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you are the gadfly of Silicon
Valley
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Adam curry this is no agenda in
the
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morning everybody hi Madame
Curie and
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from northern Silicon Valley
where 1100
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is a lucky number
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I'm Jesse Devorah lucky
according to
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lucky people ah really
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all right
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well Happy New Year John Happy
New Year
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do you happy news all the
producers yes
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and boots and sea ships feet on
the
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ground exactly what now you
celebrated
0:52
Christmas yes the Dvorak family
never
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ceases to amaze traveling
around you
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know the kids are open skiing
and so we
1:01
had their wait to learn we got
together
1:03
ok what did you get
1:06
I got a bunch of just a lot of
1:08
miscellany a but including of
number of
1:11
things that I've been I guess
hinting
1:13
about um I also got a lamp that
I needed
1:17
a big one but including
verjuice and a
1:21
bunch of what kind of juice
what kind of
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juice verjuice ver heavy er
juice what's
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verjuice it is the juice of
unripened
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grapes Don do you make wine out
of that
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no no no you use it like a
vinegar
1:38
substitute Oh such a sour
should have
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read the book
1:43
I know well I spent New Year's
Day
1:51
actually the 31st and New
Year's Day and
1:56
yesterday rebuilding my surface
gold
1:59
laptop tablet thing ah that
wasn't that
2:04
was a nightmare so how do you
rebuild it
2:07
you just well our chance to
screen put a
2:10
new keyboard on it this is what
happened
2:13
you know when I got that thing
was
2:15
somewhere in between the 1803
and 1804
2:18
update and I got it and then
retracted
2:20
it and so anyway at a certain
point the
2:23
you know the the 31st I turned
on the
2:26
morning boom Master Boot Record
2:27
corrupted blue screens I have
this
2:32
Acronis product which will help
me
2:34
restore no problem and I that
you were
2:37
supposed to be able to restore
from the
2:39
cloud well I bet you that
worked great
2:44
it would have worked great were
it not
2:47
that the product here's the
problem the
2:49
way it works is you use their
software
2:52
and then it's gonna reboot and
then it
2:54
goes into some low-level thing
and then
2:56
it'll suck everything down from
the
2:57
cloud and restore it which I
think does
3:00
actually work
3:02
unfortunately the product is
looking for
3:04
your network interface card
your NIC
3:07
card at a very low level and
the surface
3:09
only has a USB C and Wi-Fi so I
had an
3:12
Ethernet dongle but it won't do
that it
3:14
doesn't recognize it yeah she's
looking
3:18
low-level and then it say oh I
can't
3:19
find one and then it just
restarts or
3:21
tries to restart so you have a
code on
3:23
it no it's it's not low-level
enough it
3:25
has to be somehow you know
different
3:28
like an internal card not an
external
3:30
thing well that's a security
thing
3:32
obviously yeah well it was not
great
3:36
hold on a second yeah here's
the problem
3:38
with it would say was you're
being nice
3:40
about this mm-hmm
3:41
it seems to me that you went to
the
3:44
cloud through that device
3:47
eventually yes eventually yeah
but when
3:50
you went to the cloud to move
the stuff
3:51
there oh yes it uploaded it no
problem
3:54
sure well if it uploaded it
should have
3:56
seen at the time at that moment
it
3:59
should have looked for this did
this
4:01
low-level number and said
serial number
4:04
said hey wait a minute this is
something
4:06
different and then quiz the
machine you
4:08
know okay okay we'll put it
we'll put an
4:10
exception flag up yeah ten of
that and
4:13
so when he asked that do the
read the
4:15
reload no problem it shouldn't
be a
4:18
problem at all it was so white
why
4:20
wasn't that accomplished is the
question
4:22
I'd be asking
4:23
yeah well the I've left some
support
4:26
notices your product is and
does not
4:29
work does not work on this
particular
4:31
day now it works with a with a
hard
4:33
drive backup but I already did
that of
4:35
the studio machine I've cloned
the drive
4:37
of the machine after every show
so if
4:39
there's a problem I just swap
out the
4:40
drive we're back on the air but
I had
4:42
kind of built this thing up my
life was
4:44
in it but although all my files
were
4:46
available on the cloud I did
have to
4:48
reinstall windows 10 and rebuild
4:51
everything and you know what
that's like
4:53
registration codes anyway so
spent a lot
4:59
of time on there she met
registry issues
5:01
though all kinds of stuff but
man the
5:05
thing is much faster once I put
Windows
5:07
10 on and again thinking I
don't know
5:10
maybe because I had the messed
up
5:13
updated thing ah yeah I can see
that
5:16
actually I think I believe it
has
5:19
happened yeah and it BitLocker
that's
5:21
where it is a bit Locker that's
what
5:23
screwed me up
5:24
troll room knows what it is so
my first
5:26
real um disaster recovery with
Windows
5:31
the first of many I'm sure but
at least
5:33
I know what not to do
5:35
to trust the damn cloud stupid
ugly
5:38
stupid yes a number of
interesting
5:43
events New Year's Eve
5:45
in the Netherlands you know if
people
5:49
never been to the Netherlands
and
5:50
certainly not around new years
the Dutch
5:53
are very docile quiet calm
people
5:57
but around New Year's and it's
legal
6:02
people go apeshit and they let
it all
6:05
out and they do that with
fireworks
6:06
you're allowed to buy fireworks
set them
6:09
off anywhere shoot them at
people and
6:11
shoot them at people and here's
a
6:13
facebook video with just a
little
6:16
compilation Knoll thing is like
five
6:18
minutes just about 45 seconds
and this
6:20
is made up of YouTube video so
it's not
6:23
a you know not a professionally
produced
6:25
piece but it's just YouTube
videos you
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did indeed just witness a man
fire
6:35
rocket from his ass cheeks to
you this
6:38
might seem a little crazy or
even
6:40
borderline and singing but to
the Dutch
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it's just another New Year's
6:49
the Netherlands 364 days of the
year is
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quite peaceful normally the
closest the
6:55
average Dutch he gets to war or
or loss
6:57
is a Picacho or loss on the
31st of
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December this all changes their
most
7:03
beloved New Year's tradition is
making
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their safe little country like a
7:14
[Music]
7:22
I get the idea I mean is that my
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favorite is always the car bite
milk
7:28
cannons you know they got the
big metal
7:32
milk containers yeah with the
top on it
7:35
and so they Jam it full of is
it car car
7:39
bite is that it curb violence
yeah
7:42
anyway this year which I think
has
7:45
happened before they build a
big bonfire
7:46
on the beach of spinning it and
they
7:50
make it out of wooden pallets
and this
7:53
year they decided to go for a
record a
7:55
150 feet high
7:57
Tower of pallets what could
possibly go
8:00
wrong so they they light this
thing
8:03
New Year's Eve and because of
you know
8:06
the kind of the funnel nature
it it
8:08
created what they're calling
the fire
8:11
NATO and this is the wind
caught it just
8:15
in a you know spiraled up
through this
8:17
through this 150 foot structure
and
8:19
spewed out flaming you know
bits all
8:24
over the city because of course
the wind
8:26
turned there were rooves
catching on
8:29
fire people's clothing on
fighters
8:31
walking down the streets
they're on fire
8:35
yeah you think that they'd pass
some
8:37
legislation concerning this you
can't
8:40
mess with the Dutch when it
comes to
8:41
what they do on New Year's they
get
8:43
insane they need it's like they
need it
8:45
they need it they need to blow
stuff up
8:47
and get all the aggression if
they put
8:50
the clamps on that they'd be a
little
8:52
more aggressive during the rest
of the
8:54
year sure they would so anyway
record
8:58
number of fires all over the
country
9:00
people destroying stuff it's
very very
9:03
sad what happens what goes on
in the
9:05
Netherlands
9:06
sounds like Auckland in France
McCall
9:10
had his New Year's address
where he made
9:12
very sure that everyone
understood that
9:14
what's going on is not just
people who
9:16
are unhappy but it's clearly
terrorists
9:19
and other horrible people
right-wingers
9:21
I guess French president
Immanuel McCoy
9:24
has used his New Year's Eve
speech to
9:26
acknowledge the anger which has
exploded
9:28
in the country but warmed
extremist
9:30
elements some take as a pretext
that
9:32
they speak in the name of the
people but
9:35
what people where how in
reality given
9:38
there are nothing but to make a
phone
9:40
for a crowd full of atreus rail
against
9:42
elected representatives force
of other
9:45
journalists Jews foreigners
almost
9:47
sexual that's the negation of
the people
9:52
who were actually protesting
hate Jews
9:55
homosexuals migrants okay
there's no
9:59
pissed-off Frenchman I guess
that's bull
10:02
crisp as jean provocateurs a
little
10:05
twisted slant to the news in
the u.s. we
10:09
had
10:11
a joke gone kind of wrong
Strategic
10:14
Command which oversees
America's nuclear
10:16
and missile arsenal has apollon
this is
10:18
a Japanese television reporting
choice
10:20
for tweeting that it was ready
if
10:23
necessary to drop something
much much
10:25
bigger than the New Year's Eve
countdown
10:28
ball the annual countdown in
New York's
10:35
Times Square
10:36
uh sure Zinn the New Year with a
10:38
brightly lit ball descending
down a
10:40
special flagpole the message
was posted
10:43
with a video of a b-2 stealth
bomber
10:46
dropping bombs the tweet was
deleted
10:48
after drawing a wave of
criticism and
10:51
replaced with an apology that
said the
10:53
previous tweet was in poor
taste and did
10:56
not reflect the commands values
yeah yet
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does somebody's values
reflected them
11:04
perfectly as far as I'm
concerned
11:07
exactly what our values are war
stuff
11:09
yeah did you see any of the
television
11:12
shows that were that were on
during New
11:14
Year's I flipped a few of them
flipped
11:17
around a few of them I gave up
I mean it
11:19
was like second-rate bands Jenny
11:23
McCarthy announcing these
people had
11:26
never heard of any of them a
lot of
11:28
lip-synching crap and people
jumping up
11:31
and down and it was just like
no it was
11:34
terror I've got me it was
unwatchable
11:36
yes CNN did their annual
Anderson
11:38
Cooper's drunk with somebody
else and
11:40
for this it was at the second
or third
11:42
year in a row Andy Cohen gay
production
11:46
television production icon
producer of
11:48
The Real Housewives series and
yeah
11:53
there's only it was 40 degrees
and rain
11:56
it's really miserable in New
York when
11:58
it's like that it's just
miserable in
12:00
there and so they're drinking
their did
12:02
and it was just all gay jokes
just gay
12:04
gay gay and then share call
then was
12:07
just gay or than gay like okay
can we
12:10
have a dumb look just something
12:11
different for a second no is not
12:13
possible switch to NBC
12:16
there's Carson Daly and he's
hosted
12:21
co-hosting with him is John
Legend's
12:24
wife what's her name Christy
tigon
12:27
kuu is a model and I think she
jumped
12:30
the shark man you know these
people
12:33
should not be hosting anything
talking
12:36
about vaginal steaming and the
you know
12:38
at quarter to midnight when
families
12:40
might be watching and then they
they
12:43
they succeeded to miss the ball
drop
12:46
shot they missed the actual
last three
12:51
it's unbelievable it was really
bad and
12:54
I yearned for Dick Clark you
know just
12:56
just boring make it boring put
some put
12:59
some some guests on show a
party no they
13:02
force all these performers to
perform in
13:06
the rain with their you know
with just
13:08
their their their their regular
track
13:11
date backing tape CPS pulled
the plug on
13:15
all this stuff notably regular
13:17
programming yeah they probably
got
13:19
better ratings it was just a
shit show
13:21
but here's here's what blew me
away did
13:25
you know that New York Times
Square
13:30
and China specifically the city
of
13:34
Chongqing it pretty much
commercialized
13:38
the whole celebration at Times
Square it
13:42
was a complete bought and paid
for
13:43
Chinese operation oh and they
had a
13:47
stage that had the main stage
they had
13:49
their own telecast and yeah a
couple
13:51
hours before midnight the score
the
13:54
Times Square wasn't it already
New
13:57
Year's the day before in China
here's a
13:59
couple of clips from this from
this
14:01
presentation welcome to Times
Square
14:08
2019 the Koba celebration at the
14:11
crossroads of the world please
direct
14:15
your attention to the top of
one Times
14:17
Square as representatives of
Chongqing
14:20
China and Times Square New
Year's Eve
14:22
flip the switch the light the
New Year's
14:25
Eve Ball so they powered the
ball this
14:28
year
14:29
the city of Chongqing powered
the ball
14:32
and they had more Lily that
dragon dance
14:34
earlier was so beautiful and
despite all
14:37
the rain they still rocked it
perfectly
14:38
was very impressive definitely
thank you
14:40
very much
14:41
the show just came from China
the city
14:44
of Chongqing and the is culture
history
14:47
has really inspired it to
become a major
14:50
international City and the
center of
14:53
industrial and automotive
innovation
14:56
look at the car right there in
Han
14:59
Square Chinese piece of junk
twirling
15:02
around we got beautiful cars
for you I
15:08
found this to be rather
flabbergasting
15:12
that the Chinese just own New
Year's Eve
15:14
on Times Square and come visit
us please
15:17
sounds amazing and I would
rather go to
15:19
Chongqing in 2019 I'd love to
go to
15:21
China
15:23
yeah it's a good idea to you
know
15:27
Constantine have over 80
international
15:30
direct flights connecting with
the world
15:33
including the city of New York
and I oh
15:43
shit la I touched it AOA and
then they
15:45
had the Ambassador to Chung
Chung King
15:48
on hand he gave a little New
Year's
15:51
greeting hello I encourage all
of you to
16:02
visit the China in 2019 reach
out to
16:07
each civilization and make more
Chinese
16:11
of friends in this gobo age our
global
16:15
village and then the final guy
they
16:24
brought on was I don't even
know who he
16:26
was he was important you know
this you
16:28
know do you got it there's like
five
16:29
Chinese officials standing that
I don't
16:32
know who they were they had
their route
16:33
you know just standing at
attention and
16:35
this guy okay it's time for him
to come
16:37
over he comes over boughs grabs
the mic
16:39
now I would like to you might a
walking
16:41
boy
16:41
to share his greetings with us
coming
16:44
for you all
16:45
she never liked the baby the
two got
16:50
some change
16:50
Santa Santa actually seen yet
one hope
16:54
some change
16:56
Sissoko create our intercessor
Geo
16:59
Santana you Judas the same way
in battle
17:04
Constantine yo Sasha went sumo
poetry
17:08
puro go synteny Sawada oh
that's what
17:14
that we said what kill ye o man
yeah
17:21
Times Square 2019 owned by
China no one
17:25
mentioned that
17:28
well they weren't about to
measure the
17:31
Chinese no I can't even I think
that
17:33
town that Sean Xin whatever it
is is uh
17:36
what's one of those ramanga
cities
17:38
decisive Shanghai in the middle
of
17:40
nowhere
17:41
yes that's what they got a dead
a
17:43
promotional video and
everything you can
17:47
go if anyone wants to go there
I'd
17:48
recommend it but you have to
remember
17:51
you're gonna be the only white
person
17:52
there alright we've gone either
I black
17:55
listener maybe maybe you're a
black guy
17:57
yeah do steel right at home by
the way
18:00
yeah if you're anything if
you're Latino
18:03
you be the only Latino there
18:07
I don't know it looks like
there's a lot
18:09
of trade going on I bet there's
a lot of
18:11
there's a lot of trade you a
lot of
18:12
foreign there's a lot of
foreigners in
18:14
fact I got some only thing I
have that's
18:20
kind of interesting right along
those
18:22
lines is Boston ro Boston an ro
the
18:26
Brazilian guy oh yes gonna do
he's doing
18:30
a bilateral deal with China
he's Brazil
18:32
is gonna be she's gonna be till
the
18:36
Chinese goods play Boston rof
24 next on
18:40
his first day in office
Brazil's that
18:42
new president Jay el bolson ro
has got
18:44
straight down to work issuing a
series
18:46
of decrees on the economy
agriculture
18:48
and the society both Naro
former Army
18:52
captain was sworn in on Tuesdays
18:53
Brazil's first far-right
president since
18:55
the military dictatorship gave
way to
18:58
civilian rule back in 1985 the
country's
19:01
new leader was elected on a
promise of
19:03
cleaning up Brazilian politics
and has
19:05
the Justice Minister has been
bolstered
19:07
up to fight grasp and battle
urbanized
19:10
crime listen to Elliott reports
from
19:12
Brasilia today he met with the
US
19:15
Secretary of State also a
former Army
19:18
captain Mike Pompeo described a
new
19:21
transformative relationship
with Brazil
19:23
and he then went on to meet
Brazil's new
19:25
foreign minister where they
discussed
19:26
the issue of Venezuela now
Boston ro is
19:29
a nationalist he is an avid
user of
19:32
social media and of course he
despises
19:34
political correctness so
comparisons
19:36
have often been drawn between
him and US
19:39
President Donald Trump but
really Brazil
19:41
historically while it's had
cordial ties
19:43
with the u.s. they've been
nonetheless
19:45
fairly fairly cold fairly Feli
not very
19:48
profound really Brazil has
focused its
19:50
energy on bilateral trade with
China
19:53
China is now Brazil's biggest
trading
19:55
partner and it'll be
interesting to see
19:57
how that trade dynamic plays
out given
20:00
the trade war between the US
and China
20:01
already China is buying more
Brazilian
20:03
soya beans to offset American
trade
20:06
tariffs bastards
20:08
they're cutting our business
yeah is
20:12
this is this guy Bo Sona Boston
ro
20:16
Boston ro
20:19
is he considered right-wing I
just heard
20:22
a Nazi oh yes okay got it got
it got it
20:27
got it big fan of the oldest
military
20:29
dictatorship hmm something of
an a-hole
20:32
but in the course the way
democracy now
20:34
have a second clip presents it
also gets
20:37
is put in a little piece of
propaganda
20:38
god this is a shorter clip but
this is
20:42
just hi actually I want to make
this a
20:43
quiz see oh no no don't make
this a quiz
20:47
I got another quiz for you but
just
20:48
listen to the way Amy likes to
slip in a
20:52
little propaganda going to
restore order
20:55
in this country we are aware of
this
20:57
awesome ability adn yeah
21:01
okay it's very short is very it
21
21:04
seconds yeah yeah okay going to
restore
21:07
order in this country we are
aware of
21:09
this awesome responsibility and
the
21:11
challenges that we will face we
know
21:13
where we want to go and the
potential
21:15
that Brazil has many fear
Brazil's young
21:17
democracy is now at risk for
years
21:19
Bolson otto has praised
Brazil's former
21:21
military dictatorship while
speaking in
21:23
favor of torture and
threatening to
21:24
destroy him prisoner banished
his
21:26
political opponents
21:29
nah I'm not sure what I was
supposed to
21:31
hear well what it was it went
on IG
21:34
clipped it poorly sorry no it
went on to
21:36
go on about how bowling she may
never
21:39
met with the Boeing guy and the
new
21:43
veneer the DoD Department of
Defense yes
21:46
the new Boeing guy was a
munitions
21:48
company oh she did that again
yeah
21:52
oh yes didn't didn't we play
that last
21:54
time it was a different clip
does it
21:57
over and over she keeps doing
that how
21:58
Boeing is just a weapons
company it's
22:01
true it while true that
typically isn't
22:03
what you say no it's not how
you do know
22:08
there's a weapons company jet I
was
22:12
thinking about the the DoD
audit and how
22:15
long this has been going on and
and you
22:19
know just just what the hell is
is
22:21
happening with our Department of
22:22
Defense's where all our money
goes every
22:25
single drop of it pretty much
700
22:28
billion dollars and I found a
report
22:32
that has been going on for a
long time
22:34
from 2005 when Rumsfeld was
22:42
he was the Secretary of Defense
Donald
22:44
Rumsfeld under Bush and this is
you'll
22:50
recall September yes September
10 2001
22:55
we found out that 2.3 trillion
dollars
22:58
was missing or was unaccounted
for at
23:01
the Department of Defense and I
think in
23:03
this clip they even mentioned
that that
23:04
was just for one year only that
wasn't
23:07
you know for a couple years
that was one
23:09
year I don't understand how
that works
23:10
but I just want to play this
this report
23:13
from CBS from 2005 had agon the
day
23:17
before 911 Defense Donald
Rumsfeld
23:20
declared war not on foreign
terrorists
23:23
the adversaries closer to home
it's the
23:26
Pentagon bureaucracy
23:28
he said money wasted by the
military
23:30
poses a serious threat in fact
it could
23:33
be said that it's a matter of
life and
23:34
death
23:34
Rumsfeld promised change but
the next
23:37
day the world changed and in
the rush to
23:42
fund the war on terrorism the
war on
23:44
waste seems to have been
forgotten my oh
23:47
three budget calls for more
than I like
23:50
how they called the war on
waste instead
23:52
of the war on theft but okay 48
billion
23:55
dollars in new defense spending
more
23:56
money for the Pentagon when its
own
23:58
auditors admit the military
cannot
24:00
account for 25% of what it
already
24:03
spends according to some
estimates we
24:05
cannot track 2.3 trillion
dollars in
24:08
transactions 2.3 trillion with
a tea
24:11
that's $8,000 for every man
woman and
24:15
child in America to understand
how the
24:17
Pentagon can lose track of
trillions
24:19
consider the case of one
military
24:22
accountant who tried to find
out what
24:23
happened to a mere 300 million
we know
24:26
it's gone but we don't know
what they
24:28
spend it on Jim Murray a former
marine
24:30
turned whistleblower is risking
his job
24:32
by speaking out for the first
time about
24:35
the millions he noticed we're
missing
24:37
from one defense agency's
balance sheets
24:39
memory tried to follow the
money trail
24:41
even Criss crossing the country
looking
24:44
for records the director looked
at me
24:46
says why do you care about this
stuff
24:53
I care about doing a good shot
he was
24:56
reassigned and says officials
then
24:58
covered up the problem by just
writing
25:01
it off they gotta cover it up
that's
25:03
where the corruption comes in
they've
25:05
got to cover up the fact that
they can't
25:06
do the job
25:07
the Pentagon's Inspector General
25:09
partially substantiated several
of
25:11
memories allegations but could
not prove
25:13
officials tried to manipulate
the
25:15
financial statements twenty
years ago
25:17
Pentagon employee Franklin C
Spinney
25:20
made headlines exposing what he
calls
25:22
the accounting games I'm still
there and
25:25
although he does not speak for
the
25:26
Pentagon he believes the
problem has
25:28
gotten worse those numbers are
pie in
25:30
the sky that books are cooked
routinely
25:32
year after year after year
retired Vice
25:35
Admiral Jack Shanahan commanded
the
25:37
Navy's second fleet the first
time
25:39
Donald Rumsfeld served as
defense
25:40
secretary with good financial
oversight
25:44
we could find 48 billion
dollars it was
25:48
changed in that building
without having
25:49
to hit the taxpayers it's been
going on
25:52
for a while I forgot about it
how long
25:55
it's been going on that we
don't know
25:56
what forever and there was once
gets the
25:58
biggest scandal in the country
nobody
26:00
seems to want to pay attention
to it
26:02
nobody discusses it it's not on
the
26:04
campaign trail you don't hear
Elizabeth
26:06
Warren talking about it there
was a
26:09
Democrat who made a big stink
about this
26:12
and subsequently pretty much got
26:15
disappeared from life do you
remember
26:17
who that was a woman
26:20
no not offhand
26:24
makini
26:27
makini yes from Georgia
26:31
Democrat oh the black Democrat
McKinney
26:34
she made a fuss secretary
according to
26:37
the Comptroller General of the
United
26:38
States there are serious
financial
26:41
management problems at the
Pentagon to
26:44
which mr. Cooper alluded fiscal
year
26:46
1999 two point three trillion
missing
26:49
fiscal year 2000 1.1 trillion
missing
26:53
and the OD is the number one
reason why
26:56
the government can't balance his
26:58
checkbook the Pentagon has
claimed year
27:01
after year but the reason it
can't
27:03
account for the money is
because it's
27:04
computers don't communicate
with each
27:06
other
27:07
my second question mr.
