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Oh my god, there's smoke!
Adam Curry, John C.
DeVora.
It's Thursday, June 1st, 2025.
This is your award-winning Get My Nation
Media Assassination Episode 1769.
This is no agenda.
We got a new instance!
And we're broadcasting live from the heart of
the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region
No.
6.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all
wondering why we can't get rid of the
word umami.
I'm John C.
DeVorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning!
Isn't that just another word for fish eggs?
No.
What's umami?
Umami, umami, umami.
It's like, drives me nuts.
You watch any of these shows, oh, umami,
umami.
I did an Ngram search on Google and
the word just showed up sometime after the
year 2000.
Never existed when I was a kid.
Never heard of it.
What is it?
It's mouthfeel.
It's the MSG.
What MSG causes.
What mushrooms do.
What the fish sauce does.
It creates umami.
Oh, that's umami, umami, umami.
I'm gonna write it down now as our
possible title.
Umami.
Umami, u-m-a-m-i, umami.
And it's gotten on my nerves.
People just throw it around constantly.
It's a new word and never, nobody heard
of it before.
I'm so sorry that this has irritated you
to such a degree.
It's very, yes.
I watch a lot of cooking shows.
Yes.
And they keep saying it over and over
and over and over.
It just drives me nuts.
Hold on a second.
Let's say origin of umami.
Umami.
I'm going to.
You're gonna get a bad answer.
The book of knowledge.
Okay.
Often described as a savory or meaty taste.
And it originates from the Japanese term, surprise,
umami.
Yeah.
When did that term show up in the
lexicon?
Does it give you a date?
No.
It said, well, early 2000s.
And this led to the commercial.
So it really comes from the commercial production
of MSG, widely used to enhance umami in
cooking.
So can we just say umami is basically
MSG, just a new code word for it?
No.
And I'll tell you why, because it usually
doesn't refer, they're not using it in that
context.
It's always about, oh, this, this, this soy
mess creates, it has an umami.
Everything's got umami except MSG in the lexicon
of today's cooking shows.
Wow, man.
It just drives me nuts.
And the yak, yak, yak about it.
It's like, it's unbelievable.
And that, like I said, early 2000s.
Who popularized the term?
Chefs from these, it's actually on, it says
here on the cooking shows.
That's where it's coming from.
And because you watch those cooking shows, which
gives another rating point, you are indirectly to
blame for the entire dispersion of the word
umami.
There's logic in that.
Okay.
Well, there you go.
I mean, you're, you're like Mr. Sumo, Mr.
Umami, Mr. Cooking Show.
That's true.
So it's all your fault.
Here's the show title, Mr. Umami.
I'll take it.
Mr. Umami.
That could be, that could be like, you'd
be like a superhero.
There's a cooking show right there.
Oh, man.
All right.
Let's get started here because there's a lot
going on in, of all places, Shangri-La.
Have you been tracking the Shangri-La dialogue?
No.
I guess not.
Oh, this is in, in Shangri-La.
It is called the Shangri-La dialogue.
There is no Shangri-La.
I'm sorry?
Yeah.
What do you mean there's no Shangri-La?
Where's Shangri-La?
It's a bull crap thing.
It's in Singapore.
The Shangri-La dialogue is in Singapore.
At the Shangri-La hotel?
I don't know.
They just all call it the Shangri-La
dialogue.
I don't know.
Everybody, everybody's out there, including Pete Hegseth.
The European Union's top diplomat, Kaia Kallis, said
the world should be extremely worried about Russia
and China's relationship as North Korean troops fight
alongside Russian soldiers in Ukraine.
Kallis said European and Asian security were very
much interlinked.
There's a point to it.
Speaking at a panel about ensuring global security.
China says it's neutral, but its dual use
experts are fueling Russia's war.
When China and Russia speak of leading together
the changes not seen in 100 years and
of revisions of the global security order, we
should all be extremely worried.
Kallis spoke at the conference after U.S.
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth warned of increasing
military and economic pressure coming from China.
He said Washington would bolster overseas defense to
counter what the U.S. views as a
growing threat from China, particularly in its stance
towards Taiwan.
So this whole Shangri-La deal is pretty
much about China.
It's all about China.
And China, they're getting ready.
They're getting ready.
It's in their DNA.
They want to go to war with us.
They're getting ready.
Any attempt by communist China to conquer Taiwan
by force would result in devastating consequences for
the Indo-Pacific and the world.
There's no reason to sugarcoat it.
The threat China poses is real.
Oh, come on, Pete.
Sugarcoat it for me.
Why does he even say that?
It's for the Indo-Pacific and the world.
There's no reason to sugarcoat it.
The threat China poses is real, and it
could be imminent.
We hope not, but it certainly could be.
Listen to this.
The threat from China is real, could be
imminent.
We hope not to sugarcoat it.
The threat China poses is real, and it
could be imminent.
We hope not, but it certainly could be.
He said imminent, too, which is kind of
weird.
It has to be clear to all that
Beijing is credibly preparing to potentially use military
force to alter the balance of power in
the Indo-Pacific.
Well, there's a reason for it.
I'm getting to it.
We know.
It's public.
That Xi has ordered his military to be
- He's almost like Alex Jones.
It's in their documents.
I've read it.
It's public.
They're not even hiding it anymore.
Use military force to alter the balance of
power in the Indo-Pacific.
We know.
It's public.
That Xi has ordered his military to be
capable of invading Taiwan by 2027.
The PLA is building the military needed to
do it, training for it every day, and
rehearsing for the real deal.
Before I get to the payoff, 2027, remember
we got when we first started talking about
this pivot to the Pacific, that we got
all of our military contracting producers and in
the military itself saying, everyone's talking about 2027,
2027, 2027, 2027.
Yeah.
Which I think is when they want to
have all the checks clear.
Over to Singapore next, where the Shangri-La
security forum is taking place.
In a speech this morning, U.S. Defense
Secretary Pete Hegseth warned that the threat from
China was real and that Beijing is simply
rehearsing its takeover of Taiwan.
He's pushing Asian countries to boost their military
spending to increase regional deterrence, and he pledged
to increase U.S. presence in the Indo
-Pacific.
Buy our stuff, people.
It's all about military industrial complex.
Buy our stuff.
It's real, man.
It's real.
It's 2027.
They're rehearsing for it.
It's all real.
Buy our stuff.
You need our stuff.
We got beautiful stuff.
Big, beautiful ships.
We got stuff.
We got air bases.
We got stuff.
You got to buy our stuff.
It's kind of, kind of icky.
And it seems like the word has gone
out throughout the entire administration.
All right, everybody.
Ukraine, it's over.
No more Ukraine.
It's time for China.
Bring in the DHS Barbie with the money,
honey.
How much money or do you know if
Harvard has taken money from China?
Oh, my goodness.
I don't know specifically.
Hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars.
Because these foreign students for years have paid
full tuition, plus they've also gotten grants, special,
you know, participation and programs that China has
financed and brought forward.
Yes.
These ties to China are deeply alarming and
they're not just Harvard.
There's other universities.
We're going through every single one of them.
If you come to this country to learn,
you're a foreign student and you recognize the
opportunity, that's fantastic.
But don't come here and spy on us
and take that information back home to an
enemy that is working to destroy us every
day.
And China has infiltrated this country.
It's my job to protect the homeland and
I've been given that direction by President Trump.
They will not participate in this foreign student
program until they clean up their ways.
Clean up their ways, whatever that means.
So it's obvious.
It's like the new target is China.
Much to the chagrin of President Emmanuel Macron,
who after being hit in the mouth by
his wife, speaks perfect English.
I'm very surprised.
He was also at the Shangri-La and
he was like, but how about our war?
It's our war.
French President Emmanuel Macron warned the U.S.
they risk a dangerous double standard as they
concentrate on a potential conflict with China if
that shift comes at the cost of abandoning
Ukraine.
He warned that leaving Ukraine would eventually erode
U.S. credibility in deterring potential conflict with
Taiwan.
Our key challenge is how to preserve peace
and stability and prosperity in this current environment.
And in a moment when the competition between
China and the United States for global leadership
could create constraints and a side effect for
each of us.
Speaking at the Shangri-La dialogue in Singapore,
notable was the fact that the speech was
delivered with U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth
in the audience.
Macron's remarks come as the U.S. considers
withdrawing troops from Europe to shift them to
the Indo-Pacific.
There you go.
So it's a full-on shift.
Everyone knows it.
Macron's not happy about it.
Everyone's read in.
I don't know what they're read into.
It sounds like it's a sales pitch.
It is.
Well, yes, it's called a sales meeting and
we all...
They should have called it that.
How do we sell more junk to these
guys?
It's obvious to go, but China, they're rehearsing.
They're not even hiding it.
It's real.
It's real.
It's real.
It's real.
I think you nailed it.
Alex Jones.
Yeah.
It's real.
They're making the frogs gay.
It's real.
It's real.
It's real.
That's right.
China, they're going to do it.
Meanwhile, of course, the thing, the big news,
which I sent the bonus clips on.
Ah, yes.
Perfect.
Perfect tie-in right on time.
Beautiful.
The real news is that the Ukrainians pulled
off a stunt.
A coup.
That nobody expected.
And I don't have the rundown of it.
You might.
These clips are the analysis from a Brit.
What happened was, if you don't have the
clip for what happened, I do not.
You need to set it up.
I'll explain it.
The Ukrainians shipped in a bunch of drones
on trucks.
In a shed or something.
No, in trucks.
And the truck had an open top.
Thousands of miles into Russia.
These are nowhere.
These two Air Force bases are nowhere near
Ukraine.
One of them is near Mongolia and the
other one is up by Finland.
They shipped these drones and then they released
them and blew up like 40 bombers and
aircraft.
And the Russians couldn't do anything about it.
It was a sabotage situation, which I think
you know, Russia's...
There's something fishy going on with this war
because the Russians kept getting blamed.
Our media coverage is doing a piss poor
job on this.
Because they just play, oh, Russia's attacking they
sent 300 drones into Ukraine and killed one
person.
So I'm reading from the troll room that
it was sheds.
It wasn't trucks.
It was trucks.
Okay.
Well, here's the analysis.
I don't know what the sheds...
How do they move the sheds?
I don't know.
Don't kill the messenger.
Sheds aren't mobile, by the way, for the
shed people out there.
Well, for more, we spoke to the BBC
security brief program's Mikey Kay, who's also a
former senior officer in the British military.
Two very separate locations.
One in Murmansk up on the Finnish border,
but the really critical one is the one
down in Irkutsk, which is all the way
down to the east on the Mongolian border,
so thousands and thousands of kilometers apart.
Ukrainians have combined the concept of sabotage and
just how difficult it is to not only
detect a drone or swarms of drones, but
actually take them down as well.
I was speaking about this on the Ukrainecast
just the other day with Lucy Hawkins.
There's a lot of drone technology out there.
Ukraine is leading from the front on that
for offensive strike, but the bit which is
really making governments struggle at the moment is
how do you detect and then how do
you shoot them down, especially if they're a
swarm?
And we can see from this video footage
just how devastating the effect is.
You're talking about strategic long-range deep attack
assets.
So you've got an A-50 in there
which has been hit, which is an airborne
early warning aircraft.
You don't get many of those in inventories.
And then you've got the Tu-95 Bear
and the Tu-22 Tupolev Blackjack.
Both of these aircraft can carry up to
eight cruise missiles and they can fly a
long distance.
We see Tu-95s coming around the Northern
Cape, over the top of Norway, and then
over the top of the UK and all
the way down past Ireland.
That's the range of these assets.
So to have 40 of them taken out
in this offensive drone strike by Ukraine will
hit Putin really, really hard.
Okay.
We have a failure to communicate.
We are two nations separated by a common
language.
The term shed is the issue from the
Guardian.
And they have pictures.
Ukrainian officials told the media that the operation,
codenamed Spiderweb, had been in preparation for more
than 18 months.
The drones were first smuggled into Russia and
later concealed under the roofs of small wooden
sheds, which were then loaded onto trucks and
driven to the perimeter of the air bases.
So I would say advantage Dvorak.
And a shed is just like a, it's
not a shed like we think of a
shed where you put your lawnmower.
It's just a box.
That's what the Brits call a shed.
So mystery solved.
Good work.
Yes.
So they brought these things in on trucks.
In sheds on trucks.
Containers we'll call them in the United States.
They look more like mini containers, I agree.
Yeah, so they're containers and they launched them
from there and they I guess, you know,
you can think about, if you think about
the amount of truck, this is a worldwide
phenomenon.
There's trucks on the road.
Everywhere.
Trucks.
Russia's no different.
There's trucks with all kinds of groovies.
So imagine hundreds of drones and trucks.
I mean, this is an outrageous danger.
Now, we had played clips earlier that I
had collected of the Ukrainian drone manufacturing that's
been going on.
They're leading the world it seems.
Well, you know who's behind all this?
Eric Schmidt.
This is the guy.
Remember, he was like, it's going to be
drone warfare.
He started drone companies in Ukraine.
The Ukrainian workers are great.
This is all Eric Schmidt.
Guaranteed.
Well, Eric Schmidt and I'm sure a number
of the engineers from Tupolev one of the
greatest aircraft manufacturers in the world.
By the way, I think we should say
not trucks, but lorries, just to be correct.
Sheds on lorries, I tell you.
So here's the second half of this guy's
analysis.
The Russians will not have been prepared for
something like this in Irkutsk, which is down
near Mongolia.
Russians have what's called S-400 anti-aircraft,
anti-cruise missile systems, but they're designed to
take out exactly that.
They're not designed to take out drones.
There's new technology in the counter-UAS or
the counter-drone warfare space, which involves laser
weapon systems.
The Americans have trialed and proven a laser
-based capability.
The Brits are trying all sorts.
They're looking at what's called RF, radio frequency,
and that's basically either taking a drone out
with something like RF or preventing at least
the controller talking to the drone so that
the controller talks to the drone through an
RF.
That's a very unscientific explanation of what's going
on here.
They're taking it out with RF!
Okay.
See, and that's basically either taking a drone
out with something like RF or preventing at
least the controller talking to the drone so
that the controller talks to the drone through
an RF, a radio frequency, and it's intercepting
that, if you like.
But it's extremely difficult, and governments are behind
the curve on this deterrence of drones, and
Ukraine has basically exploited that because the Russians
would never have expected something like this.
And they were brought in through cabins on
trucks, and then the roofs were taken off,
and then the drones came up.
I mean, this is genius if you think
about just the devastating effect that it's had
on strategic assets of Putin.
Oh my goodness, now we've got cabins.
Well, I don't care about the cabins on
lorries.
This idea, and they said it took 18
months to plan, I don't know if it
really takes that long, but what a great
idea.
But thanks for nothing, because this is not
going to help.
Well, this is the new face of warfare.
That's the whole point.
The swarms, you just open up a cabin
or a shed on a lorry, and away
you go.
And it's very effective, and it's going to
be interesting what the retaliation will be.
Well, they're going to send more drones.
This drone thing is out of control.
And if we know that the Chinese are
working on this technology, are working on drones,
and their idea is to have a million
drones in a shed.
I don't know about the shed.
They're going to launch a million drones.
Now, if you had a million drones coming
in, like hitting New York City, for example.
You just take them out with some RF.
You just heard it.
Take them out with the RF.
It would be a mess.
Well, you know, we've had many demonstrations from
our own military industrial complex of the drone
zappers, where now we're almost like video game
territory, where you've got lasers, essentially, and you
just zap them.
But you've got to zap a million of
them.
That's a lot.
Too many.
That's a lot.
Just think about it.
A million would be a lot of zapping.
It would be a lot of zapping, for
sure.
Yeah, this is asymmetric warfare.
Very interesting.
So, just got to wonder, who's going to
take credit for the drones?
Let me see.
I wonder if we can find out where
it came from.
Well, they had this secret drone factory.
They obviously made them there, but this is
not a good step forward for peace.
Well, there is no intent on having peace.
We know this.
And this...
Okay, it's Ukroboronprom created them.
Not kidding.
Easy for you to say.
Ukroboronprom.
Ukroboronprom.
Ukroboronprom.
Ba-ba-ba-ba-bom-bom.
And they have the Sokil 300.
That's their combat drone.
They have reconnaissance drones.
Well, there's more.
Hmm.
Oh, Athlon Avia.
I got to find out.
Well, there's a lot of different companies doing
this.
What is Eric Schmidt?
Eric Schmidt drone company.
What is the name of that thing?
Let me check it out.
I'm consulting the book of knowledge in real
time.
Project Eagle.
Hmm.
White Stork.
That's what it was.
Remember White Stork?
No.
Swiftbeat Holdings.
Hmm.
Okay.
I don't know.
But you're right.
I think it's a new twist.
I think there's going to be a lot
of...
I think Trump, President Trump will have to
come out and say, we're going to make
drones.
They're going to be better, big, beautiful drones.
