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Why would I want to use my app?
I'm standing right here.
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Thursday, October 23rd, 2025.
This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media
Assassination Episode 1810.
This is no agenda.
Betting on sports ball and broadcasting live from
the heart of the Texas Hill Country here
in FEMA Region Number 6.
Good morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where whatever happened
to Putin, I'm John C.
Dvorak.
Oh, wait a minute.
Isn't he dying of Parkinson's disease?
Putin?
I thought it was a goner, man.
Remember, he looked bad.
You've been saying that years ago.
Yes, well, that's what I'm still waiting for.
I'm still waiting for it.
It's bullcrap.
I'm waiting for it.
Of course it's bullcrap.
You guys build like a bear.
So...
Where's the meeting?
Did you see the breaking news this morning?
Breaking news!
Breaking news!
The quad screen had it all.
Even the BBC, breaking news.
I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is
going on in here.
Breaking!
All right, some breaking news is catching everybody
by surprise.
The FBI arresting NBA player Terry Rozier early
this morning in connection with a widespread sports
betting investigation.
And he's not the only one.
This is huge news.
Nate Foley joins us live from Brooklyn with
the latest.
More breaking!
Hey, guys, good morning.
Yeah, breaking news that is sure to rock
the sports world.
You mentioned Terry Rozier, and he's not the
only one.
Chauncey Billups, the head coach of the Portland
Trailblazers and a multi-time all-star, a
finals MVP back in his playing days, also
arrested this morning as part of an FBI
investigation into illegal sports gambling.
Now, Rozier, he was arrested in Orlando this
morning, and he was there because the Miami
Heat played the Orlando Magic last night.
Rozier was active for that game, but he
did not play as part of a coach's
decision.
Now, this all comes after The Wall Street
Journal reported back in January that Rozier was
under federal investigation related to a 2023 game
back when he played for the Charlotte Hornets,
where there was a surge of suspicious gambling
activity related to the under on his performance
with points, rebounds and assist in a game
where Rozier ended up leaving after about 10
minutes with an ankle injury.
So The Wall Street Journal report detailed it
so that it appeared that perhaps Rozier was
accused of changing his performance in the game
in order for other people to make money
on his bets or on their bets.
Yeah, there it is.
Your art is fake.
Your music is fake.
Your sports ball is fake.
The world is fake and phony.
Welcome, everybody, to the show.
We talked about this before, which is the
prop bets.
Yes, that was a prop bet on his
underperformance.
Well, wow.
OK, that's easy to do.
Oh, I don't feel good.
I think I'll walk off the field, walk
off the court.
I hurt myself.
Yeah, this is fantastic.
It's all fake.
But did these two guys come on?
This has got to be a rampant problem.
Oh, no, no, no.
That was just the breaking news.
I mean, the FBI says it's tied to
the mob.
It's ongoing.
The coverage is wall to wall.
It's breaking.
It's breaking my screen.
It's so it's so bright.
And it's so important.
Well, no, of course not.
But it's still funny.
No, what's important?
Oh, no.
What's important is Bad Bunny.
This is a long pause there for a
reason.
Yes, because you're like, what is Bad Bunny?
We know about Bad Bunny.
You're the last on the block.
This is old news you're going to start
to discuss.
It just it pops up again.
They do this and they do Bad Bunny.
If it's old news, I guess I don't
have to play any clips because everybody knows
that already.
Everybody knows.
Oh, yeah.
Bad Bunny thing.
The Bad Bunny thing began when they announced
it, which was weeks ago.
Yeah, but now they announce an alternative halftime
show.
Did you know that's called go into the
kitchen and make some food?
No, it's the I think it's called the
all American, all American halftime show.
Which will be put on a different channel.
Now it's going to be on the Internet,
baby.
Oh, yeah, that'll do it.
There's nothing more convenient than putting the Internet
on your TV.
But what do you mean?
On your big screen TV, are you watching
the Super Bowl?
YouTube is easy.
People put YouTube on.
It'll be it'll be streaming on YouTube.
I think that's pretty easy.
You don't think so?
I mean, I can do it.
I have the equipment to do it.
But I'm I'm watching the Super Bowl.
I did probably if I'm a typical viewer
of the Super Bowl, I like to see
the ads.
And no one nobody watches the Super Bowl
for ads anymore.
No, I don't watch it now, please.
They still do.
One iconic ad from the Super Bowl from
the past five Super Bowls.
The 1984 past.
Exactly.
There it is.
Iconic from 1984 was great.
I think the Burger King.
Where's the beef?
That was probably one.
No, that wasn't a Super Bowl.
That was all played everywhere.
And how about was we had that one?
That was not a Super Bowl.
OK, so you're proving my point.
You cannot name the Super Bowl.
I would be the herding cats, I think,
would be the one would be pure.
What was the brand?
What was the brand?
A cat herding company.
Yeah, OK.
And by the way, you don't there's nothing
is assured.
You don't know if you'll be in it.
You don't know if there's going to be
an Internet.
An error message popping up on Snapchat.
The messaging was predominantly by teens, just one
of the many apps affected after a global
outage hit the cloud services of Amazon, according
to a website which monitors problems on the
Internet.
The outage has impacted companies hitting platforms, links
to McDonald's texting service signal and Disney Plus.
I love it.
Oh, no.
Just listen to all the crap that didn't
work.
Everything is completely non-essential.
Nothing that went down was important really in
your life at all.
Amazon's cloud is used by international companies and
governments as well.
In the United Kingdom, the country's tax authority
was facing disruptions.
Amazon Web Services provides on demand cloud computing,
data storage and other offerings as well.
AWS competes with Google and the Microsoft Cloud.
Monday's outage is the first major Internet disruption
to hit on a global scale after last
year's crowd strike malfunctioned, impacting operations in banks,
hospitals and airports.
According to analysts, it demonstrates just how dependent
the vast majority of global companies and governments
have become on a handful of American tech
firms.
An initial investigation from Amazon suggests the problem
stemmed from a critical infrastructure zone in Virginia.
Yeah.
Now, why don't you just say what it
really was?
DNS.
They don't even, they can't say what it
really was because they don't know how to
pronounce DNS.
It's like a phone book that helps you
find the computers on the Internet.
It was a glitch.
I will note that the No Agenda show,
downloads did not suffer from any glitch.
The No Agenda stream, the troll room, everything
kept on rolling because we decentralize.
Decentralize or die, people.
Everyone can decentralize.
Yeah, but they don't.
Why?
Is it that much cheaper?
Oh, no.
In fact, I think it's more expensive.
I think it's just...
Wait a minute.
Let me get this straight.
It's more expensive and less secure.
Well, not a good idea.
No, it's...
But that's what they're doing.
I don't know if you'd say less secure,
but not a good idea.
I'm all in on that.
Yeah, of course it's not a good idea.
Of course not.
But also notice, they say the Internet went
down.
No, a bunch of dumb apps in your
McDonald's.
The McDonald's app, where every single time I
go to the drive-thru, which is not
often.
Don't mind me walking my McDonald's in the
mobile app.
It took me at least five drive-thrus
to understand what they were talking about.
I go through the McDonald's window about...
Once a quarter.
No, no, that's for actually eating.
But once in a while, I just go
through to harass them.
No, I get an ice cream cone once
in a while when it's hot out here.
Without ice cream.
Just give me a cone.
And so every time I hit that thing
right at the beginning, I say, would you
like to use your app?
Why would I want to use my app?
I'm standing right here.
I'm right here.
I'm a person and I'm here.
What do I need to go on the
phone for?
I love that question.
It just makes no sense to me.
Come on, I'm not using the mobile app.
They must use the mobile app because some
guys there can barely speak English down in
Texas.
That's why they're like, please say yes.
I'm using the mobile app because you can't
understand me and I can't understand you, gringo.
It's the most insulting thing.
Yeah, I actually agree with you.
What is the benefit of the mobile app
if you're in the drive-thru?
You're standing there.
It makes no sense, but they still ask.
They're trying to train every...
This is bullcrap.
What they're trying to do, obviously, is to
train you to use your phone for everything
so they can eliminate the drive-thru window
and you pop on your phone on your
way over there and then you just go
and pick up your order from a robot.
They want to get rid of people.
Yes, well, they've already...
Most McDonald's restaurants, you know, they're restaurants, by
the way.
Oh, yes, I always think of...
When I think of dining, I think of
McDonald's.
Because, oh, I know a lot of the
owner-operators and they say, well, we have
eight restaurants in the Austin area.
I'm like, what?
Don't you operate McDonald's?
Yes, that's our restaurants.
They've been trying to get rid of people
and they have successfully gotten rid of a
lot of employees.
When you walk in, there's big touchscreens.
Then you just...
You place your order on the touchscreen so
that you don't have to bother a human
being trying to figure out what you want
at the cash register.
And they actually say that it's good because
then they can put more college grads to
work in the kitchen to improve your drive
-through and your mobile app experience.
What?
Why is it better to have a college
kid flipping burgers?
Well, so the college kid can pay for
his tuition, you know, the way it used
to be.
That's what...
You know, college kids in the burger...
Flipping burgers is not what I want.
You're going to think it's beneath them.
We don't even want the food.
And they're going to spit in the food.
I heard about you can spit in the
food.
Oh, yeah.
That's not true.
They're not spitting it.
Maybe if they...
Hey, there's that...
The college kids are.
There's that Dvorak guy asking for an ice
cream cone.
Spit on it.
Nice.
So there was another glitch, a very important
glitch, so important that CBS did a whole
segment on it.
What a glitch.
The Instagram glitch that was really, really bad.
The cyber world has some pretty rough neighborhoods.
The cyber world.
This is like 1995 reporting.
The cyber world has some pretty rough neighborhoods.
I don't know why John Dickerson took that
job to sit next to that other doofus.
Well, CBS is the worst.
How about this?
For the money?
Oh, yeah.
I'm sure he has more money than he
used to.
The cyber world has some pretty rough neighborhoods.
Earlier this year, a glitch spread graphic violent
videos to unsuspecting Instagram users.
Instagram's owner says it has fixed the problem
and now has filters to protect younger users.
But a CBS News data dive finds violent...
Ooh!
Ooh!
Data dive?
A CBS News data dive.
Whoa!
It's the data dive.
I think I should try that, a data
dive.
But a CBS News data dive finds violent
content is still pervasive on Instagram reels.
Usher Gracie has tonight's Ion America.
And we caution you, some of the subject
matter is disturbing.
Yeah, we want to get in on that
action.
We want to get in on that disturbing
actions.
It's working for Instagram.
So what was the glitch?
Jack Hughes says the gory videos that popped
up on his Instagram feed in February were
unlike anything he'd seen before.
Wait, hold on a second.
Hey, why are you playing us old news?
This is not old news.
He said February.
Well, yeah, it's a new report.
I mean...
Are you telling...
Wait a minute.
Are you telling me that CBS is reporting
on something that happened in February and this
news report just came out like yesterday?
Is that what you're saying?
I think it might have come out today.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
February?
Well, how...
That's, what, six months ago?
How about this?
Hey, um...
Hold on.
Hey, guys, listen, we got a...
We have an internet outage.
We need some more stories.
We want to do some human interest stuff.
Do we have anything from a couple of
months ago?
Anything?
We got anything, guys?
Yeah, boss, I got a glitch on Instagram.
Yeah, perfect.
Bring it over here.
How about that?
They're stretching.
They got tired.
Stretching is the word.
You got the right word for it.
Let's listen to the report.
Because there's an exit strategy in here for
us.
Jack Hughes says the gory videos that popped
up on his Instagram feed in February were
unlike anything he'd seen before.
It's worse than anyone can imagine.
It's like I saw somebody getting their head
squished like a watermelon.
Though the 19-year-old from Wisconsin understands
algorithms drive his feed, he says the violent
videos appeared without warning.
Did you wonder why this stuff was populating
your feed?
I had no idea.
It turns out that day in February, according...
I was expecting naked chicks with guns.
...to Meta, Instagram's parent company, its algorithm malfunctioned,
pushing graphic and violent content to users worldwide.
A CBS News investigation found violent and graphic
content depicting injury or death, known as gore,
remains widespread on Instagram reels.
Between February and April, we identified more than
600...
It's known as gore.
Didn't you know that?
So why weren't they reporting this in February
when it happened?
I think...
So we could try to track it down
and maybe even talk about it.
Why did they wait this long to report
this story?
That's the question, besides the fact that your
theory, which is that we need more material
because of the downage, outage.
Well, I'm sure they had the story.
It was good to go.
My story got killed because of something Trump
did.
In February.
So yeah, of course, that's exactly what happened.
I just like that they...
It's known as gore.
Were you aware that heads being squished like
watermelons is as categorized as gore?
That's like Chad GPT calling porn erotica.
Well, they've tried to suppress using the term
gore because it refers also to Al Gore
in climate science.
And so you don't...
You're referring to gore.
I don't know.
I'm surprised that CBS even threw that in.
A CBS News investigation found violent and graphic
content depicting injury or death known as gore
remains widespread on Instagram reels.
Between February and April, we identified more than
600 accounts posting real world violence.
And that content isn't just shocking.
It's profitable.
Now, this is the...
Here's the exit strategy.
This is what I had no idea was
going on.
We found Instagram hosts a thriving gray market
where gambling sites, crypto apps, and porn agencies
pay to slip ads in between the gore.
Shootings.
Duh.
Really?
Really?
There's advertising going on in between the gore?
Car crashes, stuff like that.
Matthew Fuhrman is one of those profiting from
gore videos.
Profiting from gore.
A 22-year-old college student, he uses
a dozen phones and hundreds of email accounts
to share content with his 18 million followers
across 80 Instagram accounts.
This guy could also be doing automatic downloads
of podcasts to juice up the numbers as
far as I'm concerned.
This is the outrage.
Let's get a hold of this guy.
This guy knows what he's doing.
He does.
Average month.
How many views would some gory, violent content
that you post get?
Close to a billion.
Across all my accounts.
A billion with a B?
Sounds like Meta's doing a good job of
filtering with a billion views.
With those views, shares, and likes.
Nobody noticed?
I guess not.
Fuhrman builds connections with other creators and makes
money helping them gain followers.
Ah, this is the follower for sale gambit.
I like this guy already.
Earning him up to $70,000 a month.
He claims a higher purpose to his postings.
Some of it's pretty disturbing to look at,
don't you think?
Yeah, but it's to raise awareness so people
know.
Like, don't play with guns.
So you think it's more educational than voyeuristic?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's educational.
Don't you understand?
I'm doing this...
Don't play with guns.
...to educate the kids.
Does Meta make money when this type of
content gets engagement?
A hundred percent.
Ravi Iyer is a former Meta executive who
oversaw content moderation.
I don't think Meta's responsible for every bad
thing that happens on the internet or happens
on their platform.
People are going to do bad things.
But they've created an environment where people are
effectively getting paid to do bad things.
We asked Meta repeatedly about their specific enforcement
actions.
While they wouldn't answer questions about our findings,
they provided a statement that read in part,
It's our policy not to recommend violent content,
restrict it from being monetized, and add warning
labels.
And for teens, we aim to hide graphic
content entirely, even if it's shared by someone
they follow.
For millions of users, the question now isn't
just what they see online, but what Meta
lets them see.
No, that's my question.
I was just, I'm one of the millions.
What are you letting me see?
What are you not letting me see?
I want the gore algo.
The al-gore rhythm.
Al-gore.
Rhythm.
Al-gore rhythm.
There you go.
Al-gore rhythm.
Al-gore rhythm.
Yes.
Yeah, I know.
That's actually a pretty interesting report.
Well, thank you.
Well, for a couple of reasons.
One, it was easy for me to jump
in and moan and groan about the date
in February.
Which is like, what are you good guys
at CBS doing?
Is this the best you can do for
news, quote unquote, news?
Is this the new Barry Weiss editorial ship?
Is that what we're looking at here?
Is Barry Weiss behind this?
Oh, I got a great idea.
Six months ago, guess what happened?
From a garbage can.
Get Barry Weiss on the phone for me.
We need more of this.
This is good.
Good work.
Is this the new Skydance content?
Is that what that is, maybe?
I don't think so.
I don't think she's really thrown in yet.
And, you know, David Ellison is not getting
the credit he deserves for killing MTV.
You know about this, right?
They turned off.
No, I don't.
Now you have to tell me.
I don't know.
He killed it, so it no longer exists.
Well, MTV, of course, the channel MTV no
longer exists, has not existed as a music
video channel for a long time.
Yeah, well, that's well known.
Right, 16 and pregnant and that kind of
stuff.
Yeah, good stuff.
But they had the good stuff.
All right.
They had five other music channels that you
could find on pretty much every cable channel.
One was like the classic 80s.
One was all rock.
One was all hip hop.
And once the acquisition was done, boom, those
all get turned off.
They looked at the numbers.
Of course they did.
We had a gathering here.
We had a gathering yesterday here.
A gathering about 16 people.
For what purpose?
Just to hang out.
You know, we're just entertaining.
We're just entertaining.
We entertain.
You know, we don't have any kids anymore.
They don't call us.
We don't know if they're alive.
So we entertain.
We have a great house for entertaining.
You have a party house.
Yes, a baller party house.
I have a button.
I press the button and one wall goes
all the way up and it's out to
the screen forwards.
Yeah, it's baller.
Baller.
Baller, spitting ball.
Baller.
And every single one of these Gen Xers,
most of them are a couple of boomers,
but most of them Gen Xers.
Hey, man, this really sucks about MTV.
Like, really?
Yeah, I watch it all the time.
Like, wow, you need a life.
This is no good.
Were you really watching that?
Yeah.
Oh, have you heard of YouTube?
You know, you can get video music channels.
Yeah, but it made me feel good about
the old days.
So yeah, I understand.
So it's gone.
It's dead.
And we even had a report, which this
is the funny thing.
We had a report that there was a
dinner and some of the, probably some of
the people who were here last night were
at a dinner with David Ellison.
And they were saying, hey, man, you should
bring MTV back.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Instead, he, like, psyched.
He just killed it all off.
So an era is gone.
An era is gone.
It's over.
I thought you still used her.
Oh, I misunderstood.
All right, since we're here.
An era is gone.
I thought it was already gone.
What you told me is all news to
me that they had these channels.
No, a lot of people think, they think
a lot of people watch them, but I
don't think so.
I'm with you.
The numbers showed nothing.
It was just cost.
That's exactly right.
That's what you.
If you're David Ellison, that's what you do.
You're trying to get this thing.
You just dropped a bundle of money.
You got yourself leveraged.
You got things.
You got your crooked bookkeeper in there trying
to fix things.
You start.
You got to do.
You got to take action.
You start stripping the assets.
Exactly.
He could have sold that, though.
He could have sold that to someone else.
I mean, the guy at the party.
Since we're on technology news, this is the,
I think the funniest.
There was a half hour interview with Jensen
from NVIDIA.
What's his name?
Jensen Wong.
Hong, you know him.
What's the guy's name?
Yeah, Jensen Wing.
Yeah, he's sitting.
So he's sitting in the CNBC studios.
First of all, the believability of this kook
with his leather jacket on.
Put on a suit.
Will you put on a sweater?
Leather jacket.
You're in the studio in the leather.
I'm the hip guy.
And so it's really dumb.
Somebody's got to take him aside.
Dude, Jensen, man, stop with the leather jacket.
Stop with the leather jacket.
Put on a suit.
It'll look good.
Anything, a sweater.
Get a Zelensky outfit.
Anything but this.
This is not happening.
And so he's talking about the money being
invested in AI, which is now at this
point completely circular.
Everybody's pushing the money to the next guy,
and then it goes back to AI and
then to NVIDIA.
And NVIDIA puts it into the next company.
It's a circle jerk of money.
It's a circle jerk of money.
But the truth comes out at the end.
It was hilarious.
Our agreement basically entails us selling entire systems
and infrastructure to them.
