0:00
oh you've got to get one atom
curry
0:02
Jhansi Devorah this is your
0:06
award-winning Gitmo nation media
0:08
assassination episode this is
no agenda
0:18
in the clue do in the morning
everybody
0:21
hi Madame Curie and from
northern
0:23
Silicon Valley where we're
literally
0:26
fogged in I can't see the
Zephyr I'm
0:29
Jesse boy I can't play the
jingle then
0:35
either because it's
specifically asked
0:37
if you couldn't don't us hear
that horn
0:39
yeah I guess I guess I guess it
would
0:42
work I guess I guess I guess it
would
0:44
I can hear the horn how bad is
it they
0:45
honk it is this they don't
normally this
0:48
this Zephyr guy who drives it
this way
0:49
isn't honking a horn like a
maniac like
0:52
some of these Amtrak guys is
this a
0:55
normal occurrence for this time
of year
0:56
and in the northern Silicon
Valley area
0:59
it happens okay well we may
have had a
1:03
lot of fog recently just a
little more
1:05
unusual I mean it goes back
actually
1:07
harkens back into the seventies
there's
1:10
a cycle of fog oh yes when we
were all
1:12
going to die from global
cooling cooling
1:15
and fogged I had fun reading
the climate
1:20
report that came out on Friday
get a
1:24
hold of it all I know is I have
a report
1:26
yeah yes I have similar report
I think
1:31
we'll just the girl says yes
the report
1:35
just came out and I'm already
reading
1:39
through it she's already read
through it
1:45
it's okay I have the exact same
one plus
1:48
play US government is releasing
a major
1:50
highly anticipated and by the
way how
1:52
mean how mean to release this
when no
1:55
one is watching
1:56
oh stop why the US government
its NOAA
2:04
that brought this out no man no
man you
2:08
know who did that you know they
released
2:09
that on Friday so that no one
would see
2:12
it yeah I saw that I saw that
bullcrap -
2:14
but good sounds means they
really sound
2:16
frightening because there were
news is
2:18
there's no news so this would
get even
2:19
more areas yeah exactly sure
and I think
2:22
it did the US government is
releasing a
2:24
major highly anticipated report
on
2:26
climate change
2:27
I like the highly-anticipated
did you
2:30
even know it was coming out on
Friday
2:33
in fact it's being made public
right now
2:36
as we speak of this hour 2:00
p.m.
2:38
Eastern the congressionally
mandated
2:40
report documents the human
impact on
2:44
climate change and it's cost to
the
2:46
economy now it could contain
dire
2:48
threats that are at odds with
President
2:51
Donald Trump's own
environmental policy
2:53
and own pronouncements let's
get right
2:55
to CNN's Renee Marsh for
details she's
2:58
live in Washington so you were
able to
3:00
take a quick look at this
report it is
3:03
officially being put out in the
2 p.m.
3:04
hours so right now what new
details are
3:07
we learning right so hallo
you're right
3:10
I mean this report really
literally
3:12
about a minute and 40 seconds
ago what
3:14
the government report squarely
focuses
3:16
on the human impact of climate
change
3:18
for people here in the United
States
3:20
using real-life examples stop
watch yeah
3:27
are you kidding me
3:29
take through some of the quick
3:30
highlights that I was seeing in
my first
3:31
read here it says people who
are already
3:34
vulnerable is called the the
executive
3:37
summary which is the first page
which is
3:39
what all you ever read news
media both
3:41
including low income and other
3:43
marginalized communities will
feel the
3:46
impacts the most this report
goes on to
3:49
talk about the health impact the
3:50
economic cost and the impact on
3:52
transportation infrastructure
and it's
3:55
very specific
3:56
according to regions here in
the United
3:59
States as it relates to the
economic
4:01
impact the report
4:04
it's very specific according to
regions
4:08
regions of the United States I
think is
4:12
regions that that are making it
specific
4:14
she was the worrier bids is very
4:17
specific regarding regions of
the United
4:19
States perhaps but according to
Regis
4:22
the reasons are not the
authority that
4:24
are making it specific are you
upset
4:27
about this report that somehow
it's full
4:29
of crap I mean you're not
really gonna
4:30
try and deconstruct this piece
of crap
4:33
that basically just says we
agree high
4:36
likelihood there's nothing new
here
4:38
except there's nothing new here
4:39
extreme weather which you're
witnessing
4:41
right now we're all gonna die a
cost and
4:44
the impact on transportation
4:45
infrastructure and it's very
specific
4:49
according to regions here in
the United
4:52
States as it relates to the
economic
4:54
impact the report says that the
expected
4:58
the climate change is expected
to cause
5:00
caused substantial net damage
to the US
5:03
economy throughout this century
annual
5:06
losses in some economic sectors
are
5:08
projected to reach hundreds of
billions
5:11
of dollars by the end of the
century so
5:13
quite pricey that they also go
on to say
5:17
the frequency of severity in
allergic
5:19
illnesses including asthma and
hay fever
5:22
are expected to increase as a
result of
5:25
climate change more people will
be
5:28
exposed to things like ticks
carrying
5:30
Lyme disease mosquitoes that
transmit
5:32
viruses like Zika West Nile
virus and
5:36
dengue become more prominent
when it
5:39
comes to agriculture and our
food
5:41
sources it specifically talks
about the
5:45
Midwest and it says increases in
5:47
temperatures during the growing
season
5:49
season in the Midwest are
projected to
5:52
be the largest contributing
factor to
5:55
declines in productivity of US
5:57
agriculture and obviously that
impacts
6:00
not just people in the United
States but
6:01
as we export it impacts people
who rely
6:05
on our export as well I mean
this is a
6:07
lengthy report
6:10
that's pretty much the report
we're all
6:12
gonna die if we don't hurry up
6:15
immediately and do something
about it
6:18
there's similar report like
this like in
6:20
the 80s and I mean we did every
so often
6:24
on Twitter somebody digs up
some old
6:27
article from some time in the
past 10 20
6:31
years ago saying we're all
gonna die and
6:32
it's gonna don't do something
today
6:34
let's listen to CBS's version
of the
6:36
report the extensive federal
report
6:39
details how global warming from
the
6:41
burning of coal oil and gas is
impacting
6:44
each region of the country
researchers
6:47
said climate related events are
expected
6:49
to become more frequent and
more intense
6:51
but President Trump's policies
and
6:53
rhetoric often reject climate
change his
6:56
administration has rolled back
Obama era
6:59
environmental regulations and
promoted
7:02
the production of fossil fuels
though
7:04
we're getting out in June 2017
I was a
7:12
great little edit they did
there the
7:15
production of fossil fuels
though we're
7:18
getting out that's all it took
for us to
7:22
leave the Paris climate Accord
7:23
apparently 17 the president
pulled the
7:26
u.s. out of the Paris agreement
a pact
7:28
of nearly 200 countries to curb
climate
7:31
change nearly 200 countries to
curb climate
7:32
last month mr. Trump dismissed
global
7:34
warming on 60 minutes but what
about the
7:37
scientists who say it's worse
than ever
7:41
you have to show me the
scientists
7:43
because they have a very big
political
7:45
agenda and just this week
President
7:47
Trump tweeted about East Coast
cold
7:49
weather rioting brutal and
extended cold
7:52
blasts could shatter all records
7:54
whatever happened to global
warming
7:56
former vice president and
7:58
environmentalist Al Gore said
the
8:00
president may try to hide the
truth but
8:03
his own scientists and experts
have made
8:05
it as stark and clear as
possible gore
8:16
that I wanted to get because I
think it
8:18
was worded peculiar peculiarly
warming
8:22
former vice president
8:23
environmentalist Al Gore said
the
8:26
president may try to hide the
truth but
8:28
his own scientists and experts
have made
8:31
it as stark and clear as
possible okay
8:35
no sorry
8:37
well what is that mr. Bress
heard okay
8:39
what gory the gore has been out
there
8:41
saying oh it's not believable
they tried
8:43
to tried to hide this tried to
hide the
8:45
report it's his own scientists
if
8:47
anybody's trying to hide
anything it's
8:49
going his pressure group that
keeps any
8:52
alternative opinion from coming
on the
8:55
news the White House tried to
dismiss
8:57
the report saying it is based
on the
8:59
most extreme climate change
scenario but
9:02
JB it is worth noting the
administration
9:04
chose to release it today right
after
9:07
Thanksgiving on the busiest
shopping day
9:09
of the year yes oh my god hmm
here's
9:15
what's interesting of course I
went
9:16
through the report do we know
that it
9:19
was trumps no you know what
honestly I
9:23
don't care because every single
time we
9:26
talk about stuff like that I
get emails
9:27
and everyone's triggered and
they're
9:29
people getting sick actually
sick from
9:32
hearing the name Trump in news
reports
9:34
that we play the Rhino but
they're sick
9:40
people are getting sick and I
want no
9:42
part of it so I'm not so I
don't care I
9:44
don't care what I do care about
is that
9:49
they say in this report it is
going to
9:52
hurt poor people and
marginalized groups
9:55
poor people and marginalized
groups will
9:58
die sooner from this horrible
horrible
10:01
catastrophe that's taking place
the
10:04
crazy thing is is that the
measures that
10:08
were agreed to in the Paris
climate
10:10
Accord are being put in place
in Europe
10:14
in places like France and the
actual
10:17
people that these taxes these
carbon
10:20
taxes are supposed to save are
on the
10:23
streets burning the city of
Paris
10:25
because they can't eat anymore
10:30
maybe the whole thing's a
scheme to get
10:32
rid of the lower classes I mean
there's
10:35
a report after report of Paris
I'll play
10:37
one of them from CNN and no
we're not
10:40
for a moment
10:41
does anyone mention that the
hike in
10:44
fuel price is a is because of
the
10:47
implementation of carbon taxes
they just
10:51
don't even say it I want to
take you to
10:53
Paris now stunning pictures
coming out
10:55
of there protesters filling the
most
10:56
famous street in France the
iconic
10:58
sean's out is a with fire and
explosions
11:03
in a second weekend of protest
the usual
11:07
scene of tourists and Parisians
enjoying
11:09
cafes and luxury shops replaced
by
11:12
burning vehicles as 8,000
protesters
11:15
clashed with 3,000 police in
riot gear
11:18
the demonstrators who call
themselves
11:19
the yellow vests are angry over
rising
11:22
fuel prices now police used
tear gas and
11:24
water cannon in an attempt to
break up
11:26
these demonstrations CNN's jim
11:28
bittermann is joining us now
from Paris
11:30
Jim tell us why these
protesters are so
11:33
angry well I think it started
off as a
11:36
fuel protest a week if your
honor but in
11:38
fact over the last few days it's
11:40
generalized a lot really he
doesn't even
11:44
give us the truth why they're
angry
11:47
well that's CNN in fact he
sounds like
11:49
Norm Macdonald doing it people
are just
11:53
dissatisfied with a macron
government
11:55
his approval rating has dropped
11:57
I'm worried about the rising
cost of
12:00
living about pension payments
that
12:02
aren't really making ends meet
so it's
12:05
just a generalized anger about
the state
12:07
of the economy and of course
macro
12:09
imperson macro has vowed to
continue
12:12
forward on his his ideas of
reforming
12:16
the economy here Sophie and
what instead
12:19
of explaining what reforming
the economy
12:20
means the idea is a new Green
Deal it's
12:25
the the green economy that he
supposedly
12:29
kick-starting by penalizing
people do
12:32
you know price of diesel now I
now I'm
12:37
not sure if it's diesel or
regular
12:38
petrol one of the two diesel
diesel
12:40
whenever 30 30
12:42
before take contradicts your
report a
12:44
little bit come on went up 30
cents they
12:48
are now paying the equivalent
of seven
12:50
dollars per gallon seems a bit
high I
12:56
think people just had enough
and they
12:58
heard a lot of people say that
today you
13:00
heard a lot of people calling
for Mac
13:02
Rawls resignation now here on
the shows
13:04
that he say this is not the
scene you
13:06
would expect on the Saturday
night
13:07
following Black Friday you
would think
13:09
there'd be a lot of people out
in that
13:11
sort of thing people today were
13:13
protestors throughout the day
and only
13:15
about an hour ago it or so did
the
13:17
police make a move with an Asst
major
13:20
assault on the avenue here with
multiple
13:22
trucks and hundreds of police
to clear
13:24
away the demonstrators and for
the most
13:26
part they've succeeded there
are still a
13:28
few pockets of resistance along
here we
13:31
haven't heard from a colonel
13:32
all day until very late this
evening
13:34
when he put out this tweet he
said
13:36
thanks to all the law
enforcement you
13:38
expect that but he said shame
on all the
13:40
people who assaulted them shame
on those
13:42
who voluntarily assaulted
citizens and
13:45
reporters shame on those who
tried to
13:47
intimidate our elected
officials so you
13:50
have him taking a very kind of
13:52
professorial perhaps
paternalistic
13:54
challenge something that he's
been
13:55
criticized for in the past okay
I'd love
13:58
to hear your case first before
you play
14:01
in my tab which I believe is
from CBS's
14:04
so many more which they do
mention these
14:06
issues that you say CNN didn't
mention
14:09
mention I've never heard that
CNN clip
14:11
before I will say based on what
I know
14:14
I'm based on this other clip
than based
14:16
on what's really going on CNN
should be
14:18
ashamed of itself that's a
bullcrap
14:21
report all of them from CNN are
like
14:23
that every single one of them
it's
14:25
getting worse at that place why
are they
14:30
doubling down on this I don't
know see
14:33
here play this is a French fuel
tax
14:35
protest anger continues to grow
over the
14:38
country's rising fuel taxes
thousands
14:40
across France are also
protesting
14:42
president manuel macrons
administration
14:44
McCrone has defended the fuel
tax saying
14:46
there necessary to wean the
country off
14:48
fossil fuels least
14:50
Handley from our partners at
the BBC
14:52
reports I'm sorry just just I
don't know
14:58
if they come back to it in this
report
14:59
when he says the fuel tax is
necessary
15:02
to wean people off fossil fuels
that's
15:05
not quite the same as saying
it's your
15:07
carbon tax which I believe it is
15:11
so now is just saying it's a
15:12
disincentive is that is that
the message
15:14
this is anything but at least
are a
15:17
little closer to the truth here
then
15:19
your report which was shameful
a sea of
15:22
yellow the protesters in their
trademark
15:24
hy-vee's jackets on the shores
ELISA
15:29
[Music] jackets on the shores
ELISA
15:31
your sorties mean business -
using water
15:34
cannon and tear gas against the
15:36
thousands of protesters trying
to
15:38
prevent them moving down to the
palais
15:40
de la concorde and the
presidential
15:42
palace which has been cordoned
off
15:46
organizers bill this is act 2
in their
15:48
rolling campaign hold on a
second i read
15:52
everywhere that there was no
real
15:54
organizers that it was
something that
15:57
originated on the internet and
it wasn't
15:59
it was a new kind of protest
well let's
16:03
look at reality here with the
protest we
16:07
always have there are always
organizers
16:10
yeah it's just I saw report
after report
16:13
that there was no central
organization
16:16
it was organic kind of like our
spring
16:22
organisers bill this is act 2
in there
16:24
rolling campaign that angry
about an
16:27
increase in diesel tax
justified by the
16:29
government as an anti-pollution
levy but
16:34
the campaign has grown into a
broad
16:36
opposition against president
and manuel
16:38
macro this metal worker says we
feel
16:42
like we've been working for
years now
16:44
and it's just extortion while
members of
16:46
the government live like
princes it's
16:50
not even possible to live
anymore after
16:52
paying taxes says this woman I'm
16:54
disgusted I'm telling you if I
saw him I
16:57
wouldn't be able to shake his
hand and
16:59
I'd tell him exactly what I
think some
17:02
here have been ripping up the
street and
17:04
trying to build barricades
17:08
but as protesters let off
fireworks the
17:11
authorities have the power to
move them
17:13
on before we talk about this I
have a
17:16
similar report from euronews
with men
17:19
honest men and women on the
street which
17:21
kind of fills this in and I
think it'll
17:23
make sense for and before you
go there I
17:27
want to mention what you're
going to do
17:28
is promote the idea that the
nonsense in
17:32
the report that came out here
that it's
17:34
going that if we don't do
anything it's
17:37
going to hurt the lower classes
yes this
17:39
is evidence of what's where
they are
17:41
doing stuff and it's hurting
the lower
17:43
classes because they're doing
this and
17:46
that was exactly like a very
tense day
17:49
on the shows a nice day in
Paris clashes
17:52
erupted between police and some
yellow
17:54
vests authorities used water
cannons and
17:56
tear gas for several hours in
order to
17:59
counter the most radical
protesters
18:01
while many regret these
incidents others
18:04
believe these methods are the
only way
18:06
to be heard by their government
18:11
interesting how every single
report
18:13
regardless of organization has
that one
18:15
explosion in it that your clip
had it I
18:18
had a clip with the explosion
this is
18:20
the second clip with the
explosion they
18:22
just edit it right had the
explosion
18:24
yeah I think there's one
explosion and
18:25
everybody used it just put it
in as a
18:27
little little
18:34
honestly what they think
they're doing
18:36
there are certainly some
rioters but
18:39
we're not responsible for that
we're
18:40
just here to be heard the
problem in
18:43
France is that we don't have a
choice if
18:45
we want something we need to
fight for
18:47
it want something we need to
fight for
18:47
they don't listen to us anymore
18:49
Emmanuelle McCall was the main
target of
18:51
the thousands of yellow vests
gathered
18:53
this Saturday but apart from the
18:55
president the whole French
political
18:57
class is criticized by the
demonstrators
19:00
I'm demonstrating because it's
not
19:02
possible anymore unretired and
we can't
19:04
make ends meet anymore it's not
possible
19:06
and I don't understand why the
members
19:08
of parliament the senators have
all
19:10
these privileges we don't
diminish their
19:11
salaries who do they think we
are
19:17
Society is that why our
ancestors fought
19:20
I love this guy he translated
the French
19:23
guy we the dogs of French
society yes
19:31
is that why our ancestors
fought but you
19:33
what started off as a movement
against
19:35
taxes on fuel morphed into a
larger
19:38
gathering against other types
of tax as
19:40
well as to denounce the cost of
living
19:42
in France and social
inequalities but
19:45
without the central structure
nor
19:47
official representatives the
yellow
19:49
vests seemed divided over what
to do
19:51
next before in the Samba seat
when we
19:54
need a citizens assembly
citizens need
19:57
to make the votes referendums
we're the
19:58
one now that we've started
rising up we
20:03
need to step up the movement
macron
20:05
won't stop until we face them
with a
20:07
general strike clearly ah there
it is
20:09
that's what's coming next
general strike
20:12
and so it's clearly there's a
little
20:15
more going on than just the
fuel price I
20:17
would say migration maybe
working some
20:19
people and just the overall
economy in
20:23
general and just the overall
economy in
