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John C Dvorak: and going
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morning, everybody. I'm Adam
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curry
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John C Dvorak: in northern
Silicon Valley where everybody
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agrees that the NFL season is
too long. I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Wins the Super Bowl.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, a couple
months.
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Adam Curry: Oh, that's too long.
I thought it was January oh wait
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no January's the Oscar
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John C Dvorak: it used to be as
a matter of fact you like
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Adam Curry: remember I remember
used to be I knew that
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John C Dvorak: in us in February
March I think it's February You
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Adam Curry: bet you have you
read about that conspiracy about
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the the Super Bowl logo that you
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John C Dvorak: apparently Yeah,
yeah, so the coolers determine
1:06
who's gonna colors that are in
the new newly designed logo at
1:10
the beginning of the year the
colors of the teams that the
1:12
game
1:13
Adam Curry: Hey, your volumes. I
can jack you up here but you're
1:16
really outputting low. Did you
change something? Nope. Oh? Why
1:21
do I even ask?
1:22
John C Dvorak: What do you ask?
I never change anything because
1:24
I don't use this this whole rig
except once a week twice a week
1:27
Adam Curry: I'm just I'm just
gonna jack you up
1:30
John C Dvorak: that day it's
regular. It's not
1:33
Adam Curry: but okay. It is. I'm
going to jack you up here I can
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jack you up here but that you
normally I have you plus two dog
1:39
biscuits now I've got yet five
so just saying
1:46
John C Dvorak: baby it's the
connection. No, it's not the
1:50
connection. The connection it
could be it could be clean feed
1:54
connection is protection.
1:58
Adam Curry: Yeah, sure. What do
you got no protection here. This
2:02
thing is no good. Oh, anyway, so
it's okay I just jacked you up a
2:05
bit. I just wanna make sure you
educate the gate man. Well, well
2:10
well well well, it was very hard
for the M five M to admit what
2:13
was really going on. What's
going on now about this hole.
2:18
This hole in the plane there's a
hole in the plane. The
2:21
John C Dvorak: hole hole in the
plane there's a whole lot of way
2:24
they made it when they first
when this story first appeared.
2:26
I don't have any clips. You
probably do I do. Or maybe I do.
2:29
I don't think I do. But whatever
the case, when they first showed
2:33
the shot of it from the inside
of the plane, they made it sound
2:36
like the sight of the plane just
flew like a hole. Yeah, like a
2:40
window and it is a door. It was
a it was a door assembly. That's
2:45
the point. And they never
mentioned this until later
2:50
reports Exactly. And what's
going on, you must have some
2:55
sides on Sunday. I do first
2:56
Adam Curry: Let's Play. The most
recent update
2:58
Unknown: flight 1282 carrying
177 passengers was 35 minutes
3:03
into its journey from Oregon to
Ontario, California. When part
3:07
of the fuselage was torn off
leaving a hole in the side of
3:10
the aircraft. The pilot was
forced to alert aircraft control
3:14
to the severity of the
situation. We are depressurized
3:17
but we do need to return back
passengers spoke of hearing for
3:21
emergency oxygen masks dropped
video footage shot on board
3:25
shows the dangling masks and a
huge gap where the window should
3:29
have been and the passengers
themselves being remote when
3:33
I look to my left and there's
this huge chunk part of the
3:36
airplane just like missing and
extremely loud there's wind
3:41
blowing everywhere so it was a
3:44
trip from the plane landed
safely at Portland to the relief
3:48
of all on board among them even
Smith
3:51
there's not anything I have any
control over it's just wait and
3:54
see what happened and they said
there was a kid in that row who
3:57
his shirt was sucked off him and
this
4:00
Adam Curry: this everyone had
this bit and the shirt was
4:03
sucked I'm I'm I'm going to
question that part of the
4:07
report.
4:08
John C Dvorak: Like there was
that and then the other one
4:10
which a lot of the way I have a
report for PBS I have the PBS
4:14
version from yesterday if you
want to play it the other thing
4:18
that kept throwing they kept
throwing into the mix was the
4:21
cell phones
4:22
Adam Curry: Yes. Cell cell
phones flew out
4:26
John C Dvorak: now watch I
questioned that because who's
4:29
nobody's on their cell phone on
these on these?
4:31
Adam Curry: Everybody's on their
cell? When's the last time you
4:34
flew? Book COVID We everyone's
on their cell phone everybody.
4:40
They're watching movies to play
in games. If coma
4:44
John C Dvorak: if you're
watching movie Yeah, then you
4:45
wouldn't have on their phones.
John,
4:48
Adam Curry: please. Like these
days there's no inflight
4:51
entertainment. You get what you
connect to the Wi Fi you can
4:55
either pay for the Internet, or
you can watch the movies on your
4:58
phone. You need three laptops.
When do you need to get out
5:02
you're gonna grab a house and
going nowhere.
5:05
Unknown: Late today the FAA
ordered the temporary worldwide
5:09
grounding of about 171 Boeing
737 Max nines until the planes
5:15
can be inspected. It comes after
a window blew out of a month's
5:18
old 739 Max nine last night at
about 16,000 feet six minutes
5:24
after the Alaska Airlines Flight
took off from Portland, Oregon.
5:27
The rapid depressurization
sucked a t shirt off a child. No
5:32
one was seriously hurt in the
plane. They that emergency
5:34
landing safely back in Portland.
5:36
Adam Curry: How come no one
interviewed the mom of that they
5:40
got everybody, everybody they
interviewed but they don't have
5:43
the mom with a kid whose t shirt
got sucked. I would
5:45
John C Dvorak: think that would
be one person to interview in
5:47
the second one. This report just
came out yesterday. This is from
5:50
yesterday's PBS weekend news
hour. And again, it sounded like
5:55
a window blew out when it was an
entire door assembly. Well, yes,
5:59
this. So first, what is the
reason for covering that up?
6:04
Well,
6:05
Adam Curry: because it's really
the airlines who have made
6:10
determinations about your
safety. And this comes from our
6:13
buddy Joe over there to NL Ria,
which is airline backwards, I
6:18
have a hardest time remembering
that URL, I have to look up his
6:22
email every single time en
ILRIA. Airline reverse. Anyway.
6:29
And Neil RIA B says, okay, he
says it was a door plug that
6:34
came off. Because Alaska
Airlines with every other single
6:38
airline sip, I think there's
one, there's one, one of the low
6:43
cost European carriers, when
they receive these planes brand
6:48
new, they have determined by
law. And I don't know when this
6:52
was or by FAA regulation don't
know when this was determined
6:56
that you only need one emergency
exit per 50 seats. So these
7:03
planes come equipped with an
emergency door right there where
7:07
the hole blew out. But then they
modified these planes after they
7:12
come off the assembly line. So
they can put in a couple extra
7:15
seats. And the door plugs that
that hold that horse hold that
7:21
assembly in place minus the
slide minus all you know all the
7:25
stuff that you would normally
have there. If the door plug
7:29
they should never blow out
because this the door plug is
7:31
that basically a fake door
that's been put in there. And it
7:35
should never blow out because of
its design, which is concave.
7:40
But this plane had previous
pressurization problems. Oh,
7:44
they didn't mention that in the
report. Good work PBS. Good work
7:48
BBC. So either they over
pressurized or they may have
7:54
been which could have been for
passenger comfort 16 16,000
7:58
feet, you're pressurizing it
that well you're pressurizing
8:00
pretty quickly actually. So over
pressurization that may be they
8:05
they under pressurized, and the
thing just blew right out. But
8:08
it's all in. So it's pilot
error, probably. Or aircraft
8:15
air. That's possible. But the
bottom line is, this should just
8:19
be an emergency door there. The
way it comes off the assembly
8:22
line, just to squeeze in a few
extra seats. They might they're
8:27
approved, of course. But if you
have a hole in the plane, where
8:31
you have a door, it comes off
the assembly line like that.
8:34
Maybe it would be modified them
upfront. Instead of putting a
8:39
door plug in there. That's
really That's it makes no
8:42
John C Dvorak: sense. Yeah. Boy,
they don't care
8:44
Adam Curry: about you. They
don't care. They don't care
8:47
about your safety at all, at
all. So that's really what what
8:52
happened is, you know, this is a
modified plane where they put a
8:57
plug in there instead of the
door I will never sit next to
9:00
that spot ever in any plane if
the if I know it's there, which
9:04
you'd have to know because you
can't really tell. And so the
9:07
reason that the fact that they
really didn't talk about a door
9:10
in most of the reports was to me
a little suspicious
9:15
John C Dvorak: and no one that
is very suspicious because when
9:18
you see the side of the plane
when they find it door did show
9:22
that it's a door I
9:24
Adam Curry: know I know. I love
that so this news model had some
9:29
melts on her mind. You know the
news now Alaska Airlines
9:32
Unknown: is grounding its fleet
of 736 Nine Max
9:35
Adam Curry: jets after are
really 736 Nine. Is that what
9:39
you're thinking of? What are the
gaff that is how do you get from
9:43
737 Max nine to 736 Nine.
9:48
John C Dvorak: I may have heard
that a couple of times myself.
9:51
Maybe there's just a bunch of
jokers.
9:54
Adam Curry: Maybe Maybe whatever
the case all the board
9:57
Unknown: trains good planes At
10:04
Adam Curry: the end, just
because it was a female pilot
10:07
doesn't mean anything. In fact,
it's probably the first officer
10:10
who monitors pressurization. But
there's lots of stuff going on
10:15
with these dei hires and we've
talked about it. You know, we
10:19
know that a lot of ex navy and
air force pilots can't get a job
10:24
because the after they after
they leave service because you
10:27
have to either be gay black or
female to get a job. If that's
10:32
what all the airlines are hiring
em. And this is this was a
10:37
someone on on X was was exiting,
slashing tweeting to United
10:42
Airlines, because this person
knows what's going on with with
10:46
aviation. On July 29, the United
States or at Hey, at United on
10:51
July 29, United plane was nearly
totaled after a hard landing who
10:55
was flying that aircraft? Was it
the co pilot, a former flight
10:58
attendant who was fired and then
rehired through United's dei
11:01
program, despite being enlist
and not returned to United? Am I
11:05
correct that this individual
failed multiple trainings,
11:07
including simulator training? Am
I also correct that United has
11:10
covered up this dei disaster and
many others? was the number two
11:14
at the Denver hiring center also
onboarded through Dei, did she
11:18
or did she not change fit?
Failed grades for dei hires
11:22
because quite quote, it makes
the numbers look bad. Didn't the
11:25
instructor who failed this co
pilot asked corporate why they
11:28
passed him. This is this is a
disaster that's going on. Of
11:34
course we know all the ATC guys
are stoned and drunk. They told
11:37
us ourselves I have dad's Great.
So now therefore some people on
11:42
the trains that's what that's
always how it winds up get on
11:46
the train. So you've learned
something here, you can sound
11:51
smart now at the watercooler
tomorrow. When everyone's
11:55
talking about other stuff, you
can say you know what, that was
11:57
an actual door and they take
that door out because they want
12:00
to jam more seats in what that's
that's a safety issue. That's
12:06
what they should be looking at.
Not anything else. But of
12:10
course, you know, let's let's
ground. Let's ground the whole
12:13
fleet. And I'm sure I'm sure
it's a problem. modifying it
12:20
after the fact. So there you go.
You're up to speed.
12:24
John C Dvorak: Sounds like it.
12:26
Adam Curry: Let's just do
something completely completely
12:29
off topic from news because I
was so I was so excited to get
12:33
this clip this morning. Normally
or passed away last year, and we
12:40
know that Norman Lear was part
of the Hollywood he he started
12:43
the Hollywood Foundation, which
created a lot of propaganda
12:49
John C Dvorak: that was actually
called the Norman Lear
12:51
foundation. Was it called
12:52
Adam Curry: the I thought it was
the Hollywood I thought it was
12:54
the Hollywood foundation. Are
you sure Miller Yeah. Hmm.
13:00
Because we have a clip of
13:02
John C Dvorak: the Hollywood
found anything there is a
13:04
Hollywood foundation
13:07
Adam Curry: let me see
foundation. Foundation Hollywood
13:10
that's what it is. Hola, Leah
foundation Hollywood. Oh, no,
13:13
I'm sorry. Right. Lear
Foundation, Hollywood. That's
13:15
what it was. Health and Society.
So we've talked about Norman
13:22
Lear how influential his his his
programming was. And I would say
13:28
that we always thought the most
influential was all in the
13:31
family, which really created
this Archie Bunker archetype,
13:35
which would have been a
traditional Democrat back in the
13:39
day but was positioned as a
Republican and that really
13:41
changed certainly the United
States his image of what a blue
13:47
collar Republican looks like,
right?
13:50
John C Dvorak: was when there
was no such thing there was no
13:53
Adam Curry: well he created that
he created that Magga Archie
13:56
Bunker, oh gee Maga. So Desmond
Wilson. Most people won't know
14:01
his name. He was Lamont on
Sanford and Son, legendary
14:07
legendary show with red fox.
That was what it was called
14:12
right Sanford and Son. They ran
a junkyard together he got it.
14:16
And so Desmond Wilson is
interviewed by some podcaster
14:20
because he was asked a question
about Norman Lear by some M five
14:25
M guy and so yet he's he's got
something his craw about Norman
14:28
Lear. And in this relatively
short clip, he lays out just a
14:32
little bit more of the genius of
Norman Lear. What was
14:35
Unknown: it? What was the main
point you were trying to make
14:38
clear about Norman Lear that he
wasn't involved with Sanford and
14:40
Son as much he was given credit
for it was that the main
14:43
thing was what a lot of people
missed. I said, when I saw the,
14:50
when my agent called me and
said, watch the show. I said, I
14:53
don't want to do television, as
I said, and I watched the show I
14:58
came away thinking So this is
the beginning of the dissolution
15:04
of the patriarchal system. And
on the heels of that, the
15:08
announcer tried to cut me off.
So let me let me finish. Because
15:12
on the heels of that came
married with children, and then
15:15
all of a sudden parents became
idiots and kids became all
15:19
knowing women, young women
started calling their mother bi
15:22
tch word and rebelling. And it
all started normally. I said,
15:27
they asked me what I said, I
will say this about him. He was
15:30
a visionary. Right. But then
when I heard about his political
15:35
affiliations, it all fell into
place. And I knew that I knew I
15:40
was right on the money. No, I
said, it went on, on and on and
15:44
on ad infinitum. And what we're
experiencing now is the
15:47
evolution of what Norman Lear
started with all in the family
15:51
and nobody got it. They missed
it. Totally. They said all the
15:54
bonds talking about Northern
didn't hurt. I said, people have
15:58
been so dumbed down. Like
Malcolm said, some of us were
16:01
going to have to leave behind
the to YouTube, brainwashed to
16:05
understand
16:06
Adam Curry: Demin Wilson, not
Desmond Desmond Wilson. I just
16:10
love that. I never considered
that it started with Sanford and
16:14
Son makes so much sense.
16:20
John C Dvorak: Well, he himself
said to start with all in the
16:22
family. Right,
16:23
Adam Curry: but it was yes. All
in the Family. But really the
16:27
when, when the child parent
relationship broke apart was
16:33
Sanford and Son married with
children? We forget that one.
16:37
Yeah, that wasn't Norman Lear.
No, but it was a follow on and
16:40
it was the it was the whole
start of everything. It
16:44
John C Dvorak: was the extreme
version of everyday lives to
16:49
this day. I think married with
children is a cake is a curious
16:53
genius level of programming.
16:56
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Everyone
loves it. Dads, we're proud of
17:00
beyond like Ted Bundy. I sit
there with my hand in my pants,
17:03
watching the TV. People loved it
was great. Yeah, the Little did
17:08
you know, Little did you know.
I'll just stick with
17:14
transgenderism. First.
17:15
John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
it was just it's just before you
17:17
change the subject completely.
I'm not the new networks that
17:23
have evolved from the open air
digital system. And if you get
17:30
OTA antennas, there's me TV,
meaty b two, there's antenna.
17:37
There's a bunch of these
networks. And they've got
17:40
they've got no programming.
They're not going to do any. But
17:43
there is so much stuff in the
can that they're recycling it.
17:47
So the public at large is
getting to watch old black and
17:52
white material from the late 50s
and mid 60s, including Ozzie and
17:58
Harriet. And Leave It to Beaver.
And the shows which have a
18:03
completely different mentality
than any of the programming that
18:06
came after Norman Lear. Right.
And it's fascinating to watch
18:11
some of these old dog shows that
are, you know, some many of them
18:15
are put together. Especially
Leave It to Beaver. They're put
18:19
together so so beautifully by
producers back then who really
18:24
knew what they were doing. As
opposed to the kind of the slop
18:28
that comes out today. It's it's,
it's, it's very contrast the I
18:32
don't know what effect that's
going to have on the American
18:34
psyche, but it's going to have
something
18:37
Adam Curry: I like to the two
shows I like but there's one
18:39
that I can't find any more
really, but the one that I like
18:42
on OTA is Gunsmoke guns
guestbooks on
18:46
John C Dvorak: on a couple of
channels. Yeah. Guk Well, of
18:48
course, heroes and icons, I
think is that channel.
18:51
Adam Curry: How about Little
House on the Prairie?
18:54
John C Dvorak: Lots of the
praise on I
18:56
Adam Curry: have not seen it
What's that on? Where can I find
18:58
I love little I can't remember
which which
19:00
John C Dvorak: was one of the
networks is one of these screwy
19:03
networks. I love Little House on
the Prairie I read the show was
19:06
the worst. I hated Little House
on the Prairie. And the fact
19:10
that is on now. makes you mad.
Hate It makes me mad. It's so
19:15
stupid. No,
19:17
Adam Curry: but it was
beautiful. If Have you ever read
19:20
the books? No course not this
good books that Laura Ingalls
19:24
wrote this about the Pioneer. I
mean, it was not the same as the
19:29
TV show. Paul, the man those
that it was hard times back in
19:36
the day. Well, yeah, when they
were settling, settling the
19:40
West. Yeah, that's good stuff.
But a group, the who I don't
19:46
know if it started in the US,
but there's a British group. Now
19:49
just I want to stick a stick in
the trans Maoism which of course
19:52
Norman Lear had a hand in as to
where we are today. But I find
19:58
this so peak woke And so
disturbing that this has now
20:03
taken the UK by storm.
20:07
Unknown: Drag syndrome is
celebrating their big premiere
20:10
in Berlin. They're Britain's
first professional drag
20:14
collective for performers with
Down syndrome.
20:25
The feeling I get from
performing if the more my sales
20:31
Hey, I'm Nick, aka initiates a
cold day with Nikita
20:38
Adam Wilde, aka
20:43
loyal lady, to those who work
and show off Gaga.
20:49
Adam and the other members of
drag syndrome take on different
20:52
persona has went on stage and
for them, it's a rebellion
20:56
against society, and a statement
for more diversity and inclusion
21:01
for people with disabilities.
Plus, it's a whole lot of fun.
21:06
Since the group was formed in
2018, the members have toured on
21:09
several continents. They've also
performed at the famous
21:13
Glastonbury Festival. And for
the fashion magazine vote, it's
21:18
still rare to see people with
Down syndrome performing on
21:21
stage. The dance collective
wants to encourage other people
21:26
with disabilities to pursue
their passion.
21:30
Adam Curry: This really disturbs
me, I've worked with all kinds
21:33
of Downey end
21:34
John C Dvorak: of civilization
you're playing a clip by the
21:38
way, instead of doing that the
show begin knighted pilots.
21:43
Adam Curry: What what did you
say?
21:46
John C Dvorak: I said he should
be united pilots.
21:49
Adam Curry: A good one. So, you
know, I've worked with Downey's
21:53
in a lot of different situations
as the called Downey's by the
21:55
way and a lot of situations. And
I'm sure that they love
22:00
performing but I'm pretty sure
they're not necessarily drag
22:04
queens people who need to
perform as women which is
22:08
usually gay men. Usually. It's
you know, it's this is just
22:12
making a mockery. It's so woke
and so yeah, exactly. They
22:17
should just put them up to up in
the cockpit. If you want them on
22:20
stage and drag have them fly
around. The I worked with a very
22:24
famous Dutch Downey band called
The juste band never tell the
22:29
story. Nope, they use the band J
O S T, I can look it up. They're
22:33
still around the just the band
uresti And so they would perform
22:37
they they would perform it I
think I was doing a drive in DJ
22:40
show or something and they were
there and and the way that
22:45
certainly the the keyboardist
they had a couple of keyboardist
22:49
they on their keys they had all
colors you know, so they they
22:53
would hit the right colors
orange, blue, yellow, you know,
22:56
no know what to play so they
could remember what they're
22:59
playing. But this particular
gig, they had a confetti cannon
23:05
this confetti cannon goes off
this confetti everywhere. They
23:07
didn't know what keys to hit
anymore. It was it was all over
23:11
everything had all these
different little colored balls
23:13
on it. Good times with the
Downey's okay. So anyway, I just
23:20
found this disturbing end of
civilizations it Yeah, it's
23:23
right or being it's disturbing.
23:26
John C Dvorak: Yeah, like freak
shows. Yeah, that's
23:29
Adam Curry: exactly this like to
the bearded lady. Yeah. And
23:36
John C Dvorak: in a lot more of
that. Anyway,
23:38
Adam Curry: the 18 for you, the
18 foot man with the mitten with
23:42
his midget wife. Oh, my
goodness. So where do you want
23:50
to go? I mean, there's been
obviously been a lot of
23:52
political news in the United
States, mainly, Trump and Biden.
23:58
Biden. Did his big January 6.
