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November 22nd, 2018 • 2h 44m

1088: Three Chamber

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what is going on with those people is no
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agenda is going on with those people is no
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[Music] is going on with those people is no
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I'm curry from Northern Silicon Valley
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where we did miss this effort and it was
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a unique 10-car train I'm John cd4s
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[Music] unique 10-car train I'm John cd4s
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alright happy Thanksgiving and tell me
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Thanksgiving do you and you and everyone
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out there that will be celebrating
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Thanksgiving everyone except the
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Canadians who already had Thanksgiving
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somewhere near the first of November
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you know the Dutch we've talked about
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this I just got back from my trip to the
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Gitmo nation lowlands the Dutch you know
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they love taking little traditions and
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just taking they don't really like
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America they think Trump is horrible and
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you know we're all racists but
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interestingly even though what we
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already know they took Halloween the
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Dutch have Halloween celebrations they
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have Halloween parties it's not spelled
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the same it's Halloween which is
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entirely based on the movies that's why
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they think it's cool hello hello but of
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course the Netherlands has no
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Thanksgiving since you know they were
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not fortunate enough to kill the natives
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of our country and you know to eat their
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turkeys but they have all built the
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whole thing from scratch but they have a
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Black Friday now
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which is tomorrow the same day notices I
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noticed this is going on in England too
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so we don't have Thanksgiving cuz you
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know it's not our celebration not our
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country but hey man we have Black Friday
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for shopping hidden unbelievable
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yes I noticed this last year when we
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were anticipating Thanksgiving it looks
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right at a blind they have a block
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lighted and like Friday what are you
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guys talking about
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and is this can it can we somehow turn
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this racist
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would that be that would end it why is
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it called Black Friday what is the
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actual because it's the distant one day
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of the year that the books go black they
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go into the oh is that really the reason
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yeah into the oh is that really the reason
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it's not because we see tons of black
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people piling on top of each other in
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the Walmart that's about it
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it's about this that one day where they
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all of a sudden now these department
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stores are in a profit mode
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I'm good money now okay I don't think if
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you went on the street and you asked
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anyone went on the street and you asked
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I don't think three out of ten would
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know what he would over to have that
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answer I never knew until I looked it up
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there was some years back is it where
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they call this Black Friday's kind of
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disgusting that's when things are
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supposed to go bad is Black Friday it's
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when the market crashed yes black it's a
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black that's a black day it's like a
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dead that's a black day it's like a
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yeah all of this way the books flip ah I
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didn't realize that interesting well
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they do have that such new on the no
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agenda story yes yes you do yes car
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train is part of these ten car trains
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for the last week and I'm thinking as
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I've been looking at these trains again
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why are they ten cars all of a sudden
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they've always been eight maybe nine and
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it turns out that it was like yesterday
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was the number one travel day of all
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time I mean this is the time that
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everyone travels apparently yesterday
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was the big day just thinking to myself
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what idiot would travel on a day like
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that that would be me that's right I
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came home yesterday although I was
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traveling from from Gitmo lowlands
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through London back to Austin so I
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didn't really have the the you know the
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National internal rush that we had and
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it was actually it was booze okay but
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let me tell you it what do you mean the
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internal reach over the interim would
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you know us or just domestic domestic
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flights would they be tried there's no
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Thanksgiving in Europe no but that's the
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only thing that's the only thing that
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was really messed up international
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flights coming in there was no real
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issue going to that going to a u.s.
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Airport standing in u.s. airport line
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that's what I'm saying I didn't I was at
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the airport at five in Amsterdam to get
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out believe me very calm at that time
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of hope and then I flew to London you
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know you London you go to terminal five
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and you have to you stay within the
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terminal but then you have to know stop
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back up people the Netherlands people
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answered an airport as you leave the
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country this is new I have not seen this
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before this is new I have not seen this
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do you scan your boarding card you can
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see the the customs guy right there
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because there is a exit interview in the
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Netherlands for your customs when you're
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leaving they stamp you in stamp you out
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but before that this is you know there's
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gates and you have to stay a little
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glass gates you have to go into a portal
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like a subway station you scan your
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boarding card and then it says look here
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boom boom boom this is light flashing
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off to the right you see yourself on the
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camera and it's doing a complete you
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know facial recognition scan almost
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makes the sound um it blasted about
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thirty seconds before it finally let me
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in I had I took my glasses off I know
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maybe it's good maybe that helped or not
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they couldn't find me but it's your got
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a scan of me you know if it wasn't
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scanning it was making one I don't like
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that this is that I don't understand
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that's just that just can't appeared out
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of the blue and of course that's after
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you then slide your passport into their
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little scanner so they're linking my
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face with my passport now that you know
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the passport doesn't have a picture
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anyway then you go to London now you're
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in terminal five you arrive in terminal
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five and you want to do a transit so you
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again you go through similar little
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glass gates you scan your your your
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boarding card and then you have to go
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through security again have you ever
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done this secure I don't know if I've
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talked about this have you ever done the
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security going back to the u.s. in
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terminal five
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at Heathrow because you have to do you
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have to essentially go through a whole
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security process again except these
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agents are dicks there they're rude
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they're just asses many of the women at
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American agents know these are British
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these are British and they are rude they
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they treat you like you're an idiot
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you know it's it's very to me it feels
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the very chauvinistic Brits you know you
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don't understand this prep I Spit on you
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foreigner it's like just assholes I
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really could really go to me and it's
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like I've had this a couple of times
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it's just like wow you know they gets to
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the point where of course my bag has to
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be ripped open but you know they're
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really cavalier they walk back and forth
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this excuse me I'm kind of waiting on my
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bag then they give you a look and they
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make you wait five more minutes yeah
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that other other passing my bag in which
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they've opened up and you know and they
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should scuse me I need the space this is
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that you just unpack this and I'm
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packing it in yes yeah I need the space
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you have to move repeat this passengers
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fellow passengers saying you take your
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time you know we will wait for her just
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their passes and I saw every single I
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had three hours later what is going on
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with those people
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ah those people
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it's vets unbraid --is-- in a way this
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is very unbreathing true brits but they
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just treat you with disdain and I'm not
