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She's all jacked up about the action hoe. Adam Curry.
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John C. Devorah. It's Sunday, May 17th, 2026. This is
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your award-winning Get My Nation Media assassination episode 1869. This
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is no agenda. Doing the Bangaranga! Broadcasting live from the
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heart of the Texas O'Connor. In the morning, everybody, I'm
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Adam Kupf. And from Refinery Row, where everybody's happy that
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Bill Cassidy's finally out, I'm John C. Dvorak. *In the
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morn-* Hey, man, the gloves are coming off. Gloves are
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coming off. I don't care how, you know, if they
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cut your chest open, the gloves are off. I cannot
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believe. that for 18 years, One thing has been my
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segment. One thing. You need to come in. With a
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series of four clips about Eurovision. Yeah, after you poached
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and poached and poached, I got sick of it. What
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did I poach? You know, everything. I've... Well, we do
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this every single year. We're always very- And we nailed
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it again. We did? I think we forgot to nail
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it. We completely forgot to predict. But okay. It's a
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good thing. But okay. I will, yes, because we probably
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would have corrected, predicted incorrectly. But I will relent. I
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will allow you. graciously. to roll out whatever you think
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is important about this year's Eurovision Song Contest. Well, it's
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funny you should ask. Now... First of all, this is
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the 70th anniversary. Big deal. I mean, 75 would have
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been better, but yeah, yeah. Yep, yep. 70 is a
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big deal. Yeah, 75 is better. 100 is even better.
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But 70, you know, you know, it's... Now, since you're
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doing this segment, first of all, did we have any
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transsexuals this year in the contest? No, they were all
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transsexuals. Yeah? Okay. So let's say that this is a
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PBS report. or I'm sorry, NPR report. So I thought
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it was kind of entertaining because they actually... in an
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offhanded way predicted the winner even though it was the
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long shot in the way it was presented. But let's
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listen to it. And the guys, they're very enthusiastic. Let's
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go with Eurovision 70 Years. That's clip number one. Let
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the- The Eurovision Song Contest begins! 70 years old still
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as glamorous as ever the final song contest is in
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full swing in vienna you heard three of the early
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entries denmark germany and israel and it's said to be
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the non-sporting event with the biggest global audience so if
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you're not listening to news hour you are probably watching
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it or is this npr Yeah. With a British guy?
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Yeah. You're doing both at the same time. Let's speak
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now to someone who is going to do that. William
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Lee Adams, BBC journalist, founder of WeWeBlogs, which is the
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world's most followed independent Eurovision channel. What kind of blog?
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WeeWee Blogs. WeeWee Blogs. Okay. He's in Vienna. Hi, William.
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Hey, good evening, James. Good to have you on the
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program. What, nearly two hours since it all started. What
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are the highlights so far? Oh, wait a minute. Well,
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the room is... This is the BBC World Service, of
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course. Yes, thank you. I knew it couldn't be NPR.
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I just thought it was so lame it had to
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be NPR, but now that I think about it, you're
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right. Yeah. Okay, onward. Whenever you bring in the guy
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who writes the WeWe blog. Yeah, the Wee Wee blog
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is, I think, even beneath NPR. Very bouncy and very
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buoyant. A lot of that is... down to Australia, Delta
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Goodrum. She is going for gold and wearing gold. Yes,
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yes, yes, I'm stopping. Oh my God, we're never going
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to get through this. Australia? The Euderian Europe? Oh, we
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go through this every year. You might as well add
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Israel and say what? They're not in this, are they?
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Because they're not in Europe. Yes, but it is the
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Euro... The Eurovision. Yeah, Euro standing for Europe. No, that
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just means Eurovision. Like, you can see Europe. You have
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a vision of Europe. It doesn't mean that you have
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to be in Europe. Oh, then how do the United
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States do in this competition? We don't. Look, we have
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the voice. We invented all of these. these things. Okay,
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well, if they drop the United States, we'll drop ourselves.
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How about South America? How did Brazil do? Every year
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we go through this. What? Every year. They could, everyone
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can participate if they want. They just have to join
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the European Broadcasting Union, which costs money. Oh, there it
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is. It's like the Olympics. you know it's like then
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your country wins and then it's all hosted in your
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country and there's a lot of money involved sponsors all
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kinds of stuff everywhere 7 000 swarovski crystals she sort
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of looks like liquid champagne walking down the stage now
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i will say this is the commentary that I expect
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from Eurovision. 7,000 Swarovski crystals. She looks like champagne coming
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down the steps. It's wonderful. Now, her song is called
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Eclipse. This is about alignment. And we can take some
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notes here because this is how the podcast award should
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run that you were going to organize, that we were
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going to be the... The still in play. You know,
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that's a connection that two people have that's really special
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and can lead to sort of romantic entanglement. Now, she
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herself is a cancer survivor. She's raised more than one
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hundred and twenty million dollars for cancer research. And so
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this song is about timing, you know, and she told
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me. When I sing, I'm singing for all the struggles
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I've had, all the struggles I've endured and survived. And
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it's just beautiful. She rises into the air on an
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elevator borrowed from Beyonce, the American pop star. Oh, no.
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Which emerges from her piano. So she's in the air
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in gold. There's a sun behind her. She looks like
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a gorgeous Renaissance painting with the sun being that halo.
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It's just stunning. Well, you've painted the... picture on the
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radio which is what we yes that was pure theater
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of the mind thank you we blog we'd like you
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to have done which is wonderful but tell us about
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the other favorites i mean she's one of them finland
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greece although i think you had a kind of bulgaria
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have come in at the last minute for you have
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they oh absolutely the contest really is a two horse
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race between Australia and Finland. Ha ha! Oh, how wrong
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he was. Well, you did mention Bulgaria. We should have
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sent Spencer Pratt. to the Eurovision. He would have swept
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it. He would have. All right, now we go to
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the I put "Ug" clip. I put "Ug" because this
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is a real groaner, this clip. But Bulgaria is lurking
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on the outside. Lurking. Now, the Bulgarian singer Dara, she
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used to suffer from a compulsion where she couldn't leave
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her house unless her makeup was perfect. And I don't
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say this in a joking way, it was clinical. If
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her eyebrows weren't painted on perfectly, she would experience so
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much anxiety. Oh, give this guy the hook. There is
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a traditional ceremony in Bulgaria, Kerkara, I believe, and they
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expel evil spirits. So on stage, she has people with
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bad makeup sitting in chairs, there's plastic on their face,
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and they perform a dance to drive out the anxiety,
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to drive out the evil. But she does this with
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a box that looks like an office. You're not aware
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of the audience, even though there are tens of thousands
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of people out there. It's creating a music video universe
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on a stage. It is remarkable. And just to close
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off the circle about the favorites, you've got Finland. My
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goodness. If Australia is about emotional connection with the singer
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and the audience. Finland is about emotional disconnection because you
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have a man and a woman on stage. The woman
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is 56-year-old violinist Linda Lampinius, and she's deliberately icy. She
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doesn't look at anyone. She's avoiding Pete. She says that
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she is like a flamethrower, Lika Heiten in Finnish, because
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she'd warm up and people would be drawn to her,
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but then she would just get cold as ice and
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walk away. And so their dynamic, his fire, her ice,
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it creates smoke. Why are you torturing us with this?
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I've never done this. Can I get some of President
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Trump's bleach to drink, please? Well, I think it's about
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time we got to the nitty gritty of this piece
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of shit. Okay. And this is it. The ridiculous over-analysis
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of stupid acts. Oh, the woman has anxiety attacks because
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her makeup isn't correct. And she's the one who won.
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Yeah. Yes. because of bad makeup. I mean, this whole
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thing is ludicrous. And every year we talk about it,
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we do normally predict with some accuracy, I might say,
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even though we would have missed it this year because
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who would have booked this one, Gary? I know, we
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were too busy looking at the news. Well, we were
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excised from the prediction by the cosmic forces because it
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was impossible for us to predict. That's my thing. thinking
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all right and that's in line with the kind of
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stupidity that we're listening to now so let's go on
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with clip three well he talked about anxiety earlier there
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was a bit of anxiety quite a lot of anxiety
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i guess around israel's participation five countries boycotting it how
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did their entry perform how did it all go down
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Indeed. Yeah, I think... What does that even mean? Here's
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what I think. If I'm not correct, if I'm not
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mistaken. The Euro- Night career. If I'm not corrupted.
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If I'm not correct, then I'll be correct because that's
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rule one. I'm always correct. I believe that these broadcasters
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are all public broadcasters. I think that's part of the
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hook. And that's why you've got Israel has public broadcasting.
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Australia has public broadcasting. Canada, are they in this thing?
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Wouldn't surprise me. They've all got public broadcasting. And I
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think you have to be a public broadcaster. So this
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is kind of, this is their Super Bowl where they
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all get to, you know, get drunk. and hang out
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and party. because it's kind of their party. I think
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that's what's behind all this. But so how's that make
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him competitive? *laughs* and jeering in the audience. But this
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year, we didn't have the same amount of booing, if
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any. Certainly in the final, I didn't hear any this
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evening. A lot of that comes down to the subject
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matter. The song that the Israeli actor Noam Betten is
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singing is Michelle. Michelle is a woman. and they had
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a toxic relationship, and you can't really read that politically.
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Whereas in the past years, people imbued meaning into the
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songs. For instance, in 2024, the original title of Israel's
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entry was October Rain. Many people interpreted that to be
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a story about the October 7th attacks, and the following
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year, their singer, she actually survived. the October 7th attacks,
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she herself hid under dead bodies. Now, that's not a
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political statement. That's what she's endured. But people imbued it
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with meaning, suggesting, oh, Israel chose an act because they
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wanted to court sympathy on the international stage. But again,
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we need to remember, art is one of the times
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of the zeitgeist. You know, what is personal? What is
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political? These subjects are often very gray. Hold on. I
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have to subscribe to the RSS feed of the WeWe
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blog now. This is so awesome. unbelievable. Yes, it's unbelievable.
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You could have done one clip of this guy. I'm
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sorry that I'm belaboring it because I hope this is
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the last time we ever talk about it. No, no,
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no. I mean, I was gonna do one clip and
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then play snippets of the two songs, the one and
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two. That's all I was gonna do. That's what we
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do with the signal. Well, you got usurped. Indeed. And
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pushed. I don't know if it's a good thing for
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the show. I think it's hurting the show. Indeed, and...
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It probably is. Let's turn to the... the voting because
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that for a lot of people that that's always been
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one of the highlights not just the singing but the
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voting and it's changed this year to give a better
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balance between the musical juries and the general public Yeah,
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you're right. There were two big changes. One change is
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that the professional juries in each country, they've been increased.
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So last year there were five jurors. This year, there
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are seven jurors, and they have to include more people
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under 30 or 25, basically making them younger and more
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diverse. The other big change is that rather than voting
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20 times per person, which was allowed in previous years,
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you could only vote 10 times. Now, this is off
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the back of the revelation following last year's Eurovision. that
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an Israeli government agency was involved in buying ads on
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YouTube and other social media platforms calling on voters to
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vote for Israel 20 times. Now, the reason voters can
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vote multiple times is because the European Union... I pulled
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this stunt at a, uh... Hello. chili cook-off for the
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People's Choice Awards. Wait, you bought votes? Well, we had
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a couple of... of uh chorus girls at the booth
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and talking everyone into turning all their votes into our
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jar. So they would sweet talk these guys. How many
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votes you got? Yeah, we got 10 votes. Just give
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us all 10 votes. It would be so nice. And
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so we ended up getting a lot of extra votes
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using that trick. But it's idiotic if you think about
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it. You should have one vote. You get to vote
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for the one you think's the best. You don't get
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10 votes and give them all to one guy. I
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can't even discuss this. with you. The European Broadcasting Union
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wants to spread the love. It wants people to be
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engaged with all cultures, all musical cultures. I'm letting it
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play out out of respect for you. 18 years of
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respect. That music comes from friends or from foes, but
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it seems to have backfired in the last edition where
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you had advertisements saying, no, don't spread the love. Give
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it all to us. So this year that's been reduced.
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to 10. We'll have to wait and see if that
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has any sort of impact on the results. We're almost
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at the end. I think 21st group at the moment,
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five ladies from Cyprus performing. Any sort of surprises? Any
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artists that stood out for you that aren't among the
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favourites? No, no. I'm all the way now. They'll be
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performing next to last in 20... Oh my goodness. The
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song is called "Choke Me" which is very provocative and
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a lot of people were offended. There was a petition
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to have it removed. But the singer has explained through
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her staging she is saying "Choke Me" to a phantom.
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Oh. "Choke Me." How come "Choke Me" didn't win? Let's
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just listen very quickly to the "Island" Rayleigh entry. Michelle,
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we'll just listen to a little bit here. We'll jump
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around. I'm doing this so that Spotify will take this
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episode off of their podcast features. Here we go. Okay,
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that's rejected. And here is the winner. Bangaranga! Let's see
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if I'm winner voted for this. No, I can see
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it. Drop! Yeah. Alright, let's leave it. Bangaranga, here we
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go. Oh, I see. A little bit of Bollywood's in
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there. Yeah, I get it. Kids like that. It's great.
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All right, 15 minutes of the show. Very good. Very
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good. Yeah. Very, very good. Okay, well, that's the end
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of that. It is. Let me, let me, let's go
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into some Trump hate. Ooh, yeah, we haven't done some
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proper Trump hate recently. That's true. Since I stopped getting
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the TikTok clips. Well, this is a semi-mainstream media Trump
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hate. And it started with... Let me see. with the
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chattering class, as we call it, the chattering class. Listen
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to how Megyn Kelly introduces her guest. All right. We're
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going to bring in our very first guest, very first
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guest ever here on the MK show. That's the podfather
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of our show, Glenn Greenwald, I speak of. He's a
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Pulitzer Prize winning journalist. and host of System Update on
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Substack. Help me understand this. I mean, it's one thing
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never to ask me back on the show. I mean,
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it's pretty... Well, you were... I thought you were an
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ungrateful guest. What do you mean ungrateful guest? So she
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has Glenn Greenwald on the show. He knows the podfather
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somehow. Well, he's her podfather. I used to be her
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podfather. I can be the podfather, but I'm not her
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podfather. Okay. And so, Megyn Kelly, captured by her audience.
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Glenn Greenwald, he never got uncaptured. I think he's always
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been kind of the same. Self-hating Jew. Uh, they, uh,
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they just have to lay into it. I thought this
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was, uh... Career ending. I didn't know this took place,
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but I'm glad you got this clip. Oh, no, she
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had Tucker on. She got Glenn Greenwald on. It's fantastic.
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There was an admission on. The Iran war, which jumped
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out at me, and it might to you too. Here
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it is in Sat 7. By the way, so that
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show, here it is in slot seven. And then you
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get a three-second pause. Please appreciate your no agenda show
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when you hear these things. You know, this is not
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pro. Me and it might to you too. Here it
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is in SOT7. We're doing it to help Israel and
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to help Saudi Arabia and to help Qatar and UAE
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and, you know, Kuwait and other countries. Bahrain. It also
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helps China. We're actually, I told him today, I said,
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you know, we're helping you and we're helping you in
18:19
another way. because I don't think China wants Iran to
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have a nuclear weapon either. I said... Don't go crazy.
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You don't need them having a nuclear weapon either. What
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did he say? Well, he's not going to respond to
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much. He's a pretty cool guy. He's not going to
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say, oh, gee, that's a good point. What's he going
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to do? Oh, I mean, What a wonderful point. You
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think he agreed? That was the impression. I don't think
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he wants him to. No, he would like to see
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it end. But he's been good about it, you know.
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So there it is. I mean, lest there was any
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doubt, it's the first thing in the answer. We did
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it to help Israel. We're doing it to help Israel.
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He named other countries. He has said the world can't
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have Iran having a nuclear weapon. But just to say
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that is so controversial, that we're doing it to help
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Israel. We know. We know that. We've said that many
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times. And then you get called an anti-Semite. But that's
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not anti-Semitic. It is a fact. You heard it from
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the president of the United States himself. He thinks it's
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also helping some of the Gulf Arab states. Fine. That's
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not controversial. You can say that. But prior to the
19:24
president saying it himself explicitly, you weren't allowed to say
19:26
that other piece of it or you were called an
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anti-Semite. Why? She's so uptight about this. Call me an
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anti-Semite. You couldn't say this. You're a podcaster. You can
19:37
say whatever you want to say. Why do you care?
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I don't know, it's weird. Here comes Greenwald. This was
19:46
a movement that was calling itself America First. And then
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you have Trump saying, oh yeah, this will work. It's
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kind of helping us. We don't want them to have
19:55
a nuclear weapon. But yeah, we're helping Israel. Get rid
19:57
of their big enemy.
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I think he editorialized that a little bit. These people
20:05
are insane about this stuff. And so the way they
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take the president's statement is, oh, it's about Israel. Oh,
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yeah. Yeah, just helping Israel get rid of their big
20:15
enemy. Of course, Trump mentioned a whole bunch of other
20:18
countries, but Glenn Greenwald has an answer for that, too.
