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Come on, kids, let's do a show.
Adam Curry, John C.
DeVorah.
It's Thursday, May 22nd, 2025.
This is your award-winning give-on-Asian
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And broadcast live from the heart of the
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6 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're waiting
for an ambush.
I'm John C.
DeVorah.
This is Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
It's always so disappointing when a producer sends
us the same clip, and then I'm like,
oh, John didn't reply to it, or maybe
he didn't see it.
I got it, I got it, I got
it.
It's my clip, I got it.
And then you send bonus clips.
You're talking about the ambush, John.
Of course I'm talking about the ambush.
It's beautiful.
Whoever made that.
We're going to talk about this.
What we're going to talk about is the
meeting between Trump and the Prime Minister of
South Africa.
And the media is jumping all over Trump.
I have the CBS clips, I think, are
worse.
It's as if there is, whatever the president,
our president of our United States does is
no good, and everybody else is better.
So I don't know what the media wonders
why it keeps losing credibility.
It doesn't even support the country that it's
in.
It hates America.
I just love that we have actual African
news that people are interested in.
We've been pushing for this for years.
We have, it's true.
Okay, it's South Africa, all right.
It's not the jungle, but you know, talking
about this white, you know, whether it's a
genocide or not, but the white, the movement
against the white farmers.
And I have clips here that are six
years old.
Oh, yeah.
Report done by TRT, the Turkish service.
This is not new.
Let me kick this off with the BBC
report, and then you can take it from
there.
Why has this issue of alleged violence against
the Afrikaner community in South Africa become such
a central theme for President Trump?
He was talking about this in his first
term and looking at the possibility of giving
refugee status to Afrikaners.
But it's only now that we're seeing that
he's really going for it.
And I don't think it's a coincidence that
his close friend and close ally, Elon Musk,
was in the Oval Office.
Elon Musk is born in South Africa.
He has pushed these unsubstantiated claims of a
white genocide.
And Donald Trump, I think, will have been
massively influenced by him.
Oh, it's all because of Elon.
That's why.
The Trump is dumb.
He doesn't look at anything himself.
This is a self-contradictory report, which is
something you can expect.
She says he tried to do this in
the first term.
Elon wasn't around.
No, it's great.
So if Elon wasn't around during the first
term, what makes it any different?
Nothing.
Nothing.
They're beside themselves.
I'll do one more.
This is CNN.
Do as many as you want.
There's a lot of good.
There's a lot of good material here that
people need to hear.
Well, this this kind of kicks off the
the supercut.
This is Anderson Cooper.
The Pooper 360 with Cornell Brooks.
Professor Brooks, I mean, what message?
I'm sorry, Professor Brooks.
Professor Brooks, I mean, what message do you
think it sends to America and the world
when the white U.S. president lectures a
black South African president?
White, white, black, black, white, white.
And on television about a genocide of which
which is not happening.
It's not happening.
Not happening.
I said so.
It sends a message that the president is
continuing to rewrite history and in so doing
also dramatically and disastrously impact the president.
So in other words, what we had in
the White House today was a cinematic ambush,
if you will.
And in a cinema, did he say cinematic
ambush that's a show title.
What we had in the White House today
was a cinematic ambush, if you will.
And in anything but diplomatic attack.
And this is reminiscent, if you will, of
one hundred and ten years ago when President
Woodrow Wilson showed a film called The Birth
of a Nation, which was a film that
glorified the Klan.
Oh, yeah.
The birth of the nation about Africa.
No, this is it's synonymous.
You see, because President Trump is racist.
And President Woodrow Wilson showed a film called
The Birth of a Nation, which was a
film that glorified the Klan.
So here we have this film today, which
is an attempt to rewrite history and adversely
impact the president.
And so the country should be horrified because
President Trump is literally using both racism, anti
-black racism and xenophobia and anti-immigrant, anti
-refugee hate to not only divide the country,
but divide the globe.
And what has been made bad and terrible
in this country.
He's globalizing and exporting in ways that are
detrimental to the interests of the United States.
Wow.
That's that's a professor right there.
And he introduced the term.
It was my first my first taste of
the ambush that we play the supercut.
Yeah, there's a supercut floating around of all
these different, mostly on CNN and MSNBC, of
course, but every other networks, too, including ABC.
BBC as well.
I didn't clip it, but I saw BBC
do it.
Yep.
It's worldwide, baby.
The dramatic scene in the Oval Office today,
the tense confrontation, President Trump ambushing the president
of South Africa.
Next, another Oval Office meltdown.
President Trump's ambushing the president of South Africa.
President Trump is being accused of conducting something
of a diplomatic ambush of South Africa's president
in the Oval Office.
To be with you, I'm Katie Turek.
President Trump orchestrated another Oval Office ambush today.
Today, Donald Trump meeting with the president of
South Africa and attempting to ambush and humiliate
that leader.
Zelensky territory, where essentially he was a bit
ambushed inside the Oval Office.
Felt like an ambush in there.
Kind of like the President Zelensky meeting in
the Oval Office.
This was an ambush.
It was orchestrated.
Errol Ramaphosa brought his best diplomatic self to
this meeting, but nothing could have prepared him
for this multimedia ambush.
What started as, to some degree, an ambush.
Well, Katie, I mean, it was an ambush.
Ambush.
Ambush.
Ambush.
Ambush.
Ambushing.
Ambushed inside the Oval Office.
It was an ambush, I tell you.
An ambush.
My goodness.
I wish I had this one when I
was talking to the kids about propaganda.
It would have been a good one, a
good one.
Ambush.
Why don't you roll out your CBS clips
that you got?
I got a couple of CBS clips here.
This is the, I did the whole, they
did a whole first of the show.
Well, of course.
But I just only have three short clips
from the beginning just to emphasize some of
the use of loaded terms.
Very unjournalistic.
Professionally, I think, very loaded wordage put out
in such a way that is slanted, anti
-Trump, which seems to me to be a
very sketchy thing to do right now since
CBS is still under duress over the lawsuit,
over a 60 minute lawsuit, which is hurting
their, you know, they're getting bought out.
But they don't care.
Let's hear what we got to say here.
For more than a century, the Oval Office
has been the scene of dignified diplomatic exchanges.
But what point did you not know President
Trump was in the Oval Office?
And things have changed between the president of
the United States and other world leaders.
But President Trump has turned the Oval into
a ring for sparring with including the president
of Ukraine, the prime minister of Canada, and
now the president of South Africa.
Mr. Trump sprung a video on an unsuspecting
Cyril Mamiposa designed to back Mr. Trump's unsubstantiated,
unsubstantiated, unsubstantiated claims that there's a genocide underway
in South Africa targeting white farmers.
In recent days, the president has welcomed white
refugees from South Africa to the United States
just weeks after signing an executive order suspending
America's refugee admission program.
Deborah Pata is in South Africa and is
South African.
We will hear from her in a moment.
But we begin with Weijia Zhang at the
White House.
Weijia.
Good evening.
For months, President Trump has accused South Africa
of condoning genocide, even cutting off all U
.S. assistance to the country back in March.
Today, the South African president was hoping to
reset the relationship.
But Trump had a different plan.
Yeah, he was ready for an ambush.
He was hiding out, ready to go, ready
to do it.
Ready, ready, ready, ready.
He's ready.
He don't care because he's making a mockery
of he's turning the oval into a ring.
Yes.
Nobody.
These networks do not see any humor in
any of this, of course.
I love the whole turn the lights down.
Yeah.
I'm going to play you a video.
How old is that video, actually?
Well, the one that he showed a bunch
of videos and they don't really discuss the
videos, they just kind of say they were
bull crap.
Oh, yeah.
But they they don't play any of the
of Malema, which is the main guy we're
talking about, the guy.
Yeah.
No, no.
He's an EFF guy.
Oh, OK.
He's the economic freedom fighters.
He is the third most popular or fourth,
depending on what numbers you look at.
Most popular party in the in the country.
Julius Julius, I think.
Julius, not to be confused with Electronic Frontier
Foundation.
But it could easily be easily.
But they this guy is a genocidal maniac.
And I have clips from him from various
years.
And he was singing this kill the boar,
kill the farmer, kill the boar, kill the
farmer, which is one of the videos they
showed.
And CBS didn't even mention or play any
of that, of course, because it would take
away from the slant that they have.
And we'll have some more evidence of that
in the next clip.
Ramaphosa acknowledged a law that allows his government
to expropriate land for public use with compensation.
But he insisted white farmers are not being
targeted.
They do allow them to take.
Nobody can take the land.
They kill the white farmer.
And when they kill the white farmer, nothing
happens to them.
No, there is quite nothing happens.
There is criminality in our country.
So he says this guy, the prime minister,
says there's a lot of criminality, but it's
not like directed necessarily just at whites.
There was something that she said.
I tried to make some comment on this
way.
Cut it.
Play play the next clip.
The meeting started with a friendly jab from
President Trump.
He is a man who is certainly in
some circles, really respected other circles, a little
bit less respected.
But when South African President Ciro Ramaphosa denied
Trump's accusations, his administration is allowing genocide.
Trump was prepared to push back.
Turn the lights down and just put this
on.
It's right behind you.
On a television brought into the Oval Office
for this very moment, the president showed videos
peddling, peddling, peddling, unsubstantiated, unsubstantiated, unsubstantiated
claims of genocide against white South African farmers.
Those people, in many cases, are being executed.
They're being executed.
Yeah, I have a boots on the ground.
I don't know if you want it yet
or if you want to play some of
your other clips first.
Well, we can go with boots.
I have a boots on the ground, too.
Which one's yours from J.B. Mine's from
MD.
You play.
Read yours.
Just let me remind everybody.
Unlike other podcasts, where there's a bunch of
dudes sitting around with the headphones on.
Shooting the shooting debris hands on their hands,
on their heads.
Unlike the the mainstream media, we just have
a mission and a narrative.
We have producers who are all around the
world, which we affectionately call Gitmo Nation.
And I did a call out.
I said, Vice, I'm a South African nurse.
And we both independently apparently got boots on
the ground.
Report Johnson to Boracay report.
Go.
It is from Matthew.
About eight years ago, I did accounting for
a publicly traded company growing tea in South
Africa.
I learned from their CEO that if a
black person goes into a white person's home
and stays there for a day or two,
the white owner, while the white owner is
away, the house belongs to the black person.
If it then takes that, it takes thousands
and thousands of dollars of legal expenses to
remove them.
South Africa is way ahead of California in
squatting laws.
They told me a story of a huge
black woman who moved into a guest house
on the tea farm and would and would
not leave.
Her only English phrase was dis my house.
At the time, I thought this was hilarious.
The company had to leave South Africa because
they had to hire a quota of black
workers.
And the laws kept getting worse for the
white owners.
Also, I recall the ownership of the business
had to be partially owned by a black
person.
It's kind of like China, very much like
there's a black South African group that got
ownership rights and was paid to do nothing.
It's always about the money.
In the end, the South African story has
legs.
Ah, OK.
So I have a little more expanded story,
but along the similar lines, this is from
JB, who says and you'll recall the the
clip when his opening starts with being a
white neo-Nazi adjacent South African.
Of course, we had the clip of that.
Yeah, the professor.
Cute.
Yeah.
I thought it may be best place to
provide a boots on the ground of the
current situation in South Africa.
The famous saying goes, the problem with socialism
is that eventually you run out of other
people's money.
This very much applies.
The ANC government is no longer the Soviet
trained freedom fighters.
The world remembers them as there's absolutely nothing.
They have not stolen or broken in the
30 years in power.
They have now finally run out of other
people's money and are now selling themselves and
the country to the highest bidder.
The consensus, while not proven, is that in
order to stay solvents, they are accepting large
sums of money from Iran in return for
nuclear technology and political favors, such as taking
Israel to the International Court of Justice.
This, of course, makes them a direct enemy
of the United States.
It is my opinion that the refugee status
offered to Afrikaners is actually a political message
to the to let the ANC government know
the U.S. are not effing around.
Should the Afrikaners all leave, the economy will
be completely destroyed, not because they own all
the land, which is complete disinformation, but but
rather because 30 years of terrible state education
has left a large majority of the black
population unemployable and completely unequipped to build an
economy.
You remember the Afrikaners left Europe a long
time ago because a long time ago, because
they are incredibly self-sufficient people who will
not be walked over.
It is also largely consensus in the country.
There is no white genocide happening.
We have one of the highest murder rates,
as well as one of the highest unemployment
rates in the world.
This has caused a massive, violent crime problem
fueled by the resentment of massive inequality.
Sound familiar?
The police force is completely unable to stop
any crime due to large scale state corruption.
As an example, our Air Force has only
three working planes due to the complete failures
of the state.
Civil organizations like AfriForum have had to step
in and fill the gaps where the state
cannot provide.
To round this off, racism is always the
go to for both MSNBC and the ANC.
It allows them to paint AfriForum as the
enemy and to justify absolutely insane laws which
make it borderline illegal for me to have
a job under the banner of transformation and
equality.
What we are watching is the end of
an incredibly racist, corrupt, useless and now bankrupt
regime.
Our president even hides his US dollars in
his couch.
I feel very important to add one additional
note after our very own Zelensky moment in
the White House.
Yes, our government is exactly that stupid.
They honestly thought they were going to talk
about trade and had no idea they were
walking into such a lovely humiliation.
The rest of us back home expected exactly
this and are very chuffed.
We already owe a debt of gratitude to
this administration.
JB, white neo-Nazi adjacent South Afrikaner.
That sounds true to me.
Remember how weird that was that they took
Israel to the ICC?
Yes, and in fact, I don't have a
clip of this.
I've got enough clips.
I don't need this one of McGregor.
The guy, Douglas McGregor, the colonel or whatever.
Yeah, that guy who's all over the place.
Kind of the Scott Ritter type of guy.
He says that the only reason that Trump
did all this is that is because South
Africa went after Israel in the in the
criminal court and he's doing it to punish
them.
Well, it's definitely part of it.
Well, there's an element.
But the Iran thing is interesting, is that
if they're taking money from Iran, then, yeah,
they are a huge problem.
And that sounds completely believable.
Yeah, it does.
It does.
So thank you, Gitmo Nation producers.
All right, what else you got here?
So we have a bunch of clips.
I have a series of South African clips.
There's the Trump versus South Africa, the NPR
kind of an overview.
We can play that.
President Trump's face to face with his guest
today, South African President Cyril Ramaphosa took a
widely unexpected turn today in the Oval Office.
And Pierce Daniel Kurtzleben explains.
While the Oval Office meeting began cordially, it
grew hostile when Trump repeated false, false, false,
false claims of white genocide.
At one point, Trump paused the meeting to
show the room a four and a half
minute video promoting the idea that white South
African farmers are being targeted.
I must tell you, Mr. President, we have
had a tremendous number of people, especially since
they've seen this.
Generally, they're white farmers and they're fleeing South
Africa.
And it's a very sad thing to see.
South African President Ramaphosa pushed back against Trump's
claims, also stressing that he wanted to, quote,
reset the relationship between the United States and
South Africa.
It wasn't the only topic that angered the
president.
Trump also repeatedly insulted a reporter from NBC
when he asked the president about his administration's
accepting a luxury airplane as a gift from
Qatar.
Danielle Kurtzleben, NPR News.
I have that clip.
Can I play the clip?
Yeah, the guy.
What's his name?
Peter Alexander.
Peter, who's no slouch of a personality, has
been around forever.
But I know a clip you're going to
play, but I don't know if you have
the follow up clip or later.
Later, he says all out of the blue.
Trump says, yeah, unlike this idiot over here
from NBC.
I don't I don't have that one.
Here's that.
That was the funnier one.
Here we go.
Yes.
Mr. President, the Pentagon announced it would be
accepting a Qatari jet to be used as
an air force one.
What are you talking about?
I mean, you know, you know, you to
get out of here.
What does this have to do with the
Qatari jet?
They're giving the United States Air Force a
jet, OK?
And it's a great thing.
We're talking about a lot of other things.
This NBC trying to get off the subject
of what you just saw.
You are a real you know, you're a
terrible reporter.
Number one, you don't have what it takes
to be a reporter.
You're not smart enough.
But for you to go into a subject
about a jet that was given to the
United States Air Force, which is a very
nice thing.
They also gave five point one trillion dollars
worth of investment in addition to the jet.
Go back.
You ought to go back to your studio
at NBC, because Brian Roberts and the people
that run that place, they ought to be
investigated.
They are so terrible the way you run
that network.
And you're a disgrace.
No more questions from you.
Go ahead.
Talk about that.
His name is Peter something.
He's a terrible reporter.
Quiet, quiet, quiet.
Let's go.
Yeah, or something.
So I don't have the clothes.
I don't have the clip.
But at one point, the president Trump said
to the South African president, no, it would
be nice to get a jet from you.
And the guy goes, I don't have a
jet to give.
I'm sorry.
It would have been nice, but I have
a jet.
This is an awesome show.
So so he calls out Brian Roberts, the
CEO of Comcast.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Had to send a shot down his spine.
Well, if if you take into account where
is it here that that this just happened
tonight, CBS is waving SOS as President Trump
takes on the news operation.
Its CEO, Wendy McMahon, says that she is
stepping down as the network's parent company, Paramount,
considers settling a lawsuit with Trump over what
he claims is a deceptively edited 60 Minutes
interview with Kamala Harris.
McMahon's exit is fueling fear and speculation that
a settlement is imminent, something that senators are
now warning amounts to bribery.
They say, in part, if Paramount officials make
these concessions in a quid pro quo arrangement
to influence President Trump or other administration officials,
they may be breaking the law.
Yeah.
OK.
All right.
There you go.
Lee.
Yeah, that's good.
Wow.
It's good.
It's good.
It's good.
It's good.
It's good.
So there's an old TRT.
The Turkish operation did a 2019 report on
on the farmers getting killed.
And I want to play a clip of
this.
This clip is the S.O. African woman
farmer.
