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media assassination episode 61
this is
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[Music] assassination episode
61 this is
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where it turns out that Trump
is not the
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leader of the free world I'm
John see
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Devoy you can't do that it was
perfect
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I'm John C Dvorak don't go
breaking the
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whole thing that you're the
true leader
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of the free world we get it are
they'd
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lock on your door already yeah
they're
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coming in they're coming to get
me yo
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hey I'm gonna take me away
uh-huh uh-huh
0:54
Hey who was that again that was
the
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coming to take me away hee hee
ha ha ho
0:58
ho to the funny farm
1:00
was that is beautiful all the
time who
1:03
was that Bonzo Dog doo-dah baby
no no
1:07
it's on the tip of my tongue
it's uh oh
1:11
hey hey huh it's like okay in
the chat
1:17
room we'll know well we don't
have a
1:18
chat room we have a troll root
old room
1:21
dr. Dement roll room we'll know
it was
1:24
Napoleon about Napoleon
something or
1:26
other that's right Napoleon
okay why
1:30
even do that when we have
important
1:32
things to discuss John I need
you to
1:33
look at the Trump rotation today
1:36
the Trump rotation have it in
front of
1:37
me no I cannot recall do we
have dog
1:42
hater on the list nope I'm sure
of it
1:45
dog hater should be added to
the list
1:48
and I think I can prove it
1:49
okay hold on a second let me
write it
1:51
get a pen yeah you do need to
write this
1:53
down that's interesting we
should have
1:57
caught this one much earlier
but there
1:59
is an issue with dogs as you
know the
2:01
president likes to call people
dog for
2:03
numbers he does Brian Williams
felt it
2:06
was time to investigate if the
president
2:09
hates dogs is this president
really
2:11
physically not like dogs
2:14
that's right Brian he's
actually the
2:16
first president in more than a
hundred
2:18
years who's not had a dog as a
pet in
2:21
the White House he has looked
with a dog
2:23
before when he first got
married to his
2:24
first wife Ivana she brought
with her a
2:27
poodle he resisted the dog he
didn't
2:30
want to have anything to do
with the
2:31
poodle but she said the poodles
coming
2:33
along he's coming along turns
out chappy
2:35
didn't like Trump very much
because
2:37
whenever Trump would come near
Ivana's
2:39
closet chappy would bark at him
2:40
territorial lady Ivana writes
about this
2:43
in her memoir that came out a
few months
2:44
ago we launched an extensive
web search
2:47
that took us at least a few
minutes and
2:49
we could only find one don't
you love
2:52
that I mean I know he's making
fun of
2:53
himself but it's just kind of
it's so
2:55
beautiful to hear him say we
did some
2:57
extensive research a two-minute
Webster
2:59
Tamar that came out a few
months ago we
3:01
launched an extensive web
search that
3:03
took us at least a few minutes
and we
3:05
could only find one photo
extant in all
3:08
the land of Donald Trump for
the daus
3:10
but it's deadly serious what he
does
3:12
with that word using it as an
attack
3:16
he's dehumanizing his enemies
that's the
3:18
goal there and there's a long
history
3:20
actually of authoritarian
leaders who've
3:23
used these ANA animalistic
slurs as
3:26
insults to dehumanize
individuals or
3:28
groups of people we remember in
during
3:31
the Holocaust the Nazis would
call there
3:35
we go hey good good work it
only took
3:38
him a minute to get to Hitler
really
3:41
fast now they get it down now
this is
3:43
just a lead-in to the real
accusations
3:46
about Trump misusing dogs not
just
3:50
hating them in general and I
don't know
3:52
for pootle his dog by the way
but
3:56
comparing people he hates to
dogs al
3:59
Sharpton has details jokey-joke
like a
4:04
dog it shoked like a dog jumped
like a
4:06
dog we've seen you employed
people
4:09
expect unwavering loyalty teach
them
4:12
tricks and give them treats for
job well
4:15
done and give them treats for
job well
4:16
like oh six figures worth the
hush money
4:19
to silence an alleged affair
for example
4:22
but the moment they deviate
4:24
from their good behavior and
failed to
4:28
fetch you publicly condemned
them or
4:31
twitter with animalistic slurs
steve
4:35
Bannon was quote jumped like a
dog you
4:38
tweeted after he was fired
Sally Yates
4:41
you said she choked like a dog
during US
4:44
Senate testimony on the rush
4:46
investigation and now amarosa
that
4:50
doesn't include all those
outside your
4:53
orbit you hit with a canine
cut-down
4:56
like when you refer to black
NFL players
4:59
as sons of well female dogs but
I think
5:04
you've might have learned a
lesson this
5:06
week and wait for John pay
attention
5:08
sometimes the dog bites back
with a book
5:12
deal and while we're talking
about
5:14
female canines if you know what
they say
5:17
about payback it's a real well
you I'm
5:21
sure you know the word I'm
thinking of
5:23
so in the words of my late
friend Aretha
5:27
Franklin and show some our ESP
ICT
5:37
[Applause] and show some our
ESP ICT
5:46
MSNBC everybody
5:47
hitman al sharpton spells
respect RESP
5:52
eyes of the day I mean wanna
make it
5:59
with nothing to top that clip
show some
6:07
RESP ICT from this morning show
my
6:12
everything blew up here around
quarter
6:15
to 11:00
6:16
everyone's sending me this clip
thank
6:18
you by the way everybody this
whole
6:28
rigmarole is obviously written
form so
6:30
smooth as silk got a lot of
one-liners a
6:33
lot of good material and then he
6:34
finishes his putt he punches
his punches
6:37
out with that unbelievable what
an
6:41
incompetent bonehead
6:43
why does MSNBC pay this guy so
much
6:47
money to be on that you know
she's good
6:50
no I know let me tell you
there's a he's
6:54
been in the news quite a bit
actually
6:55
and I think it's what you fold
one as we
7:00
know he's a hitman we learned
this on
7:04
the last show so you don't mess
with the
7:06
Hitman in fact this was haunt
this was
7:08
on MSNBC the last step before
witness
7:10
protection is always a visit
with
7:12
Reverend Al uh-huh that's right
Plus
7:14
that before witness protection
is always
7:16
a visit Ruth with Reverend Al
now
7:19
Reverend Al having worked for
the FBI
7:21
being an informant guess what
he has
7:24
since 83 what does he have
clearance
7:29
this is why al is still around
this is
7:33
this without us really
realizing it
7:37
the swamp has been exposed at
least a
7:39
big big scummy pond part of it
which is
7:43
this clearances business oh yeah
7:46
and this is great let me just
let me
7:51
just play this sharpen bit so
we get
7:53
into it is what makes it so
scary to me
7:58
because that effect I'm saying
I can't
8:01
afford environment intelligence
if I
8:04
want to do something later in
my career
8:06
I can't afford to speak my mind
even in
8:10
private cause I could have this
against
8:12
me and that is where we're
going toward
8:15
a almost totalitarian type of
state
8:19
walking slowly there but headed
that way
8:22
when people are afraid for
political
8:26
reasons to exercise their
freedom of
8:28
speech nada that is the threat
here to
8:31
me I think that is a valid
threat and
8:34
from intelligence perspective
and
8:36
especially at the CIA
professional
8:38
outside of their work they
should do
8:40
that publicly when they have
left the
8:42
agency as I have talked about
their own
8:46
opinions and in quite often
informed
8:49
opinions and I think that
adding to the
8:51
public debate is what is so
important so
8:54
we were half right or at least
partially
8:56
right were half right or at
least partially
8:56
that taking away someone's to
clear the
8:59
security clearance in
Washington DC is
9:03
extremely funny because a
million and a
9:06
half people have top-secret
clearance
9:08
already almost five million
have some
9:11
sort of clearance across the
USA so when
9:14
you don't have clearance you
are truly
9:15
in DC a loser and wait so you
know I've
9:21
dealt I think I've told the
story many
9:22
times there were some distant
nice in
9:26
the family we're all sitting
around big
9:27
family reunion she's talking so
I asked
9:29
or something says yeah I can't
talk to
9:31
you about that because you have
no
9:32
clearance this is how it works
you got a
9:34
spy job you get clearance you
can't talk
9:37
to people that's what it is now
all of a
9:40
sudden is like bid my First
Amendment
9:42
right has been taken away
because I
9:44
don't have any clearance you
still can't
9:45
talk to people no the problem
is you're
9:48
not as valuable anymore you
9:50
zero value to MSNBC if you're
John
9:53
Brennan and you don't have
security
9:55
clearance you have no value and
they are
9:57
freaking out over this the
people who
10:00
are freaking out the loudest
clearly
10:02
have the most business to lose
here's a
10:05
background or a little m5m
freaked out
10:08
over this whole ordeal this is a
10:10
dictatorial exercise of power
that
10:14
should frighten and call on all
10:17
Republicans to say mr.
president you
10:20
cannot do this you are trying
to inhibit
10:22
the free speech people who may
be in
10:25
opposition we have to make sure
10:29
everybody's clear on one thing
as we
10:31
were doing this the free speech
is not
10:35
impinge in any way by security
clearance
10:38
removal you have all a free
speech in
10:40
the world did you associate the
two
10:43
which is that what you're
trying to do
10:44
is an old crap because you do
not do
10:48
your free speech your enjoyment
of free
10:51
speech for the First Amendment
rights
10:52
has not changed at all
10:57
so don't you know these guys
would keep
10:59
doing this it's all my they're
impinging
11:01
on my fries my rights of free
speech no
11:03
they're not they're taking your
security
11:04
clearance away usually for what
I would
11:06
call insubordination yeah okay
let's go
11:09
back sorry yeah and just
explain why
11:12
this is not taking away their
free
11:14
speech because the it because
it's
11:17
gotten security clearance has
nothing to
11:19
do with free speech they can
talk all
11:22
they want in fact they could
probably
11:24
talk even more but even though
I think
11:25
not in terms of what they can
say in
11:28
fact their security clearance
seems to
11:30
me to impinge for each yes
exactly thank
11:33
you that's exactly what security
11:35
clearances do means you can't
talk about
11:37
this that is the literal
definition of
11:39
restriction of free speech but
it's not
11:42
that it's an agreement yeah but
okay
11:46
again all of these reasons that
they're
11:49
throwing up and just a little I
believe
11:53
they're just yeah they are
throwing up
11:54
it's because their livelihood
has been
11:56
threatened and this has been
exposed in
11:58
the coming up with all kinds of
reasons
12:01
to say that this is
unconstitutional and
12:04
can't happen and we need laws
to stop
12:06
the president from doing this
in the
12:07
meantime president from doing
this in the
12:08
every douche knuckle we see on
12:10
television has security
clearance
12:13
including many of the
presenters al
12:16
Sharpton Anderson Cooper we
know that
12:19
for sure so to remove this
moves their
12:22
livelihood and to me it's like
what
12:25
actually doesn't remove their
livelihood
12:27
in DC media circles it sure
does well to
12:32
have no value there have no
value it
12:35
should be yeah I should be
seeing a gap
12:40
for a news presenter who is
objective
12:42
and is Jay's reporting on the
news I
12:44
shouldn't be watching some
spook trying
12:47
to trick me what do you what do
you
12:49
think sources are sources are
people
12:51
with clearance that's what this
is all
12:54
about more m5m freak out the
free speech
12:57
of people who may be in
opposition to
13:00
you to use this kind of
punishment to
13:04
kill speech is a violation of
the First
13:07
Amendment I mean this is a
strike
13:09
move towards authoritarianism
you know
13:11
this is what dictators do they
shut down
13:13
the press and shut down dissent
they
13:15
jail their opponents or in this
case
13:17
they steal their security
clearance was
13:21
a few authoritarian act from an
13:23
intemperate president who
wanted to
13:25
punish one of his critics
nothing more
13:27
nothing less what I gotta throw
this one
13:45
in just secured you know a guy
I'm
13:50
leading up to that I know
exactly what I
13:52
got the clip already lined up
okay good
13:54
yeah of course that's my final
one
13:56
because it's the best one ever
but first
14:00
I think is the best one ever or
it's at
14:04
least up-to-date will be will
see more
14:07
first we need to go to NPR the
serious
14:09
news outfit who still have some
respect
14:11
somewhere my favorite show NPR
this week
14:16
which always has that jamoke in
there
14:18
you know what's his name again
what
14:20
doesn't matter
14:20
check BD is a Redux of the
Richard Nixon
14:24
enemies list oh it's an enemies
list
14:27
well as John Dean who was one
of the
14:31
people involved and putting
together the
14:33
enemies list for President
Nixon as he
14:37
said last night on CNN this is
a step
14:39
beyond the enemies list
14:41
he said President Nixon didn't
do
14:43
anything based on the enemies
list it
14:46
was it was out there as a sort
of target
14:48
of opportunity and of
presidential peak
14:50
the president has acted on it
and as
14:53
John McLaughlin the former CIA
director
14:56
said yesterday we've seen this
show
14:58
before we've seen it in
authoritarian
15:01
regimes and petty dictatorships
where
15:05
leaders use the power of
government to
15:08
punish their political enemies
and of
15:11
course the great threat of the
trump
15:14
presidency is that that's how
we're
15:16
going to end up in a kind of
trumpian
15:19
authoritarian dictatorship
15:22
trumpian it's it's now it's
just a whole
15:24
new category like this is a
kind of
15:27
early warning early what that
is a
15:29
possibility the president this
is a
15:31
breaking of a norm goes well
beyond
15:34
anything that any president has
done
15:37
well yes because having your
credentials
15:42
certainly your security
credentials
15:44
which is I think it's just a
part of it
15:47
you leave and no one ever gets
to their
15:49
credentials revoked apparently
like hey
15:52
Paul man afford what do you
think that
15:53
he have security clearance he
may very
15:55
well have had it every lobbyist
and
15:58
what's what you do you you're in
15:59
government and then you're done
you go
16:01
out and you join a lobbying
firm but
16:02
that's where you could really
make your
16:03
money by influencing the
government this
16:06
is this is the definition of
the swamp
16:08
let's back up a couple of shows
when you
16:13
when you first exposed the fact
that or
16:18
surmised or I think
deconstructed
16:21
correctly the fact that Peter
struck and
16:25
his leases have made yeah we're
out to
16:30
they were part of a conspiracy
to
16:32
overthrow the government yes
and of
16:35
course he was just fired on on
Monday
16:37
and gone for good and he'll
probably
16:40
have trouble getting work in the
16:42
government again they should
have his
16:43
security clearance pulled and
and the
16:46
article that was nobody you
know we talk
16:49
about all these guys bitching
and
16:50
moaning but we don't talk about
one of
16:51
the old hacks of the CIA that
is pretty
16:55
objective never like Trump
doesn't like
16:57
Trump but he ray mcgovern which
i'll it
17:00
was article in the last
newsletter and
17:02
people should click on that and
read
17:04
this article but govern says
that
17:06
Brennan was a conspirator
17:10
a ringleader of the number of
CIA people
17:14
that who was who was Ray
McGovern again
17:16
Ray McGovern xanex CIA analyst
we've had
17:20
him do he had clips from him
over the
17:22
years quite a few actually he's
an
17:25
ex-cia analyst and pretty much
a on the
17:29
side of you know he sees a
shadow
17:31
government for what it is and
then
17:32
there's a lot of in views the
government
17:36
is a correct corrupt mechanism
in
17:39
different ways but this person
he
17:40
doesn't like Trump but he
thinks that
17:43
this all has to do with a
Brennan being
17:46
a conspirator and he should
have had his
17:50
clearance pulled according to
McGovern
17:53
and the way I see it since that
McGovern
17:55
wrote that piece these guys who
have
17:58
signed at people who are active
CIA
18:01
members who have signed a
petition that
18:03
Mike Morell yes
18:06
or get orchestrated
18:09
should all have their
clearances pulled
18:11
and if anybody's working for
the agency
18:13
I think they should all be
fired yes
18:16
they're all there they're all
talking
18:20
about traitorous actions this is
18:22
insubordination of the highest
order if
18:24
you're actually working
18:25
I think it's insubordination on
all
18:27
levels and that's kind of what
18:29
McGovern's thinking I think and
what and
18:31
those guys who signed off on
morels
18:34
document I think there's there
also
18:37
should be probably that Gomez
being
18:39
stupid is the dumbest thing to
do just
18:43
lay low a cabal offense I agree
well the
18:47
you know the media's problem
the m5m on
18:51
all sides I would say if their
problem
18:54
is that their official spokes
holes
18:56
we've been tracking them since
the first
18:58
day the show began here's the
former
19:00
Admiral of this or of that a
CIA guy
19:02
this all X and of course it's
all coming
19:04
from from the pickle factory
and they're
19:05
all read in that's the problem
19:08
they can't be read into the
official
19:11
story from well let's just call
it the
19:13
deep state to make it easy
that's the
19:15
problem hey man I got some
bullshit that
19:18
we're pushing out there here it
is you
19:20
know that no longer can be said
19:22
technically yeah I agree with
that now I
19:25
do have one clip that you don't
have I'm
19:27
sure which is another one of
these
19:29
roundup clips from CBS trying
to be
19:33
objective but curiously they
can't be
19:35
that objective because they keep
19:36
bringing in Brennan who works
for NBC as
19:40
their analyst you know they
don't have
19:42
their own guy here or a little
morality
19:46
in this clip now there are
plans to
19:48
cancel the clearances for other
19:51
officials the president is
facing
19:52
mounting criticism from the
intelligence
19:54
community for this
unprecedented action
19:57
after Brennan's clearance was
revoked
19:59
this week more than a dozen
high-ranking
20:01
former intelligence officials
have come
20:03
to his defense mr. Trump is
spending the
20:05
weekend at his New Jersey golf
course
20:07
Errol Barnett is traveling with
the
20:09
president harreld good morning
good
20:10
morning the White House has
drafted
20:13
additional documents revoking
the
20:15
security clearances of current
and for
20:18
intelligence officials this is
according
20:20
to the Washington Post and
apparently
20:22
President Trump is ready to
sign them
20:25
and this comes as more than 70
former
20:27
intelligence officials go
public with
20:29
their displeasure with the
commander in
20:31
chief the fact that he's using a
20:34
security clearance of a former
CIA
20:37
director as a pawn in his public
20:41
relations strategy I think is
just so
20:44
reflective of somebody who
quite frankly
20:47
don't want to use this term
maybe but
20:49
he's drunk on power flow CIA
director
20:51
John Brennan speaking out
against
20:53
President Trump for revoking his
20:55
security clearance retaliation
he says
20:58
for criticism of the
president's policy
21:00
I mean seriously who's drunk on
power if
21:02
you're that pissed off about
you know
21:04
security clearance that I guess
does it
21:07
make any difference or not but
you can't
21:09
be the ex CIA director and come
out and
21:11
after a meeting with Putin say
that the
21:14
president's a traitor
21:17
they I didn't say that he said
21:18
treasonous action treasonous
act but it
21:22
comes down to the same poking
his
21:23
security clearance retaliation
he says
21:26
for criticism of the president's
21:28
policies and character like
this tweet
21:31
from July when Brennan called
Trump's
21:33
performance at a press
conference with
21:35
Russian leader Vladimir Putin
quote
21:37
nothing short of treasonous I
think this
21:40
is just another example of mr.
