November 22nd, 2018 • 2h 44m
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I'm curry from Northern Silicon
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where we did miss this effort
and it was
a unique 10-car train I'm John
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alright happy Thanksgiving and
tell me
Thanksgiving do you and you and
everyone
out there that will be
celebrating
Thanksgiving everyone except the
Canadians who already had
Thanksgiving
somewhere near the first of
November
you know the Dutch we've talked
about
this I just got back from my
trip to the
Gitmo nation lowlands the Dutch
you know
they love taking little
traditions and
just taking they don't really
like
America they think Trump is
horrible and
you know we're all racists but
interestingly even though what
we
already know they took
Halloween the
Dutch have Halloween
celebrations they
have Halloween parties it's not
spelled
the same it's Halloween which is
entirely based on the movies
that's why
they think it's cool hello
hello but of
course the Netherlands has no
Thanksgiving since you know
they were
not fortunate enough to kill
the natives
of our country and you know to
eat their
turkeys but they have all built
the
whole thing from scratch but
they have a
Black Friday now
which is tomorrow the same day
notices I
noticed this is going on in
England too
so we don't have Thanksgiving
cuz you
know it's not our celebration
not our
country but hey man we have
Black Friday
for shopping hidden unbelievable
yes I noticed this last year
when we
were anticipating Thanksgiving
it looks
right at a blind they have a
block
lighted and like Friday what
are you
guys talking about
and is this can it can we
somehow turn
this racist
would that be that would end it
why is
it called Black Friday what is
the
actual because it's the distant
one day
of the year that the books go
black they
go into the oh is that really
the reason
yeah into the oh is that really
the reason
it's not because we see tons of
black
people piling on top of each
other in
the Walmart that's about it
it's about this that one day
where they
all of a sudden now these
department
stores are in a profit mode
I'm good money now okay I don't
think if
you went on the street and you
asked
anyone went on the street and
you asked
I don't think three out of ten
would
know what he would over to have
that
answer I never knew until I
looked it up
there was some years back is it
where
they call this Black Friday's
kind of
disgusting that's when things
are
supposed to go bad is Black
Friday it's
when the market crashed yes
black it's a
black that's a black day it's
like a
dead that's a black day it's
like a
yeah all of this way the books
flip ah I
didn't realize that interesting
well
they do have that such new on
the no
agenda story yes yes you do yes
car
train is part of these ten car
trains
for the last week and I'm
thinking as
I've been looking at these
trains again
why are they ten cars all of a
sudden
they've always been eight maybe
nine and
it turns out that it was like
yesterday
was the number one travel day
of all
time I mean this is the time
that
everyone travels apparently
yesterday
was the big day just thinking
to myself
what idiot would travel on a
day like
that that would be me that's
right I
came home yesterday although I
was
traveling from from Gitmo
lowlands
through London back to Austin
so I
didn't really have the the you
know the
National internal rush that we
had and
it was actually it was booze
okay but
let me tell you it what do you
mean the
internal reach over the interim
would
you know us or just domestic
domestic
flights would they be tried
there's no
Thanksgiving in Europe no but
that's the
only thing that's the only
thing that
was really messed up
international
flights coming in there was no
real
issue going to that going to a
u.s.
Airport standing in u.s.
airport line
that's what I'm saying I didn't
I was at
the airport at five in
Amsterdam to get
out believe me very calm at
that time
of hope and then I flew to
London you
know you London you go to
terminal five
and you have to you stay within
the
terminal but then you have to
know stop
back up people the Netherlands
people
answered an airport as you
leave the
country this is new I have not
seen this
before this is new I have not
seen this
do you scan your boarding card
you can
see the the customs guy right
there
because there is a exit
interview in the
Netherlands for your customs
when you're
leaving they stamp you in stamp
you out
but before that this is you
know there's
gates and you have to stay a
little
glass gates you have to go into
a portal
like a subway station you scan
your
boarding card and then it says
look here
boom boom boom this is light
flashing
off to the right you see
yourself on the
camera and it's doing a
complete you
know facial recognition scan
almost
makes the sound um it blasted
about
thirty seconds before it
finally let me
in I had I took my glasses off
I know
maybe it's good maybe that
helped or not
they couldn't find me but it's
your got
a scan of me you know if it
wasn't
scanning it was making one I
don't like
that this is that I don't
understand
that's just that just can't
appeared out
of the blue and of course
that's after
you then slide your passport
into their
little scanner so they're
linking my
face with my passport now that
you know
the passport doesn't have a
picture
anyway then you go to London
now you're
in terminal five you arrive in
terminal
five and you want to do a
transit so you
again you go through similar
little
glass gates you scan your your
your
boarding card and then you have
to go
through security again have you
ever
done this secure I don't know
if I've
talked about this have you ever
done the
security going back to the u.s.
in
terminal five
at Heathrow because you have to
do you
have to essentially go through
a whole
security process again except
these
agents are dicks there they're
rude
they're just asses many of the
women at
American agents know these are
British
these are British and they are
rude they
they treat you like you're an
idiot
you know it's it's very to me
it feels
the very chauvinistic Brits you
know you
don't understand this prep I
Spit on you
foreigner it's like just
assholes I
really could really go to me
and it's
like I've had this a couple of
times
it's just like wow you know
they gets to
the point where of course my
bag has to
be ripped open but you know
they're
really cavalier they walk back
and forth
this excuse me I'm kind of
waiting on my
bag then they give you a look
and they
make you wait five more minutes
yeah
that other other passing my bag
in which
they've opened up and you know
and they
should scuse me I need the
space this is
that you just unpack this and
I'm
packing it in yes yeah I need
the space
you have to move repeat this
passengers
fellow passengers saying you
take your
time you know we will wait for
her just
their passes and I saw every
single I
had three hours later what is
going on
with those people
ah those people
it's vets unbraid --is-- in a
way this
is very unbreathing true brits
but they
just treat you with disdain and
I'm not
saying our TSA officers are any
better
yelling at you but it's so
surprising
because you don't expect it in
the UK
anyway there you go
so what was my point well you
were
talking about well we were
trying to
discuss the tribulations of
travelling
on the worst travel yes there
you go
there you go so for me
otherwise it was
fine just took forever to you
land in
Austin you're you're right
you're good
to go with the suitcase I don't
know I
think they've already been pre
checked
in London is that the idea yeah
checked
all the way through yeah and
then you
just get off and lost and
you're done
well yeah you wait for an hour
and a
half because when you when you
are pre
checked you get that long
transit
sticker and of course they put
you I
guess somewhere way in the
front or the
back of the plane and so your
first on
and definitely last off with
your
baggage missus just whatever
I'm its
first world problems
however quick update sports no
yes from
us over here in the San
Francisco Bay
Area over here in the San
Francisco Bay
the Warriors suck the Dutch as
you know
they had trounced and
humiliated the
World Cup winner France all
they had to
do is had a have a tie score
against the
Germans their second game
against the
Germans and it looked like we
were all
gonna have to jump off of the
balcony
because it was they were to
kneel down
at the half and they pulled it
out of
their butts and tied the
Germans in the
last minutes they came for
their bikes
and they took back a wheel not
the whole
thing but at least the wheel
very proud of the Duchess was a
big deal
yeah yeah tying a game with
Germany yes
and interesting that nil nil no
it was
it was no it was to nil to to
form is to
to there was to nil for most of
the game
and then at the very Lin the
very last
10 minutes they pull the one
out that
doll do the Hat that's actually
called
doing it it's never mind you're
just
gonna scoff it doesn't matter I
will no
I will no longer talk about the
most
popular sport in the world I
won't do
that sport in the world I won't
do
what do you think it is the
most popular
sport because the actions in
the stands
or people beaten up each other
no oh
it's a very simple sport that
anyone can
play just need a ball and a
couple of
sticks it's a it's a sport
everybody can
pick up immediately you can't
just you
need a basketball when your
hoops to
play basketball and and this in
soccer
football predates so many
sports mystics
is an exciting sport just not
on TV
well it's never gonna be good
on TV as
you've pointed out before no
advertising
no what you can't put if you
can't put
it on TV they don't stop the
game like
cannot put it on the TV all
right back
just back to Thanksgiving for a
moment
do we need to do the story of
Thanksgiving it's kind of a
tradition
shorten it up a little bit yeah
I'd like
you to give a quick recap and
then I
have a great from an old column
I wrote
in 2004 the term Thanksgiving
was
brandished throughout US
history and
officially codified by Lincoln
in 1863
at the behest of an activist
woman
writer named Sarah Hale before
1863
there was no Thanksgiving per
se but a
lot of proclamations giving
thanks for
this and that some some called
Thanksgiving there are
virtually no
thanksgiving events from the
Thomas
Jefferson administration until
Sarah
revitalized the dying idea her
rationale
was that Americans didn't have
enough
holidays really she had the
right idea
there the Lincoln Thanksgiving
was
justified as a celebration of
the
North's victory in winning the
Battle of
Gettysburg and had absolutely
nothing to
do with pilgrims or anything of
the sort
that nonsense was all reverse
engineered
by sentimentalists even the
first
supposed to Thanksgiving in
1621 which
is kind of funny because I was
reading
on Twitter about how suddenly
George
Washington is now the inventor
of
Thanksgiving is now the
inventor of
it never ends it never ends this
changing story of the fake
thanksgiving
thanksgiving for 1621 there's a
three-day one-shot party
modeled after
something called the harvest
home it
wasn't called Thanksgiving
harvest home
was the end of the harvest party
celebrated in parts of the
British Isles
this party didn't happen again
in fact
most of these invited Indian
guests to
the 1621 event were later
butchered by
the growing population of
settlers
Thanksgiving anyway good
there's other
examples of these one-shots and
it was
Lincoln who made this is never
just the
last of the story lincoln who
made it a
yearly event also made it stick
to the
fourth Thursday in November it
only
changed I get this it only
changed for
two years during the Franklin
Roosevelt
administration and moved up a
week in
hopes of stretching believe
this this is
a fact and in hopes of
stretching the
Christmas buying pattern Oh an
extra
week I believe that that makes
that it
totally sounds American helping
the
economy it was already a known
fact that
Thanksgiving was the kickoff to
Christmas buying a slew of
half-hearted
traditionalist and that he get
these
traditionalists found the
Roosevelt
change an abomination census
somehow
insulted pilgrims or the DAR oh
who
knows who and it was changed
back after
a couple of years of bickering
right so
let's think so Thanksgiving is
bogus and
now we have a new thing which
is the
addition to the old story of
this thing
called friendsgiving what oh
yeah this
is height look it up oh this
sounds like
a social justice warrior move
well what
it what it's supposed to be
this got two
things going on with it one of
them is
slightly slightly one of them is
extremely disgusting if you
look it up
in the urban dictionary a
definition
number for friendsgiving is
where you
dip your nuts into the turkey
gravy and
film it and then serve the
gravy and
then show people the film like
a couple
weeks late
John you need to get another
column or
something because you're
spelling that's
too much time on the internet
looking at
weird shit man this has got a
stuff so
friendsgiving is which is
you'll see the
term a lot used especially this
year is
the idea that you have friends
over as
though you never did friends
over for
the Thanksgiving feast
instead of or in lieu of or in
place of
family Oh
Thanksgiving means family
friends giving
means friends because we hate
the family
yeah oh gosh yeah and above the
balls in
the net the net friends giving
and
seeing his yeah I I'm not gonna
have any
gravy I was not supposed to
even do a
show today but you know seeing
is you
were only thinking of yourself
yeah here
we are
here's how it went we I'll tell
you the
story from my perspective now
we got to
move on I was pretty convinced
we had
discussed having a best of
interview
show on Thanksgiving this year
and John
had done one interview with the
mooch
and I think we're gonna do
another one
or it was kind of a little bit
a couple
lined up it was a little
unclear but was
pretty sure we're gonna do a
special
show and then John was all like
well I
don't have to cook anyway no
one's
coming over so I'm screwed I'm
just
we're gonna do a show I'm like
yeah I
have I have a people coming you
didn't
consider me for one second
really so UK you could've just
said no
the reason is right I tried you
went nah
man no okay the real reason the
real
reason is that we've got show
1089 33
