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December 20th, 2018 • 2h 57m

1096: Algorithmic Amplification

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oh no spasms in trouble Adam curry
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Jhansi Devorah this is your
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award-winning Nation Media assassination
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episode 96 this is no agenda curry from
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Northern Silicon Valley where I'm just
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back from making a batch of delicious
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homemade sauerkraut I'm John see
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tomorrow and the recipe will be made
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available in these show notes
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want it well you don't it's just so
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simple recipe I mean once you doing
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research you found out how to make it
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you this is idiotic that why you buy
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this stuff now what is what is the basis
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of sauerkraut 800 grams of cabbage and 1
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tablespoon of salt mixed together
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vinegar no vinegar no God no vinegar no
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water that's it it's cabbage salt mixed
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together boom kraut
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there's some intermediate steps be
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careful about certain things but just
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leave just a few intermediate steps it's
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a few well here we are everybody it's
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December 20th 2018 and I found the news
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to be interesting these last four days
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yes yes yes I picked up some interesting
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stuff I had some research I liked it I
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don't know it was good there's a lot
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going on yeah what did you pick up
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I got a lot of random stuff I didn't
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find anything things that would make me
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go and ha ha can I do an eye on you then
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or try ya know knock me out
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ya know there it is contributing to the
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one contributing to the word cloud thank
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you very much that's that's a new
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feature now I think that the clog walk
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is doing Tom from Australia for our
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transferred cloud over the art
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of each episode it's interesting I like
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it it's another part of our value for
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value network you never know what shows
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up it's always valuable somehow yeah
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it's so valuable it is a report came out
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big Senate commissioned report and of
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course some of the news outlets seem to
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have an advanced copy of this report the
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day before I think this came out Monday
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Monday or maybe Tuesday this is the
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Select Senate Intelligence Committee
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committee and they've published two
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reports that they commissioned and the
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first one is titled computational
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propaganda research project that's from
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the University of Oxford I'm gonna skip
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that one for today's presentation the
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second one is from a company based in
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Austin which caught my eye called new
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knowledge and another thing called my
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eye the title of this report is the
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tactics and tropes of the internet
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research agency that would be the
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Russian troll farm and what caught my
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mind caught my eye was the word tropes
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haven't we heard this used a little more
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I mean I think I I recall saying hey
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what is this tropes thing they're using
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last week or the week before maybe even
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I was it was it was it was a while ago
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are you fuck you in the shower you kept
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me back what are you doing just tell me
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help me out I've written the clip list I
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forgot to do that oh okay um trope meme
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cliche right but I've talked about we
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put it up just a dupe is it it's one of
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those terms I've had this the theory
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over the years which is there are
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certain terms if you read them or hear
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them or see them you know what the
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political standing is that the person
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doing the writing trope is the
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left-wingers to Hermus like chilling is
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another one I see somebody used the word
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chilling right it tends to be someone
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that leans a little bit to the left that
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would make sense when we dive into this
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report a little bit I just thought it
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was interesting that the word tropes had
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showed up or trope or just before this
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report came out I'm gonna give you a
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background on this actually I'm not
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going to I'm going to give you a
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background from NPR and because this
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report has now proven once and for all
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that the Russians most definitely helped
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not just help but probably elected Trump
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as president
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yes and the way they did it was not
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through advertising no no no that was
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nothing compared to what actually went
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on and that was the fake accounts the
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fake accounts were so good that they
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made made three million
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african-americans stay home and not vote
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in this election and that's why Hillary
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Clinton lost and NPR explains two
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reports out today providing a clearest
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picture yet of the extent to which
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Russia went to influence voters ahead of
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the 2016 presidential election the
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reports focus on a Russian troll
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factories use of nearly every major
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social media platform from Facebook to
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YouTube NPR justice reporter Ryan Lucas
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has combed through the documents and
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joins us now hey Ryan brother so who
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exactly authored these reports well this
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is the work of I like how he combed
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through the documents does that mean he
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really looked at him or just we do it's
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just the three brushes what does that
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mean combed through them is this the
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analyst I'm gonna wait until you're back
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so who exactly authored these reports
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well this is the work of private
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researchers and cybersecurity experts
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and what they did is and note the
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private researchers and security experts
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that's kind of code for this austin
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startup company examine the activities
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of this Russian troll farm that we've
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talked a lot about now the reports are
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based on data that the social media
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companies and the Senate Intelligence
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Committee provided them important to
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remember that that committee is
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investigating Russia's interference in
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the 2016 election right it views its
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role as getting to the bottom of what
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the Russians did and then explaining
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that to the American public that's why
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we're able to see these reports that of
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course stands in contrast to the special
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counsels investigation which is focused
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on criminal conduct and prosecuting
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those who broke the law what do these
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new reports add that is actually new
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right well first off what they confirm
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bottom line is the big picture
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conclusions that the US intelligence
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community came to which is that Russia
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social media manipulation was designed
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to sow discord to divide Americans and
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hurt Hillary Clinton and ultimately to
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help Donald Trump but
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they also provide a greater level of
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detail than we previously had they show
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that the IRA built up fake personas
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across all sorts of social media
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platforms that lent them legitimacy but
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what's really interesting is the
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research shows that the Russians
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specifically targeted African American
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communities at a higher rate than any
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other uh and the Russians also pushed
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voter suppression narratives to agree
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that social media companies themselves
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have played done so okay so you say the
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West was targeted African American
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communities more than any other
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community how did they do that
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oh wow just how did they do that
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well these efforts were focused on
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developing an audience even recruiting
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assets so people to act in the real
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world to say staged rallies now one of
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the reports says that a main message
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that was pushed to African American
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voters was that it was best to sit out
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the election to boycott the election
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that the press turn out right and then
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one example of a fake persona that was
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created by the IRA that got a lot of
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traction by the IRA that got a lot of
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it's an Instagram account set up with
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the username of that black stag Ram
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and it had more than 300,000 followers
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one of the things that these reports
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made clear is that the Russians
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leveraged every major social media
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platform Instagram had largely stayed
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under the radar that's no longer the
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case these reports say that Instagram
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was actually a huge part of those
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efforts online for example when the
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report says that fake Russian content on
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Facebook received seventy six point five
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million engagements on Instagram fake
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Russian content earned more than two
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times as many engagements Wow okay just
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this is almost done this clip but stop
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there you're talking apples and oranges
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when you're talking engagement I'd look
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just the other day at my Twitter
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statistics for a tweet I sent out and I
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saw you know one person had created
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three engagements though so how do you
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do that well you look you saw it first
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then you liked it that's the second one
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if you retweeted it that's the third so
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one user can create three engagements on
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Instagram the reason why it's really
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apples to oranges is while you cannot
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retweet just scrolling by will count as
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a view and the the process of engaging
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on Instagram is just going to Timeline
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double tapping on the picture you don't
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even have to look at the car
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mint or anything and this is people do
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this incessantly does it double tap
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DoubleTap double tap done so that to get
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huge engagement doesn't necessarily mean
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it's it's it was different from Facebook
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that and researchers say importantly
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looking ahead that the Russians have
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shifted a lot of their activity to
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Instagram since the election which is an
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important point the Russians are still
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using social media to try to influence
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Americans friends
