December 6th, 2018 • 2h 47m
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my mind is exploding right now
Adam
curry
this is no agenda
[Music]
curry from northern Silicon
Valley where
the local Whole Foods as the
sale on
pepperoncini I'm Justin bour I
don't see
how you can frequent that
establishment
anymore knowing how evil Amazon
is
that's convenient that our
sprouts yes
yes well there was a lot of
news and no
news that was very interesting
there was
no news because it was all
about George
Herbert Walker Bush blight
disagree I
think there's a lot of news and
not all
of it was about George HW
whatever
although most of it was you're
right and
I'll say this kind of the same
thing I
said about John McCain cuz it
may look
very odd to a lot of people
certainly
don't live in in the United
States of
Gitmo nation it's like well
this guy was
did a lot of bad stuff
responsible for a
lot of dead people and a lot of
horrific
events and yeah that's what we
do we we
recognize that and we still say
hey
ma'am thanks thanks for being
part of
the American experience good
work we
really appreciate it
well if you want to go down
that road I
have the right clips okay
because I I
feel that deep in our hearts
we're like
we know it like yeah you know
that's who
we are it's not like anyone
talked about
the real legacy of George
Herbert Walker
Bush well the only man who
could not
remember where he was the day
Kennedy
was assassinated so let's start
with I
have a series of clips where
they're
quite interesting because of
all the all
the news outlets everybody's
falling all
over themselves and I was a
great guy
and great father and and we got
to see
George W kind of when I heard I
didn't
see him with his his eulogy but
I heard
it and it it sounded like
laughter for a
moment and of course when you
see it you
realize it isn't but it was no
jarring
glows so let's start with and
I've got
these aptly named baby killers
in Kuwait
one one intro yes we look back
now at a
largely forgotten aspect of
Bush's war
in Iraq those domestic
propaganda
campaign that occurred in the
United
States before the invasion
began the
story centers on
young Kuwaiti woman named nyira
on
October 10th 1990 the
fifteen-year-old
girl gave riveting testimony
before
Congress about the horrors
inside Kuwait
after Iraq invaded women this
this was
on Judy show not a Judas is
democracy
democracy no so she actually
went back
to that during this time of
great
everybody fell all over
themselves
except the socialist democracy
now they
decided why why what differs is
why
should we be doing that so then
they
gate did a very nice four-part
piece
called us so even though it it
was
completely unamerican what
they're doing
it's highly appreciated good
jobs mr.
chairman and members of the
committee my
name is Nita and I just came
out of
Kuwait with my five day old
nephew
traveled across the desert to
save
safety there is no milk
available for
the baby weight he barely
escaped when
their car was stuck in the
desert desert
sand and help came from Saudi
Arabia
behind wanted to do something
for my
country I volunteer volunteered
at the
Aladeen hospital with 12 other
women who
wanted to help as well I was the
youngest volunteer the other
women were
from 20 to 30 years old while I
was
there I saw the Iraqi soldiers
coming to
the hospital now you're his
testimony
was rebroadcast across the
country and
marked a turning point in
public opinion
on going to war President
George HW Bush
repeatedly cited her claims
they had
kids and incubators and they
were thrown
out of the incubators so the
Kuwait
could be systematically
Mandell three months after nyira
testified President George HW
Bush
launched the invasion of Iraq
but it
turned out in a yearÃs claims
weren't
true no human rights before
news outlet
could confirm what she said it
also
turned out in the era was not
just any
Kuwaiti teenager she was the
daughter of
the Kuwaiti ambassador to the
United
States Saud nasir al Sabbagh
she had
been coached by the public
relations
firm Hill & Knowlton which was
working
for the Kuwaiti government my
mind is
exploding right now when we
talked about
this at the time of it
happening was
that we never talked know that
the time
was happening I'm sorry not the
tie was
having we talked about it I
mean 10
years ago 11 years ago we've
talked
about it a couple of times and
people
would say you're crazy
conspiracy
theorist and now it's on
democracy now
this is fantastic and they're
doing it
the day when everybody's
eulogizing him
holy smokes good stuff yes
fantastic
onward is that the end of clip
one yeah
that is okay let's go well
let's go
right to clip 2 then this is
disgusting
to proper again they brought in
this guy
Rick John MacArthur and he he
has a book
out on this whole thing though
he has it
all documented it's very
interesting
book but let's do clip 2 we're
joined
now by the journalists who first
revealed my IRA's identity Rick
MacArthur the president and
publisher of
Harper's Magazine the author of
the book
second front censorship and
propaganda
in the 1991 Gulf War I mean so
you know
as we said this is as a turning
point
you have this teenager this
girl saying
she witnessed this that Iraqi
soldiers
came into Kuwait and ripped
babies out
of Kuwaiti incubators but she
was only
referred to as nyira at the
time of the
testimony it wasn't New Year Al
Sabah so
you would know that she's the
daughter
of the quaity ambassador who
also
testified in that hearing
correct
that's all part of the
propaganda the
plan is to maintain our
anonymity to
protect her and her family
against
reprisals in Kuwait that that
was the
cover story but of course nobody
bothered to try to find out who
she
really was they just bought the
story
hook line and sinker even
though at the
time there were a couple of
human rights
investigators I got onto the
trail after
the war unfortunately and was
able to
run down what really had
happened which
was that Hill Knowlton selected
her as a
persuasive witness to this
atrocity and
it was all part of a campaign
to turn
Saddam Hussein at least in the
public
consciousness into a Dolf
Hitler man now
I have two clips left in this
series I
got one clip after that but
it's I'm I'm
gonna reverse the two of them
because I
think clip three is probably a
little
better as a finale for this guy
okay so
let's jump to baby killers in
Kuwait for
I don't think I have four oh I
see it I
see it now yeah and it's clear
that does
I mean numerous representatives
and
senators cited the baby
incubator
atrocity which was false it
never
happened as a reason for voting
for the
Gulf War resolution in other
words these
are people who said well look
we could
figure out other ways to get
Saddam
Hussein out of Kuwait economic
sanctions
negotiations there was a
feeling that
this was about oil
it wasn't about principle even
though
Bush opposed it as a matter of
international law but these
people said
finally look if he's really
Hitler if
he's really capable of having
an army
that slaughters and it can't it
got to
hundreds of babies by the time
Amnesty
International gave its official
seal of
approval to the to the story it
wasn't
just now year it wasn't just
Nyiro Human
Rights Watch fell for it they
were
neutral officially but Amnesty
International actually put the
number
over three hundred babies there
weren't
that many incubators in Kuwait
City
hospitals now if you want to go
back
over the record you'll see how
badly the
the media how badly the press
failed in
all this - paper the New York
Daily News
had a front page they they kill
the
babies and so the media
uncritically
accepted this story without any
kind of
a check
wow he's talking about himself
in the
third person they don't see the
irony in
their own coverage of global
warming or
Trump thank you yes okay but
even even
his own newspaper my own
newspaper had
this bullcrap story on the
front page
boy they're stupid dude you
were you
were at the newspaper
I don't believe ya then I don't
think he
is anymore he's I think at the
post or
someplace else anyway so let's
listen to
the final which is I've got
down his
clip three and it has
it makes some conclusions that
I think
are worth noting on this
laboratory week
and the the feeling was that
they
couldn't sell the golf war
without this
in other words they had to
cheat to win
and that's what interests me
about the
eulogy is for George Bush he's
being
presented now as this paragon
of kind of
wasp respectability and
integrity old
school when in fact he was a
had a
violent side to him a very
angry and
violent and ruthless I do them
and when
you see him doing the
propaganda using
the hill and Knowlton
disinformation you see a side a
side of
a politician that's kind of
ugly that's
very interesting that the New
York Times
wrote a piece exactly with that
of that
conceit about you know the bush
is the
last of the wasps to go and you
know how
we adore the and I mean I don't
know if
everyone understands I don't
even if I
can complete under explain what
what
other than the acronym white
anglo-saxon
Protestant what exactly is that
Connecticut guy who talks like
this
that's the was doing when you
say
conversation you're constantly
conversation now I want to add
to this
this this kind of roundup of
this sort
of thing is pathetic had a
eulogy on his
site about Bush naming all
kinds of his
buddies including Don Gregg and
but and
it wasn't that good because he
was just
kind of talking mostly about
himself and
pichan ik didn't make this
little
comment here which I think just
adds on
to what we just heard from from
MacArthur and the democracy not
people
but I think it was inadvertent
but I'd
like to play it because they
protect
money in context that's
interesting and
at that time President Ford
appointed a
George Bush as director the CIA
for the
most part most people thought
that was
an approval and that was a
a sign that he was really quite
confident in fact the reality
was Bush
did not like Cheney he did not
like
Rumsfeld and what was happening
was a
power play in there and the
Republican
administration with a ray of
Cheney and
Rumsfeld wanted to get rid of
Bush and
the best way to do that was to
become
director of the CIA because
normally
when you become director you
really
become president then I had an
encounter
with general Antonio Noriega
when Bush
was vice president - Reagan
Noriega said
to me something interesting he
said that
Bush had been involved in the
iran-contra deal and had been
far more
resilient and tough than
anybody had
thought subsequent to that I
had a
meeting with Pat Robertson the
head of
the evangelical Christian Union
Union
and he was talking to me and
said
something very interesting here
Noriega
talks about Bush is a very tough
resilient individual and then I
asked
Pat why did you ask me down
there and he
had told me that he was
interested he
Pat Robertson was interested in
running
for president of the United
States and I
said why he said because he
found that
Bush Senior was very weak I
paused and I
looked up at him and I said
Reverend the
real issue here is that you do
not
understand Bush Bush is not
weak he may
be quiet he may be elegant he
may be a
white anglo-saxon Protestant
but trust
me he is not weak and he is
quite
ruthless
like ruthless yeah we're also
now with
that background of you know the
guy
being a ruthless gay character
yes we
have these eulogies and and I
would say
that on Democracy Now they had
some of
the worst including marine
doubt for
some reason they brought her on
and
she's got that whining voice
like that
that ex editor that we like to
play
clips from and the one that you
mean
Jill Abramson yeah Jill
Abramson George
Walker buzz she talks like him
and so
I'm gonna play I want to play
these two
clips these are both minutes
long this
is eulogizing and this was this
is what
the the mainstream media was
doing what
she's talking about what a
great guy who
was it was in ruthless he was a
nice guy
by the way the last of the nice
guys
and when you band and he was so
much
nicer than Trump so much nicer
than
eulogizing GW Bush PBS one so
we see
qualities in George Bush that
were not
appreciated at the time the
modesty the
ability to reach out to the
other side
to try to include everyone you
know
every generation as I say it
looks for
different things from a
president here
we are in the age of Donald
Trump a very
confrontational politics and the
politics of George Bush seems
like
something that was light years
ago but
perhaps may one day come back
Maureen
Dowd Michael reminds us what a
painful
loss that was for him in the 92
election
when he lost to Bill Clinton
you were
you wrote this week about your
wonderful
correspondence with hims being
in touch
with him over the years how did
he work
his way through that oh I think
that was
you know that was very hard for
him to
take because he was at ninety
percent
after you know the Persian Gulf
War and
then one day in the press
office he sort
of admitted that he had no
interest in
domestic policy he really just
loved
being in that you know Global
Club
mostly men's club and he really
didn't
want to deal with the domestic
side and
I think he kind of missed the
moment
where Americans were getting
angry
about you know the economy and
other
things and he just really glory
Dan the
funfairs part of it yeah let us
all
remember that George Bush
publicly used
the New World Order moniker
yeah so yeah
he is he is the ultimate
globalist yeah
which is that booted out too
you know
and my uncle Don loved him and
worked
for him and didn't cover his ass
properly with iran-contra
that's why
uncle Don that's my
interpretation of it
of course that's why he became
ambassador to South Korea for a
while
um and when when Obama was
president
lifelong Republican Don became a
Democrat and you know but
that's because
Obama was run by the CIA so it
was just
a company man company switch
and men
they hate Trump so much I
haven't heard
from him for him from for over
a year
won't even talk to me make some
spitting
majus to think about him that
really
does it's kind of sad so let's
go to
those part two or we get to
listen to a
marine just go off on Trump
it's not
about Trump we're talking about
this
must be our boys no no no let's
go off
against Trump but but then on
then as we
were saying I mean he lost but
he
managed to live a full life
after that
and and you again and that
piece you
wrote this week you captured a
lot of
that I mean the humor came back
the zest
for life came back well I think
Michaels
right you know when we look at
it
through the prism of Donald
Trump you
know one way to look at it is
Bush
senior would drop the first
person
pronoun pronoun personal
pronoun because
this mother always told him not
to use
the big guy not to gloat so he
would
start sentences like the Dana
Carvey
imitation imitation you know
you know
can I just have to be me now
we're
living in this world that's all
about
the eye with Donald Trump you
know the
