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November 4th, 2018 • 2h 52m

1083: The Zoomer

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bullcrap Adam curry Jhansi Devorah this
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is your award-winning Gitmo nation media
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assassination episode 1083 this is no
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agenda morning everybody
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I'm Adam curry and from northern Silicon
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Valley where a slew of motorcyclists
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just went down the freeway having the
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time of their lives while we're working
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I'm Jesse Devorah well now we do know
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you have owned a motorcycle license at
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one point in your life yes well I owned
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a couple of motorcycles too do you still
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have have a an operating license you
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know it was foolish for me but somehow
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you wouldn't laughs check a box I mean I
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can go take the test and get it get it
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on there again but I've driven a
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motorcycle without them produced out the
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thing off because though I don't think
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anybody notices but it's kind of what
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kind of bikes did you own just out of
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curiosity I had a Kawasaki Mach 3 a
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little hot rod rice burner
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we had a 750 triple this world
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two-stroke 750 two-stroke yeah they have
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like a canister of oil that you just
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apply continuously it didn't smoke as
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much as you think
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Wow and 750 CC two-stroke engine yeah
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geez yes crazy powerful bike I used to
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drive that but he had a Honda for that
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four-cylinder little guy I think was I
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forgot what that I think was 750 - is
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that nice for work bikes I'm pretty big
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stuff I only like bikes that were fast
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because I felt they were safer
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they were I think they are I've make
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this argument a bike that's fat there's
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nothing out of control I mean they have
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some my friend of mine in bought a 1250
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Kawasaki or something's that twelve
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hundred and fifty C season it was it was
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so dangerous that I was it was too fast
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but you want to be able to stop and go
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quickly because the did yes or guess
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this is true it's true
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and the only time I almost got into
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trouble was when I driving somebody let
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me drive their Honda 50
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so he's laying a 50cc just like a motor
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yeah I'd like a moped basically moped
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well the Honda 50 was a little more than
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a moped but you might as well have been
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a moped and the thing was like there
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goes a zephyr
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one two three four five
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the thing was unbelievably dangerous it
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wouldn't stop it wouldn't go I was a I
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would never get on one of those okay hey
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by the way had voted early voting geez
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get in mind you vote the early voting
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everybody got a vote early voted you
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vote John did you do an early vote early
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votes do we have oh you can get a
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everybody's early voting early voting
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everyone in Austin I voted pictures on
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Instagram I have to say I early voted
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and it was quite an experience here in
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Oslo why well so Tina had it had to go
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to Chicago for the weekend for the week
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so she wouldn't be here for Election Day
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so I'm gonna vote early and before to
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the airport Friday we went to the City
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Hall airport Friday we went to the City
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now I've voted at the City Hall before
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but Wow the line was about an hour what
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yeah yeah it's been that way
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continuously it's been very very busy
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and so we're standing in line and I see
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on the screen on the big telescreen this
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again is in City Hall I see the mayor
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talking and the sound is off but they
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have closed captions I'm like but that's
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not really cool I mean the guys on the
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ballot there's other people on the
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ballot and he's got a little promo reel
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running all electioneering that can't do
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that that's what I said and then I of
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course saw the next video because it was
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it was all of the candidates have little
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video so I'm like okay I'm kind of a
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douche right now as you know III agree
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it's because of sequins etc I only saw
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four of the I think we have seven
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candidates as you know I want miss
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Steven Mayer Steven have out he's a liar
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and he's allowed all these these just
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bedlam mayhem in the streets of downtown
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Austin not doing anything for the
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homeless and just more of these dams
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Motors coming in without any proper
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regulation so I was already planning on
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voting against him and there's this
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woman Linda something well she's yeah
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like a scientist and you know she's run
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City God I'll vote for her she she seems
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like the best but then the third or the
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fourth video comes by and on the spot
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John I changed my vote for the mayor of
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Austin Texas because of the video I saw
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in City Hall while I was standing there
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and I agree it should actually be
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illegal but it worked I cast my vote
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proudly for Alexander stringer for mayor
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of Austin Texas and I would like to play
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a bit of his campaign video for you to
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understand why the city of Austin is at
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a crisis and we need strong leadership
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now more than ever before Donald J Trump
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wants to build a wall around the u.s.
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southern border and I say that we can do
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better and that is why as mayor I
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propose that we build a dome around the
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City of Austin in order to keep away
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California refugees and we are going to
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make Buber pay for it when we build the
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dome and kick out the Californians
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Austin will once again be affordable to
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the locals and we will no longer have a
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traffic problem wait for police
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shootings are at an all-time high
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bordering on epidemic proportions and
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that is why as mayor of Austin I promise
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to take guns away from all the police
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officers and replace them with
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flamethrowers we are going to end police
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shootings and we are going to keep our
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city safe I love this guy he's talking
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my loner with a goofball candidate
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totally dome around Austin way flame
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throwers I like the way he puts a little
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tweeting birds in there no no he's
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outside that's it's it's so little
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that's not sweetness no John John if you
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saw the video it's done on a like an
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iPhone it's he's standing outside in
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front of City Hall it's real that means
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he's just
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you listen to the wind noise in the next
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piece furthermore as a former substitute
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teacher in the Austin Independent School
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District there is nothing that I care
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more about than the safety of our
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children and that is why we are giving
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flamethrowers to the teachers as well
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I'm telling the guys aren't ooh
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something put a dome around Austin and
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give everybody a flamethrower that
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deserves my vote
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well might as well vote
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Alexander stringer for me mayor of
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Austin Texas yeah might as well for sure
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so that guy's so Megaman the ramp to the
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elections that was I found on CBS and
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when it has all its wood the CBS you
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know all these networks you know they
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try to this is they're there overnight
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24/7 operation there and then there's no
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this is the the network this is a
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internet operation oh oh yes okay I
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noticed yeah they're on this is this is
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one of their main anchors and she's you
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know she can't quite you know they at
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the end of this whole thing they they
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try to stay objective but this is this
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is sneaks in you know that Republicans
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are selling fear the Democrats who come
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out the end of democracy we're all gonna
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die yes that's not fear that's hope
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anyway so let's play a wrap to election
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CBS and round up one final sprint ahead
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of Tuesday's midterms and both parties
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are bringing out their heavy hitters
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president Trump Criss crossing the
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country this weekend hoping to give an
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edge to Republican candidates in Montana
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on Saturday the president ramped up his
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anti-immigration rhetoric and fear
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tactics and what it what is if what
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FairTax tactics yeah very good yeah very
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very good
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Oh beautiful yeah but meanwhile of
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course they I mean I just stop for a
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second for people not in America what
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happens here around our election time
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does everyone just goes apeshit and
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there's nothing else is happening in the
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world I don't care what you say it's all
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about this and in this case prop B odd I
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would say 90% is all promoting a
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democratic Democratic candidate and
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saying Donald Trump is horrible and in
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fear and then you have yeah Fox and
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you've got what else do we have on TV
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that that really that is more right
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nothing that really really yeah but yeah
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and they're doing the same they're doing
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the same about the Democrats being
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noticeable I don't know if you have a
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dare but here it's mostly propositions
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cuz we don't have any I mean there are
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people running against each other but