Trump
21:42
trying to frighten intimidate
others but
21:45
I can tell you these are not
the type
21:46
people are going to be bullied
or
21:48
intimidated by someone of the
likes of
21:50
mr. Trump speaking to reporters
while
21:55
live in the White House Friday
President
21:57
Trump was asked if a current
Department
21:59
of Justice official should lose
his
22:01
clearance as some conservatives
are
22:03
suggesting in protest 15 former
top
22:10
intelligence officials from both
22:12
Democratic and Republican
22:13
administrations went on the
record with
22:16
their displeasure at the
president's
22:18
actions saying mr. Trump's
motives have
22:21
quote everything to do with an
attempt
22:22
to stifle free speech they are
joined by
22:25
60 lower ranking former CIA
officers who
22:29
also signed a letter supporting
Brennan
22:31
and warning that mr. Trump is
22:33
threatening the security of the
country
22:35
Brennan was on Rachel's show
for about
22:39
an hour I think I didn't have
time to
22:41
listen to it all but I did and
I don't
22:42
have a clip I did read that he
back
22:46
pedaled on the yeah it was
obvious what
22:49
I meant you know I didn't
really mean it
22:50
literally that kind of stuff
22:52
oh no he backpedal on the
treason thing
22:54
yeah yeah yeah I know
22:56
Oh would someone do well
because there's
22:58
a problem why would he do that
23:00
this guy's brazenly arrogant
here's
23:04
something this guy this is the
guy that
23:07
everyone believes to be a
Muslim he
23:10
swore his but he just he
converted while
23:15
in Saudi Arabia at the station
there
23:17
these station chief and you
know a lot
23:20
there's also a lot of Records
is really
23:23
didn't do a lot of very good
job in this
23:25
job it seems but he became a
Muslim if
23:27
he's gonna become a Muslim in
Saudi
23:28
Arabia's gonna become a
Wahhabist
23:30
Salafist uh and so you go to
Snopes and
23:34
look this up and they say
unverified
23:36
they can't say yes they can't
say true
23:38
or false I'm I've started
thinking about
23:39
this has anybody just on NBC
just has
23:44
them asked him why would they
do that it
23:48
is it that hard to do can you
say like
23:50
oh we can't do it because it's
like a
23:52
violation of some moral moral
love edict
23:56
I mean apparently we've been
out of the
23:58
loop on this yes apparently
this is a
24:01
huge issue in in Washington DC
and I
24:04
think it's pretty obvious why
now yeah
24:07
because he's a Wahhabist Muslim
and he's
24:10
getting indeed this guy is a
24:12
troublemaker now to Phil Mudd
former CIA
24:17
operative I think they call him
on CNN
24:20
he's the CNN guy and Phil mud
orchid CIA
24:23
still has his clearances
apparently and
24:27
this comes up in a conversation
this was
24:31
Jim sciutto actually with Paris
what's
24:35
the guy's name there's Dan and
I thinks
24:37
it's les yeah
24:38
and black is a black
conservative yeah
24:41
and he calls it right off the
bat and
24:42
says hey man this is kind of
swampy that
24:44
you know you leave you got your
24:45
credentials you can go work for
24:47
consulting companies that which
are
24:49
numerous you can work for a
lobbyist all
24:52
kinds of places you can go and
work with
24:53
your security clearance
including Phil
24:57
Mudd is working on CNN hey no
one's ever
25:00
heard of Phil Mudd there's no
real
25:01
background but he's on CNN so
we know
25:03
who he is why is NCM because he
has
25:05
clearance and when this comes
up the
25:08
video is even better than the
audio he
25:10
you can see his head actually
expand a
25:13
little bit he's he's so angry
I'm
25:16
surprised didn't have a stroke
he's a
25:19
candidate and he just he
explodes on
25:23
this and then lies by Elton who
lies by
25:29
deflecting I would say he said
I never
25:32
get paid for consulting with the
25:34
government and Paris keep
saying ah oh
25:35
man when you go to consulting
companies
25:37
what pair should have said is
are you
25:38
not being paid right here right
now but
25:40
I don't know why I didn't do
that
25:41
probably because Paris is being
paid
25:44
it's all a big swarmy messy
ugly swamp
25:49
and also if if you do consult
for the
25:53
government there is at fifty
five
25:55
thousand dollars stipend
25:56
he may have refused that I
don't know
25:58
but everyone kind gets that
offered what
26:01
doubt it I doubt it but what is
lied
26:03
well here is a lot of these
people that
26:06
had these security clearances
and this
26:08
is the secret in the swampy
washington d
26:10
c-- they have them and they
keep them
26:12
because it's profitable for
them after
26:15
they leave government because
if you
26:16
have a security clearance
especially
26:17
high level security clearances
your
26:19
contracts and you're consulting
gift pay
26:21
you a lot more money because of
the
26:23
access that you have and i hope
the
26:24
president continues to do this
and I
26:26
hope he adds Omarosa to the
list because
26:28
if she has a clearance she to
because of
26:30
her actions should have it
revoked I
26:32
don't know if I put on morosa
in the
26:34
same category the seventy five
people
26:35
assign those letters but film
bud I
26:37
imagine you want to react
profitable
26:41
Paris when I am requested to
sit on an
26:44
advisory board let me ask you
one
26:46
question how much do you think
I'm paid
26:49
to do that at the request of
the US
26:50
government give me one answer
and you've
26:52
got ten seconds now that is how
the CIA
26:55
runs that when they were you in
the
26:57
Union when you are getting your
ass
26:58
handed to you in the CIA how
much I'll
27:07
give out ask you a question how
much are
27:09
you paid for your answer the
question
27:10
acting gig for for being a
contract with
27:14
the US government that pay mine
this is
27:17
the zero that's the enemy I'm
not
27:22
talking about your role with
the federal
27:24
government I'm talking about
your hey
27:28
Sultan and a contractor the
consulting
27:31
firms that they form and that
you all
27:32
get is because you get more
money than
27:34
having a consult before before
having
27:36
the security consulting
relationships
27:41
with the US government I'm not
feel
27:43
that's a good talking point I'm
not
27:44
talking about relationship with
the
27:46
government I'm talking about in
the
27:47
private sector when you have a
security
27:49
family you see relationships
with the
27:51
private sector that involve my
security
27:53
clearance sector that involve
my security
27:54
right now Phil Mudd you're on
CNN zero I
27:58
get well zero dollars from
consulting
28:00
companies that deal with the US
28:01
government are we clear
28:02
well I would be clear and
saying that
28:05
everybody in Washington DC
knows if you
28:07
don't want to be honest that's
on you
28:08
but if you have a security
clearance and
28:10
you keep it you get out couple
of things
28:21
telling the guy that get out
and by the
28:25
way the host right then and
there should
28:28
stop him okay I have the bit
where he
28:31
kind of gets in there but you
can't let
28:35
one of the guests yes you can
if he has
28:42
clearance in Washington female
great
28:45
here's the thing that's got me
there was
28:47
a little tidbit in there that
just like
28:49
the guy out of the blue why
would you do
28:52
this mud out of the blue says
who are
28:55
you talking about general
Hayden yes yes
28:58
yes because he apparently has
all kinds
29:02
of deals yeah you know what how
about
29:05
all the text TSA guys who who
set up the
29:08
scanner comes off come on in
and it's
29:12
hundreds of millions probably
topping
29:14
billion dollars by this point
since they
29:16
started with their l3 systems
come on
29:20
but we're gonna try and
obfuscate it and
29:23
the press who are so adamant
about their
29:27
rights and press freedom and
they need
29:30
to report on everything are
just keeping
29:32
silent they are not explaining
at all
29:35
how this works this is so right
easier
29:37
can I just finish it's 30
second let's
29:38
finish this no no I want you to
stop
29:40
that thought okay the press I
said
29:42
you're gonna get this done
don't worry
29:44
the press
29:48
in the bag for the CIA yes no
not just
29:51
CIA for all the intelligence but
29:53
Mockingbird is the main the
manslayer
29:56
CIA I mean the NSA doesn't even
come up
29:59
in the conversation the DIA
doesn't even
30:01
come up in the conversation the
the
30:03
press has been infiltrated by
the one
30:07
agency mostly there's no NSA
guys
30:10
working for the New York Times
maybe
30:12
there's one I doubt it right
and so
30:16
they're just you're just like
these guys
30:18
within the the whole structure
of the
30:21
mainstream media or just you
know
30:23
they're backing this big idiots
like
30:25
this mud character oh they need
it
30:28
because that is their
connection to the
30:32
messaging and you're right I
love how
30:34
you put that Mockingbird is the
poor is
30:36
that what you say is that it's
the
30:39
premier primary place yeah yeah
it's a
30:42
primary player
30:43
I like that Mockingbird is the
primary
30:45
player that sounds that's yes
exactly it
30:47
and for those of you who think
that's a
30:50
conspiracy theory you should
hook it up
30:52
from consulting companies that
deal with
30:54
US government are we clear
30:55
well I would be clear in saying
that
30:58
everybody in Washington DC
knows if you
31:00
don't want to be honest about
it that's
31:01
on you but if you have a
security
31:03
clearance and you keep it 25
years no
31:14
service this is what I get
about this
31:16
your voice is still here you
can still
31:18
do whatever you little ization
of the
31:21
intelligence community under
this
31:22
administration with the people
coming on
31:24
here every day tweeting and
talking
31:26
about this administration you
all have
31:28
made it about politicians like
the press
31:30
let's take a beat here for a
second I
31:31
feel like you have patience
because
31:33
because I know it's getting is
getting
31:34
personal here Phil I appreciate
your
31:36
patience come on appreciate your
31:42
patience because you know you
gotta suck
31:44
him off because all he's our
connection
31:47
to the to the information
shameful
31:50
shameful by the way I bet if I
took a
31:53
vote right now in our very own
trawl
31:54
room and I said who has some
form of
31:58
security clearance
32:00
let me see how many say yes
because I
32:02
know there are people have
security
32:04
clearance and it may not be top
secret
32:06
clearance but if you're a
contractor
32:07
there's dudes named Ben there's
all
32:09
kinda debts name Bernadette
there's so
32:11
many so many people with some
version of
32:15
clearance we've laughed about
this for a
32:18
long time I got to so far not
in our TRO
32:20
room alone
32:22
yeah cuz it's rampant yeah I
actually
32:26
come from a partial CIA family
and have
32:28
nose clearance
32:30
I have anti clearance they put
me a
32:34
different table at Thanksgiving
it's a
32:36
form of control how about the
definition
32:41
of control almost yeah did you
sign away
32:44
all these rights is talk about
this and
32:47
that you can you lose a lot of
free
32:49
speech rights this is crazy to
listen to
32:51
this reverse argument by guys
like mud I
32:54
don't know it's they did is
they they
32:57
know it's a scam and they've
got a they
32:59
would need their clearances so
they can
33:00
talk to each other it's like
your
33:03
experience with your niece or
whoever it
33:05
was she can't even talk to you
because
33:07
you're gonna have a clearance
yeah and
33:10
she's following the rules and
she
33:12
probably is that some really
good
33:14
well-paying job right now not
worrying
33:17
about your next podcast
33:19
oh man that's so I think this is
33:27
fantastic to watch anyone it
doesn't
33:30
matter really what side you're
on of any
33:32
political spectrum you should
not be
33:34
like I mean isn't when I grew
up and we
33:37
learned about Russia Soviet
Union which
33:40
is I think very little compared
to what
33:41
we know today that was one of
the things
33:44
everyone was a part of the
secret police
33:45
they were all you know in in
collusion
33:48
with each other and they could
pass on
33:50
stuff and they would leak and
there was
33:51
a net you know you would get
you would
33:52
get killed it turns out we have
all
33:56
these people
33:58
all of them always when you
look at Mike
34:00
Morell or John Brennan you
think yet
34:02
okay Clarence Phil Mudd didn't
really
34:04
think about it now I got to
think about
34:05
it all the time
34:07
well then you have in fact your
York
34:10
right next to one of these
jokers
34:14
uh Chancellor the University of
Texas at
34:17
Austin X spook whose movie
ex-military
34:23
McRaven I have a clip he's at
UT we're
34:30
leaders of the u.s. national
security
34:33
establishment or blasting
president
34:35
Trump's decision to strip X CIA
director
34:38
John Brennan abyss on the
leaders of the
34:41
national security establishment
how am I
34:44
supposed to interpret what that
means
34:46
well this is democracy now so
that mean
34:49
it's like what site hey where
are these
34:50
these journals journals I'll
remind you
34:54
it's shameful to call yourself
a a
34:58
journalist and and want this to
go on
35:03
I'm I am I'm look I'm just a VJ
what do
35:06
I know we're leaders of the u.s.
35:08
national security establishment
or
35:10
blasting president Trump's
decision to
35:13
strip X CIA director John
Brennan of a
35:15
security clearance calling it a
clear
35:17
attempt to stifle the free
speech of the
35:20
president's critics the letter
was
35:22
signed by six former CIA
directors five
35:25
former CIA deputy directors and
a former
35:28
Director of National
Intelligence it
35:30
came as the New York Times
reported
35:32
White House press secretary
Sarah
35:34
Huckabee Sanders sought to
advance the
35:37
security clearance story in
order to
35:39
change the topic away from news
reports
35:42
about Trump's alleged use of a
racial
35:44
slur what is important this
issue of
35:51
everyone running around with
top secret
35:53
clearance or you know someone
dog is
35:57
something dogs slur the N word
meanwhile
36:00
the former naval home
36:03
here's how this journalist just
said
36:05
that month away from news
reports about
36:08
Trump's alleged use of a racial
slur the
36:10
n-word wow I'm not a shred of
evidence
36:14
in this and they're just using
that as a
36:16
leader meanwhile the former
naval
36:19
Admiral who led the
assassination raid
36:22
on Osama bin Laden rode in an
open
36:24
letter he would consider it an
honor if
36:26
Trump would revoke his security
36:28
clearance retired naval Admiral
William
36:31
McRaven who led the u.s. Joint
Special
36:34
Operations Command under
President Obama
36:37
and now serves as Chancellor of
the
36:38
University of Texas wrote quote
through
36:41
your actions you've embarrassed
us in
36:44
the eyes of our children
humiliated us
36:46
on the world stage and worst of
all
36:48
divided us as a nation if you
think for
36:51
a moment that your McCarthy era
tactics
36:53
will suppress the voices of
criticism
36:55
you are sadly mistaken
36:58
McRaven wrote yeah and if you
think
37:00
we're going to allow the The
Times of
37:03
the Church Committee to go
unnoticed
37:04
you're severely mistaken sir
37:09
all right goodness well he's
been in
37:11
Austin so he's infected Oh
security
37:18
clearance pulled pull it yeah
right away
37:21
I'd pull it immediately if he
thinks
37:24
it's a good thing saying it's a
good
37:26
thing that's an honor
37:26
seems like some prince of
ordination to
37:28
me this is all insubordination
is
37:30
ridiculous unbelievable and I'm
still
37:35
not convinced that Omarosa who
he keeps
37:39
kind of flowing through this
story that
37:42
she isn't on another Trump
mission
37:44
because remember the last time
it was
37:47
very convenient that she said
things in
37:49
the Big Brother house that made
pence
37:52
look like a raving lunatic
compared to
37:54
trump right at the time when
people are
37:57
talking about hey you know we
get to
37:58
impeach him we get depends that
timing
38:02
was uncannily coincidental I'm
still not
38:06
sure that she's not on a
mission from
38:08
Trump I've felt the same way I
don't
38:11
know exactly what yet but come
on the
38:14
risk she's taking or she took
to record
38:17
people in the White House I
would be I I
38:22
don't think I could even do
that it
38:25
would only be between her and
Trump -
38:27
nobody else would know about
this just
38:30
insane else would know about
this just
38:32
I mean just think about even
you've got
38:33
to be really brazen to do that
kind of
38:37
stuff unless it's under some
kind of
38:39
control or or knowledge
38:42
or maybe she's just and crazy
that's
38:45
possible she's I don't know I
mean it's
38:51
just it'll turn up in the end
when we're
38:53
the young were dead I'd like to
find out
38:56
earlier young were dead I'd
like to find out
38:58
I don't think we can find out
are you
39:03
familiar with ASMR by the way
the
39:07
acronym autonomous sensory
meridian
39:09
response no I got a cop
actually not one
39:13
but a couple of emails about
this that
39:17
we played the clip from Omarosa
reading
39:20
from her book and and I think I
joked
39:23
about you know that she's
probably
39:24
already done the audiobook
because it
39:25
was a very dramatic read and it
was on
39:28
NPR so they really had a great
record
39:30
and you could hear every every
strand of
39:33
spittle sticking in her mouth
like that
39:37
you could hear it apparently a
lot and
39:42
that I think we may have
touched on this
39:43
months ago or longer a good
selves
39:46
Michael do exactly apparently
there is a
39:50
large group of Millennials who
love to
39:55
listen to recordings that are
39:58
specifically meant for the ASMR
audience
40:01
this autonomous sensory meridian
40:04
response which gives an
experience
40:07
characterized as a static light
or
40:10
tingling sensation on the skin
that
40:12
typically begins on the scalp
and moves
40:14
down the back of the neck and
upper
40:17
spine the back of the neck and
upper
40:19
it's people say this is a
version of
40:21
euphoria my subjective
experience of
40:25
low-grade euphoria
40:27
sounds like a standing wave to
me well I
40:30
have an example which is just
some guy
40:32
walking around some 3d world in
some egg
40:37
some game which of course I
have no idea
40:39
what this is but you'll hear
what this
40:42
is apparently a really good
example of
40:43
what people like and they
listen to this
40:46
and very high fidelity and it
gets them
40:49
off somehow
40:49
[Music] somehow
40:55
[Music] somehow
41:17
now you feel like yet no
neither well
41:22
here's a here's 10 seconds of
Omarosa
41:24
well I hear some guy with it
this kid
41:26
needs to clears throat or
something I
41:28
think it's part of it listen to
Omarosa
41:30
which people responded very
positively
41:32
to on this phone conversation I
was told
41:36
exactly what Donald Trump said
yes
41:39
the n-word and others and a
classic
41:42
truck goes nuclear rant
41:45
I think we could get in this
business I
41:49
think I said I think it's a
distinct
41:52
possibility if you can talk a
little
41:54
nothing moist I need to be
eating some
42:05
fruit all caps another business
42:25
opportunity we got the gear and
we do we
42:28
got the gear we got the talent
we just
42:30
need some scripts scripts I'm
gonna I'm
42:35
gonna do this I'm gonna release
an hour
42:37
of me just doing that I think
the bongos
42:40
would work out in this skin yes
I think
42:42
the bongos in fact do you have
any like
42:44
we need like you know the
percussion
42:47
where it's really kind of you
like a
42:52
wind chime wind chimes we'd
wind chime
42:54
have something similar I got
this and
42:56
get your wind chimes out bro