the whole world is having to
pivot to
Trump's narcissistic I you know
what's
also happening here I feel is
that the
m5m hate Donald Trump so much
that this
is kind of like a
passive-aggressive
move to be so hazy ography like
a
geographer
I don't the word is geographic
haze your
graphic thank you to be so
hagiographic
about Bush I think some of that
is in
there I mean I think there's
some of
that in there but I think they
also have
forgotten well how could you
forget the
clip read my lips no new taxes
come on I
mean that's it that's in every
library
and nobody brought that up on
anything
including democracy now they
just went
after the dead babies yeah now
I have
two short clips just on top of
this just
to show you what you were
mentioning
about the media being so
preoccupied
with Trump I want to play these
two
clips this is eulogy with Brian
Mulroney
that one of the Canadian
honchos for
some time guy eulogizing Trump
as his
buddy and I want to play the
first clip
which is one with Judy jumping
in and
then I'm gonna ask you a
question now I
want to play to George put down
his pen
walked over to me and said
Brian I've
just learned the fundamental
principle
of international affairs I said
what's
that George he said the smaller
the
country the longer the speech
Mulrooney has special praise
for the
late president's dealings with
Canada
including the trade deal
ultimately
signed by President Clinton and
more
recently rejected by President
Trump
okay okay what did she say she
said it
was signed by you know his back
in the
day Mulrooney I guess began it
yeah so
her Bush I think no Bush
started we're
starting clean one by the way
when Bush
started it and then Clinton
signed it
Clinton got it going because
Clinton was
a smooth talker and he could
convince
but I remember that hear it's
like no
one wanted this deal because we
didn't
because Ross Perot was running
against
oh yes yes the giant sucking
sound
you're right of the jobs going
to Mexico
and so nobody was in a and they
threatened his family and told
him to
shut up and he did that was the
CIA we
did that no force no although
we don't
know now so Bush got nothing
done he
didn't get that done because he
didn't
like they said he didn't care
about
domestic policies and just
thought this
is a good idea but was kind of a
globalist idea somehow Clinton
got it
through and then according to
Judy Trump
rejected it
well no Trump threw in some
steel and
renamed it well here's the
point she put
in cheap just right there you
heard I
heard if she said he rejected
the
negative spin of course
now listen to it but listen she
put a
negative spin she knows what
the clip is
she's put this has done it this
was a
package uh-huh she knows what
the clip
is so she put a negative spin
on the
next thing you're going to hear
and you
tell me if that's not biased
President
Bush was also responsible for
the North
American Free Trade Agreement
recently modernized and
improved by new
administration's which created
the
largest and richest free trade
area in
the history of the world she
did a
reverse whipsaw modernize
improved is
what he said geez and she says
you know
just putting everything in a
negative
light
I mean it's shameful yeah well
that's my
little thing on you're going to
give you
a clip of the day for the whole
package
John thank you
I'm so happy that Democracy Now
paid off
in spades that you know you
just want to
like not another Democracy Now
clip it's
like wow conspiracy now you
know we've
always forget about the babies
and the
incubators as another kind of a
modern
false flag to get people to go
to war
what a fall I think off of
Tompkins was
the bigger one before that
there's been
other ones yeah and the public
at large
is how you guys because that's
conspiracy yeah it's a proven
even
faster the conspiracy I recall
us
talking about Hill and Knowlton
a lot
and the jobs they did and how
they did
it and we should revisit those
topics I
actually have one I have one
Bush clip
one and I was very happy that I
could
contribute to this otherwise
fantastic
compendium and I hereby issue a
the u P
4141 was dedicated the
President Bush it
was unveiled in 2005 at a
special
transportation exhibit at his
library
and he was there to see the
unveiling
and he was thrilled with it and
we've
been running it around our
system ever
since this
this locomotive will carry the
casket
for President Bush from Houston
to
College Station for a final
interment
people are not as accustomed to
travel
by passenger rail on train we
mainly
haul Freight but President Bush
as a
veteran of World War two he
went to war
on the train he came home for
more on
this race and I think that
emotional
connection to the railroad
really stuck
with him so when he was
planning his
funeral and talking to his
staff about
how he wanted to be remembered
he wanted
to have his final trip to
College
Station to be on the railroad
so as we
go from Houston up to College
Station we
will pass through several small
towns
we'll go through old town
spring and
we'll go through Magnolia and
Navasota
and we anticipate that
thousands of
people will be lining the route
at each
of those locations to pay their
final
respects to President Bush it's
a great
opportunity for all the people
in this
part of Texas to really
participate in a
very historic occasion
i I was just tearing up hearing
the news
of the Train the Bush 40 want
the 4141
train ladies and gentlemen he's
got his
own locomotive I saw it it's
beautiful
gosh there it is whoa sexy
it had that blue and white
markings just
like Air Force One personally I
think
they blew an opportunity here
especially
AM truck I think they could
have put an
Amtrak thing on there and it
could have
been trailin 20 cars people
could have
gone on the tour they could
have gone on
a tour and I think it could
have been
nationwide they could have
tried driven
this thing all over the country
with
bush still in the in the
Catskill in
there in a refrigerated car was
on the
train with it with with the
corpse of
George HW Bush and it was
fantastic and
they can get top dollar they
can they
could run it all over the
country
get nothing but good publicity
and make
some money on the side Oh
[Music]
let me grab the let me grab
this with
the wheel for a second
something we've
been talking about I think it's
been
much more your topic for a
decade
probably maybe just about a
decade it
finally happened so heretofore
tumblr
had allowed adult content so
naturally
communities sort of built up
around that
this was the place you could
feature
adult content originally people
had
migrated from LiveJournal when
they
started banning adult content
to tumblr
so this became a place where
people
thought that you could put it
and now
that's no longer the case and
what's
behind that decision a few
things tumblr
was purchased by Verizon last
year that
might have something to do with
it that
might have something to do with
it I can
you imagine the Verizon
executives in
the board meaning some saying
you guys
know what's on this thing that
this
Marissa thought oh my god
what was it 2 billion what did
she pay
for it it was a lot I don't
know what
she paid for but it was the
most idiotic
I mean unless you really Inlet
I have to
assume she just likes she likes
porn
that's the only conclusion
tumblr was
purchased by Verizon last year
that
might have something to do with
it and
then after this child porn
incident on
Apple this is what really went
down as
Apple removed their app from
the App
Store for some child
pornography and
this is all part of the big
purge this
is the tech giants of the world
who are
going to I really started to
focus on
this and Tim Cook actually
really
brought it into view for me it
goes
beyond some kind of liberalism
that you
know we we understand what's
better for
everybody and that's why we're
throwing
people off shadow banning D
platforming
you know D monetizing and what
all the
adjectives we have for it is a
lot but
there's there's an actual
belief yet
they are what it was D
agitating or
whatever that word was D
monetizing
demonetised
I'm demonetised bro sucks
that's what
that one lady went and shot up
Twitter
for because they D monitor our
YouTube
they demonetised her remember
yeah
California so but what I've
come to the
conclusion I have three clips
from Tim
Cook and you may have seen a
very short
bit and this is really the work
that
I've been focusing on more
often now is
whenever there's some meme that
goes
around which everyone's like
hahaha look
at this Oh crazy outrage yeah
you gotta
go look at the full thing
because not
only is it often out of context
and
therefore void sometimes the
real meet
is elsewhere in the story and
its really
being obfuscated by a little a
little
clip but I think the elites in
Silicon
Valley and Tim Cook is gonna be
at the
top of this pyramid truly
believe they
have the power to make the
world a
better place but in into its
religious
at this point so he was given
an award
by the ADL the anti-defamation
league
it's the courage against hate
award the
first one which is always now
you gotta
wonder about these things I
remember we
needed Michael Jackson to to
perform on
the Video Music Awards at MTV
and yeah
so then the dealing start yeah
yeah you
got a well then you have to do
this you
have to you got to play this
video and
then we also said well we'll
give you an
award it'll be the Michael
Jackson video
Vanguard Award of the year
named after
him and I think JLo just
received it and
it is presented as the Michael
Jackson
video Vanguard Award of the
year we also
by the way promised that we
would always
say Michael Jackson followed by
the King
of Pop and we did in fact when
once had
to record a whole weekend all
over again
because we hadn't been told we
had to do
it anyway I digress
so Tim Cook no I don't think
that's a
digression that idea that you
have to
say the King of Pop was
ridiculous that
we had to go back and rerecord
everything because we didn't
say it that
was ridiculous that was off the
hook
that was two days of work
so cook receives this award and
so he's
clearly there to present a
message and
in in these three clips it kind
I'd put
these into three categories the
first
one is we are holy we're
technology were
holy and we're goodness the
second clip
weights the second clip
includes the
little bit that you may have
seen online
and it's about the values and
what our
values are as our holiness and
the third
clip is really what blew me
away by
itself it doesn't work you have
to kind
of hear them in sequence where
I believe
he is of thinking that he is
God not him
but Apple and maybe just
technology so
let's start with with his
opening intro
here as he explains how holy
they are
this may sound simple but it's
not said
often enough Apple is a
technology
company but we never forget
that the
devices we make are imagined by
human
minds built by human hands and
are meant
to improve human lives I
sometimes say
that I worry less about
computers that
think like people and more
about people
that think like computers
applause without values or
compassion
without concern for
consequences and so
we try to stay rooted and to
keep our
devices connected to the
humanity that
makes us us so you are right
this holy
stuff yeah he's full of himself
and I
have I must say as an editorial
decision
each of these clips has about
30 edits
because Tim Cook talks like this
and makes a point
sometimes with a lot of space
well I'll
tell you the deadest are fine
because it
still got the right rhythm it
sounds
like he's actually talking okay
good
work thank you all right this
is the
longest of the three but this
is this is
we get down into the meat of
the values
what Apple will and will not
stand for
and please keep in the backdrop
that all
technology all technology can
be used
for good or bad you know our
cars great
technology are they technology
of course
they're technology you can use
them for
transportation but you can also
mow
people down on the street with
it all
taste ball bag baseball bat yes
fire is
technology and everything can
be used
for good or for bad but not
with Apple
because while they're holy this
mandate
moves us to speak up for
immigrants and
for those who seek opportunity
in the
United States we do it not only
because
their individual dignity
creativity and
ingenuity have the power to
make this
country in even better place
but because
our own humanity commands us to
welcome
those who need welcome it moves
us to
speak up for the LGBTQ
community for
those whose differences can
make them a
target for violence and scorn
we do so
not only because these unique
and
uncommon perspectives can open
our eyes
to new ways of thinking but
because our
own dignity moves us to see the
dignity
and others did you get the
feeling how
noble and dignified these Apple
people
are noble he feels when he
pushes for
immigration so he can get more
h-1b
workers to work cheaper then
maybe
somebody over 40 who he could
have hired
to do the same job but he's had
to pay
more money
blasphemy Dvorak blasphemy
perhaps most
importantly it drives us not to
be
bystanders bystanders as hate
tries to
make its headquarters in the
digital
world at Apple we believe that
technology needs to have a
clear point
of view on this challenge
so now technology as a point of
view
this is very this is
fascinating this
guy fasten and I think he's
probably a
really nice guy but he is his
mill yo is
just I'll bet you that he said
was a
nice guy that if you actually
was set
he'd be one of those guys who
never
connects with you when you chat
with him
you know what I mean is like
he's out
there he's like yeah how could
you but
he's talking to some you know
something
he sees and you know that
you're right
because even this rhythm that
he has
that I screwed up a little bit
by the
editing it's it's the same as
it's
exactly the same as a keynote
you know
he's not really connecting with
the
audience he's he's delivering
his prose
you know the audience she's
like and
this is the same kind of
audience uh
Apple we believe that
technology needs
to have a clear point of view
on this
challenge there is no time to
get tied
up in knots that's why we only
have one
message for those who seek to
push hate
division and violence you have
no place
on our platforms
[Applause]
you had no home here from the
earliest
days of iTunes to Apple music
today we
have always prohibited music
with a
message of white supremacy you
know just
as just a real simple one
I just went to iTunes when I
heard this
said let me see you fuck the
police are
still up there of course it is
even the
karaoke version why because
it's the
right thing to do
and as we show this year we
won't give a
platform to violent conspiracy
theorists
on the App Store okay
violent conspiracy theorists
I mean it's one thing to say
white he
said white supremacist he said
hate but
now he escalated to violent
conspiracy
theorists he's talking about
Alex Jones
is he violent not that I know
of that