Commemoration speech on January
24:06
5, which Yeah, that sounds right
was just completely lame. He was
24:10
definitely jacked. But he wasn't
overjoyed not over jacked but I
24:15
did by chance have dinner with
some friends of who are in the
24:18
medical field here I don't want
to take it too far. And I said
24:21
what do you think he was jacked
up on with without skipping a
24:25
beat? You know my my man says
Adrenochrome No, yes. And I say
24:33
Drina comb really that easy?
Yes. in powder form. You can get
24:36
Adrenochrome in the United
States powder.
24:39
John C Dvorak: You can people
should look up Audrina Chrome in
24:42
the wicked people.
24:43
Adam Curry: Yeah, he says that
and probably some Parkinson
24:46
drugs, which can it's like
epinephrine like on steroids,
24:51
epinephrine and steroids is but
he said Adrenochrome Parkinson's
24:56
drugs. He says you got to be
careful because you can take it
24:58
too far but he's deaf. Only
jacked up on that. And it but
25:02
the first thing you said was,
yeah, is that this is not the
25:05
old Biden, this is a different
Biden, which I also thought
25:08
looking at his hair. This hadn't
been did we lose the original
25:13
Biden? This guy doesn't look
like him anymore?
25:18
John C Dvorak: Well, that's a
good question. He really
25:20
possible I mean, I mean,
obviously we've seen enough
25:22
movies that know that this is
always in the script.
25:28
Adam Curry: Doesn't really look
like the like, well, he's
25:30
John C Dvorak: still got to st
might be when did we lose him?
25:34
No. Do we lose him after the
original election? Because he
25:37
still has the same cadence and
he still has the same? No, no,
25:41
I'm not kidding. No joke, not a
joke. When when they applause
25:46
and it's like he's triggered
when there is an applause line.
25:49
Yeah, that was the real say, No,
I'm not kidding. No joke. He
25:53
Adam Curry: didn't say that at
all this
25:54
John C Dvorak: time. Did he?
Yes, he did. I don't have a I
25:57
didn't bring a copy with me. But
he did. He did the firt. The
26:01
first round of applause he got
he says, No, I'm not kidding.
26:06
Okay. And I was thinking about
why does he say that? If you're
26:09
a politician, and you get a
round of applause. Have you been
26:13
getting rounds of applause over
the years? For people telling
26:17
you to just move along? Like
their words? You said something?
26:20
They get? Yeah, yeah. Clap,
clap, clap. Go on to the next
26:23
topic. Yeah. So they're not
taking you seriously. Because
26:28
he'll say, seriously, right.
When it gets a round of
26:31
applause.
26:31
Adam Curry: I think we lost the
OG Biden in the basement. Don't
26:36
you think that's where it?
Where'd he the switch happened?
26:41
John C Dvorak: Well, it's
definitely the same Biden that
26:43
got elected. And whether this is
the original Biden, the real the
26:49
real Dubberly, Joe Biden, who is
a real kind of a wise acid, a
26:57
snarky, yes. As opposed to the
Joe Biden, who has hairy legs. I
27:03
got hairy legs, that Joe Biden,
I think the Joe Biden was
27:06
swapped out before the election.
If you're new to the new,
27:10
remember this show in our show,
we played the drunk not drunk.
27:13
Yes, yes. Yeah, we play Biden
clips. And those Biden clips are
27:17
reminiscent of what we're
hearing today.
27:19
Adam Curry: If you're new to the
no agenda show, don't worry. It
27:21
gets better. It does. I'm new to
the show and they're already
27:25
talking about to Biden's I don't
know, man. Have a couple of
27:30
packages here. Of of his speech.
This is a roll these out ABC.
27:38
Unknown: Tonight in his first
major speech of the election
27:41
year, President Biden made the
case Donald Trump is an
27:44
existential threat to our
democracy.
27:47
This is the first national
election since January 6,
27:50
insurrection placed a dagger at
the throat of American democracy
27:53
since
27:54
Adam Curry: not the worst, some
there's some good writing I
27:56
liked dagger at the throat of
American democracy. as writing
28:00
goes if I were writing for him,
I kind of liked that one. That
28:03
moment.
28:05
Unknown: We all know Donald
Trump is question we have two
28:08
answers who are way?
28:11
Adam Curry: Another interesting
line? Who are we? I think that's
28:16
I think that's well thought out.
Of course, when he says I'm
28:20
like, I don't know you're one of
the two Biden's That's what's at
28:23
stake.
28:24
Unknown: Through our way. Biden
28:26
traveling to Valley Forge,
Pennsylvania, and woking, George
28:29
Washington's words to his troops
at the dawn of the American
28:32
Revolution, a sacred
28:34
cause that was a phrase used a
sacred cause. freedom, liberty,
28:40
democracy. Today, we're here to
answer the most important
28:43
questions. Is democracy still
America's sacred cause? Now,
28:51
John C Dvorak: this was never
they know, it wasn't democracy.
28:54
The sacred code of liberty?
Isn't that he says that to
28:57
buddy. He has this thing about,
you know, they're trying to push
29:00
this idea, this democracy idea.
And they're pushing it by trying
29:05
to keep Trump off the ballot, or
try to arrest him. I think
29:09
that's fascinating that everyone
goes along with this. But the
29:15
hours listen about democracy,
and besides that they were they
29:18
hated democracy they wanted
that's why they became a
29:20
republic. Yes.
29:21
Adam Curry: But that but that's
the SIOP. And I wonder if that's
29:25
still lands, it's so it's almost
like saying, Hitler. It's so
29:29
overused democracy, democracy,
democracy is like how do we even
29:32
lose democracy? Something we
never had start with, but how do
29:34
you lose it? And then and that
was our sacred what do you what
29:38
do you say exactly that was our
sacred sacred cause? Maybe.
29:42
Unknown: freedom, liberty
democracy. Today we're here to
29:46
answer the most important
questions. Is democracy still
29:50
America's sacred cause? I
29:53
Adam Curry: think we need to ask
ChaCha btw Can I be assisting?
30:03
Yes. Let's see. So, chat GPT.
The question is, what is
30:07
America's sacred? Sacred? Cause?
Is that what he said? Yeah, is
30:12
America's sacred cause? Let's
see chat. GPT says the concept
30:18
of sacred cows can be subjective
and interpreted blah, blah,
30:20
blah. Some of the core values
Declaration of Independence,
30:24
constitutional values, freedom
and freedom and democracy.
30:27
Number three. Down at the bottom
number five American dream
30:33
that's almost off the list. It's
no it's not even in the top
30:36
three.
30:38
John C Dvorak: Just getting by
by overtaking Biden
30:41
Unknown: accusing Trump of using
violence to clean to power,
30:44
Trump exhausted every legal
avenue available to him to
30:48
overturn the election. Everyone
but the legal path just to Trump
30:54
back to the truth. Okay, that I
had won the election and he was
30:58
a loser.
31:02
Adam Curry: The president you
know, the the the script writers
31:05
like, yeah, this will really get
his goat. We'll call him a
31:08
loser. He hates it when we do
that. Yeah, yeah, put it in.
31:11
That's good, that
31:12
Unknown: I'd won the election
and he was a loser.
31:17
The President reminded Americans
what Trump told that crowd on
31:20
January 6,
31:21
he told the crowd to fight like
hell, and all hell was
31:25
unleashed. The whole world
watched in disbelief. And Trump
31:30
did nothing was among the worst
dereliction of duty by a
31:34
president in American history.
The
31:37
President warning if Trump wins
re election, the worst could be
31:40
yet to come. Trump's
31:42
not concerned about your future,
I promise you. Trump is now
31:46
promising a full scale campaign
of revenge and retribution. His
31:51
words?
31:52
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was kind
of weak. Hey, you know, I was
31:55
looking at those Rangers or
whatever. They were at the
31:57
monument. Did you see any of
that footage?
32:00
John C Dvorak: No, I did not.
32:02
Adam Curry: So I guess there. It
seemed like park rangers. They
32:05
had like Park Ranger hats on. It
could have been but they gotta
32:09
like long hair dudes was really
long hair that didn't sit right
32:12
with me. Sure. It
32:13
John C Dvorak: wasn't women. No,
no. No.
32:17
Adam Curry: It was just like,
huh. No tattoos everywhere,
32:20
which is okay, I guess that's
permissible. But when you think
32:23
of park ranger, you're thinking
of a guy that's, you know,
32:25
that's, that's got a buzz cut.
32:29
John C Dvorak: Oh, you're not?
32:30
Adam Curry: I don't Yeah, well,
you don't think of a guy with a
32:32
mullet?
32:33
John C Dvorak: I think a guy
that's what I would think. Yeah,
32:35
the guy is a park guy to do nice
about nature a man there's this
32:40
chipmunk.
32:42
Adam Curry: But that's not the
guy you put up front and center
32:46
is? No, no, no.
32:49
John C Dvorak: We have to get
anyone else you get your dei
32:52
issue here we
32:53
Adam Curry: have. We have BIA.
That's true. We have park
32:56
rangers in and get my nation so
they'll let us know. Shorter
33:02
report from NBC
33:03
Unknown: tonight the Supreme
Court announced that it'll hear
33:05
whether former President Trump
can be banned from the ballot in
33:08
Colorado because of his role on
January 6, taking up the
33:12
Republican front runners appeal
of a Colorado courts ruling to
33:15
kick him off the ballot. Mr.
Trump arguing it's partisan
33:18
election interference. The
announcement coming just hours
33:21
after President Biden visited
the Revolutionary War site at
33:24
Valley Forge. Arguing democracy
is at stake in November. This
33:29
is not rhetorical academic or
hypothetical. We
33:32
Adam Curry: know the
significance of the
33:33
Revolutionary War Memorial. It
what is that trying to tell us
33:38
that we're about to have a
revolutionary war against
33:41
something and then some China
what are we what is the point?
33:47
John C Dvorak: That's when
America at that point is by it
33:50
might have it might be a point
to with somebody like Biden,
33:53
who's at? Yes, it is pointless.
It's totally pointless to the
33:58
general public has been dumbed
down don't even know it. I would
34:02
say if you went on the street
and ask people what was Valley
34:04
Forge? Who was valley where it
was Valley Forge or anything,
34:07
you'd get a zero?
34:09
Unknown: Yeah. For the democracy
is still America sacred cause
34:12
Adam Curry: it's there it is.
Democracy is still our sacred
34:15
cause. It's not even on that not
even number one on the list.
34:17
Unknown: Joe is the most urgent
question of our time.
34:20
Adam Curry: It's the press
question is not just a question,
34:23
the most urgent question.
34:25
John C Dvorak: How does he go
from? It's a sacred cause? And
34:28
it's a question.
34:29
Adam Curry: Yes. Well,
34:30
John C Dvorak: how is it a
question,
34:32
Unknown: most urgent question of
our time.
34:34
It's the president's latest
efforts to draw a contrast with
34:37
Mr. Trump, who he's warning is
an existential threat. You know
34:40
Trump
34:41
in his Maga supporters not only
embrace political violence, but
34:44
they laugh about it. He
34:46
Adam Curry: trumpet his Maga
supporters that that's like
34:49
deplorable level. statement
calling is Magga support
34:53
Unknown: Mr. Trump in Iowa
firing back.
34:55
That's why crooked Joe is
staging is pathetic fear
34:59
mongering. campaign event in
Pennsylvania today. Did you say
35:02
you say I'm a threat to
democracy? He's a threat to
35:07
democracy.
35:10
Adam Curry: I think it's good
NBC put that in. And then
35:13
finally, yes, CBS.
35:18
Unknown: Kicking off the
election year in battleground
35:20
state, Pennsylvania, President
Biden directly attacked his once
35:24
and potentially future foe,
35:26
America. As we began this
election year, we must be clear,
35:31
democracy is on the ballot. Your
freedom is on the ballot.
35:37
The President rarely invokes
Trump's so directly. Trump's
35:40
assault on democracy isn't just
part of his past. It's what he's
35:44
promising for the future.
Trump's not concerned about your
35:47
future, I promise you. Trump has
now promised a full scale
35:52
campaign of revenge and
retribution. There's no
35:55
confusion about who Trump is,
what he intends to do.
35:59
The speech was meant to remind
Americans in Trump's involvement
36:02
of the January 6 insurrection
three years ago Saturday, Trump
36:06
did nothing was among the worst
dereliction of duty by a
36:11
president in American history.
36:13
And it comes as the President's
team believes it can try
36:16
refocusing on Trump's attempts
to overturn the 2020 election
36:19
results as the economy turns the
corner. Inflation is easing.
36:23
There was another positive
monthly jobs report today. And
36:26
gas prices are hitting recent
lows. Yeah,
36:28
Adam Curry: that's actually in
Biden's favor. That he should be
36:31
talking more about that.
36:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, he
doesn't even know. Yeah, but
36:37
let's go to that when I played
Capehart and Brooks, because
36:41
they analyze this
36:43
Adam Curry: K part and Brooks.
36:47
John C Dvorak: Here's, we're
gonna go with I'm trying to
36:52
decide what these two there's
your decision and democracy are
36:56
but let's go to K part on Trump.
This is about the this is the
37:02
level of discourse you have in
the liberal elite media and what
37:06
they actually think this clip is
key part on decision, the
37:11
Unknown: Supreme Court deciding
today they will consider a
37:14
former President Trump's appeal
of the Colorado State Supreme
37:17
Court decision to remove him
from the ballot there that was
37:20
on the basis of the insurrection
clause of the 14th. Amendment.
37:23
This, Jonathan puts the highest
court in the land squarely in
37:27
the center of one of the hottest
political battles this year.
37:30
What's your reaction to them
taking this case up and how it's
37:33
going to unfold?
37:34
They have to take it up? Because
this is one of those questions.
37:37
This this ballot access
question. primary ballot access
37:40
question in the immunity
question is never been tested in
37:44
in our lifetimes or in recent
memory. And the fact that
37:49
Colorado and Maine have booted
him from the ballot, Illinois is
37:56
trying to join the effort
Minnesota and one other state
37:58
that skips Michigan have have
said no, you have a patchwork of
38:04
States and California visions.
And I think the prosecutor you
38:07
who you had on earlier, makes a
good point. What we have to look
38:11
for now is whether the Supreme
Court does a big broad universal
38:16
decision or goes very, very
narrow. For a court that puts a
38:22
lot of emphasis and a lot of
emphasis emphasis on the
38:27
Constitution and what the
framers meant and strict
38:30
originalist interpretation. I'm
looking forward to seeing them
38:35
maybe upholding the Colorado
decision.
38:40
Adam Curry: That's not what
they're going to be arguing
38:42
about. But okay.
38:45
John C Dvorak: Then he thinks
they should uphold the Colorado
38:48
decision. Nobody in their right
mind thinks this. Including
38:54
Brooks who says this is he
thinks a world go nuts if that
38:58
happened, but this guy thinks
that they should. And he's he's
39:03
a complete lunatic. And he's
like one of the main analysts
39:07
for PBS along with Brooks and
listen to this second clip from
39:10
him where he talks about Trump
and Biden speech.
39:17
Adam Curry: On second drive, the
right clip here,
39:20
John C Dvorak: the BK part on
Trump, democracy, democracy. I'm
39:24
Unknown: sure you all saw
President Biden deliver that
39:26
really powerful speech today at
Valley Forge in Pennsylvania. He
39:29
is making the threat to American
democracy a central part of his
39:33
reelection campaign. What did
you make of this speech and also
39:37
him centering that message for
voters? Right? Well,
39:39
this is going back to the
beginning. First, this was his
39:42
fifth speech since since his
election, on this theme of the
39:48
threats to democracy. This is
going back to the beginning
39:50
because when he announced he was
running for president in 2020.
39:54
He zeroed in on Charlottesville
and talked about this was a
39:57
fight for the soul of America.
The his speech today did not
40:01
have that as the title, but
that's what he's talking about.
40:04
That's what he talked about
today. That's what he's been
40:06
talking about in the previous
four speeches. And I think it is
40:10
right for him to do this to
focus to focus on that. Because
40:16
without democracy, none of the
other things that Americans
40:19
want, will get done. And to make
a focus on the potential
40:26
Republican nominee, someone who
has said even today, saying
40:30
that, you know, I'm only going
to be a dictator for one day,
40:34
and all of the other plans that
we know he wants to put in place
40:37
if he wins, if he wins election
again, democracy as we know, it
40:42
will end Oh, Donald Trump is
reelected. Okay.
40:45
Adam Curry: I have 1k part clip,
because k part not only is on
40:49
PBS, but he's also on MSNBC.
This guy is a piece of work. I
40:55
mean, this is by far one of the
best acting jobs I've ever seen
41:01
from a news model, which of
course he is. He brings on one
41:06
of the Capitol policemen who has
written a book. This is
41:11
interesting dude, by the way,
barely burly dude with a beard
41:14
and a huge neck tat. And NK part
introduces him and then just
41:20
falls apart.
41:21
Unknown: Joining me now in
studio is Michael foreknown,
41:25
former DC Metropolitan Police
Officer coverage for America
41:28
council member and author of
hold the line the insurrection
41:32
and one cops battle for
America's soul. Obviously for
41:36
known I'm going to try to get
through this. Thank you for what
41:43
you did three years ago today.
41:48
Adam Curry: He has a hanky and
everything Capehart is
41:55
fantastic.
41:57
John C Dvorak: He's an editor at
the Washington Post. This is a
42:00
this is a shameful element in
our news media. This joker.
42:06
Adam Curry: This is I gotta hear
that again. I love how the voice
42:09
cracks he's got the hanky he's
so emotional about this man who
42:15
who he's a hero he kept American
democracy held held the line for
42:21
Unknown: America so obviously
for known I'm gonna try to get
42:24
through this. Thank you for what
you did three years ago today
42:37
John C Dvorak: on believable
42:38
Adam Curry: house great, these
great more que part. I want you
42:42
he's kind of the new Van Jones
in Van Jones cry and
42:46
John C Dvorak: evangelists. Band
maybe is the new Van Jones.
42:50
That's an interesting point you
just made Yeah. The second half
42:54
of the K part group is Brooks.
Yes. You have K part and Brooks.
42:58
They do this analysis. Every
Friday on the PBS NewsHour.
43:01
There's two guys agreeing with
each other 90% of the time. It's
43:04
laughable. It's not you get
nothing out of it. But but you
43:08
do get to hear a few interesting
things. Brooks is supposed to be
43:11
the more center right? It'd be
even though he's just as left as
43:16
the other guy. But listen to
this is because we played a
43:20
bunch of clips of Biden in his
speech. And here we go. I want
43:24
to play this. This is Brooks
commenting on the Biden energy
43:29
Unknown: data. We've talked
about this before. I mean, the
43:30
economy has been such a big part
of their message. And even
43:33
though the data show it is doing
really well, like when you look
43:37
at the big picture numbers,
you've got 216,000 jobs added in
43:40
December, the inflation rates
down to 3.1%. unemployment below
43:44
4% 4% rather for nearly two
years and yet that isn't
43:49
catching on with voters. Is this
message going to resonate? It's
43:53
important but not enough. I
think it was a powerful speech.
43:55
I
43:56
think when he continues to give
powerful speeches like this, he
43:58
will further rebut the idea that
he's out of it. There's a
44:01
doddering old grandpa. He's
clearly an energetic guy, with
44:03
passion, with fervor and with
force. He's the guy running this
44:07
administration.
44:08
Adam Curry: Where's the sound
effects? She didn't have a
44:11
boiling or anything in there.
Come on, that you needed that. I
44:17
mean, please. Well, there was a
lot about we have an opinion, by
44:21
the way from our constitutional
lawyer on this 14th amendment,
44:24
section three, which I will get
to first we need to have a
44:29
little mini cut. Now I must
spend a moment on something that
44:32
will go on to too much attention
over the next few weeks.
44:36
baseless claims by the President
and his supporters. That there
44:40
has been widespread voter fraud
baseless
44:43
Unknown: claims of voter fraud
baseless claims of voter fraud
44:47
baseless claims of fraud
baseless claims of fraud
44:50
baseless claims of voter fraud
baseless claims of voter fraud
44:54
baseless
44:54
claims of voter fraud baseless
44:56
claims of voter fraud baseless
claims of voter fraud.
45:00
baseless claims about voter
fraud baseless claims about
45:04
voter fraud. Okay.
45:05
Adam Curry: I think we got the
message. Basically that's it's
45:08
weak, baseless.
45:13
John C Dvorak: It has a base
it's a claim or it's not a
45:15
claim.
45:16
Adam Curry: It's baseless.
Whatever it is. It's baseless,
45:19
but every claim has a base.
Does. Yes.
45:24
John C Dvorak: There's a claim
there's a base to every claim
45:26
you make a claim. Unless you're
claiming I don't know what you
45:29
could what is a baseless claim.
I mean, the fact that they put
45:33
the talking point out there the
Democrats did did a good job of
45:36
getting the media to parrot it.
Yep. baseless, baseless,
45:40
baseless. It was successful. Job
to Word of the Day is baseless.
45:46
Adam Curry: Alright, got
45:47
John C Dvorak: it. Got it.
45:48
Adam Curry: So let's, of course,
Trump is back on the Colorado
45:51
ballot. Because the Supreme
Court has said they will take
45:54
the matter up, President
45:55
Unknown: Trump is said to be
certified as a candidate on
45:58
Colorado's primary ballot
despite the state Supreme Court
46:01
ruling him ineligible under the
14th amendment. I want to bring
46:04
in senior Washington reporter
Devin Dwyer along with senior
46:07
reporter Catherine folders for
more Catherine wise Colorado
46:10
Secretary of State Certifying
Trump on the GOP ballot, despite
46:14
that ruling. Alright, so this is
tied up in the courts of bid
46:18
here. But the bottom line is, if
an appeal of that was like how
46:21
Adam Curry: to just gloss over
that, you know, it's like, well,
46:23
that's tied up in the courts a
bit here. But that's the whole
46:26
point. Right.
