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August 16th, 2018 • 2h 55m

1060: Austin Beatniks

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she has another facelift she's gonna end
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up with a goatee
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Adam curry Jhansi Devorah nation media
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assassination episode 10 this is no
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agenda the gun valley where we turn to
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show and joey post the set for show i'm
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jessie divorce I've had many a post SEPA
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sewed yeah but we went from a priest
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effort to a post cuz it ran down the
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tracks just as you as you got cut off
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okay well mark it down in your book did
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you get the serial number and its
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registration everything for male number
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foamer you tail number has ever set big
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tails well the news cycle of course
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changed dramatically just overnight yeah
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Aretha Franklin died oh yeah rip it rip
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everybody rip love and light and
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everyone's posting selfies yeah look
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he's me with Aretha
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I never worked with her but I worked
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with a lot of people who worked on big
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shows with her and she was pretty
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universally hated as a diva and very
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very bossy demanding fairly just not
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very nice and that's my eulogy it's all
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I've heard all my life about her was
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like I'm like I'm not gonna fake it I'm
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not the same thing about Donna summers
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who windows it she shops
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I disagree Donna Summer I did work with
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what a sweetheart now this is not the
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case when she got older maybe well one
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of our producers played the bass on I
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feel loved okay well maybe he'd know and
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he says van Morris is supposed to be
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hard to work with
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yeah who wants to work with Van Morrison
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anymore anyway so you know that does
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make a difference in the in the new
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cycle everyone's because I hear the
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minute there was an announcement she was
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sick everyone's putting together their
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retrospectives what we'll see a lot of
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respect puns oh yeah oh yes
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P ect yes now I the funny thing about
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this particular one first Mimi tells me
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about all of everything's gonna die and
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then Jay tells me about it and it's like
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nope yeah a lot of people die during the
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year that are old and face but she spans
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for decade the for generations almost of
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listening audience Brown but nobody told
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me he was gonna die when he did because
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he died during plastic surgery which is
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and not a good way to go no it's like
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you expect waking up fresh and young
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looking with some bruising for a couple
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of days yeah but not dead no great guy
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you don't expect to wake up dead you'd
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never want to wake up dead let's see I
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did a lot of you know Turkey is becoming
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a problem we've been looking at Turkey
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for years have always identified its its
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growing issues and but what is so
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interesting to me is that
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the Ottoman Empire I think is taught in
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school as a timeline with a big cloud
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around it you know and here's the
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Ottoman Empire and then after the
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Ottoman Empire all this happened but
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really what went on during the Ottoman
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Empire and in that turkey or
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Constantinople which is now Istanbul was
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that the center of the universe I don't
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think it's really taught in schools
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I certainly didn't get an even more than
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a summary of what was going on do you
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know it would be part of world history
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courses taught and caught at the college
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college level yeah and in the nether
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ones that he made mentioned in passing
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in high school level and it was a friend
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of mine said oh you should watch the
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promise which I think came out last year
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this movie it's about the Armenian
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Genocide love triangle type story and
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it's a personalized story but gives you
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a pretty good impression of what was
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going on when the when the Turks
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massacred yeah the Armenians which has
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never been officially recognized by any
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Western leader I don't think I think
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Trump may have touched on it hmm
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well he would be that he would be the
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first according to the book of knowledge
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but holy crap man that that was some
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that was not oh and we just kind of
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stood by big world powers then right
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thank you early 1900s we didn't want it
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is drawn in anyway yeah but you know
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that there was a lot going on where we
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had naval fleets that could have done
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something probably not anyway here's a
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report about Turkey it's more in-depth
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than most especially coming from
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euronews the financial turmoil continues
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for turkey investors are heading for
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safe havens and markets in the US and
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some in Asia have been losing ground
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amid fears Turkey's crisis could spill
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over into the world economy the Turkish
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lira has been in freefall whit's lost
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almost more and on Monday as the US
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dollar and in the past year it's fallen
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by more than 40 percent or turkey
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central bank has acted to get more money
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into the banking system but has resisted
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calls to
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crease the main interest rate which
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currently stands at 17 point seven five
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percent an increase could help attract
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investors who've taken fright over
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growing debt and deteriorating relations
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with the United States well as of May
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turkeys private companies owe more than
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two hundred and forty billion dollars
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and it's this debt that's helped private
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consumption grow the economy at a pace
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that many now believe is unsustainable
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well that means that foreign banks could
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face big losses if those companies can't
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repay their debts Spain's BBVA is the
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most exposed with Turkey accounting for
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thirteen percent of its loans italy's
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UniCredit the netherlands ing Frances
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BNP paribas are also well and truly on
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the hook now is this in any manner
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analogous to Greece I don't think so
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no Greece is being squeezed by the
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central bank of the EU rise stage which
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was through a spiral
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I guess maybe more that there's foreign
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banks that have interests in them and
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they're going yeah that's gonna be the
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case of any of these countries they
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always everybody's intertwined with this
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trigger they could this trigger the
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Armageddon they could this trigger the
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you know I personally somebody else
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asked me this one of the Lib Joe's okay
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and I said I don't think they have the
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leverage as an economy to really trigger
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it yeah it's not big at all it's not no
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we already looked at this analysis
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decisive so bigger in Argentina right
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but if the if if they go that's never
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trend that's been in and out of business
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for years that's never triggered
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anything but I guess contagion would be
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what people are worried about if it
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catches on to other countries and
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investors start pulling their money out
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that could that could then maybe start
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to affect the euro
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I don't think so they're not in the euro
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they're not in the euro zone no I say if
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it goes to other countries
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I don't see it happening okay well good
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what but we just I'm looking for the
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trigger you know you've you've predicted
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this you know you've you've predicted
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yeah yeah I'm a downturn - I just don't
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see this being it I mean if you'd be
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convenient timing would be good yeah I
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just don't see it it's just the weakest
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a weak sister so doesn't have enough
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oomph to really could cause an issue
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well a lot being written about it now
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it's been more about China
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yeah we're Shane is really the I think
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China is the one that keep an eye on it
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because they those guys and we don't
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even know what's going on there really
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they fake their numbers you can't tell
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it's a black box this is but yes exactly
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right okay I had a report on this from
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CBS and I know you ran that with the CBS
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report sucks you're right where's your
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CBS report oh here it is brouhaha this
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is an economic war according to Turkey
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and the enemy is America its NATO ally
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the Turkish lira has been falling in
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value for months but last week it
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plummeted 20% because of a dispute with
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Washington over this man Andrew Brunson
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an evangelical pastor from North
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Carolina who's lived in Turkey for more