conspirator okay so a
conspiracy stares
is okay but if I if I punch an
old lady
then I get deep platformed
I just totally means by violent
well he's equating words to
physical
harm I guess that could be to
do and as
we showed this year we won't
give a
platform to violent conspiracy
theorists
on the app store because it's
the right
thing to do my friends if we
can't be
clear on moral questions like
these then
we've got big problems it Apple
we are
not afraid to say that our
values drive
our curation decision curation
and why
should we be raishin what's
right that's
pretty that's pretty
interesting to say
curation because you know well
I guess
they don't really fall under
Section 230
I don't know if they claim they
do but
they answer yeah your curating
so do you
have every right to throw off
what you
want that's fine but well we'll
talk
about what that could mean in a
minute
use drive our curation
decisions and why
should we be doing what's right
creating experiences free from
violence
and hate experiences that
empower
creativity and new ideas it's
what our
customers want us to do
technology
should be about human potential
it
should be about optimism if we
believe
the future should belong to
those who
use technology to build a
better more
inclusive and more hopeful world
[Applause]
like to teach the world to sing
after
all history is full of examples
of what
can happen when those with
power and
those who ought to have good
judgment
instead look the other way
now what what he's saying at
the very
end there is there's examples
in history
where those with power really
messed
things up by looking the other
way
and in this case he's not
referring to
Trump he's referring to Apple
he's
referring to us is us
themselves they
have the power and they are
taking a
stand and I don't know I guess
fuck the
police is not violence in their
minds
that's okay that's completely
up to them
I'm sure you can find plenty of
other
examples and maybe some Laura
sure
producers can find it all
there's tons
of them but it's you know it's
whatever
apples apples values are very
important
that's how Hillary Clinton lost
the
election is how Apple is going
to lose
their ass now the last bit here
he
brings up the the Greek
du-uh s machina god in the
machine and I
left his explanation of whether
I cut it
up a little bit but I left his
explanation of what that is
where it
comes from in there only just
you can
hear the bad joke that he makes
but then listen to it his
explanation of
what that means God in the
machine and
to me is clear belief that they
at Apple
are the God in the machine you
might
know the phrase deus ex machina
God from
the machine for those who don't
it's an
idea that started as a bit of
an inside
joke among the ancient Greek
playwrights
basically it's a critique of
the bad
habit
these playwrights like to get
their
characters into impossibly
perilous
situations and then rescue them
at the
last minute by some miraculous
twist in
the story often the actors were
even
physically hoisted out of
danger by a
crane or some other elaborate
machine in
other words deus ex machina is
how the
first movie critic accused the
first
directors abusing special
effects to
cover up this lazy screenwriter
bomb but
this idea of God from the
machine has
stayed with us through the ages
because
it's so comforting just when
the world
seems to be getting more
dangerous just
when it seems like the
challenges may be
greater than our ability to
solve them
it's reassuring to think that
some
technological marvel some
creation of
our own hands will solve the
problem for
us but what I admire so much
about the
ADL is that your entire history
provides
a lesson here if the machines
we build
are going to help us solve the
world's
problems then the god part that
decency
mercy and humanity is going to
have to
come from all of us
after all we only have one life
so why
not use it to make the world a
better
place
[Applause]
there you go and you know when
Apple
deep deep platformed Alex Jones
everyone
else followed and so this is a
follow me
moment in Silicon Valley and I
think
that he does speak for most
executives
and most executives do not want
their
app pulled from the App Store
so they're
all going to follow now in
Apple's
footsteps and you can you can
hear what
it means and that's just tim
collins
cook's tom things that's his own
personal belief system but i
think it's
going to hurt the company
severely
I'm not gonna argue with you on
this
it's a very it's a lot of
hubris it
takes a lot of nerves
patronizing it
makes all kinds of assumptions
that none
of them are good it's like you
fool
yourself I mean you make the
phones you
make iPhones and you make
computers and
you make a few other doodads
that are
inconsequential in the history
of
mankind and because you have a
closed
platform there you go with the
outrageously closed platform for
everything you have to buy for
any of
the equipment if you can even
open them
because it's not allowed not
allowed to
repair open an iPhone to fix
the screen
on your own or something like
that or
somebody else does it it voids
the
warranty this is not good he's
full of
crap is an evil company yes
yeah without
knowing it and you know he has
an
example to look to because
things are
gonna go wrong and you'll need
a couple
of mistakes and the Internet is
the
information still wants to go
where
wants to go this you see all
this stuff
leaking out everywhere you
recall that
Mark Zuckerberg refused to go
and answer
questions in UK Parliament boy
they sure
got back at him they but
slammed the kid
Facebook under public scrutiny
again
after new internal documents
that were
made public Wednesday showed
the social
media giant giving special
access to
user data to other companies
like Airbnb
lyft and Netflix the documents
had been
under sealed but a British
parliamentary
committee investigating Facebook
released them revealing the
inner
workings of Facebook from about
2012 to
2015 the committee says the
documents
show Facebook turned over data
to select
companies while restricting
access for
others Reuters tech
correspondent /
Esteve these documents could
add to the
ongoing scrutiny on Facebook
especially
about its potentially
anti-competitive
behavior its privacy practices
its
growth hacking tactics and
business
model Facebook has faced
scrutiny around
the world from lawmakers
regulators and
other government bodies these
documents
could serve has new evidence
for those
inquiries
and these 250 pages that were
released
are fantastic I mean what's not
in this
report is proof we heard about
it it was
dismissed but proof that on
Android they
changed their app so that users
phone
logs SMS texts were logged in
their app
and that they on the update did
not
receive a change in permissions
they
hack their way around it and
they
explained how they did it on
email this
it's a it's fantastic it's a
you have to
download this and just read
through it
it's it's emails back and forth
and just
how they talk to each other it
makes you
want to puke it and you know
it's this
is they've got real problems I
think
just the opposite just the
opposite my
dear friend well I think what
this shows
that these guys are the
kick-ass kind of
like do anything to get ahead
company
that is the kind of thing you
want to
invest in well you may want to
see if
the bottom has reached yet
before you
stick hit the buy we have this
game on
DHN plug tonight I already
think we hit
the bottom what at the bottom
is about
130 yeah
no I think it's nice more I
hear the
better it sounds I mean maybe
I'm just
the opposite of Tim Cook who
would be a
gasps oh oh I'm going to swoon
I can't
believe this is going on
gambling going
on here in the bar no I think
this is I
find it's just yeah I mean I
think it's
funny that these I know they're
scrambling over there the
offices like
because they're getting busted
left and
right for being the dicks that
they are
and apparently they are dicks
and it
shows so memos and even when
Zuckerberg
goes up to he doesn't do a very
good job
he's not a personable person
he's just
kind of a you know robotic like
guy but
he knows what he's doing and
Sandberg is
just obviously a very cunning
runt Wow
cunning runs nice in Australia
they know
exactly what that means well
the point
is is that she is ruthless and
I think
maybe the spirit of George Bush
went
right into her but as far as I
can I
mean and so far as an
investment is
concerned I'm liking Facebook
more and
more Wow okay I'll take your
130 and
I'll say one I'll say
eighty-seven
dollars is where there may be a
bottle I
think down like that any 87
would be
great I think that's where it's
headed
people are abandoning this
platform not
all their platforms but this
one they
are abandoning and you know
this what
happens is these government's
they start
to figure out how it works and
there's
also some massive media
tomahawks out
there and in after the break
all by the
way this is the where I see the
weakness
the media tomahawks the media
and I have
one clip about this but the
media is
finally gotten a clue instead
of like us
on Facebook it's like let us get
Facebook because they are if if
the
media doesn't stop them they're
gonna be
the media is gonna be even in
worship
than they are already
ever since news first broke
that a
political consulting firm
Cambridge
analytic I was able to get data
from 87
million Facebook users there
have been
more questions
about whether Facebook sold or
shared
more data with other companies
then it's
led on publicly that
investigation has
been continuing in Europe today
as Nick
Schifrin tells us there are new
documents that show the social
media
giant gave other companies
select access
to users data Judy the
documents were
released by a British Parliament
committee and seemed to show
Facebook
using all of our data as a
bargaining
chip to increase revenue the
committee
accuses Facebook of cutting
special
deals with companies like
Netflix Airbnb
and lyft to access users data
because
those companies were
advertising on
Facebook Facebook restricted
access to
users data to companies it
deemed
competition yeah this is
perfect I was
gonna do this after our break
but you've
led me into it with this so I'm
gonna do
these it's a series of clips
the only
other series I have and I can
do it
before the break but we have to
do it
because it is this frontline PBS
Frontline interviewed Brad
parse Cal and
he is the guy who ran the
digital I
think we played some clips from
in the
past he's the guy who ran as
the digital
media campaign for Trump mainly
Facebook
and I think he's currently the
only
person working on Trump's
twenty20
re-election campaign which I'm
sure is
online at this point and not
only did he
say that he had to have a full
recording
of their interview but as a
part of
something new the PBS Frontline
transparency project which as
recommended by that spook which
one of
the the Woodward or Bernstein
whoever at
Bernstein like oh we should
chop up the
interviews and then put the
whole thing
online so they did they put the
whole
interview online it is
fantastic to
watch is them in hour and 15
minutes it
the whole point of this
interview is to
discredit facebook to show how
the Trump
campaign manipulated Facebook's
algorithms how how it you know
how the
internet research agency and the
Russians were able to change
votes
they're come so micro focused
and this
guy who's doing the interview
he can't
he just can't make it happen
it's so bad
at the end and you know it's
really bad
when your producer starts
interrupting
and asking counter questions
behind
there's a female voice who
starts
jumping in and you know that
it's things
are not going well with your
little
piece here your hit job um so
this is
really a face bag hit job gone
terribly
wrong and as a as a former
marketer and
I think you'll find it
interesting as
well John to listen really how
they did
it what the strategy was and
the tactics
which were elegantly simple and
not so
foreign to us is just nice to
hear
because it kind of shows you
you know is
everything new or is the old
stuff just
faster and so what was the
primary in
the primary season what was the
strategy
on Facebook and how did it kind
of shift
going into 20s and all shock it
all how
so what's that mean
which means does put mr. Trump
this
message
let him speak directly to
camera and
give it to as many people as
possible I
also say parse cow has the same
illness
as Tim Cook there must be tech
thing
again there must be 30 edits
just taking
out the long pauses for your
listening
enjoyment and when you say
shock and awe
do you mean that in that you
were
bombarding people with kind of
boring
him or don't worry look yeah
it's not
about what we were showing it's
not
shock as in the type of content
it's the
shock of here is a considerable
amount
of content to just continue to
show them
directly from the President or
Donald
Trump and so I take shock a lot
more
just the military sense of
let's just go
and flood the zone I mean but
in terms
of shock and awe content I mean
one of
the things there things go
viral right
on Facebook sort of playing to
the
outbreak you said this is what
I like so
this guy thinks he knows how it
works
like well you know things play
into the
algorithms right you know this
this
never-ending AI belief in
machine
learning and it matters yeah
shocking
all content I mean one of the
things
there things go viral
right on Facebook and they're
sort of
playing to the algorithm and
you know of
what's engaging
hold on a second stop yes
what does any algorithm have to
do with
things going viral I think what
he's
trying to say or what he wants
to get
out of this guy is when you have
controversial content that gets
people
pissed off they click on it and
that
goes viral that's what he wants
to hear
he wants to hear that the Trump
campaign
the dirty tricks played into
all kinds
of nastiness and that crank the
algos
and he won the election that's
that's
the story here
brother sort of playing to the
algorithm
and by the way it's PBS
Frontline is it
not some you know shuck and
jive outfit
no these are not shuck and
drive drivers
at all this is the Hot Shots
yeah this
is the top pros from Dover you
know of
what's engaging content and was
there
thinking inside of the campaign
that
what's more engaging on
Facebook for
instance is more shocking
content more
incendiary content no it
doesn't you
consider account at all what I
mean is
the Donald Trump speaking to the
American people was a shock to
the
system they have for so many
years
received a concentrated message
that had
been filtered by the media into
what
they were being told they
needed to be
to do the left wants you to
believe that
that is something that was that
was
above and beyond no it was just
a
message different than theirs
and it was
a message about a conservative
voice and
he delivered that directly to
him in in
large volume and we did we did
have to
make anything we just had to
let mr.