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saying our TSA officers are any better
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yelling at you but it's so surprising
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because you don't expect it in the UK
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anyway there you go
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so what was my point well you were
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talking about well we were trying to
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discuss the tribulations of travelling
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on the worst travel yes there you go
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there you go so for me otherwise it was
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fine just took forever to you land in
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Austin you're you're right you're good
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to go with the suitcase I don't know I
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think they've already been pre checked
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in London is that the idea yeah checked
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all the way through yeah and then you
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just get off and lost and you're done
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well yeah you wait for an hour and a
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half because when you when you are pre
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checked you get that long transit
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sticker and of course they put you I
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guess somewhere way in the front or the
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back of the plane and so your first on
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and definitely last off with your
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baggage missus just whatever I'm its
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first world problems
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however quick update sports no yes from
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us over here in the San Francisco Bay
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Area over here in the San Francisco Bay
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the Warriors suck the Dutch as you know
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they had trounced and humiliated the
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World Cup winner France all they had to
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do is had a have a tie score against the
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Germans their second game against the
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Germans and it looked like we were all
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gonna have to jump off of the balcony
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because it was they were to kneel down
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at the half and they pulled it out of
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their butts and tied the Germans in the
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last minutes they came for their bikes
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and they took back a wheel not the whole
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thing but at least the wheel
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very proud of the Duchess was a big deal
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yeah yeah tying a game with Germany yes
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and interesting that nil nil no it was
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it was no it was to nil to to form is to
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to there was to nil for most of the game
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and then at the very Lin the very last
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10 minutes they pull the one out that
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doll do the Hat that's actually called
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doing it it's never mind you're just
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gonna scoff it doesn't matter I will no
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I will no longer talk about the most
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popular sport in the world I won't do
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that sport in the world I won't do
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what do you think it is the most popular
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sport because the actions in the stands
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or people beaten up each other no oh
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it's a very simple sport that anyone can
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play just need a ball and a couple of
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sticks it's a it's a sport everybody can
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pick up immediately you can't just you
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need a basketball when your hoops to
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play basketball and and this in soccer
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football predates so many sports mystics
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is an exciting sport just not on TV
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well it's never gonna be good on TV as
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you've pointed out before no advertising
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no what you can't put if you can't put
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it on TV they don't stop the game like
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cannot put it on the TV all right back
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just back to Thanksgiving for a moment
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do we need to do the story of
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Thanksgiving it's kind of a tradition
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shorten it up a little bit yeah I'd like
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you to give a quick recap and then I
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have a great from an old column I wrote
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in 2004 the term Thanksgiving was
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brandished throughout US history and
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officially codified by Lincoln in 1863
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at the behest of an activist woman
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writer named Sarah Hale before 1863
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there was no Thanksgiving per se but a
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lot of proclamations giving thanks for
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this and that some some called
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Thanksgiving there are virtually no
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thanksgiving events from the Thomas
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Jefferson administration until Sarah
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revitalized the dying idea her rationale
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was that Americans didn't have enough
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holidays really she had the right idea
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there the Lincoln Thanksgiving was
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justified as a celebration of the
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North's victory in winning the Battle of
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Gettysburg and had absolutely nothing to
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do with pilgrims or anything of the sort
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that nonsense was all reverse engineered
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by sentimentalists even the first
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supposed to Thanksgiving in 1621 which
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is kind of funny because I was reading
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on Twitter about how suddenly George
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Washington is now the inventor of
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Thanksgiving is now the inventor of
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it never ends it never ends this
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changing story of the fake thanksgiving
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thanksgiving for 1621 there's a
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three-day one-shot party modeled after
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something called the harvest home it
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wasn't called Thanksgiving harvest home
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was the end of the harvest party
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celebrated in parts of the British Isles
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this party didn't happen again in fact
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most of these invited Indian guests to
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the 1621 event were later butchered by
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the growing population of settlers
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Thanksgiving anyway good there's other
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examples of these one-shots and it was
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Lincoln who made this is never just the
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last of the story lincoln who made it a
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yearly event also made it stick to the
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fourth Thursday in November it only
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changed I get this it only changed for
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two years during the Franklin Roosevelt
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administration and moved up a week in
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hopes of stretching believe this this is
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a fact and in hopes of stretching the
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Christmas buying pattern Oh an extra
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week I believe that that makes that it
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totally sounds American helping the
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economy it was already a known fact that
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Thanksgiving was the kickoff to
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Christmas buying a slew of half-hearted
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traditionalist and that he get these
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traditionalists found the Roosevelt
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change an abomination census somehow
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insulted pilgrims or the DAR oh who
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knows who and it was changed back after
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a couple of years of bickering right so
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let's think so Thanksgiving is bogus and
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now we have a new thing which is the
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addition to the old story of this thing
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called friendsgiving what oh yeah this
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is height look it up oh this sounds like
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a social justice warrior move well what
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it what it's supposed to be this got two
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things going on with it one of them is
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slightly slightly one of them is
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extremely disgusting if you look it up
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in the urban dictionary a definition
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number for friendsgiving is where you
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dip your nuts into the turkey gravy and
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film it and then serve the gravy and
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then show people the film like a couple
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weeks late
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John you need to get another column or
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something because you're spelling that's
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too much time on the internet looking at
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weird shit man this has got a stuff so
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friendsgiving is which is you'll see the
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term a lot used especially this year is
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the idea that you have friends over as
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though you never did friends over for
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the Thanksgiving feast
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instead of or in lieu of or in place of
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family Oh
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Thanksgiving means family friends giving
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means friends because we hate the family
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yeah oh gosh yeah and above the balls in
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the net the net friends giving and
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seeing his yeah I I'm not gonna have any
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gravy I was not supposed to even do a
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show today but you know seeing is you
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were only thinking of yourself yeah here
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we are
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here's how it went we I'll tell you the
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story from my perspective now we got to
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move on I was pretty convinced we had
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discussed having a best of interview
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show on Thanksgiving this year and John
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had done one interview with the mooch
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and I think we're gonna do another one
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or it was kind of a little bit a couple
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lined up it was a little unclear but was
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pretty sure we're gonna do a special
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show and then John was all like well I
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don't have to cook anyway no one's
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coming over so I'm screwed I'm just
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we're gonna do a show I'm like yeah I
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have I have a people coming you didn't
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consider me for one second
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really so UK you could've just said no
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the reason is right I tried you went nah
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man no okay the real reason the real
