back bedbugs and no agenda pro tip pro tip. Here we
2:05:52
go. The pesticide you want to get rid of bedbugs is called
2:05:56
Crossfire and can be picked up in nearly any hardware store
2:06:00
over the counter. Even walmart or amazon. It's the same
2:06:04
pesticide the pros use. There's a tip crossfire
2:06:08
John C Dvorak: that you heard of this product. I've heard a
2:06:10
crossfire hurricane. Yeah,
2:06:12
Adam Curry: well now you know. In France, EU rules banned such
2:06:16
pesticides. EU countries do not have the same access to
2:06:20
effective pesticides we have here. There's a very lucrative
2:06:23
black market smuggling past the pesticides available off the
2:06:26
shelf from Home Depot into these countries. Wow. Another curry
2:06:32
DEVAR Consulting Group business exit strategy. EU rules live the
2:06:37
only effective solution for bedbugs to be heat treatments.
2:06:41
Heating entire buildings up to 118 degrees Fahrenheit for 90
2:06:46
minutes kills bed bugs and their eggs. This is very expensive and
2:06:51
sometimes impractical to do. Especially with old buildings.
2:06:54
The high density living and aggressive movement of bedbugs
2:06:57
just means it's a matter of time before reinfestation occurs
2:07:00
after heat treatment. heat treatments offer no residual
2:07:03
protection, and so they just move right back in. bedbugs are
2:07:06
not new to Paris in 2020. Benjamin Greevil ran for mayor
2:07:10
under the IDEA to rid Paris of bedbugs in 100 days and then
2:07:14
resign. Well, that's not Melton, a free pony. He likely would
2:07:19
have won if it wasn't for a pesky sex tape scandal that
2:07:22
ruined his run. You go future stories about people. Future
2:07:28
stories about EU countries will involve will involve
2:07:31
cockroaches, mice and rats, as poison baits for these pests
2:07:35
have also been banned in the EU. Ha.
2:07:40
John C Dvorak: So here's the scenario. The rats, the
2:07:43
cockroaches and the and the mice all be because of climate
2:07:47
change.
2:07:47
Adam Curry: You bet. I said it again tonight.
2:07:51
John C Dvorak: You said you better you better believe in
2:07:52
saying you bet a lot better believe it better believe it.
2:07:56
Yes. I'm gonna change you judge you're putting your mind instead
2:07:59
of saying you bet say yep, yep. Yep.
2:08:03
Adam Curry: That's not annoying. Yep, yep. Yep. Yep, yep, yep,
2:08:08
givers. Okay, you got it. I'll do that. We'll see how long it
2:08:11
is before you get on my butt about that. So back to the
2:08:16
artwork. Thank you very much producer good work. That's it.
2:08:19
That's mean Crossfire, we learned something here. To us. I
2:08:24
don't think there was a
2:08:25
John C Dvorak: you know, if you don't listen to the no agenda,
2:08:26
if you don't get something you learn about something pragmatic
2:08:31
from every no agenda show. You're not listening carefully.
2:08:35
Yeah,
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Adam Curry: you probably should just go away. Probably shouldn't
2:08:40
be listening.
2:08:42
John C Dvorak: Just donate and go away.
2:08:45
Adam Curry: Thank you very much, Francisco. Scaramanga thank you
2:08:47
to all of the no agenda artists who diligently supported us with
2:08:52
their time and their talent. All of it, of course, is
2:08:54
appreciated. We're happy to provide critique when possible,
2:08:58
but we also use a lot of these for different things. As I said,
2:09:01
you can find them in the chapter art more often than not, thanks
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to the work of Dred Scott and these modern podcast apps. Now
2:09:07
we go to the treasure portion. We'd love to thank our executive
2:09:10
and Associate Executive producers who come in with above
2:09:13
200 or respectfully $300 for each episode. This really is
2:09:17
what makes the show we had a special special number today as
2:09:21
numerology matters and no agenda nation. 1597 is a Fibonacci
2:09:26
number. It's the top of the curve of the of the shell. I
2:09:30
guess what exactly? Maybe you can explain it better than I can
2:09:33
since you I can't explain it. You ran the promotion.
