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She looks like she stinks.
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
Next Thursday, April 10th, 2025, this is your
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This is no agenda.
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No.
6.
Good morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, we're all watching
the cabinet meeting.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
Black blood and buzzkill.
In the morning.
You're not supposed to be watching television during
the show.
Is it the cabinet meeting or is it
another episode of The Apprentice?
Oh, boy.
Did you see any of this?
Yeah, I saw some of it.
What about it?
What about it?
Well, a couple of things.
One is The Apprentice.
Yeah.
And it's like all it is is a
bunch of cabinet members telling Trump what a
great job he's doing and how everybody's great
on the cabinet.
And we all love each other.
And it's unfortunate, or fortunately or unfortunately, I
think it's setting a precedent where now every
president who comes after Trump is going to
have to do these live events.
We've got to do an Instagram live, baby.
Of course.
Well, that's the most transparent government in history.
It's tedious.
And, you know, everybody's, it was just, I
don't know, I found the thing to be
so staged and phony that it was like,
it was an eye roller.
Well, throughout the past few days, I just
kept getting this feeling and seeing what people
are emailing me and hearing people around me.
And, of course, it's all coming from the
M5M.
Everything's, we got charts, we got numbers, we
got red, we got green, we got up,
we got down, we got panic, we got,
oh, yeah.
It reminds me of COVID.
People are being psyoped.
They are upset.
They're being spun up.
They don't know what's going on.
They don't understand it.
All the experts are contradicting each other.
In fact, it's showing up in reports, including
this one little ditty which keeps coming back
time and again.
Consumer confidence dropped sharply this week following steep
drops on Wall Street amid President Trump's historic
tariffs.
Today, Trump announced that 90-day pause on
some of the tariffs, but tariffs on Chinese
products now stand at 125%.
Bottom line, everyday items are expected to cost
more within weeks or months.
Take iPhones, for example.
Tech analysts predict they would triple in price
if Apple moved its manufacturing operations to the
U.S., which is one intended purpose of
the tariffs.
Our Nydia Han joining us now live in
studio with a look at how the threat
of higher prices is prompting shoppers to stock
up now.
Nydia.
Yeah, people are really concerned.
We asked our friends on Facebook about tariffs.
Friends on Facebook!
And received about 500 comments.
Many people say.
The news has now resorted to.
Wow, there's reporting.
The news has now resorted to asking their
friends.
We asked our friends on Facebook.
Facebook friends tell us what to do.
And received about 500 comments.
Many people say they aren't changing their behavior,
but some tell us they are so concerned
about possible price increases they are now resorting
to panic buying.
We're scared to death.
We're retired.
We're watching our savings going down the tube.
We don't know what to expect next.
Down the tube!
It's confusing.
Confusing and leading some to stock up or
even panic buy.
Panic buy!
I just bought a ton of coffee yesterday.
It has chicory in it, which helps the
acid in the coffee not affect my stomach.
So yeah, I just ordered six more cans
yesterday.
Viewers on Facebook tell us they've ordered an
iPhone and French wine.
Can we stop the clip for a second?
I just had to throw in a little...
Color.
Color commentary.
Color commentary.
Factoid.
Chicory is put in coffee.
I knew you would focus on the chicory.
Yeah.
Of course.
Of course.
You're JCD.
Of course you do.
Tell us about the chicory.
Chicory is put in coffee into lousy, non
-robust, like the Robusto, the crappy beans to
make the coffee palatable.
It's got nothing to do with stomach acids
or anything like that.
It might have an effect like that, but
chicory is a way to take cheap, crappy
-tasting coffee and make it palatable.
That's the reason you use it.
And sometimes, yeah, okay, I like the taste
of chicory, so I use it.
I mean, I don't personally.
You could put salt in it.
You'd get the same effect.
There's a bunch of things you can do.
But this lady had one lame eye.
She was perfect.
One eye was kind of droopy.
One eye going off in the wrong direction.
Yeah, well, that's always good for a laugh.
But there's a common theme in these reports.
Ordered six more cans yesterday.
Viewers on Facebook tell us they've ordered an
iPhone and French wines, chocolate chips and cocoa
powder, as well as car parts and new
tires.
I feel like I'm back in COVID again.
Nobody knows what's going on, what's going to
happen.
That's exactly it.
Now, we have not gone to panic buying
toilet paper, but it seems for some reason
I didn't have.
Yes, it's coming.
Well, the way the media is playing this,
but they cannot help themselves with this one
example over and over and over again.
Could Americans soon be paying several thousand dollars
for a new iPhone?
Apple's landmark smartphone is set to be impacted
by Donald Trump's tariffs.
I mean, everyone has this example.
Your iPhone's going to cost $3,500.
Guess what?
We'll buy an Android.
I think the news media are worried about
their iPhone.
If I don't have the newest iPhone, then
I won't be cool, and I can't have
a green bubble.
I've got to have a blue bubble.
I've got to have an iPhone.
Oh, Trump, you're ruining my iPhone purchase.
As most are assembled in China.
Hold on a second.
You're exactly right.
In fact, a lot of the Android phones
are built in Korea.
Thank you.
And I have one that costs $75, which
looks just fine as a smartphone.
You got gypped.
You paid too much.
And so everyone's all bent out of shape
because of the iPhone.
Keep listening.
We're now subject to an entire report about
the iPhone.
104% import duty.
Some analysts say Apple's costs could rise as
much as 43%.
If that's passed on to the consumer, the
top-of-the-line iPhone 16 Pro Max
would go from a $1,600 retail price
to nearly $2,300.
I would not pay $2,300 for an
iPhone for any reason.
For an iPhone?
Never.
No.
Apple's top supplier in China.
All right, now here's another report.
Well, China has actually from the start mentioned
negotiations or talking with the Americans from the
start.
But right now they are demanding a bit
of respect first.
So at this stage, no breakthrough on the
horizon.
Tensions are extremely high.
Neither side backing down in numbers.
Beijing has escalated as much as the U
.S., responding in kind to their tariffs, you
know, 34% and now 50% so
far.
The United States, though, insists that the playing
field was vastly skewered in the first place
because of that trade deficit they have.
Without a breakthrough, though, we are heading towards
a much nastier trade war than anything we've
seen before.
It's really difficult to see the end of
the tunnel.
Donald Trump's way of speaking is certainly not
considered to be very diplomatic in the eyes
of the Chinese.
Beijing has now announced travel advisories to its
citizens visiting the U.S. as well as
telling overseas students there to conduct safety risk
assessments.
All this talk, everything, all this talk.
What's the result?
Deciding whether or not they should continue studying
in the U.S. China is arguably the
only country that can really hold its ground
when it comes to dealing with the humiliating
rhetoric coming from Washington rather than the smaller
economies who are having to sign up to
strike deals with Donald Trump.
Beijing is standing firm for now, so diplomatic
tensions have escalated.
But, of course, it's neither in the U
.S. nor in China's interest to let this
situation get out of hand any further.
U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods will ultimately
hurt U.S. consumers.
Just think of the price of the iPhone
that will inevitably rise as for China.
I mean, what is this?
Is that the only thing that's going to
be affected?
Is that truly the problem?
And every hoi polloi rich money person, although
not necessarily hoi polloi or rich, but Andrew
Horowitz, they all say the same thing.
Well, I like the tariffs.
I don't like how he's doing it.
I don't like how he's doing it.
He could have done it a little more
subtle.
I don't like how he's doing it.
He's not a nice man.
He's not showing respect.
I'm sick of it.
And then here's the new one.
This is the new one.
Oh, boy.
You heard Horowitz's feelings.
I heard him.
He wouldn't even.
He is so mad when you did the
typical plug for no agenda.
He didn't throw in the Sunday and Thursday.
That's true.
Good point.
I listened to the show.
He's steaming mad.
He's mad.
Trump.
Trump.
Well, look, let's stop for a second.
I got to defend him.
I love Andrew, but still.
Here's the deal.
He has to take nothing but grief.
You know, grief.
24 hour a day grief.
What happened to my portfolio?
You fucked me.
It's your fault.
You should have told me to sell.
It's your.
Where is my money?
Basically the worst job in the world.
If you have a situation like this.
So he's angry.
Listen to this.
So Tina put her retirement money with Horowitz
years ago.
And so she said, oh, I got a
note from Andrew.
It was like a letter to all his
clients.
And it was that I just deleted.
I don't want to see it.
I don't care.
She's like, yeah, he's I understand.
It's not easy for him.
It's not easy.
But it seems like the only people who
are mad are people who can afford iPhones.
And people who have portfolios.
And this is the latest.
This is a good point.
Well, that's what's going on.
This is Wall Street versus Main Street.
And the president has chosen for Main Street.
But Wall Street is trying to make Main
Street super afraid.
The COVID is going to get you.
It's going to kill granny.
You won't have any toilet paper.
This is what's happening again.
And I'm sick of it.
Here's Ari Melbourne from MSNBC.
This is another thing they're doing now.
There isn't a red or blue America when
a president's policies wipe out what you see
here.
Part of the $6 trillion losses in days.
And losses.
No one understands losses.
It's not like, oh, I just dropped $6
trillion and someone rode over it with a
truck and it's gone.
No.
It's value of paper.
Stop it.
Everyone loses.
Everyone loses.
My iPhone.
New evidence right now showing the backlash to
Trump's flailing trade war.
That backlash is broad.
From the bankers and CEOs I mentioned, quoted
some here at the top of the show.
To political leaders in both parties.
Now then there are still many people who,
of course, avoid traditional or credentialed press.
Yeah, people who are smart, who don't want
to listen to your blather.
This is what CNBC looks like if you
turn it on, on the screen here.
But people may not see that kind of
news coverage of the tanking markets.
There are people who consume alternative, younger media.
This is a cultural matter.
No, it's not a cultural matter.
It's because M5M, you, Ari Melbourne, suck.
People have gone to alternative media, not just
a cultural matter.
No, we don't want to watch MSNBC.
That's for the elites with $3,500 future
iPhones.
Or what you've heard about, some of these
MAGA-friendly podcasts and streaming shows.
Oh, MAGA-friendly podcasts and streaming shows, uh
-oh.
And a different set of voices rules.
Let's be clear, many of them speak to
their audience in an unfiltered, authentic way in
real time.
That's part of what draws their audience.
Now they have MAGA credentials.
It should tell you something.
What's a MAGA credential?
Well, let me get my wallet out.
I want my pass.
Where's my MAGA credential?
I want some MAGA.
It's next to your boomer Zionist shill diploma.
Believe me, it's there.
I'm sure you have this past talk about
supporting Trump's promise for the country.
But many of them are now sharing with
their huge audiences, which can number in the
millions or tens of millions in the case
of Rogan, who I showed earlier.
Well, many of the ones you're about to
see, they're sharing concern, panic.
Panic.
Confusion and even disgust.
Oh, no.
Over the cost of Trump flailing trade war.
So let's hear some examples.
Everyone used the same ones.
And it's interesting that they all try to
shoehorn Rogan in there.
But Rogan has actually not said anything about
this at all so far.
But here's an actual news report from Europe.
During the presidential campaign, they were considered crucial
in helping Donald Trump win votes among young
men.
They're turning on him.
Conservative podcasters are joining some of the president's
billionaire backers in voicing doubts over his tariff
policies.
Well, yeah, these guys are rich.
These conservative MAGA credential podcasters.
No wonder.
Ben Shapiro, who has seven million subscribers on
YouTube.
Hold on.
Stop the presses.
Ben Shapiro has traditionally been a never Trumper.
He's hated the guy since day one.
He had to kind of come over to
the Trump side because of the popularity.
But Ben Shapiro has never been a Trumper.
He's hated Trump from the get go.
You are not in service of France Vincatra.
You are not the one getting the clips.
All you need is one clip to prove
the point.
Shapiro, who has seven million subscribers on YouTube
and lended his support to Trump, said he
wasn't against import taxes as a way to
leverage other countries.
But he did take issue with the mixed
messaging about the tariffs and gold.
And this is the possibility that is retailed
by President Trump and many other members of
the administration.
And that is the idea that tariffs are
good.
Trade wars are good and easy to win.
Tariffs themselves are good and make us rich.
The idea that this is inherently good and
makes the American economy strong is wrongheaded.
It's wrongheaded.
Dave Portnoy is another media figure who's unhappy
with how the measures have played out.
The owner of Barstool Sports, which counts 1
.8 million YouTube subscribers, endorsed Trump in 2016
and interviewed him at the White House in
2020.
On Monday, he lamented losing an estimated $20
million from his investment portfolio.
I don't know, poor baby.
10, 15 percent of my net worth, poof.
But I'm still here.
Well, hold on, stop.
Do you do the math on this?
This guy's got $200 million.
Exactly.
On Monday, he lamented losing an estimated $20
million from his investment portfolio.
I don't know, like 10, 15 percent of
my net worth, poof.
But I'm still here.
That's the game.
I'm still standing.
I've got $180 million left.
I'm here, people.
Don't worry about it.
I'm not going to go down without a
fight.
Like, do I like it?
No.
Am I crying?
Am I like, oh, woe is me.
I wish I voted for Kamala.
No.
Do I wish this didn't go down like
this?
Yes.
Meanwhile, Joe Rogan, who boasts 16.4 million
subscribers on YouTube, said in March that Trump's
trade feud with Canada was stupid.
While he was campaigning last year, Trump appeared
on Rogan's podcast for a nearly three-hour
interview, and Rogan endorsed the Republican on the
eve of the election.
But in January, the UFC commentator said he
was not affiliated with a political party, and
more recently, he criticized the Trump administration's deportations
of alleged gang members when one turned out
to be a gay Venezuelan makeup artist.
I thought it was a hairdresser.
So they don't even have anything.
Now he's a gay—now he's a makeup artist.
So they don't even have a current clip
from Rogan.
But they're just pulling everything out, everything they
can.
Yeah.
And they're putting fear into people and telling
them to go panic buy with the one
-eyed, droopy-eyed lady, like, oh, I have
to get more chicory coffee.
These are minor things.
And now we need to get some analysis.
I know that you're the much smarter person
than this, so I have question number one
with a very short clip.
Because this was, I think, you know, we
discussed back in March, hey, maybe he's trying
to drive the bond market down so that
he'll be able to refi the country at
a cheaper rate, which is $9 trillion that
has to be refi'd this year, including $2
trillion, I believe, this month.
And then this happens.
U.S. government bonds are traditionally seen as
a safe haven in times of turmoil.
But this sell-off is shaking that view.
Investors are dumping longer-dated treasuries, and even
the benchmark 10-year bond is getting hit.
Market participants say that hedge funds are at
the heart of the purge.
They need to cover losses on some of
their highly leveraged bets.
But there could be other more fundamental triggers
at play.
Concerns that tariffs will drive inflation and prevent
the Fed from cutting interest rates.
And that foreign investors will dump U.S.
treasuries in retaliation for tariffs.
So the bond market all of a sudden
skyrocketed.
That was not supposed to happen when the
market tanks.
What happened?
What do you mean by skyrocket?
The interest rates going up or down or
the bond prices going up or down?
No, the bond prices went down, but the
interest rates went up.
Yeah.
That was not part of the theory.
What theory?
The theory that Trump was doing all this
to refinance at lower rates.
Oh, yeah.
No, that's because this probably wasn't the case.
You may be closer to the reality with
the trillion-dollar coin.
Well, so I think about the surprise that
I had when I heard this.
Let me see.
Because I had not heard this term.
Let's see.
Where is it?
Well, we talked about it on the show
maybe a couple months ago.
And all of a sudden, Nicole Wallace, of
all people, which is hard to watch, had…
She looks like she's about to break into
tears all the time.
She's got that droopy look, and she's just
– I can't watch her.
She looks like she's not showered, you know?
She's kind of a…
Oh, definitely.
She looks like she stinks.
Now, now, John.
No, I mean, that's what she looks like.
Yeah, she does.
It does.
She looks stanky.
So she had Charlotte Howard of The Economist
on, and I was surprised to hear Charlotte
from The Economist all of a sudden mimicking
a podcaster like us.
What are the theories that folks from the
business community have about why Trump is doing
this?
Doug said that there's no explanation.
There's no rationale.
Trump hasn't articulated a goal, and without a
goal, there's no way of knowing when it's
going to achieve, to know when it will
end.
Why do business people think he's doing this?
Well, I think it depends on the business
person, right?
But there's one theory that has been bouncing
around now for some time, which has to
do with this idea of a Mar-a
-Lago accord, right?
So a purposeful devaluing of the dollar.
And so if you squint at it, it's
kind of like looking at a pile of
dirt and trying to see a Picasso.
So the strategy there would be that you
impose steep tariffs.
The dollar is devalued in trade negotiations.
That makes American exports more competitive.
And you also squeeze China, because China holds
a lot of debt.
As the dollar becomes cheaper, you're exerting pressure
on China.
Now, I don't think that would work at
all.
Very few economists think it would work.
And what are the side effects or the
grave knock-on effects?
You have huge inflation for American consumers.
You have a declining dollar.
You have declining American influence within the broader
global economy.
So it's just a giant misplaced bet.
But if you try to understand an underlying
rationale, that might be one guess.
I don't think it's a good strategy, but
it's one way of looking at it.
So I think she actually convinced me this
is the way to go.
We need to devalue the daughter, or whatever
she said.
Devalue the daughter.
It's like we've been talking about Mar-a
-Lago Accords, i.e. a new Bretton Woods.
If you are the reserve currency of the
world, unless you can roll out those stable
coins, which would have to come next, what
you call the trillion-dollar coin.
The basis behind the stable coin is better
than anything she said.
Right, but it could be a Mar-a
-Lago Accord.
Or devalue the dollar to an extreme.
No, but down a little bit would be
okay, wouldn't it?
Yeah, well, it goes up and down.
It's been as low.
Right now, I think it's $1.09 or
$1.10. No, it's one.
Oh, euros.
Yeah, I'm just talking about the— Well, versus
the euro is really what the benchmark is
for devaluing the dollar.
Oh, really?
Not against anything else?
Just the euro?
The euro would be the benchmark.
Well, that's $1.12 today.
Okay, well, then it's been as high as
$1.20 in the past.
So, the DXY is at $100.
That's the lowest I've seen it in months.
So, the devaluation is happening.
I mean, just a little bit.
And Scott Besant, we have to remember, this
was—he did notice this on the DHM Plug
Show, where Boris tried to trick me as
if I didn't know this.
Oh, I heard you just waiting for him
to say it.
Waiting, waiting.
Because all—it was like Glenn Beck.
He's like, well, you know who you work
for, don't you?
Yeah, yeah, of course, Soros.
I think we talked about it on this
show.
Yes, yes.
Yes, he's an acolyte, is the right word.
It's proof that Horowitz no longer listens to
us.
He can't stand it.
He can't stand us anymore.
Wow, you're probably right.
Yes, he's been an acolyte of Soros, but
not politically, not like a political ally, which
is we always have to— Loyalist, loyalist, loyalist.
A guy who knows how to manipulate currency.
And that's the guy you want.
And take advantage of it.
Yeah, that's the guy you want.
Here's a 30-second clip of, said Scott
Besant.
The successful negotiating strategy that President Trump implemented
a week ago today, it has brought more
than 75 countries forward to negotiate.
It took great courage, great courage, for him
to stay the course until this moment.
These are complicated negotiations.
These are imbalances that have taken decades to
create.
But I think having seen the maximum level
that Donald Trump is willing to go to,
President Trump has created this negotiating leverage.
I mean, I have friends who have small
businesses, and they email me, We don't—this guy's
no good.
We don't need a game show host as
a president.
We need leadership.
Where is the Epstein file?
I swear to God.
Well, I have to be on that side
of the argument, too.
I'm in agreement, but it's like, is that
the— So you have a small business, you're
worried about what's happening, but the first thing
you talk about is the Epstein and JFK
files.
Okay.
So people are being spun up, and I
think it is our job— during COVID—to calm
people down.