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you have nothing for the guy running for
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governor Cox this guy
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right decisis kipping the money I guess
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but the so they're just gonna give it
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their might get crown gavin newsom as
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the governor hmm
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which is probably okay cuz he's kind of
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a do-nothing guy so he might he might be
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good governor by not doing anything but
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it's ad after ad after ad I was watching
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a series with his they had a YES on 10
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no on 10 yes on 10 do me one ad after
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proposition yes no yes no yes no say
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holy mackerel networks or the stations
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were just rolling in dough oh yeah it's
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just fantastic
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I mean we're even seeing a lot of beto
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advertisements which you I mean wide
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advertise that in Austin that doesn't
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seem necessary but they're doing no
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sense they're doing anyway so let's go
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so meanwhile the Christian we're gonna
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stand this ramp store yeah but just
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throwing the money you understand that
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if they if if Beto does not spend all 69
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million dollars the next time it comes
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around you got me you got to spend the
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budget and say I wasn't enough so
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they're just what fuck it do someone
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Austin let's just get rid of the money
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yeah I agree this is almost like
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government work well you know if you
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don't hit your budget up to par is gonna
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be got to spend it got to spend it oh we
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had to spend it we need more we spent it
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all we need more yeah that's the classic
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but so we meanwhile they CBS if they can
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is they're gonna balance their reporting
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with the fear-mongering they did a good
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job here because as we go on to ramp to
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you get to hear the ludicrous that's
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almost like Joe Biden I guess was struck
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oh I have a clip let's play grab two and
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you'll hear someone okay mother I don't
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have that much of a clip there and fear
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tactics Democrat Party for free health
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care free welfare free education the
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right to vote because they figure that's
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the way they stay in office forever in
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Ohio Homer Vice President Joe Biden
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participated in an Ohio Democratic Party
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get out the vote rally with senator
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sherrod Brown and Ohio gubernatorial
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nominee Richard Cordray with a hoarse
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voice he expressed the importance of
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voting on Tuesday only thing strong
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enough whoa
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is America we've seen it start
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pancit juice is all about so in
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conclusion we Democrats have to make it
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clear who we are we choose hope over
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fear who we are we choose hope over
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Sabrina tzatziki is a CBS and political
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contributor and political reporter at
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The Guardian okay she goes on to that
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here's the the quick clip I had of Biden
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presented as a unnamed illness Joe Biden
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even with laryngitis lending his voice
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to Democrats as they attempt to take
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control of the House and Senate you know
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who else was walking around with a
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hoarse voice was Obama he's also losing
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his voice you see you know we can do
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this we can do the Trump thing they just
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yell and scream and they can't they're
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literally losing their voices over
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trying to imitate his animation or and
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whatever they feel is necessary and they
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just can't do it
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Sabrina Siddiqui is a CBS n political
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contributor and political reporter at
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The Guardian okay
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homestretch Sabrina what are really the
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closing arguments and the strategy that
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both sides are trying to make at this
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point well I think it's been striking to
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see the way in which the president
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Republicans have really leaned in on
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this migrant caravan trying to frame
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this is an immigration crisis when of
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course you have had migrants fleeing
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poverty and violence in Central America
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dating back to 2014 frankly President
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Obama dealt with a surge of
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unaccompanied minors during the 2014
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midterms and so that was a very
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political issue but it speaks to the
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fact that Republicans are really not
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running on the tax cuts that they
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enacted last year because those are not
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very popular the American public you
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know the messaging that I saw
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continuously over the weekend was whoa
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whoa why isn't he running on the economy
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that makes so much
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is doing good he should run on the
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economy no needs to be fears to be fear
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and the downplaying is caravan with this
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exact same people maybe two weeks ago
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like oh there's thousands coming and now
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I was like oh trump's afraid of moms and
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strollers and it's it's idiotic it's a b
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and you people who watch too much of
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this they go crazy yeah it's a whipsaw
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it's very difficult to stay sane
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i mean i smoke a lot of weed and i do
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this show so like i'm good but it's very
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confusing for people not healthy not
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healthy for people not healthy not
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well you doesn't help when you have the
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Guardian and the me of these same
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newspapers was really bit analysis
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that's me o guardian meddling in our in
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our elections UK spy rag yes democrats
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by contrast they're obviously making
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this about being much bigger than just
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this particular moment it's about
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president Trump and this being a
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referendum on his tenure in office and
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really the future of the country and
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what their countries I then do first
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when you look at president Trump's final
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schedule the the blitz that he's sort of
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different stop that he's making what do
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you read from his campaign you mean
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blitz like blitzkrieg you noticed it you
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have to go back and listen to carefully
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because I didn't notice it the first one
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I we actually initially clipped it
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wouldn't hurt us at all she know you
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know blitz is like implying he's Hitler
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so she says blitz and then she she's
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really good I like this woman she's a
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very good newsreader she caught herself
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but she didn't caught her catch yourself
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like an Amy Goodman or somebody wouldn't
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just mobile and flub she caught herself
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smoothly and smoothly corrected it in
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such a way that I don't think you'd have
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to listen to this thing over and over to
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catch the whole the moment where she
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uses Blitz yeah I get that he's sort of
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different stops that he's making what do
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you read from his campaign schedule well
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yeah I guess I didn't go back far enough
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hearing idiot their country's identity
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looks like when you look at president
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Trump's final schedule the the blitz
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that he's sort of different stops that
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he's making yeah you're right
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you caught it real quick didn't she it
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was good very good at this she is good
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she's very good it's great when you look
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at president Trump's final schedule the
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the blitz that he's sort of different
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stops that he's making what do you read
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from his campaign schedule he really
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isn't spending a lot of time in the very
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competitive house districts and it
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almost speaks to this sense that
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Republicans believe the house has
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already been lost now that may not well
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be the case come Tuesday but he's
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spending a lot more time in these red
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states where perhaps they have a better
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chance of keeping the Senate as well as
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some of these competitive gubernatorial
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elections so you saw him just the other
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day in Florida where issues such as
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immigration and attempts by the
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Republican candidate there to link
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immigrants to crime that's also been a
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very prevalent issue like the way she
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slips in and they're trying to link
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immigrants into crime and they've
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ignoring any ms-13 implications you
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might actually be able to do that you
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know the Washington Post Dana Millbank
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wrote a column boys it's this Friday or
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Saturday and The Washington Post is very
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strict paywall and this one is
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completely outside the paywall so they
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wanted everybody to read it they you
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know I've noticed this a lot because I
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won't pay for any of these jamokes oh my
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god still from browser to browser yeah
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there's all kinds of ways around the
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freedom control it does it seamlessly
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then he and he posted a Trump rotation
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because this is what we get here in
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murica during elections and everyone
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does their their best column ball god
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this will this will flip it watch my
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column be the tipping point where we
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take back house so the title of this is
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we have no excuses now our eyes are wide
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open and I just I just want to I mean he
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gives us 20 paragraphs here now all
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Americans have seen the results with
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their own eyes Trump defended neo-nazis
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who marched in Charlottesville he
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oversaw hi oh yeah oh no that you just