We're the only company in the world today
that really focuses on building the entire AI
infrastructure from CPUs to GPUs to networking chips
and switches of all kinds and all the
software stacks that go along with that.
And so we're quite a unique partner for
them to be able to do this.
I guess the question becomes, it's great for
you to sell it directly to them, but
they don't have the money to buy it
at this point.
Is that why the deal was structured the
way it is, where you'll get a stake
in open AI over time?
They don't have the money yet.
And the way that it's going to happen,
for every gigawatt of AI factories, you're probably
going to need about $50 to $60 billion
for the land-powered shell and all the
computing and networking and everything that goes along
with that.
And they're going to have to raise that
money through, first of all, the revenues, which
is growing exponentially, equity or debt.
And they gave us the opportunity to invest
alongside other investors when the time comes.
And so it's not something we have to
do, but it's something that they're giving us
the opportunity to do and I would love
to do.
You know, one of the things that we
did, we invested in open AI early on.
My only regret is that we didn't invest
more.
I mean, this is the most profitable, well,
the most valuable startup company ever.
This is the most profitable, I mean, valuable
company ever.
See, they're smoking their own dope.
They really believe that it's profit somehow.
No, he knew it wasn't profitable.
That's why he changed his view.
Yeah, but it was on his mind.
Nvidia's profitable though, right?
They're profitable.
Oh, yeah, they make serious money.
Yeah, yeah.
And then they invest.
This is some of the AI clips.
I got a, this is a clip, this
doesn't bode well.
You got some AI clips, oh, nice.
I got some from the past show, which
we can play, but this got nothing to
do with what we're talking about.
This does though, this is a problem.
This is a problem.
Yes, AI.
Google is facing a lawsuit over its artificial
intelligence products.
Robbie Starbuck, a conservative filmmaker, says Google's AI
has made fake allegations against him, falsely accusing
him of crimes like sexual assault.
NTT's David Lam has more.
Google is being sued by Robbie Starbuck, a
conservative social media activist and filmmaker.
He says that the tech giant has spread
lies about him through its artificial intelligence products
for almost two years.
Starbuck made the announcement on X today.
At one point, Google's AI even stated that
my name was in Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs,
citing imaginary articles in the New York Post
and also one from Mediaite that also says
I was suspended by Daily Wire over sexual
harassment allegations.
He claims that Google's Bard, Gemini, and Gemma
has been defaming him with fake criminal allegations,
including sexual assault, child rape, abuse, fraud, stalking
and drug charges.
AI usually provides source links when asked for
verification.
But even then, Starbuck said the AI routinely
cited fake sources.
According to Starbuck, Google's AI says that he
was targeted because of his political views.
Google spokesperson Jose Castaneda said most of the
claims were related to mistaken hallucinations from Google's
Bard large language model, and the company worked
to address it in 2023.
NTD reached out to Google for further comments,
but did not hear back by deadline.
Starbuck is asking for at least $15 million
in damages.
Down to 25.
I'm with you on that.
Someone negotiated against themselves on that deal.
I don't know what he's thinking, but this
is just the tip of the iceberg.
Yes.
Yes, it's a brave new world.
I'm glad we know Rob Carty, the constitutional
lawyer.
Because, you know, we're going to call on
him one of these days.
It's going to be some schlub doing something
with us.
We're going to sue the pants off of
him, John.
As long as the schlub has money.
Google has money.
All these companies with their billions of dollars
in their circle jerking around.
They got tons of money because, hey, well,
you just spent 50 billion dollars on this.
You got money.
Definitely have a lot of money.
Made it off my back.
So, yes, this is this.
I don't think it's going to be the
slop as much as this hallucination of liability.
That's going to be the the issue here.
Yeah, it'll bring it down.
This whole thing's a house of cards.
I like it.
Unlike you, you hate it.
I don't.
I like it.
But I see the house of cards part.
It's just it's going to blow up the
whole market with it.
But I don't hate it.
I mean, I've even succumbed to end of
show mixes being all A.I. now.
Yeah.
You used the word you just used right
there indicates your your actual attitude.
What do you use the word succumbed?
Well, OK, that means you were beaten into
submission.
Well, you succumb.
There's a injury.
Well, no, there's a reason for this, because
I think that there is that no agenda
records and publishing because you've got to have
the publishing.
I think we have a shot.
I think we have a real shot right
now.
And this comes to us thanks to one
of our producers, Bill Walsh, who is ordinarily
a huge pain in my butt.
This guy, he's the he's the guy that
kept telling me I was an idiot for
invest.
Don't invest in Bitcoin.
Get XRP.
Ripple is the future.
The XRP guy, XRP guy.
Oh, yeah.
I've heard from you, too.
Yes.
So he said, you know, I heard you
guys talking about A.I. music and how
what you really need is a personality to
front the music.
And I said, you know, yeah, we could
we should have our own Milli Vanilli.
And he came up with a genius idea.
I have to hand it to him.
If you go to Ashland speed dot com
dot cloud, I'm sorry, a s h l
y and speed dot cloud.
He has devised an entire EP of four
songs that Ashland Speed can lip sync.
And, you know, and she's perfect.
She's a race car driver.
She's from Texas.
You know, she looks good.
She could have a dual career and we
could be the publishers.
Listen to this.
This thing in a race.
Yeah, listen to this little country twang.
And she puts some no agenda in there.
It's all good.
I'm a small town girl used to chasing.
This is fantastic.
But you're leaving for my heart at the
scene.
Yeah, Ashland Speed, everybody.
Yeah.
We get the sponsor in there.
First stop is Mazda marketing.
No agenda.
Yeah.
Yeah, baby.
She has in these songs, she sings about
Mazda.
I mean, this is great.
Mazda marketing.
But I can see it.
I can see we can do we can
have a whole stable, a whole stable of
stable.
Right.
Why not?
Why one?
Exactly.
We got to scale.
We at least we have the Silicon Valley
attitude.
Yes.
Scale until we take over the world.
Scale it up, baby.
Not only that, but there will be no
other music but ours.
Exactly.
Everyone will be all in on our stuff.
Yes.
I like it.
Yeah, I know.
I thought I knew you would like it
whenever there's money involved.
John's record publishing business has got to be
a moneymaker, even though now is the time
because everyone says it's not a moneymaker.
Yeah.
Now is the time not to be in
the business because of this.
Yes.
And well, you know, Sir Gene, he just
published his his creation, which we'll have to
sign.
I mean, he jumped the gun a little
bit, but he's on Spotify now with Amy
Clare Smith.
Amy Clare Smith, he created a whole persona
that she could easily be in our stable.
And it's a whole album of Christian music
from Sir Gene.
Yes.
From Gene.
Yes.
The Russian spook.
Yes.
And he was texting Tina like, what do
you think of this song?
What do you think of this song?
This is great.
No Agenda Records.
No Agenda.
N.A.M.P. No Agenda Music Publishing.
NAMP.
NAMP.
It's our future.
You got to get this off the ground.
Yeah.
Well, it's not that hard.
We just got to register with Spotify and
the other guys, and then we'll immediately have
a put up a content strike against Gene.
Hey, if you're not on our label, we're
going to content strike you for stealing our
stuff.
Yeah, you're already getting the right idea.
Yeah.
Being an asshole music publisher.
You know, I've been around him all my
life.
It's not that hard.
I know exactly what to do.
I know how to do it.
It's not like this is slouch kind of
thing.
It's like it's not as though you're going
to be naive.
No, I think this is better than the
microphone company, although.
Hey, you can do it.
Yeah.
Don't threaten.
Not instead of, but in addition to.
Don't even threaten.
I'm going to.
I'm waiting for the tariff thing to settle
down.
Oh, now it's tariffs.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I saw that coming a mile away.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're waiting for the tariffs.
OK.
And at the same time, the tariffs are
the reason for Dvorak dot dot org slash
and a still being old tariffs.
Is that it?
Tariffs?
No, exactly.
I knew it.
Month full.
You have a month full.
You're back.
I'm back.
You're on here.
Exactly.
Exactly.
All right.
Hey.
So we've been talking about these Gen Z
things, right?
Is said the Zed's about the Zed color
revolutions.
So I'm watching the 60 minutes extended 60
minutes interview with Jared Kushner and Steve.
We're the first person who's ever watched that.
It popped up for me.
It popped the Algo gave it to me.
Thank you.
Thank you, Google.
So it popped up for me.
And it was actually is quite good because
they go through all the steps of negotiation.
And then when Israel bombed the Qatar and
how that was handled, the whole thing is
very informative, completely useless for the show.
Unclipable.
Nothing you'd want.
Yes.
To be long.
Jared Kushner looks like his whole voice is
Botox.
Nothing moves when he talks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's getting close to look like one of
those putty faced woman on the I've had
it podcast.
Yeah, it's it's it's odd.
However, right near the very end, as they
start talking about peace, because, you know, peace
is infectious.
Where Steve Whitkoff reveals something interesting.
What about Ukraine?
Are you working on it?
Well, we are.
You are actively actively.
I'm just always available to Steve as needed.
Doing a peace deal is becoming infectious.
People want to do them.
People want to get to this place.
You know, it's it's not I don't think
it's it's coincidental that leaders are now coming
to the White House saying, how do we
move a peace deal forward in Ukraine?
And we're getting calls from the Iranians.
So what?
Yeah.
So what are they saying?
What?
Peace is infectious now.
Who are the Iranians calling?
Well, well, we're we're we're we're there to,
you know, hopefully have a long term diplomatic
solution with Iran.
So and someone's working on that.
Oh, yeah.
We're working on we're working on Algeria and
Morocco right now, our team.
And there's going to be a peace deal
there in the next.
In my.
Did you hear it?
Oh, what?
And Algeria and Morocco.
Morocco.
Yeah.
Yes.
And someone's working on that.
Oh, yeah.
We're working on we're working on Algeria and
Morocco right now.
Our team.
We want our team.
We wanted to know who was behind it
is us.
We're the ones we are.
We already said in the last show.
No, we questioned it.
We said we have.
Wow.
You surprised me.
The whole I said on the last show,
I said that Morocco was the model.
You said we got to figure out who's
behind it, if it's us or not.
We had no proof.
Now we have.
No, but I did.
Right.
Yes.
For the fact that it's not happening here.
I thought we both concluded that it had
to be us.
It had.
We didn't.
We don't know who it is at all.
Take the win.
OK, I'll take the win.
But I did.
But I want to make sure that that
the fine points of the win are noted
because it's going to come up in the
conversation.
This is not something that's going away.
No, but this is us.
Oh, yeah.
We got a team in place on discord.
On discord.
He left that out.
I wish he would have said that it
would have been perfect.
So meanwhile, because you brought up Ukraine, there's
something very strange happening in the EU.
And let me see, because I have a
couple of different clips.
So first, we have the new sanctions against
Russia, which have been implemented, which is totally
going to screw the EU even further.
But there's more going on here.
The European Union and the United States have
imposed new sanctions against Russia in a bid
to force the Kremlin to accept an immediate
ceasefire in Ukraine.
The US sanctions announced on Wednesday target Russia's
two largest oil companies, Rosneft and Lukoil, with
the former also being blacklisted by the EU
bloc.
The new sanctions were the first to be
imposed by the US during President Donald Trump's
second term, who on Wednesday said he hopes
that his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin will engage
in diplomacy and agree to a ceasefire.
They're massive sanctions and sanctions on oil.
The two biggest oil companies, among the biggest
in the world.
But they're Russian.
They do a lot of oil.
And hopefully it'll push.
Hopefully he'll become reasonable.
And hopefully Zelensky will be reasonable to, you
know, takes two to tango, as they say.
And we're going to find out.
The decision represents a win for Europeans who
have spent 10 months pleading with Washington to
tighten the screws on the Russian economy, which
lead to success until now.
Aside from a host of financial measures, the
EU's latest round of sanctions includes the bloc's
first ever ban on imports of Russian liquefied
natural gas, LNG, which will apply from the
start of 2027.
2027.
Okay, so but here's what's happening.
So Zelensky's been doing the rounds again.
He's flying around everybody.
Is he ever in Ukraine anymore?
No.
Why?
It's dangerous there.
Why would you want to be in Ukraine?
So he's out there in Brussels and he's
standing with EU Council President Antonio Costa.
I guess he's kind of Ursula's counterpart.
She's in the parliament.
He's in the council.
And he makes a big, long deal of
giving him money.
Dear Vladimir, as a future member of the
European Union, I'm very glad to have you
here among our colleagues.
First message.
In spite of the great expectations created by
President Trump's initiatives, that's clear today that unfortunately,
these initiatives doesn't match the goodwill of President
Putin.
What he's trying to say is, hey, man,
Trump is making you buy that stuff.
Now, that's no good.
He was supposed to give it to you.
And Russia, Russia is increasing the strikes, is
increasing the strikes against civilians, against civilian facilities.
And then means that we need to continue
to support your fight for a just and
lasting peace.
So we're going to support your fight with
money.
And the first thing, this is nuts.
This is this is like suicide.
150 jets from Sweden.
Yes, I heard that.
And here's douchebag Doug.
He's back on France 24.
I mean, while the Ukrainian president, Vladimir Zelensky,
is touring his European allies, he met the
Swedish prime minister today and both leaders signed
a cooperation deal.
Well, joining me on set now is our
international affairs editor, Douglas Herbert.
Doug, what do we know about this deal
then?
What's it about?
Well, what's that's the beginning of a potentially
massive export deal, aircraft export deal.
It would be these fighter jets.
They're called Gripen.
Gripen.
Produced by Sweden's Saab.
The Swedish government would essentially be buying them
from Saab and then supplying them to Ukraine.
And the order calls for, you know, within
the next three years or so, ramping up
production of these jets.
It's a fourth generation of these jets, to
perhaps 100 to 150 of them, sending them
on to Ukraine.
The Gripen are basically, when I said their
fourth generation, they've been around a while, but
they were really deployed in this new generation
for the first time this year, actually Thailand
in its confrontation with Cambodia.
And what they are is they're used in
aerial air to air combat, sort of aerial
bombardment missions, also reconnaissance missions.
It's everything, really, the type of jet aircraft,
the jet fighters that Ukraine needs for its
future air force, especially at a time where
it's really more and more up against it
in the face of higher technology types of
Russian attacks, greater swarms of drones and missiles,
almost night after night at this point coming
from Russian.
So I don't know much about these jets,
these Gripen jets.
I don't know if they're any good, but
this is not going to please the president.
We have military people listening to the show
that should tell us where this jet stands
in the scheme of things.
And douchebag Doug winds it up here with,
you know, this is basically a hedge against
America helping, I guess.
It's the type of deal that European countries
have now been sort of hard pressed to
try to step up to the plate and
provide, because as you see, Donald Trump's been
stepping back from the Ukrainian front, no longer
directly supplying Ukraine, and rather cajoling, you might
use the word bullying, the Europeans to buy
the weapons from U.S. stockpiles and then
supply them on to Ukraine.
So the Europeans have really been taking on
the brunt.
And within Europe itself, the Nordic countries, such
as Sweden, which let's not forget, just joined
NATO last year, 2024, it's a new member
of NATO, really trying to step up in
this long-term cooperation agreement.
Like I said, it's the beginning.
They've signed a letter of intent, which really
starts the whole process.
Saab is going to have to ramp up
its production of these jets, maybe over the
next couple of years, producing 20 to 30
of them a year.
I think the initial production is already 60
are in the pipeline, like I said, up
to 100 to 150 of them.
It's a big deal, perhaps Sweden's biggest airport,
aircraft export deal ever.
I'll just mention he was in Norway before
this.
It's a swing of the Nordic countries.
Norway's donating almost $150 million to Ukraine for
a natural gas deal with electricity and heating
through what's expected to be a very cold
and difficult winter.
So is this just virtue signaling?
This doesn't sound like a real deal at
all.
A letter of intent.
I've signed a lot of those.
We intend to do this, but that doesn't
mean we're going to do it.
That's a very European thing, by the way.
Letter of intent.
Yes, we have an LOI.
Ever noticed that, that the Europeans love doing
LOIs?
I haven't noticed it, but now that you
mentioned it, I'm now thinking about it and
it's probably true.
Yeah, they do.
Oh, we have a letter of intent with
you.
That's very good.
Yes.
Oh, so you could do like a trial
balloon in the press.
Yeah, it's like a test marketing.
Yeah.
And this, of course, this news is trying
to be suppressed, I think mainly by, I
think maybe even the Trump administration, this shenanigans
with the procurement of NATO.
What, bribes?
No, say it ain't true.
Tensions within the North Atlantic Treaty Alliance as
a vast investigation into suspected irregularities in the
agency's awarding of arms contracts continues.
Three Belgian media, together with a Dutch investigative
website, found that several former and current NATO
employees are accused of accepting bribes between 2021
and 2025.
This involves contracts issued by the NATO Support
and Procurement Agency, which manages multi-billion euro
defense purchases on behalf of the alliance's 32
member states.
say the men allegedly received tens of thousands
of euros for passing confidential information to defense
firms seeking to secure lucrative contracts.
At least three people were arrested in May
as part of an investigation into the alleged
corruption at the Luxembourg-based agency.
At the time, an operation dubbed Clean Hands
was initiated with participation by several agencies, including
the NSPA, the FBI and the European Judicial
Agency.
These investigations are ongoing.
NATO on Monday reaffirmed its zero-tolerance policy
towards fraud and corruption, stressing its commitment to
transparency.
If you're taking bribes for billions of dollars,
why do you take 10,000?
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
Do it right.
It's like the guys, this is the same
thing as the NBA betting scandal.
Yeah, but it may just be the tip
of the iceberg.
Must be.
Just the tip of the iceberg.
So I'll wrap this up with a one
clip from my boy there in Canada, Rassoulis.
As the Budapest negotiations have been postponed, this
is the meeting that's supposed to happen between
President Trump and President Putin.
Andrew, Rassoulis joins me.
Well, before you play it, this is an
interesting, actually before you play that, play my
clip, the Russia, Trump clip at the bottom
of the list.
Then you wrap it.
But there's something, this whole thing, you know,
I'm thinking about this because Trump came out
and said, well, you know, I just don't
feel like, I'm going to, your original thesis
that he's really screwing the Europeans here by
cutting off their supply of oil.
And natural gas.
And natural gas.
Yeah.
And the fact that Trump says, I don't
know, I was going to have this meeting
in Budapest, but I don't feel like it.
And there was a long, long call between
Lavrov and Rubio, supposedly went well.
And there was a long call between Trump
and Putin for two and a half hours
that supposedly went well.
And now all of a sudden this is
happening.
This sounds very suspect.
Well, I believe there's collusion going on between
Trump and Putin.
Yeah, of course there is.
And they're going after, probably, the North Sea
Nexus.
But look at it.
We don't need your jets, man.
We got these Grippins, whatever.
They were great in the Thailand-Cambodia conflict.
Yeah, that must have been a whopper of
a conflict.
President Trump is now imposing what he calls,
quote, tremendous sanctions on Russia's two biggest oil
companies as he calls on Moscow for an
immediate ceasefire with the war in Ukraine.
This is happening as President Trump confirms canceling
his Budapest summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Take a look.
Today is a very big day in terms
of what we're doing.
Look, these are tremendous sanctions.
These are very big.
These are against their two big oil companies.
And we hope that they won't be on
for long.
We hope that the war will be settled.
When we canceled the meeting with President Putin,
it didn't feel right to me.
It didn't feel like we were going to
get to the place we have to get.
President Trump also calls on U.S. allies
to enforce the same sanctions and says that
he hopes that these sanctions will help Putin,
quote, become reasonable.
And on other foreign affairs, President Trump confirms
that he has what he calls a pretty
long meeting scheduled with CCP leader Xi Jinping
on the sidelines of APEC in South Korea.
President Trump says that he's optimistic about a
deal where China buys American soybeans.
He also says he thinks that Xi Jinping
can have a, quote, big influence on Putin
and help end the war in Ukraine.
Oh, this is the trifecta.