It's just the media, M5M, is going nuts,
and that includes a lot of wealthy podcasters,
you know, because— Well, I don't even—are they
going that nuts?
I don't know.
Well— I'm talking about the podcasters.
Yeah.
I mean, the fact that Portnoy—I mean, for
one thing, if you're a podcast— Portnoy, to
say he lost $20 million and it's 10
% of his portfolio, it's just like, why
would you—this is like—look how much money I
got.
I mean, it's just not—it's gauche.
It's very—gauche is the correct word.
Gauche.
And by the way, Rogan's not in that
camp.
They just drag him in, although he said
nothing of the sort.
Oh, well, Rogan didn't like the gay hairdresser.
Okay.
No, no.
Makeup artist.
I'm sorry.
Makeup— He's changed.
Now I'm confused if it's a gay— He's
a gay man.
He's gay.
Why don't we just say the gay?
That he deported the gay.
It doesn't matter what— The gay.
I mean— So let's go to some—I've got
some clips.
Yes.
Let's get some analysis.
Let's get some analysis.
Do tell me.
And this is from, guess where?
Ladies and gentlemen, live from London, we bring
you more clips on the No Agenda show
than you'd ever want to hear.
That's right.
The BBC World Service gives you the correct
analysis of what is happening in your world.
Expertly clipped for your convenience by John C.
Moorock on the No Agenda show.
Okay, we're ready.
You know, I think it's—besides that being a
bit long— It's a little long.
I would say the thing, the little kicker
in there that people don't appreciate, I do,
is the beep, beep, beep, because that's what
they have.
Classic.
It's classic.
I'm Scotty, and they beep, beep, beep.
They're the stupid beeping.
I can shorten it.
I just like filling it up on the
fly.
It makes me feel like a disco jockey.
Yeah, a disco jockey.
Yes.
So let's start with just the basic news
stories.
This is the Tariff War BBC.
Oh, okay.
Tariff War BBC.
Here we go.
If you ever needed proof that President Trump
can suddenly change his mind on the big
issues, take today's decision on his landmark economic
policy tariffs.
Having effectively declared a trade war on most
of the rest of the world and wiped
several trillion off share values on the international
markets, Donald Trump took to social media two
and a half hours ago to announce a
90-day pause on all tariffs over and
above his 10% baseline.
So all the individually applied extra tariffs are
on hold, except those on China.
That other global economic superpower is the big
exception now.
President Trump has raised the rate on goods
from China to 125%, effective immediately.
A short time ago, the president spoke to
the media, and he was asked to explain
the thinking behind his 90-day pause.
Well, I thought that people were jumping a
little bit out of line.
They were getting yippy, you know.
They were getting a little bit yippy, afraid,
unlike these champions.
Because we have a big job to do.
No other president would have done what I
did.
No other president.
I know the presidents.
They wouldn't have done it.
And it had to be done.
What was happening to us on trade, not
only with, you know, if you look at
it, not only with China, but China was
by far the biggest abuser in history and
others also.
But somebody had to do it.
They had to stop because it was not
sustainable.
Last year, China made $1 trillion off trade
with the United States.
That's not right.
And now I've reversed it.
It's for a short period of time, but
we made $2 billion.
We're making now $2 billion a day.
And somebody had to do it.
They got a little bit yippy.
Yippy.
Yeah, let's go.
Might as well explain that term.
Is that the golf term?
No, it's well, yeah, it's a golf term.
But it's also, gymnastics uses it a lot.
The yips.
You got the yips.
You get the yips, which means you all
of a sudden start thinking about the fact
that you're flying in the air and you're
out of control and you can kill yourself.
Yeah, on that bar.
And so you decide, you get nervous and
you start thinking about what you're doing instead
of just doing it.
Yeah, that's what Michelle was.
I think he was talking in front of
the LA Dodgers when he was giving this
press conference.
Ah, okay, that makes sense.
Like the idea of using some technicalities.
Sports analogy, yes.
Some sports stuff.
Some sports stuff, yes.
But what's interesting about this 90-day pause
is that that was the rumor, I think,
the day or the day before that, that
jacked the market up 1,500 points at
the opening.
It says, oh, he's going to give a
90-day pause and jacked way up.
And then they had to come out with
this comment, no, no, no, we're not, no,
in fact, we're going to do this and
that.
Caroline Leavitt had to say something.
And it sunk the market.
So this was in play.
So this rumor that came out a couple
of days early was already, this was all
schemed.
In fact, the clip that I don't have.
I have a question.
Was Horowitz in on the gambit?
Did he buy when it skyrocketed?
Did he go short when it tanked?
No, he's too busy complaining.
I'm going to get a call.
Yeah, maybe.
I'm going to get a call.
Maybe.
Well, I think you're justified in the commentary
that he didn't plug the show.
Exactly.
To plug the show or your ass is
grass, Horowitz.
So the point is that, and I don't
have the clip, and you probably don't have
it.
I wish we had it, which is that
Scott Besant's commentary that this whole thing was
a grand scheme.
It was planned.
It was planned, yes.
I don't have it.
It was planned, and I think it was
because of the fact that a couple of
days earlier, it jacked the market up, and
then it disappeared because somebody leaked it.
But the whole thing was a scheme to
trap, and Besant said to use the word
trap.
The Chinese trapped them.
It was a bear trap.
No, bear trap is specific to the market.
Yeah, that's what he said.
It was just to trap them into a
situation where they look like the bad guys.
And I think it worked, and I think
it's going to work out that way.
But as we get through these BBC clips
where there's analysis coming up from, again, this
is interesting, again, from an economist person.
Oh, interesting.
From the magazine.
And as soon as they announced this, oh,
this is going to be some good anti
-Trump stuff.
But no, it wasn't, it turns out.
But let's listen to this part two of
the basic overview.
Mr. Trump gave more details on how this
latest decision would affect different countries.
I did a 90-day pause for the
people that didn't retaliate, because I told them
if you retaliate, we're going to double it.
And that's what I did with China, because
they did retaliate.
So we'll see how it all works out.
I think it's going to work out amazing.
I think that our country is going to
be at the end of a year or
shorter, but I think we're going to have
something that nobody would have dreamt possible.
He was asked whether chaos on the bond
markets had influenced his thinking.
The bond market is very tricky.
I was watching it, but if you look
at it now, it's beautiful.
The bond market right now is beautiful.
Beautiful.
But, yeah, I saw last night where people
were getting a little queasy.
Well, the big move wasn't what I did
today.
The big move was what I did on
Liberation Day.
We had Liberation Day in America.
We were liberated from all of the horrible
deals that were made.
So countries around the world are suddenly having
to rethink their responses to what had been
and probably what still is being threatened.
There is more time to negotiate, but was
this a climb-down or a deliberate strategy?
And how is it being perceived in Washington?
I talked to Jake Kwan, who's the BBC's
North America correspondent in the US Capitol.
Well, the White House would certainly love to
present this as a masterful stroke that it
is not a capitulation.
There has been growing calls by the industry
leaders and financial investors and even some of
the Republican congressmen and women who have been
voicing their concern at this tariff and the
trade war that's happening.
But the White House's message is that all
the world, the 75 countries around the world,
are crawling to the White House, crawling to
Mr. Trump, trying to get a better deal,
something that will be advantageous to the US,
and that he is a master negotiator and
these tariffs has been the plan all along
to get a deal for the US.
And of course, all this is a response
to the allies coming to the US with
a goodwill.
Before you continue with the analysis, may I
just play a short classic clip since the
president keeps saying that he's the only one,
he's the only one who had the guts,
which is arguably true.
I'm just going to say, before you play
that, I want to say something about this
last clip.
This is what bothers me about the mainstream
media.
They're not paying attention.
When Trump says, well, we just did the
90-day thing to see who is going
to retaliate, we're going to jack it up
on them, they're going to screw over anyone
who tries to retaliate, and then the Chinese,
of course, retaliated.
What's never mentioned is that the Europeans retaliated
too.
But why isn't he doing it to them
too, if what he says is true?
They're always trying to catch him in a
lie or something, and there is a wide
open one right here, right down the middle
of the plate, to use a sports analogy,
and nobody says anything about it.
So the Europeans retaliated to the initial...
I have a clip on it, if you
want to pause before the analysis.
I can wait until after your BBC stuff,
whatever you want to do.
No, no, you play your clips.
This is a very awkward situation for the
European Union.
President Trump said the reason he was pausing
the extra tariffs, the tariffs beyond 10%
for all of the 60 naughty countries except
China, was because no one retaliated except China.
The problem is the EU did retaliate.
Just yesterday, national governments took a vote approving
retaliatory tariffs against 20 billion euros worth of
U.S. imports, and those are supposed to
take effect on Tuesday.
Where's this from?
This is France 24.
You see, American media did not pick this
up.
No, of course not.
But it's funny when you hear what actually
happened.
Approving retaliatory tariffs against 20 billion euros worth
of U.S. imports, and those are supposed
to take effect on Tuesday.
However, those retaliatory tariffs are not for the
20% Liberation Day tariffs that Trump unveiled
last week.
It's a delayed reaction to the 25%
tariff on steel and aluminum that Trump had
put in place in February.
Essentially, it's just kind of a coincidence that
the vote took place yesterday.
Did you see what happened there?
Yeah, that's a good bit.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's their way out.
Good one.
Well, yeah.
They have lots of problems, but let's go
back to your BBC, and I'll play other
stuff later.
I want to hear your analysis clips because
this is anal stuff.
Yeah, so they bring this guy in from
the— This is actually pretty good because I
think all these three clips here, the joke
is, of course, they do bring the Apple
thing back.
Of course.
Your iPhone's going to go up.
Hey, how about this?
How about Apple just takes half the profits?
Oh, boy.
Yeah, because their margins are ridiculous as it
is.
Yes, because they have slave labor in China.
Yeah.
Yeah, pay your fair share, elites.
Actually, there's four clips here.
They're short, but here we go.
One of them is long.
Here we go.
There might be a reprieve on tariffs for
other sovereign nations, but for China, things have
got worse, with the U.S. import charge
raised immediately to 125%.
I asked David Rennie in Washington how Beijing
would react to being singled out in such
a dramatic fashion.
He's geopolitics editor at The Economist magazine, and
he was in the Chinese capital last week
talking to scholars and government officials.
I think there is a political logic to
this, that Donald Trump came to office believing
that globalization has been a terrible deal for
America going back decades, and by far the
biggest offender is China, and that's been a
consistent position of his.
So I don't think this should surprise us,
and I think it certainly doesn't surprise the
Chinese.
But why should China plan any specific policy
in response when it's now clear that President
Trump could change his mind in the next
hour?
So Chinese officials and Chinese scholars say that
that is the hardest thing for their system
to deal with.
China likes to plan, it likes five-year
plans, and it finds it very hard to
deal with this mercurial, transactional American president.
That said, they had plenty of warning that
he might well be back in the White
House, and that he was campaigning on threats
of imposing big tariffs on China.
So they've been preparing really carefully for a
long time.
I believe that to be true.
Yes.
Yeah, they knew what was going on.
But you're right, the media wants to make,
and it's working because people I know and
respect are saying, he's just a game show
host, he's just doing what, he doesn't know
what he's doing, he's just making stuff up
and pulling it off and doing it.
It's so much more sophisticated.
Oh yeah, by far, it's beyond immediate comprehension.
The guy's no slouch.
You have to be brilliant.
You've got to have a big brain.
Next.
They've been doing short-term America-specific defensive
kind of preparations, and some longer-term sort
of attempts to reshape and rebalance their entire
economy, away from this incredibly high dependence on
exports.
So if you look at the short-term
America defenses, they've been sort of getting ready.
When I was in Beijing, we were told
that nine different government ministries and agencies had
been looking, if we need to hit back
at an American tariff, what can we target
that is going to hurt Trump voters and
get Trump's attention?
And we can buy that stuff from somewhere
else.
So they chose soybeans as a classic example.
It's grown in farm states in the Midwest
of America, full of Trump voters.
And in fact, you know, China used to
buy a lot of American soybeans, but they
can get them from Brazil, they can get
from Argentina.
As it happens, the tariffs came in at
such a high level that actually China's response
has been pretty much across the board retaliatory
tariffs on American goods and some pretty tough
shots across the bows of some American companies
that are now being investigated by Chinese regulators.
Once you start going down that path, you
realize that China can actually impose really serious
pain on some of the most important companies
in America.
Take Apple, which is incredibly dependent on China
as a place to make things like iPhones,
but also as an important market.
They haven't gone after Apple yet, but everyone
knows that that's the kind of thing China
could do if this gets really rough.
I got to tell you, I really don't
care about Apple.
It's like they've been riding high for so
long.
They're hoity-toity.
They think their poop don't stink.
I really, I mean, sorry for the people
who are there for their options, but come
on.
They're printing money in Cupertino, printing it.
Take one for the team, Apple.
Well, Dell is another company that's highly invested
in China.
I think a lot of their laptops and
other products are made there.
I think HP, this stuff comes out of
China, of course.
Well, buy a Gateway.
Who owns those?
They're not even in business that I know
of.
Remember the cow computer, Gateway.
And then who else is there?
Tesla's got a big factory there.
They can get rid of them.
Of course, UIDs.
They have Walmart.
They've got big, big outfits there in Wuhan.
The Chinese have got us over a barrel
if they wanted to really do some damage.
But as this guy continues, there's some geopolitical
issues that China must be aware of.
At least he thinks so.
So there's a lot left in their arsenal
in terms of how they could hit the
U.S. economically.
What about rare earths?
They have a near global monopoly on some
of those.
Yes, so China has a near monopoly on
the processing of rare earths.
And some of those are incredibly important in
not just green tech, but also satellites, high
-end electronics.
All kinds of modern technologies need those rare
earths.
So that's a real threat.
So those are all the defensive measures that
China is willing to make if it has
to against America.
And the other thing we've seen from the
Chinese is a really strong propaganda push internally
that China need not be terrified of this,
that the sky won't fall.
That was the language you saw from the
most important Communist Party mouthpiece, the People's Daily
newspaper.
And their argument is, after years of decoupling,
going back to the first Trump administration, America's
an important market for Chinese exports, but it's
not nearly as important as it was.
It's now below 15% of Chinese exports.
So we have no real way of knowing
how far President Trump will take this big
fight with China.
Should we take Beijing at its word when
it says it will fight to the end?
I think actually the strange thing is that
although the tariffs are unbelievably high and the
rhetoric is extremely fierce, I don't think we
should exclude the possibility that the two countries
end up trying to cut some sort of
deal.
Remember, we saw them cutting a deal.
It didn't really work out in the end
in the first Trump administration.
But I think that beneath the bluster and
beneath the domestic politics, both countries do have
an interest in climbing down from this.
Of course.
Of course.
And all the Chinese have is, you're not
respectful.
You're not speaking respectful to us.
We're not going to talk to you, you
bully.
That's all they're saying.
Trump has made it clear that they're going
to talk.
Of course.
Of course.
Which will be important to a lot of
iPhone owners.
It's all about the iPhone, man.
It's all anyone talks about.
I don't get it.
Because that's the only thing they can do.
I mean, the fact is, start looking at
the products around you.
No, you're right.
It's not the iPhone that's the issue, believe
me.
No, but the iPhone is the one thing.
This is the way I read it.
People who have an iPhone, and let's face
it, a lot of Americans have an iPhone.
It's a status symbol.
It's something you need to have.
It's an overpriced status symbol.
Yes.
And the minute you say you won't be
able to afford it, people care about that.
I think people would rather buy an iPhone
than toilet paper.
I'm telling you.
That's because, yeah, you take a look around
you.
Yeah, sure.
Okay, so I can't have a new big
flat screen TV.
So I can't have some cheap clothes that
are toxic.
I don't hear anyone talking about the stuff
that, oh, what am I going to do
without that?
Your computer.
Who needs it?
Who needs it?
I don't need a computer.
The keyboard is made in China.
The point is, I have a computer.
The mouse is in China.
It's good.
Yeah, when you need to replace the keyboard,
you're going to pay $300 for it.
Oh, really?
$300?
I don't think so.
It's not going to be $300.
Your point is made, but it's like, okay,
so we'll just buy less crap from China.
I just don't see it.
We've gotten hooked on Chinese plastic opioids.
But you've gotten hooked on China.
Yes.
The iPhone is just one small element.
But here's the interesting clip.
This is, I think, kind of a kicker
here, which will result in some deal being
done.
And China also has the additional problem that
if America really stays closed off to Chinese
exports, those exports are going to have to
go somewhere else.
And China is already very concerned, I was
told in Beijing, by the idea that they
could end up really alienating and aggravating places
like Europe, even partners in Latin America, the
Global South, because if a tidal wave of
Chinese exports ends up swamping those markets and
damaging employment and jobs in lots of countries
around the world because it can't be sold
in America, that's a massive diplomatic and geopolitical
headache for the Chinese leadership.
Ah, we don't coordinate these things, but the
clip I have lined up is exactly that.
Yesterday we had a phone call between EU
President Ursula von der Leyen and the Chinese
premier specifically about how to avoid dumping of
products from China.
So that would be products that China was
intending, to Chinese companies, were intending to export
to the United States.
Many will now be diverted and a lot
will come here to the European Union.
And if they all get dumped onto the
market, that could be a major problem.
So the Commission is setting up emergency measures
right now to watch for that dumping.
And if they see it happening with certain
products, they'll put in policies to stop the
flow of those products.
But they want to work with China on
preventing that from happening.
So tell me, tell me about this dumping.
What happens, first of all, so China has
product, they can't send it to the US,
so they send it cheap to the EU.
What exactly happens in this scenario?
Yeah, there you go.
You just nailed it.
That's exactly what happens.
And then what happens, what happens in the
EU?
Then they swamp the EU, businesses go out
because the EU is protectionist in a different
way than we are.
And they, you know, they got labor unions
that are different than ours and they have
different kind of complaining and they could get
a revolution.
I mean, they could have all hell break
loose in Europe.
Explain it.
Explain what happens.
So you dump the products.
Take me all the way through what happens
in Europe when that takes place.
Well, you say you dump a bunch of,
for example, Chinese porcelain.
The whole Europeans make, you know, Limoges and
all these guys make different kinds of porcelain
products and the Chinese all of a sudden
dump dishes, dishware, into France because they got
to get rid of it somewhere.
And it just puts these little guys out
of business and it causes a disruption in
the ecosystem of the government.
And it's a relation to the businesses.
I mean, it just causes, it's just not
good, it's bad.
So that's a backdoor little gotcha that is
taking place because of this.
Yeah.
You're aware of it.
Obviously, the economics, the guy from The Economist
is aware of it.
The Chinese, because he says he got this
information from Beijing because they're the professors and
whoever the ministers are that are just talking
to him.
They're all, everyone's aware of this problem and
you have the clip to even back that
up.
Because Vandaline's aware of it.
This is not, this is not acceptable.
So they're going to, this forces the Chinese.
So they have to put tariffs.
They have to, the only respite they have.
Well, yeah, but you would have to drop,
they would just stop, you also stop importation.
Stop importation.
Just say no.
No, you can't send that here.
This is good.
This is good.
I like this.
It's getting complicated.
And so this means that they're going to
have to do a deal because we are
the big giant market that can suck all
this, as you put it, Chinese junk up.
Like there's no tomorrow because we're just consumers.
I'm glad, I'm glad you used the suck
word because that is exactly the clip, a
classic clip I have.
They're from Ross Perot.
That's right.
Ross Perot.
He was the guy who said he was
going to do what President Trump is doing
right now and they threatened to kill him.
And that's why he dropped out.
I think that's universally known.
They threatened to kill his family.
I thought they were threatening to kill his
family or something.
His family, his dog, everything.
Yeah, they sent pictures.
Yeah, he dropped out of the race because
it was believed to be the CIA, but
it could have been anybody.
Well, he's standing there in this three-way
debate, which was incredible at the time that
an independent had so many votes that he
could disrupt either party's election.