secretary is who
27:10
has the contracts today to make
those
27:13
systems communicate with each
other how
27:16
long have they had those
contracts and
27:18
how much have the taxpayers
paid for
27:21
them thank you representative
the second
27:26
question I've forgotten what
the second
27:30
question was I think miss Jonas
knows it
27:33
okay thank you Miss we Kenny I
27:38
appreciate the question I
appreciate
27:39
your interest in the
department's
27:41
financial condition and we are
working
27:43
very hard on that program I
just come
27:45
back I understand that you're
working
27:47
hard on it my question was who
has the
27:50
contract how long has that they
had that
27:53
contract and how much money
have we
27:55
spent on it
27:56
in general we spend about 20
billion
27:58
dollars in the department on
information
28:00
technology systems the the
accounting
28:04
systems are part of that I can
get you
28:06
the exact number for the record
of what
28:09
we spend on our current what we
call
28:10
legacy systems
28:12
and those that were moving
toward and
28:14
who has the contracts
28:16
that would be a multitude of
individuals
28:18
that you name sound please well
I think
28:21
that's the top of the head well
I would
28:24
that's not privileged
information
28:28
look please we still have time
so please
28:32
I would be glad to provide for
the
28:35
record I don't want to talk
from the top
28:37
of my head correct yes so they
were
28:39
spending 20 billion dollars on
their
28:43
bookkeeping legacy systems in
two
28:46
thousand five or six this is
and Cynthia
28:50
McKinney
28:51
I think she's teaching at the
University
28:53
of Bangladesh and I'm not
kidding I'm
28:56
not kidding she's just gone
this is the
29:01
real problem I said was the
problem yeah
29:05
yeah it's it's the problem it's
stealing
29:08
our money that's it around
their buddies
29:12
and then kind of losing track
of it
29:14
obviously and this kind of to
lose track
29:16
of it to steal it and it cuts
but it is
29:19
it's tough to your rights theft
not
29:20
waste and it plays into the
newsletter
29:25
in a way what's the newsletter
about
29:27
what's-his-face
29:30
everyone's talking about his
op-ed you
29:32
slam dreamt Romney Mitt Romney
Mitt
29:36
Romney or monger oh listen to
this I
29:39
wanna play this little bit
here's guys
29:40
Mitt Romney is a dick
29:43
he's a total douchebag I don't
want to
29:45
play this is talking about the
academic
29:47
industrial military complex I
have this
29:51
brute Bruce Ackerman this Bruce
Akram is
29:57
a professor at Yale and he was
on France
30:00
24 and he is branding the woman
is fed
30:06
up with him and he's ranting
about Trump
30:07
and he makes it he I will you
have to
30:11
listen to this is what the
academia
30:13
actually believes this is the
grant
30:17
number one President Trump has
proudly
30:22
taken responsibility for this
shutdown
30:27
everyone recognizes everyone
recognizes
30:30
that this is entirely
unnecessary only
30:34
to just today the new leader
the new de
30:37
facto leader of the Senate Mitt
Romney
30:40
wrote an opinion essay in The
Washington
30:43
Post condemning this as merely
posturing
30:48
and unnecessary everyone
recognizes that
30:51
President Trump is trying to
show the
30:55
world that he is still in
charge when he
30:58
isn't you know of course not we
know
31:02
who's really in charge the guys
with the
31:04
guns
31:07
we have Mitt Romney somehow
before even
31:09
takes office as Lee is the
leader he's a
31:12
junior senator who's gonna
suffer from
31:16
this by the way these guys this
doesn't
31:19
go over well with Matt with the
people
31:21
that are the leadership of
these up but
31:22
he's hot these traditional
houses I mean
31:26
that's what happened in fact I
just
31:27
wanted to jump around with that
theme
31:28
but today you have a Bruce
Ackerman to
31:31
clip where she runs him off
play that
31:34
but then I have to play one
other clip
31:36
UK held in a meeting now with
the
31:40
Democratic and Republican
leadership but
31:42
he has not actually reached out
them out
31:46
to them in advance to ask to
negotiate
31:49
terms you just don't bring them
into the
31:54
Situation Room in the White
House and
31:56
then expect to have a deal
without
32:00
preparatory preparatory
negotiations so
32:03
if the if unless he caves in in
an
32:11
obvious way unfortunately
32:14
my prediction is that this
shutdown will
32:17
continue for a while until he
recognizes
32:22
that he is making a fool of
himself
32:25
okay Bruce Ackerman your
professor at
32:27
Yale University thanks to your
time
32:29
today
32:30
yeah thanks dang guy by the way
is
32:32
responsible for the social
justice
32:33
warrior movement really I think
so he
32:36
should take a public speaking
class
32:38
while he's at school it's like
one
32:43
lecture but back to Romney I
want to
32:46
play this clip this is Romney
already
32:47
mouthing off on Democracy Now
incoming
32:50
Republican senator Mitt Romney
of Utah
32:52
writes president Trump has not
risen to
32:55
the mantle of the office in a
New Year's
32:57
Day the mantle let's just stop
there for
32:59
a second the mantle that's a is
that not
33:03
something that we used to refer
to kings
33:07
and the Pope you know the
mantle I am
33:13
wearing my mantle of ruler
33:15
shit yeah so why does Romney
consider
33:18
that to be a mantle or does he
think
33:20
Trump wants it to be mantle and
doesn't
33:22
know how to dotted wear it I
mean which
33:24
one is it I don't know I would
like to
33:27
have somebody out there to get
me the
33:29
genesis of why Romney hates
Trump to his
33:32
core
33:34
it's probably more personal than
33:36
anything the office in a New
Year's Day
33:42
op-ed published by The
Washington Post
33:44
Romney says he supports Trump's
policies
33:47
including tax cuts deregulation
33:49
appointment of conservative
judges to
33:51
federal court but Romney says
Trump has
33:53
failed to show honesty and
integrity as
33:55
president writing quote with
the nation
33:58
so divided resentful and angry
33:59
presidential leadership and
qualities of
34:01
character is indispensable and
it is in
34:04
this province where the
incumbent
34:05
shortfall has been most glaring
Romney's
34:08
among the freshmen members of
Congress
34:10
set to be sworn in by Vice
President
34:12
Mike Pence on Thursday um
Romney and his
34:16
little laundry list there
specifically
34:18
mentioned lowering taxes right
mm-hmm
34:20
here's here's Romney on
lowering taxes
34:23
in 2012 just a few years ago
that we can
34:26
afford to do a little bit more
to make
34:28
sure we're not blowing up the
deficit
34:29
the president began this
segment so I
34:31
think I get the last word so I
well but
34:35
but he gets the first word of
that
34:37
segment I get the last word
that's I let
34:42
me repeat let me repeat what I
said
34:44
I'm not in favor of a five
trillion
34:45
dollar tax cut that's not my
plan my
34:48
plan is not to put in place any
tax cut
34:50
that will add to the deficit
boom yeah
34:54
yeah so the guy's full of crap
of course
34:56
he also did say famously that
Russia was
35:00
the real problem
35:02
even though it isn't he was
already on
35:04
that tip way ahead of the game
yeah he
35:07
was true he'd read they'd read
him in a
35:10
little too soon too soon I have
a clip
35:13
of Romney where was he at on
some show
35:18
addressing the mantle etc and
listen to
35:23
the globalist words and terms
that he
35:26
uses particularly in regarding
what the
35:28
United States is because
according to
35:30
Romney we own it all the world
it's ours
35:34
you said that you were dismayed
by
35:36
President Trump's decision in
December
35:38
to pull troops out of Syria
which
35:41
resulted in the resignations of
mattis
35:43
and the special envoy to the
global
35:44
coalition to defeat Isis Brett
McGurk
35:46
the prattle the president says
we need
35:48
to get out of these foreign
35:49
entanglements and that's what
he ran on
35:50
what why is he making a mistake
35:52
well the reason that we're
involved in
35:55
the world is to make the world
safer
35:56
which is good for the world and
good for
35:59
us okay because we trade with
places
36:01
throughout the world we sell
products
36:02
throughout the world ah ah ha
we sell
36:05
products war products people
come and go
36:07
into our various countries and
we share
36:09
not only culture but education
36:10
technology innovation - whoa
did you
36:13
hear what he said listen
carefully to
36:16
this because we trade with
places
36:19
throughout the world we sell
products
36:20
throughout the world people
come and go
36:22
into our various countries and
we share
36:24
not only people come and go
into our
36:26
various countries various
countries call
36:36
this guy has because we trade
with
36:39
places we sell products
throughout the
36:42
world people come and go into
our
36:44
various countries and we share
not only
36:46
culture but education technology
36:48
innovation and so having a a
stable
36:50
world where we can conduct a
trade is a
36:53
very good thing for us and for
the world
36:54
okay he's talking about trade
trade
36:56
buying and selling our
countries trade
36:58
trade buy and sell trade and
and so
37:01
we're in Syria with a very small
37:02
footprint about 2,000 people
clearly to
37:04
trade to help our allies there
the Kurds
37:07
to trade and in some respects
to provide
37:10
some stability to that region
so that
37:12
Assad or air21 or the
37:14
the you know the the Iranians
don't rush
37:18
in and slaughter people I'm
sorry yeah
37:21
aren't the Turks in NATO aren't
they our
37:23
allies now you're worried about
them
37:25
slaughtering people and and
hurting our
37:28
allies slaughter our allies
slaughter
37:30
our allies the Turks so so so
pulling
37:32
out on a precipitous basis
without
37:34
interacting with em and and
coordinating
37:36
this with them and getting the
input for
37:38
instance from secretary mattis
is
37:40
something which i think is very
37:41
troubling to me and to a number
of
37:42
others just that just wants to
sell more
37:45
war stuff that guy is the worst
37:49
he is
37:52
how did he ever became the
nominee for
37:53
the Republican mine it is one
on me
37:55
money money
37:58
this guy's loaded you have
money you can
38:01
you can run parts of the country
38:05
when dislike money yeah
Bloomberg money
38:09
yeah Bloomberg wants to run - I
got to
38:12
put him on the list and he's
gonna run
38:16
under the midget party Oh God
38:19
don't do that there are short
people who
38:21
listen to the show you know I'm
sorry
38:23
everybody I really feel bad
about
38:26
meanwhile Oh Cassie Alexander
Ocasio
38:28
Cortez is making waves herself
yeah this
38:32
is very interesting but first
of all she
38:34
didn't get her committee her
selected oh
38:37
I have the clip good let's do
this
38:39
Pelosi cuts off AOC at the
knees climate
38:43
activists pushing for the
creation of a
38:45
green new deal committee when
Democrats
38:47
take control of the House this
week were
38:49
met with disappointment Friday
when
38:51
presumptive incoming House
Speaker Nancy
38:53
Pelosi announced the creation
of another
38:55
environmental panel instead the
Select
38:57
Committee on the crime climate
crisis is
38:59
set to be led by long-standing
Florida
39:02
Congress member Cathy castor
proponents
39:04
of the green New Deal have
argued the
39:06
panel will be too weak as it
will not
39:08
have legislative power and may
not have
39:11
subpoena power the proposal for
a green
39:13
new deal also sought to bar
Congress
39:15
members who accept money from
the fossil
39:17
fuel industry I think maybe
sighs not
39:21
just knees boom boom boom done
get out
39:24
he's not happening AOC and AOC
is
39:28
fighting back partner she
fights back
39:31
the worse it's gonna be for her
along
39:34
with the ROE Khanna a Democrat
from
39:37
California Oh rogue they are
opposing
39:39
the new rules package now I had
to look
39:42
in this because there wasn't
quite
39:43
familiar with it but the way
the House
39:45
of Representatives works is
they have
39:48
rules because you know they're
basically
39:50
they hold the purse strings so
they
39:51
determine who gets money and
you know
39:54
how much and where it goes
39:55
and they have a rule and one of
the
39:57
rules is currently under the
trump
39:59
administration it's called cut
go
40:02
so anything you want to spend
some warm
40:04
you want to spend some money
over here
40:06
you want to spend more money
than we
40:07
have you have to cut something
else
40:09
called cut go the Democrats
want to
40:13
change the rules which needs to
be voted
40:15
on by the whole house to Pago
Pago and
40:20
the pay-go rules means you have
to be
40:26
able so you don't cut but you
have to
40:29
have the money to pay for it
40:33
so that could come from many
many
40:34
different places but what
you're not
40:35
allowed to do under Pago is
just print
40:38
up money and that of course
doesn't fit
40:42
with the aoc plan because she
has said
40:44
even in a grooved green New
Deal the way
40:46
they're gonna pay for it is the
way we
40:48
paid for the Great Recession by
printing
40:51
up the money and when I think
we printed
40:54
up a trillion or two trillion
for that
40:56
and so she's going to vote
against the
40:58
rules package they owe that I
think you
41:01
don't then with it need like 18
to votes
41:03
to be against the rules package
and then
41:06
it won't pass it'll stay cut go
which
41:08
means even though the Democrats
will
41:10
have the house the rule will
remain in
41:12
place that if they want to
spend money
41:15
somewhere it has to be cut
somewhere
41:16
else so Cortes is really on the
she's
41:20
she's on the edge with this one
who she
41:22
can if she can get a couple
more people
41:23
to to participate
41:27
she's a troublemaker but I
think she's a
41:34
troublemaker I think it's fun
to watch
41:36
it's incredibly fun to watch if
she
41:38
really knows how Pelosi
operates no not
41:43
yet
41:44
she'll find out oh geez
daughter had
41:48
some comets that they recorded
locally
41:50
saying that's this she's the
documentary
41:52
filmmaker is not proposed whose
daughter
41:54
does be she says my mom could
cut your
41:56
head off and you wouldn't even
know
41:58
you're bleeding yeah and her
head is
42:04
gone and her head is gone
42:09
all right so that didn't care
of what
42:12
did I notice is one thing
that's not
42:14
being played in our news at all
and that
42:17
is the the old bromide the
Chinese like
42:21
to use when they get into
trouble mm-hmm
42:24
with us which is uh threatened
Taiwan oh
42:27
yes yes yes
42:29
French 24 this China China
Taiwan heats
42:33
up reunification is inevitable
she's in
42:37
pings message to Taiwan 40
years after
42:40
China ended its military
confrontation
42:42
with the island now the Chinese
42:44
president says use of force is
still on
42:47
the table
42:48
we're willing to negotiate
sincerely and
42:51
expand all our efforts in
striving for
42:54
the prospect of peaceful
reunification
42:56
ng woman but we do not promise
to
42:59
renounce the use of force and
reserve
43:03
the right to use all necessary
measures
43:06
Taiwan has never formally
declared
43:08
independence but has been self
governed
43:11
since 1949 when the
Nationalists fled to
43:14
the island after losing China's
Civil
43:17
War to the Communist Party
43:19
thirty years later in 1979
China made a
43:23
call for unification and ended
its
43:25
routine bombardment of the
island but
43:28
Beijing continues to see Taiwan
as a
43:30
rogue province and in recent
years has
43:33
conducted regular military
drills in the
43:35
region xi Jinping wants Taiwan
to come
43:38
under the same one country two
systems
43:40
policy as Hong Kong and Macau
not a
43:43
proposition rejected by the
Taiwanese
43:45
president I have to reaffirm
that Taiwan
43:50
will never accept the one
country two
43:52
systems policy and the majority
of
43:54
Taiwanese people will never
accept that
43:56
either the glances meanwhile
China has
43:59
been using diplomatic and
economic
44:01
pressure to sideline Taiwan on
the
44:03
global stage last year Beijing
convinced
44:07
El Salvador and the Dominican
Republic
44:09
to cut diplomatic ties with
Taipei whose
44:12
sovereignty is now recognized
by just 17
44:14
nations how is this any
different from
44:19
Russia and Putin and Crimea
44:24
this rig with as far as I mrs.
