December 21st, 2023 • 3h 14m
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Adam Curry: Uh oh my God. Adam
curry, John C Devorah. Say
December 21 2023. This is your
award winning Kuma nation media
assassination episode 1618. This
is no agenda, crossing the
border up and broadcasting live
from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region
number six. In the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam curry came
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where everybody
agrees that perhaps the dumbest
and maybe the worst show in the
history of television is the
masked singer. I'm John C.
Dvorak skill. In the morning, in
the morning to you in the
morning, everybody.
Adam Curry: Why are you watching
the masked singer? I
John C Dvorak: mean, not. That's
why I said it's showing the
history of television. Okay,
just one. What is anybody watch
it?
Adam Curry: I don't know. If
John C Dvorak: you watched Jenny
McCarthy go. Oh, my God. She's
all she does on the show. Is she
on this show? Yeah, she's one of
the judges.
Adam Curry: Man. You know, that
could be me. That could be my
career.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it would
fit right in is
Adam Curry: Oh, my Oh, my God.
She does you imagine, you know,
getting old? You know, Vijay,
the only people over 45 know who
you are. And that's all you got
is you're gonna be a judge on
some shows.
John C Dvorak: Based probably
better than what we're getting.
Yeah. Well, hmm. Especially
after this fantastic promotion
we did for the Golden Circle or
whatever it
Adam Curry: was actually, there
was something interesting.
Netflix published its numbers
that they're viewing and guess
hours viewed numbers yet?
John C Dvorak: No. Yeah, they do
the second billions of seconds
viewed they have this crazy. Not
the way their system is just
nuts. Right? They can, they can
nail it to the obvious to the
minute. So
Adam Curry: James Cridland who
does pod news. He's nice. He's
does a daily show. And he he's a
numbers guy. Because of course,
the podcast industrial complex
is all about numbers. Don't
worry, it's all going up more
ads are coming. It's gonna be
great. And so he put together
this calculator because we
publish our our stats on this
thing called op threes nuts how
we know that we have eight
900,000 people a month to listen
to the show. And so he took that
and he cross reference it with a
Netflix numbers. And as it turns
out, this show is bigger than
93% of any shows on Netflix. I
wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. And
Netflix on average, people pay
53 cents an hour for the content
if you break it all down into
what people are watching and how
much they pay per month. Man if
only if only if
John C Dvorak: everybody Yeah,
well, that's we do have some
people that do pay that. Well,
yeah, but contribute that to the
show. But it's only 1% 2% of the
total. Yeah.
Adam Curry: If only if only
everybody did it would be great.
Well,
John C Dvorak: Netflix has a
model that they're long it was
to make it even partially work.
Everybody else is struggling
with streaming.
Adam Curry: Struggling with
streaming. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: I think the
reason that there's everyone's
struggling with streaming is
Netflix got in they perfected
the model. Yeah, they did a good
job of taking their customer
base and turning into stream
street hackers.
Adam Curry: Remember, they had
DVDs. Remember, they were the
mail around? I was cool. I
John C Dvorak: was and the other
people are Johnny come lately.
So what are you gonna do to one
of those few examples in tech?
And I would call this tech in
Tech where the first guy got in
first dominated dominant.
Generally speaking, it's like
the second or third Gale
perfects things.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. So I was
the first in podcasting and no
one has heard no one has
perfected it second or third.
John C Dvorak: No, you actually
have you're the first to get
because you did the pocket. The
podcasting. 2.0 is something
that should get you a Nobel
Peace Prize.
Adam Curry: So just since you
brought that up last night did
the first value for value
concert. And people were using
the modern apps and they were
streaming value for value and I
think the artists Ainsley
crystella made like $3,000 value
for value works. It really does.
John C Dvorak: Well, how much
would she normally make zero?
Adam Curry: He's talking about
zero. If first of all you can't
even do a live streaming
concert. What is Spotify is
going to pay you for that. No,
no, no. Tonight they do it
again. Nicer there live from
Minneapolis and it's exciting
stuff. It's exciting. Anyway,
this whole what's poppin right
now that everyone in my neck of
the woods I said it neck of the
woods is talking about is these
migrants and let's just call
them asylum seekers, illegal
immigrants. And so now, it seems
that on social media people have
discovered that they're being
flown to other countries, other
cities in the country which we
knew this
John C Dvorak: has been going on
for years. But now all of a
sudden that that those those
midnight flights has been
documented people will take
their cameras out and tomb shown
these flights being filled.
Adam Curry: Yeah, but now it's
commercial flights. They're
buying seats from Delta and
American, by the way, business
class seats and people are
getting Yes, and people are
getting bumped from the flights
because there's so many migrants
who are getting these these
Priebe this premium boarding
premium seating. I mean, you can
have as many asylum seekers and
migrants as you want illegal
immigrants in America. But when
you start bumping people off of
flights, people lose their crap.
This is this is where Americans
draw the line, Hey, you want to
be here illegally, whatever, but
you are not taking my seat. So
this is mainly coming from
Arizona. Large large groups of
people. Tickets typically
purchased within 72 hours of
departure because whoever buys
the tickets needs a name to
purchase tickets making the
fares very high. So these are
very profitable for the
airlines. This is why they don't
get bounced. They also do not
have to meet normal TSA
John C Dvorak: is costing the
American taxpayer Oh, brother.
Adam Curry: We still we got a we
got a note from this as a good
note boots on the ground. Nice.
We'll just get right into it.
I've got a couple of clips to
telling you this. And anonymity.
I'm an officer with TSA San
Diego International Airport. My
background with TSA is with the
behavior detection program and
the insider threat teams. So
this is not just some rando
who's yelling at you about your
bottle water
John C Dvorak: guys is looking
for witching
Adam Curry: Exactly. What's the
Oh, hey, look at that curry guy.
Man. He's twitching all over the
place. Pull him over. I have 10
years of experience with
observing and conversing with
the traveling public and fought
off the vaccine mandate. So if
you'd like I've earned my
stripes to speak on this with
some authority. Yes, sir. Oh,
yes, sir. Yes, sir. For him.
There are hundreds or her there
are hundreds of illegals slash
asylum seekers passing through
our airport daily for well over
a year now. And recently I've
been able to piece together who
exactly as assisting with these
people. Christian family
services and Jewish Family
Services have volunteers that
guide large groups from the bus
drop off through TSA screening
right onto their departing
flights. to young women that I
assume were volunteers caught my
eye in the spring and through
the summer because of their
flirtatious nature with the
young male TSOs of the time they
spent inside the sterile area
without any asylum seekers in
their care. I approached one of
the girls that was speaking to a
Jewish Family Services volunteer
and was able to conclude these
two young women are paid
contracts and employees with an
NGO non governmental
organization called IEM. i e
m.com. Based on what I read of
this group, they're well
entrenched with assisting the
government through many avenues
of disaster relief, even the
COVID vaccine rollout these guys
do at all. I mean, they are a
military contractor of their
big, big business, ie m.com. As
for the asylum seeker manual, I
try to come to your own
conclusions. I think this im
group, along with many others
take custody of these people,
when they crossed the border,
keep control of them with
housing all the way through,
even with with even judicial
proceedings to support court
dates have been confirmed to be
well into 2027 and beyond. This
is how it's working. So all this
busing stuff from Texas. Yeah,
sure. And in fact, Texas is
tired of the buses themselves
since Chicago has been
impounding buses will just rent
the plane.
Unknown: It was a private plane
that was chartered by Texas
Department of Emergency
Management that brought 100
migrants here to Chicago Tuesday
night, according to the city and
landed at O'Hare Airport around
715. And on social media, Texas
Governor Greg Abbott's
administration posted about the
plane saying, because Mayor
Johnson is failing to live up to
a city's welcoming city
ordinance by targeting migrant
buses from Texas. We are
expanding our operation to
include flights to Chicago like
the Biden administration has
been doing across the country.
So President Biden has steps up
and does his jobs to secure the
border Texas will continue
taking historic action to help
our local partners respond to
the Biden nade crisis. Governor
Abbott says his administration
has blessed nearly 83,000
migrants to sanctuary cities.
Chicago has received more than
24,000 so far. And during an
interview with Wu TTW Mayor
Brandon Johnson said the
governor of Texas determined to
create chaos and we also know
that the Latino Caucus will join
others out here downtown later
on this morning to demand more
help from the federal government
government I should say in
handling my We're in crisis here
in Chicago.
Adam Curry: So everyone's
blaming Abbott, of course. And
what he did was obviously, what
we should just call it
performative with this. Show me
your papers bill that he signed,
the Republican
Unknown: governor of Texas, Greg
Abbott signed a sweeping new law
today that lets local police
arrest migrants who crossed the
border illegally. It also lets
state judges order them to leave
the country. Opponents say it
directly violates federal
authority over immigration.
Texas Republicans say the Biden
administration isn't doing
enough to stop illegal
immigration. So
Adam Curry: we got rob our
constitutional lawyer who
immediately is all over this so
we have a good breakdown of what
what the law is actually three
bills. It's not just one, which
is worth breaking down. Three
state law bills. three bills the
first allows Texas law
enforcement officers to arrest
suspected illegals and judges to
deport them summarily critics of
course, calling this the show me
your papers law. The second bill
funds the wall, along with
stepped up patrols in places
like Houston and the third bill
ups the penalty for being a
coyote or running a stash house
from two years imprisonment
imprisonment to 10. And this law
was, as you could predict,
immediately challenged in court,
the ACLU filed a suit
representing loss Americans
immigrant advocacy Advocacy
Center American gateways and El
Paso County, El Paso we've been
overrun with illegal
immigration. Like We're suing
you. We love it. I know what's
wrong with El Paso. But of
course, they're sort of they've
asked for an injunction
injunction precluding Texas from
enforcing the law as declared
declaratory judgment decreeing
that the law is
unconstitutional, which it
probably is. plaintiffs have
stated they will seek a
temporary injunction to tide
them over all the case proceeds
according to our constitutional
lawyer, they'll probably be a
stay. And so this will have to
play out over the next year,
they need to file a cert
petition with the Supreme Court.
So this will go to the Supreme
Court in the meantime, this is
going to be the big the big
distraction. So we don't pay
attention to Israel. Don't pay
attention to Hunter Biden, don't
pay attention to Joe Biden
falling down. I mean, it's
really in competition with the
John C Dvorak: anti sell down
again.
Adam Curry: You would know
because everyone's either
talking about Trump or this and
I have to border clips. Okay.
And then I have a couple of
things and a conclusion here. I
John C Dvorak: have some Texas
border update. Texas border
update.
Adam Curry: Oh, it's one of our
favorites. Oops.
Unknown: This is in D. D.
Biden's deliberate inaction, has
left Texas to fend for itself.
Texas Governor Greg Abbott on
Monday signed a law giving local
officials the ability to arrest
and deport illegal immigrants.
Multiple civil rights groups are
now challenging it saying Texas
unlawfully keeps the federal
government from enforcing
immigration laws.
Adam Curry: And this guy sounds
a bit like Patrick bet David,
don't you think little Yes,
that's
John C Dvorak: funny. This is
you get to see this guy. He's a
very German looking guy No
visually, is he's actually
doesn't look quite like his
voice.
Unknown: It's interesting from
enforcing immigration laws and
that it illegally bars
immigrants from applying for
asylum. Mexican president Andres
Manuel Lopez Obrador says Mexico
is also preparing to challenge
the law.
To tell our fellow countrymen
and migrants we will be
defending them. Texas governor
acts that way because he wants
to be the vice president
candidate for the Republican
Party in the United States. And
with these measures, he wants to
gain popularity.
Republican footage from Eagle
Pass Texas on Wednesday shows
1000s of immigrants trying to
enter the Lone Star State, the
new law is set to take effect in
March. In other Texas related
news, a razor wire fence is
allowed to stay up at the state
southern border for now. A
federal appeals court on Tuesday
temporarily blocked the Biden
administration from removing the
fence.
Adam Curry: I will point out
that it is supposed to take
place March 5, which is the
beginning the date exact date of
the Republican primaries. So
coincidence, probably not. It's
all political. It's all
performative. And I'm going to
read a bill to you which I think
explains what's really going on
here. What is your second clip
here?
Unknown: Back in October, the
states sued the Biden
administration for cutting
almost 30 miles of concertina
wire. And lastly, illegal
immigration now affects
international trade. business
groups and train operators are
pressing the government to
reopen rail bridges in Eagle
Pass and El Paso border
authorities closed them on
Monday because They're
understaffed. The US Chamber of
Commerce says shutting down road
traffic through Eagle Pass in El
Paso will inflict significant
economic harm
Adam Curry: Dalia, there's going
to be economic harm, it's going
to be horrible. And I have a
couple of short clips here from
Democrat representatives. Who
are I mean, very interesting how
they I think the American public
in general is against this, that
everyone's sick of it everybody
in even in the so called
sanctuary cities, they see it,
that you can't hide it anymore.
If you have if people haven't
been kicked out of their hotels
for their wedding parties,
because migrants, Bo and it's
and by the way, the language is
asylum seekers, migrants,
there's very little illegal
immigrants, there's none of that
being said, this is Jasmine
Crockett,
Unknown: today concern because
the Republicans have never
gotten immigration. Right.
That's just the fact of it.
There's not very much that the
Republicans get right, in
general. And so to basically say
that issues of national
security, as relates to how
we're going to take care of our
allies should be tied to this
mangled immigration process is
absolutely insane. I mean, when
you look at somebody like Greg
Abbott, my governor, and his
solution, his solution is to
basically say, Hey, we're gonna
kill people that are trying to
come in, like, that's not a
solution, like the Republicans
don't have the solutions. They
want to continue to defund the
aid that is going to aid but
they're border security. Well, I
mean, who's gonna sign up for
this job and you're not paying
worth anything?
Adam Curry: She's dumb. All
right. She represents the state
of Texas.
John C Dvorak: Boy, she is.
She's
Adam Curry: dumb. Here's Jaya
Paul, who is it was very
concerned that you know, because
there's, there's work going on.
Now. Remember, the whole idea is
no aid for Ukraine, no aid for
Israel aid. This is called aid,
no bombs for Israel, no bombs
for Ukraine. And Toby, fix the
border? Well, Joe, better not do
that. That question that you get
from the left. If he doesn't
agree to these changes. He's
Unknown: gonna there's going to
be a lot. We have to put
together a coalition that is the
same coalition we delivered in
2020. For him to win the White
House for us to win the Senate.
And for us to kick back the
House. And that coalition
involves a lot of young voters.
It involves a lot of immigrant
voters involves a lot of folks
of color.
Adam Curry: Immigrant voters,
yeah, yeah. Oh, she said the
quiet part out loud there,
didn't she? We need immigrant
voters, but almost almost as
stupid. As Debbie Dingell. What
a great name. I like the angle
Debbie Dingell. I feel bad. She
wants waves put
Unknown: us your response when
he says that the border is
broken under President Biden
orders been broken was broken
under Donald Trump as well. Or
immigration reform. We need a
comprehensive immigration reform
for decades. Let me also say
you've got small business
clamoring for people we've
talked caregiving, which is in
desperate shape, and we need to
bring some ways people need to
be we don't want illegals. We
don't want other people coming
in. We don't want drugs coming
across our border. We need a
balanced comprehensive
immigration policy.
Adam Curry: Okay, first of all,
whenever someone when someone
says comprehensive immigration
reform, they're full of crap,
because all you need to do is
just follow the law as it is.
But she literally sits there and
says we need caregivers. We need
Maria to take care of our kids.
Unknown: Come on. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I mean, gardeners,
gardeners, yes, please. More
slabs.
John C Dvorak: And we need who's
going to take care who's going
to clean our toilets? Yeah. One
of the ladies on the views.
Adam Curry: Do we still have
that clip? I wonder who
John C Dvorak: know it was I
think it was sunny Hostin who
said that. I'm going to be there
Navarro.
Adam Curry: I wonder if we have
that. I can't find it offhand.
Anyway. Now we have, oh, this is
another Jim, Becca Baylands.
balance balance. Well,
obviously, it's obvious what's
going on here.
Unknown: So we've got the
situation here, where speaker
Johnson is not somebody who has
seriousness of purpose. He
doesn't understand the stakes.
When you pull out 40,000 feet,
you see someone that is
essentially doing who is
bidding. It's
Adam Curry: doing potent work,
okay. He's doing Putin's
bidding. Yes, yes. These she has
a good term in here that we've
Unknown: got a situation here
where speaker Johnson is not
somebody who has seriousness of
purpose. He doesn't he
Adam Curry: doesn't have
seriousness of purpose, whatever
that means. i It's DC gobbly
gook. And then of course,
another Democrat. representative
from the great state of Texas,
Joaquin Castro,
Unknown: I want to speak quickly
to the Democrats in the Senate
and others who are considering
supporting this proposal. If you
do so, you will be surrendering
to right wing racism. There it
is. And more than that, you will
be enabling it.
Adam Curry: Yes. Racist. Oh, and
rolling it even Yes, racism. Now
this is this not I do have an
issue myself with the idea of
show me your papers. Because
then this has happened to me in
Texas. We discussed that many
years ago, when I drove from
California, when I fled
California to Texas, within 100
miles of the border this
checkpoints, show me your papers
was is not cool. I don't like
the idea. I think that's a bad
way to to solve this. You know,
obviously, the federal
government needs to not allow
people in anymore at these non
non approved crossings, it just
has to stop the laws are on the
books. Just stop, stop, stop. So
John C Dvorak: I don't
understand this. Show me your
papers and obviously didn't
work?
Adam Curry: Well, no, because,
well, it works to some degree.