Got it.
I can I can still at times hear
their voices.
I can I can see them.
I can see David.
They separated us and they fought with David
until he had nothing left in him.
He couldn't fight anymore.
And then he just shot him.
Was David killed because he was white?
The things that they said when I was
with them, you being the word white being
thrown around quite a bit.
The word black being thrown around a bit.
Yes, I think it was more because he
was white.
Yeah.
So this is not a new thing to
go back to you at all.
No, it's not even close to being new.
So here is the this guy Malema is
the is the real troublemaker down there.
And he is he was a part of
he was in parliament for a while.
And he runs the EFF, the which is
and people should look him up.
Julius Molina on Wikipedia.
His story is it's unbelievable.
The ex ANC guy, African National Congress.
He looks like like a guardian angel.
He always always wearing a red hat and
this whole group's always dressed in red.
They're communists and they're avowed Marxists.
Yes.
And they're partly part of this, the system
that's down there that they've established.
And.
I got a few clips from him, I
got him from twenty, twenty two on the
radio, I got him recent clip.
This is a short kind of short clip.
It's hard to understand him on this one,
but he's talking about the farmers moving to
the ones that have the Afrikaners that have
come to the USA.
This is Malema on the farmers coming to
the USA.
If he wants them to start treating him
differently and is going to beg them to
attend the G20, he's going to have to
compromise some of the fundamental policies.
Of this country.
I got to set it up better.
This is a he is commenting on the
on the president of South Africa being in
the White House now and going there to
do the deals.
And he's condemning him for doing it because
you shouldn't leave the country at all and
blah, blah, blah.
And then he brings out this part is
some part of some discussion of the farmers.
I'll start it over.
If he wants them to start treating him
differently and is going to beg them to
attend the G20, he's going to have to
compromise some of the fundamental policies of this
country, which were not prepared.
If he does that, he must not come
back.
He must stay there with those 49 Afrikaners
already.
He must also stay there because he can't
compromise our sovereignty for political expediency.
We've got positions on Palestine.
We've got position on the embassy of Israel.
We have a resolution of parliament that said
that embassy must leave South Africa.
Its majority in parliament took that decision.
So you cannot go alone as an executive
overrule the position of parliament.
If he does that, it will be illegal
and we're going to fight it.
There are no Afrikaners who have been killed
here in South Africa.
It's not true.
And there are no 49 Afrikaners who left
South Africa.
You all know that it's a fiction.
It's drama.
You know, America with drama is number one.
That thing is movango.
I don't know what is movango in Africa.
It's just a drama.
I believe they learned that and then they
waited for cameras, took them pictures.
The next flight back to South Africa.
If those people are farmers, it means there
are 49 farms available.
Why are we not expropriating them?
Because they've abandoned them.
That's great.
Hey, if they left, how come we haven't
grabbed their stuff yet?
Yeah, it kind of says it all, doesn't
it?
It kind of says it all.
Yeah.
Well, here he is on the radio being
called out because of his racism.
This is Malema 2022 on the radio.
Now, the way a sentence is structured, you
say we are not calling for the slaughter
of white people, at least for now.
That means at some future date, we may
call for the slaughter of white people.
Is that correct?
Let's deal with that at that future date.
I don't know what's going to happen.
So you're saying you are not ruling out
that in the future you may very well
call for the slaughter of white people.
It may not be me.
Could it be?
It could be me.
Yes, but it may not be me.
Yeah, so it could be you.
You could at some future date call for
the slaughter of white people.
What will necessitate that?
You tell me.
I don't know.
Why would you why would I do that?
You said you could do it in the
future.
Is that correct?
I can't guarantee that I can do it
or I won't do it.
So right now, I'm not ruling out that
possibility.
If I asked you to pledge to say
I will never call for the slaughter of
white people, would you make that pledge?
I will do it with ease.
Make that pledge.
Why would I do that?
I'm asking you to make that.
I don't know what I will do.
I won't do it.
Make the pledge.
I won't do it.
You won't do it.
Yes.
I understand.
That's a bad look.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
Well, here he here he is.
It go back to 2019.
And here is Malema making some other comments
that are worth noting.
And it sounds like, oh, well, that oh,
that's what's going on.
And considering he's a Marxist and the and
and the other clips that we played earlier
indicate that this that the South Africans are
just, you know, selling what they can, you
know, take what they can.
It's like the socialist thing where you just
keep you break everybody.
Just OK, we're out of money now.
Listen to this.
I've never called for their slaughter.
I've never called for their killing.
At least for now.
I can't guarantee the future.
Yeah, but I mean, you'd understand somebody watching
that.
They freak out.
It sounds like a genocidal.
Cry babies.
Cry babies.
I'm not calling for the slaughter of white
people.
At least for now.
I'm saying to you, not under my leadership.
Will we call for the slaughter of white
people?
I don't know who's coming after me.
I will not speak.
Yeah, they are.
They are alarmist.
They are cry babies.
They are attention seekers.
No one is going to slaughter them.
The farm attacks is just an act of
crime.
It's not a genocide on white people.
We are concerned even in the farms.
The black workers are killed.
Should we now be alarmist and say there's
genocide of black farm workers?
No, it's a crime.
Expropriation of land without compensation.
Tell me what it means to you, because
it means lots of things to lots of
people.
No, no, it means it's very simple.
The state owns the land and then it
gives it to you on a long lease.
In that way, everyone else will have access
to the land.
Wow.
Well, there's your Marxism, socialism, communism, right?
The kicker right there was the state.
Now, all of a sudden, when did that
happen?
The state owns the land, which is a
very communist thing.
I remember when I went to the Soviet
Union around the time you did, I think.
And I was warmed up to one of
the principles of the government.
And he made the point.
And I think this is still in play
in China, which is why they have so
much trouble with intellectual property, he says.
He told me, he says, well, the way
we see it, intellectual property belongs to the
people.
Yeah.
And so, yeah, OK.
So we copied something, but it's because it's
for the good of the people.
And that's the way they see it.
And that would mean the same thing with
land ownership.
So all of a sudden, South Africa has
become you don't there's no property rights.
You only get to borrow it.
Now, that's kind of the case in Hawaii
to a large extent, too.
For some reason, this is the this is
the United States Democrat Party's dream.
Yeah.
No wonder the news media is it's eminent
domain.
We've got eminent domain.
Yeah.
But that you're supposed to get a fair
deal for it.
Yeah.
You're supposed to get money to get money
for it.
Yeah.
Eminent.
It's also eminent.
Domain is different.
Yes.
There's compensation for eminent domain in South Africa,
too.
They make that point.
Oh, yeah.
No, they get they get money for this
and that.
They don't get money for the confiscated farms.
That's different than eminent domain.
That's just the government owns everything.
The government owns all the property.
Well, I thought that was kind of interesting.
But this could be just this EFF guy,
this economic freedom fighter, Malema.
But now they're in the documentary that the
Turks did.
I have one last clip.
And this is a clip from a guy
from the ANC, the ruling party.
Being confronted by the the journalist from Turkey
in his house, just discussing the same thing,
and he puts it in a different way,
but it's pretty much the same deal.
This is the South Africa ANC leader on
property rights.
The minority is now in my in position
of the majority of the land.
Almost 85 percent is it is tied to
the social stability and economic stability of the
country.
I've got a population in urban cities which
needs a settlement.
To some people, expropriation without compensation means stealing
without giving you anything for stealing your stuff.
So tell me why I'm wrong.
No, you are wrong, because I mean, it
is not stealing when it is done orderly.
It is done by the constitution.
It's done properly.
And you are given reasons why government must
take the property.
Throughout the world, government use expropriation powers to
for for various purposes, for example, to build
roads, to build health facilities.
There is an expropriation clause in the constitution
of any country.
Any country?
No.
Well, according to him.
So but the basis for everything going on
is largely confiscation.
They've decided that you don't own you don't
own the property that you have titled.
You will own nothing and you will be
happy.
Yes, it's exactly the same.
It's exactly what it is.
Well, this is a good model to look
towards and say, no, we probably don't want
that.
It's probably not a good idea.
We don't want that.
Don't want that.
We'll keep our eye on it.
Thank you very much, President Trump, for making
African news great again.
We're very we're very pleased with that.
We have to talk about Biden, this book.
Of course, the news broke during the last
show.
But something else happened, which I, I know
you have clips on, so I'm not sure
exactly what's in there, but I'll just play
the the 27 seconds of the announcement by
Scott Adams.
Some of you have already guessed.
So this won't surprise you at all.
But I have the same cancer that Joe
Biden has.
So I also have prostate cancer that has
also spread to my bones.
But I've had it longer than he's had
it.
Well, longer than he's admitted having it.
So my life expectancy is maybe the summer.
I'd expect to I expect to be checking
out from this domain sometime this summer.
OK, so first of all, I'm like, wow,
that's very shocking and that's very sad.
I have to be honest to you.
John, my second thought was, is this another
one of his hypno tricks that he's trying
to prove a point?
I hate that I thought that.
But I immediately thought he's why now?
Why is he saying this?
What is the point?
He always does strange things with announcements and
then says, oh, I got y'all to
think this or I got y'all to
think that.
Did you have that thought at all or
is that just me?
No, because I didn't hear a sped up
clip like the you just played.
I've been listening to him live and he
sounds like he's on his deathbed, to be
honest about it.
I don't think I don't think that was
sped up.
I'm telling you, it's not that it's not.
Well, I didn't I didn't speed it up
anyway.
But he is and I I'm in contact
with him and he is.
No, there's no way I never thought that
either, I thought that he might be kind
of he kind of hints something that what
clips I have aren't about him, this is
announcements about some hints he makes, which I
thought were the most interesting thing, because I
suspect.
Now, Scott, Scott, you know, had a back
and forth with a lot of different people
at the Vax, he was a pro Vaxer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he kind of got is in some
what denial about it.
But I know exactly when it happened, when
he when his when he realized that he
had made a mistake.
No, no, I don't know if he ever
realized he fully made a mistake.
But I remember when he switched, when his
brain was pushed in the direction of of
allowing himself to on what was I'm looking
for a word to not be to to
naively take the vaccine because you think because
the government recommended it.
It was it predates the vaccine by a
lot.
It's from the early days of the covid.
I would watch his show.
And and I always thought it was very
odd that he came to a screwball conclusion,
he'd like to use a whiteboard and on
the whiteboard he put about the origins of
the of the of the virus.
This is right at the beginning.
And he says, well, here's the possibilities.
He says it talks about the wet market
bull crap.
He says there's a wet market and wet
market there in Wuhan where it came from.
And then there's a there's a and people
are discussing the the Wuhan virology lab that
that works researches coronaviruses.
And he puts them both up on the
board and he says, you have to go
with the simple answer.
Yes, it's obviously the wet market.
Wow.
Yeah.
And when he did that.
That put his brain into a track that
led to getting vaxxed, because that was illogical.
In fact, Jon Stewart went on the Colbert
show at least twice.
I remember.
I think we probably have that clip, actually.
Yeah.
And he made a just a big fuss
about this saying, what do you guys think?
There's a place that researches is a lot
of lab that's known for its lousy security.
It's right there.
Why aren't you calling this out?
Stewart was beside himself about why people aren't
noticing the obvious, which continued till like a
couple of years.
And it's only recently that he finally said,
OK, OK, OK.
It was the lab.
I have I have a 40 second, 40
second clip.
What do you mean by it?
Do you mean like this or perhaps there's
a chance that this was created in a
lab?
There's an investigation.
A chance.
Well, I think there's evidence I'd love to
hear.
There's a novel respiratory coronavirus overtaking Wuhan, China.
What do we do?
Oh, you know, we could ask the Wuhan
novel respiratory coronavirus lab.
The disease is the same name as the
lab.
That's just that's just a little too weird,
don't you think?
And then the actual scientists are like, how
did this?
So wait a minute.
You work at the Wuhan respiratory coronavirus lab.
How did this happen?
And they're like, oh, a pangolin kissed a
turtle.
Yeah.
And Colbert was in the same kind of
boat of Scott.
Oh, yeah.
No, this can't be.
I'm going to I'm going to I'm going
to I'm going to whatever what evidence you
have.
But remember, he had the dancing, the dancing
hypodermic needles during COVID.
He did.
Promoting the vaccine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I forgot about the dancing hypodermic needles.
So Scott had a couple of comments that
I thought were one was a teaser.
And then one was a teaser.
One was a tell.
And it has to do with the possibility
that this is not your typical prostate cancer,
because I knew Bill Ziff had prostate cancer
when I first met him.
And he went he must have had it
for 20 years.
And he finally succumbed to it, but it
was took him forever.
And and it didn't seem to affect him.
He didn't have the slurring or anything that's
going on with Scott.
And he I don't know how what the
final how he actually finally died when it
was when he died.
But but I thought that this was revealing
and may indicate there's something more going on
than just simple prostate cancer plays.
Scott Adams teaser.
The doctors who have appeared on social media
and on the TV.
I don't think they're right either.
OK, so the doctors all came all of
a sudden.
We had a deluge, a deluge deluge of
of doctors coming on saying, well, Biden had
this forever.
He probably had it for his entire presidency.
And they were going on and on.
And they can they got to the point
where they.
Predated it pre covid vaccine, because we know
Biden got a couple of shots, a couple.
Four or five, four or five, I don't
know, a lot, I think.
But by saying that, you know, he probably
had it when he got elected in 2020,
you know, probably before that, because it takes
forever to get to this point of bone
infection affecting the bones.
It takes six, seven, eight, nine years.
And Scott, which predates the shot.
Yes.
Scott teases that he thinks that the doctors
aren't right.
Why would he say that?
Because I you can play some clips of
Scott currently and then you can play him
from two years ago.
And I don't think he had anything wrong
with him two years ago.
If you listen to him, he was just
too, too spry to to.
I mean, it's still funny.
He's a I think he's one of the
I think Scott Adams, I told him this,
too.
I said, did you talk to him recently?
Is that a good exchange?
A couple of notes.
Mm hmm.
I've never told this in person, but I
believe him to be on the same league
as Mark Twain and Will Rogers as a
contemporary humorist.
And he did appreciate that comment, but I
believe it to be true.
There's not that many people that come around.
Let me ask you this.
Why would a guy like Scott Adams, who
has a lot of he's always been.
You know, I was looking at medical stuff
and always worried about his health.
I mean, was there nothing to be done
for him?
Did he just give up?
Did he did he just say, OK, I'm
going to live with this?
I mean, that's it seems so.
On Scott, I think this is what tells
me with that tease that this came on
faster than imaginable, like turbo fast.
Yes.
Mm hmm.
So listen to the tell this Scott Adams
tell.
But the big question is, how long does
it take to go from a clean bill
of health to stage four prostate cancer?
So I heard some one doctor say it
would take seven to 10 years or something
like that.
I don't think that's right.
I think there is actually a tremendous variability
of how long it takes to go from
localized in the prostate and your PSA spikes
to.
Oh, it is spread to your bones.
Sounds like it's on Percocet, actually.
Something like that.
No, that's why his description of the pain
is like he's had to be on morphine.
Oh, morphine.
Yeah.
Oh, man, I feel so bad.
That's that sucks.
Well, yeah, because he is a good observer.
You get material from material ideas, at least.
And we don't know, but we had a
fight with him.
And I feel bad about the fight.
You should do that to me.
Don't don't do that to me.
I will pray for it.
But I think and I don't you know,
I'm not going to even discuss it with
him, which is the VAX issue that this
came on that.
Most people, you get prostate cancer.
The rule is that there's nothing you can
do about it, really.
You can have your prostate removed with that.
You know, you can do that.
But it doesn't make any difference, it turns
out, if you have it removed or not,
because it's such a slow moving process that
by the time you're in your 80s, you
are going to die of something else anyway.
It's just it's just the way it is.
And for this to happen, like at this
rapid pace, which Scott indicates as far as
I can tell, because he has to tell
and he has the foreboding.
And then he says those doctors are full
of shit.
Yeah.
About Biden.
Yeah.
He had you don't say that from a
perspective unless you know something.
Well, I hope that he speaks his mind
in his final days.
It would be very good for humanity.
And yeah, I think you will.
I mean, he's still doing a show.
I don't know.
I sure hope he will.
I don't know how long he can continue
doing it, but he can do it probably
for a while.
Gosh, in light of the Michael Yadin clips
we played on the last show, it's just
horrible.
It's just horrible.
Yeah, I think those clips are applicable.
Yeah.
But this is this.
But the idea of prostate, there was some
commentary about the spike protein headed toward reproductive
organs.
Well, for sure.
For sure.
So there's some of that kind of thing.
But but if this is going to show
up as a turbo.
Prostate cancer, that's going to have some at
some point they're going to have to say
something.
Somebody has no, no.
Well, Scott may say something.
Everyone will be.
No, he won't.
He won't.
I don't believe he will.
It's the plastics you're drinking.
It's something it's environmental.
It's it's all kinds of we don't know.
We don't know.
We can't think of a single thing that
changed.
That's what your medical community is saying.
Which is.
Well, Ron Johnson just came out with a
report about.
I saw it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The report I did just it just dropped
in my inbox like, whoa.
Yeah, the report just came out and he
says that this is they have to change
the the recommendation for this vaccine.
Yes.
Like, no.
Let's change the recommendation.
Yeah, well, that that's what they're discussing, right?
There was a big brouhaha about it.
They say, well, it should only be for
old people who are on death's door.
Yeah, pretty much.
Pretty much over the cliff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll see.
OK.
But anyway, it's a depressing situation.
That is depressing.
Yes.
But to lighten it, you could ask him
if he has anal leakage.
He might get a kick out of it.
I'm not going to try to do material.
We're going to try to do material.
The dying man.
OK.
I'm just thinking like I want to cheer
the guy up.
I know it.
There's some stuff I know he think is
funny, but I'm not.
I'm not an asshole anyway.
I'm going to overdo it.