20:25
just a couple of things I find
20:26
interesting about this which
isn't it's
20:28
covered a little bit but it's
not
20:30
covered well here one is they
call it a
20:35
pollution tax don't love that
yes when
20:38
we would tell my carbon
pollution carbon
20:41
tax now is maliciously used as
terms
20:43
because this and it should be
carbon
20:46
carbon dioxide but they've just
moved
20:48
that to carbon just to make it
yes
20:49
narbon dioxide tax yes is like
you don't
20:52
drink soda I like the idea of
these guys
20:56
wearing these yellow kind of
Street
20:59
workers vests now this is a
mandatory
21:02
item if for your automobile in
France so
21:06
is it yes you must have a yellow
21:08
emergency vest in your vehicle
at all
21:10
times that's not a bad idea I
think I
21:14
don't know if it's mandatory in
Britain
21:15
but I know pretty much
everybody has
21:17
that I should do that here but
I like
21:21
the idea of everybody wearing
these
21:22
things idea of everybody
wearing these
21:23
well what's cool about it is
you could
21:24
create a global movement of
yellow vests
21:27
yellow jackets whatever we want
to call
21:28
it like yellow vests is a vest
and this
21:31
is happening now I think it was
21:34
happening in Belgium I believe
somewhere
21:36
in the south of the Netherlands
this was
21:37
happening and people are
putting on
21:39
yellow vest it's small so it's
not it's
21:41
not you know - this proportion
yet it's
21:43
not on the show um cities a
with the Arc
21:45
de Triomphe in the blood
there's stuff
21:48
they're showing on CBS there was
21:49
thousands and thousands of
people with
21:51
his yellow vest yes exactly but
I'm
21:53
saying the ones in in other
parts of
21:55
Europe are starting to do the
same thing
21:56
yellow vests mean is is
happening I
21:59
think it's a good one yeah that
was you
22:02
didn't get to see because it
was pretty
22:04
visual they just kind of
mentioned it
22:06
and passing in the CBS report
was the
22:08
fact that they're literally
digging up
22:10
the street yes
22:14
I know it's great well yeah so
but they
22:20
have a little more power there
I mean in
22:22
the United States is actually
punished I
22:24
think is a felony and it's
punishable by
22:26
all kinds of horrible things if
you do
22:28
it if you even advocate a
general strike
22:30
is that the strikes are illegal
in this
22:33
country is that so oh yeah we
can't have
22:35
a general strike in United
States okay
22:38
go try promoting want to see it
but what
22:41
happens - knocks on the door
huh that's
22:44
illegal isn't that freedom of
speech
22:46
can't I say whatever I want you
talking
22:49
to the wrong guy
22:50
[Music] the wrong guy
22:52
well that's something it needs
to be
22:53
looked up uh you can look it I
think it
22:57
began I think it was either
under the
22:59
roses I think maybe the
Roosevelt
23:01
administration is the one who
promoted
23:03
that because they were having
so much
23:04
trouble with the longshoremen
and some
23:06
of these really powerful unions
we used
23:08
to have hmm
23:10
but yeah general strikes are
know you
23:12
can't do one you can't call one
in a
23:14
local area they're thinking
about this
23:17
in San Francisco some years
back over
23:18
some something some complained
and
23:20
didn't get first well you need
a general
23:22
strike if it's labor unions who
are
23:24
organizing it that's that's
what you
23:26
mean by a general strike if it
was a
23:28
general strike is where
everybody stops
23:30
working strike is where
everybody stops
23:31
yeah but you say it's illegal
to to
23:35
organize that or just illegal
to stop
23:38
working I'm not quite sure with
thee
23:39
it's illegal to organize it
right but I
23:42
think it's illegal to organize
it if you
23:44
were a union not if you're Adam
curry
23:45
podcaster no I call a general
call for a
23:51
general strike
23:54
please bail me out
23:58
I need to look this up I'm not
sigh
24:00
sounds general strikes just
look up
24:02
general strike I'm trying to
find that I
24:04
cannot find anything that says
it's
24:06
illegal a general strike is
illegal Utz
24:09
I can only find it in
combination with
24:11
the NL NLRB the National Labor
Relations
24:15
Board their section 8 prohibits
that the
24:19
general strike organized by
labor
24:21
organizations but I'm not so
sure I mean
24:24
I can organize anything I want
well it's
24:28
possible that that if you
weren't in a
24:30
labor union and you organized
the
24:31
general strike you might get
away with
24:33
it but far as I know well for
one thing
24:35
that's never gonna happen
24:36
mm-hmm but yeah we'll look into
will
24:40
report further interesting
24:45
but yeah I don't think it will
happen
24:47
but it's just it's interesting
to me the
24:50
disservice that everyone's
getting here
24:52
is like you know this report is
being
24:54
touted as oh my god it's gonna
hurt all
24:55
the poor people but the exact
same
24:58
recommendations that are in in
the
25:00
United States congressionally
mandated
25:02
report are the ones that people
are
25:05
riding over in France
25:06
weirdly some of them yeah
that's not the
25:09
elites that are rioting
25:11
no no but French do have this
odd
25:15
history of chopping people's
heads off
25:18
that they did they take their
their
25:21
protests pretty seriously yeah
25:24
so yeah well they put it seems
as though
25:27
they get to a boiling point and
just go
25:31
nuts well there's one other one
other
25:35
thing that may be playing into
playing
25:38
into all of this and it's
something that
25:40
is not reported
25:42
at all here in fact I haven't
heard much
25:44
of it only in the Netherlands
that I did
25:47
it get my attention this is the
Global
25:49
Compact for migration
25:53
which of course you know
neither of us
25:55
had heard of this this oh no
we've heard
25:57
we've we talked about this some
time ago
25:58
this is a while back right but
but it's
26:02
it's now been agreed to this
thing past
26:04
and what that means is it's
just it's
26:06
just an agreement it's not
legally
26:08
binding except in multiple
Europe
26:11
European countries including the
26:14
Netherlands in there in their
26:16
constitution that ground laws
as they
26:19
call them the you know the bit
there
26:20
basis laws it's clearly states
I think
26:23
it's article 94 that any
European
26:29
agreement or treaty supersedes
national
26:33
national laws and people in the
26:36
Netherlands are very upset
about this
26:40
okay expecting well I'm telling
you
26:43
they're in the EU but here's
here's what
26:46
the compact says refugees and
migrants
26:50
are entitled the same universal
human
26:52
rights and fundamental freedoms
which
26:53
must be respected protected and
26:55
fulfilled at all times
26:56
however migrants and refugees
are
26:59
distinct groups governed by
separate
27:00
legal frameworks only refugees
are
27:03
entitled to specific
international
27:04
protection as defined by
international
27:06
refugee law this Global Compact
refers
27:08
to migrants and presents a
cooperative
27:11
framework addressing migration
in all
27:13
its dimensions I could go
through every
27:17
single article and what this
came up in
27:20
the conversation because Trump
refused
27:23
to sign on to this commercial
agreement
27:25
and there's a big stink about
it yes and
27:27
then kind of passed by and that
we've
27:31
long has forgotten about it now
it's
27:32
back in the news I guess
because other
27:34
people are starting to look at
it yeah
27:36
and this is the United Nations
compact a
27:38
part of the 2030 agenda for
sustainable
27:41
development and of course it
says that
27:44
because of natural disasters
the adverse
27:46
effects of climate change and
27:48
environmental degradation we
will see
27:50
huge migration they keep
promising this
27:53
and the entire idea is when
people are
27:57
on the move you sign up to the
compact
27:58
and you basically can't stop
them from
28:00
coming into your country
28:02
and that's what people are
worried about
28:04
and again not mentioned in any
of the
28:06
reports about Paris I think
that also
28:09
may have something to do with
it I don't
28:10
know about French law but you
know as
28:13
you point out slike base United
Nations
28:15
they all sign on to it or not
everyone
28:18
who signed on yet actually but
once
28:20
you're in then you're in and
then you
28:22
got to let it happen so you
know this
28:24
this migrant the migrant issue
is a
28:30
problem migrant the migrant
issue is a
28:34
well it seems to be a yes it
will curse
28:36
the compact will ensure
migrants working
28:39
in the informal economy which
is not
28:43
defined in this document but I
guess
28:44
that means running drugs
hookers black
28:48
cabs sure migrants working in
the
28:51
informal economy have safe
access to
28:53
effective reporting complaint
and
28:55
redress mechanisms in case of
28:57
exploitation abuse or
violations of
28:59
their rights in the workplace
in a
29:00
manner that does not exacerbate
29:02
vulnerabilities of migrants that
29:03
denounce such incidents and
allow them
29:05
to participate in respective
legal
29:06
proceedings whether in the
country of
29:08
origin or destination so you
can start
29:11
shit before you even roll yeah
this is
29:16
really it's really quite quite
stunning
29:18
this document develop
procedures and
29:21
agreements on search and rescue
of
29:22
migrants which now is happening
is you
29:25
know nongovernmental
organizations are
29:27
doing this they're actually
going as
29:28
close as they can to for
instance Libya
29:30
off the coast and pick them up
save them
29:33
there and bring them back the
primary
29:36
objective of this is to protect
migrants
29:38
right to life that uphold the
29:39
prohibition of collective
expulsion
29:41
guaranteed due process an
individual
29:43
assessment enhanced reception
enhanced
29:46
reception what is it what is it
29:48
directional antenna enhanced
reception
30:00
and assistance capacities and
ensure
30:02
that the provision of
assistance is an
30:04
exclusively humanitarian nature
for
30:07
migrants and is not considered
unlawful
30:09
and I put the thing in the show
notes
30:11
and I'm gonna go take a look at
it but
30:13
you get the gist and the Dutch
are very
30:15
at least the ones that will
email me
30:18
about it now seem to be very
concerned
30:20
about this
30:22
should be yeah
30:26
is interesting at the same time
when
30:28
Hillary Clinton and I have that
clip
30:32
with her interview in The
Guardian I
30:34
don't have her talking but I do
have the
30:36
report okay yeah where is it
30:38
yes it's very interesting that
this
30:41
comes into play the minute we
have this
30:43
Global Compact coming into
vision and
30:45
this is what she tells The
Guardian
30:47
Hillary Clinton has called on
European
30:49
leaders to curb mass migration
to the
30:52
continent to curb mass
migration to the
30:52
she says it's helped spread
right-wing
30:55
populism in an interview in the
British
30:57
newspaper The Guardian
published today
30:59
the former Democratic
presidential
31:01
candidate and Secretary of
State warned
31:03
if we don't deal with the
migration
31:05
issue it will continue to roil
the body
31:08
politic it will continue to
roil the body
31:09
she said it lit the flame for
racist
31:12
political ideologies in Euro of
course
31:14
Clinton's comments sparked
outrage and
31:16
confusion from immigration
activists and
31:18
European lawmakers who cited
her long
31:20
track record of welcoming
immigrants
31:23
yeah I'm not quite sure how
that all
31:25
works it was very very strange
31:29
and then finally Serling did he
at the
31:31
end he says if you find old
clips of
31:34
heard bitching about the
Mexicans coming
31:36
across the border horse of
course so
31:38
there's no consistency here but
this you
31:41
know if she's gonna play the
game of
31:43
being a progressive neoliberal
even
31:46
though there's some self
contradiction
31:48
there she has to stand one side
of the
31:51
fence with the other she can't
be saying
31:53
stuff like this
31:55
yeah I'm not sure I'm not sure
and
31:57
infused John Kerry was also
quoted in
32:00
some European publication
saying similar
32:02
stuff like uh-huh
32:05
very odd maybe maybe these
people still
32:09
think that when they do an
interview
32:10
overseas that we don't see it
here is
32:12
that possible that they did
that dense
32:14
that's your long-standing
theory maybe
32:19
it could be could be hmm
32:26
okay yes that I don't have much
more
32:29
from from Euro land yeah I
think I have
32:33
something else um oh yes I do
actually
32:38
I'm sorry it's a short clip you
know I
32:40
have several friends in the
United
32:43
Kingdom and they always like now
32:44
whenever there's a mass
shooting they
32:46
always like to send me a link
and say
32:47
how are those guns working out
for you
32:49
and I'm not kidding they love
doing that
32:52
me laughs the Brits in
particular knife
32:55
crime is at an all-time high
32:57
particularly in London you know
four or
33:01
five people stabbed today many
fatal
33:04
okay now find but the latest is
this i
33:08
love this and i think the the
police you
33:11
know the British police famous
word back
33:14
in the day the bobbies never
had didn't
33:16
digit a club Club and a helmet
didn't
33:18
have any weapons that's changed
and now
33:20
we have this new issue
33:23
people swiping mobile phones
while on
33:26
their moped so of course it's
easy prey
33:29
because you know as we know
everyone's
33:32
on their minds on their phone
holding it
33:34
the hell they're walking around
they got
33:36
two of them it's very easy to
grab that
33:38
so along comes a moped BAM
grams grab
33:41
your iPhone your you know $1300
handheld
33:44
computer and now the police
have figured
33:47
out a way to go after it it's
too bad we
33:49
don't have video for once on
the show
33:50
but you'll get the gist of how
they are
33:52
going after these moped their
cellphone
33:54
robbers London Metropolitan
Police are
33:56
tackling criminals on
motorbikes in a
33:59
new way specially trained
drivers are
34:01
using police cars to knock them
off
34:03
their two wheels or they're
forcing them
34:05
to crash Scotland Yard has
released this
34:08
footage showing how they're
pursuing and
34:10
ramming into the thieves senior
officers
34:13
at Scotland Yard
34:14
say there's no maximum speed at
which
34:16
police vehicles might hit
motorcycles a
34:18
judge says the policies for
officers to
34:21
assess the risks of a
particular chase
34:23
and make a judgment accordingly
police
34:26
say it's a miss that they won't
chase
34:27
riders who have removed their
helmets it
34:30
comes after thousands of mobile
phones
34:33
have been reported stolen by
people on
34:35
scooters nice and the video is
fantastic
34:38
there rear-ending these guys
and they
34:40
had like rear end someone on the
34:41
motorbike and the guy flies
over the
34:43
hood of the cop car they brake
he slams
34:45
off is fantastic yeah no yeah
no yeah no
34:49
there is I've seen this is
pretty funny
34:53
right and they're hitting it
from this
34:57
guy and it could cop in a car
cuz a
35:00
boring job anyway generally hey
there's
35:03
a moped guy go run him over I
cannot
35:09
imagine that wouldn't be not
that would
35:12
not be accepted in the United
States
35:14
I can't imagine no way I don't
think
35:17
anyone would say that's okay
now I'm
35:19
sure somewhere along the line
these
35:22
idiots decided that if they
took their
35:24
helmet off and throw it out you
know
35:31
throw it right and it seems to
me with
35:35
that kind of it that
35:36
set up the cops would say
here's a guy
35:38
with no helmet get him yeah
yeah exactly
35:41
no it's fantastic just fantastic
35:45
yeah he's you know I think we
may see
35:49
more crime with these East
Cooter's
35:51
wasn't there an article about
some guy
35:54
who escaped the cops on one of
those at
35:56
Bird bikes on the East guter the
35:58
electric scooter dad this I
missed yes
36:01
well actually had an interesting
36:04
Thanksgiving conversation with
some of
36:07
the Millennials here and there
was a
36:09
point I hadn't thought about is
with all
36:12
of these electric scooters and
just if
36:15
you don't know I'm talking
about us like
36:16
the kids you know step along
scooters
36:19
that are motorized these things
are
36:22
being created and built at an
incredible
36:24
rate that just being pumped out
they're
36:25
all built in China they have
huge
36:28
lithium-ion batteries either on
the
36:31
front post or underneath you
gotta ask
36:35
how long will it take before
Mundy's
36:37
turns into essentially a flying
bomb
36:40
this is explode you hit
something hard
36:43
enough you'd Ministry's have
this
36:45
tendency if you're poorly made
then if
36:46
you disrupt them with a with
you know
36:48
some kind of impact I don't
know 15 to
36:52
20 miles now or should probably
do it I
36:54
think we'll be seeing these
reports
36:56
pretty soon
36:57
yes misprediction yeah and it
should be
37:01
a terrorism threat
37:03
really yes I think it should be
a
37:06
terrorism thing I think these
easy
37:08
scooters are terrorist devices
37:12
Black Friday yes I have a clip
if you
37:15
want to intro it with sharing
with the
37:16
clip PBS the Black Friday
report yes I
37:19
would like to do that millions
of
37:20
Americans spent this Black
Friday
37:22
swarming stores and scouring
websites
37:24
for deals the retail data firm
shopper
37:27
track estimates today's sales
will hit
37:29
twenty three billion dollars
that's up
37:32
more than two billion dollars
from last
37:34
year across the country
retailers saw
37:36
the annual rush of shoppers
bursting
37:39
through their doors before
sunrise
37:40
scrambling for discounts the
vents took
37:43
a violent turn near Birmingham
Alabama
37:45
an argument between two men at
a mall
37:48
there ended in gunfire police
shot and
37:51
killed the suspected shooter an
eighteen
37:53
year old that a 12 year old
bystander
37:55
were wounded now I tried to
look around
38:00
to get some video your typical
38:02
Thanksgiving Day footage and
there were
38:05
I didn't see didn't seem like
there any
38:06
big records of people you know
trampling
38:09
each other just didn't have the
same
38:10
vibe as it used to oh we had a
lot of
38:13
good the same vibe here I
didn't get it
38:15
horse here didn't get here
mostly is off
38:18
it's you know people are all
doing it
38:20
online this year doing it all
online
38:22
shopping online though that's
the
38:24
reports I got no reports was
the same as
38:27
usual when they said it was up
two
38:28
billion which is a lot which
should
38:30
actually help things but my
favorite
38:33
thing which I didn't think got
enough
38:35
fruit care of news I put a
picture in
38:38
the newsletter of the free
shipping of
38:42
the guy dressed in a bear
costume that
38:47
get more coverage I don't know
the guy
38:50
in the bear costume so it looks
like a
38:52
cuffed polar bear you know I
think that
38:54
the Black Friday has gotten to
a point
38:56
in the US media where every
report is
39:01
probably sponsored it's like
they have a
39:03
choice of going anywhere and
they might
39:05
as well say hey everything is
good over
39:06
here well say hey everything is
good over
39:06
I'm looking to come look at
Walmart or
39:08
what it just seems like it's
native
39:10
advertising at this point you
know I ran
39:13
into a native would ie after
after the
39:15
fact I did this research there
was a in
39:17
Atlantic and people can look
this up if
39:19
you like if you like southern
cooking
39:21
and you can't could do a decent
biscuit
39:24
there's an article on why we
can't
39:26
good biscuits and it refers to
39:28
specifically soft red wheat
from the
39:31
South that is sold as
all-purpose wheat
39:35
and self-rising wheat the kind
of wheat
39:37
they sell by these various
