November 25th, 2018 • 2h 49m
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oh you've got to get one atom
curry
Jhansi Devorah this is your
award-winning Gitmo nation media
assassination episode this is
no agenda
in the clue do in the morning
everybody
hi Madame Curie and from
northern
Silicon Valley where we're
literally
fogged in I can't see the
Zephyr I'm
Jesse boy I can't play the
jingle then
either because it's
specifically asked
if you couldn't don't us hear
that horn
yeah I guess I guess I guess it
would
work I guess I guess I guess it
would
I can hear the horn how bad is
it they
honk it is this they don't
normally this
this Zephyr guy who drives it
this way
isn't honking a horn like a
maniac like
some of these Amtrak guys is
this a
normal occurrence for this time
of year
and in the northern Silicon
Valley area
it happens okay well we may
have had a
lot of fog recently just a
little more
unusual I mean it goes back
actually
harkens back into the seventies
there's
a cycle of fog oh yes when we
were all
going to die from global
cooling cooling
and fogged I had fun reading
the climate
report that came out on Friday
get a
hold of it all I know is I have
a report
yeah yes I have similar report
I think
we'll just the girl says yes
the report
just came out and I'm already
reading
through it she's already read
through it
it's okay I have the exact same
one plus
play US government is releasing
a major
highly anticipated and by the
way how
mean how mean to release this
when no
one is watching
oh stop why the US government
its NOAA
that brought this out no man no
man you
know who did that you know they
released
that on Friday so that no one
would see
it yeah I saw that I saw that
bullcrap -
but good sounds means they
really sound
frightening because there were
news is
there's no news so this would
get even
more areas yeah exactly sure
and I think
it did the US government is
releasing a
major highly anticipated report
on
climate change
I like the highly-anticipated
did you
even know it was coming out on
Friday
in fact it's being made public
right now
as we speak of this hour 2:00
p.m.
Eastern the congressionally
mandated
report documents the human
impact on
climate change and it's cost to
the
economy now it could contain
dire
threats that are at odds with
President
Donald Trump's own
environmental policy
and own pronouncements let's
get right
to CNN's Renee Marsh for
details she's
live in Washington so you were
able to
take a quick look at this
report it is
officially being put out in the
2 p.m.
hours so right now what new
details are
we learning right so hallo
you're right
I mean this report really
literally
about a minute and 40 seconds
ago what
the government report squarely
focuses
on the human impact of climate
change
for people here in the United
States
using real-life examples stop
watch yeah
are you kidding me
take through some of the quick
highlights that I was seeing in
my first
read here it says people who
are already
vulnerable is called the the
executive
summary which is the first page
which is
what all you ever read news
media both
including low income and other
marginalized communities will
feel the
impacts the most this report
goes on to
talk about the health impact the
economic cost and the impact on
transportation infrastructure
and it's
very specific
according to regions here in
the United
States as it relates to the
economic
impact the report
it's very specific according to
regions
regions of the United States I
think is
regions that that are making it
specific
she was the worrier bids is very
specific regarding regions of
the United
States perhaps but according to
Regis
the reasons are not the
authority that
are making it specific are you
upset
about this report that somehow
it's full
of crap I mean you're not
really gonna
try and deconstruct this piece
of crap
that basically just says we
agree high
likelihood there's nothing new
here
except there's nothing new here
extreme weather which you're
witnessing
right now we're all gonna die a
cost and
the impact on transportation
infrastructure and it's very
specific
according to regions here in
the United
States as it relates to the
economic
impact the report says that the
expected
the climate change is expected
to cause
caused substantial net damage
to the US
economy throughout this century
annual
losses in some economic sectors
are
projected to reach hundreds of
billions
of dollars by the end of the
century so
quite pricey that they also go
on to say
the frequency of severity in
allergic
illnesses including asthma and
hay fever
are expected to increase as a
result of
climate change more people will
be
exposed to things like ticks
carrying
Lyme disease mosquitoes that
transmit
viruses like Zika West Nile
virus and
dengue become more prominent
when it
comes to agriculture and our
food
sources it specifically talks
about the
Midwest and it says increases in
temperatures during the growing
season
season in the Midwest are
projected to
be the largest contributing
factor to
declines in productivity of US
agriculture and obviously that
impacts
not just people in the United
States but
as we export it impacts people
who rely
on our export as well I mean
this is a
lengthy report
that's pretty much the report
we're all
gonna die if we don't hurry up
immediately and do something
about it
there's similar report like
this like in
the 80s and I mean we did every
so often
on Twitter somebody digs up
some old
article from some time in the
past 10 20
years ago saying we're all
gonna die and
it's gonna don't do something
today
let's listen to CBS's version
of the
report the extensive federal
report
details how global warming from
the
burning of coal oil and gas is
impacting
each region of the country
researchers
said climate related events are
expected
to become more frequent and
more intense
but President Trump's policies
and
rhetoric often reject climate
change his
administration has rolled back
Obama era
environmental regulations and
promoted
the production of fossil fuels
though
we're getting out in June 2017
I was a
great little edit they did
there the
production of fossil fuels
though we're
getting out that's all it took
for us to
leave the Paris climate Accord
apparently 17 the president
pulled the
u.s. out of the Paris agreement
a pact
of nearly 200 countries to curb
climate
change nearly 200 countries to
curb climate
last month mr. Trump dismissed
global
warming on 60 minutes but what
about the
scientists who say it's worse
than ever
you have to show me the
scientists
because they have a very big
political
agenda and just this week
President
Trump tweeted about East Coast
cold
weather rioting brutal and
extended cold
blasts could shatter all records
whatever happened to global
warming
former vice president and
environmentalist Al Gore said
the
president may try to hide the
truth but
his own scientists and experts
have made
it as stark and clear as
possible gore
that I wanted to get because I
think it
was worded peculiar peculiarly
warming
former vice president
environmentalist Al Gore said
the
president may try to hide the
truth but
his own scientists and experts
have made
it as stark and clear as
possible okay
no sorry
well what is that mr. Bress
heard okay
what gory the gore has been out
there
saying oh it's not believable
they tried
to tried to hide this tried to
hide the
report it's his own scientists
if
anybody's trying to hide
anything it's
going his pressure group that
keeps any
alternative opinion from coming
on the
news the White House tried to
dismiss
the report saying it is based
on the
most extreme climate change
scenario but
JB it is worth noting the
administration
chose to release it today right
after
Thanksgiving on the busiest
shopping day
of the year yes oh my god hmm
here's
what's interesting of course I
went
through the report do we know
that it
was trumps no you know what
honestly I
don't care because every single
time we
talk about stuff like that I
get emails
and everyone's triggered and
they're
people getting sick actually
sick from
hearing the name Trump in news
reports
that we play the Rhino but
they're sick
people are getting sick and I
want no
part of it so I'm not so I
don't care I
don't care what I do care about
is that
they say in this report it is
going to
hurt poor people and
marginalized groups
poor people and marginalized
groups will
die sooner from this horrible
horrible
catastrophe that's taking place
the
crazy thing is is that the
measures that
were agreed to in the Paris
climate
Accord are being put in place
in Europe
in places like France and the
actual
people that these taxes these
carbon
taxes are supposed to save are
on the
streets burning the city of
Paris
because they can't eat anymore
maybe the whole thing's a
scheme to get
rid of the lower classes I mean
there's
a report after report of Paris
I'll play
one of them from CNN and no
we're not
for a moment
does anyone mention that the
hike in
fuel price is a is because of
the
implementation of carbon taxes
they just
don't even say it I want to
take you to
Paris now stunning pictures
coming out
of there protesters filling the
most
famous street in France the
iconic
sean's out is a with fire and
explosions
in a second weekend of protest
the usual
scene of tourists and Parisians
enjoying
cafes and luxury shops replaced
by
burning vehicles as 8,000
protesters
clashed with 3,000 police in
riot gear
the demonstrators who call
themselves
the yellow vests are angry over
rising
fuel prices now police used
tear gas and
water cannon in an attempt to
break up
these demonstrations CNN's jim
bittermann is joining us now
from Paris
Jim tell us why these
protesters are so
angry well I think it started
off as a
fuel protest a week if your
honor but in
fact over the last few days it's
generalized a lot really he
doesn't even
give us the truth why they're
angry
well that's CNN in fact he
sounds like
Norm Macdonald doing it people
are just
dissatisfied with a macron
government
his approval rating has dropped
I'm worried about the rising
cost of
living about pension payments
that
aren't really making ends meet
so it's
just a generalized anger about
the state
of the economy and of course
macro
imperson macro has vowed to
continue
forward on his his ideas of
reforming
the economy here Sophie and
what instead
of explaining what reforming
the economy
means the idea is a new Green
Deal it's
the the green economy that he
supposedly
kick-starting by penalizing
people do
you know price of diesel now I
now I'm
not sure if it's diesel or
regular
petrol one of the two diesel
diesel
whenever 30 30
before take contradicts your
report a
little bit come on went up 30
cents they
are now paying the equivalent
of seven
dollars per gallon seems a bit
high I
think people just had enough
and they
heard a lot of people say that
today you
heard a lot of people calling
for Mac
Rawls resignation now here on
the shows
that he say this is not the
scene you
would expect on the Saturday
night
following Black Friday you
would think
there'd be a lot of people out
in that
sort of thing people today were
protestors throughout the day
and only
about an hour ago it or so did
the
police make a move with an Asst
major
assault on the avenue here with
multiple
trucks and hundreds of police
to clear
away the demonstrators and for
the most
part they've succeeded there
are still a
few pockets of resistance along
here we
haven't heard from a colonel
all day until very late this
evening
when he put out this tweet he
said
thanks to all the law
enforcement you
expect that but he said shame
on all the
people who assaulted them shame
on those
who voluntarily assaulted
citizens and
reporters shame on those who
tried to
intimidate our elected
officials so you
have him taking a very kind of
professorial perhaps
paternalistic
challenge something that he's
been
criticized for in the past okay
I'd love
to hear your case first before
you play
in my tab which I believe is
from CBS's
so many more which they do
mention these
issues that you say CNN didn't
mention
mention I've never heard that
CNN clip
before I will say based on what
I know
I'm based on this other clip
than based
on what's really going on CNN
should be
ashamed of itself that's a
bullcrap
report all of them from CNN are
like
that every single one of them
it's
getting worse at that place why
are they
doubling down on this I don't
know see
here play this is a French fuel
tax
protest anger continues to grow
over the
country's rising fuel taxes
thousands
across France are also
protesting
president manuel macrons
administration
McCrone has defended the fuel
tax saying
there necessary to wean the
country off
fossil fuels least
Handley from our partners at
the BBC
reports I'm sorry just just I
don't know
if they come back to it in this
report
when he says the fuel tax is
necessary
to wean people off fossil fuels
that's
not quite the same as saying
it's your
carbon tax which I believe it is
so now is just saying it's a
disincentive is that is that
the message
this is anything but at least
are a
little closer to the truth here
then
your report which was shameful
a sea of
yellow the protesters in their
trademark
hy-vee's jackets on the shores
ELISA
[Music] jackets on the shores
ELISA
your sorties mean business -
using water
cannon and tear gas against the
thousands of protesters trying
to
prevent them moving down to the
palais
de la concorde and the
presidential
palace which has been cordoned
off
organizers bill this is act 2
in their
rolling campaign hold on a
second i read
everywhere that there was no
real
organizers that it was
something that
originated on the internet and
it wasn't
it was a new kind of protest
well let's
look at reality here with the
protest we
always have there are always
organizers
yeah it's just I saw report
after report
that there was no central
organization
it was organic kind of like our
spring
organisers bill this is act 2
in there
rolling campaign that angry
about an
increase in diesel tax
justified by the
government as an anti-pollution
levy but
the campaign has grown into a
broad
opposition against president
and manuel
macro this metal worker says we
feel
like we've been working for
years now
and it's just extortion while
members of
the government live like
princes it's
not even possible to live
anymore after
paying taxes says this woman I'm
disgusted I'm telling you if I
saw him I
wouldn't be able to shake his
hand and
I'd tell him exactly what I
think some
here have been ripping up the
street and
trying to build barricades
but as protesters let off
fireworks the
authorities have the power to
move them
on before we talk about this I
have a
similar report from euronews
with men
honest men and women on the
street which
kind of fills this in and I
think it'll
make sense for and before you
go there I
want to mention what you're
going to do
is promote the idea that the
nonsense in
the report that came out here
that it's
going that if we don't do
anything it's
going to hurt the lower classes
yes this
is evidence of what's where
they are
doing stuff and it's hurting
the lower
classes because they're doing
this and
that was exactly like a very
tense day
on the shows a nice day in
Paris clashes
erupted between police and some
yellow
vests authorities used water
cannons and
tear gas for several hours in
order to
counter the most radical
protesters
while many regret these
incidents others
believe these methods are the
only way
to be heard by their government
interesting how every single
report
regardless of organization has
that one
explosion in it that your clip
had it I
had a clip with the explosion
this is
the second clip with the
explosion they
just edit it right had the
explosion
yeah I think there's one
explosion and
everybody used it just put it
in as a
little little
honestly what they think
they're doing
there are certainly some
rioters but
we're not responsible for that
we're
just here to be heard the
problem in
France is that we don't have a
choice if
we want something we need to
fight for
it want something we need to
fight for
they don't listen to us anymore
Emmanuelle McCall was the main
target of
the thousands of yellow vests
gathered
this Saturday but apart from the
president the whole French
political
class is criticized by the
demonstrators
I'm demonstrating because it's
not
possible anymore unretired and
we can't
make ends meet anymore it's not
possible
and I don't understand why the
members
of parliament the senators have
all
these privileges we don't
diminish their
salaries who do they think we
are
