October 21st, 2018 • 2h 48m
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are they gonna prop him up like
Obama
Adam curry Jhansi Devorah this
is your
award-winning Gitmo Nation Media
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is no
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state here in downtown Austin
Tate house
in the clue do in the morning
everybody
I'm Adam curry man from
northern Silicon
Valley where I can assure you
as some
authority that most Dijon
mustard sold
in the United States has stale
I stepped
all over you with you when so
long I
like what are you doing
hello you took if you did a time
analysis of how long I go it's
so short
I figured once in a whi I could
say
something more than the normal
nothing
well I'm sorry just to do this
for me
say I'm John C Dvorak I'm John
see to
work you'll never hear it in
the final
mix it'll sound perfect I
promise now
what was this about mustard
most is John
mustard sold in the United
States is
stale oh it has not none of
that if you
go to France and have Dijon
mustard I
don't care where you get it
it's got a a
bite oh but what happened what
happened
did you get a nasty Dijon no I
was just
thinking about it because I
noticed that
some recently within the last
six months
Costco brought a bunch of Maile
Dijon
mustard in a two pack of the
regular hot
Dijon and some and that that
giant
old-fashioned stuff with the
big grains
big mustard seeds yeah and when
you went
to buy it you bought if you
bought it
when it came in because it was
a good
deal it was the real deal it
was a hot
Dijon mustard it was just
enough you
know it was just really going
right
through your nose it was like
wasabi and
a month later if you went back
to get
another batch of by then it was
already
lost that pungency it just goes
away
it's an outrage it oxidizes so
fast or
whatever I think it was probably
slightly our cutting dies when
they
shifted over but okay okay
I can't buy a good bottle of
Dijon
mustard United States I have to
interject with the show
business story
back in the day mtv days when I
had
money I had a rolls-royce
Silver Shadow
- I bought a secondhand but it
was it
was it was in you only had
7,000 miles
huh perfect I drove it a deal
yeah drove
it into Manhattan every single
day and
this was the time I don't
remember the
commercial on television there
would be
two rolls-royce's parked next
to each
other and the guy in the back
the window
would go down and what what
would he say
did you have any Grey Poupon
pardon me ed you have any Grey
Poupon so
I had of course every douchebag
on route
3 you know the going into the
tunnel
would honk good man you got any
Grey
Poupon and I would open my
glovebox and
why yes I do and I had my Grey
Poupon
right there yeah well Grey
Poupon of
course there's a which was first
introduced the United States
but Hugh
blind is not Grey Poupon from
France it
was they licensed the name and
they made
a kind of a brown mustard that
is very
mild in last time I look that
could be
wrong they may have changed it
but in
Canada the Grey Poupon is
actually made
in France and it gets it is the
Dijon
mustard when trying to it I
heard that
San Francisco is now the king
of making
the poop on all right hey John
it's been
quite a few days and I think I
think
we're getting closer to
understanding
the ashabi mysteries well I
have a
number of clips including I
think a
pretty good roundup uh-huh
already one
of my clips is just a roundup
on there a
good I've got an update wrap
says
nothing about round rally Rock
would be
a Saudi Arabia's public
prosecutor said
18 Saudi nationals were arrested
including the men who were
present when
khashoggi died but the new
version of
events that The Washington Post
columnist was killed as the
result of a
quote brawl shortly after he
arrived at
the consulate is being widely
questioned
German Chancellor Angela Merkel
said
quote still nothing has been
clarified
about Khashoggi x' death and
quote we
demand to know what happened
Merkle's involved with this now
what why
why is she all of a sudden in
this convo
why should I know it's
ridiculous
members of Congress from both
parties
also dismissed the Saudi
government's
latest version of what happened
the
ranking Democrat on the US House
Intelligence Committee Adam
Schiff
tweeted that the claim was
quote not at
all credible if he was fighting
with
those sent to capture or kill
him it was
for his life Republican Senator
Rand
Paul tweeted quote what they
did was
unacceptable and I call on my
colleagues
in Congress to join me in
denouncing
their behavior and changing how
we treat
them a senior official of
turkeys ruling
party said today that Turkey
would never
quote allow a cover-up of this
crime
Judea warmed up turkey will not
let this
ugly frightening inhumane case
go which
was against humanity Turkish
officials
have said that they have audio
evidence
that Khashoggi was deliberately
killed
and dismembered yesterday
President
Trump was asked if he thought
the Saudis
knew explanation was credible I
do I do
I mean it's again it's early we
haven't
finished our review or
investigation but
it's I think it's a very
important first
step and it happened sooner
than people
thought it would happen I think
we need
to play the jingle
this is one of the better ones
John
because we have their of course
khashoggi x'
disappearance killing
dismemberment
whatever it is is the
distraction from
from what this is really about
and this
is very big on a on a grand
political
scale what's taking place here
I'm not
sure Trump was ready for this
because
the main the main thing first
of all
let's just step back so boohoo
Saudi
Arabia killed a Saudi in on
their own
turf which is an embassy is is
in Saudi
Arabia there's no jurisdiction
from any
other country over that the
country that
stones women the heads people
kills them
most of the 9/11 hijackers were
from
Saudi Arabia no now we have to
get
outraged so obviously there's
something
else going on in the background
and it's
much easier than background and
the main
and I'll just give you the main
to two
pieces is we have the US and
Saudi
Arabia doing a number of things
mainly
preparing to supply oil and be
continued
to supply oil and gasoline oil
products
to the world while on November
3rd the
full-on sanctions for Iran go
into
effect blocking Iran from
trading oil
through US dollars in US
payment systems
and of course we have China and
Russia
and whole bunch of countries
who would
like to participate in oil
trade with
Iran and if we somehow get in a
spat
with the Saudis and they either
stop oil
production or set it at 300
dollars a
barrel or whatever could happen
or may
not happen
that gives the European Union
who I'm
looking at in this case free
license to
go and get oil from Iran which
they are
already in discussions in fact
was it
when I get this report
confirmation
Europe is finalizing the
mechanism for
cooperation for buying oil and
oil
products from Iran so and this
seems to
be from Iran so and this seems
to
um as always about oil turf and
there's
always a hooker in there well
well first
of all I gotta call you on the
distraction of the week it's
not a
distraction if it has if it's
politically motivated to
actually
accomplish something this is
more no I'm
saying the distraction is the
killing
but okay I'll give you that it
doesn't
matter it's just it's it's
distracting
everyone from looking at what's
really
going on let me put it that way
does
that make sense
it is I believe that's true but
it but
at the same time it does have a
purpose
now I looked into this
Khashoggi guy as
deep as I could go the deeper
you go the
more sketchy this guy is let's
just say
I need a LARP tintin do a story
on him
because that will be for the no
agenda
show the official pronunciation
I cannot
wait the official pronunciation
I cannot
everybody please record al
Sharpton as
often as possible we need to
get his
pronunciation of Christianity
still got
that once a week show now
khashoggi
spoke on behalf and at the
Council on
Foreign Relations that gives
you any
idea of where he me maybe
allied but he
did this nine months after 9/11
bana was on c-span and what he
said
himself is not so interesting
he's a
he's not very as certainly in
2002 was
when this c-span thing took
place or
this event for the Council on
Foreign
Relations took place that was
broadcast
on c-span
he's his English is not very
good and
certainly he has to have
someone must be
rewriting his his articles from
back in
that period but what I found
interesting
was his introduction by the
then editor
of the wash executive editor of
The
Washington Post ouap ouap ouap
ah so
again this is 2002 nine months
after
9/11 and he introduced good
Jamal
khashoggi and read a number of
excerpts
from his articles at the time
which I
think really sets the stage as
to who
this guy was what he was
writing about
and why would anyone be so in
love with
him I thought that I would get
things
going by reading a few
provocative
quotations from our guest and
then turn
it over to him the first is
from a piece
that doesn't have a date on it
but it's
in the last few months you
should begun
began that's why Americans want
unconditional condemnation of
the
horrible attacks that happened
in their
skies and on their land they
also want
total cooperation in their
fight against
terror according to their own
definition
of what terrorism is and
exactly who the
terrorists are but Saudi Arabia
will not
give in to such demands Saudis
tend to
link the ugliness of what
happened in
New York and Washington with
what has
happened and continues to
happen in
Palestine this time that the
United
States comes to understand the
effect of
its foreign policy and the
consequences
of that policy but