42:57
break it out yes from time to
time we
43:02
just go
43:22
we are good to go and we throw
in a rain
43:28
stick from time to time now
it's gonna
43:30
be genius rain just genius
43:34
oh man and even though I never
heard of
43:37
whatever it is you and I don't
have any
43:39
idea what you're doing
43:39
but no well anyway what was the
thing
43:42
it's the thing I didn't know
either but
43:45
it's a real thing let's see we
can go a
43:48
number of directions well let
me get was
43:52
history still in these talk
show as you
43:55
like to put it jabroni Georgia
mice to
43:57
play this clip because this is
a clip of
43:59
this Michelle Goldberg who
somehow got
44:02
on Katy tur show and Michelle
Goldberg
44:05
is a columnist for The New York
Times
44:07
and she gets her story
sometimes columns
44:10
above the fold on the front page
44:12
what's her what's her
background a
44:15
University of California
master's degree
44:17
and the journalism from the
Graduate
44:19
School of Journalism at Cal OH
44:21
above the fold you're gonna
hear her
44:27
there's a katie has this woman
come on
44:31
she's just doing some normal
discussion
44:33
of of Trump in the negative way
and then
44:36
this Goldberg woman jumps in
and makes
44:38
some commentary and then she's
got some
44:40
sidekick I don't know who this
guy is
44:42
but he sitting right next door
and
44:43
there's a big gap between those
two and
44:45
the woman talking and it's
gonna start
44:48
off with the woman talking but
but I
44:50
believe that what we're about
to hear
44:53
because I think she hasn't been
there
44:54
long enough she doesn't know
the rules
44:55
of the New York Times
44:56
I believe she's actually
expressing
44:59
because they brought her on for
a reason
45:02
in last year Justin last year
that she
45:06
is expressing the actual
thought the the
45:10
kind of the thought the way the
New York
45:13
Times thinks about everything
including
45:16
this country Trump and
everything in
45:19
before you in other words I
believe the
45:22
world view is being expressed
this said
45:24
New York Times columnist and I
think
45:27
she's a little out of it's
talking a
45:28
little out of class a lot of
whatever
45:30
the phrase is school hush out
of school
45:33
she a lot of school but she's
she's
45:34
telling it like hey okay now I
know what
45:37
The Times is up to it but again
this is
45:40
the most vocal president at
least in
45:42
real time that we've had in
recent
45:43
memory right he's the leader of
the free
45:46
world I know he's not you're
not the
45:47
leader in the free
45:48
but sorry by default as the
leader was
45:51
they will uncle Merkel's leader
is very
45:52
well but well he is the most
important
45:55
person in in the world in
politics right
45:58
now and he is very vocal and I
do agree
46:01
with you that this does Express
a level
46:03
of exasperation among his aides
that
46:05
they can't have any control
over your
46:08
are yeah go ahead I'm sorry your
46:11
argument that he's not the
leader of the
46:12
free world because he's not be
coming up
46:13
with democracy he's a sort of
junior
46:17
player in a block of
authoritarian
46:19
country and no and the people
like the
46:21
European Union are no longer
looking at
46:23
him as a leader any longer and
I think
46:25
it's not right they see he's
instead
46:27
he's like right he's part of a
block
46:29
that includes Vladimir Putin to
tear tey
46:32
he's you know but he's kind of
part of a
46:34
he's part of kind of an
accident that's
46:38
what it's worse than looking it
in a
46:39
certain way I mean not that
that's not
46:42
the worst thing you could have
said cuz
46:43
it's about the worst that could
say
46:44
about him rounding people up and
46:47
murdering murdering them
without any you
46:49
know process and they like to I
don't
46:53
think you can say that I do
46:55
wow this is an important clip I
think he
47:00
is I think so - he's a junior
leader in
47:04
a block of authoritarianism
cluding
47:06
duterte and Putin
47:10
what are we in authoritarian
country by
47:13
her standards yes yes yes yes
yes yes
47:16
great because we're part yes if
you're
47:18
globalist we are yes and that's
what
47:20
Obama tried to make us and I
would say
47:23
that her comment about Katie
throws in
47:26
well he's not rounding people
up and
47:28
shooting him referring to the
turkey I
47:30
think more than then Putin and
the woman
47:33
says well he'd sure like to
that's the
47:37
New York Times yes I think we
heard you
47:41
know screw I got to give you
this first
47:43
of all as an important clip very
47:47
important clip I think so I
think we
47:49
actually heard the the
mentality the
47:53
editorial mentality of the New
York
47:55
Times and when they brought
that racist
47:56
woman in who's you know dates
man yes
47:59
sir in this room he has you
whatever
48:01
whatever her name is they they
would
48:04
refuse to back off on that and
I said
48:06
well they they have too much
pride in
48:08
the back of no I don't believe
they have
48:09
too much right if they would
have backed
48:11
off if they wanted to they want
this
48:13
this is the New York Times
epitomized by
48:16
this woman's comments right here
48:19
they hate the country yeah they
hate
48:21
Trump and Angela Merkel Merkel
is the
48:25
truth Angela Merkel is the
leader of the
48:27
free world
48:28
she's Louise yeah we're gonna
see how
48:31
well she did it by the way
matter of
48:33
fact she did it by the way
matter of
48:34
oh he's not little America
Merkel's the
48:37
free and let's see how well the
leader
48:39
of the free world according to
New York
48:40
Times does when air Dewan
releases
48:45
500,000 or a million refugees
from
48:47
Turkey to go flood Europe
Germany mainly
48:50
let's see how she does then
leader of
48:52
the free world
48:54
that was suggested to us by
someone on
48:57
email and I thought it was yeah
forgot
48:59
about that
49:00
remember all those deals they
had to do
49:02
the European Union hey man take
them
49:04
back you know don't send it and
we'll
49:06
extend you money billions of
euros yeah
49:10
please keep them keep them and
now his
49:12
country's melting down who
knows what
49:14
the crazy guy will do angular
Merkel
49:16
will save you don't worry it's
all gonna
49:18
be fine just look at the ground
it'll
49:21
all go away very good John very
good and
49:26
I was very I just taken aback
by it
49:27
actually I can imagine I mean
this is
49:30
this is the kind of thing you
should
49:31
talk to your Lib Joe friends
about so
49:33
hey you know just what exactly
is going
49:35
on with this I probably will
although
49:38
one of them has kind of cut
himself off
49:40
from all political talk he
pussied out
49:43
yeah I totally pussied out
cheese what
49:46
something up the other day I
wanted to
49:47
get some clarification on
something that
49:49
he should know about and I
don't he's
49:54
too much man he's too crazy so
I got
49:57
nothing much man he's too crazy
so I got
49:59
um unfortunately this type of
thinking
50:02
and I'm one of this is just the
50:05
background it's just a chant
clip just
50:08
that you'll understand very
quickly
50:09
what's going on this is from
the DC
50:11
rally and this is a video
that's in the
50:14
show notes any show knows calm
and it's
50:17
it's like a dude named Ben type
guy long
50:20
hair you know that kind of has
the the
50:22
physique of a dude named Ben
he's
50:25
wearing a trump 2020 t-shirt
and he's
50:27
surrounded by the counter
protesters and
50:30
that we've determined that the
word
50:33
racist does not mean the same
as and
50:37
it's okay words can change
meaning that
50:40
racist if colorist means you're
actually
50:43
against someone else from from a
50:45
different skin color although
it hasn't
50:47
been used it could technically
you could
50:50
be a colorist against white
people
50:51
although I haven't heard it
technically
50:53
used that way but it does seem
the
50:55
definition is open for that
racist
50:58
implies the institutional
racism of the
51:03
white man mainly against all
other
51:06
people bright yeah discuss in
that essay
51:09
write hate speech
51:15
as we've learned in our civics
class and
51:17
I think they still teach it
maybe not is
51:21
still free speech and is
permissible
51:25
under the Constitution under
the First
51:27
Amendment I don't know who
teaches that
51:29
because when when the students
or others
51:31
are grilled on it by a man on
the street
51:34
or by a survey they don't think
hate
51:37
speech is not protected by the
51:38
Constitution general I think the
51:40
majority of people feel that way
51:41
well it's very very very
discouraging to
51:45
me to hear this because you
know you and
51:49
I grew up with I don't like
what you say
51:52
but I will defend your right to
say it
51:54
and sticks and stones may break
my bones
51:56
no no with that we saw that
change four
51:58
years ago words hurt is now
just the
52:01
phrase hey words hurt but this
is this
52:05
is a DC rally and not and I
don't know
52:09
if we'll play the whole thing
but not
52:10
only do you hear that racists
don't have
52:12
the right to free speech it's
just not
52:14
protected of the Constitution
52:18
[Music] of the Constitution
52:23
[Applause] of the Constitution
52:33
[Music] of the Constitution
52:34
[Applause] of the Constitution
52:41
now the crowd gets into it
52:56
[Applause] the crowd gets into
it
53:00
it's discouraging to hear this
race and
53:04
I can't understand a word of it
I think
53:06
is worse clip ever you're
welcome racist
53:10
don't have the right to free
speech in
53:13
Cajun yes racist don't have the
right to
53:17
free speech
53:19
so this has gone a step further
now yeah
53:22
that is a step further that's a
step in
53:24
the wrong direction it's very
wrong
53:26
direction so white men don't
have free
53:29
speech is the way I translated
now you
53:31
don't have that right anymore
because
53:33
you've been racist you're
you're kind
53:34
has been racist you need to
shut up you
53:37
don't have the right to free
speech
53:40
well that's what we were
witnessing when
53:41
they evergreen take over what's
going on
53:43
and it was just pretty much
telling the
53:45
teachers to shut up now you
have no
53:48
rights to speak to us but let's
just
53:50
talk about yeah let's not talk
about it
53:53
let's come back after our break
and
53:55
we'll do something on press
freedom
53:56
because you know the press
believes they
53:58
have all kinds of rights which
I believe
53:59
they actually don't have
54:04
with that reverse things I'd
like to
54:08
thank you for your courage to
say in the
54:09
morning to you John says these
things
54:12
for Clarence is for pussies
Dvorak way
54:16
anymore new mr. Adam curl so in
the
54:18
morning all the ships at sea
boots on
54:19
the ground feet near the water
and all
54:24
the Dames the nights out there
yes in
54:27
the morning to everybody in the
troll
54:28
room no agenda stream calm good
to have
54:31
you all here as usual I've been
very
54:33
helpful this morning and that
is highly
54:35
appreciated also I'd like to
say in the
54:36
morning to Darrin O'Neill again
54:39
comes back with an outstanding
54:44
album art for episode 1060 the
title of
54:47
that was Austin beatniks tenth
one zero
54:50
six zero no agenda notes comm
and this
54:53
was Alex Jones as Bart Simpson
but it
54:56
really was I think he rendered
a whole
54:58
new drawing of Alex Jones with
his
55:00
vitality boner pill drink and
he was
55:03
writing on the board I will not
call
55:04
people to arms on Twitter over
and over
55:07
again it's the classic iconic
Bart
55:09
Simpson blackboard pose and we
couldn't
55:14
find that this has been done
anywhere so
55:16
we leave I want to express the
55:18
methodology we use when we
picked the or
55:21
what at least an aspect of it
yeah
55:23
although we have been the
tricked hmm
55:26
but generally speaking we don't
like
55:28
people to use - if you're gonna
use
55:30
derivative art they have to
change it
55:31
enough and make it funny enough
that
55:34
it's okay you can do it but if
they
55:36
provide something that's just
somebody
55:38
else's art unless it's in the
public
55:41
domain and just wrap something
around it
55:43
like the No Agenda stuff that
we always
55:48
do it no it's not good enough
so when we
55:50
see something that's so
outstanding
55:53
we immediately assume the worst
it's not
55:59
because we distrust the artist
56:00
necessarily is to protect them
as well
56:04
because what's also that well
besides
56:06
for taking them it's that when
you see
56:08
something like this you go or
you say to
56:10
yourself how did he get this
done in
56:13
this amount of time that's
something
56:17
else similarly done that is yet
who
56:19
knows yeah there's no evidence
that this
56:21
was anything but original and
and then
56:24
he had the cool little moniker
for us
56:28
longtime podcast personality
Adam curry
56:31
and foamer John sees war over I
gotta
56:37
tell you the
56:39
the amount of requests for that
ISO clip
56:42
is more than anything we've
ever had
56:53
it's a winner is a winner total
winner
56:57
well thank you very much
56:58
Darren it's highly appreciated
great
57:01
work it really makes a
difference when
57:04
you see where we have not been
deep
57:06
platformed Oh yet so you know
so we show
57:10
up in in iTunes and podcast and
all the
57:13
other odds away since the
picture of the
57:16
dog with his paw to his head
side of his
57:19
head yeah who's been for
podcasts and
57:21
none of them on the Roku app
have none
57:24
of the artworks have shown up
since that
57:26
picture hmm has anything been
changed
57:29
I've no not that I'm aware of
57:33
okay no idea cuz I was look as
I go to
57:38
the Roku app every so often to
see how
57:40
the art looks and I because I
wanted to
57:43
see this particular piece for
sure and
57:45
it was just a white blank hmm
that's
57:49
strange I I really don't know
mmm okay
57:51
no hopefully our Roku Gow yeah
or gal we
57:54
have no idea who does a lot of
this diet
57:56
yeah we love it now he's
contacted me
57:59
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58:03
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58:16
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[Applause] people in the mouth
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okie-dokie way ase I have to
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freedom which is not a thing by
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I think this is snuck in and
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speaks of
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you've
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remember let's just make sure
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1:03:31
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Congress shall make no law
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1:03:36
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1:03:39
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1:03:47
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1:03:50
assemble and to petition the
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for a redress of grievances so
the
1:03:56
government can make no law
1:03:58
that abridges the freedom of
speech what
1:04:02
does abridge mean well let's
take let's
1:04:05
do do it by the definition
shortcut the
1:04:07
actual definition the actual
the actual
1:04:09
definition is to shorten or to
curtail
1:04:13
that's the legal definition is
curtail
1:04:16
and be curtail curtail so that
Congress
1:04:20
may not curtail now it says
curtail the
1:04:25
freedom of speech and they may
not
1:04:26
abridge the freedom of the
press now
1:04:30
let's understand that the
freedom of the
1:04:33
press is it relates to freedom
of speech
1:04:36
and the way I think this has
always been
1:04:38
understood by the Supreme Court
who
1:04:40
claims to be the highest
authority is
1:04:42
that that means you can print
whatever
1:04:44
you want say whatever you want
you can
1:04:47
print whatever you want even
that can
1:04:49
not the government cannot stop
that now
1:04:52
can you be sued for libel and
are there
1:04:54
things that over the years
we've agreed
1:04:56
to that are not okay incitement
to
1:04:58
violence is the main one sure
it does
1:05:03
not mean that the press is
better than
1:05:06
citizens like myself or Jhansi
Dvorak
1:05:08
they have more privileges they
have just
1:05:12
nothing nothing extra doesn't
mean you
1:05:14
get to that you have the right
to go and
1:05:17
be in the White House briefing
room
1:05:19
doesn't mean any of that
1:05:21
but the press wants you to
believe it
1:05:24
and it's it's discouraging
1:05:29
so here is well actually a lot
of
1:05:32
mistakes in this one this is a
CBC
1:05:34
report from Kanda Naevia and
this is
1:05:37
regarding the hundreds of
newspapers
1:05:40
that all wrote editorial board
1:05:43
statements or op-eds about
Trump calling
1:05:46
the fake news media the enemy
of the
1:05:50
people fake news media the
enemy of the
1:05:50
now he did at one point say the
fake
1:05:53
news media like CNN so
definitely he has
1:05:58
literally called CNN fake news
media yes
1:06:03
so more than once so they they
have an
1:06:06
actual grievance I think if
anybody does
1:06:09
but now I again you know so we
come to
1:06:14
the incitement part of you know
if
1:06:16
you're calling someone the
enemy of the
1:06:17
people is that a hate speech
that
1:06:20
incites violence yeah that is
something
1:06:23
that could be discussed for a
long time
1:06:25
and that's really what the
journals are
1:06:26
doing except they keep changing
it a
1:06:29
little bit to the press the
Free Press
1:06:32
is the enemy of the people the
media is
1:06:34
the ending is the people the
journalists
1:06:36
are the enemy of the people
none of that
1:06:38
was ever said they have done it
and they
1:06:41
are creating a very poor
situation out
1:06:44
of something that's already
shit but
1:06:46
look at the work you're
delivering
1:06:47
so here's CBC of just a lot of
bad
1:06:51
quotes in this hundreds of
newspapers
1:06:53
across the United States are
fighting
1:06:55
back against the US president
today
1:06:57
dailies weeklies national
publications
1:07:00
are all launching a coordinated
1:07:02
editorial campaign just even
those words
1:07:05
you know they're fighting back
really
1:07:07
are they for the fighting is
are they
1:07:09
sort of is it a real fight if
we're
1:07:12
gonna talk about words let's
really
1:07:13
analyze them all standing up
for press
1:07:15
freedom headlines standing up
for press
1:07:19
freedom which is meaningless
making the
1:07:20
rounds the move is in response
to Donald
1:07:23
Trump calling the news media
the enemy
1:07:26
of American people oh it's even
better
1:07:28
now in Canada Navia no it's not
that
1:07:32
it's the America is the news
media yeah
1:07:35
is the enemy of the American
people yeah
1:07:38
but it's the new
1:07:39
it's not the fixed news media
it is the
1:07:41
news media so we've already
were already
1:07:43
just misquoting at best lying
at worst
1:07:47
one of the papers taking part
in the
1:07:49
call to action is the st. Louis
1:07:51
post-dispatch in Missouri
1:07:53
Todd Roberson is the editorial
page
1:07:55
editor and he says the
president's
1:07:57
barrage against the media
erodes public
1:08:00
trust with journalists across
the
1:08:02
country when the public is told
that the
1:08:05
truth is fake and fake false
information
1:08:09
is truth it just creates chaos
people
1:08:13
don't know who to believe
anymore
1:08:16
like the guys he fumbles it a
little bit
1:08:19
doesn't he we talking about
1:08:28
well hello it's chaos remember
it's our
1:08:29
favorite theme chaos chaos we
gotta
1:08:32
bring chaos back across the