square right coming up the next
show
this Sunday and I think we
needed to
tease it this is just a
promotional
episode episode
I forgot I I now I understand
I'm
completely on board let me then
move
into this do you have any idea
when
their tradition started of the
United
States President pardoning a
turkey for
Thanksgiving President
pardoning a turkey for
I'm glad you asked because I'm
assuming
now that you know no I don't
you did
some research I know no I
believe it's
the the first president might
have been
no I don't know I did the
reason I don't
know is because I did not look
it up
because I don't care and it's a
totally
fake event and it's something
every
president does every single
year and
it's spot open Trump wait wait
just be
quiet spot open Trump wait wait
just be
it's fun it's like it's fake
it's
make-believe it's like Santa
Claus it's
like black Petes it's like it's
just
fake fun can the news media
today just
play along just for one day
just play
along for one day with the fake
that
everyone knows is fake without
insulting
or without pulling some other
crap into
it you know the orange man bad
no it
doesn't seem to be possible I
cut out
all the ceremonious stuff just
got you
the intro and the outro the
president is
actually about to take the
podium at the
White House we're going to go
ahead and
listen in there at this Rose
Garden
event it's actually the turkey
pardon I
mean you can't make this up
happening at
this moment the fact that she
starts off
by saying you can't make this
up I'm
like wait a minute is this
something new
did they not know the president
does a
fake pardoning of a turkey
I mean you hear that aren't you
set up
and and very interested as to
why then
this year is different I was
that
introduction makes it sound very
singular that Obama never did
it or Bush
never did it or Clinton never
did it or
Kennedy never did it or Johnson
never
did it and I was I was even more
surprised by what it was all
about
president is actually about to
take the
podium at the White House we're
going to
go ahead and listen in there at
this
Rose Garden event it's actually
the
turkey pardon I mean you can't
make this
up happening at this moment
let's listen
you seated good afternoon
everyone a
very special day at the White
House we
are thrilled to be joined today
and
there you have it president
Trump
pardoning the Thanksgiving
turkey the
annual tradition peas the name
of this
turkey and just the most unusual
dichotomy here as this comes on
the
heels of a statement that the
president
has put out essentially
pardoning Saudi
Arabia and the crown prince in
the king
there despite what I mean if
you if
that's you have to now take the
pardoning of a turkey and say
what an
unbelievable dichotomy as he's
essentially pardoning Saudi
Arabia from
their atrocities that is the
biggest
sharp junk.just sharp jump I've
ever
seen and well for the stop on
that that
subject matter for one second
which is
Trump says that he had a
briefing from
Gina the head of the CIA and I
guess
somebody at the FBI guy or
someone and
he says they don't know really
what
happened now there's no report
did you
see a report yet was there see
no report
but yet all these news media
outlets
keeps saying the CIA the CIA
the CIA
citing some mysterious report
based on
is apparently someone at the
Washington
Post saying it's that it exists
the
Washington Post published yeah
it exists
it's coming according to people
familiar
with the process according to
sources
who could not be identified
according to
sources who do would not speak
on the
record because they were not
authorized
to do so
this is it's so easy these days
just
print a headline say I got some
sources
and B the Washington Post and
you can do
whatever you want and now this
is has
contaminated the fake turkey
pardoning
call the dichotomy because he's
pardoning a real nation
although there's
no actual pardon there's no
pregnant
presidential pardon going to
Saudi
Arabia pardon going to Saudi
this is you know they only have
sovereignty over Saudi Arabia
that we
can pardon anybody do they not
see the
irony of this or are they just
trying to
be followed the public or no
but it's
still not too far away from the
sovereignty we must seem to see
over
Julian Assange is not even
American
citizens right we're gonna
they've
indicted him for some reason
that
somebody's that we used to die
trend and
people that did are Australians
while we
indict random Russians
yeah we did right we died
amateur random
Russian sir it'll never show up
except
for the one so boating except
for the
one guy that actually said it
yeah I'm
going taking you to court
you know they don't know what
to do
about that
well as couple Russians come
over here
on the diamond ask for
discovery that'll
take care of that problem
so and it's being in Europe for
a week
you release you can almost see
these
little cyclones of outrage that
are just
spinning around yeah you don't
and the
whole different time zone so
you get the
news and it's just very
different and I
was receiving it in a very
different
manner I wasn't on Twitter
incessantly
you know just you know reading
some
stuff you know getting snooze
stories
from people and you can just
see it's
all it's so much about nothing
and then
you know it's all it's all like
this
turkey story it's all like oh
no this ha
and now we have to assure you
yes that
if Trump I thought I was
actually
convinced and I was regretful
that he
didn't drop this stupid idea
and I can
assure you that if he had said
no we're
not doing that dumb
hmm well I did want to do a
little
segment here I have two clips
because
I've noticed a very distinct
narrative
that's taking place a
conversation and
the conversation goes something
like
this I like what Trump does I
hate the
way he does it except it's a
little
different we're now talking
about we're
talking about policy versus
style style
you see and this is now it's
kind of be
use as a defense
so Trump supporters which by
the way are
called Trump supporters around
the world
it's not Trump voters or
Republicans or
people who like him even in in
Holland
it's or in the UK I was in both
over the
past week Trump supporters Trump
supporter what does that even
mean
Trump supporters well they have
another
term that they used here a lot
which is
called the base the base yeah
yes well
this is policy versus style and
you'll
hear people who do favor the
president's
policy often saying but I
disapprove of
his style and this came up in -
I'm
trying to think which one to
play first
actually I'll do this this was
Don Lemon
it's a rather long clip but I
really
think it's interesting the
conversation
was between four women
we had a white Democrat a white
Republican a black University of
Berkeley professor of history
Stephanie
Rogers and we had black Don
Lemon so
four women are on the panel and
I know
it's just meaning me to say
that but I
can't help it
they're all coffee coffee
clutching and
the assertion from the
professor of
history Stephanie Rogers
is that women white women
actually have
have have been a part of the
white
supremacy and institutional
racism that
has that dominates all things
unfair in
our country
and although not everyone agrees
ultimately it comes down to how
he says
stuff or what he says versus
policy and
then we'll kind of wind that up
with a
with a with an MSNBC clip but
first just
listen to this because it's but
the
whole conversation is just
intense to me
when it comes to divisiveness
through
racism definitely you you are
quoted in
this Fox article is saying for
centuries
white women have invested in
white
supremacy because their
whiteness
affords them a particular kind
of power
that their gender does not
explain what
you mean by that so you see
this is a
pretty loaded topic right off
the bat so
as a historian I explore white
womens
economic investments in the
institution
of slavery white women I gotta
stop this
white men women's investments
in the
institutional what does she say
the
institutional institution so as
a
historian I explore white
women's
economic investments in the
institution
of slavery white womens economic
investments in the institution
of
slavery very small minority of
people
that had slaves in the south at
well not
a much momentary but it wasn't
minority
manometer economic investment
economic
that means they're putting
money into it
or I think what she might be
headed
toward is that well now you
have slaves
you don't have to do the dishes
and what
that has led me to understand
is that
there's this broader historical
context
that we need to keep in mind
when we
when we're looking at white
women's
voting patterns today and as we
look at
you know their their support
their you
know overwhelming support of
Donald
Trump when when a professor is
trying to
explain such a heavy topic as
this and
laughs right off the bat white
womens
support of Donald Trump's I
mean this is
a jail right there because the
white
women's support of Donald Trump
was 51%
like a major deal hahaha
voting patterns today and as we
look at
you know their their support
their you
know overwhelming
a supporter of Donald Trump and
so tell
us that laugh tell yeah but
it's not
okay than this topic it's not
nothing
funny that support is 51% I
wholly call
that a bandwagon I think of
white women
as primarily focusing focusing
on their
gendered oppression that
because they
are oppressed as women that that
oppression will allow for them
to ally
and to to sympathize with other
dispossessed and disempowered
peoples in
the nation but my research
actually
shows that they long long had a
deep
investment in white supremacy
and not
only did they benefit from it
but they
participated in its
construction and its
perpetuation she left again not
just in
the context of slavery not just
in the
colonial period but well after
slavery
was over so Alice why do you
think that
white women support President
Trump do
you think they identify more
with being
as she said white than they do
with
being female she's also you
know so here
it is again we I think we
really need to
start listening to some of the
words
because there's a difference
between I
voted for him and I support him
and so
they're kind of taking this 52%
voted
for him into they support him
and this
is where we start to diverge
I think this Stephanie woman I
think she
may be the lucky she's the white
Republican or the white will
here your
period but well after slavery
was over
so Alice why do you think that
white
women support President Trump
do you
think they identify more with
being as
she said white than they do
with being
female she just said that I
think when
we're talking about the
political arena
voters women and men identify
themselves
as either Republican Democrat
independent or whatever their
political
party and I strongly disagree
with the
characterization let's stop
right there
I don't identify as any
anything I just
I'm just a voter I'm sorry I
just I
reject that out of hand
I'm just voting I'm not I do
not belong
to a party can democratic hold
on
a lot of people do identify
with their
party sure and a lot of people
are
independent which would be you
I don't
identify to think because the
parties
have been so screwy that the
independent
the independent numbers have
increased
to the point where they have to
everyone
else I cater to them you know
cater to
the Republicans if you're a
Republican
because you know you're gonna
get their
vote so you cater to these these
independents so-called swing
voters and
because they can go either way
their swing I'm just I'm just
saying
that I reject someone telling
me that I
have to identify with some
party even if
it's an in if it's independent
I just identify as me I think
when we're
talking about the political
arena voters
women and men identify
themselves as
either Republican Democrat
independent
or whatever their political
party and I
strongly disagree with the
characterization that women are
oppressed and by nature of that
oppression they should
naturally vote
for another group of people
that are
oppressed I think that's just
not how
politics works I think as a
Republican
or a Democrat or whatever your
political
leanings is you should vote for
people
that represent those policies
I'm a
Republican I support this
president I
voted for this president I did
so
because of his policy I do not
agree
with his tone and tenor Donilon
your
tone and tenor we got to write
that down
that's what it is tone and tenor
discounting his behavior his
tone his
tactics the things he says
about women
has denigrating women and I
don't
tolerate that but this is
policies or
what I stand for but you don't
have to
support him you could not vote
I mean
that's it this is the this is
the White
Democrat the white woman
Democrat who
now says you could just not
vote which
is also a way to identify but
is the
policies or what I stand for
but you
don't have to support him you
could not
vote I mean that's the thing I
could say
there's a Democrat who does
everything
that I agree with but they say
misogynist or racist thing I
would not
vote for them and and I just
want to
step back for a second and say
look we
spent a lot of time talking
about
Republican Women look there's a
problem
with white women it doesn't
matter
whether they're Democrats or
Republicans
or not
thing there's a problem with
racism
every everybody every white
person
benefits from an inherently
racist
system that is structurally
racist we
are all we're all part of the
problem so
I'm going to point my finger at
you know
just are you white point my
finger at
you or an another person but I
think we
have to recognize that there
are there's
institutional racism in this
country and
I saying I'm just going to
support
somebody who you just said says
racist
things and does racist things
you see
you see other conflate well
they're just
talking they're just saying
that they
have no examples but they're
conflating
support with with voting and
then it's
you know it's the tone I don't
agree
with this tone we'll get back
to the
Stephanie here for the last 30
seconds
there's a problem just a point
of
clarification so I did not say
that
white women voted for Trump
because they
were racist what I would I
actually said
their historical context and
which white
supremacy is quite important to
right
women not simply as the mound of
beneficiaries of white
supremacy but as
part orchestrators part of the
built you
know the builders yes women