unfortunately such
rationalization is still not
part of
American reality you feel where
he's
coming from he's basically he's
like hey
man you want you want to blame
on she
want to blame the Saudis but
look about
your door with Israel and
Palestine
that's what that's what his
message has
been consistently or a piece
from The
Daily Star what is the daily
stuff a
little beneath daily oh yes of
course I
know that from January 15th an
excerpt
it has been clear for some time
that the
Bush administration is
inexperienced in
foreign affairs in fact had it
not been
for the 9/11 attacks the Bush
administration would have liked
nothing
better than to isolate itself
from the
rest of the world altogether
even after
it declared its war on terror
the
administration didn't seem to
have a
coherent idea of its objectives
the Americans have also been
relying on
advice from the Israelis who
view the
Arab Muslim world from the
extremely
narrow perspective of their own
interests while such an
approach is
certainly not in the interests
of a
global power with wide-ranging
relations
such as the United States we
cannot but
resign ourselves to this fact
in trying
to cut our losses the best way
we can so
long as the Americans are happy
with
this bizarre situation the last
another
paragraph from the same piece
September
11th made matters worse in
Saudi America
Malaysia's the attacks provoked
a
torrent of hate for Saudi
Arabia from US
opinion shapers that couldn't
but
influence the American public I
happen
to believe that the aim of this
anti
Saudi campaign wasn't to further
American interests but to
absolve Israel
and the blind Americans support
for the
Jewish state of responsibility
for what
happened on September 11
did he just blame Israel for
9/11 did he
just blame Israel sounds like
it I found
that expressing this opinion
greatly
angers u.s. columnist
explain it away his implicit
support for
the crimes committed on that
day so you
can see our guest as though
Amanda's
Chai's away from telling us
what he
thinks so you know I wish it
would have
cut into the part where he it
gives it
says his name the the editors
name no
the editor says I like to
introduce
Khashoggi is Jose Dior he says
Khashoggi
he says Khashoggi but khashoggi
himself
was not that interesting he's
just going
on droning at the thing
we another part of our deal
with Saudi
Arabia is actually what Jared
Kushner is
doing Jared Kushner who is this
is very
funny if you see what they're
saying
about him he was working
directly with
MBs with muhammad bin salam
working
directly with him to come up
with to
figure out the two-state
solution
between Israel and Palestine so
the and
that's why Trump was always so
confident
talking about well you know
it's a tough
thing that that would be the
biggest
deal in the world to do and you
know and
then he appointed Jared to be a
part of
that and we had strengthened our
relationship with the Saudis
which I
think it soured a little bit
when Trump
went to talk at the UN and said
hey OPEC
you're not holding to our deal
you were
supposed to keep these prices
down at a
normal level and you know
obviously
they're not at the level Trump
would
like to him to see or anybody
for that
matter but it seems like a lot
of this
comes back to the to the
Palestine
Israel agreement back to 2002
when
Khashoggi was writing about it
then and
just I'll take this little side
route
about Jared Kushner knowing
that that's
what he's been doing well
that's what
we've been told he's been doing
here was
a Texas representative yo Kean
Castro
from San Antonio talking about
what
Kushner may have what his
involvement
may have been in this koshugi
affair I
know papi that there's been a
lot of
discussion about this there'll
be more
discussion on CNN and all the
other
networks today let me get to
the point
that I think is most disturbing
right
now the reporting that Jared
Kushner may
have with US intelligence
delivered a
hit list an enemies list to the
Crown
Prince to NBS in Saudi Arabia
and that
the Prince then may have acted
on that
and one of the people that he
took
action against as mr. kesaji we
don't
have I just want to be clear
for our
viewers we do not have that
reporting
I'm not sure when where you're
getting
there has been reporting to
that effect
sure I've seen reporting to
that effect
sure but she's are long and
short of it
is that that needs to be
investigated
this entire the entire timeline
of what
happened of any sharing of
American
intelligence with us
and how they may have used that
intelligence needs to be
investigated by
the Intelligence Committee in
the house
and in the second blah blah blah
I just thought it was funny
that oh yeah
yeah he put a he gave a MBS a
hit list
kill this guy yeah that's where
that's
Jared Kushner alright I can see
him
doing that well I think it's a
Bernese
investigating is where that
story comes
about because this guy this is
Texas
Castro yeah yeah yeah he's on
the
Intelligence Committee the House
Intelligence Committee so he
would be
privy to some screwy stuff and
he may be
justified you sure that's this
guy who
was on the Intelligence
Committee yeah I
see him I thought it was heard
maybe I'm wrong okay the hurt
isn't
heard the replies heard a
Republican I
yes you're right herds the
Republican
spook yeah
yeah this guy is the Democrat
and he's
spewing this weird stuff now
and I mean
she pushes back against which I
thought
was kind of interesting which
is here's
here's where I need help so
clearly
someone wanted to muck at the
way I see
it someone wanted to muck up the
us-saudi relationship we
there's a lot
of Palestine love Indiana in in
our
government there's there's
definitely
still a lot of Iran love and our
government remember who our
government
made a huge deal under Obama
with the
the Iranian regime so somewhere
yeah and
I why no one's saying of the
Russians
did it or someone's in you know
somehow
someone's involved in make a
Trump was
not ready for you can see it
he's like
all crap how do I do this well
maybe
we'll maybe you can get away
with the
arresting people and all my
certain my
advisor and you know the as we
talked
about the old man the the king
is now
looking at should I keep this
kid here
or get someone else in there's
rumors
that he may be out but this was
a big
play by someone and it it might
work
well I think they're still
gonna pin it
on the one of the intelligence
guys in
the Saudi government and
they're gonna
hang a few of them yeah and and
that
will be the what does they'll
be taking
one for the team
but that's bin Salman does he
survive
this because he's got I think
he's got a
lot of enemies in Saudi Arabia
yeah and
he has his whole family you
know he's
not the guy that they thought
were gonna
run the place and I'm sure
there's you
know siblings and other creeps
around
the palace intrigue sort of
thing that
we read about or watch when you
watch
the Game of Thrones or
something like
that you get this sense that
this kind
of thing is going all the time
and I
think you're right I think
trump was
flat-footed um I'm sure they're
having
meetings about this constantly
because
it's addition to Trump's
preoccupied
with it with the arms deal he
thinks
that's yeah but probably the
problem is
that the the house triggered the
Magnitsky Act letter and Trump
has to
respond within 120 days I think
is that
the thing is long enough for
him to
figure something out they would
want to
do about this but the idea is
is to
block Saudi Arabia to blunt it
caused a
rift between the US and Saudi
Arabia
which hey I don't like these
fuckers
either but it but it doesn't
seem like
it's gonna do good for anybody
if that
happens except for the
Europeans who
will get cheap oil I mean maybe
mi6 is
doing this maybe the the UK it
wants the
deal with Iran I don't know
someone
wants the deal with Iran to go
through
for the EU and China and Russia
and we
know it's not the Trump White
House
that's what it seems to be
there's that
everything else is unimportant
yet why
the Russians haven't been
implicated
this has got rush this I think
more I
think it's less likely that's
mi6
because they're still dealing
with this
brexit mess yeah I agree huh
and you
have Russia's Russia is them
and and
they benefit greatly it seems
to me
and Putin yes and Putin just
came out
over the weekend saying well
and I've
asked a couple of our Russian
producers
to check authenticity of what
he said to
me but I what I've received so
far is it
looks like it was hizo Americas
and it's
a sunset you know there that
the end of
their of their power it's
diminishing
and you know this will be all
over soon
that was the gist of what Putin
said so
it seems like that comes at a
good time
so yeah you know this would be
an
opportune time to say it was the
Russians who at least made this
a big
deal why they knew our news
media which
is also anti-russian yeah all
of a
sudden is now like giving him a
pass on
this and not even mentioning the
possibilities it seems as they
don't
even want to speculate and then
speculate about everything yes
but yeah
won't speculate about this
because and
and they keep referring to him
as you
saw in the rap report he's only
referred
to as Washington Post columnist
no no
journalists they have the gauls
to call
him a journalist they're
journalists ya
know he's a columnist a blogger
a
blogger and he's been staunchly
anti-american since the 2002
when he
started telling us to shut up
well let's
play the other two clips I have
about
him they're both short I'm
gonna play
the shortest one first because
I'm
thinking first of all who does
Amnesty
International think they are
has to do
what they're doing here play
this
khashoggi amnesty amnesty
International
is calling on Saudi Arabia to