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go lie or you give me whatever it just a
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one-word ER for each paragraph okay
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Trump defended neo-nazis who marched in
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charlottesville lie he oversaw a policy
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separating young children from their
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parents and where how's the kids at the
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border including some who have yet to be
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reunited including some who have yet to be
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kind of a lie I like warehouse though I
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think warehouse is a good word great
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warehouse like Amazon we get him with
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robots this is your kid now put it back
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he took Vladimir Putin's word over that
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of the US intelligence community
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accepting Russia's denial that it
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interfered in our election it's true he
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implemented a ham-handed attempt at a
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Muslim ban a travel ban that caused
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chaos chaos and in its early
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incarnations were struck down as
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unconstitutional it wasn't a Muslim ban
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it's a lie and by the way I learned
19:47
something about ham now ham handed
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you know who's ham-fisted and right hey
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do you know where hand brett hamming it
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up comes from
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well that's a good question I happen to
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know I was just reading it yesterday
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that's why it jumped out at me whether
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intentional or an actor that's right
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ham actors were blo great actors who
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performed in blackface and used ham fat
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to get the black face off they were
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known as ham hamming it up doing the the
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little old minstrel show ham actors I
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don't know if it's intentional but I
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kind of thought it was interesting that
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came in here ya know right like we
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should have known better challenge the
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legitimacy of a so-called
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judge who temporarily blocked the ban
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I'll think he challenged the legitimacy
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I don't know if that's exactly what he
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did and so I put that half way he swung
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erratically from the verge of nuclear
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war with North Korea threatening fire
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and fury the likes of which the world
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has never seen before
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to declare he had fallen in love with
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dictator Kim jong-un and pronounced the
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nuclear threat ended though no agreement
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had been reached business interpret yeah
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that's actually shameful it is goodness
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he fired the FDA I want to point this
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out the media and I dear we are going as
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trunk we have to do the Trump which
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whatever we Trump apologists of core
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media keeps talking about Trump lies
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Trump plays trumpets but they're the
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ones who like constantly let me play a
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clip from Bill Maher show which was
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fantastic and he threw out one of the
21:31
biggest lies really an abstraction Trump
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said there was a quote of him saying hey
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I've you know the military should treat
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all of these these kids throwing rocks
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he's Caravan coulombs huh as as if they
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have rifles
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and that made a big oh my god oh are
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they gonna shoot out him but here's how
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Bill Maher translates that into his show
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so I guess my question is when you get
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to the point when you're saying we
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should fire on people with rocks he took
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that a little further
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implying something and saying something
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or two different things but anytime
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Trump implies something they they take
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it to the next level listen to the whole
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thing so I guess my question is when you
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get to the point when you're saying we
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should fire on people with rocks rocks
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he wants to turn us into the Gaza Strip
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oh boy they throw a rock and we fire
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upon them and then we have dead bodies
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stretching the truth a little bit but
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whoo this was a great episode and I'm
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gonna there's one more quickie before I
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get to the headliner one more quickie
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but I still wanna finish my little bit
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here oh then do that and then I'll go
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back I'm sorry yeah I want to finish
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with the gates they got one more love
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yes more of the ramp up because I got
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three clips I want to play of from Amy
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and democracy now just this is one of
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the reasons i watch so because there's
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stuff that she talks about that nobody
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talks about so it gives me some insight
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but but my kicker here is the truth will
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win out the true attitude of the elitist
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progressives in this country will be
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revealed at the end of these two clips
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just start with Oprah campaigning in
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Georgia yo an election news oprah
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winfrey joined Democratic gubernatorial
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candidate Stacey Abrams on the campaign
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trail in Marietta Georgia Thursday days
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before the midterm elections in one of
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the country's most talked-about races
23:40
because of the women who were lynched
23:44
who were humiliated
23:46
who were discriminated against who were
23:49
suppressed who were repressed and
23:52
oppressed for the right for the Equality
23:56
at the poles and I want you to know that
23:59
their blood has seeped into my DNA their
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sacrifices be in vain
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Oprah also told crown she's not hitting
24:14
the campaign trail to test the waters
24:16
for her own political run bullcrap no I
24:24
think she's too smart I really don't
24:25
think she's gonna do anyway I don't know
24:28
you know people get weird ideas make it
24:31
happen hmm
24:33
wouldn't be surprised what n't be
24:34
shocked this put it that way
24:36
oh no it wouldn't be a shock but she's
24:37
just too smart she does this that's 52
24:41
seconds that whole bit that was it was
24:43
those Pro you know this Stacey Abrams
24:45
probably is not gonna win that with or
24:49
without Oprah's help but then she
24:51
decides to switch over and to talk about
24:52
Stephen King what Steve King is the guy
24:56
in Iowa who's they think they can beat
24:58
and so they dedicate and she's been
25:01
smearing him on every single show well
25:04
what what is what is this what is the
25:06
smear topic what are they this okay
25:10
white of course okay you guys with
25:18
another Nazi yeah because everyone in
25:21
Austria is a Nazi yeah but so some kid
25:23
comes in and ambushes amid some some and
25:26
he does a poor job of it I thought and
25:28
King spots him and makes a fuss but Dame
25:31
he thought this was worth playing so she
25:32
goes an hour and 32 hour I'm sorry one
25:35
minute 32 second might as well be an
25:37
hour 1 minute and 32 seconds for this
25:40
bit which is very long for her pieces
25:42
they're usually sharp little bang bang
25:44
bang news items but not now when you're
25:47
smearing it Republican so let's play
25:48
this back in the United States Iowa
25:50
Republican Congress member Steve King
25:52
lashed out at a college student at a
25:54
campaign event in Des Moines Iowa
25:56
Thursday for asking about how Kings
25:59
purse for asking about how Kings
25:59
beliefs line up with those of the
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Pittsburgh shooter Robert Bowers you
26:05
name the shooter both share an ideology
26:08
that I saw this clip to Steve King doing
26:23
this and you know the type of the
26:24
YouTube video was that was Iowa State
27:04
University student Caleb than Fossen he
27:07
also tried to ask Congress member Steve
27:10
King about his recent trip to Austria
27:13
where King met with an Austrian neo-nazi
27:16
group earlier this week the head of the
27:18
National Republican Congressional I
27:20
didn't she mention the name of the Nazi
27:22
group or she didn't say neo or no Nazi
27:25
she said neo-nazi why not mention it was
27:28
just the the president's party over
27:29
there it was one of the parties over
27:31
there with an Austrian neo-nazi group
27:34
earlier this week the head of the
27:36
National Republican Congressional
27:38
Committee blasted King for his white
27:41
supremacist ties and corporate
27:43
supporters of King including Intel Land
27:46
O'Lakes and Purina petcare announced
27:48
they would no longer fund Kings
27:50
campaigns he's up for reelection is
27:53
polling just one point ahead of his
27:56
Democratic challenger JD Shelton in a
27:58
district that Trump won in 2016 by a
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twenty seven percent margin blue wave
28:05
this is one congressman out of you know
28:09
but there's she's focusing on her
28:11
because they think they can knock him
28:12
off and he is an important guy but the
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funny thing was and this was the these
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two are segments between Oprah who was
28:21
in Georgia for Stacey Abrams
28:23
and Steve King who was in Iowa had a
28:27
very interesting segue which I thought
28:31
revealed and you'll hear it because I
28:33
have it here as the truth wants to get
28:34
out this segue itself reveals the kind
28:39
of weird bigotry and elitism of the
28:44
progressives and now we're gonna you're
28:47
gonna play it after I'm gonna cue to
28:48
play it but remember we're talking about
28:50
Georgia and then we're gonna switch it
28:53
to Iowa Oprah
28:55
also told crown she's not hitting the
28:57
campaign trail to test the waters for
28:59
her own political run back in the United
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States Iowa no United States over there
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Georgia back in the United States back
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on planet Earth in a dimension where I
29:16
feel more comfortable so what do you
29:31
think Georgia is Amy what country is it
29:35
in the Republic of Georgia this is the
29:38
kind of insulting this is in the brain
29:41
because the entire said you they got
29:43
writers and cameraman and editors they
29:46
have all these people line or line
29:49
editors there's someone all the way at
29:50
the back who says yay or nay or stop
29:52
there's altima control in the control
29:55
one person there notice this oh no I'm
29:58
sure they notice it they just it felt
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comfortable it sounded right yeah that
30:03
sounds right should be good yeah well
30:08
does that do it for your your that's the
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rundown yeah good you got a little
30:13
border line in there very good I'm gonna
30:16
go back to the Bill Maher show it was a
30:17
doozy and it answers a lot of questions
30:20
for us but
30:23
the panel this is Anna the panel is like
30:25
the co-founder and CEO of Axios which is
30:28
the NBC outfit which is YC CBS n is
30:31
exists NBC outfit which is YC CBS n is
30:32
Axios is basically NBC Then There was
30:37
that Lauren but it's NBC and her
30:43
basically or Comcast then there's a the
30:48
president of the ACLU who was an
30:50
incredible dick oh my goodness I mean
30:54
it's not you don't even get to him yet -
30:56
really I had to wait to find who the guy
30:58
was so I popped in the middle and I'm
31:01
just like this must be some kind of
31:02
Democratic Party official but no it was
31:05
the president of the ACLU and then
31:07
Chelsea Handler who was just yelling all
31:09
the times - but I kind of liked her show
31:11
but she's her political ranting is
31:14
tiring she's afraid I'm so afraid I'm
31:16
effing scared okay but then Bill Maher
31:18
asked a very pertinent question and they
31:20
are all oblivious to what is staring
31:24
them right in the face disturbing
31:26
stories that got buried in the news this
31:27
week is that Brazil has the new
31:29
president who they're calling the
31:31
tropical Trump yeah and I feel like I've
31:34
read this story before about other
31:35
countries in the world they're all it's
31:37
like they're franchising they really are
31:46
Italy has one hunger Hungary Poland
31:51
Merkel is out in Germany we don't know
31:53
what's next there what's that why is
31:57
liberal democracy there so in retreat
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right now hmm I don't know Bill it's a
32:04
big problem right because it's not it's
32:06
not going away anytime soon because you
32:08
named it you'd if you look at the
32:09
politics of Britain look at the politics
32:10
to Italy look at the what happened with
32:12
Merkel you don't have as big a number of
32:14
sort of Trump errs there but it's much
32:15
bigger than it was before and health
32:17
driver out of office and what the
32:19
commonality of all of those is its
32:21
migration there where it's immigration
32:23
here there where it's immigration
32:23
it's economic stagnation and it really
32:26
is this switch globally that you've seen
32:28
in politics so most of my lifetime it
32:31
was big government versus small
32:32
government at a simplest form now it's
32:35
not now
32:35
very much about sort of your identity do
32:38
you like the way the world was when you
32:39
grew up or do you want change and once
32:42
you get there you now tuck this from if
32:44
it ever was an intellectual battle
32:45
there's something that's very very very
32:47
emotional and very very dangerous it's
32:50
all dangerous and they're doing identity
32:52
politics somehow the tropical Trump
32:56
don't they see that that people are sick
32:58
and tired of whatever these these
33:01
progressive ideas are with globalism
33:04
that's what's happening you that they
33:06
don't see globalism it's a problem they
33:08
see it as a solution
33:09
I drop it go on Brazil Brazil I think is
33:15
insulting not from the Amazon no no no
33:19
anyway so yeah this went on and on him
33:22
but then came that the bit Bill Maher
33:24
broke the format of the show for his
33:27
superstar guests you know we're
33:29
typically they do interview in the
33:31
beginning it was the white girl from the
33:34
New York Times about the squirrel Hills
33:36
synagogue shooting and then it was the
33:40
panel's a comedy show oh yeah oh it gets
33:43
funny for us but then normally the guest