He's there with Bill Clinton and George Bush
Sr. And this is what he said.
If you just want to get out and
buy his tax, first thing you ought to
do is get all these folks who've got
these one-way trade agreements that we've negotiated
over the years and say, fellas, we'll take
the same deal we gave you.
And they'll gridlock right at that point because,
for example, we've got international competitors who simply
could not unload their cars off the ships
if they had to comply.
You see, if it was a two-way
street, just couldn't do it.
We have got to stop sending jobs overseas.
To those of you in the audience who
are business people, pretty simple.
If you're paying $12, $13, $14 an hour
for factory workers, and you can move your
factory south of the border, pay $1 an
hour for labor, hire a young 25...
Let's assume you've been in business for a
long time.
You've got a mature workforce.
Pay $1 an hour for your labor.
Have no health care.
That's the most expensive single element, making a
car.
Have no environmental controls, no pollution controls, and
no retirement.
And you don't care about anything but making
money, there will be a giant sucking sound
going south.
So, if the people send me to Washington,
the first thing I'll do is study that
2,000-page agreement and make sure it's
a two-way street.
That was NAFTA, of course, that he was
referring to, and he was right.
He was right.
It was very destructive to our manufacturing base.
Yeah, it took Maytag out of the country.
But now we have a president who was
willing to do this, and I'm sure that
there's been a lot of threats to his
family and his life for doing this because
that's what they do.
It's what they do.
And he was at this GOP fundraiser, I
think it was last night, and he had
a couple of good zingers, but he said,
this is the difference, this is what he
is.
I'm proud to be the president for the
workers, not the outsourcers, the president who stands
up for Main Street, not Wall Street, who
protects the middle class, not the political class,
and who defends America, not trade cheaters all
over the globe.
They're trade cheaters.
They cheated on us.
They cheated with tariffs on us.
They stole our money, they stole our jobs.
Yeah, there you go.
He had another, so the real problem here,
because that's part of the plan, is the
tax, the tax bill.
And this has become an issue because he
has to pass this, A, to stop this
incredible, these tax cuts which have a sunset,
which will raise everybody's tax, is going to
screw everybody.
Not just the wealthy.
Hello, Main Street media and Democrats, everybody, including
little bitty podcasters, John and Adam.
But he also has in there, it's a
perfect balance.
No tax on social security, no tax on
tips.
You get to deduct the interest on your
car if it's an American-made car, and
the state and local taxes, including your mortgage
deduction, will go up.
You'll be able to deduct more.
That's a critical piece of it because, of
course, you will have some inflation, some, I
think, real economists say, eh, half a point,
maybe a point.
It's not going to be so terrible.
And you have these, what he calls grandstanders.
He's looking specifically at Rand Paul and also,
disappointingly, Chip Roy of Texas.
But, you know, to get there, first he's
got to make some jokes.
I'm telling you, these countries are calling us
up, kissing my ass.
They are dying to make it to you.
Please, please, sir, make it to you.
I'll do anything.
I'll do anything, sir.
And then I'll see some rebel Republican, some
guy that wants to grandstand, say, I think
that Congress should take over negotiations.
Let me tell you, you don't negotiate like
I negotiate.
Congress takes over negotiating.
Sell America fast because you're going to go
busted.
You're going to go busted?
Yeah, that's Rand Paul who's waffling about.
Well, it's a tax and only Congress can
do tax.
I actually looked at the legality of it.
He's not incorrect.
But once the president declares an emergency, economic
emergency, then the president can do what he
wants to do for a maximum of four
years.
I looked it all up so he can
do this.
And so what Rand Paul is trying to
do is say, well, we need to pass
a bill against the emergency.
Well, good luck with that.
I don't think Congress can override the president
when he invokes an emergency, which is exactly
why this language is always used, economic emergency,
national security emergency.
That's why we still have the Patriot Act
because of national security emergency.
And then there was still more fun to
be had at the expense of Adam Schiff.
And that's with all of the difficulties and
all of the fake investigations and Adam Schiff.
Can you believe this guy?
He's got the smallest neck I've ever seen.
And the biggest head, we called him Watermelon
Head.
Hold on, that is John Kerry.
That's the wrong name, the wrong guy.
I found it to be just as offensive.
Very offensive.
That's our gag and it's the wrong guy.
It's our gag, wrong guy.
Wrong guy.
The biggest head, we called him Watermelon Head.
Pumpkin Head would be funnier.
What, what, Pumpkin Head?
Yeah, he's got a pumpkin head.
Kerry has the watermelon head.
You're right, Schiff has a pumpkin head.
And the biggest head, we called him Watermelon
Head.
I say, how could that big fat face
stand on a neck that looked like this
finger?
How can it?
It was the weirdest thing.
It's a mystery, nobody can understand it.
But he's one of the most dishonest human
beings I've ever seen.
And you know how we can allow people
like that to run an office, it's a
shame, but we did.
But this really is the problem.
And I'm disappointed in Chip Roy.
I mean, is he so simple?
He's our representative here.
Are you so simple, Chip Roy?
You know, is he part of the, what
is the caucus, the super conservative?
Oh, yeah, I'm there with the caucus.
Chip Roy kept with the program.
With his iron grip on the Republican Party,
it's long seemed that Donald Trump could do
no wrong in the eyes of the party's
elected representatives.
But now he may be going too far
for some, like Senator Rand Paul.
Last week, he backed a Democratic Senate resolution
against the emergency powers Trump used to impose
tariffs on Canada.
This is a tax, plain and simple.
Taxes should not be enacted by one person.
So I will vote today to end the
emergency.
I will vote today to try to reclaim
the power of taxation, the power of the
tariff.
He was joined by three other Republican dissenters,
former Senate leader Mitch McConnell and Lisa Murkowski
and Susan Collins, who represent states on the
border with Canada.
That's a nice bunch to be in there,
Rand Paul.
Several other Republican senators say they intend to
back a bipartisan bill that would put restrictions
on Trump's ability to impose tariffs with a
sweep of the pen.
Ugh.
Traitors!
Exactly the kind of Republican some people we
know are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's stop
this.
Get that pen out of his hand.
It's no good.
Ugh.
Bloomberg actually had...
Well, you know, just to stop it for
a second, Susan Collins, who's had a stroke,
probably has never been all there for a
while.
I don't know what her problem is.
Murkowski, I can always understand her because she
was, they tried to prime, the Republican Party
tried to primary her and get rid of
her and she's very resentful.
She's mad.
Okay.
She's just a resentful person and she's like
going to vote no on everything.
And Mitch McConnell is turning to the fart
that he's always kind of a senile, frozen
in time guy who hates Trump, he just
hates Trump, so he's going to vote against
everything.
But Trump even gave Rand Paul, he gave
him a gift because, you know, the European
Union's, oh, we're going to we're going to
put high tariffs on Kentucky bourbon, which of
course is Rand Paul's state.
And so Trump said, oh, okay, 200%
tax on your wine and your champagne.
And they dropped the tariff on the bourbon.
There's something else going on with Rand Paul,
obviously.
You don't, I mean, I have the same...
Corruption.
It's got to be corruption.
What's that in your mouth level stuff?
Maybe.
Maybe?
I mean, he is a little fruity.
Excuse the word, but he is.
Yeah, there's something going on.
I don't get it.
Like, and why is he going after the,
he knows that's that makes no sense.
He knows he's not going to get that.
No one's going to vote for, doesn't make
any sense.
The Bloomberg guy, I think, had a good
point here.
This morning we have a warning as well
from Ray Dalio for investors who may, Ray
Dalio, Bloomberg guy, whatever, be too fixated on
tariffs.
Let's get the details on that from Bloomberg's
Lisa Mateo.
In a post on X, the billionaire founder
of Bridgewater Associates said investors are not paying
attention to underlying conditions, the breakdown in major
monetary, political, and geopolitical orders, and that failing
to do so may blindside them to the
biggest disruptions that are still to come.
Dalio explained how Trump's tariff policies are driven
by too much existing debt and the rate
at which new borrowing is added.
He said the U.S. is hooked on
using debt to finance excessive spending, while creditor
countries like China sell goods to debtor nations
like the U.S., and that will lead
to a correction of these imbalances and a
change in the monetary order.
Dalio also notes that gaps in education, opportunity,
and values are contributing to a breakdown of
the democratic system and the rise of autocratic
leaders, while the U.S. is shifting from
a multilateral to a unilateral approach in the
geopolitical arena.
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Exactly right.
I think there was this concern among some
folks that Donald Trump would come in for
a second term and kind of be a
lame duck.
He ain't no lame duck.
If anything, he's a soaring eagle.
What am I talking about here?
Let's talk about Trump executive orders in 2025.
He's already signed 111 so far.
That is the most at this point in
a presidency in at least a hundred years.
In fact, it's the most in any single
year, more only in April since Harry S.
Truman in the early 1950s.
The bottom line is whether you like Trump
or you don't like him, you can't say
that he's coming and not try to deliver
on what he at least believes was his
promises on the campaign trail, and he's doing
so in historic fashion.
He's the soaring eagle.
Yeah.
But the guy who tops it all, who
is, I mean, this is truly just a
guy, as far as I'm concerned, who's on
a game show known as Shark Tank, is
Mr. Wonderful, Kevin O'Leary, who one day
he's like, oh yeah, I'm investing a trillion
dollars in data centers.
I don't see that noise anymore.
Yeah, we've already got the land.
We've already got the power.
No, he's got none of that.
This guy likes to be on TV.
104% tariffs in China are not enough.
I'm advocating 400%.
I do business in China.
They don't play by the rules.
They've been in the WTO for decades.
They have never abided by any of the
rules they agreed to when they came in
for decades.
They cheat.
They steal.
They steal IP.
I can't litigate in their courts.
They take product technology.
They steal it.
They manufacture it and sell it back here.
Never has an administrator...
Can the United States stand 400% tariffs?
What would that look like?
I want Xi on an airplane to Washington
to level the playing field.
This is not about tariffs anymore.
Nobody has taken on China yet, not the
Europeans, no administration for decades.
As someone who actually does business there, I've
had enough.
I speak for millions of Americans who have
IP that have been stolen by the Chinese.
I have nothing against the Chinese people.
They brought great literacy, art, restaurants, and tech
to the world.
The government cheats and steals.
And finally, an administration, you may not like
Trump.
You may not like his style or his
rhetoric.
Finally, an administration that puts up and says
enough, 400% tariffs tomorrow morning.
He'll tell you why.
Xi can only stay the leader if people
are employed.
If we wipe out any business there, because
we are still 39% of all consumables
on earth and 25% of the world's
GDP, America is the number one economy on
earth with all the cards.
We will not have that forever.
It's time to squeeze Chinese heads into the
wall now.
That's a great picture.
You got that clip.
I saw it and I didn't clip it.
Squeeze the Chinese heads into the wall now.
He's interesting because he does talk a big
game now that situations changed somewhat.
He's a fun guy.
He's fun.
I got another one here.
If you just want to know what regular
folk watch on the conservative side, although again,
I see a lot of conservatives freaking out
about this, about this stupid president, what's he
doing?
Because they're watching, watching financial news.
They're watching your guy over there, Charles Barkley.
What's his name?
Charles Payne?
Yeah, Charles Payne.
Charles Payne.
Charles Barkley.
Might as well have a show.
On Fox Business.
And they're like, oh, this is wrong.
What are we doing?
It's disrupting everything.
My iPhone.
But you really want to get your economic
analysis from Judge Janine.
China was always the end game.
Trump won.
He's doing exactly what he said he would
do.
He said there would be short term pain
for long term gain.
He literally got everybody in the world to
come to the table or they're trying.
They're calling.
They're flying in.
They're trying to make a deal.
And he sent a message to those countries
that were willing to make a deal with
the United States.
Let's do something mutually beneficial for both of
us.
Right now, his timing was right to the
edge and it was a business decision to
get everyone to the table so everyone can
win.
If there's a standoff, nobody wins.
But now this is the biggest win for
America because we've got a level playing field.
We are no longer a doormat for other
countries.
We've got a president who has the capacity,
the ability and the stamina to fight to
make sure that we are at least a
manufacturing country.
Again, you say the United States doesn't want
to be a manufacturing company, a country.
We lost ninety thousand manufacturing businesses.
We want to be.
Let me finish.
I didn't interrupt you.
All right.
What we want is we want everyone who
needs us to, number one, be able to
rely on us and we need to be
able to work with them.
In fact, I would say bomb them, bomb
them and then bomb them again.
So my my take on this whole thing
was that from the get go, I kind
of agree with Besant, who said this whole
thing was a setup.
But the one thing I think he left
out, I think the entire thing is that
when he did his Independence Day thing, the
whole scheme was to create a cross the
board 10 percent tariff on everything from everyone,
which makes sense.
And yes, in fact, even with the trillion
dollars, the excess that the Chinese have been
shipping us, that's 100 billion dollars in tariffs,
even though it's only 10 percent.
It's not that much.
We can everyone will gladly pay an extra
10 percent for Chinese products or anybody's products.
It's only 10 percent.
It's not that big of a deal.
And so that would be a lot of
money considering if you take a look at
the totals.
But he didn't like incentives just coming out
on Independence Day, as he calls it, and
saying we're going to do a 10 percent
across the board deal.
He comes out with this crazy chart where
he's taxing the Penguin Island and 50, 70,
80 percent.
And he makes a big fuss about it,
crashes the market.
But if the giveaway was the underlying, no
matter who it was, had a minimum of
10 percent.
Everybody had 10 percent, at least.
Yeah, it was 10 percent plus.
That's right.
Yeah, it was 10 percent plus.
But the lowest was always 10 percent.
There was nobody that got less than 10
percent, even if they had weren't.
They had no tariff.
So the 10 percent was given away when
he did that chart.
And so then he does this new deal,
goes off the 90 day, backs off.
But he keeps the 10 percent.
The whole thing was about 10 percent.
But he didn't want to start that way
because that would be his negotiating posture from
the get go.
And he'd have to back off on it.
So he negotiates by putting these.
It was ridiculous.
Then everybody got all bent out of shape.
And but the real goal was this 10
percent, which I think will be enough.
Which will be enough.
It'll be enough for us.
It'll be more.
Yes, it'll be enough for starters.
They'll get some manufacturing to come back.
It's, you know, I mean, Honda makes cars
here already.
Well, that's the hard part.
That's the hard part is building up the
manufacturing base, which is his ultimate goal.
And I've heard I don't I don't think
I have any clips of it, but I've
heard certainly pundits on the CNN and MSNBC
and CNBC saying, well, this is the mistake
he's making because Americans are stupid.
They can't read above fifth grade level and
they're lazy and they don't want to work.
And I think that that is a very
elitist view of the American people.
Completely.
I think that we we are all three
of our daughters at some point are busing
tables or tending bar and they like it.
They like the money.
They like the tips.
They like the hours.
They like they don't have to take any
any any work home with them.
They don't have to get work on their
iPhone all the time.
So I think that's the iPhone again.
Well, if I were a younger man today,
if let's say I was 30 back in
my heyday, I would be making an American
phone to rival the iPhone.
It would be made of a cigar box,
but I would be making an American phone.
This is a golden opportunity.
That's what people need to see.
Now you can start.
We have style problems.
You know, we don't make the coolest looking
cars.
They basically all look like military stuff or
just gay.
I mean, that's kind of the two models
we have.
But that's true.
But you know, but this is the time.
This is a golden opportunity.
And instead, everyone's fretting about the iPhone.
Come on.
You can make a cool phone with open
Android stock build.
You can do it.
You can do it.
I know we can.
We do we still do we make plastic
here.
We got plastics.
The best plastic makers are all in Taiwan.
Well, that's good, too.
We can do it.
We're OK with Taiwan.
We can do a deal with Taiwan.
It's time that people get knocked off their
high horse.
And yes, Apple is top of the bill
because they're arrogant.
There's overpriced and they've psyoped everybody into thinking
that you have to have this phone.
It's only about the iPhone, this whole thing.
It's only about the iPhone.
That's all anybody can talk about.
It's all anybody seems to care about.
iPhone, which brings us if we're done with
these tariffs.
Yes, it brings us to another round, another
round of smartphone discussion on NPR, which I've
concluded because we had those clips in the
last show from NPR.
Oh, this is something going on at NPR.
Is this Scott?
Is this Scott?
No, no, it's not Scott.
This is one of the you got to
warn me.
All right.
I don't think I have Scott on today's
show.
That's too bad because he's a staple.
But somebody requested the Scott jingle for the
I saw that coming up.
It'll be in the show for a jingle
for the donation segment.
Yes.
I'm telling you, Scott's a winner.
It's a winner for the show.
Sure.
So what is this?
What is what is the deal with the
phones?
What do they have?
I don't know.
Where's these clips?
Cell phone BS number one.
That would be a yes.
This review study from last year on phone
addiction, and it found that we're interrupted by
our smartphones every 13 minutes of our time
awake.
Now, let's stop.
What would it be like?
And I got to do it.
You have to remember, we just did a
series of clips from NPR where they're spreading
about the five and a half hours a
day that people are spending on their phone,
especially the host of whatever the show was.
Yeah.
Complaining to himself about it, being addicted to
this phone.
And so now they're they can't get off
this topic.
And so this is a whole new presentation.
And I'm thinking they really have some problems
at NPR.
They must be just on the phone all
the time.
And it found that we're interrupted by our
smartphones every 13 minutes of our time awake.
So what would it be like to just
give it up?
August Lamb is an artist, an influencer, and
an activist.
And she published a couple of op eds
in the New York Times and the Guardian
about hitting a breaking point with her smartphone.
And so she made a bold move.
Bold.
She downgraded to a dumb phone.
My smartphone, it represented my social life and
also represented my work.
And so it felt a bit like I
was carrying around the office with me all
day.
And then the pressure to keep that up
and to keep the attention on me in
order to make money was ultimately too much
for me to handle.
And I just reached a breaking point.
So going back to when you first made
this switch, what were some of the things
that surprised you the most?
It was really psychological.
That's what surprised me is that there was
the barrier of being bored and not knowing
how to entertain myself.
It wasn't about hobbies.
It was about being in my own mind.
And at that point, my thoughts were not
very stimulating because I wasn't used to having
them.
Absolutely.
She's right.
She's right.
Now, this is what irks me about this
presentation is I'm now two years into keeping
the...
I've gone beyond this.
I don't think it's a smartphone that's the
issue or a dumb phone like a flip
phone.
You still have the phone.
It's the apps and the notifications the apps
give you.
If you have the phone in a drawer,
which mine currently is, and it's in the
drawer, I probably take it out.
Like if I have to do something recently,
I had to go and use an Uber.
So what am I going to do?
There's no way of getting an Uber without
this damn phone.
And so I took the phone out of
the drawer, use it to get the Uber,
use it to get back, and then I'd
put the phone back in the drawer where
it belongs.
But I have to refer back to when
I first did this.
I talked about this on Horowitz a little
bit.
And for one thing, I've been phone-less.
I don't call it that.
Phone-less.
I don't take the phone as a navigator.
Phone-less.
Yes.
I don't take the phone and put it
in the car.
I don't drive around with the phone.
I've been phone-less for two years.
I could have written these editorials.
She's writing an unknown woman is writing an
editorial for the New York Times and the
Guardian about this, and all she's done is
downgrade to a flip phone.
Okay.
That's not going all the way the way
I see it.
But this happened to me, because what happened,
I had a phone.
I was using it like a normal person
or abnormal person.
Oh, wait.
We're hearing the genesis of the drawer.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
The genesis of the drawer.
Another Dvorak anecdote.
The genesis of the drawer.
I was using the cheap $30-a-month
T-Mobile plan.
Which is- Because even before I went
to the drawer, I was always on a
cheap plan, as cheap as I could get.
And if I needed extra data or something,
I could buy it on the fly.
And so I found this cheap plan that
T-Mobile had for 30 bucks.
And by the way, the current phone I
now use, which is in the drawer, is
a T-Mobile.
And the max price is $15 a month.