2:09:36
John C Dvorak: Well, yes, the woman who is listed here Laura
2:09:40
moody, she's now a dame had to drag you down because you put
2:09:46
the Fibonacci numbers into a sheet you get the golden ratio
2:09:51
comes around because of this Fibonacci numbers no matter
2:09:54
which numbers you use in the sequence. And of course, the
2:09:58
Fibonacci numbers where you add A lot of you is a series of
2:10:01
numbers starting with zero and you add the next number to this
2:10:07
first numbers. Zero plus one is one that so the next Fibonacci
2:10:11
numbers one and then the end you add one one, you get two that's
2:10:15
22 and one you get three that's the Fibonacci number. Two and
2:10:18
three and five, and five, and three is eight and eight goes on
2:10:23
and on and on until you get to these huge numbers which we have
2:10:27
today, which is Fibonacci number 1597. And that won't be another
2:10:32
one until I think then the 2000 Somethings will be dead. Well,
2:10:37
would the show be done the show will be done by should be the
2:10:40
last Fibonacci
2:10:41
Adam Curry: the last Fibonacci Fibonacci number show no sad to
2:10:44
see you go Fibonacci. So we celebrate the Baron of
2:10:48
backwardation Winter Park, Florida who I think should get a
2:10:51
special Fibonacci title because the Baron of Fibonacci club Yep,
2:10:56
Fibonacci club came in with 1597 exactly the show number donation
2:11:04
and the Fibonacci number club in the morning he says from barren
2:11:07
backwardation, backwardation, backwardation of contango show
2:11:12
number donation this should also trigger a title change Oh, it's
2:11:14
even better. I would like to be known as the Duke of Central
2:11:17
Florida. Granted, thanks to you guys and the great producers you
2:11:21
have supporting the show. We thank you so much Baron, and
2:11:25
enjoy this special Fibonacci will be a Fibonacci Duke. Very
2:11:29
special, never never happening in double jeopardy. I have no
2:11:33
never be
2:11:34
John C Dvorak: back to the old Fibonacci numbers. Laura Moody's
2:11:37
next and she's in Buckley, Washington. She's the one who
2:11:39
drew the little drawing that was in the newsletter that showed
2:11:42
the golden ratio. And she came in with $1,123.58 is the note no
2:11:49
dig came in to show before but she wanted to say no, no, no, I
2:11:51
want to be on that Fibonacci show. Okay, so she has Thank
2:11:54
you. I love the show. Keep covering Africa. Yeah, we'll do
2:11:58
that. No, no problem. We'll do it. No problemo. When I heard
2:12:01
about the special numbers for donations I thought about making
2:12:04
a Fibonacci donation using the first number in the series. I'd
2:12:08
like to be an executive producer and I get knighted the next time
2:12:11
the show number is a Fibonacci number. That will never happen.
2:12:14
If I miss show 1597 I have to wait to show 2584 That would be
2:12:19
the next 1000 shows from now. So I try to get get this point in
2:12:25
time I'd like to my title be damned Laura of the golden mean
2:12:29
you guys so de douching
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Unknown: you've been de deuced
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John C Dvorak: regards Laura moody.
2:12:36
Adam Curry: Thank you very much for your great idea. Thanks for
2:12:38
alerting us that we appreciate it.
2:12:41
John C Dvorak: As a matter of fact, if she hadn't had done
2:12:43
that to Fibonacci number would have come and gone without us
2:12:47
even knowing
2:12:48
Adam Curry: we would have been very sad about that. Very sad
2:12:51
because you know people always Hey, man, you missed a
2:12:53
compliment they know after
2:12:55
John C Dvorak: the fact I can't believe you missed the
2:12:57
Fibonacci.
2:13:00
Adam Curry: That's the kind of stuff we love hearing. Jan
2:13:04
demand also known as young to mum, Indigo faina bell here,
2:13:10
Belgium. 500 ITM boys, I drop another donation today and
2:13:15
barring any glitches in the back office, this should lift us
2:13:17
well, overnight hood, please switch through this 500 To my
2:13:21
smokin hot Sri Lankan wife, who will be 50 years old tomorrow,
2:13:25
the ninth of October. Done. We've been together for 15 years
2:13:30
and we never had a fight. I'd make her listen to your soothing
2:13:34
voices in the car but her amygdala is already so small she
2:13:37
just dozes off most types. Please Dame her Dame Gennaro
2:13:44
Anthony of the Ceylon spices and she would love some Pinot Noir
2:13:48
and Papademos poppadoms poppadoms what a poppadoms I
2:13:52
don't know poppadoms
2:13:54
John C Dvorak: something probably some Sri Lankan
2:13:56
specialties may guess
2:13:58
Adam Curry: I just got to put the order in homeless I can can
2:14:00
we get it Guys can you get the PAP at home see you poppadoms
2:14:05
are on the way thanks for all you do love your show no jingles
2:14:09
no karma young the mountain from Tico vana Bell him belt here
2:14:12
Belgium you got it and I am changing that switcheroo as we
2:14:17
speak.
2:14:18
John C Dvorak: Yeah also check for admission she's on the
2:14:20
birthday lists are infinite if you would start infinitum and
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as we have found We had enough about something. God bless you
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both for what you do cheers
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PayPal does that from time to time. So just don't just
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decouple you from us. Yeah, you got to check Yeah, you do have
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to check regularly because that PayPal does it I don't know if
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John C Dvorak: you if your credit card changes or the date
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of years you will not be donating to us anymore. You have
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Adam Curry: would take a trigger set a new credit I think most of
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is triggered by credit card changes. Oh, that makes sense. I
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guess Yeah. Too bad.
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John C Dvorak: And we haven't set up so they don't try it you
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know a lot of these guys who are scammers. He wants you to
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they'll find your new number and they will lock you in so you can
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they just harmless impossible to get off of it. No, we have
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Adam Curry: Oh, that's kind of good, I
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John C Dvorak: guess. Well, it's good for the people that are
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donating not good for us. I mean, it's good for us if they
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go back and notice Yeah, Ed Code is up next by the way he's in
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double up karma. Sure does.
