0:00
John C Dvorak: It's just blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
0:03
Unknown: Adam curry.
0:04
John C Dvorak,
0:06
Adam Curry: 2024, this is your
award winning gimbal nation
0:08
media assassination episode
1702.
0:11
Unknown: This is no agenda.
We're unedited by CBS, and we're
0:17
Adam Curry: broadcasting live
from the heart of the Texas new
0:19
country here in FEMA reach
number six in the morning.
0:23
Everybody. I'm Adam curry
0:24
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley, where we advise
0:27
you to stop using the word
triage. I'm Johnson Dvorak
0:33
Buzzkill.
0:36
Adam Curry: I think we should
use that all the time during our
0:38
show. We're triaging all the
clips we got, triaging all the
0:42
boots on the ground, so we can
make sure we get all the right
0:44
stuff out there. Triaging. I
kind of like it.
0:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So I was
watching one of the Fox shows,
0:54
the fox, fox morning chatterbox.
They like to say triage for
0:58
Adam Curry: everything. The Fox
chatterbox. There you go. That's
1:01
a good one. The Fox chatterbox,
yeah, the triage. So it seems to
1:05
me like, okay, it sucks, but I
think the weather people kind of
1:11
got it all wrong. Wasn't
everyone supposed to be dead and
1:15
destroyed and everything swept
away and the storm surge drowned
1:19
everybody. Yet they forgot to
predict the tornadoes. 126 of
1:25
them, to be exact. Where was
that prediction? I didn't hear
1:30
anyone Well, it
1:31
John C Dvorak: matters not they
can predict the climate, but
1:33
they can't predict this. Yeah,
happens the next day. Yeah, of
1:39
course. We're
1:40
Adam Curry: we are, of course,
by
1:40
John C Dvorak: the way, I want
to say that Santis, DeSantis,
1:44
DeSantis De Santis, I was
watching his entire press
1:49
conference. This guy really is a
good governor. Oh yeah. He just
1:53
seems to be on top of
everything. He's got the facts
1:56
in front of him. He goes on and
on and on. He's got all kinds of
1:58
details. He's smart enough to do
stuff in advance. And the thing
2:03
that impressed me most, most was
a couple of days ago, when he
2:06
says, you know, we're, we're
closing all the toll booths on
2:09
all this expressway so people
can get out of there time to
2:11
stop and pay five bucks to get
through. Yeah, that makes sense.
2:15
He said, just one thing after
another, if it wasn't for that
2:18
whiny voice of his
2:21
Adam Curry: when, and even
though he's not wearing the
2:23
white boots, you still can't get
that out of your head. You still
2:26
see him with the white boots.
Hard to hard to visualize him
2:29
without those
2:30
John C Dvorak: competency and
it's just there's a combination
2:33
of things. But he's definitely a
governor you'd like to have as a
2:36
governor,
2:36
Adam Curry: yes, but every I
mean, we have lots of friends
2:39
and lots of course, there's lots
of producers in in Florida, and
2:44
the reporting was just freaking
everybody out. It was, it was,
2:47
and of course, it's not great.
There's no doubt, no doubt
2:50
there's a problem. But it's not
at all the destruction that we
2:54
were sold. I feel gypped the
tornadoes. That's the thing that
2:59
got me though. What? Not a
single mention of that. And then
3:03
these were not like little
tornadoes. These were big
3:06
twisters just appeared out of
nowhere, blowing
3:09
John C Dvorak: up stuff left and
right. Yeah, yeah, the funny.
3:13
And there was mentioned that,
you know, in Florida, where they
3:16
do have tornadoes on occasion,
especially with some
3:19
accompanying some hurricanes,
you can't build tornado shelters
3:23
because the water table is so
high. No, you can't. It's like,
3:26
you know, the water table is
right under the house. So
3:30
Adam Curry: of course, we hope
everyone's okay and that the
3:33
damage isn't too bad. We we
won't know, really, for a little
3:38
bit, but the they had no good
reports. They didn't have anyone
3:41
blowing over from the wind. The
wind didn't even seem, I mean,
3:45
you know, I've been doing a
little because, oh man,
3:49
John C Dvorak: by the way, uh,
Cooper, uh, pooper got, yeah,
3:55
pooper, yeah. He was on CNN. He
got hit by debris. It was, it's
4:01
a piece of styrofoam hit him,
and it was like a roll of
4:03
disaster. Oh, so
4:06
Adam Curry: I don't want to make
light of it, because, you know,
4:08
if you're, if your house is
flooded,
4:10
John C Dvorak: it sucks, yeah,
or even gone, if,
4:13
Adam Curry: if it's gone, that's
what seemed the wind damage
4:16
seemed to be pretty minimal. I
mean, just, I
4:18
John C Dvorak: don't think so.
Oh, the wind damage was all the
4:22
damage, but
4:23
Adam Curry: it was, well, here's
the one that made me kind of
4:25
smile and
4:26
Unknown: take a look at this
video just into the newsroom
4:29
from Tropicana Field in St
Petersburg, where the stadium's
4:33
rooftop has literally been torn
apart by the winds from
4:37
Hurricane Milton. You may
remember Tropicana Field was
4:40
transformed into a shelter for
first responders ahead of the
4:44
big storm.
4:45
Adam Curry: So it's a stadium
with a vinyl roof where a team
4:49
plays that no one cares about,
but that was the news that was a
4:55
very flimsy roof looked just
like vinyl you. It
5:00
Unknown: was, yeah. So, okay,
just
5:02
John C Dvorak: a coded. It was
just a it wasn't really, it was
5:05
more of a balloon roof,
5:07
Adam Curry: yeah. So, yeah, of
course, the
5:13
John C Dvorak: I will say, by
the I will say, the sound really
5:15
does stink.
5:16
Adam Curry: What do you mean
what you're hearing?
5:19
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's not
like it's, I don't know what the
5:21
chat room thinks, but it's not
like it I can't understand you.
5:25
It's just like a lousy phone
connection.
5:28
Adam Curry: Oh, that's
interesting. No, it sounds good
5:30
for everyone there. See, is
there? Let me see, I want to
5:35
make sure, oh, speech optimized.
We don't want that. We want
5:38
music optimized. Hold
5:39
Unknown: on a second. Let
5:40
Adam Curry: me see if that'll
break
5:41
John C Dvorak: every musical
tones,
5:44
Adam Curry: yes, for my musical
stylings, John, for my musical
5:48
styling styling.
5:49
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry, yeah,
maybe,
5:51
Adam Curry: maybe that's better.
I don't know, but it's that's
5:54
what you're hearing is not what
was what's recording. So, of
5:57
course, I can't get away from
they modified the weather. They
6:04
seeded the clouds, they steered
it that way.
6:08
John C Dvorak: Just had a good
commentary on this, too. I wish
6:11
I had clipped it. It would came
in late. It was this morning. He
6:15
said, he says this is he's
basically said. He says both. He
6:20
did a good job of balancing it,
because he condemned the idea
6:23
that they're changing the
weather, because it's hurricane
6:25
season. So this happens all the
time. The worst hurricane, he
6:28
points out, was in on late the
famous Labor Day hurricane of
6:33
the 1930s which was worse than
anything. And he says, this is
6:36
hurricane seasons, Hurricane
weather. And you get these
6:40
hurricanes, as he says, and but
it's not just the left, the
6:44
right, not mentioning Marjorie,
Taylor Greene, he says it's also
6:48
the left who blames everything
on fossil fuels. So he did a
6:52
really good balancing act. This
guy is very talented governor.
6:58
Adam Curry: Well, there was a so
I have a couple of clips because
7:01
it was worth playing. Since
Biden, they rolled Biden out.
7:04
This may have been the real
Biden. You can't tell when he's
7:08
if he's not standing up. It's
hard to see if I can't see the
7:11
back of his head. I don't know
if it's Biden or daddy long
7:13
legs, but he came out and slurs
something out alive.
7:17
Unknown: There's simply no place
for this to happen. Former
7:21
President Trump has led the
onslaught of lies. Sessions have
7:26
been made that property is being
confiscated. That's simply not
7:29
true. They're saying people
impacted by these terms will
7:33
receive $750 in cash and no
more. That's simply not true.
7:38
The money is needed for this
crisis is being diverted to
7:43
migrants. What a ridiculous
thing to say. Now the claims are
7:49
getting even more bizarre.
Congressman Marjorie, Taylor
7:52
Greene, Congresswoman Georgia,
federal government is literally
7:56
controlling the weather,
controlling the weather. It's
7:59
beyond ridiculous. It's got to
stop moments like this. There
8:04
are no red or blue states.
There's one United States of
8:07
America where neighbors are
helping neighbors, volunteers
8:11
and first responders are risking
everything, including their own
8:14
lives, to help their fellow
Americans.
8:17
Adam Curry: Jeff, so that was a
very that was real stately
8:20
there. Joe and MSNBC really ran
with this ball. And thank
8:27
goodness we're connecting this
to climate change. I mean, it
8:31
took they didn't do, I've got
clips. They didn't do it during
8:35
John C Dvorak: Helene, but oh
no, they did it big time on this
8:38
one. Yeah. So I was just start
8:40
Adam Curry: with a few, and then
I'll do a few Chris Hayes clips,
8:43
because, man, he was hot over
there on MSNBC. Hurricane
8:47
Helene,
8:48
John C Dvorak: I thought you
were going to say, thank God for
8:50
MSNBC, because nobody listens to
it. Well,
8:54
Adam Curry: no. I mean, they
need us. They need us to get to
8:57
any listenership. And here you
go
8:59
Unknown: now. Hurricane Helene
just showed us how this
9:02
phenomenon is wreaking havoc,
even in areas previously thought
9:05
to be safe from these kinds of
storms, tucked away deep in the
9:10
Blue Ridge Mountains, Asheville,
North Carolina, was considered a
9:13
little slice of paradise. Some
called it a climate Haven,
9:17
suggesting it was immune to
extreme weather.
9:20
Adam Curry: Now, I don't know
where MSNBC got this idea from,
9:24
what? Because there was a huge
there was a equally large storm
9:29
in 1916 there was one as as
recent as 2014 what so. But then
9:35
they have this like this. This
footage of birds chirping and
9:38
oh, it's a haven. We're safe
here, huh?
9:42
Unknown: But last week that
paradise turned out to be an
9:45
illusion. Oh, my God, battering
the area for days. Stop
9:49
John C Dvorak: a second. Stop.
Stop the I, you know, this is an
9:53
interesting form of reporting,
where you create a false
9:56
scenario, yeah, and then you
report. On it, free, creative,
10:03
classic, this is what these guys
do. They should be ashamed of
10:07
themselves at NBC News, no,
10:10
Adam Curry: I think they're
doing a great job. This is
10:12
they're doing exactly what
they're paid to do, to promote
10:15
climate change and at the same
time discredit Trump and anyone
10:19
else who's in his camp, ripping
apart
10:21
Unknown: homes, washing out
roads, toppling trees and
10:24
cutting off entire towns. New
research out this week says
10:28
there is strong evidence human
driven climate change
10:31
strengthened Helene's
destructive power. It made the
10:35
storms
10:35
Adam Curry: strong evidence
Helene strengthened,
10:39
strengthened by human made
climate change, so just
10:42
strengthened it it's a
multiplier, a force multiplier.
10:46
Force multiplier term is rapid
intensification. We'll get to
10:50
that human
10:50
Unknown: driven climate change
strength into Lean's destructive
10:53
power. One study saying it made
the storms, rainfall up to 20%
10:57
heavier, 28 winds 7% stronger.
Seeing
11:01
these events that are boosted by
climate change, stronger,
11:06
wetter, lasting longer. Another
report
11:09
found that a warmer climate led
to 50% more rain over parts of
11:14
the Carolinas and Georgia than
would have been expected. You
11:17
know,
11:18
Adam Curry: is just as a little
entremond clip here. So it's
11:22
stronger, it's wetter. PBS had
this to say about last year and
11:26
2023
11:27
Unknown: was the driest year for
the world's rivers in more than
11:30
three decades.
11:31
Adam Curry: I mean, make up your
mind. Is it going to be wetter
11:34
or is it going to be drier? I
mean, they can't seem to figure
11:38
out what it's
11:38
John C Dvorak: going to be.
Unfortunately, there's no
11:40
coordinated yeah, there's no
11:42
Adam Curry: messaging, no
central command,
11:44
John C Dvorak: there's no
exactly they set that up. Yeah,
11:47
we wouldn't have these issues.
Curry
11:49
Adam Curry: Dvorak Consulting
Group. We're available. Do it.
11:52
We're available. We're
available. All right, so let's
11:54
just face the fact climate to
climate change is it's, it's
11:57
responsible for everything.
Storms
11:59
Unknown: like Killeen and what
we expect to come from Milton
12:01
are exactly, precisely what
experts have been screaming
12:04
about for decades now, as John
Morales, Nicole Wallace, it is
12:08
why he got so emotional over
last night's forecast. When I
12:12
saw 50 millibars in 10 hours, I
just broke down with a mixture
12:16
of empathy, angst over these
increasing extreme weather
12:21
events, and also frustration,
because for over 20 years, I've
12:25
been trying to communicate on on
what would be coming if we did
12:29
not check the injection of
greenhouse gasses into the
12:34
atmosphere. And well, here we
are, and it's not going to get
12:38
any better. This guy
12:39
Adam Curry: was crying on the
air. I
12:41
John C Dvorak: have, you know,
this is funny. You have that
12:44
clip from from Chris Hayes,
because in my little series of
12:48
hurricane clips, it's included
exactly this, well, not exactly,
12:53
but pretty much the same clip,
only. He's crying more from NPR,
12:58
the same guy. This is the
coordinated effort. Do
13:01
Adam Curry: you know which clip
that is? Can we play that real
13:03
quick?
13:04
John C Dvorak: I'd rather play
the whole series. All
13:05
Adam Curry: right, all right.
I'll get through this.
13:07
Unknown: So we are now preparing
for the second major climate
13:10
change fueled hurricane in two
weeks, which could put a
13:12
dangerous strain on federal
resources. Climate fueled New
13:16
York Times reports the Federal
Emergency Management Agency is
13:19
running out of staff to deal
with the potential devastation
13:22
of Hurricane. No as of Monday
morning, just 9% of FEMA
13:25
personnel were available to
respond to hurricane or other
13:28
disasters. While FEMA says it is
well equipped to handle the
13:31
strains, it is a reminder the
challenge of more frequent
13:35
natural disasters the times.
What did
13:39
John C Dvorak: he say, he said
9% responded to the to one of
13:44
their was it? Helene, yes. Well,
I thought they were like all,
13:49
all hands on deck, yeah.
13:50
Adam Curry: But the rest is at
the border, helping people at
13:54
the border, getting them into
hotels. As
13:56
Unknown: of Monday morning, just
9% of FEMA personnel were
13:58
available to respond. Oh, that
was available. Where's that
14:01
John C Dvorak: 90% where the
other 91
14:05
Adam Curry: that must be in
14:06
John C Dvorak: western 1000s and
1000s of people? Well, I
14:09
Adam Curry: hope they're in
western North Carolina, but they
14:12
should have figured out anyway,
that's just continue the
14:15
Unknown: hurricane or other
disasters. Now, while FEMA says
14:17
it is well equipped to handle
the strains, it is reminder the
14:21
challenge of more frequent
natural disasters. The Times
14:24
noting that FEMA is also
responding to flooding and land
14:27
signs in Vermont, tornadoes in
Kansas, the aftermath of
14:30
Tropical Storm Debbie in New
York and Georgia and the watch
14:33
fire in Arizona. And those are
just disasters that were
14:35
declared the past two weeks.
Okay, so
14:37
Adam Curry: now Chris gets Wait.
14:38
John C Dvorak: I want to point
out. I want you to remember that
14:41
he said more frequent, more
free, because I in my series of
14:45
clips, I got a little
contradiction in here. Good,
14:48
good.
14:49
Adam Curry: So now Chris Hayes
gets into some math, which is
14:54
just astounding. I'm not a
climate scientist, nor is he
14:59
remember.
15:00
Unknown: What I'm telling you
right now, what we're looking at
15:02
right now in the last week, what
we're preparing for Milton. This
15:05
is what we are now facing with
global average temperatures a
15:08
little over one degree Celsius
higher than the pre Industrial
15:11
Average. Okay, one that's one 1%
imagine what it will look like
15:14
when we reach two degrees, twice
as bad. Oh, so
15:17
Adam Curry: if it's two degrees,
then it'll be twice as bad, or
15:20
Unknown: three or four, that is
the world. It'll be
15:23
Adam Curry: four times as bad if
15:25
John C Dvorak: it was. So let's
see it goes from, let's say, one
15:29
degree higher, which would be a
percent. What a point? If 5%
15:33
some small percentage, but
somehow it's going to be twice
15:36
as bad. It's
15:36
Adam Curry: going to double. And
if it's three degrees, work
15:39
exactly, exactly. It's fake
news, or three
15:43
Unknown: or four. That is the
world Donald Trump would push,
15:47
not that he cares. He thinks it
would be good for real estate
15:53
values.
15:53
When I hear these people talking
about global warming, that's the
15:57
global warming you have to worry
about, not that the ocean is
15:59
going to rise in 400 years, an
eighth of an inch, and you'll
16:03
have more seafront property,
right? If that happens, I said,
16:06
is that good or bad? I said,
Isn't that a good thing? If I
16:10
have a little property on the
ocean, I have a little bit more
16:12
property. I have a little bit
more ocean. Okay,
16:14
every time we play this clip, we
just got to stop for one second.
16:18
Think about that for give it 10
seconds of your brain power.
16:21
Okay, if the oceans rise, do you
have more beachfront property?
16:26
Does that make sense? The oceans
rise? Do more beachfront or let
16:29
you have less?
16:30
Adam Curry: You said more ocean.
Anyway, that so at least we know
16:34
it's all Donald Trump's fault in
Donald Trump's and I will play
16:38
this last clip, and then we'll,
we'll play your clips, and then
16:41
I'll come back to some of the
conspiracy theories. And this
16:44
is, this has got to be my
favorites. Now,
16:46
Unknown: we've known for decades
our planet is warming, that we
16:48
would start seeing the brutal
effects, but conservatives
16:50
running so deep in their denial,
they're flailing around for
16:53
anyone or anything else to
blame. Republican Congressman
16:56
Marjorie Taylor Greene, who is
now like a big mover and shaker
16:58
in the Republican Party, is
promoting a bizarre conspiracy
17:03
theory about a mysterious day.
You can imagine who that is.
17:07
Adam Curry: So on the screen
they have her tweet which says,
17:09
yes, they can control the
weather. The weather always
17:12
remember that. So that's what
she said. And I think we can
17:16
prove that that is probably
true, not that this was the
17:21
case, but that's the tweet
17:23
Unknown: controlling the
weather, suggesting that they
17:25
are sending hurricanes to
Republican areas to impact the
17:28
election, like someone is
sitting at some computer
17:30
somewhere pressing hurricane.
It's not just her. She's now
17:34
being amplified by right wing
media and the Republican nominee
17:37
himself, Chris, Chris decaf has
the government figured out how
17:41
to build a storm into a super
storm
17:43
that will destroy everything
that's
17:45
passed, and then how to aim it.
Right now, he's
17:47
Adam Curry: just playing some
rando guys from I don't know,
17:50
YouTube or whatever, who are
just talking crap where they
17:54
Unknown: want to aim it. It just
happens to miss South Florida
17:58
while the Democrats live.
Something
18:00
strange is going on. These
18:02
are Trump
18:03
counties.
18:04
John C Dvorak: Some actors to do
stuff like, this
18:06
Adam Curry: is great. This
18:07
John C Dvorak: is great.
18:08
Unknown: Something strange is
going on. These are Trump
18:11
John C Dvorak: counties. And
don't tell me for a second.
18:14
Don't tell me for a second that
what we're not seeing is a
18:16
massive government push, voter
suppression
18:20
Unknown: operation.
18:21
You know, it's largely a
Republican area. Some people say
18:24
they did it for that reason. I
don't even think they're that
18:27
bad, but they probably made
random,
18:29
Adam Curry: random clip, random
clip, making it sound like Trump
18:34
is talking about some weather
modification, which is not they
18:38
are.
18:38
Unknown: They say they're
sending the storms they are
18:40
sending the storms. Tom Trump's
running mate, Janie Vance, found
18:44
a way to get in on it too.
Blaming it on immigrants,
18:46
you have FEMA, which is there
for disaster relief for American
18:49
citizens after a terrible storm
being deployed repeatedly to
18:53
deal with Kamala Harris' wide
open border and the migrant
18:56
invasion that it's caused. That
lack of focus on their core
19:00
mission, that distraction and
focusing instead on illegal
19:03
immigrants, I guarantee that it
has made the disaster response
19:06
worse.
19:07
Adam Curry: All right, so I want
to come back to those weight
19:09
theories.
19:10
John C Dvorak: What did he did?
He was that played on his show.
19:15
Adam Curry: That was van, that
last
19:16
John C Dvorak: part of the tip,
yeah,
19:17
Unknown: he played that.
19:19
That's dumb.
19:22
John C Dvorak: I'm saying that
because he's trying to build a
19:24
case, and then he throws
something out there which
19:26
actually is reasonable, yes, and
if I'm listening to so that's
19:30
interesting. I mean that this
is, these guys don't even know
19:33
how to do this, right? All
right. So
19:35
Adam Curry: I want to come back
to the weather modification and
19:38
conspiracy theories, but first,
let's get into your clips before
19:41
we drift. Yeah, let's
19:42
John C Dvorak: get these out of
the way. Yeah. This is a, this
19:43
is a series that's on NPR. This
is part of a long presentation
19:47
on hurricane overview, and it
brings in everything we need
19:51
that. It starts with Hurricane
overview, N O, A, A,
19:55
Unknown: the damage hurricane
Milton could cause is chilling,
19:58
but maybe it shouldn't be
surprising. Julie
20:00
is looking to be an
extraordinary one in a number of
20:04
ways. That
20:05
was Rick spinrad, head of the
National Oceanic and Atmospheric
20:09
Administration, last May,
rolling out the federal agency's
20:12
annual hurricane outlook, NOAA
20:14
is predicting an above average
2024 Atlantic hurricane season.
20:19
Of note, the forecast for named
storms, hurricanes and major
20:24
hurricanes, is the highest NOAA
has ever issued for the May
20:28
outlook. One
20:30
big reason for that record
breaking hurricane forecast,
20:33
record breaking hot water
temperatures in the Atlantic
20:36
Ocean and the Gulf of Mexico.
Now, the number of hurricanes
20:40
this year has not yet broken
records, but the intensity of
20:44
some of the storms has been
breathtaking.
20:46
It's just an incredible,
incredible, incredible
20:49
hurricane.
20:51
Adam Curry: Incredible,
incredible, really, that sounded
20:55
like a Dvorak repeats. No
sweetening. Oh, interesting.
21:00
John C Dvorak: All right, he
said that. All right. So that
21:02
goes on. This is like they're
trying to build a case for. What
21:05
do you think you're going to
build a case for? And it comes
21:08
up right away. I did early in
the clippage
21:11
Unknown: that hot water in the
Gulf allows storms to intensify
21:15
at unbelievable speeds, as
Hurricane Milton did on Monday
21:18
afternoon. A fact that Move
Veteran Florida meteorologist
21:22
John Morales nearly to tears,
21:24
he has dropped 50 millibars in
10 hours. I apologize, this is
21:32
just
21:34
horrific. Later in
21:36
that same report, Morales cited
those hot ocean temperatures and
21:39
explained where they came from.