But it was still. The catch and
release is the policy. That's
what's changed. It's the policy,
not the law. The law is no you
can't come in. And if you just
can't be if you don't have the
right paperwork. And by the way,
you also need all kinds of
vaccinations to emigrate to, or
at least proof of vaccinations
to immigrate to America, but I
know this process, but this
racism part. Ah, that's the one
that's catching fire. I don't
watch sports ball TV. But
Stephen A Smith, I believe he's
using ESPN guy. Yeah, yeah.
Well, of course, ESPN is where
you go to hear about politics.
Unknown: Greg Abbott, you ever
heard of him? He's the governor
for the state of Texas on
Monday, that governor Governor
Abbott signed a bill into law
that will allow the police to
arrest migrants who entered the
US illegally. This law which
takes effect in March allows any
Texas law enforcement officer to
arrest people who are suspected
of entering the country.
illegally. That's what we're
going to do to our Latino
brothers and sisters. It's
racist. Somebody needs to say it
so I'm gonna say it's a racist
as thing to do. suspicion.
Suspect suspected of entering
the country illegally, how can
you be suspected of entering the
country illegally? So you
chillin in downtown Dallas, or
Houston? You hanging out with a
bunch of folks, you're speaking
Spanish instead English. Your
clothes might not be a Tom Ford
suit or something. You might not
be wearing a Jordan sweat suit.
You might look a little poor and
impoverished, a bit heading
haggard, you're haphazard. Those
things might you might not look
the part. That's a suspicion.
They can literally labeled that
as suspicion to justify
arresting you not questioning
you. Not asking for an ID. They
literally can arrest you. What a
disgrace. And the thing, I love
this state from the standpoint
that it's got no state income
taxes. You got beautiful cities
like Dallas and Houston and
Austin, Texas. I'm looking
forward to being in the city
like that someday. And then I
see a governor like this doing
this kind of nonsense. It's a
damn disgrace. It really really
is.
Adam Curry: Calm down, calm
down. It was also quite racist.
John C Dvorak: Make this make
one thing clear, since you don't
watch sports ball. He's a
representative of the Walt
Disney Company.
Adam Curry: Well, that's ESPN
bspa Is is owned by Disney.
John C Dvorak: This very racy
Disney for giving us politics in
the middle of what we what we
care about, which is sports.
Adam Curry: He he's racist,
because it's Chinese. It's
Africans as a lot of it's not
just brown people coming across
the border, okay. But those days
are over. It is kind of over.
So, so they're there. Now, I
figured all of a sudden they hit
me. I'm like, so of course this
bill is going to be challenged.
But of course, that won't
happen. But I can see where they
can do the stash houses. Yeah,
that'll probably that'll
probably stay okay. But this is
all politics. And it both
parties are against you and me
going against Americans. Chuck
Schumer is like, yeah, we got to
do this. Yeah, we got to figure
this one out. With the minute
you get Lindsey Graham, who kick
this off saying no, I'm not
gonna until we get some border
stuff. We gotta get the border.
That was a that was a tip off
that something is up. So when I
see Chuck Schumer saying, Yeah,
we got to we got to do this. So
now instead of just saying,
adhere to the policy, we already
have stopped people from coming
in. But no, there's a bill.
There's a bill. And I don't know
if this is going to be the final
bill. But this is what Chuck
Schumer has been working on. I'm
going to read from some papers
that he has filed. He's even put
this in previous legislation.
And this is what they really
want. This is why both parties
want this somehow magically.
This will prohibit the Secretary
of Homeland Security from
processing applications for
registered provisional immigrant
status. This is the RPi until
the secretary submitted to
Congress the notice of
commencement of implementation
of the comprehensive southern
border security strategy, and
the southern border fencing
strategy. So here we go. The
comprehensive southern border
security strategy includes the
minimum technological
requirements specified, so
they're gonna do all kinds of
Get ready as little robots Yeah,
get ready for the money, money,
money, money, money, money. The
southern border fencing strategy
will include no fewer than 700
miles of pedestrian fencing.
Hello, wall. Thanks, Democrats
are fighting Trump on that. But
here's the one, a mandatory
employment verification system
to be used by all employers to
prevent unauthorized workers
from attaining us employment.
They've been trying this for
years, this is your universal
ID. This is everyone has to have
one. You can't work without your
papers. Without your Shami, your
official ID. This is what they
want both parties. In addition,
the mandatory exit data system,
another thing they've been
wanting for decades. We want to
know when you come in, we want
to know when you leave, we want
to stop you from leaving you
slaves. These people are
horrible. In addition to that
38,405 new full train full time
active duty US Border Patrol
agents, probably for more
processing. They don't care.
They want slaves to do to clean
your toilet. They want slaves to
look after your kids to look
after their own kids. They want
slaves to come in and vote
Democrat preferably but they'll
take Republicans will take it.
They want you to have papers
they want they are they are just
making a big deal a big show.
And they're abusing these these
people who had been told to come
on to America. It's great. And
and they've done the same thing
in Europe. This thing, this is a
global issue. It's and by the
way, it's called the migration
replacement strategy. It was
United Nations strategy we you
can find it the document in the
show notes implemented in 2000.
written up everyone's like,
Okay, this is great. Replacing
people in Western countries,
with people from other
countries. This has always been
the idea always been the
strategy and the EU oil oh,
we're all against it. Yeah, this
is no good. But now, now we have
a new deal for the European
Union.
Unknown: The content of this
compromise today paves the way
for a really a reinforcement of
the controls at the borders,
which means that even families
comprising children could be put
into closed centers in order for
their asylum requests to be
processed. So far, so good. The
other thing is that will now be
a eu wide asylum procedure,
putting aside all the national
asylum laws, which are taking in
which are in effect today. The
other thing is also that there
will be and that is the real
stepping stone of this
agreement. There will be a
common approach on the
solidarity in case of a massive
influx of migrants of
solidarity,
Adam Curry: just in case just in
case. There's a massive influx
of migrants on the off chance
that might happen. They're
planning this on
Unknown: the solidarity in case
of a massive influx of migrants,
there will be compulsory
solidarity, meaning that EU
member states even those which
have no access to an external
border of the EU will have
either to taking asylum seekers
have to provide with a financial
contribution. financial
agreement has been reached
within this compromise. So
Adam Curry: you will take
migrants every single country in
the EU doesn't matter when they
come in. We are solidarity now
all you got to pay wages to give
a pay. This is crazy. The whole
world has gone nuts. And that
Unknown: is a main point here.
The point being obviously this
is a trade in a trade off. The
other point being that the
external borders are going to be
heavily reinforced.
Adam Curry: So it's it's come on
in everybody. Come on over,
you'll be able to find lots of
countries where you will be
placed. This is the elites they
don't care.
John C Dvorak: The safe mobility
they're not doing this in Asia
by any means. No, even though
they could because China's
having a population issue with
the aging public. So what do
they hope to accomplish? What's
what is the what is the endgame
here? Okay, just to replace all
whities with everything under
the sun and then enslave them
because the I guess the what the
the Texas hill country folk
won't be rode do what they're
told. We
Adam Curry: go back to the
former New York banker. Every
single person they can add, they
can print more money, they want
to print more money, they want
universal basic income. And yes,
they want obedient workers
obedient workers. Of course,
keep the cost down of
everything, keep people
obedient, keep them in limbo for
as long as possible. And, and we
beat China as long as we've
we've already we've already
castrated our children. We've
scared everybody with climate
change. We have to keep growing.
So we might as well get someone
in the United Nations Office of
immigration migration has a safe
mobility initiative. And they
will help you they and you can
sign right up on the website. We
have Cubans Haitians,
Venezuelans in Colombia if you
if you want to travel safely and
lawfully to the United States,
we have a program for that
Nicaraguan Venezuelan nationals
in Costa Rica. If you got there
before June 12. We can help you
move safely into the United
States of Costa Rica. Then we
have Cubans Haitians
Nicaraguans, Venezuelans
Colombians in Ecuador on or
before October 18 2023. No
problem we'll bring you in
Guatemala nationals if you're in
Guatemala, we can help you
travel safely and lawfully to
the United States. These are our
own people against us. Yeah, and
I know it sounds
counterintuitive, but they're
they just see us all as pawns
peons you know as numbers. So
yes, that's the idea.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
enlightening report. Lift a for
Christmas spirit, your Christmas
spirit must be flying high.
Adam Curry: So along with this,
of course, we have to my
Christmas spirit is is very
high. Along with this comes, you
know, the obvious we have to
make everything about the the
far right. This is this, this
whole thing is very irksome. The
far right of everything is the
far right. And me see the news
agents. So this was the report
in in the UK, the news ages, I'd
like this podcast. These are
very well established, very well
known mainstream journalists.
And they do their own podcast
very popular. What's the name of
it? The news agents. We've
talked about it before. The news
agency is huge, very popular
podcast. And they're the people
who have interviewed all the
heads of state and to do kind of
like a newsroom type thing. So
now here it is. The news agents
investigate the rise of the far
right.
Unknown: News agents
investigates.
My comments no surprise for the
far right have won the elections
in Italy. The
Prime Minister of Hungary Viktor
Orban has secured a fourth
consecutive landslide election
victory. Europe's
nationalist wave has arrived in
Spain.
Marine LePen has perhaps never
been as close to power. The
latest polls indicate
this year's poll has been shaken
up by a surge in popularity of
the Euro skeptic and for right
Sweden and democratic movement.
Something is stirring across
Europe during tonic change to
our politics to where the
balance of our politics sits.
From the Netherlands to Italy to
France to Germany to Ireland,
the UK, Hungary beyond radical
Both elements of the right even
far right once consigned to the
fringes of political life, our
growing growing number in
Parliament's in power, we are
not just for power, the sort of
power you get from winning
elections, though they're
winning plenty of those. It's
the power to shape how we think
the power to channel the online
world, the power to move the
center of political debate, to
the point where they don't even
seem extreme anymore, that they
become normal or mainstream when
they're neither. On this episode
of the news agents investigate
the rise of the far right, the
collapse of the center. Why
liberal democracy is under
siege. It's
Adam Curry: under siege. How
about this? How about was this a
John C Dvorak: good podcast? It
sounds like a melodramatic piece
of crap. Well,
Adam Curry: depends on who's
listening to it. Yeah. But these
this is the establishment that's
what you're hearing the
establishment is is incensed
that out they outraged we can't
believe the far right is, you
know, like normal people who are
like, Hey, we're sick of this
crap. We're sick of it. We're
sick of it. We don't want it
anymore. We're sick of all of
you. And then you get the fringe
far, right? Yeah. Now, they'll
fight it every single step of
the way. Of course, there's just
it's, it's these
John C Dvorak: these is what was
once called useful idiots.
During the communist era,
they're still out there doing
the bidding of people that whose
whose best interest they're not
in the best interest of the
people actually doing these
sorts of reporting. In other
words, you know, you're selling
yourself out. Yeah, for all
practical purposes with some of
this bull crap. And if Okay,
Adam Curry: and of course, when
it comes to immigration, we we
can't leave out former President
Trump. Because remember, he is
Hitler. Because because it
worked so well in 2015, calling
him Hitler that really stopped
people from voting for him. So
let's do it again. Now, we do
have a little twist, because
President Trump is now
explaining he splaining what
he's meant by poisoning of the
blood. He's changed it to point
poisoning the country. But I
mean, come on people, former
Unknown: President Trump
continues to use fascist
language, that dehumanizes
immigrants. Here's what he said
last night in Iowa.
We have no idea who any of them
are. They come from Africa. They
come from Asia. They come from
South America. And it's true
that destroying the blood of our
country, that's what they're
doing. They're destroying our
country. They don't like it when
I said that. And I never read
minecon they sit in a much
different way. Now they're
coming from all over the world,
people all over the world. We
have no idea. They could be
healthy, they could be very
unhealthy. They could bring in
disease that's going to catch on
in our country, but they do
bring in crime. But they have
him coming from all over the
world. And they're destroying
the blood of our country that
destroying the fabric of our
country. And we're gonna have to
get him out.
Adam Curry: He's a fascist,
fascist language, which
according to Jake Tapper is
doing something completely
different. What else works so
well in 20 with throughout his
entire presidency, was another
thing that the media did.
Russia. Was it Russia? I think
it was Russia. Let's see if we
can be
John C Dvorak: Russia's
involved. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: think Hello.
Unknown: Listen to this. Hello.
I'm Jake Tapper in Washington,
where the state of our union is
frankly, stunned. Stop watching
the leading Republican
presidential candidate Donald
Trump. quote one of our nation's
foremost adversaries Oh, no,
remember Putin as a sort of
character witness while on the
stock in New Hampshire last
Adam Curry: night. Oh, no.
Unknown: of Russia says that
Biden's and this is a quote
politically motivated
persecution of his political
rival is very good for Russia
because it shows the rottenness
of the American political
system, which cannot pretend to
teach others about democracy.
One might think such a point
need not be made. But what?
Adam Curry: What Jake Tapper,
okay, he's right, but you don't
have to say it out loud.
Unknown: Wow. One might think
such a point need not be made.
But, but Lattimer Putin, a
former KGB official. Besides
with American He's a war
criminal adversaries both
rhetorically and with arms, and
who right now has at least two
Americans Evan Grishko. Butch
and Paul Whelan unjustly
detained. Vladimir Putin is not
a credible source of information
about American democracy know
much less American
jurisprudence. Vladimir Putin
seeks to undermined the United
States and its allies, whether
in Europe or Asia or the Middle
East. He's undermining. Despite
this or maybe by now because of
it, I can no longer tell. Mr.
Trump stands poised to do very
well in the Republican Iowa
caucuses on January 15. In less
than a month he has only
expanded his lead
Adam Curry: go unless unless he
gets kicked off of the ballot in
Colorado. This This really makes
us look good internationally.
This is good. This thing people
in in Colorado Are you Are you
not a little mad about this?
John C Dvorak: Hey there bunch
of Democrats Colorado's
ridiculously blue, I have a mini
cut of the Colorado some some
people talking heads discussing
this.
Unknown: This is not a crazy
thing for democracy to do. It's
very much like the reasoning of
the conservative legal
community.
The conservatives on the Supreme
Court who usually go on and on
and on about states rights are
hypocrites. He was an enemy of
the Constitution, simply a plain
reading of the US Constitution.
This is not partisan. This is
about applying historic
principles. What do you say
to the to the Republican
candidates argument that
this should be the voters should
have the say and
not the courts?
Adam Curry: Why are you standing
with Confederate veterans
Unknown: betrayed this country?
Adam Curry: Oh, that's great.
Okay, I got a couple of clips
here. This is MSNBC filed
Unknown: from the historic
Colorado Supreme Court ruling
continues this morning. One day
after the panel of judges there
ruled that Donald Trump was
disqualified from the state's
2024 primary ballot because of
his role in the January 6 attack
on the Capitol. President Biden
made his first remarks about the
decision in the lock yesterday.
The President initially refused
to comment. But he did say this
when asked if Trump supported an
insurrection?
Well, I think it's self evident
whether the fortune five will
have to coordinate that
decision, but he certainly
supported insurrection. And no
question about zero seems to be
doubling down on anyway. I've
got to go through this.
Adam Curry: Anyway, I gotta go
see if I can walk up the steps
from our constitutional lawyer
technical analysis, which is
always handy to have so you can
look smarter the water cooler.
The Colorado Supreme Court has
stayed its decision ie put it on
ice, because it knows Trump will
seek cert to your certiorari,
certiorari, which I think is
something from Star Trek. The
State last through January
4 2024. But it automatically
extends if Trump files a cert
petition, which he said he will
do. Once the petition is on
file. It remains in place until
the Supreme Court of the US
either denies the cert or
accepts the case and rules on
the merits. Our constitutional
lawyer says I think Trump is
likely to persuade four justices
to grant cert. But who knows if
he does, then the state will
remain in place as long as the
case remains pending. Meanwhile,
the Colorado Secretary of State
must keep Trump on the primary
ballot. The primary happens
March 5 2024. So if Trump can
run the clock out for two and a
half months, and if the Supreme
Court of the US grants assert,
which seems likely he can render
the whole thing moot, the
Colorado Supreme Court justices
likely foresaw this and just
wanted to get their thoughts on
paper. So again, performative
nothing to worry about nothing
to see here. But of course, we
have New York trying to do this
a couple other states. These
people are stupid. Do they think
that this will not only make
people more for Trump?
John C Dvorak: They don't
understand the mechanism. This
Adam Curry: they certainly don't
they think, but this is kind of
the arrogance of the elites in
our country. But you know, we
know how to do the legal system.
People in America are sick and
tired of the legal system.
They're sick and tired of the
IRS. They're sick and tired of
being badgered sick and tired of
everything and then you just got
to get this guy back in office.
And then trust me the
Republicans are going to cheat
like crazy this election they're
gonna cheat cheat cheat like
everyone else tell everybody
John C Dvorak: the both sides
are gonna cheat. Of course they
change who's the better cheater
I still think is the Democrats.
I think they're more competent
at it they have more machinery
they had the machine it was
called a machine machine you're
talking about the machine in
Chicago for example always gets
Democrats in it says the machine
is literally a machine is
mechanism that works to get
these votes into the into play
Adam Curry: here is that I have
two clips here. an expert's an
American expert explains the
14th amendment on France 24. The
14th
Unknown: amendment was passed in
the wake of the Civil War, which
as a Everybody, more or less
nose was fought between the
states in the war succession.
It's literally called in the
French translation of it,
because half the country, more
or less the southern states
wanted to secede from the Union,
because they objected to notably
the institution of slavery being
banned at the federal level. So
after that, when the cut when
the North one in the country was
reunified, the South was
considered traitorous. They were
insurrectionists. I mean, these
very people that were now
seeking to come back into public
office, were had had been
literally killing Union soldiers
and civilians during the war.