country when
1:08:34
the public is told that the
truth is
1:08:37
fake and fake false information
is truth
1:08:41
it just creates chaos people
don't know
1:08:45
who to believe it no kidding we
don't
1:08:46
know who to believe what do you
think
1:08:48
this is all about anymore for
10 years
1:08:50
we've been doing this show no
kidding
1:08:52
the people don't believe the
news media
1:08:54
and and and democracy cannot
function
1:08:58
properly in that kind of a
circumstance
1:09:00
our main front is pretty much
sorry I
1:09:03
noticed from the other
editorials that I
1:09:06
was able to review if there are
a lot of
1:09:08
them there so it's hard to
review them
1:09:09
all but but there's a
consistent thread
1:09:12
throughout which is that when
you listen
1:09:14
someone any group of people
place this
1:09:18
label on them you target them
for attack
1:09:21
and we all feel it's just a
matter of
1:09:24
time you fall let me see so for
instance
1:09:26
if you if you label someone
literally
1:09:30
Hitler and just as bad as the
Nazis
1:09:36
ripping children from mothers
arms when
1:09:39
you label someone like that do
you think
1:09:41
that could cause an issue do
you think
1:09:42
that if they're really truly
were Nazis
1:09:45
that you know smart people
patriotic
1:09:49
people wouldn't go out and kill
the
1:09:51
Nazis wouldn't go out and kill
the
1:09:54
I guess that that logic is lost
on this
1:09:56
dick people place this label on
them you
1:10:00
target them for attack and we
all feel
1:10:03
it's just a matter of time
before some
1:10:06
vigilante somewhere takes the
law into
1:10:09
his own hands and this has to
go after
1:10:11
the enemy yes yeah
1:10:13
that's the problem we have here
these
1:10:16
guys don't seem to recognize
they're
1:10:17
just worried about their own
skins
1:10:19
nobody knows who they are I
mean you
1:10:21
read any newspaper look on this
road
1:10:23
about 30 guys your body lines
in there
1:10:25
you read them you know who
these guys
1:10:27
are you never seen them they're
not on
1:10:28
television now but they feel
that
1:10:30
they're heroic
1:10:32
I think oh you know they really
have a
1:10:33
high regard for themselves and
they
1:10:36
don't they are to know
according to the
1:10:37
Constitution of the United
States of
1:10:39
America codified in 1789 you
have no
1:10:43
extra right above me I can do
or or or a
1:10:47
church or church guys in a
crowd you
1:10:51
just shaking their fists
1:10:52
you have no extra right none
1:10:57
press freedom here's some more
journals
1:11:01
on NPR same topic I think that
one thing
1:11:10
you're gonna love this by the
way the
1:11:12
and you've got to talk to your
journal
1:11:14
friends about this one I think
that one
1:11:18
thing that people are finding
some
1:11:19
difficulty in I'm talking not
not the
1:11:21
president but the public who has
1:11:23
received this negatively is
that they do
1:11:26
see these coordinated
editorials as some
1:11:29
sort of a either bias or be
attack on
1:11:34
the president and I saw saw
them as
1:11:36
neither just as the president
would
1:11:38
stand up and strongly protect
article 1
1:11:41
of the Constitution because
that's where
1:11:43
the executive power is derived
from
1:11:45
members of the press the
journalism as
1:11:48
an industry is the only trade
that is
1:11:50
expressly protected by the US
1:11:53
Constitution Wow that to me is
if do
1:11:57
they really believe this that
the trade
1:12:00
of journalism I actually am
subscribed
1:12:03
to that too well I think is
horseshit
1:12:06
the trade as an industry as an
industry
1:12:09
you're protected by the
Constitution
1:12:12
oh great as an industry she
says yeah I
1:12:16
think so I agree with that the
industry
1:12:18
is protected by what difference
is there
1:12:20
between your industry and just
people
1:12:23
well that's protected by the
1:12:24
Constitution too but the point
is the
1:12:26
point is not that it's got any
special
1:12:29
protection it just happens to
be the
1:12:31
only one mentioned in the
Constitution
1:12:32
that's protected but it's it's
not it's
1:12:35
not a person it's not a church
it's not
1:12:37
just press the press the framing
1:12:40
bloggers ah ah okay so if I'm a
blogger
1:12:46
I am then protected as a part
of the
1:12:49
same industry I think so okay
let's go
1:12:53
try that out should we go to
the White
1:12:54
House briefing room see how we
do I'm a
1:12:57
podcaster my industry is
protected under
1:13:00
the First Amendment the podcast
industry
1:13:03
I think so yeah article one of
the
1:13:06
Constitution because that's
where the
1:13:08
executive power is derived from
members
1:13:11
of the press the journalism as
an
1:13:13
industry is the only trade that
is
1:13:15
expressly protected by the US
1:13:18
Constitution is the act of
running a
1:13:22
church a trade no it's not is
it is it
1:13:26
an institution
1:13:30
I just consider it a church and
I guess
1:13:32
I think you could make the
arguments in
1:13:34
institution sure
1:13:37
Pressley protected by the US
1:13:40
Constitution and that's what
this is a
1:13:42
reminder that there is a
freedom of the
1:13:45
press and pushing against that
goes
1:13:48
against always goes against the
spirit
1:13:50
of that rule if not the letter
and the
1:13:53
president's attack you know
just as
1:13:55
Aaron said as the enemy of the
people
1:13:57
howhow is that abridging
they're right
1:13:59
by saying that it's hateful
speech
1:14:02
towards them but how is it a
bridge and
1:14:04
by the way none of those op-eds
were
1:14:06
reminder of this know they were
bitching
1:14:09
and moaning about being called
enemy of
1:14:10
the people yeah that's not a
run a point
1:14:14
you and that point you are
correct sir
1:14:16
okay but it's just the letter
and the
1:14:25
president's attack you know
just as
1:14:28
Aaron said as the enemy of the
people I
1:14:30
mean that's I think what you
really want
1:14:33
to say if you guys usually
press people
1:14:36
would actually do your job and
stop
1:14:40
slanting news like the one we
had in the
1:14:42
last show with Lester Holt
making up
1:14:44
quotes that didn't exist and
people
1:14:47
saying that the president said
this when
1:14:48
he didn't or saying the
president said
1:14:50
this when he didn't doing that
over and
1:14:52
over and over again and then
making it a
1:14:54
meme that is not doing your job
1:14:57
that is just writing propaganda
I mean
1:15:00
if you did this issue wouldn't
even be
1:15:02
discussed on this show if the
press was
1:15:05
honest they're dishonest it
doesn't
1:15:08
matter that I'm fine with it
because
1:15:10
they can be as dishonest as
they want I
1:15:11
really don't care that's what
creates
1:15:13
the problem if they weren't
dishonest
1:15:15
they wouldn't get all this flak
no we
1:15:17
just sometimes get it wrong but
we
1:15:18
always correct they don't this
is what
1:15:21
this is this is what they say
back to
1:15:23
you they're wrong it's hot I've
read I
1:15:26
read at least it's like the
Syria red
1:15:28
line bombing of the gas to
first go
1:15:31
around it was it was proven out
time and
1:15:34
time again to be the the more
weapons of
1:15:38
mass destruction tubes come on
always
1:15:43
goes against the spirit of that
rule if
1:15:46
not the letter and the
president's
1:15:48
attack the letter and the
president's
1:15:49
I goes if not the letter it's
why I'm
1:15:52
picking the report goes into
the spirit
1:15:54
of that is a reminder that
there is a
1:15:57
freedom of the press and
pushing against
1:15:59
that goes against always goes
against
1:16:02
the spirit of that rule if not
better
1:16:05
said that's bullshit
1:16:06
if pushing against that goes
against the
1:16:08
spirit if not the letter No
1:16:11
and the president's attack you
know he's
1:16:13
actually exercising free speech
says
1:16:16
Aaron set as the enemy of the
people I
1:16:18
mean that's a really really
strong
1:16:21
denouncement that's you know to
put us
1:16:24
in the same category as those
folks who
1:16:27
would commit terrorist attacks
or
1:16:28
something against the United
States is
1:16:30
really outrageous what a
terrorist
1:16:31
attack has something to do with
the
1:16:33
First Amendment now
1:16:35
and I think it's important to
point that
1:16:37
out I don't think that's being
unbiased
1:16:39
I think that it's an important
assertion
1:16:42
of the Constitution and its
protections
1:16:45
of journalists okay I think
you've made
1:16:47
your point
1:16:49
you beating this poor with
people to
1:16:51
death we know they're full of
crap it's
1:16:53
not really and it did much of
an issue
1:16:54
there's something in there that
galled
1:16:56
you dinner some just some well
yeah the
1:17:00
day as a class of people of
workers and
1:17:04
industry are protected by the
1:17:05
Constitution and you agree with
it I
1:17:07
don't I think it's just no I
think the
1:17:09
the the act of printing words
whether
1:17:14
that's you know modern-day
video doesn't
1:17:17
matter you can say whatever you
want it
1:17:19
doesn't mean that journalists
are
1:17:20
protected like oh don't touch
him no
1:17:22
more than I am in fact I think
you made
1:17:25
that point right off the bat I
don't
1:17:26
think well they don't you say
something
1:17:29
hurt me I'm repeating it then
don't
1:17:30
don't don't
1:17:32
something did you I don't know
what it
1:17:35
was I just told you what it was
that's
1:17:37
what well you know the press
has got you
1:17:42
know the problem is is yeah I
know what
1:17:45
you're trying to say I know
what you're
1:17:47
saying is that everybody has
these
1:17:48
freedoms and why is the press
holding
1:17:51
themselves high and mighty above
1:17:52
everyone else when and talked
to all
1:17:54
they have is the printing press
at their
1:17:57
you're the broadcasting tower
or the
1:18:00
podcasting microphone or
whatever they
1:18:02
want yes are they special and
they're no
1:18:07
special than the average person
standing
1:18:09
on the corners right so it's the
1:18:10
arrogance that is taught in
j-school
1:18:12
that they are special is I
think what
1:18:15
irks me them is what arcs me the
1:18:17
arrogance of we're special I
agree yeah
1:18:20
you can argue that okay well
that's it
1:18:22
you are not high and mighty
1:18:25
I've dot let's go to a switch
do this
1:18:35
because in this I have a little
Andrea
1:18:38
Mitchell screw first of all
there's this
1:18:43
discussion is subtle right now a
1:18:45
discussion of privatizing the
FDA
1:18:48
it's now war yes yes yes this
is by the
1:18:50
way you know that right now we
have
1:18:53
15,000 enlisted soldiers and
30,000
1:18:58
contractors now Afghanistan
Erik Prince
1:19:01
discusses Andrea Mitchell and
Erik
1:19:04
Prince of course wants to get a
piece of
1:19:05
the action and know ever since
this
1:19:08
guy's folded his tent and
started new
1:19:10
companies he he's working like
his
1:19:13
analysis working for China he's
working
1:19:15
for a whole bunch of other not
getting
1:19:17
us contracts ok go work over
here
1:19:19
well and even that's
exaggerated though
1:19:22
apparently but let's listen to
his take
1:19:24
down of the situation as it now
exists
1:19:26
because she brings him on to
criticize
1:19:28
him obviously a sentence in him
it's an
1:19:30
NBC operation and that she's
hoping to
1:19:34
get is go but he's just really
good at
1:19:35
explaining what's really going
on I
1:19:37
really enjoyed this what about
oversight
1:19:39
what about a you know the chain
of
1:19:41
command if you're had private
no right
1:19:44
now you do have one company for
private
1:19:47
security that is licensed in
Hong Kong
1:19:52
this is Andrea Mitchell I
betcha her but
1:19:56
the clip I'm looking for is
Erik Prince
1:19:57
I'm sorry is Erik Prince and
former Navy
1:20:01
SEAL the founder of Black Order
and the
1:20:03
former firm that had faced
years of
1:20:06
investigations for its role in
Iraq no
1:20:08
longer exists he has now
launched a new
1:20:10
security organization and he's
pushing
1:20:12
for the privatization of the
war in
1:20:13
Afghanistan mr. Prince thank
you thank
1:20:16
you much for over being here
what would
1:20:18
be the advantages of
privatizing given
1:20:21
all the objections from the
Pentagon
1:20:23
from the State Department from
the rest
1:20:24
of a military first of all
privatization
1:20:27
is a loaded term right there's
right now
1:20:29
there's 15,000 US troops and
another
1:20:31
30,000 contractors all I need
all my
1:20:34
plan would say 2000 US Special
Forces
1:20:37
remain and about 6,000
contractors so by
1:20:40
any stretch that is a severe
reduction
1:20:42
in manpower and certainly in
spending
1:20:45
right now America this year
2019 will
1:20:47
spend sixty two billion dollars
just in
1:20:50
Afghanistan that's more than
the entire
1:20:52
UK defense budget so if people
are
1:20:54
concerned about domestic
spending or
1:20:56
budget deficits
1:20:58
or the fact that we have
Americans dying
1:21:00
fighting and dying there now as
recently
1:21:02
as last week who were infants
when the
1:21:05
twin towers came down we now
have our
1:21:07
first multi-generational war
and I'm
1:21:09
trying to get a rationalization
of it
1:21:11
what worked after 9/11 where a
few CIA
1:21:14
officers a few Special Forces
and some
1:21:17
air support and they devastated
the
1:21:19
Taliban in a matter of weeks if
we when
1:21:21
we shifted six months after
9/11 to a
1:21:24
very conventional battle plan
1:21:25
effectively repeating what the
Soviet
1:21:27
battle plan was in the 1980s we
have
1:21:29
been losing ever since we've
been losing
1:21:31
blood and treasure and just as
recently
1:21:34
as this week when you have four
1:21:35
simultaneous attacks across the
country
1:21:37
killing 350 Afghans and blowing
up 50
1:21:40
kids in Kabul who are studying
for exams
1:21:42
that is not what winning looks
like yeah
1:21:45
yeah and there's our friend
blood and
1:21:46
treasure back again haven't
heard that
1:21:48
in a couple of years yeah like
the term
1:21:51
well he goes on there's a bunch
of funny
1:21:54
stuff and then but then they go
into
1:21:56
this thing where Andrea was
given false
1:21:58
information that's used and he
he was
1:22:01
very gentle with her in passing
like no
1:22:05
ice not this never would goes
like this
1:22:06
it was very interesting but it
was she
1:22:09
skit you can hear I wish you
could see
1:22:11
it because she's so flustered
over this
1:22:13
information she's reading
condemning him
1:22:17
about something or other about
his
1:22:18
relationship with China in
those schools
1:22:21
and giving nonsense throwing
nonsense at
1:22:26
him and he rebukes it all it's
very
1:22:28
funny clip what about oversight
what
1:22:31
about a you know the chain of
command
1:22:33
get your head private no right
now you
1:22:36
do have one company for private
security
1:22:39
that is licensed in Hong Kong
you train
1:22:42
in a rented facility in Beijing
you've
1:22:45
graduated at least 5,000 from
there
1:22:47
already Oh mmm no not the
company that I
1:22:51
have anything to do with
there's not
1:22:52
done anything like that no
question
1:22:54
we've grown oh we've graduated
yeah 20
1:22:58
or 30 employees how cool is this
1:23:00
Business School has materials
claims
1:23:03
that prior to our involvement
look
1:23:07
you're in November when you
were giving
1:23:09
the the giving them a
commencement
1:23:11
message the giving them a
commencement
1:23:12
Skype correct those releases
those are
1:23:14
the first 20 company employees
that's it
1:23:16
anyway going back to
Afghanistan I think
1:23:19
he's smart she tried to do a
gotcha on
1:23:22
him smart she tried to do a
gotcha on
1:23:22
yeah failed told fail and then
she tried
1:23:26
later I didn't have this clip
and I
1:23:28
probably should have she goes
and she
1:23:31
tries this tricks where she
says she
1:23:33
tries to get him flustered by
saying
1:23:34
what do you think about Donald
Trump
1:23:36
calling people names
1:23:38
he's called your sister ditzy
DeVos yeah
1:23:42
which is not confirmed it's
just a rumor
1:23:44
it's a rumor she's glad to use
and he
1:23:48
just passed he laughs that off
really
1:23:50
easily just wheels on to the
next topic
1:23:52
he has a he's very
single-minded this
1:23:55
guy's not get sidetracked I
like this
1:23:59
guy the interesting thing is
that with
1:24:02
the Benghazi attack on the
embassy all
1:24:06
those guys were contractors so
what
1:24:09
happens when those who are left
over who
1:24:12
weren't killed in action now
what
1:24:14
happens to them well not only
do they
1:24:16
have all their security
clearances
1:24:18
pulled but they also had to
sign NDA's
1:24:21
along with all the other
survivors if
1:24:23
you remember we have there were
53
1:24:25
survival brennan by though
that's yes
1:24:27
brennan pulled their
credentials Brennan
1:24:29
made him sign NDA so they
couldn't talk
1:24:31
about it
1:24:35
yeah curtailing their freedom
of speech
1:24:38
and well nobody wants to bring
that up
1:24:41
except us and sure knows
because we're
1:24:43
journalists that's why cuz we
do K we
1:24:46
are we are we are sure T sure
knows baby
1:24:48
I by Jardel don't de platform e
bro
1:24:51
we're journals oh man okay well
then
1:24:58
we're gonna go in that
direction I got
1:24:59
one more clip this one cracks
me up
1:25:02
because for one thing if you're
gonna do
1:25:04
the report to scare the public
about the
1:25:08
threat of hurricanes in
California this
1:25:14
is a global warming story that
showed up
1:25:16
my believers on CBS and it was
like just
1:25:19
a scare harum-scarum story that
we're
1:25:21
gonna have hurricanes because
of the
1:25:22
temperature rising in the
oceans the
1:25:25
problem is when you start to
deconstruct
1:25:26
the story they have they have
dates in
1:25:29
there that don't coincide with
the
1:25:31
current global warming scheme
1:25:33
temperature in the Pacific all
go hit a
1:25:35
record high this month and
there are new
1:25:37
concerns rising water
temperatures could
1:25:39
bring hurricanes to California
Jamie
1:25:42
yuccas is there Harvey and
Katrina
1:25:49
we're among the Hurricanes that
have
1:25:51
ravaged the East Coast and Gulf
of
1:25:53
Mexico but here in California
hurricanes
1:25:57
are virtually unheard of what
do you do
1:25:59
in that case of a hurricane I
don't know
1:26:00
I can't imagine like that kind
of
1:26:02
devastation hitting the stores
here
1:26:03
hurricanes that form in the
eastern
1:26:05
Pacific Ocean usually don't
make it past
1:26:08
Baja California only one
managed to
1:26:11
reach as far as San Diego in
1858
1:26:14
however there's now the
potential this
1:26:16
rare event could strike the San
Diego
1:26:18
area again oceanographer art
Miller it
1:26:22
could happen especially if the
ocean
1:26:25
temperatures continue to stay
in this
1:26:28
anomalously warm state it's
very simple
1:26:30
scientists at the Scripps pier
have been
1:26:32
recording historic temperatures
in the
1:26:35
Pacific Ocean as high as
seventy nine
1:26:37
point five degrees that's about
ten
1:26:40
degrees above normal but what
has the
1:26:42
temperature above normal but
what has the
1:26:42
showed you over the last week
or so it's
1:26:45
shown that we have been right
at or
1:26:47
outside the record temperatures
that
1:26:49
were already set back in the
30s so we
1:26:51
know that we are experiencing a
very
1:26:52
extreme temperature event that
1:26:55
potentially increases the
likelihood
1:26:56
that a hurricane might track
just a
1:26:58
little bit further north than
it would
1:27:00
have even though California has
been
1:27:03
battle tested by fires
mudslides and
1:27:05
earthquakes the widespread
impact of a
1:27:08
hurricane on lives and property
is still
1:27:11
unknown this is worse than fake
news the
1:27:19