helped build
white supremacy help help me
understand
John what is let's just get
some terms
what is white supremacy as the
bully I
just saw yes just off the top
of your
head sure belief that what the
white
race per se is superior to the
other
races so what she's saying is
that even
today women helped build the
I believe I guess that white
people are
superior to all other races
that's what
she's saying but how did how
would you
do that
I guess by voting for a white
guy yeah
okay in that case yeah I guess
the kind
of beneficiaries of white
supremacy but
as part orchestrators part of
the bill
you know the builders of
premise II so
just to clarify that and I
agree totally
with what Kristin said this is
this is
not about simply conservative
white
women this is a phenomenon that
is
spread across the country
whether in the
south or the north you can see
that this
is and it's not an indictment
against
all white women this is about a
certain
you know a certain percentage
of these
white women who do indeed vote
for a man
who is certainly not speaking
to their
interests as women or as human
beings so
I think what she's saying is
you can't
vote for someone based on his
policies
if if you deem that person to
be hateful
towards women
or annoying in general it
sounds like
yes so you know your point of
course
would you which you made is
well what
races and what misogyny and now
we go to
the second clip this was a
fascinating I
was meet the pronoun no Face
the Nation
MSNBC you know that's not to
face the
nation is at CBS
I think so yeah depressive B
NBC Face
the Nation Dan they had four or
five of
new new freshmen coming into
the House
of Representatives including Dan
Crenshaw and he is the Iraq
veteran who
had his who was missing an eye
has the
eyepatch he was the subject of
the
controversy on Saturday Night
Live which
I thought actually was kind of
solved in
a nice nice man or the next
week a nice
to him well of course it's
thanks to him
and I'm liking this guy now so
he's
going to call out this penguin
when I
forget who it's another
freshman coming
in says well you know and we've
heard
this a million times he's
undermining
our democracy the Democrat he's
ripping
apart I'm talking about Trump
ripping
apart democratic institutions
orange man
bad and so Crenshaw says well
could you
just give me some examples and
I thought
this whole set although it went
way over
everyone's head I thought this
I thought
the segment was outstanding to
show you
just how vapid this argument is
but you
know my experience thus far and
I think
Deb can before we start off if
someone
said to you please give me some
examples
how Trump is undermining our
democracy
would you I mean just thinking
from any
kind of dimension what kind of
examples
could we come up with well I
could I
would say that by assigning a
lot of
super conservative judges and
every
bench around but is that funder
mining
the democracy no I'm sorry yes
from my
mistake yes okay so
conservative judges
conservative judges is
undermining the
democracy yes exactly
what else is undermining the
democracy
right rushing through the
Supreme Court
justices okay rushing through
yeah
undermining that would be
undermining
the democracy um belittling and
going
through staffers too quickly
these going
through too much firing yes too
much
fire now it's fire undermines
the
democracy to the firing right
right
cozying up to Putin oh yes yes
collusion
yeah yeah
losin cozying up yes that's
undermining
our democracy going along with
that not
not doing somebody the American
Lib did
the non American citizen but the
American resident oh yes
[Music] resident oh yes
what what we realize here is
that none
of these are actual things that
undermine our democracy and
undermining
the democracy would be doing
something
with the you know the three
branches of
government that would really
break it
but an actual undermining but
you know
maybe they have some examples
let's
listen to this this is a very
nice
little conversation but you
know my
experience thus far and I think
Deb can
touch on this as well as a
number the
Progressive Caucus but no I
don't think
that's the case I think we are
all
working together rowing in the
same
direction trying to save our
democracy
to be frank and so save our
democracy
well look I think that right
now it's
important for this majority in
the house
to engage its some really
critical
oversight of an administration
that is
undermining a lot of critical
freedoms
for folks in our country
undermining a
lot of critical freedoms for
folks that
live in our country
that's what we need to remember
and so
when I say save our democracy I
mean
precisely that that I think
some of our
democratic freedoms and the
principles
that we live by have been do
you know
should we try to make a list
some of our
democratic freedoms that have
gone there
being that are in harm's way
I think there are artani no I
think
they're all pretty much intact
including
you know the right to go say
stupid
stuff still kind of okay I have
been
under attack for the better
part of the
last two years congressman
elect do you
want to respond to that since
the
president has is the leader of
your
party yeah why I always ask the
question
like like what you know like
what is the
undermining exactly you know
what what
democratic freedoms have been
undermined
we just had an election where we
switched switched power in the
house
democracy is at work people are
voting
and we're in record numbers
sounds about
right to me I always asked for
example
and then we can hit those
examples one
by one and if it's and if it's
worth now
now are you ready just so he's
gonna say
please give me some examples
the whole
group including the hosts of the
moderator of this panel is
going to jump
in and it's just like a
diarrhea of
words and these are all things
that are
undermining our democracy
utilizing it's
worth criticizing but just kind
of this
broad brush criticism that the
president
is somehow undermining our
democracy I
always wonder that what exactly
we're
talking I see a free pass and
they can't
no one's no one's actually
speaking an
entire sentence I always wonder
what
exactly we're talking about
many press members under
investigation
Trump is not last week one of
the
largest media publications in
the United
States right had to go to a
federal
court in order to essentially
regain
access or turn one reporter
including
CBS did file amicus that's
right and
they as they actually believe
that this
court case was a First
Amendment court
case which it was not but
that's okay
you know did they really
thought Trump
really tried to undermine our
democracy
with that support yeah
so I mean obviously it's much
larger
because he was disrupted but
well
disruptive in those very same
press
conferences and I would argue
the heat
press though so how is that
undermining
our democracy and here's an
important
one how is that attacking the
press
because it's literally in a
towel I've
literally been attacked
I think this too bad this kind
of just
got glossed over the guy's been
blown up
he was literally blown up by an
AED and
they have the gall to say he's
attacking
I feel a talk he says I did I
was really
attacked they're all too
chickenshit to
say anything about it it's very
same
press conferences and I would
argue the
press though because it's
literally in a
towel I've literally been
attacked so I
choose our words carefully
language is
and it's okay so why can't you
speak why
why is he not allowed to use
his own
language and freedom of speech
oh okay
now we get to a very sticky
point why
can the president not exercise
his First
Amendment right and speak
freely well of
course it's unpresidential
because and
you talked about this actually
it's
important that we lead for an
example
that we made from our president
I agree
with you
I agree with you their style is
one
thing if you wanna criticize
dial I'm
with you right but to say it's
an attack
on the freedom of the press
that is a
very bold statement by calling
the press
the enemy of the people
literally I
don't like that one break news
of course
undermining us with his
rhetoric about
erasing trans people in our
country that
he's erasing trans people LGBTQ
community and I think that's a
troublesome and I think that's a
I think it's worrisome we all
have
communities and I mean across
this
country and and we mentioned it
at the
beginning ripping children away
from
their parents arms things that
undermine
our democracy worry me that I
absolutely
feel that we have to just you
know my
CIA and the FBI and the State
Department
and all those important
institutions
that are fundamental to how our
democracy work what I hear lot
of
intelligence agencies are now
apparently
fundamental to how our
democracy works
well how about histories you
started
with the top of the CIA which
was
founded in 1947 is fundamental
to do yes
FBI that that actively sought
out people
who are communists to to shame
them and
throw them out of the country
lives
through in their lives that's
that's
important for our democracy it
they keep
our democracy working please
lady
absolutely feel that we have to
be I and
the State Department and all
those
important institutions that are
fundamental to how our
democracy works
what I hear a lot is you don't
like what
he says and sometimes okay but
you don't
like them but you're saying
undermining
democracy and I and I want to
own a
caution us because those are
very bold
words if we have policy
disagreements
let's focus on those policy
disagreements not only happy to
discuss
those at any point but this is
what I've
been getting at kind of all
week which
is we tend to we tend to go
right at the
jugular right we say you're
undermining
democracy or a bad person
fundamentally
that's not always true we have
policy
with a lot of these things I
think it's
interesting that we talked
about some of
the most divisive issues
including
immigration but the thing that
set all
of you off was the president we
have to
leave the conversation there
thank you
so much so this morning Tina
you know
she always gives me a rundown
of what
she's seeing on Twitter and she
said if
it was been her boy Ben who's
had been
come at because this show on Fox
Ben Dan ben shapiro ben shapiro
people
never show on fox he didn't
yeah - oh
he's gonna be a fox regular
shapiro
nobody likes him in Shapiro
said that
interestingly Trump Trump's
policies in
many ways are exactly the same
as
Obama's policies but and this
is his
words the Shapiro said and I
know a lot
of people agree with him that
because of
the way Trump says it that's why
everyone goes apeshit and I say
no if
he'd if he did it the same way
Obama did
it it would be even worse
press will be up in arms that
he's doing
it secretly all this evil stuff
in there
is no - there's no there's no
way around
this style part of the
presentation it
doesn't make any difference I
agree with
you yeah I mean there is just
such a
hatred of this guy yes it is
they can't
do anything about anyways
that's the way
it is what can they do
[Music] is what can they do
let's catch up to the Acosta
situation
this is the Acosta up that's
funny let's
get play Acosta update oops
misfired Acosta update this
morning CNN
is asking for an emergency
hearing this
is after the White House is
warned that
they may pull our colleague Jim
Acosta
stress paths again you thought
this was
all settled last week well on
Friday the
network won a temporary
restraining
order forcing the White House
to restore
Acosta's potentials for 14 days
but just
after that White House
officials sent
Acosta a letter saying they may
suspend
his pass once that order
expires you
know choose media correspondent
brian
Stelter is with us so TR OS
temporary
restraining orders by nature
they last
for two weeks 14 days okay
that's all
the time you have right CNN
wants hear
the judge to move to a more
lasting
decision but a separate
injunction yes
CNN was victorious in round one
I said
on Friday we don't know how
many rounds
there's going to be looks like
there's
going to be many rounds in this
legal
battle do you notice that no
one seems
to be giving any details the
battle is
self because now almost as soon
as that
temporary restraining order was
put into
effect on Friday bill shine and
Sarah
Sanders two of the defendants
in the
lawsuit sent a letter to Acosta
two-page
letter that I have here that
essentially
lays the groundwork to take the
press
pass and revoke it again which
would
essentially be at the end of
the month
you know for the 11 days from
today yeah
yeah I really this is such a
they're
such liars this is such a
disservice to
the viewership to people who are
interested in what's going on
and you
have to go you actually have to
get
through the Wall Street Journal
hey wall
to be able to read actually
what's going
on yeah unless you know where
to find a
you know docket and actual
paperwork
well if you go to private
browser
sometimes you have a brave
actually is
quite good for this but I'm
just saying
that no one seems to want to
talk about
you know what the the
restraining order
was about it was it was not a
First
Amendment discussion you know
they're
not even in that lovely great
detail I
know I just want to make sure
people
hear it again I want to make
sure people
hear it again this was not a
First
Amendment Cait Court okay a
court
not yet at least but there's a
solution
there is a solution
to this because this is this is
unless
you have another clip than I'd
like to
play a you I thought you'd I
thought you
had I do some do read the by do
thing in
front of your something I got
no I have
a clip I have a solution clip
the
solution to the issue of the
White House
press events carl bernstein
very famous
man he wrote he no he didn't
write it he
the washington the the great
uncovering
of watergate along with yeah
well that's
been yeah man woodward yeah Carl
Bernstein who by that I put in
the show
notes again who know has has
published
on his own blog which still
exists today
how many people of the press
were
working for CIA including
himself but
here's his idea it's it's a fix
it will
save democracy we need to start
thinking
of a different way to cover his
press
conferences and briefings for
instance I
don't think we should be taking
them
live all the time and just
pasting them
up on the air because they're
basically
propagandist exercises because
they are
overwhelmed by his dishonesty
and lying