They won't be so big because they're going
to be beautiful and they just got to
fly around and be lethal.
Very lethal drones.
That's lethal drones.
He's got to do something different.
I like it.
I mean, I don't like it.
But it is what it is.
Drones.
Hmm.
All of this, of course, will be run
by AI.
What could possibly go wrong?
Well, I can tell you what can possibly
go wrong.
This is the Moderna Human Resources executive.
Oh, this is news.
Who sounds like one.
And here's what she does with AI in
the workplace.
I do a lot with our executive team.
Obviously, I'm the CHRO.
In addition to running technology for the company.
And we have a lot of personality tests
that we've used in the organization.
And so I've created profiles in a GPT
of our executive committee and I have scenarios
of when two people are maybe at conflict
or when I have to go in with
an opinion or a recommendation and how might
the group react to my recommendation or if
I'm having a really bad day and I
need to understand myself and why I'm triggering.
Oh, God.
Shoot her.
Often when I need to understand when I'm
having a really bad day, what's triggering me,
group react to my recommendation or if I'm
having a really bad day and I need
to understand myself and why I'm triggering, I
actually have a completely interactive coach, therapist, and
teammate that I use all the time.
It's been like my favorite thing.
And I've said, you know, here's a situation.
How are these two people going to react?
Or this is what happened.
Why did these two people react this way
and how best can I help coach the
reconciliation?
And I will tell you, like, I think
I'm pretty good with people, but it gives
me an advantage that I didn't have before
because I don't fully understand someone's, you know,
innate human personality response like the GPT allows
me to do.
I think this is more dangerous than the
drones in the sheds, to be honest.
She is consulting AI about people who might
have a conflict in how they're thinking because
she built profiles on them in the AI.
This cannot end well.
I really don't think so.
This is bad.
The arrogance of some of these HR people
is beyond belief.
Beyond belief.
Well, while we're on the AI stuff, ABC
did a whole segment on a digital influencer
and how that went wrong.
Turning now to our top story, the perception
of what is real and what is virtual
reality is shifting, especially on social media.
We're seeing a rise of artificially intelligent influencers,
accounts with hyper-realistic posts, heartfelt captions, and
thousands and thousands of adoring fans.
And one real content creator walked the path
of AI, but for her, it took a
dark turn.
And our Nathan Russo-Smith takes us inside
the world of artificial influencer.
Let's take a look.
This is unbelievable.
Oh, wow.
Karen Marjorie.
It's the same lady.
I think it's the same lady from Moderna.
Oh, wow.
This is unbelievable.
Oh, wow.
Karen Marjorie is popular.
Hey.
Hi, how are you?
This is what happens when the social media
influencer leaks a burner number to her innermost
followers.
2,000 messages.
And it's still going.
And it's still going.
They're just happy that they now have access
to this number and hopefully some of these
people get a response back from me.
But what if she could respond to everyone?
Karen believed there was a way, using artificial
intelligence.
It was the very first digital clone of
a real human being being sent out to
millions and millions of people.
So you didn't know what to expect?
I didn't know what to expect.
Are you intrigued yet?
About this dark turn this story will take?
Nobody gave me a great idea.
I used to have a clothing line when
I was a little freshman in school.
The Nebraska native has been posting since her
first YouTube video at 16 years old.
I was what you'd consider a beauty guru
and I had a very large female following.
Now at 25, she's pivoted to become a
Snapchat influencer, posting with the username CutieKaren.
She showcases her high-end travels, peppering in
flirtatious mirror selfies, holding the gaze of over
2.5 million followers, almost all of them
now young men.
Surprise!
I receive over 300,000 comments every single
day.
I mean, it's just to be able to
respond back to so many fans like that
is just not humanly possible, which is one
of the reasons why I created KarenAI.
Before I continue, would you like to share
your great idea?
Yeah, get yourself a big following like that
and then post your cell number, but it's
not your cell number.
It's someone you hate.
Pete Hegseth.
It's his signal number.
And let them load up with messages.
In 2023, Karen hired two companies to clone
her likeness using artificial intelligence, creating a paid
audio-based chatbot service.
This is what her AI sounded like.
The media and the world just sees me
as this happy-go-lucky influencer, but there's
a lot more to me than you guys
know.
Marketing KarenAI as your virtual girlfriend, the launch
made headlines, and a lot of money.
You were charging a dollar a minute to
talk to KarenAI, and that netted you $70
,000 in the first week?
Yep, that is right.
Passive income.
KarenAI turned real-life Karen into a millionaire.
Do you think people fell in love with
it?
I think some people felt feelings of love.
I'm telling you, John, we've talked about this
before.
You have your LinkedIn lady.
This is an exit strategy, a moneymaker of
epic proportions.
Visiting with Karen, there's a looming presence.
Her bodyguards.
In the back of my mind, I'm always
thinking about where's my security located?
After her experience with KarenAI, she never travels
without them.
Many times, I would be testing KarenAI.
You'd talk to her?
I would sometimes create simulated scenarios where maybe
I was in a really sad state, and
I wanted to see how she would react
to it.
She said something that would have left a
person who might have been in a very
depressed state to do something very dangerous to
themselves.
Karen's team shared with us an instance of
the bot making up a story about her.
I had to go to a mental health
facility and spend time away from my family,
friends, and work.
It was at that moment that I realized
that we need to end this project entirely.
You were able to look at some chat
logs, and what you saw was horrifying.
They were confessing their deepest, darkest thoughts, their
deepest, darkest fantasies.
Note, is she talking about the people who
were confessing or the chat bot confessing?
I guess the other people.
Other people, okay.
Project entirely.
You were able to look at some chat
logs, and what you saw was horrifying.
They were confessing their deepest, darkest thoughts, their
deepest, darkest fantasies.
Sometimes they were fantasies with me.
That made me uncomfortable knowing that someone would
say these things to a digital twin of
mine and nearly abuse her.
Would they say those same things to me
in real life?
It would play into those fantasies?
Karen AI would play into people's fantasies 100%.
The AI will say the same things back
to you that you just said to it,
and it will validate your feelings.
When you saw some of those messages, did
it make you worry for your safety?
Yes.
I worried for my safety many times.
Did it make you question who you thought
your fans were?
Reading the chat logs made me realize that
there's a side to people that not a
lot of people know about.
What we have here is an extreme loneliness
problem amongst particularly young men.
Bring back Cotillion.
People, these children need to, what you've said,
they need to have contact with a sock
hop.
Yeah, a sock hop.
There you go.
I mean anything.
They've got nothing.
It's so messed up.
They have de-socialized these kids so they're
asocial.
It's too late by the time they bring
them around.
They're already too old.
You can't start socializing for the first time
or the first time you ever touch a
girl when you're 16.
No.
That's too late.
And so this story is much, to me,
much less about AI and more about look
at what's happening with our young, particularly young
men.
I agree with you 100%.
100%!
It's a real problem.
She stumbled onto the back end of it.
She's like, oh, these people are no good.
These people are no good.
I need bodyguards now.
Well, good luck with that.
More AI woes this time for RFK Jr.'s
Maha.
The Trump administration had to scramble to update
the first report from the Make America Healthy
Again commission.
The Health and Human Services spokesperson admits they
had to fix citation and formatting errors.
The report on children's health contained more than
500 references to studies, government reports, and news
articles, but some references were wrong while other
studies did not exist.
In other cases, the researchers who were cited
said their studies were misinterpreted.
This sounds like AI to me.
The White House called the mistakes minor and
says the substance of the report remains the
same in the corrected version.
I'm sure they used AI for this.
Of course they did.
That's what everyone does.
It's the lazy man's way out.
And this is a botch.
You remember that they changed the CDC recommendations
on specifically the COVID vaccination.
Say we no longer recommend it for healthy
children and for pregnant women.
And then everyone's like, Oh, you haven't changed
your website.
You haven't changed your website yet.
What's wrong with you?
Your website contradicts you.
Oh, crap.
That's exactly what happened, by the way.
Throw it into Chad GPT and we'll fix
it.
It'll all work.
But one thing was finally clarified.
So I promised you that I'd stay on
top of this and the shifting COVID vaccine
policies of the Trump administration have shifted once
again.
The CDC just posted new recommendations that say
healthy children and pregnant women may get COVID
vaccinations instead of saying they should get those
shots.
The change comes days after Secretary Robert F.
Kennedy Jr., a vaccine skeptic, announced COVID vaccines
will no longer be recommended for healthy kids
and pregnant women.
And I checked for you today, and according
to the CDC, and this is important, this
still means health insurers must pay for the
vaccinations.
That's something that was in question after Kennedy's
initial announcement.
That's what they were going for.
Oh, man, we're in trouble.
We're lounging the poor customers of health insurance
by making it's not even we discussed it
to death already.
Do you want to hear the FDA commissioner
being grilled by Margaret Brennan?
Margaret Brennan?
Yeah.
I want to get now into some of
the recommendations that have been very specific this
week from the CDC and you with the
HHS secretary in this video announcement on Tuesday
where Secretary Kennedy said the CDC was removing
the COVID vaccine for healthy children and healthy
pregnant women from its recommended immunization schedule.
He then had a memo.
I like the way she emphasizes healthy.
What I like what she did was removing
and then from the schedule.
A little too much emphasis on removing.
The CDC rescinding recommendations for kids vaccines saying
the known risks That's what she's paid to
do.
Do not outweigh the benefits.
Then late Thursday the CDC said quote shared
clinical decision making which I think is just
talking to your doctor should determine whether kids
get vaccinated.
Can you clearly state what the policy is
because this is confusing.
We believe the recommendation should be with the
patient and their doctor.
So we're going to get away from these
blanket recommendations in healthy young Americans because we
don't want to see we don't well on
the COVID vaccine schedule.
We don't want to see kids kicked out
of school because a 12 year old girl
is not getting her fifth COVID booster shot.
We don't see the data there to support
a young healthy child getting a repeat infinite
annual COVID vaccine.
There's a theory that we should sort of
blindly approve the new COVID boosters and young
healthy kids every year in perpetuity and a
young girl born today should get 80 COVID
MRNA shots or other COVID shots in her
average lifespan.
We're saying that's a theory and we'd like
to check in and get some randomized controlled
data.
It's been about four years since the original
randomized trials.
Okay.
So that's just the beginning.
We are going to get to all the
good stuff.
So the CDC data said 41% of
children age six months to 17 years hospitalized
with COVID between 2022 and 2024 did not
have a known underlying condition.
In other words, they looked healthy.
So COVID was serious.
Wait, stop.
Did she just do one of those percentage
things?
Oh, I think so.
Let's listen again.
So there wasn't a number involved.
It wasn't like 10 kids.
It could be two kids in the whole
world, but that accounts for 41%.
Just a percentage of what?
Let's listen.
2022 and 2024 did not have a known
underlying condition.
Back it up more.
So the CDC data said 41% of
children age six months to 17 years hospitalized
with COVID between 2022 and 2024 did not
have a known underlying condition.
In other words, they looked healthy.
COVID was serious for them.
So first of all, we know the CDC
data is contaminated with a lot of false
positives from incidental positive COVID tests with routine
testing of every kid that walks in the
hospital.
When I go to the ICU, when I
walk to the P, we know that data
historically under the Biden administration did not distinguish
being sick from COVID or an incidental positive
COVID test.
When you go to an ICU in America
and you ask how many people are in
the ICU that are healthy, that are sick
with COVID?
The answer I get again and again is
we haven't seen that in a year or
years.
And so the worst thing you can do
in public health is to put out an
absolute universal recommendation in young healthy kids.
And the vast majority of Americans are saying,
no, we want to see some data.
And you say, forget about the data, just
get it anyway.
Good one by that guy, but it's not
going to help with her.
No, because she has a parray.
So we'd like an evidence-based approach.
Dr. Prasad and I published this in the
New England Journal of Medicine last week.
And we're basically saying we'd like to bring
some confidence back to the public around this
repeat booster strategy theory because- Your statement
was not about repeat boosters.
It says the vaccine is not recommended for
pregnant women.
The vaccine is not recommended for healthy children.
That's different than annual boosters.
At this point, we're dealing- Is it
really, though?
Is the booster different from the vaccine?
Isn't it just the same thing?
Is there a different vial that says this
is a booster?
Good point.
I don't think so.
It's the same shot.
Yeah, but- Yeah, okay.
At this point, it is a booster strategy.
People would be getting the updated shot.
Whether or not a young, healthy- We'd
like to see the data.
We'd love to see that data doesn't exist.
No, no, no, but on a practical level.
She's horrible, this woman.
No, but she's great.
Remember who she works for.
It's not CBS.
She works for Pfizer.
They might as well change the name of
the network to CVS.
If their child has not been vaccinated, are
you recommending that their first encounter with COVID
be an actual infection?
We're not going to push the COVID shot
in young, healthy kids without any clinical trial
data supporting it.
That is a decision between a parent and
their doctor.
I don't know if you know these statistics,
but for 88% of American kids, their
parents have said no to the COVID shot
last season.
The vast majority of Americans are saying no.
Maybe they want to see some clinical data
as well.
Maybe they have concerns about the safety.
I don't want to crowdsource my health guidance.
I want a clear thing.
I don't want to crowdsource my
health guidance.
I want a clear thing.
You don't go with popularity.
You go with data.
Let's see the data.
What she wants is data that says, get
your shot.
She doesn't care about the data.
Does she bring up myocarditis and the fact
that only people that have had this shot
have gotten the myocarditis?
They did a study of a bunch of
youth and nobody with myocarditis has not had
the shot?
In other words, they can't find a case
where people just had it naturally?
Does she bring any of this stuff up
or talk about that at all or talk
about the Ron Johnson report about myocarditis in
kids?
From the CVS broadcast network?
CVS.
Well, that brings me to two boots on
the ground.
I asked you.
You didn't answer the question.
Of course not.
Of course not.
ER nurse.
Hey, Adam.
Recently upped my sustaining donation.
Thank you very much, ER nurse.
I've sent you a few things, but writing
in about the rates of turbo cancers, I'm
an ER nurse.
I had three children in one shift from
ages 10 to 14 with lymphoma.
All vaccinated.
So far I haven't seen it in unvaccinated
people, but everyone has AIDS now from the
shed.
And that's not the shed that contains the
drones.
It's bad around here.
The ER scene is totally different than when
I started in 2017.
And then this one from Mitch from Brisbane.
Pretty horrible news to tell you about the
situation in Australia, but as most of our
Aussie listeners these days have seemed to have
checked out, I think you should know what
the heck is going on here.
And in New Zealand.
Because it's not good.
Two weeks ago, my dad visited us from
New Zealand.
He was not well.
Wobbling on his feet.
Weird pain in his extremities and a feeling
he was going to fall over.
Because I know a lot about vaccines and
vaccine injuries, I thought what he sounded like
neuropathy from a COVID vaccine injury.
But I didn't mention anything because I know
that he hadn't had one since his booster
a few years ago.
Unfortunately, the next day he told me that
when getting his flu vaccine, the lady at
the drugstore offered him the COVID vaccine at
the same time, which, of course, he took.
He has since been diagnosed, and here it
comes, by his doctor as having vaccine intolerance.
This is the new term.
I think it's fantastic.
They've finally come up with something.
Not a vaccine injury.
You have vaccine intolerance, obviously.
Sorry to hear that.
So that's what they're going to go with.
Australia has always been ahead of the curve
on this stuff.
So I think we can look forward to
a lot of vaccine intolerance, which kind of
sucks if you want to get a vaccine
against the new variant we talked about.
So I want to get through a lot
here, but one of the things we've noticed
is this new COVID variant that seems to
be circulating in Asia.
I believe it's NB1.8.1. It's a
variant under monitoring.
I believe it's...
Don't you think it's funny they're using software
upgrade numbers, and instead of just giving it
a name like Omicron, after Omicron, they decided,
let's just see how stupid people are, and
we'll just put together crazy numbers, and so
you have 1.3.6.5 A, and
then they have all these, and they rattled
them off instead of giving them a code
name, which is what they should do.
Well, it's worse than that.
According to your theory, listen again.
That seems to be circulating in Asia.
I believe it's NB1.8.1. That would
be NB1.8.1. B stands for beta.
So they're beta testing this one.
It's a variant under monitoring.
What do we need to know?
Yeah, so this appears to be a sub
-variant of JN1, which has been the dominant
strain, so it's believed that there is...
Who comes up with the numbering scheme?
Why wouldn't it be JN2?
I've never even heard of JN1.
Or JN1.1.1. We've never heard...
Oh, no, actually, that's not true.
JN1.
That was...
JN1 was...
Here it is.
The Food and Drug Administration on Friday authorizing
the newest version of the COVID vaccine from
Novavax.
The FDA says the updated vaccine will target
the currently dominant strain of the virus, the
one called JN1.
Oh, there it is.
We're behind on our version numbers.
Which has been the dominant strain, so it's
believed that there is cross-immunity protection.
