January 3rd, 2019 • 2h 46m
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you are the gadfly of Silicon
Valley
Adam curry this is no agenda in
the
morning everybody hi Madame
Curie and
from northern Silicon Valley
where 1100
is a lucky number
I'm Jesse Devorah lucky
according to
lucky people ah really
all right
well Happy New Year John Happy
New Year
do you happy news all the
producers yes
and boots and sea ships feet on
the
ground exactly what now you
celebrated
Christmas yes the Dvorak family
never
ceases to amaze traveling
around you
know the kids are open skiing
and so we
had their wait to learn we got
together
ok what did you get
I got a bunch of just a lot of
miscellany a but including of
number of
things that I've been I guess
hinting
about um I also got a lamp that
I needed
a big one but including
verjuice and a
bunch of what kind of juice
what kind of
juice verjuice ver heavy er
juice what's
verjuice it is the juice of
unripened
grapes Don do you make wine out
of that
no no no you use it like a
vinegar
substitute Oh such a sour
should have
read the book
I know well I spent New Year's
Day
actually the 31st and New
Year's Day and
yesterday rebuilding my surface
gold
laptop tablet thing ah that
wasn't that
was a nightmare so how do you
rebuild it
you just well our chance to
screen put a
new keyboard on it this is what
happened
you know when I got that thing
was
somewhere in between the 1803
and 1804
update and I got it and then
retracted
it and so anyway at a certain
point the
you know the the 31st I turned
on the
morning boom Master Boot Record
corrupted blue screens I have
this
Acronis product which will help
me
restore no problem and I that
you were
supposed to be able to restore
from the
cloud well I bet you that
worked great
it would have worked great were
it not
that the product here's the
problem the
way it works is you use their
software
and then it's gonna reboot and
then it
goes into some low-level thing
and then
it'll suck everything down from
the
cloud and restore it which I
think does
actually work
unfortunately the product is
looking for
your network interface card
your NIC
card at a very low level and
the surface
only has a USB C and Wi-Fi so I
had an
Ethernet dongle but it won't do
that it
doesn't recognize it yeah she's
looking
low-level and then it say oh I
can't
find one and then it just
restarts or
tries to restart so you have a
code on
it no it's it's not low-level
enough it
has to be somehow you know
different
like an internal card not an
external
thing well that's a security
thing
obviously yeah well it was not
great
hold on a second yeah here's
the problem
with it would say was you're
being nice
about this mm-hmm
it seems to me that you went to
the
cloud through that device
eventually yes eventually yeah
but when
you went to the cloud to move
the stuff
there oh yes it uploaded it no
problem
sure well if it uploaded it
should have
seen at the time at that moment
it
should have looked for this did
this
low-level number and said
serial number
said hey wait a minute this is
something
different and then quiz the
machine you
know okay okay we'll put it
we'll put an
exception flag up yeah ten of
that and
so when he asked that do the
read the
reload no problem it shouldn't
be a
problem at all it was so white
why
wasn't that accomplished is the
question
I'd be asking
yeah well the I've left some
support
notices your product is and
does not
work does not work on this
particular
day now it works with a with a
hard
drive backup but I already did
that of
the studio machine I've cloned
the drive
of the machine after every show
so if
there's a problem I just swap
out the
drive we're back on the air but
I had
kind of built this thing up my
life was
in it but although all my files
were
available on the cloud I did
have to
reinstall windows 10 and rebuild
everything and you know what
that's like
registration codes anyway so
spent a lot
of time on there she met
registry issues
though all kinds of stuff but
man the
thing is much faster once I put
Windows
10 on and again thinking I
don't know
maybe because I had the messed
up
updated thing ah yeah I can see
that
actually I think I believe it
has
happened yeah and it BitLocker
that's
where it is a bit Locker that's
what
screwed me up
troll room knows what it is so
my first
real um disaster recovery with
Windows
the first of many I'm sure but
at least
I know what not to do
to trust the damn cloud stupid
ugly
stupid yes a number of
interesting
events New Year's Eve
in the Netherlands you know if
people
never been to the Netherlands
and
certainly not around new years
the Dutch
are very docile quiet calm
people
but around New Year's and it's
legal
people go apeshit and they let
it all
out and they do that with
fireworks
you're allowed to buy fireworks
set them
off anywhere shoot them at
people and
shoot them at people and here's
a
facebook video with just a
little
compilation Knoll thing is like
five
minutes just about 45 seconds
and this
is made up of YouTube video so
it's not
a you know not a professionally
produced
piece but it's just YouTube
videos you
did indeed just witness a man
fire
rocket from his ass cheeks to
you this
might seem a little crazy or
even
borderline and singing but to
the Dutch
it's just another New Year's
the Netherlands 364 days of the
year is
quite peaceful normally the
closest the
average Dutch he gets to war or
or loss
is a Picacho or loss on the
31st of
December this all changes their
most
beloved New Year's tradition is
making
their safe little country like a
[Music]
I get the idea I mean is that my
favorite is always the car bite
milk
cannons you know they got the
big metal
milk containers yeah with the
top on it
and so they Jam it full of is
it car car
bite is that it curb violence
yeah
anyway this year which I think
has
happened before they build a
big bonfire
on the beach of spinning it and
they
make it out of wooden pallets
and this
year they decided to go for a
record a
150 feet high
Tower of pallets what could
possibly go
wrong so they they light this
thing
New Year's Eve and because of
you know
the kind of the funnel nature
it it
created what they're calling
the fire
NATO and this is the wind
caught it just
in a you know spiraled up
through this
through this 150 foot structure
and
spewed out flaming you know
bits all
over the city because of course
the wind
turned there were rooves
catching on
fire people's clothing on
fighters
walking down the streets
they're on fire
yeah you think that they'd pass
some
legislation concerning this you
can't
mess with the Dutch when it
comes to
what they do on New Year's they
get
insane they need it's like they
need it
they need it they need to blow
stuff up
and get all the aggression if
they put
the clamps on that they'd be a
little
more aggressive during the rest
of the
year sure they would so anyway
record
number of fires all over the
country
people destroying stuff it's
very very
sad what happens what goes on
in the
Netherlands
sounds like Auckland in France
McCall
had his New Year's address
where he made
very sure that everyone
understood that
what's going on is not just
people who
are unhappy but it's clearly
terrorists
and other horrible people
right-wingers
I guess French president
Immanuel McCoy
has used his New Year's Eve
speech to
acknowledge the anger which has
exploded
in the country but warmed
extremist
elements some take as a pretext
that
they speak in the name of the
people but
what people where how in
reality given
there are nothing but to make a
phone
for a crowd full of atreus rail
against
elected representatives force
of other
journalists Jews foreigners
almost
sexual that's the negation of
the people
who were actually protesting
hate Jews
homosexuals migrants okay
there's no
pissed-off Frenchman I guess
that's bull
crisp as jean provocateurs a
little
twisted slant to the news in
the u.s. we
had
a joke gone kind of wrong
Strategic
Command which oversees
America's nuclear
and missile arsenal has apollon
this is
a Japanese television reporting
choice
for tweeting that it was ready
if
necessary to drop something
much much
bigger than the New Year's Eve
countdown
ball the annual countdown in
New York's
Times Square
uh sure Zinn the New Year with a
brightly lit ball descending
down a
special flagpole the message
was posted
with a video of a b-2 stealth
bomber
dropping bombs the tweet was
deleted
after drawing a wave of
criticism and
replaced with an apology that
said the
previous tweet was in poor
taste and did
not reflect the commands values
yeah yet
does somebody's values
reflected them
perfectly as far as I'm
concerned
exactly what our values are war
stuff
yeah did you see any of the
television
shows that were that were on
during New
Year's I flipped a few of them
flipped
around a few of them I gave up
I mean it
was like second-rate bands Jenny
McCarthy announcing these
people had
never heard of any of them a
lot of
lip-synching crap and people
jumping up
and down and it was just like
no it was
terror I've got me it was
unwatchable
yes CNN did their annual
Anderson
Cooper's drunk with somebody
else and
for this it was at the second
or third
year in a row Andy Cohen gay
production
television production icon
producer of
The Real Housewives series and
yeah
there's only it was 40 degrees
and rain
it's really miserable in New
York when
it's like that it's just
miserable in
there and so they're drinking
their did
and it was just all gay jokes
just gay
gay gay and then share call
then was
just gay or than gay like okay
can we
have a dumb look just something
different for a second no is not
possible switch to NBC
there's Carson Daly and he's
hosted
co-hosting with him is John
Legend's
wife what's her name Christy
tigon
kuu is a model and I think she
jumped
the shark man you know these
people
should not be hosting anything
talking
about vaginal steaming and the
you know
at quarter to midnight when
families
might be watching and then they
they
they succeeded to miss the ball
drop
shot they missed the actual
last three
it's unbelievable it was really
bad and
I yearned for Dick Clark you
know just
just boring make it boring put
some put
some some guests on show a
party no they
force all these performers to
perform in
the rain with their you know
with just
their their their their regular
track
date backing tape CPS pulled
the plug on
all this stuff notably regular
programming yeah they probably
got
better ratings it was just a
shit show
but here's here's what blew me
away did
you know that New York Times
Square
and China specifically the city
of
Chongqing it pretty much
commercialized
the whole celebration at Times
Square it
was a complete bought and paid
for
Chinese operation oh and they
had a
stage that had the main stage
they had
their own telecast and yeah a
couple
hours before midnight the score
the
Times Square wasn't it already
New
Year's the day before in China
here's a
couple of clips from this from
this
presentation welcome to Times
Square
2019 the Koba celebration at the
crossroads of the world please
direct
your attention to the top of
one Times
Square as representatives of
Chongqing
China and Times Square New
Year's Eve
flip the switch the light the
New Year's
Eve Ball so they powered the
ball this
year
the city of Chongqing powered
the ball
and they had more Lily that
dragon dance
earlier was so beautiful and
despite all
the rain they still rocked it
perfectly
was very impressive definitely
thank you
very much
the show just came from China
the city
of Chongqing and the is culture
history
has really inspired it to
become a major
international City and the
center of
industrial and automotive
innovation
look at the car right there in
Han
Square Chinese piece of junk
twirling
around we got beautiful cars
for you I
found this to be rather
flabbergasting
that the Chinese just own New
Year's Eve
on Times Square and come visit
us please
sounds amazing and I would
rather go to