21:41
You know, what's driving that? I
don't need to tell you, global
21:44
warming, climate change leading
to this and becoming an
21:47
increasing threat. You know,
21:49
Adam Curry: it's interesting.
You know, Tina lived in Florida
21:52
for 15 years, lived through a
number of hurricanes. And I
21:55
said, was the millibar? Was the
pressure ever an issue? Says, I
22:00
don't know anything about that.
No one ever talked about
22:02
millibars. It's always been the
wind speed. This seems to be a
22:06
new metric they're pulling in.
22:09
John C Dvorak: That's
interesting. You're right,
22:10
because I've noticed it before.
Now I think what's interesting,
22:13
also interesting, I hate to
overuse that word, but is this
22:17
guy's in tears. He's obviously
an emotional wreck. Probably
22:20
somebody shouldn't trust with
any with your children or guns,
22:24
or guns, definitely no guns with
that guy, red flag. And so you
22:30
so he so this is the guy that go
goes right to climate change. So
22:34
he's an unstable person. Now
he's going talking about climate
22:37
change. This is like, Okay, I'm
not gonna even, I shouldn't even
22:41
be listening to this guy if he
can't objectively report on the
22:44
news without crying about it.
22:47
Adam Curry: Well, he was doing
his job. He's an actor.
22:49
Unknown: NPR climate editor
Rachel waldholtz has been
22:52
looking into how a warming
planet contributes to these
22:55
storms and what climate change
could mean for the future of
22:58
catastrophic weather events. Hi
Rachel, hi. Ari, first. Helene,
23:02
now Milton, are these two
massive hurricanes in just about
23:06
two weeks, evidence that we are
seeing more frequent storm
23:10
activity than in the past. So
23:12
actually, no, no,
23:13
Adam Curry: no, you better come
up with something better than
23:15
that. So
23:17
John C Dvorak: that's why I
wanted to mention call back to
23:20
Chris Hayes saying they're more
frequent. Yeah,
23:22
Adam Curry: he's full of crap.
23:24
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's
totally full of crap.
23:26
Adam Curry: The numbers are
there. Everyone can see the
23:28
numbers. There's just been less
of them certainly this year.
23:33
John C Dvorak: So let's go.
Okay, so onward to four.
23:35
Unknown: We haven't seen an
increase in the number of
23:37
hurricanes hitting the US, but
climate change is making many
23:41
storms more intense, so more
powerful with way more rain,
23:45
more dangerous storm surge, more
flooding. And so while the total
23:48
number of hurricanes isn't
increasing, dangerous storms are
23:52
becoming more common, and that
can definitely make it feel like
23:55
we're getting more overall. So
23:57
let's get to the climate change
piece of this. We know that a
23:59
warming planet and includes
warming oceans. Explain why
24:04
warming oceans helped a storm
like Milton explode into a
24:08
category five as it moved across
the Gulf before eventually
24:12
weakening. Yeah,
24:13
Adam Curry: yes, exploded before
it actually got to landfall, and
24:17
it was a three actually crapped
24:19
John C Dvorak: out. Yeah, it
did.
24:20
Adam Curry: It did
24:21
John C Dvorak: so. So we have
this, this narrative going on,
24:26
and it's like, right in the
middle of it, you have to do a
24:31
call back to climate isn't
weather? Yes, correct. They
24:37
pounded it into us. Climate
isn't weather, or weather is
24:41
weather
24:41
Adam Curry: isn't climate, I
think was the exact phrase.
24:45
John C Dvorak: Either one, yes,
it's the same thing. But the
24:48
point is, is that they'd always
bring that out when it was
24:51
freezing cold. We had this, you
know, yeah, yeah, it was really
24:54
cold. No, no, no, no. It's got
nothing to do with it. But now
24:56
there's a little disaster going
on. Yes, exactly. Oh, it's a.
25:00
This is what's causing it. Okay?
So, so they go on with a before
25:04
the five they go on this. I put
the word skip in there because I
25:08
skipped over a whole long
lecture about how the hot water
25:14
boy pushes up into the hurricane
and goes on and on and on about
25:18
this. And so did we end up with
this after, after listening to
25:22
that for five minutes, we go to
this. Okay,
25:24
Unknown: so warm oceans
translate to stronger storms.
25:27
But there's another element
here, which is that climate
25:30
change adds to sea level rise,
which can create a bigger storm
25:35
surge, right? Explain that?
Yeah,
25:37
so climate change is driving
rising sea levels, and some of
25:40
the fastest rates of sea level
rise in the world actually are
25:44
along the Gulf Coast. So that's
driven by melting ice on land,
25:48
like the Greenland ice sheet,
but also as water.
25:53
Adam Curry: So let me understand
so the ice sheet is melting, and
25:57
therefore the water in the Gulf
gets warmer. In the Gulf, in the
26:00
Gulf gets warmer from the
melting ice goes up.
26:04
John C Dvorak: Yeah, of course
it
26:05
Unknown: does. That's driven by
melting ice on land like the
26:07
Greenland ice sheet. But the
thing she said, got warmer. Let
26:10
me see driving rising sea
levels. And some of the fastest
26:14
rates of sea level rise in the
world actually are along the
26:17
Gulf Coast.
26:18
Adam Curry: I can't believe I'm
not how come I don't have
26:20
beachfront property here in the
heart of Texas. I should. So
26:23
Unknown: that's driven by
melting ice on land like the
26:26
Greenland ice sheet. But also,
as water gets warmer, it
26:29
expands. So then when a storm
like Milton comes along, driving
26:33
this huge wall of water in front
of it, and water levels are
26:36
already higher than they used to
be, that's a recipe for really
26:40
catastrophic storm surge. And
right now we're seeing
26:42
predictions of 15 feet of storm
surge in some places.
26:46
Adam Curry: I don't think it
reaches. Doesn't water expand
26:48
John C Dvorak: when you freeze
it, yeah, yes, doesn't it? Yes,
26:52
yes.
26:54
Adam Curry: Why are you bringing
logic to the show stop. Sorry.
26:59
John C Dvorak: You know.
26:59
Adam Curry: So it turns out
they've also, so not only have
27:02
they added this, this new metric
of barometric pressure, and at
27:07
millibars, yes, in millibars,
not, not inches, which is
27:11
interesting, we do that in
millibars, things because it
27:13
looks bigger in millibars, you
know, instead of saying 29.9 so
27:20
millibars because then it's
like, oh, it's 900 millibars.
27:23
There seems to also have been an
interesting reshuffling of the
27:26
category with wind speeds. And I
was unaware of this, but we do
27:31
have the best producers in the
universe. So a category one
27:34
storm is wind speeds of 74 to 95
miles an hour. That's a 22 mile
27:42
per hour range. A category two
storm, however, is 96 to 110
27:49
miles per hour. That's a 15 mile
per hour range. Why? Why? I
27:55
don't understand why. Then we
have category three, which we
27:58
call a major storm, is 111
28:01
John C Dvorak: I'm asking
questions
28:04
Adam Curry: exactly which is a
111 to 129 mile per hour? That's
28:10
a 19 mile per hour range. And
then category four. Now this is
28:16
the interesting a category four
is anywhere from 130 to 156 so
28:22
now all of a sudden, that's a 27
mile per hour range. So it seems
28:29
like they're driving everything
into at least a cat four, and
28:32
then a cat five is anything over
157 so this is a reminds me a
28:39
little bit of the of the changes
they made to the Richter scale
28:43
and became the momentum scale
for earthquakes, whatever
28:46
John C Dvorak: it is now, you
28:47
Adam Curry: know, whatever it
is. So now we get into everybody
28:51
spinning up and spinning out,
including friends of mine, good
28:55
friends of mine, like, oh, this
was to disrupt the election, to
28:58
which I say, Okay, I love that,
by the way, North Carolina blue,
29:03
so, so that wasn't the
intention.
29:06
John C Dvorak: Democrat
governor. Yes, it's a blue
29:09
state.
29:10
Adam Curry: But then you do
Florida, like, okay, so what are
29:13
you really disrupting? We have
an electoral college, you know.
29:16
So it's not going to make any
difference, you know, if you do
29:20
it in Pennsylvania, and,
29:23
John C Dvorak: yeah, that's
George.
29:24
Adam Curry: Want to do it? Yeah,
that's just Michigan. Steer it
29:27
that way. Blow
29:29
John C Dvorak: up Michigan.
29:32
Adam Curry: So I have to just
spend a little bit on on these
29:35
theories of weather
modification, because there's,
29:37
you know, you can look at it
several different ways. French
29:40
24 dove right into it more
29:42
Unknown: broadly. Do we know?
Are there ways to try and
29:44
mitigate the dangers of
hurricanes? Well, actually,
29:47
scientists
29:47
have long searched for a way to
at least attenuate or even
29:50
prevent the formation of
hurricanes, or at least to try
29:52
to change their track. It
started after World War Two with
29:55
the project Cyrus, that was
financed by GE but also the US.
30:00
Army. And what they did is that
they projected dry ice straight
30:03
into the hurricane, thinking
that, by
30:05
Adam Curry: the way, is very
irritating. But in in France,
30:08
they don't say hurricane. They
say hurricane. For some reason,
30:11
hurricane, it
30:12
Unknown: was going to modify the
cloud envelope and change the
30:14
structure of the hurricane. And
they did, you know, observe
30:19
somewhat, somewhat of some
changes in the appearance of the
30:22
hurricane, but they couldn't
establish a very strong causal
30:25
effect. So then there was
another project that was a
30:28
little bit more known, called
the storm fury project. It
30:30
lasted for 20 years. It was
funded by the US government. And
30:33
here they did what we call cloud
seeding. So here they dumped
30:36
what we call silver iodide, so
these are salt crystals, and
30:40
once again, thinking that it
would modify the structure to
30:43
increase the condensation and
change the hurricane from
30:46
within. And they used it on
several hurricanes in the 60s.
30:50
Esther Bulla, Debbie ginger, at
first, the results were
30:55
encouraging, but then they
stopped once again, because
30:57
there wasn't a strong causal
effect. They couldn't say that
31:00
the these silver crystals were
really the reason why the
31:04
hurricane had changed trajectory
or intensity. And
31:06
there's another idea as well,
Julia, this was a really, really
31:09
rather creepy one. And this is
dropping an atomic bomb to blow
31:14
out in inverted commas, a newly
formed hurricane. Tell us about
31:17
this? Well, exactly.
31:18
Thank God they didn't use it. Of
course, this would have produced
31:21
radioactive fallout in a big
way, and, of course,
31:23
environmental issues, but they
did consider it okay.
31:25
Adam Curry: So there's been lots
of experiments, so it's no
31:28
wonder that people discuss these
things. And one of those
31:31
experiments actually veered the
hurricane, often in a wrong
31:34
direction. People got very angry
at the government. Now it
31:38
doesn't help that Lyndon
Johnson, President Lyndon
31:41
Johnson was quite jitty about
the whole concept,
31:46
Unknown: the foundation for the
development of a weather
31:48
satellite
31:51
that will permit man to
determine the world's
31:56
cloud labor and
31:59
ultimately to control the
32:04
weather, and he who controls
32:06
John C Dvorak: the weather will
control the world. Yeah, He who
32:08
controls the weather to bring
back classic. It's a classic.
32:10
And you, you know, you listen to
the commentators, nobody. What
32:15
you're doing right now is should
have been done by every by Fox,
32:19
for example. You were more
interested in using the word
32:22
triage instead of
32:24
Adam Curry: prioritizing. And it
also doesn't help that CIA
32:28
Director John O Brennan also
kind of alluded to this, as
32:33
Unknown: promising as it may be,
moving forward on essay
32:35
Adam Curry: he's going to talk
about stratospheric. S was it s
32:40
Sai, Stratos, Stratospheric
Aerosol injection, promising
32:45
Unknown: as it may be, moving
forward on sai would also raise
32:48
a number of challenges for our
government and for the
32:50
international community. On the
technical side, greenhouse gas
32:54
emission reductions would still
have to accompany sai to address
32:58
other climate change effects
such as ocean acidification,
33:02
because sai alone would not
remove greenhouse gasses from
33:05
the atmosphere. On the
geopolitical side, the
33:09
technology's potential to alter
weather patterns and benefit
33:13
certain regions of the world at
the expense of other regions
33:16
could trigger sharp opposition
by some nations. Others might
33:21
seize on sai benefits and back
away from their commitment to
33:24
carbon dioxide reductions, and
as with other breakthrough
33:28
technologies, global norms and
standards are lacking to guide
33:31
the deployment and
implementation of Sai and other
33:35
geoengineering initiatives. I
could go on and on and on and on
33:40
about the things that fascinate
me? Yeah,
33:42
Adam Curry: of course it
fascinates him, because weather
33:44
modification, you can rule the
world. So this is where these
33:48
conspiracies come from. And we
have a we have a
33:53
John C Dvorak: just to defend
Marjorie Taylor Greene, she
33:56
didn't say anything wrong.
33:57
Adam Curry: She didn't it was a
very short tweet, and I think
34:00
she was spot on. It's
inflammatory, you know, it's,
34:04
it's what Marjorie Taylor,
34:07
John C Dvorak: that's what she
does. That's what
34:09
Adam Curry: she does. We have
job. We have a knight who is
34:12
very high up in and he wants to
remain anonymous, I have to say
34:17
carefully, in one of the larger
American weather modification
34:22
associations. And so he has a
lot of background. I checked him
34:27
out, so I can't, I can't talk
about him per se. But he says,
34:34
look, look. He said, There is no
evidence that there was any
34:40
weather modification done in
these two instances, I'm just
34:44
going to take him at his word,
and that's sure he's correct,
34:47
and yes, and he checks out, and
I can't believe that they don't
34:51
have someone like him on Fox and
Friends. No. Instead, we have to
34:56
deal with insane things, and
whenever. Where I get an eight
35:00
second clip, I'm like, wait a
minute, and even just listening
35:05
to this clip, because it was
only audio, I knew right away
35:08
that this was not the director
of FEMA. We
35:12
Unknown: plan to execute between
70 and 80 we plan to evacuate
35:17
between 70 and 80,000 people.
35:20
Adam Curry: So first of all, I
think the director of FEMA, or
35:22
the administrator is a woman. So
this is a black guy. It's Lloyd
35:27
Austin from 2021 and I remember
this because somebody sent you
35:31
this clip. Oh, it's all over.
You got the girls going like,
35:36
oh, is this the truth? Wanting
to come out? Oh, yeah, there's
35:40
Unknown: exceeded all
expectations. Yeah, that's
35:42
Lloyd, Austin. It's Austin. We
plan to execute between 70 and
35:47
80. We plan to evacuate between
70 and 80,000 people.
35:52
Adam Curry: So it's like, oh,
okay, please. This is a very old
35:56
clip, and it goes around and
people like, they're going to
35:58
execute people the other, the
other one that really got me,
36:02
yeah, the one that really got, I
think is fabulous, is now this,
36:07
this was people were getting mad
at me about this, because I was,
36:11
look, I have experience,
36:12
John C Dvorak: and if you're
gonna get mad, they should get
36:14
mad at you, yes, oh, they never
36:15
Adam Curry: get mad at you. They
should. You need to exalt the
36:22
older men? Yes. So this is a
clip of North Carolina, and it
36:27
only had titles over it, and it
had this really ominous music.
36:32
I'll play it with a Blackhawk
helicopter, and it would say,
36:37
Oh, look at them. It's unmarked.
They're coming over here.
36:40
They're rotor washing us. And so
I get emails from people I
36:47
learned a new term, rotor
washing. Look at what they're
36:50
doing to us. They're rotor
washing us. And I'm like, Okay,
36:54
it looks to me, just from a
pilot perspective. And I have a
36:59
lot of hours. I have more hours
on helicopter than fixed wing,
37:03
including a Chinook one hour.
But okay, so Chinook, and I said
37:07
the Blackhawk is very powerful.
Around 53 feet is when you're
37:11
gonna start blowing stuff away
on the ground. It looks to me
37:15
like they're coming in to figure
out where they can land, and
37:18
then you decide to take off. And
yeah, your tents are gonna fly
37:22
away, and your boxes are gonna,
you know, move around on the
37:25
ground. But if they were really
rotor washing you, which I have
37:29
done, I have rotor washed a
sailboat in Holland. It was fun.
37:33
The guys loved it. There was
there on the lake, and we came
37:36
out on purpose, yeah, but they
wanted it because we were
37:38
helping that we were giving him
speed, and they thought it was
37:41
hilarious, so we were blowing
their sail. And so I know you
37:44
have to come down a lot,
especially with that, you know,
37:46
53 feet is about where, where
it's at. And so now we get the
37:51
story was North Carolina
National Guard. They were
37:55
looking, they actually thought
they could land. And Well,
37:59
here's the story, the North
38:00
Unknown: Carolina National Guard
is investigating an accident or
38:02
an incident, I should say, of
one of its helicopters at a
38:05
Helene Donation Center. Viewer
38:06
shared this video of the chopper
coming too close to a
38:09
distribution site in Burnsville.
The National Guard says this
38:12
happened as the pilot tried to
land and deliver generators. The
38:15
National Guard says on approach,
the crew noticed that there were
38:18
too many people tents and
supplies close the landing
38:20
supply. So the helicopter took
back off. They also admit they
38:24
did not get clearance to land
from local law enforcement
38:26
station.
38:27
Safety is our number one
Paramount with our forces that
38:31
we have on the ground. And so we
are again continuing to
38:34
investigate that we do have some
communication with the landing
38:38
sites and the people that we are
going to take commodities to
38:41
it's matured over time.
Initially we had no
38:44
communication, so we were just
making a call and landing but
38:48
now the landing sites have been
more mature, and we do have
38:52
communication with emergency
personnel that are on the
38:54
ground.
38:56
Major General Todd hunt said he
is very sorry for the incident.
38:59
He says the crew is grounded for
now, and they're working with
39:01
the organization to identify how
much damage the crew caused.
39:05
Adam Curry: So, oh, so, of
course, you know this was not, I
39:09
mean, the implication this is
because there's so little trust,
39:13
or maybe just massive distrust
in our government at the moment
39:18
that people jump to this
conclusion that they're trying
39:21
to purposely hurt them. I just
don't think that was the case
39:26
and but the programming was so
strong when I even said, Hey, I
39:31
don't think that's, I don't
think this is their purposely
39:34
rotor washing. Because if you
really purposely want to rotor
39:37
wash, people would be flying
around on the ground. You know
39:41
this, this was they're trying
to, they're trying to do
39:43
reconnaissance. Can we land
here? They fly away and but
39:47
people are so spun up. Because,
for sure, the reliance on the
39:52
government has been so built up
we talked about in the last
39:56
show, so built up by people. Oh,
the government's going to come
39:59
and save me. And what's
happening in western North
40:02
Carolina. It's horrible. I mean,
we're not getting and of course,
40:05
all of that news is going to be
pushed to the back burner. We're
40:09
only going to be talking about
Florida right now. It's all
40:11
minimal because, oh, god forbid
we make anybody look good,
40:15
because you can't. The
government is not set up to be
40:19
the knights in shining armor.
They're not set up to save you.
40:23
They're not they talk a big
game, just like Kamala is going
40:27
to save you with, I don't know,
building houses. And they just
40:32
talk, the sooner we realize that
that's not the way it is, the
40:37
better it is. And we're just in
this horrible, I don't know, 80
40:41
or 100 year cycle. Well, you
know, we had Sir Mark and Dame
40:45
Astrid here, Sunday and Monday.
Fantastic. We had a great time.
40:51
And Sir Mark was telling us how
he went to the Fukushima, you
40:57
know, just check stuff out the
little tour up there. And they
41:01
went to this hilltop, and there
were three monuments, and he
41:05
says, Oh, is this the monument
for Fukushima? And the Japanese
41:08
guide there said, oh, yeah, we
do it for every time it happens.
41:11
This happens every 100 years. So
this is from 100 years ago. This
41:14
from 200 years ago. See, we
didn't, we don't hear all that,
41:18
but that's Mother Earth wins
every single time. So you know,
41:23
to throw in climate change and
all of this nonsense. It's, it's
41:28
dishonest, and it's, it's just
programming weak minded brothers
41:32
and sisters into believing it
and going along with the program
41:35
and eating bugs, and it makes
everybody else crazy and mad,
41:39
because they're, doing it.
They're doing they're doing it
41:43
to screw the elections. No, it's
just life Trump's fault. Yeah,
41:48
it's for, well, of course, it's
all Trump's fault. The same, by
41:52
the way, goes for the and Trump
is out there. He's, he's talking
41:56
this thing up too, which is bull
crap, this Kamala Harris 60
42:00
Minutes interview. What? They
edited it. They took out all the
42:03
stupid stuff. Okay, yeah, 60
minutes. Chopped down their
42:10
interview to get it into, I
don't know, 60 minutes. And yes,
42:14
they chopped out all the fluff
and the nonsense that she talks.
42:18
But they had put that. Let's
42:20
John C Dvorak: stop right there.
That's what you do. Yes,
42:24
Adam Curry: that's what you do.
With an interview
42:27
John C Dvorak: I used to guy I
knew, David Renson, who used to
42:31
write for Playboy. We were
talking one day about how I met
42:37
him because they were going to
do a piece of it involved me and
42:43
he's talked about the best
interviews in the Playboy,
42:46
interviews are extremely edited,
because that otherwise you're
42:50
going to bore people stiff. If
you look at something like
42:53
Interview magazine, when that
was around, they would do Waldo.
42:56
Their interviews are, were
straight up, and it was a lot
42:59
of, well, the way I see it's
like get it's like taking and
43:05
doing a transcription of Elon
Musk, who's gonna read this
43:09
crap.
43:10
Adam Curry: So when I, of
course, you know, everyone had
43:12
the side by side, it's about 15
seconds longer the unedited bit,
43:16
and we can certainly play it.
But the point is, it was CBS
43:22
themselves who put the whole,
the full answer Question and
43:26
Answer out. It was on Face The
Nation as a promo reel for the
43:30
interview. Because then, when I
saw this, like, Well, where did
43:33
this come from? This tape. Was
it leaked? Is there someone
43:35
within CBS? Because that's the
implication, oh, we got the raw,
43:39
unreaded footage. They just put
it out there. They was part of a
43:44
promo for the whole 60 Minutes
interview and and by the way,
43:49
the whole thing is chopped up.
You think that was you
43:52
John C Dvorak: have to do that.
That's what you do. You do this
43:55
is an entertainment at some
level. You don't bore people
44:00
stiff with the real deal,
because no one's going to follow
44:04
it. They're going to go nuts.
Yes, she's a hopeless case.
44:08
She's dumb.
44:10
Adam Curry: Yeah, she is. She
and if anything is a
44:13
John C Dvorak: dumb person, you
can see it in her eyes.
44:16
Adam Curry: I have actually have
a backgrounder here, because she
44:20
went on this, yeah, here, this
France 24 again, but they had a
44:23
good little summary of her media
blitz.
44:25
Unknown: We asked ahead of time.