immediately turn over the
remains of
Jamal khashoggi to an
independent
autopsy the human rights group
says that
the Saudi government's new
explanation
that the us-based journalist
died after
a fistfight in the South Econ
salute in
Istanbul is not credible US
allies and
lawmakers also have doubts
let's hear some audio for a
second I'd
like to hear the dismemberment
audio
please for $400 dollars
no I just what this clip is
about it's
about who doesn't understand
international what do they get
demanding
this and demanding why don't we
do it no
agenda show demands that the
remains of
the pieces of the show be
central Austin
Texas Legislature in Austin
Texas we
need to know what's going on we
need all
the pieces and we need an Ikea
assembly
manual to put them back
together and
also no one no one is really
talking
about Turkey who seemed to be
completely
believable all of a sudden yeah
yet
Turkey yeah we should trust
those guys
they're completely independent
in the
first rap report that we play
at the
beginning the turkeys was
mentioned in
there so I'm not gonna let this
happen
and they're gonna get to the
bottom and
Oliver not you did reference a
point the
Saudi Council it is sovereign
territory
for Saudi Arabia you can't just
go
barging in there they can do
whatever
with and they can do whatever
they want
whatever the laws of Saudi
Arabia are
they can implement their and as
you
could you could technically I
mean
technically I mean in theory or
in
reality the Turks could
surround a
building the Turks could
surround a
bust through the door and go in
there
and do an investigation and
then that
would result in the Turkish
embassy from
Saudi Arabia being shipped out
of there
I mean would cause
international a
problem I mean or you know it's
what
happened to all we had a
council it in
Iran in 1979 that got raided so
that
means you can do it but
technically you
can't do it and so I don't
understand
what the Turks are what they're
all this
well they're Bigfoot and where
is the
tape you know that that's the
part that
it will go down in history as
they
recorded it and no one will
ever heard
it it'll never be broadcast
because it
likely doesn't exist although I
would
think that if you have an
embassy in
Turkey and you're the Saudi
embassy that
thing is bugged and that's the
kind of
tape they're talking about
here's NPR
about Turkey despite last
night's
revelations there are still
many many
questions about this whole
episode
including what possible goal
the Saudis
could have had and
Turkey's role in all of this
Turkey has
been a key source of both
leaked and
public information but as our
next guest
points out that country's human
rights
record is no better than Saudi
Arabia's
mr. Cordes Minh thanks so much
for
talking with us a pleasure you
pointed
out that turkeys human rights
record is
no different or no better
really than
Saudi Arabia's when it comes to
suppressing dissent suppressing
media
criticism so first of all is it
fair to
assume that the details that
we've been
getting so far from the Turkish
media
and other sources came with the
approval
of the Turkish government if
that's the
case what's Turkey's role on
this what's
their agenda in this well I
think it's
hard to be precise but Turkey is
actively competing with Saudi
Arabia for
influence in the Middle East in
the Arab
world so what we're looking at
is a
country that has every reason
to try to
sort of reduce the Saudi
profile and
influence in the region and that
includes ties to the United
States
because Turkey's relations with
the US
have become increasingly bad
because of
the authoritarian shift under
Article in
the State Department cursory
reports on
Human Rights they're
discouraging for
the whole region you have three
countries with something
approaching a
decent record Jordan in
particular but
Morocco and Tunisia as well
what Saudi
Arabia has been found I think
to have
been doing is almost standard
operating
procedure for virtually every
country in
the area and certainly if you
look at
the numbers for Turkey its
arrested
detained and disappeared far
more people
in the last two years than
Saudi Arabia
we should totally believe them
they sound legit
here's the clip with hot this
is the
last film except by at last
clip this
Khashoggi is the Holly Williams
reporter
who was around 1 o'clock in the
morning
local time when Saudi Arabia
finally
changed its story
admitting after nothing but
angry
denials that veteran journalist
and
Washington Post columnist
Gemara Shoji
had died inside the Saudi
consulate in
Istanbul Turkey he walked in
apparently
to get some official paperwork
on
October 2nd and was killed
according to
the new Saudi account after
getting into
a fight and a quarrel 18 Saudi
nationals
have been arrested by their
government
and several officials have been
fired
including the former deputy
head of
intelligence Ahmed Al Asiri
thought to
have been close to Saudi
Arabia's
powerful Crown Prince Mohammed
bin
Salman Saudi Arabia's new
version of
events has left many deeply
unconvinced
including her Shoji's longtime
friend
Turin cush Luxur was he the
kind of man
who would walk into the Saudi
Arabian
consulate and get involved in a
fight
Jamal I think he was not confide
anything you know her Shoji's
fiance
hata jay jingis said today in a
tweet
may God have mercy on you my
beloved
Jamal God have mercy on you my
beloved
her Shoji had become an
outspoken critic
of the crown prince he'd been
living in
self-imposed exile in the US
since last
year over fears for his safety
um over fears for his safety
I really I really don't know I
mean I
really like the the Putin angle
because
so many things are just
happening
coincidentally Putin comes out
right at
this moment says all America is
on the
way down it's not gonna happen
at the
very moment where the EU isn't
is
finalizing negotiations with
Iran and
you know that the only way the
u.s.
stops Iranian oil sales is by
blocking
them from payment networks the
banks etc
you just can't transfer your
dollars but
I think this is maybe that's
what Putin
is talking about if we if the
relations
between us and the Saudis
really sours
when it comes to the oil we're
going to
see oil traded is already being
traded
in Euros but it's going to be a
lot of
euros and the European Union is
not our
friend in this there are
they're doing
deals while this is taking
place and yes
that benefits Russia benefits
China
doesn't benefit us and we can't
replace
Saudis oil with anything
cheaper can we
we didn't we have no way to do
that we
have our own oil we can do
whatever who
went back to coal we wouldn't
have to
worry about it yeah but I'm
just saying
we there isn't currently no no
mechanism
to replace what we import with
with our
own stuff it's just not
happening that
way stuff it's just not
happening that
so d is as something like 10%
of the
world's supply now that the
funny thing
is there is a report that I
read and I
didn't get a clip or anything
somebody
sent it one of our producers
sent it in
it was a news report about the
fact that
apparently there's something
like 10
million there's there's a
number of
tankers full of oil floating
around
getting ready some high some
Island
they're just sitting there
waiting to be
dumped on the market because
the price
of oil has been creeping up and
this is
actually this could be oil
speculators I
mean I like that so it would go
what a
hundred plus hundred dollars a
barrel
price that would be the idea
yeah to get
it to a hundred cuz if you can
get to a
hundred you really I mean
that's gonna
put a crimp on everything yeah
but you
not if you're investing and
you're going
your long oil I mean there's
all these
leverage deals you can do that
that will
get you you know ten to one on
your
investment don't know I got I
got a very
thoughtful note from the UK it
was now
the one thing that is emitted
from every
single report which I think was
the
first thing we talked about is
the name
Khashoggi to old straight white
guys
like Adam and John this
conjures up one
image and one image only of that
fantastic yacht adnan khashoggi
had off
of the coast of everywhere
if he was the biggest arms
dealer and
well-respected arms dealer in
the world
yeah and he was highlighted
under
lifestyles of the rich and
famous and
you know that of course is he
is related
is he is related as to Jamal
khashoggi
and I got a very thoughtful
note from
another one of the cousins
who's in the
UK and he donated $33.33 and
that's how
I got the donation note and I
said hey
did you donate this to be
anonymous or
can I read it now go ahead and
read his
name is Sean the first name
only and I
thought this was very
interesting Adam
thanks again for the shows but
no no
this seems really important but
as it's
headlines good way for us to
meet may be
interesting enough for us to
have a chat
one day or a pint
we're with this within this
dimension
and then he gives me a little
help on
pronouncing khashoggi he says
no ID he
has actually he says the
Italians do
have a lot more fun with the
Khashoggi
name as they really highlight
the cash
part of it the italians him
back in the
day with cash Auggie
he says the family yacht that
Nabila
which of course was Adnan's
yacht he
sold later sold to the Sultan
of Brunei
on was Brunei was also owned by
Donald
Trump was Brunei was also owned
by Donald
lest we forget remember that
trial yet
Trump bought his yacht that
huge ma
yacht he never spent 3 million
needed
just to change the the the logo
was it
stayed it stayed in the B Lea
Prince
Walid took the yacht and and
then you
know change it appropriately
but he said
I've been in the headlines all
my life
my mom's divorced my dad's
trials my
cousin's deaths when we were on
trial
with Imelda Marcos in New York
the u.s.