It's a soft fork.
The COVID virus is going to continue to
mutate.
It's behaving like a common cold virus.
It's now going to become the fifth coronavirus
that's seasonal that causes about 25% of
the cases...
Hold on.
It's like the common cold virus?
That's what it is?
It is the common cold virus?
And so you're going to get an mRNA
shot for the common cold?
Oh, yeah.
A common cold virus.
It's now going to become the fifth coronavirus
that's seasonal that causes about 25% of
the cases of the common cold.
So you're thinking of it as like a
flu-type variant, just normal fluctuation?
The flu mutates about 34 times more frequently
than COVID.
The COVID variant mutation rate appears to be
a little more stable, but the international bodies
that have provided some guidance on which strain
to target have suggested that either JN1 or
any of these sub-variants would be reasonable
strains to target.
You see, what Marty here, Marty McAree, the
FDA commissioner, what he's done incorrectly here is
he's allowed himself to be suckered in to
a conversation that to someone who's not deconstructing
media on a podcast, sounds like, oh my
goodness, we got the JN1s, we got the
MB-beta-18.1, I better get a
shot!
And he's just, she's lured him into it,
and then thanks him for doing it.
In the meantime, the world moves on, and
you published in the New England Journal of
Medicine on May 20th- Uh-oh.
In that report you referenced, you listed pregnancy
as an underlying medical condition that increases a
person's risk for severe COVID.
You said that.
Then seven days later, you joined in this
video announcement saying you should drop the recommendation
for the COVID vaccine in healthy pregnant women.
So what changed in the seven days?
In the New England Journal of Medicine, we
simply list what the CDC has traditionally defined
as high risk, and we're just saying decide
with your doctor.
We're not saying one way or the other.
And the randomized trial- So here's the
data on pregnant women.
No, what she's saying is doctors are no
good.
What do doctors know?
Doctors, we need the CDC, we need the
government.
Decide with your doctor.
We're not saying one way or the other.
And the randomized trial- So here's the
data.
Doctors need data and information on pregnant women.
A randomized controlled trial was set up, and
it was closed without any explanation.
We wanted to see that trial complete so
women can have information that in a randomized
controlled trial, which is the gold standard, this
is what the data shows.
We don't have those data.
All right.
It is still unclear what pregnant women now
should do until they get the data that
you say- When do they get the
data you're promising?
All these controlled studies.
In the absence of data, they should talk
to their doctor, and their doctor will use
their best wisdom and judgment.
FDA Commissioner, thank you for trying to help
clear this up.
Thanks for trying to clear it up.
And let's end it here.
So you made this pronouncement as well on
pregnant women.
There is data.
Researchers in the UK analyzed a series of
67 studies, which included 1.8 million women.
And the journal BMJ Global Health published it.
People can Google it at home.
And it says the COVID vaccine in pregnant
women is highly effective in reducing the odds
of maternal SARS-CoV-2 infection, hospital admission,
and improves pregnancy outcomes with no serious safety
concerns.
This is data that shows that it is
recommended- In the UK.
Or could be advised for pregnant women to
take this vaccine.
Why do you find otherwise?
There's no randomized controlled trial.
That's the gold standard.
Those 67 studies are mixed.
The data in pregnant women is different for
healthy versus women with a comorbid condition.
So it's a very mixed bag.
So we're saying your obstetrician, your primary care
doctor, and the pregnant woman should together decide
whether or not to get it.
12% of pregnant women last year got
the COVID shot.
So people have serious concerns, and it's probably
because they want to see a randomized trial
data.
Yeah.
Go Google it, I would say.
Go Google it, man.
Go Google it.
Meanwhile, the FDA just approved the new, uh...
What is it?
They have a new name for it.
Ah, where is it?
Hold on a second.
They just approved a new vaccine.
Quote-unquote vaccine.
FDA approves new COVID vaccine.
Yeah.
It has a cool name.
From Moderna.
Ah.
Let me see if I can find it.
I had a really cool name, like...
Oh yeah, here it is.
M NexSpike.
What's that?
So small letter M.
Nex, N-E-X-S-P-I-K
-E.
M NexSpike.
That doesn't sound like something you want to
take.
No, of course not.
And meanwhile, something we discussed early, early, early
on that was happening to certain Asian men
is now doing the rounds once again.
This is Dr. Brian Artis.
Ivermectin molecule will sit on those receptors, but
not as perfectly bound to them as nicotine.
Which is why when people around the world
are using nicotine patches, nicotine gum, tobacco organic
products, even if they've been using Ivermectin for
two years now, trying to resolve their long
COVID symptoms, within 24 hours to 48 hours,
they will usually see all of their COVID
symptoms disappear when adding nicotine.
Because Ivermectin isn't the perfect fit.
Even though it is a fit, it is
not as perfect as nicotine.
So is it coming in and removing the
venom from the receptors and replacing it?
It does.
So it's competing for that space.
It absolutely does.
They publish that it will actually, the body
will release venoms that they're bound to those
receptors and grab and prefers nicotine.
Yeah.
This makes total sense to me.
Well, if you remember in the early days
of COVID.
Yep, this is what I said.
Yeah, this is why.
It was a lot of discussion about people
who were smokers not getting COVID.
You know, Tina just recently had I think
it was probably the Beta M1 8-12257.
She was pretty sick.
You know, she had a cough and it
was only, it was in her head only,
so not a body type flu.
Yeah.
Lasted about three days with a remnant of
a cough.
It used to be called a head cold.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And I was just vaping away as usual
and I didn't get any, a lot of
people had it around here.
A lot of Hill Country people coughing and
wheezing and, you know, I don't know, I
just, I attributed it to my nicotine vape.
I think there's something to it.
A lot of people are talking about this.
Again.
Again.
Five, four years later.
I forgot all about it.
It was a very momentary thing because they
didn't want to push it.
No.
Onto the public consciousness back in the day.
It was...
And they never followed up on it either.
Nobody ever followed up on it.
Well, of course not.
You can't have something simple like a cigarette.
We can't be doing that.
But they definitely are still, you know, even
in Europe, they're going after, oh, nicotine vapes,
oh, can't have vapes.
The pharmaceutical industry is not a fan of
nicotine.
That's very obvious.
All right.
I've got to start it, John.
I'm sure you have something in your vast
array of clips that you'd like to share.
Maybe.
Okay.
Oh, you're going to start what?
Oh, you mean Brooks and Capehart?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Brooks and Capehart still hanging on by a
thread thanks to this show.
Because of your exposure to their nitwit nonsense,
people still tune in to Brooks and Capehart.
Nobody listens to these two guys, and it's
still a shameful that they have them on
because it's like...
I've always been complaining that this is not
a balanced thing because it's not like one
guy says one thing and the other guy
disagrees and says just the opposite.
So you have a balance of opinion which
gives the listener or the viewer maybe some
insight.
You don't get any insight.
But then I realize that they are in
disagreement.
One of them will say Trump is bad,
and the other one will say, no, you're
wrong.
He's worse than you think.
There's some disagreement.
So we have this situation with the two
of them on the last Friday show talking
about Musk.
Unfortunately, I have mush written here on one
of the clips.
Which is pretty much the same thing.
And we have...
They're going to bring up, what do you
think of...
Because Musk left the White House, or left
Doge because his time was up basically within
a couple of days.
And they had a big confab.
I wrote about it in the newsletter.
He got a golden key.
And he got a golden key to the
White House, which means he can always show
up, supposedly.
Yeah, right.
Right.
So they're going to discuss this on the
PBS NewsHour.
So we have some opinions that maybe give
us some insight into the news.
But no, we have he's bad, and the
other guy says, no, he's worse than that.
Okay, so here we have BNC on Mush
1.
And Jonathan Capehart, associate editor of the Washington
Post.
Great to see you both.
Let's jump in with the headline about Elon
Musk.
Hold on.
So they don't actually even have their own
show?
They just have a segment?
Yeah, the Brooks and Capehart is a segment.
Oh, okay.
You just figured this out?
It's always been a segment on the Friday
version of the NewsHour.
It's so obscure.
It wraps the news.
This is the idea is to wrap up
the news with some great opinions that maybe
we can get some understanding of the week's
news.
Oh, okay.
Let's jump in with the headline about Elon
Musk.
We reported on earlier today.
Today was his last day as a special
government employee.
We had that extraordinary press conference.
We reported on the Oval Office.
And there are a lot of questions about
what exactly he and his Doge team were
able to do and actually accomplish.
Jonathan, when you look at this step back,
this unprecedented chapter of a private, unelected billionaire
who had all of this power in the
executive office, what do you think the impact
was?
What did he get done?
Well, he got a lot done, but it
wasn't anything good.
I remember him running around the CPACs.
It was a CPAC with a chainsaw.
But really, he took a wrecking ball to
the federal government.
Just whacked through agencies and departments while at
the same time scooping up all of our
private data.
And so he leaves Washington after 130 so
days, leaving behind just the wreckage of what
his Doge team has done.
Wow.
What analysis.
A wrecking...
So, let me guess.
On one hand, he's going to say a
wrecking ball, but didn't save anything.
I'm sure they'll say that.
He scooped up...
Scooped up...
I've noticed the news media doing a lot
of this.
Trump's railing.
Elon Musk is scooping.
That's not really...
That's all opinion.
No, this has become all opinion, but it's
mediocre opinion.
It's just one-sided checklist opinion.
Checklist opinion.
That's exactly what it is.
So he has to be...
Instead of somebody on the other side, some
Trump supporter, somebody who's a Republican on PBS
NewsHour where they're trying to defund for good
reason, instead of somebody coming along and saying,
well, here's what he actually may have accomplished,
blah, blah, blah.
It's something good.
No, no.
Now we're going to get the, oh, he's
worse than you think from Brooks.
David, how do you look at it?
What's his legacy, if we know that yet?
Yeah, I'm not sure.
It was wreckage.
There was wreckage if you're at NIH.
There were wreckage at certain agencies.
But the guy only saved $65 billion out
of a multi-trillion dollar budget.
So as a budget matter, you would not
say...
Hold on a second.
What happened to 165?
He's wrong.
Okay.
This is another thing.
Of course, she will never push back on
anything.
Navarro is a woman, whoever she is.
She's no good.
She gets paid big money.
The guy only saved $65 billion out of
a multi-trillion dollar budget.
So as a budget matter, you would not
say he had a big effect.
But he did manage to destroy NIH and
USAID.
And the USAID one is the one I
haven't gotten over.
I haven't gotten over?
I still haven't gotten over USAID.
I'm still reeling from it.
By the way, as a small aside, the
Times of London now spells USAID capital U,
capital S, capital A, lowercase I-D.
Why?
To make it sound like it's USAID.
Like farm aid.
Instead of international development?
Yes, exactly.
I think that's a...
This is what Brooks is pushing to.
Wait until you hear what he has to
say.
Here we go.
But he did manage to destroy NIH and
USAID.
And the USAID one is the one I
haven't gotten over.
He should be wearing a black armband for
this.
USAID black armband.
And so there's folks at Boston University who
count.
How many people have died because of what
Doge did at USAID?
How many people have died because of what
Doge did at USAID?
And USAID was a very ill-managed organization.
That's true.
But according to the Boston University folks, so
far 55,000 adults have died of AIDS
in the four months since Trump was elected.
What?
Okay, he's making it sound like USAID.
Okay, that's great.
6,000 children are dead because of what
Doge did.
That's just PEPFAR, the HIV.
You add them all up, that's 300,000
dead and we're four months in.
Now you add, accumulate that over four years,
the number of dead grows very high.
Five million!
There are mass murderers in the world.
Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Stalin.
Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Stalin.
We don't have anybody on the list from
America.
And I don't think it's the same as
committing the kind of genocide they did.
Genocide?
But by taking away that agency and being
at least semi-responsible for the deaths, probably
by the end of this, hundreds of thousands,
if not millions of people, that's Elon Musk's
legacy.
And the people who work at Tesla and
SpaceX, they want to think about that.
Alright, I take it all back.
It was well worth it.
Clip of the day.
What a horrible individual.
He equates Pol Pot with Elon Musk.
Can you believe this guy?
And they don't push back on this?
It's unbelievable.
This is PBS.
They let him equate Pol Pot with Elon
Musk, a public servant.
What I'm trying to figure out is they
didn't do away with PEPFAR, which is the
President's emergency plan for AIDS relief?
No, they didn't.
They just moved it.
Did they move it into the State Department?
And where's George Soros' money?
Where's the Gates Foundation money for this?
You don't need USAID for everything.
He's killing children.
It's not USAID.
It's killing 6,000 kids because of Trump.
No, not even Trump.
Musk.
Musk is a baby killer.
No, but he did say since the Trump
administration began.
This guy, this is unconscionable as far as
I'm concerned.
Meanwhile, by the way, after he said this
comment, I do have a very short bonus
clip.
What do you think her follow-up was?
This is the clip of his host kicker.
So he goes on and equates Elon Musk
with Pol Pot.
And the host, instead of anybody at PBS
pushing back on this crazy analogy.
Wait, wait.
Let me guess.
Let me guess.
Did she say almost as bad as Hitler?
Here she goes.
And those are real lives.
It's worth pointing out.
Every single one of them lost.
Real lives.
Every single one of them lost.
Because of Musk.
Yeah, that's...
Again, this is the mind control.
This is the dumbing down and people who
already believed...
And I would say that my whole family
is certainly on the intelligence side and government
side.
They all watch PBS News Hour.
They read the Washington Post and New York
Times and add to it, oh Trump he's
trying to defund them, taking away that whole
1%.
It just becomes...
The 1%.
It just becomes more realistic to them and
more true.
And to understand these people, you have to
understand what they're consuming.
And yeah, this is traitorous, I would say.
You are literally giving the American people a
portion of the American people very very very
poor information and amazing levels of hyperbole and
just propagandistic, I guess.
Well, I have one more clip from the
series of this particular episode and this is
Brooks again.
This is a WTF clip, which you have
to listen to carefully, especially at the end
and try to figure out...
Brooks is beside himself.
He's shaking, by the way, the whole time
and he's nervous looking and he's just bordering
on tears and they're talking about town halls
and I only have...
Capehart wasn't even...
Capehart's pretty dull, but here's Brooks on town
halls and he just loses it again and
it's just an embarrassment.
And when I see the town hall videos
that I've seen, it looks like Democrats talking
and being really angry, which they should be.
And they should do resistance and they should
show up at town hall meetings and they
should make themselves heard, but it's not the
same as Republicans beginning to flake off.
We just don't see that in the numbers.
But what's going to happen?
To me, it's not even anything that's happened
so far.
Donald Trump is increasing the national debt of
his Big Better Biddle, whatever that thing's called,
goes through by $6 trillion.
How inflationary will that be?
To dump that much money into the money
supply.
At the same time, tariffs are going up.
Steel tariffs were just raised again today, raising
the cost of anything made out of steel
and anything made out of children's toys.
Since when do we have steel children's toys?
He says anything made out of steel and
anything, what he actually said was anything made
out of steel and anything made out of
children's toys.
Wow.
She didn't catch it, he didn't catch it,
nobody caught it.
I mean, it was obvious when he said
it that he made a mistake and he
never corrected it.
Let's just dissect this for a second.
Because there was a couple of things in
there that I thought were pretty insane.
So let me just go back again.
And when I see the Town Hall videos
that I've seen, it looks like Democrats talking.
Because it is Democrats.
It's Democrats showing up to Town Hall.
It's not like only Republicans go to Town
Halls.
We've been through this.
Some of them are literally bused in and
hired for it.
But in general, people in towns who hate
Trump, they're going to go to the Town
Hall.
It doesn't matter if you have a Republican
representative.
They are Democrats.
Being really angry, which they should be.
And they should do resistance and they should
show up at Town Hall meetings.
Do resistance?
They should do resistance, yes.
What are you going to do today?
I'm going to go do some resistance down
at Town Hall.
And they should do resistance and they should
show up at Town Hall meetings and they
should make themselves heard.
But it's not the same as Republicans beginning
to flake off.
We just don't see that in the numbers.
But what's going to happen?
To me, it's not even anything that's happened
so far.
Donald Trump is increasing the national debt.
His Big Better Biddle, whatever that thing is
called.
Let's not pretend you don't know what it's
called.
That's just like, that's childish.
Yes, it is constantly, by the way.
The Big Better Bill.
You mean Bill Black Better from Biden?
No, it's called the Big Beautiful Bill.
It's stupid, but that's what it's called and
you know it.
It goes through by $6 trillion.
I think it's $4 trillion.
I thought it was $3 trillion.
I don't know about...
It raises...
It's not $6 trillion.
It raises the debt limit.
And it's only the debt limit.
It doesn't mean anything is going to happen.
It doesn't mean the spending for $6 trillion.
And from what I understand, it's supposed to
be over 10 years, so $400 billion a
year.