public needlessly well
meanwhile one did
1:27:21
slip by and I think before he
finished
1:27:24
out I do want to mention two
things
1:27:25
about that story one was they
do mention
1:27:29
1858 when a hurricane
apparently hit San
1:27:32
Diego and then they say the
temperatures
1:27:34
of the getting to the where
they were in
1:27:37
the 1930s 80 years ago its
conditioning
1:27:41
baby conditioning it's getting
you ready
1:27:44
for crisis it wasn't slipped by
me
1:27:47
although it did come up in the
household
1:27:49
was I think it started why know
where it
1:27:53
started but the really once
Mother Jones
1:27:55
published it Mother Jones got
to think
1:27:57
of other Jones is good Mother
Jones
1:27:59
Mother Jones of true journalism
that's
1:28:02
where corn is fish report
oatmeal
1:28:07
breakfast foods contain unsafe
amounts
1:28:09
of weed killer Oh breakfast
where the
1:28:12
dose of roundup the roundup
chemical
1:28:14
found responsible for cancer
might also
1:28:16
be in your oatmeal we had a
clip the
1:28:19
last show yes well I figured
the origins
1:28:22
finally got to the oranges of
it the
1:28:23
Environmental Working Group
have we ever
1:28:25
dealt with these guys before
1:28:31
I said the name rings a bell
yeah well
1:28:34
this there's they're sponsored
by a
1:28:35
whole bunch of organic food
brands
1:28:37
they're nonprofit a 501 4 C
which means
1:28:41
they're lobbying group and they
just
1:28:43
published a report not in a
scientific
1:28:45
journal and just published a
report on
1:28:48
the blog and uh look at this we
got the
1:28:51
proof now yeah you could find
all kinds
1:28:53
of stuff so all kinds of trace
amounts
1:28:55
in in products and I'm sure
that they
1:28:57
might have found some trace of
1:28:59
glyphosate in in oatmeal the
actual by
1:29:03
their own admission in the
report what
1:29:08
they found was a hundred times
less than
1:29:10
the EPA threshold it's like the
what is
1:29:13
the the the plastic stuff that
though
1:29:18
there's a bunch of different
plastics
1:29:20
yeah we talked about it's the
stuff that
1:29:22
the traffic cones from that's
in mac and
1:29:25
cheese yeah back right yeah
that goes
1:29:28
way back that discussion like
none of
1:29:30
this is healthy obviously but
this was
1:29:33
Jay and the press gobbles it up
it's a
1:29:35
it's a great great toss away
before the
1:29:37
top of the hour you can you can
toss it
1:29:45
in just before the break and
now a crazy
1:29:47
story Wow if you buddy yeah and
and
1:29:50
we're so used to it that you
know we
1:29:51
just shake our head like you
know
1:29:53
whatever Oh what next won't
move on yeah
1:29:56
but you gotta call it out it's
just PR
1:29:58
job it's just a PR job the
Environmental
1:30:02
Working Group all kinds of fun
little
1:30:05
organic product brands
sponsoring that
1:30:08
way to go guys way to go the
way I do
1:30:11
have an I so from their last
clip of
1:30:13
mine an I so from their last
clip of
1:30:15
okay I have it here I can't
understand
1:30:20
all its ah there goes the house
no it's
1:30:26
not nice call wait do I know
you already
1:30:29
have one I know I know I know
1:30:33
here's a piece of news that's
really
1:30:35
kind of interesting this is
again this
1:30:38
reminds me a little bit about
that like
1:30:40
that Michelle Goldberg in her
Angela
1:30:43
Merkel runs the world it's like
it's I
1:30:48
think this is a bad sign by the
way when
1:30:50
the employees who should be
just doing
1:30:53
their jobs if they want to get
into
1:30:55
management or the board of
directors I
1:30:59
mean that's different than just
being
1:31:01
some schlub doing you know
working on
1:31:03
code no offense
1:31:05
Ben but here's what's going on
this is
1:31:08
the Google story 1,400 workers
at Google
1:31:12
have signed a letter protesting
their
1:31:14
company's plans to launch a
service in
1:31:17
China that will allow Chinese
censors to
1:31:19
block search terms about human
rights
1:31:22
democracy religion and peaceful
protest
1:31:25
The New York Times reports the
workers
1:31:28
say the plan raises urgent
moral and
1:31:30
ethical issues earlier this
month the
1:31:34
intercept reported Google's
project
1:31:36
codenamed dragonfly was
launched in the
1:31:39
spring of last year and
accelerated
1:31:42
after Google's CEO met with a
top
1:31:44
Chinese government official in
December
1:31:47
this is what always happens to
the
1:31:49
revolution it always eats itself
1:31:52
and and I you know this is a
part of a
1:31:57
a bigger conversation about the
social
1:32:00
networks because the social
networks
1:32:02
really and truly have F
themselves and I
1:32:05
think a lot of Silicon Valley
companies
1:32:07
are doing this you know Google
their job
1:32:11
is to collect the world's
information
1:32:13
and that's what they say and we
got all
1:32:15
the information and then they
1:32:16
disseminate that out and they
make money
1:32:18
on that so they have a network
you know
1:32:21
in their cases do you know they
got a
1:32:23
huge network of people and
computers and
1:32:25
actual networks as does
Facebook and
1:32:28
Twitter they all have networks
yeah and
1:32:30
but you know when you no longer
control
1:32:33
the people through you know the
1:32:37
Pavlovian feedback loops and
people say
1:32:42
wait a minute
1:32:43
I could actually use this
against the
1:32:45
network itself which is where
you know
1:32:48
this is where am i you can't
monetize
1:32:49
the network comes from because
at the at
1:32:52
the bottom line whether it's an
ad based
1:32:54
platform which we or not an ad
based
1:32:57
publisher like Twitter or
Facebook or
1:33:00
whether it's a technology
company Google
1:33:02
they all use the network and
they can't
1:33:04
you ultimately cannot fight the
network
1:33:05
look Alex Jones gonna be the
platform
1:33:07
from everything is that gonna
stop
1:33:09
hundreds of thousands of people
1:33:11
uploading his audio and his
videos to
1:33:13
Twitter no what will have to
happen
1:33:16
we've got to go police it how
do you
1:33:18
police it well we know AI is a
lie
1:33:20
because I see them hiring the
the face
1:33:23
baggers right behind me here in
downtown
1:33:25
Austin they want to have three
thousand
1:33:27
by the end of next year and we
know from
1:33:29
our Intel or uber Intel that
they're
1:33:32
being trained to watch every
single
1:33:33
video on Instagram every single
video on
1:33:36
the Facebook to make sure that
it passes
1:33:39
the community standards but it
doesn't
1:33:41
matter community standards but
it doesn't
1:33:42
by the way just a sight can you
imagine
1:33:44
having that job that has got to
be
1:33:47
mind-numbing oh I think you
need to be
1:33:50
on pharmaceutical helpers no
doubt so
1:33:54
all of this you
1:33:57
you've unleashed the Beast
you've taught
1:33:58
everyone how to use the
networks and now
1:34:01
they're using it they're using
it
1:34:02
against the networks themselves
1:34:04
I see no and of course
billion-dollar
1:34:07
companies don't go away
overnight but
1:34:09
you know if someone if someone
really
1:34:11
got pissed off about it we're
1:34:12
unimportant but let's just say
there
1:34:15
were enough people that got
pissed off
1:34:16
about the No Agenda show but
that is
1:34:18
easy you just target
advertisers you
1:34:21
make a lot of noise like hey
you know
1:34:23
hey Nikes advertising on this
platform
1:34:25
that has too no agenda show
well we're
1:34:27
gonna boycott them like he
doesn't care
1:34:29
if you can see that he adds or
not they
1:34:31
don't want to be involved hey
we have no
1:34:33
media that's always the answer
when you
1:34:35
see the sleeping giant people
going
1:34:38
after a media matters going
after
1:34:39
companies so like you know what
yeah I
1:34:42
mean we're not gonna advertise
there for
1:34:44
a while we're kind of done
right we just
1:34:45
don't want to be involved in it
you know
1:34:48
there's all kinds of ways that
the
1:34:50
network is working against the
companies
1:34:52
they they are and if and by the
way if
1:34:53
we actually figured this out
think of
1:34:56
how powerful we would be
1:34:59
we really would be very very
powerful
1:35:02
it's why are they interested oh
no no of
1:35:06
course none of that power trip
we just
1:35:07
like to deconstruct a few news
stories
1:35:10
I'm not talking about us per se
but the
1:35:13
people the people themselves
well yeah
1:35:17
the point at the point I was
making was
1:35:19
that they can't even control
first of
1:35:22
all I wrote it got column
saying it's
1:35:23
fine for that Google goes into
China and
1:35:25
does whatever China you know
there's
1:35:27
just a business and what's the
point but
1:35:31
you got all these cuz you're in
Silicon
1:35:33
Valley and everybody's for some
I don't
1:35:35
know how this happened by the
way how
1:35:37
everybody became like a
left-wing Bernie
1:35:40
supporter and you kid really
the whole
1:35:43
area it's just overnight and so
they you
1:35:47
know so now Google has or
Google of
1:35:49
their employees are turning on
them I
1:35:51
would just fire every one of
the people
1:35:53
that had anything to do with
does they
1:35:54
got enough people to back you
know just
1:35:56
fire everybody he's gotta get
more firm
1:35:59
of course it would cause even
more
1:36:00
problems might kill itself yeah
that's a
1:36:03
mess when you have a PC culture
and you
1:36:07
have people fueled by pcs it's
like PC
1:36:10
squared people fueled by pcs
it's like PC
1:36:11
that's an incredible power you
got the
1:36:15
political correctness and
you've got a
1:36:17
computer and you can literally
force EC
1:36:22
square a-square you like it I
worked on
1:36:25
that it's one of those hey man
I just
1:36:31
took a hit off yes it could be
done
1:36:44
right it would have to be the
piece
1:36:45
you'd have to be in parents in
the
1:36:47
squared sign have to be after
that
1:36:48
because otherwise it's PC
squared oh
1:36:51
yeah we don't want that you
want to yeah
1:36:54
we that's to be mathematically
correct
1:36:56
yeah so now you know
1:37:00
and I just see people aren't
real it's
1:37:02
the same thing I said about
Alexandria
1:37:04
Ocasio Ortez everyone's
laughing about
1:37:07
her bring her out more of her
that's
1:37:09
exactly what they said about
Trump be
1:37:11
very very careful not to be you
don't to
1:37:12
necessarily be a genius on the
outside
1:37:15
you may be on the inside but
even who's
1:37:17
looking stupid you can still
become
1:37:19
president so just be ready and
you can
1:37:20
be stupid and still become
president so
1:37:22
all that's very possible but
the the
1:37:27
idea is missed on everybody
just like
1:37:30
Phil Mudd not know he's getting
paid to
1:37:32
be on CNN to talk about how he
never
1:37:34
uses his security clearance to
do stuff
1:37:37
like be on CNN so when you're
all saying
1:37:40
yeah we all get together we
just want to
1:37:42
ban somebody it can be done
continuously
1:37:44
one guy one he's not I hadn't
I've never
1:37:48
considered him a lefty but he's
liberal
1:37:49
and he's gets in trouble all
the time
1:37:51
it's part of his schtick is
Bill Maher
1:37:53
Bill Maher tries to defend the
free
1:37:56
speech of Alex Jones on his
show this
1:37:58
weekend and it had a panel of I
can't
1:38:03
remember the names all these
people
1:38:05
doesn't matter that he's just
listen to
1:38:08
what they're saying what their
true
1:38:09
beliefs are then you can
replace Alex
1:38:12
Jones for the No Agenda show it
doesn't
1:38:14
matter you know I've said
things that
1:38:16
are hateful I'm sure you can
find
1:38:17
something somewhere no problem
1:38:18
John even more so know my free
speech
1:38:25
for a minute because Alex Jones
who is
1:38:27
not my friend and who tells
crazy lies
1:38:29
about me is thrown off Twitter
I think
1:38:33
and Facebook and a few of the
platforms
1:38:35
I think he's gonna
1:38:38
[Applause] think he's gonna
1:38:39
well if you're a liberal you're
supposed
1:38:42
to be for free speech that's
free speech
1:38:44
for the speech you hate that's
what free
1:38:46
speech means we're losing the
thread of
1:38:49
the concepts that are important
to this
1:38:51
country if you care about the
real
1:38:52
American shit or you don't and
if you do
1:38:55
which goes for every side
listen you can
1:38:57
hear pain drop everyone's very
confused
1:38:59
the panel is puzzled
1:39:00
I don't like Alex Jones but
Alex Jones
1:39:03
gets to speak everybody gets to
speak
1:39:05
sure but he doesn't necessarily
get to
1:39:07
speak if a guy goes out and
this is not
1:39:12
opinion if he engages in vile
slandered
1:39:14
and fabrication about that about
1:39:16
children who were murdered at
Sandy Hook
1:39:18
and he harasses the parents of
children
1:39:20
who were murdered at Sandy Hook
1:39:24
Facebook Twitter none of them
have an
1:39:27
obligation to provide him a
platform
1:39:33
even more importantly you know
this is
1:39:36
not the internet 1996 where you
put up a
1:39:38
website and you know he's using
like the
1:39:40
public pipes like these
companies
1:39:41
Facebook YouTube Twitter these
are the
1:39:44
majority of time Americans
spent on the
1:39:46
internet right we're talking
these for
1:39:48
the air this is ABC CBS NBC
right and
1:39:50
making money off of him they're
running
1:39:52
ads against him so so you know
I agree
1:39:55
with you about free speech and
that's of
1:39:56
concern to me as well I also
don't think
1:39:59
those companies should be
profiting off
1:40:01
of what he's saying
1:40:06
you hear this listen carefully
Google
1:40:09
face bag Twitter Instagram
Pinterest all
1:40:12
you people MailChimp listen
carefully
1:40:15
they don't want you to profit
off of
1:40:17
people they don't agree with
that is
1:40:19
Alex Jones today that is Jen
briny
1:40:22
tomorrow right we're talking
these for
1:40:24
the air this is ABC CBS NBC
right and
1:40:27
they're making money off of him
they're
1:40:29
running ads against him so so
you know I
1:40:31
agree with you about free
speech and
1:40:33
that's of concern to me as well
I also
1:40:35
don't think those companies
should be
1:40:37
profiting off of what he's
saying
1:40:40
we all agree on that
1:40:43
the private enterprise does not
have any
1:40:46
obligation right if you make a
t-shirt
1:40:47
that says your mother sucks
cocks in
1:40:49
hell right
1:40:50
they don't have to sell it at
Baby Gap
1:40:52
you know we have to admit I
thought that
1:40:56
was pretty funny
1:41:02
as a concept we have to
understand that
1:41:05
the way to get rid of hateful
things is
1:41:07
to the sunlight best disinfect
it and a
1:41:09
good example is wait a second
the
1:41:11
alt-right rally yeah
1:41:12
what right to the Nazis the
remember
1:41:15
last year in Charlottesville's
they had
1:41:16
their rally again yes 20 people
showed
1:41:18
up okay not because we outlawed
it but
1:41:22
because we let it happen the
first time
1:41:23
and these mental midgets found
out oh
1:41:26
it's not so great when you do
this in
1:41:28
public because then you go back
to the
1:41:30
office and people don't like
yourself
1:41:31
yeah but she abandoned all Steve
1:41:33
bannon's on television tonight
into that
1:41:40
we got to get into the into our
safe
1:41:41
spaces because Steve bannon's on
1:41:43
television tonight can you
believe
1:41:45
that's happening in these
United States
1:41:46
of America okay the first time
and these
1:41:52
mental midgets found out oh
it's not so
1:41:55
great when you do this in
public because
1:41:57
then you go back to the office
and
1:41:58
people don't like yourself yeah
but she
1:42:00
abandoned Steve bannon's on
television
1:42:01
tonight yeah I mean the
Albright hasn't
1:42:04
disappeared and what a YouTube
algorithm
1:42:06
was doing was funneling people
to Alex
1:42:08
Jones like YouTube's algorithm
is the
1:42:10
crossing guards attention
YouTube you're
1:42:12
being blamed for your algo pay
attention
1:42:15
Silicon Valley pay attention
like
1:42:19
bringing people to the unite
the right
1:42:21
the problem companies are
having they
1:42:23
don't know where to draw the
line they
1:42:25
know there are lines and
there's some
1:42:28
British douche who worked for
Axios
1:42:30
scared of their own shadows
they make
1:42:32
the tech the tech execs come to
1:42:34
Washington DC with their tails
between
1:42:35
their legs desperately trying
to have
1:42:38
these off the records with us
reporters
1:42:39
what can we do to be more
feeling and
1:42:45
they're squeezed from all ends
scared of
1:42:47
the Conservatives because the
service
1:42:49
have these things all they're
banning
1:42:51
banning us and they're scared
of the
1:42:53
left because the left saying
you know
1:42:55
clamp down on anyone who says
anything
1:42:57
offensive and they they're
scared of
1:42:59
their own shadows they're in a
crouch
1:43:00
and they don't know what well
except for
1:43:02
that they do need to act to at
least
1:43:05
uphold their own Terms of
Service which
1:43:06
is what they keep changing the
the
1:43:11
concern I have to your point
bill about
1:43:13
more speech which is your point
right
1:43:15
Maude these platforms in 2016
44% of
1:43:21
people who identified as
left-of-center
1:43:24
did not post anything about
politics on
1:43:27
their social media feed 44% on
the
1:43:30
Republican side on the
conservative side
1:43:31
it was only 8% why didn't they
post
1:43:34
because they didn't want to be
trolled
1:43:35
harassed or abused these
platforms yes
1:43:39
they are quasi public squares
but they
1:43:42
have an obligation to make sure
that
1:43:44
people are not harassed when
they use
1:43:46
them and that's why I think
this is an
1:43:47
important step it's only a week
1:43:49
suspension for pete's sake it's
not like
1:43:51
it yes the end of my mouth I
mean the
1:43:54
Twitter thing is just ridiculous
1:43:56
this is we're gonna have Alex
Jones you
1:43:57
know off Twitter for a week so
he thinks
1:44:00
about what he's done I mean
what like
1:44:03
he's some sort of uh you know
nine year
1:44:05
old who is you know say hey I'm
really
1:44:07
sorry about that yeah the kids
really
1:44:09
are dead and I am cute just
don't forget
1:44:13
that and he's cute okay it's
always a
1:44:16
good out and I'm cute so I see
the power
1:44:21
that is going to we're going to
witness
1:44:23
on social networks is is going
to be
1:44:26
immense it is going to be
against the
1:44:28
social networks they they're
it's all
1:44:30
over this interview it's all
over it
1:44:32
they like they can't profit off
of it
1:44:35
all these things that are all
wrong
1:44:36
people are now attacking the
platform
1:44:38
which is very interesting you
know the
1:44:41
platform should not should be a
moveable
1:44:43
a movable platform platform the
platform
1:44:44
you can't do anything with a
platform
1:44:46
but forcing up adding worms
1:44:47
jump on it now I've seen this
movie
1:44:51
before I've seen the
centralization
1:44:53
decentralization and right on
cue we
1:44:55
talked about it on Thursday we
have if
1:44:58
you look at how RSS and web
sites and
1:45:02
actually Dave Winer had all the
right
1:45:03
ideas Aras
1:45:04
the RSS cloud which has now been
1:45:07
supplanted by the
1:45:10
pub/sub than the active active
pub which
1:45:14
is just another protocol but it
includes
1:45:16
it all it actually functions
more like
1:45:18
an email box that terms in the
protocol
1:45:20
even say inbox outbox that's a
great way
1:45:23
for decentralized systems to
talk to
1:45:25
each other the vision was good
but now
1:45:27
it's been modernized and when
Twitter
1:45:29
turned off pieces of their
streaming API
1:45:31
there was an action on Twitter
and it
1:45:34
was the divest day where I had
some
1:45:36
stupid hashtag and I saw a huge
influx
1:45:39
of people moving to mastodons
all we
1:45:42