So we bring Putin and China and it'll
be USA, CCP, USSR against the monarchies.
I still like that theory.
Andrew Rossellius.
It's an exciting theory.
Yeah.
Andrew Rossellius has a little more straightforward view
on it.
But there was a there was a funny.
Yeah, I want to hear that.
But there was a funny meme floating around
saying they had these no kings rallies in
these various countries.
And half those countries have monarchs.
Yeah, they have kings.
Of course.
No kings rally in a monarchy.
Whoops.
Andrew Rossellius joins me now.
He's a retired official with the Department of
National Defense.
Good morning, Andrew, as always.
Great to have you with us.
So Russia sending out drone and missile attacks
hours after Trump said that meeting with Putin
was off the table.
What does this say about Russia's position on
a ceasefire and seeing an end to this
war?
It's very clear.
Lavrov made the point yesterday to Rubio that
basically the Russians will not accept the situation
where they have to agree to a ceasefire
prior to negotiations.
The Russian position is the exact opposite.
They want negotiations on a settlement.
And if that's successful, then they will agree
to a ceasefire and in effect, an end
to the war.
And so right now, from a Russian perspective,
the only option on the table for them
is the war option.
They will continue to prosecute the war until
they force the Ukrainians to accept the Russian
positions.
Neutrality, the 4.0 blasts and no NATO,
that kind of thing.
And that's where we're at right now.
The summit is postponed, not canceled.
But right now we are on the war
option.
We're on the war option.
Well, that was what it always was.
They never wanted to ceasefire.
I mean, this report could have been done
two months ago.
It's the same thing.
No ceasefire.
No, we agree on everything.
Then we'll stop.
Yeah.
And I don't blame them for that.
Because it's, you know, the Russians are the
ones that are in that Eastern European bloc
where they know, they understand the personalities of
the Ukrainians, the Georgians and all these allies.
Yeah, all of them.
They know what their personality is like.
And I believe that the Russians think that
the Ukrainians are not trustworthy.
Or the Europeans.
It's really the Europeans.
The Europeans are not trustworthy.
And so, in other words, if they had
a ceasefire, they would start to encroach.
So if we look at ARK, America, Russia,
China, and we look at that possibility, the
news of our deal with Australia starts to
look more like a unified front than an
attack on China.
This could all be total theatre, as far
as I'm concerned.
Here's the Sky News report, and then I
have the actual audio, which include a little
extra bit.
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's time has finally arrived,
sitting down with US President Donald Trump.
After the compliments, it was time for business.
The two leaders signing an 8.5 billion
US dollar deal to invest in critical minerals.
These power everything from mobile phones to night
vision goggles and solar panels.
Gracelyn Baskaran is the Director of Critical Mineral
Security at the Center for Strategic and International
Studies in the US.
She says the deal is world leading.
This is the first major concrete minerals deal
that we have had, not just in this
administration, but in modern history.
And this deal has a couple of things.
We've done a lot of MOUs and agree
to agrees, but what we haven't actually had
is how do we get rubber to hit
the road?
Fortunately, Australia has the depth of the mining
industry, the capital, and the know how to
be that partner for us.
From minerals to nuclear submarines, President Trump says
Australia will get what it pays for.
So what actually was said was a little
bit deeper.
If you listen, it's not just about extraction,
it's about the process.
Australia has had a view for some time,
a bit similar to putting America first.
Our plan is called a future made in
Australia, which is about not just digging things
up and exporting them, but how do we
make sure that we have across the supply
chains with our friends being able to benefit,
seize those opportunities.
So we certainly see part of what this
is about isn't just digging things up.
It's also about processing, including that joint ventures
between Australia and the United States.
Not just digging stuff up, which is what
the Brits have done with them for decades,
just use them as a mine pit, but
they're going to process them and we're going
to buy processed rare earths from them.
That's a little different than.
Well, that's assuming they have the facilities.
Are they doing that now?
Not that I know of.
I thought China had the market cornered for
the refining and processing of these minerals.
Well, let's ask the dumb computer.
And is it something that you can do
over?
Can you set up shop overnight?
I don't think so.
Let's find out.
Error, does Australia have rare earth processing facilities
and capabilities?
Australia's ramping up, but yeah, it's got some
real progress.
Linus has a major plant in Kalgoorlie that's
already cracking and separating rare earths from their
Mount Weld mine, making it one of the
few non-Chinese options globally.
Iluka is building the Eneba refinery north of
Perth, set to open next year for more
processing, even from outside feedstocks.
We've got reserves, but scaling full chains like
magnets and alloys is still early.
Government and allies are pouring money in to
speed it up.
So watch this space.
Watch this space.
Watch this space.
In other words, no.
Well, no.
She said clearly, yes, they have started.
No, they started, but they haven't the timeline
is not unclear.
Well, this is something you can't do overnight.
It takes special skills.
I think that it'd be years and you
can't, you can't have a big lag of
a year.
I don't know that.
I don't know.
How do we have, are we, did we
run out of magnets?
Do we not, do we not have any
magnets at all?
I think magnets, I think it's, well, let's,
let's look at the way we do business
with just in time, everything.
Yes, we must have, we will run out
of magnets because we don't stockpile anything in
this country.
We do everything on a just in time
basis.
It was developed years ago by, especially in
high-tech developed years ago by Hewlett Packard
who became experts at it.
And then everybody got so good at it
that Tim cook over at Apple's is a
genius of logistics where you don't have to
have anything stored in advance.
Yeah, we don't, we don't have it.
That's the way I see it.
You are so knowledgeable.
I'm just saying, this is the obvious weakness.
Well, how about this?
You trust the so-called, I mean, why
do we always talk about supply chain?
Because it's a chain.
How about this?
I predict the, the, the trade deal with
China is going to just, it's going to
go away.
President Trump's going to talk to Xi.
He says, look, we got a good deal
here.
I'm going to screw all those guys.
Eh, give me some of that.
Give me some rare earth.
That would be great.
You know, all of the North sea Nexus
crowd are all loving what Peter Navarro did
at the council on foreign relations, which of
course is a complete North sea Nexus operation.
Totally.
Uh, did you see, did you see his
speech?
He did a speech and they did a
one hour sit down and it was really
like, Hey, to you.
I'd like to thank the council on foreign
relations for this kind invitation.
After all, it's not every day I get
to speak before an audience that has opposed
nearly every policy I've ever helped advance in
the white house.
But let's be honest with each other.
CFR has been uniformly anti-tariff and anti
-Trump and highly skeptical of an America first
foreign policy that in truth is restoring our
trade balance, building our industrial base, strengthening alliances
like NATO keeping.
And as we just saw in the middle
East, negotiating the broader piece and reasserting American
sovereignty on the world stage.
And you saw the speech?
No.
Oh, I thought, I thought you said you
saw the speech.
No, no.
I said that I lost you.
The blacked out for about two seconds.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Okay.
Well, two seconds.
You didn't miss anything.
Here's the second or final clip.
Then came the trans-Pacific partnership.
Forgive me here, Mike.
That was a good one.
TPP.
Remember that Obama's signature legislation at TPP, everybody
trans-Pacific partnership.
It's all going to be good.
CFR sold it as a geopolitical rampart against
a rising China.
Yet the TPP would have surrendered much of
America's manufacturing base, including our crucial auto and
auto parts sectors to Japan, Vietnam, and ironically,
ultimately China itself.
President Trump saw this very clearly and tore
up the TPP on day one.
I was standing right behind him on that
beautiful day.
This is what the council on foreign relations
has never understood.
Weakening our industrial base has never strengthened our
strategic position.
Hold on a second.
Stop.
I think that he doesn't understand.
They totally understand.
Well, I think he's trying to infantilize them.
They are working against the interests.
That's what he's saying.
I know, but he's saying that they don't
understand that they are.
I think they do understand that they are.
I think they do as well.
I think he also knows they do.
I think he is saying this to infantilize
them.
I'm not convinced that that guy is that
on the ball.
Well, I'm not convinced of what you just
said.
I think he's I think he's naive in
that regard.
I just there's other ways of putting it.
And why would you do that?
To tell them to go F themselves.
I don't think that, you know, this is
I don't think he's that kind of guy.
He's he's he seems like a guy who
likes to drink.
He's in the right club for that.
It's 30 seconds.
Listen to the last 30 seconds.
So back it up to the beginning of
that little bit.
The whole piece.
The second part.
Yeah.
Yeah.
OK.
President Trump saw this very clearly and tore
up the TPP on day one.
I was standing right behind him on that
beautiful day.
This is what the Council on Foreign Relations
has never understood.
Weakening our industrial base has never strengthened our
strategic position.
It is only invited aggression.
That's why in Trump world we do not
trade off economic security for national security.
We believe economic security is national security.
Memo to CFR.
You cannot project power if you surrender production.
You cannot deter aggression when your supply chains
run through your opponent's ports.
You can't lead the free world if you
can't make what the free world needs.
I think when you're standing there and saying
memo to you people, here's a memo to
you.
I think you're kind of being a douche
and say, we know what you want.
We know what you're doing and you know
it and we don't like you.
That's the way I took it.
I did totally the opposite of that.
I think he's sincerely thinking that he's giving
them a lecture of value.
Really?
Well, because most people don't see the Council
on Foreign Relations the way you do or
the way I do or the way a
lot of people do and they don't see
themselves that way either because they publish their
roster online.
You can look it up and see who's
on this operation.
A lot of media people.
It's just I think that they're just that
arrogant.
They are, but you're saying Peter Navarro doesn't
know that about them?
I'm pretty sure he doesn't.
I see no evidence to the contrary.
It doesn't really matter because the message was
clear anyway.
I think they got the message.
Memo.
Maybe Trump just wrote it for him and
said, go say this.
That's possible.
It's possible.
Well, anyway, the fact is he's right and
the TPP was a disaster.
Yes, it was horrible.
And the Council on Foreign Relations helped push
it as they would do if they're going
to represent the monarchs of the world.
And then as just a beautiful blow, which
was, I mean, when I heard this story,
I'm like, oh, Dvorak planned this because all
you need is hard hats and a clipboard
and you can do anything you want.
It's always been true, including stealing jewels from
the Louvre.
A French government minister insisted today the security
system at the Louvre was working as it
was supposed to on Sunday, even though burglars
easily made off with one hundred two million
dollars worth of jewels.
The Paris prosecutor says 100 investigators are on
the case and the thieves.
Elizabeth Palmer reports they're still on the loose.
These guys literally had hard hats on and
yellow vests and they moved a furniture moving
elevator right in front of the Louvre, pushed
it up to the window.
We're working here.
Leave us alone.
Yeah, this is.
Well, you know, the funny thing about this,
it's not being reported much.
I think there's a couple of stories is
that the head of security from the Louvre
was just appointed a year ago.
It's a woman that was hired because they
needed to feminize the opera.
They said they wanted to feminize the management
of the Louvre.
She has no experience whatsoever managing anything.
She was an advisor in some security company.
And that's about as far as it got.
She's never done anything like this at all.
That's perfect.
And they're not talking about it at all
because it's a huge humiliation.
And then here's the kicker.
The stuff stolen was not insured.
Oh, I didn't know that part.
But even then, it's like a diamond.
Everyone I know is like, oh, no, lab
grown diamonds are better.
All the kids are buying lab grown diamonds
for for engagement rings.
Nobody wants real diamonds anymore.
Do they still have that value or is
that just some.
I think that's a myth.
I think people want real diamonds.
But just beside the point that the whole,
you know, the little crowns and all the
rest of words are priceless.
French government artifacts, basically.
And they not they didn't insure them.
And this woman didn't know what she was
doing as a security.
And they was basically a French version of
D.I..
So it's a laugh.
It's a joke.
That's what's so cool about it.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
All right, let's talk about the builder, Trump,
the builder.
You have a whole series of clips I
see about the ballroom.
Yeah, yeah.
Trump, the builder.
Everyone's all bent out of shape about the
ballroom.
Now, there have been other.
Restoration.
Yeah, but nothing this severe since 1920.
Well, and also didn't didn't the whole White
House burn down at one point and we
rebuilt it?
Well, that was in 1812.
OK, well, it did happen.
That's all beside the point, because it's what
they I have to say that they have
one little piece of leverage here, which is
it flipped in one of these reports that
came.
These are mostly from NPR where they're all,
you know, in a tizzy.
I think what Trump's doing is great.
And I think people should recognize it as
an improvement.
Let me ask you a question.
It's going to have it's going to look,
you know, like it was part of the
building.
Let me let me ask you a question.
If this were Obama.
Doing this, which is unlikely, but let's say
it was Obama, do you think that the
right of America would not be losing their
crap over it?
If it was Obama.
No, if it was Obama, for one thing,
it wouldn't be a ballroom.
It would be an indoor basketball court.
Yeah.
Touché.
Images of an excavator tearing off the facade
of the east wing of the White House
are going viral this week.
Isn't isn't the term facade?
Isn't that literally mean fake?
It's like a fake front, the facade?
No, in the kind of it does in
slang, but it actually means the front.
Oh, it just means the front.
OK.
I thought the facade was just, oh, it's
a facade.
It's a fake front in front of the
actual building.
The fake part is only when it it
has two meanings.
So, OK, typical American English word.
The demolition marks the groundbreaking for President Trump's
250 million dollar ballroom project.
You probably hear the beautiful sound of construction
to the back.
You hear that sound?
Oh, that's music to my ears.
I love that sound.
But not everyone loves what they're seeing.
Historic preservation groups are expressing concern and there
are questions about whether the White House has
followed proper procedure.
We're joined now by NPR senior White House
correspondent Tamara Keith, who has become our resident
White House renovations correspondent.
We're adding a title to you, Tamara.
All right.
A lot of changes already.
I got to admit, I saw that picture
of the east wing and I was like,
oh, wow.
OK, so it definitely does look dramatic.
And it is.
A White House official not permitted to speak
on the record tells me the east wing
is being brought down, modernized and rebuilt as
part of the ballroom project.
President Trump has wanted to build a ballroom
at the White House for more than a
decade.
But this demolition is taking a lot of
people by surprise because when the project was
announced in July, President Trump downplayed the impacts.
It won't interfere with the current building.
I won't be it'll be near it, but
not touching it and pays total respect to
the existing building, which I'm the biggest fan
of.
But then at a dinner last week for
project donors, Trump pointed toward the east wing
and said this.
Everything out there is coming down and we're
replacing it with one of the most beautiful
ballrooms that you've ever seen.
The seating capacity and the price tag of
this project have increased since this summer, too.
OK, all right.
Well, I thought it was interesting that he
said they were going to touch the building
and they took down the whole site.
I didn't touch the the original iconic middle
piece of the building.
That's still I mean, well, I guess you
could make that argument.
That would be I mean, if you ask
someone, if you ask a kid, draw the
White House, they don't draw the east wing
as a part of it.
Yeah, the east wing is it's pretty far
off.
I mean, it's just so they're tearing apart
the thing so they can create, you know,
a walkway, a walkway from point A to
point B.
You can't do it through a wall.
No, Ken.
So they're taking the wall.
He is just doing this.
There was a historical preservation phase earlier this
fall.
Now they're in the demolition phase.
The National Capital Planning Commission would typically have
a role in approving a project like this.
But the newly appointed chair of that commission,
a top Trump aide named Will Scharf, said
in September the commission doesn't have jurisdiction over
demolition.
Any assertion that this commission should have been
consulted earlier than it has been or than
it will be is simply false and represents
a misunderstanding of this commission's role in that
project.
When we are submitted a plan, we will
review that plan.
So they will need to approve construction, but
they haven't yet.
And the commission is currently closed due to
the government shutdown.
But OK, so the commission is shut down.
The demolition is continuing, though, during the shutdown.
The ballroom is being privately funded.
Trump says he is chipping in and donors
include major corporations.
If you go back a little bit, the
way that was presented was and she says,
but the ballroom is being still being constructed.
And then she changes the topic to it's
being funded privately.
What kind of transition?
What kind of reporting is this?
They haven't yet.
And the commission is currently closed due to
the government shutdown.
But OK, so the commission is shut down.
The demolition is continuing, though, during the shutdown.
The ballroom is being privately funded.
Trump says it was the script like this.
Like, listen, we got to do five minutes
on this.
Just cut.
He left something out of the script.
Cut straight to the money part.
The word is played one more third more
time.
He says, though, he says it, but it's
being still being torn down, though, as it's
because it's had to be just to talk
about that.
It's also goes off on some other topic.
It's also possible that just edited that out
of this pre-produced package.
Like, we got to cut this cut.
Oh, I could be like one of my
edits.
Yeah, correct.
Let's do the government shutdown.
But OK, so the commission is shut down.
The demolition is continuing, though, during the shutdown.
The ballroom is being privately funded.
Trump says he is chipping in.
Well, I guess you could make the case
that the commission who would have to fund
this normally, that they're shut down.
And then she says, yeah, mention of funding
whatsoever.
I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.
It's irritating.
It's NPR.
What do you expect?
It's due to the government shutdown.
But OK, so the commission is shut down.
The demolition is continuing, though, during the shutdown.
The ballroom is being privately funded.
Trump says he is chipping in.
And donors include major corporations with business before
the government.
So will it be this portion of the
ballroom brought to you by Pfizer?
Well, is that is that we're going to
get?
This is beyond my mind, too.
Well, let's finish the clip.
They never discuss this, by the way, but
I was thinking, would they put their names
up in the brick ceiling?
You buy a brick.
You buy a brick house.
You buy a brick.
And this is this brick is Pfizer.
And this week, hey, can we buy a
brick for this thing?
No agenda show sponsors the ballroom.
The brick house, why not the brick house
business before the government?
Google is donating more than 20 million to
the project to settle a civil suit filed
by Trump.
That's hardly a donation.
That is extortion.
They could have called him out on that
for extortion.
If that's true.
If it's true.
Well, of course, you always have to ask,
where does all the fine money go to?
You know, when when Boeing has to pay
100 million dollars or when any company has
to pay, where does it go into the
general fund?
Yeah, but this was a lawsuit specifically.
Trump is a personal lawsuit.
It's not a government lawsuit against Google.
Oh, well, then he's that's OK.
Go back to the beginning of the report
where he says Trump is chipping in.
It's his 20 mil he's chipping in right
there from Google.
Yeah, I think so.
The government Google is donating more than 20
million to the project to settle a civil
suit filed by Trump.
And those are among many reasons.
Watchdogs say this project is a giant ethical
red flag.
How does the White House respond to this?
Well, they put out a fact sheet listing
all of the various White House construction projects
over the years and called the negative reaction
to this one, quote, pearl clutching.
Let's let's let's take one little intermezzo, one
minute of curl, clutching and curl, clutching, pearl,
clutching.
Kareem Jean-Pierre Abdul-Jabbar on The View
promoting her book, talking about this.
So what are your thoughts on the demolition?
So yeah, so the people's house is basically
being sold to the higher spitter.
No, it is corruption at its core.
And I heard someone say this when I
was backstage.
It could not be.
There's no greater metaphor right now than than
what's happening right now in this country.
Then watching Donald Trump take a wrecking ball
to the White House.
Yeah, wrecking ball.
When I saw the image yesterday, I was
like, this is not real.
But why don't they let him get away
with it?
He has all of these people who just
let him get away with whatever he wants
to do.
That's that's what he's been doing for the
last nine, 10 months.
Like the powers that are in the D
.C. are not standing up.
They're acting as if they're powerless, which is
part of the book independence.
No, you all have power.
Yeah, you all have power.
Do something with it.
This Kareem Jean-Pierre is getting on my
nerves.
She's out everywhere with her new long hair.
Yeah, the long hair, long straight hair.
Cherry curl.
He's got something in there.
Hey, boomer.
Yeah, all right.
It's probably a wig.
It probably is.
So I was thinking, you know, they did
miss an opportunity here.
I'm surprised Trump did that or didn't at
least give it to somebody to do, which
is they're they're tearing down the wall and
they're bulldozers and wrecking balls in the rain.