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reason is that we've got show 1089 33
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square right coming up the next show
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this Sunday and I think we needed to
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tease it this is just a promotional
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episode episode
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I forgot I I now I understand I'm
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completely on board let me then move
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into this do you have any idea when
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their tradition started of the United
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States President pardoning a turkey for
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Thanksgiving President pardoning a turkey for
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I'm glad you asked because I'm assuming
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now that you know no I don't you did
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some research I know no I believe it's
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the the first president might have been
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no I don't know I did the reason I don't
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know is because I did not look it up
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because I don't care and it's a totally
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fake event and it's something every
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president does every single year and
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it's spot open Trump wait wait just be
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quiet spot open Trump wait wait just be
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it's fun it's like it's fake it's
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make-believe it's like Santa Claus it's
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like black Petes it's like it's just
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fake fun can the news media today just
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play along just for one day just play
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along for one day with the fake that
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everyone knows is fake without insulting
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or without pulling some other crap into
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it you know the orange man bad no it
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doesn't seem to be possible I cut out
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all the ceremonious stuff just got you
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the intro and the outro the president is
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actually about to take the podium at the
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White House we're going to go ahead and
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listen in there at this Rose Garden
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event it's actually the turkey pardon I
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mean you can't make this up happening at
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this moment the fact that she starts off
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by saying you can't make this up I'm
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like wait a minute is this something new
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did they not know the president does a
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fake pardoning of a turkey
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I mean you hear that aren't you set up
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and and very interested as to why then
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this year is different I was that
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introduction makes it sound very
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singular that Obama never did it or Bush
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never did it or Clinton never did it or
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Kennedy never did it or Johnson never
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did it and I was I was even more
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surprised by what it was all about
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president is actually about to take the
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podium at the White House we're going to
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go ahead and listen in there at this
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Rose Garden event it's actually the
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turkey pardon I mean you can't make this
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up happening at this moment let's listen
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you seated good afternoon everyone a
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very special day at the White House we
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are thrilled to be joined today and
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there you have it president Trump
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pardoning the Thanksgiving turkey the
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annual tradition peas the name of this
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turkey and just the most unusual
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dichotomy here as this comes on the
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heels of a statement that the president
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has put out essentially pardoning Saudi
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Arabia and the crown prince in the king
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there despite what I mean if you if
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that's you have to now take the
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pardoning of a turkey and say what an
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unbelievable dichotomy as he's
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essentially pardoning Saudi Arabia from
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their atrocities that is the biggest
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sharp junk.just sharp jump I've ever
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seen and well for the stop on that that
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subject matter for one second which is
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Trump says that he had a briefing from
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Gina the head of the CIA and I guess
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somebody at the FBI guy or someone and
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he says they don't know really what
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happened now there's no report did you
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see a report yet was there see no report
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but yet all these news media outlets
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keeps saying the CIA the CIA the CIA
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citing some mysterious report based on
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is apparently someone at the Washington
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Post saying it's that it exists the
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Washington Post published yeah it exists
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it's coming according to people familiar
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with the process according to sources
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who could not be identified according to
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sources who do would not speak on the
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record because they were not authorized
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to do so
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this is it's so easy these days just
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print a headline say I got some sources
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and B the Washington Post and you can do
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whatever you want and now this is has
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contaminated the fake turkey pardoning
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call the dichotomy because he's
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pardoning a real nation although there's
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no actual pardon there's no pregnant
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presidential pardon going to Saudi
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Arabia pardon going to Saudi
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this is you know they only have
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sovereignty over Saudi Arabia that we
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can pardon anybody do they not see the
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irony of this or are they just trying to
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be followed the public or no but it's
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still not too far away from the
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sovereignty we must seem to see over
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Julian Assange is not even American
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citizens right we're gonna they've
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indicted him for some reason that
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somebody's that we used to die trend and
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people that did are Australians while we
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indict random Russians
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yeah we did right we died amateur random
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Russian sir it'll never show up except
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for the one so boating except for the
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one guy that actually said it yeah I'm
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going taking you to court
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you know they don't know what to do
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about that
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well as couple Russians come over here
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on the diamond ask for discovery that'll
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take care of that problem
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so and it's being in Europe for a week
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you release you can almost see these
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little cyclones of outrage that are just
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spinning around yeah you don't and the
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whole different time zone so you get the
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news and it's just very different and I
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was receiving it in a very different
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manner I wasn't on Twitter incessantly
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you know just you know reading some
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stuff you know getting snooze stories
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from people and you can just see it's
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all it's so much about nothing and then
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you know it's all it's all like this
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turkey story it's all like oh no this ha
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and now we have to assure you yes that
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if Trump I thought I was actually
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convinced and I was regretful that he
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didn't drop this stupid idea and I can
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assure you that if he had said no we're
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not doing that dumb
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hmm well I did want to do a little
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segment here I have two clips because
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I've noticed a very distinct narrative
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that's taking place a conversation and
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the conversation goes something like
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this I like what Trump does I hate the
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way he does it except it's a little
22:48
different we're now talking about we're
22:50
talking about policy versus style style
22:55
you see and this is now it's kind of be
23:00
use as a defense
23:01
so Trump supporters which by the way are
23:05
called Trump supporters around the world
23:07
it's not Trump voters or Republicans or
23:10
people who like him even in in Holland
23:13
it's or in the UK I was in both over the
23:17
past week Trump supporters Trump
23:19
supporter what does that even mean
23:21
Trump supporters well they have another
23:23
term that they used here a lot which is
23:25
called the base the base yeah yes well
23:33
this is policy versus style and you'll
23:36
hear people who do favor the president's
23:39
policy often saying but I disapprove of
23:43
his style and this came up in - I'm
23:47
trying to think which one to play first
23:49
actually I'll do this this was Don Lemon
23:52
it's a rather long clip but I really
23:55
think it's interesting the conversation
23:57
was between four women
23:59
we had a white Democrat a white
24:04
Republican a black University of
24:08
Berkeley professor of history Stephanie
24:10
Rogers and we had black Don Lemon so
24:13
four women are on the panel and I know
24:18
it's just meaning me to say that but I
24:19
can't help it
24:20
they're all coffee coffee clutching and
24:22
the assertion from the professor of
24:26
history Stephanie Rogers
24:27
is that women white women actually have
24:31
have have been a part of the white
24:34
supremacy and institutional racism that
24:37
has that dominates all things unfair in
24:41
our country
24:43
and although not everyone agrees
24:46
ultimately it comes down to how he says
24:49
stuff or what he says versus policy and
24:52
then we'll kind of wind that up with a
24:54
with a with an MSNBC clip but first just
24:58
listen to this because it's but the
25:00
whole conversation is just intense to me
25:03
when it comes to divisiveness through
25:06
racism definitely you you are quoted in
25:08
this Fox article is saying for centuries
25:10
white women have invested in white
25:13
supremacy because their whiteness
25:15
affords them a particular kind of power
25:17
that their gender does not explain what
25:19
you mean by that so you see this is a
25:22
pretty loaded topic right off the bat so
25:25
as a historian I explore white womens
25:28
economic investments in the institution
25:30
of slavery white women I gotta stop this
25:33
white men women's investments in the
25:35
institutional what does she say the
25:37
institutional institution so as a
25:43
historian I explore white women's
25:46
economic investments in the institution
25:47
of slavery white womens economic
25:49
investments in the institution of
25:51
slavery very small minority of people
25:54
that had slaves in the south at well not
25:57
a much momentary but it wasn't minority
25:59
manometer economic investment economic
26:02
that means they're putting money into it
26:04
or I think what she might be headed
26:07
toward is that well now you have slaves
26:09
you don't have to do the dishes and what
26:12
that has led me to understand is that