46:27
Unknown: So this is tied up in
the courts a bit here. But the
46:30
bottom line is, if an appeal of
that was filed before today,
46:34
he's essentially back on the
ballot. We know, the Colorado
46:38
GOP appealed to the US Supreme
Court. That was on December 27.
46:42
Even Trump's attorneys
effectively appealed this on
46:45
Wednesday, January 3, so that
put him back on the list. That's
46:48
why he of course is scheduled to
be certified on this ballot
46:52
today. So until the Supreme
Court and I know Devin could
46:54
talk more about this, but until
the Supreme Court essentially
46:57
picks up the case and acts by
either refusing to review the
47:00
case or by somehow siding with
the Colorado Supreme Court. He
47:04
is essentially effectively on
the list. I
47:07
Adam Curry: love the essentially
effectively. Okay, so we got
47:09
that part. So hilarious,
essentially effective. Let's
47:13
bring in Devin, he'll explain
what's going on here. Devin,
47:16
when
47:16
Unknown: could the US Supreme
Court take the case and what's
47:19
at stake here?
47:20
Adam Curry: This is ABC. Well,
47:21
Unknown: Dan, the justices are
meeting right now for their
47:24
first regularly scheduled
private conference of the year.
47:27
This is when they consider
petitions like President Trump's
47:31
petition, and vote on whether
they'll decide to even take up
47:34
this case. Now ordinarily,
something like these Trump
47:36
appeals, which just came in, in
the past few days, are sort of
47:40
too soon to be considered in a
conference like this. But we
47:43
know that the parties, as
Catherine mentioned, have asked
47:46
the justices to expedite this,
they want a decision quickly.
47:50
And that decision could come as
soon as later this afternoon,
47:53
whether they will expedite
consideration, not necessarily
47:56
that they'll take the case. But
the justices are not on any
48:00
fixed timeline so they can rule
whenever they want to. And
48:04
they're going to want to be
careful. This is a historic
48:06
case, a highly divisive a
political case, one of the
48:08
biggest cases politically that
they will have heard or had a
48:11
chance to consider since Bush
versus Gore 20 years ago. So
48:15
they're going to want to take
their time and potentially take
48:17
some off ramps here. Well,
48:19
Adam Curry: I've been talking to
our constitutional lawyer, Rob
48:22
Forbin. Jag he's been around,
then. And he he's I put it on
48:27
the show notes his entire
opinion. It's it's quite
48:30
lengthy. And he he's he really
broke it all down the section
48:35
three. And he you know, he's
analyzing the text the way you
48:40
read it. And of course, you have
the traditionalists who might
48:44
say we have to read it in the
context of when it was written.
48:47
But he goes through all that.
But he says, I believe that
48:49
section three likely does indeed
apply to the president, even
48:52
though it's a close call. But
that probably won't be the
48:57
issue. The issue will come down
to okay, then if Trump wasn't
49:03
insurrectionists, which has yet
to be proven somewhere. Section
49:08
five comes into play, which
reads, The Congress shall have
49:13
the power to enforce by
appropriate legislation, the
49:17
provisions of this article. And
you're already kind of hearing
49:20
that narrative spin up, where
Okay, the Supreme Court can say
49:25
yes, they'd apply to the
president, but and they probably
49:28
would put it but Congress has to
determine what what sanctions
49:33
you put on this and to my
knowledge that has never been
49:36
done. And when it says the
Congress, I'm presuming that I
49:41
don't know what rules that would
go under if it's a straight up
49:44
and down majority vote if you
need a supermajority, obviously,
49:48
would be the House of
Representatives and the Senate.
49:51
So that could be you know, the
House would probably say yes or
49:55
no. And the Senate would
probably say yes, based upon
49:57
straight party line votes. But I
think this this could actually
50:01
be a gambit. In Me, possibly,
because Trump wants this. He's I
50:07
want to know, let's get this out
there. Does this apply to me? It
50:11
could be a boomerang effect. If,
you know there's a lot of this
50:17
was that guy from Louisiana? The
gruff guy. He's on the he's on
50:22
the he's on some important
committee. Yummy. Kennedy. No,
50:26
no, no, no, no different guy. I
forget his name. Bald guy. He's
50:32
a he's kind of a tough guy,
tough guy. Okay, he was on
50:36
toggle. He was on Tucker. So he
claims that there were
50:44
approximately 200 federal agents
inside and in the crowd on
50:50
January 6, if that somehow comes
out, and they have some kind of
50:55
we have a year to do it,
basically. And we have some
50:59
hearings and then determined
well hold on a second. This was
51:03
a scam. Well, then Biden would
be directly involved in an
51:10
insurrection. And then it could
apply to him. Wishful thinking,
51:17
maybe, but there's something up
with Trump wanting this so
51:20
quickly. Yeah, we want this. We
want this. There's something
51:24
going on here that I think it'll
come down to Will Congress do
51:27
this? Does Congress have the
power? And so now, of course, we
51:32
have to start determining if
well, two things really what
51:37
really what Trump did Trump
started an insurrection. What
51:41
was his role? And George Steph
was flapless. That had a run
51:48
down and I guess they got to
Jonathan Karl to report on Dan
51:51
Scavino, and others who were
under oath. Good
51:54
Unknown: morning, and welcome to
this week. As we mark three
51:57
years since the January 6
insurrection, the 2024 election
52:01
is shaping up to be a referendum
on what happened that day and
52:04
what it means for the future of
our democracy. That was the
52:07
theme of President Biden's first
campaign speech Friday, as he
52:10
blasted Donald Trump for January
6.
52:13
blasted. Trump did nothing was
among the worst dereliction of
52:18
duty by a president in American
history
52:22
John C Dvorak: that's opening
52:23
Unknown: overturn a free and
fair election by force and
52:25
violence.
52:27
And in Iowa this weekend, Trump
responded with repeated lies
52:29
about the 2020 election and
calls to free the convicted
52:33
January 6 writers whom He called
hostages. This morning, we have
52:36
exclusive new reporting and what
Trump was doing at the White
52:38
House on January 6 is the writer
searched through the Capitol.
52:41
Chief Washington correspondent
John Karl starts us off. Good
52:44
morning, John.
52:44
Good morning, George. Exclusive
52:46
Adam Curry: exclusive inside
detailed reporting now Scavino
52:50
was adobe after
52:51
John C Dvorak: marriage. John
Karl, a member of the Council on
52:53
Foreign Relations better the
correspondence? Yes, exactly.
52:57
For lefty
53:00
Adam Curry: dance Covino was the
White House Deputy Chief of
53:03
Staff before that he managed
Trump's Westchester golf club.
53:08
They should have thrown that in
I don't know why they missed
53:10
that. That interesting detail.
53:12
John C Dvorak: You know that
you're right is don't get why
53:15
they keep missing stuff like
this. They're sloppy.
53:17
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, Jonathan
Karl, I guess he had his
53:20
marching orders. So he just did
what you're supposed to do. Dan
53:23
Unknown: Scavino is known Donald
Trump since he was 15 years old.
53:27
worked for him for more than
three decades starting as his
53:30
golf caddy. Nobody inside the
White House outside of family.
53:34
That's good at the golf caddy is
great. Had a closer relationship
53:38
with
53:38
Him. The great days give me the
most powerful man in politics
53:43
Scavino great
53:45
Adam Curry: editing. I mean,
this is good. Yeah, that's the
53:47
that's the soundbite you want
helped manage
53:49
Unknown: Trump's Twitter,
Instagram and Facebook accounts
53:52
is also one of just a handful of
people who were with Trump on
53:55
January 6, as the attack on the
Capitol was unfolding. The
54:00
January 6 committee wanted to
talk to him but he defied their
54:03
subpoena. After a court battle,
he did finally talk to Special
54:07
Counsel Jack Smith's team of
investigators Scavino his office
54:11
was just outside the Oval
Office. And sources familiar
54:14
with the investigation. Tell ABC
News Scavino told investigators
54:18
he went in to see Trump as soon
as he saw the violence had
54:22
broken out at the Capitol. Now
54:23
Adam Curry: remember, he's
already said sources familiar
54:26
with the matter. So this is all
conjecture that comes now. The
54:29
next 50 seconds is all just
whatever sources familiar with
54:32
the matter said no one's on
54:33
Unknown: record. And he
described Trump's sitting in his
54:36
small dining room next to the
Oval Office. His arms folded
54:39
staring at the television
watching live coverage of the
54:43
attack on Fox News
54:44
Adam Curry: This is beautiful.
There is no there is literally
54:49
this is baseless there's no
evidence is just sources
54:52
baseless sources familiar with
the matter now describing you
54:55
can see Trump seeing their arms
folded, scowling Looking at the
55:00
television were
55:03
John C Dvorak: crazy, crazy man.
55:04
Unknown: Trump was angry Scavino
told investigators According to
55:07
the sources, saying the election
had been stolen from him, and
55:11
that his supporters were quote,
angry on his behalf, as has been
55:15
described by the January 6
committee report. Second,
55:19
John C Dvorak: you have to give
me your calves and he says, this
55:22
election was stolen from me, and
they're acting on my behalf.
55:26
What do you what kind of
dialogue is this?
55:29
Adam Curry: Oh, it's it's
propaganda is what it is, of
55:33
course, that that's how you set
the narrative. That's how you
55:36
get people to sit there and look
at a half dead guy who's
55:39
president and go, you have four
more years
55:41
Unknown: stolen from him, and
that his supporters were quote,
55:44
angry on his behalf. As has been
described by the January 6
55:48
committee report. Other advisors
came in to see Trump as well,
55:52
including White House lawyers,
Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows,
55:55
and eventually his daughter,
Ivanka Trump, all urging him to
55:59
make some kind of statement
telling his supporters to leave
56:02
the Capitol. The sources say
Scavino described Trump as non
56:06
responsive and his demeanor as
quote very unsettling. As he
56:10
continued staring at the TV.
Soon he told investigators all
56:15
of the advisors left the room,
leaving Trump alone. i
56:19
John C Dvorak: Oh, please,
horses, you know, this is this
56:22
is reminding me of this of the
narrative that was created. And
56:27
people older, you might even
remember this. During Nixon's,
56:34
just before Nixon quit. He
resigned from the presidency
56:39
because he was going to be
impeached. And in the end of
56:42
media created and this goes back
by the way that our media
56:46
deconstruction we could have
been doing this show 30 years
56:48
ago, and it wouldn't have been
much different. They created
56:53
this notion and it's again, an
unsubstantiated, but it became a
56:58
practice kind of like to say it
reminds me of the J. Edgar
57:02
Hoover in a dress, which turns
out to be bogus. Yep. But Nixon
57:07
was crawling around on his hands
and knees in the right house.
57:12
Yes, I
57:13
Adam Curry: remember that. Yes,
I was young, but he I sure do.
57:17
John C Dvorak: And we get that
stuck in our mind because the
57:19
media created the image of Nixon
crawling around in his hands.
57:22
And he's there is no evidence of
this. By
57:25
Adam Curry: the same token, I
always have the image of
57:28
President Obama smoking
cigarettes in the in the in the
57:33
residence watching basketball
games. I mean, I'm sure that's
57:37
bull crap, too. But
57:39
John C Dvorak: that probably
quit smoking. No, he never quit.
57:43
But I'm sure he watched a lot of
basketball. You loved it.
57:47
Adam Curry: Okay, so now we
continue with Jonathan. Carl's
57:50
reports is great reporting.
Jonathan's just fabulous.
57:53
Unknown: And John, this all
comes of course, is Donald Trump
57:55
is still making the 2020
election central to his 2024.
57:58
Campaign.
57:59
Yeah, in Georgia. This is a very
important point. According to
58:02
our sources. If Did you?
58:04
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's very
Yeah, I heard that. Usually
58:08
catch him better than I do. But
that was odd. To his Why is he
58:11
laughing? Well, I
58:12
Adam Curry: don't know if he's
laughing. But it's more like.
58:15
Unknown: Campaign. Yeah, in
Georgia. This is a very
58:17
important point. He is laughing.
58:19
John C Dvorak: That is laughing.
This is very, he knows is not
58:22
important. He's making this up.
He's a liar.
58:25
Unknown: Yeah. And George, this
is a very important point.
58:27
According to our sources.
Scavino was asked directly our
58:31
sources.
58:32
Adam Curry: I mean, this is not
journalism. It's just not it's
58:36
who is yourself. I mean, you
could even say a source in the
58:39
White House assorted to give me
the the our
58:42
John C Dvorak: sources is
gossip, whether the TMZ saw
58:46
Unknown: any evidence that there
was vote fraud, and enough to
58:49
overturn the results in any
state.
58:51
Adam Curry: He Wait a moment,
let me go back here, according
58:53
let me see what he's actually
saying. In
58:56
Unknown: Georgia, this is a very
important point. According to
58:58
our sources, Scavino was asked
directly, whether or not he saw
59:03
any evidence that there was
voter fraud and enough to
59:06
overturn the results in any
state. He said, No, variations
59:10
of that exact question have been
asked by virtually everybody who
59:13
served Donald Trump at the White
House. And under oath, they have
59:18
said over over a grid again,
that none of them saw any
59:21
evidence that the election was
stolen. They may have said
59:24
different things publicly, but
under oath, they deny any
59:28
knowledge that the election had
significant fraud.
59:31
Adam Curry: This is fantastic.
Um, so you take some knowledge,
59:34
unrelated people who are under
oath and said no, no, no. And
59:38
then they tie that to Scavino,
which is something sources say,
59:42
I mean, it may very well be
true, but let me come on. This
59:45
is not journalism, Jonathan
Karl.
59:48
John C Dvorak: So the other
thing is, why are they still
59:51
fussing about this? Even Hillary
after the 2016 election and
59:55
everybody was denying Trump made
the you know, one It was the
1:00:00
same thing. And he they were in
the Trump denialism and he was
1:00:04
not the legitimate president.
And he's not my president, blah,
1:00:06
blah, blah, blah, blah. After
two years of that FTA in within
1:00:12
two years that that ended, this
is never ending. What why? What
1:00:17
is the reason for them? Is this.
Too much of Jackie knows what is
1:00:22
the old phrase where your object
too much?
1:00:27
Adam Curry: complaining too much
off protest too much. The lady
1:00:34
doth protest too much. I think
that's what it is. Well, I think
1:00:38
it's coming down to a showdown.
Then I have the clips that will
1:00:42
possibly show us that this is
true. We have the current
1:00:46
speaker of the house versus the
former Speaker of the House,
1:00:49
it's going to come down to who
do you trust the most?
1:00:52
Unknown: Of course, you have the
trials that could take place
1:00:55
with Jack Smith's investigation.
You also the Supreme Court
1:00:57
taking up this challenge to
President Trump on the 14th
1:01:01
amendment. Do you believe that
Donald Trump engaged in
1:01:04
insurrection?
1:01:05
Yes, I think that he engaged in
insurrection, I think that he
1:01:09
incited an insurrection. And
again, that he would not stop.
1:01:14
What was going on as his own
people said this is your legacy
1:01:18
smoke coming from the Capitol?
Is your legacy? Yes, I do
1:01:22
believe
1:01:23
Adam Curry: that who said that
you believe who said that? This
1:01:26
is your legacy was that sources
who said that?
1:01:29
John C Dvorak: Never heard it. I
never heard all I remember which
1:01:32
they don't want to bring up
especially with Nancy Pelosi
1:01:35
there. They don't want to bring
up the fact that Trump requested
1:01:38
National Guard troops at the
Capitol just to prevent such a
1:01:41
thing from happening. And she
refused to bring them in, like
1:01:45
him that's never brought up as
some sort of thing that maybe
1:01:48
defends him and
1:01:49
Adam Curry: that her daughter
was there with her documentary
1:01:51
camera crew to document this.
Another element that Pelosi is
1:01:56
the smoking gun here because she
was she was she's part of the
1:01:59
plot. And
1:02:00
Unknown: again, that he would
not stop. What was going on as
1:02:04
his own people said this is your
legacy. smoke coming from the
1:02:08
Capitol is your legacy. Yes, I
do believe that. It is a most
1:02:13
unfortunate situation. Our
founders knew that we could have
1:02:18
a rogue president. They didn't
realize that at the same time,
1:02:22
we could have a rogue Senate and
Congress I do this think that
1:02:25
whatever all this happened, poop
on the floor of the Congress
1:02:30
defecation blood. poop on the
floor
1:02:33
John C Dvorak: was like San
Francisco.
1:02:39
Adam Curry: She should be used
to it poop
1:02:40
Unknown: on the floor of the
Congress defecation blood.
1:02:44
disrespect for the people who
maintain the capital coming
1:02:48
after pence coming after me and
the rest. That
1:02:51
Adam Curry: pence coming after
me in the rest. Wow, this is
1:02:53
getting good. Nance. great
1:02:55
Unknown: majority of the
Republicans in the House voted
1:02:58
not to accept. So Madam Speaker.
1:03:02
Adam Curry: Okay, so this is
good, because she's floundering
1:03:05
a little bit here at the end. We
have a second clip. And I have a
1:03:09
feeling that she she's not sure
that the case is, is is as tight
1:03:15
as people would would like to
believe it is that he clearly
1:03:20
participated and incited an
insurrection as a Madam
1:03:23
Unknown: Speaker. If you believe
if you believe he engaged in
1:03:26
insurrection under the plain
meaning of the 14th Amendment,
1:03:28
you believe he's ineligible to
be president. Those
1:03:33
laws are up to the states. They
have different laws from state
1:03:36
to state. I don't think he
should ever have the
1:03:39
Constitution.
1:03:40
Adam Curry: Do you say
something?
1:03:42
John C Dvorak: I yeah, I said
no, that is shouldn't be up to
1:03:45
the states. And if it's up to
the states. I hope that K parser
1:03:49
right in the Supreme Court says
well, it's up to the states and
1:03:51
let the states do it. That means
that Biden will be taken off the
1:03:55
Florida ballot. That was yeah,
I'm just saying DeSantis already
1:04:02
said if that if this is the
case, we can take Biden off the
1:04:06
Florida ballot because he's been
is he's derelict of duty for
1:04:10
stopping the hordes coming in
from Mexico.
1:04:14
Adam Curry: I think she's she's
waffling here she's waffling
1:04:17
she's stuttering she's not
certain of the case here. She
1:04:21
has this is not not airtight
1:04:24
Unknown: those law they're up to
the states they have different
1:04:27
laws from state to state. I
don't think he should ever as
1:04:31
the Constitution but nonetheless
that
1:04:36
Adam Curry: those who sniffed
there was that net I
1:04:41
Unknown: don't think he should
ever as the Constitution but
1:04:43
nonetheless that
1:04:48
Adam Curry: I needed to I needed
to George step back. Hold on a
1:04:52
second. I'll be good and the
second bra.
1:04:54
Unknown: I don't think he should
ever have been constitution but
1:04:57
nonetheless. But
1:04:59
Adam Curry: wow. See without
that talk like that, for that
1:05:02
seek to
1:05:03
Unknown: state. I don't think he
should ever as the Constitution,
1:05:06
but nonetheless
1:05:11
Adam Curry: I just got a hit of
some remnants.
1:05:13
Unknown: There is a view of the
Constitution in Article 14,
1:05:16
section three, that he should
not be able to run for
1:05:20
president. But that's not the
point the point now
1:05:23
Adam Curry: that's not the
point. Ah, okay. What's the
1:05:26
point is
1:05:27
Unknown: that again, different
states have different laws we
1:05:30
don't think in California that
it, it applied in our state.
1:05:34
That's what the decision was
made here. But anyway, not to go
1:05:37
into that, because that's very
intricate.
1:05:40
Adam Curry: Not to go into that
interesting. Yeah, you're right.
1:05:42
She does not want that to
happen. But she sounds She
1:05:45
sounds worried about like, it's
1:05:46
Unknown: very clear.
1:05:48
John C Dvorak: So hold on a
second stop. She said that's not
1:05:51
the point is she was gonna say
the point. Does she say the
1:05:54
point you missed the point as
you move to California talking
1:05:58
about California? But that's not
the point. If that's not the
1:06:01
point, what's the point, let's
1:06:02
Adam Curry: figure it out, are
able
1:06:03
Unknown: to run for president.
But that's not the point. The
1:06:05
point now is, again, different
states have different laws. We
1:06:10
don't think in California, that
it, it applied. In our state,
1:06:14
that's what the decision was
made here. But anyway, not to go
1:06:17
into that, because that's very
intricate. What is very clear,
1:06:22
is that the American people want
us to honor our oath to protect
1:06:27
and defend the Constitution of
the United States. I, you know,
1:06:31
being from Baltimore, I'm proud
of the national anthem. And in
1:06:34
it, it says both through the
night that our flag was still
1:06:38
there, we have to prove through
this campaign and the night that
1:06:42
our flag is still there, with
liberty and justice for all, and
1:06:46
not have an acceptance of
Confederate flags under Lincoln
1:06:50
stone, with a President sitting
in the White House doing nothing
1:06:53
to stop the violence to stop the
violence. He talks about the big
1:06:58
steel. As he again gauges in the
big lie. This
1:07:01
Adam Curry: is my point. She has
nothing she has no point. All
1:07:04
she says is well, mistakes is
not the point the States is not
1:07:07
the point. Well, let's go to the
current speaker of the house.
