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August 1st, 2024 • 3h 23m

1682: Natalism

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Adam Curry: I recommend a tinfoil hat personally.
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Unknown: Adam curry, John C. Devorah.
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Adam Curry: It's Thursday August 1 2024. This Year Award winning
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get one nation media assassination episode 1682
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Unknown: This is no agenda.
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Adam Curry: We're all weird now and broadcasting live from the
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heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region number six
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in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where Rachel
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Maddow is full of shit and Johnson
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Adam Curry: That's right, everybody. This is your typical
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morning Sue show. You heard right here. My daddy wasn't
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beat. Oh. Wow. Okay, you're mad at Rachel. What did she do? Show
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me on the Rachael hall where she hurt you?
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John C Dvorak: Well, you want me to go to the pitch on weird.
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Adam Curry: I'd love for you to go to the pitch on weird.
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John C Dvorak: So the Democrats have decided to use the term
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weird I
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Adam Curry: just kind of say, the stuff that's going on right
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now is the stuff that media deconstructionist dream of. It
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is so blatantly, stupidly obvious.
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John C Dvorak: When three clips Okay, let's hear. First, I have
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the supercut of the use of the word weird on MSNBC, CNN, and
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various mainstream outlets. Some of
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Unknown: what is running mate are saying, let's play weird.
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These guys are just weird. That's really
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weird and creepy. is JD Vance.
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Super weird idea from JD Vance. Yeah, it's
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not I mean it's quite weird
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just playing we're just playing
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we're just plain weird
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that stuff is weird. They come across weird and then they start
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being weird Yeah, they're
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weird. Really weird such a weird of something
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is weird. Oh, running mate are weird. deeply and profoundly
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weird they
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John C Dvorak: are weird these Republicans just being weird
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it's just weird it's really weird. weirdness
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Unknown: goes even deeper
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he said a lot of things that are weird weird style that he brings
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your policies with the
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weird thing because it is a thing is
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plain weird. What
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was weird was talking about Diet Mountain Dew who drinks Diet
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Mountain Dew whoever seen
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the guy laugh? That seems very weird to me that that an adult
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can go through six and a half years of being in the public eye
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if he has laughed it's at someone not with someone that
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that is weird behavior and and cultish. These are weird people
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on the other side kind of
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double down on his weird ideas. Think weird is probably
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generous. Simply weird. These guys are just plain weird dance
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as weird. You know, as the campaign said, weird
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really? Is
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just playing weird.
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JD Vance playing weird.
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I mean, you gotta read it weird. It
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is kind of weird. We're
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not free to weird people. The other side. They're just weird.
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Why
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are you being so weird? And
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since doing something more extreme, more weird.
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No matter what kind of weird stuff they keep saying Trump and
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Vance are just weird. In addition,
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if you've been registered, that's
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the weird part. That's the most engaging me addressed as my
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beautiful Christians, which was super weird. We're
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in tech bro. JD Vance uses a weird guy JD Vance
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on easy and sort of
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weird, frankly, for lack of
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a better word that he's weird
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remarks that aren't even funny. And he kind of shows that he
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can't really deliver a one liner.
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So stand weird is the word here in terms of initial impressions
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from Vance American public?
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Adam Curry: This was really dare I say weird. They did this
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definition of weird is strange or have strange or extraordinary
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character odd or fantastic. of relating to or caused by
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witchcraft or the supernatural, magical. So it's an odd choice
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of SLAM ma'am. As
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John C Dvorak: we continue, the choice will be deconstructed by
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of all people, Scott Adams. But first of all, after all this,
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they went through all this Rachel had her show on Monday,
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not to be out done. She was given her marching orders to use
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the word weird. And this is in the first half hour of the show.
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I went through the trouble of cutting out every use of her
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term weird 41 seconds full of them in just 30 minutes. And
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here we go.
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Unknown: Are you ready for a weird one? This is a truly weird
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when and of all the weird things actually. Not all that weird. A
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little weird with the Republican campaign personally weird or
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that JD Vance is personally weird, except there is something
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weird weirdness in a pejorative term necessarily, who among us
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is a little weird, right? We're just not necessarily bad
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intrinsically. There is weird stuff like that. Right on the
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surface postcard of his weird rambling Neff do some weird
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stuff. Part of What's so weird about the Donald Trump campaign.
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There's a lot that is weird. But there's one last thing in terms
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of the weirdness of this campaign, the weirdness around
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this scam Pay surface level weirdness. That's a weird thing.
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That's a weird thing. All of this is weird. This level weird
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behavior, the weirdness of this campaign is astonishing. 99 days
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out.
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Adam Curry: Well, now I'm very excited to hear Scott Adams
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because he's the, he's the hypnotist, and he understands.
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What's the term he always uses. He always uses a term for it
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something like, what's the term he uses? I don't know. If we're
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convincing people as strong not influence. It's some other word
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uses.
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Unknown: Madness. Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: the chat room. We'll come up with it as we play
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his interpretation. I'm not totally convinced of this. But
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at least he's looking Persuasion.
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Adam Curry: Persuasion persuasion as the term he's
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he's,
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John C Dvorak: he at least has one handle on it, which may or
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may not be part of it. It this is part of his I had to
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obviously cut stuff out. And then I had the conch containing
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I had to shorten it, because Scott
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Adam Curry: can ramble long. Yes. He's a ramble.
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John C Dvorak: He's Rambler. But here we go. Here we go. This is
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what he thinks is going on. Well, apparently
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Unknown: the Democrats have decided that they're going to
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use the weird the word weird weird to describe, I guess. By
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the way,
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Adam Curry: it's already working on Scott. He just said the word
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weird without even intending to say it.
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Unknown: Yes, that's amazing. You that's amazing. Well,
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apparently the Democrats who decided that, I'm sorry. I was
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John C Dvorak: just gonna say that you have to remember that
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this is all this all began with JD Vance, calling the childless
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cat women. And that was determined to be weird when in
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fact, we've all known this idea since the Simpsons for the last
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25 years, which always had a cat woman in there. And there's
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nothing weird about it, but Okay, here we go. Well,
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apparently
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Unknown: the Democrats have decided that they're going to
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use the weird the word weird to describe I guess, JD Vance and
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Trump. Now you might say to yourself weird. Let's like such
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a weak, overused, weird word. And Vivek Ramaswamy has a
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similar idea. He says, this whole their weird argument from
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the Democrats is dumb and juvenile. This is a presidential
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election, not a high school prom queen contest. It's also a tad
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ironic coming from the party that preaches diversity
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inclusion, when on policy if you can cut the crap, please. Now
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I'm going to tell you you didn't expect this is probably
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professional work. Remember when I spotted dark and yes in the
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Clinton Trump election as soon as they all said Trump's
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speeches dark I said whoa, that's that's professional.
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That's not something that regular politicians come up with
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that word makes you fear without without any details, what's
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dark, who everything bad is dark. And then you put all the
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all the bad fear that you have for the dark into Trump. Very
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professional. Manipulation of minds. Weird is probably that
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good. Here's why you might not know young women. You use that
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weird that word a lot. If you're talking to a young woman about a
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topic that she's not interested in Scott does and you say oh
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this or that happened? What is she going to say? While she's
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looking at her phone? Looking at phone? That's weird. And then
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you tell a story about a person who did a thing that isn't
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usually done. What is the what is the young woman with the
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phone say about that person? That's weird. Weird is the
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universal word that young women use for everything that doesn't
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fit their model and it's a good catch all for their base.
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Adam Curry: Well, Scott Adams is the expert on young women. So we
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know that but I have a young woman in the house here had her
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here for four weeks and she's definitely on the phone in that
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age group and I have not heard this term. So that's just my one
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sample. i
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John C Dvorak: This is a sketchy analysis but is interesting and
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he has a counter to this whole thing is that when if you're
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told anything on on the Democrat side, just say it's weird, as it
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was his argument is, if they want to try to use this to
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capture the youth of America, women are dissolve about women
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because the women and it just noticeable in the black
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community where the black women are all in on on Camela and
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black men are are little although the black men are still
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going to be all in on Camela a greater percentage will go for
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Trump. I think the personally the over and under is going to
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be 20% At least from what I can I can call from the
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conversations. But this is but so just use the word weird a lot
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when when you're referring to anything the Democrats are
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doing, and he thinks that'll probably help. But it is strange
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that this is going on. And it's so obvious, and I think they've
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overdone it. And Rachel, who took it to the limit? Well, I
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Adam Curry: have two clips that connect into this. I agree with
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you. I think people you know, they're under estimating the
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intelligence of people, certainly the people who call
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into C span and the hosts of C span, which was rather
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interesting. Let me see. Yeah. And Hudson, Florida Republican.
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He's actually calling in about initially about the National
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Black Journalists Association, but then he gets to the weird
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thing
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Unknown: are you doing today? The reason why you saw that
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interview is the real reason that Donald Trump should be
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reelected as president. The way he stood up to that interviewer
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is the way he was, he has stood up to Putin tree and fell fell
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from North Korea. That's why he had such success in his four
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years that he was president. He didn't that he stood up to those
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people and he told them, This is my side of the
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story. Here's a headline in Wall Street Journal this morning. At
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events rally fans brush off his controversies. What do you think
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of the pic by the former president of JD Vance?
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Well, I think JD Vance is a very good man he's a same religion I
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am he's he's raised some children he's done the right
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thing and came from a poor background and there's always
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something that these people are going to do the hatch on to that
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they have to find something of something about the weird or
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something that everybody's weird a little bit but that's what
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their phrases now they must send this out because everybody that
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has against the Republicans they all start about like these weird
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where do they get that? Is that a memo that goes out to everyone
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that's what makes you question about your news media when every
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one of them and that's against the Republicans they all start
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with these weird you know, and the ABC is weird NBC is weird.
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Where did where does this come from even even speaker Schumer
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he's weird you know it is if people this anyone with any and
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challenges at all can figure out that and most shops do this.
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That's what's right. What is so bad about what am I going to
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pick on what Harris picks? Jimmy
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are referring to talking points talking points that go out by
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the party officials that go out and you know, those that
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received
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can they have their own talking points? Why do they have to be
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send their little memo does you start out with that he's weird
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All right. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: so everyone seems to do this the C span hosts like
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why this talking points it sends them out you know, it's like and
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as proven in my favorite hate listen. Everybody loves the
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favorite hate listen pivot pivot podcast with Kara Swisher. Yep.
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And Scott Galloway and listen to what he says 200
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Unknown: million bucks in a week. The enthusiasm is granted
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some of the middle lane you know, they're just getting their
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attack engine going. She'll come under a bunch of warranted
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scrutiny that every candidate gets but the honeymoon period is
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like this is a month long honeymoon right now. Yeah, it is
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everything every lot of sex happening. Oh my god, and I mean
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Kara this whatever called white dude thing not weird
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sex like JD Vance. But go ahead dolphins and couches.
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With furniture. I'm not sure I even understand what he's being
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accused of there. But anyways, the I was asked to come on CNN
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tonight and talk about how weird the campaign is. Or the Trump
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campaign is and talk about the white dude tank.
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Adam Curry: So they called him up and said, Hey, can you come
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on CNN tonight and talk about the weird thing? You know, it's
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our new talking points. Certainly. Viewer you've heard
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about it. Come on. This is so obvious.
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John C Dvorak: Wow, that's a good catch. Yeah, well,
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Adam Curry: I missed my hatless. Um, so that's why I caught it
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now. I'm gonna move past weird if you don't mind because we had
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another fabulous thing happen and it's amazing. Kind of
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predicted by moe that they're gonna go all in race all in
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race, race, race, race, race, race, race, race, a racist,
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racist, racist, black, black, black, white, white, white,
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racist, racist. And as witnessed by the racial zoom calls, which
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I don't even I don't even know if you know, I don't know if you
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can have more than 1000 people on a zoom call maybe zoom had
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they certainly don't have that on their website. If you want
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John C Dvorak: a good point if you want I've been wondering
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about this myself. Well,
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Adam Curry: here's the their their basic free, are with
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credit cards. 100 participants Pro is 100 participants out now
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it seems like the same business 300 enterprise 500, then
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optional add ons 500 and an optional 1000. So I guess you
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can have 1500. Or maybe maybe they can do more, but what they
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seem to be doing is doing streaming live. And then having
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a number of invited people on the Zoom call, as witnessed by
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the white dudes for Harris, which I think they missed an
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enormous branding opportunity here. white dudes for Harris,
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they should have called it crackers for Kamala. But that's
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just me next time called the curry Devorah Consulting Group.
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And but even Galloway and I have some respects, I have a little
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bit of respect for him. He catches this, he says, you know,
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this is kind of weird, that we're doing all this racial
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stuff. And we're doing all identity politics. But of
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course, as long as it keeps Trump out, it's good.
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Unknown: They're doing groups of zoom calls that which I think is
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fascinating.
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Adam Curry: I think it's really fascinating, fascinating,
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Unknown: really fascinating, fascinating.
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I live I'm of two minds about that. I like the we're saying
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Don't be ridiculous. There's a lot of white men, who you
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immediately create a stereotype of the one a great economy, the
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one progressive policies that want bodily autonomy for women
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that want the Wonderful World World for their daughters that
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believe in liberal politics. So I like that, that that's a
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chance for us to say don't be stupid, there's a bunch of us
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that are hand in hand with these ideals and are fighting for
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them. But at the same time, it feels as if the world is
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becoming so much more it's just becoming one giant identity
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politics exercise. You know, just everybody identifies now
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based on their their sexual orientation, their background,
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their gender, and I think some of it is unhealthy. I
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think some of this is fun, though. They're doing Asian
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ladies the black lady so I think it's kind of fun, like, and then
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they're all gonna get together. In this way. It feels like it's
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too much. But I think this is more enjoy than it is greed.
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Joy. Anger.
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Yeah, this is tongue in cheek in funny.
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Adam Curry: It's funny. It's great. Listen to who was on this
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white dudes for Harris call. By the way, the the here's the
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because I got the the email for the signup form.
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John C Dvorak: By the way, she did say for all practical
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purposes that racism is fun. It is.
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Adam Curry: I agree. Racism is fun. It's fun for kids of all
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ages. Here's the email together. We aren't going to sit around
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and let the Maga crowd bully other white guys into voting for
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a hateful and divisive ideology. Because we understand that Magga
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with Magga everyone uses we know that as white dudes, we have a
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strong and positive role to play in America shared future and it
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begins with all of us cutting through the maggot crap, and
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reminding the folks who have co opted American symbols what
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America actually means. We're excited to join together with
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you in this fight. So here's who was on the exit was It was
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amazing. The first guy who came on was a black guy who was like,
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you know, some activist for Kamala. So they have all the
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white dudes on let's bring in a black guy just to make sure
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we're not too racist.
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John C Dvorak: No, he's identifying as white for the day
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for the day. Yes, Jeff
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Adam Curry: Bridges Mayor Pete. Governor Roy Cooper. Blimey. See
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Governor Pritzker, Governor waltz? Governor get Senator Gary
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Peters, Adam Schiff, Steny Hoyer, Mark Hamill, Scott
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Galloway, he did go on Eric Swalwell Lance Bass of the
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Backstreet Boys. Tim Daly, David Hogg, who doesn't remember him,
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you might as well have just said a bunch of rich white dudes for
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Kamala, and that and so I don't think that you could see 200,000
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or however however many they they claim, you couldn't see
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that many on the Zoom call. It was streamed, they screamed at
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live so you could sit around, and they could all pontificate.
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I would say Jeff Bridges was the most disappointing even Jeff
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Bridges was disappointing. He's that he's a dude. He's like, Oh,
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I'm a dude. So of course, I'm for President Harris. I want
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Harris for President. Anyway, fine.
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John C Dvorak: By the way, just as an aside, since you mentioned
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him. Buddha judge is making the strongest push to be vice
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president of all these guys. Yeah. And I when I wrote that
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essay, which is in the vortex substack.com The last essay I
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wrote, predicting it was going to be Shapiro or Cooper Cooper
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dropped out. I can just go out I mentioned budaj edge, but I just
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glossed it over thinking that nobody in their right mind would
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pick him But I think they might make that mistake of picking him
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Unknown: if they pick him
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Adam Curry: if this now here's the interesting thing first of
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all, there's no question about what a man or a woman is. I
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didn't see any any drag queens on the call, which was
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disappointing, or I don't think there are any drag queen queens
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on the on the the cat lady call. So all of a sudden we know
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exactly what a man and a woman is. That seems to be clear. And
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I'm sorry as Scott Scott Galloway, but Jews are not
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white. I've heard this consistently.
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John C Dvorak: That's something that angers Horowitz by the way.
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Yes, he
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Adam Curry: he, he's I'm not really. I'm a Jew. Well, it's
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alright, because then he can join Scott Galloway's call,
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which is Jews for Harris,
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Unknown: I'm getting involved in another one. Jews for Harris,
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I'm worried that a lot of a lot of Jews, including myself are so
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kind of rattled by October 7. And we're concerned about some
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of what we perceive as anti Israel comments from the far
21:04
left that it's pivoted a lot of people to the right, and a lot
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of Jews have become one issue voters. And what I'm going to
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try and do, and I want to do something similar to what these
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guys have done, I've been inspired. Because I don't think
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I think if you really put on your critical thinking hat, I
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think that that's in terms of not only the end of the award,
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but a sustainable piece would be to have the continuation of the
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Biden Harris administration, I don't think they get nearly as
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much credit as they should, for their steadfast support of
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Israel and immediately deploying aircraft carrier forces over
21:37
there. And also post when the war does come to an end, make
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your Make Your Own Making it now. post, post the end of the
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war, you're gonna have to have a fairly complex multilateral
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peace force there and who is most likely to build an enduring
21:53
peace, you'll probably have to have back channel negotiations
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with Iran. Is that is that Anthony Blinken or someone who's
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likely to be a future resident of a federal or state prison
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somewhere, which is a one in three chance of any cabinet
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appointee of the Trump administration. Okay.
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John C Dvorak: What is that all about? And by the way, I said,
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Hey, I know if you misunderstood me or not, but but Hora was
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irked by the fact that he thinks that some Jews are considered
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non white. Yes.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, that's no, I understood you perfectly.
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Understood you perfectly. Let's just go back to Vance for
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Galloway
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John C Dvorak: seems to I don't know what he right. I didn't do
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I have no no, no, he went clip was confusing to me.
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Adam Curry: He went out because he said you and he has a Jew.
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But
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John C Dvorak: what did he say? He says
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Adam Curry: that we need Harris to be president because they'll
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protect Israel. What I know nuts. Well, he's saying the
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reason why is because you want Anthony Blinken there. That's
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really what he said. entity.
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John C Dvorak: Blinken, the guy who organized the 51 phony
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baloney intelligence agents to say that Hunter laptop, the
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Hunter Biden laptop was Yes, I know, fake. You're not kidding
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me.
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Adam Curry: I'm really divided or torn about Scott Galloway
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because, you know, he identifies you know, this, Hey, this is
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really identity politics. This is no good. But he can't help
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himself because he has to suck up to Kara to keep his job, I
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guess. Not that he needs it. Guys got houses in London and
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Aspen and he's done quite well for himself. He also gave away
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$50,000 on the college like, I'm a white man. I'm Scott Galloway,
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and I'm going to match $50,000 if Mark Hamill will say, I'm
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Luke Skywalker, I'm here to save you. Which of course Mark Hamill
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did. His the whole thing was so pathetic. Now earlier they
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talked about this weird sex. Yes. JD Vance. weird sex. Now
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they're literally taking memes from the internet and
23:52
propagating
23:53
Unknown: them or it's been about JD Vance. And there's another
23:56
thing about him. I don't know how to say this. Him having sex
24:01
with a sofa?
24:05
To do the romantic, romantic interactions with seat cushions
24:10
of the couch. I will we need to point out totally unfounded. It
24:15
was a joke that started on the internet. But it took on a life
24:18
of its own and then you had people like the Associated Press
24:21
doing fact checks on JD Vance did not have sex with the couch.
24:25
Yeah,
24:25
and but that's again, to our point about you know, this stuff
24:28
can end up not being true, but it kind of like people decide
24:30
that it's what they want to believe and it plays into
24:32
existing ideas they have about someone. And so even though it's
24:35
not true, it's kind of people going well, like I believed it
24:37
could be true. So therefore, is it true even though you know,
24:40
again, totally unfounded, you
24:42
Adam Curry: know, so when when there's something obviously a
24:45
parody about Kamala Harris, this was the BBC, by the way. Then
24:48
it's like, Whoa, this is this is dangerous. People might believe
24:52
this stuff. But then once about a Republican then it's like, oh,
24:55
wow, that is funny. It's hilarious. It's so great. Yes,
24:58
we love it. So of course this is all about discrediting JD Vance.
25:03
And obviously we have to bring his whiteness into it, and
25:07
probably little religious overtones. Let's go.
25:10
Unknown: And in Louisiana, the Daily Advertiser reports that
25:13
the United States birth rate is down as fewer adults want to
25:16
have kids. According to a 2023 Pew Research survey, 47% of
25:22
childless adults under 50 say they aren't planning on having
25:25
any children. Many younger adults say they want to focus on
25:29
other things instead, and raise concerns about the state of the
25:32
world and the costs associated with raising a child. Some older
25:36
adults say they don't have kids due to medical reasons, or
25:39
because they haven't found the right partner and Molly is the
25:43
stats. Are there more and more Americans choosing not to have
25:46
kids, which again, emphasizes why JD Vance has comments about
25:49
childless Americans, childless cat ladies, by the
25:51
Adam Curry: way? So they're kind of conflating two things, you
25:56
know, and this was 11 years ago but he said yes there with our
25:58
country is run by childless cat ladies who are unhappy they want
26:01
to make us unhappy. The other thing he did it the way I
26:05
understood it, I may be wrong is he said Hey, we should stimulate
26:08
people having children and we should give them tax breaks for
26:12
that which the the M five M has now turned around into. They
26:16
want to punish people who don't have children, which is amazing,
26:21
an amazing good amazing way of presenting it's good I'll give
26:25
them that to be so politically damaging
26:27
John C Dvorak: why they do what is in the mainstream media use
26:30
that same logic with this with this money giveaway for student
26:33
loans. Now, please,
26:35
Adam Curry: let's choosing not to have kids,
26:36
Unknown: which again emphasizes why JD Vance's comments about
26:39
childless Americans childless cat ladies to be so politically
26:42
damaging damage. What's
26:43
interesting is this is this natal ism that comes from an
26:45
authoritarian playbook. right that there need to work. It's a
26:49
playbook white.