26:15
there's this broader historical context
26:17
that we need to keep in mind when we
26:18
when we're looking at white women's
26:20
voting patterns today and as we look at
26:23
you know their their support their you
26:25
know overwhelming support of Donald
26:29
Trump when when a professor is trying to
26:31
explain such a heavy topic as this and
26:34
laughs right off the bat white womens
26:38
support of Donald Trump's I mean this is
26:41
a jail right there because the white
26:43
women's support of Donald Trump was 51%
26:47
like a major deal hahaha
26:49
voting patterns today and as we look at
26:52
you know their their support their you
26:55
know overwhelming
26:56
a supporter of Donald Trump and so tell
27:01
us that laugh tell yeah but it's not
27:04
okay than this topic it's not nothing
27:05
funny that support is 51% I wholly call
27:11
that a bandwagon I think of white women
27:14
as primarily focusing focusing on their
27:18
gendered oppression that because they
27:21
are oppressed as women that that
27:23
oppression will allow for them to ally
27:26
and to to sympathize with other
27:29
dispossessed and disempowered peoples in
27:32
the nation but my research actually
27:34
shows that they long long had a deep
27:39
investment in white supremacy and not
27:41
only did they benefit from it but they
27:43
participated in its construction and its
27:45
perpetuation she left again not just in
27:49
the context of slavery not just in the
27:51
colonial period but well after slavery
27:54
was over so Alice why do you think that
27:56
white women support President Trump do
27:57
you think they identify more with being
27:59
as she said white than they do with
28:01
being female she's also you know so here
28:03
it is again we I think we really need to
28:05
start listening to some of the words
28:06
because there's a difference between I
28:08
voted for him and I support him and so
28:11
they're kind of taking this 52% voted
28:14
for him into they support him and this
28:16
is where we start to diverge
28:18
I think this Stephanie woman I think she
28:20
may be the lucky she's the white
28:22
Republican or the white will here your
28:23
period but well after slavery was over
28:26
so Alice why do you think that white
28:28
women support President Trump do you
28:29
think they identify more with being as
28:31
she said white than they do with being
28:33
female she just said that I think when
28:36
we're talking about the political arena
28:37
voters women and men identify themselves
28:40
as either Republican Democrat
28:42
independent or whatever their political
28:44
party and I strongly disagree with the
28:47
characterization let's stop right there
28:48
I don't identify as any anything I just
28:52
I'm just a voter I'm sorry I just I
28:54
reject that out of hand
28:56
I'm just voting I'm not I do not belong
28:58
to a party can democratic hold on
29:02
a lot of people do identify with their
29:05
party sure and a lot of people are
29:07
independent which would be you I don't
29:09
identify to think because the parties
29:11
have been so screwy that the independent
29:12
the independent numbers have increased
29:16
to the point where they have to everyone
29:17
else I cater to them you know cater to
29:19
the Republicans if you're a Republican
29:21
because you know you're gonna get their
29:22
vote so you cater to these these
29:24
independents so-called swing voters and
29:26
because they can go either way
29:28
their swing I'm just I'm just saying
29:31
that I reject someone telling me that I
29:34
have to identify with some party even if
29:37
it's an in if it's independent
29:39
I just identify as me I think when we're
29:41
talking about the political arena voters
29:44
women and men identify themselves as
29:46
either Republican Democrat independent
29:48
or whatever their political party and I
29:50
strongly disagree with the
29:52
characterization that women are
29:54
oppressed and by nature of that
29:55
oppression they should naturally vote
29:57
for another group of people that are
29:59
oppressed I think that's just not how
30:01
politics works I think as a Republican
30:04
or a Democrat or whatever your political
30:06
leanings is you should vote for people
30:09
that represent those policies I'm a
30:10
Republican I support this president I
30:13
voted for this president I did so
30:15
because of his policy I do not agree
30:17
with his tone and tenor Donilon your
30:20
tone and tenor we got to write that down
30:21
that's what it is tone and tenor
30:26
discounting his behavior his tone his
30:28
tactics the things he says about women
30:31
has denigrating women and I don't
30:32
tolerate that but this is policies or
30:35
what I stand for but you don't have to
30:37
support him you could not vote I mean
30:40
that's it this is the this is the White
30:42
Democrat the white woman Democrat who
30:44
now says you could just not vote which
30:46
is also a way to identify but is the
30:49
policies or what I stand for but you
30:52
don't have to support him you could not
30:54
vote I mean that's the thing I could say
30:56
there's a Democrat who does everything
30:59
that I agree with but they say
31:00
misogynist or racist thing I would not
31:02
vote for them and and I just want to
31:04
step back for a second and say look we
31:06
spent a lot of time talking about
31:07
Republican Women look there's a problem
31:10
with white women it doesn't matter
31:12
whether they're Democrats or Republicans
31:14
or not
31:15
thing there's a problem with racism
31:17
every everybody every white person
31:20
benefits from an inherently racist
31:23
system that is structurally racist we
31:27
are all we're all part of the problem so
31:30
I'm going to point my finger at you know
31:32
just are you white point my finger at
31:34
you or an another person but I think we
31:36
have to recognize that there are there's
31:38
institutional racism in this country and
31:41
I saying I'm just going to support
31:43
somebody who you just said says racist
31:46
things and does racist things you see
31:49
you see other conflate well they're just
31:51
talking they're just saying that they
31:52
have no examples but they're conflating
31:54
support with with voting and then it's
31:58
you know it's the tone I don't agree
32:00
with this tone we'll get back to the
32:01
Stephanie here for the last 30 seconds
32:03
there's a problem just a point of
32:05
clarification so I did not say that
32:06
white women voted for Trump because they
32:10
were racist what I would I actually said
32:12
their historical context and which white
32:15
supremacy is quite important to right
32:17
women not simply as the mound of
32:20
beneficiaries of white supremacy but as
32:22
part orchestrators part of the built you
32:25
know the builders yes women helped build
32:31
white supremacy help help me understand
32:36
John what is let's just get some terms
32:38
what is white supremacy as the bully I
32:45
just saw yes just off the top of your
32:47
head sure belief that what the white
32:49
race per se is superior to the other
32:53
races so what she's saying is that even
32:57
today women helped build the
33:04
I believe I guess that white people are
33:06
superior to all other races that's what
33:08
she's saying but how did how would you
33:11
do that
33:13
I guess by voting for a white guy yeah
33:18
okay in that case yeah I guess the kind
33:21
of beneficiaries of white supremacy but
33:23
as part orchestrators part of the bill
33:26
you know the builders of premise II so
33:30
just to clarify that and I agree totally
33:32
with what Kristin said this is this is
33:35
not about simply conservative white
33:37
women this is a phenomenon that is
33:38
spread across the country whether in the
33:41
south or the north you can see that this
33:44
is and it's not an indictment against
33:45
all white women this is about a certain
33:47
you know a certain percentage of these
33:49
white women who do indeed vote for a man
33:52
who is certainly not speaking to their
33:54
interests as women or as human beings so
33:57
I think what she's saying is you can't
34:01
vote for someone based on his policies
34:04
if if you deem that person to be hateful
34:10
towards women
34:13
or annoying in general it sounds like
34:16
yes so you know your point of course
34:19
would you which you made is well what
34:23
races and what misogyny and now we go to
34:26
the second clip this was a fascinating I
34:28
was meet the pronoun no Face the Nation
34:31
MSNBC you know that's not to face the
34:33
nation is at CBS
34:36
I think so yeah depressive B NBC Face
34:39
the Nation Dan they had four or five of
34:43
new new freshmen coming into the House
34:46
of Representatives including Dan
34:48
Crenshaw and he is the Iraq veteran who
34:52
had his who was missing an eye has the
34:54
eyepatch he was the subject of the
34:56
controversy on Saturday Night Live which
34:58
I thought actually was kind of solved in
35:00
a nice nice man or the next week a nice
35:03
to him well of course it's thanks to him
35:05
and I'm liking this guy now so he's
35:07
going to call out this penguin when I
35:09
forget who it's another freshman coming
35:11
in says well you know and we've heard
35:14
this a million times he's undermining
35:16
our democracy the Democrat he's ripping
35:20
apart I'm talking about Trump ripping
35:23
apart democratic institutions orange man
35:26
bad and so Crenshaw says well could you
35:29
just give me some examples and I thought
35:32
this whole set although it went way over
35:34
everyone's head I thought this I thought
35:35
the segment was outstanding to show you
35:38
just how vapid this argument is but you
35:43
know my experience thus far and I think
35:45
Deb can before we start off if someone
35:47
said to you please give me some examples
35:49
how Trump is undermining our democracy
35:51
would you I mean just thinking from any
35:54
kind of dimension what kind of examples
35:57
could we come up with well I could I
36:02
would say that by assigning a lot of
36:05
super conservative judges and every
36:07
bench around but is that funder mining
36:09
the democracy no I'm sorry yes from my
36:15
mistake yes okay so conservative judges
36:17
conservative judges is undermining the
36:19
democracy yes exactly
36:24
what else is undermining the democracy
36:26
right rushing through the Supreme Court
36:28
justices okay rushing through yeah
36:31
undermining that would be undermining
36:33
the democracy um belittling and going
36:38
through staffers too quickly these going
36:41
through too much firing yes too much
36:44
fire now it's fire undermines the
36:45
democracy to the firing right right
36:48
cozying up to Putin oh yes yes collusion
36:53
yeah yeah
36:54
losin cozying up yes that's undermining
36:56
our democracy going along with that not
36:59
not doing somebody the American Lib did
37:04
the non American citizen but the
37:07
American resident oh yes
37:09
[Music] resident oh yes
37:15
what what we realize here is that none
37:19
of these are actual things that
37:21
undermine our democracy and undermining
37:25
the democracy would be doing something
37:28
with the you know the three branches of
37:30
government that would really break it
37:32
but an actual undermining but you know
37:34
maybe they have some examples let's
37:36
listen to this this is a very nice
37:37
little conversation but you know my
37:40
experience thus far and I think Deb can
37:42
touch on this as well as a number the
37:43
Progressive Caucus but no I don't think
37:45
that's the case I think we are all
37:46
working together rowing in the same
37:48
direction trying to save our democracy
37:50
to be frank and so save our democracy
37:53
well look I think that right now it's
37:56
important for this majority in the house
37:58
to engage its some really critical
38:00
oversight of an administration that is
38:03
undermining a lot of critical freedoms
38:05
for folks in our country undermining a
38:07
lot of critical freedoms for folks that
38:10
live in our country
38:12
that's what we need to remember and so
38:14
when I say save our democracy I mean
38:16
precisely that that I think some of our
38:17
democratic freedoms and the principles
38:19
that we live by have been do you know
38:21
should we try to make a list some of our
38:24
democratic freedoms that have gone there
38:26
being that are in harm's way
38:27
I think there are artani no I think
38:30
they're all pretty much intact including
38:32
you know the right to go say stupid
38:34
stuff still kind of okay I have been
38:37
under attack for the better part of the
38:38
last two years congressman elect do you
38:39
want to respond to that since the
38:41
president has is the leader of your
38:42
party yeah why I always ask the question
38:44
like like what you know like what is the
38:48
undermining exactly you know what what
38:50
democratic freedoms have been undermined
38:51
we just had an election where we
38:52
switched switched power in the house
38:54
democracy is at work people are voting
38:57
and we're in record numbers sounds about
38:59
right to me I always asked for example
39:02
and then we can hit those examples one
39:04
by one and if it's and if it's worth now
39:06
now are you ready just so he's gonna say
39:09
please give me some examples the whole
39:11
group including the hosts of the
39:13
moderator of this panel is going to jump
39:15
in and it's just like a diarrhea of
39:18
words and these are all things that are
39:21
undermining our democracy utilizing it's
39:24
worth criticizing but just kind of this
39:25
broad brush criticism that the president
39:29
is somehow undermining our democracy I
39:31
always wonder that what exactly we're
39:33
talking I see a free pass and they can't
39:54
no one's no one's actually speaking an
39:56
entire sentence I always wonder what
39:59
exactly we're talking about
40:11
many press members under investigation
40:13
Trump is not last week one of the
40:18
largest media publications in the United
40:20
States right had to go to a federal
40:21
court in order to essentially regain
40:24
access or turn one reporter including
40:28
CBS did file amicus that's right and
40:31
they as they actually believe that this
40:34
court case was a First Amendment court
40:36
case which it was not but that's okay
40:38
you know did they really thought Trump
40:40
really tried to undermine our democracy
40:42
with that support yeah
40:44
so I mean obviously it's much larger
40:47
because he was disrupted but well
40:51
disruptive in those very same press
40:53
conferences and I would argue the heat
40:56
press though so how is that undermining
41:00
our democracy and here's an important
41:01
one how is that attacking the press
41:04
because it's literally in a towel I've
41:06
literally been attacked
41:08
I think this too bad this kind of just
41:10
got glossed over the guy's been blown up
41:12
he was literally blown up by an AED and
41:15
they have the gall to say he's attacking
41:18
I feel a talk he says I did I was really
41:21
attacked they're all too chickenshit to
41:23
say anything about it it's very same
41:24
press conferences and I would argue the
41:27
press though because it's literally in a
41:30
towel I've literally been attacked so I
41:32
choose our words carefully language is
41:35
and it's okay so why can't you speak why
41:38
why is he not allowed to use his own
41:40
language and freedom of speech oh okay
41:43
now we get to a very sticky point why
41:46
can the president not exercise his First
41:49
Amendment right and speak freely well of
41:53
course it's unpresidential because and
41:57
you talked about this actually it's
41:58
important that we lead for an example
42:00
that we made from our president I agree
42:03
with you
42:04
I agree with you their style is one
42:05
thing if you wanna criticize dial I'm
42:07
with you right but to say it's an attack
42:10
on the freedom of the press that is a
42:11
very bold statement by calling the press
42:14
the enemy of the people literally I
42:18
don't like that one break news of course
42:23
undermining us with his rhetoric about
42:27
erasing trans people in our country that
42:31
he's erasing trans people LGBTQ
42:43
community and I think that's a
42:45
troublesome and I think that's a
42:47
I think it's worrisome we all have
42:49
communities and I mean across this
42:52
country and and we mentioned it at the
42:55
beginning ripping children away from
42:56
their parents arms things that undermine
43:00
our democracy worry me that I absolutely
43:03
feel that we have to just you know my
43:06
CIA and the FBI and the State Department
43:09
and all those important institutions
43:11
that are fundamental to how our
43:13
democracy work what I hear lot of
43:15
intelligence agencies are now apparently
43:19
fundamental to how our democracy works
43:23
well how about histories you started
43:26
with the top of the CIA which was
43:28
founded in 1947 is fundamental to do yes
43:31
FBI that that actively sought out people
43:35
who are communists to to shame them and
43:39
throw them out of the country lives
43:41
through in their lives that's that's
43:44