Trump talk directly the camera
and they
listened I know but are you
telling me
that inside of the campaign
there wasn't
thinking about what actually
triggers
the algorithm what actually
makes things
go viral that more know that
that nope
that wasn't thinking inside of
the
campaign at that point nope so
it was a
cell Donald Trump's message he
has never
changed his message to equal an
algorithm right but does it
work in the
advantage I mean I'm just
wondering
because you know how social
media works
you know social media works so
do you
don't you bro nice guy is just
on a job
this guy should be fired from
frontline
he might be I mean I I didn't I
have too
much content to have done clips
of his
producer jumping all over him
but that
when that happens you know you
know you
should start getting a
cardboard box and
see what this guy's to say
instead of
trying to make him say stuff
exactly
does it work in the advantage I
mean I'm
just wondering because you know
how
social media works right you
know what
the algorithm favors content
that's
engaging diverse content that
that is
emotional to some degree so
you're
saying that the messaging of the
campaign did not play on that
in any way
because American people the
reason why
it went viral is news people
were
seeking that message and was it
in any
way seen as an opportunity to
or the
chance to experiment in that
with
different messaging for
instance that
there wouldn't be I mean
granted people
could share right and just
again right
but there the rules are very
different
and the game is very different
than on
TV a lot more people see it it's
exposing so much it's actually
less if I
run an ad and only Eastern
Washington on
a local DMA who else sees it
just so you
understand diem he's talking
about a
demographic area in a
television local
television media by this is a
little
technical but it's interesting
because
he's basically dispelling
everything
that they've thought about this
campaign
in facebook it's actually less
if I run
an ad and only Eastern
Washington on a
local DMA who all sees it only
people in
the eastern DMA Washington
right right
so if I run it Facebook ad and
that same
DMA and they share it with
people in LA
who just saw more there is I
could give
you all that mail the same way
less
shared the difference is that
when the
left saw that we use it so well
they
they panicked and thought that
that
somehow we twisted people's
minds what
which didn't happen is because
they
couldn't explain it because
they once
lost control that's the beauty
of the
internet because the airs
the ads could be shared because
it was
so open it allowed it to expand
and to
become a movement is the actual
opposite
of what they want to believe so
he
basically had a hundred million
dollars
and just bought the right
brought ads
for the right people and just
focused on
the right areas the rest of my
clips are
not as long but I think it's
really
important to hear some of this
cuz it's
debunking a lot of the theories
that
we've been blanketed with now
this guy
may be full of crap I don't
know but it
sounds think so I think he's
right on
the money this other guy the
one is full
well that's what makes it
entertaining
to listen
so now the another tact well
hold on a
second you know it's misleading
you
don't know if it's an ad it
could be
just you know it shows up as
content you
know people don't know it's
advertising
it's you know this is the
trying to say
this never happens in the New
York Times
with their native ad probe oh
well I he
didn't quite answer it that way
but he
came close do you think it was
clear in
2016 that there was a
substantive
difference in a Facebook feed
between
pads and contents does Adelman
and
sponsored content is sponsored
and you
think that an American voter is
actually
is going to know the difference
between
that yeah I mean I will tell
you much
worse is you open up the Wall
Street
Journal or you'll actually
moreover the
New York Times you know the
difference
between an opinion piece in a
news piece
yeah you do really sure there's
one word
one word underneath your title
it says
opinion what's the difference
being the
one where this is sponsored I
love how
the interviewer you know thinks
the
American public is stupid and
they're
stupid but when it's the New
York Times
of course the people who read
the New
York Times they see the word
opinion
obviously although the New York
Times
readers are so much I think
that people
know that when they first of
all it's
not man if you look back how
things were
done in 26 60 percent of the
content now
in major newspapers and on
major outlets
now or opinion pieces thirty
years ago
it was less than like 10% we
have turned
into an entire media company
that in a
media outlet system there's
mainly a bit
more on opinion and commentary
instead
of news so you you turn on any
new major
news media tonight and you
watch it and
you consume how much was
commentary and
how much of US news that has
flipped I
think that what has happened
well the
youth the new this industry
would say in
response to that that it's what
makes
some money well it's the only
way to get
engagement on the face to make
money
what the guy the guy the
interviewee the
Trump guy is right of course
online does
not pay the way print does and
so you
have to start pulling these
stunts to
get attention opinion does a
much better
job
and then paid content yes so
you just
buy these stories and put them
in there
and that's what these guys have
to do to
survive you cannot run an online
publication and make money
using the old
models you can't even come
close that
doesn't fit in this
interviewers brain
because he's pure he's he's
pure of
journalistic thought what
engages people
when Facebook is your news
source is
opinion and is polarizing I
would say
what the Trump campaign put up
online
was a hundred times more real
than all
the news articles that were put
up are
you serious because I would
read the
articles and they were false
one after
another after another because I
actually
was in the room I was with him I
listened to him I was in all the
meetings and piece after piece
after
piece was full of anonymous
sources
single source content fake
stories over
and over again every day every
day it's
why I record this conversation
that's
why everything I do now I have
to think
that everyone's gonna do
something fake
against me so then the you know
of
course there's Facebook is
doing things
like oh we're going to publish
all the
ads and show that their
political ads
everyone can see the ads and we
all know
it's good transparency and what
it mean
what do you make of the fact
that you
know how does it change your
strategy
going into 2020 the fact that
Facebook's
changed some of its policies
about for
instance they're gonna know all
the ends
yeah sure what he has will just
save me
a bunch of money because now I
get to
see my that's free so it's not
it
doesn't hamstring you in any
way in
terms of what ads you want to
show to
what people hmm just lets other
people
see my eyes for free I'm it's
kinda like
a gift the guy's head is going
oh how
can this be
now do you some factual stuff
that I
hear before this I had not
heard about
Cambridge analytic and analytic
I okay I
hope this our producers
appreciate some
of these this clip these clips
are a
little like I would say dry but
extremely valuable
thank you that's how I saw it
as well
that's why I spent a lot of time
tightening them up because it's
so long
and yeah it is a little dry
this next
piece is really you know is
it's a real
nugget I'm just gonna ask you
what is
your impression of the Trump
campaigns
involvement with Cambridge
analytic and
data what do you know about
that just
from what is the accepted truth
on
Snopes
who else nope I really don't
know that
there was a connection between
data
between analytic and fate and
Facebook
our thinking is what we're
talking about
well be from necessarily the
way I
understood the story the way the
narrative plays is Cambridge
analytic
Bannen went over there Bannen
set it all
up and they had illegally
accessed
Facebook data and then that
data was
merged with all kinds of stuff
for this
massive smart micro-targeting
well I
think we've already just made
the case
that it was never illegal how
the show I
think you'll be surprised when
you hear
what his answer is the Trump
campaign
paid Cambridge analytic nearly
6 million
bucks where'd you get for that
money
well five million dollars that
was a TV
buy so you got to wipe off five
million
dollars Steve and I made a
purchase of
TV advertising that was that
round the
East Coast
they have a television division
where
they've literally just placed
television
they're paid I think
approximate on
$800,000 we receive staff the
reason I
hired Cambridge analytical was
actually
not for Cambridge analytical I
didn't
know about their company had
anything
about him they had hired some
of the
Scott Walker digital team in
2015 these
were the guys that had really
helped
Scott Walker reelect and there
was a guy
named maddest kalki when I met
Kay image
I thought they were full of
crap but I
met Matt as Kelsey and I really
liked
him he had experience running a
very
well targeted to a little crepe
brand
digital campaign I actually
wanted to
hire him without Cambridge and
he said
I'm under contract so I asked
him for an
employment contract and so I
hired them
for staff only and each one of
the
payments between then and
Election Day
with her staff only
and then Matt worked on my team
with
with four or five of his people
and they
mainly ran pulling
visualization and
support staff to all the things
we
needed to do to you know get
things done
digitally I actually hadn't
hired
Cambridge and looking for any
data work
hire them for any other data
would you
regret any affiliation with
Cambridge
analytical hindsight's 2020 now
I don't
regret I don't regret because
I'm
sitting here today and Donald
Trump's
president so I'm not gonna
regret that
decision you know sad what
Cambridge any
analytic executives did but I
barely
knew him didn't even have
anything like
contact with him and for the
day I hired
him til after the day off the
election
I'd actually never talked to
any of
those guys so we don't know how
truthful
this is but I've never heard
this
version of the story I'd never
heard
that either but I want to
mention
something to some of our sports
fans out
there I'm listening to this guy
names
this guy sounds like somebody
and if
anybody I know she gotta be ten
guys are
gonna get this joke he sounds
exactly
like clay Thompson of the of
the Golden
Gate Warriors that's I'm done
okay claps
I was just stepping back for the
laughter Ivan yeah I'm sure
you're right
all right to part of this then
we're
done and this comes down to our
questioning of the
effectiveness of the
ad buy that the internet
research agency
did and how they were able to
change the
minds of millions of Americans
to vote
for Donald Trump as well as for
$100,000
yeah well a hundred thousand
dollars
turns out that wasn't really
the budget
and you know what yeah yeah and
and you
know we also have we've had all
kinds of
questions about the
effectiveness of the
platform I think if you know if
you can
span less the story is a hundred
thousand dollars and you can
make
someone president which is what
the the
accusation is and we have what
twelve
indictments of Internet
research agency
dudes based upon this $100,000
collusion
campaign or the influencer
campaign yeah
it was so wide well I think
parse call
does a good job of explaining
it as far
as I know Facebook has not
released all
of the repository of the
advertising
that happened on their platform
during
2016 whether it was by the
Russians or
the Trump campaign or any other
actors
who were cool Trump campaigns
on an
actor
vanes the official dark money
groups or
anyone else there also if if
you talk
about super PACs and see fors
and all
those things that's part of the
current
political system but the only
thing is
it's been accusatory is what
these
actors did from this internet
research
company or whatever is the only
one I
know about and the only one
I've read
about and what I've read about
is during
the last couple months of the
campaign
there was only a fraction of
money spent
well less than hundred thousand
somewhere down under ten
thousand
dollars Rangers been different
accounts
of how much that is I'm saying
six
thousands I'm saying eight
thousand but
the fraction of that probably
what was
spent on Facebook was probably
close to
500 to 600 million the United
States by
legitimate organizations and to
try to
say that that 500 or 600
million that
six thousand dollars somehow
influence
600 million is the biggest
piece of just
malarkey I've ever heard even
though
Facebook is actually a very
effective
targeting tool yeah they can't
say that
though because it would say
that's like
singing a restaurant goes puts
five
thousand dollars from some
restaurant
and in Wichita Kansas put five
thousand
dollars and all over the world
make the
next day is gonna know how
great that
restaurant is from five
thousand dollars
advertising just doesn't happen
it's not
possible I don't understand it
and if
someone shows me the proof that
somehow
it influenced somebody I
haven't seen it
but I think the media wants you
to
believe it because they want to
believe
that that somehow none of this
is legit
that these guys somehow faked
all
everybody out for six thousand
dollars
and I think it's a big joke I
mean you
can't even I can barely fly
from here to
Hawaii him back for six
thousand dollars
I'm not gonna change the entire
American