There you go.
Nice.
But I had the $30 plan for T
-Mobile, and it died on me, and I
couldn't renew it for some reason on the
phone.
So I went to the T-Mobile store.
So I go to the T-Mobile store,
and they got this idiot.
He sets me up.
He said, well, yeah, $30.
Here, we give you this plan.
He set me up.
And it turned out that when I got
home, it was a data-only plan, which
I didn't even know existed.
So you couldn't make a call or text?
I couldn't make a call.
So this was a data-only.
So I called T-Mobile, and they said,
oh, well, yeah, well, you can come in
for 45 bucks or something.
And I got so pissed off, I said,
screw these guys.
I'm going to find some other system.
And I decided I was going to move
back to track phone or something super cheap.
And metro cellular.
But I put the drawer in the phone,
and I never took it out.
I never did any of this other stuff
except to eventually get a track phone account
for the Uber at 15 bucks.
And so it was T-Mobile that actually
triggered this.
And once I got the phone in the
drawer, and I'd go to the store, and
I didn't have the phone after a while.
It takes about a week or two.
It takes about two weeks before you realize
that you don't need the time.
And in situations where you do need a
phone, somebody's got one.
And you can have them do the work
for you.
I mean, this was the dinner table conversations
used to be, everyone had their phone, and
somebody wanted to look something up.
I'd just tell, hey, look something, look up
this on your, you got your phone, I
always said.
You got your phone right there, look it
up.
And so people would always, you know, scatter
to their phones and look stuff up and
do that.
I realized I didn't need this stupid phone
with me.
Well, but you, okay, but there is one
small point you're overlooking.
You, yes, you go to, you go out,
you go places, but you're not like most
people who are out all day long and
need the phone.
What do you need it for?
For, to be interrupted every 13 minutes, apparently.
The thing, so here, and Apple is a
big part of the problem.
This texting used to be great.
The BlackBerry, for me, was the ultimate phone.
It was a texting machine.
You could text with two thumbs.
It had a tactile.
This is how you, this is when you
first got addicted.
I want to say.
No, no, no, no, no, stop.
Okay, go ahead.
I want to go ahead, Kara.
One more story.
I used to, I remember the BlackBerry era,
and there were all these guys with their
BlackBerry, and they're always texting on it.
They're constantly on it.
So I'm on a plane with a friend
of mine who's a BlackBerry nut.
He's got this thing constantly.
He's looking, it's not the same as today's
phone, where people are walking down the street.
I saw a guy yesterday walking his dog,
looking at the phone, and the guy's going
to kill himself, walking, wandering around with the
dogs, pulling wherever he wants, because the guy's
not even seeing where he's walking.
So the BlackBerry guy, so the guy, we
flew, and it was, the BlackBerry had to
be off on the flight, and this guy
got, it was a three or four hour
flight, and as the flight continued, you could
see him getting more and more and more
nervous, and getting jittery.
And so when we finally landed, he jumped
on that BlackBerry so fast, it was like
to see what the hell was going on,
because it was so important, but he wasn't
a doctor on call.
I mean, I don't get it.
And so I, and from then on, I've
always been very skeptical of these devices.
This is true, what you're saying.
That's why they call it the CrackBerry, and
that probably did start a lot of the
addiction.
But today, I find the only thing you
really need is the ability to text somebody.
I like being able to take a picture,
and I like being able to listen to
podcasts.
And I think it's handy to have some
kind of GPS-like functionality, because I am
challenged.
Above a thousand feet, I'm good.
I'm just, I just don't have this gene.
I don't know what it is.
Tina scoffs at me for it.
I just can't, I'm not good at it.
You can't find your way around.
I can't find my way around.
But for, now, I'm not talking about today's
texting.
I'm talking about just sending a message, not
these long threads with people in groups and
sending links.
Well, hold on a second.
I'm going to have to stop you.
Did you find your way around when you're
a little kid?
No, but I got hopelessly lost.
They had to come get me at the,
I had to, like.
Okay, so it's always.
Could Adam's parents please come to the checkout?
He's lost.
That was me.
Oh, okay.
Well, because I think a lot of people
are losing their sense of being able to
find their way around.
It doesn't get any better.
Of course not.
There's no practice.
You don't, of course, that's obvious.
But I'm a 21st century man, so I
need to have some kind of direction.
But I'm fine with whatever's in my car.
You know, I'm okay.
It works fine enough.
So, I am very, I have one in
order, the Light Phone 3.
I've tried the Light Phone 2.
It had the right idea, but you couldn't
really text.
I just want to be able to send
a text.
And if someone sends me a link in
a text, I'm not going to get it.
It'll say, there's a link to this.
You can get that later on your computer.
I think you are able to send a
picture to somebody.
But the limitation is important.
It's important.
That's why there's only 20 cigarettes in a
pack.
You got to be out of them at
a certain point.
But it is a health crisis.
And I'm happy that the people who are
mainly responsible for all of this nonsense, Apple,
that they're going to get dinged.
And, you know, just, yes, I'm all for
just a simple phone with text and phone
and some, you know, I like to take
a picture.
And if it has a hotspot, that's even
better.
So, if I really needed to hook up
a computer, I can hook up a computer.
Let's listen to the second of this clip
because we're only through the first one in
the series.
It can only get better.
So, a lot of people go their whole
day without ever having a moment to just
think.
It's constant media, whether you're listening to music
or podcasts or audiobooks.
So, then when you actually give yourself space
to think, you're not used to it.
You're sort of out of practice and your
thoughts are pretty quiet or alternatively, they're frightening
because you haven't thought them for so long.
You haven't dealt with any of your emotions.
So, it was an uncomfortable experience for me
just being in my own mind.
And then as time went on, my thoughts
became a lot more interesting and stimulating.
And now I'll happily walk around for hours
without headphones and just think.
Was there a period in there, though, before
that where you were really tempted to go
back?
Oh, absolutely.
I had a lot of stumbling blocks along
the way.
I was infuriated.
I felt like I was in solitary confinement
in my own mind.
And I'm really glad that I pushed through
that.
I did also try an iPod for a
while.
I got an old iPod, but I don't
need that anymore.
So, how has giving up your smartphone impacted
your relationships?
My relationships are stronger because when I'm actually
spending time with these people in person, I'm
fully present and I'm fully listening and I'm
not waiting for the interaction to end so
I can check my email again.
When you think about the current news environment,
some people may feel anxious reading the news
and knowing what's going on, but many people
may feel anxious not knowing what's happening or
a responsibility to stay informed.
What would you say to someone who is
maybe feeling cut off from what's happening around
them without a smartphone?
I think there's a health and a simplicity
to reading things that are collected and presented
once in a while, not constantly, and not
hearing about news the moment it happens before
the questions are answered and before things are
clarified.
It's a health crisis.
Where's Bobby the Op?
It's a health crisis, these phones.
Yeah, that's going to be low on the
list.
Yeah.
Well, fluoride first.
He's doing that.
And then...
That's about time.
Talk about overdue.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, last clip.
It's a feeling of civic duty to check
the news and that can be a great
excuse when you, deep down, just want entertainment
and you don't want to be in reality.
You want to be away from the problems
of your own life or from the boredom
of it.
So I would just suggest...
By the way, you could replace phone here
for cigarettes, crack, meth, alcohol.
All of those apply.
This is pure addiction and it's tailored for
addiction.
We know this.
This is no secret.
So, you know, what is NPR's problem?
You want to be away from the problems
of your own life or from the boredom
of it.
So I would just suggest getting the newspaper
or if you have to do it digitally,
you know, getting one digital update, but not
this endless scroll, not these sort of belligerent
notifications about the news, because it just makes
it so you're never in one place.
You're never in the place of reading the
news and you're never in the place of
your actual circumstances.
You're always in between.
That's August Lamb.
She's an artist, writer, and activist who recently
published pieces in The Guardian and New York
Times about giving up her smartphone.
August, thank you so much for talking to
me today.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
So I think what's going on here is
you're just mad that they're getting this woman,
this artist and activist when they really should
have been interviewing you.
Well, you know what?
Have you written this up?
I'm a tech guy that doesn't use a
smartphone.
How does that work?
I mean, no, no.
It's much more interesting than some artist activist.
I have told you what you're doing wrong.
If you now is the time.
This is an exit strategy for you and
for you only.
And I would support it.
You need to become the tech grouch again.
Once you're the tech grouch, everybody will want
to interview you.
And then, of course, you've got to schlep
around that outfit all over the place.
And you've got to keep the voice going.
iPhone, smartphone.
I got a Bakelite phone.
It's fine.
People will love you.
They will glom on to the tech grouch.
I'm working on it.
I'm getting the green screen this week.
There will be chicks in college with T
-shirts.
I love the tech grouch.
Yes, yes.
This is the direction you need to go.
This is your third breath of life.
Let's face it.
Podcasting is played, man.
You got to go back to being the
tech grouch.
That was sexy.
That was hot.
People loved it.
Well, the time is now.
The time is right.
Time is right.
While we're on technology, by the way, I
saw another CNBC.
Quantum!
Quantum!
It's all quantum!
Somebody was in the EU going on and
on about one thing or another.
And as soon as they dropped the word
quantum, yeah, once we get to AI and
then quantum.
It's all quantum.
You know that they don't know what they're
doing.
They're idiots.
It's all quantum.
It's all quantum.
And so Amazon, arguably a very successful technology
company with their Amazon Web Services, AWS.
And, you know, every startup uses them.
So they finally come out with their new
NovaSonic.
Amazon's NovaSonic.
This is AI.
It's AI for voice.
It's AI.
Well, they only really have one demo and
one application.
And I'm going to play it in real
time.
I could have cut out the pauses, but
that doesn't give you the full experience of
the only thing AI so far is going
to be good for, and I think it
sucks, is call centers and help desks.
Here is the big Amazon NovaSonic demo.
Hi, is this Anytelco customer support?
Hello, yes.
This is Anytelco's customer support.
Can you please provide your phone number so
I can look up your account information?
Um, sure.
Yeah, it's 510-123-4567.
Listen to the pause in between.
Thank you for providing your phone number.
I've retrieved your account information.
How can I assist you today?
Why is my bill this high?
It's ridiculous.
How are you charging me this much?
I understand your concern about the high bill.
Let's look into it.
Your current bill...
At this point, don't you just want to
rip your head off when you're talking?
You're like, what kind of human being can
interact with this this way?
This is actually one of the better examples.
AT&T uses the system.
And they have the do do do do
do do do do do do do do
do do do do do do do do
do do do do do...
in between when it's thinking.
Do do do do do do do do
do do do do do do do do
do do do do do do do do
do do do do do do do do
do do...
No, no, it's just I'm going to have
to record.
You know, I've been told to do this.
I'm going to have to get off the
stick and do it, which has rigged some
of these phones of mine up.
The landline!
The landline!
I had to rig these phones up so
I can record these calls because some of
these automated systems are so lame.
It's like, you can't afford some dollar-an
-hour person in India, I mean, who can
barely speak English, that would be better than
this.
Yeah, the true AI.
Anonymous Indian, that's what we need.
Always name Steve.
Actually, I got an interesting, what was this,
where was it, there was a TikTok ad.
TikTok, I have a couple of TikToks.
Yeah, good, I'm going to set you up.
First, I'm going to play the clip, then
I have something to read.
TikTok literally helped Dan O's grow from a
one-man show to 45 team members in
Louisville, Kentucky.
There's no way I'd be able to support
this building or any of my employees without
TikTok.
It's not just about me anymore.
TikTok brings in so much foot traffic.
To be able to have 28 employees and
everybody's paid well, it's just a blessing.
It's a blessing, it's a blessing.
So there's more than a few of those
ads out there, I've seen a bunch of
them.
We have a number of producers who are
inside the TikTok ecosystem and they received an
email from TikTok, a subject line, this plays
on something we talked about on the last
show, important de minimis announcement for TikTok shop.
What?
De minimis?
De minimis, yes.
You know, it will explain de minimis.
I don't know the explanation, it's just a
dumb phrase that's used for some reason or
other.
Well, de minimis is the under $800 packages
that now...
Oh, that's right.
It was talked about that Trump dropped these
de minimis.
Yes.
Hello TikTok shop sellers, we want to ensure
you're informed of the changes to the de
minimis exemption for goods originating from certain countries.
What is the de minimis exception?
Exemption.
And then it has a link.
Currently exempt shipments valued at or under $800
USD from tariffs.
What changed?
The U.S. government announced plans to remove
de minimis treatment for products from China, including
Hong Kong effective May 2nd, 2025.
What does this mean?
Well, when the de minimis exemption is removed
from a country's goods, duties will be applicable
to all impacted shipments regardless of value and
additional supporting documentation may be required to import
previously exempt goods into the U.S. What
happens now?
Sellers should continue to ensure they are familiar
with all requirements for importing goods into the
U.S. We are actively monitoring these developments.
We'll keep you informed.
So there they got problems.
This whole operation was based on that.
And I saw this morning that Andrew, the
Andrew New York Times character was interviewing the
CEO of Amazon.
I wish I'd clipped it.
He said, so how about your bid for
TikTok?
And he says, we never said we bid
for TikTok.
He said, well, it was reported, said that
was reported.
So he's pretending like they didn't bid on
it now, which I thought was interesting.
Well, they're bailing out.
Might be.
Might be.
Yeah, this de minimis thing may be the
besides being a $50 minimum, which really screws
up because before you just buy something for
eight bucks and show up in the mail
in three or four days.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is huge.
Amazon is their big deal is we're going
to sell you drugs.
Pharmacy.
Pharmacy is what it's all about.
That's the last place I want to get
it.
No.
Hey, if the CEO said if you're not
feeling well, it's great to get your medicine,
your meds within a few hours.
You don't want to have to go to
Walmart or CVS.
You want to get it delivered to your
home.
You sick person.
So I've run into I don't have I
only have two clips from TikTok, but they
are they're short.
One is only 10 seconds.
I have one, but I'll wait until yours
are done.
Minor thematic.
These are women with grievances.
Oh, OK.
Toward everybody.
It seems to me they're just it's just
women with things just against men.
It's like I see the lesbians in got
in some sort of guise or I'm not
absolutely sure what what's causing this.
But the first one is, is the dinner
one.
Let's play that.
Let me just go ahead and get this
out there right now.
If a man ever looks at me and
says, hey, babe, what's for dinner?
And like means it like assumes I'm in
charge of dinner.
What's for dinner?
Divorce.
That's what's for dinner.
That's just engagement farming.
She she's not going to divorce anybody.
She's not going to get married.
Not if she doesn't cook.
And here's another one.
This is a single mom with a bunch
of kids who is now putting demands on
who she's going to date.
These are the requirements that you need to
have in order to take me a single
mom of three kids.
Number one is that you need to be
making at least one hundred thirty K a
year and you need to have at least
two side hustles.
If you cannot make one hundred thirty K
or more, then you are out of my
fucking league.
How do you expect to give me money
for my kids if you only make fifty
K a year?
Second is I don't date men that are
younger than me because for obvious reasons.
So if you are twenty six and over,
then you qualify.
Twenty six to thirty five is the age
limit.
OK, I feel like thirty five is pushing
it because they look old as fuck already.
I'm twenty six.
I'm a baby.
So, yeah, you have to have at least
three cars under your name.
Your second car has to have eight seats
because I have three kids.
Oh, I want them to be comfortable whenever
we go with you on a trip or
something.
You want me to come with you?
I'm going to bring my kids and you
need to have enough space for my kids.
So that's why I require you to have
an SUV and a vehicle of your own
if you're going to be dating me.
Another requirement is that you have to have
a property under your and you have to
be looking into getting your second property, have
to get a home that has six rooms
because each of my kids have to be
in their own room.
So you have to be considerate.
Purchase a house that has six rooms because
that's only common sense.
And if you cannot meet those requirements, then
you're not the fucking one.
Last requirement is that it has to be
pink.
It's not pink.
No, pink and brown go together.
Pink and brown.
Like what do I mean?
You know?
Well, this is very sad.
This is what happens with women like this.
And it happens with men, too.
But with women like this, they are they're
on the tick tock and they're constantly getting
barraged with DMS. Hey, baby.
Hey, baby, let's hook up because that is
the entire culture of the phone and social
media.
And she's now she thinks that that's real
and that these people don't just want to
hook up with her and reenact some OnlyFans
fantasy.
So she thinks that she's now popular and
that she can make these demands and that
that's actually going to work out for her.
This is very sad.
It's a very sad state of affairs.
And I heard yesterday that 80 million, I
know it was like 68 million men in
America have an OnlyFans account, which I don't
think includes you because your phone's in the
drawer.
Yeah.
But this doesn't include.
But this is a plague.
This is a plague.
Wait, I got another stat.
Supposedly, I heard this just the other day.
10% of all women between the ages
of 18 and 25 are OnlyFans women.
There's millions of them.
Yeah, I believe it.
I believe it.
So 10% of the women out there
are on OnlyFans stripping and then you have
all these guys that are with these accounts.
Yeah, this is not healthy.
Why are we wasting our time podcasting?
You could be telling the tech grouch to
take his pants off.
This is this is this is your edges.
Yeah.
All right.
I have a tick tock clip, which is
this is baffling, baffling.
But this is under my heading of delusional
Dems.
Well, there are rumblings all over the media
now that on April 20th, Trump will declare
martial law, which effectively means the military takes
over for the police.
Free speech becomes illegal.
Protests become illegal.
You have to have the permission of the
military to do anything.
And worse than that, the commander in chief,
Trump, can do basically anything he wants, literally.
OK, we may be looking at the end
of American democracy and we have 13 days
left.
OK, here's my point.
Please prepare your family for the worst.
The other rumor is that they're going to
seize all the guns.
So if you have a gun, you want
to keep it, you might want to bury
it in your backyard.
Stock up on food.
Please stop spending money you don't have to
spend.
You may need it.
OK, if he shuts everything down, you're going
to need some cash.
You're going to need something.
OK, please prepare your family for the worst
and hope for the best.
So this is the first I heard of
it, but I guess the rumors out there.
But what was crazy is here in the
hill country, in Little Fredericksburg, all of a
sudden we got the we got the phones
blowing up.
Everybody's going crazy.
Oh, have you heard about this?
The Muslims are coming in 400 acres of
beautiful scenery.
Welcome to the future of living.
Welcome to Epic City.
In promotional videos, Epic City is a collection
of single and multifamily homes and commercial developments
surrounding a mosque and school.
Epic City is more than just a neighborhood.
It's a way of life.
But last month, online Governor Abbott raised the
rumor of Sharia law playing a part.
State Rep Jeff Leach wrote a letter asking
the attorney general to investigate, and Epic responded
to the governor online, saying our vision is
to build a diverse, safe and inclusive community
and will follow all local, state and federal
laws.
And the resident scholar at Epic acknowledged the
noise.
You're probably aware that on social media, there's
a lot of negative campaigns against our particular
masjid, Epic, because of our project, Epic City,
right?
And a lot of the far right are
riling up hatred.
Now this week, Abbott and Paxton announced a
dozen state agencies are investigating the proposed development,
alleging serious legal issues.
The Texas Funeral Commission sent a cease and
desist letter alleging illegal funeral services at the
East Plano Islamic Center and the governor on
X writing.
This is the tip of the iceberg.
The proposed community will never see the light
of day.
Representatives for Epic City could not be reached
for comment on Thursday, but last month invited
the governor to see the site and maybe
some barbecue to learn more about the project.
So I'm baffled by this.
Barbecue is a lot of pork.
Yeah, I'm baffled by this because this epic
community, which is 74 homes built near a
big mosque, I will add that has been
there for 12 years.
This is nothing new, but the mosque there,
the mosque is there.
They have a video.
They have a video.
Oh, it's epic.
We're going to build this great Sharia law,
which they don't say in their video, but
that's what's being said.
But I think what's happening here is you
have...
Where is this?
Hold on.
Plano, Plano, Plano, Plano, Texas.
Oh, that's north of Dallas.