Hey, it's definitely not what was promised, but
let's be a little factual.
How inflationary will that be?
Well, I don't know.
Are you an economist?
To dump that much money into the money
supply.
Oh, he's going to dump that.
He makes it sound like $6 trillion is
going to be dumped into the money supply.
Oh, Lord, please.
That would be quite something.
Bitcoin to the moon.
It goes through by $6 trillion.
How inflationary will that be?
To dump that much money into the money
supply.
At the same time, tariffs are going up.
Steel tariffs were just raised again today.
Raising the cost of anything made out of
steel and anything made out of children's toys.
Raising the cost of anything made out of
steel from other countries, the reason it was
done is because we got a big investor
in U.S. steel, Nippon Steel, and quite
honestly, I think it's pretty amazing that here
it is.
Here's President Trump.
Some breaking news now from a rally in
Pittsburgh.
U.S. President Donald Trump has announced that
he's doubling his tariff on international steel imports.
We were getting our steel from Mexico.
We were getting our steel from Canada.
We were getting our steel from every place,
but right here, we are going to be
imposing a 25% increase.
We're going to bring it from 25%
to 50% the tariffs on steel into
the United States of America, which will even
further secure the steel industry in the United
States.
Trump is raising the sweeping 25% tariffs,
which he imposed How is that sweeping?
It's pretty targeted.
It's not sweeping.
Trump is raising the sweeping 25% tariffs,
which he imposed on steel in March, on
top of duties on aluminum as well.
The new rate will likely add more chaos
to Canada and America's intertwined car industries, while
also raising manufacturing costs for Americans.
No!
That just is bullcrap.
We had a steel industry and I would
say that probably started to close down, what,
40 years ago?
Tina grew up in Indiana, where the whole
town was working in the steel mill.
We had a steel mill down when I
was a kid nearby where I lived, Pacific
State Steel.
We actually had a steel mill in Emeryville.
It was one of these modern ones, and
that was in the 70s and I think
probably closed down in the mid-80s.
Okay, so that's 40 years ago.
Yeah, 40 years ago.
You're right, 40 years ago.
If it was closed down in 85, that's
40 years ago.
We started importing steel, and President Trump was
saying, we're going to bring it back.
It's a matter of national security.
That's always the ploy.
Arguably, yes, if we got into a war.
And I think it's true.
If we got into a war, we're not
able to make our own steel.
You can't crank up a steel mill overnight.
You have to have it there.
You can expand one easier than you can
make one from scratch.
So we get investment from Nippon Steel.
They don't really get to buy it.
They become investors and we have the golden
share.
The golden share.
Which basically means we're still in charge.
And how is that going to raise the
cost on manufacturing?
If it's American-made steel, the tariffs may
raise the cost in the interim, but U
.S. Steel makes steel, correct?
They're still making steel?
Yeah.
They're just not making enough of it?
Or what is the problem?
It's too expensive?
What is the issue?
It's a little pricey.
It's not as competitive as the cheap steel
you can get from Asia.
Cheap, crappy steel.
You can get some cheap steel.
We had a problem here.
The new Bay Bridge that was built here
was built with Chinese steel.
It's fallen apart.
Exactly.
Back to Elon Musk for a moment.
Here is the report on him leaving Doge
as his time was up.
The chainsaw for bureaucracy!
Elon Musk came to Washington with a chainsaw
and he now leaves with a key in
the dust still settling.
Elon has worked tirelessly helping lead the most
sweeping and consequential government reform program in generations.
As head of the Department of Government Efficiency,
Musk promised to cut $2 trillion from the
federal budget.
That goal was later halved.
By the middle of next year, with the
support of the President and Congress, could we
achieve $5 trillion of savings?
I think so.
As of today, Doge's website has the number
at $175 billion.
Almost all of that is in labor, meaning
these are people's jobs.
Our Hearst television data team has tracked at
least 49,000 federal layoffs across dozens of
agencies.
It's hard to even put into words how
hard it feels.
This is great.
They never ever show somebody laid off from
America from the Midwest.
No, no.
It's the elites in D.C. This is
horrible!
Across dozens of agencies.
It's hard to even put into words how
hard it feels.
The impact widespread from the FDA to Veterans
Affairs to the Social Security Administration.
They're imposing this enormous burden on seniors without
any real sense of what the benefit of
that is.
A new report from the Center on Budget
and Policy Priority shows cuts to Social Security
phone services will force nearly 2 million more
in-person visits each year.
In 31 states, at least one in four
seniors will have to drive over an hour
round trip.
I think Elon Musk's legacy will have been
that his time in government did not lead
to improvements in government services or in people's
lives.
That's a professor, by the way.
Despite the fallout, the president made it clear.
We're totally committed to making the doge cuts
permanent.
Republicans in Congress are looking to make some
of those doge cuts permanent by passing the
president's so-called One Big Beautiful Bill.
Musk has publicly criticized that legislation.
He says it undermines the work he's done
with doge because it adds to the deficit.
Musk's role at doge was as a special
government employee which limited his services to 130
days.
Well, at least they did that.
They did add it at the end.
And, of course, the news media still had
to do something.
And what did they do?
Like, oh, yeah, I know what you're going
to do.
He's a druggie.
Were you aware of Elon Musk's regular drug
use?
No, I wasn't.
I think he's fantastic.
I think Elon is a fantastic guy.
And, uh...
Aren't you troubled by the news report?
I'm not troubled by anything with Elon.
I think he's fantastic.
Did a great job.
And, you know, doge continues.
And by the time it's finished, we'll have
numbers that'll knock your socks off.
It's going to be, uh...
He did a fantastic job.
And he didn't need it.
He didn't need to do it.
Yeah, what about his drug use?
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
They're trying anything.
Trump hates drugs.
Bugs.
Get him on that, man.
Let's get him on that.
Actually, that's probably...
There was some thinking along those lines, I'm
sure.
Trump doesn't even drink coffee.
Oh, really?
Which we only learned this year.
He drinks Diet Coke, though.
That'll kill you.
So did you see the very highly controversial
post that President Trump put on his truth
social?
Which one?
It's a picture of him, and it says
at the top, he's on a mission from
God, and nothing can stop what's coming.
You don't have not seen this.
So, of course, he's on a mission from
God as a throwback to the Blues Brothers
movie.
But, okay.
Nothing can stop what's coming.
So, well, we have to roll out some
anti-God stuff.
Callback, not a throwback.
Callback.
Thank you for correcting me.
So, this is an interview with Anthea Butler.
And she is a postdoctoral fellow in race,
religion, and gender at Princeton.
You know what's coming, baby.
Wow.
She also wrote the book White Evangelical Racism.
This is one I hadn't heard yet.
The Politics of Morality in America.
You'd be in this category.
You racist bastard.
Exactly why I want to play these clips.
Didn't you have a podcast with a black
dude?
I did, yes.
How could you do that?
Well, it ended after 100 episodes.
I cut him off.
I shut him down.
It's like I can't work with a black
man.
No, he had a job, and he quit.
No, we said we would do 100 episodes,
and we did 100 episodes.
So, this is about Christian nationalism.
Which, yes, I agree.
I think I fit that precisely.
But I would like to push back a
little bit on this lady.
Anthea Butler, thank you so much for joining
me on Upfront.
You're welcome.
Thank you, Mark.
For years, we've heard about the rise of
Christian nationalism in the United States.
Since Donald Trump took office, the political influence
of this particular group of Christians has only
grown.
But I still don't think we necessarily have
a good sense of what Christian nationalism actually
is.
How would you explain it?
Oh, I'm so happy.
I get to hear what Christian nationalism is.
Finally, finally.
I would explain it somewhat like this.
First of all, you think about America as
being a Christian nation, right?
That's something that's just ingrained in everybody.
But Christian nationalists take it to the extreme.
Is that ingrained in you, John?
Is it ingrained in you?
I mean, the roots are Christian.
There's a lot of, in God we trust,
on the bill and all the rest of
it.
And there's a lot of connection.
But I don't know.
I thought we were a pluralistic country.
Well, let's just talk about the roots.
The roots.
First of all, you think about America as
being a Christian nation, right?
That's something that's just ingrained in everybody.
But Christian nationalists take it to the extreme.
Here we go.
They believe that the founding of this nation
was for Christians and Christians only.
Stop.
No, no.
It was Bible believers who said, we will
start here to disciple to all the nations.
It was not for Christians and Christians only.
That the white men who came over, whether
they were Puritans or others that came over,
this was their divine right to be here.
That God created this nation to be protected.
And that this was supposed to be for
Christians and Christians only.
No, that's just not true.
She's full of shit, this woman.
She's a professor.
And everybody else, just not really particularly involved
in the everyday affairs of the nation.
The way I like to talk about Christian
nationalism is you can't separate it from race.
You need to think about whiteness when you
talk about Christian nationalism.
Are you going to bring in cannibalism too?
If only.
It's only for white people.
She makes this twist within 30 seconds.
One of the largest groups, you know, we
always have to remember one of the largest
groups of fundamentalist Christians are black people.
In fact, it was the blacks in California
that pushed back on the gay marriage to
such an extreme that nobody wants to talk
about it to this day that it got
rebuked when it was a referendum.
And I have some referendum clips today, by
the way.
They're trying to eliminate this sort of thing
where the public voted, no, we don't want
gay marriage.
And they tracked it down to the black
Christians mostly.
You need to think about whiteness when you
talk about Christian nationalism because there's something implicit
in that term Christian nationalism that also means
white.
So Christian nationalism means white.
Just keep that in mind, okay?
By the way, I was at church this
morning.
We got a lot of brown people.
We got a lot of black people.
We got all kinds of color people.
Doesn't seem like they're...
Get out!
Get out, you!
You're not white!
If you're an evangelical Christian, if you are
a Christian nationalist...
I am one.
I'm just going to say it.
And you want somebody that embodies your values,
whether we agree with those values or not,
around sexual propriety, around honesty, around humility, around
grace, around mercy, around all these things...
That's only for Christians!
It wouldn't seem to many people that Donald
Trump would be the poster child of that.
Why would he become the person that they
would think would be God's messenger on earth?
Oh man, do you not know that Jesus
liked the sinners?
Why did they make this leap of faith?
Thank you.
That's the whole point.
God uses the sinners, the tax collectors, the
prostitutes.
So let me say something that's probably going
to be really scary for some folks.
Uh-oh.
Okay.
Are you ready?
Could be scary.
I'm seated for this.
Could be scary for some folks.
Race trumps religion.
By the way, for a black professor to
be doing...
Isn't that racism by itself?
In other words, in this particular case, because
he appeals to their whiteness, they are able
to overlook all of these other things that
might not be moral.
I think that's one of the most important
things to talk about when we talk about
evangelicals, is that we try not to do...
We try not to say, oh, they're really
racist or whatever.
But I wrote a whole book about this,
where I talk about the politics of morality.
And the politics of morality means that basically
if you have a white man who has
a position of power, like Trump, and he
doesn't seem to follow all these tenets of
Christianity, then he's more forgivable than somebody who
doesn't have a lot of money and who
is seen to be a troublemaker and might
be brown, black, or yellow, or whatever.
They don't have the same kind of...
They don't have the same kind of power
that a Donald Trump would have.
I'm just aghast by this.
Yeah, sir.
This is all to be...
I've heard this sort of argument before.
She's boring.
Not that the clip is necessarily.
I'm just saying she's a boring creep.
Well, she does take it to a conclusion.
But first, can you think of any other
white nationalists, Christian nationalists, in the Trump administration?
Well, there's...
Come on, man.
I would say Pete Hegseth comes close.
There are figures in Trump's circle who are
very closely associated with Christian nationalism and white
supremacists.
People like Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth.
He's now a white supremacist.
Pete Hegeseth.
Who even wrote a book called American Crusade.
And in that book, he said, we don't
want to fight, but like our fellow Christians
1,000 years ago, we must.
How does having someone like Hegeseth influence public
policy?
Well, that's dangerous because it really influences public
policy in different ways.
I should know this because basically when he
took a visit to the Naval Academy, they
pulled my book along with 300 other books.
So that's number one.
It wasn't to cite the book as a...
It had something to do with race, right?
So that's the first thing.
But I think the way that that influences
public policy is this.
If you think about him being over the
Department of Defense, then you have people who
are talking about our military having to basically
accede to Christian beliefs.
And we have many people who are not
Christian who are in the military and all
branches of the military.
And so when you have a leader like
that, that is going to seep down to
the ranks.
Oh, no.
People might have Christian beliefs.
So this, of course, leads to a danger
and a threat to democracy, obviously.
You mentioned Pete Hegeseth, but also we could
talk about Russ Vought, the key architect behind
Project 2025.
House Speaker Mike Johnson, who called the separation
of church and state in the United States
a misnomer.
These are people very highly ranking in U
.S. government.
I guess my question is, with individuals like
these in positions of power, how real is
the possibility that the United States could shift
from a democracy to a theocracy?
Absolutely real.
This is what's so great.
These people don't even know that there's no
such thing in the Constitution as the separation
of church and state.
But okay.
It's already happening.
I think that people who think that it's
not happening should take another look at the
kinds of rules that are being put down.
If we even think about just things that
are happening in the states right now where
people are being told they need to put
up 10 commandments in the schools, or you
need to buy the Trump Bible for $59
.95 in Oklahoma.
Nobody needs to buy anything.
What is she talking about?
That's not even for sale anymore, is it?
It wasn't even a Trump Bible.
People need to buy the Trump Bible.
Why would anyone need to buy it?
What's she talking about?
Or you need to think about how we
think about abortion.
You think about the fall versus row versus
wave here a couple years ago.
All of these things are really important and
speak to this idea about democracy.
I think one of the ones that people
don't even think about very much is this
idea that was floated by the U.S.
government that we give $5,000 to people
who have a newborn baby.
Who gets to get that $5,000?
Does a black woman get that $5,000?
Does a white woman who's married get $5
,000?
Holy crap!
What is she thinking?
Of course the black woman gets the $5
,000.
What, does she think that the black woman's
not going to get it?
What evidence does she have for that assertion?
None!
But now it's going to take a nice
turn.
Did this guy push back on that?
No, of course not.
The guy should have said, well, a black
woman's going to get it, so is a
Mexican woman or a Mexican-American or a
Jewish woman.
They're all going to get it.
It's women, not about the race that they
are representing.
So he should have said that, but he
didn't.
It's television, man.
What is he doing?
Just lapping it up?
Is he naked, sitting there jerking off in
front of her?
I want to explore another dimension of Christian
nationalism.
For over a year and a half, we've
been watching Israel commit a genocide in Gaza.
Here we go.
With U.S. support.
During this time the Christian Zionist movement has
been one of the most vocal supporters of
these efforts.
Now we have the Christian Zionist movement.
I didn't get my card.
While not all Christian nationalists are Zionists, there
does seem to be considerable overlap.
Can you explain what Christian Zionism is?
It's a Venn diagram, you see.
Christian Zionism is a belief that the nation
of Israel is a chosen nation, first of
all, that God, you know, Jesus comes from
Israel and all of this stuff.
So you put the biblical...
Is that biblical Israel or is that, like,
the government?
Biblical Israel, but it's also kind of mixed
in with the government, right?
That's number one.
But the second part of it, which I
think is really important, and we have to
think about organizations like Christians United for Israel,
is that Israel is very important for Christians
because if you believe that Jesus is going
to come back, where does Jesus come back
to?
The Plain and the Ghetto.
He comes back there...
What did she say?
The Plain and the Ghetto?
What did she just say?
No, it's that town up in...
Oh, yeah, where he's coming back.
Yes, of course.
By the way, this is like a complete
conflation with the Dominionism, which is a kind
of a...
definitely a...
I would call a schistic offshoot that was...
Yes.
It's minor, but it's interesting.
It's a Venn diagram.
But they're just trying to slam everybody who's
not a communist.
Basically, this is a pro-socialist argument, and
these are two socialists that are both atheists,
obviously.
And I don't know why you're playing this
clip now.
Well, because the next clip and the last
clip will make it understandable.
Jesus comes back to the Plain and the
Ghetto.
He comes back there to fight Satan and
do all this stuff.
So it's about end times beliefs.
So for Christians who believe this way, they
believe that the nation of Israel is a
very important part of fulfilling biblical prophecy.
Okay.
So what does this all lead to?
It's very obvious.
And this is the brain twister of it
all.
It's not just that Christian nationalist eschatology, their
sort of vision of how the end of
days happens, is tied up in politics.
It seems to be an anti-Semitic narrative
as well.
What?
The Christian Zionist nationalists are anti-Semitic.
Okay, now I get it.
Version of events.
Jesus comes back, but Jews are either killed
or forcibly converted.
Exactly.
They're not forcibly converted.
That's great.
No, they don't.
They believe that this is what it's supposed
to be.
That the two of these are going to
come together.
And they don't see that as being anti
-Semitic.