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than 20 years and is accused by the
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Turkish government of terrorism and
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spying pastor Bronson has been detained
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here in Turkey for nearly two years the
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US says it's seen no credible evidence
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against him I have a message on behalf
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of the President of the United States of
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America the President of the United States of
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release pastor Andrew Brunson now or be
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prepared to face the consequences those
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consequences are US sanctions and a
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doubling of tariffs on Turkish steel and
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aluminum announced by President Trump on
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Friday in retaliation turkeys doubled
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tariffs on US passenger cars coal and
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other goods and announced a boycott of
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u.s. electronic goods these angry Turks
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tore up fake dollar bills in protest
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many people here believe this crisis is
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all the fault of the u.s. even though
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experts have been warning of danger
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signs for months blaming turkeys or
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storeit aryan president reject iota 1
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there was a video going around about a
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couple of Turks smashing iPhones with a
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hammer did you see that yes I did and at
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the end you hear an iPhone ringtone
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it's like we're smashing these iPhones
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except for the one I have in my pocket
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yeah very very funny I did get a note
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from one of our producers who's
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extremely in the know on Turkey and I'm
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not gonna mention his name because I
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don't know if he wants this attributed
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to him but I'll share it because you
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know we have a couple things in here the
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the failed coup this guy who's the
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pastor who may or may not see sorry
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Brunson yeah who may or may not be a spy
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but here's what our sources does the
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economic the current economic chaos in
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Turkey seem like a soft coup I love the
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methods outlined in the economic hitman
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short answer yes can everyone keep the
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Turkish economy upright without IMF
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support now maybe not banks in Germany
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France and Spain we pushing for IMF
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loans to back up the Turkish economy
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they have large loans on their books to
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Turkey which we just heard I think said
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banks and others would welcome more
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stable leadership in the country enter
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the Gulen movement there he is our
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friend in Pennsylvania and Poconos while
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roundly hated in Turkey they have strong
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support in Germany in the USA may be
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seen as more easily controllable this
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actually makes things come together for
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me earlier this year I talked with
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someone involved in the Brunson matter
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and America and I was told that Mike
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Pence and the Turks had reached a deal
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but factions within the CIA and State
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Department were working to frustrate
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their agreement in order to make air21
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look as bad as possible
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I heard last month while in DC that
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Brunson would be released from prison
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after Trump himself had negotiated the
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release of Turkish Hamas courier
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tourists being held in Israel which I
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think happened yes the Turk was released
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but erawan only released Brunson to
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house arrest in Turkey not what was
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envisioned about 10 days ago everyone
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formally announced that Turkey would
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join the BRICS
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I missed that news
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did you hear this
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no not at all so be the bricks it bricks
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bricks it I would guess that these two
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things that may have personally angered
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Trump enough to impose sanctions see
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what else does he say here arrow and his
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government are very still very pissed
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off at Gulen has not been extradited
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extradited back to Turkey they've
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repeatedly stated Brunson will have to
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go through the Turkish judicial process
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when the DOJ here blathers on about lack
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of an evidence of how the extradition
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process is still under review a tit for
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tat situation it's likely that Brunson
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had some interaction with the Gulen
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movement he lived in Izmir for 25 years
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the city in which Gulen first gained a
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following given the Gulen movement use
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of interfaith dialogue which has been
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very successful in recruiting gullible
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sympathizers and religious circles
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around the world I wouldn't be surprised
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if Brunson was caught up in some
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nefarious gluttonous BS however I've
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seen no evidence that he was a spy or
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working on behalf of Gulen during the
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coup attempt in 2016 under the state
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emergency in Turkey a lot of secret
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testimony etcetera has been gathered but
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is not released providing an opaqueness
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to prosecutions of this type
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[Music] prosecutions of this type
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so it's it's see just reading this it
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seems to me that now we know Gulen is
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was put in the Poconos by the CIA they
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took care of his paperwork and
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everything he's got his compound up
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there he probably was used for the
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failed coup attempt which i think is
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universally recognized was a botched job
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somehow on our the CIA's part I think
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and maybe they just no I'm not sure that
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that's universally recognized although
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it makes a lot of sense it's recognized
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by everyone here the one a lot of people
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think is the whole thing up to blame the
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CEO that was certainly something we
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looked at as well yeah but within
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everything I hear from you know people
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that we talked to it's in in
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intelligence circles that reach us which
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is the outer crust crumbling crusts of
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chalk but okay as we touch it at least
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that crumbling crust of chalk is better
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than most people yeah exactly exactly so
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maybe they you know maybe they do want
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to try and you know another attempt
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maybe a soft coup get some Gulen people
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to take over huh I mentioned on the ehm
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plug show that I thought that there was
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an economic hitman model at work here
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that's what it sounds like that's what
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our source just said but meanwhile this
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poor pastor stuck there and if the guys
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correct which had done some wouldn't
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surprise me the CIA is working against
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the administration because that's all
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they do which is too bad
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yes a mess I don't think it's not
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bringing the economies of the world down
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or anything else it's just gonna shake
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things up in Turkey all righty
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yeah talking about you not you measure
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the see we haven't heard any of this
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stuff of course by the mainstream media
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I mean they're more concerned about the
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you know the Smashing of the iPhones yes
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yes I got this other thing from euronews
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out you mentioned euronews and here's
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one listen to this this happened on the
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day of the show this our show day news
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yeah a Sunday and tell me you know any
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of this you even have heard of any of
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this stuff this is the unreported oil
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and gas agreement from last Sunday funds
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that fall to the Caspian Sea say they've
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reached agreement in principle on how to
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divide up the oil and gas resources of
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the world's largest enclosed body of
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water Russia Iran Kazakhstan
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Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan say the bulk
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of the Caspian will be treated as a
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common resource that they will govern
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together and the five say it will be
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given a special status putting it
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outside the jurisdiction of existing
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international law governing lakes and
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seas no agreement was found on the more
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contentious issue of where the seabed
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border should be traced but Russian
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President Vladimir Putin nevertheless
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welcomed the principle of regional
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governance you read things available if
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it fixes principles of military
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political cooperation of the member
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states he said and guarantees the
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absence of the Armed Forces of non
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regional states in the loup-garou
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the Caspian is believed to hold some 50
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billion barrels of petrol and 300,000
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billion cubic meters of natural gas now
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was a Serb Rochon in in that lineup I
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didn't hear yem yem
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and so is Iran and Russia Turkestan
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Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan that's an
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interesting little little group there no
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kidding they got they got to say they
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got resources they got the raw materials