Chongqing in 2019 I'd love to
go to
China
yeah it's a good idea to you
know
Constantine have over 80
international
direct flights connecting with
the world
including the city of New York
and I oh
shit la I touched it AOA and
then they
had the Ambassador to Chung
Chung King
on hand he gave a little New
Year's
greeting hello I encourage all
of you to
visit the China in 2019 reach
out to
each civilization and make more
Chinese
of friends in this gobo age our
global
village and then the final guy
they
brought on was I don't even
know who he
was he was important you know
this you
know do you got it there's like
five
Chinese officials standing that
I don't
know who they were they had
their route
you know just standing at
attention and
this guy okay it's time for him
to come
over he comes over boughs grabs
the mic
now I would like to you might a
walking
boy
to share his greetings with us
coming
for you all
she never liked the baby the
two got
some change
Santa Santa actually seen yet
one hope
some change
Sissoko create our intercessor
Geo
Santana you Judas the same way
in battle
Constantine yo Sasha went sumo
poetry
puro go synteny Sawada oh
that's what
that we said what kill ye o man
yeah
Times Square 2019 owned by
China no one
mentioned that
well they weren't about to
measure the
Chinese no I can't even I think
that
town that Sean Xin whatever it
is is uh
what's one of those ramanga
cities
decisive Shanghai in the middle
of
nowhere
yes that's what they got a dead
a
promotional video and
everything you can
go if anyone wants to go there
I'd
recommend it but you have to
remember
you're gonna be the only white
person
there alright we've gone either
I black
listener maybe maybe you're a
black guy
yeah do steel right at home by
the way
yeah if you're anything if
you're Latino
you be the only Latino there
I don't know it looks like
there's a lot
of trade going on I bet there's
a lot of
there's a lot of trade you a
lot of
foreign there's a lot of
foreigners in
fact I got some only thing I
have that's
kind of interesting right along
those
lines is Boston ro Boston an ro
the
Brazilian guy oh yes gonna do
he's doing
a bilateral deal with China
he's Brazil
is gonna be she's gonna be till
the
Chinese goods play Boston rof
24 next on
his first day in office
Brazil's that
new president Jay el bolson ro
has got
straight down to work issuing a
series
of decrees on the economy
agriculture
and the society both Naro
former Army
captain was sworn in on Tuesdays
Brazil's first far-right
president since
the military dictatorship gave
way to
civilian rule back in 1985 the
country's
new leader was elected on a
promise of
cleaning up Brazilian politics
and has
the Justice Minister has been
bolstered
up to fight grasp and battle
urbanized
crime listen to Elliott reports
from
Brasilia today he met with the
US
Secretary of State also a
former Army
captain Mike Pompeo described a
new
transformative relationship
with Brazil
and he then went on to meet
Brazil's new
foreign minister where they
discussed
the issue of Venezuela now
Boston ro is
a nationalist he is an avid
user of
social media and of course he
despises
political correctness so
comparisons
have often been drawn between
him and US
President Donald Trump but
really Brazil
historically while it's had
cordial ties
with the u.s. they've been
nonetheless
fairly fairly cold fairly Feli
not very
profound really Brazil has
focused its
energy on bilateral trade with
China
China is now Brazil's biggest
trading
partner and it'll be
interesting to see
how that trade dynamic plays
out given
the trade war between the US
and China
already China is buying more
Brazilian
soya beans to offset American
trade
tariffs bastards
they're cutting our business
yeah is
this is this guy Bo Sona Boston
ro
Boston ro
is he considered right-wing I
just heard
a Nazi oh yes okay got it got
it got it
got it big fan of the oldest
military
dictatorship hmm something of
an a-hole
but in the course the way
democracy now
have a second clip presents it
also gets
is put in a little piece of
propaganda
god this is a shorter clip but
this is
just hi actually I want to make
this a
quiz see oh no no don't make
this a quiz
I got another quiz for you but
just
listen to the way Amy likes to
slip in a
little propaganda going to
restore order
in this country we are aware of
this
awesome ability adn yeah
okay it's very short is very it
21
seconds yeah yeah okay going to
restore
order in this country we are
aware of
this awesome responsibility and
the
challenges that we will face we
know
where we want to go and the
potential
that Brazil has many fear
Brazil's young
democracy is now at risk for
years
Bolson otto has praised
Brazil's former
military dictatorship while
speaking in
favor of torture and
threatening to
destroy him prisoner banished
his
political opponents
nah I'm not sure what I was
supposed to
hear well what it was it went
on IG
clipped it poorly sorry no it
went on to
go on about how bowling she may
never
met with the Boeing guy and the
new
veneer the DoD Department of
Defense yes
the new Boeing guy was a
munitions
company oh she did that again
yeah
oh yes didn't didn't we play
that last
time it was a different clip
does it
over and over she keeps doing
that how
Boeing is just a weapons
company it's
true it while true that
typically isn't
what you say no it's not how
you do know
there's a weapons company jet I
was
thinking about the the DoD
audit and how
long this has been going on and
and you
know just just what the hell is
is
happening with our Department of
Defense's where all our money
goes every
single drop of it pretty much
700
billion dollars and I found a
report
that has been going on for a
long time
from 2005 when Rumsfeld was
he was the Secretary of Defense
Donald
Rumsfeld under Bush and this is
you'll
recall September yes September
10 2001
we found out that 2.3 trillion
dollars
was missing or was unaccounted
for at
the Department of Defense and I
think in
this clip they even mentioned
that that
was just for one year only that
wasn't
you know for a couple years
that was one
year I don't understand how
that works
but I just want to play this
this report
from CBS from 2005 had agon the
day
before 911 Defense Donald
Rumsfeld
declared war not on foreign
terrorists
the adversaries closer to home
it's the
Pentagon bureaucracy
he said money wasted by the
military
poses a serious threat in fact
it could
be said that it's a matter of
life and
death
Rumsfeld promised change but
the next
day the world changed and in
the rush to
fund the war on terrorism the
war on
waste seems to have been
forgotten my oh
three budget calls for more
than I like
how they called the war on
waste instead
of the war on theft but okay 48
billion
dollars in new defense spending
more
money for the Pentagon when its
own
auditors admit the military
cannot
account for 25% of what it
already
spends according to some
estimates we
cannot track 2.3 trillion
dollars in
transactions 2.3 trillion with
a tea
that's $8,000 for every man
woman and
child in America to understand
how the
Pentagon can lose track of
trillions
consider the case of one
military
accountant who tried to find
out what
happened to a mere 300 million
we know
it's gone but we don't know
what they
spend it on Jim Murray a former
marine
turned whistleblower is risking
his job
by speaking out for the first
time about
the millions he noticed we're
missing
from one defense agency's
balance sheets
memory tried to follow the
money trail
even Criss crossing the country
looking
for records the director looked
at me
says why do you care about this
stuff
I care about doing a good shot
he was
reassigned and says officials
then
covered up the problem by just
writing
it off they gotta cover it up
that's
where the corruption comes in
they've
got to cover up the fact that
they can't
do the job
the Pentagon's Inspector General
partially substantiated several
of
memories allegations but could
not prove
officials tried to manipulate
the
financial statements twenty
years ago
Pentagon employee Franklin C
Spinney
made headlines exposing what he
calls
the accounting games I'm still
there and
although he does not speak for
the
Pentagon he believes the
problem has
gotten worse those numbers are
pie in
the sky that books are cooked
routinely
year after year after year
retired Vice
Admiral Jack Shanahan commanded
the
Navy's second fleet the first
time
Donald Rumsfeld served as
defense
secretary with good financial
oversight
we could find 48 billion
dollars it was
changed in that building
without having
to hit the taxpayers it's been
going on
for a while I forgot about it
how long
it's been going on that we
don't know
what forever and there was once
gets the
biggest scandal in the country
nobody
seems to want to pay attention
to it
nobody discusses it it's not on
the
campaign trail you don't hear
Elizabeth
Warren talking about it there
was a
Democrat who made a big stink
about this
and subsequently pretty much got
disappeared from life do you
remember
who that was a woman
no not offhand
makini
makini yes from Georgia
Democrat oh the black Democrat
McKinney
she made a fuss secretary
according to
the Comptroller General of the
United
States there are serious
financial
management problems at the
Pentagon to
which mr. Cooper alluded fiscal
year
1999 two point three trillion
missing
fiscal year 2000 1.1 trillion
missing
and the OD is the number one
reason why
the government can't balance his
checkbook the Pentagon has
claimed year
after year but the reason it
can't
account for the money is
because it's
computers don't communicate
with each
other
my second question mr.
secretary is who
has the contracts today to make
those
systems communicate with each
other how
long have they had those
contracts and
how much have the taxpayers
paid for
them thank you representative
the second
question I've forgotten what
the second
question was I think miss Jonas
knows it
okay thank you Miss we Kenny I
appreciate the question I
appreciate
your interest in the
department's
financial condition and we are
working
very hard on that program I
just come
back I understand that you're
working
hard on it my question was who
has the
contract how long has that they
had that
contract and how much money
have we
spent on it
in general we spend about 20
billion
dollars in the department on
information
technology systems the the
accounting
systems are part of that I can
get you
the exact number for the record
of what
we spend on our current what we
call
legacy systems
and those that were moving
toward and
who has the contracts
that would be a multitude of
individuals
that you name sound please well
I think
that's the top of the head well
I would
that's not privileged
information
look please we still have time
so please
I would be glad to provide for
the
record I don't want to talk
from the top
of my head correct yes so they
were
spending 20 billion dollars on
their
bookkeeping legacy systems in
two
thousand five or six this is
and Cynthia
McKinney
I think she's teaching at the
University
of Bangladesh and I'm not
kidding I'm
not kidding she's just gone
this is the
real problem I said was the
problem yeah
yeah it's it's the problem it's
stealing
our money that's it around
their buddies
and then kind of losing track
of it
obviously and this kind of to
lose track
of it to steal it and it cuts
but it is
it's tough to your rights theft
not
waste and it plays into the
newsletter
in a way what's the newsletter
about
what's-his-face
everyone's talking about his
op-ed you
slam dreamt Romney Mitt Romney
Mitt
Romney or monger oh listen to
this I
wanna play this little bit
here's guys
Mitt Romney is a dick
he's a total douchebag I don't
want to
play this is talking about the
academic
industrial military complex I
have this
brute Bruce Ackerman this Bruce
Akram is
a professor at Yale and he was
on France
24 and he is branding the woman
is fed
up with him and he's ranting