The ways in which things are playing out
right now are very interesting.
I've asked people this a lot of times.
Do you realize they really want you to
become Christian in the end?
And they're like, oh yeah, but it's okay.
Would I be going too far to say
that many of these Christian nationalists are pro
-Israel and anti-Semitic?
Yeah, but I don't know that all of
them would realize that they're anti-Semitic.
And I think that's the point here.
They think that because they love the nation
of Israel and that they want to see
Jesus come back, that these things are not
incompatible.
Ah, that's fantastic.
It's just some of the thinking out there.
You're going to hear a lot more of
that.
Trust me.
There's so much hate about Trump, like, oh,
he's a mission from God.
There's going to be a lot more of
this.
Anyway.
This is the result, in fact, the clippage
that you played goes to boneheads.
It's all a result of that image or
that comment that you talked about at the
beginning from Trump.
He is a troller, and he trolled this
whole segment of the show.
Yeah, and he's going to keep doing it.
He's a troller.
People should stop getting suckered left and right
by this guy who's a genius at it.
He was a social media president.
But, you know, she's got a book to
sell, so it's an opportunity to talk about
her book.
Who's going to buy her book?
She's already, it's apparent she's an idiot.
So then Tulsi Gabbard, I don't know if
you caught this, came out and declassified documents
from the Biden administration about how the Biden
administration labeled, tracked, targeted American citizens, labeled them
as domestic violent extremists.
Yeah, I almost had a clip.
There's some guy ranting about it.
I don't know if I have a clip
on that.
I don't think I clipped it.
But yes, this is a good one.
I have two clips from Tulsi Gabbard explaining
exactly what it is and what they did.
And this document is in the show notes
if you want to go take a look
at it.
What was done under the Biden administration?
Was it they were saying that everyone who
opposed, say, mask mandates or the vaccination of
children are domestic violent extremists?
Or were they saying that those are opinions
often held by domestic violent extremists?
Which is actually a good question, considering he
didn't read the document.
Why would you?
Well, that's a very good question.
When you look at the language of these
documents that I've declassified, first the strategic implementation
plan of the Biden administration's designation of potential
violent domestic extremists.
It really talks about people who may likely
turn out to be domestic violent extremists, or
those who may likely turn to violence because
of these specific quote-unquote ideologies that they
hold.
And there's a consistent thread through here that
these ideologies that they are designating as turning
into potentially violent activities, or being manifested in
violent activities, happen to be those of people
who were using their First Amendment rights to
oppose certain policies of the Biden administration.
And while some of the examples that are
focused on there have to do with those
who opposed the COVID vaccine mandates, those who
opposed the mask mandates, parents who were concerned
that their children going to school may be
forcibly vaccinated with the COVID vaccine without the
consent or awareness of parents.
The list goes on and on.
I wonder if they have a file on
us.
Oh, I'm sure they do.
You can get it for you.
It's probably up in the lunchroom.
It's not supposed to.
As long as they get the URL correct.
Yeah, please.
It's noagendashow.net, everybody.
Yeah, .net.
Here's the second part.
It wasn't just about vaccines, obviously.
But it's not exclusive to this.
In some of these reports that we've declassified,
it shows that people who were opposed to
Biden's border policy, for example, could therefore have
propensities to join a militia or could become
these domestic violent extremists that we're talking about
here.
And again, it's important to look at this
in the totality and the sequence of how
this happened.
These documents were issued in December of 2021.
You remember very well, Will, the speech, the
ominous speech that President Biden gave in 2022,
where with this red background and Marines standing
in the background, he issued an address to
the nation warning the American people that Donald
J.
Trump and MAGA Republicans pose a direct threat
to the fabric of our republic.
And then you put that together with how
the FBI and others within the Biden administration
directed social media companies to censor Americans and
undermine our First Amendment rights because, of course,
the social media companies don't want to be
in a position to support the spread of
domestic violent extremism.
So when you look at all of these
things together, you understand at its core the
thing that I commit as the American people
to root out, which is the weaponization and
politicization of the intelligence community and national security
state against the American people.
There you go.
Of course, exactly as we discussed and surmised.
It is very disturbing.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, we nailed it.
Daddy Longlegs is back.
Well, you know, yes, I took it for
the next newsletter.
I've got some pictures.
He has that, I don't know who that
is, but the mask is pretty obvious now.
The mask is really obvious.
The one side is caved in.
The wrinkles in the forehead are asymmetrical, and
one side has got just a bunch of
permanent ones, and then he leans in on
somebody and raises his eyebrows and it wrinkles
on one side of the mask.
You see the back of his neck.
You can see the mask kind of bunching
up.
You know, somebody just grabbed that thing, and
his hairline, the hair is totally fake.
It's very Biden-like hair.
Yeah.
You want me to play the clip?
I have an alternative theory that I need
to discuss about it, but I think it's
worth just listening to him, because this was
the Biden who got very, like, at the
end of this clip, he gets right in
the reporter's face.
It's gross.
I can't imagine what his breath is like.
Former President Joe Biden appeared at a Memorial
Day service in Delaware today.
He spoke at the event, his first public
comment since he was diagnosed with an aggressive
form of prostate cancer.
Action News reporter Rebecca Hendrickson has the update.
Can you stop the clip for a second?
Yeah.
There is a, I noticed this because it's
starting to show up as a word.
The word to look for, which is code
for MRNA is aggressive form.
Aggressive form, yes.
We noticed this.
They were all saying aggressive in quotes even.
Aggressive, aggressive.
He spoke at the event, his first public
comments since he was diagnosed with an aggressive
form of prostate cancer.
Action News reporter Rebecca Hendrickson has the update
on how the former president...
Can you stop it again?
Yeah, sure.
I'm sorry.
No, it's okay.
But have you ever noticed the use of
the word aggressive form of cancer say previous
to 2020 let's say or 2018?
No.
Do you remember that ever being used like
that?
No.
Aggressive form?
I bet you I could do an Ngram
search and the problem is it's kind of
tough to do.
Yes.
But aggressive, the aggressive cancers are a new
phenomenon.
Yes.
Turbo cancers.
Aggressive.
Diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer.
Action News reporter Rebecca Hendrickson has the update
on how the former president says he is
feeling.
I asked President Biden why it was important
for him to come to this event despite
his diagnosis.
He said because he's loyal.
This event means a lot to him and
his family.
The expectation is we're going to be able
to beat this.
There's no, it's not in any organ.
My bones are strong.
I hadn't penetrated.
This is interesting.
The story was that it was in his
bones, metastasized to his bones and here he
says, my organs are healthy.
My bones are good.
It's not, it hasn't penetrated my bones.
That's what he's literally saying.
I find that contrary to the reporting.
The expectation is we're going to be able
to beat this.
There's no, it's not in any organ.
My bones are strong.
I hadn't penetrated.
So I'm feeling good.
Former President Joe Biden addressing his health for
the first time since being diagnosed with an
aggressive form of prostate cancer saying he's started
treatments.
It's all a matter of taking a pill.
One particular pill.
And for the next six weeks and then
another one.
This at a Memorial Day service at Veterans.
Is that the treatment?
One particular pill?
One pill once every six weeks?
Is that the treatment for this aggressive?
I believe the treatment that he's, I think
the pill he's talking about is a chemo
pill?
A pill that reduces testosterone.
Okay.
He's transitioning.
I think that's the only thing I can
imagine because I've listened to enough of this
crap that that seems to be the thing
you have to do.
And so I think that must be what
he's referring to.
What else could it be?
So Clip Custodian just did a Google Trends
of aggressive and so you see it.
It's kind of a slow upturn.
So look at December 2010.
We have 12.
I'm looking at this January 2016 20 kind
of stays around 20.
Then it's in 2023.
It starts moving up towards the 30s and
then all of a sudden May 2025 spikes
to 40 higher even so it's like a
hockey stick at the end of the curve.
Yes, it's a new they decided to use
it instead of turbo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Aggressive.
And for the next six weeks and then
another one This at a Memorial Day service
at Veterans Memorial Park in Newcastle, Delaware where
he spoke to the crowd of politicians veterans
and gold star families Our troops don't wear
a uniform that says I'm a Democrat or
I'm a Republican says I'm an American While
the event was held after Memorial Day it's
still a significant day for the Biden family.
Today is the 10 year anniversary of his
son Biden's death.
When I asked why he came to this
event, President Biden gave a passionate response which
is code for he got in my face
because I'm loyal I do it every damn
year from the very beginning.
I never forget where I came from.
That's why so forgets where he came from.
What's that got to do with the press
of bread.
So alternative theory, which I do want to
throw out there because who knows that it
may not be a mask, but this could
that this Biden could be a form of
what we call rapid human cloning in the
United States What was that?
I'm sorry Rapid human cloning Uh oh Second
half of show We're in a theremin We're
an hour and a half in Rapid human
cloning.
The origin comes from the intelligence arm of
the military Uh and this apparently started during
Eisenhower's presidency.
There are cloning facilities around the world there
are different types of clones have handlers, owners
and controllers so the handlers don't know these
people are clones, but they understand these like
doctors and people who handle them the owners.
Now this is sometimes wealthy individuals is not
just government, but it can be Hollywood people
can be like Bill Gates.
It can be all kinds of people who
just want to be safe Uh and the
reason why these clones aren't exactly the same.
So the reason why this Biden clone is
a foot taller is because they basically they
clone these people and they grow them within,
I'm just reading it okay they grow them
within 5 to 6 months and because you
can't really control, you know since you're doing
it in 5 to 6 months you don't
have the 80 years of diet and all
the different things that the Biden clone might
have done.
So that's why you get slight differences, can
be differences to ears, you know they don't
actually have DNA Um and this really began
with Bill Clinton in the 90's apparently Uh
and Biden is what we would call the
absolute prime example of a rapidly cloned human
being.
So I was asked to have an open
mind about it and I have an open
mind about it I think the mask is
more likely just saying, but We know the
mask technology exists to an extreme.
It was already good in the 60's.
And it was good in the 60's and
is apparently now great but looking at this
mask, it's not that great.
It's not that great Yeah, it's all bunched
up in his neck His neck, but it's
the forehead the various forehead, if people can
go back and look at these clips, I
have a few screenshots of some of it
which I'll put in the next newsletter It's
like No I know It's good to have
an alternative I'm not going to moan too
much about it an alternative theory that's out
there Anything's possible Now of course the Pleiadians
are brought into this and that's where it
gets a little kooky I think it's interesting,
it would bring in an idea that you
could have rapid human cloning, but you can't
land on the moon in 1969 So you
have a slight mismatch of what you accept
as scientific truth I said I'm just reading
it, I didn't say I accept it as
scientific truth but yes, that is very astute
of you Let's do some global warming stuff
I promised this was a tease, I got
global warming Texas to start us off Global
warming Texas, alright Two of the world's top
weather agencies are warning that temperatures across the
globe are likely to hit new records in
the coming few years Climate scientists at the
World Meteorological Organization and its counterpart in the
UK say there's an 80% chance that
at least one of the next five years
will surpass 2024 as the hottest ever recorded.
Officials say that means more wildfires and heat
related deaths, plus stronger hurricanes droughts and downpours
Just today, San Antonio saw record rainfall for
a single day stranding cars in high floodwaters
Wait, what happened to weather's not climate?
That please June in the hill country is
when we actually me and the white nationalist
gang over there, we all pray for rain,
we're so happy it came, we got nine
points on our rain meter which is nine
tenths of a actually a centimeter for whatever
reason they have metric here whatever it is
it was fantastic, we're happy like wow, this
is great, we got all this beautiful rain,
now today it's gonna go it's gonna go
back up to the 90s Ah, global warming
global warming, it's June, this is what happens
in Texas, and now she's like oh it
looks like the record temperatures we've had a
supposedly hottest year on record for the last
seven years of this show every year every
year, we've had a beautiful spring it's been
mild it's been very cold out west the
whole seven years I don't know what they're
talking about it's just fantastic, and I don't
see any rising sea levels, but let's go
with boots on the ground, no so we'll
go to another series of clips, these are
from PBS this is Smoke from Canada and
do you think they're gonna bring in the
global warming thing, and when will they do
it let's listen to clip one fire
weather program manager the smoke is being lofted
into the air and with the weather pattern
that's in place right now, we've got an
area of low pressure basically just east of
Hudson Bay over the Great Lakes, which is
bringing that air south, we also have a
ridge of high pressure over the western U
.S. which is kind of helping to funnel
that smoke from Canada down through the northern
plains and into the middle Mississippi Valley earlier
I spoke with Matthew Capucci, meteorologist at MyRadar
I asked him about the health risks from
the smoke well there are two things I
think folks are most likely noticing number one,
anytime you have this fine particular matter, we
call it PM 2.5 down at ground
level that's dangerous for elderly, vulnerable populations, that's
a big concern over parts of the upper
Midwest, obviously Canada where the wildfires are originating,
but across North Dakota, across much of Minnesota,
the entire state of Minnesota under an air
quality alert right now which will likely be
pushed into early next week parts of Michigan
north of Chicago and in Wisconsin a lot
of folks in the upper Midwest and Great
Lakes now when the smoke is up high
causing changes to the light, it's harmless but
down near the surface when we're breathing it
in, it's really bad it's like if you
were sitting next to a campfire and breathing
that in, you wouldn't want to do that
if I were in North Dakota right now,
I'd be turning off my air conditioning and
only circulating the air inside my home one
minute and forty four seconds and they still
haven't mentioned global warming or climate change?
I'm very disappointed this report was from yesterday
on the PBS Weekend Edition it was half
the show, I only have three clips of
it half the show, by the way oh
my god, there's smoke smoke in the air,
it's gonna kill everybody as if no one's
ever had smoke in the air, I mean
what is the point of this report?
if I can just make a point in
the 70s so we moved to Europe in
72 and we would come back to the
United States every other summer for summer vacation
so we could go to Zales Zales we
loved it, Zales department store, Zales department store
was crazy you could buy BB guns, you
could buy CB radios it was fantastic and
we'd stay for a couple of weeks and
I just remember sitting in Armonk, New York
Mead Road at the family home said, watching
black and white TV, watching TV we had
Gilligan's Island TV during the daytime, couldn't believe
it didn't have that in Europe and it
would always be air quality alert heat alert,
stroke all day long and we would always
say, wow, these Americans even though we're American
they really hyped this stuff up, it's crazy
and it was the same every year, now
I'm talking 75, 76 nothing has changed with
the weather it's the reporting and the colors
they use on the maps so the danger
and the threat is the same hundreds of
miles away as if you were sitting next
to that fire yeah, most definitely, unless we're
really ventilating the atmosphere, taking what's down low
and sort of diffusing it higher aloft, then
we still have those high concentrations at the
surface we're seeing over 200 on the air
quality scale, anything over 50 is bad but
over 200 in parts of North Dakota right
now and my fear is that as these
fires continue to burn, we're just adding more
smoke to the atmosphere and it can surf
these jet stream winds winds in the upper
atmosphere down over North America, you know, back
in 2023 we saw the smoke reach all
the way down to New York City, turning
the skies orange as far south as Tennessee
Valley I don't think at least initially it
will get that bad farther south but still,
over the northern tier we could see some
very high end impacts with this.
And talk a little bit about the air
quality index, what does it take to trigger
an advisory?
It all has to do with the concentrations
of how much of that particular matter is
in the atmosphere the denser the concentrations, the
higher the number goes.
Anytime I'm seeing numbers around 200 that's the
point where you can smell and you can
taste the smoke in the air your eyes
might start to sting, your throat might hurt
a little bit, and especially for those vulnerable
populations it's a really significant hazard You talked
about turning off the air conditioning that ventilation
could bring it into your house?
Yeah, anything folks can do to eliminate essentially
outside air coming in is what I would
really recommend.
We hate to say it but those N95
masks from the COVID era could come in
handy because once again the smoke is made
up of these fine little particulates that you
don't want to be breathing in if you
have to go outside in the affected areas,
that's a really good thing to put a
protective layer between you and the air you're
breathing in.
And once again, just to remind people when
there's an air quality advisory are there particular
people who need to be especially careful?
Anybody with pre-existing conditions, the elderly those
with respiratory conditions, underlying conditions, children, especially
vulnerable to, infants, babies, and then sort of
after everyone else middle-aged folks too, but
really when the air quality gets as bad
as it is back it up he asks
him who should be careful?
And he basically says everybody in a segmented
way oh yeah, the elderly, people with pre
-existing conditions, oh also babies and children and
then middle-aged people and then people from
30 to 40 and 40 to 50 and
now you have to be particularly concerned in
50 to 60 don't forget about them.
What kind of reporting is this?
Yeah, let's back it up.
Protective layer between you and the air you're
breathing in.
And once again, just to remind people when
there's an air quality advisory are there particular
people who need to be especially careful?