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Unknown: You've got
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Adam Curry: Jodi Atkinson in Park City Utah 333 to 33 ATM
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John I'm just donation is honored my wonderful dog Callie
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ah another dog donation. Now Oh, Kelly would have been seven on
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sister Jill price mentioned in a previous donation. Oh, okay.
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Callie was like my third child and we went through a lot
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together. We were there for each other during the COVID Insanity
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and the many health issues she struggled with over the last
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three years including epilepsy and three hip surgeries. By the
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way, I heard from our our vet he's he's a real vet like does
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can they can fix that on cats and dogs that were the hips go
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on a week.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, that's crazy. I think they are.
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Adam Curry: We listen to you. Our friends in the car hiking
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cross country skiing during her recoveries. Now she's gone. I'm
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friends, cheers to you and cheers to you on a second
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John C Dvorak: Now we have a couple of people that had no
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Adam Curry: agenda indeed. Thank you James. David G money Jayco
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for what you do. I'd like to call out jar Jared Barr who hit
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me in the mouth and Levi Park as douchebags. Oh, okay, here's
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Jared. And here's Levi. Not sure if they've ever donated before.
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Well, I hope you're right because you know, douche bagging
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someone who's donated as a severe fence. I have not heard
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their names called since I started listening short after
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the January. He says January 8 insurrection. This is an
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insurrection I'm not important. It was it was worse than Pearl
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Harbor. What I don't remember the date. I do listen for the
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bonus content during this time as everyone should indeed, and
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we had a good bedbugs tip that most people who didn't love it
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Adam Curry: This will be a new reading. Hey, bedbugs to you,
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bro. You didn't You didn't hear and don't tell him. Please don't
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thank you very much Jacob.
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Illinois in the Morning guys going to keep this note short.
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Adam Curry: no rage quit yet.
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John C Dvorak: The priority gone? Taylor's with a second.
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Now good Sir Michael. He's in Snohomish, Washington that
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little town. Yeah, I'm looking for shingles. He was buying a
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whole load felt something hot on my legs and yet karma that was
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hurting shingles. In the last show. Please send travel karma
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for clear mountain passes as my family and I wrap up a six week
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the whole load did I just felt something hot on my legs got
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Adam Curry: I want to play that again. I just felt something hot
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and John. Well, how about that? Don't worry, they don't listen
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John C Dvorak: I will say this Mimi groused at me she says
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you're gonna listen to the show. I'm gonna listen to the show. So
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you better plug the book.
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Adam Curry: Oh, plug the book.
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Adam Curry: Then, of course Tina does listen so I'm going to plug
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There you go. We've done our duties. I made a personal pact
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to myself and JCD to keep my donations quiet allowing us to
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chime in. And our episode 1596 Adams NGO deep dive was nothing
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John C Dvorak: I actually looks like a piece of the sky is
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exactly
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Adam Curry: like a piece of the sky. I absolutely love when Adam
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does deep dives like this. It's like he's weaving together all
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the pieces of a mystery and solving it all right in front of
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you in a succinct and eloquent way. Truly a job well done. Well
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that's very kind of you to say thank
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John C Dvorak: you very much. If it's worth three or 33 bucks,
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it's definitely that's quite the puzzle. Laura Mullen Meanwhile,
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Adam Curry: Thank you very much, Laura. And coming you from send
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a guy at Tokyo Japan. Oh, I love hearing from our Dame Astrid
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you are fabulous. And because the deconstruction of the
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narratives becomes more and more necessary with each no agenda
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show. This is from Dame Astrid, Duchess of Japan and all the
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disputed islands in the Japan Sea. And in case I hadn't
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mentioned it. The keeper Tina and I we are planning on Tokyo
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for next year, which was our original plan was Japan I should
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say not Tokyo. Our original plan And for Japan was 2019 and of
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course it's shut down for many years so we're looking forward
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to seeing you day mastered and Sir Mark Of course in in the in
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Okay I got it here thank you for your courage sir Luca of the
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John C Dvorak: Isaac Contreras in Chula Vista, California
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Adam Curry: I think it's pretty good. William doggy, doggy I
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here. Associate Executive Producer ship says Hi, John
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anonymous donation of 200 to take me to knighthood just in
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course. And could I get a birthday for my biscuits for my
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birthday and an R two d two karma. Thanks for all you guys.
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Unknown: they always give me a biscuit on my birthday? Of
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course we can do you've got karma.
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John C Dvorak: San Antonio, Madrid, Madrid, Spain or sir
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Antonio, San Antonio, San Antonio from Madrid. A biscuit
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for my 65th birthday on October 9, the most popular request is a
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Adam Curry: Sir Antonio, where were you when we were in
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Barcelona. We weren't here. But by the way, Madrid is where all
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the i All the elites go to Madrid, all the elites of the
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world. The Kings, the queens, particularly the princess and
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the princess. They all have cool condos in Madrid. A little known
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fact, Madrid.