26:51
John C Dvorak: That associates with Putin. Yeah, well, yeah,
26:53
Adam Curry: there is a playbook we get into it NATO is that do
26:56
you say Do you said NATO? lism NATO lism that's like being pro
27:02
child I guess natal ism. That's a good one. I look into that
27:05
NATO lism natal is I've never seen a policy
27:09
John C Dvorak: paradigm or personal value that promotes the
27:11
reproduction of human life as a as an important objective of
27:15
humanity. And you have that but but it's the term itself has a
27:20
negative intonation, natal natal ism, like nativism? Yeah, it's a
27:26
good, that's where they use it. Yes,
27:28
Adam Curry: Anita lism. Nice.
27:29
Unknown: What's interesting is this is this natal ism that
27:31
comes from an authoritarian playbook. right that there was
27:35
the more white children, right.
27:38
Nobody said that. Yes. But this is
27:40
Adam Curry: the point. It's all about white Christian
27:42
nationalism. Don't you understand that?
27:45
Unknown: There there need to be more white children. Right.
27:47
That's the idea that there's you know,
27:50
John C Dvorak: where did this clip come from? What
27:52
Adam Curry: outlet MSNBC morning, Joe? Oh, oh, oh, yeah.
27:57
Oh, now now, it's understood, of course. But this is another one
28:01
of those messages. This is the whole racism thing. These guys
28:06
only want more white children that there
28:08
Unknown: needs to be more white children. Right. That's the idea
28:12
that there's you know, this is about great replacement theory
28:15
racism, right. This is what this is so.
28:19
Adam Curry: So saying we should encourage people to have
28:22
children which we clearly need if you want your Social Security
28:25
be paid by anybody who's working. But that's really great
28:29
replacement theory because they want white children. Okay,
28:33
Unknown: placement theory racism, right. Misunderstanding
28:37
it for him wanting more children. He wants a certain
28:40
kind of, you know, racist thing. So I would say, yeah, there are
28:45
certain
28:46
John C Dvorak: people are disgusting. It's fantastic.
28:50
Adam Curry: This is going in the archives in 100 years, someone
28:53
will recover this
28:54
John C Dvorak: NBC. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Well, let me just just
28:58
interrupt a clip for a minute. No, and mention. MSNBC. Rachel
29:04
Maddow, do you know how much money she makes a year $8
29:08
Adam Curry: million.
29:10
John C Dvorak: 24 annual as reported by multiple sources,
29:13
I'm going to read this. She recently signed a five year deal
29:17
with Rachel worth more than 120 million this is working one day
29:20
a week or $500,000 a show. We had two executive producers for
29:24
this show, which is Erin and her bucks each for us. We're making
29:29
big dough party. Hey, but you know what were some sources
29:32
suggest the annual income could be as high as 29 or 30 million,
29:36
as reported by the mayor of MSN or a report called Rachel mad
29:41
dough. And this is on the on the this is on the shoulders of
29:45
Brian L. Roberts, the CEO of Comcast who doesn't even make
29:50
that much his salary as it were at least as of 2016. Maybe
29:53
higher now. Was 29 or 28 point 6 million she making Less than
30:00
Rachael. So they're paying her to just be a hateful person on
30:05
the show. And you'll notice this when she does her sketches. I've
30:08
got a couple of clips I'll do later. But when she looks down
30:11
at the end of her bid, when she goes to commercial, she looks
30:14
down with the most guilt ridden look I've ever seen on anybody.
30:18
She knows that she's cheating the world. Well, she
30:22
Adam Curry: knows, we're, we're all vapor here, John, when when
30:25
it's time for us to go, she's going to be looking into a fiery
30:29
pit of hell. And you and me, we're going to be on the cloud
30:32
laughing.
30:34
John C Dvorak: Making the same amount, the same amount.
30:37
Unknown: Don't misunderstand it for him wanting more children.
30:41
He wants a certain kind of, you know, racist thing. So I would
30:45
say, yeah, there are certain it's certainly true. And
30:47
attacking people for not having children is really cruel, right?
30:51
Because some people can't have children. Oh, you know, I have
30:56
children and you know, can't miss the window. So I do think
31:00
window Lee, just a very terrible way to go after people. No,
31:05
Adam Curry: it's just, it's a terrible way to go after people.
31:08
Well, no, the terrible way to go after people is what's happening
31:12
now because and it was a big mistake. I think I believe the
31:16
guy who was in charge of Project 2025, at the Heritage
31:20
Foundation, he resigned he less should have Yes, he's like, Oh,
31:24
that was a mistake to put that paper out. Now I have read. I
31:28
have read the paper.
31:31
John C Dvorak: Now some Well, 900 pages really more
31:33
Adam Curry: than 938. I think. Now I'm going to be the first to
31:37
say I skimmed through some of the obvious chat GPT generated
31:41
stuff because they could have done this in 90 pages. But it
31:46
was it was literally like here's 90 pages, put it into chat GBT
31:51
so for sure, I know. None of these people have read it at
31:55
all. Certainly not joy read from MSNBC.
31:59
Unknown: You won't have to vote anymore. My beautiful
32:01
Christians. I love you Christians. I'm not Christian. I
32:04
love you get out. You gotta get out and vote in for us. You
32:08
don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed. Oh, good. You're
32:10
not gonna have to vote.
32:12
Do you believe if Donald Trump were elected next year, that he
32:16
would try to stay in office beyond a second term? I think
32:19
we'd never leave office, there's no question. Do you think he
32:22
would try to stay in power forever? Absolutely. The stakes
32:26
could not be higher. Trump says if he wins, you won't have to
32:30
vote anymore. We are laying out the dangers of project 2025 your
32:36
manifesto that would give him that authoritarian power, limit
32:40
your rights and force you and your family to change the way
32:44
you live your life. And we begin this special episode of the
32:51
readout tonight with a dire warning. See, over the next
32:55
hour, I will lay out the greatest threat to the American
32:58
democratic experiment in modern times. And it's called Project
33:03
2025.
33:04
Adam Curry: So the you know, you identified this, this obvious,
33:09
at best misreading of what Trump said to a total distortion of
33:15
the truth. And you even heard you talk about on DH unplug,
33:19
like
33:20
John C Dvorak: because Horowitz was bought into it too.
33:23
Adam Curry: Now, do you think do you think he was really bought
33:25
into it?
33:26
John C Dvorak: He was baffled by it. He wasn't he didn't buy into
33:29
it. But he was baffled by it. And once I explained it to him,
33:32
it was fine with it. I have a clip about this too. And you're
33:34
done. But I just want to say yeah, yeah, I think he bought he
33:38
kind of bought into Oh, it
33:39
Adam Curry: works. So this so we needed to do an intervention on
33:43
him
33:45
John C Dvorak: that he's fine with. I mean, it was just the
33:47
one this is just just this one thing, okay. And this again is
33:51
on the shoulder of Brian Roberts because this is one of his
33:55
people are getting good money to it. She's not getting to 30
33:59
million that Rachel's getting but she needs to do this stuck
34:03
on there's no reason that these people are making this much
34:06
money. They're not bringing in that much. Well,
34:09
Adam Curry: now I'm going to disagree with you because it's
34:12
money from cable news is not from the advertisements,
34:15
although that's not bad. It's from the cable fees. So they
34:19
have wide coverage. So they're bringing in Big Bang, they got a
34:21
budget. It's just being you know, the minute people stopped
34:24
cutting the cable that's when it hurts everybody, but they get
34:28
one two bucks per subscriber so they have a fixed amount they
34:31
get every single month. So bringing in more money on
34:36
advertising doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. And by the way,
34:40
Elon Musk bought Twitter what for the revenue for the profit.
34:43
No. For power is for power. So that Comcast guy, is it Comcast?
34:50
Yeah, Comcast. Yeah, it's for power. So this that's why oh,
34:53
that's H L hunt. Had a 600 radio stations for power. Doesn't
34:59
matter if you make money or not? Jeff Bezos was a Washington Post
35:03
power Jhansi, Dvorak, Adam curry, no agenda show power, top
35:10
power. All right, so then I'm only slightly insulted that you
35:16
insinuate that I did not read all project 2025 Because I do
35:19
that kind of stuff I've read to
35:21
John C Dvorak: do, but it's boring. It's too long. It's
35:24
dumb. It is
35:25
Adam Curry: it is boring and dumb. And then the way Trump is
35:28
distancing himself from it is disingenuous. Because there's
35:33
been it's very much a Trump like agenda. There's some things I
35:37
mean, obviously was written before Roe v. Wade was, the
35:41
document was overturned that known as Roe v. Wade. So there
35:46
and he's been very clear, but of course, he's lying, that he
35:49
wants three exceptions and send it back to the States. And, you
35:53
know, so in this is just Oh, no, it's they want a national
35:57
abortion banned. It's all lies and disingenuous. But we bring
36:03
on the former executive director of Planned Parenthood, Kelly
36:07
Robinson, to talk about what she thinks is the worst, the worst
36:11
thing in the joy read had the printout of all 900 pages on our
36:16
desk, you know, this, is it, this is it. This is what's going
36:20
to kill democracy.
36:21
Unknown: What do you find the most alarming and the most
36:23
frightening the thing that you want people to know about top of
36:25
mind, you know, how they
36:27
are using the federal government institutionalized bigotry
36:30
structurally right. That he would come into office and fire
36:34
nearly a million federal workers career workers, right. That's
36:38
scary. No, that's
36:39
Adam Curry: not scary. That's dynamite. Everybody wants
36:41
Unknown: that million federal workers career workers. Right,
36:45
right. Scary. And they put foot soldiers that would just carry
36:48
out His will. The idea that they want to turn
36:50
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, isn't that what's supposed to happen?
36:53
Isn't the executive branch supposed to do what the laws
36:57
have, as written by Congress, and the direction of the
37:01
president? Isn't that the point now we call them foot soldiers,
37:04
which they just don't like these foot soldiers. That's scary.
37:07
Unknown: And then input foot characters, and we just carry
37:10
out His will, the idea that they want to turn the Health and
37:12
Human Services Agency into the department of life and charge it
37:16
with promoting heterosexuality as a quote unquote, ideal family
37:20
unit, and then attach federal benefits to those to those
37:24
criteria. That's scary. And I think that's scary. It's
37:27
Adam Curry: scary that you attach federal benefits. By the
37:30
way, we have federal benefits. We have child tax breaks, and
37:34
the people who would benefit the most are black Americans. You
37:38
races, lady, please.
37:41
Unknown: That's scary. And I think ultimately, we're not just
37:43
talking about policies or impacting specific communities,
37:46
though, that laid out quite clearly in Project 2025. But
37:49
over time, that is the undermining of democracy. He's
37:52
even saying out loud if you vote in this election for him for
37:55
Donald Trump, that could be the last election you have to vote
37:58
for is Dr. Maya Angelou said when someone shows you who they
38:01
are, believe that the first time
38:03
people always leave out the first time. Yes,
38:05
Adam Curry: yes. Yes, Queen. All right. So now to bring in the
38:09
most skit, the scariest thing, scary, so scary, is the Robert
38:17
Jones, he's the director of the Public Religion Research
38:21
Institute. He should know he should know what's going on.
38:25
Obviously, this is a very godly man.
38:27
Unknown: What's likely the most,
38:29
John C Dvorak: there's actually two sentences out of all this
38:31
900 pages that I think were the most chilling to me to read, I
38:35
read them here. An individual must be free to live as his
38:40
creator ordained in order to flourish. Our constitution
38:45
grants each of us the liberty to do not what we want. But what we
38:50
ought. Now who gets to define that ought the very next
38:53
sentence gives us a clue. The pursuit of the good life is
38:56
found primarily in family, marriage, children, Thanksgiving
39:00
dinners, and the like. So that other 900 pages that that's in
39:03
the foreword, this document that what the other 900 pages really
39:06
are about that 1950s Norman Rockwell vision of a white
39:10
Christian America, you know, with white Christian men and
39:12
their heterosexual marriages, kind of raining up here and
39:15
everybody else knowing their place. So
39:18
Adam Curry: if I can distill what he just said, he said, What
39:21
they want is white Christian men at the top telling everybody
39:25
what to do. But the problem is, I have the 900 pages in front of
39:30
me, and he didn't read the next paragraph. So I'll just read
39:34
that last bit. Again, our constitution grants each of us
39:38
liberty to do not what we want but what we ought. This pursuit
39:42
of the good life is found primarily in family marriage,
39:45
children, Thanksgiving dinners, and the like. He omitted the
39:49
next paragraph. Many find happiness through their work.
39:52
Think of dedicated teachers or health care professionals,
39:55
professionals, you know, entrepreneurs or plumbers
39:57
throwing themselves into their business. Anyone Who sees a job
40:00
well done as a personal reward, religious devotion and
40:03
spirituality spirituality are the greatest sources of
40:07
happiness around the world. Still, others find themselves
40:10
happiest in their local voluntary communities of
40:12
friends, their neighbors, their civic or charitable work. The
40:16
American Republic was founded on principles prioritizing and
40:19
maximizing individual's rights, to live their best life or to
40:22
enjoy what the framers called the blessing of Liberty is this
40:26
radical equality liberty for all, not just of rights, but of
40:30
authority that the rich and powerful have hated about
40:33
democracy in America since 1776. They resent Americans audacity
40:39
in insisting that we don't need them to tell us how to live. It
40:42
is this inalienable right of self direction of each person's
40:46
opportunity to direct himself or herself and his or her community
40:50
to the good that the that is what the ruling class disdains.
40:54
And he just showed it to us right there. Exactly. And by
40:58
omitting what they actually wrote, and this Jumoke didn't
41:01
even get past the introduction, what a joker. Anyway, we'll
41:05
finish it up with the with the dangerous for women and
41:09
Unknown: for women, what are the most alarming things because
41:12
obviously, a national ban on abortion would be a part of it.
41:14
But there's a lot more to it. I mean, the Comstock Act looms
41:16
pretty large, you could use it in more ways than just to stop
41:19
abortion,
41:21
fundamentally reshape American life for women in this country.
41:24
I mean, you can see all of that laid out in Project 2025. But I
41:27
do have to say this, it clearly calls for a national ban on
41:31
abortion, they intend to make that the reality. Also know that
41:34
in the ways that they're defining the ideal family unit,
41:38
they are actually trying to put provisions into, into place to
41:41
control us in our decisions. I mean, this Trad wife kind of
41:44
housewife trying to trying to promote, that's actually a
41:47
system of power control over women's lives. So let's be
41:50
clear, everything that we enjoy today is our normal way of being
41:53
right from being able to work to raise your kids in a way that
41:56
you choose to have a partner that you decide and pick all of
42:00
that they're saying they want the government to control it. So
42:03
let's be clear, this is a dangerous dangerous document
42:06
that's laying out exactly what they plan to do.
42:09
Adam Curry: Oh, lordy. What a lie It's total. I can do you
42:13
mind if I just go into one more quick set here because it stays
42:18
on the it stays on the bow the the Trump thing?
42:27
John C Dvorak: If as long as Yeah, cuz I do have a Trump I
42:29
have a clip to play about that. So I can.
42:32
Adam Curry: Now you can you can come in right after that.
42:34
Morning.
42:36
Unknown: AMY GOODMAN clip. Oh, no,
42:38
you
42:38
didn't say that.
42:40
Adam Curry: I tricked you. I tricked you. Listen to what Amy
42:44
Goodman did.
42:46
Unknown: Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump made
42:49
headlines this week after suggesting that this year's
42:53
election could be the last US election if he wins in November.
42:57
Adam Curry: Can you believe that? AMY GOODMAN did this. Amy
43:01
Goodman, democracy bully
43:04
John C Dvorak: I do believe
43:05
Unknown: you do believe less
43:06
election if he wins in November Trump made the comment Friday in
43:10
Florida at Turning Point actions believers point. Any
43:14
collusion out and vote justice time. You won't have to do it
43:22
anymore. Four more years. You know what? It'll be fixed. It'll
43:26
be fine.
43:27
For more on who's backing Trump's efforts, we look at a
43:30
secret organization for the Christians who
43:32
Adam Curry: are working. Oh no, it's a secret organization purge
43:36
more
43:36
Unknown: than a million voters from the rolls in battleground
43:40
states and mobilize Republican voters to back Trump. It's
43:44
called Ziklag. news outlets pro publica and documented obtain
43:50
1000s of sick flags internal files, and found the group has
43:54
divided its 2024 activities into three different operations
43:58
steeplechase which uses churches to get out the vote, and
44:02
watchtower which aims to rally voters around opposition to
44:06
transgender rights.
44:08
Adam Curry: This is amazing. So pro publica did a whole the
44:12
Expos a on Ziklag with they have a website. You can download the
44:18
stuff from the website. So the scariest part there is
44:22
checkmate? Oh no. So we have Watchtower we have I forget the
44:26
second one we have going we got checkmate. They're going to
44:28
purge the voter rolls and they have a scary scary video about
44:33
it. The third
44:33
Unknown: operation called checkmate focused on funding so
44:37
called election integrity groups as laid out in this Ziklag
44:41
member strategy video. Voter
44:43
irregularities are rampid across all 50 states, but especially
44:47
pronounced in battleground states. public polling confirms
44:51
Americans have lost confidence in electoral integrity. The
44:54
federal election already in full swing, and more must be done to
44:59
ensure fair election Since in the most affordable Republic in
45:02
the world, that's the purpose behind operation checkmate, and
45:05
its practical approaches to both get out the vote and clean
45:09
electoral rolls through our coalition partners. Through
45:12
these efforts, we have the opportunity to play a
45:14
significant role in the upcoming election. Pro
45:17
Publica report Ziklag mission is to take dominion over seven
45:22
spheres of public life, which calls mountains, business,
45:26
science and technology, family arts and media, church education
45:31
and government. Oh
45:32
Adam Curry: no, the secret Christians are coming to get
45:35
you. They're gonna take dominion over all of these mountains.
45:39
Let's bring in the pro publica guide to explain Ziklag
45:43
Unknown: Ziklag is a secret of networks of ultra wealthy
45:47
Christians, conservative Christians like it who
45:51
John C Dvorak: just got this big website if they could download
45:53
the whole thing. How secret is that it's secretive,
45:56
Adam Curry: this sneaky of ultra wealthy Christians,
45:59
Unknown: conservative Christians who have this two part goal two
46:04
part vision for this country. One is to get heavily involved
46:08
in the 2024 elections in the ways that you just described
46:12
mobilizing pastors oh no knocking people off the voting
46:15
room no non trans people demonize hate conservative
46:19
voters. But then looking toward the 20 and 30 year horizon
46:24
Ziklag school is nothing less than moving the country toward a
46:29
state of Christian nationalism are having biblical worldviews
46:33
quote unquote, biblical truth, shaping influencing every part
46:38
of American culture those seven mountains that you describe so
46:41
this really is, as one expert we quoted in the story told us a
46:45
vision for Christian supremacy Christian super is a new word.
46:49
Adam Curry: Christian Christianity, Uber, Alice, yes,
46:53
we will get you we will annihilate you. And then Amy
46:56
asked the most important question, what exactly is Ziklag
46:59
Ziklag. The
47:00
Unknown: name refers to a biblical reference about David
47:03
taking refuge during his struggle with King Saul. The
47:07
analogy here, of course, is that the Christians in this group
47:10
apparently feel that they are under siege and that this group
47:13
is their refuge. But then the place from which they plan
47:17
their, their their campaign, their assault, to take back
47:21
American culture,
47:22
Adam Curry: he missed a great opportunity. Because the story
47:25
of Ziklag is that David and his small band of troops cut off the
47:30
hem of their garments, and made it look like there were many,
47:33
many more of these secret Christians than that was the
47:37
trick. I forgot to put that in. These people are nuts. And I'm
47:42
so disappointed in Amy Goodman, I have no love for Amy Goodman,
47:46
but to introduce this secretive group with a website with videos
47:52
you can download, as you know, as as part of Trump's master
47:56
plan to never have Christians or never have anyone vote again. Is
48:01
is just insane. And i i Unfortunately, people like
48:08
Horowitz now, although just initially, and without some
48:12
guidance from his mentor, fall for it.
48:17
John C Dvorak: Here's my last version of the same thing. This
48:20
is the never vote again. This is again, the insincere guilt
48:25
ridden Rachel Maddow doing the bidding of Brian Roberts, CEO of
48:30
Comcast. And here's her version of that same, that same Trump
48:36
we're never going to vote again bit.
48:38
Unknown: Donald Trump told an audience on Friday night that if
48:41
they vote for him this November, if he's voted back into office
48:45
this November, they will never have to vote again. He told an
48:49
audience on Friday to quote get out and vote just this time. He
48:54
said after this time, quote, you won't have to do it anymore. You
48:57
won't have to vote anymore. He said, quote in four years, you
49:01
don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed, so good. And
49:05
you're not going to have to vote. Now, this is not the first
49:09
time Trump has told the campaign audience that they will never
49:12
have to vote again once they vote him back in this time. And
49:14
that is as alarming as it sounds for all the reasons that you
49:18
immediately think it is right. I mean, he's positing this like
49:21
this is a happy thing. Oh, joy, never having the burden of
49:25
voting again. Right. The point of democracy is that we vote all
49:28
the time. And we like it. That's how we decide what happens in
49:32
our country. He's promising his followers that he'll end all of
49:35
that. And it just, it's exactly what you think it is. Could
49:39
John C Dvorak: you please just drop right at the end there?
49:41
He's promising his followers. He'll end all that. When does he
49:47
ever say that to anybody that he's going to end it? He doesn't
49:51
say that. What he says is you don't have to worry about it
49:54
anymore because because he knows that the Christian evangelicals
49:58
don't like voting. or they don't seem to get out much. And they
50:02
don't have to go back again. He's never says he's going to
50:05
end anything that is a blatant lie by her and misinterpretation
50:10
of what actually happened. And she does it on purpose. There's
50:13
no she's doing it on purpose. She is not like it's sincere.
50:17
Well, you know, I didn't understand I'm pretty sincere,
50:22
though. No, she's not sincere. She is a liar. It's just It's
50:28
deplorable. It's disgusting. Back How blatant? It is, I
50:32
Adam Curry: think is I think is funny. I mean, I still like to
50:37
go back to that color. Not all of the American public is
50:40
stupid. Most
50:42
John C Dvorak: of the American public is stupid. It turns out
50:45
well, we'll see. We're gonna end up with President Harris. Go I
50:52
have a when you're done. I want to play a clip about Harris that
50:56
I think needs to be played. Well.
50:58
Adam Curry: I got one more one more Trump bash.