And they had been proclaiming
that there should no longer be a
United States, at least that
they wanted to be part of in the
way that was envisioned in the
constitution. So this was a huge
issue. And the Congress led the
efforts to pass a constitutional
amendment, the 14th Amendment,
which has several sections, but
the one we're talking about
here, section three notably
says, Look, if you have this,
you know, that's what it says,
look into the one we're talking
about here. Section three
notably says, Look, if you have
previously been an official, in
the United States government and
sworn an oath to uphold the
Constitution, and then violated
that constitution, you cannot
return to government. So in
other words, Jefferson Davis,
for example, who was the
president of the Confederacy,
had he had it in his mind, of
course, at the time, that would
have been considered crazy, but
say he had taken it in his head
to become president united
states and run against Lincoln
or Ulysses S Grant or whoever,
he would have been banned by
this provision. And in fact,
several people running for
Congress were banned by it. So
this is what we're talking
about. This is the provision of
the Constitution that's at issue
here.
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry,
actually, actually slightly
wrong. Of course, most analysis
course it's slightly wrong,
which is that you can run as the
President's not not,
Adam Curry: he's not mentioned
the President is not mentioned.
And so as I say, sort
John C Dvorak: of what could
happen, you know, Jefferson
Davis, or whoever it was, could
could actually run for
presidency
Adam Curry: here. I have one
more. This is an analysis from
Mike Davis. He is from the
Article Three project, which who
knew, who knew, all of a sudden
there's an art and he's on the
Steve Bannon war room, so says
enough,
Unknown: and they just decreed
that that President Trump
somehow committed an
insurrection. And so therefore,
they're gonna throw him off the
ballot. And that is not what the
controlling case law says. It's
very clear if you want to
disqualify an officer of the
United States, based upon
insurrection or rebellion, you
have to charge him under the
federal criminal statute for
insurrection or rebellion passed
pursuant to section three of the
14th Amendment back in 1869. You
have to have a grand jury indict
a jury unanimously convicts with
evidence beyond a reasonable
doubt find guilty with evidence
beyond the reasonable doubt. The
judge has to convict and that
conviction has to be upheld on
appeal. That is the only way you
can disqualify under section
three of the 14th Amendment. The
Supreme Court of the United
States needs to not take Jack
Smith cert before judgment case,
which is just complete nonsense.
And they need to save room on
their dockets. For this Colorado
Supreme Court case.
Adam Curry: It's all bull crap.
So it's totally stupid. None of
this will get through another.
So
John C Dvorak: going, going back
to your, your wonderment as to
what are these people? Are they
fooling themselves to think that
this isn't going to backfire? I
want to play I have very short
like 17 second clip, which might
give you some indication of
where these people are at this
is airy Melber Gah,
Adam Curry: Ari Ari, Barry
Silbert the newest model who
quotes Hip Hop lyrics. And so
John C Dvorak: just see if you
can catch the little little
indicator within this very
short. This is just a clip of a
clip, just saving cash the
indicator in here that these
people are delusional, vacant,
Unknown: if past is prologue,
then Kevin McCarthy's very
recent past shows you both where
the Republican Party is headed
and many people think
potentially into a wall if it
has no adjustment process for
what remains a very unpopular
and indicted former president.
Adam Curry: Well, I have no idea
what he just said.
John C Dvorak: He's just yakking
away about somebody but he's,
but he says he's talking about
the Republican Party's
direction. And he says they're
hitting a wall because they're
they're backing a very unpopular
listen to it again. He says a
very unpopular former president
vacant
Unknown: if past is prologue.
Then Kevin McCarthy's very
recent past shows you both were
the Republic One party is headed
and many people think,
potentially into a wall if it
has no adjustment process for
what remains a very unpopular
and indicted former president.
Adam Curry: And indicted you
forgot to mention that and that
in indicted, yes, TWICE, TWICE
impeached, he's usually he
missed a whole bunch of stuff.
But
John C Dvorak: he was it's but
it's just as delusional vision
of the world. That is that the
entire crew at MSNBC, CNN and,
and a lot of the news media that
print media in particular,
they're all this way. And
they're now they're coming out
of the woodwork. I don't, I
could probably I should have
gotten some clips of this. But
they had a classic PBS newshour
situation where there were the
news media had the editor of The
Atlantic and then to
counterbalance him they had New
York College in New York. I
can't remember the name of this
journal erosion was Jay Rosen,
Jay Rosen, and this guy, there's
no balance whatsoever, no other
side there. And they're both
advocating, which I've been
seeing tons of on social media,
all these journalists saying
it's time we we can't be
objective anymore. Because our
democracy is at risk. We must
stop this nonsense of
objectivity when no democracy is
at risk. And we must, we must
express our opinion. We talked
about this in the last show a
little bit. And this has gotten
out of control, because these
people are completely insane.
Adam Curry: And that's it. They
they come from a place which was
not that long ago, where and I
would say this is part of the
reason for the anger with Elon
Musk. They come from a place
where they controlled the
message. And they they truly
that journalist in particular,
they felt they were in control.
We determined what you know,
we're New York Times that you
can see the arrogance of of the
reporters and what's that?
What's that dipshits name?
Lorenz Taylor Lorenz, you know,
the minute someone got on her
face, she starts crying. Now,
because we are in control of the
message you we know better, we
know better. We're the elites.
And they've promised
John C Dvorak: they're not the
elites, to journalists of this
country or anything, but the
elites, they're just their pass
through. useful idiots pass
through stooges.
Adam Curry: stooges pass through
stooges. Yeah, so so. And, but
of course, when everything's out
of control, we know everything's
out of control. There's, there's
no one's in charge anymore. It's
every man for himself on x.
Everybody's fighting and yelling
and everyone knows better and
just there because everyone
thinks oh, you know, if if Trump
becomes president, that goes
with democracy and the other
side if Trump becomes president,
he'll fix everything. Yeah.
Dream on. Yeah. Dream on your
will be of course, no, of course
not. And then as a as the big
meme, the big meme, everybody
hears the big meme. Oh, yeah.
You know what? They're all
afraid. We may
Unknown: soon learn the
identities of more people
connected to Jeffrey Epstein and
more than 150 names, which were
previously withheld. They
include witnesses and victims in
the civil case against Carlene
Maxwell, who is currently
serving 20 years in prison for
being Epstein's accomplice in
sex trafficking. The list also
includes some of Epstein's
former employees. Epstein, a
wealthy and well connected
financier was indicted in 2019.
For a scheme of involving
underage girls. He later took
his own life in jail before he
could be tried. I wonder
how many men Michelle was
sitting at home right now going
overload? And women Yeah, and
women to women as well. It's a
terrible story.
Adam Curry: Now that was
interesting. That was
interesting that she threw in
the women thing this is Gail.
You know, because we're, we can
probably expect Oprah to be on
this list if anything ever gets
published if if if if the as
Oprah was was hanging out with
Jeffrey Epstein, too. And then
so this this colleague throws in
and women, Gail, then women just
so you know. What, what is this?
What is this list of clients
what does that mean? client
doesn't
John C Dvorak: mean anything up
I don't know why they don't
publish the list. Just let let
let it hit the fan. And so what
it doesn't prove anything. I
mean, this like the Yeah, and I
I'm not one here too. We got to
Bill Gates doesn't need my help
to defend himself. But this
latest thing always was there's
a picture of him with some am
woman. And so I went back and I
said picture with it. Sorry,
there was actually an article.
In a Russian I think that's
buttoning, but one of the
Russian magazines with Bill
Gates with a bunch of different
women, many of them Epstein,
women, but it's just like, I
didn't want to say that he did
this or that. And I suspect he
probably had some fun with a
couple of them. But you can't
prove anything. If you're a
celebrity at that. Like if
you're a multi billionaire, one
of the richest people in the
world, people are gonna want to
have their picture taken with
you. Yes. Lots of them. You
could there's probably 1000s of
people that Bill couldn't
identify in a million years.
Always cozied up next to him.
Women, men, ladies, girls,
everything in between
Adam Curry: knowing why you know
what it shows above all,
particularly this airplane and
when I hear RFK Jr. Like, yeah,
you know, my wife at the time
thing was Mary. She was friends
with Jess lane. And we have
these people they're like, hey,
oh, you need a ride. Just take
my jet. When have you gotten
that offer? was last time
someone said to you Hey, John.
Oh, you need to go visit just
grab my jet no problem. They're
in a club that we are very far
from
John C Dvorak: I know people in
that club and I don't know that
they do that.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, there's
there's courtesies like because
jets are I
John C Dvorak: think at the high
end if you have a jet and I have
a jet then you swap each other's
jets I get it's like the people
who go friend of mine was is
involved with these kind of
circles where people Oh, come on
over. Come to the mansion out
the Hamptons. We got a room for
you can stay for a month.
Adam Curry: I'll send the jet.
John C Dvorak: Jet. Now that's a
little Okay. Well, we were
definitely not in that category.
No,
Adam Curry: we're not. We're not
in the mansion state dimension
category either. No,
John C Dvorak: no, you want to
stay at the house. Maybe for a
day. Can't you find a hotel?
Something new? You
Adam Curry: wouldn't even let me
see your office when I came
John C Dvorak: to visit? The
office is off limits limits.
Yeah, so that's kind of when
anyone putting a bug in this
office. That's the reason
Adam Curry: that's me. Oh, yeah.
But you don't trust me your
partner for 16 years? Yeah,
John C Dvorak: you gotta get
your line somewhere. Meanwhile,
Adam Curry: no one talks about
the FDIC parties. You've been
following that story, which won,
that the FDIC under leadership
of Chairman Greenberg, that this
does go back a couple of years.
John C Dvorak: But he talked
about FDIC price some time ago.
Adam Curry: Well, new reports of
misconduct. In 2020, the
agency's inspector general
published a report of sexual
harassment that revealed that at
least 191 FDIC employees
experienced sexual harassment
between January of 2015 and
April of 2019. This included let
me see I have some of these
here. They had parties and
people be groping each other.
No, go to the party. You can't
but it's the FDIC. This is a
government
John C Dvorak: makes no sense.
It was like you know, Nepal
autonomous operation which had a
bunch of sexual harassment for
the women against men. Yeah. And
against the other women. Yeah,
yeah.
Adam Curry: We're just, well,
these
John C Dvorak: people are bored.
Let's face it. Now that this
already is invite parties invite
this sort of behavior. I hate to
tell you.
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, x x is
under Investec. subrogation.
Elon
Unknown: Musk's social media
platform x the former Twitter is
now under investigation by the
European Union. The EU says it's
focused on whether the company
has done enough to stop the
spread of illegal content
illegal first and such
investigation under new
regulations aimed at hate speech
and misinformation. Yes,
Adam Curry: that Europe is going
well everybody the hate speech
and misinformation is on deck in
Europe. I gotta get my daughter
out of there. I'm gonna have to
talk to her about this.
John C Dvorak: She really does
she enjoy living in Rotterdam
it's a it's a you know a nice
country beautiful place you mean
where
Adam Curry: the where they had
terrorists. They arrested ready
to kill Jews that that
Rotterdam.
John C Dvorak: You have terror
terrorists arrested ready to
kill Jews in this country?
Adam Curry: Well, there you go.
John C Dvorak: Don't move to New
York, whatever you do.
Adam Curry: We should probably
talk about that for a second
here tonight.
Unknown: The Israeli military
says the three hostages were
mistakenly killed by Israeli
forces had escaped from Hamas
five days earlier. After Israeli
soldiers killed their captors in
a firefight with Molly Donald's
the army says they've since
analyzed Camera on a military
dog at the scene. recorded the
hostage dogs.
Adam Curry: They had a camera on
a military dog
John C Dvorak: yeah if I'm
working in the field and I gotta
have a camera on me I say what?
Where's the dog? Let's put the
camera on the dog. I don't need
to have this camera on me here
Phoebe, you go check it out a
camera
Unknown: on a military dog at
the scene. The hostages voices.
They were later mistakenly shot
by Israeli soldiers while
holding a white flag. Their
deaths increasing the pressure
in Israel to pause the fighting
and strike a deal to get the
rest of the hostages out the
President today. Well,
fortunately, there's no
expectation at this point. But
we are pushing Secretary of
State Tony Blinken today blaming
Hamas I hear
virtually no one's saying
demanding from us that it stop
hiding behind civilians. That it
lay down his arms. That is
surrender. Yeah, man is over
tomorrow. No, if a moss does
that,
Mr. Prime Minister Netanyahu
vowing to continue the war until
Hamas is eliminated. Israel is
now allowing aid into Gaza
through a second crossing. But
the US and aid groups say it's
not nearly enough. I'm
Adam Curry: going to give
everybody the sad truth of
what's happening here. But all
this talk about pause and
ceasefire and Hamas has to say,
No, Israel, the IDF, they're
going to rub allies, the entire
Gaza, all of it. And when
they're done with that they're
going to go and rub allies in
the North for Hezbollah, they're
not stopping. All of this is
just just fodder to keep
everybody talking and hoping and
walking around with flags. But
they're going it's over. They
are not going to stop. I have
lots of acquaintances and
friends in Israel, the ear, the
parents of those of those
basically be young young men who
were killed. They're out there
saying, you know, it's horrible,
but we don't blame the IDF. We
understand what happened. And
then you can come to my house
and I'll give you dinner at any
point. The people are so fed up
with this. They want they want
what Netanyahu is doing. They
want it. It's not going to stop
but there's
John C Dvorak: a lot of
protesting going on in Israel.
So I think there's a divided
population as to some want it
some don't go a political
Adam Curry: protests. Yeah,
against Netanyahu. Yeah. Yeah.
Well,
John C Dvorak: well, let's go to
that brings us as we're
discussing this area, I do want
to discuss a little bit about
the Houthis.
Adam Curry: Yes, yeah, this is
this is heating up. I'm like, so
there's no better
John C Dvorak: and I have my
certain complaints of course.
Yes, obviously. So I do have a
three by three. Oh, you want to
do that first? Yeah, right off
the bat.
Unknown: And now it's time for a
three by three. Experiment
Adam Curry: by Jesse comparing
stories from the the scenes. The
never ending, right? He's got
the stories, the headlines, the
big three networks. This is
where we break it down. We see
what the script is and we find
out what is bold and what is
more bully. Here we go with a
three by three.
John C Dvorak: You know, the
funny thing is you can really
see the script in this group of
three because it's as if they're
in the same newsroom. The
structure of the three stories
is almost identical and makes no
sense. And let's start with
Richard Engel at NBC. The cargo
Unknown: giant Maersk joined BP
in halting traffic through the
Red Sea in response to attacks
by the Iranian backed Yemeni
militia, known as the Houthi was
hijacked and fired on several
ships. Defense Secretary Lloyd
Austin in Bahrain today, home of
the US Fifth Fleet announced the
formation of a 10 nation
coalition to defend the Red Sea.
But the Houthis vowed to keep
attacking ships until Israel
ends its blockade of Gaza. The
showdown sending oil prices up
again today, while the
Palestinian Islamic Jihad
tonight put out a video of two
Israeli men it's holding
hostage. Yesterday, Hamas
released a video of three
elderly hostages taken under
duress. the Gaza Strip is at a
breaking point as Israel attacks
Hamas, a group say 2.3 million
Palestinians are paying an
unbearable price. The World
Health Organization today
described the situation in Gaza
as hospitals as beyond belief
and unconscionable.
Richard, what do we know about
where the ceasefire talks down
right now? They
are fragile Lester, but
advancing with Qatar reporting
progress and multiple ports that
they'll continue tomorrow in
Egypt.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so here's
the structure we have the
Houthi, stopping the attacking
and just attacking and then
screwing up the red sea
transport. And then for some
reason, unknown to me, they
jumped to the hostages, huh? And
then they finish the story with
the discussion of this a
mishmash report. And in there
somewhere there was the Bahrain,
I didn't realize that we kept
our ships there in Bahrain. So
that's a little point that will
show up in another report. So
let's go to let's move on to ABC
with I'd say the report from the
same newsroom tonight.
Unknown: We're also following
the new attacks are rotting and
backed militants taking aim yet
again. On commercial ships in
the Red Sea. It comes just hours
after the US announced it was
now leading an international
naval task force with several
nations. Tonight,
Iran backed Houthi rebels in
Yemen, to more attacks on
commercial ships in the Red Sea.
Just as the US announced a naval
task force to counter the threat
the US joining nine countries to
escort vessels passing through
the crucial trade route after
major companies including oil
giant BP paused operations.
Bottom line is these attacks
have to stop. They need to stop.
They're unacceptable. The United
States our allies and our
partners will do what we have to
do to counter these threats and
to protect these ships. But the
Houthi is vowing further attacks
in retaliation for Israel's war
in Gaza. And David another
hostage video release tonight
these images showing Gaddy Moses
and Elijah Cassia, who were
kidnapped on October 7, and
tonight a Prime Minister
Netanyahu met with hostage
families saying their release is
his highest mission.
John C Dvorak: So there we go.
Again, the same interesting
report goes from the Houthis to
Oh, why did you stop shooting at
us? Two hostages. So okay,
Adam Curry: whatever this is
meant to meant to focus you on
the on, like, well,
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
to be honest about it. So
unfocused itself I don't say I
can make anyone focus on
anything. So here we go to CBS
with another one and they're
always a little bit of always
give a little more twist, they
got a little more information
than the other networks.