electric fort so apparently the
last six
weeks which is really when he
spent
ninety million dollars on shock
and awe
in in the right places but that
was
that's what he says just it was
just a
lot to them to the people we
were
interested in and they Reshard
it versus
the six thousand so he
questions the
validity of that and he has an
explanation as to why facebook
won't
actually set the record
straight do you
think that facebook bears any
responsibility for the fact
that bad
actors with us are using these
powerful
tools
mess with the American
electorate could
it maybe question why a Russian
company
with Russian IP addresses or
buying ads
on a platform sounds kind of
you know
suspicious to me also you know
maybe it
was just a little amount of
money they
spent that it just went under
the radar
you know six thousand dollars
whatever
is the last six weeks or
whatever eight
weeks I mean I was spending
that per
half second per millisecond
probably so
if you take that over six weeks
I mean
they were spinning point zero
zero zero
zero one cents per second so I
mean I
could get help maybe a fly
under the
radar I think they'll do a
better job
now they'll probably verifying
initial
ad vendors and so this problem
doesn't
go away but I would imagine
it's more to
do with the small amount of
money they
spent if they woulda came to
spend a
hundred million dollars and
they said
they were going to or they even
started
to spend the kind of money I
would
imagine I didn't want a big
Facebook's
biggest mistakes was is there
they they
were they were in a conflict of
marketing versus ethics so
actually
explain to everybody that's six
thousand
dollars in agile II wasn't
doing much
also makes you sound like your
platforms
not that powerful to do
something for
cheap so if you want to get rid
of every
small vendors using your
platform in
America go on TV and say wow
that
actually isn't very much so
Facebook
could have was caught in the
gonna catch
22 to say Russia couldn't do a
lot that
little about on money of these
actors
were also says that all the
small
businesses across America you
can't
actually do something effective
for that
little bit of money so they
were kind of
caught in a little paradox so
what
they've almost said is yeah a
hundred
thousand hundred million or the
same
thing you know well even hundred
thousand six thousand dollars I
said
they only spent like less than
ten
dollars or so him same period
time that
I spend a hundred million retro
there you go I don't know if
that made
it into the final piece because
I've not
seen the the edited show
somehow I would
think they would but maybe
they're too
stupid I doubt it
cuz that's that's the money
shot I was
doing the interviewing he has
to be one
of them and that woman who's
behind him
have to be part of the
producing package
and they're the ones that are
gonna make
that put that together with
this guy and
they're gonna they're gonna
clip maybe
five minutes from all that oh
if that
yeah if that well no front line
does
clip as much as five minutes
but they
don't do it it they don't play
it all at
once
yeah but the whole the whole
piece and
it's in the show notes and a
show notes
com is well worth watching
because it
goes there's a lot of detail
about how
they used Facebook if anybody's
an
amateur marketing guy oh we
have a
number producers who have to do
that
sort of thing sales yep sales
and
marketing I'd listen to this
this sounds
like a very revealing interview
the guy
was very face forward with
everything he
wasn't trying to off obfuscate
any
tricks or secrets yeah and it
was there
was other interesting stuff
which I
didn't clip but you know the
accusation
which came from a Bloomberg
report that
they targeted the zip code with
African
American Americans with all
kinds of
terrifying things about Hillary
Clinton
and his comeback is do you
think I'm
stupid see no one targets by
zip code
anymore we look at a zip code
and see
the people there when we have
all their
interests we just we don't see
skin
color we don't give a crap we
just we
just go look at that are they
likely
Trump voters that's it
zip codes is like two
generations old
versions of Mark exactly nobody
does
that anymore yeah but but they
were dead
serious about it in the
interview is
headshake well if this was done
by a
commercial operation like CBS
or ABC or
NBC they would have people
doing the
interview that look new that
were a
little more up-to-date and by
up-to-date
I mean 50 years up to date this
guy is
thinking that 50 years ago that
I used
to do stuff like that what but
now what
I realized though is you know
the guys
mike is sounds horrible the
interviewer
is because he'll never be on
screen
this is the way frontline does
it is
they they just hold it horsing
yeah
almost everybody does that
nowadays yeah
you got the voiceover but if
they're
gonna have to pull any clips
from this
you know then you have to do
some fancy
footwork on the voiceover to
make it fit
any narrative because clearly
Facebook
yeah it works like all other
media the
more you buy the more you
repeat the
more it works
yeah well they do have the
targeting
that the other guys don't have
oh yeah
exactly that's but that's the
thing
they've got the tart it's just
it's
basically faster you can get
the same
targeting from four other
networks but
you from television from print
you can
get some of that some yeah
anyway so
there you go
I think now we should take a
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see runt
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well well
the reason I think that is
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it's like a the Eagle Scout has
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I think the incessant the
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Kellyanne Conway has probably
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should just
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maybe didn't
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feel some improvement to the
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the topic of Trump coverage now
now I
want to stop here this is a
very long
note by the way it's very long
note I'm
gonna price skip some of it but
I want
to stop here and mention that
the
preoccupation with Trump is in
the media
but it's also in our notes with
people
bitching about Trump coverage
you know
you know I don't you did anyone
find
this ironic yeah very ironic
like now we
have to listen to you bitch
about us
bitching about yeah well the
topic Trump
coverage on the show has been a
sensitive one for you since so
before
you read on I want you to know
I'm not
trying to be confrontational I
just want
to have an open dialogue as it
seems
there's a disconnect between us
as
people who listen to the show
and I'm
gonna I'm sorry I think I'm
channeling
his voice yes it's this
Michigan local
one you know they had a they
had a
meet-up which they do very
regularly and
I think that the topic of
Trump's
coverage was discussed and I'm
really
don't feel like talking about
it but
fine those who managed to
perform the
show this was people performing
the show
I feel that way after hearing
grumbling
about keeping the Trump segment
short
there's no segment there's no
segment
there's no segment
there's no Trump segment today
we didn't
even do Trump we just get came
up no no
no I did a hole now John this
is what it
is is it a whole piece on the
trial the
Trump camp which is about
Facebook and
the media and the inner
workings of
advertising people here Trump
and they
hear it's a Trump segment that
I can't
help that this is very
interesting
information
and Trump's name is mentioned
because
that part of it okay well let
me skip
the rest of that complaint Adam
puts a
lot of value I'll read this
because this
is a complimentary not real and
it puts
a lot of effort into making the
audio
quality of the podcast
impeccable
I think that's all I need yeah
but read
on
well they impeccable okay well
to end he
wants the listeners to have a
high
experience it's like a waiter
in a tux
and white gloves bringing out a
silver
platter however when the main
dish that
the waiter brings out is the
kraft mac
and cheese that represents the
historic
Trump news okay I'm not reading
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appreciate your note but I do
not agree
with your analogies and well
this is an
example of these locals this
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when people we need to go visit
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[Music]
yeah let's talk Yellowjackets
for a
moment well I do have an
introductory
clip very good is it called the
Yellowjackets background er
where's that
no I'm just guessing maybe it's
French
gas tax resolution yes French
president
Emmanuel macron has scrapped a
proposed
fuel tax hike that sparked the
most
violent protests in decades
his government initially had
said that
it would suspend the tax for
six months
tonight macarons prime minister
said
that the tax is now a dead
letter and he
called for dialogue with the
protest
groups are you sure it is it now
completely canceled I thought
it was
still suspended
no he superseded that huh yeah
it's done
hmm
well what was great to watch is
and only
on YouTube and other online
video is
ambulance drivers joining in
the protest
riot police joining in the
protest
firemen joining in the protest
something
we can't account we used to be
able to
accomplish stuff like this in
the United
States but long gone we can
we'll never
see anything like this the
French or the
little is the last country the
last one
can still accomplish this and
I'm
surprised that they're in the
EU and the
truth of the most scandalous
thing of
course with France is that that
the EU
has asked France to give up
their seat
on the Security Council and
give it to
the EU yes as discussed on the
last
episode which is discussed in
the last
show which is illegal by the
way well so
what is what is fascinating
about this
story and other and some other
mainstream outlets or note
actually I
think Tucker Carlson did a
piece on it
is that the true nature and
even Scott
Adams was surprised I guess he
finally
figured out through one story
that he
got in the m5m that this is
about the
global warming climate change
tax that
has been added and it's of
course just
the start of how people will pay
according to the Paris Accord
none of
the background of the story is
really
discussed much in any m5m not
around the
world either there's a
possibility that
there would might've even been
a D
notice in the UK or some
partial D
notice about not making a big
deal out
of it and when I got that note
over the
weekend
Paris was burning and I looked
at the
homepage of the BBC and Sky
News and
nothing was on the homepage it
was Neos
yeah under the Europe tab you
had to go
in and it still did not really
mention
what it's about Saturday
there's a big
protest planned at macrons
house that
would be his palace I don't
know but how
this changes with him revoking
the
attacks or reversing the tax
obviously
there's something else at play
here the
Yellow Jackets is no
coincidence I mean
this is a choleric revolution
almost by
definition which means there
could be
other people behind it I think
there's a
lot of actors you know they're
called
extreme left extreme right a
lot of
troublemakers show up for this
stuff
troublemakers but it's also
spreading
it's in the Netherlands it's in
Belgium
it's spreading to other
countries and
that of course is what needs to
be
slowed down and stopped and
that's why
people can't really know the
the actual
issue
I caught a clip but it was on
NPR and
they brought in a BBC
journalist this
was before the cancellation of
the tax
there was still a suspension
but listen
to how they can they cannot
bring
themselves to say it's about
the climate
change tax and the Paris Accord
money
that has to be raised over the
backs of
all citizens but of course
people get
hurt the most when it's a fuel
tax it's
very hard for them to admit
that it's
it's it's really funny to
listen to and
some other things in here that
I think
are interesting
well the Prime Minister and
announcing
the suspension of the taxes said
people's anger must be heard
there has
to be proper debate but McCrone
had
implemented the taxes mainly
the tax on
diesel fuel that's used
primarily to
offset environmental concerns
environmental concerns John
it's not
climates environmental concerns
do
better I mean what's the public
sentiment we see the pictures
of the
cars on fire and the you know
these
violent protests but what's the
sense of
the French people well when
it's gone
along beyond I love this the
French
people are the ones on the
street young
lady they're the ones burning
why are you asking what what
are the
French people think does she
mean the
French elites what what does
she mean by
that this is very strange
question yes
but what's the sense of the
French
people
well that initial cause which
was as you
say there's the the fuel tax
tax hike
which is coming it's one of a
series of
increases which go back many
years
before macron a carbon tax
which was to
be brought in over many years
he saw
accelerated that process and
it's all
part of greening the economy and
greening the economy on which
most
people including most yellow
you know
yellow vests would it would
agree the
green yeah if you put it that
way the
greening of the economy but if
you say
hey that's the climate change
tax if
there's a gotcha
I am the issue for the people
who are
protesting which is their
standard of