Society is that why our
ancestors fought
I love this guy he translated
the French
guy we the dogs of French
society yes
is that why our ancestors
fought but you
what started off as a movement
against
taxes on fuel morphed into a
larger
gathering against other types
of tax as
well as to denounce the cost of
living
in France and social
inequalities but
without the central structure
nor
official representatives the
yellow
vests seemed divided over what
to do
next before in the Samba seat
when we
need a citizens assembly
citizens need
to make the votes referendums
we're the
one now that we've started
rising up we
need to step up the movement
macron
won't stop until we face them
with a
general strike clearly ah there
it is
that's what's coming next
general strike
and so it's clearly there's a
little
more going on than just the
fuel price I
would say migration maybe
working some
people and just the overall
economy in
general and just the overall
economy in
just a couple of things I find
interesting about this which
isn't it's
covered a little bit but it's
not
covered well here one is they
call it a
pollution tax don't love that
yes when
we would tell my carbon
pollution carbon
tax now is maliciously used as
terms
because this and it should be
carbon
carbon dioxide but they've just
moved
that to carbon just to make it
yes
narbon dioxide tax yes is like
you don't
drink soda I like the idea of
these guys
wearing these yellow kind of
Street
workers vests now this is a
mandatory
item if for your automobile in
France so
is it yes you must have a yellow
emergency vest in your vehicle
at all
times that's not a bad idea I
think I
don't know if it's mandatory in
Britain
but I know pretty much
everybody has
that I should do that here but
I like
the idea of everybody wearing
these
things idea of everybody
wearing these
well what's cool about it is
you could
create a global movement of
yellow vests
yellow jackets whatever we want
to call
it like yellow vests is a vest
and this
is happening now I think it was
happening in Belgium I believe
somewhere
in the south of the Netherlands
this was
happening and people are
putting on
yellow vest it's small so it's
not it's
not you know - this proportion
yet it's
not on the show um cities a
with the Arc
de Triomphe in the blood
there's stuff
they're showing on CBS there was
thousands and thousands of
people with
his yellow vest yes exactly but
I'm
saying the ones in in other
parts of
Europe are starting to do the
same thing
yellow vests mean is is
happening I
think it's a good one yeah that
was you
didn't get to see because it
was pretty
visual they just kind of
mentioned it
and passing in the CBS report
was the
fact that they're literally
digging up
the street yes
I know it's great well yeah so
but they
have a little more power there
I mean in
the United States is actually
punished I
think is a felony and it's
punishable by
all kinds of horrible things if
you do
it if you even advocate a
general strike
is that the strikes are illegal
in this
country is that so oh yeah we
can't have
a general strike in United
States okay
go try promoting want to see it
but what
happens - knocks on the door
huh that's
illegal isn't that freedom of
speech
can't I say whatever I want you
talking
to the wrong guy
[Music] the wrong guy
well that's something it needs
to be
looked up uh you can look it I
think it
began I think it was either
under the
roses I think maybe the
Roosevelt
administration is the one who
promoted
that because they were having
so much
trouble with the longshoremen
and some
of these really powerful unions
we used
to have hmm
but yeah general strikes are
know you
can't do one you can't call one
in a
local area they're thinking
about this
in San Francisco some years
back over
some something some complained
and
didn't get first well you need
a general
strike if it's labor unions who
are
organizing it that's that's
what you
mean by a general strike if it
was a
general strike is where
everybody stops
working strike is where
everybody stops
yeah but you say it's illegal
to to
organize that or just illegal
to stop
working I'm not quite sure with
thee
it's illegal to organize it
right but I
think it's illegal to organize
it if you
were a union not if you're Adam
curry
podcaster no I call a general
call for a
general strike
please bail me out
I need to look this up I'm not
sigh
sounds general strikes just
look up
general strike I'm trying to
find that I
cannot find anything that says
it's
illegal a general strike is
illegal Utz
I can only find it in
combination with
the NL NLRB the National Labor
Relations
Board their section 8 prohibits
that the
general strike organized by
labor
organizations but I'm not so
sure I mean
I can organize anything I want
well it's
possible that that if you
weren't in a
labor union and you organized
the
general strike you might get
away with
it but far as I know well for
one thing
that's never gonna happen
mm-hmm but yeah we'll look into
will
report further interesting
but yeah I don't think it will
happen
but it's just it's interesting
to me the
disservice that everyone's
getting here
is like you know this report is
being
touted as oh my god it's gonna
hurt all
the poor people but the exact
same
recommendations that are in in
the
United States congressionally
mandated
report are the ones that people
are
riding over in France
weirdly some of them yeah
that's not the
elites that are rioting
no no but French do have this
odd
history of chopping people's
heads off
that they did they take their
their
protests pretty seriously yeah
so yeah well they put it seems
as though
they get to a boiling point and
just go
nuts well there's one other one
other
thing that may be playing into
playing
into all of this and it's
something that
is not reported
at all here in fact I haven't
heard much
of it only in the Netherlands
that I did
it get my attention this is the
Global
Compact for migration
which of course you know
neither of us
had heard of this this oh no
we've heard
we've we talked about this some
time ago
this is a while back right but
but it's
it's now been agreed to this
thing past
and what that means is it's
just it's
just an agreement it's not
legally
binding except in multiple
Europe
European countries including the
Netherlands in there in their
constitution that ground laws
as they
call them the you know the bit
there
basis laws it's clearly states
I think
it's article 94 that any
European
agreement or treaty supersedes
national
national laws and people in the
Netherlands are very upset
about this
okay expecting well I'm telling
you
they're in the EU but here's
here's what
the compact says refugees and
migrants
are entitled the same universal
human
rights and fundamental freedoms
which
must be respected protected and
fulfilled at all times
however migrants and refugees
are
distinct groups governed by
separate
legal frameworks only refugees
are
entitled to specific
international
protection as defined by
international
refugee law this Global Compact
refers
to migrants and presents a
cooperative
framework addressing migration
in all
its dimensions I could go
through every
single article and what this
came up in
the conversation because Trump
refused
to sign on to this commercial
agreement
and there's a big stink about
it yes and
then kind of passed by and that
we've
long has forgotten about it now
it's
back in the news I guess
because other
people are starting to look at
it yeah
and this is the United Nations
compact a
part of the 2030 agenda for
sustainable
development and of course it
says that
because of natural disasters
the adverse
effects of climate change and
environmental degradation we
will see
huge migration they keep
promising this
and the entire idea is when
people are
on the move you sign up to the
compact
and you basically can't stop
them from
coming into your country
and that's what people are
worried about
and again not mentioned in any
of the
reports about Paris I think
that also
may have something to do with
it I don't
know about French law but you
know as
you point out slike base United
Nations
they all sign on to it or not
everyone
who signed on yet actually but
once
you're in then you're in and
then you
got to let it happen so you
know this
this migrant the migrant issue
is a
problem migrant the migrant
issue is a
well it seems to be a yes it
will curse
the compact will ensure
migrants working
in the informal economy which
is not
defined in this document but I
guess
that means running drugs
hookers black
cabs sure migrants working in
the
informal economy have safe
access to
effective reporting complaint
and
redress mechanisms in case of
exploitation abuse or
violations of
their rights in the workplace
in a
manner that does not exacerbate
vulnerabilities of migrants that
denounce such incidents and
allow them
to participate in respective
legal
proceedings whether in the
country of
origin or destination so you
can start
shit before you even roll yeah
this is
really it's really quite quite
stunning
this document develop
procedures and
agreements on search and rescue
of
migrants which now is happening
is you
know nongovernmental
organizations are
doing this they're actually
going as
close as they can to for
instance Libya
off the coast and pick them up
save them
there and bring them back the
primary
objective of this is to protect
migrants
right to life that uphold the
prohibition of collective
expulsion
guaranteed due process an
individual
assessment enhanced reception
enhanced
reception what is it what is it
directional antenna enhanced
reception
and assistance capacities and
ensure
that the provision of
assistance is an
exclusively humanitarian nature
for
migrants and is not considered
unlawful
and I put the thing in the show
notes
and I'm gonna go take a look at
it but
you get the gist and the Dutch
are very
at least the ones that will
email me
about it now seem to be very
concerned
about this
should be yeah
is interesting at the same time
when
Hillary Clinton and I have that
clip
with her interview in The
Guardian I
don't have her talking but I do
have the
report okay yeah where is it
yes it's very interesting that
this
comes into play the minute we
have this
Global Compact coming into
vision and
this is what she tells The
Guardian
Hillary Clinton has called on
European
leaders to curb mass migration
to the
continent to curb mass
migration to the
she says it's helped spread
right-wing
populism in an interview in the
British
newspaper The Guardian
published today
the former Democratic
presidential
candidate and Secretary of
State warned
if we don't deal with the
migration
issue it will continue to roil
the body
politic it will continue to
roil the body
she said it lit the flame for
racist
political ideologies in Euro of
course
Clinton's comments sparked
outrage and
confusion from immigration
activists and
European lawmakers who cited
her long
track record of welcoming
immigrants
yeah I'm not quite sure how
that all
works it was very very strange
and then finally Serling did he
at the
end he says if you find old
clips of
heard bitching about the
Mexicans coming
across the border horse of
course so
there's no consistency here but
this you
know if she's gonna play the
game of
being a progressive neoliberal
even
though there's some self
contradiction
there she has to stand one side
of the
fence with the other she can't
be saying
stuff like this
yeah I'm not sure I'm not sure
and
infused John Kerry was also
quoted in
some European publication
saying similar
stuff like uh-huh
very odd maybe maybe these
people still
think that when they do an
interview
overseas that we don't see it
here is
that possible that they did
that dense
that's your long-standing
theory maybe
it could be could be hmm
okay yes that I don't have much
more
from from Euro land yeah I
think I have
something else um oh yes I do
actually
I'm sorry it's a short clip you
know I
have several friends in the
United
Kingdom and they always like now
whenever there's a mass
shooting they
always like to send me a link
and say
how are those guns working out
for you
and I'm not kidding they love
doing that
me laughs the Brits in
particular knife
crime is at an all-time high
particularly in London you know
four or
five people stabbed today many
fatal
okay now find but the latest is
this i
love this and i think the the
police you
know the British police famous
word back
in the day the bobbies never
had didn't
digit a club Club and a helmet
didn't
have any weapons that's changed
and now
we have this new issue
people swiping mobile phones
while on
their moped so of course it's
easy prey
because you know as we know
everyone's
on their minds on their phone
holding it
the hell they're walking around
they got
two of them it's very easy to
grab that
so along comes a moped BAM
grams grab
your iPhone your you know $1300
handheld
computer and now the police
have figured
out a way to go after it it's
too bad we
don't have video for once on
the show
but you'll get the gist of how
they are
going after these moped their
cellphone
robbers London Metropolitan
Police are
tackling criminals on
motorbikes in a
new way specially trained
drivers are
using police cars to knock them
off
their two wheels or they're
forcing them
to crash Scotland Yard has
released this
footage showing how they're
pursuing and
ramming into the thieves senior
officers
at Scotland Yard
say there's no maximum speed at
which
police vehicles might hit
motorcycles a
judge says the policies for
officers to
assess the risks of a
particular chase
and make a judgment accordingly
police
say it's a miss that they won't
chase
riders who have removed their
helmets it
comes after thousands of mobile
phones
have been reported stolen by
people on
scooters nice and the video is
fantastic
there rear-ending these guys
and they
had like rear end someone on the
motorbike and the guy flies
over the
hood of the cop car they brake
he slams
off is fantastic yeah no yeah
no yeah no
there is I've seen this is
pretty funny
right and they're hitting it
from this
guy and it could cop in a car
cuz a
boring job anyway generally hey
there's
a moped guy go run him over I
cannot
imagine that wouldn't be not
that would
not be accepted in the United
States
I can't imagine no way I don't
think
anyone would say that's okay
now I'm
sure somewhere along the line
these
idiots decided that if they
took their
helmet off and throw it out you
know
throw it right and it seems to
me with
that kind of it that
set up the cops would say
here's a guy
with no helmet get him yeah
yeah exactly
no it's fantastic just fantastic
yeah he's you know I think we
may see
more crime with these East
Cooter's
wasn't there an article about
some guy
who escaped the cops on one of
those at
Bird bikes on the East guter the
electric scooter dad this I
missed yes
well actually had an interesting
Thanksgiving conversation with
some of
the Millennials here and there
was a
point I hadn't thought about is
with all
of these electric scooters and
just if
you don't know I'm talking
about us like
the kids you know step along
scooters
that are motorized these things
are
being created and built at an
incredible
rate that just being pumped out
they're
all built in China they have
huge
lithium-ion batteries either on
the
front post or underneath you
gotta ask
how long will it take before
Mundy's
turns into essentially a flying
bomb
this is explode you hit
something hard
enough you'd Ministry's have
this
tendency if you're poorly made
then if
you disrupt them with a with
you know
some kind of impact I don't
know 15 to
20 miles now or should probably
do it I
think we'll be seeing these
reports
pretty soon
yes misprediction yeah and it
should be
a terrorism threat
really yes I think it should be
a
terrorism thing I think these
easy
scooters are terrorist devices
Black Friday yes I have a clip
if you
want to intro it with sharing
with the
clip PBS the Black Friday
report yes I
would like to do that millions
of
Americans spent this Black
Friday
swarming stores and scouring
websites
for deals the retail data firm
shopper
track estimates today's sales
will hit
twenty three billion dollars
that's up
more than two billion dollars
from last
year across the country
retailers saw
the annual rush of shoppers
bursting
through their doors before
sunrise
scrambling for discounts the
vents took
a violent turn near Birmingham
Alabama
an argument between two men at
a mall
there ended in gunfire police
shot and
killed the suspected shooter an
eighteen
year old that a 12 year old
bystander
were wounded now I tried to
look around
