0:00
as you said like a Lebanese
merchant
0:01
Adam curry Johnson 1101 this is
no
0:12
agenda Silicon Valley where
it's raining
0:25
it's raining its global warming
I'm John
0:28
Steed abour oh boy it's raining
oh my
0:35
goodness what are you gonna do
in
0:37
California I don't know there's
water
0:40
pouring out of the skies it's
the end of
0:43
global warming's apocalypse oh
wait look
0:45
we know since the 18-49 people
have been
0:49
writing about the hellhole that
is
0:50
California yep nothing new
nothing new
0:55
and we missed the Zephyr holy
bash
0:59
second show thee of the year
already
1:02
missing the Zephyr
1:06
I hear that too for coming and
it's
1:10
rolling round the bend
1:16
you've inspired people John
inspire
1:20
people
1:24
hello hello I said you inspire
people
1:28
and you were just very quiet I
was
1:30
laughing who was it with the
Johnny Cash
1:32
flow that's who do you think it
is it is
1:35
it is our drunken Chris yes
because I do
1:39
that voice man he did a whole
end of
1:41
show song for us and see Matt
did this
1:45
one
2:00
you know long after we are gone
these
2:03
songs will still be floating
around the
2:04
internet they won't know or
know why wow
2:09
man
2:10
2019 back in the day those guys
were
2:13
weird weirdos what is this
zephyr they
2:17
keep talking about come on
let's get
2:19
back in my flying car yeah
that'll be
2:23
the day is yes before we start
we have
2:26
travel advisories from the
United States
2:27
State Department travel warning
for
2:30
Americans going to China be
careful but
2:33
also travel advisory for Italy
terror
2:38
advisory no less yeah terrorist
groups
2:41
continue plotting possible
attacks in
2:43
Italy terrorists may attack
with little
2:46
or no warning
2:46
that's how it works massive
terror
2:50
attack in Italy that affected
the
2:52
tourists I think I you know I
sent this
2:54
to Willow who lives in Florence
that's a
2:56
actually Thea's oleh outside of
Florence
2:59
and she said oh this is because
of our
3:00
art a whole government they're
putting
3:03
fear into everybody and somehow
that's
3:05
trickling up or through or
whatever
3:07
that's what she said
3:08
says it makes no sense they
make sense
3:10
at all but I do like how the
State
3:12
Department formulates it
terrorists may
3:14
attack with little or no
warning really
3:17
this is a revelation yeah they
gave lots
3:21
of warning told people with the
3:22
neighborhood is gonna be and
they were
3:23
when they were gonna attack how
they
3:24
were gonna attack and what day
they may
3:27
be targeting tourist locations
transit
3:29
transportation hubs marketing or
3:31
shopping malls markets or
shopping malls
3:33
local government facilities
hotels clubs
3:35
restaurants places of worship
parks
3:37
major sporting and cultural
events
3:38
educational institutions
airports and
3:40
other public areas when was the
last
3:44
time in Italy that any of those
places
3:47
were targeted by terrorists I
don't know
3:50
I don't know
3:51
never mm-hmm no they've had
stuff go on
3:55
in Italy they've had problems
that's
3:57
usually that's damn blown up a
church
4:00
hmmm places of worship yeah
maybe a
4:03
mosque
4:04
yeah well that's also a place
of worship
4:06
yeah well I mean that me that
would be a
4:08
target for some of the
terrorists who
4:10
hated the other sect but I'm
not buying
4:14
it huh well I found this week -
or this
4:18
weekend to be a little tougher
even than
4:20
Christmas as people still were
just
4:22
really weren't quite back and
you know
4:25
there was I think there's a lot
of
4:27
people on furlough and to pull
out to
4:29
the post office to get the mail
there's
4:30
like five pieces there said the
usual
4:32
tan 115 cows that were
suffering again
4:37
yes checks and but I mean it
comes
4:42
Avenger let me let me just get
this
4:44
right so the furlough or the
partial
4:47
shutdown as it's called is
hurting the
4:50
show directly
4:52
yeah I think so because people
get do
4:55
our people that listen to this
show
4:56
that's dead donate yep
4:59
they get a check in fact we
probably
5:02
when we probably have more
government
5:03
listeners than we realize
probably and
5:07
probably more of them not
donating than
5:08
we realize that probably is a
little bit
5:12
but I think we don't think it's
just a
5:14
direct connection I think a lot
of it's
5:16
just a the overall connection
because of
5:19
the slowed down of everything
and
5:22
they're trying to snap out of
the
5:23
holiday season and all that
sort of
5:25
thing right yeah DC girl who
would know
5:28
says payroll goes in on the 9th
and
5:30
payday is or is not the 11th so
that's
5:34
that's when that's the real
date when it
5:37
starts to get difficult for
people
5:40
I I must say Oh Trump says it
could go
5:42
on for years that's not exactly
what he
5:45
said I watched his I watched
his Rose
5:46
Garden appearance which I
thought was
5:48
one of yours I thought when it
was it
5:50
was one of his better
appearances he was
5:52
very calm he was reasonably
coherent he
5:56
didn't have a lot of the a
world thing
5:58
but me didn't have a lot of
that Bob
6:02
took questions did another one
of those
6:04
fun hey you know shall I keep
asking me
6:06
one you got more questions so I
keep
6:08
this going a little bit you
guys like it
6:09
even through a question to that
6:13
what's-her-name from the the
black radio
6:15
network
6:17
I have no you're not Anna
Navarro but
6:19
the other one you know what I'm
talking
6:21
about yes you do enjoy
6:25
no no she's MSNBC no from the
the April
6:30
Ryan oh god the work yes and
she had an
6:33
okay question and he's a no good
6:35
question he was like he was
happy
6:37
everyone was nice and and he
was kind
6:40
although as I'm watching some
watching
6:42
it I'm thinking in my head he's
bringing
6:44
in so first of all we just kind
of
6:45
change the wall to Bay can be
steel it's
6:48
American steel area area but
steel so be
6:51
good for American companies okay
6:53
interesting and then he brings
dhaka
6:55
back in he literally said I
want people
6:59
to come in and have a pathway to
7:01
citizenship we need the people
he said
7:04
all these things and I'm
thinking maybe
7:06
this wall maybe this five point
six
7:09
billion five billion is just is
just
7:11
kind of a no maybe he's going
for a full
7:13
immigration deal
7:15
who knows they just it just
kind of hit
7:18
me like just going for
something bigger
7:20
I was gonna now analyze it
correctly
7:23
whatever he's up to he in his
rose
7:27
garden statement he did make it
very
7:29
clear he has a he has his
fallback
7:31
position yes good so first let
me know
7:37
when you get tired I'm not have
you
7:39
considered using emergency
powers and to
7:43
grant yourself authorities to
build this
7:44
wall without congressional
approval and
7:47
second guess I have to go you
have yes I
7:50
have and I can do it if I want
so you
7:52
don't need congressional
approval to
7:54
build no we can use them
absolutely we
7:56
can call a national emergency
because of
7:58
the security of our country
absolutely
8:00
no we can do it I haven't done
it I may
8:02
do it I may do it but we can
call a
8:05
national emergency and build it
very
8:07
quickly and it's another way of
doing it
8:10
but if we can do it through a
negotiated
8:12
process we're giving that a
shot so is
8:15
that a threat hanging over the
Democrats
8:17
I never threaten anybody
8:19
hmm alright the only promise
since when
8:22
but the best part and if I had
had a
8:25
beverage in my in my between my
lips it
8:28
would have been spewing
throughout the
8:30
throughout the common-law condo
and it
8:34
kind of fits in with this Trump
the
8:35
stock whisperer because
whenever he says
8:37
oh well you know you might want
to buy I
8:39
don't know I think it was just
a glitch
8:41
in the system it's yeah the
market went
8:43
up a thousand points the marked
the
8:45
trading day after he said that
do you
8:47
recall he was saying he was
pissed off
8:49
about the price of oil he'll
he's done
8:53
that a number of times well he
did heat
8:55
address this specifically in
his Rose
8:58
Garden speech now all of this
stuff is
9:01
changing now this is a fair
deal this is
9:03
a good deal for Mexico frankly
oil
9:06
companies and other companies
have an
9:09
incentive now to go to Mexico
and take
9:11
away lap and that's why we're
keeping
9:14
gasoline prices so low you look
at
9:16
what's going on with gasoline
prices
9:18
I mean it's rather incredible
if you
9:21
look back four months ago oil
hit 83
9:26
dollars
9:28
eighty-three it was heading to
a hundred
9:31
and then it could have gotten
to a
9:32
hundred and twenty-five you
want to see
9:34
problems let that happen after
I made
9:38
some phone calls to OPEC and
the OPEC
9:41
nations which is essentially a
monopoly
9:44
all of a sudden it started
coming down
9:47
I'm very happy with what's
happened and
9:50
I'm very happy that people are
paying a
9:52
lot less in many cases than $2
a gallon
9:54
for gasoline you look at what's
9:56
happening everyone's talking
about
9:57
didn't happen by luck it
happened
9:59
through talent and I believe it
in this
10:11
case I totally believe that I
believe
10:13
whatever talent he has he
pulled it
10:15
together and said I had
10:18
this whole cash OB thing let's
start by
10:20
lowering the price that's
written us
10:22
down a bit you guys are pissing
me off I
10:24
just thought was funny talent I
got it I
10:26
got to learn how to say that
myself the
10:28
show isn't just good because
it's
10:29
because talent yeah it's hard
to pull
10:32
off he does it in the way he
does it
10:34
it's like you know it's just
like
10:36
they're just like a kicker at
the end of
10:38
it at the end the end of an
Origin the
10:41
clip is a good clip it was very
very
10:48
funny did you have any wall
clips you
10:50
have anything I got a couple
related
10:53
wall clips you know it's just
the wall
10:56
was tedious more house action
so he
11:03
started he started this mmm on
brightest
11:07
Friday and did it his first ever
11:10
appearance in the briefing room
first
11:13
ever appearance in the briefing
room
11:14
ball he divided want to point
something
11:16
out this was I think I may have
a clip
11:19
about that but this was pointed
out by
11:21
every this is more important
than
11:23
anything that these these
networks and
11:25
democracy now and the rest of
them all
11:27
the same it's like all I got is
the
11:30
first appearance ever ever and
I think
11:33
he'd I don't believe that's
true but
11:35
okay let's say it is and then
they said
11:37
he just he just told the press
what he
11:39
wanted to tell him he's he
called the
11:41
briefing and he told him what
he wanted
11:43
to tell him and then he didn't
take any
11:44
questions what kind of a
briefing is
11:46
that it's a briefing all right
that was
11:51
the first appearance of
President Donald
11:55
Trump so significant for that
factor
11:58
however he also he did not take
12:00
questions I want to discuss
this with my
12:01
panelists members of this Union
the
12:04
national of national Border
Patrol
12:06
Council which endorsed him in
during the
12:08
campaign so these are current
and
12:10
retired Border Patrol agents
right these
12:12
represent Border Patrol agents
not the
12:14
Border Patrol we're and he has
them
12:18
behind him but it's just
pulling the
12:21
spotlight back to the White
House and to
12:23
his point of view but it's he
didn't
12:26
even take questions oh no it
doesn't
12:27
really explain I think if the
Democrats
12:29
can make their point and it was
12:31
there they also say they bill
kristol
12:34
this guy has fallen so low to
be sitting
12:36
on the panel discussing whether
the
12:38
president's have this we have a
12:42
continuing resolution for the
Department
12:44
of Homeland Security for a
month we will
12:45
debate the border issue
meanwhile we
12:47
have these six other agencies
of the
12:48
federal government that you are
closing
12:50
down and holding hostage and
we're
12:51
willing to pass bipartisan
12:53
appropriations bills for those
I think
12:55
it's a very hard argument for
some
12:59
consistent by not addressing it
right
13:02
and we need a wall thank you to
be clear
13:05
this is basically this is a
stunt I mean
13:07
this isn't a briefing so we
thought
13:09
there was going to write a
briefing is
13:15
questions a briefing is
questions you
13:17
heard it here first briefing is
13:21
questions why are you arguing
with Bria
13:24
Brie on don't argue with her
13:26
she's the worst a briefing is
questions
13:29
you don't even know who she is
13:32
am I wrong here's my question
regarding
13:37
this if it's Bria free if so
much of the
13:41
country is really up in arms
about this
13:43
it really really wants this
wall may or
13:46
may not be true but before you
go on
13:48
before you I want to stop and
and read
13:50
you the definition of a brief
word
13:53
briefing hmm does it include
questions
13:58
no Oh a meeting for giving
information
14:03
or instructions that's one to
the
14:06
actions of informing or
instructing
14:09
someone has nothing to do with
questions
14:12
and answers press conference
nothing
14:14
like that it's a briefing and
everybody
14:17
including that clip you have
was up in
14:20
arms about this a last minute
briefing
14:22
that that was done a briefing
right a
14:27
briefing is questions yeah no
so that's
14:32
all they could argue about is
whether it
14:34
was a briefing or not was really
14:35
interesting but I'm thinking if
people
14:38
really want this we apparently
14:42
the capability in America to
mobilize
14:44
millions of people with pussy
hats and
14:48
you know we can get people on
the
14:50
streets and they go down to DC
how come
14:51
this doesn't happen for
something as
14:53
incredibly as important as the
wall why
14:57
isn't that happening I see
that's almost
15:02
my question I mean is it only
the left
15:06
with pussy hats who can
organize is the
15:08
right that left is the ones who
go on
15:10
the streets
15:11
well why doesn't the right do
that if
15:12
it's if it's life or death
15:14
right when the right does that
as and
15:18
case in point would be the tea
party
15:20
they actually would go out into
the
15:22
street they tend to be elderly
or older
15:24
yes and there are young ones in
that
15:26
group but then they started
usually go
15:27
on the street with any sort of
signs
15:29
that are need to even reflect
mirror
15:32
reflect the kind of signage
that they
15:34
have on the left they're called
a bunch
15:37
of Nazis and that's why they
don't want
15:40
to cut it down so they can't go
do
15:42
anything hmm but the left are
then
15:45
called an anti fob by the right
and then
15:48
you can make an article those
anti far
15:52
you're right well I just think
if its
15:54
life or death people would take
to the
15:56
streets I'd hope they would but
they're
15:58
not so you just gotta wonder
right
15:59
actually do it when they're
16:01
conservatives right the old
farts and
16:04
everybody else takes to the
streets for
16:05
over something it's not gonna
be pretty
16:08
but this wall issue is is about
two
16:12
things one is just not giving
Trump what
16:14
he campaigned on that's
definitely part
16:17
of it and the other leverage
for 2020
16:20
and it's it's also leverage for
a real
16:23
immigration deal which includes
some
16:25
pathway to citizenship which the
16:27
Democrats desperately want
that's that
16:29
is that's what that's their
position and
16:31
Trump was talking about this in
his
16:33
speech he's saying look well
first of
16:36
all put more money into the
into the
16:38
regular ports of entry where
people are
16:40
overstaying their visas which I
hope
16:42
would mean an exit stamp which
is what
16:44
every country in the modern
world has
16:46
the track of people ever left
16:48
yeah and he's talking about
pathway to
16:50
citizenship I think something
much
16:52
bigger may come out of this and
I don't
16:54
know who this person is Cheri
Bustos
16:56
she's apparently congresswoman
from
16:58
Democrat for Illinois even
heard of her
17:02
I've never heard of her
17:03
well she is also the
chairperson of the
17:06
DCCC and she explains what that
is in
17:10
this clip and just listening to
her I
17:11
think there's a lot of room and
I think
17:13
they may be further down the
path than
17:15
the press wants us to know
where is the
17:17
room for a deal well the room
for a deal
17:20
is that there's got to be some
17:22
give-and-take it's I worked in
the
17:23
private sector my entire career
before
17:26
coming to Congress in fact I
was a
17:27
journalist for 20 I almost
cooked almost
17:29
20 years almost AIDS
17:30
why don't we know where if she
was a
17:32
journalist for 20 years this is
bugging
17:33
me well look looking and then
we're just
17:36
under 10 years but as you know
when
17:39
you're not on camera when
you're working
17:41
with your producers and your
17:43
photographers and all of that
you know
17:45
you got to have a little
give-and-take
17:46
and if we are unwilling to do
that we
17:50
will not improve the way this
place I'm
17:53
standing in the US Capitol
right now we
17:54
will not improve
17:56
the way Congress functions and
you know
17:58
with or up to me I would go
into a room
18:00
I'd lock the door and say we're
not
18:01
going to leash until we open up
the
18:03
government again it is not that
hard and
18:06
I think one of the point worth
making
18:07
the the wall that President
Trump has
18:11
talked about now for many years
because
18:13
this was a defining theme when
he was a
18:16
candidate it is nothing more
than a
18:19
symbol if you look at it from
this
18:21
perspective if we have a
partial wall if
18:25
we have fencing if we have
technology
18:28
used to keep our border safe
all of that
18:30
is fine but it has just become
this
18:32
symbol that the president is
not having
18:35
any give or take when it comes
to this
18:38
five billion dollars so you
said there
18:40
needs to be give-and-take and
then you
18:42
said that you are supportive or
at least
18:45
open to the idea of a partial
wall
18:46
fencing technology is that the
give here
18:50
are you willing to give some
additional
18:53
funding beyond the 1.3 billion
for a
18:56
partial wall fadna I hadn't
even heard
18:58
this 1.3 billion number yet that
19:01
Schumer's number he said that's
what
19:04
he'd be willing to give for the
wall or
19:06
fencing but none of us for the
wall it
19:08
was for border security now I
think or
19:10
technology well keep in mind
I'm not
19:12
sitting at that table doing the
19:14
negotiating I mean I'm running
the
19:15
Democratic Congressional
Campaign
19:16
Committee it means I have a
seat at the
19:18
leadership table but you have a
vote in
19:19
Congress and you are a member of
19:21
Democratic leadership and
people are you
19:22
know you've got four votes for
Speaker
19:24
and I don't mean to diminish
that people
19:25
listen here's what is this four
votes
19:27
for Speaker
19:30
fifteen members of the House
refused to
19:32
vote for Nancy Pelosi the votes
okay got
19:35
scattered around I got things
are you
19:37
saying that that is where you
believe
19:39
Democrats should give I believe
that
19:42
when we are looking at many
issues
19:43
whether it pertains to
rebuilding our
19:46
country and passing what I hope
will end
19:48
up being a trillion dollar
19:49
infrastructure package to
rebuild our
19:51
roads or bridges I roads and
bridges and
19:53
water how about that what if we
fold it
19:55
into the infrastructure bill
19:59
well sure lot of wiggle room
with a
20:01
trillion dollar mark well she's
talking
20:04
to I does she bring that up in
20:05
relationship to this in rural
broadband
20:08
or whether it has to do with
lowering
20:10
the cost of health care
including the
20:12
exorbitant prices of
prescription drugs
20:14
whatever it is what I'm saying
is we can
20:16
have a starting point that we
go in
20:19
there and we say this is
ideally what we
20:20
would like to see happen but in
the end
20:23
we might have to give or take a
little
20:24
bit it's just the way the world
works
20:27
its way the way our families
work I'm a
20:29
mother of blah blah blah
20:31
I think there's room there and
she's
20:34
signaling this yeah maybe
20:37
I'm not saying she's not Pelosi
the one
20:41
who really calls the shots
20:42
she worked at the Quad Cities
times as
20:45
the nightshift police reporter
wow
20:48
that's a gig and she actually
got a
20:50
master's in journalism from
University
20:53
of Illinois to get the gig
20:55
yeah well that in those days
I'm gonna
20:58
hold she is but in olden days
you'd get
21:00
you come out of college 57
21:03
yeah you come out of college
and you if
21:06
you had any journalism chops
whether you
21:08
were the editor of the school
paper or
21:10
you were taking journalism
courses you
21:13
get offered these sorts of gigs
around
21:15
the country when they had real
21:16
newspapers and they was always
starting
21:19
off as always a good some cop
beat you
21:23
had for the police department
and that's
21:24
it they actually kind of made
the the
21:28
reporters a little more street
savvy
21:30
because they actually know
we're out
21:32
there yeah they they get
getting some
21:34
real information yeah
21:38
those days are over oh yeah
alrighty
21:43
think we're done with the wall
I just
21:44
thought it was interesting that
you know
21:47
how'd that it just seems like
21:48
something's something's going
on this I
21:50
did I think we will get to
something
21:52
some better be going on well it
has to
21:55
yeah well they talk about this
a little
21:57
bit on democracy now let me let
me give
21:59
you an example here is a Amy
Goodman is
22:02
gonna talk about they're gonna
talk to
22:03
very detailed information about
the wall
22:07
and some of the things that
went on that
22:10
are going on in the various
22:11
administrations let's play this
this is
22:13
Amy regarding shutdown as the
government
22:17
shutdown moves into its 14th
day with
22:22
800,000 federal workers either
being
22:25
forced to work without pay or on
22:28