1:07:11
Mike Johnson. By the way, crazy
guy believes in God he has a sky
1:07:16
daddy, gotta be careful with
this guy. No separation of
1:07:19
church and state who he's very
Wookiee scary. So we'll bring in
1:07:23
Margaret Brennan from CBS to
grill him.
1:07:26
Unknown: 2021 You were the
lawmaker who circulated the The
1:07:29
Legal Brief known as the Texas
amicus brief, challenging the
1:07:33
2020 election outcome in a
number of states, which by CBS
1:07:37
editorial standards makes you an
election denier. Who is
1:07:40
Adam Curry: an election denied
by CBS standards. Go away.
1:07:45
John C Dvorak: See me by CBS,
she says by CBS editorial
1:07:51
standards, yes. Yes. Hold on.
Election denier? Yes. So in
1:07:58
other words, doing what's legal
and proper and going through the
1:08:02
process of of putting together
this this brief? By going
1:08:07
through that process by their
editorial standards? Yes, they
1:08:11
have standards. That's your
election denier. Because you did
1:08:15
the work
1:08:16
Adam Curry: is great. Who runs
this country, CBS News, we have
1:08:21
the standards,
1:08:23
Unknown: challenging the 2020
election outcome and the number
1:08:26
of states, which by CBS
editorial standards makes you an
1:08:29
election denier? Well, can I get
you on the record on that? I've
1:08:34
always been consistent on the
record. Did you read the brief?
1:08:36
Did you get a chance to read
what we found?
1:08:40
I have read extensively some
criticisms of that, but read
1:08:43
commentary about the brief, but
not what we submitted to the
1:08:45
court. Do you recognize that
President Biden won the 2020
1:08:48
election? Can you just put that
was
1:08:50
certified as the winner of the
election, he took the oath of
1:08:52
office. He's been the president
for three years. What the
1:08:55
argument that we presented to
the court, which is our only
1:08:58
avenue to do so was that the
Constitution was clearly
1:09:01
violated in the 2020 election.
It's article two, section one,
1:09:05
and anyone can Google it and
read it for themselves. The
1:09:08
system by which you choose
electors to elect the president,
1:09:12
the United States must be done
by the individual states and the
1:09:16
system must be ratified the
state legislatures, that is
1:09:19
language plain language still
have
1:09:21
issues which the validity of the
2020 election constitution
1:09:26
was violated in the run up to
the 2020 election, not always in
1:09:30
bad faith, but in the aftermath
of COVID. Many states change
1:09:34
their election laws in ways that
violated that plain language.
1:09:36
That's just a fact. We presented
that argument and that that
1:09:41
those facts to the court, and it
was never directly addressed
1:09:45
because the Texas litigation but
that was the only vehicle we had
1:09:49
to present that issue squarely
to the court. So she has not
1:09:52
Adam Curry: read the brief. And
of course he's right. We this
1:09:56
was discussed ad nauseam about
the changes that were made.
1:10:00
Yeah, but that doesn't matter
because you know, Liz Cheney,
1:10:03
Unknown: your colleague, Liz
Cheney, your former colleague,
1:10:06
Mike Johnson, and our Republican
leaders have played a
1:10:08
destructive role. You she says
convinced 125 other Republican
1:10:12
members of Congress to sign on
to an amicus brief that many
1:10:15
never read, that made new just
1:10:18
Adam Curry: like you didn't,
just like you didn't read
1:10:20
John C Dvorak: it, like she
didn't read it.
1:10:22
Unknown: Many, many never read
that made numerous false factual
1:10:28
and constitutional claims. How
do you respond to that? And the
1:10:32
impression that he
1:10:33
Adam Curry: should respond,
Margaret, you ignorant slut,
1:10:36
that would have been funny, but
no man of God won't do that,
1:10:39
Unknown: that you might have
contributed in some way. I
1:10:42
don't spend much time responding
to Liz Cheney's criticism these
1:10:45
days, Liz Cheney worked with the
Democrats on the Jan six January
1:10:49
6, select committee to make all
of this even more politicized,
1:10:54
and it was she was a close
friend and colleague before she
1:10:59
said those choices. Yes, I was
surprised. She's well, I'm
1:11:04
surprised that she's given that
criticism because during that
1:11:06
process, Liz and I were in
constant dialogue about that.
1:11:09
And at one point, she even
considered signing on to that
1:11:12
bill. I'll tell you that that is
a fact. That to that amicus
1:11:16
brief, and we talked about that
a great length and we had a
1:11:19
difference of opinion on the
law, and people can agree to
1:11:22
disagree on that. But I'm
telling you that the plain
1:11:24
language of the Constitution has
never changed. No left
1:11:27
Adam Curry: toe, left toe. Why
is Mike Johnson laughing here?
1:11:31
Because the Constitution hasn't
changed. It's ridiculous
1:11:34
Unknown: about that at great
length. And we had a difference
1:11:35
of opinion on the law and people
can agree to disagree on that.
1:11:39
But I'm telling you that the
plain language of the
1:11:41
Constitution has never changed.
What do you think that's about?
1:11:44
Adam Curry: Why is he Oh, God.
He'll, what's he all laughed
1:11:48
Telly about?
1:11:49
Unknown: And what?
1:11:50
John C Dvorak: That would i I'm
baffled by?
1:11:52
Adam Curry: Well, I think he's
because the Constitution hasn't
1:11:55
changed. Um, so how about this?
I'm so certain of what I'm
1:11:58
doing, you morons. The
Constitution hasn't changed,
1:12:01
Unknown: and people can agree to
disagree on that. But I'm
1:12:04
telling you that the plain
language of the Constitution has
1:12:06
never changed. And what happened
in many states by changing the
1:12:10
election laws without
ratification by the state
1:12:12
legislatures is a violation of
the Constitution. That's a
1:12:15
that's a plain fact that no one
can dispute. Okay,
1:12:17
Adam Curry: we'll wrap it up.
With rapid How
1:12:21
Unknown: do you make sense of
the idea that you still have
1:12:25
issues with the validity of the
2020 election, but you have to
1:12:29
negotiate and talk with the
President of the United States,
1:12:33
Joe Biden,
1:12:33
this is water under the bridge.
I mean, when when the Supreme
1:12:35
Court passed on the Texas
litigation, it did not address
1:12:39
the issue. I believe in the rule
of law. This is our system, we
1:12:42
move forward. And I work with
President Biden as the president
1:12:46
united states, I think that he
will be a one term president.
1:12:48
But you know, this discussion
about what happened in 2020? Is
1:12:52
is yesterday's news.
1:12:55
Adam Curry: There's something
there that we don't understand.
1:12:57
But But Mike Johnson does, the
Supreme Court passing on that
1:13:02
somehow has something to do with
this. Maybe maybe our
1:13:06
constitutional lawyer can
explain. But Bill, regardless,
1:13:09
we need to sigh up the American
people, at least people who
1:13:14
watch MSNBC and explain how an
alternate slate of basically how
1:13:21
the electoral system works.
Because Nancy Pelosi was
1:13:27
partially right. He said, You
know, our constitution was set
1:13:30
up to deal with a rogue
president, it was really set up
1:13:34
to make sure that no nut jobs
become president. That's what
1:13:38
the electoral college is about
the confusion in the United
1:13:41
States. Is that you vote for the
president, you don't. In fact,
1:13:47
the states, most states, I think
you'll have to correct me John
1:13:51
can send a whole bunch of other
people to Washington DC, for a
1:13:58
whole different candidate. It's
not even up to the voters. Am I
1:14:02
correct?
1:14:03
John C Dvorak: I think it's
technically possible. I don't
1:14:05
know that mechanism anymore.
Doesn't happen. So it's kind of
1:14:10
it hasn't happened for I think,
maybe to happen in the I think
1:14:15
this is what 1800s
1:14:16
Adam Curry: This is what was
happening states were sending
1:14:19
alternate slate of electors in
the mainstream media known as
1:14:23
fake electors.
1:14:26
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
right, they would use the
1:14:30
Adam Curry: term fake. So Roger
Stone does understand this
1:14:33
process going speaking of Nixon,
and Ari Melber, pulls it all
1:14:37
apart.
1:14:38
Unknown: One Trump ally, who's
actually flown under the radar,
1:14:41
even in the coup case that I
just mentioned, is being brought
1:14:44
by Smith. And yet he's a very
famous figure Roger Stone. You
1:14:48
may recall he was flanked by
Oathkeepers. On January 6, he's
1:14:52
sitting right there outside a DC
hotel that we reported on stone,
1:14:58
discussing and coordinating I
applaud to try to get states and
1:15:02
electors to overthrow the
results that had Trump losing
1:15:06
and stone discussed this idea
about Trump trying to just push
1:15:09
forward alternate electors that
could type of government fraud
1:15:12
that then could sow chaos that
could somehow help them steal
1:15:15
the race on the sixth. You may
remember some of this has now
1:15:18
been further documented, some of
it happened. Here's what we have
1:15:21
on tape.
1:15:21
Any legislative body may decide
on the basis of overwhelming
1:15:27
evidence of fraud, to send
electors to the Electoral
1:15:31
College, who accurately reflect
and reflect the President's
1:15:35
legitimate victory in their
state, which was illegally
1:15:40
denied him through fraud.
1:15:42
Now, that is what he was saying
separately, and over time, we
1:15:47
know that electors who pushed
actual fraud have now been
1:15:51
indicted, or civilly sued in
several states. Stone denies
1:15:56
wrongdoing. He says that states
could legally exercise the kind
1:16:00
of authority he discussed there.
And amidst these reports, we
1:16:02
want to make sure you know that
he previously posted online that
1:16:05
he never plotted the seeding of
fake electors. I've interviewed
1:16:10
him before and we've asked him
to come back on the beat if he
1:16:12
wants to discuss the story, but
that is his public response to
1:16:15
some of this.
1:16:16
Adam Curry: Yeah, he never fake
electors alternatives. Alternate
1:16:20
slate. Yeah, fake electors. No,
right. Right. Right, right.
1:16:25
Right. Right, right. Yep, yep,
yep.
1:16:27
John C Dvorak: But he but the
Melber Alberto's?
1:16:32
Adam Curry: He's a lawyer, by
the way, know, the rap Hip Hop
1:16:35
lyric quoting a lawyer. Yes.
He's so cool. In the words, in
1:16:40
the words of
1:16:41
John C Dvorak: PGAS, you're just
twisting there. It's called
1:16:44
alternate is twisted. Yeah,
1:16:46
Adam Curry: they're called
alternates. It's, and so I think
1:16:49
this fits in with Mike Johnson
saying, you know, the
1:16:52
Constitution was violated.
Trump's and alternate slate, and
1:16:57
they have now been indicted or
civilly sued have been okay. And
1:17:02
so no one's in jail. No one's
been. No one's been been
1:17:07
convicted of anything of any
wrongdoing. Certainly not to
1:17:10
being an alternate slate. I
don't know that the world is
1:17:14
ultimately coming.
1:17:15
John C Dvorak: I think
something's up. Yes. It is just
1:17:18
too much discussion.
1:17:19
Adam Curry: Yeah. Nancy Pelosi
is is not sounding confident.
1:17:23
And Mike Johnson sounds overly
confident.
1:17:27
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's cocky.
Yes,
1:17:29
Adam Curry: he is. Yes, he is.
1:17:33
John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
we've seen this kind of TV show
1:17:35
reminds me of what's the guy
that's doing that one committee
1:17:37
who keeps coming on things and
he's so overconfidence.
1:17:41
ludicrous. He hasn't done
anything really one. What's one
1:17:46
guy's name? He's kind of got the
round kind of a cube head cube.
1:17:51
Mini cube head.
1:17:52
Adam Curry: What topic does he
1:17:54
John C Dvorak: do? He's running
one of the investigative
1:17:57
committees of the house. House
investigation of something of
1:18:01
Biden. the Biden family.
1:18:05
Adam Curry: Yeah, the comer
comer.
1:18:07
John C Dvorak: Comer. Yeah, I
got. Yeah. Good. Cube ahead,
1:18:10
Adam Curry: cube. Comer. Boy,
we're not shallow.
1:18:18
John C Dvorak: No, we're not.
1:18:20
Adam Curry: We're not
superficial. Well, speaking of
1:18:22
appearances. Let's go to Nimrod.
1:18:25
Unknown: Haley's campaign
recently sidetracked with a
1:18:27
voter asked about the cause of
the Civil War, and she did not
1:18:30
mention slavery and answer it.
She later clarified. What do you
1:18:33
say to people who say that
1:18:36
you really had challenges when
it
1:18:37
comes to talking about race. We
1:18:39
were the only Indian family in
our small southern town. I was
1:18:45
teased every day for being
brown. So anyone that wants to
1:18:51
question it can go back and look
at what I've said on how hard it
1:18:55
was to grow up in the deep south
as a brown girl. The civil wars
1:18:59
always been known about slavery.
I misread it and thought he was
1:19:03
looking for a bigger answer
going forward. You
1:19:06
Adam Curry: got duped Nimrod
duped Brown Girl in the ring.
1:19:12
Viva la noche you got duped? She
got duped over done. She was in
1:19:18
money by
1:19:19
John C Dvorak: silica some
Silicon Valley boys I know
1:19:21
personally. Yeah, that are
largely responsible for this.
1:19:25
Adam Curry: What do you mean?
1:19:28
John C Dvorak: They talk about
her she is the element she is
1:19:30
the pushed forward by the
billionaire class across the
1:19:34
country and Silicon Valley is
part of it. Oh, I see what you
1:19:37
mean. They don't get invited to
some events. Like as if
1:19:42
Adam Curry: I got invited to a
to a event with with Nimrod as
1:19:45
well here in Texas.
1:19:48
John C Dvorak: Yeah, what's
Texas is is ranch at the ranch.
1:19:52
Adam Curry: went over to the
ranch and one of the billionaire
1:19:55
oil guys. Sure. I should have
gone just to just decipher Well
1:20:00
if at all out and it'd be a
little weird. I wouldn't feel
1:20:03
comfortable Yeah, sure. Send
Tina. Go sniff out Haley. See
1:20:10
what's going on with her. is no
good.
1:20:15
John C Dvorak: Just kept was
this little topical change of
1:20:18
pace hear
1:20:20
Adam Curry: you about Lloyd
Austin? Yes. No one No one did.
1:20:25
Well, they
1:20:25
John C Dvorak: still don't.
Here's Lloyd Austin is down
1:20:28
clip. Okay, here we go.
1:20:30
Unknown: Defense Secretary Lloyd
Austin has been in Walter Reed
1:20:33
Medical Center since Monday but
the Pentagon didn't disclose it
1:20:36
until last night. And there are
reports that he spent four days
1:20:40
in the intensive care unit.
Austin spokesman Major General
1:20:43
Pat writer said he was admitted
for complications from an
1:20:47
unspecified minor medical
procedure. Today writer said
1:20:50
Austin resumed his full duties
last night while still in the
1:20:53
hospital, but couldn't say when
Austin would be released. It
1:20:57
this doesn't
1:20:58
Adam Curry: seem like a big
deal, but it is a big deal.
1:21:00
Deal. evacs fully boosted but
this guy calls shots and speak
1:21:05
enough but he calls the shots on
he doesn't have to talk to the
1:21:09
President about all the things
that he's doing in the two wars
1:21:13
that were involved in. And even
when he went in the deputy
1:21:18
Terry, the deputy head the
deputy secretary, if you write
1:21:23
that down to
1:21:27
John C Dvorak: the nature of our
show people,
1:21:29
Adam Curry: that's how we do it.
The Deputy Secretary of Defense
1:21:33
she was on leave. So he should
never have it's like, you know,
1:21:37
if the President is going to
have anesthesia, then
1:21:39
temporarily the Vice President
has has the has the helm.
1:21:43
There's a whole process for
that. And the same for the for
1:21:46
the for the defense secretary.
This was a this was a gaffe the
1:21:51
something was very wrong with
this. He may be dead already. Is
1:21:55
what some people think. Others
think he's been incarcerated. I
1:22:00
love that. I love that one.
That's Q anon he's been
1:22:04
incarcerated. I love I love the
car.
1:22:05
John C Dvorak: I heard that the
minor operation was he had his
1:22:07
balls removed.
1:22:11
Adam Curry: Thanks, Marty. I
have have a couple more more
1:22:15
details on this.
1:22:17
Unknown: There are questions
tonight on why top levels of the
1:22:20
federal government were not
immediately told US Defense
1:22:23
Secretary Lloyd Austin was
hospitalized following
1:22:27
complications from an elective
procedure. The 70 year old has
1:22:31
been at Walter Reed Medical
Center since January 1, A source
1:22:35
tells the Wall Street Journal
often needed to be admitted to
1:22:39
the intensive care unit. Among
those who did not know until
1:22:42
three days later, the President
and the national security
1:22:46
adviser Jake Sullivan, Well,
tonight Austin released a
1:22:49
statement saying he could have
done a better job informing
1:22:52
people and he takes full
responsibility. President Biden
1:22:56
says he has full confidence in
the defense secretary.
1:23:00
Adam Curry: So this is
interesting. So in this report,
1:23:04
they say Floyd Austin said Ah, I
didn't do that. Right. It means
1:23:09
so is he in the intensive care
or not? Listen again.
1:23:12
Unknown: Well, tonight Austin
released a statement saying he
1:23:14
could have done a better job
informing people.
1:23:17
Adam Curry: So Is he awake? Is
he okay? Can he come to the
1:23:21
balcony and wave if Austin
released a statement or was it
1:23:25
the Pentagon tonight
1:23:26
Unknown: a US official confirms
to NBC News that the Pentagon
1:23:29
did not inform senior officials
in the White House's National
1:23:32
Security Council for three days
that defense secretary Lloyd
1:23:37
Austin had been hospitalized at
Walter Reed Medical Center on
1:23:41
New Year's Day. Walter
1:23:42
Adam Curry: Reed I mean, I'm
telling you, the incarcerated
1:23:44
bit is good. The news not
1:23:46
Unknown: shared with the
American public until Friday,
1:23:49
when the Pentagon announced that
Austin was hospitalized for
1:23:51
complications following a recent
elective medical procedure. And
1:23:56
NBC News has learned the 70 year
old Austin not just
1:23:59
hospitalized, but also in the
intensive care unit for at least
1:24:03
four days. According to two
senior administration officials
1:24:06
asked why his day wasn't
disclosed sooner. A Pentagon
1:24:10
spokesperson tells NBC News This
has been an evolving situation
1:24:14
in which we had to consider a
number of factors. Oh, adding
1:24:17
Secretary Austin is recovering
well and he resumed his full
1:24:20
duties at the Pentagon declining
to explain
1:24:23
Adam Curry: this is different
now they're saying he's back on
1:24:25
the beat. But why isn't he out
on the balcony waving hers.
1:24:29
Unknown: Adding Secretary Austin
is recovering well, and he
1:24:31
resumed his full duties at the
Pentagon declining to explain
1:24:35
what Austin's procedure was and
what complications occurred. The
1:24:39
lack of information strongly
criticized
1:24:42
presidents have issues that
other cabinet members have
1:24:45
issues the public is notified
and there's no real
1:24:48
justification is not acceptable.
1:24:51
America's commitment to Israel
is unwavering. The secretary in
1:24:55
Israel as recently as mid
December, as its war with Hamas
1:24:59
resist Tension in the middle
east. On Thursday, the US
1:25:02
carried out a strike that killed
an Iran backed militia member in
1:25:05
Iraq while Austin was
hospitalized. And
1:25:09
Ally is in Delaware tonight
traveling with the president, a
1:25:11
US official ally, just moments
ago tells me the President Biden
1:25:15
was not informed about Austin's
hospitalization for three days,
1:25:19
either. And you're hearing from
the Secretary himself tonight in
1:25:22
his statement, what's he saying?
That's right, Peter, the
1:25:24
Defense Secretary taking full
responsibility for what he says
1:25:28
were his decisions about
disclosure, saying in part
1:25:31
quote, I recognized I could have
done a better job ensuring the
1:25:34
public was appropriately
informed. I commit to doing
1:25:37
better.
1:25:39
Adam Curry: So this stinks. It
does sounds very Oh, yeah. You
1:25:45
need we need him waving me who's
running the war machine? Maybe
1:25:51
the war machine just like hey,
man, well, I
1:25:53
John C Dvorak: think the war
machine can you file How about
1:25:55
this? How
1:25:56
Adam Curry: about the military
industrial complex, like, went
1:25:58
to the hospital of Meo put a
little machete a little knife to
1:26:01
the throat and said, Hey, man,
you're not doing it. Right. We
1:26:04
need more orders. We just needed
to sell some gear.
1:26:12
John C Dvorak: Maybe that's why
he didn't tell anyone because he
1:26:15
didn't want that debt situation
to occur. That's when he was
1:26:18
afraid. Oh, oh,
1:26:20
Adam Curry: that's even better.
Huh? Huh?
1:26:26
John C Dvorak: Don't have them
show any weakness. So tell Biden
1:26:31
whenever you do not rush, that's
the way I would go. Don't tell
1:26:35
Biden whatever you do. You might
poop his pants. Oh, I'm out now.
1:26:39
I'm fine. Don't I'm sorry. She's
We didn't tell Biden us ashamed.
1:26:43
All
1:26:43
Adam Curry: good. It's all good.
Okay, since since that clip
1:26:48
brought up Israel. I think we
have. Yes. This was an
1:26:57
interesting development. The
Israeli Defense Minister went on
1:27:03
a PR Blitz, and what you're not
seeing in this is all beauty
1:27:08
shots of him looking really this
that guy? He does look kind of
1:27:11
badass. He's gotta look. Yeah,
got that looked at the he's got
1:27:15
the shades on with a helmet.