about Trump
and he makes it he I will you
have to
listen to this is what the
academia
actually believes this is the
grant
number one President Trump has
proudly
taken responsibility for this
shutdown
everyone recognizes everyone
recognizes
that this is entirely
unnecessary only
to just today the new leader
the new de
facto leader of the Senate Mitt
Romney
wrote an opinion essay in The
Washington
Post condemning this as merely
posturing
and unnecessary everyone
recognizes that
President Trump is trying to
show the
world that he is still in
charge when he
isn't you know of course not we
know
who's really in charge the guys
with the
guns
we have Mitt Romney somehow
before even
takes office as Lee is the
leader he's a
junior senator who's gonna
suffer from
this by the way these guys this
doesn't
go over well with Matt with the
people
that are the leadership of
these up but
he's hot these traditional
houses I mean
that's what happened in fact I
just
wanted to jump around with that
theme
but today you have a Bruce
Ackerman to
clip where she runs him off
play that
but then I have to play one
other clip
UK held in a meeting now with
the
Democratic and Republican
leadership but
he has not actually reached out
them out
to them in advance to ask to
negotiate
terms you just don't bring them
into the
Situation Room in the White
House and
then expect to have a deal
without
preparatory preparatory
negotiations so
if the if unless he caves in in
an
obvious way unfortunately
my prediction is that this
shutdown will
continue for a while until he
recognizes
that he is making a fool of
himself
okay Bruce Ackerman your
professor at
Yale University thanks to your
time
today
yeah thanks dang guy by the way
is
responsible for the social
justice
warrior movement really I think
so he
should take a public speaking
class
while he's at school it's like
one
lecture but back to Romney I
want to
play this clip this is Romney
already
mouthing off on Democracy Now
incoming
Republican senator Mitt Romney
of Utah
writes president Trump has not
risen to
the mantle of the office in a
New Year's
Day the mantle let's just stop
there for
a second the mantle that's a is
that not
something that we used to refer
to kings
and the Pope you know the
mantle I am
wearing my mantle of ruler
shit yeah so why does Romney
consider
that to be a mantle or does he
think
Trump wants it to be mantle and
doesn't
know how to dotted wear it I
mean which
one is it I don't know I would
like to
have somebody out there to get
me the
genesis of why Romney hates
Trump to his
core
it's probably more personal than
anything the office in a New
Year's Day
op-ed published by The
Washington Post
Romney says he supports Trump's
policies
including tax cuts deregulation
appointment of conservative
judges to
federal court but Romney says
Trump has
failed to show honesty and
integrity as
president writing quote with
the nation
so divided resentful and angry
presidential leadership and
qualities of
character is indispensable and
it is in
this province where the
incumbent
shortfall has been most glaring
Romney's
among the freshmen members of
Congress
set to be sworn in by Vice
President
Mike Pence on Thursday um
Romney and his
little laundry list there
specifically
mentioned lowering taxes right
mm-hmm
here's here's Romney on
lowering taxes
in 2012 just a few years ago
that we can
afford to do a little bit more
to make
sure we're not blowing up the
deficit
the president began this
segment so I
think I get the last word so I
well but
but he gets the first word of
that
segment I get the last word
that's I let
me repeat let me repeat what I
said
I'm not in favor of a five
trillion
dollar tax cut that's not my
plan my
plan is not to put in place any
tax cut
that will add to the deficit
boom yeah
yeah so the guy's full of crap
of course
he also did say famously that
Russia was
the real problem
even though it isn't he was
already on
that tip way ahead of the game
yeah he
was true he'd read they'd read
him in a
little too soon too soon I have
a clip
of Romney where was he at on
some show
addressing the mantle etc and
listen to
the globalist words and terms
that he
uses particularly in regarding
what the
United States is because
according to
Romney we own it all the world
it's ours
you said that you were dismayed
by
President Trump's decision in
December
to pull troops out of Syria
which
resulted in the resignations of
mattis
and the special envoy to the
global
coalition to defeat Isis Brett
McGurk
the prattle the president says
we need
to get out of these foreign
entanglements and that's what
he ran on
what why is he making a mistake
well the reason that we're
involved in
the world is to make the world
safer
which is good for the world and
good for
us okay because we trade with
places
throughout the world we sell
products
throughout the world ah ah ha
we sell
products war products people
come and go
into our various countries and
we share
not only culture but education
technology innovation - whoa
did you
hear what he said listen
carefully to
this because we trade with
places
throughout the world we sell
products
throughout the world people
come and go
into our various countries and
we share
not only people come and go
into our
various countries various
countries call
this guy has because we trade
with
places we sell products
throughout the
world people come and go into
our
various countries and we share
not only
culture but education technology
innovation and so having a a
stable
world where we can conduct a
trade is a
very good thing for us and for
the world
okay he's talking about trade
trade
buying and selling our
countries trade
trade buy and sell trade and
and so
we're in Syria with a very small
footprint about 2,000 people
clearly to
trade to help our allies there
the Kurds
to trade and in some respects
to provide
some stability to that region
so that
Assad or air21 or the
the you know the the Iranians
don't rush
in and slaughter people I'm
sorry yeah
aren't the Turks in NATO aren't
they our
allies now you're worried about
them
slaughtering people and and
hurting our
allies slaughter our allies
slaughter
our allies the Turks so so so
pulling
out on a precipitous basis
without
interacting with em and and
coordinating
this with them and getting the
input for
instance from secretary mattis
is
something which i think is very
troubling to me and to a number
of
others just that just wants to
sell more
war stuff that guy is the worst
he is
how did he ever became the
nominee for
the Republican mine it is one
on me
money money
this guy's loaded you have
money you can
you can run parts of the country
when dislike money yeah
Bloomberg money
yeah Bloomberg wants to run - I
got to
put him on the list and he's
gonna run
under the midget party Oh God
don't do that there are short
people who
listen to the show you know I'm
sorry
everybody I really feel bad
about
meanwhile Oh Cassie Alexander
Ocasio
Cortez is making waves herself
yeah this
is very interesting but first
of all she
didn't get her committee her
selected oh
I have the clip good let's do
this
Pelosi cuts off AOC at the
knees climate
activists pushing for the
creation of a
green new deal committee when
Democrats
take control of the House this
week were
met with disappointment Friday
when
presumptive incoming House
Speaker Nancy
Pelosi announced the creation
of another
environmental panel instead the
Select
Committee on the crime climate
crisis is
set to be led by long-standing
Florida
Congress member Cathy castor
proponents
of the green New Deal have
argued the
panel will be too weak as it
will not
have legislative power and may
not have
subpoena power the proposal for
a green
new deal also sought to bar
Congress
members who accept money from
the fossil
fuel industry I think maybe
sighs not
just knees boom boom boom done
get out
he's not happening AOC and AOC
is
fighting back partner she
fights back
the worse it's gonna be for her
along
with the ROE Khanna a Democrat
from
California Oh rogue they are
opposing
the new rules package now I had
to look
in this because there wasn't
quite
familiar with it but the way
the House
of Representatives works is
they have
rules because you know they're
basically
they hold the purse strings so
they
determine who gets money and
you know
how much and where it goes
and they have a rule and one of
the
rules is currently under the
trump
administration it's called cut
go
so anything you want to spend
some warm
you want to spend some money
over here
you want to spend more money
than we
have you have to cut something
else
called cut go the Democrats
want to
change the rules which needs to
be voted
on by the whole house to Pago
Pago and
the pay-go rules means you have
to be
able so you don't cut but you
have to
have the money to pay for it
so that could come from many
many
different places but what
you're not
allowed to do under Pago is
just print
up money and that of course
doesn't fit
with the aoc plan because she
has said
even in a grooved green New
Deal the way
they're gonna pay for it is the
way we
paid for the Great Recession by
printing
up the money and when I think
we printed
up a trillion or two trillion
for that
and so she's going to vote
against the
rules package they owe that I
think you
don't then with it need like 18
to votes
to be against the rules package
and then
it won't pass it'll stay cut go
which
means even though the Democrats
will
have the house the rule will
remain in
place that if they want to
spend money
somewhere it has to be cut
somewhere
else so Cortes is really on the
she's
she's on the edge with this one
who she
can if she can get a couple
more people
to to participate
she's a troublemaker but I
think she's a
troublemaker I think it's fun
to watch
it's incredibly fun to watch if
she
really knows how Pelosi
operates no not
yet
she'll find out oh geez
daughter had
some comets that they recorded
locally
saying that's this she's the
documentary
filmmaker is not proposed whose
daughter
does be she says my mom could
cut your
head off and you wouldn't even
know
you're bleeding yeah and her
head is
gone and her head is gone
all right so that didn't care
of what
did I notice is one thing
that's not
being played in our news at all
and that
is the the old bromide the
Chinese like
to use when they get into
trouble mm-hmm
with us which is uh threatened
Taiwan oh
yes yes yes
French 24 this China China
Taiwan heats
up reunification is inevitable
she's in
pings message to Taiwan 40
years after
China ended its military
confrontation
with the island now the Chinese
president says use of force is
still on
the table
we're willing to negotiate
sincerely and
expand all our efforts in
striving for
the prospect of peaceful
reunification
ng woman but we do not promise
to
renounce the use of force and
reserve
the right to use all necessary
measures
Taiwan has never formally
declared
independence but has been self
governed
since 1949 when the
Nationalists fled to
the island after losing China's
Civil
War to the Communist Party
thirty years later in 1979
China made a
call for unification and ended
its
routine bombardment of the
island but
Beijing continues to see Taiwan
as a
rogue province and in recent
years has
conducted regular military
drills in the
region xi Jinping wants Taiwan
to come
under the same one country two
systems
policy as Hong Kong and Macau
not a
proposition rejected by the
Taiwanese
president I have to reaffirm
that Taiwan
will never accept the one
country two
systems policy and the majority
of
Taiwanese people will never
accept that
either the glances meanwhile
China has
been using diplomatic and
economic
pressure to sideline Taiwan on
the
global stage last year Beijing
convinced
El Salvador and the Dominican
Republic
to cut diplomatic ties with
Taipei whose
sovereignty is now recognized
by just 17
nations how is this any
different from
Russia and Putin and Crimea
this rig with as far as I mrs.