Unknown: Some of the world's
biggest shipping and oil
companies are now rerouting
their vessels away from the Red
Sea after brazen attacks like
this one by Iranian backed
Houthi rebels. A dozen ships
attacked in just the past month
the Navy destroyer USS Carney
has been shooting down drones
and missiles launched from
Houthi controlled territory in
Yemen in support of Palestinians
in the Gaza war. 10 to 15% of
global trade normally passes
through worth an estimated $1
trillion. Fearing Houthi
attacks, ships are turning off
transponders hiring armed guards
and several companies are
sailing around Africa a pain
consumers will feel
we've launched Operation
prosperity guardian
in the region defense secretary
Lloyd
Adam Curry: who makes up these
code names this is a dumb one
prosperity guardian. Call us
call us people
Unknown: will fix you up tumors
will feel
we've launched Operation
prosperity guardian
Adam Curry: can we come up with
a better name John. But anything
but this like hell to the
Houthis no Hellfire on Houthi is
anything but prosperity Guardian
rumors will feel
Unknown: we've launched
Operation prosperity guardian.
In the region, Defense Secretary
Lloyd Austin announced a new
task force to try to stop Houthi
attacks as a 10. Country
military alliance with the
intent to grow. So far, the only
country from the Middle East to
sign on is the tiny nation of
Bahrain, in Gaza, Israel's
bombardment continues with
nearly 20,000 people now killed
says Gaza, Hamas run health
ministry. And just hours ago,
militants in Gaza released two
more videos of hostages. And
this is the second such release.
That comes as leaders from both
Israel and Hamas are signaling
they are open to a new pause.
And a new hostage really steel.
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: same exact
structures, all three stories as
if they're all working together.
So somebody is somebody, there's
an overlord telling you how to
do these things, obviously, and
they're doing a poor job. I
mean, the media is corrupt. And
so you have and there's the
mention of Bahrain, as the which
was where we keep our ships. So
yeah, they're gonna join in
because we give a lot of money
to the post our Navy. So they're
on board. But here's a couple of
things that crop up this show.
By the way, I have one more clip
date. Here's what shows up. In
my mind. One, Bahrain is the
only one who joins in with this
with a kind of a program to stop
the Houthis. What about Saudi
Arabia? They're at war with the
Houthis. Why are they in on
this? Simple question. So no,
no, we're not. No, we're not.
No, no. The second thing is,
again, I'll say it again. I said
on every show, we have
satellites, there's no clouds
over over Yemen. Did we have
satellites right over showing
exactly where those missiles are
coming from we could bomb the
crap out of those sites and
ended it that because we're
bombing Somalia as we speak well
but
Adam Curry: how about this maybe
you want the oil price to go up
a little bit
John C Dvorak: you think that
might be part of it I'm have a
feeling they oil prices go up
yeah because hasn't gone up for
any other reason so there's
something you know there might
be something that that there's
something there there allow in
other words the point they're
allowing this this is being
allowed. There's no way if they
didn't want it to happen that
they would just not bomb the
crap out of
Adam Curry: the bomb everybody
else. Yeah, we know but no, not
these guys. There's
John C Dvorak: two things they
can do. One one they're allowing
it to is giving some of the
destroyers some of our ships
target practice so we can see
what it takes to shoot down
drones. Get one
Adam Curry: of the trolls had a
good point. Get the oil price
all jacked up. Then have Joe
come out and mumble something
and then you know let it go
down.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's gonna
go down anyway. Yeah, Joe's
gonna do it.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Well, no,
he's not but it's all theory.
The
John C Dvorak: idea is you
mumble something mumble
something and then it then the
the social media goes nuts.
Joe's saved us. So I do have one
report that kind of is probably
more valuable than those three,
put together get reports on
three exact same network. This
is the Houthi threat. This is a
NTD
Unknown: the leader of the
Yemeni Houthis vows to retaliate
if Washington takes aim at
Yemen. This is as the US is
spearheading a multinational
coalition to interrupt Houthi
attacks against cargo ships
passing through the Red Sea. So,
before any American targeting
our country will be targeted by
us and we will make American
battleships interests and
navigation a target for our
missiles, drones and military
operations. The
Iran backed group has been
escalating missile strikes
against vessels sailing through
the Red Sea in an attempt to
show support for Hamas
terrorists amid the Israel Hamas
war. Those strikes are forcing
ships to either cancel transit
or reroute to Africa, which is
causing gas and shipping prices
to rise. The US love security
pact joined by nine other
countries plans to ramp up
patrol in the Red Sea to deter
and respond to future Houthi
attacks.
Adam Curry: To all of these
reports include the one name
which I've been tracking, which
is Iran or Iran. And so what I'm
most curious about is is is this
going to be the precursor do is
this excuse me time to go on bom
bom bom bom bom Moran. And I can
tell you no and and the reason I
know is because General Frank
McKenzie came on the PBS news
hour to discuss the Red Sea
crisis.
Unknown: We return now to the
conflict in the Middle East and
rising tensions in the Red Sea.
We're about 12% of the world's
global trade passes through and
where Houthi militias in Yemen
have been attacking ships. The
Houthi say their attacks are in
support of the Palestinians.
Yesterday, US Defense Secretary
Lloyd Austin announced a new
multinational effort to protect
ships in the region. But how
will that work? For that we turn
to former commander of US forces
in the Middle East, retired
General Frank McKenzie. He's now
the executive director of the
global and national security
Institute at the University of
South Florida.
Adam Curry: Yeah, beautiful. We
got a spokes hole, everybody. So
explain who are these Houthis
help
Unknown: our audience understand
first who are the Houthis? And
why exactly are they attacking
commercial ships.
The Houthis are a proxy of Iran.
And they've seized governmental
control and a coup in Yemen
several years ago. They've been
largely responsible for the mass
starvation in the country. And
with Iran, they pursue a policy
for the destruction of Israel.
They're not completely under the
direct control of Iran. But Iran
provides their equipment
provides the resourcing and all
their supplies, but they're not
directly at the beck and call of
ran in this matter. The Houthis
have wanted to attack Israel,
it's very hard for them to
arrange Israel proper. So
they've settled on instead,
trying to cut off communication
of maritime shipping in the in
the Bab el Mandeb area down at
the southern end of the Red Sea.
So
Adam Curry: the more I hear
these people talk about the
Houthis, the more I think they
work for us. I mean, this this,
this whole thing stinks to high
hell, let's look let's talk
about the task force.
Unknown: And as we mentioned,
the US announced this creation
of this Multinational Task Force
to Protect commercial traffic
through the Red Sea. Why is
Adam Curry: it called a task
force? The fact that they call
it a task force is like blame.
Now how about attack force or
defense force? Defense Force
would be better anything but
Task Force? That's something the
marketing department does in
your company. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: task force we
attack for
Unknown: how exactly will that
work and in your estimation will
it be enough to deter future
attacks,
the ships will be important, we
will provide ships, our friends
and partners will provide ships
and those warships that will be
out there, shepherding the
merchant vessels, three will be
very important. But what will be
equally important will be the
intelligence architecture that
we put over the Bab el Mandeb.
You need to see what's going on.
You do that through man patrol
aircraft, unmanned aircraft,
drones, all kinds of other
intelligence gathering systems
to actually see what the Houthis
are up to money, money, money,
money. And this also has another
effect. And we know for many
years of dealing with Iran, they
don't like to be observed. It
can have been a tearing effect
in 2019. Our heavy use of ISR
intelligence, surveillance and
reconnaissance assets around the
Strait of Hormuz prevented the
Iranians from carrying out
nefarious attacks may or may not
be enough with the Houthi they
tend to be very aggressive. I
think at some point we're
probably going to have to
consider that
John C Dvorak: they've been at
war for I don't know what is it
10 years now Saudi Arabia,
they're all this bull crap this.
You're right. This is a crock of
crap from the get go. And
they're doing this. And by the
way, their dough is going to
talk about this guy had a clip
of that I don't didn't bring it
along, which is the price of
insurance for the ships going
through the Red Sea has gone up
tenfold. Yeah, to the point
where this never mentioned to
the point where it's actually
still super expensive to drive
all the way around the African
tip, but cheaper to do that and
pay for the insurance. And so
nobody's going through the Red
Sea. This is a set definitely a
way to jack up prices. Yes.
Adam Curry: And to maybe maybe
Orwell was inflation, but that's
because of the Houthis meant
something like that. Yeah.
Houthi inflation, Houthi
inflation Houthi
John C Dvorak: no one's good.
That's too hard to sell. For,
they call the call it system
name for the organization to
begin with, but
Adam Curry: they'll call it a
supply chain here. The what's
the future of big business?
Unknown: BP is now the latest
company to announce it's going
to be pausing shipments through
the Red Sea, as we mentioned,
with so much global trade going
through that area. What does
that mean for the future of big
business?
Well, I think if we're unable to
reestablish and reassert the
route of free passage here and
keep the Houthis in making these
attacks, everything's going to
slow down is 14 more days to go
around Africa to come up either
east or west. And that will tend
to exert greater pressure on the
market, probably the energy
energy market first, but other
markets as well. So it's in
everyone's interest, every
nation that moves on the global
commons actually has an interest
in ensuring that the Bab el
Mandeb is going to be open for
the ride of free passenger
ships. The
Adam Curry: Houthi price hike.
You never know. Final, final
clip here. Talk to us about the
region. I mean, we have to
understand the region what's
going on in the region. As you
Unknown: mentioned, the Houthis
are an Iranian proxy, what does
all of this suggest about the
potential for Israel's war
against Hamas to escalate into a
wider regional con region?
I think the odds of the
escalation beyond Gaza are
actually fairly small right now,
Lebanese, Hezbollah has not
chosen to enter the fray,
despite the fact they're
exchanging low levels of fire
with Israel on its northern
border. Iran has not chosen to
directly attack Israel. Those
are important things that have
perhaps been overlooked. Hamas
is not getting a lot of support
from those two entities. Now,
the Houthis are, but again, as I
said, the Houthis have limited
ability actually, to strike
Israel, they were reduced, you
know, to carrying out attacks
down around the Bab el Mandeb.
And they are doing that, but I
believe that's a problem we can
solve. We may need to be a
little more aggressive about it
than we've been today. But I
believe that's a solvable
problem. But the larger issue
is, I don't think it leads to
escalation.
Adam Curry: Okay, so no
escalation. It's a scam. By
obviously,
John C Dvorak: you know, the
idea that the Houthi is might be
working on our behalf is an
interesting one says, you know,
people are getting killed left
and right. With them. Shipping
has been stopped when money goes
around. But
Adam Curry: wouldn't it make
sense since we had to sell all
the boats, we sold all of that
war machine material, and we
paid for a lot of the defense of
Saudi Arabia in Yemen, of the
two T's and the Houthi so the
Houthis were hitting our allies
and we need war there so that we
can make more war stuff and now
it's just more war. It's like,
oh, like this looks as another
opportunity.
John C Dvorak: So yeah, while
inopportune everything's in
opportunity.
Adam Curry: Why wouldn't you
have those guys be on our
payroll? Hey, crank it up, boys.
And I remain the men that when I
saw them land on that ship,
John C Dvorak: with the with the
Houthi the Houthi banderas yeah
with with the GoPro the body
cams was the first person I
know. Let's say stage they
Adam Curry: got the helicopter
landing and then went dump an
app that was very staged that
was that was production edited
nicely put together, put it out
there.
John C Dvorak: Why didn't we do
anything about it the helicopter
flying around by itself nobody
cares. Yeah, we got all kinds of
gunships and everything in
between on float around in a
helicopter, through
Adam Curry: the Houthi heli is
on the loose, no worries
John C Dvorak: at all. And we
didn't know Oh, you didn't even
see it. But, you know, we got
satellites all over the place.
Give me a break,
Adam Curry: you know, one of
Tina's friends. You know, she
listens to the no agenda and her
I think, millennial daughter, I
have a quote. I, my, my
daughter, lecturing me about
Palestine, told me that John and
Adam can afford not to take
sides because they're old white
men. Like, what does that even
mean? I don't understand.
Because, you know, we don't have
to worry about it. You know, but
here's something Hello,
children.
John C Dvorak: Nice. Bill. Dad
had to wait, wait before you
finish that thought that had to
be inculcated, because there has
to be some rationale that these
kids are fed because that sounds
like something you'd say,
without thinking. In other
words, you were brainwashed into
saying that it says it's like,
because there's no thought is in
a statement like that.
Adam Curry: It's part of
colonialism, I think. Okay,
John C Dvorak: well, yeah,
that's what it is. I've always
been a colonialist.
Adam Curry: That's right. You
have a very small colony of
sanity in the Berkeley area.
John C Dvorak: Meanwhile, it
hasn't Miscavige another meeting
in February at the mallard club.
Adam Curry: I'd love to have
some protests for what's
happening in the Congo.
John C Dvorak: Three noble way
finish your thought on the on
the girl. No,
Adam Curry: that's what I just
that's all the thought I have is
it's it's stupidity. It's been
indoctrinated. And and so the
finishing of the thought is
while this
Unknown: security and logistical
challenges in Congo caused
disruptions in today's
presidential election, almost 44
million people were expected to
vote amid chaotic conditions.
crowds grew agitated after poll
openings were delayed for hours
in the capital city of Kinshasa,
and smudged ink on voting cards
slowed the process. As a result,
balloting will be extended until
tomorrow.
Adam Curry: So the New York
Times has a big article today
called the overlooked crisis in
Congo, we live in war. How many
people do you think have have
been killed in the past few
years in Congo?
John C Dvorak: Is this the
Democratic Republic of the
Congo?
Adam Curry: Yes.
John C Dvorak: I would say how
many people in the past year now
Adam Curry: the past couple of
years this this has been going
on for a few years?
John C Dvorak: I would say
100,000 6 million. But where's
the protests? The exactly
million that's three times the
population of Gaza. 6
Adam Curry: million now lurching
into a volatile new phase, that
no one cares. You know why
they're black racists. That's
why
John C Dvorak: I bet you no one
could identify a Congo flag. No,
Adam Curry: but they can they
sure know what a Palestine flag
looks like. Yeah, it's it's,
that's that's what gets my goat.
It's like, Please be quiet. You
don't care about people. You've
been programmed to say
something. That's all this
happening.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they
couldn't identify half these
places on a map. No,
Adam Curry: there's that or the
Congo is actually pretty easy to
find is big. Just pointed the
middle of Africa. You pretty
much I'll hit it. That's about
it.
John C Dvorak: Now I have a
couple of hooey on international
stuff. I have to I've got a new
story category. Oh, okay. I call
WTF news. When you're managing
WTF news refers to I have two
stories today. Actually. One of
them is not as good as the
other. But WTF news. These are
stories that you hear them and
use. And you wonder, did you
know this in the least this is
like again from anti D because
they they'll report on stuff
that why isn't this on the
network's
Adam Curry: on our networks? You
mean? Yeah. Okay. We'll find out
as soon as we get to it which
story? It will
Unknown: Venezuela turning our
attention now to South America,
Venezuela is fraying. 10 jailed
Americans and exchange for the
release of Colombian businessman
Alex Saab. He was arrested on a
US warrant back in 2020. For
funneling some $350 million from
a Venezuelan housing program saw
As a close ally of Venezuelan
President Nicolas Maduro, US
officials often referred to him
as Maduro as a bag man. As for
the released Americans,
according to the White House six
among the 10 were wrongfully
detained by the socialist
regime, Venezuela will free at
least 20 Venezuelans as well,
including political prisoners.
As part of the agreement.
Venezuela will also extradite
Leonard Francis, a defense
contractor known as fat leonard,
who orchestrated one of the
largest bribery schemes in the
history of the US military. The
scandal took down nearly two
dozen Navy officials. Francis
fled the US ahead of his
scheduled sentencing last year
and has since stayed in South
America. It's
Adam Curry: interesting, I had
this story,
John C Dvorak: that Leonard fat
leonard Yeah, I had the
Adam Curry: fat leonard story.
And here's the question I have
with and we said we had an
exchange we exchanged the
prisoners. Yeah. And my question
is, why are we giving special
preferential treatment to
Venezuelan illegal immigrants to
give them work permits when we
have this fat leonard deal going
on? Was that part of the deal?
Hey, you know what you give us
fat leonard. And we'll have, you
know, we'll give 15,000
Venezuelans who have crossed
over illegally, we'll give them
work permits.
John C Dvorak: That has to be
part of that deal has to be
going on. And I think some of
the political prisoners will be
coming up here too. I'm sure of
it. And this fat lenders story,
though about taking down like 20
Naval executives, and it was the
biggest scam of bribery scandal
in the history of the United
States. I'd never heard of fat
leonard seen how does that
happen? With our news media
seems
Adam Curry: to me that fat
learner needs to be shut up as
what's going on. We need to get
that get back here. So we can
like stifle him? Yeah, I think
fat when it's a problem.
John C Dvorak: That Lynard fat
linens
Adam Curry: Oh, title, writing
it down as we speak. Okay. I
have a little bit of AI news,
which I'd like to share.
John C Dvorak: I have a follow
up clip. Because I have some
thoughts on AI too. Because I
were at odds somewhat with
insofar as AI is concerned, even
though we have a great AI clip
at the end of the show mix. At
least in my opinion. Oh, yes.
Adam Curry: It's not AI. That's
actually one of our guys doing
that voice.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's might
as well be AI. No, it's the way
I see it. That
Adam Curry: is a tough way to
see it. Yeah, it's a talented
person. Do you want it? Do you
have something you want to play?
Well,
John C Dvorak: I want to, I want
you to play yours first. And
then I'll play my blue lip.
Well, I
Adam Curry: have I have a whole
setup. Okay, well, let
John C Dvorak: me just play
this. This was a fake video that
I thought was hilarious. This
one's got a big scandal at all.