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absolutely no and it's a really
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important point to make that Russians
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continue to use fake accounts on these
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platforms for nefarious purposes gotta
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stop with a logical every once in a
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while you got to be logically
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if all that's true and the Russians can
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do this and they're doing it as we speak
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how come they haven't done it to stop
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this stupid investigation but they're
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trying really hard no powerful they got
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us the budget if they can change the
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election but they apparently cannot stop
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this investigation hey ixnay on the
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object ley okay so let's take a look at
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this company new knowledge for just a
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brief second we'll come back to him
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they're in Austin startup they started
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at the capital factory I know the
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capital factory well and no Jason over
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there it's a kind of like an incubator
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where their business model is selling
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yes thank you Bader or one of those just
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rent your office here as I was saying
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it's an it's an Inc like all incubators
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they have you know what do you call them
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their mentors and they rent you a desk
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of course it's exactly what it is that's
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what an incubator isn't they take stock
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in in exchange for that but also there's
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some other interesting investors we have
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the here it is the gvv which is a
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Chinese based investor
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and then we also have the c-lux capital
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which was set up in 2011 by former CIA
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director under bill clinton james
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Woolsey and they're also a partner in
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this company now if you look at this
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company's homepage new knowledge comm
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what they do is the following - hold on
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a second you tell me the Chinese and
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ex-cia guys are promoting a kind of a
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narrative we'll use that word just
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slightly more or less
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I'd say smear Trump because he didn't
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win the election logically or
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legitimately well let's take one though
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the CIA's been out to get Trump since
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day one and there's no coincidence here
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let's take it a little further
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both cofounders of the company worked in
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the State Department in cyber
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initiatives under Hillary Clinton they
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are a member of the Alliance for
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securing democracy which is counseled by
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Mike Chertoff Bill Kristol Mike Morell
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John Podesta Mike Rogers I mean this is
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it's yeah it's it's obviously a shill
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but what's interesting is this company
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does do a certain kind of business right
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there on the home page protecting brands
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from social media disinformation attacks
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new knowledge is a cyber security
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company specializing in information
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defense for highly visible brands under
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attack by coordinated disinformation
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campaigns through machine learning and
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AI we detect threats and provide brand
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manipulation protection before damage is
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done and you know so they have big
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clients and one of their clients is that
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is the Advisory Council or the S are the
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Alliance for securing democracies that's
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one of their clients this is who they
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work for so it's obvious that they are
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as you already said just by using the
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word trope kind of shows their their
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left-leaning but if you look at the
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entire I'm not gonna read anything from
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this report John it's a marketing report
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that you and I would have been proud of
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a consultancy and with graphs and then
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diagrams and colorful shit spouting off
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the page and numbers of the S you want
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and their conclusion is indeed that
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Russia succeeded with huge just huge
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amounts of a social engineering through
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accounts they managed not through the
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ads but through account they managed to
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keep three million black Americans from
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coming out to vote which interestingly
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is exactly the same amount of people
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that came out in addition to the black
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vote when Barack Obama ran for president
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ran for re-election in 2012 you can see
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the graph it goes
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and it comes later great do they show
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here is what I'd want to know
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immediately is what I'd want to know
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the graph of the black Americans who
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didn't show up to vote which was the
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number they have the black Americans who
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did show up to vote when Barack Obama
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was running and the black America there
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was a zephyr and the black Americans who
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didn't show up in the previous election
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with George W Bush no they don't go back
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to well they do they have it they have a
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graph and a timeline and it's kind of
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flat and you see it start to move up in
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2008 but not really the real the real
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upward swing with 2012 accordingly
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according to their graph but and
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otherwise those time so I would compare
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the 2004 election to the 2016 election
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and that would be my baseline for saying
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it with how the blacks normally yeah
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unfortunately I don't think there works
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because they didn't do it by percentages
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but by absolute numbers so yes it was
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more than 2004 but that could also be
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population I mean but it was more than
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2004 it was more than 2000 for Hillary
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vote no it was more than yes
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then the vote in 2004 then what did this
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is making no sense to me at all what
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they're saying is that the vote in 2012
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the Hillary vote no the Obama
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re-election vote he was up three million
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from 2008
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and the light sorry
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so what exactly in fact NPR in their own
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reporting on the same day contradicts
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this it's estimated that millions of
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people who voted for Barack Obama in
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2012 stayed home during the 2016
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presidential election and many of those
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non voters were black for this political
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season one big question is whether
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African Americans still feel like they
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have a home in the Democratic Party a
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party that year after year depends on
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their votes and P our political
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correspondent Ozma holla'd reports from
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Cleveland for many black voters I talked
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to say they have been loyal Democrats
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for years and yet hardly anything has
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changed in their communities if a Oh
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Luke later is a 23 year old working with
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the Ohio young black Democrats
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he says his party has taken black votes
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for granted and that's something that
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needs to change clearly because black
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Millennials will just stay at home it's
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not 1980 where people are still like
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kind of fresh like our parents just got
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the right to vote played or feels like
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Democrats are too focused on courting
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middle class white voters focusing on
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waspy middle class issues is not going
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to win in 2018 or 2020 but his friend
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and fellow Democrat Gabrielle Jackson
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insists the situation is improving in
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2016 she says some candidates simply
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refuse to engage with black voters this
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year is different we've had almost every
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gubernatorial candidate we'll have them
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all by May by the primary come and talk
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to us about our issues and things that
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affect them and Jackson says if
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politicians don't they shouldn't expect
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votes these people are recognizing that
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in order to win you cannot ignore us so
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maybe it wasn't the Russians but maybe
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it was I don't know NPR seems a bit
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contradictory there and they're
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reporting now this year so here's the
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line I liked
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1980 when our parents were first allowed
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to vote yeah I know hey man don't you
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know that that was the first year that
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they were allowed to vote when I parents
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are first allowed to vote yeah okay well
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that's an interesting well I sense a
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sense of history well I think what would
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what he means there is if you look at
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the when were they when were they
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allowed to vote
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they were allowed to vote after that
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what that amendment was passed which we
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have citizens yes but I think that I
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think he's referring to the Civil Rights
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Act for some reason Civil Rights Act
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what was this a fourth
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yeah well that's not 1980 no but but if
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you if you were born and night Reagan
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got elected if you were born in 1960
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then you would be able to vote in the
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1980 election isn't that the point that
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he's making even though it's wrong were
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born in the 1960s is what you said that
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I think look I'm just trying to decipher
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this as well I think what the guy said
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meant is they were born right before the
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Civil Rights Act and they could actually
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vote in the 80s you could vote before
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the Civil Rights Act of course you could
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I'm just I don't want to belabor this
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because it's MPR it's stupid hello it's
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stupid I'm just pointing it out called
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out for their lack of history I mean
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when you get kids coming home from
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school saying they see crap you know
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Christopher Columbus was a slaver and
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that's what he's best known for that
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Martin Luther King Freight freed the
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slaves my favorite one that I got from
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one of my no that's a good one right out
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of grammar school do you have to wonder
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what he's just kids thinking when he
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says that I'm thinking he someone told
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him this
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so this new knowledge company which is
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only two years old came out of their
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non-profit lobbying organization called
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data for democracy and this was set up
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when they were all working in the State
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Department and luckily I was able to
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find one of these co-founders rene der
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├ęsta who co-founded the outfit with
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jonathan morgan which is a fun name to
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search on and I happened to pick up a