pronounced our name the same
way as they
do today it's just wrong I've
had lots
of positive experiences in the
past with
Donald Trump remember this is
an odd
this is a Khashoggi family
member he was
always kind and good to me
although my
dad did make Marla maples cry
one time
during dinner because Donald
Trump would
always say oh man I want to be
like
Adnan he's got two wives she
burst into
tears so now I have two cousins
that
have gone out with a bang Jamal
and Dodi
I'm like what Dodie Dodie Al
Fayed
yes Dodi al-fayed that's
interest who
was his mom
huh a Khashoggi his mom was a
khashoggi
so and these are two of his
cousins he
ci yeah they've both gone out
with a
bang I'm certain Donald Trump
asked his
team wait a minute was that one
of odd
non sons but notice the
mainstream press
keeps his name out of the
picture he's
had an intense past and they
would want
and they want to use Jamal for
reasons
you and John know better than I
do I was
in Saudi Arabia the day before
all the
Ritz Carlton arrests what was
that again
Jon says what is that what was
the was
that a big thing that happened
yeah erm
you re talking massively in the
show
this is when mr. bonesaw
decided to
round up 400 of the family
members who
had rolled billionaires in
their own
right from all kinds of dealings
overseas and locked him up in
that
ritz-carlton as a kind of a
ersatz
prison and the grill D in every
one of
them to find out who was like a
traitor
or whatever and then they
apparently
coughed up a lot of money to
get out
each one of them yes and then he
released them all eventually so
our
producer cousin Sean says it's
been
pretty intense since that day
and now
the khashoggi is amongst
ourselves joke
by saying they're killing all
the circus
Yogi's this is a great note I
really
don't think NBS realized the
weight of
our name so my prediction is he
will
step aside very soon look how
the world
is pulling away but one of my
brothers
thinks that won't happen so I
guess the
bets are on
thanks again for all thanks
again for
reading I first small work away
okay
thank you very much so I've
asked him a
few more questions and he will
follow up
he seems to be very responsive
so this
is this is interesting but this
is a the
Khashoggi z-- themselves seem
to be on
the liberation yeah they're not
they're
not very happy and they're being
eliminated very happy and
they're being
so and you know that brings us
back to
the mob the analogy you know
it's like a
mafia operation in Saudi Arabia
huh and
it's all these family members
in the
family of course is the family
if you
think about it with the mafia
if the
mainstream certainly you know
the MSNBC
CNN's of the world if they did
a little
bit of research think I have a
field day
with this Wow Trump bought the
vodka
show keys boat but they won't
because
they're desperately protecting
Jamal
khashoggi image of this freedom
fighter
who lived among us and wrote
for a
waffle waffle waffle waffle
therefore he
must have been great but he was
at very
best as a double agent he was
spying on
everybody as a double agent he
was spying on
bringing notes back and forth
there's a
lot of of evidence of that did
you read
that the article journalist spy
yeah
yeah put a link in the show
notes people
should read that and there's
also that
PJ Media article though which
is pretty
good yeah there's a lot of good
stuff
out if you want to look for it
but it's
on alternative outlets I mean
the
mainstream just doesn't want to
touch it
and I mean they could have a
field day
with them with the yacht itself
and this
is you know they always mention
odd not
in passing as though it's not
really any
connection yeah right and and
being able
to tie Doty into it I'm it's
perfect
they eliminated him too didn't
they
mm-hmm eliminated him too
didn't they
hmm so all I like the idea of
it being
just pure oil speculation
that's a
really good one cuz gee that's
the
simple one bunch of guys come
up with
some plan and then they just
wait for a
catalyst and here it is you
know some
guy got killed ah screw him
well maybe
they've been wet maybe they've
been
lying in wait to undermine this
Saudi
deal and why the hell are we
still doing
it's not even for the oil
probably I
guess yeah we I know we have a
lot of
oil it doesn't seem like we
have the
infrastructure in place to
replace
whatever we're getting right
now quickly
but okay but ultimately it's to
screw
something up
that's would be my guess is to
screw
something up and if they were
doing it
for the midterms it makes no
sense way
too late to do that and ya know
this is
ya know I said ya know yeah you
know if
you what if you remember the
show that
people should always watch this
the 13
episodes and then to pull off
the air
Rubicon's and then to pull off
the air
it was pretty much people in the
background conniving to screw
things up
so they could make money how
many people
don't care who dies as long as
they can
make money it's very surprising
yeah
there's that now the arms sale
for sure
we can't let the arm sales go
to to
Russia you know that would just
make no
sense so we have to keep that
deal
I would think well a Trump is
doing the
best he can to keep the deal
here I was
thinking about this why what
difference
does it make
the politics between countries
and the
deals between companies
and countries shouldn't they be
separate
I mean Trump is not the one
that's
getting the commission for the
deal he's
not working for Boeing he's not
working
for Lockheed you know he is I
mean you
know he literally is he but
only as only
as a kind of a frontman
reference guide
country sales guy yeah
sales guy but he's not really a
true
sales guy cuz he's not getting
a piece
of it he doesn't get his 10%
commission
he isn't getting you know
anything he
doesn't even have much keys to
hand out
that I know but okay so why
can't we
just say okay we now officially
will do
stop do it but we stopped
liking the
Saudis officially as our
government but
but Boeing still likes them and
they can
sell these things and we're not
gonna
stop that from going through
Mike well
that's not true being that's
not true
because every single sale has
to be
approved and I believe some of
these
above a certain amount have to
go
through a governmental approval
process
which is not just the president
we've
seen we've seen those those
bills our
own government cleared the deal
because
we got a bunch of jackasses
running the
country that's why you are all
look who
has the money the reason why
someone
calls a guy MBS is because
they're
sucking him they love MBS he's
shooting
money everywhere he's just over
everybody same with the Chinese
they're
giving money to everybody so
they're
against anything that would
hurt their
friends so you know ah well
this guy I
don't know is he good easy bad
let me
look at my money well there's
too many
parties at play here you just
contradicted the thesis you
started well
yes and no because that's why I
said
there's two sides we there's
the sides
that that desperately want to
protect
our sovereignty and this the
side that
doesn't where Hort I have to be
anti-american where Hort I have
to be
if you screw up the Saudi deal
now it
may be very important for some
people to
have the israel-palestine thing
happen
which I don't know if that's
even
actually a realm of possibility
but I
think there's a lot of people
who want
to help Iran and Russia and
China maybe
not Russia but China for sure
and Iran
we had a whole administration
doing that
just a couple years ago
enemy was in yes now you're
talking
now let's play this last bit
here which
starts with one thing and it
has it
actually segues out to we talk
about
something else the hectic rap
CBS a
Saudi plus other interesting
tidbits
which actually are interesting
trends
against Saudi Arabia but remains
reluctant to cancel a u.s. arms
deal
with the southeast President
Trump in
Nevada today said he's
considering
sanctions against South Arabia
but
remains reluctant to cancel a
u.s. arms
deal with the Saudis here's
Erin Burnett
we find the answer but it was a
big
first step it was a good first
step
before boarding Air Force One
in Nevada
today President Trump responded
to Saudi
Arabia's confirmation of Jamal
khashoggi
death expressing hesitation to
terminate
a new 110 billion dollar arms
deals I
think it's over a million jobs
that's
not helpful for us to cancel an
order
like that that hurts us far
more than it
hurts them the president says
he would
like to speak to Crown Prince
Mohammed
bin Salman a man Republican
Senator
Lindsey Graham said was toxic
and a
wrecking ball Congress will be
involved
in crafting a response to the
khashoggi
killing with senior Republicans
suggesting the expulsion of
Saudi
diplomats targeted sanctions or
curtailing any future arms
sales the
Democrats want to throw open
your
borders to deadly drugs and
gangs
this week the president has
been out
west holding rallies in support
of
Republican candidates fighting
close
midterm races also in Nevada
today is
former Vice President Joe Biden
supporting Democratic
candidates and
fueling speculation of a
potential 2020
presidential run effort to
divide the
country but we can't let it
work again
President Trump also announced
today he
is withdrawing the u.s. from a
nuclear
treaty with Russia which dates
back to
the Reagan administration and
the Soviet
Union a national security
spokesperson
telling CBS News Russia
continues to
produce prohibited Cruiser
all this is the president's
national
security advisor john bolton
heads to
moscow advisor john bolton
heads to
a lot of stuff in there yeah
well them
at least they're doing stuff
certainly
doing stuff yeah hey you know
I'm last
night stuff yeah hey you know
I'm last
Tina and I were invited by and
you'll
appreciate this the former New
York
bankers wife so the network
expands to a
actually pretty cool benefit
for the
bait oh well for the
contemporary Museum
in Austin now this is it's
actually very
famous Laguna Gloria which is
this this
beautiful house and they've got
their
art in there and it's got
sculptures and
it's a very poopoo hope Papa
Papa thing
here in Austin and I think I
believe
she's on the board no I'm sure
she's on
the board but she's also she's
also a
beto support her and there were
lots of
beto shirts although everyone
was
dressed up all spiffy spiffy
and nice oh
and they had their dead teepees
letes