I forgot NBC are somebody you
gotta say they're suing. They
sued over it. And the whole
thing is a fake video of this of
one of their anchors. Go ha.
This
Unknown: is good. And welcome to
a special edition of Meet the
Press. Now coming to you live
from beautiful Miami, Florida as
we count down to the third
Republican presidential debate
hosted by NBC News. I'm Garrett
Hake live from our NBC News
debate Hall spin room where we
are just hours away from five
Republican candidates taking the
stage. Tonight. It's arguably a
game of survival as the field
faces major questions about the
state of their own campaigns and
the state of this race. With
front runner Donald Trump
maintaining his commanding lead
and once again, skipping the
contest. This is Ron DeSantis
and establishment Rhino that
wears insoles in his boots in
order to look taller. And this
is Nikki Haley. Nobody really
gives a shit about Mettler
Haley. This guy is probably just
a stagehand Who the fuck invited
this guy, and this guy is
probably just delivering pizzas.
Anyway, nobody cares about these
bullshit Rhino debates,
especially when you know that
Donald Trump is going to kick
some ass tonight.
John C Dvorak: So they have
Trump at the end, of course. Now
if that's the that's the job.
I'm seeing this as the way Trump
used Twitter in 2016. Yes, you
use social media. I don't know
whose gives him these ideas. But
this is the Trump campaign,
using AI and doing crazy videos
like this thing was, if you can,
people can track it nowadays,
most of us but most of the
copies have been taken down.
Because NBC NBC so irked about
they sued them. And they sued
the Trump campaign and they
pulled it they but that is out
there. Yeah. And it's funny to
watch because when they say this
guy's delivering pizza then they
show Vivix. And they show I
don't know who this guy is like
it may be a janitor. And they
that's that was Scott. Yeah, it
was. It was very, very insulting
and funny this is
Adam Curry: this is this is the
whole point is AI and you could
have done. I mean, no one knows
Garrett Hake really? I mean, he
could have done it with a voice
actor but okay, we'll call it AI
fine. That's the business model.
That's all there is people are
afraid of the boy is gonna do
all that people are gonna fall
for the fake No, no, it's used
for humor. It's used for comedy.
John C Dvorak: I agree with you.
This is nobody's falling for
this. Oh, and the fact that NBC
sued and when you could say it
was a parody, they you could
have countersued and kept it up.
But it's better to be sued and
take it down. That's what you
want. Yes, more publicity. So it
makes it look better. And then
people go seek it out because I
had to do that. And you know, it
took some time I found it. And
then you get to watch and you
crack up. And you know, these
guys are all freaked out about
it. This is totally AI is is is
just for humor, and it's very
good at it. AI is
Adam Curry: for humor. And we
have some humor coming up. But
first, we need to have some
teeth put behind the executive
order that President Biden put
in place. Because AI is so
dangerous. It's dangerous. It's
racist is what it is. So we
found a case. Ha, boy, I'm so
happy we can prove that we need
these laws for AI earlier today,
Unknown: big news from the FTC
or Federal Trade Commission as
it banned Rite Aid from using
facial recognition technology
and its stores for five years.
Why? Well, according to the FTC,
Adam Curry: Don't you hate it
when they do that? Why,
John C Dvorak: why? Why? Why?
Well, if you leave that out, if
you leave the why out? It
actually flows
Adam Curry: better. No, but
yeah, it's a thing. It's like
people do that. Why? Well, I'm
gonna, I'm gonna educate you.
Well, according
Unknown: to the FTC, the
drugstore giants secretly used
it for nearly a decade for
surveillance purposes. But they
wrongly accused many of
shoplifting in the process. And
they falsely accused the people
that they did, were more likely
to be people of color or women.
In a statement writing that,
quote, We are pleased to reach
an agreement with the FTC and
put this matter behind us.
However, we fundamentally
disagree with the facial
recognition allegations in the
agency's complaint. Let's bring
in NBC News technology
correspondent Jake Ward,
Adam Curry: Jake Ward, have you
ever come across Jake ward? He's
the NBC technology
correspondent, Surely you've
heard of Jake ward? No. So Jake
Ward is going to explain he's
gonna explain to us and I like
this. I like that, hey, you
know, what they are AI is
identifying chicks and blacks.
They are thievin Magic,
obviously,
Unknown: a lot of questions,
people probably wondering around
this, like, what are the laws
that regulate, basically kick
the ball. So to the point that's
being made here in 2019, federal
agency found that Asian and
Black individuals were up to 100
times more likely to be
misidentified. So as the
technology also evolved since
then,
Adam Curry: so this, this is the
only thing they have on AI,
they're gonna go after
everything they can with this
one point, it's racist, because
old white men put it together is
racist.
Unknown: Well, let's say um, you
know, the technology has
evolved, but unfortunately use
it seems to have degraded at
least in right aids case mean,
right. That is the allegation
that FTC is basically coming
through this is the
Adam Curry: FTC. Are they? Do
they? Are they a judicial
agency? Do they have the right
to do this?
John C Dvorak: I think so.
Commission is
Unknown: going to hear, you
know, basically, if you walked
into a Rite Aid in a large urban
center of Baltimore,
Philadelphia, San Francisco
between 2012 and 2020, you were
picked up by this facial
recognition system. And I've
been speaking with people, how
Adam Curry: many white people
are in Rite Aid in Baltimore?
Just Just a question offhand.
You know, I'm just like,
Baltimore is pretty black. It's
a very black area,
Unknown: we're close to this
project. And they say, you know,
initially, the idea was, that
people would then come to you
having, you know, matched your
photo to a very high tech
database of other repeat
shoplifters. And then the idea
was that the staff member would
somehow come over and just say,
Excuse me, sir, may I help you
and by being kind of greeted in
that very polite high touch way,
you'd be embarrassed and you'd
leave that was sort of going to
be the original idea.
Adam Curry: You'd be embarrassed
and kind of leave like oh, I
didn't steal anything. Be be
embarrassed AI is embarrassed
John C Dvorak: embarrassed by
somebody come over say can I
help you? That happens all the
time. But over
Unknown: the years, Sam, I mean,
you know, right. The money paid
to retail clerks has stayed the
same while their
responsibilities have gone up
and up and up right morale
staffing problems, the rest of
it mean it's in an environment
of really, you know,
dysfunctional a really
dysfunctional A market, you
suddenly have employees trying
to deal with a lot of
shoplifting Oh, the poor
employees and not in a sensitive
way. And it turns out not in a
way where you could rely on the
technology. The FTC says that
1000s of people were falsely
identified as shoplet. Write
John C Dvorak: this report. He's
just rambling, telling us
anything, after
Unknown: hours, even though you
know, the technology in theory
can be better. The people who
were not trained, they would
hold people out of line,
embarrass them in front of their
colleagues, their families,
their friends, all that, you
know, this high minded ambition,
that Rite Aid and many other
sources seem to have had with
facial recognition did not work
out such that the FTC has now
banned that company from using
it for five years.
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, the TSA
uses that every single day that
when you go to the airport,
they're scanning your face.
They're approving you based upon
facial recognition, airlines are
checking you in automatically
just by looking at a camera. No
report on that. Jake ward.
Unknown: So the enforcement
obviously is a challenge to put
it mildly. I'm also wondering,
Jake, companies like Rite Aid, I
mean, we talked about the fact
this was done secretly, at least
those are the allegations from
the FTC. Do you have to disclose
if you're using this kind of
technology?
Yes, you do now, and that is
what is so interesting. The
reason that this is such a big
deal in the tech world is this
is the FTC, I've been speaking
to sources close to that agency.
And they say that this is part
of the FTC effort to try to stop
the large scale practice of
essentially experimenting on all
of us when it comes to big data,
except with the government wants
to do it at the airport. And
that's not just going to be
facial recognition systems, it's
going to be things like AI,
right? Last minute people to
collect all kinds of data on all
of us, and experiment in the
wild on the kind of conclusions
you can reach using that stuff.
The FTC is saying no more. In
this case, one of the
punishments being levied against
Rite Aid is they have to delete
the database that they had
assembled across all the stores
across the nation, they don't
get to just sort of
John C Dvorak: make a backup,
then delete it, or try again,
Unknown: that is a big cost to
any kind of tech driven company.
You know, in addition, they
basically say that, you know,
this kind of new standard that
you're gonna have to really
prove that this thing works on
an ongoing basis is also going
to apply getting off the
Adam Curry: hook. All right,
he's done. All right.
John C Dvorak: Jay Z's on and on
and on about nothing. It was so
what?
Adam Curry: Alright, now we get
to the information, the info
Mavericks, the info Mavericks,
there was a big info Maverick
meeting, at Turning Point USA
John C Dvorak: or your buddy. So
yeah, though, yeah. To be info
Maverick club, the info Maverick
Adam Curry: club, in this case,
at turning point, USA onstage a
live pool boy podcast, with our
hero, the pool boy, along with
Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk,
James O'Keefe. I mean, this is
the creme de la creme of the
John C Dvorak: Mavericks, the
cream of the Maverick and let's
hear
Adam Curry: how afraid they are
of AI and how AI is going to eat
the
Unknown: world. We may be we may
be past the event horizon, the
point at which you know towards
AI is so great. There's no
backing away from it, what we're
being so faster and fast, I
think you can go into it with
these neural nets. A human that
understands the code can go into
the system, be in the virtual
realm and reverse engineer the
AI and see what's happening and
how it's being run in real time.
Stay with it gets better.
Maybe I would just do with the
keyboard. But I'm not going into
that. But listen, this is this
was Elon Musk's argument, we
must integrate with the machine,
Terminator like scenario. And
that's the word we think this is
going to end well. I mean,
honestly, like, this is the
scary this is what people need
to understand about about the
singularity event when a I hold
Adam Curry: on to this where
people don't understand I'm
appalled by this when people
aren't going to say right, I was
gonna understand this because
it's very important. It's very
important. Like,
Unknown: this is the scary this
is what people need to
understand about about the
singularity event when AI when
it actually turns on when we
reach Artificial General
Intelligence might be there. And
we might be there. No, it isn't.
It's a point at which the
machine itself beat
exponentially improves itself.
So if the rate of growth for the
the computer systems that we're
building is say more as live
doubles every two years,
Adam Curry: that's not Moore's
law. It doubles every two years.
Generally,
Unknown: we're building is say
more as live doubles every two
years. Once we reach the point
of AI singularity, or I guess
you could call it Artificial
General Intelligence, straight
to the top, right up to the
point of near infinity, where
this machine is improving
itself, learning faster and
faster and calculating faster.
And then it's beyond our our
comprehension. Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: saw the movie The
Forbin Project Colossus, The
Forbin Project recently. It does
exactly what he described as the
Adam Curry: man. The hell yes,
we're all going to die.
John C Dvorak: The AI system.
Project, go check it out.
People.
Adam Curry: We've talked about
it. I've watched it. You can get
it on YouTube. This is
fantastic. Oh, yeah.
John C Dvorak: And it's old.
It's from the 60s. Isn't it 70s?
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, guys on
emacs doing Lisp rolling their
eyes. So well My
John C Dvorak: thing is there's
you're gonna get a neural net,
which is going to go and kind of
D. Disassemble the code somehow,
huh? Yeah. Yeah. And then you're
gonna be able to go in there
because you've disassembled the
code with a neural net and then
you can fool around i This is
nuts. These people
Adam Curry: are no good for
your, for your mental health.
Nor are the next people. Now
this is I'm gonna bring in a
professor now.
John C Dvorak: Galloway, Shaw
Adam Curry: so close. It's so
close. It is from the pivot
show, which I might point out is
the award winning technology
podcast, award winning. I've
never heard him talking about
technology. It's the award
winning technology podcast. And
they have a bunch of predictions
for 2024. And they bring in a
Stanford professor of AI to to
predict what is going to happen
in 2024. Okay, Scott. Now
Unknown: let's hear a prediction
from Dr. Fei Fei Li.
Oh, hi, Taryn Scott. This is Fei
Fei Li. I'm Sequoia Professor of
Computer Science at Stanford.
Denning, co director of Stanford
Institute for Human Centered AI,
and the author of The she AI.
Adam Curry: I think she's Asian.
Her name is fufu are far far.
She's obviously a I know she's
not code and code for us. And I
love that she used to McCoy a
professor, you know how that
works. Hi, I'm Mike Morris from
Sequoia we're going to give you
$100 million. But whenever your
professor goes on pivot and
award winning technology
podcast, she has to say hello, I
am the Sequoia professor. You
John C Dvorak: know, the joke of
that is that when I hear the
Sequoia professor, I think of a
tree. I don't think the VC can
Adam Curry: pie. I'm the Pfizer
professor, but listen to listen
to her prediction. Now this is
this is where you know they'll
shut up now you know, it's boom
Unknown: Ooh, crap.
This is Fei Fei Li. I'm Sequoia
Professor of Computer Science at
Stanford. Denning, co director
of Stanford Institute for Human
Centered AI, and the author of
the book The world's I see. My
prediction for AI in 2024 is
that the technology will
continue to deepen and widen but
a very impressive speed, we're
gonna see more multimodal large
models beyond language into the
domain of perception and world
modeling. We will also see AI
continue to create a lot of
discussion among the public and
policymakers as we experienced
the messy impact of AI in our
society, in our industry. Thank
you. Okay,
but what was that? Exactly?
Adam Curry: I think that
technology will widen and deepen
the, okay. Bullshit, it will,
everything's going to widen and
deepen as you dig deeper from
this bowl. And it will become
multimodal. Now. I've been
following this now. Now. I'm so
irked by this by this scam, that
I'm following multimodal means
it will be able to you will
build large language models with
video and images and voice and
audio. So yeah, put our podcast
in there, please. And she
predicts Glo world modeling this
is the new buzz term. World
might even mean I'm glad you
asked. I'm asking from the
university I got a quick
splinter of world modeling also
known as General world model.
The thing
Unknown: is, alums only know
about language. What if we
applied the same big data big
model approach to how we
generate videos? Well, that's
what we're calling general
worlds models. GW Adams, and we
believe that they're the next
big thing. Similar to LLM
general worlds models are given
a large amount of data, but not
just text. It's also given
videos, images and audio,
everything you'd need in order
to understand how the world
works. And with all this
information, the models build
out sort of a mental map for
themselves. And this is where my
dog comes in. Hi Ruben. Ruben
also has an internal model of
the world based on things he
knows. And it looks something
like this He learned that if we
go this way, there's a higher
chance of us going to the park.
And if we go that way, there's a
dog that kind of looks at him
funny. He knows that there's
usually sidewalk chicken scraps
right here. And that these
stores known as pet stores that
have the tweets that he likes,
once we get to the park, this is
where all the bus sniffing
happens. With all of this data,
the sights, sounds,
relationships of things, Rubin
has figured out how to predict
certain outcomes and adjust his
behaviors, just like the general
world model.
Adam Curry: So there you have
it, a far cry from the fear
mongering from the pool boy and
the info Mavericks, the level
that they're talking about for
2024 is a dog who knows when you
turn right, but sniffing will
happen. This is this is the
future. That's from the
university.
John C Dvorak: And yeah, and
they were no, they were a big
disrobe that Stanford was big,
big, big in the 80s. You can but
sniff and they're always big.
And but sniffing everybody who's
ever been there knows that you
have to be careful, by the way
you go.
Adam Curry: The bud sniffing is
could be very bad. So it's, it's
nothing. It is. I'm telling you,
they're gonna pivot to quantum
computing. No, they have to,
they have to know
John C Dvorak: that. There's no
logical pivot there. There's
they're going to pivot I'm not
going to argue the point the
pivot is climate, they always do
that the pivot pivot from Ai
they did in the 80s. They did in
the 50s. Well, hold
Adam Curry: on, hold on. This is
a good point, when in the 50s,
neither you or I know but in the
80s, when they pivoted away when
the AI Winter came in the 80s
word that they pivot to,
John C Dvorak: they will do all
I can tell well, they pivoted to
the internet, I believe. And
they they bailed on the AI. And
the thing is, the funny thing
about the Stanford woman is that
Stanford was one of the two sort
of one of the two main AI areas
who was Stanford and I think was
MIT. And and I think Carnegie
Mellon has some maybe had their
toe in the water. But when they
bailed they basically destroyed
all their research to a lot of
the research has been just they
got rid of it because it was too
embarrassing. And they had to
start over they people would dug
up some of the old stuff is
really got to kick started a new
AI movement. The right there. I
don't know, I think I don't know
the
Adam Curry: reason. The reason
why I say quantum computers is a
because it's not real, be well,
it's
John C Dvorak: been around but
it's already been there as we're
already past the quantum
computing fad. Okay,
Adam Curry: this is a headline
from the hill. If countries are
serious about climate change,
they better get serious about
quantum computing. And the story
goes like this quantum computing
uses laws of quantum physics to
store and process information
and rapidly solve complex
problems. Quantum computers
available today require
additional maturation to deliver
on their full potential. Then
here it is, quantum computers
will be able to accelerate
improvements in batteries, which
are pivotable to the pivotal to
the renewable energy transition.
And they keep going on about oh,
companies like BMW are
investigating the use of quantum
computers to identify optimal
locations to install electric
vehicle charging stations. Why
you need a quantum computer for
that? How bows are likely none.
Daimler partner with IBM to use
quantum simulation to better
understand lithium sulfur
batteries and explore how to
boost batteries charge capacity,
diminish energy loss via heat
and lower production costs.
Doesn't that sound a lot like
AI?