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little snippet of an interview that she
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did with qirush we sure sure yeah so
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data for democracy is a data science
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collective there's about 3,000 members
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and it is much bigger than justice
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information there's channels in there
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were people looking at vehicular traffic
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fatality data where people are looking
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at gerrymandering voter registration
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it's just a collective of data
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scientists who are interested in using
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their skills to make a difference in the
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world most of social good projects one
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of the channels in there is related to
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disinformation and misinformation when
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we started realizing the extent to which
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this was a problem I began doing some
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advising in Congress and as you know at
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the time I was actually working at a
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supply chain logistics company that I
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had helped found I got to be a little
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bit difficult explaining why I worked in
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supply chain logistics but also this was
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like my my passion project so we decided
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that we would spin up a policy team at
20:12
data for democracy whereby we could do a
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little bit of lobbying as independent
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tech independent techies basically the
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new knowledge is a company that builds
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detection and mitigation technologies
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specifically for manipulated narratives
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so there is social listening where
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brands will get alerted to social you
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know they have five hundred mentions of
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coca-cola for example what new knowledge
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does is we ascertain whether or not
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those mentions are organic or if they're
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kind of coordinated campaign to write
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impact the reputation of the end and I
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been right around the same time I met
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Jonathan Morgan who's the founder of new
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knowledge and we met because we were
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asked to do some analysis of extreme
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and lost the plot
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now she's data for dick no no no no I'll
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tell you know exactly the opposite they
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started data for democracy when they
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were working for Hillary Clinton in the
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State Department and then as
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disinformation started to crop up they
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saw an opportunity for business so they
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say I don't know if the CIA investment
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or the Chertoff group or those guys had
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anything to do with that decision but
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then they started new knowledge new
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knowledge and we met because we were
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asked to do some analysis of extremist
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content on social media specifically
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Isis now Jonathan was one of the authors
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of the ISIS Twitter's they were by
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Congress they did she doesn't say who in
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conferences where they really went in
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there and the same kind of work that
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Gilad zoton and I had done on mapping
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the anti-vaccination in the way that
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they were using kind of affinity
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marketing and co-opting hashtags and
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trying to grow their numbers trying to
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look a lot bigger than they were
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jonathan was doing very similar types of
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analysis on Isis and on violent
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extremism there were a lot of parallels
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in how the technology was being used you
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know the conspiracy theorists were
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relying on these new you know
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algorithmic amplification to spread
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their message and Isis was building a
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virtual Caliphate by which both things
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at the time were largely being run
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completely undisturbed because nobody
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could convince the social platforms that
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right this was worth they're using them
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exactly the way they were built in fact
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the week before the election Jonathan
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Morgan was tweeting and writing up media
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and all this is in the show notes
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writing up medium pages and pages not
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about Russia no alt-right alt-right KKK
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that's who are there all over the even
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though Trump's gonna lose watch out all
22:53
brightness has captured they've
22:54
dominated Facebook by not a word about
22:57
the Russians
22:59
and so then they obviously were tasked
23:02
just recently to create this new
23:05
narrative which you could do with data
23:06
for anything you want it's it's really a
23:09
big piece of fluff but what happened
23:11
this morning and this is why I think
23:12
it's interesting big bombshell news in
23:16
the New York Times secret experiment in
23:18
Alabama Senate race imitated Russian
23:22
tactics I shall read you a few
23:24
paragraphs as Russia's online election
23:27
masa nations came to light last year a
23:29
group of Democratic tech experts decided
23:31
to try out similarly deceptive tactics
23:33
in the fiercely contested Alabama Senate
23:36
race according to people familiar with
23:38
the efforts and a report on its results
23:40
the secret project carried out on
23:42
Facebook and Twitter was likely to have
23:44
small to small to have significant
23:46
effect on the race in which the
23:48
Democratic candidate was designed to
23:49
help doug jones edged out the republican
23:52
Roy Moore but it was a sign that
23:54
American political operatives of both
23:55
parties have paid close attention to the
23:58
Russian methods which some fear may come
23:59
to taint elections in the United States
24:02
one participant in the Alabama project
24:04
jonathan morgan is the chief executive
24:07
of new knowledge a small cybersecurity
24:09
firm that wrote a scathing account of
24:11
russia's social media operations in the
24:13
2016 election these guys use their own
24:17
tactics that are the tactics that they
24:20
accused the russians of - only slightly
24:24
just slightly too small really to do
24:26
anything to slightly alter the results
24:29
of the alabama senate race
24:33
so to push it towards Stacey
24:36
no the other got Jones but why okay so
24:39
what you're saying that he bow yes but
24:42
how does it make any sense
24:45
we've already determined that these
24:47
people are lefties they went to social
24:50
good they got all the right phrases they
24:52
want to write buzzwords so why would
24:54
they why would these same people go into
24:56
Alabama to screw the lefty no that's no
24:59
running no that's the white guy you
25:00
completely misunderstood it okay they
25:04
right that's why I asked the original
25:06
question it was designed to help Doug
25:08
Jones it was designed to help Doug
25:10
I thought he's the Republic and more is
25:13
the Republican oh I'm thinking of Stacy
25:15
I think into the other race this is what
25:17
what state is this Alabama worse than
25:20
what was Stacy dead who cares who cares
25:22
don't get don't get lost on that I do
25:24
want to know why kids I don't want to
25:26
lose track of than of the plot here the
25:28
Stacy the the one woman who ran for
25:31
something in one of these states I
25:32
forgot already was the real lefty that
25:37
should have been helped if they're gonna
25:38
help anybody
25:39
she almost won
25:42
I don't know what that I don't know how
25:45
that contributes to the story the point
25:47
but I would have contributed the stories
25:49
why would you help because I was mixed
25:51
up would you help because I was mixed
25:51
oh you presented the story it sounded as
25:54
though they were helping the room no I
25:55
read it verbatim from the New York Times
25:58
okay it verbatim from the New York Times
25:59
the secret project carried out on
26:01
Facebook and Twitter was likely too
26:02
small to have a significant effect on
26:04
the race in which Democratic candidate
26:06
was designed to help who Doug Jones who
26:09
edged out the Republican Roy SPS more
26:11
okay Roy and Lauren yes so but they
26:16
await your this is this is not the most
26:18
recent election there's no more thing
26:20
yes yes yes yes a special alas now
26:25
you're with me okay so this color that
26:28
guy you know okay well that that guy
26:33
more was the loser I mean this company
26:36
that's that's beside the point
26:39
yeah this company that is now being
26:42
touted as the cyber security experts
26:45
firm that can prove that the Russians
26:48
may Trump win by suppressing black
26:50
Americans millions of them did this
26:53
exact same thing to a small degree yeah
26:56
in the special election these guys are
26:59
they may have done the Russian stuff for
27:01
all I know but that's what's being
27:03
touted as the proof the proof that this
27:06
took place okay well if they did that in
27:09
that more election that means they did
27:11
it in these other elections thank you
27:12
very much it's possible that they're the
27:14
ones responsible for the woman in
27:16
Arizona long time they'll vote any
27:18
Republican in his US Senator somehow
27:21
this the Democrat won and bado came
27:26
pretty close to winning in a really
27:28
staunch Republican state so these guys
27:31
are using this technology that they've
27:34
discovered yes they think they have to
27:37
to slant the elections these guys should
27:39
be jailed and remember they're in Austin
27:42
Texas the whole bado thing was knows of
27:44
Texas the whole bado thing was knows of
27:46
Texas event obviously and it didn't work
27:48
so maybe you still need your traditional
27:51
ways of marketing and mind control which
27:54
of course they almost worked it almost
27:57
worked but yeah I would say that is a
28:00
possibility these guys did that they
28:02
certainly know how to do it needs to get
28:04
underway if there's anything in Arizona
28:07
the Arizona thing is always concerned me
28:09
it really makes no sense to me that this
28:11
that is two women one's the Republican
28:14
wants a Democrat they're Democrats or
28:16
the Republicans always win that state it
28:18
was John McCain's seat
28:21
and it goes to this Democrat for some
28:24
reason okay
28:25
well hold on a second so now you're
28:26
going to tell me that these kind of
28:28
tactics actually work
28:32
I'm going to yeah cuz I agree I think
28:35
they do I think the Internet is a
28:37
massive mind controlling machine and if
28:40
you if you have some of the elements
28:41
right I think you can do you can do a
28:43
lot particularly if you can meld
28:46
mainstream media into the into the loop
28:49
I think absolutely it's always been in
28:51
the loop well there's no loop without
28:53
them is that the social networks need
28:55
the mainstream and mainstream needs to
28:57
social networks it's a continuous loop
28:59
that they know I would say that all
29:01
these contested elections all need to be
29:04
done over again no but how do you stop
29:11
that what they did you don't but it's
29:13
it's the same I mean it's the same thing
29:15
and it happens everywhere newspapers are
29:17
you know subjective television
29:20
advertising political advertising it's
29:22
what we do we mind-control people in
29:24
America here take this pill you'll live
29:26
longer here take this pill you'll live
29:26
come on this is art this is art foam
29:28
finger number one
29:31
and now we do it on Facebook and that's
29:34
okay I'm totally bought yeah yeah and
29:37
I'm sure Instagram really did it yeah
29:40
I'm sure yeah
29:42
this report is something that every
29:44
marketer should take a look at because
29:45
it's it's showing you how you can take
29:48
data just any old data really and
29:50
convince your client you did a good job
29:52
and giving them the answer they wanted
29:53
to hear with a lot of pretty colors
29:56
fresh with I could tell that most and
29:58
they have a lot of examples of these
30:00
memes that were created they're so
30:03
stupid I mean I did not see a single
30:06
meme there that look like it would do
30:07
anything but somehow the black stir gram
30:10
Instagram account with 300,000 followers
30:15
translated to 3 million black Americans
30:18
staying home then that's why hillary
30:20
lost its well there's yeah I'm gonna go
30:24
visit this company I want to meet him
30:25
now this company I want to meet him
30:27
right up the street yeah hey when I get
30:30
a job not any more money you're making
30:32
on the show thank you guys make me
30:34
president that would be fun but this of
30:39
course has to take a lot of these the
30:41
thing that I think the point is is that
30:43
the judge Roy Moore thing there's a good
30:46
example which is I was confused and I'm
30:48
sorry that's all right
30:49
it was a is that a lot of these
30:52
elections at this point because we won't
30:54
we both know and everybody listens the
30:56
show knows the Democrat Republican
30:57
parties are pretty much the same and
30:59
it's just a matter of the way they slant
31:02
things yeah and so the elections are
31:04
closed these are not elections fun just
31:06
by the same funded by the same people
31:08
yeah they're closed and they're
31:10
generally speaking one guy will win or
31:12
lose by a to one or two percent of the
31:14
vote and so it doesn't really take much
31:16
to tweak it a little bit to get the
31:20
other guy to win uh and that's where I
31:23
think the danger is but both parties
31:27
have access to the same way of doing
31:29
things for a long time that the
31:31
Republicans always say oh the Democrats
31:33
are so far ahead of us when it comes to
31:36
using data to so far ahead of us when it
31:38
comes to producing documentaries which
31:40
means that Michael Moore one man so for
31:44
those very successful well of well
31:46
watched documentaries and so they you
31:49
know so now everyone's doing
31:50
documentaries and their get their
31:51
computer together but before that during
31:53
the Reagan administration when Richard I
31:57
think it's Richard vigor II was a very
31:59
famous direct marketing guy and who's
32:03
wrote in a written a number of books on
32:05
the topic everyone pointed to him say
32:08
we're never gonna win because we don't
32:10
have the technology we don't know what
32:11
we're doing when it comes to direct
32:13
market right it's just the same you know
32:16
it's like a bit say what we've learned
32:18
from learned from Brad Pascal who did
32:20
the you know from the him was that the
32:23
the PBS interview we learned that really
32:26
it was just about scale spending a
32:28
hundred million dollars yeah spending it
32:31
on people who would likely vote for
32:33
Trump that was pretty much all they did
32:36
so you still need scale
32:38
you still need lots of money you need to
32:40
repeat it over and over and over again
32:42
yeah 300 thousand followers on some
32:46
obscure Instagram account is not going
32:48
to keep some grandma who doesn't even
32:50
know what Instagram is from voting she's
32:54
not gonna vote because she doesn't like
32:55
the candidate we already don't vote for
32:58
Republicans let's your stay home yeah we
33:00
heard that's exactly what we heard from
33:01
NPR zone reporting on the same day they
33:03
were report that buck clearly clearly it
33:06
was the Russian troll farm very the
33:09
great messaging they're the best
33:11
marketers in the world we should hire
33:13
them yeah to promote No Agenda
33:17
we should but I find it despicable I
33:20
wonder if they can ever sell a car in
33:21
this country there's such a great
33:22
marketing people yeah so there's your
33:26
deconstruction of what you'll be hearing
33:28
a lot of in the coming few days that
33:30
that's what happened it's a fact Russia
33:34
did it impeach Trump I
33:40
seat you must impeach
33:46
well that's good that was good it was
33:47
outstanding I couldn't give you a clip
33:48
of the day nah there's not enough click
33:50
now there's no clips there's no I do
33:51
have a couple just a few loose things
33:53
two loose clips just want to get rid of
33:55
the short this is since we're talking
33:59
about collusion with these types of
34:00
companies collusion with these types of
34:01
we always had CrowdStrike in our in our
34:06
sites since they are staffed by
34:09
Ukrainian Ukrainians who hate Russia and
34:13
also have a lot of intelligence
34:15
investment behind them this is Sidney
34:18
Powell author of license to lie on Comey
34:21
and the CrowdStrike collusion sitting I
34:23
think it goes back to 2012 Lou what we
34:26
really need disclosed is the FISA Court
34:28
decision and to know who the private
34:30
contractors are that mr. Comey gave
34:32
unlimited access to the raw FISA Intel
34:35
to I think one of them was fusion GPS
34:38
the other might have been CrowdStrike
34:40
they were accessing the NSA database
34:42
probably for private profit it's going
34:45
to be the scandal of the century we need
34:47
to know who those people are
34:49