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John C Dvorak: Madrid is where the elites hang out. Have a
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great museum.
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Adam Curry: Sir Jimmy James almost here at the end here from
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Oklahoma City. $200 says God bless sir Jimmy James of the
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South Central flatlands. God bless to you jurists are Jimmy
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James Thank you very much.
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John C Dvorak: And finally Linda LAPACK and was always at the
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Adam Curry: And today we'll give her a TPP jobs, jobs, jobs,
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jobs. Karma and that wraps up our Executive Associate
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Executive Producers these titles are Real you can now say that
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supporting the no agenda show. John is gonna take us through
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the 50s We got some meetups we got some Knights and Dames cool
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stuff on the way.
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John C Dvorak: Sir Suge starts us off in cameras washed into a
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Adam Curry: They'll be the Arabian Peninsula and America's
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like a 10 10% off on Fibonacci Columbus Day you mentioned Thank
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you. Brian Schmidt in Canton Michigan also comes here one
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night went to deeds 970 And he does say something here I want
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to read you miss something that's in the show Dope Sick Big
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They brought it back with COVID breakthrough.
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Adam Curry: Good point. Good catch. Good catch. Breakthrough
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breakthrough infection. You're right.
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meet up in Parlin. New Jersey has switcheroo the collection
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for the New Jersey central New Jersey Toms River coaster
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donation raffle. The winner is Bart from Toms River Tucker born
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the end Jeffrey proc in Rochester New York. 100. John M
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Adams and bold secure Alabama. I'm not sure how you pronounce
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it but he's got a birthday coming up and he donated $82
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Kevin McLaughlin is on the list of course at 808. Save the
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snuggle puppies Breast Cancer Awareness Month.
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Adam Curry: Snuggle puppies.
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John C Dvorak: Sir Kevin De Archduke of Luna lover of
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SIR lab rat of connet Kenosha, my former hometown for the
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roundtable like brandy, old fashions, Brandy old fashions
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and cringle with some jobs coming to at the end, Darren
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save the party pillows. So he's now gone from lint naming melons
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to naming pillows. Acronym are not acronyms but there's a word
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for that. One thing you call something something else a
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Adam Curry: synonym for boobs or boobs synonyms.
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John C Dvorak: It's not a synonym. Exactly. There's a word
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somebody in that in the troll room knows what I was saying.
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isms euphemisms, that's what he's doing. Thank you. So Ryan
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right back to the $50 donors and I just go name and location
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Adam Curry: miss you miss David wicker. I just want you to
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number 42 Deaf is weaker?
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John C Dvorak: No I did rich a David worker Jackson. I think
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Jacksonville Florida 5510. But do you see his note? Yeah, but
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he that that note doesn't get read in under two hundreds.
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Because then it's is is inviting bargain basement reads. Okay. If
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he put it at the beginning, I'd have no choice. I see what
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you're saying. Got it. Like Grayson insurance in Aurora,
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Adam Curry: I gotcha. I gotcha. Gotcha.
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John C Dvorak: So he's got to up his game. Brian Richardson in
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Adam Curry: Thank you all very much for supporting the no
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as we just discussed, sometimes they just uncouple you from us
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Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.
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Adam Curry: as a service no agenda we like to know what's in
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the nation. We'd like to celebrate birthdays for
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everybody. So here's the list for today. John Adams wishes his
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sister Melissa Adams Dylan a happy birthday she celebrates
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today, young women his smokin hot. Sri Lankan wife Jenna
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Feeney celebrates her 50th Tomorrow Happy birthday in
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advance, as does sir Antonio. Turning 65 retiring tomorrow and
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William delegators 45 on the happy birthday from everybody
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well there you go. Congratulations and welcome to
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Adam Curry: Oh, that is a big one. On the podium Laura Mooney,
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all five of you now become knights and names the no agenda
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Unknown: with all day you be triggered
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Adam Curry: Bom Bom is like alright, you start today with
2:42:56
the ISOs because I'm always starting.
2:42:59
John C Dvorak: I always start, but okay, boom. Let's do this
2:43:03
one. I yay
2:43:11
Okay, let's try this one kick.
2:43:13
Unknown: Okay, got an extra kick.
2:43:18
John C Dvorak: And then last one is sexism.
2:43:20
Unknown: This is blatant sexism.
2:43:23
Adam Curry: That's pretty good. I don't know if I can compete. I
2:43:25
do have a couple. Hi, climactic moment. Is that this one
2:43:33
Unknown: wonderful stew.
2:43:38
John C Dvorak: funny, silly. You need to leave
2:43:41
Adam Curry: like that one. I couldn't hear it. Okay, and then
2:43:44
this you know, we always have the classic glow the planet you
2:43:48
gotta have a nice seed man in there. Like to sexism when
2:43:53
better when we say well, you did laugh at the wonderful stew
2:43:57
Yeah, but
2:43:57
John C Dvorak: because it's so stupid.
2:43:59
Adam Curry: Well that's that's that's good. I couldn't there's
2:44:01
John C Dvorak: muffled is muddy.