Well, I still pray for Scott Adams that
things can turn around.
Anything is possible.
You know, he thinks it's not possible, but
I think it is.
I think it's possible.
I really think it's possible.
Just along the lines of Covid, our new
NIH director, Jay Bhattachary, Bhattachary, gave a speech
in front of some staff like, I don't
know, an auditorium full of staff.
And when he said this, people stood up
and walked out of the auditorium.
It's possible there's a lot of a lot
of controversy over this.
I'm sure there's folks in the room who
disagree with me.
It's possible that the pandemic was caused by
research conducted by human beings.
And it's also possible that the NIH partly
sponsored that research.
And if that's true, it's nice to have
free speech.
Welcome, you guys.
There they go.
All walking out.
Yeah, they're walking out to go to get
to their lawyer's office.
If it's true that we sponsored research, if
it's true that we sponsored research that caused
the pandemic.
And if you look at polls of the
American people, that's what most people believe.
And I've looked at the scientific evidence.
I believe it.
What we have to do is make sure
that we do not engage in research that's
any risk of opposing any risk to human
populations.
That's a very good standard.
Heaven forbid we do that.
I have a couple of clips about the
limitation of the COVID vaccine slash booster from
the man who would know all about it.
Fauci.
Oh, wait.
Botep.
How is the approval process changing and who
will be affected the most?
Well, the first part, Pam, is not much
of a change because it reduces hospitalizations and
deaths.
The recommendation is to provide annual immunizations to
those over the age of 65.
That is Botep.
Yeah, that is Botep.
I didn't realize until I just I mean,
I recognize his voice, but I didn't realize
he does sound a little bit like a
just a pubescent teen.
He sounds like a boy.
Just without looking at him, he does not
sound like a mature male.
No.
Well, he's definitely got something wrong with him.
Hospitalizations and deaths.
The recommendation is to provide annual immunizations to
those over the age of 65 and those
with or those with underlying risk factors.
And in a guidance document they publish in
the New England Journal of Medicine, they listed
what those risk factors are.
So no problem there.
The part that I disagree with is they've
stopped recommending universal vaccinations for those individuals under
the age of 65.
And the reason I think that's a mistake
is because they're not really considering the impact
of long COVID.
There's now evidence to suggest that if you
vaccinate, keep up with your immunization.
What is evidence to suggest?
Is that evidence?
If there's evidence to suggest?
It doesn't mean anything.
It doesn't mean there's evidence.
You said there's some stuff to suggest, but
it's not evidence that suggests.
Because they're not really considering the impact of
long COVID.
There's now evidence to suggest that if you
vaccinate, keep up with your immunizations, you're much
less likely to experience long COVID.
And I think there's a lot of people
concerned about long COVID and potentially they're not
eligible.
I think another reason is there is some
impact on reducing virus transmission if you're vaccinated.
So I'm starting to get emails and direct
messages on Blue Sky and X from people
in their 40s and 50s who are taking
care of aging parents and they're worried about
giving COVID to their parents.
So I think that's another reason to vaccinate.
So I think, in my view, this should
be a decision made between individuals and their
physicians if you're under the age of 65.
And basically, the federal government has taken that
decision away from us.
And I'm puzzled by that, given the fact
that this administration, at least the Department of
Health and Human Services, keeps on beating the
drum about health freedom, medical freedom.
This seems to be the opposite of that.
Yeah, because they won't pay for it.
You can take the vaccine if you want.
You should have seen the FDA page, or
I don't know if it was the FDA
page, about this new recommendation.
I don't think it was a verboten thing.
No, it wasn't.
He's full of shit, that guy.
There were 5,000 comments of people saying
like that.
But I want it.
I want it.
What if I want it?
I want it.
I want it.
I want it.
It's like, wow.
Okay.
Yeah, well, there are people that want it.
They can do what they want.
Well, here's his follow-up.
It's interesting, Doctor, that this change brings the
U.S. approval process in line with other
countries like the U.K., Canada, and Australia.
The FDA hopes this change might help restore
public confidence in vaccine safety.
Does this change help achieve that goal?
You know, I don't think so.
I think what undermines public confidence in vaccine
safety is all of the anti-vaccine activism
and rhetoric that you're hearing on other cable
news channels and some of the conspiracy podcasts.
Yeah, we've got to mention conspiracy podcasts.
That's what's going to help restore vaccine confidence.
Get rid of those.
What did he say?
What's going to restore vaccine confidence?
Getting rid of those conspiracy podcasts?
Yeah, I'll do it.
Let me go back it up a second.
What did he say here?
That you're hearing on other cable news channels
and some of the conspiracy podcasts.
That's what's going to help restore vaccine confidence.
In other words, get rid of the skeptics.
Let me hear it again.
I don't think so.
I think what undermines public confidence in vaccine
safety is all of the anti-vaccine activism
and rhetoric that you're hearing on other cable
news channels and some of the conspiracy podcasts.
That's what's going to help restore vaccine confidence.
If anything...
That's very interesting.
He says the confidence is...
Well, so the question is about the confidence.
Well, I think it's because of the rhetoric,
anti-vaccine rhetoric and the conspiracy podcasts, that's
going to restore confidence.
What he left out was, we're going after
him?
It's like he forgot to say something in
there.
You know what I mean?
No, I don't know what you mean.
Listen to the clip again.
It's interesting, doctor, that this change brings the
US approval process in line with other countries
like the UK, Canada and Australia.
The FDA hopes this change might help restore
public confidence in vaccine safety.
Does this change help achieve that goal?
Okay, does this change help achieve that goal?
You know, I don't think so.
I think what undermines public confidence in vaccine
safety is all of the anti-vaccine activism
and rhetoric that you're hearing on other cable
news channels and some of the conspiracy podcasts.
Okay, here's what he said.
They said, you think that these new policies
will change the public perception?
And he says, no, that won't because the
real problem is other networks, Fox and OAN
and these other, you know, fringe channels and
the anti-vaxxers on these conspiracy podcasts.
That's what the problem is, is what he
said.
Okay, let's just listen to the last 16
seconds and then we'll decide after that.
Does this change help achieve that goal?
You know, I don't think so.
I think what undermines public confidence in vaccine
safety is all of the anti-vaccine activism
and rhetoric that you're hearing on other cable
news channels and some of the conspiracy podcasts.
And that's what's going to help restore vaccine
confidence.
If anything, I think this now kind of
takes decisions away from individuals making health decisions
in collaboration with their physician.
It takes away that option.
And I don't think that's the way we
should go in the United States.
It sounded strange to me.
I know exactly what you're thinking now.
Because you're right.
You're right.
What?
I didn't hear you.
He said, he talked about the podcast and
he says, that's what will restore.
Yes.
And what he left out was getting rid
of this disinformation is what will restore.
No, no, he didn't say getting rid of
disinformation.
No, that's what he didn't say.
That's what you were missing.
He meant to say that.
And he left it out.
Podcast!
It's podcast.
He's against the podcast.
Yes, he left that out.
But that's what he meant.
Anyway, final bit here.
He was thinking it, but he didn't say
it.
This is the final clip where he introduces
a term that is worth discussing.
In making this decision, FDA officials said there
is not enough evidence that healthy children and
adults get clinically meaningful benefits from regular COVID
-19 shots.
They want to see more placebo-controlled trials,
particularly in adults 50-64 before recommending the
shots for other groups.
So what's wrong with that?
Well, there's a couple of things.
One, they only consider the acute manifestations of
COVID in terms of case fatality rates and
hospitalizations.
And while that's certainly important, they're not factoring
in the chronic sequelae such as long COVID,
such as chronic sequelae.
Chronic sequelae.
And now all of a sudden long COVID
is a thing.
Sequelae is a condition resulting from a disease,
injury, therapy or other trauma.
A typical sequelae is a chronic complication of
an acute condition, a long-term effect of
a temporary disease or injury.
So now long COVID is a sequelae.
They're not factoring in the chronic sequelae such
as long COVID, such as downstream heart disease.
Remember, this is a thromboembolic virus that causes
strokes and heart attacks.
They're not looking at the chronic implications of
COVID.
And I think that's a mistake.
And then the other is the idea that
they'll allow universal vaccination provided the pharma companies
now conduct a brand new round of clinical
trials for each updated variant.
It's not realistic because it can take months
and months to do the enrollment.
The expense of doing a trial especially now
when everyone's been either previously infected or infected
and vaccinated or vaccinated and infected would be
a massive study.
That would be prohibitively expensive.
It basically means the pharma companies are probably
not likely to pursue that.
So it's really a way of denying vaccine
access for those who want it.
And it goes against what Mr. Kennedy recently
said.
He made the point of saying he'll never
deny any American access to any vaccine.
And clearly that's not the case.
He's changed his mind apparently.
Yeah, my doctor has told me get the
COVID booster shot.
You might still wind up getting COVID but
it'll be a much milder case than if
you hadn't gotten the COVID booster shot.
Dr. Peter Hotez, thanks as usual for joining
us.
We always appreciate your expertise.
Yeah, so Brolf got a phone.
Thank you, Brolf.
Good one.
You helped us.
Thank you very much.
Thanks for saying that.
Thanks for promoting it at the end of
that confusing conversation.
We appreciate that.
So back to President Biden.
Now my first thought there was they're finally
going to kill him if he's not dead
already.
And all of a sudden...
Yes?
You know, it's the meme that there's one
of the memes in the newsletter that kind
of have that in mind.
Morbidity.
I think that yeah, that's what I was
thinking.
The guys decided to go back out on
the speaking tours.
And they don't want that.
Nobody wants that.
He doesn't listen to anyone, so they're going
to kill him.
You know, so now we have this expose.
Wait, before we get to the expose, a
little reminder, a little mini-cut of the
M5M calling President Biden's stuttering and unintelligible language
cheap fakes.
Do we remember this period of time?
Who can forget?
It's cheap fakes, everybody.
This version of Biden intellectually, analytically, is the
best Biden ever.
If it weren't the truth, I wouldn't say
it.
Look, I'll do what he's unable to do.
I'll lead an effective strategy to mobilize true
international pressure to isolate and punish China.
Thanks to all the members of Congress and
Homeland Security Secretary I'm not sure I'm going
to introduce you all the way.
We're hearing about so-called cheap fakes.
It's playing out on right-wing media, Fox,
New York Post, and so on.
And all of this is to try to
make the case that Biden is slipping, he's
confused, and so on.
If he knows so long as he's denied
our freedom can never be secured.
We'll teach Donald Trump a valuable lesson.
Don't mess with America unless you want to
get the benefits.
There are a lot of videos going around
about President Biden on social media.
Which ones are real, which ones are deceptively
edited, now being called cheap fakes.
A lot of memes and what the White
House is calling cheap fakes.
Cheap fakes are a little bit simpler.
They're cheap.
They're just distorted, out-of-context videos chopped
up in certain ways, constructed in certain ways.
That's what we're seeing.
That's what the Biden administration, the Biden campaign
is so worried about right now.
How do you lead the world without having
the best infrastructure?
How do you lead the world without having
the best healthcare in the world?
How do you lead the world without having
the best education system in the world?
How do you lead the world when you
don't have that done?
We owe these truths to be self-evident.
All men and women created by God, you
know the thing.
Of course, we knew what was going on.
We talked about it.
Now, so Jake Tapper and this Alex Thompson
from Axios, they wrote a book which, to
me, and this even comes up in some
of the CBS stuff, seemed like, wow, okay,
so you get away with covering up and
then you get to write a book and
get to say, oh, no, we did some
investigative journalism.
That's great.
But no one has answered yet and no
one has asked what was up with Daddy
Longlegs?
Don't pussyfoot around.
Who was that guy?
Who was that guy?
Is he dead?
Did you kill him?
Because obviously you can't have a perfectly good
Biden walking around with legs that are too
long.
So that question never came up.
However, I have decided that we need to
cover more of the podcast media because it
is media that people are listening to, one
of the most popular.
I feel the same way and I have
some clips later in the show that have
nothing to do with this.
But the same thing, you gotta go to
the podcast.
Gotta go to the podcast and the job
for the No Agenda producers is, of course,
to send us podcasts with time codes because
it's very hard.
It's important that we get this from the
outside because there's too damn many podcasts.
I know.
It's crazy.
There's over 4.4 million podcasts that I
know of that you've, because you keep track
of the number and I always grill you
about it.
Well, let me give you the current number
because the number that counts is the number
of active podcasts in the last 90 days.
Which means they've updated with an episode in
the last 90 days.
That number is 488,484 as of today.
Still too many.
It's too many.
That is a lot of podcasts.
That's global now.
That's global.
That's more than one out of every thousand
people you run into, there's one of them
is a podcaster.
One of them is a podcaster.
That's a horrible statistic.
You need to help us with time codes.
We both listen to podcasts but it's impossible
to listen to everything.
However, Meg and Kelly...
And they're also lengthy.
But that's the beauty of the podcast, man.
That's the great part about a podcast.
If you're a customer of the podcast and
you like listening to somebody yak away for
a while, but in terms of us collecting
clips, it makes it very difficult.
Said the man who does a 3.5
hour podcast twice a week.
So, please help us with that.
It is very important.
And Meg and Kelly, absolutely one of the
top podcasters, she just started a new feature
which is the AM update.
I really appreciate what she's doing here.
It's about 15 to 18 minutes long.
This is something I can listen to on
a daily basis.
Most of us like, okay.
But she had Tapper and Thompson on and
her interview was a lot better than anything
else.
Yes?
I just wanted to say, I watched this
too.
The guy Tapper took all the flack.
This other guy was...
He must have been just wiping his brow
on and off because she never grilled him.
She didn't grill him.
She only asked him a question.
I think the deal here, this guy had
a book deal to do a book about
Biden before the election.
So I think he's the deal guy.
He really has the book and Tapper is
there to be the lightning rod.
He's supposed to take all the heat and
he deserves it.
He deserves it.
It could only ever work if you allowed
it.
If the press allowed it.
Some of us tried not to and some
of us were complicit.
The Biden White House did not like me.
I do not have great connections with the
Biden White House.
Says the guy who was at the birthday
party of the deputy CIA director hanging out,
hobnobbing with everybody.
Okay.
You say you talked to over 200 sources
for this book.
This was after the election.
You could have called and worked.
That's the point.
They were not being honest.
How did the Wall Street Journal get it
in June of 2024 and Jake Tapper and
CNN couldn't find sources for this story then
before he dropped out?
Annie Linsky and Siobhan Hughes did an amazing
job in their reporting.
They didn't get the book deal though.
They should be heralded and I heralded them.
I had them on my show right after
the debate to talk about their great reporting.
You did not put them on when they
published that story, which was before the debate.
Correct.
If we're going to do this, let's just
stick to the facts here.
Oh, what a douche.
If we're going to do this, let's just
stick to the facts.
Okay, Megan.
Which was before the debate.
If we're going to do this, let's just
stick to the facts here.
Jake, that's what I've been doing all along.
One of us didn't miss the biggest story
of the century when it comes to presidential
politics and one of us did.
Alright, then we get into a very interesting
angle where instead of saying the podcasts were
right, oh no, it was conservative media.
And Alex and I are here to say
that conservative media was right and conservative media
was correct and that there should be a
lot of soul-searching, not just among me,
but among the legacy media to begin with.
Soul-searching?
John, you and I should do some soul
-searching of our own.
I've always believed that.
But among the legacy media.
That's you, it's yourself.
Begin with, all of us, for how this
was covered or not covered sufficiently.
100%.
Whenever someone says 100% from now on,
you might as well say bullcrap.
You know what I mean?
It's almost like 5%.
My bad.
That's another one.
When they say my bad or we bad
or our bad, it's just sickening.
And by the way, check the calendar on
that one, people.
That's on me.
That's on me.
That's another one, yeah.
That's on me.
For how this was covered or not covered
sufficiently.
100%.
So, I mean, I'm not here to defend
coverage that I've already acknowledged.
I wish I could do differently.
No, you don't.
But then, this was the eye-opener to
me.
This is what actually happened during that fateful
debate when he and I think Dana Bash
were hosting it.
If you're doing this during a debate and
you make this conclusion, you should have been
on the air the next hour talking about
it.
So, we have iPads, because you can't communicate,
obviously, talking to your control room during a
debate.
We have iPads.
I wrote, holy smokes.
Now, what I was thinking was, holy fuck.
Dana writes to me on a piece of
paper, he just lost the election.
And it was just, I mean, it is,
I don't think this is hyperbole at all,
the worst debate in the history of presidential
debates going back to 1960.
I just can't think of anything even remotely
close to it.
Who cares about your stats about 1960?
And then you saw him immediately after, you
write in the book, and he seemed unaware
that something blew.
Did I just see that?
Did I just witness this 90-minute event?
Yeah, so, okay.
So, he's full of crap.
But then, she does the one question here
from Alex Thompson, a lot of names we'd
already guessed, because we surmise, as well, someone
else is running the show.
It's not President Biden.
The people that we're naming, would they be
Mike Donilon, Steve Ricchetti.
Mike Donilon's his top political advisor.
Steve Ricchetti's top legislative advisor.
Ron Klain, when he was chief of staff.
Bruce Reed, his, basically, longtime policy advisor.
You can, those are sort of the four.
They were known as Politburo, Greyhairs, Poobahs, and
they were with him the most of anybody.
Now, if you were to ask them, and
I still think even if you put them
on truth serum today, they would say, he
was fine.
Then, there's this other sort of group that
aren't the Politburo, but are just as powerful.
And they were the ones that kept the
schedule, affected personnel, and really built the bubble.
And that would be Annie Tomasini, who was
deputy chief of staff and previously, Oval Office
Operations.
And then, Anthony Bernal, who was the top
aide slash enforcer for First Lady Jill Biden,
and had incredible influence to the point that
even people in the Biden White House would
refer to her as one of the most
powerful First Ladies in history.
I have a couple of clips that follow
this now.
Because he left one person out.