so how could we cover them
differently
maybe we should be there edit
decide as
reporters what is news and
after the
press conference or briefing is
over
then go with that story with
clips
rather than treating the
briefing or
press conference as a campaign
event I
think this is a grand idea
let's know
what we do let's couple no
let's let's
combat propaganda with actual
propaganda
of editing clips down and
presenting it
in a certain light yeah you
would love
that but he's gonna take it
even further
because you know we can still
keep
democracy alive through this
thing
called them Oh what is it a
website
which they really are in which
we did in
the campaign as well we gave
them all
this free airtime on cable news
especially we need to start
treating it
like a news event and look in
cable we
have websites you can put up to
the
total press conference on our
websites
that everybody has the chance
to see it
or their briefing and we ought
as long
as we can provide the spin
doing it's a
matter of record and we can be
the place
of record so everybody can see
every
word if they want it but we
need to
start editing yes here's the
story not
just give him a microphone when
we know
that his methodology is to
engage and
manipulate us on the basis of
lying
propaganda and a drip rock
there it is
ladies and gentlemen what was
his last
word propaganda I thought no we
need to
search his ruffled ing
properties to
engage and manipulate us on the
basis of
lying propaganda and a drupe
rock-and-roll bathrobe prop
tells and
throw props I thought it was
had you had
your prop that's what I thought
he said
agitprop at first but then I
hear it
again it is something I never
heard
never heard this word anthro
pop I don't
know what he's saying I have no
idea hmm
so he should put his words on a
website
so we can understand what he's
talking
about but but for this is the
guy that
many of today's journalists
will say oh
I got in I want to become a
journalist
because I want to be like
Woodward and
Bernstein and here he is
advocating for
editing out any context and
just here's
the story and we'll play you a
clip and
it wishes I remember growing up
we were
moving towards something very
dangerous
it was called the news bite the
sound
bite I'm sorry the sound bite
news
reporting sound bite news
reporting and
everyone recognized that is
universally
bad and this must have been 15
20 years
ago maybe even a little longer
the
longer and you know this is
what it is
the the problem is the Internet
has
actually given us the opposite
of that
we can go to a website called
gee c-span
and you can get the whole
everything in its entirety in
context
and he doesn't like that
no he's but he's he not the
bastion of
journalism let me not see the
same thing
about him he wasn't even in the
news as
a high profile character
recently I mean
wasn't you know when in the
sixties and
seventies but then he he guy he
kept
seeing Woodward coming up with
these
thick books he was getting
screwed on
the whole deal and he wasn't
getting
this action and so he chimed in
as worse
he's like a left-wing fanatic
and it's
it's fascinating to watch him
go on and
on about one thing or another
cuz all
very slanted
I just found this to be very
disturbing
that that he would suggest that
we have
to chop it up and just play
clips and
pretty much I mean we know what
that
means I mean would he say he's
saying
you have to be it has to be
uniike aunt
give him a microphone because I
guess
the people can't parse what
he's saying
themselves I mean that's what
he's
saying I mean that's what he's
yeah you're too stupid to stoop
you're
thinking wrong fort fort
anarchic oh yes
yes yeah we're dictated for
dictatorships yeah
he's advocating for that yeah
okay well
it's insane
coming from him well he's been
kind of
all he's been kind of unhinged
for quite
a while it seems to me they
better go so
unchallenged while it seems to
me they better go so
in a brine seltzer water
sitting right
there oh yeah that's a great
idea we
should do that yeah they're all
the same
boat so we we can't let people
decide
for themselves now this is why
they want
two things yeah everybody oh
yeah that
galls me a great president if
it wasn't
for Twitter yeah it wouldn't be
president if it wasn't for
Twitter
that's the point here I got the
heyo she
is this her latest yes a civics
lesson
we need a jingle we need a
jingle civics
with aoc yeah to make sure that
we take
back all three chambers is that
is that
should we and if we work our
butts off
to make sure that we take back
all three
chambers of Congress rather
than all
three chambers of government the
presidency the Senate and the
House in
2020 we can't start working in
2020 okay
first of all there's something
wrong
with your clips cuz I don't
know what's
happening with the beginning
but it's
like that was a mistake
yeah that's happened a lot
lately no it
happened I'll tell you what it
is if you
want to know yes when you start
app I'm
pulling clips from the from the
internet
as opposed to author the over
quarter
that used to do it because it's
more
efficient and it's not every
clip but
everyone's on that clip which
should
have been cut the beginning
part that
you're bitching about should
have been
cut out by me when I did the
Edit on the
final clip and you wouldn't
have said
anything there's some stupid
reason I
exploited the entire audio file
instead
of just to select it so that
was my
fault yeah but it okay Ron I
thought
your toy I know what you're
talking
about when you're talking about
because
I have left it in on a number
of Clips
you guys I said yeah okay I
hear it all
the time do you hear it
well let's just play a clip and
see if
it's on there
all right no no let's not let's
let's
deconstruct what she just said
so people
understand what she just said
so people
she says all let's just let's
just take
it step by step
I want our non Americans and
many
Americans themselves to
understand why
this is so ridiculous coming
from
someone who is in the House of
Representatives make sure that
we take
back all three chambers is that
is that
should we and if we work our
butts off
to make sure that we take back
all three
chambers of Congress okay so
she starts
out by saying all three
chambers of
Congress you can say Congress
not the
Congress but you say Congress
which is
made up of the House of
Representatives
and the Senate I do not believe
there's
a third chamber of Congress
there's yes there is there is a
bathroom
commerce is down there in the
basement
so now she corrects herself and
she
correctly says I mean it's
really the
three branches of government
but she
tries to she tries to make it
right by
saying the three chambers of
government
I'll give her that
and the three I've always
learned
branches of government which is
the
judicial the legislative which
is where
she is and the executive those
are the
three this is something we
learn when
were seven years seven eight
years old
here we go you learn it real
early or
just used to there were you
used to I
don't think it's being taught
she
doesn't ever learned it Chris
all three
chambers of government the
presidency
the Senate and the house in
2020 she
just kind of forgot she made
the Senate
and the House of Representatives
two of the branches and just
left out
the one she should be bitching
out the
boast which is judicial
yes and she leaves this stuff
up too
which i think is brave but this
is going
to be a long as tell us he's
not gonna
that let this continue I'm
Shelley
they're gonna have a talk to
her or
something she's gonna you know
tell her
to stop this young lady has a
presidential future is what I'm
gonna
tell you right now this person
lives
have fun for the no agenda show
know
this kind of person has an
absolute
chance to become president
not because of this what she
said just
the whole everything everything
about
her people love her love her
and when is
so easy to ridicule she has
zero chance
of getting any further than
she's gotten
okay she is a laughing stock
beef that's
what they said about Donald
Trump yes
they did so all you need is the
media
which who are not covering her
so that's
you know once that happens she
has a
real good shot she has a real
remember
people say well like this davin
Eddie
wants to run for president or
now who's
the latest guy this Bloomberg
he's gonna
run for president Bloomberg he
has
bloomed Bloomberg yeah and he
is you
know the difference between two
celebrity against a celebrity
running
for president if you take a
look who how
many celebrities have been
present we
have Reagan mm-hmm we've had
Eisenhower
he was a celebrity oh yeah of
course he
was he was a celebrity yeah I
think yeah
you have Trump all these guys
had a an
enormous amount of public
profile yeah
before they ever became
president mhm
in fact Reagan had as much
before he
became governor of California
which he
is had be out I think out shown
Trump by
quite a bit because he was
doing you
know the 60 mule train thing he
was
doing these speeches he had a
TV show he
was in the movies for years and
years
and years and then he became he
was a
head of the Screen Actors Guild
is a
former doubt yeah that's right
that's
right he's former Democrat and
Republican he's former Democrat
and
by today's standards which is
very
different today's media
landscape is not
the same I would say AOC
Alexandria
Ocasio Cortez is a big-time
celebrity
for Democrats big-time big-time
Jen
briny did you who has a level
head on
her shoulders whoo-hoo dice who
if she
heard these words come out of
anyone
else's mouth including a
Democrat she
would ridicule them because she
does
congressional dish well how
government
works she knows her civics she
goes on
Twitter and says I love the
girl Wow love this girl so
that's the
past you know it's it does not
matter
what comes out of the mouth as
long as
it sounds good that's it's just
ridiculous sounds good that's
it's just
well that's murder what you're
saying is
ridiculous it's sadly now back
to the
celebrity thing Trump had this
you know
this TV show that was a big
head and he
was known forever I mean he's
been
always on Letterman he made a
lot of TV
appearances bragging about
himself
mostly but he was doing a lot
of work
Bloomberg you know does not
have this
profile he does in New York he
has zero
problems now he has no problem
Berg news
service now but when you see
him know
he's an annoying guy he's boring
glib and he's apparently very
short well
not to say anything bad about
people
that short this apparently
Bloomberg's
like 5 1 or something like that
oh my
gosh 5 1 or something like that
oh my
petite now but your point yeah
I think
your point is is well-made but
in
today's world you don't have to
be a
celebrity for very long you
can't stay a
celebrity for very long if
you're an AOC
because if you wears thin you're
basically an idiot
she is not a bright girl she
has got big
eyes and a nice smile and she's
photogenic telegenic and she's
excitable
yeah telegenic and she's
excitable
so she's kind of you know
attractive to
to the camera and people will
follow her
just like they follow other
people on
Instagram they will follow her
and that
will love her for it and they
will vote
for her when PewDiePie runs for
president then you're talking
alright look we don't have to
agree I
think she is a definite
candidate for
presidency in our lifetime she
is a
celebrity and she is a
modern-day
celebrity and as long as she
has an
Instagram account will remain a
celebrity and people will love
her for
it it's the it's the political
version
of the Kardashians
it works
just that's just my opinion
yeah I don't
think it's compiling thing is
comparable
to previous job because she
went door to
pretty much door to door
condemning the
other guy was never even in the
neighborhood and it didn't get
take long
for her to win that's not gonna
work
yeah look I see the grand bull
crap see
the thing is I respect what
you're
saying you just can't say okay
maybe
you're right you say you know I
can't
because you're not right
million times
don't give me that you've heard
me say
well yeah you could be right as
soon as
you make a good point
no when you're not is when it's
not even
possible when you're not is
when it's not even
not gonna give you the benefit
of the
doubt gonna give you the
benefit of the
idiot I will just remind you
I'll go
back and I'll get the tape
because we
have actual reel-to-reel tape
of this
show and I will I will play you
the
segment where I said Donald
Trump is
going to become president and
you save
now to become president and you
save
dull cake you find that I'll be
stunned
you got it moving on I would
like to
thank you for your courage and
say in
the morning to you John see you
and the
C stands for can't be president
Dvorak
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the morning
I did I said thank you and I
did all the
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we're in
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way specifically sending me
you're not
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a Rhodes
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she
plots her course within the
Liberal
Party her course within the
Liberal
if Trudeau and the Liberals go
down in
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Joe read that piece I sent you
I think
it's from 1983 New York Times
are to go
talking about the CIA and how
they
recruit out of college and
where they
recruit and has all the
colleges listed
hmm was it recent no yeah it
was recent
was in the last few days less
well not
yesterday but mm-hmm
anyway they have all these
colleges
listed no I would have
remembered I
haven't seen it yet no yeah
well go find
it and read it because it's
really good
for our spot to spook I think
the name
of the oh yes no I did see it
come in
but I we didn't tell everybody
that I
spent almost two hours this
morning just
trying to get Skype started on
my
machine so and then it started
by it
it's that was the scariest part
yeah
this is welcome to Windows you
should
tell that story because not the
whole
story but just a face of short
stories
that okay I've had it I've had
it you
threw your arms up in the air
and you
said I'm gonna have to use the
Amsterdam
a rig which is just a smaller
version of
what he's got and then as he
started
hooking up the other machine
got jealous
wait you're not gonna make that
little
HP laptop compete with me mr.