2:44:02
Unknown: This is blatant sexism.
2:44:05
Adam Curry: Yeah, thank you when
2:44:07
John C Dvorak: I think you is that
2:44:10
Unknown: let me listen again. This is blatant sexism. I don't
2:44:15
know. To MEGAN Oh, Megan Kelly. Yeah
2:44:22
Adam Curry: there you go. That's about all you need to hear about
2:44:24
the podcast
2:44:30
John C Dvorak: talking about blatant sexism I want to play a
2:44:32
couple of these this is the you know from the from the various
2:44:35
Senate hearings. Oh god okay. They're always bringing up these
2:44:39
days they bring some divided administration brings up to
2:44:42
crack most crackpot judges to get approval. So you have every
2:44:49
you know showboating Republican who's got any clue? Of course,
2:44:53
as you count as one does, yes, as one does. And you got the two
2:44:57
main guys the best of the group is Kennedy The
2:45:01
Adam Curry: Kennedys in a league of his own. I mean, it's pretty
2:45:04
John C Dvorak: close to it. But I think Ted Cruz also comes up
2:45:06
with some good stuff. But so I have two, three clips from this
2:45:10
one guy, this characters named Mustafa. They get their own
2:45:16
sheet. Kushi was stuff. Mighty handbag, cash you buy
2:45:22
Adam Curry: stuff you buy? Yeah, I gotcha. Yeah. So
2:45:25
John C Dvorak: let's go with Kennedy versus cashew by mix
2:45:28
one.
2:45:32
Unknown: Chairman, Judge cashify I'm looking at an order you've
2:45:38
issued as a magistrate judge here requiring the use of
2:45:45
pronouns in your court. I'm already laughing. Do you require
2:45:52
the use of pronouns the declaration of one's pronouns in
2:45:55
your court?
2:45:57
Senator that may be referring to perhaps a trial management order
2:46:00
or a scheduling order of of some kind. Yeah.
2:46:04
It's a statement you've issued, here it is.
2:46:11
It's an invitation for people to to identify their pronouns and
2:46:17
or their honorifics.
2:46:19
honorifics, your requirement that you issued to all people in
2:46:23
your court. You say, quote, when you introduce yourself in a
2:46:27
meeting, you should say, My name is Judge bIack. And my pronouns
2:46:32
are blank. And right,
2:46:35
Senator, those were not requirements or rules. Those
2:46:37
were suggestions and suggestion that those were suggestions and
2:46:41
invitations for people to use. And
2:46:42
you also in your directive, you say, quote, I'd like counsel to
2:46:47
introduce themselves giving your full name and your honorific,
2:46:52
such as ms and ms. Period, MCs, or Mr. Not Ms. And if your
2:46:57
client won't be making an appearance, I asked you to
2:47:00
please introduce them to the court by giving me their full
2:47:03
name and their honorifics such as ms and ms. Period MCs are Mr.
2:47:09
And quo. Is that right?
2:47:12
Senator is not a directive. Again. It's an invitation for
2:47:15
people to introduce themselves.
2:47:17
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay. Honor is honorifics. A thing I've never
2:47:21
heard of honorific.
2:47:22
John C Dvorak: That's the latest. That's you. We've
2:47:24
noticed this in the clips we get from kick Tech where people call
2:47:26
themselves MCs.
2:47:28
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, but what is an honorific?
2:47:31
John C Dvorak: That's it like mister missus MCs.
2:47:33
Adam Curry: This is a show title is what it is. honorific
2:47:36
honorifics. honorifics. Yeah,
2:47:38
John C Dvorak: I think so. And he goes on part two, where he
2:47:41
goes off to the guy even harder.
2:47:43
Unknown: All right, I'm looking at an article and from the
2:47:49
Oregon State Bar bulletin from May of 2021. And I want to I
2:47:57
want to read one of your quotes. Quote, we have to set aside
2:48:05
conventional ideas of proof that may satisfy me say that again,
2:48:12
we have to set aside conventional ideas of proof you
2:48:16
said, when we are dealing with the personal and interpersonal
2:48:20
work of equity division and inclusion,
2:48:24
Adam Curry: division, and actually
2:48:26
John C Dvorak: division. I know you said that. You gotta wonder
2:48:29
if he said it on purpose or not. This guy's you never know what
2:48:32
that guy?
2:48:32
Adam Curry: Yeah. So I'm just what is this? Why is he is he
2:48:36
hearing this judge? I mean, why is he doing this? Why is this
2:48:38
judge being grilled by the
2:48:40
John C Dvorak: because the judge is being set up to be one of the
2:48:43
federal judges, oh, big systems class guy, that the Biden people
2:48:48
bring up how beautiful
2:48:50
Unknown: as a judge, I can appreciate the challenge of
2:48:53
employing a different mode for understanding truth than that
2:48:57
which most lawyers are accustomed to in our work and
2:49:01
quote, did you write that?
2:49:04
That is a quote from that that article.
2:49:09
So one more dealing with equity, diversity and inclusion, we
2:49:15
should set aside conventional ideas of proof. Is that right?