Which will be in the clip.
Which clip is it, John?
These are the Lindy Lee clips.
Oh, Lindy Lee.
Yeah, this is the She was a fundraiser
big time, and she's always in the White
House, and she's spending a lot of time.
She's all over the place.
She's been on every podcast about Kamala Harris
and the money and all this, because she
was a fundraiser.
She's mad, hopping mad.
She basically is hopping mad.
Yes, you're right.
So basically, she's turned on Biden.
She is profiling herself.
She is not a whistleblower.
She is not a turncoat.
She is profiling herself.
For whatever reason, she is hyping up Lindy
Lee.
I'm not sure what she's up to, but
her information is quite entertaining.
Let's put it that way.
Jill desperately wanted him to stay.
And please bear in mind that during this
time, Biden had COVID, and Hunter was basically
sitting in on White House meetings, high-level
meetings that require security clearances.
This guy is, honestly, I'm not even entirely
sure if he's a recovering drug addict.
And it's undeniable that he peddled his influence
to enrich himself in the big guy, quote
-unquote.
So this is a guy sitting in the
Oval Office, listening in on top-level White
House meetings throughout this time, throughout the month
of July.
And I know, because my friends are senior
aides, like Steve Ricchetti and Nina Dunn, so
Biden was incapacitated this entire time because he
was really sick.
And remember that a few days before, Trump
suffered the assassination attempt.
So people were freaking out.
They rightly thought that the election was over.
How do you beat a guy like that?
And the way that he handled that with
such self-possession, I would have been freaking
out.
I would have been hysterical.
No, no, it was incredible watching him, that
moment of composure and everything else.
Right.
I mention that because Democrats were in complete
disarray, I would be putting it mildly.
And this is the thing that people don't
understand, or they don't even know, and it
hasn't been reported.
There was no money coming in, other than
the monthly recurring ActBlue donations that they trick
you into giving, obviously, but this is not
an exaggeration.
There was no money coming in after the
debate.
I mean, zero.
What podcast is this from?
Okay, this is Dave Rubin.
Oh, okay, Dave Rubin.
And you wouldn't know because the way this
was edited by me.
You edited out Dave Rubin because he's a
little long-winded and annoying.
He's not only long-winded, you don't realize
until you have to sit there and edit
him and you think to yourself, I could
be doing 10 clips instead of just one.
Which means podcasts could be 10% the
length of what they really are.
He'll ask a question three or four different
ways before he lets the other person talk.
He did not go to the School of
Podcasting by Dave Jackson.
He yak, yak, yak, and yaks and then
doubles down and kind of reiterates and does
it again and again and again.
I cut all of it out and including
the number of back and forth in that
clip.
Megyn Kelly does that too, by the way.
Yes, I've tried to clip her up too.
She also is too talkative.
And so these clips are tight compared to...
Maybe we have to just do an interview
show, John.
Maybe that's just where we have to go.
Show these kids how it's done, son.
No, maybe not.
That sounds like a pain in the butt.
No, I think what we've got is the
best formula for a show is we move
along.
Daffers, who I would just be shooting shit
with on the sofa because they had nothing
to do and we would just be commiserating
because everybody lost faith.
So Biden kind of markets his decision as
an act of patriotism.
It wasn't.
There was no money coming in so there
was no way he would have continued.
There's just no way.
But putting the money part aside, do you
have any insider info as to what the
day or two before he stepped down was
like?
I want to say, I first hinted at
this on the Sean Ryan show and then
suddenly that new book that's coming out, Fight,
I hate even mentioning it.
I don't want to give them free advertising.
But they were repeating something that I already
said two months ago, like it's some new
intel.
The role of Congressman James Clyburn has been
seriously underestimated in the public sphere.
He played such a huge role in so
many instances of Biden's recent life starting with
his 2020 campaign.
If it hadn't been James Clyburn, there would
have been no Biden presidency.
I want to be extremely clear about that.
Because he came in fifth in New Hampshire,
he was done.
And he bombed in Iowa too.
Do you remember this?
James Clyburn saved his butt by endorsing him
and allowing him to win the South Carolina
primary.
If it hadn't been his intervention, Biden would
have been done.
And that was the point at which Amy
Klobuchar, Pete Buttigieg, and everyone did our work
or rallied around him.
That was Clyburn.
Clyburn is also the person that made him
appoint Kentonji Brown-Jackson.
The woman who can't say who a woman
is?
Yeah.
Hired or nominated because she was a woman
just doesn't know what a woman is.
Exactly.
And let's just be very clear, all these
people are DEI candidates.
Oh, I forgot to mention that Kamala Harris
is picked also largely because of James Clyburn.
Hmm.
Yeah, that little tidbit.
That's interesting.
Yeah, that is good.
We had other thoughts on that, but she
does say in another part of this interview
that the three people that ran the show
were Anita Dunn was number one.
Which was not mentioned on that other clip
that you had.
Anita Dunn, who's just a horrible looking person.
Anita Dunn, Ricchetti, and Donalyn, who is brother
of the CEO of BlackRock.
Anita Dunn looks like, what's that?
Admiral?
Who's the Admiral?
Just like Rachel Levine.
She does look like Rachel Levine.
Wow.
So, Donalyn, who's the other guy, who's brother
of the guy who runs BlackRock, is largely
responsible for passing BlackRock as the one who
pushed the DEI agenda on the corporate world.
Which reminds me of my recent experience with
the Lexus dealer.
I'll complain about that on another show.
Very disappointed in how Lexus has turned into.
Well, I want to stick a pin in
that one, because I'm interested in hearing that
little story.
But those are the three she claims are
really the ones who ran the show.
And here's the last clip.
Biden's original intention was to not endorse Kamala
that day at all.
And he would just roll it out at
his own leisurely pace.
He wanted this stage to himself.
To basically make a victory lap.
And, you know, luxuriate in all the love
and admiration that he thought he deserved.
But James Clyburn insisted.
Actually, he wanted Biden to endorse him in
the first tweet.
There were two tweets, and separated by half
an hour.
But the fact that Biden endorsed her so
quickly afterwards was because of James.
And he kind of flies under the radar.
But Clyburn is at every major fundraiser.
I always see him at VIP events.
He has a youngish-looking wife.
I forget her name.
And the two of them would just be
there, meandering the crowd.
They're always there.
I hosted Biden-Harris here in Philadelphia in
February 2023.
Clyburn is there.
I raised half a million for them in
September, right after the debate in D.C.
And Clyburn is there.
He's there everywhere, just exerting a quiet influence.
And I'm genuinely shocked that the public hasn't
caught on.
Wow.
She's vying for a gig somewhere else, that's
for sure.
How many bridges can you burn?
Burning the bridges.
So, Dunn is married to Robert Bauer, former
partner at Perkins Coie.
And former personal counsel to President Obama and
the White House counsel.
They are the power couple of Washington, D
.C. Well, that makes sense.
With a face like that, you better have
some power.
Sorry to say it.
I hate being superficial.
Yeah, I hate when you do that, because
heaven forbid, I would never say that.
I would never comment on somebody's homely looks.
No, no.
Well, I think that for a moment here,
we should just take a little breather and
we should listen to what the ladies from
The View had to say about this book,
Original Sin.
Should anonymous sources who talked to Tapper have
spoken up about their concerns while he was
in office, while he was still in office?
And my other question is, why is this
important to know now?
Yeah.
Why?
You know, we got a lot of stuff
to be concerned about at the moment.
Should I list them?
Here's the Trump's atrocities.
I'm gonna list them for you.
Cutting Medicaid.
Well, this is what we're concerned about now.
Cutting Medicaid.
Slashing funding for cancer research.
Rising prices because of tariffs.
Dismantling USAID, which helps children and people who
are poor around the world.
Fears of recession.
Destroying due process.
Ending birthright citizenship.
Dismantling the Department of Education.
Rolling back regulations on air and water quality.
Destroying our relationships with allies like Canada and
the UK.
And targeting his political opponents.
And not only that, but he also said
that Joe Biden has stage 9 cancer.
Oh, really?
Where did he come up with that?
When is Jake Tapper gonna write a book
about the cognitive decline of the person who
is in charge right now?
Preach, girl!
Preach, girl!
Preach!
Yeah, he needs to write a book about
that!
Meanwhile, and I'll get back to Tapper in
a moment, President Trump spoke at the Kennedy
dinner last night.
Well, it was last night, the night before
last night.
Did you see any video of this?
No, I saw none of it.
He had a lectern, or more like a
stand for his speech notes.
And like a golden eagle is holding up
the speech.
But it's not just a golden eagle.
It looks like the golden eagle is made
of gold, clearly.
It has a head like a...
Well, plated.
Like not made of gold.
It has a head like one of those
cartoon eagles.
Like Captain America cartoon eagles.
Oh, that's funny.
It's very leaderistic, let me put it that
way.
And he says, hey, whatever you say, we
were numbnuts before I came along.
As they said, the king of Saudi Arabia
said, your place, your country is a whole
different image now.
We were a laughing stock.
An absolute laughing stock.
But we're not a laughing stock any longer.
And, you know, I was talking to, as
I said, President Putin for two and a
half hours that was being very seriously listened
to.
We don't like what's happening.
We don't like that we should have ever
been involved.
Would have never happened.
But we're respected again as a country.
You know, one thing that I tell you
that I think is amazing, if you remember
about eight months ago, the big story was
that nobody wants to join our military.
We couldn't have any...
People weren't joining.
And they weren't proud of our country.
They weren't joining police forces all over the
country.
Houston, Dallas, all over the country, New York.
And now we have record setting enlistment in
the military.
Think of that, record setting.
The most in 38 years, but it's probably
more than that.
They started taking the numbers 38 years ago,
right?
But the most in 30 years, probably the
most ever, I don't know.
But we have record setting young people that
want to join the military.
And that's incredible.
To have that is just absolutely incredible.
And to think that eight months ago, we
were all listening to the fact that this
was before the election.
Eight months ago, we were listening to the
fact that we wouldn't have any you know,
we wouldn't have anybody in our military.
I mean, nobody.
Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Space Force.
I'm so proud of Space Force because we
got that going.
We started Space Force and they wanted to
terminate it and the military backed up and
they said, you're not going to do that.
We were third in space and now we're
number one in space by a lot.
They've done a great job.
They had some great commanders in Space Force.
But you know, ultimately it's going to be
one of the most important things we've ever
done because it's all heading to space.
And I'm not talking about just experimental things
that we do.
We can understand that.
But we're, in terms of defense and offense
of our country.
Yeah, we're number one.
I just want to play a few of
the CBS this morning with CBS, Gale and
the gang with with Tapper and Thompson.
Tapper and Thompson.
You don't need the intro.
Okay, so they are blaming all of this
on the administration, on the aides, on the
White House, who was running the White House.
It's all their fault.
Did you guys think the aides were being
deceitful or did you think that they really
believed that he was going to be okay,
Alex, and he would be able to do
the job?
I think some of the early steps were
done with innocent enough reasons.
You want your principal to look good.
But as his diminishment increased, some of those
actions became increasingly deceitful.
Because the fact is that the Biden that
we saw on the debate stage last June,
he had other moments like that behind the
scenes, and increasingly so.
And they started structuring his schedule, his public
schedule, to make sure that the public didn't
see it.
And even some people inside their own administration,
their own White House, their own cabinet, did
not see this.
Yeah, no one saw it.
No one saw it.
Remember how deceitful they were with the sharp
as attack?
The what?
Sharp as attack.
He's sharp as attack.
Oh, sharp as attack.
Yeah, he runs circles around you.
Yeah, sharp as attack, everybody.
Sharp as attack.
Speaking of circles.
As we all know, there's a difference between
the outer rung and then your inner circle.
And when it comes to proximity, the former
first lady, Joe Biden, is the closest to
him.
Yeah.
Do you believe that she was complicit in
this cover-up?
I think the main people complicit in hiding
the non-functioning Biden were President Biden, First
Lady Biden, Hunter Biden, and then his immediate
circle of aides that other people in the
White House called the Pollack Bureau, Mike Donilon,
Steve Ricchetti, and some others.
They were the ones who- Some others.
Afraid, afraid to mention Anita Dunn.
Pussy, he's afraid.
He's afraid.
Yeah, he knows.
I better not mention Dunn.
Donilon and Ricchetti are being roasted for this.
Donilon and Ricchetti are getting the brunt of
it.
Yeah, I agree.
Steve Ricchetti and some others.
They were the ones who saw President Biden
every day up close and personal and whether
they were lying to themselves and everybody else
or just everybody else.
And that is a big question.
I agree.
It's a big question.
There was no cover-up.
So one of those aides, Ricchetti, referred us
to the Biden team statement, which is there's
nothing in this book that shows Joe Biden
failed to do his job, nor did they
prove their allegation that there was a cover
-up or conspiracy.
Nowhere do they show that our national security
was threatened or President Biden wasn't otherwise engaged
in the important matters of the presidency.
But I think you do show.
I think we do.
I don't think he's read the book.
If he's not meeting with Cabinet members, if
they don't have direct access to him, if
he sometimes lights out at 5.15 or
dinner at 4.30, as you reported even
during the administration, I do genuinely wonder if
something had occurred of national concern, who was
making the decisions at that point?
Well, I'll just say we didn't make this
up.
The fact is that people outside the administration
told us this.
We had multiple Cabinet members that said if
there had been a crisis, especially in 2024,
late in the middle of the night, they
did not have confidence that Joe Biden would
necessarily be up to that task.
And as a result, you sort of have
the institutional aspects of the presidency that would
have probably tried to take hold.
You mentioned the other day that the 25th
Amendment is no good.
Should people like this who are very aware
of it, shouldn't they be held — I
mean, can you just call them traitors?
Can they be held accountable to any standard
for not disclosing what was really going on?
I think you can call them what you
want, but there's nothing you can do about
it.
I think they can publicly humiliate them as
far as it's going to get.
Because the rest of it, you could say,
make the comment.
In fact, I would use that as a
defense.
Hey, there was the 25th Amendment that we
could have done, and we didn't do it.
So we could have gotten rid of it
if we thought it was that bad.
So we were pretty sincere.
And if it was that bad, Congress could
have done it, because the 25th Amendment also
allows Congress to bypass the...
The way it's supposed to be done the
first round is the vice president goes to
the to the board of directors, which is
basically the administration.
It goes to the departments, the various...
The departments, the secretaries.
Hey, hey, hey, this guy's toast.
We've got to get rid of this guy.
And then they all vote OK, and they
kick him out.
But if the vice president doesn't do that,
Congress or the House of Representatives can do
it some way or other, but they still
have to get the secretaries to agree.
I'm not sure.
I'd have to look it over again.
But the point is I think you can
use that as a defense.
So this is...
I think this is season of reveal for
the American public, if they care to pay
attention.
Because it's exactly it.
It's like there's no accountability.
You don't know...
Now we know who was running the show.
We were lied to as the American public.
The news media did not do their job
no matter how...
The news media is the number one responsible
force here.
They're screwed up.
The people do not trust these guys anymore.
They listen to podcasts for their news.
You have enough people that tell us, oh,
you know, I don't even listen to this,
this is a podcast.
Why is that?
Because of our dark, soothing voices, I'm convinced.
Because we can talk about this.
That's right, everybody.
So of course it would not be CBS
if we didn't somehow turn this around and
make it about Trump.
You mentioned President Trump.
After writing a book like this, I would
assume it gives you a keen eye when
it comes to the cognitive and physical declination
of...
Now all of a sudden I got a
keen eye.
Now I know what to look for.
The guy who's a foot taller running towards
the helicopter.
Leaders, and you guys are well-sourced as
Gil mentioned, what are you hearing?
What do you see when it comes to
our current president?
Is he losing his mind?
Is he out of control?
What do you know?
Jake, you're the expert.
Trump.
I don't think...
We don't see any effort, any evidence of
any sort of deterioration cognitively.
I think the questions about Trump that have
always been raised have to do with his
personality, which is something that is very out
and in the open to the voters.
But to pick up on Alex's point, whether
you're talking about President Biden, President Trump, or
President Gayle King, I think that...
Choose another name.
Transparency.
Transparency is so important.
It is not required.
Presidents do not have to give their health
records to the American people.
And that needs to change.
It's unacceptable.
After this, there's no way that the American
people should tolerate this ever again.
There needs to be a law on the
books requiring full health disclosures, full health, under
oath, as Alex said.
Let's hope the doctors tell the truth, too.
That seems to require...
But because the doctors are not always fully...
No, like during COVID.
Exactly.
So no one can trust nobody.
That's the bottom line.
Great.
No one can trust nobody.
That's right.
By the way, we have to bring it...
The idea...
The daddy-long-legs thing is still...
It's pissing me off.
It's making me mad.
I think you have to bring it into
the conversation more.
Yes.
Because it is the thing...
Yeah, they're making all this mad couples, and
they're going into this and that, and, oh,
we missed this, we missed that, and no
one has brought that up.
Who was that guy?
I think it's one of the more obvious
things because we had this tall, skinny guy
wandering around.
Who was that guy?
Was it a mask?
These are my questions.
There's been no discussion of that technology, the
CIA mask.
Which we know is very advanced.
Because it was advanced in the 60s.
That's right.
Who was he?
Was it a mask?
And did you kill him?
Or is he available for parties, bar mitzvahs,
and weddings?
Because he's awesome.
He was pretty good.
He did a good job.
He should receive an Academy Award.
This guy should be...
Screw Zelensky.
This guy should be all, I played Joe
Biden for the entire world.
Oh, yeah.
You were awesome.
You were awesome, man.
You really had us fooled.
Except when you were running towards a helicopter
at eight feet tall.
So President Trump, of course, takes advantage of
this to put the fear of God into
certain people.
Do you want to respond to President Biden
being diagnosed with cancer?
Are you going to call your processor?
I think it's very sad, actually.
I think that if you take a look,
it's the same doctor that said that Joe
was cognitively fine.