big Dell
desktop no there but it's a
it's a cuz
I'm not the only one with this
problem
Skype has for some reason
people have an
issue where you start it and it
crashes
immediately where you start it
and it crashes
now I've had issues with Skype
before I
left we're just it crashed
remember
during the show and then it I
couldn't
get it some battlin and then
the mobile
rig exhibited the same behavior
in
Amsterdam I was able to
circumvent it by
disconnecting all USB audio
devices then
starting it up then setting the
devices
and this morning I only started
this
computer been off all week
there was no update applied
that that at
least didn't tell me any update
was
applied just started up normal
and Skype
would not start and I spent you
know I
was like updating video drivers
could it
be this could it be that and
then I
called you and I I mean listen
when I
call John and say I need
Windows help
you know it's
bad it's bad it's really bad
and so the
ultimate advice was a was just
to run
the mobile Rick yeah and the man
absolutely as I was turning on
the
mobile rig plugging everything
in to
that all of a sudden Skype came
back
though well I knew this was
gonna happen
because you were cussing out
the Machine
and these machines never
sensitive
they're very sensitive you have
to be
nice to them I guess you're
right it's
like a car sensitive very
sensitive
I bought a lemon you know they
sell to
somebody else things fine it's
not limit
at all so lemon for you since
we talked
about Bloomberg I do want to
and since
that they mentioned that one of
the
schools that was mentioned in
that
article along with Georgetown
and all
these major you got to read
this article
it's very funny but there's one
of the
school's mentioned is Johns
Hopkins as a
place where a lot of recruiting
is done
mmm-hmm and so I read what got
me into
this note that finding that
article was
this was this piece here was
Bloomberg
giving all this money to Johns
Hopkins
for some reason he yesterday did
something extraordinary he gave
1.8
billion dollars to his alma
mater Johns
Hopkins and he said that he did
it for a
scholarship funds for financial
aid for
people of low or middle income
who he
doesn't want them to be saddled
with
student loans after college as
so many
people are and this means that
they will
sort of forever be able to give
financial aid for a long long
time to
their students so that's a
wonderful
altruistic move is he running
for
president in 2020 or what I
think he is
running I think this particular
particular gift follows a
pattern he has
given hundreds of millions of
dollars
you can't go on that campus and
look in
any direction and not see a
building
that you know it's the
Bloomberg Center
for this the woman which is all
which is
all great I think this one's a
little
bit different because it goes
to the
idea that education should be
available
to everyone I think the really
interesting thing about
Bloomberg though
is not education it's his big
issue is
climate change and there hasn't
been a
politician that they've been
able to
turn climate change into a
successful
political victory
I mean Al Gore came close and a
lot of
what he did came after the
election but
I think that
what you're gonna see him move
forward
on cuz that's what he believes
oh well
he'll never never win with that
that's dumb yeah that's what
he's doing
you know there was the evening
before I
left there was a big talk show
in the
Netherlands that nightly talk
show on
the public broadcaster and I
told you
these politicians in the EU are
all just
getting jiggy with it because
of the
IPCC report and this main the
the
minister of infrastructure in
the
Netherlands she has I don't
know if
they've actually passed this
yet but
she's saying we need six
hundred million
euros to save us from dying
from climate
change I'm paraphrasing but
it's not far
off and so she's in this talk
show and
people like oh yes and we have
to do all
this for oh because you know
yeah you
never know what's happening
that's
either too much water not
enough water
we have to sit would not get our
children were gonna die and
there's this
older guy sitting across the
table and
he just rips in joy says
there's a
hospital that went bankrupt and
people
you know we're wheeled out you
know on
the streets to find other
hospitals and
you want to give 600 million to
this
bullcrap it was so beautiful to
watch
and you've got because people
are going
Walsh it that guy's kind of
right you
know it's like all you're
complaining
about we know the future and
this
climate change but we got people
actually with IVs you know
strapped to
their Gurney's on the streets
trying to
figure out which hospital to be
wheeled
to they're loving it but I
don't think
the public will eat it I don't
think
Bloomberg can get far with it
either
it's just not a winning strategy
it's just that hasn't worked
out a thing
for anybody you know well we'll
see how
it goes he's not gonna get past
the
debates cuz he's just not he's
kidding
I don't think I've ever seen
the guys
smile yes dower he's gonna have
to stand
on at least two Apple boxes oh
yeah you
know you really don't like him
being
that short hmm no I don't care
about it
being there so this was a
running gag
that Letterman used to use oh I
didn't
realize this
oh yeah the Letterman used to
go on and
on about how short he wasn't he
would
then he put his arm out you
know like
how tall he wasn't any lower it
lower it
lower it oh just keep doing
this he keep
writing a Bloomberg height yeah
of
course you won't do now I think
Letterman really got out of of
the TV
business the the evening talk
show
business right on time because
the
political politically uncorrect
nature
of him I think would have heard
him
eventually him I think would
have heard him
yeah probably I don't think he
was Renee
love them yo so of course it is
but I
just don't know if I don't I
don't think
he would have been able to do
the same
stuff would have been able to
do the same
hell it's all right yeah it's
all it I'm
happy to report it's the same
in in the
Netherlands it's the same in
the United
Kingdom it's all so it's just
you know
it's a little different but
it's all
your racist you hate women you
hate Jews
you hate you know whatever it is
everyone's yelling everyone's
just
yelling at each other were at
the end of
civilization with the end I'm
telling
you the same things acting was
going on
in the 20s of course it's just
you know
but this is not we have
Twitter's it's
different it's never different
now it's
different this is where we
fundamentally
disagree on things yeah big
time yeah we
do now this is something that we
probably agree on here's Mike
Lee and I
got it turned on to this speech
he's
give a speech at he's the
wasn't Mike
Utah oh okay all right yes I
got turned
on to the speeches give a
speech to the
Federalist Society was people
are
telling us win who was Mike Lee
Mike Lee
you know him no but I'm asking
for the
other people who happen to be
eavesdropping on the
conversation he's
the senator from Utah
ah and he's a rat he's a very
conservative he was a never
Trump er I
believe the guy who wanted to
RIS is the
ex-cia was that a different guy
no no that's the guy who tried
to run it
for Jimmy right yeah yeah okay
and he
was running you'd been running
against
Romney because Mike Lee is not
in this
cycle okay so they said Mike Lee
predicts a civil war because of
a bunch
of things and I looked at and
he didn't
you know this was some
hysterical
headline and so I went and
listened to
the whole speech and it was
bull crap
the headline was a lie but I
got this
one clip out of here that I
thought was
pretty good all right Mike
sorry this is
Mike Lee talking about the
economy our
economy is at full employment
and it's
growing fast enough to distract
us at
least temporarily from our 21
trillion
dollar national debt and our
800 billion
dollar annual deficit perhaps it
shouldn't be enough but for the
time
being it is but my big concern
is what
happens when the next bubble
bursts
when the next recession hits
when the
multitrillion-dollar debts
accrued by
state local pension funds come
due what
happens when next we face a
genuine
international crisis what
happens when
Treasury yield rates return to
their
historic average and we see our
national
debt service payments go from
where they
are today which is about 300
billion
dollars a year which is not
that much
higher than they were 20 years
ago
when our national debt was what
1/7 of
its current size to where
they'll go
within a couple of years after
Treasury
yield rates return to their
historical
average which will be around a
trillion
dollars a year
yeah we're just waiting for the
catalyst
aren't we I mean I'm pretty
convinced
that it's gonna happen very soon
yeah we're waiting for the
catalyst and
it's always gonna be in this
never the
same so you can't look you use
history
doesn't work with the market
and you
don't and this always crashes
slightly
different ways you might miss
well death
is what right Horowitz and I
kind of
thing well cold on
fundamentally the
things that are really weird
right now
is we have oil going down
rapidly but
natural gas spiking up which is
is weird
but it is weird but the natural
gas has
been in a depression probably
for about
a decade so it's going up under
any
service has got to be miss is
all
manipulated I mean the the
price of oil
definitely manipulated but then
who's
manipulating the natural gas I
mean is
that look here's bottom line I
think
Trump is out of his depth I
don't think
he can bring this economy I
don't think
he's got the momentum anymore
that he
had it was really running on
pure
adrenaline I mean just
fundamentally I
know I can't I can't see it I
really
can't believe that it's
sustainable you
no of course nobody and I was
said said
that five years ago and agree
still
going well yeah but I'm not
like the guy
I'm reminded of these guys
there's a
bunch of locals or a lot of
them were
writers and it became other
things since
you know public relations guys
but the
when there was the the boom not
the
dot-com boom but the real
estate boom
from probably 85 to like nine
2007 when
it collapsed there were guys
brought in
way early going off this real
estate
prices are too high it's gonna
pop the
bubbles gonna pop and puns
gonna pop
it's gonna pop and then they
during that
oh that almost a decade of
saying the
bubble is gonna pop if any one
of them
would have bought any piece of
property
they'd be millionaires but they
kept
saying it's gonna pop is gonna
pop it
yeah everything pops eventually
and it
did pop and now it's recovered
but
actually beyond where it was at
least in
the some parts of the country
which were
a lot of boom areas and you
know I don't
know what's gonna pop again or
not but
you can't necessarily stay out
yeah but
so but you're looking purely a
real
estate I think it might be
multiplication at the market
I'm good at
the market more in real estate
I'm just
saying reasons just
exemplifying sure
this mentality where you just
gonna pop
what's gonna pop it's gonna pop
and
meanwhile it's going up and up
and up
and you could have made some
money if
you've just been in and got out
if you
were nimble which important
unfortunately people I take did
lot of
this back what I just said
because
unless you're with real estate
it's not
so much of a problem cuz it
doesn't move
that much but with the stock
market
unless you're in it daily
you know you're a day trader
something
you can't get out fast enough
you wake
up you go to work you come home
in the
markets crash so that's just a
small
percentage of the population I
mean yes
of course you can make money
speculating
on stuff but the the previous
the
economic collapse you know that
was it
was just such a perfect storm
you know
people could not pay their
mortgages and
that just dominoed all the way
through
until we just had to create all
this you
know fake money and give it to
the bank
so that they could be good
again we put
all the bad stuff somewhere
else who
just did that some other
country just
did that
I think it's Greece yeah Greece
just
created a new special purpose
vehicle
which has all the harm want
hallmarks of
a junker you know it's got no
wheels
doesn't go anywhere and they
just it's
it's an accounting trick just I
just put
the bad stuff in there and
didn't we do
the exact same thing
kinda yeah so it would have to
be
something like that now if it's
slowed
by a thousand cuts like DHT
unplug says
I think that's one hand it's
not being
able to pay student loans
that's pretty
big to pay student loans that's
pretty
where's what 1.5 trillion
that's pretty
big but that's the slow process
of
people not paying back it's not
really
like you know you you run out
of money
and you go bankrupt now you're
in school
you're still just you get them
you still
get your your loaned not paying
back
your loan while you're getting
it I
understand but I'm saying the
people who
are supposed to pay it back or
hook or
crook are paying it back
since you can't get out of it
so yeah so
where is Jim you know I think
health
care has got to be the one
that's that's
what's bankrupting people well
I mean I
think doesn't I don't think it
well
maybe it could be it's
bankrupting me
well it's possible but it seems
to be
yummy if you remember the 2007
and a
half this isn't boring people
the 2007
18 remember that letters of
credit
weren't being accepted yes yes
holes
it's foreboding before that
crash yeah
there wasn't there were more
signals I
agree and there's not anything
like that
going on which but then again
before the
29 crash I've looked at it
enough I
think I might be wrong
there wasn't anything or just
crash it
happened and then every it
bounced right
back but it didn't do it then
it just
drifted to the bottom but when
it
happened there was all these
remember I
got the front pages of all
these papers
Oh the front pages of all these
papers
Giannini and a head of the Bank
of
America this is just bullcrap
there's no
reason this is ridiculous that
this
happened there where is sound
financial
condition every banker in the
world kept
saying this and it was on the
front page
of all the papers don't worry
about it
we're in sound financial
condition
everything's fine
well I already know what what
the what
the history books will look
like when we
look back on the huge crash of
let's
just say 2020 just to make it
and to
make it a fun number we look
back at the
historic crash and the deepest
depression of all depressions
ever
you'll see hipsters you know
with ratted
tattered clothing dragging a
half-dead
dog behind him and then they'll
just be