to get some video your typical
Thanksgiving Day footage and
there were
I didn't see didn't seem like
there any
big records of people you know
trampling
each other just didn't have the
same
vibe as it used to oh we had a
lot of
good the same vibe here I
didn't get it
horse here didn't get here
mostly is off
it's you know people are all
doing it
online this year doing it all
online
shopping online though that's
the
reports I got no reports was
the same as
usual when they said it was up
two
billion which is a lot which
should
actually help things but my
favorite
thing which I didn't think got
enough
fruit care of news I put a
picture in
the newsletter of the free
shipping of
the guy dressed in a bear
costume that
get more coverage I don't know
the guy
in the bear costume so it looks
like a
cuffed polar bear you know I
think that
the Black Friday has gotten to
a point
in the US media where every
report is
probably sponsored it's like
they have a
choice of going anywhere and
they might
as well say hey everything is
good over
here well say hey everything is
good over
I'm looking to come look at
Walmart or
what it just seems like it's
native
advertising at this point you
know I ran
into a native would ie after
after the
fact I did this research there
was a in
Atlantic and people can look
this up if
you like if you like southern
cooking
and you can't could do a decent
biscuit
there's an article on why we
can't
good biscuits and it refers to
specifically soft red wheat
from the
South that is sold as
all-purpose wheat
and self-rising wheat the kind
of wheat
they sell by these various
vendors down
there it is different than the
northern
wheats which will not make a
decent
biscuit we listen to a long I
was still
on Black Friday what are you
doing no
I'm going on that gone Black
Friday in a
roundabout way I'm gonna just
reasserting a point you just
made
ok about native advertising
you said to reiterate that it
seems as
though all these reports aren't
really
about like Friday they're about
some you
know and I think this has been
true for
a few years because they talk
about
Kmart and all these other you
know
Walmart did you find another
one of
those secret shopper stories
you know
the secret donor who donated
they always
do that not find that sir but
let me
finish my I since I started a
biscuit
story should finish it so at
the end of
the article they go on and on
about this
one wheat lily-white
made out of some southern state
completely ignoring because I
did some
research afterwards and I found
about
ten of these companies that
made a soft
wheat flour in the South in
Kentucky and
elsewhere but no she has this
one and
then she says and it's only
available on
Amazon and I'm reading this
thing and
thinking about the fact that
you know
all these other products that
you can
get directly you can buy you
can you can
look it up and you can find
guys wait we
didn't Myers or some company in
Kentucky
seems like a good deal cheaper
and
better and it's got a long
history from
the 1860s but this was like I'm
reading
this it seems like a real
article about
something and then it boils
down to
Amazon's the only one who carry
is that
you have to buy from them I of
course
and I'm thinking this is
ridiculous
there's no I just was very I
was very
orchitis no I just was very I
was very
yeah people are going to be
very sad
once they figure out that
Amazon has
taken over everything there no
more
local retail shops mom-and-pop
is dead
literally retail shops
mom-and-pop is dead
it's gonna be it's gonna be
upsetting
that I think that we in looking
at
Google as the true evil Corp I
think
it's Amazon Amazon is probably
a lot
more evil than Google well at
this point
I'd say yesterday now Black
Friday I'm
is Lu's gonna stop using him oh
I'm I'm
really trying to diminish my
use it's
very difficult when you send me
links to
the SSD drive where else would
you get
those products that's what I'm
saying
it's very hard it's already
very hard
but I I do try I do try to I'm
failing
but I try I tried to get stuff
at other
outlets online but it's hard
you know
it's it's it's the the
800-pound gorilla
now back to Black Friday so as
far as I
understood from the reports we
had one
[Music] from the reports we had
one
one fatal shooting yeah sounds
about
right fatal shooting yeah
sounds about
let's see how everything was in
in
Europe where we also have Black
Friday
and they also reference another
holiday
which people called me out
before your
place can I mention one thing
when I was
there last year they were
having Black
Friday cuz I was there then in
London
and I was quizzing people about
this is
what what is what is you don't
have
Thanksgiving how do you have
Black
Friday and they all told me
everyone
said this it's Amazon has been
promoting
it interesting that's not what
this
report tells us from euronews
for
today's power-play it's all
about the
backlash against a very American
phenomenon which is growing in
Europe
backlash against the American
phenomenon
backlash let's take a look
[Music] let's take a look
Black Friday
it might just drive you to
despair
bargain mad shoppers literally
falling
over each other just to get 40%
off a
television the American
phenomenon is
linked to Thanksgiving and even
though
Europe does not mark this
holiday Black
Friday has been creeping onto
its
continent in recent years with
sales
increasing by 32 percent in
Europe last
year but not everyone is happy
about it
in France Greenpeace has
launched a
counter campaign calling on
Europeans to
ditch the park and fueled chaos
in favor
of getting active and spending
time with
family and friends so you're
gonna hear
this little panel discussion
between a
couple people I think one is is
from
Sweden people I think one is is
from
maybe Sweden or Finland can't
remember
yes so you have to get
interaction for a
second so they really kind of
like the
whole idea that you know
they've got
these sales are going up and
that's good
for the economy but it's an
American
thing so it's you know
inherently
disgusting it's just it has
Americanism
all over it it's just so we're
going to
do it a little different we're
not gonna
be as crazy as them of course
you're
only just getting started I
think that
first image and capture that's
what back
Black Friday is you know
there's there's
you know again we're talking
about
messaging so you were shaking
your heads
when you were looking at that
is it you
know is it a good thing about
thing
Black Friday itself well it's a
good
foil wallet but it's flat bad
for the
planet we are already consuming
1.5
planets we are already
consuming 1.5
every year this is a statistic
I didn't
know existed did you know we
are already
consuming 1.5 planets every year
what is she talking about the
and I
looked this up the assertion is
that
this last year or this past
year we
consumed more minerals than
then the
planet actually can provide to
us it's
like a global warming statistic
is what
it is
it's except about climate it's
about
minerals like oil yes thank you
its peak
products is what it is for the
planet
we are already consuming 1.5
planets
every year and so we really
should think
carefully year and so we really
should think
I don't it might be the
translation that
makes it funny consuming 1.5
planets but
it's bad for the planet and we
are
already consuming 1.5 planets
every year and so we really
should think
carefully what to buy and buy
quality
and of course could prize
impossible but
not just to Russian by anything
American
is do you think that's
something that
people think about especially
where
grant companies are getting more
Global's for their mobile
approaches we
can think about Halloween for
example
that was kind of introduced to
Europe
yeah you know I got people
telling me it
was bullshit that the Halloween
is not
true it's not happening in
Europe it's
even happening in France I
think that is
balanced is to try to use a
phenomenon
to promote products then
there'll be a
response of society which can
be that
harsh but also I think
imbalance will
happen but also I think
imbalance will
but very quickly Laura should
there be a
different messaging when it
comes to
Black Friday in Europe no I
don't think
so I mean I think that if it's
going to
work it will work on the same
basis a
different messaging don't buy a
lot but
by responsible wishes that
everybody
likes a bargain I mean I'm half
American
and I've actually just come
back from
the States and I was there for
Halloween
and I can assure you that even
while
people go a bit crazy for
Halloween here
it's nothing like in the States
so even
if we get that far away it's
not gonna
be like it isn't just go do
dials there
you go there you go maybe the
sale is
actually quite good that a
bunch of
haters haters who really in
haters
they're trying to make Black
Friday more
of a you know a social
experience
you know it's about press about
sales
and deals and everyone knows it
you
can't pretend that it's not
so these retailers can get in
there and
balance the books yes this move
is an
inventory turn what I saw I
won't forget
was some mini documentary on
Black
Friday and it has had different
meanings
throughout the years there was
a Black
Friday when it would end the
depression
and there was it yeah of course
had a
whole different meaning there
were there
were different Black Friday
interpretations throughout the
ages
going back you know decades but
now the
Wikipedian on shopping the
Black Friday
word it had to do with stock
market
crashes this is a bad day on
Friday but
specifically for this holiday I
said the
word holiday what is a day off
in the
United States anyway mm-hmm
Black Friday
is in the forum I'm gonna read
from the
wiki page so we can get to the
bottom of
it Black Friday's and formal
name for
the Friday following
Thanksgiving date
was you're celebrating the
fourth
Thursday Black Friday's been
regarded as
the beginning of the shopping
season
although the term brac Black
Friday
didn't become widely used until
most
recent decades when I was a
little kid I
never heard this term and I
first
started hearing it I don't know
maybe
when did you first hear it cuz
maybe 15
20 years oh no I've only heard
it in the
context of shopping what I
learned is
that in the 50s it referred to
the
practice of workers calling in
sick the
day after Thanksgiving and
that's why it
was called Black Friday
we'll hear the earliest
evidence of the
Black Friday applied to the day
after
Thanksgiving in a shopping
context yes
suggest that the term
originated in
Philadelphia mm-hmm
where it was used to describe
the heavy
and disruption pedestrian and
vehicle
traffic that would occur on the
day
after Thanksgiving and made it
all look
like black like everything was
black the
usage dates to at least 1961
more than
20 years later as the phrase
became more
widespread a popular
explanation became
the day represented at the
point of the
year when retailers began to
turn a
profit thus going from behind
the red to
being in the black yeah so it
morphed
ultimately this is a fit this
is an
American invention we rule this
is what
we do we create these types of
things
and you suckers and Europe you
particulate at it yes we're
very good at
it and we've created this began
in 61
and then morphed into what it is
probably in the 80s I think
sounds about
the timeline yeah that means
that we've
been doing is the official
Black Friday
the modern Black Friday which
means you
do retells make all their money
and that
and they all got a clue that
everyone's
gonna go shopping so let's
let's do it
this go overboard yeah that
just taken
what 30 years plus years 1891
is about
38 years we uh we'd like to see
Europeans or they don't know
what's
what's gonna happen in 38 years
from now
they could be completely nuts
well
remember we've created new
holidays we
have Cyber Monday we got the
cyber
Mondays I which is going to get
this
dude this holiday by the way
which is
not which is a bogus holiday
it's not a
holiday great marketing and I
believe
that Amazon push the idea of
Black
Friday in Europe if I'm or at
least in
London if I'm not if these guys
aren't
full of crap I would I would
think is
that if you if Black Friday
exists then
Cyber Monday it will exist yeah
I think
bamas on genius marketers if
that's true
well it really had really only
started
in the last five years in
Europe so that
wouldn't that would do I'm sure
we could
we can track that back to Amazon
probably yeah whatever doesn't
matter
it's all it's all people buying
shit
they don't need with money they
don't
have don't need with money they
don't
as so it keeps the country
going well
sadly that is the way our
country this
country works you know if I
said sadly
you don't like buying stuff no
I don't
like I will always remember
George W
Bush after 9/11 saying it's very
important we all go back to
work and
keep shopping yeah but it was
it was
kind of necessary because when
you don't
have the shopping taking place
we can't
create the fake money's to lend
to you
nothing happens if the
shoppings not
going on we're a mercantil
country based
on an oil economy let's do
something we
can't can't ignore completely
mm-hmm
and we know either one of those
things
is disrupted you're just gonna
end up in
a depression and then you get
the
opportunity for some socialist
government to take over some
bad things
to happen which is what some
people
strive for
people should shop so much well
that's
what Greenpeace was trying to
say yeah
that's what Greenpeace was
trying to say
and they're their basis for
saying that
is ill-advised I gotta tell you
just a
shopping experience since at
least was
here from school and you know
Tina the
keeper and I were nor
consolidating our
lives so you know I was
hell-bent on
taking them away from Sprint and
bringing them to my t-mobile
account
which is just better and
cheaper in my
opinion so we go to us the
coverage
there's the coverage good yeah
coverage
is really good especially up in
Arkansas
where she goes to school oh
then you
went t-mobile it's but it's
also cheaper
I like it I don't you seen the
CEO of
t-mobile yeah I have direct
contact with
John ledger the long haired
very yes
John ledger he's not a freak
he's a frigate defending your
friend now
he's not my friend but I've had
issues
and I i DM him any DMV back and
gave me
like his personal assistant to
help me
with but I was one of her in
Italy two
years ago okay but anyway but
anyway I
digress ago okay but anyway but
anyway I
so we setting up the way it
works is a
big rigmarole and you get your
hand in
your your phones and you get
new phones
back and basically you don't
pay for
anything but then it just
solves your
moved over the numbers and
moved over
and it's cheaper I guess for a
while
we'll see but two things a the
t-mobile
story were the only ones there
so much
for Black Friday it's like what
where's
all the shoppers nothing but
here's the
other thing I've always and I
don't I
have my iPhone 7 plus which is
it sits
in the corner on the charger
the only
reason it's there is it's
running
whatsapp so I can get to
whatsapp from a
web browser elsewhere I don't I
don't
use it in a little shrine no
it's on the
floor I don't use it but the
girls use
them and so they were going to
get new
ones and so they were going to
get new
uh I don't know what Apple was
thinking
I mean I've been able to keep
up with
their you know the numbers it's
seven
seven plus you know all the way
back to
the first one which I had then
I stopped
at seven and now we're up to
but now we
have thee this is still have
the ten we
have the XS the XS max the Rx
the you
know is all these different
model
numbers and there's knows like
you're
buying a BMW if you know what
it's a bit
like I'm confused about BMW or
Mercedes
numbers and you just see these
phones
there's four new iPhones next
to each
other the only difference you
can really
see is price
yeah you had the phone this
one's a
little bigger than that one and
that one
looks a little bit brighter
I think they screwed it up what
were
they thinking with all of the
it was so
easy to remember like the new
phone has
this number and there's the big
one has
a plus and now that no this one
has a
better camera that one has an
OLED
versus an LCD screen
it's like hocus I don't I think
they
made a mistake it's it's no is
I think
people just look I serve I can
afford
that one looks kind of the same
does it
work that works fine well this
is
reminiscent of apples the Apple
has a
tendency to do this they did
this with
the Macintosh once once jobs
quit and
Scully took over yeah and then
Scully
ran the business and you know
way up to