important for our democracy it they keep
43:47
our democracy working please lady
43:49
absolutely feel that we have to be I and
43:55
the State Department and all those
43:57
important institutions that are
43:59
fundamental to how our democracy works
44:00
what I hear a lot is you don't like what
44:02
he says and sometimes okay but you don't
44:04
like them but you're saying undermining
44:07
democracy and I and I want to own a
44:09
caution us because those are very bold
44:10
words if we have policy disagreements
44:13
let's focus on those policy
44:14
disagreements not only happy to discuss
44:15
those at any point but this is what I've
44:17
been getting at kind of all week which
44:18
is we tend to we tend to go right at the
44:21
jugular right we say you're undermining
44:23
democracy or a bad person fundamentally
44:25
that's not always true we have policy
44:27
with a lot of these things I think it's
44:30
interesting that we talked about some of
44:31
the most divisive issues including
44:33
immigration but the thing that set all
44:34
of you off was the president we have to
44:37
leave the conversation there thank you
44:39
so much so this morning Tina you know
44:45
she always gives me a rundown of what
44:47
she's seeing on Twitter and she said if
44:49
it was been her boy Ben who's had been
44:53
come at because this show on Fox
44:56
Ben Dan ben shapiro ben shapiro people
44:59
never show on fox he didn't yeah - oh
45:02
he's gonna be a fox regular shapiro
45:05
nobody likes him in Shapiro said that
45:09
interestingly Trump Trump's policies in
45:13
many ways are exactly the same as
45:15
Obama's policies but and this is his
45:18
words the Shapiro said and I know a lot
45:21
of people agree with him that because of
45:24
the way Trump says it that's why
45:26
everyone goes apeshit and I say no if
45:30
he'd if he did it the same way Obama did
45:33
it it would be even worse
45:35
press will be up in arms that he's doing
45:37
it secretly all this evil stuff in there
45:40
is no - there's no there's no way around
45:42
this style part of the presentation it
45:45
doesn't make any difference I agree with
45:49
you yeah I mean there is just such a
45:52
hatred of this guy yes it is they can't
45:57
do anything about anyways that's the way
45:58
it is what can they do
46:01
[Music] is what can they do
46:10
let's catch up to the Acosta situation
46:13
this is the Acosta up that's funny let's
46:15
get play Acosta update oops
46:18
misfired Acosta update this morning CNN
46:20
is asking for an emergency hearing this
46:23
is after the White House is warned that
46:24
they may pull our colleague Jim Acosta
46:26
stress paths again you thought this was
46:29
all settled last week well on Friday the
46:30
network won a temporary restraining
46:32
order forcing the White House to restore
46:34
Acosta's potentials for 14 days but just
46:36
after that White House officials sent
46:38
Acosta a letter saying they may suspend
46:40
his pass once that order expires you
46:43
know choose media correspondent brian
46:45
Stelter is with us so TR OS temporary
46:48
restraining orders by nature they last
46:49
for two weeks 14 days okay that's all
46:52
the time you have right CNN wants hear
46:56
the judge to move to a more lasting
46:58
decision but a separate injunction yes
47:01
CNN was victorious in round one I said
47:04
on Friday we don't know how many rounds
47:05
there's going to be looks like there's
47:06
going to be many rounds in this legal
47:08
battle do you notice that no one seems
47:10
to be giving any details the battle is
47:12
self because now almost as soon as that
47:15
temporary restraining order was put into
47:16
effect on Friday bill shine and Sarah
47:18
Sanders two of the defendants in the
47:19
lawsuit sent a letter to Acosta two-page
47:22
letter that I have here that essentially
47:24
lays the groundwork to take the press
47:26
pass and revoke it again which would
47:28
essentially be at the end of the month
47:29
you know for the 11 days from today yeah
47:32
yeah I really this is such a they're
47:36
such liars this is such a disservice to
47:38
the viewership to people who are
47:39
interested in what's going on and you
47:41
have to go you actually have to get
47:43
through the Wall Street Journal hey wall
47:46
to be able to read actually what's going
47:49
on yeah unless you know where to find a
47:51
you know docket and actual paperwork
47:53
well if you go to private browser
47:55
sometimes you have a brave actually is
47:56
quite good for this but I'm just saying
47:58
that no one seems to want to talk about
48:00
you know what the the restraining order
48:02
was about it was it was not a First
48:04
Amendment discussion you know they're
48:07
not even in that lovely great detail I
48:09
know I just want to make sure people
48:10
hear it again I want to make sure people
48:12
hear it again this was not a First
48:14
Amendment Cait Court okay a court
48:16
not yet at least but there's a solution
48:19
there is a solution
48:23
to this because this is this is unless
48:25
you have another clip than I'd like to
48:26
play a you I thought you'd I thought you
48:31
had I do some do read the by do thing in
48:33
front of your something I got no I have
48:35
a clip I have a solution clip the
48:37
solution to the issue of the White House
48:41
press events carl bernstein very famous
48:44
man he wrote he no he didn't write it he
48:52
the washington the the great uncovering
48:54
of watergate along with yeah well that's
48:57
been yeah man woodward yeah Carl
48:59
Bernstein who by that I put in the show
49:00
notes again who know has has published
49:03
on his own blog which still exists today
49:05
how many people of the press were
49:07
working for CIA including himself but
49:10
here's his idea it's it's a fix it will
49:12
save democracy we need to start thinking
49:14
of a different way to cover his press
49:17
conferences and briefings for instance I
49:19
don't think we should be taking them
49:21
live all the time and just pasting them
49:23
up on the air because they're basically
49:26
propagandist exercises because they are
49:30
overwhelmed by his dishonesty and lying
49:33
so how could we cover them differently
49:36
maybe we should be there edit decide as
49:41
reporters what is news and after the
49:44
press conference or briefing is over
49:45
then go with that story with clips
49:47
rather than treating the briefing or
49:50
press conference as a campaign event I
49:53
think this is a grand idea let's know
49:56
what we do let's couple no let's let's
49:58
combat propaganda with actual propaganda
50:02
of editing clips down and presenting it
50:05
in a certain light yeah you would love
50:07
that but he's gonna take it even further
50:08
because you know we can still keep
50:11
democracy alive through this thing
50:13
called them Oh what is it a website
50:16
which they really are in which we did in
50:19
the campaign as well we gave them all
50:21
this free airtime on cable news
50:23
especially we need to start treating it
50:25
like a news event and look in cable we
50:29
have websites you can put up to the
50:32
total press conference on our websites
50:35
that everybody has the chance to see it
50:37
or their briefing and we ought as long
50:39
as we can provide the spin doing it's a
50:41
matter of record and we can be the place
50:44
of record so everybody can see every
50:46
word if they want it but we need to
50:49
start editing yes here's the story not
50:52
just give him a microphone when we know
50:55
that his methodology is to engage and
50:58
manipulate us on the basis of lying
51:01
propaganda and a drip rock there it is
51:04
ladies and gentlemen what was his last
51:05
word propaganda I thought no we need to
51:11
search his ruffled ing properties to
51:13
engage and manipulate us on the basis of
51:16
lying propaganda and a drupe
51:19
rock-and-roll bathrobe prop tells and
51:23
throw props I thought it was had you had
51:26
your prop that's what I thought he said
51:27
agitprop at first but then I hear it
51:29
again it is something I never heard
51:31
never heard this word anthro pop I don't
51:34
know what he's saying I have no idea hmm
51:36
so he should put his words on a website
51:39
so we can understand what he's talking
51:40
about but but for this is the guy that
51:42
many of today's journalists will say oh
51:45
I got in I want to become a journalist
51:46
because I want to be like Woodward and
51:48
Bernstein and here he is advocating for
51:51
editing out any context and just here's
51:55
the story and we'll play you a clip and
51:57
it wishes I remember growing up we were
52:01
moving towards something very dangerous
52:03
it was called the news bite the sound
52:06
bite I'm sorry the sound bite news
52:08
reporting sound bite news reporting and
52:11
everyone recognized that is universally
52:12
bad and this must have been 15 20 years
52:15
ago maybe even a little longer the
52:17
longer and you know this is what it is
52:20
the the problem is the Internet has
52:23
actually given us the opposite of that
52:25
we can go to a website called gee c-span
52:28
and you can get the whole
52:32
everything in its entirety in context
52:35
and he doesn't like that
52:36
no he's but he's he not the bastion of
52:39
journalism let me not see the same thing
52:43
about him he wasn't even in the news as
52:46
a high profile character recently I mean
52:49
wasn't you know when in the sixties and
52:52
seventies but then he he guy he kept
52:55
seeing Woodward coming up with these
52:57
thick books he was getting screwed on
53:00
the whole deal and he wasn't getting
53:02
this action and so he chimed in as worse
53:06
he's like a left-wing fanatic and it's
53:09
it's fascinating to watch him go on and
53:13
on about one thing or another cuz all
53:14
very slanted
53:16
I just found this to be very disturbing
53:23
that that he would suggest that we have
53:25
to chop it up and just play clips and
53:27
pretty much I mean we know what that
53:29
means I mean would he say he's saying
53:32
you have to be it has to be uniike aunt
53:34
give him a microphone because I guess
53:35
the people can't parse what he's saying
53:39
themselves I mean that's what he's
53:40
saying I mean that's what he's
53:42
yeah you're too stupid to stoop you're
53:44
thinking wrong fort fort anarchic oh yes
53:49
yes yeah we're dictated for
53:52
dictatorships yeah
53:54
he's advocating for that yeah okay well
53:58
it's insane
53:59
coming from him well he's been kind of
54:04
all he's been kind of unhinged for quite
54:06
a while it seems to me they better go so
54:08
unchallenged while it seems to me they better go so
54:10
in a brine seltzer water sitting right
54:12
there oh yeah that's a great idea we
54:14
should do that yeah they're all the same
54:16
boat so we we can't let people decide
54:18
for themselves now this is why they want
54:22
two things yeah everybody oh yeah that
54:24
galls me a great president if it wasn't
54:26
for Twitter yeah it wouldn't be
54:28
president if it wasn't for Twitter
54:30
that's the point here I got the heyo she
54:36
is this her latest yes a civics lesson
54:39
we need a jingle we need a jingle civics
54:41
with aoc yeah to make sure that we take
54:45
back all three chambers is that is that
54:48
should we and if we work our butts off
54:51
to make sure that we take back all three
54:53
chambers of Congress rather than all
54:55
three chambers of government the
54:57
presidency the Senate and the House in
54:59
2020 we can't start working in 2020 okay
55:05
first of all there's something wrong
55:06
with your clips cuz I don't know what's
55:08
happening with the beginning but it's
55:09
like that was a mistake
55:11
yeah that's happened a lot lately no it
55:13
happened I'll tell you what it is if you
55:15
want to know yes when you start app I'm
55:18
pulling clips from the from the internet
55:21
as opposed to author the over quarter
55:23
that used to do it because it's more
55:26
efficient and it's not every clip but
55:30
everyone's on that clip which should
55:32
have been cut the beginning part that
55:33
you're bitching about should have been
55:35
cut out by me when I did the Edit on the
55:37
final clip and you wouldn't have said
55:38
anything there's some stupid reason I
55:41
exploited the entire audio file instead
55:45
of just to select it so that was my
55:47
fault yeah but it okay Ron I thought
55:49
your toy I know what you're talking
55:50
about when you're talking about because
55:52
I have left it in on a number of Clips
55:54
you guys I said yeah okay I hear it all
55:57
the time do you hear it
56:01
well let's just play a clip and see if
56:03
it's on there
56:05
all right no no let's not let's let's
56:07
deconstruct what she just said so people
56:09
understand what she just said so people
56:10
she says all let's just let's just take
56:13
it step by step
56:13
I want our non Americans and many
56:15
Americans themselves to understand why
56:17
this is so ridiculous coming from
56:19
someone who is in the House of
56:21
Representatives make sure that we take
56:23
back all three chambers is that is that
56:27
should we and if we work our butts off
56:29
to make sure that we take back all three
56:31
chambers of Congress okay so she starts
56:34
out by saying all three chambers of
56:35
Congress you can say Congress not the
56:39
Congress but you say Congress which is
56:41
made up of the House of Representatives
56:43
and the Senate I do not believe there's
56:45
a third chamber of Congress
56:47
there's yes there is there is a bathroom
56:54
commerce is down there in the basement
56:56
so now she corrects herself and she
56:58
correctly says I mean it's really the
57:00
three branches of government but she
57:02
tries to she tries to make it right by
57:04
saying the three chambers of government
57:06
I'll give her that
57:07
and the three I've always learned
57:11
branches of government which is the
57:15
judicial the legislative which is where
57:19
she is and the executive those are the
57:21
three this is something we learn when
57:23
were seven years seven eight years old
57:26
here we go you learn it real early or
57:29
just used to there were you used to I
57:31
don't think it's being taught she
57:33
doesn't ever learned it Chris all three
57:35
chambers of government the presidency
57:37
the Senate and the house in 2020 she
57:40
just kind of forgot she made the Senate
57:43
and the House of Representatives
57:45
two of the branches and just left out
57:48
the one she should be bitching out the
57:50
boast which is judicial
57:52
yes and she leaves this stuff up too
57:55
which i think is brave but this is going
57:59
to be a long as tell us he's not gonna
58:03
that let this continue I'm Shelley
58:05
they're gonna have a talk to her or
58:07
something she's gonna you know tell her
58:08
to stop this young lady has a
58:11
presidential future is what I'm gonna
58:12
tell you right now this person lives
58:15
have fun for the no agenda show know
58:17
this kind of person has an absolute
58:20
chance to become president
58:23
not because of this what she said just
58:26
the whole everything everything about
58:29
her people love her love her and when is
58:33
so easy to ridicule she has zero chance
58:36
of getting any further than she's gotten
58:38
okay she is a laughing stock beef that's
58:41
what they said about Donald Trump yes
58:44
they did so all you need is the media
58:47
which who are not covering her so that's
58:49
you know once that happens she has a
58:51
real good shot she has a real remember
58:53
people say well like this davin Eddie
58:55
wants to run for president or now who's
58:57
the latest guy this Bloomberg he's gonna
59:00
run for president Bloomberg he has
59:01
bloomed Bloomberg yeah and he is you
59:05
know the difference between two
59:06
celebrity against a celebrity running
59:08
for president if you take a look who how
59:09
many celebrities have been present we
59:11
have Reagan mm-hmm we've had Eisenhower
59:13
he was a celebrity oh yeah of course he
59:16
was he was a celebrity yeah I think yeah
59:18
you have Trump all these guys had a an
59:23
enormous amount of public profile yeah
59:26
before they ever became president mhm
59:29
in fact Reagan had as much before he
59:32
became governor of California which he
59:34
is had be out I think out shown Trump by
59:37
quite a bit because he was doing you
59:40
know the 60 mule train thing he was
59:43
doing these speeches he had a TV show he
59:46
was in the movies for years and years
59:47
and years and then he became he was a
59:50
head of the Screen Actors Guild is a
59:52
former doubt yeah that's right that's
59:54
right he's former Democrat and
59:56
Republican he's former Democrat and
59:58
by today's standards which is very
1:00:00
different today's media landscape is not
1:00:03
the same I would say AOC Alexandria
1:00:07
Ocasio Cortez is a big-time celebrity
1:00:10
for Democrats big-time big-time Jen
1:00:14
briny did you who has a level head on
1:00:16
her shoulders whoo-hoo dice who if she
1:00:20
heard these words come out of anyone
1:00:23
else's mouth including a Democrat she
1:00:25