Farr
44:27
different first of all most of
the
44:29
people living on Taiwan are
Taiwanese
44:33
and they're they're not like a
bunch of
44:37
mandarins from Beijing living
there in
44:39
the Crimea was mostly Russians
okay and
44:43
I think that's a major
difference and so
44:45
if you had a referendum in
China and
44:47
Taiwan - mostly okay so so
China they
44:50
would vote no now you're
getting more
44:51
towards my point is this is
this is
44:54
China looking to annex re annex
or
44:58
whatever you want to call it at
I want
45:01
and as you pointed out no one's
talking
45:03
about it
45:06
they don't know what to talk
about they
45:08
don't know what to say or what
to think
45:09
this happened during the last
time this
45:11
was a real major situation
where these
45:14
two islands quill moyers quill
Moy and
45:18
Matsu these two islands that
were 1/2
45:21
owned by Taiwan and ones owned
by China
45:22
and this was during the Nixon
45:25
administration and it was gonna
be a
45:27
point of argument at the
debates what
45:31
are you gonna do if China you
know takes
45:33
over the other island because
they keep
45:35
kept threatening to do it and
it's just
45:39
there China pulls the stunt all
the time
45:41
they tend to pull it in
Republican
45:42
administrations hmm not sure
why that is
45:45
but I think it's because we're
I think
45:49
there's some concern that China
is you
45:51
know taking over the world why
do they
45:52
always stop short though they
always are
45:54
threatening this it keeps
coming back
45:55
and then they never really do
anything
45:59
well they have so many people
is the
46:01
problem hmm and if they ever did
46:04
something is probably nothing
we could
46:06
really do about it mm-hmm and I
don't
46:08
know what that may be a real
mess if
46:10
they detect Taiwan but when I
first time
46:12
I went to Taiwan which is
really in the
46:13
90s maybe the late eighties you
used to
46:15
get shirts made there oh yeah I
would
46:18
always get watch guy Korea
Korea Taiwan
46:20
yeah I used to get shirts made
in Hong
46:23
Kong but then now it's too
expensive
46:24
like really expensive and tell
us about
46:28
your shirts your shirt job
there were
46:31
special shirts there just
tailor made
46:34
shirts as all they are they
have nice
46:35
fabrics they're about 15 bucks
apiece
46:37
you forgetting nowadays are
more like 20
46:39
you're forgetting the most
important
46:41
part
46:43
you had these shirts made with
a special
46:45
breast pocket Oh No yes okay
sorry
46:49
you're right I had the I had my
own
46:51
pattern so I bring a pattern
over so I
46:53
want these shirts made with
these
46:55
pockets and I want to certain
you know
46:56
Perry Ellis patent his
shoulders and
47:00
there's a number of features I
like on
47:02
my shirts and so time I had
this huge
47:06
breast pockets that would
conveniently
47:08
hold a CD in the pocket and
disappear
47:12
down into the pocket perfectly
so if you
47:15
went to somebody's house and
you wanted
47:16
to steal some of their CDs you
could
47:19
easily put it in the pocket
know at one
47:21
point also have pockets that
fit a five
47:23
inch floppy yeah you are the
gadfly of
47:29
Silicon Valley a fantastic
custom-made
47:33
shirt you might as well do
something
47:34
custom yeah exactly
47:37
huge pocket what's that force
for my
47:39
floppy disk hey hey hey girls
want to
47:43
see my floppy very nice
47:47
anyway so that yeah Deb Taiwan
and Jen
47:49
South Korea or the places have
the
47:53
custom shirts made
inexpensively about
47:55
20 bucks maybe around there and
they'll
47:59
do anything so this this little
back and
48:04
forth with China is not being
covered at
48:06
all by our media and it's we're
all in
48:10
we've gotten about it Chinese
have been
48:12
putting the screws to everybody
who does
48:13
business with Taiwan the
Chinese are in
48:16
times they own Times Square I
mean come
48:19
on it's like there's a lot of
money
48:21
flowing the problem - no agenda
show is
48:24
not seeing anyone or Remini be
or any of
48:26
that nuts because we're banned
we are
48:29
actually blocked in China no it
doesn't
48:31
surprise me I have heard from
more than
48:33
a few people I can't tell
anyone - China
48:37
- check this because they can't
get the
48:38
show hmm so we're blocked for
what
48:42
reason we've been deep
platformed by
48:44
China why are we blocked in
China it's a
48:46
question it's just called D
platform
48:48
that sounds better
48:48
why are we D platform in China
what do
48:51
we have well how much China
coverage do
48:53
we even have this that
important more
48:54
than the mainstream one stories
enough
48:58
that's the problem I them
that's the
49:00
problem right there crazy
49:04
we actually I believe that our
show has
49:07
been D platformed multiple
times without
49:10
us really on what we've we've
seen the
49:12
results but we weren't able to
figure it
49:14
out and there is a study was
done a test
49:17
who did this
49:20
a report group called mg who
the hell
49:25
are these guys
49:26
I am GE you're under them some
sounds
49:29
fishy to be quite honest mg M
Jimmy see
49:33
what it stands for
49:34
mg about us anyway this is mg
they did a
49:39
test of speed o of spam of
emails and so
49:44
newsletters essentially being
sent to
49:48
Google Yahoo and what was the
an AOL
49:54
yeah yahoo email AOL email and
gmail
49:58
email and they tracked how many
50:02
newsletters went to spam during
the
50:06
period October 4th to November
6 and
50:09
especially 2 days before the
election
50:12
all right leaning entities as
they call
50:15
them in their study went to
spam all
50:19
interesting and so the
assertion here
50:22
actually I would say it's an
accusation
50:25
is that the email providers
were were
50:29
sending newsletters of
right-wing
50:31
candidates to spam and and if
you and if
50:35
you look on yahoo 70% or more
most 100
50:41
percent Josh Holly Rick Scott
Dean
50:43
Heller Mike Braun Kevin Cramer
all to
50:45
spam then you had the the
Democrats 0%
50:49
is it the same for AOL almost
the same
50:52
percentages Gmail was a little
better
50:55
but they still had a hundred
percent for
50:58
a couple of candidates going to
spam
51:01
and we know how this email game
we dealt
51:04
with it at me vo even pod show
me vo we
51:07
had to pay because we had
emails that
51:10
would go out if someone created
an
51:12
account or if you want to
retrieve your
51:14
password or a notification and
we just
51:17
happy we set that system up
we're
51:19
talking 2008 is six seven eight
51:21
somewhere six probably we just
set that
51:24
up and emails weren't arriving
which is
51:26
difficult if someone wants to
recover
51:27
their password and they were
all being
51:29
blocked not even getting
through not
51:31
even getting to spam because we
weren't
51:34
an official a mass email
provider which
51:37
apparently you need to be need
to be or
51:39
hire the services in order to
get
51:42
through to these companies on
an on any
51:44
scale other than an individual
it's a
51:48
tax and it's a kleiner perkins
company
51:51
to so we got a deal but still
it was
51:53
crazy we've had thousands a
month just
51:55
to be let through on email
51:57
well my let the last email I
sent out to
51:59
one that first show eleven
hundred we
52:01
ended up with a higher norm
rate we have
52:05
by a number of people that
report this
52:07
mmm-hmm a higher than normal
rate going
52:10
into the promotions box at
Google
52:15
yeah the promotions box that's
another
52:17
one yeah and how did you know
that just
52:19
feedback from people that you
know that
52:21
yeah yeah is it because this
would one
52:23
or two guys in particular say
there's
52:24
today's for your information
today's
52:26
email went into the regular box
today's
52:28
email went into promote its
gonna
52:30
feedback good feedback yeah so
it that
52:33
is a form of deep platforming
sadly yeah
52:38
even less because we've let but
holla
52:42
but we pay the know Jenna show
pays
52:44
MailChimp and they're in an
approved
52:47
emailer so we pay to get
through but
52:50
then on the other end we still
have
52:51
these companies going man we'll
throw
52:52
that into spam
52:55
and it could just be some some
algorithm
52:59
that looks for certain combos
of words
53:01
you tried to figure out what
these
53:03
combos are over the years and
I've
53:05
gotten a few of them you still
haven't
53:07
done the Trump is Trump socks
or you got
53:10
to do as a subject line to see
if
53:12
everyone gets it
53:13
Trump sucks test yeah it's the
TST
53:19
yeah maybe I might try it his
next
53:21
couple newsletter it's worth
it's worth
53:22
a shot could work the I've
always known
53:29
that it was the apps that is
that you
53:31
know let me step back for a
second
53:34
the thing that Facebook and
Twitter but
53:36
let's just keep it at Facebook
for a
53:37
second dang know at Google to
that
53:39
continuously say to everybody
is your
53:42
data is your data we don't sell
your
53:44
data your data belongs to you
it's your
53:46
data your edit your data your
data it
53:48
the term data is very
misleading in this
53:51
the term data refers to stuff
you post
53:54
and your photos etc that's
really what
53:58
they're talking about when they
say your
54:00
data but the data that is
created by
54:03
actions you take that you don't
actually
54:05
know is inherently not your data
54:08
according to Silicon Valley and
they
54:10
don't tell you about it and
I've always
54:12
thought that you know the issue
with the
54:16
with tracking from Silicon
Valley mainly
54:18
location-based I think that's
the main
54:20
thing you know where someone is
you get
54:21
a good idea who they hang out
with and
54:23
and what they're doing just
based on
54:25
location but the apps any app
that has
54:30
the Facebook advertising SDK
software
54:35
development kit included is
tracking you
54:39
like no one else's business
Facebook is
54:42
you with your Android phone if
you open
54:44
up a any app that has the
Facebook SDK
54:48
but really there's a thousand
54:50
advertising SDKs
54:52
it sends data back to home base
with a
54:56
lot of information about you at
that
54:58
very moment the Triple C
Computer Club
55:00
in in Germany those guys have
been
55:03
around for decades ever they
the CCC
55:05
baby what's the genesis of that
group do
55:07
you know well the computer
clubs are a
55:10
huge popular thing in the 70s
and early
55:13
80's because as we got these
these new
55:15
machines the information we
were getting
55:20
was pretty scant and so far you
couldn't
55:22
get enough information and so
you joined
55:24
these clubs and the clubs were
there
55:26
which were fantastic
55:27
you join one of these clubs and
then
55:29
they bring guests and from
Microsoft
55:32
companies and they could get
grilled
55:34
were you a member of any of
these clubs
55:36
back in the day well you would
never I
55:38
was never technically a member
but you
55:41
could go to any of the meetings
mm-hmm
55:43
so yeah I went to a lot of
meetings who
55:45
went to homebrew I went to this
one in
55:48
Berkeley there was I think Palo
Alto
55:51
Computer Club if I'm not
mistaken or
55:53
that was homebrew I'm not and
they all
55:54
had their own BBS
55:57
generally yeah diluted but the
BBS was
56:01
interesting because they would
have
56:03
these same experts and you
could ask
56:06
questions on the BBS and get
your
56:08
questions answered by something
doesn't
56:09
work those were the days where
you had
56:11
to write or borrow or find
someone else
56:13
who could write drivers for
printers Oh
56:16
before the pre-windows days
there was no
56:18
simple way if I'm talking to a
printer
56:21
the term in Silicon Valley was
hey man
56:24
it's all about the drivers was
that like
56:26
the number one thing all about
the
56:27
drivers well I don't know about
that but
56:31
the drivers were quite
important yes so
56:34
you didn't have the right
driver you the
56:36
peripherals wouldn't work yeah
it's
56:38
still kind of that driver
issues so the
56:43
CCC's did an excellent
presentation
56:45
you'll find it in the show
notes I
56:47
clipped one little bit of it
just to
56:48
give you an idea but to set it
up they
56:51
only did this on Android they
only did
56:52
it with a select number of apps
but the
56:54
apps that were reporting a lot
of
56:56
information the ones I found
interesting
56:58
were the period tracker just
imagine if
57:01
you're tracking your period
what kind of
57:04
information that says about you
and what
57:07
that what information is being
sent but
57:09
also travel apps baby
progression apps
57:13
anything that's free pretty
much and
57:15
even although they they didn't
do enough
57:18
study on it even if you upgrade
from the
57:21
freemium to the premium model
the
57:24
advertising SDK just it sits
there just
57:27
sits in there and whenever you
open the
57:28
app it's sending data here's a
here's a
57:31
clip from this presentation
which I
57:32
thought was a real eye-opener
about the
57:34
true spying that's going on
57:36
so our first finding was that
over 61%
57:39
of the apps we tested
automatically
57:41
transferred data
57:43
before these any other like if
they if
57:46
you just open the out so it's
21 hours
57:48
34 so for example his kayak and
as
57:53
you'll see pretty much
immediately from
57:55
when the actors at flipped it
that first
57:57
request is straight to
facebook.com they
58:00
said the whole load of other
dates tools
58:02
many other companies decides
thank you I
58:06
can't let it go on for a while
but
58:07
ultimately you end up from
their home
58:09
screen which is kind of amusing
because
58:11
it's got this at the bottom of
it
58:14
without your permission
58:18
are you able to hear this yeah
yeah so
58:22
you know sending all this going
I
58:23
mention when I mention that
kayak is the
58:25
is the website that Obama if
you recall
58:30
used to promote endlessly oh
yeah well
58:34
waiting they have a little bit
more info
58:36
on kayak in this clip the top
example
58:43
here is kayak and kayak sends
your
58:46
entire search to Facebook every
time you
58:49
do a search in there which is
lovely
58:50
so and it's interesting what
they send
58:53
cuz it's not just it's not just
for the
58:56
content of your search there's
also some
58:58
other stuff like your user score
59:00
whatever that is it's got app
for skated
59:03
session IDs and all sorts of
other
59:04
things that they're sending to
Facebook
59:07
the other one that's on the
bottom here
59:09
is the King James Bible and
it's quite
59:11
typical of a lot of ways that
app
59:14
developers implement the SDK
and allows
59:16
them to track your usage
through the app
59:18
so this one they actually told
you watch
59:23
verse and passage of the Bible
you'd
59:25
read which is a what Facebook
needs to
59:28
know but nerd but think about
that
59:36
Facebook knows what chapter or
verse
59:39
you're on in your King James
Bible app
59:41
[Music]
59:43
but we don't do anything with
your data
59:45
so and then the last bit is the
actual
59:48
advertising data though
Facebook users
59:50
and this is a request to their
ad
59:54
network and there's something
slightly
59:56
interesting static it comes
from here is
59:59
that you know like the device
is on
1:00:00
charge the map the battery
percentage is
1:00:02
full there's free space and
this isn't
1:00:05
this isn't even the most
comprehensive
1:00:07
example I've seen no other data
on there
1:00:09
such as accelerometer positions
the
1:00:12
other slight interesting thing
again all
1:00:14
linked with the VF ID so yeah
it's
1:00:17
crucial to remember this
happens whether
1:00:19
you're a Facebook user or
you're not a
1:00:21
Facebook with you logged in or
you're
1:00:23
not logged in so it's making
profiles
1:00:25
are being made regardless of
whether
1:00:26
you're have a Facebook account
or you
1:00:28
don't have a Facebook account
well you
1:00:29
have to use this some of these
apps and
1:00:31
a profile is being built
1:00:33
people don't know this this is
really
1:00:37
really evil and there are
thousands you
1:00:40
the advertising you want Adam
oh sure
1:00:43
sure hasn't targeted to you yes
but
1:00:47
they're doing this before the
app even
1:00:48
is functional for you you're
just
1:00:52
opening the app and it's
sending all
1:00:53
this that's what chrome does to
you open
1:00:56
up Chrome it's talking to home
base for
1:00:58
an hour but worse and then all
kinds of
1:01:00
stuff who knows is disgusting
1:01:05
it is disgusting it should be
illegal I
1:01:08
think it is actually in some
funny way
1:01:10
oh really
1:01:12
well I mean dude cookies I
thought
1:01:15
there's a bunch of laws about
you can't
1:01:17
go on somebody else's machine
and start
1:01:19
using their storage
1:01:23
I know when you sign up for one
of the
1:01:25
browsers that probably did
probably has
1:01:26
it in the house when you sign
up terms
1:01:29
of service should be illegal
1:01:30
the worst is ancestry DNA we
now know in
1:01:36
there EULA
1:01:38
they actually it so if you get
your DNA
1:01:43
tested through ancestry DNA and
you sign
1:01:46
off like yeah okay this is good
I'm good
1:01:48
to go you can have my my DNA
data and
1:01:50
you can process it what you are
actually
1:01:52
agreeing to is the perpetual
royalty
1:01:55
free worldwide license to use
your DNA
1:01:58
for anything they want to
1:02:01
next to uncovering your ethnic
mix
1:02:03
discovering distant relatives
finding
1:02:05
new details about your unique
family
1:02:07
history with this simple DNA
test but
1:02:10
what's interesting is after I
think it's
1:02:13
three years then that DNA data
they have
1:02:16
is no longer yours it's theirs
in
1:02:19
perpetuity but you no longer
have you
1:02:22
can use it but you no longer
have any
1:02:23
claim to ownership of the
results of
1:02:26
that test it's right in their
user
1:02:29
licensing agreement one of your
another
1:02:34
thing to avoid it's hard to
avoid EULA's
1:02:40
well something's got to be done
about
1:02:41
that I keep seeing it little
cracks in
1:02:44
the in the ice it's eventually
gonna
1:02:46
happen I think this will be
this will be
1:02:47
an interesting year for
technology for
1:02:49
you know more like the deep
platforming
1:02:52
people figuring out what's
really going
1:02:55
on it takes a long time for
people to
1:02:57
understand and for it to bubble
to the
1:02:58
top and you need some kind of
event with
1:03:01
something that people can just
point to
1:03:03
a headline and understand
1:03:06
well you're talking about the
normals
1:03:09
yes your mom not your mom but
the normal
1:03:15
normal people exactly
1:03:17
it's true
1:03:20
well I got a well couple of
interesting
1:03:24
things happened oh here's the
one I
1:03:26
wanted you to play this is this
is the
1:03:28
spot the flub clip changing the
topic
1:03:31
okay right into it
1:03:33
I want you to see if you can
spot the
1:03:35
flub the government for border
security
1:03:37
check its do a twelve of the
government
1:03:41
shutdown as president Trump
prepares for
1:03:43
another White House meeting with
1:03:44
congressional leaders would you
say it's
1:03:46
bleh-bleh 12 its 12 was this
New Year's
1:03:57
Eve wait well was she hammered
already
1:03:59
say 12 2012 itself all right
1:04:08
and with that I'd like to thank
you for
1:04:12
your courage and say in the
morning to
1:04:13
you the man who put the C in
China's
1:04:15
John C Dvorak in the morning to
you mr.