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they got the processors and they got the
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sales force and I was a brush the whole
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thing and then you just the pipeline
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through Georgia but a bing bada boom
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very nice no I hadn't heard no idea the
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Caspian Sea was that either
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yeah no of course none of this gets
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reported no you know
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one more windmills in the United States
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there's no pani don't pay any attention
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to that going on over there
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stay cornered the market on natural gas
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jeez the thing is just that thing is
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loaded with natural gas yeah God his
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ridiculous this is ignored that is that
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you know well again yeah as we started
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off today is that the whole the whole
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new cycle is gonna be RESP ECT well
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there's that and then also you know like
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get get go vote vote oh yeah Oh Democrat
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yeah so the latest bomb the latest is
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smart missile eatin air quotes is a
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Moroso yeah and this is very easy to
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understand and do you have any clips I
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have one or two I think I have likes it
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that we should play right away because
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it's lawrence o'donnell stop the
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hammering get it ready yeah so here is
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lawrence O'Donnell on amarosa today the
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people who follows me on Twitter
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Patricia McCleary tweeted if you talk
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about Omarosa tonight when there are 700
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children still separated from their
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parents then I will turn you off but
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Omarosa is one of the reasons that those
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children were separated from their
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parents and are still separated from
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their parents tonight those children
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were separated because of the cruelty of
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the people working in the Trump White
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House especially the presidents who
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thought it was a good idea to separate
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them Omarosa and everyone else working
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for the Trump presidential campaign knew
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they were supporting a candidate who
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believed that the one thing that we
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didn't have enough of on the southern
19:06
border was cruelty that cruelty was
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going to be one of the methods that
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Donald Trump would use at the southern
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border to discourage immigration Omarosa
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knew that all of the Trump campaign
19:17
workers knew that and now Omarosa
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proceeds with her TV interview version
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of her
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Berndt trial as she does that she wants
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to use the defense the world heard
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frequently during the Nuremberg trials
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of Nazis after World War two I didn't
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know I would agree actually that's
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pretty funny
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especially guys insane that's great
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that's great and she's treated so
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seriously and taken him to such it was
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so much respect I saw her I tried to get
19:58
a clip from The Daily Show Trevor Noah
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and she was on and she was flirting with
20:03
him and she was like a queen diva but
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nothing interesting nothing of any use
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at all now I do have a clip from NPR
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where NPR has a gotcha they've got a
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gotcha on Omarosa as they asked her to
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read to start off in this interview by
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reading a passage from her book and I'm
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pretty sure she already recorded the
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audio book as she will they be able to
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discern from her
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from her read on this phone conversation
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I was told exactly what Donald Trump
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said yes the n-word and others and a
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classic Trump goes nuclear rant this
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seems pretty clear she didn't hear the
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tape but was told what was on it
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but that's not what she said in her
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interview with Morning Edition and once
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I heard it you hurt you have heard this
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tape you heard the President of the
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United States President of the United
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States use not only the n-word but as
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Bill Pruitt described during that
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interview other horrible things during
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the production of The Apprentice you
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don't mention that in the book that
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you've actually heard the tape is this
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new oh no it's mentioned in the book but
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what Manigault Newman points to is that
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section she just read about the phone
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call in the interview Rachel Martin
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presses her to clear up the discrepancy
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forgive me though that sounds like you
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just heard his account of the tape did
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you actually hear the tape I did she did
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read the book so did I it's not there in
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the book Manigault Newman makes many
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claims about President Trump and others
21:53
in the White House that would be
21:54
shocking if true that he has dementia
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that he referred to people of color as
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those people that he wanted to be sworn
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in on a copy of his book the art of the
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deal rather than the Bible there's a lot
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White House press secretary Sarah
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Sanders put out a statement that says in
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part quote this book is riddled with
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lies and false accusations it's sad that
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a disgruntled former White House
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employee is trying to profit off these
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false attacks and even worse that the
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media would now give her a platform
22:24
after not taking her seriously when she
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had only positive things to say about
22:29
the president during her time in the
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administration unquote those days are
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clearly over Donald J Trump is not only
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a racist but a misogynist and a bigot
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but the things that I heard come out of
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this man's mouth
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on the tape that I described in this
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book it completely shattered my belief
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in him being a decent person but a big
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question now hangs over at all did she
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actually hear the tape as she claims now
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or did she simply hear a description of
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it as she says in her book unhinged
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mmm-hmm thank you Omarosa by the way for
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the fantastic I so I think this is a
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contender for the end of show good
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contender so this is very easy through
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the no agenda lens is not that hard to
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figure this out because I'm not kidding
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she didn't write this book she sat down
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with someone from Shuster and Simon and
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or the other way around now well hold on
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Schuster and Simon owned by CBS who
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hates Trump Moonves redstone it's a
23:42
bunch of haters and she came out they've
23:45
had this book they wrote it up and she
23:47
probably told the story one way and he
23:49
they decided not to write it that way
23:50
because there wasn't it sounded too
23:52
vague or they didn't it you know just
23:53
tried to not get sued into oblivion yeah
23:57
you'd only get sued and so they you know
23:58
it's just it's it's a horseshit this is
24:00
totaled just it's it's a horseshit this is
24:04
it's just political stuff you know and
24:07
everyone's taking it seriously and
24:09
doesn't see it for what it is
24:10
particularly the Simon & Schuster tie-in
24:12
hello the Simon & Schuster tie-in
24:14
geez yeah that's pretty bad well I I've
24:19
told I don't I think I've talked about
24:21
this on the show for when you get ghost
24:22
riders there's a bunch of different ways
24:25
you can go
24:26
generally speaking you do ghost rider
24:28
gets his name or her name on book cover
24:31
I haven't seen this book cover so I
24:33
don't know if there's another name on it
24:35
is there do we know anybody I haven't
24:37
seen it and I have not read it so and so
24:43
that's one way of doing it you say so
24:45
and so near the author width or the
24:48
author and yes and then there's a third
24:53
way of doing it where it's pretty
24:55
apparent that the author didn't do
24:56
anything by the way you should have
24:57
called me out it's Simon & Schuster not
24:59
Schuster and Simon you should have
25:01
called the other way around
25:03
oh now I understand what you're saying
25:05
okay now I get it sorry anyway so the so
25:12
there's these different models and then
25:14
there's the what the real whopper of a
25:16
model which is maybe what they did which
25:19
is you you have a ghostwriter write the
25:22
whole damn book you got nothing to do
25:23
with it except you tell a few tales and
25:25
then they embellish them you just done
25:28
from an interview you interview the
25:30
person and the ghostwriter is a
25:32
ghostwriter literally there's no mention
25:33
of the person sometimes there's a thank
25:36
you or something in the in the foreword
25:38
and that's kind of the person who wrote
25:40
the book but that that in that case this
25:43
almost like you get you have to sign a
25:44
nondisclosure you never get to talk say
25:47
that you wrote the book if you have
25:49
nothing to do with it and you get paid
25:52
more you get paid like a lot more you
25:54
make most of the money
25:58
so I don't know what they did but you're
26:00
right she's there's no way she wrote
26:02
this book I've written the outline for
26:03
my book oh yeah you want me to write it
26:06
no well I want to Beto
26:10
other people vying for this spot okay we
26:13
just give it to them I really don't have
26:14
the time to come now in my lifetime I
26:23
don't want it to be you know after the
26:25
fact I don't wanna be posthumous
26:27
publication I don't wanna be posthumous
26:28
point well-taken yeah it's a novel by
26:32
the way
26:34
oh good it's novel yeah the books that
26:37
we ever published it would be novels yes
26:39
it's a novel so far so be novel
26:41
yeah ought to be very novel yeah but
26:43
it's so I I just took all of my life
26:46
stories and and baked it into a spy
26:49
novel and it works frightening me well
26:51
oh good yeah yeah all right yeah I'm
26:57
calling it unglued a tech colon unhinge
27:01
best suit I miss it again
27:04
well today front page or not from penny
27:07
but if it was the front page actually
27:08
but in over 100 newspapers no it was
27:12
more than that I think let me see that
27:16
the New York Times said here
27:19
they all banded together at the behest
27:22
at the suggestion of the Boston Globe as
27:26
they called for nationwide media
27:27
response to Trump's attacks on the press
27:32
this has never happened before in the
27:35
history of American politics no
27:37
president has ever attacked the press
27:41
do you remember first the guys as a
27:44
trailblazer well I
27:46
I remember when over a hundred
27:48
newspapers agreed to run editorials on
27:49
the same day defending a free press
27:51
against Obama when he spied on The
27:53
Associated Press hack cheryl atkinson
27:55
got phone records of reporters tried to
27:57
jail the guy yeah didn't the newspapers
28:00
do it then - I don't think so no I don't
28:03
think so either
28:04
but what's interesting they took a very
28:06
because everyone could write their own
28:08
op-ed well great their own editorial
28:12
reporters writing op-eds well I'd well
28:15
this is from the editorial board okay it
28:18
was different I'm sorry yeah it should
28:19
have said that properly I'll just read
28:22
the the first two paragraphs because I
28:24
thought there there there they approach
28:26
it from an interesting angle and you may
28:28
know more about this in 1787 the year
28:31
the Constitution was adopted Thomas
28:33
Jefferson famously wrote to a friend
28:34
word left to me to decide whether we
28:37
should have a government without
28:38
newspapers or newspapers without a
28:40
government I should not hesitate a
28:42
moment to prefer the latter that's how
28:44
he felt before he came president anyway
28:46
20 years later after enduring the
28:48
oversight of the press from inside the