Farr
different first of all most of
the
people living on Taiwan are
Taiwanese
and they're they're not like a
bunch of
mandarins from Beijing living
there in
the Crimea was mostly Russians
okay and
I think that's a major
difference and so
if you had a referendum in
China and
Taiwan - mostly okay so so
China they
would vote no now you're
getting more
towards my point is this is
this is
China looking to annex re annex
or
whatever you want to call it at
I want
and as you pointed out no one's
talking
about it
they don't know what to talk
about they
don't know what to say or what
to think
this happened during the last
time this
was a real major situation
where these
two islands quill moyers quill
Moy and
Matsu these two islands that
were 1/2
owned by Taiwan and ones owned
by China
and this was during the Nixon
administration and it was gonna
be a
point of argument at the
debates what
are you gonna do if China you
know takes
over the other island because
they keep
kept threatening to do it and
it's just
there China pulls the stunt all
the time
they tend to pull it in
Republican
administrations hmm not sure
why that is
but I think it's because we're
I think
there's some concern that China
is you
know taking over the world why
do they
always stop short though they
always are
threatening this it keeps
coming back
and then they never really do
anything
well they have so many people
is the
problem hmm and if they ever did
something is probably nothing
we could
really do about it mm-hmm and I
don't
know what that may be a real
mess if
they detect Taiwan but when I
first time
I went to Taiwan which is
really in the
90s maybe the late eighties you
used to
get shirts made there oh yeah I
would
always get watch guy Korea
Korea Taiwan
yeah I used to get shirts made
in Hong
Kong but then now it's too
expensive
like really expensive and tell
us about
your shirts your shirt job
there were
special shirts there just
tailor made
shirts as all they are they
have nice
fabrics they're about 15 bucks
apiece
you forgetting nowadays are
more like 20
you're forgetting the most
important
part
you had these shirts made with
a special
breast pocket Oh No yes okay
sorry
you're right I had the I had my
own
pattern so I bring a pattern
over so I
want these shirts made with
these
pockets and I want to certain
you know
Perry Ellis patent his
shoulders and
there's a number of features I
like on
my shirts and so time I had
this huge
breast pockets that would
conveniently
hold a CD in the pocket and
disappear
down into the pocket perfectly
so if you
went to somebody's house and
you wanted
to steal some of their CDs you
could
easily put it in the pocket
know at one
point also have pockets that
fit a five
inch floppy yeah you are the
gadfly of
Silicon Valley a fantastic
custom-made
shirt you might as well do
something
custom yeah exactly
huge pocket what's that force
for my
floppy disk hey hey hey girls
want to
see my floppy very nice
anyway so that yeah Deb Taiwan
and Jen
South Korea or the places have
the
custom shirts made
inexpensively about
20 bucks maybe around there and
they'll
do anything so this this little
back and
forth with China is not being
covered at
all by our media and it's we're
all in
we've gotten about it Chinese
have been
putting the screws to everybody
who does
business with Taiwan the
Chinese are in
times they own Times Square I
mean come
on it's like there's a lot of
money
flowing the problem - no agenda
show is
not seeing anyone or Remini be
or any of
that nuts because we're banned
we are
actually blocked in China no it
doesn't
surprise me I have heard from
more than
a few people I can't tell
anyone - China
- check this because they can't
get the
show hmm so we're blocked for
what
reason we've been deep
platformed by
China why are we blocked in
China it's a
question it's just called D
platform
that sounds better
why are we D platform in China
what do
we have well how much China
coverage do
we even have this that
important more
than the mainstream one stories
enough
that's the problem I them
that's the
problem right there crazy
we actually I believe that our
show has
been D platformed multiple
times without
us really on what we've we've
seen the
results but we weren't able to
figure it
out and there is a study was
done a test
who did this
a report group called mg who
the hell
are these guys
I am GE you're under them some
sounds
fishy to be quite honest mg M
Jimmy see
what it stands for
mg about us anyway this is mg
they did a
test of speed o of spam of
emails and so
newsletters essentially being
sent to
Google Yahoo and what was the
an AOL
yeah yahoo email AOL email and
gmail
email and they tracked how many
newsletters went to spam during
the
period October 4th to November
6 and
especially 2 days before the
election
all right leaning entities as
they call
them in their study went to
spam all
interesting and so the
assertion here
actually I would say it's an
accusation
is that the email providers
were were
sending newsletters of
right-wing
candidates to spam and and if
you and if
you look on yahoo 70% or more
most 100
percent Josh Holly Rick Scott
Dean
Heller Mike Braun Kevin Cramer
all to
spam then you had the the
Democrats 0%
is it the same for AOL almost
the same
percentages Gmail was a little
better
but they still had a hundred
percent for
a couple of candidates going to
spam
and we know how this email game
we dealt
with it at me vo even pod show
me vo we
had to pay because we had
emails that
would go out if someone created
an
account or if you want to
retrieve your
password or a notification and
we just
happy we set that system up
we're
talking 2008 is six seven eight
somewhere six probably we just
set that
up and emails weren't arriving
which is
difficult if someone wants to
recover
their password and they were
all being
blocked not even getting
through not
even getting to spam because we
weren't
an official a mass email
provider which
apparently you need to be need
to be or
hire the services in order to
get
through to these companies on
an on any
scale other than an individual
it's a
tax and it's a kleiner perkins
company
to so we got a deal but still
it was
crazy we've had thousands a
month just
to be let through on email
well my let the last email I
sent out to
one that first show eleven
hundred we
ended up with a higher norm
rate we have
by a number of people that
report this
mmm-hmm a higher than normal
rate going
into the promotions box at
Google
yeah the promotions box that's
another
one yeah and how did you know
that just
feedback from people that you
know that
yeah yeah is it because this
would one
or two guys in particular say
there's
today's for your information
today's
email went into the regular box
today's
email went into promote its
gonna
feedback good feedback yeah so
it that
is a form of deep platforming
sadly yeah
even less because we've let but
holla
but we pay the know Jenna show
pays
MailChimp and they're in an
approved
emailer so we pay to get
through but
then on the other end we still
have
these companies going man we'll
throw
that into spam
and it could just be some some
algorithm
that looks for certain combos
of words
you tried to figure out what
these
combos are over the years and
I've
gotten a few of them you still
haven't
done the Trump is Trump socks
or you got
to do as a subject line to see
if
everyone gets it
Trump sucks test yeah it's the
TST
yeah maybe I might try it his
next
couple newsletter it's worth
it's worth
a shot could work the I've
always known
that it was the apps that is
that you
know let me step back for a
second
the thing that Facebook and
Twitter but
let's just keep it at Facebook
for a
second dang know at Google to
that
continuously say to everybody
is your
data is your data we don't sell
your
data your data belongs to you
it's your
data your edit your data your
data it
the term data is very
misleading in this
the term data refers to stuff
you post
and your photos etc that's
really what
they're talking about when they
say your
data but the data that is
created by
actions you take that you don't
actually
know is inherently not your data
according to Silicon Valley and
they
don't tell you about it and
I've always
thought that you know the issue
with the
with tracking from Silicon
Valley mainly
location-based I think that's
the main
thing you know where someone is
you get
a good idea who they hang out
with and
and what they're doing just
based on
location but the apps any app
that has
the Facebook advertising SDK
software
development kit included is
tracking you
like no one else's business
Facebook is
you with your Android phone if
you open
up a any app that has the
Facebook SDK
but really there's a thousand
advertising SDKs
it sends data back to home base
with a
lot of information about you at
that
very moment the Triple C
Computer Club
in in Germany those guys have
been
around for decades ever they
the CCC
baby what's the genesis of that
group do
you know well the computer
clubs are a
huge popular thing in the 70s
and early
80's because as we got these
these new
machines the information we
were getting
was pretty scant and so far you
couldn't
get enough information and so
you joined
these clubs and the clubs were
there
which were fantastic
you join one of these clubs and
then
they bring guests and from
Microsoft
companies and they could get
grilled
were you a member of any of
these clubs
back in the day well you would
never I
was never technically a member
but you
could go to any of the meetings
mm-hmm
so yeah I went to a lot of
meetings who
went to homebrew I went to this
one in
Berkeley there was I think Palo
Alto
Computer Club if I'm not
mistaken or
that was homebrew I'm not and
they all
had their own BBS
generally yeah diluted but the
BBS was
interesting because they would
have
these same experts and you
could ask
questions on the BBS and get
your
questions answered by something
doesn't
work those were the days where
you had
to write or borrow or find
someone else
who could write drivers for
printers Oh
before the pre-windows days
there was no
simple way if I'm talking to a
printer
the term in Silicon Valley was
hey man
it's all about the drivers was
that like
the number one thing all about
the
drivers well I don't know about
that but
the drivers were quite
important yes so
you didn't have the right
driver you the
peripherals wouldn't work yeah
it's
still kind of that driver
issues so the
CCC's did an excellent
presentation
you'll find it in the show
notes I
clipped one little bit of it
just to
give you an idea but to set it
up they
only did this on Android they
only did
it with a select number of apps
but the
apps that were reporting a lot
of
information the ones I found
interesting
were the period tracker just
imagine if
you're tracking your period
what kind of
information that says about you
and what
that what information is being
sent but
also travel apps baby
progression apps
anything that's free pretty
much and
even although they they didn't
do enough
study on it even if you upgrade
from the
freemium to the premium model
the
advertising SDK just it sits
there just
sits in there and whenever you
open the
app it's sending data here's a
here's a
clip from this presentation
which I
thought was a real eye-opener
about the
true spying that's going on
so our first finding was that
over 61%
of the apps we tested
automatically
transferred data
before these any other like if
they if
you just open the out so it's
21 hours
34 so for example his kayak and
as
you'll see pretty much
immediately from
when the actors at flipped it
that first
request is straight to
facebook.com they
said the whole load of other
dates tools
many other companies decides
thank you I
can't let it go on for a while
but
ultimately you end up from
their home
screen which is kind of amusing
because
it's got this at the bottom of
it
without your permission
are you able to hear this yeah
yeah so
you know sending all this going
I
mention when I mention that
kayak is the
is the website that Obama if
you recall
used to promote endlessly oh
yeah well
waiting they have a little bit
more info
on kayak in this clip the top
example
here is kayak and kayak sends
your
entire search to Facebook every
time you
do a search in there which is
lovely
so and it's interesting what
they send
cuz it's not just it's not just
for the
content of your search there's
also some
other stuff like your user score
whatever that is it's got app
for skated
session IDs and all sorts of
other
things that they're sending to
Facebook
the other one that's on the
bottom here
is the King James Bible and
it's quite
typical of a lot of ways that
app
developers implement the SDK
and allows
them to track your usage
through the app
so this one they actually told
you watch
verse and passage of the Bible
you'd
read which is a what Facebook
needs to
know but nerd but think about
that
Facebook knows what chapter or
verse
you're on in your King James
Bible app
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but we don't do anything with
your data
so and then the last bit is the
actual
advertising data though
Facebook users
and this is a request to their
ad
network and there's something
slightly
interesting static it comes
from here is
that you know like the device
is on
charge the map the battery
percentage is
full there's free space and
this isn't
this isn't even the most
comprehensive
example I've seen no other data
on there
such as accelerometer positions
the
other slight interesting thing
again all
linked with the VF ID so yeah
it's
crucial to remember this
happens whether
you're a Facebook user or
you're not a
Facebook with you logged in or
you're
not logged in so it's making
profiles
are being made regardless of
whether
you're have a Facebook account
or you
don't have a Facebook account
well you
have to use this some of these
apps and
a profile is being built
people don't know this this is
really
really evil and there are
thousands you
the advertising you want Adam
oh sure
sure hasn't targeted to you yes
but
they're doing this before the
app even
is functional for you you're
just
opening the app and it's
sending all
this that's what chrome does to
you open
up Chrome it's talking to home
base for
an hour but worse and then all
kinds of
stuff who knows is disgusting
it is disgusting it should be
illegal I
think it is actually in some
funny way
oh really
well I mean dude cookies I
thought
there's a bunch of laws about
you can't
go on somebody else's machine
and start
using their storage
I know when you sign up for one
of the
browsers that probably did
probably has
it in the house when you sign
up terms
of service should be illegal
the worst is ancestry DNA we
now know in
there EULA
they actually it so if you get
your DNA
tested through ancestry DNA and
you sign
off like yeah okay this is good
I'm good
to go you can have my my DNA
data and
you can process it what you are
actually
agreeing to is the perpetual
royalty
free worldwide license to use
your DNA
for anything they want to
next to uncovering your ethnic
mix
discovering distant relatives
finding
new details about your unique
family
history with this simple DNA
test but
what's interesting is after I
think it's
three years then that DNA data
they have
is no longer yours it's theirs
in
perpetuity but you no longer
have you
can use it but you no longer
have any
claim to ownership of the
results of
that test it's right in their
user
licensing agreement one of your
another
thing to avoid it's hard to
avoid EULA's
well something's got to be done
about
that I keep seeing it little
cracks in
the in the ice it's eventually
gonna
happen I think this will be
this will be
an interesting year for
technology for
you know more like the deep
platforming
people figuring out what's
really going
on it takes a long time for
people to
understand and for it to bubble
to the
top and you need some kind of
event with
something that people can just
point to
a headline and understand
well you're talking about the
normals
yes your mom not your mom but
the normal
normal people exactly
it's true
well I got a well couple of
interesting
things happened oh here's the
one I
wanted you to play this is this
is the
spot the flub clip changing the
topic
okay right into it
I want you to see if you can
spot the
flub the government for border
security
check its do a twelve of the
government
shutdown as president Trump
prepares for
another White House meeting with
congressional leaders would you
say it's
bleh-bleh 12 its 12 was this
New Year's
Eve wait well was she hammered
already
say 12 2012 itself all right
and with that I'd like to thank
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you the man who put the C in
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John C Dvorak in the morning to
you mr.