We're at least I know. He's got
1:27:19
he's got Prime Minister written.
Exactly. That's what this.
1:27:24
That's what this clip is about?
Because he outlines a new phase
1:27:27
of the Gaza war to the press
before he presents it to the
1:27:31
cabinet.
1:27:32
Unknown: Yeah, well, yesterday
evening, Israel's defense
1:27:35
minister, you have got on so
unveils his plans for the
1:27:37
postwar running of Gaza first to
the press. Then he submitted it
1:27:42
to Israel's war cabinet. Now
under his plans, the war would
1:27:47
continue until all hostages have
been released. And until Hamas
1:27:52
has been completely eradicated,
the plan then sets out how,
1:27:58
after the end of the war
Palestinian organization, so
1:28:01
that would take over the running
of the Gaza Strip. It does not,
1:28:05
however, specify which
organizations those would be It
1:28:09
does, however, say that under no
circumstances would that be
1:28:12
Hamas. It also says that there
will be no Israeli civilian
1:28:16
presence in the Gaza Strip after
the war. It does, however, say
1:28:20
that the Israeli military would
continue to be able to carry out
1:28:24
operations in the Gaza Strip if
necessary, to maintain security.
1:28:29
And now I think also worth
pointing out that at this stage,
1:28:31
this is not official Israeli
government policy. It is just a
1:28:35
proposal that's been put forward
by the defense minister that
1:28:39
would have to be approved by the
war cabinet for it to become
1:28:43
policy. Yeah. And another big
question mark that the planet
1:28:46
doesn't appear to tackle is
whether or not Palestinian
1:28:50
civilians who fled northern
parts of the Gaza Strip to flee
1:28:54
the fighting and whether or not
they would be able to return to
1:28:57
their homes, bearing in mind
that much of the Northern Gaza
1:29:01
strip has been completely
flattened by months of intense
1:29:04
fighting and bombardment. I
1:29:06
Adam Curry: mean, just imagine
Lloyd Austin starts laying out
1:29:09
policy to the press about what
we're going to do in a war any
1:29:12
war before the President that
Netanyahu is on loose and hear
1:29:18
something something's going on.
1:29:20
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I agree.
$100, completely,
1:29:24
Adam Curry: including this,
which we discussed one or two
1:29:29
shows ago, after
1:29:30
Unknown: more than 12 weeks of
war in Gaza. A fundamental
1:29:32
question remains what is to
become of the strip and its
1:29:36
people. Now Israeli media
reports allege a government of
1:29:40
Benjamin Netanyahu has held
secret talks with the Democratic
1:29:43
Republic of Congo for a quote,
voluntary resettlement plan. The
1:29:48
Times of Israel, which published
the report says a senior Israeli
1:29:52
official has denied that any
such discussions have taken
1:29:54
place, but Israeli cabinet
members have repeatedly raised
1:29:57
the idea
1:30:00
A quick, like call on the Prime
Minister and the new foreign
1:30:03
minister. This is an opportunity
for planning and immigration
1:30:06
project and to encourage the
migration of residents from Gaza
1:30:10
to countries of the world.
1:30:11
Adam Curry: So they got all
kinds of guys out there saying
1:30:14
stuff without the president. His
whole cabinet is doing press
1:30:20
press briefings.
1:30:22
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, this
like kind of like Federal
1:30:24
Reserve. When they start. Every
board member started yakking
1:30:28
away about US economy.
1:30:30
Adam Curry: Now, it's a little
worse. This is his cabinet is
1:30:34
just doing a you know, we got to
do this. We got to get something
1:30:37
going and we'll send him to the
Congo. I love this Congo idea.
1:30:42
By the way. Yeah, Congo was
great for batteries and all
1:30:45
kinds of stuff, and it's easy to
spark some crap over there.
1:30:50
Meanwhile, Somalia, Somalia. You
recall that Ethiopia, a new
1:30:59
BRICS country, said, Well, you
know what, we're going to open
1:31:02
up a base right under Djibouti.
That's our that's our turf
1:31:06
Djibouti, right there by the
where the where the Houthis are
1:31:11
causing trouble by the opening
of the Red Sea to the Gulf of
1:31:16
Aden. And they said we're just
going to open this bass in
1:31:19
Somaliland, which is not an
official country, but they've
1:31:23
organized and pretend it is and
Somalia. Well, they got a call
1:31:28
from Victoria Nuland. On
1:31:29
Unknown: Saturday, Somali
President Hassan Sheikh Mohammed
1:31:32
signed the law nullifying the
Memorandum of Understanding
1:31:36
signed between the government of
Ethiopia and Somaliland. The
1:31:40
symbolic move comes as Ethiopia,
the breakaway Somali Region
1:31:43
signed a deal on January 1. As
part of the hull economic and
1:31:47
political agreement, Somaliland
plans to lease a 20 kilometer
1:31:51
stretch of land along its
coastline to landlocked
1:31:54
Ethiopia. Somaliland President
Morsi B. Abdi said the deal
1:31:59
included her statement that
Ethiopia would soon recognize
1:32:02
the territory as an independent
country. That is where the bone
1:32:06
of contention lies. Somaliland
is a self declared Republic. It
1:32:10
has taken issue for years with
the process and the legally
1:32:13
binding character of the State
of Union law, which was to form
1:32:17
a unified country after Somalia
and Somaliland respectively
1:32:20
gained independence from Italy
and Britain, the EU chairperson,
1:32:25
if you're planning to engage
without delay in negotiations to
1:32:29
settle their differences, I'm
1:32:31
Adam Curry: sorry, it's Africa
today, but you can't get any
1:32:33
other reporting about this
stuff. Even
1:32:36
John C Dvorak: Africa could they
could find it spokes, they
1:32:39
modeled a better
1:32:40
Adam Curry: job. They have
better ones. This like the
1:32:43
weekend team or something? Hey,
you get in here. I know it's
1:32:50
horrible. But
1:32:52
John C Dvorak: I let's just
summarize it for us. Okay.
1:32:55
Adam Curry: So, Somaliland
claims independence and they are
1:32:59
the Republic of Somaliland. They
are in the the eastern tip, just
1:33:03
the tip of Somalia. And they've
done a deal apparently, with
1:33:09
with the BRICs. And they said,
Well, you know what, we're just
1:33:12
going to work with Ethiopia,
recent BRICS member and we're
1:33:15
going to just create a base
because you know, Ethiopia is
1:33:18
landlocked, Ethiopia doesn't
need a doesn't need a port not
1:33:21
talking about ports of base, a
military base. So I'm going to
1:33:24
presume China or somebody else
would have a president said this
1:33:29
cannot this will not stand under
Djibouti. Which is right above
1:33:34
it is
1:33:35
John C Dvorak: too close. Yes.
Right next door can't have that.
1:33:39
No, there was a shoot down to
the drones as they take off. I
1:33:43
had a with a pistol. I
1:33:45
Adam Curry: have one more. I
think this is the clip here. I'm
1:33:50
not sure. There was a great nap
pop. Let me see. Is this the net
1:33:54
pop clip? Yes, blink and blink.
So Blinken is back in the
1:33:59
region. He's in the region. Cuz
he's got it. You know. She's
1:34:04
looking my president. is brain
dead. I've got my my defense
1:34:09
minister is in the hospital.
He's being bald. I gotta do the.
1:34:15
John C Dvorak: The boss,
1:34:16
Unknown: US Secretary of State
Antony Blinken says he wants to
1:34:18
make sure the conflict in Gaza
doesn't spread. This morning he
1:34:22
traveled to Jordan as part of a
week long diplomatic tour aimed
1:34:25
at calming tensions. Blinken
says he's particularly concerned
1:34:29
about exchanges of fire on
Israel's northern border with
1:34:32
Lebanon.
1:34:34
US Secretary of State Antony
Blinken week long whistlestop
1:34:38
tour is aimed at calming
tensions to to spike.
1:34:42
Adam Curry: Their love they call
it a whistle stop tour is kind
1:34:46
of weird. US
1:34:48
Unknown: Secretary of State
Antony Blinken week long
1:34:51
whistlestop tour is aimed at
calming tensions to to spike
1:34:55
Israel's war with her massive
again, this is not just work a
1:34:59
data problem to see if there is
genuine concern the conflict is
1:35:03
already escalating.
1:35:06
We have an intense focus on
preventing this conflict from
1:35:09
spreading far too many
Palestinians have been killed
1:35:13
especially children.
1:35:15
Adam Curry: This is interesting
language to many pout far too
1:35:18
many Palestinians have been
killed. We figured it would be
1:35:22
1000 That would be okay. It's
not weird. Far too many, far too
1:35:29
many. Well, how many was okay?
Was there it was their level
1:35:33
that was that was agreed to like
well, you can kill a couple of
1:35:36
them.
1:35:36
Unknown: We have an intense
focus on preventing this
1:35:39
conflict from spreading. Far too
many Palestinians have been
1:35:42
killed, especially children. Far
too many remain incredibly
1:35:49
challenged in terms of their
1:35:51
Adam Curry: access to food. This
far too many is bad language for
1:35:55
water,
1:35:55
Unknown: to medicine to the
essentials of life as the wheels
1:35:59
of diplomacy territories,
1:36:01
Adam Curry: the essentials life
water, food, and then a big tank
1:36:04
explosion right after it's the
food
1:36:06
Unknown: for water, and medicine
to the essentials of life. As
1:36:10
the wheels of diplomacy turn in
Gaza, there's been no letup in
1:36:15
the past three months. Israeli
strikes claim more lives. food
1:36:19
and medicine are increasingly
scarce. And entire neighborhoods
1:36:23
are reduced to rubble. Rubble,
the UN's humanitarian chief said
1:36:28
Gaza has, quote, simply become
uninhabitable. But Israel says
1:36:33
that it is making progress. Yes,
1:36:35
Adam Curry: progress. But far
too many. We had agreed only
1:36:39
1500 dead, particularly
children. And they just went
1:36:43
above and beyond. Can't believe
them. No good.
1:36:47
John C Dvorak: Somebody's trying
to make the thing spread
1:36:50
somewhere. I believe it's the
Russians. Take the pressure off
1:36:55
the Ukraine situation. They got
to resolve that. So they had the
1:36:59
launch 200 missiles from
Hezbollah, supposedly these
1:37:03
numbers are all dubious, but
they suppose the last launch 200
1:37:06
missiles what what's the point?
They had to be told to do this.
1:37:10
They don't want to do it. And
Lebanon doesn't like the idea,
1:37:13
but they're doing it anyway.
1:37:14
Adam Curry: Now Lebanon doesn't
want any Lebanon can't use much
1:37:17
more problem. So then somebody's
1:37:21
John C Dvorak: trying to
somebody's trying to stoke
1:37:24
issues, I think I believe it's
the Russians because they're
1:37:26
trying to get people out who
would make sense. I mean, we
1:37:31
can't the Russians are sick of
this stupid Ukraine war and they
1:37:34
want to get that resolved, you
know, sick
1:37:36
Adam Curry: of the Ukraine war,
the Ukrainians. Oh, they left no
1:37:42
men to fight. And it's cold now.
It's very cold. It's no longer
1:37:47
the fighting season. So they're
just doing drones. And the
1:37:50
drones have a flaw. I mean,
these are pre programmed drones,
1:37:53
a lot of them so they fly a set
route and that the guys just sit
1:37:57
there and wait. Okay. Done. It
goes another one. Yep. Done.
1:38:01
Here's NPR with the talk of this
expansion up north. 10s
1:38:06
Unknown: of 1000s of people have
been evacuated from both sides
1:38:09
of the Israel Lebanon border.
Their air raid sirens blaring
1:38:13
across northern Israel today.
Lebanon's Hezbollah militia says
1:38:17
it fired dozens of rockets
across the border this morning.
1:38:20
And it's calling this just an
initial response to the
1:38:23
airstrike that killed a Hamas
leader this past week. As you
1:38:26
mentioned in Lebanon's capital,
Beirut, Israel says it has sent
1:38:29
tanks artillery and airstrikes
across the border into Lebanon
1:38:33
for the past few days. Israel's
defense minister yo have Golan
1:38:37
inspected troops yesterday at
the Northern Command and then he
1:38:40
recorded this video clip of me
also OMA to Abu Mahdi fame in
1:38:46
which he says Israel prefers a
political settlement with
1:38:49
Hezbollah rather than a military
one,
1:38:51
but that we are quote close to
the point where the hourglass
1:38:55
will turn
1:38:58
Adam Curry: Huh Well, the sad
thing is if you ask the Israelis
1:39:03
or the Palestinians or the
Lebanese no one wants death and
1:39:08
destruction. This is turf wars
Bev Pro, probably just all money
1:39:15
related.
1:39:18
John C Dvorak: So we have
another area breaking out with
1:39:20
issues mostly caused by us What?
1:39:26
Adam Curry: No, say it ain't. So
what is this about now? Serb
1:39:30
John C Dvorak: elections now
there's all kinds of weirdness
1:39:32
going on in Serbia. The Balkan
1:39:34
Unknown: nation of Serbia is a
flashpoint in Europe struggle
1:39:37
between democracy and autocratic
leaders. Russia's war in Ukraine
1:39:41
heightened Servius importance as
it resists Western pressure to
1:39:44
join sanctions on Russia. Now
the nation is being torn apart
1:39:48
by protests accusing the
government of authoritarian
1:39:50
President Alexander Vukovich,
who's a strong food now I have
1:39:54
widespread voter fraud in last
month's elections. Ali Rogen has
1:39:58
more
1:40:04
In Central Belgrade chants of
Bucha You are a thief. More than
1:40:07
two weeks after what protesters
say was a stolen election. Lou
1:40:14
Cheech declared a sweeping
mandate for his Serbian
1:40:16
Progressive Party following wins
in parliamentary and local
1:40:19
elections that he called ahead
of schedule, but international
1:40:23
observers say Bucha his ruling
party dominates Serbian media
1:40:26
coverage and intimidates
independent journalists giving
1:40:29
him an unfair advantage. On
election day, there were reports
1:40:33
of violence, ballot stuffing and
allegations of people getting
1:40:36
bused into different cities to
vote. Since the protesters have
1:40:42
a mass in Belgrade, demanding
the results being old, they've
1:40:45
paused for Orthodox Serbian
holidays but will likely resume
1:40:48
in mid January.
1:40:52
People are on the street
dissatisfied with the election,
1:40:55
which is obvious everyone
confirmed that there has been a
1:40:58
serious disruption of the
electoral process. And that is
1:41:01
why the elections have to be
repeated.
1:41:05
Opposition Coalition leader
Marika Teppich has been on a
1:41:08
hunger strike since the
election. She addressed the
1:41:10
crowds on December 30, just
before she was hospitalized.
1:41:16
I'm sorry that I can't say much.
The only thing I can say is that
1:41:21
I have already said everything
and that these elections must be
1:41:24
annulled.
1:41:25
Adam Curry: Well, why couldn't
what was what was she
1:41:27
hospitalized? What happened?
1:41:29
John C Dvorak: She's on a hunger
strike as she's about to drop
1:41:31
dead from lack of eating.
1:41:34
Adam Curry: Well, so does you
think this has to do with Serbia
1:41:36
as Trump should
1:41:37
John C Dvorak: have gone on a
hunger strike? You
1:41:39
Adam Curry: would still be on
it. Do you think that this has
1:41:44
anything to do with Serbia being
right under right next to
1:41:47
Hungary?
1:41:49
John C Dvorak: Yes, something to
do with it. They tried to
1:41:51
explain it. They never do a
fully a full job. The Serbian
1:41:54
guy who won by the way is just a
casper milquetoast character.
1:41:58
And he's just trying to I don't
know whether he won or not, or
1:42:03
how fraudulent the election was.
But it's just they run this
1:42:08
story, I believe on PBS to kind
of give us some parallels to
1:42:11
what Trump might try to do. Like
Trump, because this guy likes
1:42:15
Putin. And you know, because
everyone has to hate Putin, or
1:42:19
he's no good. And we were part
of what's going on here. This
1:42:23
this. These clips are
interesting as it gets on with
1:42:27
when they start discussing it
with our people. Here's Luke
1:42:30
part to teach
1:42:31
Adam Curry: us. Let me rewind
that. Blue teach
1:42:34
Unknown: has defended the
results. He and Russia say the
1:42:37
protests were being controlled
by the West,
1:42:39
me quote, some of the voting was
very political. We want to steer
1:42:43
our own college. If you don't
mind paying the price for all
1:42:46
the rubbish and lies, because we
know what the cost is, the
1:42:51
election process will be
concluded by the institutions of
1:42:55
the Republic of Serbia. For more
1:42:58
on the implications of these
election results, I'm joined by
1:43:01
Edward P. Joseph. He teaches at
Johns Hopkins School of Advanced
1:43:04
International Studies, and
served for a dozen years in the
1:43:07
Balkans, including with the US
Army, he has observed and
1:43:10
organized numerous elections in
the region. Edward, thank you so
1:43:14
much for being here. First of
all, can you tell us a little
1:43:16
bit about what sort of leader
Alexandre Bucha, which has been
1:43:20
both internally within Serbia,
and with regard to other
1:43:24
countries,
1:43:25
President Bucha, which is the
classic autocratic leader, he's
1:43:29
attempting to establish thorough
control of Serbia, with a veneer
1:43:34
of democracy. And that's what we
see in these recent elections.
1:43:36
This is what is known as
illiberal democracy. His
1:43:40
neighbor and his mentor and
patron within the EU, of course
1:43:44
is Prime Minister Viktor Orban
of Hungary.
1:43:48
Adam Curry: Okay, I told you, I
had gotten to do with that. So
1:43:53
John C Dvorak: this guy, this
guy that they're talking to is a
1:43:56
PhD from Johns Hopkins and he
Oregon that what is an American
1:43:59
organizing route elections in
these areas, but what is that?
1:44:04
Well, how about explain that to
me, okay. I
1:44:06
Adam Curry: will explain it to
you. I will explain it from this
1:44:08
article, one election system
vendor in Serbia, guess which
1:44:14
one?
1:44:17
John C Dvorak: Dominions Yes,
yes.
1:44:20
Adam Curry: They even have a
software development office in
1:44:24
Belgrade. There you go. Just a
little point, little point.
1:44:34
John C Dvorak: So they and then
Audubon, of course, who's still
1:44:38
seen as the fly in the globalist
ointment is the bad guy for some
1:44:45
reason. And she's not on board
with any of the bullcrap he's
1:44:50
not in this guy's like, I guess
one of his protegees and this is
1:44:53
an issue with us. Us
particularly is going to look
1:44:57
Unknown: three and Orban set the
model for this where there's a
1:45:00
The nearer of democracy where
you hold elections, but the
1:45:02
elections are actually
meaningless because the ruling
1:45:06
controls has such dominance over
the media landscape, the
1:45:11
opposition is weakened. The
media are hugely dominated by
1:45:15
the ruling party. And in the
polis activists are intimidated
1:45:20
and that's what we've seen. And
so
1:45:21
John C Dvorak: that sounds like
us,
1:45:22
Adam Curry: yes. Hmm.
1:45:25
John C Dvorak: Was the latest
there's some, I think, was a Pew
1:45:28
or one of these guys did or
Gallup did a research on the
1:45:32
media at political affiliation
and something like 95% of
1:45:37
everyone who's in the media
today is a Democrat. Yeah. That
1:45:43
sounds like a recipe for
disaster. Where's
1:45:46
Adam Curry: the 10%? Show me
that? It's not Fox News.
1:45:51
John C Dvorak: No. Well, yes.
Elections
1:45:54
Adam Curry: Newsmax I'm sorry
Newsmax there it is. But that's
1:45:57
Cuomo, kids. One
1:45:59
John C Dvorak: One American
news. No, that's it. One
1:46:01
American news. One American
news. Yeah, that's it. That one
1:46:03
Oh, word made up girl. Sir, Serb
elections rigged for
1:46:09
Unknown: and there was nothing
requiring these elections to be
1:46:11
held at this time. So why did he
call for these elections at this
1:46:14
time? Well,
1:46:15
that's exactly right. These are
again, early elections. And the
1:46:20
best explanation for them is
that President Bush which, as a
1:46:24
result in large part mistaken US
policy, by the by the
1:46:27
administration, was in a crisis
in late September, there was a
1:46:33
shocking confrontation in the
north of Kosovo. This is where
1:46:37
NATO troops, including US troops
are deployed. And the Kosovo
1:46:42
Police patrol have been a Serb
militia group heavily armed that
1:46:46
could not have entered into
Kosovo without Serbian
1:46:50
authorities known and of course,
that immediately cast suspicion
1:46:54
on President Bucha himself and
this attack which led
1:47:00
John C Dvorak: so we can go in
there. Fix the next door
1:47:04
neighbor can't go in there.
1:47:05
Adam Curry: How could you mean
Hungary? No,
1:47:07
John C Dvorak: no, they have no
Serbia. Right is the next door
1:47:11
neighbor to Kosovo? Oh, yes. So
they can go in we can go were
1:47:15
there and UN's there but who did
they can go in? Okay. I just
1:47:18
wanted to make sure that
everyone
1:47:19
Adam Curry: guys there's been
there's been problems in the
1:47:22
region in the past. So we should
go in, of course, we create the
1:47:26
problem. We were dicks.