28:50
White House he was less sure of its
28:52
value nothing can now be believed which
28:54
is seen in a newspaper he wrote truth
28:56
itself becomes suspicious by being put
28:59
into that polluted vehicle
29:02
Jefferson's discomfort was and remains
29:04
understandable reporting the news in an
29:06
open society is an enterprise laced with
29:08
conflict his discomfort also illustrates
29:10
the need for the right
29:12
he helped enshrine as the founders
29:14
believe from their own experience a
29:16
well-informed public is best equipped to
29:18
root out corruption and over the long
29:19
haul promote liberty and justice and
29:22
then comes this interesting bit public
29:25
discussion is a political Duty the
29:27
Supreme Court said in 1964 that
29:30
discussion must be uninhibited robust
29:33
and wide open and may well include
29:35
vehement caustic and sometimes
29:37
unpleasantly sharp attacks on government
29:39
and public officials that kind of
29:42
describes a Supreme Court decision
29:44
against the purge from social media
29:48
yeah the way I took it so why doesn't
29:51
have anyone pick that up because nobody
29:54
wants to be here's the thing I wrote a
29:56
column this week and I don't know if it
29:58
came out yet I saw it yes I liked it and
30:00
that makes it was very no agenda go
30:02
ahead the publishers these yes 20 to 30
30:07
basically what set me off on it was a
30:09
article I forgot where it ran and some
30:12
somewhere by Jeff Jarvis defending
30:17
Twitter and Facebook as you know not
30:19
publishers but Jeff Jarvis forms oh yes
30:23
oh that was Jeff Jarvis who did that
30:24
yeah sure so I read this thing I said
30:28
this is a load and so I decided that
30:30
must go to the other extreme and I
30:32
started thinking about it load as I
30:39
started thinking about it everything
30:41
that we're calling a platform based on a
30:43
dictionary definition and what I know to
30:44
be a platform is bullcrap the Internet
30:47
is not a platform the Internet is a
30:50
network not a platform the Internet is a
30:53
you know they had that remembrance sun
30:54
microsystems used to say the network is
30:56
the computer network is not the computer
31:00
it does no computing it's not the
31:03
computers no way it's the computer but
31:05
we had but Silicon Valley's always
31:07
dreamed up this crazy stuff so they can
31:09
kind of market stuff and these
31:10
douchebags that run Facebook and Twitter
31:13
and every but all these other platforms
31:15
that aren't platforms they're publishing
31:17
houses they've refused to take legal
31:19
responsibility for the evil deeds that
31:21
they do
31:23
and they get they hide behind a cloak of
31:25
this bullcrap oh no no we just let
31:28
people push that's just not our we got
31:29
nothing to do with it
31:30
we have nothing to do with it well I
31:33
think that the best argument in your
31:34
piece was advertising that a platform
31:39
does not need advertising and that's one
31:42
of the touring tests if you will to see
31:44
if something is a platform so your your
31:47
computer does not need advertising yeah
31:50
and it's a platform but face bag now to
31:53
some developers it may be a platform but
31:56
it's it's not it's just not the same
31:58
thing then certainly not when it comes
32:00
to the definition even to some
32:03
developers is not a platform it's a
32:05
mechanism that they can use to put their
32:08
code in play but as a plat is not a
32:11
platform per se they have no control
32:13
over it if you have a platform you own a
32:15
platform I have my PC I own I can throw
32:18
it out the window
32:19
I'm not vardaman your brother I'm a
32:22
slave to Facebook's API
32:25
[Music] to Facebook's API
32:27
no I mean it's just as far as I'm
32:30
concerned is just the definition and
32:31
it's done for legal purposes so they can
32:33
flirt yes they can skirt the law yes so
32:36
they can't be sued because well that was
32:38
what made the internet grow and gave
32:40
these websites license to grow which I'm
32:42
not saying is bad with that anyways
32:44
Wikipedia as well by the way they also
32:47
are under the same they use the same
32:49
section 230 legal argument but your
32:55
point is right they are at they are they
32:57
are publishers because they're editing
33:00
the output and that's not just by
33:03
editing the output their publishers they
33:05
should be editing the output they're
33:06
just not editing it well and and the
33:08
point I make in that column is if you
33:11
libel somebody on Facebook it's no
33:14
different than if you libel somebody in
33:16
the New York Times right New York Times
33:18
can be sued why can't facebook because
33:21
mark school man don't do that that's
33:24
pretty much where it boils down to so
33:27
about this you know the editing they do
33:30
the the AI artificial intelligence that
33:34
they you that they deploy to be able to
33:36
find all these offensive hate speech
33:38
posts here is a note from one of our
33:42
producers who is an uber driver now I'd
33:46
never considered this
33:48
but you know because you know how I like
33:50
to talk to the uber driver and sometimes
33:52
it would record them because they have
33:53
interesting things to say because
33:54
they're always from a different country
33:55
at least in Austin they are but it works
33:58
the other way around to our spy network
34:01
many of them drive in ubers to pick up a
34:04
few bucks here and there and sometimes
34:05
you hear something in the morning Adam
34:07
says Brian quick sidebar to your recent
34:09
discussion on face bag in Texas the
34:11
other day I gave a ride uber to a
34:13
paralegal that was traveling to Texas
34:15
she worked at Facebook campus of Playa
34:17
Vista la Facebook and Google have slowly
34:20
been taking over the area Google took
34:22
over the old Howard Hughes hangar and
34:24
converted it to their space didn't know
34:26
that during the ride she mentioned her
34:28
travels face bag and her tasks while in
34:30
Texas of course I inquired for shell
34:33
Intel this is why I'm talking about your
34:37
analysis of Facebook in Texas is
34:39
accurate her task was to go to San
34:41
Antonio and train the Facebook employees
34:43
on how to grade all videos that are
34:46
posted on Facebook and Instagram
34:48
she says someone actually watches all
34:51
those videos yes AI at its finest she
34:55
also mentioned Facebook is creating
34:57
guidelines for Hollywood production
34:59
houses their next play will be YouTube
35:03
and Netflix so there's guidelines that
35:07
they're creating that they're going to
35:09
hand the Hollywood this is interesting
35:11
Facebook mm-hmm it makes sense that's a
35:14
diversification of their business that
35:15
makes a lot of sense to me if they can
35:18
become the de facto filters of hate
35:20
crawl they have more data than anybody
35:24
else they can at least claim their they
35:26
know what they're doing
35:29
well while you're on the topic den
35:32
University of California thinks it can
35:34
be the arbiter of hate
35:37
and a clip of what a clip this were they
35:40
describing one of their programs is this
35:42
the clip that I played just on the last
35:44
show is it
35:45
yeah probably 80 element yes okay were
35:49
you there last show I don't remember
35:51
this clip we talked to you were like why
35:54
the creepy music I even remember what
35:57
you said about it I did say those
35:59
computers but I don't remember being the
36:00
same huh okay well I'm sorry no it's
36:02
okay we're gonna play it again
36:03
ADL in the University of California at
36:05
Berkeley ste lab have been working to
36:08
develop a new approach to tackle online
36:10
hate using the latest methods the goal
36:13
of the online heat index is to help tech
36:15
platforms better understand the growing
36:17
amount of hate on social media and to
36:19
use that information to address the
36:21
problem by combining artificial
36:23
intelligence and machine learning with
36:25
social science the online hate index
36:28
will ultimately uncover and identify
36:30
trends and patterns in hate speech
36:32
across different platforms we've just
36:35
completed our first phase of research
36:37
and we found that the machine learning
36:39
model identified hate speech accurately
36:41
between 78 and 85 percent of the time in
36:45
the next phase of our project we will
36:47
look at specific targeted populations in
36:50
a more detailed manner
36:51
we'll examine content on multiple social
36:54
media sites and we'll identify
36:56
strategies to deploy the model more
36:58
broadly to deploy the model more
36:59
while there's still a long way to go
37:01
with artificial intelligence and machine
37:02
learning based solutions we believe the
37:05
online heat index will help tech
37:06
companies better understand the extent
37:08
of hateful content on their platforms by
37:11
creating community based definitions of
37:12
hate speech that clip actually filled me
37:16
with hate you know the thing I must have
37:19
been distracted by the music so much
37:20
well yeah v12 comes to mind I actually
37:24
just took some okay good the bow there's
37:28
a race PC there's a race on John and
37:30
this is a huge opportunity arms race yes
37:34
this is a race to beat but there's a
37:36
race to be the de facto go-to place we
37:38
have the independent network of fact
37:40
checkers which includes Tucker Carlson's
37:42
outfit the Daily Caller foundation right
37:44
yeah who said the whole thing I can't
37:46
believe he's doing that douche bags yeah
37:49
total douche trying to be you know the
37:50
arbiters of truth have really despised
37:52
that very disappointing that includes
37:55
Snopes there in there as well so you got
37:56
those guys over there
37:58
no she's also promoting yourself now as
37:59
a news source you notice this now I
38:02
really really don't visits no become a
38:07
newspaper really don't visits no become a
38:09
so let me see if I can do this I've got
38:13
a couple clubs here so Alex Jones got a
38:16
timeout a timeout from Twitter you need
38:21
a timeout go sit in the corner
38:24
they were hounding I think Dorsey so
38:27
much that they well what I want to do is
38:31
I have Dorsey responding to it first
38:33
then I want to play the universally
38:36
accepted language as to why he was
38:40
kicked off and then we I actually have
38:42
the the real verbage and clip form of
38:44
what he actually said which makes things
38:46
even more interesting
38:50
because this is all about the rules and
38:52
the terms of service and the Community
38:53
Guidelines here's jack dorsey alex jones
38:57
on twitter posted this week what
39:00
essentially is a video calling for
39:01
people to get their battle rifles ready
39:03
against the media okay remember this a
39:08
essentially said get your battle arms
39:11
against get your battle arms ready
39:13
against the media
39:15
you heard that I heard that yes okay
39:18
we'll just keep that in mind
39:20
Alex Jones on Twitter posted this week
39:22
what essentially is a video calling for
39:24
people to get their battle rifles ready
39:27
against the media saying it's time to
39:29
act it's got to be done now move
39:31
criminally against people send a chill
39:35
up my spine how about yours hmm
39:37
they did I mean there's a there's a
39:38
number of actions did send a chill up
39:40
your spine man John I never heard it I
39:43
just heard from him well well he when
39:45
you hear it chills will go up and down
39:47
your spine I'll bet believe help a call
39:51
to incitement to violence and those are
39:54
the things that we need to call to
39:56
incitement to violence okay so far so
39:58
good to violence okay so far so
39:59
battle arms against the media calls of
40:01
incitement to violence make sure that
40:02
we're taking action on you have you've
40:04
taken action against him in this
40:06
instance what can you tell us what it is
40:08
we I believe we put him in a timeout
40:11
timeout removing his ability to tweet
40:14
for a for a time period that timeout
40:17
seems juvenile seems minor compared to
40:21
the implications of someone suggesting a
40:23
call to arms against it but all of our
40:25
media the media how do you respond to
40:28
that well I feel you know any any
40:32
suspension whether it be a permanent one
40:34
or a temporary one make someone think
40:36
about their actions and their behaviors
40:38
and changes behavior based out of you
40:45
might be Lester Holt actually it sounds
40:48
a little like him yeah and that it does
40:50
have the potential to change impact and
40:53
change behavior so whether it works with
40:57
in this case to change some of those
41:00
behaviors and change some of those
41:01
actions I don't know but this is
41:03
consistent with how we enforce them okay
41:05
thank you jack so Jack did not argue
41:08
with I guess that is Lester Holt with
41:11
his assertions there that Jones called
41:13
for a battle-axe battle rifles I believe
41:16
he said against the media incitement of
41:19
violence against the media let's listen
41:22
to the actual video which I chopped out
41:25
some silences so it's a little bit
41:26
shorter silences so it's a little bit
41:28
and I guess when you're policing words
41:30
over hate speech I think we should
41:32
really listen to the words and let's see
41:34
if we can discern any actual hates with
41:37
didn't even mention hate speech
41:38
incitement to violence and battle arms
41:40
against a group of people in this case
41:42
the media it now stands with you
41:45
and the US military so I know already
41:48
understand who the cha-cha my operatives
41:49
at the traders are to understand who's
41:51
trying to take the First Amendment okay
41:53
this is where I usually to now but we're
41:55
gonna keep keep with it guys stay with
41:57
it now come on come you can do it who's
42:02
trying to bankrupt the country who's
42:04
trying to shut down everything who
42:05
wanted to admit it they wanted to
42:06
bankrupt health care in America to bring
42:08
us to our knees we're under attack and
42:10
you know that you've pointed out
42:11
mainstream media as the enemy but now
42:13
it's time to act on the enemy before
42:15
they do a false flag I know the Justice
42:17
Department's crippled a bunch of
42:19
followers and cowards okay so we got it
42:22
maybe dissect this bit by bit so he's
42:25
saying you know who the enemy is
42:26
venom is did he say fake news or the
42:29
media he said the media said the media
42:31
and we have to be careful because
42:33
they're going to come out with the false
42:35
flag the media and I think what he's
42:37
implying is that someone in the media
42:40
will get hurt and it will be traceable
42:44
back to someone like Jones saying go
42:47
hurt the media
42:48
so so far he has not told anyone to do
42:51
anything but there's there's groups
42:53
there's grand juries there's you call
42:54
for it each time politically and
42:56
economically and and and judiciously and
42:59
legally and criminally to move against
43:03
these people it's got to be done now
43:05
any-any called the violence there yet
43:09
not by my definition no not mine either
43:12
not yet get together the people you know
43:15
aren't traitors and our cowards aren't
43:16
hedging their freakin backs like all
43:18
these other assholes do whoo and let's
43:20
go let's do it because they're coming
43:23
now in your wisdom you may be playing
43:25
possum and waiting for them to come in
43:26
but America needs to know that they've
43:30
got their little pathetic commie red
43:31
team's ready and they've got their
43:33
targets picked out the sheriff's the
43:36
judges the police chiefs the Patriots
43:38
the veterans the talk show hosts
43:39
everybody and everybody's gonna be
43:42
amazed when they come when those cowards
43:45
come and it's gonna hit in the middle of
43:47
the night and they're coming yeah and
43:50
they're coming say it again and they're
43:52
coming yeah they think they can really
43:55
take down America so people need to have
43:58
their battle rifles and everything ready
44:00
they're bedsides and you got to be ready
44:02
okay bedsides and you got to be ready
44:03
is that incitement to violence yet to
44:05
have your battle rifles ready by your
44:06
bedside with your with your with your
44:09
nightcap on I guess and your gown is
44:13
that incitement to violence
44:14
no it's an incitement to public defense
44:17
I guess yes because it's not even in
44:19
citement cause it's just telling you to
44:21
you know all right
44:22
let's we got 14 seconds less maybe it's
44:24
here the media show discipline of their
44:26
deception and Aoife attacked all these
44:28
people to our house beat up reporters
44:30
beat up women children no coverage and
44:33
they got discipline folks they've got
44:35
criminal discipline because they're a
44:38
bunch of followers that's it that's why
44:40
he was given a timeout for that video
44:43
for those words
44:46
well Lester Holtz is the liar yes
44:49
complete liar and Jack just sit there
44:52
one uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh
44:54
so that's just not true Layton's NBC law
45:00
but it will go down in history that Alex
45:02
Jones called for people to come to arms
45:05
against the media he will go down in
45:07
history that way with weapons yes that's
45:10
how it's gonna go down that is your
45:11
truth from now from this day forever
45:14
more yeah cuz they'll just harp on it
45:16
yep yeah cuz they'll just harp on it
45:17
yeah I know we've done this a million
45:19
times on this show reality versus what
45:23
they decide to make a meme a lie it's a
45:27
lie it's not a turn into a mean the lies
45:30
have turns into a meaning they would
45:32
hold all that Jones is terrible you know