Why don't they sell chunks of it to
the public as souvenirs?
Ten bucks, you have a piece of the
White House.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a chunk of splinter, a big chunk
of wood, anything.
It just seems like a missed opportunity.
Yeah, I guess.
Anyway, this I think is the last clip.
Several historic preservation groups have expressed concerns about
the renovations underway at the White House, including
the Society of Architectural Historians.
The chair of the group's Heritage Conservation Committee
is on the line with us now.
Priya Jain is an associate professor at Texas
A&M University.
Good morning.
Thanks so much for joining us.
Thanks for having me.
Your group issued a lengthy statement about your
concerns.
Can you briefly tell us the main ones?
Sure.
When the news of the White House ballroom
addition first emerged in July, we started hearing
from our membership about concerns about the scale
and the visual impact of the project to
the existing and highly significant historic building.
So we wrote a statement that called for
more transparency on what exactly was going to
be demolished because there was some conflicting information
regarding whether the East Wing would be demolished
or simply added onto.
So we asked for a more comprehensive review
of both the demolition and the new construction.
We also asked for impacts to the White
House grounds because the new building does extend
significantly into the grounds.
And finally, we asked them to consider the
broader impacts this project is going to have
on preservation projects across the country being such
a visible and highly significant structure.
So you mentioned a number of concerns about
best practices being followed, for example.
You note in the statement that there have
been a lot of advances in historic preservation,
restoring objects, restoring...
Yeah, like all the statues they pulled down
during BLM.
That was very historic.
It was really historic restoration of historical things
in the D.C. Sort of architectural integrity
and so forth.
And you also mentioned the landscape in the
grounds.
The question I have for you is, is
it a legal requirement to follow these kinds
of processes for a building as important as
the White House?
Or is it more of a custom or
a courtesy or a sort of a, I
don't know, like a professional standard?
Do you see what I'm asking?
Sure.
The fact that everyone's making such a big
deal of this is what's interesting.
This is just an extension of no kings.
You know what I mean?
It's just like, whatever.
Just be mad at Trump.
Be mad at Trump.
He's doing something.
Be mad at him.
Yeah, I find the whole thing to be
fascinating with this.
And it is pearl clutching.
Yeah.
I think they nailed it.
You know, the press secretary girl.
You have a...
Yeah, I think that was the last clip.
No, no, you have a fourth clip here.
You have a fourth clip.
Oh, I thought that was the fourth clip.
Okay, well, the fourth clip, by the way,
it goes on beyond this.
And she comes to this woman, this Indian
woman who was, you know, talking about the
ballroom.
She's in this organization.
Who cares what they think?
They have no...
There's no jurisdiction of some club over anything
that the president does at the White House.
And it just...
And insofar as it being the people's house,
he's got no right to do these things.
If it's the people's house, can I go
spend the night there?
You can get a tour.
You can get a tour.
I think I was promised a night in
the Lincoln bedroom.
I'm completely miffed about the whole thing.
What happened?
Well, don't you remember?
You were the first guy to say Trump
will be president in 2015.
Yep.
Yeah.
You're going to get an invitation.
No invitation for the inauguration.
No, no invitation for the Lincoln.
No, you get nothing.
I look bad.
My wife is like, you got no pole.
By the way, she's mad at me now.
She says, you're making fun of our guests.
Did I make fun of our guests about
the MTV thing?
Not really.
I didn't think so either.
No, I made fun of MTV.
Well, you kind of, I think, mocked.
Oh, whose side are you on?
The Xer by doing one of your voices.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Because I never do voices.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
You're in trouble.
You're going to be sleeping in the dog
house.
Probably.
Yes.
Phoebe will be in the bed.
Oh, boy.
Yes.
Now, typically when a federal or a federally
assisted project is done and it has the
potential to affect any historic building, a process
known as Section 106 from the National Historic
Preservation Act of 1966 kicks in.
Now, this project, because the White House, the
U.S. Capitol and the Supreme Court are
exempt from formally initiating that process.
However, this does not mean that in prior
projects that have included minor things on the
White House grounds like the tennis pavilion or
perimeter fencing or other changes that they have
not gone through internal advice and oversight on
the project, as well as approvals from the
National Capitol Planning Commission, as well as from
the U.S. Fine Arts Commission.
So there are vehicles, even though the exemption
from 106 exists, there are wider executive orders,
other procedures that need to be followed to
make sure that the project will not negatively
impact.
So you just heard the administration's response that
there have been a lot of construction projects
at the White House and that these critiques
are just pearl clutching.
What's your reaction to that?
Yeah, I mean, it is true.
The White House is a living building.
It has undergone various and it should undergo
these various changes.
However, I do want to point out that
in the list that was issued yesterday, if
you look at it closely, all the changes
after 1942 have been limited to the interior
and the ones on the exterior either involve
simple restoration or minor site additions like the
tennis court and the pavilion, which are limited
by their scope, size and visibility to have
any negative impact on the historic building.
This is really the biggest addition since the
1940s, and it's large in scope and size.
OK, now I have to play some counterbalance
to this because this was this lady was
boring.
I'm not going to argue that.
No, we need some outrage.
But at least she had a nice accent.
No, I didn't like that either.
I need some outrage.
Let's go to Anderson Cooper.
Good evening.
Tonight we have a front row seat to
history, or more accurately, the destruction of it.
See, this is what I'm talking about.
This is what we want to hear.
We want to hear about it.
This is good.
This is good stuff.
The east wing of the White House is
being torn down, torn down, modernized, not renovated,
torn down the whole thing.
And we've been watching it happen all day
long.
Oh, no.
See, this is pearl clutching and Anderson Cooper
has pearls.
He owns them.
I guess.
Oh, you know it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is hard early necklace or not to
be taken aback by what we are witnessing.
If you think, well, that can't possibly be
happen happening.
It is.
And the president confirmed that the entire east
wing is being demolished late today.
We determined that after really a tremendous amount
of study with some of the best architects
in the world, we determined that really knocking
it down, trying to use a little section.
You know, the east wing was not much.
It was not much left from the original.
It was a very small building.
And rather than allowing that to hurt a
very expensive, beautiful building that, frankly, they've been
after for years.
Well, holding up renders and floor plans, which
he'd brought with him and with the secretary
general of NATO by his side, the president
added, quote, This was something they've wanted for
at least 150 years.
He did not say who they were or
why this was 150 years in the making.
But this is what he's building on.
What was the home of the offices of
the first lady and the spot where millions
of people from around the country in the
world have begun their White House tours as
former Republican strategists and White House aide Rick
Wilson?
Admittedly, no fan of the president put it
today.
The wing became a geography of grace notes,
the stewards of tone and memory.
Well, tone and memory have been trumped by
gaudy gold and the construction of the 9000
square foot megastructure, nearly twice the size of
the central mansion of the White House.
It'll dwarf the size of the main part
of the White House, which it is right
next to.
Oh, coming from a Vanderbilt, a Vanderbilt.
That's a good point.
Build some of the biggest, gaudiest buildings in
the entire United States.
A Vanderbilt.
Let's go to Inside Edition.
There is more outrage today.
Full scale of east wing demolition is revealed.
Most of the building appears to have been
ripped away.
The east wing, as we knew it, is
gone.
The construction company carrying out the demolition Aceco
is also facing backlash.
Their Google listing is being flooded with negative
one star reviews.
And today, White House.
Oh, no, my Google reviews.
Historians are appealing to President Trump to stop.
We are deeply concerned that the height of
the proposed new construction will overwhelm the White
House and may also permanently disrupt the carefully
balanced classical design of the White House with
its two smaller and lower wings, declares the
National Trust for Historic Preservation.
The White House is fifty five thousand square
feet and the new ballroom is almost twice
that size.
This animation shows how the new structure will
dwarf the White House.
When you go to the White House, your
attention is immediately going to be drawn and
distracted away from the White House to this
gigantic new ballroom.
It's going to totally overshadow everything.
OK, and then we should finally go to
CNN.
Oops.
Oops, oops, oops.
Here we go.
As the historic east wing of the White
House is ripped down, outrage is piling up
with preservationists saying they are deeply concerned new
construction will overwhelm the White House itself.
And former first lady Hillary Clinton posting here
we got his house.
It's your house and he's destroying it.
And the rich coming from a woman who
stole all of the plates and the cutlery
when she left my house, my house, please.
Well, that's what she thought was her house.
Yes.
Destroying the reader response has been overwhelming.
I mean, people are emailing me every five
minutes.
There's something about these images that have really
upset people.
The White House communications director is dismissing the
worries as pearl clutching by losers.
And President Trump has not even blinked.
You probably hear the beautiful sound of construction
to the back.
You hear that sound?
Oh, that's music to my ears.
I love that sound.
Other people don't like it.
I think when I hear that sound, it
reminds me of money.
After planting massive flagpoles outside the White House,
slathering the Oval Office in gold trim and
paving over the legendary Rose Garden, Trump is
relocating the office of the first lady and
more and demolishing the space to fulfill his
longtime dream of installing a vast ballroom, bigger
than a football field, able to hold about
a thousand people in an architectural rendering.
The $200 million add-on looks like something
from the French Palace of Versailles.
Or, as many critics have noted, a salute
to Trump's Florida home, Mar-a-Lago.
Trump's allies seem fine with that.
And on Capitol Hill, they echo the president's
claim that the cost will be covered by
private donors.
It's not even taxpayer money.
It's going to be a permanent renovation that'll
enhance the White House for all future presidents.
Yes.
Oh, well, anyway.
So it's just the amount of outrage, and
it's a little baffling.
I think it's just more, please hate Trump.
Just hate him.
I don't see any other reason for it.
Please hate him.
I want to take you into the snaps.
By the way, it's embarrassing they don't have
a big ballroom anyway.
Yeah.
Because they do these giant events, and they
just put up these cheesy tents.
I mean, you've been to the White House.
You've done the tour of the White House,
haven't you?
No, I never have.
Oh, I did.
Uncle Don took me on a tour, and
I got to go into the Oval Office.
And you know what I thought?
This thing is small, is what I thought.
Yeah, well, they have a copy of the
Oval Office in most of the presidential libraries.
In Biden's house, in his basement, they got
a copy of it.
Yeah, it was a little smaller.
Everything's smaller, though.
It's a little dinkier.
No, but I remember.
It felt small.
It didn't feel grandiose.
No, the Oval Office is small.
Yeah.
So I want to get you into the
snap stuff with two clips, and then you
can take it from there.
And it started with kind of an interest.
I hadn't actually considered this angle.
Jon Stewart brought it up with Bernie Sanders,
and Bernie Sanders, of course, went, you know,
to where he always goes.
He's worried about the oligarchs.
Well, no.
But the one thing that we know is
a no-no, is like the third rail
in Washington, D.C., is the insurance companies,
because they're not really insurance companies.
They're banks.
And there's a lot of money in the
banks, and a lot of money can do
a lot to unseat you, to, you know,
fund primaries against you.
They're always, always, always worried about the insurance
companies.
And Jon Stewart brought this up in regard
to the shutdown.
And Bernie Sanders, of course, took it in
a different direction, because he just wants Medicare
for all.
Yeah, all right, fine.
But I thought it was a good moment
from Jon Stewart.
Democrats find themselves in a place is we've
shut down the government to protect subsidies for
an insurance marketplace that funnels $800 billion a
year into the pockets of all these insurance
companies.
Have Democrats boxed themselves into a corner, fighting
for a system that ultimately, to get the
thing that you want, that I think the
American people want, they're going to have to
abandon.
Yes.
Look, here's where we are right now, and
I think it's not been made as clear
as it should.
If Trump gets away with what he wants,
we are looking at 15 million people losing
their health insurance.
And according to studies, Jon, 50,000 low
-income and working-class people dying every year
unnecessarily.
Based on lack of accessibility to health.
Right.
You're low-income, you're working-class, you don't
have any health, you have a chronic ill,
you die.
We're all gonna die.
That's what they're saying.
On top of that, all over the country
- To be very clear, you do die
anyway, just- You die anyway, but you
don't have to die, you don't have to
die- That way.
Just because you can't get to a doctor.
That is disgusting.
Right.
All right?
And then on top of that, because of
the cuts to the ACA, you're looking at
some 20 plus million people seeing a doubling
of their premiums at a time when they
can't even afford health care right now.
Right.
All right?
So your point is, is this a good
system?
No.
Is this a good system to defend-
To defend today, yes.
Political capital, okay.
Obviously, obviously.
Right.
It is a system designed to make huge
profits to the insurance companies and the drug
companies.
Right.
Period.
We have got to move to a Medicare
for all single-payer program.
Absolutely.
Okay.
So the two things, one, we need to
return to the actual case at hand, which
this is not health care.
This is health care insurance, which sucks in
America.
It does.
And this, and Stuart's right.
This is a subsidy to the insurance companies
who are saying, well, if we don't get
our subsidy, we're going to double the cost
of your premium, which just so that we
get the same numbers on the street.
That's a valid point.
And it's being lost in this shuffle of
nonsense between parties in the DC.
But there are other options.
In fact, there is what they call the
nuclear option to get out of this.
Democrats rejected a 12th stopgap funding bill by
Republicans to end the government shutdown, now stretching
into its 23rd day.
Pennsylvania Democratic Senator John Fetterman broke ranks and
voted to reopen the government.
He says he supports Republicans using the so
-called nuclear option to override the Senate filibuster
and only require a simple majority to pass
the bill.
I am now fighting to opening because of
the two million Pennsylvanians that are on SNAP
and those funds are running out.
Two million people in Pennsylvania depend on this
to feed themselves and their family.
SNAP benefits expire in one week if a
deal is not reached.
Democrats want to negotiate a compromise before reopening
the government.
Republicans want to reopen the government first and
then negotiate specifics.
The nuclear option, I forgot that was always
possible.
Get rid of it.
They don't like doing it.
Well, no, of course not.
Of course not, because then it can be
used against them.
Of course.
But isn't that what democracy looks like, John?
Yeah, it's not a democracy.
We have to fight against it.
Yeah, but that is an option.
And one of our guests last night, he
works for DOD.
Give us his voice.
His voice.
Yeah, you're going to ridicule him.
So you know, no, no, no.
This was a very good guy.
He was a veteran.
The other guy wasn't.
They were all good.
They were great.
I love our guy.
He's trying to make it worse.
You are just the worst person.
Here brings me to an email.
Hi, Adam, says Holly.
When the first letter came in about you
being mean to John, I had some thoughts
about how you were chastised.
Then you shared the second letter stating the
complete opposite.
I think both are extreme and one-sided.
I personally like the back and forth banter
between you and John.
If you give John a hard time, I
don't feel bad for him because I know
he'll dish it right back out at some
point.
That is what makes your show so fun.
Women don't typically do this with friends, so
they don't understand this when men and how
they do this.
Just so you know, I had to wait
until I finished my gardening project to write
this because there was still at least another
hour of the show.
Had this been video, I wouldn't have been
productive today and probably would have gotten a
nasty gram from the HOA.
So there you go.
And that's exactly right.
Men do this more than women.
But after that, we go drink a beer
and we have some hot dogs and we're
fine.
Women hold on to it forever.
I forgot what actress it was that was,
Cheryl Ladd.
I think it was her.
Maybe it wasn't her, but it was one
of that level, kind of a high B
list, low A.
She was talking about, she picked up the
idea of playing golf a lot.
And so she ended up with a lot,
you know, when you play golf as a
woman, you're going to have most of the
foursomes will be three men and a woman.
And she made this comment.
She says, you know, I didn't realize until
I started hanging out with men like this,
how mean they are to each other.
Yeah.
But we also, we also.
But it's mostly, you know, giving each other
crap about a nice shot.
Yeah.
Yes.
It's just like that.
It's all in the tone.
Yeah.
It's a lot of tone.
It's like, oh, wow.
I see you've been at the driving range
a lot recently.
Yeah.
A hundred yard drive.
That's a beauty.
All 25 yards of it.
Yeah, exactly.
But we also build each other up.
Hey boss, how you doing?
Hey, big man.
Yeah.
We do that too.
Instead of yo bitch.
Actually the reference to the a hundred yard
drive would not be what you just said.
Well, not a golfer.
Yeah, obviously.
Cause a good drive is 250 to 310.
So if you did a hundred and you
were.
All right.
So here, here you are like calling me
out on golf ball, golf ball.
Yeah.
So I'm calling it from now on.
I understand when playing around a golf ball,
that's exactly the way it should be.
Possible, possible a show title golf ball, although
people only, if it's one word, I don't
think it works as two words.
All right.
So, so the snap thing.
And so let me just stay with, so
our guests, he's a, he had, he actually
got wounded in, I think Iraq.
He now works for D and this is
an, a new acquaintance.
I like this guy a lot.
He's like, he was actually born and raised
in Fredericksburg.
He's a young guy, which means forties.
So he still works for DOD, but he's
working on all the new stuff.
And I just didn't have the opportunity to
kind of like draw it out of him,
but, and I want to be fair.
I want him to know that this is
going to be on the show.
But it's, he's, he says we have some
amazing stuff coming down the pipeline, but he's
right now, he's basically didn't get a paycheck.
He says it's, and I said, well, what
does he do for DOD that he would
know about all this stuff?
He's in the new advanced weapons procurement division.
And what's he doing in Fredericksburg?
Doesn't he have to be in DC for
that job?
All good questions.
I don't have an answer to.
The only thing I did get out of
him is that the DOD guys love Hagseth.
They love Hagseth.
They thought it was great that he pulled
everybody in.
This is not a well-known fact.
No, that he's had, everyone loves that.
He pulled in all those fat gutted generals
from everywhere and gave them crap.
I can see people liking that.
Of course, this guy's lean, mean fighting machine.
He says we love being called the department
of war.
We love it.
We want it.
We love getting, we were weak.
He says we were for 20 years, we
were just weak and we all felt it
and we all hated it.
He's generalizing, of course.
And then I'm like, so you're working on
the golden dome?
And he's like, no, no, much cooler.
So hopefully I'll see him again soon and
I'll get some details out of him.
This could be a new source, could be
a new Fredericksburg source for the show.
I just, as long as he's not just
some guy who's full of it.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
He said, hey, check me out, all my
metal, put a magnet on me, it'll stick.
So the snap thing comes around with all
these people coming online and making these short
comments.
And it's not just black people.
It's black, it's Chinese, it's whites.
And I have a bunch of...
Whites?
Whites?
Yeah, in fact, we end up with the
white, the finale of this series of clips
is this white trash female.
Oh, nice.
White trash dudes.
Okay, so let's just set the stage here
for a second, because what is happening, and
it's kind of weird because the states, they,
if I understand it correctly, the states actually
provide the supplemental nutrition, what is it, SNAP?
Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
Yes, thank you.
Which used to be called food stamps.
It averages about $140 a month, I think,
which can mean a lot of money to
people.
Oh, it can be per person.
Per person, okay.
And it can be a lot more than
that.
It could mean a lot of money.
There's some clips in here where some women
are bragging about getting $4,000 a month.
But the whole point...
I don't have a lot of these, I
mean, there's hundreds and hundreds of clips.
I'm still trying to get a handle on
it, because I think a lot of people
don't understand that this is part of the
cuts that the Trump, the one big beautiful
bill did is, okay, if you want to
still be on SNAP and you can work
or you can volunteer, you need to do
that.
So it's not a unilateral, we're cutting your
benefits.
Like, hey, if you can work 20 hours
a week or you can volunteer 20 hours
a week, and a lot of this is
fraud, of course, and the states aren't checking
this fraud properly, which is why there's a
lot talk about where it's really going, is
it going to illegal aliens, etc.
But it seems a lot of the people
complaining actually could qualify, but now the states
are running out of money because of the
shutdown, or at least the money that should
be appropriated towards SNAP.
I'm sure the states aren't running out of
money, but is this being used as like,
oh, well, this is it.
This is going to be, we're going to
have to cut your money.
Is that a correct assessment?