John C Dvorak: Well, what you're
saying my interpretation of what
you're getting at is that you
see such a smokescreen of BS
that well there's a smokescreen
of BS here. Yes. So why don't we
just move over to the other
smoke screen
Adam Curry: went from blockchain
to AI. I mean, that was
smokescreen. smokescreen.
Everybody knew blockchain was
crap.
John C Dvorak: I don't think
blockchain was the was the entry
point for AI?
Adam Curry: Not at all. Oh no.
For the markets charm for the
markets. That was crypto and
blockchain and that was that was
right before Oh, now it's AI.
Oh, AI. What? No, I think it's a
separate track we need Need
reasons for Nvidia to overcharge
for their chips? Quantum is the
next way for that.
John C Dvorak: If you didn't
react bla, here's the problem
with that. The Nvidia chips
which are more or less perfect
for AI, because you get to, you
need so much computing power to
do the stupidest stuff,
including where a dog is fast.
It's like, yeah, nailed it.
Quantum Computing is a different
type of computing. I mean, it's,
the architecture is totally
alien, and no one can do it. I
mean, we google claims to have
made a quantum computer that
solve some problem. And it's
there, I never bought into that
is bullcrap. The state this is a
joke.
Unknown: The
Adam Curry: great article, how
artists are now sabotaging AI
with data poisoning. Have you
heard of this? No.
John C Dvorak: But this reminds
me of what vandals like to me
this vandalism. Yes. Yes. Well,
yeah. And vandals. Vandals are
out to just like, for example,
the driverless cars. Yeah, there
is a subculture of vandals that
like to put like an X on a stop
sign or, or put some word over
the word stop on a stop sign or,
or take stop signs out where
they belong. And even though
it's still on the road, and do
stuff to screw up the driverless
car. Yes. And it doesn't take
much. It turns out well,
Adam Curry: there's a tool
called Nightshade. And you run
your image through nightshade,
and it alters the pixels in a
way that screws up the way the
computer the AI looks at the
image and what it interprets
from the image. So the example
they give here is you need an
image of a balloon. You'd prompt
red balloon against a blue sky
but it returns an egg
John C Dvorak: love this. I love
this. I love these guys.
Adam Curry: Great. This is
fancy. So it's already becoming
just a great it's just great.
It's fun. The AI is entertaining
and good for our show. That's
pretty much
John C Dvorak: is that I think
the whole key is entertainment.
Yes. That's all this is hardly
anything you want to worry
yourself sick about. Yeah, I
mean, it could get tedious at at
some point. But
Adam Curry: we have in that in
that thing. The poor boy brought
up something called Dead
internet. And dead internet is
this idea that everything on the
internet will just be a bot and
everything your this probably to
some degree there's already a
lot of that going on. And that
you'll be you'll think that
you'll be having conversations
with people we just talking with
bots all day long. I think
that's kind of we're already
there. I
John C Dvorak: think some people
can be stuck in that mode. Yeah,
yeah.
Adam Curry: Especially in cells.
John C Dvorak: organ cells.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: sadly, sadly.
John C Dvorak: Okay with this
cute female bots. She's She
loves me. She says if I sent her
enough money, she can get she
can leave South Carolina to I
guess she was a runner up to
miss South Carolina. She's gonna
move out here with me. I
Adam Curry: don't know if it's
just me but the the pig
butchering is at an all time
high right now. I am getting so
many text messages. You know
that we know how this works.
We've discussed it several
times. The pig butchering where
they send you a note let me see
I have one here. From a 510 area
code. How are you? How's it
going? Okay, so we'll skip that
when there's more creative ones.
Let me see when was the other
one I had? Hey, I saved your
number but I didn't save your
name. Who are you? Yeah, no, no,
I'm gonna answer that area code
906
John C Dvorak: What are they
what what are we talking about
here? He butchering
Adam Curry: where you reply. And
then and then and then they send
you know it's always some hot
Asian chick and then she sends
you an image like oh, you kind
of cute and then eventually you
wind up investing in some
cryptocurrency and you make
money. You make money because
it's a phony fake front. You
make money and then they get you
to mortgage your house. It's a
long game long, long game long
game.
John C Dvorak: Here's a bunch of
a bunch of these phonies on
LinkedIn nowadays. Linda
Adam Curry: How soon will you
pick me up that's a good one.
That's an interesting one.
John C Dvorak: Are these your
phone messages? Yeah, this
Adam Curry: is a text message.
Hey, what are you doing as that
one? Yeah. Oh, this this is
rampant in your probably comes
from x blue. Are you there?
Question mark. Yeah, yeah,
John C Dvorak: it's None of
these,
Adam Curry: you don't even use
your phone.
John C Dvorak: It's in the
drawer. Yeah, I will I have to
talk about this is when when
things we're going to talk
about, when January 1 comes
around, I will have gone one
entire year without a cell
phone, carrying a cell phone, or
having a cell phone or even
having an account for a cell
phone one entire year. And I
bring this up to certain people
and like I brought it up at the
bank the other day, and
everybody goes nuts. How do you
do it? I wish I could do that.
And of course, my response I
wish I could do that is just do
it. You go How can you do that?
How do you?
Adam Curry: How do you How would
you do it? How do you function?
How do you live? How is it
possible? I mean, do you have a
life? Do you have friends? Do
you know what I mean? Did you
have a seeing eye dog? How can
you live without your phone?
It's pretty
John C Dvorak: much the reaction
you get from everyone. And it's
like this was only just before
2007 When people didn't carry
these phones around like crazy.
It's not that long ago, it's
less than 20 years in the entire
population has been addicted to
carry your phone around. And
like use pointed out to me,
which I didn't notice at the
time as a couple of years ago.
And I see nothing he bought guys
and gals walking around with a
phone in their hand, all the
time, wherever they go their
phone, or their hand them two
Adam Curry: of them. Sometimes
two women sometimes have two
phones. I see that a lot. One is
John C Dvorak: like work. It
turns out that you don't need
that he had the phone. I mean,
once in a while you'd be at a
study at the store or something,
you know, wonder so and so once
you call us if you want to buy
one of these as on sale, you
don't need to do that. And then
while you're there, the response
I get is hey, you bet you I get
text messages from me. I get
texts, you do have a phone,
you're liar. And it's like no, I
use Google. Yeah, I use Google
Voice and which has text message
me to do it on the computer. I
come in and like when you open
it up once every week and find
some messages on there. I send
messages out to people who I
gotta send some information
important. Important people
important. Important. Yeah. And
you use
Adam Curry: you use your text
message twice a week for me
newsletter. Newsletter,
newsletter, please review,
newsletter, newsletter.
John C Dvorak: Well, you require
it. I wouldn't normally do that
because I send you the
newsletter and have to look at
Adam Curry: it because I'm
looking at my email all day. I
have
John C Dvorak: to because you're
stuck on a phone like everybody
else. I send you the dynamic
text.
Adam Curry: I am not stuck on a
phone. You have a phone. I'm the
graphene OS there's a lot of
stuff it doesn't know
John C Dvorak: I agree with I
mean you you've done your best.
Yes, I have. But you haven't
done you haven't gotten all the
way here's, here's the
Adam Curry: problem. Here's the
problem with with the phone.
Text messaging was kind of
useful, but it's been so
poisoned now. Because, you know,
I have Greg Abbott texting me
I've Kamala Harris texting me. I
got Joe Biden texting me. And
then they give my number out to
all these pig butchers who are
texting me. It's filled and you
have to be careful. It's like
hey, you know, this is this is
your bank, click here for for an
important message. And before
you know it, you know your bank
account is compromised. The two
factor authentication there's
there's nothing useful anymore
in communication. This is just
not a bureau I use signal. I use
telegram I use the what's the
what are the it's all crap. That
really is become very useless.
All of this, this. It used to be
that you got my phone and then a
couple of people have my number.
And if they if you really need
to get a hold of me, you're
important in my life. Now you
can have that. Now now because
everybody's important. Everybody
has my number that's just sold
over and over and over again.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, once it
gets out there. I should do
Rogan
Adam Curry: Joe Rogan just buys
a new number every like six
months. I know people that do
that. Yeah, he just gets in he
gets a whole new phone to just
gets a new phone. And he leaves
the leaves the other phone in
the you know at home. And then
if I send him a message Oh,
dude, yeah, here's my new
number. Or sometimes you'll tell
me if he changes the number and
he keeps the old one for a while
and then he gets rid of it. Yes,
John C Dvorak: of course a
number of people that do that.
So it's a it's a practice a lot
of people employ, but then
Adam Curry: I know lots of
people who have given up their
number and they got a new number
and then they're getting to text
messages from someone's old
number and oh yeah,
John C Dvorak: this is a huge
problem. And then people because
the old the new number is really
somebody else's old number that
they gave up to get a new
number, because they're getting
too many messages and now you're
stuck with that number getting
weird messages from people you
never knew.
Adam Curry: The only solution
really is to go into a system
where you pay you pay for the
resolution. Yes, I have this
leave it in the drawer. I have
no life. Drawer. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: I don't need the
aggravation of that. Uh, that's
why the other one I told one of
the tellers, he said, Why do you
what happens? How do people get
a hold of you say, go home and
get a hold of me on a landline?
I'm not a doctor, I don't need
to be gone call 24/7. If I was a
heart specialist, or somebody
like that, I would want to carry
a phone. Sure, but I'm not. I'm
a podcaster. Nobody needs to get
a hold of me.
Adam Curry: My friend is the ER
doctor. And he doesn't he
literally does not have a phone
at dinner. He did save a little
girl's life the other night and
we're having dinner.
John C Dvorak: How do you find
out because
Adam Curry: she she walked by
him. She's like seven years old.
And he immediately heard
something, which was her
choking. And he grabbed her and
like, bam, bam, bam, they're
back. Rip whips her head back
looks still not love. Boom,
boom, boom. And it popped right
out. I was witnessed it. Yes. We
were having dinner with them. It
was restaurant. Yes, it was. It
was I've never seen anyone's
training and be able to spring
into action like that. And he
heard it. She had the little
girls probably gonna try to go
around the table to get to her
mom on the other side. And she
was just choking. And he heard
that and he immediately knew
what to do. I was impressed does
not have a phone with them. Er,
Doctor.
John C Dvorak: Er is different
than your yet you. Yeah. It's
the same as being an on call.
And
Adam Curry: the reason why the
reason why is he doesn't want
the hospital to call and say we
you need to come in because it's
busy. That's why he doesn't have
a phone. But I did find out
something interesting of
interest. You know, we have the
big solar eclipse coming up.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
The big one, April 8.
Adam Curry: These are things you
don't think about, but the
hospital has ordered quite a
number of body bags. They're
expecting so many people to come
to Fredericksburg. They expect
there to be a number of people
more people than normal that
will die and will need a body
Ben Oh, just
John C Dvorak: statistics. Yes.
Statistics. You got to be
prepared. You gotta have you
have people that that logistics
people who work at the hospital
that know these things? Hey, we
got to do this. We got to do
that. It
Adam Curry: will be it will be
great for a local news report so
people wouldn't come to you. You
have a statistical chance of
leaving Fredericksburg in a body
bad. Please don't come. Don't
visit us at all. Yeah, good
luck. Why do people do that for
15 minutes? Why are people
coming from all around the
world?
John C Dvorak: What is them when
they're there? Get out there
with a microphone and ask him
what? Why are you here, dummy.
Adam Curry: And believe me, the
phones will not work here. The
phones that we barely get
service. The overloaded Yeah, on
the weekends, it already
overloaded. All the retailers
they have to go to wired
terminals, because the wireless
terminals get overloaded on a
Saturday. Because the whole
because that works as a cell
network. No, no, no, it's stay
away the
John C Dvorak: end of
civilization.
Adam Curry: Oh, well. That's a
good point. One of the trolls
says the phone companies will
bring in the event trucks. Yeah,
maybe. Maybe. Yeah, they
John C Dvorak: can do that. To
do that.
Adam Curry: I'm good. I'm
bringing up my ham radio stuff.
I'm sick of it. I need to be
prepared. And then where the end
is near.
John C Dvorak: I can take a
three parter here with the
Chinese election meddling.
Adam Curry: Oh, I thought it was
only Russia that does that. No.
Turns
John C Dvorak: out China does it
more than Russia. Okay,
Adam Curry: part one. Yeah.
Unknown: A recent report by the
the intelligence community finds
that the Chinese regime tried to
meddle in the 2022 midterm
elections. Does it work and what
will happen in the 2024
election? Joining us now is Dean
Baxendale CEO of China democracy
fund and optimum publishing
International. Baxendale just
published a new book, The Mosaic
effect, how the Chinese
Communist Party started a hybrid
war in America's backyard. Now
there's a declassified US
intelligence report that says
China tried to meddle in the
2022 midterm elections in the
US. how seriously should we be
taking this?
I think we should be taking this
extremely seriously this year.
and the intelligence community
are doing a great service for
America, and quite frankly for
the free world by declassifying
and making some of these reports
available to the public to
understand that malign state
governments like Chinese
Communist Party, Russia, Iran,
all interfering in elections
around the world. So I would say
yes, it's extremely important to
this report, this information is
coming out. On that note, the
report notes that China quote
tacitly approved efforts to try
to influence a handful of
midterm racism voting members of
both US political parties, those
are candidates seen as anti
China now, how is China able to
influence elections outside of
their own borders? So
as you know, the Chinese
Communist Party uses the United
Front work department, globally?
Adam Curry: This is she brings
up it kind of an interesting
point without even thinking
about it. Both candidates, both
sides hate China, who are they
trying to tip the scales for?
John C Dvorak: The people who do
our candidates who don't have a
hatred of China and they don't
express it deal with threatened
China? You know, the Stooges?
Eric Swalwell types of Fangfang
Adam Curry: don't need to go
hack him. I just put Fangfang
next to him in bed, or
John C Dvorak: any any woman I
think. Yeah, this thing called
the united front. Sounds
sketchy. Yeah, you can look it
up. It's in Wikipedia, it's got
a story about it here go to part
two,
Unknown: they're running
operations. In Canada, the
United States, Mexico, the UK,
they have united front people
who will ultimately control
various media outlets,
throughout and proxy
corporations, especially in
Canada, where we have 56 media
outlets that are either
controlled directly or
indirectly by the Chinese
Communist Party or proxies,
they're attached to the united
front. So they're using their
own information within the
Chinese community to change
votes or persuade Chinese guys
or community members to vote in
a certain way or to view a
politician in a certain way that
might be negative towards China,
and therefore, that is one way
they would with the influence in
terms directly in the media. The
next of course, is social media,
and their use of trolls and
bots, Will that continue to put
out disinformation or
misinformation? Or do you want
one look at it, and actually
exacerbate points of division,
both on the left and the right,
that alienate voters and
actually influenced them in
voting in particular? Wait
Adam Curry: a minute. The
Chinese are using Putin's
playbook?
John C Dvorak: Yes, Chinese
playbook. No, it's
Adam Curry: Putin his playbook.
I'm not buying any of this. This
is all bull crap. The i Okay. I
think we don't need Chinese
helping us argue on social
media. Seriously?
John C Dvorak: Well, it might be
one of those things where
they're doing stuff because they
think it's effective. Well, duh,
is really just a joke. They're
just fooling
Adam Curry: themselves that that
that cyber front, whatever it's
called, they're, they're united
front, united front, they're
stealing money from the Chinese
government. They don't need any
of that. Just just post one word
Trump and then back away and
Unknown: see what happens to
Trump.
Adam Curry: That's all you need.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
actually that would work that
does work. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I can get paid for
that.
John C Dvorak: Right. You don't
need to listen to the last of
this.
Adam Curry: Are you sure I'm
enjoying?
John C Dvorak: Okay, go play.
Unknown: And in terms of the
United Front Work Department
give us a sense of how does this
relate to the Chinese Communist
Party? Is this its own little
category? Or is it backed by the
government? So
as you know, the United Front
actually is the Department of
the Chinese Communist Party
there was over I believe now
there's over the close to 40,000
employees around the world,
their influence operations, both
soft power and sharp power
operations inside countries
around the globe power to ensure
that China is viewed as a
positive and a great nation to
do business with and to
ultimately partner with their
propaganda operations.
misinformation, disinformation.
Propaganda is just one of the
many tools used by the United
Front, you know, throughout the
world, you can look at other
elements of the United Front
including, you know, direct
political influence operations
in terms of bribes or and or
money that's being donated
directly into
donated for instance,
or directly into constituencies
that may influence a politician
and how he views in particular
issue that may be pro or against
the Chinese Communist Party's
ambitions.
John C Dvorak: Donate to no
agenda. Yeah,
Adam Curry: this is yeah, you
know, okay, fine. Fine, aye.
Aye. All of this influence on
the The Internet No, none of it.
None of social media is is just
the place where you going yell?
Because you're hooked on it
because yeah, people are hooked
on it. And it's it's unhealthy.
John C Dvorak: They're hooked to
their phone, the phone, same
thing.
Adam Curry: You know, you you
brought something up on the last
show the show before that about
me stopping smoking weed and how
Mimi thought that was great.
John C Dvorak: And a lot of
other people chimed in saying
yes. And
Adam Curry: what's interesting
is I have received at least 10
emails 10 that say, Oh, wow, I
would like to quit smoking weed
too. How did you do it? This is
this is an unexpected response
from our audience that dead.
Yeah. So I would like to give a
brief overview of how I did it.
I want to
John C Dvorak: be interested in
myself even though I don't know
why care. Well,
Adam Curry: one, I had a small
incentive, because my
periodontist called and said,
Adam, I'm going to operate on
you stop putting fire in your
mouth. It makes it harder for me
to operate and harder for you to
recover. So I had an incentive.