Roberto it was Oliver and so we
met this
couple and you know kind of
like young
I'd say 30 mid 30s and he was
very quiet
kind of cocky SOI boy she was
she had a
cheating a long skirt on a nice
jacket
but underneath a big vote bed
oh and she
introduced herself as the I
guess the
regional or the Austin manager
for the
Beddoe campaign I'm like oh hey
that's
great so how's how's our boy
doing there
how's uh how's Robert Frane
that you'd
like to collect some signage
only for
god Johnny cuz it's not me it's
you I
forgot I can get anything I
want though
if you want to but you wanna
you want
one of the you want the
curtains you
want the bed Oh curtains
curtains
yeah there's curtains there's
better
curtains that people are
hanging up in
their windows Kurt the actual
curtains
wow that's good I'll get you
one of
those so so yeah and now and
and I have
to say both Tina and I we sleep
right
into it oh wow that's great
how's he
doing it oh wow that's great
how's he
you know like we care but a
very shot
provocateur very nice ed we're
big
phonies I was very impressed
with the
keepers he's right in
like are they gonna are they
gonna prop
him up like Obama yeah which I
thought
was a risque question but the
way she
says you said that no Tina said
it
totally gonna prop him up like
Obama oh
she said it in exactly the
right way
that it sounded like she was a
Politico
cuz I thought wow that's
aggressive if
you know careful what you say
they'll
they'll be on to us and kick
you out and
they would know oh yeah well
you know we
we all really and this is
insider stuff
now cuz she was whispering we
all really
think that you know he would be
great
for a 2020 run but he did
promise that
if he was elected he would he
would stay
on for six years and I went
yeah right
wink Wayne she said yeah you're
very
excited and so you know guys a
goofball
well here's what I noticed so
now
remember she's selling but she
presumes
I'm all better because I'm
there I'm on
the ground she expects me to be
all
better all the time
and and the arts arts community
thank
you very much and a couple of
things the
way she said it and of course I
wasn't
clandestinely recording I should
consider that was she so I'm
like you
know she used to Beto and I
said oh yeah
better I said yeah yeah I've
gotten my
friends have kicked my ass
because I
said Beto said well you know
his name is
Robert hit robert francis yeah
I know
Robert France yeah but you know
and that
she went is almost like
apologetic mode
well you know a lot of a lot of
people
they all have Hispanic in their
blood in
the San Antonio in bed I was
what they
all everyone has the Beto
nickname it's
not like he's not he's not
trying to
like you know appropriate any
culture or
anything and I didn't ask her
about that
and then so that was one then
the second
one it's like what is he gonna
make it
now at this point we're walking
past
another teepee where there's
people
laying on blankets and and
completely
chilled out wait wait wait
nether what
teepee yeah I told you there
was teepees
if this is like an outdoor
thing with
there were no you didn't I
didn't you
may have said something I
understand
here it it's commits all out
doors with campfires doors
outside the
museum on the ground yes yes
with all
the sculptures 'yes yes like
indian
teepees from one of the tribes
it is the
pro culturally appropriated
york are you
catching on
holy mackerel that's that's
disgusting
his fantastic and but you know
to make
it even better
the food was supplied by the top
restaurants in Austin like lip
Polly
Teague and yeah and the chefs
were there
so I had a great time talking
to chefs
and eating some of the free
food but you
know all under teepees which is
just a
beautiful contradiction of
everything so
so as we're walking past the
s'mores
station there's another little
teepee
and people are laid out and
there's a
lady with doing the singing
bowls you're
familiar with this we have a
Christmas
boil and then they energy mmm
yes here
remember the vibrator and they
start to
sing tune out so you know we're
walking
past that she's you know if the
black
seems magical is magic now hope
she
lowers her voice and I said
how's he
doing he's he's gonna win well
if the
blacks and Hispanics come out
he will
otherwise it'll go to cruise
and I just
thought just the way she said it
yeah I was like just the blood
if only
the blacks and Hispanics will
come out
then he'll win which I think
means he's
gonna lose for sure and they
know it of
course they sound like going
it's like a
like the dance party on the
Titanic you
were at but it also kind of
sounded like
she was yeah I don't know I
don't want
to say it sounded racist but it
felt a
little bit like that you know
not
because she didn't say African
Americans
I'm fine with blacks but the way
shouldn't know if the blacks and
Hispanics come out then then
he'll win
but sounds like he's got a
great he's
really lazy best so Beddoes a
definite
loss and the only other thing I
found of
great interest is now the
former New
York bankers wife she is in
charge of
what I will call the what she
caught
herself calls the Austin
welcoming
committee for newcomers and she
does a
party she hated it there
and she does a party every year
for the
newcomers which have mainly
been from
California and she just had
another one
she said Adam we had 50 people
and and
there was only one from
California said
but get this most of them were
from New
York and they're setting up
hedge funds
in Austin this is gonna be such
a great
place to live and and she said
there
were three people in media three
television media people who
have moved
here so that something is up
here
something is changing rapidly
we're
getting the douche bag hedge
fund guys
we've got all the California
techie
douches this is gonna be
fantastic
well I mean that Jeep you gotta
buy some
raw land or something there's
nothing of
its nothing's affordable here I
don't
have any money my raw land raw
huh so
anyway that's a little little
report and
I've met some new people so
hopefully
I'll get invited to something
better
related hmm well it sounds like
fun or
the Hillary 2020 campaign when
she when
she's ready hope we all get
invited to
that definitely will happen oh
yeah oh
yeah for sure you've got to get
involved
with both the Hillary side in
the other
and this sighted hates Hillary
because
other Democrats didn't know of
Hillary
can but they're not here
there's no
Hillary haters in Austin Texas
and again
it you have like it who else is
gonna
run besides Hillary beside your
Biden
Biden not five-month-old their
kill us
do you think I'll actually run
he wants
to you think I'll actually run
he wants
and I know you know and anyone
could
walk in anyone with the right
story at
the right moment could walk in
this is
what you know Cassio Cortez is
you know
it's too early for her she
can't pop on
this right now she's got it
she's just
got to make sure she gets into
New York
she could do she could be
interesting
2020 but no no one is really an
idiot
hello hello it doesn't matter
come on
Trump is dumb we all know that
he's
stupid is dumb we all know that
he's
yeah the billion it yeah he had
cookies
yacht I forgot about that
I think I think you sold the
yacht on so
he doesn't have it anymore
probably made
money on the deal of course he
did yeah
the only time he ever lost
money was in
aviation and that's easy he
lost money
in the casino other Ksenia cuz
he had to
go i had to declare bankruptcy
that
operation but this cuz he
wasn't it
wasn't mobbed up enough or he
wasn't
mobbed up with the right mob
members i
don't know yeah it's not it's a
business
that looks like a no-brainer
until you
get into it so now just as a
part of all
this I'll just take us in the
two clip
different direction
so while we're talking about
Mohammed
bin Salam
mr. Bullen saw mr. bone saw MBS
if you
remember one year ago we were
talking
about the apparent fact that
the their
mind that the las vegas
massacre might
have been an actual attack on
the prince
who was apparently in vegas at
the time
well they were shooting at the
wrong
place if it was an attack on
the prince
well there was shooting at
other hotels
if you remember there was all
kinds of
reports and this whole thing
was a scam
and and then of course we I
still
believe it was more of an Isis
event
that cuz they took credit for
it several
times several times yeah and
they never
had they don't take credit for
stuff
they don't do there's been
plenty of
things you haven't taken credit
for that
happened so there was another
final
final final report which I'm
sure is not
final that came out and I got
two clips
from one American news with
some guy
from I'm sure he's some pro-gun
lobby
group and he went through the
final
final and compared it to some
other
final finals and he said
there's a
number it has a number of
things that
have not been explained or
possibly
properly investigated and I
have two
clips here's the first one that
he feels
warrants more investigation or
more
information to the public in the
official police report the
final report
that just came out they stated
that no
evidence exists to indicate
padic
conspired with or acted in
collusion
with anyone else no evidence
exists
that's their their their claim
now at
9:20 p.m. this is when this TSA
woman
observed this to take place she
gives a
very nicely detailed report she
describes two women at the back
of the
concert the two women are
standing on
top of the bail of a and where
they have
a good vantage point to look
down on the
backs of the crowd facing
towards the
performer the first woman says
those
stupid effing white people they
are
going to know how it feels they
deserve
this wait until later and this
is about
a half hour before the shooting
begins
the second woman woohoo
like shooting fish in a barrel
are you
getting this baby I love you
now the
woman that says are you getting
this
baby is standing with her phone
live-streaming from the back of
the
concert what's going on now
while that
is not conclusive proof it's
decidedly
suspicious and has not been
followed up
on yeah I remember that report
about the
ladies streaming is streaming
something
to background I think it gives
us a good
eye so who like shooting fish
in a
barrel are you getting this
baby I love
you what do you think it's kind
of
gruesome but
then the you know that through
ports him