1:04:20
Adam curry also in the morning
to all
1:04:21
the ships and see all the boots
on the
1:04:23
ground all the feet in the air
and all
1:04:24
the subs in the water all the
dams and
1:04:26
all the nights out there in the
morning
1:04:27
to the troll room
1:04:29
hello trolls welcome to your
episode
1:04:31
1100 thank you for all of you
who've
1:04:33
been here for the ride at no
agenda
1:04:35
stream calm where you can
always check
1:04:36
us out live on Thursdays and
Sundays
1:04:38
also I'd like to say in the
morning to
1:04:40
network dolly who brought us
the artwork
1:04:43
for episode 1099 the type of
that was
1:04:45
robot referencing beto will
Bhama and
1:04:50
we'd like to start work that's
always
1:04:53
easy to do a Happy New Year or
a New
1:04:54
Year's thing but this was a
calendar
1:04:57
spanning 2016 to 2020 for with
our
1:05:00
favorite screaming social
justice
1:05:02
warrior you know the one on her
knees
1:05:04
screaming to the heavens that
Trump was
1:05:06
elected a little arrow you are
here 2018
1:05:09
I've already seen this one
remixed
1:05:11
online people changing it to
2019 and
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it's the images kind of meanie
but like
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it isn't a meme it's a meanie
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was good
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yeah I thought so it was uh it
was a
1:05:26
tough show to do a album art
for but it
1:05:29
wasn't a tough show to
contribute for
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the next show which is show
1100 so we
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had the 1100 obviously eleven
hundred
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dollar donation which we didn't
actually
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promote but three people came
in with
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that we promoted the one
hundred and ten
1:05:43
dollar donation but and these
guys like
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they're all eleven hundred one
of them
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decides to jump they jump to
the line
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jump to come to the top of the
stack
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three threes kilo 5 alpha
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charlie f s8 call yo in Council
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Iowa with eleven hundred
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eleven cents
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hello John and Adam on show ten
eighty I
1:06:15
wrote to ask for jobs karma in
abeyance
1:06:17
since I thought I might get
fired and
1:06:20
you guys gave me some good tips
on how
1:06:23
to cover my ass we did well it
turns out
1:06:26
I victim remember but that's
one of the
1:06:29
things we were both good at me
mainly
1:06:34
ended up leaving that job I've
been
1:06:37
unemployed since October thirty
it's but
1:06:39
good news I got a job offer in
Portland
1:06:41
Oregon this is also the bad
news by the
1:06:43
way starting at the end of this
month
1:06:46
job karma works also decided to
get my
1:06:49
ham technician license on my
time off
1:06:51
and I'm studying for the
generally very
1:06:53
good I have no idea what my
peerage
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level is I know I'm probably
around Vai
1:06:59
count but I don't want to go
back over
1:07:01
the years and find all the
accounting
1:07:03
maybe one of these days before
I start
1:07:04
my new job if any other
producers have
1:07:06
an easy way to find out all the
1:07:08
donations other than coming
through the
1:07:09
show notes I'd certainly
appreciate it
1:07:12
I'd like to request a full al
sharpton
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jingle and karma shot for
everyone who
1:07:16
needs it congratulations on
eleven
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hundred shows you guys are the
best 73's
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so it can't the she'll help him
out
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how's what he gonna go through
the
1:07:27
numbers of this guy I don't
know I
1:07:29
thought he had no oh maybe I'm
wrong
1:07:32
yeah three years ago he had a
program
1:07:34
that was using there was
contact list
1:07:37
whatever it was that you told
was
1:07:38
terrible yeah it was well
that's what
1:07:41
did that job and now we don't
have it
1:07:44
anymore
1:07:44
no so somehow this turned into
my fault
1:07:50
we must they are all giddy
about a
1:07:54
shutdown the tortise in the
race then
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co-author of Kubrick's you too
lead
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singer Bono
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we suspect Johar tsarnaev rush
limbaugh
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you've got karma thank you very
much sir
1:08:13
Craig let's figure it out or I
can if
1:08:17
says Craig sends this I think
he uses
1:08:19
PayPal exclusively I can
probably go
1:08:23
into the PayPal books which
believe me
1:08:26
is not not fun too friendly and
the
1:08:29
worst part about PayPal is that
it's
1:08:31
classic example of a web app or
you know
1:08:34
web the cloud app you know you
click and
1:08:36
wait and just like an electron
app so
1:08:41
you click and you wait and you
wait I
1:08:46
might get some somewhere I mean
if he
1:08:48
gives me some examples where
you thinks
1:08:50
he thinks he's vice can I work
with that
1:08:52
all right onward to my presents
the
1:08:56
Grand Duke of the Pacific
Northwest
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since Wayne Mellon saw once
again Grand
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Duke so Grand Duke Dwayne
Tigard Oregon
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$1100 ITM and happy eleven
hundred for
1:09:12
the Grand Duke at the Pacific
Northwest
1:09:13
2018 was challenging for
donations
1:09:16
giving and receiving there's a
plentiful
1:09:17
so here's to a plentiful 2019 I
hope so
1:09:25
what happens if the economy
collapse now
1:09:27
what would our numbers would
look like
1:09:28
it would suck come not
necessarily mmm
1:09:32
not necessarily really karma -
yes
1:09:36
really
1:09:38
karma - offered producers in a
Renatus
1:09:42
wins the challenge I think that
would I
1:09:43
said I don't know if Adam can
do this
1:09:45
one a random Ocasio Cortez I so
for all
1:09:50
the freeloaders who have never
stepped
1:09:52
up I so
1:09:55
do I do we even have ISOs from
her did
1:10:00
we got some clips from her but
no I
1:10:02
suppose that I know of I think
Duane may
1:10:07
be referring to clips and ice
those are
1:10:11
very specific like to one or
two it's
1:10:12
reword pops right that we please
1:10:15
specifically cut out to use at
the end
1:10:17
of the show or elsewhere I
don't see
1:10:18
what I have here I would support
1:10:20
impeachment I think that you
know we
1:10:23
have the grounds to do it I
think what
1:10:25
really we need to focus on is
making
1:10:26
sure that we are advocating for
the
1:10:29
policies to win in November but
1:10:31
ultimately I think that what we
need to
1:10:33
kind of focus on Cortez nothing
short
1:10:46
enough exactly and finally Sir
Patrick
1:10:50
Coble who is no fees borough
Knight
1:10:56
$1,100
1:10:57
he's the one who helped
organize the
1:10:59
meet up in Sacramento and by
the way we
1:11:01
have a meet up tomorrow I
mentioned a
1:11:04
couple times of the show it's a
flash
1:11:06
meet up at the Gilman brewery in
1:11:09
Berkeley from 5:00 to 8:00 this
was
1:11:12
interesting this is something
that Mimi
1:11:13
put together
1:11:14
yeah well she's down here she
wants to
1:11:16
be you know she likes to do
these things
1:11:18
more than anybody else
1:11:19
flash meetup hmm why why does
she like
1:11:22
to do them so much I didn't get
out much
1:11:25
I have no idea she's like a
gadfly up
1:11:29
just likes meaning I think
she's because
1:11:32
she's very compatible with the
compat
1:11:37
OCONUS is competitive I don't
know
1:11:39
she's compatible with the new
agenda van
1:11:42
bass yeah well she's completely
1:11:44
compatible yeah not compatible
I think
1:11:48
is the word compatible edible
yeah I'm
1:11:51
thinking there's some Spanish
phrase but
1:11:53
that's okay simpatico simpatico
let's
1:11:55
see a flash beam it was a flash
meet up
1:11:58
tomorrow at the that is this
fabulous
1:12:01
Gilman brewery nice ward
winning brews
1:12:05
and you'll be there as well not
just me
1:12:07
me oh yeah
1:12:10
Mimi's just doing her own thing
getting
1:12:12
a roadie you'll be doing her
own podcast
1:12:14
now sure the baby will be there
oh the
1:12:17
adorable yeah he's gonna be
there he
1:12:21
says a word now oh what's the
word a new
1:12:29
year from the new Earl he's the
Earl
1:12:31
we're gonna have him up and he
wants
1:12:33
times are a-changing as soon as
the
1:12:35
intro to that it's got mine yes
I will
1:12:37
do that I would like to request
some
1:12:39
jobs car job speech and travel
karma and
1:12:42
anything from the RAF to polish
it out
1:12:46
thank you for both thank you
both for
1:12:48
what you've done for all of us
in 2018
1:12:50
was a great No Agenda year
1:12:51
are there any meetup updates
for DES
1:12:53
Moine to 20 to 19 or Austin
Austin's
1:12:58
coming stay tuned Texas Austin
meetup in
1:13:02
May perhaps now we're gonna do
it way
1:13:05
before then way before then
back office
1:13:08
had to donate another $25 to
hit Earl so
1:13:12
the total for the days ah 1125
so he
1:13:15
jumps the line nice excellent
1:13:20
good work all right he needs a
the Rev
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and he needs some jobs karma
right
1:13:29
our ESP ICT jobs jobs jobs and
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let's go karma I team in John
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everyone
1:14:04
realizes Adam is the true pod
father
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Dvorak gets his $400 Bitcoin is
that
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your target
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well I actually my real targets
50 cents
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but I'm not an idiot
1:14:19
okay and more people discover
no agenda
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is the best podcast in the
universe boom
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please
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baby Bing go boom
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Ohio 4 4444
1:14:40
ITM executives and happy new
year slaves
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please stay on the DRC story
something
1:14:45
is fishy they saw about the
Congo
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disappoint in my daughter and
why for
1:14:51
what wanting watches called
them a slave
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in the Apple or succes with
Apple
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watches and called them a slave
in the
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Apple Store which drew strange
looks you
1:15:03
gotta be careful with that
shout-out to
1:15:06
phone boy giggles dude named
Ben pew pew
1:15:11
and goat karma for everybody
you got to
1:15:14
be really careful I mean I also
no
1:15:16
longer wear my no agenda slave
t-shirt
1:15:18
it doesn't go over well anymore
when we
1:15:22
first made him it was kind of
cool but
1:15:23
not anymore dude named Ben yeah
we were
1:15:37
ahead of our times oh yeah sir
Jamie
1:15:40
John James Sir Jimmy James in
the parson
1:15:44
though it looks like 360 bucks
thanks
1:15:48
for all you do is 360 because
the show
1:15:49
turned my mental perception
towards
1:15:51
information all the way around
I have
1:15:56
always been a skeptic but
somehow they
1:15:58
still got me this yes is a
problem I
1:16:02
hope you to have a happy holiday
1:16:06
okay mmm some sums things up
1:16:09
sir Neville bærum 350 you're
gonna fit
1:16:13
these in Australia Ike let's
turn 50
1:16:18
properties it's probably got
$200 in
1:16:21
American but we give him credit
for 350
1:16:23
climate change is blamed for
brush fires
1:16:26
floods etc in Australia the
fact that
1:16:28
Australia has a few thousand
years been
1:16:31
dry hot and sometimes has
floods and
1:16:33
hurricanes does not seemed to
matter
1:16:35
one of the few scientists who
questioned
1:16:37
the science of the Great
Barrier Reef
1:16:39
described destruction by
climate change
1:16:42
was dismissed by his University
my very
1:16:46
leftie your liberal sister
listen to no
1:16:51
agenda once and felt it was two
old men
1:16:55
now wind you whine you engine
whinging
1:16:59
whinging well your sister's a
bigot she
1:17:02
is a bigot like a good lefty
she does
1:17:05
not let facts or a healthy
debate get in
1:17:08
the way of what a lefty
believes is the
1:17:11
truth the u.s. climate change
and
1:17:14
leftist agenda agendas have
infected
1:17:17
conservative politics in
Australia I am
1:17:20
NOT a fan of either side of
politics
1:17:22
please any boom Shakalaka and
some karma
1:17:26
for an old white guy yeah just
just on
1:17:30
that for a second he's talking
1:17:31
historically not about
Australia there
1:17:34
was an article in the LA Times
this
1:17:37
weekend about a couple days ago
about a
1:17:40
botanist in New York who went to
1:17:44
California in 1860 as a part of
the
1:17:47
newly formed California
Division of
1:17:49
Mines and geology and he wrote
about
1:17:51
this or he blogged it I guess
blogging
1:17:54
of the day and and here's just
to give
1:17:57
you an idea cuz you know we
think
1:17:58
California is bad and it's all
climate
1:18:00
change just like they're doing
in
1:18:01
Australia yeah he witnessed
torrential
1:18:04
rains that turned the central
valley
1:18:07
into a vast white capped lake
1:18:08
intolerable heat waves that
made the
1:18:10
fats of our meats run away and
1:18:12
spontaneous gravy violent
earthquakes
1:18:15
and fires he described as great
sheets
1:18:18
flame extending over acres yes
it is a
1:18:20
hell in California
1:18:24
I guess it was always that way
yeah I
1:18:27
know well just to bring it back
home
1:18:30
where I can look out the window
see the
1:18:31
mudflats I have a map one of our
1:18:33
producers sent me from 1880s or
1890s
1:18:37
showing the mud flats on the San
1:18:40
Francisco Bay where they were
then and
1:18:42
where the in a cent of newer
maps
1:18:43
showing where they are now
exactly the
1:18:45
same climate change is real
it's real
1:18:48
it's real
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[Music]
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you've got Karma boom Shakalaka
sir JD
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our buddy up there here buddy
down there
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Silicon Valley Baron $333 of 71
since he
1:19:07
wrote a lengthy note dear
mutton Jeff
1:19:10
congratulations don't show 1100
Happy
1:19:12
New Year sir wishes to you both
all the
1:19:14
Knights of Danes producers the
1:19:15
supporters of they by the way
if you're
1:19:17
listening
1:19:19
slash meet up tomorrow you got
to do it
1:19:23
differently you got to do like
you just
1:19:25
got a break in the middle of
your
1:19:27
sentence all of a sudden you
just go
1:19:28
like where is it flash news
meet up
1:19:31
tomorrow flash meet up I don't
have the
1:19:35
board
1:19:36
Berenice Silicon Valley here
with a
1:19:38
simple Pelosi jobs jobs jobs
goat karma
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requests and some birthday
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to the list to throw 1100
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1 to help sustain tbpi tu happy
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wishes happy birthday wishes
and he's
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got the list yet they're all on
the list
1:19:55
with them yeah have a great
2019 thank
1:19:58
you very much he wanted title
upgrade
1:20:03
but he's gonna push that off he
says ok
1:20:05
well when you're ready the
podium will
1:20:07
be yours jobs jobs jobs and jobs
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that's voter job sir d of
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rotting hold on sir adding
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rowdy close 3 3333 in holland
happy new
1:20:32
year to all no agenda listeners
and
1:20:34
producers and of course the
creators
1:20:35
John in that no we're not
creators stop
1:20:39
I don't want to create or think
it was
1:20:41
his idea of against the gag yes
it was a
1:20:44
it's been a good year people
are waking
1:20:46
up here and in the lowlands but
most of
1:20:49
them are not ready to put on it
1:20:51
Gil yeah JJ hey Alicia Hale has
shed is
1:20:56
a yellow vest fail yellow Yesha
vest hey
1:21:01
lashya alternative media like
the TPO
1:21:05
podcast is growing but real
debates are
1:21:08
still hard to find - afraid
what other
1:21:10
people might think - afraid
that people
1:21:13
might think give it a good work
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love the show swordy Wow thank
you very
1:21:17
much dunk you
1:21:19
Marcus Miller in montabaur
1:21:24
Deutschland 333 this is a
Marcus Muller
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finishing up my knighthood I
shall be
1:21:31
known as Sir Marcus of the
hinterland a
1:21:34
foamer karma would be nice
please
1:21:37
continue the great work and a
happy new
1:21:39
year you've got karma I word to
the
1:21:52
associate executive producers
for show
1:21:54
1100 Sir Keith $211 happy new
year and
1:21:58
many more to come
1:21:59
please send a little health
comm of my
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way thank you no I'm gonna send
a lot of
1:22:04
health karma your way not just
a little
1:22:06
a lot you've got karma he goes
no in
1:22:09
three more Pennsylvania
1:22:11
Robert McMurran 201 dollars and
90 cents
1:22:16
he writes resolving to be less
of a
1:22:19
douche in 2019 I've received
many
1:22:22
dollars worth of deconstruction
since my
1:22:24
smoking-hot wife hit me in the
mouth a
1:22:25
couple of years oh that's
interesting
1:22:29
so we have the reversal yes the
husband
1:22:32
seen the mouth in the mouth I'm
chipping
1:22:35
away at the arrears to prevent
her from
1:22:38
kicking me and mine thank you
happy new
1:22:43
year appreciate it and your
smoking-hot
1:22:45
wife and that that's the end of
our
1:22:48
group
1:22:51
summary I'm gonna mention this
but
1:22:53
Commander Cody okay Matt $199
says he
1:22:55
didn't want that because he
doesn't want
1:22:58
to be a producer as a grump oh
just
1:23:01
don't want it well I want to
thank our
1:23:03
executive producers our episode
Club
1:23:06
members today this has been
fantastic
1:23:08
show 1100 it's all of us have
done this
1:23:11
you know I know I sound like
Alexandria
1:23:14
Oh Castillo Cortez when I say
it it
1:23:16
really is true the show would
not be
1:23:18
possible without our producers
1:23:20
everywhere you produce in many
different
1:23:23
ways we love having the
executive
1:23:25
producers and associate
executive
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producers who like to thank
them up
1:23:27
front not dissimilar to
Hollywood
1:23:29
because you finance the show
but also
1:23:32
thank you to everyone who came
in $50
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will be thanking them and also
under
1:23:37
that I mean it's been eleven
hundred
1:23:39
episodes it's been 11 years
it's a big
1:23:41
11 11 and we're very proud and
happy I
1:23:43
just whistling through my faith
by my
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soliloquy
1:23:49
yeah I was it was I should get
the
1:23:52