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And also, when we talk about these Persian Gulf states,
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what we mean are Persian Gulf dictatorships, Arab dictatorships that
20:28
have extreme levels of human rights abuses that we claim
20:32
to be so offended when they appear in Iran. You
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think protesters fare any better in Dubai or in Riyadh
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or in Doha? There's no one protesting in Dubai. I
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think they're all pretty happy with things in Dubai. Riyadh,
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are they protesting? Should they be protesting? Am I missing
20:51
something? I don't know. Maybe they should. In Bahrain or
20:56
Kuwait? No. Or then Iran? No, they don't. And this
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idea, you know, and also the Strait of Hormuz, Trump
21:03
himself said at the beginning out of frustration, look, if
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you're not willing to go to a war with Iran
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to open the Strait of Hormuz, we don't have to
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do it. We don't need the Strait of Hormuz, which
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is true. We don't get oil from the Strait of
21:14
Hormuz. China does, and the Gulf states need the Strait
21:17
of Hormuz to sell oil. But Trump is in bed
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with these Persian Gulf dictators. He loves them too. They're
21:24
extremely rich. They have a kind of shared aesthetic with
21:27
this very ostentatious, gold-laden kind of, you know. Trump is
21:32
now a Middle Eastern dictator, you see. This is where
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it's gone. But you do have the taste for gold,
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I have to say. Totally. I mean, if you go
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look at that BBC video of me in 2004, I
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had the same thing. But yet I never felt like
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a Middle East dictator was my style. This gold-laden kind
21:51
of wealth expression. He loves them. His family is in
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bed with the Persian Gulf states. In bed. And he's
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very close to them. He listens to them and obviously
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to Israel. And I don't think these are good things
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for our country. Why are we prosecuting a war that's
22:08
harming Americans for the benefits of Israel or these Persian
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Gulf dictators? and on the question of china yeah i
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mean opening up the strait of hormuz is far more
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in china's than ours the problem is is that the
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only reason the strait of hormuz is closed is because
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israel is because the united states joined israel and attacking
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iran it was perfectly open the strait of hormuz was
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prior to this war for forever perfectly forever closed now
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closed now because it was a response to the attack
22:32
on Iran. And I think the rest of the world
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is like, you caused this problem. It's your responsibility to
22:37
fix it. And I think it's a reasonable view for
22:39
most countries to have. So I played these clips. First
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of all, I thought it was kind of funny. But
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second of all, they are now so much like the
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mainstream media. They don't really look at anything further than
22:53
the surface. I think they're watching MS now and CNN
22:56
and Fox probably to get their talking points almost. I
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mean, this whole trip to China, as you, I mean,
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it was ridiculous. It made no sense. Everything was wrong.
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It's stupid. Trump came back with nothing. Let's go to
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MS now. When Donald Trump was running for president, you
23:16
may remember this. He had a question he loved to
23:19
ask, a particular thought experiment about a tête-à-tête between Vice
23:23
President Harris and President Xi. And it went like this.
23:28
Kamala Harris is so incompetent. Can you imagine her dealing
23:32
with President Xi of China? Can you imagine her dealing
23:36
with President Xi? Can you imagine with President Xi? Can
23:40
you imagine her negotiating with President Xi of China? Can
23:43
you imagine her standing with President Xi of China? By
23:46
the way, nice supercut. I don't think so. Can you
23:50
imagine? He said that so many times. I mean, Trump
23:53
spent that campaign railing about China's influence in the world,
23:57
and he repeatedly insisted that he alone was the only
24:00
candidate tough enough to go toe-to-toe with President Xi of
24:04
China. He was the only person who could show Xi
24:07
who's boss. Well, Donald Trump just finished his first state
24:10
visit to China in his second term, and how did
24:13
it go? did big bad donald trump stand up to
24:17
the chinese leader i mean this is exactly the same
24:20
as megan and glenn there's no analysis they're just doing
24:25
hot takes like punch lines yeah that's a good point
24:28
that's just a hot take yeah and so let's get
24:31
the exact right word for it ambassador mcfall let me
24:33
start with you ambassador mcfall here we go this guy's
24:36
good outline some of the biggest issues that were at
24:39
stake during this visit we talked about this late last
24:42
night when it was the trip was still a bit
24:43
ongoing but as you looked it's now over what did
24:46
trump and really the united states get out of this
24:49
trip well what do you think john what do you
24:51
think they got out of this to get anything out
24:53
of this trip anything at all anything mrs anything um
24:57
i think they got something out of it I think
25:00
the Boeing, impossible sales of Boeing jets was a big
25:06
deal, especially if it was going to be 200 of
25:08
them or more. Yeah. That was about it, seems to
25:12
me. And they got to meet, and then Trump got
25:15
to show off to all these our own business guys
25:17
that he knows this guy, she, and they can introduce
25:21
him to him. Hey, you can meet the guy. You
25:23
meet him, shake his hand, and we're all good to
25:25
go. I think that's a big deal. There's actually more.
25:29
But yeah, there was that. There was some soybeans. Always
25:31
some soybeans. Oh, there's always soybeans. Gotta do some soybeans.
25:34
But let's hear what Ambassador McFaul thinks. Chen, you just
25:39
summarized it brilliantly. That was a fantastic laydown. And I'm
25:43
so glad you reminded everybody about what he said he
25:46
was going to do with China. Remember, when he first
25:49
ran for president, it was all about China. China's eating
25:52
our lunch. China's taking our jobs. They're doing all these
25:56
horrible things to us. And he used in that phrase,
25:59
that clip you just showed, communist China, right? You never
26:03
heard him use the word communist once on this trip.
26:07
And I just think this flip is remarkable. And I
26:11
hope his voters noticed it. I hope Republicans noticed it
26:17
because for decades. Notice what? The Republican Party was always
26:20
saying Democrats are weak on China. We're going to be
26:24
tough. And now he is completely flipped. You could not
26:28
do a bigger flip. So again, he do. Well, he
26:31
he was just nice. He didn't say you're always bitching
26:36
and moaning that he's not nice and he has no
26:38
decorum. And he goes over there and he becomes nice.
26:41
And now they're complaining about that. It's all they do
26:44
is complain. It gets better. I think an acronym you
26:48
could use to summarize not just this meeting, but everything
26:51
leading up to it is make China great again. When
26:55
you look at the impact of the Trump president. Make
26:58
China great again. Trump screwed it up, only made China
27:02
stronger. The real winner has been China. And the loser
27:07
has been America's allies and America itself. And what's really
27:12
extraordinary about it, Ali, is President Trump was elected beginning
27:17
in 2016 in large part because he was really one
27:23
of the first U.S. leaders who recognized the way that
27:27
China's entry to the WTO was contributing to the hollowing
27:31
out of the U.S. middle class. Wow, the very same
27:34
people who told him that he was racist and he
27:37
was going to kill people by withdrawing from all of
27:40
these organizations. All they do is counter-programming all the time.
27:45
One of his promises to American Rust Belt workers was
27:48
he was going to fix it. But instead, what we
27:52
see he's doing is bullying reporters, beating up on America's
27:57
closest friends and allies. Oh, no. And frankly, seeming cowed
28:02
by China. Again. No. Well, let's go to the liberal
28:10
intellectual elites, an acronym. will go to the liberal intellectual
28:15
elites who everybody listens to because their pod is by
28:20
far one of the most important and smart, smart tech
28:26
pods. It also, I mean, it's a reminder of the
28:29
stark contrast in the first Trump term. I'm sorry, this
28:32
isn't the pod, but it's one of the hosts of
28:34
the pod. What pod are we talking about? We're talking
28:37
about the pivot pod. And how the business community treated.
28:40
Kara Schwisher. You see, she gets to be on CNN
28:42
now that she has a show on CNN. You see,
28:44
that's how it works. Yeah, she wants to live forever.
28:46
And what we're seeing now, I mean, so many people
28:47
were critical of that inauguration seating chart. But this is
28:52
kind of evidence of probably a big driving factor for
28:56
that. So they could go on trips like this. Well,
28:59
as I said, it's a coin-operated presidency. And they figured
29:01
out very quickly that you put money in and you
29:04
get it. Coin-operated presidency. She's going to explain it. Oh,
29:08
that's cute. She's going to explain it. Boy, that's going
29:10
to catch on. All the kids are talking about it.
29:13
And they figured out very quickly that you put money
29:16
in and you get stuff out. Like Andreessen Horowitz spending
29:19
the most money towards the midterms. They understand it's a
29:22
very small amount of money to spend $115 million because they
29:27
get so much more. They get billions and billions out
29:29
of it. And so they've sort of figured out it's
29:31
a cheap way to get what you want. And that's
29:33
what they're doing. And they will continue to do that
29:35
because shareholders, as I've said over and over again, are
29:38
their biggest goal. And that's fine, I suppose. Shareholders are
29:42
a goal? That's pretty explicit. Now, she's just waffling. You
29:46
know, without Galloway, she's no good. She really isn't. Then
29:50
she is just, she is icky. She's gone and she's
29:55
like a single now. You know, she's like one of
29:57
the people that were in the Rolling Stones.
30:00
decided to become a single act. And so she's... When
30:04
Charlie Watts did his jazz album. So she quit the
30:08
group to become a single because she's such a demand
30:11
for it. And so this dog of this I want
30:14
to live forever thing, which is overproducing, costs a lot
30:18
of money, is going to cost CNN. She's going to
30:23
disappear from the scene after that thing, after they analyze
30:27
that sucker. So we'll see what happens. All right, so
30:30
now here they are together on the pod. He brought
30:32
17 CEOs with him and three diplomats. Flying billionaires on
30:37
a plane to China to get shit seems... Oh, by
30:40
the way, she has a really foul mouth in this
30:42
one. Problematic. Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York
30:45
Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher.
30:48
And I'm Scott Galloway. President Trump. Oh, can we start
30:51
the show like that? I'm Adam Curry. And you go,
30:53
and I'm John C. Dvorak. I think we should start...
30:56
Let's do it. Yeah, okay. everybody's doing the bangaranga and
31:04
broadcasting live from the heart of the texas hill country
31:06
here in fema region number six in the morning everybody
31:09
i'm adam curry and i'm john c dvorak excellent excellent
31:17
i'm kara swisher and i'm sky galloway president trump and
31:21
uh chinese president xi uh have met for a little
31:24
over two hours right now and attended a state banquet
31:27
to start off their two-day summit in china in g's
31:31
opening toast at the banquet g said achieving the great
31:34
rejuvenation of the chinese nation and making america great again
31:37
can go hand in hand he's snickering at trump on
31:40
his back though the white house said both sides agreed
31:43
that the straight of her moves must remain open she
31:47
warned that trump that mishandling taiwan would cause clashes and
31:50
put the entire relationship in great jeopardy what just happened
31:55
oh it ended well well there you go One more.
31:59
One more from these Jim Oaks. It's short. President Trump,
32:02
however, does not appear to be overly concerned. Let's listen
32:04
to how he answered a reporter's question as he left
32:06
the White House for his China trip. When you're negotiating
32:10
with Iran, Mr. President, to what extent are American financial
32:13
situations motivating you to make a deal? Not even a
32:17
little bit. The only thing that matters when I'm talking
32:20
about Iran, they can't have a nuclear weapon. I don't
32:23
think about American financial situation. I don't think about anybody.
32:27
I think about one thing. We cannot let Iran have
32:31
a nuclear weapon. That's all. That's the only thing that
32:34
Mono did. Oh, wow. That was some quote. That was
32:38
like an ad. He cut an ad for them. That
32:40
was astonishing, I have to say. I mean, it's what
32:43
I think he thinks. And this nuclear weapon thing, we're
32:46
less safe now than we were doing the Obama days
32:48
when we had most of the enriched uranium in a
32:50
deal and the state of her moves was open so
32:53
any thoughts about what he's doing here why or he's
32:57
just just an old adult man who just says whatever's
32:59
on his mind so this was indeed the ad and
33:04
all of the m5m jumped on this oh he doesn't
33:09
care in fact there's always one guy in the troll
33:11
room who always who basically should be on the pivot
33:14
pod yeah screw Americans, right? You don't care, but you
33:18
don't care. They all did this. They all jumped up.
33:21
He doesn't care about your money. He only cares about
33:24
nuclear war. President Trump is back at the White House
33:28
and back to the reality in the United States of
33:31
gas prices, which are now averaging $4.53 a gallon nationally. If
33:37
you thought that after a couple of days away during
33:40
his trip to China and when asked exactly what he
33:43
meant when he answered that question that he was going
33:46
to rephrase or clarify what he said about Americans financial
33:50
situations when it comes to the impact from the Iran
33:54
war you would be wrong. Hold on a second that
33:59
sounds like MS now. The CNN. Oh the CNN? That's
34:04
Caitlin Collins. Okay it seems to me yes the Democrats
34:10
who have been fighting against fossil fuels forever and would
34:13
love a $10 a gallon gas price to keep people from
34:16
using gasoline should be happy about this. How come they're
34:19
bitching about it? Can you answer me that question? Because
34:22
this is all about the midterms. That's all that it
34:24
is. Everything in the world is about the midterms. It's
34:28
just the midterms. The context and the question itself was
34:32
pretty clear, but also in the subsequent interview that the
34:35
president did while he was in Beijing with Brett Baier.
34:38
And in fact, during that interview, the president continued doubling
34:41
down on this sentiment. When you tell somebody you're going
34:46
to have to pay a little more, not that much
34:49
more, a little more for gas, Celine, for a very
34:52
short period of time, because we want to stop the
34:55
threat of being blown to pieces by a lunatic, by
34:58
a crazy person, and they are crazy, using nuclear weapons.
35:02
Everybody says that's fine. And that question was a fake
35:05
question, and they didn't put my full answer. I totally
35:08
care. Of course, to people struggling to put food on
35:13
the table or who are grimacing when they go to
35:14
fill up their tank. Vote Democrat. There was nothing fake
35:18
about the question. And as far as the president's answer.
35:21
We've played the entire thing for you since he said
35:24
it as he was departing the White House earlier this
35:26
week. But just for good measure, you can listen to
35:29
the entire thing. OK, good measure. Here we go. Mr.
35:33
President, to what extent are American financial situations motivating you
35:37
to make a deal? Not even a little bit. The
35:40
only thing that matters when I'm talking about Iran, they
35:43
can't have a nuclear weapon. I don't think about American
35:47
financial situation. I don't think about anybody i think about
35:50
one thing we cannot let iran have a nuclear weapon
35:54
that's all that's the only thing that so it's subtle
35:58
it's very subtle chopping off the front end of it
36:01
but i think it matters so anyway let's find out
36:05
exactly what the i don't know financial people think of
36:08
the trip and if they felt it was any good
36:10
this is cnbc i like cnbc because they kind of
36:14
have to tell the truth is difficult for them sometimes,
36:16
especially for the Sorkin kid. But they have to tell
36:19
the truth because, you know, people invest on it and
36:21
otherwise people won't watch their stupid network anymore. So here
36:24
we go. President Xi has already issued a warning to
36:26
President Trump saying that the Taiwan question is the most
36:30
important issue in the China-U.S. relation. And if not handled
36:34
properly, these two countries could have clashes and even conflicts.
36:38
What do you make of this warning? That's a very
36:42
good question. And that's probably the biggest concern for people
36:45
like myself living in Taiwan. In a summer, there are
36:48
three subjects Trump want to talk about. Number one is
36:51
Iran and war, because they want to reduce inflation with
36:56
more supply of oil. Number two is trade. That's why
36:59
Trump got all the CEOs, NVIDIA, Apple, et cetera, to
37:03
China about trade. Number three is Taiwan. But from Xi's
37:06
perspective, the order importance is reversed. For Xi's perspective, Taiwan
37:11
is number one subject, number one importance. So if you
37:15
listened, and I'm just going to think it's true, I
37:18
don't know, it could be total bull crap. But if
37:20
you listen to some of the interviews, it seems like
37:23
some other deals were made that are relevant to our
37:27
relationship with China. Let me ask you this. The issue,
37:29
and you've been asked about it, and you've spoken about
37:33
it, and that is China's support of Iran. How big
37:38
a discussion was that today? We discussed it. We discussed
37:41
it. I mean, when you say support, they're not fighting
37:45
a war with us or anything. No. He said he's
37:48
not going to give military equipment. That's a big statement.
37:50
He said that today. That's a big statement. He said
37:53
that strongly. But at the same time, he said, you
37:56
know, they buy a lot of their oil there and
37:57
they'd like to keep doing that. He'd like to see
38:00
Hormuz straight opened. I said, well, we didn't stop it.
38:03
They did it. Then we stopped them. You know, sort
38:05
of interesting. He joked. He said, you know, sort of
38:08
if they stopped it, then you stopped them. But they'd
38:11
like to see it opened. But they actually closed it.
38:14
He didn't like the fact that they're charging tolls. I
38:18
don't know if they are or not. I don't know
38:19
who would pay them. I mean, where do they put
38:21
the money? The country's decimated. They're charging tolls. Where's the
38:24
money going? Do you think President Xi and China have
38:30
the ability to influence the Iranians, considering they are one
38:34
of their biggest customers? I love how he's not going
38:39
to give a truthful answer. He's like, I'm not going
38:42
to tell you that. Look, he's not coming in with
38:46
guns. He's not coming in with rifles and not coming
38:48
in shooting. He's been very good. they get a lot
38:54
of their oil, 40% of their oil from that location.
38:58
So what has happened, and one thing I think that
39:00
we're going to make a deal on, they've agreed they
39:02
want to buy oil from the United States. They're going
39:05
to go to Texas. We're going to start sending Chinese
39:07
ships to Texas and to Louisiana and to Alaska. All
39:12
right, let's go to CNBC with our Secretary of Energy,
39:16
Chris Wright. You said short term. Should we, should the
39:20
world get prepared for maybe a longer supply disruption than
39:27
some initially suspected? Because give us your view on where
39:31
we stand in the Strait of Hormuz right now, if
39:33
you would, Mr. Secretary. And also, what are your estimations
39:36
about how long things might take to return to normal?
39:40
And I hate that term, but I think you know
39:42
what I mean. Yeah, but a lot of that's up
39:44
to Iran. One way or the other, we will see
39:47
an end to the Iranian nuclear program, and we will
39:50
see free flow of traffic through the Straits of Hormuz.
39:52
That could happen relatively rapidly with an agreement with Iran.
39:56
Every nation in the world is standing against what Iran
39:59
is doing.
40:00
including China, who's a major buyer of Iranian oil and
40:03
other oil from the Arabian Gulf. Do you think they'll
40:06
swap that out for U.S. oil? It's kind of what
40:08
I asked you at the top of the interview. Yeah,
40:09
certainly in the short run, they're going to do that.