That's nowhere near you.
No, of course not.
But it was all said, but that's where
Ross Perot used to be in Plano.
Yeah.
They're all upset, but it's like, I think
Ken Paxton, he is now launching his senatorial
race.
And I think, is Abbott up for reelection?
I don't know.
This reeks of nonsense.
Oh, I see.
You think it's just political.
Yeah, yeah.
That makes sense.
It is, but it's like all of a
sudden this storm, like we have nothing.
Look at your own town.
We got a lot of stuff going on
here.
Don't worry about Plano.
Let Plano worry about Plano.
Well, it's going to be Sharia law.
So?
Sharia law.
That doesn't supersede U.S. law.
If they want to do certain things based
on their religion, then do whatever they want.
As long as they don't stone anybody.
Yeah, and don't break the law, that's fine.
But everyone's all upset about it.
It's the phones, man.
It's the phones.
They're no good.
Yeah, I'm very anti-phone.
I ran into an oddball clip.
This is from Tucker.
He's had some interesting people on recently.
Yeah, he's getting some screen.
He's got a new booker or something.
He's getting all kinds.
Yeah, I'm waiting.
I'm waiting for my call.
I think I should be on Tucker.
I don't know.
Yes, I'm the inventor of podcasting.
Yeah, you are, but I don't know if...
I just don't see you and Tucker, actually.
You know, I can see you and Beck
getting along famously.
In fact, Beck thinks you're his brother.
Until I didn't want to work on Fridays
for him, then all of a sudden...
He'll get you back on if you actually
wanted to go on.
And then I can see you and Rogan,
because Rogan's kind of a, you know, you
and him, I can see that.
Tucker and I, we got Jesus in common,
man.
I don't see why.
There's a connection right there.
I don't think it's the same Jesus.
Is it a different Jesus?
Well, it could be in Tucker's case.
Okay.
So Tucker brought on the guy who is
one of the executives at Budweiser, and the
whole thing, a very good interview, because the
guy has nothing but stories to tell.
Oh, this is about the woke stuff and
how they...
About the woke stuff and all the rest
of it.
But, and they're talking about Dylan Mulvaney and
how they screwed that up.
And the guy who runs the Budweiser division,
they talk about him a little bit, and
the fact that nobody got fired over the
Dylan Mulvaney thing and the huge billions of
dollars in losses, and they haven't been able
to recover.
They still haven't.
But then Tucker discusses the guy who is
the division CEO of Anheuser-Busch, this ex
-CIA guy, and he makes some generalities about
CEOs that I thought was...
I never heard this before from him or
anybody else, but now that he mentions it,
I thought this was a pretty good analysis.
And it starts off with the other guy
talking a little bit about how the situation
fell apart.
And then Tucker goes into his little diatribe.
And so all of a sudden, the company
actually, its sales declined even more.
And funny enough...
Is he still there?
He's still there, which is crazy.
Everyone is still there.
There's been zero accountability for this, despite the
fact...
I don't know the guy.
I've met him and talked to him, former
CIA guy.
He told me, right?
Extremely physically fit.
Big, big, big CrossFit guy.
Most CEOs I've met, and particularly the more
disconnected from manufacturing they are, the more finance
-oriented they are, the better physical condition they're
in.
Just cut jawlines.
They all played lacrosse at Middlebury.
They're always on...
The guy looks like G.I. Joe.
A hundred percent.
I'm not against physical fitness.
I could use a little more myself.
But that doesn't seem like a relevant criterion
if you're choosing a CEO, and yet every...
Larry Fink is kind of budgy, so I'm
on his side for that.
But it feels like whoever's doing the hiring
here is doing it based on appearance.
And these are white people mostly, so it's
not DEI exactly, but it is a form
of DEI.
Like why...
That guy seemed like every other CEO I've
met in the last 10 years.
Vapid, afraid, completely terrified.
You could smell the fear on the guy.
Obsessed with his physical appearance, and totally lacking
creativity.
Are those fair descriptions?
That was just my reaction from spending an
evening with him.
That's amazing.
I mean, you spent one evening with him.
I spent, I don't know, I've known Brendan
for 10 years, 15 years.
I'm not saying he's like a terrible person.
I'm sure, you know, I don't know that,
but he is definitely...
And I hate to single him out, though.
He's a former CIA guy, which should be
disqualifying right there, but...
Oh, I'm sorry.
But he seemed emblematic of an entire class
of people who, in my pretty extensive experience
around them, are deeply unimpressive.
The reason this kind of got my attention
is because I know some people that are
high-end individuals that have made the same
observation about especially the fear thing.
He says a lot of companies are run
by guys who are just, everything is based
on fear.
And everything, you know, it's not, they're not
positive people.
They're reactive.
And the CEO's class of America seems to
be people, which what Carlson says, he's run
into a bunch of them, I'm sure he
has, that are just this fear-based, lousy,
uncreative group of people that are running the
country.
Yes.
Well, I just thought it was an interesting
observation.
I would say that's correct.
No argument for me.
What happened?
Well, I don't know what happened.
You know, all these...
What happened is cheap stuff from China is
what happened.
And so we get all these big mega
companies with a lot of middle management.
I don't know.
I want to go back to simpler times,
John.
I found it depressing that this observation of
Puckers.
Yeah, I think he's not wrong.
But everyone should just be podcasting and cleaning
each other's house and be great.
We'll have a good time.
So this was a very disturbing report, not
just for the nurses involved, but for the
total lack of awareness of what's happened in
our world, particularly in the last five years.
She's a longtime nurse at Newton Wellesley Hospital
who didn't want to reveal her identity.
But she's speaking out after being diagnosed with
a brain tumor and says she's not alone
among her nursing colleagues.
It's getting to the point where the number
just increases and you start saying, am I
crazy thinking this?
Like I can't, this can't just be a
coincidence.
She claims as many as 10 nurses who
all work on the fifth floor maternal care
ward have been diagnosed with different brain tumors
over the last few years.
Some cancerous, some not.
Three, she says, have had surgery and believes
the hospital has not been supportive enough.
We want reassurance because this has been a
not reassuring past few months for a lot
of staff members.
And we just want to feel safe the
same way we want to make our patients
feel safe.
The hospital confirms it has been investigating since
December and has interviewed 10 nurses, six of
whom it says have differing brain tumors.
But the hospital also says no risk factors
have been found linking these cases to that
fifth floor.
In a statement, the hospital says it conducted
a CDC-guided investigation and shared the results.
The investigation found no environmental risks which could
be linked to the development of a brain
tumor.
The State Department of Public Health says it
is also looking into the cases while nurses
are calling for an independent investigation.
Yes, I think the concern is we don't
know what it is.
And nurses are, you know, scared, they're worried.
And they want to make sure they're not
working, you know, in an unsafe place.
I think the nurses should be the first
people because we were the ones that brought
it to their attention to be told.
And we feel like we've been the last
to be informed on anything.
If there is a connection here, their search
for answers is far from over.
So sad about this.
Yeah, this is a great story.
It's been floating around and they can't, they
haven't got a clue.
No idea what could have happened.
And they're like, well, could it be environmental
on the fifth floor?
Could it just be that?
Is it something in the walls?
But no one points out the obvious.
Safe and effective is what I want to
point out.
It's just, you know, I was thinking that
might be frustrating.
Why would it just be this one ward?
I mean, if it would that be hospital
wide.
Oh, I think it's because they just happen
to have this one one ward and they're
just focusing everybody on it.
Don't look over here.
Look at the fifth floor.
I don't trust any of this reporting.
So you think the reporting is flawed?
Of course.
Then we go to then we go to
CBS, who had a fascinating report, which is
surprising for a number of reasons.
This is Five years ago today, at the
beginning of the pandemic, Johns Hopkins reported that
more than 400,000 people in the U
.S. had come down with COVID and nearly
15,000 had died.
Two months later, our Dr. John LaPook was
among the first to report that COVID is
spread through the air.
In tonight's Eye on America, Dr. LaPook introduces
you to a new weapon against airborne diseases,
COVID, bird flu and many more.
Oh, we've got a bird flu has rocked
the dairy industry and infected 70 people in
the United States.
But there's a bigger concern, a pandemic in
humans.
As we have human infections with these avian
viruses, a random mutation might emerge that is
more fit in a human.
So there you go.
University of Pennsylvania researcher Scott Hensley has been
studying bird flu for 15 years.
And if that mutation would arise, then we
fear the virus might be able to transmit
human to human through the air, through the
air.
Yeah, that's the fear.
As far as we know, that has not
happened yet.
But if it does, a new technology is
waiting in the wings.
It's called far UVC, far UVC.
Does that sound familiar to you?
Well, not to me, but it will.
It will play another clip.
See these far UVC lamps.
They emit a type of light that can
kill microscopic germs floating in the air.
Columbia University physicist David Brenner explained these lights
work by damaging the genes of disease causing
microbes.
Brenner's initial main target has been seasonal flu.
But that could change.
UV light really doesn't care about the details
of whether it's a bacteria or a virus.
It can kill all of them, essentially.
Conventional UVC is used to sanitize surfaces in
places such as hospitals.
But it's not shine directly at people because
it can harm the eyes and skin.
In contrast, the shorter wavelength far UVC is
safer because it can't penetrate the tear layer
of the eye or the top layers of
skin.
The CDC says far UVC is promising, but
more research is needed.
One reason David Brenner, an advisor to a
manufacturer of UVC lamps, set up a UVC
laboratory.
This is an experimental room that simulates real
life.
That's a far UVC lamp.
They can control all sorts of conditions here,
humidity, airflow.
They can also measure the amount of virus
in the air before and after they turn
on the far UVC lamp.
I'd say the development has been slow and
steady.
So these journalists and doctors, all of them
have somehow forgotten how in 2020, President Trump
was mocked endlessly for this.
A question that probably some of you are
thinking of if you're totally into that world,
which I find to be very interesting.
So supposing we hit the body with a
tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful
light.
And I think you said that hasn't been
checked, but you're going to test it.
And then I said, supposing you brought the
light inside the body, which you can do
either through the skin or in some other
way.
And I think you said you're going to
test that too.
Sounds interesting.
Do you remember how they laughed and laughed
and laughed?
Oh, crazy Trump with his UV lamp.
Oh, that was so silly.
That's so crazy.
Somehow they forgot to report that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm just, I just, you know, but I
have a, I have a long memory of
these things.
And so now they're doing the same.
They're getting bleached.
We'll be up next.
Yeah.
Bleach.
If you drink bleach, it's always going to
be good.
Hey, with that, I want to thank you
for your courage in the morning to you,
the man who put the C in the
UVC lamp.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end.
The one, the only Mr. for cell phone
in a drawer.
John C.
Yeah.
Well, in the morning, it was Ann Curry
in the morning.
I should have seen boots on the ground,
feet in the air, subs in the water.
In the morning to the trolls in the
troll room.
Stop moving around.
Let me count you for a second.
It's kind of the new normal 1907, 1907
trolls listening along to the no agenda show,
listening live, which is better than most studio
audiences.
Let me tell you that because of course
we've been doing this for more than 17
years and we've seen it all people more
than once.
Yes.
Did we, did we even have, when we
started the show, there was barely smartphones, but
I think we just had the iPhone one.
If I'm, if I'm like, no, we, when
did, what was the year that we started
in 2007?
Well, that would be iPhone.
Yes.
I remember because I remember that, uh, Chris
Jacob bought one for me in San Francisco
and I took it back to the UK
and I was, and I was like, Oh,
what is that?
And I had the iPhone on that iPhone.
You couldn't copy or paste.
That was the funniest thing.
And then I had had it only three
days and I dropped it in the toilet.
Oh, I remember the toilet story.
Yeah.
You bent over to flush the toilet and
it came out of your pocket or something
and fell in and you dug it out.
Yes.
And then I put it into kitty litter.
I tried all kinds of things and it
never came back to life.
It was, it was, it was a sad
day in techno world.
Yeah.
So I've never owned an iPhone.
No.
And I'll never own one that I'm, I've,
I've sworn off all Apple products because you
can't trust them.
Can't trust them.
They can't, not for any use that is
to me useful to me like USB.
Like you can't trust them with USB.
Those guys, it doesn't matter.
That's my problem.
Oh.
And by the way, please, please.
Every single time we talk about Linux and
I say, I can't use it for my
professional audio set up there.
No.
Yeah, you can.
Did you try wine?
Did you, did you try this?
Did you try that?
Hey man, Jack, you can use Jack and
you can route it all.
And then it worked.
No, it doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
Stop it, please.
And I'll say, no, no, I've tried it.
I'm looking like, no man, you could set
it up.
You can, you could hire some guys to
do it.
Okay.
How about I just use a crappy windows
box?
It just works.
I use Linux mid for all my other
stuff.
It's not a question of the Linux, but
it's the drivers.
It's always the drivers.
Anyway, this is a, a delight to do
this show, to do it live.
We stream it live.
Troll room.io is where you can join
in.
If you want to troll along and listen
live, or you can use a modern podcast
app.
Many of them receive the bat signal alerts
you.
Oh, there's yet another alert you need on
your phone, but you need it for this.
You need to know when we're going live.
And then, and there's no video.
You just listen.
Just, you can do other things.
You can be smiling, laughing out loud.
People think you're just having a good time
at work.
And we all know you're not.
And you listen to the no agenda show.
And, and with that modern podcast app, you
get all kinds of extra features like the
artwork.
We have chapters with artwork that Dreb Scott
puts together for us.
And we are blessed by an entire community
of artists who is a part of our
value for value model are happy to contribute
some time and talent of the three T's,
which includes treasure to help support the show,
to make it look good.
So we always have some fresh art.
It's good in the podcast app.
It looks great when we promote the show.
It's great for the newsletter and it's, and
there's just more fun to be had looking
at those chapters, even in the car, they,
they, they change per topic and it gives
you an extra jolt of humor.
And, uh, we're going to thank the artists
for episode 1753.
We called that one local Jamoche.
Um, it was not easy choosing a piece.
Uh, this was a bad, this was a
bad, uh, series.
I, again, of course I blamed the show.
Yeah.
It's always our fault.
It is our fault because if we don't
have something that triggers, uh, artists, uh, to
come up with ideas, if there's no triggering
mechanism, then they can't come up with ideas.
And then, then whose fault is that?
It's our fault.
It's our fault.
Yes.
Uh, but Nessworks did a yeoman's job and
he came up with a can of dirt,
organic dirt, eat dirt.
It's all you can afford.
Uh, and we appreciate that Nessworks and that
is not AI.
I guarantee you there's less and less AI.
Interestingly, it seems to me, you know, it
seems like the AI has gotten really good.
Maybe.
I don't think so.
Let's see what else.
There was another dirt that we looked at.
There was, um, Tonto Neal's dirt, imported dirt
for poor people.
It was, for me, it was close between
those two.
I liked the tariffs on penguins piece, but
you hated it to such an extreme.
It didn't even get into the play.
I wouldn't say I hated anything.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Well, this was a piece.
It just looked washed out.
And when you, when you embiggened it, the
no agenda letters were just kind of floating.
They weren't even on the, on the penguin,
uh, you know, piece of ice that they
were on.
It looked washed out.
Yeah, it does.
It was a little washed out.
It was washed out.
Let me see.
Oh yeah.
Um, D of NC.
Uh, we didn't think the Ku Klux Klan
with burning Tesla cross was going to work.
So we just, we, we thought that might
be taking it.
That was not a good one.
No.
And we weren't, it's the same as the
gummy Jesus.
We weren't going to do that.
But if you did that just to make
us laugh.
Okay.
I personally liked, I don't know why I
like scare manga, save the bees.
That just, I thought it was a cute
piece and you hated it with a vengeance.
You just, I didn't hate it with a
vengeance.
I just thought it was boring.
Yeah.
I'm boring.
And the Hey, Hey, Ho Ho, uh, MAGA
hat.
I thought that was kind of cute.
Um, yeah, again, it was not, it was
just too plain.
Everybody loved the idea of the, of the
book that helps you get rid of your
phone addiction as a hollow book and you
put your phone in it.
Uh, and a number of artists came up
with some concepts, but I also got people
sending me links to manufacturers who make these
kinds of things that I forwarded to you.
Yeah, I know.
I got it.
Napko, whatever the company has you.
Have you ordered anything yet?
I haven't ordered anything.
I'm looking at their, I'm going to get
a hold of them and see if they
can even do that.
Yeah, I ordered stuff.
We order what they don't make hollow books,
but there's the possibility that they can.
It's another great idea.
I mean, I've come up with ideas.
We get the podfather awards.
I'm the idea man.
And you're the execution man.
Yeah.
Which means I execute most of these ideas.
Ah, people, we're just going to be, we're
going to wind up dying.
I like the morning coffee one with the
dog at the microphone.
It was all right.
It was all right.
It was all right.
It's just something funny about a dog podcasting.
We, uh, we love the value for value
model, uh, for so many different reasons, uh,
mainly because we don't have to have meetings
with advertisers.
That was the original impetus for not doing
that.
But also, um, you get to value the
podcast at the amount that you think it's
worth.
And that, that is, that's a very fair
system.
And to close the loop, we always thank
people, uh, and, uh, $50 or above.
We tell you who it is, uh, how
much money they supported us with.
And we have a special moment here in
the show, uh, where we give an extra
benefits to people who came in with more
money than usual, $200 or above.
You get the title of associate executive producer,
and we read your note.
And that title is a Hollywood credit.
You can use it anywhere.
Hollywood credits are accepted and recognized, including imdb
.com $300 or above you become an executive
producer.
And once again, we read your notes and
we're going to kick it off with Anthony.
Yes, I was going to do something before.
Oh, what were you going to do?
A couple of whoops.
What are you doing?
What I had to reach for this paper.
Oh, okay.
Um, I wanted to thank a couple more
people from the no agenda.
Did you forget that on the last show?
No, I thank most of them, but I
didn't thank violet that the little baby, the
Bush is now older.
I think five, maybe.
I, unfortunately I don't know her.
She's a, I don't know about you, but
little kids, they, they like their age to
be exact.
Yes.
Yes.
Five and a half, four and a half,
you know, that kind of thing.
Yes.
Four and, and nine months.
Uh, she gave me a, uh, a sweatshirt,
uh, hoodie, uh, with the, uh, pizzeria Violetta's,
uh, logo on it and a nice and
a big logo on the back.
Not very nice piece.
She comes over with a little bag and
gives it your mom.
You're a sucker.
You're a sucker for kids, aren't you?
You just love the toddlers.
Kids are great.
And so the other one, the other person
I wanted to thank was sir.
Lawrence of dystopia.
I forgot to thank him.
He did donate money, but he also gave
me a gift.
And so, and then, and the gift was,
it was the wildest bottle of, uh, uh,
Johnny Walker blue that I've ever seen.
It was the bottle itself has been that's
completely redone.
That's top-notch stuff.
It's the best product.
Wow.
Uh, and it came in a, in a
package that was like a purse of some
sort.
It was like a, like a, a puffy
jacket made out of that material that it
could be turned inside out in the head.
It's so ridiculous.
I don't know what this comes from.
The bottle itself has been changed.
It's stuff printed all over the bottle.
It's such a collectible.
I'm not sure what to do with it.
And I'm not sure what it drink it,
drink it on the show.
I don't drink when I'm doing the show.
Uh, but it's such a collectible.
I'd like to know the backstory on this
particular package.
That is a nice gift.
And how are you going to send me
my half of that?
I'm going to pour off half of it
into a flash.
I'm sorry.
It was a birthday gift.
I forgot.
No, that's valid.
It's a birthday gift.
I'll send you half anyway.
No, it'll be in a port of flask
and I'll put the flask in the mail
and you'll get it, uh, probably within the
next couple of years.
Okay.
Yeah.
Excellent.
I'm looking forward to that.
Or later.
Yeah.
But I, I'm just stunned by this product,
the packaging itself, the presentation.
I'd like to know more.
That's the point I'm making.
All right.
Onward.