need because I remember how
Twitter
1:45:43
started but besides the fact
that they
1:45:45
were a podcast the
infrastructure
1:45:47
Network first Twitter became
big was put
1:45:52
on the map for one reason do you
1:45:54
remember who showed up on
Twitter that
1:45:57
made Twitter the place to go
1:46:01
who Twitter the place to go
1:46:03
Koecher and do me more all
right exactly
1:46:05
not only were they two massive
1:46:07
celebrities of huge interest
Ashton
1:46:10
Kutcher give him full credit he
showed
1:46:12
everybody give him full credit
he showed
1:46:13
he set the standard look
there's there's
1:46:16
to me more whoa you know
there's the
1:46:18
meet with Bed Head
1:46:19
oh here's meaning the more
making out it
1:46:21
would have I was like this is
fantastic
1:46:23
then we got the audience created
1:46:25
hashtags the audience create we
call it
1:46:28
a pound sign actually the
Twitter people
1:46:31
wanted them to bandanas they
want to ban
1:46:35
hashtags RT we stood for
retweet the
1:46:39
first time you showed up on
Twitter like
1:46:40
what the hell is is RT why is
RT without
1:46:42
the Russian television idea
what is
1:46:44
going on yeah good point
1:46:46
so when you move to masterda
all we need
1:46:48
is one celebrity couple and I
know which
1:46:50
one I have in mind to set up
their own
1:46:52
instance and you'll see a huge
dent and
1:46:55
I am now go to no agenda player
calm
1:46:58
because this is a message for
yay Kanye
1:47:01
I am calling you as a true
patriot for
1:47:03
you and Kim kardashian-west
1:47:05
to go to Mastodon and leave
Twitter I
1:47:10
tell you the money
opportunities for you
1:47:13
are a thousandfold bigger than
whatever
1:47:16
Kim is getting as an influencer
on on
1:47:18
all of her social media right
now
1:47:20
because you'll have no one
standing
1:47:22
there for a handout or a piece
of the
1:47:24
action or 30 percent you'll
have free
1:47:26
reign the audience will go go
yay okay
1:47:34
well I think this is another
good
1:47:35
example of one of our it's just
an idea
1:47:44
this will go probably as far as
1:47:47
everything else we do well
we're only
1:47:49
good at one thing yes
apparently but
1:47:53
this was just a call to action
so this
1:47:55
this is not a business I'm
going to be
1:47:57
in is not a business I'm going
to be
1:47:58
I'm just all and I'm sure that
you're
1:48:03
gonna get this maybe maybe
1:48:09
okay okay we got it we got it
we got it
1:48:11
let me see I did get some oh
did you see
1:48:14
the the bus stop signs in
London no oh
1:48:19
so face bag who of course are
worried oh
1:48:22
yes no I've seen these signs
these are
1:48:23
the big giant signs that say
yeah that
1:48:25
are I think they're parodies
and they're
1:48:28
no no no no no calling up no
it's better
1:48:30
than that face bag has an ad
campaign
1:48:35
and and you know big letters
fake news
1:48:40
is not our friend and then
underneath
1:48:43
they what we don't even know
what it
1:48:45
said originally because people
have gone
1:48:47
out and pasted in the same
large letter
1:48:49
type the following paragraph
after fake
1:48:53
news is not our friend then all
of a
1:48:56
sudden new is it's a great
revenue
1:48:58
source yes
1:49:00
next one data misuse is not our
friend
1:49:03
and underneath that it's it's
our
1:49:05
business model I mean this is
not only
1:49:08
is it fantastically funny it's
gorilla
1:49:10
it is backfiring on their
marketing
1:49:13
they're already afraid they
never
1:49:16
advertise but when did Facebook
ever
1:49:19
advertise but when did Facebook
ever
1:49:21
sighs so now didn't have to
1:49:24
ever since the congressional
hearings
1:49:26
they've been advertising and so
now
1:49:28
they're trying to say hey you
know we're
1:49:30
we're good you know we're all
good guys
1:49:32
come over here hang out with us
and
1:49:34
people are vandalizing their
entire
1:49:36
campaign this is beautiful this
to me is
1:49:39
the show right here this is the
show
1:49:44
okay then I had last thing oh
yes I got
1:49:47
a note
1:49:49
about the firewall issues how
this
1:49:53
trickles down when when someone
when
1:49:55
virtue signaling is in place
and Apple
1:49:58
says get him off and the social
networks
1:50:00
that get him off then the
firewall
1:50:03
companies like Palo a low net
Palo Alto
1:50:05
Networks start putting things
on their
1:50:08
block list and one of our
producers
1:50:11
where it works there he's an
engineer
1:50:13
and tries to help companies
stop all
1:50:16
these breaches you talk about
in the
1:50:19
show you said Alex Jones site
was
1:50:21
classified as questionable and
enhanced
1:50:23
blocked in the palo olive net
with Paolo
1:50:27
Alto Networks firewall system
which goes
1:50:31
apparently to thousands of
companies our
1:50:33
definition of questionable is
as below
1:50:35
that we define the URL based on
a
1:50:38
variety of different signals
first we
1:50:42
have tools that try and
automatically
1:50:44
define the category next users
can
1:50:47
submit for overrides to request
changes
1:50:51
to the categories which is what
looks
1:50:52
like happened in this case
automated
1:50:55
systems initially vet this then
it is
1:50:58
manually inspected by humans
1:51:00
I guess Palo Alto Networks no
offense
1:51:03
but has no AI either automated
systems
1:51:07
initially vet this then it's a
manually
1:51:09
inspected by humans it looks
like this
1:51:11
site has been classified as a
new site
1:51:13
recently until it was reported
for other
1:51:15
things see this is the problem
is the
1:51:17
reporting you have this
feedback loop it
1:51:20
seems like the compromise
between the
1:51:21
suggestions was to move it to
1:51:23
questionable instead of for
example
1:51:25
extreme extremism or hate speech
1:51:27
customers can request
reclassification
1:51:30
and provide rationale to argue
why it
1:51:32
should be different next a
customer
1:51:34
defines what they want to what
actually
1:51:37
want for each category if
something is
1:51:39
questionable they might allow it
1:51:41
depending on corporate policy
where
1:51:42
something like extremism will
probably
1:51:44
be a block so now you have all
of these
1:51:47
little decisions that are made
between
1:51:49
some skip logic and some greps
grep
1:51:52
commands okay this may be a
signal and
1:51:56
then a human being looks at it
makes a
1:51:59
classification than other
customers who
1:52:01
of course you know one company
to the
1:52:02
next level
1:52:03
an idea and it starts to get
categorized
1:52:06
and before you know he just got
a gray
1:52:08
mass of mush and all you can
see is yes
1:52:14
gives me the idea is it a
profitable and
1:52:18
an operation you know you
talked about
1:52:19
last show you talked about this
woman
1:52:21
with a block list yeah the
blocks
1:52:24
together a good idea you get
started to
1:52:27
think about this is a kind of a
company
1:52:28
of me it matters like operation
that's
1:52:30
got more of a octopus's
structure mmm so
1:52:35
you have your your main company
that is
1:52:37
going to use its ability to
find locate
1:52:41
certain kinds of operations
that you
1:52:43
want to shut down through
normal means
1:52:46
and so you you create these
boycott
1:52:49
lists which you could do we
have a
1:52:51
variety of them you could have
instead
1:52:53
of the one list that woman has
on
1:52:54
Twitter you could have maybe ten
1:52:55
different lists that if you
don't like
1:52:57
this and just subscribe to this
list you
1:53:00
put the button in it you get
the blocks
1:53:01
go into play with the from the
app
1:53:04
mm-hmm but meanwhile you have
this
1:53:07
octopus structure so if
something like
1:53:09
you get that you get Jones
kicked off of
1:53:11
the or put on a black list
someplace and
1:53:13
then you have people commenting
from the
1:53:17
different tentacles it's coming
in from
1:53:19
left and right it could only be
a small
1:53:21
team you don't need a lot of
people I
1:53:22
mean the Russians are doing
this with a
1:53:23
lot of people I think you do
with a
1:53:25
small team that well-paid team
who are
1:53:28
online all the time and you can
even
1:53:30
have some people in India or
elsewhere
1:53:31
to do this so we're not racist
it's fine
1:53:34
and you go in there and you can
1:53:37
reconfirm to go it's great that
you did
1:53:39
this you should block them and
that's
1:53:41
just if something starts to
come out of
1:53:43
it where they they have they're
never
1:53:45
gonna have an organized group
like you
1:53:47
would be mmm it with the octopus
1:53:49
operation which is super
organized or
1:53:52
when they cuz it's all nebulous
nobody
1:53:54
knows anybody right laters
coming in
1:53:57
from left field so what you're
saying is
1:53:59
the need for an organization
that the
1:54:01
octopus org sits on the top and
really
1:54:04
Corral's the message of all
these people
1:54:06
provides them the feedback loop
and
1:54:09
makes them feel good is that
what you're
1:54:10
saying well there's not much
more than
1:54:12
that it directs its efforts
towards
1:54:18
it's all politically motivated
so if
1:54:19
you're running a campaign for
some you
1:54:22
you work with the campaign for
example
1:54:23
is somebody running for the
Senate and
1:54:26
you do everything you can to to
to block
1:54:29
stifled is a dirty tricks
operation is
1:54:32
what it amounts to the Rogers
don't you
1:54:34
do you can't manage something
like that
1:54:37
but I mean it would be he would
be like
1:54:39
one of the guys would employ
because
1:54:41
he'd have ideas oh yeah of
course they
1:54:46
have great ideas and so you'd
have
1:54:49
actual commercial operation
they'd be
1:54:51
consultants and they would do
these
1:54:54
these dirty tricks and it would
be
1:54:56
because the way these things
come in the
1:54:57
way he described the Palo Alto
Networks
1:54:59
thing Oh somebody comes in and
they
1:55:01
asked for all right can you
look at this
1:55:03
again because I I think he
should be
1:55:05
these you should I should be
shouldn't
1:55:07
be on the blacklist well you
could have
1:55:08
ten people saying you should be
on the
1:55:10
blacklist people saying you
should be on the
1:55:11
I mean you could organize and
in fact if
1:55:13
this isn't organized already I'm
1:55:15
actually I'm actually surprised
I'd be
1:55:17
surprised I've talked to put
public
1:55:19
relations companies about these
ideas
1:55:21
and they're all like well you
know I
1:55:23
started really a great thing
and they'd
1:55:25
rather go off and do native
advertising
1:55:27
because there's a lot of money
in that
1:55:28
is as much money in this I
think so too
1:55:31
and that is actually something
we could
1:55:33
I mean you're just creating
another
1:55:34
value networks not that hard
1:55:36
yeah the message goes out hey
everyone
1:55:39
report this report this click
on report
1:55:41
report this yeah you'd have out
you
1:55:43
right you'd have a system of
messaging
1:55:46
to get the word out mm-hmm
bless you
1:55:50
well that's the beauty of it we
have
1:55:52
that system it's called Twitter
we just
1:55:53
use Twitter well you can use
the IRC to
1:55:56
feel it's more fun it's more
fun to use
1:55:58
themselves against themselves
well maybe
1:56:00
yeah that's funny that's funny
1:56:02
I'd like that
1:56:04
but I think as you know it's
something
1:56:05
to consider you know you get it
you need
1:56:07
you to need a good team a core
team and
1:56:09
you could create this octopus
structure
1:56:11
and you can start pushing
people around
1:56:13
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1:56:25
before we take our break here
you know
1:56:30
I've been rather obsessed with
going ot
1:56:32
G off the grid trying to we
have not had
1:56:36
a report for some time
1:56:37
yes well I'm extremely pleased
still
1:56:39
momentarily with the Kyocera
ultra what
1:56:45
does it take Eevee now ultra
during the
1:56:50
dura for seventy ten whatever
it is
1:56:53
because as a modern web browser
you can
1:56:55
do pretty much everything you
need to do
1:56:56
in a modern web browser you
don't need
1:56:58
to have all the apps and it
also doesn't
1:57:01
distract you because I can only
get text
1:57:03
messages or phone calls nothing
else
1:57:04
blings bloops bloops or flops
but the
1:57:07
problems are still rife
throughout our
1:57:09
world the largest lifeguard
organization
1:57:13
the DLR G is warning there's a
growing
1:57:16
number of child drownings this
summer
1:57:18
and that is linked to parents
not paying
1:57:21
attention because they're on
their
1:57:23
smartphones because they're on
their
1:57:27
sad is this that's pathetic and
I did
1:57:30
doesn't surprise me yes
1:57:34
another OTG in Reverse ie
1:57:37
a very bad thing is happening
in the
1:57:40
Netherlands very bad thing is
happening in the
1:57:42
that more and more people are
concerned
1:57:45
for their privacy and they when
they're
1:57:47
at organizations such as the
Harlem
1:57:49
coolin Airy Festival and the
Culinary
1:57:52
Festival is now it's like a
Food Fair I
1:57:54
guess it's in Harlem and the
organizers
1:57:58
you know a lot of people
apparently who
1:58:00
go to seminars and and you know
fairs
1:58:02
and events saying you know I
really
1:58:04
don't want to be photographed
and put on
1:58:07
social media which is I say
that to
1:58:11
people to well they're the
Dutch and
1:58:13
they have come up with a
fabulous idea
1:58:16
upon registration and not this
is truth
1:58:19
its fact upon registration you
check a
1:58:23
box say no I do not want to be
in photos
1:58:26
on social media and they give
you a red
1:58:28
dot to put on your head
1:58:34
once you put them put a yellow
cross on
1:58:37
your shoulder or a bull's-eye
for that
1:58:41
matter a red dot because then
the AI can
1:58:45
scan that and say oh we can't
post this
1:58:48
one because there's a red dot
person in
1:58:50
there because there's a red dot
person in
1:58:51
is that great or what that
right there
1:59:00
is another fabulous opportunity
cuz the
1:59:03
other dot of course should have
an RFID
1:59:05
chip in it all kinds of cool
stuff we
1:59:08
dragged them anyway
1:59:13
I do see a Silicon Valley is
the enemy
1:59:15
of me I don't want them
tracking me or
1:59:18
as little as possible and I was
thumbing
1:59:20
through my copy of Sun Tzu's
the art of
1:59:22
war over the weekend and I was
reminded
1:59:25
that I'm on the right path
because he
1:59:28
wrote when the enemy is bigger
than you
1:59:31
be invisible
1:59:33
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1:59:39
[Music] invisible
1:59:46
well we had a lot of donors
invisible
1:59:49
this week yeah I'm kidding
1:59:52
but we do have a few people to
thank
1:59:54
including area karachi karachi
karachi
1:59:58
karachi Eri and that would be
and this
2:00:05
is actually a donation for a
husband for
2:00:07
her husband Brian Mickey fifty
first
2:00:10
list fifty first today yes
2:00:14
it will make his day you know
that's so
2:00:16
nice when you do that for your
man sub
2:00:20
sabine or sabina Trumpler
subunit a
2:00:24
Templar troop euler Trumpler
must be a
2:00:27
shitty name in germany right
now Tom
2:00:30
book within bleached land oh oh
it's
2:00:33
actually it's a themed Trumpler
it's
2:00:36
this is his wife's paypal Oh
making
2:00:41
himself invisible from Hamburg
making
2:00:44
himself nothing 101 dollars in
one cent
2:00:49
arey was 150 anonymous 101
dollars in
2:00:52
one sense he said Matthew
Stegman 101
2:00:57
dollars in one sense who says
he may not
2:00:59
be able to for the eight one
eight one
2:01:01
eight of course nobody could
know of
2:01:02
course not
2:01:03
William begged in the days and
days of
2:01:06
yore we would have people that
would
2:01:08
take us up on these offers
William Baga
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I would say it has a slight -
homophobic
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sound to it that maybe it
shouldn't be
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used yes I understand what
you're saying
2:06:50
let me see oh yes the electoral
college
2:06:53
was discussed on c-span the
other day
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from a guy I know personally he
wants to
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get rid of it of course and I
respect
2:07:03
this guy I've worked with him I
fought
2:07:05
lawsuits for things he believes
in and
2:07:07
won in that regard Creative
Commons as
2:07:11
far as I know I was the first
to a
2:07:13
challenge a copyright in court
to uphold
2:07:16
Creative Commons and it was
awarded and
2:07:18
Professor Lawrence Lessig very
well I'm
2:07:23
sure and I've always liked the
guy
2:07:25
although I do remember we got
in some
2:07:27
little scrape some online
back-and-forth
2:07:30
bitching about something I
can't really
2:07:31
hear he actually enjoys that
okay well I
2:07:36
recall in the previous election
he was
2:07:39
gonna be the candidate you know
hey give
2:07:41
me all your money and then I'll
call ya
2:07:44
and I'll have a really smart
person as
2:07:46
vice president I'll resign then
he can
2:07:48
be or she can become president
so now he
2:07:51
wants to get the convention
together to
2:07:54
create an amendment to the
Constitution
2:07:57
to abolish the Electoral
College and we
2:08:02
have so many international
listeners and
2:08:03
this is such a topic because
it's coming
2:08:05
back apparently because he's
trying to
2:08:07
make this happen and he's
predicted I
2:08:11
would like you to a bridge
that's what I
2:08:18
could say to a bridge the the
choice of
2:08:22
an electoral college and its
function so
2:08:25
that we can then understand if
it will
2:08:28
be good or not to get rid of it
and why
2:08:29
it's unique well the last
election was a
2:08:32
proof that the electoral
college does
2:08:35
have a function and that is to
keep one
2:08:39
state with too many people and
too many
2:08:41
too many votes from hogging the
in other
2:08:45
words here's what happened in
the last
2:08:46
election Hillary Clinton won
the popular
2:08:50
vote but only because and she
wanted by
2:08:52
about 4 million people but only
because
2:08:54
Trump was shut out of
California was not
2:08:56
really allowed to speak and so
she won
2:08:59
that those extra 4 million
people came
2:09:01
from one state California the
rest of it
2:09:05
was spread out in such a way
that I have
2:09:07
to stop I'm sorry I think one
of the
2:09:09
main problems is right there is
that
2:09:11
most people and most of those
would be
2:09:13
American don't understand the
model of
2:09:16
the states I think they just
think murca
2:09:19
one big country yeah no it's
not no
2:09:22
every state is rizzo every
state for the
2:09:24
international listeners every
state is
2:09:26
governed separately laws some
states you
2:09:31
can drink well used to be some
straits
2:09:33
you could drink when you were
18 others
2:09:35
21 different driving rules all
kinds of
2:09:38
things that
2:09:39
we might have sex various yes
oh yes
2:09:42
that's still in play
2:09:44
the Constitution the only job
the
2:09:47
Constitution has is to restrict
the
2:09:49
federal government to things
they can
2:09:51
and will really can't do but
the only
2:09:53
things they can meddle in and
everything
2:09:56
else everything else is
supposed to be
2:09:59
governed by the states that's
been mmm
2:10:02
gotten very grey over the years
through
2:10:06
a lot of social programs it's
not very
2:10:08
clear anymore but people are
forgetting
2:10:09
that the states have their own
laws
2:10:11
for instance I'm in a state and
I've
2:10:14
petitioned my government
frequently
2:10:16
where marijuana is illegal and
we're
2:10:19
gonna get it illegal in Texas
and if you
2:10:21
don't like that if you if you
think guys
2:10:23
but thicket is mad a case about
movies
2:10:25