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and all
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calendar
spanning 2016 to 2020 for with
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favorite screaming social
justice
warrior you know the one on her
knees
screaming to the heavens that
Trump was
elected a little arrow you are
here 2018
I've already seen this one
remixed
online people changing it to
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it's the images kind of meanie
but like
it isn't a meme it's a meanie
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the
worst part about PayPal is that
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web the cloud app you know you
click and
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we got some clips from her but
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those are
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know we
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think what
really we need to focus on is
making
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policies to win in November but
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yeah well she's down here she
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be you know she likes to do
these things
more than anybody else
flash meetup hmm why why does
she like
to do them so much I didn't get
out much
I have no idea she's like a
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just likes meaning I think
she's because
she's very compatible with the
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I think
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let's
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Mimi's just doing her own thing
getting
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now sure the baby will be there
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thank you for both thank you
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sir Neville bærum 350 you're
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climate change is blamed for
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floods etc in Australia the
fact that
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years been
dry hot and sometimes has
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hurricanes does not seemed to
matter
one of the few scientists who
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the science of the Great
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described destruction by
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listen to no
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old men
now wind you whine you engine
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whinging well your sister's a
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not let facts or a healthy
debate get in
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historically not about
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was an article in the LA Times
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about a
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California in 1860 as a part of
the
newly formed California
Division of
Mines and geology and he wrote
about
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blogging
of the day and and here's just
to give
you an idea cuz you know we
think
California is bad and it's all
climate
change just like they're doing
in
Australia yeah he witnessed
torrential
rains that turned the central
valley
into a vast white capped lake
intolerable heat waves that
made the
fats of our meats run away and
spontaneous gravy violent
earthquakes
and fires he described as great
sheets
flame extending over acres yes
it is a
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I guess it was always that way
yeah I
know well just to bring it back
home
where I can look out the window
see the
mudflats I have a map one of our
producers sent me from 1880s or
1890s
showing the mud flats on the San
Francisco Bay where they were
then and
where the in a cent of newer
maps
showing where they are now
exactly the
same climate change is real
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you
okay so I see that Jordan
Peterson and
Reuben are still on this he's
still
trying to make a new platform
kick it's
a big new platform and they're
gonna get
off both them I gonna be off
patreon on
the 15th and everyone's moaning
and
groaning about patreon and the
guy this
this jack dorsey clone is
running it
with the same beard
wait he's a jack door oh the
conte is
his name Conti yanti yeah he's
got the
same Taliban beard what is this
Taliban
beard look and Silicon Valley
of late I
don't know you live there you
should
know I don't know I'm gonna
have to ask
around this listen to what they
have to
say and because there's a this
one thing
I thought was interesting I got
two
clips here they are about hate
speech
and there's a EB Peterson
specifically
mentions the Southern Poverty
Law Center
and I think is it in agreement
the way
you can I just back up for one
second
because we don't do enough of
that and I
promised myself I'd do that
starting
this year is we're talking
about these
two guys who are leaving the
funding
platform patreon because
someone else
got kicked off somehow they
think that
these these platforms are
necessary to
take money where as you can get
you can
get money through checks people
can
actually said you know you can
wire
money to someone's bank account
did you
know that John is this crazy
crazy thing
we have unbelievable I know
there's all
kinds of ways you can do it
this pop
money there's just and you can
even make
your your banks and checks
automatically
numerous countless ways to get
money now
Zell is another one which I'm
still not
quite hooked up to but pop
money works
great bank transfers orcs piss
swift
transfers or they're pricey but
they do
work and then you just like you
said and
there's a bunch of different
systems out
there where you can sign up and
then
they will send checks yeah you
sign up
through your banks no banking
and then
you get put you get checks they
just
come in an envelope there's a
bunch of
checks so for whatever reason
they
believe that they need to start
a new
platform
I know this is the most
baffling I mean
to me it's just it's it's very
very odd
even PayPal is a platform on
top of a
platform you know PayPal
basically
covers for MasterCard yet NASA
and
MasterCard covers for the bank
so yes I
understand frictionless but
even the
subscription model I mean do
you really
to me it's a little denigrating
to the
audience
you're so stupid to figure out
how to
send money to the show we have
to make
it simple we got to charge your
card
automatically every single
month so we
take it I don't like it we do
that
yeah but mmm not this not the
same way
patreon does it's different
patreon does it per show you
put out
then all of a sudden the money
goes
patreon is extreme this thing I
do
another bitch you might sit
here bitch
about patron why not patreon is
very
rigid about the way we do a lot
of
promotions of all kinds of
things like
the eleven hundred $110 and
eleven
hundred dollars and things like
that and
a lot of its you know you set
up a
special button or a link to to
PayPal
and it's attached to for that
amount and
it changes all the time we're
always
changing we got Valentine's Day
and all
these you can't do all that
with patron
you have to have your I'm a
patron and I
pledged $5 a month forever oh
and you
have 2,500 patrons and you know
this
sort of thing and I cross so
blamed I I
think Peterson in particular
who was
making I think a hundred
thousand
dollars a month or something
like that
on patreon wow this was quite I
don't
think this quest that high it
was high
it was pretty high but whatever
it was
he could be making twice as
much if he
was just doing his own
solicitations but
when I hear these guys talk and
I've
listened to them and I
subscribed to
their podcast oh well I'll
listen to and
or was probably more I'd listen
more to
it than watch you know the
Peterson is
also calling in everywhere
talking about
how unfair it is that he's you
know that
you're kicked off the internet
and I
just don't agree this is a very
smart
guy who has not looked any
further than
you know the apps on his phone
you can
get around all of this all of it
yeah maybe someday a hundred
years from
now you won't be able to or
even fifty
who knows but you can get
around all of
it this is not real road blocks
unless
you've unless you've put your
painted
yourself into a corner exactly
my
patreon corner some other
corner where
this is you're relying on
somebody else
a third party yeah anything we
do that
with do a some extent with
PayPal but
I've never had any troubles
PayPal
actually like work in their
system
there's this belief the belief
is so
they're all on YouTube that's I
think I
think for Peterson and Rubin
those their
main means of distribution
right what I
don't see them doing is saying
hey why
don't I you know shadow this on
bit
shoot or some other place you
know bit
shooters is is essentially
mastodons for
video you know no one can
really shut it
off your videos will stay up
though
they'll be available this is
somewhere
somehow but they feel that they
need
YouTube now I understand if
you've quit
your your job and you're making
money
through YouTube and you do not
want to
rock that boat but don't you
see it
coming down Broadway I mean how
long
before they're deep platformed
off of
YouTube it can't be long even
if even if
for the reason that Google is
sitting
there going yeah I'm not making
any
money from these guys screw
them take
them off there's a million
different
reason I just I just don't
understand it
anyway um I digress I don't
understand
it these are smart guys which
clip do we
play first the one thing I just
want to
throw in a couple of comments
to it it's
always baffled me the peer group
pressure that we even got to
use patreon
we had a number of people write
all you
should use patreon what your
guys are
doing is you can use patrons
easier well
maybe it's easier for this guy
cuz he's
a member or something he can
just go
bounce around it I'll give him
five
fight mix and then patron
stanza for
I don't know it's just that the
whole
thing was we were against the
idea of a
third party like patrons getting
involved you know you can there
banks
will help you too by the way
most banks
we're not unless you're in the
pot
business yeah the pipe is the
banks
don't like that by the way but
they're
the government if the
government goes
after you know these guys are
bitching
and moaning because they're
being the
platform by douchebags it's not
the
government if the government
says hey
we're cutting this guy off I
call PayPal
I mean they did this with
WikiLeaks call
PayPal hey look you guys really
we're
gonna much make your life
miserable kill
WikiLeaks oh okay you want to
go to the
banks and say no don't take
anything you
didn't cut them off as best
they can but
WikiLeaks is still going
they've gotten
around most of it
and the point is is I don't see
why you
would trust I mean if the
government
goes after in other words what
I'm
saying is that if the
government went
after these two guys Reuben and
Peterson
yeah then they had I think they
have
something to complain about
yeah but they're not but it's
not the
government no it's just random
douchebags running these little
Silicon
Valley operations trying to
make money
off of you and if you dive into
MasterCard they are all in on
diversity
and me up they've this Soros
that Soros
gave migrant caravans maybe not
this
most recent one but it wouldn't
surprise
me the credit card at debit
cards
mastercards with money on it
yeah that
was the most recent one that
would I
don't know which one you're
talking
about the one that came up from
up
through Nicaragua did the same
aunt
cards yeah they do this a lot
of this
stuff so they have all these
social
agendas they have entire
divisions they
feel that it's appropriate for
their
company that to support certain
initiatives and also to not
support
others so well there is a rumor
going
around that MasterCard put the
kibosh on
someone yes on this your ekkada
your sod
of a cod guy whoever is not
inside of a
car yes yes it if you read
through the
transcript of the trust and
safety team
call to whoever guy was asking
about it
so yeah no MasterCard said yeah
you
really got to get rid of this
guy I'm
paraphrasing i I find this hard
to
believe
yeah it's in the kitty that
might be
bogus well we we don't have the
audio
because the guy said he
promised not to
use the audio but he used the
transcript
so I don't know I don't know if
it's
truthful I think it is why not
it makes
nothing but sense to me I said
I don't
want to these two guys really
which one
first SPLC first how to rate
credibly
diverse range of opinions if
such
regulation needs for the last
well it's
really for the last year but
intensely
in the last month is what
actually is
the problem itself because
until we
really
figure out what the problem is
well I
think I think the problem is
how to
regulate an incredibly diverse
range of
opinions if such regulation
needs to be
instantiated we could take a
limit case
for example the desire of
companies like
Facebook not to have their
platforms
used for recruitment for Isis
it's hard
to make a case that that's not a
reasonable restriction right
but then
but then the next issue is I
think you
could make an exception there
because
maybe you've considered that a
wartime
exception or something like
that but
then the fundamental problem to
me seems
to be and I'll return again to
that
change the terms website that a
whole
variety of companies and
organizations
spearheaded in not least by the
Southern
Poverty Law Center that shameful
organization yeah the worst
that has
decided that they're going to
compel
encourage what the fame perhaps
companies that don't band
together to
regulate what they see is hate
speech
now all right professor genius
is he
just figuring this out I like
Peters
number come on the psychology
degree
didn't come with any business
degree I