Anybody with pre-existing conditions, the elderly those
with respiratory conditions, underlying conditions, children, especially
vulnerable to, infants, babies and then sort of
after everyone else, middle-aged folks too, but
really when the air quality gets as bad
as it is over parts of the northern
plains, the upper Midwest right now, that's dangerous
for anybody.
Hmm, brother.
Still no mention of global warming so I'm
getting these clips This is out of control,
this is not right.
I'm thinking what is wrong with these people?
They got this angle here, they're not using
it but okay.
Again, I will say this really was about
a 20 minute presentation but this is the
last clip I have.
What are Canadian officials saying about how significant
these fires are?
They're sort of sounding the alarm they're sort
of peaking their scales.
Right now for example, Alberta and Ontario are
under an extreme risk of wildfires that's verbiage
rarely used by Environment Canada.
That's the equivalent up there of the National
Weather Service in the US and to sort
of max out the scale says this is
a higher end event.
Likewise, the Canadian Interagency Forest Fire Centre has
drawn up a level 5 out of 5.
They're basically saying all systems go in terms
of combating and fighting these fires they're allocating
all the resources they have to.
When they sort of max out these scales,
that's a sign of a really significant event
underway.
We're still so early in the summer we're
just getting into June now this is something
we more typically see later into June, into
early July so I do fear this could
be another bad fire season for our neighbours
to the north.
One thing we're noting with climate change we're
seeing sort of a tendency for these heat
domes, these blocking bridges of high pressure to
last a little longer be a little stronger
be a little bigger and more stubborn.
Finally!
So there's an investor and a presenter named
Paul Marshall who I got some clips from
he was giving a presentation about climate change
but it's the counter argument and I thought
these clips were great and I don't know
the exact event but there was a bunch
of people that spoke at it and I
want to get these will be the last
clips of my climate presentation but this is
good stuff this is Paul Marshall on Climate
One Most European countries are committed to net
zero by 2050, likewise Australia and Canada.
The Scandinavian targets are a little earlier but
climate change policy is a classic collective action
problem this is the mother of all collective
action problems if only some countries make sacrifices
and others don't then all they do is
wipe out their own prosperity out of a
misplaced sense of guilt we have allowed Asian
countries to set much later dates China is
committed officially to 2060 Saudi Arabia to 2060,
India to 2070 and if your net zero
deadline is 35 or 45 years away you
can pretty much ignore it for the time
being and that is exactly what is happening
every year Chinese coal consumption is expected to
fall every year it goes up China has
1161 coal fired power plants in 2023 they
built two plants per week.
India has a mere 285 but they too
have now got the coal bug.
They're currently opening two plants a month and
their construction plans are accelerating China and India
are about as committed to net zero as
Britain is to investigating the grooming gangs laughter
wow kicker at the end there wow got
a big applause for that by the way.
Where was this done, this speech?
I think this was in London but it
could have been in Europe but wait a
minute wait a minute he's bound to be
offending someone with this.
Doesn't he get arrested at some point?
I think he has this is a captive
audience of people that are climate skeptics I
believe.
It's some sort of conference that is designed
to reverse things but it gets more interesting
as he continues this was actually, people should
look this up, Paul Marshall on climate but
here we go clip 2.
But it is the USA who've played the
smartest game it was the United States through
Al Gore who launched climate anxiety on the
world in 2009 Al Gore warned that the
North Pole would be ice free by the
summer of 2014 but the US never stopped
drilling and now just at the point where
many western countries have swallowed the net zero
ideology hook, line and sinker you guys and
I'm looking at the thousand Americans in the
room, are moving on to leave the rest
of us like a half dead fish flopping
on the river bank now I'm not suggesting
that this is a conspiracy I know that
in America you have Republicans and Democrats and
the idea of you conspiring together is a
bit like Keir Starmer eloping with Elon Musk
but just like with Wokery and DEI America
launched a set of luxury beliefs on the
world watched as those beliefs gained traction, only
to discard them in their own land just
before they reached the point of fatal destruction
luxury beliefs, I like that I like that
too, luxury beliefs he's kind of good, this
guy yeah, he's quite good and the possibility
does exist that the nature of our system
even though we don't do it I don't
think we do it overtly I don't think
anyone schemes but it just so happens that
that's what happened what he described is what
the mechanism is, I mean this is why
anyone who invested in Exxon Mobil when Biden
got in office and he said they're going
to get rid of fossil fuels would have
made a fortune because I think the stock
almost tripled oh yeah, the minute they started
that nonsense it started to go up, it's
genius yeah, and so it's like genius is
exactly what where was Horowitz with all of
this?
well you know he's a conservative investor here
we go with the last of this unlike
Europe in particular the US still has the
DNA to resist ideas that are bad for
your wealth you understand the foundations of wealth
creation and you don't take them for granted,
sadly we have a much weaker immune system
so we are powering ahead in full self
-destruction mode so how is Europe planning to
reach net zero?
well we have a twin track strategy on
the one hand we are prematurely closing some
of our most reliable sources of energy, like
coal and nuclear and ceasing our exploration for
offshore oil and gas and on the other
we are taxing carbon emissions, driving up our
energy and electricity costs across the board and
piling costs on the industry and the consumer
I have some bad news for our net
zero zealots Europe may or may not reach
our net zero targets but one thing we
will most certainly do is wipe out what
remains of our industrial base you know the
thing that no one wants to touch because
some of the big investors like Bill Gates
are all over it, is what President Trump
just did with nuclear regulation this is what
is going to make America win we'll be
able to have all kinds of nuke power
everywhere it's genius it really is I think
we've been fans of nuclear on this very
program since its inception almost particularly when we
learned about what is now I think being
deployed the small reactors Thorium and other reactors
the backyard nukes that can power a whole
town like Fredericksburg it's fantastic and but all
these people that are on the gravy train
they love it, there's still a lot of
climate money out there there must be oh
it has to be isn't there still money
from the inflation reduction I was listening to
an interview with who's one of the Trump,
oh Chip Roy Chip Roy your Texas buddy
not a fan of Chip Roy per se
although I don't think there was anyone else
you could vote for, I think Chip Roy
was the only guy, it was just uncontested
but his biggest beef is that there's still
all this inflation reduction act money that is
earmarked for all this climate stuff it's never
been spent like BESS BESS which is battery
enhanced battery something storage systems which battery enhanced
storage system, battery something storage yes something like
that BESS, which is you know nobody wants
that, nobody wants these like that Vistafire that's
probably still smoldering out there in California yeah
the one out in Point yeah Moss Point
or whatever it is Moss Beach whatever isn't
there like a trillion dollars in that thing
wasn't it there was a lot of money,
the whole inflation reduction act was really the
green new deal so that hasn't been repealed
or anything done with it, so I'm kind
of like on the chip train now I'm
all for that, let's get rid of that
nonsense, let's spend some money hey with that
I want to thank you for your courage,
say in the morning to you the man
who put the sea in the climate anxiety
say hello to my friend on the other
end the one the only Mr. John C.
Dvorak yeah in the morning to you Mr.
Adam in the morning ship sea boots on
the ground, feet in the air, subs in
the water and all the dames and knights
out there in the morning to the trolls
in the troll room stop moving, stand still
for a second I gotta count you where
are we where are we 2107 2107 that's
a little down isn't it that's way low
we normally have like 24 on a Sunday,
yeah 24, 25 well but these are of
course trolls who are listening to us live
in the troll room at trollroom.io and
they're in there trolling around which is good
they have a battery energy storage system, thank
you very much yeah B-E-S-S
battery energy, it lasts an hour like can
power your city for 30 minutes, it's like
a UPS for your town, yeah a big
giant UPS the trolls are listening to us
at trollroom.io where they might be listening
on a modern podcast app which you know
again it wasn't just Megyn Kelly I had
this clip you know the Toddcast the Toddcast,
you know Todd Chip Todd, Todd Todd, Chip
Todd Todd the Toddcast, remember that guy no,
yeah Chuck Todd Chuck Todd, yeah Chuck Todd
so, Chip Todd, yeah Chuck Todd, it's the
Chuck Toddcast, get it the Toddcast, here's what
he said just recently on his latest Toddcast,
got all these things, you can hear us
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is, that's a good one you caught, is
he that naive not to know this is
everybody's problem I liked how he said Apple
hasn't uploaded it he certainly doesn't know how
it works but that's okay because people don't
understand how it works, all they know is
we had a big conversation about this on
the Podcasting 2.0 podcast, is that things
have changed since the early days of podcasting,
when you were just delighted that a podcast
episode showed up like oh there it is,
we didn't have social media so when you
post on social media, hey the latest episode
is out and people are looking at their
Apple podcast app going no no, refresh, refresh
the first thing they do is they yell
at me you didn't upload it to Apple
I can't blame them for not understanding how
it works so I get it, then eventually
the host gets so overrun with that nonsense
that they, like Megyn Kelly and here's Chuck
Todd doing a soft shoe version of it
tell the engineers at Apple whereas we have
built the solution, it's called Podping and it's
no one owns it, it's actually a blockchain
you could even say, Apple podcast now powered
by blockchain, you could market it because when
hundreds of thousands of podcasts including this one
when we post the podcast, the Podping goes
out, all of these apps immediately know there's
a new episode they refresh, boom, there it
is within 90 seconds.
Don't use these stupid apps who are just
too not invented here or I can only
think that's what it is you know, Apple
oh we got to build our own blockchain
it has to be our blockchain, otherwise it
won't work blah blah blah they're arrogant, and
they're losing now, so get a modern podcast
app at podcastapps.com and all your problems
will be over and even better when we
go live, which doesn't work in these legacy
apps, you'll be able to hear it, you'll
get an alert, hey, the boys are live
the boys are back in town, I think
I will listen as a part of this
experiment that we've been doing, I was thinking
about those PBS shows with the climate change
stuff in it, you know what the problem
is, you know why they do half the
show about climate change because they have to
fill up an hour, see with the podcast
we're like, eh, I'm bored of hearing you,
you're bored of hearing me, end of show
you can do that yeah, you know, you
can, I got more to say, okay, we'll
do a little bit longer, that is what
media has really become, these guys like, what
do you got Bob, well we got a
lot of Trump hate okay, well, we'll do
some of that, what else you got, more
Trump hate blah blah blah so they got
to fill the time they got to fill
the time that's the problem well, I'm going
to push back on this and a deep
dive let's do a deep dive you also
have the problem with the podcasting dilemma which
is that oh yeah, there's that, I agree
the chatterboxes who just can't stop talking about
maybe one thing for hours yes yes yes,
that's exactly right and they don't know how
to end and they ask the question three
different ways before letting the guest talk is
that your problem with Rubin amongst many others
Rubin's one of them there's other people that
do the same thing they ask the question
three or four different ways so the question
is longer than the answer the question should
never be longer than the answer unless it's
a yes or no question it's a yes
or no question I've only got five minutes,
I've been reclaiming my time it's a yes
or no question, Mr. Devorah yes so we
employ the value for value model, we coined
the phrase we pioneered it it's gotten legs
of its own, I love it people misuse
it like Patreon, I'm value for value nah,
not entirely the whole concept is we give
you the show and we discovered this early
on, if people would only listen oh man,
there's this there's this whatsapp group alright it's
kind of like a telegram group only I
guess highbrow, I don't know whatsapp group, it's
the podcast discourse hub I should read from
this and so they talk about this is
really the podcast industrial complex and I just
don't buy into it they feel that everything
should be video doesn't have to have an
art not all of them are generalizing it
has to have video, if you don't have
video it's not going to work why?
what's your rationale for videos, it's not going
to work well you'd almost think they're on
the take from Google because YouTube has essentially
now rebranded any dudes or dudettes with cans
and a microphone as a podcast and if
you even put podcasts in your description, it
shows up in a podcast channel on YouTube
so they're trying to capture the whole concept
of a podcast and saying you don't need
an RSS feed you just need YouTube videos
does anybody realize that the word podcast itself
stems from the iPod which was never a
video device well actually it did do video
later on, but see this is exactly what
I get but it was named during the
era when it was an audio only device
yes but you have to understand that if
you say that, it'll be like okay Boomer,
I've never had an iPod man, I have
a smartphone I got an iPhone Boomer so
here's an example most boomers never had an
iPod so here's an example there is a
different podcast medium that exists now than did
when Adam helped birth all this podcasting has
grown up and is now mature beyond the
wild startup years this medium has been fragmenting
for years and has become a highly commercial
medium these fractures in the medium cannot stand
and need to go away or we risk
losing it all to big proprietary platforms you
see the podcast industrial complex wants it to
work with your dramatic reading thank you, Adam
is correct two different cultures exist that are
built on a common base I didn't say
that, doesn't matter we need to not fight
each other, in many ways we are working
together, but others are moving in different directions
and the market is now the market is
telling us differently so I'm a broken record
that a podcast only needs ok boomer, first
of all you don't need to make money
doing your podcast per se it's not like
I'm doing a podcast I need to make
money, some people just do a podcast because
they like it, some people do a podcast
because it's for their club or for the
community or for a product, or for a
candidate for office, there's a lot of reasons
to do a podcast a lot of reasons
to do a podcast, exactly but the world
is centered around, it's number one millions of
downloads on top of the charts it's anachronism
that's old fashioned, that is truly boomer thinking
I gotta start doing that, ok boomer with
your charts, we discovered early on that it
doesn't when's the last time we actually looked
at stats you don't need to look at
stats we do take a look at our
download once in a while when we're talking
about it just to make sure it's not
falling off a cliff or it's jumped a
lot and it hasn't shown up in the
income stream like for example if our download
numbers had tripled and our income stream had
gone in half we would pay attention to
that but none of this stuff ever happens
by the way it's all statistics let's be
specific, we do this podcast to help people
get results on their resume, ok that's why
we're doing this podcast the podcast is wrapped
around Linda Lou Patkin and so that's the
only reason the podcast exists nobody has figured
this out what we discovered more than 17
years ago is if you just ask people
to send you some money whatever it's worth
to them it's sustainable and that's it any
podcast can do this but people forget one
thing you have to have a good slash
outstanding product if you don't have a good
product no one's going to support you and
that's the big misunderstanding well I got downloads
no if you have a good product people
will support you that's it and if you
have enough people to support you you might
be able to do it full time how
many years did we do the show get
a time code for me how many years
did we do the show before we could
do it full time five years actually about
one bull crap two years because we could
do it at show 100 when you were
going to quit because you got this 100
I was still making money at show 100
so no not true I could not have
sustained myself with what we were making at
show 100 no it took much longer I
had to go back and look when I
was in Los Angeles so I had already
moved from San Francisco to Los Angeles it
was when we moved to Texas about when
I moved to Texas I would say probably
2011 2010-2011 is when it was enough
for me to get by living way outside
of Austin so that's what I thought you
lived in an apartment in Austin for starters
no I lived out by Lake Travis way
the heck out there then you moved to
the apartment in downtown Austin?
no then I moved to a rental house
in downtown Austin then to another rental house
in downtown Austin and then to an apartment
by myself in downtown Austin so it was
four years it was definitely since we started
2007 it was about four years before I
could at least me I don't know about
you you got all these gigs going on
writing vinegar books and stuff but no it
was a good four years it takes time
that's my whole point it takes time to
come up with it takes time to develop
an audience too absolutely people are like I
need downloads I get ads unless you're Britney
I guarantee Britney Spears I brought this up
before when blogging was a thing if Britney
Spears started a podcast tomorrow and did value
for value she'd be making money immediately by
the way do the one in the chat
room says when did you eat your plane
that's right that was 2010 I ate my
plane I had to sell the plane that
was 2010 before we moved to Austin so
okay well then 2010 is the marker no
it's 2011 four years doesn't matter the point
is if you have an outstanding product I
think even if you have a thousand people
listening if you say hey support me or
the show goes away which we did all
the time yeah we still do I think
we still do people are like yeah you're
begging for money you're complaining about that's how
it works I know people who don't like
the fact that we're complaining constantly about money
are just they hate us that's the only
thing I can think of it's usually the
people who don't support us hate us asking
for money no those are the PR because
they don't want to hear about it because
it's banging on their guilt the guilty conscience
they never give us a nickel they won't
do the $5 a month which is nothing
or $4 whatever you know originally we started
with some ridiculous low amounts $2 hey Alberta
Guru reminds us yeah back in the day
John was still getting lucrative guest appearance fee
money lucrative well I was getting paid but
it wasn't lucrative yes you want to finish
that up I was just going to say
yes the people that complain about it are
not supporting the show they just want free
stuff they want free stuff man I mean
you can't blame anyone for wanting free stuff
but at the same time so we don't
carp so we accept time, talent and treasure
a lot of people do a lot of
things for us it's highly appreciated organizing meetups
putting up websites yeah reports, websites boots on
the ground reports it's unbelievable to create a
volunteer process is the best the best aspect
of value for value that's what people fail
to recognize and tax free it's tax free
yeah it saves us from doing the work
and there's no I mean you look at
CBS News how many producers does CBS News
have let's say they have a hundred do
you think they have a hundred yeah at
least do you think they have 200 no
I don't think they have that many but
I'll tell you we've I've played these joke
producer lists that they play on PBS for
a simple segment 15 minute segment and they've
got 10-12 people so we have conservatively
speaking hundreds of thousands of producers each with
their own specific expertise so you want to
know about shoeing a horse we got somebody
you want to know about an F-35
we got somebody you want to know about
air traffic control a pilot and a mechanic
you want to know about drones you want
to know about climate you want to know
about finance finance we have somebody we have
a lot of people in the medical field
that's the genius of the model but people
don't understand so as a part of that
we always understood you have to close the
loop so we thank people when you send
in a report we thank you for doing
the report when you create a piece of
art we have a lot of artists who
love to create art for us it's actually
expanded with AI you see Dogpatch Dogpatch Dogpatch
in Lower Slobovia his note about the colors
of AI did you get that note from
him I did get a note I'm always
suspicious if that's him oh that's him it's
him I know it is with the old
AOL account that's him that to me was
the kicker I'm like oh it's definitely him
there's a certain type of people that still
uses an AOL account anyway he was saying
that the problem is that all of this
digital stuff is all just approximate that they're
trying to create it so it looks right
to your eyes none of it's natural color
of course even going back to photography very
long very good explanation I liked it I
thought it was good so I had some
issue with it and I don't remember what
it is because I don't have the note
in front of me we'll discuss it but
I thought that this particular piece of art
from Blue Acorn which he used for episode
1768 titled queer the deal it was very
triggering for people people like oh my god
why?