33:46
joins the panel at the table oh no no
33:49
that's not true I'm gonna disagree with
33:52
you so we don't get letters I have
33:54
watched the show as many times almost as
33:56
you have and most of the time the guest
33:59
doesn't join the panel no the first
34:01
guest doesn't join the panel that's what
34:04
I meant and that's the one that's not
34:05
what I'm talking about but the guy that
34:07
shows up later yes ii get the guest who
34:10
comes rolling yes yes that's that this
34:15
time it wasn't the guy it was Barbra
34:16
Streisand van cheetah's and she did not
34:19
join the panel she got her own segment
34:22
in a whole in a different area of the
34:24
set oh yes with Tashi
34:30
in the alternate universe to witness the
34:32
small fury of what's really happening
34:34
with George in the linchpin everybody
34:55
okay are you okay yeah I'm just making
34:58
sure the dogs okay okay here we go so
35:01
Barbara and then she's never been on his
35:03
show and he's very excited and she has
35:05
probably never seen his show she has she
35:10
has an album out called walls and it's
35:14
all about Trump and yeah just but yeah
35:17
yes songs about Trump well not
35:20
specifically calling him Donald Trump
35:26
but you know you say that she's probably
35:28
never watched the show I also think Bill
35:30
Maher has never heard the song that she
35:33
promoted has never listened to the album
35:35
and he says something here but just as a
35:37
tip if you ever gonna interview a
35:39
musical superstar what not to say
35:52
there's a great day in my house I love
35:54
this one
35:55
I have all the old ones I'm gonna get
35:57
the next one and all the new ones that
35:58
are gonna come out you know it's a great
36:01
that's such a catchy tune too you know
36:04
you do not say to Barbra Streisand do
36:07
not say it's such a catchy tune I can't
36:09
explain it to you but singers hate it
36:12
when you do shit like that okay you know
36:14
your old crew I see in the credits back
36:17
there Carole Bayer Sager and wonderful
36:21
team she's completely confused she
36:25
doesn't even remember why she's there
36:26
but luckily she gets straight into it um
36:29
what was I gonna say sounds like her
36:37
yeah I think you'll really enjoy some of
36:40
these clips you know real life real life
36:43
Lionel sadness as well as she's talking
36:47
about her song anger wasn't she going to
36:50
leave the country when George Bush was
36:52
elected oh she said that if the
36:54
Democrats don't win the midterms they
36:56
don't win the house she's still
36:57
considering moving to Canada so it's
36:59
she's doubling down well you know this
37:01
is an aside no she has a place her and
37:04
bro an aside no she has a place her and
37:04
they've got a place up in the Pacific
37:06
Northwest we think it's in swim because
37:08
Mimi has run into both of them yeah at
37:11
one of the stores that everyone goes
37:14
there sunny Farms is the organic store
37:17
that although everyone's clothes well
37:19
just call that Canada it's close enough
37:20
and it's pretty close together already
37:22
but she says the two of them are just
37:24
really two over the over dress for the
37:27
area she ran into Brolin once and she
37:30
just I'll give this to her story she
37:33
likes to tell it she says she looks at
37:35
him and she says she recognized him but
37:37
she's look noticing his haircut which
37:39
was one of those had to be a five
37:41
hundred away she saw it had to be a five
37:43
hundred dollar haircut this was not like
37:45
a any even a good stylist it was
37:48
outrageous and she says to him that
37:52
haircut is fantastic and he says to her
37:55
do you know who I am I do that all the
37:59
time at restaurants in Austin and then
38:01
Mimi says Mimi says his heard retort do
38:06
you know who I am
38:07
oh yeah classic walks off classic well
38:12
she showed him dammit I'm proud of her
38:15
no sadness as well as anger thank you I
38:22
must say what motivated me it's amazing
38:24
that you can take something I mean the
38:26
name of the album are the walls but the
38:29
idea the first song what's on my mind
38:31
you say right in the beginning I wanted
38:32
so on my mind Trump is on my mind you
38:35
channeled it into this I couldn't sleep
38:38
and so I was thinking oh my god now they
38:41
the photographs in my head the pictures
38:44
you know the children being ripped out
38:46
of the arms of their parents you know
38:51
about stay with me John last lines and
38:55
that song is what ever happened to just
38:58
being kind
39:02
there's a lot of this and I you know
39:04
it's a long ink you don't have just
39:06
pulled a few put a lot of her saying why
39:08
can't we just reach across the aisle I'm
39:11
like why don't you go to the White House
39:12
and talk to him you know you're Barbra
39:13
Streisand you could go talk to the guy
39:16
because none of that but I discovered
39:18
something very important about her and
39:21
also by coincidence about Bill Maher so
39:24
they're both extremely triggered by by
39:27
Trump and what is the number one thing
39:29
in the rotation we're hearing about
39:30
certainly in the last in the last few
39:32
weeks what is the number one Trump
39:34
rotation item we hear I don't know he
39:36
lies he lies he's a liar he's lying
39:39
lies lies what Washington Post this week
39:43
Trump has made 6420 false or misleading
39:47
claims over six hundred and forty nine
39:49
days lies lies lies but what's happening
39:52
is both of these people and she's going
39:56
to explain the story our cycle have
39:58
psychological trauma in their life and I
40:01
understand what I have you know there
40:03
was a couple of big lies in my family
40:05
which one of these days I'll talk about
40:07
on the show and so I understand when you
40:10
grow up in a house that is either based
40:12
on a lie or has lies things that are
40:14
going on
40:15
and so yeah I can understand if someone
40:18
is lying that you'd be triggered by that
40:20
strangely I'm not triggered and I think
40:22
they answer that as well but I think I
40:24
think we share something which is we
40:26
both hate Liars mm-hmm you know you can
40:28
do almost anything to me or say why do
40:31
me I know it's a lie to as a child
40:35
that's why I'm so passionate about lies
40:38
and people who lie by family I was I was
40:46
sent to wait till she's getting very
40:47
personal now summer camp and I came to
40:52
John quit the fucking bongos I want you
40:54
to listen it's worth it it's worth it to
40:57
visit I said you're not leaving without
40:59
me I always had a strong will you know
41:03
and I got a carton I remember and packed
41:05
my things up and she had to take me home
41:08
and in the car was this stranger this
41:12
new man no and I I thought who is this
41:16
and he turned out to be my stepfather
41:21
that I was never told about that and
41:24
that way my mother was gonna have
41:26
another baby nothing was ever told to me
41:29
you know when I said to my mother
41:32
yes yet this is severe psychological
41:35
trauma about her mother environment boot
41:37
camp know if you listen to what she said
41:42
home because you couldn't stand it and
41:44
then she met her stepfather in the car
41:47
ride home as though she's I guess she's
41:49
supposed to be informed about everything
41:50
how old was she that's the key but she
41:54
was I don't know the things she said at
41:56
the beginning but the point is from and
41:59
all of a sudden her dad was gone and
42:01
this was her new dad and so it was if
42:03
she was not prepped for it and it was
42:04
traumatized and that was traumatizing
42:06
nobody likes that so she has
42:09
psychological trauma which is being
42:11
triggered by what she considers to be
42:13
thousands of lies and it's taking her
42:16
back to her childhood that's it's
42:18
obvious why didn't well that was later
42:21
but I said why don't you ever talk to me
42:23
about my father my father was a teacher
42:26
a scholar and a religious man by the way
42:30
uh and she said well I thought you'd
42:34
miss him but you see you see what I mean
42:37
by it yeah the lying by the way as an
42:42
actress or a singer what you depend upon
42:46
is truth truth communicates lies reads
42:52
you know in this case I mean is Liza
42:54
work yes because maybe there's some
42:58
truth in there that's communicating
43:00
Barbara maybe that's why it seems to be
43:02
working but the
43:04
but truth eventually wins out don't you
43:07
think well I think what you've played
43:14
here is to prove that these people are
43:16
immature is to prove that these people are
43:17
that's why we're in the alternate
43:18
universe but do you want to meet they're
43:21
going crazy no no it's very important
43:23
this is short 30 seconds they're going
43:25
nuts because they're over stimulated
43:27
they're watching this shit all day long
43:30
and that's why they can't sleep at night
43:32
but one reason I think they are always
43:34
you know against you is because you have
43:36
been effective I remember in 1986 yo
43:39
there again yes they're very much
43:41
against you they don't like you years
43:44
ago when I was supporting something or
43:46
on the uncontrol I'm sorry this is
43:48
something else this it's this is where
43:50
Bill Maher says he was on the Bombers
43:53
that's right which I was very proud to
43:56
be on this was on the Bombers list you
44:05
know I mean you're good I want to be
44:07
left out you're scary there's a lot of
44:09
more scary well Bill Maher what was he
44:11
feeling left out there wasn't he's the
44:13
only one that has corroborated this
44:15
story that he was also on the Bombers
44:17
list did he get a bomb with their bomb
44:19
in the mail where was this list all the
44:22
losses on the list but if you if you do
44:25
a search if you Bing it you'll see is
44:28
only himbo he announced he was on the
44:30
list like he felt left out or I don't
44:32
know but it's very sketchy now here's
44:35
here's their fear clip they're both
44:36
because they're over stimulated with the
44:38
stupid stuff so how do you balance I
44:41
think we all fight this how do we
44:43
balance like not being obsessed with
44:46
Donald Trump thinking about him all day
44:48
because I've never known a president who
44:49
was more in our heads which is sort of
44:51
what the album is the joke that everyone
44:54
says that Trump is living rent-free in
44:57
their heads he's actually just admitting
44:59
it bizarre what I do is first of all
45:03
engage I eat a lot do you eat
45:07
and I'll eat sweets like coffee ice
45:10
cream right that that counterbalances
45:12
the bitterness I have to play games
45:23
literally before I go to sleep I mean to
45:25
get him out of my head to get the news
45:28
that I watch all out of my head thinking
45:31
about tomorrow I have to be in the
45:33
present to be in the present you have to
45:35
play gin you know you have to play rummy
45:39
cue right you have to play scramble
45:42
that's my way what do you do I just turn
45:46
I find I'm watching in season basketball
45:49
yeah so they're watching stuff all day
45:53
and they're getting nuts and then they
45:54
can't handle they can't sleep so they
45:56
have to play card games and do something
45:59
else this is not healthy I think you've
46:03
played clips of two people are probably
46:05
clinically insane well I don't I
46:08
wouldn't say insane would really I don't
46:12
think we can make that I think she's
46:13
really got something wrong with her she
46:15
I mean but just of course doesn't
46:16
explain her deep deep hatred of George
46:20
Bush to the point where she was gonna
46:23
leave the country to threaten to or said
46:25
she would forget he did I don't know but
46:27
he was never portrayed as a liar so I
46:30
think this is even maybe even this is is
46:32
somewhat drived
46:34
she's just a hater she did introduce a
46:37
new term or maybe it's a term that I
46:39
hadn't heard before and I think it was
46:41
put into her mind and she flubbed it as
46:44
it's coming out but I think it's an
46:46
illogical evolution of climate change
46:49
terminology just what's going on with
46:51
the environment Oh Mike I mean that's
46:53
like the Forgotten issue because of all
46:56
this mentioned about the younger people
46:59
and I read an article the other day they
47:01
talked about 18 to 29 year olds
47:04
one-third of them are not going to vote
47:06
and I think but what do you mean just
47:10
think about climate change what's gonna
47:12
happen to your future your children's
47:14
future this is
47:16
a terrible problem the Republicans and
47:18
this administration have wiped off all
47:21
of the information about player truth
47:24
the truth of its climate they don't even
47:28
want to know what yeah so did you catch
47:30
it no climate truth
47:34
that was her phrase climate truth touch
47:37
she said the truths about claiming no
47:39
she tries to clarify wiped off all of
47:42
the information about the truth
47:45
the truth I wouldn't got that no but she
47:50
flubbed it she flubbed it but she said
47:52
climate truth the truth about climate
47:55
change and she couldn't get it out but
47:56
that seems like she had heard about this
47:59
or I just want to put you it may be
48:00
something bubbling under might be coming
48:02
out I think climate truth is fantastic I
48:05
think it's probably a new a new round of
48:07
I mean we went from global warming to
48:10
climate change to climate truth I mean
48:14
does it get any better I like it I like
48:18
it a lot I want to push it on the radio
48:20
is on that side anyway last clip is
48:22
where Barbara Walters of course at
48:24
Barbara Walters no difference Barbara
48:27
Streisand Walters no difference Barbara
48:28
same woman Barbara Streisand has a
48:30
solution for all of these problems
48:36
listen to this this is a very funny
48:38
thing he says shut up and shut up and
48:44
sing do both what shut up and he catches
48:50
his all shut up and sing and do both be
48:52
shut up and sing somehow and he tries to
48:55
recover from most people will say shut
48:57
up and sing do both no save here we go
49:05
here's a question do we allow the media
49:08
to keep showing him on TV why because
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there's money in it because the media
49:18
used to be a lost leader they didn't
49:20
care if from covering news mail and now
49:23
it has to report to the stock room like
49:24
everybody else right exactly
49:29
Thank You Barbara Streisand
49:32
the media never made money and now they
49:35
had to report to the stockroom yes would
49:37
he get somebody to get some empty
49:39
bottles that's in the stockroom well
49:41
what he's trying to say I will translate
49:43
he's trying to say that ratings equals
49:47
money so Trump equals ratings more Trump
49:49
that's just the way it's gonna be
49:50
hello yeah well that's we've noticed
49:53
this from the get-go let's get out of
49:55
here from the get-go let's get out of
50:21
you know the you heard this clip this
50:25
one is I can't remember I forgot to
50:27
write the guy's name down but he was
50:29
he's like an ex executive for some
50:31
broadcasting operations written a bunch
50:32
of books and they caught him on this and
50:35
they're just playing this straight-up
50:36
some interview this is a straight white
50:38
guy male shouldn't vote guy I've never
50:42
heard this no no this is the right wing
50:46
talk shows are nuts over this clip it's
50:49
got to help me right right and one other
50:51
ones you talked about prohibiting
50:53
straight males straight white men
50:56
straight white males yes this is I wrote
51:00
about this in 2012 I think it's the only
51:03
hope for democracy in America and I will
51:05
be leading a great movement to prohibit
51:08
straight white males who I believe
51:10
supported Donald Trump by about 85
51:12
percent from having exercising the
51:16
franchise and I think that will save our
51:18
democracy you can't just throw this out
51:27
there I mean it's too funny though then
51:34
oh okay you would so that will save
51:35
democracy so all the white men that are
51:38
straight in other words the gays are
51:40
okay and be gay just say you're gay if
51:44
you'd if they don't vote then democracy
51:46
is saved somehow how does this make it
51:48
any sense well I mean even though hello
51:53
hello what happened Oh oh no my
51:58
headphone amp readout and I'm sorry that
52:00
was weird
52:01
okay I'm back even though you told me to
52:05
delete the tweet because it was hurting
52:06
the show and I did I still denounced him
52:10
with double n Lawrence Lessig who gave
52:14
us I mean Lawrence Lessig who I've
52:16
worked with you know he created the
52:18
Creative Commons copyright a little
52:21
background what you just said so people
52:23
get a kick out of it
52:24
so Adam just when I was on Twitter when
52:27
he was on Twitter they're always on
52:28
Twitter and he says I do now
52:32
Semih nice melody and n or like and now
52:34
it's like he's like he was an announcer
52:36
so he put two ends in there as I knows
52:38
where it came from
52:39
yeah and so I quickly sent him a direct
52:41
mail saying quickly erase that tweet and
52:45
redo it you're hurting the show no you
52:50
know that's not what you said no no no
52:53
it was a little more passive-aggressive
52:54
I'm going to the tweeter right now and I
52:57
shall read you what you said do you said
53:00
here it is
53:03
erase your last tweet and spelled
53:05
announce correctly it's hurting the show
53:09
more passive-aggressive that that's more
53:12
aggressive it's hurting the show okay do
53:15
you like to hurt in the show part my
53:18
favorite used to get really riled when
53:22
you did stuff like that now I'm like oh
53:24
yeah I'm deleting it and I just say sure
53:26
absolutely you're so right all right all
53:29
right old man no good so Lawrence Lessig
53:32
the professor is MIT bleep ah he floats
53:36
around he was at Harvard for I think
53:38
he's still hard snap I knew him when he
53:40
was at Stanford I had lunch with an eye
53:42
shadow Ares these are interesting guys a
53:46
socialist well he created the the
53:48
Creative Commons not creative the yes
53:52
Creative Commons copyright some hard on
53:54
against uh yeah and I'm using that term
53:56
apparently too often because I remember
53:59
it from use last show he's got a hard-on
54:02
for copyrights in some way but it's
54:04
mostly like but from a communist
54:05
perspective and that's not entirely true
54:07
I'd like Creative Commons and I'd and I
54:10
took some people to court and won and
54:13
set jurisprudence oh we've had some good
54:15
back and forth over the years good but
54:18
now he's just come out and just
54:19
insulting me and you
54:23
he says that we are to blame for
54:26
everything that's happened right now the
54:28
same thing it's a straight white male
54:30
yes of my generation pretty much sucks
54:32
because of people like me over fifty
54:35