10x the company yeah and then
once he
left I think Spindler took over
after
that but once he left they
started this
weird branding of the Macintosh
the
Macintosh - there was the
Macintosh LS
there was a whole series of
macintoshes
that came out in boxes and
stand-alones
and it was really very
confusing and I
thought that you know it was
something
somewhat genius of them to do a
like a
yearly new a new iPhone yeah
and it was
gonna be this iPhone then it
was this
five than the six then no and
then you
had the plus and then the S we
had an S
cycle so you know I was gonna
be a
little color ones well that's
the RX now
the RX has the little color
ones except
you can't really get any color
of colors
because no and you know they
don't have
stock them enough yes I don't
know it
just it seems like a marketing
mistake
to me as someone who just as I
was just
like I'm not stupid I've kept
use yeah
there are people in marketing
departments that really believe
that
lots of SKUs give people a lot
of
choices is a good idea I don't
think so
hmm well I think you know we
won't I
wound up today we'll just get
him the Rx
you know looks fine
you know doesn't have this
spiffy super
camera on it or the OLED
display but
it's got the a 12 processor
oh I think you're right not
because I
think that's the googles you
know
falling it more you know pixel
pixel -
there's no I think they're up
to the
pixel three actually not a
pixel 3s and
a pixel 3a and a pixel 3/3 eyes
yes none
of that
I know yet yeah exactly
little ultra mom before we take
our
first break and this came out
this
morning I only had a chance to
listen to
it for one second this is from
CBS this
morning they are talking about
conspiracy theorists I'm always
interested what people think of
conspiracy theorists is because
I would
say that I am one huh let's see
if the
description fits what's inside
the tin
what does your basic conspiracy
theorist
look like if I ask people to
close their
eyes and imagine who that
person is
mm-hmm and imagine who that
person is
most of them are gonna think of
a white
male middle-aged and look a lot
like me
tinfoil hat perhaps living in
the
mother's basement with a ham
radio you
know we have this this movement
to get
more people younger people
especially
not your radio yeah and yet
there's this
guy like and I don't believe by
the way
that many of these conspiracy
theorists
whatever they whoever they are
are hams
I don't think that many are is
Alex
Jones a ham radio guy I don't
think so
your conspiracy theorist yes oh
okay
well no I don't think he's a
ham radio
guy yeah with that though thank
you for
making me a ham radio guy and
I'd like
to thank you for your courage
and say in
the morning to you Jonesy and
compact
for Migration Dvorak any
morning to you
Adam Curry in the morning all
ships to
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the air
substr were down now all the
Dames and
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morning to the trolls got a
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this morning
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from there but also want to say
in the
morning - uncle cave bear he
brought us
the artwork for episode 1088
the title
that was three chambers this
was the
poisonous gravy
it would be the friendsgiving
gravy
which you detailed as to how
that is hey
how was your friends giving you
you had
a friend a friends giving
didn't you the
kids had the friends giving you
went
over yeah yeah it was good yeah
the
gravy was good
that's right it I smelled it
first how
much did you do how much to
drink before
you went over uh i don't drink
and drive
I don't drink that much from it
okay
drive is conscientious
alright but you have two people
to thank
for today's show by the way I
wouldn't
should mention the people that
are
listening and I don't think
there's
gonna be that many because the
Thanksgiving Day and the Sunday
in
particular that follows
Thanksgiving are
very slow that's where most TV
shows are
on reruns and they even they
won't even
do late-night shows I'm
surprised the
news isn't a rerun although
when you
listen to the news you might
think it is
but we do have two people
wanted one
executive producer and one
associate
executive producer to thank and
the the
executive producer is anonymous
ten and
he gave one thousand eighty
nine dollars
and 33 cents which is even
better than
our 1389 he so he's a member
the 1089
Club by the way which hasn't
been used
for a while it hasn't been Club
that
Club hasn't been reopened for a
while
and he did it before the news
letter
went out which had the 1089
offering cuz
1089 is 33 square which we
thought would
be a big deal that turned out
nobody
cares look at this bridge see
like huh
you thought people would would
like the
33 squared promotion yeah who
did think
it was cool including anonymous
here but
let's see here's his note
anonymous note
jingles no karma wins the
classic
software Dvorak on typing going
to be
reimagined and re-released for
OTG
phones and smart phones no
that's it no
I'm not gonna do that first of
all
you're not gonna write it I
would write
it not gonna write it I would
write
it's already been written what
Devorah
Khan typing was a product that
came oh
no no I mean no reimagined for
image for
us I can happen
you had Dvorak outside nations
aren't
that good what what is this
what tell me
about Devore icon typing I'm not
familiar it was this product
that came
out in the I think in the late
80s maybe
no Andes I'm not sure from
interplay I
was working with them they're
good
software company down Southern
California this is long since
been
switched around there no know
what
they're doing it anymore and it
was just
they wanted to do this I did a
couple of
products formerly they want to
do this
typing thing but it was kind of
a
confused problem confusing
problem
because it wasn't about the
Dvorak
keyboard right right it was a
Mavis
Beacon clone
the name Mavis Beacon rings a
bell but
I'm not sure what that was it
was a
typing program done by I think
was
broderbund program done by I
think was
oh this taught you how to type
yeah huh
this was the same thing just do
you
still have it does it still like
contributions mostly saying the
letters
it's kind of its electors I've
been
hearing a B that's you in the
software
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software
that's right good work
does it say stuff like that yeah
excellent job oh please
somebody find
this software package for me if
you can
give first ID to five and a
half inch
discs and a five and a quarter
inch
disks but yeah it's not there's
fooling
around oh the many little
things I've
done in people so you were
really so
basically you were the the
precursor of
the Common Core well thank you
anonymous
we'll get right on that
but more importantly thanks for
playing
thank you for putting uh for
really
giving us a boost there with
your 30
through squared for our special
33
squared edition of the of the
show nine
thank you this appreciate it
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jingles no
note no nothing
holy crap so there was a short
segment
and that's it okay well look
we're happy
we got anything quite honestly
this is
used as John said these are
typically
very very bad bad weeks or bad
is this a
bad week for sure but but I
kind of
enjoyed the tops we were able
to discuss
I like the you know the the
globalization of Black Friday
and stuff
like that so I was happy to be
here and
the support is of course
appreciated
these credits we're thinking
about this
over the over the two days of
Thanksgiving we're really
you're getting
credits for credits which is
kind of
cool you know because what what
is a
what is a number like 1089 it's
just a
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payment
facility and we're giving you
an actual
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it's it's a
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it's a little segue here is I'm
John now
monitoring man Madam Secretary
yes yes
I'm glad you are because I
can't watch
it anymore it's pretty hard to
watch
this yes because it's pretty
much taken
over by the lire foundation was
burgled
show my Candice Bergen show
which I
you're also supposed to be
watching oh
my god that thing is unwatchable
well this but there was like a
whole
thing but did we do the ice
thing do we
already do that from that show
I don't
know I'll go look at the lire
foundation
is all over these programs yeah
these
two in particular but let's
just get a
little just a little G little a
little
knife into Russia on this
particular
short clip and this is at a
Leone as the
Secretary of State in a
fictional story
in this case is a spy Oh X by
talking to
the to the group I don't think
we know
anymore what Russia is or isn't
capable
of we need answers
so that's it yeah that was this
I'm
keeping these short yeah I
could tell
well I I did watch something
else about
I think we got through four four
episodes of the Clinton affair
this is
very interesting
I think it's originally a
series done by
A&E and now it's on Amazon the
Clinton
affair chronicles the really
the Monica
Lewinsky story and how that got
you know
extrapolated out of the white
originally
the Whitewater investigation
with a
special prosecutor Ken Starr
which
ultimately resulted in the
impeachment
of Bill Clinton well but the
impeachment
was for his had nothing to do
with the
Whitewater investigation and
only had to
do it's his testimony about
Monica where
he lied under oath the
interesting thing
as you're already starting to
point out
here you're already starting to
point out
the I did not know all of the
history I
did not realize there the
affair went on
for two years I did not realize
the
extent and I did not realize if
you look
at Paula Jones and there was
one other
one forget what what would
really
whether it really was about was
sexual
harassment in the workplace and
that's a
little different than the way I
recall
this go and of course this was
95 96 97
98 I was doing other things at
the time
so I didn't pay that much
attention to
it I didn't pay that much
attention to
probably didn't care but it but
you know
there's there's one is one
thing to it
really sexual harassment in the
workplace is a huge issue where
you're
doing this to subordinates and
that's
what the Paula Jones was about
and the
other and one of the other
women are
multiple there's a couple way
but what's
uncanny is the parallel and
when you
watch the series it's like holy
crap
this is exactly the type of
thing that's
happening to Trump today right
it means
right down to the same issues
the same
defense the same attacks the
differences
you know Trump so as far as we
know paid
off you know hookers and porno
stars to
have sex with him wasn't
necessarily
sexual harassment in the
workplace but
the same idea of an
investigation about
something which was like man
really the
Whitewater yeah maybe there was
something with the savings and
loan I
don't know Clintons did have
convinced
Foster's death in there which
you know
they the Trump hasn't had
anything like
that yet but you know it's like
a Russia
investigation and revolt
eventually it's
like it's like the history
repeats
itself we love in America we
like
starting at the top with you're
doing
something really bad for the
country and
we bring it all the way down to
a hooker
and to sex and that's all that
we seem
to be able to do is bring it
down to
someone having sex with
somebody else
and the D parallel is just
uncanny you
don't think it is but when you
see the
series you're like holy crap
and just as
bad by the way the name-calling
the
horrible press reports very
similar no
wonder no wonder Hillary wanted
all this
no wonder she's enlisted of mi6
and the
yeah with this with steel and
all these
guys no wonder so are you
implying that
this was your only way of
getting sex no
that's not what I'm implying
but it
sounded like it's very it's very
interesting to watch I think
I've seen
four or five must've been a
nightmare to
clear all of that it's just all
these
news reports very good and very
little
of Hillary you know it's really
about
Bill about what he was doing
and montt
it's Monica story I guess but
you know
look at all the the details
definitely a recommendations
we're
enjoying it very much
good yeah I was thinking of uh
equalizer
2 or something I saw I saw
equalizer two
on the plane yeah what'd you
think
and you know it's like ends
well that
all's well that ends well can
we just
have the guide everyone died at
the end
and just end it always has to
end in a
great way yes as modeled after
a lot of
people haven't seen in this
Denzel
Washington right that's what
we're
talking about yeah yeah III see
it
modeled after a classic Hong
Kong style
a movie where there's some
horrible
thing that happens at the
beginning and
then the rest of it is is
revenge
yeah and then at the very end
it took
classic Hong Kong movie that
would
mostly in the 80s John Woo and
some of
these directors came out of
this john
run this genre was very simple
and I
think the Punisher would be
wanted
there's a whole horrible
horrible look
like a prosper yeah it was very
ridiculously graphic and people
and then
they've done a revenge thing
starts to
get back at all the people that
did the
bad deed and the whole thing is
a chase
movie after that and then at
the very
end of these movies typically
they get
all the kill everybody
everybody's
injured and then the a house or
a
building or something blows up
and then
they shoot it from about 40
angles and
there's a boil up blow up blow
up blow
up so it's not just one
explosion it's
like the same explosions shot
from 50
angles and then the heroes are
all beat
to crap and they're limping and
they get
crutches and they walk into the
sunset
and here's the thing I was
wondering how
could I have ever missed the
enforcer
part one I mean what happens
well of the
equalizer whatever it is the
equalizer
part one was a good movie well
it was go
back and watch that I don't
think so it
was a great err airplane movies
to me it
felt like my agenda is Mission
Impossible the newest one that
they just
finally put on DVD felt to me
like this
was Denzel getting a house and
you know
some valley or something yeah
do this do
it number two but he did it
anyway
now speaking of movies in
Hollywood
we get a rare opportunity today
as the
MPAA the Motion Picture
Association of
America has uncloaked its true
mission
had we had net neutrality and I
think
now this could still be
implemented of
course in California where as
far as I
know the net neutrality laws
have passed
and as specifically although
billed as
hey man no one can slow down
your
Netflix or even slow down your
no agenda
show because the old has to be
know no
one gets any priority no fast
channels
the part that this show focused
on was
the small use of the words ISPs
may
legally block unlawful content
and
unlawful traffic which is what
seemed to
be quite an issue as you know
what is
that's not illegal by the way
it's
unlawful is a little different
man you
can create something can be
unlawful
very quickly so the MPAA has
put out
their recommendations this is
what they
want legislators to work on I
believe
this is what they wanted to have
implemented with net neutrality
and it's
pretty interesting for four
main topics
that I just want to discuss
they demand
hosting providers filter using
automated
content recognition technology
which as
we know works really well to
the forward
Digital Millennium Copyright
Act notices
DMCA takedown essentially to
users
terminates repeat infringers
after
receipt of a reasonable number
of
notices and prevent re
registration by
terminated users implement
download
bandwidth or frequency
limitations to
prevent high volume traffic for
particular files which sounds
like that
wouldn't have fit with net
neutrality
anyway a green I know that does
a whole
lot yeah I know I knew I was
all about
that I know I'm just reading it
to you
well no of course net neutrality
didn't happen so maybe they
added that
in but even then that would not
be in
accordance with net neutrality
which
they with net neutrality which
supported we continue the agree
not to
ok yoga's MP yeah these are
guys trying
to protect their movies yeah
but it goes
pretty far agree not to
challenge
third-party application of
court orders
regarding suspension of hosting
services
in cases by rights holders
against
pirate sites remove files
expedition
leaves expeditiously and block
referral
traffic from known privacy
sites so this
is where it gets interesting
and they