51:02
John C Dvorak: Number another Trump bash bash.
51:04
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is Erin Burnett back on the scene. Who's
51:07
on the ozempic back to her fighting weight of the old CNBC
51:11
days.
51:12
John C Dvorak: Ah, she's looking for work.
51:16
Adam Curry: She's primetime. CNN, um, she's fine. She's she's
51:19
she's in the in the Maddow League. No doubt. No, she's
51:23
John C Dvorak: not 30 million.
51:24
Adam Curry: She's probably not doing too bad anyway, who shows
51:27
up with some racist stuff? Because who else who better
51:32
would know that? Former President Donald Trump is
51:36
racist. That his nephew Fred, the breaking
51:39
Unknown: news, Donald Trump's nephew going all in for Kamala
51:42
Harris, Fred Trump telling us he'll join Harris and her team
51:46
on a call this week, and that he's ready to campaign for her
51:49
saying that she is the only person who can move the country
51:51
forward. Fred Trump has publicly for the first
51:55
John C Dvorak: she totally Bridgegate moved the country for
51:57
let's bring Mary Trump on next.
52:00
Unknown: This guy's great saying that she is the only person who
52:03
can move the country forward. Fred Trump has publicly for the
52:06
first time breaking ranks with his family, writing about his
52:08
relationship with Donald Trump and his new book, all in the
52:11
family and Fred Trump is out front with me now. Oh,
52:14
Adam Curry: he's got a book. Okay. The old book, the old book
52:18
scam. All right. So he's going to explain to us how he knows
52:22
that. Donald J. Trump is a racist. So I
52:26
Unknown: want to talk to you about something you write in the
52:27
book you there's a moment you're you're young, someone vandalizes
52:30
Donald Trump's car. Okay, so that's the setup. And then about
52:32
this moment, right, you say n words is this is you. I recall
52:39
him saying disgustedly. Look what the n words did. And then
52:43
you add, quote, Donald hadn't seen whoever did this. So it's
52:48
it's twofold. It's one that he didn't say who did it. He makes
52:50
an assumption about who it is, what color they are, and then
52:54
refers to them as the N word. His campaign says this is a
52:57
fabricated story. I just want to give you a chance to respond and
53:01
tell me how this story has lived in your life.
53:05
It's the absolute truth. And I remember as if it were
53:08
yesterday, he had a black roof. He had a roll of electrical
53:12
tape, taping up the probably the slash was about this, this long,
53:16
two of them. And he was he was pressed. And again, he just
53:23
assumed it was black people who had
53:26
Adam Curry: done that. And he called them the N word. Okay.
53:29
Well, he remembers as if it was yesterday, but he's a good guy,
53:32
this Fred Trump because he can connect all kinds of things in
53:37
Trump's racist life around this
53:41
John C Dvorak: before I looking at this report on this, this was
53:46
in the 1970s. Yes,
53:49
Adam Curry: he remembers it as if it was yesterday.
53:52
John C Dvorak: I can't remember anything from the 1970s. Okay,
53:58
all righty, then I have a good memory, believe me. Around
54:02
Unknown: the same time, I had a bike stolen. I lived in Jamaica,
54:05
Queens, and three young black kids that my age, took my bike
54:11
that wasn't going to put up a fight. And the police called my
54:14
mom and said we found the bike and, and the person one of the
54:18
people who had done it. And she called Donald because my father
54:21
unfortunately was not around. We went to the police station. And
54:25
Donald was adamant about the kid being thrown in jail, which I
54:30
just couldn't take. I mean, he was a kid my age. I didn't want
54:34
to be responsible for you or perhaps I was 10. I didn't want
54:39
to be responsible for this kid's life being changed. Flash
54:43
forward 17 years or so. Central Park Five, same thing. He has no
54:48
evidence that those five young men were guilty of what they
54:51
were charged with. Yet he puts out a full page ad asking for
54:55
their
54:56
execution. Would you use the word racist? To describe him?
54:59
I think he just believes in things that racist people say,
55:04
Wow, what is that he's
55:06
Adam Curry: not a racist. He just believes in certain things
55:09
that racist people say they're pulling out all the stops on
55:13
this one. So
55:15
John C Dvorak: in 1970 Fred Trump, the third was eight. Yes.
55:23
And he remembers as clearly as though you know, it was
55:25
yesterday. Yes.
55:26
Adam Curry: As an
55:27
John C Dvorak: eight at the age of eight. Yes. Okay.
55:30
Adam Curry: Yes. It's fantastic. It's great. I mean, they are
55:34
just, oh, my god, please.
55:36
John C Dvorak: He's the brother of Mary. Of course. Yeah,
55:38
Adam Curry: of course. Let me let me just stick with Aaron
55:41
because she had one more guest on now this and do you have any
55:45
of the National Association of Black Journalists clips because
55:49
I got a few.
55:50
John C Dvorak: I do have one. Right. Well,
55:53
Adam Curry: let me see. I have a problem. You gotta.
55:55
John C Dvorak: You gotta find another word.
55:57
Adam Curry: Okay. Well, here's the problem. Let me see.
56:05
John C Dvorak: This is not here it is. I got it.
56:08
Adam Curry: Is it a backgrounder?
56:10
John C Dvorak: It's a it's a NPR, NPR good. I don't have NPR
56:14
of NPR. It's it's an NPR short. It's actually a short clip as an
56:18
NPR clip. Where they were they they? They can't keep themselves
56:25
from editorializing in the news analysis. It's just like, you
56:29
can play this if you want to. I don't know if it's a good
56:31
background or not. It does kind of it it kind of a background.
56:34
This is reamp at NAB J
56:37
Unknown: former President Donald Trump made some inflammatory
56:40
comments about Vice President Kamala Harris's racial
56:43
background today in a q&a at the Black Journalists conference,
56:47
the GOP nominee question Harris's black identity. More
56:50
from NPR, Stephen Fowler at the National Association of Black
56:53
Journalists convention in Chicago. Trump's had many
56:56
negative things about many people. But the room gasped when
56:59
Trump implied Harris changed how she identifies herself in racial
57:03
terms for political advantage.
57:05
I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when
57:08
she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as
57:11
black. So I don't know. Is she Indian? Or is she black
57:14
Harris is both her father's black and her mother is South
57:17
Asian. Trump has a history of calling out his political
57:20
rivals, including President Obama and more recently, former
57:23
Governor Nikki Haley and questioning whether they are
57:26
quote American, Steve Wyler, NPR News. Watch had that
57:32
John C Dvorak: question whether they're American where does he
57:34
throw that in it? No one's ever question whether American what
57:39
is what is that bit at the end there? They then PR should be
57:42
ashamed of itself for letting that debt piece goes through. He
57:45
never said anything about them being American.
57:50
Adam Curry: So I actually no, there was no I saw this whole
57:53
thing because I happen to be in the studio and like, Oh, let me
57:55
just watch this as it was coming in live. Yeah,
57:57
John C Dvorak: I watched it to a couple of back roads. A woman
58:00
from ABC was just mean. Well, but then
58:03
Adam Curry: he had Harris on the other side, she seems actually
58:06
like him. And, you know, the she was the journalist all the way
58:10
on the right hand side. Yeah, she's
58:12
John C Dvorak: the fox girl.
58:13
Adam Curry: Oh, she's Fox. Okay. I thought she was ABC. Now what?
58:16
No, no, ABC
58:17
John C Dvorak: is the one in the blue at the open. Now, just
58:19
Adam Curry: in general, I will say that. I'm now this is the
58:22
National Association of Black Journalists. There was, I don't
58:26
know about audible gasp but there was more clapping than I
58:29
expected for people
58:32
John C Dvorak: that attended it. felt that way too. And you
58:35
Adam Curry: have to understand and I understand it because of
58:38
my work with Moe, that the black community as is known of so
58:44
called Black people understand exactly what Trump is saying.
58:48
And they know this because they went through this with Obama.
58:52
They knew Obama wasn't African American Black is a DOS,
58:58
American descendant of slavery. No, but they let him slide
59:03
because of Michelle, who is black, amongst other things. And
59:10
he slipped it in another pot. There it is. The pun. And so the
59:18
real disappointment came was like, Oh, well, the first term
59:21
you know, but you know, he's got Michelle so it'll work now and
59:24
then instead of getting anything for black America, they got a
59:28
transgender bathrooms and you can go listen to my facts with
59:31
Adam curry. It's all in there. So when Trump goes to a roomful
59:35
of Black Journalists and says, God, she's she's not black, and
59:40
she used to say that she was black. In fact, here's a 22 Yes,
59:45
John C Dvorak: I was gonna match Are you gonna have this 2020 The
59:48
2020s
59:49
Adam Curry: CNN profiled and
59:50
John C Dvorak: did a whole 510 minute bid on her being Indian.
59:55
My
59:56
Unknown: mother, who raised
59:58
me and my sister was a proud woman.
1:00:02
She was a brown woman.
1:00:05
A woman with a heavy accent. And her mother Shamala Gopalan was
1:00:09
also the biggest influence in Kamala Harris's life. In 1958, a
1:00:14
precocious 19 year old Indian Gopalan traveled 1000s of miles
1:00:19
from her home and family to pursue a doctorate in nutrition
1:00:23
and endocrinology in America. She soon became an active civil
1:00:27
rights Crusader while studying at UC Berkeley. In her book,
1:00:31
Harris says, There is no title or honor on earth, I'll treasure
1:00:35
more than to say I am Shyamala Gopalan, Harris's daughter,
1:00:39
Paris's visits to India with a mother kept her connected to her
1:00:43
roots. A grandfather who had strong views on humanitarian
1:00:47
issues, worked closely with officials to reallocate
1:00:50
refugees. Paris's maternal uncle Gopalan. Balachandran, who lives
1:00:54
in Delhi tells us how the senator turns to her Amma, which
1:00:58
means mother in Tamil for guidance, even after her death.
1:01:03
I don't
1:01:03
have to tell her mother. She's already telling me everything
1:01:07
that I do I myself, Amma approve of this timeline.
1:01:12
Hindi means lotus flower and is an important symbol in Indian
1:01:17
culture, rooted deep in the bottom of the river, very
1:01:21
similar to Harris's Indian identity, which she wears on her
1:01:25
sleeve. So
1:01:26
Adam Curry: a couple things about that that I liked. One is
1:01:29
her grandfather talks about Obama. But these days Kamala
1:01:33
Harris talks about Auntie Yeah. Which is, you know, that's
1:01:37
that's what you say if you're a black American, oh, auntie,
1:01:40
auntie, no, but it's Alma. That's what you she used to say.
1:01:43
And also, you know, what's been going around is Kamala means
1:01:47
garbage gobbling you know, look at it, put it in Google
1:01:49
Translate. But in Hindi, it means blossoming flower, lotus
1:01:53
flower, I guess? I guess they
1:01:56
John C Dvorak: didn't have Yeah, I looked up the nose. Now. No,
1:02:00
it does. And it means it means horrible in Finnish, and it
1:02:03
means horrible in Greek.
1:02:06
Adam Curry: So, by the way, as an aside, this whole racist now
1:02:10
not forget about that. So what I'd like to do, because I have
1:02:14
multiple versions of, of Trump at the National Association of
1:02:19
Black Journalists, perhaps it's better instead of playing
1:02:24
snippets, I would just like to play the full first question, so
1:02:28
called question and his answer. So people can will emanate, if
1:02:32
not on a podcast where else so people can get the actual
1:02:35
context of what happened knowing that he was on time, they had an
1:02:40
hour, he had a an Beata set scheduled to leave, apparently,
1:02:44
that they couldn't get their equipment to work. So they
1:02:47
started 3530 minutes late or 35 minutes late. Yeah, which is
1:02:52
rude. And it's also lame, especially for the National
1:02:56
Association of Black Journalists. You think that that
1:02:59
have it all together? I think it's worth it. Just to listen to
1:03:03
how he was greeted, he walks in, sits down. And everything else
1:03:08
you hear on the M five M is all caught up. It's, you know, it's
1:03:14
it's just it's not honest. And this is the honest audio of what
1:03:18
happened.
1:03:19
Unknown: Mr. President, we so appreciate you giving us an hour
1:03:21
of your time. I want to start by addressing the elephant in the
1:03:25
room, sir. A lot of people did not think it was appropriate for
1:03:29
you to be here today. You have pushed false claims about some
1:03:33
of your rivals, from Nikki Haley to former President Barack Obama
1:03:37
saying that they were not born in the United States, which is
1:03:40
not true. You have told for Congressman women of color, who
1:03:43
were American citizens to go back to where they came from.
1:03:46
You have used words like animal and rabbit to describe black
1:03:50
district attorneys. You've attacked Black Journalists
1:03:53
calling them a loser saying the questions that they asked are,
1:03:56
quote, stupid and racist. You've had dinner with a white
1:03:59
supremacist at your Mar a Lago resort. So my question, sir, now
1:04:04
that you were asking black supporters to vote for you, why
1:04:08
should black voters trust you, after you have used language
1:04:11
like that?
1:04:12
Adam Curry: So I mean, to be honest, that's a pretty
1:04:15
aggressive opening. And what I find insulting to my
1:04:21
intelligence is he says that stuff to all journalists and
1:04:25
people, but she just says, Well, you you said to black people,
1:04:29
you're she's highlighting the black people. This is so this is
1:04:34
racist. It's just that these people are racist. The whole
1:04:37
thing is unnecessary we don't America is not racist like this.
1:04:42
John C Dvorak: I will I have to mention some of the I'm pretty
1:04:44
sure it's not in the second section you're playing is later
1:04:48
he says he's talking about immigration being a big threat
1:04:53
and his taken away Black Light jobs. Yeah. And she said we're
1:04:57
and if she does, this pulls the snow what's a black job? because
1:05:00
this is the thing, he says black jobs that everybody's it's just
1:05:03
a job that blacks have. It's like white jobs, white jobs,
1:05:07
black jobs doesn't make any difference. They've taken away
1:05:09
jobs. It just so happens, you're taking away jobs from blacks are
1:05:13
taken away from whites and taken away from Mexicans or taken away
1:05:15
from everybody or Mexican Americans. He is just another
1:05:22
one of these misinterpretations of his implicit, simplistic way
1:05:26
of presenting it, some of these facts. Okay. All right. So
1:05:29
Adam Curry: here's his answer.
1:05:31
Unknown: Well, first of all, I don't think I've ever been asked
1:05:34
the question. So in such a horrible manner, first question,
1:05:40
you don't even say hello, how are you with ABC because I think
1:05:45
they're a fake news network, a terrible.
1:05:48
Adam Curry: I mean, there's laughing there, he's already got
1:05:50
the crowd laughing.
1:05:52
Unknown: And I think it's disgraceful that I came here, in
1:05:57
good spirit. I love the black population of this country. I've
1:06:01
done so much for the black population of this country,
1:06:06
including employment, including opportunity zones with Senator
1:06:11
Tim Scott of South Carolina, which is one of the greatest
1:06:14
programs ever for black workers and black entrepreneurs have
1:06:19
done so much. And you know, and I say this, historically, black
1:06:24
colleges and universities were out of money, they were stone
1:06:28
cold broke, and I saved them. And I gave them long term
1:06:31
financing, and nobody else was doing it. I think it's a very
1:06:35
rude introduction. I don't know exactly why you would do
1:06:39
something like that. And let me go a step further. I was invited
1:06:43
here and I was told my opponent, whether it was Biden or Kamala,
1:06:48
I was told my opponent was going to be here, it turned out my
1:06:51
opponent isn't here. You invited me under false pretense. And
1:06:55
then you said, you can't do it with Zoom? Well, you know, with
1:07:00
Zoom, she's going to do it with Zoom, and she's not coming. And
1:07:03
then you are half an hour late, just so we understand. I have
1:07:05
too much respect to you to be late. They couldn't get their
1:07:08
equipment working or something was wrong. I would like think
1:07:11
it's very nasty. Wife. I have answered the question,
1:07:14
especially with another I have been the best president for the
1:07:18
black population. Since Abraham Lincoln. That's
1:07:22
my answer. President Johnson designed the Voting Rights Act,
1:07:25
you
1:07:25
just start off a question and answer period especially when
1:07:28
you're 35 minutes late, because you couldn't get your equipment
1:07:31
to work in such a hostile manner. I think it's a disgrace.
1:07:35
I really do. Let
1:07:35
me just ask a follow up sir. And then we'll move on to other
1:07:38
questions here.
1:07:39
Adam Curry: I mean, the whole thing was was interesting was I
1:07:42
thought it was he just says I'm just gonna tell you the way it
1:07:45
is. And anyone who watches that with with me Well, no, I mean,
1:07:49
we I guess we have a great portion of the population who's
1:07:52
just all in on racism. Good. Well, we get the government we
1:07:55
deserve beautiful bunch of racism racist racist, racist
1:08:00
that all races is nuts.
1:08:04
John C Dvorak: And if you listen, Chief when she went on
1:08:07
to ABC News, Nightly News did present I don't have the clip.
1:08:12
But when she presented the to David Muir, she was just this
1:08:18
had that same grimace on her face, and she was really she
1:08:20
just hates Trump. It's like, it was just so obvious. It was
1:08:25
well, he was unbelievable. So
1:08:27
Adam Curry: Erin Burnett had had her on as well, because now of
1:08:30
course, you're a journalist. You have to be part of the story.
1:08:32
Now, isn't there some rule against that? Like you
1:08:34
John C Dvorak: never want to you're not supposed to do that?
1:08:36
Yeah, well,
1:08:37
Adam Curry: she's doing it. She's gone the rounds, but I
1:08:39
didn't clip her. I clip the Democratic strategist who's, I
1:08:43
guess part of the part of the movers and the shakers in the
1:08:46
Democrat Party, Aisha Mills, and she summed it up and
1:08:50
Unknown: Aisha Mills is with me now. Right? I used to so you
1:08:52
know, you heard the he was supposed to come for an hour,
1:08:54
but you know, he's up to 35 minutes. I just can't emphasize
1:08:57
enough that he
1:08:58
Adam Curry: don't you just love that. What? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He
1:09:02
was supposed to right off
1:09:03
John C Dvorak: the bat. They lie. You know, your hair and
1:09:06
brunette lied right there on the spot. Yep.
1:09:09
Adam Curry: Yep, yep, yep, yep. Yep. Yep. That's what you do.
1:09:11
That's what you do. That's why we're here. And
1:09:13
Unknown: I Aisha Mills is with me now. Right. I used to so you
1:09:15
know, you heard the I mean, he was supposed to come for an
1:09:18
hour, but you know, he sat for 35 minutes. I just can't
1:09:20
emphasize enough that he chose to be there. He wanted to be
1:09:24
there. And he took his time to go there. Right. All of those
1:09:27
things are true. So what do you think is the outcome of this?
1:09:32
Everywhere he goes, there he is. Okay. Now,
1:09:35
Adam Curry: now the John, we have to remember this one.
1:09:38
Everywhere he goes. There he is. So what do you think maybe the
1:09:43
lady writing Kamala scripts?
1:09:46
John C Dvorak: Only everywhere he
1:09:47
Adam Curry: goes, there he is.
1:09:49
Unknown: Oh, come up this. Everywhere he goes, there he is.
1:09:53
Okay. Donald Trump is going to Donald Trump everywhere he goes.
1:09:56
He's going to be Donald Trump. He has always been John It's
1:10:00
disrespectful and have such disdain for the media, first of
1:10:06
all, for black people in general and certainly for black women
1:10:10
who are members of the media, you can just roll the tapes back
1:10:13
and see how he's treated. Everybody pretty much he was
1:10:17
black in his in his press room, but specifically someone who was
1:10:20
a friend of CNN April Ryan, the nasty things that he has come
1:10:23
out and said about her. So I wasn't surprised at all that
1:10:27
Donald Trump sat there and was so frustrated and just evil to
1:10:32
the people who were questioning him and expecting him to answer
1:10:35
and account for himself because that is something that he
1:10:38
doesn't do well. He has such vitriol and and a horrible
1:10:42
recoiling at anyone who ever questioned his judgment, who
1:10:46
asked him to explain himself who asked him to back up with facts,
1:10:50
his positions, his attitude, his beliefs, and certainly when it's
1:10:54
coming from black women, he doesn't have any patience or
1:10:56
tolerance for it, and that's what we saw on display.
1:10:59
Adam Curry: So here I'm gonna show you these last two this is
1:11:01
Nora O'Donnell. This is CBS This is about him questioning. Kamala
1:11:05
Harris is code switch, which she did. Everyone sees it, her code
1:11:11
switch into a black woman.
1:11:13
Unknown: You just heard it. Former President Trump says vice
1:11:16
president Kamala Harris happened to turn black a few years ago,
1:11:20
questioning the racial identity as he takes questions from the
1:11:23
National Association of Black Journalists. Good evening, I'm
1:11:26
Nora O'Donnell and thank you for being with us. We start tonight
1:11:29
with a fact check. The Vice President's heritage is both
1:11:32
Indian and Jamaican, but that didn't stop the Republican
1:11:35
presidential nominee from accusing her of downplaying
1:11:38
parts of her identity during the combative interview in front of
1:11:41
a jeering crowd. Remember, Donald Trump rose to political
1:11:45
prominence in part by falsely claiming that former President
1:11:48
Barack Obama was not born in America. CBS Nicole Killian was
1:11:52
in the room in Chicago.
1:11:55
Adam Curry: So of course, we we all know that the only time
1:12:00
you're black is when you vote for Democrats, because Joe Biden
1:12:03
said it said it's Charlemagne to God. But here's the full report.
1:12:09
Unknown: There was no applause as former President Trump walked
1:12:12
out on stage. Instead, it was a mix of boos and some outburst.
1:12:19
One question in the former president quickly pin one of the
1:12:23
moderators who asked about some of his past comments,
1:12:26
why doesn't he show his birth certificate since you're racist?
1:12:30
There's
1:12:30
some denigrating people of color and black journalists.
1:12:33
I think it was just crazy. I
1:12:34
Adam Curry: know. I don't even think they did even say that in
1:12:37
the interview.
1:12:38
John C Dvorak: Remember that but it's just chopping it up. Yeah,
1:12:41
well, that's
1:12:41
Unknown: what you do to racist. There are some
1:12:43
denigrating people of color and black journalists.
1:12:46
I think it's disgraceful that I came here in good spirit. I love
1:12:52
the black population of this country. I think it's a very
1:12:55
rude introduction.
1:12:57
Trump was then asked about presumptive Democratic nominee
1:13:00
Kamala Harris.