to sketchy to me and the whole
thing and
he wasn't followed up on for
good reason
the person's gone well do you
follow up
on it on anything like that so
this
guy's premise is the official
report
says he acted alone no one else
was
involved there is the issue of
the
deadbolt there is the issue of
the
so at 2136 he throws the
deadbolt to
three to 135 now this is very
important
ten minutes go by in the middle
of those
ten minutes the concert begins
now
as we've discussed before there
was
these were connecting rooms
three to one
through five and three two one
three
four we're connecting with an
interior
door so the one three five door
was not
opened precisely ten minutes
later the
deadbolt was thrown to one
three four so
four that's from the inside
that by the
way they have they have these
records so
that you know they have the
electronic
records at the door records so
it shows
what time what dead bolts were
thrown in
which rooms I don't know but I'm
wondering I don't I've seen
those I've
had to sweets our two rooms
adjoining
rooms with the thing in the
middle of
the dead but I don't know that
they're
that that particular door has a
mechanism on that records the
opening
closing of it no they do have a
record
of the regular lock and the
deadbolt
lock according to the FBI
report they
have that they received it and
that's
the infamous to the out does to
the hall
though nope it's also the
internal door
because it's two separate rooms
that's
why they have a record of it
even though
they're connected they have it
you can
lock them I know I know you can
lock it
because there's a door with a
locking on
it but
well you're arguing something
we can't
argue about because that's the
FBI's
record not have not this guy go
on so
that's from the inside so that
is
absolute conclusive proof of
with no
doubt whatsoever because one
two three
five three two one three five
was not
opened again that interior door
was used
to throw the deadbolt on one
three four
or there was a second person in
there to
do it there is no other way so
that
interior door fast forward a
half hour
or so after the shooting
paddocks dead
the police breached the door
two three
two one three five fine
paddocks dead
body they themselves the police
could
not get into one three four
they tried
to kick through the door
couldn't do it
and had to breach the door so
that they
could enter one three four that
deadbolt
on the passage door between the
two
rooms was dead bolted from the
one three
four side now we know that
prior to the
shooting that door either had
to be open
so that paddock could go
through and
lock the one three four door to
the
hallway or somebody else was in
that
room it has to be one of the
two sounds
sounds confusing to me
well we don't buy any of it so
it's not
confusing at all you know what
I mean
the now where was MBS what he
was that
he was at I want to say I don't
remember
which hotel he was at but they
were
shooting also at this hotel no
but there
was also reports of shots fired
in other
hotels I mean there's so much
information will happen we have
to know
what the scheme you got decide
well
actually I'm not even gonna
throw this
theory out there because I
still think
the ISIS the idea was good it
was solid
yeah they took credit for it
all right
terrorists it's full theory was
the
fault the full theory was that
paddock
was going to sell these weapons
to Isis
it was a sting he was working
with the
feds and it went bad and these
guys
decided not to buy the guns but
to kill
this guy and then shoot all the
people
at the concert from the window
and then
split that was I think the are
full
thesis and then Isis claimed it
three
four times yeah now the other
possibility of course if this
had
anything to do the NBS was that
this was
done as a distraction because
it would
get all police resources and
everything
out of the way
that yes and then there you go
after MBS
who may have gotten wind of it
or or he
wasn't it where they expected
to be or
yet it you know what don't
who knows what if you got guys
that'll
go in and chop a guy up to take
him out
in bits and pieces I'm sure
they don't
have much problem in killing a
whole
bunch of Whitey's so they can
go get the
prints if they need to just as a
distraction yeah but for sure
we're not
we're the truth is being
withheld
well they don't even want to
speculate
no that's how bad it is
I mean even the talking heads
on CNN
don't talk about anything they
just mean
they do they talk about Trump
Trump
Trump Trump is ridiculous so
okay well
knit onward yeah I was
wondering if you
if you had a stupid CNN clip of
them
going Trump Trump Trump no but
I should
I risk that clip that's going
around
which I have yet to cliff I
should have
clipped it which is a it's you
can find
it it's the it's the Trump on
all this
dude with the date time line at
the
upper right-hand side and it's
Trump's
gonna be impeached Trump's
gonna quit
tomorrow Trump's gonna wait oh
wait did
we talk to each other in our
dreams last
night I have to mention cuz you
don't
see this this is a series of
just
pronouncements by CNN MSNBC and
all
these other Fox as well
foxes and the thing that's
interesting
it starts when he's elected
there's a
little time stamp in the upper
right
hand corner showing the date of
these
comments and it starts like in
2016 and
goes right through 27 all of
2017 and
goes in the 2018 and it's and
it's in
chronological order
it is hearing this in other
words we've
been hearing this for the last
almost
last two years Donald Trump's
done he's
done there's no question about
that he's
done breaking news a bombshell
today is
a turning point today was
historically
bad for President Trump today
was a
turning point it's turning
point we're
at a turning point here the
beginning of
the I also like how it shows
you the
talking points and how the
headlines
continuously become the same
everyone
uses the same bombshell turning
point a
pin point for the Trump
presidency the
beginning of the end breaking
news we
have another bombshell Mike
Pence might
have to assume the office of the
presidency the call for an
appeasement
rumblings of the word
impeachment we're
still in 2016 I think here
the bombshell out of the White
House I
believe this is the beginning
of the end
it's really the beginning of
the end the
beginning of the end you may be
feeling
the walls closing in on all the
walls
closing in on him walls closing
in on
him breaking news a new
bombshell one
astrologer says this means the
beginning
of the end for president Donald
Trump
the beginning of the end of the
trump
presidency troubled assignment
Trump is
going to resign
is this the tipping point I
know we've
said it over and over you think
this is
a tipping point and over and
over this
is a tipping point and over and
over off
the rails there's the beginning
of the
end today it's the beginning of
the end
it reminds me a lot of the last
days of
Nixon breaking news tonight new
bombs
show this is the beginning at
the end
the beginning of the end the
walls are
closing in the walls closing in
the
walls closing and breaking
overnight
bombshells matic day and i
think it
might be near a tipping point
you think
this is a tipping point this is
unbelievable this is remarkable
have you
ever seen anything like this his
presidency is crippled December
1st 2017
you can mark it down this is
the day
that everything changed we
begin with
the bombshell the beginning of
the end
the beginning of the end the
beginning
of the end the beginning of the
end the
beginning of the end at the
beginning of
the end in fact if this were a
football
game we're in the third quarter
may even
be the beginning of the end we
begin
tonight with the bombshell
Donald Trump
isn't a lot of trouble Trump
isn't
trouble the president will
resign
another hour another bombshell
this is a
tipping point what's going down
this
president could be impeached I
do not
think the president will serve
out his
term resignation resignation I
don't
think this president is gonna
serve out
his term mr. Trump will not
serve out
his term he will not serve out
his term
no way no how
breaking news an absolute
bombshell I
think that all chuck was in
trouble
Donald Trump is not he's done
it's over
it's over the walls closing in
walls
closing in this is going to be
the
Achilles heel breaking news
tonight I
expect Trump to depart this
week will be
the watershed we Trump is in
big trouble
trouble it's a sign of a
terrified old
man who feels the walls closing
in the
walls are increasingly closing
in on him
tonight the walls are closing
them today
changed everything this is the
beginning
of the end today the biggest
tipping
point for the trumpet Minister
what a historic day the
bombshells they
felt its entropy and it's
crumbling
internally he's underwater he
feels the
walls closing in quit his
testimony be a
turning point we may be at a
tipping
point it's the beginning of the
end at
the beginning of the end another
bombshell bombshell bombshell
bombshell
bombshell bombshell this is a
bombshell
it is a bombshell I'm beginning
to
resent the word bombshell all
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we really hate our country we
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Belgians yes we give us we
surrender to
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that's actually what people are
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in the UK one of our producers
there
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of mine
went and protested as well and
I said
you know why why do you want
someone in
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almost
universally well at least it'll
be
better than the people who are
doing
nothing for us now which is
kind of a
frightening concept well they
are doing
nothing because belge they're
doing
nothing for the obvious reason
they've
already given themselves over
to Belgium
they're trying to get their
sovereignty
back which they're not gonna
manage it
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it's not logical what they
would did
what that answer is
no it's already turned it over
to
Belgians so it's not like
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Belgian protests brexit do over
or is it
Belgian London process okay
tens of
thousands of activists gathered
in
central London today to demand
a new
nationwide referendum on brexit