harmonica out weird add more
color but
1:23:55
yes okay toots please remember
us for
1:23:58
our next show the second one of
2019
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which will be on Sunday more
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Chinese news go out there tell
everybody
1:24:09
about it by propagating our
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this we go out weird people in
the mouth
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[Applause]
1:24:25
[Music]
1:24:31
you
1:24:34
okay so I see that Jordan
Peterson and
1:24:40
Reuben are still on this he's
still
1:24:42
trying to make a new platform
kick it's
1:24:45
a big new platform and they're
gonna get
1:24:47
off both them I gonna be off
patreon on
1:24:49
the 15th and everyone's moaning
and
1:24:51
groaning about patreon and the
guy this
1:24:53
this jack dorsey clone is
running it
1:24:56
with the same beard
1:24:57
wait he's a jack door oh the
conte is
1:25:02
his name Conti yanti yeah he's
got the
1:25:05
same Taliban beard what is this
Taliban
1:25:08
beard look and Silicon Valley
of late I
1:25:11
don't know you live there you
should
1:25:15
know I don't know I'm gonna
have to ask
1:25:17
around this listen to what they
have to
1:25:20
say and because there's a this
one thing
1:25:23
I thought was interesting I got
two
1:25:25
clips here they are about hate
speech
1:25:27
and there's a EB Peterson
specifically
1:25:30
mentions the Southern Poverty
Law Center
1:25:32
and I think is it in agreement
the way
1:25:34
you can I just back up for one
second
1:25:36
because we don't do enough of
that and I
1:25:37
promised myself I'd do that
starting
1:25:39
this year is we're talking
about these
1:25:42
two guys who are leaving the
funding
1:25:45
platform patreon because
someone else
1:25:48
got kicked off somehow they
think that
1:25:50
these these platforms are
necessary to
1:25:53
take money where as you can get
you can
1:25:55
get money through checks people
can
1:25:57
actually said you know you can
wire
1:25:58
money to someone's bank account
did you
1:26:00
know that John is this crazy
crazy thing
1:26:02
we have unbelievable I know
there's all
1:26:05
kinds of ways you can do it
this pop
1:26:07
money there's just and you can
even make
1:26:08
your your banks and checks
automatically
1:26:13
numerous countless ways to get
money now
1:26:16
Zell is another one which I'm
still not
1:26:18
quite hooked up to but pop
money works
1:26:21
great bank transfers orcs piss
swift
1:26:24
transfers or they're pricey but
they do
1:26:26
work and then you just like you
said and
1:26:30
there's a bunch of different
systems out
1:26:32
there where you can sign up and
then
1:26:34
they will send checks yeah you
sign up
1:26:36
through your banks no banking
and then
1:26:39
you get put you get checks they
just
1:26:40
come in an envelope there's a
bunch of
1:26:42
checks so for whatever reason
they
1:26:44
believe that they need to start
a new
1:26:46
platform
1:26:48
I know this is the most
baffling I mean
1:26:51
to me it's just it's it's very
very odd
1:26:53
even PayPal is a platform on
top of a
1:26:57
platform you know PayPal
basically
1:26:59
covers for MasterCard yet NASA
and
1:27:03
MasterCard covers for the bank
so yes I
1:27:05
understand frictionless but
even the
1:27:07
subscription model I mean do
you really
1:27:09
to me it's a little denigrating
to the
1:27:15
audience
1:27:15
you're so stupid to figure out
how to
1:27:17
send money to the show we have
to make
1:27:19
it simple we got to charge your
card
1:27:21
automatically every single
month so we
1:27:23
take it I don't like it we do
that
1:27:28
yeah but mmm not this not the
same way
1:27:32
patreon does it's different
1:27:35
patreon does it per show you
put out
1:27:37
then all of a sudden the money
goes
1:27:39
patreon is extreme this thing I
do
1:27:42
another bitch you might sit
here bitch
1:27:43
about patron why not patreon is
very
1:27:46
rigid about the way we do a lot
of
1:27:47
promotions of all kinds of
things like
1:27:49
the eleven hundred $110 and
eleven
1:27:53
hundred dollars and things like
that and
1:27:54
a lot of its you know you set
up a
1:27:56
special button or a link to to
PayPal
1:27:59
and it's attached to for that
amount and
1:28:01
it changes all the time we're
always
1:28:03
changing we got Valentine's Day
and all
1:28:05
these you can't do all that
with patron
1:28:06
you have to have your I'm a
patron and I
1:28:09
pledged $5 a month forever oh
and you
1:28:12
have 2,500 patrons and you know
this
1:28:15
sort of thing and I cross so
blamed I I
1:28:19
think Peterson in particular
who was
1:28:21
making I think a hundred
thousand
1:28:23
dollars a month or something
like that
1:28:24
on patreon wow this was quite I
don't
1:28:27
think this quest that high it
was high
1:28:28
it was pretty high but whatever
it was
1:28:30
he could be making twice as
much if he
1:28:33
was just doing his own
solicitations but
1:28:35
when I hear these guys talk and
I've
1:28:36
listened to them and I
subscribed to
1:28:38
their podcast oh well I'll
listen to and
1:28:40
or was probably more I'd listen
more to
1:28:42
it than watch you know the
Peterson is
1:28:46
also calling in everywhere
talking about
1:28:48
how unfair it is that he's you
know that
1:28:51
you're kicked off the internet
and I
1:28:52
just don't agree this is a very
smart
1:28:54
guy who has not looked any
further than
1:28:56
you know the apps on his phone
you can
1:28:59
get around all of this all of it
1:29:04
yeah maybe someday a hundred
years from
1:29:08
now you won't be able to or
even fifty
1:29:10
who knows but you can get
around all of
1:29:13
it this is not real road blocks
unless
1:29:16
you've unless you've put your
painted
1:29:18
yourself into a corner exactly
my
1:29:20
patreon corner some other
corner where
1:29:21
this is you're relying on
somebody else
1:29:24
a third party yeah anything we
do that
1:29:28
with do a some extent with
PayPal but
1:29:29
I've never had any troubles
PayPal
1:29:31
actually like work in their
system
1:29:33
there's this belief the belief
is so
1:29:37
they're all on YouTube that's I
think I
1:29:38
think for Peterson and Rubin
those their
1:29:40
main means of distribution
right what I
1:29:43
don't see them doing is saying
hey why
1:29:45
don't I you know shadow this on
bit
1:29:49
shoot or some other place you
know bit
1:29:51
shooters is is essentially
mastodons for
1:29:54
video you know no one can
really shut it
1:29:56
off your videos will stay up
though
1:29:59
they'll be available this is
somewhere
1:30:01
somehow but they feel that they
need
1:30:04
YouTube now I understand if
you've quit
1:30:06
your your job and you're making
money
1:30:09
through YouTube and you do not
want to
1:30:11
rock that boat but don't you
see it
1:30:13
coming down Broadway I mean how
long
1:30:15
before they're deep platformed
off of
1:30:17
YouTube it can't be long even
if even if
1:30:20
for the reason that Google is
sitting
1:30:22
there going yeah I'm not making
any
1:30:23
money from these guys screw
them take
1:30:24
them off there's a million
different
1:30:26
reason I just I just don't
understand it
1:30:28
anyway um I digress I don't
understand
1:30:31
it these are smart guys which
clip do we
1:30:33
play first the one thing I just
want to
1:30:36
throw in a couple of comments
to it it's
1:30:39
always baffled me the peer group
1:30:41
pressure that we even got to
use patreon
1:30:45
we had a number of people write
all you
1:30:48
should use patreon what your
guys are
1:30:49
doing is you can use patrons
easier well
1:30:52
maybe it's easier for this guy
cuz he's
1:30:53
a member or something he can
just go
1:30:55
bounce around it I'll give him
five
1:30:57
fight mix and then patron
stanza for
1:31:02
I don't know it's just that the
whole
1:31:04
thing was we were against the
idea of a
1:31:06
third party like patrons getting
1:31:08
involved you know you can there
banks
1:31:10
will help you too by the way
most banks
1:31:13
we're not unless you're in the
pot
1:31:14
business yeah the pipe is the
banks
1:31:17
don't like that by the way but
they're
1:31:19
the government if the
government goes
1:31:21
after you know these guys are
bitching
1:31:22
and moaning because they're
being the
1:31:23
platform by douchebags it's not
the
1:31:26
government if the government
says hey
1:31:29
we're cutting this guy off I
call PayPal
1:31:32
I mean they did this with
WikiLeaks call
1:31:34
PayPal hey look you guys really
we're
1:31:36
gonna much make your life
miserable kill
1:31:39
WikiLeaks oh okay you want to
go to the
1:31:42
banks and say no don't take
anything you
1:31:44
didn't cut them off as best
they can but
1:31:46
WikiLeaks is still going
they've gotten
1:31:48
around most of it
1:31:50
and the point is is I don't see
why you
1:31:53
would trust I mean if the
government
1:31:55
goes after in other words what
I'm
1:31:56
saying is that if the
government went
1:31:57
after these two guys Reuben and
Peterson
1:32:00
yeah then they had I think they
have
1:32:02
something to complain about
1:32:03
yeah but they're not but it's
not the
1:32:05
government no it's just random
1:32:07
douchebags running these little
Silicon
1:32:10
Valley operations trying to
make money
1:32:12
off of you and if you dive into
1:32:14
MasterCard they are all in on
diversity
1:32:18
and me up they've this Soros
that Soros
1:32:22
gave migrant caravans maybe not
this
1:32:27
most recent one but it wouldn't
surprise
1:32:29
me the credit card at debit
cards
1:32:31
mastercards with money on it
yeah that
1:32:34
was the most recent one that
would I
1:32:36
don't know which one you're
talking
1:32:37
about the one that came up from
up
1:32:39
through Nicaragua did the same
aunt
1:32:43
cards yeah they do this a lot
of this
1:32:45
stuff so they have all these
social
1:32:47
agendas they have entire
divisions they
1:32:49
feel that it's appropriate for
their
1:32:51
company that to support certain
1:32:54
initiatives and also to not
support
1:32:56
others so well there is a rumor
going
1:32:59
around that MasterCard put the
kibosh on
1:33:01
someone yes on this your ekkada
your sod
1:33:05
of a cod guy whoever is not
inside of a
1:33:07
car yes yes it if you read
through the
1:33:11
transcript of the trust and
safety team
1:33:14
call to whoever guy was asking
about it
1:33:18
so yeah no MasterCard said yeah
you
1:33:21
really got to get rid of this
guy I'm
1:33:22
paraphrasing i I find this hard
to
1:33:25
believe
1:33:25
yeah it's in the kitty that
might be
1:33:27
bogus well we we don't have the
audio
1:33:29
because the guy said he
promised not to
1:33:31
use the audio but he used the
transcript
1:33:33
so I don't know I don't know if
it's
1:33:35
truthful I think it is why not
it makes
1:33:38
nothing but sense to me I said
I don't
1:33:42
want to these two guys really
which one
1:33:46
first SPLC first how to rate
credibly
1:33:49
diverse range of opinions if
such
1:33:52
regulation needs for the last
well it's
1:33:54
really for the last year but
intensely
1:33:56
in the last month is what
actually is
1:34:00
the problem itself because
until we
1:34:02
really
1:34:03
figure out what the problem is
well I
1:34:05
think I think the problem is
how to
1:34:08
regulate an incredibly diverse
range of
1:34:10
opinions if such regulation
needs to be
1:34:13
instantiated we could take a
limit case
1:34:16
for example the desire of
companies like
1:34:19
Facebook not to have their
platforms
1:34:21
used for recruitment for Isis
it's hard
1:34:23
to make a case that that's not a
1:34:26
reasonable restriction right
but then
1:34:28
but then the next issue is I
think you
1:34:31
could make an exception there
because
1:34:33
maybe you've considered that a
wartime
1:34:35
exception or something like
that but
1:34:38
then the fundamental problem to
me seems
1:34:40
to be and I'll return again to
that
1:34:42
change the terms website that a
whole
1:34:45
variety of companies and
organizations
1:34:48
spearheaded in not least by the
Southern
1:34:51
Poverty Law Center that shameful
1:34:53
organization yeah the worst
that has
1:34:57
decided that they're going to
compel
1:35:01
encourage what the fame perhaps
1:35:05
companies that don't band
together to
1:35:08
regulate what they see is hate
speech
1:35:11
now all right professor genius
is he
1:35:14
just figuring this out I like
Peters
1:35:18
number come on the psychology
degree
1:35:20
didn't come with any business
degree I
1:35:22
guess no I mean they're using
Skype by
1:35:25
the way we use Skype to oh but
are we
1:35:29
are we totally prepared for a
deep
1:35:32
platforming from Skype yeah I
think so
1:35:33
we got other things we can use
we'd be
1:35:35
sad because Skype really is a
great
1:35:38
product for how we use it I
don't we're
1:35:41
not really just Skype is really
closest
1:35:43
thing to a common carry that
you can be
1:35:45
cuz there's no Skype right has
all kinds
1:35:49
of rules their whole new to
terms of
1:35:50
services you can't you use hate
speech
1:35:53
while talking to someone else
on skype
1:35:55
it's in their terms of service
1:35:56
I haven't seen that yes it's
enough
1:35:59
reads it to me
1:36:00
alright hold on I will go to
Bing it dot
1:36:03
IO Bing it dot IO does that
imply that
1:36:06
they're listening to all these
1:36:07
conversations that they have
one of
1:36:09
those little uh you know NSA
word
1:36:12
recognizing codes running and
going
1:36:15
wouldn't surprise wouldn't
surprise me
1:36:21
hmm I don't know if I'll be
able to find
1:36:24
that just quickly but I I really
1:36:26
remembered a part too cuz this
good this
1:36:28
one here you just talked about
is a
1:36:30
certain naivete I want to
discuss
1:36:32
naivete after it plays this one
one of
1:36:34
the things that I can't fathom
in some
1:36:37
sense is the lack of
imagination on the
1:36:39
part of the people who are
engaging in
1:36:42
censorship of what they regard
as hate
1:36:44
speech like there's an old
military
1:36:46
adage which is that if you
invent a
1:36:48
weapon it will be used by your
enemy
1:36:50
within 15 years okay so what
what makes
1:36:53
the people who on the on the
left
1:36:56
because they're the ones who
are doing
1:36:57
this what as you can clearly
see are in
1:37:00
the change the terms website
what makes
1:37:04
them so sure that exactly the
same
1:37:06
tactics won't be used against
them like
1:37:09
at the drop of a hat once once
the
1:37:11
tactics have been validated and
put in
1:37:13
place
1:37:15
hello hello where do you think
they got
1:37:17
these tactics from they got
them from
1:37:19
the right wingers of these
family
1:37:21
organizations that would
pressure the TV
1:37:23
stations not to play this not
to play
1:37:26
that off that's right have a
boycott
1:37:27
they go after the advertisers
just like
1:37:30
these guys there's nothing I
want and I
1:37:32
will say it was the Christian
Right
1:37:33
probably yeah the Christian
Right
1:37:35
Christian Right they behaved
angelic
1:37:39
evangelists and the rest of the
this
1:37:42
crowd mostly a couple of
organization
1:37:44
pressure organizations I got it
I got
1:37:45
into a beef with one of them
because I
1:37:47
was promoting the dot xxx
domain hmm
1:37:51
which went through and I got a
1:37:52
back-and-forth and I got
mentioned as a
1:37:55
douche bag for promoting this
and I was
1:37:58
I went back and forth with him
so I
1:38:00
can't remember the name of this
group it
1:38:01
was one of these same pressure
group so
1:38:02
I said look this is trite the
idea is to
1:38:05
take the ball to point and push
it over
1:38:06
into a corner would that been
required
1:38:09
xxx and they didn't see it that
way they
1:38:11
said that that xx I was just
encouraging
1:38:14
more porn and I was a horrible
person
1:38:16
for suggesting this and anyway
you're
1:38:19
getting did these groups have
been
1:38:20
around mostly on the right
1:38:22
they've been always I see most
all of
1:38:25
them were been on the right and
and 15
1:38:27
years later just like Peterson
said the
1:38:29
left is now using the same
tactics but
1:38:32
he thinks it's like the
beginning of
1:38:34
something it's not yeah this is
a great
1:38:36
American tradition thinking
this is a
1:38:38
great American tradition we D
platform
1:38:41
we pressure we pressure you
with public
1:38:44
shaming we pressure you your
advertisers
1:38:47
this has been going on for a
long time
1:38:49
from this by we took the malla
we took
1:38:52
from the Skype code of conduct
you may
1:38:55
not publicly display or use the
services
1:38:57
to share inappropriate content
or
1:38:59
material involving for example
nudity
1:39:01
bestiality pornography offensive
1:39:03
language graphic violence or
criminal
1:39:05
activity we may stop providing
services
1:39:09
to you or may close your
account we may
1:39:11
also block delivery of a
communication
1:39:13
like email file sharing or
instant
1:39:14
message to or from the services
an
1:39:16
effort to enforce these terms
blah blah
1:39:17
blah it was very clear and was
a big
1:39:19
deal everyone was talking about
it yeah
1:39:22
well I'm not worried that's the
least of
1:39:25
my problems just worrying about
Skype
1:39:27
but my point is
1:39:28
we're prepared for that you
know with
1:39:31
this but no one's gonna pull by
anything
1:39:33
could happen but pulling the
plug on our
1:39:36
distribution unlikely because
we don't
1:39:38
rely on it I don't give a crap
about
1:39:40
Twitter you care more about
than I do
1:39:42
Mastodon are no agenda social
calm I get
1:39:45
oh I got a lot more out of that
it's
1:39:47
really grown to not just just
are now
1:39:50
you know there all the time you
do not
1:39:51
lie lie everyone's always
tagging you
1:39:56
you never respond yeah I've
made for a
1:40:00
couple of weeks you just lied
and people
1:40:04
you know as I said I think 2019
people
1:40:06
are gonna start getting pissed
off about
1:40:08
this stuff I love what's
happening now
1:40:10
with the where was this taking
place so
1:40:13
in in Arizona
1:40:15
we're way Moe has rolled out
their
1:40:19
driverless cars oh yeah Peters
predicted
1:40:23
yes people are throwing rocks
at them
1:40:25
slashing the tires trying to
drive them
1:40:28
off the road with their own
vehicles
1:40:30
yeah I love this yeah I this
was I wrote
1:40:36
this calm years ago saying that
1:40:38
vandalism because yes yeah the
idea is
1:40:42
great I think the technology
almost
1:40:44
works doesn't quite it's just
still
1:40:46
missing a few pieces but I
think the
1:40:49
publishers like is they're not
gonna put
1:40:50
up with it not initially it's
gonna take
1:40:52
years before they get used to
see
1:40:54
wanting these things you know
they're
1:40:55
convenient they are but yeah
they're
1:40:57
running them off the road man in
1:40:58
Oklahoma there's a new trend
called
1:41:01
icing icing stands for internal
1:41:04
combustion engine Inc where
pickup
1:41:07
drivers park their trucks in
front of
1:41:10
the electric vehicle charging
stations
1:41:15
and don't move
1:41:18
yeah this backlash on all of
this stuff
1:41:21
yeah all of it
1:41:24
the boy man didn't add in stock
market
1:41:27
today Apple got hammered for
something
1:41:29
it's like everything's crashing
again
1:41:32
and yeah we'll see we'll see
how well
1:41:34
the technology does it's kind
of it's
1:41:36
like a small flaw I think in
professor
1:41:39
Ted's reasoning
1:41:41
it seems that certainly the
American
1:41:44
population a percentage of its
small is
1:41:46
revolting against the
technology tyranny
1:41:50
just against the tyranny yeah
what do
1:41:54
you mean
1:41:55
the tyranny that all you've got
to do
1:41:57
this you got to do that you
have to have
1:41:59
and you can't get any gas
mileage you
1:42:00
can't drive a car the v8 you
have to
1:42:02
have a small electric car yeah
you know
1:42:05
the deathtrap you have to drive
that you
1:42:07
have to but you get free
charging but
1:42:09
you don't get free charging
when it
1:42:10
first came out with charging
everywhere
1:42:12
I used to be able to go to