1:13:01
Do you believe that Vice President Kamala Harris is only
1:13:04
on the ticket because she is a black woman? Well, I
1:13:06
can say no, I think it's maybe a little bit different. She was
1:13:09
always of Indian heritage. And she was only promoting Indian
1:13:14
heritage. I didn't know she was black until a number of years
1:13:17
ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be
1:13:20
known as Black. Indian, or is she black? And she was Indian
1:13:24
all the way. And then all of a sudden she made a turn and she
1:13:27
went, she became a black.
1:13:29
Just to be clear, sir.
1:13:30
Do you think I think somebody should look into that too, when
1:13:33
you ask a continue in a very hostile nasty tone.
1:13:36
Trump's remarks sparked backlash from Harris, who was the
1:13:40
daughter of Jamaican and Indian immigrants went through in
1:13:43
historically black college and is a member of a black sorority.
1:13:46
Her campaign called it the same hostility he has shown
1:13:49
throughout his life. The White House called it insulting what
1:13:53
he just said, what you just read out to me
1:13:55
is repulsive.
1:13:58
Adam Curry: By the way, even though I went to college for
1:14:00
three months, I actually plaque pledge with the with the campus,
1:14:03
I carried a brick around, I guess, I guess I can say I'm
1:14:06
black now.
1:14:08
John C Dvorak: You might as well. Couple of things. One,
1:14:11
where's Kamala Harris's dad?
1:14:14
Adam Curry: No, he's in Jamaica. We got to keep them out of the
1:14:16
picture because of you know, the slave ownership and all that of
1:14:18
his family as we got to keep that quiet.
1:14:20
John C Dvorak: He's also rebuked her. Yes, he has in a book.
1:14:25
Well, he's rebuked Yes. And he rebuked her more recently when
1:14:28
she when she made some joke about smoking dope. Yeah. And
1:14:32
then and claimed it had to do with their Jamaican heritage. He
1:14:35
thought that that was an insult to stereotype. Yes, he went on
1:14:39
and on about it. He has not seen her talk to her. They the family
1:14:44
broke up when she was three. So she was raised in Indian. Raised
1:14:51
in Canada. This is a this is a hoax. This entire presidential
1:14:56
campaign by Kamla. Harris is is basically a hoax on the American
1:15:01
public. Well remember, they're sucking it up because the media
1:15:04
has switched from Oh, she's no good to us. She's the best ever.
1:15:08
And, of course, this
1:15:11
Adam Curry: offers opportunities for potential vice presidential
1:15:15
candidates to step up to the plate. Here's Mark Kelly.
1:15:19
Unknown: Joining me now is the Democratic senator from Arizona
1:15:22
and potential vice presidential pick for vice president Harris.
1:15:24
Mark Kelly, it's great to have you here as Senator, I know, you
1:15:27
have had a very busy day. But I just I do want to know your
1:15:30
reaction when you heard what Donald Trump said on stage and
1:15:34
Chicago today questioning vice president Harris's heritage?
1:15:41
Well, Kailyn My first reaction was, you know, this is the
1:15:45
reaction of a desperate and scared old man. It's very
1:15:51
obvious to me watching him and just what I've seen over the
1:15:53
last week while she's been across the country, just kicking
1:15:57
his butt, that he's afraid that he's probably afraid to debate
1:16:02
or he's certainly afraid to lose an election to her in November,
1:16:06
and he's afraid about his own future. So I'm not surprised to
1:16:09
see it. And I understand the you know, what he's up against, I
1:16:15
mean, he's up against an experienced prosecutor, somebody
1:16:18
who served as the DEA and an attorney general in the Senate
1:16:22
and now the vice president very successfully. You put Kamala
1:16:26
Harris's record up to Donald Trump, but there's no comparison
1:16:29
and the contrast is just is can't be more significant. Now.
1:16:36
Adam Curry: I think. If you're now she's going to do a speech
1:16:40
in Pennsylvania on Tuesday, supposedly, she'll have her vice
1:16:43
presidential pick, they're on stage. I think Mark Kelly still
1:16:47
in the running although I still like most idea of Westmore to
1:16:51
make an all black ticket just to go all in on the racism. I'm
1:16:57
gonna do a short clip. I'm pretty sure it's neither going
1:17:01
to be Shapiro or Whitmer. And the reason I say that is because
1:17:05
they were both on the campaign trail together.
1:17:09
Unknown: Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and
1:17:10
Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro were in Ambler yesterday
1:17:13
rally a crowd of more than 1000 people at a Harris or President
1:17:17
event it was taken High School Shapiro telling the crowd
1:17:20
they've seen how close these elections can be, with 55,000
1:17:23
votes between Pennsylvania Michigan back in 2016. New
1:17:26
polling from Fox News shows Trump and Harris essentially
1:17:28
tied among registered voters in Pennsylvania. The voting process
1:17:32
to officially name Harris the nominee is expected to start
1:17:34
this week as electronic ballots will be sent to delegates.
1:17:37
Harris's search for vice president is ongoing. The list
1:17:40
of potential candidates getting more narrow with Shapiro in
1:17:43
Arizona Senator Mark Kelly said to be among the front runners.
1:17:46
We now know North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper has opted
1:17:49
not to be a candidate for Harris's running mate. Shapiro
1:17:52
has vowed to do whatever he can to help get Harris elected.
1:17:55
Kamala Harris knows real freedom means worshiping where you want,
1:18:00
living how you want, and experiencing the bountiful of
1:18:04
freedom all across this nation in rural urban and suburban
1:18:08
communities. That is real freedom and that is what we are
1:18:12
fighting for. I don't think he's gonna be it. Well, if he's
1:18:18
John C Dvorak: should be the front runner. I have some
1:18:20
different thoughts on this. But before we continue, I'd like to
1:18:23
play the Judge Joe Brown clip to get another perspective
1:18:31
afterwards,
1:18:32
Adam Curry: who is Judge Joe Brown. Brown is
1:18:35
John C Dvorak: a famous he used to be a prosecutor used to be in
1:18:39
LA. He is a he's a TV judge, but he's not he's a was an actual
1:18:45
judge. And he's a personality. He's an old guy. He's like 77
1:18:51
and he's been saying he's been blasted for this particular this
1:18:55
and some other things he's been saying he's been going around
1:18:57
podcast because he really does not like Kamla Harris and he's
1:19:01
run into her. And a lot of people
1:19:04
Adam Curry: don't like her I mean, even interns are coming
1:19:07
out and doing interviews saying that oh, we couldn't look at her
1:19:11
when she came in in the morning and we've had to say good
1:19:13
morning general
1:19:16
John C Dvorak: Wow, that doesn't actually doesn't surprise me
1:19:19
right. Yeah. I have some thoughts on the vice presidency
1:19:22
app but let's play and I would not say for work clip I think
1:19:27
maybe the you should cover your children's ears. At least for
1:19:31
the beginning and let's listen to this was the podcast that I
1:19:34
just want to tell you which one it was versus on a
1:19:37
Adam Curry: podcast that's where all the good stuff is. That's
1:19:39
where the meat and potatoes are baby. This
1:19:41
John C Dvorak: was on I can get my head here open. It was one of
1:19:45
the it was the art of dialogue podcast. And he got blasted Vibe
1:19:54
magazine for this adventure. This is only part of what he
1:19:57
said I like to get the whole podcast and get some more clips
1:20:00
from it, but here we go. But I
1:20:02
Unknown: gotta ask you about Kamala Harris how you feel about
1:20:04
her. She's a piece a shit, because in California, she
1:20:09
lacked professional competence. And she worked on it by hiking
1:20:13
up her hem line when she needed phones rather than researching,
1:20:17
she's always tried to do the casting couch to get where she
1:20:22
wants. Now the problem is, is that we'll get somebody to a
1:20:26
certain level quickly, which can't get past that level of you
1:20:31
know, have competence and talent. So my thing about it is,
1:20:36
is if I'm crude about it, in this city years ago, I used to
1:20:40
represent a whole bunch of pimps and hoes and I know a whole when
1:20:44
I see one, and I say this, I don't care woman you do what you
1:20:49
want to do if you want to have recreational sex, but when you
1:20:52
do the casting couch or anything else for professional purposes
1:20:57
to get paid or advance you Oh, and she's old hoe and the
1:21:02
problem is is what is she supposed to do? Somebody want to
1:21:06
hurt cinco five slaves comes up on unwraps her in a carpet naked
1:21:11
Putin feet? And he says, oh, yeah, do you CZ said know how I
1:21:16
got better stuff here already. Plus, I don't watch any way you
1:21:19
oh, woman yet? Oh, no. You know, z's in being is he's supposed to
1:21:26
be impressed. She's doing word salad. Well, we're here today.
1:21:30
Adam Curry: Yeah, we need to have that whole podcast. Yeah,
1:21:34
there's a lot of people who feel that way about Vice President
1:21:37
Harris. A few more things just before we take a break,
1:21:43
something that you know, Trump did say in that National
1:21:48
Association of Black Journalists. He said, our whole
1:21:51
campaign was geared towards Biden. So now we have to switch.
1:21:55
I'm surprised by that. I'm surprised by him saying it. I'm
1:21:58
surprised that they didn't see that coming. And it seems like
1:22:02
they were taken a little bit aback that they had to pivot.
1:22:06
And they had a whole strategy lined up against poor old Joe.
1:22:11
To, you know, to hammer him down. Did you Did you hear that
1:22:16
part where you said that? Oh, yeah,
1:22:18
John C Dvorak: I heard that. And he did. And I guess he was
1:22:21
sincere.
1:22:23
Adam Curry: I'd take him at his word. Yeah. Yeah. So now they
1:22:26
are doing what they can. And this is a I guess it's either
1:22:31
super PAC or someone did A a hit piece ad on Kamala, I don't
1:22:37
think it's I don't know if it airs on television, because it's
1:22:40
more than a minute. But here it is. And it's it's well done. But
1:22:46
I don't know if it's gonna, if it's going to, you know if it's
1:22:49
going to come to the level of the race card,
1:22:52
Unknown: a warning to America 25 ways the US has been destroyed
1:22:56
in under two minutes. One, open borders and illegal immigration
1:23:02
to rampant crime and unsafe cities, three mass addiction and
1:23:06
fentanyl for election insecurity and interference. Five, the
1:23:12
educational indoctrination of children, six, the asymmetrical
1:23:16
weaponization of justice. Seven, the destruction of private
1:23:20
property rights, eight, inflation and debt, nine, the
1:23:25
global depopulation agenda 10 record low fertility and
1:23:30
plummeting birth rates 11 unaccountable federal
1:23:33
bureaucracies 12 toxic food supply 13 vaccine and Pandemic
1:23:39
disinformation 14 The Trans contagion and sterilization of
1:23:44
children 15 over prescription of pharmaceuticals 16 destruction
1:23:51
of the nuclear family and parental rights 17 dei and the
1:23:55
new racism 18 moral and societal decay 19 the financing of
1:24:01
endless foreign wars 20 The sprawling surveillance state 21
1:24:06
the centralization and consolidation of government
1:24:09
power 22 The destruction of trust in institutions 23 the
1:24:15
censorship industrial complex and 24 state media propaganda 25
1:24:21
The smearing of those who challenges
1:24:24
Adam Curry: and they had good images to go with it
1:24:26
John C Dvorak: the Mission Log 2050 National one
1:24:29
Adam Curry: they had good images to go with
1:24:31
John C Dvorak: it. So I think that no that kind of thing
1:24:34
doesn't work no
1:24:35
Adam Curry: it's it's a vibe thing is trying to get you know
1:24:37
the scary music and everything. So the vice president Harris did
1:24:43
a rally in in Atlanta at the college there and she had the
1:24:49
auditorium full I
1:24:52
John C Dvorak: saw this this was I would
1:24:55
Adam Curry: say most of the people there came because Megan
1:24:58
the stallion not just showed up but she performed Megan the
1:25:02
stallion is big news. I caught a I caught a a tick talker a tick
1:25:11
tock who had something to say about this
1:25:13
Unknown: talk tick tock
1:25:16
Adam Curry: which is I'll call her boots on the ground.
1:25:19
Unknown: Okay just in case you did not know it on yesterday
1:25:22
Kamala Kamala Harris had a rally in Atlanta and it gave you like,
1:25:28
oh hyped for her like people are so excited for her. I know you
1:25:32
felt it I know you thought She even brought out ratchet Megan,
1:25:36
the stallion shaking her butt working for political rally
1:25:41
talking about how these four hairs that did not say you're
1:25:43
somebody like that is pandering, like if you've ever heard it,
1:25:47
but but that's not the Ketchum. Do not let them rally looking
1:25:52
for for you. Because Bolton County has been doing this for
1:25:56
years. Before the rallies, they get bus loads, and they go pick
1:26:00
up the homeless people. They offered them food drink and a
1:26:04
little change to come to the rally. So the rallies will look
1:26:08
forward. Now you got to realize she just dealt with the rally.
1:26:11
And I want to say what's Pennsylvania where he was less
1:26:13
than 60 people? It was quite embarrassing for her. And so
1:26:17
that's not going to go down and it's blackity Black 50. Okay,
1:26:21
it's just not going to go down. They are absolutely going to
1:26:24
make sure that they look packed out.
1:26:27
Adam Curry: I believe that. Yeah. And she says that as the
1:26:30
whole clip as long as you said, Oh, that's what they always do
1:26:33
in Atlanta. They always round up the homeless people just like
1:26:35
Governor Pritzker Pritzker and Mayor Johnson are now moving
1:26:39
illegals out of downtown Chicago to the south side. So you won't
1:26:43
see it during the convention. That makes sense.
1:26:45
John C Dvorak: We did that in San Francisco was when she came
1:26:47
Yes. Yes. So she came to see
1:26:50
Adam Curry: someone. We still have the Biden issue. We have
1:26:54
Daddy Long Legs walking around. Well,
1:26:56
John C Dvorak: before you can go into that, since you brought up
1:26:59
this this ad with the 25 things. I believe that the best ad you
1:27:05
can play to slam Camela Kamala Kamal on whatever Mojave
1:27:12
pronounce racist, you're gonna have to look this up. You're
1:27:15
going to put the engine in because it's not on this clip
1:27:18
list. But it's the Tulsi to thought to the Tulsi 2020
1:27:23
debate, our E Harish clip I want
1:27:25
Unknown: to bring the conversation back to the broken
1:27:27
criminal justice system that is disproportionately negatively
1:27:31
impacting black and brown people all across this country today of
1:27:35
Senator Harris says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor
1:27:39
and that she'll be a prosecutor president, but I'm deeply
1:27:41
concerned about this record. There are too many examples to
1:27:44
cite. But she put over 1500 people in jail for marijuana
1:27:48
violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if
1:27:50
she ever smoked marijuana. She blocked evidence. She blocked
1:27:55
evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row
1:28:00
until the courts forced her to do so she kept people in prison
1:28:03
beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the
1:28:06
state of California. And she fought to keep cash bail system
1:28:10
in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way.
1:28:15
Thank you, Congresswoman.
1:28:18
Yeah,
1:28:19
Adam Curry: well, we'll see the debate you
1:28:21
John C Dvorak: will see, you'll never hear that. Republicans are
1:28:25
no more competent to
1:28:26
Adam Curry: now. Now they're not No I mean, I'm what's happening
1:28:29
here is it's obvious we just have to make it look like she's
1:28:32
viable. So then when they cheat, then if they can cheat better
1:28:37
than the Republicans are going to cheat. I'm sorry. The
1:28:40
Christian nationalists with their
1:28:43
John C Dvorak: Zeke lobbying ways
1:28:45
Adam Curry: they're Ziggler. Secret zyk Law Group.
1:28:48
John C Dvorak: You know, the senators go to church. Yeah.
1:28:51
Adam Curry: Let me let me finish my
1:28:52
John C Dvorak: Well, my boy, I also want to get in my little
1:28:55
comment about the vice president pick. Okay, before it happened.
1:28:59
That's important
1:29:00
Adam Curry: because it leads into this Yes.
1:29:03
John C Dvorak: It's possible because you did more you read
1:29:06
about this Judge Joe Brown and his experiences and what he
1:29:10
thinks of, of Camela and other people that I've heard he
1:29:13
Adam Curry: may get elevated.
1:29:16
John C Dvorak: The other people I've heard about Kamala being
1:29:18
basically lazy. That's why she pulled
1:29:20
Adam Curry: up her skirt. Racist racist.
1:29:24
John C Dvorak: She's basically lazy as a just as a because she
1:29:28
was if you look at Kamala when she was in college earlier, she
1:29:31
was beautiful when she's 60 now but when she was 20 different
1:29:37
different look. And there is a tendency for pretty girls to not
1:29:43
you know, just coast and it's possible that this is already
1:29:48
too much work for her going in giving the speech interesting
1:29:52
sake. I
1:29:53
Adam Curry: like it. I like it.
1:29:54
John C Dvorak: She's got this is getting too hard. Isn't she
1:29:57
can't use her looks anymore because she's you know She's had
1:30:00
a facelift. We noticed that a couple years ago, she's to try
1:30:03
and make herself look, she's not 60 looking, but she's 60 She
1:30:09
might sabotage your own campaign and that would be putting in the
1:30:12
black guy that that mo thinks could be worse election. That
1:30:18
would be a sabotage picks, you'd be sabotaging yourself, or
1:30:21
putting in Pete budaj Edge, which would be sabotaging
1:30:24
herself. She might sabotage the campaign herself, because she
1:30:30
really doesn't want this job. Well,
1:30:33
Adam Curry: that's I like that's very interesting. And it kind of
1:30:36
flows into what do we do with Joe? Daddy Long Legs walking
1:30:41
around is undeniable. There is a guy who from time to time that
1:30:45
is posing as Joe Biden, he is noticeably taller. We don't know
1:30:50
why it's so obvious that either it's meant to come out. Or as we
1:30:56
know, they were in a real bind. And the normal guys on vacation,
1:31:00
they couldn't get him back in time. The CrowdStrike flights
1:31:03
made a problem. He missed his flight misses connection. Yeah.
1:31:07
He couldn't come out strikes the problem. CrowdStrike Yeah, yeah.
1:31:12
Some of you didn't said, Hey, maybe it's Obama with the mask
1:31:15
going now? I don't think so. It's funny. It's funny. But
1:31:19
Daddy Long Legs is walking around. What are we going to do
1:31:22
with Joe? Now, if if Kamala is going to sabotage, let's say
1:31:26
maybe someone wants to help her and sabotage or the worst thing
1:31:30
that could happen, the worst thing would be that President
1:31:34
Biden would die or have a stroke or something, because then and
1:31:39
if it would have would have to happen pretty quick. Maybe I'm
1:31:42
sure President Biden is going to show up at the convention. It
1:31:46
could happen there. Because then she would have to assume the
1:31:51
office of the president. That would probably limit some of her
1:31:56
campaigning capabilities. But no matter what, she will be blamed
1:32:00
for everything, particularly the ramp up in the Middle East right
1:32:03
now, which I don't think is a coincidence that Netanyahu was
1:32:07
just with Trump and Trump's like, you know, once you ramped
1:32:10
it up a bit, so I can look like a hero for the October surprise
1:32:13
when I negotiate a peace deal. I'm just shooting from the hip
1:32:17
here. But someone recommended Tina and I watch a movie from
1:32:22
1993. I have a short clip of the trailer. And I will explain how
1:32:27
this could possibly play out as a an example of life imitating
1:32:32
art.
1:32:33
Unknown: The chief is the one we all say, Hey,
1:32:37
Dave COVID was an ordinary guy.
1:32:40
Your government needs your help. We just happen to look like the
1:32:44
president. You're a very handsome man. Famous president.
1:32:49
Just get rid of a grin. You look like a schmuck. Something
1:32:52
has happened to the President.
1:32:54
What about the vice president?
1:32:55
The Vice President is mentally unbalanced.
1:32:58
Legal. Probably. Suddenly, Dave
1:33:04
has a great job.
1:33:05
I can't tell you the whole story of a national emergency kind of.
1:33:09
You gotta help me cut them. So
1:33:10
Adam Curry: that's the movie Dave, starring Kevin Kline and
1:33:13
Sigourney Weaver. And even though it's not at all the same
1:33:17
scenario, what happens? The plot of this is the the actual
1:33:23
president has a stroke. And he's, he's a vegetable, he's not
1:33:27
going to recover evil forces who are actually running things
1:33:31
within the White House, kind of like the chief of staff guy. He
1:33:34
doesn't want to concede or cede his power within the whole
1:33:38
system and in the world. So they bring in Kevin Kline, who is a
1:33:43
lookalike, and he then plays the president, he goes on to do good
1:33:46
things. But the trick they play is once the the President is a
1:33:53
David this case, but the original president is accused of
1:33:58
campaign finance, corruption and all kinds of shenanigans going
1:34:02
on. He does a State of the Union. And he then fakes a
1:34:08
stroke, they throw him in the ambulance, they do a switcheroo.
1:34:11
And then they take out the almost dead president, and then
1:34:15
he dies four months later, this could be an awesome opportunity
1:34:20
to bring out Daddy Long Legs, fake a stroke, and then bring
1:34:24
out the body and then make Kamala president because they
1:34:28
got to get rid of Joe somehow they have to deal with the fact
1:34:31
that he's incapacitated or dead or, or whatever.
1:34:36
John C Dvorak: Well, I want to see what happens on the first
1:34:37
day of the convention, which is coming up pretty soon, because
1:34:41
that's when he's supposed to give his speech. First
1:34:44
Adam Curry: day, yep, first day. Well, wouldn't be nuts if that
1:34:49
happened.
1:34:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it would be nuts. Hey, I don't see it as
1:34:55
dirt
1:34:55
Adam Curry: pasture. COVID I'll believe anything and everything
1:34:59
can happen in this world. Hold on with that. I'd like to thank
1:35:01
you for your courage say in the morning to you the man who put
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the sea and crackers for Camela say hello to my friend on the
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other end the one the only Mr. John
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John C Dvorak: cranial morning the ships at the sea and a boots
1:35:17
on the ground the feet near subs in the water the names of the
1:35:19
nights out there in
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Adam Curry: the morning to the trolls and the troll room head
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on. That's not bad. We're a buck 36 in and we've got 2038 trolls
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on the troll room. That's only that's almost equal to the last
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to a live podcast on Apple. How hard can it be?
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Adam Curry: Because they're Apple they have oh, I'm sorry.