furlough and they won't be paid
we go
22:31
now to Capitol Hill where we're
joined
22:34
by Democrats what do you mean
not true
22:36
give everybody back pay for
being put on
22:38
furlough that's way they blood
of him
22:40
like going on furlough and then
why is
22:42
she lying to us I'm wondering
myself
22:45
because I think she knows the
the
22:47
reality of it there must be
somebody
22:49
that's that's not gonna get
paid I'm not
22:51
sure what the point of that
comment was
22:52
but and they won't be paid we
go now to
22:56
Capitol Hill where we're joined
by
22:58
Democratic Congress member Judy
Chu of
23:00
California she's the chair of
the
23:02
Congressional Asian Pacific
American
23:05
caucus Congress member Chu is
also a
23:08
member of the Committee on ways
and
23:09
means along with Democratic
Senator Jeff
23:11
Merkley of Oregon she's
introduced the
23:13
shutdown child prison camps act
a recent
23:17
piece for the Pasadena's I want
you to
23:19
get your pencil because there's
gonna be
23:21
so many details this is already
23:24
interesting the title of this
act yeah
23:27
it wasn't but you'd now you're
gonna
23:29
hear all the really important
stuff so
23:31
really start writing down notes
news his
23:33
headline shut down Trump's
child prison
23:36
camp Congress member Judy Chu
welcome to
23:40
shutdown
23:41
Trump's child prison camp is
that
23:43
seriously what I just heard
yeah all I
23:46
got to back it up for the title
of that
23:47
act he's for the Pasadena Star
News his
23:50
headline shut down Trump's
child prison
23:53
care Congress remember Judy Chu
welcome
23:55
to Democracy Now congrat
23:57
Galatians on your swearing in
yesterday
24:00
along with the most diverse
Congress and
24:03
US history your thoughts being
in that
24:05
room and the comparison of the
diversity
24:08
in color religion ethnicity
sexual
24:13
identity on the part of the
Democrats
24:15
versus the Republicans oh it
was just so
24:19
incredibly exciting to be there
with the
24:23
now majority in Congress you
could see
24:27
the stark difference just when
you
24:29
entered the room as the
proceeding
24:31
started and that is on the left
side of
24:33
the room where the Democrat sit
there
24:35
was tremendous diversity we
have a
24:38
record number of women in
Congress now
24:41
there are over a hundred women
in
24:43
Congress but most of them are
on the
24:46
Democratic side but there is
also
24:48
tremendous diversity we have the
24:50
greatest number of Latinos
African
24:53
Americans and let me also say
we have
24:55
the greatest number of Asian
Pacific
24:57
Islanders elected to Congress
now we
25:00
have gone from 18 to now 20
agen Pacific
25:03
Islander members of Congress
but it is
25:06
so exciting that we have now
the first
25:10
two Native American women in
Congress
25:13
and the first two Muslim
American women
25:17
in Congress right United Colors
of
25:19
Benetton it's beautiful hey hey
where's
25:22
this from it what are they
talking about
25:24
just sitting there patting
yourself on
25:25
the back yeah there's a bunch
of more
25:30
women these people reelected
it's not
25:33
talking about qualifications or
what any
25:35
of them are any good they
haven't even
25:36
been in office for ten minutes
but
25:38
they're just all well useless
know if
25:46
you look at how the Democratic
Party
25:48
runs and what issues they run
on its
25:50
diversity and they said we're
gonna get
25:52
make it more diverse and they
did they
25:54
didn't say they were going to
get anyone
25:55
right for the job and they may
very well
25:57
be I don't know but they said
they were
25:59
going for diversity they
delivered on
26:00
their promise let's go with
part two the
26:04
first day was to be able to
change the
26:09
rules so that we have great
26:10
transparency in Congress and it
was also
26:13
to pass bills that would end the
26:16
government shutdown on the
rules issue
26:19
yes and unfortunately since the
last few
26:23
congresses since Republicans
took over
26:24
we have had a lack of
transparency so
26:27
our whole goal was to change it
so that
26:29
for instance we could have a
bill 72
26:32
hours before it's voted upon so
we can
26:35
actually read it and
contemplate yeah
26:38
we'll hold you to that one
don't worry
26:41
this woman wasn't this Obama's
promise
26:45
when he first became president
at all
26:46
and it's gonna be everything's
gonna be
26:48
on c-span and you can read the
bills and
26:51
all the rest of it yeah that
didn't work
26:53
either
26:53
that wasn't Nancy Pelosi one
says we
26:55
gotta pass this bill so you can
read it
26:57
to see what it says yes yes
that's
26:59
correct in other words she just
fully
27:05
crapped like the rest of them
with this
27:07
nonsense
27:08
no no they put out a bill 72
hours in
27:11
advance before they even bring
it to the
27:13
floor and in fact I'll read
from it in a
27:15
minute so they did that they're
working
27:17
on it they're getting better
that we can
27:21
have an end to these conflict of
27:23
interests so for instance
members of
27:25
Congress cannot be on corporate
boards
27:28
and also so that we can have
greater
27:31
diversity amongst our members
that board
27:40
thing they're not talking about
the real
27:42
conflict of interest stuff
which is a
27:44
defect that stock trades can do
stock
27:47
trades based on what the
legislation is
27:49
gonna be in advance legally and
they
27:52
have to report it it's only but
it's
27:54
available only in the basement
of the
27:56
Library of Congress not not
kidding no
27:59
cops no copies can be made and
leave the
28:02
premises no electronic
equipment you
28:05
have to bring pencil or a great
memory a
28:09
greater - wait wait so they
they make it
28:12
they lately let that slide but
they talk
28:14
about this board member thing
knowing
28:16
full well that none of these
diversity
28:19
folk or anybody on our boards on
28:23
boards except maybe some public
you know
28:26
some Soros boards which don't
count
28:29
there tell my corporate boards
of
28:31
money-making companies so
Rossum only
28:33
applies to one half of Congress
so they
28:36
can still be on this on a board
of a big
28:39
NGO well I'm pretty sure that's
true I'm
28:43
not not looking to that that's
28:45
interesting that's interesting
28:47
if that can be shown then you
can see
28:50
that this is just a bigoted
28:52
anti-business kind of thing
let's hear
28:54
the word diverse guys should be
on
28:57
boards of corporations of
course not but
29:00
if you're gonna start limiting
things
29:01
you're better limited evenly yes
29:04
get some diversity we can have
greater
29:07
diversity amongst our members
allowing
29:13
religious headgear on the board
so those
29:16
were our rules never religious
headgear
29:20
always reminds me of the braces
I had
29:22
with the headgear my hat I
hated those
29:25
things had had wear him to
school had to
29:28
do three notches on the right
two
29:29
notches on the Left that's
headgear on
29:32
the floor so those were our
rules
29:34
packages but the most important
thing
29:37
was that we do not continue the
29:38
suffering of these federal
workers these
29:41
800,000 federal workers who
either will
29:44
not be paid or will be paid
later and do
29:48
not have a paycheck now you
want to hear
29:50
the bit from the bill that they
brought
29:52
out before they bring it to the
floor
29:53
the 72-hour bill yeah it's from
sarbanes
29:57
put it in yo sarbanes from
29:58
sarbanes-oxley sarbanes-oxley
one of the
30:03
worst laws in effect ever
episode he put
30:07
out the for the people act of
2019
30:11
producer Todd caught this and
pulled out
30:13
a couple of things this is to
you know
30:17
more transparency rectify the
elections
30:19
get our elected lecture system
in order
30:21
and a couple of points page 39
30:25
the voting age shall be lowered
to 16
30:28
makes sense
30:31
any citizen will be able to
request a
30:33
MyVoice voucher worth $25 so
this is a
30:36
voucher you get to even out
money in
30:38
politics and you can spend that
25 it's
30:41
federal money you can spend
that $25 on
30:44
any party or individual you want
30:47
colleges can automatically
register
30:49
students to vote but are not
required to
30:52
ask if they are US citizens
according to
30:54
the bill there's a number of
triggers
30:57
for automatic voter registration
30:59
non-citizens who are registered
to vote
31:01
cannot be charged with the
crime unless
31:02
they knew they were violating
the crime
31:04
Sosa get out of jail free card
there
31:08
within six months of an
election people
31:10
cannot use the cross state
registration
31:12
database to find people who are
31:13
registered to vote in more than
one
31:15
state because that's voter
suppression
31:20
that's a Republican tactic you
see to
31:23
find corruption is it is is
right-wing
31:26
craziness oh my god that's a
that's
31:30
unbelievable voting rights will
be
31:32
restored to convicted criminals
as long
31:34
as they are not in jail on
Election Day
31:36
and all states must allow early
voting
31:39
and polling locations must be
moved
31:41
within walking distance of bus
stops
31:45
let's back up
31:48
this is in that bill that's
supposed to
31:50
yeah the for the people act for
the
31:54
people act
31:57
it's pretty good right
31:59
yeah it's a scam as usual yeah
slipping
32:03
one by but right what so what
does the
32:06
media say about this they must
have read
32:08
this over and said this notice
these
32:10
these anomalies uh yeah I have
a clip
32:12
right here if you know what I
mean of
32:20
course they don't say anything
about
32:21
that come on you know the
answers it's
32:25
just it's just shameless thank
you thank
32:32
you our thanks to our producer
for yeah
32:33
digging this out that's what we
do on
32:35
this show yeah and put the I
put the
32:36
whole PDF in the show notes any
show
32:39
notes calm you can go find it
there but
32:41
it's pro oh by the way from the
future
32:44
time for if we can just deviate
or do
32:46
you have more on the diversity
diversity
32:50
buddy got diversity or on the
20/20 no
32:54
do one we see five again 2020
hold on
32:57
before we do anything yes
33:02
so who do we still have running
the
33:04
three B's
33:06
Beto Biden and bingo who's a
third be
33:10
that oh by Bernie Bernie
33:14
we have Kamala Harris and I
think that
33:17
CNN has really decided to cut
Biden out
33:20
of the three B's and is and
they brought
33:23
in Sally cone everybody's
favorite to uh
33:27
to take him down and let
everyone know
33:29
that yeah Sally cone besides
being a
33:31
journalist I think she's good
33:33
although incredibly biased you
know I
33:36
think she has ties to the
Democrats that
33:39
are deeper than the surface may
show I
33:41
always think she has inside
info so
33:43
here's Sally :
33:45
let's turn the page and I know
it's so
33:47
early but Senator Dianne
Feinstein says
33:52
she would back Joe Biden if he
ran in
33:55
2020 of you guys heard this and
not only
33:57
is it interesting Sally to you
that
34:00
she'd say something like this
so early
34:03
but also just keeping in mind
senator
34:05
Kamala Harris is her fellow
California
34:07
senator what do you think I
mean good
34:11
honor I have to respectfully
disagree
34:15
look when someone says I want to
34:19
respectfully disagree what do
they say
34:22
that
34:24
oh well that's a good question
to
34:27
analyze because people say it a
lot
34:29
listen I I just respectfully I
disagree
34:31
I think it's haughty it's I
think it has
34:36
bad connotations I think it
means you
34:39
you think the person is full of
shit
34:41
yeah you don't want to say it
like hey
34:44
you're so stupid you're so
wrong I'm
34:47
gonna tell you how it is I
think you're
34:48
right that's kind of that's
kind of what
34:49
it means another one good on
her good on
34:56
her is that even mean you know
I'm
34:59
hearing having haven't grown up
in
35:02
Europe growing up with the
Germanic
35:03
languages I'm hearing descent
and
35:06
sentence structure certainly
between
35:07
Dutch or German and English
everything
35:09
is reversed so instead of
saying what do
35:12
you say you literally say what
say you
35:15
and I'm hearing this coming up
now what
35:17
say you in something in certain
35:19
circumstances people use this
and to say
35:21
good on you it's good for y'all
you know
35:25
it's like a Germanic thing
that's coming
35:27
in it's very odd to me where I
hear
35:29
these sentence structures that
are
35:30
different from the traditional
English
35:32
usage
35:36
good on you good on her good on
her if
35:39
you don't say it with the right
intent
35:41
intonation sounds stupid like
oh well
35:43
good on her yeah that sounds
nasty yeah
35:47
it doesn't sound right
35:49
I mean good honor have to
respectfully
35:55
disagree look I think it's the
prelude
35:57
to fu has name recognition
people like
36:02
him and in fairness he's the
most sort
36:05
of populist seeming of a long
legacy of
36:09
centrist corporate Democrats
right he
36:11
talked - he's from Scranton he
talks
36:13
about that all the time and so
he sort
36:15
of seemed like the most popular
bearing
36:19
in mind he's from the great
banking
36:20
state of Delaware but but he
kind of he
36:23
earned that reputation but in
fairness
36:26
the country yeah corporate
centrist
36:30
Democrats but certainly in this
moment
36:32
that is so tone-deaf and out of
step not
36:36
only was what the country needs
but with
36:38
what the American people across
the
36:40
aisle what and and it turns out
we're a
36:44
fundamentally more progressive
inclusive
36:48
populist country that wants
things like
36:52
higher taxes on the rich
climate change
36:56
and corporations and big
business to be
36:58
held accountable and we need
Democratic
37:00
candidates who I don't know
actually
37:02
sided with the majority of
Americans not
37:04
to mention the majority of
Democrats as
37:06
opposed to siding with big
business in
37:08
Wall Street
37:09
Uncle Joe just got shoved in
The Wall
37:12
Street way to go south she had
Hillary
37:17
she's there already - yeah she
runs a
37:19
think-tank that she found it
Sally she's
37:22
only sometimes a commentator
37:26
only a stooge for the Democrats
yeah
37:29
she's Democrats now she
mentioned the
37:32
higher taxes and I'm gonna
bring it
37:34
right back to what I said
earlier
37:36
AOC who I and I'm sorry have
the AOC
37:40
clip yeah I have it too okay
let me see
37:44
how long has your clip yours is
oh you
37:48
have 142 we're going with your
clip your
37:50
talk about zero carbon
emissions no use
37:53
of fossil fuels within 12 years
that is
37:56
the goal its ambitious yeah I
know that
37:59
posture of everybody happening
to drive
38:00
an electric car it's going to
require a
38:04
lot of rapid change that we
don't even
38:07
conceive as possible right now
what is
38:10
the problem with trying to push
our
38:14
technological capacities to the
farthest
38:18
extent possible this would
require
38:19
though raising taxes there's an
element
38:21
where yeah there people are
gonna have
38:23
to start paying their fair
share in
38:25
taxes tax rate you know you
look at our
38:28
tax rates back in the 60s and
when you
38:31
have a progressive tax rate
system your
38:34
tax rate you know let's say
from zero to
38:38
$75,000 may have been 10% or
15% etc but
38:43
once you get to like the tippy
tops on
38:46
your 10 millionth dollar
38:48
sometimes you see tax rates as
high as
38:50
60 or 70% that doesn't mean all
10
38:53
million dollars or taxed an
extremely
38:56
high rate but it means that as
you climb
38:57
up this ladder you should be
39:00
contributing more what you are
talking
39:03
about this big picture is a
radical
39:05
agenda compared to the way
politics is
39:08
done right now well I think
that it only
39:12
has ever been radicals that
have changed
39:15
this country Abraham Lincoln
was a
39:17
radical decision to sign the
39:18
Emancipation Proclamation
Franklin
39:21
Delano Roosevelt made the
radical
39:23
decision to embark on
establishing
39:26
programs like Social Security
that is
39:28
radical do you call yourself a
radical
39:30
yeah you know if that's what
radical
39:32
means call me a radical I
really like
39:36
this girl she is going places I
know you
39:38
think
39:38
it's to me I don't like her in
the least
39:41
I think she's I do think she's
stupid
39:44
and she's an idealist and a
goofball
39:50
I think she's something of a
goofball I
39:51
just do not see what you see I
know what
39:54
you're thinking did he shoot
six shots
39:57
or only five oh I'm sorry no
it's
39:59
different no I'm going on
record as Pro
40:05
AOC I think she could do things
that I
40:07
like listen here's I have some
things to
40:11
say about this first of all what
40:13
happened to the actual green
New Deal
40:16
black-on-white her own paper
says we're
40:19
going to print the money
40:19
I hope we're gonna print the
money for
40:21
this green New Deal which we
only have
40:23
12 years to do really only ten
before we
40:26
die children know it that you
ask any
40:28
child particularly if they just
got into
40:31
college was happening with with
climate
40:32
change we're gonna die
40:33
so let's just bear that in mind
children
40:36
believe this she believes this
I think I
40:38
think so she said it was going
to be
40:41
done by printing up money just
the way
40:43
we did the bailout in 2008 so
she's
40:45
changed
40:45
this is the question pooper
should have
40:47
asked instead she brings up a
40:50
progressive tax system which
we've had
40:52
all my life and yes is even
today if you
40:56
make X amount you pay only so
much over
40:58
the first $25,000 50,000
41:02
and you get into the tippy-top
as she
41:04
calls it at iffy job which is
Scott
41:07
Adams would say persuasive gets
into the
41:10
tippy-top
41:11
and that's where you may wind
up paying
41:13
more and I went back and I
looked
41:15
throughout the 50s the 60s and
the 70s
41:17
up until 1981 the tippy top tax
rate in
41:21
United States was over 70%
Tesla it was
41:25
it's not it's not crazy but go
back into
41:30
that era and the tippy top top
tax rate
41:33
at 71 percent did exist but
there were a
41:37
million ways to lower your tax
liability
41:41
through all kinds of R&D deals
and
41:44
there's certain kinds of
investments and
41:46
write-offs this way and
write-offs that
41:48
way and very few people that
made that
41:51
kind of money
41:52
they made the 10 million plus a
year
41:54
ever paid those tax rates
because they
41:56
had been putting the money here
and
41:59
putting the money there these
were
41:59
called the loopholes that were
closed
42:01
and once they started closing
the
42:03
loopholes and they had to start
lowering
42:05
the tax rates because it was a
it was a
42:07
one to one ratio so this is
really
42:11
misconstrued this is a specious
42:15
commentary that she's making
it's
42:17
bullshit that may be true I'd
the only
42:23
thing I'm saying is it's not
crazy to
42:26
have that upper tax rate in a
42:28
progressive system and people
shouldn't
42:30
immediately be uh however a more
42:35
importantly if that's all it
would take
42:37
to get the green New Deal going
to save
42:40
our lives
42:41
I expect every person who is a
42:44
democratic voter or a democratic
42:46
operative or politician to
agree to this
42:49
idea to save the world
42:54
I bet we won't but it's not
it's I'd
42:57
like people like Nancy Pelosi
and the
43:01
real movers and shakers in the
party buy
43:05
into any of the we're all gonna
die
43:08
nonsense no but of course but
that's how
43:11
I can make my point if they
don't buy
43:13
into it if they don't say hey
you know
43:15
okay make it 60% make it an
even 50 what
43:19
whatever you gonna do that's
the way we
43:22
typically do things with
raising money
43:23
if it truly is the most
important thing
43:26
in the world because we're all
going to
43:28
die then they should all be
pushing for
43:30
it they won't because it's not
true
43:32
we're not going to die my point
is about
43:35
the science of climate change
and the
43:37
hood that's been pulled over
everybody's
43:39
eyes
43:41
so how'd everybody know but the
people
43:43
who are advocating for those
suckers the
43:45
people who are advocating for
the we're
43:47
all gonna die climate change
don't deny
43:49
Sciences in they should be all
in on at
43:52
least this idea I agree and I
think a
43:54
lot of them are we'll see I bet
not a
43:59
single one of them supports
this idea
44:02
not a single one a single one
of who is
44:05
at Congress members yes the
Democrats
44:08
who say we're going to die from
climate
44:09
change them yes oh well maybe
by the way
44:14
this think there's more than a
single I
44:15
think there's a few this was all
44:17
predicted the newbies that just
came in
44:18
did you see the the article
that now you
44:21
know the orbit of the the earth
is
44:23
changing slightly and therefore
and
44:27
that's not therefore climate
change you
44:29
know it it may end by itself or
not oh
44:31
they're looking for the out to
look for
44:33
the exit strategy for the
bullish listen
44:36
so this this actually appeared
in 1961
44:41
November 17th in an episode of
The
44:44
Twilight Zone
44:46
the word that mrs. Bronson is
unable to
44:48
put into the hot still sudden
air is
44:50
doomed because the people
you've just
44:52
seen have been handed a death
sentence
44:54
one month ago the earth
suddenly changed
44:56
its elliptical orbit and in
doing so
44:58
began to follow a path which
gradually
45:00
moment by moment day by day
took it
45:02
closer to the Sun
45:04
and all of man's little devices
to stir
45:06
up the air and now no longer
luxuries
45:08
they happen to be pitiful and
panicky
45:10
keys to survival the time is 5
minutes
45:13
to 12 midnight there is no more
darkness
45:16
the place is New York City and
this is
45:18
the eve of the end because even
at
45:20
midnight it's High Noon
45:22
the hottest day in history and
you're
45:25
about to spend it in the
twilight zone
45:28
so that's the setup but in the
show
45:30
itself this is what happens
there was a