whites especially men pretty much every
54:37
awful thing that's happened in the past
54:40
20 years happened we elected George Bush
54:43
which got us the Iraq war we didn't
54:46
elect Al Gore which meant you didn't get
54:48
climate change legislation despite us
54:51
Obama was elected but in 2010 we kicked
54:55
the Democrats out of the control of
54:56
Congress that meant Obama got nothing
54:59
else that meant Obama got nothing
55:00
substantial through Congress in his six
55:02
remaining years in office a stalemate a
55:05
government that stalled the recovery and
55:07
did squat diddly about any important
55:10
national issue and of course we elected
55:14
Donald Trump which meant two more
55:17
Supreme Court justices picked by
55:19
presidents that didn't even win the
55:21
popular vote bringing that total to four
55:24
on this court we really suck but here's
55:28
the inconvenient truth about this story
55:32
if the 18 to 34 year olds had voted at
55:35
the same proportion as the 65 plus errs
55:38
none of these awful things would have
55:42
happened Oh George Bush would have lost
55:44
which means no Iraq war Al Gore is
55:47
president and climate change legislation
55:49
likely passed the kids elected Obama but
55:53
if they had voted that the same
55:54
proportion as the 65-plus errs the Dems
55:57
would have had more than a hundred and
55:59
thirty member majority in the House of
56:01
Representatives that would have meant a
56:03
much more effective Obama care and maybe
56:05
even student debt relief and of course
56:08
if the 18 to 34 year olds had voted in
56:11
the same proportion as the 65 plus errs
56:14
there would have been no donald trump
56:17
which means no Nazi rallies at
56:20
Charlottesville and elsewhere no
56:21
children ripped from their parents arms
56:23
of the border no pipe bombs said to any
56:26
Democrat with a spine no right-wing
56:28
Supreme Court and possibly even gun
56:31
controlled legislation no doubt
56:34
we suck but if you would only vote then
56:39
every sucky thing that we would do could
56:42
be stopped there you go the self-hating
56:48
white man over 50 ladies and gentlemen
56:50
oh it's floating self-loathing now he
56:56
really assumes a lot to say we would
57:00
have had climate change 30 for you
57:03
whether they're all 18 to 34 white males
57:05
a bunch of lockstep you know everything
57:08
everything to do is exactly the same
57:10
they're all gonna vote Democrat that's
57:12
bull in fact there's a lot of it talking
57:14
about you know I'd say extreme
57:17
right-wingers when you start digging
57:19
down into the next the Zoomers as they
57:21
like to call them and not least in our
57:22
house Zoomers I like that good one the
57:24
Zoomers are the next group the right app
57:27
Generation Z the Zoomers ma'am
57:29
generation Z there's rumors guys a lot
57:32
of those are pretty borderline you know
57:36
fascists and I'm not using the word
57:38
I don't liked it and I'm sick of it by
57:40
the way uh you gotta be note from one of
57:43
my friends in Brazil about this tune she
57:45
called the new guy a Nazi a pig and
57:52
I think you can use the word fascist
57:54
even though I think that's not the right
57:56
word either but Nazi means remember the
57:59
nationalist social social democrats or
58:01
whatever that party name specific name
58:03
was in german National Socialist
58:07
National Socialist you're not a
58:09
nationalist soldiers you're not so white
58:12
you're and even fascist means you you
58:14
know it was part of the fascist II
58:16
movement which again was a it was a
58:19
group specific would they gotta come up
58:21
with a new name because you can't keep
58:24
calling people members of some defunct
58:26
party in Germany as your uh why it's an
58:31
anchoring that's an anchoring moment of
58:33
course that's the whole point that's the
58:35
whole point you get to its new speak
58:37
come on yes it's not stopping it's just
58:43
not this is you know the dictionary will
58:45
get thinner every year
58:47
I just watched 1984 last night again
58:52
and you know how they always say he was
58:54
version the 1985 film I think it was
58:59
the one with uh with John Hurt oh yeah
59:02
that's the creepy one yeah very creepy
59:04
but I I realized that everyone always
59:06
says George Orwell rode he who controls
59:10
the past controls the future the second
59:15
line to that which I'd forgotten is he
59:17
who controls the present controls the
59:19
past and that's what's happening your
59:22
words are changing the one analyst now
59:24
just means white nationalist you don't
59:26
have to say white nationalist anymore
59:28
it's just what it means it's been pumped
59:29
into our heads it's very very harmful
59:32
what is taking place with media you need
59:34
to turn it off he did not be watching it
59:37
mainly Michael Moore was also out he was
59:40
on set the what the name says out he's
59:43
that he was out and about he was on what
59:45
set the talk-show host from SNL Seth
59:48
what's his name again
59:49
that's Myer Seth Meyers but they are
59:51
they are they are fanatical about this
59:54
because they know their time is up and
59:57
and these sort of the angry the angry
59:59
white guy which actually I'm really
1:00:01
Trump's demographic because yeah I'm
1:00:03
hearing Michigan angry why man a white
1:00:05
guy over 50 with a high school education
1:00:07
so that's me yeah so if I could just
1:00:10
speak to my fellow angry white American
1:00:12
the guys who are semi uneducated like me
1:00:16
yeah that's me I got high school but I'm
1:00:18
not angry for some reason why am I not
1:00:19
angry running everything and and and you
1:00:35
know the Yankees could never win as many
1:00:37
pennants as we've won in these ten
1:00:39
thousand years at right end so why don't
1:00:42
we just take a break let the majority
1:00:44
gender run the show huh let the
1:00:51
globalists run things too why are we
1:00:53
doing it he's saying let them let the
1:00:55
window she said the women run everything
1:00:57
and they're not gonna do it it's just
1:00:59
what is this is a maniac and I don't and
1:01:03
if you really have you looked over the
1:01:05
election of Donald Trump who was the
1:01:07
people that were mad
1:01:10
the mad white guy who the angry white
1:01:12
guy got him elected but you don't see a
1:01:14
bunch of the number of angry white guys
1:01:17
versus the number of angry women seems
1:01:21
to be minor yeah I'm not trying to do
1:01:24
any logic here I'm just trying to point
1:01:25
it out I don't know what this is I
1:01:28
wonder if we can ever well glue some of
1:01:32
this together maybe it's maybe it's only
1:01:33
just on TV and maybe it's not all that
1:01:35
bad I don't know it's not it's not that
1:01:37
bad the TV people let's move on you have
1:01:41
to deal with it more than anyone and
1:01:42
with that I'd like to thank you for your
1:01:44
courage and say in the morning to you
1:01:45
John four Caucasian angry man Dvorak you
1:01:55
Madame Curie also in the morning on
1:01:57
ships at sea boots on the ground in the
1:01:58
air something's in the water
1:01:59
the games and nights out in the morning
1:02:02
to our troll room hello trolls no agenda
1:02:05
stream com is where you can listen to
1:02:07
the show live on Thursday and Sunday
1:02:08
mornings and you can also chat along and
1:02:12
that is the troll room we always like
1:02:14
you here and what everybody has to say
1:02:16
and they help out and they fact-check
1:02:18
Falls and everything and also a big in
1:02:20
the morning - Darren O'Neill yeah we're
1:02:22
bopping back and forth between the pros
1:02:23
now we chose his art for and it was
1:02:25
another tough choice for the artwork
1:02:27
album art as we do every episode this
1:02:30
was for 1082 title that was other eyes
1:02:32
and we chose this because there were a
1:02:34
number of great candidates but we
1:02:36
figured when we needed to discuss a
1:02:37
little bit cuz there was some good art
1:02:39
that we had to pass over let me just say
1:02:41
what we chose it was the other just a
1:02:43
beautifully drawn piece welcome to bed o
1:02:46
land and a bunch of money on a golden
1:02:51
coin paved road and it was just a great
1:02:54
piece and we knew that you know we would
1:02:56
probably wouldn't be able to use this
1:02:58
after the election and you know you if
1:03:02
you leave something like that on the
1:03:03
table and we still had today there might
1:03:05
be something else it was just too good
1:03:06
we wouldn't be able to reuse it in a
1:03:08
newsletter so it was it was top-notch
1:03:10
like a lot of them but we went with the
1:03:12
timing is that do i sum it up properly
1:03:14
there I think so
1:03:16
we there were pieces that we liked a lot
1:03:19
and I end up it said we had a piece from
1:03:21
number shows ago which who tried this
1:03:23
new shows ago which who tried this
1:03:24
back in I keep trying to sneak it back
1:03:25
in by bringing the khashoggi topic back
1:03:27
newsletter I put in the newsletter it
1:03:30
was the beautiful piece by Pei of the
1:03:35
khashoggi is the subway logo for the
1:03:38
show logo and it was a guy selling cos
1:03:40
cos cos hoagies oh jeez
1:03:44
and there is a in the artwork was a
1:03:47
horrible hoagie with bones and pieces of
1:03:52
cloth and stuff in it
1:03:53
and you know it was this is the problem
1:03:57
we we do get a lot of good art we have
1:03:59
to we do look reuse that I used them to
1:04:02
the art that was the main piece for the
1:04:04
newsletter the top logo the top art
1:04:08
piece was from God knows like the years
1:04:10
ago that I just saw I said oh that would
1:04:12
work so it all gets used it does usually
1:04:15
it does and one of those greens and yet
1:04:18
we do pick it up later so very happy
1:04:21
with that I think a few people for
1:04:25
today's show 1083 DJ Fuji in Jersey City
1:04:29
$400 he's their top guy a gentleman I'm
1:04:32
not sure if the jobs karma of was the
1:04:35
jobs karma or the way you both said DJ
1:04:38
Fuji I don't remember saying that I also
1:04:48
don't remember which is somewhat
1:04:49
concerning yeah other some reminds me of
1:04:54
a number of episodes I've had where
1:04:56
people have called me a for not
1:04:57
remembering something but either way the
1:05:00
jobs comer worked at the very next day
1:05:01
so in gratitude I am doubling my
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previous donation requests another job
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karma this time for everyone I love the
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jobs karma da da da song super remix
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yeah you know if I could find it and I
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looked for it ice actually saw it pop up
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earlier this morning and I it's miss
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titled or mislabeled or something I know
1:05:21
what he's talking about
1:05:24
but I I cannot find it well give
1:05:27
everybody some jobs Carmen then we'll
1:05:28
work on it and you'll put an end of show
1:05:30
mix in this jobs jobs and jobs let's
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vote for job you've got karma Eren
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Christensen in Frankfurt three six three
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six three from Deutschland thank you in
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the morning gents I'm continuing my
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march towards euro knighthood with my
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second donation of three hundred thirty
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3.33 euro dollars this is because today
1:06:01
November the second is the two thousand
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and 18th year of our Lord and I am 33
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years and 333 days old
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by some strange stroke of luck this also
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happens to be a pleasing palindrome in
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u.s. dollars today the donation will
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bring me to a total of 66 6.66 euros and
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I don't know how much that is in your
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fake money I wanted to mention that I
1:06:30
was specifically on the show too I was
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specifically onto the show by the unit
1:06:35
filter podcast which John was previously
1:06:37
griping about it was definitely a less
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entertaining no agenda clone in many
1:06:43
ways but they did especially excellent
1:06:46
deconstructions of cyber news with the
1:06:48
host being former and current dudes
1:06:50
named Ben respectively their cyber
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segment is deeply missed yeah they
1:06:56
stopped which I that's too bad they
1:06:59
could have kept it going anyway John
1:07:01
would be delighted to learn that unit
1:07:03
filter is now defunct I'm not that happy
1:07:05
about it because according to Chris unit
1:07:08
filter was a full-time job unto itself
1:07:10
you know what they were they were they
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were one filter not uniform filter ID
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filter I know what unfilter sorry a yuna
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filter filter was a full-time job this
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is what I noticed that they were it's
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one of them when I talk to people about
1:07:27
podcasting I always mentioned that we
1:07:29
try to do everything's kind of concisely
1:07:32
so we it's done it's done you don't do a
1:07:35
lot of post
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you mean we're too lazy to do anything
1:07:38
we'd record in real time or just that
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professional okay I found it I've got a
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friend to show okay he doesn't least for
1:07:49
other shows and it wasn't bringing
1:07:51
enough money we now know he is also in
1:07:53
negotiations to be acquired by Linux
1:07:55
Academy which may or may not have been
1:07:56
related to his decision to end the show
1:07:58
I wouldn't fault him for that dig their
1:07:59
show was good unfilter was a good show i
1:08:02
listened to a number of times i've
1:08:04
always Sunday they it was hard to
1:08:06
produce it was just hard to produce
1:08:08
there's a lot of lot of work doing video
1:08:10
and it was not necessary I mean there
1:08:14
was a lot of complaints you could have
1:08:15
about you know if if they were part of
1:08:17
our network which we don't have we would
1:08:21
have told them to do things differently
1:08:23
anyway no jingles no karma all right
1:08:25
thank you very much appreciate it hello
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Deutschland you very much appreciate it hello
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anonymous in Peru Oh Pennsylvania but by
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the way that 333 in euros is three six
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three six three which still comes out
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kind of jazzy hmm anonymous in
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Pittsburgh three three three three three
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and our funny money I love to show jobs
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karma really works this year I requested
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jobs Carmen landed a good job to have an
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opportunity for my a sensible dream job
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so I'd like to humbly ask for another
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round of jobs karma I also have a
1:08:59
collective history I also had like a
1:09:02
collective karma for the city of
1:09:03
Pittsburgh it's a surreal feeling to see
1:09:05
a location you walk past every day for
1:09:07
five years in the national news for such
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a horrific incident as for jingles I'd
1:09:12
like a numbers station to to the head
1:09:16
drone again at the end of the show is it
1:09:19
possible for me to hear it and not sing
1:09:21
along multiple times oh it's impossible
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sorry it's impossible for me not to hear
1:09:27
it you would sing this Steve 3:33
1:09:38
arrival either out
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you've got karma did you would you say
1:09:52
you found that clip you might want to
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play for yeah I have a friend of show I
1:09:56
got the end of show version okay this is
1:09:58
for doctors Fuji Fuji
1:10:00
DJ Fuji
1:10:03
but doctors DJ that I use you know ever
1:10:08
since I got my new eyeball I have yeah
1:10:11
it's not this has not been a bionic
1:10:12
experience has it no it's not being
1:10:16
great for you know it's great but it
1:10:17
mean because that you actually you're
1:10:19
actually kind of blind in one eye for a
1:10:21
long time so your brain stars read you
1:10:23
know read designing how it's gonna see
1:10:25
things hmm and so with all of a sudden
1:10:27
you put the other eyeball into full use
1:10:30
where's back to brand-new you know wait
1:10:36
a minute so your other eyeball is going
1:10:38
fuck it I give up no no no the other
1:10:41
eyeball is the other eyeball but the new
1:10:42
eyeball is like it's I think it's just
1:10:45
the information overload because the
1:10:47
brain was not used to getting so much
1:10:48
data uh-huh it's so it's starting to
1:10:51
read into thing so instead of saying DJ
1:10:53
sing doctor well you know it's there's I
1:10:56
have made that number of these little is
1:10:58
almost a little slightly dyslexic yeah
1:11:01
I'd be getting a refund
1:11:08
where was the benefit in all this the
1:11:11
benefit you mean like being able to
1:11:14
drive at night or I'm sorry cuz you're
1:11:19
out on the town so much being able to
1:11:22
drive at night or not being you know
1:11:24
from any simple light source of sources
1:11:27
right okay it's blinding you oh no
1:11:29
that's horrible I didn't realize it was
1:11:31
like that okay I just thought I couldn't
1:11:32
see you guess shit sorry I couldn't hear
1:11:37
you you guess shit sorry I couldn't hear
1:11:37
we're a fine pair I got hearing aids you
1:11:41