Um, by the way, um, we, we know
we had a kind of spooky visitor at
your, at your birthday party.
I also got one of those challenge coins.
I didn't get a challenge coin.
I got a patch.
Oh, I got a challenge coin.
You only got a patch.
You went to the meetup and you got
a patch and I got the patch came
through the mail.
I didn't get a challenge.
Oh, but I, that spooky person sent me,
uh, of the same thing.
They, uh, challenge coin.
Oh, of the camp, the special camp.
Yeah.
The camp.
Yeah.
The camp.
Oh, good.
Anthony Laferla is in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
$500.
Uh, thank you very much, Anthony.
He says Commodore center light rejoice in what
time we have weaving words into the air.
My utmost appreciation for you both.
So he will be a, uh, a, uh,
Commodore today.
Oh, excellent.
Uh, Kevin drastic drastic in Brentwood, California, ritzy
area.
Uh, thanks fellas.
I like the U T O H ISO.
Uh, Oh, what are you guys?
What is that?
I'm not sure.
You guys should use it more often.
Oh, I don't know what he means.
I want to help him, but I don't
know what he means.
It could mean Utah, Ohio.
I don't think so.
I don't know what we don't have an
Oh, reposting, moving and jobs.
Karma.
You need some, I'm sorry, requesting and moving
and jobs.
Karma leaving the failed state of California and
headed to Vancouver, Washington, which is $333 and
33 cents is his donation.
And Vancouver, Washington is if you don't like
taxes, that's the place to go.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Karma.
We've got, uh, let's see a couple of,
uh, handwritten notes.
We start with, uh, sir PPT and that's
$333 and 33 cents.
Nice number in the morning.
Boys appreciate your analysis on the show.
No jingles, no karma, no shout outs, sir.
PPT PS donation accounting available upon request.
Well, does he need something?
Uh, I don't, we don't have, we only
have a Commodore.
I don't think we have any nights or
anything.
So we do have an, I had one
night that came in with a, with a
request late.
No, it was that, that did not come
through my spreadsheet.
Yeah.
Andrew.
Yeah.
He's, he's, he's moved to Sunday.
Yeah.
He's Andrew.
Uh, it will be well, PPT, uh, sir,
PPT, uh, you're already a night.
So let me know if, uh, if there's
something you need, we're happy to oblige.
We break for nights.
We do.
Uh, another note comes in from Pharaoh in
Athens.
Yes.
It's Charles, Charles, our buddy Charles with the,
with the, the Lord, uh, cream.
Ah, yes.
That's 333 33.
And he wrote a note in with his,
uh, in his letterhead in the morning, John,
thank you for your courage.
I'm delighted to send this, uh, latest, no
agenda value for value for value donation to
you.
Along with a jar of our face food,
no agenda.
Listeners have been amazing supporters of our brand
and we will continue to send treasure back
to the show.
Listeners can save.
It's got a written in here.
I can't see what 17.76% 1776.
Okay.
I get it off all Pharaoh products using
the code.
No agenda.
Check out at www Pharaoh, F A R
R O w dot life crepe neck be
damned.
It gets rid of crepe neck.
It's true.
No jingles, no karma, just glowing skin for
you and your gen X compatriot.
That would be you.
Yes, that's me.
That's right.
Even though you're really a boomer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, may the Lord be with you.
He's a Commodore by the way, Charles Commodore
hog father.
Yeah.
He's got a whole, he's got a whole
thing going on.
He's the hog father stick.
Yeah.
He's got a good stick.
He's a, he is a nice guy.
Charles is a good guy.
He comes through from time to time.
Uh, Matt Snyder's next three 33 dot 33,
dear Adam and John on one of the
first episodes.
I listened to John recommended Jacques Ellul's book
on propaganda is one of my many ways.
This has been one of the many ways
this show has added value to my life.
Happy to give some of it back.
No jingles, just double up karma for no
agenda nation.
Well, we're happy to do that.
Thank you, Matt Snyder.
You've got karma in Sioux Falls, South Dakota
comes in at $310 and says simply, thank
you.
Please play the Scott Simon jingle.
Simon, it's a winner.
Thank you.
I didn't notice it before, but he does
say this.
Yeah, it's cute.
It's hilarious.
Uh, Darth Penguin comes up next from Lockport,
Illinois with $300.
This is a switcheroo for totally not serial
killer Kate.
Yeah, I know her wife of Sir Tony
of Chicago as a belated birthday gift.
Kate hit me in the mouth a few
months ago, and I found your deconstruction of
M5M at all informing and hilarious.
I'd love some job karma for Kate and
a de-douching for me.
You've been de-douched.
Sincerely, Darth Penguin of Lock Tucky behind enemy
lines in the Democratic Republic of Illinois.
Keep up the amazing work, gentlemen.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
So the story behind totally not serial killer
Kate is she would be under a different
name, would be sending me messages on telegram.
And then all of a sudden she somehow
was sending Tina messages.
And I said, she says, do you know
this person?
I don't know, but it could be a
serial killer.
So be careful what you answer.
And it turns out she's totally not a
serial killer.
So that's good.
Well, that's good to know.
That's good.
We're happy about that.
Glenn Bukowski in Orlando, Florida is not one
either.
He's $300 in some months ago.
He writes, Chris, Sir Valera.
Sir Valera sounds right.
Yeah.
Call me out on an executive producer note
for not donating in a while.
Please deduce me.
Also, give me some baby making karma.
Chris and his smoking hot girlfriend to them.
His smoking hot girlfriend, Alexandria, who are expecting
their first human resource.
I hope this little seller comes out in
perfect health and gets all his looks from
his mother.
A little flirting going on.
In addition to the baby karma, please give
some Trump jobs karma to all those in
the no agenda nation.
Sincerely, Glenn Bukowski from Orlando, Florida.
Jobs, jobs, jobs.
You've got karma.
And coming in as our first associate executive
producer with 27272, it is old friend of
the show, Sir Cal of LavenderBlossoms.org from
Northville, Michigan.
He says, ITM friends, I've got a great
tip of the day.
Use my salves for burn relief, not some
Chinese goo that who knows what it contains.
Especially try my Cal's Cannabis line made with
full spectrum cannabis oil from my own organics.
That's with love from Sir Cal of LavenderBlossoms
.org.
Thank you, Sir Cal.
That is a good tip of the day.
Morgan Palace in Lebanon, Pennsylvania, 22222.
It's a row of ducks.
Morgan Palace pronounced like Dallas, but with a
P Palace.
And I got that right.
Of M Palace Studios here, a longtime listener,
first time donation.
Please deduce me.
You've been deduced.
My husband received a monetary birthday gift and
we both thought of nothing better to do
than to donate to the best podcast in
the universe.
Wow.
Thank you.
Thanks to Sir Gearist for hitting me in
the mouth.
I am a traditional watercolor artist who blends
my imagination with realism with a focus on
the beauty of NASA.
Send a link to your website.
I see what you got down there.
I want to take a traditional water, blah,
blah, blah.
Beauty of nature and the magic of things.
It holds magic.
It holds.
I am looking to build a self-sustaining
business with my creative abilities.
I travel to find art shows to show
my original watercolor paintings and reproduction that also
bring to life commissioned portraits, event flyers or
whatever my clients have in mind.
Please check out my Shopify website and share
with the class.
And that's M Pala P.A.L.L
.A.S. Studios with those MPP.
A.L.L.A.S. S.T.U
.D.I.O. Studio dot my Shopify dot
com.
I paint with the hopes that my creativity
inspires creativity in you.
Thank you for your courage.
And remember to surround yourself with magic over
the walls with art.
Morgan from Lebanon, Pennsylvania.
I'm looking at M Pala P.A.L
.L.A.S. S.T.U.D.I
.O. dot my Shopify dot com.
And she has phone cases, John, one for
you, a phone case.
Go in the drawer for thirty three dollars.
I like the pricing.
That's a no agenda pricing right there.
Thank you very much, Morgan.
Hey, there's Dame Astrid coming in from Tokyo,
Japan, who does not know her.
Our grand duchess, archduchess, I should say, with
a row of ducks to to to to
to please give a hearty happy birthday shout
out to Sir Mark, Archduke of Japan, who
is celebrating with his daughter Mila and son
Max and his sister Annabelle's estate in the
sunny UK.
Oh, they've got the Range Rovers out, John,
and the wellies that are on the estate.
That's so kind of you, Dame Astrid.
You must miss him.
The the shop must miss Sir Mark, but
he's having a good time celebrating his 60th
birthday.
Congratulations, brother.
That is from Dame Astrid, who says loving
you all so very much.
Archduchess of Japan and all the disputed islands
in the Japan Sea.
We have Sir Craig, Greg Bircher Dentite from
Port Angeles, Washington, 200 bucks, who writes in.
We haven't heard from him for a while.
Thank you for helping negotiate the empathocracy.
He sent me a note about this, like
you almost the word is empathocracy.
I guess that's what we're living under in
America.
Empathocracy.
Lastly, I have a vintage 1963 Mini Cooper
race car.
I've driven that car with no agenda as
part of its livery.
We do rides.
Karma for my daughter's move, please.
Really?
I'd love to see it.
Is it racing green, this Mini Cooper?
I think it might be green if I'm
not mistaken.
Mini Coopers are cool, man.
The old school ones are very cool.
Yes, the original.
Karma.
They let me drive it around.
That's nice.
Send a picture, Greg.
Wrapping it up with $200, there she is
once again.
Every single show, she comes in to support
the program and her business.
She is Linda Lou Patkins.
She's from Lakewood, Colorado, and she asks for
nothing more than jobs.
Karma, she says no tariff or taxes, just
a resume that gets results.
Go to imagemakersinc.com for all of your
executive resume and job search needs.
That's imagemakersinc with a K and work with
Linda Lou.
She is the Duchess of Jobs and the
writer of resumes.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Beautiful.
Nice little list there.
Thank you very much, Executive and Associate Executive
Producers for episode 1754.
That you can now, that title you can
use proudly anywhere where you want to on
your social media, your LinkedIn.
That'll always get you some hits.
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Thank you all for supporting us.
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Thank you again to these Executive and Associate
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Our formula is this.
We hit people in the mouth.
Okay.
Well, there's a couple other things we should
probably talk about.
The, let me see.
Yeah, on this drill baby drill, you know,
the oil baron was already saying this is
not happening.
And now Reuters is writing reports about it.
US oil producers face new challenges as top
oil field flags.
They're not getting the oil out that they
used to.
You know, remember peak oil was a joke.
It seems like they're kind of getting there.
Like they're now only getting 65 or 70
% of the oil out of these shale
drills.
The Permian Basin is not pumping what it
used to.
Six and a half million barrels per day.
Nearly half the all-time high of 13
.5. And they are not drilling new wells.
They're just not.
Well, after everybody brings, OPEC brings their prices
down to nothing, down below 60.
Yeah.
Who cares?
Well, we do.
We do.
Keep talking in the mic because you're drifting.
I haven't changed anything.
I'm fine.
Check my volumes.
Check my levels.
Your levels are low.
Potted me up.
Your levels are low, man.
But of course, we have solutions to our
energy.
And that comes in the form of beautiful,
clean coal.
I call it beautiful, clean coal.
I tell my people never use the word
coal unless you put beautiful, clean before it.
Right, Doc?
So we call it beautiful, clean coal.
Beautiful, clean coal.
So today, thank you.
Today, we're taking historic action to help American
workers, miners, families and consumers.
We're ending Joe Biden's war on beautiful, clean
coal once and for all.
And it wasn't just Biden.
It was Obama and others.
But we're doing the exact opposite.
Actually, there were a couple of executive orders
he signed.
Just keeps on going.
There's a short rundown of them as he
was signing them.
We have four items prepared for your signature
this afternoon, sir.
The first of these executive orders is, it
may be one of the most significant executive
orders of your administration thus far.
This directs all departments and agencies of the
federal government to end all discriminatory policies against
the coal industry.
This ends the leasing moratorium that prevents new
coal projects on federal land.
And it's going to accelerate all permitting and
funding for new coal projects to allow the
coal industry to flourish under your leadership.
Sir, there are currently dozens of coal plants
in America that are in imminent danger of
being forced to close based on unscientific and
unrealistic policies enacted by the Biden administration.
What we're going to do is essentially impose
a moratorium on those policies taking effect to
protect coal plants that are currently operating, to
ensure that they're able to continue producing power
and continue providing jobs to Americans in the
coal industry.
Sir, you've made grid reliability and security a
key focus of this administration.
This executive order is going to promote grid
security and reliability by ensuring in part that
our grid policies are focused on secure and
effective energy production and energy transmission as opposed
to woke policies that discriminate against secure sources
of power like coal and other fossil fuels.
So the coal is going to help.
I mean, that's good, isn't it?
That should bring down energy prices in general.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, coal works and it's clean and it's
beautiful.
It's good.
It's beautiful.
Oh, it looks like a helicopter went down
in New York City in the river.
In the river.
Well, this didn't happen downtown.
Well, they're dead.
That's not good.
He had signed one other executive order for
the new ambassador of Israel and made quite
a funny remark.
So the Senate confirmed Governor Huckabee to be
your next ambassador to Israel earlier today.
That's his commission as ambassador.
And then we also have a transmittal letter
to the president of Israel requesting that he
accept Governor Huckabee's or excuse me, Ambassador Huckabee's
credentials.
He's going to be fantastic.
He's going to bring home the bacon, even
though bacon isn't too big in Israel.
I had to clear that up.
He caught himself.
He did.
Before the news media makes fun of me,
I might as well do it myself.
Yeah, that was good.
That was good.
Funny.
I like a funny president.
Did you hear about the, remember that nut
job who tried to assassinate the president at
Mar-a-Lago?
Yeah, that guy.
So, you know, we don't hear anything about
any of these.
I don't know, what is Pam Bondi doing?
Oh, we got $500 billion worth of drugs
and she's running around with cash.
But I'd still like to know more about
these assassination attempts and where does that really
come from?
And this is that crazy guy who also
showed up in Ukraine, helping out the Ukrainians.
And this is a new report.
Ryan Wesley Ruth, the man arrested for trying
to assassinate President Trump at his Mar-a
-Lago golf course in September, tried to buy
a rocket launcher from a Ukrainian contact with
Trump's plane being his intended target, according to
a new DOJ filing.
The court documents revealed Ruth sent a photo
of Trump's plane to a Ukrainian associate and
wrote in a message, Trump's plane, he gets
on and off daily.
In messages sent just one month before his
arrest at Mar-a-Lago, Ruth said, send
me an RPG rocket propelled grenade or stinger
and I will see what we can do.
Trump is not good for Ukraine.
Ruth allegedly asked the associate about the price
of the weapon and if it can be
shipped and said, I need equipment so that
Trump cannot get elected, according to prosecutors.
He also said of the rocket, those items
lost and destroyed daily and one missing would
not be noticed.
The DOJ says Ruth also discussed the assassination
attempt at a Trump rally in Pennsylvania, to
which Ruth allegedly said, I wish, through an
encrypted messaging app.
In the DOJ's filing, prosecutors say, attempting to
purchase a destructive device to blow up President
Trump's airplane lies squarely within the realm of
an attempt on his life.
And Ruth's statements about the purpose of the
purchase, that he needs equipment so that Trump
cannot get elected, drives home his intent.
I wonder if that was part of that.
Remember there was a couple of news reports
like, oh, ISIS or they have stingers, they're
going to shoot the plane out of the
sky.
Do you remember that during the campaigning process?
That doesn't come to mind, but I'm sure
it was, could have been.
Yeah.
This guy was a complete lunatic.
Yeah, I guess.
But I think the other stories, even the
other guy, that guy that looks like Elizabeth
Warren, the guy who tried to shoot Trump
in Butler, Pennsylvania, is the more interesting story.
We don't know anything about that group.
But the family, the eight cell phones or
all these cell phones he had.
I think Ruth had a bunch of cell
phones too.
I don't understand why we can't, what's going
on here that they can't tell us more.
No, we need to know basis.
No, instead we get important stories, John, very
important stories.
Important stories like this one.
Michelle Obama is putting to bed rumors that
she and the former president are divorcing.
Now is the time for me to start
asking myself these hard questions of who do
I truly want to be every day?
Speaking on actress Sophia Bush's podcast, Mrs. Obama,
now 61, spoke about her newfound independence.
The speculation about her marriage grew in January
when former President Obama showed up solo to
President Trump's inauguration and to Jimmy Carter's funeral.
We start actually finally like going, what am
I, what am I doing?
You know, who am I doing this for?
Yeah.
And if it doesn't fit into the sort
of stereotype of what people think we should
do, then it gets labeled as something negative
and horrible.
She was in Hawaii on vacation during Carter's
funeral, and she says she chose not to
attend the Trump inauguration.
She says not being tied to political life
and with her daughters now grown, she has
more time for herself.
They couldn't even fathom that I was making
a choice for myself, that they had to
assume that my husband and I are divorcing.
You know, this couldn't be a grown woman
just making a set of decisions for herself.
You know, I've been married three times.
I've gone through two divorces, and I can
tell you she's getting divorced.
This is obvious.
This is exactly what you say.
Well, you know, the funny thing in the
giveaway, the latest of this, of these events
is Obama showed up at some restaurant by
himself and Secret Service guys that he had
dinner with.
That was a while ago.
In other words, he went out to dinner
by himself.
Yeah, it's what you do.
You go sit there alone.
That's what you do.
By the way, did I tell you something?
I mean, I have eaten dinner by myself
when I've been on the road, and I
usually just go to the bar and have,
because I want to eat something or just
some restaurant.
Like I was in Atlanta.
I remember one time there was this famous
place, and I, you know, usually I can
get a PR woman or somebody to go
out.
Wait a minute.
You have a Rolodex, like, hey, PR lady,
take me out to dinner.
Yeah, I used to do that all the
time.
And I was extremely popular.
Yeah, I'll bet.
Because I would always go to these high
-end restaurants, and they would stick the client
with the bill.
And so I...
Wait, who's the client?
Who's the client?
Like a tech company?
It'd be some big company.
And so I knew all these people.
And I said, hey, what about dinner tonight?
I mean, Atlanta or whatever.
Yeah, definitely.
And it wasn't Fringal.
It was more like, you know, Florida Lee.
And so it was always high-end.
And so I was very popular.
I'll bet.
As a guy that, because I just know
how it went.
It went like the women would say to
the client, oh, jeez, this is an awfully
expensive dinner.
You know?
Yeah, but it's the tech grouch.
Hello?
It's like, yeah, I know.
But I didn't want to do it.
But he was so insisting.
And so what am I supposed to say?
I can't, you know, I tried to get
to a cheaper place, but he wouldn't do
it.
I can't just imagine the excuses.
I mean, anybody, you know, if you can
get a meal on somebody else's dime, that's
high-end.
Yeah.
You do it.
Did I tell you that I found a
Chinese restaurant in Fredericksburg?
I mean, man, there's about 10 jokes that
are just coming and going.
I can't.
Well, I mean, I always- So much
for my timing.
I'm driving by.
I'm like, there's a Panda Express in Fredericksburg.
Oh, Panda Express.
Not a Chinese restaurant.
But wait, that's what I thought.
It's not Panda Express.
It's a Chinese restaurant called Panda.
And Tina was out of town.
I'm like, I'm going to go get some
sweet and sour chicken.
I just feel like, and I could even
handle Panda Express.
I walk in, it's a real Chinese restaurant
with real Chinese in Fredericksburg.
And I'm like, and I'm sure they had
heard this before because I said, I thought
this was a Panda Express.
This is locally owned business, sir.
Oh, okay.
So I chill out, chill out.
It's not Panda.
Yeah, it's going to drive them nuts.
This is not Panda Express.
This is 14-year locally owned business.
Oh, wow.
And it was great.
Yeah, they gave me the Sapporo with a
chilled glass.
I mean, the whole thing, I was blown
away.
In Fredericksburg.
Thank you very much for coming, y'all.
You know, they're doing their little Texas thing.