40:13
They'll continue to buy, and I think, growing amounts of
40:15
U.S. oil. You know, you see that Chinese ships are
40:19
getting to the Straits of Hormuz, because I think we
40:21
control it. I don't think Iran controls it. I think
40:24
we're just sitting there like, oh, this is great, until
40:27
you want to buy our insurance and use our new
40:30
shipping infrastructure. You can do whatever you want. Come to
40:33
Louisiana. Come to Texas. Best price. Everything's going to be
40:36
good. And in the background, we've got UAE and their
40:41
pipeline. And eventually, this thing will open up. And I
40:44
think you're going to see the price of oil go
40:46
just – you okay? Yeah, sorry. Just dive bomb. It
40:52
seems so clear, even looking at the futures. Yeah, but
40:56
don't we want to sell them oil at a little
40:58
higher price to make a little extra money? Well, yeah.
41:01
And we also want to do the insurance. We want
41:03
to take this away from the British guys. We want
41:07
to run that. We've seen Saudi Arabia go full flow
41:10
to the Red Sea with their port of Yambou. Do
41:13
you think that the Strait of Hormuz and the Arabian
41:15
Gulf are going to become permanently less important? They're still
41:20
massively important, but less important than they have been? Oh,
41:23
absolutely. I mean, Iran, this is a card you can
41:26
play once. You can play once. We'll see more pipeline
41:29
capacity through Saudi, through UAE. You know, there's an Iraqi
41:33
pipeline that goes to Chehan in Turkey. We could see
41:37
a pipeline going to Jordan. Hey, maybe that's why Turkey
41:40
tried to get involved. Remember Turkey was trying to get
41:42
involved in the conversation? Yeah, they were actually. Yeah, I
41:47
think, hey, we got a pipeline. Send it our way.
41:50
This is good. Saudi through UAE. You know, there's an
41:53
Iraqi pipeline that goes to Chehan in Turkey. We could
41:57
see a pipeline going to Jordan. There'll be other routes
42:00
for energy to get out of the Persian Gulf. I
42:03
prefer to call it the Arabian Gulf. Ooh, we're renaming
42:06
it. I think we will see it. How about the
42:08
Gulf of America? Yeah, could you know the one of
42:10
those? Out of the Persian Gulf. I prefer to call
42:13
it the Arabian Gulf. But yeah, I think we will
42:16
see a decreasing importance from the Strait of Hormuz, but
42:19
not a decreasing importance of those nations energy production and
42:23
energy supply yeah they're great allies of the united states
42:25
they're key energy suppliers to the world yeah i i
42:28
think they have they have some kind of plan that
42:31
they're executing on, and Rubio's, Lubio, I'm sorry, President Lubio
42:34
is aware of it. Is there anything you can shed
42:36
light on that? Well, I think the details will be
42:38
announced later today. I don't want to get ahead of
42:39
the actual announcement by the trade representative, but there's going
42:42
to be some agricultural purchases which are important, and they're
42:44
important for our growers, and China needs those things. We
42:47
hope in the future to expand it to energy purchase.
42:50
The United States is a net supplier of energy now
42:53
to the world. one of the world's, if not the
42:54
world's largest energy supplier at this point. Obviously, when it
42:58
comes to the airplanes and the engines, those are American
43:00
factories and American workers that are making that. And so
43:02
anytime you can gain access to a market as large
43:05
as this one, that's a very positive thing. Yeah, I
43:08
still believe in the ARC model, America, Russia, China. Look,
43:11
you can buy some from Russia. We're not going to
43:14
make a problem out of it. We're not going to
43:16
sanction the ghost ships. Just do it, do it legally.
43:19
You're going to have to pay more, but, you know,
43:21
just get on board with everybody else. And then that
43:23
strait will eventually open up. It could take another four
43:26
or five months for all I know. I don't think
43:28
it's going to take forever. You know, there may be
43:30
something to the, you know, our basic thesis on the
43:33
show was always there's a back channel in Iran. Yes.
43:37
We were working with them in some way, shape or
43:39
form. Has that disappeared or are we still, is it
43:44
possible that we're still working with them and all this
43:46
is part of a giant scheme? Completely possible. And getting
43:52
rid of the Ayatollah guys was part of it because
43:56
the real powers in Iran didn't want them around. They
44:00
were annoying. It was super annoying. Well, they're very annoying.
44:02
In this way, remember the turban knockers, the kids going
44:07
bicycles and knock their turbans off. Yeah, I forgot about
44:12
that. Well, we already know that there's more hijabs on
44:16
the streets of Amsterdam than the streets of Tehran. Yes,
44:19
right. You got that information from a boots on the
44:21
ground report. Yeah, so things are... By the way, I
44:24
got a boots on the ground from one of our
44:27
producers. He says, everybody... Let me just find it here.
44:32
Everybody's bugging... Or he says, boogieing out of Kuwait due
44:37
to imminent action. Sunday was what we had been told
44:40
and why we bugged out. All contractors plus non-essential personnel
44:44
evacuated. This has to do with all GCC countries. Quote,
44:50
Trump is done effing around. Xi is handled. Oil being
44:54
sold from the U.S. CIA Mossad insurgency. Hmm. We have
45:01
served as the sheriff of the world. A lot of
45:02
colonists here. Well, he's a military guy. We've served as
45:06
the sheriff of the world. We're cleaning up European colonies.
45:08
So there's a lot in here, but there's supposedly something
45:11
might be happening today, and everybody's getting out. So I
45:17
don't know. Maybe this will come to a quicker end
45:20
than we thought. Well, it has to, in my opinion,
45:24
because we still have the problem with the 4th of
45:27
July. Yes, yes. We don't need anything, the sort of
45:32
Damocles hanging over our heads on the 4th of July
45:36
in our celebration of 250 years as a country. You
45:39
know, speaking of Greek references, Chris, the Knight of the
45:45
Iguana, he said he had a slight correction to the
45:49
Thysudides. Thysudides. Thysudides, yes. We can't pronounce it. He says
45:55
the Thysidides trap warns the upcoming power, not the dominant
46:01
one. Athens was the rising power. Sparta was gunning for
46:06
him. If you take the Thysidides trap as it was
46:10
originally written. Thucydides. Thucydides. It's impossible to say. I know.
46:15
Let's just call it T-trap. If you take the T-trap,
46:18
which is kind of cool with China. China is in
46:22
danger of the trap not the USA so even this
46:29
phony baloney thing that the M5M was bantering about they
46:35
didn't even get it right although I'm sure what? although
46:40
I'm sure in a future dictionary the Thucydides trap will
46:45
be reversed just like decimated yeah decimated It'll just be
46:52
reversed. Meanwhile, Cuba on deck. You recall the president said
46:59
that on our way home from Iran, we'll park off
47:03
the shore of Cuba and we'll say, hey, we're taking
47:05
you over, and they'll say, okay, we're good, we're ready.
47:08
Yeah, I got a couple of clips on this. Oh,
47:10
okay. Let's play your clips. Well, let's start with the
47:13
blackouts one and two. Okay. Cuba blackout, yep. First up
47:20
today, Cuba. This week, the island ran out of oil,
47:24
causing massive blackouts across the country and a night of
47:28
protests. Havana. protests. What is, who is this? Is this,
47:33
that's what's her name. The black chick that works on
47:35
the weekends at NPR. Yeah. NPR. And she just, I
47:40
don't know. She just doesn't want to pronounce words. Correct.
47:43
Also got a visit from the CIA director. He was
47:46
there for negotiations, starting with a tough choice for Cuba's
47:49
leaders. Change or the U S will act. NPR international
47:53
correspondent Eder Peralta is following it all and joins us
47:57
now. Good morning, Eder. Hey, good morning, Alyssa. So let's
48:00
start with more details from what looks like a week
48:03
with a lot going on in Cuba. Yeah, I mean,
48:06
we're reaching summer there, so it's really hot. And it
48:09
so happens that the lights went off for more than
48:11
24 hours this week. So on Wednesday, very unhappy people
48:15
took to the streets of Havana. They banged on pots
48:17
and pans demanding that the government turn the lights back
48:20
on. And the government didn't offer much hope. The country's
48:24
energy minister, Vicente de la O. Levi, came on TV
48:27
and said that the 100,000 tons of Russian crude that
48:31
arrived in April has been used up and that the
48:33
grid is now operating essentially without reserves. And remember that
48:38
Cuba has received precious little oil because the U.S. is
48:41
running a de facto oil blockade. Cuba has been investing
48:44
in solar power, but the grid is so old, so
48:47
frail, so lacking in maintenance that it can't handle the
48:50
voltage fluctuations that happen with solar energy. So that means
48:54
that the long blackouts that are making life miserable on
48:58
the island are here to stay. No, because we're coming
49:01
to the rescue. Is that what you have in clip
49:05
two? No, clip two is a little different. I think
49:07
clip three maybe, which is a different clip. But yeah.
49:11
And while all this is happening, the director of the
49:13
CIA lands in the country? Yeah. Cuba says that the
49:17
U.S. asked for a high-level meeting and a delegation headed
49:20
by CIA Director John Ratcliffe. By the way, when the
49:25
CIA director comes to visit your country, typically not a
49:28
good thing. Why is he there? Last time a CIA
49:32
director visited a country, we got Ukraine. Yeah. I'm wondering
49:38
this myself. They say, well, they want a high-level meeting.
49:40
why don't they send Rubio? Rubio is the obvious choice.
49:43
He's Cuban or any number of people. Rubio, of course,
49:48
would be the top guy. But they send a CIA
49:51
director because they want to highlight. Well, this just means
49:54
something's up. Yeah, I don't like it either. It's very
49:57
suspicious. Landed in Havana. Well, I mean, I don't disagree.
50:00
like it because something's up and maybe it should be
50:03
but okay the cubans say they made it clear that
50:07
they don't pose a security threat to the u.s they
50:09
say they don't host any foreign military or intelligence bases
50:13
on the island the u.s readout of the visit came
50:16
out from a cia official speaking to npr on condition
50:19
of anonymity and that official said that ratcliffe came with
50:22
a message for cuba and that's that the u.s wants
50:25
to quote seriously engage on economic and security issues but
50:29
only Only if Cuba makes fundamental changes. I've spoken to
50:33
Cuban officials and they have been fairly consistent in saying
50:36
that they are open to economic reforms on the island.
50:39
They're even open to U.S. investment, they say, but that
50:42
they will not, especially not under pressure from the United
50:45
States, give up their president or change their one party
50:47
system or for that matter, their socialist ideology. I think
50:50
the question is whether those things are the changes that
50:54
the U.S. considers fundamental. So what? I mean, does this
50:58
point to a stalemate? neither side is going to budge?
51:00
I think you could read it that way. And that's
51:02
consequential because President Trump has threatened military action. But I
51:06
had a conversation with Lilian Guerra, a Cuban historian. Has
51:10
he threatened military action? I'm wondering. I don't remember that.
51:15
I mean, nothing to the likes of, you know, like
51:19
we're going to remove a civilization. I don't recall that.
51:23
Neither side is going to budge? I think you could
51:25
read it that way. And that's consequential because President Trump
51:29
has threatened military action. But I had a conversation with
51:32
Lilian Guerra, a Cuban historian at the University of Florida,
51:35
and she sees both sides softening. The Vatican, for example,
51:39
has been instrumental in bridging gaps between the U.S. and
51:42
Cuba. And it's notable that Secretary of State Marco Rubio
51:45
met recently with Pope Leo. The U.S. has also offered
51:49
Cuba $100 million in aid, and Cuba has said they would
51:52
take it. And importantly, Cuba also released a high-profile prisoner
51:56
on Thursday. Guerra's read is that the situation is so
51:59
dire in Cuba that both sides are afraid of an
52:02
explosion. Do you mind if I just insert one clip
52:05
here? Go ahead. Because. But I want to mention something,
52:10
which is the fact that it didn't make a lot
52:12
of sense that Rubio is going to meet with the
52:14
Pope. Well, maybe he's a Catholic. But now it makes
52:17
a little sense that it's part of the scheme. Yes,
52:20
I have. And by the way, that kind of reconfirms
52:23
the fact that a communist system really should get rid
52:27
of religions if it wants to succeed. I mean, the
52:32
thesis in Russia was, let's get rid of the Russian
52:35
Orthodox Church. Let's, you know, put it into the background
52:39
because we don't need outside influence, which the Pope is,
52:44
telling people how to think or how to behave because
52:48
it hurts the communist system. I just found it kind
52:52
of ironic that they screwed up that part of it.
52:57
Well, so I just put a couple things together in
53:00
my tiny brain. So we've got Rubio talking to the
53:03
Pope. The Pope is the head of the Catholic Church.
53:07
What is the original acronym for CIA? Are you talking
53:12
your tiny brain or the brain in your head? No,
53:14
that's the tiny brain in my head. It's very tiny.
53:17
That other tiny brain is somewhere else. It has a
53:20
mind of its own. Sorry, I was... Rubio talks to
53:23
the Pope. The Pope is the head of the Catholic
53:25
Church. What is the original acronym that we always laugh
53:29
about for the CIA, of which the director was just
53:32
there? Catholics in Action. Catholics in Action. Now listen to
53:35
this. Just go to Jen, because, you know, Jen, Patrick
53:38
and I were talking yesterday about the possibility, of course,
53:40
of this offer of $100 million that we're hearing now, that
53:44
Ireland appears willing to accept. Do we have a sense
53:48
from this meeting, the CIA, what you are hearing as
53:50
well, What kind of reforms they're likely to see, right?
53:54
They want to see and how quickly. Well, Isa, in
53:57
addition to those security reforms that Patrick laid out that
54:00
came up in that meeting with the CIA director yesterday,
54:03
they are also pushing what they describe as economic reforms
54:07
on the island, essentially opening it up to private investment.
54:11
This was something that was a key focus of a
54:13
different visit by U.S. officials last month to the island
54:17
where they met with senior Cuban officials. And they were
54:20
saying they needed to make these economic reforms in addition
54:23
to those security reforms in the near term or else
54:27
they would continue to face a catastrophic situation. Now, it
54:31
is clear here that these economic restrictions are going to
54:36
remain in place unless these alleged reforms are taken by
54:41
the Cuban government. However, the State Department says that they
54:45
are willing to offer this $100 million in humanitarian aid only
54:49
if it is given through the Catholic Church or independent
54:53
organizations on the ground. They say that this is the
54:56
key string that is attached to this offer, that it
55:00
has to be distributed through these independent organizations. Now, a
55:03
senior State Department official said that they have been in
55:06
touch. They have reached out to the Cuban government through
55:09
what they described as a senior channel between the State
55:12
Department and senior leadership in Havana about this aid. Cuban
55:16
officials have indicated that they would be willing to accept
55:19
it if there weren't conditions on it. So now take
55:22
what you just said. So the State Department says, Rubio
55:27
goes to the Pope and says, Hey, Pope, hey, Leo,
55:29
you're from Chicago. You know how to deal with me.
55:32
We can talk. We can talk business. So we're going
55:35
to give $100 million for Cuba. We want you guys to
55:38
be in charge of doling it out because there's nothing
55:40
more embarrassing towards a communist system than the church coming
55:45
in and telling them what to do. That's actually kind
55:49
of genius. I love that. My donations clip, which is
55:53
the third clip I've got on Cuba, has a similar
55:56
kind of, they bring the UN into it and how
55:59
they do it. We don't want to deal with them.
56:01
It's kind of interesting. It's similar to your clip, but
56:03
to play it anyway. The United Nations is trying to
56:06
raise more money for aid to Cuba, where a major
56:09
energy crisis threatens health care and food production on the
56:13
island. But NPR's Michelle Kellerman reports the United States says
56:17
it won't contribute to the UN's efforts. The U.N.'s Office
56:21
for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs says it has raised
56:24
only 30 percent of the $94 million it needs for Cuba.
56:28
Fuel shortages have created what one top official called a
56:31
multifaceted emergency. The State Department tells NPR that the U.S.
56:36
will not give any money to the U.N. in Cuba,
56:39
stating, quote, the U.N. in Cuba has long colluded with
56:42
the regime. The statement goes on to explain that Secretary
56:45
of State Marco Rubio has offered $100 million in goods to
56:49
be delivered by the Catholic Church or other, quote, independent
56:53
and respected organizations. This is like a huge FU. Like,
56:59
okay, you need some diesel. Clearly, you need some diesel.
57:03
We got a Jesus boat with some diesel on it
57:08
coming your way. But, you know, we got to have
57:11
the Catholic guys run everything now. I mean, it's such
57:14
a slap. It's quite funny. It is funny. And also,
57:19
you know that they're going to do the right thing.
57:23
Because you know, the whole point is stop the communists.
57:25
You know, if Rubio goes and says, well, you can't
57:29
be commies anymore. We're like, no, we don't want to
57:31
do that. You know, that'll be a huge problem. But
57:34
now you just bring in the Catholic Church. I'm like,
57:36
well, you know, we owe you one. I think it's
57:42
funny. It's a very strange situation. And out of the
57:47
blue, I mean, this whole Cuban thing was not part
57:50
of the campaign that Trump ran. It wasn't even discussed.
57:54
It's like a whole new idea. Somehow, I think, you
57:58
know, to be honest about it, it has to be
58:01
Rubio behind the whole thing. He's the Cuban in the
58:04
administration. And the Catholic. And the Catholic. Yeah. And a
58:08
friend of the Pope. Yeah, buddy-buddy. Trying to iron things
58:11
out between him and Trump in this phony baloney feud
58:14
that they really don't have. Yeah, precisely. But the media
58:18
loves that because, oh, Trump hates Catholics. Well, what's Rubio
58:22
doing there? It doesn't make any sense. It's good. I
58:25
think, isn't J.D. Vance a born-again Catholic? Didn't he join
58:29
the Catholic Church late in life or something? I don't
58:32
know. Is he a Catholic or is he a born-again
58:34
Christian? No, I think he's a Catholic. Look it up.
58:37
I think he's a Catholic. Well, we don't look things
58:39
up on this show. No, that's right. You can ask
58:40
your buddy. We consult the Book of Knowledge. Here we
58:43
go. Is J.D. Vance a Catholic or just a regular
58:46
Christian? Regular. Let's find out. All right, Book of Knowledge.
58:54
He's searching through all the pages. According to the Book
58:58
of Knowledge, J.D. Vance is a Catholic of a very
59:01
specific type, having converted to the Catholic Church in 2019.