vendors down
39:39
there it is different than the
northern
39:41
wheats which will not make a
decent
39:43
biscuit we listen to a long I
was still
39:47
on Black Friday what are you
doing no
39:50
I'm going on that gone Black
Friday in a
39:53
roundabout way I'm gonna just
39:56
reasserting a point you just
made
39:59
ok about native advertising
40:04
you said to reiterate that it
seems as
40:06
though all these reports aren't
really
40:08
about like Friday they're about
some you
40:10
know and I think this has been
true for
40:11
a few years because they talk
about
40:13
Kmart and all these other you
know
40:15
Walmart did you find another
one of
40:17
those secret shopper stories
you know
40:19
the secret donor who donated
they always
40:22
do that not find that sir but
let me
40:23
finish my I since I started a
biscuit
40:25
story should finish it so at
the end of
40:29
the article they go on and on
about this
40:32
one wheat lily-white
40:35
made out of some southern state
40:38
completely ignoring because I
did some
40:40
research afterwards and I found
about
40:42
ten of these companies that
made a soft
40:45
wheat flour in the South in
Kentucky and
40:48
elsewhere but no she has this
one and
40:52
then she says and it's only
available on
40:54
Amazon and I'm reading this
thing and
40:59
thinking about the fact that
you know
41:00
all these other products that
you can
41:01
get directly you can buy you
can you can
41:04
look it up and you can find
guys wait we
41:06
didn't Myers or some company in
Kentucky
41:09
seems like a good deal cheaper
and
41:11
better and it's got a long
history from
41:14
the 1860s but this was like I'm
reading
41:18
this it seems like a real
article about
41:20
something and then it boils
down to
41:22
Amazon's the only one who carry
is that
41:24
you have to buy from them I of
course
41:27
and I'm thinking this is
ridiculous
41:30
there's no I just was very I
was very
41:33
orchitis no I just was very I
was very
41:34
yeah people are going to be
very sad
41:36
once they figure out that
Amazon has
41:38
taken over everything there no
more
41:40
local retail shops mom-and-pop
is dead
41:44
literally retail shops
mom-and-pop is dead
41:46
it's gonna be it's gonna be
upsetting
41:48
that I think that we in looking
at
41:51
Google as the true evil Corp I
think
41:54
it's Amazon Amazon is probably
a lot
41:57
more evil than Google well at
this point
42:00
I'd say yesterday now Black
Friday I'm
42:04
is Lu's gonna stop using him oh
I'm I'm
42:07
really trying to diminish my
use it's
42:10
very difficult when you send me
links to
42:12
the SSD drive where else would
you get
42:16
those products that's what I'm
saying
42:17
it's very hard it's already
very hard
42:19
but I I do try I do try to I'm
failing
42:23
but I try I tried to get stuff
at other
42:25
outlets online but it's hard
you know
42:30
it's it's it's the the
800-pound gorilla
42:33
now back to Black Friday so as
far as I
42:37
understood from the reports we
had one
42:41
[Music] from the reports we had
one
42:43
one fatal shooting yeah sounds
about
42:46
right fatal shooting yeah
sounds about
42:46
let's see how everything was in
in
42:49
Europe where we also have Black
Friday
42:51
and they also reference another
holiday
42:54
which people called me out
before your
42:57
place can I mention one thing
when I was
42:58
there last year they were
having Black
43:00
Friday cuz I was there then in
London
43:03
and I was quizzing people about
this is
43:05
what what is what is you don't
have
43:07
Thanksgiving how do you have
Black
43:08
Friday and they all told me
everyone
43:11
said this it's Amazon has been
promoting
43:14
it interesting that's not what
this
43:16
report tells us from euronews
for
43:19
today's power-play it's all
about the
43:21
backlash against a very American
43:22
phenomenon which is growing in
Europe
43:24
backlash against the American
phenomenon
43:27
backlash let's take a look
43:29
[Music] let's take a look
43:35
Black Friday
43:37
it might just drive you to
despair
43:39
bargain mad shoppers literally
falling
43:41
over each other just to get 40%
off a
43:44
television the American
phenomenon is
43:46
linked to Thanksgiving and even
though
43:48
Europe does not mark this
holiday Black
43:51
Friday has been creeping onto
its
43:53
continent in recent years with
sales
43:55
increasing by 32 percent in
Europe last
43:58
year but not everyone is happy
about it
44:00
in France Greenpeace has
launched a
44:02
counter campaign calling on
Europeans to
44:05
ditch the park and fueled chaos
in favor
44:07
of getting active and spending
time with
44:10
family and friends so you're
gonna hear
44:12
this little panel discussion
between a
44:14
couple people I think one is is
from
44:16
Sweden people I think one is is
from
44:17
maybe Sweden or Finland can't
remember
44:19
yes so you have to get
interaction for a
44:21
second so they really kind of
like the
44:24
whole idea that you know
they've got
44:25
these sales are going up and
that's good
44:27
for the economy but it's an
American
44:30
thing so it's you know
inherently
44:31
disgusting it's just it has
Americanism
44:34
all over it it's just so we're
going to
44:37
do it a little different we're
not gonna
44:38
be as crazy as them of course
you're
44:41
only just getting started I
think that
44:42
first image and capture that's
what back
44:43
Black Friday is you know
there's there's
44:47
you know again we're talking
about
44:48
messaging so you were shaking
your heads
44:49
when you were looking at that
is it you
44:51
know is it a good thing about
thing
44:52
Black Friday itself well it's a
good
44:55
foil wallet but it's flat bad
for the
44:58
planet we are already consuming
1.5
45:01
planets we are already
consuming 1.5
45:01
every year this is a statistic
I didn't
45:04
know existed did you know we
are already
45:07
consuming 1.5 planets every year
45:11
what is she talking about the
and I
45:14
looked this up the assertion is
that
45:18
this last year or this past
year we
45:21
consumed more minerals than
then the
45:26
planet actually can provide to
us it's
45:29
like a global warming statistic
is what
45:31
it is
45:32
it's except about climate it's
about
45:34
minerals like oil yes thank you
its peak
45:37
products is what it is for the
planet
45:41
we are already consuming 1.5
planets
45:44
every year and so we really
should think
45:46
carefully year and so we really
should think
45:47
I don't it might be the
translation that
45:50
makes it funny consuming 1.5
planets but
45:54
it's bad for the planet and we
are
45:57
already consuming 1.5 planets
45:59
every year and so we really
should think
46:01
carefully what to buy and buy
quality
46:03
and of course could prize
impossible but
46:06
not just to Russian by anything
American
46:09
is do you think that's
something that
46:11
people think about especially
where
46:13
grant companies are getting more
46:14
Global's for their mobile
approaches we
46:15
can think about Halloween for
example
46:17
that was kind of introduced to
Europe
46:18
yeah you know I got people
telling me it
46:20
was bullshit that the Halloween
is not
46:22
true it's not happening in
Europe it's
46:25
even happening in France I
think that is
46:30
balanced is to try to use a
phenomenon
46:32
to promote products then
there'll be a
46:34
response of society which can
be that
46:37
harsh but also I think
imbalance will
46:38
happen but also I think
imbalance will
46:39
but very quickly Laura should
there be a
46:41
different messaging when it
comes to
46:42
Black Friday in Europe no I
don't think
46:44
so I mean I think that if it's
going to
46:47
work it will work on the same
basis a
46:48
different messaging don't buy a
lot but
46:53
by responsible wishes that
everybody
46:57
likes a bargain I mean I'm half
American
46:58
and I've actually just come
back from
47:00
the States and I was there for
Halloween
47:01
and I can assure you that even
while
47:03
people go a bit crazy for
Halloween here
47:04
it's nothing like in the States
so even
47:06
if we get that far away it's
not gonna
47:08
be like it isn't just go do
dials there
47:10
you go there you go maybe the
sale is
47:12
actually quite good that a
bunch of
47:15
haters haters who really in
haters
47:19
they're trying to make Black
Friday more
47:21
of a you know a social
experience
47:24
you know it's about press about
sales
47:28
and deals and everyone knows it
you
47:31
can't pretend that it's not
47:34
so these retailers can get in
there and
47:38
balance the books yes this move
is an
47:41
inventory turn what I saw I
won't forget
47:44
was some mini documentary on
Black
47:48
Friday and it has had different
meanings
47:50
throughout the years there was
a Black
47:52
Friday when it would end the
depression
47:55
and there was it yeah of course
had a
47:56
whole different meaning there
were there
47:58
were different Black Friday
48:01
interpretations throughout the
ages
48:03
going back you know decades but
now the
48:08
Wikipedian on shopping the
Black Friday
48:10
word it had to do with stock
market
48:13
crashes this is a bad day on
Friday but
48:15
specifically for this holiday I
said the
48:19
word holiday what is a day off
in the
48:22
United States anyway mm-hmm
Black Friday
48:24
is in the forum I'm gonna read
from the
48:25
wiki page so we can get to the
bottom of
48:27
it Black Friday's and formal
name for
48:30
the Friday following
Thanksgiving date
48:31
was you're celebrating the
fourth
48:33
Thursday Black Friday's been
regarded as
48:34
the beginning of the shopping
season
48:36
although the term brac Black
Friday
48:38
didn't become widely used until
most
48:40
recent decades when I was a
little kid I
48:42
never heard this term and I
first
48:44
started hearing it I don't know
maybe
48:47
when did you first hear it cuz
maybe 15
48:50
20 years oh no I've only heard
it in the
48:52
context of shopping what I
learned is
48:54
that in the 50s it referred to
the
48:58
practice of workers calling in
sick the
49:01
day after Thanksgiving and
that's why it
49:03
was called Black Friday
49:05
we'll hear the earliest
evidence of the
49:07
Black Friday applied to the day
after
49:09
Thanksgiving in a shopping
context yes
49:11
suggest that the term
originated in
49:14
Philadelphia mm-hmm
49:16
where it was used to describe
the heavy
49:18
and disruption pedestrian and
vehicle
49:21
traffic that would occur on the
day
49:23
after Thanksgiving and made it
all look
49:24
like black like everything was
black the
49:26
usage dates to at least 1961
more than
49:31
20 years later as the phrase
became more
49:33
widespread a popular
explanation became
49:35
the day represented at the
point of the
49:37
year when retailers began to
turn a
49:39
profit thus going from behind
the red to
49:42
being in the black yeah so it
morphed
49:45
ultimately this is a fit this
is an
49:47
American invention we rule this
is what
49:49
we do we create these types of
things
49:52
and you suckers and Europe you
49:53
particulate at it yes we're
very good at
49:55
it and we've created this began
in 61
49:58
and then morphed into what it is
49:59
probably in the 80s I think
sounds about
50:03
the timeline yeah that means
that we've
50:05
been doing is the official
Black Friday
50:08
the modern Black Friday which
means you
50:10
do retells make all their money
and that
50:11
and they all got a clue that
everyone's
50:14
gonna go shopping so let's
let's do it
50:16
this go overboard yeah that
just taken
50:19
what 30 years plus years 1891
is about
50:22
38 years we uh we'd like to see
50:25
Europeans or they don't know
what's
50:27
what's gonna happen in 38 years
from now
50:30
they could be completely nuts
well
50:32
remember we've created new
holidays we
50:35
have Cyber Monday we got the
cyber
50:37
Mondays I which is going to get
this
50:40
dude this holiday by the way
which is
50:42
not which is a bogus holiday
it's not a
50:46
holiday great marketing and I
believe
50:52
that Amazon push the idea of
Black
50:55
Friday in Europe if I'm or at
least in
50:58
London if I'm not if these guys
aren't
51:01
full of crap I would I would
think is
51:03
that if you if Black Friday
exists then
51:06
Cyber Monday it will exist yeah
I think
51:09
bamas on genius marketers if
that's true
51:13
well it really had really only
started
51:16
in the last five years in
Europe so that
51:18
wouldn't that would do I'm sure
we could
51:21
we can track that back to Amazon
51:25
probably yeah whatever doesn't
matter
51:30
it's all it's all people buying
shit
51:33
they don't need with money they
don't
51:35
have don't need with money they
don't
51:36
as so it keeps the country
going well
51:39
sadly that is the way our
country this
51:44
country works you know if I
said sadly
51:47
you don't like buying stuff no
I don't
51:50
like I will always remember
George W
51:53
Bush after 9/11 saying it's very
51:56
important we all go back to
work and
51:57
keep shopping yeah but it was
it was
52:04
kind of necessary because when
you don't
52:06
have the shopping taking place
we can't
52:08
create the fake money's to lend
to you
52:11
nothing happens if the
shoppings not
52:14
going on we're a mercantil
country based
52:17
on an oil economy let's do
something we
52:20
can't can't ignore completely
mm-hmm
52:22
and we know either one of those
things
52:24
is disrupted you're just gonna
end up in
52:25
a depression and then you get
the
52:27
opportunity for some socialist
52:28
government to take over some
bad things
52:30
to happen which is what some
people
52:32
strive for
52:34
people should shop so much well
that's
52:39
what Greenpeace was trying to
say yeah
52:41
that's what Greenpeace was
trying to say
52:44
and they're their basis for
saying that
52:45
is ill-advised I gotta tell you
just a
52:49
shopping experience since at
least was
52:52
here from school and you know
Tina the
52:55
keeper and I were nor
consolidating our
52:58
lives so you know I was
hell-bent on
53:02
taking them away from Sprint and
53:05
bringing them to my t-mobile
account
53:07
which is just better and
cheaper in my
53:09
opinion so we go to us the
coverage
53:11
there's the coverage good yeah
coverage
53:13
is really good especially up in
Arkansas
53:16
where she goes to school oh
then you
53:18
went t-mobile it's but it's
also cheaper
53:21
I like it I don't you seen the
CEO of
53:23
t-mobile yeah I have direct
contact with
53:26
John ledger the long haired
very yes
53:28
John ledger he's not a freak
53:31
he's a frigate defending your
friend now
53:36
he's not my friend but I've had
issues
53:38
and I i DM him any DMV back and
gave me
53:43
like his personal assistant to
help me
53:45
with but I was one of her in
Italy two
53:47
years ago okay but anyway but
anyway I
53:51
digress ago okay but anyway but
anyway I
53:52
so we setting up the way it
works is a
53:54
big rigmarole and you get your
hand in
53:57
your your phones and you get
new phones
53:58
back and basically you don't
pay for
54:01
anything but then it just
solves your
54:02
moved over the numbers and
moved over
54:04
and it's cheaper I guess for a
while
54:05
we'll see but two things a the
t-mobile
54:09
story were the only ones there
so much
54:11
for Black Friday it's like what
where's
54:13
all the shoppers nothing but
here's the
54:16
other thing I've always and I
don't I
54:19
have my iPhone 7 plus which is
it sits
54:22
in the corner on the charger
the only
54:24
reason it's there is it's
running
54:26
whatsapp so I can get to
whatsapp from a
54:28
web browser elsewhere I don't I
don't
54:31
use it in a little shrine no
it's on the
54:34
floor I don't use it but the
girls use
54:38
them and so they were going to
get new
54:39
ones and so they were going to
get new
54:40
uh I don't know what Apple was
thinking
54:43
I mean I've been able to keep
up with
54:44
their you know the numbers it's
seven
54:46
seven plus you know all the way
back to
54:48
the first one which I had then
I stopped
54:50
at seven and now we're up to
but now we
54:52
have thee this is still have
the ten we
54:54
have the XS the XS max the Rx
the you
54:58
know is all these different
model
55:02
numbers and there's knows like
you're
55:04
buying a BMW if you know what
it's a bit
55:06
like I'm confused about BMW or
Mercedes
55:09
numbers and you just see these
phones
55:11
there's four new iPhones next
to each
55:13
other the only difference you
can really
55:15
see is price
55:17
yeah you had the phone this
one's a
55:19
little bigger than that one and
that one
55:21
looks a little bit brighter
55:22
I think they screwed it up what
were
55:24
they thinking with all of the
it was so
55:25
easy to remember like the new
phone has
55:28
this number and there's the big
one has
55:30
a plus and now that no this one
has a
55:32
better camera that one has an
OLED
55:34
versus an LCD screen
55:37
it's like hocus I don't I think
they
55:41
made a mistake it's it's no is
I think
55:45
people just look I serve I can
afford
55:46
that one looks kind of the same
does it
55:48
work that works fine well this
is
55:50
reminiscent of apples the Apple
has a
55:53
tendency to do this they did
this with
55:55
the Macintosh once once jobs
quit and
55:59
Scully took over yeah and then
Scully
56:01
ran the business and you know
way up to
56:04
10x the company yeah and then
once he
56:07
left I think Spindler took over
after
56:10
that but once he left they
started this
56:13
weird branding of the Macintosh
the
56:15
Macintosh - there was the
Macintosh LS
56:18
there was a whole series of
macintoshes
56:22
that came out in boxes and
stand-alones
56:25
and it was really very
confusing and I
56:28
thought that you know it was
something
56:31
somewhat genius of them to do a
like a
56:35
yearly new a new iPhone yeah
and it was
56:39
gonna be this iPhone then it
was this
56:41
five than the six then no and
then you
56:44
had the plus and then the S we
had an S
56:45
cycle so you know I was gonna
be a
56:47
little color ones well that's
the RX now
56:51
the RX has the little color
ones except
56:53
you can't really get any color
of colors
56:55
because no and you know they
don't have
56:56
stock them enough yes I don't
know it
56:59
just it seems like a marketing
mistake
57:00
to me as someone who just as I
was just
57:05
like I'm not stupid I've kept
use yeah
57:08
there are people in marketing
57:10
departments that really believe
that
57:11
lots of SKUs give people a lot
of
57:14
choices is a good idea I don't
think so
57:17
hmm well I think you know we
won't I
57:20
wound up today we'll just get
him the Rx
57:22
you know looks fine
57:24
you know doesn't have this
spiffy super
57:26
camera on it or the OLED
display but
57:28
it's got the a 12 processor
57:33
oh I think you're right not
because I
57:36
think that's the googles you
know
57:38
falling it more you know pixel
pixel -
57:41
there's no I think they're up
to the
57:43
pixel three actually not a
pixel 3s and
57:49
a pixel 3a and a pixel 3/3 eyes
yes none
57:56
of that
57:56
I know yet yeah exactly
57:59
little ultra mom before we take
our
58:01
first break and this came out
this
58:03
morning I only had a chance to
listen to
58:05
it for one second this is from
CBS this
58:07
morning they are talking about
58:08
conspiracy theorists I'm always
58:10
interested what people think of
58:12
conspiracy theorists is because
I would
58:14
say that I am one huh let's see
if the
58:21
description fits what's inside
the tin
58:23
what does your basic conspiracy
theorist
58:27
look like if I ask people to
close their
58:30
eyes and imagine who that
person is
58:32
mm-hmm and imagine who that
person is
58:33
most of them are gonna think of
a white
58:34
male middle-aged and look a lot
like me
58:37
tinfoil hat perhaps living in
the
58:40
mother's basement with a ham
radio you
58:53
know we have this this movement
to get
58:55
more people younger people
especially
58:57
not your radio yeah and yet
there's this