2:49:21
In the larger context of interpersonal and personal
2:49:24
relationships, the idea of being able to have a conversation with
2:49:29
somebody
2:49:30
Yeah, but she didn't talk about conversation. He said proof
2:49:34
it's in the context of having a conversation with somebody about
2:49:38
the issue of their background or experience
2:49:40
when the issue is equity diversity or inclusion, we
2:49:45
should have a different set of proof is that right?
2:49:48
When it comes to the the, the space in which people have
2:49:53
interpersonal relationships with with one another, the idea of
2:49:56
respecting and dignifying each other with their experiences is
2:50:00
An important part.
2:50:01
So all issues have one set of proof, which has been handed
2:50:06
down by our state supreme courts, or US Supreme Court,
2:50:10
except you think we ought to have a different set of proof
2:50:12
when Equity Diversity and Inclusion are at issue. Is that
2:50:16
right?
2:50:16
In all of my years on the bench? Senator, I have applied the law,
2:50:22
the rules of evidence, the case precedent,
2:50:24
I mean, move on.
2:50:26
Adam Curry: Wow. So with all these people just virtue
2:50:28
signaling Cox?
2:50:30
John C Dvorak: Oh, there's a bunch of them and they keep
2:50:32
bringing him up. And so Cruz goes after they're
2:50:34
Adam Curry: not sincere is the point. They're not sincere when
2:50:36
it comes down to it. Oh,
2:50:38
John C Dvorak: no, I don't think they are. In fact, they this is
2:50:40
one of the few times I'd say you're right on this because I'm
2:50:43
usually defending them for their sincerity. Yes. But here Cruz
2:50:48
goes after the same guy. And this one is really a shocker.
2:50:53
Unknown: Okay, well, let's turn to something else you wrote in
2:50:56
the Wisconsin women Law Journal. Again, this is your writing. The
2:51:00
name of the article is destabilizing, power and rape.
2:51:03
Why consent theory and rape law has turned on its head you cited
2:51:06
Professor Catherine MacKinnon who argued, quote, sexuality
2:51:10
itself is a power web in which heterosexual relations per se,
2:51:15
are infused with violence and control and, quote, most
2:51:19
intercourse is rape. I know that her views are extreme. And yet,
2:51:25
and when Senator Blackburn asked you about them here at the
2:51:27
hearing, when you want to be confirmed, you try to distance
2:51:30
yourself from them. But here's what you wrote. In the article,
2:51:33
you embrace those views you wrote, quote, I employ the view
2:51:37
that rape is sex in order to focus on the significance of
2:51:40
consent and rape law, the sex act is a violation per se
2:51:44
without consent in order to properly align the consent
2:51:47
doctrine and write blah with consent in other areas of law,
2:51:50
non consent must be presumed. Do you believe that as a mainstream
2:51:57
view that that heterosexual sex is rape?
2:52:02
Adam Curry: Let me just stop for a second. So this guy says that
2:52:05
unless you have explicit consent is always non consensual.
2:52:12
John C Dvorak: Now, he says all sexes rape.
2:52:15
Unknown: Senator, in that article, I was exploring
2:52:18
different ideas and theories and I was employing the hypothetical
2:52:23
that you've just described, to try to tease out a particular
2:52:27
issue with with respect to consent. With respect to your
2:52:30
last point, you
2:52:31
also quoted Professor McKinnon, who wrote, quote, sexuality is
2:52:35
to feminism, what work is to Marxism? Let me ask you again.
2:52:39
What does that mean?
2:52:41
Senator, I was summarizing different theories that people
2:52:45
were presenting. So that way I could explain them and and then
2:52:50
employ an analysis with respect to the issue of, of what consent
2:52:54
was in the context of sexual assault back in 30 years ago,
2:52:58
I think your views are far far out of the mainstream.
2:53:01
Adam Curry: Senator Welch. Wow, Jesus come quickly. This world
2:53:07
John C Dvorak: guys this world they keep putting these
2:53:09
characters up and these guys you know, and they did the Democrats
2:53:12
run the Senate, so they passed the guy through anyway.
2:53:15
Adam Curry: The really this guy this guy gets gets gets the nod.
2:53:19
John C Dvorak: I'd be surprised if he didn't.
2:53:22
Adam Curry: Oh, man, this is so wrong. These people. These
2:53:26
people are weird
2:53:27
John C Dvorak: black guy, too. I should mention. And, and a
2:53:31
Muslim?
2:53:33
Adam Curry: Well, neither of those are disqualifying. But the
2:53:36
John C Dvorak: No, it's not. But if you think that all sex is
2:53:38
rape, you should be just kicked off to you should even be doing
2:53:43
anything. He's
2:53:44
Adam Curry: so odd, man. Okay, well, that's thoroughly
2:53:47
depressing. What states what states? Are they going to be
2:53:50
federal judges in?
2:53:53
John C Dvorak: I don't know. I have no idea where he's getting
2:53:55
assigned.