45:33
scientist on the radio this
morning he
45:35
was trying to explain what
happened how
45:37
the earth had changed its orbit
and was
45:39
starting to move away from the
Sun and
45:41
that was in 1 2 or maybe 3
weeks at the
45:44
most
45:44
there wouldn't be any more Sun
we'd all
45:47
freeze nothing ever changes
remember
45:55
that episode it's pretty funny
you
45:57
remember oh that's great let's
go back
45:59
to 1988 for the upcoming
election hold
46:02
on 1988 hello John oh yeah I
was having
46:09
trouble with my Segway obvious
yes yes
46:11
it ran off a hill gore is
running he's
46:16
one of the main candidates this
is the
46:19
the election against the George
HW Bush
46:23
the first time he after right
after
46:24
Reagan's eight years and so we
have a
46:27
few things here including let's
just
46:30
play these two gore clips from
1988 just
46:33
pre-election so just before the
election
46:35
when he was one of the five
candidates
46:37
Dukakis won this thing he
didn't but he
46:40
had a few things to say that
he's kind
46:41
of stuck with but I see that
he's kind
46:43
of edited down his complaints
let's
46:46
start with gore free on the
other five
46:50
candidates in the race and
later in the
46:53
campaign I'll be doing the same
thing on
46:55
on domestication it's a cool
way to
46:57
different you've heard these
guys and we
46:59
all have for about six months
you know
47:00
what you believe for the last
ten years
47:01
so where do you think the
differences
47:03
are gonna be education social
well I
47:05
think there gonna be some
differences
47:07
in education in in in this in
47:15
Environmental Protection and in
a number
47:19
of other issue areas I'm the
only
47:21
candidate to talking about the
need for
47:24
a completely new approach to
47:26
environmental protection as an
example
47:29
I'm chairman of the largest
47:30
environmental protection group
in the
47:32
Congress I chaired the first
hearings
47:35
ever held on the problem of
hazardous
47:37
chemical waste and pollution of
47:40
groundwater some ten years ago
I was one
47:43
of the principal authors of the
47:46
Superfund law I've been active
in issues
47:50
from clean air and clean water
to
47:51
protection of the upper
atmosphere and
47:53
the rain forests and ocean
pollution
47:56
management of public lands and
the
48:00
positions I've articulated I'll
give you
48:03
an example did you see at any
point
48:05
mentioned that he invented the
internet
48:07
the internet later oh when I
announced
48:12
my candidacy I talked about the
threat
48:15
to the ozone layer among many
many other
48:18
issues and some of the other
campaigns
48:21
said sort of hooted at that and
said
48:25
this is really a kind of an
unusual
48:29
issue that the voters will not
respond
48:32
to I find a tremendous response
from the
48:35
voters I find Americans all
over this
48:38
country actively concerned
about the
48:42
impact of our civilization on
the global
48:44
environment and the next
president must
48:47
not only understand that impact
but must
48:50
be prepared to offer strong
innovative
48:53
leadership nationally and
48:55
internationally to stop that
damage the
48:58
recent treaty incidentally on
the ozone
49:02
depletion accomplishes a 35%
reduction
49:06
in in in the production of these
49:10
chemicals called
chlorofluorocarbons or
49:13
CFCs and yet the
49:15
evidence shows that there must
be an 85%
49:19
reduction just to stabilize the
amount
49:22
of damage being done in other
words
49:25
under this treaty the damage
will not
49:27
only continue it will
accelerate fairly
49:30
dramatically throughout the
balance of
49:31
this century that's
unacceptable now
49:34
there may be some market
developments
49:36
that have helped us deal with
the
49:38
problem in the treaty may
accelerate
49:40
those market trends
49:42
well this is his whole thesis
word for
49:46
been running for anything is to
scare
49:48
the crap out of the public have
these
49:50
assertions like we would like
by the
49:52
year 2000 apparently according
to him
49:54
there were the whole was gonna
get
49:55
bigger when it got smaller and
all this
49:58
sort of thing but the next one
which is
50:00
the second clip has an
assertion with an
50:02
actual time and date no date
that it
50:06
should be noted yes okay yeah
because
50:10
it's it's he says it and I do
the
50:13
calculation and I didn't happen
but but
50:16
there are many other challenges
climate
50:18
change is an issue that again
wow this
50:20
is is out in front of the
domestic
50:23
consensus on what the agenda of
the next
50:26
president ought to be but the
next
50:28
president needs to provide
leadership
50:30
there as well destruction of the
50:32
rainforests we're losing
rainforests in
50:34
the world today at at the rate
of one
50:37
Tennessee's worth every year an
amount
50:40
of land equivalent to the size
of the
50:43
state of Tennessee every single
year by
50:44
the year 2010 it'll all be gone
it's
50:51
gone gone it's gone is it gone
50:54
did you check yeah I did she's
gone it's
50:57
not gone mine looks as if
there's not
51:00
even close to being gone just
they you
51:03
can look at you know rain
forests and
51:06
the Wikipedian you can see them
all
51:08
they're still there it's just
not done
51:09
but going to him it's not ever
gonna be
51:11
gone by 2010 alright let's come
back a
51:20
couple of things we've talked
about that
51:21
are coming that are coming true
51:25
yes that are panning out a
while back we
51:28
identified that the excessive
use of
51:31
cuss words amongst leftist
liberals
51:34
Democrats was increasing
51:38
and this increased signal
something to
51:40
me it signaled a severe
frustration and
51:43
I said it's only going to get
worse
51:45
you're hearing it on podcast
everywhere
51:47
people who would never use any
kind of
51:49
profanity are using the f-word
51:52
excessively now I have
Tourette's so you
51:54
got to give me a little slack
you
51:56
actually give you some you use
the S
51:59
word today you rarely even do
that now
52:01
they're saying that was the BS
word I'm
52:03
not even saying that you're a
leftist
52:05
but it came it came true I mean
it is
52:08
they are this is a break in the
52:10
psychology in the psyche of
people who
52:14
typically are left but who hate
Trump
52:17
people love you you one bullies
don't
52:24
win baby they talk because
we're gonna
52:26
go in there and impeach the
motherfucker
52:37
this is just getting worse this
was an
52:41
example but I think a lot of it
has to
52:43
do with education to people
that are
52:45
typical truck drivers who
wouldn't
52:47
really know this woman's not a
truck
52:51
driver you Larry that's big
enough to
52:52
handle just not using F what
this
52:56
woman's not a truck driver and
by the
52:57
way truck drivers aren't stupid
they
52:59
have vocabulary no but they
don't date a
53:01
lot of truck drivers getting
just a
53:03
milieu I'm sorry okay he was
all right
53:05
that's more fair yes the milieu
of truck
53:07
have certain working classes is
involves
53:11
a lot of cussing the this woman
to me is
53:16
this is a important especially
the way
53:21
it was handled this is an
important
53:22
situation because this can't be
53:26
tolerated by Nancy Pelosi
exactly she
53:30
and if she can't control these
new
53:31
people that are coming in there
she's
53:33
gonna have to take him one by
one she's
53:36
gonna have a mess on her hands
I feel a
53:39
dirt I'm sorry I think I think
it's
53:41
already done they brought in
all the
53:43
diversity and that's the mess
53:45
yet diversity is the mess yeah
whether
53:48
Nancy can organize it at her
age not to
53:52
be an ageist an already
insulted our
53:55
truck drivers I don't think she
can do
53:59
it I think the whole Democrat
party is
54:00
gonna fall apart it's gonna be
it's
54:02
gonna be an embarrassment as
the those
54:04
key sorts of things that that
woman did
54:05
she's the new she's a Muslim by
the way
54:08
mm-hmm
54:09
from Michigan I think she's the
Michigan
54:12
woman Shh that is going to
really turn
54:15
off the American public insofar
as
54:18
Democrats are concerned I agree
you're
54:21
right I think it is signaling
something
54:22
that's a much bigger problem
totally
54:26
agree
54:27
I have a clip well here it is
this is
54:32
diversity and Pelosi regains
gavel this
54:36
up from Democracy Now that
discusses a
54:38
little bit of this incoming
members of
54:40
the hundred sixteenth Congress
made
54:42
history Thursday is the most
diverse
54:44
group of lawmakers ever sworn
in over a
54:48
hundred women now serve in the
house
54:50
along with the most LGBTQ black
and
54:53
Latino members in history
meanwhile
54:56
Democratic Congress member
Nancy Pelosi
54:58
of California was officially
elected
55:00
Speaker of the House again
regaining the
55:03
gavel she lost after the 2010
midterm
55:06
elections brought eight years of
55:08
Republican control to the house
nation
55:11
is an historic moment two
months ago the
55:14
American people spoke and
demanded a new
55:17
dawn upon the beauty of our
Constitution
55:21
our system of checks and
balances that
55:24
protects our democracy
55:26
remembering that the
legislative branch
55:29
is article 1 the first branch of
55:32
government co-equal to the
presidency 15
55:38
Democrats including some
freshman
55:40
lawmakers defected against
Pelosi
55:42
speakership either voting for an
55:44
alternative candidate or simply
voting
55:46
present as a first order of
business
55:48
house Speaker Pelosi and House
55:50
Democratic leaders sought to
end the
55:52
partial government shutdown
passing a
55:54
package of spending bills that
would
55:56
reopen the federal government
without
55:58
meeting Trump's demand for five
billion
56:00
dollars for expanding the wall
on the
56:02
us-mexico border
56:07
so Pelosi's got this she has
some
56:09
defectors which is she punished
those 15
56:13
but she's also gonna punish the
few that
56:15
threatened to not vote for it
but did
56:20
they voted for anyway but
they're
56:22
sterile marked all beyond the
you know
56:24
the barbers committee for sewage
56:26
treatment and marked and these
were some
56:29
of the words you know farm
animals she
56:32
was that she was also kind of
washing
56:35
her words her bitch like I
think she's
56:37
got denture sound like she does
thank
56:42
you for your refit befitting yes
56:51
retooling maybe I got a double
up on you
56:54
listen to tell me if you can
spot the
56:55
aim the ami hey this is
actually a
56:57
double flub okay see if you can
spot
57:00
both of them this is about the
Google
57:01
story where you know Google
apparently
57:03
is dodging taxes big shocker no
but
57:07
listen the Seabees find the two
double
57:10
flubs and they're not
necessarily
57:12
mispronouncing things it's what
she says
57:15
newly revealed tax filings show
Google
57:17
shifted 23 billion dollars to
accounts
57:20
in Bermuda in 2017 as part of a
complex
57:23
tax avoidance scheme that saved
the tech
57:25
giant billions of dollars in
revenue the
57:28
scheme involved funneling money
through
57:29
Google Ireland holdings and a
Dutch
57:32
shell company based in Bermuda
where
57:34
corporations pay no income tax
the
57:37
scheme known as the double
Irish Dutch
57:38
sandwich is legal although
Ireland's
57:41
government has said it will
close a
57:42
loophole allowing the
arrangement in
57:44
2020 okay first of all is the
double
57:47
dutch is never a double Irish
that's
57:50
just stupidity and I think she
also said
57:52
it would save the millions in
revenue
57:54
which is not yes it was mistake
number
57:56
one yeah it's not true billions
in taxes
57:59
yes but not on revenues
revenues or
58:02
whatever we revenues our
revenues it
58:04
doesn't save you any revenue
there's a
58:05
Dutch just that wrong the Dutch
just
58:07
called they want their their
other part
58:09
back don't play the second one
in there
58:12
and I forget oh really besides
that
58:14
there's one o newly revealed
tax filings
58:16
show Google shifted 23 billion
dollars
58:19
to accounts and
58:19
muda in 2017 as part of a
complex tax
58:23
avoidance scheme that saved the
tech
58:25
giant billions of dollars in
revenue the
58:27
scheme involved funneling money
through
58:29
Google Ireland holdings and a
Dutch
58:31
shell company based in Bermuda
where
58:34
corporations pay no income tax
the
58:36
scheme known as the double
Irish Dutch
58:38
sandwich is legal although
Ireland's
58:40
government has said it will
close a
58:42
loophole allowing the
arrangement in
58:44
2020 allowing the arrangement
58:47
yeah weird now I just can't
lift out the
58:51
second one okay anyway I have
something
58:55
much I have something much more
58:56
important from the future we
are huh of
59:00
course wherever Ebola shows up
we always
59:03
expect the US military to
follow now you
59:07
wouldn't know it from the
American news
59:09
or if you dare I say even any
news in
59:12
the Western in the Western
world now but
59:15
if we go to Africa today the
United
59:18
States has deployed so just to
Kabul on
59:20
in anticipation of possible
violent
59:23
demonstrations that Democratic
Republic
59:25
of Congo after its presidential
election
59:27
u.s. president Donald Trump told
59:29
Congress on Friday the first
batch of
59:32
about 80 military personnel
arrived in
59:35
Gabon on Wednesday their
mission will be
59:38
to protect US citizens and
diplomatic
59:40
facilities should avail as
break out in
59:43
DLCs capital Kinshasa Trump said
59:46
additional forces may be
deployed to
59:49
Gabon
59:50
if necessary no notice no
mention of
59:52
Ebola is completely off the map
we don't
59:54
care we got what we needed a we
get them
59:56
in one way or the other troops
in the
1:00:00
DRC
1:00:01
just a matter of time but how'd
you get
1:00:04
dead that was a good clip oh it
well
1:00:07
Reuters actually reported on it
they did
1:00:09
do a news release about the US
troops
1:00:13
being deployed but it wasn't it
was not
1:00:15
mention I need I was looking
for a clip
1:00:17
and this is all I could find I
found a
1:00:18
million clips with some shit
music and
1:00:21
titles you know those those are
the
1:00:23
worst
1:00:23
I'll go assemble pieces of crap
you're
1:00:26
like oh I got a cliff no I
don't so yeah
1:00:29
and then I just went back to
the well
1:00:31
off the riccati fact at the
mainstream
1:00:34
news media including the CNN
and MSNBC s
1:00:37
of the world spent all this
time about
1:00:40
this briefing the definition of
briefing
1:00:42
instead of some idealist
stories like
1:00:45
this just slide who cares
that's why
1:00:48
we're going to be great this
year
1:00:50
what you think it's gonna get
worse oh
1:00:52
the the the mainstream news CNN
MSNBC
1:00:55
Fox all three of them are going
to do
1:00:58
20/20 all day all night long it
will be
1:01:01
nothing else that it's decided
that
1:01:05
they're doing it it's like the
mh17 it's
1:01:07
they're just gonna go it's only
you know
1:01:09
it's only two years they don't
care you
1:01:13
might be right I'd hate to see
it
1:01:15
because the public doesn't care
about
1:01:19
20/20 they won't care about
20/20 until
1:01:22
2020 what you're seeing is a
total
1:01:25
withdrawal you're seeing
withdrawal
1:01:27
people just not interested
anymore
1:01:29
they're turning off the
television it's
1:01:30
just it's only going to go
downhill to
1:01:34
predict this one easy so you
know now
1:01:38
for us we're just gonna
deconstruct
1:01:40
other new sources you know
still if you
1:01:42
go to RTE or Sky News you get
different
1:01:44
things at least get something
from a
1:01:46
different country that seems to
be
1:01:47
casually looking at CBC this
week we
1:01:51
need to take a break though
before we go
1:01:53
into another another segment
okay but
1:01:57
we'll be doing CBC News after I
thank
1:01:59
you for your courage and say in
the
1:02:00
morning to you John
1:02:05
in the morning to you mr. Adam
curry
1:02:08
also in the morning to all the
boots on
1:02:10
the ground the feet in the air
the
1:02:11
substance of all the Dames of
the nights
1:02:12
out there in the morning to the
troll
1:02:14
room you can find them and join
their
1:02:16
legions of trolls at No Agenda
stream
1:02:19
dot-com and it's good to see
everybody
1:02:21
there Aloha nice to see you've
got your
1:02:24
troll poles also in the morning
1:02:26
Darren O'Neill he brought us
the artwork
1:02:27
the album artwork for episode
1100 this
1:02:30
was the flash beat up which we
need to
1:02:32
hear about and he had just a
nice piece
1:02:36
of the tachometer or
speedometer it had
1:02:39
33 is the only indicator and
1100 on
1:02:43
what would maybe be the
odometer it was
1:02:44
just a nice piece particularly
because
1:02:47
it was our 1100 episode and we
thank
1:02:50
Darren and everyone who
submitted
1:02:51
artwork and continued to do as
a part of
1:02:53
our value for value system
where you
1:02:56
give back the value that you
get out of
1:02:58
it and for a lot of people they
put in
1:03:00
their artistry and we
appreciate what
1:03:02
they do no agenda art generate
1:03:03
calm thank you again Darren
O'Neill
1:03:07
we have a funny situation here
that I'd
1:03:09
not absolute that I haven't
straightened
1:03:11
it out oh but there's there's a
Sir
1:03:14
Scott and there's a serve
Richard okay
1:03:17
and and I don't believe that
this is
1:03:20
this may or may not be the same
person
1:03:22
but neither one of them wants
to be
1:03:25
mentioned to set their name so
Scott or
1:03:27
Sir Richard allegiances for
Richard on
1:03:30
the note
1:03:32
and that both of the numbers
were a
1:03:35
one-two-three four-five-six
1:03:37
well I don't see you sir Scott
on the
1:03:38
list well sir Scott someone
I've been
1:03:40
going back and forth with
because of
1:03:42
this this okay so I've got you
sound
1:03:46
throttling what you sound
troubled I am
1:03:51
troubled the
1:03:52
cuz I have not be able to
figure out why
1:03:53
let me go get the know hold on
a second
1:03:55
okay play a little rambling
scroll male
1:04:00
music okay rambling
squirrelmail music I
1:04:05
don't know how to do that man I
need to
1:04:09
make that easier to find ya
1:04:17
here we go
1:04:23
will he find it he's looking
for the
1:04:27
donation now run it over to the
printer
1:04:31
back already
1:04:32
I gotta do the whole song took
you
1:04:35
longer to get it then it took
me to get
1:04:36
this note okay so this donation
is to
1:04:41
say thank you for the fine
product you
1:04:42
deliver twice a week for myself
as some
1:04:44
simple jobs karma the original
pelosi
1:04:47
no-trump Sir Richard and it's
one two
1:04:51
three four five six yet
1:04:56
Scott Scott sir Scott head sent
in one
1:05:02
two three four five six
1:05:06
and it was its it can only
match the
1:05:09
same exact check but
1:05:13
I really have no idea what
you're
1:05:15
talking here's the real problem
I'm
1:05:18
gonna have the fuck to do some
more
1:05:19
emailing oh I see okay now
thank you
1:05:27
what is happening I get it now
1:05:29
sir Scott who is a sir wanted
to be
1:05:33
called Sir Richard initially
but then
1:05:36
when we went back forth of the
email
1:05:37
because this check was a week
late oh he
1:05:41
forgot about that part because
he wanted
1:05:42
to be super anonymous so he
became now
1:05:45
he's two guys that's pretty
anonymous
1:05:48
yeah okay okay I got it cuz
it's the
1:05:50
same that I'm saying that it's
the same
1:05:52
guy Scott and Richard because
they're
1:05:55
both in Louisville Kentucky you
weren't
1:05:56
given you weren't listening to
you are
1:05:58
listening to Rihanna again were
you know
1:06:01
I should have been maybe that's
the
1:06:02
problem
1:06:04
shows a box for me but anyway
let's go
1:06:08
on and then we want to thank
sir Scott
1:06:11
Richard for his Scott a Richard
it's a
1:06:15
good name
1:06:16
show business name he just
wanted a job
1:06:18
Nancy jobs jobs jobs jobs and
jobs let's
1:06:24
vote job karma okay well at
least we
1:06:30
figured it out yeah sure
1:06:32
all right so we onward but
that's it
1:06:34
that's our executive producer
1:06:36
oh and luckily he came in at
all well
1:06:39
but it's nice we appreciate
that sir
1:06:41
Scott Richard thing and such
sure
1:06:44
Richard Scott and for Richard
sky what a
1:06:46
great name Sir Richard Scott
and such
1:06:49
that's his new name Sir Richard
Scott
1:06:51
and yes Robert Warner in
Chicago two
1:06:55
three five three five and I
look for a
1:06:58
note no no I don't have one
either
1:07:00
Jim Watts - 33 33 this is a
test of the
1:07:04
no agenda karma system world
cup lose
1:07:09
racing karma needed for human
resource
1:07:11
number and okay normally we do
not do
1:07:13
sports
1:07:14
Carmelita karmas but since it's
a
1:07:17
relative it's a human resource
number
1:07:19
one
1:07:21
you give it a shot so this is
so Jim's
1:07:25
human resource number one is a
World Cup
1:07:29
luge racer yeah top that any
other
1:07:37
podcast is what I mean who else
has
1:07:42
World Cup lose racers
participating in
1:07:46
our program no zero is that
falls under
1:07:49
the jobs banner dealer's choice
karma
1:07:52
please do you think we should
make that
1:07:55
a jobs karma I think it is a I
think I
1:08:00
think we're gonna go for the
job karma
1:08:02
for human resource number one
let's give
1:08:03
it a shot jobs jobs jobs and
jobs let's
1:08:08
vote for job
1:08:11
karma all right well let us
know how
1:08:14
that goes Jim very curious now
again
1:08:17
this is not something we
encourage and I
1:08:21
think for relatives and in
looking at it
1:08:24
from the jobs perspective I do
think
1:08:27
it's it's possible that that
this is on
1:08:29
the up-and-up you do think I do
think
1:08:41
further humiliating me oh come
on it's
1:08:44
just a show
1:08:45
ah great okay Jay Sir Geoffrey
meter now
1:08:50
this is another note no note I
got a
1:08:52
Jeffrey guy with this with his
1:08:53
accounting but it's not this
Jeffrey
1:08:58
this is Jeffrey do fields let
me look up
1:09:01
fields I'm not gonna do that
whole
1:09:05
squirrel mail I have nothing
from mr.