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Void zero. Mark just says the troll room has been there for 17
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years. He says actually even longer we started it when you
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did one of your last daily source codes. That's how long
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it's been around. No, no. They, they had they smoke their own
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dope over there. And they're good people that work there. But
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it's a cost center for them. It will make any money on Apple
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John C Dvorak: They just it's just a loss leader. Be a
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Adam Curry: loss leader call away you want em they still
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dominating, they still dominate. But if you look, if you look at
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this show, we have about 45% of people listening on modern
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hour or two hours or sometimes eight hours for some reason.
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What Yes, it's another podcasting. 2.0 invention. Sir,
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Sir Brian of London actually started off it's called pod
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ping, we have a hard Candidate B, and apples welcome to
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participate. By the way, they're more than welcome. All these
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protocols are open and freely available. They could do it at
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any time. So
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John C Dvorak: it doesn't cost them anything to upgrade to a
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system that works better.
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Adam Curry: In fact, it will cost them much less because they
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now have to pull every single one of the millions of podcasts
1:38:20
they have in their index to see, you know, is there a new
1:38:23
upgrade?
1:38:23
John C Dvorak: Is there an update, they can save money, a
1:38:27
lot of money. And it's free.
1:38:31
Adam Curry: Free for anybody to use? Yes,
1:38:34
John C Dvorak: it makes no sense. All of the big names that
1:38:35
you're saying makes no sense. There must be something else
1:38:37
going on.
1:38:38
Adam Curry: But let me just explain how it works. So the way
1:38:42
it used to work and it was okay, when there were a couple 1000
1:38:44
podcasts, you know, you just your your podcast app, and now
1:38:48
it's Apple does it through their servers through their index goes
1:38:52
to every single one of the podcast feeds and says, Do you
1:38:55
have any? Do you have a new episode? Do you have new
1:38:56
episodes? And I do it every 15 minutes? Some do it more
1:38:59
frequently? And it's no okay, no, no. And so in some cases,
1:39:04
they actually bringing in the entire feed can be a megabyte
1:39:07
can be a couple megabytes worth of data. So it's an incredible
1:39:10
waste of resources with POD ping. When you upload to your
1:39:15
hosts like Buzzsprout or blueberry or rss.com. I mean all
1:39:21
of these guys, they then hit the pod ping system, which you can
1:39:25
just sit there and say, oh, oh, there's a new episode from no
1:39:28
agenda. And then you just go in you and you update
1:39:30
John C Dvorak: your database. What if they missed the ping?
1:39:33
Oh, it's
1:39:34
Adam Curry: retrofits you can you can always go back and say,
1:39:37
give me the last 15 minutes of pings or the last three days of
1:39:41
pings. So there's no missing at the pings or it's Believe it or
1:39:44
not, it's a blockchain. So the pings from day one are there.
1:39:48
Yeah. Blockchain it is mole. It's an actual use of
1:39:52
blockchain. I know. So, this is the modern way of doing it. This
1:39:57
is this is why we are winning it In the media war,
1:40:01
John C Dvorak: yeah, we're winning everything but
1:40:02
donations.
1:40:03
Adam Curry: So we'd like to thank people who support us with
1:40:06
value for value. This is no, there's no $30 million for us.
1:40:10
But of course we don't have to lie for it. We can go to bed and
1:40:13
think I'm a popper, but I'm happy about it. That's the way I
1:40:17
see it. You may have different viewpoints but we put value into
1:40:22
the show I think we do pretty good. We do a consistently I've
1:40:26
been doing it for I'll it'll be 17 years in October.
1:40:29
John C Dvorak: And we well actually we do pretty well.
1:40:32
Adam Curry: Yeah, but I want to speak good or English than you.
1:40:36
And so we don't ask for anything in return. Other than if you got
1:40:41
any kind of value out of the show anything at all, even if
1:40:44
you just laugh. In fact, primarily if you laugh, hit us
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up with some value back, you can do it with time, talent or
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treasure. And one of the obvious ways that people provide us with
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with time and talent is our artists. They are busy during
1:40:59
every single live show, trying to come up with great ideas for
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for artwork, because we believe that that is what we know that
1:41:07
that is an excellent way to market the show because someone
1:41:10
sees it coming through in their timeline. It's a laugh, like,
1:41:12
what are these guys doing? It's a reminder that we're funny that
1:41:16
we're a comedy show, but we also deconstruct media. And we want
1:41:21
to thank the artists from Episode 1681. We titled it daddy
1:41:25
long legs and the exception to the rule but we had a piece of
1:41:30
art that pertained to the title. And this was for Matthew drop
1:41:34
code 1972. And he had Kamala Joe, Joe one and Joe two right
1:41:39
there with the height differences in a lineup. It was
1:41:41
an AI piece. We thought it was the best. And
1:41:47
John C Dvorak: it was a lot it was before you say we thought it
1:41:49
was the best. There was a lot of really good and usable pieces.
1:41:54
Lots.
1:41:55
Adam Curry: So right off the bat, we're gonna say we're not
1:41:57
going to put the Olympic rings up there because that is I mean,
1:42:00
they're, they're taking down videos, they're causing all
1:42:03
kinds of problems for people putting up anything Olympics.
1:42:06
Yep.
1:42:07
John C Dvorak: So we can't do it. Can I do it? The Olympic
1:42:10
Peninsula in New Washington when they had the Winter Olympics,
1:42:13
they were they were sued. Olympia, Washington was sued by
1:42:18
these guys, these guys are nuts. So you can't use the rings, you
1:42:22
will get sued and we don't need that kind of aggravation. So
1:42:26
that's, that's out. Now
1:42:28
Adam Curry: looking at the rice President of the United States
1:42:31
out of context of which it was said was a little even too
1:42:35
racist for us. So that's why we didn't use any of the rice and
1:42:40
because no one you have to hear the show to understand what it's
1:42:42
about. There were a number of tall Biden gags let me see
1:42:49
Darren O'Neal had Biden on stilts we had what is this? Dame
1:42:55
Kenny Ben had, like, like a mugshot wall with the two
1:43:01
Biden's Scarah.
1:43:03
John C Dvorak: Manga had a good one too.
1:43:04
Adam Curry: What did he have wanted? He
1:43:06
John C Dvorak: had a really super tall, long laid kick. Yes.
1:43:10
Adam Curry: Yeah, he did have Yeah, I had that one. There was
1:43:13
a lot of wood. There were a lot of weird fingers. That didn't
1:43:18
work at all.
1:43:20
John C Dvorak: There was Trump that arc de Trump arc
1:43:23
Adam Curry: to Trump, which was good, but again, out of context.
1:43:25
You just don't get it. Yeah, it was like going to be that was
1:43:28
Darren, that was a good AI prompt job.
1:43:32
John C Dvorak: I don't know how he did that with some believe. I
1:43:34
bet it was just got it down. I told him he should go into
1:43:38
business. Yes.
1:43:39
Adam Curry: Ai images. Which, you know, there's a new report
1:43:45
out that shows that it's not that it's not going to work,
1:43:51
that you can do images. I mean, there's it's a, it's a very
1:43:56
detailed report. But in general, the the, the conclusion is AI is
1:44:02
not going to get any better. It's only going to get worse.
1:44:06
It's bigger models, more models on top of each other. It's just
1:44:10
it's not working. All we're going to have is some
1:44:13
interesting image generators, and some chat bots. That's all
1:44:17
that's being we got a chat bot. Here's another chat. I think
1:44:20
John C Dvorak: that's where it that's where it's limited. In
1:44:23
what, that's where it's going to end right there. Yes, generators
1:44:27
that are that are based on old stuff because you can't put
1:44:30
those images back into the system because they grow hairs.
1:44:33
Yes, they
1:44:33
Adam Curry: do. Grow hairs is the right term to and
1:44:37
John C Dvorak: you can't do the same with the with the
1:44:39
information. It has to all be frozen in time and then you have
1:44:43
to update with modern news
1:44:45
Adam Curry: and all it is just chatbots it's just chatbots
1:44:47
that's it. We got to chat,
1:44:49
John C Dvorak: and they stink and the thing that you said
1:44:51
about that 950 page report. It's just a bunch of you know, yeah,
1:44:57
can be exactly
1:44:58
Adam Curry: just as much a yak yak yak yak yak. So thank you
1:45:02
very much, Matthew drop co 1972. Good job. Thank you to all of
1:45:06
the artists all of them, including Matthew drop Co. are
1:45:09
Dutch masters.
1:45:11
John C Dvorak: I did use sir shoe bugs rice, President of the
1:45:14
United States, yes. For the newsletter, but
1:45:18
Adam Curry: in the newsletter is within context of people who
1:45:20
listen to the show. So I think that makes total sense. By the
1:45:23
way, what I did not see maybe I missed it. Did you put in the
1:45:26
link to the PDF for the city's wealth book? So
1:45:29
John C Dvorak: I got called out I forgot to do that. And I
1:45:31
surprised that when I sent the thing in for approval that
1:45:35
didn't get oh,
1:45:37
Adam Curry: sorry. Do you know that when you when you send me
1:45:40
the thing for approval, all those images and all that other
1:45:44
stuff you put in there is never in it? No, I
1:45:47
John C Dvorak: know. Okay, so
1:45:49
Adam Curry: how could I have known? Well, I would have been
1:45:52
John C Dvorak: I was going to do it as a section, but it's going
1:45:55
in the next newsletter The next because I got we got it down. We
1:45:59
got two different sources for this called this cities of
1:46:02
wealth. I had the I had the title five cooked by guest my
1:46:06
memory going back 45 years was
1:46:08
Adam Curry: it's actually the city's wealth. The
1:46:12
John C Dvorak: city's wealth. Yes. And it has to do with the
1:46:15
Berkeley in particular. And it's fascinating you looked at I'm
1:46:19
sure that it's not and
1:46:20
Adam Curry: I put it in the show notes under Kamala. So you can
1:46:24
find her Kamala Yes. By the way, I forgot to mention Happy
1:46:27
Birthday MTV. MTV started on this day, August 1 1981.
1:46:35
John C Dvorak: Were you there that day? No.
1:46:37
Adam Curry: Well, it's so funny. You know, the first VJ was
1:46:40
supposed to be Mark Goodman. But even on the first day, and this
1:46:45
is so typical for MTV, they they not built Hodson, now they
1:46:49
screwed up the tapes, and Alan Hunter was the the first because
1:46:52
they pre recorded everything. So typical for MTV to screw up the
1:46:56
tapes on their on their on their first transmission. But there it
1:47:00
is,
1:47:01
John C Dvorak: it's a little bit of history. Nobody knows. Yeah,
1:47:03
there
1:47:03
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We do like to thank our executive and Associate
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's why fear checks are better because
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they are definitely better. 15 cents as opposed to 20 bucks. He
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John C Dvorak: now we have Jean amorphous in Bellingham
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Massachusetts nuts 333 33. And he sent not a note. You should
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look this look at this. But a memo. An official memo, a
1:49:01
Adam Curry: memo or we did send a memo Yes I see.
1:49:03
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's and it's then it's pretty much
1:49:05
structured like a memo. Should we I had this little aside when
1:49:09
I was waiting for the airplane.
1:49:10
Adam Curry: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
1:49:12
wait, wait, wait. There's some if you're going to talk about
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your past. JC
1:49:21
Unknown: JC
1:49:25
Adam Curry: JCD storytime everybody.
1:49:27
John C Dvorak: This is a weird one. At least it is to anyone
1:49:30
with the right mind. I looking back on I thought it was
1:49:33
fantastic. When you're working for the government and the
1:49:37
administrative state or even when you're not, you really try
1:49:42
to take as many seminars as you can because there's somebody's
1:49:45
paying for him and you get to take a day off free. It's free.
1:49:48
It's free to you and you get to take the day off. If you want
1:49:53
you get paid for did you get it's just a money it's a way to
1:49:57
go. So I took a seminar on money memo writing.
1:50:01
Adam Curry: I've have heard this story.
1:50:05
John C Dvorak: And they did, it was a whole day of how to write
1:50:08
a memo properly. By the way, this memo I'd say is 80%. close
1:50:12
to being proper. And I can write my and I've written memos.
1:50:17
People are short on how to write them. And there's a formula
1:50:20
that's just dynamite if you use it, right. And I just thought it
1:50:23
was one of the most valuable things I've ever learned. And I
1:50:28
would say this to anybody out there, take as many of these
1:50:31
little courses and classes as one day seminars and whatever
1:50:34
you can, for whatever it's about, because you never know, I
1:50:37
thought the memo writing thing was just gonna be like a joke.
1:50:40
And in fact, I find it very useful. And I used it in fact,
1:50:44
when I was at Ziff Davis, I use it to write memos to the bosses
1:50:49
that were just like, you know, super professional looking man
1:50:52
was that had a lot of impact. They have impact anyway. So we
1:50:55
have a memo here and I read well there's
1:50:58
Adam Curry: there's a hold on there's a cc two producers HR
1:51:02
legal and sales everyone's on this memo. Yeah, it's pretty
1:51:05
interesting regarding the fall season.
1:51:07
John C Dvorak: Yes, it says to John and Adam Fromm and these
1:51:11
guys little initials there, which isn't really something
1:51:14
that a lot of memoir writers do, Gene amorphous producer and then
1:51:19
he says the comments at the bottom does that they don't need
1:51:22
that word comments there but okay. After consultation with
1:51:27
the appropriate producers, we have green lighted your fall
1:51:30
season. I am sure you are as excited about this news as we
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are. Please provide episode outlines and storyboards that
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review and approval. We hope that this year the no agenda
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show will be a leading contender for the People's Choice podcast
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award walk. Once that is done. marketing needs to have a
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meeting to present some merchandising concepts to you.
1:52:00
I'll reach out shortly to schedule Oh, and as you would
1:52:03
say there's some V four v enclosed
1:52:07
Adam Curry: now he forgotten to copy no agenda shop on this,
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which is a mixer. And you must know that all Podcast Awards
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be nominated. So no
1:52:27
John C Dvorak: 333 33 from gene that's very funny gene. Thank
1:52:31
you.
1:52:31
Adam Curry: The Highland crags are in Colorado Springs Colorado
1:52:35
$240
1:52:36
John C Dvorak: Way way we only have two executive producers for
1:52:39
this show. Yes sir. Um
1:52:40
Adam Curry: That's it. That's it.
1:52:42
John C Dvorak: Well, that blows
1:52:46
Adam Curry: There you go. Thanks. No agenda gentlemen.
1:52:50
Keep up the good work love from the Highland crags. Thank you
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very much. Highland Craig's and Associate Executive Producer for
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you.
1:52:59
John C Dvorak: Dave Petron in Washington, California. Oh, no.
1:53:05
What is the Wait a minute? No. Let's step up. West Virginia in
1:53:09
Canada. What what? What's the WV in West Virginia? No, that's
1:53:14
that's post that's the country code right there.
1:53:19
Adam Curry: Western Vancouver. No, I don't know. I
1:53:24
John C Dvorak: don't know where this guy's from. This is
1:53:27
scrambled so we have no idea where you're from Dave. Really?
1:53:31
He says hit no it comes to a 233 99 hit in the mouth March
1:53:35
2027 30. When's my 65th birthday you're on the list. left
1:53:40
California. It says West Virginia so this is some sort of
1:53:43
scrambled job. This is someplace in West Virginia. He moved to
1:53:47
West Virginia last November to be where his grandchildren are
1:53:51
okay. Amazing what you get for $400,000 which I would think as
1:53:57
we bought recently build home on two acres in the county nice
1:54:01
every probably country. Everyone is so friendly and no one has
1:54:05
said don't wreck my state. Which they do on the way they move you
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move to Washington County say that Oregon they all California
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is when you move to what a lot of states in the in the West
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sign state biological males. Thank you for all you're doing
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keeping us sane jingled. Don't enslave me Camela
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Unknown: don't enslave me. All right.
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Adam Curry: We have Anna EB EB Yes. Last name rhymes with
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listen the next morning. We're in Milwaukee but often wish we
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lived in a tougher to pronounce locale and Wisconsin or Upper
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Michigan. As we love hearing you guys do your very best to
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pronounce caca Juana and McKinney. Mackinac Island
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Michilimackinac John has 25 favorite jingles but it's hot
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thank you both for what you do
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you've got karma
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John C Dvorak: that David's up he's a new if he's up might be
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sitting in North Little Rock Arkansas. tu tu tu tu tu tu
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mentioned political figure from the Netherlands with the last
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name bring Nina
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Adam Curry: Brink she's just she's not political. She's I
1:56:14
want to be careful. She's very litigious, but she has been
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implicated in many issues in publicly listed companies.
1:56:21
John C Dvorak: Okay, not sure if that's just the common name over
1:56:25
there, but I took note because it is a Dutch national BMX
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writer named Jamie Oh, brink. Now I don't know if he's any
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relation but Jamie Oh, brink has replaced replace the Dutch
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reigning gold medalist niq key man, and this year's Olympic BMX
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does Wait a minute the Olympics have a BMX competition. Oh,
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yeah.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, I think they think they have to bike through
1:56:52
the sun.
1:56:55
John C Dvorak: And he was forced to drop out due to you guessed
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it myocarditis boy. Anyway, I'm sure all this is only
1:57:03
interesting to me. May I please have some f 16 karma for my
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upcoming national race in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada this
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weekend. Thank you. Rob McCauley, aka sir fat dad of the
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BM Mexicans. Yes.
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Adam Curry: So of course he wants F 35 karma which is
1:57:22
interesting in the random number theory because we just had that
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for John caliber. You go
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Adam Curry: and we've got Genevieve Genevieve Genevieve
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she says another row of ducks armor might to honor my smokin
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hot fiance Kyle the spook of Spokane. We plan to get married
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one month from today on September 1. That's great. Thank
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you, John and Adam for the premarital counseling on the no
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agenda show. You're welcome. We're cheap.
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John C Dvorak: She said hey, in particular, and she
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Adam Curry: says and we've never had a fight. Can't wait for a
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lifetime more no agenda date with my last best husband. Or at
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least four more years of them yet karma if one of our favorite
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places on earth. You got it? You've
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John C Dvorak: sir Mary in Tucson, Arizona. To the best
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podcast in the universe. Thank you for all you do. Please wish
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my son quarry. Sand, tea. Or sand tight Santia Santia Happy
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Birthday on the show date. August 1 Also please de douche
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John C Dvorak: donated on Father's Day but he forgot to
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ask for a D douching. He'll be 31 jingles Camella don't come
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Trump gonna come and see you know you big filthy minded
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audience. It's just so so can you see the juice makes it even
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worse but okay sir Marv of the naked potato says Marv not said
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Mary on the other day. Wait a minute now it's Oh, it's always
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been sir. maarif Sorry, sir. Sorry, sir. Mars. Marriage marry
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Adam Curry: by Lamar biological knights only please come.
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Unknown: I'm gonna come.
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Oh my gosh.
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Can you see that juice? You guys?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, now? I'm gonna go back to Sir Mary. Yeah.
1:59:30
Adam Curry: Hey, Eli, the coffee guy pops in from Bensenville
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Illinois. He says the first week of August is World breastfeeding
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Eli, the coffee guy, and I will do this note from Lynn let me
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see is this from Lynn Yeah, I
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John C Dvorak: can do that. I can do that.
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Adam Curry: I thought well then you have oh, yes, you can. I'm
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sorry. Go ahead. Do the notes from let's do the second time.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, please. Lynn. Lynn, where are you?
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Adam Curry: Yes. See, I had it all ready to go but okay. You
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please do Lynne Well,
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my f cancer donation. Lynne writes, Lynne, by the way, comes
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John C Dvorak: I'm treating myself to a producer credit to
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make the occasion like Marcy occasion.
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Unknown: Oh, yes.
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John C Dvorak: Thank you. I'd also like to credit this as a
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Bernhardt. Donation.
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Adam Curry: Yes. The Bernhard podcast. Oh,
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John C Dvorak: I never heard of
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Adam Curry: the bell. Yeah. The burner is a great She's an
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American living in Italy. She has a great podcast. No if
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you've been on it. No value for value. I don't think she has
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guests. Maybe she does. I don't know.
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John C Dvorak: My cousin Kessel junkie. Hit me in the mouth a
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couple of years ago and I've been listening ever since. Thank
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you for your courage. No karma or jingles. Viva Cristo Rey. Oh,
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Viva Cristo Rey. That's
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Adam Curry: what, by
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John C Dvorak: the way. 70 threes K 04. Or kitten I'm
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sorry. K Oh, four VNW. She says she's a ham.
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Adam Curry: All right. And she doesn't know she I thought she
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wanted an F karma. She wanted no karma or jingle. So we will we
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will honor that. And 73 kilo five alpha, Charlie, Charlie
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beaconing. Every 15 minutes I'm var AC.
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John C Dvorak: And then we have what was and that's good to
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know. Yeah. Well,
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Adam Curry: so people can pick up my beacon. And then what
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beacon back is this is a cool system. You can actually if you
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see me if you see my beacon, you can send me a message and it
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automatically receives and then you know, and then when next
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time I check out my Hamrick there'll be a message for you
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and I can respond you don't have to be both be on at the same
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time. It's kind of like, instant it's like instant messaging.
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Well, only it takes hours. Ronaldo scenario, Parts Unknown.
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And he says you both are like a fine wine that gets better with
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age. Thank you for your courage. Well, thank you. Thank you very
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Adam Curry: And then we have Don cool, he's cool down cool. Down
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count of New Hampshire. Windham, New Hampshire. PS Keep up the
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good work. Well, thank you. We shall do so.
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John C Dvorak: And last we got circumcision in Blaine,
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Washington, whereas he got a monitor here. That Wait a
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minute. He
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Adam Curry: starts by saying breaking breaking the vault
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Bistro.
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John C Dvorak: He's got a long noises breaking the vault bistro
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and wine bar announces its second to 2024 meet up Sunday,
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August 4. That's this Sunday. For our customary protocol. The
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Vault vault will offer the delightful farm to table fare
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craft cocktails and curated wine list. And he goes on and on.
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While he just
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Adam Curry: says incidentally, here's the other 50% of the Jew
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money I owed you from the last time.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, I think he Yeah, he's falling
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behind. Yeah, I can only get 50% Jew money because I'm only 50%
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Jew. Oh, okay, well, that explains. That being said
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sources telling me the dude's name Benjamin in the slot
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office. base laser office of targeting in mock deference to
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the new dei policies enacted by slot office brass are now
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referring to the slot office as the Office of the front hole. Or
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Oh f a. Firstly, I don't see the humor in it. Well, it's because
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you only half Jewish. Jewish. Exactly, exactly. And again if
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either of you or both are anywhere near good old Blaine a
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gateway to the USA please do not hesitate to deposit yourself at
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the vault bistro and he says our money will be no good so anyway
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my amygdala thanks you it goes on. And no agenda producers
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my Deck. Yes, you can see Canada Allen fenced and thank you for
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your undeniable courage. He serves circumcision of the 10%
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off night of the fourth quarter.