living the sense that this is a
policy
being dictated to them from
there kind
of comfortably off town
dwellers who
don't really need cars and so
they feel
that they're having to pay for
the
conscience to good conscience
of the
metropolitan elite and yes you
know it's
part this this a whole
dialectic between
town and and province is very
much part
of modern-day politics now it's
just
about cars apparently it's just
people
who don't have cars and people
who do
need cars
oh yeah sure and Europe and
rely on
America to you know these are
people
saying hang on a sec you know
you may
have your conscience but we've
got our
livelihoods and that's what
lies behind
it that's for them as for the
violence
well I mean you know there's
there's no
doubt that there are some very
angry
people among the among the
yellow vests
isn't a question that they were
reading
a professional Revolutionary
people are
far left and far right who who
have
latched on to it and were
they're doing
most of the burning on on on
Saturday
plus I have to say because I
saw myself
people kids from the ball yeah
you know
the ones who write it and for
coming in
and just taking advantage of
the whole
thing look we got just a few
seconds
here this is a suspension not a
cancellation so what's the
sense of what
might happen
well yeah indeed and there are
people's
already saying this is not
enough my
feeling is that we'll probably
ever
the protests on Saturday by
hardliners
but the aim of this concession
is to
speak to the majority of the to
the
country as a whole to get them
to say oh
yes look the government has
reacted it
is listening and that should the
governor hopes and I think it
may be
right you know remove some of
the
momentum behind that the protest
movement as a whole which means
we might
have it might have peaked and
we might
be on a kind of de-escalation
unbelievably poor reporting
when the
true story is well what happens
when the
next thing takes place where
money has
to be raised because that is
what the
Paris Accord is it is grab it's
yeah
it's your money that your
government has
signed on to spend so they say
oh well
you know we'll just simmer it
all down a
little bit the money you've
committed to
it you've got to pay for it so
it has to
come from somewhere and the
protests
will come back and it's gonna
be much
worse and they chopped heads
off in
France today get carried away
in France
there's no doubt about that
by the way that this discussion
is shown
up at the table and I never
thought
about this but nobody you
mentioned it
on the show I didn't know about
it and
nobody that I've ever talked to
knows
about it and it seems like an
element of
the show there's two aspects
would that
make make it interesting and
we're
talking about the yellow vests
themselves every car is
equipped with
the yellow vest in the trunk
and a
breathalyzer in the breath yes
by law
French have to have a
breathalyzer or
the Muslim influence on friend
Frances
anti-drinking campaign in the
wine
country which is very I don't
know the
way to the wine growers I know
that is
law okay and so what what came
up I was
thinking about it the fact that
nobody
knows that everyone's got these
yellow
vessel didn't have to invest
anything is
just take it out of the trunk
and wear
it right but I was thinking
further
about it I said you know that's
not a
bad idea we should that might
not be a
bad law to have here or maybe
even the
car companies can voluntarily
cuz I a
lot of people do get hit on the
side of
the road when they're working
on their
car they have a mule some
mishap if they
had those yellow vests on it
might save
lives you're saying make it
mandatory
all right Jhansi or Castillo
Cortez
Democratic Socialist you stop
with this
here we go stacks up me sent me
something it was hilarious is
it on
Tremont a little short one
it is the catch of the day this
is
something that is inherently
completely
false it comes from a respected
news
outlets NBC News and we ran the
clip bed
check false see if you can find
what is
wrong in this catch of the day
disappearance images of joyful
36
year-old Karla Stefani AK
celebrating
her birthday on vacation in
Costa Rica
her family hopeful shall be
found alive
I want to tell her that I love
her that
I want her to come back home
with us
como Carla Stefan ich but today
Island
authorities made grim
discoveries body
that appears to be a woman
found in a
wooded area close to the Airbnb
apartment what was entirely and
stupidly
wrong that took place in Costa
Rica well
Costa Rica yes but what did she
say
about Costa Rica that is just a
head
shaker from NBC News Oh again
okay I
won't play the whole thing just
six-year-old Carla Stefani ACK
celebrating her birthday on
vacation in
Costa Rica her family hopeful
she'll be
found alive I want to tell her
that I
love her that I wanted her to
come back
home with us como Carla Stefan
eek but
today island authorities made
grim
discovery Costa Rica not an
island and
DC girl in the in the troll
room was the
first one to get it right I
mean that's
that's that makes us look
stupid here
Island authority island
authorities good
reporting on the ground
reporting on the
island those people get paid
millions of
dollars off day yeah
not for us jean-claude not for
us Wow
yeah well I have a short one
since you
had mentioned the you call me
out as a
courtesy of Cortez or test
whatever
Democratic socialists so the
Socialists
the thing that's going on now
is because
of the education system in this
country
is resulted in this particular
this is
one of the many exception is
part of a
bigger report that I started
looking at
and it's actually quite
fascinating but
play Millennials prefer
communism okay
American Millennials say they
would
rather live in a socialist or
communist
country than a capitalist
democracy
that's according to a new
survey from
the victims of communism
Memorial
Foundation the data shows that
one in
two Millennials would rather
live in a
socialist country than a
capitalist one
here are some other interesting
numbers
from the survey 22% of those
polled have
a favorable view of Karl Marx
the father
of communism and the author of
the
communist manifesto and a lot
of them
see Joseph Stalin and Kim
jong-un as
heroes the executive director
of the
organization Marian Smith said
quote
Millennials are increasingly
turning
away from capitalism and towards
socialism and even communism as
a viable
alternative it's worth noting
that in
the survey 71% failed to
correctly
define communism Smith says he
sees the
numbers as a troubling turn and
shows
the failure of the country's
education
system no kidding hello
this operation by the way this
victims
of communism or whatever it's
called I
looked it up and it turns out
to be
actually it's actually a
congressional
no way funded operation she's
so it's
not some fly-by-night you know
group and
I looked at their report
they've been
doing this report for a number
of years
I looked at 2016 2017 2018
report which
just came out shows it goes
from like 35
or 40 percent of the
Millennials want to
live under socialist rule or
communism
and then it would goes up to
about 49
percent now it's at about 53
percent it
keeps going up well they just
want free
stuff yeah I think that's a lot
of it
and one of our producers sent
me a very
long note about student loans
and that
2035 is going to be a very
impaired
phrasing his note 2035 is going
and he
has standing in the in the area
you'll
be very interesting because the
way the
student loans work you have
your you
know your 20 years and you pay
based on
some formula which is changing
all the
time is about to change again
so you
know you might pay it's based
upon your
income etc and so you might be
paying
$200 a month for 20 years or
you could
be 80 but that does get
adjusted here's
the great thing if you can just
squeak
by and you know just really not
make
enough to have to pay anything
after 20 years whatever is left
over of
your amount what you have paid
which
varies from year to year based
on you
know your your position in life
here
with how much money you're
making the
rest is just erased
and right now the converse the
conversation amongst the
finance years
is will this be added to your
income in
the year that all of that is
raised and
most likely not but that could
be quite
a quite a moment likely yes it
could be
quite a moment of like a
trillion
dollars just you know
evaporating from
the books as something that has
been
wiped away
so keep it overnight hacks for
that well
you know a lot of these a lot
of times
would benefit does be it does
get added
to your income tax but there's
been
examples I can't think of one
now of
course lots of examples
are there lots of examples well
yeah if
somebody gives you a Fed
airplane if you
win into that and at the slots
about
seven years ago we started
really
looking at pipelines and in
fact there's
a pipeline episode that is kind
of
interesting and there's been a
lot of
development since then I think
the most
recent one after Germany got
its second
pipeline from Russia is the
Turkish
stream which is Russia going
through
Turkey and Turkey of course
wanting to
move that on into Europe which
is the
largest customer of natural gas
and we
also talked about the Noble
Energy who
had on their Board of Advisors
at the
time certainly Bill Clinton a
lot of the
lot of the big names I think
you know
probably : Powell
all these mofos were all all in
on this
deal and they had discovered the
Leviathan field off the coast
of well
it's kind of complicated is off
the
coast of Israel is off the
coast of
Lebanon is it really a little
bit Cyprus
you know who who claims it well
noble
energy claimed it and they're
saying
it's it belongs to Israel and
then came
this report Israel has agreed
with
Greece Italy and Cyprus to
construct the
world's longest underwater
pipeline
which will carry natural gas
from the
eastern Mediterranean Sea to
Europe the
deep sea East Med pipeline
project will
begin 170 kilometers off the
southern
coast of Cyprus and stretched
2,200
kilometers to Italy it will be
able to
transport up to 20 billion
cubic meters
of fuel each year Jerusalem
intends to
use several vast underwater
natural gas
reserves discovered off the
country's
coastline to help Europe meet
ever-increasing demands for the
precious
resource Jerusalem is also
hoping that
the export will have a positive
environmental impact and that
it can
improve Israel's diplomatic
standing
abroad yeah I'm sure everyone's
gonna
love you for trying to cut out
Russia
not gonna take too favorably to
this the
whole thing there's gonna be a
glut of
natural gas I don't know how
this you
know they did I like the way
the way
they've pitched
natural gas as the solution to
climate
change mecca's which is
bullcrap yeah I
mean it produces quite a bit of
carbon
dioxide but beside the point
but they're
gonna be they're gonna be
inundated with
natural gas and Europe it's got
a it's
got to collapse the prices
which is
what's gonna have to happen and
it's
going to cause a worldwide
depression
it's not gonna be good it's way
too much
too much pumping like crazy
thinking
this year too you know we got
to get it
there while we can do you think
this
this latest round of tete-a-tete
mano-a-mano back and forth
between Putin
and Trump the US and Russia
with the you
know the arms treaty and I'll
give you
60 days here and there doesn't
this feel
like I mean to me I would if
you said to
me Trump and Putin made an
agreement hey
let's just rack that shit up
let's get
everyone all freaked out again
we did it
really well in the past with
the with
the Cuban Missile Crisis and
let's get
everyone a little bit you know
on edge
let's bring back the terms like
mad
mutually assured destruction to
drive
our economies with more war
stuff Trump
clearly loves building war
stuff that's
where our that's what our
economy drives
on all our money goes into that
it seems
to me like this would be a kind
of ploy
and it's obvious that the
military's
taken over the White House and
Trump
loves the military here you're
a high
school kid raised in a military
school
because his dad's the one which
was
always a threat my parents had
cuz I
guess it was a big deal back in
the day
where you would you know where
military
schools were all over the place
and it
was a it was a common threat
you gave
tickets if you don't clean up
your room
I'm sending you to military
school
that's right I mean you know
what the
troublemakers the school
usually had to
do they had to be on the drill
team
on weekends because that would
teach you
some discipline get on the
drill team
yeah so you shape up yes Trump
I guess
was such an incorrigible kid
that they
did send him to military school
yeah and he liked it yeah so
I've never
joined the military because he
didn't
like it that much but yeah
everything
right here now just everything
I hear is
all the students are just
ratcheting the
shots and I don't know it just
seems
phony-baloney to me yeah it
does seem
phony baloney I I agree it seems
something fake about it but let
me let
me be stay in Europe okay
because people
love this European coverage so
there was
an anomaly to me as the
migration crisis
continued at a fast pace and
that is the
only pre-migration I remember
they the
the bitchin and moanin that
went on in
Denmark you know Denmark hooked
up
hooked themselves up to Sweden
through
this very long bridge yes which
I I went
over it on the train goes on it
and also
cars and it's extreme I don't
know how
long it is but it's long and it
goes all
the way to southern Sweden to
the Malmo
area which is largely at
nowadays
largely a Muslim area in Sweden