would ridicule them because she does
1:00:27
congressional dish well how government
1:00:31
works she knows her civics she goes on
1:00:34
Twitter and says I love the
1:00:35
girl Wow love this girl so that's the
1:00:39
past you know it's it does not matter
1:00:41
what comes out of the mouth as long as
1:00:43
it sounds good that's it's just
1:00:45
ridiculous sounds good that's it's just
1:00:46
well that's murder what you're saying is
1:00:48
ridiculous it's sadly now back to the
1:00:53
celebrity thing Trump had this you know
1:00:56
this TV show that was a big head and he
1:00:58
was known forever I mean he's been
1:01:01
always on Letterman he made a lot of TV
1:01:03
appearances bragging about himself
1:01:05
mostly but he was doing a lot of work
1:01:07
Bloomberg you know does not have this
1:01:10
profile he does in New York he has zero
1:01:12
problems now he has no problem Berg news
1:01:15
service now but when you see him know
1:01:18
he's an annoying guy he's boring
1:01:20
glib and he's apparently very short well
1:01:27
not to say anything bad about people
1:01:30
that short this apparently Bloomberg's
1:01:31
like 5 1 or something like that oh my
1:01:34
gosh 5 1 or something like that oh my
1:01:36
petite now but your point yeah I think
1:01:38
your point is is well-made but in
1:01:41
today's world you don't have to be a
1:01:43
celebrity for very long you can't stay a
1:01:46
celebrity for very long if you're an AOC
1:01:48
because if you wears thin you're
1:01:51
basically an idiot
1:01:55
she is not a bright girl she has got big
1:01:58
eyes and a nice smile and she's
1:01:59
photogenic telegenic and she's excitable
1:02:02
yeah telegenic and she's excitable
1:02:03
so she's kind of you know attractive to
1:02:06
to the camera and people will follow her
1:02:09
just like they follow other people on
1:02:11
Instagram they will follow her and that
1:02:13
will love her for it and they will vote
1:02:14
for her when PewDiePie runs for
1:02:16
president then you're talking
1:02:19
alright look we don't have to agree I
1:02:22
think she is a definite candidate for
1:02:24
presidency in our lifetime she is a
1:02:27
celebrity and she is a modern-day
1:02:30
celebrity and as long as she has an
1:02:33
Instagram account will remain a
1:02:34
celebrity and people will love her for
1:02:36
it it's the it's the political version
1:02:38
of the Kardashians
1:02:41
it works
1:02:43
just that's just my opinion yeah I don't
1:02:47
think it's compiling thing is comparable
1:02:48
to previous job because she went door to
1:02:51
pretty much door to door condemning the
1:02:53
other guy was never even in the
1:02:55
neighborhood and it didn't get take long
1:02:57
for her to win that's not gonna work
1:02:59
yeah look I see the grand bull crap see
1:03:02
the thing is I respect what you're
1:03:03
saying you just can't say okay maybe
1:03:05
you're right you say you know I can't
1:03:07
because you're not right million times
1:03:12
don't give me that you've heard me say
1:03:13
well yeah you could be right as soon as
1:03:15
you make a good point
1:03:16
no when you're not is when it's not even
1:03:19
possible when you're not is when it's not even
1:03:21
not gonna give you the benefit of the
1:03:22
doubt gonna give you the benefit of the
1:03:24
idiot I will just remind you I'll go
1:03:27
back and I'll get the tape because we
1:03:28
have actual reel-to-reel tape of this
1:03:30
show and I will I will play you the
1:03:32
segment where I said Donald Trump is
1:03:33
going to become president and you save
1:03:35
now to become president and you save
1:03:37
dull cake you find that I'll be stunned
1:03:39
you got it moving on I would like to
1:03:42
thank you for your courage and say in
1:03:44
the morning to you John see you and the
1:03:46
C stands for can't be president Dvorak
1:03:52
nope and me huh they sing in the morning
1:03:56
I did I said thank you and I did all the
1:03:58
whole thing you didn't hear me no this
1:04:00
is where you say in the morning in the
1:04:03
morning in the morning in the morning at
1:04:05
a curry also in the morning all ships
1:04:06
you bootleggers I feed near some water
1:04:08
all the Dames nights out there best
1:04:09
thing in the morning to the troll room
1:04:12
that is no agenda stream calm where we
1:04:16
still have some trolls hanging out on
1:04:19
this Thanksgiving Day show Thanksgiving
1:04:22
Day show celebration good to see you all
1:04:25
here I think they have a meal tonight no
1:04:30
John I'm not cooking the meal because
1:04:32
you know I have to do a show because
1:04:36
you're not cooking a meal remember I was
1:04:39
somebody's cooking the meal yes it was
1:04:41
supposed to be me
1:04:44
in the morning to Darrin O'Neill just
1:04:47
stop knowing about it stop just stop
1:04:50
I'm not cooking the meal Tina's cooking
1:04:52
the meal because I'm not cooking the
1:04:53
meal because of you in the morning to
1:04:57
Darrin O'Neill who brought us the
1:04:58
artwork for episode 10 87 hippy humus is
1:05:02
how I pronounced it thank you to every
1:05:04
Jew in the world who sent me an audio
1:05:06
clip of how to pronounce pronounced
1:05:07
humus in Arabic or in Hebrew we're in
1:05:13
America here so I'll say hummus
1:05:15
you know me I got you're not pronouncing
1:05:17
comments right what are you supposed to
1:05:20
say home us come on oh yeah sir sir i
1:05:28
think she was at sir Brian of London
1:05:29
maybe I think every every Jew producer
1:05:32
we have in Israel and I'm saying it that
1:05:34
way specifically sending me you're not
1:05:36
pronouncing it right Mike
1:05:42
or would how do you say germany
1:05:44
deutschland course hummus well we say
1:05:49
hummus in the United States and we say
1:05:51
Germany we're the only our show says
1:05:53
Deutschland is kind of a gimmick
1:05:55
I want to thank Darren for his artwork
1:05:59
which there was a lot of things we could
1:06:00
choose from but it we really liked it of
1:06:04
course a lot of people had hippy hummus
1:06:06
as artwork so we went with no agenda
1:06:09
sports radio your number one resource
1:06:11
for sports news to you're changing your
1:06:16
whole attitude about sports sports
1:06:18
report today yes yes yes right yeah I
1:06:21
had another Sports report is fantastic
1:06:23
and I defended the sport and I I follow
1:06:27
and I report on and defended hey yes I
1:06:30
think you have every right to defend the
1:06:32
sport that you report on and thank you
1:06:35
to all of the artists who have submitted
1:06:39
artwork we use it for a variety of
1:06:41
things I think we may even have a little
1:06:42
note I think we got a note from the No
1:06:44
Agenda shop guys did you see that come
1:06:46
in no I'll have to see if it's in here
1:06:50
well they they're changing the way they
1:06:52
split the money because the way it works
1:06:54
is if you upload something no agenda art
1:06:56
generator com
1:06:58
if it's used for any of the no agenda
1:07:00
shop calm swag and goodies
1:07:05
oh shoot there you go Tony Cabrera
1:07:07
number one on the list he we can read it
1:07:10
verbatim there is do that right now
1:07:12
take our browsers associate executive
1:07:15
producer so 1088 leading to show 1089
1:07:19
which is 33 squared
1:07:22
33 squared so anything you can come up
1:07:25
with for a donation that represents 30 3
1:07:27
squared is welcome
1:07:30
tony cabrera to the 914 dollars in 96
1:07:33
cents it's a good amount ITM John and
1:07:36
Adam I finally got time to calculate
1:07:37
your latest share of the noise gender
1:07:39
shop comm profits after spending 10
1:07:41
hours this weekend calculating totals I
1:07:42
realized I had to modify the 33% which
1:07:46
by the way x squared is 1089 instead of
1:07:49
calculating net profits on each item
1:07:50
which which vary let's read this slowly
1:07:54
let me do it because I've already read
1:07:55
the whole note it's important because we
1:07:58
have this model where artists show and
1:08:01
the no agenda shop Tony I guess guys
1:08:03
they all split this and we have nothing
1:08:06
to do with that we believe it we don't
1:08:07
look at your accounting we trust it
1:08:09
you'd nine 1496 love it thank you very
1:08:11
much tears what's changing he says it's
1:08:15
important after spending ten hours this
1:08:16
weekend calculating totals I realize I
1:08:19
had to modify the three-way split model
1:08:21
of 33% for 33 for the show 33 for the
1:08:24
artist 33 for no agenda shop instead of
1:08:28
calculating net profits on each item
1:08:29
which vary depending on item size type
1:08:32
color and region ordered from and then
1:08:35
dividing by 3 the shop is switching to a
1:08:38
fixed royalty system it's not a big
1:08:40
difference but it is important to
1:08:41
understand for each item sold the show
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that are 33 cents this will literally
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definition of literally decimating but
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I'll we understand what you're saying
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Tony now I can simply count the items
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each artist sold and multiplied by 3.33
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then send that amount to the show and
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the artist and I think I totally
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so I'm okay with it but it is a change
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from the way it is pretty much can do
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yes he did not give anything to the show
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so are the artists technically no so
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very happy thank you Tony we love it we
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player from the early days or fun times
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with a great group of people is
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interesting to see
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how see here how as with much of the
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world history is being rewritten by
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those in the present to mold to their
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ones in other words the credit for
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podcasting is being taken over by a
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bunch of posers yeah well us how it goes
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it always goes that way with this
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donation I complete my knighthood
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but recent history hits the market I
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would like to be titled sir daddy cast
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cast I remember the daddy cast while
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giving this time of year seems
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appropriate to express thanks for what
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you do value for value this date also
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commemorates my oldest son's 18th
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birthday I think he's on the list music
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I don't know yes keep going would love
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to hear the full version of our ESP ICT
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at the end of the show and a too
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delicious to believe followed by don't
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eat me Hillary and that combo always
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cracks me up yes I'll do the short
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version I'll do the long version of our
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ESP ICT at the end and I do want to say
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that it is true that the history of
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podcasting is is just being hijacked and
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yeah Kees is a girl so I guess I want
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the earliest earliest of early their
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very early but I I didn't listen to the
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title of the show was fuck Adam curry
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so it's Keith in the girl I think
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invented podcasting so we have to be
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our ESPI seat it's almost too delicious
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to believe my friend you've got karma so
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much it's so stupid it's from pod that's
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from the pod show days a bit yeah oh
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yeah but I guess now the I'm I don't I
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don't I didn't listen to it I just
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listen to it no no that'd make him that
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you probably would do the friend
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Wow love that one of the better ones we
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have a balance show today we have three
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executive producers and three associate
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executive producers I think that's kind
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of very nice and the first one is Chris
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Stewart he did send an email and I did
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you didn't grab the email I do have it
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all right good good good
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boots on the ground it's okay here we go
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it's a long one mm-hmm
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good I'm not gonna read the whole thing
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because it's really long good afternoon
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John my apologies have forgot to put my
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and I've been man overboard or some for
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some time however today with the
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Canadian Post strike it will forego
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putting a check in the mail and make a
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donation using PayPal I made the
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donations over the holidays well how
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much was this donation forward 270 yeah
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right in this right to give you an
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adamant update on the outcome of the
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USMC a trade agreement now now he makes
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a long this is where I'll send you a
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copy of this yes does he have a
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conclusion I'm interested in a bullcrap
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so really it's just a rebrand just a
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rebrand well he says that the Derry
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thing is not a big win for either side
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grace I think I remember the oniy deal
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yes and he good with it is a long
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explanation you can I'll send to you you
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can read it joy you soak it into our our
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general knowledge base okay and if
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there's anything in there I think we
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should talk about I'll bring a report
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one final note another Canadian
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politician to watch would be our
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Minister of Foreign Affairs Chrystia