With just four weeks to go, it's
44:28
her last chance for voters to
get to know her better, cracking
44:32
open a can of lager on Stephen
Colbert's talk show, Vice
44:35
President Harris continued her
week long, high profile media
44:38
blitz. Howard Stern's radio
show, whose listenership skews
44:42
white and male. She took a mix
of more hardline questions on
44:46
policy, but also showed her
personality. Sis.
44:48
Listen, I've been the first and
first woman in almost every
44:51
position I've had. Yeah. So I
believe that men and women
44:57
support women in leadership, and
that's been. My life experience,
45:01
and that's why I'm running for
president, and that's
45:03
in a bid to reach every
demographic. Four string of
45:05
appearances has included non
traditional outlets like the
45:09
call her daddy podcast, a Gen Z
millennial fan favorite with
45:13
biggest female listenership
body.
45:15
Unfortunately, Kamala Harris
doesn't have anything keeping
45:18
her humble. How did that make
you feel?
45:21
I don't think she understands
that there are a whole lot of
45:26
women out here who one are not
aspiring to be humble.
45:31
However, critics have argued
that Harris is still introducing
45:34
herself this close to the
election, and accuse her of
45:37
being unable to align herself
from Joe Biden's administration.
45:41
Would you have done something
differently than President Biden
45:44
during the past four years?
45:47
There is not a thing that comes
to mind in terms of, and I've
45:50
been a part of most of the
decisions that have had impact.
45:56
Look Bill Paris
45:56
eventually clarified that,
unlike Biden, she plans to put a
46:00
Republican in her cabinet, with
seven battleground states up for
46:03
grabs, and polls continuing to
show a tight race, the interview
46:07
burst is intended to hit a large
portion of the media spectrum
46:11
and dispel criticism about her
infrequent engagement with the
46:14
mainstream media. All right, so
46:15
Adam Curry: I've looked at all
of it. I looked at the 60
46:18
minutes. I looked at the view
all of call her daddy boy. That
46:22
was that was bored me to tears.
It was, I mean, no, it was
46:26
terrible. One blow job question.
It was so boring. And
46:29
John C Dvorak: that's the thing
that I mentioned in the
46:31
newsletter, and I just want to
reiterate it, yes, uh, Alexandra
46:37
Cooper, Alex, Alex, who split
off from Sophia with an F Sophia
46:42
Franklin, because they used to
be partners, and then they split
46:46
off, and Alexandra got a potload
of money because she was she
46:53
played her cards right, and her
and I've listened to her podcast
46:57
now and again, trying to get
some clips from it. Never been
47:00
able to, all she does is talk
about blow jobs. She is
47:04
preoccupied with blow jobs. Yes,
yes. And so it's like, and
47:09
she'll go on and on and on about
it with people. I don't think a
47:11
lot of people want to talk about
it and but she talks about and
47:15
talks about and so it so she
doesn't talk about it with
47:19
Camelot. But as I mentioned the
newsletter, there's a very
47:23
interesting irony here that,
because I don't think cameras
47:26
people knew anything about this
podcast, they just knew it was
47:29
big. Is second to Rogan at
Spotify, supposedly, and so it's
47:35
a monster podcast that has a big
audience, and that's all they
47:38
knew. It's this is like media
buyers. They don't know what
47:40
they're doing, and so they put
her on there. And the irony of
47:43
her being on a blow basically a
blow job podcast, did not elude
47:50
a lot of people, including me.
47:52
Adam Curry: So here's my
conclusion, besides her word
47:57
salad and saying nothing, which
is okay, if you gave me 10 women
48:05
and put them in a lineup and
said, Okay, you're casting for
48:09
president, she would be last.
There is nothing about her at
48:14
all that has anything
presidential. She has dead eyes.
48:19
She has when she talks, She
frowns when she talks, which is
48:23
very off putting she has a bit
of that vocal fry America
48:30
John C Dvorak: a wine, a
Berkeley wine, Berkeley
48:32
Adam Curry: wine. We
48:33
John C Dvorak: choose a Berkeley
wine. We
48:34
Adam Curry: choose our
presidents like we choose our
48:38
breakfast cereal. And this is
not what Americans go for. I
48:43
don't understand why the
Republicans and conservatives in
48:47
our country are so spun up about
it. She's not going to be
48:52
elected. Now, can they cheat? I
even doubt that you can't cheat
48:56
enough. Yeah, too big to rig.
She is really unappealing, just
49:03
unappeal She is. She's
unappealing, which is the whole
49:05
reason why she had 1% when she
was running for president, she
49:10
had to drop out. It was so
embarrassing, because no one
49:13
likes her. She's unlikable. And
I'm saying this from a
49:17
television producer perspective.
You
49:19
John C Dvorak: can say from any
perspective you want. I think if
49:23
you talk to a lot of women don't
like or, I mean, the only people
49:27
that like or don't have never
seen her do anything, they're
49:30
just voting Democrat. Huge
number of people out there,
49:35
Adam Curry: yeah, sure, huge
number, yes, but those are the
49:38
ones who aren't hurting in the
pocketbook.
49:42
John C Dvorak: Might be, but
they just vote Democrat. There
49:44
are people that vote Democrat.
There are people that vote
49:47
Republican, and there's a big
range of people that actually
49:50
take a look at Yeah, and they
decide late, I do
49:54
Adam Curry: want to play just
two clips from the 60 Minutes
49:57
interview, just to put some
content and. A to this segment
50:01
where we just slag women off
based upon their parents.
50:05
John C Dvorak: That's what you
did. I didn't do it. You're
50:09
guilty
50:09
Adam Curry: by association. Here
she is, and there's a lot of
50:14
hey, hey, you know, if you don't
mind me, excuse me. I'm talking.
50:18
Let me. Let me finish. That
50:21
John C Dvorak: does not work.
50:22
Adam Curry: No, it's very it's
not good at all. This is about
50:26
the border. Was
50:27
Unknown: it a mistake to loosen
the immigration policies? As
50:32
much as you dig.
50:33
It's a long standing edit,
50:35
Adam Curry: by the way, edit I
can just you can tell where all
50:38
the edits are. This thing was
completely chopped up, not just
50:41
this one bit immigration
50:43
Unknown: policies,
50:44
as much as you did. It's a long
standing problem, and solutions
50:50
are at hand, and from day one,
literally, we have been offering
50:55
solutions.
50:56
What I was asking was, was it a
mistake to kind of allow that
51:01
flood to happen in the first
place. I
51:03
think the policies that we have
been proposing are about fixing
51:09
a problem, not promoting a
problem. Okay, but the numbers
51:12
did quadruple, and the numbers
today because of what we have
51:16
done, we have cut the flow of
illegal immigration by half. We
51:22
have to cut the flow of fentanyl
by half, but we need Congress to
51:28
be able to act to actually fix
the
51:31
problem. Okay, so
51:32
Adam Curry: that's a very bad
answer, very bad answer, and
51:36
everybody knows it. And then the
other one is about her flip
51:40
flopping on all of our policies.
Let
51:42
Unknown: me tell you what your
critics and the colonists say.
51:45
Adam Curry: The columnist or the
columnist, pay attention.
51:48
Unknown: We tell you what your
critics and
51:50
John C Dvorak: hold that. Now I
should mention what's kind of
51:53
what, what
51:54
Adam Curry: columnist?
Columnist, the columnist. Oh, I
51:57
tell you the columnist. Oh, God,
lordy. Let me
51:59
Unknown: tell you what your
critics and the columnists say?
52:02
Okay, they say, the reason so
many voters don't know you is
52:07
that you have changed your
position on so many things. You
52:11
were against fracking. Now
you're for it. You supported
52:15
looser immigration policies. Now
you're tightening them up.
52:19
You're for Medicare for all. Now
you're not so many that people
52:24
don't truly know what you
believe or what you stand for,
52:29
and I know you've heard that.
52:30
In the last four years, I have
been vice president United
52:34
States, and I have been
traveling our country, and I
52:36
have been listening to folks and
seeking what is possible in
52:41
terms of common ground. I
believe in building consensus.
52:45
We are diverse people,
geographically, regionally, in
52:49
terms of where we are in our
backgrounds, and what the
52:53
American people do want is that
we have leaders who can build
52:56
consensus, where we can figure
out compromise and understand
53:01
it's not a bad thing, as long as
you don't compromise your values
53:05
to find common sense solutions,
and that has been my approach.
53:11
There
53:11
Adam Curry: was a whole article
in Atlantic magazine because
53:15
they're so mad. They're so mad
about Kamala and Trump going on
53:21
podcasts and like, well, it's
not real if you just want a
53:25
softball personality in your
head. Face it, mainstream media.
53:31
Face it, M, 5m podcasts are
taken over. Go sit behind the Go
53:37
ahead. Sit behind the the
paywall. See how you do.
53:42
John C Dvorak: I have a good,
just an interrupting clip here
53:45
about podcasts that was sent
over by Steve. And where is this
53:51
thing? It's actually kind of
fits right into what you're
53:54
saying.
53:57
Unknown: I'm looking,
53:58
John C Dvorak: I'm looking too.
54:00
Adam Curry: Oh NPR, the
candidates appear on podcasts.
54:03
John C Dvorak: Yes, okay. Vice
President
54:05
Unknown: and candidate Kamala
Harris have been stepping up
54:07
media appearances lately. She's
been getting criticism that
54:10
she's not spending enough time
in the public eye. Harris has
54:13
done traditional shows like 60
minutes and also hitting the
54:16
podcast circuit. Last week, she
turned up on the podcast all the
54:19
smoke, hosted by former NBA
champ Stephen Jackson and Matt
54:23
Barnes as
54:24
someone who's been the first in
a lot of spaces you've been in,
54:27
a woman of color knocking on the
door to possibly be the next
54:30
president. How do you protect
your mental health and your
54:33
mental space?
54:34
Number one rule,
54:35
Adam Curry: John, how do you
protect your mental space?
54:38
John C Dvorak: I really, I'm
very mental space. Yes,
54:41
Adam Curry: you protect your
mental space.
54:44
Unknown: You protect your mental
health and your mental space.
54:46
Well, number one rule, don't
read the comments. Fantastic. If
54:52
you
54:52
have a specific slice Sarah
people that you want to reach,
54:54
there is a podcast for that.
That's for sure. There's a lot
54:57
of them, but when you and I are
doing interviews, I mean, we
54:59
have. Journalistic principles
that we follow. So those
55:02
podcasts follow any of that
55:04
typically not. I mean, these are
typically run by hosts who are
55:07
influencers. Maybe they are
former reality stars or former
55:11
athletes. They are not people
who typically have journalistic
55:15
training, although you'll see
they prepare for interviews.
55:17
Sometimes they'll reference
sound bites. They'll try to make
55:20
sure that this interview feels
very authoritative, but at the
55:23
end of the day, the same type of
journalistic standards and
55:26
scrutiny that you and I would
pose on an interview don't exist
55:29
here. And so the reason why I
think you're going to have
55:32
pressure to do both types of
environments, formal sit down
55:36
interview with a journalistic
outlet like an NPR or, you know,
55:38
in the case of last night 60
minutes. It's because voters
55:42
want to know more about your
actual platform, as opposed to,
55:44
if you're sitting down with a
podcaster, they're just getting
55:47
to know a little bit more about
55:48
Adam Curry: you personally. Oh,
it's pretty much the same thing
55:50
in the Atlantic, the same thing.
Oh, there's no there's no
55:53
journalistic integrity. They
don't have producers and people
55:58
looking for stuff and digging
through and there's no critical
56:01
questions. What a crock. Totally
and I am, I will say
56:06
John C Dvorak: that, by the way,
I there's a lot of podcasts that
56:11
have journalists involved with
them. Yeah, I would say this is
56:14
one of them, but I don't like to
brag about that, but the whole
56:18
New York Times podcast is just
journal is yakking about stuff,
56:22
yes,
56:24
Adam Curry: but of course, you
know the really successful ones
56:27
where the money is, which we're
not making with our integrity
56:30
and our journal and our J school
diplomas like Joe Rogan. And I
56:36
have to say, I find it peculiar
that neither candidate has been
56:43
on Rogan I know why Trump, at
least, I think I know why Trump
56:48
hasn't been on is because at
least a while ago it was, you
56:54
know, Hey, you want to be on my
show, you got to come to my
56:57
studio. And Trump only does him
at Mar a Lago. So I understand
57:01
that there's, that's a I
understand Joe like, come to my
57:04
studio. I think Kamala should
go. In fact, it would be I
57:10
should
57:10
John C Dvorak: go on that show
in a million years. If she did,
57:13
she I think those bookers that
booked her on the call her daddy
57:17
show or idiots. I think they're
smart enough to not put her on
57:20
Rogan, I have to. I'd be stunned
if she ever showed up on Rogan.
57:24
I can
57:25
Adam Curry: predict, though, in
the future election, we won't
57:27
make it to the next one because
we only have four more years.
57:31
But in four
57:32
John C Dvorak: more years in
future, but the four more years
57:34
could be perpetual. Oh,
57:36
Adam Curry: okay, Dream on. So
in four more years, I can see
57:41
where an actual debate would
take place in a very in a
57:46
podcast, just two candidates
sitting down, arguing, yelling,
57:52
getting into it, getting into
it,
57:56
John C Dvorak: more likely that
a lazy podcaster would let them
58:00
go For because you sit back. I
mean, if you do enough radio or
58:04
any of these free content, yeah,
free content, you back off and
58:08
you just let them go for it,
yelling at each other, because,
58:11
you know people are going to
tune in, and
58:13
Adam Curry: you don't need a
moderator. There's no moderator
58:16
John C Dvorak: just having me
yell at each other. Yes, I would
58:19
pack them in. Just
58:21
Adam Curry: toss a question up.
All right, let's border crisis
58:25
go. That's all he needs to do.
In fact, I'm happy to facilitate
58:29
that. So let me play two podcast
clips from an NPR podcast. So
58:37
this is kind of meta where the
NPR politics podcast is talking
58:42
about Kamala on the call her
daddy podcast. It's meta, and
58:46
Unknown: today on the show, A
Look at VICE PRESIDENT Harris's
58:49
media strategy Harris is doing.
Why
58:52
Adam Curry: do they not get the
good mics in the good studio for
58:55
NPR podcasts? What is this
sound? I
58:58
John C Dvorak: think this is
just the bad sound that I'm
59:00
getting all the time, but you
came through crummy.
59:03
Adam Curry: This is them. This
is just how it sounds. It's bad.
59:07
And
59:07
John C Dvorak: today on the
show, A Look has better mics.
59:10
Thank you. Harris's
59:11
Unknown: media strategy, Harris
is doing a whirlwind of three
59:15
interviews today, which was the
impetus for our podcast. You
59:18
know, since she has become the
Democratic nominee, she's done a
59:21
mix of mainstream broadcast
television interviews places
59:24
like CNN and CBS, is 60 minutes.
And then she's also done
59:28
untraditional interviews with
podcasts to engage with folks
59:31
who might not be traditional
news consumers.
59:34
Adam Curry: See that they are so
irked, they are beside
59:38
themselves, because, you know,
come is not going to go on the
59:41
NPR politics podcast, which no
one listens to, but other
59:45
podcasters.
59:46
Unknown: Aline, I want to start
the conversation with you. What
59:49
is the thinking behind the mix
the combination of interviews
59:54
Harris has been doing. This is a
very
59:56
interesting strategy, this new
kind of realm of of podcasts.
1:00:00
Going on social media. You know,
that's kind of a clear hand out
1:00:03
to younger voters. No
1:00:06
Adam Curry: has nothing to do
with younger voters. What
1:00:09
picture the average Rogan
listener is older than you think
1:00:12
Unknown: to to kind of get them
involved in the places that they
1:00:15
consume information. And you
know, regardless of where she's
1:00:18
going, these are places with
audiences of millions of people.
1:00:22
John C Dvorak: That's just a
thought. Pastor, I think they're
1:00:26
equating podcast listeners with
tick tock listeners or viewers,
1:00:32
because that is a younger
demographic. I'm convinced of
1:00:36
it. I'm
1:00:36
Adam Curry: not even I'm not
even sure of that the people I
1:00:39
see addicted to tick tock are my
age, I'm not so sure about that.
1:00:43
Well,
1:00:43
John C Dvorak: okay, you got me
there. It's possible I'm wrong.
1:00:46
No, this,
1:00:47
Adam Curry: this is just what
you're hearing in their voices.
1:00:50
Bigotry,
1:00:51
John C Dvorak: by the way,
1:00:51
Adam Curry: is what they're
angry. They're angry. They're
1:00:54
angry because, oh well, they
have the big audiences, because
1:00:57
they're just influencers,
because they're just no good. I
1:01:01
mean, you're fighting, they're
fighting a system that is that
1:01:04
you always lose because, yes,
they have big audiences, because
1:01:08
they don't have a stick up their
butt like you do with a crappy
1:01:11
sound. You
1:01:12
Unknown: know, regardless of
where she's going, these are
1:01:15
places with audiences of
millions of people, and she's
1:01:18
going on these podcasts that you
know, are kind of more geared
1:01:21
towards younger folks. She just
went on on Sunday to Alex
1:01:26
Cooper's show called call her
daddy, which is a show mostly, I
1:01:31
mean entertainment podcast. It's
one of the top shows in the
1:01:34
country, and it's about topics
like sex and relationships. And
1:01:37
Harris kind of had this long
conversation about different
1:01:40
issues affecting young women
today, and talked a lot about
1:01:42
abortion. So let's talk
1:01:44
a little bit more about a couple
of these specific podcast
1:01:47
interviews she's done. Let's
talk specifically about the call
1:01:50
her daddy episode.
1:01:52
John C Dvorak: This idea of,
let's talk about, let's talk
1:01:54
about, I've noticed this on a
lot of these, these, this comes
1:01:57
from Amy Goodman. This will tell
us about, let's talk about,
1:02:02
let's talk about this. We've
never done that on this show,
1:02:05
what
1:02:05
Adam Curry: say you?
1:02:08
John C Dvorak: What say you?
Well, that's even worse.
1:02:11
Adam Curry: Yes,
1:02:12
Unknown: she's done let's talk
specifically about the call her
1:02:14
daddy episode. You know, I felt
like it was, in a lot of ways,
1:02:18
it was like an infomercial for
Harris. It was just an
1:02:21
opportunity for her to talk at
length.
1:02:24
That's what she wanted. It
almost to me, felt like the
1:02:27
point of that interview was to
do the interview, if that makes
1:02:30
sense, like her being on the
podcast just to say the words
1:02:33
Kamala Harris is on call her
daddy, like that in itself, is
1:02:37
something I've heard. You know,
folks around my age feel like,
1:02:40
oh my god, this is kind of crazy
because of what I said earlier.
1:02:43
This show is not known for
talking about politics.
1:02:47
Adam Curry: Politics. Have
another you want to hear more of
1:02:49
this, these two dingbats.
1:02:51
John C Dvorak: I want to mention
that if you listen to the
1:02:53
beginning of the call for call
for daddy, call call her daddy.
1:02:57
Call for daddy, there's a call
me your podcast. We're going to
1:03:00
start with a call for daddy.
Call for daddy. So
1:03:04
Adam Curry: it's a faith based
podcast, call for dad.
1:03:09
John C Dvorak: Alex goes starts
it off with an unbelievable
1:03:14
like, five minutes of apologia.
I'm using that word instead of
1:03:18
apology, but Apollo that she's
doing this at all. Yes, she goes
1:03:24
on and on and on about, wait,
don't do politics
1:03:27
Adam Curry: cross legged like
crisscross applesauce on her
1:03:30
oversized couch. Okay, all
right, daddy verse, whatever she
1:03:35
calls it, daddy verse,
1:03:36
John C Dvorak: daddy verse. I am
convinced that she was forced
1:03:41
into this by Spotify. Maybe, I
think so, because she was so
1:03:46
apology. Didn't want to do it.
There doesn't fit into the for
1:03:49
you blah, blah, blah. She went
on and on and on, saying she's
1:03:52
sorry for doing this, as you
know. So I guess they let her
1:03:56
get away with with that excuse.
But the whole thing was off top.
1:04:00
It was off. It was off. It was
off. What do you call it? It's
1:04:04
not off topic, but it's off.
Sucks,
1:04:07
Adam Curry: sucks. It sucks. Not
relevant. That's
1:04:10
John C Dvorak: it sucks, not
1:04:11
Adam Curry: relevant, not
relevant. All right, so Well,
1:04:15
that's enough of that, but let's
stay with the same podcast,
1:04:18
because they spent a lot of time
talking about the new deets. The
1:04:22
new deets on the case filed
against Trump for January 6. Oh,
1:04:26
no, there's new evidence. It's
hard evidence he's going down.
1:04:29
Oh, we've got something. We've
got him now. So
1:04:32
Unknown: we are in the middle of
a presidential campaign, and we
1:04:34
are still getting new details
about Donald Trump's efforts to
1:04:37
overturn the last presidential
election, this time in the form
1:04:41
of a filing from Special Counsel
Jack Smith. Can you just explain
1:04:44
what happened this week? Yeah,
absolutely.
1:04:46
There. There were new things to
learn, even though, and of the
1:04:50
January 6 committee on Capitol
Hill and many others have been
1:04:53
spending a lot of time and
energy digging up details. The
1:04:56
difference here is that the
Justice Department and the FBI.
1:05:00
Had subpoena power. They could
execute searches, and people
1:05:03
felt the need or compelled to
talk, and so we got some new
1:05:06
details. Maybe the most
significant to me was on the day
1:05:12
of the Capitol riot itself, on
January 6, 2021 the prosecutors
1:05:16
asserted that it was Donald
Trump himself who was sitting in
1:05:20
a dining room off the Oval
Office watching Fox News and
1:05:25
issuing some of the tweets
himself that day. In particular,
1:05:28
that tweet around 2:24pm, where
he said his Vice President Mike
1:05:32
Pence lacked the courage to do
the right thing. Remember, Trump
1:05:36
and others had been leaning on
pence to kind of put a pause on
1:05:39
the certification of the
electoral votes, and pence
1:05:41
refused. And you know, there was
violence at the capitol that
1:05:45
day. Within a minute of Trump's
tweet, Pence had been evacuated
1:05:49
by the Secret Service, and then
an aide came rushing in to tell
1:05:53
Trump that there was chaos and
danger at the Capitol, including
1:05:57
toward Mike Pence. And according
to this new filing, Trump
1:06:00
replied, so what? Oh,
1:06:04
no.
1:06:07
Adam Curry: So this is new
evidence. Throw the book at him.
1:06:10
Oh, but wait, there's more.
1:06:11
Unknown: So a lot of new detail
here. Additional new detail. The
1:06:16
former president allegedly said
to his daughter Ivanka and son
1:06:19
in law Jared that the details
about the election really didn't
1:06:23
matter, and election fraud
really didn't matter. You've
1:06:27
just got to fight like hell. And
so that is new evidence about
1:06:32
what Trump said and did on key
days, as well as his state of
1:06:37
mind and about his state of mind
1:06:39
Adam Curry: these people, I
mean, I'm throwing them out of
1:06:42
podcast index. I'm censoring
them, I'm throwing them out.
1:06:47
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you could
actually, technically, maybe,
1:06:50
Adam Curry: no, technically, I
could do it right now. I won't.