59:00
guy like and I don't believe by
the way
59:03
that many of these conspiracy
theorists
59:06
whatever they whoever they are
are hams
59:08
I don't think that many are is
Alex
59:11
Jones a ham radio guy I don't
think so
59:14
your conspiracy theorist yes oh
okay
59:17
well no I don't think he's a
ham radio
59:19
guy yeah with that though thank
you for
59:24
making me a ham radio guy and
I'd like
59:26
to thank you for your courage
and say in
59:27
the morning to you Jonesy and
compact
59:32
for Migration Dvorak any
morning to you
59:35
Adam Curry in the morning all
ships to
59:38
sea boots on the ground feet in
the air
59:38
substr were down now all the
Dames and
59:40
all the nights out there yes in
the
59:42
morning to the trolls got a
late signal
59:45
this morning
59:45
glad y'all showed up a snow
agenda was
59:50
it no agenda stream comms where
you can
59:51
listen live to these shows
during the
59:53
day the days of Saturday and
Sunday
59:56
through Thursday and Sunday
morning I'm
59:58
rather confused now you can't
roll us in
1:00:01
the troll room we appreciate it
and
1:00:03
sometimes you get some good
feedback
1:00:04
from there but also want to say
in the
1:00:06
morning - uncle cave bear he
brought us
1:00:09
the artwork for episode 1088
the title
1:00:11
that was three chambers this
was the
1:00:13
poisonous gravy
1:00:15
it would be the friendsgiving
gravy
1:00:19
which you detailed as to how
that is hey
1:00:24
how was your friends giving you
you had
1:00:26
a friend a friends giving
didn't you the
1:00:27
kids had the friends giving you
went
1:00:29
over yeah yeah it was good yeah
the
1:00:31
gravy was good
1:00:32
that's right it I smelled it
first how
1:00:35
much did you do how much to
drink before
1:00:37
you went over uh i don't drink
and drive
1:00:40
I don't drink that much from it
okay
1:00:42
drive is conscientious
1:00:46
alright but you have two people
to thank
1:00:49
for today's show by the way I
wouldn't
1:00:51
should mention the people that
are
1:00:52
listening and I don't think
there's
1:00:53
gonna be that many because the
1:00:54
Thanksgiving Day and the Sunday
in
1:00:57
particular that follows
Thanksgiving are
1:01:00
very slow that's where most TV
shows are
1:01:02
on reruns and they even they
won't even
1:01:04
do late-night shows I'm
surprised the
1:01:06
news isn't a rerun although
when you
1:01:08
listen to the news you might
think it is
1:01:11
but we do have two people
wanted one
1:01:13
executive producer and one
associate
1:01:15
executive producer to thank and
the the
1:01:17
executive producer is anonymous
ten and
1:01:21
he gave one thousand eighty
nine dollars
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and 33 cents which is even
better than
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our 1389 he so he's a member
the 1089
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Club by the way which hasn't
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for a while it hasn't been Club
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Club hasn't been reopened for a
while
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and he did it before the news
letter
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went out which had the 1089
offering cuz
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1089 is 33 square which we
thought would
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be a big deal that turned out
nobody
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cares look at this bridge see
like huh
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you thought people would would
like the
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33 squared promotion yeah who
did think
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it was cool including anonymous
here but
1:02:08
let's see here's his note
anonymous note
1:02:11
jingles no karma wins the
classic
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software Dvorak on typing going
to be
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reimagined and re-released for
OTG
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phones and smart phones no
that's it no
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I'm not gonna do that first of
all
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you're not gonna write it I
would write
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it not gonna write it I would
write
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it's already been written what
Devorah
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Khan typing was a product that
came oh
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no no I mean no reimagined for
image for
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us I can happen
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you had Dvorak outside nations
aren't
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that good what what is this
what tell me
1:02:40
about Devore icon typing I'm not
1:02:41
familiar it was this product
that came
1:02:43
out in the I think in the late
80s maybe
1:02:46
no Andes I'm not sure from
interplay I
1:02:50
was working with them they're
good
1:02:51
software company down Southern
1:02:52
California this is long since
been
1:02:54
switched around there no know
what
1:02:56
they're doing it anymore and it
was just
1:02:59
they wanted to do this I did a
couple of
1:03:02
products formerly they want to
do this
1:03:03
typing thing but it was kind of
a
1:03:05
confused problem confusing
problem
1:03:08
because it wasn't about the
Dvorak
1:03:09
keyboard right right it was a
Mavis
1:03:11
Beacon clone
1:03:14
the name Mavis Beacon rings a
bell but
1:03:18
I'm not sure what that was it
was a
1:03:20
typing program done by I think
was
1:03:22
broderbund program done by I
think was
1:03:23
oh this taught you how to type
yeah huh
1:03:26
this was the same thing just do
you
1:03:28
still have it does it still like
1:03:30
contributions mostly saying the
letters
1:03:32
it's kind of its electors I've
been
1:03:33
hearing a B that's you in the
software
1:03:38
[Music] a B that's you in the
software
1:03:42
that's right good work
1:03:44
does it say stuff like that yeah
1:03:46
excellent job oh please
somebody find
1:03:49
this software package for me if
you can
1:03:52
give first ID to five and a
half inch
1:03:54
discs and a five and a quarter
inch
1:03:55
disks but yeah it's not there's
fooling
1:03:58
around oh the many little
things I've
1:04:00
done in people so you were
really so
1:04:02
basically you were the the
precursor of
1:04:04
the Common Core well thank you
anonymous
1:04:13
we'll get right on that
1:04:15
but more importantly thanks for
playing
1:04:16
thank you for putting uh for
really
1:04:19
giving us a boost there with
your 30
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through squared for our special
33
1:04:22
squared edition of the of the
show nine
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thank you this appreciate it
and you
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will be the sole member of the
1089 Club
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we have Mladic lemon hellenic i
think is
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his name I don't have a city
for him for
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some reason thank you - OH - I
think
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slow deck is Eleniak Cellini X
lineal
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thank ya a - or - OH - I know
jingles no
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note no nothing
1:04:51
holy crap so there was a short
segment
1:04:55
and that's it okay well look
we're happy
1:05:00
we got anything quite honestly
this is
1:05:02
used as John said these are
typically
1:05:04
very very bad bad weeks or bad
is this a
1:05:08
bad week for sure but but I
kind of
1:05:10
enjoyed the tops we were able
to discuss
1:05:12
I like the you know the the
1:05:14
globalization of Black Friday
and stuff
1:05:16
like that so I was happy to be
here and
1:05:18
the support is of course
appreciated
1:05:21
these credits we're thinking
about this
1:05:23
over the over the two days of
1:05:25
Thanksgiving we're really
you're getting
1:05:27
credits for credits which is
kind of
1:05:29
cool you know because what what
is a
1:05:31
what is a number like 1089 it's
just a
1:05:34
credit is a credit towards your
payment
1:05:36
facility and we're giving you
an actual
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credit you can use in return
it's it's a
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real value for value
proposition the
1:05:41
executive producer of No Agenda
show
1:05:43
1089 you can put it anywhere we
will
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vouch for you and remember we
have
1:05:48
another episode coming up on
Thursday
1:05:51
and she will that be it will it
be in
1:05:53
December already Thursday we
have well
1:05:57
maybe November okay there's
still a
1:06:01
chance to get corn can remain
there's
1:06:03
still a chance Bitcoin can
rebound
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everybody keep hopping and go
out there
1:06:12
our formula is this
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for hit people in the mouth
1:06:21
[Music] hit people in the mouth
1:06:32
it's a little segue here is I'm
John now
1:06:36
monitoring man Madam Secretary
yes yes
1:06:40
I'm glad you are because I
can't watch
1:06:42
it anymore it's pretty hard to
watch
1:06:44
this yes because it's pretty
much taken
1:06:46
over by the lire foundation was
burgled
1:06:49
show my Candice Bergen show
which I
1:06:51
you're also supposed to be
watching oh
1:06:53
my god that thing is unwatchable
1:06:55
well this but there was like a
whole
1:06:56
thing but did we do the ice
thing do we
1:06:59
already do that from that show
I don't
1:07:01
know I'll go look at the lire
foundation
1:07:04
is all over these programs yeah
these
1:07:06
two in particular but let's
just get a
1:07:08
little just a little G little a
little
1:07:10
knife into Russia on this
particular
1:07:12
short clip and this is at a
Leone as the
1:07:15
Secretary of State in a
fictional story
1:07:18
in this case is a spy Oh X by
talking to
1:07:22
the to the group I don't think
we know
1:07:24
anymore what Russia is or isn't
capable
1:07:27
of we need answers
1:07:31
so that's it yeah that was this
I'm
1:07:36
keeping these short yeah I
could tell
1:07:38
well I I did watch something
else about
1:07:42
I think we got through four four
1:07:44
episodes of the Clinton affair
this is
1:07:47
very interesting
1:07:48
I think it's originally a
series done by
1:07:50
A&E and now it's on Amazon the
Clinton
1:07:53
affair chronicles the really
the Monica
1:07:57
Lewinsky story and how that got
you know
1:08:01
extrapolated out of the white
originally
1:08:05
the Whitewater investigation
with a
1:08:07
special prosecutor Ken Starr
which
1:08:09
ultimately resulted in the
impeachment
1:08:11
of Bill Clinton well but the
impeachment
1:08:15
was for his had nothing to do
with the
1:08:17
Whitewater investigation and
only had to
1:08:19
do it's his testimony about
Monica where
1:08:22
he lied under oath the
interesting thing
1:08:25
as you're already starting to
point out
1:08:27
here you're already starting to
point out
1:08:29
the I did not know all of the
history I
1:08:32
did not realize there the
affair went on
1:08:35
for two years I did not realize
the
1:08:38
extent and I did not realize if
you look
1:08:40
at Paula Jones and there was
one other
1:08:45
one forget what what would
really
1:08:49
whether it really was about was
sexual
1:08:51
harassment in the workplace and
that's a
1:08:54
little different than the way I
recall
1:08:55
this go and of course this was
95 96 97
1:08:59
98 I was doing other things at
the time
1:09:01
so I didn't pay that much
attention to
1:09:02
it I didn't pay that much
attention to
1:09:03
probably didn't care but it but
you know
1:09:05
there's there's one is one
thing to it
1:09:10
really sexual harassment in the
1:09:12
workplace is a huge issue where
you're
1:09:13
doing this to subordinates and
that's
1:09:15
what the Paula Jones was about
and the
1:09:18
other and one of the other
women are
1:09:19
multiple there's a couple way
but what's
1:09:21
uncanny is the parallel and
when you
1:09:26
watch the series it's like holy
crap
1:09:27
this is exactly the type of
thing that's
1:09:30
happening to Trump today right
it means
1:09:34
right down to the same issues
the same
1:09:36
defense the same attacks the
differences
1:09:39
you know Trump so as far as we
know paid
1:09:44
off you know hookers and porno
stars to
1:09:49
have sex with him wasn't
necessarily
1:09:51
sexual harassment in the
workplace but
1:09:55
the same idea of an
investigation about
1:09:57
something which was like man
really the
1:09:59
Whitewater yeah maybe there was
1:10:01
something with the savings and
loan I
1:10:02
don't know Clintons did have
convinced
1:10:04
Foster's death in there which
you know
1:10:06
they the Trump hasn't had
anything like
1:10:09
that yet but you know it's like
a Russia
1:10:11
investigation and revolt
eventually it's
1:10:14
like it's like the history
repeats
1:10:16
itself we love in America we
like
1:10:18
starting at the top with you're
doing
1:10:20
something really bad for the
country and
1:10:22
we bring it all the way down to
a hooker
1:10:24
and to sex and that's all that
we seem
1:10:27
to be able to do is bring it
down to
1:10:30
someone having sex with
somebody else
1:10:32
and the D parallel is just
uncanny you
1:10:35
don't think it is but when you
see the
1:10:36
series you're like holy crap
and just as
1:10:39
bad by the way the name-calling
the
1:10:42
horrible press reports very
similar no
1:10:46
wonder no wonder Hillary wanted
all this
1:10:49
no wonder she's enlisted of mi6
and the
1:10:53
yeah with this with steel and
all these
1:10:55
guys no wonder so are you
implying that
1:10:58
this was your only way of
getting sex no
1:11:02
that's not what I'm implying
but it
1:11:05
sounded like it's very it's very
1:11:07
interesting to watch I think
I've seen
1:11:09
four or five must've been a
nightmare to
1:11:12
clear all of that it's just all
these
1:11:14
news reports very good and very
little
1:11:17
of Hillary you know it's really
about
1:11:19
Bill about what he was doing
and montt
1:11:21
it's Monica story I guess but
you know
1:11:23
look at all the the details
1:11:26
definitely a recommendations
we're
1:11:28
enjoying it very much
1:11:31
good yeah I was thinking of uh
equalizer
1:11:37
2 or something I saw I saw
equalizer two
1:11:40
on the plane yeah what'd you
think
1:11:45
and you know it's like ends
well that
1:11:48
all's well that ends well can
we just
1:11:51
have the guide everyone died at
the end
1:11:53
and just end it always has to
end in a
1:11:55
great way yes as modeled after
a lot of
1:12:00
people haven't seen in this
Denzel
1:12:02
Washington right that's what
we're
1:12:03
talking about yeah yeah III see
it
1:12:06
modeled after a classic Hong
Kong style
1:12:09
a movie where there's some
horrible
1:12:12
thing that happens at the
beginning and
1:12:14
then the rest of it is is
revenge
1:12:18
yeah and then at the very end
it took
1:12:20
classic Hong Kong movie that
would
1:12:23
mostly in the 80s John Woo and
some of
1:12:26
these directors came out of
this john
1:12:28
run this genre was very simple
and I
1:12:30
think the Punisher would be
wanted
1:12:32
there's a whole horrible
horrible look
1:12:37
like a prosper yeah it was very
1:12:40
ridiculously graphic and people
and then
1:12:43
they've done a revenge thing
starts to
1:12:45
get back at all the people that
did the
1:12:47
bad deed and the whole thing is
a chase
1:12:48
movie after that and then at
the very
1:12:50
end of these movies typically
they get
1:12:54
all the kill everybody
everybody's
1:12:55
injured and then the a house or
a
1:12:57
building or something blows up
and then
1:13:00
they shoot it from about 40
angles and
1:13:02
there's a boil up blow up blow
up blow
1:13:04
up so it's not just one
explosion it's
1:13:06
like the same explosions shot
from 50
1:13:08
angles and then the heroes are
all beat
1:13:11
to crap and they're limping and
they get
1:13:13
crutches and they walk into the
sunset
1:13:17
and here's the thing I was
wondering how
1:13:21
could I have ever missed the
enforcer
1:13:23
part one I mean what happens
well of the
1:13:28
equalizer whatever it is the
equalizer
1:13:30
part one was a good movie well
it was go
1:13:35
back and watch that I don't
think so it
1:13:36
was a great err airplane movies
to me it
1:13:39
felt like my agenda is Mission
1:13:42
Impossible the newest one that
they just
1:13:44
finally put on DVD felt to me
like this
1:13:46
was Denzel getting a house and
you know
1:13:48
some valley or something yeah
do this do
1:13:53
it number two but he did it
anyway
1:13:54
now speaking of movies in
Hollywood
1:13:57
we get a rare opportunity today
as the
1:14:00
MPAA the Motion Picture
Association of
1:14:04
America has uncloaked its true
mission
1:14:10
had we had net neutrality and I
think
1:14:14
now this could still be
implemented of
1:14:15
course in California where as
far as I
1:14:17
know the net neutrality laws
have passed
1:14:20
and as specifically although
billed as
1:14:24
hey man no one can slow down
your
1:14:26
Netflix or even slow down your
no agenda
1:14:29
show because the old has to be
know no
1:14:31
one gets any priority no fast
channels
1:14:33
the part that this show focused
on was
1:14:36
the small use of the words ISPs
may
1:14:41
legally block unlawful content
and
1:14:44
unlawful traffic which is what
seemed to
1:14:49
be quite an issue as you know
what is
1:14:51
that's not illegal by the way
it's
1:14:52
unlawful is a little different
man you
1:14:54
can create something can be
unlawful
1:14:56
very quickly so the MPAA has
put out
1:15:01
their recommendations this is
what they
1:15:02
want legislators to work on I
believe
1:15:05
this is what they wanted to have
1:15:06
implemented with net neutrality
and it's
1:15:09
pretty interesting for four
main topics
1:15:13
that I just want to discuss
they demand
1:15:16
hosting providers filter using
automated
1:15:19
content recognition technology
which as
1:15:21
we know works really well to
the forward
1:15:25
Digital Millennium Copyright
Act notices
1:15:29
DMCA takedown essentially to
users
1:15:32
terminates repeat infringers
after
1:15:35
receipt of a reasonable number
of
1:15:36
notices and prevent re
registration by
1:15:39
terminated users implement
download
1:15:42
bandwidth or frequency
limitations to
1:15:44
prevent high volume traffic for
1:15:46
particular files which sounds
like that
1:15:49
wouldn't have fit with net
neutrality
1:15:51
anyway a green I know that does
a whole
1:15:53
lot yeah I know I knew I was
all about
1:15:59
that I know I'm just reading it
to you
1:16:01
well no of course net neutrality
1:16:03
didn't happen so maybe they
added that
1:16:05
in but even then that would not
be in
1:16:08
accordance with net neutrality
which
1:16:10
they with net neutrality which
1:16:10
supported we continue the agree
not to
1:16:15
ok yoga's MP yeah these are
guys trying
1:16:18
to protect their movies yeah
but it goes
1:16:20
pretty far agree not to
challenge
1:16:23
third-party application of
court orders
1:16:25
regarding suspension of hosting
services
1:16:27
in cases by rights holders
against
1:16:28
pirate sites remove files
expedition
1:16:32
leaves expeditiously and block
referral
1:16:34
traffic from known privacy
sites so this
1:16:37
is where it gets interesting
and they
1:16:39
continue reverse proxy servers
should
1:16:41
disclose the true hosting
location of
1:16:43
pirate sites upon referral