got hear no evil see no evil we get we
1:11:45
need you have to what's the other one
1:11:46
the my person yeah speak know you all
1:11:49
and I thought and I find myself doing
1:11:52
strange things with the hearing aids
1:11:53
we're in the tea and I were in the
1:11:55
elevator yesterday or the end of the day
1:11:57
but Friday and then someone walked in
1:12:00
she was and you know the confusing
1:12:02
elevator where there's no no buttons and
1:12:04
you know so someone had had programmed
1:12:06
the outside for and she gets in she's
1:12:07
looking around like whether he'll say
1:12:09
nah that's normal and then she looked at
1:12:11
me she went hey she points to her
1:12:13
hearing aids and that's I'm not making a
1:12:15
joke that
1:12:16
how she sounded and I immediately go
1:12:18
like I'm a dick she was really like deaf
1:12:21
deaf and stuff and a mute she couldn't
1:12:25
speak or hear and Here I am like oh
1:12:26
you're a colleague jeez and dick
1:12:29
high-five I'm an idiot
1:12:37
horrible man sir milkman comes in at 256
1:12:41
dollars man sir milkman comes in at 256
1:12:42
hey fellas happy eleventh can I get a
1:12:45
plug for a 3d printer repair business I
1:12:49
guess it's far enough along now that 3d
1:12:53
people here just falling apart yeah like
1:12:55
us LA okay goes to LA 3d printer repair
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comso la 3l a 3d printer repair all one
1:13:07
word.com very nice I guess
1:13:09
all right first and only local resource
1:13:11
dedicated the 3d printer repair in Los
1:13:15
Angeles yeah well is that where he is I
1:13:18
guess LA Oh must be or could be
1:13:22
Louisiana could be we should know he's
1:13:25
sir milkman we should know but we don't
1:13:27
you'd think
1:13:29
more tea sir Timothy of the no fix title
1:13:31
in Plymouth Michigan 22222 I've been
1:13:36
saving up for a donation Mimi's birthday
1:13:38
is a great reason this hit the second
1:13:39
the send button that past month of shows
1:13:41
of combining the polish and
1:13:43
professionalism of modern no agenda with
1:13:45
the even-handed savaging of everybody in
1:13:47
all sides that made the show great in
1:13:50
the first place I've been concerned this
1:13:52
year when sometimes I heard an episode
1:13:54
and thought damn these guys are sounding
1:13:57
like Republicans real insult I hate it
1:14:03
when people say that I've never belonged
1:14:05
to any political party which of course
1:14:08
is not true because you guys often vote
1:14:10
for independent candidates and third
1:14:11
parties but I fear you may lose
1:14:14
potential donors with things like the
1:14:16
dimension a and B idea which can
1:14:18
sometimes sound like Republicans are in
1:14:20
dimension a and crazy disappointed
1:14:22
Democrats in dimension B or dementia as
1:14:25
he says as if no agenda is taking sides
1:14:28
on dimension
1:14:29
I know plenty of crazy Republicans who
1:14:31
scare me as much as Democrats perhaps
1:14:33
people who can think critically and okay
1:14:35
well let me stop before I read any more
1:14:37
of this what we do is media
1:14:41
deconstruction and they're just as so
1:14:44
much so I should go to Fox and look at
1:14:47
what they're saying and it's like we
1:14:48
don't have to we know it they're I mean
1:14:49
they're not trying to trick anybody not
1:14:51
trying to trick anybody with and when
1:14:53
they do we call mine they find it
1:14:56
but we find a little back you know they
1:14:58
blew the whip saw ways of presenting a
1:15:03
news and Trump said he was he admitted
1:15:07
he was a liar and then they cut to a
1:15:08
clip of Trump saying no such thing hold
1:15:11
on hold on home aha then the next
1:15:13
argument that comes back is when Obama
1:15:16
was president sure you were
1:15:18
deconstructing the media by showing all
1:15:20
the bullcrap they were telling about him
1:15:22
being the best in the world
1:15:23
but they say you had hundreds of
1:15:27
thousands of clips about Obama and you
1:15:29
do almost no Trump clips and you're
1:15:32
missing the point of what we do because
1:15:34
if you want crazy-ass Trump clips turn
1:15:37
on the television
1:15:39
that's exactly it's the of course it's
1:15:42
the reverse it is this is truly about
1:15:44
media you know when when the media was
1:15:48
all in an Obama we would we would show
1:15:51
the opposite which usually would have to
1:15:53
say this is what he really said remember
1:15:55
when he shouted down the protester ball
1:15:58
he the heckler he made a shirt just cut
1:16:02
meant to carry that protester then we
1:16:04
played the raw audio where it was about
1:16:06
15 minutes of him going by by by by by
1:16:09
getting out and they and they lied so
1:16:12
you know I don't understand I do
1:16:14
understand the media is is very biased
1:16:17
and I've believed this and they admitted
1:16:20
it themselves if you go in fact you can
1:16:22
tag go to if you ever get give give a
1:16:24
speech to a media group and ask him how
1:16:26
many Democrats and Republicans were
1:16:28
there you'll find this about 80 and I
1:16:31
think even higher a percent of Democrats
1:16:34
and their slant the news and what we all
1:16:36
we do is just say hey you guys aren't
1:16:37
presenting this correctly all right that
1:16:40
and then you have the little subtleties
1:16:41
like like
1:16:43
Amy Goodman suggesting that Georgia is
1:16:45
not in the United States and that's
1:16:48
where all we do we don't do if it was
1:16:51
the other way around we would still be
1:16:52
doing the same thing
1:16:55
so happens that there they're all
1:16:58
promoting an agenda and we are just fish
1:17:01
pointing it out what their what's really
1:17:03
going on and keeping people from going
1:17:05
nuts cuz their agenda which is
1:17:08
definitely an agenda is making people
1:17:11
crazy yes well I don't know if even even
1:17:16
if that is their agenda if that's the
1:17:18
result know what that's a result of
1:17:19
their the result yeah you're right my
1:17:21
agenda is just to make you laugh
1:17:24
just just lat if you haven't laughed
1:17:26
during this show then I feel personally
1:17:28
I failed if you haven't laughed about
1:17:29
something just some lunatic thing which
1:17:32
maybe it could be me yeah we should be
1:17:35
laughing you should be laughing Sir Tim
1:17:38
is either no fix tiles but he also says
1:17:40
happy birthday to me me and I can't wait
1:17:42
for the Thursday show Michigan local
1:17:44
ones having a post-election sanity
1:17:46
luncheon China at Star palace in
1:17:47
Westland on Sunday eleven eleven at one
1:17:50
p.m. eleven eleven by the way is which
1:17:53
was next Sunday is the is Armistice
1:17:55
today's the day that World War one ended
1:17:57
ah that's right it is also it marks
1:18:00
carnival in the Netherlands it's called
1:18:03
the 11:11 s the crazy the crazy day I
1:18:07
don't know why maybe cuz that's gonna do
1:18:10
World War one could be so grave
1:18:13
grammarian comes our last associate
1:18:15
executive producer two hundred two
1:18:16
dollars and two cents I think we showed
1:18:18
1313 yeah the big thanks to John for
1:18:21
chatting with us on the grime Erica Show
1:18:23
podcast it happens to be episode three
1:18:25
one three now released keep up the
1:18:28
stellar work guys you have inspired us
1:18:30
and changed many lives for the better
1:18:32
everyone supports the no agenda show the
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1:18:36
important this time of manufactured
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outrage virtue signaling and censorship
1:18:41
jingle equals karma bests or gray of
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grade grime Erica thank you sir gray and
1:18:47
thank you by Mary Kay and everyone who
1:18:48
supports that show as well I have not
1:18:50
heard this podcast but it will be on the
1:18:53
no agenda stream right after today's
1:18:54
show and I'm looking forward to it
1:18:56
because you've certainly promoted it
1:19:00
I'm excited I'm excited to hear about
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your your history all about you it says
1:19:05
oh you're gonna find out all kinds of
1:19:07
things that you've never heard before
1:19:08
yes okay thank you to our executive
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1:20:04
we hit people in the mouth
1:20:18
hey do you feel any of those earthquakes
1:20:20
no they're nowhere near here now I do
1:20:23
want to read a letter though that was
1:20:25
one of our make goods from the last show
1:20:27
oh okay
1:20:28
opportunity to I guess is from Angela
1:20:30
and I'll smear I'll smear the
1:20:33
Netherlands all smear I'll smear as for
1:20:37
my last email been rainy right you and I
1:20:38
had some extra money to donate she's
1:20:40
been on the $4 list she was on she gave
1:20:43
us something and didn't get picked up on
1:20:44
her some more than note didn't she's her
1:20:48
husband my husband and I introduced to
1:20:50
the podcast keeps threatening to write
1:20:52
in and call me out as a douchebag my
1:20:55
donation last week and today should beat
1:20:57
him to the punch please d douche me so
1:20:59
we can do that she wonders if she'll be
1:21:05
the first black Dame she may be but for
1:21:08
Dame hood it's not really clear in here
1:21:10
but we do not do black Dame's
1:21:13
sorry anyway she needs some Law School
1:21:16
Karma what do you think we don't do
1:21:18
black Dame's I understand we've never
1:21:20
done a black game what's not that we
1:21:22
wouldn't I don't I think it's been
1:21:25
determined by the peerage committee that
1:21:26
black Dame's are rude or something I
1:21:29
don't know it means we have black
1:21:32
knights but you can't say black Dame I
1:21:33
think so what are you talking about I
1:21:36
have to go back to the data but through
1:21:38
they've through the minutes well we
1:21:40
don't we haven't had them but we would
1:21:42
do one if we if we forgot someone we're
1:21:44
not sure that's true I think has
1:21:45
happened in the past I think this has
1:21:47
come up like a couple of years ago wow
1:21:49
this is very strange to me well when we
1:21:52
gonna say I don't understand well you
1:21:55
should write a protest see it's in the
1:21:57
form of a memo to the peerage committee
1:22:00
and it will take it up okay I will this
1:22:02
is an outrage um and maybe she can get
1:22:06
her black Dame hood
1:22:09
I don't know she'd be the first then I
1:22:11
don't have to look back into it it's
1:22:12
gonna take a lot of research and
1:22:14
resources but it'll be resolved she
1:22:17
wants some law school karma trains good
1:22:18
planes bad and a milf comment trying to
1:22:22
keep my status as a hot wife going I
1:22:25
attached pics to my last email if you
1:22:27
missed it you missed it
1:22:29
what we missed it and okay milf what
1:22:34
else does she want the train's good and
1:22:36
milf trains good planes bad and is just
1:22:39
some lost gold karma and jobs okay we
1:22:42
can do that here we go you've got karma
1:23:05
is a speaking of trains I got a note
1:23:08
from I think it's professor John dr.
1:23:14
John and that would be about the the
1:23:18
trains and what is it under shut up
1:23:22
slave you know the the audio that we had
1:23:25
that we thought was possibly a hoax of
1:23:27
the your social score will you will go
1:23:29
down if you're caught without a yes
1:23:32
without a ticket well so it was the
1:23:34
right so he says yeah well I mean I
1:23:37
think we both thought it was a hoax and
1:23:39
I think how can I find this now he wrote
1:23:42
us a nice little note and he says oh
1:23:44
yeah absolutely I've been on being on
1:23:47
trains all over a China on the bullet
1:23:49
trains they have it and he says it's
1:23:51
completely legit
1:23:54
so so the amount you would be so the
1:23:56
announcement over the PA system and a
1:23:59
Chinese bullet train is threatening you
1:24:01
with with banishment to the outer hit
1:24:04
inter lands or whatever it is it's
1:24:06
terrible lands or whatever it is it's
1:24:07
he says the the the irony of it is that
1:24:10
if you can actually purchase your ticket
1:24:13
right then and there on the train or
1:24:14
upgrade if you would be in the in the
1:24:16
wrong seat so it's it's not you know you
1:24:18
just oh yeah I got caught okay I just
1:24:20
want to pay for it now he says
1:24:21
apparently that's it that's a normal
1:24:24
thing to do
1:24:25
yeah that was in Europe too but he said
1:24:27
he said now it's uh it's it's real
1:24:32
which is even a little crazy I'm like ah
1:24:35
that was probably fake but it's kind of
1:24:37
real I don't know how I feel about that
1:24:40
I don't like it no more I make good
1:24:43
letter S from last show this is the
1:24:48
Aussie Andy Cantrell he said this is the
1:24:53
miss thing the missing note if you
1:24:54
remember I said yes yes yes yes are
1:24:56
there jingles included should I get
1:24:58
something ready oh just go left do you
1:25:00
think you know you do yeah he wants to
1:25:03
else Sharpton shitty old shitty with it
1:25:07
all right some reason that cracks him up
1:25:09
okay now he got kind of uh I don't want
1:25:13
to use the word gypped but he made a
1:25:16
contribution of three hundred thirty
1:25:17
three dollars and 33 cents and I
1:25:18
remember when it came here that came in
1:25:20
at 200 and something because it was us
1:25:21
Aussie dollars which we normally credit
1:25:23
with a bigger amount or the executive
1:25:26
producer mmmm-hmmm anyway just bitching
1:25:29
about that he says I think I could say
1:25:31
they get more value than most from the
1:25:32
podcast I as on non show days I just
1:25:36
listened to old episodes through my
1:25:38
bluetooth headset while it's going about
1:25:40
my business so I listen to you guys at
1:25:42
least 20 hours a week this has left me a
1:25:46
friendless social left me as a
1:25:50
friendless social pariah who finds and
1:25:54
complains about media bias everywhere
1:25:56
but I wouldn't have it any other way I
1:25:58
was an old-school lefty this is very
1:26:01
interesting to me I was in coz I don't
1:26:03
know how many people we can this is hard
1:26:07
did you and I'm thinking wow okay I
1:26:10
guess we need to accomplish something I
1:26:12
was an old-school lefty before
1:26:14
discovering no agenda and have yet to
1:26:16
succeed in getting any of my friends to
1:26:19
listen to the show they won't listen
1:26:21
that's the problem they won't then
1:26:22
that's the problem with the left they
1:26:24
just I don't want to listen because they
1:26:25
friends gonna contaminate them they're
1:26:27
all too busy ragging on Trump in isn't
1:26:29
Australia by the way ragging on Trump
1:26:32
and panicking about global warming
1:26:34
I believe the Trump hate is some sort of
1:26:36
superiority complex at its root thank
1:26:39
you gentlemen for all you do to keep us
1:26:41
free from losing our minds yes
1:26:46
don't lose your mind
1:26:51
during lunch at chick-fil-a don't line
1:26:55
it's in your tortise it's in here in the
1:26:58
race we wash our ESP ICT they're all
1:27:10
free there you go so we got little Judy
1:27:13
in there
1:27:14
that's one of the best songs I've ever
1:27:17
put that together was just fantastic I
1:27:19
agree angrist anyway that was the last
1:27:22
of my current notes and I woke up trying
1:27:26
to catch up I woke up this morning I'm
1:27:29
just gonna do this here and you were on
1:27:32
my mind always
1:27:37
Easybeats Friday on my mind woke up this
1:27:40
morning and I had a lot of links to the
1:27:44
same video then a lot of there's a lot
1:27:48
of people who've made see I told you the
1:27:49
Jews are trying to kill us
1:27:51
but oh yeah oh yeah I get a lot of that
1:27:54
and and you know the typical emails like
1:27:58
see you guys don't want to admit it
1:28:00
they're trying to replace us I mean I
1:28:01
get some choice emails and it's because
1:28:06
of the following which Artie just
1:28:09
released it is a documentary in four
1:28:11
parts originally are produced by Al
1:28:14
Jazeera in 2017 it's titled the Israel
1:28:18
lobby and it's a four-part Urso I have
1:28:22
only seen the first part because I only
1:28:25
got it this morning I didn't have time
1:28:27
to watch two hours of this I will for
1:28:29
Thursday's show but here's arty Pro
1:28:31
mowing it for our top international
1:28:33
story this hour we are following news
1:28:35
that the censor and Al Jazeera
1:28:36
investigation into the Israel lobby in
1:28:39
the United States has finally seen the
1:28:41
light of day early on Friday two
1:28:43
episodes from the four part series were
1:28:46
leaked by the Electronic Intifada and
1:28:48
france-based by the Electronic Intifada and
1:28:50
orient 21 by the way I did clip this for
1:28:53
brevity so I cut out this whole
1:28:54
undercover camera because that never
1:28:57
works in the podcast if you can't see
1:28:59
the subtitles you don't know it's hard
1:29:01
to understand so I cut that art GRT does
1:29:03
this do excess because if the audio is
1:29:11
atrocious do excess because if the audio is
1:29:11
it is not usable and this is the problem
1:29:14
it's the problem with all that stuff and
1:29:17
what it's choppy and cut up there's no
1:29:19
context everything for context with
1:29:21
these things is the same for this
1:29:22
documentary half of it is subtitles
1:29:25
because it's a Hebrew or Arabic so
1:29:28
sometimes just doesn't work in a clip
1:29:30
released by E I earlier in the week
1:29:33
julia rice canned and american working
1:29:35
at the Israeli consulate admits to an
1:29:38
undercover journalist that she monitors
1:29:40
student supporters of Palestine and runs
1:29:43
sockpuppet social media accounts on
1:29:45
behalf of the embassy the student group
1:29:47
arrived kintu refers to in that clip as
1:29:49
students for
1:29:50
justice in Palestine that's just one of
1:29:52
the many explosive scenes from the
1:29:54
series would you would think any
1:29:55
journalistic organization would be proud
1:29:57
to produce but not al-jazeera apparently
1:30:01
see despite investing years into
1:30:03
researching filming and editing the
1:30:05
project and even completing it in 2017
1:30:08
the network opted to censor the
1:30:11
production a reminder that al-jazeera is
1:30:13
owned by the Grand Poobah of Qatar hated
1:30:17
by Saudi Arabia why ironically because
1:30:20
it's government funder Qatar was
1:30:22
influenced by the very groups it was
1:30:25
investigating the Israel lobby in June a
1:30:29
I confirmed Jazeera delayed the film's
1:30:31
release quote over national security
1:30:32
fears including that broadcast of the
1:30:36
film could add pressure for the u.s. to
1:30:39
pull its massive ala deed airbase out of
1:30:43
the Gulf State or make a Saudi military
1:30:45
invasion more likely he is quote one of
1:30:49
the Israel lobby groups whose activities
1:30:51
are revealed in the film has been
1:30:53
mounting a campaign to convince the u.s.