yeah they were accessing the NSA
34:52
database for private Ukrainian Ukrainian
34:55
mafia for private Ukrainian Ukrainian
34:57
it's too bad John McCain's dead cuz he's
35:00
the link to all that that guy was the
35:03
link with everything if he's dead
35:05
sometimes I wonder quickie here last one
35:09
this is are not really quick eaten min
35:10
and a half Washington Post Greg Miller I
35:13
guess he's a famous guys neither like
35:15
one of their big writers well anywhere
35:17
the name Miller is always possibly
35:19
famous okay The Times in particular yeah
35:22
are they where the Washington Post was
35:24
one of the first companies to get a
35:27
preview waffleh waffleh waffleh to get a
35:29
preview look of the steel dossier
35:32
dossier and here's what he said about it
35:34
in the book is Michael Steele the author
35:38
of the the infamous dossier and he
35:41
secretly went to the Washington Post in
35:43
September 2016 when he was trying to get
35:46
word out about some of his findings they
35:48
met with a couple of reporters there for
35:50
two hours I I don't think you
35:52
you were warned about the two of your
35:55
colleagues and they elaborated on as
35:57
dossier oh and of course what some of
36:00
the things that that that are in that
36:02
dossier have proven true other elements
36:05
haven't you'll notice they don't
36:08
actually mention which parts have proven
36:10
true but he goes into the ones that have
36:11
not been proven at least not yet but
36:16
what do you think of the dossier overall
36:19
I think that overall like it it's in its
36:22
broadest its most accurate and its
36:25
broadest most sweeping assertions and
36:27
conclusions it's the narrower you get in
36:31
the more particularly you get the harder
36:33
it is to figure out whether it's on the
36:36
mark so you know the very first memo
36:40
that he writes it that is now part of
36:43
you know this collection of memos that
36:44
we call the dossier talks about Russia
36:47
is waging a campaign to interfere in the
36:49
American election with the goal of
36:50
helping to elect Donald Trump I mean
36:53
he's writing that way before any of us
36:54
writing it in wait before he started
36:57
reaching that conclusion so he's way
36:59
ahead down you know the the thing that
37:03
people I think
37:04
remember the most vividly about the the
37:07
dossier is you know the idea that
37:09
there's a tape somewhere some compromise
37:11
of Trump consorting with prostitutes the
37:13
ritz-carlton or Moscow I mean could be
37:17
having given what we know about Trump
37:19
but searching I would be outside the
37:22
realm of the possible that this happened
37:24
but we've seen no evidence we have we
37:26
still II and it's not for lack of trying
37:28
I mean there's other material in the
37:29
dossier we we literally spent weeks and
37:32
months trying to run down there's an
37:34
assertion in there that Michael Cohen
37:35
Trump's lawyer went to Prague to settle
37:39
payments that were needed at the end of
37:41
the campaign
37:42
we sent reporters through every Hotel in
37:45
Prague through all over the place to
37:47
random just to try to figure out if he
37:49
was ever there
37:50
yeah a question I have a question about
37:53
that year is that is that really their
37:55
job as journalists to send reporters to
38:00
every Hotel to basically help the Muller
38:03
investigation is that really their job
38:06
was it to help the Muller investing is
38:09
it but even as journalists I mean of
38:12
course Washington Post so they always
38:13
think that they are and you know all the
38:15
president's men that this is you know
38:16
the the the Watergate scandal so that's
38:19
why they put I mean they put a lot of
38:20
resources into this for you know
38:22
companies that or an industry that says
38:25
they don't have that they put a lot of
38:26
resources into it
38:28
and I this made me think isn't the job
38:32
of journalists in the connected world
38:34
isn't it just invalid
38:38
let me explain let me explain let me
38:40
explain - if you have events right news
38:42
is an event an event takes place and
38:44
then it really becomes an event based
38:46
upon you know how big it is or how
38:48
important people think it is for every
38:51
event let's just take a air crash
38:53
airplane there's online there's hundreds
38:58
of people who know exactly what's going
39:00
on that are writing about it
39:03
and a journalist these days all I see
39:05
them do is troll Twitter to find these
39:08
people and then to rewrite their shitty
39:11
story which is always wrong because of
39:14
page you know constraints and and just
39:16
not hearing things right not
39:18
understanding because they're not the
39:19
experts the journalists are experts at
39:21
nothing I think that used to be a good
39:23
thing I think it's the only thing really
39:25
you only need an editor
39:27
in an editor and then you can put some
39:29
opinion around something journalist I
39:31
think it's an invalid occupation it is
39:35
okay if we're doing it I'm not a
39:37
journalist if we're doing it I'm not a
39:38
I wasn't schooled as a journalist you
39:40
don't know that no no I'm a podcaster no
39:44
you're a journalist hot casters are
39:46
journalism what you did today with that
39:47
initial report is all journalism so just
39:50
because you don't like to call yourself
39:51
a journalist because you think it's an
39:52
insulting name because you have a higher
39:55
a higher view of yourself podcaster for
39:58
example which is a higher it's higher
40:00
than Journal higher than journalism yes
40:02
so you're actually bringing me down no
40:05
you bring yourself down
40:08
by doing good journalism damn it
40:12
boiled again
40:16
you're doing what they should be doing
40:18
these guys I mean the whole show that we
40:20
do is what other people should be doing
40:21
nobody's doing it they don't care - they
40:23
got a hidden agenda not so hidden secret
40:28
secret oh man anyway that'll take you
40:33
through Monday I'm sure they're still be
40:35
whining and crying about it because of
40:42
Russians please please pretty much
40:48
brexit like do you have any updates I
40:50
got some a few things up there friendly
40:55
all caving into the idea of having
40:56
another I want to play the Farraj cliff
40:59
I was gonna play some clips from the
41:01
leave me a sleeve conference yes I did
41:03
watch that thanks for sending the link
41:05
yeah I thought it was very educational
41:06
yeah and here's Faraj at the very end
41:09
giving his he's not the last speaker but
41:12
he's which I think called him a little
41:14
bit but he has he brings up the thing
41:17
that we've been bringing up since day
41:18
one two years ago about right rescinding
41:21
it is they know that is impossible for
41:24
this country to accept they have managed
41:28
in the past to engineer second
41:30
referendums in Denmark they've done it
41:33
twice in Ireland and my message folks
41:37
tonight as much as I don't want a second
41:41
referendum it will be wrong of us here
41:44
on a leave means lead platform not to
41:49
get ready not to prepare for the
41:53
worst-case scenario you know we must not
41:57
we must not fail in our preparation we
42:01
really must not do that because I fear
42:04
they'll do this to us if I'm wrong
42:07
we've lost nothing but this organization
42:09
which I joined a few months ago and
42:12
which has held these events up and down
42:14
the country we've now got to move into a
42:17
different gear we've now got to start
42:19
forming branches and active groups all
42:22
over this country we've got to be out
42:25
there this country we've got to be out
42:26
too little too late maybe Ferrari AC
42:32
gave it I have a quickie Intermezzo this
42:35
is a conservative politician Andrea
42:38
leads him with a the truth always wants
42:42
to come out moment we love these on the
42:44
No Agenda show you can't stop the truth
42:47
from slipping out of your piehole there
42:49
is a deal on the table but Parliament
42:51
doesn't support it raising the risk
42:53
some argue of leaving without an
42:56
agreement preparing for eventualities
42:58
we're certainly not intending to have no
43:00
deal brexit but Parliament does need to
43:03
vote for a deal otherwise the legal
43:06
default position is we will ahead for no
43:07
brexit No Deal in March 2019 no break No
43:15
Deal interesting no brexit whoops yes
43:22
yeah there's a you got moron I got a
43:25
couple more I think that my thrush thing
43:29
is the only thing I'm looking up and
43:31
down this list that I have about the
43:34
brexit I think that's it you've got
43:35
Brett you breakfast against all yours
43:37
okay I've got well you know what what is
43:41
being touted as this is what it's all
43:43
about which I don't believe for a second
43:45
is the Northern Ireland Ireland
43:47
situation with the border and briefly
43:49
Ireland is staying in the European Union
43:52
so even though that's completely
43:54
separated from the mainland that is seen
43:56
as a a border a EU border with the UK as
44:01
Northern Ireland is with the UK now this
44:03
has not been an enforced border or any
44:05
kind of barricades for 30 years it was a
44:07
right mess back in the 70s and 80s and I
44:11
remember living in Europe man with IRA
44:13
blowing shit up everywhere visiting
44:17
London and they blew up a bunch of
44:19
things around us and they David we
44:21
wanted to go to take the kids to the big
44:22
toy store Henley's whatever it's called
44:24
and that blew it up where they blew up
44:26
to something in front of it yeah so it's
44:28
you know they've had a lot of and
44:30
they've settled that and I think it's
44:32
been very calm and you know there is no
44:34
border very calm and you know there is no
44:35
in fact I have a report from euronews
44:38
and the reporters were on the scene
44:40
about the fears of the return of a
44:43
border post brexit the Irish border more
44:46
open than almost any in the world with
44:49
more roads crossing it than between the
44:51
u.s. and Canada or Russia and Eastern
44:54
Europe the border runs right down the
44:57
middle of this river and here in the
44:59
tongue it's invisible I'm crossing now
45:02
from Ireland into the UK easy and that's
45:06
the way people here want it to stay
45:08
today a radios across the border maybe
45:11
five times you've been across five times
45:13
today yeah and that's perfectly normal
45:14
perfectly normal for anybody here so
45:17
road closures be a disaster after breaks
45:21
it this will be Britain's only land
45:24
border with the European Union there are
45:26
real fears here that of Britain crashes
45:29
out of the EU without a deal a so-called
45:33
hard border will be imposed customs
45:36
officials police soldiers or two
45:38
countries yes it was militarized yes and
45:41
it was a pain in the neck absolutely
45:43
absolutely and that's all gone reviving
45:46
a guarded border wouldn't be easy this
45:49
church is in the UK it's graveyard is in
45:53
Ireland the old border posts are
45:56
abandoned the old border posts are
45:57
but hardline British brexit ears would
46:00
put them back so Britain could be free
46:02
forever of EU ties and that prospect
46:06
stirs fears here of violence you put up
46:11
physical infrastructure that people can
46:13
protest at or god forbid somebody can
46:15
attack the genie gets out of the bottle
46:17
very quick the genie of violence yes
46:20
possibly yes it might no it'll never be
46:22
we hope it never happened it'll never be
46:25
on the scale but you would see sporadic
46:27
attacks absolutely yeah I don't think
46:28
you have to worry about it because the
46:30
liberal world order of the new world
46:33
order the global order the globalists
46:35
they do not want this to happen and
46:37
they're going to do everything they can
46:38
and in fact nothing can take place no
46:42
vote no parliamentary vote nothing can
46:44
happen before January 19th because the
46:47
propaganda needs to drop on January 19th
46:50
and this propaganda is produced by HBO
46:54
and it is called brexit Benedict
46:58
Cumberbatch is the star so it's they
47:00
pulled out all the stops for this it
47:02
took a little piece from the trailer
47:04
they have not to ask the biggest
47:06
question in a generation in out and we
47:10
need a leader
47:11
[Music] a leader
47:16
how to change the course of history we
47:18
have to hook the political system
47:20
package I'm talking about ordering the
47:22
matrix of politics the social media
47:24
platforms are designed to find
47:26
like-minded people our software will
47:28
locate things target people that know
47:29
campaign is ever targeted before people
47:32
who don't and have never voted three
47:35
million extra voters have no idea exists
47:42
this is resurgence against the
47:45
establishment way to build something
47:47
that will restock the odds in our favor
47:48
what are your expectations realistically
47:51
to create the biggest big loss since the
47:53
fall of the Berlin Wall very large
47:58
let's take control so it seems like
48:03
they're going to show us very similar to
48:06
the three million blacks in America that
48:09
data and Cambridge analytic and Steve
48:12
Bannon and the Russians been said that
48:15
they manipulated everything so three
48:18
million people were found who never
48:20
voted who hated everything and wanted to
48:23
Briggs it
48:26
it's really just quite astounding who
48:29
got paid money to do this this is HBO so
48:31
the time warner owen owns HBO do they
48:35
not sigh think this to own HBO I think
48:37
they still do yeah yes Hollywood
48:40
Hollywood Hollywood you get with elites
48:43
they don't want any of this stuff going
48:44
on they're not working for the public
48:45
anymore you looking for the elitist but
48:48
also this is played by Sherlock Holmes
48:50
this is the fun of the magic yeah
48:53
Cumberbatch you're starring in this
48:55
thing you're starring in this
48:56
Oh cover bash what you should be
48:57
boycotted ah yes Wow yeah yeah the
49:04
propaganda is real
49:06
funny quick funny quote just the eight
49:09
seconder from Parliament I think someone
49:12
was talking about a parliamentary
49:15
ejection but it came out wrong and
49:18
here's what the prime minister said the
49:23
parliamentary ejaculation but we know it
49:39
works ejaculation but we know it
49:40
we know that the lowbrow stuff works
49:42
this is what you have to do that's all
49:45
people will remember from this expose so
49:55
yeah I told you I've been having fun
49:57
with the news this is the interesting
49:58
stuff going you got something surely no
50:03
I got nothing I get mostly small stuff
50:05
let's talk about a couple of things that
50:07
are important besides brexit just get to
50:12
something and now for something
50:14
important something important to us I
50:18
think we got brexit covered yeah of
50:20
course we've always had brexit cover we
50:22
knew it was going off in the get it's
50:24
not fair we as you pointed out a couple
50:27
weeks ago it's we don't play with a you
50:29
know the same deck of cards as everybody
50:31
else we're from the future so we know
50:33
what's gonna happen so this was a
50:35
democracy now has to say about Flynn ah
50:38
yes now has to say about Flynn ah
50:40
Flynn in Washington DC a federal judge
50:43
has delayed sentencing for Michael Flynn
50:45
president Trump's former national
50:46
security adviser after expressing
50:48
disgust that Flynn lied to federal
50:51
investigators Flynn's acknowledged he
50:52
lied about his meeting with Russia's
50:54
ambassador during the 2016 presidential
50:56
campaign admitted he worked as an under
50:59
edges for an agent for turkeys
51:01
government in an extraordinary to our
51:03
hearing US District Judge Emmett
51:06
Sullivan Tuesday blasted Flynn for his
51:08
conduct pointing to an American flag
51:10
inside the courtroom as he said arguably
51:13
you sold your country out judge Sullivan
51:15
offered to hold off on sentencing Flynn
51:17
if he agreed to continue to aid
51:19
dural prosecutors with special counsel
51:21
Robert Miller's probe and other criminal
51:23
investigations Miller's probe and other criminal
51:24
Faline agreed to the deal delaying any
51:26
sentencing until at least March the
51:28
court sees Flint's passport and ordered
51:30
him to remain within 50 miles of
51:31
Washington DC at the White House press
51:34
secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders
51:35
deflected questions about Flynn's court
51:37
appearance saying only that the White
51:39
House is concerned that Flynn lied to
51:40
the FBI I have some thoughts on this
51:44
what I have some thoughts on this yeah
51:47
well the couple I had given a few
51:50
initial thoughts I first of all when
51:52
this guy this judge who's apparently was
51:54
like shopped because he hates a trump
52:01
well we don't know that yeah he's there
52:03
he's the he'd he'd did some other
52:05
rulings against trustee back up
52:07
according to the right-wingers he was
52:10
shocked by Flynn's people and the Flynn
52:12
lawyers who thought he might be a minha
52:15
boat because he was a reagan appointee
52:17
got shot believe he may have been a bush
52:19
but I think was Reagan he's old and so
52:22
they found this guy and then immediately
52:23
he goes into the timeline of the FBI and
52:26
how they indicted Flynn showing that you
52:28
know he'd lied that they didn't file a
52:30
report for weeks and it was really very
52:32
poorly done FBI work but Flynn you know
52:37
rolled over because it would they
52:38
supposedly threatened his family with
52:41
you know we're gonna prosecute your kid
52:43
if you don't drive all over okay so he
52:46
did that and so it looked like the judge
52:48
according to the right-wingers was gonna
52:50
you know to kick this whole thing out
52:52
and maybe indict Flynn and I have indict
52:55
Mueller he's gonna end up in Jim Euler
52:58
is gonna end up in jail yeah sure so I'm
53:01
listening all this and then all of a
53:03
sudden this turns around the other way
53:04
where they guys not even concentrating
53:07
on the line to the FBI but other stuff
53:09
that he thinks the FBI should have
53:11
indicted him for yeah and now it's
53:13
Flynn's in a heap of trouble well so the
53:16
show has a little bit he's involved with
53:18
this a little bit I think
53:20
hey you recall that just around the time
53:23
Trump was elected through our military
53:26
intelligence channels we got a request
53:28
about Mark Hall's movie which is killing
53:33
ed about the Gulen movement and
53:37
financing of the harmony schools and all
53:39
of the would he call them via charter
53:43
charters yet charter schools and and all
53:46
this infiltration and of course it was
53:48
Petula Gulen is the CIA protected
53:51
Turkish cleric who's been hiding out in
53:54
the Poconos and Flynn wanted to see this
53:56
movie and so I connected everybody with
53:58
not connected everybody and so they saw
54:01
this movie and we both saw it too yeah
54:05
that's a great movie it's something that
54:07
it's not just about it's not about
54:09
flaming turkey is it very who them but
54:11
yeah you have to see this movie called
54:12
killing ed
54:14
and but this the evening before this
54:16
saflan sentencing to associates of Flynn
54:20
were indicted on conspiracy charges
54:22
related to four Tula Gulen and this may
54:26
also have to do with the failed coup and
54:28
it's possible that Flynn was also
54:31
involved in that here is a a quick
54:35
little back and forth at the Doha forum
54:37
this is the turkey Foreign Minister and
54:40
listen closely to what he I may have to
54:43
stop and tell you what he says another
54:45
question that's been revolving around
54:47
these conversations has been the fate of
54:49
Fotolia Gulen and what will happen to
54:51
him next
54:53
has there been progress made by your
54:55
government in discussions to have him
54:56
extradited back to Turkey well everybody
55:00
was focusing on this pastor Branson who
55:03
is also a CIA agent
55:04
I'm also very straightforward person
55:06
like our Dogon
55:07
I like this what we were talking about
55:10
he said that did the pastor pastor Brown
55:13
everyone was focused on he's a CIA agent
55:14
let's just be honest about it yeah
55:16
that's the guy that they would they were
55:17
holding and then we did a bunch of deals
55:20
to get him released
55:22
Trump was all and forget him released oh
55:25
yeah who is also a CIA agent
55:28
I'm most a very straightforward person
55:30
like a dog on but it was a minor issue
55:33
in our relations we have more serious
55:36
problems we had one of them is the u.s.