2:53:57
Adam Curry: All right. I would like to end with some big
2:54:00
pharma. Because I'm confused. Now. I'm not sure. First of all,
2:54:06
we will write ozempic And we'll go v not necessarily good for
2:54:09
your health. No, but I'm trying to figure out what I mean. I
2:54:13
think I know what's going on here in the casino. Obviously,
2:54:16
they spent $500 million in the last seven months on
2:54:19
advertising, marketing, underwriting, native ads,
2:54:23
whatever you want to call it, whatever you want to call it. So
2:54:26
CBS Evening News has the first, I would say overly positive
2:54:31
ozempic story.
2:54:32
Unknown: It turns out popular drugs used to suppress appetite
2:54:36
like ozempic and we go we may have an economic side effect.
2:54:40
People who take them appear to be buying less food at Walmart.
2:54:43
Yeah. Where today Elodie Nicholas got her prescriptions
2:54:47
and her groceries?
2:54:48
Yeah, absolutely. I believe that I buy unless she started
2:54:52
taking ozempic After having two heart attacks, and she's lost 36
2:54:57
pounds since May has it changed what you eat?
2:55:00
100% This stuff turns my stomach. My topic heart used to
2:55:06
be all the fluid because I'd have all the junk and the sodas
2:55:08
and all that now it's, it's half or less than half of what it
2:55:12
used to be.
2:55:13
Walmart has one of the most sophisticated systems for
2:55:16
collecting data on its shoppers and US CEO John Ferner told
2:55:19
Bloomberg, they've seen smaller checkouts from people taking
2:55:22
these medications. We do see a slight pullback and overall
2:55:25
basket less units slightly less calories. Does it surprise you
2:55:29
that Walmart's looking at this sort of data? I think every you
2:55:33
know, large retailer is looking at this sort of data they have
2:55:35
the data. Through their loyalty programs. Leo feller is Chief
2:55:39
Economist at numerator, a company that analyzes shopping
2:55:42
receipts for millions of people,
2:55:44
and then we use that data to help inform retailers to help
2:55:48
inform food manufacturers health care
2:55:50
providers wrote more than 9 million prescriptions for drugs
2:55:53
use for weight loss in the last three months of 2022. And Morgan
2:55:58
Stanley estimates 7% of the US population will be taking these
2:56:02
medications by 2035.
2:56:05
Over the course of the next 10 years. This will likely change
2:56:08
the way that consumers shop and what consumers are buying
2:56:12
for Elodie Nicholas and her husband. That's already
2:56:15
happened.
2:56:15
I buy the groceries so it's also helping him to eat healthy.
2:56:20
Adam Curry: Go to eat healthy. Oh, there you go. 7% of the
2:56:25
population will die from this I'm sure this is so bad
2:56:28
John C Dvorak: to take trying to kill us all here. Here's
2:56:31
Adam Curry: the here's the side effects very concerning, but I
2:56:34
think this is a secret native ad at the same time prescription
2:56:37
drugs used to suppress appetite and we probably should state
2:56:41
that we know from scientific fact and marketing research that
2:56:47
telling people a product will kill them makes them buy it
2:56:51
more. See the cigarette cartons with horrible diseased lungs and
2:56:56
hearts and this has only created more demand for the products.
2:57:01
Unknown: Prescription drugs used to suppress appetite have
2:57:04
exploded in popularity this past year with social media
2:57:09
influencers and celebrities sharing the success they've had
2:57:13
using the drugs and magnetite marketed as Wigo V and ozempic
2:57:17
known technically as GLP. One agonists
2:57:21
type two diabetes
2:57:22
discovered the Zabbix riser
2:57:24
developed to treat diabetes Olympics off label use for
2:57:28
weight loss is driving its demand. But now a new study from
2:57:32
the Journal of the American Medical Association found that
2:57:35
for every 1000 patients who use the drug, some suffered moderate
2:57:39
to severe stomach problems, including pancreatitis and
2:57:44
stomach paralysis. Yeah, each one
2:57:46
of these complications could be serious stuff that could be life
2:57:49
threatening.
2:57:50
And while you Langone chief gastroenterologist Dr. Marco
2:57:54
Chapin says patients outside of the drugs target audience are at
2:57:58
a higher risk for exhibiting rare side effects.
2:58:02
The American psyche is given me a pill or medicine to fix a
2:58:06
problem.
2:58:07
The drugs manufacturer Novo Nordisk responded to the
2:58:09
findings saying it stands behind the safety and efficacy of all
2:58:13
our GLP one ra medicines when used consistent with the product
2:58:18
labeling and approved indications Oh,
2:58:20
Adam Curry: wow, this is really tricky. So it's used off label
2:58:27
and they say no, we stand by our products as long as you use them
2:58:30
for what they're intended for which is type two diabetes,
2:58:33
right not for weight loss and and also snuck in here a little
2:58:39
well you know, if you just do the the old well if you just you
2:58:43
know just you want a pill to lose some weight well, you could
2:58:45
probably die from that but not if you're a fat so
2:58:47
Unknown: the American psyche is giving me a pill or medicine to
2:58:51
fix a problem.