1:06:54
They deserve it and so, and I
know you have two, two clips on
1:07:00
this, which I think will
probably expand on this general
1:07:04
overview, because not only do we
have this damning evidence of
1:07:08
Trump saying you've got to fight
like hell and who cares? I mean,
1:07:12
oh my god. I mean, we need to
throw him in jail. No, no, but,
1:07:17
but that nut job is back.
1:07:19
Unknown: Donald Trump's
relationship with Vladimir Putin
1:07:22
has been scrutinized since his
2016 bid for President. The
1:07:26
Republican leader has long
embraced Putin, whose
1:07:29
intelligence policies were found
to have meddled in US elections.
1:07:33
Now, a new book by veteran
American journalist Bob Woodward
1:07:37
reports further explosive
details on the two men's
1:07:40
interactions, first
1:07:41
Adam Curry: of all, spook and
second of all explosive details,
1:07:45
the
1:07:45
Unknown: Opus titled war cites
and the Opus.
1:07:49
Adam Curry: What? What is an
opus?
1:07:53
John C Dvorak: What does that
even mean? Like, you know, Ben
1:07:55
Hur Yes,
1:07:59
Unknown: the Opus titled war
cites an unnamed Trump aide who
1:08:02
says the pair had spoken as many
as seven times since Trump left
1:08:06
office. The aide also recalls
one instance early this year
1:08:10
where they were ordered out of
Trump's office in Mar a Lago so
1:08:13
he could take a call with the
Russian president. However, the
1:08:16
book also quotes a Trump
campaign official who cast doubt
1:08:20
on the supposed contact. Former
presidents often speak with
1:08:23
foreign leaders, but it's highly
unusual to talk to a leader of
1:08:27
one of the United States
adversaries without first
1:08:30
clearing it with the State
Department. The book also
1:08:33
alleges Trump sent Putin covid
19 testing equipment for his
1:08:37
personal use in 2020 when many
nations were facing shortages.
1:08:41
In a statement, the Trump
campaign said these were made up
1:08:44
stories and called Woodward a
demented and deranged man. The
1:08:49
Kremlin, meanwhile, also denied
the conversations between Trump
1:08:52
and Putin. Woodward rose to fame
after he and his colleague Carl
1:08:56
Bernstein, exposed the Watergate
scandal, bringing down Richard
1:09:00
Nixon, he's written more than 20
books on American politics and
1:09:04
current affairs, including 14
bestsellers. What
1:09:07
Adam Curry: happened to America?
Man, we used to love people who
1:09:11
would do stuff like that. You
just say, I remember Ronald
1:09:15
Reagan, he was doing a speech
and something like a gun sound
1:09:18
went off, and he went, Oh, you
missed me. I mean, these funny
1:09:21
things and oh, now I remember.
Now it's an outrage and so
1:09:26
horrible. It's hilarious. We
need,
1:09:31
John C Dvorak: we need more,
dude, back back to this topic
1:09:33
you just broached. I do have a
three by three which covers it.
1:09:37
Okay,
1:09:38
Adam Curry: so I'm sorry. Here
we go. Now it's time for three
1:09:40
by three, yes, experiment by
successful experiment, comparing
1:09:45
stories from ABC, CBS and NBC,
lot of people get real happy
1:09:52
when they hear that. Music, oh
yes, it's a three by music. It's
1:09:55
happy. Music, yes, we have a
three by three of this topic,
1:09:58
this is interesting
1:09:59
John C Dvorak: now. We heard,
yeah, I thought I was this
1:10:02
again, Steve sent us in. So I
will say the first clip, owner
1:10:08
plays ABC. Now you heard the
part where, I guess Trump sent
1:10:12
over a piece of gear to to
Putin,
1:10:16
Adam Curry: yeah, like, like,
one of the one of those free
1:10:19
testing kits. You got four No,
no.
1:10:21
John C Dvorak: He said, This
gear you were talking about.
1:10:23
What do you think that was
1:10:25
Adam Curry: free testing? Kids,
it would have to
1:10:27
John C Dvorak: be a PCR testing
module. It has to be some sort
1:10:32
of, you know, equipment, right?
Well, you're
1:10:34
Adam Curry: gonna spin it up,
okay. Well, I
1:10:36
John C Dvorak: guess I mean,
what else would it be? They're
1:10:38
good. In this clip, Kamala
Harris is brought into the
1:10:44
convention moan, and she she
makes it sound as if, because I
1:10:49
think she thinks this, that what
Trump did, and he listened
1:10:53
between the lines, he didn't
say, no, no, it wasn't some PCR
1:10:57
gear. It was a bunch of kits.
Yes, you're those three kids
1:11:02
that you get four, four
household, 100 of them.
1:11:07
Adam Curry: Trump probably had
amongst his 17 grandchild, and
1:11:10
he probably had, you know, about
100 so he probably sent here
1:11:13
Senator Vlad DHL.
1:11:16
John C Dvorak: But we have to,
we're assuming it was a PCR
1:11:21
gear. It wasn't a bunch of boxes
of cheap tests that don't do
1:11:25
anything. But let's listen to
this. As the covid pandemic was
1:11:30
raging and the government could
not produce enough tests for the
1:11:32
American people, then President
Donald Trump secretly sent rare
1:11:37
covid test machines to Russia to
Vladimir's dictator's personal
1:11:42
use. That's according to Bob
Woodward in a soon to be
1:11:46
published book called War,
Woodward writes that Putin told
1:11:49
Trump to keep it a secret,
saying quote, I don't want you
1:11:53
to tell anybody, because people
will get mad at you, not me.
1:11:56
Kamala Harris seized on
Woodward's new reporting today,
1:11:59
talking about it in an interview
with Howard Stern, everybody was
1:12:03
Unknown: scrambling to get these
kits, the tests, the covid test
1:12:08
kits, couldn't get them,
couldn't get them, couldn't get
1:12:10
them anywhere. Howard
1:12:11
Adam Curry: Stern had 1000 of
them, hypochondriac and
1:12:15
Unknown: this guy who was
president of the United States,
1:12:18
is sending them to Russia, to a
murderous dictator for his
1:12:21
personal use, this person who
wants to be president again, who
1:12:26
secretly is helping out an
adversary when the American
1:12:32
people are dying by the hundreds
every day and in need of relief,
1:12:37
Trump also had some choice words
for Woodward, calling him a
1:12:41
storyteller who, quote, lost his
marbles. Woodward, though, is
1:12:46
one of the most respected
journalists of our times. And as
1:12:49
you know, David Trump has
frequently praised Vladimir
1:12:52
Putin and boasted about having a
good relationship with the
1:12:56
Russian dictator.
1:12:57
Adam Curry: You know, we don't
talk about this enough, but I
1:13:00
gotta blow I gotta blow taps for
Howard Stern. What happened to
1:13:05
Howard Stern, the king of all
media, The Man Who Would he was
1:13:09
fighting the man fighting the
FCC, fighting the government.
1:13:13
What happened? What do they have
on him? How did this? How did
1:13:18
this happen that he became a
photo. What's that in your
1:13:22
mouth? Howard? Now it's, it is,
it's sad. I, I used to love
1:13:31
driving into New York from
Jersey for years at the Lincoln
1:13:36
Tunnel, sitting there. Now, at
least Howard's on when it was
1:13:39
best of Stern, we were still
happy, and now it's just what
1:13:44
has gone wrong.
1:13:47
John C Dvorak: Well, you're not
the only one that's mystified by
1:13:49
this. No, it was very let's go
with the second, the second of
1:13:55
the three, three by three. So we
go with, let's go to CBS
1:13:58
Unknown: during the early days
of the pandemic in 2020 then
1:14:01
President Donald Trump sent
Russian President Vladimir Putin
1:14:05
covid 19 test machines.
According to the new book War by
1:14:09
Bob Woodward, Vice President
Kamala Harris responded today
1:14:12
during an interview with Howard
Stern, everybody
1:14:15
was scrambling to get these
kits, the tests, the covid test
1:14:20
kits, couldn't get them,
couldn't get them, couldn't get
1:14:22
them anywhere, right? This guy
who was president of the United
1:14:26
States is sending them to Russia
to a murderous dictator for his
1:14:30
personal use.
1:14:31
Even after he left office, Trump
stayed in touch with the Russian
1:14:34
leader. According to Woodward,
he cites an unidentified Trump
1:14:37
aide who said the former
president had as many as seven
1:14:40
private calls with Putin, even
one early this year, when Trump
1:14:43
was urging Republicans to block
additional aid to Ukraine in its
1:14:47
fight against Russia, the newly
revealed contacts raised
1:14:50
additional questions about
Trump's relationship with Putin
1:14:53
in the recent presidential
debate, Trump twice refused to
1:14:55
say who he wanted to prevail in
the war with Ukraine. Do
1:14:58
you want Ukraine? Time to win
this war.
1:15:01
I want the war to stop. The
1:15:03
vice president told 60 minutes
Trump would have allowed Putin
1:15:06
to conquer Ukraine.
1:15:07
Donald Trump, if he were
president, Putin would be
1:15:11
sitting in Kyiv right now. He
talks about, oh, he can end it
1:15:15
on day one. You know what that
is. It's about surrender.
1:15:18
Woodward,
1:15:19
who rose to fame investigating
Watergate writes in the book,
1:15:22
Trump was far worse than Richard
Nixon, a Trump spokesman
1:15:25
responded saying Woodward's
reporting is not true and that
1:15:28
Trump gave Woodward absolutely
no access
1:15:34
hit job.
1:15:35
John C Dvorak: Now a couple of
things about this, and the other
1:15:37
one is that neither report
mentions the fact that they talk
1:15:42
about machines, covid, PCR,
machines are here. They said it
1:15:46
here in this report. No, they
said it was machines. But they
1:15:49
never make the point that she's
talking about test kits, kits.
1:15:53
Yeah, by the way, clear that
this machines are not test kits.
1:15:58
Yet they play her talking about
test kits with no clarification
1:16:02
whatsoever. I have some clips
later in the show, if we get to
1:16:05
them, about some of the science
reporting on NPR, doing the same
1:16:08
kind of thing, leaving out
details that are necessary for
1:16:11
understanding. Leaving out
details that are necessary for
1:16:15
understanding is what these
networks are doing. And they're
1:16:19
doing a they're doing a
disservice to the American
1:16:22
public with this sort of
reporting just I it's just
1:16:25
beyond me What What I know is
going on. So I'm
1:16:30
Adam Curry: looking for an
excerpt in war would this is
1:16:34
from BBC in war. Woodward writes
that while the former president
1:16:38
was in office, Trump secretly
sent Putin a bunch of Abbott
1:16:41
point of care covid test
machines for his personal use.
1:16:47
So that is what was written in
the book. So Harris is
1:16:53
completely nuts when she's
talking about the test kits. And
1:16:57
have you noticed that Howard's
voice is lighter like he's he
1:17:00
does. He does. He talks a little
more in the front of his mouth.
1:17:02
He doesn't have that throaty
1:17:04
John C Dvorak: I didn't know
this is but you would, yeah. All
1:17:06
right, let's play the last of
the three, which will be NBC
1:17:11
Unknown: tonight in her ongoing
media blitz. Vice President
1:17:14
Harris telling ABC she wouldn't
change anything President Biden
1:17:17
did.
1:17:18
Would you have done something
differently than President Biden
1:17:21
during the past four years.
1:17:24
There is Donna thing that comes
to mind in terms of, and I've
1:17:27
been, I think
1:17:28
Adam Curry: she lost the
election on this. I think this
1:17:32
was the this was the loser. When
you say this, nothing comes to
1:17:37
mind, yeah,
1:17:39
John C Dvorak: and there's
plenty that just there was wide
1:17:42
days. It was a softball that
Sonny horses had to literally
1:17:46
read from a sheet. Yes,
1:17:48
Adam Curry: this was the, I
think this is the election
1:17:51
losing answer, right? There
1:17:53
Unknown: is not a thing that
comes to mind in terms of, and
1:17:56
I've been a part of, most of the
decisions that have had impact
1:18:01
later, saying she would name a
Republican to her cabinet,
1:18:04
former President Trump slamming
the response, calling it quote
1:18:07
her dumbest answer so far, and
Biden the worst president in
1:18:10
history. Meanwhile, Washington
Post reporter Bob Woodward
1:18:13
writes in a new book that former
President Trump secretly sent
1:18:17
Russian President Putin covid
tests for his personal use in
1:18:20
2020 please don't tell anybody
you sent these to me. Woodward
1:18:24
says Putin told Trump I don't
care. Trump replied, fine.
1:18:28
Woodward citing an unnamed aide
who claims Trump may have spoken
1:18:31
to Putin as many as seven times
since leaving the White House.
1:18:35
NBC News has not confirmed
Woodward's reporting. The Trump
1:18:39
campaign responding in part,
quote, none of these made up
1:18:41
stories by Bob Woodward are
true. Harris slamming Trump
1:18:45
today,
1:18:46
everybody was scrambling to get
these kits, the tests. This guy
1:18:51
who was president of the United
States, is sending them to
1:18:53
Russia, to a murderous dictator
for his personal use. Brother
1:19:00
John C Dvorak: NBC did the worst
job of it, because they didn't
1:19:02
even indicate that it was a
machine, no, which you easily
1:19:07
noted. It took you all of two
seconds to read from the from
1:19:11
BBC document from
1:19:13
Adam Curry: the book. Oh, gee,
there's
1:19:15
John C Dvorak: like these guys
even made it sound as though it
1:19:18
was test kits. NBC did so they
could that would would normalize
1:19:22
what it would make it more
sense. It would normalize what
1:19:25
Harris said, Good point by by
soft pedaling, what it really
1:19:29
was good. This is the kind of
NBC is going off the deep end. I
1:19:33
blame Comcast. I blame does
Brian L Roberts guy? The guy was
1:19:37
the CEO. Somebody should call
him out. Okay, well,
1:19:43
Adam Curry: might as well be
you, because no one else is
1:19:45
listening. Call him out. This is
another problem we can't do more
1:19:50
than four more years. It's not
going to be any media left to
1:19:54
deconstruct. We'll just be
talking about podcasts.
1:19:57
John C Dvorak: That's the way
it's headed. Yeah, I. All
1:20:00
Adam Curry: right, before we
take a break, there was one
1:20:02
interesting piece of news about
Tina Peters Tina Peters day is
1:20:08
her name. She was the she was
overseeing the election in Mesa,
1:20:13
Arizona, and she took issue with
the voting machines. Now, when
1:20:20
you hear this story, what she
what she really got convicted
1:20:24
for, is for allowing an
unauthorized person to take a
1:20:30
look at the machines. And
there's a whole bunch of other
1:20:32
stuff. There was screenshots
where everybody could see it was
1:20:35
near the password was one,
password, 123, and stuff like
1:20:39
that, which is important
information for people, but they
1:20:43
threw the book at her. Elections
1:20:45
Unknown: have consequences, and
so does breaking the law in
1:20:49
search of election rigging. Tina
Peters sentenced today to nine
1:20:53
years in her election tampering
case. Colorado's best known
1:20:56
election denier, the former Mesa
County Clerk, was defiant till
1:21:00
the end, arguing with the judge
at sentencing and bringing in a
1:21:03
parade of fellow election
conspiracy theorists to defend
1:21:06
her. Our Mark Salinger was in
court in Grand Junction where
1:21:09
Peters laughed at prosecutors,
lectured the judge, then was led
1:21:14
away in handcuffs. Tina Peters
is a hero to the people who
1:21:18
believe her lies, but inside
this courthouse, those same lies
1:21:22
made her a felon. You are a
charlatan, and you cannot help
1:21:26
but lie as easy it is for you to
breathe, a reckoning happened
1:21:29
today in judge Matthew Barrett's
courtroom. For nearly 30
1:21:33
minutes, speaking directly to
Peters, he made it clear that
1:21:36
words have consequences and lies
lead to prison sentences. Prison
1:21:41
is for those folks, where we
send people who are a danger to
1:21:44
all of us, whether it by be by
the pen or the sword or the word
1:21:49
of the mouth, prison is where
folks go, where punishment is
1:21:53
what we're focused on, because
the crime committed is so
1:21:57
significant that anything less
would unduly mitigate the
1:22:01
seriousness of the same Peters
granted conspiracy theorists
1:22:04
illegal access to voting systems
in our county as she searched
1:22:08
for proof of voter fraud, even
to this day, after finding no
1:22:11
proof of fraud, she maintains
the election was stolen from
1:22:15
Donald Trump, and told the court
She did nothing wrong. So
1:22:18
Adam Curry: okay, so you threw
the book at her, because she
1:22:22
after the election. By the way,
after all the election was said
1:22:26
and done, she lets in computer
experts, now known as conspiracy
1:22:31
theorists, to take a look at
these machines, and then in the
1:22:35
courtroom, the judge is making
it sound like, Oh, if you're a
1:22:39
danger, if you say things that
aren't true. He was really
1:22:44
making a big deal out of all,
you lie, you lie. So we're
1:22:48
throwing you in jail for nine
years. This, this is something
1:22:53
that actually kind of worries
me. Yes,
1:22:57
John C Dvorak: this is
worrisome. Yes, it's very
1:22:59
worrisome. She was sincere?
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't that she
1:23:04
was and what did she lie about?
What?
1:23:08
Adam Curry: Well, because there
was supposedly no proof,
1:23:12
whatever. Therefore she lied.
Therefore throw her in jail. But
1:23:15
there. But the real charge is
that she allowed unauthorized
1:23:19
access to these voting machines.
Yeah, after the fact, hey, I
1:23:22
know, I know these are
1:23:24
John C Dvorak: these.
Something's up with Arizona.
1:23:27
Yes, they stay away. Wasn't
really about her. This was about
1:23:31
anyone else who thinks they're
gonna
1:23:34
Adam Curry: poke around. Yeah,
don't do anything with with
1:23:36
those
1:23:37
John C Dvorak: you're gonna poke
around our area. Forget it.
1:23:39
Arizona's notorious for this
sort of thing, yeah, on both
1:23:42
sides of the of the political
spectrum. And
1:23:47
Adam Curry: with that, I'd like
to thank you for your courage.
1:23:49
Say in the morning to you, the
man who put the C in the covid
1:23:51
testing machine sent to Putin
Hey. Say hello to my friend on
1:23:54
the other end, the one only, Mr.
Jones in the
1:24:01
John C Dvorak: morning, to you,
Mr. McCurry, in the morning
1:24:03
should see boots and graffiti
the air subs in the water dais
1:24:05
out there. Hello.
1:24:13
Adam Curry: 1991 today in the
troll room.
1:24:17
John C Dvorak: It's good. The
average should be 1800 Okay, so
1:24:19
Adam Curry: we're doing welcome
Thursday. 100 extra trolls.
1:24:22
Hello, 100 extra trolls.
Welcome. Good to have you here.
1:24:26
They're at trollroom.io. No
agenda. Dot stream if you want
1:24:29
to listen. It's 24 hours a day.
All kinds of groovy shows on
1:24:34
that are a lot of more value for
most of our value for there's no
1:24:36
commercials. It's all value for
value. We're just doing it
1:24:38
because, hey, it's free airtime.
People love it, and that people
1:24:42
stick around in that troll room,
and they're not trolling around
1:24:45
24 hours a day, doing all kinds
of stuff, talking to each other.
1:24:48
It's a good place, a good time.
It's like a like an ongoing meet
1:24:52
up, basically. And then during
our live show, everybody tunes
1:24:56
in, and they become a part of
the program, like our live
1:24:58
studio audience, who have a say.
In the show sometimes, depending
1:25:03
or they just sit there and
troll, which is okay, too. You
1:25:06
can also receive this on a
modern podcast app. Get
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one@podcastapps.com I've been
using podcast guru like it a
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lot. You get, you get this early
notification. Well, first of
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all, you can listen to the live
shows right there in the app. So
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you subscribe to no agenda, the
podcast. When there's a new
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episode within 90 seconds of us
publishing it, boom, it shows
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up. You get alerted. But when we
go live even with, let's just
1:25:31
say, let's just say we had, we
decided we had to do an
1:25:35
emergency pod. It's never
happened and never will, but
1:25:39
let's just say we decided I
called you up, John. Hey, John,
1:25:43
I think we should do an
emergency pod. Emergency pod.
1:25:46
This is such big news. Got an
emergency pod? Can you name an
1:25:50
instance where we do an
emergency pod? No, not me,
1:25:53
neither. I can't think of a
single thing would have to do an
1:25:56
emergency pod. I
1:25:57
John C Dvorak: don't even if
Florida, for example, broke off
1:25:59
and fell into the ocean.
1:26:01
Adam Curry: Well, if California
broke off, I'd be calling for
1:26:05
me. No, no, no, no. Unless
1:26:06
John C Dvorak: I get Starlink,
1:26:08
Adam Curry: you better get one
for that emergency pod moment.
1:26:13
John C Dvorak: So regardless of
you have Starlink, you
1:26:15
Adam Curry: should so regardless
of when we start, you get alert,
1:26:18
and then you click on it, boom,
you're listening, it's perfect.
1:26:21
And there's all kinds of extra
bonus bits. You get transcripts,
1:26:24
so you can search in the
transcript, which is very handy.
1:26:27
Like, yeah, what were the boys
talking about? Yep, you go to
1:26:30
the transcript search, boom,
click. It plays right there.
1:26:32
It's very it's very handy. In
addition to that, you get things
1:26:37
like our chapters, so you can
skip around or skip forwards.
1:26:42
Best skip backwards with great
art. So a lot of the art that we
1:26:45
use there comes from our art.
Most of it comes from our Art
1:26:48
Generator, from our artists.
Thank you very much, Dr Scott
1:26:51
for doing that, and that's part
of the value for value model. We
1:26:54
have producers all around the
world. Brian of London sent me
1:27:00
this clip. I didn't clip it. It
was a guy on LBC, and he was
1:27:05
bitching and moaning how he
can't even get one jingle, even
1:27:08
a sound effect. That can't even
get a sound effect from this
1:27:11
company,
1:27:13
John C Dvorak: and LBC won't
provide him with that stuff.
1:27:15
Well, he
1:27:15
Adam Curry: says it takes 11
weeks. It's got to be, you know,
1:27:18
got to go through community,
legal,
1:27:20
Unknown: legal, it's got to go
through legal. Always go through
1:27:22
legal. And
1:27:24
Adam Curry: meanwhile, if I
said, Hey, give me a sound
1:27:26
effect of X, Y or Z, it would be
sent to me within five minutes.
1:27:29
I'd have it
1:27:30
John C Dvorak: at habit. One,
you're kidding. You get a dozen
1:27:33
even,
1:27:33
Adam Curry: yes, exactly,
exactly. And that's because
1:27:36
everyone is a producer of this
show. No one's just a casual,
1:27:39
haphazard listener. Know you're
a producer, and is your
1:27:42
responsibility when that topic
comes up, that one thing that
1:27:45
you're an expert in, you have to
let us know about it, like the
1:27:47
weather modification guy. I
mean, that's it's amazing that
1:27:51
we have these people in our in
our listening audience, and we
1:27:54
also have people in the national
it's
1:27:56
John C Dvorak: actually kind of
stunning. Well, it's a big
1:27:59
Adam Curry: club, and you're in.
If I
1:28:01
John C Dvorak: get to my science
clips, there's a there's a
1:28:04
couple of things in there where
I'm gonna actually request, oh,
1:28:06
good, some clarification from
people that are experts. Good.