55:39
supposed to YPG PKK in Syria which are
55:42
posing threat to our national security
55:45
and the second serious problem is the
55:48
perpetrator of the attempted coup the
55:51
leader of this terrorist organization
55:52
are still in the United States but
55:56
recently I have seen the credible
55:58
investigation of the FBI in several
56:01
states and they have actually seen or
56:04
noticed the darkness of this
56:06
organization and how they have been
56:09
violating the u.s. laws including tax
56:12
fraud visa fraud and also some other
56:15
illegal activities and how professional
56:17
they are this is what FBI is telling us
56:20
so what our expectation is also be very
56:23
clear we have
56:24
the bilateral agreements and
56:26
international law is there and the this
56:29
guy and the other others belong to this
56:33
organization 84 names that we have
56:37
requested United States to extradite
56:38
they should be extradited to Turkey
56:40
do you believe you're closer to having
56:42
that happen president Trump told
56:44
everyone that they have been working on
56:46
that so here's that here's the data
56:49
points we have so Flynn is just the tip
56:52
of the iceberg these Associates of him
56:55
were ex associates who were indicted the
56:57
evening before his sentencing which I
56:59
believe delayed his sentencing comes at
57:01
the same time
57:02
Trump announces were pulling out of
57:04
Syria of course the YPG is you just
57:06
heard this is a big problem for Turkey
57:08
they hate the Kurds they want to go down
57:09
there and they want to you know get rid
57:11
of them they want to run Syria or
57:14
whoever now I don't even know who's who
57:16
and who's friends with who add to that
57:18
would that we just requested to sell a
57:21
Patriot missile system to Turkey I
57:24
believe that Trump has done some kind of
57:27
deal or he's in the middle I know if
57:29
it's his deal he's in the middle of some
57:31
kind of deal so that he's deal and
57:33
Turkey is really it the way they wanted
57:36
because they want to be the center of
57:37
the universe the way they were when it
57:38
was Constantinople and the Ottoman
57:40
Empire and this is all related khashoggi
57:43
is related Flynn and the Glenn
57:46
extradition is related there's some deal
57:49
and really I think that we're just
57:52
pulling I think Trump is pulling us out
57:54
of everything let him have it
57:55
well let's listen to that clip then this
57:58
is all American troops at a Syria part
58:01
one all American troops in Syria are
58:05
leaving the president tweeted we have
58:07
defeated Isis in Syria my only reason
58:09
for being there during the Trump
58:10
presidency the first Americans arrived
58:12
in October of 2015 they have since
58:15
helped push Isis into a few isolated
58:17
areas about 2,000 American troops are
58:20
there now but today's announcement still
58:22
stunned some top Republicans who believe
58:25
more work needs to be done David Martin
58:27
begins our coverage the president
58:30
claimed Isis in Syria is defeated so our
58:33
boys are young women our men
58:37
they're all coming back and they're
58:39
coming back now
58:40
we won and it is true the territory Isis
58:43
once held the so-called Caliphate has
58:45
been reduced to just a few pockets but
58:49
the fighting remains fierce last week
58:52
the US and its allies launched more than
58:54
200 air and artillery strikes many of
58:57
them called in by American special
58:59
operations forces working with local
59:01
fighters on the ground the president's
59:04
decision was denounced by members of his
59:06
own party I doubt there's anybody in
59:08
there Republican caucus in the Senate
59:09
that just hasn't stunned by this
59:12
precipitous decision that just like you
59:15
woke up in the morning and made it
59:17
Republican Senator Lindsey Graham called
59:19
for hearings to determine whether the
59:20
pullout is based on military advice or
59:23
in spite of it the abrupt withdrawal
59:26
runs counter to US strategy has
59:28
explained little more than a week ago by
59:30
a senior State Department official I
59:32
think it's fair to say Americans will
59:34
remain on the ground after the physical
59:36
defeat of the caliphate until we have
59:37
the pieces in place to ensure that that
59:38
defeat is enduring Joint Chiefs chairman
59:41
General Joseph Dunford recently
59:42
explained what that would take we
59:44
estimate for example about 35 to 40,000
59:48
local forces have to be trained and
59:50
equipped in order to provide stability
59:52
we're probably somewhere along the line
59:55
of 20% through the training of those
59:57
forces for Dunford that meant US troops
1:00:01
wouldn't be leaving anytime soon but the
1:00:03
president's mind appears to have been
1:00:05
made up since March we're going to be
1:00:07
coming out of there real soon gonna get
1:00:09
back to our country where we belong so
1:00:12
after four years and the loss of four
1:00:15
American servicemen senior military
1:00:17
leaders are scrambling to get all US
1:00:20
troops out of Syria in 30 days or as
1:00:23
soon after as possible they're also
1:00:25
wondering what comes next since the
1:00:27
president Trump has said his instincts
1:00:30
tell him to pull out of Afghanistan as
1:00:32
well him to pull out of Afghanistan as
1:00:32
Jeff David Martin at the Pentagon forced
1:00:35
David thank you so that's the kind of
1:00:38
the basic written that don't forget see
1:00:39
by CBS is the mouthpiece of the CIA for
1:00:43
all practical purposes yep so we're
1:00:45
getting good information so that's
1:00:47
listen to what Holly Williams the the
1:00:49
foreign correspondent who's floating
1:00:52
around she's always an Istanbul
1:00:54
reporting from every place Alice but
1:00:56
here she is and this has got a little
1:00:58
kicker on it that was kind of
1:00:59
interesting okay Holly Williams has
1:01:01
reported extensively on Syria having
1:01:03
visited the country ten times now Holly
1:01:05
joins us from Istanbul tonight Holly
1:01:07
first of all what does this mean for the
1:01:09
fight against Isis well Jeff a local
1:01:13
official from the region in Syria where
1:01:15
the US has its bases warned us tonight
1:01:17
that the American withdrawal could give
1:01:19
Isis an opportunity to regroup and come
1:01:22
back now America's partners on the
1:01:24
ground are the Syrian democratic forces
1:01:26
or SDF and they now control around a
1:01:29
quarter of Syria and we have witnessed
1:01:32
the SDF beat Isis back to a few holdouts
1:01:34
in the desert and bring relative
1:01:36
stability to the areas that they control
1:01:39
and that will be more difficult once
1:01:41
those American troops have gone home and
1:01:43
so then what about other potential
1:01:45
consequences for the region well the
1:01:48
American withdrawal could also open the
1:01:50
door to Turkey which has threatened to
1:01:52
launch a military operation in SDF
1:01:54
territory more fighting could bring more
1:01:57
instability to the region also the
1:02:00
American withdrawal could force the SDF
1:02:02
to embrace the Syrian regime as well as
1:02:05
its backers Iran and Russia simply to
1:02:08
ensure their own survival finally the
1:02:10
American withdrawal could send a message
1:02:12
to other groups both here in the Middle
1:02:15
East and elsewhere that the u.s. cannot
1:02:17
be counted on to stand by its partners
1:02:20
it's Jeff
1:02:21
The Hollies so great to get your
1:02:23
perspective tonight thank you okay hold
1:02:25
on a second
1:02:26
she has her conclusion at the end is
1:02:29
that this is some sort of indication
1:02:31
that the United States will not stand by
1:02:33
its partners so I'm asking in this
1:02:37
situation in Syria who are its partners
1:02:40
well the odds of a bunch of ragtag FTF
1:02:43
FDS guys are bright they're not like a
1:02:46
nation-state they're a bunch of guys
1:02:48
that we probably created so who was
1:02:51
whose partners well house is sending a
1:02:53
bad message about us not standing by our
1:02:55
partner interestingly we only have one
1:02:57
partner in the region and that is NATO
1:02:59
member Turkey yeah that's our actual
1:03:02
partner yeah well the turkeys not in
1:03:05
NATO yet you know yes they're not and
1:03:10
they're not in the interview room you
1:03:11
know member that we have to yeah so
1:03:13
we're standing by our partners if we cut
1:03:14
it loose and let them take over it's
1:03:16
just so interesting that we have this
1:03:17
incredible so the reason why I know
1:03:20
there's something going on is when you
1:03:22
get Lindsey Graham you know this still
1:03:25
John McCain holdover and others saying
1:03:28
this is crazy we got to stay in we got
1:03:30
to stay in Syria which you know the
1:03:32
Congress did this is still under the
1:03:33
2001 state of emergency laws that the
1:03:37
president this is bullshit
1:03:39
we shouldn't be there we shouldn't be in
1:03:41
Afghanistan one of our producers sent a
1:03:43
a recommendation for an author I forget
1:03:46
the name of in this book I'll put it in
1:03:48
the show notes need to be in Afghanistan
1:03:49
but the well he says that this author's
1:03:53
concerned in poppies well then his
1:03:56
concept is that perhaps because shale
1:04:01
oil production has reaches its
1:04:03
break-even point that the u.s. really
1:04:05
does not need oil from anywhere we're
1:04:08
going to become the biggest oil producer
1:04:10
that the idea is Trump is possibly
1:04:13
letting it all go
1:04:14
let everyone argue it out and fight each
1:04:17
other and kill each other in the middle
1:04:18
east and will be completely isolated
1:04:20
from that could be it's a simple enough
1:04:23
strategy that he would come up with it
1:04:26
not a bad strategy except for the
1:04:29
poppies that's an issue I mean you got
1:04:30
it you got these are the poppies I
1:04:31
brought they released those four
1:04:34
superstar creeps from Gitmo yeah who we
1:04:38
initially assumed they were released for
1:04:40
a reason and everything s is supposed to
1:04:42
takeover the poppy business but I mean
1:04:44
that was our thesis yeah but have they
1:04:47
done it I don't know I didn't never
1:04:49
heard anything about it but do we need
1:04:51
to still be there guarding the poppy
1:04:53
fields or can they just run this thing
1:04:54
without us well seeing his Trump is
1:04:56
probably not he's in a lot of business
1:04:57
my don't think he's in the in the
1:04:59
narcotics business he doesn't have a
1:05:02
kick I don't think he's been read in on
1:05:03
what we're up to over there he doesn't
1:05:05
have a kick back off of that deal so you
1:05:07
know maybe the people who are protesting
1:05:09
all these things have some some other
1:05:12
agendas that we run we're alone on yeah
1:05:15
well Z money so keep your eye on Turkey
1:05:19
we've always said it I'm sure mark hall
1:05:21
uh I have a call scheduled with him
1:05:23
we're gonna talk soon because he's he
1:05:25
knows everything about this stuff he's
1:05:26
so deep in this Gulen stuff but we'll
1:05:29
see if we can figure out what's
1:05:30
happening with the potentially Gulas
1:05:32
gonna die of old age yeah but it bad no
1:05:36
it still would be very fun to to have
1:05:38
the extradition take place and see what
1:05:40
see the plan unfold and with
1:05:44
unfolding you're not gonna do that I'd
1:05:46
like to thank you for your courage and
1:05:48
say in the morning to you was a man who
1:05:49
put the C in digital Caliphate Jhansi
1:05:52
Dvorak well in the morning to you mr.