guess no I mean they're using
Skype by
the way we use Skype to oh but
are we
are we totally prepared for a
deep
platforming from Skype yeah I
think so
we got other things we can use
we'd be
sad because Skype really is a
great
product for how we use it I
don't we're
not really just Skype is really
closest
thing to a common carry that
you can be
cuz there's no Skype right has
all kinds
of rules their whole new to
terms of
services you can't you use hate
speech
while talking to someone else
on skype
it's in their terms of service
I haven't seen that yes it's
enough
reads it to me
alright hold on I will go to
Bing it dot
IO Bing it dot IO does that
imply that
they're listening to all these
conversations that they have
one of
those little uh you know NSA
word
recognizing codes running and
going
wouldn't surprise wouldn't
surprise me
hmm I don't know if I'll be
able to find
that just quickly but I I really
remembered a part too cuz this
good this
one here you just talked about
is a
certain naivete I want to
discuss
naivete after it plays this one
one of
the things that I can't fathom
in some
sense is the lack of
imagination on the
part of the people who are
engaging in
censorship of what they regard
as hate
speech like there's an old
military
adage which is that if you
invent a
weapon it will be used by your
enemy
within 15 years okay so what
what makes
the people who on the on the
left
because they're the ones who
are doing
this what as you can clearly
see are in
the change the terms website
what makes
them so sure that exactly the
same
tactics won't be used against
them like
at the drop of a hat once once
the
tactics have been validated and
put in
place
hello hello where do you think
they got
these tactics from they got
them from
the right wingers of these
family
organizations that would
pressure the TV
stations not to play this not
to play
that off that's right have a
boycott
they go after the advertisers
just like
these guys there's nothing I
want and I
will say it was the Christian
Right
probably yeah the Christian
Right
Christian Right they behaved
angelic
evangelists and the rest of the
this
crowd mostly a couple of
organization
pressure organizations I got it
I got
into a beef with one of them
because I
was promoting the dot xxx
domain hmm
which went through and I got a
back-and-forth and I got
mentioned as a
douche bag for promoting this
and I was
I went back and forth with him
so I
can't remember the name of this
group it
was one of these same pressure
group so
I said look this is trite the
idea is to
take the ball to point and push
it over
into a corner would that been
required
xxx and they didn't see it that
way they
said that that xx I was just
encouraging
more porn and I was a horrible
person
for suggesting this and anyway
you're
getting did these groups have
been
around mostly on the right
they've been always I see most
all of
them were been on the right and
and 15
years later just like Peterson
said the
left is now using the same
tactics but
he thinks it's like the
beginning of
something it's not yeah this is
a great
American tradition thinking
this is a
great American tradition we D
platform
we pressure we pressure you
with public
shaming we pressure you your
advertisers
this has been going on for a
long time
from this by we took the malla
we took
from the Skype code of conduct
you may
not publicly display or use the
services
to share inappropriate content
or
material involving for example
nudity
bestiality pornography offensive
language graphic violence or
criminal
activity we may stop providing
services
to you or may close your
account we may
also block delivery of a
communication
like email file sharing or
instant
message to or from the services
an
effort to enforce these terms
blah blah
blah it was very clear and was
a big
deal everyone was talking about
it yeah
well I'm not worried that's the
least of
my problems just worrying about
Skype
but my point is
we're prepared for that you
know with
this but no one's gonna pull by
anything
could happen but pulling the
plug on our
distribution unlikely because
we don't
rely on it I don't give a crap
about
Twitter you care more about
than I do
Mastodon are no agenda social
calm I get
oh I got a lot more out of that
it's
really grown to not just just
are now
you know there all the time you
do not
lie lie everyone's always
tagging you
you never respond yeah I've
made for a
couple of weeks you just lied
and people
you know as I said I think 2019
people
are gonna start getting pissed
off about
this stuff I love what's
happening now
with the where was this taking
place so
in in Arizona
we're way Moe has rolled out
their
driverless cars oh yeah Peters
predicted
yes people are throwing rocks
at them
slashing the tires trying to
drive them
off the road with their own
vehicles
yeah I love this yeah I this
was I wrote
this calm years ago saying that
vandalism because yes yeah the
idea is
great I think the technology
almost
works doesn't quite it's just
still
missing a few pieces but I
think the
publishers like is they're not
gonna put
up with it not initially it's
gonna take
years before they get used to
see
wanting these things you know
they're
convenient they are but yeah
they're
running them off the road man in
Oklahoma there's a new trend
called
icing icing stands for internal
combustion engine Inc where
pickup
drivers park their trucks in
front of
the electric vehicle charging
stations
and don't move
yeah this backlash on all of
this stuff
yeah all of it
the boy man didn't add in stock
market
today Apple got hammered for
something
it's like everything's crashing
again
and yeah we'll see we'll see
how well
the technology does it's kind
of it's
like a small flaw I think in
professor
Ted's reasoning
it seems that certainly the
American
population a percentage of its
small is
revolting against the
technology tyranny
just against the tyranny yeah
what do
you mean
the tyranny that all you've got
to do
this you got to do that you
have to have
and you can't get any gas
mileage you
can't drive a car the v8 you
have to
have a small electric car yeah
you know
the deathtrap you have to drive
that you
have to but you get free
charging but
you don't get free charging
when it
first came out with charging
everywhere
I used to be able to go to
Costco point
my electric car I don't have
one part my
electric card Costco and
there's a
charging station I could plug
it in for
free now it's all paid charging
you get
a nice parking spot but you had
to pay
to get your car charged yeah so
what
happened to the free charging
ah this
number and there's no free lunch
I've got all this Tesla still
some free
charging but then I think
there's some
people made it adapter so the
text the
charger would fit into anything
yeah
these things don't work these
deceives
so for all this technology
that's why we
have China all over the DRC
that Congo
that's why we've got lots of
crap going
on there people jockeying
position
because they need the minerals
and who
else pops up in this and then
you know
it's real Blackwater founder
Eric Prince
yeah has launched a fund for
electric
car metals
I think it's metals for
batteries more
than just electric vehicles
this guy's
smart plays one of the smartest
guys out
there
I don't know if you run a fund
though
that's a lot different to
business yeah
I see how his fund does to the
front man
what's gonna have to go was
team up with
one of the VCS but they're all
be
embarrassed though oh that guy
we can't
we can't hook up with him we
had to do
our green thing yeah
he's the wrong he's the wrong
figurehead
isn't it yeah he's not Al Gore
he's not
Colin Powell I guess I'm kind of
saying of discussing kleiner
perkins I
did learn some things over the
New
Year's break from the
Millennials the
word woke is out
can't use the word woke anymore
you should just be woke and if
you say
if you say I'm woke you're
actually
incredibly unwell you understand
you
no it's probably stems from
than jill
abramson oh you're going too
fast you're
going too fast
because I have a clip from NPR
to
explain to you that woke is
over and by
the way good the concept of
woke not so
new you've heard the word a lot
by this
point woke woke yeah woke your
annoying
friend probably uses it
you are so woke politicians and
celebrities use it sleeping
woke means
that you recognize everybody
uses it are
you even woke I want us to stop
first
what exactly does woke mean
it's defined
as aware of and actively
attentive to
important facts and issues
especially
issues of racial and social
justice
that's Emily Brewster she's an
associate
editor at merriam-webster the
dictionary
the black lives matter movement
is
largely responsible for the
rise of woke
this century the word is tied
to this
idea of valuing and respecting
blackness
activists used it to urge
people to take
issues like the deaths of black
people
at the hands of police
seriously Nicole
holiday is a linguist at Pomona
College
she says before that the word
woke
appeared in an essay decades
ago if
you're woke you dig it by
William Melvin
Kelly and that was in 1962
Kelly argued that once black
words used
to define certain aspects of
blackness
like cats or dig it once I got
the white
people they were kind of over
Nicole
holiday thinks that has
happened to woke
this decade
it went from black almost
fringe to
white and mainstream so there's
a couple
of things in here that I that I
found
interesting one the fact that
the exact
way this is used woke comes
from if
you're woke you dig it New York
Times
article which explains why
Maxine Waters
really propagated it cuz she
was in I
think she was in Congress in
1962 but
the idea that it really means
the same
thing as dig it man groovy hip
you hip
to me what they all is the same
thing
but yes and the finger-snapping
goes
with it yes
which is the cycle is just a
fractal
we're just going around in
circles once
again no beatnik bar but the
but the
moment the club was smoking
reefer
listening to poets myth the
minute white
people because here's the
racist part of
it uh the minute white people
start
using the term oh yeah then
it's over
then it's not then it's no good
anymore
there's dumb
look
Shapiro wrote a cop he's like
Shapiro is
a pretty good writer I don't
like him as
a as a host but he's a pretty
good
writer and he claimed the term
woke
scolding for 2019
never heard of it what he's
made it's
probably over but that Jill
Abrams uses
the term Alhurra
allow me to remind everyone who
Jill
Abrams is Irie I read the New
York Times
like all day long
mainly on my iPad app the
original
Berkeley Hummer Jill Abramson
heard of
the New York Times editor
executive ever
the New York Times slammed the
time and
of course see we don't have a
clip of
her slamming The Times because
she wrote
an article but this play this
overall
takes not an article it's not
the times
and her use of the word woke as
a term
of ridicule she it's in her
book yeah
it's not an article it's in her
book
yeah I'm sorry said it's in her
new book
just a new book and she slams
the times
the former executive editor of
the New
York Times Jill Abramson
criticizing
that newspaper in her upcoming
book
calling The Times news coverage
unmistakeably anti-trump let's
bring in
howard kurtz
fox news media analyst and host
of media
buzz she's not gonna be making
a lot of
friends among her former
colleagues at
the New York Times with a lot
of what
she has to say in this book
Howie
absolutely not Jon but this is
an
extraordinary rebuke by Jill
Abramson
the former executive editor as
you say
if she not only calls the news
coverage
unmistakably anti-trump she
says the
younger staff they're the woke
staff
members that she puts it are so
concerned about what they see
is the
dangers of trumps presidency
that they
want to throw out the old
journalistic
standards she also says that
given the
papers mostly liberal audience
there's a
financial reward for The Times
and
running so many stories about
Trump
almost all the negative of that
is
soaring traffic yes soaring
traffic
exactly yeah
I'm not so sure that what good
it does
the country so I just say
something I
since this is a book that has
not yet
been published I question
what's really
in there
this is your typical promotion
who's
publishing the book do we know
and I
don't know one of the big boys
I'm not
so sure that she slams the New
York
Times the way this Fox News
report said
I find out when the book comes
out yeah
it's great promotion I wouldn't
have
known she had a book otherwise
it would
have just thought it was from
an article
and the fact that she's not out
there
doing it herself with would
love to hurt
her read the book oh the
audiobook the
audiobook yes it's 18 hours
long it's a
very good book well in the
newspaper
industry word is out we we know
what's
happened now it was North Korea
who
hacked the LA Times and other
Tribune
publishing related papers sure
North
Korea yes North Korea it was
yeah the
great hackers of the world none
of them
are computer literate they
don't have
it's not part of their culture
but yet
they're the best
it's the Rioch ransomware this
is
actually pretty fun to read a
little bit
deeper into it and it's not
really
discussed much I found a couple
of
experts who figured out what's
going on
so they got hit by ransomware
and the
and apparently some of these
papers are
the publishing company itself
or whoever
was paid out close to 640
thousand
dollars and if you see the
emails cuz
they send you an email it's very
professional this is not your I
saw you
jerking off on your webcam send
me a
Bitcoin or I'll send it to all
your your
your to your entire address
book this is
very clear they actually send
along a
key to decrypt one or two files
so to
prove that they have the key
they say
don't try any of these things
it'll
immediately destroy your data
so this
was not just some
or some glitch no this was a
ransomware
attack which they're blaming
North Korea
for whereas the only person you
can
really blame is your own
network of the
entity know your network guy
well I hate
to blame the dude named Ben but
yeah
well there's a lot of
incompetent dudes
named badass as every dude
named Ben
knows yes yes