1:28:10
We'll do
1:28:10
Adam Curry: it right after,
right after we're done, thanking
1:28:13
our our value for value
supporters. It's time, talent
1:28:16
and treasure. And we start with
the artwork that we chose for
1:28:21
episode 1701, we titled that
dork Maga. I was on one hand,
1:28:27
shocked on the other hand, kind
of mortified that I heard Kara
1:28:32
Swisher calling Elon Musk. Dork
Maga. Did we? Did she hear that
1:28:38
from us? Or did we somehow just
catch on to some kind. I
1:28:41
John C Dvorak: think we're in
the same way. Oh no, we, we were
1:28:44
on the same wavelength as Kara.
That's
1:28:47
Adam Curry: not good. That's
kind of disappointing. But when
1:28:51
John C Dvorak: he said, when he
said, dark, mega, the first
1:28:53
thing, I thought it was Darth
Magna, because I thought was
1:28:55
funnier, Maga, and then dork use
I think you said dork.
1:29:00
Adam Curry: I said, dork Maga,
yeah, dork Meg, I
1:29:02
John C Dvorak: wrote it down
immediately. And so you and Kara
1:29:05
are on the same wave.
1:29:07
Adam Curry: This is bad thing.
This
1:29:08
John C Dvorak: is bad. That's
why you listen to her. I must
1:29:10
repent you actually have a crush
on her.
1:29:13
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, that's it.
Uh huh, yeah, that would be it.
1:29:16
Right on. This was art which had
a DNA strand. It was it was
1:29:21
okay. We were happy with it. We
felt the choices weren't all
1:29:26
that. It was
1:29:26
John C Dvorak: a fallback piece.
Let's
1:29:27
Adam Curry: be honest. Tan
Staffel tonstaffel, who I don't
1:29:33
know if this is, is this
someone's nickname or I don't
1:29:39
know who is it? That's not tanta
Neal, it's Tom Stoffel. I
1:29:42
John C Dvorak: don't let
somebody new. It's not that. No,
1:29:44
no, it's not new.
1:29:45
Adam Curry: I think they've been
around. Well, no, not
1:29:47
John C Dvorak: long. First art
was submitted for episode 61
1:29:52
you're
1:29:52
Adam Curry: right, you're right,
but he's done
1:29:55
John C Dvorak: good work, he
1:29:56
Adam Curry: or she, he or she,
yes, a
1:29:59
John C Dvorak: lot of good.
Evergreen pieces, yeah, and it
1:30:03
must be a she, because if you
look at the logo of the tons, so
1:30:07
it's a girls, okay, well, then
she was for four months. She
1:30:11
Adam Curry: must be a Dutch
Master.
1:30:15
John C Dvorak: I we
1:30:16
Adam Curry: uncovered a new
Dutch master. Now we didn't make
1:30:18
it easy for everybody, because
we said, hey, you can't do any
1:30:23
Star Trek stuff. And I think a
lot of people had Star Trek
1:30:25
stuff in mind, because it was
episode 1701, starship 1701 USS,
1:30:30
Starship Enterprise. And I think
they got bummed out, and a
1:30:35
couple still did it. Of course.
I think no one had ideas. You
1:30:38
kind of liked the dog TV from
Dame Kenny Ben.
1:30:42
John C Dvorak: I did like it,
but it was simplistic looking.
1:30:45
Because if the dogs are more
dimensional, I think It'd have
1:30:47
been better and you would have
liked it. You hated it. But
1:30:50
okay,
1:30:51
Adam Curry: yeah, there you go.
I hated it. So, yeah, so we
1:30:54
didn't really have such a great
selection. Nose, little ham
1:31:00
radio, by the way, I just like
to mention so many people I
1:31:04
don't know about you. Are they
probably not emailing you
1:31:06
because they can't spell your
last name, but they've been
1:31:11
emailing me, hey, what radio
should I get? About a ham radio?
1:31:15
I
1:31:15
John C Dvorak: got a couple of
those, but not too many. And
1:31:17
Adam Curry: I would just like to
suggest that everybody we've
1:31:20
been doing this for over a
decade. I think,
1:31:23
John C Dvorak: I think you're
but wait, but your best line is,
1:31:25
wait, get a license. Yes, radio,
yeah,
1:31:28
Adam Curry: that's about what
I'm what I'm about to say, get a
1:31:30
license, not just because you
need to be licensed. And
1:31:34
actually, in an emergency,
anybody can use these things.
1:31:37
You know, the license deal is
not a big deal, but you go to
1:31:42
arrl.org, you find out where
they're testing. They do it once
1:31:46
a month. Just to reiterate, all
the questions for the test are
1:31:51
published with the answers they
won't ask you all the questions,
1:31:54
but all the questions they ask
you will have the exact same
1:31:57
answers, multiple choice, just
in a different order, so you can
1:31:59
memorize but you need, you
actually need to to do this to
1:32:05
figure out how this stuff works.
Because, you know, repeater
1:32:09
offsets and little things, just
little tips and tricks you need
1:32:12
to know in order to function
properly. Certainly on these two
1:32:16
meter or 70 centimeter ham ham
bands, you need to hook up with
1:32:20
some people. So don't just think
I can get a radio and then
1:32:24
Breaker, breaker, good buddy, Is
this thing on? Because it takes,
1:32:28
Unknown: it's
1:32:31
Adam Curry: not the Italian
guys, the span of security X,
1:32:35
security X, the hams are all
laughing now, trust me, now,
1:32:43
yes,
1:32:43
John C Dvorak: it sounds like
Mexican radio.
1:32:47
Adam Curry: Just do that. You
will not regret it. And it's,
1:32:50
it's easy, and it'll cost you a
total of 60 bucks to get it to
1:32:54
radius. By the way, that's with
the radio. You know, 60 bucks
1:32:57
with the radio
1:32:58
John C Dvorak: box is high.
Well, you looked at the prices
1:33:01
recently. Well, they
1:33:02
Adam Curry: got some really
spiffy the bow thing, things,
1:33:04
you know, they're about things
for 60 bucks, yeah, but you
1:33:08
want, okay, yeah, you can get a
lot of gear and and even
1:33:13
programming them is easy with
some software, but just get into
1:33:16
it. Spend a weekend, get into
it. It's worth it. You will not
1:33:19
regret it. You will not
1:33:20
John C Dvorak: regret it. And
you got a handy license you can
1:33:22
frame, yes,
1:33:24
Adam Curry: yeah. You can frame
your handy license, yeah, right
1:33:27
next to your Commodore ship,
next
1:33:30
John C Dvorak: to your Commodore
ship, next to your PhD next
1:33:33
year, your diploma from
community college and the
1:33:36
university. Whatever you got, I
have my
1:33:40
Adam Curry: Connecticut School
of broadcasting diploma. Very
1:33:44
proud of that
1:33:45
John C Dvorak: good they're very
proud of that long since
1:33:49
defunct, yes,
1:33:50
Adam Curry: but I still have
one. So thank you, tan Staffel.
1:33:56
Tan Staffel, for the artwork. No
agenda, Art generator.com. You
1:34:00
can participate. It's open for
anybody to participate. You
1:34:03
don't have to be good. You can
do whatever you want. And if you
1:34:06
want to upload AI art, that's
fine. I'm changing my tune. I
1:34:10
want as much AI slop on social
networks. I want the everything
1:34:15
flooded on the internet with
nonsense AI stuff to make it
1:34:19
unusable and unattractive,
particularly social networks. So
1:34:22
upload all your art to the
social networks so it can be re
1:34:25
ingested, and slop will be the
result, so we can kill this off
1:34:30
now to thank our executive and
Associate Executive producers
1:34:34
who sent in some treasure. We
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mean it's any less valuable to
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amount, at any time, any
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donations.com and we will kick
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Credit that is real can be used
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$300 and above, executive
producer, and we read your note
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as well. So Captain Luke from
Rohnert Park, California, comes
1:35:25
in with $1,000 and he says, Hi,
John and Adam, Captain Luke
1:35:31
Knight of the Barbary Coast.
Here, when John cleans out his
1:35:36
PO Box, he should find my first
donation check of $1,000 that
1:35:41
both bumps me up to Baron and
gets me, gets me a bonus boat
1:35:45
driver title. That's right,
Commodore boat driver title. So
1:35:50
henceforth I should be known as
Captain Luke Barron of Sonoma
1:35:53
County and commodore of all
coastal and riverine operations
1:35:58
therein. And he would like to
request old casbier and Al tazaj
1:36:03
Chicken. What is that? Altaz?
Are you familiar with that? That
1:36:07
John C Dvorak: is, I believe,
the chicken that everyone talks
1:36:10
about that's made at their chain
of restaurants in Saudi Arabia.
1:36:15
Adam Curry: Did you guys get
that? Oh, did they say they got
1:36:19
it? I don't know how they got
that, but they got it in
1:36:21
John C Dvorak: Okay, so the
recipe is available. You can
1:36:23
copy it. Oh, I
1:36:23
Adam Curry: don't think they
made it. I think they flew it.
1:36:25
It's
1:36:25
John C Dvorak: a it's a lure.
It's a long,
1:36:27
Unknown: uh,
1:36:28
John C Dvorak: soaked, uh brined
chicken that's in season this or
1:36:32
very everybody brags. Everybody
who's ever had this chicken, if
1:36:35
it's saying, what I'm thinking
of goes on and on and on about
1:36:38
how fabulous it is. Well,
1:36:40
Adam Curry: we'll be trying it
later on at the round table when
1:36:42
we give you your title upgrade.
No jingles, but I need an F
1:36:45
cancer for my son in law and
special F glaucoma, glaucoma
1:36:49
karma for my sister. That's
horrible. Thank you for your
1:36:53
courage. Says Captain Luke. And
so we'll roll out a double for
1:36:57
them.
1:37:02
Unknown: You've got karma.
You've got karma.
1:37:09
John C Dvorak: Remind Captain
Luke and everyone else that's on
1:37:12
this list that you get your
Commodore ship documents. You
1:37:18
are document you go to no agenda
rings.com, and fill out the form
1:37:23
so it gets sent to the right
place with the right title. Just
1:37:28
sent out 20.
1:37:29
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm excited to
get mine, because I want to take
1:37:31
the you should have
1:37:31
John C Dvorak: gotten it by now.
Should most, according to my
1:37:33
post office, you supposed to
have gotten it on Tuesday. I
1:37:36
Adam Curry: didn't get it on
Tuesday, and get it on
1:37:39
Wednesday. I'll check tomorrow,
and otherwise I'll go to the
1:37:41
post office and raise hell.
1:37:46
John C Dvorak: Uh, Terrell a
McMahan, I looked him up. I
1:37:49
couldn't find him in Bartlett.
Bartlett as in pair Tennessee
1:37:54
came in with 500 bucks. No, no,
no, nothing about anything. And
1:37:58
so we give him a double up.
Karma, you've
1:38:00
Unknown: got
1:38:02
Adam Curry: karma. Ronald,
sorry. Roland, Schneider
1:38:07
Granger, Texas, $500 and he
says, Commodore, SX 64 of Lake
1:38:12
Granger purchased SX 64 when I
was a teenager with money earned
1:38:16
from agricultural labor,
countless hours of basic fun.
1:38:20
Shout out down south to the
fishermen in CC, keep up the
1:38:23
good work. Got it. Thank
1:38:26
John C Dvorak: you. Game Bay
Area, wildfire, yes, forest
1:38:35
management. People get into that
Gilroy. She's in Gilroy,
1:38:38
California, and she came in with
another 500 bucks, and she is
1:38:43
saying, Your Bay Area, wire
wildfire, you guys are the best
1:38:49
stuck in us. Shout out to my
great friends, Kristen and Nikki
1:38:54
or Nick. Nick to another four
more years. Four more years.
1:39:00
Adam Curry: Mark alcoser Alco,
sir, I think Houston, Texas, 500
1:39:06
late. Congrats for 1700 shows
and happy early 17th
1:39:10
anniversary. Jobs karma, please.
Jobs,
1:39:12
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs.
1:39:20
John C Dvorak: Anonymous in
Silver Spring, Maryland, 500 and
1:39:25
all he or she says is Commodore
anonymous.
1:39:30
Adam Curry: All right, Commodore
anonymous, all right. Go to no
1:39:33
agenda rings calm and fill it
out. Make sure we get your
1:39:35
address and you'll be Commodore
anonymous. Steve banstra from
1:39:39
Nashville, Tennessee, who
doesn't know Steve $500 he says,
1:39:42
Now, when I'm at a dinner party
and someone tells me that they
1:39:45
went to Vanderbilt, I can tell
them I'm a Commodore anchored
1:39:49
down Steve banter, Baron of BNA,
1:39:55
John C Dvorak: another anonymous
comes in with $500 and says to.
1:40:00
Four more years. Four more
1:40:03
Adam Curry: years. Colin McLane
Argyle, Texas, 333, he says,
1:40:07
Rogan, donation, donation. And
please deduce me.
1:40:12
Unknown: You've been deduced.
1:40:17
John C Dvorak: Eli the coffee
guy, yeah, in bensonville,
1:40:19
Illinois, 210, 10, and he says,
I'd like to wish my wife,
1:40:25
Jennifer, a happy anniversary.
Thank you for joining me on this
1:40:28
journey called life. You're an
amazing wife, a mother and a
1:40:31
business partner. I'm true and a
good designer, by the way, I
1:40:34
give her credit for that. She
designed the packaging. Oh, I'm
1:40:38
truly a lucky man. Can I get
which saves money, by the way,
1:40:42
yes, it does. Money saver.
1:40:45
Unknown: That's good. Can
1:40:45
John C Dvorak: I get a boogity?
Boogity, boogity. Amen. And for
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true mom and pop up small
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1:41:02
guy,
1:41:11
Adam Curry: all right, we move
on to ZEV green in Teaneck, New
1:41:15
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We go out. We hit people in the
mouth, shut up.
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Adam Curry: right, you had
something you wanted to play.
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Yeah,
1:44:30
John C Dvorak: I want to do
these clips. This is a an
1:44:32
example. These are a total of
six clips. Oh, and it's they're
1:44:38
different, though they're not
just like one topic called Divi
1:44:41
depth. This is about the kind of
dingbats that you have doing
1:44:46
reporting nowadays, and this is
specific to NPR. Oh, well,
1:44:50
Adam Curry: like we haven't been
paying attention to them today.
1:44:52
We've been giving them a lot of
errors.
1:44:53
John C Dvorak: It's, yes, it's
like NPR kind of a focus to
1:44:58
let's focus on crap. Be
reporting. Let's start with this
1:45:01
one. This is the first this
dingbat report NPR on the this
1:45:06
is about the Honda. Honda's had
a big recall. And then we get to
1:45:10
listen to, I don't know, this
girl sounds like she's in the
1:45:14
11th grade, maybe telling us all
about the problem with the
1:45:19
steering mechanism on a Honda
car.
1:45:21
Unknown: Honda is recalling more
than 1.7 million vehicles
1:45:24
because of a defect in the
steering mechanism. Federal
1:45:27
regulators say the issue could
increase the risk for crash and
1:45:31
Paris Camila domino ski has
details. The recall
1:45:34
includes the Acura Integra Honda
CRV and the Civic family all
1:45:39
from model year 2022, or newer,
Honda thinks about 1% of
1:45:43
recalled cars actually have the
faulty part. It's a badly
1:45:47
manufactured worm wheel, the
part where the rotation from
1:45:51
turning the steering wheel turns
into turning a gear to turn the
1:45:55
wheels. Turns out that these
defective worm wheels can swell.
1:45:59
There's also a spring that's
wound too tight, add it up, and
1:46:02
you might get an abnormal noise
and a sticky feeling when you
1:46:05
turn the steering wheel.
1:46:07
Adam Curry: Wow, how
condescending is that.
1:46:10
John C Dvorak: So why do we even
have a reporter reporting on
1:46:13
something that you can just
read? The newsreader could have
1:46:16
read that, but they do this a
lot. I was looking at. In fact,
1:46:19
I went and looked it up on the
NPR personnel. They have
1:46:23
hundreds and hundreds of people
working there that just for this
1:46:27
purpose alone. That brings me to
the second group of clips. This
1:46:31
is the Sandia. It's about Sandia
Labs, which she pronounces
1:46:35
Sandia.
1:46:36
Adam Curry: I don't know why.
What is Sandy sand Sandia Labs
1:46:39
is
1:46:40
John C Dvorak: down in the
Albuquerque area, and it's a
1:46:43
should again. She might maybe
send Diaz the way it's
1:46:46
pronounced now, but this is a,
this is one of those examples
1:46:50
we've talked about it before in
the show where you have a
1:46:53
situation where you use the term
spokesperson instead of
1:46:58
representative, because you want
to make it clear that you're
1:47:01
using non, you know, language a
certain way. I believe NPR uses,
1:47:07
uh, brings on presenters that
are dei hires
1:47:13
Adam Curry: for their score,
their ESG score, for
1:47:16
John C Dvorak: their score and
and for bragging rights. And
1:47:20
they do it by they you could
bring in somebody who's who can
1:47:24
do presentation well, and they'd
be a dei hire, but if you're
1:47:27
listening on the right, you
wouldn't notice it. So that's no
1:47:31
good. So let's bring on a woman
that's got so much she's just a
1:47:35
lousy presenter. Can't she
screeches when she talks. She's
1:47:39
got see. I don't know if she's
black or Mexican or I don't. I
1:47:42
can't tell, but she's got a
ghetto sound to her that that
1:47:46
tells the listener, hey, I'm a
dei hire. Get over it, and here
1:47:50
we go. Do you
1:47:51
Unknown: worry that an asteroid
will slam into Earth and in all
1:47:55
life on this planet, perhaps
scenes from movies like
1:48:02
Armageddon keep you up at night.
We may have something to make
1:48:06
your sleep a little better.
Scientists may have discovered a
1:48:13
way to knock an incoming
asteroid off course. And for
1:48:17
anyone who ever wondered, why
don't we just throw a bunch of
1:48:21
nuclear missiles at it? Well,
you're kind of
1:48:24
right. So it's a little bit
different concept, but we think
1:48:27
it may even be more effective.
1:48:28
Nathan Moore led a team of
physicists at the Sandia
1:48:32
National Laboratories in
Albuquerque, New Mexico.
1:48:35
Adam Curry: All right, here's
how the meeting went. Hey guys,
1:48:38
I think we really we've had some
issues with with a younger
1:48:41
audience listening to NPR. We
need to hip it up a little bit.
1:48:45
I want some sound effects. I
want, you know, a young, young
1:48:50
voices, multicultural voices,
and let's just be a little bit
1:48:54
looser with the scripts. Yeah,
that'll do it.
1:48:59
John C Dvorak: Do you that would
be the meeting? Sorry. Well, I'm
1:49:01
sorry that would be the meeting
now. I now the problem is
1:49:04
reporting here is, which brings
me to the last couple of clips
1:49:09
coming up. Didn't
1:49:10
Adam Curry: we always do this?
By the way, do we already?
1:49:11
Didn't already throw, like,
crash something into a asteroid?
1:49:17
Well,
1:49:17
John C Dvorak: yeah, but that
was the landed to steal
1:49:19
something from it, I meant this
difference. And the thing is, is
1:49:23
that they're going to tell us
something that it makes no sense
1:49:29
and it's never explained. And
this is what, what the galling
1:49:32
part is, besides her voice, here
we go.
1:49:34
Unknown: The Sandia National
Laboratories in Albuquerque, New
1:49:37
Mexico, they have discovered you
just need to set off a nuclear
1:49:41
explosion near an asteroid, and
the burst of X rays will send it
1:49:46
safely off target. The idea has
been around for decades, but the
1:49:51
only way to test it is with the
nuclear weapon, and
1:49:54
those are difficult to come by,
so we invented a laboratory
1:49:58
experiment where we could test
this idea. Him to generate an
1:50:01
incredibly strong burst of X
rays in the laboratory. His team
1:50:06
used magnetic fields to produce
these X rays and recorded their
1:50:10
effects on two mock asteroids
roughly the size of tic tacs.
1:50:15
Not only does it work, but it
works better than we thought,
1:50:18
and
1:50:19
on any size asteroid. But Nathan
Moore cautions that all
1:50:23
asteroids are not alike.
Asteroids
1:50:25
come in many different flavors.
They're made of many different
1:50:28
types of rocks. We've only done
a test on one type of mineral,
1:50:31
so it will be important to test
this idea on different minerals
1:50:36
in our laboratory experiments to
develop a full understanding of
1:50:40
how we would deal with every
type of asteroid,
1:50:43
but it's good to know we humans
have options that those
1:50:46
dinosaurs didn't when it comes
to asteroids or when they come
1:50:50
to us.
1:50:51
It's certainly reassuring to
know that if we are surprised by
1:50:55
either a large asteroid or one
that shows up with very little
1:50:59
warning, if it needs a hard
shove, we have a way to deal
1:51:03
with it. Bruce Willis,
1:51:04
thank you for your service. Oh,
1:51:07
Adam Curry: my goodness, I'm
surprised he didn't say Axelrod.
1:51:15
John C Dvorak: The worst part
about this report is not even
1:51:17
her. It's how do X rays, which
have, no matter push anything I
1:51:25
would. I'm sure that maybe it
does. They do, but I don't know
1:51:28
how it does. I mean, when I have
an x ray, I'm not thrown back
1:51:31
against the table. It's like so
there's no explanation for how
1:51:38
this X ray also
1:51:40
Adam Curry: rude. Bruce Willis
is, is a vegetable. It's rude.
1:51:45
Is, and
1:51:45
John C Dvorak: then the Bruce
Willis reference is like with
1:51:48
Bon
1:51:48
Adam Curry: Jovi music,
1:51:50
John C Dvorak: that's rude.
1:51:51
Adam Curry: I agree. This is
peace NPR, right here. It's
1:51:54
over. That's it's enjoy.
Finally,
1:51:59
John C Dvorak: it exemplifies
the crap that they produce. And
1:52:03
it's also not explanatory. It
used to be educational. You
1:52:06
should learn something, you
learn nothing. So here we go to
1:52:09
this second group. Now this is
all the same. This is about more
1:52:13
science led pipes. And I want to
this is about this has got so
1:52:19
much lack of information.
There's no real reporting. It's
1:52:23
just as let's get rid of lead
pipes. They they never explain
1:52:28
as we go along, I'll try to
throw in what might be going on
1:52:33
because I have, because I would
like it Wait,
1:52:36
Adam Curry: didn't you? Used to
be a lead pipe inspector, no.
1:52:40
John C Dvorak: Oh, okay, and so
I would say that there is lead
1:52:44
pipes inch. There's just
information in here that is not
1:52:49
explained.
1:52:50
Unknown: Let's go. There are
some 9 million homes across the
1:52:54
US getting water through lead
1:52:55
pipes, and now the Environmental
Protection Agency says those
1:52:59
pipes need to come out. The
science
1:53:00
has been clear for decades.
There is no safe level of lead
1:53:05
in our drinking water.
1:53:06
That's EPA Administrator Michael
Regan.
1:53:08
He says lead
1:53:09
is harmful, especially to
children. And VRS
1:53:11
ping Huang has been following
the story, and she joins us now,
1:53:14
hi, ping. Okay, so I gotta
admit, I was kind of surprised
1:53:18
this wasn't already a rule. What
is the Epta saying about it?