word is
the south of Sweden is where
all the
Muslims 1608 feet
it's only a thousand feet if
I'm sweet
it's more than a thousand but
hands that
can't be the right bridge is
that the
Aurora's own bridge yeah the
auras own
bridge a thousand feet I can
throw a
football farther than that
no keep going on me the story
I'll check
my facts oh I'm sorry
kilometers what am I talking
about okay
there we go some more like it
anyway the
so but but all during the pre
migration
era there was this pitch and in
morning
by that all the Danish they're
not
playing fair because they have
they've
been kicking Muslim soccer
course it was
the scandal with the cartoon
which came
out of Denmark you know showing
the big
depicting Muhammad which is not
Lea no
no must matter it's not even
legal in
the EU anymore
yeah no well there you know
it's illegal
they outlawed it it's
ridiculous but you
just go along with it special
and it
made no sense to me that
Denmark was
gonna go along with because
they were
taking a bunch of migrants by
the ton
and I'm thinking how does that
work with
it with their history of really
being
very xenophobic the happiest
people in
the world yes also folk they
also take
the most antidepressants in the
world
true
well they base happy yes so I'm
so I'm
what all of a sudden this story
which
was buried on CBS they would be
it was
if you to even find it you have
to find
out CBS and it's done like a
package but
they never pushed it into the
mainstream
the regular nightly news and it
explains
a lot as Marge and Mark clip
says it
will send all of its unwelcome
migrants
to a remote island by 2021 an
asylum
seekers who will be sent there
either
have criminal records which
prohibit
them to work in Denmark or
people who
cannot be returned to their home
countries the island currently
holds
labs and stables and the
Crematory of a
research center for contagious
animal
diseases the foreigners will be
required
to report to the island centre
at least
once a day or face imprisonment
ferry
departures from the island will
be
limited and Denmark's prime
minister
said the goal is to no longer
enter
great migrants but host them
until they
can return to their
countries as many as 100 people
will be
relocated to the island oh yeah
yeah
lindholm island moving people
do it i
think this is the classic
example hey
yeah we're doing him a favor
meanwhile the anti migration
party Vox
at a big win in Spain as the
populist
wave continues it's not
stopping you
know it's that the politicians
that we
have it here it's everywhere
but in the
EU for sure they don't really
have not
comprehended that it works
differently
they haven't quite figured it
out that
the internet ruined their you
know the
trifecta of
politicians media and should we
say the
justice system I mean this they
just
haven't figured it out that
media it's
it's change it's it's people
understand
now what you're doing we see
behind the
curtain the whole time and they
just
pretend like you didn't see it
like
breaks it you know the vote is
coming
you know what that do-over is
coming if
not a general election I mean
this was
not just once which was
unprecedented
never before has there been a a
vote of
holding the government in or the
executive in contempt of
Parliament but
there were two two in a row I
mean my
friends in the UK there's like
holy crap
they date on under that there a
lot of
people are very confused and
worried
about the situation bet they
are but
this is really a breakdown and
in the
whole system and they don't
know how
Trump is I have to say he's the
only one
that figured out one part of it
and
that's yell loud on Twitter
that's
that's one that's what he's
been able to
do with the internet besides
all that
face bag stuff that's kind of
traditional marketing they
still think
that they can do their little
thing
behind closed doors of mark the
Marrakesh Agreement the Dutch
are not in
agreement with it did do not
want the
compact on migration signed by
their
government the government just
said yeah
we're going to sign it anyway
I know this is Larry we're just
gonna
sign it anyway they do not care
so you
know what's happening in France
it will
never be as elegant but we're
gonna see
all kinds of crap coming down
in Europe
I've lived there I know that
the people
are fed up with all kinds of
stuff
anyway we talked about our
military
here's an update
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that's right we are still
trying to get
troops into the Democratic
Republic of
Congo because they've got Ebola
there
it's scary but it's not really
moving
fast enough we can't get enough
traction
with the story we need to get
in there
because you know there's some
valuable
minerals there's things that we
really
want and even turns out there's
oils get
shipped out we used to be able
to get
the troops in with Ebola
screw it bring out the backup
script the
US Embassy in the Democratic
Republic of
the Congo was closed after us
operatives
obtained intelligence that an
Isis
affiliate may be planning an
attack on
American assets in the region
CNN
reported Monday US officials
told the
network that while Isis does
not operate
in the DRC the terror group
might enter
the country for the attack the
State
Department confirmed to the
hill that
the embassy is reopened Tuesday
after
being closed since November
24th because
of credible and specific
information of
a possible terrorist threat
against US
government facilities in
Kinshasa I mean
seriously
is this what you're trying to
do I mean
Isis they don't even operate in
there
yeah you never know he can't be
you'd
better be safe than sorry yeah
they want
the military in there so bad
they can
almost taste it
well they're gonna get their
desires
eventually having uh you know
Faraj quit
tu Kip yep he says he starts as
he's
starting a new party and I read
that
somewhere
no he that's what everyone
wants them to
do huh he says he might do
something I
have the kiss quitting clip I
would
prefer to put it into show
notes if you
can put it in sure sure account
it has 3
minutes and 57 7 that's kind of
long 57
seconds for something that
should have
taken 57 seconds yeah it's a
little long
just long yeah I do back to the
states
or actually no there's one less
EU story
which is that kind of
fascinated me
because they ran it at all it's
something nobody really I guess
some
people care but about the
mobsters being
rounded up and there's a huge
ring of
mobsters that are running the
amount of
you
you play the mobsters yeah
we're that
were they from are they from
Yugoslavia
no they're from Italy I think
oh oh yes
yeah the Dutch had something to
do with
this I think yes oops European
police
arrested at least 84 suspected
mobsters
today and raised across Italy
Germany
Belgium and the Netherlands they
targeted an Italian mafia
syndicate
known as Indra Guetta and they
accused
and accused it is accused of
cocaine
trafficking money laundering
and other
crimes at The Hague Italy's top
Panti
mafia prosecutor said the raids
are just
a small step in taking down the
group's
vast network let me go and get
that
ghost
I wanted to underline once
again how
enduring Guetta has cells that
operate
cooperating amongst each other
and in a
network that covers the whole
of Europe
if we think we have dismantled
engine
Guetta with this operation we
are
probably actually certain that
we are
wrong you know the Netherlands
I shame
for Belgium the great countries
they
don't make a problem out of
most things
it's a you know you can come in
you can
go anywhere you want you can
move drugs
the Netherlands is the drug
capital of
Europe everything moves through
there
but that's where the
manufacturer is and
they're fantastic it's a great
country
to do business in and once in a
while
you take a couple guys out
I have an update on my friend
rattle
bond who wanted to have his age
changed
legally he went to court yes
yeah he
went to court and you will hear
the
courts person speaking about
the verdict
and you've also hear a meal
later
talking about it so you know
wherever at
with this a court in the
Netherlands has
rejected a 69 year old man's
request to
legally change his age it
argued that
doing so would set a dangerous
precedent
the main reason is that age
requirements
in the law give rights and
duties to
people for instance the right
to vote or
the duty to attend school and
if those
requirements wouldn't count if
you could
change your date of birth that
will
become meaningless a meal
raffle ban the
man who wants to change his age
describes himself as a young
god we as
human beings we have to change
and so
the state and the government
has to
change also they have to adopt
and you
realize that the people
nowadays have a
free will and they have more
consciousness about all those
things
would happen and that's the
meaning of
me Court has given us many many
reasons
so we can attack now at the
same time so
we have lost the battle we are
going to
win the war never give up if
there is a
way if there is no way I will
create my
own way if there is no way I
create my
own way and we do it anyway yes
I'm
gonna call him and ask him how
he's
gonna win the war he'll tell me
he'll
tell me the strategy I just
think of the
pronoun use the pronoun God
yeah and you
know what he is pretty
relentless with
stuff like this unless
something better
comes along that puts him in
the public
eye but I think he's really
latched he's
a little older now I think he's
latched
on to it and I think it'll
he'll stick
it out and if he says he has
many
opportunities now to go back at
the
government he has won so I'll
give him a
call and I'll find out because
lord
knows John you and I could
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Australia
today well you have the
encryption old
there's some controversy going
on and I
want to kind of
account for it a little bit I
have a
commercial that was done before
Paul
Hogan became famous as an actor
he was a
spokesperson for the Australian
tourist
bureau really and in the 70s or
80s this
commercial ran with Paul Hogan
is a
60-second commercial I want to
point out
an interesting anomaly within
this
commercial America holiday a
fair dinkum
all the time in the land of
Wanda
there's a few things I gotta
warn you
about firstly you're gonna get
wet
because the place is surrounded
by water
oh and you're gonna have to
learn to say
good night because every day's
a good
day in Australia oh good I love
of
course you have to get used to
some of
the local customs before you
rush out
the book Taurasi holiday get
the aussie
holiday book from your airline
or travel
agent come on come on say good
night
I'll sleep an extra shrimp on
the barbie
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tourist bureau and he said
shrimp they
should well they should kill
him now the
thing was it was a gag because
he's he
holds up a prawn that's the
size of a
small Maine lobster and then he
says
shrimp they're just a shrimp
just to
make sure that you know they can
ridicule us because the prawns
even our
prawns are smaller than the
thing he had
but it was still a shrimp
meanwhile we
get the best of Australia just
look at
what we got man we got the yeah
we got
Chris Wilson I have so many
good things
we got our Dame on TV Sarah
Sarah Tara
yeah it was Sarah we got all we
got the
best of Australia on this show
they I
have a shrimp I so see if it's
appropriate for the end of the
show hmm
okay I have an ISO as well let
me see
your shrimp I said I'll sleep
an extra
shrimp on the Bobby for you
it's a
contender I think what's really
going on
in Australia though is this new
encryption law which
uh I think it's past now and
atencion
atencion down under your app
store is
about to empty out because what
they're
saying is partly I'll read from
this is
an official source in New York
Times
Australian Parliament passed a
contentious encryption bill on
Thursday
to require technology companies
to
provide law enforcement and
security
agents with access to encrypted
communications specifically
apps like
whatsapp and signal yeah good
luck with
that that's not gonna happen
they're not
gonna give you a key in
Australia five
eyes member telegram kik that's
what
they all want so they pass this
law that
is completely unenforceable
well no it's enforceable by
banning
those apps in Australia and I'm
sure
Apple will comply because as
you know
they are wholly
huh yeah I know
the idiots I mean not the
Australians
but this is just nuts
okay I got a clip
it's really totally gratuitous
just for
the iso i thought was kind of
funny is
that this is donna Brazile with
george
stephanopoulos the populist and
this is
all about collusion is that it
seems
like everyone around president
Trump on
anything having to do with
Russia we're
not telling the truth
absolutely Michael Coren once
boasted
that he would take a bullet for
Donald
Trump but instead this week he
delivered
a smoking gun the fact that oh
yeah
that's the smoking gun because
once
again he said that what I
provided
before was consistent with what
the
president wanted me to say
because I
wanted to stay loyal to the
president
smoking gun
I think smoking gun oh yeah
that's the
smoking gun they produced I so
no less
good well talking about I think
a
funnier line is Lindsey Graham
and his
MBS and he's got a he's got a I
think it
topper the smoking gun you know
what I
found well I'll play your clip
I found
his his I have quite a bit of
what he
what he said and I am very
little okay
we'll play your very little
first you
will look at your little one
then we'll
look at my big one I think he's
complicit in the murder of mr.