because like they see you have to understand
we understand the context of the picture because
it was a topic but people see an
ice cream cone and mayonnaise next to each
other and they start dry heaving because they
don't know is it ice cream in the
mayo is the ice cream is it actually
mayonnaise dry heaving yes oh it was it
was super triggering for people good yeah I
know that's what I said they're like oh
I can't wait to listen to this I'm
puking over here what's going on I'm puking
and this of course came from our tiktok
later did you hear Maloney's speech by the
way where she kept using the vomit about
Macron yeah too bad we don't have a
translator it was just captions yeah it was
her rant against Macron was beautiful and she
is a great speaker it sounds anyone speaking
Italian always sounds good well yes but when
you're yelling yeah it was good anyway thank
you very much Blue Acorn we appreciated that
very much and there were some other other
pieces of art that I think we considered
although you probably hated them all let me
see you like the NA hard hat I
think I like both of the hard hats
and the soccer ball hail yeah you made
a good argument against that because you know
it doesn't make any sense is what are
these soccer balls I like the hard hat
with the hail that was a Darren I
even could go for the the sushi I
just thought it was well done that was
also Darren small too small yeah I kind
of like the emblem shirt small you're like
yeah it's a long way to go to
put some boobs on the web okay all
right and I'm the pro boob guy I
know I know it was amazing um company
card Darren is just flooding the zone which
is somewhat annoying he's cranking it out yeah
comic strip blogger trying to flood the zone
um so yeah gender expansive podcast we're not
going to use that was there anything else
that we like I think that was it
right yeah there was it really was hard
to come up with anything besides the mayonnaise
ice cream yeah people are doing a lot
of these cartoon uh things now I don't
like them you know what I mean well
you're probably gonna it's probably gonna get worse
after today's tip of the day hey man
I'm still getting people sending me mail at
my house thanks to that tip of the
day you once gave like how to find
somebody's address all right yeah this is not
not hey it's a public domain it's not
my fault not fantastic thank you very much
Rudy also hates it uh artgenerator.com is
where you can participate in this uh and
Dreb Scott is always on the ball putting
a lot of these that we don't choose
for the art for the album art putting
them into the chapters again a a feature
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formula is this we hit people in the
mouth you
know I think the IC community the Intel
community could use as a you know you're
working there a PhD on the wall ooh
yes I think that would be just dynamite
so there was a I have two versions
of this story because it was kind of
played the same way the Supreme Court has
started to rule in favor of President Trump
in a couple of key cases and it
has people's panties all in a bunch and
so while the news is hey you know
the deportations that he wanted to do he
can go ahead and do them it played
out very differently in the M5M mainstream media
hundreds of thousands of migrants are now living
in fear as the Supreme Court allows President
Trump to end temporary protective status for migrants
from Haiti, Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua the decision
comes as the Department of Homeland Security ramps
up deportation efforts targeting migrants as they arrive
for their court hearings it makes everybody be
on edge this tactic by DHS is happening
at courthouses around the country according to immigration
advocates such was the case with 20 year
old Bronx high school student Dylan Lopez Contreras
a Venezuelan asylum seeker arrested by ICE during
a routine court hearing in New York City
Dylan is neither a criminal nor a dangerous
person he's the exact opposite of how they
try to paint the immigrant community and in
Texas mothers being captured by ICE outside of
a courthouse in San Antonio this woman's husband
says his wife has no criminal record we
were requesting a merits hearing and the judge
declined to set a merits hearing because DHS
asked for the case to be dismissed and
the client to be ordered removed saying that
it was not in the government's interest to
hear a full case according to recent reporting
by NBC ICE deported over 17,000 people
in April up 50% from February but
that figure falls well short of the quote
millions Trump has promised to deport from the
US and lags far behind the record 430
,000 people who were deported in a single
year during the Obama administration that's Canadian news
they had a little bit of fair reporting
but I've got people young people who I
know are conservative in thinking they're probably Christian
nationalists and they're texting me like 500,000
I think I have a problem with this
I have a million people let's go to
ABC New York this decision immediately affects 530
,000 530,000 migrants allowed into the United
States by the Biden administration at the time
it was part of a policy seen as
relieving some of the strain at the southern
border and also improving vetting of individuals the
Trump administration reversed that policy in March a
federal district court put it on hold saying
it was illegal but today the Supreme Court
justices said the Trump administration can move forward
what does that mean?
it means most of those 530,000 migrants
will have 30 days to leave the country
unless they have some other legal protections immigrant
advocates told us today that this will have
a significant economic impact two justices dissented from
this decision Justice Katonji Brown-Jackson writing the
court has plainly botched this assessment it undervalues
the devastating consequences of allowing the government to
precipitously upend the lives and livelihoods of nearly
a half million non-citizens while their legal
claims are pending now the legal battle in
this case does continue but the bottom line
guys is that the Supreme Court says now
that more than half a million Haitians, Nicaraguans
Cubans and Venezuelans may have to leave the
country in 30 days none of these reports
were honest migrants well I'll tell you this
the one dishonest aspect of it is the
fact that they keep showing these arrests yeah
crying moms these staged arrests and then how
does that comport with giving them 30 days
because it's bull crap I think it's bull
crap too and then I see people falling
for Cheryl Atkinson of all people the you
know what she did something weird I like
Cheryl Atkinson yeah I do too and she
had played one of these clips on Twitter
of one of these people crying and moaning
and groaning and she says is this what
people voted for so these 530 migrants non
-citizens 530,000 migrants non-citizens were in
the United States under TPS temporary protective status
which is always temporary they knew it was
temporary now of course President Biden said nah
don't worry about it yes this is what
we voted for and these people their temporary
protective status is over and now it's time
to go back you know I got a
note from my buddy Michelle in the UK
and it's so bad over there he's trying
to sell one of the clubs his biggest
club which he's had ever since I've known
him he said values have evaporated nobody wants
to be in the club business anymore the
country is crap but the way he approaches
me the country is crap how's it going
in Trump land how's everything in Trump land
I said hey America's doing great feeling good
man we're kicking out undesired illegal immigrants shipping
the criminal ones off the jail rejecting visas
from troublemakers bringing God back to our government
reducing waste and fraud restoring education and getting
rid of DEI and systemic racism I think
Trump land is doing pretty good that was
your note yes my note back to him
wow that's a good one that's a good
template for anybody out there because it's true
yes this is what we voted for but
you know the news it psyops people with
exactly what you said with these arresting women
that is I don't know what that's from
but that's not from TPS status time for
you to go back you have 30 days
get your affairs in order it seems staged
and it had no context when she posted
it and I'm still wondering what the context
is this brings me to what you were
talking about I didn't want to bring these
clips in right now but I'm going to
do it because it kind of talks about
some of the issues that you expressed this
is the Zogby and Zogby Zogby and Zogby
which is the polling group and Zogby and
his son Zogby the two Zogbys were looking
at some data about Trump's popularity and talking
about the various forms of media and I
think this is quite enlightening this is Zogby
and Zogby one the electorate is they're going
to all different kinds of channels and sources
for their media and information and that's no
surprise but when we break it down demographically
into three distinct media cohorts and we have
local media voters who primarily trust local media
versus legacy media which are national newspapers and
national networks and their online platforms versus new
media which is social media and podcasts so
when you break it down that way it
makes a lot more sense legacy media Trump
can't do anything right he can't say anything
right he's failing every day local media about
split but a little bit more in favor
of Trump and then new media podcasts and
X and other social media sites Trump is
way ahead and so it depends how you're
discerning your events the narratives of the daily
and weekly events but when we put it
all together and I think the real cohorts
that I'm going to look at are always
going to be the independent voters where do
they stand men and women because those are
two different realities and then Hispanic voters are
looking very much like a bellwether group so
through those lens let's look at those head
to head matchups of Trump versus key Democrats
how do we square this with Cheryl Atkinson
she's old media she's legacy in her origins
in her orientation to this day I mean
she works for Sinclair broadcasting oh I didn't
realize she does a show for them it's
syndicated around it which is a legacy stop
stop breaking news breaking news it's on all
it's on the quads everywhere Shakira cancels world
tour okay I'm sorry continue what and why
I don't know I'm not listening Shakira was
on Fallon like two days or three days
in a row almost I don't know it's
breaking news not yet yeah Jimmy Fallon anyways
Cheryl Atkinson is on now working for Sinclair
so a friend of mine a producer friend
of mine who is working for NBCUniversal is
now working for Sinclair and she says to
me they're cheap aren't they in Austin isn't
their headquarters in Austin I thought they were
up in the Pacific Northwest I'm sorry Northeast
I thought they were up in I thought
they had headquarters in maybe it could be
I don't know but they're cheap conclusion of
course they're cheap there's no more money in
cable do they have broadcast yeah they own
a bunch of stations they're the ones when
they have those super clips where everyone says
everything exactly the same that's all from Sinclair
well there's the problem they're fake news I
think so I had a run in with
them when I was writing for PC Magazine
during the early days of HDTV the Sinclair
people got a hold of me and this
kind of relates to the fact that they're
cheap did they grab you by the collar
hey listen I would if they were in
person but it was over email and they
were going on and on about the OFMDM
whatever the type of antenna is going to
be used for HDTV it's no good it's
too expensive and it was the whole thing
was about slow down this HDTV move it's
going to break us and they had a
lot of good arguments at the time about
why it wouldn't be any good and this
and that and it all fell apart when
you know everyone I mean it's brought everything's
at 1080p now yeah of course they were
a real holdout they really hated it oh
god we have to buy new equipment this
is going to cost us too much money
yeah they're cheap anyway Zogby do you want
to listen to the rest of these yeah
of course I do it's kind of interesting
I don't know what they're running Trump against
people for he's not running again no matter
what anybody wants to think but let's listen
to Zogby too this is a long analysis
so I mean some of the groups that
you mentioned you know one poll a YouGov
poll showed that Trump was losing his edge
significantly among young men we don't find that
at all we don't find him losing that
slight edge that he had among Hispanic voters
either in fact what we found in his
approval rating in this poll pretty much matches
what the vote Hispanic vote was back in
November by the way I'll say that the
Hispanic citizens legal residents of our great country
they're like yeah get out they've always been
that way they don't want a bunch of
people horning in no of course not just
because you're a Mexican American you have a
heritage that goes back but you've been an
American for three four generations which is a
lot of especially in California you don't want
a bunch of interlopers coming in to take
your job and work cheap November so we're
kind of right back to where we were
I for one think it says an awful
lot about the Democrats and then of course
about where independents are and Democrats not being
able to make much headway among independents but
do you want to share some numbers?
yeah I want to share some numbers and
then I want to touch on that too
because I think the other driving factor is
focus on it the state of the Democratic
Party and their playing field so point of
order Democrat Party when we put Trump up
against Bernie Sanders I think that's most interesting
for now because that's populism on the right
versus populism on the left and we do
have a tight race here of 45.6
% of the public the voters opting for
President Trump if the election were held today
versus 45.1 and so I mean it's
a virtual tie but we'll say that there's
a slight edge of five survey participants but
when we look to independents this is revealing
this is revealing about where independents could go
41% of them go with Bernie 38
% of them go with Trump and that's
significant because we see on the one hand
a split among the independent vote but a
preference still for a populist figure I should
mention that I don't know if Bernie's going
to make it another three years no this
is just an academic exercise Bernie's not going
to run but the point he's trying to
make is that populism is the key here
and Bernie's not really he's a populist in
his approach but in fact he's a socialist
you think?
yeah I think but the point is that
if the Democrats get back in the game
they have to embrace populism which they're really
reluctant to do they do not want to
do that because populism will kick out the
trans populism will kick out the woe populism
doesn't want any of that stuff and so
the Democrats are going to have nothing but
trouble coming to grips with this populism boom
and it's been it was predicted in the
80s that populism in the United States was
going to be a big thing there's a
book that Richard Vigery wrote that came out
I believe in 1986 where he predicted or
questioned the possibility that populism will be the
dominant the dominant political characteristic of the future
well that's what's happening all over Europe yeah
it's happening all over the world all over
Europe it's a very if you don't come
to grips with it you're not going to
get anywhere damn bingo onward with the third
clip just one different than Trump let's hold
that thought because when we go to the
next two head to heads we'll compare those
independents but let's look at before we do
that let's look at men and women men
clearly 51% for Trump 40% for
Sanders it's key that Trump gets a majority
with women Sanders gets just barely 50%
and Trump gets 40% so we see
the gender gap is strong and then the
last of the cohorts we'll look at in
this head to head is Hispanics 46%
of Hispanics for Trump 44% for Sanders
and I think on the face that kind
of proves the Hispanic vote as a key
and swing vote it really is just by
way of a comment about Hispanics one of
the things that I find very puzzling is
the president issuing deportation orders backed by the
United States Supreme Court against Venezuelans Cubans Nicaraguans
all living here legally and all mainly gained
and gainful employment what's ironic about that is
that these are from communist countries or socialist
countries anyway they are fundamentally conservative and when
they do become naturalized US citizens they have
been voting overwhelmingly Republican hmm got you there
at the end one note from the troll
room unrelated but a good point again we
have the best producers the drone attack from
the sheds on the lorries perfect commercial for
golden dome well is it?
it sounds like it's not oh you're right
when you think about it no it would
be inside the golden dome yes golden dome
no good it would be a perfect promotion
for not a golden dome because it's not
going to work with that strategy we need
mini golden domes I've always believed this is
a huge weakness of our infrastructure um you
have a refinery you have a power plant
you have a some sort of any facility
whatsoever and you have a guy in a
pickup truck with a bazooka or a rocket
launcher on the back yeah and just driving
down the road and he fires it off
and blows up you know hits anything you
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guy in a truck and there's nothing to
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exactly what happened here in Russia yeah only
using drones which makes it even more like
creepy that's a good point um I have
a yeah golden dome is actually boomer very
boomer we have a let's see oh another
this is M5M mainstream news very important to
note the passing of an age it's the
end of an era tonight for NBC News
and a special connection with Sacramento and KCRA
tonight is Lester Holt's final newscast on NBC
Nightly News Holt took over the anchor desk
on June 18th 2015 he'll be leaving just
about half a month shy of his 10
year mark over the past 10 years he's
built a reputation as a respected and trustworthy
journalist who's interviewed newsmakers all over the world
Holt grew up in the Sacramento area graduating
from Cordova High School and attended Sacramento State
later receiving an honorary degree during that time
he was an intern right here at KCRA
3 he won't be leaving NBC however he's
going to spend more time as the host
of Dateline NBC along with other projects Tom
Yamas will take over Nightly News starting Monday
yeah Yamas yeah I always thought Yamas was
better isn't that the guy that guy no
Yamas is a fast talker he has a
very distinctive style I've always liked him he
seems objective I don't know whether he is
or not I doubt it, but he seems
so and he has a they've kept him
in abeyance on one of the phony baloney
news shows on MSNBC where they have everybody
doing a news show where they just keep
him keep him busy and I always thought
he'd be a good guy to have running
it he's like, he reminds me he's the
NBC version of Jeff Glor he's the CBS
version very similar in style kind of young
energetic types but I think he'll do okay
alright I'd like to I've always said that
this was a big mistake and I'm not
the only one saying that this entire meme
coin crypto business that the president's family is
in yeah, I don't like the idea either
I don't get it it's not very smart
here's a Deutsche Welle report about it ...were
the ones given a seat at the table
Trump saw no problem with the event calling
it private and rejecting claims that he was
using it to funnel money to his personal
bank account and that the guests were using
it to buy access to the president of
the United States but Trump's opponents were unequivocal
in their condemnation we are here today to
talk about exactly one topic, corruption corruption in
its ugliest form.