1:05:57
Adam Curry and all the ships at scene
1:05:58
boots on the ground feeding the air subs
1:06:00
in the water and all the Dames tonight's
1:06:01
out there in the morning to our
1:06:02
illustrious trolls in the troll room
1:06:05
there there on there troll poles and
1:06:07
helping out as usual you can be a troll
1:06:10
- just go - no agenda stream comm on
1:06:13
Sunday or Thursdays and you can witness
1:06:15
the show live listen to the stream the
1:06:17
pre-show and all of that goodness and
1:06:19
you can troll me also in the morning -
1:06:23
Damon luminarias who brought us the
1:06:25
extremely funny artwork for episode 1095
1:06:29
the title of that was ya know and she
1:06:33
had our no agenda travel kits which as
1:06:35
you know consists of a stick on third
1:06:36
eye googly eye glasses and a terrorist
1:06:39
beard and she put them on on a woman
1:06:43
because there were a couple of people
1:06:44
came up with his idea but she just had
1:06:46
the funniest one for some reason with I
1:06:49
will should maybe remark on the
1:06:51
runner-up or the one that yes the worst
1:06:54
was going up against which was Darrin
1:06:55
O'Neal beautiful which makes it looks
1:06:58
like but I was I think we because it was
1:07:02
if that would be something we could use
1:07:04
as an evergreen when we don't have
1:07:06
something appropriate wasn't that I
1:07:07
don't think that one was that evergreen
1:07:09
it was still pretty specific to this
1:07:10
show but the point was it was O'Neal
1:07:14
falling back on his old formula we've
1:07:17
seen it before too many times with a
1:07:19
little splash thing with a little plug
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as a product for sale it it's not it
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wasn't uniquely different
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okay now I'm talking about the Mike
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Riley won the ya know agenda which was
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just a beautiful piece that's a
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different yeah now only 33 33 yeah but
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it was also it was good it's good a one
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that was that wasn't the problem if the
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problem was it was Zuckerberg yeah
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that's you know it was Zuckerberg in
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we're harsh man people put their all
1:07:54
their love into this and we just break
1:07:56
them down
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well they need
1:07:58
what we think so they site this out the
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whole thing is the artist that's not all
1:08:04
artists do is they try to psych out the
1:08:06
art editor go for this because he likes
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green I understand a little bit so they
1:08:17
can psych us out now the other that one
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you liked a lot which was the big just
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kind of a flamboyant piece I liked it
1:08:23
too is very pretty but it could be used
1:08:25
for a lot of things that Mike Reilly
1:08:27
piece yes it was very pretty anyway no
1:08:29
agenda our generator calm we appreciate
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the work that all of our artists do and
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you can go look at all of that work
1:08:36
again no agenda our generator calm and
1:08:38
you should remember just should remember
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a cheap laughs usually what always wins
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no not usually
1:08:44
we've had situations where there's a
1:08:46
beautiful piece of art that's so well
1:08:48
done that the cheap laughs will lose to
1:08:51
it that the cheap laughs will lose to
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I remember this happening a couple of
1:08:54
times remember this happening a couple of
1:08:56
okay anyway that's all the inside dope
1:09:01
we're gonna give these guys let us thank
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some of our executive and associate
1:09:05
executive producers who have supported
1:09:07
your starting to the year I'm really
1:09:10
appreciating this personally
1:09:11
I'm sure Adam is too so Sir Francis of
1:09:14
SRQ is at the top of the list from
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Arcadia Florida with $1,000 is an insta
1:09:18
something Florida with $1,000 is an insta
1:09:20
oh this is yes he's the one who comes in
1:09:22
every twice a year please accept my
1:09:25
biannual donation for 2018 in amount of
1:09:29
1008 it as follows
1:09:35
always funny when you start that way
1:09:37
yeah hey 7655 will bring me to Earle
1:09:40
status and 120 3.45 is your Christmas
1:09:43
bonus it has been a great year of
1:09:45
deconstruction and as always I
1:09:47
appreciate the effort and dedication
1:09:48
that you two put into the show each week
1:09:50
more importantly I cannot thank you
1:09:53
enough for the many laughs you have
1:09:55
provided me on a daily commute while
1:09:58
also providing me with the invaluable
1:09:59
information on so many topics I wish you
1:10:02
both a wonderful Christmas are very
1:10:03
happy new year please play the best of
1:10:05
sharpton for us and let's be sure to
1:10:07
have some cookies and vodka at the round
1:10:09
table for Santa today yes I've already
1:10:12
added them to the to the feast one final
1:10:16
request I would love to hear a segment
1:10:17
at some point on the various ways that
1:10:19
one can listen to the show I ask because
1:10:22
I tried a few apps in the beginning and
1:10:26
then settle on YouTube premium which
1:10:28
allows me to listen while running other
1:10:31
apps at all or running other apps
1:10:33
running other apps oh sorry
1:10:34
running other apps and it also saves my
1:10:38
location to this in the stream each time
1:10:40
this is a new feature of YouTube the YT
1:10:43
channel is called April not sure who
1:10:45
that he is but I wanted to say thanks to
1:10:47
that person or bot for posting the shows
1:10:50
now adios mofo Sir Francis of SRQ is
1:10:54
Earl of Southwest Florida well here's a
1:10:56
question John the upgrade list so is
1:10:58
yeah I believe so so
1:11:02
why are we on YouTube premium are they
1:11:04
charging you to listen to us is that the
1:11:06
idea I presume premium means that
1:11:11
have no idea what YouTube premium I
1:11:12
think YouTube here's the TV stuff isn't
1:11:14
it the streaming yes but that teacher he
1:11:17
says it right there he's list thanks to
1:11:18
YouTube premium he settled on YouTube
1:11:21
premium right YouTube he listens he
1:11:23
settle in YouTube premium which allows
1:11:25
me to listen while running other apps
1:11:27
yeah to listen while running other apps
1:11:28
thus he listens to the show on YouTube
1:11:29
premium he listens to the show on YouTube
1:11:32
okay an April post yes what April's the
1:11:37
one posted right but I don't omit okay
1:11:40
YouTube is charging money to listen to
1:11:42
us I guess I don't know what's going
1:11:45
I guess hmm yeah well you know what
1:11:47
listen to it any way you want we have
1:11:49
the loaf I know agenda which I think we
1:11:51
have obvious what he wants to know he
1:11:53
wants to know all the outlets and all
1:11:55
the different ways you can listen to the
1:11:56
show god I don't know some of them are
1:11:58
Amish do a paper a giblet and charge for
1:12:01
it we're gonna charge you to tell you
1:12:04
how you can listen that's it Groundhog
1:12:10
Day too
1:12:11
we are watching that was upturned
1:12:13
General Eric Holder a biddies about some
1:12:18
Republicans called are already beating
1:12:22
the drums of war today the Pentagon
1:12:24
refuted that claim and he said the
1:12:27
American people do not want him to quote
1:12:30
twiddling he did not want him dribbling
1:12:34
his thoughts you can get a gig as a
1:12:38
venous fluids and pills coated or with
1:12:41
Colet genetic we don't leave our women
1:12:45
or women women or men in uniform behind
1:12:49
it's a monument to the Eucharist of Dick
1:12:52
Cheney representative role our Labrador
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years of a brute of abuse I personally
1:12:59
apologized to mr. peepers just as soon
1:13:03
to be former Congress with Democrats are
1:13:06
outright giddy the CIA's counter and
1:13:09
counter tourism counterterrorism
1:13:13
secretary Shenzhen skinny why do always
1:13:18
most of the name Shinseki I love my
1:13:23
you've got karma can't resist playing at
1:13:27
that it's just too good does he say
1:13:32
Groundhog Day I think so yeah so I was
1:13:36
thinking about that was doing to stop
1:13:38
the flow here but I've been meaning to
1:13:41
discuss this why he says Gitty
1:13:45
well he means to say giddy he's means to
1:13:48
say giddy but he probably thinks it's
1:13:50
pronounced like jiff yes yes
1:13:53
well reads it off the prompter
1:13:54
interestingly I've been around people
1:13:57
and I'll say I'm
1:13:58
they got all jiggy with it people like
1:14:00
you know it's pronouncing Kitty yes
1:14:07
only Sharpton could make that mistake
1:14:10
yeah you can't go do insane stuff like
1:14:12
that but I'd say it now now it sticks
1:14:14
and getting all shitty they're getting
1:14:16
GT getting GT and if they say so man
1:14:19
that's not the way pronounce it so you
1:14:20
probably say gift too huh
1:14:24
it's pronounced jiff according to the
1:14:27
guy who invented it's pronounced GT
1:14:29
according to the guy who invented the
1:14:31
word al-shara he's invented by all sharp
1:14:35
in the Cypress I'm Chitti over Jean make
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off parts unknown five hundred dollars
1:14:43
this should be tagged to my good friend
1:14:46
Jeffrey Marcy which clears a small debt
1:14:50
to him so we'll be crediting Jeffrey
1:14:52
okay um I'm also told it completes his
1:14:56
long quest for no agenda knighthoods on
1:14:59
from the knighting list talk about a
1:15:00
friend yeah no kidding well Jeffrey now
1:15:04
lives in the Bay Area and thanks again
1:15:06
for the e1 trader karma from the prior
1:15:09
donation which allowed him to have a
1:15:10
global cooling trend in Canada left left
1:15:14
the gold global cooling trend in Canada
1:15:15
behind he's not to be confused with the
1:15:17
only other Jeffrey Marcy the shame
1:15:20
professor of astronomy at Berkeley once
1:15:24
once knighted he wants to be referred to
1:15:27
as Sir Geoffrey B Marcy yes and
1:15:31
hopefully this elevated stats will help
1:15:33
him avoid a precipitous fall from grace
1:15:35
thanks for being one of the only two
1:15:38
podcasts i religiously listened to for
1:15:41
long-term sanity oh goodness now I want
1:15:43
to know what the other one is yeah the
1:15:45
first thing came to my mind too well
1:15:47
thank you very much Jean and
1:15:49
congratulations Jeffrey give us big
1:15:51
boast of karma while we're here you've
1:15:55
got karma Jeffrey Johnson has $338 from
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Port Angeles Port Angeles Washington ITM
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gents excellent show is happy Festivus
1:16:10
to all producers and knights would be
1:16:12
Festivus miracle of Jacey's d held at
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port angeles meet up sometime soon I
1:16:17
could do that we did Seattle it's pretty
1:16:21
far away we're poor damages we gotta
1:16:23
maybe ten people up there just an F
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cancer from my mother who has five weeks
1:16:28
of radiation coming up 73
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you've got karma 333 dollars and 33
1:16:41
cents from anonymous would appreciate a
1:16:43
thorough deed douching for Carl from
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Ormond Beach first
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smokin hot wife let me give her one too
1:16:55
[Music] hot wife let me give her one too
1:16:59
some tennis winning Carmen the Trump
1:17:02
aliens jingle to set up the theme from
1:17:04
the x-files keep up the superlative work
1:17:07
whenever the president finds any aliens
1:17:10
okay any aliens or of any class of
1:17:15
aliens forgot this one whenever the
1:17:20
president finds aliens whenever the
1:17:24
president finds aliens
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[Music] finds aliens
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you've got karma new search program that
1:17:42
new search program that have you seen
1:17:44
this called everything no you want an
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email producer recommended it it's you
1:17:50
can get it from void tools calm holy
1:17:53
crap this search thing is great it's
1:17:55
really helping me find jingles open
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source it's open source
1:18:02
outstanding open source yes open sources
1:18:06
judge Joseph in Louisville Ohio and he
1:18:10
donated $333 flat-out ITM episode 1095
1:18:15
kept my sanity driving six hours to Bad
1:18:17
Axe Michigan that's in the thumb Oh
1:18:21
anyhow I found myself laughing out loud
1:18:24
hearing John's butcher name butcher
1:18:26
names only to have caught father correct
1:18:28
John C Dvorak donations are down so we
1:18:32
need the No Agenda nation to do their
1:18:34
part and chip chip chip in Merry
1:18:37
Christmas John and Adam I want to smack
1:18:39
my brother David aka dude named Ben
1:18:41
currently in Afghanistan in the mouth
1:18:44
all he does has been work and exercise
1:18:48
he'd better be listening to the best
1:18:50