It was great.
It was really cool.
Of course, I just was just eating alone.
Where was Tina?
Yes, no, she was in Florida visiting her
friend.
Yeah, no, I ate alone.
So you were just a sad sack eating
by yourself at a dinner?
At 5.30. Wow, even worse.
In a Chinese restaurant.
Yeah, you get that fortune cookie.
Like, I don't want to look at it.
This is no good.
I'm here with myself.
You'll be eating alone from work.
That's right.
Just a sad sack podcaster.
What do you do for work?
Podcaster.
Oh, okay, never mind.
Sorry, I asked.
I'm so sorry for you, podcaster.
So here's a clip, but this is the
Poland Scammer.
Oh, all right.
I once came across an author who used
to write a book and then using a
pen name offer reviews of his own book
to the book editors at the newspapers.
Well, one of the presidential candidates in Poland,
Karol Norowski, has done something rather similar.
He wrote a book under a pen name,
then appeared on TV as the author, so
he was wearing a disguise, and then went
on to praise his real self as the
genius inspiration behind the book, self-promotion on
steroids.
Well, the Polish journalist Bartosz Wilinski has been
telling me more.
Well, this is ridiculous.
He's a, well, right-ish historian.
He used to be a historian.
Now he has been appointed as a candidate
of a populist national party called Law and
Justice.
The abbreviation is BIS.
And they struggle to get into the second
round of presidential election.
He's being chased by the real far-right
politician, Sławomir Mensyn.
But the problem with this person is that
apparently he hasn't been vetted good enough.
Some, you know, shabby fragments of his past
has been revealed by the media.
His contacts to the neo-Nazis seen in
northern Poland, some of people he was, well,
he knew personally were active members of the
neo-Nazi groupings in Poland.
His contacts to the people dealing with organized
crimes were also revealed.
And this book is, you know, the cherry
at the top.
Hmm.
So I'm reminded and they're just deteriorating into
discussions about how Trump used to pull stunts
like this when he was younger.
Oh, yeah, he would, he would.
Remember that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He would call up.
Claiming to be a public relations person or
somebody else and condemn you.
I forgot what the backstory of somebody must
have.
We've had clips of it.
Yeah, I'm actually looking for it right now.
I remember that quite distinctly.
Here's another screwball story.
Since we're on these stories, let's go to
a professor arrested in Thailand.
Oh, that's never good.
An American academic living in Thailand is under
arrest on a charge of insulting the monarchy.
Thailand has a strict less majestic law.
A single offense can land the guilty party
with a prison sentence of up to 15
years.
Paul Chambers is a lecturer at Naresorn University
in Northern Thailand.
His lawyers say he was denied bail and
taken into custody on Tuesday.
They added in a statement that the charge
stems from a webinar invitation published on the
website of a Singapore think tank in October.
A blurb in the invitation refers to the
appointment of high ranking generals in the military
and the role of the monarchy.
Chambers' lawyers say he had no involvement in
the blurb on the website.
The U.S. State Department released a statement
saying it is closely monitoring the situation.
Less majestic prosecutions in Thailand have spiked in
recent years, with a rise of protests demanding
that the monarchy be reformed.
Yeah, you got to be careful with that
kind of stuff.
Yeah, this is a very screwy story.
But it's well known in Thailand.
You do not insult the royal family.
It's done.
It was that way when I was there
in 1990.
Just don't do it.
The story is actually screwier because everybody who
talks about it has a different why, what
was the insult.
And this one claims it was based on
some blurb in a website.
For a seminar in Singapore.
And then the other one, CBS, I believe
it was said that it was because he
went to the seminar and did the Q
&A.
And during the Q&A, he asked to
answer some question and he insulted the monarchy
by accident.
And so it's hard to say what happened
here.
But yeah, you don't say anything.
But why is there a monarchy in Thailand?
Well, it's ceremonial, John.
It's like all monarchies.
It's just ceremonial.
Yeah, if it's so ceremonial, then why do
people get so bent out of shape about
anything?
Well, I'm glad we live in America because
in America, you can say whatever you want.
And that's exactly what Senator Kennedy did regarding
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
This is a great.
It's too bad that that Hannity rolls the
bumper music underneath him.
But it was still pretty funny.
What do you think of the new leadership?
Jasmine AOC and Bernie?
I consider Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez to be the
leader of the Democratic Party.
She's entitled to her opinion.
I'm entitled to mine.
As I've said about her before, I think
she's the reason there are directions on a
shampoo bottle.
Our plan for dealing with her is called
Operation Let Her Speak.
Now, contrast that with the UK, who are
proposing a new law.
This is from GBN, the Great Britain News
Network.
And listen to this.
Welcome back to GBN Tonight with me, Martin
Dornley.
Now, the Labour-ran Rushmore Borough Council has
sparked outrage by proposing a sweeping injunction that
could see Christian street preachers in prison for
up to two years if the injunction is
breached.
Now, over claims of causing offense or distress.
Now, under the proposed terms, Christians will be
banned from praying for individuals, handing out religious
leaflets or Bibles by hand, and laying hands
on people in prayer, even with their permission.
Who's running the UK?
Satanists.
What is going on there?
What else could it be?
If you listen to that report closely, you
can't touch anybody if you're, you know, the
healer, you're supposed to lay hands on somebody
who's supposed to heal them.
Or you can't pray for anybody.
If you pray for somebody, this is like
a violation.
What?
You can't hand them a Bible.
Can't hand somebody a Bible?
Because that could hurt someone's feelings, I guess.
Yeah.
You know, Germany, I was really thinking about
this.
Germany, I mean, they are so clamped down,
so locked up, the German people.
And when you hear this, I only have
German clips, so it doesn't really work for
the show.
But they're talking about when this war comes.
They're so hyped up about war, and it's
all...
Gee, the Germans?
Well, yeah, that's my point.
That's a shocker.
That's my point.
World War I, who started it?
Who started it?
Germany was responsible for the thing getting out
of control, that's for sure.
World War II.
Well, that was obviously Germans.
And who was it always against?
The French.
What about the Hundred Years' War?
There's all kinds of...
It goes way back in time.
But why?
I mean, it's, you know, speaking of...
They like to fight.
But I don't think it's the people.
But there's not that many good German boxers.
I mean, what kind of fighting are they?
It's not the people.
The governments there are nuts.
It's like something in the water over there,
and the German government goes crazy.
And, you know, now they're borrowing all this
money to build their own war machine.
Well, it's just a matter of time.
Yes, you know what?
Yes, it's just a matter of time.
And I don't get it.
I don't understand how can that happen time
and time again?
And it's going to be against France again.
Yeah, obviously.
I don't know why, but it's always against
France.
Leave the French alone.
The French have had their issues too.
Well, sure.
But still, it's just like, I don't understand.
Let's see.
Mark Rutte was in Japan.
Here we go.
Yeah, all right.
Okay, Mark, sell us some more weapons.
First of all, let's acknowledge that the United
States having to take care not only of
the Euro-Atlantic area, but also of the
Indo-Pacific and, of course, the Middle East,
has to focus attention to more than one,
what is so-called theater at the same
time.
So it is totally...
Yeah, it's real theater, all right.
Logical that they try.
And this is happening now since 2010, basically.
And President Trump clearly stated that he wants
to continue with the policy and maybe even
speed it up.
Stop the clip.
I have to say, this is the only
time this has happened.
But it's gotten to the point where you
and him sound so close together.
You don't even recognize it.
I can't tell who's talking.
So you could be slipping stuff in.
I was.
These clips.
Yeah, I think you did.
I don't know.
I can't tell.
You've got this guy nailed.
You have the same vocal intonations.
It's very funny.
President Trump, he has already said that we
must go to the 5%.
Clearly stated that he wants to continue with
the policy and maybe even speed it up.
Speed it up.
More towards Asia.
That's totally logical.
And pivot towards Asia.
There we go.
And also that they want the European and
Canadian NATO allies to take more of a
burden, share the burden.
Share the burden.
In a more equal, in a fairer way.
By paying more.
It's only logical that where the US is
spending 3.4, 3.5% of GDP
on defense that they want for Europe to
equalize with what the US is spending.
Five.
And by the way, not because the US
is asking this.
But NATO as a whole, if it would
stick with the original 2% goal, we
cannot defend ourselves going forward in three to
five years against the Russians.
It is that simple.
What is this three to five years against
the Russians?
Are the Russians coming?
And luckily we are.
So the spending is ramping up.
And then to the question, it means that
we have, it is an end-to-end
policy.
We have to spend more on the European
Canadian side of NATO.
Yes.
But why are you in Japan, Mr. Rutte?
You are a member of NATO.
So why are you in Japan?
The US will over time pivot more towards
Asia.
This is happening already.
And that will continue.
This is only logical.
It's logical.
What is this?
It's logical.
It's only logical because, you know, we have
to get in the Pacific to screw around
with the Chinese.
And at the same time, the president made
it very clear in my meeting with him
now a month ago that it is important
for NATO to be also involved here.
What in the Pacific is NATO?
Is that the Pacific?
Through the IP4.
So that is the Republic of Korea, Australia,
New Zealand.
And of course...
They're on IPV4 there.
What's the IP4?
Indo-Pacific four agreement?
I have no idea.
IP4.
What is that?
By the way, the only thing you're doing
that you're not nailing is this stutter.
Yeah, it's hard.
He always says that a lot.
The only thing that is missed is logical.
Yeah, I like that.
It's logical.
You can work on that.
You'll know.
Here it is.
NATO is strengthening a dialogue and cooperation with
its partners in the Indo-Pacific region, Australia,
Japan and Republic of Korea and New Zealand.
This is a very complex security environment, you
see.
Our the biggest economy in IP4 and the
only G7 economy, not in NATO, and that
is Japan.
Japan.
And that's exactly why I'm here.
Yes, to get you in.
You get your money.
You get to spend the money.
And that's exactly why I'm here to discuss
defense industrial production, innovation, space.
Japan already is participating in many NATO activities.
This is not about extending Article 5 to
the Indo-Pacific.
No, not about that.
Just getting your money.
No, this is the collective defense clause.
That will not happen.
But to have a more integrated way of
working together, to really have this, to acknowledge
that these two areas, the Indo-Pacific and
the Euro-Atlantic, cannot be seen as separate.
This is exactly why I'm here.
Okay, he's shaking you down.
Where he goes, he goes to this long,
crazy talk.
And this is exactly why I'm here.
If you know exactly about it.
He's shaking him down, man.
He's there.
It's a shakedown.
This is what it sounds like.
It's amazing, this guy.
I mean, it would be, it's just, it's
so funny because he's such a twerp, a
nerd, a loser, a dork.
Everybody knows it.
Now he's like big man on campus.
Oh, Mark Rutte is coming.
For any Dutchman in the past 12 years
who's been in Holland at all, it's just
like, we can't believe this guy is the
top NATO dog.
It's hilarious.
It's crazy.
Well, it's good for the show since we
have a clone of him sitting there on
the other mic.
Yes.
The only thing is we need to ramp
it up to 5%.
That's it.
We have to equalize.
Not because the U.S. wants this, but
because it is only fair that we share
the burden.
Share the burden.
I'm getting there.
Meanwhile, back home at the ranch, that nut
job professor from Princeton University, Eddie Glaude, you
know the guy?
No.
When you hear him, you will.
He hasn't gotten the memo.
It's like, don't you know that we've already
moved way beyond this?
There's different things to talk about.
We've got tariffs.
We got trade.
We got all kinds of things.
But no, he's still, Trump is racist.
Have to grapple with it because it's the
snake.
It's the beast coiled up in the heart,
the bosom of the country, as Frederick Douglass
said.
And the fact that they are doubling down
on this shows you what kind of human
beings they actually are.
Say more.
Say more.
We chose a felon who is more interested
in loyalty, who's more interested in retribution, who's
more interested in grift than in democracy.
And we chose a felon because we didn't
want to elect a black woman.
So to read that- Yeah, this guy's
a lunatic.
That is to say we would rather destroy
the republic than for that to have happened.
And until we grapple with it, there's no
amount of protesting I could do.
There's no amount of resistance that could come
into play to actually force 78 million people
to grapple with what motivated them to put
themselves in this position.
This guy, does he have tenure?
He must have tenure.
I can't believe he's a professor.
He just seems like a dumb, a huge
dummy, racist.
Yeah, yes.
He's super racist.
He's unbelievable.
And then Nicole Wallace, say more.
Say more, please.
It's great.
Say more.
I don't know what to do with these
people.
All right, John, give us one more.
Give them some good.
Let's do some stuff on Trump's health.
This was from NPR.
They talk about his health because now we're
going to slowly move toward that in that
direction because, you know, we know that he's
nuts.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, we got to do that.
That makes sense.
At 78 years old, Trump is the oldest
president to start his second term.
He follows former President Biden, who visibly slowed
down while in office.
NPR senior White House correspondent Tamara Keith reports.
When he first ran for office in 2015,
then candidate Trump's doctor put out a statement
that described his lab results as astonishingly excellent
and concluded he would be the healthiest individual
ever elected to the presidency.
The doctor later said Trump had dictated it
to him.
Then came Dr. Ronny Jackson.
It's some people have, you know, just great
genes.
You know, I told the president that if
he had a healthier diet over the last
20 years, he might live to be 200
years old.
I don't know.
Trump is known for his love of McDonald's
and isn't a fan of exercise.
Jackson was Trump's first White House physician.
In January 2018, he held court in the
briefing room, answering questions at length about the
president's health, including his cognitive health.
I was not going to do a cognitive
exam.
I had no intention of doing one.
The reason that we did the cognitive assessment
is plain and simple because the president asked
me to do it.
Jackson said Trump scored a 30 out of
30.
Years later, in a Fox News interview, Trump
described the test.
Like, you'll go person, woman, man, camera, TV.
It's a very basic assessment that includes remembering
a short series of unrelated words.
Person, woman, man, camera, TV.
They say, that's amazing.
How did you do that?
I do it because I have a good
memory, because I'm cognitively there.
Since the end of his first term, Trump
has released very little health information, just a
2023 doctor's letter, without any data, saying he'd
lost weight and, quote, his cognitive exams were
exceptional.
You know, you're right.
This is the rotation, the Trump rotation.
You know what's coming next after the health
thing.
It's going to be another woman.
Like, he raped me.
Scandal.
He groped me.
You can just wait because they really want
to hurt Melania.
That's what they like the most, because they
know that gets to them.
I think you can just mark it.
They always do it.
This is just a setup for something.
They're going to work on it for the
future.
This is why this operation, the NPR and
PBS bullshit, they don't deserve any government money
whatsoever.
I'm reminded, by the way, I didn't get
to talk about this.
There's a second part to this.
But I'm reminded of the taking the money
away from the Voice of America.
So I went over to the website and
looked around.
And it's all anti-Republican, anti-Trump propaganda.
I mean, there was one piece on the
Voice of America website that was just nothing
more than condemning Trump's whole approach to terrorists.
I thought the offices were emptied out.
There's still people posting.
No, the offices are empty, but the website's
still there, still up.
And yeah, I couldn't get any recording.
That's why I didn't bring it into the
show, because I couldn't get any new recordings
because they stopped going out on the air
with anything.
But they still had it on the website.
You could tell what they were doing.
Yeah.
And yeah, it's anti-Republican propaganda operation.
It shouldn't be getting American money, but taxpayer
money, I should say.
All right, it's part two of this.
There's more to this?
Oh my, how much more can they do?
Last year, President Biden's doctors chose not to
give him a cognitive exam, something Press Secretary
Karine Jean-Pierre was forced to defend repeatedly.
The president himself, he said it today.
He said it multiple times.
And the doctor has said this.
Everything that he does day in and day
out as it relates to delivering for the
American people is a cognitive test.
Even after Biden dropped out of the race,
Trump leaned in on cognitive testing as a
campaign issue.
We should have cognitive tests for anybody that
runs for president and vice president.
Trump has been known to jumble words and
during the campaign wobbled like he might fall
when getting into a garbage truck.
And he is acutely aware that some have
raised questions about his fitness.
Take this from a rally in October.
I'll be a little thing and I'll say
something a little bit like, I'll say, they'll
say he's cognitively impaired.
No, I'll let you know what I will
be.
I will be someday.
We all will be someday, but I'll be
the first to let you know.
SJ Olshansky is a professor of public health
at the University of Illinois at Chicago, who
has studied the health of presidents.
He says there are many armchair neurologists, but
a president's doctor is the only one who
truly has all the necessary context.
But keep in mind, medical records are private.
Presidents do not have to reveal their medical
records.
And in fact, there is a long history
of presidents concealing their health challenges.
Jeff Cullman was a physician in the Clinton,
Bush and Obama White Houses.
He points to what happened when President Woodrow
Wilson had a stroke.
His second wife and his physician, a young
Navy doctor, they covered up for him for
several months and they were not truthful with
the American people.
Cullman says there's no requirement for a presidential
physical, but the public and media expect them
now.
To me, the purpose of the physical for
the president is to give him honest feedback
about here's how your heart's doing, here's how
your brain function's doing.
Whether that honest feedback is also shared with
the public is another question entirely.
Yeah, the rotation's in play.
Where is our rotation?
We should do the Trump rotation.
It's online somewhere.
No, we have it.
We have the...
Here we go.
Trump rotation.
Here it is.
I have my list and you might want
to see if there's anything I left out.
This is the Trump rotation and there's two
categories.
There's the regular and then there's the criminal.
But here we go.
Ready?
Yeah.
Liar, incompetent, unhinged, illegitimate president, white supremacist, racist,
bully, immature, Russian agent, narcissist, mean, long ties,
insane, tweets too much, small hands, small penis,
big red butt, criminal, mean, racist, immature, thin
skin, runs the mob, has no money, unstable,
fatter than 239 pounds, bankrupt, 25th amendment should
be instituted, he hates women, misogynist, holds grudges
forever, plays golf a lot, obstruction of justice,
money laundering, and clown.
John.
There we go.
No wonder we're making America white again.
There you go.
That's the Trump rotation.
The one clip I've been looking at all
show and I've been waiting for you to
play it, and that could be our last
one, is the vacuum phone NPR that just
looks so enticing to me.
Yeah, this was a good clip.
This would have been a good follow-up
for my phone material, but this was a
new idea.
This also refers back to Tucker Carlson's vapidity,
vapidness of the CEO class.
And this is just an eye-roller of
a clip about what Samsung thinks might sell
here.
Samsung has a new vacuum with an unexpected
feature.
It can alert you to incoming calls and
texts.
The company's new washer and dryer can also
make phone calls.
The appliances are part of a new AI
product line, and Samsung isn't alone.
LG, GE, and others are also pushing AI
in their home devices.
But do consumers want AI in a vacuum
cleaner?
Online reviews have been skeptical, suggesting the features
aren't worth the premium price, and only 15
% of households own a smart, large appliance.
Some experts say companies are just throwing out
ideas to see what works.
That is so true.
We went looking for a new...
Tina's always hated this refrigerator that came with
the house, and we went looking for one
at Costco.
It's almost impossible to buy a refrigerator that
isn't a smart fridge, that doesn't have a
screen, that isn't connected to some system, and
that gives you recipes and great tips.
I mean, you're right, they're just throwing ideas
at the wall.
More stuff we don't need.
I want stuff that works.
There you go.
We do have a number of producers to
thank, $50 and above.
We love the producers who support us monetarily.
It is time, talent, and treasure for our
value for value model.
Also, John's very valued tip of the day
is coming up, and to show mixes, and
we have some meetup reports, including the meetup
report from your birthday extravaganza.
So, take it away, John.
Yeah, let's start with Beth.
Okay.
Beth Elliott, she's at the top of the
list.
Corryton, Tennessee, 13369.
Stephan, uh, Trockels, Trockels in Sust?
Sust.
Sust.
Sust is not...
13324.
Sust is not Deutschland.
Sust is the Netherlands.
No, it says Deutschland here.
That doesn't seem right.