2:58:52
The drugs manufacturer Novo Nordisk responded to the
2:58:55
findings saying it stands behind the safety and efficacy of all
2:58:59
our GLP one ra medicines when used consistent with the product
2:59:03
labeling and approved indication here comes the study comes as
2:59:07
drug companies work toward manufacturing a generic version
2:59:10
of the drug. Which if successful, would give more
2:59:13
people access.
2:59:15
Adam Curry: rebrand. They're just going to rebrand with a
2:59:19
generic which they own is genius. Well, you know that
2:59:24
already changed the name somehow. Well not they're gonna
2:59:26
rebrand it of course the complete completely different
2:59:29
ozempic will go VI that might kill you, but this new stuff,
2:59:33
John C Dvorak: which is exactly the same stuff. It's
2:59:35
Adam Curry: exactly the same. What kind of name could they
2:59:38
could we come up with for them? If they were to ask us? Poop it
2:59:46
out.com Yeah, why? No, no, it has to be a completely new name.
2:59:52
Yeah, it'd
2:59:52
John C Dvorak: be still my way. I say, Wait, how definitely
2:59:56
would they be nice. They'd like to put a bunch of words together
2:59:58
like weight loss. Yeah, loss. Weight loss.
3:00:03
Adam Curry: Fat no more.
3:00:05
John C Dvorak: That's too obvious.
3:00:07
Adam Curry: So obvious.
3:00:07
John C Dvorak: Yes the sound like something chemical
3:00:10
Adam Curry: deflate. deflate a fire.
3:00:14
John C Dvorak: We have to think about how about die skinny
3:00:16
people get paid big bucks and come up with these names I
3:00:19
Adam Curry: skinny. I'd like a skinny like die skinny slim die
3:00:24
skinny is good. That's good. Good name because you can just
3:00:26
call D skinny. Now if people would wouldn't even notice it.
3:00:32
Yeah, nice skin. Die skin. Ooh, die skin. Well, that sounds too
3:00:37
much like skin. Dice guy. Dice guy dot dice guy. Yeah. Anal
3:00:44
leakage. Now guys know troll Troll. Troll was gone crazy.
3:00:48
deflate. deflate would be pretty good.
3:00:50
John C Dvorak: No, no, no, you
3:00:52
Adam Curry: don't like I like dice skinny D scale.
3:00:53
John C Dvorak: One thing deflate can't be trademarked.
3:00:56
Adam Curry: No, it can't. I guess dice guy. DICE DICE guy
3:01:03
Unknown: will work on it. Work on it.
3:01:06
Adam Curry: Alright, trip trim. Maybe something was trim, trim,
3:01:10
trim, trim, lean, trim, trim Alene. Boy, if they really want
3:01:16
to know they have to pay us.
3:01:18
John C Dvorak: We're done. You have given away free names.
3:01:20
Yeah,
3:01:20
Adam Curry: really? You want to do your AI we do that? Or we do
3:01:24
that to you the
3:01:24
John C Dvorak: next time? Yeah, I'm excited about that. AI is
3:01:27
annoying to you. You get all
3:01:30
Adam Curry: we need time to get worked up about that coming up
3:01:33
next the no agenda stream.com or if you're in one of those modern
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Nelson. And Sir Michael Anthony is a stellar All Star wide AI
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the mayor, the mayor. The mayor is in Latin X County. That's
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right. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas hill country
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here in FEMA Region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm
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Adam curry.
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John C Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain
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Unknown: Nueva York this is your nail deep in the jungles of
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Latin X America. Oh, no vacation. I am here to tell the
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migrants I invited to NYC to nevermind stay home. You heard
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at school he people keep telling you all that you could come to
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New York City for free money. Because I said so. We are now
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out of room and we are out of money. So to all of y'all hop in
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the border like it's the subway turnstile. I'm gonna tell you
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once I go find new New York is not a sanctuary city. I repeat
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New York No. So no sanctuary city is no muss, no fuss
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Dolla dolla bills, y'all. I'm confident the Senate will pass
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further urgent assistance to Ukraine later this year.
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Israel receives more US aid each year than any other country.
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Faced with a surge in illegal crossings the Biden
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administration has announced it is waving more than two dozen
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federal laws to add on to the border wall in southern Texas.
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This is a major reversal for President Biden food during the
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2020 campaign vowed that not another foot of wall would be
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constructed under his administration. Oh no, you're
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just a nother break in no wall.
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Be ready, be the one the best beauty the friend and everyone
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around us. Brave pushing the side and open mind
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down on me In the burdens like broken one she was blinded
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loyalty back to you for a better life beyond your free
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for someone else
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like to try new Lions for life
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story This has never happened before in our lifetime
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Adam Curry: many believe and it's likely true it's the viral
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video many believe and it's likely true you just get viral
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stuff made me believe and it's likely true if you have
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Unknown: many believe and it's likely true
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Adam Curry: these vaccines are safe they're effective many
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believe and it's likely true. You're gonna die and this is
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from a doctor
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Unknown: MoPhO boruch.org/in A This is blatant sexism
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