Costco point
1:42:13
my electric car I don't have
one part my
1:42:15
electric card Costco and
there's a
1:42:17
charging station I could plug
it in for
1:42:19
free now it's all paid charging
you get
1:42:22
a nice parking spot but you had
to pay
1:42:24
to get your car charged yeah so
what
1:42:26
happened to the free charging
ah this
1:42:28
number and there's no free lunch
1:42:32
I've got all this Tesla still
some free
1:42:34
charging but then I think
there's some
1:42:35
people made it adapter so the
text the
1:42:37
charger would fit into anything
yeah
1:42:39
these things don't work these
deceives
1:42:42
so for all this technology
that's why we
1:42:45
have China all over the DRC
that Congo
1:42:50
that's why we've got lots of
crap going
1:42:53
on there people jockeying
position
1:42:55
because they need the minerals
and who
1:42:57
else pops up in this and then
you know
1:42:59
it's real Blackwater founder
Eric Prince
1:43:03
yeah has launched a fund for
electric
1:43:07
car metals
1:43:08
I think it's metals for
batteries more
1:43:11
than just electric vehicles
this guy's
1:43:13
smart plays one of the smartest
guys out
1:43:16
there
1:43:18
I don't know if you run a fund
though
1:43:19
that's a lot different to
business yeah
1:43:24
I see how his fund does to the
front man
1:43:27
what's gonna have to go was
team up with
1:43:30
one of the VCS but they're all
be
1:43:31
embarrassed though oh that guy
we can't
1:43:34
we can't hook up with him we
had to do
1:43:36
our green thing yeah
1:43:38
he's the wrong he's the wrong
figurehead
1:43:40
isn't it yeah he's not Al Gore
he's not
1:43:43
Colin Powell I guess I'm kind of
1:43:49
saying of discussing kleiner
perkins I
1:43:52
did learn some things over the
New
1:43:55
Year's break from the
Millennials the
1:43:58
word woke is out
1:44:01
can't use the word woke anymore
1:44:05
you should just be woke and if
you say
1:44:07
if you say I'm woke you're
actually
1:44:09
incredibly unwell you understand
1:44:12
you
1:44:15
no it's probably stems from
than jill
1:44:19
abramson oh you're going too
fast you're
1:44:23
going too fast
1:44:24
because I have a clip from NPR
to
1:44:26
explain to you that woke is
over and by
1:44:29
the way good the concept of
woke not so
1:44:33
new you've heard the word a lot
by this
1:44:35
point woke woke yeah woke your
annoying
1:44:39
friend probably uses it
1:44:40
you are so woke politicians and
1:44:43
celebrities use it sleeping
woke means
1:44:45
that you recognize everybody
uses it are
1:44:49
you even woke I want us to stop
first
1:44:52
what exactly does woke mean
it's defined
1:44:55
as aware of and actively
attentive to
1:44:59
important facts and issues
especially
1:45:02
issues of racial and social
justice
1:45:04
that's Emily Brewster she's an
associate
1:45:06
editor at merriam-webster the
dictionary
1:45:09
the black lives matter movement
is
1:45:10
largely responsible for the
rise of woke
1:45:12
this century the word is tied
to this
1:45:15
idea of valuing and respecting
blackness
1:45:17
activists used it to urge
people to take
1:45:20
issues like the deaths of black
people
1:45:22
at the hands of police
seriously Nicole
1:45:25
holiday is a linguist at Pomona
College
1:45:28
she says before that the word
woke
1:45:29
appeared in an essay decades
ago if
1:45:32
you're woke you dig it by
William Melvin
1:45:34
Kelly and that was in 1962
1:45:37
Kelly argued that once black
words used
1:45:39
to define certain aspects of
blackness
1:45:42
like cats or dig it once I got
the white
1:45:45
people they were kind of over
Nicole
1:45:48
holiday thinks that has
happened to woke
1:45:50
this decade
1:45:51
it went from black almost
fringe to
1:45:54
white and mainstream so there's
a couple
1:45:56
of things in here that I that I
found
1:45:58
interesting one the fact that
the exact
1:46:01
way this is used woke comes
from if
1:46:04
you're woke you dig it New York
Times
1:46:07
article which explains why
Maxine Waters
1:46:09
really propagated it cuz she
was in I
1:46:12
think she was in Congress in
1962 but
1:46:17
the idea that it really means
the same
1:46:19
thing as dig it man groovy hip
you hip
1:46:21
to me what they all is the same
thing
1:46:24
but yes and the finger-snapping
goes
1:46:26
with it yes
1:46:27
which is the cycle is just a
fractal
1:46:29
we're just going around in
circles once
1:46:31
again no beatnik bar but the
but the
1:46:33
moment the club was smoking
reefer
1:46:36
listening to poets myth the
minute white
1:46:40
people because here's the
racist part of
1:46:42
it uh the minute white people
start
1:46:44
using the term oh yeah then
it's over
1:46:46
then it's not then it's no good
anymore
1:46:48
there's dumb
1:46:51
look
1:46:53
Shapiro wrote a cop he's like
Shapiro is
1:46:56
a pretty good writer I don't
like him as
1:46:59
a as a host but he's a pretty
good
1:47:00
writer and he claimed the term
woke
1:47:03
scolding for 2019
1:47:07
never heard of it what he's
made it's
1:47:09
probably over but that Jill
Abrams uses
1:47:12
the term Alhurra
1:47:14
allow me to remind everyone who
Jill
1:47:16
Abrams is Irie I read the New
York Times
1:47:20
like all day long
1:47:23
mainly on my iPad app the
original
1:47:27
Berkeley Hummer Jill Abramson
heard of
1:47:29
the New York Times editor
executive ever
1:47:32
the New York Times slammed the
time and
1:47:37
of course see we don't have a
clip of
1:47:39
her slamming The Times because
she wrote
1:47:40
an article but this play this
overall
1:47:43
takes not an article it's not
the times
1:47:45
and her use of the word woke as
a term
1:47:50
of ridicule she it's in her
book yeah
1:47:54
it's not an article it's in her
book
1:47:56
yeah I'm sorry said it's in her
new book
1:47:57
just a new book and she slams
the times
1:47:59
the former executive editor of
the New
1:48:01
York Times Jill Abramson
criticizing
1:48:04
that newspaper in her upcoming
book
1:48:06
calling The Times news coverage
1:48:08
unmistakeably anti-trump let's
bring in
1:48:11
howard kurtz
1:48:12
fox news media analyst and host
of media
1:48:15
buzz she's not gonna be making
a lot of
1:48:17
friends among her former
colleagues at
1:48:19
the New York Times with a lot
of what
1:48:21
she has to say in this book
Howie
1:48:22
absolutely not Jon but this is
an
1:48:24
extraordinary rebuke by Jill
Abramson
1:48:27
the former executive editor as
you say
1:48:29
if she not only calls the news
coverage
1:48:32
unmistakably anti-trump she
says the
1:48:34
younger staff they're the woke
staff
1:48:36
members that she puts it are so
1:48:38
concerned about what they see
is the
1:48:39
dangers of trumps presidency
that they
1:48:41
want to throw out the old
journalistic
1:48:43
standards she also says that
given the
1:48:45
papers mostly liberal audience
there's a
1:48:48
financial reward for The Times
and
1:48:50
running so many stories about
Trump
1:48:51
almost all the negative of that
is
1:48:52
soaring traffic yes soaring
traffic
1:48:57
exactly yeah
1:49:00
I'm not so sure that what good
it does
1:49:02
the country so I just say
something I
1:49:04
since this is a book that has
not yet
1:49:06
been published I question
what's really
1:49:08
in there
1:49:10
this is your typical promotion
who's
1:49:12
publishing the book do we know
and I
1:49:14
don't know one of the big boys
I'm not
1:49:17
so sure that she slams the New
York
1:49:20
Times the way this Fox News
report said
1:49:23
I find out when the book comes
out yeah
1:49:25
it's great promotion I wouldn't
have
1:49:27
known she had a book otherwise
it would
1:49:28
have just thought it was from
an article
1:49:30
and the fact that she's not out
there
1:49:33
doing it herself with would
love to hurt
1:49:39
her read the book oh the
audiobook the
1:49:42
audiobook yes it's 18 hours
long it's a
1:49:50
very good book well in the
newspaper
1:49:56
industry word is out we we know
what's
1:49:59
happened now it was North Korea
who
1:50:02
hacked the LA Times and other
Tribune
1:50:04
publishing related papers sure
North
1:50:07
Korea yes North Korea it was
yeah the
1:50:11
great hackers of the world none
of them
1:50:12
are computer literate they
don't have
1:50:14
it's not part of their culture
but yet
1:50:17
they're the best
1:50:18
it's the Rioch ransomware this
is
1:50:22
actually pretty fun to read a
little bit
1:50:24
deeper into it and it's not
really
1:50:26
discussed much I found a couple
of
1:50:28
experts who figured out what's
going on
1:50:30
so they got hit by ransomware
and the
1:50:33
and apparently some of these
papers are
1:50:37
the publishing company itself
or whoever
1:50:39
was paid out close to 640
thousand
1:50:43
dollars and if you see the
emails cuz
1:50:45
they send you an email it's very
1:50:47
professional this is not your I
saw you
1:50:49
jerking off on your webcam send
me a
1:50:51
Bitcoin or I'll send it to all
your your
1:50:54
your to your entire address
book this is
1:50:58
very clear they actually send
along a
1:51:00
key to decrypt one or two files
so to
1:51:05
prove that they have the key
they say
1:51:07
don't try any of these things
it'll
1:51:08
immediately destroy your data
so this
1:51:11
was not just some
1:51:13
or some glitch no this was a
ransomware
1:51:16
attack which they're blaming
North Korea
1:51:19
for whereas the only person you
can
1:51:21
really blame is your own
network of the
1:51:24
entity know your network guy
well I hate
1:51:28
to blame the dude named Ben but
yeah
1:51:30
well there's a lot of
incompetent dudes
1:51:33
named badass as every dude
named Ben
1:51:36
knows yes yes
1:51:41
and I think that they do what
while on
1:51:45
that topic tell us how you back
up
1:51:49
currently what your current
methodology
1:51:51
is so people can know what max
safety is
1:51:55
except for the one exception of
not
1:51:56
having something off-site first
of all
1:51:59
all no agenda files are on a
separate
1:52:01
Drive I have a and that's
duplicated so
1:52:04
I have two drives all files
everything
1:52:06
the whole kit and kaboodle tens
of
1:52:09
thousands of files is on that
every
1:52:12
after every show everything is
backed up
1:52:14
on this machine and I make a
clone of
1:52:17
the drive because I know that
everything
1:52:20
was working and was fine and
should
1:52:22
something happen I can just pop
in the
1:52:23
new drive and be up and running
and I
1:52:25
also do an a backup to the cloud
1:52:29
magical cloud and Acronis
itself has
1:52:32
some kind of ransomware
protection they
1:52:34
claims yeah I'm not counting on
it but
1:52:40
they do have some form of
protection
1:52:42
I personally back everything up
to a
1:52:45
cassette tape using the Kansas
City
1:52:47
standard you know the Netflix
has this
1:52:52
they tried to do this
interactive movie
1:52:54
it wasn't called banned or - I
think
1:52:57
it's a black mirror it's a
black mirror
1:52:59
production yeah and have you
not heard
1:53:02
about this is interesting I
think I've
1:53:04
heard about it and didn't
really pay
1:53:05
much attention it says I'm not
into
1:53:08
injury Oh movies now neither
neither am
1:53:11
i and in fact when it started
off
1:53:13
Michael this is like CDI if
remember
1:53:16
combo is worse interactive
where you can
1:53:19
choose the storyline and
Letterman David
1:53:23
Letterman used this joke he
said once I
1:53:25
says hey I go to see a movie
not right
1:53:28
one right now I thought I would
hate
1:53:31
this and I did kind of hate it
the
1:53:34
difference was and I think that
maybe he
1:53:36
mentions the last show that
because the
1:53:39
story itself is about a guy
building a
1:53:43
video game an adventure video
game in
1:53:46
the 80s that it you know it
kind of
1:53:48
makes sense and it's very meta
in that
1:53:50
regard but here's what's
interesting
1:53:51
that I heard yesterday at a
certain see
1:53:53
you can end up at a difference
it can
1:53:55
end for you differently than
somebody
1:53:57
else's probably eight different
endings
1:53:59
but then in that ending the guy
pops a
1:54:02
cassette cuz I played it twice
the guy
1:54:04
pops a cassette tape into his
Walkman
1:54:06
and it's the it the good old
you know
1:54:10
the sound of what would my
Commodore 64
1:54:14
or the nutmeg vic-20 or my zx80
you
1:54:18
would record your program onto a
1:54:19
cassette tape yeah and I sat
there
1:54:22
thinking
1:54:24
if I was ten years younger I'd
get up
1:54:26
off the couch I'd go record
that and
1:54:28
find an anywhere later and you
know what
1:54:30
I was right
1:54:31
apparently it's it's Atari code
and then
1:54:36
when you decrypt it you know if
you get
1:54:38
an emulator it pops up a
rendering of a
1:54:41
QR code he's had to use the QR
code to
1:54:45
go to some website and you get
no prize
1:54:46
but there's a lot of it it was
1:54:49
interesting
1:54:52
yeah if your yeah you'd have to
be about
1:54:55
you said 10 years ago yeah 10
years
1:54:57
younger maybe I would have no
no I don't
1:54:59
think so I think maybe I was 40
years
1:55:04
younger I was oh how old am I
1:55:08
oh yeah if you're sure you're
saying at
1:55:11
the age of you're 40 55 or are
50 to 54
1:55:15
gay you're 54 so you're telling
me at
1:55:18
the age of at the ripe age of 44
1:55:22
you're gonna download the code
and then
1:55:25
find an old Atari and go
through the egg
1:55:27
and you hooking it up and then
running
1:55:30
this this noise through it and
getting a
1:55:32
piece of a QR code and then
banging it
1:55:36
with your phone and seeing
where it goes
1:55:37
no no no no you're not doing
this at 44
1:55:41
all right I'm glad you know me
so well I
1:55:44
did not buying it okay it's
okay you
1:55:47
have too many things to do with
your
1:55:49
time oh yeah I mean that's oh
yeah I got
1:55:52
lots of stuff to do with Mike
well you
1:55:54
got more to do than that I mean
what do
1:55:56
you know you the solution is to
let some
1:55:59
kid do it and then you can
report it
1:56:00
like you did on this duck like
now so
1:56:02
you might as well have not done
it yes
1:56:06
somebody's gonna do it let him
do it
1:56:10
okay here's a little report
from CNN and
1:56:14
of course I have it listed here
in some
1:56:18
way that it's impossible for
you to ever
1:56:19
figure out but let's say it's
geh they
1:56:24
don't fly on broomsticks they
tend not
1:56:28
to be bewitched
1:56:30
[Music]
1:56:32
Donald Trump you know I call it
a witch
1:56:35
hunt
1:56:35
and it is a witch hunting
modern-day
1:56:37
witches are hard to categorize
are you a
1:56:40
good witch or a bad witch are
you a
1:56:43
witch living yes and which kind
of which
1:56:48
are you yeah I'm initiated into
Wicca
1:56:51
which is the religious side of
things
1:56:53
which is tend to side with
liberals and
1:56:56
you know what this is genie
most always
1:57:05
doesn't he does
1:57:06
you like her packages I think
they're
1:57:08
pretty stupid but you like them
though
1:57:10
there I like her packages
because she's
1:57:12
got a sense of humor yeah she
they are
1:57:15
stupid they give her stupid
packages
1:57:18
that CN n go on and on about
Trump's use
1:57:20
of the word which and then
throw it to
1:57:22
her to have her do a package or
a
1:57:24
ridiculously stupid package I
like that
1:57:30
which is I like witches are
liberal
1:57:32
that's great yeah liberals and
you know
1:57:35
what they wish president Trump
would
1:57:37
stop saying about the Muller
1:57:39
investigation it's a witch hunt
that's
1:57:41
all it is the witch hunt as I
call it
1:57:43
Russian witch hunt this is a
witch hunt
1:57:46
like nobody's ever seen before
the
1:57:48
author of witchcraft activism
calls the
1:57:51
president's use of the term
really
1:57:53
disgraceful I mean thousands of
people
1:57:55
were executed in Europe on
suspicion of
1:57:57
witchcraft
1:58:03
the devil 19 supposed witches
were had
1:58:06
there's a lot to be offended by
by
1:58:08
Donald Trump and I think his
use of the
1:58:10
term witch-hunt is is very low
on that
1:58:13
list of priorities for most
witches but
1:58:15
nevertheless it does
demonstrate his
1:58:17
ignorance as usual the entire
thing has
1:58:20
been a witch hunt but if the
president
1:58:22
stopped saying witch hunt
1:58:23
he'd have to hunt for a new
term tweeted
1:58:26
someone I guess he will have to
start
1:58:28
referring to it as a wild goose
chase
1:58:30
but then that might offend
geese the
1:58:33
last time witches got mixed up
in
1:58:35
politics a losing teaparty
candidate for
1:58:38
the Senate had to proclaim I'm
not a
1:58:41
witch after having said she
dabbled in
1:58:44
witchcraft in high school if
there's one
1:58:47
demographic president Trump
hasn't put a
1:58:49
spell on its witches they'd
rather put a
1:58:52
spell on him exactly the same
clip cool
1:59:09
got it yeah witch hunt nothing
is sacred
1:59:13
anymore I liked it better when
Trump
1:59:16
picked on real witches you know
lichens
1:59:20
like in this interview
Elizabeth Warren
1:59:22
will be the first she did very
badly and
1:59:24
proving that she is of Indian
heritage
1:59:27
that didn't work out too well I
think
1:59:29
you have more than she does and
maybe I
1:59:31
do too and I have nothing so
you know
1:59:34
we'll see how she does I wish
her well I
1:59:36
hope she does well I'd love to
run
1:59:38
against her she says she's in
the fight
1:59:41
all the way mr. president do
you do you
1:59:43
really think she believes she
can win
1:59:55
[Music]
1:59:57
that was a good one I wish you
would get
2:00:02
it because it would be a great
battle
2:00:03
cuz she's a they hate each other
2:00:06
well here's I got the democracy
now and
2:00:08
Warren apparently is running in
yes yes
2:00:11
yes the first one out of the
gate
2:00:13
yeah well so to speak
2:00:15
middle class is getting
hollowed out and
2:00:18
opportunity for too many of our
young
2:00:20
people is shrinking so I'm in
this fight
2:00:25
all the way right now
Washington works
2:00:28
great so the wealthy and the
2:00:29
well-connected it's just not
working for
2:00:31
anyone else but I am optimistic
I
2:00:35
believe in what we can do
together
2:00:38
I'm gonna build a grassroots
campaign on
2:00:42
Tuesday senator Warren said she
plans to
2:00:44
visit Iowa this weekend I was a
popular
2:00:47
first stop for presidential
candidates
2:00:48
this is the first state to vote
in the
2:00:50
primaries ah she's such a phony
do you
2:00:55
see her her beer moment
everyone's that
2:00:58
one all the kids are talking
about she's
2:01:00
trying to do an AOC and she's
doing that
2:01:03
periscope videos the IOC sits
around
2:01:06
this periscope in her apartment
and make
2:01:09
some depression mac and cheese
and shows
2:01:11
her how to mac and cheese me
how to make
2:01:13
some mac and cheese and
Elizabeth Warren
2:01:15
sits down and she's drinking
beer from
2:01:18
the bottle you know you need
some more
2:01:25
unique glass in the office
2:01:27
I can't drink beer from a box
drinking
2:01:29
beer from the bottle like you
know under
2:01:31
periscope and there was like
calling her
2:01:32
out it's phony you're just
trying to
2:01:35
look relevant I guess it's the
term -
2:01:39
trying to look relevant woke ya
can't
2:01:43
say woke man you can't say it
2:01:46
yes okay I have two things here
actually
2:01:49
this is something we should
investigate
2:01:51
talking here I think this is
where Dave
2:01:55
Rubin and Jordan Peterson
should put all
2:01:59
of their all of their efforts
into and
2:02:01
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they had a competitor with
PayPal for a
2:02:50
while I thought yeah that's
right I do
2:02:51
remember this account was a
competitor
2:02:53
of course it crapped out
because he
2:02:55
wouldn't pretty much unless you
were
2:02:57
like Chase Manhattan given to
JPMorgan
2:03:00
there was no way you can make
any money
2:03:02
go from A to B yeah yeah well
we do it
2:03:06
differently and I'd like to
show you how
2:03:08
we do it
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[Music]
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no agenda imagine all the
people who
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could do with us oh yeah