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Freeland she was our chief negotiator
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throughout the new NAFTA talks a Rhodes
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Scholar I might add that means she's a
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globalist she's one to watch as she
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plots her course within the Liberal
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Party her course within the Liberal
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if Trudeau and the Liberals go down in
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flames in 2019 we can expect her to come
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through unscathed a definite frontrunner
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in the next leadership race hmm feel
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free - there some are all of this note
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on tomorrow's show and we'll read it
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over the the dairy stuff and then we'll
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discuss it later now he would like
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douchebag call out
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yeah dude spec ball out followed by a
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prompt D douching feels he needs that
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you've been deduced Carmy says my
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brother Matt is still a douche years ago
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and hasn't donated for some time John
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the recent series of newsletters have
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been outstanding yes of course
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gimmick armor would be out of here yeah
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know okay just a karma you got it
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you've got karma
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Carrie Elena Latour and I think she's of
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the Lotterer Familia I know maybe you
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send us some of your wine and there's
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some bottles of look - yeah - are ours
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40 centuries in Nova Scotia
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her if she wanted anything special to
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commemorate her fourth decade I think
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when let me take Rosie this came in from
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her is Renee yeah it's her husband
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clearly isn't honey yes honey I asked
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her she want anything special to
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commemorate her fourth decade on the
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planet and all she wanted was go buy
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read that sentence again
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uh this donation may be on behalf of my
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smokin hot wife you gotta read it slowly
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this is a big deal
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fortieth birthday which was on the 21st
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which is yesterday I asked her if she
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wanted anything special to commemorate
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her fourth decade on the planet and all
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she won there was a no agenda producer
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credit there you go huh that was her I
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mean for was a joke comment in there
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it's just a fourth decade and she all
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she wanted was a no agenda producer
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credit wanted was a no agenda producer
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earlier with everybody jumping in on
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there's some administrative stuff of
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also be a celebrating Carolyn la tours
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birthday later on our segment
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[Music] later on our segment
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you've got karma we have malice of three
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Valentine being the last one two three
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four five six and he's from the UK and
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he just needs to fight he's a list
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he's the UK guy with a list what and I
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read the listen we can execute well
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actually the first one probably right
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off the bat is deduced C note to Adam
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entitled money-laundering yeah I read it
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he says we're right there's money
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laundering going on there yes thank you
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I appreciate you note and then he has a
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final F cancer card mr. comic for my
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friend Fiona Holliday you've got karma
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[Music] Fiona Holliday you've got karma
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all right nice balance list three
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executive producers three associate
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executive producers you are if this is
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and propagate him Allah is this we go
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out for your people in the mouth
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orange man bad
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Joe read that piece I sent you I think
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it's from 1983 New York Times are to go
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talking about the CIA and how they
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recruit out of college and where they
1:21:52
recruit and has all the colleges listed
1:21:54
hmm was it recent no yeah it was recent
1:21:57
was in the last few days less well not
1:21:59
yesterday but mm-hmm
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anyway they have all these colleges
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listed no I would have remembered I
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haven't seen it yet no yeah well go find
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it and read it because it's really good
1:22:08
for our spot to spook I think the name
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of the oh yes no I did see it come in
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but I we didn't tell everybody that I
1:22:17
spent almost two hours this morning just
1:22:20
trying to get Skype started on my
1:22:21
machine so and then it started by it
1:22:25
it's that was the scariest part yeah
1:22:28
this is welcome to Windows you should
1:22:31
tell that story because not the whole
1:22:33
story but just a face of short stories
1:22:35
that okay I've had it I've had it you
1:22:37
threw your arms up in the air and you
1:22:39
said I'm gonna have to use the Amsterdam
1:22:41
a rig which is just a smaller version of
1:22:43
what he's got and then as he started
1:22:45
hooking up the other machine got jealous
1:22:51
wait you're not gonna make that little
1:22:54
HP laptop compete with me mr. big Dell
1:22:57
desktop no there but it's a it's a cuz
1:23:01
I'm not the only one with this problem
1:23:02
Skype has for some reason people have an
1:23:04
issue where you start it and it crashes
1:23:06
immediately where you start it and it crashes
1:23:08
now I've had issues with Skype before I
1:23:10
left we're just it crashed remember
1:23:12
during the show and then it I couldn't
1:23:14
get it some battlin and then the mobile
1:23:16
rig exhibited the same behavior in
1:23:19
Amsterdam I was able to circumvent it by
1:23:22
disconnecting all USB audio devices then
1:23:26
starting it up then setting the devices
1:23:28
and this morning I only started this
1:23:31
computer been off all week
1:23:32
there was no update applied that that at
1:23:35
least didn't tell me any update was
1:23:37
applied just started up normal and Skype
1:23:39
would not start and I spent you know I
1:23:42
was like updating video drivers could it
1:23:44
be this could it be that and then I
1:23:47
called you and I I mean listen when I
1:23:50
call John and say I need Windows help
1:23:52
you know it's
1:23:53
bad it's bad it's really bad and so the
1:23:58
ultimate advice was a was just to run
1:24:00
the mobile Rick yeah and the man
1:24:02
absolutely as I was turning on the
1:24:04
mobile rig plugging everything in to
1:24:06
that all of a sudden Skype came back
1:24:08
though well I knew this was gonna happen
1:24:11
because you were cussing out the Machine
1:24:13
and these machines never sensitive
1:24:14
they're very sensitive you have to be
1:24:17
nice to them I guess you're right it's
1:24:19
like a car sensitive very sensitive
1:24:21
I bought a lemon you know they sell to
1:24:23
somebody else things fine it's not limit
1:24:25
at all so lemon for you since we talked
1:24:28
about Bloomberg I do want to and since
1:24:29
that they mentioned that one of the
1:24:31
schools that was mentioned in that
1:24:32
article along with Georgetown and all
1:24:35
these major you got to read this article
1:24:36
it's very funny but there's one of the
1:24:38
school's mentioned is Johns Hopkins as a
1:24:42
place where a lot of recruiting is done
1:24:43
mmm-hmm and so I read what got me into
1:24:46
this note that finding that article was
1:24:48
this was this piece here was Bloomberg
1:24:50
giving all this money to Johns Hopkins
1:24:51
for some reason he yesterday did
1:24:53
something extraordinary he gave 1.8
1:24:55
billion dollars to his alma mater Johns
1:24:59
Hopkins and he said that he did it for a
1:25:01
scholarship funds for financial aid for
1:25:02
people of low or middle income who he
1:25:06
doesn't want them to be saddled with
1:25:07
student loans after college as so many
1:25:10
people are and this means that they will
1:25:12
sort of forever be able to give
1:25:15
financial aid for a long long time to
1:25:17
their students so that's a wonderful
1:25:19
altruistic move is he running for
1:25:22
president in 2020 or what I think he is
1:25:24
running I think this particular
1:25:27
particular gift follows a pattern he has
1:25:30
given hundreds of millions of dollars
1:25:32
you can't go on that campus and look in
1:25:34
any direction and not see a building
1:25:35
that you know it's the Bloomberg Center
1:25:37
for this the woman which is all which is
1:25:40
all great I think this one's a little
1:25:41
bit different because it goes to the
1:25:43
idea that education should be available
1:25:45
to everyone I think the really
1:25:47
interesting thing about Bloomberg though
1:25:48
is not education it's his big issue is
1:25:51
climate change and there hasn't been a
1:25:54
politician that they've been able to
1:25:55
turn climate change into a successful
1:25:58
political victory
1:26:00
I mean Al Gore came close and a lot of
1:26:03
what he did came after the election but
1:26:06
I think that
1:26:07
what you're gonna see him move forward
1:26:09
on cuz that's what he believes oh well
1:26:11
he'll never never win with that
1:26:13
that's dumb yeah that's what he's doing
1:26:17
you know there was the evening before I
1:26:18
left there was a big talk show in the
1:26:22
Netherlands that nightly talk show on
1:26:24
the public broadcaster and I told you
1:26:26
these politicians in the EU are all just
1:26:28
getting jiggy with it because of the
1:26:30
IPCC report and this main the the
1:26:34
minister of infrastructure in the
1:26:36
Netherlands she has I don't know if
1:26:39
they've actually passed this yet but
1:26:42
she's saying we need six hundred million
1:26:44
euros to save us from dying from climate
1:26:47
change I'm paraphrasing but it's not far
1:26:49
off and so she's in this talk show and
1:26:51
people like oh yes and we have to do all
1:26:53
this for oh because you know yeah you
1:26:56
never know what's happening that's
1:26:57
either too much water not enough water
1:26:58
we have to sit would not get our
1:27:00
children were gonna die and there's this
1:27:02
older guy sitting across the table and
1:27:04
he just rips in joy says there's a
1:27:06
hospital that went bankrupt and people
1:27:09
you know we're wheeled out you know on
1:27:11
the streets to find other hospitals and
1:27:13
you want to give 600 million to this
1:27:15
bullcrap it was so beautiful to watch
1:27:17
and you've got because people are going
1:27:19
Walsh it that guy's kind of right you
1:27:21
know it's like all you're complaining
1:27:22
about we know the future and this
1:27:24
climate change but we got people
1:27:26
actually with IVs you know strapped to
1:27:29
their Gurney's on the streets trying to
1:27:31
figure out which hospital to be wheeled
1:27:32
to they're loving it but I don't think
1:27:36
the public will eat it I don't think
1:27:38
Bloomberg can get far with it either
1:27:39
it's just not a winning strategy
1:27:42
it's just that hasn't worked out a thing
1:27:44
for anybody you know well we'll see how
1:27:48
it goes he's not gonna get past the
1:27:49
debates cuz he's just not he's kidding
1:27:52
I don't think I've ever seen the guys
1:27:53
smile yes dower he's gonna have to stand
1:27:57
on at least two Apple boxes oh yeah you
1:28:00
know you really don't like him being
1:28:02
that short hmm no I don't care about it
1:28:06
being there so this was a running gag
1:28:08
that Letterman used to use oh I didn't
1:28:10
realize this
1:28:11
oh yeah the Letterman used to go on and
1:28:13
on about how short he wasn't he would
1:28:15
then he put his arm out you know like
1:28:17
how tall he wasn't any lower it lower it
1:28:19
lower it oh just keep doing this he keep
1:28:21
writing a Bloomberg height yeah of
1:28:24
course you won't do now I think
1:28:25
Letterman really got out of of the TV
1:28:28
business the the evening talk show
1:28:30
business right on time because the
1:28:32
political politically uncorrect nature
1:28:34
of him I think would have heard him
1:28:36
eventually him I think would have heard him
1:28:38
yeah probably I don't think he was Renee
1:28:41
love them yo so of course it is but I
1:28:43
just don't know if I don't I don't think
1:28:45
he would have been able to do the same
1:28:46
stuff would have been able to do the same
1:28:48
hell it's all right yeah it's all it I'm
1:28:51
happy to report it's the same in in the
1:28:54
Netherlands it's the same in the United
1:28:55
Kingdom it's all so it's just you know
1:28:58
it's a little different but it's all
1:28:59
your racist you hate women you hate Jews
1:29:02
you hate you know whatever it is
1:29:05
everyone's yelling everyone's just
1:29:07
yelling at each other were at the end of
1:29:08
civilization with the end I'm telling
1:29:11
you the same things acting was going on
1:29:15
in the 20s of course it's just you know
1:29:18
but this is not we have Twitter's it's
1:29:20
different it's never different now it's
1:29:23
different this is where we fundamentally
1:29:24
disagree on things yeah big time yeah we
1:29:29
do now this is something that we
1:29:31
probably agree on here's Mike Lee and I
1:29:34
got it turned on to this speech he's
1:29:36
give a speech at he's the wasn't Mike
1:29:39
Utah oh okay all right yes I got turned
1:29:43
on to the speeches give a speech to the
1:29:44
Federalist Society was people are
1:29:46
telling us win who was Mike Lee Mike Lee
1:29:49
you know him no but I'm asking for the
1:29:52
other people who happen to be
1:29:53
eavesdropping on the conversation he's
1:29:56
the senator from Utah
1:29:58
ah and he's a rat he's a very