1:09:09
fields mr. field WC Fields no I
have
1:09:12
nothing from him I have Ellison
fields
1:09:16
Anthony Tom no no I get not
even close
1:09:20
so we got nothing but so that's
we got
1:09:24
him as an associate executive
producer
1:09:26
with $200 let's combine our
missing
1:09:29
Robert Warner and Jeffrey
fields and
1:09:32
give them a joint Karma did you
got it
1:09:35
you've got Karma pretty much
okay all
1:09:41
right well this is our value
for value
1:09:44
system and the way and we make
it work
1:09:46
in a number of ways first of
all is we
1:09:48
know how the the network cannot
be
1:09:50
monetized ads doesn't work
that's Laura
1:09:53
Ingram how it works having ads
if you
1:09:55
want to say whatever you want
to say
1:09:57
yeah
1:09:58
her radio show she really got
kicked off
1:10:00
because of advertiser pressure
yeah I
1:10:04
think she's on one of the
networks that
1:10:06
you can't monetize but she was
on one of
1:10:09
them well know that if that is a
1:10:10
monetized network because
that's a
1:10:12
closed loop yeah well you know
to get
1:10:16
kicked off yeah that's exactly
it the
1:10:18
Internet is what I like about
this is
1:10:20
what I enjoy about D I I kind
of enjoy
1:10:23
watching these these happens
these
1:10:25
things happening because it's
like oh
1:10:28
yeah good support from your you
know you
1:10:32
you've been there you've been
making the
1:10:34
network money because they're
not
1:10:35
putting you up for free and
people like
1:10:37
your show some people I guess I
don't
1:10:39
know I've always found it
should it be
1:10:40
not quite as I like your TV
shows better
1:10:43
but she's making money for me
this is
1:10:46
just a little cry little
there's one
1:10:49
little complaints a couple of
the
1:10:50
advertisers bailout and you
take her out
1:10:53
you throw her out in the baby
with the
1:10:54
bathwater
1:10:55
you just get boost give or kick
around
1:10:58
on her but she bouncing on her
on her
1:11:00
butt right at the studios I
know what
1:11:02
kind of operations are these my
name is
1:11:05
you can operate for their people
1:11:06
now of course why would they
they're
1:11:08
money-making operations oh no
way I
1:11:11
do it either she'd be gone in a
1:11:12
heartbeat if I was running the
place
1:11:13
well you're a heartless no
that's your
1:11:16
job as a corporation oh it's
not yes it
1:11:20
is
1:11:20
it doesn't have to be K all
righty then
1:11:24
how many corporations have you
run
1:11:27
I've actually run a couple but
they're
1:11:29
all like me and man me me as I
reviewed
1:11:32
I've run a public company you
don't care
1:11:35
I didn't like the job very much
I'll be
1:11:37
honest but you don't care it's
just you
1:11:40
can't are plenty of CEOs of big
1:11:42
corporations who do care okay I
know in
1:11:47
the information business in the
you got
1:11:52
the platform from PC Magazine
over one
1:11:55
article in your 35 year history
would
1:11:58
that I agree with I know their
word era
1:12:00
douchebags for doing that but
but let me
1:12:02
give you an example of how the
1:12:03
newspapers used to be run you
start
1:12:05
attacking some guy and
threatening the
1:12:07
newspaper the disfavored go
after it's
1:12:09
not an it's not a newspaper
this is an
1:12:12
information outlet and it could
go after
1:12:13
the advertisers that's what
Limbaugh has
1:12:15
been doing every time somebody
threatens
1:12:17
to pull advertiser from
Limbaugh he
1:12:20
tells us his census ditto heads
out to
1:12:23
make their lives miserable
that's what
1:12:24
you do there's a difference
between Rush
1:12:28
Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham but
here's
1:12:33
what I wanted to point out
besides all
1:12:35
that is that we we recognized
early on
1:12:40
the only way to pull this model
off is
1:12:43
to open up two things one
donation
1:12:46
amounts make them people can
personalize
1:12:49
them and also it's the value you
1:12:51
determine it's like if if we're
worst
1:12:52
five bucks worth 5 bucks fine
this is
1:12:54
perfect doesn't matter so we
left that
1:12:57
open we didn't we didn't say
you have to
1:12:59
do this or have to do that
whatever you
1:13:00
think is valuable second thing
we do
1:13:03
everything ourselves there
isn't you
1:13:05
cannot have producers that you
that you
1:13:08
hire and put on a payroll
because it
1:13:10
just there's not enough money
in in the
1:13:12
value Network I don't think it
is for
1:13:14
any system really and I'm
always stunned
1:13:16
by the podcasts that have maybe
three
1:13:19
people taking part and credit a
credit
1:13:22
roll guy on the board a
producer a
1:13:27
Booker I mean they maybe have
six seven
1:13:29
people working there and it's
like that
1:13:31
is like five or six too many so
the
1:13:36
first one of the first things
we did is
1:13:37
or early on as we said our
audience are
1:13:41
not listener
1:13:41
they're not slubs just sitting
around
1:13:43
they know stuff we figured it
out pretty
1:13:46
quickly as we got every
three-letter
1:13:48
agency cherlene in in the
United States
1:13:50
was sending us information like
oh we
1:13:52
listened to you guys about the
CDC I
1:13:53
think was the first like we're
laughing
1:13:56
about you guys but you're more
right
1:13:57
than you're wrong and here's
what we
1:13:59
think about X Y & Z so we said
these are
1:14:01
our real producers and the
production
1:14:03
work they do is the value that
it's
1:14:05
returning the value they get
from the
1:14:07
show they don't have to support
us
1:14:08
financially
1:14:09
so that worked very well we
also that
1:14:12
I've made incessant that this
is the OCD
1:14:15
thing of mine is to keep it all
1:14:17
contained hope all production
that we
1:14:19
can just do it ourselves
1:14:21
and I see these networks I did
I sing I
1:14:24
think I sent you this article
this is
1:14:26
the wsd G this is the outfit
that builds
1:14:30
Studios they yeah used to be
exclusively
1:14:32
recording studios do a lot of
broadcast
1:14:35
studios yeah and they did the
the gimlet
1:14:39
media yeah yeah yeah in 20,000
square
1:14:44
foot Brooklyn facility
dedicated there's
1:14:48
your overhead dedicating 2,700
square
1:14:51
feet to one studio and they
have they
1:14:55
got delet system so they can
you know
1:14:57
copy edits back and forth
between their
1:15:00
12 podcast studios including a
full
1:15:05
music product recording studio
these
1:15:08
guys are insane today oh I wish
they
1:15:12
would just say hey how did that
work out
1:15:13
when you guys did it what
didn't you
1:15:16
can't do this it doesn't work
that way
1:15:18
anymore oh my goodness I put
that in the
1:15:22
show no she got a seat the
facility in
1:15:25
my apartment donation amounts a
very so
1:15:38
much because there's you know
people can
1:15:39
choose their own we have to
remember
1:15:41
that we kind of picked up it
was it was
1:15:43
actually again in the early
days but it
1:15:45
was the producers that could
come up
1:15:47
with these crazy numbers you
know you
1:15:50
know they would have some
number then we
1:15:52
spend may have to show decoding
what is
1:15:54
this
1:15:55
number meaning and I guess you
know it's
1:15:57
that's a square root it became
a thing
1:15:59
yeah I became a thing and if
you make it
1:16:01
a Fibonacci I mean what mm-hmm
that's
1:16:04
important to people so don't be
so
1:16:06
stringent anyway what I'm
saying is for
1:16:09
those who have been with us for
eleven
1:16:10
years we've been with us for
eleven
1:16:11
minutes thank you you clearly
understand
1:16:13
how it works and we really
appreciate
1:16:15
the value you return to us cuz
we can
1:16:17
keep doing it this way and
we're not
1:16:19
splitting not spit on 2700
square foot
1:16:22
studios in a 20,000 square foot
Brooklyn
1:16:25
facility and that's all VC
money they're
1:16:28
not making enough to sister's
throwing
1:16:32
money away theses are idiots I
wish I
1:16:34
wish if someone lives in
Brooklyn can
1:16:37
you just be on the standby
because when
1:16:39
they fold I want you to be able
to go in
1:16:40
and put your stickers on the
equipment
1:16:42
we could use some of that we
wouldn't
1:16:44
mind buying some of that I'll
be an OSU
1:16:46
so you use the equipment and in
the
1:16:49
meantime you can also consider
1:16:50
supporting us for our next show
in which
1:16:53
I'll probably have is the
Golden Globes
1:16:55
tonight it was I think is to
not excuse
1:16:59
tonight someone's tonight well
have a
1:17:01
report on Globes are tonight
yes sure
1:17:03
we'll have a report please
support us at
1:17:04
Vollrath org slash n a so now
you know
1:17:08
all about the value for value
model go
1:17:10
up there propagate this
information our
1:17:12
formula is this we go out we
hit people
1:17:17
in the mouth
1:17:31
while on the subject of the
Golden
1:17:34
Globes clip because everybody's
now you
1:17:40
know they've changed the way
these shows
1:17:41
are because the women just
don't get up
1:17:43
to look pretty they have to
make a
1:17:45
statement so they read this is
the clip
1:17:48
is politicizing the awards
power in the
1:17:51
form of fashion okay and
generations
1:17:56
that is at the forefront of
Milan I have
1:18:00
two of these clips play that
play the
1:18:02
CBC clip first Hollywood's
awards season
1:18:04
has arrived beginning Sunday
with the
1:18:06
Golden Globes the stars will be
there
1:18:09
steps in on the red carpet and
with much
1:18:11
of the world watching these
sorts of
1:18:13
things are always an
opportunity for
1:18:14
fashionable drama except now the
1:18:18
question you're more likely to
hear
1:18:19
perhaps may not be who are you
wearing
1:18:21
but why are you wearing that the
1:18:24
Hollywood red carpet seems to
have
1:18:26
become the fabric of a very
political
1:18:29
message no first there were the
black
1:18:36
dresses at last year's Golden
Globes to
1:18:38
show solidarity with sexual
harassment
1:18:40
and assault survivors then the
orange
1:18:42
pins at the Oscars to protest
gun
1:18:44
violence and a few months ago
at the
1:18:46
Emmys Jennifer Lewis's Nike
outfit in
1:18:49
support of Colin Kaepernick
lately red
1:18:52
carpets have been less about
fashion
1:18:54
statements and more about
political ones
1:18:56
this is a new form of currency
is
1:18:58
activism and Carla Welch is at
the
1:19:01
center of it in between
celebrity
1:19:03
fittings here at her la studio
for
1:19:05
clients like Sarah Paulson and
Elisabeth
1:19:07
Moss the Canadian stylist posts
social
1:19:09
media messages on immigration
voting and
1:19:12
indigenous issues she dressed
actor
1:19:15
Tracee Ellis Ross in an array
of black
1:19:16
designers at the American Music
Awards
1:19:18
and worked behind the scenes to
support
1:19:20
the times up movement Welch has
become
1:19:23
one of the most sought-after
stylists
1:19:25
among Hollywood's elite not
despite her
1:19:28
views but because of them yeah
starts to
1:19:32
make you sick yes remember when
the
1:19:36
Dixie Chicks and Michael Moore
told
1:19:39
George Bush he was an a-hole
and the
1:19:42
left one
1:19:43
oh you can't do that
1:19:48
that was in my lifetime yeah
that's
1:19:52
changed quite a bit yeah now
that your
1:19:55
MF and yes MF or her yes MF for
yeh so
1:20:01
that no they've gone out of off
the deep
1:20:03
end so let's finish this up
there's
1:20:05
parts part two and generations
that is
1:20:07
at the forefront of breaking
the mold
1:20:09
politically active 18 year old
actress
1:20:11
Yara Shahidi
1:20:12
wore a skirt covered with the
face of
1:20:14
African American activist
Angela Davis
1:20:16
to a high-profile event in April
1:20:19
stranger things started on
their own
1:20:21
were the names of parkland
shooting
1:20:23
victims on the back of her
shirt Kids
1:20:25
Choice Awards the rise in
social media
1:20:27
has allowed celebrities to be a
little
1:20:29
bit more open about who they
truly are
1:20:31
that the election has made a
lot of
1:20:34
people feel like look I'm not
willing to
1:20:36
just be quiet
1:20:37
even something also recognize
the power
1:20:42
of speaking up
1:20:43
fourteen-year-old Brown
credited Calvin
1:20:45
Klein for the design of her
shirt to her
1:20:47
18 million Instagram followers
and
1:20:49
chahee DS Angela Davis skirt
was made by
1:20:52
product I think that the days
of just
1:20:54
being like oh I look pretty in
a dress
1:20:56
which I love we love
celebrating fashion
1:20:59
we love wearing beautiful
clothes but
1:21:01
they're coming a little bit to
a close
1:21:03
and I think it's a good thing
that
1:21:04
there's different ways of using
power
1:21:06
power in the form of fashion
1:21:10
why do you do this to me why
this to me
1:21:13
enough I do it because I know
it makes
1:21:16
you as sick as it makes me well
you
1:21:18
listen to the clip and I said
oh my god
1:21:20
I'm getting sick I've got to
put this on
1:21:22
the show cuz i Adam deserves to
be just
1:21:25
this sick well you're gonna
regret it
1:21:26
with what I have for you next
then this
1:21:29
is we're gonna stay with award
shows the
1:21:31
Kevin Hart drama now instead of
talking
1:21:34
about you know elections in the
Congo
1:21:36
and sending troops there which
i think
1:21:39
isn't that kind of a thing
these days
1:21:40
where we have or don't have
troops now
1:21:42
don't report on that now let's
get into
1:21:44
Kevin Hart's tweets and this
was this
1:21:47
was kind of it I don't think we
even
1:21:49
talked about it's a little
issue that
1:21:50
originally managed to avoid
yeah we did
1:21:52
but then Ellen invited Kevin
Hart on as
1:21:56
a to create a bridge between
Kevin Hart
1:22:02
and the Academy so he can host
the
1:22:03
Academy Awards again well let's
listen
1:22:06
let me help a little bit by
backing this
1:22:09
up
1:22:09
Kevin Hart was initially
announced by
1:22:12
the Academy Awards group to
host the
1:22:15
show and then somebody came up
with so
1:22:17
he apparently had some he's
gonna decide
1:22:20
anti-gay tweets from some not
know 10
1:22:23
years ago around the time of
his special
1:22:25
where he had similar jokes in
the
1:22:27
special yeah it was pretty much
just
1:22:28
jokes as tweets and so somebody
brought
1:22:32
this up is it all by god this is
1:22:34
terrible in heartwood before it
even
1:22:36
became a scandal quit he said
I'm not
1:22:38
gonna do the show yes he said
I've
1:22:40
already apologized for those
tweets and
1:22:42
I'm not gonna do it again just
to be
1:22:43
able to host the show otherwise
it'll
1:22:45
keep coming back I think it was
right
1:22:46
about that
1:22:47
yes and then Ellen wanted to
build the
1:22:51
bridge and I didn't
1:22:52
yes go ahead I believe I do
believe I do
1:22:56
believe that somebody there's
something
1:23:01
they can't get a hose for the
ABC it's
1:23:04
ABC Ellen's on ABC hello yeah
hello with
1:23:06
ABC ABC said you got a patch
this up
1:23:09
Ellen make it happen because we
won't
1:23:10
have any ratings every year
this show
1:23:13
comes out the ratings go down
we look
1:23:15
like doofuses we've got to get
this guy
1:23:19
he's at least entertaining is
maybe he
1:23:21
could pull it together because
we've had
1:23:22
good luck in the past
1:23:24
you know with other black guy
with other
1:23:27
black hosts yeah and comedian
hosts and
1:23:30
this guy's the top of his game
as a
1:23:31
comic you got it get him I
could we
1:23:34
can't nobody else to do it we
can't get
1:23:35
anyone that we want
1:23:37
so this was a something of a
scam
1:23:40
and was it not who was that the
Ellen
1:23:46
show that had the had the Vegas
Massacre
1:23:52
security guard on
1:23:55
yeah which was something of a
scam
1:23:57
something of a scam because she
has
1:23:59
deals with the she's got slot
machines
1:24:01
and everything was at The Ellen
Show I
1:24:02
think it was a lunch oh yes it
was
1:24:04
because there's there is a slot
machine
1:24:05
called the Ellen yes so yeah so
she is
1:24:09
all in on the corporate
structure and
1:24:11
she is doing whatever she wants
or
1:24:13
there's a big big business and
and I've
1:24:15
learned a lot about Ellen I
watched her
1:24:17
special on Netflix and that was
quite
1:24:20
good and she's got an
interesting
1:24:21
background I've learned some
things I
1:24:23
didn't know about her career
she's a San
1:24:25
Francisco comic and
1:24:29
oh so she's clearly all in with
the
1:24:32
system and I think she made a
big
1:24:34
mistake by trying to patch over
the
1:24:40
homophobic nature of Kevin
Hart's past
1:24:43
that's how it's categorized I
don't
1:24:46
think he's a homophobe I think
he's just
1:24:47
making jokes and ten years ago
you could
1:24:50
make different jokes I think
she's going
1:24:53
to she and I or do you see
evidence of
1:24:55
it she's being excoriated by the
1:24:56
community which i don't believe
exists
1:24:59
but okay there's supposed to be
some
1:25:01
LGBTQ or to be precise LGBTQIA
APK
1:25:05
community and this came true
just the
1:25:09
other night as Don Lemon
1:25:12
the overnight sensation on CNN
schooled
1:25:15
Kevin Hart and more and he did
this in a
1:25:19
10-minute soliloquy ten minutes
of
1:25:23
validly leave this guy on the
ten
1:25:25
minutes of valuable overnight
airtime so
1:25:29
I brought it just by cutting
out the
1:25:30
pauses which I did this morning
it was
1:25:34
four minutes
1:25:34
that's how long his pauses were
1:25:39
then I cut it down almost in
half again
1:25:41
to be able to share on the show
so I'm
1:25:43
saying right off the bat it is
not a
1:25:45
true representation of what he
said
1:25:47
because of all
1:25:50
the very
1:25:53
long pauses yeah but I Matic
pause but I
1:25:57
learned a lot about the black
community
1:26:00
and I learned a lot about
community I
1:26:03
just I'm using don LeMans words
the
1:26:05
black community and the LGBT
community
1:26:09
and it is an eye-opener Kevin if
1:26:14
anything this is the time to
hear other
1:26:16
people out to understand why
they might
1:26:19
have been offended and I don't
see any
1:26:21
meaningful outreach to the LGBT
1:26:24
community and now you want the
1:26:26
conversation to end but many of
us
1:26:28
really need to keep the
conversation
1:26:30
going
1:26:31
it's life or death and someone
like a
1:26:34
Kevin Hart with one of the just
you know
1:26:36
life or death now we're talking
about a
1:26:37
comedian and the Oscars life or
death
1:26:39
biggest megaphones in the war
can be a
1:26:42
leader
1:26:43
the ultimate change agent can
help
1:26:46
change homophobia in the black
community
1:26:48
okay this is where I wouldn't
homophobia
1:26:50
in the black community you're
telling me
1:26:52
that that people of a different
color
1:26:55
are different this does not sit
well
1:26:57
with me Don something Kevin's
old
1:27:00
Twitter jokes addressed but in
the wrong
1:27:02
way
1:27:03
so take the tweet where he said
that he
1:27:05
would break a doll a doll house
over his
1:27:08
son's head if he found him
playing with
1:27:11
it
1:27:12
he said that's gay by the way
if you'd
1:27:14
look at this is so egregiously
shitty of
1:27:16
Don Lemon to do he takes a
tweet that is
1:27:19
a joke with a punchline and he
removes
1:27:22
the punchline and says oh yeah
if you
1:27:24
were gay
1:27:26
you know I say he doesn't