45:35
what he did yeah yeah exactly
45:38
good catch I'll give you a clip of the
45:41
day for the deconstruction
45:42
[Music] for the deconstruction
45:45
here's NPR's here and now a little bit
45:52
more about the topic boy Kurt Wagner
45:54
senior editor of social media for recode
45:56
people have just been ferocious in their
45:58
criticism of Dorsey well Jack and
46:00
Twitter have been really the last
46:02
platform that still allows Alex Jones
46:05
operate and so Twitter has a long
46:07
history of really defending this idea of
46:09
free speech and you know when Jack
46:12
Dorsey came out last week and said Alex
46:14
Jones has not violated our rules but all
46:16
of the other companies found that he did
46:18
it kind of opened himself and Twitter up
46:21
for criticism so yeah he has definitely
46:22
taken a lot of heat over the last week
46:24
well how much is this complicated by the
46:27
fact that Twitter is the main message
46:29
service of our current sitting president
46:32
I mean this is speculation but how much
46:34
are people speculating that Dorsey and
46:37
Twitter might be uncomfortable about
46:39
banning someone for violating a rule
46:41
like let's say threatening violence when
46:44
you have the President of the United
46:46
States who's used Twitter to threaten
46:47
violence against whole countries yeah
46:54
hey man I think you know comparing to
46:57
what we just heard from Alex Jones
47:00
yo get your get your battle rifle your
47:02
musket put it next to your bedside with
47:04
your with your nightcap on vs. truck
47:07
saying I got a big red button and it
47:10
worked jabroni yeah she made a point
47:13
there you have the President of the
47:14
United States who's used Twitter to
47:16
threaten violence against whole
47:18
countries well I think it's very clear
47:20
that Twitter is afraid of alienating
47:23
this you know very very conservative
47:25
group is that so that's what it's called
47:27
really in some regards it's it's a group
47:29
I think that's probably crossed a line
47:30
at the same time it has said in the past
47:32
that President Trump gets you know
47:34
basically special treatment on the
47:36
platform and that because he is the
47:38
president and everything he says and
47:40
does is newsworthy you know they were
47:43
going to kind of hold him to a different
47:44
standard than everybody else and well I
47:46
think that does unfortunately as it
47:48
creates this approval for stuff that
47:51
maybe would have otherwise been violated
47:53
you know even if you know it makes sense
47:55
that the president shouldn't be kicked
47:57
off Twitter because he's the president
47:58
he kind of provides the air cover if you
48:01
will for other people who probably are
48:03
skirting those rules a little bit okay
48:06
no that's your NPR analysis look at the
48:12
pressure tactics that we're going on you
48:14
know for um sorry well I'm just gonna
48:17
say before we leave that topic
48:20
I'm not seeing the time before we leave
48:23
the his assertion standing there like
48:25
that yes ah that the president gets
48:28
special treatment what about Rob Reiner
48:31
I mean this can also get special
48:34
treatment he gets obviously special
48:36
treatment cuz I know myself and
48:38
everybody else is complaining about him
48:39
constantly in one of his tweets just
48:41
recently he's got oh it that would be
48:44
autocrat strikes again John Brenner's a
48:47
patriot stripping the former CID Ettrick
48:49
director which shouldn't have a security
48:52
clearance for sure should've fought
48:53
frighten all Patriots when did these
48:55
left wingers or be all into patriotism
48:58
in the flag this is always another one
49:02
don't you think that was making sense
49:04
well John hello welcome to 2018 and the
49:08
other one he's got when he says he calls
49:10
he calls president Trump garbage garbage
49:13
defended as criticism calling somebody
49:16
garbage especially the president the
49:19
United States I think is rude but
49:20
calling somebody garbage is not
49:23
criticism somebody garbage is not
49:27
No what are they what do they say when
49:28
the president does it
49:31
oh yeah they jump all over it yeah but
49:33
they have a word for it I'm sure yeah
49:35
well anyway yeah it's not they don't use
49:37
they don't say he criticized that's for
49:39
sure slammed
49:41
that's pretty much
49:44
pressure tactics why did Jack do this
49:45
because clearly there was no violation
49:47
if he actually listened or read a
49:49
transcript I think even the transcript
49:50
he couldn't get confused about there
49:52
being incitement to violence against its
49:54
particular group this in this case the
49:56
media Lester Holt know a couple of ways
50:01
the first one this is the one that I
50:03
find interesting is there's a version of
50:05
a Media Matters group out there and they
50:08
use something called block together and
50:10
block together
50:13
funny this is a coincidence I didn't
50:16
bring it up on the show but I ran into
50:17
the block together woman Shannon can
50:20
occur yeah
50:22
Oh tell as I didn't run into her purse
50:25
they ran into her on Twitter you wanna
50:27
explain what it is first they're doing
50:28
or do you need to she's got this program
50:30
I haven't it's an app looked into now
50:33
she's got this what it's an app yeah
50:37
yeah program app what is an app what is
50:42
app shortcut is what is the phone
50:45
application software it's growing on
50:47
this is a program yes a phone program
50:51
and so what you do is you plug it in and
50:54
you push the but you've got a block list
50:56
of about I think it's 453 advertiser you
50:59
can imagine yeah and you push this
51:02
button and now you've blocked them well
51:04
what they do is they select a number of
51:06
them who are advertising currently on
51:07
Twitter or whoever they're attacking
51:09
they'll and then everyone blocks that
51:11
advertiser on mass which I think does
51:15
show up in their best statistics I think
51:21
they will see a loss of well engagement
51:24
certainly but views or whatever the the
51:27
measure is so they probably notice it
51:29
and then they certainly hear about it I
51:31
don't know how effective it is but I
51:32
think this thing works I think these
51:34
type this proves you cannot monetize the
51:36
network by the way because no matter how
51:39
big you are people are bigger and so I
51:42
have to say although I disagree with it
51:44
I think it's a pretty cool idea
51:47
I thought it was a really cool idea I
51:48
don't like it either and I don't like
51:51
what they're trying to do and there's
51:52
just a bunch of lefties that are just
51:54
you know I mettlesome HAP but this kind
51:57
of stuff it can't be stopped this this
51:59
is is what I mean by you can't monetize
52:01
the network you can't do the same thing
52:03
on the other side this yeah it's not
52:06
what you would call you know something
52:08
it's not gonna land a Brockett on the
52:10
moon it's just this little piece of code
52:13
that anybody could rewrite to put other
52:15
lists together oh yeah that's a great
52:17
idea should be like a whole bunch of
52:19
these yeah we could have the No Agenda
52:20
block list enough very short we love
52:25
everybody there's a lot of people we're
52:28
not blockers now there was a claim made
52:34
which I believe to be true by Marco
52:38
Marco is the guy who does the overcast
52:41
app which is heralded as the best
52:42
podcast app I think he has some of the
52:44
best features I'd like that he's an
52:46
independent developer I like a lot about
52:49
him a lot about his product is too for
52:51
pay product is very inexpensive and it's
52:53
extremely good he actually came up with
52:56
a new idea to put a little a new tag
53:01
into the RSS definition Oh as an as a
53:05
what do you call it as a namespace for
53:08
donations so that now any podcast feed
53:12
will be recognized by overcast and it's
53:14
catching on so I think other podcast
53:15
apps will do it that there's a little
53:17
dollar sign button or if you're in
53:19
Europe a euro button and you click on
53:21
that it'll take you right to that shows
53:23
donation page regardless of what it is
53:25
whether it's like us with a Dvorak org
53:27
slash na or a patreon page I think
53:30
that's good I like that he's doing that
53:31
stuff good I like that he's doing that
53:31
but I don't like is that he was using
53:34
the Apple podcast directory so as we
53:38
discussed in the previous show when app
53:40
will remove something it get room it
53:42
gets removed all the way down the line
53:43
because these developers of app I'm
53:47
sorry phone podcast programs don't have
53:52
the via the ambition I guess to create a
53:57
directory themselves and I have ideas on
53:59
that which we talked about
54:01
time but turns out Marco had actually
54:04
overridden the Apple API and banned Alex
54:08
Jones before Apple did it and in this
54:11
snippet from his from his own podcast
54:14
you'll hear that he starts off by saying
54:17
well you know some person who was upset
54:19
but listen to the pressure that was put
54:21
on this one single independent guy what
54:25
happened last week is the Alex Jones
54:26
Show there basically would happen is it
54:29
crossed a whole bunch of lines of like
54:31
things that you know it things like hate
54:33
speech and by the way he's an incredible
54:36
lefty and didn't even hear the video
54:38
obviously he didn't hear what what the
54:40
line crossing was but that's okay that's
54:42
his religion and you know inciting
54:44
violence and things of that nature that
54:46
like that are against Apple's terms for
54:48
what they allow in a podcast directory
54:49
and are in many jurisdictions are
54:51
actually illegal and so a listener
54:54
emailed me saying hey I'm leaving your
54:57
app because you host this con a listener
54:59
tent and in you know it's horrible I
55:01
looked and I'm like you know this this
55:03
should not be allowed like this is
55:05
clearly a violation clearly it's not
55:09
you're full of shit of Apple's own
55:11
content guidelines I do have a mechanism
55:13
in overcast that I can override a feed
55:18
that would otherwise show up and I can
55:20
say this feed should not show up I
55:22
haven't used this mechanism very often I
55:25
used it once before for NRA TV for
55:29
similar reasons that I believe that it
55:31
was violating Apple's own guidelines
55:33
I used this flag on these Infowars
55:37
properties because it was very clear
55:40
that they were violating Apple's
55:41
guidelines but Apple was not removing it
55:44
from their directory and I was hearing
55:45
about it from a lot of people oh and now
55:47
it's a lot of people I went from one
55:49
email to a lot of people gee I wonder
55:51
you know a few days shooters I heard did
55:54
that Apple pulled him from the directory
55:56
and so did everyone else basically and
56:00
so you know I think I was proven right
56:02
it was you know had I known Apple was
56:05
gonna pull them a few days later I might
56:07
have just waited for them to do it so
56:08
that way it like I'm not involved in
56:09
this and I really try I hope to use it
56:13
as little as
56:14
because I don't want to put myself in
56:15
this position but sometimes you have to
56:17
be in this position like sometimes
56:18
something this happens where people are
56:21
you know demanding immediate action oh
56:25
this is really escalated in the course
56:28
of two minutes and you look at the
56:30
problem and you're like well I kind of
56:32
don't like that I'm seeming that I'm
56:33
being kind of bullied into a decision
56:35
like this but if you look at the you
56:38
know look at the actually I think he
56:40
used the word the the term he was
56:42
bullied into doing this
56:45
that sounds like a pressure group to me
56:47
and you're like well I kind of don't
56:50
like that I'm seeming that I'm being
56:51
kind of bullied into a decision like
56:53
this but if you look at the you know
56:56
look at the actual situation it's like
56:58
yeah this actually should be solved like
56:59
this is a problem this does require
57:00
action so they're correct like the peep
57:03
that people ask me who those are correct
57:04
so it's important not to think
57:06
defensively in that time and just say
57:07
okay actually yeah this is right I
57:09
should take action and just do it anyway
57:12
so going by favorite topic so deep so so
57:17
so going by favorite topic so deep so so
57:18
Wow yeah now that is a chilling clip to
57:24
me it is he got bullied now bit fits
57:27
within his purview and the lies that he
57:30
was largely happy to do had the lies
57:32
that he believes in and he said he
57:34
looked at it and he said yeah that
57:35
clearly violate no it didn't have didn't
57:38
violate anything I don't think it
57:39
violated Apple's Terms of Service either
57:40
not that it matters but it is just the
57:44
line needs to be pointed out I think
57:46
there's plenty of stuff you could get
57:47
Jones on wait for something good
57:51
you know wait for something good don't
57:54
don't do it like this is stupid but the
57:56
purge flows through a lot and we don't
57:59
think about this but here well patreon
58:03
is now closing accounts at the behest of
58:08
MasterCard now closing accounts at the behest of
58:11
they are they say hey MasterCard has
58:13
said we can't process for this
58:16
particular podcast or this type of
58:19
content for your patreon we're sorry
58:22
your accounts closed buh-bye so that's
58:25
the power of MasterCard who did the same
58:27
with WikiLeaks and then a dude named Ben
58:30
working for a large organization he just
58:32
discovered that the firewall we use Palo
58:35
Alto Networks has flagged Infowars as
58:38
having questionable content that is now
58:40
blocked on our internal network
58:41
he was never blocked before so it seems
58:44
that firewall providers have just jumped
58:46
on the bandwagon along with Apple etc
58:48
yeah that's what happens it's a it's a
58:52
domino to Scala about this two weeks ago
58:55
yes the net yeah to cascade and the
58:59
blacklisting my blog was blacklisted
59:02
over and over again until I changed the
59:04
title line on the HTML from uncensored
59:06
yeah line on the HTML from uncensored
59:09
so Wow so this is this is horrible so it
59:12
go it can go pretty deep now what
59:15
happens at a certain point does there
59:17
were students neutrality everybody saw
59:19
about net neutrality we got palo alto
59:21
networks net neutrality we got palo alto
59:22
well this locking some guy well this is
59:24
it this is net neutrality this is what
59:26
this is what we would have seen on a
59:27
massive scale
59:29
i think we dodged the bullet
59:32
but that but this this type of and it
59:35
really is almost a an invert well yeah
59:38
it's like an inverse of them of the
59:39
micro-services you know although it's
59:42
still human fed people here oh that guy
59:44
have ban him okay click and then it's
59:46
firewalls that are deployed all across
59:48
corporations thought tens hundreds of
59:50
thousands of corporations click it's
59:52
free Wi-Fi outfits that won't provide it
59:55
anymore that we've had that happen and
59:57
as you said with your blog we've had it
59:59
happen in other ways my mail server
1:00:00
sometimes that gets on a black list and
1:00:03
I have to beg and plead to get taken off
1:00:05
so my my email isn't sent to spam
1:00:09
you know this this is a little more
1:00:13
serious than just getting kicked off a
1:00:14
Twitter than just getting kicked off a
1:00:19
well than just getting kicked off a
1:00:21
hmm that's really interesting
1:00:24
well this is what it is these guy means
1:00:26
promises the tech community somehow
1:00:27
turned left some time ago mm-hmm I never
1:00:30
could put my finger on why I can tell
1:00:33
you this much I remember one time going
1:00:34
shooting with a CEO from one of the a
1:00:39
well-known company and he says to me he
1:00:43
says whatever you do don't ever tell
1:00:47
anyone you went shooting with me I said
1:00:51
oh yeah that's like ray Lane was the
1:00:53
same at Kleiner Perkins yeah he didn't a
1:00:55
nice because people be freaking out that
1:00:57
he had guns yeah and so I said okay I
1:01:00
have a problem with that and then he
1:01:01
specifically mentioned John Doerr mm-hm
1:01:04
as going kind of apeshit at a Halloween
1:01:08
party because somebody was but their kid
1:01:11
dressed up as a cowboy without the rod
1:01:14
with a cap gun guy I mean this is where
1:01:23
the whole in the whole of Silicon Valley
1:01:26
I mean the the tech community and the
1:01:29
venture capitalists who are many of whom
1:01:31
are billionaires which is just backing
1:01:33
up our thesis that the Democrat Party is
1:01:35
the rich party trying to keep everybody
1:01:37
down which I don't diminishment forever
1:01:40
so long as the black community doesn't
1:01:41
recognize that they're gonna be forever
1:01:43
in them in in trouble they just keep
1:01:46
everybody in place because you don't
1:01:47
want any you know things to get really
1:01:50
you know what you want to talk a big
1:01:51
game and do nothing which is what seems
1:01:53
to be the case with these billionaires
1:01:55
they don't they don't want to have
1:01:56
anything any possibility of losing any
1:01:58
money right and so the Democrats always
1:02:00
blame the Republicans oh they're making
1:02:02
the rich richer and all the rest of it's
1:02:03
always the Democrats doing that and and
1:02:05
the whole Silicon Valley is all rarely
1:02:08
fight they were number of Republicans
1:02:10
there's minor is probably 20% well that
1:02:15
well that was Ray late ray Lena kleiner
1:02:17
perkins who was the guy who put together