nothing but piles of East
Cooter's and
other dhoklas bikes everywhere
that no
one can afford to use and they
in the
companies all went bankrupt and
can't
afford to pick them up exactly
that's
what it's going to look like
it'll be the best of times in
the worst
of times hey but at least we
can get
somewhere cheap on a scooter if
the
scooter still work yes
didn't find that boring
actually I'd I
enjoy thinking about those
things well I
know I don't enjoy what it
could be but
thinking through it well
luckily they're
talking about people trying to
copy
their how we do business places
Canadian
this from the CBC pair like
Canada is
going to into the whole because
of us
but it wasn't all about
economics
tonight we'll look at the
politics
involved the brakes to help
some media
companies and we'll ask the
finance
minister well it's all going to
cost so
much because one thing is
certain Canada
will be going deeper in the red
for
years to come the following
canonic
state will be focused on things
like
competitiveness and the focus
on drying
the benefit from the great
trade deals
we've been signing and moving
forward on
over the past years to do this
the
Liberals have come up with more
than 16
billion dollars in new
investments and
tax breaks for businesses but
that will
mean continued deficits
remember that
promise to balance things by
next year
well there is no balanced
budget for the
foreseeable future all of this
is
essentially a response to an
unpredicted
unpredictable rather US
administration
one with protectionist impulses
low
corporate taxes and very deep
pockets as
David Cochran explains it's
clear the
Trudeau government has a lot
riding on
the outcome like everything
these days
bill Moore knows fiscal update
is a
response to President Donald
Trump one
series of measures to respond
to us tax
cuts to encourage businesses to
invest
in their own growth to create
more good
well-paying jobs others to
steer Canada
away from its dependence on the
US
market just because we share a
trade
agreement with the United
States doesn't
mean we'll always agree with
their
approach those are the goals
here's how
the Liberals want to get there
to stay
competitive with the US there
are
billions in tax cuts for
businesses to
help them expand and buy
equipment over
the next five years a 100
percent
write-off for manufacturing and
processing equipment a 100
percent
write-off for clean tech
investment
tripling the write-off for all
other
business investments there's
also more
than a billion dollars to
diversify
trade a billion dollars to
diversify
including cash to boost roads
rails and
ports to get goods to Asia and
Europe
but the Conservatives warned
this all
comes with a big cost they are
putting
our future in a reckless state
of danger
by spending our tomorrow on
there today
hmm our tomorrow now the funny
thing
about this is the little thing
they
slipped in which I thought was
unique I
didn't realize how subsidized
the media
is in Canada oh yeah
and the CBC I guess gets over
it almost
a billion and a half dollars a
year
which is a nice operating
budget you
know the BBC is multiple
billions
multiple billions but do
parently gonna
go overboard and give almost a
billion
to just just any old media
company play
giving money to the media hey
can we get
in on this I was covering the
podcast to
Canada in an age when
journalists around
the world are being accused of
producing
fake news the Trudeau
government has
decided to invest in local news
nearly
600 million dollars over the
next five
years to support media outlets
struggling with dwindling
revenues it
includes a 15 percent tax
credit to
encourage Canadians to
subscribe to
digital news media and giving
charitable
status to nonprofit news
outlets to help
them fundraise but perhaps the
most
important measure a new tax
credit to
help cover the labor cost of
producing
original news content locally
Wow you
know the rebel you know them
yeah the
rebel media this is a link from
the
troll room but I open it up
Justin
Trudeau is buying Canadian
media they
say is buying Canadian media
they
a key quest a key question that
renewables not getting any of
the money
no a key well they say we're
not for
sale now that's the debts their
stance
so you're not getting any of
the money
well they're saying they don't
want it a
key question that remains
unanswered for
now is which organizations will
be
eligible for the new measures
and which
ones will be excluded I think
you're
right the government said the
package
will aim to help quote trusted
news
organizations yes let me
translate that
into plain English there's an
election
next year and if you're a
journalist who
wants in on Trudeau's slush
fund he has
to know he can trust you so no
tough
questions for two doors cabinet
no
embarrassing investigations
you must demonize any Trudeau
critics as
bigoted homophobic or
Islamophobic and
you have to promote Trudeau's
policies
on everything from the carbon
tax to
open border mass immigration so
here
would be a fun test it wouldn't
be too
hard for us to do just a little
podcast
a weekly one where we pretty
much do the
same stuff except we add a and
then we
just and then we just do this
we just
need two more oh yeah we just
say hey to
those great a and then we'll
say stuff
like man I can't believe anyone
wants to
investigate them you can trust
the guy a
we just do that and then maybe
we will
get some money I think this is
a plan
however on the other side what's
interesting if this would ever
come our
way and we've and people never
really
catch these explanations we do
them all
the time why we are not a 501 C
3
nonprofit organization there's
a number
of reasons for it yeah one
which you
recently explained on the grime
Erica
show which people should go
listen to is
one of the most recent episodes
but also
three one three if we signed up
for that
we have to have a charter and
we have to
stick to it and basically the
government
would have some elements of
control over
us correct yeah absolutely so
you don't want there's a lot
more
paperwork and you got the IRS
on your
back and there well yes I mean
that's
what I'm saying so they can say
well we
don't think you're really doing
the
you're not really you know
independent
or whatever you they could just
say oh
you seem too one-sided so sorry
that
can't have that yet Trump
apologist
can't have no money for that no
but I
did I read decry America got D
platformed from PayPal no I
didn't hear
that I think there was why
would they
ever do that would I think
they're
pretty I love it I think I
think I think
that I think it happened hold
on a
second I don't think so okay
well you
don't think you know have my
opinions in
very high regard a let's see
they were suspended yes they
were for
what okay
I had they took after it come
here it is
they posted a screenshot you
can no
longer do business with PayPal
after a
review we decided to
permanently limit
your account as we found
potential risk
associated with it risk or we
we will
hold put a hold I guess they
had a 180
day hold on the money to jeez
yeah I've
heard that
and now I don't know if they're
back or
not now I don't know if they're
back or
well maybe they are back now
that
definitely was some problem
now I could have been who knows
what but
you know this is part of what I
think is
very well it's interesting
interesting
times to live in when you have
a lot of
services and a lot of
fundamental things
that you that we come to rely
on are
technology-based so the most
recent one
is air B&B actually have a clip
let me
just share that so we can
listen to it
Airbnb is going to remove from
its
listings all homes in Israeli
settlements in the occupied
West Bank
the company says it's made the
decision
because settlements are at the
core of
the dispute between Israelis and
Palestinians Palestinians have
welcomed
the decision
Israel has called it shameful
and
threatened legal action now
whether you
agree with it or not is
completely
irrelevant if you have a house
that you
kind of count on the income for
you know
from air B&B and you they just
universally decide we're deep
platforming you because you
you're the
wrong person you live in the
wrong place
or whatever their reason is
which is
well within their complete
right to do
that yeah are we ready to do
that yes so
you got to be careful how much
you rely
on this stuff well this is the
same
thing this is a fractal mm-hmm
of
microservices architecture yeah
except
this is the consumer side the
consumer
size is just a de facto goes
out yes out
yeah no it's not you know it's
it's just
a big version of the small
problem yeah
and it's just it's just a huge
problem
and you can mean this i think
alex jones
by being did the jerk that he
is and
this in this regard yeah he
wanted i'm
totally convinced that he
pushed the
envelope just to get the place
to show
what the problem was yes i
agree i think
he did too yeah because he
actually
[Music] did too yeah because he
actually
he was he called me and said
don't come
on the show anymore
I tell you that yeah yeah was
this is a
long time ago not a long time
when I
would the last time I cancelled
yeah I
said as I don't want to go on
the show I
don't want you coming on the
show
because they're gonna go after
your
money that's what he literally
said
really yeah yeah
he said don't know it's
probably nice of
him to keep you from coming on
the show
of course it was the only show
once or
twice right yeah but he wanted
me to
come on the show I think I can't
remember what it was for with
the last
substitution when he was oh yes
you're
right you're right the
substitute you
remember better than I do
yes and I was like well and I
said you
really shouldn't come on the
show
because I was talking to his
producer
and then he calls me said no no
they're
gonna go after you dude don't
do it it's
not what you don't want it and
I think
he yes I think he's yeah he
probably
does do that on purpose for him
for
making a point and you gotta
appreciate
that I do I mean it doesn't
help him or
anybody else but yeah I mean
these
payment systems
now we're gonna see this it's
it's an
issue Bitcoin baby I hate to
say hey
how's that Bitcoin doing holy
crap
people must be jumping out of
windows
about now well I feel sorry for
the
people last Thanksgiving that
word know
was going up too it was
probably 15,000
Thanksgiving last year wasn't
it it was
I was on the year that
according I think
was Horowitz you had this
anecdote about
all these youngins you know
that Bitcoin
net balls going into their
Thanksgiving
dinner but they're both coin
get them
all get them all jacked up all
the old
horse jacked up about Bitcoin
and then
they distinct givings gonna be
a little
different you broke me son I
took your
advice and now I'm broke being
your mom
or living in the shelter
so what is it now it is now 45
25 it was
around 6 - the last time I me I
was
around 65 two weeks ago here's
my
favorite response
let me see was it really buddy
I think
you're right it was yeah it was
near
Christmas time you're right
that's when
I went up to 18,000 most 20,000
here's
the response I like the best
hey one
bitcoin is still worth one
Bitcoin it's
my favorite it's my favorite
response
because it's true if you use it
purely
as a transmission mechanism and
you're
in and out yeah it's fantastic
so much
more efficient than banking
well I know
but the efficiency part it's
just very
efficient you're gonna argue
that then
you can send money within 20
minutes to
someone guaranteed through
Bitcoin
versus three days rigmarole
with banks
but money is pretty efficient
and not
internationally doesn't work
internationally hmm could be no
it is so
I know because I have a
daughter and we
transfer money usually the
wrong way
it's usually the wrong way from
me to
her that's usually the bad the
bad
transfer oh yes miss you're
financing
terrorism yeah it's it's so yes
it's a
very efficient payment network
we're not for buying stuff but
for just
transferring money I think it's
fantastic money I think it's
apparently in Canada they also
have a
problem with depression
not the depression which is
what we're
talking about we're switching
back to
depression mm-hmm so the
Canadians I get
a kick out of this I'm not
gonna do this
Canadian thing forever
but I got kind of a kick out of
some of
these stories I want you to
play these
clips about depression and play
there
this one just another word for
lobotomy
close to a million Canadians
live with
depression that actually resists
treatment shock therapy has
long been
considered an effective
approach but it
can come obviously with serious
side
effects so doctors are
exploring less
invasive treatments that go
straight to
the source of the problem Cass
brucy
explains it's hard to beat some
quality
time with your son you can
throw it a
little bit harder at me for sky
says
love it's a welcome break look
at your
target for the past several
years she
struggled with debilitating
depression I
don't even know how to explain
it
because it's not angering it's
it's
frustrating SAS love has what's
known as
treatment resistant depression
sorry
interference has made you the
president
disorder which has been chronic
going on
for over seven years and she
has either
failed to respond or fail to
tolerate a
number of antidepressant
treatments so
earlier this year SAS law tried
something different
agreeing to be part of a study
at
Sunnybrook Hospital in Toronto
that uses
a non-invasive approach to
treating this
kind of depression with her
head shaved
and fitted with a metallic
headgear SAS
love was placed in an MRI
once inside doctors then used
ultrasound
beams to heat and disrupt the
precise
part of the brain that causes
depression
lack of it as an adjustment to
the
circuits of the brain and so
the MRI
guided focus ultrasound goes
directly to
that circuit it makes a cut or
a lesion
in that circuit and stops it to
firing
when it shouldn't be firing
holy crap is
that permanent ah oh my god
clip of the
day a lobotomy an actual
CyberKnife
modern lobotomy yes well let's
go to the
next Wow
this is another one this is
another
another word for electroshock
therapy
other ways to treat the illness
what you
just heard was a very high
frequency
magnetic pulse one of those is
a brain
stimulation treatment but uses
magnets
instead of electricity magnetic
seizure
therapy was really evolved out
of this
idea that producing a seizure
for
therapeutic purposes is very
effective
in depression
yeah just treating myself
bottome they said it's
non-invasive
non-invasive thus it's good
because it
just penetrated through your
skull with
was it infrared laser what the