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Adam Curry: And I'm sure we will have a mention of that meetup,
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Unknown: formula is this. We go out with people in the mouth
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John C Dvorak: I'd like to go ahead. I'd like to start off
2:07:01
this section with an ask Adam.
2:07:03
Adam Curry: Oh, goodness, I was unprepared for an ask Adam. Yes,
2:07:07
John C Dvorak: this is because it's the Olympics is a big deal.
2:07:10
It
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Adam Curry: is it is the Olympics. Yes, it is the
2:07:12
Olympics. We don't have any
2:07:13
John C Dvorak: Olympic clips or anything because we'd get sued.
2:07:15
But we do. We have an ask Adam based on the Olympics.
2:07:20
Adam Curry: Okay, so which one do I play here?
2:07:23
John C Dvorak: You say ask Adam Olympics cue.
2:07:26
Unknown: Okay. Also, you've seen the medals athletes have been
2:07:28
winning at the Olympics all week. Well, trick question. What
2:07:33
do you think they're made of?
2:07:35
Adam Curry: Whoa, what do you think they're made of? Well, I
2:07:41
know what they represent. They they represent gold you would
2:07:47
think there was some gold in that one? They represent silver
2:07:50
which you would hope there would be some silver in there and
2:07:52
bronze but I'm gonna go with tungsten
2:07:58
John C Dvorak: that's a good one. Call back that it goes way
2:08:02
back. Yes. So let's go okay. Now this is the ask Adam answer and
2:08:07
q2 at the end of this compound as Goutam. At the end of this is
2:08:13
another question. Well,
2:08:14
Unknown: I want to say real solid gold, silver and bronze.
2:08:18
But this question you're asking is making me second guess
2:08:20
myself. Guys,
2:08:21
you should. According to International Olympic Committee
2:08:23
regulations, the Olympic gold medals must be made out of at
2:08:26
least 92.5% Silver, which comes out to 523 grams and then they
2:08:33
are plated with six grams of gold.
2:08:36
We will wait then what is the silver metal native? Good
2:08:39
question. The silver metal is 525 grams of pure silver. So I
2:08:46
bet you're wondering about the bronze metal? Yeah, it is an
2:08:48
alloy made of copper, tin and zinc.
2:08:51
Well, now you have me wondering how much each metal is worth?
2:08:54
Well, according to Oxford Economics,
2:08:56
Adam Curry: but what a gyp
2:08:59
Unknown: what a jeep.
2:09:01
Adam Curry: I remember when I was in the International School
2:09:04
of Amsterdam, and now this is when I was nine, maybe eight or
2:09:11
nine. And they had some Olympic medalists come in, and we were
2:09:15
all allowed to look at the gold medal and they say you can't
2:09:19
touch it, because it's pure gold and it could actually warp you
2:09:23
could bend it. That's what they told me. Now, of course, that
2:09:27
was in 9974. What maybe in 74, it was different.
2:09:32
John C Dvorak: Maybe I don't see how it would work though.
2:09:34
Because you touched it. Well,
2:09:36
Adam Curry: I mean, they just didn't want us with our grubby
2:09:38
John C Dvorak: Majan it up and they had to clean so they didn't
2:09:40
want Alright, so
2:09:41
Adam Curry: what is the final question? Are
2:09:43
John C Dvorak: they worth what each one of them worth? What do
2:09:44
you think?
2:09:46
Adam Curry: How many grams of silver was it?
2:09:48
John C Dvorak: 500 some?
2:09:51
Adam Curry: There, they're probably each worth about I'd
2:09:54
say about $275.
2:09:58
John C Dvorak: Play the end Oh is
2:10:00
Unknown: worth an estimated $1,027. The silver medal is
2:10:03
about $535 and the bronze. Sorry, it's about $4.60 Oh
2:10:10
man
2:10:15
answered the question go, wow,
2:10:17
Adam Curry: wow. Well, that was news that we can use at the
2:10:21
watercooler. So, yes, it's handy to know. Yeah, there's been a
2:10:28
lot of hearings in Congress about the attempted
2:10:35
assassination of President Trump. And it's really, it's
2:10:40
looking more and more like this went beyond incompetence, beyond
2:10:46
incompetence. And as much as I don't like saying it, Jesse
2:10:51
waters did a pretty good backgrounder of everything that
2:10:56
took place. So I'm going to play a couple of his clips. This
2:11:00
first one's a little longer, it's a buck and a half and the
2:11:02
rest are very short. But I think it kind of brings us up to speed
2:11:06
on some of the anomalies and atrocities and outrageousness of
2:11:11
what took place here.
2:11:12
Unknown: A secret service counter sniper is predicting
2:11:15
another assassination attempt before November. In an email
2:11:18
obtained by Real Clear Politics, a secret service agent with 20
2:11:22
years experience on the counter sniper team is announcing he's
2:11:25
going to blow the whistle until all of his supervisors are
2:11:29
fired. The counter sniper says his mission is to prevent
2:11:32
another JFK style assassination. And the only reason that hasn't
2:11:37
happened is because they've gotten lucky. He says secret
2:11:40
service leadership is corrupt. And states clearly quote, we all
2:11:44
should expect another assassination attempt to happen
2:11:47
before November. We've exposed our inability to protect our
2:11:51
leaders due to our leadership. After this email went public, it
2:11:55
was wiped off the Secret Service servers. There's a massive cover
2:11:59
up underway, and it spilled over into Congress. After Cheadle
2:12:04
resigned in disgrace, her number two got promoted and testified
2:12:08
today that the Secret Service screwed up. But the local
2:12:11
police, it was really all their fault. 30
2:12:15
seconds. If
2:12:17
it's communicated directly to a counter sniper team, would that
2:12:19
be enough time to react prior to the firing of those shots?
2:12:24
Senator, if we'd had that information, they would have
2:12:27
been able to address it more quickly it appears that that
2:12:31
information was stuck or siloed. In that state and local channels
2:12:35
were explicit instructions provided to cover the roof of
2:12:38
the AGR building and locals just not follow it or were those
2:12:42
explicit instruction is not provided. It's my understanding
2:12:44
what was communicated is that the locals had a plan and that
2:12:47
they had been there before. We are looking at this and they
2:12:51
should have been on that roof. And the fact that they were in
2:12:54
the building is something that I'm still trying to understand.
2:12:58
Adam Curry: So part of the reason that they weren't on the
2:13:00
roof as the news has been very fragmented, the things we're
2:13:05
hearing is because it was too hot, and therefore it Oh, you
2:13:09
local SWAT guys don't go out there. You don't need to do
2:13:12
that. Well, here's the local SWAT commander,
2:13:14
Unknown: the accusation that somehow we were told that to be
2:13:20
on the roofline, for instance, to and that it was too hot.
2:13:26
That's ridiculous. You know, our snipers are prepared to operate
2:13:29
in western Pennsylvania, from anywhere from 10 degrees below
2:13:33
zero to 90 degrees, they were prepared to be wherever they
2:13:37
were told by secret service that day, then,
2:13:41
Adam Curry: probably the funniest, most outrageous
2:13:46
testimony, the reason that the Secret Service could not fly
2:13:52
their drone to check around and see if anyone was I don't know,
2:13:57
walking around doing weird suspicious stuff. Well, that was
2:14:01
a very, very clear and obvious explanation. They couldn't fly
2:14:04
their drone. You had
2:14:07
Unknown: a drone system, but you had bandwidth problems. The
2:14:11
bandwidth apparently was adequate for the shooters drone,
2:14:14
but not for the Secret Service. Can you explain that?
2:14:18
I have no explanation for it. So people fly drones all the time,
2:14:21
on the peripheries of our sites. And we go out and we talk to
2:14:25
them and we ascertain what their intentions are. On this day in
2:14:29
particular, because of the connectivity challenge. As you
2:14:33
noted, there was a delay and he flew his drone at 351
2:14:38
Approximately, so
2:14:41
Adam Curry: they had bad internet. This is getting
2:14:45
funnier by the minute. And then of course, the most damning part
2:14:49
is the person who was in fact responsible. The site supervisor
2:14:55
has not been subpoenaed been called or his name or her name
2:14:59
even know own to the public who was the lead site agent who made
2:15:03
the decision to leave the AGR building completely outside of
2:15:07
the security perimeter who was the Senator,
2:15:10
Unknown: I cannot give you that name. This person is
2:15:12
operational. They're still doing investigations. They're still
2:15:14
doing protected visits and relieved of duty. Senator, they
2:15:19
have not know. Why have they not been relieved of duty, they are
2:15:23
still cooperating but not only being interviewed by the FBI,
2:15:26
but also by our Office of Professional Responsibility. I
2:15:29
Adam Curry: found it interesting that they both use the vague
2:15:32
pronoun. Is this person trans? Or is it more than one person is
2:15:39
the suit? Is there more than one site supervisor supervisor now?
2:15:42
There'd be one site supervisor? And they both say they I know
2:15:45
their name? Well, they can't I mean, what is that?
2:15:49
John C Dvorak: Baby? It's transperson. That would make
2:15:52
sense. Now,
2:15:55
Adam Curry: the there was a thing was this was the FBI guy
2:15:59
who was saying, Well, you know, he was he was a registered
2:16:04
Republican. And, you know, he was he had posted all kinds of,
2:16:09
you know, anti semitic stuff. So that makes total sense. They
2:16:12
wanted to kill Trump. Unfortunately, they also
2:16:16
subpoenaed gab and Tor boss, the guy who was a tour was the guy
2:16:20
who runs the gab site. He gave them all the information, which
2:16:25
I think was seven or 900 pages of posts. And these posts came
2:16:30
after this 2019 information that showed this this shooter, this
2:16:36
Crux fellow, as, as a registered Republican, Marsha Blackburn did
2:16:41
bring it up in the hearing.
2:16:43
Unknown: And then we understand that the gab account, is pro
2:16:48
immigration pro locked down leftist views. Is that accurate?
2:16:54
I haven't seen it directly. But I believe from what I've been
2:16:57
told that is accurate with the gab account. We're also though
2:17:00
that's been publicly revealed through the CIO and other
2:17:03
things. We're still working to certify and verify that that's
2:17:06
his account, also, but it does have differing points of view,
2:17:10
it would appear.
2:17:12
Okay, and what age? And how fresh. Is that gap account?
2:17:18
The cab account? Based on my recollection, the comments in
2:17:23
there or the messaging is from about 2021, I believe.
2:17:27
Okay. And the other preceded that maybe he was age 14?
2:17:32
Yes, Senator, the the other account that we talked about was
2:17:36
in the 2019 2020 timeframe.
2:17:40
Adam Curry: So this, I mean, it's very odd, it reeks of a
2:17:44
total cover up. And I would say, yeah, there's a cover up
2:17:48
underway, particularly from the mainstream media, where it not
2:17:52
for this astounding interview that ABC aired, and has been re
2:17:56
aired and hashed up and chopped up and put on everywhere, where
2:18:01
they talk to the local, the local guys who the Secret
2:18:06
Service is blaming for the mess up. And and well, here's a piece
2:18:10
of it. I
2:18:10
Unknown: remember standing in the parking lot and talking to
2:18:12
one of the guys. And so we just became part of history. And not
2:18:17
a good way,
2:18:17
walking around
2:18:18
and just seemed out of place. Greg nickels snapped these
2:18:21
photos of the shooter. If we had a
2:18:23
Text group between the local snipers that were on scene, I'd
2:18:27
sent those pictures out to that group and advise them of what I
2:18:31
noticed. And what I'd seen. What do you think is I assume that
2:18:35
there would be somebody coming out to, you know, speak with
2:18:39
this individual or find out what's going on?
2:18:42
So how do you know if Greg's concerns about Crux are being
2:18:47
relayed properly? We
2:18:48
don't it's we have to assume that when he put that
2:18:52
information out to command, that command took that information
2:18:56
and did something with it.
2:18:58
John C Dvorak: And now somehow, the Secret Service guys that
2:19:00
were protecting Trump claimed they never even got word of
2:19:04
this, like they've never heard about it at all.
2:19:07
Unknown: We were supposed to get a face to face briefing with the
2:19:10
Secret Service snipers whenever they arrived, and that never
2:19:13
happened. So I think that that was probably a pivotal point
2:19:18
where I started thinking things were wrong, because that never
2:19:22
happened. And we had no communication with the Secret
2:19:23
Service.
2:19:25
You had no communication with the Secret Service at all on
2:19:28
that Saturday? No,
2:19:29
not until after the shooting,
2:19:31
I believe. Yeah. Then by then, it was too late.
2:19:35
Adam Curry: The only thing I can come up with is we were supposed
2:19:38
to have a dead Trump and a lot of conspiracy theories. Just put
2:19:43
as much nonsense get everything make it looks like everyone
2:19:47
pointing at each other. This was this is not playing out the way
2:19:50
it was intended. This is this is baffling to me. Do you have any
2:19:56
thoughts?
2:19:57
John C Dvorak: Well, there was a woman thicker Names last name is
2:20:00
crab trim not sure investigative journalist who has been
2:20:05
following this and she was on one of the radio shows. And she
2:20:09
says this guy this guy took over from Cheadle is the really the
2:20:14
go to guy, he's the guy responsible. He should have been
2:20:17
fired today along with her quitting. We're
2:20:19
Adam Curry: just gonna call him No, not today I'm
2:20:20
John C Dvorak: not talking about the vague I'm talking about the
2:20:22
guy that was testifying Oh, with the funny haircut. Oh, that guy.
2:20:27
That guy. That guy. He's the second in command he took over.
2:20:31
He's the temporary chief now of the Secret Service guys. And she
2:20:36
says he's the real responsible guy. He's the one he's the go to
2:20:40
guys. Cheetah was just a figurehead, the new appointee
2:20:44
and he's the guy who's really running things. And he's the guy
2:20:46
should go.
2:20:49
Adam Curry: I mean, you see, I'm sure you've seen the video where
2:20:51
you see the kid actually walking while Trump is talking. You see
2:20:54
him getting into position just before he shot? Yeah. I mean,
2:20:58
this. It's crazy. I
2:21:01
John C Dvorak: think I think there may be something to the
2:21:03
idea that Trump should be dead.
2:21:05
Adam Curry: He should be. I think the the real. Of course,
2:21:07
Joe was also supposed to be dead. Stay tuned. And Trump
2:21:12
should not be alive that and they had all this setup to make
2:21:16
it just as confusing as possible, you know, the initial
2:21:19
like, wow, you know, he searched for JFK, you know, make it like
2:21:22
a JFK assassination. Have people trying to figure this out for
2:21:26
the next 50 years? And then, you know, oh, we can't release the
2:21:30
files, you know, to also
2:21:32
John C Dvorak: throw in this idea that Iran would he put him
2:21:35
on a hit list? Yes. Yes. Something they don't necessarily
2:21:39
release. There's no way to knowing this is bullcrap that
2:21:43
part, and then having the phony baloney bank accounts that this
2:21:46
kid supposedly had and all over the world somehow he's just a
2:21:50
kid. Give me a break.
2:21:52
Adam Curry: We may never know. We may never know. Trump is
2:21:57
insinuating inside job. He has been, you know?
2:22:00
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he has been insinuating he's been true
2:22:03
thing.
2:22:03
Adam Curry: I have a couple of boots on the ground about
2:22:05
CrowdStrike. You know, I've been I have not let this Microsoft as
2:22:09
your outage slipped by. Remember, we still don't really
2:22:14
know. I mean, yeah, we know what happened with CrowdStrike. But
2:22:17
the fact that it happened is so outrageous. For a company that
2:22:22
does these things. For a living, it just makes no sense. But it
2:22:26
came right after it looked like all of the Microsoft Azure,
2:22:30
their whole cloud, Microsoft 365, all kinds of things were
2:22:34
happening. And we had and
2:22:36
John C Dvorak: don't forget that this also coincides with a shot
2:22:38
at Trump. Yes. So right
2:22:40
Adam Curry: after it Well, a couple days later, after his
2:22:43
speech at the at the RNC, which I initially thought, well, you
2:22:47
know, it seems like that happened right on time to change
2:22:52
the news cycle, which it did. But I have a couple of boots on
2:22:56
the ground. First one, and these are all dudes dude named Ben. In
2:23:02
this case, I'm a vice president of delivery. And a large
2:23:05
Microsoft Partner think along the lines of avant de RSM. We're
2:23:09
PWC. Price Waterhouse Cooper, the week of the CrowdStrike
2:23:14
issue on that Thursday, the day before the large CrowdStrike
2:23:17
issue outage, we had observed an extremely large outage for all
2:23:21
of our clients in the central US Azure region, dynamics 365 ce
2:23:27
fNo, Outlook team SharePoint, accessible, etc. Were all
2:23:31
unaccessible. We contacted Microsoft Support and Receive
2:23:34
little news or information as to the root cause, which is weird
2:23:38
for a large partner. Even a week later, the information they've
2:23:41
shared with us is a nothing burger. Friday morning is when
2:23:45
we reserve the CrowdStrike outage. The News reported that
2:23:48
CrowdStrike took down Azure but on our end, it seems to be the
2:23:51
reverse. He says something happened at Microsoft and they
2:23:55
appear to have requested assistance from CrowdStrike. Not
2:23:58
sure what else transpired or the nitty gritty but figured out
2:24:01
pass this along, given episode 1680s commentary. Then now, as
2:24:07
your and I've received several emails about this, they also run
2:24:11
all of the military systems as your Microsoft Azure is a big
2:24:15
cloud provider for the government, in particular for
2:24:18
the military. I am currently seeing many articles about the
2:24:22
new Microsoft 360 and Azure outages. This is from one of our
2:24:26
producers in the army. I'm not done listening to Sunday show
2:24:30
but I'm not sure if we talked about this any further. In my
2:24:32
last email, I forgot to mention my skepticism of the timing of
2:24:34
the cloud strike issues. Not sure about other branches of the
2:24:37
army. But the army has very recently started officially
2:24:41
using Microsoft 360 slash Azure. Then all of a sudden they're
2:24:45
having a lot of problems and now a network infrastructure issue,
2:24:49
just running if you and John believed that that looks like
2:24:51
something that people are in fact trying to breach military
2:24:54
Microsoft accounts, the timing is just too close to be some
2:24:57
sort of coincidence and there's Only one article that talks
2:25:01
about this and then the final one ITM I had a quick boots on
2:25:07
the ground report about the cyber incident, I work for a
2:25:10
mechanical repair and overhaul company in the aviation
2:25:12
industry, we have to take out the name of that. We have an
2:25:17
even mix of commercial and military work earlier this week,
2:25:20
we were told not to turn on any of our computers. The internet
2:25:24
was shut off at every site from Texas to Indonesia, we had been
2:25:28
hacked by someone or a group of someone's for something.
2:25:31
Obviously, since we do a lot of military work, the fears we were
2:25:34
targeted for information on the different aircraft, we servers,
2:25:38
but it could just also be a ransomware attack on a machine
2:25:41
is not it so only have limited information, all this. The only
2:25:44
effect this has had on me so far is I can't access master cam
2:25:48
without the internet to verify the license. We use Microsoft
2:25:51
Azure, I talked with my tea guy, he said it's not a huge leap to
2:25:54
think it's connected to what happened with them. But
2:25:56
everything they've been seeing points this being a long thought
2:26:00
out attack separate from that event. Nobody knows what they
2:26:03
were after. Or if they got it not surprised that this has
2:26:06
happened. There have been a lot of complaints from our IT guys
2:26:09
about poor network security. A handful of sites are in the
2:26:12
middle of transitioning to a new company after they recently were
2:26:14
sold. And the world the word is triumph dropped their IT support
2:26:18
for those sites prematurely before the new company that
2:26:21
purchased them could take over. This smells bad. And it it's
2:26:27
also very possible that some hack occurred on the Azure cloud
2:26:34
network. And CrowdStrike was called in to take everything
2:26:39
down, just bring all the computers down. We need
2:26:41
everything to shut down right now, which it did. And it's a
2:26:47
good way to do it. It's like the best kill switch you can
2:26:49
imagine. One that you can relatively easily turn back on,
2:26:54
and guarantee that everybody using Microsoft in a network
2:26:58
environment would have their machines cut off. We may never
2:27:02
know. But I like our boots on the ground reporting. And then
2:27:05
finally for you from our constitutional lawyer, Rob about
2:27:10
the EULA. And the CrowdStrike and CrowdStrike. There is a
2:27:14
class action lawsuit. And it's boys Schiller. These are not
2:27:19
just some fly by night dudes. And I said how this is but how
2:27:25
can they get past the EULA? How can they sue CrowdStrike for
2:27:29
what happened? And he gave me a two point answer, fraud vitiates
2:27:35
whatever that means, everything it touches, including EULAs. So
2:27:39
if boy Schiller can make a colorable claim that CrowdStrike
2:27:44
made false representation in selling its product, the EULA
2:27:48
might fall by the wayside. What kinds of representations Well,
2:27:52
it could be many things such as false statements about their pre
2:27:55
release testing their safety measures or the recovery
2:27:57
process, their security, etc. Boy Schiller is scrubbing these
2:28:01
issues out as we speak. If there's a crack in the EULA,
2:28:04
damn, boy Shiller will find it and use it to maximum effect.
2:28:08
They wouldn't even have to take it to trial settlement
2:28:11
settlement leverage is all they need. So that's for you.
2:28:18
Unknown: Nice, yeah.
2:28:19
Adam Curry: I love our producers. This is why we're the
2:28:22
best podcast in the universe.
2:28:24
John C Dvorak: Yeah, pretty much.
2:28:28
Adam Curry: And of course, oh, man.
2:28:29
John C Dvorak: Oh, you know, she makes $30 million. Right
2:28:31
Adam Curry: on cue. Right on cue. It's time to start the
2:28:35
pivot. We've got to get away from this AI. We've got to keep
2:28:38
the Wall Street hype going. 60 minutes comes in. Thank you.
2:28:41
Scott Pelley whenever and when a hype is created. You know this
2:28:46
douchebag Michio Kaku is going to be right in the middle of it.
2:28:51
Unknown: Artificial Intelligence is the magic of the moment. But
2:28:54
this is a story about what's next, something
2:28:58
incomprehensible. This past December, IBM announced in
2:29:03
advance in an entirely new kind of computing, one that may solve
2:29:08
problems in minutes. That would take today's supercomputers, the
2:29:12
billions. That's the difference in quantum computing technology
2:29:19
being developed at IBM, Google and others. It's named for
2:29:23
quantum physics, which describes the forces of the subatomic
2:29:27
realm. And as we told you last winter, the science is deep, and
2:29:33
we can't scratch the surface. But we hope to explain just
2:29:37
enough so that you won't be blindsided by a breakthrough
2:29:41
that could transform civilization.