59:07
He grew up loosely evangelical Christian, identified as an atheist
59:10
as a young man, then reconnected with Christianity during law
59:14
school before his formal conversion. Thus, it has been written.
59:21
Hmm. Well, I guess he is a Catholic then. Yes,
59:24
exactly right. Yeah. Anyway, so that'll be fun. That'll be
59:30
fun to see. But the big thing is investment in
59:33
the island, American investment. Yeah, it's about time. I mean,
59:37
the Canadians have been investing there for a long time.
59:40
It's getting on our nerves. You know, they're putting money
59:43
in. They've got property. This is a great place for
59:46
it should be a vacation paradise. It's a new island
59:50
right near Florida. Yeah, 90 miles away. Jamaica's getting old,
59:56
you know. Virgin Islands, everything.
1:00:00
Epstein Island. Everyone's been to all the islands. Let's go
1:00:03
to Cuba. Cuba's always been big. It's always been, and
1:00:08
it's got cigars. Cigars, cigars, cigars. Not only that, but
1:00:12
the cigars are quite remarkable. Don't they have a drink
1:00:16
too? Don't they have some kind of drink that they're
1:00:19
good at? A Cuban. Okay, thanks. Very helpful. I don't
1:00:26
know. Very helpful. Mojito? I have no idea. yes the
1:00:33
mojito all right okay where do you want to go
1:00:38
now well i got a couple of shorties here that
1:00:40
are that are interesting uh but let's say i've been
1:00:44
wanting to get this out of the way cbs did
1:00:46
a special on trolls on trolls yeah the psychology of
1:00:52
a troll wait a minute did they interview anybody from
1:00:54
our troll room no they didn't interview any real trolls
1:00:58
but the whole The subtext is that Trump is a
1:01:03
terrible person because he's a troll. Oh, I see. So
1:01:07
they're trying to deconstruct Trump by doing a story about
1:01:11
trolls. That's my guess. But here's the two part, two
1:01:16
clips. They're very short, but entertaining. Listen up, everybody. Arthur
1:01:20
Brooks can eat a plate of hot trash. Huh? That
1:01:24
was the first comment the CBS News contributor got on
1:01:27
one of his online columns. and his earliest experience of
1:01:31
internet trolls. One of the things that we have seen
1:01:34
since time immemorial is people with a pitchfork setting fire
1:01:39
to people they don't like. That's right. Perhaps the main
1:01:41
difference now is that they'd have to come back to
1:01:44
their families and communities, and now they can hide behind
1:01:47
the anonymity of an anonymous Twitter handle. It's the perfect
1:01:51
ecosystem for people that we call trolls today. And if
1:01:54
you spend any time on social media or any time
1:01:56
in the comments section after a news article, you're going
1:01:59
to find that it gets really toxic really quickly so
1:02:01
as a behavioral scientist and also as a writer in
1:02:05
public i wanted to know who are these people and
1:02:08
i started to do a little bit of research into
1:02:10
it and it turns out they're not like just you
1:02:13
and me it turns out they're different they're from the
1:02:15
seven percent of the population that have sociopathic characteristics they're
1:02:19
disproportionately drawn from what we call dark triads people with
1:02:23
narcissism Machiavellianism, meaning I'm willing to hurt you and even
1:02:28
psychopathy they have psychopathic traits, meaning they feel no empathy
1:02:31
or remorse, and they enjoy hurting you. And this is
1:02:35
why we can't say that these are ordinary people. Well,
1:02:38
maybe these trolls are actually awesome people now, the way
1:02:41
he described it. These are our people. These are narcissists.
1:02:45
Yeah, these are our people. They're psychopaths. This is an
1:02:49
offhanded attack on Trump. It's still our people. 7% are
1:02:53
in the troll room. true it's our people we have
1:02:56
a lot of we do have a disproportionate number of
1:02:59
people that would qualify yes and they should be proud
1:03:03
of themselves they should be seven percent is actually fewer
1:03:06
people than i expected yeah but you're disproportionately drawing from
1:03:10
that population they're the ones that are actually trying to
1:03:13
start internet conflict they're the ones who are actually insulting
1:03:16
other people they're the ones who are actually trying to
1:03:18
get you all fired up because they enjoy seeing the
1:03:20
emotional turmoil yes yes that is exactly them i love
1:03:25
you people this is what you're doing yeah the jig
1:03:27
is up we're on to you now we figured you
1:03:30
out cbs is on to you trollery trollery talking about
1:03:34
you they're getting their thrills from it now there are
1:03:36
others who say they don't we actually have studies that
1:03:39
ask internet trolls why they're trolling some of them say
1:03:41
for social justice but guess what else we find but
1:03:44
people who are activists political activists, they tend to be
1:03:48
psychopathic as well. This is one of the things we
1:03:51
need to keep in mind. On either side of the
1:03:53
aisle. If you're a real activist and you want to
1:03:56
fire people up and get people angry, there's a reason
1:03:58
you like people to be angry. So there are some
1:04:00
parallels there. There are. Wow. So that kind of reminds
1:04:04
me of that Twitter post you made. Which was? There
1:04:07
was some video about a guy explaining how psychos get
1:04:12
to the top of political... Oh yeah, the psychopaths taking
1:04:15
over the world. Yeah, that was a very interesting analysis.
1:04:20
But Spencer Pratt falls into this category. Yeah. You know
1:04:24
what's interesting is now other people are making videos for
1:04:28
him. No, most people have made – he's made very
1:04:31
few videos. The only ones he's made involve him, and
1:04:35
he says this is basically doing an interview. No, they're
1:04:40
all made by third parties. There's about six or seven
1:04:43
groups that do a lot of them, and there's a
1:04:45
bunch of independents doing a bunch of them. They're all
1:04:48
done by outside people. Not just one or two, all
1:04:52
of them. That's why the style is so different from
1:04:56
one to the other. So, you know, Tina is very
1:04:59
enamored by this. And she's kind of given up on
1:05:02
news. She's given up on our show. She doesn't even
1:05:05
listen to our show anymore. Well. She's like, she's watching
1:05:09
dogs on TikTok, on Instagram, and people cooking with cheese.
1:05:17
That's our competition. But. People cooking with too much cheese.
1:05:22
Too much cheese. And cats that play the piano. Yeah,
1:05:24
that's basically our group. Yes, and we're losing. We're losing
1:05:28
here. Well, we're losing now and again, I'd say. Now,
1:05:32
but the Spencer Pratt stuff, she sees that. She says,
1:05:35
you know, this could spark a revolution and many more
1:05:39
people could do this. What do you think? Well, I
1:05:43
think that's what everybody – I mean, what she says
1:05:45
there is a commonplace as far as I'm concerned, which
1:05:50
is that Pratt is doing what the future of politics
1:05:53
is what he's doing. The issue, it seems to me,
1:05:59
is that there's going to be some legal action taken
1:06:02
because of likenesses. But if you're famous, you can't do
1:06:05
that. I'm thinking there's going to be some changes made
1:06:10
in the law. Because there has to be at some
1:06:14
point. because there's a lot of the kind of defamation
1:06:19
that is part of his videos or the ones that
1:06:22
are being done on his behalf, let's say, because that's
1:06:26
what the situation is. Even though many of them identify
1:06:29
what group is doing them at the end, there's usually
1:06:32
an identification. Not always, but a lot of times. Okay,
1:06:35
this is interesting that you bring this up because I
1:06:37
think we're seeing the law change in many different ways.
1:06:41
And you identified one early on about where parents are
1:06:48
going to be penalized for things their idiot kids do.
1:06:53
Yeah. Which is, I mean, if you... Sneaking up on
1:06:56
us. But it's really quite insane. I mean, if you
1:07:01
look at the American laws, most of them were written
1:07:04
based upon biblical laws. And this is the exact opposite.
1:07:09
You know, scripture says, you know, no parent shall be
1:07:12
responsible for what his child does or the other way
1:07:14
around. And so this is such a diversion from U.S.
1:07:20
law and the origin of it from a long, long
1:07:22
time ago. And so I was very surprised to hear
1:07:28
Janine Pirro, Judge Janine, who is now the attorney general
1:07:32
for District of Columbia, when she said this. And as
1:07:36
we grapple with this problem, there is one area that
1:07:41
hasn't been discussed. Parental involvement has been a noted gap
1:07:46
in any discussion. And I am here to say, as
1:07:50
the United States attorney in the District of Columbia, that
1:07:54
ends today. Starting today, my office will aggressively prosecute parents
1:08:00
under D.C.'s curfew law, and the specific statute that we
1:08:05
will use is a violation of D.C. Code 22-811, and
1:08:12
it involves contributing to the delinquency of a minor. This
1:08:17
statute makes it unlawful for an adult to enable, facilitate,
1:08:23
or permit a minor to engage in delinquent acts. The
1:08:27
penalty is up to six months imprisonment. So if the
1:08:31
evidence shows the parent knew or should have known or
1:08:36
permitted or failed to prevent participation, we're going to charge
1:08:41
them. And if you drop your kid off and you
1:08:45
fail to supervise them or you let them skip school
1:08:48
to join the chaos, you are going to face fines,
1:08:53
court-ordered classes, and possible jail time. I'm against this. Why?
1:09:01
You don't think there should be any parent responsibility whatsoever
1:09:03
for delinquent kids who've gone nuts and they're unsupervised because
1:09:09
the parents are lacking substance? certain skills yes yes however
1:09:14
i think the kids need to be penalized otherwise they
1:09:18
get penalized no they don't well if their parents are
1:09:21
taken away they sure do because they're going to be
1:09:23
locked up in a foster care home i think you
1:09:25
put these kids into you tase them first so but
1:09:31
there's things changing in our laws and i just i'm
1:09:35
not there's a lot of things i don't agree with
1:09:36
i'm just i'm not entirely on board with that one
1:09:38
man she's at least she's not clear about the kids.
1:09:42
It's like, you know, everything is now the parents' fault.
1:09:46
Eh. So, Rob Carty, our constitutional lawyer, suits and boots,
1:09:52
he was so jacked up this week. He's like, this
1:09:56
is huge. And for his business,
1:10:00
It is huge, but I think it also is going
1:10:03
in a direction that we would like to see. This
1:10:06
is a change in liability from a court ruling by
1:10:12
the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court ruled unanimously to allow
1:10:16
a man who lost part of his leg in a
1:10:19
trucking crash to sue a major logistics company that hired
1:10:23
that truck. The man's attorneys argued that the truck driver
1:10:26
had been cited for careless driving in another crash months
1:10:30
earlier and that the broker, C.H. Robinson, should share liability.
1:10:35
Last month, CBS News chief investigative correspondent Jim Axelrod spoke
1:10:39
to families who lost loved ones in similar crashes who
1:10:43
could also be impacted by this ruling. This is what
1:10:50
Ohio State troopers confronted, responding to a crash outside of
1:10:54
Cincinnati the day before Christmas in 2022. Can you hear
1:10:58
me? A tractor trailer heading north on I-75 crossed the
1:11:03
median and slammed into two vehicles. They were texting me
1:11:08
throughout their drive, saying how close they were, where they
1:11:11
were, and then I heard nothing. Amy Ross had planned
1:11:15
to host Christmas for her family that year. In those
1:11:19
two cars, her mother, Kimberly, a sister, Lauren, another sister,
1:11:24
Karen, and brother-in-law, Jeremy Bainey. and that's when we got
1:11:31
in touch with the police and the police said they're
1:11:34
all gone and there was nowhere to go there was
1:11:36
no hospitals to go visit them at the driver of
1:11:40
the truck a cuban national with a green card had
1:11:43
left miami two days earlier in a truck that police
1:11:46
said had a stolen federal registration number a toxicology report
1:11:51
showed elevated levels of cocaine and methamphetamines in his system
1:11:56
after the crash the driver fled back to cuba how
1:12:02
does a guy like this end up hauling goods for
1:12:04
walmart i don't think that this driver or many others
1:12:09
like him end up on the road but for the
1:12:12
broker turning a blind eye so now the brokers are
1:12:17
going to be liable for these crap drivers that they
1:12:21
hire. And here's, this guy, he does a YouTube, the
1:12:25
mother trucker. It's just short, but a little color to
1:12:27
it. To put it plain and simple, a lot of
1:12:30
owner operators are saying this is a big win because
1:12:33
the Supreme Court just had a unanimous ruling saying that
1:12:38
brokers are pretty much accountable for negligency when hiring any
1:12:43
motor carrier, right, that is unsafe. You know, and they
1:12:48
are including illegal alien truck drivers in this. So is
1:12:53
this a big win? Because when you look at this
1:12:55
and you're trying to book loads, the shippers, they want
1:12:59
to pay top dollars at times. Not all bad times.
1:13:03
And then they have the broker that's supposed to make
1:13:05
sure that happens. And what do they do? They pick
1:13:08
really crappy carriers to haul their loads. And they don't
1:13:12
care. They just want that extra money going to their
1:13:15
pocket and get some random carrier to do the job.
1:13:18
And then that person gets into an accident. And when
1:13:21
they do, there's no accountability on the broker. But now
1:13:25
that changes. Yeah, not only is it a change for
1:13:28
subpar truckers, haulers, loaders, whatever you want to call them,
1:13:34
but how about autonomous trucks? And with this type of
1:13:39
liability changed by the Supreme Court, could we see perhaps
1:13:43
vaccine manufacturers coming up soon? well something's got to give
1:13:50
on the vaccines or or pharma providers in general which
1:13:56
is one of the reasons i'm glad to see bill
1:13:57
cassidy was came in third in a in a three-man
1:14:01
race and got kicked out of his senate seat in
1:14:03
louisiana this is the creep who who condemned you know
1:14:08
wasn't going to vote for bobby kennedy he's a big
1:14:11
promoter of uh of the uh of the vaccine for
1:14:15
hepatitis b on for babies he is a one of
1:14:20
the top 10 recipients of pharma money he's also the
1:14:25
guy when he was hassling kennedy demanded that kennedy see
1:14:29
him twice a month to confirm to confirm that he
1:14:35
wasn't going to change the schedule for 86 vaccines for
1:14:39
infants. I mean, the guy was just a bad actor,
1:14:43
and he finally, you know, Trump wanted him out, and
1:14:46
he got out because he's also voted for Trump's impeachment
1:14:49
on the second go-round of the impeachment when Trump wasn't
1:14:52
even president anymore. Yeah, it's great. The guy's a total
1:14:55
creep. I mean, why was this guy even in office?
1:15:01
Oh, this brings me to Hantavirus. So this is the,
1:15:08
what is this guy? Admiral, what is that guy's name?
1:15:13
Admiral, Admiral. He's the Admiral. It's just him saying everything's
1:15:17
okay. Zero Americans are sick with Hantavirus. Brian Christine is
1:15:21
his name. linked to that cruise ship docked Spain. U.S.
1:15:24
health officials confirming for the first time, no Americans are
1:15:27
believed to be infected with the Andes strain, including the
1:15:30
passenger who ended up replacing the ship doctor who initially
1:15:33
tested positive. Further tests actually show he may have never
1:15:37
been sick with the disease. In total, health authorities are
1:15:39
watching 41 Americans for the virus, including 16 who were
1:15:43
never on that ship but were potentially exposed to one
1:15:45
of the cruise ship passengers who got on a plane.
1:15:48
All right, that's the report. Here's the admiral himself. Let
1:15:50
me be crystal clear. The risk of Hantavirus to the
1:15:53
general public remains very, very low. The Andes variant of
1:15:59
this virus does not spread easily, and it requires prolonged,
1:16:02
close contact with someone who is already symptomatic. Even so,
1:16:07
we have taken this situation very seriously from the very
1:16:10
start. We've taken it seriously across HHS and particularly through
1:16:15
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. And I'm proud
1:16:18
to see many of my U.S. Public Health Service officers
1:16:21
have been actively engaged in the response. The CDC rapidly
1:16:26
activated its emergency operations center. It deployed medical teams to
1:16:30
assess passengers and coordinated closely with international partners. They have
1:16:35
notified state health departments. They have initiated monitoring of potentially
1:16:40
exposed individuals. and they have issued clinical guidance through the
1:16:44
Health Alert Network. And they have also brought together national
1:16:47
partners through coordination calls. They've developed tools and resources to
1:16:51
support public health decision making. Well, the point being for
1:16:55
that clip is the guy sounds like he's a typical
1:16:57
boring guy and he's just, you know, he's going through
1:16:59
the motions, but he has it kind of covered and
1:17:02
he's not hair on fire like we're all going to
1:17:05
die. I thought this was going to blow over in
1:17:08
two days and this has been like two weeks already,
1:17:10
isn't it? oh yeah it's not going to blow over
1:17:13
but then i then then so this is the new
1:17:15
guy admiral christine so now we go to cnn and
1:17:19
then listen to this tonight we have a cnn exclusive
1:17:21
k-file and covering new details about one of the trump
1:17:24
administration's top public health officials who led the public federal
1:17:28
response this week on hantavirus. Dr. Brian Christine stood before
1:17:32
reporters promising a response grounded in science and grounded in
1:17:36
transparency. But before joining the administration, Christine was an Alabama
1:17:41
urologist with little experience in federal public health. He specialized
1:17:45
in penile implants and once hosted a YouTube show called
1:17:48
The Erection Connection. You coughed over it. I want to
1:17:52
make sure you heard about it. I want to make
1:17:54
sure you heard about his YouTube show. Penile implants. And
1:17:58
once hosted a YouTube show called The Erection Connection. Which
1:18:02
I need an end of show mix. Someday we'll find
1:18:06
it. Erection Connection. Anyway, so they're burning. Who are you
1:18:11
doing? They're burning this guy. Called The Erection Connection on
1:18:14
his procedures. K-File also found a history of far right
1:18:17
commentary and conspiracy-tinged smarts, including comparing the Biden administration to
1:18:23
Nazi Germany, questioning the 2020 election, and suggesting the COVID
1:18:27
vaccine did little to stop the pandemic. So, okay, it's
1:18:32
funny. I think the erection connection is a great find.