continue reverse proxy servers
should
disclose the true hosting
location of
pirate sites upon referral
terminate
identified pirate sites and
prevent
these sites from re-registering
and
green not the challenge third
party
application of court orders
regarding
suspension to reverse proxy
services
ISPs should forward Digital
Millennium
Copyright Act notices to users
terminate
repeat infringers after receipt
of a
reasonable number of notices
and prevent
re-registration also
expeditiously
comply with document subpoenas
for user
information and block sites
subject to
court order in the applicable
jurisdiction and finally social
media
should be compelled to remove
ads links
and pages dedicated to the
promotion of
any privacy devices and
terminate repeat
infringers they really want to
block
links a site that has a link to
anything
which of course Google would be
the
biggest offender but they're
the good
guys and I think it's very
telling to
see what the the Motion Picture
Association of America really
wants but
more importantly they claim
that they
have the right to do this
because of the
Constitution and yeah I want to
read
this to you because I actually
looked
into it to try and figure out
what they
meant let me see where it is
where's the
they call it the I think they
call it
the copyright clause although
that's not
what it's called in the
Constitution on
a second so why can't I find
this
copyright so they released a
very large
document the MPAA and this is
what it's
what is actually
call this they call it if their
rationale for all of these
horrible
things they want to implement
and they
say that they they cite here
specifically respect for
copyright
driving innovation and
competition and
here's what they say which i
think is
very disingenuous respect for
copyright
helps drive this creative and
economic
activity making the United
States the
global leader in the creation
of content
enjoyed worldwide and here it
comes
the Constitution's copyright
Clause
recognizes that securing the
rights of
creators in the fruits of their
creativity including to
determine how to
disseminate their works
increases both
the production and distribution
of
content to the ultimate benefit
of the
public and this thinking to me
and I've
looked at several Supreme Court
cases it
is so contrary to what the
Constitution
says in my humble
constitutional opinion
well let me tell you what I
think well
let me no you can't because you
come in
after I've told you section 8
of the
Constitution indeed has the
following
clause which is not titled the
copyright
clause it's just a part of
section 8 of
the Constitution and it goes as
follows
to promote the progress of
science and
useful arts by securing for
limited
times to authors and inventors
the
exclusive right to their
respective
writings and discoveries that
is one of
the powers Congress has and
they somehow
believe that this means that
this is to
let content creators enjoy the
fruits of
their labor but that end and
they say
distribution is a part of this
clause by
taking the word promotion and
progress
and saying oh that's about
distribution
so we our distribution needs to
be
protected this is all they lay
this all
out but really what I believe
the
Constitution says and I am
interested in
what you have to say is they're
not
about you have to say is
they're not
making more money for the
creator
they're saying to promote the
progress
of science and the useful arts
that
would be technology for the
people by
securing for limited times to
authors
and inventors the exclusive
right and
now of course the limited time
has
become the lifetime of the
creator plus
70 years and it's plus I think
95 it was
a corporation 50 years yeah
it's it's
insane what that's become and
this is
aching this is something that
should
really be revisited at a
Supreme Court
level it is just disgusting the
way they
are taking this clause and
turning it
into something for the Creator
no it was
so that people could receive
useful
knowledge and information to
build upon
to promote for the people not
for your
profit promote for the people
not for your
I'm interested to hear what you
have to
say about it copyright law was
to
protect the creator for 26
years and
then he could renew it for
another 26
years if he wanted to and then
it'd go
into the public domain where
which means
Mickey Mouse for example should
be in
the public domain by this law
and social
Donald Duck and all the rest of
these
Disney things and the
and the idea was so the guy who
did the
invention of the creation would
even
though there's patent laws that
also
protect those guys would would
you know
make out from you want to be
creative
but it wasn't for life and it
wasn't
like for anything it wasn't for
something you could just sell I
mean now
it's become a commodity you
create
something and you sell it to
somebody
else and then they now own it
that's not
protecting the Creator let me
give this
room it that he gets the check
but what
I'm the whole thing is this but
what I'm
saying the whole thing is this
but what I'm
so I'm disagreeing with you
here because
I do not believe that this was
to
protect the Creator no is not
to just
protect the Creator it is to
have a time
limit where the actual
invention can
help the general public that is
the the
distribution part to progress
to give it
to the to the people at large
in the
public domain of twenties
distribution
for 26 years was just arbitrary
there's
no there's no rule that says 26
years
that was just made up and now
it's been
extended to as you say you know
150
years is about the lifetime of a
copyright or a patent yeah
everybody's
dead or a patent yeah
everybody's
he had no the yeah no I said it
twice
now the point was yeah they get
protected for 26 years because
they
otherwise it would just be like
this
stuff would be stolen instantly
so you
wouldn't have to be able to
even do a
mag seems right but do you lit
enjoy
that's not paying anything for
anything
like because it's just easy to
steal and
so they have to protect this
guy for a
while and then it was supposed
to go
into the public domain which I
did say
and that was what benefited the
public
where you could you know work
upon it
use it for something else you
could read
jigger it you could rewrite it
do you do
other things with it well and
that all
I'm saying is it patents the
Motion
Picture Association of America's
interpretation of the
Constitution has
been debunked by as far back as
Justice
Brennan that this is not that
is not
intended to secure the rights
of the
creators and the fruits of their
creativity to ultimately
benefit the
public because it doesn't
benefit the
public it benefits the
corporations at
this point and it's just I'm
just blown
away by how they think that
that's what
that constitutional clause
means in
Section eight
it's all about them well yes it
is and
what they're and they're
screwing
themselves because now we've
gotten to
this point we have too many
services
that's why we're gonna see
people start
stealing content again cuz you
know
again in MPs in bigger numbers
I think
it definitely got better with
easy
access through Netflix but then
you have
Netflix you have Amazon you
have Hulu
you have to have five hundred
dollars
worth of of subscriptions if
you don't
want to have FOMO and want to
watch the
latest coolest show so of
course people
don't do that No
you can't monetize the there is
the cord
cutting phenomenon which is
partly due
this overpricing mm-hmm partly
due it's
because of the overpricing yes
and the
kind of the scamming aspect of
bundling
I mean if you get a
subscription to say
how many people watch more than
one or
two movies a month on Showtime
HBO stars and all these other
things
that you subscribe to in a
bundle and it
cost you a lot of money and
you're
really just seeing two movies
yeah you
have the access that the whole
thing
needs to be rethought and the
MPAA is to
me that I'm making the same
kind of
mistake to the RIAA made when
they
brought to the public's
attention the
fact that you could get mp3's by
downloading them for free which
was just
an underground thing for years
yeah it
was usually done by DJs and
people that
you know they just really
couldn't put a
collection together and it was
underground trading and college
kids
were the biggest probably the
biggest uh
thieves they had many of the
college
networks had all these songs
that had
somebody slipped onto the
network to
school didn't even know about
it and
they were trading back and
forth and
listening the music college kids
couldn't afford to buy all
these songs
and albums and most of them
weren't that
good at the time and then but
it was
just underground it stayed that
way
until the RIAA came up and
brought it to
the attention of the public at
large hey
look what's going on and the
next thing
you know everyone's saying yeah
oh this
is cool in the Napster became a
thing
because of it yes and the whole
thing is
really not is poorly thought
out there
just I mean what why can't they
bring
take pirates Bay offline
why would what do you mean why
can't
they who's they
they are their MPAA their there
in that
document you just read they're
talking
about sources of distribution
they can't
how they have to they can't and
that's
why net neutrality was needed
and now
that as I said as I preface this
decloaking shows what they
wanted to do
at the ISP level they want to
shut you
down under the unlawful content
unlawful
network traffic clauses that's
the point
they can't you can't shut down
these
torrents you can't shut down
stuff it's
peer to peer it's always going
to be
around that's where they're
going after
the ISPs and we only have four
of them
they'll have a few real ISPs
certainly
in the United States and they
just want
to block that traffic off it's a
referral link it's a proxy link
its
torrent traffic
well and they have agreements
and they
have agreements with all the
payment
services so they um Cass
Comcast it's in
their interest to block those
things
because they sell movies yeah
there are
you know Netflix clone that
they you
know if you're Comcast customer
you can
get most of the ISPs doing rent
this
movie it's new rent this movie
three
bucks four bucks whatever it is
and they
would love to be able to block
this
stuff but I don't know how are
they
gonna get around the technology
technology I'll strip these
guys are
slow on the draw they're not
technologists they're a bunch
of beer
we've already agreed on this
point
several times in the past this
is what
they every time you turn around
now you
have the VPN can go but past
all this
stuff and what are they gonna
do about
it and what are they gonna do
about
this is exactly what they said
they want
they wanted to mandate that
referring
link traffic from VPNs would be
available so they would know if
both
sides a if the hosting part was
in it
where that originated from or
if you
were accessing from the wrong
country
for some source something
you're not
supposed to retrieve you go to
the okay
you take your VP and everyone
has one
I say bytes they have to use
the rest of
this show have a VPN
you're just making buy things
for me I
don't understand what you're
doing I'm
gonna make your point for free
that's
because apparently it can't
make it to
me but I'm gonna make it to you
so you
get out these VPNs or pastand
are
encrypted every which way
they're
encrypted to the VPN they're
encrypted
from the VPN they're encrypted
from the
VPN to the other site and the
other side
back and forth I don't care
what kind of
deep packet sniffing you do to
just look
at this data stream that's just
an
anonymous data stream coming
and this is
a bunch of nothing I don't see
how
you're gonna be able to
determine that
as a BitTorrent stream or
anything else
for that matter
these guys are fooling
themselves
they're charging money to fool
themselves they're charging
money to
somebody this is not being done
if you
wanted to do this you have to
do some
other way open your mind what I
said was
they decloaked
what they wanted to have happen
with net
neutrality in place if net
neutrality
was the law they would have
easily as in
California I also said that as
I said
we'll have to see what happens
in
California if it was the law
you better
believe they would have ways to
say
unlawful traffic unlawful
content coming
from these IP addresses their
VPNs their
proxy servers they would have
every
right and the ISPs would have
to comply
that's my only point they have
to make
VPNs illegal
no you can't tell it's not an
unlawful
traffic unlock yes unlawful
traffic or
unlawful content they could
easily have
said that IP address is a VPN
it's a
proxy server that's serving VPN
clients
that needs to be blocked at the
ISP
level that was the plan all
along one of
the blends now I think you can
I think
you definitely can of course
you can
that would be it's too late
these guys
are always too late
yeah I mean I'd like to see him
try
yeah I mean what do you do
about banks
what do you do about these in
these
these kind of encrypted systems
that
have to exist or these
companies can't
do business so it would have
been a
nightmare yes nothing they're
gonna get
anywhere and I think what's
interesting
is let's see how it works in
California
because they are going to start
suing
California now has these laws
on the
books you'll see we're gonna
find out
exactly what would have
happened and
it's probably gonna happen in
California
because of the net neutrality
laws that
include those those clauses
those I
think in California which is
where you'd
think it would happen because
of course
they put net neutrality and
California
is also the home of all these
these
content producers down in
Hollywood
mm-hmm yeah you'd think that
this would
be the perfect place for a
testing
ground but because of the of
the the
crunchiness of the pole state
and the
way everyone sees things
implement
anything that would have attack
an ISP
because the besides having
Hollywood we
also have the largest tech
community I
believe in California now and
they're
not gonna let this give me
their fortune
that's rather jollity is not
killing
VPNs not yet not yet but show
will be
long over by the time they get
that far
you know if there's only one
thing I'd
'mentally disagree with is you
base a
lot of your assumptions of when
something will happen on old
situations
before social media before this
in fact
often before the internet
Facebook is
gonna die in our lifetime John
and will
without even without a
competitor in a
Facebook it's going to happen
people
people have choices for other
things
they get fed up they have other
things
to do in life all on their
phone but
they still have other things to
do they
leave things things will happen
fast
I really believe things happen
faster
yeah I know you've believed
they but I
think your belief in this in
particularly with Facebook is
wishful
thinking more than it is
objective
analysis oh okay you hope it
does no I
don't care I really don't care
one way
or the other i say this that i
yes i do
base things on things like you
say on
the past
because people predicting I'd
be the
demise of IBM you know during
when the
microcomputer came but us the
end of IBM
the microcomputer is gonna take
them out
that's about time and it was
the same
thing that we did the internet
then we
didn't have the same
infrastructure so
of course what well speaking of
crunchy
then let me take us on a
different topic
with something to listen to
podcast
advertising we don't do it
then there's reasons why we
don't do it
but I have a piece of podcast
advertising that is running
rampant you
know we've had the Squarespace
we've had
the what's the underwear
everyone was
advertising oh god there's an
underwear
thing going around you're right
and also
the mattresses yeah it's Casper
the
mattress what was the what's
the the
hell was that the come on Joe
Rogan has
them as a sponsor I don't know
the
underwear yeah it's underwear
thing it's
like the perfect fit they're
great it's
like some special underwear
company that
the tonnage um Tommy John there
we go
thank you troll room Tommy
Jerry me
undies another one already
competitors
it's pathetic if they're selling
underwear on the podcasts oh it
gets
better on the podcasts oh it
gets
this is a live Reed which I've
always
believed is the way if you're
gonna do
advertisements you got to do
live Reed's
I think that's the way to go I
still
don't think the month the
network can be
monetized properly but I've
always
believed in the endorsement
model this
is the talk nerdy podcast not
something
I listen to I actually got this
from one
of our Knights sir rod mr.