2:03:14
[Music]
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indeed we do have a few people
to thank
2:03:26
for show 1100 this is a
thousand more
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shows and we were gonna do a
thousand
2:03:34
more shows when I said we've
had a good
2:03:35
run John good run let's just
say we can
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stop while we're ahead stop
while we're
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ahead everybody and before you
go one
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step further
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flash meetup Gilman brewery
Berkeley
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California tomorrow 5:00 to 8:00
2:03:55
Commander Cody starts the list
off here
2:03:57
$199 I'm sending on her $99
because
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being named as a producer has
no value
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to me
2:04:04
the show is value enough oh
okay thank
2:04:08
you
2:04:08
but like commander feel free to
take
2:04:11
your credits where creditors do
that's
2:04:12
it's okay but I sure hope on
sure hoji
2:04:17
hung one or $92 what does he
have what
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is this he has some oh it's a
binary
2:04:23
donation she's a binary
donation of 1 to
2:04:26
86 for Sarah it's $1,100 in
binary and
2:04:34
it did for his 192 and he's got
it here
2:04:39
as and he's got some he's got
racing
2:04:41
he's got some breakdown there
we'll just
2:04:43
have to believe figure out for
a goat
2:04:47
scream and I think we should
just give
2:04:49
him that we are goat friendly
here
2:04:52
people sir crash EMT hundred
fifty six
2:04:55
dollars and 76 cents a happy
anniversary
2:04:59
says he and he waited he says
here's
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1111 squared with a 33 33
throwing in
2:05:06
for good measure
2:05:07
hey patreon let's see you do
that uh
2:05:09
yeah hey I can't do that now
2:05:15
I don't even know patreon could
take
2:05:16
random donations I don't think
so which
2:05:19
we rely on for to do our
segments yes
2:05:21
it's the content Larsen
Riverhead New
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Zealand 130 55 and he becomes
2:05:30
something today he has a blue
he's got a
2:05:34
blue highlighted tight or
something so
2:05:37
let me see Ian Larson yes he
becomes Sir
2:05:39
Ian Larson today fabulous
Madison pearly
2:05:45
knee in Orlando Florida one
hundred and
2:05:47
twenty dollars and eighty-eight
cents
2:05:49
another upgrade of some sort
2:05:51
now she know it is good aim yep
she's
2:05:53
being famed today
2:05:55
Michael Vitali in West
Lafayette Indiana
2:05:58
he sent in 112 35 he has a note
he says
2:06:05
he went through the trouble of
mailing
2:06:07
this we got a lot of cards by
they want
2:06:09
to thank everyone who gave us
cards
2:06:11
whether there was anything in
them we're
2:06:12
not including one from the UK
that was
2:06:14
in the smallest envelope I
think was
2:06:16
ever put through the u.s. mail
it's
2:06:19
about 2 inches by 2 inches with
a stamp
2:06:21
in the corner I don't know I
thought it
2:06:23
was illegal to send stuff that
small a
2:06:28
journey of a thousand it's my
budget for
2:06:31
the tinfoil hats for 2019 which
I no
2:06:34
longer require since being
directed to
2:06:36
the best spot cast for my son
Aaron who
2:06:39
is a douche bag still
2:06:44
and he needs addy douching he
says his
2:06:53
karma generally has been good
mostly
2:06:55
because he's attempt to be a
tad OTG not
2:06:57
as much as Adam but wandering
around
2:07:00
wandering around the edges of it
2:07:01
therefore I'd like to share a
goat car
2:07:03
with my fellow travelers
2:07:07
he's Aaron fortaleza douchebag
he's got
2:07:10
D dishing in Indiana nearly as
good as
2:07:12
uh well he's in battleground
Indiana
2:07:15
nearly as good as Knobble
alright enough
2:07:17
I just want to mention about
Madison
2:07:19
Pelini
2:07:20
because when someone's getting a
2:07:21
knighthood her dame would like
to read
2:07:23
their note she's I've been
listening to
2:07:24
the show since before election
time in
2:07:25
2016 haven't looked back you to
2:07:28
constantly blow in mind with
your
2:07:29
deconstruction I can't believe
how the
2:07:31
rest of the world can overlook
your
2:07:32
logic and theories could I
please be
2:07:35
damned Dane meow dicin cat
enthusiast
2:07:38
and I'd like Pellegrino and
purring cats
2:07:41
at the roundtable your wish is
my
2:07:45
command purring cats for meeting
2:07:49
apparently
2:07:55
Paul arson Arsenio Arsenio
2:07:59
I said Oh arsenal Arceneaux
maybe $111
2:08:05
Levin says he's named Dirk in
110 33 in
2:08:08
Greenville South Carolina that
following
2:08:10
people are the $110 celebratory
donation
2:08:13
people each one $110 from James
story
2:08:17
Daniel sheets
2:08:20
James Fulton mark Hampton Steve
Brown
2:08:25
Kurtis mace
2:08:28
Dame Karen of the Cimarron
Hills who
2:08:31
looks like she's gonna be
updated she's
2:08:32
gonna go to Baroness today
Colorado
2:08:35
Springs Colorado dan reader
David fuga
2:08:40
Zotoh in Gladstone Missouri all
right
2:08:42
geez look at Dan reader a
hundred and
2:08:45
ten dollars is one hundred and
sixty-two
2:08:48
dollars and thirteen cents in
Australia
2:08:52
yeah I know it's getting worse
by the
2:08:55
minute
2:08:55
Oh we good it's time to go
there and
2:08:57
party yeah party we can make we
can live
2:09:00
like kings le du coeur looks
like boy
2:09:06
Kirk by the way is to le
there's a flash
2:09:10
meet up today at the tomorrow
Gillman
2:09:13
brewery the flash line Gilman
Avenue yes
2:09:15
Piedmont he's in Piedmont is
over here
2:09:18
in Piedmont Matthew Janiszewski
by the
2:09:21
way it is Sir David fugu Zotoh
yes
2:09:23
Matthew Janiszewski 110 Matthew
Cole
2:09:27
Perricone I'm in San Antonio
this is his
2:09:31
first time donating he'd like a
deduced
2:09:34
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2:09:38
Dame Carol Ann in East hatchet
Ranch
2:09:42
Colorado great name for a town
110 rogue
2:09:47
Black Knight and Baron of the
Palouse
2:09:52
from the Palouse a 110 Phillip
worth
2:09:56
anonymous honored 10 Derrick
Winky
2:09:59
that's it that's our little
group of
2:10:01
well-wishers for 110 everyone's
less
2:10:03
Derrick including Derrick Winky
and
2:10:06
Clark's Clarkston Michigan I'm
sure he's
2:10:09
a local one we found ourselves
in
2:10:12
Florida was he doing something
well he
2:10:14
says uh no story here yes mm oh
he went
2:10:19
to off the grid oh you want OTG
yes you
2:10:22
say $15 a day by not signing up
for the
2:10:25
surf while you sail internet
streaming
2:10:27
package on the cruise don't
doesn't
2:10:31
wouldn't that come with the
cruise now
2:10:32
it's a separate package what
did you go
2:10:35
to buy a package why anybody
here he
2:10:39
says I did observe while in the
middle
2:10:41
of the ocean the majority of
the six and
2:10:42
half thousand passengers with
cell
2:10:44
phones in hand 24/7 if at the
pool
2:10:47
bathing suit and cellphone sad
to
2:10:49
observe but I'm much better
mentally
2:10:51
turning off my tech connection
for a
2:10:53
time
2:10:53
thanks Adam and John for the
suggestion
2:10:55
it's not just suggestion it's a
2:10:57
lifestyle my friend and J&K
thanks Derek
2:11:01
shun led to better 101 oh one
Baron
2:11:04
Latin in Houston Texas 100 John
Robin a
2:11:09
$100 Visa in Middletown New
York a
2:11:12
hundred RC mouse in Vista
California
2:11:17
he's sent a card with my the
mouse guy
2:11:21
on it RC mouse remote-control
mouse
2:11:25
thank you for so many shows of
high
2:11:27
quality I look forward to more
in 2019
2:11:31
RC mouse radio-controlled mouse
is what
2:11:35
it means I think Robert Roberts
in
2:11:38
Medford Oregon 84 69 so we got
Nate
2:11:41
Sebastopol California 69 69 sir
Gregory
2:11:45
Davy yeah I want to read this
66 66 this
2:11:49
is a make good he was extremely
2:11:51
surprised to hear himself night
at his
2:11:52
sir Greg Davies the heavy heavy
metal
2:11:55
historian a couple shows ago as
it turns
2:11:56
out he writes my wonderful
girlfriend
2:11:58
Jennifer WETA gifted me the
donation to
2:12:01
get me over the line for
Christmas to
2:12:02
finally sit with fellow
producers at the
2:12:04
roundtable and finally sink
2:12:06
teeth into that luscious mutton
and Mead
2:12:08
understandable however on the
day I was
2:12:11
knighted her name wasn't
mentioned in
2:12:12
donation segment I understand
these
2:12:13
things happen but I want to
ensure she
2:12:15
could at least be mentioned on
the show
2:12:16
for helping me over the line he
has a
2:12:19
bigger reason during 2018 he
had a
2:12:21
cancer scare in which he
damaged his
2:12:23
esophagus for contacts he says
my mother
2:12:25
died from cancer of esophagus
as did her
2:12:27
uncle before her naturally with
such
2:12:29
family history I jumped into
seeing a
2:12:30
doctor immediately thankfully
some of
2:12:32
the good old F cancer karma you
send out
2:12:34
to all listeners at times must
have been
2:12:36
a great help it turned out I
was cancer
2:12:37
free but had developed a nasty
and
2:12:39
chronic condition called
Barrett's
2:12:41
esophagus have you have you
heard of
2:12:44
this No along the last few
months of
2:12:47
2018 I was in a lot of pain
unable to
2:12:48
eat incredibly weak and sick
Jennifer
2:12:50
stuck by me this whole time and
has
2:12:52
helped me beyond any kind of
call of
2:12:54
duty I honestly have absolutely
zero
2:12:56
idea how I would even be able
to go
2:12:59
through this ordeal without her
help and
2:13:00
love she's my rock the love of
my life
2:13:02
and want to let you both know
how
2:13:04
important her donation to me to
get
2:13:06
night night hood meant we've
been fans
2:13:08
of no agenda for years listen
together
2:13:10
all the time her donation gave
me a huge
2:13:12
boost of positivity it meant a
lot to me
2:13:14
and want you and the listeners
to know
2:13:16
this thank you very much and
he's on
2:13:19
that he's on the mend he says
this is
2:13:21
all good and we will roll out
an eff
2:13:22
cancer karma for you and for
everyone
2:13:24
else who bless the sweet nobody
that's a
2:13:26
nice note and that's important
to read
2:13:28
that oh good Christopher
Bennett sixty
2:13:31
dollars and six cents small
boobs and
2:13:33
your sirs hold on wait you an
individual
2:13:36
whose name or title I do not
know call
2:13:37
him out as nearly normal Jimmy
2:13:42
I think it means happy by that
I think
2:13:44
it means a douchebag call no no
no no
2:13:46
this you know he says he will
contact
2:13:48
you with the key word below to
have the
2:13:51
donation applied to his peerage
oh he
2:13:54
did okay whoops the last
month's of show
2:14:00
I've been top notch
2:14:02
I've been meant to donate with
Michigan
2:14:05
local one a few weeks back not
that we
2:14:08
really care about Michigan
people are
2:14:09
called Michiganders not michigo
nians
2:14:13
okay we'll never remember that
but I'd
2:14:17
been told this before and I've
recited
2:14:20
Maine has some other crazy name
for them
2:14:22
to us not maniac no it's
Maynard's it's
2:14:26
Maynard's oh I don't know I'm
just
2:14:27
guessing
2:14:31
it's all st. are its Austinites
not
2:14:34
Austin's
2:14:36
fYI that's tonight yes yeah not
2:14:39
Australian I said I knew that
but I
2:14:41
never use it I just don't use
it I'm
2:14:43
from California we do what we
want
2:14:45
yes clearly Sir Tom Daria and
DeForest
2:14:48
Wisconsin 5510 sir Brian
baronet of
2:14:51
North Connecticut 5510 he has
just a
2:14:56
simple note that was a card
beautiful
2:14:59
card he's got a picture of his
little
2:15:00
girl on the back they just had
a baby
2:15:04
falling up in New Haven search
Carly we
2:15:07
just this everyone just we
ended with
2:15:09
tardes Maine tards tards
Michigan tardes
2:15:13
Austin tardes
2:15:15
you put a little Carmen him for
the end
2:15:18
yes uh Joseph halassi in key Lu
2:15:24
Kyoya Kyoya kill the Kilauea
Kilauea I
2:15:29
knew I'd get it Kilauea Hawaii
2:15:33
50:33 spell he's a little do
you in
2:15:35
Hawaiian I do know you
pronounce every
2:15:37
single letter in some way or
shape or
2:15:39
form but I didn't know that
Kilauea is
2:15:42
obviously we had pronounced
that Brian
2:15:44
Matthews 50 these are 50 dollar
donors
2:15:46
name and location Brian
Matthews James
2:15:48
chap Coe and Crown Point
Indiana Scotty
2:15:50
knight in lost wages Nevada
2:15:52
Amanda total in chilly coat Ohio
2:15:58
this is toward Tyler Stuart's
knighthood
2:16:00
Jeremy Cartwright in Rockford
Illinois
2:16:03
sir pipe links of the one-night
stand
2:16:08
with a K he has a birthday for
fiance
2:16:11
Palin khana watts the lady of
Lynn's
2:16:14
she's on the list
2:16:16
yes you got on the list Bradley
ledin
2:16:20
and that's it that's our whole
group of
2:16:22
well-wishers for show and
producers we
2:16:25
showed 1101 a thank each and
every one
2:16:27
of her helping make the show a
success
2:16:29
yes and thanking people who
came in
2:16:32
under $50 either for anonymity
purposes
2:16:36
or you're on one of the
subscriptions
2:16:38
now did we not launch a new
subscription
2:16:39
amount 11-11-11 a week a week I
do it
2:16:44
now it's the law the new see if
anybody
2:16:48
came in with that 11 11 11 11
we got
2:16:51
someone love I don't know if is
there
2:16:52
were some people the guy cried
we're
2:16:54
talked about in the last show a
guy
2:16:55
complained that this Weekly
might want
2:16:57
to put a little more out than
the then
2:17:00
the four which is what we are
weekly is
2:17:02
mm-hmm
2:17:03
and so I put 11 11 well I got a
bunch 11
2:17:05
less but I can't tell if they're
2:17:06
weeklies or not on this
spreadsheet well
2:17:08
we appreciate all of the
support we've
2:17:10
received and a way to kick off
the new
2:17:14
year thank you very much
2:17:15
we do this twice a week
Thursdays and
2:17:17
Sundays the only way it keeps
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2:17:19
because you tell us how much
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the product by sending us what
you
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thought it was worth it's a
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2:17:31
we appreciate this from our
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here and also our producers in
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you've got we have sir JD sang
happy
2:18:14
birthday to assisted Francis who
2:18:16
celebrated on Christmas Day
2:18:17
he says happy birthday to his
mom Marion
2:18:19
she turns 71 today and his wife
will be
2:18:24
celebrating on January 15th
Dame Carol
2:18:26
Ann says happy birthday to her
husband
2:18:28
who turned 72 years old and she
all says
2:18:31
happy birthday to her son
Joshua chase
2:18:33
he turns 40 and finally sir
pipe links
2:18:35
of the one night stand
2:18:36
says happy birthday to his
fiancee Halen
2:18:39
Cunha watt she will be
celebrating on
2:18:41
the six happy birthday from
everybody
2:18:43
here at the best podcasting in
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universe around could you say
2:18:54
as we all think your brothers
and
2:18:57
sisters who
2:19:01
[Music]
2:19:09
today for Dame Karen of Simran
Hills she
2:19:14
becomes Baroness of the blue
and of the
2:19:17
blue moon sorry Baroness a blue
moon
2:19:19
answer Patrick Coble becomes
the Earl of
2:19:21
Tennessee and we congratulate
both of
2:19:24
them and John your dude Bob
Dylan called
2:19:29
and you'd like you to stop
whatever
2:19:30
you're doing
2:19:32
he says not good stop stop
doing them
2:19:38
look get your blade out
immediately the
2:19:53
knights and dames and I'm very
proud to
2:19:56
pronounce the kV with the
following
2:19:58
title Sir Marcus of the
hinterland Ian
2:20:00
of the hinterland sorry Sir Ian
Larsen
2:20:04
and Dame me audison cat
enthusiasts for
2:20:07
you we've got hookers and blow
2:20:09
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Pellegrino and
2:20:11
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and meatloaf trophies entire
smoked
2:20:15
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and
2:20:17
gerbils cases and Saki
2:20:19
rubinettes women and rose a
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2:20:21
and pablum we've got bong hits
and
2:20:23
bourbon and there it is the
luscious
2:20:25
mutton mean for the three of you
2:20:27
congratulations thank you for
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it's a big deal to us we really
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2:20:51
everybody then make you the
envy of the
2:20:53
block leave his white
gold-plated
2:20:58
is it white gold plated yeah I
think so
2:21:00
not silver huh white gold it's
white
2:21:04
gold plated yeah like that way
those the
2:21:08
div is silver would make it but
a black
2:21:09
thing on your right hand it
contains no
2:21:11
tungsten so it doesn't sustain
contains
2:21:15
no tungsten it's all good hey
Alex Jones
2:21:20
is coming unglued man he's
coming what a
2:21:24
thing to start off this segment
with I
2:21:26
got it I got to play this for
you him
2:21:28
coming unglued
2:21:30
I think the deep platforming
unglued man
2:21:51
you know they're giving kids
vaccines
2:21:54
everywhere that eat their
freaking
2:21:55
cerebral cortex ya know I'm not
really
2:21:58
familiar with vaccines
literally the
2:22:18
point is this crap this is why
you don't
2:22:21
do meth kids man each day Adam
is just
2:22:27
kidding yeah of course I'm
kidding
2:22:28
well he's not kidding about not
doing
2:22:30
math no but the implication
that this
2:22:32
guy doesn't need meth oh man
it's
2:22:35
justice he's high on life man
no I think
2:22:39
it yeah he's he's he's high on
that male
2:22:41
vitality or whatever that stuff
you
2:22:43
cells
2:22:46
uh Trump I think again I don't
think
2:22:49
just sitting there cursing like
that is
2:22:51
really the way to get his
audience back
2:22:53
I don't think he lost his
audience at
2:22:56
all I think he's doing just
fine maybe
2:22:59
he did he was around way before
looking
2:23:03
all right he probably has not
lost his
2:23:04
artists it's the casual
audience the
2:23:06
ones that only see him
occasionally I
2:23:08
would include myself in that
well no
2:23:10
here's what happened to him see
the
2:23:12
difference is you and I we
accept our
2:23:14
position in the media space
which is way
2:23:18
down below on the ladder you
know
2:23:21
underneath some incurable
diseases
2:23:23
that's kind of where we are and
we
2:23:25
applaud cast yeah we were
podcasters we
2:23:27
accept it he can't accept it
that he's
2:23:31
no longer in the in the milieu
that
2:23:36
people is no longer being
talked about
2:23:39
that's I think that's his
problem he
2:23:42
thrives on people talking about
him good
2:23:45
or bad doesn't matter and now
it is just
2:23:47
vapid you know there's just no
mention
2:23:49
of him even with deep
platforming he's
2:23:51
no longer even mentioned
2:23:54
he's just you know removed
something
2:23:56
when they started talking about
the
2:23:58
biggies that were deep platform
he is
2:23:59
showing up less and less yeah
yeah it's
2:24:02
just moving down and and I
think that
2:24:04
that bothers him he has to
accept it and
2:24:07
that's where he came from he
was always
2:24:08
the anti guy because we don't
need them
2:24:11
screw the mainstream and you
know I
2:24:12
think it's affecting him anyway
I just
2:24:14
thought it was not heard a rant
like
2:24:16
that from him in a while just
that just
2:24:19
cause you ranting about who
knows it's
2:24:22
just angry she's angry I think
the
2:24:26
president gave us a little clue
2:24:30
about stock market activity he
is the
2:24:33
stock whisperer these days you
know he
2:24:35
just did that thing pumped up
yeah
2:24:38
well listen to this would have
been a
2:24:39
lot easier for me to sit back
and just
2:24:41
let it continue but it was out
of
2:24:43
control and our strong economy