1:18:35
But here's CNN burning the admiral over at HHS. The
1:18:41
previous admiral over at HHS, of which they never said
1:18:45
anything bad, was literally a dude in a dress. Yeah,
1:18:50
Rachel. Rachel Levine. Rachel Levine. Literally a guy in a
1:18:54
dress. Oh, never a bad word about her, him, it.
1:18:59
Come on. You nailed it. Yeah. Yeah, well, meanwhile, it
1:19:05
doesn't make any difference because Ebola's back. Yeah. Woo, finally.
1:19:11
Yeah, yeah. When it rains, it pours, people. I got
1:19:13
two clips, one from the comparative, the CBS clip and
1:19:17
a BBC clip. You can play either one. How about
1:19:19
CBS first? There are growing concerns over yet another deadly
1:19:23
virus outbreak. Doctors are monitoring an Ebola epidemic in Africa
1:19:27
that may be to blame for dozens of deaths so
1:19:30
far. CBS's Lilia Luciano has the alarming developments and speaks
1:19:34
to a U.S. ER doctor who survived the virus. Survive!
1:19:38
In Congo's Eturi province, health officials are battling a new
1:19:42
Ebola outbreak. The Africa CDC says there are 246 suspected
1:19:46
cases and at least 65 people dead, the highest death
1:19:50
toll from the disease in years. The World Health Organization
1:19:53
is concerned. We know very well that the country has
1:19:57
experience, but the region where it is happened,
1:20:00
is highly volatile with the humanitarian situation going on and
1:20:04
the population moving around from South Sudan to Uganda and
1:20:09
other parts. Government officials confirmed the outbreak has now spread
1:20:13
to Uganda. Medical professionals seem very concerned about the possibility
1:20:18
or the ability to contain this. Why is that compared
1:20:21
to other times? It's already a big outbreak at the
1:20:23
point that we're hearing about it. There have already been
1:20:25
a number of deaths. And this is a strain of
1:20:28
Ebola for which we have no treatment, no vaccines. The
1:20:32
virus spreads through direct contact with blood and other bodily
1:20:35
fluids. Dr. Craig Spencer contracted Ebola while working in Guinea
1:20:39
in 2014. Healthcare workers are the group that I'm really
1:20:43
concerned about because they have very close contact with people
1:20:47
when they're most contagious, particularly around the time of folks'
1:20:51
death. And the U.S. has been the single largest external
1:20:55
player in Ebola response in the past. Now experts are
1:20:59
worried that the dismantling of USAID and the U.S. withdrawing
1:21:03
from the World Health Organization could have an impact in
1:21:06
the global efforts to contain the virus. Let the World
1:21:11
Health Organization do it. Yeah, Bill Gates. Why does USAID
1:21:15
have to do everything? They can't because they don't exist
1:21:17
anymore. Well, good. Go to the BBC. The Democratic Republic
1:21:23
of Congo's health minister has said the strain of Ebola,
1:21:26
which has broken out in recent days, has a very
1:21:29
high death rate. Samuel Roge Kamba said there was no
1:21:33
vaccine or specific treatment available. The outbreak has caused 80
1:21:38
deaths out of nearly 330 suspected cases. Shinga Nyoka reports.
1:21:44
reports. The numbers of the dead and sick have been
1:21:47
rising rapidly since this outbreak was declared, mainly in two
1:21:51
gold mining border towns, where it's feared that high population
1:21:54
movement could spread the disease further. The African Union's public
1:21:58
health agency has called for an increase in cross-border monitoring
1:22:02
after Uganda confirmed its first fatality. The 59-year-old man had
1:22:07
recently traveled from the DRC. Officials have called for international
1:22:11
assistance to contain what is now the DRC's 17th outbreak.
1:22:16
World news from the BBC. I think I have one
1:22:20
clip from CBS that has something additional in here. This
1:22:23
is the Democratic Republic of Congo's 17th outbreak of the
1:22:27
deadly viral disease, and it's unfolding against the backdrop of
1:22:30
a deepening security crisis where clashes between rival militia groups
1:22:35
have killed dozens of civilians in recent weeks. Abdir Rahman
1:22:39
Mahmoud is with the World Health Organization. Well, we know
1:22:42
very well that the country has experience, but the region
1:22:45
where it is happening is highly volatile with the humanitarian
1:22:49
situation going on and the population moving around. So our
1:22:53
response is to stand with the regional government and the
1:22:58
country neighbor in terms of solidarity to show again that
1:23:02
they can control this outbreak. And Ebola was first discovered
1:23:06
back in 1976 in what is now the DRC and
1:23:10
is thought to have spread from bats. Now this morning,
1:23:13
health experts are warning. Bats! Those Africans are eating bats!
1:23:20
Yeah, it's a problem. Yeah. How many times have we
1:23:26
been through an Ebola outbreak on this show in 18
1:23:28
years? I think it was four. At least. And then
1:23:32
we had two Zikas, four Ebolas, two Zikas, one COVID.
1:23:38
And now we had three SARS. We had SARS, GARS,
1:23:42
or whatever that other one was. And we had the
1:23:43
swine flu. MERS. MERS and SARS. MERS and SARS and
1:23:47
then COVID-19. COVID-19. And now Hanta virus, which is kind
1:23:52
of cool. We've got a new one. Well, this is
1:23:54
the second. We had a second. I think we've had
1:23:56
three incidents of Hanta. We had the current one. We
1:23:59
had the one with what's-his-name's wife. And then we had
1:24:02
one earlier, maybe 10 years ago, that was a Hanta
1:24:05
discussion. I don't remember from 10 years. I don't think
1:24:07
we've ever had a discussion on the show about Hanta.
1:24:10
I looked it up at bingit.io. I couldn't find any.
1:24:14
I did promise I would look into the resignation of
1:24:20
McCary over the flavored vapes. Do you remember this? You've
1:24:29
muted yourself. I don't know how that happens. I mean,
1:24:31
that has literally never happened to me. I can tell
1:24:35
you how it happens. I think Tina would love for
1:24:36
me to mute myself sometimes, but not on the show.
1:24:39
Yeah, I'm sure she would. Not on the show. But
1:24:40
beside the point, what happens is I get these pop-ups.
1:24:47
Pop-ups? Yeah, pop-ups. What world are you living in? What
1:24:51
happened to a blocker? Blockers don't work anymore. I mean,
1:24:57
I have, for example, I got my AVG antivirus-free. There's
1:25:00
There's your problem right there. Your AVG antivirus free expires
1:25:03
in six days. This is a pop-up. Renew it, man.
1:25:08
So I click on it, but instead of clicking on
1:25:11
it, I click on the mute button. Oh. Because it's
1:25:14
overlaying it and it just misses. I don't know. It's
1:25:17
an accident. Okay. Well, it's okay. So I promised I
1:25:21
would look into this resignation from the FDA director, administrator,
1:25:30
I think it is, over flavored vapes. So let's get
1:25:34
the full story. And I think I've figured out what
1:25:37
this was really about. Children's National in D.C. is sharing
1:25:41
its concerns after the FDA's decision to authorize fruit flavored
1:25:45
vapes. And that move played a role in the agency
1:25:48
leader's resignation yesterday. Sunrise's Max Marcilla joins us live. Morning,
1:25:52
Max. What does this authorization really mean, and why is
1:25:57
it driving this pushback? Well, Hillary, this authorization means that
1:26:01
one company called Glass can now market two of its
1:26:04
flavored e-cigarette products. They're blueberry and mango flavored. Listen to
1:26:08
this. Listen to this device. They're called Gold and Sapphire.
1:26:12
And while advocates of this move are hopeful that it
1:26:15
could help adults transition away from traditional cigarettes, there are
1:26:19
many concerns being raised, especially for young people. So look,
1:26:24
big picture, teen vaping is at its lowest point in
1:26:27
several years, and these new devices will have a digital
1:26:31
age verification system. But we spoke with Dr. Susan Wally,
1:26:35
the chief of hospital medicine at Children's National, and she's
1:26:38
concerned that teenagers could still find a workaround to the
1:26:41
new preventative technology. Look, she says these fruit-flavored devices are
1:26:45
extremely addictive and oftentimes are young person's first experience with
1:26:49
tobacco. We certainly are concerned as public health advocates, pediatricians
1:26:56
and teachers that, you know, our young people will get
1:27:00
the idea, oh, well, maybe this means that it's OK
1:27:02
if the FDA has authorized it and it couldn't be
1:27:06
further from the truth. So so one I followed this
1:27:10
because I'm a vapor and I totally disagree with all
1:27:14
these Chinese These crap vapes that who knows what's in
1:27:17
them, that'll probably kill you. And then they came up
1:27:21
with it'll cost you a million dollars per flavor that
1:27:24
you want to have the FDA approve. And this glass
1:27:29
company, which is some outfit in Los Angeles, they came
1:27:32
up with, oh, well, you have to link it with
1:27:35
Bluetooth to your phone, and then with a government ID,
1:27:38
I'm like, come on, this is all nuts. But this
1:27:43
is, there is something going on here, two sides. One
1:27:47
is the president, who promised this to young MAGA, I
1:27:52
can't remember it, but I think he did. Like, oh,
1:27:54
we're going to let you vape, kids. Vote for me.
1:27:57
And he also was having a meeting at one of
1:28:01
his golf courses with the big boys from tobacco who
1:28:04
are now switching from combustible products to nicotine, just pure
1:28:09
nicotine products. And they've spent a lot of money on
1:28:12
his election campaign, and they want this. They want the
1:28:16
vapes to be legal. and Durbin talked about this in
1:28:22
the Capitol. Tobacco companies have donated generously to Donald Trump's
1:28:27
election, his inauguration, his great Gatsby ballroom, with the expectation
1:28:32
of favoring the treatment President Trump's administration has delivered for
1:28:36
tobacco. Last week, the Food and Drug Administration... And I
1:28:40
just have to say, it has nothing to do with
1:28:42
tobacco. Nicotine is nicotine. It's not tobacco. And, you know,
1:28:48
there's all kinds of studies that say it can be
1:28:50
good. You know, having too much of anything is probably
1:28:53
never good, but it's not necessarily going to kill you.
1:28:57
Chinese vapes will probably kill you. Bad vapes, yeah, can
1:29:01
create formaldehyde. You can get pieces of... Yeah, and the
1:29:05
problem with cigarettes themselves is the tar. Yeah, but Durbin
1:29:09
makes it sound like it's all about tobacco, which it's
1:29:11
not. But it is true that the tobacco industry has
1:29:15
been moving to nicotine, and they certainly did support this
1:29:17
president. Did something it had never done before. After pressure
1:29:21
from President Trump, the FDA authorized the first ever flavored
1:29:25
e-cigarettes. Why is that important? That's what lures the children
1:29:30
into this deadly habit. Notice e-cigarettes. We're not calling it
1:29:34
vapes. We're calling it e-cigarettes. Deadly habits. Scientists, doctors, and
1:29:38
parents, even the FDA's own studies, all acknowledge sweet and
1:29:43
fruity flavored e-cigarettes are responsible for addicting our children. Health
1:29:48
experts I've spoken to believe the true number of high
1:29:51
school kids vaping is at least 40%. 40% of our
1:29:57
kids vaping. Yeah, the same 40% who ate vaping.
1:30:00
nicely colored Fruit Loops. I mean, none of it's good
1:30:04
for our kids. The number's bullcrap. Of course. Teachers, principals,
1:30:08
and students acknowledge these are not kids vaping to quit
1:30:13
cigarette smoking. These are kids who first became addicted to
1:30:16
nicotine because of flavored vaping. Why would an administration supposedly
1:30:21
committed to making America healthy again unleash this new wave
1:30:27
of addiction on our children? formaldehyde chromium heavy metals like
1:30:32
nickel and lead all are present in e-cigarettes a recent
1:30:36
study found that vaping is likely to cause cancer oh
1:30:39
yeah we should not trust big tobacco when they promise
1:30:42
they won't market to kids we know better all right
1:30:46
so obviously this was kind of funny and kimball made
1:30:50
some jokes about it and then you have the reported
1:30:52
beef between the president and his head of the FDA.
1:30:55
According to Wall Street Journal, Trump spent this weekend angrily
1:30:58
bullying FDA Commissioner Marty McCary, seen here moments after he
1:31:03
graduated from the School of Stock Footage Doctors. He berated
1:31:08
him for delaying approval of flavored electronic cigarettes. You may
1:31:12
remember Trump promised young MAGA that he would save vaping,
1:31:16
which is as noble a cause as there is. And
1:31:19
so like a kid giving up his lunch money, the
1:31:21
FDA finally authorized cotton candy flavored e-cigarettes. This is what's
1:31:26
important to him. Vape pens. He's definitely been in Florida
1:31:29
too long. All right. So I got no argument. I
1:31:33
like vaping. I think it's great. I think it should
1:31:35
be easier for people to make safe vapes. That's not
1:31:38
the point. This guy was pushed out for very different
1:31:42
reasons. And it surfaced on an interview on CNBC. You
1:31:45
know, to put it kind of bluntly, you've been getting
1:31:47
some not great press. And, you know, I'm curious just
1:31:52
today, Paranoia, turmoil, and backlash inside the FDA under Marty
1:31:56
McCary, President Trump's Marty McCary problem. These are very recent
1:32:00
stories, Bloomberg and the Wall Street Journal. A lot of
1:32:03
it does stem from frustration with patient populations and physicians,
1:32:08
which what they say is inexplicable decisions by the FDA
1:32:13
to not approve drugs. Replimune, for example, being a key
1:32:17
one. How do you respond to this overall criticism that,
1:32:21
I mean, continues to this very moment? Yeah. Yeah, I
1:32:24
think that article in The Wall Street Journal is the
1:32:26
ninth article they've posted in that opinion section begging for
1:32:31
Replimune's approval. I don't work for Replimune. I work for
1:32:35
the American people, and I stand by the scientists at
1:32:37
the FDA. Three independent teams arrived at the same conclusions.
1:32:41
On my watch, we have not done corrupt sweetheart deals.
1:32:44
What we have done is followed the science. So every
1:32:47
accept or reject decision at the FDA on my watch
1:32:50
has been the accept or reject recommendation of the primary
1:32:54
review teams at the agency. And, you know, I've spent
1:32:57
my whole career taking care of cancer patients. To suggest
1:33:00
that we want cancer patients to die is a little
1:33:03
offensive. So it's about Replimoon. Replimoon has all the big
1:33:10
boys behind it. I mean, you've got BlackRock. You've got
1:33:13
everyone has invested in this one company to make Replimune.
1:33:18
And it was supposed to be Replimune, isn't it? Well,
1:33:22
Replimune. Yes. Replimune. Are you familiar with it? Because it's
1:33:26
not in the market. I hope you're not using it.
1:33:29
I'm sure they'd love to pass it along. Well, no.
1:33:33
He was saying. There's a whole group called the Replimune
1:33:35
group. Yes. But he was saying, no, this thing is
1:33:39
no good. And these guys got not one, not two,
1:33:43
not three, but nine articles in the Wall Street Journal
1:33:46
opinion editors pushing for this drug. Well, final question, because
1:33:50
you referenced, you used the word corrupt when you described
1:33:53
sort of corporations. I'm just curious as to what you're
1:33:56
talking about. I'm talking about a small set of companies
1:34:01
have a trial that doesn't go their way. They call
1:34:03
you, they call CNBC, they call Wall Street Journal. They're
1:34:05
running ads on your network nonstop. and they say, hey,
1:34:08
this is wrong, the drug actually works when the trial
1:34:10
shows it didn't work. And they dial up tremendous pressure
1:34:12
in the media to drum up people, spin them up
1:34:15
on results that don't match the data that we see.
1:34:20
And what you see as a result are nine articles
1:34:22
by a couple editors in the opinion desk at the
1:34:26
Wall Street Journal pushing for one drug. What do you
1:34:29
call that? I know. Well, they would call it being
1:34:31
compassionate to the 8,000 people with melanoma who frontline treatment
1:34:35
failed. cancer surgeon i mean if there's anything that'll help
1:34:38
cancer patients a hundred percent we're going to get it
1:34:40
to them so final clip about what was wrong all
1:34:44
right well if you do that wait he's a cancer
1:34:47
surgeon i thought he was a dick surgeon no this
1:34:50
is a different guy this is the fda guy i
1:34:52
get mixed up you're still 15 minutes behind i am
1:34:55
yeah all right well if you do that i mean
1:34:58
i i just want to go through because to the
1:35:00
extent that i've been exposed to one story it has
1:35:02
been this one i've talked to the ceo as well
1:35:04
and any number of other people I am, yeah. they
1:35:25
see? Look, I'm not going to talk about an individual
1:35:27
product, but if you read what we call our complete
1:35:30
response letter, you will see the details of the FDA's
1:35:34
logic, and you will see some of those things shown
1:35:39
not to be correct. Can you give me something here
1:35:42
to hang on to just understand what some of the
1:35:45
details would be? So we publish it. We publish all
1:35:46
of it. So for example, if you want to see
1:35:49
whether or not a drug adds a benefit to cancer
1:35:53
patients, you run a control group where patients don't get
1:35:57
the drug. The FDA clearly recommended that control group. The
1:36:01
company clearly did not do that control group. And so
1:36:04
by law, we can only approve drugs with, quote, substantial
1:36:07
evidence. You went back and forth with them about that.
1:36:09
Didn't they say that that would be unfair to those
1:36:10
patients given the efficacy of the drug itself? The FDA
1:36:14
has had numerous meetings with almost every company that brings
1:36:18
products before it. The recommendations of the FDA were clear,
1:36:22
misrepresented in the media. How did they misrepresent? Well, saying
1:36:26
that they changed the goalposts. They don't change the goalposts.
1:36:29
So when we're talking about how hard it is for
1:36:31
RFK Jr. to do stuff, this is exactly what this
1:36:34
guy got pressed out. They threatened him. Who knows? Yeah,
1:36:40
that's why they came up with the vape thing. Yes,
1:36:43
exactly. No, that's what you do. You're pounding, you're pounding,
1:36:46
you're pounding, you're pounding, you say, well, hell with it.