and I think that they do what
while on
that topic tell us how you back
up
currently what your current
methodology
is so people can know what max
safety is
except for the one exception of
not
having something off-site first
of all
all no agenda files are on a
separate
Drive I have a and that's
duplicated so
I have two drives all files
everything
the whole kit and kaboodle tens
of
thousands of files is on that
every
after every show everything is
backed up
on this machine and I make a
clone of
the drive because I know that
everything
was working and was fine and
should
something happen I can just pop
in the
new drive and be up and running
and I
also do an a backup to the cloud
magical cloud and Acronis
itself has
some kind of ransomware
protection they
claims yeah I'm not counting on
it but
they do have some form of
protection
I personally back everything up
to a
cassette tape using the Kansas
City
standard you know the Netflix
has this
they tried to do this
interactive movie
it wasn't called banned or - I
think
it's a black mirror it's a
black mirror
production yeah and have you
not heard
about this is interesting I
think I've
heard about it and didn't
really pay
much attention it says I'm not
into
injury Oh movies now neither
neither am
i and in fact when it started
off
Michael this is like CDI if
remember
combo is worse interactive
where you can
choose the storyline and
Letterman David
Letterman used this joke he
said once I
says hey I go to see a movie
not right
one right now I thought I would
hate
this and I did kind of hate it
the
difference was and I think that
maybe he
mentions the last show that
because the
story itself is about a guy
building a
video game an adventure video
game in
the 80s that it you know it
kind of
makes sense and it's very meta
in that
regard but here's what's
interesting
that I heard yesterday at a
certain see
you can end up at a difference
it can
end for you differently than
somebody
else's probably eight different
endings
but then in that ending the guy
pops a
cassette cuz I played it twice
the guy
pops a cassette tape into his
Walkman
and it's the it the good old
you know
the sound of what would my
Commodore 64
or the nutmeg vic-20 or my zx80
you
would record your program onto a
cassette tape yeah and I sat
there
thinking
if I was ten years younger I'd
get up
off the couch I'd go record
that and
find an anywhere later and you
know what
I was right
apparently it's it's Atari code
and then
when you decrypt it you know if
you get
an emulator it pops up a
rendering of a
QR code he's had to use the QR
code to
go to some website and you get
no prize
but there's a lot of it it was
interesting
yeah if your yeah you'd have to
be about
you said 10 years ago yeah 10
years
younger maybe I would have no
no I don't
think so I think maybe I was 40
years
younger I was oh how old am I
oh yeah if you're sure you're
saying at
the age of you're 40 55 or are
50 to 54
gay you're 54 so you're telling
me at
the age of at the ripe age of 44
you're gonna download the code
and then
find an old Atari and go
through the egg
and you hooking it up and then
running
this this noise through it and
getting a
piece of a QR code and then
banging it
with your phone and seeing
where it goes
no no no no you're not doing
this at 44
all right I'm glad you know me
so well I
did not buying it okay it's
okay you
have too many things to do with
your
time oh yeah I mean that's oh
yeah I got
lots of stuff to do with Mike
well you
got more to do than that I mean
what do
you know you the solution is to
let some
kid do it and then you can
report it
like you did on this duck like
now so
you might as well have not done
it yes
somebody's gonna do it let him
do it
okay here's a little report
from CNN and
of course I have it listed here
in some
way that it's impossible for
you to ever
figure out but let's say it's
geh they
don't fly on broomsticks they
tend not
to be bewitched
[Music]
Donald Trump you know I call it
a witch
hunt
and it is a witch hunting
modern-day
witches are hard to categorize
are you a
good witch or a bad witch are
you a
witch living yes and which kind
of which
are you yeah I'm initiated into
Wicca
which is the religious side of
things
which is tend to side with
liberals and
you know what this is genie
most always
doesn't he does
you like her packages I think
they're
pretty stupid but you like them
though
there I like her packages
because she's
got a sense of humor yeah she
they are
stupid they give her stupid
packages
that CN n go on and on about
Trump's use
of the word which and then
throw it to
her to have her do a package or
a
ridiculously stupid package I
like that
which is I like witches are
liberal
that's great yeah liberals and
you know
what they wish president Trump
would
stop saying about the Muller
investigation it's a witch hunt
that's
all it is the witch hunt as I
call it
Russian witch hunt this is a
witch hunt
like nobody's ever seen before
the
author of witchcraft activism
calls the
president's use of the term
really
disgraceful I mean thousands of
people
were executed in Europe on
suspicion of
witchcraft
the devil 19 supposed witches
were had
there's a lot to be offended by
by
Donald Trump and I think his
use of the
term witch-hunt is is very low
on that
list of priorities for most
witches but
nevertheless it does
demonstrate his
ignorance as usual the entire
thing has
been a witch hunt but if the
president
stopped saying witch hunt
he'd have to hunt for a new
term tweeted
someone I guess he will have to
start
referring to it as a wild goose
chase
but then that might offend
geese the
last time witches got mixed up
in
politics a losing teaparty
candidate for
the Senate had to proclaim I'm
not a
witch after having said she
dabbled in
witchcraft in high school if
there's one
demographic president Trump
hasn't put a
spell on its witches they'd
rather put a
spell on him exactly the same
clip cool
got it yeah witch hunt nothing
is sacred
anymore I liked it better when
Trump
picked on real witches you know
lichens
like in this interview
Elizabeth Warren
will be the first she did very
badly and
proving that she is of Indian
heritage
that didn't work out too well I
think
you have more than she does and
maybe I
do too and I have nothing so
you know
we'll see how she does I wish
her well I
hope she does well I'd love to
run
against her she says she's in
the fight
all the way mr. president do
you do you
really think she believes she
can win
[Music]
that was a good one I wish you
would get
it because it would be a great
battle
cuz she's a they hate each other
well here's I got the democracy
now and
Warren apparently is running in
yes yes
yes the first one out of the
gate
yeah well so to speak
middle class is getting
hollowed out and
opportunity for too many of our
young
people is shrinking so I'm in
this fight
all the way right now
Washington works
great so the wealthy and the
well-connected it's just not
working for
anyone else but I am optimistic
I
believe in what we can do
together
I'm gonna build a grassroots
campaign on
Tuesday senator Warren said she
plans to
visit Iowa this weekend I was a
popular
first stop for presidential
candidates
this is the first state to vote
in the
primaries ah she's such a phony
do you
see her her beer moment
everyone's that
one all the kids are talking
about she's
trying to do an AOC and she's
doing that
periscope videos the IOC sits
around
this periscope in her apartment
and make
some depression mac and cheese
and shows
her how to mac and cheese me
how to make
some mac and cheese and
Elizabeth Warren
sits down and she's drinking
beer from
the bottle you know you need
some more
unique glass in the office
I can't drink beer from a box
drinking
beer from the bottle like you
know under
periscope and there was like
calling her
out it's phony you're just
trying to
look relevant I guess it's the
term -
trying to look relevant woke ya
can't
say woke man you can't say it
yes okay I have two things here
actually
this is something we should
investigate
talking here I think this is
where Dave
Rubin and Jordan Peterson
should put all
of their all of their efforts
into and
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of course it crapped out
because he
wouldn't pretty much unless you
were
like Chase Manhattan given to
JPMorgan
there was no way you can make
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go from A to B yeah yeah well
we do it
differently and I'd like to
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indeed we do have a few people
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thousand more
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thousand
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you
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we'll just
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people sir crash EMT hundred
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I don't even know patreon could
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it's
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thought it
was illegal to send stuff that
small a
journey of a thousand it's my
budget for
the tinfoil hats for 2019 which
I no
longer require since being
directed to
the best spot cast for my son
Aaron who
is a douche bag still
and he needs addy douching he
says his
karma generally has been good
mostly
because he's attempt to be a
tad OTG not
as much as Adam but wandering
around
wandering around the edges of it
therefore I'd like to share a
goat car
with my fellow travelers
he's Aaron fortaleza douchebag
he's got
D dishing in Indiana nearly as
good as
uh well he's in battleground
Indiana
nearly as good as Knobble
alright enough
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listening to
the show since before election
time in
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by the
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sure he's
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Florida was he doing something
well he
says uh no story here yes mm oh
he went
to off the grid oh you want OTG
yes you
say $15 a day by not signing up
for the
surf while you sail internet
streaming
package on the cruise don't
doesn't
wouldn't that come with the
cruise now
it's a separate package what
did you go
to buy a package why anybody
here he
says I did observe while in the
middle
of the ocean the majority of
the six and
half thousand passengers with
cell
phones in hand 24/7 if at the
pool
bathing suit and cellphone sad
to
observe but I'm much better
mentally
turning off my tech connection
for a
time
thanks Adam and John for the
suggestion
it's not just suggestion it's a
lifestyle my friend and J&K
thanks Derek
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Jennifer
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people are
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it's all st. are its Austinites
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tungsten so it doesn't sustain
contains
no tungsten it's all good hey
Alex Jones
is coming unglued man he's
coming what a
thing to start off this segment
with I
got it I got to play this for
you him
coming unglued
I think the deep platforming
unglued man
you know they're giving kids
vaccines
everywhere that eat their
freaking
cerebral cortex ya know I'm not
really
familiar with vaccines
literally the
point is this crap this is why
you don't
do meth kids man each day Adam
is just
kidding yeah of course I'm
kidding
well he's not kidding about not
doing
math no but the implication
that this
guy doesn't need meth oh man
it's
justice he's high on life man
no I think
it yeah he's he's he's high on
that male
vitality or whatever that stuff
you
cells
uh Trump I think again I don't
think
just sitting there cursing like
that is
really the way to get his
audience back
I don't think he lost his
audience at
all I think he's doing just
fine maybe
he did he was around way before
looking
all right he probably has not
lost his
artists it's the casual
audience the
ones that only see him
occasionally I
would include myself in that
well no
here's what happened to him see
the
difference is you and I we
accept our
position in the media space
which is way
down below on the ladder you
know
underneath some incurable
diseases
that's kind of where we are and
we
applaud cast yeah we were
podcasters we
accept it he can't accept it
that he's
no longer in the in the milieu
that
people is no longer being
talked about
that's I think that's his
problem he
thrives on people talking about
him good
or bad doesn't matter and now
it is just
vapid you know there's just no
mention
of him even with deep
platforming he's
no longer even mentioned
he's just you know removed
something
when they started talking about
the
biggies that were deep platform
he is
showing up less and less yeah
yeah it's
just moving down and and I
think that
that bothers him he has to
accept it and
that's where he came from he
was always
the anti guy because we don't
need them
screw the mainstream and you
know I
think it's affecting him anyway
I just
thought it was not heard a rant
like
that from him in a while just
that just
cause you ranting about who
knows it's
just angry she's angry I think
the
president gave us a little clue
about stock market activity he
is the
stock whisperer these days you
know he
just did that thing pumped up
yeah
well listen to this would have
been a
lot easier for me to sit back
and just
let it continue but it was out
of
control and our strong economy
makes it
even more difficult because
people come
up because our country's doing
better by
far than any other country in
the world
from an economic standpoint
with the
talk of the world yeah and we
had a
little glitch in the stock
market last
month now he says we had that
normally I
freaked out over the use of the
term
glitch but that's typically
when it's in
a technology report oh well
yeah the
airline but everyday ticketing
broke
because of the glitch who
couldn't print
the newspaper cuz of the glitch
Trump
you know he's simple you gotta
listen to
what he's saying I think he's
saying
here that there was actually
not at not