Generally, I say, yes, more or less.
They could do something else.
They could cut something else.
And there's other ways of getting food.
In most communities, there's food banks.
From garbage cans.
Garbage cans.
No, well, actually, you might be surprised.
Wow.
Said the guy from Berkeley.
But generally speaking, there's food banks.
There's other ways.
Almost every little community has them.
Eat cake, you peasants.
There's other ways you can get food.
Get it from the garbage can.
Well, the reason I'm saying that, you're making
it sound bullshit, but I'm not, you know,
there is, you can get food, reasonably quality
boxes of it, is that it's not like
you're going to starve to death necessarily, unless
you're like, you know, eat a lot.
But that's beside the point.
Most of the people that are on these
clips are threatening the system because they've become
so dependent.
The problem is, the way I see it,
is the dependency on this to the tune
of, what do you think, what does it
think the food stamp program cost a taxpayer
a year?
60 billion.
Yeah.
I think it was a newsletter.
Yeah, I read the newsletter.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm glad you did.
So, 60 billion dollars of assistance.
And it began in the, just as a
little background, it began, the first round of
food stamps or assistance was during the depression,
when the farmers were, they had an excess
product and they couldn't get rid of it,
so the government decided to buy it and
distribute it in the same, in a form
of, it was a food stamp-like system.
Then it disappeared after World War II, came
back in the 60s with Lyndon Johnson, mostly.
He's the one who really codified and made
it a big deal.
Which is a great way to enslave people
to the state, basically.
Yeah, that's what was the idea.
Johnson was great at that.
And so, we have people now threatening everybody,
saying, and the main thing that I noticed,
I don't have a, these are all short,
super short clips, but this is classic.
This is a black old lady, cousin, who,
by the way, these are all not safe
for, all of them, are not safe for
young ears.
So, if you people want to, you know,
skip past this, this would probably be the
time to do it.
Here's an old black woman, cousin.
I'm trying to make sure I heard this
right.
Trump said all the groceries is free now.
That's what I heard.
Well, you take from us, we take from
you.
Thank you.
We're going to be running out the motherfucking
store.
I've seen a couple of these.
So, she's saying she's just going to steal.
There's a lot of counter clips to these,
by the way, also by black people and
others saying that, yeah, you're a genius for
announcing this on the internet.
Yeah.
This is a woman, I believe a white
chick with a big giant nose ring.
This is the nose ring weirdo and her
complaints.
Just one of the 42 million Americans who
won't be getting their snap benefits in November.
Going to be a fucking awesome Thanksgiving as
a single mother with a toddler.
I have so much to say about it,
but there's not really much else to say
other than fuck.
So, how do you qualify for snap benefits?
You have to prove that you have what
your income is.
You just fill out some forms.
It's not that hard.
Okay.
Your low income is pretty easy, actually.
Mm-hmm.
And that last one with her Berkley hum,
toddler, right of toddler.
So, okay, now we have a very profane
black woman.
Donald motherfucking orange man, J Trump.
I'm going to tell you just like this.
What the fuck you mean?
Who ain't getting their goddamn food stamps in
goddamn November?
Because I'm getting my goddamn shit.
I don't know about the rest of you
motherfuckers, but I'm getting my shit because I'm
going to tell you just like this on
Jesus Lamar, motherfucking Christ.
I will be at motherfucking Walmart with my
steel toes on and my motherfucking helmet.
And I dare a bitch try to stop
me from walking out that motherfucking store with
my groceries.
Baby, I'm 250 pounds solid.
Baby, you want to see a human motherfucking
bulldozer, baby?
Because that's what the fuck I'm going to
turn into.
If you think you're going to stop me
from leaving out that goddamn store with my
motherfucking monthly groceries that I get every goddamn
month, I ain't bothering no goddamn body, okay?
Why the fuck is y'all bothering me
and my goddamn food?
I'm just so tired of his big backbone
head cradle cap having ass, shaped like a
motherfucking penguin, any motherfucking way on vinyl, motherfucking
walrus looking ass.
I'm sick of him.
Like, it's going to be an episode of
goddamn Snap.
If y'all turn them goddamn Snap benefits
off, I can tell you that.
All right.
Now, if I was an end of show
mixer, I'd put that thing right into the
AI and make a massive hit.
She's perfect for it.
That's close to Obama phone lady.
She's up there.
Yeah, she's pretty close to the Obama phone
lady.
Now we have a white trash dude.
Hold on.
Let's listen to the Obama phone lady for
a second.
Obama phone.
Here she is, I think.
This is her.
Everybody in Cleveland, low minority, got Obama phone.
Keep Obama in president, you know?
He gave us a phone.
That's the same lady.
It's the same one.
So she wants to go steal it from
Walmart because.
By the way, Walmart is the target for
all these people with rare exceptions.
So I don't recommend anyone going to Walmart
on the first of November or at least
through that month.
This thing is going to end before the
first of November.
It's going to end.
We'll see.
Yeah, I think so.
Now we have the white trash dude complaining.
Everybody going around saying that motherfuckers ain't getting
food stamps next.
Is it a white guy?
Yeah, a white guy.
Nice.
Everybody going around saying that motherfuckers ain't getting
food stamps next.
Mind you, bitch, I'm on food stamps.
Let me tell you this right now.
Donald J.
Trump, I don't know what the fuck you
got going on in that fucking house of
yours, but bitch, you better fix it just
because your ass going through some shit.
Don't mean you got to take it out
on everybody else, bitch.
Fix this shit right now.
Let me not get my food stamps.
Let me not get my food stamps.
I'm going back to stealing.
I don't care.
If you leave your car unlocked in the
middle of the night, lock it, bitch, because
if I don't get no food stamps, best
believe me and mine's going to eat regardless.
Yeah, and what's so sad is that these
people are very uninformed about what's happening.
They are being taught by the media with
stuff like the wrecking ball to the White
House that it's all Donald Trump.
It's just they don't even know.
And it's just they don't know anything.
They don't know that.
I feel bad for them.
I don't understand how it works.
Yeah.
And so now we have the white trash
female who is the is the last clip
is the finale.
Oh, the finale.
Gotcha.
If they take away snap benefits in the
November and December, y'all better be fucking
stealing from Walmart's big corporations, Whole Foods, stay
away from the small stores and family owned
stuff.
If like especially people in Albuquerque, like companies
are going to be really fucking mad if
they lose money, especially if everyone who lost
food stamps just starts fucking stealing.
Sounds a little bit like Mimi.
I'll be honest.
Just just a tad.
I know it's not her.
Obviously, that little bit of that somehow the
accent you would.
Well, I didn't get that.
That's for sure.
But so that was, you know, she's just
telling everyone to steal.
Yeah.
So let's stay away from the little guy.
Yeah, that was that's that's kind of good
to steal from the little Korean store guy.
So that's the kind of situation that was
that's evolved because of, you know, and it's
all on tick tock, you know, and reels
and these people complaining and moaning and groaning.
And it's like, why don't you you're going
to steal?
Let's put.
So let's say I'm going to steal.
So what I'm going to do is I'm
going to make a tick tock video so
I can have a picture of me saying
I'm going to steal.
This is smart.
Yeah, I'm a genius.
So you wonder why these people are, you
know, can't can't get ahead.
There's also people that just it's just there's
hundreds of these things.
I don't know what to make of it.
Well, speaking of food, let's go to the
war on beef, which is heating up.
And this is pretty much exactly what Texas
Slim predicted four or five years ago and
has been talking about nonstop.
Now to the outrage over beef prices, American
ranchers pushing back against President Trump's plan to
import beef from Argentina.
Elizabeth Schultz is here with those details.
Good morning, Elizabeth.
Hey, good morning, Robin.
American cattle ranchers and top Republican lawmakers are
now slamming President Trump's pledge to buy more
beef from Argentina.
The president says that this would increase the
supply of beef in the U.S. and
help bring down grocery prices.
Ground beef prices are up 13 percent in
the past year.
Steak is up almost 17 percent.
The president says that this move would also
support his ally, Argentinian President Javier Millet, ahead
of midterm elections there on Sunday.
The U.S. has already committed 20 billion
in taxpayer dollars to help Argentina's economy at
a time when, of course, hundreds of thousands
of federal workers aren't getting paid here during
the shutdown.
The head of the National Cattlemen's Beef Association
says we cannot stand behind the president while
he undercuts the future of family farmers and
ranchers.
And farmers who we've been speaking with are
frustrated that the Trump administration hasn't yet delivered
an aid package for them while it is
moving forward with this extraordinary bailout of Argentina,
guys.
All right.
So there's a lot of different things going
on here.
And the first thing that we need to
understand is that the typical American rancher is
really at this point just a commodity cowboy
and just sells all his stuff to one
of the big three producers.
I'd say the biggest one, JBS, who is
a Brazilian owned company.
And they are completely linked to the cartels.
They've got all kinds of weird products coming
in from all over South America, not necessarily
Argentina.
The jacket full of hormones on the way
up.
It's and then they just label it as
American beef.
And a good part of American beef is
not American beef at all.
Not in the supermarket.
Exactly.
And so what here's here's a small tip
of the day.
If you if you go to beef map
dot com and you find a rancher near
you, you can go to that rancher, go
right to his door, say, hi, I heard
about you on the No Agenda show.
Texas Slim sent me.
I'd like I'd like to shake your hand
and buy your beef.
You will find that it is significantly cheaper
than in the grocery store.
And it's really good American beef.
And there's not a lot.
It's the minority of ranchers.
But there's a real movement for local ranchers
to feed their local community.
This whole thing.
And by the way, President Trump's not wrong
in my mind.
It's like, yeah, you know, you an Argentinian
brief is not necessarily bad beef.
In fact, they know they know a lot
of stuff.
Go to Los Gauchos.
Isn't that the big chain of Argentinian beef
outlet?
It's tasty.
But what we're being served in the supermarket
is crap from JBS.
And you got to stay away from that.
And I checked with Tina this morning.
I said because she orders from K&C
Cattle.
We get ours.
They're in Luling, south east of Texas, of
Austin.
And I say, you know, have the prices
gone up?
She said maybe 4 percent, which would kind
of be in line with inflation, but certainly
not any more than that.
And it's cheaper than it.
H.E.B. are, you know, kind of
that's our supermarket here in Fredericksburg, which is
all over Texas.
You know, they're OK, but I won't eat
their beef and it's too expensive.
So, you know, instead of and I'm not
sure the president knows exactly what he's doing
here.
And yeah, it's going to bring down the
price in the supermarket, but it's just going
to be more crap that that that people
are still paying way too much for.
And this has been going on for a
long time.
So just go to beefmaps.com and find
your local ranch, local rancher and drive up
and you can buy a lot of beef
or relatively little amount.
And they might even take your snap.
I don't know.
One of the things you when you buy
from a local provider.
Is that they will you can buy like
a half a steer or a full it
depends by different.
Usually a quarter is the smallest.
And they will send it over to the
butcher.
Who will then process?
Well, there's local processing.
There's a whole revolution in local process.
Well, I don't know what kind of revolution
it is because it's been going on here
for decades.
But there are these butchers that process local
beef and once the beef gets there, they'll
ask you what you want and what kind
of cuts you want.
And the butcher and you say, well, I
like to I like to get some there's
a fillet and say you have a half
an animal.
So there'll be a flank steak and a
fillet.
You can have them cut up or you
can have the whole fillet put aside or
you can have it done.
If some butchers can do French cuts, which
are totally different.
Some people can do muscle cuts, which are
totally different, or they can just give you
this T-bone.
The typical butcher will give you, you know,
X number of T-bones.
How thick do you want them?
They'll tell you to say, I want them
this thick or that thick, and they'll do
that.
And the thing will be processed in no
time and you go pick it up.
It's all wrapped and sometimes frozen, probably frozen
in most cases.
And then you do all the chunks and
pieces and everything left over is ground up
and you get lots of ground beef, which
is 10 times better than the stuff you
buy anywhere else.
Well, listen to this.
So for our...
In other words, what I'm saying is I've
done this a number of times.
Yes, of course you have.
With sheep and pigs and...
Of course you have.
Of course.
And the butchers are out, there's tons of
them and they like it.
And you tell them exactly what you want
to get.
It's, you know, you have to have a
freezer.
So that's the one...
You got to have a freezer and it's
worth the investment.
We have another outfit here that when we
get our brisket from and our chuck roast,
we just like it from them from Schneider
Ranch.
They're, I don't know, 30 minutes, 25, 30
minutes down the road.
You go on their website, you order it.
The dude comes to our house within an
hour.
Hey, how are you doing?
He's got his Yeti coolers under his arm.
Hey Phoebe, stop barking at me.
And he brings it right to her, right
to her.
It takes a check.
It's like, ah, just give me cash, check,
whatever you got.
It's fantastic.
It's fantastic.
And it's really the way to go.
And if you get ground beef, which is
really inexpensive, you can eat ground beef for
weeks.
You can make meatballs, meatloaf, hamburger.
You can be very creative with ground beef.
Just another tip for your Noah Jenna show.
And while I'm on the topic, I bought
for our gathering last night, I bought a
couple bottles.
I found it at my local HEB bottom
shelf in the Cabernet Sauvignon aisle.
Your tip of the wine, your Robert Mavado
bourbon barrel.
Yes.
Yes.
$11, $11 and 25 cents per bottle, which
is very affordable as wine goes.
And, um, the international arms dealers here, he
said, oh yeah, I heard about this stuff.
I said, this is actually, how did he
explain?
He says, this is from, um, some of
the really high end guys and they made
too much and they sold it to these
guys and they put it in this bottle
and they send that to just dump in
their stuff basically.
Is that correct?
No.
Anyway, it was, it was universally liked.
It's dynamite.
It's a great tip of the day, particularly
for a gathering.
You know, I'm going to, the bottle looks
like it's a $30 bottle of wine.
Look what I got for you people.
Look at me.
Have you seen my door that goes up?
Yeah.
I bought this wine for you.
It's dynamite.
Everyone.
It's, it's a universally accepted.
Very good.
It was a good tip.
Good tip of the day.
So, uh, okay, well we got our beef
discussion out of the way.
So I guess that's good for people.
They should know that, but you can also
go, by the way, if you want to
have some, some fun, you can go to
the County fairs around the country.
Uh, and you can, they have auctions of
the animals usually.
And then the auction, you can buy the
animal, uh, from some poor four H kid
who cries a lot after you buy their
animal to kill it.
Uh, but you know, you had to put
up with that.
They get used to it.
And, um, you're the worst, the animal gets
shipped right to one of the butchers.
There's usually a kind of contracted butchers and
they get the animal and you get, you
can, again, as you go through the process
of telling them what you want.
Well, what I want topic of food.
No, I was, I was going to thank
you for your courage.
I was, that's what I want.
Oh, you were?
Yeah.
You know, we could do the cookie here.
The what?
No, no, thank you.
Don't want you to thank me for my
courage and I'll, I'll move this to the
second half of the show.
Thank you for your courage and say in
the morning to the man who put the
sea in the pearl clutching.
Hello to my friend on the other end,
the one, the only Mr. John.
Yeah, well, good morning.
You wish I'm creating a relationship to see
Bruce McGruffie in the air subs in the
water and the names of nights out there
in the morning to the trolls, the troll
room.
Hold on a second.
Let me count you here for a second.
1,597 peak trollage in the troll room.
I had a whole exchange with the Dana
Brunetti this morning.
Oh yeah.
What'd he have to say?
Well, first he said that you had blocked
him and he sent me, he sent me
a screenshot of him trying to call you
and it said number busy.
I'm like, don't you know that John had
just talks on the phone and he doesn't
have call waiting and it's just busy when
he's talking to Mimi.
And then he was going off on you
guys are wrong.
You should be doing video because you know,
more video is more eyeballs is more, is
more pain.
He already gave me that lecture.
Yeah.
And I said, we don't care about eyeballs.
We do value for value.
It's in with, we don't want to be
lost to Silicon Valley platforms like your industry,
Hollywood boy.
That's what I told him.
You did.
Yeah, of course.
Hollywood boy.
Uh, if I didn't, it's, I'm going to
do it next time.
That's why I live on a ranch.
I stay as far from Hollywood as possible.
Yeah.
You already made your money and we know
we got it.
We still got his fingers with his smut,
his 50 shades of smut.
Well, there's that new book that came out
that I was going to send him a
cut, not a copy of the book, but
just a link to this.
Uh, it's it's the latest.
I wish I could remember the name of
it, but it has something to do with
a, a woman who gets a job jerking
off bulls.
Oh, it's a, it's a three season series
on Netflix.
The woman who jerks off bulls brought to
you by Hollywood, big wig, Dana Brunetti, somebody
in the, in the chat room, the troll
room might, but it's an erotic, it's a
form of erotic.
And I guess it's disgusting.
It's it's, it must be a bestiality story
of some sort, but whatever the case is,
it is, I immediately thought it was cash
in on this.
Is the book called beef jerky by any
chance?
No, it's not called beef jerky.
Wow.
Like the minotaur and the lady or something.
We are 15 years old.
Welcome to the no agenda show.
Those trolls are in the troll room and,
and they're coming up with lots of, lots
of titles for this book, which cannot be
repeated on air.
Um, and they're listening at no agenda stream
.com.
Hopefully they're using one of the modern podcast
apps so they don't get screwed out of
the bat signal and listening live in the
app when they want to.
Or of course, when we publish you immediately
get your notification within 90 seconds, you get
chapter images, you get chapters, you get transcripts,
all kinds of goodies that are included in
the modern podcast apps.
And you are not supporting AWS or the
global corporate internet.
You're supporting independent software developers, you know, and,
and you know what, get the extra features
for $2.99 a month, help these guys
out.
They're doing good, doing good work.
So as we just discussed, we're not going
for eyeballs, data burn anything.
So if you could, if your video goes
viral, then more people will come and listen.
Yeah, sure they will.
They'll be listening to the clips.
They'll never come listen to the show.
That's exactly how, that's exactly what, what Silicon
Valley wants.
Yeah.
Put the clips on our platform so we
can shove ads in their face and not
give those guys anything.
Because I don't watch Rogan so much as
just watch his little clips that come and
go.
In fact, they have even Rogan memes.
Same thing.
Where Rogan says, Hey, look at this video.
This is great.
It's just some rando thing.
It wasn't even on the show.
Yeah.
I said, Tina said, yeah, but just out
of interest.
So do you listen to Megan Kelly's podcast?
Yes, I do.
Well, do you listen to it on, she
uses fountain.
Do you listen on fountain?
No.
Well, what do you mean?
No, I just listened to a couple of
clips on YouTube.
It's the exact same thing.
I mean, you're, you're letting Silicon Valley steal
your audience.
Now we don't have an audience.
Luckily we have producers and I like, I
like our life.
We don't have to talk to Hollywood boys
about ads or anything like that.
We don't, we don't have to be worried
about the algos.
He's the best way he comes, comes closest
to being a suit.
He's a total suit.
He total suit.
He's always been a suit.
Yeah.
He's a suit.
Yeah.
And then, and yeah.
Great business.
You have Brunetti.
You got to go sue that your, your,
your movie company every year for the money
that he's paying you.
Like, yeah.
Well, at least he's getting his money.
Well, but so are the lawyers.
Now that whole, it's, it's a, it's a
mess.
And what really do you get with ads?
Like $2 CPM, please.
No, I'm not interested in that.
And the funny thing about the ads is
to do inside baseball material here.
When the first ads came, when the first
web, uh, when the browsers came out and
then people started doing websites, the early advertising,
cause I was part of CNET.
Yes, I remember.
And so when they first started doing advertising,
they were getting, because nobody knew, you know,
the advertisers are, we have to, I think
you and I would agree that advertisers in
general are, are, they're kind of nuts and
dumb.
And, uh, I guess we can say that
cause we don't have any.
Yeah.
And the, and the ad buyers are the
worst.
There's they're, they're mostly girls just out of
college and they don't know anything and they
don't care.