2:29:44
Adam Curry: I like the term the magic of the moment. That's
2:29:49
right. You gotta believe in magic to believe it's coming.
2:29:53
Yes. Bring in the crazy guy with the crazy hair.
2:29:58
Unknown: The quantum computer pushes the limits of knowledge.
2:30:02
Yeah, new science, new engineering, new memes, all
2:30:06
leading to this processor that computes with the atomic forces
2:30:11
that created the universe. Oh, no.
2:30:15
Adam Curry: It's God, like, God like to
2:30:18
Unknown: understand the change, go back to 1947. And the
2:30:23
invention of a switch called a transistor, the transistor, a
2:30:28
new name, computers have processed information on
2:30:31
transistors ever since getting faster, as more transistors were
2:30:36
squeezed onto a chip, billions of them today, aliens, but it
2:30:41
takes that many because each transistor holds information and
2:30:46
only two states it's either on or it's off, like a coin, heads
2:30:51
or tails, not holding
2:30:53
John C Dvorak: information.
2:30:55
Adam Curry: How well I'm gonna I'm gonna let you respond after
2:30:57
this 19 seconds is up sales,
2:31:00
Unknown: quantum abandons transistors, and encodes
2:31:03
information on electrons that behave in a way so that they are
2:31:07
heads and tails and everything in between. You've gone from
2:31:12
handling one bit of information at a time on a transistor to
2:31:17
exponentially more data.
2:31:19
Adam Curry: All right, John C. Dvorak, technology experts tell
2:31:23
me about quantum computing. Is it real? Is it coming? Is it
2:31:26
here? Is it the next big thing? Do we need to invest in it
2:31:29
quick?
2:31:31
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm not saying it's not a good
2:31:33
investment, if it if everyone thinks it's a good investment,
2:31:36
because that's how stocks go up and down. It's got nothing to do
2:31:38
with anything. There's no evidence that these things work.
2:31:44
There's no evidence that this technology is even doable. And
2:31:48
everything that's been going on so far, is let's go with the
2:31:50
quantum computing thing. Google made an announcement it must
2:31:55
have been 10 years ago, that they had a quantum computer that
2:31:58
solve some problem they wouldn't have been able to solve in
2:32:01
100,000 years. And then what what happened after what,
2:32:06
where's this? What we're, how come we haven't gone anywhere
2:32:09
since then? Because
2:32:10
Adam Curry: they don't have enough qubits. They need more
2:32:13
qubits. We need investment for more qubits.
2:32:16
John C Dvorak: I mean, it's like what happened? You remember this
2:32:19
when Google said they saw some problem using their quantum
2:32:23
computer? It was like something that would have taken 100,000
2:32:27
years, but they did it like in 10 minutes, or whatever hour or
2:32:29
whatever it was. And then we haven't heard anything. We
2:32:33
haven't heard Jack since then. What What was that all about?
2:32:38
was, it was bullcrap is what it was, there was no, there was
2:32:41
nothing solved. I see. I mean, this whole quantum computer
2:32:45
thing is a pie in the sky. That's never been shown to work.
2:32:48
And if it was shown if it ever could work using quantum
2:32:53
physics, which JB actually did have two things in it. Two
2:32:57
different things in two different spots. At the same
2:32:59
time, it's really something no one can fathom. Nobody could
2:33:04
program these things. This is ridiculous. I do is a good
2:33:08
diversion.
2:33:09
Adam Curry: I have a 2016 clip of Justin Trudeau about science.
2:33:14
Unknown: So you don't have to be a geek like me to appreciate how
2:33:17
important this work is. Although I have to tell you when we get
2:33:20
to the media questions later, I'm really hoping people ask me
2:33:23
how quantum computing works. Because
2:33:26
Adam Curry: remember, he opened the quantum computer center in
2:33:29
Canada. How'd that work out? Yeah, man, this is from
2:33:34
John C Dvorak: almost 10 years ago.
2:33:35
Adam Curry: This is 2019 Glenn Beck on quantum computing. And
2:33:39
right now that computer is called this is with Jeff Brown,
2:33:43
it was actually
2:33:45
Unknown: partially built by IBM. And it's one of the one of the
2:33:49
Department of Energy's National Laboratories and it's capable of
2:33:52
something called 200 petaflops per second, which is just
2:33:57
imagine football field sized.
2:33:59
Adam Curry: Okay, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever. I'm
2:34:02
just telling you that my prediction that they're going to
2:34:05
they're going to switch Wall Street will switch from AI to
2:34:09
quantum computing because it's falling apart
2:34:13
John C Dvorak: it's falling apart he's got he's got still
2:34:15
got more legs.
2:34:16
Adam Curry: How much more legs
2:34:21
John C Dvorak: Well, got more legs. I won't bore you with now
2:34:25
know how much more legs all I know is has got more legs. Well
2:34:28
you want
2:34:29
Adam Curry: to hear the last clip of Michio Kaku, Kaku.
2:34:32
Unknown: Yeah, might as well enjoy him as
2:34:34
well. You can see that there's fantastic amount of information
2:34:37
stored when you can look at all possible angles, not just up or
2:34:42
down. physicist
2:34:44
Michio Kaku of the City University of New York already
2:34:48
calls today's computers classical. He uses a maze to
2:34:53
explain quantum difference. Let's
2:34:56
look at a classical computer calculating how a mouse now
2:35:00
navigate a maze. It is painful. One by one, it has to map every
2:35:05
single left turn right turn left turn right turn before it finds
2:35:09
that goal. Now a quantum computer scans all possible
2:35:14
routes simultaneously. This is amazing. How many turns are
2:35:18
there hundreds of possible turns, right? Quantum computers
2:35:21
do it all at once.
2:35:24
Kakuzu book titled quantum supremacy explains the stakes.
2:35:29
We're looking at a race race between China between IBM here
2:35:34
it is Google, Microsoft, Honeywell, all the big boys are
2:35:39
in any way to create a workable, operationally efficient quantum
2:35:44
computer. Because the nation or company that does this will rule
2:35:49
the world economy. This
2:35:51
Adam Curry: is what they said about AI. And now it's about
2:35:55
quantum computing. And he's got a book out so you know, it's
2:35:57
real. Apple has decided not to use NVIDIA GPUs for its AI
2:36:06
models instead is using the Google TP use. Which is
2:36:11
interesting. metas AI assistant, which was widely widely
2:36:18
distributed, said Oh, no, no, the Trump's assassination
2:36:21
attempt was fictional. Like rocket that's right up there
2:36:25
with glue on your pizza. So I'll say it, I'll let me be the one.
2:36:33
There's no evidence quantum computing will ever work. Let me
2:36:39
be the one to say it.
2:36:42
John C Dvorak: And I can argue it, you know, because I use
2:36:45
there's no evidence I use the no, there's no evidence that
2:36:48
that, that that to hold that the model even even even works at
2:36:54
all. I mean, it's it's this let alone programmable. in enough
2:36:59
trouble. There was an era with called parallel computing. And
2:37:02
they came all these
2:37:03
Adam Curry: decisions. Yes, I remember parallel computing.
2:37:06
Yeah, they couldn't
2:37:07
John C Dvorak: program those things that they couldn't do it.
2:37:10
It's just not programmable. There's only so much you can you
2:37:13
have to program these things. They don't do it on their own.
2:37:16
They can't do it. They don't self program, even though
2:37:19
there's a belief that AI creates programs. And you know, it can
2:37:23
do some code, but it doesn't. It's nothing creative. Somebody
2:37:27
Adam Curry: has to die before they give up this ai ai stuff.
2:37:30
Someone's got to die. It's got to kill somebody. I mean, it's
2:37:36
all just such bunk. And the energy. I mean, it's crazy how
2:37:40
the energy requirements are just not being Oh, well, you need
2:37:43
more power. Doesn't matter. You know, it's climate change. We
2:37:47
don't care. We don't care about climate change when it comes to
2:37:50
that. No, no, not at all. Speaking of climate change, we
2:37:57
got that horrible Park fire up in California. Yeah, good one.
2:38:03
Unknown: Tonight, the nation's largest wildfire, bracing and
2:38:07
boundless. Firefighters spread thin over the park fire a threat
2:38:11
zone now sprawling across four counties in less than a week
2:38:15
growing into California's sixth largest wildfire ever. According
2:38:19
to CAL FIRE. The biggest in state history are all from the
2:38:22
last six years, an era of climate driven fire seasons that
2:38:27
scientists say start sooner and last
2:38:29
long. Seems to be just a continuous cycle of these and
2:38:35
it wears on our community to NBC
2:38:38
Adam Curry: News, just taking a little opportunity there to turn
2:38:41
and clear case of arson into arson. Thank
2:38:46
John C Dvorak: you for that. Yeah.
2:38:47
Adam Curry: Now the guy that blew up his car and drove it
2:38:50
into a ditch and started the fire. But now as climate change
2:38:56
what these people are horrible. Not as bad though as Hotep.
2:39:03
John C Dvorak: Tell your buddy, Dr. Hodes, back in the news. Dr.
2:39:06
Hotep
2:39:06
Adam Curry: Hotez is back. Now along with that you need to know
2:39:10
let me just grab the latest here. That was it. There's all
2:39:20
kinds of approvals now for bird flu vaccines, dang gay vaccines,
2:39:27
whatever it is, we're gonna have a vaccine for you. Whatever we
2:39:31
can get some traction with. We'll have a vaccine. It's all
2:39:34
mRNA based. And so they catch up with Hotep Hotez. And he says,
2:39:42
it's really not going to matter. Because there's too many people
2:39:45
who are anti vaccine and anti science. We're gonna have to
2:39:49
call in the big guns literally, you
2:39:52
Unknown: know, the health sector doesn't know what to do. Because
2:39:55
this is not first and foremost a political problem. And when I've
2:40:00
said to the Biden administration is the health sector can't solve
2:40:06
this on its own, we're going to have to bring in Homeland
2:40:10
Security, Commerce Department, Justice Department to help us
2:40:14
understand how to do this. And they've said the same with I met
2:40:18
with Dr. Tedros. Last month and Geneva who the director general
2:40:24
just say, I don't know that the World Health Organization can
2:40:27
solve this on our own. We need the other United Nations
2:40:30
agencies. NATO, this is a security problem, because it's
2:40:34
no longer a theoretical construct are some arcane
2:40:38
academic exercise. 200,000 Americans died because of anti
2:40:43
vaccine aggression, anti science aggression. And so this is now a
2:40:48
lethal force, that and now I feel as a pediatric vaccine
2:40:52
scientist, it's just as just as though it's important, just as
2:40:57
important for me to make new vaccines to save lives. The
2:41:01
other side of saving lives is countering this anti vaccine
2:41:05
aggression. So we
2:41:06
Adam Curry: need to make you take the vaccines at gunpoint
2:41:09
and everybody who is anti vaccine or anti science, anti
2:41:13
science aggression. They need to be arrested or shot. Shot on
2:41:18
site. This guy is he's a danger.
2:41:24
John C Dvorak: He is a danger that guy gambling he looks at
2:41:27
too if you look at him. He is a creased creep. Yes. He's a
2:41:31
complete creep. He looks like a creep. He's got to shake his
2:41:34
head his look a smile everything. It's just gives you
2:41:37
the it makes you it's he's great.
2:41:40
Adam Curry: These are all he's. He's a creep. Hey, we can't end
2:41:43
the show without discussing the chaos in the United Kingdom. He
2:41:48
didn't have one clip. Okay, let's where's your clip? WaPo
2:41:54
WaPo Oh, no, it says UK All right. Maybe not. UK stabbings?
2:41:59
Yeah.
2:41:59
John C Dvorak: UK stabbings.
2:42:00
Unknown: Turning now to unrest in the UK protesters clashed
2:42:04
with police in northwest England amid outrage over the killing of
2:42:07
three young girls. So far roughly 50 law enforcement
2:42:11
officers were reportedly injured and nearly 30 of them were sent
2:42:15
to the hospital. The event traces back to a stabbing spree
2:42:18
on a Monday where a 17 year old suspect killed three children
2:42:23
and injured 11 others at a Taylor Swift themed dance class.
2:42:27
The stabbing suspect is currently in custody, but police
2:42:30
have yet to release any details about him. Officials that the
2:42:34
outrage stems from allegations circulating that the suspect was
2:42:37
an illegal immigrant footage show police vehicles damaged and
2:42:41
set alight as officers were pelted with bricks and large
2:42:45
garbage containers. The violence took place as the town was
2:42:48
holding a peaceful vigil mourning the lives lost in the
2:42:52
tragic event. So we
2:42:54
Adam Curry: have a producer named Sarah in the UK and she's
2:42:56
kept me very up to speed on this one I've
2:42:58
John C Dvorak: gotten her notes to she's good. Oh, she
2:43:00
Adam Curry: sends him to you as well. I wonder if she sends the
2:43:02
same ones interesting. Very long and full of links
2:43:07
John C Dvorak: No, I don't get links from no no I maybe think
2:43:10
as someone else yeah, maybe
2:43:11
Adam Curry: Okay, so she says is really disgusting how the media
2:43:15
and politicians are calling people who are taking to the
2:43:20
streets and are outraged by what has happened calling them far
2:43:23
right and racists and you know, members of Nigel Farage his
2:43:28
party and of course this is horrible for the new Kier
2:43:31
Starmer, the new prime minister because it's all happening on
2:43:33
his watch. But she also and there's nothing I can play clips
2:43:36
but she sent me clip after clip of people fighting in the
2:43:41
streets with machetes Machete is like the the weapon of choice in
2:43:45
the UK. And it's just everywhere. They don't have
2:43:48
guns. They don't have guns, so they got machetes. And and now
2:43:54
this this kid turns out he his name is His name is because they
2:44:00
have his name. Axel Ruta Cabana, he is a Rwandan of Rwandan
2:44:08
parents. He was born in the UK, there's still no clear motive.
2:44:14
But he just went up and started slashing kids and anybody he
2:44:18
could. And because he's only six days away from his 18th
2:44:22
birthday, the magistrate has wisely decided to disclose his
2:44:26
name. The media has only shown photos of him when he was like
2:44:29
seven. Oh, look at this cute little kid. Well, he's not
2:44:33
quite, very classic. Well,
2:44:35
Unknown: there are two different court hearings today. Tom first
2:44:38
in the Youth Court, which is then moved on to the Crown Court
2:44:42
for the second hearing where Axel Ruda Barna was named under
2:44:47
reporting restrictions on his identity were lifted because he
2:44:50
turns 18 In just six days, and the judge here said that the
2:44:56
principle interest for lifting that restriction was that he
2:44:59
would soon reach his majority and therefore would have all
2:45:03
those restrictions lifted regardless, he also pointed
2:45:06
towards much of the unrest that we've seen taking place across
2:45:10
the country in recent days writing last night, not only in
2:45:15
London but also in Hartlepool and Manchester, the judge here
2:45:19
saying Mr. menorah and Mr. Justice Buneary Casey saying
2:45:22
that at least part of that writing had been inspired by in
2:45:26
a vacuum of the facts where false information was being
2:45:29
spread. He said this was nonsense, and it needed to be
2:45:32
challenged with the truth was truth is now that the suspects
2:45:36
in this case alleged to have committed three murders and 10
2:45:39
attempted murders and possession of an offensive sharp blade is
2:45:44
Axel ruder cabana is 17 year old again turning 18 In just six
2:45:49
days as the suspects in this case, sitting in the courtroom
2:45:53
in the first lower courts in the in the Magistris. He was silent
2:45:58
but his smiles towards the press gallery behind the dock as he
2:46:01
entered the court and then covered his face with his gray
2:46:04
jumper tracksuit. In the Crown Court he entered without gazing
2:46:08
towards us, again covering his face with a tracksuit rocking
2:46:12
gently side to side as he heard deliberations between the
2:46:16
defending and prosecuting barristers, and the judge about
2:46:20
these reporting restrictions and upcoming dates.
2:46:23
Adam Curry: So it's a tinderbox right now and people have taken
2:46:27
to 10 Downing Street got a couple of good chance which I
2:46:31
thought were worth playing this is the first one
2:46:42
this is the Crowd Chant
2:46:43
John C Dvorak: I can't I don't understand what they said
2:46:46
Adam Curry: no more boats
2:46:48
John C Dvorak: no more boats is what they said yeah, because
2:46:51
Adam Curry: the again the immigrants are coming in on
2:46:54
boats no more boats no more boats. And then this one
2:47:01
hopefully you can understand
2:47:12
we want our country back. Oh, well. You voted for the wrong
2:47:17
party. If you want your country back because they're all in on
2:47:22
immigration. So
2:47:24
John C Dvorak: well so as I've been to immigration peaked with
2:47:27
it with the with the conservatives. It was going
2:47:30
through the roof with them there last year.
2:47:33
Adam Curry: I didn't say they should vote vote conservative. I
2:47:35
said they voted the wrong party. How about Nigel Farage
2:47:39
John C Dvorak: I guess you're gonna have to go that way
2:47:40
because these two parties the Conservatives and they and the
2:47:43
labor are just they're useless they're not dental care
2:47:50
Adam Curry: it's a one on one a mess What a mess as the knife
2:47:54
crime is just it's amazing. But the Brits you know and these
2:47:58
guys are walking around they got the the Union Jack flag draped
2:48:01
around their shoulders. It's this is a tinderbox situation.
2:48:05
This is not going to end well. And I don't I don't think they
2:48:07
know what to do. Other than take a hard line people want a hard
2:48:12
line now they're sick of it. They're sick of it. And it's not
2:48:16
necessarily that by the way, what's this was always showing
2:48:19
the the 15 year old picture you know, of the shooter. The Trump
2:48:27
assassin the this kid the all of it, who was
2:48:32
John C Dvorak: always show some some picture when the kid was
2:48:34
young and innocent look yes. That's like It's like stay did
2:48:38
that with the hands up don't shoot guy.
2:48:41
Adam Curry: Yeah, with Yeah, who's a big fat huge Bruiser,
2:48:45
John C Dvorak: and they keep showing a little picture when he
2:48:47
was in grammar school. Yeah, yeah. Brown or whatever his name
2:48:50
was. Yeah.
2:48:53
Adam Curry: You gave me a link for the show notes. It has not
2:48:55
come up I just want to remind you electro hypersensitivity, do
2:48:58
you want to talk about that? Or is that something that come
2:49:01
wait?
2:49:03
John C Dvorak: I'm not going to be able to talk about it. We got
2:49:07
even sent it to you not you mentioned it Hey, do we need to
2:49:09
do anything? I'll just say quickly that is a good link in
2:49:13
the show notes people should check out which has to do with
2:49:17
with RF basically too much of it in the in the house. You're
2:49:22
getting tinnitus, you're getting all these issues from the that's
2:49:25
why I tell people to use the home plug home plug networking
2:49:30
system that goes through the wires? Yes, yes, it works. It's
2:49:34
actually faster. There's no degradation over over the length
2:49:39
of the distance between the the source with with Wi Fi you get
2:49:45
slower and slower as you get further away. There's not that
2:49:48
you don't have that problem with the home wire.
2:49:50
Adam Curry: I recommend a tinfoil hat personally, that
2:49:53
will protect
2:49:54
John C Dvorak: you probably is not a bad idea nowadays.
2:49:57
Adam Curry: Here's the interesting little update
2:49:59
Unknown: the Pentagon just announced the three men Khalid
2:50:01
Sheikh Mohammed will lead in Attash and Mustafa Al hawsawi
2:50:05
will plead guilty to some charges as early as next week as
2:50:09
part of plea agreements in the military Commission's process.
2:50:12
They've been held at Gitmo for years with the US accusing the
2:50:15
al Qaeda terrorists suspects of plotting the 911 attacks that
2:50:18
killed nearly 3000 people. Now, the details of the plea
2:50:21
agreements are still unknown, but they are expected to plead
2:50:25
guilty to lesser charges that could spare them the death
2:50:28
penalty. Sentencing may not come for months, but they will likely
2:50:32
appear at a hearing in Guantanamo in the coming days.
2:50:35
Adam Curry: Not quite sure what to make of that news wire that's
2:50:37
coming out now. All of a sudden, I don't understand the timing of
2:50:40
it.
2:50:41
John C Dvorak: Some reason something is happening. Yeah. So
2:50:43
I'm getting ready to shut down go on to get Mo. Oh.
2:50:48
Adam Curry: And then of course, Israel striking Bay route.
2:50:53
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we should at least talk about this. All
2:50:55
right. You got a clip I'm sure I also have some clips from the
2:50:57
Venezuelan election.
2:50:58
Adam Curry: I can push those Yeah, we push that off because
2:51:00
we're running we're running it on.
2:51:02
John C Dvorak: But Israel thing is too, too much stuff going on.
2:51:07
I have an analysis from a Hamas expert, okay. That I think might
2:51:13
be worth listening to. This is a let's play the background or
2:51:16
first this is the clip Israel kills two leaders. Israel kills
2:51:20
two leaders, we
2:51:21
Unknown: turn to the Middle East where two developments in the
2:51:24
past 24 hours have pushed tensions to a critical point.
2:51:28
First, Israel said it killed a leader of the terrorist group
2:51:30
Hezbollah in Beirut and then another airstrike allegedly
2:51:35
carried out by Israel took out political leader and head of
2:51:38
negotiations for a possible ceasefire deal in Gaza. Given
2:51:42
honey as public facing role and leadership. We wanted to know
2:51:46
what his death means for Hamas. So we called Khalid al kindI.
2:51:50
He's a senior fellow at the Middle East Institute, where he
2:51:53
directs the program on Palestine and Israeli Palestinian Affairs.
2:51:56
Welcome back to all things considered.
2:51:58
Thanks for having me back.
2:51:59
Well, Israel has now allegedly killed three out of the four top
2:52:03
leaders of Hamas, but Hamas says its leaders don't matter that it
2:52:07
has lost plenty of leaders to Israeli attacks before. How do
2:52:11
you see the loss of money affecting the group's operations
2:52:15
and the war in Gaza overall?
2:52:17
Well, in terms of Hamas is operations, it's not going to
2:52:21
change that much in the immediate term, and that there
2:52:25
will be a replacement. And it's not the first time that Hamas
2:52:28
leader has been assassinated by Israel and Hamas will survive,
2:52:33
but also probably gain a lot of domestic political support among
2:52:37
Palestinians. Because Hania was seen as someone who's not a
2:52:42
radical, not even a military person.