terminate
1:16:46
identified pirate sites and
prevent
1:16:48
these sites from re-registering
and
1:16:50
green not the challenge third
party
1:16:51
application of court orders
regarding
1:16:53
suspension to reverse proxy
services
1:16:55
ISPs should forward Digital
Millennium
1:16:59
Copyright Act notices to users
terminate
1:17:02
repeat infringers after receipt
of a
1:17:04
reasonable number of notices
and prevent
1:17:07
re-registration also
expeditiously
1:17:09
comply with document subpoenas
for user
1:17:11
information and block sites
subject to
1:17:15
court order in the applicable
1:17:16
jurisdiction and finally social
media
1:17:19
should be compelled to remove
ads links
1:17:21
and pages dedicated to the
promotion of
1:17:23
any privacy devices and
terminate repeat
1:17:26
infringers they really want to
block
1:17:30
links a site that has a link to
anything
1:17:33
which of course Google would be
the
1:17:36
biggest offender but they're
the good
1:17:38
guys and I think it's very
telling to
1:17:41
see what the the Motion Picture
1:17:45
Association of America really
wants but
1:17:48
more importantly they claim
that they
1:17:51
have the right to do this
because of the
1:17:54
Constitution and yeah I want to
read
1:17:59
this to you because I actually
looked
1:18:00
into it to try and figure out
what they
1:18:02
meant let me see where it is
where's the
1:18:07
they call it the I think they
call it
1:18:10
the copyright clause although
that's not
1:18:12
what it's called in the
Constitution on
1:18:15
a second so why can't I find
this
1:18:16
copyright so they released a
very large
1:18:20
document the MPAA and this is
what it's
1:18:23
what is actually
1:18:24
call this they call it if their
1:18:26
rationale for all of these
horrible
1:18:28
things they want to implement
and they
1:18:31
say that they they cite here
1:18:33
specifically respect for
copyright
1:18:35
driving innovation and
competition and
1:18:38
here's what they say which i
think is
1:18:40
very disingenuous respect for
copyright
1:18:43
helps drive this creative and
economic
1:18:46
activity making the United
States the
1:18:48
global leader in the creation
of content
1:18:51
enjoyed worldwide and here it
comes
1:18:54
the Constitution's copyright
Clause
1:18:57
recognizes that securing the
rights of
1:19:00
creators in the fruits of their
1:19:01
creativity including to
determine how to
1:19:04
disseminate their works
increases both
1:19:07
the production and distribution
of
1:19:09
content to the ultimate benefit
of the
1:19:11
public and this thinking to me
and I've
1:19:15
looked at several Supreme Court
cases it
1:19:18
is so contrary to what the
Constitution
1:19:21
says in my humble
constitutional opinion
1:19:24
well let me tell you what I
think well
1:19:26
let me no you can't because you
come in
1:19:27
after I've told you section 8
of the
1:19:30
Constitution indeed has the
following
1:19:33
clause which is not titled the
copyright
1:19:36
clause it's just a part of
section 8 of
1:19:38
the Constitution and it goes as
follows
1:19:40
to promote the progress of
science and
1:19:44
useful arts by securing for
limited
1:19:47
times to authors and inventors
the
1:19:49
exclusive right to their
respective
1:19:51
writings and discoveries that
is one of
1:19:55
the powers Congress has and
they somehow
1:19:58
believe that this means that
this is to
1:20:03
let content creators enjoy the
fruits of
1:20:07
their labor but that end and
they say
1:20:10
distribution is a part of this
clause by
1:20:13
taking the word promotion and
progress
1:20:15
and saying oh that's about
distribution
1:20:18
so we our distribution needs to
be
1:20:20
protected this is all they lay
this all
1:20:23
out but really what I believe
the
1:20:25
Constitution says and I am
interested in
1:20:27
what you have to say is they're
not
1:20:29
about you have to say is
they're not
1:20:31
making more money for the
creator
1:20:33
they're saying to promote the
progress
1:20:35
of science and the useful arts
that
1:20:37
would be technology for the
people by
1:20:40
securing for limited times to
authors
1:20:43
and inventors the exclusive
right and
1:20:45
now of course the limited time
has
1:20:47
become the lifetime of the
creator plus
1:20:51
70 years and it's plus I think
95 it was
1:20:54
a corporation 50 years yeah
it's it's
1:20:57
insane what that's become and
this is
1:20:59
aching this is something that
should
1:21:02
really be revisited at a
Supreme Court
1:21:06
level it is just disgusting the
way they
1:21:09
are taking this clause and
turning it
1:21:11
into something for the Creator
no it was
1:21:14
so that people could receive
useful
1:21:16
knowledge and information to
build upon
1:21:19
to promote for the people not
for your
1:21:22
profit promote for the people
not for your
1:21:24
I'm interested to hear what you
have to
1:21:25
say about it copyright law was
to
1:21:28
protect the creator for 26
years and
1:21:32
then he could renew it for
another 26
1:21:34
years if he wanted to and then
it'd go
1:21:36
into the public domain where
which means
1:21:38
Mickey Mouse for example should
be in
1:21:40
the public domain by this law
and social
1:21:42
Donald Duck and all the rest of
these
1:21:43
Disney things and the
1:21:49
and the idea was so the guy who
did the
1:21:51
invention of the creation would
even
1:21:53
though there's patent laws that
also
1:21:55
protect those guys would would
you know
1:21:58
make out from you want to be
creative
1:22:00
but it wasn't for life and it
wasn't
1:22:03
like for anything it wasn't for
1:22:05
something you could just sell I
mean now
1:22:07
it's become a commodity you
create
1:22:09
something and you sell it to
somebody
1:22:10
else and then they now own it
that's not
1:22:12
protecting the Creator let me
give this
1:22:15
room it that he gets the check
but what
1:22:17
I'm the whole thing is this but
what I'm
1:22:19
saying the whole thing is this
but what I'm
1:22:19
so I'm disagreeing with you
here because
1:22:21
I do not believe that this was
to
1:22:24
protect the Creator no is not
to just
1:22:28
protect the Creator it is to
have a time
1:22:30
limit where the actual
invention can
1:22:33
help the general public that is
the the
1:22:36
distribution part to progress
to give it
1:22:39
to the to the people at large
in the
1:22:41
public domain of twenties
distribution
1:22:42
for 26 years was just arbitrary
there's
1:22:45
no there's no rule that says 26
years
1:22:47
that was just made up and now
it's been
1:22:49
extended to as you say you know
150
1:22:51
years is about the lifetime of a
1:22:53
copyright or a patent yeah
everybody's
1:22:55
dead or a patent yeah
everybody's
1:22:58
he had no the yeah no I said it
twice
1:23:00
now the point was yeah they get
1:23:03
protected for 26 years because
they
1:23:05
otherwise it would just be like
this
1:23:07
stuff would be stolen instantly
so you
1:23:09
wouldn't have to be able to
even do a
1:23:10
mag seems right but do you lit
enjoy
1:23:13
that's not paying anything for
anything
1:23:14
like because it's just easy to
steal and
1:23:17
so they have to protect this
guy for a
1:23:19
while and then it was supposed
to go
1:23:21
into the public domain which I
did say
1:23:23
and that was what benefited the
public
1:23:26
where you could you know work
upon it
1:23:27
use it for something else you
could read
1:23:30
jigger it you could rewrite it
do you do
1:23:32
other things with it well and
that all
1:23:34
I'm saying is it patents the
Motion
1:23:36
Picture Association of America's
1:23:37
interpretation of the
Constitution has
1:23:40
been debunked by as far back as
Justice
1:23:44
Brennan that this is not that
is not
1:23:46
intended to secure the rights
of the
1:23:49
creators and the fruits of their
1:23:50
creativity to ultimately
benefit the
1:23:53
public because it doesn't
benefit the
1:23:55
public it benefits the
corporations at
1:23:57
this point and it's just I'm
just blown
1:24:01
away by how they think that
that's what
1:24:03
that constitutional clause
means in
1:24:06
Section eight
1:24:10
it's all about them well yes it
is and
1:24:13
what they're and they're
screwing
1:24:14
themselves because now we've
gotten to
1:24:16
this point we have too many
services
1:24:19
that's why we're gonna see
people start
1:24:21
stealing content again cuz you
know
1:24:23
again in MPs in bigger numbers
I think
1:24:27
it definitely got better with
easy
1:24:29
access through Netflix but then
you have
1:24:31
Netflix you have Amazon you
have Hulu
1:24:33
you have to have five hundred
dollars
1:24:34
worth of of subscriptions if
you don't
1:24:37
want to have FOMO and want to
watch the
1:24:39
latest coolest show so of
course people
1:24:41
don't do that No
1:24:44
you can't monetize the there is
the cord
1:24:48
cutting phenomenon which is
partly due
1:24:50
this overpricing mm-hmm partly
due it's
1:24:52
because of the overpricing yes
and the
1:24:56
kind of the scamming aspect of
bundling
1:24:58
I mean if you get a
subscription to say
1:25:00
how many people watch more than
one or
1:25:03
two movies a month on Showtime
1:25:07
HBO stars and all these other
things
1:25:10
that you subscribe to in a
bundle and it
1:25:12
cost you a lot of money and
you're
1:25:13
really just seeing two movies
yeah you
1:25:16
have the access that the whole
thing
1:25:17
needs to be rethought and the
MPAA is to
1:25:21
me that I'm making the same
kind of
1:25:22
mistake to the RIAA made when
they
1:25:25
brought to the public's
attention the
1:25:26
fact that you could get mp3's by
1:25:29
downloading them for free which
was just
1:25:32
an underground thing for years
yeah it
1:25:35
was usually done by DJs and
people that
1:25:37
you know they just really
couldn't put a
1:25:39
collection together and it was
1:25:40
underground trading and college
kids
1:25:43
were the biggest probably the
biggest uh
1:25:45
thieves they had many of the
college
1:25:49
networks had all these songs
that had
1:25:50
somebody slipped onto the
network to
1:25:52
school didn't even know about
it and
1:25:54
they were trading back and
forth and
1:25:55
listening the music college kids
1:25:57
couldn't afford to buy all
these songs
1:26:00
and albums and most of them
weren't that
1:26:01
good at the time and then but
it was
1:26:04
just underground it stayed that
way
1:26:05
until the RIAA came up and
brought it to
1:26:07
the attention of the public at
large hey
1:26:10
look what's going on and the
next thing
1:26:12
you know everyone's saying yeah
oh this
1:26:15
is cool in the Napster became a
thing
1:26:17
because of it yes and the whole
thing is
1:26:19
really not is poorly thought
out there
1:26:22
just I mean what why can't they
bring
1:26:25
take pirates Bay offline
1:26:28
why would what do you mean why
can't
1:26:30
they who's they
1:26:31
they are their MPAA their there
in that
1:26:35
document you just read they're
talking
1:26:37
about sources of distribution
they can't
1:26:39
how they have to they can't and
that's
1:26:41
why net neutrality was needed
and now
1:26:43
that as I said as I preface this
1:26:45
decloaking shows what they
wanted to do
1:26:47
at the ISP level they want to
shut you
1:26:49
down under the unlawful content
unlawful
1:26:52
network traffic clauses that's
the point
1:26:55
they can't you can't shut down
these
1:26:58
torrents you can't shut down
stuff it's
1:27:00
peer to peer it's always going
to be
1:27:02
around that's where they're
going after
1:27:04
the ISPs and we only have four
of them
1:27:07
they'll have a few real ISPs
certainly
1:27:10
in the United States and they
just want
1:27:12
to block that traffic off it's a
1:27:13
referral link it's a proxy link
its
1:27:16
torrent traffic
1:27:18
well and they have agreements
and they
1:27:21
have agreements with all the
payment
1:27:22
services so they um Cass
Comcast it's in
1:27:28
their interest to block those
things
1:27:30
because they sell movies yeah
there are
1:27:34
you know Netflix clone that
they you
1:27:37
know if you're Comcast customer
you can
1:27:39
get most of the ISPs doing rent
this
1:27:42
movie it's new rent this movie
three
1:27:44
bucks four bucks whatever it is
and they
1:27:46
would love to be able to block
this
1:27:48
stuff but I don't know how are
they
1:27:49
gonna get around the technology
1:27:50
technology I'll strip these
guys are
1:27:53
slow on the draw they're not
1:27:54
technologists they're a bunch
of beer
1:27:56
we've already agreed on this
point
1:27:59
several times in the past this
is what
1:28:02
they every time you turn around
now you
1:28:03
have the VPN can go but past
all this
1:28:06
stuff and what are they gonna
do about
1:28:07
it and what are they gonna do
about
1:28:07
this is exactly what they said
they want
1:28:10
they wanted to mandate that
referring
1:28:12
link traffic from VPNs would be
1:28:14
available so they would know if
both
1:28:17
sides a if the hosting part was
in it
1:28:19
where that originated from or
if you
1:28:21
were accessing from the wrong
country
1:28:23
for some source something
you're not
1:28:25
supposed to retrieve you go to
the okay
1:28:28
you take your VP and everyone
has one
1:28:30
I say bytes they have to use
the rest of
1:28:32
this show have a VPN
1:28:36
you're just making buy things
for me I
1:28:37
don't understand what you're
doing I'm
1:28:38
gonna make your point for free
that's
1:28:40
because apparently it can't
make it to
1:28:41
me but I'm gonna make it to you
so you
1:28:44
get out these VPNs or pastand
are
1:28:45
encrypted every which way
they're
1:28:48
encrypted to the VPN they're
encrypted
1:28:51
from the VPN they're encrypted
from the
1:28:52
VPN to the other site and the
other side
1:28:54
back and forth I don't care
what kind of
1:28:58
deep packet sniffing you do to
just look
1:29:01
at this data stream that's just
an
1:29:03
anonymous data stream coming
and this is
1:29:05
a bunch of nothing I don't see
how
1:29:07
you're gonna be able to
determine that
1:29:08
as a BitTorrent stream or
anything else
1:29:11
for that matter
1:29:12
these guys are fooling
themselves
1:29:14
they're charging money to fool
1:29:17
themselves they're charging
money to
1:29:19
somebody this is not being done
if you
1:29:21
wanted to do this you have to
do some
1:29:23
other way open your mind what I
said was
1:29:25
they decloaked
1:29:27
what they wanted to have happen
with net
1:29:30
neutrality in place if net
neutrality
1:29:34
was the law they would have
easily as in
1:29:37
California I also said that as
I said
1:29:40
we'll have to see what happens
in
1:29:42
California if it was the law
you better
1:29:44
believe they would have ways to
say
1:29:46
unlawful traffic unlawful
content coming
1:29:49
from these IP addresses their
VPNs their
1:29:52
proxy servers they would have
every
1:29:54
right and the ISPs would have
to comply
1:29:56
that's my only point they have
to make
1:29:59
VPNs illegal
1:30:02
no you can't tell it's not an
unlawful
1:30:06
traffic unlock yes unlawful
traffic or
1:30:10
unlawful content they could
easily have
1:30:13
said that IP address is a VPN
it's a
1:30:17
proxy server that's serving VPN
clients
1:30:20
that needs to be blocked at the
ISP
1:30:21
level that was the plan all
along one of
1:30:24
the blends now I think you can
I think
1:30:27
you definitely can of course
you can
1:30:29
that would be it's too late
these guys
1:30:32
are always too late
1:30:35
yeah I mean I'd like to see him
try
1:30:39
yeah I mean what do you do
about banks
1:30:43
what do you do about these in
these
1:30:45
these kind of encrypted systems
that
1:30:49
have to exist or these
companies can't
1:30:51
do business so it would have
been a
1:30:53
nightmare yes nothing they're
gonna get
1:30:56
anywhere and I think what's
interesting
1:30:57
is let's see how it works in
California
1:30:59
because they are going to start
suing
1:31:01
California now has these laws
on the
1:31:03
books you'll see we're gonna
find out
1:31:05
exactly what would have
happened and
1:31:06
it's probably gonna happen in
California
1:31:08
because of the net neutrality
laws that
1:31:10
include those those clauses
those I
1:31:13
think in California which is
where you'd
1:31:15
think it would happen because
of course
1:31:17
they put net neutrality and
California
1:31:19
is also the home of all these
these
1:31:22
content producers down in
Hollywood
1:31:24
mm-hmm yeah you'd think that
this would
1:31:27
be the perfect place for a
testing
1:31:29
ground but because of the of
the the
1:31:31
crunchiness of the pole state
and the
1:31:34
way everyone sees things
implement
1:31:37
anything that would have attack
an ISP
1:31:38
because the besides having
Hollywood we
1:31:41
also have the largest tech
community I
1:31:43
believe in California now and
they're
1:31:46
not gonna let this give me
their fortune
1:31:49
that's rather jollity is not
killing
1:31:50
VPNs not yet not yet but show
will be
1:31:56
long over by the time they get
that far
1:31:59
you know if there's only one
thing I'd
1:32:01
'mentally disagree with is you
base a
1:32:04
lot of your assumptions of when
1:32:06
something will happen on old
situations
1:32:08
before social media before this
in fact
1:32:12
often before the internet
Facebook is
1:32:14
gonna die in our lifetime John
and will
1:32:16
without even without a
competitor in a
1:32:18
Facebook it's going to happen
people
1:32:21
people have choices for other
things
1:32:22
they get fed up they have other
things
1:32:24
to do in life all on their
phone but
1:32:26
they still have other things to
do they
1:32:28
leave things things will happen
fast
1:32:30
I really believe things happen
faster
1:32:33
yeah I know you've believed
they but I
1:32:35
think your belief in this in
1:32:37
particularly with Facebook is
wishful
1:32:38
thinking more than it is
objective
1:32:40
analysis oh okay you hope it
does no I
1:32:44
don't care I really don't care
one way
1:32:46
or the other i say this that i
yes i do
1:32:49
base things on things like you
say on
1:32:52
the past
1:32:52
because people predicting I'd
be the
1:32:54
demise of IBM you know during
when the
1:32:57
microcomputer came but us the
end of IBM
1:32:59
the microcomputer is gonna take
them out
1:33:01
that's about time and it was
the same
1:33:04
thing that we did the internet
then we
1:33:08
didn't have the same
infrastructure so
1:33:10
of course what well speaking of
crunchy
1:33:13
then let me take us on a
different topic
1:33:15
with something to listen to
podcast
1:33:19
advertising we don't do it
1:33:21
then there's reasons why we
don't do it
1:33:23
but I have a piece of podcast
1:33:25
advertising that is running
rampant you
1:33:27
know we've had the Squarespace
we've had
1:33:29
the what's the underwear
everyone was
1:33:30
advertising oh god there's an
underwear
1:33:33
thing going around you're right
and also
1:33:35
the mattresses yeah it's Casper
the
1:33:36
mattress what was the what's
the the
1:33:40
hell was that the come on Joe
Rogan has
1:33:44
them as a sponsor I don't know
the
1:33:47
underwear yeah it's underwear
thing it's
1:33:49
like the perfect fit they're
great it's
1:33:55
like some special underwear
company that
1:33:58
the tonnage um Tommy John there
we go
1:34:01
thank you troll room Tommy
Jerry me
1:34:03
undies another one already
competitors
1:34:08
it's pathetic if they're selling
1:34:09
underwear on the podcasts oh it
gets
1:34:11
better on the podcasts oh it
gets
1:34:12
this is a live Reed which I've
always
1:34:14
believed is the way if you're
gonna do
1:34:16
advertisements you got to do
live Reed's
1:34:17
I think that's the way to go I
still
1:34:20
don't think the month the
network can be
1:34:21
monetized properly but I've
always
1:34:23
believed in the endorsement
model this
1:34:25
is the talk nerdy podcast not
something
1:34:29
I listen to I actually got this
from one
1:34:31
of our Knights sir rod mr.