1:47:30
Unknown: And of course, that
immediately cast suspicion on
1:47:33
President voltage himself. And
this attack which led to a
1:47:38
shootout in the north killing
cause a police officer and three
1:47:41
serves was a huge shock, because
it showed in fact that the US
1:47:46
policy of trying to supplicate a
placate President voltage and
1:47:51
somehow bring him over from
autocratic pro hungry pro Russia
1:47:57
orientation had failed. It was
that crisis very likely, that
1:48:01
President Bush wanted to put
behind him reestablish his
1:48:05
authority as as the sole
preeminent political figure in
1:48:09
Serbia and move forward. But it
turns out that that is not going
1:48:13
to be quite as simple as he
thought.
1:48:16
Adam Curry: Right? So it's it's
strategic for the region. And we
1:48:20
want to make it into someone who
dances to our pipes. Exactly.
1:48:24
John C Dvorak: Of course. orb is
enough of a pain in the ass. We
1:48:29
don't need this joker.
1:48:31
Adam Curry: Where did these guys
get the time to think about all
1:48:33
this? Where
1:48:34
John C Dvorak: do idea Where's
Hopkins is part of the problem.
1:48:37
Where's
1:48:37
Adam Curry: Victoria Nuland? Let
me see Victoria.
1:48:40
John C Dvorak: She's probably
been there, Victoria. Let's say
1:48:42
you're looking her up play the
last clip.
1:48:44
Unknown: So let's talk a little
bit more about US policy towards
1:48:47
Serbia and the different
priorities that the United
1:48:49
States is balancing. How have
they approached Alexandra
1:48:52
fruitage. What do you make of
their response to this crisis?
1:48:56
I would say this about US
policy, which has got again,
1:49:01
brought us to the this brink.
President Biden has gotten the
1:49:04
Balkans right. Consistently,
President Biden himself
1:49:08
understands the region and he
set off his administration with
1:49:11
the words that we are in a
challenge of democracy versus
1:49:14
autocracy. So President Biden
has gotten it right. But as the
1:49:18
administration has gotten to
completely wrong, they've
1:49:20
abandoned that. So we have a
disparity in the Balkans where
1:49:24
the United States treats Serbia
as neighbors to a much harsher,
1:49:30
higher standard. And I should
point out we've had two violent
1:49:34
confrontations in Kosovo this
year, we've had potential issues
1:49:38
in Montenegro, which is a NATO
ally. And now within the
1:49:41
government, there are pro
Russian elements within that
1:49:44
NATO ally, and we have a brewing
crisis, possibly even beginning
1:49:49
this month in Bosnia
Herzegovina. This is the mistake
1:49:53
of the Biden administration has
been to treat President voltage
1:49:57
to this different softer
standard On the belief that
1:50:02
somehow we can bring him over
instead, what it has done is it
1:50:06
has projected fear the US
basically projecting fear of
1:50:11
Belgrade, which President voted
correctly interprets as weakness
1:50:16
and takes advantage. And this
all goes, of course, to the
1:50:19
benefit of his ally, which is
Russia.
1:50:23
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, we had
clips of problems brewing in
1:50:29
Serbia, I think. Didn't they?
Wasn't there something like
1:50:36
something with their money? If I
recall, well, what is this? Let
1:50:42
John C Dvorak: me see. I don't
remember the money thing, but I
1:50:44
do know that. This situation is
I find it interesting that he
1:50:49
says that Biden's got it right.
But the administration has got
1:50:52
it wrong. Which says to me
again, like everyone else says
1:50:55
Biden's not running anything
though. No.
1:50:59
Adam Curry: This is well, the
coverage was good, but we don't
1:51:04
understand it. There's
1:51:05
John C Dvorak: no There's no we
have no we must Well, no, but at
1:51:08
least we're but familiarising
are
1:51:09
Adam Curry: there Serbs in the
audience come on Serbs talk to
1:51:12
us Serbs.
1:51:13
John C Dvorak: This serves hate
our show.
1:51:15
Adam Curry: How about this? Even
though we break up the show a
1:51:19
little bit differently. Very
short donation segment today.
1:51:26
It has no resources. No entry.
That's right. Second half a show
1:51:33
is back. Finally. That's right,
everybody. Second half a show
1:51:39
what's going on out there in the
universe. And
1:51:42
Unknown: now to our number one
trending story on CBS miami.com
1:51:47
It involves talk of alien
sightings at Bayside marketplace
1:51:52
on New Year's day there was a
massive police response in
1:51:55
downtown Miami. More than 50
Young people armed with sticks
1:51:59
began fighting. We say juveniles
were also setting off fireworks
1:52:03
causing chaos.
1:52:04
So now people are posting online
saying that police weren't there
1:52:08
to handle a group of rowdy teens
but rather eight to 10 feet
1:52:12
tall, shadowy aliens conspiracy
theories are saying a big
1:52:18
creature could be seen standing
in front of the entrance to the
1:52:22
shopping area Bayside today, the
phrases Miami mall and aliens of
1:52:27
Miami have been among the top 10
searches on Twitter's trending
1:52:31
tab. Twitter of course now
called x. And Google News even
1:52:35
has several reports questioning
the events. So
1:52:39
we reached out to the Miami
Police Department they issued a
1:52:42
statement saying in part quote,
there were no aliens UFOs or
1:52:46
ETS. No airports were closed, no
power outages. facepalm emoji
1:52:51
was included in the statement.
Yeah,
1:52:53
Adam Curry: obviously a cover
up, cover up by the Miami
1:52:56
obvious cover up by the Miami
Police. Because there's no way
1:53:00
you would have this. I mean,
there were hundreds of police
1:53:04
vehicles that at least for
helicopters hovering overhead.
1:53:07
It was obvious. This was not
just some kids fighting at the
1:53:11
mall. These were eight to 10
feet, aliens with fire sticks.
1:53:16
And we have eyewitness reports
all over tick tock. Hey, by the
1:53:20
way, whatever happened to
getting rid of tick tock? Where
1:53:23
did that go? What Why did that
stop? I thought tick tock was
1:53:28
dangerous to democracy. Serious
question Trump would
1:53:33
John C Dvorak: have gotten rid
of it but no, no, that's just
1:53:35
benefiting the Democrat party.
Oh,
1:53:39
Adam Curry: so the lobby is
worked out that I guess. Yeah,
1:53:43
there's
1:53:43
John C Dvorak: a cash some cash
changed hands perhaps. Well,
1:53:47
Adam Curry: we need to be
talking to people about this
1:53:49
because it was everyone was all
in we had hearings. Tick tock is
1:53:53
bad. China's killing our
children, Scott Adams. He's
1:53:57
convinced tick tock is going to
ruin America. But yet it's still
1:54:02
here. And this is where we find
eyewitnesses to this event. So
1:54:07
it says
1:54:07
Unknown: nobody's going to talk
about it. I figured you know
1:54:12
Adam Curry: there are some
expletives in this that I didn't
1:54:14
have time to cut out
1:54:15
Unknown: I was I was down in
Miami for the New Year's use and
1:54:19
me and my girl I got a little
timeshare we was down there on
1:54:23
like a mini vacay you know just
1:54:25
Adam Curry: I love this guy by
the way. need my girl we had a
1:54:28
timeshare down in Miami little
vacay or two
1:54:30
Unknown: years old right so
anyway, we happen to be at that
1:54:33
mall so um we are footlocker
whatever next thing you know you
1:54:38
start hearing all this commotion
outside sound like fire like
1:54:40
firecrackers or something? So,
you know, I'm saying I you know,
1:54:43
I grab a close I'm like, yo, we
bout to get about here because,
1:54:46
you know, I originally thought
that they were shooting in
1:54:49
Santo, you know, some type of
fight that broke out or whatever
1:54:53
the case is, because you know,
we're not familiar with Miami.
1:54:55
We're not familiar with the
city. So I'm like, damn, I
1:54:58
haven't got my blog. So you I
1:55:00
Adam Curry: got my black I guess
that's a Glock blakedown We
1:55:03
bought
1:55:04
Unknown: above a swerve sight
crazy like we just see all these
1:55:09
people running like you know,
fat fat fat chicks you know old
1:55:14
ladies like while I'm talking
about moving insane like yo
1:55:18
people even more I'm talking
about moving so you know my
1:55:22
garage like what's going on like
fuck all that we out like I'm
1:55:24
not gonna ask no questions we
just gonna follow the crowd.
1:55:27
Next thing you know, you know
real like gunshots start going
1:55:30
off so you know I'm saying like
we try to we try to follow that
1:55:33
follow the crowd get out of
there I look back on the back no
1:55:37
capital no cat I look back it
looked like like like a big ass
1:55:42
shadow. But it was solid at the
same time like a few like a few
1:55:46
shadows, but they were solid at
the same time. And it almost
1:55:50
looked like they was coming our
direction like they was chasing
1:55:53
us, but they was disappearing
and reappearing closer. So I'm
1:55:57
like yo, what so we started
really moving and next thing you
1:56:01
know, we start hearing more
gunshots like these dudes start
1:56:03
firing that this shit get
outside map police all that, you
1:56:07
know, I'm saying they started to
police this like trying to get
1:56:10
all the people that ran out the
mall. They like trying to like
1:56:13
detain these people, whatever.
But you know, me and my girl we
1:56:16
ended up just, you know, sliding
past all that and everything
1:56:20
like that. But you know a lot of
people saying Why didn't nobody
1:56:22
film and all that when that type
of shit is going on? Him saying
1:56:26
shit like that? Like some
paranormal? Nobody thinking
1:56:29
about no phone?
1:56:31
Adam Curry: No, no, there's a
bunch of Jhansi DeVore acts with
1:56:34
no phone at all. So they didn't
get any no video.
1:56:39
John C Dvorak: Ah, well, they
see this is the problem. I don't
1:56:42
care what monster you're gonna
see coming in and out of
1:56:47
dimensionality. As he describes
it, someone's gonna be pulling
1:56:51
out their phone.
1:56:53
Adam Curry: Well, we didn't get
any pictures of any teenagers
1:56:55
shooting either. So this is very
1:56:58
John C Dvorak: successful. And
that's the point there.
1:57:00
Adam Curry: Well, here's here's
what's going on. This is just
1:57:04
the beginning.
1:57:06
John C Dvorak: Wait, let me
think. Wait, let me stop you.
1:57:08
Okay, that's a movie coming out.
That has something to do with
1:57:11
something about this thing. That
would be great movies bowl of
1:57:15
crap. If I
1:57:16
Adam Curry: if I could roll out
a movie trailer that would be
1:57:18
the best right now? No, this is
project BlueBee. This is this is
1:57:22
where we start to and of course
you're going to use tick tock as
1:57:25
you said it benefits the elites
the Democrat Party. And that's
1:57:29
why tick tock has not gone yet.
Now this is where we start to
1:57:34
break the Joe Rogan will be all
over this. This is where I start
1:57:37
to bring in the aliens people
have seen it that clearly. I
1:57:41
witness and eventually these
aliens will start talking to us
1:57:45
and and then we can get rid of
religion and we can all go
1:57:49
towards the aliens. And we can
follow the new world order that
1:57:53
is and you'll see more of these
craft in the air that will all
1:57:57
be projected Project Blue Beam
is has I call Project Blue Beam
1:58:01
now activated. It's activated
and it's biblical. It's been
1:58:04
predicted. That's been predicted
this it's it's all coming now.
1:58:08
This is just just the start. So
keep an eye out in blue beam
1:58:12
activated. Yes, I will. I will
stay on the beat. Yes,
1:58:16
John C Dvorak: you this is your
all yours. Thanks. Unless
1:58:19
there's a local phenomenon takes
place which I will use a regular
1:58:23
camera to film. Yes,
1:58:26
Adam Curry: you will. You'll go
out right away. Now there was
1:58:30
another interesting legal case.
By the
1:58:34
John C Dvorak: way, I do have a
ticket if you don't want to go
1:58:36
into if you're not following up.
I have a tick tock clip. Tock
1:58:40
tock tick tock. lunatic, there's
a lunatic. That's this
1:58:47
threatening everybody should get
should just be arrested
1:58:50
immediately. But unlike your
clip, yes. I took care of the
1:58:56
profanity issues.
1:58:58
Adam Curry: I'm glad you did. I
apologize. I'm sorry. I missed
1:59:01
it. I didn't have time to do it.
1:59:03
Unknown: So I do wish death on
transphobic people because they
1:59:06
wish death on me and have caused
death to many, many, many of my
1:59:11
brothers and sisters in the
trans community. I want to stab
1:59:15
all of you to death as many
times as I can. I want to stab
1:59:19
you in the throat and twist it
like I'm carving a pumpkin. I
1:59:23
want to shred you into tiny
pieces. I want to tear your
1:59:28
bones out from your body. I want
to scoop your brains out with a
1:59:32
spoon. I want to eat your flesh.
1:59:38
Adam Curry: I'd say decaf decaf
may be a good idea for this
1:59:42
person.
1:59:43
John C Dvorak: Minimally but I
just want to show you how it's
1:59:46
done by a pro. You
1:59:48
Adam Curry: didn't do that the
clip came that way. Yes, I did.
1:59:50
You did that. Yeah, that's
pretty good. The
1:59:53
John C Dvorak: clip was
extremely well you could tell
1:59:56
was very profane. This
1:59:57
Adam Curry: is the problem with
social media these days. I mean,
2:00:01
if you go on X, he's gone X for
five minutes. You're seeing
2:00:04
people kill each other. You see
murderers, you seeing. It's
2:00:08
terrible. It really is.
2:00:10
John C Dvorak: It's just yeah,
these doofus is like threatening
2:00:12
everyone. Yeah.
2:00:14
Adam Curry: And not that I'm
against free speech, you should
2:00:17
be able to I mean, that's
actually threatening. I don't
2:00:18
think that I think there may be
limits to what you can do there.
2:00:23
Now, I'm all for free, you know,
open news media, but it's not
2:00:26
like, it's not a healthy thing.
To be going on social media and
2:00:31
looking at all this stuff. It's
I agree and tick tock, as you
2:00:35
know, I've loaded up the app
once or twice, and I deleted it
2:00:38
immediately, because you stop
for one second on how this is
2:00:42
kind of let's see how this guy
gets killed. Oh, man, that's
2:00:45
horrible. And then you get five
more. And then you scroll in and
2:00:48
scroll down because you're
watching them you shouldn't be
2:00:50
watching. No, exactly. It's very
unhealthy.
2:00:53
John C Dvorak: I do not have an
app. I never use an app. I use
2:00:56
the by going to a web browser
browser. I goes on done the
2:01:01
browser and I type in tik
tok.com. Yes, it brings up a
2:01:07
brings up and I'll search for
something specifically. And
2:01:11
maybe I'll find it or I won't.
2:01:13
Adam Curry: Now do you look for
crazy transgender people was
2:01:16
that your search
2:01:17
John C Dvorak: people send those
to me this was sent to me by one
2:01:20
of our producers. So this guy,
2:01:24
Adam Curry: this is a this is
something that I saw this
2:01:27
morning. It was on MSNBC the
Katie Fang show never seen her
2:01:32
show before. I was a miracle
because I was watching it live
2:01:37
on the on YouTube TV while
taking a shower or you know,
2:01:42
shaving, electrocute
2:01:43
John C Dvorak: yourself.
2:01:45
Adam Curry: And, like, Ah, I
wish I had this clip of this guy
2:01:51
and of the situation. And lo and
behold that MSNBC had the whole
2:01:56
show up on YouTube so I was able
to get these two clips. And we
2:02:01
know what's going on here but I
just wanted to accentuate the
2:02:05
point of what's happening. In
this particular case
2:02:08
Unknown: in May of 2022. Rapper
Young Thug whose given name is
2:02:13
Jeffrey Lamar Williams and 27
other defendants were charged in
2:02:16
a sweeping 65 count indictment,
accusing the suspects of being
2:02:20
part of a criminal street gang
named why SL or young slime
2:02:25
life. Rico indictment alleges
Young Thug and otherwise all
2:02:29
members committed crimes like
murder, armed robbery,
2:02:32
aggravated assault with a deadly
weapon fest drug dealing,
2:02:35
carjacking and witness
intimidation. Young dog is
2:02:38
charged with eight out of the 65
total counts. Since this arrest
2:02:43
Young Thug has been in the Cobb
County Jail for nearly two years
2:02:45
awaiting trial. And in November,
prosecutors secured a win win
2:02:49
the presiding judge agreed to
allow them to use relevant rap
2:02:53
lyrics in the trial as evidence
but the use of these lyrics
2:02:57
raises the question of whether
that's constitutional in the
2:03:00
first place. After all Johnny
Cash and get arrested for
2:03:03
singing. I shot a man in Reno
just to watch him die.
2:03:08
Adam Curry: Next idiot so what
you're what was not in this
2:03:12
report at all and what you won't
hear but I want to circle back
2:03:16
to it is this is about drill
rap. And this is something I
2:03:20
learned from all we talked about
it extensively when that whole
2:03:23
gang got arrested in New York.
Drill rap is very popular. This
2:03:28
is where gangs are are indeed
killing each other and then make
2:03:33
a hip hop songs about it. The
sick part of this is the music
2:03:37
industry uses this this drill
rap. Once you know once
2:03:45
something starts hitting the
algos in YouTube, then it hits
2:03:48
the algos in Spotify, then they
sign these drill rappers to a
2:03:55
sub label of a major label and
they're making money off of it.
2:03:59
We've talked about I don't know
if you remember, they are
2:04:01
literally making money off of
black men killing each other.
2:04:07
And glorifying it. It's it
started in the UK. And it's both
2:04:12
it though Yeah, it's huge over
in the UK is big in America. And
2:04:17
it's what's disgusting about it
is that this is the music
2:04:21
industry. They are they are
promoting this they are
2:04:24
propagating this they do not
care. And so of course they
2:04:29
bring in the hugest music
industry douche bag lawyer to
2:04:34
defend it.
2:04:35
Unknown: Joining me now is Scott
Grubin criminal defense attorney
2:04:38
in Georgia who previously
represented Kenneth Chesbro. In
2:04:40
the Fulton County Election
interference Rico case. So let's
2:04:44
focus a little bit on some of
these lyrics. They include,
2:04:46
quote, without a lot of
followers, a perfect leader, a
2:04:49
boss, I call the shots another
one for slimes, you know, I'll
2:04:53
kill another one. And I never
killed anybody but I got
2:04:57
something to do with that body.
2:04:59
Adam Curry: No Wait until you
hear this guy's defense. Scott,
2:05:03
what
2:05:03
Unknown: happened to the First
Amendment? In this case?
2:05:06
I think the problem here is that
rappers are not given the same
2:05:11
artistic license, as other
artists are in music and other
2:05:16
industries. I always give the
example you just gave an example
2:05:20
about Johnny Cash. I'd like to
give an example about the actor
2:05:23
Joe Pesci. Alright, think for a
minute Joe Pesci is prosecuted
2:05:27
for some sort of violent crime.
With the prosecutor tried to
2:05:31
admit evidence of some of his
scenes in his movies like
2:05:35
Goodfellas, like casino, where
he's engaging in violent acts
2:05:39
where he's threatening violent
acts? Of course they wouldn't.
2:05:42
And if they did, the judge
wouldn't let it in. Why? Because
2:05:46
everybody knows that Job has she
is playing a part. He's playing
2:05:51
whatever, whatever character
he's playing on that movie.
2:05:54
Well, guess what? So Williams,
this man is not named Young
2:05:59
Thug. This man is named Jeffrey
Williams. And he's playing a
2:06:02
character too. So when he says
those things on the big slime, I
2:06:07
have something to do with that
body. How is that any different
2:06:10
than Joe Pesci saying, hey,
looking at me I'm gonna kill you
2:06:14
on Goodfellas it's really not
and for some reason and I think
2:06:18
there might be arguments as to
what some of those reasons are.
2:06:21
Racism rap artists are not given
the artistic license and freedom
2:06:26
that these other artists are
2:06:28
Adam Curry: they should arrest
all these these record
2:06:31
executives abreast the labels
arrest the Spotify executives
2:06:36
arrest YouTube people
responsible for promoting this
2:06:40
this is this is really
atrocious. It's so just sick.
2:06:47
And this and this is how these
guys did racist.
2:06:52
John C Dvorak: Fascinating
clips. I thank you. Thank you.
2:06:56
Because the argument is logical,
I think is totally logical, but
2:07:01
the background indicates
otherwise. In other words, if
2:07:05
you don't know about the what's
going on, at the bait base, it's
2:07:10
not baseless, but a base level
you know what's going on? You
2:07:14
can't the argument is specious.
Yes but the fact that you throw
2:07:18
the specious argument out there
because it makes nothing but
2:07:20
sense it because logical makes
this interesting. Thank you. I
2:07:26
know there's like I think
everybody out there would at
2:07:29
least find some level of
interest in that. racy thing you
2:07:34
just brought in. Yes,
2:07:35
Adam Curry: I would hope so.
2:07:37
John C Dvorak: Well never
discuss it again. I
2:07:38
Adam Curry: hope well, you never
know. There is one more tick
2:07:42
tock related clip I just had
this for the last show
2:07:55
that's right everybody's vape
wars now even even discussed on
2:08:02
D H unplugged how big tobacco
companies bought up vape
2:08:06
companies was it for like, what
did they buy that vape company
2:08:11
for like $20 billion in this
outrageous amount of money and
2:08:15
they wrote it off for 400
million like okay, that was that
2:08:19
we failed and and if you look at
the statistics, cigarette
2:08:24
smoking as backup, it's on the
rise, but we still have these
2:08:28
idiot kids vaping which in my
from my research is healthier
2:08:34
than smoking. There may be other
issues but I'm a vapor and and I
2:08:40
like it I enjoyed I stopped
smoking tobacco and other other
2:08:44
plants product, other plant
products, which I feel are
2:08:47
perfectly fine for people to
smoke, but it wasn't for me
2:08:49
anymore. But vaping Oh, no, no,
we're taking money right out of
2:08:53
the Big Tobacco is pockets which
directly affects the master
2:08:58
states agreement, which is the
money that that states receive
2:09:05
as compensation for all the
people who are dying from
2:09:09
cancer. This was the business
the agreement this is what the
2:09:12
big tobacco agreement was all
about. And so we have taxes and
2:09:16
those taxes. No good states can
take these taxes because you
2:09:19
know, we have to pay for people
who are dying of of smoking
2:09:22
cigarettes and we can't have
that go away. And it seemed like
2:09:25
the kids were stopping to smoke.