literally read
1:27:28
the tweet which is a joke not
of maybe
1:27:30
funny one but he pulls it apart
and
1:27:32
makes it sound like he would
hit the kid
1:27:34
over literally hit the kid in
the
1:27:36
doghouse if he was because it's
gay that
1:27:38
was a joke to Kevin
1:27:40
but the truth is that is a
reality for
1:27:43
many little boys in the United
States
1:27:45
somewhere a black dad is
beating his
1:27:48
black son okay now you've got my
1:27:50
attention Don Lemon he's
talking about
1:27:53
violence in black not unless a
community
1:27:56
says it all the time he's
saying black
1:27:58
Americans beat their children
the same
1:28:00
way it happened to my friend
1:28:02
oscar-nominated director Lee
Daniels who
1:28:05
through his TV show Empire
portrayed how
1:28:09
as a little boy his dad threw
him in a
1:28:13
trash can for wearing heels and
now
1:28:16
somehow we've magically
transformed from
1:28:18
being gay to wearing heels and
I don't
1:28:21
think it's a prerequisite that
you are
1:28:23
gay as a child that you wear
heels but
1:28:25
okay Don I'll take your word
for it took
1:28:27
him out of the house and threw
them in
1:28:29
the trash cans that's a reality
for a
1:28:31
lot of little boys those views
of the
1:28:34
LGBT people within the black
community
1:28:36
have consequences so think of
this okay
1:28:39
we're about faculties a news
1:28:41
organization the Center for
American
1:28:42
Progress says at 40 we're did
you hear
1:28:45
that
1:28:45
we're a fact based organization
let me
1:28:47
just get some facts for unity
have
1:28:49
consequences so think of this
okay we're
1:28:52
about facts here this is a news
1:28:53
organization the Center for
American
1:28:54
Progress says that 44% of
homeless gay
1:28:58
youth are black that's huge
1:29:01
remember black people only make
up 12%
1:29:03
of the US population
1:29:05
I'd like how he uses this
statistic
1:29:07
because when it's about
violence let's
1:29:10
just take one against police
officers
1:29:13
getting killed or if it's about
crime
1:29:19
when someone says hey man the
black
1:29:23
population in America is only
12% yet
1:29:26
they're responsible for more X
Y Z then
1:29:29
you're a horrible bigot and an
a-hole
1:29:31
and you can't say these things
1:29:34
but now Don can use the
statistic this
1:29:37
guy hasn't even used the
statistic he
1:29:39
uses the the derivative which
is very
1:29:41
mislead stream homeless gay
youth are
1:29:45
black that's huge
1:29:47
remember black people only make
up 12%
1:29:49
of the u.s. population
1:29:50
those kids were likely kicked
out of
1:29:52
their homes or had to run away
because
1:29:55
of who they are and because of
how our
1:29:57
community treats them now when
he's
1:29:59
saying community he means black
1:30:00
community he's telling me that
black
1:30:03
Americans are more homophobic
than white
1:30:06
than any other color Americans
I find
1:30:09
this to be a real outrage and
we have to
1:30:12
talk about outreach Ellen a
trailblazer
1:30:15
and respected leader in the LGBT
1:30:17
community she really is she
almost lost
1:30:20
her entire career for coming
out for
1:30:21
being a trailblazer doing it
first
1:30:23
she gave Kevin the opportunity
to tell
1:30:25
his story on her show that is
an olive
1:30:27
branch if I have ever seen one
she says
1:30:30
that she forgives Kevin and
thinks that
1:30:32
he should host the Oscars but
honestly
1:30:34
Ellen doesn't speak for the
whole
1:30:36
community Oh Oh big mistake
Ellen you
1:30:40
don't speak for the whole
community and
1:30:44
this is where DOM is finally
going to
1:30:46
tell us that there is no such
thing as a
1:30:48
community and he's full of crap
we need
1:30:50
to speak up for the young black
people
1:30:54
especially young black men kids
in the
1:30:57
LGBTQ community I'm a gay black
man I
1:30:59
don't know what it's like to be
a white
1:31:02
lesbian what what aren't you in
the same
1:31:04
community you're telling me
that you're
1:31:07
in the same community as a
black gay man
1:31:10
and you don't understand what
it's like
1:31:12
to be a lesbian white woman
what kind of
1:31:15
a community is that there's
much black
1:31:17
men kids in the LGBT community
I'm a gay
1:31:21
black man I don't know what
it's like to
1:31:22
be a white lesbian I don't know
if
1:31:26
someone called me and they had
an issue
1:31:27
whose - hey Don you don't know
what it's
1:31:29
like to be a lesbian you don't
know what
1:31:30
it's like to be a white man you
don't
1:31:31
know what it's like to be a
woman I
1:31:32
would listen to them so I'm
saying these
1:31:35
issues need to be addressed
especially
1:31:36
when it comes to black youth in
our
1:31:37
country because they need to
know
1:31:41
righteous oh yeah he's the kid
he's the
1:31:44
king of the gays now
1:31:46
that's how he's portraying
himself in
1:31:48
the king of the community and
it's okay
1:31:50
to be who they are really in the
1:31:53
african-american community I'm
sorry
1:31:55
he's the king of the blacks now
we have
1:31:57
to stop low-key co-signing
homophobia it
1:32:02
is not cool
1:32:04
so how man is this true is this
true
1:32:08
that it goes something deeper
than skin
1:32:10
colour that or that it is just
black
1:32:13
black Americans are more
homophobic than
1:32:16
the rest is that what he's
saying
1:32:19
that's what a me might be
saying is what
1:32:22
it sounds like to me I'd say so
it
1:32:24
sounds like what he's saying
but I don't
1:32:26
know how you can make that
assertion he
1:32:27
doesn't even know how a white
lesbian
1:32:29
thinks how did you know how a
white
1:32:31
anybody else thinks so how can
he make
1:32:34
that that generalization he's
doing no
1:32:37
this is the 20 minute 20
seconds left
1:32:40
and we won't tolerate jokes
that tell
1:32:43
those youth otherwise oh so we
can't
1:32:45
have jokes now because
apologizing and
1:32:47
moving on does not make the
world a
1:32:49
better place for people who are
gay or
1:32:51
people who are transgender
being an ally
1:32:53
does so Kevin no one is against
you no
1:32:55
one said that you should be
fired or any
1:32:57
of that what they want for you
is to
1:33:00
bring light to this to be an
ally so it
1:33:02
is your chance right now to do
the right
1:33:04
thing to change minds and
possibly save
1:33:08
lives okay Don thanks for
counting on a
1:33:10
comedian to save lives but why
is it
1:33:13
that all I hear is it's white
alt-right
1:33:17
people who hate gays that's all
I hear
1:33:19
and here's Don Lemon in ten
minutes
1:33:21
saying that it's it's worse
with blacks
1:33:27
I have no answer for all of
this but it
1:33:29
just worked me apparently
1:33:33
she's generalizing a whole
bunch of
1:33:36
things here and that is not
cool Don
1:33:38
Lemon that is not cool
generalize
1:33:44
well they had Chris Rock on as
the host
1:33:47
twice in a row cuz he liked him
yeah I
1:33:50
don't know why they just don't
bring him
1:33:51
back no I you know I listen to
the don't
1:33:55
do we talked about this last
time I
1:33:56
listen to the louis c.k one of
his
1:33:58
recent stand-ups and i got to
tell you
1:34:01
something broke he's nothing he
says is
1:34:03
funny it's a bit societal yes
it's
1:34:08
broken well is that here's a
good
1:34:10
example
1:34:14
you can find one of these old
thousand
1:34:16
funniest jokes but I'm not
talking about
1:34:19
buying one off the shelf at a
bookstore
1:34:21
I'm talking about going to a
used
1:34:23
bookstore and buying the
thousand
1:34:26
funniest jokes or any of the
Bennett
1:34:28
Cerf books where he collects
all these
1:34:31
jokes mm-hmm and these are all
pretty
1:34:33
I'm talking about once printed
in the
1:34:35
50s and 60s pull those books
off the
1:34:37
shelf and tell me if there's
any joke in
1:34:39
the book that's funny you won't
find one
1:34:43
no they're just not funny
anymore this
1:34:45
is not funny but I may have to
say was
1:34:48
it funny then it probably was I
know you
1:34:51
say hidden here's the now
here's another
1:34:53
problem I have I did take the
folklore
1:34:56
classes from Alan Dundas at the
1:34:57
University of California and a
lot of us
1:34:59
focused on jokes the problem I
have with
1:35:03
the thesis about these timing
the
1:35:05
timeliness of jokes is is the
folklorist
1:35:08
named legmen who did the
rationale of
1:35:12
the dirty joke volumes 1 & 2
rationale
1:35:16
of the dirty joke is dirty
jokes and
1:35:19
probably dirty jokes from the
starting
1:35:24
in the 1920s 30s 40s 50s that
these are
1:35:28
all old jokes because he goes
back to
1:35:30
the original joke that made this
1:35:34
particularly at aghori what it
was and
1:35:37
he has all these different
categories
1:35:38
joke categories you don't even
have
1:35:40
anymore like jokes about
American
1:35:41
Indians you can read many of
these jokes
1:35:45
and I would say mmm not all of
them but
1:35:47
at least half of them are still
funny
1:35:49
the dirty jokes
1:35:51
yeah the dirty jokes I can see
that
1:35:54
so I'm skint baffled by you
know what is
1:35:57
the non dirty societal jokes
that are
1:35:59
talking about new daily life
why is
1:36:03
louis c.k not funny anymore I
don't know
1:36:06
but he just wasn't I think it's
also you
1:36:10
know you can make comebacks in
America
1:36:11
we're great at it we everyone
gets at
1:36:13
least one comeback shot but
when you
1:36:16
when you come back you gotta
eat pie man
1:36:20
you gotta eat humble pie you
gotta just
1:36:22
refuse this you got to make fun
of
1:36:24
yourself he doesn't the first
thing out
1:36:26
of his mouth is I lost 35
million
1:36:28
dollars how is your day going
yeah
1:36:30
it's wrong and I think that
because I
1:36:33
that's your opening joke no no
good a
1:36:37
joke to get much sympathy from
me now
1:36:39
buddy now so he's screwing up
the great
1:36:41
American tradition of the of
the the
1:36:43
comeback kid and it's over now
for him
1:36:46
in my book
1:36:48
well he's you know the combat
can be
1:36:50
re-engineered as possible I'm
not from
1:36:53
the looks of it I'm not seeing
it
1:36:56
unfav to stay on this path of
being
1:36:59
adamant I mean his his attitude
is look
1:37:03
I talked about these things
that I've
1:37:06
been accused of in my material
it's not
1:37:09
like news to anybody that I'm
like a
1:37:11
masturbator uh and so he
resents the
1:37:16
fact has turned back on him yes
and
1:37:19
instead of seeing what was
wrong what's
1:37:22
wrong with this picture and
doing what
1:37:25
he's supposed to do which he
doesn't
1:37:26
know how to do that's probably
just
1:37:28
worked yeah which that makes it
most
1:37:31
comics who are act like they're
not
1:37:34
funny they're not gonna be
funny right
1:37:38
oh well
1:37:41
pay attention people this is
how to do
1:37:43
watch the Kevin Hart L&T what
came of it
1:37:46
it's nothing
1:37:48
who cares nothing's coming up
until I
1:37:51
get to do this show no I think
Ellen
1:37:53
wants to do the show I think
she's
1:37:54
Mayans wars before
1:37:55
yeah she would want to go back
that's
1:37:57
what I'm thinking but I don't
know more
1:38:03
importantly I really really
don't care
1:38:05
well you cared enough to do a
segment
1:38:08
that was different this dawn
LeMond are
1:38:09
you kidding me he's the king of
all
1:38:12
blacks and gays of the
communities all
1:38:14
right let's go back to some of
the clips
1:38:16
from 19 2009 these are now I
realize
1:38:20
what this bit is these are
clips from
1:38:22
2009 but the within the clip it
could be
1:38:25
something older like the 2000
or the
1:38:27
1988 Al Gore thing right and
for example
1:38:32
a good example of 2009 clip is
the
1:38:34
Taylor Swift clip which used to
be a
1:38:36
classic on the show when John
first
1:38:41
identified the talent other
than very
1:38:45
young Taylor Swift straited but
Taylor's
1:38:47
strive for perfection only
makes the
1:38:49
people who work with this young
star
1:38:51
respect her that much more
1:39:00
there's been times where I've
played a
1:39:01
solo and then just say well can
you kind
1:39:03
of do this and she'll sing me
and melody
1:39:05
I'll incorporate that and and
that's
1:39:07
very impressive for someone her
age
1:39:15
the problem that I was having
with the
1:39:18
solo is that it like it's
getting a
1:39:19
little noodley I'd rather it be
like
1:39:36
less notes that would be great
let's try
1:39:41
it again I remember this and I
remember
1:39:45
being very skeptical of your
adoration
1:39:46
of the young Taylor and how
wrong I was
1:39:50
yeah I saw this coming that
brought chop
1:39:54
slouched you were so right on
the money
1:39:59
can I bring us back - no don't
bring us
1:40:02
back we have one more okay and
that way
1:40:03
we don't have to go back again
oh good
1:40:05
this was our one of the early
this is
1:40:09
one of the early jobs karmas Oh
from
1:40:13
2009 where we had or we had the
Nancy
1:40:17
Pelosi thing incorporated with
an old
1:40:19
Dick Powell clip from one of
the old
1:40:22
Broadway musicals that was
turned into a
1:40:24
TV show or to a movie Dick
Powell March
1:40:29
rhythm to it yes I have I have
something
1:40:32
about a forgotten man
1:41:03
that's right is that is that
the clip
1:41:06
you edited back then yeah
that's that's
1:41:10
fantastic yeah I was doing good
work
1:41:12
yeah what happened this is I
have a
1:41:21
presentation a couple of clips
it's very
1:41:25
much for us now but I think in
looking
1:41:28
at tomorrow the brexit movie
will be
1:41:32
released in the UK it will be
aired on
1:41:35
channel 4 and it also I believe
it drops
1:41:39
in the US on HBO this is a
propaganda
1:41:43
piece it has big names in it
it's a
1:41:45
propaganda piece to tell
everyone that
1:41:49
the algos ripped them off in
the brexit
1:41:52
vote and the timing could not
be more
1:41:54
perfect because today again we
read that
1:41:57
everybody wants a do-over
something that
1:41:59
predicted from day one because
that's
1:42:01
the way it works and so it
looks like
1:42:04
they're just pushing and
pushing and
1:42:05
pushing
1:42:06
now comic strip bloggers he was
posting
1:42:11
in no agenda social calm which
is our
1:42:13
mastodons federated nude by the
way as
1:42:17
an aside I figured out what why
1:42:20
mastodons it has doesn't have
the
1:42:23
toxicity of Twitter it's it hit
me all
1:42:26
of a sudden okay and this is
something
1:42:29
that was not in the original
Twitter
1:42:30
design
1:42:32
the ability to retweet with a
comment so
1:42:36
you can boost a post on
mastodons but
1:42:39
you can't add a comment so you
know so a
1:42:41
true boost like on a retweet on
Twitter
1:42:45
which is a user demanded
function by the
1:42:48
way people were doing
originally know
1:42:51
the users demanded it they were
they
1:42:52
were using some people well
there was an
1:42:55
element of that but at the same
time the
1:42:56
users are going RT yep and then
cutting
1:43:01
and pasting another but
somebody else's
1:43:03
tweet like and Twitter felt
that was
1:43:06
giving the users too much
personal power
1:43:08
and so they came up with a
retweet
1:43:11
button and that actually made
things
1:43:14
worse because now you retweet
it shows
1:43:17
up as a tweet on your timeline
not a
1:43:19
reply replies don't usually
show up that
1:43:21
quickly it shows it shows your
followers
1:43:24
a retweet and you could add any
snarky
1:43:26
comment or whatever comment you
want and
1:43:28
that is what starts the
virality this
1:43:32
does not exist within the
mastodons
1:43:34
system and the the guy Gargan
whatever
1:43:38
in his name he says I'm not
putting it
1:43:39
in so I'm not putting it in
because that
1:43:41
is exactly what ruined Twitter
and I
1:43:43
think it's a very astute
observation I
1:43:45
think could be the artis with
comment is
1:43:48
to blend anyway so comic store
bloggers
1:43:50
in there and you know he's an
expert in
1:43:52
machine learning now so he
claims now
1:43:55
I've known this guy since early
early
1:43:57
early daily source code days I
mean way
1:43:59
before the show huge orig og
regional
1:44:03
Fuji and I have no idea what he
does
1:44:06
yeah I know he doesn't make
money on his
1:44:08
cartoons and it hit me all of a
sudden
1:44:10
he's my handler I think about
it he
1:44:17
always wants you like you don't
say
1:44:18
anything about Poland and it
gets all
1:44:21
pissed off but he stays 20
years almost
1:44:25
he stays I think yeah if you
look back
1:44:28
in his history I think he was
in the
1:44:31
tech end I think it was
probably some
1:44:32
kind of agent and then
Microsoft kicked
1:44:35
him out because he was you know
telling
1:44:37
the dude too many things to
their system
1:44:39
and I think whoever he works
for if it's
1:44:41
the Russians or whoever you know
1:44:43
Interpol I don't know who he
works
1:44:45
but he clearly got demoted and
they said
1:44:48
here do this podcast guy he's
your
1:44:51
target now cuz he stays doesn't
you know
1:44:54
he'll get pissed off about
something
1:44:56
it's always something in the
show quit
1:44:58
that we do he can't if we I am
his
1:45:00
target I am loud to quit he's
not
1:45:02
allowed to quit so anyway he
now he says
1:45:05
he's always silly as it sounds
it's not
1:45:07
that silly it's a possibility
really
1:45:10
could be he's he like the guy
that
1:45:12
couldn't handle the big job so
they gave
1:45:13
him me that guy Jason all right
so it
1:45:20
doesn't matter I like that he's
a part
1:45:22
he's a part of our experience
and I
1:45:24
appreciate him for that that's
some good
1:45:25
art he does some great arts
he's a great
1:45:27
contributor and sometimes he's
right but
1:45:29
he handler so he's posting
about though
1:45:32
this proves machine learning
but and I
1:45:34
kind of misunderstood what he
was saying
1:45:36
cuz he he posted a video of
Dominic
1:45:40
Cummings at some kind of
marketing
1:45:43
conference Dominic Cummings is
the Brad
1:45:46
parce qu'elle of brexit this is
the guy
1:45:48
who did all of the vote leave
campaign
1:45:52
and you know the Facebook
campaign and
1:45:55
he explains exactly how he did
it and we
1:45:58
like this stuff it's
interesting because
1:46:00
you know these days Facebook
and other
1:46:04
social networks are seen as
high it's
1:46:06
you know it's it's both a
fantastic tool
1:46:08
because you can get stuff done
you can
1:46:10
change the electrics thinking
1:46:14
at the same time the Russians
could use
1:46:16
it and change the electorate's
thinking
1:46:18
so is a very it's very it's
mysterious
1:46:22
and it's scary and what do we
do with it
1:46:25
and for us I think is just as
1:46:27
interesting as listening to how
the
1:46:30
digital campaign for Trump ran
as to
1:46:32
hear what he did and his
conclusions
1:46:34
this Dominic Cummings for the
brexit
1:46:36
campaign and I thought you'd be
1:46:38
interested - yeah okay so we'll
start
1:46:42
off with the messaging so we
worked out
1:46:47
essentially what I call out by
the way
1:46:49
the guy it has a bit of
Tourette's and
1:46:52
he's a stutterer so you know
it's after
1:46:55
that I cut well because
otherwise we'll
1:46:57
just be gone in this case we
got to
1:47:00
listen to him um so we worked
out
1:47:04
essentially what I call message
would be
1:47:06
and I had it was very simple had