podcast in the universe
1:18:51
jingo request sharpton respect obama all
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gonna die and karma Adam yay
1:19:03
our ESP ICT if you might God you've got
1:19:09
karma dropping down to the associate
1:19:17
executive producer with Shaun coonass
1:19:20
$217 I was hitting the mouth two years
1:19:22
ago by my cousin and have been dragging
1:19:24
my feet about donating he also held off
1:19:26
singing up signing after the news letter
1:19:28
until a week ago the epic newsletter
1:19:30
fail him and my uncle's recent donations
1:19:33
made the final push I needed to stop
1:19:34
freeloading the amount 217 refers to my
1:19:38
birthday and I like two and seventeen
1:19:40
and they're both prime numbers I'm
1:19:42
currently having a little north of
1:19:45
living a little north of Dallas in
1:19:47
Lewisville Texas I teach middle school
1:19:50
Latin and science at a classical School
1:19:53
in the area it can be surprisingly
1:19:55
difficult difficult due to this founding
1:19:58
gaps and knowledge that these students
1:20:00
have and the various behavioral issues
1:20:03
that crop up I've been teaching this age
1:20:05
for the past four years now and from
1:20:07
what I can tell our educational system
1:20:09
is in dire need of reform it seems to me
1:20:13
that we've lost sight of education as a
1:20:15
way of bettering a person and expanding
1:20:17
their mind and now see it simply as a
1:20:19
means to an end mm-hmm these middle
1:20:22
school students and even so many young
1:20:24
people of my generation I'm twenty-five
1:20:26
by the way or so self-absorbed because
1:20:28
they have become accustomed to viewing
1:20:30
people and things from a strictly
1:20:31
utilitarian standpoint the questions of
1:20:34
why are we learning this or when are we
1:20:38
ever gonna use this in life questions
1:20:40
that the kids ask fail to take into
1:20:43
account the border picture of human the
1:20:45
broader picture of human understanding
1:20:46
and development learning Latin is good
1:20:49
in itself as lit by the way I agree with
1:20:52
this I think people should take Latin
1:20:53
learning Latin is good in itself as
1:20:56
Latin is a beautiful language with a
1:20:57
rich history they were I was a Latin
1:21:00
major in college but practically
1:21:01
speaking the linguistic and analytical
1:21:03
capacity it's study instills in the
1:21:05
minds is priceless I could go on but I
1:21:08
feel like this is known as long enough
1:21:10
in us as is and I'm ready hoping to be
1:21:12
able to come to Austin
1:21:14
for the Texas Meetup good calls read
1:21:16
John they you shout out to the rest of
1:21:20
the coonass clan that listen and donate
1:21:22
including Sir Colin the friendly fat man
1:21:24
George uncle George Arthur choline
1:21:27
Stefan etc or Steven I need a D douching
1:21:30
for my jingles could you please play the
1:21:33
Australian prawn song and a drone again
1:21:36
at the end of the show I'd be most
1:21:37
appreciative you've been deduced the
1:21:45
Bobby is not won in a stride yet Cole's
1:21:49
them shrimp now one he drinks that
1:21:53
fosters laga everybody knows it tastes
1:21:58
like shit
1:21:59
[Music] shit
1:22:05
you've got Karma say something everyone
1:22:12
it's become a thing where people are
1:22:16
saying I want this song at the end of
1:22:17
the show I can't do that every time and
1:22:20
it's also you know it's kind of outside
1:22:22
of the scope because I have stuff lined
1:22:24
up and it just becomes too long one of
1:22:27
the things when Adam does his
1:22:29
preparation he prepares the end of the
1:22:31
show because he gets all these clips in
1:22:32
he doesn't have to deal with it during
1:22:34
the show thank you
1:22:36
I can't that's it in a nutshell
1:22:39
yep sometimes he does oh yeah but you
1:22:43
know drone against give us something
1:22:45
extremely long and we don't have a lot
1:22:46
of good stuff yes we have good stuff
1:22:48
today good stuff yes we have good stuff
1:22:48
that's why Taylor Martin $210 of 96
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cents in Deutschland
1:22:55
but in deutschland Christmas so I could
1:23:01
miss on the screen but frohliche
1:23:03
proteges vine often by nokton I've
1:23:07
donated before but I have never received
1:23:09
an official D douching oh we can do that
1:23:13
you've been deduced listen show 970 and
1:23:19
I wanted to give this amount to the show
1:23:20
value for value I want to give this
1:23:24
amount to the show the value the show
1:23:26
has given me over the past year and a
1:23:28
half for the value the show has been
1:23:32
greatly has been greatly recently and
1:23:35
you guys have deconstructed the m5m BS
1:23:38
well the world is a crazy place and it
1:23:41
drove me insane but after I found this
1:23:43
is the common theme that I hope people
1:23:45
appreciate what he's just about to say
1:23:47
the world is a crazy place and it drove
1:23:50
me insane but after I found you guys my
1:23:54
mental health is ten thousand times
1:23:56
better health is ten thousand times
1:23:57
well all we're doing is explaining
1:23:59
stories in a little more detail then the
1:24:02
media wants to explain that because they
1:24:03
want to manipulate you and make you buy
1:24:05
their products advertised on their show
1:24:09
it's good to know that not everyone in
1:24:11
the world is crazy like the mainstream
1:24:12
media is I would like a respect jingle
1:24:16
this is a classic example of the there's
1:24:19
no real reason for this a fractal or not
1:24:22
precise the fact that it's a dynamite
1:24:23
jingle that's what it is but it's just
1:24:26
interesting it's always on this
1:24:27
everything's are the same random number
1:24:28
theory in play
1:24:29
I got ants the intro to I got answer
1:24:33
some good goat Karma for all yes I'm
1:24:37
we're doing the intro John that's why
1:24:40
[Music] doing the intro John that's why
1:24:53
you've got sir Timothy the no fix title
1:25:03
would be a another associate executive
1:25:05
producer from Plymouth Michigan probably
1:25:08
in local one I think for am to read Adam
1:25:12
Reed oh then I can't do the jingles
1:25:15
Yuletide greetings to Adam John and all
1:25:17
no agenda producers no greetings
1:25:19
whatsoever through those who have never
1:25:21
donated I am donating at Christmas to
1:25:23
support the glittering multifaceted Jim
1:25:26
that is no agenda here's why I've gotten
1:25:28
so much value recently one converge of
1:25:32
events I'll cut coverage of events and
1:25:35
media outside the US
1:25:36
I like news from other countries besides
1:25:38
my own to legislative analysis both
1:25:42
inside and outside the US and three
1:25:44
blistering mockery of authoritarians
1:25:47
both on the right and the left
1:25:49
please continue travels abroad in 2019
1:25:51
I'd like this John to spend some time in
1:25:53
Russia we've been trying to get that
1:25:55
motherfucker to Russia for a long time
1:25:57
and Adam in the UK
1:25:59
Merry Christmas please play Kevin Anders
1:26:02
parody of Night Moves with his fake new
1:26:04
song plus Michelle Obama scaring little
1:26:07
kids in a disturbing psycho monster
1:26:09
voice in a disturbing psycho monster
1:26:12
yes you remember they bought the
1:26:14
Michelle one yeah yeah I've got that one
1:26:18
and what was the other one he wanted I
1:26:20
don't know this one yeah life's not a
1:26:23
fake snooze let me see it's been a while
1:26:27
since we've used that one that's Timothy
1:26:29
the no fix title in Plymouth oh here we
1:26:33
go here we go here we go go go yes
1:26:34
here's a little one you come on up
1:26:41
[Music] a little one you come on up
1:26:44
riding up some fake
1:26:49
got to get that jingle created only city
1:27:07
that is from yet 2016 Dwight chicken
1:27:12
Burlington Ontario 201 dollars and 20
1:27:15
cents it has taken me a few years of
1:27:18
listening to the best pod cast in the
1:27:21
universe and I have finally reached the
1:27:23
rank of knighthood I'd like to thank my
1:27:25
brother think he's on the list I like
1:27:26
thank my brother sir Hank
1:27:27
Scorpio for hitting me in the mouth all
1:27:30
those years ago after Sunday's episode
1:27:33
and hearing the children reading their
1:27:35
scripts about how they're terrified
1:27:37
about climate change I could not stop
1:27:40
laughing and need it to donate I think
1:27:42
our point was that it's horrible and
1:27:43
child abuse I'm glad you got a kick out
1:27:45
of this there you go who know now from
1:27:52
my official title I couldn't think of
1:27:54
anything fancy just the white tonight I
1:27:55
like that actually
1:27:56
Dwight the knight it's fantastic and I
1:28:00
would like to request at the roundtable
1:28:02
tea Earl Grey hot ah you know what they
1:28:06
references Earl Grey hot ah you know what they
1:28:09
is that is that a James Bond reference
1:28:11
no Picard oh I'm not this unless 32t
1:28:17
Earl Grey hot can you say computer tea
1:28:22
Earl Grey hot
1:28:24
I think it was a replicator not the
1:28:26
computer that he talked to I can almost
1:28:28
smell and taste I should know these
1:28:30
things and taste I should know these
1:28:31
yeah I should know them everyone should
1:28:32
I can always smell and taste the feast I
1:28:35
will be looking forward to my knighting
1:28:37
ceremony later on in the program if I
1:28:39
could get to know agenda national anthem
1:28:41
at the end of the show it would be great
1:28:43
we could maybe do that at one of the why
1:28:45
don't we why don't we do it now we'd
1:28:46
never we've rarely overall national
1:28:48
anthems thirty-seconds good but sharpton
1:28:52
was a minute no complaints there
1:28:54
[Music] a minute no complaints there
1:29:06
we are also to be human resources and
1:29:17
service statements from these two down
1:29:25
[Music] statements from these two down
1:29:28
we are happy and distracted
1:29:32
[Music] are happy and distracted
1:29:34
are are happy and distracted
1:29:35
I cannot tell you how disappointed I am
1:29:45
that you took a knee during that John
1:29:49
it did not take anything and odourless
1:29:54
roya's Reyes Reyes in Sierra Vista
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Arizona 200 Merry Christmas and Happy
1:30:01
New Year's I keep up the good work man
1:30:04
thank you very much No
1:30:06
okay sir Keith of the Fayette Fayette it
1:30:10
say it nom it Vietnam Vietnam that's
1:30:14
right I remember that in Fayetteville
1:30:17
Arkansas consider this a Merry Christmas
1:30:20
donation consider this a Merry Christmas
1:30:21
simply put keep up the good work and
1:30:24
best wishes for the new year thank you
1:30:27
very much for your courage sir Keitha
1:30:28
Fayette nom that's but not least is our
1:30:30
fabulous Dame Patricia of Biscayne Bay
1:30:34
and after running it or no okay oh so
1:30:37
squirrelmail is not appropriate at this
1:30:39
point or it is and you print it I don't
1:30:44
know man
1:30:48
okay well it's warranted what so I went
1:31:00
to mark per Kells kind of a celebration
1:31:04
of his life thing you know yes it's your
1:31:08
note I never get spam guy who passed
1:31:10
away yes hold on hold on one second okay
1:31:19
so he passed away which yes who I got to
1:31:22
meet is this really a guessing game I
1:31:25
can does inventor of squirrelmail know
1:31:28
yep does inventor of squirrelmail know
1:31:30
who is he who is this mysterious masked
1:31:32
man he calls himself Paul and did you
1:31:36
tell him of your affectation your
1:31:38
affection for the squirrels did he like
1:31:42
it for the squirrels did he like
1:31:42
like what loves it they like that you
1:31:46
were using it that the show actually
1:31:47
that the entire back office of the No
1:31:50
Agenda show runs on squirrel mail I mean
1:31:52
this is hopefully you mentioned that two
1:31:54
women passing I first of all you have to
1:31:59
imagine a really tall bald guy who
1:32:02
invented squirrel mail what you think
1:32:05
his sense of humor would be like if I
1:32:07
gave this discussion to him right yeah I
1:32:09
got you I got you a litte um Jane
1:32:13
Patricia Worthington she sent a
1:32:15
beautiful card as she often does more
1:32:17
cards from some of our people uh and she
1:32:21
always says the card we got two cards
1:32:22
it's all we got so far
1:32:24
I mean in this last mailing wishing you
1:32:27
both a Merry Christmas and a happy
1:32:28
prosperous new year I decided to send my
1:32:30
accounting to give myself a christmas
1:32:32
president of a new title get your pen
1:32:34
out because i didn't not send this to
1:32:35
Eric Oh hold on a second so this is Dame
1:32:38
Patricia Worthington go if I thought
1:32:42
there was a protectorate that would
1:32:44
ensure that South Florida carry out an
1:32:47
election without being a laughingstock I
1:32:49
would ask for it as it is I think I'll
1:32:52
just stick with Biscayne Bay thank you
1:32:55
for being an important part of my daily
1:32:56
life and keeping me on even keel karma
1:33:00
for my kids please and then she
1:33:01
I just need to understand something so
1:33:03
what is the type what what periods level
1:33:05
is she at now she's at okay I have to go
1:33:09
to the purush thing and I'll tell you
1:33:12
which by the way is officially called
1:33:14
the peerage thing that's the peerage
1:33:17
page the peerage page I just like these
1:33:20
things that you you have your very
1:33:21
little respect you need to keep it open
1:33:23
because I have there's something for the
1:33:24
peerage Committee I take it very
1:33:26
seriously and just love that it's also
1:33:29
being run on squirrelmail they believe
1:33:31
it's peerage dot HTM she will be a vicus
1:33:40
VY Countess of Biscayne Bay in Bay
1:33:48
okay Baroness and now she and she could
1:33:51
have expanded her her purview but she
1:33:54
decided to just keep it I'm going to
1:33:56
give her karma in a moment we do have
1:33:57
flex in me to give her karma first thank
1:34:00
you damn map orchids there's a I got a
1:34:07