then you can either risk going
to jail
2:10:27
or leave the state go to another
2:10:29
friendly state or 420 friendly
Shire
2:10:32
West Coast is legal so so the
idea is
2:10:38
electoral college was set up to
give it
2:10:41
just a fixed number of votes
where each
2:10:45
representing various states and
so if
2:10:48
you won because I don't know
what
2:10:50
California is but let's say
California
2:10:51
has 80 votes if California
votes for a
2:10:54
Hillary and she wins by one
vote all 80
2:10:58
votes go to Hillary if they
vote for
2:11:01
California and she wins by 4
million
2:11:05
votes those same 80 votes that
no more
2:11:08
go to Hillary just Oh same 80
and so the
2:11:11
problem is you don't want these
states
2:11:12
that are lopsided in favor of
one
2:11:15
candidate over another kind of
stuff in
2:11:18
the ballot
2:11:18
now the arts the argument that
comes
2:11:21
from in this particular case
from people
2:11:24
who wanted Hillary to win is
how is it
2:11:26
possible that a state like
Montana gets
2:11:30
to have equal representation in
the
2:11:34
Senate have equal
representation in the
2:11:34
and how can it be that they
have even
2:11:39
that many electoral votes
2:11:40
well the electoral votes are
based on
2:11:43
the population of the state so
that
2:11:44
Montana doesn't have more
electoral
2:11:46
notes than they deserve no but
once okay
2:11:50
continue than they deserve no
but once okay
2:11:52
and so did the idea is to keep
one state
2:11:54
from dominating the hope you
know the
2:11:56
the whole system
2:11:57
we don't want California
picking our
2:12:00
presidents which it would have
done if
2:12:03
Hillary had one
2:12:07
okay that's it it's all there
is to it
2:12:09
it's not that complicated
2:12:10
well the way
2:12:12
I always like to look at it is
the
2:12:15
system was put in place in case
we had
2:12:17
some form of mass hysteria
outbreak and
2:12:20
and people were trying to bully
in some
2:12:23
nutjob which is exactly what
people are
2:12:26
saying is what it would it
allowed
2:12:28
whereas I kept a criminal from
being
2:12:33
president exactly so it
actually worked
2:12:37
incredibly well but why
professor Lessig
2:12:41
fails to see this unit used a
big Hill
2:12:44
bot he's a he's a law guy I
mean this is
2:12:49
he's a professor of law a very
smart of
2:12:52
huge respect does he not know
the the
2:12:55
origins of the of the electoral
college
2:12:57
he knows everything but as far
as he's
2:12:59
concerned it doesn't work right
because
2:13:01
Hillary didn't win so he's a
he's dumb
2:13:04
no it's not dumb he's conniving
oh okay
2:13:09
well here's Damocles a real
hardcore
2:13:11
Democrat I know but to throw
your
2:13:14
credibility as a constitutional
scholar
2:13:16
into the wind by saying you're
you're
2:13:19
joking when you say this right
2:13:22
no he's making himself look
good how are
2:13:27
you kidding
2:13:28
history will be the judge of
that it's
2:13:31
incredibly difficult to imagine
our
2:13:33
Constitution being amended this
is a
2:13:35
general problem not just as it
affects
2:13:37
the the electoral college and
so you
2:13:42
know what we're tried to do is
the best
2:13:44
we can
2:13:45
given that really critical
constraints
2:13:47
on our constitutional process
with the
2:13:49
state compact how many states
will be
2:13:51
needed to make that change and
how many
2:13:53
states have signed on so the
compact is
2:13:58
triggered when the equivalent
of 270
2:14:01
electoral when the equivalent
of 270
2:14:01
have joined and right now we
have 12s
2:14:05
there are 12 states
representing a
2:14:07
hundred and sixty-five electors
that
2:14:09
have joined but the problem is
they've
2:14:12
kind of hit a very thick red
wall
2:14:14
because there's not yet a
solidly
2:14:17
Republican state that has
joined the
2:14:20
compact now that could change
people are
2:14:22
thinking about trying to bring
referenda
2:14:24
in states that allow referenda
because
2:14:26
what we know is that the public
2:14:28
overwhelmingly supports the
idea of a
2:14:32
president who actually
represents all of
2:14:33
America really know is the
public is
2:14:36
deeply skeptical as your
earlier callers
2:14:38
were of this electoral college
system
2:14:40
that seems to be just a random
number
2:14:43
generator increasingly in this
election
2:14:46
of our president so why people
could
2:14:48
decide I think it would be an
easy
2:14:49
question but we depend upon
these
2:14:51
politicians to bring the
national
2:14:53
popular vote compact to
fruition and and
2:14:55
they and despite the incredibly
hard
2:14:57
work of many people literally
since Bush
2:14:59
versus gore that still has not
come to
2:15:02
fruition I think you should be
stripped
2:15:05
of his clearance who the hell
knows he
2:15:12
does that to me that's just I
mean I'm
2:15:15
sorry he's throwing his
credentials to
2:15:18
the wind it's sour grapes well
yeah all
2:15:22
I know is he wouldn't be saying
any give
2:15:24
it ask him this well if if do
you
2:15:28
remember before the election
there was
2:15:29
no road to 270 for Donald Trump
no Road
2:15:33
and the electoral colleges
swing it was
2:15:36
gonna be a landslide as some of
these
2:15:38
guys would says lastly the
biggest ever
2:15:40
and the Republican Party was
gonna be
2:15:41
destroyed I would you if that
had
2:15:45
happened uh-huh
2:15:46
would you still be doing this
2:15:49
wait what do you mean in other
words if
2:15:52
she Hilary's gotten in with a
landslide
2:15:53
hitting nearly destroying the
Republican
2:15:55
Party yeah because there was no
road to
2:15:57
270 right would you still be on
this
2:16:00
bandwagon trying to get rid of
the
2:16:01
electoral college no of course
not
2:16:03
of course not that's not that I
2:16:06
understand John thanks but I
don't
2:16:08
understand how someone can just
say this
2:16:13
Hajis get the guy you know he
has
2:16:15
standing had standing it still
does with
2:16:18
his group yeah with his group
okay hi
2:16:22
let's face when he ran is for
president
2:16:25
with this cockamamie scheme
come on I
2:16:29
mean you know that's kind of a
2:16:30
credibility issue there that
idea I
2:16:32
think we laughed about it then
too
2:16:34
I think it probably had a
simpler
2:16:36
lead-in nutjob Elon Musk is
Zoey long I
2:16:44
should have had that one ready
did an
2:16:47
interview have had that one
ready did an
2:16:50
about his tweet you know taking
the
2:16:52
company private at oh yeah into
this you
2:16:57
can't do that it's wrong yeah
I'll do it
2:17:01
did you read did you read the
New York
2:17:03
Times interview no I just read
about it
2:17:05
oh yeah even mentions he was on
ambien
2:17:07
and yeah yeah no this is really
hurt the
2:17:10
company says stock Oh
immediately and
2:17:12
and out today came out there
was um
2:17:16
Azealia Banks who was a hip hop
hip
2:17:21
hopper she was tweeting that
she was at
2:17:23
Ilan's house and I guess she's
friends
2:17:26
with her wife and said I have
some of
2:17:30
the tweets here I wait around
all
2:17:32
weekend while Grimes coddled her
2:17:34
boyfriend for being too stupid
to know
2:17:36
not to go on Twitter while on
acid
2:17:40
I saw him in the kitchen
tucking his
2:17:43
tail in between his legs
scrounging for
2:17:45
investors to cover his after
ass after
2:17:48
that tweet this is what
Bankston told
2:17:50
The Business Insider of her
meeting with
2:17:52
the must last weekend he was
stressed
2:17:54
and red in the face
2:17:57
now of course must denied all
of this
2:17:59
but a little report from CNBC
who were
2:18:02
just baffled just baffled by
the price
2:18:05
of 4/20 just baffled by it why
kappa i
2:18:08
mean there there are some very
to me
2:18:11
very interesting but also
troubling
2:18:13
revelations in that interview
like let's
2:18:15
talk about the $420 prize I
mean he just
2:18:20
glanced at the stock price
tacked on 20%
2:18:23
and then rounded it up to 420
because of
2:18:26
putting put karma and the fact
that
2:18:28
that's like national marijuana
day he
2:18:31
acknowledged that that's in the
2:18:32
interview no I the way I read
it I
2:18:34
couldn't save he's explicitly
referenced
2:18:37
marijuana but it was written
for us to
2:18:39
draw that conclusion
2:18:45
dude let's split
2:18:47
okay good and I think you know
I can
2:18:50
imagine you know corporate
finance
2:18:53
students across America whose
years
2:18:55
learning how to do discounted
cash flow
2:18:57
we'll look at that and say you
know what
2:19:00
thought she had a thing at the
end there
2:19:02
yeah retina so but he's baffled
oh my
2:19:05
god now this kind of breaks my
whole
2:19:08
assumption that Elan was the is
the
2:19:11
golden child of the
intelligence and no
2:19:15
no I'm not I'm not backing off
because
2:19:18
if he gets through all this and
I still
2:19:21
think he'll take the company
private at
2:19:22
four-twenty then I think then
we'll all
2:19:24
have to say I was right
2:19:25
I'm still thinking look I'm
writing it
2:19:28
down I'm gonna tell was right
yes just
2:19:32
you just do that you just call
me any
2:19:34
time you want I will and just
say hey
2:19:38
Bryce you're right at 4:20 at
4:20
2:19:42
please write down the 420 420
or better
2:19:52
he's he's in a heap of trouble
2:19:56
yeah it sure looks like it by
the way
2:19:58
would you want to go on a
rocket with
2:20:00
him right now oh man I think he
goes on
2:20:03
a rocket every week yes now
amidst all
2:20:08
of this and this was a just a
fan
2:20:11
actually two-parter fantastic a
couple
2:20:16
of quotes this is Michael
Pillsbury he's
2:20:19
a big defense guy I think in
the bush
2:20:21
he was undersecretary for a
department
2:20:23
of defense he's Rand the
2:20:25
military-industrial complex from
2:20:27
beginning to end older guy gray
Greg I
2:20:29
don't think he has any direct
2:20:33
intelligence involvement but he
has
2:20:35
clearance trust me he's got
clearance
2:20:37
and he's out there talking for
a reason
2:20:38
so we're not going to be hood
when you a
2:20:42
blue shirt he's got gray hair
and don't
2:20:46
remember if it was a blue maybe
it was
2:20:50
right here
2:20:51
well he's now of course he runs
a
2:20:53
think-tank now so he gets to go
out
2:20:55
there with his credentials but
whether
2:20:59
he believes it or not I thought
his
2:21:01
assertions over what China
thinks of
2:21:03
President Trump were
interesting there
2:21:06
was a surprising piece written
by a
2:21:09
Chinese expert in the Financial
Times
2:21:10
recently that described the
Chinese
2:21:13
leadership some view of Donald
Trump and
2:21:15
and it came as I think
something is a
2:21:18
surprise if you follow the news
coverage
2:21:19
of Trump in this country it said
2:21:20
essentially Chinese leadership
believes
2:21:22
that our president is playing a
kind of
2:21:25
three-dimensional chess he's a
brilliant
2:21:26
tactician and that they fear
he's out
2:21:29
flanking them strategically is
do you
2:21:31
think that's right yes I was in
Beijing
2:21:33
a week ago I think I heard
pretty much
2:21:35
the same things that they think
2:21:36
President Trump is basically the
2:21:39
superior president out of the
last five
2:21:42
or six sarahx dealt with China
and he's
2:21:45
done the most alter the
relationship
2:21:46
he's really got their attention
they're
2:21:49
quite concerned that there's
something
2:21:50
deeper going on than they're
aware of so
2:21:53
you get this sense that the
Chinese
2:21:55
leadership and the advisors to
the
2:21:57
leadership are afraid of being
2:21:59
outsmarted by President Trump
2:22:01
he's distinguished himself is
fighting
2:22:04
back at all number one number
two the
2:22:07
details and the depth of his
allegations
2:22:09
in the several White House
reports he's
2:22:12
released are really quite
stunning to
2:22:14
the Chinese he is basically
alleging
2:22:17
that they stole their way to
the top
2:22:18
they've had forcible technology
2:22:20
transfers from US companies
these
2:22:23
outright stolen technology and
that they
2:22:26
they sort of have an
illegitimate path
2:22:29
to be number two in the world
that he
2:22:33
would say these kinds of things
2:22:34
especially this term is used in
some
2:22:36
reports economic warfare the
China is
2:22:39
committing economic warfare
against
2:22:41
America and other countries
this is
2:22:43
really quite astonishing to
them they're
2:22:45
used to being if you will
Connells or
2:22:48
spoken politely to so this is
really
2:22:51
quite a shock he's working I
think I
2:22:54
find that to be very interesting
2:22:57
yeah that's anyone here in the
2:22:58
mainstream media what was at
CNBC
2:23:00
no that was Tucker Carlson was
on Fox of
2:23:02
course on Fox
2:23:03
Tucker got that out yes
interest the guy
2:23:05
actually had a funny gaffe in
the same
2:23:09
little interview do you think
that so
2:23:11
far this change in our attitude
toward
2:23:13
China has helped unite him by
the way
2:23:15
his his gaffe will prove that
the No
2:23:18
Agenda show mind control works
states
2:23:21
have we gotten something out of
this
2:23:23
well it's kind of a strange
reaction but
2:23:27
we've certainly got the
attention of the
2:23:28
European Union the European
Union
2:23:30
Commissioner mr. Juncker came
here less
2:23:34
than a month ago it works it
works we've
2:23:37
programmed him to say drunker
instead of
2:23:39
Juncker Wow
2:23:45
[Music] Wow
2:23:46
Rutger is not really close to
younger
2:23:49
that's not really the same you
know I
2:23:52
was I was watching that in bed
last
2:23:56
night on the on the hearing aid
so you
2:23:58
know he's you can't hear any
God just
2:23:59
hear and I laugh so loud Tina
woke up I
2:24:03
could not believe I should not
believe
2:24:06
it oh by the way just want to
say don't
2:24:10
bother hearing aids so here's
Silicon
2:24:12
Valley for you so if I have
these
2:24:14
hearing aids Apple was the
first one to
2:24:15
come out with smartphone
integration for
2:24:18
streaming to your hearing aids
called
2:24:20
MFI made for iPhone I believe
it's an
2:24:22
open protocol I believe it's
published I
2:24:24
believe anyone can use it and
it's a
2:24:27
part of the Bluetooth high-five
2:24:29
streaming spec something
2:24:32
and there's a number of hearing
aid
2:24:35
manufacturers who you know
immediately
2:24:37
well not okay great we're
programming
2:24:38
for this we're good to go
Google comes
2:24:41
out with announcement yesterday
yeah
2:24:43
we're gonna support hearing
aids but it
2:24:44
can be a completely different
standard
2:24:46
and it's only gonna work on
these
2:24:47
hearing aids over here and what
I hate
2:24:51
these people
2:24:53
well that's pretty douchey that
is that
2:24:56
is the Google way I have to say
Apple is
2:25:00
very good at it themselves but
they
2:25:01
jumped on and supported this
and I guess
2:25:03
you get some first rights we're
talking
2:25:05
about a handicap an actual
medical issue
2:25:08
that you're now going to screw
with
2:25:10
people on I think I have an ad
a defense
2:25:14
here on I think I have an ad a
defense
2:25:15
yeah you do this might be
actionable yes
2:25:18
class you do this might be
actionable yes
2:25:20
you you do this might be
actionable yes
2:25:22
some actionable I know we got
lawyers
2:25:24
out there we got we got pink
invalid
2:25:27
lawyers what would he call when
you do a
2:25:31
hired he was law enforcement
man he
2:25:35
wasn't a lawyer he was the
Chinese the
2:25:39
horowitz just got back from
China he was
2:25:41
grilling people over there and
this is
2:25:43
last show but he I'm lucky to
get back
2:25:46
then he said what do you think
of our
2:25:53
president Trump and they said
all we
2:25:56
think is great because he's
doing
2:25:58
something about immigration the
Chinese
2:26:00
seem to be concerned about our
2:26:02
immigration policies so
interesting huh
2:26:04
oh I know why of course they're
because
2:26:06
they're concerned because they
don't
2:26:09
want the cheap labor to go to
factories
2:26:11
in America stuff like that yeah
but they
2:26:15
like him so they've you know
it's not
2:26:16
like if you go to Europe and
started
2:26:18
asking about Trump because the
Europeans
2:26:20
are part of the same the same
structural
2:26:23
news I mean the Chinese news is
not
2:26:26
pushed around by the New York
Times
2:26:29
the European news just
translates the
2:26:33
New York Times that's all that
I look at
2:26:37
the headlines every morning
there's an
2:26:39
email I get has all the Dutch
newspapers
2:26:41
from the left to the right to
the
2:26:43
intelligent the quasi and
everything in
2:26:45
between to the gossip rags the
headlines
2:26:48
are exactly the same as in the
United
2:26:51
States sure there's some local
flavor in
2:26:53
color for a couple of stories
you know
2:26:55
dog bites man a man died with
all the
2:26:59
bites dog but it all of its
like Trump
2:27:01
Yanks clearance oh there's no
journalism
2:27:08
in the EU
2:27:09
well there is but it's a lot of
2:27:10
copy-paste work and just
translating and
2:27:13
why wouldn't you you know yeah
you beer
2:27:15
up nice and early compared to
the US you
2:27:17
got the overnight stories boom
it's good
2:27:19
for a whole new cycle okay time
for
2:27:21
coffee a whole new cycle okay
time for
2:27:23
all right so I have one clip
since you
2:27:25
got the drunker thing I got to
play this
2:27:27
and this is this is woman she's
kind of
2:27:30
a substitute ER and she's on
CBS she's a
2:27:32
professional journalist she's
not a
2:27:35
spring chicken Meg Oliver and
she is on
2:27:40
the network and this is this I
don't
2:27:42
have the other clip but I've
caught her
2:27:43
doing this twice this is a
segment from
2:27:46
a from a package that she put
together
2:27:49
and I was just a short piece oh
sorry
2:27:53
wait and I'm just gonna say I
want you
2:27:54
to see if you can catch what
really
2:27:55
galls me about them about this
her
2:27:58
unusual journey started in 2013
Grassley
2:28:01
was an art major at the
University of
2:28:03
Montana when she visited the
zoological
2:28:06
museum on campus I mean
completely
2:28:08
overwhelmed with yes it would be
2:28:11
zoological she has done this
before does
2:28:16
no one have no one correcting
people I
2:28:18
don't know what if they know
that you
2:28:20
saw how you pronounce the word
or if
2:28:22
they CBS doesn't care I think
this is
2:28:24
shoddy at the network national
network
2:28:28
level that says zoology is is
2:28:32
unexcusable as inexcusable as
its
2:28:34
grounds for firing push her
over to
2:28:36
MSNBC where she can get away
with that
2:28:38
stuff yeah that that by the way
is an
2:28:42
actual service this show could
provide
2:28:43
if anyone needs a service that
will
2:28:46
correct stupid things you're on
air
2:28:48
people say where your guys
2:28:51
yeah well it's a consulting
company we
2:28:54
have that people should be
taking
2:28:56
advantage of they don't as
usual usual
2:29:01
I you know I came across a
conspiracy
2:29:03
theory that I like very much
that I want
2:29:05
yeah in fact I'll just do I'll
just do a
2:29:09
little theremin it hurts so
much now
2:29:20
we've discussed the Communist
Manifesto
2:29:22
before on the show we've
discussed that
2:29:27
Karl Marx really was more of a
blogger
2:29:30
and much less of the guy who
wrote it it
2:29:33
was of course Friedrich Engels
who wrote
2:29:34
the communist Mills is the bad
actor
2:29:38
amongst the two guy Marx was
pretty much
2:29:40
a journalist a columnist
2:29:41
he never even lived in Russia
he lived
2:29:43
in England he it lived in
England Engels
2:29:46
was the real bad actor and
instead of
2:29:49
being called Marxism this
should all be
2:29:51
called Engel ISM yeah I think
it was
2:29:56
like a gadfly this Marx guy he
was kind
2:29:58
of around social circles and
they did
2:30:01
some poetry and yeah I think we