1:47:09
arguably say five elements to
it the
1:47:14
first was the theme of take
back control
1:47:16
note the word Mac of triggering
loss
1:47:21
aversion the feeling that
something has
1:47:23
been lost and we can regain
what what
1:47:26
we've lost with which I think
was
1:47:29
interesting and it worked on
different
1:47:33
levels it wasn't it was the
most obvious
1:47:35
level Wars we got to take back
control
1:47:36
from Brussels but it was also
and I
1:47:39
think David Cameron and George
Osborne
1:47:40
didn't quite appreciate this it
was also
1:47:42
about taking back control from
of the
1:47:46
system itself
1:47:47
it was for a lot of people take
my
1:47:49
control made them think yeah
these are
1:47:52
the guys who screwed up the
economy you
1:47:54
drove off a cliff in 2008 whose
mates
1:47:57
are all the Goldman Sachs
bankers and
1:47:58
hedge fund bazan massive
bonuses uh
1:48:00
smokes on pa pa ye but the ones
paying
1:48:03
paying the bills for this will
show
1:48:05
those guys will take back
control from
1:48:07
new law in London and I think
that was a
1:48:10
that was a powerful feeling so
there you
1:48:13
go taking it back this is just
marketing
1:48:16
this is nothing special by the
way
1:48:17
taking it back was the message
take it
1:48:20
back and that was what they
decided upon
1:48:22
early on and they liked it but
then they
1:48:24
went to some academics
1:48:26
and found persuasion studies
persuasive
1:48:31
usage of words and tactics that
had
1:48:35
actual formulas attached to it
so again
1:48:38
nothing really crazy if there's
tons of
1:48:42
focus groups done on what
persuasive
1:48:45
tactics work marketing is
persuasion and
1:48:47
so they brought in the guys who
done
1:48:50
some studies so he had to do
things in
1:48:52
mistake risks and we had to do
things in
1:48:56
a slightly new way so one of
the basic
1:48:59
things that I did was I brought
in a
1:49:01
team of physicists who
essentially
1:49:04
looked at campaigning from
complete
1:49:07
first principles and what they
did was
1:49:09
they went they simply stand
around the
1:49:10
world and they said what
studies have
1:49:13
been done on issues of turnout
and
1:49:15
persuasion if I actually have
good maths
1:49:18
behind them to support and have
been
1:49:20
replicated and we can actually
have
1:49:22
confidence in and they basically
1:49:23
filtered all when through
filtered them
1:49:25
all out and came back to me in
the team
1:49:27
and said here is a small
selection of
1:49:30
things actually high quality or
1:49:33
reasonable quality work which
you can
1:49:36
rely upon and here are the
principles
1:49:38
that you can see in these
studies that
1:49:40
have been replicated with
randomized
1:49:41
control trials and whatnot in
the States
1:49:43
we basically created a
checklist of what
1:49:46
these things were and we built
the
1:49:48
communications team around
trying to
1:49:51
exploit each of these elements
which the
1:49:54
which the which the physicists
found
1:49:57
they also construct two models
to help
1:50:01
direct resources on the ground
campaigns
1:50:05
to where to actually send your
activists
1:50:06
and the digital campaign how do
you
1:50:09
actually do that in a in a
scientific
1:50:10
way and essentially you had
streams of
1:50:14
data coming in from all sorts of
1:50:16
different ways the website
email on the
1:50:18
ground canvassing a social
media pop law
1:50:22
all of this stuff is a
traditional
1:50:24
polling all of this stuff
coming in and
1:50:26
you had the data science people
sitting
1:50:29
at the heart of the operation
and
1:50:31
essentially taking our core
messages and
1:50:34
just learning experimentally a
whole
1:50:36
bunch of different things on
Facebook
1:50:38
and asked
1:50:38
and then figuring out what what
fees
1:50:40
work and what things don't work
we
1:50:41
started off with a few small
amounts of
1:50:43
money just to run this
experimental
1:50:45
process so there's your a be
testing he
1:50:48
had a small a small data set of
proven
1:50:51
persuasion techniques and what
I found
1:50:53
interesting which comes back in
a minute
1:50:54
is he was also getting feedback
from the
1:50:57
the campaigners on the ground
this is
1:50:59
never mentioned but people with
boots on
1:51:01
the ground who would go door to
door and
1:51:04
they and this is the only time
machine
1:51:06
learning was used they changed
the way
1:51:09
and this is important they
changed what
1:51:11
they used as polling data and he
1:51:13
explains would you have you
kind of
1:51:15
polling so I'm sure all of you
know the
1:51:18
polling methodology used
throughout the
1:51:22
world is essentially the same
system
1:51:23
that was invented in the late
1930s and
1:51:25
the idea of it is yo you take
roughly
1:51:27
speaking a thousand person
sample and if
1:51:30
it's random and representative
then you
1:51:32
can rely on the mathematics of
the
1:51:34
normal distribution and the
famous bell
1:51:35
curve and you that should give
you a
1:51:37
pretty accurate picture of what
people
1:51:39
think for various reasons that
is
1:51:41
becoming harder and harder to
do happy
1:51:43
to answer questions about why
that is
1:51:45
but leaving that aside what the
1:51:47
physicist said was this is
actually not
1:51:49
the way that you would invent
polling if
1:51:50
you were going to invent
polling now the
1:51:53
way actually to do it is take
massive
1:51:55
samples of hundreds of
thousands of
1:51:58
people ideally actually
millions of
1:52:00
people but say hundred
thousands people
1:52:02
and then use machine learning
and you
1:52:05
will actually have a system
which is
1:52:07
faster cheaper more accurate
and never
1:52:11
has nothing to advantage which
we
1:52:12
exploited which is that if you
do these
1:52:14
very large sample surveys you
then have
1:52:17
subsample you can define the
1:52:18
demographics that you
interrogate
1:52:21
yourself and what we did was we
1:52:23
basically used the exact same
categories
1:52:25
in the demographics that
Facebook uses
1:52:27
for its digital advertising
platform so
1:52:30
we sucked in data on the
precise same
1:52:34
basis that Facebook marketing
allows and
1:52:37
then we had therefore large sub
samples
1:52:41
of the overall polling samples
which you
1:52:43
could actually rely on and then
you
1:52:45
could take that data and plug it
1:52:47
straight back into Facebook so
you could
1:52:49
say for example we will target
1:52:52
women between 35 and 45 who
live in
1:52:55
these particular geographical
entities
1:52:58
who don't have a degree or who
do have a
1:53:00
degree or whatever
1:53:01
that's after cetera because
you've got
1:53:03
very large samples you can
actually get
1:53:05
useful information on those
kind of
1:53:07
relatively small breakdowns
1:53:10
now I'm no marketing expert but
this
1:53:12
sounds just like regular old
1:53:13
cross-indexing to me
1:53:16
yeah yeah I guess you could say
that I
1:53:19
think it's right I mean you say
that I
1:53:21
mean my shrink machine learning
in this
1:53:22
case just machine learning it's
bullcrap
1:53:24
yeah that part we know it just
nothing
1:53:27
it's just uh just there is no
such thing
1:53:29
as machine learning the
machines don't
1:53:30
learn anything it's just the
ability to
1:53:33
cross-reference cross-index
these
1:53:35
categories disregard sorter so
he
1:53:38
exactly so this is what that
resulted in
1:53:44
so we did all this and we as I
said we
1:53:48
essentially ran a whole series
of
1:53:50
experiments based on what we
found in
1:53:52
the conventional polling in the
focus
1:53:53
groups out in digital world and
then
1:53:55
filtered what what worked and
then we
1:53:58
held back almost all of our
budget and
1:54:00
then we basically dumped the
entire
1:54:01
budget in the last ten days and
really
1:54:06
in the last three or four days
again
1:54:08
exactly what the Trump campaign
did held
1:54:11
back and then just blew
millions in the
1:54:14
last week in the last few days
based
1:54:16
upon weeks and weeks of a be
testing
1:54:19
this is exactly what the media
does not
1:54:23
want to be passed around
exactly and we
1:54:27
aimed it exactly but I think
roughly
1:54:30
about seven million people saw
something
1:54:34
like I think a billion in our
heart one
1:54:36
and a half billion digital ads
over a
1:54:41
relatively short short period
of time
1:54:44
and in parallel to that you had
the
1:54:46
whole ground operation which
will also
1:54:47
to begin with they were quite
skeptical
1:54:49
about this what the hell is
some guy who
1:54:50
babbles on about quantum
mechanics what
1:54:53
does he have to tell people who
like me
1:54:54
have been going out to leaflet
on
1:54:56
doorsteps for thirty years so
people are
1:54:59
very skeptical but they do all
the
1:55:01
ground you know if you've been
doing
1:55:03
that job you actually respond
well to
1:55:05
things that work so very
quickly they
1:55:07
came back and said actually
these
1:55:09
boffins have sent us to the
right place
1:55:10
it's unbelievable these these
are our
1:55:12
people so quickly that kind of
trust
1:55:15
issue was sorted out inside the
1:55:18
organizer it's like the
organization and
1:55:20
the ground team were happy to
go where
1:55:22
the data suggested that there
that their
1:55:23
efforts will be most useful do
I think
1:55:25
this ground team is undervalued
in the
1:55:28
overall scheme of
1:55:29
because they were basically
saying
1:55:31
here's where the people live go
knock on
1:55:32
their doors and they were
getting good
1:55:34
results to a one major item
that is no
1:55:39
longer discussed as a part of
the brexit
1:55:42
vote and that was the I think
was a Jill
1:55:44
Dando who was murdered was that
her was
1:55:45
this the wrong one I don't I
don't know
1:55:49
yeah it's the the murder the
woman who
1:55:51
was murdered
1:55:54
she was a puller no no she was a
1:55:56
politician wasn't a joke ox I'm
sorry
1:55:58
Joe Cox yes sure of the Labour
Party she
1:56:01
was killed and and this is no
right time
1:56:03
on the UK in the UK yes Jill
Dando was a
1:56:06
different killing now this was
Jill Cox
1:56:08
and she was killed on June 16th
and that
1:56:11
was what just a few weeks
before the
1:56:12
before the brexit vote and that
changed
1:56:15
things dramatically but the
elites they
1:56:18
had a different view as to what
the rest
1:56:20
of the country had and this guy
of
1:56:21
course saw that in his mass
polling data
1:56:26
um and our campaign took a
bunch of it
1:56:29
we know we all pushed on I'm
sorry hold
1:56:30
on this is why did this happen
was it
1:56:34
just immigration no it wasn't
just
1:56:37
immigration giving people a
chance to
1:56:39
vote for the NHS as well as
voting
1:56:42
against the EU without that
then the
1:56:45
economic scares or the
establishment
1:56:47
would have been - you powerful
and we
1:56:49
would have lost could we have
won
1:56:51
without immigration absolutely
not
1:56:52
the reality of it is that those
three
1:56:55
big forces that I talked about
created
1:56:57
the conditions in which we
could win but
1:56:59
then you had the government
making a
1:57:01
series of big mistakes and you
had our
1:57:04
team which which managed to
exploit it
1:57:05
and their mistakes essentially
were
1:57:07
their renegotiation was a
disaster
1:57:09
unlike inmate 75 when Wilson
pulled the
1:57:12
same trick there he persuaded
people
1:57:14
that the relationship had
changed and
1:57:16
therefore the polls moved this
time no
1:57:18
one believed what come and came
back
1:57:19
with and in particular
1:57:21
Cameron never understood the
danger for
1:57:23
him of coming back and saying
1:57:25
essentially nothing had changed
on
1:57:26
immigration they also I think
run it by
1:57:29
campaign they relied on people
or M&C
1:57:31
Saatchi and various big
advertising
1:57:33
agencies who did a fairly
rubbish job
1:57:36
and they and they lived in the
bubble
1:57:39
and you could see that in the
last 10
1:57:40
days after the terrible murder
they
1:57:43
essentially chained ditched
their whole
1:57:46
campaign and stopped talking
about
1:57:48
economic risks and turned the
whole
1:57:50
thing just into a wig the good
people
1:57:52
and your the bad people because
that was
1:57:54
the self-reinforcing culture
that you
1:57:56
heard in London whereas in fact
as soon
1:57:58
as you went outside the m25 and
did
1:58:00
market research the rest the
country had
1:58:01
a totally different reaction to
the
1:58:02
murder then then then people
better
1:58:06
educated which of people living
in
1:58:07
London did so without the fear
of the
1:58:10
immigrant fear without the NHS
fear that
1:58:14
you'll be paying 350 million
extra a
1:58:16
week or whatever it was in your
health
1:58:18
care it never would have worked
but they
1:58:21
also completely misjudged the
Joe Cox
1:58:23
murder and to wind it up he's
going to
1:58:25
shoot a big middle finger to
the media
1:58:28
the people who are supposed to
know
1:58:29
better and know how these
things work
1:58:31
and our campaign took a bunch
of it we
1:58:33
know we operated on we're just
on very
1:58:35
very simple tried and tested
rules
1:58:37
that work about organizations
we kept
1:58:39
the end piece out of all
management no
1:58:41
MP had anything to do with the
1:58:42
management of the campaign it
was run by
1:58:43
about six or ten people the
oldest of
1:58:46
which was made youngest of whom
was 21
1:58:48
so we kept this team small they
worked
1:58:51
extremely hard they made a lot
of
1:58:52
sacrifices and they focused on
the
1:58:54
public not on the media and not
on the
1:58:57
insider on the insider game I
think in
1:59:01
the long run some of the things
that we
1:59:03
try to do you can see all the
parties
1:59:06
now are trying to learn from
authorized
1:59:08
are trying to learn from some
of the
1:59:09
things that we did I don't
think that
1:59:12
we've done a very good job wise
with
1:59:13
them in the last
1:59:14
Muskaan pain the reality is the
most
1:59:17
communications companies are
populated
1:59:19
by bullshitting charlatans most
of them
1:59:23
should be fired and I think
that in the
1:59:25
next ten years of massive chunk
of them
1:59:27
will be fired and people are
still
1:59:29
looking valley and others will
1:59:30
increasingly take over this
industry the
1:59:32
way they've taken over other
industries
1:59:34
and if you've got a not very
good degree
1:59:36
in English or Gender Studies or
1:59:37
something like that then you're
very
1:59:39
rapidly going to get I think
you're
1:59:41
gonna get fired and the
industry will go
1:59:42
through the kind of change that
other
1:59:44
industries have seen there you
go yeah
1:59:52
get a degree in gender studies
that's
1:59:55
really a winner
1:59:56
well that was interesting I
think
1:59:58
there's a little long yeah it
was but I
2:00:00
think some people may have been
bored I
2:00:01
liked it because I'm interested
in this
2:00:03
stuff to an extreme yes and why
I think
2:00:07
it was important to do it a
little
2:00:09
longer is that if we watch this
movie
2:00:11
Monday I wonder how much of the
truth of
2:00:13
what he really did comes back
into the
2:00:16
creative product probably none
I think
2:00:19
he got Facebook information and
then you
2:00:22
did it proper none none
probably none
2:00:28
this is movie it's a piece of
propaganda
2:00:30
obviously it's designed for
exactly what
2:00:33
you said I definitely want to
watch it
2:00:35
and it will probably have some
effect
2:00:38
but you know this constant
hounding and
2:00:41
hounding by the medium and easy
they
2:00:43
can't really be overlooked even
though
2:00:45
he thinks that you know these
guys are a
2:00:46
bunch of screw-ups but it can't
be
2:00:49
overlooked about how
2:00:50
never-ending hounding and
hounding at me
2:00:52
when you go to the bank T of
the day and
2:00:54
like one of the tellers is
depressed and
2:00:56
you know she thinks that
world's coming
2:00:58
to an end and all the rest of us
2:00:59
watching the news and news she's
2:01:01
watching the network news and
it's just
2:01:03
not a healthy environment for
most
2:01:06
people but the conundrums day
off of TV
2:01:08
I mean so we're not the only
people
2:01:11
seeing this there's no there's
people in
2:01:12
Washington DC and other
political power
2:01:15
and they see this and so here's
the
2:01:17
conundrum do we all go out and
hire this
2:01:21
guy or guys like him and dive
into this
2:01:24
or do we see the danger and
that anyone
2:01:28
could do this and do we need to
regulate
2:01:30
it nothing to regulate it but
just
2:01:34
targeted advertising is oh it's
just a
2:01:36
form oh I know I know but you
got to put
2:01:39
yourself into a moronic no
one's gonna
2:01:42
do anything about it no but
they will
2:01:45
try well they're just wasting
time they
2:01:48
should probably learn from the
guy yeah
2:01:54
I'm always surprised it's just
the same
2:01:56
way he got to repeat them the
right
2:01:58
message over and over and over
again to
2:02:02
the right people yeah but so
what else
2:02:04
is new
2:02:05
the guy just found the people
2:02:07
try to use the new methodology
to find
2:02:09
the people yeah I mean that's
what these
2:02:11
two marketing people have
always been
2:02:13
doing all their lives is from
the
2:02:16
beginning of the idea to the
answer the
2:02:18
most recent they're just trying
to find
2:02:19
these people that's why
Facebook is so
2:02:21
appealing because they claim
they've got
2:02:23
a key to the kingdom they got a
way of
2:02:25
finding the people you're
looking for
2:02:27
you're looking for this person
because
2:02:28
this person wants to buy your
product we
2:02:31
have them right here in this
little box
2:02:33
I am so happy we don't have to
do that
2:02:39
no we know what I actually
enjoy about
2:02:42
this show is that our audiences
2:02:44
everybody in fact we did a meet
up on
2:02:47
first tell me about the minute
yes says
2:02:49
this is boots on the ground for
me you
2:02:53
got we had about 32 to 37
people show up
2:02:56
which was a lot cuz it was a
flash
2:02:58
meetup we just threw it
together in the
2:03:00
last minute how many people
about 37 not
2:03:03
bad for a flash no not bad not
bad it's
2:03:06
very good actually and it was
all you
2:03:10
know the to classic no agenda
Maven's a
2:03:12
little different slightly
different and
2:03:15
that there were a little more
academics
2:03:17
I think then for example in
Seattle
2:03:19
there's very few I mean by
academics I
2:03:22
don't mean their professors I
mean they
2:03:24
work at the University there's
a at
2:03:27
least two or maybe three
librarians
2:03:29
there Oh including some
interesting ones
2:03:33
do they have do they go stop
stop stop
2:03:36
do they have a hair in a bun
and glasses
2:03:39
that they could then undo the
bar oh oh
2:03:41
well do they have a bun hello
buns the
2:03:47
place okay you know I used to
be a
2:03:50
spokesperson for the American
Library
2:03:53
Association give us your pitch
I don't
2:03:58
remember they use my picture on
posters
2:04:00
I was more of a poster boy I
wasn't the
2:04:02
spokesperson I was a poster boy
2:04:04
literally pretty face yep it
was a good
2:04:08