I've had lots of incentives in
the past. But I quit cold
turkey. This is the number one
quit cold turkey. Number two, I
vaped. Not in fact, it wasn't it
not even nicotine just a vape
mainly for the oral fixation.
The process of having something
in my hands. This is this is I
found that to be the hardest. I
do want more I'm going to do I'm
missing that motion. I also got
a geek vape that's a brand which
gives you more to do because you
have to build the coil yourself
and put the
John C Dvorak: cotton like, like
pipe smokers. Yes,
Adam Curry: yes, very precisely.
So part of it for me weed was
the process of roll, I could
roll a joint with one hand
behind my back. I mean, while
driving no problem. So that
having the process of doing
something, I also had a project
to work on because you become
very productive very quickly
within a day. And so I set up a
Trillium database just have
something to do. I set up a
Trillium so I have something I
have a project and final advice
John C Dvorak: has been a bottle
might be more appropriate for
most of the puzzle ship
Adam Curry: in a bottle. Have a
project like like Lego?
John C Dvorak: Lego? Yeah, Lego.
Adam Curry: Have a partner to
keep you in check. Because if
you're alone, that's the worst
if you're alone, then the devil
will come and get you and be
like well no one's gonna see I'm
just have one toke and and take
it one day at a time then one
week and one month and now it's
been 14 months.
John C Dvorak: And I worked 18
months I didn't realize it was
that long already. Oh, yeah.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it was it was
it was Thanksgiving last year.
So yeah, Dominus
John C Dvorak: longer than I've
been off the phone.
Adam Curry: Together we're a
catch. We're great guys
together. Alright, sticking with
a quitting before we take our
break here. Something very
interesting happening for the
holiday season. Via is you
thought ozempic was good. It's
holiday season with
Unknown: the holiday season in
full swing. Some people who take
drugs use for weight loss such
as ozempic are planning a pause
on their prescriptions ahead of
celebrations arrow Russia was
back with the details and what
to know good morning Ariel Good
morning
again, Robin. As we know many
have seen dramatic results
taking this class of medications
for weight loss but some say
they need a break for the
holidays. Whether it's for a
little indulgence or cost
savings. Doctors caution it's a
trade off.
Adam Curry: This is I found this
to be interesting. Well
John C Dvorak: I find it to be
ridiculous. I thought the whole
idea was your take there was me
so you can you can chow down.
No,
Adam Curry: no, I think the
reason why people are stopping
is because otherwise you're
throwing up all day. You know
it's like you go to have
Christmas dinner and I gotta go
take a dump I gotta go puke. I
don't feel good.
Unknown: This season for holiday
feasting and now some using
medications like ozempic Manjaro
and we go V for weight loss say
they're taking a vacation from
the drugs
and popular opinion in the
semaglutide world. Julie still
Kelly who lost
38 pounds says she's foregoing
the appetite suppressing
semaglutide in favor of feeling
less uncomfortably full and
fielding fewer questions during
festive meals. She skipped her
dose during Thanksgiving. What I
noticed was I was still able to
eat the things that I really
wanted to indulge a little bit I
just had to be really conscious
about how I was feeling what I
was eating how fast I was eating
it
for Kaylee Svenson, who lost 90
pounds on Manjaro. Cutting back
this time of year is a financial
decision. A trade off to put
presents under the tree.
It's something that is
financially extraordinarily
expensive for our fans. way to
afford because our insurance
isn't covering it. I can make a
box last six weeks instead of
four that will save me a couple
100 Extra.
Adam Curry: I think this
contained a minute. I think this
may be part of the ploy to get
this thing on Medicare. Look at
these poor people they put
presents under the tree to sack
sacrifice family
Unknown: to afford because our
insurance isn't covering it. If
I can make a box last six weeks
instead of four that will save
me a couple 100 extra dollars.
Kaylee
says her prescription cost her
more than $1,000 for for single
use doses. If I
can stretch it for 10 days
instead of every week that helps
me push off you know the expense
a little bit. Doctors
caution pausing the treatments
can come with some side effects
like nausea, increased appetite
and weight gain.
If a patient skips their
medication for one to two weeks,
there is a potential for them to
have some increased side
effects, they might not see
those improvements in their
hunger and appetite. Ah,
Adam Curry: here's another part,
don't stop taking it.
Unknown: And so they'll
inevitably eat more and that may
contribute to some weight gain.
And
with all of the temptations this
time of year doctors say this
may not be the ideal time to
pause treatment if you're hoping
to maintain your progress but a
week or so shouldn't set you too
far back guys and there are
temptations this time of year.
Adam Curry: God how many people
are on this stuff. So I do have
a you have quick two quick boots
on the ground notices important
for us to know. I incorrectly
stated that semaglutide is out
of patent wrongs as James. He
says semaglutide and all other
GLP one agonists are not generic
the patent does not expire until
July 17 2026. The compound a GLP
one agonists you spoke of our
reverse engineered formulas.
There are no generics of ozempic
trulicity or any other GLP one
agonist because they are still
patented. The different names of
Novo Nordisk products are just
branding for the same drug
different doses. Yes, we got
that. And then a second boots on
the ground note. And this is
about the cost. I have a client
who has just started taking the
compounded versions of
semaglutide. We have pharmacy
pharmacists, in our vast boots
on the ground army, they add
vitamin B 12 to it, which
qualifies it as a new drug. My
client is getting it from a
compounding pharmacy in
Pennsylvania. So that's the
workaround is yeah, you just get
the you get the semaglutide You
throw some beat 12 in new drug,
it's okay. The compounded
version comes in a vial and the
patient must use a standard
syringe to draw it. That's why
people are overdosing short. The
compound version was prescribed
by her PCP primary care
physician, I guess. And it's
only $250 A month instead of the
typical 1000. The drug sells in
every other country in the world
for $30. Yeah, the main reason
for the increased increased
price is the PBMs. pharmacy
benefit managers you remember
this term? Yep. This is what
Trump went
John C Dvorak: after. Yeah,
Trump went after him. And
supposedly Biden did something
about it. But there's no
evidence of it. Biden talks a
big game, but none of this ever
happens. This is like Biden
talking a big game about the
climate change and the rest of
them we have more oil production
than ever. Yeah, he's just full
of crap. This guy all knows the
theme.
Adam Curry: All of the pharmacy
benefit managers are owned by
pharmacies like CVS owns optim
RX, they approve or disapprove
the prescribed drug for
coverage. Then the PBM jacks up
the price to the patient while
sharing the profits with the
parent company. Ultimately, what
a deal ultimately,
John C Dvorak: I'm all in
ultimately
Adam Curry: it's congress that's
to blame. And that's not going
to change because of all the
lobbying I mean bribes. Oh damn
greedy bastards. Okay, very
good. That's your boots on the
ground. You're screwed.
John C Dvorak: You're screwed.
And you will be forever forever.
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
courage saying good morning to
you the man who put the seat in
the cheating machine say hello
to my friend on the other end
the One Only Mr. Johnson
John C Dvorak: in the morning,
hello chips. Feet near subs in
the water under names and nights
out there we
Adam Curry: are well into the
Christmas holiday here Christmas
week which means the trolls will
be off and galavanting about
let's have a check. Oh no. 1741
This is not good. This is a very
low troll calm. We have low tea.
John C Dvorak: That's actually
not bad. We have I just want to
say we have been hundreds the
number we're shoot for on
Thursday. We have low Tuesday.
Adam Curry: We have low tea
though. We do have low today.
Today. Today's So, today's
Thursday, I think, today's
Thursday,
John C Dvorak: so 1750 is fine.
Okay.
Adam Curry: Thank goodness.
Thank goodness. Well, you can
join the trolls in the troll
room troll room.io also known as
no agenda stream.com It's a live
stream 24/7 It's pretty cool. We
got a lot of podcasts there a
lot of people doing live
podcasts, which you can enjoy
there with the streaming the
streaming audio. We
John C Dvorak: do that on the
Devorah core with some plugged.
Adam Curry: Yes. May I give you
props, by the way, for the
DeVore Ichor if you predicted
some kind of weird buy out with
with was a Disney no never is
covering. Yeah. And the next day
they announced that there's some
merger or something. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: well, no, they're
in talks with Paramount. Yeah,
Adam Curry: but you you called
it
John C Dvorak: astonishing.
Adam Curry: You got some weird
insider transaction that was
like, No, it's like it was a
screwball
John C Dvorak: one too. It was
weird. It was very strange.
Yeah, he had to go back listen
to the show you go.
Adam Curry: So yeah, so you can
hear DH unplugged on Tuesdays.
You guys go live what eight
o'clock? Eight o'clock Eastern
nine o'clock Eastern. I can't
remember what time What time is
it for you when you start? Seven
is 10 o'clock Eastern know that?
Oh, yeah. 1010 Eastern There you
go. Yeah, when seven o'clock?
Yeah, this is fun. I always love
listening to you guys. You know
nothing about Bitcoin, by the
way should stay away from that.
John C Dvorak: We know nothing
about Bitcoin we just don't like
Adam Curry: you don't like what
I know. I know. That's that's
very clear. So you can also and
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John C Dvorak: so now I want to
give a benefit out to one of our
longtime producers. And I don't
want to give his his email out
but I'm going to do it. Patrick
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Adam Curry: two pieces of advice
for Ben I think he's a service
you know thank you sir patch Oh
yeah, he said probably a barren
two piece of advice a put in
three years of AI experience
please just do it and just do it
just throw it in to consider
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My job this is a value for value
podcast. Speaking of value for
value, the I heard something
that you have not promoted yet
on this show, which I maybe you
felt that was out of place. But
it seems the success of too many
eggs.com there is now a new book
from gate view publishing, which
I believe is titled The ABCs of
stock investing.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there you
get the PDF there at gate view
publishing.com.
Adam Curry: Explain what it is
because I liked I like your
John C Dvorak: kids book. It's a
kids book with ABCs and each one
of the ABCs has some sort of
some some investment term for
kids. With illustrations with
illustration with a yeah
illustrations.
Adam Curry: Nice cute Um, I like
your little publishing Empire
you guys are putting together
John C Dvorak: yeah, there.
Yeah. And I would recommend, by
the way, since we're actually in
negotiations with another
publisher to do for the AIG book
for them to take over the
distribution rights, if that
happens, the I'm pretty sure on
this, I could talk him out of
it, the PDF will end up going
away. So I recommend, which I
think is I have my arguments for
why you should PDF all these
products. But
Adam Curry: you know, this
sounds suspiciously like an exit
strategy. Jhansi Dvorak?
John C Dvorak: No, no. And so
it's it's a, it's a tax
strategy. Oh, and so, anyway,
too many eggs.com that PDF file,
grab a copy just for your own
good, that's
Adam Curry: too bad. Because I
was thinking, Can we not do our
value for value book and have
that we're
John C Dvorak: gonna do it. It's
on the list. We got to do three
books next year. But
Adam Curry: can we export and we
don't have an exit strategy? Can
I can I do this? Wait a minute,
wait a minute. Can I do my own
old can I do my I was an MTV
guidebook. Can we absolutely
held hostage by my hair? You
know, stuff like that? Oh,
John C Dvorak: great title.
Adam Curry: Thank you. I want to
exit John, I've done we need to
be planning for the future.
John C Dvorak: Just the thought
well, with these kinds of
donations, which, for example,
we had this promotion I pitched
about earlier, the shelf.
Promotion was great. 1618. What
is it called? The Golden Golden
Ratio, Golden Ratio, he got a
total of three donations for
$16.18. A little less than, you
know, a typical promotion.
Definitely doesn't keep up with
the Ph. D. program.
Adam Curry: There was no But uh,
yeah, yeah, up me. I want this
face it. People don't like math.
They don't like the golden
ratio, like the golden ratio.
And that's okay. We've had other
flops, the golden ratio gets no
respect. So we have this whole
concept. I actually went on a
Twitter spaces the other day.
Oh, god, that was rough. You
know what I did at Twitter
spaces, spaces, spaces,
John C Dvorak: spaces.
Adam Curry: It's like a chat
room with on voice with a whole
bunch of people on Twitter. And
but I had to install the app.
John C Dvorak: It'd be dreadful.
Adam Curry: Well, you. Yeah, it
is. You have to install the app.
And then you get called up on
stage.
Unknown: Oh, God.
Adam Curry: I was explaining
value for value, which is always
fun. You said we've been doing
this for 16 years. So it works.
People get with the program.
Listen to our donation segment.
People love us. Then it's about
the feedback loop. You got to
get to read the notes. You got
to tell people you got to get to
thank people. It's very smart,
then it's not just money. It's
time talent or treasure. That's
the important part. Because we
technically have made more by
spending less. Now building
website, can you imagine if we
had to build our own website?
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Or
John C Dvorak: hire artists to
do the art of
Adam Curry: well, you You led me
right to it? Or how about a
combo of that? What if you had a
guy who built a place where
artists could upload? And, and
okay, so sometimes things go
wrong and it breaks. But Sir
Paul couture, not only did he
fix no agenda art generator.com
But he upgraded it. We can you
imagine the meeting we have to
have with our provider? Hey, we
would like a refresh of no
agenda art generator.com They'd
be piling on the bills. That
John C Dvorak: mean a million
dollar site if it was going to
be $6 million.
Adam Curry: Bev has to have
meetings all kinds of horrible
things we don't like and so what
do we get we get a beautiful new
site from Sir Paul
John C Dvorak: you know, what's
interesting about the site I'd
go say this now as far as I'm
concerned is original site was
fine. Because I'm one of those
it's fine. Yeah. graded it to
the headless Drupal wherever the
last one was, and it was just a
such an improvement. It was
unbelievable. And so then he
goes I said, Well, what do you
got? Why would you improve that?
Course you know me, I'm the one
with the divorce.org/and That's
Adam Curry: fine. Have blink
tags and red ball dark. I don't
have blink
John C Dvorak: or cats running
across the screen. But I could
imagine Yes, so did he upgrades
to this ridiculously modern site
is like beyond you. I mean, this
guy should be working for I
don't know who But IBM are some
was some big money outbreak. I
mean, it's so modern. It is
very, I mean, the other one was
modern. The one before that was
modern. But to keep up and make
it modern, on top of modern, and
if
Adam Curry: you notice little
things like the artists icon is
in there, you know, the artist
profile page shows up in the
artwork. It has just has all
kinds of metadata. Whoo, that's
expensive metadata is It is
phenomenal. And it's a little
slow. But I think that's just
you know, he'll be good
optimize. And it just it has
leaderboards, it has all the
artists profiles. You load up
the page, it shows you how many
images 31.1 1000 images, how
many artists 1400 artists?
John C Dvorak: This is great.
Oh, yes, every artist. Yeah,
Adam Curry: thank you, Sir Paul
couture. We really appreciate if
you see Paul, you know, go hug
him. Might give him a big hug.
He
John C Dvorak: needs it.
Adam Curry: Give him a hug.
Yeah, it took him a couple of
weeks. You know, he had the
crash last month. Yeah. But you
know what's beautiful about it?
We just like, okay, that's fine.
Because it's value for values.
Like you wouldn't have to get
mad. I'd have to be calling
John. Like you hired the guy.
You finish. You fix it.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's
actually what happens.
Especially with psychos like you
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, no,
call me a psycho. Okay.
John C Dvorak: This was reminds
me of the This is Adam back in
the day at at me, you know,
whatever was a bad show
originally. Okay, here we go
real casually smoking dope. He's
not in the office that much. But
he's there once in a while. So
he sent me this. He's very
lackadaisical. Yeah, even
people, you know, people should
put in a full day's work and I
don't see a big deal by coming
in on time. Or, you know, you
just gotta get in there. Do what
you have to do and and get out.
So one day we decided to go he
he decided to go in front of the
office. As people are coming in
late streaming in late. With him
standing there going us make it
smell dope.
Adam Curry: I was still smoking
dope, dope. Oh,
John C Dvorak: I'm glad you can
make it. Oh, did you check the
time? What what time? Is it? Oh,
good. I'm glad you could come
in. I'm glad you came in. And I
was giving him grief. And I
Adam Curry: was standing there
with you. We were I was
flabbergasted. It got to the
point where people just showed
up at noon. Like, come on
people. We have an office for
this is not COVID it was way
before COVID. Anyway, anyway,
John C Dvorak: by the way, the
mention of the of the Art
Generator brought it to its
knees once again. Of course.
Adam Curry: No agenda art
generator.com. Thank you, Sir
Paul couture. And thank you to
Dame Kenny Ben, who brought us
the outstanding artwork for
episode 1617. We titled that
torque in Russians, which we we
both thought that was a good
title. And the hohoho ozempic
Santa Claus that got lots of
traction. People thought that
was hilarious. That it was
hilarious. And it's not often
that you get such a compact,
beautiful, just a nugget of of
beauty. You know, with with it
was a takeoff it was a parody.
It was well, well illustrated.
It was the whole thing was was
professional. Again, something
we could never have afforded
you. Can you imagine Hey, can
you we got to this title is
torque and Russians, can you
whip up an image for us? That,
by the way, has nothing to do
with torquing? Russians? Oh,
what? You didn't listen to the
show? No, because what are
artists do? They're listening to
the show and they're doing the
stuff on the fly. It's amazing.
It is a true testament to value
for value. And we are incredibly
grateful to all of our artists.
Someone that said, You're being
performative.
John C Dvorak: When I say does
that mean? Well, nice regard it
Adam Curry: on the last show, I
said we'd like to thank that.
That's performative. Just say
thank you. That's a good point.
Politicians do that.
John C Dvorak: So thank you, if
you would like to say about
that.