1:30:55
to withdraw its military forces from
1:30:57
Qatar which leaders in the emirate would
1:31:00
see as a major blow to their security
1:31:02
the pro-israel lobby group Zionist
1:31:05
Organization of America boasted that its
1:31:07
director Morton Klein's quote numerous
1:31:10
exhaustive and round-the-clock meetings
1:31:12
in Doha Qatar with the Emir and other
1:31:15
top Qatari officials helped convince the
1:31:17
government to scrub the project so yeah
1:31:22
from what I saw its yeah Bob there's
1:31:25
someone from the embassy and she's
1:31:27
talking to students and she's yeah she's
1:31:30
meddling around there are every country
1:31:34
has spies that does this to every other
1:31:36
country and I just don't understand what
1:31:38
is everyone talking about you know it's
1:31:41
like oh yeah yeah yeah
1:31:44
have you got him out of this
1:31:46
over-representation of Jews and sin
1:31:48
Congress like well why don't you vote
1:31:50
them out
1:31:52
if you don't like it I'm so sick of this
1:31:54
Jew Arab thing and we know that
1:31:58
ultimately it's all about hummus
1:32:02
I've watched this documentary and I will
1:32:04
check in he'll like hummus now that's
1:32:07
what all this is ultimately about the
1:32:09
Israel thinks that they make better
1:32:11
hummus than any Arabs come on we know
1:32:13
this is what the real thing is an
1:32:15
Israeli took me to an Arab area to get
1:32:18
the best hummus I just said that's what
1:32:19
the argument is about that's it so watch
1:32:27
this hummus thing up but now you got me
1:32:29
there is a little party there's downtown
1:32:32
LA we say that some bed-and-breakfast
1:32:35
for some reason bed-and-breakfast or
1:32:36
Airbnb and down that it was in an alley
1:32:40
and in that alley there was I gotta get
1:32:43
the name of this place it's a restaurant
1:32:45
I'm going to go on to the Google Maps to
1:32:47
do it there's a little I think as a
1:32:49
Palestinian restaurant in this alley and
1:32:52
it's just they they make hummus the way
1:32:55
they make it in the Middle East is
1:32:56
handmade in the morning ground up by
1:32:59
some old woman you know with a pestle
1:33:01
mortar and his stuff is it's probably
1:33:03
the best hummus I've ever had the United
1:33:04
States and I will tell you this place
1:33:08
and we'll get some people getting some
1:33:10
hummus I'm telling never go to LA I'm
1:33:12
gonna go by there just get some how much
1:33:13
to go we can solve everything
1:33:16
we can we can solve the whole Middle
1:33:18
East problems we just get some agreement
1:33:20
on the hummus I'm convinced there's
1:33:22
there's a show I haven't seen it one of
1:33:25
our producer psycho Mike gave us or
1:33:28
psycho he sent me these clips and lied
1:33:32
sakes he sent me the a clip and there's
1:33:34
a nice Oh from it to this was from a
1:33:37
show called I'm gonna look watch this
1:33:39
show check it out it's one of these it's
1:33:41
called American housewife it's on ABC
1:33:43
I've never seen it before but it has
1:33:45
Wendie Malick the comedian actress and
1:33:48
anything she's and I think is great and
1:33:51
it doesn't have a laugh track which file
1:33:55
it's you know some of the so it has a
1:33:56
different style it has a different
1:33:58
feeling because shows out laugh tracks
1:34:00
are actually harder to do in many ways
1:34:02
because you can't you know it's just
1:34:03
their silent they're so silent nobody's
1:34:07
ever done it better I think then Tina
1:34:09
Fey she shows without laugh tracks and
1:34:12
they actually work well this one's a
1:34:14
little Legos it makes you a little creep
1:34:16
your little creeped out but this clip
1:34:18
the American House white clip that was
1:34:20
specific it to me because it's you'll
1:34:23
see why there's no bump you do not have
1:34:33
a bump it's nothing you should have says
1:34:35
over you ever great knows no if you're
1:34:37
gonna change something I would go with
1:34:39
your lives
1:34:39
mom it's not her fault that she got my
1:34:42
thin lips well if I started juicing at
1:34:44
her age hmm my whole life would have
1:34:46
been different I could have been an MTV
1:34:48
VJ what's that Wow there you go I'm a
1:34:54
dinosaur thanks I feel real good now
1:34:58
here's the here's the MTV Veejay clip as
1:35:02
a boat candidate for end of show as an I
1:35:05
so beautiful I could have been an MTV VJ
1:35:07
what's that you're in congratulations
1:35:11
you've done it I wanted to pick up a
1:35:16
topic you know there was another thing
1:35:19
that we didn't really get to and talk
1:35:20
about and we don't to talk too much
1:35:22
about it but I do have some other
1:35:23
information I want to bring it about
1:35:24
this front line two-part series called
1:35:27
the Facebook dilemma
1:35:29
yeah and you're the funny thing about
1:35:30
this I have to say cuz I'm a big fan of
1:35:32
hot line front lines especially that
1:35:35
voiceover that's the guy's the best says
1:35:39
that me he's so believable huh but but
1:35:43
for some reason I've not been interested
1:35:45
in actually getting this and watching it
1:35:50
I can give it to you well there's a
1:35:52
couple short and I have one clip that I
1:35:53
want to play more but only gonna play
1:35:55
one for today the documentary is I think
1:35:59
it's very interesting part one is very
1:36:01
interesting because it really shows you
1:36:03
when and how Facebook decided to adjust
1:36:06
its business model to the detriment of
1:36:08
human life in my view but the whole
1:36:13
thing both part 1 and part 2 winds up at
1:36:16
the same place Trump I mean it's it's
1:36:19
really disappointing it's like okay
1:36:21
these guys the debt and I have some
1:36:22
thoughts about what maybe happened there
1:36:24
but I just want to play this one clip
1:36:27
from this Facebook I think this is from
1:36:29
part one this is just before the IPO
1:36:31
which was what 2012-2013 was later than
1:36:35
that yeah it was around there when they
1:36:38
really had to make some decisions Sheryl
1:36:40
Sandberg came in and you know this
1:36:43
obviously pertains to the algos and how
1:36:45
they whip people up into a frenzy and
1:36:47
that was their their saving grace for
1:36:49
the IPO and then Sheryl Sandberg was one
1:36:52
of these Council on Foreign Relations
1:36:54
women I think she came out of that
1:36:56
office government office that puts up
1:36:59
ball you know has a hole like the
1:37:01
substitute teams well she also built the
1:37:03
advertising business to a certain degree
1:37:05
at Google
1:37:08
did she not wasn't you didn't she do
1:37:10
something you worked at Google I thought
1:37:12
she did something at Google too I think
1:37:14
you're thinking Marisa
1:37:15
no I know Marisa now maybe I'm wrong
1:37:17
doesn't matter
1:37:18
although Sandberg is a heavy hitter from
1:37:20
the deep state yes in fact Facebook was
1:37:24
preparing to take its rapidly growing
1:37:26
business to the next level by going
1:37:29
public the pressure heading into the IPO
1:37:35
of course was to prove that Facebook was
1:37:38
a great business otherwise we'd have no
1:37:40
shareholders Facebook is it worth a
1:37:42
hundred billion dollars should it be
1:37:44
valued at Zuckerberg challenge was to
1:37:46
show investors and advertisers the
1:37:48
profit that could be made from
1:37:50
Facebook's most valuable asset the
1:37:53
personal data it had on its users mark
1:37:56
great as he was at vision and product he
1:38:00
had very little experience in building a
1:38:03
big advertising business that would be
1:38:05
the job of Zuckerberg deputy Sheryl
1:38:07
Sandberg who had done the same for
1:38:09
Google Facebook we have a broad mission
1:38:12
we want to make the world more open and
1:38:15
connected the business model we see
1:38:17
today was created by Sheryl Sandberg and
1:38:21
the team she built at Facebook many of
1:38:24
whom had been with her at Google
1:38:26
publicly Sandberg and Zuckerberg had
1:38:29
been downplaying the extent of the
1:38:31
personal data of Facebook was collecting
1:38:33
and emphasizing users privacy we are
1:38:36
focused on privacy we care the most
1:38:38
about privacy business model is by far
1:38:42
the most privacy friendly privacy
1:38:44
friendly that's our mission
1:38:45
right we have to do that because not if
1:38:48
people feel like they don't have control
1:38:50
over how they're sharing things then
1:38:52
then we're failing that really is the
1:38:54
point that the only things Facebook
1:38:56
knows about you are things you've done
1:38:57
and told us but internally Sandberg
1:39:00
would soon lead Facebook in a very
1:39:02
different direction does meeting I think
1:39:04
was in March of 2012 in which you know
1:39:06
it was everyone who built stuff inside
1:39:08
ads myself
1:39:09
and you know she basically recited the
1:39:12
reality which is revenue was flattening
1:39:14
it wasn't slow it wasn't declining but
1:39:16
it wasn't growing nearly as fast as
1:39:17
investors would have guessed so she
1:39:19
basically said like we have to do
1:39:21
something you people have to do
1:39:22
something and so there was a big effort
1:39:23
to basically pull out all the stops and
1:39:26
start experimenting way more
1:39:27
aggressively the realities yeah Facebook
1:39:31
has a lot of personal data your chat
1:39:33
with your girlfriend a boyfriend
1:39:34
your drunk party photos from college etc
1:39:36
the reality is that none of that is
1:39:38
actually valuable to any marketer they
1:39:40
want commercially interesting data
1:39:41
you know what products did you take off
1:39:43
the shelf at Best Buy what did you buy
1:39:45
in your last grocery run they didn't
1:39:46
include diapers do you right it's things
1:39:48
like that things that exist in the
1:39:49
outside world that just do not exist
1:39:51
inside Facebook at all Sandburg team
1:39:54
started developing new ways to collect
1:39:56
personal data from users wherever they
1:39:58
went on the internet and when they
1:40:00
weren't on the Internet at all and so
1:40:03
there's this extraordinary thing that
1:40:04
happens that doesn't get much attention
1:40:06
at the time about four or five months
1:40:10
before the IPO the company announces its
1:40:12
first relationship with data broker
1:40:15
companies companies that most Americans
1:40:17
aren't all aware of that go out and buy
1:40:21
up data about each and every one of us
1:40:24
hopefully by where we shop where we live
1:40:28
what our traffic patterns are what our
1:40:31
families are doing we're likes are what
1:40:33
magazines we read data that the consumer
1:40:35
doesn't even know that's being collected
1:40:36
about them because it's being collected
1:40:38
from the rest of their lives by
1:40:40
companies they don't know and it's now
1:40:42
being shared with Facebook so that
1:40:44
Facebook can target ads back to the user
1:40:47
so when we heard about the data brokers
1:40:49
I I think I was confused as well I
1:40:51
thought that they were selling the data