And then we had to stop that
2:09:28
especially menthol because you
know, black people smoking
2:09:31
that's why we can have people
vaping menthol so let's get
2:09:35
these kids off the vape
2:09:38
Unknown: a new trend on tick
tock, I just want to tell you
2:09:41
one more reason you should stop
vaping and encouraging people to
2:09:44
stop vaping but this time, it's
not about their health. It's
2:09:48
aimed at helping workers in the
Democratic Republic of Congo's
2:09:52
artisanal cobalt mines, smaller
scale operations, where the work
2:09:56
is often done by hand. These
mines have danger As conditions
2:10:00
and even child labor, according
to humanitarian groups like
2:10:04
Amnesty International,
2:10:06
I'm quitting vaping The reason
it's still happening is because
2:10:08
of how much we consume. Creator
2:10:11
Christina and darchei Heard
about what happens in these
2:10:14
minds, and says she was so
outraged. Like she had to do
2:10:17
something. And he just kept
saying, don't buy new
2:10:19
electronics. And I'm like,
already do that, you know, what
2:10:21
else can
2:10:22
I do? And then I found just a
quick vaping.
2:10:25
Cobalt is a key element used to
make lithium ion batteries,
2:10:28
which much of our technology
depends on things like
2:10:31
smartphones, electric vehicles,
and most e cigarettes, I would
2:10:36
buy a vape. Pretty much like
once or twice a week, two thirds
2:10:41
of the world's cobalt supply
comes from the Democratic
2:10:43
Republic of the Congo, in
Central Africa. But most of that
2:10:47
is then sent to China where it's
refined before it's sold to
2:10:50
battery manufacturers, and then
brand name companies buy those
2:10:55
batteries.
2:10:56
Adam Curry: I'm telling you,
tick tock is a valuable property
2:11:00
on
2:11:00
John C Dvorak: a second. First
of all, artisanal mines. I love
2:11:05
that small batch, baby, small
batch. And so we got that in
2:11:09
play. And the other thing is one
vape device. It probably one
2:11:15
Tesla probably accounts for all
devices ever manufactured. In
2:11:22
terms of battery use, so we
2:11:23
Adam Curry: got a sigh up the
children into not vaping get
2:11:26
back on the stick and back on
the tobacco stick children. This
2:11:30
tic toc is a valuable property
and it pains me to say it but we
2:11:34
have to pay more attention to
it.
2:11:37
John C Dvorak: Hey, you're
talking you're talking to you're
2:11:39
preaching to the choir here.
This is what I've been doing.
2:11:43
Adam Curry: For years it's
always kind of the same it's
2:11:45
always some nut job with with
eyeshadows like come on man. We
2:11:50
have to look at other things
tick tock is doing well. And
2:11:54
with that, I'd like to thank you
for your currency in the morning
2:11:56
to you the man who put the seat
in the cube head ladies
2:11:59
gentlemen say hello to my friend
on the other end one only Mr.
2:12:01
Johnson
2:12:04
John C Dvorak: Well, in the
morning to you Mr. Adam curry
2:12:06
also in the Moreno efficiency,
underground subs in the water.
2:12:12
The water and all the days and
nights out there in
2:12:14
Adam Curry: the morning to the
trolls in the troll room who've
2:12:17
been quite active today. I see
you.
2:12:24
Oh, okay. 2153 That seems
better. Yeah, we're
2:12:29
John C Dvorak: 300 low. Yeah,
but
2:12:30
Adam Curry: but better than 1900
or whatever we had. Oh, no. 1775
2:12:35
No, it was bad. That was really
bad. No, it was bad, bad bad.
2:12:39
The trolls hang out in the troll
room at troll room.io You can go
2:12:44
there yourself, troll around, do
whatever you want. Hope you feel
2:12:47
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no advertising. All we do is put
everything out there all of this
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media deconstruction. All you
know, I think today, we're
2:14:09
probably about 769 or 72 clips,
depending on how much we play
2:14:14
after the break. Those are
thought goes into this work goes
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into this. We put it all out
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posted posted something this
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2:14:53
Unknown: Yeah, happy now. Yeah,
complainers happy now.
2:14:58
Adam Curry: So we want to thank
the art So who brought us the
2:15:01
artwork for episode 1622? We
titled that juice Joe, which of
2:15:05
course is right. He was juiced
up and Darren O'Neal brought us
2:15:08
the artwork that we used
2:15:10
John C Dvorak: when he lamented
it. What do you mean? They know
2:15:12
agenda social
2:15:13
Adam Curry: he lamented it.
2:15:14
John C Dvorak: What do you mean?
He says? Uh huh. They picked my
2:15:17
crappy piece of art. Go figure
some laborers in that those kind
2:15:21
of words.
2:15:22
Adam Curry: We'll strike it from
the record. If that's how he
2:15:25
didn't
2:15:26
John C Dvorak: think much of it
himself. This sounds like so we
2:15:29
liked it. It was the media
decoding, right. Wherever, why?
2:15:31
Why did we like it? Because
there was nothing else. It was a
2:15:35
fallback piece of crap. And most
of us is going to be on Darren
2:15:38
side on this
2:15:39
Adam Curry: most because people
are posting AR AI stuff. But no,
2:15:43
John C Dvorak: they're all
posting AI stuff. And then a
2:15:46
bunch of people are doing Disney
stuff because of the release.
2:15:50
Adam Curry: Oh, we already said
no, we're not going to do said
2:15:53
no
2:15:53
John C Dvorak: to that. Don't
we're not going to pick it
2:15:54
because we don't want Disney
going after us. Disney is
2:15:57
Adam Curry: already making
trouble about people. D
2:16:00
monetizing D platforming YouTube
videos. You know this is someone
2:16:05
created an AI Art Generator.
That's all that's all about
2:16:11
Steamboat Willie. Oh, I'd
2:16:13
John C Dvorak: love to see that.
2:16:16
Adam Curry: Now, so every
everybody's a prompt a prompt
2:16:21
engineer now.
2:16:24
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what
it is. Prompt engineering.
2:16:26
Adam Curry: The stuff that was
real was correct. A record that
2:16:29
wasn't great. It was via was an
old What was it like? Look like
2:16:33
a 286 computer with the best
podcast on the net? Understand
2:16:41
this kid, you know, a lot of
people did Hawking's art, which,
2:16:47
believe me, was not great than
we had. I mean, it's just it's
2:16:51
aI stuff. It's not. This is this
is my problem. I mean, there's
2:16:56
lots of stuff being created, but
this has no soul. It's no soul.
2:17:00
That's what it is soulless its
soul is baseless, soulless art.
2:17:04
Yeah, it's right. It's not good.
Um, it
2:17:07
John C Dvorak: hasn't got any
oomph. Ah, yes, it's, um,
2:17:10
flawless, Toothless and
soulless. And mostly not funny.
2:17:16
Adam Curry: That's the worst
part. And I think what happens
2:17:19
is because it's slick,
2:17:21
John C Dvorak: that they're
really slick. But not all of it,
2:17:23
though. Now, some of this crappy
slide. But
2:17:25
Adam Curry: the real artists
like, Oh, they're probably
2:17:27
choose this. This is so slick. I
could never do this. Well, you
2:17:30
could. You could? Well,
2:17:34
John C Dvorak: you know, usually
these these are generators. And
2:17:36
you do one or AI art. And you do
them and you get a bunch of
2:17:42
sometimes you get select
selections. You get maybe a few
2:17:45
to look at. And you look at him.
You go Wow. That's pretty
2:17:49
impressive. Yeah. And that's
exactly what you said. I don't
2:17:52
think I could do this piece. So
I'm gonna submit it. Exactly.
2:17:58
Adam Curry: Yeah. And but its
own flawless and solace. Pretty
2:18:02
John C Dvorak: much. It's kind
of just junk spot. Junk spot
2:18:05
art. Yeah.
2:18:07
Adam Curry: And it makes me sad,
because we've had, you know,
2:18:10
probably 27,000 submissions up
until the AI revolution. And it
2:18:16
just sucks. I mean, people get
mad at me. We curry be. Oh, by
2:18:25
the way, we should probably we
forgot to do a mia culpa about
2:18:30
the Panama Canal. Oh, yeah. Do
it because you said it. Ah,
2:18:38
John C Dvorak: well, the Panama
Canal is largely filled and
2:18:40
released water from this big
giant lake, which I forgot
2:18:43
about, which is where the canal
kind of goes next to this this
2:18:47
lake fills in is that lake is
down because of the drought in
2:18:52
Panama. And so that's causing
issues with the canal, the way
2:18:55
it's engineered. So it's not
just ocean water going through
2:18:59
there. So I don't see why you
can't just bring more ocean
2:19:03
water in.
2:19:04
Adam Curry: But what's
interesting is I love I'd say
2:19:08
60% of people said, oh, no,
you're wrong. You know, I live
2:19:13
there, or I looked it up, you
know, it's like, oh, no, it's
2:19:16
it's actually it's a series of
tubes. And it's freshwater. But
2:19:22
there's people who say, I can't
believe
2:19:28
John C Dvorak: that same guy
didn't even don't even know why
2:19:30
he listens to the show.
2:19:32
Adam Curry: I only took five
seconds to research this. And
2:19:37
they send it to me.
2:19:39
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's the
by the way, that's the best
2:19:42
part.
2:19:43
Adam Curry: And so I reply and
say I'm not John's intern and I
2:19:46
copy you did that
2:19:47
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I saw that
you always see see me so you
2:19:50
make sure that I'm I'm aware of
your IRA.
2:19:54
Adam Curry: Because it I mean,
people were just dudes. I mean,
2:19:58
yes, we are the creative world.
Our Consulting Group yes, we're
2:20:01
pretty good immediate
deconstruction of doing it for
2:20:03
long while we're fallible.
2:20:06
John C Dvorak: But then no, we
make a mistake a month, at least
2:20:09
more
2:20:09
Adam Curry: than that. But then
the the Snark of it, I'm sorry,
2:20:17
your own podcast. By the way,
speaking of value got
2:20:22
John C Dvorak: to be harder to
lux.
2:20:25
Adam Curry: Creative Work
consulting group time, we got a
2:20:28
note from LC and Tali trying to
read this in the morning. This
2:20:33
is LC and Talia ages 16 and 12.
Hey, John. This is a girl's
2:20:40
probably one of our youngest
producers. We love the show
2:20:44
them. We love the show. And it
has entertained us on multiple
2:20:48
road trips. So we thought we
would contribute in the form of
2:20:51
jingles. Our mom is going to
send in some money to deduce our
2:20:54
dad but hasn't gotten to it yet.
Come on, Mom, what are you
2:20:57
waiting for? So that we will be
the first in our family to
2:21:00
contribute. We enjoy messing
around with audio and stuff. So
2:21:05
we hope you like these jingles.
Also, would you give us some
2:21:07
advice? We'd love to hear it. So
I'll just play they sent to I'll
2:21:12
play one and then we should give
them a little critique. Here
2:21:15
this fractures got
2:21:20
Unknown: people to be you know,
SP also stands for what? Free
2:21:26
speech
2:21:31
Adam Curry: so I it's a good
good start.
2:21:35
John C Dvorak: It's a start,
they need to drop their music
2:21:38
back. Couldn't couldn't hear the
word. I couldn't hear your
2:21:41
voices. You know what? Hello. So
yeah, that should be very low. I
2:21:46
mean, you know, there's no
reason to have a booming bed on
2:21:50
top of everything. That's it's
annoying. Yes. So but if it was
2:21:54
in the background, very low way
you guys are singing in the
2:21:58
foreground with a little less
echo. I might add.
2:22:01
Adam Curry: Yes. That was also a
problem. Echo was a little bit
2:22:04
too much. Yes.
2:22:05
John C Dvorak: So you can, but
you know, you could probably run
2:22:07
it through one of those filters
and take the echo completely out
2:22:10
if you wanted to. But yeah, they
got the right idea.
2:22:14
Adam Curry: You got the right
idea, kids. We're glad. We're
2:22:18
glad. Yes. I mean, how rare is
it though, that you get young
2:22:22
people at that age who are doing
audio production? That none zero
2:22:26
never happened? That's what
that's why I thought it was
2:22:28
worth playing. I like that. So
good start. Good start. So
2:22:32
that's your time. That's your
talent. And now it's time for
2:22:35
the treasurer in our value for
value model. So we're going to
2:22:37
start with our executive
producers and Associate
2:22:39
Executive Producers short list
today, I
2:22:42
John C Dvorak: would say this, I
would say to be a performative
2:22:46
here, I would say I will say you
will say yes, we have a million
2:22:50
listeners and we have 30,000
people that subscribe
2:22:53
religiously to the newsletter,
and we had a total of 28
2:22:57
donations over 50 bucks. This
really is pathetic.
2:23:03
Adam Curry: We are very
appreciative though. Why don't
2:23:07
you take the first one since
there's no note and then I could
2:23:10
do the one that's very long.
2:23:13
John C Dvorak: Which is probably
what I was gonna suggest. I have
2:23:15
no idea where there's no note.
But we have a $2,000 donation I
2:23:20
say after I just complaint we
have sounds like it sounds like
2:23:25
I'm a pig. But the fact is that
the
2:23:30
Adam Curry: the fact that his
Yes. In fact,
2:23:31
John C Dvorak: is that the you
know, there's like one guy
2:23:34
Adam Curry: other people are
overcompensating for the
2:23:36
freeloaders. Yeah,
2:23:38
John C Dvorak: there's like one
guy, so I mean, he's a great
2:23:40
guy, but I don't you know, Paul,
why, in Corpus Christi, Texas,
2:23:45
is the guy and he comes in with
$2,000 with no note that we
2:23:50
could find and I'm sure he'll
come in with a note when he
2:23:53
feels like anyway, we'll be glad
to read it when he does that.
2:23:56
dabba will give them a double up
karma until that happens, you've
2:24:00
Unknown: got karma
2:24:05
Adam Curry: All right. Then we
go to Brad Rennick Brentwood,
2:24:10
Tennessee 1222 which is also
quite nice, fellas. Fellas
2:24:19
consider me to be considered me
sir to be thirsty because yes,
2:24:23
this is we're in Insta instant
night level here, sir to be
2:24:28
thirsty, sir, to be thirsty. I
discovered you during COVID
2:24:31
working for a major trillion
dollar global company. Well
2:24:35
that's that narrows it down to
two which is Apple and Amazon.
2:24:41
What a weird time and there was
a ton of pressure my company
2:24:44
that's based in California
stateside apple. They forced her
2:24:49
hands during that period and to
this day I feel disgusted with
2:24:52
myself for taking the shot. I
waited a year and finally cave
2:24:56
to do it to keep my job one of
my biggest life regrets because
2:24:58
I never cave just now. What I
do, I went out of my way to find
2:25:02
the one place in town that
served the j&j And did that one.
2:25:05
Probably Okay, actually, no. But
I don't know, no issues, but I
2:25:10
don't know. But
2:25:10
John C Dvorak: you know, the j&j
would it get j&j The cause like
2:25:13
immediate blood clot death or
not? Or you're nothing you're
2:25:17
good to go.
2:25:18
Adam Curry: My wife is a
pediatrician and for at least a
2:25:20
solid 18 months, I fought our
tooth and nail on what she's
2:25:23
doing and what is reality? Oh,
does this end in divorce the
2:25:26
story? First half of that was me
catching up to what's really
2:25:30
going on when you guys showed up
in my life. We took a lot of
2:25:33
walks after that argument so
much because she was certain
2:25:36
that she was being told that
what she's being told
2:25:38
prescribed, and recommended is
accurate. I mean, we fought
2:25:40
hard. I'm a sales guy. She's a
doctor who wins that.
2:25:45
John C Dvorak: sales guy should
win. Yeah, anyways,
2:25:48
Adam Curry: while she hates a
lot of your machinations with
2:25:51
the noises and you're obnoxious,
and you're obnoxious. Chief
2:25:55
finds me obnoxious to over time,
though she's completely flipped
2:26:01
to slip. You guys are an
integral part of that. And she
2:26:04
as she's, she is representative
of what Adam has mentioned many
2:26:09
times before. They all go by
recommendations. There's no
2:26:12
debate on this. Nobody actually
questions anything. It is pretty
2:26:16
crazy. Once you dig into all
like this. I agree with Adam.
2:26:23
Excuse me. Suit
2:26:25
John C Dvorak: gate. Duncan.
2:26:26
Adam Curry: I agree with Adam.
You can't force the apology and
2:26:29
rub it in their faces. At least
not in this case. Yeah, that's
2:26:32
right. You must forgive doesn't
mean you have to reconcile. But
2:26:36
just forgive because you're the
one that is you're eating
2:26:38
yourself up over that let it go.
But she's not even recommending
2:26:42
the shot for kids now, whereas
this is still a thing everywhere
2:26:45
else in my town of Vash.
Nashville is wild. They won't
2:26:48
give the shot. Lucky they never
did. I made sure she never
2:26:52
provided that. Okay, now I have
to scroll a little bit because
2:26:57
John C Dvorak: notes too long.
Yes, it is. But it's a good
2:26:59
note. We
2:27:00
Adam Curry: went to dinner
tonight. And as we rolled down
2:27:03
the highway, I said, Can we put
on no agenda? She said sure.
2:27:07
That's big. Thanks, guys. Kind
of a quick note there Well,
2:27:14
thank you brother and and you
will indeed be knighted today.
2:27:18
And I'm glad that you and your
wife were on good terms. We love
2:27:21
that. Even though she thinks
we're she probably still thinks
2:27:24
we're obnoxious. But we are hey,
what can I tell you?
2:27:28
John C Dvorak: You have to be
obnoxious at some level to get
2:27:31
an audience to stick with you
because obnoxious pneus is part
2:27:35
of personality.
2:27:36
Adam Curry: Ooh, yes. Yes. It's
Don't you think it's charisma?
2:27:39
John C Dvorak: Not necessarily
good personality but it is one
2:27:43
of the I hate listeners. It is
what I am B's not one of them.
2:27:46
She comes in from ashington.
Great Britain. I don't even know
2:27:50
where that is. I mean, I work
Great Britain is I never heard
2:27:53
of ashington. But that's where
she's from jobs karma for MX
2:27:56
security UK and are all our
security officers who work
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through Christmas and New Year.
Best wishes for 2024. She came
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Unknown: That's the magic
number. The magic number of
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jobs.
2:28:27
Adam Curry: Yay. All right. Now
we move to Archie Brentano from
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Tigard Oregon 333 dot 33. We'd
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pod father with this donation of
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switcheroo is on behalf is for
my better half Mandy? All right,
2:28:54
hold on a second. So I'm gonna
put Mandy in that switcheroo on
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I presume Her name is Brentano
but doesn't matter because
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she'll have been making for
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doesn't matter because we list
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known as Dame Yeah, no, until
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change it that's how you get
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Please credit her with this
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been a long journey and I'll be
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roundtable for jiggles slash
jingles little girl yay. TPP
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jobs karma and uh ya know, so if
you don't mind I will. I'll do
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the ya know. And then we'll do
the TPP jobs karma with a little
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girl. Yeah, yeah, no jobs, jobs,
jobs, jobs. Jobs. Karma.
2:29:53
John C Dvorak: I'll take the
next couple including in and I'm
2:29:57
Adam Curry: sorry, I'm sorry, I
forgot to say something here.
2:30:00
request for the round my mistake
requests for the round table
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put on the birthday list for
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January 7 and give her a
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my day. They always give me a
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sorry about that
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John C Dvorak: because she's on
the list and Williams is up
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pagewood In New South Wales,
Australia to 22 and she's got no
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note so she gets a double up
karma.
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Unknown: You've got karma
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John C Dvorak: that follows with
Linda Lou packin comes in on
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Saturdays and she came in right
on time again, from Lakewood,
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Colorado. We were wondering now
how long this will continue
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Yeah, she comes in with 200
bucks every single show and
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asked for jobs karma and likes
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Adam Curry: and we're almost
there two more one more
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Associate Executive producer sir
Mike the fortunate from Fuquay
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Varina think that's the way
pronounce it. North Carolina 200
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Switch routes which route John
Adam a belated birthday present
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credit to my keeper and best
friend Dame Kelly the resolute
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the info on the Middle East
situation on the last podcast
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was exceptional. The podcast
gets better and better keep up
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the good work jingles. Judge
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might die a little girl yay from
Sir Mike the fortunate bomb
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Unknown: them bomb them
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and bomb them again you might
die
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John C Dvorak: last is Lynn Lynn
of the Garden State that's a New
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to send a card nice card. It's a
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card you can tell by the noise.