hell is
your sonic sonic yeah oh that's
non-invasive oh I guess
technically what
is the definition of in-phase
it doesn't
leave a hole I guess just a
burglars
leave a hole you know you're
trapped now
this is to me is the classic
example of
calling one thing something
else to make
it sound great now I want to
just throw
this in but you I was looking
into the
history of vasectomies not
recently but
some time ago when I was doing
my
vasectomy material and if you
look into
the history of vasectomies
vasectomies
work were called the were used
as a
substitute for uh for uh what is
happening you cut the balls off
it's
called a eunuch no you cut the
balls off
as a name for that yeah castrate
castration so apparently in the
20s or I
think during our era where
we're all in
the dull these eugenics and all
the
stuff Americans in particular
we were
weird castrating people
especially I
think a lot of blacks and a lot
of other
people in the south mostly they
would
they get into prison to say
well you're
chasing around little boys and
so we're
gonna wasn't this part of the
eugenics
Society of America's program
didn't they
do that as well they may have
yeah maybe
yeah so what would happen
though was it
when they were castrating
people you
know they've knocked them out
and then
they cut the nuts off and then
the guys
and then they throw a
friendsgiving take
the nuts and cook them into
really so
then they the guys apparently
were
shocked by this and they come
in and
track down the doctor who cut
their nuts
off and kill him and this is
becoming a
real problem for if you're a
doctor
so one doctor who's I don't
have the
details cuz I don't have this
paperwork
in front of me but there's a
very famous
doctor who invented the
vasectomy as a
substitute for castration
because it did
the exact same things I did
call him the
guy down at did all these
things that
were this essentially was a
castration
but with but it was done inside
the
balls inside the nut sack it's
so the
guy wouldn't notice I could
look round
I'm still good and so he was
happy
camper he wouldn't go kill the
doctor
which he used to do so I'm so my
commentary about people getting
themselves castrated by getting
a
vasectomy I don't think is
completely
out of out of bounds No
I'm yes okay always I don't
spend too
much time on the vasectomy
stuff and
castration I'm still at the
lobotomy
stage and that this is seen to
be like
some breakthrough this is not a
breakthrough you need to run
away from
this and is this paid for by
the great
Canadian health insurance yeah
well I
have a companion story to that
not as
funny but we do have some
issues a
well-known drug thought to
reduce PTSD
symptoms and suicidal thoughts
could
actually make them worse
a new study tracked patients
who took
prazosin for eight weeks and
found the
drug worsened nightmares and
didn't do
much to lessen suicidal
thoughts two of
the participants had to undergo
emergency inpatient psychiatric
care
though no one attempted suicide
during
the study the results back up a
study
from earlier this year that
also showed
prazosin brought on new or
worsened
suicidal thoughts in 8% of
military
veterans suffering from PTSD
how about
that some kind of big farm of
thing that
is making it worse instead of
better
surprising making it worse
instead of better
yeah I'm stunned maybe they
should how
do you find information like
that maybe
they should go over to Canada
Navia and
get you one what's the name of
that
procedure I don't know oh come
on
what didn't mention it in the
clip I
don't remember them mentioning
it yeah I
want to listen to it a million
Canadians
live with depression that
actually
resists treatment right a shock
therapy
has long been considered an
effective
approach but you can come
obviously with
serious side effects so doctors
are
exploring less invasive shock
therapy
still really a thing people use
shock
therapy still well it in Canada
they're
using it using magnets too
cause you
know she's a jolt but that
still happens
today shock therapy I believe
it does
treatments that go straight to
the
source of the problem Kaspar she
explains it's hard to beat some
quality
time with your son you can
throw it a
little bit harder at me I'm
really
appreciating the whole the
whole clip
now the whole the whole clip
you know throwing a ball with
your son
back and forth just let us do
this
non-invasive thing but this is
almost
the native ad for this
procedure sky's a
sloth it's a welcome break look
at your
target for the past several
years she
struggled with debilitating
depression I
don't even know how to explain
it
because it's not angering it's
it's
frustrating like Trump syndrome
she
sounds very very even-keeled
here though
flop look at her she's totally
in a
candidate for Trump syndrome
okay
Trump derangement syndrome you
mean TN
yes it's it's frustrating SAS
love has
what's known as treatment
resistant
depression treatment treatment
resistant
depression treatment treatment
resistant
which means their shit doesn't
work on
her means their shit doesn't
work on
mint resistant so it's TRD sorry
interference has made you the
president
disorder which has been chronic
going on
for over seven years
I wish stop a second
in the clip she's throwing a
ball back
and forth with her kid who
she's seen
saying look at the targets just
sing a
bunch of dumb stuff nobody does
when
they pick that sounds like her
kid is
her as a retard that's the
problem
throws the boys a little kid
and so she
throws the ball over his head
by mistake
and he's a sorry
interference he's a sorry
interfere lay mning a
non-existent
entity for her fuck up oh so is
like her
treatment-resistant depression
interfered I don't know what you
interfere but it seems like
she's one of
the blame wait we need some
disclaimers
for this treatment yep
invisible forces
may cause you to throw things
in weird
directions and she's either
failed to
respond or fail to tolerate a
number of
antidepressant treatments so
earlier
this year SAS law tried
something
different year SAS law tried
something
agreeing to be part of a study
at
Sunnybrook Hospital in Toronto
that uses
a non-invasive approach to
treating this
kind of depression I like how
they've
categorized treatment resistant
depression as as you know a
kind of
depression is that just just
you know
just I don't know okay
non-invasive
approach I'm writing this down
with her
head shaved and fitted with a
metallic
headgear sass love was placed
in an MRI
once inside doctors then used
ultrasound
beams to heat and disrupt the
precise
part of the brain that causes
depression
think of it as an adjustment to
the
circuits of the brain
adjustment to the
circuits of the brain well you
know this
is pioneering work
because you you couldn't you
can treat
anybody with stuff like this
and this is
we're going back to medieval
times so
the MRI guided focus ultrasound
goes
directly to that circuit it
makes a cut
or a lesion in that circuit and
stops it
through firing when it
shouldn't be fine
fantastic that's just fantastic
this is one of the the best
things I've
heard in weeks Wow
seriously I love this we're
going back
to medieval times rebranding it
rebranding it
and were just cutting people's
lobotomy
you know we're giving them
lobotomies
what exactly do you cut out
with a
lobotomy he cut the frontal
lobe yeah
Wow he cut the frontal lobe yeah
yeah but they play it all you
know I'm
surprised there wasn't some
nice music
in the back I mean I think I
might maybe
you obsessed with this now I
really got
into this come on this is crazy
for
something I did not expect well
maybe
I'm just old-fashioned but the
the whole
lobotomy thing I mean didn't we
kind of
get rid of that yeah it was
actually
faddish for a while in recent
in recent
history how long ago were
lobotomies
performed in many they were
performed
into the 50s ha
but isn't don't you usually
then become
like kind of docile and very
docile very
quiet yeah yeah it's a solution
it's a
it's a solution it's the it's
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Obama had a
big conference a big big whoo
how the
Obama Foundation oh yeah here
he goes
you saw this now but here's the
Bob AMA
going in the directions
following in the footsteps of
Bill yeah
yes he does well you might make
some
money on it now the Daily Mail
interestingly had this big
headline
saying Obama says Trump has
mommy issues
so I go and I listen to their
little
clip there that they've clipped
out of
context it was not at all about
Trump
but it was kind of funny it was
about
climate change and about all of
us I
mean I didn't take it as a dig
at Trump
but that's what the Daily Mail
thought
but here's what he said when
emissions
by let's say 30% without any
yeah it's
not like we'd all have to go
back to
caves and you know live off
they don't
fire you know you could have
electricity
and smartphones and all that
stuff which
would buy us probably another
20 30
years for that technological
breakthrough that's necessary
the reason
we don't do it is on what are
you
talking about is there a
technological
breakthrough that's coming in
20 30
years or are we just gonna
start nuclear
now probably another 20 30
years for
that technological breakthrough
that's
necessary the reason we don't
do it is
because we are still confused
blind
shrouded with hate anger like
racism
mommy issues I mean he may
actually mean
Trump there to the insiders the
people
who are chuckling I guess but I
didn't
take it that way if he's just
any talk
about all of us we're all yeah
he's
basically reading Twitter you
know with
stuff and and and so if that's
the case
then the single most important
thing
that we have to invest in is
not all and
and and look I'm a huge
supporter of you
know science and technological
research
and social science and you know
evidence
based learning and all that
good stuff
I'm learning and all that good
stuff
stuff people call me Spock for
a reason
I believe hold on when did
people start
calling him Spock for a reason
nobody
calls him Spock he says he said
right
there people come he Spock for
a reason
dancing and all that good stuff
I'm
people call me Spock for a
reason I
believe in reason and logic and
all
these Enlightenment values I've
never
heard anyone call him Spock
because he's
so reasoned but really we have
to invest
in his people
we got to get people to figure
out how
they work together how do we
get people
to work together in a
cooperative
thoughtful constructive way
sucking in
Sun I played that clip just to
play the
next clip because what he's
saying here
is we we will all die we will
not make
it out of the climate change
hellhole or
we all are terminated by
excessive heat
with our iPhones because we can
keep
them our iPhones because we can
keep
because people don't work
together
because we haven't figured out
how to
work together
and then he goes in to tell you
a
history of his political career
in a
nutshell two minutes and and
and how he
worked together with everybody
or did he
here's the interesting thing
that
happens when you're president
or when
you go through the experience
of being
president I'm not sure why
that's funny
he said here's what the
interesting
thing about President or when
you go
being going through the
experience of
being president I'm not maybe
I'd miss
something in the context but
people
thought that was funny here's
the
interesting thing that happens
when
you're president or when you go
through
the experience of being
president why
was that funny what he's saying
I think
what this audience is thinking
he's
saying he's trying to say it
but he's
not saying it is that I was
president
Donald Trump just went through
the
experience he's not president
he's not
my president he's no good got
it got it
remember we're talking about
working
together with people you may
not agree
with working together to save
humanity
here's how he did it
you know you're a community
organizer
and you're struggling to try to
get
people to recognize each
other's common
interests and you know you're
trying to
get some project done in a small
community and you start
thinking okay
you know what
this Alderman's a knucklehead
and you
know they're resistant to doing
the
right thing and so I need to
get more
knowledge more power more
influence to
work together and I can really
have an
impact and so you go to the
state
legislature and you look around
and they
say well these jamokes
whoa whoa using our word use
your word
in particular well I say we are
because
I got it from Tina so maybe
it's a
Chicago thing jamokes
okay huh maybe could be so you
know
didn't work with people as a
community
organizer mostly there was dumb
yeah
because they're knuckleheads no
good so
I need more power
or more power so I went to
Senate and
then there's just Jamal and so
that I
can really have an impact and
so you go
to the state legislature and
the state
legislatures are around and
they say
well these jamokes maybe not
all of them
but I'm just saying you know
you you
start getting that sense of
this is just
like dealing with the alderman
right so
do something different so you
so then
you make sure there's a sex
scandal
including a celebrity so you
can get a
Senate seat free by getting
kicked out
all kinds of backroom dealings
so presto
your senator then you go to the
US
Senate and you're looking
around and
they're like oh man and then
when you're
president you're sitting in
these
international meetings and it's
like the
g20 and you've got all these
world
leaders it's the same people
that's how
you work together that's how we
save the
world by calling people names
that's
perfect what he thinks
everyone's an
idiot but him that's exactly
right and
you got all these world leaders
and it's
the same people
which is really interesting same
dynamics you know it's just
that there's
a bigger spotlight er there's a
bigger
stage but I'm only partly
joking about
that the the the nature of human
dynamics does not change from
level the
level you know which is why
I've been
quoted saying this
sometimes like okay what do you
think
he's about to quote which he's
been
quoted many times
apparently dubby bead boys most
of what
you need to learn you can
actually just
read dr. Seuss dr. Seuss
doctors because
you know there's the story the
snitches
and like people the snitches
have the
ones with stars think that the
better
than the ones who don't have
stars and
they got an attitude and then
you know
there's the Lorax who's trying
to tell
people it don't cut down the
trees
because then the fish are gonna
die
right I mean it's all pretty
much there
and the reason
perfect example of how working
together