1:53:22
Yeah, you would think, right. I
mean, it's definitely something
1:53:25
that water advocates have been
fighting for for many, many
1:53:27
years now. And the main thing
about this rule is that, for the
1:53:31
first time on the federal level,
it requires most water systems
1:53:35
to replace all their lead pipes
within 10 years. Now, Leila,
1:53:39
this is a problem with a long
history, but it got a lot of
1:53:41
attention 10 years ago with the
Flint water crisis in Michigan.
1:53:44
And there, there was a change in
the water chemistry that caused
1:53:48
old pipes to leach high amounts
of lead into the drinking water.
1:53:51
And since then, some cities and
states have actually already
1:53:54
been swapping out those lead
pipes for copper. Okay.
1:53:58
John C Dvorak: What did she say
at the end
1:54:02
Adam Curry: happen. I don't know
what she said, and they're just
1:54:04
filling air time
1:54:06
John C Dvorak: to play the
little end part again and tell
1:54:08
me what she said, word by word.
Crisis in
1:54:11
Unknown: Michigan. And there,
there was a change in the water
1:54:14
chemistry. There, there
1:54:15
Adam Curry: was a change in the
water chemistry. Wait, wait,
1:54:18
wait, I'm listening to
1:54:19
Unknown: each high amounts of
lead into the drinking water.
1:54:21
That's the tiny legs into the
drinking water. Some cities and
1:54:25
states have actually already
been swapping out those lead
1:54:28
pipes for copper. Okay,
1:54:29
Adam Curry: that last bit I
could not decode. Let me listen
1:54:32
again. And
1:54:33
Unknown: some cities and states
have actually already been
1:54:35
swapping out those lead pipes
for copper.
1:54:38
Adam Curry: Well, some states
have been a lot the selected
1:54:40
lapping hopper.
1:54:43
John C Dvorak: I could I listen
to this 10 times that I couldn't
1:54:46
figure out what she said, the
1:54:47
Adam Curry: leech and lop and
slopping hopper. Let me just
1:54:52
slapping swapping out the
swapping out the lead for
1:54:54
copper. How about that?
1:54:56
Unknown: And since then, some
cities and states have actually
1:54:58
already been swapping out those
lead pipes. Hopper, they've been
1:55:01
Adam Curry: slopping out the
slopping out the headphones for
1:55:04
copper. She said, Hopper, yeah,
how can we? We don't get gigs
1:55:09
like this. This is a great gig.
I wanted to slop and Hopper,
1:55:12
okay,
1:55:12
John C Dvorak: so let's right
away. We introduced it turns
1:55:16
out, besides that last bit,
which is, I had to stop it
1:55:20
there, because it's like, what
did, I still don't know what she
1:55:23
said, lappa, Hopper, slop and
hopper. So we got, let
1:55:28
everybody's got lead pipes show
title, slop and Hopper, slop and
1:55:32
hopper. So everyone's got,
there's lead pipes are
1:55:37
everywhere. But in Flint,
Michigan, it caused a problem,
1:55:40
and everyone got poisoned, and
they made a big fuss about it,
1:55:43
because of the water chemistry.
Yeah. What water chemistry? What
1:55:47
water chemistry? What changed in
Flint that all of a sudden
1:55:50
everyone got lead poisoning when
there's lead pipes. It turns out
1:55:53
the whole country is filled with
them,
1:55:55
Adam Curry: slop and hopper. So
1:55:59
John C Dvorak: what? What do? We
didn't distant. Tell me
1:56:03
anything. All I know is, if
there's lead pipes everywhere,
1:56:05
and they've been here forever
and and I also know that
1:56:09
elemental lead, elemental lead,
is not toxic. Even lick lead,
1:56:16
it's not going to do anything.
It's the lead salts.
1:56:20
Adam Curry: Ah, are you getting
all that? Are talks getting all
1:56:22
chemistry on me now,
1:56:25
John C Dvorak: but they never
talk about any of that. Let's go
1:56:27
with clip to a word they where
they still tell us nothing,
1:56:30
Unknown: right? It was clear,
even back then that it wasn't
1:56:33
just a problem in Flint. Are
there parts of the country that
1:56:36
are more likely to rely on lead
pipes?
1:56:38
Yeah, places with homes that
were built before 1986 that's
1:56:42
the year that Congress banned
lead pipes, but the ones that
1:56:45
were already in the ground were
allowed to stay there until now.
1:56:48
So there are lead pipes in every
state, but some have more than
1:56:51
others. Those include Illinois,
Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, New
1:56:55
York and New Jersey. All of
those states have over half a
1:56:58
million lead pipes. Wow. So
1:57:00
that's a lot of pipes. They're
gonna have to replace all those
1:57:02
in 10 years.
1:57:03
Wow. Yeah, it is a lot of pipes,
and for the most part, they will
1:57:07
have to but there are some
interesting exceptions. So
1:57:09
Chicago, for instance, has the
most lead pipes out of any city,
1:57:13
around 400,000 in Chicago alone,
and that's because they actually
1:57:17
required lead pipes there until
they were banned. So when this
1:57:20
rule was first proposed, Chicago
got a pretty big exemption,
1:57:24
something like 40 to 50 years to
replace all their pipes because
1:57:27
they just had too many of them.
And a lot of advocates pushed
1:57:30
back on that. They said it's way
too long. That's generations
1:57:33
more people growing up with lead
pipes. So in the final rule, the
1:57:37
EPA has tightened that up now,
instead of 40 years, they have
1:57:40
more like 20 to 25
1:57:43
Adam Curry: Okay, so a couple
things I learned here. One, no
1:57:45
wonder Chicago is retarded is
because they're all drinking
1:57:49
lead. And the other thing I got
from net Ned, he says Detroit
1:57:53
water was used until Detroit
kicked them off for not paying
1:57:57
their bill, and Flint switched
to a mothballed water treatment
1:58:02
plant from the Flint River that
was really polluted, just as an
1:58:06
aside, and we do better than
NPR.
1:58:09
John C Dvorak: Well, another
thing the question that comes to
1:58:12
mind when I heard that clip was,
why did Chicago demand the lead
1:58:17
pipes in the first place
1:58:19
Adam Curry: so that the
Democrats could keep winning
1:58:21
elections.
1:58:24
John C Dvorak: Well, that's an
interesting theory, but it's
1:58:27
like that. Why don't they tell
us anything? They there's, this
1:58:30
is a fact free Science Report.
They're, they're telling us
1:58:34
nothing, no. And, for example,
what is going on that causes the
1:58:39
let and even with the Flint,
Michigan thing. I still don't
1:58:41
know what the chemistry is. Now
I have some ideas. It's possible
1:58:45
that, for example, you can get
lead chloride. If you chlorinate
1:58:49
the water and run it through
lead pipes, you might get some,
1:58:51
some, some, some lead chloride
through to the drinking water. I
1:58:55
mean, that's one possibility. If
you look do any research at all,
1:58:59
and they don't talk about this.
If you have hard water, it coats
1:59:04
the inside of the lead pipe. So
the likelihood of toxic toxicity
1:59:07
is zero because there's a
coating. You know, anyone who
1:59:10
has hard water knows what the
problem is. It just calcium and
1:59:13
manganese just coat everything.
And so it makes the pipe
1:59:17
smaller, but it protects it, and
that's not discussed. And then
1:59:22
the sleeving thing, which is
what most people do in these
1:59:24
some of these areas, you run
plastic sleeves through the
1:59:27
copper pipe, and then you just
run the water through that, and
1:59:30
that solves the problem
immediately. And then there's
1:59:33
also solder joints they don't
talk about, which would leeches
1:59:36
through even when copper
1:59:37
Adam Curry: pipe. How come I
didn't call you for this Science
1:59:39
Report. Could
1:59:40
John C Dvorak: have called
anybody
1:59:41
Unknown: Shut up already.
1:59:44
Adam Curry: Science, yeah,
science, be quiet.
1:59:47
John C Dvorak: So they continue
with the non factual reporting
1:59:51
with the next clip. In touch
1:59:53
Unknown: with Brenda Santoyo,
and she's a water justice
1:59:55
advocate in Chicago, water
1:59:57
Adam Curry: justice advocate.
Nah.
2:00:00
John C Dvorak: Wow. Hey, water
justice, that
2:00:02
Adam Curry: should be our next
promotion. We can give out water
2:00:06
justice advocate diplomas.
2:00:09
Unknown: Okay,
2:00:10
Adam Curry: yeah, what? I have
a, W, J, a in Detroit. It's
2:00:15
Unknown: definitely progress. I
think that, like the city, the
2:00:18
state, should take, like their
own measures to
2:00:21
try to speed up that process as
2:00:22
much as it can.
2:00:24
We also don't want our water
systems to be set up for
2:00:27
failure, for them to take
shortcuts.
2:00:30
Yeah. She says that the timeline
seems reasonable, so long as
2:00:33
families are able to protect
themselves in the meantime.
2:00:35
Yeah. I
2:00:35
mean, even 10 more years seems
like a long time to be drinking
2:00:38
water that might have lead in
it. So what can families do to
2:00:41
protect themselves? Yeah, well,
step one
2:00:43
is figuring out whether they
have a lead service line. The
2:00:46
service line is the pipe that
brings tap water into your
2:00:48
house, and that would be the
most likely culprit. If you can
2:00:51
see that line, you can scratch
it with a coin. Try a magnet on
2:00:54
it. There's some guidance online
that can help you figure out if
2:00:57
it's made of lead, copper or
coated steel. And in case you're
2:01:01
wondering if it's easy to
scratch and a magnet does not
2:01:03
stick to it, those are some of
the signs that it could be lead.
2:01:06
They can also test their water
for lead. There are some water
2:01:09
districts out there that offer
free water testing so they can
2:01:11
check for that. And here's the
thing, even if there is lead in
2:01:15
the water, common home filters
can take them out. So pitcher
2:01:18
filters, faucet filters that are
certified to remove lead. All
2:01:22
these are really great
solutions, until the lead pipes
2:01:24
themselves get eliminated. I am
2:01:26
Adam Curry: very close to
banning NPR science reports on
2:01:29
this show. I'm very, very, very
close to it. This is bad. This
2:01:33
is very bad.
2:01:35
John C Dvorak: You have to
remember that NPR our national
2:01:37
treasure, and all these, these
public radio station began as
2:01:41
educational stations where the
where you should learn
2:01:45
something, you learn nothing
from these people. There's no
2:01:49
explanation for anything. It's
just blah, blah, blah, blah,
2:01:54
blah. Lead is bad.
2:01:57
Adam Curry: Yeah, that we could
have summed up that whole report
2:02:03
with what you just said there.
Blah blah blah. Lead is bad,
2:02:06
blah blah blah, all right, thank
you for this science moment.
2:02:16
You're welcome. I would like to
move to Israel and Iran and
2:02:24
what's happening. I have a
couple of clips, and I have some
2:02:27
analysis that I would like to
share with the group. We start
2:02:29
first with Biden and Netanyahu.
Finally speaking,
2:02:34
Unknown: President Biden today
spoke with Israeli Prime
2:02:36
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The
White House called their
2:02:39
conversation direct and
productive. However, one of the
2:02:43
big questions that remains is,
how will Israel respond to the
2:02:47
Iranian missile attack, and when
Israel's defense minister warns
2:02:52
it will be precise and deadly?
Amish news reporter Josh einer
2:02:56
is live in Tel Aviv tonight with
the story
2:02:59
well as precise and deadly, he
said, But he added, and above
2:03:02
all, surprising they meaning the
Iranians, he added, will not
2:03:06
understand what happened and
how. But as you point out, the
2:03:10
big question is when and if the
Israelis have decided that they
2:03:15
aren't saying tonight, one year
after President Biden came to
2:03:18
Israel and wrapped Prime
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and
2:03:21
a bear hug, the two leaders have
seen their relationship sour.
2:03:25
Netanyahu prosecution of the war
in Gaza and now Lebanon, but
2:03:31
eight days after nearly 200
Iranian missiles filled the
2:03:34
Israeli skies, Netanyahu and
Biden today spoke on the phone
2:03:38
to discuss Israel's plans to
retaliate.
2:03:41
The US and the Israeli
government have been discussing.
2:03:44
Have had discussion since last
week
2:03:47
after,
2:03:49
certainly since after the Iran
attack, and so that those
2:03:52
discussions continued with the
President and the Prime
2:03:56
Minister, the
2:03:57
White House has been trying to
convince Netanyahu to choose
2:03:59
conventional military targets,
and not Iran's oil industry or
2:04:03
nuclear program. And it all
comes at the holiest time of the
2:04:07
year in this holy land. Will
they try to do something before
2:04:10
the end of the week? Because at
the end of the week is the
2:04:12
holiest day on the Jewish
calendar, Yom Kippur, the Day of
2:04:16
Atonement. And at this time,
there is so much uncertainty
2:04:19
about what's to come. Now
2:04:21
Adam Curry: I ask you, in the
world of cyclical happenings,
2:04:25
wouldn't a second Yom Kippur war
be perfect? Oh, just in the just
2:04:32
in the cyclical nature of
things, and I'll come back,
2:04:34
John C Dvorak: interesting idea.
Just even think
2:04:37
Adam Curry: of that. Just a
thought. Now we go to NPR, and
2:04:41
let's just get a little update,
short one from from NPR. There's
2:04:45
Unknown: a lot of speculation
over whether Israel will respond
2:04:48
and what would be its targets.
2:04:51
Iranian foreign minister Abbas
energy, in this video by AP
2:04:54
news, warned Israel not to test
his country's resolve by
2:04:58
launching an attack, saying
Iran. His response would be more
2:05:01
powerful than last week's
ballistic missile attack. That
2:05:04
was in response to Israel's
killing of top Hezbollah and
2:05:07
Hamas leaders. Ergy said Tehran
stands fully behind its so
2:05:11
called Axis of Resistance, which
includes Hezbollah and Hamas,
2:05:15
and that he would soon be
traveling to Saudi Arabia and
2:05:17
other regional countries to
discuss Israel's offensives in
2:05:21
Gaza and Lebanon. There's
intense debate here in Israel
2:05:24
about the scale and target of a
potential attack on Iran. Many
2:05:28
experts believe it could be
against its energy sector.
2:05:31
Adam Curry: Okay, so bear that
in mind, and he's also going to
2:05:33
be roaming around talking to
people now we go to our retired
2:05:37
generals, and the first one
coming right out of retirement,
2:05:41
known for his seven count, the
famous Wes Clark seven is, in
2:05:46
fact, General Wesley Clark, and
he's going to lay it all out for
2:05:51
us.
2:05:51
Unknown: Do you believe Bibi
Netanyahu will pull the trigger
2:05:54
on Iran?
2:05:54
I certainly do, and I believe he
should all the tragedy and
2:05:58
Hamas, all that's going on with
Hezbollah is traceable to the
2:06:01
source, and that's Iran. And so
this is the moment, and this is
2:06:06
the situation in which Israel
has to strike and strike hard at
2:06:12
Iran.
2:06:12
Adam Curry: Guys. Hey, it's
number seven on the list. We got
2:06:15
this the final one. We got to
complete my West Clark seven.
2:06:18
What
2:06:18
Unknown: do you make of the move
by Emmanuel Macron to withhold
2:06:21
weapons.
2:06:22
Well, I think he's responding
probably to domestic pressure in
2:06:25
France, but it's a certainly
misguided effort. If he wants to
2:06:30
make a difference, he should
endeavor to have religious
2:06:33
leaders in France call together
common a bring common aid in
2:06:37
Jerusalem, have the pope there
tell common aid to renounce his
2:06:40
claims, his efforts to destroy
Israel and kill all its people.
2:06:45
Adam Curry: I love. I love this.
First of all, I like they. Says
2:06:48
common a, common a, instead of
Khomeini, he says common A. So
2:06:53
his idea is, get the Pope, bring
the pope over, have common A and
2:07:01
the Pope, we got to do a photo
op, common A, and we'll all
2:07:04
shake hands like a big Camp
David though in Israel, and
2:07:08
Khamenei and the Pope. And what
it'll be good if you
2:07:11
Unknown: go to the source,
that's the way you deal with
2:07:14
this. And Iran is the source,
and Khamenei is the key person.
2:07:19
One
2:07:19
more question for you. There
have been some who say that if
2:07:22
Israel were to strike,
particularly Iran's oil, that
2:07:26
this would spark world war
three. Give us your perspective,
2:07:31
considering all the years you
have as an experienced commander
2:07:35
Adam Curry: in ruining other
countries in NATO,
2:07:38
Unknown: well, I don't think
their strike on their oil is
2:07:41
going to spark world war three.
I don't think World War Three is
2:07:45
in the offing right now, but I
do say this Iran is on the verge
2:07:48
of having nuclear weapons. Maybe
it has them. Now. It has those.
2:07:52
Everything's different. This
regime in the in Iran, it has to
2:07:57
go now. I can change its tune.
If it says okay to live with its
2:08:01
neighbors, fine if it continues
to insist that its whole effort
2:08:06
is directed at the destruction
of a neighboring state in the
2:08:10
21st century, that's not
permitted. No. So this is a
2:08:14
moment for Israel to assert
itself, to strike back and to
2:08:20
gain dominance in the region
over Iran. So
2:08:24
Adam Curry: that sounds to me
like regime change is what he's
2:08:27
saying here. We just have to
change those guys. Everything
2:08:30
else is fine. It's not going to
start world war three. No
2:08:34
proving once again, we have the
best producers in the universe.
2:08:37
One of our producers was at an
investor dinner. And I This must
2:08:44
have been pretty high end,
because they brought in as a
2:08:47
dinner speaker, General Milley.
And our producer gave me a big
2:08:54
Mike, Big Mike, General Mike,
2:08:58
John C Dvorak: the other big
Mike, the
2:08:59
Adam Curry: other big Mike, gave
me a little rundown of what he
2:09:02
said. Took notes, and I think
it's it's worth sharing. History
2:09:05
is cyclical. He said, The Treaty
of Westphalia in 1648 ended the
2:09:11
30 Years War and set the West up
for 100 years of peace between
2:09:14
large powers broken by the Seven
Years War, the French and Indian
2:09:19
War around 1750 then the
constant state of war, until
2:09:23
Congress of Vienna established
the Concert of Europe in 18,
2:09:27
5015 then there was peace
amongst large powers for 100
2:09:32
years, until World War One, from
Fort to 1914 to 1945 with World
2:09:36
War Two, we are now 80 years
into the current peace
2:09:40
established by rules based under
imposed rules based order
2:09:45
imposed after World War Two. The
next 20 years will be very
2:09:49
interesting. China, Russia and
Iran have every incentive to
2:09:52
overthrow the rules based order
that's governed the world since
2:09:56
the Americans came up with it in
new in a New Hampshire hotel in
2:09:59
19. 44 he says that was Bretton
Woods, China building the
2:10:04
military with an eye on seizing
Taiwan. Xi says he wants to take
2:10:09
it by 2027 which would be the
100 year anniversary of the
2:10:14
People's Liberation Army. He
says, maybe, but China lacks
2:10:19
experience and may underestimate
the difficulty of it important
2:10:22
that they continue to wonder if
the US would intervene. Ah,
2:10:26
that's so we need to keep
rattling the sabers. Gaza,
2:10:31
Israel is responding to this
horrific attack. Imagine what we
2:10:35
do. They've been fairly
successful with their strategic
2:10:38
goal of destroying Hamas about
two thirds of the way there.
2:10:42
They haven't gotten all of their
leadership yet, but it's coming
2:10:44
soon. Their challenge going
forward is that they lack a
2:10:49
political message. All war is
politics administered through
2:10:52
organized violence. That's a
good statement.
2:10:56
John C Dvorak: I like that one.
2:10:57
Adam Curry: All wars politics
administered through organized
2:11:00
violence, need an alternative
path to sell it to the
2:11:02
Palestinians continued
collateral damage, civilian
2:11:05
deaths makes it harder. It may
require an Arab peace
2:11:09
enforcement troops, maybe from
Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia.
2:11:13
Notice, we have Netanyahu going
on a little tour Iran. Israel
2:11:22
will hit Iran, but they'll
probably wait until after the
2:11:25
High Holy Days conclude next
week, probably a mix of
2:11:28
military, economic and symbolic
targets. He said, Maybe I'm
2:11:32
wrong. They might go downtown
either way. Going downtown
2:11:37
either way, it will be a strong
message of, don't do that again,
2:11:41
but stopping short of delivering
a devastating hit, neither
2:11:44
Israel nor Iran won a full
direct war. But sometimes wars
2:11:47
happen even when they aren't
wanted. Would the US get
2:11:49
involved? Well, the country is a
third bigger than Iraq, with
2:11:53
bigger military, we could deal
with it, but at a significant
2:11:56
cost, so unlikely. Nuclear now,
they are only days or weeks away
2:12:01
from having enough uranium goo.
However, Millie says it will
2:12:06
still take quite a period of
time to package that into a
2:12:10
missile. So there's something,
there's something different from
2:12:14
from Wesley Clark,
2:12:15
John C Dvorak: it's always a
couple weeks away. Well,
2:12:17
Adam Curry: that's just for the
goo. It'll take much longer to
2:12:20
package it into a missile? Yeah,
they
2:12:21
John C Dvorak: keep changing the
target supremely. I'm I'm going
2:12:26
with our thesis that this whole
thing is a sham. I'm and the
2:12:32
fact that they've been talking
about the nuke, the nuke being a
2:12:36
week away, a week away, a couple
weeks away, four years, next
2:12:40
month, for a decade, years,
decade. Is it possible that at
2:12:44
some point years ago they
figured out they can't do this?
2:12:50
Maybe none of it works, and
maybe none of it works. And so
2:12:53
they're going to say, well,
let's, let's change our
2:12:56
policies, but we have to do this
slowly. So let's get rid of
2:12:59
this, these terrorist groups,
somehow we have to go in cahoots
2:13:03
with other people to do this,
because we can't do it, because
2:13:05
it would make us look bad. We
want to stay in power. And so
2:13:08
the whole, it's a whole thing
is, is is a, is a, is a sham.
2:13:14
The common needs, because
there's no evidence of the
2:13:16
contrary. And even if Israel
sends a couple of missiles over
2:13:21
there gonna hit anything, no.
And the 200 missiles that were
2:13:26
sent toward Israel, they didn't
hit anything. They killed some
2:13:28
one of them, but the poor guy
got hit by a fragment I sent you
2:13:32
that video. After the most
disgusting thing, you wonder
2:13:37
whether it's real car two that's
what I wonder about it. How does
2:13:42
Adam Curry: that even happen?
How does that even happen?
2:13:45
Anyway, he goes on to about the
future of warfare, which I think
2:13:49
is the final interesting point,
the nature of war doesn't change
2:13:53
through history, but character
of war does, tactics and
2:13:56
technology. Example, gun range
increased from 70 yards to 400
2:14:00
yards between American
Revolution and the Civil War.
2:14:03
Generals were slow to adapt to
it, and it was a bloodbath in
2:14:06
World War Two, the Germans,
Brits and French had had the
2:14:10
same new tank tech, radio comms
and air support, but the Germans
2:14:13
came up with the best system,
the panzer divisions, and
2:14:16
steamrolled Europe in 18 months,
including a larger French army
2:14:20
looking ahead, 1/3 of the US
military will be robots in 15
2:14:25
years, drone tanks, sailorless
ships, more UAVs, etc. China and
2:14:31
Russia will try to do the same,
armed robots, powered by here it
2:14:35
comes, AI and quantum computing
will have you
2:14:38
John C Dvorak: said, quantum
computing? Yes. Know what it is,
2:14:42
we'll
2:14:42
Adam Curry: have terrifying
capabilities. This way goes off
2:14:47
the rails, yeah? So we don't
need to invite General Milley
2:14:50
for our after dinner
conversation.