2:30:03
correctly concluded years ago
he was a
2:30:06
blogger so here's the
conspiracy theory
2:30:09
and I like it
2:30:12
Fredrik Friedrich Engels his
dad worked
2:30:16
for the Rothschild bank
2:30:21
one of the you know the in the
must have
2:30:24
been London I think at the time
where
2:30:26
that that division of the
Rothschild
2:30:28
Bank was and the Communist
Manifesto was
2:30:32
written under the auspices of
his dad
2:30:34
and then of course you know but
they
2:30:37
needed to the reason why they
really
2:30:39
wanted to separate the angles
name from
2:30:41
it is because of the bank so
they they
2:30:43
put it under Karl Marx's name
now here's
2:30:46
where the conspiracy gets
interesting
2:30:49
there is the ten planks of the
Communist
2:30:52
Manifesto is the ten planks of
the Communist
2:30:54
and the way the conspiracy
reads is this
2:30:58
is what Marx wrote for the for
communism
2:31:01
it sounds like an awful lot of
it is
2:31:04
already in place in the United
States
2:31:06
now what I don't know is if
these ten
2:31:09
planks of the Communist
Manifesto are
2:31:12
indeed ten planks to the
Communist
2:31:14
Manifesto I have not read the
cliff
2:31:18
notes the Communist Manifesto
and I feel
2:31:21
bad about that have you read
this online
2:31:23
I sure I have not read it in its
2:31:25
entirety sure I have not read
it in its
2:31:26
have you read it years ago yeah
like
2:31:30
years ago okay so these are the
ten
2:31:32
planks and you tell me if you
think
2:31:34
that's gonna pull it up well
you're
2:31:39
gonna get the same stuff I got
if you
2:31:41
look for ten planks Communist
Manifesto
2:31:46
uh-huh and then I'll look up
ten planks
2:31:49
I'm not quite sure where this
ten planks
2:31:51
comes but while you're doing
that plank
2:31:53
one abolition of private
property in
2:31:56
land and application of all
rents of
2:31:58
land to public purpose
2:32:02
sounds pretty communist to me
of course
2:32:04
that has not happened in the
United
2:32:05
States but through taxation
your land
2:32:10
can be taken away from you and
I would
2:32:14
argue that property tax is a
form of
2:32:17
rent that goes to the public
purpose
2:32:19
second plank a heavy
progressive or
2:32:23
graduated income tax will we
have that
2:32:26
in fact I think we're most
people are
2:32:29
proud to say we have a
progressive tax
2:32:32
third plank abolition of all
rights of
2:32:35
inheritance it's not been
abolished but
2:32:38
we do have a quite a hefty tax
it's
2:32:40
known as the death tax
2:32:41
you know plank for confiscation
of the
2:32:44
property of all emigrant
emigrants and
2:32:47
rebels and that's forfeiture
which
2:32:49
happens all the time if you do
something
2:32:52
bad then they can take all your
stuff
2:32:54
away then they can take all
your stuff
2:32:54
that's centralization of
credits in the
2:32:58
hands of the state by means of a
2:33:00
National Bank with state
capital and an
2:33:02
exclusive monopoly that would
be the
2:33:05
Federal Reserve that would also
indicate
2:33:08
the student loan situation oh
yes and
2:33:11
that is centralized six
centralization
2:33:14
of the means of communication
and
2:33:16
transportation in the hands of
the state
2:33:19
now we do have regulations we
are the
2:33:20
the FCC we the federal we have
the
2:33:24
Interstate Commerce Commission
but
2:33:27
there's a number of but we
still got
2:33:29
bloggers well yeah well this is
I'm
2:33:32
gonna get to this point just
the seventh
2:33:36
the seventh plank extension of
factories
2:33:40
and instruments of production
owned by
2:33:42
the state the bringing into
cultivation
2:33:44
of waste lands and the
improvement of
2:33:47
the soil generally in
accordance with a
2:33:50
common plan so we don't have
this
2:33:53
exactly but what we do have is
a lot of
2:34:00
government involvement in our in
2:34:01
agriculture we just recently
saw twelve
2:34:03
billion dollars in subsidies go
to the
2:34:07
farming sector or at least
promised to
2:34:09
the farming sector for to
compensate for
2:34:12
tariffs farming sector for to
compensate for
2:34:13
viii planck equal obligation of
all work
2:34:16
this is a Cassio's vibe the
equal
2:34:21
obligation of all to work
establishment
2:34:23
of industrial armies especially
for
2:34:25
agriculture and I think that
that's
2:34:28
where socialism comes into play
no
2:34:31
that's where we got that dead
guaranteed
2:34:34
jobs yes yes long discussion of
best
2:34:36
that's what I'm saying so
that's what
2:34:37
Ocasio is about she's a big fan
of that
2:34:40
so that people don't fully
understand I
2:34:41
should actually write it up
because it
2:34:43
probably needs to be written up
and
2:34:45
because it's an actual system
that falls
2:34:47
into this it's an economic
system it
2:34:50
falls into this and when I read
these
2:34:53
planks I'll just do the last two
2:34:54
combination of agriculture with
2:34:55
manufacturing industries gradual
2:34:57
abolition of the distinction
between
2:34:59
town and country by a more
equitable
2:35:02
distribution of the population
over the
2:35:04
country this is Larry Lessig
yes and the
2:35:07
planning reorganization Act of
1949
2:35:11
electoral college and then ten
free
2:35:14
education for all children in
government
2:35:16
schools does that sound like
Ocasio
2:35:19
abolition of children's factory
labor in
2:35:21
its present form and
combination of
2:35:23
Education with industrial
production to
2:35:26
me when you say socialism or
Democratic
2:35:29
Socialist you're just here to
finish the
2:35:31
job it seems like we're already
there
2:35:36
we have all this too sneaky
2:35:41
well you have to remember that
the
2:35:43
people associate communism with
the with
2:35:46
the Soviet Union and its
structure and
2:35:49
much of the Communist Manifesto
was not
2:35:52
really it would what was
implemented in
2:35:56
Russia was a Stalinist system
which was
2:35:58
really a modified version of
the Senate
2:36:00
also the Communist Manifesto
applies to
2:36:02
China and their version is of
is a
2:36:05
Chinese hybrid between
capitalism and
2:36:08
communism his system is
completely
2:36:11
different again right so the
basic
2:36:13
system which is the one we
should all go
2:36:16
out and read the Communist
Manifesto I
2:36:18
think now and I'll do that is
probably
2:36:23
just a kind of a suggestion box
well
2:36:28
here's what I'll pause it pause
it
2:36:30
yep because this is this is
this okay
2:36:33
dude because this is this is
this okay
2:36:34
while positing has nothing to
do with
2:36:36
dude it does all posit this
posit me
2:36:39
this posit and this closes out
the
2:36:42
conspiracy posit and this
closes out the
2:36:44
this Communist Manifesto if
followed
2:36:46
which we seem to have followed
quite
2:36:47
well when other countries have
followed
2:36:49
suit it really is about one
thing it
2:36:52
gives complete control over the
country
2:36:54
and the population through
taxation and
2:36:57
through money creation by the
central
2:36:59
bank which in our case is the
Federal
2:37:01
Reserve they don't have to own
it to
2:37:03
control it completely control
the masses
2:37:07
through this manifesto and
through
2:37:10
taxation and money creation go
Bitcoin
2:37:14
now on that note I'm going to
change the
2:37:18
tub topic yep
2:37:20
you use the word posit so I'm
watching
2:37:25
the worst movie ever made in
the history
2:37:27
of I say least Disney may be
true every
2:37:30
movie come by ever I'm sure I
loved it
2:37:33
which one which one was it
Avengers
2:37:36
infinity Wars what is that whoa
what is
2:37:40
this I might have seen this on
the
2:37:41
airplane which one is this this
is the
2:37:43
movie where all the about half
of the
2:37:46
characters in the Marvel
Universe are
2:37:48
killed at the end and that's
the way the
2:37:50
movie ends by some ogre some
guys just
2:37:55
big ogre and he uses the word
when they
2:37:57
were asking why are you trying
to kill
2:37:59
everybody he says well I've
done the
2:38:01
calculus no wrote that speech
writer for
2:38:12
once so this guy who's just
some big
2:38:17
bruiser he gets this is
actually more of
2:38:19
a symbolic movie about the New
World
2:38:21
Order and the global governance
idea and
2:38:25
who wins
2:38:27
well the global governance guy
the big
2:38:29
ogre wins and he gets to go
relax
2:38:31
because he says once you get
chills to
2:38:32
half half of everybody in the
universe
2:38:34
gets killed along with all the
2:38:36
superheroes unfortunately a lot
of
2:38:39
superheroes get killed movies
including
2:38:42
spy oh I was cheering because
I'm taking
2:38:46
all great no more spider-man
movies oh
2:38:49
great don't worry because all
these guys
2:38:51
are dying they didn't kill Iron
Man so
2:38:53
we had to watch a couple of
these guys
2:38:55
they're gonna come back they
know they
2:38:57
killed the entire what's the
group there
2:38:59
what's that funny comedy with a
little
2:39:01
with the little raccoon the
guardians of
2:39:04
the galaxy everybody
2:39:06
I think the raccoon is still
alive but
2:39:07
they killed all of them they're
all dead
2:39:09
and for good and then the way
Marvel
2:39:13
works it's that that I hate to
talk
2:39:14
comic book talk but the way
Marvel works
2:39:17
whatever happens happens for
everything
2:39:19
all the franchises so so they
have to
2:39:22
obviously come with some bogus
way of
2:39:24
bringing him back but they just
closed
2:39:28
the franchise I think this is
fantastic
2:39:30
the movies ever since Deadpool
and
2:39:35
Deadpool - who needs to see
another
2:39:38
superhero movie that's that's
the
2:39:40
franchise right there Deadpool
2 is
2:39:42
funny I agree I thought was very
2:39:45
enjoyable movie worth watching
2:39:47
it's just gags and jokes but
this movie
2:39:51
was the worst movie imaginable I
2:39:54
recommend it if you really feel
like
2:39:56
tormenting someone haha but
according to
2:39:59
people like that they know
about people
2:40:01
want you to see in the theaters
they say
2:40:04
that people were crying in the
theaters
2:40:06
cuz their favorite characters
were
2:40:08
killed oh man well how old were
these
2:40:10
people oh man well how old were
these
2:40:12
40 whoa I don't know I mean you
may have
2:40:16
been young they may have been
old but
2:40:18
just a lot of people that are
into this
2:40:19
anyway there's a horrible film
very very
2:40:22
poorly it's no story whatsoever
it does
2:40:25
have some symbolism I think
good work at
2:40:27
alienating a large portion of
the
2:40:29
audience film girl thanks
people love
2:40:34
that so we've had the virtue
signaling
2:40:39
about straws we you probably
heard the
2:40:42
virtue signaling about the
balloons
2:40:44
balloons are a problem because
a balloon
2:40:46
releases so if you have a
helium balloon
2:40:49
it should be forbidden because
the
2:40:52
helium balloon goes up it pops
it comes
2:40:54
back down fish eat it and die
and other
2:40:58
rodents eat it and die they all
die from
2:41:00
the blue rodents he didn't die
so what
2:41:03
it's inhumane okay we have yet
another
2:41:09
virtue signaler on the horizon
I don't
2:41:11
know if this is happening under
pressure
2:41:13
I can certainly see the waste
let's see
2:41:17
if this can make it maybe it
will stop
2:41:18
global warming the ketchup
packets days
2:41:21
could be numbered as Heinz
plans to
2:41:23
overhaul its global packaging
designs to
2:41:26
find greener alternatives the
Chicago
2:41:29
based food giant announced on
Tuesday
2:41:31
that it will make 100 percent
of its
2:41:33
packaging globally recyclable
reusable
2:41:36
or compostable by 2025 the
company joins
2:41:40
rivals like Unilever and Nestle
that
2:41:42
have set explicit deadlines to
make
2:41:45
their products environmentally
friendly
2:41:46
Pines isn't sure yet how it
will address
2:41:49
non recyclable packaging like
the
2:41:52
ketchup packets
2:41:52
the company says new packaging
will have
2:41:55
to balance sustainability with
2:41:57
requirements for food safety
shelf-life
2:41:59
and costs here's a thought do
you think
2:42:02
it's maybe possible that John
Kerry
2:42:04
running for Senate I believe is
he
2:42:07
running for Senate
2:42:09
I know he's running for
anything yeah I
2:42:11
think he's running for Senate
recognized
2:42:14
he's not gonna get leverage
from this no
2:42:16
no how about he got pressure
2:42:21
just wondering from well maybe
I think
2:42:24
this is bullcrap I think it's
just
2:42:26
virtue signaling of the worst
sort which
2:42:27
is like which consists of we're
gonna do
2:42:31
it in 2012 I'm sorry he's
running for
2:42:34
governor place ready for
governor think
2:42:36
he's running for governor isn't
he
2:42:39
build um on control room help
me out
2:42:41
here running for you talking
about
2:42:44
virtuous England crackpots
there was a
2:42:46
documentary on PBS about this
woman who
2:42:50
spent all her life getting
plastic water
2:42:53
bottles banned from Concord
2:42:55
Massachusetts hmm
2:42:57
and she finally a man managed
to get it
2:42:59
done and they got banned and
it's all
2:43:01
it's gonna be a horrible domino
effect
2:43:03
and I don't know that anybody
else did
2:43:04
anything but she was an old and
of an
2:43:08
old biddy who went from person
to person
2:43:10
to person and talking about you
know
2:43:13
saving the planet or whatever
you have
2:43:17
to listen to this tip and tell
me if you
2:43:18
find anything peculiar about it
I'm
2:43:20
doing is I have a petition
article
2:43:23
number 32 on the town warrant
and that
2:43:27
is to ban the sale of drinking
water in
2:43:30
plastic bottles in the town of
Concord I
2:43:33
don't think we have that kind
of problem
2:43:35
I think those have been
overblown over
2:43:36
the last several years
2:43:37
why put more burdens on people
well
2:43:39
because only 20 percent of the
plastic
2:43:44
water bottles are recycled how
do we
2:43:47
know that though what our
statistics for
2:43:49
that but you can find out a lot
about
2:43:51
all these issues if you go to
corporate
2:43:54
accountability International in
Boston
2:43:57
they have tobacco things like
budget
2:44:06
what did you do why did you
kill that
2:44:08
folk why did you kill that bug
the guys
2:44:12
talking to her and he sees this
a potato
2:44:16
bug or something walking across
with a
2:44:18
meter and he steps on it and
she gets
2:44:21
freaked out she looks and sees
him doing
2:44:24
that and gets right off the
topic
2:44:26
immediately this is so easily
distracted
2:44:27
and it was concerned about why
he
2:44:30
stepped on a bug this is like
to me is
2:44:34
like wow
2:44:37
also this what was that the
office for
2:44:40
corporate responsibility
sounded like a
2:44:42
nice outfit to me yeah let's
play this
2:44:48
clip so we get it otherwise
it's the
2:44:49
kool Moe clip where he says
America's
2:44:52
not never been that great and
look the
2:44:54
simple this comes down to this
we're not
2:44:58
gonna make America great again
it was
2:45:01
never that great we have not
reached
2:45:07
greatness we will reach
greatness when
2:45:13
every American is fully engaged
guys on
2:45:18
xanax he sounds wrong with him
I'm
2:45:20
calling xanax it sounds a bit
like it
2:45:25
yeah yeah you know I understand
what he
2:45:29
was trying to do sure do but he
flubbed
2:45:31
it it was just stupid he did the
2:45:33
delivery was wrong the timing
was wrong
2:45:36
and you probably should have
just stayed
2:45:38
away you know it's like you're
gonna try
2:45:40
and make a joke about make
America great
2:45:42
again you gotta have a good joke
2:45:47
I don't know what he could have
done the
2:45:48
structure that better but it
was really
2:45:50
poorly executed now it's now
it's a meme
2:45:55
alright time for one more and
we should
2:45:57
really get out of here
2:45:58
well I got a one I've been
trying to get
2:46:01
off the list it's been here for
a while
2:46:03
this is a classic when you have
you have
2:46:07
shields and Brooks I think
they're
2:46:09
moving shields off of the off
of the job
2:46:12
on PBS newshour because he's
he's just
2:46:15
he just rants and raves he
sounds like
2:46:17
an idiot to be honest about it
but let's
2:46:20
listen to his commentary on
Putin and
2:46:22
how it relates to Trump what a
mere 2%
2:46:26
very favorable among American
voters
2:46:29
three percent favorable 65
percent
2:46:32
unfavorable 46% very
unfavorable so by a
2:46:36
margin of twenty three to one
his very
2:46:40
unfavorable to his very
favorables and
2:46:43
why is Donald Trump hanging
around with
2:46:45
them I gave it I've been
suspicious all
2:46:47
the way through he must have
something
2:46:49
there's some reason Donald
Trump is not
2:46:52
a man given to great loyalty to
2:46:54
individuals you know his
hero-worship is
2:46:57
finite they're honest if it
does raise
2:47:00
serious questions about what's
going on
2:47:02
here is he still waiting for
the PP tape
2:47:05
is he a little behind on the is
he not
2:47:06
been brought up to speed I have
no idea
2:47:09
what he's talking about you're
right the
2:47:11
guy's all he can consider him
gone he's
2:47:14
on that he's now he's just not
only bet
2:47:16
on the wrong horse he's riding
into the
2:47:17
sunset with it yeah even Brooks
has
2:47:20
backed off a little bit
2:47:22
all right everybody that's your
2:47:24
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2:47:26
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2:48:31
no you're not missing anything
these
2:48:34
guys are they're deluded I
don't know
2:48:37
what their problem is at this
point this
2:48:38
is going on Toula this comes
back to the
2:48:40
you know don't be stupid you
have a
2:48:43
moral obligation to be smart
yeah you
2:48:46
have a moral obligation to be
2:48:48
intelligent presidents that cool
2:48:50
intelligent cast it's confusing
to me I
2:48:54
mean that just it doesn't
anyone else
2:48:56
see this
2:48:58
gotta think more you gotta
think more
2:49:00
you gotta think smart you gotta
be smart
2:49:02
you gotta be intelligent
2:49:05
don't be stupid you have a moral
2:49:07
obligation to be smart
2:49:10
[Music] to be smart
2:49:13
more you gotta take more you
gotta think
2:49:16
smart you gotta be smart you
gotta be
2:49:18
intelligent at the same time we
are
2:49:26
under attack from Russia and for
2:49:28
physical missiles like during
yes in
2:49:30
this missile crisis Americans
would be
2:49:33
in the streets and protesting
and asking
2:49:35
for the president to protect us
2:49:37
these are invisible missiles a
racial
2:49:39
chin call out these are
invisible
2:49:54
missiles call out these are
invisible
2:49:55
[Music] call out these are
invisible
2:50:04
[Music] call out these are
invisible
2:50:39
no way to get the protesting
and ask for
2:50:44
the president to protect us easy
2:50:46
language to what he is used
with are
2:50:49
gonna to wrongs and what is I
am here to
2:51:06
do to blow the whistle
2:51:12
well what mr. Nixon I mean mr.
Trump
2:51:15
does when the time is right you
talked
2:51:21
about it you obviously want to
talk
2:51:22
about it shine this is a part
of this
2:51:24
house it's great that I made
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2:51:26
people who are aware of
2:51:41
an insult documents I have been
able to
2:51:43
verify every single thing
everything
2:51:45
that you see is in quote is
verifiable
2:51:47
its document it is because
here's the
2:51:49
thing document it is because
here's the
2:51:50
[Music] document it is because
here's the
2:51:52
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that it's a
2:51:55
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2:52:04
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2:52:17
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2:53:00
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