1:36:47
Let's go after him some other way. Yep, and there
1:36:49
it is. We dream some scheme up here and we'll
1:36:52
go with this. What side is he on here? Well,
1:36:55
that's what Trump wanted to do. Okay, well, let's go
1:36:57
after him. Call Kimmel. Call Kimmel. Get him to make
1:37:00
some jokes. Yeah, you just keep doing it until the
1:37:04
guy gives up. This happened with a woman who just
1:37:06
quit the, I think she was the CDC or FDA.
1:37:11
And I had a clip. I didn't have a clip,
1:37:14
but I was going to discuss her. And she was
1:37:16
drummed out the same way. because this is major. If
1:37:23
you didn't have the pharmacy companies so big. And powerful.
1:37:27
It's shocking to me that Cassidy didn't get in because
1:37:30
he's supported by them. You even hear this guy saying,
1:37:35
hey, they're running ads on your network. Yeah, that's why
1:37:38
our CNBC guy is like, whoa, what's wrong with you?
1:37:40
I mean, it was a perfectly good drug. Everyone, the
1:37:44
CEO says, oh, what's that? The Wall Street Journal, nine
1:37:46
opinion pieces. There was money behind this. Big money. And
1:37:53
it was probably just for some stock win. I don't
1:37:56
think they have care about 8,000 melanoma patients. Well, there
1:38:00
was a stock at play. There had to be. So
1:38:04
that's what that's... No, it was. It was called Replimune.
1:38:07
Okay. And that's what all this... It's down to five
1:38:10
bucks a share now. Ah, there you go. Everyone lost
1:38:12
their shirt. So out you go. vapes we'll do something
1:38:17
we'll do something we'll make you look stupid yeah i
1:38:21
don't think trump is i don't think trump even knew
1:38:23
about this part no he can't keep up with this
1:38:26
stuff he can and he can barely do it uh
1:38:29
so um uh stephen colbert had his last show i
1:38:37
don't know if you saw it no i i'll go
1:38:39
back and look at it eventually they had david letterman
1:38:42
on and they threw stuff off the roof of the
1:38:44
CBS building. Yeah, I did see that. They clipped that
1:38:46
and put it online. Yeah, yeah, I saw that. And
1:38:51
we discussed this offline after the show one or two
1:38:54
shows ago. I'll just play this little brief bit about
1:38:58
his replacement. Meanwhile, fellow late-nighter Jimmy Kimmel joked at Disney's
1:39:02
annual upfronts about CBS replacing Colbert with Byron Allen's Comics
1:39:06
Unleashed. Quote, it's bad enough to lose your job. Imagine
1:39:10
getting replaced by the owner of the Weather Channel. So
1:39:13
Byron Allen will be replacing him. Our initial thought was,
1:39:20
go ahead. Pretty embarrassing. It's an insult. Yeah, it's an
1:39:26
insult. I mean, Byron Allen is something of a genius
1:39:29
entrepreneur, a billionaire. And he's been doing the same kind
1:39:34
of schlock programming forever. although he does when it comes
1:39:38
to the food stuff he has a number of of
1:39:41
foodie uh productions that he does that are extremely well
1:39:45
produced but most of his stuff is just you know
1:39:48
because byron allen who's a black guy it is a
1:39:52
wannabe comic who's not funny yeah but he's got a
1:39:56
knack for producing kind of
1:40:00
low-budget, mid-quality material, and he's been doing it forever. Way
1:40:06
before we started this show, he was doing stuff, and
1:40:09
he has this Comics Unleashed show, which is terrible. I
1:40:15
mean, it's just not well done, but it's cheap. It's
1:40:19
super cheap. So that's how he's made his money, leverage.
1:40:23
Here's the kicker. CBS didn't replace Stephen Colbert with Byron
1:40:28
Allen. he is paying for the time slot oh that
1:40:33
would make sense he bought the time slot that makes
1:40:36
total sense yeah and he's probably it's probably going to
1:40:40
be more profitable than any of the other late night
1:40:42
shows because yeah because it's what he does and he's
1:40:45
going to make good money off of that yeah it's
1:40:48
like a infomercial yes exactly you buy those slots spots
1:40:52
exactly and then everyone else is going to go you
1:40:55
know you'll see nbc the network actually instead of losing
1:40:58
40 million dollars a year will be making money doing
1:41:01
nothing yes for something that almost no one watches anyway
1:41:04
yes infomercial level a couple million people of which none
1:41:09
are in the demo no right you want you want
1:41:12
to sell medical devices you want to sell that phone
1:41:15
i didn't know that but now that you mentioned genius
1:41:18
right that's why byron allen is a billionaire he's something
1:41:21
of a genius in terms of TV. It's schlock, but
1:41:28
it's still. What are you going to do? What TV
1:41:31
is good? I mean, it's all schlock. Ever since Dana
1:41:34
Brunetti stopped producing shows, it's just gone downhill. Yeah. I'm
1:41:39
doing this to get out of a lawsuit, by the
1:41:41
way. Oh, he's... Good old Dana. Yeah, that guy. I
1:41:47
heard that he hates Hollywood. I love telling my church
1:41:51
people. Yeah, you know, Danny Brunetti, big Hollywood guy, he
1:41:55
listens to the show. He's kind of a friend. What
1:41:57
did he do? Fifty Shades of Grey? What? That's pornography.
1:42:04
No, that was Fifty Shades of Grey. That was the
1:42:06
bad one. Yeah. House of Cards. There was a trilogy.
1:42:10
There was three? Money, yeah. Three money makers, yeah, of
1:42:15
course. Of course, that's why he has a fire truck
1:42:18
and a farm. And we're podcasters. I'm just saying. Well,
1:42:22
you know, we got cash flow. All right. You got
1:42:31
anything else you want to do? Yeah, let's see before
1:42:32
we have it yeah i want to do um you
1:42:36
know what the sharia law clip is always good sharia
1:42:39
law in the usa big thread i find this to
1:42:42
be kind of kind of hopeless but let's play these
1:42:45
clips and lawmakers warn that groups in support of sharia
1:42:49
law have a long-term goal of widespread influence here in
1:42:53
the u.s warnings of Korea's authoritarian nature and social class
1:42:57
divisions based on sex and religion. They point to already
1:43:01
existing Sharia-based tribunal courts happening in Texas and the United
1:43:05
Kingdom. NDD correspondent Jason Blair brings us that story. People
1:43:09
do not have protection from imposing a foreign legal system
1:43:13
or code that overrides or replaces U.S. civil or criminal
1:43:16
law, nor the Constitution. House Republicans warn that stronger action
1:43:20
needs to be taken to curb the rise of Sharia
1:43:23
law tribunals and acting courts in the U.S. Political Islam
1:43:27
silences dissent, prohibits religious freedom, allows barbaric punishments, and treats
1:43:31
women, children, and non-Muslims as second-class citizens. At a congressional
1:43:35
hearing Wednesday, one witness said many Islamic groups have openly
1:43:38
stated their long-term intent of gradually making the U.S. an
1:43:42
Islamic society. society. They've written it down in the project
1:43:45
in a 12-point plan. You can read it for yourself.
1:43:48
They've come to make this country like they've made countries
1:43:52
all across the world Islamic. Amy Meckleberg, founder of Rare
1:43:55
Foundation USA, says there are Sharia-based tribunal services operating in
1:44:00
America. All across different places throughout the United States, from
1:44:03
birth to death, they now have full operational societies. So
1:44:08
within these societies, they have their courts. Subcommittee Chairman Chip
1:44:12
Roy says that the UK has 85 Sharia law courts
1:44:15
operating in the country. Muslims are increasingly turning to Sharia
1:44:18
courts to settle disputes rather than the UK's legal system.
1:44:22
He said UK. Yeah. Yeah. So it's called arbitration. That's
1:44:31
what that is. It's arbitration. Well, whatever it is, in
1:44:38
the UK it seems to be somewhat popular with certain
1:44:40
groups of people. Amongst the Muslims. Yeah, well, that's what
1:44:43
they do. It's just like the nature that it's going
1:44:47
to take over the US and we're going to do
1:44:49
this. Oh, please. This is nonsense. This is midterm fear-mongering
1:44:54
is what this is. Vote for Chip Roy. Vote for
1:44:57
Chip Roy. Yeah, Chip roy he's your buddy he's a
1:45:00
texas boy i'll stop the i'll stop the the muslim
1:45:03
um compounds in texas and whenever i say this people
1:45:07
are always like look at this man this happening is
1:45:10
real yeah maybe but we're a little just look at
1:45:14
the percentage of muslims in the united states and what
1:45:16
their influence is most muslims in the united states are
1:45:19
not for this stuff no and we don't have open
1:45:22
borders where crazy Muslims are coming in, and we don't
1:45:28
have a society where we allow, at least we should
1:45:31
not, where we allow them to fire up their loudspeakers
1:45:36
five times a day and have them stop and bow
1:45:40
in the middle of the street. Now, you may see
1:45:44
some videos about that, but that kind of stuff usually
1:45:47
doesn't fly in America. This is different. Europe is like,
1:45:51
oh, no, this is multicultural. We have to be nice
1:45:53
to everybody and it took 25 years if not almost
1:45:58
30 the praying in the middle of the street doesn't
1:46:01
fly in saudi arabia either but you know people are
1:46:04
online though it's happening and if it's happening in your
1:46:08
town then you should put a stop to it that
1:46:12
we can do but that didn't happen in europe i
1:46:15
saw this in the netherlands i saw when and look
1:46:17
they did a great job when Pim Fortin was running
1:46:20
for election and his party won after they killed him
1:46:26
to assassinated him two weeks before the election, he was
1:46:29
saying, do not allow the Islamification of the Netherlands. And
1:46:34
he got killed and then everybody shut up, went, oh
1:46:37
I probably shouldn't say anything about Islam and still took
1:46:41
25 years to get to where it is today. We
1:46:44
have a lot of runway to stop anything nefarious. But
1:46:49
you are being played. You are being played and I
1:46:53
think it's, you know, there's these geofencing operations. You heard
1:46:57
about this? Yeah, I have. Apparently, Israel has been paying
1:47:04
companies in America to pop up ads and manipulate algos
1:47:11
geofenced around churches, particularly in California, but also in Texas,
1:47:15
in the Dallas area, Austin. and part of their geo-fencing
1:47:19
is Israel great and part of it is Islam no
1:47:24
good. Be careful, be afraid. So you're being played on
1:47:27
all sides. But I agree with you. The influence is
1:47:31
not that great. Oh, man, the amount of people. This
1:47:34
is our next Waterloo. Part two. Part two. Rep. Jamie
1:47:41
Raskin argues that no special laws against Sharia law are
1:47:45
necessary because of the existence of current U.S. law. Murder
1:47:49
is against the law in America. whether the parents are
1:47:54
Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, or anything else. Another witness who's
1:47:58
a high school student in Texas says his Republican student
1:48:02
club faced hostile scrutiny and censorship by school officials in
1:48:07
stark contrast to pro-Sharia groups. While the Republican student club
1:48:10
faced denial, censorship, poster removal, and hostile oversight, an outside
1:48:14
organization was given easy access to distribute Sharia-related materials directly
1:48:17
to students. Administrators not only allowed it, they actively promoted
1:48:20
Islamic events. Throughout the hearing, Democrats argued that existing U.S.
1:48:23
law is enough to deter any threats. While Republicans called
1:48:27
for urgent action citing Sharia-based tribunals and early warning signs
1:48:32
in Europe and Texas. Reporting on Capitol Hill, Jason Blair,
1:48:36
NTD News. Next, today is World Fallen Dafa Day. So,
1:48:41
if you ask anyone, what is Sharia law? Wait for
1:48:45
the answer. what is the what is sharia law everyone
1:48:50
thinks that somehow well it's going to supersede american law
1:48:54
no and i have to agree with raskin with on
1:48:56
that case it's not going to supersede american law you
1:48:59
can't go killing people but that's also not what sharia
1:49:02
law is like you stole my chicken you know i
1:49:05
get to take some beads it's not gonna chop your
1:49:09
hand off it's not quite that extreme Yeah, I haven't
1:49:13
seen that take place yet. Have we seen a good
1:49:16
stoning in America yet? A good Sharia law stoning? There's
1:49:20
been a lot of people that have been stoned, but
1:49:22
not in that way. If Sharia law suddenly, and then
1:49:27
you can go stone a girl because she kissed a
1:49:30
boy, that is against the law in America. You can't
1:49:34
go stoning people. But it's a meme now. Oh, Sharia
1:49:38
law, Sharia law. please tell me what is Sharia law?
1:49:41
Trolls, because the trolls are all into this. What is
1:49:44
Sharia law? They can't tell you. It's fear-mongering to get
1:49:50
your vote for Chip Roy and Ken Paxton and a
1:49:55
bunch of other guys. So we have a
1:50:01
we've got a couple of things. I do have a
1:50:03
3x3. We can do that and get out of here.
1:50:05
Oh, well, 3x3 is always fun. Now it's time for
1:50:08
3x3. Yes, Experiment by JCD. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS,
1:50:15
and NBC. The never-ending 3x3. That's right, he's got the
1:50:20
big three. And it's a story that will probably sound
1:50:22
exactly the same on all three networks, but there's always
1:50:25
a twist. You never know what these CIA broadcast systems
1:50:27
will do. Yeah, that's where we leave them for last.
1:50:30
And we start with the ABC people about the terrorist
1:50:32
attack. Tonight, an Iraqi national is in U.S. custody accused
1:50:36
of orchestrating terror attacks like these, taking aim at American
1:50:39
and Jewish targets around the world in retaliation for the
1:50:43
war in Iran. Federal prosecutors charging Mohammed al-Sadi with a
1:50:46
slew of terror-related crimes, alleging he coordinated 20 terror attacks
1:50:50
in Europe and Canada in the last three months and
1:50:53
eyed additional attacks in the U.S., identifying targets in California,
1:50:58
Arizona, and New York City. He has been trying to
1:51:00
inspire jihad around the world through the Internet. Prosecutors linked
1:51:06
al-Sadi to this stabbing in London that left two Jewish
1:51:08
men, including an American citizen, seriously injured. Drop the knife!
1:51:13
To this attempted arson at Bank of New York Mellon
1:51:16
in Amsterdam. And this firebombing of a synagogue in North
1:51:20
Macedonia. Al-Sadi was apprehended this week in Turkey. In court
1:51:24
today, he claimed he's a political prisoner being persecuted for
1:51:27
his ties to Iranian General Qasem Soleimani, the military commander
1:51:31
killed by a U.S. airstrike in 2020. He's essentially being
1:51:35
subjected to a political prosecution, that he's a prisoner of
1:51:40
war and should be treated as such. But when federal
1:51:42
prosecutors portrayed al-Sadi as a terrorist mastermind who they said
1:51:46
successfully coordinated attacks overseas and paid undercover agents to carry
1:51:52
out more attacks in this country. Undercover agents. This guy's
1:51:58
powerful. Sketchy story. Powerful. Very powerful. NBC. Tonight, the FBI
1:52:04
and NYPD saying they've foiled potential terror attacks against Jewish
1:52:08
sites in New York, L.A., and Scottsdale, Arizona. Plots, they
1:52:13
say, are all tied to the Iranian regime. This man,
1:52:16
Mohammed al-Sadi, now held in a New York jail cell,
1:52:19
is an alleged high-ranking member of the mysterious terror group
1:52:22
called HAYI. What? Authorities say they've already carried out 18
1:52:28
terror attacks in Europe, primarily targeting the Jewish community, including
1:52:33
this suspect, tackled by British police after a stabbing rampage
1:52:37
outside a London mosque and the group carrying out the
1:52:40
firebombing of this Belgian synagogue. Tonight, the FBI says HAYI
1:52:45
is a front for the Iranian-backed terror group Hezbollah, and
1:52:48
they say al-Sahdi's ties go right to the top of
1:52:51
the Iranian regime. Multiple photos show al-Sahdi with former Iranian
1:52:55
Revolutionary Guard Corps commander Qusim Soleimani killed in a U.S.
1:52:59
drone strike during President Trump's first term. Ah, there it
1:53:02
is. This is Trump's fault. Al-Saudi has specifically threatened to
1:53:06
kill President Trump on social media. He is certainly a
1:53:09
leader in this terrorist organization, and he was directing and
1:53:14
inspiring terrorist attacks. These photos, exclusively obtained by NBC News,
1:53:18
show his arrival in New York last night after he
1:53:21
was taken into custody by Turkish authorities, according to prosecutors.
1:53:24
They say since April he's been communicating with an undercover
1:53:27
officer offering to pay tens of thousands of dollars to
1:53:31
attack Jewish sites in the U.S. Oh. Tom, these are
1:53:36
alarming developments. The suspect was in court today. He appeared
1:53:40
briefly in court. His attorney says he thinks he's a
1:53:42
prisoner of war. Meanwhile, authorities believe the case underscores the
1:53:46
wide variety of threats for events like the World Cup
1:53:49
starting next month. Oh, yes. Now, let me ask you
1:53:53
some questions about this. That was cute getting the World
1:53:55
Cup in there. Yeah, yeah. Let me ask some questions.
1:53:58
So was he communicating with an undercover officer on our
1:54:03
side, like one of our FBI guys? Is that how
1:54:05
they nailed this guy? Well, wasn't it clearly explained in
1:54:09
the report? No, I didn't think it was clearly explained.
1:54:11
They keep talking about he paid agents around the world
1:54:15
to do stuff. He was linked to Soleimani, Trump's trophy.
1:54:21
So I'm just waiting for this to be Trump's fault.