Adam Curry: Yeah. That's another
one. Thank you, artists. Thank
thank all of you. And especially
Dame Kenny, Ben, we appreciate
you so much. Now let's go to the
treasure part of the value for
value model. This is where we
thank our executive and
Associate Executive producers
and everybody who supported us
with monetary donations up to we
are down to $50. And this is
really the stuff that keeps us
going and we start off with a
MCI we have a handwritten note
here from Emily Andrews, and she
is in Salina, Texas. And it come
up with a whopping 1465 I'm
loading her note which is
handwritten. And she says Dear
John, Adam, I last donated with
a shout out with a with a short
thank you and you guys seemed
Haven't seen something that the
note wasn't longer, though
seemed down the note was so
Okay, so she decided to write a
longer note. I'm writing the why
I originally heard about you
guys from mo fax. I really
appreciate listening to you guys
over COVID hearing about KNC
capital and getting some laughs
in about the state of affairs
instead of agonizing over yes
that's what we do. The check is
a percentage of my annual bonus
from my employer. Wow, that's
some tithing right there. That's
John C Dvorak: the way to do it.
Adam Curry: i Oh, what are we
drinking? Polar seltzer? Boring
brings up good next show. I
consider your show to be a
ministry and appreciate your
genuine efforts to shepherd the
divine flock God has brought to
your podcast Wow. For giggles I
listened to podcast one to 20
That's episode 120. Adam, I can
hear the evidence of work the
work God has done in you God
bless you both your sister in
Christ Emily Andrews. aihole He
was That's right. It's It's so
true. Notice I don't cuss? I've
stopped that.
Unknown: Yeah, well that's yeah.
Adam Curry: And and in fact,
people have noticed that you've
costing more
John C Dvorak: I because I think
there's a cuss cost balance ACUs
median that we have to achieve
to have the proper cost balance
Adam Curry: you have so there's
so many bright okay, I
John C Dvorak: didn't cuss on
today's show at all. No, you
did. And I usually just cut for
effect you cussed as part of
your vocabulary that was Yeah,
Adam Curry: I did it a lot
actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
John C Dvorak: Well we have your
I have I
Adam Curry: have people emailing
so thank you now I don't I can
listen around my kids again.
Except for that clip you brought
Thank you Emily. The kids love
their kids
John C Dvorak: understand
cutting jobs. Good luck with
that. Europe No, I'm sorry dude
named Ralph comes up next and
he's in with 550 which is nice
in Miami, Florida. John and Adam
thank you for the outstanding
work you do on no agenda the
magical combination of YouTube
and the incredible new agenda
producers make this show the
best podcast in the universe.
Inspired by something wise John
said I reviewed my donation
history and I happily discovered
that the PhD contribution also
contribute qualify me for title
of Baron I would like to be
known as the Baron dude name by
the way, just to stop right
here. There's a number of people
and there's a list of them on
the no agenda rings.com site
who've gotten there got the PhD
during the promotion is
promotions over and they've
never sent in the details of
where they want the diploma sent
or anything else Oh, please go
and do that. Before the printer
breaks inspired by blah blah
blah they can be known as barren
dude named after the suburban
South Florida. I would like
Mohit toes and let China Sato
Cuban style roasted pig for the
roundtable. I got it. I made two
Christmas donations today to
share 550 from a
Adam Curry: work bonus again
again work bonus beautiful work
bonus,
John C Dvorak: no agenda and
1618 for a show number donation
I humbly request jobs Carmody
Helton knows for a show number
donation and not that magic
circle. I humbly request jobs
comedy helped me as I embark on
the next chapter of my career
respectfully dude named Ralph.
Magic
Adam Curry: Circle is called the
Golden Ratio. Magic Circle jobs,
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
That's our money
Adam Curry: and we got Lacey be
in Lake Mills Wisconsin. 333 33
favorite donation number Merry
Christmas. Happy New Year to you
John Adam and to your better
halves, the back office, your
loved ones and all have no
agenda nation and jingle bingo
to the OBD M crossover crowd.
This donation puts me over the
mark to qualify as a dame the
title Dame Lucy will suffice. I
talk too much in real life. So I
keep this note short. Thank you
for your courage, love and light
to all Lacey B Lake Mills
Wisconsin. Thank you. Thank you
very much Lacey B.
John C Dvorak: Alright, so I
have to finally say hit it just
right. I have to take a quick
look at the note listener
Adam Curry: keep talking in the
mic though because you're
dropping out. I
John C Dvorak: am got CIM a
turbo turbo turbo Tim. Three,
three 3.33 And I don't have a
location for him. But I do have
a note which has been which is
which has been m turbo
handwritten note that on a piece
of Bri hole punch student paper
in Morning John and Adam. I
finally gotten my rear in gear
on and here I sent you to some
much deserved treasure please de
douche me.
Unknown: You've been de deuced I
just
John C Dvorak: realized that
episode 1617 adds up to 33. And
I'll be 33 on the 22nd of this
month. I knew it was time. Nice.
So that's interesting. We could
have cut that to 1617. Yeah,
another way when it made a
difference. Mike, the wood watch
guy introduced me to your show
about three years ago, I worked
for a forklift repair company in
Detroit for over eight years as
a mobile forklift and diesel
engine repair technician. It's a
good job. Yes, they kept getting
on my ass about my mask. So I
wrote in big letters. You're a
slave across the front and wore
it proudly to every customer
location as I went from, from
spark conversations, and wow
went to spark conversations and
spew truth for you, man. Yeah,
like that's ballsy. I quit after
refusing to take the jab and
started my own small forklift
and diesel truck repair business
then moved to Capek, Michigan
Hey
Adam Curry: pack a pack
John C Dvorak: the plan to so
electric the plan to go Electric
is hilarious because our world
literally functions because of
diesel. The EPA has had had an
American hold on has has a has a
hard on Oh harder for a diesel
but not in other countries.
Anyone who hears DPF def and
engine D rate will be triggered
by this totally crap they make
you put in the course. Yeah,
pigs urine. Yeah, pig urine.
Just yeah. Unbelievable. This is
my first start to knighthood.
And if I have any questions
about the diesel industry feel,
feel free to email me that's
nice. I bet you're doing very
well. In your little own your
own company. John is pronounced
K Pak. As Adam just told me,
please send it send the
sparkplug Oh, he sent Oh, he
sent to spark plug keychains Oh,
and he sent these little
trinkets. I have to say they're
pretty cute. But I didn't. I
didn't get mine. Because I have
it I have yours that people send
them to me and he they have to
wait till they accumulate and
they'll send you a box. And so
the whole package smelled like
every pair garage. And I snapped
I saved Chase if this guy if
this guy is a repairman. No
doubt about it.
Adam Curry: Let me give you a
little tip. If Jhansi Dvorak
ever comes up to you and says,
Hey, sniff this walk away. Walk
away. But you'd like that. Yes.
Well, that's cool, man. Thank
you so much. And I also want to
thank everyone who sent all
these beautiful things to the
PIO box. I got fudge I got the
coffee. I got the coffee from
those guys. Gigawatt gigawatt
guys
John C Dvorak: yeah the fudge
the Okay, the fudge came in who
I know of I don't have the note
here on the fudge. I got the
fudge fudge came in kind of as a
mess but I have to say this if
you can dig through there and
find the peanut butter divinity
Oh, okay. It border light border
this border line. Unbelievable.
Yeah, I believe Yeah, like makes
a Reese's peanut butter you
wouldn't ever have another one
Yeah, Google they Nailed it.
Nailed it. The rest of the stuff
is good but these the peanut
whoever that I like to get that
recipe
Adam Curry: I got sir scoops I
got your big box of of your your
pirate to your pirate show. I
got
John C Dvorak: stuff from
diesel.
Adam Curry: No, I didn't get it
from DS. I did get some death.
Death demand. No, no. Oh, yes.
Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, that's
right. Yeah, and start and
stickers and magnets and all
kinds of stuff. And I also got,
I got a huge pack from the
anonymous air traffic
controller. Oh, goodness. Oh,
goodness. I don't think he
should have sent me that stuff.
He's got stuff about see 130
shooting lasers down to the
ground. There really? Yeah. At
the FAA. You know, send out
memos like hey, you know if you
guys have every right to tell
the C 130 with a laser to not
shoot the laser. Alright.
Thanks. I got a pastor who says
thank you for not cussing, and
got Lindsey who says it's been a
joy to listen to the podcast
with my 11 year old now. It's
not as explicit as it used to Be
Thanks, John for that clip set
for the dog. But yeah. Well,
that's funny. That's funny. Just
so many things. Thank you all so
much. It was it was amazing to
go to the PIO box. I couldn't
believe all the stuff that that
everybody is sent to. So nice.
And also thank you to Ryan
Powell from Edward Washington.
333. By the way,
John C Dvorak: when one more
thing I wonder, do we ever think
the guy who sent us the flight,
the Air Force One jackets? Yeah,
yeah. Oh, we did. Oh, sure. We
just logged in as a dynamite
jacket. By the
Adam Curry: way his son got that
his son, son got those for us.
Yeah. Ryan Powell 333 says for
my wife's 50th birthday on the
18th so it's a switcheroo. I'm
still a douchebag but Christmas
is coming soon. Thanks, guys. So
he doesn't want to be do she
just wants it for his wife and
he doesn't give us her name. So
we'll just say Mrs. Powell.
John C Dvorak: Mrs. Powell. Mrs.
Powell. says what we'll do Eric
go wielka in Auburn, Alabama. I
ATM the citizen Adam and
citizens. John. I just had a pop
up hold on a second pop up.
Yeah. Pop Up. Outstanding show
he continues. Hope you have a
Merry Christmas and a Happy New
Year. So sure. Eric. That's a
great no for $333 How
Adam Curry: can you I haven't
had a pop up since 1988. It's a
system pop up. Oh, time to
reboot for more freedom on your
computer. Sir Nick, in
Waterford, Michigan 333 33. I'm
just trying to keep my delta
medallion. So I'm charging this
value for value donation to my
Amex. Please give the single and
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Well, we don't actually have a
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John C Dvorak: of last executive
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Adam Curry: That's a good one.
Thank you. Ivan Babic or Yvonne
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Adam Curry: And our final
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good for your life. Thank you
for producing episode 1618. John
is going to take us through the
50s
John C Dvorak: starting with Sir
Sir Shawn McCune 170 39 And he
is in the Allegheny Valley. Mark
Middleton in Safety Harbor,
Florida. 120 Dan Malley in
Fremont, California right down
the street 113 Scott Lapierre in
South Glastonbury, Connecticut
11235 I think he needs a B
douching.
Unknown: You've been D deuced.
John C Dvorak: Oh 1123 fives of
Fibonacci donation. Brian
Lillard and prosper Texas 8888.
Sir broth in Greenfield Park,
New York at 833.
Adam Curry: And he says please
break for a night major jobs
Carmen needed. We do break for
nights both my wife and I are
attempting to gain new
employment, sell our home and
move to the Free State of New
Hampshire away from New York
with a newborn. Much appreciated
Gen Z Yes. We'll do that in a
moment. Sir broth. Kevin
John C Dvorak: McLaughlin
Concord, North Carolina 808.
This is a boobs donation. Boobs
are the region region. glute
Boobs. Boobs are the reason that
we blush he writes. He says the
show 1615 Small boob donation
slogan was missing. Oh, not that
I know of. Sir Road Dog and Twin
Falls Idaho 808. Aaron Weinberg
in Roberts Wisconsin 806 s
lopsided boobs. Parker folse in
Roswell. New Mexico. Yes. 7777
Yes. Marshall Bennett and Hart
field Virginia 7545 is now a
knight Yes. And now you lessor
ball peen the hammer and he
wants a young lady young lager
and
Adam Curry: serve berserkers
head he's there you can grab it
yourself. I'm not gonna rip
John C Dvorak: it Amina bishop
in Mission BC mission BC Canada
75 Knees a couple of D douching.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: that one for her
and then we go to Eduardo Bishop
also in Mission BC $75. Another
D douching.
Unknown: You've been D deuced.
John C Dvorak: Kyle plus Pachi
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ask. Gotta know Hannibal,
Missouri 70 Sir Kevin O'Brien in
Chicago, our buddy in Chicago
606 small boobs with Kevin
McLaughlin 606 with a little
jingle or whatever you want to
call this. Boobs the eighth
wonder of the world. Know about
that? Okay, okay. Depends on the
boobs I think Tony Morrow in
Orlando, Florida 606 Axel Powell
in Linda vital Deutschland Lind,
Avital 60 Sir jab Java in
Elkton, Florida. 57 as a
birthday donation, Dean Roker
5510 Herbert Garrett in Raleigh,
North Carolina 5510 Brian Rogers
in Medford, New York. John you
seem to be a net he writes. We
don't read these notes normally.
John, you seem to be an expert
on native ads. I find it
interesting that every time you
open a can of polar all wore a
natural seltzer you talk about
it for exactly 30 seconds.
Coincidence? I think not. You
Adam Curry: taking deals on the
side man.
Unknown: I wish right?
John C Dvorak: You have cases of
this stuff gadget freaks 10 and
Western Springs, Illinois 50.
These are all 50s Now we're
gonna do 50s name and location,
starting with gadget frequent,
followed by Alexander vert de
Ho. In Gig Harbor, Washington,
Luke Olsen and Alexandria
Virginia. Coal quarry Bennett in
Denver, Colorado Scott lavandera
buddy in Montgomery, Texas,
Chris Cowan in Austin, Texas.
Fletcher Scaife, fat escapee in
Williston, North Dakota, Andrew
gusik. Sir Andrew B. exact in
Greensboro, North Carolina, Matt
Illingworth in Montclair, New
Jersey. Susan hunt in Leola
Pennsylvania needs a D douching.
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because we have some nice things
this is from Bernie Glyn he says
I nearly choked on my mac and
cheese recently when I
discovered that you clowns would
honor a knighthood status if I
paid in Australia Australian
dollars well easy with the mac
and cheese man since I've paid
well more than paid well more
than 800 US dollars over the
years which calculates to 1194
point 39 australian dollar
reduce I hereby claim knighthood
status yes that's correct. If
this makes me a black knight it
doesn't. I would like to I'd
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all you do keeping us sane. I'd
like to be anointed sir Fetta of
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century Sam blunt. Thanks from
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John C Dvorak: Chris atmosphere
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Chris or Christ
Adam Curry: or anything. It's
Chris palmos we think he goes by
Christ Chris but I think by
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Adam Curry: Yeah. And I think he
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Unknown: our formula is this. We
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Adam Curry: Ryan Powell wishes
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that's a nice one. I like that
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least come on up Bernie Glen
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Which was on the ones that that
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John C Dvorak: sure you got a
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Adam Curry: Okay, which one do
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John C Dvorak: Start with
decide.
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Hmm. Okay,
John C Dvorak: let's both be to
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Unknown: I'm here to save you.
Adam Curry: That's pretty good.
And I wouldn't say that normally
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Unknown: Christmas, you
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Adam Curry: Come on. Come on.
That's as winner written all
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Adam Curry: on. It's funny. It's
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Unknown: All right, now it's
time for
GDC
Adam Curry: good news,
everybody, John. Well, let's to
be more specific. Mimi has
scoured the internet finding
some news.
John C Dvorak: I have to get. I
have to sort through them. And
so I picked this one. This is a
woman who this is just one of
those heart. This is a good news
story about a woman who got
graduated and she and she
graduated with her baby with
her. And this was cute.
Unknown: And it was another
special graduation day at Ferris
State University over the
weekend. A woman graduated
walking across the stage with
her newborn baby nestled into
her now, Grace Szymczak was
supposed to have a C section
today. Actually, it said baby
girl Annabelle came 10 days
early. Grace said she had been
working hard at her degree in
early childhood education. She
wasn't letting anything stop her
from walking on graduation day.
That just meant she had
Annabelle strapped into her baby
carrier with her the whole time.
And
I kind of hope it inspires
another mom to like go back to
school and like show that she
can do it too. I hope to see her
walk across the stage one day to
whichever college or university
she chooses. without me having
to carry her and
she says baby Annabelle actually
did very well and did not fuss
the entire ceremony. Now Grace
will be teaching full time with
preschoolers at a strong
Beginnings program in Traverse
City. I
really give her a lot of credit.
You're
you talk to her. I
mean, she's pretty incredible.
I honestly I'm just shocked that
the newborn baby was calm that
entire ceremony because those
can be really long ceremonies.
That's very impressive. But what
a great memory for him really?
Oh,
Adam Curry: a great memory. And
it's so politically incorrect
because you know, it's a
birthing person, not a mom. So I
like that about the clip. I
thought that was excellent. And
you know, Jay was just that was
a wholesome clip. Very good. It
made me find that one. Did you
find that one?
John C Dvorak: She found that
one but there was something in
there that to me was
disconcerting that may or may or
disconcerting. disconcert it may
or may not be noticeable. But
how she has the baby 10 days
before she's scheduled to have a
C section. I
Adam Curry: know that's weird,
isn't it?
John C Dvorak: Say guy yeah,
you're gonna have weed looks
like this be your due date.
We're gonna give you a C
section. This is today's modern
hospital environment. They just
see sex. Money
Adam Curry: extra naughty women
money. Money is more money.
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John C Dvorak: get a man you get
him out. It costs more perfect.
Adam Curry: Another good news
story.
Unknown: A good news story from
JCD happy vibes for you and me.
And we all feel better. Now he's
done his bit. To back to
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Good
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Klaus I am checking my list to
see who is being naughty or
nice. According to ESG first
punishment will be for the
climate change deniers if you
are not eat Do not worry. We
will not put a lump of coal in
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by ESG. So we will just take
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gifts you will get nothing or be
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soy milk under ESG will be no
more cow milk wound of course no
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