And, uh, so the, so they were getting
for banner ads, just a little banner on
any page.
And they had a number of them on
each page, $100, a thousand was the CPM.
$100 for a thousand views or clicks.
Uh, it was, uh, views not clicks.
Wow.
So they had, so the CPM was 100,
uh, and per thousand.
And it was like, and it stayed that
way for probably five years.
Wow.
It finally started to deteriorate.
Uh, when Leo first started doing his, uh,
shows early on, this is 20 years ago
when he first started doing podcasting, he was
getting $75 a thousand and, uh, podcast ads.
That was for Ford.
Well, Ford gave him a bonus too.
And so, uh, but those days are over
now.
I've heard as low as 75 cents from
a hundred dollars.
I mean, for banner ads is probably even
lower than that, but for podcast advertising, you
know, ever since podcasts decided to do DAI
dynamic ad insertion, it's, it sucks.
It just sucks.
You know, it's like, you got ads popping
up in the middle of shows like mid
it's a mid roll.
It's a, it's an annoyance is what it
is.
I hate the product.
Deny that, but it cuts into the guy
in the middle of a guy's sentence.
Yes, it does.
It's not, you know, uh, it's rarely, it's
not elegant the way it goes in.
It's rarely elegantly timed as you put it.
And who wants a post roll?
No one listens to the end.
No one listened to the end of our
show either.
There's like five guys and a goat at
the end, like, Oh, cool mixes, man.
Nice tip.
JCD.
Yeah, it's true.
Yeah.
It's the same with YouTube.
You know, and then how many views you
got?
Yeah.
A view is three seconds.
It's meaningless.
It's all a scam.
It's all a charade.
All we're going to do on today's show,
ladies and gentlemen, is complain.
And, and this is what I like.
It's like, even if people are listening to
three seconds of the show, when they send
value back, that three seconds was clearly valuable
to them.
And I love that.
I feel good.
I go to bed.
I go to sleep with a clear conscience,
but I don't have to worry about, uh,
getting de-platformed or someone, you know, like
having a boycott, you know, because, because Vorak
said something off color, you know, it was
always, he's not safe for work clips.
Oh, well, BMW can't advertise in a podcast
like that.
We can't have that.
No, no.
I'd rather be poor than, than have that
life.
And we're not far from we're doing okay.
We're hanging in there.
It'll be 18 years on Sunday, John.
How about that?
That's something to celebrate.
Well, let's hope everyone celebrates it.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, value for value.
You already got the picture.
Um, you can help us immensely by becoming
a producer of the no agenda show.
If you're listening right now, you are by
default, a producer, which means when we say,
Hey, uh, how about this stupid jet fighter
from Sweden?
Someone will have to find, get somebody that
knows what they're talking about telling us exactly
what's going on with that.
Exactly.
When we talk about six, seven, six, seven.
Did you get a lot of people emailing
you about this?
I did.
As a matter of fact, was an interesting
clip from some guy who is a, who
is a, um, word Smith guy.
And he went on and on about some
of these bull crap.
I got zero interesting clips, but I did,
I did like the most, the majority of
our no agenda parents would send stuff like
this, uh, Adam six, seven ended with 13
pushups right after the alpha daughters tried it.
I like that.
You got it.
That's a good one.
Yep.
Uh, Adam and John says loose my two
teenage boys and their friends starting to talk
slang in my presence while laughing in my
face.
I told them if they ever would talk
like that again, while I'm in the room,
they would, they would be their last chill
session in my house.
They know I mean it by the expression
on my face.
So they never did it again.
See, this is how you deal with it.
Um, let's see.
About a month ago, I heard my kids
and their friends start saying six, seven to
each other.
So it clearly wasn't just to piss off
their parents.
Although it clearly had that effect.
If other parents were around, as soon as
they brought that crap into my house, I
went on full offensive mode and said six,
seven, so many times in one day that
they never wanted to hear it again.
And I haven't heard from them since I
use the same tactic with like, well, my
sweet kindergartner started with that.
I like said, I like, like so many
like times that like that immediately.
And then I could just start saying like,
and they hear how stupid it sounds.
I hope this helps the no agenda community,
but then the most, then the most important
one from Derek, I have a six year
old in kindergarten in Columbus, Ohio.
I had no idea what you were talking
about on Sunday show.
And lo and behold, Monday, she came six
year old, she came home from school and
all she would say was six, seven, six,
seven.
That is the simulations way of telling me
it's time to donate.
You guys are way ahead of it all
as usual.
That's true.
When you hear six, seven, it's time to
donate to the no agenda show.
Okay.
That's a new donation level.
67.
67.
And we will mention you by name specifically.
If you donate six, seven, but before we
do that, we need to thank our prompt
jockeys who help us out with value for
value by creating AI art for us.
And a comic strip blogger who is always,
always on no agenda, artgenerator.com usually with
a, but this time it actually was kind
of a cool piece.
We both saw it.
We liked it.
It was a no Kings protest, except there
was a very prominent comic strip blogger.
It wasn't a commissary blogger.
No, I'm a strict blogger.
Did the one that week the show before,
Oh, well, this is a, this is a
mistake on my part.
I'm sorry.
Well, he does always send, but, but images
though.
I was right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can say that blue acorn.
I'm sorry.
It was blue acorn.
I'm sorry.
Blue acorn.
I'll fix that.
It was blue acorn.
There you go.
Blue acorn.
And it was, it was a good piece.
We liked it.
Did you see all the other images or
the little signs in that, in that particular
image?
No, no, I didn't pay him.
No.
One says no assets.
One says, Oh no.
Yeah.
I looked at all those signs.
Afro agenda.
This is AI is really bad.
Well, sometimes needy in evenness, uh, arrow Gunas.
It's like when you really start to pay
attention to what the AI is writing on
the other side.
Can't write.
It's horrible.
It's really bad.
It's like trying to write in a dream.
I don't know about it.
I talked to Mimi about this because we,
you know, I had this process of trying
to wake myself up during dreams or at
least realize I'm dreaming.
So I think I'm going to have some
fun in the dream.
Although it usually wakes me up and uh,
you know, you can have fun and grab
a Uzi and start shooting down people.
Um, this is what you do.
And this is you.
So let me just get this right.
I can't, I can't pull it off.
I can't do it.
I've always thought about it.
You're trying to wake yourself up from the
dream.
No, no.
I'm trying to realize that in the dream
I'm in a dream.
It's kind of like the inception movie where
you, you know, you, it's a dream and
you're in it and then you're in the
dream and you know that this is a
dream and then you can manipulate the dream.
And you know, no wonder, no wonder Brunetti
couldn't get through to you.
You're talking to Mimi about this on the
phone for hours about how to kill people
in your dream.
One of the things, one of the things
I, I, I know I woke my, my,
my subconscious keeps telling me even though I'm
starting to convince myself it's a dream.
No, this is reality.
Don't worry about it.
And one of the things that I think
everyone should, and I got to the point
where I understand this problem because there's two
things you can't do in a dream.
One, you can't dial a phone.
You mean rotary or on your smart phone?
Oh no, a push button phone.
You can't do it.
You think you can because it's just a
phone with buttons and you'll just keep pushing
the wrong numbers.
And it's just like, oh, wait a minute.
Let me start over.
Let me start over.
Then we start over.
The other thing is you can't write in
a dream.
You try to write something and it just
goes off the page.
The A's don't, you don't, the letters don't
show up and you can't write a number
down.
So give me your number.
And then you give them, somebody gives you
a give five, seven, seven, and you put
five, you get the five.
And then this is like a, then the
line drops off and you can't figure out
why.
And you should know in the dream, if
you can't write and you can't punch the
numbers in the phone, then you know, you're
in a dream dream.
Okay.
I have not, I've, I've got that in
my head.
I try to do it.
And my brain says, no, no, no, that
though.
You're having trouble writing.
I think you may have more trouble than
just that with this conversation.
You seem to be kind of weird.
What?
I mean, I think it's cool to try
to know you're in a dream if you're
in one.
You sure you want having a stroke?
Well, that's what you start to think when
you can't write.
That's a problem.
Hey, um, there was a lot of art.
Uh, none of which there was a lot
of no Kings are blogger had the one
with the Trump and the two horses.
Yeah.
That's what you're thinking.
I thought that was funny.
It was funny, but the joke wasn't about
Trump.
It was about Gavin.
I know, but, but it was still funny
because of Trump's Trump also does a, a
dance with his two hands.
In fact, he does the dance better than
Gavin.
So Gavin's got, he just stickulates in a
very odd way.
There was a lot of, uh, ace freely
stuff.
I'm not going to, I'm not going to
use a dead guy as artwork.
That's no good.
I don't want to do that.
No, that's no good.
And, uh, and again, everything's orange.
The whole page is orange.
Everything looks so orange.
It's just the orange, orange, orange.
It's disappointing.
You know, it doesn't take much to correct
that.
It's just color correction.
It's not a big deal.
And, uh, and now of course we have
AI end of show mixer.
So that'll probably also be just orange.
It all starts to blend together and sound
alike.
And we'll be able to track the, the
actual model collapse.
Uh, but it, it doesn't seem like the
country and Western stuff has already done gone.
It's so disappointing because it is, I mean,
the country and Western stuff that we get
out of AI is most of the stuff
is just formulaic.
It's like, there's nothing really interesting.
I mean, have you listened to it?
It's just like Taylor Swift.
Yeah.
Formulaic crap.
Absolutely.
And there's a place for that, but not
on this show.
We expect better from you.
Another thing we'd like to do is thank
our producers who support us with the final
of the three T's time, talent, and treasure.
And that is of course the treasure.
And, uh, what we do here in this
little section is we thank the people who
are fortunate enough to support us with $200
or more.
And in that case, not only do we
read your note, but we'll also give you
an official Hollywood credit, associate executive producer.
And if it's $300 or more, we will
give you the title of executive producer.
And we'll also read your note.
And of course we launched a new, a
new promotion, which is a dynamite one.
And, uh, I think I came up with
it accidentally, uh, on a post-show conversation.
This is the international peace prize.
No, you didn't.
I'm pretty sure I did.
Well, we do have the international peace prize
available.
So tell us about this international peace prize.
Well, this said no agenda show international peace
prize.
And we will, um, for a thousand dollars,
you get a, uh, instant knighting, uh, executive
producership and the international peace prize.
And it has art.
It's presented in a vertical format with art
on the left, just like the Nobel peace
prize.
And then the certificate on the right.
And, uh, we'll see how it goes.
But in addition to this, we are sending
one to the president of the United States,
to the vice president of the United States.
Who else are we sending one to Mike
Johnson?
It's depends, but, but I think Whitcoff gets
one.
He should get one.
And so should, uh, Kushner and BB.
Doesn't BB get one for just, no, BB
doesn't get one.
No, he gets, that'll be our next promotion
will be a international criminal court.
So I think an indictment would be good.
Yeah.
An official indictment.
That is a funny one.
So we start off, uh, with our first,
uh, executive producer who comes in with $1
,030 and 15 cents, which is nice.
And he says, please find enclosed a check
for $1,030 and 15 cents to boost
my peerage status to Viscount of South Felton.
I guess this will also in this, I
guess this also entitles me to claim the
title of secretary general of South Felton.
It does.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sir.
Ken of pencil Tucky soon to be Viscount
and secretary general of South Felton.
And we thank you very much.
And, uh, yes, your title will be changed.
Now, hold on a second.
What?
What?
Oh, that was okay.
You're right.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I cause next on the list is another
note.
There's not a note.
This notice here.
Nevermind.
I'm confused.
You are sir.
Boiled peanut in St. Petersburg, Florida came in
next.
So sir, Ken didn't ask for a jingle
or anything.
No.
So as sir, boiled peanut came just under
the wire here at $1,004 and 95
cents.
Uh, he's now also a Viscount.
That's where I got confused.
Just health prayers and baby-making, uh, baby
-making prayers.
But he doesn't want no baby-making karma.
So we're not giving it.
No.
And I, and I, when I spread, she
came in, I took care of it for
you.
So thank you very much, sir.
Boiled peanut.
You also are a number of Christians out
there that do not like our karma.
Yeah.
That's why, that's why I would not insult
him by giving a baby-making karma.
Dr. Sir Otter.
Well, he's a doctor.
We know why.
Lincoln, Nebraska, 51538.
Dear Dr. Sir Otter of Flatwater here.
Sorry for the late donation.
Please make me secretary general of Ancapistan.
Ancapistan.
Okay.
I'm not familiar with Ancapistan.
I don't know what Ancapistan is.
But it shall be, it shall be done.
You got it.
Towers Comics in Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta, Canada.
Not Saskatchewan, but Fort Saskatchewan, and not in
Saskatchewan, but in Alberta.
51538, which is probably God knows what.
Dub me secretary general.
Well, he thinks it's at least a thousand
dollars.
He does.
But he wants to be secretary general of
the Republic of Alberta.
Okay.
That sounds like a winner.
Can I hear the jingle Biden whole load?
And can we get some baby-making karma,
please?
Check out what at AltaHats.com for the
limited edition hats and hoodies.
AltaHats.com.
Yeah.
If you take a look at it, it's
pretty cool because it shows a moose.
It shows a moose, I think a buffalo.
And then in the middle of the moose
and the buffalo is a oil well, because
of course we know that's where that's Alberta.
Alberta is where all the oil is.
And it's a big, and they have hoodies
too.
Made in Alberta.
Republic.
Oh, Republic of Alberta.
Very good.
We like that.
Very no agenda of you, sir.
I'm going to give you the whole load
today.
You've got karma.
Brandon Kiefer, Girard, Illinois, 500 bucks.
And he says, all karma to be passed
and shared to the most noble among us.
No jingles required.
Please encourage flight training.
Yes, I encourage that for every young boy
or girl parents.
If you can afford at least a test
flight, an introductory flight, um, give your kids
some flight training.
It's a, it's a good thing.
It's a good skill to have.
It's not cheap, but it's a good thing
to have.
You've got karma.
I also recommend getting a ham license, which
is cheap.
That is much cheaper.
Yep.
And you can get started for what?
What are the, what are the, what are
the radios these days?
They, 15 bucks, I think like, yeah, they're
nothing.
They're giving them away.
You can pop on the repeater and, uh,
loads of fun.
Uh, sir.
Rick, uh, recoil, sir.
Recoil in Franklin, Tennessee, three 50, 58.
This three, three, three donation is a shameless
plug to the parents of middle Tennessee for
exploring private schooling.
Yes.
Parents who are interested in an education where
their human resources will learn to read clock,
read and write in cursive and know what
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Uh, especially the Florida doesn't.
I encourage you to look into George Washington
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The school is committed to affordability to help
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GWA has been supportive as supportive classes in
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The school fosters a proud community where parents
are welcome.
And this is a plug, by the way,
I think so.
And all the decisions are made based on
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unusual.
The school has year round calendar where they're
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they grow to complete K through 12 program.
Please contact admissions at GWA school.org.
You should be able to get the edu.
I think so too.
To schedule a visit or go to GWA
school.org.
Thank you for the courage, sir.
Recoil jingles, goat karma for all.
You've got karma.
Ryan Archibald is in St. Clair Shores, um,
Michigan.
Three 33 dot 33 jingle requests.
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Uh, the baronet to surplus surplus to requirements
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What's in the Atlantic, Florida, 3333.
And he has a note.
Uh, is this the one?
Is this it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very baronet surplus requirements.
Greetings.
This note came in by the way, in
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Happy birthday, Adam.
Hmm.
Thank you.
Beautiful.
There we go.
Things do get misrouted.
They do grumpy old Danes coming in dames
from Ketchikan, uh, Alaska.
Yeah.
Two 14 and a penny.
And they have a note here.
ITM.
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We hit people in the mouth.
Let's play this clip.
This is the China this, but, you know,
they've been doing a purge in China of
the generals.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
I didn't don't hear much about it, but
I'm sure I don't talk about much.
I'm sure that China haters at NTD had
something to say.
Oh, yeah.
The NTD would be covering it to an
extreme.
But but listen to this.
This is a wow clip.
A wow clip.
Shun kun says that at least four more
top generals are now under investigation, and many
of those already purged were handpicked by Chinese
leader Xi Jinping himself.
Shun kun also says that two of those
already expelled from the party last week are
now dead.
Hu Weidong, considered Xi Jinping's right hand man,
was the vice chairman of the Central Military
Commission.
He reportedly died of a heart attack.
And the other general loyal to Xi, Hu
Hongjun, dying of suicide.
Beijing has not confirmed those deaths.
And China's defense ministry says that the expulsions
are part of an anti-corruption campaign started
by Xi Jinping himself back in 2012.
But now the sweep appears to be turning
inward, targeting Xi's inner circle.
The CCP is made up of different factions,
with the Xi opposition faction working to undermine
his power.
Now, according to Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, one
of those CCP officials in the Xi opposition
faction, Li Chenggang, may have issued those rare
earth export restrictions without Xi's knowledge.
Oh, that is a wow clip.
Huh.
Interesting.
So they're falling out of windows.
They're committing suicide.
They're dead, Jim.
Wow.
His old buddies.
Wow.
That's pretty good.
So it's another series.
They're short clips, except for one or two.
It's just because it's so unbelievable what Hollywood
is doing to scare parents into vaccinating their
kids.
The last time we had the hit Emmy
award-winning show, what was it called?
The Drip, The Pit, The Pit, I think.
The Pit.
The Pit.
And I don't think we have to play
the Brady Bunch again to hear about how
happy the little kid was that she had
measles.
She could stay home and she got ice
cream and didn't have to, ooh, didn't want
a needle.
And then Alice got the measles and it's
happy music and everyone's jouncey jolly and it's
okay, just got the measles.
I remember having the measles.
Did you ever have the measles?
Oh, of course.
Okay.
How did you feel?
Did you feel bad, run down?
Well, I didn't like the spots all over
and you had to stay in the dark.
You forget about that part.
You're not supposed to go out in the
bright light.
Why?
What happens then?
I don't know.
It's something to your eyes or something.
It hurts.
It's not good.
When you have the measles, you're not supposed
to be in the light.
So now that RFK Jr. is on the
scene, we've got too many people questioning vaccines.
We don't just have a measles vaccine.
We have the MMR. It's a trifecta, the
measles, mump, rubella.
By the way, if you want to give
that to your kids, fine, go ahead.
I have no problem with your personal choice.
But I do have a problem with the
hit show ER and the clip custodian.
I mean, he did the last series of
the pit as well.
I mean, it's really unbelievable.
But ER is not a show anymore, is
it?
Is it not?
I don't know.
Not that I know of.
It's an old dead show.
It could be a dead show, but how
dead is it?
He clearly watched it.
Well, I mean, that doesn't mean much nowadays
with all these channels that play old TV.
Yeah.
Just let me do a little work on
this.
Yeah, you do the work and I'll play
these clips because I don't know when this
was from, but man, check it out.
Zach Woodman, four years old, status post-grand
mal seizure at his preschool.
We were just finishing arts and crafts and
he started shaking and wet his pants.
Your mother?
No, his preschool teacher.
Feels like he's burning up.
BP's 100 over 60, pulse 120.
Does he have a history of epilepsy?
No, not that I know of.
Zach, open your eyes.
I think it ended in 2009.
Yep, 2009.
So this was in the, oh, I can't,
this is at least 15 years ago when
I did, I did one of the clip
shows that had a lot of this.
There was a period of time and Law
& Order had most of them.
There was a period of time in the
early part of our, of the No Agenda
era, in the early years that we played
these clips and it was, and I remember
distinctly one of the lines was, oh, nope,
had measles.
And it was a Law & Order episode
where somebody sued the mom because the kid
had measles.
He went to school, they wouldn't get a
shot, didn't get the measles shot.
This is when the shot, I think when
the shot, maybe when the shot first arrived,
I'm not sure.
And it was just all propaganda about how
dangerous the measles was.
And this was the first ep, the first
showing of that, that, that party line, that,
that narrative that measles was deadly.