can save us from the death of
climate
change with our iPhones we'll
be able to
keep them with some
technological
revolution in 30 years
I'm surprised dr. Seuss it well
we'll
talk about that in some other
show but
he did a lot of racist cartoons
in World
War two I miss Obama so I'm
watching
democracy now they have an
interview
this guy ronen bergman hmm and
he wrote
a book he's a bit Israeli
journalists of
investigative journalists he
wrote a
book about it's really
assassination oh
I thought Hamas no not about
alamos and
we have a new brand it's
hishaku hummus
anyway and I got a kick out of
this
bonehead question that was
asked him
because if you listen to this
question
the guy this is that they
Sanchez
whatever the guys name is on
democracy
now that guy writes for the
post I think
and he phrases this question as
I'm
listening to it I'm saying he's
describing our country and this
is
bonehead question on D n from
the UH
from the outside Israeli
intelligence
from the outset occupied a
shadowy realm
one adjacent to yet separate
from the
country's democratic
institutions the
activities of the intelligence
community
most of it shin Batum and the
Mossad
under the direct command of the
Prime
Minister took place without any
effective supervision by
Israel's
parliament the Knesset or by
any other
independent external bodies
what damage
has been done to the democratic
institutions of Israel as a
result of
this almost parallel situation
instead
of the civilian control in the
military
was almost as if the military
or the
intelligence community
controlled the
government community controlled
the
you mean like the
military-industrial
complex controls Trump or
adversely the
CIA controls Obama oh gee that
doesn't
happen everywhere I'm so
surprised
listen to this question now the
guy
nobody sees the irony of this
question
because this is essentially the
same as
when Ron Paul said the CIA took
over the
country in 62 of the
assassinated
Kennedy and
when did you have this shadow
government
which seems to be running on
its own
juices because you know they're
against
the president they have all
these issues
alright so but nobody sees the
irony or
the way he asked the question
is so the
guy even the guy Bergman when
he answers
the question doesn't quite see
it and he
kind of answers it straight
well a few
things first
Israel is a liberal democracy
in the
Middle East but Israel also
faces severe
threats and living under the
trauma of
the Holocaust and I think that
the the
the new Israelis the Jews who
lived in
Palestine hood those who came
from the
Holocaust and established the
State of
Israel they drew three main
lessons from
the Holocaust first that will
always
someone there will always be
someone who
wants to kill them that the
other
non-jews would not do anything
to help
and third is that they need to
have
Israel a safe heaven a refuge
and guard
it with whatever possible now
when you
have this at the back of your
mind and
every decade your prime nemesis
your
chief adversary Nasser of Egypt
Saddam
Hussein of Iraq Yasser Arafat
Ahmadinejad of Iran when they
want to
eliminate you or call for your
destruction and take physical
actions to
do this then you are left with
basically
one conclusion the Israelis
were left
with one conclusion rise and
kill first
paying very little tribute to
international law international
norms
and building these two sets of
law one
for regular matters and one for
the
intelligence community and the
in the
military yes it's how you
undermine our
democracy our democratic
institutions of
intelligence agencies yeah geez
ricin
kill first is the name of the
book and
people when it might want to
look at it
I have two more clips from this
guy view
interested one of it is about
the
assassination of Arafat even
though he
didn't wasn't technically
assassinated
and so they asked him about
this because
he documents all these murders
one after
the other in this book claiming
that
Israel's killed more people and
I think
he included all the drone
strikes out
Obama did as being just a kind
of a
murderous regime this guy is
Arab or Jew
is gieux
just killing Arafat yes it
dates back to
1968 killing Arafat yes it
dates back to
shortly after I fought was
appointed not
just the chief of Fatah but the
chief of
the umbrella organization
called the PLO
the Palestinian Liberation
Organization
and the the IDF Israeli defense
was were
desperate they were sending
Arafat and
the PLO was sending groups of
terrorists
from Jordan to Israel they
couldn't
catch them they couldn't catch
him and
attempt to invade Jordan and
and and
kill them end up in a
catastrophe and
then this the chief
psychiatrist of the
Israeli Navy came with what he
said is a
solution he saw that movie
American
movie The Manchurian Candidate
and said
I can do the same I can take a
Palestinian hypnotize him Jason
Bourne
start program him and send him
to Jordan
to kill us or effort and
believe it or
not the Chiefs of Israeli
intelligence
military intelligence and masa
took that
very seriously they gave him a
Palestinian prisoner who fit
the profile
that the psychiatrist thought
would be
suitable for such a process
they gave
him a training facility with
live
ammunition and for months he
trained
that person until one night he
said okay
he's he's okay he's done he's
fully
program that Palestinian
crossed the
Jordan River and after crossing
he
signaled a gun and okay to his
master
the psychiatrist and he carried
the gun
in a walkie-talkie a wireless
communication device and the
psychiatrist said he's now
going to kill
Arafat this was something like
1:00 a.m.
and 5:00 a.m. in the morning the
operatives of Israeli
intelligence
receive a report from another
agent said
that someone a Palestinian came
to a
Jordanian police station and
told the
policeman the stupid Israelis
thought
that they hypnotized me but I
was just
playing a role I'm loyal to
Arafat
please take me to Abu Ammar to
us are
far too stray Legion to the
Palestinian
Authority now this is a bit you
know
sometimes Israeli James Bond
looks more like Inspector
Clouseau it's
a bit of funny story but the
other
stories were less funny in
trying to kill our fat numerous
times
and running today did they
ultimately
succeed I mean there are of
course many
questions about Arafat's final
death
whether it was natural or not
so I thought that was amusing
well yeah
that the guy just went I was
actually
waiting for it to be hey you
know they
tried to hypnotize him he
didn't work
take me to honor fight and then
he kills
him yeah but that didn't that
didn't
happen no now if you want to
hear the
rest of it wasn't yes yes I
mean I do I
need some resolution another
story about
killing Arafat they eat we
should did
the Israelis actually do it or
not and
this is his excellent no let's
just just
from the top of my head from
memory
wasn't he kind of like inna
some kind of
standoff and his his camp was
surrounded
no he died of some strange
disease right
but I thought I thought it was
something
that he was everything was
surrounded
and he died from that disease
inside
kind of his surrounded compound
am I
remembering that incorrectly I
don't
know that just add that they
tried many
times and the the peak of that
was nine
in 1982 when Ariel Sharon
Israeli
Minister of Defense at that
time ordered
to take down a commercial
airline with
hundreds of passengers on board
in order
to kill yourself at but the the
the
Chiefs of Israeli F was
rebelled against
him and they wanted they didn't
want
Israel to be stained in this
horrific
war crimes and they didn't want
to
violate the War of the ethics
of war of
the PA of the idea and they
prevented
the operations from from
happening to
your questions your question
there is an
ambiguity and a few different
reports
about that let me just tell you
that few
months before ephod demise
mysterious
demise Israel Prime Minister
Ariel
Sharon met with President Bush
at the
White House and the president
told him
mr. prime minister we heard
that they
are plans that you have plans
to kill
yourself at and we want you to
promise
us to promise me that you will
not
assassinate Arafa and arrow
Sharon said
I see your point mr. president
now
president of course understand
it's not
the promise said I really wish
you to
and to promise me that you will
not do
that to which Iran said mr.
president
you are making a very strong
argument
but the president let it go
until Prime
Minister Sharon
promised in his voice that he
will not
kill a fat few months later
alpha dies
of a mysterious disease and I
think in
time we will have the
opportunity to
tell the story behind that in
the
meantime the Palestinians are
convinced
of course that the Mossad or
Israeli
intelligence killed him
the reason to hide the real
story was
not because of the Palestinians
but this
but because this would be a
striking
violation to a very clear
promise by
Israeli prime minister to an
American
president this is mine is that
is this
book about
Arafat or what is this book
about to
someone about all is it's a
document of
all the assassinations the
Israelis have
done and Hamas and homicidal
hummus in
there I can read that I'm just
looking
at the theories of Arafat's
death is
quite a number of them yeah hmm
interesting a number of them
yeah hmm
all right I don't have it that
that was
a lightning yo yeah very very
in like
this it's light-hearted to just
a final
final because the papers were
filled
with it when I was leaving
leaving
London is that mi6 is very
worried about
what would be disclosed if
President
Trump should actually open up a
lot of
this Russia Russia Gate
investigation
in particular what role mi6
British
intelligence played in helping
I think
put together the report that
led to
Carter pages wiretap and a
couple other
issues right and this is of
course not
being really reported on much
at all as
not here at New York Times
anyone done
anything Wall Street Journal
don't know
was gonna do it and what
they're saying
is it boils down to exposure of
people
and we don't want to reveal
sources and
methods so somehow the British
intelligence appears to have
been I
would use the word meddling in
our
elections I would think so I
get there
tit in the wringer
yeah they like to say right but
why do
we not have a single I mean
okay besides
the night asking me of course
you're
just joking when you know no
I'm I was
gonna say why why doesn't even
papers
that Washington Post in new
york times
are pretty much dominated by CIA
employees yes yes so this
professional
courtesy is what you're saying
yeah well
your no agenda show was
reporting on it
what we can but there's not
very much
like that Guardian article that
I got it
from is behind a firewall or
pay wall
you can only get it if you Yahoo
reprinted it and he's also a
telegraph
article about it but it's all
it's the
Brits are talking about it but
we're not
doing our typical copy and
paste a into
the u.s. publication but it
does seem
that there's some fishy
business going
on there's some fishy business
going
yeah heads should roll final
clip for me
you have a new mayor in San
Francisco
about three months the mayor's
been in
office how long has the new
mayor been
in Manorville
yeah maybe six months three
three three
just up by three all right
three yeah
this what's her name
I really don't know Bravo
Charlie I
thinks her name what's her name
I can't
remember her name something
crazy okay
that she ran on a promise that
within
three months she would clean up
the poop
clean up the poop in San
Francisco and I
have a report earlier this year
we
surveyed a hundred and fifty
three
blocks of downtown San
Francisco and
uncovered a dangerous mix of
trash
needles and feces the story
gained
national attention and became a
major
issue in the mayor's race then
candidate
London breed promised a cleaner
San
Francisco within three months
if elected
I would measure that by it you
know like
not having feces you know on our
sidewalks and also urine and
other
things that we see the needles
and many
of the other challenges that
exist that
would all be eliminators just a
few I'm
not saying that it will all be
eliminated I am saying that
there will
be a significant difference
where it's
noticeable so we're back on the
streets
to find out if she made good on
that
pledge my producer and I
resurveyed 20
of the dirtiest blocks in
downtown San
Francisco across all 20 blocks
we found
35 used drug needles
that's down 39 percent compared
to our
last survey 10 months ago
but like before we spotted
trash on
every block we also saw feces
on all 20
blocks in total we found feces
a hundred
and fifty nine times
that's a 67% increase and in a
bizarre
new twist someone appears to be
using
feces to graffiti sidewalks in
the city
seriously to graffiti sidewalks
in the city
we compared the mayor's first
three
months in office to the three
months
prior and found complaints to
the city
about needles feces and trash
have all
increased is San Francisco
cleaner today
than before you took office I
think it
is because I'm out there on a
regular
basis we've invested more
resources
we're spending more time trying
to get
people house and we're focusing
on
areas we know are the most
problematic I
am doing everything I can to
invest the
right resources into making San
Francisco a lot cleaner and it
takes
time to get to a better place
so even
though complaints are up since
you've
been elected you don't think
it's
because the city is actually
dirtier I
don't think it's because the
city is
actually dirty I think it's
because more
people are reporting the
challenges that
exist the people who simply
think you
didn't accomplish what you said
you were
I just started as mayor a
couple months
ago they gave me that
three-month
promise and you see a
difference in
certain areas it is noticeable
there is
a huge difference in certain
parts of
the city but you would
acknowledge this
that he doesn't actually have
data or
any kind of metrics to show that
definitively well we have what
we see
visually but at what point will
walking
over feces not be part of the
norm in
this city
I hope sooner rather than later
any idea
when I hope sooner rather than
later
we're talking months weeks any
timeline
I hope sooner rather than later
hey what
are you working for the Austin
Chamber
of Commerce with his clip oh
yeah
I'm just letting them know I'm
watching
them here in Austin cuz you
know we're
next here in Austin cuz you
know we're
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know we're
poop will be on the streets and
that
does help with real-estate
prices all
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