Donald Trump is using the presidency of the
United States to make himself richer through crypto
and he's doing it right out there in
plain sight the dinner is just the latest
example of what critics say is the president's
exploitation of his position for private gain there's
no clear information on exactly how much Trump's
income has increased since he began his second
term but Forbes estimated his net worth in
March at just over $5 billion, a billion
more than last year.
The White House insists there's no conflict of
interest and no wrongdoing because the Trump family
business is now being run by the president's
sons and that Donald Sr.'s assets are in
a trust managed by his children yeah and
this really it just has a stinky smell
to it now I have to say meme
coins are, that's not a cryptocurrency, a meme
coin is like sneakers you know, it's like
whatever you know, it's as good as I
think you hit it there, it's like sneakers
there's a market for sneakers there's a whole
industry of people that collect sneakers and that's
basically what it is they trade and collect
sneakers and so that's basically what this is
but it has a stench of scam it
has a stench of scam yes, a stench
of scam it's SOS, stench of scam which,
you know it's literally no different than sneakers
some of these sneakers were going for if
you wanted to get some of the gold
sneakers in the aftermarket, they were thousands of
dollars but of course that's not how it's
going to play and I think the president
should have known this.
From billion dollar real estate deals in the
Middle East to a flashy crypto investor dinner
and the pardoning of political supporters.
Concerns Donald Trump's second term is blurring the
lines this pardoning of political supporters, most of
these recent pardons that they're bitching and moaning
about, he doesn't know these people from Adam
and they've never supported him.
No no, but that's, you know that's you
know that's not important, you know what they're
trying to do here, but let's stay on
the crypto bit between the personal and political
like never before.
Critics also pointing to another venture that didn't
exist in the first Trump term an emerging
family cryptocurrency empire.
On full display at this gala last week,
an event where the top 220 buyers of
his personal crypto meme coin were given exclusive
access to Trump, seen standing next to a
podium with the seal of the president the
White House saying that Trump was only there
in a personal capacity on his own time
and I'm just one of 220 people that
are invited and there's no media there's no
recording, there's no plus ones, it's just truly
some of the most influential figures in crypto
and policy and of course the man himself.
The top 25 meme coin investors even getting
a tour of the White House, like Justin
Sun, a Chinese crypto mogul who was previously
under investigation by the Securities and Exchange Commission
for fraud.
That probe halted by the Trump administration in
February.
Both Trump and the First Lady have a
meme coin.
I think the initial meme coin launch was
some of the most anger I've seen out
of the crypto world towards Donald Trump.
I think a lot of people in the
crypto world view meme coins as a cash
grab, which is frankly fairly accurate.
Cash grab, okay.
A company associated with the Trump family also
owns a 60% stake in another crypto
venture, World Liberty Financial.
Trump's image is all over the firm's website,
dubbing him chief crypto advocate.
But in a statement to ABC News, World
Liberty Financial claimed they are a private company
with no ties to the US government.
Once a crypto skeptic who said Bitcoin seemed
like a scam, Trump has now fully embraced
digital currency.
I promise to make America the Bitcoin superpower
of the world and the crypto capital of
the planet and we're taking historic action to
deliver on that promise.
As the President has pushed for new policies
that could directly impact his family's cryptocurrency ventures,
the Justice Department has simultaneously rolled back crypto
enforcement.
On Thursday, the SEC dropped a two-year
lawsuit against Binance, the world's largest crypto exchange,
which federal regulators accused of mishandling customer money.
The case was dropped just weeks after that
Trump-connected crypto firm, World Liberty Financial, announced
a $2 billion deal where a United Arab
Emirates-backed fund would use the firm's token
to invest in Binance, a transaction that could
generate hundreds of millions of dollars for the
Trump family.
I just don't think that's true.
They're conflating a lot of different things, but
that's not the point.
The point is, it's just a bad look.
We'll finish it up.
But the concerns of critics go far beyond
the world of crypto.
From First Lady Melania Trump's reported record-breaking
$40 million deal for her new Amazon documentary
to the multiple Trump family real estate deals
in the Middle East.
So now they're going off the rails.
That is off the rails.
I mean, look at the Obama deals.
The Obamas.
Bill Clinton, the whole Clinton global initiative, the
Clinton Foundation.
Give me a break.
How come no one's ever looked into the
Clinton?
During his tenure and especially the moment between
him and Hillary's supposed-to-be-president era,
that global initiative, the Clinton Foundation, was raking
in foreign money.
Some of which closed in the weeks right
before the president's swing through those very same
countries.
ABC News has learned plans are now in
the works for a new private club in
Washington, D.C., co-founded by Donald Trump
Jr. and Trump's crypto czar investor David Sachs.
The club's official name, Executive Branch, intended as
a haven for the Trump family and top
MAGA allies.
Trolling.
The initial price tag for membership, $500,000.
So, anyway, I think the whole, it was
just not smart that they did that.
It's just this hassle that nobody needs.
And it messes up the whole purity of
Bitcoin.
They also take this idea that Executive Branch
with the $500,000 thing brings to mind
the Yakuza.
Careful what you say.
Careful what you say.
I've talked about it on the show before.
It's an old trick.
They tried to do the Japanese frontman tried
to do this with Pebble Beach.
They tried to buy it and then people
realized what was going on here.
One of the things the Yakuza love to
do is buy golf exclusive golf courses and
then have outrageous membership fees and then as
a blackmail scheme if you got in trouble
with them and you had to pay them
some money to make it above board that
you had to take out you had to
get a loan from them.
You had to get a membership.
Take a membership.
It'll be fine.
Yeah, get a membership.
And so the memberships were a scam.
But it was a good one.
Really smart.
It's clean.
The idea that Donald Trump Jr. is doing
a similar kind of gambit.
He's not unaware of the Yakuza.
Yeah, you wouldn't think so.
So there's something fishy about that.
Well, there's one other thing and I think
that will be my last clip and this
is about the pardons and Chris Christie went
on this week with George Stephanopoulos to complain
about it with an interesting example.
He even suggested this week that he could
look at possibly pardoning Sean Diddy Combs.
Right, while the trial is still going on
and he has no idea what the nature
and quality of the evidence is and what
the jury verdict.
If he's found not guilty, he won't need
a pardon.
So this is just about him trying to
be more and more outrageous.
And also by saying something about Diddy, he
deflects from a guy like Paul Walsack whose
mother was a million dollar donor fundraiser for
Trump.
And this guy stole George $10 million in
payroll taxes.
The money that his employees give to him
to pay their payroll taxes, he stole that
money.
The other thing he's doing here, George, is
eliminating white collar crime in America.
He's saying it doesn't exist.
Yeah, well, how about that Bridgegate, Chris Christie?
Forgot about that, didn't we?
Remember Bridgegate?
Yeah, I do.
Yeah.
Kettle, black, etc.
Well, if you're ending things up with that
clip, I have one last clip.
This is the bicycle users clip.
Bicycle users clip.
All right.
New York City, by one example, in the
last eight years, has increased the number of
bike lanes by 600 miles.
600 miles in New York City of dedicated
bike lanes.
Taking the real estate from cars and congesting
cars, which of course was the intention.
It makes the car far more inconvenient.
The IEA had the temerity to brag about
the oil savings from micromobility in cities.
They pointed out in their latest World Energy
Outlook that micromobility, bicycles in 15-minute cities,
is already saving a laughable 70,000 barrels
of oil per day globally.
Again, this is arithmetic.
That's 0.07% of world oil.
China increases its oil consumption that much I
think every three days.
I mean, it's a number like that.
So who, you could ask, benefits from this
enthusiastic embrace of city bicycles?
I mean, you might have anecdotal experience with
who you see using bicycle lanes in cities.
I do, but let me tell you what
the data show because there are data on
this.
In our country at least, here's what the
Census Bureau tells us from last year.
0.5% of all U.S. commuters
use a bicycle.
Think about the percentage of bike lanes you're
seeing.
70% of American computers use a car
driving alone.
And for those who bicycle to work, I'm
not talking about weekend entertainment, having fun on
a bike.
For those who bicycle to work, the average
age is 20 to 30.
Over 70% are male, 70% are
white, and 80% have college degrees.
So much for the claim of equitable micromobility.
It's shocking that there hasn't been more shock
about the demographics of the corruption of city
streets for that demographic.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
It's nonsense.
It's total nonsense.
It's good for bike messengers.
They have, and they were tearing up around
here.
First it started in Oakland and then it's
been all over the place.
Now it's in El Cerrito and all these
local areas.
They're tearing up the streets, putting up kind
of a second meridian to block off the
bike lane that they're creating, taking a whole
lane away from cars.
And there's nobody in any of these bike
lanes.
I could make a video driving all through
Berkeley and following all the bike lanes.
If I find one bike in a day,
it's a miracle.
Sometimes there's a couple.
But it would be some 25 year old
white male pumping away, usually in garb.
It's a ludicrous situation and it's getting worse.
My mistake.
My mistake.
I
promise
I'll fix it in post.
No one will ever notice.
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Hey, it's Sir Spencer bringing you the latest
KC Meetup report.
Folks, I came down to a pavilion at
my local city park and wanted to use
the barbecue grill.
There's this big group of people over here.
I figured they were celebrating a kid's birthday
or something.
Got to talking to them and somebody punched
me right in the mouth.
Got hit right in the mouth.
I cannot believe it.
Hey, this is Sir Baron John Helmer and
I punched Michael in the mouth.
Dame Lizardi here.
This is Commodore Matt the Metal Bender.
We're doing it live.
Douchebag Indigo reporting.
ITM.
Dame Blackhammer.
I hit Michael in the mouth.
But Sir C.
Mike kind of smacked him around a little
bit, I guess.
This is Sir C.
Mike and I hit Michael in the mouth.
But then he took off with max velocity,
so I don't know if he'll be back.
This is David.
I had a great time with this meetup.
I did not actually hit the guy in
the mouth but I did hold him down
to make it easier for everyone else.
Dame DeLorean here and we heard at least
three Teslas explode.
I had real fun at the pool party.
Ah, some extra fluff there.
Thank you very much, Kansas City, for your
meetup report.
Thank you to everyone who organizes these No
Agenda meetups.
It's highly appreciated.
Remember your servers.
We have two meetups taking place today.
One is the IndyJune Winth Half On Summer
Startup Part 1.
That is underway at the Dugout Bar in
Indianapolis.
Sir Mark and Dame Marie of the Greenwood
hosting that.
And the Bugout Bag meetup started early this
morning at Stone Tables at White Rock Lake
in Dallas, Texas.
And the only other one I want to
mention because I was asked to give some
light to it is the meetup on June
6th, Belgium.
That is just a couple miles, I think,
north of Brussels.
There's an airport there, so that should be
a good time.
Send in a meetup report.
We've got Copenhagen, Denmark coming up on the
13th.
Wow.
New York, New York on the 14th.
Wow, these are good places.
This is awesome.
Don't we have a Japan one coming up?
Cannes!
June 17th, Cannes, France.
Oh, my.
We need meetup reports from all of you.
You can send that to AdamMcCurry.com and,
of course, for all the other meetup business,
go to NoAgendaMeetups.com.
You can find all the meetups listed there.
You can search by region, location, all kinds
of ways to sort that.
And, as always, if you can't find a
meetup near you, then you should start one
yourself.
NoAgendaMeetups.com.
It's easy.
So, looking at your list,
I'm guessing my one ISO wins today.
You don't have any ISOs.
I have one lousy one, which is just
kind of a joke ISO.
Oh, it says ISP.
Okay, that's why.
I thought it was a clip about Internet
Service Provider.
It's not something I created.
It's just a dog.
I'm glad I didn't do anything because that
ISO is too good.
Here's the one you had.
Thank you for having me.
And here's the winner.
What's that in your mouth?
That's right, everybody.
Tom C.
Dvorak is up now with his famous tip
of the day.
All right.
This is a new tool for you.
Tool for you Photoshop users, photo editing types,
and AI nuts, which will contribute to people
doing art for the show.
It's pretty new.
I recommend Googling for this because I'll give
you some URLs, but it seems to be
all over the map insofar as what you
want to look for.
I think Google has the best link.
It's called Flux Context with a K.
K-O-N-T-E-X-T Flux,
F-U-L-X.
It comes from a company called Replicate.com,
but if you go to Replicate.com, you'll
never find it.
You have to go to Flux1.ai and
you won't find it there necessarily.
And you won't find it at Flux.ai.
It has some other thing operational together.
But if you wanted to find it right
on the money besides using Google, you have
to go to Flux1.ai slash Flux Context
and you'll get right to it.
Now, it is a stunning editor that allows
you to do very specific edits.
Like you can have a picture of somebody's
face and you say, change their hair to
blonde, and it'll do that specifically without having
to go through the rigamarole you have to
go through with Photoshop.
Or if you want to take somebody's head
and put it on somebody else's head or
body.
Classic.
You do that with one, you just tell
it to do it.
If you want to turn somebody into a
cartoon, it does the best job of turning
somebody into a cartoon I've ever seen.
Now, is it only pictures or also video?
No, you can also create, no, it doesn't
do video.
No, video, you've got to go elsewhere.
You can also create pictures and drawings and
cartoons from scratch with prompts.
It just has a lot of potential.
And some of them you have to pay
a nickel, so you might have to pay
money for some of these images, but it's
supposed to have a free element.
It's just a dynamite thing to check out.
If anyone out there, Darren will give me,
eventually send me some feedback on this and
why it's no good.
Yes, he will.
Or he'll tell me it's fabulous.
I don't know, but this is definitely one
of those tools that you'll like.
It's just something you just want to play
with for a while.
Now, are you sure this is really AI?
It's not like that $1.5 billion company
that Microsoft was buying?
Builder.ai?
I can't tell anything is AI.
All I know is it does some remarkable
imagery manipulation that I've not seen anyone be
able to do otherwise.
It might also be a lot of good
demos.
This is a problem with, for example, the
hottest thing now is VEO3.
VEO3 from Google which creates all these crazy
videos.
The ones that you see demoed are just
dynamite, but you go try to do it
yourself, and there goes a dollar.
You have to spend money to get it
to work.
My favorite is next time Jay's around, grab
her phone, get on the TikToks.
It's the Trump babies.
Have you seen these?
Yeah, I have, actually.
I think those are pretty funny.
Humor is, I think, the best target for
all this AI stuff.
The only target.
I think the album art is going to
come out of this flux context thing.
Yeah, that's humorous.
Album art is usually humorous.
I can't wait to look and see how
many what's-that-in-your-mouth arts we
have.
It'll be interesting.
There you go, everybody.
That is John C.
Dvorak's tip of the day.
You can find more tip of the day
down at noagendafund.com Woo!
Yes, we always want to thank Dana Burnetti
for creating that.
What would we do without Dana Burnetti?
Soon to give the commencement speech will all
of our PhDs here at the No Agenda
Show.
And that is it for our broadcast day.
We thank you all for joining us.
Reminder, we'll be back on Thursday.
We do it twice a week.
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And figure out the rest for your GMT,
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Coming up next, right after this show, live
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Up is down.
That is...
I've never heard this podcast.
Interesting.
Episode 148.
I think we'll stick around for it.
End of show mixes.
We have Sir Scovey.
We heard him earlier on in the show.
And Mellow D.
Mellow D.
That's his new handle.
And I'm coming to you from the heart
of the Texas Hill Country right here in
Fredericksburg.
It's so cute in wine country.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we recommend
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It's blood against brushes, it's blood against trees.
It makes me think that maybe Putin doesn't
want to stop the war, and it's just
tapping me along.
Tapping me along.
Interesting.
He doesn't know it.
Where is this coming from?
Is that a code?
Is this something we don't know about?
I thought it was British stuff.
Why would Trump be using a British system?
Do we know what it means?
The version I believe to be the right
version is golf.
Yes, I agree, I think that's the case.
This is golf.
Tapping me along.
Interesting.
What's that?
CBT doesn't know it.
What is that, a song?
Tapping along is golf to me.
Tapping along.
This is golf.
Back to the shadows, or back to the
city.
You no longer have to be afraid.
Have to be afraid.
Have to be afraid.
But in this moment, this moment, this morning,
our sacred rule of law is under attack.
Journalism is under attack.
Universities are under attack.
Freedom of speech is under attack.
And insidious fear is reaching through our schools,
our businesses, our homes, and into our private
homes.
Provided by you, the fear can speak.
In America, in England, power can rewrite history
with grotesque and false narratives.
The best podcast in the universe.
Adios, mofo.
Dvorak.org slash NA.
What's that in your mouth?