Well, in, in this series, they hadn't even
ever seen measles, these doctors.
So.
I've noticed this in the, I think in,
there was, wasn't that also expressed in the
pit?
Yeah.
The pit clip had the guy said, whoa,
what's this?
He's got, he's got spots on his face.
Well, listen to this clip here.
How's it going?
Easy tap when they're unconscious.
It looks pretty clear.
Cute kid.
What's his name?
Zach.
Cell count, glucose, protein, gram stain, and culture.
He's got those shoes that lit up when
you walked.
How do you think they do that?
Do you want to roll him back over?
What is that?
What?
That.
You didn't tell me he had a macular
rash.
Wasn't there half an hour ago?
It must be a viral exanthem.
Could be measles.
Measles.
Fever, altered mental status, pneumonia.
Or more likely he has a virus with
pneumonia and had a febrile seizure from a
high temperature.
That is a classic measles rash.
Can you hear me tongue depressor?
Have you ever seen measles?
No.
You?
Of course not.
Nobody's seen measles.
Really?
He's got conflict spots in the buccal mucosa.
What?
Or he bit the inside of his mouth
when he was seizing.
Malik, there's a Nelson's in the lounge.
Can you go grab it please?
Not now.
Here it comes.
Grab the mom.
Grab the mom.
Listen to this.
Hey Zach, all right?
This is Mrs. Woodman.
I was in court.
I have to turn off my cell when
we're in session.
Oh my god.
I'm Dr. Chen.
Your son had a seizure and a high
temperature.
We've done a spinal tap to rule out
meningitis.
Mrs. Woodman, are all Zach's immunizations up to
date?
No.
Has he had the MMR?
He hasn't had any immunizations.
None of our children have.
Oh, boom.
Did you hear that?
Did you hear that?
None of our children have.
Boom.
Spinal tap to rule out meningitis.
Mrs. Woodman, are all Zach's immunizations up to
date?
No.
Has he had the MMR?
He hasn't had any immunizations.
None of our children have.
Abby, put a mask on Zach.
What's the matter?
What the hell is happening?
Oh my god.
Call the school.
Don't let anybody leave.
What's the matter with my son?
Your son has measles.
That's not too bad, right?
One in 500 kids die from measles.
Well, I don't have to play the whole
thing.
The kid dies at the end.
Spoiler.
But this propaganda, that's even funnier to me
that it hasn't been around for 15 years
they've been psy-opping people with this nonsense.
And then, put a mask on the kid.
Nobody leaves.
He's contaminated with measles.
Well, everybody else obviously had the shot.
Why would anybody be concerned in the least?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Well, there's good news, though.
By the way, that sounded a lot like
COVID.
Like, oh, it's COVID.
Oh, don't leave.
Put a mask on.
Have you heard the latest?
The latest research about the COVID-19 mRNA
vaccine.
It can't be good.
Oh, it's exactly good.
I mean, where you, you, just non-science
believer thought that possibly these shots could be
related to a spike in turbo cancer.
For the last 12 years, we've been working
on personalized mRNA cancer vaccines.
Over this time, we made an absolutely fascinating
discovery, which is even if the mRNA is
completely non-specific to a patient's cancer, that
mRNA could wake up the sleeping giant that
is the immune system to fight cancer.
We discovered this in mouse models, and a
brilliant graduate student who was working with us,
who's now at MD Anderson, asked a brilliant
question, which is, if non-specific mRNA vaccines
can wake up the immune system against cancer,
what happens to patients receiving the COVID-19
mRNA vaccine?
What happens to those patients who are also
receiving conventional immunotherapies?
And the results were absolutely remarkable.
Patients with some of the most aggressive forms
of skin and lung cancer had a near
doubling in survival outcome if they received these
COVID-19 mRNA vaccines within a hundred days
of also receiving conventional immunotherapy.
This is one of the most exciting observations
I have seen in my 20-year career
as a cancer researcher.
I think the confirmatory work in a prospective
trial is of the utmost importance and urgency.
The notion that we may be able to
use a simple vaccine to awaken a patient's
immune response to better fight their disease may
totally change the way we think about treating
cancer for the foreseeable future.
Now, through the One Florida Consortium, we're working
to prove these results definitively in a phase
three randomized control trial.
And if proven to be true, this could
revolutionize the field of cancer by allowing something
like a universal cancer vaccine to be instantly
available to patients around the globe to wake
up their immune system and now keep it
active with some of the conventional therapies available.
Hey Bill, Bill, Bill, we got a problem
with these mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.
First of all, we got too many of
them.
People aren't taking them.
We got to come up with something so
people will want these things.
You got any ideas?
Yeah, let's put a piano player in the
background for starters.
What the hell is that all about?
It's soothing.
It makes you feel good.
Yeah, we'll just tell everybody that it actually
cures cancer.
Hey, that's great, Bill.
Good job.
I got another one for you.
How can we profit off of all of
these opioid addicted human resources?
Let me think, Bill.
Maybe if we sold them something that they
could use instead of that, would that be
one?
Yeah, I got it.
Let's call it sublocade.
We're already on buprenorphine.
Sublocade is just one dose that lasts all
month long with no complete detox required.
Buprenorphine should be started after the first signs
of withdrawal.
Sublocade may cause harm or death if injected
in a vein.
As an opioid, it may cause serious life
-threatening breathing problems.
Ask about naloxone for opioid overdose.
Get emergency help right away if you're faint,
dizzy, sleepy, confused, have problems breathing, seeing, or
talking, or if naloxone is given.
Don't take with other opioids, benzos, alcohol, or
other drugs, including street drugs.
This can cause severe drowsiness, decreased awareness, breathing
problems, coma, and death.
In emergencies, tell medical staff you're on sublocade
for opioid dependence.
This isn't a full list of risks and
side effects.
Talk to your doctor and read patient label
for more information.
I would love to hear from some of
our producers, and I know some of them
struggle with opioid addiction.
Have you tried the sublocade?
This seems wrong to me.
It's like, isn't this basically like the methadone
bus or the, you know, morphine replacement?
It doesn't seem like you're...
I have no idea.
I've never even heard of this until now.
Buprenorphine.
Buprenorphine.
There you go.
Buprenorphine.
Extended release injection.
But don't inject it into your vein, they
say, because that could be bad.
I know we have people struggling with addiction.
I'd like to know if you've tried it,
if it helps, because it seems to me
like these guys are just ghouls jumping on
the bandwagon.
Yeah, that's what I'm guessing.
And then the final one, which I just,
this is great, particularly because I live in
a state where for some reason our governor
will not follow the governors of other states
like Florida and ban spraying stuff in the
air.
So many chemtrails.
The whole theory goes out the window of
the government shutdown, no chemtrails, because there were
a lot of chemtrails in the past few
days.
Just floating down to the ground.
Oh, you actually saw droplets coming to the
ground?
You actually saw that from 30,000 feet,
but it came down into the ground?
It's not 30,000 feet, John.
It literally floats down to the ground.
It's not 30,000 feet.
You're confused.
These are trails that form, you know, like
a little wash of cloud and they just
drift to the ground.
Yes, I saw that in California when I
lived there.
These things float to the ground.
That's why they're not vapor trails.
Clearly.
I don't know what's in them, but it's
not a vapor trail.
So yes, I did see that.
And it's all over Texas.
But now in the...
See, this is when people understand that you
are horrible and mean to me.
This is exactly an example.
But the USDA has even better things now
for your protection and your safety.
There have been multiple reports of rabies around
the metro Atlanta area just this year alone.
And so the USDA says they're doing something.
They're going to try to nip the problem
in the bud right there at the source.
So they're going to be dropping 700,000
oral pills that are supposed to target raccoons
in our area.
And what they'll do is it'll stop the
spread of rabies by trying to build immunity
in those raccoons.
So let's head over to a map that
has been put on the USDA.
They're dropping 700,000 rabies pills, dropping them
from the sky.
Website, this is something that you can actually...
Bomb the area with rabies pills.
Yes.
So in other words, on your roof, you're
going to hear a bunch of clinking.
Well...
And a bunch of pills are going to
roll off the roof and there's going to
be a little ring of pills that the
dog can eat.
Is that what you're saying here?
Yes.
Yes.
So let's head over to a map that
has been put on the USDA's website.
This is something that you can access right
there at home.
If you see the red here, that is
where some of these pills have already been
dropped.
They're going to be coming from helicopters and
airplanes flying over our areas.
So red is where it's already been.
Gray is where they still have to go.
When is this going to happen?
October 14th and October 15th.
That's when helicopters will be dropping those pills.
And then again, on October 21st through October
28th, there are going to be some planes
dropping the same pills.
If they happen to land in your neighborhood,
do not touch them.
Do not move them.
They're not there for you.
They're there for the raccoons to make sure
that you and your fur babies don't get
infected.
What could possibly go wrong?
This is in Texas?
No, this is Virginia.
That was Virginia.
Yeah, I think they're trying to, there's something
else going on.
This is bullcrap.
Well, yeah, it's not good.
I don't think it's dropping a bunch of
pills from the sky.
And what's going to, what's it, what is
a raccoon going to do?
He sees these things say, hey, hey, Phil,
what do you think about these little pills
they've dropped all over the place?
Are we supposed to eat these things?
I wouldn't eat it.
The raccoons.
Will the raccoons eat everything they see?
Uh, I guess.
Well, there must be eating a lot of
rocks.
I don't know.
I don't know.
This doesn't sound right.
Uh, so you sent me a clip of,
um, anti-immigration protests in Amsterdam.
I'm very bummed out by what happened.
Literally this morning, cause I, I saved it
and like, okay.
And I watched it and I was like,
okay, I was going to get a couple
of clips from it.
I am watching the clip and all of
a sudden, and I'm actually, I got about
a minute and a half.
I'm clipping this one bit and then poof,
it says, I don't remember exactly what I
said, but he said, this video is no
longer available.
And I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
Pulled the video right out from under the
rug, right out of it.
I'm irked by this cause I sent it
to you.
I could have clipped some stuff out of
there and I should have, although it was
mostly an hour long presentation of some of
a, one of these independent journalists is showing
all kinds of crazy stuff going on in
Holland.
And, but you did get to watch it
before you started trying to clip it.
Yeah.
Well, I actually, I actually got one clip,
which will be worth it because it's a
bunch of Dutch people.
And this is what I've been saying.
I was saying the Dutch are fed up
with the, it's, it is legal migration because
the, they caught the, they keep chanting about
the, uh, ACZs, the Azeelzooker, A-Z-Cs,
Azeelzooker Centrum.
So it's the asylum seekers centers, which are
placed all over the country.
It's creating a huge mess.
It's very similar to the UK with their
migrant hotels.
It's all part of the same program, the
same system.
And now the Dutch, which as the video,
uh, was titled hooligans, football hooligans.
Well, there's a lot of just normal citizens
who are mad about this and they're fed
up.
And here's what I was able to clip
from it.
What's happening to the Netherlands?
The Netherlands is rising up against, uh, mass
immigration, but, uh, our country is not safe
anymore for our children.
And that's why are we walking here?
What crimes have you seen?
You say it's not safe anymore.
Murder, uh, from Lisa to, uh, sexual abuse
to a lot of other stuff.
And we won't want that in our country.
We want safety for our children.
Is that in Amsterdam or across the Netherlands,
would you say?
Across the Netherlands.
On August the 20th, a 17 year old
Dutch girl named Lisa was stabbed to death
while cycling home to a village just outside
Amsterdam after a night out.
Police later arrested a 22 year old man
who came into the country illegally with no
ID.
People that come here, they commit more crimes,
do you believe?
If you look a few years ago in
was all normal.
Now, if you go to Paris, all scammers,
all, uh, immigration or guys, and they come
to the Netherlands from Paris, they don't need
a passport.
They want money here.
And then they go back.
You accept our norms, our values, our laws.
Then there's not never be a problem.
Do you think the Netherlands needs to start
deporting people who commit crimes?
Not from this country?
We are not doing that here.
I think that from Africa, only criminals are
coming here.
So you don't think they send their best?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no.
So extremism is being sponsored.
Yeah.
Without enemy, no hero.
You can think about it.
So you guys are the heroes?
When you come up for your own, you're
always a hero.
You have to protect your own and then
your neighbor.
Yeah.
No, this is a, this is a big
movement, but there's a couple of things I
wanted to point out.
One, they also interviewed a bunch of side
people on the side who were against them
against the protest.
I was at that part where it went,
when the video became unavailable and those are
the same.
And they were, they represented the same people
that hate Trump.
They were the same kind of lefties.
Oh, the migrants are good for the diversity
of the country.
They're not doing anything wrong.
They're here legally.
It's a shame that this is happening to
them and I don't see a problem.
And there's that group and they're Dutch.
And then there's also the question I had
about the orange flag, which it seems to
me that would be the flag they'd have
because the orange is a big color there.
It's like the orange is their color.
And so there's an orange, white, and blue
flag.
And then there's the red, white, and blue
flag, which is the official flag.
But the orange flag, they're saying, look at
these guys are carrying the orange.
It reminds me of that British flag, the
cross, the red cross on the white background.
Yeah.
The what's it called?
The UK, Britain flag.
The old school flag.
Yes.
The old flag and not the UK flag,
but Britain.
And so they had people saying that's a
Nazi flag.
And it also, a lot of them had
a V and they had two little circles
over the legs of the V.
I didn't see that part.
I didn't see that.
That was there.
And they say, well, that's a flag.
The orange flag is the one that the
Nazis flew during their occupation.
And so there's a bunch of fascists.
These are fascists and we need to stop
them.
Well, orange is because of the house of
orange, because the Dutch royal family is orange
and that is still seen as patriotic.
But considering the North Sea Nexus, I would
question that.
I'm bummed.
I'm bummed that I couldn't see the rest
of that video.
It was an hour long.
I was excited about getting good clips from
it.
But this is bubbling up everywhere in the
EU.
People are sick and tired of it.
They're sick and tired of the freedom of
movement of these immigrants.
Like you heard, hey, they're in Paris, the
scammers, they come down here, they scam us,
they go back up, they go back down
to Paris, all over the place.
And so Queen Ursula had to make mention
of this.
And these people come into the country legally.
That is true.
They're not illegal immigrants.
They are asylum seekers.
Here's the difference.
That's what they tried here.
Asylum.
I have asylum.
No, you want asylum?
You have to go through the actual approved
port.
Yeah, but I got asylum.
The minute I put my feet in American
soil, I have asylum.
Nope.
And everything else is not illegal immigration.
It's irregular immigration.
Yes.
The number of irregular arrivals continues to decline.
That is good.
That's good.
Policies are working.
But there is a sense of frustration among
Europeans.
The accumulated pressure over the years has put
a strain on member states resources.
And I want to be very clear that
our rules are also very clear.
Legal migration is welcome and we will need
more of it.
We need more of it.
Do you hear what she's saying?
Legal migration, which is the asylum seekers is
welcome.
And we will need more of it because
we're going to kill you people who live
in Europe.
We're bringing in a whole new replacement.
This is just what she's saying.
Very clear.
Legal migration is welcome and we will need
more of it.
But illegal migration is not.
And we cannot tolerate the smugglers and traffickers
working against our rules.
And there is a feeling.
There is a feeling that our rules are
not always enforced.
So we all must to do something against
this.
Yes, we all must to do something.
We much for this be committed.
No, they're not going to stop anything.
Anything.
And I know that my friends in Holland,
they applaud President Trump.
They're like, hey, man, it looks like a
mess, but I think it's good what he's
doing.
That's what you voted for.
Unfortunately, we didn't really vote for more expensive
knockoff handbags and Rolexes.
Tonight, an immigration crackdown in New York City
as federal agents descended on Canal Street, famous
for its bargain shopping and knockoff designer goods
and parts of Chinatown.
The raid, part of an operation targeting illegal
street vending, the scene turning chaotic as agents
made arrests and pushed back the crowd.
And it's gotten a little hairy at points
with people running, people falling down in the
street and federal agents running after them.
The traffic coming to a standstill at the
start of rush hour with cars trapped between
law enforcement officers.
The people selling those knockoff goods are often
migrants, which means that federal investigations here might
include a component of immigration enforcement.
It comes amid heavy federal presence in cities
across the country from New York to Chicago
to Los Angeles, where today Homeland Security officials
say a U.S. marshal and a suspected
undocumented immigrant with a criminal record were both
shot and wounded during a targeted traffic stop.
This is 20th and Trinity.
Looks like they wedged the vehicle.
Shots were fired.
We see the windows were blown out.
DHS officials say agents used a standard pit
maneuver to detain the suspect who had escaped
custody in the past.
They say this time when the man rammed
a federal vehicle trying to evade arrest, officers
opened fire, hitting him in the elbow.
A bullet ricocheting into the hand of the
U.S. marshal.
Both men were hospitalized.
The suspect, a TikToker known as Richard L
.A. 18, is an influencer known for capturing
video of these ice operations in L.A.,
even recognized by the city of L.A.
for his contributions to the community.
Last week, this dramatic Border Patrol chase of
a suspect through a Chicago neighborhood ended with
a pit maneuver, the operation sparking anti ice
clashes between protesters and federal agents.
A federal judge in Chicago concerned about aggressive
tactics, restricting the use of tear gas and
ordering agents to wear body cameras.
That's pretty brazen, man.
The TikToker is just here illegally, and then
the city of L.A. is like...
Gave him an award.
Good man.
Probably got a YouTube award, too.
Hang on your wall.
Here you go.
Good work.
Interestingly, according to CNN, this has not hurt
the president's polling, for what it's worth.
You know, we speak about Donald Trump shutdown,
net approval rate, and we're talking 20 days
into it.
This is the shutdown, I guess.
2018-2019, Donald Trump's net approval rating was
already falling.
The shutdown was eating into his popular support.
It was down three points already at this
particular point, and would fall considerably more.
It was very much on the decline.
You come over to this side of the
screen, this shutdown hasn't eaten into Donald Trump's
support at all.
His net approval rating is actually up a
point in terms of his popular support.
So the bottom line is this.
The first shutdown during Trump's first term, 2018
-2019, was hurting Donald Trump.
This one is not hurting him at all.
There's no real reason Donald Trump might say,
at least when it comes to popular support,
I want to get out of this shutdown.
Yeah, it was about the shutdown.
Sorry.
I thought it was about immigration.
Doesn't matter.
Polling is up.
Everybody loves him.
Polling is up.
Polling is down.
It's polling.
It's polling.
Of course it is.
It's polling.
We love it.
I have a couple of screwball clips.
The Gaza dead body swap clip is one
of my favorites here.
You know, they're swapping...
Corpses.
I know.
Israel and Hamas are exchanging the remains of
dead bodies.
The two sides are doing so as part
of President Trump's ceasefire plan for Gaza.
And PR's Anas Baba reports from Gaza, where
54 of the bodies handed over by Israel
were buried today without identification or closure for
families.
Unlike the remains of Israeli hostages identified using
DNA and medical records, the Palestinian corpses arrived
with no names and no identifying data.
Gaza's whole system, including labs, has been decimated
by war.
Dr. Munir Al-Borsh, head of Gaza's hospital,
says many bodies showed signs of being crushed
by tanks, skulls shattered, chests flattened.
I want to drink your blood.
Israeli authorities have not responded to requests for
comment.
I'm glad we got that clip in.
You put so much effort into it.
Actually, so Secretary...
How does a guy like that get a
job on NPR?
So Secretary Rubio is in Israel today.
He's mad.
He's mad.
Because the Israelis, they're doing stuff they shouldn't
be doing.
They're annexing more land.
This was not the deal.
Departing Washington for Israel, U.S. Secretary of
State Marco Rubio gave a stark warning.
An Israeli annexation of the West Bank would
threaten President Donald Trump's Gaza deal.
His comments came after the Israeli parliament voted
Wednesday to advance two annexation bills.
According to Jerusalem Post, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
had requested that the discussion be postponed.