There was nothing wrong with him.
Well, he said, if it's the same doctor
who said there was nothing wrong there, and
that's being proven to be a sad situation.
And the OtoPen is becoming a very big
deal.
You know, the OtoPen is becoming a big
deal because it seems like that maybe was
the president who ever operated the OtoPen.
But when they say that that was not
good, they also, you know, you have to
look and you have to say then the
test was not so good either.
In other words, there are things going on
that the public wasn't informed.
And I think somebody's going to have to
speak to his doctor if it's the same,
or even if it's two separate doctors.
Yeah, that's going to put the fear into
some people who got pardons.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
It was Anita Dunn who was controlling the
pen.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Oh, boy, I'm in trouble now.
He's not going to do anything.
Nothing's going to happen.
No, of course not.
But I think it's fun that he's putting
it out there.
But it will scare people.
People are easily freaked out.
Then this morning, it happened.
BBB used to be billed back better now
it's a big, beautiful bill.
On this vote, the yeas are 215, the
nays are 214, with one answering present.
The bill is passed.
Woo-hoo!
Yeah!
No tax on tips.
No tax on Social Security.
No tax on overtime.
No tax on nothing.
Of course...
Well, I'd like to know how the salt
thing was resolved.
Because one of the guys was made a
big fuss about it.
I do have some clips.
Well, hold on a second.
I want to play this short clip because
this wasn't going to happen until President Trump
went into the meeting.
He had a meeting with the Republicans of
the House.
And just so you know, it was a
meeting of love.
I think it was a really great...
That was a meeting of love.
Let me tell you, that was love in
that room.
There was no shouting.
I think it was a meeting of love.
There were a couple of things that we
talked about specifically where some people felt a
little bit one way or the other, not
a big deal.
Yeah, it was a great meeting.
The party is unified.
The House Republican Conference is excited.
Multiple standing ovations.
They love this president.
The people back home love what he's doing.
It's historic, and everybody understands the scope and
the meaning of this.
If we do not accomplish this mission, every
one of you, all the American people, are
going to have the highest tax increase that
you've ever had.
I think it was a great talk.
It wasn't a speech, we talked about things.
Who do you work for?
Nurse.
I don't even know what the hell that
is.
Get yourself a real job.
Where are you, nurse?
Where are you from?
Get yourself a real job.
Anyway, yes, a meeting of love.
Here's how I think the meeting went.
Hey, look at this picture.
What is that in your mouth?
That wasn't obvious.
You know Trump does that.
Where did he go when he showed a
picture of the guy's house?
Remember that?
Yeah, it was the Taliban guy.
Yeah, he said, hey, look at this.
What's this?
It's a picture of your house.
I think he had a little stack of
pictures, like, look at this, look at this,
look at this.
The way politics is always done in America.
If he did that to the Taliban guy,
you're right, that's probably the M.O. for
certain people.
Not everybody's happy.
Massey, of course, is very unhappy about this.
Massey's always unhappy.
Well, I mean, what he's unhappy about is
the $4 trillion increase in the debt ceiling.
And he should be.
By the way, I heard you and Horowitz
talking about this on the show.
Oh, you actually listened.
Yes, and I have something to say.
Horowitz, keep my wife's name out of your
mouth.
Stop making me laugh.
Be very, very careful, Horowitz.
I'm not digging that.
Who do you think you are?
He's like, oh, I'm hitting on Tina.
What?
What?
As my mom would say, you're skating on
thin ice, Florida man.
All right, yes.
Well, I'm the one, of course, who instigated
the whole thing.
You're stoking this.
Of course you are.
You love it.
You've got nothing better to do.
I'm a terrible person.
That's why I always say, don't want me
working in an office, please.
I know, I had you in my office.
You're Switzerland between two shows.
You're getting away.
Yeah, I'm neutral.
Woe is the day that Horowitz and I
make up and team up against you.
By the way, I always love when Bitcoin
goes down, you guys are like, oh, it's
supposed to be a hedge.
What is this stupid Bitcoin?
Good, and now it's like 112.
Wow, that's going quite well, isn't it?
Looking good.
Oh, no, it's because of Coinbase.
They're in the S&P, Coinbase.
Please, you guys.
I liked that analysis when you said that.
Yeah, please, be consistent.
It's the $4 trillion, that's what's doing it.
Oh, you're printing more money, hello.
That's what's going on there.
I want to get this out of the
way, because this is important.
They always say that the rich are somehow
benefiting from Trump tax cuts for the rich.
It's bullcrap, and they had nothing but trouble
getting the SALT stuff through.
SALT is state and local taxes.
In other words, I'm in California.
You pay 13%, I think?
I have to pay 13% to the
state of California, and I don't get to
deduct that from the federal.
Now, can I ask you a question?
Does SALT also include your mortgage deduction, your
interest, mortgage interest deduction, or does that not
change?
I don't think so.
That's another issue, because they put a cap
on that, but they raised the cap on
that.
They raised it on that too?
No, they raised it on...
That was always going to get raised to
$40,000.
$40,000?
From $10,000.
Wow.
If you own some properties, you end up...
I know.
I know.
Time to get a bigger house.
Yes, that's my motto.
So let's just get a little background on
this, because it's kind of interesting.
I thought it may be beside the point
at this point, but let's play SALT Support
NPR.
Last week on this program, we heard from
Representative Mike Lawler of New York State, one
of the Republicans who want to restore a
federal tax deduction for state and local taxes.
Here's what he said then.
As I've said for over two years since
coming to Congress, if there was not a
fix for SALT, I would not support any
tax bill that came before me.
I've been loud and clear about that.
Yesterday, President Trump addressed this issue.
He said he doesn't like the SALT tax
deduction as it's called, because he said it
would benefit, quote, Democrat states.
Representative Lawler is back on the line from
New York.
Representative, good morning.
Good morning, Steve.
Thanks for having me.
Thanks for joining us again.
The President doesn't sound like he's interested at
all in your priority anymore.
What does that mean for your vote?
Well, I think the President obviously is anxious
to get a bill passed.
We are in the final stages of negotiating
that through the House.
And then, as your report just mentioned, it
goes to the Senate.
So, the President wants us to come to
a good afternoon and into the evening meeting
with the Speaker and coming to terms on
an agreement.
But we're still working through some of the
finer points, and I suspect today we'll be
in a much stronger position.
Do you mean to say that you think
you're going to get the SALT tax deduction
or some variant of it or some portion
of it?
Oh, we are.
So, just so I understand, I live in
a state where there's no state income tax.
We do have rather high sales tax and
real estate tax, which pays for beautiful roads.
Everything's good.
Everything's fine.
Everything functions.
We have chemtrails.
Abbott, something's got to change.
So, what's happening here is when you get
to deduct your 13%, that comes out of
my pocket, does it not?
Oh, yeah.
It comes right out of your pocket.
Indirectly.
We're coming in there.
We're looking for you, and we're going to
hit you over the head with us.
Oh, spoken like a true Cali commie.
Come on, now.
It's the truth.
If you get to deduct it, then that's
coming out of...
Why should I be double-taxed, is the
question.
Do you think it's fair?
No, I don't.
I get a dollar, and I get taxed
like 13 cents for the dollar, and then
I have to pay taxes another 30%.
I understand your issue, and you are correct,
sir.
However, your state should not be levying tax
against you.
Instead, you're going to deduct it from the
money you pay into the big pot that
I pay into as well.
I do have a small if-you with
that, because you should move out of California.
Why?
Because of the 13% tax.
I'd like the weather.
You'd love Texas.
I don't like it that hot.
I do like Texas weather.
I have no complaints about it, but they're
also...
they still have tornadoes and other issues.
You're just making it climate change now, whereas
I have a point.
It's okay, but that means we are picking
up the slack for states like California who
are out of control.
You can deduct your property tax, and you
can deduct your sales tax.
Some people do that.
I don't know anybody I know does it,
but I know people that can do it
and have done it.
TurboTax has some formula where they just say,
yeah, you probably paid this much.
We'll deduct it.
Which is great.
TurboTax.
That's generally acceptable.
These formulas are accepted by the IRS.
They're pretty liberal about it.
But you get to deduct that, too.
My sales tax isn't what yours is.
It's less.
Also, property taxes are reasonable because we have
Prop 13, which keeps people from having their
property taxes jacked up every year by some
maniac, which happens in Washington state and elsewhere.
We don't have that in California, luckily.
How groovy.
It is groovy.
You have to remember NPR, this guy is
reasonable.
This Republican from New York.
NPR has to get some digs in on
Trump.
He backs him off pretty well.
This is pretty good back and forth.
New York's tax burden is the highest in
the country.
The governor just increased state spending by double
-digit billion dollars, up $100 billion in a
decade.
These are unsustainable levels, and that's what the
president was referencing.
Forgive me, I just want to get one
more thing in here.
We heard earlier today from Greg Kassar, one
of your Democratic colleagues.
He's from Texas.
Austin loser.
He's talking about this budget bill, talking about
the Medicaid cuts or savings, and he asserts
that the cuts will affect healthcare for real
people, including in a red state like his.
Let's listen.
What they're talking about is closing rural hospitals.
Closing addiction treatment centers.
No, they're not.
Leaving 4 million school-aged kids without food
assistance.
It's horrible, but we can still stop it.
When he says rural hospitals, I immediately think
of one that I know about in upstate
New York that's forever in danger of closing.
This is a constant problem across the United
States.
How would you protect rural hospitals as you
cut back, scale back Medicaid, which many of
them depend on?
Greg Kassar, by the way, is a massive,
massive communist.
Yeah, he's obviously a communist, and I like
the way the NPR guy, the guy is
talking about Hoeckel jacking up the revenues for
New York by $100 billion and he cuts
him off to throw in the communist guy,
who sounds like a woman by the way,
in terms of his pitch.
He probably had a vasectomy.
He led the workers' defense project.
Certified communist this guy.
That was so Austin.
He was on the Austin City Council.
Worst guy ever.
He brings all this stuff in because it's
got a lot of anti-Trump messaging.
And the New York guy backs it off
pretty nicely.
He did.
Here's where he really does it.
The focus of the reforms in the bill
is to slow the rate of growth and
make sure that those who are not eligible
do not receive benefits, i.e. illegal immigrants,
people who are no longer eligible should not
remain on the program for up to a
year, which is what the Biden administration allowed,
as well as work requirements for able-bodied
adults.
When it comes to food assistance, it's a
cost share.
It is having the states have some skin
in the game.
Starting with a 5% share.
Right now they pay 0% share for
the cost.
This is about slowing the rate of growth.
Medicaid is going to expand by 24%
over the 10-year window of this bill.
It is not a major cut, but in
fact, slowing the rate of growth.
Congressman Mike Lawler, Republican of New York, always
a pleasure talking with you.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
That's the lie about the, oh, they're going
to cut your Medicare, they're going to cut
this, cut that.
That's not true.
They're going to make you actually go look
for a job.
Well, not only that, but they're not cutting
it.
They're cutting the growth.
Yes, which has grown 100% in like
five years or something.
I think it's because of fraud.
If they put some police on the job,
in other words, you put an enforcement agency
together and then tack it on to the
operation with some teeth.
Billy clubs.
Go in there and wrap some knuckles, knock
on some doors.
Hey, walk across the room.
You got no problem.
You can walk on those stumps.
If you do some enforcement, you would have
less fraud and then you would save a
lot of money.
Yeah, the fraud is rampant.
It's like a pain in the ass to
put together an agency or an enforcement division.
Maybe they should get rid of those ads
for those phony baloney phones that, you know,
oh, it'll cost you nothing.
Where you have an anonymous Indian transcribing the
call in the background.
Yeah, those phones.
Get rid of all that nonsense.
The back braces, all these things.
Oh, it'll cost you nothing.
Yeah, there's a bunch of those.
I get calls every so often from one
of these operations.
Hey, you can get a free this or
a free that.
Just sign up.
A free walking stick.
A free shillelagh.
A shillelagh?
Do you know what a shillelagh is?
No, what's a shillelagh?
That's interesting.
I've heard the word.
What's a shillelagh?
It's like a big stick that the Irish
walk around with.
Ah, shillelagh.
I like the shillelagh.
You could get one of those scooters.
One of those dry run on Walmart.
I'm on a hill.
That'd be really funny to watch.
Next time you're in Walmart, just get on
one of those and take a picture.
That'd be hilarious.
One of those electric scooters.
What are they called?
I don't know.
They're called electric scooters.
Talking about Medicaid cuts.
I got Medicaid cuts.
They'd be like, you don't need Medicaid.
You're a podcaster.
What's your problem?
Two clips.
Oh, hold on a second.
Medicaid, Medicaid.
Medicaid cuts.
I'm looking under M.
Medicaid cuts.
I'm looking under M.
I don't see anything with Medicaid.
There's like Medicaid II, there's Medicaid cuts NTD,
and there's medical nuisance scale.
John, I'm telling you I do not have
these.
What is going on?
There's M's.
I'm looking at the M's.
Were these your bonus clips?
Did I put them in the wrong?
No.
I have Magna Carta, Magna Carta tail, Malema,
Malema, Malema, Qatar.
I don't have Medicare.
Under the M.
I don't.
Well, then it got misorganized because it was
sent with the rest of them.
It wasn't sent separately.
I'm just telling you.
Do you have Nintendo Gripe?
Nope.
Did you send one batch or two batches?
Hold on.
I love it how you blame me.
I blame you.
It's your fault.
Blame it on the podcaster.
No, I don't have these clips.
Never mind.
Well, you want to send them to me
real quick?
I'll be happy to add them in.
I got better material with the Doge attack.
Okay, well first let me talk about a
different attack because this was completely predictable.
Knew it was going to happen.
No surprise that the Jew hate has reached
its epic levels.
It's a good story.
Well, it's not a good story.
It's a very bad story.
Overnight, police in Washington, D.C. investigating the
deadly shooting of two Israeli embassy staff members.
Authorities say the man and woman were shot
at close range as they were leaving the
Capitol Jewish Museum.
Prior to the shooting, the suspect was observed
pacing back and forth outside of the museum.
He approached a group of four people, produced
a handgun and opened fire, striking both of
our decedents.
After the shooting, the suspect then entered the
museum and was detained by event security.
After the shooting, a man in custody inside
the museum was heard chanting support of Palestinians.
Free Palestine!
He implied that he committed the offense.
The suspect chanted free, free Palestine while in
custody.
One witness says she gave the man water
unaware of what had unfolded.
We offered him water and he was like,
yeah, that'll be great, actually.
That's when he reaches into his backpack and
pulls out a keffiyeh and says, I did
it.
I did this for Gaza.
The shooting suspect identified as 30-year-old
Elias Rodriguez of Chicago.
Police say they had no prior interactions with
him.
The American Jewish Committee was hosting an event
at the museum celebrating Jewish heritage at the
time of the shooting.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying this was
a brazen act of cowardly anti-Semitic violence.
Israel's ambassador to the UN calling it, quote,
a depraved act of anti-Semitic terrorism, saying
the young embassy staffers killed were a couple
who were planning to get married.
There you go.
Completely predictable.
And what brought that on, you think?
Media pushing the Palestine protest.
Yep.
Colleges pushing Palestine, Palestine, Palestine, South Africa.
Yep.
Well, you know, next time it'll be a
right winger.
It's just going to keep on happening.
And I know a lot of Jewish people.
They're very worried.
They're like, oh, this is no good.
It is no good.
You can't go shooting people like that just
because of some political purpose, for political purposes.
Because you, an American living in Chicago, want
to free Palestine?
What do you got to do with it?
It's ideological at this point.
It's not political.
It's ideological.
Yeah.
So, all right.
Well, there you go.
That's not good news.
I don't know why you said it was
a good story.
It's a good story.
It's not a good story.
It's a horrible story.
It's not good news.
But that does bring us to ideologies.
I did pick up, I did listen to
a Financial Times podcast that had Steve Bannon.
Bannon back on the beat.
Do I have this clip?
Yeah, it's called Bannon.
It's one of the bonus clips.
Yes, I have Bannon.
I have Bannon.
You ready?
This is interesting.
This is about the Pope.
I recommend it.
I'm sorry.
Was that a cue?
I'm sorry.
Just play.
I'm sorry.
I recommend it.
By the way, just so you know, there
are already trolls who are saying it was
fake.
It was a fake shooting.
It wasn't real.
It wasn't real.
Yeah, the trolls are trolls.
Yeah.
I recommend it.
He come back strong in that.
And Bergoglio the entire time has been very
anti-Trump.
But that's not the...
It's not just being anti-Mega.
He keeps referring to the previous Pope Francis
as Bergoglio, which is his real name.
And he also refers to the new Pope
by his former name too.
I recommend it.
He come back strong in that.
And Bergoglio the entire time has been very
anti-Trump.
But that's not the...
It's not just being anti-Mega, anti-Trump.
That's the politics of it.
And Prevost is a continuation.
But it is for the traditional Catholics in
the crowd, the Latin mass Catholics, the pre
-Vatican II Catholics, we're close to a schism
in the church between Bergoglio in this kind
of radical way he's taking it and Prevost.
What my research found, we have lots of
contacts in the Curia.
We have lots of contacts in the Vatican.
I've spent a lot of time in Italy.
We had a monastery that we actually owned
before the government took it away from us
to be kind of a counter to what
was going on in the Vatican.
So we have a broad network of the
traditionalists.
And Prevost...
And I'm saying this.
The conclave for the Pope was more rigged
than the 2020 election.
Now...
Why did I say...
Let me back up some facts.
On Piers Morgan's show 10 days before the
conclave started, I called.
I said, Prevost is the dark horse.
He wasn't in any betting pool.
If you look at Italian TV, nowhere.
The reason is, not only is the...
Okay, I just got to stop for a
second.
He didn't call it.
He mentioned a couple of names and he
said there were several dark horses.
He did not call it.
I'm just saying that because I got it
wrong, but I got it right once before.