atomic Roddy
1:34:34
is it a nuclear expert and he
was a
1:34:39
command yeah he was coming he
commanded
1:34:42
us a nuclear submarine for a I
always
1:34:45
mess it up but anyway you know
he's he's
1:34:47
not a dumb guy so whatever this
podcast
1:34:49
is it's interesting to him and
therefore
1:34:51
interesting in general but this
is how
1:34:54
the show opens with their live
read
1:34:56
commercial enjoy want to take a
quick
1:34:58
break to thank the sponsors of
this
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week's episode starting with
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for yummy snacks made with
cricket
1:35:06
powder they taste really good
they're
1:35:10
good for you and of course I
think
1:35:12
what's the most important about
them is
1:35:14
that they're all about
sustainability
1:35:16
this is the future of food you
guys so
1:35:19
these are snacks crackers and
protein
1:35:23
bars that are made from cricket
by the
1:35:27
way I think the read is one of
the best
1:35:29
ever I think the read is one of
the best
1:35:29
cricket powder so don't worry
there's no
1:35:31
antennas or legs they're like
weird
1:35:33
little crunchy bits it's all
powder you
1:35:36
don't know there's crickets in
there
1:35:38
except you know cognitively
which is
1:35:40
good because you really do feel
good
1:35:42
eating these protein bars
they're
1:35:43
actually really delicious I
think they
1:35:45
taste better than those gummy
are you
1:35:47
ready to try one yet have we
convinced
1:35:49
you yet are you ready no chalky
protein
1:35:52
you stop just stop for just
eight
1:35:56
trying to decide if there is a
note I
1:36:00
can't say for sure but I a note
of
1:36:03
incredulity credulity with this
woman
1:36:06
trying to be sincere and though
they
1:36:08
were verses she I know she's
can't
1:36:11
possibly be sincere but she
sounds like
1:36:13
she's trying or or you think
it's just a
1:36:16
dead read but she's got a lot
of life in
1:36:18
it I can't for the life of me
can't
1:36:21
figure out this read at all
well yes I
1:36:25
think that the one that hooked
me in was
1:36:27
this is the future of food you
guys to
1:36:29
me it's like no I want to hear
about it
1:36:32
that you usually get in the
store and
1:36:33
they have yummy flavors like
there's a
1:36:37
cardamom flavored woman I'm
really
1:36:40
partial to and they're really
good
1:36:43
crackers to you that you can
dip in
1:36:44
hummus you can eat a cheese or
like swap
1:36:46
and they're free we could do
crickets
1:36:49
and hummus now you two they've
got my
1:36:50
glass of seeds and seed butters
and hemp
1:36:54
and yummy things like chocolate
and
1:36:56
dates and the great thing is
you can
1:36:59
keep them in your bag so that
you've got
1:37:00
food on the go
1:37:02
they're quite balanced you know
they're
1:37:04
they're really high-end protein
like
1:37:06
twice as much as beef or
chicken all the
1:37:09
nine essential amino acids that
are
1:37:11
necessary for muscle growth and
repair
1:37:13
and they've got other vitamins
and
1:37:16
minerals in there kind of so
they've got
1:37:18
the macro and your in nutrients
and the
1:37:20
micro nutrients that macro and
1:37:23
micronutrients this I'm
learning so much
1:37:25
from the cricket lady you need
but
1:37:27
here's some fun stuff over forty
1:37:29
crickets and every bar about
hundred in
1:37:31
every cracker bag don't worry
you don't
1:37:33
notice them they're powder for
the same
1:37:35
amount of protein compared to
people
1:37:36
remember when life was simple
and we
1:37:38
just counted the marshmallows
in the
1:37:40
Swiss Miss chocolate powder mix
you know
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greenhouse gases just for that
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they should give them a try all
you've
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got to do is go to QuickStart
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you'll get 20% off of your what
1:38:05
I just I couldn't stop
listening I like
1:38:09
you can get clip of the day for
that if
1:38:10
you want it is your option and
no I have
1:38:14
a set of clip of the day I'll
do this
1:38:17
[Music] set of clip of the day
I'll do this
1:38:27
tastes like poo NASA that's all
I want
1:38:30
do I hit that is the damnedest
thing
1:38:34
I've ever heard in terms of her
full
1:38:37
enthusiasm it's the future of
his good
1:38:40
guys she's enthusiastic
enlisted she's
1:38:42
unless she's a lizard it's the
future of
1:38:45
food you guys
1:38:49
is another thing I've noticed
how can
1:38:51
somebody do a podcast with a
try yeah I
1:38:54
don't know maybe the place is
up just a
1:38:55
humor podcast was just doing
joke see I
1:38:57
know it's called talk nerdy I
know it's
1:39:00
nerd stuff I know
1:39:03
No stuff I know
1:39:05
seems so shameless sheet lists
that's
1:39:09
Jane I used the word a lot
today but
1:39:11
this is very shameless disaster
future
1:39:13
food and they go go out and
promote
1:39:15
something like this this is and
I'm not
1:39:16
gonna say which podcast there
this is
1:39:18
but this reminds me of the guys
who you
1:39:21
they do one mattress and then
the next
1:39:23
greatest greatest and then the
next you
1:39:26
know the month later so
different
1:39:28
mattress which is the greatest
is the
1:39:29
greatest well I don't think
that's a new
1:39:33
I think I don't think the
broadcast
1:39:35
history would show that we
haven't the
1:39:38
flowers not products be Mike
Levin Mark
1:39:42
Levin not products be Mike
Levin Mark
1:39:43
and Mark Levin was going on
about one of
1:39:48
these systems where you know
you'd
1:39:50
checks your make sure that you
don't
1:39:52
have your identity stolen for
months and
1:39:55
months and months it was just
one
1:39:56
company I I'm not gonna plug
either one
1:39:58
of these companies and all of a
sudden
1:40:00
it's another company the world's
1:40:04
greatest jobs it just seems to
me and I
1:40:06
don't know if people can I mean
people
1:40:09
bitch and moan about all kinds
of it
1:40:10
dishonesty and of all sorts you
know
1:40:14
from up and down the the you
know the
1:40:15
media's dishonest the
president's
1:40:18
dishonest everybody's dishonest
but how
1:40:21
could you do a something like
what we do
1:40:23
I think is the point you were
making and
1:40:25
then do that yeah
1:40:29
yeah and then meant claimed to
be you
1:40:32
know neutral or whatever he
supposed to
1:40:34
be yeah that bull greed is the
worst
1:40:37
thing I can imagine just it's a
podcast
1:40:39
I just I like I like the
terminally it's
1:40:42
the future food you guys I hear
this a
1:40:44
lot future food you guys I hear
this a
1:40:44
oh you guys you guys I'm
assuming you
1:40:47
clip that as a nice oh no I
didn't
1:40:50
actually that as a nice oh no I
didn't
1:40:51
damn cuz that's the way they
end the
1:40:53
show now I actually I actually
I clipped
1:40:57
an ISO from
1:41:01
is it from the from the French
is what I
1:41:05
clipped an ISO from okay
1:41:07
yeah let me see what was it
there was
1:41:09
the we're talking about about
the
1:41:13
yeah about the the riots here
it is this
1:41:17
is this is the I so I clipped
what are
1:41:19
we what are we now we sheep
1:41:23
promises muddy yeah it is
little money I
1:41:25
agree there's another term that
I hear a
1:41:27
lot and because you know we
watch a lot
1:41:29
of YouTube videos to get stuff
you know
1:41:31
you just wind up watching
YouTube videos
1:41:34
this is the phrase that I'm
getting a
1:41:36
little annoyed by I'm gonna go
ahead and
1:41:41
have you noticed this
1:41:43
I have I'm going to go ahead
and start
1:41:46
the donation segment now that
you
1:41:47
mention don't be annoyed by it
every
1:41:48
time I hear okay guys I'm gonna
go ahead
1:41:50
and let John explain that I'm
gonna go
1:41:52
ahead and hey why don't you go
ahead and
1:41:55
go to the bathroom
1:41:55
Oh once you go ahead and tell
me what's
1:41:58
going on with that I this I
this is a
1:41:59
sound like Lumbergh I'm going
off the
1:42:01
space oh I hear this so much
I'm sure
1:42:05
people are annoyed with stuff
we say
1:42:07
over and over but hey at least
try to
1:42:10
retry to correct our or we do
gaffes
1:42:13
let's play something from CNN
is did an
1:42:18
interview with Chuck this is
Zuckerberg
1:42:21
and and you know he's not even
getting
1:42:25
taught him is must orchim
because now it
1:42:27
is sitting out some random
reporter was
1:42:29
probably did tech reporter and
she's
1:42:30
gonna go ahead and interview
Zuckerberg
1:42:33
and it's it's not the top level
that
1:42:36
he's used to because I think
he's well
1:42:40
can i interject yeah I think
the news
1:42:43
media's finally gotten a clue
and looked
1:42:45
at their numbers and said hey
why are we
1:42:48
giving this guy a free pass
good point
1:42:50
he's competing with us good
point
1:42:54
this is
1:42:56
you know I have my theories
about face
1:42:58
Facebook they are going to die
in cost
1:43:02
that's really what it's gonna
come down
1:43:04
to and the guitar they're tight
they are
1:43:05
killing themselves choking
themselves as
1:43:08
witness in this interview with
King Zach
1:43:12
you are CEO and chairman of
Facebook
1:43:15
that's an extraordinary amount
of power
1:43:17
given that you rule a kingdom
of 2
1:43:19
billion people digitally
shouldn't your
1:43:21
power be challenged I know that
you rule
1:43:23
a kingdom of 2 billion people
digitally
1:43:26
I know I know I know that's why
I said
1:43:29
it's like some some techy year
girl they
1:43:31
put in their fangirl to go in
the
1:43:33
interview and to be tough with
him ok go
1:43:36
ahead and I'm just gonna go
ahead and be
1:43:37
tough with him of power given
that you
1:43:39
rule a kingdom of 2 billion
people
1:43:41
digitally shouldn't your power
be
1:43:43
checked yes I think that
ultimately the
1:43:46
issues that we're working on
here you
1:43:50
know things like preventing
interference
1:43:53
and elections from other
countries
1:43:55
finding the balance between
giving
1:43:57
people a voice and keeping
people safe
1:43:59
these are not issues that any
one
1:44:02
company can address but let me
give you
1:44:04
an example of a place where I
think
1:44:05
independent governance is
really helpful
1:44:08
so one of the things that we
are going
1:44:10
to start rolling out this thing
is one
1:44:12
other thing is basically
letting people
1:44:15
in the community at an
independent
1:44:17
appeal just listen to it for a
second
1:44:19
listen to what he's saying
otherwise
1:44:20
you'll miss the importance of
his idiocy
1:44:23
place where I think independent
1:44:26
governance is really helpful so
one of
1:44:28
the things that we are going to
start
1:44:30
rolling out soon is basically
letting
1:44:34
people in the community get an
1:44:35
independent appeal when they
feel like
1:44:37
their content is taken down in
a way
1:44:40
that doesn't that doesn't fit
with our
1:44:42
community standards all right
so now you
1:44:44
know you post something if
someone else
1:44:46
reports it we we might take it
down if
1:44:50
we find that it's hate speech or
1:44:51
violates our policies but if you
1:44:52
disagree you're gonna be able
to appeal
1:44:54
and you'll also be able to
appeal to an
1:44:57
independent body and that's an
example
1:44:59
where you know that independent
body
1:45:01
will have you will have real
you know
1:45:04
teeth and power and will be
transparent
1:45:06
in the decision that they're
making and
1:45:07
if I want to overrule that
independent
1:45:09
body I want to overrule that
independent
1:45:10
I'm not going to be able to so
you're
1:45:11
not stepping down as chairman
that's not
1:45:14
the plan so the idea here if we
didn't
1:45:16
have enough people already
screening all
1:45:19
content uploaded because
artificial
1:45:22
intelligence can't do it now
they're
1:45:25
going to have tribunals so yes
they're
1:45:28
going to get into conversation
with
1:45:29
people about this it's going to
bankrupt
1:45:34
well well they're probably try
to get
1:45:36
volunteers but I thought the
most
1:45:39
interesting thing about this
clip was
1:45:43
the journalists misconstrues
what he had
1:45:47
to say yeah yeah and at the
very end
1:45:50
says also you're not stepping
down his
1:45:52
chairman and then he says
you're missing
1:45:55
the point was yes if she was
missing the
1:45:58
point because she's an idiot
yes well I
1:46:00
don't know about them going
broke with
1:46:03
having uh these I think the
whole
1:46:05
through that said I don't know
I don't
1:46:08
use Facebook maybe never have
1:46:11
I would like to get a no agenda
Facebook
1:46:14
account which I might do why
and why
1:46:18
because you can't buy
advertisements on
1:46:20
Facebook I don't let you open
it I'd say
1:46:22
something I don't want any
1:46:24
advertisements of our show on
Facebook
1:46:27
I'm just vetoing it right now
besides
1:46:30
you've had talked about it some
other
1:46:32
you've had two years to do it
you keep
1:46:35
threatening you've never done it
1:46:40
yeah Devin account yes I know
look for
1:46:46
$100,000 the Russians won the
entire one
1:46:50
day 11 16 election I have to
agree I
1:46:53
mean it's get a president
that's the
1:46:56
price seems too good to be true
I mean
1:46:58
it's just the dynamite outfit
there yeah
1:47:03
we can get someone elected
president $4
1:47:06
yeah yeah well yeah okay we're
talking
1:47:13
about since I brought Trump up
he'll say
1:47:15
well you guys are just a couple
of trump
1:47:16
apologies you can use that
thing here's
1:47:17
the Merry Christmas medley that
was used
1:47:21
to just kind of ridicule Trump
Merry
1:47:34
Christmas Merry Christmas
everybody
1:47:36
Merry Christmas everybody Merry
1:47:38
Christmas everybody to serve
God through
1:47:40
serving others so merry
Christmas
1:47:42
everyone Merry Christmas may
God bless
1:47:45
our troops and their families
and may
1:47:47
God bless you all with peace
and joy in
1:47:49
the year ahead and we are going
to say
1:47:52
Merry Christmas again
1:47:54
[Applause] Christmas again
1:47:57
okay that thing that now I
understand
1:48:00
the I guess there was a trump
was lying
1:48:03
about us not saying Merry
Christmas is
1:48:06
that what the idea was of that
clip well
1:48:07
that comes out of Fox is that
actually
1:48:09
all stems from O'Reilly was not
even
1:48:11
there anymore but it's the war
on
1:48:13
Christmas hmm which was a
bigger deal
1:48:16
three or four years ago and
this by the
1:48:19
kind of fallen by the wayside
but Trump
1:48:22
still uses it as a talking point
1:48:24
yeah that's incorrect because
you know
1:48:26
obviously Commerce understands
the
1:48:28
importance of Christmas so
there's still
1:48:30
a lot of social justice stuff
going on
1:48:32
with happy holidays etc but I
think
1:48:34
ultimately now the retailers
are just
1:48:37
it's Mary's Christmas we just
got to
1:48:38
have Christmas and make it
better for
1:48:40
business and no one's fighting
that
1:48:43
yeah I think you're dead right
is it
1:48:45
better for business why would
we want to
1:48:47
downplay Christmas when it
sells so much
1:48:50
product Christmas when it sells
so much
1:48:53
yeah Hales yeah say that's what
we're
1:48:56
all about the holiday season
because the
1:48:58
holiday season refers to
everything from
1:49:01
the holiday Thanksgiving
through New
1:49:04
Year's mm-hmm such a whole you
know
1:49:07
weeks and we a month over a
month
1:49:11
of vie bye-bye
1:49:14
yeah yeah so there was a good
report I
1:49:20
got from one of our Millennials
and
1:49:23
unfortunately like everybody in
the
1:49:25
family except me uh because it
do always
1:49:29
results in did you take a
picture you
1:49:32
have a phone you can get you
got a
1:49:33
camera you take aw you know I
forgot to
1:49:35
take a picture it's a very
common
1:49:38
problem I have here
1:49:39
I guess wholefoods hat because
people
1:49:43
can't cook head you know they
sold
1:49:46
turkeys and they sold you know
you'll
1:49:48
hold meals and I'm in a thing
in a
1:49:50
container you get Thanksgiving
meal to
1:49:53
go that's not good to go
Thanksgiving
1:49:55
meal and a bunch of dressing
and gravy
1:49:59
in a big bucket the whole foods
on Ashby
1:50:02
in Albany
1:50:03
I guess on Thanksgiving had a
line that
1:50:07
was close to a quarter mile
long for
1:50:10
people lined up to pick up
their turkey
1:50:13
orders that were precooked you
know pre
1:50:16
cooked meal really yeah and
apparently I
1:50:21
was told that Amazon has been
they went
1:50:24
with and they started promoting
it on
1:50:25
Amazon so you can get why cook
you can
1:50:28
get beautifully cooked
professionally
1:50:29
cooked meal from from Whole
Foods that
1:50:33
they pick it up it'll be better
than
1:50:35
anything you can do it yeah
well cooking
1:50:39
is of course going by the
wayside to
1:50:41
some degree I think the the big
thing
1:50:43
now is that the insta pot is
that what
1:50:45
all the kids are talking about
these
1:50:47
days the insta pot
1:50:49
slowly into the pot
1:50:52
Mimi told me about the insta
pot about a
1:50:55
year ago yeah and I looked into
it and I
1:50:58
and she says that in in Port
Angeles and
1:51:02
the City Council no she's a you
know
1:51:05
Politico up there mm-hm she
says every
1:51:08
old lady there's not just the
kids she
1:51:10
says every old woman raves
about this
1:51:14
thing oh you've got to get one
yeah it's
1:51:18
just a pressure cooker as far
as I can
1:51:19
tell it's a pressure gets a
drunk
1:51:22
programmable pressure whoo hmm
is it an
1:51:25
Internet of thing
1:51:28
I'm sure we'll be yeah but at
some point
1:51:32
but this is this is what I see
all the
1:51:34
tournament remotely and blow up
their
1:51:36
house what I what I see all the
and all
1:51:39
the recipes for Halloween it
got a great
1:51:40
instapass recipie it's throwing
stuff
1:51:44
into the pressure cooker
pressure cooker
1:51:46
that was wouldn't let the 60s
or 70s
1:51:48
that were human oh let's go
back to the
1:51:49
depression oh really that
pressure
1:51:52
cooker the depression cookers
this was
1:51:55
one of these great tools to
save energy
1:51:57
and raising me cook faster and
you know
1:52:01
it said kept thali the vitamins
and
1:52:03
nutrients and cooking really
had Thunder
1:52:05
steam produced steam pressure
it would
1:52:10
fresh it would the pressure
would push
1:52:13
the vitamins that are trying to
leak out
1:52:15
and to think is this a high
pressure
1:52:17
push it in does all right that
sounds
1:52:20
like folks imagine the
advertiser
1:52:24
pushing that pushing it to get
out yeah
1:52:28
and so yeah I'm not sure when
they
1:52:31
became super popular but my
parents had
1:52:34
him in the 50s they had one and
I think
1:52:35
they were popular and during the
1:52:36
Depression I don't know when
they were
1:52:37
invented I'll look it up as we
speak
1:52:39
I all I remember is my mom had
one now
1:52:42
I'm talking 70s and they had
that little
1:52:46
valve on the top and I was like
well
1:52:48
what happens if you pull that
up my mom
1:52:49
would be like then you'll have
food all
1:52:51
over the kitchen don't do it
she always
1:52:53
wore me anyway from the dead
well
1:52:56
there's that yeah
1:53:00
yeah the pressure cooker which
is a
1:53:02
great device I use a Swiss
pressure
1:53:06
cooker that has three ways of
not
1:53:09
blowing up a score varna no
doubt now
1:53:13
it's what is this one it's a
yeah what
1:53:16
is this thing a Saab
1:53:19
sweet oh I'm sorry Swiss Swiss
Swiss I'm
1:53:23
sorry it's with yes with swish
you know
1:53:26
they're not gonna let anything
blow up
1:53:27
in the place
1:53:28
no I don't know it uses a one
and a half
1:53:33
planets of power I don't think
it's very
1:53:35
very efficient doesn't seem
like a good
1:53:38
I know I like Cougars I remember
1:53:42
pressure because they had the
relief
1:53:43
valve on the top and they were
made out
1:53:44
of pot iron and then they had
two things
1:53:47
that on the side you clamp it
in you
1:53:49
clamp it down uh-huh so I mean
this
1:53:52
thing would be a real explosion
if you
1:53:54
do if that relief fell didn't
go off and
1:53:56
I mean it would blow up the
house must
1:53:59
have a dangerous tie remind you
of the
1:54:02
Boston bombing yeah whether it
was
1:54:04
pressure cookers no but yeah I
think
1:54:08
they were used when they were
invented
1:54:10
for the public they were they
were very
1:54:14
popular because they could cook
in the
1:54:16
pressure cooker about 1/4 to
1/3 the
1:54:19
time anything this original
microwave
1:54:22
there you're waving you get
them out of
1:54:24
the way hey before we go into
our break
1:54:26
because I was reading the
Hillary
1:54:28
Clinton interview and the
Guardian you
1:54:31
know you run across the
Guardian they
1:54:33
they have a pitch very similar
to kind
1:54:37
of like what wiki pedia does
except
1:54:39
Wikipedia has it at the top and
they say
1:54:41
right off the bat you know if
everyone
1:54:43
gave more $1 and then we'd have
enough
1:54:46
and we wouldn't have to beg for
money
1:54:48
and the Guardian puts this
article at
1:54:50
the bottom about their
independent
1:54:52
journalism and I don't know if
you've
1:54:55
seen their recent Android this
is the
1:54:58
Guardian they they think that
they are
1:55:00
real news the top they are
they're
1:55:02
truthful they are independent
they
1:55:04
consider themselves in New York
Times
1:55:06
yes they do consider themselves
1:55:08
themselves the tide the paper
of record
1:55:10
next to the New York Times I
wanted to
1:55:13
share with you their donation
pitch
1:55:14
which is at the bottom of pages
it's in
1:55:18
his own little box and I want
you to
1:55:21
listen to this and tell me if
you have
1:55:23
any issue with what they're
saying their
1:55:25
pitch goes as follows
1:55:26
hey you may have noticed the
Free Press
1:55:30
is under attack
1:55:32
president Trump refuses to
condemn those
1:55:35
responsible for the murder of
Jamaal
1:55:37
Khashoggi he revoked to CNN
reporters
1:55:41
White House press pass and
attacks the
1:55:43
mainstream media at his mass
rallies the
1:55:46
president recently raised a
Congress
1:55:48
praised a congressman for
attacking a
1:55:50
Guardian reporter he has
accused the
1:55:53
American press of being the
enemy of the
1:55:56
people in 2018 this is their
pitch in
1:56:00