1:02:19
the the 500 million dollar government
1:02:21
grant for Fisker
1:02:24
he didn't work in the business after
1:02:25
that one
1:02:27
he went shooting all the time in Japan
1:02:30
talk about it here and people don't like
1:02:31
that so much
1:02:32
a John Doerr he's a card he went he was
1:02:34
invested in my company at this one point
1:02:37
took me aside yes and his 16 year old
1:02:39
daughter was completely completely
1:02:41
unhinged and he want me to talk to her
1:02:44
see if I could fix her like no gonna do
1:02:47
that yeah but you understand young
1:02:50
people no no I'm not qualified for that
1:02:54
John sorry not qualified and with that
1:02:57
I'd like to thank you for your courage
1:03:00
and say in the morning to you John see
1:03:02
you I see Sam's for our espec Devorah
1:03:07
Hank any morning you mr. Adam curry also
1:03:10
in the morning all shifts to see boots
1:03:11
on the ground subs in the water speech
1:03:14
pores and all the Dames tonight's out
1:03:17
there yes in the morning to the troll
1:03:21
room one second um that's interesting it
1:03:25
seems like my website is down yeah you
1:03:28
get shut down by the blacklist wouldn't
1:03:31
surprise me
1:03:31
hey troll room how you doing no agenda
1:03:33
stream calm you guys are always doing
1:03:36
doing good for me and the show and I
1:03:39
appreciate it trolled our VCO 5 cyborg
1:03:42
Dave garlic a cult fan dying monkey and
1:03:45
there's always Doug and I also want to
1:03:47
say a hearty in the morning to Darin
1:03:50
O'Neill who brought us the episode
1:03:51
artwork the album artwork for 10:59 the
1:03:54
title that was barrel roll and this was
1:03:59
the roundup bottles with great no agenda
1:04:03
font and a star advertising smash pop
1:04:07
out sticker that said now with more
1:04:09
cancer yeah it was very good very good
1:04:12
done he's done good work in the past but
1:04:14
he's one of those guys I wanted to
1:04:16
mention and then that he's one of those
1:04:18
guys if you look at his cuz you can
1:04:19
click on the artist to see all their
1:04:21
work he's one of those guys like Martin
1:04:23
JJ that went probably for more than a
1:04:25
year or two without getting anything
1:04:27
picked and he's starting to get a bunch
1:04:28
of stuff picked yeah and then all of a
1:04:30
sudden he had to stop he was just
1:04:32
getting picked well Martin JJ did yeah
1:04:34
yeah there's too much women picked every
1:04:36
week it was too much winning
1:04:38
ouch remind me about my curious Monsanto
1:04:42
email I want to say something about that
1:04:43
later I want to say something about that
1:04:44
ooh well okay let me write it down
1:04:47
curious Monsanto email yes I think I
1:04:51
think they have an army of shields out
1:04:53
there trying to convince people oh yeah
1:04:56
of course they do well I think I got one
1:04:59
oh well that's good cuz they never got a
1:05:01
hold of me alright let's thank a few
1:05:03
people Furby producing and associates
1:05:05
executive producing executive producing
1:05:07
show ten sixty yes
1:05:09
starting with AHA now I have to mention
1:05:13
there's a few it's a lot sounds like a
1:05:15
lot more in some ways because I hadn't
1:05:18
picked up the mail this is the this is
1:05:20
the mail for three shows oh okay gotcha
1:05:23
we got a lot of office yes I was gone
1:05:26
yeah and so did anima scam in Iran a
1:05:29
missive dog passion loris LeBeau via
1:05:31
with an 888 888 dollars which marked our
1:05:35
8/8 the anniversary and everything in
1:05:37
between so he says I'd like to remind
1:05:40
listeners to subscribe during these
1:05:42
Dogpatch days of summer agree or
1:05:45
disagree this program offers unfiltered
1:05:47
analysis of the political for-profit
1:05:49
press for profit is great but non-stop
1:05:53
biased reporting is designed to get
1:05:55
listeners to agree and an agreeable
1:05:57
person is more likely to buy the
1:05:59
advertised products
1:06:02
yes which is which is the model is what
1:06:04
the true you try to do get people you
1:06:07
find out what you know yeah yeah yeah
1:06:08
they're not in their head just once you
1:06:10
start nodding their heads you're and
1:06:11
then you sell him something you're in
1:06:13
glitch during a return flight last month
1:06:17
I trans transited through Dubai and by
1:06:21
the way I didn't notice any global
1:06:23
warming there when I turn on my phone
1:06:26
and connected to their service I
1:06:28
received the text welcome to Canada
1:06:33
I always keep the location off my phone
1:06:35
but does the UAE sometimes turn on its
1:06:38
location but it turned its location off
1:06:40
too it was a first for me and I just
1:06:43
left me wondering how that could happen
1:06:46
in the eighth month of 2018 and knowing
1:06:49
the sum of all our currently printed
1:06:50
paper currency is 188 dollars $100 bill
1:06:54
$50 bill $20 bill $10 bill $5 $2 $1 how
1:06:58
could I miss an 888 opportunity
1:07:01
I also wish to add all the happy Eid
1:07:04
al-adha and encourage Adam to try John's
1:07:08
goat recipe this month if he hasn't
1:07:10
already recipe this month if he hasn't
1:07:11
it's the perfect holiday feast and J and
1:07:15
K is the way he wraps it as usual sarong
1:07:18
sword anonymous is our guy thank you
1:07:21
very much and thanks it's great Triple
1:07:23
Eight opportunity I would like for him
1:07:26
to come back with his next commentary
1:07:28
and see if he could figure out why it
1:07:30
says welcome to Canada when he was going
1:07:34
to Dubai you never know how that goes
1:07:38
he has some like a little PS at the end
1:07:41
just for me but he mentions he says
1:07:43
makes us comment at the end about he's
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talking about social media and how the
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cookies and all the stuff does work and
1:07:50
he just has this kind of I want to read
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it this is basically zip code plus for
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COMPETES pretty well with cookies and
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algos but it's just not as sexy if snail
1:08:02
mail didn't work you wouldn't get so
1:08:04
many catalogs we drop at 9 follow the
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rabbit catalogs we drop at 9 follow the
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all right he's talking in code people
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okay onward um yep I'm sorry when they
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moved to the email and I've got to come
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back to the email and I've got to come
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Scott Scott and Mary Beth McKay McKay or
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Mackey Scott and Mary Beth McKay McKay or
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but smack a McCain okay okay okay 288 26
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from st. Mary's Ontario and we have
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another note written in here it was a
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good nice donation isn't canon AV and
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money so I had this funny one that comes
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in you have to send it through
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collections collections what are we here
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we are we repo man now it's a bank
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process color selections oh because
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that's to be settled yeah has to be said
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long live Bitcoin Bitcoin would help
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greeting Jon and Adam thank you for you
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how's it gonna help the bank doesn't
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take it
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nevermind this has to be settled I have
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to convert it so that's the same thing
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as what I'm doing with this check ok I'm
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not only the difference is I just give
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this check to say hey look settled
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settle this just give it to them they do
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the work jump it went okay are you it
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I'm not I'm not going to get into it
1:09:22
with you
1:09:24
thank you for your good work uh Scott
1:09:27
and Mary right I can't tell which is
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writing the donations for my son's
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birthday August 26th Mitch
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McKay get the check it out to make sure
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it's on there my wife and I saw your
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show this is our second donation towards
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my son's knighthood and you can you send
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some common sense karma to all the
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politicians here in Kanda Naevia it's
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getting really frustrating here holy
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bright light seems to be and the only
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bright light light seems to be Jordan
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Peterson and he's not exactly a
1:10:02
politician yeah he's not a politician
1:10:04
thanks again he's gotten married right I
1:10:09
shouldn't mention I wrote an essay in
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the last newsletter which I recommend
1:10:14
people to look at and in it to clarify
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some what I was gonna discuss I put a
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Jordan Peterson paragraph from the wiki
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page yes and so somebody wrote on
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Twitter says I stopped reading when I
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saw the Jordan Peterson Court it wasn't
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a Jordan placeholder you get pushback on
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this it was I don't know how they call
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that pushback from it's just a douchebag
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hmm yeah so I blocked him yeah because
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he said Jordan Peterson is a Nazi didn't
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you know that no I didn't ask
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Canadian Nazi the best anonymous $333
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he's anonymous I'm donating for Sunday
1:11:01
after hearing John said he was looking
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into Apple censorship I love you guys I
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love the show and both shows are the
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highlight of my week for jingles I would
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like a random jingle preferably not
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Manning or Sharpton oh nice sorry I'd
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cued up a Manning and a Sharpton I
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misread it okay keep going it's funny
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and plug China uncensored for its news
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Corsi nation which is trying to teach
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citizen journalism I would like to plug
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Alex Jones for inspiration but he
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doesn't need due to circumstances I love
1:11:37
the show so much I'm trying to figure
1:11:39
out how to donate a sustaining donation
1:11:41
weekly so to pad your numbers on Sunday
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where it seems to be needed the most
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hang in there guys we're doing great
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work despite donations and as a guy not
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making much in in tone of the overtaxed
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States in Gitmo nation and going to
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college part time let's just say money
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as tight as one commentator I listen to
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says put your money where your mind is
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and you guys are worth it anyway karma
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for all especially for my friend who hit
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me in the mouth and karma in Hope set
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low unemployment will eventually raise
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wages to something livable for a slaves
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hear hear uh I would like you guys to
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take on a homebrew theory of mine with
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inspiration from you guys
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Jones and a few other journal journalist
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sources I'm just hoping I'm nuts so I
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haven't seen this a look at the link
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before we continue I forgot to give out
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the Canadian politician karma this guy
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this guy needs some random clips and
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karma for everybody yeah see what I got
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for you
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you thought karma okay
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onward thought karma okay
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Barun net tests check out that link and
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tell me if it's interesting baronet test
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Susan Johnson and Newberg she's a for
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power associate executive producer for
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today's show
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$280 since she sent in a note lots of
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notes ITM Jon and Adam around April I
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asked for her house selling karma I am
1:13:24
now in the middle of moving
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I am moving to Hillsboro Oh Hillsboro
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Oregon which is a wine growing area by
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the way one of the first I've ever said
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near the Willamette village of Valley I
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don't know that it is okay maybe
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somebody can look it up right just
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always order wine from the Willamette
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Valley because that's how you pronounce
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it lamb it yep well amat had been that
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cruise to that area is very very very
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interesting wine growing community
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Mitchell Kaufman the Grand Duke of the
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Pacific Northwest and the rest of what
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happened to Baroness that was it
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no he's she just said she's moving to
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Hillsboro she didn't need karma for that
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no I'm sure still reading the note
1:14:11
oh I'm sorry Mitchell Kaufman the Grand
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Duke of the Pacific Northwest and the
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rest of you at Portland area it's time
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for a meet up I get it okay
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this donation is for a sir American
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carnage whose birthday is the 18th