nearly
150 buses brought protesters to
the
capital from all over the
country to
take part in the demonstrations
Britain
is scheduled to leave the
European Union
on March
29th heated government
negotiations on
brexit have been taking place
ever since
a 2016 referendum Conservative
Party
Prime Minister Theresa May has
so far
ruled out another public vote
on brenson
you really got to make sure you
don't
get your window sounds in your
recordings it's happening a lot
in the
past in the past couple of
weeks I this
is going to happen probably not
all a
lot but it's gonna happen every
so often
I find it amusing I can go back
and
relive that but what I I've
changed my
methodology for getting my
clips yeah
that's clear so and so as I'm
dicking
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clip I'll
click on something and then
I'll get
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apparent reason
that Windows likes to make that
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know how
to turn it off but you find it
amusing
yet I have for years done my
best to
make sure none of those into the
recordings stick up my ass
about it so
and it doesn't bother me so I
don't have
a stick up my ass about it
either I'm
just saying a little
professionalism
would go around a long way here
Theresa
May and apparently in the
killing zone I
think she's out she's done this
is it
this this was all kind of him a
part of
which gives us enough time
because March
is you know it's still a long
ways away
to do that redo and then just
queer the
deal and just give up
sovereignty and
become best part of Belgium who
will
become the PM know that we need
a new
Prime Minister you can't have
Theresa
May with an with a do-over on
the vote
she has to leave she's gonna
you know
the word is she'll be out
within three
days I didn't hear this hmm was
I have a
head Daily Mail come on the
Daily Mail
Daily Mail no you must play
that three
minutes of Trump stuff again
now Theresa May is in the
killing zone
prime ministers warned she has
72 hours
to save her job
yeah bullshit ma they move
pretty
quickly there in the UK's when
they hate
you then you can be out pretty
fast okay
so you're saying you want to
put money
up well when I can put money ho
we could
make a gentleman's agreement
bet that by
next Thursday she's done is
that what
you're saying no that's what
the Daily
Mail is saying okay but I think
she
she'll be out she has she has
nothing to
show for it everyone hates
everyone
hates her oh good yeah or maybe
she
needs a health emergency
something has
to happen something's got to
give and I
guess it'll be between Bojo
Boris
Johnson or maybe even the
Destiny labor
doesn't take over Sadiq Sadiq
Khan would
be Prime Minister is that what
everyone's pushing for I could
be great
that guy would never get there
they've lost their marbles
their mouths
they've lost their marbles they
are
actually voting for other
countries to
take care of them they lost
their
marbles great the great British
Empire
ladies and gentlemen it's
unbelievable
and it's just because they've
been lied
to they don't people in England
most
don't understand they don't
they haven't
figured it out yet but you're
really on
the short end of this stick
well they'll find out
eventually don't
you have any more breakfast I
gotta
bring somebody somebody yeah I
have a
comment somebody sent me a note
or tweet
about this and they said well
you know
it's like was nothing that
wrong I wish
I should go get the tweet it
means
there's nothing that cuz I'm
bitching
about this being this is a
globalist
movement there's nothing wrong
with
globalism when you don't have
you know
it's safer you had the two
world wars
you know we're led to this and
it's we
need to have globalism you
something
like that globalism is what
brings you
periodic wars you moron the
problem is
we were in a globalist movement
in the
early 1900s
yeah it brought no borders no
no nothing
and that's why these guys
assassin could
go over and shoot Prince
Ferdinand II
just there was nothing to stop
him from
going there it was no borders I
have an
idea let's give them bet oh you
guys can
have bet oh he'll be great
here's
Michael Cain famous actor
award-winning
actor he's a brexit here so I
don't
listen to all these pundits I
don't lie
I'm a brexit em myself you know
oh yeah
certainly a and an audible gasp
is heard
across the country BBC and the
guy was a
gasps you still are really how
can you
still be yeah certainly and
people say
oh you'll be poor you'll be
this you'll
be dead I said well I'd rather
be a poor
master of my fate than having
someone I
don't know
making me rich by running it
mmm next
set what some people say is
hang on a
second but you still have to do
deals
around the world you still have
to have
relations yeah we have to do
I've seen
I'd finally seen this week a
little
something of what I've said all
along
they said imports we're going
to impose
these taxes from Britain oh
don't you go
wait a minute has anybody told
the the
boss of Volkswagen or Mercedes
about
this and now the German car
companies
have started to grumble about
this tax
it's a mess it's a complete and
utter
mess I I get the biggest kick
out of
these Brits
go oh my God we're gonna have
to do our
own trade deals we're gonna
have this is
the this is the Empire the
Great British
yes the Great British Empire
which was
ruling the world from the
sunset to
sunrise I said the Sun never
sets on the
British Empire because at any
given time
the Sun was bouncing off of
some some
Colin yes the Sun never sets on
the
Empire and they had this like
this was a
trading operation and they were
the
world's with some of the world's
greatest businessmen and
greatest
traders and now they're gonna
if they're
freaked out because they can't
do a
simple deal that you know the
sell some
nuts and bolts to somebody some
Jam to
the United States some
Cadbury's you
know some box hauls some
Vauxhall
automobiles well of course from
the Bank
of England came in which is a
private
bank that's when it all went
downhill
and unless we ever decide to
annihilate
the Federal Reserve our fate as
Vladimir
Putin probably correctly
asserts will be
taste bleak at the end of the
road
there's no doubt that's how it
goes but
the giving into it because of
lack of
information and complete mind
control
through your state run and
people funded
media mind-boggling I tell you
mind-boggling yeah it's
something it's a
mess but it's not much better
anywhere
else in Europe you know the
only thing
and I'm I am on the fence about
which
way to interpret this but for a
time for
a while now they've been
talking about
it it seems like now there this
may be
the last time or maybe will be
one more
year where we have daylight
saving time
in the European Union as
there's now a
serious discussion in the
European Union
Parliament to let each of the
28 member
states which use of known as
countries
but now their member states to
decide
their own time
this is this is now now it's
either hey
we give you guys a lot of
freedom right
beside your own time I mean
what more do
you want
so it's either hey let's make
them think
they're really in control of
something
by letting them decide whether
they move
their clock or not or this is
the death
knell chaos is coming imagine if
everyone in these you know if
neighbors
right next door change when
they change
the clock what time it is
it's a engineering nightmare
well the
joke is is that this is the
sort of
thing that you'd want the
European Union
to standardize everything else
like how
many feathers should be in a
pillow
exactly but no we're gonna give
you guys
power here you go so here you
go member
states determine your own time
slaves
yeah it's an insult
does nobody see this no no they
see it
as positive oh great oh yeah
this is the
way the EU should work we have
sovereignty over our own clocks
take
this do peasants
there's no other way to see it
ah right I just wish befuddling
yeah now
I know I know all right what
else we got
oh my god I got lots of stuff I
got lots
of Mau Mau Papa mama ma papa
everybody's
talking about the birth
I think we should discuss the
Ebola
thing okay
I have nothing on Ebola you
have the
jingle oh yeah and which jingle
do you
want alright there's some
interesting
information there's little
kickers in
here this is the Ebola report
and then
we we can talk about it well
let me let
me do any bola jingle then this
is just
a random Ebola jingle
[Applause] random Ebola jingle
[Music] random Ebola jingle
[Applause] random Ebola jingle
[Music] random Ebola jingle
[Applause] random Ebola jingle
[Music] random Ebola jingle
[Applause] random Ebola jingle
Oh random Ebola jingle
[Applause] random Ebola jingle
since August another deadly
outbreak of
Ebola has been ravaging the
Democratic
Republic of the Congo killing
dozens
health workers say new
medicines and the
development of a vaccine are
making the
job of treating Ebola easier
however this outbreak is in the
middle
of a war zone where a
decades-long
battle continues the World
Health
Organization says the risk that
the
disease will spread even to
neighboring
countries is very high Newshour
weekend
special correspondent Benedict
Moran and
video journalist Jurgen Sam so
have this
report from the town of Beni a
warning
viewers might find some images
disturbing in this clinic in
the city of
many in the Democratic Republic
of the
Congo doctors are treating a
new patient
it's a 13 year old girl who
recently
tested positive for Ebola virus
disease
Ebola can cause headaches fever
and
severe hemorrhaging without
treatment
it's nearly always fatal so
time is of
the essence I'm in the process
of
helping my colleague in the cube
regulate the patient's IV drip
we are
working together I can help
from the
outside nearby are more
patients Janine
in the white shirt and her two
sisters
have been here for three weeks
seven
members of their family are
already dead
when mother died of Ebola we
didn't know
what it was we thought she was
poisoned
my uncle died my cousin my aunt
my mom
my own brother and my own
sister they
all died treating Jeanine and
other
Ebola patients is difficult
they need to
be closely monitored doctors
and nurses
need to be able to help without
putting
themselves at risk before this
outbreak
most hospitals in this region
didn't
have facilities that were