2:14:52
John C Dvorak: He's like, he
does have a historic he likes to
2:14:54
do his historic stuff, yeah,
doing historic stuff. And.
2:15:00
Analyzing it is hindsight doing
foresight. He's got nothing he
2:15:05
can't rope into the future robot
AI and quantum computing. Now,
2:15:09
Adam Curry: chum, I tell you, if
you really want to know what is
2:15:13
happening in the future of
warfare, we must look to the
2:15:18
NATO. And the NATO, as you know,
is now run by our former prime
2:15:24
minister from the Netherlands,
Mark.
2:15:27
Unknown: It's crucial for
Ukraine to prevail, and we have
2:15:32
to afford that. Putin has his
way with and in Ukraine, because
2:15:38
there's not only a problem for
Ukraine, there's also a threat
2:15:41
to all of us here in the UK,
2:15:44
Adam Curry: everybody, everybody
is threatened, huh?
2:15:47
John C Dvorak: I bought your
accent, yes, because I listened
2:15:51
to this. I think you, you've got
It's fabulous. I wish I could do
2:15:55
it, but there's a couple of
things you might want to do.
2:15:57
Okay? One, they go a lot more
than you do. Yes, okay. And the
2:16:05
other thing is, he changes his
Ruta, he changes his cadence, he
2:16:11
talks at a certain speed, then
he speeds up, and then he slows
2:16:14
down, and that little element
you have yet to Cat capture.
2:16:18
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, I will
2:16:21
John C Dvorak: just do it.
2:16:23
Adam Curry: Very good in the
future of us,
2:16:24
Unknown: here in the UK, all
over NATO, including Canada and
2:16:28
the US. If Russia would be
successful in Ukraine, it would
2:16:32
be a security threat to all of
us. So we have to massively,
2:16:35
massively learn how to speak
Russian. Continue what we are
2:16:39
doing first, and that is to put
military aid into Ukraine. Yes,
2:16:43
some aid to make sure that we
have enough training ready for
2:16:47
the soldiers, the brave soldiers
from Ukraine. And
2:16:52
Adam Curry: we must have some
training ready for the soldiers,
2:16:54
brave soldiers, brave very brave
soldiers.
2:16:57
Unknown: The brave people were
working there to the dead
2:17:00
people. You mean counter the
Russian Russian onslaught. At
2:17:03
the same time, we have to
implement what we agreed in
2:17:05
Washington during the summit.
But particularly, this is the
2:17:08
command we are now setting up in
Germany.
2:17:10
Adam Curry: Oh, command, oh,
Germany is going to take all the
2:17:13
hits. Great.
2:17:14
Unknown: Basically, coordinate
all the activities. Oh yes,
2:17:17
NATO.
2:17:18
Adam Curry: Oh yes. Let Putin go
get mad at the Germans allies
2:17:21
Unknown: and others to make sure
that this aid gets into Ukraine.
2:17:24
And of course, the so called 40
billion euro plus so
2:17:29
Adam Curry: called that is not
so called. It is heal, and we
2:17:31
stole it from the Russians,
2:17:33
Unknown: where we decided
collectively to make sure that
2:17:36
the money is available long
term. And this is, of course, at
2:17:40
least for the first year, but
then also longer term, we have
2:17:42
to find that money. Yes, and we
have to work on the bilateral
2:17:46
security agreements, as they are
now being negotiated between
2:17:51
Ukraine and various allies. He's
2:17:54
Adam Curry: negotiating between
Ukraine and various allies.
2:17:57
There's no letting up. We're
going to continue, continue to
2:18:00
how about the long range
weapons? But would
2:18:02
Unknown: you support Ukraine
being given access to longer
2:18:05
range missiles to be able to
fire those deeper into Russia?
2:18:10
Militarily, we've heard from
former senior commanders in
2:18:14
Europe saying that Ukraine's
allies need to be firmer that
2:18:19
dither and delay, as one of them
put it, is not in Ukraine's
2:18:24
interest. So would you
personally support the use by
2:18:27
Ukraine of longer range missiles
to fire deeper into Russia?
2:18:32
Adam Curry: Well, let me say
this about that.
2:18:34
Unknown: Let me be very
specific. First of all, Ukraine
2:18:38
is allowed illegally to strike
targets in Russia. When who
2:18:43
makes
2:18:43
Adam Curry: up these laws
2:18:46
Unknown: illegally? Leaders,
what
2:18:48
John C Dvorak: Yes, is there
some who edict? Was there some
2:18:52
is law passed?
2:18:53
Adam Curry: Is there some kind
of war? Law is Geneva? First
2:18:57
Unknown: of all, Ukraine is
allowed illegally, legally,
2:19:03
legally, talking about I mark
2:19:07
Adam Curry: Rita have said it is
legal. You can go ahead
2:19:10
Unknown: illegally to strike
targets in Russia when these
2:19:13
targets pose a threat to
Ukraine. So legally, this is
2:19:18
possible. Legally
2:19:21
John C Dvorak: go to court over
this. What are they talking
2:19:23
about? Yes, hello, Vladimir.
Just send the police in.
2:19:28
Unknown: And my second element
of my house will be that it is
2:19:32
not one weapon system which will
change the outcome of this
2:19:35
conflict. No,
2:19:36
Adam Curry: we need many weapons
spend the money. And
2:19:40
Unknown: then, of course, it is
up to the individual allies to
2:19:42
decide when they deliver weapon
systems into Ukraine, how they
2:19:46
can be used, what kinds of
commitments they give in terms
2:19:51
of for Ukraine, where is he
going to get specific like he
2:19:54
promised to use the systems?
This is not up to the alliance
2:19:57
as a whole. This is up to the
individual.
2:20:01
Adam Curry: All ally members.
Okay, one last clip from
2:20:04
Margarita about Ukraine becoming
a NATO member. We
2:20:09
Unknown: saw recently the Slovak
prime minister saying that as
2:20:11
long as he's in power, he will
block Ukrainian membership. What
2:20:14
are you going to do to try to
build consensus on that? Well,
2:20:17
clearly, what
2:20:17
we decided in Washington
unanimously is that there is an
2:20:22
irreversible path towards
membership of NATO for Ukraine,
2:20:27
irreversible.
2:20:28
Adam Curry: And then, of course,
yes, irreversible. Once they
2:20:31
start, they cannot go back. We
keep them going on the track
2:20:35
Unknown: towards membership of
NATO for Ukraine. And then, of
2:20:39
course, the question is, how to
take this to the next the next
2:20:43
steps and the next stage, and it
really has to be done step by
2:20:49
step. And that's something, of
course, amongst allies we will
2:20:51
discuss over the coming month,
including up to the Summit in
2:20:55
the Hague and beyond. Because
this is a very sensitive issue.
2:20:58
It is an important issue, yes,
but I said last week in Kyiv and
2:21:02
I visited Volodymyr Zelensky and
his team. Yes,
2:21:05
Adam Curry: with his team, we
had a nice team. I said, a drink
2:21:08
with his team. I visited
Volodymyr Zelensky. Is
2:21:11
Unknown: that one thing has to
be absolutely clear, one thing
2:21:13
that Russia does not have a vote
on this, and that Russia does
2:21:17
not have a veto on this? No,
that would not be legal. Every
2:21:22
country in the area of NATO can
apply for membership, and that
2:21:28
is a sovereign decision for that
inevitable country.
2:21:33
Adam Curry: What a sales guy,
and he comes across so
2:21:36
confidently. I'm Margarita. I
want to make it all happen. I'm
2:21:42
gonna get that Vladimir,
2:21:45
John C Dvorak: me and my boys,
irreversible. It's not
2:21:48
Adam Curry: it's it's legal.
Come on, man, pull the trigger.
2:21:52
It's legal. Do it? Do it.
Volodymyr, if anyone's gonna
2:21:56
start world war three, it's that
guy. Yes, that guy is no good,
2:22:02
and we know he's no good. The
Dutch know he's no good. We know
2:22:06
it
2:22:09
John C Dvorak: well. He's no
good, he's no good,
2:22:12
Adam Curry: he's no good. So
this came in, which I have let
2:22:19
me see. I think I have a longer
clip here. Let me play this a
2:22:23
longer clip. This is about
Google, Google and the
2:22:27
Department of Justice. And this
is interesting because I
2:22:31
received a document today that I
think pertains to it.
2:22:34
Unknown: So it is getting harder
and harder for markets to remain
2:22:36
complacent. Shares fell by more
than 2% yesterday, and as we've
2:22:41
been mentioning, alphabet is the
cheapest Magnificent Seven stock
2:22:45
by forward PE multiple. So yes,
cases, they can take years, even
2:22:49
if we have a decision, because
Google will appeal. But
2:22:53
injunctions, as we now see, can
take down walled gardens and in
2:22:57
the meantime, create openings
for competitors at Google's
2:23:00
bottom line, the judge in the
epic case ordered an injunction
2:23:04
yesterday that breaks open
Google's Android's App Store
2:23:07
monopoly. Now he ruled that for
the next three years, Google
2:23:10
must allow developers to bring
their own app stores to the
2:23:14
operating system. Now the aim is
to reduce fees for developers,
2:23:18
which currently must fork over
15 to 30% of their user payments
2:23:21
made within that Google
ecosystem, but by allowing them
2:23:25
to bypass it, bypass the walled
garden Google's App Store
2:23:28
transactions, they will take a
hit in 2019 the information
2:23:33
estimates that it made up 20% of
alphabets operating income. So
2:23:37
that is a significant amount.
Google says, for its own part,
2:23:41
that the verdict missed the
obvious, that Apple and Android,
2:23:44
quote clearly compete and says
it will appeal. But in the
2:23:47
meantime, this injunction could
do some damage. Now, the epic
2:23:50
case that's resulting in an
opening up, the potentially
2:23:53
bigger threat is a breaking up,
and that is in the cards for the
2:23:57
DOJ case, which we are expecting
remedies today, and it will
2:24:00
likely include a list of
options, from forcing Google to
2:24:04
give wider access to search
data, to restrictions on
2:24:07
exclusivity deals, to a breakup
of its business units. That, of
2:24:11
course, would be the most
extreme option.
2:24:13
Adam Curry: So this kind of
just, I mean, yeah, the epic
2:24:16
case has been going on for a
while, and the judge may have
2:24:19
some power to do some things,
but Google's going to appeal
2:24:22
everything, and they'll just
keep this going forever. But it
2:24:25
was in light. I played this clip
in light of a document I got to
2:24:29
just today, actually, from the
oil baron, from James Comer, the
2:24:34
Chairman of the Committee on
Oversight and Accountability,
2:24:37
with a scathing letter to Linda
Khan Khan, who is the FTC
2:24:45
Commissioner, and summarizing,
he's saying, Hey, you are a
2:24:52
shill for the Democrats. If
you're going out there, you're
2:24:56
doing all kinds of things. You
know. But you're, you're
2:25:00
shilling for the Biden Harris or
for the for the Harris team.
2:25:06
You're doing all kinds you're
running political cover, you're
2:25:10
threatening all kinds of
companies, and just reading
2:25:13
through this like, Huh? Do you
think that this what's happening
2:25:18
now suddenly that this is a
message to Google, like you
2:25:23
better. You better continue
doing what we agreed you do with
2:25:27
searches and how things show up
and what videos you surface or
2:25:33
don't surface on Google. On
YouTube feels like there's feels
2:25:38
like there's a little bit of
scam. Yes, yes. It's a scam. If
2:25:41
you're
2:25:42
John C Dvorak: going to go out
this idea about the about the
2:25:46
Google Store, yeah, what about
the Apple Store? Talk about your
2:25:50
walled garden?
2:25:52
Adam Curry: Well, Apple doesn't
have a huge consumer search
2:25:56
business.
2:25:58
John C Dvorak: Search thing that
that is different then, yeah.
2:26:00
And if the search is skewed, and
they wanted to remain skewed,
2:26:05
and they've got guests, they're
getting so much flack about it
2:26:07
that they're maybe they're, the
skew is not as bad as it should
2:26:11
be. It's got to be more skewed.
Yeah. I mean, this is the same
2:26:14
as the reports. I have a bunch
of clips on this. The New York
2:26:18
Times do it. Did I get these
clips? New York Times? Yeah,
2:26:22
yeah. This is kind of this talks
about, unfortunately, this thing
2:26:26
went on for 15 minutes. I don't
think I even got the gist of it
2:26:30
correctly, but it would. It was
just, was too hard, yeah, but it
2:26:34
was about how the left is
bitching about, and we noticed
2:26:38
this. Because you notice it. I
noticed it. If you go to
2:26:40
Mastodon, they're all these
lefties are on Mastodon,
2:26:44
bitching and moaning about the
New York Times are not going
2:26:47
after Trump enough.
2:26:48
Adam Curry: Oh my god, you mean
Jarvis and and Rose,
2:26:52
John C Dvorak: Jarvis and
everybody. Every journalist
2:26:55
that's on Mastodon is going on
and on about we should be more
2:26:58
proactive. Yes,
2:26:59
Adam Curry: you're not, you're
not doing it right. New the
2:27:01
broken hashtag, broken New York
Times,
2:27:05
John C Dvorak: yeah, and the
people that are still on the
2:27:07
dead bird,
2:27:11
Adam Curry: hey, get with it,
you old fogies podcast things
2:27:13
where it's at. And
2:27:15
John C Dvorak: so even play a
couple of these clips to see if
2:27:17
you can get a All
2:27:18
Adam Curry: right, just where's
this from? This New York Times
2:27:21
report. This
2:27:22
John C Dvorak: is a New York
Times report that another NPR,
2:27:25
fine,
2:27:27
Adam Curry: really. Sorry. Okay,
all right, here we go.
2:27:30
Unknown: Social media
influencers are a big part of
2:27:33
this year's election. They Whoa.
What happened to the podcasters?
2:27:37
Social media influencers are a
big part of this year's
2:27:40
election, they translate the
news for their followers, but
2:27:43
the news they spread has to come
from somewhere, often a news
2:27:46
organization. So we're talking
with a behind the scenes
2:27:50
influencer, Joe Kahn, executive
editor of the New York Times,
2:27:54
in people's minds, there's very
little neutral middle ground in
2:27:58
our mind. It is the ground that
we are determined to occupy.
2:28:02
Joe Kahn is a Pulitzer Prize
winning reporter who now runs
2:28:05
the times newsroom. We met him
at the Times headquarters
2:28:07
building in Manhattan. There is,
as you know very well, a long
2:28:11
standing conservative or
republican critique of the New
2:28:13
York Times, but the special
passion in criticism of the
2:28:17
times in this election cycle
seems to me to be on the left.
2:28:21
You're nodding. Why do you think
that is
2:28:23
it's a good question, and I
struggle with it often, because
2:28:27
the left has really high
expectations of the New York
2:28:30
Times. I think some of them
honestly distorted.
2:28:35
John C Dvorak: I just thought
that was such a giveaway. Yeah,
2:28:38
he's nodding. Yeah. I don't get
it. I don't understand why the
2:28:41
lefty, because they're always
been our biggest fans. Yeah, I
2:28:46
said we were, oh, that you said,
Oh, I
2:28:50
Adam Curry: know it's like 15 to
13. Now, I know, I know it's
2:28:54
bad. I blame Tina.
2:28:55
John C Dvorak: It does help when
you point it out. Yes. So let's
2:29:01
just part two of this. If you've
2:29:04
Unknown: heard about Project
2025, a conservative blueprint
2:29:07
for a future Republican
administration, one reason may
2:29:10
be that the times covered it a
lot last year. You
2:29:13
know that's something that you
want to cover deeply, fully,
2:29:16
fairly, and provide people with
some substance to analyze that.
2:29:21
I'm thinking of one particular
story that we could pluck out of
2:29:24
the river of Times coverage. And
I paraphrase here, but the story
2:29:28
used the word plan. Harris has a
plan for housing. Trump has a
2:29:31
plan for housing, and Trump's
plan is he's going to deport
2:29:35
illegal immigrants and make more
room for everybody else. And I
2:29:37
thought to myself, That's not
actually a plan, that's a
2:29:40
slogan, and I'm just trying to
describe it accurately. Is that
2:29:44
an example where maybe you were
trying a little too hard to be
2:29:47
fair to each side?
2:29:52
John C Dvorak: How is that being
fair to each side? And this guy
2:29:55
never what is Harris's plan? If.
It's never reported what his
2:30:02
what her plan is, and this guy
was doing the reporting from NPR
2:30:06
is obviously a Trump hater,
yeah, and it just comes through
2:30:10
with this discussion. And I
think part three maybe bring a
2:30:13
little more light to it. Well,
2:30:15
Unknown: I think what we've
tried to do with respect to
2:30:17
housing is housing's an
absolutely major problem. And we
2:30:22
basically took it to both
campaigns and said, What would
2:30:24
you do about this concretely?
Not just talk about it
2:30:27
rhetorically, but what are your
plans? And Harris and the Harris
2:30:31
campaign responded, and we
looked at their proposals and
2:30:34
what they would do to move the
needle on that subject, and we
2:30:37
asked the same thing of the
Trump people, you're absolutely
2:30:40
right. Their response was, we
will deport immigrants who are
2:30:46
occupying too much housing and
free that housing up for
2:30:50
American citizens. And I think
we frontally pointed out in that
2:30:54
piece that there's extremely
little evidence that illegal
2:30:57
immigrants who would be deported
are occupying a significant
2:31:00
chunk of housing, it would make
any difference at all in the
2:31:03
affordable housing crisis. That
2:31:05
was one of Khan's defenses
against the claim that his paper
2:31:07
is soft pedaling. Donald Trump,
2:31:11
John C Dvorak: what? How is that
soft pedaling? Donald Trump,
2:31:17
they criticized his whole plan,
never mentioning what Harris's
2:31:20
was, and this is somehow soft
peddling
2:31:24
Adam Curry: here. Jeff Jarvis
posts a link to a New York Times
2:31:27
opinion joy is working for
Harris. But can it close the
2:31:31
deal? Jeff Jarvis's post sigh,
the media trope that voters need
2:31:39
to learn more about Harris,
well, then do your job and
2:31:42
inform them That's your job.
2:31:48
John C Dvorak: Wow, yeah, you
probably just read those kinds
2:31:51
of posts on mastodon. They're
not on Twitter, yeah, and I'll
2:31:56
find them keep us entertained
for days.
2:31:59
Adam Curry: Hashtag. Brokenpost
calls this, we are going to beat
2:32:02
the reporters into retardation,
pugnacity, ridiculous peace. Why
2:32:07
might he lose women? He's a damn
sexual predator. Say it is the
2:32:11
Trump campaign's male dominated
culture losing women vote. Oh,
2:32:19
my God. And then he posts the
Washington Post. What a pissy
2:32:24
jealous piece of shit. This is
from the hashtag brokenpost. Oh
2:32:28
god. Jeff Jarvis, calm down.
Take a CBD. It's grab a gum,
2:32:39
John C Dvorak: grab something. I
mean, it's like, these are
2:32:43
posted. These
2:32:43
Adam Curry: are professionals.
2:32:45
John C Dvorak: It's journalism.
They're not opinion. They don't
2:32:49
do it. If they were just opinion
writers, and this is an opinion
2:32:52
that's fine, but that's not what
they claim to be. The whole
2:32:55
Adam Curry: thing is falling
apart. That's the point. The
2:32:57
whole mainstream media is
falling apart. They can't stand
2:33:01
that people get their news from
Twitter. They can't stand that
2:33:04
podcasts have millions of
listeners, and people like call
2:33:08
her daddy and Rogan make
hundreds of millions of dollars.
2:33:12
They're beside themselves with
envy and anger, and they just
2:33:16
take it out on anything they
can. It's all Trump's fault?
2:33:21
Well, of course, because he he
told everybody the fake news is
2:33:25
the enemy of the people. And the
people went, huh, that's an
2:33:27
interesting point.
2:33:31
John C Dvorak: What I the
biggest kick I get out of this
2:33:34
when he talked about it
initially, back in 2015 he said,
2:33:38
and he made a point, says, Well,
you know? I said, Well, they're
2:33:40
saying the news was the enemy of
the people. And they said, No. I
2:33:43
said, the fake news is the enemy
of the people, right? It turns
2:33:46
out that the original assertion
was true. It's the news. It's
2:33:50
not the it's all of them.
They're the, literally, the
2:33:54
enemy of the people. Yes, they
lie. And then you can see when
2:33:57
it starts to come out of guys
who are supposedly journalists.
2:34:01
And suppose you know reporters
and people are supposed to be
2:34:04
objective, they're not
objective, and that those tweets
2:34:07
from Jarvis are a good example.
That's not objectivity. Let's
2:34:10
give nothing but free coverage
to Harris, because she's such a
2:34:14
genius. She is a moron. Jeff,
she's an idiot. You can see it
2:34:19
in her eyes. You can see it in
her responses. She's a stupid
2:34:23
human being, and that's beyond
me that anyone does. Can't see
2:34:26
this. It's it's obvious to most
people.
2:34:30
Unknown: Go podcasting. I was
2:34:33
John C Dvorak: wondering what
you're gonna come up with.
2:34:38
Adam Curry: Do we need to play
more of this? We need to
2:34:41
John C Dvorak: know the last
thing is another, completely
2:34:43
different topic, and it's just
not important. All right.
2:34:45
Adam Curry: Well, then let me,
let me just play this one,
2:34:48
because you won't, you won't
read this on x. It will be
2:34:51
suppressed. You heard it here
2:34:53
Unknown: for months. American
billionaire Elon Musk has been
2:34:56
in the tug of war with the
Brazilian courts, but he has
2:34:58
proven to be out. Muscled X will
once again be available in
2:35:02
Brazil, as the Supreme Court on
Tuesday, ordered the
2:35:06
reinstatement of the social
network throughout the country.
2:35:09
X welcome the news. X
2:35:11
Adam Curry: is proud to return
to Brazil. We will continue to
2:35:14
defend freedom of speech within
the boundaries of the law
2:35:17
everywhere we operate.
2:35:20
Unknown: Supreme Court Judge
Alexandra de Morice cited
2:35:23
insufficient safeguards against
disinformation when blocking x
2:35:27
in August, a ruling that ex
owner Elon Musk vowed to fight,
2:35:31
but instead he capitulated. In
addition to paying a fine of
2:35:35
nearly 5 million euros, the
social network has agreed to
2:35:38
appoint a new legal
representative in the country
2:35:41
and delete accounts with links
to the far right. One of the
2:35:45
reasons for Musk's change of
heart pressure from investors.
2:35:49
With its 22 million users,
Brazil is the largest economy in
2:35:53
Latin America and a major source
of revenue for X, another of the
2:35:58
American billionaires,
companies, Internet Service
2:36:00
Provider Starlink also suffered
from excess suspension. Its bank
2:36:05
accounts and financial assets
were temporarily frozen in order
2:36:08
to cover fines and post on x
2:36:11
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, I guess
money does matter over free
2:36:14
speech
2:36:15
John C Dvorak: free Well, it
would for you too. It would for
2:36:18
anybody's not dumb, no,
2:36:20
Adam Curry: but I'm not going
out there saying, Man, I'm never
2:36:22
gonna do it. We gotta Screw you.