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you'll be turning 28
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as always thank you for doing what you
1:14:32
do baronet this Susan Johnson soon to be
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of not to be of Newburgh but of
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Hillsboro okay okay Joe some karma out
1:14:44
for her you got moving drama you've got
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karma Charles aka sir optician in
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Mankato Minnesota to 60-59
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Charles this actually pronounced appeal
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Charles Peele from Mankato Minnesota a
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case or a petition surreptitious
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surreptitious get it yes she passed
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night at the tenth anniversary show
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since it's my birthday today and I had a
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minor mention on show 1058 I figured it
1:15:23
was the sign that I was overdue for
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another donation to 60-59 is five
1:15:27
dollars a week for another year of
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fantastic shows plus another fifty nine
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cents for my age today hmm all right I
1:15:34
always said it's good good bit mm-hmm I
1:15:37
always keep one podcast in reserve for
1:15:40
entertainment while mowing the lawn my
1:15:42
neighbors probably think I'm nuts as I
1:15:44
write around the yard on my mower
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laughing and commenting to myself about
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the show we need video keep up the shows
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keep the shows coming gentlemen I would
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love to hear the old classic don't look
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over here and words do matter jingles
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along with some general goat karma thank
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you don't look over here
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[Music] don't look over here
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you've got Austin Wilson at two hundred
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thirty three dollars and 33 cents from
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Sammamish Washington I joined that and
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keep up the great deconstruction of the
1:16:28
m5m I'd like job karma for my wife Laura
1:16:31
we would have been at the Seattle meetup
1:16:34
last week but we were dead out of town
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looks like it was her it was a great
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time for all jobs jobs jobs and jobs
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let's go John karma okay
1:16:51
and when we're to Jeremy I'm looking at
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they have to look at his email Susan
1:16:56
okay great
1:16:58
Jeremy tossed 22222 I have it you know I
1:17:08
was sneaking it in let's just do that
1:17:16
over again yeah you have the note this
1:17:20
is gonna happen a lot yeah the gentleman
1:17:22
that should be effectively d douche me
1:17:24
following as much deserved call out from
1:17:26
fellow producer Ellen Sibley a few shows
1:17:28
back to the ring Sibley please send out
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some very special human resource karma
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for my good friends fill in Ali
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Schumacher as baby one is scheduled to
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drop today she work on music music
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business whatever better gift could I
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ever missed or than arranging virtual
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aspiration from uncle uncles crackpot
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and buzzkill hey if I can also ask for
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some house selling buying Karma for
1:18:09
myself I would appreciate it greatly
1:18:10
thank you both there's so much what you
1:18:12
do finding your show many years ago and
1:18:14
listening faithfully ever since has
1:18:16
impacted me to an extent that my entire
1:18:19
trajectory has been altered
1:18:22
oh I'm eternally very grateful for that
1:18:25
and owe you both a portion a portion of
1:18:28
something for my sanity well thank you
1:18:31
very much that I that I appreciate
1:18:33
hearing that he says your biggest mouse
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hitter in Grand Rapids Michigan all
1:18:38
right so we got human resource drop in
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karma and some house karma for him was
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that what it was it's like you've got
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karma and now we have and this one I
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haven't gotten to there it is ladies and
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gentleman's looking for that donation
1:19:05
note can you find it before the jingles
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over he can because he gets no spam his
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name is the one and only
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[Music] is the one and only
1:19:28
ya know curiously you don't have it let
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me try something new wow that's Phil
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it's Dave man is Dave for Rosato it
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maybe it's Davis is his date David is
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Dave he's not here looking guns at oh
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let's see why I can't keep my spot you
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did without looking right out I can't
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I'm not obviously smelling food is odo
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correct here it is gentlemen encloses my
1:20:02
latest contribution to further your
1:20:03
ongoing mission by the way that's Dada
1:20:05
Dada Dada Dada outlook okay it closes my
1:20:09
latest contribution to further your
1:20:11
ongoing mission of media deconstruction
1:20:13
excuse the length of the comments below
1:20:14
but thanks for indulging us members of
1:20:15
the peerage we started a new academic
1:20:17
year in preparation for a teaching
1:20:19
lesson on communication I came across a
1:20:21
note on the importance of listening and
1:20:23
specifically how difficult it is to be a
1:20:25
good listener
1:20:27
one of my most important aspects of the
1:20:30
No Agenda show is that it helps me be a
1:20:32
better listener I am forced to pay close
1:20:35
attention to get the most out of each
1:20:37
show and the lingering effects of the No
1:20:39
Agenda mindset also improves my critical
1:20:42
thinking skills and by the way I don't
1:20:44
think it works so well when you're
1:20:46
running in at one and a half or two
1:20:47
times speed I agree or the people have
1:20:50
it where it chops out the spaces in
1:20:52
between I don't even know about that yes
1:20:54
like ruining my art second I had an
1:20:57
experience with one of the phone banks
1:20:59
reminding me to vote last week I was
1:21:01
amused because he made sure to tell me
1:21:03
to get out and cast a vote for two
1:21:04
specific candidates one of whom's last
1:21:06
name he didn't know I asked where he was
1:21:08
calling from and he wasn't even in the
1:21:09
same state I told him and he didn't give
1:21:11
me much confidence with his lack of
1:21:13
knowledge and conveyed this to his
1:21:14
supervisor as well probably not his
1:21:16
fault as he was likely just a kid trying
1:21:18
to buff up his college fund with a
1:21:19
summer phone bank job still the lack of
1:21:22
attention to detail was telling and the
1:21:24
experience track closely with the
1:21:26
discussion last show again I get a lot
1:21:28
of these types of calls mostly for the
1:21:30
guy who previously had that number I
1:21:32
always use it as a chance to hit people
1:21:33
in the mouth and I always ask
1:21:35
emily's list for good HVAC
1:21:37
recommendations they love it
1:21:41
keep up the superb deconstruction thanks
1:21:43
for your courage yeah we you that's an
1:21:45
interesting idea but you get one of
1:21:46
those you know I get lots of phone call
1:21:50
Nomad if you if you press three to be
1:21:55
put on there do not call this your phone
1:21:56
is ringing all day by the horrible scams
1:22:00
where's Elizabeth Warren when when we
1:22:03
need her she promised yeah anyway you
1:22:06
know I think it's a good idea so hey is
1:22:07
this is this Adam Carey I would say
1:22:10
who's calling last how is that why you
1:22:12
calling calling last how is that why you
1:22:13
do you listen to the no agenda show is
1:22:15
gonna be my next line D listen the no
1:22:17
agenda show B yeah let's see if that
1:22:19
works maybe I can hit some people in the
1:22:20
mouth well what I do and I've done this
1:22:22
I don't do it as much because I'm
1:22:24
usually annoyed so I don't remember to
1:22:25
do it as much as I should but I do it I
1:22:27
said you got yours telling you this buy
1:22:30
something or do something do you have a
1:22:31
pen you have a pen and paper I gotta
1:22:32
tell you something this is great this
1:22:36
yeah I got a pen I got paper I said
1:22:38
write this down www agenda show com you
1:22:44
should listen to this show because you
1:22:46
won't be able to you won't have these
1:22:47
horrible jobs like this if you just pay
1:22:51
some attention to you know maybe get
1:22:52
back to a real reality so just give it a
1:22:55
shot and then they're just so baffled
1:22:57
then I hang up good idea I like making
1:22:59
him write it down that's excellent
1:23:01
yeah if they might be writing in this
1:23:04
guy for all you know I mean these guys
1:23:05
yeah that's why I'm still funny still
1:23:07
funny right onward onward Thomasville
1:23:11
wolf forth in Hendersonville North
1:23:14
Carolina $200 a lot of North Carolinians
1:23:18
coming in today the newsletter today
1:23:21
reminded me of the value I received from
1:23:23
the show and that while I do have a
1:23:25
monthly eleven eleven for years and
1:23:27
remem recently moved to 33 33 it's
1:23:31
unacceptable that I'm not a knight yet
1:23:32
I'm still not but as I've been saying
1:23:34
for years I soon will be please throw on
1:23:37
a karma with a TBI tu at the end of this
1:23:41
donation section for you and all the
1:23:43
other producers
1:23:44
thank you very much Thomas and I look
1:23:46
forward to your ceremony you will get
1:23:48
there no doubt
1:23:50
you've got karma stay on the air until
1:23:53
you do
1:23:53
[Music] do
1:23:55
Sir John Helmer and Shawnee Kansas City
1:24:00
Kansas recent no agendas shows have been
1:24:03
excellent recent no agendas shows have been
1:24:04
John's abrasiveness aside
1:24:09
thank you for your tireless efforts to
1:24:11
deconstruct the m5m can I get a el
1:24:15
Sharpton dealer choice foamer goat
1:24:18
scream karma sir John
1:24:22
yes you can but resist we much we must
1:24:26
and we will much about that the
1:24:31
committee apparently a new favorite
1:24:44
amongst the ringtone crowd yeah seems to
1:24:49
work well for them I'm reliably informed
1:24:52
nice sounds like a good ringtone to try
1:24:57
out yeah that's it yeah that's it that I
1:25:03
want to thank all these folks specially
1:25:05
the executive producers and associate
1:25:06
executive producers which are are all
1:25:09
these folks for helping produce show 10
1:25:12
60 yes thank you very much and these
1:25:13
titles that you've received today are
1:25:15
real titles so your executive producer
1:25:17
ship where your associate executive
1:25:18
producer ship is valid you can put it on
1:25:21
your resume your LinkedIn profile which
1:25:24
does seem to work people are getting
1:25:27
jobs go ahead and take a look look for
1:25:29
no agenda producers on LinkedIn you'll
1:25:32
see that they are experiencing jobs I
1:25:34
think that's what it says
1:25:36
and we appreciate you keeping the ship
1:25:39
running and the the show on the road
1:25:42
will be thanking more people who came in
1:25:43
at $50 or above in our second segment
1:25:45
and a reminder we have another show on
1:25:48
Sunday we can always use your support at
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Dvorak org slash na or as we'd like to
1:25:52
sing it at Vollrath org slash and not
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only do we can start for you we make you
1:25:58
feel better and give you nice
1:25:59
tips our formula is this we go out or
1:26:04
hit people in the mouth
1:26:05
[Applause] people in the mouth
1:26:12
[Music] people in the mouth
1:26:19
yeah so you have this thesis that I've
1:26:23
subscribed to which is that people say
1:26:25
things on podcast they normally don't
1:26:27
say and there's a lot of these video
1:26:32
interview podcasts by we want to be
1:26:35
interviewers and many of them are very
1:26:37
well produced uh-huh does one guy I
1:26:40
discovered as Patrick bettin I think
1:26:44
this Patrick bet - David mm-hmm who
1:26:46
interviews a lot of very interesting and
1:26:49
many shady characters and he did I have
1:26:53
four clips well can be I can play one
1:26:55
two or many but I'll give him I'm gonna
1:26:57
start with the teaser of the of these of
1:26:59
this group this is Michael Friends se
1:27:02
who is a ex mobster and a good Colombo
1:27:05
crime family when the Kennedys were
1:27:07
coming up his father was not the most
1:27:20
set up at the end of the clip was his
1:27:22
idea he's talking about his dad who has
1:27:25
a major majorly famous mobster and his
1:27:30
dad who's still alive at a hundred which
1:27:33
in effect he was just released from
1:27:34
prison recently at a hundred years old
1:27:36
Wow and he appeared he was big shot
1:27:39
during the Jenna Vaisey era that you
1:27:42
know when all the families were like all
1:27:44
together before they all got taken down
1:27:46
by the various Rico action until they
1:27:48
got into drugs and ruined the business
1:27:50
and so he's talking in this case in this
1:27:53
zero clip he's talking about Donnie
1:27:54
Brasco and the fact that it took out
1:27:57
like a hundred mobsters that and it was
1:27:59
made into a movie with Johnny Depp and
1:28:00
who is he he's a law enforcement officer
1:28:05
whoo Donnie Brasco of it was a different
1:28:10
guy that was his name I think he went by
1:28:12
right in the sea when he played a
1:28:14
gangster he was an undercover guy who's
1:28:17
was undercover with the mob for six
1:28:19
years yeah and it did mob was very upset
1:28:22
about it and now he's relating I'm sure
1:28:25
he's talking about Brasco here and and
1:28:27
how just one group of criminals got
1:28:32
careless and let him in and then he took
1:28:35
the whole group down a lot of other
1:28:37
people and was very very disappointing
1:28:39
and then he says he almost had a similar
1:28:41
experience of some creeps coming in and
1:28:44
but but he avoided it and there's a
1:28:46
piece of information in here that
1:28:47
explains something to me you know you
1:28:50
get a guy like lefty you get some of
1:28:51
those guys that are really not earnest
1:28:53
bigger owners and you get somebody to
1:28:54
turn it could put a few bucks in that
1:28:56
pocket they get a little sloppy they
1:28:58
don't look that far back and I'll tell
1:28:59
you I had that experience too okay I get
1:29:02
contacted in a minute was a huge case
1:29:04
they called it shadowboxing I get
1:29:07
contacted by a guy that was with
1:29:09
Muhammad Ali the FBI took him out of
1:29:12
prison and put him in this undercover
1:29:13
operation along with an FBI agent that
1:29:16
went undercover his name was Victor
1:29:18
Quint Anna and he allegedly was a drug
1:29:20
dealer at one point in time they cleaned
1:29:22
up his act but had a ton of money wanted
1:29:24
to get into the fight business so they
1:29:26
come to me can you introduce us to Don
1:29:29
King I'm with these people for eight
1:29:31
months I'm with these people for eight
1:29:31
okay all the while they're recording
1:29:35
everything that I do
1:29:35
I had like 83 recordings on me I take
1:29:38
them finally throughout Sharpton now
1:29:40
shopping has it done for hire with him a
1:29:43
lot right and I make out Sharpton set up
1:29:46
a meeting with Don King to bring these
1:29:48
two guys to meet King so we go there and
1:29:50
first I check out the FBI had set up a
1:29:53
bank account that had 15 million dollars
1:29:55
in a bank in the Midwest the FBI said oh
1:29:57
yeah yeah I bring them to King Wynn
1:29:59
Kings office I go in there first I said
1:30:02
Don let me tell you some I know these
1:30:04
guys seven or eight months there are
1:30:05
high rollers that drive in a Rolls Royce
1:30:07
we went to Florida together they want to