1:54:26
And that synagogue in Amsterdam, they locked off a whole
1:54:31
part of the city. You can't even drive in certain
1:54:33
directions because of that. But I didn't hear anything about
1:54:36
this. So like some nut jobs, but I didn't hear
1:54:39
any connections to this guy. I don't know. This whole
1:54:42
thing is fishy. Appearing in a federal court in Manhattan
1:54:45
today, Mohammed al-Sadi smiled as a judge read off the
1:54:52
list of terrorism charges. Arrested in Turkey in the last
1:54:55
24 hours and extradited to New York, al-Sadi is accused
1:54:58
of trying to hire someone who happened to be an
1:55:01
undercover officer. Now it's clear. Carry out attacks in Los
1:55:04
Angeles, Scottsdale, Arizona and New York City. Well, the system
1:55:07
worked then. We stopped him. New York City Police Commissioner
1:55:10
Jessica Tisch said, we disrupted a plan to attack a
1:55:13
Manhattan synagogue and in partnership with the synagogue's leadership, ensured
1:55:16
its security when the threat was elevated. Prosecutors say on
1:55:19
April 3rd, Al-Sadi sent maps of a New York synagogue
1:55:22
and Jewish centers in LA and Scottsdale to the undercover
1:55:25
officer, agreeing to pay him $10,000. In the next day, al-Sadi
1:55:29
is alleged to have sent $3,000 in crypto as a down
1:55:33
payment for the New York attack, texting, I want to
1:55:35
see good news tonight, not tomorrow, bro. Prosecutors say al-Sadi
1:55:39
is the commander of Kata'i Hezbollah. Bro, wait a minute.
1:55:42
Where is this guy? Is he New Jersey? Bro. Al-Sadi
1:55:46
is alleged to have sent $3,000 in crypto as a down
1:55:50
payment for the New York attack, texting, I want to
1:55:52
see good news tonight, not tomorrow, bro. Prosecutors say al-Sahdi
1:55:56
is a commander of Kataib Hezbollah, an Iran-backed terrorist group
1:55:59
with ties to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. He's pictured here
1:56:02
with the late Iranian general Qasem Soleimani, killed by a
1:56:06
U.S. drone strike in 2020 on orders from President Trump.
1:56:09
His defense attorney said al-Sahdi is being punished for his
1:56:11
ties to Soleimani. This case is a political case, and
1:56:16
it's a political prosecution, and we're going to be litigating
1:56:20
it as such. Prosecutors also say after the war began,
1:56:23
al-Sadi helped launch... Wait a minute, wait a minute. He
1:56:26
called it a political case? Well, that's what he calls
1:56:30
it. Well, isn't that just terrorism? That's an interesting point.
1:56:36
For his ties to Soleimani. This case is a political
1:56:39
case, and it's a political prosecution, and we're going to
1:56:45
be litigating it as such. Prosecutors also say after the
1:56:48
war began, al-Saudi helped launch 18 terror attacks across Europe,
1:56:52
including on a synagogue and a Jewish school in Belgium,
1:56:54
and the stabbing of two Jewish men in London last
1:56:57
month. CBS contributor Sam Vinograd said retaliatory acts of terrorism
1:57:01
could become more common. Even when drones, missiles and more
1:57:06
stop flying over Iranian airspace, it is more than likely
1:57:10
that these military campaigns have inspired a generation of individuals
1:57:14
to continue to try to wreak havoc and al-sadi is
1:57:20
facing multiple terrorism charges including providing material support for acts
1:57:24
of terrorism if convicted major he could face up to
1:57:27
life in prison Yeah. Whenever we have like, he hired
1:57:32
an undercover cop of, it doesn't even mention if it
1:57:35
was FBI or not an agent. And then he sent
1:57:39
him some crypto and used bro. I'm like, this guy
1:57:42
was some, probably some schmuck. And then they found a
1:57:47
picture of him with Soleimani. It sounds sketchy to me.
1:57:50
Well, maybe you could be right, but I think it's
1:57:52
just a maniac. and he's got a boatload he's got
1:57:58
a bunch of cash and he's crypto traveling all over
1:58:01
the place like he goes to Macedonia then he's in
1:58:04
Turkey then he's in Holland and then he's in New
1:58:06
York well no no he hired people to do that
1:58:08
stuff yeah but he's been floating around too he didn't
1:58:12
do it from Turkey he's not hiring anybody to blow
1:58:14
up a synagogue in Arizona from Turkey there's nobody there's
1:58:21
no connection there's no it's not possible he's got to
1:58:23
come over here to do some of that stuff. The
1:58:25
good news is he's off the streets. The FBI has
1:58:28
done it again. We're safe. Sleep well, citizen. Go back
1:58:32
to playing your harpsichord, citizen. Everything is well. And by
1:58:36
the way, my last clip is Harvey Weinstein. We're not
1:58:40
safe because he's going to be out of jail. To
1:58:43
the index now, a judge declared a mistrial in Harvey
1:58:45
Weinstein's rape retrial. The decision after a jury in Manhattan
1:58:49
could not reach a unanimous verdict following three days of
1:58:53
deliberations. deliberations this was the third time weinstein was tried
1:58:56
on accusations he raped an aspiring actress in a hotel
1:58:59
room in 2013 weinstein's lawyers argued the sexual encounter was
1:59:03
consensual a hearing next month could determine if there will
1:59:07
be a fourth trial that is that is odd isn't
1:59:11
it yeah well then i have two clips just to
1:59:14
wind it all up because that we're going to open
1:59:17
reopen been Epstein trials, more trials coming. And the Democrats...
1:59:23
Oh, great. That's terrific. How many people have gone to
1:59:26
jail so far? Well, one person is... They want blood
1:59:29
and they have a target on one guy. Okay. Here's
1:59:33
the MS now setting us up. On the committee, heard
1:59:35
dramatic testimony from survivors at a field hearing this week
1:59:38
in Palm Beach County, where many of Epstein's crimes took
1:59:41
place. When I was 14 years old, I was abused
1:59:45
by Jeffrey Epstein. He abused me until I was 17
1:59:48
years old. What happened to me was terrible, but what
1:59:51
happened after that by our own government changed my life
1:59:55
just as much. I came here today to ask for
1:59:59
one simple thing.
2:00:00
to make sure this never happens again. I kept my
2:00:03
identity protected as Jane Doe. I woke up one day
2:00:08
with my name mentioned over 500 times. While the rich
2:00:17
and powerful remained protected by reduction, my name was exposed
2:00:20
to the world. Okay, so both of them say that
2:00:25
they were abused by the U.S. government. You wanted to
2:00:30
say something? No, I was going to say they got
2:00:33
outed by the U.S. government. Yeah, but I think the
2:00:36
first one said it was worse. Yeah. So the Democrats
2:00:42
in this case want blood, and I think they'll get
2:00:45
it. I think they'll get it, and it's about one
2:00:48
guy and one guy only. But let's turn now, sir,
2:00:50
to the Epstein investigation, because all House oversight Democrats are
2:00:54
calling for Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick to resign over his
2:00:57
Epstein testimony. What should the American people know about his
2:01:01
interview and how it fits into the overall probe? Look,
2:01:06
no one should be serving the American people, certainly not
2:01:08
as a cabinet secretary, when you are essentially a known
2:01:11
liar and unwilling to tell the truth. When you lie
2:01:14
to the public and you're not honest in a deposition
2:01:17
in front of the Congress. We all have seen Howard
2:01:21
Lutnick in multiple times say that after 2005, he had
2:01:24
no interaction with Jeffrey Epstein. that he had known very
2:01:27
well. And now we just know that that wasn't true.
2:01:29
We know that he went to the island, that he
2:01:31
went into business with Jeffrey Epstein, that he communicated, his
2:01:33
wife communicated with him. And so then to them, him
2:01:36
go into this interview with Congress and not admit to
2:01:39
that and evade. Look, he needs to resign or be
2:01:43
fired. He has lied to the American people. And that
2:01:46
is nothing. That's not something a cabinet secretary should be
2:01:49
doing. And beyond that, this points back to this massive
2:01:52
cover up. Howard Lutnick has been involved at the White
2:01:55
House, continuing to cover up for the DOJ, telling lies,
2:02:00
and he's got to go. Yeah, I think he will.
2:02:02
I think that's the scalp they want now. Why? Just
2:02:07
to do it. Ludnick's just a nutnik. He's a commerce
2:02:11
guy. Who cares? Yeah, he's important to Trump because of
2:02:14
the USDC. He's the big stablecoin guy. Oh, okay. Yeah,
2:02:21
he's a big stablecoin guy. I know he's the guy
2:02:24
that Musk wanted to be Secretary of the Treasury. He's
2:02:28
a big Lutnik fan. Oh, I'm glad we got General
2:02:32
Patton on the down low. That guy's much better. Yeah,
2:02:36
much better. More fun. Speaking of Treasury, this podcast runs
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You might want to listen a little bit further because
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Good to have you here. And congratulations with your profile
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these trolls are just listening patiently. They're just listening to
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opportunity, it is. We're reinventing radio. Do you know that
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podcasts have now surpassed talk radio? Well, that doesn't surprise
2:04:23
me. There's still like some obscene number, like $40 billion in
2:04:31
advertising going to radio. It's unbelievable how much money they
2:04:35
still get. Well, that's going to disappear one of these
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days. Yeah, but it doesn't seem to be going to
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podcasts. You notice how the Pivot Pod, they thought that
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they were going to sell their show. Eh, I don't
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think so. They're just still sitting with the same old
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outfit. Yeah, they were thinking of selling for $10 million, $100 million
2:04:52
or something. $100 million. Rogan money, they were talking. Yeah,
2:04:55
Rogan money. Rogan money, yeah. Until it turns out, nah,
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not really. It really isn't all that. So get one
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Of course, treasure is extremely important for us to keep
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our home fires burning. But people do fun things. They
2:05:17
do a lot of cool stuff for the show. send
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boots on the ground, jingles, clips, end-of-show mixes, organize meetups,
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and sometimes just, you know, just troll us. That's also
2:05:29
a form of time and talent, I guess. And then
2:05:33
we have the artists who prompt away and make artwork
2:05:36
for our album art, which is critical to the success
2:05:40
of the show because it looks really great on social
2:05:43
media. People love it. And we always can, it's kind
2:05:47
of a feedback mechanism for us as well. When we
2:05:49
really hit on something, then we see a whole bunch
2:05:52
of art pieces that show up about that one thing.
2:05:55
And then we know that we succeeded in our mission.
2:05:58
We made you laugh. We made you cry. We made
2:06:01
you think about something. And this was very prevalent with
2:06:05
the Num Nuts, which is the artwork done by Francisco
2:06:09
Scaramanga. Num Nuts is what I called some members of
2:06:14
our intelligence agency, the central one. and it was a
2:06:18
great piece. We loved the candied macadamias. And then did
2:06:21
you see what he did on X? The video? Yeah,
2:06:24
he got a picture. You was looking like some sort
2:06:26
of a thug. Smoking, smoking. Smoking stuff. And yeah, it
2:06:32
was good. It was fantastic. I'm like, can we get
2:06:35
animated art for an album? I have to see if
2:06:38
we can make that. That should be something that the
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modern podcast apps do. How cool would that be? To
2:06:43
have a little video playing. That would be cool. You
2:06:47
had to make that part of the podcasting 2.0 spec.
2:06:52
I'm on it, both. I'm on it. Let's take a
2:06:54
look at what else was submitted at noagendaartgenerator.com. A lot
2:06:58
of value in that operation from Sir Paul Couture. Let
2:07:02
us take a look here. We had some butts. We
2:07:05
had butts. That's a comic strip blogger. Oh, we had
2:07:07
a lot of pomp and ceremony. There's another one. Got
2:07:11
a lot of pomp and ceremony, art pieces. A lot
2:07:14
of poop on the marble. Man, that really hit. Huh?
2:07:19
Poop on the marble. And then the mousetrap with the
2:07:22
cheese and the chocolate. Did you see the note that
2:07:25
came in that someone said the mask finally slipped and
2:07:28
you're actually a sadist and a very, very evil human?
2:07:30
Oh, yeah. I was talking about it. I got one
2:07:33
of those notes too. There's two of them. That I'm
2:07:36
a terrible person for crushing a mouse. Now, the fact
2:07:40
is that that was just a joke. If you want
2:07:44
to know what really happens when I get a mouse
2:07:46
in a glue trap, because I'm fearful of getting mouse
2:07:50
fleas that hit me, I actually take a plastic bag
2:07:54
and slowly kick the mouse in the trap into the
2:07:58
bag and then seal the plastic bag and throw it
2:08:01
in the garbage as fast as I can. So he's
2:08:03
alive in the garbage and he just dies slowly in
2:08:06
the garbage? He's dead already. Usually they're dead already. They
2:08:09
die in that little thing. So this morning, I was
2:08:12
up at five. So the guys who made these comments,
2:08:15
I think there's a couple of them, they're idiots, okay?
2:08:19
It's just that simple. This morning, I'm sitting in the
2:08:22
kitchen at 5 a.m. And it's kind of half dark.
2:08:25
And I see something out of the corner of my
2:08:26
eye. And I'm telling you, a mouse walked right across
2:08:29
the floor. I'm like, wow, I can't wait to use
2:08:32
John's glue trap system. It's great. Well, you know, some
2:08:37
of these mice have a lot of nerve. Oh, he
2:08:40
was bold. Yeah. He was very bold. I'm going to
2:08:43
get him. No, you'll get him. You have to be
2:08:45
careful because they start to multiply pretty quickly. Yeah, but
2:08:48
I know how to get him. I know how to
2:08:49
get him. And then, you know, just like the ants,
2:08:52
I always leave them in the trap for half a
2:08:54
day. So everyone can smell them. So they know. This
2:08:56
is death over here, people. Don't come near this one.
2:08:59
Well, that's an interesting theory. Well, it's your theory. It's
2:09:02
what you want to do after you torch the ants.
2:09:04
Yeah. How about you do that? You want to leave
2:09:06
that torch smell. A lot of people, like on the
2:09:09
blueberry tip, man, the blueberry in the hallway, that got
2:09:13
a lot of art. None of it was really fantastic,
2:09:16
I have to say. yeah which is we thought the
2:09:21
number a lot of submissions though yeah which is good
2:09:25
we like that people are keeping busy keeping the AI
2:09:29
companies unprofitable so thank you very much Scaramanga Francisco you
2:09:38
know did I tell you his wife is some supermodel
2:09:40
or some like model no I never heard this yeah
2:09:44
comics or blogger told me he's seen a picture of
2:09:47
her And he says, he's like, it's a model. It's
2:09:50
kind of makes sense. Good for him. Yeah. Yeah. The
2:09:53
guy's lucky. He could be a podcaster. He's probably doing,
2:09:56
he's probably, he's probably independently wealthy.
2:10:01
You know what I mean? One of those guys. We
2:10:03
can dream up whatever we want. That's right. With a
2:10:06
name like Scaramanga, it could be anything. So now we
2:10:10
would like to thank the people who supported us with
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Treasure. We thank everybody, $50 and above. And if you are
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You can even become a consultant, I think, on some
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movies if you want or podcasts. $300 or more, the
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same deal. We'd read your note and you'll get a
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credit of executive producer. We still have a few Order
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of the Red Heart, Order of the Heart, Red Nights,
2:10:59
available, which is just that beautiful package that you get.
2:11:03
And that was kind of a promo to welcome you
2:11:06
back to the world of the living. And I think
2:11:09
we'll have one, if not two of them today, because
2:11:12
we start with Samuel Montgomery from Arvada, Colorado, who comes
2:11:16
in with $1,000 plus fees. So that's $1,030 and 26 cents. Thank
2:11:21
you for saving us the fees. And he says, ITM
2:11:24
John and Adam, first time donor. I'm a registered cardiovascular
2:11:28
invasive specialist. I've been that for 20 years. I'm going
2:11:32
to give him a deduce. You've been deduced. I assist
2:11:37
with performing cardiac cath procedures, which I assume John had
2:11:42
prior to his open heart surgery. It is an honor
2:11:45
to become a Red Knight. Did you have a cardiac
2:11:49
cath procedure? They run this thing up your leg. Oh,
2:11:54
in your leg? Well, they start in the leg, the
2:11:57
top of the part of the leg, and then they
2:11:59
run this thing up the veins or something, and they
2:12:02
just run it up there to check it. And then
2:12:04
they send some horrible dye into your system that then
2:12:09
poisons your kidneys. And then I could go on and
2:12:13
on about this. And then I had to go on
2:12:17
dialysis for like a month and a half to get
2:12:20
this poison out of the system. Does dialysis, does that
2:12:22
hurt? Does it suck? What's that like? Actually, not being
2:12:27
on it is nice. Yes. But when you're on it,
2:12:32
it's like you can nap through it. Oh. So it's
2:12:38
dozed off. But it's, no, it doesn't hurt at all.
2:12:41
It's actually, it's just annoyingly waste of time because it
2:12:44
takes forever. Jay, Jay, Jay, please get a picture of
2:12:47
John napping during dialysis. Too late. Oh, you don't have
2:12:51
to do it anymore? No, no, I haven't done it
2:12:54
for a month now. Good. I'm good. I'm happy to
2:12:56
hear that. How about the fluids? Is that over now?
2:13:00
No, I still had some fluids drained the other day.
2:13:03
Yeah. I'm actually kind of clear right now, so I
2:13:05
have a more sonorous voice. You do. I can make
2:13:08
deeper sounds. It's a few. And I don't know when
2:13:14
that's getting. And that's getting annoying because they have this
2:13:17
one guy who's actually pretty good at it, doing these
2:13:19
thoracentesis where they stick. So this guy's really good at
2:13:25
it. It doesn't hurt, and it's actually quite pleasant. So
2:13:29
the time before last, the guy, this guy's name's Hans.
2:13:35
He's excellent at this. His name is Hans? Hans. Hans,
2:13:40
yes. He's actually more of an Asian. But anyway, so
2:13:44
he says, I have a resident here who wants to
2:13:47
observe so he can do this too. and would you
2:13:52
mind having that happen? And you being a nice guy,
2:13:55
you went, yeah, sure, no problem. I went, sure, yeah,
2:13:57
no problem. And that was a mistake. Because instead of
2:14:04
the normal, you know, the way he normally soothes, the
2:14:08
way he does the whole shivs you with the needle
2:14:11
to drain you, it goes like this. Okay, here's what
2:14:15
I'm doing now. I'm going between the third and fourth
2:14:17
rib. And notice that as it goes into the cavity
2:14:22
between the ribs, and he's describing this, the whole process.
2:14:26
And it's disconcerting, to say the least. So people out
2:14:31
there don't have an intern or a resident watch anything.