2018 in 2018 this is their
pitch in
1:56:01
The Guardian broke the story of
1:56:03
Cambridge analytic US facebook
data
1:56:05
breach we recorded the human
fallout
1:56:07
from family separations we
charted the
1:56:10
rise of the far-right and
documented the
1:56:12
growing impact of gun violence
on
1:56:14
Americans lives we reported
daily on
1:56:17
climate change as a matter of
urgent
1:56:19
priority The Guardian is
editorially
1:56:22
independent our journalism is
free from
1:56:25
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anything of course because I
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late after we had technical
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cooked
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the bird and did a fantastic
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don't think so
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somebody in that email a couple
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a night
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almost six months out of work
seven
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people depending on me to bait
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money runs out on Christmas Day
anyway
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no yeah yeah he's at law it's a
whole
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long story but he was made
redundant
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companies love to fire people it
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happened but he lives in
Brisbane but
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it's a Silicon Valley tech
company that
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made him redundant just before
Christmas
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I have to say that too was a
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American tradition company is
let's name
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names here I don't know if he
named the
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name that's a problem no he
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anyway he's even put his uh his
CV in so
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I promise I put the link in he
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hope yes give this guy a job
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today and Dave Corbin oh as a
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shout-out for a smokin hot
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plans and saving up we got two
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we got boba and stinky tofu he
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muffins with butter and honey
trophies
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we got pepperoni rolls of Pale
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depending on the order status
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imagine definitely gonna take
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of odd sizes and you know it's
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we just started our never and
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keep it but it's that's why
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thank you again for supporting
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another show
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for you on Thursday as we wind
down the
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month of November
2:07:26
even though it's reported as a
joke even
2:07:28
Reuters picked up on it that
the head of
2:07:31
Russia's Space Agency says
their mission
2:07:35
to the moon will be tasked with
2:07:37
verifying the American moon
landings
2:07:39
were real hoax rogozin was
responding to
2:07:48
a question about whether or not
NASA
2:07:50
actually landed on the moon
nearly 50
2:07:51
years ago he appeared to be
joking says
2:07:54
Reuters as he smirked and
shrugged while
2:07:56
answering but conspiracy
surrounding
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nasa's moon missions are common
in
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Russia moon missions are common
in
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hmm where does that put me on
the
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spectrum Russian I'm a ruski
must be a
2:08:07
ruski Russian I'm a ruski must
be a
2:08:09
I have a couple other things oh
yes BBC
2:08:12
click have a couple other
things oh yes BBC
2:08:14
little piece about artificial
2:08:18
intelligence we love artificial
2:08:20
intelligence that will be used
to
2:08:23
understand if a crowd is
getting too
2:08:25
rowdy if a crowd is getting too
2:08:28
so there well the story kinds
of it
2:08:30
explains it at the end of the
day what
2:08:32
we want to be able to do is to
take a
2:08:35
training set where you have
some audio
2:08:39
acoustical characteristics and
knowing
2:08:42
what the crowd was doing her
brother
2:08:44
Travis responding joy yeah it's
great we
2:08:46
have to teach the computer this
say that
2:08:48
was that was the crowd cheering
versus
2:08:50
that was the crowd booing what
do they
2:08:52
have to know when to turn on the
2:08:54
automatic water cannon that's
what this
2:08:55
segment is about we have that
training
2:08:58
set then the computer can go
through the
2:09:00
recordings and then look for
those types
2:09:03
of responses in the acoustic
data and
2:09:05
then you basically have a model
for
2:09:08
classifying different crowd
sounds when
2:09:10
you get to its different types
of events
2:09:13
say that's going back to the
original
2:09:15
thoughts of things like
political
2:09:16
rallies you may have more
chanting going
2:09:20
on but again a person chanting
versus a
2:09:23
person cheering versus a person
booing
2:09:25
they should all sound
acoustically
2:09:27
similar and so we think that
studying
2:09:29
the the problem of sporting
events
2:09:33
should transfer into other type
of crowd
2:09:36
type events so supposing it's a
2:09:39
political rally and maybe
things to
2:09:41
start off and the crowd is
overall quite
2:09:43
happy but things are beginning
to slide
2:09:45
into something a bit more
hostile I just
2:09:48
wonder if if the hope is that
the
2:09:50
computer system will pick up
that
2:09:52
hostility and give an early
warning
2:09:53
perhaps pick up on it before
the human
2:09:56
beings do that would be the
goal the
2:09:58
goal would be able to be able
to create
2:10:02
a an early warning system for
security
2:10:07
or peacekeeping that would
allow the
2:10:10
computer to essentially
determine that
2:10:13
that the crowd mood is changing
in
2:10:16
perhaps there would be triggers
in that
2:10:18
to say okay this this has the
potential
2:10:21
for becoming violent so flip on
the
2:10:24
microwave nuke the fuckers
2:10:27
that's where all this is going
you know
2:10:30
you can't have somebody
watching and
2:10:32
just determining one thing or
another
2:10:33
yeah tell me if this is happy
or if this
2:10:36
is hostile
2:10:37
[Applause] hostile
2:10:43
it's a happy version of Locker
ah that's
2:10:46
what I think but who knows the
algo
2:10:50
might interpret it the wrong way
2:10:52
I don't know I'm talking about
2:10:54
misinterpreting things this is
the Erin
2:10:56
Burnett here misinterpreting
something
2:10:58
that uh that Trump said out
front
2:11:01
tonight president Trump
attacking the
2:11:03
Chief Justice of the Supreme
Court of
2:11:05
the United States doubling down
on a
2:11:06
slam against Justice Roberts
this
2:11:08
evening after the Chief Justice
defended
2:11:11
the u.s. judiciary to the
president in
2:11:13
an unprecedented public
statement let me
2:11:16
show you exactly what happened
it all
2:11:17
began when Trump was asked
about a
2:11:19
federal court ruling which was
against
2:11:21
his new policy that would bar
migrants
2:11:23
who come into the United States
2:11:24
illegally from seeking asylum
here's
2:11:27
what the president said about
the ruling
2:11:29
well you go to the Ninth
Circuit and
2:11:31
it's a disgrace and I'm going
to put in
2:11:32
a major complaint this was an
Obama
2:11:35
judge and I'll tell you what
it's not
2:11:38
gonna happen like this anymore
okay that
2:11:41
sure sounds like a threat okay
2:11:46
that's that's what she sees as
a threat
2:11:48
does that something gets read
to you oh
2:11:50
yeah that he's gonna put in a
major
2:11:52
complaint I'm gonna write a
nasty note
2:11:55
to the time
2:11:56
mmm ooh that's a that's a
threat to her
2:11:58
Erin Burnett is really she's
she does a
2:12:02
lot of eye rolling head shaking
it's
2:12:04
pretty unprofessional
2:12:05
I can't watch I used to watch
her a lot
2:12:08
I liked her now just everything
is also
2:12:11
headshake it's starting to stir
her dis
2:12:14
her dysfunction a dystopia
whatever it
2:12:17
is she's exhibiting there's
stuff like
2:12:19
this no he's starting to show
up on her
2:12:21
face interesting you know
losing some of
2:12:26
her collagen Cherie looks yeah
collagen
2:12:30
although that would be it
collagen is
2:12:32
collagen is drooping
2:12:34
it's the it's the horrible
puppet mouth
2:12:38
meanwhile Hayden had a stroke
oh really
2:12:41
my a Michael Hayden yeah oh
really
2:12:44
playing crap we're learning
here at CNN
2:12:46
that former CIA and NSA
director General
2:12:48
Michael Hayden who also works
with us
2:12:51
here as a CNN analyst suffered
a stroke
2:12:53
earlier this week we are told it
2:12:55
happened at home and that he is
now
2:12:57
receiving expert medical care
his family
2:13:00
thanks everyone for their warm
wishes it
2:13:02
begins the healing process and
general
2:13:05
from everyone here it's in and
our
2:13:07
thoughts are certainly with you
and we
2:13:08
look forward to your recovery
and
2:13:10
getting back here at CNN as
soon as you
2:13:13
can hmm actually yeah he's
actually been
2:13:15
hospitalized addiction all
that's not
2:13:17
good I mean sad I had it don't
play that
2:13:20
part I had a clip that would
have tied
2:13:22
into your your you're a Ninth
Circuit
2:13:25
Court clip this is the the
courts and
2:13:30
the asylum and the the deal
he's now
2:13:31
struck with Mexico which i
think is
2:13:33
quite telling about what the
president
2:13:36
wants to have happen what I
think a lot
2:13:38
of people in America want to
have having
2:13:40
and now apparently Mexico was a
major
2:13:43
development on the us-mexico
border
2:13:45
The Washington Post confirming
the Trump
2:13:47
administration and Mexico's
incoming
2:13:50
government have struck a deal
on a new
2:13:52
border policy it would force
asylum
2:13:54
seekers to wait in Mexico while
their
2:13:57
claims move through the US
ports CNN's
2:14:00
White House reporter Sarah
Westwood
2:14:02
joining me right now with more
on this
2:14:04
so we've been hearing of the
possibility
2:14:06
for weeks now
2:14:07
are these the final stages of
this plan
2:14:10
well Fred it looks that way and
the
2:14:13
president seems to be making
efforts
2:14:15
progress on his efforts to curb
asylum
2:14:17
seeking in the US this deal
comes after
2:14:20
his administration has been
putting
2:14:21
pressure on Mexico for weeks
now to do
2:14:24
more to help the US with its
illegal
2:14:26
immigration problem the deal
would turn
2:14:28
Mexico into a waiting room of
sorts as
2:14:30
migrants who wants your post
asylum in
2:14:33
the United States would be
required to
2:14:35
wait in Mexico while their
claims are
2:14:37
being adjudicated in US courts
now the
2:14:39
president has recently tried to
make us
2:14:41
eylem changes to asylum
policies through
2:14:44
executive action just before the
2:14:45
midterms in fact he announced an
2:14:47
attempted policy change that
would
2:14:49
require migrants
2:14:51
to request asylum at legal
points of
2:14:53
entry it would forbid them from
2:14:55
requesting asylum if they were
caught
2:14:57
trying to cross the border
illegally
2:14:58
that executive action was
blocked by the
2:15:01
ninth circuit who said it was
illegal
2:15:03
for the president to make those
kinds of
2:15:05
changes to the Asylum system
2:15:07
unilaterally obviously the
president has
2:15:09
been fixated on that decision
as he's
2:15:11
been spending his Thanksgiving
holiday
2:15:13
down here in West Palm Beach
but this
2:15:15
deal with Mexico would mark a
2:15:17
significant change to the
asylum system
2:15:20
in that no longer would
migrants be
2:15:22
eligible to request asylum the
moment
2:15:24
that they touch on US soil
which is how
2:15:26
the current law works but Fred
it's
2:15:29
unclear that the president is
going to
2:15:30
be able to make this kind of
major
2:15:33
change to asylum policy without
the help
2:15:36
of Congress it's very yeah good
I like
2:15:40
the use of the words he's
fixated that's
2:15:42
why he's in West Palm Beach
2:15:44
right exactly what is the
connection
2:15:47
between being in West Palm
Beach which
2:15:50
sounds like a place to play
golf and
2:15:52
relax for him as and being
fixated so
2:15:57
he's in so he goes to West Palm
Beach
2:15:59
when he's fixated what is this
kind of
2:16:01
report I don't they just throw
this
2:16:04
stuff out as though there's some
2:16:05
connection believe it's meant
to show
2:16:07
the I swear I think it's meant
to show
2:16:10
the dichotomy between you know
his life
2:16:13
and the life of the caravan and
the
2:16:15
migrants in the asylum seekers
though
2:16:18
that could be - I think that's a
2:16:19
possibility could be - I think
that's a
2:16:21
Palm Beach and these poor
bastards are
2:16:24
stuck in masa Co but that but
if there
2:16:26
is anything broken with art and
we hear
2:16:28
this continuously our
immigration system
2:16:30
is broken having participated
in the
2:16:35
immigration process twice having
2:16:38
petitioned for people to come
in Legally
2:16:40
right and actually helped a
third person
2:16:43
I know a lot about this process
and the
2:16:48
only thing that truly is indeed
broken
2:16:51
is somehow you are allowed to
request
2:16:54
asylum after you have snuck
into the
2:16:55
country illegally that's the
part that
2:16:58
that's it's a very small change
you fix
2:17:01
that you fix a lot
2:17:03
hmmm that's the only thing
2:17:06
and you know why it doesn't
happen it's
2:17:08
a whole another story
2:17:09
because we we know we want
amnesty we
2:17:14
want cheap labor
2:17:14
in California especially it's
not just
2:17:16
California John it's really
everywhere
2:17:18
the cheap labor it's that it's
really
2:17:21
it's quite despicable when you
see the
2:17:23
organisms that we don't talk
about
2:17:24
enough when you see the
organizations
2:17:26
that deal with asylum not with
migrants
2:17:28
Asylum and the billions of
dollars they
2:17:33
receive from government and
these are
2:17:36
religious organizations and
they all are
2:17:38
placement and they all have
deals with
2:17:40
you know that's why they wanted
to send
2:17:42
a lot of the US with its
Syrians I
2:17:45
believe in the Syrians of
Libyans they
2:17:46
want them to go to Detroit
2:17:47
now there were Syrians Syrians
wasn't
2:17:50
that the Obama thing but that
was that
2:17:52
was Minnesota they were sending
in the
2:17:54
Minnesota I know they're
sending Somalis
2:17:56
the Minnesota yeah it's it's
it's a work
2:17:58
program it's a work program but
it just
2:18:02
seems so disingenuous
2:18:04
now it is disingenuous doesn't
seem
2:18:06
disingenuous it is and um and I
think
2:18:11
the original ruling should
stand if you
2:18:13
want to siloam then you go to
an asylum
2:18:14
station at a port of entry it's
how it
2:18:18
works at a port of entry it's
how it
2:18:19
I don't know the court didn't
see it
2:18:22
that way I have question I have
no idea
2:18:29
what it the ninth I don't know
why it's
2:18:31
important is that it is the
Ninth
2:18:33
Circuit Court an important
Court is it
2:18:35
the last one before the Supreme
Court I
2:18:37
don't understand the system can
you give
2:18:39
a a synopsis is one of those
appeals
2:18:42
courts is a bunch of them
around the
2:18:43
country and they like to funnel
so if
2:18:46
it's a like an issue that that
that's
2:18:48
gonna that where you want an
outcome
2:18:50
that favors the progress of
left-wing
2:18:53
theologies you try to send it
to the
2:18:55
ninth you try to send it to the
2:18:56
although the ninth court
because the
2:18:59
ninth Court has always bits of
calaf I
2:19:00
think it's December's it's
around here
2:19:02
somewhere I think but it's very
liberal
2:19:04
and they always come up with
these crazy
2:19:06
ideas and they did still does
very they
2:19:11
hate Trump it's perfect court
for them
2:19:13
is it all West Coast the Ninth
Circuit
2:19:15
is that the idea Ninth Circuit
as West
2:19:17
Coast okay but it's but do they
have
2:19:19
more power than I don't know
2:19:21
the Fifth Circuit or the first
no no no
2:19:24
okay you don't go for a circuit
the
2:19:26
circuit that's the one you go
you go
2:19:28
your your regular court system
and then
2:19:31
it gets an appeal against
bounced to the
2:19:33
ninth and then it goes to the
Supreme
2:19:35
Court after that doesn't go
anywhere
2:19:37
else are these circuit numbers
are they
2:19:39
maps to FEMA regions
2:19:42
I don't know that but I don't
think so
2:19:46
but it's possibly Marie's 9
Arizona
2:19:49
California Hawaii Nevada CB
maybe
2:19:53
there's some coincidental thing
they're
2:19:54
going on maybe it's not so
coincidental
2:19:59
the other big one is the DC
Court of
2:20:01
Appeals which just doesn't have
a number
2:20:03
right which is where the the
rapist went
2:20:10
this rapist Oh Harry
2:20:13
Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby
that
2:20:16
wasn't a judge which other oh
oh oh the
2:20:19
judge rapist
2:20:20
yeah the jury was the judge
rapist I'm
2:20:23
proven rapist went there so did
you know
2:20:28
about the new Interpol boss yes
I did
2:20:31
hear about the new Interpol boss
2:20:34
what do you know about it
here's the
2:20:36
clip if you want to place 27
seconds
2:20:39
where is it you want a new
2:20:44
ah yes got it I'll remember
when I hear
2:20:47
the clip I feel honored to have
been
2:20:49
elected to coincide of the
executive
2:20:51
committee over the next two
years and so
2:20:54
Interpol has a new president
Kim Jong
2:20:57
yang of South Korea beat out a
Russian
2:20:59
candidate and that's key
because the
2:21:01
Russian was the favorite for
the job and
2:21:03
there were concerns over Kremlin
2:21:05
interference the international
police
2:21:07
organization says the election
was free
2:21:09
and transparent Kim is a career
2:21:12
policeman and will serve a
two-year term
2:21:14
yeah what I heard was maybe
this is a a
2:21:18
week ago that all it's gonna be
Putin's
2:21:20
buddy is gonna be the new boss
of
2:21:22
Interpol I guess that didn't
happen well
2:21:25
the thing that has always
interested me
2:21:26
and I don't have it in the clip
2:21:27
unfortunately is that the old
Interpol
2:21:29
boss was busted for being a
criminal
2:21:33
that's not much different than
the
2:21:36
United Nations climate change
chief who
2:21:40
just had to resign because he
was using
2:21:43
you know air travel excessively
for
2:21:45
private use right racking up my
he
2:21:49
always had to go via Paris well
I'm
2:21:52
going from Washington DC to
Baltimore
2:21:54
via Paris you know to go see
Pierre and
2:21:57
everything yeah you know
spewing carbon
2:21:59
dioxide and increasing his
footprint
2:22:01
yeah these stories are not so
uncommon
2:22:04
amongst the elite I have two
clips what
2:22:08
are we doing I have two clips
that is
2:22:10
which has a question in the
middle which
2:22:14
I'm gonna ask you because you
dude
2:22:17
you're the one this is your
beat okay
2:22:18
reading documents okay document
reading
2:22:21
is your specialty that this is
the Trump
2:22:24
Saudi and CIA findings one
president
2:22:27
Trump taking sides with the
Saudi
2:22:29
government yet again he's
doubling down
2:22:31
on his rejection of the CIA
assessment
2:22:33
of the murder of journalist
Jamal
2:22:34
Khashoggi and define coasts to
pollen
2:22:36
and punish the Saudis joining
me now is
2:22:38
Rhode Island senator Jack Reed a
2:22:40
Democrat on the Senate Armed
Services
2:22:41
Committee Senator Reid great to
have you
2:22:43
on new day I want to start thank
2:22:45
president's comments on the
these really
2:22:49
refuting the CIA findings
2:22:51
okay the CIA findings
2:22:54
have you read the findings why
not
2:22:56
there's no findings there's no
report
2:22:58
that doesn't look as far as
Jesus said
2:23:00
right there on CNN he
repudiated the
2:23:04
CIA's findings yeah I don't
think he
2:23:07
refuted even the findings he
said
2:23:10
there's no clear report that's
what I
2:23:12
remember no clear report that's
what I
2:23:12
there's no report we had the
Washington
2:23:13
Post come out and say according
to
2:23:16
sources people familiar with
the matter
2:23:17
not allowed to speak on the
record
2:23:18
because they were not
authorized but
2:23:20
there's no report to my
knowledge still
2:23:23
can't they make it more clear
sounds to
2:23:26
me from that question that
there's a
2:23:28
report and there's findings
2:23:32
so I guess not is that what
you're
2:23:34
saying I haven't seen it I've
only I've
2:23:36
only heard maybe it'll be
cleared up in
2:23:39
the second half of this clip
that would
2:23:41
be good because I'm very
confused
2:23:43
really refuting the CIA
findings let's
2:23:45
listen to what he said
yesterday I want
2:23:47
to get your reaction now that in
2:23:48
conclusion they did not come to
a
2:23:50
conclusion they have feelings
certain
2:23:53
ways but then I don't have to
report
2:23:56
well and you can ask you can
ask Mike
2:23:58
they have not concluded nobody's
2:23:59
concluded I don't know if
anyone's going
2:24:01
to be able to conclude that the
crown
2:24:03
prince did it is the president
line yes
2:24:07
the CIA concluded that the
crown prince
2:24:11
of Saudi Arabia was directly
involved in
2:24:15
the assassination of Khashoggi
wait a
2:24:18
minute who is this speaking who
is this
2:24:21
speaking this is one of the guy
2:24:22
fortunately I thought his name