1:30:09
meet you I said but I don't know him
1:30:11
past that I said so when we talk in here
1:30:14
everything's got to be legit I'll say
1:30:16
anything wrong everything legit let me
1:30:18
keep looking for
1:30:19
and a meeting went great bottom line is
1:30:21
they were asking for more money to
1:30:23
continue the operation the FBI said no
1:30:25
because after a year they could still
1:30:27
couldn't do anything and then the whole
1:30:29
thing fell apart we found out later that
1:30:30
it was an undercover operation Sports
1:30:32
Illustrated Wow huge deal on it
1:30:35
al Sharpton the Rev the the connector
1:30:40
out on the coast he'll take some area
1:30:43
I look good into this a she call him a
1:30:47
hit man ha ha
1:30:48
and they did dissolve this operation I
1:30:51
read that article and then it was
1:30:53
written 91 and it was about this this
1:30:55
shadowboxing undercover sting and what
1:30:59
comes out of it was is the following
1:31:02
timeline this undercover sting to ask a
1:31:06
question just because I don't understand
1:31:09
shadowboxing what when you say that I
1:31:11
don't understand what that means well he
1:31:13
said that was the code name for the
1:31:15
undercover op okay got it
1:31:17
so he that was what the FBI call it and
1:31:21
he said that in that clip okay anyway so
1:31:23
you look into this and this thing took
1:31:26
place from 88 89 or I'm sorry 82 to 83
1:31:31
and it ended they ended it and he's the
1:31:34
way he says it he understands that they
1:31:36
run out of money and they didn't weren't
1:31:38
gonna keep this thing going I don't
1:31:40
believe that's what happened
1:31:41
what happened at the point that is the
1:31:44
point where el Sharpton became an
1:31:46
informant for the FBI
1:31:48
hmm because if you look into el Sharpton
1:31:51
FBI informant he became an informant in
1:31:54
83 which was right after this event I
1:31:56
think the FBI went in there to trying to
1:31:59
you know bust these other guys looting
1:32:02
Don King they found al Sharpton like
1:32:04
what a what a Jim they found el Sharpton
1:32:08
who was very well-connected I guess and
1:32:10
they used him and in fact it was Al
1:32:13
Sharpton who was responsible for
1:32:15
bringing down the Jena vase a gang
1:32:18
and I'm wondering why he's still alive
1:32:21
and number two what's he doing at MSNBC
1:32:24
still has a weekend show there how did
1:32:27
he get that job was at the FBI that said
1:32:29
we should play some so you think he has
1:32:31
clearance no I'll bet he does
1:32:37
interest something very suspicious about
1:32:39
that guy I like I like this
1:32:43
I thought you get a kick out of that one
1:32:45
yeah now this is on YouTube this is some
1:32:49
some just some dude yeah yeah you can
1:32:52
find it he doesn't have a broadcast deal
1:32:54
not that I know of sign him up
1:32:57
now I got a cup I got three other two
1:32:59
things one is about the corruption in
1:33:01
France s he goes on just clip to about
1:33:04
the corruption and I'm not gonna buy
1:33:05
don't necessary want to play it about
1:33:07
the FBI sis is more corrupt now than it
1:33:09
ever that's all we have done on Sharpton
1:33:12
yeah that's all it was just been passing
1:33:15
is those of matter of fact he was just a
1:33:16
man let's just all remember no real con
1:33:20
free just remember there's no real
1:33:22
conflict I got one as you talked about
1:33:25
the Kennedy election being done by the
1:33:28
mob and how they mob assassinated can
1:33:30
yes yes yes let's listen not the CIA the
1:33:34
mob that's what he says
1:33:36
before processes should that be a very
1:33:37
interesting person to be talking he goes
1:33:39
back to the days of Luciano and Costello
1:33:41
gosh Italy betray about that what he's
1:33:45
talking about his dad okay on because he
1:33:46
was younger than but he knew Capone came
1:33:48
out of New York so he know right on it
1:33:50
stuck with absolute well he knew him I'm
1:33:52
not saying I don't know what he exactly
1:33:53
yeah did but he knew him I asked my dad
1:33:56
I tell you this
1:33:57
my dad was he got so much publicity in
1:34:00
his 60s now he wasn't the main guy
1:34:02
around okay there was a lot of guys
1:34:03
doing Columbo everybody was around but
1:34:06
for some reason they targeted my dad and
1:34:08
I got to tell you this story stop stop
1:34:12
is this clip one
1:34:15
I'm sorry I thought you were jumping
1:34:17
ahead no it's not no I would the kennedy
1:34:19
election that's what we're talking about
1:34:20
an assassination clip oh I see what I
1:34:23
did wrong okay apologies I take all of
1:34:26
that back when the Kennedys were coming
1:34:28
up his father was not the most straight
1:34:30
you know he was a blue you know he
1:34:31
joseph kennedy who was a big part of the
1:34:33
market manipulation I think when
1:34:35
Roosevelt hired him to bring him in and
1:34:37
say listen what do we need to do here
1:34:38
and they they came out with
1:34:39
fingerprinting for licensing the guy
1:34:41
came out with SDC so it was very much
1:34:42
involved in knowing how to manipulate
1:34:44
the marketplace he was involved with the
1:34:46
mob based on some of the stories you
1:34:47
read about strong personality so they
1:34:50
you read and say well the mob helped
1:34:52
Kennedy get elected I don't know that
1:34:55
I'm asking you so my first question is
1:34:56
is the answer to that yes and to once
1:34:59
Kennedy got elected the follow-up is
1:35:01
it's been said that once he got elected
1:35:05
they try to distance themselves from the
1:35:08
mob to to look like they were good so
1:35:10
nothing would happen the mob got upset
1:35:12
about it and when they got upset about
1:35:13
it because they couldn't fulfill their
1:35:15
commitments they made to the map the mob
1:35:16
said we got to do something about it and
1:35:17
they went about doing what they did to
1:35:20
hire who they hire to shoot him and then
1:35:22
etc when he walked off the mob killed
1:35:25
him now this is some of the stories
1:35:26
obviously a lot of this is conspiracy
1:35:27
but one of the best conspiracies to read
1:35:30
about is Kennedy people are so
1:35:31
fascinated by having said that what do
1:35:34
you know about the JFK situation there
1:35:36
well understand my father is through
1:35:39
that whole era and many of the guys that
1:35:41
I knew or through that whole area so all
1:35:43
I ever heard and that I know to be true
1:35:46
okay and there's no upside in me saying
1:35:49
this I'm not writing a book about it
1:35:50
nothing but there's no question that Joe
1:35:54
Kennedy was involved or he was a
1:35:55
bootlegger you're not gonna know cause
1:35:57
no question okay and I know for a fact
1:35:59
that somebody wanted to kill Joe Kennedy
1:36:03
during those times because I heard that
1:36:06
he was robbing money wasn't doing the
1:36:08
right thing and his life was spared
1:36:10
this is 40s this is those in the 40s 50s
1:36:14
during that Iran he's a bootlegger
1:36:17
you're not a bootlegger unless you're
1:36:18
dealing with us guys that's it okay no
1:36:21
question also okay that threw his father
1:36:24
John Kennedy was we wanted him in the
1:36:27
White House and he was a connection
1:36:29
far as we were concerned so yes through
1:36:31
Chicago through Louisiana he was they
1:36:35
did help him get elected they did help
1:36:37
I'm sure like the Union votes and sorry
1:36:39
about this I know this for a fact
1:36:41
okay guy and now the government's never
1:36:44
gonna want anybody to know this they're
1:36:45
gonna call me a liar and all that kind
1:36:47
of stuff but that's the truth Patrick
1:36:49
and as far as the assassination I mean
1:36:53
come on the Jack Ruby come out of
1:36:54
nowhere I mean he had all of a sudden
1:36:57
these mob ties didn't mean anything if
1:36:58
you had mob ties with me they would want
1:37:01
to say it all over the world
1:37:02
oh yeah you connected with the mob what
1:37:03
was in Ruby who was connected with the
1:37:05
mob not as saying he wasn't you know
1:37:06
they never want it to be known that the
1:37:10
mob had a hand in that assassination
1:37:13
because it makes him look horrible
1:37:14
government doesn't want anybody know
1:37:15
that but I mean I've heard that
1:37:17
consistently throughout my my whole
1:37:20
tenure in that life all the time you
1:37:23
know Giancana and Chicago and and so
1:37:25
when he got killed you're saying the
1:37:26
assassination is linked back to the mob
1:37:28
yes now again it's been said it's not
1:37:32
true he's a liar I have no upside in
1:37:35
saying this other than this is what I
1:37:37
know to be true throughout my whole time
1:37:38
in that life I heard it for my father I
1:37:40
heard it from everybody that I know that
1:37:42
was in that era I was there I was
1:37:44
younger obviously I mean I wasn't coming
1:37:46
up at that time but but it was shortly
1:37:48
after I mean I began I got recruited in
1:37:50
the 70s it was a couple of years after
1:37:52
he was killed so that story was fresh
1:37:55
now forget about it
1:37:58
now if he has another size I don't have
1:38:00
everything he has he knows where hafez
1:38:02
buried he has he knows where hafez
1:38:03
he isn't he buried in the Meadowlands in
1:38:05
New Jersey yes is that's definitely not
1:38:07
it Jersey yes is that's definitely not
1:38:08
and where'd he finally he kind of would
1:38:10
insane what the details but what you
1:38:12
could deconstruct it and it it sounds as
1:38:15
if Hoffa was given some cement boots and
1:38:18
dropped off in the middle of the
1:38:20
Atlantic Ocean
1:38:21
Oh des wrecker yeah I pushed in the
1:38:24
blood des wrecker yeah I pushed in the
1:38:25
Oh God maybe they pushed him off a boat
1:38:31
but it was a plane nice okay now the
1:38:33
last one is that is the one of he's
1:38:35
talking about his dad again and this
1:38:37
story is the real and he even kind of
1:38:40
hints that his dad was kind of full of
1:38:41
shit with his stories but he kind of
1:38:44
says this story sounds kind of true
1:38:47
because his dad was really targeted by
1:38:51
the justice department over a lot of
1:38:53
these other mobsters right and he for
1:38:58
all these years he could never figure
1:38:59
out why and so this story which is clip
1:39:02
three comes out before processes should
1:39:05
that be a very interesting person to be
1:39:06
talking he goes back to the days of
1:39:08
Luciano and Costello God he'll even tell
1:39:11
you about Capone because he was younger
1:39:12
than but he knew Capone came out of New
1:39:14
York so he's right on it stuck with
1:39:16
absolute well he knew him I'm not saying
1:39:18
I don't know what he exactly yea did but
1:39:20
he knew him I asked my dad I'd say it is
1:39:22
my dad was he who got so much publicity
1:39:25
in his sixties now he wasn't the main
1:39:27
guy around okay there was a lot of guys
1:39:29
don't come but everybody was around but
1:39:31
for some reason they targeted my dad and
1:39:33
I gotta tell you this story so I went to
1:39:36
one time I said dad why are you why he
1:39:39
was a lot of guys around why did they
1:39:41
pick you he said my mom has passed away
1:39:44
five years ago and he said I never
1:39:46
wanted to tell you this I don't want to
1:39:47
disrespect your mom but now that your
1:39:49
mom has passed away I'm gonna tell you I
1:39:51
said what he said I was dating Marilyn
1:39:54
Monroe Kennedy fell in love with a Bobby
1:39:58
Kennedy he was the Attorney General at
1:40:00
the time she made him understand that
1:40:03
she was in love with my father
1:40:04
from that point on Robert Kennedy
1:40:07
targeted my dad because of the Maryland
1:40:09
Rolle went after him like crazy now
1:40:12
sometimes my dad oh you know I'm
1:40:14
wondering okay dad you turning me but it
1:40:16
made sense I said dad you tell me he
1:40:19
says i dad was with Marilyn Monroe yeah
1:40:22
and he got a little bit more graphic
1:40:23
when he told me this I'm not gonna
1:40:25
repeat it here but but yeah and then you
1:40:28
know I'm starting to I said where did
1:40:29
you meet her now I start questioning a
1:40:31
me he says I I met her at the Stork Club
1:40:34
that was the hot place back yeah right
1:40:36
Costello had a piece of it and I said
1:40:38
okay tell me how it happened he told me
1:40:40
the whole setup and everything else and
1:40:42
you know because Hoover wasn't targeting
1:40:44
mob guys back then
1:40:45
that's right was a friend because you
1:40:47
had information on him on that
1:40:48
information he was bisexual you know he
1:40:50
got caught and blah blah blah so he
1:40:52
never went after guys because they held
1:40:53
it over his chest that there is no mob
1:40:55
is what he said there is not Yeah right
1:40:57
but Kennedy was a different story and he
1:41:00
targeted my dad for that reason you know
1:41:02
what sometimes I think my dad but I
1:41:04
believe this one I absolutely believe it
1:41:07
because I put it two together I did my
1:41:09
little research it was true wow this is
1:41:11
this is on my YouTube that's pretty good
1:41:14
yeah I like that
1:41:18
and what's this what's this thing he
1:41:20
wanted to play this last clip or not
1:41:23
it's a lightweight clip compared to the
1:41:25
other three but yeah play it so let me
1:41:27
ask you as dirty as politics was back
1:41:28
then how dirty is it today
1:41:30
more or less Patrick I have never and
1:41:33
now understand something yeah did I see
1:41:36
them when we were on the street we
1:41:38
understood the government a lot of times
1:41:40
crossed the lines with us we got it but
1:41:43
you know what we were criminals so in a
1:41:45
way can you justify it I don't think so
1:41:47
I don't think the government is ever
1:41:49
supposed to act illegally okay they're
1:41:51
supposed to abide by the law we were
1:41:53
criminals we broke the law but that's
1:41:54
supposed to use the laws effectively and
1:41:57
properly to get anybody that's my
1:41:59
feeling but you know what all right we
1:42:01
were criminals and they cross the line
1:42:03
every once in a while okay I have never
1:42:05
in my lifetime seen the level of
1:42:08
corruption that is going on today in the
1:42:11
political come Patrick I could you know
1:42:15
more today than before hunter absolutely
1:42:17
and at a level that I can't believe I
1:42:19
mean look I've experienced
1:42:22
you understand I've been indicted five
1:42:24
times I've had two federal racketeering
1:42:26
cases I've had two state racketeering
1:42:29
cases I I've been in front of the
1:42:32
Supreme Court on constitutional issues
1:42:34
in my dad's case I've been in front of
1:42:35
the appellate court so many times I've
1:42:37
been more grand juries than you can
1:42:38
imagine more grand juries than you can
1:42:39
this has been my life I understand it I
1:42:41
know the law and I am Telling You I've
1:42:44
never seen the law violated by people in
1:42:47
power like I'm seeing now it's to a
1:42:49
point where I can't even watch it
1:42:50
anymore it's it's terrible because it's
1:42:53
bad for all of America look I cannot let
1:42:57
the gangster gangster says is bad man
1:43:01
over there who authorities cross the
1:43:04
lines of what's legally correct we can't
1:43:08
let them do that because it's a threat
1:43:09
to everyone at that point in time and
1:43:12
I'm not being biased I have many friends
1:43:14
in law enforcement
1:43:15
many French and they were honest kondal
1:43:17
tell you straight out we don't approve
1:43:18
of what's going on retired FBI agents
1:43:21
that I know now it's sickened what they
1:43:22
see now Wow I mean come on this is I
1:43:24
mean look I mean even call me what's
1:43:26
going on at his book tour I mean did the
1:43:29
things that he's saying that it coming
1:43:31
out of his mouth it's an embarrassment
1:43:32
to the FBI in my opinion because there's
1:43:35
a lot of hard-working you know honest
1:43:38
legitimate agents that do that job and a
1:43:41
guy like this in my opinion is tainting
1:43:43
everything else I mean it's terrible did
1:43:45
he work for the feds as well no that's
1:43:49
really John bend over well deserved
1:43:53
oh just lump it all into one I like it I
1:43:58
think that was a good collection I got
1:44:01
very good that I agree oh man I hope
1:44:03
they don't I mean he said something bad
1:44:05
about Al Sharpton he'll probably get
1:44:06
purged from the platform this is a bad
1:44:10
idea from the platform this is a bad
1:44:11
to be talked don't put that on your
1:44:13
platform all right let's shift gears for
1:44:16
a second and just some light some light
1:44:18
stuff local story local story I told you
1:44:20
that that this happened and I have some
1:44:23
proof that this happened and I have some
1:44:25
Austin Texas now gone so crazy that in
1:44:29
these City Council meetings we no longer
1:44:30
clap we snap our fingers like beatniks
1:44:33
man like beatniks cuz this really haters
1:44:36
hey you stop I'm gonna tell you
1:44:39
something this is bullcrap
1:44:41
what is there's no way that what you're
1:44:44
saying cuz you told me this already we
1:44:47
usually don't do stuff on the show where
1:44:49
you talked about for I am not buying it
1:44:52
if I'm gonna buy it did I gotta bring
1:44:54
the bongos out okay so let's do this I
1:44:57
have two clips I have one from the
1:44:59
incident that I was told about a hand I
1:45:03
have the second one is from just two
1:45:06
nights ago and I'll explain that as well
1:45:08
so you can then sort of listen first cuz
1:45:12
it's at the very end alright so don't
1:45:15
play your bongos because you a miss it
1:45:18
because it's because the everyone's
1:45:19
talking is just short it's short short
1:45:21
short briefer this is the diversity
1:45:25
Council bri