atomic Roddy
is it a nuclear expert and he
was a
command yeah he was coming he
commanded
us a nuclear submarine for a I
always
mess it up but anyway you know
he's he's
not a dumb guy so whatever this
podcast
is it's interesting to him and
therefore
interesting in general but this
is how
the show opens with their live
read
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quick
break to thank the sponsors of
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eating these protein bars
they're
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think they
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you yet are you ready no chalky
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you stop just stop for just
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trying to decide if there is a
note I
can't say for sure but I a note
of
incredulity credulity with this
woman
trying to be sincere and though
they
were verses she I know she's
can't
possibly be sincere but she
sounds like
she's trying or or you think
it's just a
dead read but she's got a lot
of life in
it I can't for the life of me
can't
figure out this read at all
well yes I
think that the one that hooked
me in was
this is the future of food you
guys to
me it's like no I want to hear
about it
that you usually get in the
store and
they have yummy flavors like
there's a
cardamom flavored woman I'm
really
partial to and they're really
good
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dip in
hummus you can eat a cheese or
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they're quite balanced you know
they're
they're really high-end protein
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and they've got other vitamins
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they've got
the macro and your in nutrients
and the
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I just I couldn't stop
listening I like
you can get clip of the day for
that if
you want it is your option and
no I have
a set of clip of the day I'll
do this
[Music] set of clip of the day
I'll do this
tastes like poo NASA that's all
I want
do I hit that is the damnedest
thing
I've ever heard in terms of her
full
enthusiasm it's the future of
his good
guys she's enthusiastic
enlisted she's
unless she's a lizard it's the
future of
food you guys
is another thing I've noticed
how can
somebody do a podcast with a
try yeah I
don't know maybe the place is
up just a
humor podcast was just doing
joke see I
know it's called talk nerdy I
know it's
nerd stuff I know
No stuff I know
seems so shameless sheet lists
that's
Jane I used the word a lot
today but
this is very shameless disaster
future
food and they go go out and
promote
something like this this is and
I'm not
gonna say which podcast there
this is
but this reminds me of the guys
who you
they do one mattress and then
the next
greatest greatest and then the
next you
know the month later so
different
mattress which is the greatest
is the
greatest well I don't think
that's a new
I think I don't think the
broadcast
history would show that we
haven't the
flowers not products be Mike
Levin Mark
Levin not products be Mike
Levin Mark
and Mark Levin was going on
about one of
these systems where you know
you'd
checks your make sure that you
don't
have your identity stolen for
months and
months and months it was just
one
company I I'm not gonna plug
either one
of these companies and all of a
sudden
it's another company the world's
greatest jobs it just seems to
me and I
don't know if people can I mean
people
bitch and moan about all kinds
of it
dishonesty and of all sorts you
know
from up and down the the you
know the
media's dishonest the
president's
dishonest everybody's dishonest
but how
could you do a something like
what we do
I think is the point you were
making and
then do that yeah
yeah and then meant claimed to
be you
know neutral or whatever he
supposed to
be yeah that bull greed is the
worst
thing I can imagine just it's a
podcast
I just I like I like the
terminally it's
the future food you guys I hear
this a
lot future food you guys I hear
this a
oh you guys you guys I'm
assuming you
clip that as a nice oh no I
didn't
actually that as a nice oh no I
didn't
damn cuz that's the way they
end the
show now I actually I actually
I clipped
an ISO from
is it from the from the French
is what I
clipped an ISO from okay
yeah let me see what was it
there was
the we're talking about about
the
yeah about the the riots here
it is this
is this is the I so I clipped
what are
we what are we now we sheep
promises muddy yeah it is
little money I
agree there's another term that
I hear a
lot and because you know we
watch a lot
of YouTube videos to get stuff
you know
you just wind up watching
YouTube videos
this is the phrase that I'm
getting a
little annoyed by I'm gonna go
ahead and
have you noticed this
I have I'm going to go ahead
and start
the donation segment now that
you
mention don't be annoyed by it
every
time I hear okay guys I'm gonna
go ahead
and let John explain that I'm
gonna go
ahead and hey why don't you go
ahead and
go to the bathroom
Oh once you go ahead and tell
me what's
going on with that I this I
this is a
sound like Lumbergh I'm going
off the
space oh I hear this so much
I'm sure
people are annoyed with stuff
we say
over and over but hey at least
try to
retry to correct our or we do
gaffes
let's play something from CNN
is did an
interview with Chuck this is
Zuckerberg
and and you know he's not even
getting
taught him is must orchim
because now it
is sitting out some random
reporter was
probably did tech reporter and
she's
gonna go ahead and interview
Zuckerberg
and it's it's not the top level
that
he's used to because I think
he's well
can i interject yeah I think
the news
media's finally gotten a clue
and looked
at their numbers and said hey
why are we
giving this guy a free pass
good point
he's competing with us good
point
this is
you know I have my theories
about face
Facebook they are going to die
in cost
that's really what it's gonna
come down
to and the guitar they're tight
they are
killing themselves choking
themselves as
witness in this interview with
King Zach
you are CEO and chairman of
Facebook
that's an extraordinary amount
of power
given that you rule a kingdom
of 2
billion people digitally
shouldn't your
power be challenged I know that
you rule
a kingdom of 2 billion people
digitally
I know I know I know that's why
I said
it's like some some techy year
girl they
put in their fangirl to go in
the
interview and to be tough with
him ok go
ahead and I'm just gonna go
ahead and be
tough with him of power given
that you
rule a kingdom of 2 billion
people
digitally shouldn't your power
be
checked yes I think that
ultimately the
issues that we're working on
here you
know things like preventing
interference
and elections from other
countries
finding the balance between
giving
people a voice and keeping
people safe
these are not issues that any
one
company can address but let me
give you
an example of a place where I
think
independent governance is
really helpful
so one of the things that we
are going
to start rolling out this thing
is one
other thing is basically
letting people
in the community at an
independent
appeal just listen to it for a
second
listen to what he's saying
otherwise
you'll miss the importance of
his idiocy
place where I think independent
governance is really helpful so
one of
the things that we are going to
start
rolling out soon is basically
letting
people in the community get an
independent appeal when they
feel like
their content is taken down in
a way
that doesn't that doesn't fit
with our
community standards all right
so now you
know you post something if
someone else
reports it we we might take it
down if
we find that it's hate speech or
violates our policies but if you
disagree you're gonna be able
to appeal
and you'll also be able to
appeal to an
independent body and that's an
example
where you know that independent
body
will have you will have real
you know
teeth and power and will be
transparent
in the decision that they're
making and
if I want to overrule that
independent
body I want to overrule that
independent
I'm not going to be able to so
you're
not stepping down as chairman
that's not
the plan so the idea here if we
didn't
have enough people already
screening all
content uploaded because
artificial
intelligence can't do it now
they're
going to have tribunals so yes
they're
going to get into conversation
with
people about this it's going to
bankrupt
well well they're probably try
to get
volunteers but I thought the
most
interesting thing about this
clip was
the journalists misconstrues
what he had
to say yeah yeah and at the
very end
says also you're not stepping
down his
chairman and then he says
you're missing
the point was yes if she was
missing the
point because she's an idiot
yes well I
don't know about them going
broke with
having uh these I think the
whole
through that said I don't know
I don't
use Facebook maybe never have
I would like to get a no agenda
Facebook
account which I might do why
and why
because you can't buy
advertisements on
Facebook I don't let you open
it I'd say
something I don't want any
advertisements of our show on
Facebook
I'm just vetoing it right now
besides
you've had talked about it some
other
you've had two years to do it
you keep
threatening you've never done it
yeah Devin account yes I know
look for
$100,000 the Russians won the
entire one
day 11 16 election I have to
agree I
mean it's get a president
that's the
price seems too good to be true
I mean
it's just the dynamite outfit
there yeah
we can get someone elected
president $4
yeah yeah well yeah okay we're
talking
about since I brought Trump up
he'll say
well you guys are just a couple
of trump
apologies you can use that
thing here's
the Merry Christmas medley that
was used
to just kind of ridicule Trump
Merry
Christmas Merry Christmas
everybody
Merry Christmas everybody Merry
Christmas everybody to serve
God through
serving others so merry
Christmas
everyone Merry Christmas may
God bless
our troops and their families
and may
God bless you all with peace
and joy in
the year ahead and we are going
to say
Merry Christmas again
[Applause] Christmas again
okay that thing that now I
understand
the I guess there was a trump
was lying
about us not saying Merry
Christmas is
that what the idea was of that
clip well
that comes out of Fox is that
actually
all stems from O'Reilly was not
even
there anymore but it's the war
on
Christmas hmm which was a
bigger deal
three or four years ago and
this by the
kind of fallen by the wayside
but Trump
still uses it as a talking point
yeah that's incorrect because
you know
obviously Commerce understands
the
importance of Christmas so
there's still
a lot of social justice stuff
going on
with happy holidays etc but I
think
ultimately now the retailers
are just
it's Mary's Christmas we just
got to
have Christmas and make it
better for
business and no one's fighting
that
yeah I think you're dead right
is it
better for business why would
we want to
downplay Christmas when it
sells so much
product Christmas when it sells
so much
yeah Hales yeah say that's what
we're
all about the holiday season
because the
holiday season refers to
everything from
the holiday Thanksgiving
through New
Year's mm-hmm such a whole you
know
weeks and we a month over a
month
of vie bye-bye
yeah yeah so there was a good
report I
got from one of our Millennials
and
unfortunately like everybody in
the
family except me uh because it
do always
results in did you take a
picture you
have a phone you can get you
got a
camera you take aw you know I
forgot to
take a picture it's a very
common
problem I have here
I guess wholefoods hat because
people
can't cook head you know they
sold
turkeys and they sold you know
you'll
hold meals and I'm in a thing
in a
container you get Thanksgiving
meal to
go that's not good to go
Thanksgiving
meal and a bunch of dressing
and gravy
in a big bucket the whole foods
on Ashby
in Albany
I guess on Thanksgiving had a
line that
was close to a quarter mile
long for
people lined up to pick up
their turkey
orders that were precooked you
know pre
cooked meal really yeah and
apparently I
was told that Amazon has been
they went
with and they started promoting
it on
Amazon so you can get why cook
you can
get beautifully cooked
professionally
cooked meal from from Whole
Foods that
they pick it up it'll be better
than
anything you can do it yeah
well cooking
is of course going by the
wayside to
some degree I think the the big
thing
now is that the insta pot is
that what
all the kids are talking about
these
days the insta pot
slowly into the pot
Mimi told me about the insta
pot about a
year ago yeah and I looked into
it and I
and she says that in in Port
Angeles and
the City Council no she's a you
know
Politico up there mm-hm she
says every
old lady there's not just the
kids she
says every old woman raves
about this
thing oh you've got to get one
yeah it's
just a pressure cooker as far
as I can
tell it's a pressure gets a
drunk
programmable pressure whoo hmm
is it an
Internet of thing
I'm sure we'll be yeah but at
some point
but this is this is what I see
all the
tournament remotely and blow up
their
house what I what I see all the
and all
the recipes for Halloween it
got a great
instapass recipie it's throwing
stuff
into the pressure cooker
pressure cooker
that was wouldn't let the 60s
or 70s
that were human oh let's go
back to the
depression oh really that
pressure
cooker the depression cookers
this was
one of these great tools to
save energy
and raising me cook faster and
you know
it said kept thali the vitamins
and
nutrients and cooking really
had Thunder
steam produced steam pressure
it would
fresh it would the pressure
would push
the vitamins that are trying to
leak out
and to think is this a high
pressure
push it in does all right that
sounds
like folks imagine the
advertiser
pushing that pushing it to get
out yeah
and so yeah I'm not sure when
they
became super popular but my
parents had
him in the 50s they had one and
I think
they were popular and during the
Depression I don't know when
they were
invented I'll look it up as we
speak
I all I remember is my mom had
one now
I'm talking 70s and they had
that little
valve on the top and I was like
well
what happens if you pull that
up my mom
would be like then you'll have
food all
over the kitchen don't do it
she always
wore me anyway from the dead
well
there's that yeah
yeah the pressure cooker which
is a
great device I use a Swiss
pressure
cooker that has three ways of
not
blowing up a score varna no
doubt now
it's what is this one it's a
yeah what
is this thing a Saab
sweet oh I'm sorry Swiss Swiss
Swiss I'm
sorry it's with yes with swish
you know
they're not gonna let anything
blow up
in the place
no I don't know it uses a one
and a half
planets of power I don't think
it's very
very efficient doesn't seem
like a good
I know I like Cougars I remember
pressure because they had the
relief
valve on the top and they were
made out
of pot iron and then they had
two things
that on the side you clamp it
in you
clamp it down uh-huh so I mean
this
thing would be a real explosion
if you
do if that relief fell didn't
go off and
I mean it would blow up the
house must
have a dangerous tie remind you
of the
Boston bombing yeah whether it
was
pressure cookers no but yeah I
think
they were used when they were
invented
for the public they were they
were very
popular because they could cook
in the
pressure cooker about 1/4 to
1/3 the
time anything this original
microwave
there you're waving you get
them out of
the way hey before we go into
our break
because I was reading the
Hillary
Clinton interview and the
Guardian you
know you run across the
Guardian they
they have a pitch very similar
to kind
of like what wiki pedia does
except
Wikipedia has it at the top and
they say
right off the bat you know if
everyone
gave more $1 and then we'd have
enough
and we wouldn't have to beg for
money
and the Guardian puts this
article at
the bottom about their
independent
journalism and I don't know if
you've
seen their recent Android this
is the
Guardian they they think that
they are
real news the top they are
they're
truthful they are independent
they
consider themselves in New York
Times
yes they do consider themselves
themselves the tide the paper
of record
next to the New York Times I
wanted to
share with you their donation
pitch
which is at the bottom of pages
it's in
his own little box and I want
you to
listen to this and tell me if
you have
any issue with what they're
saying their
pitch goes as follows
hey you may have noticed the
Free Press
is under attack