2:52:45
I want to follow up on that. You think that there will be
2:52:49
actually more support for Hamas following honey as death?
2:52:53
Because he was moderate. But, I mean, doesn't that depend on who
2:52:56
succeeds Hania? If he was more moderate, in your view, might
2:53:00
that actually harden Hamas is resolved and perhaps leave
2:53:03
leadership in the hands of hardliners? Yeah,
2:53:06
and I think the two things can both be true. I mean, you can
2:53:09
gain support, because people will sympathize with Hamas that
2:53:12
has taken so many losses. And also, it is likely to radicalize
2:53:19
the movement from within. Okay,
2:53:23
John C Dvorak: all right. That's based I had to cut that off
2:53:25
because the guy was boring. Yeah.
2:53:26
Adam Curry: But the it's quite boring.
2:53:29
John C Dvorak: But the thing that's interesting is discuss a
2:53:32
little bit about these last two clips, which are the analysis
2:53:35
clips from NTD which has good at they have they bring on good an
2:53:41
analyst better than the what you heard was NPR was the fact that
2:53:47
this guy, this Hamas guy was in a hardened facility owned by the
2:53:51
you know, run by the Iranian or the Iranian, Iranian guard,
2:53:58
they've whatever that guard operations
2:54:00
Adam Curry: called the Revolutionary Guard.
2:54:03
John C Dvorak: And it was one of those missiles that we've heard
2:54:06
about we see about we know about we don't know the details how
2:54:08
they work. I think they're working with a beacon
2:54:11
personally. But it's like shot from 100 miles away up from a
2:54:15
new I think with an F 63
2:54:17
Adam Curry: laser precision surgical miles away,
2:54:21
John C Dvorak: goes into Tehran goes downtown goes up, the main
2:54:24
drag goes up and into the window of that guy's room and blows him
2:54:29
up.
2:54:30
Unknown: Nice.
2:54:32
John C Dvorak: That's like, wow, it is. So let's listen to this
2:54:38
guy. Earlier
2:54:38
Unknown: we spoke with Cameron consul Renia, Vice President of
2:54:41
the National Union for democracy in Iran about the killing of the
2:54:45
Hamas leader in Tehran. Now Hamas is saying that its
2:54:48
political leader was killed by an Israeli strike in Tehran,
2:54:52
Iran's capital. Now the Israeli government has yet to take
2:54:55
credit for this but if it was Israel, what is the message
2:54:59
here?
2:55:00
I think the message to the Islamic Republic is loudly and
2:55:02
clearly that wherever you are, wherever your proxies are, even
2:55:07
if they're in the heart of your capital, we can get you and we
2:55:10
will get you. And I think that message was received very
2:55:13
clearly in Tehran. Ismail Hania, the leader of Hamas was killed
2:55:18
in Tehran only hours after a private meeting, in his secret
2:55:22
compound, the Supreme Leader secret compound that is, and he
2:55:25
was there attending the inauguration of the regime's new
2:55:28
president. So I think that there's no doubt the message to
2:55:31
Tehran was, we will find you and we will eliminate you. And we
2:55:34
can also do to other of your officials as well, I think it
2:55:36
was not only the killing of his mind hanya that was important.
2:55:40
It was the message that it was sending to ally harmony to mass
2:55:43
with position Qian and enter the leaders of the Islamic Republic,
2:55:46
that Israel has clearly penetrated very high levels of
2:55:50
the regime in Tehran.
2:55:52
And in your view, is this deterrence or escalation?
2:55:55
I think it's clearly deterrence. I think it was such a blow to
2:56:00
the Islamic Republic. Obviously, Ismail hanya is not Iranian. But
2:56:04
he is the leader of one of these Republic's most important
2:56:08
proxies, had he been killed anywhere, it would have been a
2:56:10
blow to the regime. The fact that he was killed in Tehran, on
2:56:15
such an important day for the regime, just hours after seeing
2:56:18
the supreme leader makes it all that much more significant. And
2:56:22
I think that as a result of this, it was such a significant
2:56:25
blow that the regime will be forced to back down to it. To
2:56:29
some extent, I don't think that this will lead to a larger
2:56:31
escalation, or a full out war.
2:56:34
Adam Curry: So my question is, if this guy is like an important
2:56:37
Hamas guy, how do you get to Iran? Did he hop into a jet at
2:56:42
Gaza International?
2:56:45
John C Dvorak: This is the guy who is who is living in Qatar.
2:56:49
Oh,
2:56:49
Adam Curry: this is that guy? Oh, he's one of the Okay. Well,
2:56:52
this had to be one of our missiles. We didn't give Israel
2:56:54
that stuff.
2:56:57
John C Dvorak: I would have to assume is one of our missiles
2:56:59
who dreams like this will blink and
2:57:05
Adam Curry: Blink is like, Oh, we don't know. It's like, we
2:57:07
don't know about it. No, we don't know. We don't know.
2:57:09
John C Dvorak: Nothing, you know, but it's like something I
2:57:12
you know, you have to wonder how the technology works. I mean,
2:57:15
and this was supposedly the tools
2:57:18
Adam Curry: easy. You got an iPhone, we can kill you. I
2:57:22
John C Dvorak: think that might be part of it. Yeah, they could
2:57:25
hone in on an iPhone signal. They could hone in on some a bug
2:57:29
that's planted in the room. And I want agents, Apple watch an
2:57:33
Apple Watch. One
2:57:35
Adam Curry: of those rings, one of those smart rings.
2:57:39
John C Dvorak: Could it be? I mean, but two things finds it
2:57:42
and then it just goes flying around. And then they find it
2:57:45
goes into the window, which is what kills me the money goes in
2:57:48
there and blows up the guy's room and leaves everything else
2:57:52
there. It's
2:57:53
Adam Curry: like, what is the iPhone of death?
2:57:55
John C Dvorak: I think that, you know, it's I didn't think about
2:57:58
the iPhone, but it's it's possible. They have the guy's
2:58:00
phone number. Maybe they're calling him at the time. Yeah,
2:58:04
yeah, the pickup. Oh, goodness. Well, here's part two of this.
2:58:08
And
2:58:08
Unknown: given the tensions we are seeing in the region,
2:58:10
whether that's in Gaza, Lebanon, even Turkey potentially weighing
2:58:14
in, what steps do you see as needed to make sure this doesn't
2:58:18
become a regional war. There
2:58:21
will be more regional chaos, there will be more murdered
2:58:24
innocent civilians on all sides. Israeli Arab, Iranian Western,
2:58:30
as long as the regime in Iran is still in power. The Islamic
2:58:33
Republic has spent 45 years doing what it calls exporting
2:58:38
the revolution. It seeks to undermine legitimate national
2:58:41
governments in Arab countries around the world. We see right
2:58:45
now the Islamic Republic trying to undermine the Saudi Arabian
2:58:48
government, the Jordanian government, the Emirati
2:58:51
government, so many others have effectively taken control of the
2:58:54
Iraqi government over the past several years. So as long as
2:58:57
this regime is in power, there is no real path to peace. There
2:59:01
is no better deal to be had with the regime in Iran. The only
2:59:05
solution really lies in supporting the people of Iran
2:59:08
who every day are facing the brunt of this evil and criminal
2:59:12
regime men are fighting back against it. If they're
2:59:14
successful in getting rid of ally harmony, the puppet master
2:59:17
of all this crime and terrorism, then there's a real chance and
2:59:21
if not probability, or guarantee of peace. Until that happens. I
2:59:26
don't see a path to peace in the Middle East.
2:59:28
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. My analysis real quick. This is the
2:59:31
military industrial complex doing their own thing. They
2:59:34
don't think Blinken knew about it at all. They're doing it.
2:59:38
They're making sure that we get something started here make it
2:59:40
look real scary. Trump may even have something to do with it.
2:59:43
This This has Trump written all over by the way I could just see
2:59:46
him coming out going. We had a smart bomb. It was so smart. It
2:59:50
was so it was it was so smart. It's like I got high IQ but this
2:59:55
bomb died is is very
2:59:56
John C Dvorak: smart. You sound like Gorka. Yeah.
3:00:00
Adam Curry: same, you know, the Trump also leaked out his peace
3:00:03
plan for Ukraine, where he says if I'm reelected, I'm going to
3:00:07
cut off Ukraine aid to Ukraine, but also I'm going to impose
3:00:11
sanctions on Russia that you've never seen before. This is I
3:00:16
think this is playing out in the background. The Peacemaker is
3:00:19
coming. This is his big October surprise, he's going to figure
3:00:23
out a way to claim it. He just had Bibi Netanyahu there, none
3:00:27
of this is coincidence. That's just my thinking.
3:00:32
John C Dvorak: Well, if anything would be better than President
3:00:35
Harris.
3:00:37
Unknown: I'm gonna show my move by Jonah to no agenda. Imagine
3:00:40
all the people who could do that and pull Yeah, that'd be fun.
3:00:50
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John C Dvorak: let's start with Anonymous in Holmes Beach,
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Holmes Beach, Florida. 150. She wants or he wants baby making
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karma. We'll put that at the end. If you don't mind, Martin
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and CO Clune and Cologne Deutschland 117 27. Oh, GM
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Bradley and not we get that it's good to have Germans listening.
3:01:36
Especially after the last show where they had a meet up that
3:01:39
had
3:01:39
Adam Curry: a lot of GA and had a good time.
3:01:42
John C Dvorak: Well, the Germans haven't.
3:01:45
Adam Curry: Because I can see because I got high, high high.
3:01:49
John C Dvorak: They like to sing and they do they do. You go to a
3:01:52
German pub or actually a brow house. There's a lot of Germans
3:01:58
and there's big tables and they're throwing a beer all over
3:02:00
there. And there's the each individual tab will be singing
3:02:03
some some song that's
3:02:05
Adam Curry: weird. I was great. Weird. Weird is weird man. GM
3:02:09
John C Dvorak: Bradley in Knoxville, Tennessee. $100. And
3:02:11
he's a D douching.
3:02:14
Unknown: Youth Band D deuced.
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John C Dvorak: That's for his wife. Yes, Mrs. Bradley. Jason
3:02:21
Chapman and McHenry, Illinois. 808. Kevin McLaughlin, Concord,
3:02:28
North Carolina. He's the Archduke a luna lover of
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America. 808 and boobs. Brittany Miller and Trinidad Colorado.
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808 And
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Adam Curry: she says thanks for the homebuying karma on the
3:02:40
occasion of my loving husband's knighthood, Sir Hans your hand.
3:02:44
Sure hand. It works. We got the house karma warriors.
3:02:48
John C Dvorak: So it works. Cameron Linga in North Branch
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Minnesota 7881 Adam Provencher Provan sir Provencher Provencher
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I guess East York Ontario Canada 6969. Dawn Canary Kaz in May dot
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made Dano may Dawn yo Medano Santa Cruz. He's in Spain,
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Adam Curry: in Tenerife, the Isle of Tenerife and he sent a
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long note in Tenerife is an island. Yes. And it's his
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birthday. So he's on the list. 6707
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John C Dvorak: Thank you for the note, Greg Kohler in Evansville,
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it must have come in another check then. Craig Kohler in
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Evansville, Indiana. 6502. James Buell in Vista California 606
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Bode peche in memory Louisiana 5809 He says I ended up one of
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says that scared me. Well, it should John Tucker 5510 Parcel
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pusher parcel push a part parcel parcel. Oh Miss up ah said
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through UPS 5333 Nicholas Oman in Dilworth, Minnesota to D 325.
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Surely O'Brien in Dover, New Jersey, but the 272 are reserved
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suver souverain reinsert our ID zrt was a he's in Holland How do
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you pronounce that name?
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Adam Curry: This is not a Dutch name research superline his
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daughter's Jana. Her second trip around the sun on July 29. We
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love you says we love you and your daughter Jana
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John C Dvorak: I think that came in late and respite gonna get
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mentioned again in the next show. Okay. There Here's a blank
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entry in Shasta Lake, California 5150. I assume that's anonymous,
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but I don't know. Justin Kaler and Bluffton, Indiana. 50 oz
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we're already at the 50s we're gonna read them off name and
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location Justin Kaler in Bluffton and a Drake in
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and Castle Pines, Colorado, Jordan Tierney and aural South
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Stephen Hutto in St. Petersburg, Florida and last on the
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shortlist, Leslie Walker and she's in Roseburg, Oregon want
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to thank these people for helping us and show 1682 Yes,
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The family you do have a long birthday list Richard souverain
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Black wishes his daughter Eva. Very Happy Birthday turns 13
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tomorrow, sir Marv not married. wishes his son Cory Centella
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Happy Birthday turns 31 today and Evie. Her husband John
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Calbert. Turns out he has a birthday on the fourth. And Jill
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Melka wishes her husband Joe romesco a very happy birthday.
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He turned 60 Happy birthday, buddy. Here's the best podcast
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John C Dvorak: Oh, that's running late because the
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pipeline on rails went by
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Adam Curry: we are running late. So this isn't make good for Jill
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Mel's from Jill Mel show I'm writing to deduce my smokin hot
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husband Joe romesco for his recent 60th birthday. You spend
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deep doo she made me aware of this podcast more than a year
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ago and we look forward to listening to your point of view
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on several issues. We listen to the media in a more critical way
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because of the knowledge and the podcasts and routinely
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year old son Luca and his friends found endless ways to
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not imagine my life without him. I want him to know how much we
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Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs for
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Adam Curry: And then we do have one night this is an interesting
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name how would you pronounce that sir? eternus qui Vai? Would
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you pronounce that one qu iev query a query? query a query a
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query query Evi QUIEVI Korea V Kalevi each m sure it's Latin
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for something rude as it usually is. No help. No help. I lose all
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I'll just mumble he missed
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, no, it's because I think is Latin or
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Adam Curry: bring out your blade forever
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John C Dvorak: for Amis forever. It turned his MS forever. Yes.
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Key heavy. I don't know what that means. I'd have to look at
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the blade. Okay. Oh, there
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Adam Curry: it is beautiful. Andrew Alexander. Thanks for the
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myself. And welcome to the no agenda roundtable.
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I did not see any meetup reports for today's program, but we do
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have a wonderful promo for the upcoming London meetup.
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Unknown: No agenda news. Your next scheduled dose of
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Please be aware that they go down Yeah. And monster demands
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Adam Curry: I think this is the wolf's own pub, if I'm not
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mistaken. So that'll be a good, a good meetup. And we just heard
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from Canary Kaz in El Medano montage row, Montana. Rohan is
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in Tenerife, and he'd organized a meetup today in Tenerife,
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Canary Islands, and hopefully you were there for it. Also
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today the northern wake mini potluck at six o'clock at hoppy
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is like a party? Yeah, yeah,
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Adam Curry: like a party. Everybody is like a party. It's
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almost like a party. It's just like a party. It's a big party.
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No agenda. meetups.com Yes, indeed. As always, we like to.
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We like to do our end of show ISOs who like to select those
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with the group. Although it's really only Adam and John who
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decide. I have to you have three. I'll go first. Are You
3:13:22
Ready? Ready? That's insane. That's insane. Okay, and here's
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my second one.
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Unknown: Thanks so much, guys. Bye. Not too bad. Yeah.
3:13:36
John C Dvorak: Okay, I've got three when I start the bottom we
3:13:38
go from the bottom up start with Wow, wow, that
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Unknown: was a big difference. Yes. Little muddy
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John C Dvorak: little muddy. very muddy. very muddy. I tried
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try Revenge. Revenge
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Unknown: is our duty.
3:13:50
Adam Curry: Okay, all right. All right. I'm not gonna dismiss it
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out of hand.
3:13:54
John C Dvorak: And then really good. And it was really good
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actually. Well, I
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Adam Curry: think it's between thanks so much guys. Bye.
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Unknown: And revenge is our duty.
3:14:04
John C Dvorak: I kind of like my thing so I liked a combination
3:14:07
of the two No, I
3:14:08
Adam Curry: don't I don't like I don't like combos I think it's a
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weak make all we say that make a decision you do them make a
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decision.
3:14:16
John C Dvorak: I don't get revenge is kind of a negative
3:14:18
thing. I'll go with your up upbeat one.
3:14:21
Unknown: Thanks so much, guys. Bye. Yeah, I
3:14:23
Adam Curry: agree. I think that's much better. Thank you.
3:14:25
Thank you for making a wise decision. And now ladies,
3:14:28
gentlemen, as we end the show, it's time once again.
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Unknown: Just
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Adam Curry: JC, just the tip only the tip times. Nothing but
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the tip but as your tip of the day so you can go into your day
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and eventually into your weekend with good information with a tip
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John C Dvorak: or tips another product another product I want
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to promote from Amazon and
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Adam Curry: are you promoting Amazon again? Is that what's
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going on?
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John C Dvorak: Unfortunately, you can probably get it
3:14:56
elsewhere. You can probably relate directly to the company.
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But this was a this is another lubricant that was developed by
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Adam Curry: lubricant tip everybody.
3:15:07
John C Dvorak: I know this is the one that I wanted to plug
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some time ago and I came up with liquid bearing which is a second
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second to it. This is called bow shield t nine. This is a modern
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version of WD 40. And it's like ranch hand is more like ranch
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and with a
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Adam Curry: stop the show. No agenda shop needs to make Jhansi
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Dvorak lube I don't, I don't care what what it consists is
3:15:34
John C Dvorak: not a lube. Okay. It's a rust and corrosion
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protection product which isn't waterproof lubrication, but it's
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rust and corrosion protection. And it's something everybody
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needs in their in their arsenal. Everybody
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Adam Curry: needs a t nine
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John C Dvorak: is called t nine.
3:15:53
Adam Curry: That's a capital T number nine is that it?
3:15:56
John C Dvorak: Capital T dash nine. All right, well, that
3:15:59
Adam Curry: is a wonderful tip. Just lube up with John Cena for
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the day.
3:16:07
Unknown: Thanks for listening.
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Y'all come back now you hear
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Adam Curry: man? Oh man. Oh man.
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Adam Curry: Hey, we got a ton of great end of show mixes of this
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dynamite long show wasn't already good enough for you. Sir
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Chris Wilson returns with a vengeance. He's back everybody
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with a great end of show makes gruff who you just heard with
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his London meetup promo. So he's in the UK. And so we've got
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Australia for Sir Chris. We've got UK for Guelph. We've got
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China Professor J. Jones. And then we have Judd. I don't even
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know where Judds from Judd who brings us a nice little guitar.
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Did he for sweet Willie Brown. Yes, they are. The end of show
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mixes are awesome. Coming up next on the stream. I don't even
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know what we have next. I don't know. It'll be something good.
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I'm sorry. I don't have anything to promote. You just have to
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take my word for coming to you from the heartland Texas Hill
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Country right here in FEMA Region number six in the
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morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain
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I'm John C. Dvorak. Remember
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Adam Curry: us at no agenda. donations.com stepping up
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everybody. Thank you so much until Sunday, adios Mufasa who
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up and such you see real Joe Biden or whatever. Standing next
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to Jill. She comes up with above his shoulders. And then this guy
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we're just gonna call daddy long legs
3:17:54
John C Dvorak: do I think that moniker is good? Because the
3:17:56
thing that's most notable has really long legs.
3:18:01
Unknown: Legs
3:18:04
he's taller than Joe Biden
3:18:08
he's got legs
3:18:16
too tall for Joe one wonder who they use
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he ain't that slow he hasn't started drooling
3:18:46
he's got a mask
3:18:49
made by the CIA
3:18:54
it's got a lab if Joe is passed away they use AI as a
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conversation
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nation
3:19:16
where are they?
3:19:20
Oh Joey. He's dying.
3:19:30
Adam Curry: About this is the first most obvious thing. Joe is
3:19:35
is not doing well. Health wise. By the way someone sends him an
3:19:38
interesting note saying those bruises on his face probably
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from a hospital CPAP mask. We also like to thank our executive
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Unknown: Whatever gets you to a nice Rice is rice to give your
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value chain your why Assad rice it's nice to get you nice ya
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know whatever gets you to a nice is all rice is all rice strategy
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and size. It's all rights it's all rights
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Adam Curry: as you know we can't do advertising or anything else
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whatever you can afford whatever you find is the value that you
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receive from the show is good with us. That's always good with
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us.
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Unknown: It's no
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good with us. Sadness. They call them a douchebag call give them
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some value $4 A month have
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achieved knighthood.
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Adam Curry: That's less than a latte. Isn't it?
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Unknown: Cool nowadays? Yeah.
3:21:25
John C Dvorak: When I was a kid, it was a nickel. Listen to what
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Sasaki
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Adam Curry: says.
3:21:30
Unknown: That's the Vice President of the United States.
3:21:31
Kamala Harris is unqualified to be president on her own merits.
3:21:35
And for the last three and a half years. She has been rice
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President of the United States for rice rice. Straight up
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disinformation.
3:21:45
rice rice,
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Adam Curry: rice president.
3:21:49
Unknown: Right, right.
3:21:50
Adam Curry: She says rice President of the United States,
3:21:53
Unknown: right.
3:21:55
Adam Curry: Listen to her. Do you not hear this? That's good
3:22:00
show material right there.
3:22:02
Unknown: rice rice
3:22:03
is straight up disinformation.
3:22:04
But that's good. Right.
3:22:07
And for the last three and a half years has been rice
3:22:13
President of the United States.
3:22:16
John C Dvorak: There's no way she didn't say rice and steaks.
3:22:20
Adam Curry: That's good show material right there. She says
3:22:23
rice President of the United States.
3:22:26
Unknown: Nine is San Francisco. Public all the town to go down
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there. Well, your best is there. Kamala and Willie Brown. Now
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Willie got her nose open. Then about six months three cops get
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promoted and get the BMW most free. Sweet, sweet Willie Brown,
3:22:52
sweetest man in the whole dang town. tweeted that a doughnut
3:22:56
hole. Black and attitude. anko now we're only a little shady.
3:23:02
investigated by the FBI. Well, he gave here was real good job.
3:23:08
Ooh, that's real real nice. He got a job go lead Chevrolet
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Corvette voted best dress and San Francisco. Kamala Harris the
3:23:18
parent while married to another sweet sweet Willie Brown,
3:23:25
sweetest man and the whole day down sweeter that doughnut hole.
3:23:30
blacker than a cold. Sweet, sweet Willie Brown. Sweet is man
3:23:37
in the whole dang town tweeted that a doughnut hole blacker
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than today. code.org/and
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Thanks so much, guys. Bye
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