capable of
treating Ebola patients this
year health
workers have introduced a new
tool they
call it the cube Ebola spreads
lose
contact with bodily fluids and
the cube
allows additional health
workers to
treat patients from the outside
without
wearing cumbersome protective
gear the
dick young needs to the floor
it would
take 15 minutes to be able to
enter the
room now in a couple minutes we
can be
helping a patient all right who
makes
this cube you know what it is
can you
imagine you try to describe for
me what
you think they're talking about
it
sounds like a huge tent it
looks very
much like a
[Music] like a
Nik you like infant an infant
the ICU
where you stick your arms
through two
holes and then you're cutting
they'll be
no bingo I got him yeah yeah
that's
exactly what it is who makes
this
wonderful device that I don't
know some
client where where is this
where's this
outbreak again Congo yeah
there's
something going on with Congo
you think
they need to get in there we
got so many
jingles now we got we get well
that's
what I'm trying to do I'm
trying to you
know work the jingles it ass
work now
now I had there's a couple of
gotchas in
this there's a couple of very
interesting little little
zingers in the
second part of this and I want
to see if
you could spot even one of them
it
better be something about
Chinese
getting sick because that's the
only
reason that's common there are
a medical
personnel here from all over
Congolese
physicians international
humanitarian
organizations the World Health
Organization and others just a
couple
years ago they could give no
medicines
for Ebola this year they're
using new
experimental drugs now patients
can
receive donated medicine within
hours of
being admitted because of the
crisis a
Congolese an international
panel of
experts approve the use of the
new drugs
before they ordinarily would
the WHL
calls this a paradigm shift now
we call
this testing on poor black
people as
what we call has the gall to
say we call
this a paradigm paradigm shift
instead
of instead of testing it on
mice we
shift the paradigm the testing
and on
black people one hand you're
currently
nervous because not many people
have
given these drugs before and
not many
people have received them
but on the other hand there's a
sense of
excitement and a sense of hope
because
for the first time we have
something
that we can use to directly
fight
against we can use to directly
fight
there's also a new vaccine a
2015 field
trial in West Africa found a
vaccine to
be quote effective so though it
too
isn't yet fully approved by
global
health authorities more than
15,000
people in this region have been
vaccinated on compassionate
grounds the
goal is to forestall an
epidemic Wow
they've been vaccinated on
compassionate
grounds in other words well you
might
die from the shot but at least
we love
you authorities wait hold on
the thing is earlier in there
you missed
this one which I thought was
very
quizzical and I heard this what
would
you say this is the vaccine has
been
quote effective and a sense of
hope
because for the first time we
have
something that we can use to
directly
fight against the virus there's
also a
new vaccine a 2015 field trial
in West
Africa found the vaccine to be
quote
effective you die but quote is
affected
well it's effective in killing
you it
too isn't yet fully approved by
global
health authorities now more
than 15,000
people in this region have been
vaccinated on compassionate
grounds the
Kings to forestall an epidemic
one that
could sweep the region and
beyond man ok
good I'm glad you brought the
flips in
fact that one actually I think
that
deserves a border liner because
there
was some good stuff in there
[Music] some good stuff in there
everybody now good one John Wow
okay so
we're killing people as you is
this bill
and gates locate mrs. Billa
melinda
gates foundation quote-unquote
who is uh
who's running this OP said
everybody and
their sister apparently is
there he's
well let's talk about drugs for
a moment
I've stayed on the story which
i think
is pretty big the drug price
requirement
now that the I think it's it's
going
into effect it'll won't go into
effect
this you won't go into effect
probably
until 2019 but the idea is just
like you
there's some requirements for
side
effects there's also
requirements like
in a car commercials you're
miles per
gallon and a lot in this in the
small
print but the Trump
administration came
out and said look we need you
guys to
put the monthly retail price
that's the
top the top line the the big
the big
amount you got to put it in
really big
letters on the screen so
everybody knows
and it's confusing a lot of
people it's
not confusing NPR that much
because NPR
I don't think they have a lot
of Pharma
underwriters as we call them
quote-unquote underwriters
sponsors
advertisers whatever you want
to call
them so they can still talk
about it you
don't hear much of this convo
anywhere
on the mainstream because
certainly
cable news lives from the oh
the network
news - yeah they live from the
five
billion it's actually it's four
point
two four television and it's
about
another billion and a half for
print and
and other an online I guess I'm
surprised online doesn't get
more maybe
the numbers are off but this is
this is
a big moment this - there's two
big ad
the three big advertisers
Verizon is the
huge advertiser telco is big
Verizon
AT&T Sprint and t-mobile but
Verizon is
the biggest advertiser in the
United
States and then you have the
pharma
companies who collectively
billions of
dollars and it all goes to
certainly the
the pharmaceutical ads just
watch some
television you'll see it that's
where
they are it's on cable news so
let's
talk about this with our
friends over at
NPR mainly the required
that the government has put on
the
industry sure so on Monday oh
yeah
you're gonna love this
millennial
there's a couple of good
Millennials on
NPR these days sure so I'm just
gonna
keep playing it sure so on
Monday the
administration proposed a rule
that
would require drug companies to
list a
product's monthly wholesale
price or the
cost of a typical course of
treatment if
a monthly price doesn't make
sense
listen to her she's so her
should not be
allowed in professional news
reporting
in my old-fashioned opinion if
the drug
cost more than $35 for 30 days
and the
information of how to appear in
TV ads
in a written format and Mason
would have
to appear in TV ads in a
written format
and have to be large enough for
people
to read so you couldn't just
you know
kind of put that tiny fine
print in
there and they are also
suggesting to
include some other language
like a
statement that patients with
health
insurance may pay a different
sum than
this amount now you thought
she's just a
Hummer but no no she's an up
talker as
she talks about the legalities
of all of
this HHS have the power to
compel
pharmaceutical companies to do
this it
wasn't clear to me if Congress
had given
the Department of Health and
Human
Services that power well that's
definitely a question that
people are
debating this week and I think
the
fursuit achill industry thinks
they
don't and plans to file they've
indicated they will likely file
legal
action those grounds HHS is
saying that
there's been there's a lot of
Supreme
Court precedent and First
Amendment
rulings that says that the
federal
government can require
disclosure of
factual information from
companies
disclosure furthers some
government
interest and it's not
burdensome they
pointed to cases like car ads
for car
man car what is this she's a
reporter
she's not just some some
schmuck calling
and she's a reporter for
yard and she talks about car
ads and
about car companies and about
pharmaceuticals the factors are
also
required to disclose this
there's a
number of other industries some
insurance industries have to do
this as
well they also say basically
they're
using their authority that
Congress has
given Medicare and Medicaid to
operate
efficiently and because almost
my coffee
on now given Medicare Medicaid
to
operate efficiently she better
be really
hot man I'm yeah and because
she's not
that can influence utilization
of
patient people using drugs
maybe lead
people to seek out drugs that
they might
not otherwise meet or costs
more than
other medications that could
affect
their condition they're saying
this fits
into this broad efficiency
mandate
Congress has given them okay
she's gonna
fall apart the vocal fry is
gonna break
up she's gonna need some
pharmaceuticals
by the by the end of her
reporting
career so now we move to a farm
of
lobbyists yes we want some guys
on the
other side to tell us what is
going on
with this and we have to resist
resist
so first of all I'm seeing here
that the
Department of Health and Human
Services
says that the drug industry has
spent
more than five and a half
billion
dollars on advertising in 2017
nearly
4.2 billion of that on
television ads
and HHS also says that that
advertising
can result in increased
utilization
through patients demanding
costly drugs
and products based on messaging
government costs what is it
with the
reads on NPR even the serious
ones are
talking it's like what what is
happening
what makes this happen this is
not this
is not something to you
yeah I think just pick it up in
the
milieu next thing you know
you're in the
milieu and the next thing you
know
you're talking like this yeah
all of a
sudden you just have to say I'm
going to
presume that if pharmaceutical
companies
are spending more than four
billion
dollars on television
advertising that
perhaps there's some truth to
what HHS
is saying that it can influence
patient
choices no wait what you're
telling me
advertising can influence
someone's
choice if the advertising is
that
effective I just want to get to
why the
the pharma industry is is
resisting the
idea of having some price
transparency
in those ads isn't it one of
the best
ways to inform patients I mean
you're
informing them about all the
potential
benefits of the page inform
them of the
material cost does not
understand a
commercial network she'd be off
you
can't that you crazy woman I'd
fire her
yeah sure so I think two things
number
one I don't think it impacts
per se
choices I think it does impact
awareness
though what I think ads are
meant to do
is raise awareness about a
particular
disease and lead a patient to
have a