note for the periods committee from Sir
1:34:08
Corwin Underwood yes I saw this note you
1:34:11
may read it Dear John chairman of the
1:34:14
peerage committee I recently achieved
1:34:16
the status of Baron the Protectorate I
1:34:18
tried to claim was all Southwest Ohio
1:34:20
and it was disputed by another fellow
1:34:22
baron from Ohio sir ladyfingers of Miami
1:34:25
Valley from Ohio sir ladyfingers of Miami
1:34:25
I had feeling my territorial claim was a
1:34:27
little too ambitious therefore I will
1:34:30
respect the rights of sir ladyfingers
1:34:32
and humbly request a gerrymandering of
1:34:35
the district to allow me to claim the
1:34:37
protectorate of the southwest tri-county
1:34:40
area of ha Ohio to include Butler
1:34:43
Hamilton and Warren counties the Miami
1:34:46
Valley is a vast area that runs along a
1:34:48
very long river that passes through both
1:34:49
Butler and Hamilton counties and flows
1:34:51
into the Ohio River however residents
1:34:54
further south on the Great Miami River
1:34:56
don't consider themselves part of the
1:34:58
Miami Valley I have a feeling sir
1:35:00
ladyfingers is a little bit further
1:35:01
north where residents do refer to the
1:35:03
area as the Miami Valley even so sir
1:35:06
ladyfingers can have the Miami Valley
1:35:08
through those respective counties and my
1:35:10
subjects and I will steer far away from
1:35:12
the river area and will remain in the
1:35:14
outlining county areas I seek a ruling
1:35:17
from the peerage committee in this
1:35:18
regard respectfully sir Corwin Underwood
1:35:20
this has been looked over and it's
1:35:24
granted with the proviso that sir
1:35:28
ladyfingers has 30 days to
1:35:33
- to dispute it to refute and yet to
1:35:38
dispute the dis finding after 30 days is
1:35:42
final order in the court
1:35:47
Wow great okay well that's taken care of
1:35:51
good good good everything's although of
1:35:53
course we do encourage barons and their
1:35:55
and their subjects to code to meet up
1:35:59
yeah cooperate with each other you know
1:36:00
you're supposed to all be kind of be in
1:36:02
the same boat so we'll see how that
1:36:04
concludes our list of executive and
1:36:06
associate executive producers for short
1:36:08
1096 want to thank each and every one of
1:36:10
them for helping us produce this show
1:36:12
and advance for the nice cards yes and
1:36:16
merry Christmas to everybody Happy
1:36:17
Hanukkah as well we done with Hanukkah
1:36:19
done we're done I I don't I can't say
1:36:25
that I know and like to thank everybody
1:36:27
for this the support of the program part
1:36:31
of our value for value system you
1:36:32
determine what the show is worth to you
1:36:34
how much value you've received in your
1:36:35
life and in return you receive a credit
1:36:38
in this case in the upper echelon these
1:36:40
are actual credits that can be used
1:36:42
anywhere credits are recognized in the
1:36:43
entertainment business or elsewhere and
1:36:46
we will also be thanking more people in
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our second segment $50.00 and above and
1:36:49
again thank you for your courage and
1:36:50
remember another show coming up on
1:36:52
Sunday vollrath
1:36:54
org slash n hey you've got some
1:36:57
deconstruction to take with you into the
1:36:58
weekend when it comes to new knowledge
1:37:00
so propagate our formula is this
1:37:03
we go out we hit people in the mouth
1:37:05
[Applause] go out we hit people in the mouth
1:37:10
what go out we hit people in the mouth
1:37:13
Wow go out we hit people in the mouth
1:37:15
[Music] go out we hit people in the mouth
1:37:20
did you hear about the person of the
1:37:22
year according to the Financial Times
1:37:25
another person that you're not the same
1:37:27
computer or the protesters or the dead
1:37:30
journalist Person of the Year
1:37:32
now that's Time magazine yeah okay
1:37:34
there's another one there's only one
1:37:36
person at the earth Time magazine well
1:37:37
Time magazine used to count now
1:37:39
everyone's getting into the game
1:37:40
Financial Times has selected George
1:37:43
Soros as its Person of the Year
1:37:47
congratulations George you know
1:37:52
Financial Times is obviously a globalist
1:37:56
publication so I see the humor in what
1:37:58
they're doing I think it's a little wink
1:38:00
you know hey boys try this one on for
1:38:04
size know hey boys try this one on for
1:38:07
okay great like I'd want to get this all
1:38:11
the way I was in the news Larry
1:38:12
discussed a little bit Tucker Carlson
1:38:15
was attacked you know they're trying to
1:38:18
get him off the air because he's a
1:38:19
nuisance no no he's not he's a white
1:38:23
nationalist racist Nazi quadroon to be
1:38:29
exact well let's listen to what
1:38:30
Democracy Now has to say about him in
1:38:32
media news more than a dozen companies
1:38:34
have pulled advertisements from the
1:38:36
program Tucker Carlson tonight after the
1:38:39
Fox News host said immigrants make the
1:38:41
u.s. poorer
1:38:42
dirtier and more divided Carlson made
1:38:45
the comment on his primetime show last
1:38:47
Thursday we have a moral obligation to
1:38:50
admit the world's poor they tell us even
1:38:52
if it makes our own country poorer and
1:38:54
dirtier and more divided following an
1:38:57
uproar over the comment companies
1:38:59
including Land Rover I half Pacific Life
1:39:01
Insurance ancestry.com and just four men
1:39:04
have pulled ads from Carson show Fox
1:39:07
News has accused left-wing groups of
1:39:09
censoring Carlson's program and noted
1:39:11
the advertisers have only shifted their
1:39:13
sponsorship to other Fox News programs
1:39:15
censoring sensitive really accuse them
1:39:18
of censoring is that what he accused
1:39:20
them of just not see but I have a point
1:39:23
is that which this is one of the things
1:39:25
that our listeners should pay attention
1:39:27
to I wrote about in the newsletter and
1:39:28
of course I have the entire clip linked
1:39:31
so you can go listen to bright ways it's
1:39:33
city you can go listen to bright ways it's
1:39:33
it's out of context pretty much because
1:39:36
he was talking to some some dude in
1:39:39
Tijuana and they were specifically
1:39:41
talking about the trash that was left
1:39:43
behind from the caravan or that has been
1:39:46
created by the caravan and that
1:39:48
authority that's where the dirty kept
1:39:50
but I saw Dershowitz on his show
1:39:51
yesterday and der schwarze launched I
1:39:53
should have clipped it really dirty list
1:39:55
to launch this thing my my parents were
1:39:58
called dirty as in dirty Jews but holy
1:40:00
crap that thing took a life of its own
1:40:02
yeah I mean not I don't care what you
1:40:05
think of Tucker Carlson but that's out
1:40:07
of context so leotta cons the whole
1:40:10
thing was out of KY they were just
1:40:11
looking to get him because he's a
1:40:12
nuisance to the left room I don't know
1:40:17
he's very annoying but this is classic
1:40:20
example classic example of advertisers
1:40:22
knuckling on her and by the way the
1:40:24
people that started doing this before
1:40:26
anybody else was the right-wingers the
1:40:28
right-wingers that video this is mostly
1:40:31
a bunch of religious people that form
1:40:33
some groups and they totally ruin the
1:40:37
kids that's right go for years we grew
1:40:40
up with that it was the ultimate it
1:40:42
wasn't political correctness
1:40:43
it was just correctness
1:40:46
um now this does play into the purge and
1:40:50
I want to just discuss this briefly as
1:40:53
there was a a lot of people emailed me
1:40:56
this YouTube video you saw it I'm sure
1:40:58
of Dave Rubin and Jordan Peterson and
1:41:06
linked it in the newsletter okay good
1:41:09
who are leading the charge on the
1:41:12
patreon purge and in this case they are
1:41:15
trying to get everyone to leave patreon
1:41:17
a lot of people are leaving it well let
1:41:20
me just finish and then you're there are
1:41:22
there's some big names who have left
1:41:24
patreon and here's what I found
1:41:27
interesting is that Jordan Peterson
1:41:29
apparently is working on his own
1:41:31
initiative for a payment system for
1:41:35
creators and I would like to say Jordan
1:41:38
Peterson that is the stupidest idea
1:41:40
you've had stay far away from it do not
1:41:43
do not do that it will distract you from
1:41:46
what you're doing it will become a huge
1:41:49
headache it will be a massive failure
1:41:53
it'll be an embarrassment an
1:41:54
embarrassment thank you it is not
1:41:56
something you want to do ultimately it
1:41:59
hears me as my recommendation is not
1:42:01
frictionless but you can get from I
1:42:04
think coinbase you can get a Bitcoin
1:42:06
Visa Card
1:42:06
and so you you you hand out your Bitcoin
1:42:09
wallet address yes people have to find
1:42:12
out how they get Bitcoin to pay you with
1:42:14
it and then they send you the Bitcoin it
1:42:16
shows up on your debit card and then you
1:42:18
can spend it right away that's no good
1:42:20
it's the only way the Bitcoin is the
1:42:22
only option left if for after people get
1:42:25
the platform
1:42:25
they've been payment systems have been
1:42:28
screwing over webcam here's hot shops
1:42:30
PayPal in the bank I know John we're not
1:42:33
controversial nor are we know if someone
1:42:36
gets pissed off about us then we'll have
1:42:38
the same problem bro I don't know about
1:42:41
that bro
1:42:42
yeah I think I think you do know about
1:42:44
that my point is we're not like these
1:42:47
guys we're doing something different but
1:42:49
if we became problem enough then someone
1:42:52
could easily the WikiLeaks de platformed
1:42:55
by paypal mastercard years ago this is
1:42:58
nothing new
1:42:59
but they're idiots if they think oh oh
1:43:01
I've got some technology it'll be Fanta
1:43:04
no no I know there's two things you have
1:43:07
to think about one Jordan Peterson makes
1:43:09
a lot of money on patron he has not been
1:43:11
D platformed no I didn't say he was no I
1:43:14
know but he's acting as though he's
1:43:15
going to be any second when it's not
1:43:17
gonna happen
1:43:18
so there's nonsense so he's like you
1:43:20
know him and Reuben are making a big
1:43:22
scene and they're promoting their tour I
1:43:23
thought the whole thing was so
1:43:24
commercial listening to him and then to
1:43:26
think that there's a thing called core
1:43:28
competence competencies that is the kind
1:43:31
of a mantra in the Silicon Valley and
1:43:33
it's one is when I subscribe to there's
1:43:35
certain things you can do and there's
1:43:37
certain things you can't do and you try
1:43:38
to partner with people that cover your
1:43:41
weaknesses and they cover your weakness
1:43:42
I you know back and forth as what we do
1:43:44
on this show and Jordan Peterson is a
1:43:48
superb speaker or a professor or a guy
1:43:52
can make money off books a best-selling
1:43:54
writer and he has all these he has to
1:43:56
leverage that he's not an entrepreneur
1:43:58
has he ever been an entrepreneur is Dave
1:44:01
Rubin ever been an entrepreneur at the
1:44:03
level that we're talking about here the
1:44:05
patreon guys no no so you're just gonna
1:44:08
fall into a hole just what you said fall
1:44:11
into a hole is gonna you never gonna dig
1:44:13
your way out of it it's a nightmare to
1:44:15
do this unless it's your job yeah and
1:44:19
neither one of these guys that neither
1:44:22
one of them that's not their job Rubin
1:44:24
is an interview or and he likes to put
1:44:26
together these shows he's a producers at
1:44:27
a broadcasting type guy and Peterson's a
1:44:30
professor poor foot professorial guy you
1:44:33
just can't anybody seen this over the
1:44:34
years especially if you're running this
1:44:36
area well here here's an example scott
1:44:38
adams take that as your example scott
1:44:41
adams has been pushing his app and it's
1:44:43
and no one knows what it does it doesn't
1:44:45
work it works it's cuz this is not what
1:44:49
he does scott adams isn't even the best
1:44:52
example the best example is al gore now
1:44:55
how about Adam Curry's podcaster Pro how
1:44:57
about that as an example
1:45:01
that's not a very good example because
1:45:03
you've done a lot of little companies
1:45:04
and you're always tinkering you're like
1:45:06
an old retired guy
1:45:07
tinker tinker tinker this is a core
1:45:11
competency of yours so no that doesn't
1:45:13
count okay thank you I feel better now
1:45:16
ripped off completely and they have a
1:45:19
complement and they haven't sent me a
1:45:21
demo unit that's the egregious part made
1:45:24
copy number one yet I think that whole
1:45:26
thing is it no no no there's a guy from
1:45:28
know they're demoing it on on YouTube
1:45:30
there's about 20 videos showing how it
1:45:32
works okay well I don't see they're in
1:45:34
massive production they should be giving
1:45:36
us both a copy yeah a copy but just
1:45:39
point is is that the these two guys are
1:45:44
living in a dream world if they things
1:45:47
are gonna go off and create a competitor
1:45:49
to patreon exactly which was not a good
1:45:51
idea to start with and I will remind
1:45:53
everybody when you see don't even like
1:45:54
patreon so why would you want to make a
1:45:56
copy now when we when we started No
1:45:59
Agenda social calm a mastadon instance
1:46:01
as it's known in the hip marketing
1:46:03
language of nerds was a year and a half
1:46:06
ago now at least two years maybe can
1:46:08
maybe two years so the fuck was my point
1:46:13
you were talking about okay there please
1:46:16
your last few would be on this because I
1:46:18
can't remember what you what it was what
1:46:19
did you just I said that we didn't even
1:46:23
like patreon oh ok remember so when we
1:46:26
started no agenda social calm what
1:46:29
happened was yeah of course a couple of
1:46:32
producers started engaging with social
1:46:35
justice warriors on you know the big
1:46:37
mastodon calm or whatever