2:14:38
It was disgusting. I'm so sorry. But was it less
2:14:43
fluid than normal? Are we on the uptake here? Are
2:14:46
we doing better with this? Yeah, I think barely, yes.
2:14:51
Because I don't want you to have to have an
2:14:52
operation for that. No, it's just the whole thing. It's
2:14:56
just annoying. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, fluid. Are you going
2:14:59
to go home soon? Are you going to go back
2:15:00
home? Yeah, I can probably get there now. I mean,
2:15:03
but, you know, it's kind of comfortable being waited on.
2:15:09
Oh, my back hurts. Can somebody get me an aspirin?
2:15:16
I'm with you. I hear you. It's comfortable. Nice. All
2:15:20
right. All right. onward with Steve Slocum, who also came
2:15:27
in with $1,000. Hello, Adam and John. My name is Steve
2:15:32
Slocum from Columbia Station, Ohio. Long-time listener, first-time donor. Let's
2:15:37
deduce him. I started listening. Let's deduce him. Let's deduce
2:15:40
him. I mean, he didn't ask for it, but... You've
2:15:43
been deduced. Deduction. I started... Yeah, good. I started listening
2:15:48
after Adam's first Rogan appearance. Oh, Rogan donation. Rogan. this
2:15:52
information is a bit late but i felt it was
2:15:56
relevant to the show i'd worked in one of the
2:15:59
country's largest va health care facilities before and during and
2:16:04
after covid the messaging this country received during that period
2:16:08
of time was dramatically different than what was happening in
2:16:12
these facilities veterans with active covid diagnosis were forced to
2:16:18
isolate in patient rooms together for extended periods of time
2:16:22
when social distancing was arguably at its worst. It was
2:16:27
sickening to witness the lies firsthand. Thanks to the two
2:16:31
of you and all the producers during that time for
2:16:34
providing grounded, relevant information to keep some sanity in the
2:16:38
world. Well, thank you belatedly. With my $1,000 Bitcoin donation. Nice.
2:16:46
I guess it would be. Yeah, it did come in
2:16:49
as Bitcoin, yeah. I would like to claim an instantitehood
2:16:52
of the Order of the Heart to assist with John's
2:16:54
recovery. I'd like to claim Sir Steve as my official
2:16:58
title. Request Reverend Manning Bitcoin jingle as well as health
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karma for all. Thanks, gentlemen. They're saying that all hell
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is going to break loose and you're going to need
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a Bitcoin. You've got karma. Lovely. There you go. You
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know, a lot of people forget what we did during
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COVID. They forget what we told you about Ukraine. They
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forget all these things. And then they'll yell at us
2:17:27
for things. And then in five years, we'll be like,
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yeah. back a couple years late yeah it's all right
2:17:32
now it's all right it's all right we can handle
2:17:35
it 2026 what do you say we make this show
2:17:39
an even 20 years 20 years there you go we're
2:17:43
getting there sir e61 black sheep ah now this is
2:17:47
time towns and treasure all in one he's the guy
2:17:51
that i was talking about earlier. Yeah. He gave us...
2:17:55
Sir E61, is that some rank? No, I think that's
2:17:58
a Nokia phone. But maybe it is. I don't know.
2:18:02
He's in Johnson City, Tennessee. But he's not because he's
2:18:05
boogying out of Kuwait. He says, I sent Adam an
2:18:08
update, which is $343.75, which might have been $333.33 with fees.
2:18:13
We evacuated. You get real time here, fellas. So there
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you go. Treasure, talent and time all in one. Thank
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coming in from Tampa, Florida. We recognize the name, 33333
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ITM John and Adam, just to give you some background.
2:19:00
I actually have a history of correspondence with John going
2:19:02
back to 1999, though I'm sure he doesn't recall. Let's
2:19:08
find out. Oh, I recall every note. Let's see if
2:19:12
John remembers this. I was a Mac guy and an
2:19:15
Apple employee that would routinely take offense to his articles
2:19:19
where he would suggest Apple shut the doors, sell the
2:19:23
stock, and give it back to the shareholders or that
2:19:25
jobs return would do absolutely nothing to bring the brand
2:19:28
back to prominence, etc. Wait, wait, wait. After a few
2:19:33
beers, I sent some aggressively curt emails to John suggesting
2:19:38
that he find a new position in life. That probably
2:19:41
went something like F you. But I was amazed when
2:19:44
he actually would respond to my rantings and would be
2:19:47
ever so gracious and sweet. Okay, do you remember this?
2:19:52
Oh, yeah, I'm a sweet guy. No, no. I'm sure
2:19:55
he wasn't the only Apple employee. No, there's a bunch
2:19:57
of people that rant because I...
2:20:00
This really became mostly during the Mac era when I
2:20:04
was hired as the anti-editor of Mac User. Yes. By
2:20:07
the publisher, Felix Dennis. who I knew. Is he dead?
2:20:12
And he says, would you like to be the, we'd
2:20:15
like to put you on the inside back cover, but
2:20:17
your job is to just say bad. things so we
2:20:21
can balance the magazine. And you went, heck yeah, I'm
2:20:26
in. Oh, yeah, I can do that. No problemo. And
2:20:29
so I began it. And I was on the masthead
2:20:32
as the anti-editor. and I wrote these columns at the
2:20:37
back which were always critical and but I was also
2:20:40
critical in PC Magazine and elsewhere, especially when I wrote
2:20:44
the column, which I think Steve Jobs put up in
2:20:48
a frame, which was... Steve Jobs' good riddance when he
2:20:53
quit. It was a classic. But yeah, I got a
2:20:57
bunch of guys like this that were... That's funny. That's
2:21:02
funny. He says, speaking of sweet like John. We invite
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2:21:29
love that story. And I love your product, Dennis. Dennis
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Bensonville, Illinois 20517. Cheers to Bulgaria! Winner of the 70th
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Eurovision contest as the boys in the millennial media offensive
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say The Black Sea is in play. Wouldn't surprise me
2:21:47
to hear more from Bulgaria and Romania as European nationalism
2:21:52
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Eli, the coffee guy. Then coming in with $200, another
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associate executive producership for... a dot farmer from Uden. In
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the Netherlands. And he wants to hear a boogity boogity,
2:22:27
mac and cheese, shut up slaves, and a yak karma.
2:22:31
And he says, or traveling yak karma. Bless me, podfathers,
2:22:35
for I have sinned. I would like to thank you.
2:22:38
both for your time and talent, eight years of listening
2:22:41
here by some treasure. I would like a de-douche. You've
2:22:45
been de-douched. John, I love your view on the world,
2:22:48
the stories you tell about the different jobs you had
2:22:50
and situations you were in. By the way, my smoking
2:22:53
hot wife really likes your voice. Adam, thank you for
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inventing podcasting, providing the bi-weekly crisp. and perfect sound quality
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and making the show so much fun to listen to.
2:23:04
I'm the fun one. My kids know your intro by
2:23:07
heart, reproducing it every time a new episode starts. You
2:23:11
guys are the best. The Noah Jinder Show truly is
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the best podcast in the universe. Now to business. Message
2:23:16
for... um the first ukrainian clogs on the ground meetup.
2:23:22
Hear ye, hear ye. To all farmers, shills, spooks, and
2:23:26
members of the Gitmo Nations, you are warmly invited to
2:23:29
join us for burgers and beers as we celebrate the
2:23:31
birthday of our favorite former mink farmer, now a dude
2:23:35
named Ben. We all raise a glass to knee-high corn
2:23:38
to 1,560. days of Russian peace and freedom and to
2:23:42
the honest and non-corrupt Ukrainians, the honest and non-corrupt Ukrainians,
2:23:46
all while supporting the Ukrainian economy. Join us. This is
2:23:51
the first. Join us on Saturday, June 6th at 6
2:23:55
o'clock at the Fat Moose in Bylak Tserkva in Ukraine.
2:23:59
Man, I need a meter per portrait. Wow, that would
2:24:02
be great if anyone shows up. That's awesome. We look
2:24:05
forward to seeing you there. Please RSVP, kind regards, a.farmer,
2:24:09
end of message. And he sent me a very... long
2:24:13
and beautiful boots on the ground about farming in Ukraine.
2:24:17
that was extremely informative. And he also said. everything yes
2:24:25
some drones fly most of them are shot down the
2:24:28
russian drones um One of them exploded in one of
2:24:31
his fields, a 10 by 10 foot hole, three feet
2:24:35
deep. He says, and yes, some people die and the...
2:24:40
cemeteries in you Ukraine are unbelievably full, just people that
2:24:44
just thrown bodies on top of one another. It's flags
2:24:46
everywhere. But he also says the front is has pretty
2:24:49
much been stagnant for weeks. There's not a lot going
2:24:52
on. Which makes sense because we haven't heard much. We
2:24:56
haven't heard much going on. Anyway, let me... That is
2:24:59
a very good report. Let me give you your jingle.
2:25:01
you You slaves can get used to mac and cheese,
2:25:05
mac and cheese, mac and cheese, macaroni and cheese, cheddar
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melted together, mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and
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cheese. You've got... karma Linda Lupatkin in Castle Rock, Colorado.
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2:25:55
and impact. That's Image Makers Inc. with a K with
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Linda Liu, Duchess of Java. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
2:26:11
And we have one final associate executive producer, Lois Forrestal.
2:26:16
Forrestal in Bellingham, Washington. $200. We did not receive... a
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note from Lois? No, we did get a note. We
2:26:23
did? Where's the note? Yeah, it's a note that says
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no note. Oh, but I'm still going to give Lois
2:26:28
a double up karma if you don't mind. You've got.
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And with that, we thank our executive and associate executive
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producers for episode 1869 of The Best Pod. Thank you
2:26:42
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We are truly worldwide. It's an amazing community that you
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i'd love to play one from the resist we much
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meet up in los banos this is sir robertson of
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two sticks at the resist we much meet up honoring
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armed forces day Sir Montauk here enjoying a delicious pizza
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and excellent conversation. In the morning! All right. We have
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a written meetup from Leiden where the folks met in
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10 producers met in Leiden. Thank you for your courage.
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Zobim El-Dudirachi, Black Knight El-Dudirachi, Joop, Andy, Robby, Arno, Roland,
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Sebastian, Anita, and Pedro. Shout out to Joop and Andy
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for coming to their first No Agenda meetup, says Baron
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Rob. Next meetup will be in Rotterdam on June 26
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in Café Hagsbluff. Pending MeVie's approval on Noah Jenner meetup
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stock. I'm sure she will approve it. We also have
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a meetup taking place today. This is the big one
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in Indianapolis, Indiana. The May the Road Rise to Meet
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You meetup, that is underway as we speak at St.
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Joseph's Brewery and Public House in Indianapolis. Dame Maria and
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Sir Mark of the Greenwood hosting that, of course. Next
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show today on Thursday, Charlotte's... Thursday, Thursday, Thursday, monthly meetup,
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7 o'clock at Tavern, as always, in Charlotte, North Carolina.
2:37:26
For the rest of this month, in May, on the
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Tennessee, Franklin, Tennessee, and the 24th, Keyport, New Jersey, Vancouver,
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with Mimi attending, and Anchorage, Alaska on May 30th. No
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It's very simple to start one and always a party.
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*music* you say John's tip of the day is coming
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up shortly, and we also have some really good end-of-show
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mixes. I'm excited. play those for you. But first, for
2:38:44
some reason, for a long time, we've been doing the
2:38:46
ISO selection at this part of the show, and we
2:38:49
don't even remember why, but it's always fun. And I
2:38:51
will start since that's how it usually runs. John never
2:38:54
wants to go first. You never want to go first.
2:38:56
You notice that? Of course I notice it. Okay, well
2:39:00
I'll go then. I love your perspec- You're absolutely right.
2:39:04
little long We are good to go, buddy. Maybe this
2:39:10
one. That was good. Okay. I think this one's the
2:39:13
best. It was quite impressive. I like that one. It's
2:39:18
okay. Uh-huh. What you got? Let's start with... the A
2:39:25
douchebag. God, I'm a douchebag. Is that from Family Guy?
2:39:32
Yeah. That was the vaping episode. I'm a douchebag. I
2:39:41
thought we should just keep that as a regular. High
2:39:43
contender. High contender. All right. EEEE Let's go with... Gee
2:39:53
willikers. Gee willikers. Gee willikers. What a great show. No.
2:39:58
Rejected. I reject that one.
2:40:00
out of hand. Why? You can do better. You can
2:40:03
do better. Top show. Wow, top that show, you chumps.
2:40:07
Yes, that's what I'm talking about. We have a winner,
2:40:10
and we have John's tip of the day. Green Vibes
2:40:14
for you and me. Just the tip with JCB. Hence.
2:40:19
Sometimes. Can we get some time to start planting gardens?
2:40:27
Is it now? We're in April, May? Yeah. So everybody
2:40:34
should go out and get a stirrupo. We had those.
2:40:39
in Amsterdam in the red light district. Aren't they great?
2:40:42
Yeah, fantastic. What is this? No, I'm not talking about
2:40:44
it. It's also called a, there's another name for these
2:40:48
things. They're called. What's the name? I don't know. I'm
2:40:54
going to get it. I don't even know what a
2:40:56
stirrup hoe is. Look it up, a stirrup hoe is
2:40:59
like a hoe. Yeah. Only instead of being a flat
2:41:04
surface thing, it's got a loop and it allows you
2:41:08
to... Oh, put your foot in it and jam it
2:41:10
in. No, it's good for, it is the greatest weeding
2:41:14
tool you can imagine. Oh. It just basically pulls the
2:41:19
weeds out. It's also called some other kind of hoe,
2:41:24
which is funnier. I don't want to get the name,
2:41:28
so hang on. Well, we're at the edge of our
2:41:31
seats here. Yeah, these are available at... Pastime and all
2:41:37
the big hardware stores. Let me find it. here. Stirrup
2:41:42
ho. Tally-ho. Hula-ho. Stirrupo. Hold on. I'm holding on. I'm
2:41:56
just sitting here waiting, watching the meters go silent. I'm
2:42:00
sorry, but I... You're underprepared. I closed one of the
2:42:05
windows that has it. It's also called an action hoe.
2:42:10
An action hoe. Which is really more the Amsterdam... It's
2:42:16
a show title, is what that is. Action hoe. Action
2:42:19
hoe. Yeah. And Home Depot has them. The Husky makes
2:42:23
a good one. A 54-in-1 would handle action hoe with
2:42:28
grip. These are just terrific products for gardeners. I used
2:42:32
to have one years ago. I forgot all about it
2:42:34
until Jay and Brennan brought one to the house here.
2:42:39
And they're gardening. Yeah, and they got a big garden
2:42:41
in the backyard. Oh. And so they're using this thing
2:42:44
as she's all jacked up about the action hoe. Yeah,
2:42:48
well, there's a lot of punchlines there with the word
2:42:50
action hoe, but it's really technically a stirrup hoe. Everyone
2:42:55
should get one. They're about 25 bucks max. Go get
2:42:57
your action hoe, everybody. That's a two. Tip of the
2:43:00
Day you will only find at noagendafun.com, tipoftheday.net. ♪ For
2:43:06
me, just a tip with JCB ♪ Sometimes, Adam. Created
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am. Aren't you glad? I'm telling you. I'm telling you.
2:43:17
Look it up. This show is good to the last
2:43:19
drop. How many people listen to the tip of the
2:43:23
day? Oh, I'll do an analysis. One day. I bet
2:43:29
you about half, maybe half. No, no, 20%. 20%? You
2:43:34
think we'd fall off that much? For tip of the
2:43:37
day, yeah. I think so. Most podcasts... fall off pretty
2:43:42
substantially. After a while. But there's always that group that
2:43:47
just hangs in there all the way. And they're the
2:43:49
ones. Those are the good guys. Yeah, of course. And
2:43:51
they learn about all the fun stuff that everybody else
2:43:54
misses. Your loss. End of show mixes from Just Baker
2:43:58
and MVP. Love those guys. They're prompting away. They're doing
2:44:04
good things now. I mean, it gets better every single
2:44:07
time. End of show. Let's see. After the show, we
2:44:11
have the Millennial Media Offensive coming up. with Hans von
2:44:16
Spankovsky. Oh yeah, that makes total sense. Sounds like those
2:44:21
guys. And we will return on Thursday. We hope you
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join us. And I am coming to you from the
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heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in Fredericksburg,
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Texas. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from
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at noagendadonations.com. Until Thursday, adios. Mofoza, HooeyHooey, and Saj. Hey.
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Beijing lights the great heart glows red Trump grins why
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she knows his head fantastic Thank you. But blacked out
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while the spooks take notes. Not a smoke. voice in
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this corporate arc. War powers dance, I ran on life
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support, another chance to keep the forever machine in advance
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while the cruise ship coughs up his deadly romance in
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the CIA. This script writes us all. you trees in
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the valley where the John's locking the doors, falling down
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to his knees, while the typhus is scratching to get
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in. The screens are all glowing, a ghost like blue,
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in a house that feels like a cage. The silence
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is heavy, the shadows are new, in this lonely, fevered
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age. Oh! ♪ ♪ Statham walks through the Dutch lowlands,
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looking for a shadow from a hollow past with a
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hand to... ♪ Reaching for his hands ♪ ♪ No
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comfort in the travel ♪ ♪ No peace in the
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flight ♪ ♪ Just two hearts beating out of time
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♪ ♪ One staring at the ceiling in the dead
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of night ♪ ♪ The other in a cold and
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rhythmic climb ♪ Fever's coming for us all. So far
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apart. So afraid you Not by day. the sky. Women,
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child. civilian cars targeted the anchors lie scholars need mcclinton
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slow west bank march is crushed again 700 protests But
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the camera spins the end. The show ends down. I
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get more nation never sleeps. Dustin deals in. the news
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they say. And she talks in Beijing. *Brain Jet* Cease.
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Oh, ghosts line up for the list. Same hand, same
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twisted twist. Producer. This signal's a lie. Just the truth
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No agenda. *music* MoFo. Dvorak.org. Slash. N. A. show you
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