He didn't call anything.
Let me back up some facts.
On Piers Morgan's show 10 days before the
conclave started, I called.
I said, Prevost is the dark horse.
He wasn't in any betting pool.
If you look at Italian TV, nowhere.
The reason is, not only is the...
He's only been a Cardinal less than two
years.
He was the perfect acolyte for Bergoglio to
continue his thing on the front page of
the New York Times.
It says that today, if you read the
whole huge front page story.
More importantly, because of our efforts and other...
Because the traditional church in America is on
fire with vocations and young people and vibrancy
and urgency that we helped cut off the
money going to the Vatican.
The Wall Street Journal had a huge article
this week that showed the Vatican has tons
of assets, but they're illiquid.
They need the American cash.
They would never put a traditional American in
that role because they think the American church
has too much power.
Prevost, what is going to be the contact
for the big American donors?
No, I think he's right.
I think he nails it with that.
I don't know how a private election can
be rigged.
I don't know about that, but...
Well, I like the way he put it.
Speaking of rigged elections, let's go check out
Romania.
Having conceded defeat on Sunday night, George Simeon,
following pressure from his supporters on TikTok, will
now sue to get the presidential election results
cancelled, citing interference by France.
International observers saw interference not only from the
Republic of Moldova, but also from the French
state.
Social media was manipulated and algorithms were used
to influence Romanian citizens.
The pro-Russia candidate was relaying accusations by
Pavel Durov, co-founder of Telegram, who has
said he's willing to testify.
Durov took to the social media platform X
on Sunday to directly accuse French intelligence services.
This spring at the Salon des Batailles in
the Hôtel de Crillon, Nicolas Lerner, head of
French intelligence, asked me to ban conservative voices
in Romania ahead of elections.
I refused.
We didn't block protesters in Russia, Belarus or
Iran.
We won't start doing it in Europe.
Allegations which French intelligence, which has admitted meeting
Durov on several occasions, took the unusual step
of denying.
The Directorate General for External Security strongly refutes
allegations that it made any requests for accounts
in relation to any electoral process to be
banned.
Mm-hmm.
I totally believe they did that.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah, well, that guy even said before, he
said, France is meddling here.
He said it the first three times they
voted.
He said, France is meddling.
They're gonna just keep voting and keep voting
until they get the right guy in there.
Until they get the right guy.
It's worse than the EU.
Well, it's pretty much the same people.
The same people running the show.
Yeah.
That's great.
It's great.
Look at the world around you, man.
It's great.
We're podcasting.
Everybody's happy.
Except Joe.
Or that Daddy Longlegs.
He's hiding out somewhere.
Daddy Longlegs, since you brought it up, has
just been bugging me now.
Yeah, it's very annoying.
Because they have these two jokers that especially
Tapper has been on show after show after
show after show.
Yeah.
And not one reporter has even broached the
topic of a fake Biden.
Because if they broach that topic and the
mask story comes out, well, then no one
will believe anything again.
Everybody will be a dude and a mask.
What you're saying is a gentleman's agreement with
the intelligence agencies.
I think so.
To shut up.
We know that Tapper is at the birthday
parties.
We had one of our producers catered the
deputy CIA director's birthday party and Tapper was
there hanging out, not reporting.
Oh, I think yeah, a gentleman's agreement which
is like, hey, Jake, look at this picture.
Get out of the set in your mouth.
And with that, I want to thank you
for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man
who put the sea in the Cali commie.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.
DeMora.
Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
In the morning, all the ships and sea
boots on the ground, feeding the air, subs
in the water and all the dames and
knights out there.
Come on, here we go.
Counting it up.
1874.
That's not too bad.
It's a Memorial Day weekend, right?
Isn't this the long weekend?
Today's Thursday.
That's what I mean.
Everyone's taking the Thursday and Friday off.
They're already on vacation.
No one's working anymore.
Well, smart money.
Smart money.
Not podcasters.
No, no, no, no, no.
Those trolls are in the troll room.
You can find them at trollroom.io and
many of them may be listening to the
live stream on a modern podcast app, which
you definitely want to try by going to
podcastapps.com because you'll never find a show
being deplatformed from there because it is all
connected to the podcast index, which I personally
make sure does not deplatform or remove anybody
or anything.
And just to prove my point, Brennan sent
me an email Monday.
He says, Pandora disappointed me this morning.
I went like I do every Monday to
listen to Sunday's show and none of the
shows are on there at all.
I'm not sure if they cut the cord,
but I figured you should know.
Like Brennan, how many times do I have
to tell you?
Get a modern podcast app, Pandora.
Are they still in business?
Yeah, I think they're public.
They're a public company.
So no, get a modern podcast app.
Support independent developers.
Don't kowtow to big tech.
Don't kowtow to big tech.
That should be the motto of the show.
Yeah, I don't.
No, you don't.
Use a phone.
You don't even have a...
But if you had one, it would be
one of those nice Samsung flip phones.
We all know that.
All those Samsung flip phones are unbelievable.
Yeah, they are.
Stop texting me people.
Texting me on my light phone.
Yes, so that's the trolls and then, of
course, we want to make note of the
fact that when we do this show, you
notice no commercials.
Did you notice that?
No commercials.
No pre-rolls.
We're talking about something and talking about the
Pope and then all of a sudden, gold!
Yeah, you can get gold for your IRA.
Get these gold coins.
These gold coins.
You're only going to pay 50% above
spot price of gold, but hey, they're limited
edition.
Get them now while stocks last.
We'll help you roll over your IRA, old
person.
You know, I've been wanting to put a
series of clips together of the segues.
Like Mark Levin, for example.
He'll be talking about something very serious and
segue right into a gold plug.
Bill O'Reilly is the worst.
He has the Bill O'Reilly morning update.
He has another guy.
He has the Bill O'Reilly update for
Monday.
Here's Chip, and Chip will tell you what's
going on.
Bill O'Reilly's not there.
Chip does the news.
Now, we'll be right back after Bill talks
to you.
Then O'Reilly comes in and says, troubling
times right now.
We know what's going to happen with the
tariffs, with the economy.
That's why I trust gold.
He does it like a news story.
It's like a news story.
It's like a native ad.
It just slips it right in.
What happens is you wind up buying specialty
gold coins, which are limited by the people
selling you the gold coins because they mint
them.
They do that through Australia so they don't
get in trouble for this obvious I'm just
going to call it a scam.
I'm not an expert, but that's my opinion.
You're paying 25% above the price of
the actual gold contained in the coin.
I think the podcaster gets 5%.
There's so much money going around.
There's got to be good money.
We are stupid.
Well, we're not stupid.
No, we're not.
We're honest.
For example, when I was in high school,
I used to be known as Honest John.
Exactly.
And why was that in high school specifically?
Because that's where I can start to remember
things.
Okay.
That's pretty funny.
No, so we don't do that.
There's no levels, no hoops to jump through.
If you want to buy premium gold, collect
classic Americana gold, real Liberty coins, the ones
America minted back in the 1800s, they're around.
And find a reputable dealer who will sell
them to you at the market price of
what these collectible coins are worth.
You have the gold and you have a
collectible item that's not going to...
But because it's collectible, you're paying above the
actual price of gold contained in it.
I'm just saying, if you're going to pay
above spot gold price, you can just buy
gold if you want to, buy a bar.
Buy a bar of gold, exactly.
But this is being sold to people who
have no idea about the mnemastic value.
I'm not recommending people buy a bar of
gold because the only guy I know that
ever bought a bar of gold ended up
losing it in some divorce settlement.
And I bought it at the time $750
an ounce.
It's tripled.
More than that.
It's quadrupled.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Don't worry.
The person who got it squandered it right
away.
Anyway, one of the many ways that you
can support us for the work that we
do is...
Well, there's three ways, actually.
Time, talent, and treasure.
And we always love the treasure.
We do need the treasure.
However, doing stuff for the show is also
important.
So, when someone does a boots on the
ground, hitting people in the mouth, calling out
people as douchebags for not donating, all these
things are of high importance.
But we also have the artists and the
artists sometimes prompt jockeys.
But, again, I have a statement about AI.
Uh-oh.
Yeah, I have a statement about it.
Is it something you read?
Is it on a piece of paper?
No, it's not on a piece of paper.
I've been vibe coding and I finally got
my project done.
Spent about 250 hours.
Any competent coder could have done this in
10.
And it's true.
And the worst is, like, the AI will
take you down a rabbit hole and will
not...
It doesn't remember.
It has no common sense.
It makes mistakes that if you don't catch
them, if you're not reading...
If you're just like, fix this, fix this,
fix this, it winds up ruining everything.
You better have backup copies.
Otherwise, you have to go, no, this worked.
And now you broke it.
So, you need AI to use AI.
In order to use artificial intelligence, you need
almighty intelligence.
That is my statement.
And if you got that like digital 2
-1-2 2-1-1-2 man, then
you can come up with something decent.
But it's not just going to do it
by itself for yourself.
Not a single AI will create an image
or code or marketing document or resume or
anything.
If you don't know what you're doing, it's
not going to do a good job.
Yeah, that's what everyone says.
That's why the artists that do the best
AI art are artists.
Like Darren O'Neill, the true artist.
He's been using his easel and oils ever
since he was a child.
Digital 2-1-1-2 man brought us
the artwork for episode 1765.
We titled that Pro-Mortalist.
And this is Adam and John at the
climate desk.
And we look very happy about it.
Yes, we do.
I wasn't crazy about it.
No, you didn't like the piece, really.
I'm the one who put...
I would take full credit for promoting this
piece.
And the reason I used the rationale is
we were sick of Darren winning all the
time.
It's one thing.
As long as it's not Darren.
You did say that.
I think I actually heard you say that.
By the way, he's on the all-time
leaderboard.
He's moving up, but he's not quite there.
It's crazy.
I just liked the composition of the piece.
I thought it was pretty.
It was joyful.
Which is important.
It just was cute.
It was a cute piece.
I really like this piece.
I personally liked the beach walk, which was
no agenda.
Shells on the beach.
Of course, that totally was a callback to
Comey.
Comey.
And you said it was too small and
didn't read.
Well, that's because here's why.
I saw that piece and thought, oh, that's
kind of a cute piece.
I didn't notice it was shells.
Because it wasn't obvious.
Because you had to blow it up.
Oh, shells.
I didn't get the joke until you actually
explained it.
Because it was too small.
The shells are too small.
The joke is lost.
Because of the sizing thing.
The good news is, because of this discussion,
I can play the donation bonus clip.
How about that?
I'm all in.
This is Comey with Colbert.
What is the show?
The Colbert show?
The Colbert this evening something show.
To him, Colbert running cover for Comey.
This is so...
Colbert is pathetic.
56 seconds of lies.
What happened?
You were walking on the beach and you
saw this on the beach?
Yeah, my wife and I, Patrice, were walking
on the beach and saw those numbers in
shells on the beach.
You didn't do this.
Somebody else did this.
Yeah, somebody else did it.
We were on a walk, preparing for this
week to roll out of my book.
She looked at it and said, why'd someone
put their address in the sand?
And then we stood at it, looked at
it, trying to figure out what it was
and she'd long been a server in restaurants
and she said, you know what I think
it is?
I think it's a reference to restaurants when
you would 86 something in a restaurant.
Right, it's off the menu.
I remember when I was a kid, you'd
say 86 to get out of a place.
This place stinks, let's 86 it.
I was a bartender.
You would 86 a customer if they were
getting drunk.
Give them a low proof alcohol, something like
that.
And so I said, I think it's a
clever political message.
And she said, you should take a picture
of it.
I said, sure.
And then she said, you should Instagram that.
And boom.
And boom.
I'm on all the shows to promote my
stupid book.
He always gets the book mentioned in early,
but the thing is, I forgot one of
the shows, I heard this, that they researched
his wife and she's never worked in a
restaurant.
It's bullcrap.
Well, he blamed his wife, which is low.
Oh, my wife told me to do it.
Yeah, that is kind of low.
That's lame.
That's lame.
You botch.
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Love the show.
Please wish my beautiful wife Danielle not Danielle,
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And he wants a jobs karma.
And he has a P.S. here.
I heard Adam say on a recent podcast
that food items from non-commercial entities are
discarded.
I didn't say exactly that.
I said I don't eat brownies that people
send me.
Let me know if you want.
I will send you some salsa from my
garden.
Hardball at AOL.
Hey, Hardball.
So I'd try some salsa from his garden.
Would you try the salsa from his garden?
You can't grow salsa.
Well, it's from his garden.
Here's your jobs karma.
Jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
I'm sure he grows the ingredients in his
garden and that's what he's referring to.
Sir Jan or Sir Jan, what would it
be in Amsterdam?
Sir Jan.
Sir Jan.
Sir Jan in Amsterdam, Holland, 333.33. Keep
up the good work, he writes.
Love from Sir Jan, the innkeeper of Amsterdam.
I want to get us a free room.
He actually, he has offered me that.
He has offered me a free room several
times.
What does he own?
A hotel or a big house or a
bread and bread bar?
A small hotel.
Small hotel, that's perfect.
Boutique hotel in the center of Amsterdam.
Over by the old town?
Literally in the center where the dam is.
So in the center, I think that's who
it is.
I'm pretty sure.
And 333.
I now have his email.
Yeah, you do.
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Happy 33rd birthday to Kaya.
I know it's going to be a magical
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Less than taken, less than symbol three, which
is a heart.
XOXO, Jay Lowe.
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Executive producer ship for Ryan Nadeau from Bozeman,
Montana.
221.21 Hey guys, with this donation, I've
made it to knighthood.
John, sports ball sweatshirts are another form of
shit coin.
You should be asking for Bitcoin merch from
the upcoming conference in Vegas next week.
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Sir Pliny.
Sir Pliny.
Why is it Pliny?
It goes back to Pliny the elder and
Pliny the younger.
Sir Pliny the hodler.
Nothing for me at the round table so
Adam can save money to stock more sats.
That's right.
I've been stacking since it was under 3500.
I'm stacking away.
Ah, Eli the coffee guy, Bensonville, Illinois favorite.
205.22 in the morning he writes.
This week has certainly been jam packed with
news.
Joe Biden's turbo cancer, the congressional report on
the dangers of the COVID vaccine and a
lovely sit down with Trump and the South
African president.
Plus so much more.
Thank you, John and Adam for providing excellent
deconstruction of it all.
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that are working hard for producers who want
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Thank you for your courage and stay caffeinated
says Eli the coffee guy.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Well, I have all the luck with the
notes today.
Circumcision from Blaine Washington sends us $200 associate
executive producer and he has a very long
note which I'm going to have to edit
on the fly.
But he says ITM gents, John, you mentioned
the Kilpatrick's bread bakery in San Francisco in
your Bill Maher segment a few shows ago
about how fast food corporations don't change their
winning recipes.
You made a couple of comments.
First, dismissing Maher's inept observation that recipes don't
change then a seg into the early air
bread craze of the 60s and how the
McDonald's buns made the Kilpatrick bakery made at
the Kilpatrick bakery would get score marks to
make them look risen.
Your trip down memory lane in the Kilpatrick
bread bakery jarred some ancient memory in my
head.
It's a long memory.
At the risk of sounding like a boomer,
you're there.
This is a boomer note.
I had indeed toured the Kilpatrick's factory with
my folks as some sort of get the
kids out of the house and try to
make it educational day probably 70 or 71.
I distinctly remember getting the paper Kilpatrick bakery
hat like the workers wore at the end
of the tour and a loaf of magical
Kilpatrick air bread puffy and vacuous as God
intended.
It is said the Kilpatrick aficionados would deride
wonder bread as inedible, brushing it off as
an inferior product.
And then he talks about how he was
slipping back in time.
You could smell it.
He was...
Anyway, he says, thank you for taking me
back to those halcyon days of the late
60s, early 70s of the SF Bay Area.
It's a crap hole, nothing like it used
to be then.
What a wonderful time to be alive in
the Bay, long before Big Tech took any
shred of character left from my beloved boyhood
home.
Well, here's your well-deserved San Francisco Kilpatrick
bread bakery shout-out donation.
Thank you for your courage and the memory.
Circumcision of the 10% off night of
the fourth corner in Blaine, Washington.
That's a very...
That's a nice note.
I like that he traveled back in time.
That's what the power of the podcast is.
If you're not watching some dudes on YouTube,
but Tina said that the other night she
couldn't sleep, she was on the couch.
She's like, I'm listening to some scripture.
And she made the mistake of listening to
it on YouTube.
It was like mark four or something all
of a sudden.
Gold!
Gold!
You need to buy some gold!
Right in the middle of it.
Right in the middle of it.
It was like you made a mistake.
You made a mistake doing that.
By the way, in the business it was
called balloon bread.
Balloon bread.
Just to get that straight.
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Karma.
And then we have is this our final
associate executive producer?
Yes, it is.
Joseph Dorfel.
Smyrna, Tennessee.
Ah, we know Joseph Dorfel from the Dorfels.
Very famous family.
Adam and John, thank you for your courage.
I've been an avid listener of the show
for the last two years, slovenly absorbing the
exquisite decadence known as your premium content.
The last three shows have pushed me over
the mountain of douchebaggery and I've started my
journey towards knighthood.
As a seasoned veteran of the Amazon slave
gang, I've seen firsthand the infiltration of DEI
and the tightening noose of the economy as
my generation falls ever deeper into the abyss
of sheep-dumb D-U-M-B.
Alas, I've been slowly and steadily hitting others
like me in the mouth, striving to grow
the movement to end the sad puppy.
Adam, I listen to Curry and the Keeper
and hate to correct you, but I am
in fact one of the Dorfel band members.
I knew that.
I humbly request Baby Making Karma F-35
Scream and he also wants some chemtrails for
his jingles.
Hold on a second.
I've been trying to avoid the chemtrails because
they've been bad here the past few weeks.
So we'll give all of that to you
here in this little compilation.
Chemtrails.