1:40:52
to the data brokers but it's exactly the
1:40:54
opposite now if you're wondering why
1:40:56
Facebook ads and it's not just Facebook
1:40:59
as I'm sure everyone has it everyone
1:41:01
anyone can buy this data it's from a
1:41:02
data broker for Christ sakes that that's
1:41:06
why you're getting you know the odd
1:41:08
types of things that you think it and it
1:41:10
may be listening to you the app I don't
1:41:11
know but it knows a heck of a lot about
1:41:14
what you're doing in the in the real
1:41:17
life world and they implemented that
1:41:20
just before the IPO and it worked
1:41:22
because before the IPO and it worked
1:41:23
everything went crazy with the revenue
1:41:26
don't have backup here and you make
1:41:28
bitches sandberg she's the vice
1:41:30
president of global online sales and
1:41:32
operations at Google since you stole CEO
1:41:35
mm-hmm I don't think she by the way has
1:41:37
she had that much to do with what's
1:41:38
going on I think she's just guided it
1:41:40
could be and she was involved in
1:41:42
launching Google Google's philanthropic
1:41:43
arm Google org before Google she served
1:41:48
as a chief of staff for the United
1:41:50
States Treasury Secretary of Treasury
1:41:53
Lawrence Summers but she came out of
1:41:57
that group this is one organization
1:41:58
within the government of these you know
1:42:01
substitutes you need a you need Steve of
1:42:04
staff they bring one in from this dis
1:42:05
crowd she's a super stuck one of these
1:42:07
they were considered very high level
1:42:11
they don't even they don't even get the
1:42:13
same kind of government pay they get
1:42:15
more money mm-hmm and they're used as
1:42:17
hitmen kind of it's like a hitman
1:42:19
operation within the government that
1:42:20
they used to see that's how Trump gets
1:42:21
all these you know he has all these
1:42:22
people still doing work after firing
1:42:25
people because they bring them in from
1:42:26
this one organization well so so I was
1:42:30
just doing a little bit of research on
1:42:31
on Facebook and they actually have their
1:42:34
research arm has a you know had their
1:42:38
own website and it's typical researchers
1:42:40
they put everything up there and I was
1:42:42
really looking to see I guess I came up
1:42:44
with a with a with a thesis you know the
1:42:48
idea that Facebook and you know fake
1:42:50
news and BOTS and the Russians were
1:42:52
their rubles that that had somehow
1:42:54
changed that the election and you know
1:42:56
it tilted it all in Hillary's favor
1:42:58
based on what we think was what was it a
1:43:00
hundred thousand dollars was that kind
1:43:02
of the number did it all the trumps
1:43:03
favor so I'm thinking
1:43:07
you know maybe just maybe and this also
1:43:11
goes back to Hillary joking about
1:43:14
Zuckerberg you know that he says they
1:43:16
all look alike which I think was a
1:43:18
reference to no Cory Booker and an Eric
1:43:21
Holder oh no they they all look alike
1:43:22
don't they I think that might have been
1:43:24
a reference to the artificial
1:43:25
intelligence that can't seem to get
1:43:28
darker skin tones right King I don't
1:43:31
know what it is but I know somebody sent
1:43:32
a note specifically saying what it was
1:43:34
we'll get to that later but there was a
1:43:36
reference to something that happened
1:43:37
between senator Berg and and and Kara
1:43:40
okay when she interviewed it oh I didn't
1:43:43
know that okay well good but it was yeah
1:43:45
but let's just say just for a moment
1:43:47
that let's just say just for a moment
1:43:52
hillarie losses they have to somehow
1:43:55
blame this on Russia because they are
1:43:59
actually they colluded with Russia and
1:44:02
with the UK with the intelligence
1:44:04
services to get you know the steal
1:44:06
report and we're gonna blame it on you
1:44:09
know somehow on Facebook pages and I'm
1:44:11
thinking that if this is how my thinking
1:44:13
went it's like maybe they just had some
1:44:15
algos battling but it took him a long
1:44:17
time and they came up with you know
1:44:18
$100,000 worth of you know fake pages
1:44:22
with a with a little uh-oh and you know
1:44:25
with controversy and maybe it's just
1:44:27
BOTS who the hell knows maybe it was it
1:44:29
was Facebook's own BOTS I guess is what
1:44:31
I'm saying because they're not they're
1:44:34
no strangers to manipulating things when
1:44:36
it comes to voting and this is what I
1:44:37
stumbled upon a study that was published
1:44:42
in 2012 and this is from Facebook
1:44:47
Research a 61 million person experiment
1:44:50
in social influence and political
1:44:52
mobilization this is from 2012 but the
1:44:54
actual study took place in 2010 to man
1:45:00
here it is here we report the results
1:45:01
from a randomized controlled trial of
1:45:03
political mobilization messages
1:45:05
delivered to 61 million Facebook users
1:45:08
during the 2010 u.s. congressional
1:45:10
election so that's the the midterms of
1:45:14
2010 and they and and yes I would just
1:45:18
say for a go on what didn't like around
1:45:23
five or six years ago on our show wasn't
1:45:26
this moment where Facebook was busted
1:45:29
for doing one of these well that was
1:45:31
different doing one of these well that was
1:45:32
let's see that's what I thought I was
1:45:33
going to find that was the survey where
1:45:35
they put happy stuff in your feed and
1:45:37
saw if you were posting happy stuff if
1:45:39
they put negative stuff so they've been
1:45:42
doing different kinds of experiments
1:45:43
this is almost like never hurt me but
1:45:45
waiting the public John they actually
1:45:49
this was a real-world test
1:45:51
they took 61 million face
1:45:54
self-identified the Facebook users as in
1:45:57
self identified by party affiliation and
1:46:01
they conducted a number of experiments
1:46:04
showing your friends saying I voted
1:46:07
showing your friends friends saying I
1:46:10
voted and they here the results show
1:46:14
that online political mobilization can
1:46:16
have a direct effect on political
1:46:18
self-expression information seeking and
1:46:20
real-world voter behavior they claimed
1:46:23
in the results of this survey that are
1:46:28
our results suggests the Facebook social
1:46:31
message increased turnout directly by
1:46:33
60,000 votes and indirectly through
1:46:35
social contagion virality by another two
1:46:38
hundred and eighty thousand votes for
1:46:41
total of three hundred and forty
1:46:42
thousand additional votes that
1:46:44
represents 0.14 percent of the voting
1:46:47
age population of about two hundred
1:46:49
thirty six million in 2010 so they
1:46:52
actually measured in total then they
1:46:56
have a number here here the results
1:46:58
suggest that friends generated an
1:47:00
additional eight hundred and eighty six
1:47:02
thousand expressed votes they changed
1:47:05
voting behavior now maybe it was just to
1:47:08
get people to vote for the party they
1:47:09
were going to vote fruit for anyway but
1:47:12
as far back as 2010 they were doing this
1:47:15
stuff and they were i'm sure the sales
1:47:18
guys sheryl sandberg were saying look at
1:47:20
what we can do we can get your people
1:47:23
out to vote with an incredible increase
1:47:27
and this is not discussed anywhere now
1:47:30
fast forward to their next test which
1:47:32
was shut down in 2017 right after the
1:47:36
election in February and that these were
1:47:38
the headlines facebook chat bar chat
1:47:41
BOTS create their own language Facebook
1:47:44
takes him offline and they were doing
1:47:48
basically negotiations between BOTS but
1:47:51
if you look at the the research data
1:47:54
which they've also published here's what
1:47:57
it was about algorithmic information
1:47:59
sorting these technologies have the
1:48:02
potential to expose individuals to more
1:48:03
diverse viewpoints they also have the
1:48:05
potential to limit explosion exposure to
1:48:07
attitude challenging information which
1:48:10
is associated with the adoption of more
1:48:12
extreme attitudes over time and they did
1:48:16
this with another 10 million people they
1:48:18
have been fit trying to figure out how
1:48:20
to change people's minds or get them to
1:48:23
vote or any way to motivate them to do
1:48:25
something specifically in voting and
1:48:27
they did it during the elections
1:48:31
this needs to be discussed we're
1:48:35
discussing it I know but in maybe a
1:48:37
wider audience
1:48:39
I'll learn it but I'm not shocked but
1:48:42
I'm shocking no one has ever talked
1:48:44
about this
1:48:46
you think it would have been brought up
1:48:48
in the congressional hearings they get
1:48:50
people working there that notice now
1:48:52
they don't do crap beyond the direct
1:48:55
effects of online mobilization we show
1:48:57
the importance of social influence for
1:48:59
affecting behavior change our validation
1:49:01
study shows that close friends exerted
1:49:03
about four times more influence on the
1:49:05
total number of validated voters
1:49:06
mobilized than the message itself more
1:49:08
broadly the results suggest that online
1:49:10
messages might influence a variety of
1:49:12
offline behaviors this has implications
1:49:14
for understanding of the role of online
1:49:16
social media in society and no shit
1:49:18
Sherlock media in society and no shit
1:49:18
so what if these guys were really doing
1:49:21
stuff and
1:49:25
maybe they were just blamed for cover
1:49:28
and it kind of got out of control
1:49:30
because it turns out that there's
1:49:31
actually a lot of stuff that that's
1:49:33
going on with Facebook maybe it was all
1:49:35
hey dude we'll find some some bull crap
1:49:37
Russia stuff why didn't they show I mean
1:49:40
that's what I would have said okay
1:49:41
here's what's going on in in a
1:49:43
congressional hearing here's what we
1:49:45
found here's the research we've done you
1:49:47
know this can actually this there's
1:49:49
something to this maybe now none of that
1:49:53
maybe because if people want to exploit
1:49:56
it so they don't want to talk about it
1:49:57
well yeah I'm just surprised this all
1:50:00
this research they've been doing in
1:50:01
changing people's votes during elections
1:50:04
well they didn't change the change the
1:50:06
vote I thought you said in the second
1:50:07
secondary a lot in the secondary to 2016
1:50:10
in the 2016 election they had BOTS
1:50:12
fighting each other they called it
1:50:14
negotiating and they shut that down
1:50:17
right after the election and that was to
1:50:20
influence political challenges and
1:50:23
challenges in behavior
1:50:28
well this would be a very powerful
1:50:29
advertising tool for somebody running
1:50:31
for office no kidding
1:50:35
no kidding
1:50:38
Ola didn't get Hillary elected nope and
1:50:42
it seems like the OEC Twitter isn't
1:50:45
announced they got very they only got 2
1:50:47
point 1 million dollars in advertising
1:50:49
from all campaigns in this cycle that
1:50:52
seems low
1:50:54