makes it
2:24:46
even more difficult because
people come
2:24:48
up because our country's doing
better by
2:24:51
far than any other country in
the world
2:24:52
from an economic standpoint
with the
2:24:55
talk of the world yeah and we
had a
2:24:58
little glitch in the stock
market last
2:24:59
month now he says we had that
normally I
2:25:03
freaked out over the use of the
term
2:25:05
glitch but that's typically
when it's in
2:25:07
a technology report oh well
yeah the
2:25:11
airline but everyday ticketing
broke
2:25:13
because of the glitch who
couldn't print
2:25:16
the newspaper cuz of the glitch
Trump
2:25:18
you know he's simple you gotta
listen to
2:25:21
what he's saying I think he's
saying
2:25:22
here that there was actually
not at not
2:25:26
that something broke but that
the stock
2:25:27
market ran rampant as we
discussed with
2:25:30
the algorithmic amplification
and he
2:25:33
considers that to be a glitch
2:25:38
I accept that so what you're
saying is
2:25:40
he's hinting to buy it I'm not
I'm not
2:25:43
drawing that conclusion I'm
hinting that
2:25:45
he understands somehow that
these wild
2:25:48
swings are not really based on
anything
2:25:52
then some piece of news and all
the out
2:25:54
goes jump on a man I'd look at
it you'll
2:25:57
see five different big company
stocks
2:26:00
all locked into like the SP you
know
2:26:04
there were SP why the spy and
spiders by
2:26:06
and and and it goes up and then
it's you
2:26:09
can put three charts next to
each other
2:26:11
they're just locked in it's
just come
2:26:12
yet and so if if the AL goes go
nuts
2:26:14
then everyone goes nuts and it
just goes
2:26:17
on or on it's very dangerous I
just did
2:26:21
I mention that there is a meet
up on
2:26:23
Friday in Berkeley and you'll
be there
2:26:27
along with Mimi's it's fancy
adorable
2:26:30
come see everybody it's gonna be
2:26:31
fantastic
2:26:33
I was uh well I have a moment
here where
2:26:38
I could do my whatever happened
to oh
2:26:41
you know what you can do your
whatever
2:26:43
happened to and I won't give
you I think
2:26:47
we have a jingle for you let's
see
2:26:49
Tom Starkweather yeah whatever
happened
2:26:59
to jingle enjoy it
2:27:01
yeah great that's a real
uplifting okay
2:27:05
from 2009 this is a this was a
meme they
2:27:09
tried to get going to get
people to you
2:27:12
know save the planet global
warming this
2:27:14
is almost 10 years ago global
warming
2:27:17
was caused by fat people tiptoe
on why
2:27:23
researchers say obesity is bad
for the
2:27:26
environment obesity and global
warming
2:27:29
both heavy topics now linked by
a new
2:27:32
study from the London School of
Hygiene
2:27:34
and Tropical Medicine it says
people who
2:27:36
weigh more tend to drive more
and eat
2:27:39
more and all that food it
shipped on
2:27:41
average 1,500 miles from where
it's
2:27:43
grown to your plate fat people
2:27:46
researchers contend are killing
the
2:27:48
planet more so than those who
are thin
2:27:55
[Music]
2:28:02
we were on a good tip with that
yeah I
2:28:05
was in 2009 and I just dropped
it like a
2:28:07
hot potato when they looked at
the
2:28:09
audience of people bitch and
moan about
2:28:11
climate change they said oh my
god these
2:28:14
people are all overweight well
this
2:28:16
brings me to a fabulous first
show of
2:28:20
chip Todd's what's his name
Chuck Todd
2:28:24
Chuck Todd Chuck Todd Meet the
Press
2:28:26
whatever it is meat depression
this
2:28:28
Sunday the climate crisis brace
2:28:30
yourselves for dangerous feet
the
2:28:32
drought we're in is
2:28:33
Astra's everyone ought to be
worried
2:28:35
about it rainfall amounts
really are
2:28:37
staggering everything we own is
2:28:39
destroyed annual average
temperatures in
2:28:46
the US could increase anywhere
from 2 to
2:28:49
11 degrees to fast-moving fire
storms
2:28:51
within miles of each other the
Garden of
2:28:55
Eden just turned into gates of
Hell the
2:28:57
evidence is everywhere you can
answer
2:28:59
yourself the science is settled
2:29:02
it's ridiculous to say it
wouldn't be
2:29:04
better the administration in
Washington
2:29:06
didn't deny science but the
politics is
2:29:10
not climate change is real and
it is
2:29:13
urgent problem that we need to
bear down
2:29:17
on it
2:29:17
this morning will report on the
2:29:19
challenge of climate change the
science
2:29:21
the damage to our environment
the cost
2:29:24
and the politics welcome to
Sunday and
2:29:28
this special edition of Meet
the Press
2:29:32
from NBC News
2:29:34
the longest-running show in
television
2:29:35
history this is a special
edition of
2:29:38
Meet the Press with Chuck Todd
good
2:29:42
Sunday morning and a Happy New
Year's
2:29:43
weekend to everyone this
morning we're
2:29:45
gonna do something that we
don't often
2:29:46
get to do on one topic
2:29:49
it's obviously extraordinarily
difficult
2:29:51
to do this show as the end of
this year
2:29:53
has proven in the air of no not
clear
2:29:56
but we're gonna take an
in-depth look
2:29:57
regardless of that at a
literally earth
2:30:00
changing subject that doesn't
get talked
2:30:02
about this thoroughly on
television news
2:30:03
at least climate change but
just as
2:30:06
important as what we are going
to do
2:30:08
this hour is what we're not
going to do
2:30:10
we're not going to debate
climate change
2:30:12
the existence of it the earth
is getting
2:30:14
hotter and human activity is a
major
2:30:16
cause period we're not going to
give
2:30:18
time to climate deniers the
science is
2:30:21
settled even if political
opinion is not
2:30:24
[Music]
2:30:30
unreal
2:30:32
sure we're gonna hold it do a
whole hour
2:30:34
and we're not gonna let anyone
with an
2:30:37
opposing view talk because it's
settled
2:30:40
it's done the science is in
2:30:44
it's not how science works it
does on
2:30:47
NBC
2:30:53
this baffles me it doesn't
bother me at
2:30:56
all that they'll push anything
anything
2:30:59
they can anything I have so I'm
2:31:02
listening around going around
looking
2:31:03
for some a little offbeat and
so I ran
2:31:08
into a podcast that's where you
can find
2:31:11
the offbeat stuff for sure this
podcast
2:31:14
is done by David Axelrod oh
goody
2:31:18
former chief of staff for Obama
2:31:22
now Axelrod there's also a
campaigning
2:31:26
manager yes more excellence yes
he is
2:31:30
who I don't know who does his
podcast
2:31:32
but it took me a good 15
minutes to
2:31:34
equalize that one guy shouting
why did
2:31:39
you do that why did you why did
you ruin
2:31:40
the original we could have so
much fun
2:31:42
listening to this production
2:31:44
because I'm not taking the
chance on you
2:31:46
grousing about okay it was just
like
2:31:48
completely out of control but I
2:31:50
normalized it enough that it's
2:31:52
listenable
2:31:52
this is Axelrod with of all
people Jeff
2:31:56
Zucker ooh from CNN yeah former
Suffern
2:32:01
Suffern had a big treating
career and I
2:32:05
didn't realize he's had cancer
and a
2:32:08
heart operation he had Bell's
palsy and
2:32:13
he's had everything in his life
he's
2:32:16
only a short guy six five six
and it
2:32:19
talks about it you know in this
podcast
2:32:21
there's a very good podcast
people
2:32:23
should look it up just look up
Axelrod
2:32:25
Tucker podcast I have two clips
which
2:32:29
indicate to me that either
Zucker
2:32:30
doesn't know what he's talking
about or
2:32:32
he's naive or I don't know what
but
2:32:36
they're very interesting
because he was
2:32:38
very successful as an executive
at NBC
2:32:41
before he took over the place
in other
2:32:42
words a low-level guy he was
much better
2:32:44
than he was when he's running
things he
2:32:47
doesn't want to put Leno on
every night
2:32:49
at 10:00 you have any clue it's
great
2:32:51
Network good work
2:32:54
but let's listen talk about him
on he
2:32:57
did fix it to the Today Show by
being
2:32:59
one of the execs there and I
want to
2:33:02
play two clips from him this
one is the
2:33:04
two events click the clip clip
now there
2:33:08
were two events that also
really helped
2:33:09
us change the dynamic of the
Today Show
2:33:12
the OJ Simpson trial in 1995 I
think we
2:33:17
recognized early on that this
was going
2:33:19
to be a real cultural touch
point and we
2:33:23
we covered it intensely and and
did you
2:33:28
know went all in on coverage of
this
2:33:29
which is a theme that I would
later
2:33:31
reprise at CNN when we would go
all in
2:33:34
on a big story but the first
time we
2:33:35
ever did this was was on the OJ
Simpson
2:33:38
trial and Charlie Gibson was
the anchor
2:33:40
of GMA and he took shots at us
in in the
2:33:43
newspapers by saying I can't
believe how
2:33:45
much coverage of OJ Simpson
they're
2:33:47
doing and and my response was
well it's
2:33:49
interesting it's good and the
audience
2:33:51
wants it and then and then the
other and
2:33:53
then the next thing that
happened was
2:33:54
like so anyway when he was at
NBC and
2:33:58
promoted the OJ Simpson trial
and NBC
2:34:00
picked up on it the whole thing
mm-hmm
2:34:02
that dribbled up to the to the
Tonight
2:34:06
Show with Jay Leno who was
trailing
2:34:08
David Letterman during this era
and Leno
2:34:14
went all in on the Simpson
trial by
2:34:17
having the dancing itõs a
whole bunch of
2:34:21
gimmicks and crazy stuff about
the
2:34:24
Letterman said that he refuses
to even
2:34:27
discuss it in his monologue
because it's
2:34:29
too you know creepy so he just
stayed
2:34:33
away from it completely Leno
went all in
2:34:36
the way Zucker did and Leno
overtook
2:34:38
Letterman and Letterman never
caught him
2:34:40
again after that ah okay and
and my
2:34:43
response was well it's
interesting it's
2:34:44
good and the audience wants it
and then
2:34:47
and then the other and then the
next
2:34:48
thing that happened was the 96
election
2:34:51
I'm sorry when I was supervising
2:34:56
producers that I need to
election the
2:34:58
first one was the 92 election
when I
2:35:00
took over I'm sorry 1992
elections yeah
2:35:02
and that was an incredibly
exciting
2:35:04
election because there were
three
2:35:05
candidates right Russ Roslyn
right and
2:35:09
we actually had a tremendous in
with
2:35:12
Ross Perot and so we recognized
his
2:35:15
popularity very early on and we
had Ross
2:35:18
Perot on all the time before
anybody
2:35:21
else did and the other thing is
then we
2:35:22
would start having Bill Clinton
on for
2:35:26
these hour-long interviews when
the when
2:35:29
the history of interviews with
2:35:30
candidates was you'd have him
on for
2:35:32
five minutes okay we had him on
for an
2:35:34
hour and then we had Imams
uniquely
2:35:36
qualified by doing huh he was
okay but
2:35:39
we took advantage of that and
then we'd
2:35:41
have Bill Clinton on for two
hours so
2:35:44
the entire Today Show was two
hours we'd
2:35:46
have Ross Perot on for an hour
more two
2:35:49
hours and so it was like nobody
could
2:35:52
believe that this is what the
Today Show
2:35:53
was doing but they were talking
about us
2:35:55
we were getting we were getting
notices
2:35:58
we were relevant in a way we
hadn't been
2:36:01
and so that is how we changed
up the
2:36:03
Today Show hmm interesting so
he's the
2:36:07
one that pushed the the Clinton
thing
2:36:10
sure I then had Ross Perot as
the
2:36:12
spoiler that take votes away
from George
2:36:14
HW would meant Clinton got
elected in 92
2:36:18
I think a lot of it had to do
with this
2:36:20
guy Zucker giving these guys
this much
2:36:23
free airtime two hours the
whole show
2:36:26
free to clean he didn't pay for
it yes
2:36:28
but but the brilliance of it is
by
2:36:31
splitting the Republican vote
with Ross
2:36:34
Perot you know he wins in both
ways he
2:36:37
wins by helping Clinton get
elected and
2:36:40
he looks like he's unbiased
because he
2:36:43
has two opposing candidates on
and I'm
2:36:45
sure he invited George HW Bush
you
2:36:47
wouldn't do an hour
2:36:48
he may be five-six but he was
smart
2:36:52
now he still doesn't realize
the power
2:36:56
of television when he gives us
this
2:36:58
anecdote because he denies that
all the
2:37:01
excessive coverage of Trump had
nothing
2:37:04
to do with this election he's
got some
2:37:06
rational ID some rational
rationalities
2:37:09
to it okay and so let's play
the other
2:37:11
clip and when he came down the
escalator
2:37:13
and did his thing what was your
reaction
2:37:17
so my reaction was you know
stop I want
2:37:23
to do a little background
sucker was the
2:37:26
guy who helped create the show
The
2:37:29
Apprentice starring Donald
Trump oh
2:37:31
that's good but I didn't know
that and
2:37:32
he was a big he was friends
with Trump
2:37:35
and he he's always saw Trump as
a
2:37:41
natural charismatic guy who
always
2:37:44
people just liked him and for
no good
2:37:46
reason than him often and he
would and
2:37:48
he used that he leveraged I
says nobody
2:37:50
else wanted to show The
Apprentice but
2:37:52
he knew it was gonna be a hit
because
2:37:54
this guy Trump was a natural at
2:37:57
promoting and self promoting
and getting
2:37:59
publicity that they didn't have
to pay
2:38:01
for and this stuff like that so
he was a
2:38:03
kind of a Trump fan from that
2:38:05
perspective start this clip
over please
2:38:06
and when he came down the
escalator and
2:38:08
did his thing what was your
reaction so
2:38:12
my reaction was you know the
contents of
2:38:17
that speech aside when he
announced was
2:38:19
that look I think that I
recognized his
2:38:22
popular appeal I think that I
understood
2:38:25
from The Apprentice and
watching him and
2:38:28
all of that that there was a
there was a
2:38:32
something about Trump and his
and his
2:38:38
character that was popular and
I thought
2:38:41
would would work and I do think
that
2:38:44
that's one of the reasons that
that I
2:38:47
had CNN pay attention right
away to
2:38:52
Donald Trump because I think at
a time
2:38:54
if you go back the first couple
months
2:38:56
most national news media
organizations
2:38:59
did not take it very seriously
CNN did
2:39:02
right away and we turned out to
be right
2:39:05
well some would argue that it
was a that
2:39:07
that it's a chicken and egg
thing that
2:39:09
part of what CNN did was help
yeah III
2:39:11
disagree with that and I'll
tell you why
2:39:13
you know he announces comes
down the
2:39:16
escalator announces and three
weeks
2:39:18
later he's number one in the
polls in
2:39:21
the Republican Party and he and
he holds
2:39:24
on to that till he becomes the
2:39:25
Republican nominee so he was he
was the
2:39:27
favorite among that entire
field three
2:39:31
weeks in so I don't think that
CNN made
2:39:34
him number one in three weeks
okay I
2:39:36
think that he had that appeal
and and
2:39:39
and we were covering the
front-runner we
2:39:41
would cover the front-runner
2:39:43
disproportionately in in any
race so III
2:39:47
don't I don't you said
something earlier
2:39:49
in our discussion here that
struck me
2:39:53
and it leads to a question
about this
2:39:55
and television generally you
said the
2:39:58
audience wants it and that is
obviously
2:40:01
something that's always in your
head
2:40:02
Donald Trump understands that
if you
2:40:05
light yourself on fire
2:40:06
that's good TV so look you
understand
2:40:09
that as well and you needed
that they
2:40:11
were that was good for CNN was
it not
2:40:13
well look I'm not gonna
apologize I
2:40:16
think what a lot of people want
is for
2:40:18
you know people to say that you
do you
2:40:21
shouldn't you should apologize
for
2:40:25
giving the audience what they're
2:40:27
interested in this goes back to
the
2:40:29
plane and and we took a lot of
heat for
2:40:32
the poop cruise at one time
listen I
2:40:34
think what we have always done
whether
2:40:37
it was at the Today Show or CNN
is we've
2:40:39
never been above what the
audience is
2:40:42
interested in and I think this
idea that
2:40:45
you know you should only feed
the
2:40:46
audience spinach and you should
tell
2:40:48
them what's important I reject
that Wow
2:40:54
first of all he's full of crap
but so
2:40:58
are you a news organization or
an
2:41:00
entertainment units of Time
Warner seems
2:41:03
like just pure entertainment
he's only
2:41:05
talking about what the audience
wants
2:41:07
not what is Newton's I didn't
hear the
2:41:09
word news once no sounds like
there was
2:41:13
collusion to CNN helped Trump
get
2:41:16
elected he's kind of saying it
well he's
2:41:19
kind of trying not to say it
2:41:21
yeah he's choosing his words
very
2:41:22
carefully very very carefully I
predict
2:41:27
for this year John will
probably be
2:41:28
seeing a lot more of us
clipping stuff
2:41:30
from podcasts I really do I
really do
2:41:34
because the real inner material
you get
2:41:37
some in-depth people that when
you're
2:41:40
doing a podcast is different
than being
2:41:42
another day oh oh oh yeah
camera in your
2:41:45
face and all these things yep
media
2:41:48
deconstruction will be more
podcasts in
2:41:51
2019 I'm feeling it and
secretly a
2:41:55
little proud of that actually
yes meet
2:42:03
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Company
2:42:07
in Berkeley a Friday that's
five to
2:42:10
eight Gillman brewing is on
Beacon it's
2:42:12
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2:42:15
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2:42:17
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2:42:20
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law condo in the morning
everybody
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I'm Adam curry and from
northern Silicon
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Valley which is where the
guilded
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brewery is I out here watching
the
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trains in the meantime I'm John
Steed
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before we return on Sunday with
news of
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the meet up the flash news
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till then adios mofos and such
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well congratulations for
getting this
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far yes you too and I could
certainly
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thanks
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not bad at all I think the
Attic could
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run that expunged on we should
just
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click over ahead what would I
be doing
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if we had if I had actually
quit the
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podcast Alex thousand shows
were the
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stuff
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no sponsors to say
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and take
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just as many days
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Oh
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we go
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baby
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sir
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therefore
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with you
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whose far
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there
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but spare
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Wow
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where to
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he's pretty hard to beat I mean
we're
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kind of grooming him to take
over the
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show aren't we mofo Dvorak
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