Nugget, I preach speech. I mean,
2:36:29
What? What? Oh, what'd you say?
Investor, what? Starling, okay,
2:36:35
John C Dvorak: whatever you say
goes all right. Of course he
2:36:39
did. Of course he wasn't. It was
a foregone conclusion he wasn't
2:36:42
going to put up with his assets
being seized. And he knows these
2:36:45
South American countries, they
love to nationalize stuff. Yes,
2:36:53
that's nationalized. Starling,
yeah,
2:36:57
Adam Curry: I have one more
story here, just a little
2:36:59
update, because, speaking of
Elon, when is he going to take
2:37:03
over Boeing? Sticking
2:37:04
Unknown: with corporate news
talks to end the month long
2:37:07
strike at Boeing have broken
down and are not slated to
2:37:10
resume at this time, Boeing
seemed especially frustrated
2:37:14
with the union representing
roughly 33,000 striking
2:37:17
machinists, a Boeing executive
told employees in a note. Quote,
2:37:21
unfortunately, the Union did not
seriously consider our
2:37:25
proposals. As a result, Boeing
has ripped up an offer it called
2:37:29
its quote best and final that
would have boosted pay by 30%
2:37:34
the union, however, is not
backing down. Union members are
2:37:37
holding out for a 40% raise as
part of a long list of
2:37:41
grievances. Quote, they refuse
to propose any wage increases,
2:37:44
vacation, sick leave, accrual,
progression, ratification bonus,
2:37:48
or the 401 K match. The Union
told Reuters, adding both, they
2:37:52
also would not reinstate the
defined benefit pension. The
2:37:56
strike has pushed Boeing deeper
into the red. It's estimated to
2:38:00
lose $1 billion a month,
according to s&p Global ratings,
2:38:04
on top of the $60 billion debt
it is already carrying. With
2:38:09
production shut down, Boeing is
being forced to furlough
2:38:12
workers. It is also exploring
money raising efforts to remain
2:38:15
afloat while the picket line
proves to be an impenetrable
2:38:19
force.
2:38:20
Adam Curry: This is bad. They
have effectively, negotiations
2:38:24
are just done. They I was their
last and final offer. If you
2:38:28
remember, this is bad? Yeah,
it's bad for workers. It's bad
2:38:34
for our aero Defense, Space
industry, yeah, yeah, so, but I
2:38:40
don't know how we're gonna make
all those
2:38:41
John C Dvorak: flying unlucky
jets again and
2:38:44
Adam Curry: and these, uh, boa
and this is not really
2:38:47
discussed. Is this only the
aircraft division, or is this
2:38:50
all of Boeing? Does this include
the the bomb guys and the F 35
2:38:54
guy? What'd be everybody? Yeah.
I mean, how are we gonna get
2:38:59
John C Dvorak: to a billion a
month that affects all the
2:39:01
divisions, how
2:39:02
Adam Curry: are we going to get
Margarita all of his his
2:39:05
weapons?
2:39:07
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
there, there you go. That's the
2:39:09
main concern.
2:39:10
Adam Curry: Yes, I think Elon
should expand his military
2:39:15
contracting empire.
2:39:17
John C Dvorak: I think he
launched to take over bowling.
2:39:19
Yeah, he
2:39:19
Adam Curry: can pretend he
invented that it's no problem.
2:39:23
Unknown: Oh, I'm gonna show
2:39:24
my saloon by donating to no
agenda. Imagine all the people
2:39:28
who could do that.
2:39:29
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun. We
2:39:37
Adam Curry: want to thank the
rest of our producers who sent
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in some treasure for us to
enjoy, and we appreciate any
2:39:44
amount anybody sends at any
time. You can make that up
2:39:47
yourself. There's no obligation.
We have no premium content
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offerings. We are the premium
content we give it to you right
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up front. No hoops, no paywalls,
no jumps you got to make. You
2:39:58
just say no. I got some value
out of that today from these
2:40:01
guys. So we send something back
to them. We read everything,
2:40:05
every note, every donation, $50
and above. What are you
2:40:08
drinking?
2:40:10
John C Dvorak: I'm not drink
that was just me doing nothing.
2:40:12
You just I want to mention, as
you go on and on, that we did
2:40:16
not again, get any donations
from Elon Musk. No, no. Really
2:40:21
ever get him.
2:40:22
Adam Curry: I wonder why. I
wonder why. Hey, you can you
2:40:28
can, you can you can post it on
X for free. All right, John,
2:40:37
take us through the 50s. Yeah,
2:40:39
John C Dvorak: we have a few
people to thank, starting with
2:40:41
David, knew it in Mason Texas.
Where's Mason Texas? It's
2:40:45
Adam Curry: right above. I don't
know. I don't have anything
2:40:49
John C Dvorak: to do the Mason
Dixie line. No,
2:40:51
Adam Curry: I don't think so. I
don't know for sure. I don't
2:40:54
know for
2:40:54
John C Dvorak: 170 bucks, Anna
Johnson and Blaine Washington,
2:40:58
$141 and she's wishes a happy
41st 41st birthday to her. Her
2:41:03
smoking hot husband. Mark,
2:41:05
Adam Curry: nice.
2:41:07
John C Dvorak: She needs a
deducing.
2:41:10
Unknown: You've been deduced.
2:41:13
John C Dvorak: Good old Rita
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Dame Rita one, three, 3.33. She
does say this, you two always
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hit the nail on the head. Bam,
yeah. No, already. It's Kevin
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McLaughlin, conquered North
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person in Aledo, Texas, Mark
Hardwick, as a matter of fact,
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5333 I don't know why his name's
missing from the blind Brittany.
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Is it missing on yours? Yes.
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Anna at Illinois. 5272 he is Sir
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They did the T scan on my dad
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We have one report today. It's a
very mini report. You'll recall
2:48:05
sir Andre of the empty PayPal
became sir Andre of the broken
2:48:09
brain, and he had to go into the
hospital and is rehabilitating,
2:48:14
and half of his side is one.
Half his body is paralyzed. And
2:48:19
so the folks over there in the
Netherlands decided to do a
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little mini meetup with mini
meetup with him.
2:48:23
Unknown: This is Frank aka Mike,
meetup report, sixth of October,
2:48:27
from Luz bake.
2:48:30
Hi in the morning, Dame Pam, in
the morning. So Andre night with
2:48:35
a broken brain, and I've got two
visitors in my hospital room
2:48:38
here, Frank aka Mike, and dame.
Pam, I'm so happy with all the
2:48:42
visitors that are coming from
the NA group in the morning.
2:48:45
Thank you for your courage
2:48:47
in
2:48:49
Adam Curry: the morning. I love
that. There you go. Connection
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is protection. That's what those
no agenda meetups are about. You
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meet people who will even visit
you in the hospital when your
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brain is broken. I'm telling
you, you need to go to one of
2:49:01
these. And you could actually go
to the northern wake, publical
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slave gathering six o'clock
today in Raleigh, North
2:49:07
Carolina, at hoppy endings, or
Saturday, Michigan, local one
2:49:11
assembles for the meetup by the
bay at two o'clock in Barb bark.
2:49:16
Wow, was it barqub. Barqub BC.
Barqu BC. Bay City, Michigan.
2:49:21
Check no agenda meetups.com. To
make sure I said that right. The
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Treasure Valley meetup will be
taking place at three o'clock at
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the Heritage social club in
Garden City, Idaho. Also on
2:49:31
Saturday, the six week cycle.
Threat number two, our democracy
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Oktoberfest meetup, 333 at
sabalas Mexican Grill in Fort
2:49:39
Wayne, Indiana. And our next
show day on Sunday, the too many
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eggs.com. Meet Up. Number seven,
margaritas, Keene in Keene, New
2:49:47
Hampshire. Here's what's on the
way. We have Charlotte, North
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Carolina, on the 17th,
Fredericksburg, Texas, the big
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one, curry and the keeper will
be there. Please join us for
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that. Lot of people coming in
for that one that's right here
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in Fredericksburg. The nine.
19th, Bedford, Texas on the
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20th, Cincinnati, Ohio,
Okeechobee, Florida, Spearfish,
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South Dakota, Alpharetta,
Georgia on the 26th LaGrange,
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Illinois, London, UK, Ottawa,
Ontario, Houston, Texas on the
2:50:13
28th Minneapolis on the second
of November. Richland,
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Washington, Pittsburgh,
Pennsylvania, Emeryville,
2:50:18
California on the ninth,
Bedford, Texas and Bastrop
2:50:22
Texas. Whoa, are we doing duly
meetups on the 10th, Ocala
2:50:26
Florida on the 11th,
Springfield, Missouri, the 16th,
2:50:29
Bedford, Texas, again, shekopy,
Minnesota on the 16th,
2:50:33
Sacramento, California. 27th
we're into December. Goleta,
2:50:36
California on the fifth, West
Palm Beach Florida on the 15th,
2:50:40
and at Ventura, Florida on
January 19, just a few of the no
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agenda meetups that go well into
2025, and beyond. Please join
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one of these at least once. I
guarantee, I guarantee you, you
2:50:52
will want to go to more because
it's just like potato chips. You
2:50:56
crunch one and you can't stop no
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protection. Go to no agenda
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2:51:02
storm one yourself like a
2:51:22
party. Like a party, like a
party, okay, ISOs. This is where
2:51:27
we choose the ISOs, the end of
show. ISOs that always leave you
2:51:30
with just that little, oh, boy,
I love that show.
2:51:33
John C Dvorak: I'll be at the
Emeryville meetup. Oh, you will
2:51:36
Adam Curry: nice. Is that
another get John out of the
2:51:39
house meet up where you just
Yes,
2:51:40
John C Dvorak: it is, and it's,
but it's gonna be at the trader
2:51:43
vix in Emeryville, and you have
the date there, and it is, see
2:51:50
Adam Curry: on November 2.
2:51:53
John C Dvorak: This is November
2. That's what it says. Yeah,
2:51:56
that will Are you available? Are
you available? That's family
2:52:00
friendly, so people can go there
with your kids, with the kids,
2:52:03
so we can get to see violet
again. Oh, specifically, okay.
2:52:09
Oh, nice. Um, let me see. Yeah,
I got ISO. What do you got? How
2:52:13
many I
2:52:13
Adam Curry: got four. I'll play
them for you. It's
2:52:15
Unknown: just wrong.
2:52:18
Adam Curry: Have that one I
have,
2:52:19
Unknown: of course I have, okay,
heads, I win.
2:52:24
Adam Curry: Tails, you cheated.
And so what? Okay, I think the
2:52:30
so what is at least worth
considering? Oh, okay, well,
2:52:35
sorry,
2:52:36
John C Dvorak: okay, let's start
with I have two, but they're
2:52:39
gems. One is sexy.
2:52:41
Unknown: How can those two be so
sexy? Oh,
2:52:44
Adam Curry: wow, already a
winner in my book.
2:52:47
John C Dvorak: And then this is
one of the podcast ones
2:52:50
Unknown: that is the best
podcast ever. Oh,
2:52:54
Adam Curry: I don't know which
one to choose. Ah,
2:52:57
Unknown: how can those two be so
sexy?
2:52:59
I like that. That is the best
podcast
2:53:02
ever.
2:53:04
Adam Curry: I think it's got to
be the best podcast ever. What
2:53:07
Unknown: do you think?
2:53:09
John C Dvorak: Yes, muddier
though, but it is more
2:53:14
appropriate. It's
2:53:15
Adam Curry: funny, it's funny,
it's good, it's good. What does
2:53:18
the troll room say? They're both
too long. Okay, trolls, thank
2:53:21
you.
2:53:22
Unknown: Hey everybody. It's
2:53:22
Adam Curry: time for that moment
at the end of the show, John's
2:53:25
Tip of the Day.
2:53:32
Unknown: And sometimes,
2:53:36
John C Dvorak: okay, so I have
to, I'm gonna do two couple
2:53:39
things today.
2:53:40
Adam Curry: Oh, you're going
crazy.
2:53:42
John C Dvorak: First one is, we
had to do a quick search on
2:53:44
something, right? But
2:53:45
Adam Curry: you got to stay on
the mic, because you, whenever
2:53:47
you like, I'm on
2:53:48
John C Dvorak: the mic. If I
wasn't on the mic, I don't know
2:53:50
what I mean, near the mic, it
was I'm right on top of it, off
2:53:55
Mike. If I was any closer to the
mic, to be behind me. Okay,
2:53:58
well, try that. First of all, I
want to kill the recommend a
2:54:03
previous tip. You're killing a
tip.
2:54:06
Adam Curry: Killing a tip. Does
it have to be removed from Tip
2:54:08
of the day.net?
2:54:10
John C Dvorak: Now you can leave
it there, but I think it has to
2:54:12
have a disclaimer. It's the
AliExpress.
2:54:17
Adam Curry: AliExpress is is no
good.
2:54:21
John C Dvorak: But that brings
us to today's tip, AliExpress is
2:54:26
no good because I purposely
bought two flash drives, some
2:54:31
drives, USB drives, whatever you
want to call them advertising,
2:54:35
whatever you want to call them
from AliExpress,
2:54:38
Adam Curry: I call them threat
vectors
2:54:40
John C Dvorak: that I knew were
phonies, because you don't buy a
2:54:43
terabyte USB drive for three
bucks. They just just no such
2:54:49
thing.
2:54:49
Adam Curry: Wow, there was no
shipping and handling, so you
2:54:52
pay it came to your door for
three bucks. So $6 total. You
2:54:55
got two terabyte thumb drives,
and what did you were they Pesta
2:54:59
spend? What were they? They were
2:55:02
John C Dvorak: used to they, if
you put them through a system,
2:55:04
which is what I'm going to
recommend, is the tip of the
2:55:06
day, there are products out
there. And the one I'm going to
2:55:09
recommend is a thing called
Check flash, which is written by
2:55:13
Ukrainian. And I think the
current version out is 1.1 1.1
2:55:19
7.0, and it was written by
Ukrainian, and it you've sticked
2:55:26
to when you buy the drive. You
had to do this at the beginning,
2:55:29
because it erases everything. It
will check to see if your
2:55:33
terabyte drive really contains
anything near a terabyte. So you
2:55:37
so if you get a bad drive, like
these phony drives I bought from
2:55:41
Ali Express. You stick it in
says, No, this is not a terabyte
2:55:45
drive. This not a or 500
gigabyte drive. It's a it's a
2:55:50
one kilobyte drive. But the
header inside the drive will
2:55:58
say, Oh, yeah, terabyte. You're
gonna got a terabyte. So you
2:56:01
start putting something on
there, and it just craps out.
2:56:04
After you put one video on,
there's they won't retake it,
2:56:08
and you realize the whole
thing's a scam. And what makes
2:56:10
them want to take Aliexpress off
the list is that they will
2:56:14
refund your money for these
phony baloney products that they
2:56:17
sell. But for a week, over a
week, I went to the return site,
2:56:23
website, and he's all down. We
can't do it now. Call back
2:56:26
later. So I lost like 10 bucks
or whatever it cost me for these
2:56:31
two products, but
2:56:32
Adam Curry: you gained a lot of
malware since you stuck that
2:56:35
thing into your machine.
2:56:37
John C Dvorak: No, there's
nothing on there. Well, for one
2:56:41
thing, I didn't stick it in the
machine because I ran check
2:56:44
flash immediately. Which
2:56:46
Adam Curry: a Ukrainian piece of
software? You're this is good
2:56:49
John C Dvorak: stuff. This
Ukrainian guy is a, is a
2:56:52
geneticist who just happened to
dream this piece of software up
2:56:56
this software i i check it
through this. The other thing,
2:56:59
so check Flash is the product I
like. It was written for Windows
2:57:03
eight. Still works fine, but no,
there are products out there,
2:57:06
and I get people can identify
the best of them, but they're
2:57:09
all over the place. The things
that check the download so you
2:57:13
can see if there's any malware
attached to it. Now, I got this
2:57:16
one from major geeks, and it
seemed to be okay. It didn't
2:57:20
seem to have any mail. Or I have
products that check that. That's
2:57:23
another tip. But the tip is,
when you buy a flash drive, and
2:57:27
Amazon has sold these, they have
sold these fake drives that say,
2:57:32
oh, it says, you know, it'll say
something like 64 gigs. And 64
2:57:37
gigs a buck. No, there's nothing
on the drive. Is bull crap, so
2:57:41
you have to buy one of these
checkers that checks the flash
2:57:45
drive. Anyone has a better one
than check flash let me know.
2:57:48
We'll plug it in the future, but
that's what you do. So what's
2:57:51
your I just bought a couple of
drives recently, and I ran them
2:57:53
through, and they're fine.
They're real. So
2:57:55
Adam Curry: what is the tip? The
tip is,
2:57:58
John C Dvorak: when you buy a
new flash drive, a thumb drive,
2:58:00
a USB drive, check it before you
use it to make sure it's legit.
2:58:06
Adam Curry: All right? And
that's what is that software
2:58:08
called, again.
2:58:09
John C Dvorak: Check flash,
okay.
2:58:11
Adam Curry: All right. And what
do you use these drives for? Do
2:58:14
you hand them out to the kids
who come up to the door? Hey,
2:58:17
kids, one one wants some files.
I use
2:58:20
John C Dvorak: them for a lot of
different things. For example,
2:58:25
if you want to take some old
DVDs and turn them into MP fours
2:58:29
and you put them on the drive to
give them to one of the kids.
2:58:32
Yeah, see the easiest way to do
it.
2:58:35
Adam Curry: Hey, kids want to
want some DVDs. Want some
2:58:38
movies.
2:58:40
John C Dvorak: No one has a
movie player. They don't play TV
2:58:43
like
2:58:43
Unknown: you. No, I
2:58:44
John C Dvorak: don't know.
There's no such thing as a DVD
2:58:46
Adam Curry: I don't have DVD DVD
drives anymore.
2:58:50
John C Dvorak: John, these thumb
drives for this stuff.
2:58:54
Adam Curry: We do. Will you send
me a thumb drive with some
2:58:56
movies?
2:58:57
Unknown: Yeah. What
2:58:58
Adam Curry: movie you want? You
know, the good ones
2:59:01
John C Dvorak: I those movies
are that's something between you
2:59:03
and Tina, this has been your
2:59:06
Unknown: tip of the day. Thanks
for listening. Y'all
2:59:09
come back now. There
2:59:11
Adam Curry: you go. Everybody, a
retracted tip and a brand new
2:59:14
tip.
2:59:16
Unknown: Check flash,
2:59:18
Adam Curry: find them at Tip of
the day.net. No agenda. Fun.com.
2:59:21
There you go. Hey, coming up
next on the stream. Let me see
2:59:25
what we have we've got. Oh,
interesting. Bandrew says is on
2:59:30
the stream. He's a comic strip
bloggers buddy. This is the
2:59:33
benefit of three minute shorts
on YouTube using shotgun mics in
2:59:38
untreated rooms. Yeah, he's a
mic expert. Don't get me started
2:59:45
on mics, but he's a mic expert.
So end of show mixes, we have
2:59:51
let me see D's laughs, David
kecta, and we got the brand new
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guy, John Valentine, and I'm
coming to you from the heart of.
3:00:00
The Texas Hill Country home of
the October 18. No agenda. Meet
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up here in Fredericksburg, Texas
in the morning. Everybody. I'm
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Adam curry and from
3:00:10
John C Dvorak: Northern Silicon
Valley, where it's kind of
3:00:13
overcast, maybe chili and the
Blue Angels are flying around,
3:00:16
but you can't see them. That's
just great. I'm John C Dvorak.
3:00:19
Adam Curry: We return on Sunday
with another three hours of
3:00:23
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mofoza, hooey, hooey and
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Unknown: such. I think of her as
America's wine mom. And then
3:00:35
there's, I'm being Stern, so you
don't realize how plastered I
3:00:39
am. And I'm making a point, and
I'm talking a little girl with
3:00:42
me now I'm gonna go upstairs and
don't knock on the door, because
3:00:44
I'm gonna pass out pumping
3:00:49
hyena, giving out the old
Berkeley humma, distracting you
3:00:52
for the next months into the
summer, no agenda, season of
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reveal. It's here. Comrade
Kamala, hey, let's kick it and
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stick here. Sweet Willie Brown
side piece, giving a horf at
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service on her knees to get a
head cheese. Pastor Manning,
3:01:06
saying that he had her nose wide
open. Complete my joke, I said,
3:01:09
and was not joking. Shooting
back, matter of fact, cleaning
3:01:12
his gun on a stream. A Serious
Man, from what I can gleam,
3:01:16
Trump, saying that she had a
lunatic laugh, but put it in her
3:01:19
head now he's inside. Let's wait
for the gap saying that she's
3:01:23
gonna be so bad, not only video,
but the first campaign had true
3:01:27
social and not ex I said on the
far right, hell of a flex. Biden
3:01:33
is dead weight after the debate
progresses for the feeble
3:01:35
minded, but maybe I'll just call
him late. JD, Vance, stepping
3:01:39
up. I came to see my plane
kamalaka. Chameleon is wine
3:01:42
drunk again.
3:01:46
I don't know whether it'll be
peaceful.
3:01:49
He knows how to talk tough, but
more importantly, he
3:01:52
knows when the time for talk
3:01:57
is over and it is time to fight
for what is right. Ladies
3:02:02
and gentlemen. It's done. Meet
the fake press.
3:02:10
Deface somebody. They
3:02:15
can have a beer with you. Asked
for Miller,
3:02:22
pilot, Kamala flew to a
fundraiser in San Francisco, a
3:02:25
city she absolutely destroyed.
She destroyed San Francisco. It
3:02:28
was the best city in the
country, and now it's not good
3:02:31
at all. Well, families
desperately try to escape the
3:02:36
rising flood waters, and they
climb onto roofs. They did
3:02:40
anything they can to live, but
Kamala didn't send any
3:02:43
helicopters to rescue them, and
when people sent helicopters,
3:02:48
they turned them back.
3:02:52
John C Dvorak: They're pro
eating bugs.
3:02:54
Adam Curry: Entomophagy,
insectivore like cricket. You
3:03:21
Unknown: proper place for
breakfast. Salt and creamy, but
3:03:28
the cricket made us crushing the
buzz. Comrades, you owe nothing
3:03:32
and you're happy, it will be
sad. Comrade in the bugs.
3:03:35
Comrade, you owe nothing
3:03:40
and you're happy, it will be
sad. Comrade the roaster.
3:03:43
Spiders also taste it, not
approaching. Shake cheerleaders,
3:03:49
weebles, tell me what you're
going to make in the bugs.
3:03:54
Comrade in the bugs, aren't you
glad you owe nothing and you're
3:03:56
happy? Don't be sad. Comrade in
the bugs. Comrade in the box,
3:04:00
glad. You owe nothing and you're
happy. Don't be sad. Comrade, in
3:04:02
the buzz. Comrade, you owe
nothing and you're happy. Don't
3:04:07
be sad. Comrade, you owe nothing
if you're happy, don't be sad.
3:04:10
Don't be sad. Comrade, who
3:04:22
don't that is the best podcast
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