that something broke but that
the stock
market ran rampant as we
discussed with
the algorithmic amplification
and he
considers that to be a glitch
I accept that so what you're
saying is
he's hinting to buy it I'm not
I'm not
drawing that conclusion I'm
hinting that
he understands somehow that
these wild
swings are not really based on
anything
then some piece of news and all
the out
goes jump on a man I'd look at
it you'll
see five different big company
stocks
all locked into like the SP you
know
there were SP why the spy and
spiders by
and and and it goes up and then
it's you
can put three charts next to
each other
they're just locked in it's
just come
yet and so if if the AL goes go
nuts
then everyone goes nuts and it
just goes
on or on it's very dangerous I
just did
I mention that there is a meet
up on
Friday in Berkeley and you'll
be there
along with Mimi's it's fancy
adorable
come see everybody it's gonna be
fantastic
I was uh well I have a moment
here where
I could do my whatever happened
to oh
you know what you can do your
whatever
happened to and I won't give
you I think
we have a jingle for you let's
see
Tom Starkweather yeah whatever
happened
to jingle enjoy it
yeah great that's a real
uplifting okay
from 2009 this is a this was a
meme they
tried to get going to get
people to you
know save the planet global
warming this
is almost 10 years ago global
warming
was caused by fat people tiptoe
on why
researchers say obesity is bad
for the
environment obesity and global
warming
both heavy topics now linked by
a new
study from the London School of
Hygiene
and Tropical Medicine it says
people who
weigh more tend to drive more
and eat
more and all that food it
shipped on
average 1,500 miles from where
it's
grown to your plate fat people
researchers contend are killing
the
planet more so than those who
are thin
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we were on a good tip with that
yeah I
was in 2009 and I just dropped
it like a
hot potato when they looked at
the
audience of people bitch and
moan about
climate change they said oh my
god these
people are all overweight well
this
brings me to a fabulous first
show of
chip Todd's what's his name
Chuck Todd
Chuck Todd Chuck Todd Meet the
Press
whatever it is meat depression
this
Sunday the climate crisis brace
yourselves for dangerous feet
the
drought we're in is
Astra's everyone ought to be
worried
about it rainfall amounts
really are
staggering everything we own is
destroyed annual average
temperatures in
the US could increase anywhere
from 2 to
11 degrees to fast-moving fire
storms
within miles of each other the
Garden of
Eden just turned into gates of
Hell the
evidence is everywhere you can
answer
yourself the science is settled
it's ridiculous to say it
wouldn't be
better the administration in
Washington
didn't deny science but the
politics is
not climate change is real and
it is
urgent problem that we need to
bear down
on it
this morning will report on the
challenge of climate change the
science
the damage to our environment
the cost
and the politics welcome to
Sunday and
this special edition of Meet
the Press
from NBC News
the longest-running show in
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history this is a special
edition of
Meet the Press with Chuck Todd
good
Sunday morning and a Happy New
Year's
weekend to everyone this
morning we're
gonna do something that we
don't often
get to do on one topic
it's obviously extraordinarily
difficult
to do this show as the end of
this year
has proven in the air of no not
clear
but we're gonna take an
in-depth look
regardless of that at a
literally earth
changing subject that doesn't
get talked
about this thoroughly on
television news
at least climate change but
just as
important as what we are going
to do
this hour is what we're not
going to do
we're not going to debate
climate change
the existence of it the earth
is getting
hotter and human activity is a
major
cause period we're not going to
give
time to climate deniers the
science is
settled even if political
opinion is not
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unreal
sure we're gonna hold it do a
whole hour
and we're not gonna let anyone
with an
opposing view talk because it's
settled
it's done the science is in
it's not how science works it
does on
NBC
this baffles me it doesn't
bother me at
all that they'll push anything
anything
they can anything I have so I'm
listening around going around
looking
for some a little offbeat and
so I ran
into a podcast that's where you
can find
the offbeat stuff for sure this
podcast
is done by David Axelrod oh
goody
former chief of staff for Obama
now Axelrod there's also a
campaigning
manager yes more excellence yes
he is
who I don't know who does his
podcast
but it took me a good 15
minutes to
equalize that one guy shouting
why did
you do that why did you why did
you ruin
the original we could have so
much fun
listening to this production
because I'm not taking the
chance on you
grousing about okay it was just
like
completely out of control but I
normalized it enough that it's
listenable
this is Axelrod with of all
people Jeff
Zucker ooh from CNN yeah former
Suffern
Suffern had a big treating
career and I
didn't realize he's had cancer
and a
heart operation he had Bell's
palsy and
he's had everything in his life
he's
only a short guy six five six
and it
talks about it you know in this
podcast
there's a very good podcast
people
should look it up just look up
Axelrod
Tucker podcast I have two clips
which
indicate to me that either
Zucker
doesn't know what he's talking
about or
he's naive or I don't know what
but
they're very interesting
because he was
very successful as an executive
at NBC
before he took over the place
in other
words a low-level guy he was
much better
than he was when he's running
things he
doesn't want to put Leno on
every night
at 10:00 you have any clue it's
great
Network good work
but let's listen talk about him
on he
did fix it to the Today Show by
being
one of the execs there and I
want to
play two clips from him this
one is the
two events click the clip clip
now there
were two events that also
really helped
us change the dynamic of the
Today Show
the OJ Simpson trial in 1995 I
think we
recognized early on that this
was going
to be a real cultural touch
point and we
we covered it intensely and and
did you
know went all in on coverage of
this
which is a theme that I would
later
reprise at CNN when we would go
all in
on a big story but the first
time we
ever did this was was on the OJ
Simpson
trial and Charlie Gibson was
the anchor
of GMA and he took shots at us
in in the
newspapers by saying I can't
believe how
much coverage of OJ Simpson
they're
doing and and my response was
well it's
interesting it's good and the
audience
wants it and then and then the
other and
then the next thing that
happened was
like so anyway when he was at
NBC and
promoted the OJ Simpson trial
and NBC
picked up on it the whole thing
mm-hmm
that dribbled up to the to the
Tonight
Show with Jay Leno who was
trailing
David Letterman during this era
and Leno
went all in on the Simpson
trial by
having the dancing itõs a
whole bunch of
gimmicks and crazy stuff about
the
Letterman said that he refuses
to even
discuss it in his monologue
because it's
too you know creepy so he just
stayed
away from it completely Leno
went all in
the way Zucker did and Leno
overtook
Letterman and Letterman never
caught him
again after that ah okay and
and my
response was well it's
interesting it's
good and the audience wants it
and then
and then the other and then the
next
thing that happened was the 96
election
I'm sorry when I was supervising
producers that I need to
election the
first one was the 92 election
when I
took over I'm sorry 1992
elections yeah
and that was an incredibly
exciting
election because there were
three
candidates right Russ Roslyn
right and
we actually had a tremendous in
with
Ross Perot and so we recognized
his
popularity very early on and we
had Ross
Perot on all the time before
anybody
else did and the other thing is
then we
would start having Bill Clinton
on for
these hour-long interviews when
the when
the history of interviews with
candidates was you'd have him
on for
five minutes okay we had him on
for an
hour and then we had Imams
uniquely
qualified by doing huh he was
okay but
we took advantage of that and
then we'd
have Bill Clinton on for two
hours so
the entire Today Show was two
hours we'd
have Ross Perot on for an hour
more two
hours and so it was like nobody
could
believe that this is what the
Today Show
was doing but they were talking
about us
we were getting we were getting
notices
we were relevant in a way we
hadn't been
and so that is how we changed
up the
Today Show hmm interesting so
he's the
one that pushed the the Clinton
thing
sure I then had Ross Perot as
the
spoiler that take votes away
from George
HW would meant Clinton got
elected in 92
I think a lot of it had to do
with this
guy Zucker giving these guys
this much
free airtime two hours the
whole show
free to clean he didn't pay for
it yes
but but the brilliance of it is
by
splitting the Republican vote
with Ross
Perot you know he wins in both
ways he
wins by helping Clinton get
elected and
he looks like he's unbiased
because he
has two opposing candidates on
and I'm
sure he invited George HW Bush
you
wouldn't do an hour
he may be five-six but he was
smart
now he still doesn't realize
the power
of television when he gives us
this
anecdote because he denies that
all the
excessive coverage of Trump had
nothing
to do with this election he's
got some
rational ID some rational
rationalities
to it okay and so let's play
the other
clip and when he came down the
escalator
and did his thing what was your
reaction
so my reaction was you know
stop I want
to do a little background
sucker was the
guy who helped create the show
The
Apprentice starring Donald
Trump oh
that's good but I didn't know
that and
he was a big he was friends
with Trump
and he he's always saw Trump as
a
natural charismatic guy who
always
people just liked him and for
no good
reason than him often and he
would and
he used that he leveraged I
says nobody
else wanted to show The
Apprentice but
he knew it was gonna be a hit
because
this guy Trump was a natural at
promoting and self promoting
and getting
publicity that they didn't have
to pay
for and this stuff like that so
he was a
kind of a Trump fan from that
perspective start this clip
over please
and when he came down the
escalator and
did his thing what was your
reaction so
my reaction was you know the
contents of
that speech aside when he
announced was
that look I think that I
recognized his
popular appeal I think that I
understood
from The Apprentice and
watching him and
all of that that there was a
there was a
something about Trump and his
and his
character that was popular and
I thought
would would work and I do think
that
that's one of the reasons that
that I
had CNN pay attention right
away to
Donald Trump because I think at
a time
if you go back the first couple
months
most national news media
organizations
did not take it very seriously
CNN did
right away and we turned out to
be right
well some would argue that it
was a that
that it's a chicken and egg
thing that
part of what CNN did was help
yeah III
disagree with that and I'll
tell you why
you know he announces comes
down the
escalator announces and three
weeks
later he's number one in the
polls in
the Republican Party and he and
he holds
on to that till he becomes the
Republican nominee so he was he
was the
favorite among that entire
field three
weeks in so I don't think that
CNN made
him number one in three weeks
okay I
think that he had that appeal
and and
and we were covering the
front-runner we
would cover the front-runner
disproportionately in in any
race so III
don't I don't you said
something earlier
in our discussion here that
struck me
and it leads to a question
about this
and television generally you
said the
audience wants it and that is
obviously
something that's always in your
head
Donald Trump understands that
if you
light yourself on fire
that's good TV so look you
understand
that as well and you needed
that they
were that was good for CNN was
it not
well look I'm not gonna
apologize I
think what a lot of people want
is for
you know people to say that you
do you
shouldn't you should apologize
for
giving the audience what they're
interested in this goes back to
the
plane and and we took a lot of
heat for
the poop cruise at one time
listen I
think what we have always done
whether
it was at the Today Show or CNN
is we've
never been above what the
audience is
interested in and I think this
idea that
you know you should only feed
the
audience spinach and you should
tell
them what's important I reject
that Wow
first of all he's full of crap
but so
are you a news organization or
an
entertainment units of Time
Warner seems
like just pure entertainment
he's only
talking about what the audience
wants
not what is Newton's I didn't
hear the
word news once no sounds like
there was
collusion to CNN helped Trump
get
elected he's kind of saying it
well he's
kind of trying not to say it
yeah he's choosing his words
very
carefully very very carefully I
predict
for this year John will
probably be
seeing a lot more of us
clipping stuff
from podcasts I really do I
really do
because the real inner material
you get
some in-depth people that when
you're
doing a podcast is different
than being
another day oh oh oh yeah
camera in your
face and all these things yep
media
deconstruction will be more
podcasts in
2019 I'm feeling it and
secretly a
little proud of that actually
yes meet
up tomorrow the Gillman Brewing
Company
in Berkeley a Friday that's
five to
eight Gillman brewing is on
Beacon it's
very famous plays and with that
we've
come to the end of today's
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certainly
thanks
not bad at all I think the
Attic could
run that expunged on we should
just
click over ahead what would I
be doing
if we had if I had actually
quit the
podcast Alex thousand shows
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