president Trump refuses to
condemn those
responsible for the murder of
Jamaal
Khashoggi he revoked to CNN
reporters
White House press pass and
attacks the
mainstream media at his mass
rallies the
president recently raised a
Congress
praised a congressman for
attacking a
Guardian reporter he has
accused the
American press of being the
enemy of the
people in 2018 this is their
pitch in
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I have a couple other things oh
yes BBC
click have a couple other
things oh yes BBC
little piece about artificial
intelligence we love artificial
intelligence that will be used
to
understand if a crowd is
getting too
rowdy if a crowd is getting too
so there well the story kinds
of it
explains it at the end of the
day what
we want to be able to do is to
take a
training set where you have
some audio
acoustical characteristics and
knowing
what the crowd was doing her
brother
Travis responding joy yeah it's
great we
have to teach the computer this
say that
was that was the crowd cheering
versus
that was the crowd booing what
do they
have to know when to turn on the
automatic water cannon that's
what this
segment is about we have that
training
set then the computer can go
through the
recordings and then look for
those types
of responses in the acoustic
data and
then you basically have a model
for
classifying different crowd
sounds when
you get to its different types
of events
say that's going back to the
original
thoughts of things like
political
rallies you may have more
chanting going
on but again a person chanting
versus a
person cheering versus a person
booing
they should all sound
acoustically
similar and so we think that
studying
the the problem of sporting
events
should transfer into other type
of crowd
type events so supposing it's a
political rally and maybe
things to
start off and the crowd is
overall quite
happy but things are beginning
to slide
into something a bit more
hostile I just
wonder if if the hope is that
the
computer system will pick up
that
hostility and give an early
warning
perhaps pick up on it before
the human
beings do that would be the
goal the
goal would be able to be able
to create
a an early warning system for
security
or peacekeeping that would
allow the
computer to essentially
determine that
that the crowd mood is changing
in
perhaps there would be triggers
in that
to say okay this this has the
potential
for becoming violent so flip on
the
microwave nuke the fuckers
that's where all this is going
you know
you can't have somebody
watching and
just determining one thing or
another
yeah tell me if this is happy
or if this
is hostile
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it's a happy version of Locker
ah that's
what I think but who knows the
algo
might interpret it the wrong way
I don't know I'm talking about
misinterpreting things this is
the Erin
Burnett here misinterpreting
something
that uh that Trump said out
front
tonight president Trump
attacking the
Chief Justice of the Supreme
Court of
the United States doubling down
on a
slam against Justice Roberts
this
evening after the Chief Justice
defended
the u.s. judiciary to the
president in
an unprecedented public
statement let me
show you exactly what happened
it all
began when Trump was asked
about a
federal court ruling which was
against
his new policy that would bar
migrants
who come into the United States
illegally from seeking asylum
here's
what the president said about
the ruling
well you go to the Ninth
Circuit and
it's a disgrace and I'm going
to put in
a major complaint this was an
Obama
judge and I'll tell you what
it's not
gonna happen like this anymore
okay that
sure sounds like a threat okay
that's that's what she sees as
a threat
does that something gets read
to you oh
yeah that he's gonna put in a
major
complaint I'm gonna write a
nasty note
to the time
mmm ooh that's a that's a
threat to her
Erin Burnett is really she's
she does a
lot of eye rolling head shaking
it's
pretty unprofessional
I can't watch I used to watch
her a lot
I liked her now just everything
is also
headshake it's starting to stir
her dis
her dysfunction a dystopia
whatever it
is she's exhibiting there's
stuff like
this no he's starting to show
up on her
face interesting you know
losing some of
her collagen Cherie looks yeah
collagen
although that would be it
collagen is
collagen is drooping
it's the it's the horrible
puppet mouth
meanwhile Hayden had a stroke
oh really
my a Michael Hayden yeah oh
really
playing crap we're learning
here at CNN
that former CIA and NSA
director General
Michael Hayden who also works
with us
here as a CNN analyst suffered
a stroke
earlier this week we are told it
happened at home and that he is
now
receiving expert medical care
his family
thanks everyone for their warm
wishes it
begins the healing process and
general
from everyone here it's in and
our
thoughts are certainly with you
and we
look forward to your recovery
and
getting back here at CNN as
soon as you
can hmm actually yeah he's
actually been
hospitalized addiction all
that's not
good I mean sad I had it don't
play that
part I had a clip that would
have tied
into your your you're a Ninth
Circuit
Court clip this is the the
courts and
the asylum and the the deal
he's now
struck with Mexico which i
think is
quite telling about what the
president
wants to have happen what I
think a lot
of people in America want to
have having
and now apparently Mexico was a
major
development on the us-mexico
border
The Washington Post confirming
the Trump
administration and Mexico's
incoming
government have struck a deal
on a new
border policy it would force
asylum
seekers to wait in Mexico while
their
claims move through the US
ports CNN's
White House reporter Sarah
Westwood
joining me right now with more
on this
so we've been hearing of the
possibility
for weeks now
are these the final stages of
this plan
well Fred it looks that way and
the
president seems to be making
efforts
progress on his efforts to curb
asylum
seeking in the US this deal
comes after
his administration has been
putting
pressure on Mexico for weeks
now to do
more to help the US with its
illegal
immigration problem the deal
would turn
Mexico into a waiting room of
sorts as
migrants who wants your post
asylum in
the United States would be
required to
wait in Mexico while their
claims are
being adjudicated in US courts
now the
president has recently tried to
make us
eylem changes to asylum
policies through
executive action just before the
midterms in fact he announced an
attempted policy change that
would
require migrants
to request asylum at legal
points of
entry it would forbid them from
requesting asylum if they were
caught
trying to cross the border
illegally
that executive action was
blocked by the
ninth circuit who said it was
illegal
for the president to make those
kinds of
changes to the Asylum system
unilaterally obviously the
president has
been fixated on that decision
as he's
been spending his Thanksgiving
holiday
down here in West Palm Beach
but this
deal with Mexico would mark a
significant change to the
asylum system
in that no longer would
migrants be
eligible to request asylum the
moment
that they touch on US soil
which is how
the current law works but Fred
it's
unclear that the president is
going to
be able to make this kind of
major
change to asylum policy without
the help
of Congress it's very yeah good
I like
the use of the words he's
fixated that's
why he's in West Palm Beach
right exactly what is the
connection
between being in West Palm
Beach which
sounds like a place to play
golf and
relax for him as and being
fixated so
he's in so he goes to West Palm
Beach
when he's fixated what is this
kind of
report I don't they just throw
this
stuff out as though there's some
connection believe it's meant
to show
the I swear I think it's meant
to show
the dichotomy between you know
his life
and the life of the caravan and
the
migrants in the asylum seekers
though
that could be - I think that's a
possibility could be - I think
that's a
Palm Beach and these poor
bastards are
stuck in masa Co but that but
if there
is anything broken with art and
we hear
this continuously our
immigration system
is broken having participated
in the
immigration process twice having
petitioned for people to come
in Legally
right and actually helped a
third person
I know a lot about this process
and the
only thing that truly is indeed
broken
is somehow you are allowed to
request
asylum after you have snuck
into the
country illegally that's the
part that
that's it's a very small change
you fix
that you fix a lot
hmmm that's the only thing
and you know why it doesn't
happen it's
a whole another story
because we we know we want
amnesty we
want cheap labor
in California especially it's
not just
California John it's really
everywhere
the cheap labor it's that it's
really
it's quite despicable when you
see the
organisms that we don't talk
about
enough when you see the
organizations
that deal with asylum not with
migrants
Asylum and the billions of
dollars they
receive from government and
these are
religious organizations and
they all are
placement and they all have
deals with
you know that's why they wanted
to send
a lot of the US with its
Syrians I
believe in the Syrians of
Libyans they
want them to go to Detroit
now there were Syrians Syrians
wasn't
that the Obama thing but that
was that
was Minnesota they were sending
in the
Minnesota I know they're
sending Somalis
the Minnesota yeah it's it's
it's a work
program it's a work program but
it just
seems so disingenuous
now it is disingenuous doesn't
seem
disingenuous it is and um and I
think
the original ruling should
stand if you
want to siloam then you go to
an asylum
station at a port of entry it's
how it
works at a port of entry it's
how it
I don't know the court didn't
see it
that way I have question I have
no idea
what it the ninth I don't know
why it's
important is that it is the
Ninth
Circuit Court an important
Court is it
the last one before the Supreme
Court I
don't understand the system can
you give
a a synopsis is one of those
appeals
courts is a bunch of them
around the
country and they like to funnel
so if
it's a like an issue that that
that's
gonna that where you want an
outcome
that favors the progress of
left-wing
theologies you try to send it
to the
ninth you try to send it to the
although the ninth court
because the
ninth Court has always bits of
calaf I
think it's December's it's
around here
somewhere I think but it's very
liberal
and they always come up with
these crazy
ideas and they did still does
very they
hate Trump it's perfect court
for them
is it all West Coast the Ninth
Circuit
is that the idea Ninth Circuit
as West
Coast okay but it's but do they
have
more power than I don't know
the Fifth Circuit or the first
no no no
okay you don't go for a circuit
the
circuit that's the one you go
you go
your your regular court system
and then
it gets an appeal against
bounced to the
ninth and then it goes to the
Supreme
Court after that doesn't go
anywhere
else are these circuit numbers
are they
maps to FEMA regions
I don't know that but I don't
think so
but it's possibly Marie's 9
Arizona
California Hawaii Nevada CB
maybe
there's some coincidental thing
they're
going on maybe it's not so
coincidental
the other big one is the DC
Court of
Appeals which just doesn't have
a number
right which is where the the
rapist went
this rapist Oh Harry
Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby
that
wasn't a judge which other oh
oh oh the
judge rapist
yeah the jury was the judge
rapist I'm
proven rapist went there so did
you know
about the new Interpol boss yes
I did
hear about the new Interpol boss
what do you know about it
here's the
clip if you want to place 27
seconds
where is it you want a new
ah yes got it I'll remember
when I hear
the clip I feel honored to have
been
elected to coincide of the
executive
committee over the next two
years and so
Interpol has a new president
Kim Jong
yang of South Korea beat out a
Russian
candidate and that's key
because the
Russian was the favorite for
the job and
there were concerns over Kremlin
interference the international
police
organization says the election
was free
and transparent Kim is a career
policeman and will serve a
two-year term
yeah what I heard was maybe
this is a a
week ago that all it's gonna be
Putin's
buddy is gonna be the new boss
of
Interpol I guess that didn't
happen well
the thing that has always
interested me
and I don't have it in the clip
unfortunately is that the old
Interpol
boss was busted for being a
criminal
that's not much different than
the
United Nations climate change
chief who
just had to resign because he
was using
you know air travel excessively
for
private use right racking up my
he
always had to go via Paris well
I'm
going from Washington DC to
Baltimore
via Paris you know to go see
Pierre and
everything yeah you know
spewing carbon
dioxide and increasing his
footprint
yeah these stories are not so
uncommon
amongst the elite I have two
clips what
are we doing I have two clips
that is
which has a question in the
middle which
I'm gonna ask you because you
dude
you're the one this is your
beat okay
reading documents okay document
reading
is your specialty that this is
the Trump
Saudi and CIA findings one
president
Trump taking sides with the
Saudi
government yet again he's
doubling down
on his rejection of the CIA
assessment
of the murder of journalist
Jamal
Khashoggi and define coasts to
pollen
and punish the Saudis joining
me now is
Rhode Island senator Jack Reed a
Democrat on the Senate Armed
Services
Committee Senator Reid great to
have you
on new day I want to start thank
president's comments on the
these really
refuting the CIA findings
okay the CIA findings
have you read the findings why
not
there's no findings there's no
report
that doesn't look as far as
Jesus said
right there on CNN he
repudiated the
CIA's findings yeah I don't
think he
refuted even the findings he
said
there's no clear report that's
what I
remember no clear report that's
what I
there's no report we had the
Washington
Post come out and say according
to
sources people familiar with
the matter
not allowed to speak on the
record
because they were not
authorized but
there's no report to my
knowledge still
can't they make it more clear
sounds to
me from that question that
there's a
report and there's findings
so I guess not is that what
you're
saying I haven't seen it I've
only I've
only heard maybe it'll be
cleared up in
the second half of this clip
that would
be good because I'm very
confused
really refuting the CIA
findings let's
listen to what he said
yesterday I want
to get your reaction now that in
conclusion they did not come to
a
conclusion they have feelings
certain
ways but then I don't have to
report
well and you can ask you can
ask Mike
they have not concluded nobody's
concluded I don't know if
anyone's going
to be able to conclude that the
crown
prince did it is the president
line yes
the CIA concluded that the
crown prince
of Saudi Arabia was directly
involved in
the assassination of Khashoggi
wait a
minute who is this speaking who
is this
speaking this is one of the guy
fortunately I thought his name
was in
there but he's in one of the
newer one
of the new Democrat Democrat
guys that
will be running one of the
committee's
he's four they're gonna bring
him on all
the time and he's just going on
he's a
Democrat Congress person
so the point that this makes
and we'll
finish the clip in a moment is
that it
was only a headline the
Washington Post
and here it is so irritating
that this
happens now wait it gets better
I'll just continue with with a
quick lay
up the washing careful the
Washington
Post only spoke of sources who
told them
that the CIA had come to these
conclusions in a report as far
as I know
unless it happened this morning
no
report has been issued no
report no
official word at all but the
news media
right down to actually the
Guardian who
used it as their pitch are just
claiming
that the CIA have made this
decision and
this is their conclusion as if
it's a
published report and did I say
that
correctly yes and if you listen
very
carefully to the woods guy has
to say
you will probably laugh right
in the
middle of the clip Crown Prince
of Saudi
Arabia was directly involved in
the way
I'm going back I'm going to
start the
clip over I'm gonna hear the
whole thing
really refuting the CIA
findings let's
listen to what he said
yesterday I want
to get your reaction now that in
conclusion they did not come to
a
conclusion they have feelings
certain
ways but they didn't have the
report
well and you can ask you can
ask Mike
they have not concluded nobody's
concluded I don't know if