The proposals, pushed by far-right ministers, would
extend Israeli sovereignty over the occupied West Bank.
The first bill would annex Maale Adumim, a
large settlement of 40,000 east of Jerusalem.
The second would annex the entire West Bank.
Hamas and several Arab states quickly condemned Wednesday's
vote.
The kingdom stresses its complete rejection of all
settlement and expansionist violations perpetrated by the Israeli
occupation authorities.
Marco Rubio's trip to Israel comes as J
.D. Vance is currently visiting the country.
The U.S. Vice President expressed cautious optimism
about keeping the peace on track.
But the Knesset's vote, along with accusations of
truce violations, raises concerns over an already fragile
ceasefire.
The two bills will now move forward for
further readings in parliament.
Eh, dummies.
Why did they do this?
It's not helping anything.
I think Netanyahu is still irked.
He's against it.
He said he didn't want this.
Well...
According to the report, whatever.
You don't know.
You don't know.
The way they do this stuff.
But have you noticed a sharp decline in
anti-Israel sentiment in the podcast sphere?
I...
Well, since I'm not the podcast expert that
you are, I haven't noticed this, but it
doesn't surprise me.
I will mention, by the way, going back
to that Dutch video that got taken down,
there was an awful lot of Dutch, again,
people hanging Palestinian flags during this protest and
throwing eggs at the protesters.
Throwing eggs at the protesters, yeah.
Oh yeah, I noticed that.
But we also haven't seen a lot of
from the river to the sea protest.
That seems to have died down.
In fact, I thought you would be rather
upset about Candace Owen taking a break.
I didn't know anything about this.
She's taken a break.
Why would I be upset?
I don't clip her.
You love Candace Owens.
You're a fan.
She's like the Rihanna of podcasting.
I thought you would love her.
I am not a fan of Candace Owens.
I tried to get her to do an
interview years ago and she wouldn't do anything.
She would stiffed us.
The vibes I get is that this is
another example of, let's use a black woman
to front run everything for us, and then
we'll just drop her when we don't need
her anymore, with her whole extended family of
British royalty and barony, et cetera.
She's taking a break.
I have it on good authority that the
husband of hers is a farmer guy.
Yeah.
And this is from somebody in DC.
And he's been, he hits on, he hits
on the men.
Oh, you had this on good authority.
And it's on good authority.
So he's hitting for the other team behind
her back is what you're saying.
Well, he could be a switch hitter.
And so here she is taking a break,
announcing her break.
He has to be a switch hitter, by
the way.
She's got four kids, you know, they've been
married for like two years.
Yeah.
And she's cranked out four babies.
Are you sure?
I thought she only had two.
No, I think it was.
Let's look it up.
She's got at least three.
I think it's four up to four.
Well, she leaves with a parting blow towards
Israel and somewhat towards President Trump as she
takes her break.
I just really needed to just take a
breather and really process everything that happened with
Charlie and what it kind of means in
terms of where we are.
And I think it is a circumstance where
we all we just know we just know
that he was truly betrayed in one of
the most egregious ways that I think I've
ever seen.
It has made me lose faith in politics.
It has made me fully lose faith in
Trump.
And I just like I just my heart
aches for the fact that he gave so
much of his life to Trump and to
politics.
And they just were like, nope, that is
it.
It serves us or doesn't serve us and
we want to move on.
And so here's a holiday.
Bro, if they try to give me a
holiday, what is with them giving people a
holiday after they kill them?
Why is that a thing?
You know what I mean?
Like, oh, Martin Luther King.
What about this holiday?
What about this boulevard?
Anyways, let me know.
They're going to give Charlie Kirk a boulevard.
They already did.
They did in Israel.
They gave him freaking bullets.
It's like as soon as they give you
a boulevard and a holiday, they definitely killed
you.
There's no question.
They killed you.
There's no way.
That's like their signature thing.
It's like that's what they do.
It's the it's the Fed signature.
It's currently sign off after they murder you.
So like holiday in a boulevard.
And it's never on the nice side of
town either.
Like Charlie Kirk Boulevard is not gonna be
a nice item.
Anyways, I will be back on the 27th.
You guys, thank you guys for all the
support throughout these couple of weeks.
These last really kind of six weeks since
Charlie died.
And we will see you guys then.
So there it is.
Four kids in she's been married longer than
two years, I presume.
Well, well, I guess maybe three.
She's been nonstop cranking out kids when she
married that guy.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know that now she needs
to take a break.
And why would she take that?
It makes no sense because she doesn't want
to have a holiday or or a boulevard
named after her.
She feels she's that's what she thinks she's
going to get.
She's a target.
Yes, exactly.
Because, you know, she's speaking truth.
And by the way, was it was I
right when we when you you you brought
the Tucker Carlson clips, you brought the clips.
I said, bad idea supply.
And lo and behold, the complaints rolled in.
You're just jealous of his success.
I think we said the opposite.
I said, I'm glad I don't have to
do this.
It's it's baffling.
People do not like it when you when
you deconstruct media in the podcast realm.
Then you're shooting inside the tent.
You're no good.
You're a problem.
You're jealous.
You know, it doesn't make much sense because
Tucker Carlson has always been a mainstream guy
anyway.
Now she's he's the headliner at the Charlie
Kirk events out of the blue.
No, they don't have events right now, do
they?
They just had a big giant event at
the University of Indiana.
Huge.
And then the headliner was Tucker.
Doing the Charlie Kirk back and forth.
And even though it's in his style, which
is very not Charlie Kirk.
Wait a minute.
Is this the one where he moaned about
Bitcoin again?
I don't know if that was if he
did or not.
This is just recent, like a couple of
days ago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hold on a second.
I have it here.
So I thought this was old.
Someone sent this to me.
I thought this was a really old one.
Hold on a second.
No, he's just he's booked for the next
event, Charlie Kirk event.
He's going to be the headliner.
I think this is co-option.
I think he's.
Yeah.
Where was it?
Where was the?
I think it was the University of Indiana.
That's what I remember.
Well, I thought this was old, but the
expo says this just in.
So that's why I'm thinking maybe you're right.
And here he is.
And nobody can explain to me who Satoshi
was.
The creator of Bitcoin.
This mysterious guy who apparently died, but nobody
knows who he was.
You know, I grew up in D.C.
primarily in a government family.
So CIA, that's my guess.
Can't prove it.
But like you're telling me to invest in
something whose founder is like mysterious and has
billions of dollars of unused Bitcoin.
Like, what is that?
And no one can answer the question, including
some of the biggest holders of Bitcoin in
the world.
Do I know personally?
They're like, oh, it doesn't matter.
What matters to me.
Right.
And nobody.
Yeah.
So he thinks Bitcoin was created by the
CIA.
I think this is co-option.
I think he's co-opted the this is
what happened to the Tea Party, if you
recall.
The Tea Party was which was really a
Ron Paul thing.
And then a true grassroots was taken over
by some old Republicans, old rhino type Republicans
kind of took it over and co-opted
it and ruined it.
Yeah, it's true.
And this is, I think, is what's happening
here.
You thought it was going to be Kirk's
wife, but I think she's not that bright.
And she's probably would give in to the
father figure of Tucker.
And I think Tucker's going to take the
thing over and then drive it off a
cliff.
Well, you heard it here first.
We'll keep our eye on it.
That may not be a very bad theory
at all.
I can't disagree with it.
And John C.
Dvorak, who can disagree with you helping us
list off the rest of our supporters, $50
and above for episode 1810, just days before
our 18th anniversary.
Yeah, everybody should make note the 18th anniversary
can use some support.
Now, the first person here, $118 is someone
from Amsterdam, and I would pronounce it Kiel.
Let me take a look.
Kiel, Kiel.
It's a C-A, Kiel.
Kiel.
Yes, yes.
Kiel.
Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada, $110.23. She's
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Good.
Dame Early Turtle in Topeka, Kansas, $103.33.
Dame Early Turtle?
That's what her name is, is the Early
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Early Turtle.
There's plenty of box turtles in Kansas.
I like the Early Turtle.
And they cross the road and get hit.
Robert Petta in Sacramento, California, $100.
Al Gonsolin, $84.38. Kevin McLaughlin, there he
is.
He sent a note in saying he never
got the newsletter.
A lot of people didn't get the newsletter.
We had a very shortfall in the newsletter
because there was something in the newsletter that
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Oh, no.
I got to find a...
Calacanis tells me to get to a different...
Calacanis is talking to you?
Yeah, he talks to me.
No, he used to talk to me, but
he doesn't talk to me anymore.
He's just telling me what I'm doing wrong.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's talking.
That's Jason talking.
Yeah, that's Jason.
And the main thing he's telling me is
to get off MailChimp.
Yeah, a lot of people tell me get
off MailChimp.
Yeah, well...
8008 from Kevin McLaughlin.
He's the Archduke of Luna.
He says, BSA, big and small, saved them
all.
Breast cancer awareness.
Oh, I didn't know that.
I don't know it either.
John Tomczak in Royal Oak, Michigan, 7878.
North Nexus.
North C Nexus donation.
7878.
Okay, we'll make it that.
Dame Ellen in Montgomery, Alabama, 7777.
This is a happy birthday to my illustrious
brother.
Sir Duggett up at the sharp shovel who
turned seven squared on Tuesday.
49, yes.
She needs a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale, 7575.
Nicholas Leary in Columbus, Ohio, 7272.
Derek Johnson in Grandview Height, I think, or
Heights in Ohio, 6767, which is something.
It's their donation, the new donation, 67.
Chad Hewitt in Folsom, California, 6440, which is
66 boobs and 46 books.
I'm sorry.
Yes, 66 books, 40 authors.
Yeah, I thought it said 66 boobs.
Hardly.
And 40 authors, which would be the same
thing.
No.
Matthew Janik in Novi, Michigan, 6581.
You don't know enough authors.
Matthew Elroy.
Matthew Janik needs a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
Matthew Elroy.
Wait, wait, wait.
This is an important donation amount, 6581.
The amount is a petition to include 1981
in Generation X since we became adults in
the 1900s.
Hmm.
I'm not even officially anymore in Gen X,
so I can't make a ruling on that.
Sorry, Matthew.
Another Matthew, coincidentally, Elwhart in Weatherford, Texas, 6006,
small boobs.
Matt B.
in, I guess it's, I don't know what
the, where is it?
I would say Asley.
Asley, Texas, 6006.
I guess, yeah, another de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
And curiously, Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, 6006.
James Springer in Ann Arbor, Michigan, 5555.
5555.
Has a very, has a very nasty note.
Problem is, you two need an editor.
I have to sit through the seventh grade
humor and Adam's mocking voices.
Give us all a break and do what
you do best, media analysis.
Too much wasted time.
Who's mocking voices now?
Yeah, but I don't have that one voice
that you have, which is a classic.
It's a classic.
It's a good one.
Frank, we have to stop.
You know what?
I think this guy, James Springer in Ann
Arbor, Michigan at 5555 donation is right.
We're wasting time.
We waste a lot of time and we
spend way too much time mocking people.
Yes.
And we should probably cut it out and
be much more mature.
Okay, you go first.
James Cepeda, Cepeda, I think in Carpenterville, Illinois,
5291.
That's serious.
Sean Murphy in South Lyon, Michigan, 5272.
Bob Newell in Penfield, Pennsylvania, 5250.
Happy 18th anniversary.
He's ahead of the group.
And that came in as a check.
Forrest Martin, 5005.
Matthew Sycora in New Richmond, Wisconsin.
These are all the $50 donors.
There's not a lot of them, but we
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Name and location only.
Starting with Michael and then Alexa Delgado in
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Not looking for any special treatment, he writes.
Just Ox Utherix, Utherix, that's all.
Okay.
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Wow, what a name!
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It's a great name!
It should be this jockey.
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Dame Knight, our last supporter in Edmonds, Washington.
I want to thank her and everybody else
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I think, at the moment.
Uh, everyone who's helped show, uh, 1810.
And we're getting to 1811, which will be
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And then we get to the War of
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Appreciate that.
We did get a note from, uh, from
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And it's time now for the meetups.
No Agenda Meetups!
Yeah, baby.
Connection is protection.
You go to a No Agenda meetup, you
will make long-lasting relationships.
People who will be your first responders in
an emergency.
And Sir Scott the Jew sent this North
Idaho Sandy Brigade meetup report in.
I must have missed it somehow, so he
re-sent it.
And here we go.
Hanging out here once again on the mezzanine
at the Trails Inn Brewery in Coeur d
'Alene.
This is the North Idaho Sandy Brigade and
Sir Scott the Jew recording this meetup report
on our brand new PodMobile that we got
for our hyper-local podcast covering North Idaho.
NoIDShow.com.
Thanks, Adam, for the inspiration.
This is Sir Donald Firebottle, Secretary General of
Greater Idaho.
Certain counties would rather be in Idaho.
That's why I claimed the moniker.
Grabbed the gold-digging cowgirl hair.
Hey, Adam, keep shooting up that tent.
Don't let him stop your free speech.
Wait, I mean freedom of speech.
In the morning, this is Jack.
I can weld, but I can't read clock.
My father-in-law is here for his
first meetup ever, but he won't say anything.
Does that make him a douchebag?
This is Jason here in Coeur d'Alene,
Idaho, enjoying some good broods and some good
pizza with a bunch of good people.
This is Rachel from Post Falls.
I'm here with my smoking hot husband and
my four-day-old human resource.
In the morning, this is Brian from Post
Falls, a spook with the federal government.
Please call your senator.
I'm about to have to work for free
starting on Monday.
Good God.
Lacey from Post Falls, Idaho, recently de-douched
and smelling fresh.
Hey, my name is Megan McElmore.
I was everyone's server tonight at Trails End
Brewery.
It was really fun.
Everyone was super nice and super great.
And also, I'm 20 years old.
Everyone always asks me, hey, what does this
beer taste like?
And what does this cider taste like?
Man, I have no clue.
Hey, Error, why is Adam so mean to
John?
Boogers!
There you go.
Thank you very much, Sir Scott the Jew,
for your report.
We have the Happy Birthday, No Agenda meetup
taking place almost as we speak in about
an hour or so.
419 Arizona time, Canyon's Crown in Tucson, Arizona.
Dame Beth getting the party started early.
On Saturday, the Los Altos meetup kicks off
at 4 o'clock at State Street Market
in Los Altos, California.
The TMI EVAC Zone will have their meetup
on Sunday, and they sent a promo.
Hey, Dad, would you ever watch CNN or
go to a No Agenda meetup?
Well, the boys watch CNN, so we don't
have to.
And a meetup is like a party, so
meetup.
In fact, let's make it a No Agenda,
Would You Rather meetup and ask each other
questions.
Join us this Sunday at 333 in Camp
Hill.
And on Monday, in Berlin, the ITM Slays
Berlin meetup, 733 Berlin time, Volks Bar at
Rosa Luxemburg Platz in Berlin, Germany.
Tal from Berlin will be hosting that, and
we hope that he sends us a meetup
report with their server at the moment.
Still coming up in October, Alfreda George on
the 30th and Leiden in the Netherlands on
the 31st.
Those are just a few of the many
No Agenda meetups taking place around the world.
Zurich, Switzerland on November the 15th.
It's everywhere, these things.
Go to noagendameetups.com, where you can find
all the meetups listed on a handy calendar.
You know what it is?
If you can't find one near you, if
you're living someplace where no one has scheduled
a meetup, start one yourself.
Guaranteed, easy, and always a party.
♪ Sometimes you wanna go hang out ♪
♪ With all the nights and days ♪
♪ You wanna be where you want to
be ♪ ♪ Triggered or held to blame
♪ ♪ You wanna be where everybody feels
the same ♪ ♪ It's like that ♪
As we wind down the show, we still
have three, three wonderful end of show mixes
to come, and these will be published this
time.
We'll be putting them into the Clips archive
and of course, crediting the end of show
mixers as always.
Before that, we have John's tip of the
day and ISO time now, which is the
last clip we pay on the show at
the very end.
John, you have two IC.
Would you like to go first?
Why don't you go first?
That way I can defer.
That's showbiz, baby.
I kind of like that one myself.
And then always going back to the classic
archive.
Ooh, people really love that.
He's the master.
He's the master, I tell you.
We just did one of him.
He's the master.
Okay, so I got Trump.
Oh, that's music to my ears.
I love that sound.
Sound of money.
Yeah.
What was the sound of the show?
Yeah.
Then I have our buddy.
This is Kennedy.
Well, pickle my bunions.
That's what I call a good show.
Oh man, why did you cut it off?
That was it.
It doesn't end nicely.
Well, pickle my bunions.
That's what I call a good show.
It's not a great edit.
Who edited that?
Did you edit that?
It's the way he talks.
No.
I know you like the more religious style
where you go show-a.
Yeah, show-a.
Exactly.
Show-a.
That's okay.
I'll accept it.
Bunions it is.
But first, before we do anything, it is
time for John C.
Dvorak's tip of the day.
Great advice for you and me.
Just a tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.
All right.
Here's a drinking tip.
We all need one of those.
So there's a product out there.
Jim Beam has bought up most of the
distilleries, a lot of these big brands.
And they're putting them out again in new
labels.
And they're trying to beef up the line
of what's called the olds.
The big trend, the olds.
The olds, like vintage olds?
Well, olds like old granddad, old hole overhaul,
old crow.
And so I'm bringing in this one that
just came out called Crow 86, which is
a bourbon.
And it's $11.90. So it's a cheap
bourbon.
And it is excellent for just one.
And the label is dynamite because it just
says Crow, big letters, Crow 86.
And you can get it almost.
I mean, this is one of the problem
I have with what Beam is doing is
that they brought out something called Old Crow
Reserve about six months ago, which was a
stunner.
And I was going to mention it, but
then they took it off.
It was just one month and they took
it off the market.
So if you see Old Crow Reserve, get
that.
But Crow 86 is quite good for the
11 bucks.
This is a cheap bourbon.
Another cheap alcohol.
I'm trying to keep the price down for
people so they can give us better donations.
So it's just a practical thing.
Now, I want to mention something.
So I'm watching some of these characters that
are doing it.
This is for people.
You ever want to professionally or look like
you maybe know how to taste professionally?
Because I got scolded for making the same
mistake that I'm going to describe.
When you're tasting in a competition with professionals.
Now, is this for wine or anything?
This I'm going to make the jump.
It's for spirits.
Spirits.
It's harder to do the spirits than it
is the wine.
But with wine, you'll see when you're tasting
professionally with wine tasters at all pros, they're
swirling and swirling the glass.
And you get, you know, you see it
at the restaurants, the guys swirling the glass
and a lot of them slurp, make a
slurping sound, which is kind of gauche, but
they do it.
Gauche.
It's gauche.
Slurp the wine so you get it aerated
in your mouth.
So with spirits, I did this because I
had, I was in one of the.
Yeah, you're a spirit swiller.
I was, I swirled and I just got
the glares.
These are professionals that are in the industry,
in the distilling business.
A lot of people from Scotland and elsewhere.
And you do not swirl when you're professionally
tasting a spirit.
You don't swirl spirits.
If you do, you're an idiot.
And so when you swirl spirits, what happens
is it just brings up straight alcohol.
You don't really get to smell what's going
on with the product.
You get hammered.
You don't get hammered.
You spit the stuff out anyway.
The point is, is that you don't, you
can't evaluate properly if you're swirling and swirling
spirits because that's what you do with wine.
So I'm watching some of these videos of
these guys tasting the Crow 86.
And there's two guys that seem very knowledgeable
about all the details of the flavors, but
they're both got the little glasses and they're
swirling away like crazy.
Stop it.
So stop swirling your spirits.
Well, there you go.
Find them all at tipoftheday.net.
John's tip of the day.
I think that is a good tip.
Stop swirling your spirits, people.
You're making yourself look dumb.
Is that basically the message?
Yes.
Yes, that's the message.
Exactly.
So I have no idea what is next
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It seems to be a mystery today, but
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Something always does.
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