group I learned a lot I got some
2:04:10
interesting little tidbits
which I'll
2:04:11
bring into the show I don't
have today I
2:04:13
didn't bring there the the
contributions
2:04:16
in the prescribed envelope are
still in
2:04:20
a in a big processing with him
I'm gonna
2:04:22
put him in a Thursday show did
he take
2:04:24
him home again
2:04:26
sorry didn't mean me take the
envelope
2:04:28
home no there's no it's a bunch
of
2:04:31
envelopes you want your
envelope just
2:04:32
kidding and their invite my
back pocket
2:04:34
that's what immediately go and
they get
2:04:36
fair process processed but it
was a good
2:04:41
group and it was good places
Gilman
2:04:44
breweries a kind of a Belgian
beer house
2:04:46
Moriah house and as they make
2:04:48
interesting products including
a lager
2:04:50
that's quite tasty anyway was
but this
2:04:54
is we need to do more of these
but you
2:04:55
can't I did have one guy which
I led a
2:05:00
sea was there and JC could talk
to talk
2:05:03
when it comes to this sort of
thing this
2:05:04
guy is Polish big guy and he's
going on
2:05:08
he's a troubleshooter for a
bunch of
2:05:10
Silicon Valley operations right
now
2:05:12
looking for work and he's given
greeting
2:05:14
me the riot act about how the
Silicon
2:05:17
Valley is turned into a bunch
of left
2:05:18
wingers and this has to do with
agile
2:05:20
the reason the style of work
that you
2:05:26
were selling a lot of oh my
explain this
2:05:28
agile what is this agile is I
just in a
2:05:31
nutshell is where you bullshit
you're
2:05:33
everybody's bullshitting each
other so
2:05:35
there's no oh you fake it till
you make
2:05:37
it nothing ever gets done and
he's got
2:05:41
this theory that this creates a
lying
2:05:43
environment which is called
which is fit
2:05:46
for the lefties there's a long
story but
2:05:49
he wants us to cover this more
he goes
2:05:50
you're not talking about how
terrible it
2:05:53
isn't Silicon Valley how they
all become
2:05:55
left wingers I said well when I
was a
2:05:56
kid they were all right wingers
and he
2:05:58
says you should cover that more
and I
2:05:59
tried to say to him and I'm
gonna say it
2:06:01
to everybody else who tries to
do this
2:06:03
to do certain things we
deconstruct the
2:06:06
news but now we don't initiate
coverage
2:06:10
unless there's something that
initiates
2:06:11
it for us I mean we have out of
the blue
2:06:14
come up with a couple of little
things
2:06:16
that look like we initiated but
in fact
2:06:18
it comes from information that
we're
2:06:19
deconstructing and it's and
there's
2:06:21
nothing to deconstruct here
2:06:23
Silicon Valley is just a bunch
of
2:06:25
a-holes oh hey well done you
nailed it
2:06:29
yeah it's very hard to get
people to
2:06:34
realize we're not investigative
2:06:37
reporters
2:06:38
we're not you know we are D
2:06:41
constructionists period and
that's what
2:06:44
we do and if there's nothing to
2:06:45
deconstruct there's nothing for
us to
2:06:48
talk about but there's plenty to
2:06:49
deconstruct let alone start
making stuff
2:06:51
up so you know you should talk
to my son
2:06:55
and so I JC over there who
could talk
2:06:58
for days about management in
Silicon
2:07:01
Valley Oh better that was that
I put him
2:07:04
over there and the hour later
is still
2:07:05
there you know he's this guy's
was funny
2:07:08
to watch it's like a
heavyweight boxing
2:07:10
champ did you talk to anyone
else was
2:07:12
there any it was not do a lot
of people
2:07:13
I didn't talk to that guy that
much
2:07:14
because I I couldn't keep
hearing this I
2:07:17
talk to everybody out there
wasn't maybe
2:07:20
one or two people choices a guy
could
2:07:22
keep talked about football with
a guy
2:07:24
from Alabama and his girlfriend
are
2:07:26
moving in Arizona eventually I
talked I
2:07:27
talked about it it was very it
was a
2:07:29
great meet of lots of good shit
2:07:31
conversations good I remember
22nd of
2:07:35
February is the Boise Idaho and
I'm
2:07:38
Boise Idaho the Des Moines Iowa
Meetup
2:07:40
there's a desk would people
have been
2:07:42
pestering me about 22nd of
February yes
2:07:46
yes we want to go to it hello
it's
2:07:50
because we're there that
there's a
2:07:51
meet-up okay yeah that's my
second we're
2:07:55
actually flying in early to do
the
2:07:57
meetup that's uh I think it's
trill to
2:07:59
pack them in I have no idea how
many
2:08:01
producers we have in the
Midwest no idea
2:08:05
you know come in from Chicago
yeah they
2:08:08
might they might and Milwaukee
so lots
2:08:11
of time to plan for that and
actually we
2:08:12
had dinner with uh with marks
or mark
2:08:15
the art a staff documentary and
last
2:08:18
night he's all jacked about
Mark Hall
2:08:22
he's all mark jacked about the
Texas
2:08:24
Meetup which is still in the
works
2:08:26
people stay tuned it's coming I
promise
2:08:27
you no agenda imagine all the
people who
2:08:33
could do is awesome oh yeah
2:08:41
and I should measure the dude
or one of
2:08:44
our dudes named Mohammed was at
the idea
2:08:47
did he have his headgear on no
so let's
2:08:52
thank a few people we don't
have that
2:08:53
many on this list today but
let's start
2:08:55
with Joseph Costello in Pittston
2:08:56
Pennsylvania he's starting a
Dame
2:08:59
account for his lovely wife
Mary she
2:09:05
used to tolerate by listening
to the
2:09:07
show but has become a true fan
we had a
2:09:11
lot of anecdotal stories about
that sort
2:09:13
of thing good to me well these
are this
2:09:15
is the times when these things
happen
2:09:17
where people turn
2:09:19
yeah yep her blam $110 intended
that was
2:09:24
a 100 Levin dollars Levin
census her
2:09:25
blam $110 sir her blam to you
110
2:09:29
dollars and 10 cents or her
Blandy by
2:09:31
he's the by count of Georgia
yes sir
2:09:34
Austin of the snowy Cascades
110 dollars
2:09:37
and 10 cents and Sammamish
Washington
2:09:39
and he says he'd like Karma for
his wife
2:09:42
Laura big big week next week
for her in
2:09:44
job search with multiple
interviews yes
2:09:46
coming up for her Jonathan has
110
2:09:50
dollars in deutschland although
George
2:09:51
saw pests SS Rick Cable $100
now he
2:09:58
wants karma for his son Matt
Cable who's
2:10:00
deploying overseas this week for
2:10:02
seven-month deployment
2:10:04
and put Dan hey listen he says
his son
2:10:08
Matt was actually on the rocks
new
2:10:09
fitness challenge show Titan II
Ames
2:10:13
yeah we got that guy to those
challenge
2:10:21
those are tough guys it's no
joke
2:10:24
alright karma coming up for him
of
2:10:26
course those shows are meant to
2:10:27
humiliate these people I'm not
mad Dane
2:10:31
Coleman 8205 he's gonna be a
knight he's
2:10:36
gonna be the knight at night
today you
2:10:37
know when you read his notes
since he's
2:10:39
becoming a knight today I
become a
2:10:40
knight of the nodes in a
roundtable the
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show has been a consistent and
2:10:43
significant part of my life for
the
2:10:45
better part of my 20s and into
my 30s
2:10:47
helping me to laugh at the news
think
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critically and maintain reason
and
2:10:51
response in this age of
political
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poppycock and climate
fear-mongering I'd
2:10:56
like to be known as Sir Dane
the great
2:10:58
and I'm requesting Highlander
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2:11:03
let me make sure I order that
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there and requesting small
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I'm
2:11:25
putting your request at the
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speak so he's actually named is
put his
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2:12:01
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2:12:02
I'm out in very good and for
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2:12:06
when you and I should tell this
to
2:12:07
people when you're saying these
Dutch
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that's where I think he's from
that's
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where the bank is ah
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the address is never on the
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okay
2:15:21
mmm Oh what do we got I got a
couple
2:15:23
things I was hoping you would
have yeah
2:15:28
here's some reports from that
we don't
2:15:30
get in the United States at all
I don't
2:15:31
know why this one doesn't get
some play
2:15:33
but let's play killing mayor's
in Mexico
2:15:36
yes it's a nuisance killing him
it's a
2:15:39
new sport in Mexico human
rights groups
2:15:41
and family members are
demanding justice
2:15:43
after the mayor of a town in the
2:15:44
southern state of Oaxaca was
gunned down
2:15:46
New Year's Day just hours after
taking
2:15:48
office alejandro Aparicio was
surrounded
2:15:52
by supporters and publicly
touring city
2:15:54
offices when he was shot on the
street
2:15:56
the gunman was pinned to the
ground
2:15:58
until police could arrive to
arrest him
2:16:00
he's been described as a 34
year old
2:16:02
former police officer from
northern
2:16:04
Mexico a Padilla's Widow
Victoria
2:16:07
fethiye believes the killer and
not did
2:16:10
not act on his own but I guess
we want
2:16:15
to do everything possible to
clarify
2:16:17
this murder because there can
be no
2:16:18
impunity that is what we are
asking for
2:16:21
as a family here to clarify the
killing
2:16:23
and to support us Padilla was a
member
2:16:26
of the Progressive Party of
Mexican
2:16:28
President Andres Manuel Lopez
Obrador
2:16:29
his death came as human rights
2:16:31
researchers said 175 Mexican
politicians
2:16:35
were killed over a 12-month
period
2:16:36
ending last August geez
dropping like
2:16:40
flies way to go man you ever
run in our
2:16:42
country yeah I don't know why
just
2:16:46
didn't get more play because I
had a lot
2:16:47
of fun with it I only have a
very short
2:16:49
report from the Canadian
Broadcasting
2:16:50
Company on the German hack oh
yes
2:16:53
there's very little there's some
2:16:54
European reporting that I
picked up I'm
2:16:56
glad you have a clip in Germany
hundreds
2:16:58
of politicians that all levels
of
2:16:59
government have been hit by a
massive
2:17:01
data breach it reportedly
includes
2:17:04
addresses cell phone numbers
credit card
2:17:06
details internal communications
at least
2:17:09
some of it was leaked through
Twitter we
2:17:11
don't know who's behind the
breach but
2:17:13
officials say all but one party
was
2:17:15
specifically targeted now let's
just
2:17:18
stop for a second here which is
the
2:17:21
party that wasn't targeted the
AFD okay
2:17:25
yeah it's the you know the new
guys the
2:17:28
Trump guys basically the the
model to
2:17:31
make the magaz that make
Germany great
2:17:33
again people
2:17:34
the alternate even feared
Deutschland
2:17:36
AFD but it wasn't just
politician was
2:17:38
also celebreties there's all
kinds of
2:17:41
stuff in here and it's from
cloud
2:17:43
accounts it's not just from in
fact
2:17:46
Thank You cloud yes yeah it
seems like
2:17:51
it seems like there's some good
stuff
2:17:53
out there you know this if
anybody we
2:17:57
have a lot of dues they've been
if
2:17:58
anyone can get us a I'm sure I
don't
2:18:01
know what the size of this file
is but
2:18:03
I'd sure like to take a look at
this
2:18:04
stuff
2:18:05
yeah how about this dark
overlord thing
2:18:08
though this is not getting a
lot of play
2:18:10
but I'm seeing people getting
very
2:18:12
worried about this this is the
this is
2:18:17
the group the dark overlord who
are New
2:18:21
Year's Eve says hey we have
18,000
2:18:23
documents related to September
11 2001
2:18:26
terrorist attacks in particular
2:18:29
documentation about the
insurance
2:18:32
policies of I guess the World
Trade
2:18:35
Center all dealing guy who
bought it who
2:18:38
bought the Trade Center like if
not so
2:18:41
long before that collapses yeah
was
2:18:43
silverstein it was well known
they took
2:18:45
out these big insurance
policies just
2:18:47
before the thing was leveled
well so
2:18:49
they're slowly releasing pieces
of
2:18:51
information which nothing
2:18:53
earth-shattering yet but it
does seem
2:18:55
like people in Washington are
worried
2:18:57
about this I'm not quite sure
why what
2:19:00
do they have to hide there must
be
2:19:02
something there must be
something
2:19:04
worried about and they say pay
the eff
2:19:06
up or we're going to bury you
in this as
2:19:09
the dark Overlord group or the
dark
2:19:11
Overlord person and money's he
asking me
2:19:15
for I don't think he's asking
for money
2:19:17
as a toy he's asking for money
they what
2:19:20
are they doing
2:19:22
yeah however you'll be paying
us yeah so
2:19:24
he wants to be paid or they
want to be
2:19:27
paid I guess they've released
some
2:19:28
decryption keys which do unlock
some
2:19:32
some documents they have some
proof
2:19:35
yeah well this the same with
the tribune
2:19:39
company that was it that was a
total
2:19:40
ransomware problem they ran
into yeah
2:19:42
that was recent yeah yeah I
said the
2:19:45
ransomware thing was over I
thought
2:19:46
people had protections against
that I
2:19:48
think I'm over some your scheme
no oh
2:19:52
and then this obvious one
2:20:07
this is Russia's word against
Whelan and
2:20:10
Whelan's family this is the
American
2:20:12
Whalen whe LAN who has been
detained in
2:20:15
Russia as a spies word Russia
say that
2:20:18
he was caught red-handed in the
act of
2:20:19
espionage and Whelan's family
insist he
2:20:22
was just there for a wedding
2:20:23
Raina's lawyer is not seeking
bail and
2:20:26
Russian courts have till the
24th to
2:20:28
decide Russian media is also
claiming
2:20:30
now that Whalen spent the last
decade
2:20:32
developing a network of
contacts in
2:20:34
Russia using social media
leading up to
2:20:36
his arrest last week supposedly
with a
2:20:38
flash drive containing a list of
2:20:40
employees from a secret russian
2:20:42
department Whalen's family says
he just
2:20:45
loves traveling he loves Russia
he was
2:20:47
helping to arrange a friend's
wedding
2:20:48
much remains unknown about
Whalen who
2:20:51
lives in this house in Michigan
it's
2:20:53
emerged that he is also a
Canadian
2:20:55
citizen as British citizen
possibly an
2:20:57
Irish citizen and today the
British
2:21:00
Foreign Minister also spoke out
I'm
2:21:04
telling you you got four
passports you
2:21:07
know I love the cover
2:21:09
I talked to agent orange about
this the
2:21:11
cover of him having an honorable
2:21:13
discharge from the military
total cover
2:21:16
this guy is a spook duh hello
is this
2:21:20
like questions of all what does
oh and
2:21:23
of course it's retaliation for
locking
2:21:26
up the Russian spy yes McMartin
Betina
2:21:29
what's her name yeah I can't
remember
2:21:31
her name yeah because they're
not
2:21:33
registered agents you have to
understand
2:21:35
in the intelligence game you
have
2:21:36
registered agents if you're an
agent for
2:21:38
another country which usually
means
2:21:40
you're just paying off people
with money
2:21:41
it's called lobbying in America
you're a
2:21:43
spy and you register me at
diplomat spy
2:21:48
diplomats by same thing and if
you don't
2:21:51
if you're not registered in
every
2:21:53
country as unregistered agents
in each
2:21:55
other's countries you get
caught yeah or
2:21:56
that's pretty much they're
known to be
2:21:58
agents you take one of ours
good want to
2:22:00
take one of yours I think the
difference
2:22:02
is the FSB will actually tell
everyone
2:22:05
what this guy did we don't even
we don't
2:22:09
have anything on Bettina other
than whoa
2:22:11
she was lobbying truce Leo
nobody know
2:22:14
what she did that's one of the
reasons
2:22:16
this is one of the funny bits
about it
2:22:18
so yes and no agenda confirms
the guy's
2:22:22
got to be a spook course for
passports
2:22:27
huh
2:22:28
you know why he's just that
passport
2:22:29
hobbyist I want to see how many
2:22:32
countries I can become get a
passport
2:22:35
that's my job that's what I do
you
2:22:37
really I mean so he you know if
you have
2:22:39
a it's not easy to get multiple
2:22:41
passports as a US citizen they
do
2:22:43
complain you know
2:22:45
they're like what you want to
be a US
2:22:47
citizen or something else well
in my
2:22:49
daughter's case my mom's Dutch
okay will
2:22:51
allow that then you know what I
had four
2:22:55
different countries hmm no no
no that's
2:22:59
all we know of he may have other
2:23:01
passports buried somewhere
2:23:04
you just don't know yes all
right I
2:23:07
don't have a clip on that I
just thought
2:23:09
it would be worth discussing I
do have
2:23:11
some more other weird stuff
that is not
2:23:12
being discussed all we do have
the flu
2:23:15
season thing get happening it's
not
2:23:16
being promoted as much in this
country
2:23:18
but apparently this last this
batch of
2:23:21
the flu has already killed a
few people
2:23:22
but in Canada they're all
freaked out
2:23:24
because it got off to an early
start and
2:23:26
started spreading before any we
could do
2:23:28
much about so let's play our
gratuitous
2:23:31
and probably yearly flu season
clip
2:23:34
shaping up to be a particularly
brutal
2:23:37
flu season in Canada now of
course the
2:23:40
flu can be more than just
unpleasant it
2:23:42
can be dangerous and even
deadly well
2:23:44
new numbers are out today and
the number
2:23:46
of cases has gone through the
roof and
2:23:49
one particular strain is doing
most of
2:23:51
the damage so far this flu
season there
2:23:55
have been more than 13,000 lab
confirmed
2:23:58
cases in Canada 11,000 of those
were
2:24:01
variations of influenza A with
h1n1 as
2:24:04
the dominant strain it's a big
jump in
2:24:07
cases nearly 50% over this time
last
2:24:09
year with about two-thirds of
them
2:24:11
hitting young otherwise healthy
adults
2:24:14
those people who might not
think they're
2:24:16
particularly vulnerable but
that's how
2:24:18
h1n1 tends to operate already I
mean
2:24:21
isn't this the swine flu h1n1
is swine
2:24:26
flu I think h1n1 is wine flu
but it's
2:24:29
not but it's not version a um I
think if
2:24:35
it is anything close to swine
flu they
2:24:37
always call it swine flu hmm I
don't
2:24:40
know now as you mention it
you're right
2:24:42
24 Canadians have died now
health
2:24:45
officials say it's not too late
to get
2:24:48
the flu shot
2:24:49
far from it they're still
months left in
2:24:50
the season and what's more this
year's
2:24:52
vaccine is proving more
effective than
2:24:54
in years past now it's the bird
flu h1n1
2:24:56
is the bird flu in five was the
bird flu
2:25:01
okay kid let's figure out as
cowspiracy
2:25:03
tells us that is welcome news
for those
2:25:06
who've been devastated by the
virus in
2:25:08
the worst possible way there's
- with
2:25:12
this crackers not swine flu the
flu
2:25:13
season is an unusually painful
time of
2:25:17
the year for Jill Primeau Leigh
in 2016
2:25:20
her little boy Jude died from
the flu
2:25:23
even though he'd been
vaccinated a few
2:25:25