What in the world is this?
You've got it.
Karma.
Thank you, Joe.
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Damn Bongino, 2022.
Do you need a harp to go back
in time?
You could do that.
I think the harp would actually be a
nice touch.
Here we go.
Going back in time.
Damn Bongino 2022.
Listen, that Jeffrey Epstein story is a big
deal.
Please do not let that story go.
Keep your eye on this.
Katherine Rumler, we need to keep the heat
on this case, folks.
There are a lot of people who are
knee deep in the Washington swamp, who are
not telling you the truth about serious allegations
out there that Epstein may have had video
and audio of people out there doing things
they shouldn't have been doing.
And you should be asking yourself the question,
how is it that all these people, the
CIA director, the Obama fixer, Bill Clinton, all
intersected past with Jeffrey Epstein?
Jeffrey Epstein isn't with us anymore, and nobody
seems to want to talk about it, outside
of a few entrepreneurial media outlets saying, hey,
this is a big deal.
And we come back.
Wow, Dan Bongino, pretty hot there about who
killed Epstein.
We had songs, we had jokes, we had
t-shirts.
Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
Everybody was saying it.
Yeah, here's Dan Bongino last week.
He killed himself.
Again, you want me to get, I've seen
the whole file.
He killed himself.
What's interesting about this is this is such
a distraction.
Who cares?
Show me the tapes.
Show me what happened.
Show me the client list.
Show me anything.
Now everyone's running around like, oh, can't trust
him.
Oh, shills.
Everything's a shill.
Probably Trump.
Trump's a bad.
Show me the daddy long legs with the
mask.
It's all fake.
What did the kids say?
Fake and gay.
G-E-Y-H.
Fake and gay.
So NPR did a thing.
They attacked Doge.
Oh, no.
A Doge attack.
Doge attack.
I got a two-parter.
Okay.
I guess the first parter is faux attack.
What?
The first part of the two-parter is
faux attack.
I thought I corrected that before I shipped
it in.
Yeah, you sent it with those other clips.
You have two shipments, man.
I don't know who got the other one,
but it wouldn't be.
We report on the broad reach of a
government effort set up by Elon Musk.
The ad hoc department of government efficiency keeps
finding parts of the federal government to try
to shrink.
Hold on.
Ad hoc is a lie.
It's the digital services department, isn't it?
That's not ad hoc.
I think pretty much.
Yeah, that's a lie.
No, ad hoc makes it, you made it
up as you're going.
Oh, let's just put a, come on kids,
let's do a show.
We report on the broad reach of a
government effort set up by Elon Musk.
The ad hoc department of government efficiency keeps
finding new parts of the federal government to
try to shrink.
A new analysis by NPR found at least
40 agencies and groups that Doge has tried
to cut in recent weeks.
NPR's Stephen Fowler is covering all of this
and is online.
Hi there, Stephen.
Good morning.
So who's getting a knock on the door
here?
Well, the knock is often an email from
one of a few Doge staffers based in
the general services administration.
They're seeking to learn more about operations and
to embed a team within the organization.
Now, some of them have already been effectively
dismantled by Doge, like the Millennium Challenge Corporation.
Some of them have been targeted for elimination
by the president in his proposal for next
year's budget, like AmeriCorps.
The outreach has been to this constellation of
commissions, boards, and entities that are all small
and independent.
Well, how have some of these dozens of
entities responded?
After the email, in many of these places,
Doge has moved quickly.
At the Advisory Council on Historic Preservation, for
example, in less than one week, an email
led to a video call, led to an
in-person meeting, and now a Doge team
is being onboarded.
On April 17th alone, Doge staffers scheduled meetings
with officials from the Truman Scholarship Foundation, the
Denali Commission, the Office of Navajo and Hopi
Indian Relocation, and the U.S. Access Board.
And that's according to two sources not authorized
to speak about Doge's operations.
I guess we should mention different laws apply
to different organizations, which themselves are organized differently.
Could they just say no thanks to Doge's
requests?
Some of them already have, because these Doge
folks have also tried to reach out to
organizations that aren't government agencies at all, like
the private non-profit Vera Institute of Justice,
the independent non-profit Corporation for Public Broadcasting,
and the Government Accountability Office, which is part
of the legislative branch.
Buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh.
What did I learn here?
You learned that they don't care.
It's like what you learned is nobody cares.
They're mocking this basically.
Nobody wants to do anything about all this
government waste, but they bitch and moan about
the ridiculous Doge deficit that we have.
Yes, yes.
But OK, let's play part two.
How legal is any of this?
There are more than a dozen lawsuits that
have been filed related to Doge efforts at
these small organizations that say it's not legal.
By and large, these are places that have
been created by Congress, many of them non
-profits, and nearly all of them do have
their funding and functions spelled out by law,
and some of those cases explicitly limiting the
president's power to interact with them.
That means President Trump can't always go in
and fire people and make changes on his
own.
In the last week, a judge ordered a
halt to Doge-related shutdowns at the Institute
of Museum and Library Services, the Federal Mediation
and Conciliation Service, and the Minority Business Development
Agency.
And this week, a different federal judge found
Doge's takeover of the U.S. Institute of
Peace was illegal.
Stephen, what does all of this add to
your understanding of what Doge is doing?
Well, President Trump has a very clear mission
of what a government remade in his image
looks like.
It's smaller, there's less bureaucracy, and those people
and institutions who are left answer directly to
him and his viewpoints.
Calling him God there with a made in
his image?
Yeah, this was the point.
Oh, they want to make it in his
image, and they weren't loyalists.
You're the president, you've been elected thus, and
then you expect what?
And you expect people to pay any attention?
You want people that go along with your
program?
No, we don't want that.
We want independence.
We want to do what we want to
do.
The president doesn't matter.
This is ridiculous.
They don't support any of it.
The media does not support anything positive.
No, well, we're not supporting them.
We're moving to podcasts.
Let me see.
Sam Altman, OpenAI, has bought Johnny Ives AI
company.
Yeah, I saw that.
For $6.5 billion.
Nice work if you can get it.
That's pretty nice.
My favorite artificial intelligence story, well, I have
two actually.
My favorite was the AI generated summer reading
list.
Did you catch this story?
No, I didn't, but it already sounds good.
Some newspapers around the country, including Chicago Sun
-Times, and at least one edition of the
Philadelphia Inquirer, published a syndicated summer book reading
list that includes made up books by famous
authors.
That's the great thing about AI.
Yeah.
If it can do art, it's making stuff
up.
It's making it up.
The list has no byline, but writer Marco
Buscaglia has claimed responsibility for it, says it
was partially generated by artificial intelligence.
In an email to NPR, Buscaglia writes, huge
mistake on my part.
It's my bad.
Huge mistake on my part.
It has nothing to do with the Sun
-Times.
They trust that the content they purchase is
accurate, and I betrayed that trust.
It's on me 100%.
There it is.
There it is.
We just talked about it.
When you say 100%, bullcrap.
Unbelievable.
Let's see.
Do we have any of these fun books
that they had?
Let me see.
Yeah, you have to have the list.
Yeah, I have the list here.
Let me see.
Uh, but these are authors I don't know.
Yeah, well, because probably half of them are
made up.
No, well, Dandelion Wine by Ray Bradbury.
Is that a real book?
I don't know.
Well, I know Ray Bradbury.
Yeah, he's real.
Yeah, he's real.
Well, he has a new book out.
I had breakfast with him once.
With Ray Bradbury?
Wasn't he a science fiction guy?
Wasn't he a...
Yeah, he's a great guy.
He gave a speech in Napa at some
event I was attending, and he's a great
public speaker, and he has a certain kind
of style that is very easy to take,
and it's easy to copy.
And I had breakfast with him the next
day, yakked about what I yak about, and
he's just a charming guy, nice guy.
Oh, nice.
And he gave me a book, autographed it
up.
I have a tip for DH Unplugged, which
you can hear on Tuesdays, live on Tuesdays,
and listen to the podcast on Wednesday.
Yeah, six o'clock Eastern.
Yes, it's...
No, no.
No, eight o'clock.
No.
Eight o'clock Eastern, isn't it?
What, six?
No, I think it's nine o'clock Eastern.
Nine o'clock, six o'clock Pacific.
Yeah.
With that Horowitz guy.
Yeah, the guy who's hitting on your wife.
Hitting on my wife.
Um, here's my tip.
I would say a long-term short on,
uh, Alphabet.
They have finally done the worst thing they
could possibly do to their core business.
Business now with Charles Pellegrin.
He is starting with Google, making some big
announcements at its developers conference on Tuesday.
This is especially, isn't it, Charles, with regards
to artificial intelligence.
That's right.
Since chat JPTs come onto the scene in
2022, there's been a mad scramble in Silicon
Valley to try and integrate AI-powered chatbots
in many features, and there have been concerns
that Google was lagging behind.
Well, the tech giant clearly tried to alleviate
those fears on Tuesday by saying they are
rolling out a new search feature for US
users called AI Mode.
It's basically a new tab within Google's search
engine that users can activate and which answers
questions in the conversational style of an AI
chatbot, and does not include a list of
blue links like we've been accustomed to for
so long.
The new feature will be powered by the
AI model that Google has developed itself called
Gemini.
Take a listen to Google CEO Sundar Pichai.
It's a total reimagining of search.
With more advanced reasoning, you can ask AI
Mode longer and more complex queries like this.
In fact, users have been asking much longer
queries, two to three times the length of
traditional searches.
And you can go further with follow-up
questions.
All of this is available today as a
new tab right in search.
This is the dumbest thing they could do.
You don't make stock tips.
That was a real tip that you gave.
No, that was just me.
Just joking around.
Yeah, I'm just joking around.
By the way, most people are buying heavily
into Google for some reason.
Yeah, well, I just think...
So you probably eat it if you follow
your advice.
Knowing that...
No, I'm just looking at what it costs.
I mean, it's seven times the cost to
perform an AI search.
There's no links.
So they ruin the whole concept of SEO.
No, they're...
I don't know what to...
Makes no sense to me.
Unless they start charging for it.
They're going to have to dream up some
way of making money off this thing.
I don't know how they're going to do
it right now.
And of course, some of this obviousity of
his commentary, which included, oh, they're asking really
long structured questions.
Yes, if you're working with AI, you ask
long structured questions.
Yes.
Because that's what the AI is expected to
hear.
And the funny thing is, during the very
early days of Google, before they got their
act together in the 90s, in the late
90s, when I had...
Sergey Brin used to come on.
Was that the late 90s when they got
their act together?
Feels like it was later than that, wasn't
it?
Yeah, I think, yeah, it was the late
90s.
It was the late 90s they got their
act together.
And people were still using Yahoo until about
for most of the 90s.
Hmm.
And because I always ask everybody about it.
And they say, what's your use in Google?
Sergey Brin used to say, you should write
a complicated question that has your search criteria.
Yeah.
Well, try that.
I think it's dumb.
I think it's dumb.
You're going to get a lot of stories.
Oh, Google told me to do this.
Google did this.
Google did that.
It's a PR nightmare, I tell you.
Well, it's going to be for them, because
they always have inferior technology at some level
when it comes to AI.
You can tell by their AI art, where
they are American revolutionists, all black.
Blacks, yeah.
Did you see the videos from that producer
who sent it to us about the guy?
I think he's in Canada, and he has
the free zero-point energy machine made of
magnets.
No, I didn't.
So he shows this machine, and he has
like...
Didn't we talk about this in the last
show?
Yes, someone donated and told us to look
out for this.
So the guy has this machine.
There's two gears on one side, and he
has a piece of wood stuck, and he
pulls the wood out, and the thing just
starts going and going and going.
He puts the wood back in, and it
stops.
And then he dismantles the machine on video
right before he had to show there's no
wires.
There's no wires.
It's all just magnetic energy.
It's really fascinating.
I love this stuff.
It's very fascinating.
And then by coincidence, if there's such a
thing, this video, this news story pops up.
I think that they're trying to get rid
of magnets altogether.
I knew it, Ted.
Despite more safety rules, kids around the world
continue swallowing magnets, and the United States tops
the list for the most incidents.
A new study was published yesterday in the
medical journal BMJ Injury Prevention.
It found the U.S. reported between 522
and 2,000 magnet ingestion cases each year
since 2016.
We've been warning you about this for a
long time.
Now, in 2016, a ban on high-powered
magnet sets was overturned, but in 2022, the
Consumer Product Safety Commission set strict rules on
the size and strength of loose magnets that
couldn't fit in a child's airway.
Experts say the new study suggests the safer
regulations may not go far enough.
Here's a tip.
Kids, stop eating magnets.
That's a tip.
All right, five-minute warning, John.
You're up.
You can play your last clips.
What was my last clip?
I don't know.
What do you got?
I'm sure you got something.
Well, I can play the dumb clips.
This is a clip which just encourages archivists
and hoarders to be on the lookout, and
this also tells me that Harvard is either
the luckiest group or they're dumb because it
took them this long to figure out what
was going on.
This is the Magna Carta clips.
Oh, yeah, this was an interesting story.
In 1946, Harvard University purchased what it thought
was just a very old copy of the
Magna Carta from a bookseller in London for
$27.50. Now, 80 years later, that document
has been identified as the real deal, issued
by King Edward I in the year 1300.
NPR's Scott Newman has the story.
The first version of the Magna Carta was
produced in 1215.
It outlined the rights of free men and
the limits of the English monarchy.
The Royal Charter of Liberties went through several
iterations throughout the 13th century, the last in
the year 1300.
Although few originals exist today, it's considered one
of the most important legal documents in history.
Centuries later, that legacy resurfaced when David Carpenter
was searching through the Harvard Law School Library's
online archives.
The professor of medieval history at King's College
London saw an item listed as a copy
of the Magna Carta from 1327, so he
clicked.
And lo and behold, what do I see
before my eyes but what for all the
world seemed to me an original of the
1300 Magna Carta.
But he needed to be sure, so he
enlisted Nicholas Vincent, a fellow professor of medieval
history at the University of East Anglia, to
help.
The two approached Harvard with their hunch and
requested an ultraviolet scan to get a better
look.
This is an odd story.
I don't know.
I saw it too.
I didn't.
Yeah, I just thought it was kind of
fascinating, but it encourages people to be on
the lookout, go to more flea markets.
Jonathan Zittrain is a Harvard professor who heads
the law library there.
When he got the request from Carpenter and
Vincent, he was intrigued but cautious.
You've got to tie together a number of
threads to figure out the authenticity of something.
And it's not always that there's a eureka
moment where it's like, ah, yes.
Zittrain says that without help from the UK
scholars, Harvard may never have known what a
great deal they struck all those years ago
to own a treasure of world history.
And of course, it makes you wonder, gosh,
what else do we have between the couch
cushions?
No one knows exactly what Harvard's Magna Carta
is worth, but in 2007, one authentic document
fetched $21.3 million at auction.
Scott Newman, NPR News.
Yes, this is indeed spurs on the archivist
like yourself, which leads me to the question.
Have you ever come across a gem of
a find in your collection days?
Yeah.
Like what?
Well, I was at an auction and I
saw, and there was a, they had some
was auctioning off what I looked at and
saw, oh, this is a daguerreotype.
I should bid on it.
And nobody's bidding on it.
And I got it for a dollar.
What's a daguerreotype?
Daguerreotype.
It's a type of early photo.
Oh.
But it wasn't a daguerreotype at all.
It was an Edward Curtis original photograph on
a gold photograph on glass.
Edward Curtis would be?
He's an old photographer from the 1800s.
And this piece is worth, it probably was
worth $10,000.
Whoa.
Whoa.
$1 into $10,000?
Yeah.
You know what that is?
That's better than Bitcoin.
Well, that's the only real deal I've been
holding on to this thing.
I haven't gotten $10,000 out of it.
I'm sorry, I just drowned you out.
Didn't mean to do that.
Yeah, I just said I haven't sold it.
So it's still worth $10,000.
Supposedly.
I mean, I might get, this might be
only get five.
But whatever it was, I only paid a
dollar, which is the point.
That's groovy, man.
I'm very happy for you.
Now, where would you go to sell that?
Another flea market?
No, no.
It would go to an auction house.
It would go to Christie's.
Christie's.
They're probably calling you right now.
Hey, he's got an original.
You have to get it into one of
the, I've auctioned stuff off.
And to do auctions right, you have to
find a thematic auction.
Yeah, yeah.
So you have like, in other words, if
a big Edward Curtis auction took place, where
he had a lot of his stuff, it
attracts all these collectors, that's when you get
the money.
Otherwise, it could get ripped off, chipped.
Don't want that.
But I haven't cashed in.
We have some beautiful end of show mixes
on the way for you.
John's tip of the day.
We have some dynamite meetup reports.
But first, John is going to thank our
donors, $50 and above, who we didn't mention
earlier.
Yes.
Yes.
Robert G.
MacArthur starts us off.
He's in Monmouth, Oregon, 150.
He says, he says something, he falls asleep
to the podcast, it sounds like.
Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee.
That's one of our Mercy Me boys.
He's a Mercy Me guy.
One, two, three, four, five.
And a good supporter, by the way.
Yeah, he is.
Good guys.
Whatever happened to our guys from Weezer?
I don't know.
You know, one of the band members' wife
was arrested during a shooting.
Yes, I saw that.
Not that she had anything to do with
it, but...
No, she went out or something.
She went out with a gun.
She went out with a gun.
With a gun.
Hey, what are you guys doing in the
yard?
What are you guys doing out here?
Yeah, I don't know.
I haven't heard much from the drummer.
A drummer from Weezer.
He is a drummer.
Yeah, I don't know what happened.
Thomas Koenig in Estorf, Deutschland.
Hallo, Deutschland.
111.11. Nice.
Doug Andrews in Sykesville, Maryland.
101.01. Timothy Bjork in Rollins, Wyoming.
100.
Ian Field, parts unknown.
100.
Sir Hold My Beer in Austin, Texas.