anyone's going
to be able to conclude that the
crown
prince did it is the president
line yes
the CIA concluded that the
crown prince
of Saudi Arabia was directly
involved in
the assassination of khashoggi
they did
it has been reported the press
with high
confidence which is the the
highest
level of accuracy that they
will vouch
for it's based on facts it's
based on
analysis the the notion that
they didn't
reach the conclusion is just
unsubstantiated that the CI has
made
that clear so why do you think
he's
covering for the Saudis and
what can the
Senate do about it well I think
he feels
that he
has an arrangement with the
Saudis in
terms of the region where they
will act
on behalf of their own
interests but he
helps the United States
interest I think
he also has made this claim
about their
financial input into United
States
although it's widely
exaggerated then I
think he probably says
relationships
going back to previously
business
relationships and he might even
be
thinking in the future of
business
relationships with the Saudis
so he's been he's put himself
in a
compromised position where he
can't look
at the intelligence reports you
know
detached the objective way make
a
conclusion then introduce
evidence and
introduce policies to affect
the better
outcome he's he seems to be a
captive of
the Saudis actually no so he he
read the
report which doesn't exist as
far as we
know and he couldn't bring
himself to
actually read the report
properly is is
that the story if you listen
carefully
and is affected you have to go
back to
the middle of that clip he says
he goes
on and on and on about all this
report
and then he subtly says as
reported in
the newspaper now it's for it's
based on
sacks it's based on analysis
the the
notion that they didn't reach a
conclusion is just
unsubstantiated that
the CI has made that clear so
why do you
think he's covering for the
Saudis
before that it was very it was
very the
CI concluded that the crown
prince of
Saudi Arabia was directly
involved in
the assassination of khashoggi
they did
it has been reported the press
with high
confidence which is good
[Music] which is good
through it as reported by the
press he
puts it right in the middle of
all that
gibberish me up if there's no
report
he just says as we as with high
confidence Corden in the press
with high
confidence as reported you know
I packed
this time I listened to it again
not this last last time but
when you
played the whole but he got
you've even
got by me that time because I
knew it
was in there and then I met two
I should
have pulled it out as a sub
clip but
that's masters what goes on it
and it is
reported is induce and these
guys just
slap it up wearing Washington
Post by in
there and ask him oh if they'll
say the
same thing I realize we
received some
disturbing notes from people who
longtime listeners freaking out
stop
defending Trump 50% of you news
about
drug here's the sad thing for
nine years
now I'll make it eight for
eight years
we have essentially been
showing you how
the media worldwide is bogus we
never
used the word fake news as
bogus we even
use bogit 'iv we dissected it
we said
this is bullcrap and typically
that was
because they were positive
about Obama
there was lots of other
examples but
then also the guy shows up who
becomes
president who is doing the same
thing so
maybe just an overload I don't
know what
it is but people who I like as
an
overload it must be people who
I like
are getting overloaded and
they're
burning out the frying it's
completely
orange man-bat and they're just
freaking
out I got a note saying you
should if
you're gonna do all yeah you
say it's
news deconstruction but if
you're gonna
do that I want you to do some
take apart
some pro Trump stories
and I'm thinking what for my
blog from
Breitbart I'm thinking what for
my blog from
wrote from stories to take up
to take
apart we already take up we
take apart
Fox News we don't even pay much
attention to them and as we're
looking
for new the media being
disingenuous or
sneaky ORS or saying things
that you're
just throwing in crap like this
last
clip what spotting it I don't
think
doing here this is bull I've
been
thinking about some of this
help me with
this I'll just walk through it
it's not
complete it's I'm just starting
to come
for some theories it's
completely it's
not an issue for me or you or
anyone to
bring up the theory that we may
be
living in a simulation this has
been
declared by people who are
adored by
left right center and
everywhere Elon
Musk Jeff Bezos Bill Gates they
all say
it's possible that we're living
it's
actually highly likely we are
living in
a simulation so this is not a
crackpot
theory this is something that
we can
talk about you can't scoff at
me for
what I'm about to say if it's
true that
we're living in a simulation
which it
may very well be so I think you
have to
look at it you know as an
extrapolation
just like the fern plant you
know the
leaf is made up looks like a
fern so
we're clearly creating a
derivative of
some simulation and we have
simulation
all around us and I'm gonna
take one
example where I think this is
taking now
don't do I want you to be
serious and
listen don't be theremin Amy
just listen
I left the reddit I'd never
been on
reddit I used to be in the
reddit group
around May but May was April
and I left
the reddit group and I'd really
didn't
look at it I went back a couple
months
later because they were doing
something
interesting which I appreciated
they
would take the episode and they
would
post the episode and people
would
comment on that episode of
course was
all very you know about how
we're
horrible and we defend trom but
no it
doesn't matter but it was
interesting
because there's an episode and
they're
talking about what we talked in
specific
pieces and sometimes as
I don't have maybe some valid
points and
so to me although I didn't
participate
in the conversation I would
read that
this stopped and it just became
a group
where a story about Trump would
be
posted and then the same three
or four
no Knicks handles would you know
basically goes like this post
something
about Trump and say yeah no
agenda will
never will never talk about
that with
that exact voice that's the
exact voice
actually orange man bad so that
stopped
and I couldn't figure out why
did they
stop doing it you know is that
because
I'm not participating and I
think that's
a lot of ignorance right if I
say huh
I agree disagree then you know
you get a
whole crowd jump and people
start to
post I was able to correlation
is not
causation but we had excellent
transcripts for a while which
were being
done through I believe the
Amazon
transcription engine by our
buddy Tom a
clogged woggie in Australia and
he has a
website and a translations na
translations dot online and he
even made
them in opml so I they were
completely
machine readable and I put them
in the
show no it's just testing it
out and
they were actually quite good
transcripts that when we
started doing
that that's when they started
posting
entire deconstructions of
pieces of the
show because of the Amazon only
gives
you so much free and we have
such a our
content is so long that Tom
could no
longer use the service because
now it
would start to cost money and
it's
really expensive so we're using
now the
YouTube transcription engine
which is
cute it sucks balls it's just
no good I
mean it's very very very poor
cuz
certainly compared to what we
had the
correlation is that those
deconstructions of each episode
of the
show stopped appearing on
reddit so if
we're in a simulation I think
it is very
possible that these names is
like
Africa's Erin van and Hart
Welsh wark
Ville and with whatever it's
like three
different people on reddit who
post the
whole day just posting stories
they no
longer have the access to the
transcript
so they don't really know we're
talking
about and now that just going
out trying
to and now that just going out
trying
something and literally just
posting and
no agenda show sucks next to
each thing
so I think that the people on
reddit in
the reddit group are actually
very
sophisticated BOTS but limited
in scope
kind of like you know they
can't really
do much more than than what
they're
doing right now without the
proper input
and I'm starting to look at a
lot of
people who I only know through
either
Twitter or even email I think
that a lot
of these just are little BOTS
spun up
just to maybe I did it myself
in my own
simulation but they just kind of
interact with the world but you
can do
things that will stop their
programming
so you can enter like a control
see on
some of them and I've had some
small
successes with it particularly
with some
email conversation we had
recently which
that we don't need to get into
but after
you said go argue with Adam
thanks bro
that was nice that was like the
shittiest thing you could do to
me are
you as you cuz I wasn't gonna
argue with
him don't but you know anyway I
really
think that it is possible that
in some
cases everyone has a coalition
of BOTS
around them whether it's on
your social
media wherever it is and you
have to
look out for them and you'll
see that
they are doing the same thing
over and
over again maybe with small the
people
who troll you on Twitter it's
it's
beyond just feel like a Russian
bot it's
really sophisticated in the
simulation
well if that's true I wish
they'd give
us more money this is the only
thing I
haven't figured out yet how do
we hack
the bots into accessing a
PayPal account
and sending us some cash
well it's not gonna be ctrl C
I'm
surprised that you actually
went back to
that reddit thing but I thought
you
definitely write about it if
what you
say is true that they were just
basically stealing or doing
which word
searches on a larger which is
doable if
I could do that do a word
search on a
very well-done transcript you
can find
stuff in there I'd be kind of
funny
and you could bitch and moan
about it
because you'd love the
intonation is
gone and transcripts you don't
know if
somebody's joking you could say
you
could be something straight in
a joking
manner and which doesn't make
sense but
you can read something in a
joking
matter that if it's you read it
it would
sound straight but also also
notice when
the NPC meme cropped up the
non-playing
character people on Twitter at
least not
really upset like you can't you
know and
I think that those were mainly
simulations this makes no sense
to have
your world filled with real
people
online it's gotta be a but just
get a
bunch of bots and simulations
that are
all running around maybe I have
a copy
of myself that is in your world
I don't
know but this it's kind of
mind-blowing
when you see that to me the
correlation
was interesting that we started
providing yes I think the
general notion
that we're all in a simulation
is
nonsense but the idea that
perhaps a lot
of the followers you have on
Twitter for
example I keep seeing him
they're
following me they try me in
every once
in a while you look at their
page
there's no background as a
picture of a
guy you feel very vague
generalities
about him he's got 60 followers
maybe
four followers maybe one
follower
I definitely think those are
all BOTS
yeah but that's just a bot
within the
simulation world I mean there's
but I'm
just saying I am looking into
this and I
am trying to find ways where I
can
manipulate the behavior of
these BOTS
and I'm having some success I
will
report back I'm very excited
about it
gives you an that I will see I
can
attribute you an that I will
see I can
I believe the whole thesis and
I would
put the Elan at the top of the
because there is a commonality
between
everybody who has this
simulation
thought and I think it really
does
connect to the better quality
of the pot
being sold in California
largely and
that's where I get my pot from
so that
makes sense it is the true red
pill of
the matrix
I mean this stuff is nasty I
was not
nasties dynamite yeah well we
got I got
that last thing I think it's
kind of
funny from the CBC is the Toy
Story
teaser which apparently to a
story I
guess is lasted or left and all
the rest
they can't get those movie
finished the
newest Toy Story and although
they try
to make ma you know about this
no no no
no isn't that this didn't steep
wasn't
Steve Jobs instrumental in that
and
Pixar and all that
I know he was but this Lassiter
is the
it was the genius to Pixar okay
and they rousted him for being
oh that's
right he was a huggers too much
over
hugging yes hunger over Agra so
they got
rid of him now they can't get
this movie
finishes so they have fake
controversies
like this which is the store
toys story
teaser which you can all go
watch and
the CBC is to notice that this
is become
very controversial because of a
new
character controversial because
of a new
[Music] controversial because
of a new
okay so this is the point where
all of
our viewers okay so this was a
teaser
obviously for Toy Story for
that that
just came out this week the
movie itself
comes out next summer but let
me explain
what you saw there so that was
four key
he is a spork kind of turned
arts crafts
who clearly is a toy but but
doesn't
want to be a toy doesn't think
he's a
toy but the the other toys
think he's a
toy and want him to be a toy
and want to
take him on on their toy
adventures
weird a kid's movie for crying
out loud
but but boy like what a premise
for our
time I think we're in a time
where we
we're constantly trying to
define or
redefine everything right we
were
talking about labels all the
time and
proud it pronouns all the time
what is a
asylum-seeker what is an
illegal alien
what is a male or female are
those
things important right so we're
always
constantly trying to define
things and
so I looked at that trailer I'm
like oh
are they trying to tell these
pics are
trying to have a bigger
statement for
the parents because those
movies are
great because the parents often
get
something from it and the kids
oblivious
these are just watching
cartoons and so
you're it sounds like you're
happy that
they're taking this on it and
Sarah I
mean you're a new mom do you
see this as
being I guess a springboard for
conversations that you might
have oh boy
Hollywood is let me give you
the premise
of this yeah so they have this
trailer
and then at the very end is
this spork
with a face drawn on it
who is objecting saying he's
not a toy
and I should have clipped that
as an eye
so maybe I'll get it later I'm
not a toy
anybody's caught up in this toy
world
and he's bitching and moaning
about it
because he's can talk and so
now it's
become a big point of
controversy
amongst the pundits at the CBC
because
well maybe somebody has to do a
transgender yes there we go we
needed
some of that because he's not
really a
toy but he is a toy so he's a
toy
self-identifies as not a toy
but they're
all identifying was the toys a
huge
controversy identifying was the
toys a huge
and the movie will be out for a
year the
pre promotion is rocking
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take
that to the bank
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all of me giveaway of your
masculinity
balls in the
that's where
this slaver
[Music] slaver
Buju stop spreading fake news
the
vasectomy does not involve
cutting your
nuts off because you know then
I have to
listen to Brian brushwood
complain to me
for another five years please
tell all
the newcomers your theory I
discovered a
book in the 1920s that I still
have a
copy of and it's a talk about
certain
medical procedures and
vasectomies are
not new and they were used in
the 20s as
a youth fix it would make you
the best
secondly was two men were told
get a
vasectomy and you'll look
younger it's
like it's like the another one
that came
along some years later was the
lobotomy
yeah some years later was the
lobotomy
there was actually a fattest
thing and
there was apparently some guy
in the in
Central Park that would give
you the
admit lobotomies without having
to
really go into the doctor's
office they
would slip a needle behind your
eyeball
and the thing was it gets was
curved
history where they could
actually Nick
and cut off the little piece of
the
brain hooks the front to the
back
[Applause] hooks the front to
the back
this is done - I dunno
middle-aged guys
I'm not sure what the issues
were
but I started noticing this
with men who
attacked mastectomy and I will
say this
not all of them but most of
them start
to look a little bit like an
old lesbian
[Music] look a little bit like
an old lesbian
there's a uniform lesbian look
there is
I think and Ellis I think that
there's a
uniform less guys I think I
just think
it's the crispys look that's
pretty much
it the crispys look that's
pretty much
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