was in
2:24:24
there but he's in one of the
newer one
2:24:27
of the new Democrat Democrat
guys that
2:24:31
will be running one of the
committee's
2:24:32
he's four they're gonna bring
him on all
2:24:34
the time and he's just going on
he's a
2:24:35
Democrat Congress person
2:24:39
so the point that this makes
and we'll
2:24:41
finish the clip in a moment is
that it
2:24:43
was only a headline the
Washington Post
2:24:46
and here it is so irritating
that this
2:24:49
happens now wait it gets better
2:24:51
I'll just continue with with a
quick lay
2:24:53
up the washing careful the
Washington
2:24:58
Post only spoke of sources who
told them
2:25:02
that the CIA had come to these
2:25:04
conclusions in a report as far
as I know
2:25:07
unless it happened this morning
no
2:25:09
report has been issued no
report no
2:25:12
official word at all but the
news media
2:25:15
right down to actually the
Guardian who
2:25:19
used it as their pitch are just
claiming
2:25:22
that the CIA have made this
decision and
2:25:24
this is their conclusion as if
it's a
2:25:27
published report and did I say
that
2:25:30
correctly yes and if you listen
very
2:25:34
carefully to the woods guy has
to say
2:25:38
you will probably laugh right
in the
2:25:40
middle of the clip Crown Prince
of Saudi
2:25:43
Arabia was directly involved in
the way
2:25:47
I'm going back I'm going to
start the
2:25:48
clip over I'm gonna hear the
whole thing
2:25:49
really refuting the CIA
findings let's
2:25:51
listen to what he said
yesterday I want
2:25:53
to get your reaction now that in
2:25:54
conclusion they did not come to
a
2:25:55
conclusion they have feelings
certain
2:25:59
ways but they didn't have the
report
2:26:01
well and you can ask you can
ask Mike
2:26:03
they have not concluded nobody's
2:26:05
concluded I don't know if
anyone's going
2:26:06
to be able to conclude that the
crown
2:26:09
prince did it is the president
line yes
2:26:12
the CIA concluded that the
crown prince
2:26:17
of Saudi Arabia was directly
involved in
2:26:21
the assassination of khashoggi
they did
2:26:24
it has been reported the press
with high
2:26:26
confidence which is the the
highest
2:26:29
level of accuracy that they
will vouch
2:26:32
for it's based on facts it's
based on
2:26:34
analysis the the notion that
they didn't
2:26:37
reach the conclusion is just
2:26:39
unsubstantiated that the CI has
made
2:26:41
that clear so why do you think
he's
2:26:44
covering for the Saudis and
what can the
2:26:46
Senate do about it well I think
he feels
2:26:49
that he
2:26:50
has an arrangement with the
Saudis in
2:26:54
terms of the region where they
will act
2:26:56
on behalf of their own
interests but he
2:27:00
helps the United States
interest I think
2:27:02
he also has made this claim
about their
2:27:05
financial input into United
States
2:27:07
although it's widely
exaggerated then I
2:27:10
think he probably says
relationships
2:27:12
going back to previously
business
2:27:14
relationships and he might even
be
2:27:15
thinking in the future of
business
2:27:17
relationships with the Saudis
2:27:19
so he's been he's put himself
in a
2:27:21
compromised position where he
can't look
2:27:23
at the intelligence reports you
know
2:27:26
detached the objective way make
a
2:27:30
conclusion then introduce
evidence and
2:27:33
introduce policies to affect
the better
2:27:37
outcome he's he seems to be a
captive of
2:27:39
the Saudis actually no so he he
read the
2:27:42
report which doesn't exist as
far as we
2:27:44
know and he couldn't bring
himself to
2:27:47
actually read the report
properly is is
2:27:49
that the story if you listen
carefully
2:27:52
and is affected you have to go
back to
2:27:54
the middle of that clip he says
he goes
2:27:57
on and on and on about all this
report
2:27:58
and then he subtly says as
reported in
2:28:01
the newspaper now it's for it's
based on
2:28:04
sacks it's based on analysis
the the
2:28:07
notion that they didn't reach a
2:28:09
conclusion is just
unsubstantiated that
2:28:11
the CI has made that clear so
why do you
2:28:14
think he's covering for the
Saudis
2:28:16
before that it was very it was
very the
2:28:19
CI concluded that the crown
prince of
2:28:23
Saudi Arabia was directly
involved in
2:28:26
the assassination of khashoggi
they did
2:28:30
it has been reported the press
with high
2:28:32
confidence which is good
2:28:38
[Music] which is good
2:28:42
through it as reported by the
press he
2:28:45
puts it right in the middle of
all that
2:28:46
gibberish me up if there's no
report
2:28:49
he just says as we as with high
2:28:52
confidence Corden in the press
with high
2:28:53
confidence as reported you know
I packed
2:28:57
this time I listened to it again
2:28:58
not this last last time but
when you
2:29:01
played the whole but he got
you've even
2:29:03
got by me that time because I
knew it
2:29:05
was in there and then I met two
I should
2:29:08
have pulled it out as a sub
clip but
2:29:09
that's masters what goes on it
and it is
2:29:12
reported is induce and these
guys just
2:29:13
slap it up wearing Washington
Post by in
2:29:16
there and ask him oh if they'll
say the
2:29:19
same thing I realize we
received some
2:29:27
disturbing notes from people who
2:29:29
longtime listeners freaking out
stop
2:29:32
defending Trump 50% of you news
about
2:29:35
drug here's the sad thing for
nine years
2:29:42
now I'll make it eight for
eight years
2:29:45
we have essentially been
showing you how
2:29:48
the media worldwide is bogus we
never
2:29:54
used the word fake news as
bogus we even
2:29:56
use bogit 'iv we dissected it
we said
2:29:59
this is bullcrap and typically
that was
2:30:01
because they were positive
about Obama
2:30:05
there was lots of other
examples but
2:30:07
then also the guy shows up who
becomes
2:30:09
president who is doing the same
thing so
2:30:12
maybe just an overload I don't
know what
2:30:15
it is but people who I like as
an
2:30:17
overload it must be people who
I like
2:30:19
are getting overloaded and
they're
2:30:21
burning out the frying it's
completely
2:30:23
orange man-bat and they're just
freaking
2:30:25
out I got a note saying you
should if
2:30:29
you're gonna do all yeah you
say it's
2:30:31
news deconstruction but if
you're gonna
2:30:32
do that I want you to do some
take apart
2:30:35
some pro Trump stories
2:30:38
and I'm thinking what for my
blog from
2:30:42
Breitbart I'm thinking what for
my blog from
2:30:43
wrote from stories to take up
to take
2:30:45
apart we already take up we
take apart
2:30:48
Fox News we don't even pay much
2:30:49
attention to them and as we're
looking
2:30:53
for new the media being
disingenuous or
2:30:56
sneaky ORS or saying things
that you're
2:30:59
just throwing in crap like this
last
2:31:00
clip what spotting it I don't
think
2:31:04
doing here this is bull I've
been
2:31:07
thinking about some of this
help me with
2:31:11
this I'll just walk through it
it's not
2:31:12
complete it's I'm just starting
to come
2:31:13
for some theories it's
completely it's
2:31:18
not an issue for me or you or
anyone to
2:31:20
bring up the theory that we may
be
2:31:22
living in a simulation this has
been
2:31:24
declared by people who are
adored by
2:31:28
left right center and
everywhere Elon
2:31:30
Musk Jeff Bezos Bill Gates they
all say
2:31:35
it's possible that we're living
it's
2:31:36
actually highly likely we are
living in
2:31:39
a simulation so this is not a
crackpot
2:31:42
theory this is something that
we can
2:31:44
talk about you can't scoff at
me for
2:31:46
what I'm about to say if it's
true that
2:31:48
we're living in a simulation
which it
2:31:50
may very well be so I think you
have to
2:31:54
look at it you know as an
extrapolation
2:31:56
just like the fern plant you
know the
2:31:58
leaf is made up looks like a
fern so
2:32:00
we're clearly creating a
derivative of
2:32:02
some simulation and we have
simulation
2:32:05
all around us and I'm gonna
take one
2:32:07
example where I think this is
taking now
2:32:09
don't do I want you to be
serious and
2:32:10
listen don't be theremin Amy
just listen
2:32:12
I left the reddit I'd never
been on
2:32:16
reddit I used to be in the
reddit group
2:32:18
around May but May was April
and I left
2:32:22
the reddit group and I'd really
didn't
2:32:25
look at it I went back a couple
months
2:32:28
later because they were doing
something
2:32:30
interesting which I appreciated
they
2:32:33
would take the episode and they
would
2:32:36
post the episode and people
would
2:32:37
comment on that episode of
course was
2:32:39
all very you know about how
we're
2:32:41
horrible and we defend trom but
no it
2:32:43
doesn't matter but it was
interesting
2:32:44
because there's an episode and
they're
2:32:47
talking about what we talked in
specific
2:32:49
pieces and sometimes as
2:32:50
I don't have maybe some valid
points and
2:32:52
so to me although I didn't
participate
2:32:53
in the conversation I would
read that
2:32:56
this stopped and it just became
a group
2:32:59
where a story about Trump would
be
2:33:02
posted and then the same three
or four
2:33:05
no Knicks handles would you know
2:33:07
basically goes like this post
something
2:33:09
about Trump and say yeah no
agenda will
2:33:13
never will never talk about
that with
2:33:16
that exact voice that's the
exact voice
2:33:19
actually orange man bad so that
stopped
2:33:22
and I couldn't figure out why
did they
2:33:25
stop doing it you know is that
because
2:33:26
I'm not participating and I
think that's
2:33:28
a lot of ignorance right if I
say huh
2:33:30
I agree disagree then you know
you get a
2:33:32
whole crowd jump and people
start to
2:33:33
post I was able to correlation
is not
2:33:36
causation but we had excellent
2:33:39
transcripts for a while which
were being
2:33:41
done through I believe the
Amazon
2:33:43
transcription engine by our
buddy Tom a
2:33:47
clogged woggie in Australia and
he has a
2:33:49
website and a translations na
2:33:52
translations dot online and he
even made
2:33:54
them in opml so I they were
completely
2:33:56
machine readable and I put them
in the
2:33:58
show no it's just testing it
out and
2:33:59
they were actually quite good
2:34:01
transcripts that when we
started doing
2:34:04
that that's when they started
posting
2:34:06
entire deconstructions of
pieces of the
2:34:09
show because of the Amazon only
gives
2:34:13
you so much free and we have
such a our
2:34:14
content is so long that Tom
could no
2:34:17
longer use the service because
now it
2:34:19
would start to cost money and
it's
2:34:20
really expensive so we're using
now the
2:34:23
YouTube transcription engine
which is
2:34:25
cute it sucks balls it's just
no good I
2:34:29
mean it's very very very poor
cuz
2:34:31
certainly compared to what we
had the
2:34:33
correlation is that those
2:34:35
deconstructions of each episode
of the
2:34:37
show stopped appearing on
reddit so if
2:34:40
we're in a simulation I think
it is very
2:34:43
possible that these names is
like
2:34:47
Africa's Erin van and Hart
Welsh wark
2:34:50
Ville and with whatever it's
like three
2:34:52
different people on reddit who
post the
2:34:53
whole day just posting stories
they no
2:34:56
longer have the access to the
transcript
2:35:00
so they don't really know we're
talking
2:35:01
about and now that just going
out trying
2:35:03
to and now that just going out
trying
2:35:04
something and literally just
posting and
2:35:06
no agenda show sucks next to
each thing
2:35:09
so I think that the people on
reddit in
2:35:13
the reddit group are actually
very
2:35:15
sophisticated BOTS but limited
in scope
2:35:18
kind of like you know they
can't really
2:35:22
do much more than than what
they're
2:35:24
doing right now without the
proper input
2:35:25
and I'm starting to look at a
lot of
2:35:29
people who I only know through
either
2:35:31
Twitter or even email I think
that a lot
2:35:35
of these just are little BOTS
spun up
2:35:38
just to maybe I did it myself
in my own
2:35:41
simulation but they just kind of
2:35:42
interact with the world but you
can do
2:35:44
things that will stop their
programming
2:35:49
so you can enter like a control
see on
2:35:51
some of them and I've had some
small
2:35:54
successes with it particularly
with some
2:35:56
email conversation we had
recently which
2:35:58
that we don't need to get into
but after
2:36:00
you said go argue with Adam
thanks bro
2:36:03
that was nice that was like the
2:36:05
shittiest thing you could do to
me are
2:36:11
you as you cuz I wasn't gonna
argue with
2:36:12
him don't but you know anyway I
really
2:36:17
think that it is possible that
in some
2:36:19
cases everyone has a coalition
of BOTS
2:36:23
around them whether it's on
your social
2:36:25
media wherever it is and you
have to
2:36:27
look out for them and you'll
see that
2:36:28
they are doing the same thing
over and
2:36:30
over again maybe with small the
people
2:36:33
who troll you on Twitter it's
it's
2:36:35
beyond just feel like a Russian
bot it's
2:36:37
really sophisticated in the
simulation
2:36:43
well if that's true I wish
they'd give
2:36:49
us more money this is the only
thing I
2:36:52
haven't figured out yet how do
we hack
2:36:54
the bots into accessing a
PayPal account
2:36:57
and sending us some cash
2:37:03
well it's not gonna be ctrl C
I'm
2:37:08
surprised that you actually
went back to
2:37:09
that reddit thing but I thought
you
2:37:12
definitely write about it if
what you
2:37:14
say is true that they were just
2:37:16
basically stealing or doing
which word
2:37:19
searches on a larger which is
doable if
2:37:22
I could do that do a word
search on a
2:37:24
very well-done transcript you
can find
2:37:29
stuff in there I'd be kind of
funny
2:37:30
and you could bitch and moan
about it
2:37:32
because you'd love the
intonation is
2:37:33
gone and transcripts you don't
know if
2:37:35
somebody's joking you could say
you
2:37:37
could be something straight in
a joking
2:37:39
manner and which doesn't make
sense but
2:37:43
you can read something in a
joking
2:37:44
matter that if it's you read it
it would
2:37:46
sound straight but also also
notice when
2:37:49
the NPC meme cropped up the
non-playing
2:37:52
character people on Twitter at
least not
2:37:56
really upset like you can't you
know and
2:37:58
I think that those were mainly
2:38:00
simulations this makes no sense
to have
2:38:04
your world filled with real
people
2:38:05
online it's gotta be a but just
get a
2:38:08
bunch of bots and simulations
that are
2:38:09
all running around maybe I have
a copy
2:38:11
of myself that is in your world
I don't
2:38:13
know but this it's kind of
mind-blowing
2:38:15
when you see that to me the
correlation
2:38:17
was interesting that we started
2:38:20
providing yes I think the
general notion
2:38:23
that we're all in a simulation
is
2:38:25
nonsense but the idea that
perhaps a lot
2:38:29
of the followers you have on
Twitter for
2:38:31
example I keep seeing him
they're
2:38:33
following me they try me in
every once
2:38:35
in a while you look at their
page
2:38:37
there's no background as a
picture of a
2:38:39
guy you feel very vague
generalities
2:38:41
about him he's got 60 followers
maybe
2:38:44
four followers maybe one
follower
2:38:46
I definitely think those are
all BOTS
2:38:48
yeah but that's just a bot
within the
2:38:51
simulation world I mean there's
but I'm
2:38:59
just saying I am looking into
this and I
2:39:01
am trying to find ways where I
can
2:39:03
manipulate the behavior of
these BOTS
2:39:05
and I'm having some success I
will
2:39:07
report back I'm very excited
about it
2:39:09
gives you an that I will see I
can
2:39:11
attribute you an that I will
see I can
2:39:12
I believe the whole thesis and
I would
2:39:14
put the Elan at the top of the
2:39:16
because there is a commonality
between
2:39:18
everybody who has this
simulation
2:39:21
thought and I think it really
does
2:39:23
connect to the better quality
of the pot
2:39:25
being sold in California
largely and
2:39:28
that's where I get my pot from
so that
2:39:29
makes sense it is the true red
pill of
2:39:33
the matrix
2:39:37
I mean this stuff is nasty I
was not
2:39:39
nasties dynamite yeah well we
got I got
2:39:46
that last thing I think it's
kind of
2:39:47
funny from the CBC is the Toy
Story
2:39:49
teaser which apparently to a
story I
2:39:52
guess is lasted or left and all
the rest
2:39:54
they can't get those movie
finished the
2:39:56
newest Toy Story and although
they try
2:39:58
to make ma you know about this
no no no
2:40:01
no isn't that this didn't steep
wasn't
2:40:03
Steve Jobs instrumental in that
and
2:40:04
Pixar and all that
2:40:07
I know he was but this Lassiter
is the
2:40:09
it was the genius to Pixar okay
2:40:10
and they rousted him for being
oh that's
2:40:12
right he was a huggers too much
over
2:40:14
hugging yes hunger over Agra so
they got
2:40:16
rid of him now they can't get
this movie
2:40:17
finishes so they have fake
controversies
2:40:19
like this which is the store
toys story
2:40:22
teaser which you can all go
watch and
2:40:25
the CBC is to notice that this
is become
2:40:28
very controversial because of a
new
2:40:30
character controversial because
of a new
2:40:32
[Music] controversial because
of a new
2:40:36
okay so this is the point where
all of
2:40:37
our viewers okay so this was a
teaser
2:40:43
obviously for Toy Story for
that that
2:40:45
just came out this week the
movie itself
2:40:47
comes out next summer but let
me explain
2:40:51
what you saw there so that was
four key
2:40:53
he is a spork kind of turned
arts crafts
2:40:57
who clearly is a toy but but
doesn't
2:41:01
want to be a toy doesn't think
he's a
2:41:03
toy but the the other toys
think he's a
2:41:06
toy and want him to be a toy
and want to
2:41:08
take him on on their toy
adventures
2:41:11
weird a kid's movie for crying
out loud
2:41:13
but but boy like what a premise
for our
2:41:17
time I think we're in a time
where we
2:41:18
we're constantly trying to
define or
2:41:21
redefine everything right we
were
2:41:24
talking about labels all the
time and
2:41:25
proud it pronouns all the time
what is a
2:41:28
asylum-seeker what is an
illegal alien
2:41:30
what is a male or female are
those
2:41:34
things important right so we're
always
2:41:36
constantly trying to define
things and
2:41:39
so I looked at that trailer I'm
like oh
2:41:41
are they trying to tell these
pics are
2:41:44
trying to have a bigger
statement for
2:41:46
the parents because those
movies are
2:41:47
great because the parents often
get
2:41:49
something from it and the kids
oblivious
2:41:50
these are just watching
cartoons and so
2:41:52
you're it sounds like you're
happy that
2:41:53
they're taking this on it and
Sarah I
2:41:55
mean you're a new mom do you
see this as
2:41:58
being I guess a springboard for
2:42:00
conversations that you might
have oh boy
2:42:04
Hollywood is let me give you
the premise
2:42:07
of this yeah so they have this
trailer
2:42:09
and then at the very end is
this spork
2:42:12
with a face drawn on it
2:42:14
who is objecting saying he's
not a toy
2:42:17
and I should have clipped that
as an eye
2:42:19
so maybe I'll get it later I'm
not a toy
2:42:22
anybody's caught up in this toy
world
2:42:24
and he's bitching and moaning
about it
2:42:26
because he's can talk and so
now it's
2:42:29
become a big point of
controversy
2:42:31
amongst the pundits at the CBC
because
2:42:34
well maybe somebody has to do a
2:42:36
transgender yes there we go we
needed
2:42:39
some of that because he's not
really a
2:42:41
toy but he is a toy so he's a
toy
2:42:43
self-identifies as not a toy
but they're
2:42:46
all identifying was the toys a
huge
2:42:48
controversy identifying was the
toys a huge
2:42:48
and the movie will be out for a
year the
2:42:51
pre promotion is rocking
2:42:54
[Music] promotion is rocking
2:42:56
all right everybody and you can
take
2:42:59
that to the bank
2:43:00
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2:43:03
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2:43:06
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2:45:11
I guess I'm some ice
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2:45:48
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2:45:59
[Music] guess I'm some ice
2:46:17
all of me giveaway of your
masculinity
2:46:25
balls in the
2:46:30
that's where
2:46:31
this slaver
2:46:35
[Music] slaver
2:46:41
Buju stop spreading fake news
the
2:46:45
vasectomy does not involve
cutting your
2:46:46
nuts off because you know then
I have to
2:46:48
listen to Brian brushwood
complain to me
2:46:49
for another five years please
tell all
2:46:54
the newcomers your theory I
discovered a
2:46:57
book in the 1920s that I still
have a
2:47:00
copy of and it's a talk about
certain
2:47:02
medical procedures and
vasectomies are
2:47:05
not new and they were used in
the 20s as
2:47:09
a youth fix it would make you
the best
2:47:13
secondly was two men were told
get a
2:47:15
vasectomy and you'll look
younger it's
2:47:18
like it's like the another one
that came
2:47:20
along some years later was the
lobotomy
2:47:24
yeah some years later was the
lobotomy
2:47:25
there was actually a fattest
thing and
2:47:27
there was apparently some guy
in the in
2:47:28
Central Park that would give
you the
2:47:29
admit lobotomies without having
to
2:47:31
really go into the doctor's
office they
2:47:33
would slip a needle behind your
eyeball
2:47:35
and the thing was it gets was
curved
2:47:37
history where they could
actually Nick
2:47:39
and cut off the little piece of
the
2:47:42
brain hooks the front to the
back
2:47:44
[Applause] hooks the front to
the back
2:47:46
this is done - I dunno
middle-aged guys
2:47:49
I'm not sure what the issues
were
2:47:50
but I started noticing this
with men who
2:47:53
attacked mastectomy and I will
say this
2:47:56
not all of them but most of
them start
2:48:01
to look a little bit like an
old lesbian
2:48:04
[Music] look a little bit like
an old lesbian
2:48:07
there's a uniform lesbian look
there is
2:48:10
I think and Ellis I think that
there's a
2:48:14
uniform less guys I think I
just think
2:48:16
it's the crispys look that's
pretty much
2:48:18
it the crispys look that's
pretty much
2:48:20
[Music] the crispys look that's
pretty much
2:48:39
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pretty much
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