months earlier so when we get
to this
2:25:27
point every year it's it's
stressful all
2:25:29
over again and and just really
sad
2:25:31
because I know there are going
to be
2:25:33
thousands of more families like
mine
2:25:34
where people are going to lose
their
2:25:36
lives and their loved ones from
this
2:25:38
preventable disease health
officials
2:25:40
have said it's rare for people
to die
2:25:42
from infectious diseases
they've been
2:25:45
vaccinated against it is the
swine flu
2:25:48
yeah h1n1 is the swine flu
2:25:55
I'd know laid the jig well this
is
2:25:58
Canada so they're not pushing
that debt
2:26:00
meme and maybe that has
something to do
2:26:03
it bird flu h5n1 yeah I
remember getting
2:26:06
swine flu when I was in San
Francisco
2:26:10
would it cost I just remember
being in
2:26:15
bed for a couple days I stopped
smoking
2:26:17
and that was good I'm still
hearing am a
2:26:21
flu No
2:26:23
no I even knew you at the time
he hadn't
2:26:25
even didn't even offer to each
let me
2:26:26
suffer oh it's funny I don't
remember
2:26:34
this this is a new story
micro-services
2:26:37
architecture moving right along
your
2:26:40
speciality your beat my
complaint your
2:26:44
complaint but also your betta is
2:26:45
CenturyLink the CenturyLink 911
call
2:26:50
outage did you look into this
did you
2:26:53
find out what this was yeah it
was a
2:26:55
network at some sort of network
card
2:26:57
that blew up it was just a
hardware
2:26:59
failure Oh like with anything
else in a
2:27:02
microservices architected
environment
2:27:04
one thing goes out there's more
than one
2:27:06
or two single points of failure
and that
2:27:09
I mean it doesn't have to be
you can
2:27:11
have redundancy if you were no
no why
2:27:14
bother I was able to ever
happen to the
2:27:17
checksum what happened to CRC
there were
2:27:20
all these things that used to
have
2:27:21
memories I remember when the
IBM PC came
2:27:23
out they'd have a you could buy
cheap
2:27:24
memory which had all the bits
and then
2:27:26
there was a more expensive
memory they
2:27:28
had to load a little extra chip
a parody
2:27:32
chip to make sure that the
memory was
2:27:34
doing its thing and it was
accurate you
2:27:36
had the parity chip cause too
much where
2:27:40
they don't even work 90% of the
time who
2:27:42
cares we don't oh I didn't know
anything
2:27:43
about this what is this magical
chip do
2:27:47
the magical chip I think it
could
2:27:49
maintain I'm not sure anymore I
used to
2:27:52
know but I think it maintains
some like
2:27:54
a checksum value for the wood
was in the
2:27:56
memory itself and if that and
it would
2:27:58
check against it right and if
it got a
2:28:02
different hash or a different
check saw
2:28:04
something and it would said I
know
2:28:06
there's no good memories gone
bad and
2:28:08
that we don't have that anymore
there's
2:28:10
no reason for it because it's
like the
2:28:11
failure rate is so low right
with the
2:28:14
way things are that you don't
care and
2:28:16
so you just let this thing
slide and I
2:28:18
think that's what happened with
this
2:28:19
instead of having a backup a
redundant a
2:28:21
network card I'm pretty sure it
does
2:28:23
what it was when I read yes I
was able
2:28:30
to find a clip with someone in
charge
2:28:32
over there at CenturyLink for
the first
2:28:34
time since this outage I was
able to
2:28:36
talk to someone from
CenturyLink on
2:28:37
camera just a short time ago
the bottom
2:28:40
line here is that well yes this
system
2:28:43
is back up and running they
still don't
2:28:46
know exactly what went wrong
and they're
2:28:48
trying to figure that out what
are you
2:28:50
doing to make sure something
like this
2:28:51
doesn't happen again it's a
great
2:28:53
question we feel very confident
the
2:28:58
system is stable it's up and
running we
2:29:00
don't anticipate any issues
days after a
2:29:02
911 in Washington caused 4,500
calls to
2:29:06
fail
2:29:07
CenturyLink that
telecommunications
2:29:09
company responsible says they're
2:29:11
narrowing in on the problem but
still
2:29:13
can't tell us exactly what
caused that
2:29:15
six-hour failure they know the
outage
2:29:18
was due to a technical error in
a
2:29:20
third-party vendors call router
but when
2:29:23
I asked what that technical
error was
2:29:25
they said they don't know so
right now
2:29:28
we need to break down every
point of
2:29:30
contact between the 911 1
Center in
2:29:33
Washington or centers and the
center of
2:29:35
CenturyLink data centers as
well to make
2:29:37
sure we've exactly found the
reason for
2:29:39
the outage and how are we going
to fix
2:29:40
it prevent it in the future
2:29:42
the Washington emergency
management
2:29:43
division believes the 911
system is
2:29:45
stable now
2:29:47
but it still wants assurances
from
2:29:49
Century Lake something like
this won't
2:29:51
happen again the thing about
this clip
2:29:54
from 2014
2:29:57
haha and they were fine sixteen
million
2:30:01
dollars for it
2:30:04
no one told you that huh second
time
2:30:07
this has happened with these
guys this
2:30:09
is the problem with this
architect this
2:30:11
micro-services architecture and
he is
2:30:13
probably right I mean I don't
see how
2:30:15
you get the thing back online
without
2:30:16
knowing what cost but I just
can't
2:30:17
believe that this is from 2014
and now
2:30:20
we're five years later and it
happens
2:30:22
again exact same thing I'm sure
it is
2:30:25
the exact same thing
2:30:27
yeah yeah as a single point of
failure
2:30:29
that failed again again for
five years
2:30:34
five years and it stops working
I mean
2:30:36
this happens if anyone has had a
2:30:37
computer nowadays we start to
see the
2:30:40
evidence of this of this
hardware issues
2:30:43
in the environment because when
when in
2:30:47
this late 70s 8 and throughout
the
2:30:49
entire 80s and then probably
half of the
2:30:51
90s we were buying brand-new
computers
2:30:55
at the rate of about one every
year and
2:30:58
a half so if you had a computer
you had
2:31:01
to get a new one every year and
a half
2:31:02
to two years two years is
really keeping
2:31:04
an old clunker alive right
because of
2:31:07
all these new drivers and the
new
2:31:08
peripherals and all these other
things
2:31:09
you're buying and the new chips
made a
2:31:11
difference so you were buying
in the 80s
2:31:14
for sure you are buying a new
computer
2:31:16
every year and a half but since
most
2:31:19
recently we don't if the
failure you
2:31:22
know there's nothing happening
that's so
2:31:24
important that we got to get a
new
2:31:26
computers the same old
Microsoft Office
2:31:28
it's the same old Intel chips
you know
2:31:31
you don't need to do any so you
keep the
2:31:33
machines longer and now we're
starting
2:31:35
to see that they do crap out
after about
2:31:37
five years most computers if
you have
2:31:40
one old five year old computer
the
2:31:42
likelihood of it blowing up is
pretty
2:31:44
high and we're seeing actually
exploding
2:31:47
a real kinetic event it actually
2:31:50
happened wasn't one of mine
capacitor
2:31:53
blew up and it sounds like a
bomb one
2:31:55
that's got a cap going we'll do
it for
2:31:57
you yeah that'll but the point
is is
2:31:59
that these machines don't last
forever
2:32:02
no and I think apples gonna
start
2:32:05
putting more of that not
lasting forever
2:32:07
into their new devices because
I got to
2:32:09
do something
2:32:10
I gotta get people upgrading
well
2:32:13
they're so slacked on the Mac
they don't
2:32:16
want to really they're not
doing enough
2:32:18
work there so they're not
selling enough
2:32:20
and they but they I think with
their
2:32:22
iPhone it just breaks
constantly I think
2:32:25
mode I don't know anyone
without a
2:32:26
broken one well you mean the
glass yeah
2:32:29
yeah that's that's the weakest
part
2:32:33
or that's really their their
main thing
2:32:35
that's but I'm you know I'm
around a lot
2:32:38
of Millennials lately certainly
in the
2:32:40
Christmas break
2:32:40
they all got crack screens they
don't
2:32:43
care yeah they're not not
replacing
2:32:45
magma greens cracked
2:32:46
maybe I'll go and get it fixed
maybe not
2:32:48
as long as they can still see
it it's
2:32:52
just too expensive can't afford
it
2:32:57
I don't know and the next phone
I'm
2:32:58
getting cuz my phone is finally
getting
2:33:00
pretty yeah which one do you
have I
2:33:02
still have a Nexus galaxy nice
and the
2:33:06
cool thing about is you could
take the
2:33:08
back off and change the battery
yes
2:33:11
but I think I'm gonna get a
wall way why
2:33:14
don't you just go for the East
71 the
2:33:15
Nokia like I have
2:33:20
it fits your image I think I
already
2:33:23
have one you probably do I have
an
2:33:26
original it's such a good phone
that was
2:33:29
a good phone in this day it's
still a
2:33:31
great phone yeah it's got a nice
2:33:33
keyboard it's got a great
keyboard we
2:33:36
can go on like this forever
2:33:38
this is if I've tried nice
finish is
2:33:40
pretty it does
2:33:42
I dropped it the other day
stepping out
2:33:43
of the truck yeah yeah nothing
2:33:46
you had no the moment that all
you got
2:33:50
but you had instance in your
past where
2:33:54
you dropped him phone in the
toilet that
2:33:56
was the very first iPhone
2:33:59
that was the first I've 80-71
at the
2:34:01
toilet you think it would
survive hell
2:34:02
yeah I don't know with those
buttons and
2:34:05
the mechanics and oh yeah I've
dropped
2:34:07
t---seventy ones in the toilet
before
2:34:09
I've dropped it in all kinds of
stuff
2:34:10
it's an indestructible phone
you know
2:34:13
the the Symbian OS has been
open sourced
2:34:16
someone could totally rejigger
that for
2:34:19
for all kinds of different
hardware I
2:34:21
don't know why somebody hasn't
yeah
2:34:26
I used to write columns about
this you
2:34:28
know when there's somebody
abandons
2:34:29
things sometimes they you know
sometimes
2:34:32
they can sometimes they can I
mean with
2:34:33
the os/2 always thought should
have been
2:34:35
put into the public domain by
IBM but
2:34:38
apparently some you know the
problem
2:34:40
with doing that there's some
stuff that
2:34:41
probably was like maybe
shouldn't be in
2:34:43
there and anyone anyone seeing
it who
2:34:45
knows but I think if you
abandon a
2:34:50
product I think you should push
it into
2:34:53
the public domain because a lot
of
2:34:54
people may have been reliant on
the
2:34:56
product yeah Microsoft is doing
a lot of
2:34:58
that actually
2:35:00
there there you know a lot of
their
2:35:02
older stuff they're open
sourcing dass
2:35:04
sakes I tell me Microsoft will
run on
2:35:08
Linux in our lifetime windows
2:35:11
it'll be Windows on top of
Linux I'm
2:35:13
telling you it's coming it's
coming
2:35:15
possible a quick look in this
is now act
2:35:19
8 of the yellow vests in fancy
to keep
2:35:24
up with over the weekend it has
yeah
2:35:26
it's not the same amount of
people it's
2:35:28
only 50,000 across the country
the
2:35:30
majority at the inn in Paris
it's the
2:35:33
yellow vest movements first
round of
2:35:35
protests in 2019 and many say
they're
2:35:37
determined to continue all year
on
2:35:40
Saturday at least 50,000
protesters came
2:35:42
out across France for the 8th
straight
2:35:44
week of demonstrations though
the
2:35:46
protests remain largely
peaceful in the
2:35:48
morning clashes with
authorities broke
2:35:50
out in multiple cities early on
into the
2:35:52
evening in central Paris riders
torched
2:35:54
cars and set barricades on fire
2:35:56
elsewhere in the capital
protesters
2:35:58
launched projectiles at police
officers
2:36:00
responded with tear gas
2:36:01
now you remember Mac wrong in
his New
2:36:03
Year's address we played the
clip he
2:36:05
said oh these are just the
people who
2:36:07
hate the Jews they hate the
LGBT they
2:36:09
just hate this is horrible
haters though
2:36:11
the scale of the protests has
decreased
2:36:13
in reason did you like my Mac
Ron was
2:36:15
pretty good about continued
mobilizing
2:36:20
saying the government's recent
2:36:21
concessions are not enough
2:36:23
we've been tightening our belts
for 15
2:36:26
20 years we've had enough we're
still in
2:36:28
an era of nobles and serfs in
2019 we've
2:36:31
had enough of being dragged
around by
2:36:33
those in power who looks down
on us they
2:36:35
look down on the people who
trampled all
2:36:37
over us of Macomb who says were
nothing
2:36:40
that were a crowd full of hate
even
2:36:42
though we've just shown that
this
2:36:43
demonstration was amazing
peaceful so
2:36:46
there was no trouble in
response to
2:36:48
Saturday's tensions Interior
Minister
2:36:50
Christophe casanare held an
emergency
2:36:52
Crisis Response meeting in the
capital
2:36:54
and urged protesters to respect
the rule
2:36:57
of law now I stand with the
yellow vests
2:36:59
man these guys are great those
are
2:37:01
patriots right they're not
given up
2:37:04
screw you
2:37:05
what do you say we still live
in the
2:37:07
land of sirs and Lords here
2:37:10
I know this does the fresh can
only put
2:37:13
up with so much and they and I
and I
2:37:16
know they won't quit they will
not quit
2:37:19
not good on them they probably
won't
2:37:21
quit in to discredit which
brings
2:37:22
through the cook begs the
question
2:37:25
what's gonna happen
2:37:28
yeah I don't know
2:37:30
it's not going to get prettier
2:37:34
this is its thorn in the side
of the EU
2:37:37
they're gonna have to I don't
know this
2:37:39
is not gonna work out as far as
I can
2:37:41
tell hmm bad things are gonna
happen all
2:37:44
right you got one last one to
get us out
2:37:46
of here
2:37:46
you got anything well first up
before I
2:37:48
get out of here I don't want to
say I
2:37:49
did put an Amy ISO together I
wanted to
2:37:51
play that so I can see if it's
any good
2:37:52
yeah I I have these this is
what I was
2:37:54
planning thank you for your
courage
2:37:57
that's what I was planning his
ISO of
2:37:58
the day listen I actually had
that one
2:38:01
oh but it lost out to this one
which the
2:38:03
Trump administration unil our
day pulled
2:38:05
out of last year no it's funny
but I
2:38:12
know Nancy is much more prettier
2:38:16
Nancy wins I've got a thing on
the dairy
2:38:19
industry being de-emphasized up
in
2:38:21
Canada which is a big deal
there's
2:38:24
another unreported thing at the
2:38:26
democracy now report on the
Iranians are
2:38:28
sending satellites up and they
think
2:38:30
it's like a just a cheap trick
to get
2:38:32
their ballistic missile together
2:38:34
hmm baseball a Canadian
perspective was
2:38:38
always good of the shutdown
yeah okay go
2:38:44
to Dairy dairies
2:38:46
we're doing dairy people here
comes all
2:38:48
those new year's resolutions to
eat
2:38:50
healthier and soon there will
be a new
2:38:52
Canada Food Guide to help you
along it's
2:38:55
something lots of us probably
learned
2:38:57
about in school and then maybe
took
2:38:59
granted but Health Canada's
been working
2:39:01
on an overhaul it's coming in a
few
2:39:03
months and today we're getting
an idea
2:39:05
of what could change draft copy
2:39:08
recommends Canadians eat a
variety of
2:39:11
healthy foods each day pretty
2:39:13
straightforward right but
potentially
2:39:15
the biggest change dairy
products may
2:39:17
disappear as their own food
group
2:39:19
instead lumped in with proteins
2:39:23
what don't pick my dairy in my
proteins
2:39:28
people yeah we look at chip is a
2:39:31
vegetable we love you guys up
there
2:39:34
and that wraps it up for today's
2:39:37
deconstruction
2:39:39
I'll be watching the Globes
tonight see
2:39:41
if there's anything there see if
2:39:42
anyone's really funny I have low
2:39:45
expectations but we will go do
it but
2:39:50
down now we'll return on
Thursday we'll
2:39:52
see if we can figure out what's
going on
2:39:54
with yous also thank you for
2:39:56
participating in the value
network value
2:39:57
for value is what we're about
remember
2:39:59
us at Dvorak org slash and a
and I'm
2:40:03
coming to you from downtown
Austin Texas
2:40:05
this is the capital of the
drone star
2:40:07
state it's in FEMA region
number six if
2:40:09
you're looking for it on the
2:40:10
governmental Maps if you're
looking for
2:40:12
me I'm in the five by nine clue
do in
2:40:14
the common law condo and say in
the
2:40:15
morning to you everybody
2:40:17
I'm Adam curry I'm from
northern Silicon
2:40:19
Valley where it is one of the
few shows
2:40:22
where reigned throughout the
entire show
2:40:25
unbelievable for California we
live in a
2:40:27
desert
2:40:27
Jhansi tabarak and want to
thank Tom
2:40:30
Starkweather Matt Bosh and Sir
Chris
2:40:35
Wilson for our end of show
mixes until
2:40:37
Thursday adios mofos and such
2:40:45
I just have this vision of you
sitting
2:40:50
there in your office on the hill
2:40:52
watching the trains go by it
goes one
2:40:55
now marking it down in your
little
2:40:57
notebook
2:40:58
I definitely the little know
calling
2:41:00
calling in some quarters
complaints I
2:41:07
hear that Zephyr coming it's
rolling
2:41:10
round the bend we started no
agenda it's
2:41:14
later again so I ride it in the
helpful
2:41:18
and call up to
2:41:24
is on a closet for for service
goes
2:41:29
answering
2:41:38
listen that God people must
just be
2:41:41
thinking the hell are these
guys doing
2:41:45
there were so many haters out
there
2:41:47
whatever is going on in the
internet
2:41:49
don't pay attention to them
everybody's
2:41:51
putting out who's going to
click on or
2:41:53
who they're gonna watch no
that's the
2:41:54
Kenya they don't have a
political bias
2:41:56
other than cash frustration
impression
2:41:58
you get from the president that
he would
2:42:00
like to not only close
government build
2:42:03
a wall but also abolish
Congress but
2:42:06
once you get to like the tippy
tops
2:42:08
national parks are getting a
bit messy
2:42:11
as they're operating on a
skeleton staff
2:42:12
with limited resources
2:42:14
aka no restrooms or trash
collection the
2:42:17
bathrooms are kind of a
challenge though
2:42:21
because you trying to give me
advice
2:42:23
about some doing you ain't got
that mr.
2:42:25
Trump also told lawmakers he
didn't like
2:42:27
the word shut down he has to
give up a
2:42:30
concrete wall and replace it
with a
2:42:31
steel fence in order to do that
so that
2:42:33
Democrats can say see he's not
building
2:42:35
a wall anymore so well then I
don't know
2:42:37
you'd have to ask her
psychiatrist go
2:42:43
find that it's divine I don't
work told
2:42:45
the president we needed the
government
2:42:47
open he resisted the fact he
said he'd
2:42:51
keep the government closed for
a very
2:42:53
long period of time months or
even years
2:42:56
absolutely I said that your
steel is
2:42:59
stronger than concrete okay
okay so you
2:43:01
could check it out
2:43:10
it's sort of the agenda and
it's got the
2:43:13
live stream set up but of the
Valkyries
2:43:16
playing in fat lady is radiated
give the
2:43:19
intro in the morning give it
but wait
2:43:23
there's something common
2:43:39
tells us this are
2:43:48
Reserve
2:44:01
OPO Dvorak dot org slash and a
thank you
2:44:07
for your courage