You probably know him.
100.
Gabriel I.
Shelton in Pensacola, Florida.
100.
Sir Darth Penguin.
That's a great little name.
I like that name.
Darth Penguin.
In Streamwood, Illinois.
84.38. It's a boob donation, actually.
The switcheroo for my good friend Chaitown Spook.
Who perhaps went not in CONUS doing spook
things.
No, Chaitown Spook.
Whatever.
We have a lot of people that are
probably in that category.
Spooks.
All spooks, man.
Spook.
Spook.
Spook.
Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina.
There he is.
He's the king of the boobs.
He is.
He's also a Archduke of Luna.
8008.
Nicholas Leary.
7272.
Dame Becky.
Dame Becky in Arlington, Washington.
6996.
Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria, Maria Wolver.
That's one way to pronounce it.
Maria!
I just met a girl named Maria.
Maria.
Yes.
76851 from her.
She wants some Jobs Karma.
We can do that at the end, I
think, if you write it down.
Oh, also the Walnut Grove cast gave No
Agenda a shout out last week.
That's the Little House on the Prairie podcast.
Is that right?
Yeah, because I listened to it.
We've talked about it.
The Little House on the Prairie podcast.
You did mention it, but what did they
talk about?
The show.
Little House on the Prairie and Laura Ingalls
and the books and everything.
Yeah, the Walnut Grove cast.
Give it a listen, people.
It's nostalgia in a can.
It's called log rolling.
Pod rolling.
Pod rolling.
Jan, Jan Morris in Calm, Calm.
Calm Tout, which means calm wood.
Calm wood.
Calm Tout.
Okay, it's in Belgium, though.
Calm wood.
He wants a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
He got a call out to his homies,
Gil and Dave Boy.
Hey, hey, and Dave Boy.
We're all from Belgium, so we're screwed, but
we know it.
Okay, Jan, you got it.
Get the name right.
Lauren in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 6161.
This is an Aunt Gigi donation.
I'll just have an apple.
Sir, sure.
What happened to Rebecca?
What happened to Rebecca?
Rebecca.
Rebecca's here.
She's Rebecca Hopper.
Hooper, Hooper in Pinehurst, North Carolina, 6006, small
boobs.
And she says, love you guys.
Sir, Shelfwood, Shelfwood, Shelfwood, 5809.
Michael Weidinger in Sumpirk, Czechoslovakia, Czech
Republic, one of the two, 5798.
It's probably Czech Republic, yes.
Tony Almond in Greenville, South Carolina, 5798.
73s, KF4, MSJ or IJ?
No, J, 73s, Kilo 5 Alpha, Charlie Charlie.
Kyle Fredrickson in Sarasota, Florida, 5626.
I keep seeing 33s everywhere.
There you go.
Daryl K in Dubuque.
No, wait, he's his first time donation.
Please dedouche me.
You've been dedouched.
And call out Joey P as a giant
douchebag.
Joey P.
Joey P.
Daryl K in Dubuque, Iowa, 5568.
What does he say here?
Anything?
A, Guidry, Guidry in Panchatula, Louisiana.
Guidry is a name from that area.
5560.
Please dedouche me.
You've been dedouched.
Shout out to Mary Moon.
Andy Meyer in Leavenworth, Washington, 5555.
Maria, what are these crazy names today?
Self, I guess.
Maybe it's Maria S.
Self.
Is this S-E-L-F?
In Rancho Cordova, California, 5271.
Bob Newell in Penfield, Pennsylvania, 5250.
Baron Henry of Outpost West in Rancho Palos
Verdes, California, 5242.
Curtis Kuhl in East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania, 5229.
A happy 16th anniversary to my wife.
Also, real men don't run out of gas.
That's a comment about something Adam said.
He's aiming to finish his knighthood on show
1776.
Now, thank you for reminding us.
That's going to be a big show number.
1776, a big massive show.
Spencer Nay in Weaverville, North Carolina, 5150.
See what he says there.
As I go on to Thomas Hurtado in
Fontana, California, $51.
And he wants some girlfriend karma at the
end.
Forrest Martin, 5005.
And Andrew Benz in Imperial, Missouri, 5005.
And now we get to the 50s.
Starting with Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina.
A lot of North Carolinians in here today.
Donald LaRichers in Franklin, Virginia.
Greg Marshall in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
Michael Socorro in New Richmond, Wisconsin.
Bold City Virtual Tours in Jacksonville Beach, Florida.
Dame Rita.
Oh, there she is in Sparks, Nevada.
Thank you for your courage.
Renee Barnhart something.
It ends, it just ends.
Bernhards Grutter.
She's in Switzerland.
Switzerland, Bernhards.
St. Gallen.
Oh, we need more Swiss listeners.
Maybe that's just her way of doing a
Bernhardt donation because it's kind of Swiss for
a Bernhardt greeting.
Bernhards Grutter.
I'm just thinking.
Yeah, it's probably what it is exactly.
Leon Shipley in Covington, Washington.
Sir Jerry Wingenroth in Saugus, California.
And last on our list is Sir Greg
in Newport, South Carolina.
I want to thank all these people for
making show 1766 the reality that it became.
Yes, we appreciate you very much.
Everyone under $50 as well, although we will
not read those names for reasons of anonymity
because people do like that.
Also, we have our sustaining donations.
You can go to noagendedonations.com.
You can give us any amount, any frequency.
Once a day, once a show, once a
week, once a month, whatever you want to
do.
It's all up to you.
People do eventually become knights with this stuff.
So it is well worth your time and
trouble.
And of course, you support the best podcast
in the universe.
Thank you all very much.
Jobs, karma as requested.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Once again, noagendedonations.com.
And here's our list.
Greg wishes Breanne a belated happy birthday.
She turned 35 on May 18th.
Brian, happy birthday to Brother Craig in Kalispell.
He turns 50-something tomorrow.
J-Lo, happy birthday to Kaya, turning 33.
And Bruce Bear wishes Marcia Jones from Jonestown,
Pennsylvania, a happy birthday.
And we do the same.
Happy birthday for everybody here.
The best podcast in the universe.
And we have that one knight who needed
no special attention at the round table, had
no jingles, any of that.
So we'll just get him up here and
bring out the one knight.
Here you go.
The one knight.
Beautiful blade.
All right, Brian Nano, you have reached the
pinnacle, sir.
You are now welcome up on the podium
here to join the round table of the
No Agenda Dames and Knights.
And I'm very proud to pronounce KB as
Sir Pliny the Hodler.
Sounds like a big coin to me.
For you, sir, we've got hookers and blow,
rent boys and chardonnay, cookies and vodka, warm
beer and cold women, Polish potato vodka.
We've got beer and blunts, cowgirls and coffee
varnish, a coffin varnish, Ruben has women, rosé,
geysers and sake, vodka, vanilla, barn hits and
bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and
gerbils, breast milk and pavlova, more as always
here at the round table.
A nice hefty piece of mutton with a
nice glass of mead.
And you can go to noagendarings.com and
we'll have your signet ring ready for you.
All you have to do is give us
your ring size.
There's a handy ring sizing guide at noagendarings
.com.
And it comes with a certificate of authenticity.
And because it is a signet ring, we'll
give you a couple sticks of wax so
you can seal your important correspondence.
And thank you so much for supporting No
Agenda.
Welcome to the round table of the No
Agenda Knights and Dames.
No Agenda, yeah!
Like a party, they always are like a
party.
I witnessed it myself.
Last Friday, we had a No Agenda meetup
here in Fredericksburg, right outside town actually, in
Luckenbach at 1776 Bar.
That is Jenny the J6er's bar.
It was a great time.
And Fredericksburg Matt had organized that with his
lovely wife Gail.
And here is their meetup report.
It's nice to be out here with everybody.
Thanks for having us.
Wonderful barbecue and in the morning, everybody.
Well, that was Lori.
And I'd like to thank her for 17
years of courage.
Hey, this is Sir Dutherford.
Just want to give a shout out to
all the No Agenda meetup heads out there.
It's been a really great time.
Hi, this is Rob, your constitutional lawyer.
I just want to be loved.
First, but certainly not last, the first meetup.
It's really been great.
Met a lot of nice people.
Too bad you're not here, John.
In the morning, citizens and slaves.
This is Sir Chris Barrett of North Austin.
Having a great meetup out here in Fredericksburg.
Some good barbecue and good new friends.
Hi, this is Trinidad.
I'm here at the meetup at Fredericksburg and
we're having a great time.
Cheers.
Hey, it's Paige at the meetup.
Having a great time.
Fantastic barbecue.
Hey, everybody.
This is Sir Brian with a knife.
Again, I'm here with my smoking hot self.
Sir Dirty Jersey Whore.
John, work on your Texas accent.
In the morning, Jenny, your baby goats are
amazing.
Yep, from Chicago, now in Texas.
It's looking good so far.
Hello, this is Jenny.
Excited to have y'all back out in
October.
Hey, this is Sean.
I'm still a douchebag, but everybody treated me
very nice.
Awesome barbecue.
In the morning.
This is Brendan from Local 512 saying in
the morning.
Hi, it's Gail.
Second meetup in Fredericksburg, Texas.
A great success.
In the morning.
All right.
This is Terry Shore from Mountain Point Barbecue.
We had a great time out here with
Matt Long and got to meet Adam Curry.
That was awesome.
Best no agenda meetup in a long, long
time.
Lots of human resources, good food, good people.
And we got the constitutional lawyer.
What else do you need?
There you go.
That was a good time that we had.
Patrick Kobel.
Sir Patrick Kobel was in the Netherlands for
a recent meetup because he travels.
He's bad.
He's international.
Baron Rob from another meetup in Leiden with
us.
Very special guest, Sir Patrick.
Thank you.
In the morning, learning about very interesting ways
to steal a car.
In the morning, this is Roland again.
Sir Sebastian, Knight of the Spirit Ground, saying
hello.
And in the morning with these great folks
here in Leiden.
In the morning, this is Duke of the
South.
Howdy.
Howdy.
Nice to meet the Duke of the South
here in Alnabay, Sir Huskadover.
Adam and John, thanks for everything.
Hey, could you maybe give the rain stick
a wiggle?
Because it hasn't rained here for at least
two and a half months.
In the morning, this is Pedro.
Nice to meet these guys in Leiden again.
Why am I in Leiden again?
I don't know.
It's a nice evening.
These people are weird.
Hey, John, that's the first time in a
long time we've had a rain stick request.
And I think we should do one because
I'd like to bounce it off Greenland and
hit the Netherlands.
You want to give it a shot?
No, but I will.
Okay, two shakes of the stick.
These are official rain sticks, everybody.
So it will rain.
We are professionals.
Do not try this at home.
Ready?
One, two, three, go.
Shake one and shake two.
You're afraid it's going to rain there.
Is that the problem?
No, we can use some rain.
Okay, that's good.
All right, the Netherlands.
Let me know how that works out.
Meetups coming up on Saturday.
Quad Cities Area Extravaganza, seven o'clock at
Wise Guys Pizza & Pub in Davenport, Iowa.
Next Thursday, there's no one doing a meetup
on Sunday.
The Lazaruswaart Picnic Culemborg, noon at Café de
Havenmeester in Culemborg, Gelderland, the Netherlands.
Also next Thursday, North Idaho Sanity Brigade May
Meetup kicks off at five o'clock at
Trails & Brewery & Brick Oven Pizza.
That's in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.
And finally, the North Georgia Monthly Meetup, six
o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta,
Georgia.
I got a request from Paul who was
organizing.
I think this may be the first No
Agenda Meetup in Copenhagen.
Have you ever had one in Copenhagen before?
I don't recall one in Copenhagen.
That'd be a good place to have one.
It is the Ersund Meetup at the Baghaven,
that means the backyard, Bauhuen.
It's a microbrewery.
I suggest you go to noagendameetups.com.
It's Friday the 13th of June in Copenhagen.
Mikkels, Baghaven, Opereffen.
There you go.
You'll find this and many more meetups listed
at noagendameetups.com.
These are producer-organized, which means these are
people that you will want to reach out
to.
They are your first responders in an emergency.
And when you go to one of these,
you get connection that always gives you protection.
noagendameetups.com.
If you can't find one near you, start
one yourself.
It's like a party.
Well, I had one ISO and it's not
working.
Is this ISO not working?
That's interesting.
Like 10 people sent me this ISO.
And I don't know if it doesn't seem
to want to load in my player.
So I'll just see if it plays.
If it doesn't, then the joke's on me.
You ready?
Yeah.
You know, I don't like dicks.
And there you go.
You know, I don't like dicks.
Yes, that was taken from the DHM Plug
Show.
Yes, I thought it was.
And we're talking about dick sporting goods.
Yes, yes.
I thought it was a fine end of
show ISO.
I don't think you agree with me.
Well, it doesn't really apply to the show.
And it's like, you know, kind of a,
it's somewhat profane the way it's clipped.
Somewhat, yes.
All right.
So let's hear what you've got.
I have four, but actually one of them
doesn't isn't a clip at all.
It's just, I thought I'd play it just
because it's a experiment.
This is three back to back to back.
Cause I'm just to let you know, I'm
still working on it.
This is what I'm working on.
And this is how far I've gotten.
No, none of them are even close.
I'm getting there.
It's, it's, it's yo, yo, yo, what up?
Yo, you gotta have a yo at the
end.
Don't you?
Oh, okay.
I'll work out.
I forgot about it.
All right.
So I got a, I got a slew
here.
I got ice.
I got a wake.
The podcast is over.
Wake up.
Okay.
I like that one.
Tina would like that one.
Yeah, she would.
It's gold.
Yeah, it's gold boys.
These boys have done another fine job.
Okay.
And then we have goof.
Good, good.
Actually, goof.
Why can't everyone do a podcast this good?
No, I think the podcast is over.
Wake up.
I think that's the one for me.
There's nothing quite like that.
Good job, everybody.
And now it is time for the coveted
John C.
Dvorak's chip of the day.
And sometimes.
So this is something people don't realize.
It's something you'll use a lot of, but
you don't know you need it.
Oh, one of those deals.
Okay.
Yeah, you get one.
This is for lifting things an inch or
two off the ground with no work.
And it's not like a cabinet jack.
These are cheap.
They usually come in pairs.
And they are their air power.
You squeeze.
You got a bulb.
You squeeze it.
No, this is a cabinet jack.
No, I said this is not a cabinet.
It's not a cabinet jack.
Okay.
Cabinet jacks can be pretty expensive.
Yes.
This is called an air shim.
Air shim.
An air shim.
And the search you want to do to
get the better ones is air shim pro
XL.
Air shim pro XL.
And Mimi uses these all the time.
We have a piano up in the Port
Angeles house, and one of the casters broke.
And you put the air shim under the
piano, and you can pump it up, and
it lifts the piano about two inches off
the ground in the corner.
And then you can put the new caster
on it and lower it back down.
Now you can move the piano around.
That's one example.
You can use it to lift up appliances.
And it's just one of those screwball products
that nobody even knows they need.
Does anyone up there play the piano?
Jay can play the piano.
Jay can play the piano?
Yeah.
Oh, is she good at it?
No.
All right, everybody.
There it is.
You can read all these tips at tipoftheday
.net.
Thank you.
Well, that was Honest John strikes again.
All right, everybody.
That is it for our broadcast day.
This Sunday, we have a special edition of
the No Agenda Show.
It will be the best of the clip
of the day.
This is a dynamite show.
Because all these clips were good.
Because they were bestowed with a clip of
the day.
We don't have it.
And the thing is, it's only about once
every third show that we have a clip
of the day.
And thanks to Sir Deanonymous for making bingit
.io available to us, because that's how these
special shows are put together.
So enjoy that on your Memorial Day weekend.
And of course, we'll be checking in on
you during that show.
So it'll be fun to listen to.
Coming up next on the No Agenda Stream
in your modern podcast apps, Larry's show number
488.
That's Larry with a deep voice.
Coming to you.
Oh, wait.
End of show.
Hugh Allison, James Bosworth, David Kekta.
And I am coming to you from the
heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here
in picturesque Fredericksburg.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain.
I'm John C.
DuVorek.
We'll see you on Sunday with the best
of the clip of the day.
Until then, adios, mo foza, hui hui.
And such.
Well, we got some global warming in Texas.
Texans are definitely not strangers to heat.
That's not what humidity does.
If it's real humidity.
No, it makes it feel humid.
You're in, forget it.
Go to the Midwest.
Go up to Chicago.
Chicago, it's 90 with high humidity.
It feels like it's 200 degrees.
It's terrible.
I've been in New York once where it
was so humid.
You want to puke.
You walk outside.
Yet I had to change my clothes twice
in one day.
It's going to feel like 105, 106.
And experts say heat this early in the
year can be especially risky.
And it's not just Texas.
This is increasingly a problem across the United
States.
What are we, reptiles?
What's this climatized body?
We live in air conditioning, lady.
Here's the funny thing about it.
What difference does it make when the temperature
goes from whatever it is to hot?
I'm not climatized yet.
Are you climatized yet?
No one believes in climate change.
No one believes in it.
I want to be at the NOAA gender
climate test.
So you have to think that some of
that sweet, sweet climate change money is going
to outfits like NPR.
Today, many people around the world are marking
international day against homophobia, biphobia, biphobia, biphobia, and
transphobia.
They dedicated to raising awareness of biphobia.
Why didn't biphobia show up?
The buyers were like, hey, hey, hey, I
want some phobia.
I want some phobia.
Give me some.
I want some biphobia, biphobia, biphobia, biphobia, hey,
hey, hey, biphobia.
It's a bunch of balls.
Bunch of balls.
It's fabulous.
Blue balls.
Red balls.
Silver balls.
It's a bunch of balls, a bunch of
balls.
It's fabulous.
Balls.
Some gays and Adam.
The buyers were like, some gays and Adam.
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of bunch of balls.
Fabulous.
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lot of balls, fabulous.
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