1:30:00
conservative he was a never Trump er I
1:30:02
believe the guy who wanted to RIS is the
1:30:05
ex-cia was that a different guy
1:30:07
no no that's the guy who tried to run it
1:30:09
for Jimmy right yeah yeah okay and he
1:30:13
was running you'd been running against
1:30:14
Romney because Mike Lee is not in this
1:30:16
cycle okay so they said Mike Lee
1:30:21
predicts a civil war because of a bunch
1:30:24
of things and I looked at and he didn't
1:30:26
you know this was some hysterical
1:30:29
headline and so I went and listened to
1:30:31
the whole speech and it was bull crap
1:30:33
the headline was a lie but I got this
1:30:37
one clip out of here that I thought was
1:30:38
pretty good all right Mike sorry this is
1:30:41
Mike Lee talking about the economy our
1:30:43
economy is at full employment and it's
1:30:46
growing fast enough to distract us at
1:30:48
least temporarily from our 21 trillion
1:30:50
dollar national debt and our 800 billion
1:30:53
dollar annual deficit perhaps it
1:30:55
shouldn't be enough but for the time
1:30:57
being it is but my big concern is what
1:30:59
happens when the next bubble bursts
1:31:01
when the next recession hits when the
1:31:03
multitrillion-dollar debts accrued by
1:31:05
state local pension funds come due what
1:31:09
happens when next we face a genuine
1:31:11
international crisis what happens when
1:31:14
Treasury yield rates return to their
1:31:17
historic average and we see our national
1:31:19
debt service payments go from where they
1:31:22
are today which is about 300 billion
1:31:24
dollars a year which is not that much
1:31:26
higher than they were 20 years ago
1:31:27
when our national debt was what 1/7 of
1:31:29
its current size to where they'll go
1:31:31
within a couple of years after Treasury
1:31:33
yield rates return to their historical
1:31:35
average which will be around a trillion
1:31:36
dollars a year
1:31:39
yeah we're just waiting for the catalyst
1:31:41
aren't we I mean I'm pretty convinced
1:31:43
that it's gonna happen very soon
1:31:47
yeah we're waiting for the catalyst and
1:31:49
it's always gonna be in this never the
1:31:51
same so you can't look you use history
1:31:53
doesn't work with the market and you
1:31:56
don't and this always crashes slightly
1:31:58
different ways you might miss well death
1:32:02
is what right Horowitz and I kind of
1:32:05
thing well cold on fundamentally the
1:32:07
things that are really weird right now
1:32:09
is we have oil going down rapidly but
1:32:13
natural gas spiking up which is is weird
1:32:18
but it is weird but the natural gas has
1:32:21
been in a depression probably for about
1:32:23
a decade so it's going up under any
1:32:25
service has got to be miss is all
1:32:26
manipulated I mean the the price of oil
1:32:29
definitely manipulated but then who's
1:32:31
manipulating the natural gas I mean is
1:32:33
that look here's bottom line I think
1:32:35
Trump is out of his depth I don't think
1:32:37
he can bring this economy I don't think
1:32:40
he's got the momentum anymore that he
1:32:41
had it was really running on pure
1:32:43
adrenaline I mean just fundamentally I
1:32:48
know I can't I can't see it I really
1:32:50
can't believe that it's sustainable you
1:32:54
no of course nobody and I was said said
1:32:57
that five years ago and agree still
1:32:58
going well yeah but I'm not like the guy
1:33:03
I'm reminded of these guys there's a
1:33:05
bunch of locals or a lot of them were
1:33:08
writers and it became other things since
1:33:12
you know public relations guys but the
1:33:14
when there was the the boom not the
1:33:17
dot-com boom but the real estate boom
1:33:19
from probably 85 to like nine 2007 when
1:33:26
it collapsed there were guys brought in
1:33:28
way early going off this real estate
1:33:31
prices are too high it's gonna pop the
1:33:33
bubbles gonna pop and puns gonna pop
1:33:35
it's gonna pop and then they during that
1:33:38
oh that almost a decade of saying the
1:33:40
bubble is gonna pop if any one of them
1:33:43
would have bought any piece of property
1:33:45
they'd be millionaires but they kept
1:33:49
saying it's gonna pop is gonna pop it
1:33:50
yeah everything pops eventually and it
1:33:52
did pop and now it's recovered but
1:33:54
actually beyond where it was at least in
1:33:56
the some parts of the country which were
1:33:58
a lot of boom areas and you know I don't
1:34:02
know what's gonna pop again or not but
1:34:04
you can't necessarily stay out yeah but
1:34:08
so but you're looking purely a real
1:34:10
estate I think it might be
1:34:11
multiplication at the market I'm good at
1:34:14
the market more in real estate I'm just
1:34:15
saying reasons just exemplifying sure
1:34:17
this mentality where you just gonna pop
1:34:19
what's gonna pop it's gonna pop and
1:34:20
meanwhile it's going up and up and up
1:34:21
and you could have made some money if
1:34:22
you've just been in and got out if you
1:34:24
were nimble which important
1:34:26
unfortunately people I take did lot of
1:34:29
this back what I just said because
1:34:30
unless you're with real estate it's not
1:34:32
so much of a problem cuz it doesn't move
1:34:34
that much but with the stock market
1:34:36
unless you're in it daily
1:34:40
you know you're a day trader something
1:34:41
you can't get out fast enough you wake
1:34:44
up you go to work you come home in the
1:34:46
markets crash so that's just a small
1:34:48
percentage of the population I mean yes
1:34:51
of course you can make money speculating
1:34:52
on stuff but the the previous the
1:34:55
economic collapse you know that was it
1:34:57
was just such a perfect storm you know
1:34:59
people could not pay their mortgages and
1:35:01
that just dominoed all the way through
1:35:03
until we just had to create all this you
1:35:06
know fake money and give it to the bank
1:35:08
so that they could be good again we put
1:35:11
all the bad stuff somewhere else who
1:35:13
just did that some other country just
1:35:16
did that
1:35:17
I think it's Greece yeah Greece just
1:35:19
created a new special purpose vehicle
1:35:21
which has all the harm want hallmarks of
1:35:24
a junker you know it's got no wheels
1:35:26
doesn't go anywhere and they just it's
1:35:28
it's an accounting trick just I just put
1:35:30
the bad stuff in there and didn't we do
1:35:32
the exact same thing
1:35:35
kinda yeah so it would have to be
1:35:37
something like that now if it's slowed
1:35:40
by a thousand cuts like DHT unplug says
1:35:42
I think that's one hand it's not being
1:35:46
able to pay student loans that's pretty
1:35:47
big to pay student loans that's pretty
1:35:48
where's what 1.5 trillion that's pretty
1:35:50
big but that's the slow process of
1:35:52
people not paying back it's not really
1:35:55
like you know you you run out of money
1:35:57
and you go bankrupt now you're in school
1:35:59
you're still just you get them you still
1:36:00
get your your loaned not paying back
1:36:04
your loan while you're getting it I
1:36:06
understand but I'm saying the people who
1:36:09
are supposed to pay it back or hook or
1:36:11
crook are paying it back
1:36:14
since you can't get out of it so yeah so
1:36:17
where is Jim you know I think health
1:36:19
care has got to be the one that's that's
1:36:21
what's bankrupting people well I mean I
1:36:28
think doesn't I don't think it well
1:36:30
maybe it could be it's bankrupting me
1:36:34
well it's possible but it seems to be
1:36:38
yummy if you remember the 2007 and a
1:36:41
half this isn't boring people the 2007
1:36:43
18 remember that letters of credit
1:36:45
weren't being accepted yes yes holes
1:36:48
it's foreboding before that crash yeah
1:36:51
there wasn't there were more signals I
1:36:53
agree and there's not anything like that
1:36:55
going on which but then again before the
1:36:58
29 crash I've looked at it enough I
1:37:02
think I might be wrong
1:37:03
there wasn't anything or just crash it
1:37:06
happened and then every it bounced right
1:37:08
back but it didn't do it then it just
1:37:09
drifted to the bottom but when it
1:37:13
happened there was all these remember I
1:37:15
got the front pages of all these papers
1:37:17
Oh the front pages of all these papers
1:37:17
Giannini and a head of the Bank of
1:37:19
America this is just bullcrap there's no
1:37:21
reason this is ridiculous that this
1:37:22
happened there where is sound financial
1:37:25
condition every banker in the world kept
1:37:27
saying this and it was on the front page
1:37:28
of all the papers don't worry about it
1:37:31
we're in sound financial condition
1:37:33
everything's fine
1:37:35
well I already know what what the what
1:37:37
the history books will look like when we
1:37:40
look back on the huge crash of let's
1:37:42
just say 2020 just to make it and to
1:37:44
make it a fun number we look back at the
1:37:47
historic crash and the deepest
1:37:49
depression of all depressions ever
1:37:51
you'll see hipsters you know with ratted
1:37:56
tattered clothing dragging a half-dead
1:37:59
dog behind him and then they'll just be
1:38:01
nothing but piles of East Cooter's and
1:38:04
other dhoklas bikes everywhere that no
1:38:06
one can afford to use and they in the
1:38:08
companies all went bankrupt and can't
1:38:10
afford to pick them up exactly that's
1:38:12
what it's going to look like
1:38:15
it'll be the best of times in the worst
1:38:16
of times hey but at least we can get
1:38:18
somewhere cheap on a scooter if the
1:38:20
scooter still work yes
1:38:24
didn't find that boring actually I'd I
1:38:25
enjoy thinking about those things well I
1:38:28
know I don't enjoy what it could be but
1:38:29
thinking through it well luckily they're
1:38:32
talking about people trying to copy
1:38:33
their how we do business places Canadian
1:38:35
this from the CBC pair like Canada is
1:38:38
going to into the whole because of us
1:38:40
but it wasn't all about economics
1:38:43
tonight we'll look at the politics
1:38:44
involved the brakes to help some media
1:38:47
companies and we'll ask the finance
1:38:48
minister well it's all going to cost so
1:38:50
much because one thing is certain Canada
1:38:53
will be going deeper in the red for
1:38:55
years to come the following canonic
1:38:58
state will be focused on things like
1:39:00
competitiveness and the focus on drying
1:39:04
the benefit from the great trade deals
1:39:06
we've been signing and moving forward on
1:39:08
over the past years to do this the
1:39:10
Liberals have come up with more than 16
1:39:12
billion dollars in new investments and
1:39:15
tax breaks for businesses but that will
1:39:17
mean continued deficits remember that
1:39:20
promise to balance things by next year
1:39:22
well there is no balanced budget for the
1:39:25
foreseeable future all of this is
1:39:28
essentially a response to an unpredicted
1:39:30
unpredictable rather US administration
1:39:32
one with protectionist impulses low
1:39:35
corporate taxes and very deep pockets as
1:39:37
David Cochran explains it's clear the
1:39:39
Trudeau government has a lot riding on
1:39:41
the outcome like everything these days
1:39:46
bill Moore knows fiscal update is a
1:39:48
response to President Donald Trump one
1:39:51
series of measures to respond to us tax
1:39:53
cuts to encourage businesses to invest
1:39:56
in their own growth to create more good
1:39:59
well-paying jobs others to steer Canada
1:40:01
away from its dependence on the US
1:40:04
market just because we share a trade
1:40:06
agreement with the United States doesn't
1:40:08
mean we'll always agree with their
1:40:09
approach those are the goals here's how
1:40:12
the Liberals want to get there to stay
1:40:14
competitive with the US there are
1:40:16
billions in tax cuts for businesses to
1:40:18
help them expand and buy equipment over
1:40:21
the next five years a 100 percent
1:40:23
write-off for manufacturing and
1:40:25
processing equipment a 100 percent
1:40:27
write-off for clean tech investment
1:40:30
tripling the write-off for all other
1:40:32
business investments there's also more
1:40:35
than a billion dollars to diversify
1:40:37
trade a billion dollars to diversify
1:40:38
including cash to boost roads rails and
1:40:40
ports to get goods to Asia and Europe
1:40:45
but the Conservatives warned this all
1:40:48
comes with a big cost they are putting
1:40:50
our future in a reckless state of danger
1:40:54
by spending our tomorrow on there today
1:41:01
hmm our tomorrow now the funny thing
1:41:04
about this is the little thing they
1:41:06
slipped in which I thought was unique I
1:41:09
didn't realize how subsidized the media
1:41:12
is in Canada oh yeah
1:41:14
and the CBC I guess gets over it almost
1:41:16
a billion and a half dollars a year
1:41:18
which is a nice operating budget you
1:41:21
know the BBC is multiple billions
1:41:25
multiple billions but do parently gonna
1:41:28
go overboard and give almost a billion
1:41:30
to just just any old media company play
1:41:32
giving money to the media hey can we get
1:41:36
in on this I was covering the podcast to
1:41:39
Canada in an age when journalists around
1:41:41
the world are being accused of producing
1:41:43
fake news the Trudeau government has
1:41:45
decided to invest in local news nearly
1:41:48
600 million dollars over the next five
1:41:50
years to support media outlets
1:41:52
struggling with dwindling revenues it
1:41:55
includes a 15 percent tax credit to
1:41:57
encourage Canadians to subscribe to
1:42:00
digital news media and giving charitable
1:42:02
status to nonprofit news outlets to help
1:42:04
them fundraise but perhaps the most
1:42:06
important measure a new tax credit to
1:42:09
help cover the labor cost of producing
1:42:11
original news content locally Wow you
1:42:16
know the rebel you know them yeah the
1:42:18
rebel media this is a link from the
1:42:20
troll room but I open it up Justin
1:42:22
Trudeau is buying Canadian media they
1:42:26
say is buying Canadian media they
1:42:28
a key quest a key question that
1:42:30
renewables not getting any of the money
1:42:32
no a key well they say we're not for
1:42:35
sale now that's the debts their stance
1:42:38
so you're not getting any of the money
1:42:40
well they're saying they don't want it a
1:42:42
key question that remains unanswered for
1:42:44
now is which organizations will be
1:42:46
eligible for the new measures and which
1:42:48
ones will be excluded I think you're
1:42:49
right the government said the package
1:42:51
will aim to help quote trusted news
1:42:54
organizations yes let me translate that
1:42:57
into plain English there's an election
1:42:59
next year and if you're a journalist who
1:43:00
wants in on Trudeau's slush fund he has
1:43:04
to know he can trust you so no tough
1:43:07
questions for two doors cabinet no
1:43:09
embarrassing investigations
1:43:11
you must demonize any Trudeau critics as
1:43:14
bigoted homophobic or Islamophobic and
1:43:16
you have to promote Trudeau's policies
1:43:19
on everything from the carbon tax to
1:43:20
open border mass immigration so here
1:43:23
would be a fun test it wouldn't be too
1:43:26
hard for us to do just a little podcast
1:43:30
a weekly one where we pretty much do the
1:43:32
same stuff except we add a and then we
1:43:35
just and then we just do this we just
1:43:37
need two more oh yeah we just say hey to
1:43:40
those great a and then we'll say stuff
1:43:43
like man I can't believe anyone wants to
1:43:45
investigate them you can trust the guy a
1:43:47
we just do that and then maybe we will
1:43:49
get some money I think this is a plan
1:43:52
however on the other side what's
1:43:55
interesting if this would ever come our
1:43:56
way and we've and people never really
1:43:59
catch these explanations we do them all
1:44:01
the time why we are not a 501 C 3
1:44:04
nonprofit organization there's a number
1:44:07
of reasons for it yeah one which you
1:44:09
recently explained on the grime Erica
1:44:11
show which people should go listen to is
1:44:13
one of the most recent episodes but also
1:44:16
three one three if we signed up for that
1:44:20
we have to have a charter and we have to
1:44:22
stick to it and basically the government
1:44:25
would have some elements of control over
1:44:27
us correct yeah absolutely so
1:44:32
you don't want there's a lot more
1:44:34
paperwork and you got the IRS on your
1:44:36
back and there well yes I mean that's
1:44:37
what I'm saying so they can say well we
1:44:40
don't think you're really doing the
1:44:41
you're not really you know independent
1:44:43
or whatever you they could just say oh
1:44:45
you seem too one-sided so sorry that
1:44:48
can't have that yet Trump apologist
1:44:50
can't have no money for that no but I
1:44:53
did I read decry America got D
1:44:55
platformed from PayPal no I didn't hear
1:44:58
that I think there was why would they
1:45:02
ever do that would I think they're
1:45:04
pretty I love it I think I think I think
1:45:08
that I think it happened hold on a
1:45:09
second I don't think so okay well you
1:45:12
don't think you know have my opinions in
1:45:14
very high regard a let's see
1:45:19
they were suspended yes they were for
1:45:22
what okay
1:45:24