ITM John and Adam sending you
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Thank you this in this crazy
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and a double up karma for
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night a Damon and a night and a
dame and we've got some meetups,
2:34:04
all kinds of stuff to talk
about.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, you know
you're in trouble and your first
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donor in the in this list is
Kevin McLaughlin. 808 is the
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Archduke of Luna lover of
American boobs. And then
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Park, Illinois comes in with
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what he calls pointy boobs of
707. No point this is new. This
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is a new this is a new, totally
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grace and insurance. Grayson
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606 small boobs so we have three
boob donations in a row all of
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different donation amounts.
Meanwhile, we have Eli that
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coffee guide gig brought coffee
roasters.com Yeah,
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Adam Curry: so I've been I had
one this morning. Yeah, but let
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John C Dvorak: me just say
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Adam Curry: Yep. So I had one of
these gigawatt cold fusion.
2:35:01
Yeah. Which it's made with snap
tool technology.
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John C Dvorak: That is I'm,
2:35:06
Adam Curry: I'm a jacked. I've
been jacked all morning from
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this stuff, really. But it's
interesting because you think
2:35:12
you'll be me it is all it is is
coffee and water. That's all
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refreshing cold coffee
experience. They don't mention
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how much caffeine is in here,
but I guess they don't need to
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because it just coffee, coffee
and water. That's all that's in
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there. But man, I like it. It's
hardcore. And gotta be careful.
2:35:34
Well,
2:35:35
John C Dvorak: that's the paper
they have. They're mostly I
2:35:37
think, a bean operation.
Although they do have a bunch of
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these canned drinks, which are a
good idea. I think you can make
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a lot of money from Canberra.
Michael ganks. Michael gates.
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Yeah, they're slick. Michael
gates. 50 By the way, ITM 20 for
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there. 50 To 80 from Miko gates,
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Stephanie Schmidt in San
Francisco. 5150. And she's still
2:36:03
a librarian. Oh,
2:36:05
Adam Curry: oh, my goodness. We
I got a note. I gotta I gotta
2:36:11
read this for a second. Sorry. I
got a beautiful present. From
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the anonymous no agenda
librarian. She sent me and this
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is 35 years ago. She sent me the
an original poster that I did
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for the American Library
Association, mint, complete mint
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poster. MTV guy hair, the whole
deal, Adam curry for the
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American Library Association. I
was blown away 35 years ago, and
2:36:41
she was able to find one because
of course, she's a librarian.
2:36:44
Yeah,
2:36:44
John C Dvorak: that's what they
do. Yeah, thank you. In fact, I
2:36:50
love my job and I love what I
do. The librarian, Josiah
2:36:56
Thomason, and Kenny, Iowa 51.
And boom, we're right at the $50
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donors level right now and I'm
going to read them off the name
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and location, starting with
Michael Lebar, in Williamston,
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Michigan, Alex avala and Kyle,
Texas.
2:37:13
Adam Curry: Oh Alex, Sir Alex.
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John C Dvorak: Matthew Smith and
Colchester, Suffolk, UK. Ryan
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Tiernan in North Providence,
Rhode Island, Jonathan Ferris
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and liberal Kansas. Kelly
Hubbard in Plymouth, Minnesota,
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donating my winnings from
fantasy football. Good for her
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to play. Justin Cruz and to
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Justin. Stephen or Steven Steven
ray in Spokane, Washington.
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Ray arriba arrive alright. bbe
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in Canton, Ohio, and this is
switcheroo de douche my husband.
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You've been de deuced he's got a
birthday and he's gonna get
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credit Andrew. And she says his
his favorite her favorite
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douchebag but he's bendy douche
so it's no longer true person of
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merit comics in Columbus, Ohio.
And last on our short list, very
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short list. Sir Jackson and
leveling, leveling that Texas.
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He needs some jobs. Karma will
give jobs calm for everyone who
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needs it here at the end. And
that's it. That's it done. Well
2:38:39
Adam Curry: do the jobs, jobs,
2:38:40
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
2:38:43
Adam Curry: That's karma. Got a
rather sad note from producer
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Robert Robert Roberts. He says,
Adam Adam waffling on whether to
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ask this. My friends Ben and
Jess stone. Ben was an avid
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listener were killed in a car
wreck on the 29th of December.
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Their four kids are okay. I
guess they're with them now. 136
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and eight years old? The cooks
Yes, the company they work for
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had a lot of listeners as well.
This has been a tragic and
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heartbreaking loss was hoping
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I'm sure that everybody is
praying for for the kids. And
2:39:22
for of course, Ben and Jess and,
and you know, I don't like these
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notes. But I did want to share
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episode 1623 Our formula is
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in the mouth
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we always have a couple of
birthdays to celebrate Archie
2:40:34
Brentano wishes his better half
Mandy Happy Birthday. She's
2:40:37
actually celebrating today.
Rachel ribby wants to say happy
2:40:41
birthday to her hubby Andrew now
that'll he'll be 30 on January
2:40:45
10. And Sir Mike the fortunate
says Happy Birthday to James
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Kelly the resolute maybe it's
your birthday today regardless
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Happy Birthday and we say happy
birthday to all of you people on
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behalf of no agenda. Oh, sorry.
We don't let me see do we have
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any? No, no, it's just one day
one night so
2:41:10
John C Dvorak: I liked that.
Lambos combo combo.
2:41:13
Adam Curry: Mandy come on up.
Brad Brad Rennick both of you
2:41:17
are about to be knighted and
named. And of course you are now
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night and dame of the no agenda
Roundtable. I'm very proud to
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pronounce the k d as Dame ya
know. And sir, to be thirsty.
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Thank you both so much for
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Welcome to the knights in the
dames with a roundtable we are
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very very, very pleased to have
you here
2:42:23
John mentioned in earlier the no
agenda meetups he says
2:42:26
connection is protection which
is true, but really these
2:42:28
meetups which is it's part of
the entire no agenda. experience
2:42:34
really is one thing to listen to
the show a lot another is to to
2:42:38
go to a meet up. And meetups are
everywhere. And the great thing
2:42:41
about it is, if there's no
meetup near you, you can start
2:42:44
one and you'll be amazed how
many sometimes just one person,
2:42:48
but a lot of people get a lot of
it's amazing how many people
2:42:50
will go to a meetup if you just
go to a bar doesn't really cost
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any money. Just go to no agenda
meetups.com It really, these
2:42:58
meetups, they keep you anchored.
It's where we can all get
2:43:01
together. You already know who
you are, who the people are, who
2:43:04
will come and you can encourage
each other. You can't get that
2:43:08
from just an online experience.
You need to do that as a part of
2:43:12
of your sanity really. And we
only have one that is coming up
2:43:17
on the 11th Wow, that's nothing
until then. That'll be Thursday
2:43:22
the northern Wake County stitch
and bitch meet up six o'clock at
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Compass Rose brewing in Raleigh,
North Carolina. coming up in
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January, Fredericksburg,
Virginia is the 13th Garden City
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Idaho Los Angeles, Milwaukee
Wisconsin Westfield, Indiana on
2:43:38
the 14th on the 18th Denver,
Charlotte, North Carolina on the
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20th Rochester New Hampshire
Fort Wayne, Indiana. Oh that was
2:43:47
going to be on the sixth so that
move to the 20th Cincinnati, San
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Diego Anchorage, Alaska.
Kilgore, Texas, January 25,
2:43:55
Alpharetta, Georgia The 27th
Kenny, oh Kilkenny Ireland, they
2:44:00
go tulsa oklahoma on the 28th in
February we've got Rogersville
2:44:04
Alabama, fountain, Colorado,
Albany, California February 17.
2:44:08
Hagen them and Connecticut net
Connecticut as Singapore on
2:44:12
February 22. I'm looking forward
to to getting a meetup report
2:44:17
and we love meetup report. So
please consider recording short
2:44:21
little bits of people talking
about how much they love the
2:44:23
meetup no agenda meetups.com is
where you can find all the
2:44:27
meetups you can schedule one
because if you can't find one a
2:44:29
year start one yourself.
guaranteed a party.
2:44:33
Unknown: Sometimes you go hang
out with Dyson days. You'd be
2:44:42
triggered you to be where
everybody feels the same. Is
2:44:51
like a body.
2:44:55
Adam Curry: All right, I have to
I have to now have three
2:44:59
actually three This one's no
good, because it's just it's not
2:45:03
clear enough, but I'll play it.
2:45:05
Unknown: I love the penis joke.
2:45:06
Oh Ha. See,
2:45:08
Adam Curry: I know you couldn't
hear it. I heard it. You heard
2:45:11
it and it was Kara.
2:45:14
John C Dvorak: Kara Swisher.
Kara Swisher saying they love
2:45:16
the penis jokes. She's
2:45:18
Adam Curry: vile. She's always
talking smack
2:45:22
John C Dvorak: this one that'll
make your balls rattle. Kids
2:45:27
too. echoey
2:45:27
Adam Curry: How about this? What
a fussy little dish? Because I
2:45:34
know it's not great. What do you
have?
2:45:36
John C Dvorak: I have three.
Like you do? Yeah, I have fire
2:45:40
fire. Little striker little
short little short. This fire
2:45:45
short. Never use fire short.
Okay, then try this one. It was
2:45:50
longer this is loon.
2:45:52
Adam Curry: Laser. I lose. I
like it. I can hear it. Yeah,
2:45:56
good. Laser. I lose that sound
sounds like us. Yeah,
2:46:01
John C Dvorak: it does. And then
the old classic another version
2:46:04
of it. Wow. Wow.
2:46:06
Adam Curry: No, no, I don't.
Those are too short. I like the
2:46:09
laser. I lose. I like that one.
I think I think that's a winner.
2:46:13
And I hope you accept my
decision. And now it's time for
2:46:16
Google.
2:46:19
Unknown: GDC
2:46:21
Adam Curry: good news. Everybody
had John does a lot of work just
2:46:24
for the regular portions of the
show. I mean, for those of you
2:46:28
who are listening those you
support what what a show you got
2:46:31
second half of show. And another
good news story to make you
2:46:35
John C Dvorak: do this is for
little Charlie, who was almost
2:46:40
died in the car, but he was
rescued. Oh, thank God.
2:46:45
Unknown: At 15 months old little
Charlie here loves to eat his
2:46:49
veggies dropped some for his
furry friends. Okay, and help
2:46:54
mom clean them up to birthing
makes them laugh. He's so cute.
2:46:58
But last month, this bundle of
joy in his mom faced a
2:47:01
terrifying situation when he
suddenly broke out with a high
2:47:05
fever in the middle of the
night,
2:47:07
jumped on e4 70 and I heard
something in the back
2:47:11
pulling over as fast as she
could she saw her baby having a
2:47:14
seizure something that's never
happened before. If
2:47:18
if he hadn't been convulsing, he
would have looked dead like
2:47:20
there was it was like like
lifeless. And so I grabbed the
2:47:26
phone, and I call 911.
2:47:27
In a minute and 20 seconds she
says a dispatcher was able to
2:47:31
ping her location and get the
nearest deputy directed as soon
2:47:35
as possible. Moments later, she
says a team of fire and EMTs met
2:47:39
them calmly helping get Charlie
to the hospital for help.
2:47:43
They were so sweet. So that my
gratitude came from like I've
2:47:48
never needed it and but when I
did cash, they were so amazing,
2:47:51
so quick. I was just in awe
2:47:56
gratitude, they got to share in
person with the firefighters
2:48:00
EMTs deputy and dispatcher Misty
credits for helping not only her
2:48:05
son, but her to Reott we
2:48:08
talk to people on the worst days
of their lives. So when it ends
2:48:11
up with a happy ending, it's
very exciting for them to come
2:48:13
up and let us know and let us
meet them and get to put faces
2:48:16
to names but it's
2:48:17
their faces their compassion and
quick response. This family will
2:48:22
never forget.
2:48:23
I'm praying for you guys every
day like you are stuck with us
2:48:26
and baby Charlie for the rest of
our lives. Nicole Fierro
2:48:29
Fox are the one
2:48:30
Adam Curry: to be honest. I
mean, it's a good news story. It
2:48:32
is. I prefer not to be medical
issues where people almost died.
2:48:36
I mean, I like to I just like
the like a cat did something
2:48:40
cute. You know? It's the only
good news stories you've come up
2:48:44
with so far. It's like something
horrible happened. We can't we
2:48:48
can we just have like,
2:48:49
John C Dvorak: you know, like, a
cat save a dog and the last one
2:48:53
Adam Curry: I know but it's
always saving a life. Good news
2:48:56
stories can just be there was a
nice event or everyone had fun.
2:49:02
John C Dvorak: Or you went soft.
Good news stories.
2:49:05
Adam Curry: I don't want the
almost died. But luckily you
2:49:08
saved my life. I mean, that's.
That's boring. We need
2:49:13
John C Dvorak: Yeah, okay.
Everyone out there who helps me
2:49:16
find these stories now knows
that Adam is picky? Yes, I am.
2:49:19
Well, it's not. He doesn't want
good news stories, which that
2:49:22
was I want the bad ones. Good.
Lame news stories.
2:49:28
Adam Curry: At least one a
month. I need one. That's
2:49:31
John C Dvorak: not a problem.
2:49:33
Unknown: All right. A good news
story from JCD happy vibes for
2:49:41
you and me and we all feel
better. Now. He's done his bit.
2:49:46
To back to reality. That's
turning to shit.
2:49:50
Adam Curry: I have a very good
news story. Good news. Good news
2:49:55
who people who are on the juice.
And when I say juice I mean the
2:49:59
me In the GLP juice, that's
right. Good news, everybody if
2:50:04
you're using the weight loss
drugs, good news. In our
2:50:07
Unknown: health cows today, the
use of semaglutide drugs, things
2:50:09
like ozempic, and we'll go V
don't appear to be associated
2:50:13
with any kind of a higher risk
of thinking about suicide.
2:50:15
compared to any other
medications. Researchers looked
2:50:19
at 100 million patient records
backed by the National
2:50:22
Institutes of Health. And
according to their findings, six
2:50:25
months after starting the meds,
people taking the drug to lose
2:50:28
weight had a 73% lower risk of
first time suicidal thoughts,
2:50:32
and a 56% lower risk of
recurrent suicidal thoughts. For
2:50:36
people with type two diabetes.
The reductions were 64 and 49%,
2:50:40
respectively. The lower risk
were also observed three years
2:50:43
out from taking the medications.
And these findings come just
2:50:47
days after the FDA said it was
going to review reports of
2:50:50
suicidal thoughts among people
using semaglutide and similar
2:50:54
medications. This good knows
2:50:56
Adam Curry: you don't want to
kill yourself. This is good. 70%
2:51:02
John C Dvorak: I know that was
an issue. I tell you. The
2:51:03
problem with that stuff was your
stomach froze up and your drop
2:51:06
dead.
2:51:07
Adam Curry: Well, if you don't
die, at least you won't be
2:51:09
killing yourself. It was good.
It's good. Everybody's happy. I
2:51:13
think it's and you know what,
there's even better news. I
2:51:16
mean, in America, we have I
think New Zealand's the only
2:51:21
other country that allows direct
consumer advertising of
2:51:28
pharmaceutical drugs. The old
America that is correct. New
2:51:33
Zealand doesn't really count. I
mean, yeah. But now they're
2:51:37
taking it one step further. This
is this is the ultimate. This is
2:51:41
the future. This is how they
really want to do it.
2:51:44
Interesting
2:51:44
Unknown: news today drugmaker,
Eli
2:51:46
Lilly launched a new online
service sending medications
2:51:49
directly to consumers. The new
service called Lilly direct will
2:51:54
ship the company's new anti
obesity drug to patients who
2:51:57
have a prescription and they
will also offer some of the
2:52:00
company's insulin drugs for
people with diabetes and a
2:52:04
migraine medication. Just
2:52:06
Adam Curry: send it just do
direct. We don't need we don't
2:52:09
need a pharmaceutical industry.
We just do a little telehealth
2:52:13
because you know how that is
like via you fill out a form on
2:52:16
the website. Yeah, yeah. You
don't need a doctor anymore.
2:52:21
Boy, you have to send a mail.
Yeah, they'll just they'll just
2:52:24
ask you a few questions fill out
the form boom, you've got a
2:52:27
prescription. This is what this
is great. I think they finally
2:52:32
got it should you'd think that
maybe it would be smart to go
2:52:36
check with a doctor you know,
make sure that your doctor feels
2:52:39
is appropriate for you. With
2:52:41
John C Dvorak: these guys having
the advantage of being able to
2:52:43
advertise in the one country in
the world it's allowed they
2:52:46
would bring everybody in and
share the wealth a little bit
2:52:50
but no, no now they decided to
take all the money themselves
2:52:54
they're asking for cruisin for a
bruisin here this
2:52:57
Adam Curry: by the way out it's
not even an American company is
2:53:02
it Novo Nordisk? No, you're
right yeah. No, this should be
2:53:05
illegal the screw and they're
screwing our business. They're
2:53:08
screwing our drug business they
should be there should be some
2:53:11
for Bolton TO BE CUT CUT should
be exaggerated for Burb Bowden.
2:53:16
And then this is the worst tease
of the week. I mean, I've heard
2:53:23
bad teases. But this one is I
mean, if we did this, if we did
2:53:29
this people would be mad at us.
2:53:31
Unknown: Megyn Kelly, they'll
fascinating and we're not done
2:53:34
with Jeffrey Epstein. I can tell
you that for a fact. How I know.
2:53:38
But I can tell you for a fact.
We're going to hear a lot more
2:53:40
about Jeffrey Epstein in the
coming year. And you may be even
2:53:44
hearing from him directly. More
on that as I'm allowed to tell
2:53:49
you
2:53:49
Adam Curry: as I'm allowed to
tell you that I'm
2:53:51
John C Dvorak: allowed what is
allowed Paul Crozier who's
2:53:55
pulling your strings that she
has to be allowed. I
2:53:58
Adam Curry: don't like it. I
don't like it is not cool to do
2:54:01
that. As long as I'm allowed.
That's the worst he's ever asked
2:54:06
like he's at all that's like
clickbait Don't you think
2:54:09
John C Dvorak: you either? Can
you tell us tell us just call us
2:54:13
now can tell us what to do and
what to say no can't tell us
2:54:18
back on our show and call her
out. I
2:54:20
Adam Curry: have a feeling I'm
not going to be called anytime
2:54:22
soon. However, tomorrow I will
be doing the Tom Woods show. Tom
2:54:30
Woods that's right Tom Woods
show tomorrow everybody that
2:54:33
mean that it will I think it
takes takes a day or two before
2:54:37
he actually airs it but I look
forward to that. I like tom toms
2:54:40
a good good dude. He's a good
dude. Coming up next end of show
2:54:45
mixes Jesse coy Nelson sir TJ
the raffle with human resources
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out Rolando Gonzalez. Up next a
another live show. This is an
2:54:54
important one you want to stay
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room.io It's the Battle of the
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in her lavish blueberry and Nam,
I mean Hello. Could it get any
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better? That's your no agenda
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We love it and we will be back
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media deconstruction coming to
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hill country here in FEMA Region
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2:55:26
everybody I'm Adam curry
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Dvorak. Please remember
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everybody adios mofos or Hui
2:55:42
Hui?
2:56:02
Unknown: You might die not that
many of you are going to die so
2:56:05
don't worry about it go come on
me over show Come on. Come on
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come on come on come on. Come
on. Come on. All right. God save
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the Queen man. God save the
Queen man. God save the Queen
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man
2:56:33
go NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO DON'T GO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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NO NO NO NO NO NO DON'T
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go alright. God save it
2:56:54
all over shown. Okay, girls,
what did we learn from today's
2:56:58
episode? I'm a proud night Oh
well, that's normally true but
2:57:11
anything else everything
2:57:28
they just lie like they've been
trying to control for your mind,
2:57:38
you will find it's all over
again. This is a scam.
2:57:44
Everything is
2:57:45
run by the CIA
2:58:02
Have you heard the show?
Everyone's talking? Are you
2:58:04
divorced, deconstructing? That's
a job pointing out stupidity
2:58:07
with an awesome no agenda. Just
lies lies and curried the more I
2:58:11
can show you why value for value
is their way of just for the
2:58:14
past 15 years and also produces
the best podcast slave
2:58:37
Adam Curry: scam no. That's a
scam. That's a scam.
2:58:43
John C Dvorak: It's a scandal to
me. This is a scam. To say
2:58:48
that's a massive scam. More
2:58:50
Unknown: people are entering the
United States illegally.
2:58:53
40% of them crossing are
families. 60% of adult men
2:58:58
arriving at the southern border
additional
2:59:00
enforcement actions are urgently
needed. CBP tells the outlet
2:59:03
that there have been 45,000
encounters at the border since
2:59:07
Monday.
2:59:08
The number of asylum seekers in
this town of Eagle Pass Eagle
2:59:12
Pass
2:59:13
Texas Eagle Pass Texas is one of
the busiest border entry points
2:59:17
in the country.
2:59:18
Hundreds of people were in the
cold to be processed by US
2:59:21
border officials.
2:59:23
Who is saying the system is
working as it should down there.
2:59:26
They want the highest day of
encounters ever recorded. I did
2:59:29
not know that many states are
heading for sanctuary cities is
2:59:32
going to be extremely painful
for New Yorkers. The mayor now
2:59:35
wants to cut half a billion
dollars from education in order
2:59:38
to deal with the influx of
illegal in recent
2:59:40
weeks for the police have been
recording almost 10,000 people
2:59:44
crossing the border
2:59:45
and we told us
2:59:47
they did not have the manpower
or the resources fly
2:59:50
we continue to say we need help.
Meanwhile, Texas is now
2:59:54
reportedly adding anti Climate
Technology to expensive
2:59:57
training immigration services.
You You need funding and they
3:00:01
need more for thanks very much.
3:00:12
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