khashoggi
to the highest level possible
I think the behavior before the
khashoggi murder was beyond
disturbing
and I cannot see him being a
reliable
partner to the United States
secretary
Pompeo and mattes are following
the lead
of the president there's not a
smoking
gun there's a smoking saw
[Laughter]
yeah very good do you have a
smoking saw
I saw
well I think that nails at hold
on
smoking saw nailed it there's
not a
smoking gun there's a smoking
saw it's
beautiful you got it let's
listen to uh
he spoke for about five minutes
and I
think there are some other
interesting
things in here which is not
really
covered very well you know of
course not
why would we but I he's going
against
Trump in a massive way Saudi
Arabia in
the S or two different entities
can you
hear this it seems like heavy
on one
channel you okay you're hearing
it
that's good it's fine if the
Saudi
government is going to be in
the hands
of this man for a long time to
come I
find it very difficult to be
able to do
business because I think he's
crazy I
think he is dangerous and he
has put the
relationship at risk
no one has fought for this
relationship
harder than myself and Senator
McCain
Senator McCain and I went on
the floor
stopping lawsuits against the
kingdom
for complicity in 9/11 because
we did
not believe the royal family was
involved in the planning and
execution
the 9/11 attacks what
look what he says Saudi Arabia
was not
involved in the 9/11 attacks
yeah in
contradiction to the report 28
pages
that say they were yeah thanks
Lindsay
ed to Lindsay if John McCain
were alive
I believe he would be standing
with me
today leading the charge to
come down
like a ton of bricks on the
Crown Prince
from what he's done to the
relationship
the way he's destabilized the
region so
what will I do I will try to
work my
colleagues from both sides of
the aisle
to send a statement before the
end of
this Congress that in fact the
crown
prince was complicit in the
murder of
mr. Khashoggi that during his
tenure as
Crown Prince he's put the
region in
chaos and has undercut the
relationship
and I cannot support arms sales
to Saudi
Arabia as long as he's got to
be in
charge of this country now it
sounds
another I'm listening to it
again sounds
like okay I'm going against
everything
Trump wants with the arm sales
but I
think what he's really done is
he's
positioned the removal of MBS
for the arms sales to continue
and he's
gonna may he's gonna make a big
stink
about it so maybe he's in
cahoots with
Trump I believe it could be in
cahoots
with Trump but I would think I
think
there's a there's a schism
within the
royal family because there's
some other
guys a couple other guys that
want this
job that MBS has we see as a
too young
he's kind of like a like
alexandria
cortez hero your hero my hero
and so I
think there's a schism and I
think he
and I believe this I bet you
the CIA is
involved in this and lindsey's
you know
being briefed sure and there's
something
going on to get rid of this guy
and I
wouldn't be surprised if he's
not
assassinated NBS would make
total sense
they tried to assassinate him
already we
know this that that's what
happened in
Vegas I mean that's our
theories and
it's a secondary Theory theory
but it's
not bad because there were
gunshots
reported everywhere
I'm just waiting and you're
gonna see an
assassination well at an
attempt for
sure but that could be just
staged as
such I think they may actually
get to
him yeah
Oh that'll be fun well it'll be
yes it
will be fun it'll be great
I found an older report
apparently the
school lunch we've been
discussing it's
one of the themes new themes
for the
show for the twin yeah got it
got a lot
of response the people are you
know
parents in the lunchroom at
their kids
and grammar schools just
they're just
disgusting
but this apparently goes back
2015
here's a report from 2015 where
this was
a problem and they spotted it
early and
put a stop to it this is the
older
report on school lunch
visitation
parents are questioning new
security
measures at a Beaverton
Elementary
School just days after a deadly
shooting
at a school in California
parents have
now been banned from joining
their
children for lunch in the
cafeteria
Christine Penta wanna smoke
with parents
and administrators and joins us
now live
at Christine this is a Jacob
Whismur
elementary and Kris it's
apparently a
change they've been looking
into making
for some time now a Beaverton
School
District spokesperson says
about 750
kids go to the school but there
were a
lot of parents coming in to eat
lunch
with their kids and it was just
too much
to keep an eye on everyone
every week
Chen Wang volunteers here at
Jacob
Whismur Elementary helping to
teach math
I have a two kids my daughter's
fourth
grade my son second grade she
like many
other parents received this
letter from
the school principal asking
parents to
drop off lunches for their kids
here in
the office rather than bringing
it
straight to the cafeteria and
eating
lunch with them they think
about kids
safety so I think it's really
good the
letter to parents references the
shooting in San Bernardino this
week
where a man walked into a
school shot
his estranged wife in a
classroom than
himself three people including
a student
died obviously anytime we hear
of a
tragic incident such as in San
Bernardino I think all of our
schools
look at practices and what's
happened
Maureen wheeler with the
Beaverton
School District says school
officials
have been thinking about making
the
lunch time change for a while
now we
have so many kids that we're
supervising
and having parents on top of
that just
became a real challenge for the
school
okay so if I understand there's
an
element of parents just being
so freaked
out about their kids getting
killed at
school that they just have to go
like that's gonna help well but
you know
you and I underestimate
possibly because
our kids are out of school the
feeling
that cuz you know the the media
that
makes it very and much you know
it gets
a lot of views but but kids are
also
very very very worried there's
a lot of
kids who were just stressed out
about
getting killed at school I'm
sure there
are but I'm also wondering what
the
element of you would do an
element
that's not brought into this
and would
have would be brought into this
of who I
was if this was going on when I
was a
kid if your parents come to
protect you
or they're hovering over you
during
lunch or something I think it
would
invite bullying
yeah I don't think it does I I
think it
just does mm-hmm I'm not
hearing that I
got a lot of feedback from
people about
when I hear some bit Bell that
I won't
hear through some kids yeah me
too you
know we're hearing from parents
the
parents are you're right on it
you're
right you're right now I have
no no no
before you have I got to stay
in school
for a moment I have a PSA
public service
announcement that airs in
Raleigh North
Carolina and this is an after I
believe
it's an after-school activity
that the
school is sponsoring but it's
just very
interesting to listen to
friendship support and changing
the
world all youth 12 and younger
are
welcome to join as they create
a space
where everyone can be
themselves and
take on youth-led projects and
activities together more
information and
meeting dates are at
upside-down 180 or
this announcement is a public
service of
88.1 WK NC
hey wait can you play the end
again
yeah the URL and what do you
are it's
upside-down something something
something
I think it's upside down 180
home upside
down 180 go straight down 180 I
already
looked at the website no I have
not
let's look at it yeah that's a
good idea
right I was just kind of like
wow is
there adult supervision 12 and
under
I mean what's
and there's it quite a list of
things
you if you feel me to sit while
you're
looking that up let me see what
this
list is it's gender gender
queer gender
varied which is 12 and under
yes what
kind of what kind of a
transgender do
you have at the age of seven
hahaha
hello where have you been
and this is you know parents
are you
know at the minute a boy as an
example
shows like I want to play with
the doll
boom dress is on you know it's
pink
here's your new room your new
room color
is this a little bit look the
people are
going a little overboard on
some of this
stuff add dolls and I was a kid
dude you
live in San Francisco look
around
it wasn't it's where it's
happening
that's where you're you're like
ground
zero of this stuff
so it changed the world
it's about us it doesn't tell
us any
names I want names of people
I'll look
into this li you asked or you
had a clip
I think on the last show about
Mick with
the Millennial uh the millennial
publishing group Mick em I see
Mick yeah
Mike Mike is it Mike okay yeah
they
pronounce it Mike okay and you
had just
a clip and that they laid off
the
editorial staff
uh and I found a bike and also
and send
it to me or if I just came
across a
business insider apparently
they let the
entire editorial editorial
staff go
ahead of the sale to the bus'll
digital
group to break a planned Union
Oh how about that for the
Millennials
who RDS I don't know of any
Millennials
that think in terms of
unionizing but
don't they think in terms of
socialism
that's what we had a clip of
that oh
you've got me cornered
good try Dvorak wrong again
well most
actually most socialist systems
don't
actually they made unions
illegal but
yeah but you know what I mean
it's like
it sounds like that's this
should be
outraged by this later they
were I'm
doubting this this I'm doubting
this
story I think just some
pro-union
propaganda oh that could also
be now
just since you're the expert on
the
great button what do you what
is your
take on the I guess it's merger
of
equals they're calling it of
Glenn
Beck's blaze and Mark Levin
creative
considered was that the the
a creative conservative media
that's the
mob he's got some financed
operation
that is skiving giving him some
TV
exposure on the internet and he
does
this he does a subscription
thing but
what's going on why are these
two guys
merging I mean is that because
that's
not they can't move
specifically those
two guys can even get along
there's that
I think anybody who's listens
to both of
them would know what I'm
talking about
is Glenn Beck still on the
radio yeah I
think so he still got his radio
program
man he's not you know he's not
in the
tie I don't think he's in the
tie don't
hear him around here I don't
know where
he is then some obscure
timeframe mmm
you're not gonna hear me and he
also
syndicated so you don't know he
may not
be playing in Texas at all hmm
WABC and
for the first time in his
career he
won't even be in New York right
and so
there's just a bunch of stuff
going on I
think they know what to see the
writing
on the wall they're gonna have
to
consolidate and DeBlase from
what I've
heard has always been kind of
sketchy
money-loser yeah I think that
yeah
that's what I've always
understood is
that you know okay but he makes
the
money on his radio show maybe
he has to
add a little bit it's kind of
like Leo
you know makes money on their
unjust
syndicated satellite thing and
the rest
is window dressing at this
point it
wasn't like that but and I just
yeah I
seem Levin he's in his radio
show I'm
sure he's making tons of money
millions
and millions he's got the
support of
that means it that's the model
you get
the AM radio talk show you get
a show on
Fox that's what that's the
model right
there have you seen that girl
Lisa by
the way on Fox know who was
doing the
political stuff she says she's
from some
he's from a think-tank or
something I
just wanted to point him what
from some
think-tank she's a rising star
man she's
got it
you watch Lisa on Fox yeah let
me see
what her name is Lisa booth
Lisa booth
she doesn't wish comes right up
on the
side down the side bar right
there on
the Google's yeah she's a
beauty now
she's not that she's weird her
eyes are
very alien she's got a lot of
gummy
probably yeah she's probably a
lizard
she could be
you gotta know she's more like
looking
at her she's like looks
Icelandic
actually with those eyeballs
the smaller
is great no she looks like a
reason yeah
maybe for some reason I
slanders have
been their eyeballs have been
moving out
further and further because of
the
inbreeding but I just got a lot
of gum
honored and by the way we're
this is
we're talking as television
producers
yes we're the producers now
we're not
being we're not just being
catty no no
Eric off man tell me about some
one on
father telling this woman I
scare this
woman and she did the the
midterm
reports for Tucker and and
she's like
she's very she's a very odd
head very
strange but she's got it and
they've now
they put her in substitute
she's gonna
have her own show she's I think
she will
be the megyn kelly replacement
if they
wanted you know a smart running
shannon
bream was that's not gonna do
it this
good this is the girl well
maybe this is
her Lucy oh yeah yeah I'm
calling she's
television producer baby
talking about
she's good mmm-hmm okay well
keeping I
don't really watch Fox that
much anymore
that's all i watch on fine have
been
good I have been following it
just a
long clip I think it's a good
clip for
the end of the show okay cuz
it's kind
of like oh my god kind of a
clip mm-hmm
so less more stuff has come out
about
Les Moonves yes is this the
good stuff
you had a hooker on staff
Democracy Now
and it's I so juicy I'm
thinking wow
this is great
I'll get this clip and then
I'll put it
up against CBS's clip cuz I
know they're
gonna say something but it's
gonna be
pretty lame cuz otherwise CBS
is gonna
make themselves look bad by
having this
guy for so long no I was
completely
wrong I just dropped a
Democracy Now
clip the CBS clip which is
three minutes
and 15 seconds really goes into
it which
makes me wonder if Moonves was
not
really well
like by the news division
because I mean
this is a little overboard to
his
presentation but it was very
enjoyable
an explosive new report put
together by
lawyers for CBS accuses the
company's
former CEO les Moonves of
misleading
investigators and destroying
evidence in
a sexual misconduct
investigation
Moonves was forced out in
September this
report is expected to be
presented to
the CBS board next week the New
York
Times says it has seen an early
draft
Jericka Duncan has details plus
an
interview tonight with a new
accuser and
a warning some of what you're
about to
hear is graphic according to
The Times
the 59 page draft report says
Moonves
deliberately lied about and
minimized
the extent of his sexual
misconduct
partly to protect his 120
million dollar
severance package plus he
allegedly
deleted text messages
instructed at
least one person not to speak to
investigators and that either
he or
someone else handed over his
son's iPad
to investigators instead of his
own
there are a lot of people at
CBS that
knew about the allegations
against him
there were people at CBS that
knew about
his efforts to try to cover up
his
behavior and a lot of people
who didn't
do anything about it
according to The Times
investigators
interviewed 11 women and found
their
accounts to be credible the
time says
the lawyers have now identified
a total
of 17 women among the new
allegations in
the report
Moonves had a CBS employee on
call to
perform oral sex on him and
received
oral sex from at least for CBS
employees
under circumstances that sound
transactional in 2017 at a
variety
magazine event
Moonves said this about sexual
harassment but I think it's
important
that a company's culture will
not allow
for this The Times also reports
that
investigators found at least
one CBS
board member knew of the sexual
misconduct allegations about
Moonves
before joining the board in
2007 and
that last year
CBS's former head of
communications
learned of a sexual misconduct
allegation against Moonves but
did not
report it then he he'll be very
very
close and he didn't kiss
he just might throw today we
spoke to
another woman June Seeley
Kimmel says
Moonves forcibly kissed her in
1985
after she pitched a movie to
him when
Moonves was the head of
development at
20th Century Fox what would you
say now
I can't believe I'm gonna get
emotional
you killed the dream of a woman
who was
so young needed a break and
worked so
hard to get that and you do
really it
was awful
we reached out to moonves's
attorney for
comment about Kimmel's
accusation but
have not heard back yet but
moonves's
attorney did tell the times
this he
denies having any
non-consensual sexual
relation and cooperated
extensively and
fully with the investigators a
spokesman
for the investigator said no
findings
have been reported to the board
and the
board has reached no
conclusions on this
matter the times again says
that this
report is expected to be
presented to
the board sometime next week
Jeff no brother what a douche
well the
whole thing of course if you
think about
it is the CBS is turned on him
in a
group in a really massive way
that's
because we want to minimize
that hundred
and twenty million dollars yeah
I got to
give the guy props though for
having a
hooker on on premise call no I
call an
actual call colleague but there
was a
button under his desk I just
did a deal
same guys that penalized
everybody for Janet Jackson's
nipple
there you go everybody that's
your CBS
paying colleagues to fellate
you while
screaming bloody murder about a
nipple
and that is your deconstruction
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