Trockels sounds Dutch, or Dutch, and it sounds
Deutsch.
Just saying.
Well, Christopher, whatever.
There could be a...
I mean, look how many Albanies there are
in the United States.
Christopher Ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina, 10535.
Scott Merrill in Calabasas, California, 9176.
Uh, Patrick Stasiak in Saginaw, Michigan, 8810.
It's actually Patrick Stasiak, Stasiak.
Okay.
Uh, and this is 8810.
This is double nipples on the dime, brother.
Okay.
Well, it's better than...
Okay.
Kevin McLaughlin's was just a straight 8008 boobs
donation.
He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America,
lover of boobs.
Eric Mintz in Allegan, Allegian.
Allegan or Allegian, one of the two, 8008,
Michigan.
Thank you for your courage and all your
hard work.
Four more years.
Yes.
Black Knight Laurie, L-A-U-R-I,
in Helsinki, Florida, Florida.
Helsinki, Finland, 76...
We haven't heard from him in a long
time.
No, 7643.
He is a Black Knight.
Black Knight from Helsinki.
That's right.
Interesting.
Welcome back.
Welcome back, Black Knight.
John Speer, Yardley, Pennsylvania, 7643.
No longer a douchebag.
Give him a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
He shares the April 5th birthday.
Good for him.
Uh, Johnny Shogun in South Golden Beach, Australia.
Another happy birthday called 7643.
Syrant, Syrant, Syrant in Arlington, Washington, 7643.
There's another happy birthday fellow, Boomer.
We need a Boomer donation, so see how
many Boomers support the show.
Yeah.
Maybe 6446 to represent Born Before 64, but
not before 46.
Yes.
I'm liking that one.
I'm sure Adam would argue the date range.
No, I would not because I was born
in 64, so I'm all in on this
date range.
64 is the cutoff.
But it says Born Before 64.
Yeah.
I like 6446.
I think that's great.
I think the Boomer donation is on.
Is Boomer donation is go?
I'm putting it in the newsletter.
It's go.
Boomers are go.
It's a go.
Approved.
Stephen Hutto in St. Petersburg, Florida, 75.
These are all the happy birthday donations that
are still following.
You're still going.
Mark Bijleveld, I don't know.
What do you think?
Mark Blijefeld.
Blijefeld.
Oh, yes.
It's a Dutch name.
It's Dutch.
Dutch.
And he's in Hadham, Connecticut.
A former paper boy.
Boomer.
Okay, Boomer.
You got to be a Boomer if you're
a paper boy.
You're a Boomer.
Yeah, I'd say.
In Maple Grove, Minnesota.
He's got a happy birthday.
I'm just going to read the names and
locations here.
Stephen Mann in Plymouth, Michigan.
Microchip Nick in East Hampton.
You got to read this one.
Happy birthday, John.
You Zionist shell.
Geron Snelder.
There's another Dutch one.
Jeroen Snelders.
Jeroen.
Jeroen Snelders in Ennis, Texas.
Charles Schultz in, not the.
Not the Charles Schultz, yeah.
Ennis in Alberta, U.S. Alberta.
That's not U.S. What?
It says U.S. Yeah, that's like Seuss
is in D.E. Sure.
Never trust a spreadsheet.
7373 from W.J. 4K.
Seventy-threes.
Sir Vant.
Sir Vant.
You missed Sir Tommy Hawk.
And Sir Tommy Hawk.
Sir Tommy Hawk's in Iowa City, Iowa.
Seventy-three.
Now we have random donations back to them.
Sir Vant in Arlington, Washington.
And look at his number.
6446.
Boomer donation.
It's on.
It hasn't even been established yet, and yet
we have two on today's show.
Boomer donation is go.
Wow, that's another random number thing happening to
us.
Teresa Andrews in Camarillo, California.
And this is 6161, which is an Aunt
Gigi donation.
Here we go.
6161 Aunt Gigi donation is also go.
I got to start writing these down.
Grayson Insurance in Aurora, Colorado.
606.
Jason Shepard in Trinidad, Colorado.
6006.
That's interesting again.
Jeff Gibbs in Pangilly, Minnesota.
Pangilly.
Probably Pangilly.
Happy birthday to Rick Gibbs from your brother.
Brittany Miller in Trinidad, Colorado.
We just had Trinidad.
Another one.
5272.
Stephen Still in Dequan, Illinois.
And this is a prayer for Raleigh Hawk
of Southern Illinois.
Sir Raleigh.
Uh-oh.
We have to give him an emergency.
Emergency.
Let me read this.
His large brain tumor was removed, but he
is back in the hospital on a ventilator
in ICU at Barnes due to complications.
Please, everyone pray for our brother Raleigh Lineman
of the Net.
Yes, of course you will.
And we'll hit you with an emergency F
-cancel.
You've got harm luck.
Prayer's up for you.
Josiah Thomas in Ankeny, Iowa.
51.
Bad idea supply.
Go to their website.
Bad idea supply for your bad ideas.
They have all the best burning gear you
can buy.
50.
Now, these are $50 donors.
Just name and location.
Starting with Ray Howard in Kremlin, Colorado.
Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington.
Edward Mazurek in Memphis, Tennessee.
Jacob Rottramel in Decatur, Illinois.
Could be Jacob.
William Kidwell in Dover, Delaware.
Rene Knigge in Ultrest.
Knigge.
Knigge.
Rene Knigge.
Knigge.
Roderick Brown in Mermaid.
Petaluma?
What is P-E?
What state is P-E?
Well, it's in the, it's in Canada.
Oh, it's in Canada.
What province is P-E?
I don't know what province P-E is.
Well, she's there.
She's in Canada.
Or he's in Canada.
Roderick is in Mermaid.
William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas.
Got that one.
Gerald Wazoo.
He's up in Westminster, Colorado.
Hold on, let me read this.
He's got a long note.
This is not Gerald, but Grand Wazoo.
He says, in the morning...
I said Gerald.
Yes, you did.
Grand Wazoo.
In the morning, John, I just want to
thank you for mentioning the light phone.
There it is on episode 1753.
My son is 12 and biking to and
from school three and a half miles away.
No big deal.
But in today's world, I'd like a more
reliable communication source with him other than the
walkie-talkies, which have gotten us this far.
Three and a half miles is quite a
distance.
We're all on the same page.
The light phone seems to be perfect.
Offering all he needs and eliminating everything I
despise.
You guys really are an invaluable resource.
No exit strategy for you.
Much love.
Grand Wazoo.
That's right.
The light phone three.
That's the one you want.
Yep.
Stephen Schumach in Zinnia, Ohio.
Dame.
Code Red.
Code Red in Huntsville, Arkansas.
David Asari in West Hollywood, California.
And last on our list is good old
Jason.
Sir Jason Deluzio in Miami Beach, Florida.
I want to thank these people for making
show 1754 the good show that it became.
Indeed.
And we appreciate everybody who came in under
$50.
We never read names there for reasons of
anonymity.
People still like that.
And also, we have those recurring donations.
Go to noagendadonations.com.
You can fill out.
I like that these numbers, the numerology is
coming back with the Boomer donation.
And that was the other one.
The 6161.
What was that?
Hold on a second.
What was it?
61.
Oh, on Gigi.
We used to do a lot more of
this.
So bring back those numerology donations.
We love them.
We love trying to figure them out.
And again, the sustaining donations, any amount, any
frequency.
It's all up to you.
It is value for value.
Go to noagendadonations.com.
I'm so much happier.
John Speer celebrated on April 5th.
Darth Penguin.
Happy birthday, he says, to totally not serial
killer Kate.
Dame Astrid, as we heard earlier.
Happy birthday to Sir Mark Jeff Gibbs.
Happy birthday to his brother, Rick Gibbs.
And John Bye, as in B-Y-E,
Bye Bye, is 56 today.
Happy birthday to all of you from the
best podcast in the universe.
So we have no knights, no dames, no
title changes.
But we do have one Commodore.
We are very proud to welcome our brand
new Commodore.
Do we say Commodore Center Light?
Congratulations.
Commodore arriving.
Go to noagenderings.com, brand new Commodore.
And let us know what name you want
on your certificate.
It is a beautiful piece.
It's suitable for hanging.
It is a beautiful title that you will
like to have.
And give us an address where to send
it to.
Commodoreship.
And we thank you for your courage.
Now let's take a look at those meetups.
All right, two full-on meetup reports.
The first one is from the John C.
Dvorak birthday bash extravaganza.
Oh, yeah.
They went all crazy and started editing it.
So here is the report for you.
This is Sir Rick Halstead and Crazy Steve
II.
We're here at John's B-Day birthday extravaganza.
And we're about to sing him happy birthday.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday, dear John.
What'd you wish for, John?
That you wouldn't have sung this song.
Wow, that sounds like a rowdy bunch over
there at the birthday bash.
Almost as rowdy as the kids in New
York City.
What a hootenanny they have.
In the morning, winter has come and gone,
and spring has sprung.
This is Dan Franco, host of the Manhattan
No Agenda Meetup at the Perfect Pint West.
Thursday, April 3rd, 2025.
There are eight producers here, three of which
are sirs.
Again, thank you all for attending the meetup.
Hey, this is Sir Spoonmaker from the Manhattan
Meetup.
Connection is protection.
Train's good, plane's bad.
Woohoo!
In the morning, here from New York City.
Sir Chancey.
Hey, in the morning, it's Sir Michael Anthony,
also known as the mayor.
You know, by the way, y'all heard,
I'm off the hook.
But y'all knew that already.
Hey, it's MK Ultramark.
I'm enjoying the meetup tonight with all the
boys.
We're having a good time.
And shout out to all the slaves and
the trolls out there.
Love you, Adam and John C.
Hello, this is Dan Pagam.
My pronouns are I-T-M.
I'm in the heart of New York City
with beautiful meetup folks, and there may or
may not be DMT here.
Hey, hear the Caribbean guy telling everybody to
do the thing that enlightens them into a
greater state of being.
DMT.
This is Jen, and I'm at the meetup
at the perfect height in New York City,
having a great time with the No Agenda
folks.
My name's Connor from Wicklow, Ireland, and I'm
serving the No Agenda show, and they're being
great tippers tonight in Wharton.
Ah, love it.
You got your server in there, clearly operating
illegally in the country, but that's okay.
And it sounds like there were some drugs
at that particular meetup.
We do not necessarily condone that here at
the No Agenda show, but connection is protection.
That's true.
You get it whenever you go to a
No Agenda meetup, and you can go to
the Outer Swamp meetup right now, actually, at
the Dogfish Head Ale House in Gaithersburg, Maryland.
I think that's a new location, so hopefully
everybody got notified in time.
Tomorrow, the Friday, Central Wisconsin Wausau meetup, four
o'clock at Sconus in Schofield, Wisconsin.
Hi-Fi Intel meetup at Fassler Hall, six
o'clock at Fassler Hall in Oklahoma City,
Oklahoma, also on Friday.
On Saturday, the Colorado Springs No Mutton Just
Meetup at noon at Antelope Ridge Meadery in
Colorado Springs.
We have the South Jersey Easter Gathering at
one o'clock at Miller's Ale House, also
on Saturday, Mount Laurel Township, New Jersey.
The Treasure Valley Boise Meetup, three o'clock,
Old State Saloon in Eagle, Idaho.
And again on Saturday, it's a busy day,
Fort Wayne Club 33 NPR Easter Egg Extravaganza
at 3.33 p.m., Hall's Tavern and
Coventry in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
We have the 14th Northwest Houston No Agenda
Meetup, seven o'clock at Wakefield Crow Bar
in Houston, Texas.
Your Sir Economic Hitman organizing that for you.
And on the next show day, a couple
of meetups.
We have I Must Be High, number 16
at Granite Brewery in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
And the Indy No Agenda Rainstick Stirred Not
Shaken Meetup, three o'clock at Blind Owl
Brewery.
That's always 100 people there at Indianapolis, Indiana.
That's Mark and Maria of the Greenwood who
are hosting that.
And finally, the TooManyEggs.com Keen New Hampshire
Meetup.
It's their 11th gathering, 3.33 at Margarita's
Mexican Restaurant in Keen, New Hampshire.
Just a sampling of the meetups that are
taking place all around Gitmo Nation.
They are taking place all around the world.
You can go to noagendameetups.com.
You can list your meetup there.
You can find them.
You can find them by calendar.
You can find them by name.
Just look at the list.
It's a long one.
And as always, if you can't find one
near you, start one yourself.
It's easy.
noagendameetups.com.
It's always like a party.
That's what's so great about it.
It's always like a party.
It's always like a party.
There's going to be another Fredericksburg meetup, I
think, in May.
I'm excited.
Another one hanging out here at the 1776.
Where Kelsen and Steve wants to bring one
there.
Well, there's Matt Long and his beautiful wife,
Gail.
They're going to do it with Jenny over
there at 1776.
Again, all the J6ers.
So maybe make it, yeah.
All the J6ers hang out there.
I got nothing to do with it.
Okay, well, here we go.
This is the moment that we all dread.
Here we go.
Here's where you get depressed.
I do.
I get very depressed.
More of the AI.
Yeah, more of your AI nonsense.
I have two ISOs.
They're real ISOs, not fake like John's.
Here's the first one.
I have a real one.
Here's my first one.
I just have one word for this.
Perfect.
Hmm?
It wasn't so echoey.
Well, how about this one then?
Yo, yo, yo, what up?
Come on, come on.
Yo, yo, yo, what up?
That's not bad.
It's not great, but it's not bad.
Who sent you that?
I don't know.
Yeah, of course someone sent it to me.
Yo, yo, yo, what up?
Very white.
Yo, yo, yo, what up?
But we'll take it.
Very white.
We'll take it.
All right, what you got?
Okay, we got, here's the real one.
This is prophecy.
The prophecy has been completed.
Somebody sent that in.
Yeah, yeah, I can tell.
Poor woman.
Yeah.
Uh, okay, we can do, uh, can I
do better?
You can't do better than that if you
tried.
I recognize that guy.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's Caleb.
Yeah, that's right.
It's Caleb from 11 lives.
Yes.
And then your final one.
So good.
That show was so good.
I don't know, man.
Yo, yo, yo, what up?
I think my- Use it.
Use yo, yo, yo.
It's better.
Thank you very much.
And now it's time for the moment you've
all been waiting for.
John C.
DuBorac's tip of the day.
Well, you had your tip of the day
for today.
Uh, I did?
Oh, brother, you teased it last show.
Uh, I forgot what it was.
Wow, okay.
You don't have a tip?
No, I do have a tip.
Oh, thank goodness.
I'm sorry.
I completely spaced on that.
That's my, my mistake.
My mistake.
Okay.
Now this was suggested by one of the
producers and I said, yeah, you know, the
problem was here's the tip and everyone should
have one or two of these.
And I did have some thoughts about it.
And this is the window breaking tool that
you should have in your car.
That's got a diamond tip.
It's usually called an emergency seat belt cutter
and window hammer.
Everybody's got a blade on it because what
happens, you get into a wreck, especially in
one of these electric cars and the power
goes out.
You can't get out of the seat belt.
You cut the seat belt.
Then you take the little hammer and you
tap.
Doesn't take much because it's got a diamond
tip or it's carbide, whatever tip it has.
You snap it against a window, shatters, you
can get out of there.
Uh, as opposed to not being able to
roll it down if it's electric.
So the, the, the producer said, well, you
know, I, what's the best of these?
That's the question.
This is why it's a tip of the
day.
We want the absolute best.
Well, I don't, you can't determine the absolute
best without busting your car window.
So are going to a junkyard and saying,
can I test a bunch of these things
on your cars?
You'll see which one breaks the window best.
Now I would suggest simply put going to
Amazon and getting the $9.95. Do you
get two of them?
Uh, and it's a two pack and it's
got 27,000 reviews that average two, four
and a half stars.
And I think that's probably going to work.
The little ones that got a motor in
them.
The ones that pop the thing, a motor,
a motor.
Got a little thing.
It's a spring loaded, but it supposedly breaks
the window.
No, you want a hammer.
Yeah.
You want a hammer so you can bash
it.
And then you can look at these.
There's a bunch of different ones and it
has to have a cutter.
Now here's what I was.
Here's the real issue.
That's not discussed.
And it's probably really the more important part
of the tip.
So you're in the car.
You got the thing.
Usually you keep it in the little side
pocket of the, of the driver's seat and
you reach in there and you can grab
it and you can cut the seatbelt and
bang the window.
What happens if you're in a rollover?
The thing comes out of the side pocket,
bounces around the car.
You're stuck with the seatbelt on you.
It's out of reach.
Oh no.
What do you do?
What do you do?
Oh, well, you should have it on a,
around your neck on a string.
Whenever you look like an idiot.
Whenever you drive.
You have to, what you have to do
is you have to secure it somehow.
You either glue it or it should be
secured or put a string around it and
tie it to something.
Yeah.
So, so it doesn't get too far away.
If you have, you have a horrible situation
and even just a collision, it could jar
it loose and move it into the back
seat.
Like a leg holster, like a calf holster
and always have it in there when you're
driving.
Just in case.
But this is a situation that people should
think about.
A lanyard.
How about a lanyard?
Well, I'm just saying anything, but just think
about what happens.
How about don't drive an electric vehicle?
You got more chances.
Well, no, even in a regular car, you
drive into the lake.
I mean, there's a million, you don't want
to use these things.
You just have to, you should have them
though, just in case, because you don't want
to get stuck in the car.
But you have to consider the fact that
it'll get jostled and moved around in the
vehicle if the car flips or rolls over,
does anything.
And so you'd have to secure it somehow.
So just think about that.
But everyone should have one of these things.
Stop the hammering!
That's right, everybody.
Everyone needs one.
Tipoftheday.net, noagendafund.com for John's Tip of
the Day.
And sometimes, Adam, created by Dana Brunetti.
Wow, your tips are great.
Kind of morbid, but they're great.
Well, that one is.
Yeah, kind of morbid.
But it's a safety tip.
I understand it's a safety tip, but still,
it's like morbid, man.
It's like death, death, death, death.
There's no death if you have it.
No, not if you have it on a
lanyard.
Coming up, we got end-of-show mixes
from Leo LaPuke, Neil Jones, and Tom Starkweather.
A lot of money involved.
Up next on the No Agenda stream, TrollRoom
.io and your modern podcast app, we have
Our Big Dumb Mouth.
Oh, it's good.
They're back.
They were on some kind of hiatus.
People are a little concerned.
I'm glad they're back on the stream.
Good to see you guys.
Good for you, kids.
And we will return on Sunday with more
of your media deconstruction.
I wonder what there will be to talk
about.
I'm sure there's something we can pull apart
for you.
In the meantime, don't worry.
It's just like COVID.
It's all going to be OK.
You're not going to die.
But your iPhone, yeah, you might have to
trade that one in.
Coming to you from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg in the
morning, everybody, I'm Adam Currie.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain,
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
We return on Sunday.
Please remember us at noagendadonations.com.
Until then, adios, mofos, a hui hui, and
such.
Or whatever the fuck it's called to get
tested and get treated.
Poor, whatever the track.
They don't fucking have that money.
The fuck?
Look at it.
It's party time.
I want my check.
The risk is to the money.
And not to the person.
To the money.
The risk is to the money.
Not to the person.
To the money.
And the risk is not to the person.
The risk is to the money.
I don't think this entire line of questioning
is meant to be real questions, and so
I will not reply.
How can you spoil a system that is
already broken?
I don't know why Speaker Pelosi and everybody
else would be saying, oh, here, we're sorry,
we don't want to upset you, we'll give
you more money.
I did great.
I made a lot of money.
Any collusion?
You know, the Russia collusion, delusion, absolutely no
collusion between Trump and the Russia.
I reserve the right to my time.
It is not right.
That was not a question.
You have to reprogram the money.
The media at this point is parsing words
in a way that the average Virginians aren't.
No agenda in the morning.
The best podcast in the universe.
Adios, mofo.
Yo, yo, yo, what up?