January 27th, 2019 • 2h 46m
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do you have your gaffer tape to
fix that
again Adam curry is no agenda
from
northern Silicon Valley where I
wouldn't
be doggone I'd be long gone I'm
John
[Music]
alright who's writing your
openings now
damn cook Wow from the grey
everybody
way to go hey nice yeah Manju
jean-claude hello Bonjour in
the morning
to you yes Morey all ships at
sea limit
an exactly well well well what
an
interesting series of events
yes again
yes
show's over we do two days it
doesn't
but hectic excitement yeah and
it almost
result a lot of it resolves
itself again
I've had so many calls from
from our
producers in DC although most
of most of
our producers who are really in
the know
of stuff they're much more
interested in
talking about Venezuela and
most of them
say pay attention because you
know
that's where we're headed
that's that's
what it's gonna be like for us
yeah well
yeah well like Bernie and that's
probably true yeah Bernie came
out made
a big stink about this whole
thing
together we should be back in
Maduro I
mean come on now let's just
let's just
back this up for a second what
what a
fantastic oh is what it is what
I keep
hearing the term guys with guns
well yes
it's just I get it's you know
what's the
difference between is soft coup
and a
hard coupe I think Trump is
more of a
soft cool no it's just no soft
coup is
until the military takes over
oh yes
well that's the definition I've
heard
and I think
very close as my my sources
sources say
sources familiar with the
situation the
United States has offered visas
to all
Venezuela military personnel -
one guy
yeah that was in the embassy in
or the
consulate in Washington who
when he
refused to be called back and
he was a
military guy mm-hmm he's kind
of hung I
actually have a clip which I
think
covers all of this it's not a
bad run
down this is the Venezuela run
down on
NBC the Secretary of State Mike
Pompeo
today putting the world on
notice now
it's time for every other
nation to pick
a side no more delays no more
games
Pompeyo urging action at a
tense UN
Security Council meeting to
address the
unfolding political and
humanitarian
crisis in Venezuela if you
stand with
the forces of freedom or you're
in
league with Maduro and his
mayim i
forgot about forces of freedom
mmm
that's scrumptious freedom
brought to
you by forces humanitarian
crisis in
Venezuela either you stand with
the
forces of freedom or you're in
league
with Maduro and his Mayim those
forces
Pompeo spoke of led by 35
year-old
opposition leader juan guido
this week
was named interim president by
la
venezuelan parliament drawing
criticism
from president Nicolas Maduro
calling it
an American orchestrated coup
Maduro
tweeting no one is going to
subdue us we
will never surrender the split
has
plunged Venezuela further into
crisis
Maduro handpicked by former
President
Hugo Chavez is largely blamed
for the
country's economic decline with
annual
inflation rates up to 1.3
million
percent according to a study by
the
opposition-controlled National
Assembly
Maduro has support only from a
handful
of countries including Russia
and China
more than a dozen nations are
behind why
though after the u.s. announced
its
support
Maduro lashed out expelling
american
diplomats from the collapsed
testing that states are
resolved to
protect our own people the Trump
administration maintaining a
hard line
as protesters in the u.s. pick
sides we
can't be sitting here
complaining about
interference from abroad in our
election
while we're supporting the one
that is
essentially creating a coup and
late
word tonight the Venezuela's
highest
ranking military diplomat in
Washington
has broken with the Maduro
regime i gotta tell you man
Pompeyo and
whoever else was involved in
this did a
good job on teeing everybody up
getting
you know 17 countries
immediately to
recognize guido as as the man
I'm not
quite sure who's the same way
Intel roll
out the Itanium the what just
you'd only
remember this do you know know
the type
so they had this super chip
that they
were gonna roll I was gonna
replace the
x86 series oh okay yeah
and they they did this they did
all this
pre you're gonna be with us
you're gonna
be with us you do this we're
gonna do a
joint announcement and it was
very well
orchestrated probably the best
ever but
it resulted in so much
embarrassment
that never never happened again
quite at
that level but that's what you
do it's
just it's like it's a mark form
of
marketing you just yeah well of
course
that's that's what politics is
is all
marketing there was one extra
little
thing about the voting machines
that got
Maduro re-elected these were a
bunch of
I think British machines
Smartmatic
cybernetic huh who I'm not sure
if they
still had Maduro in their pocket
thinking okay this is all good
here we
go in March 2018 Smartmatic the
electoral product company which
had
participated in the majority of
elections under the Bolivarian
government ceased operations in
Venezuela as said they could no
longer
guarantee the validity of
election
results through its machines
uh-huh
as if they ever could well I
guess they
had their their outcomes
pre-programmed
and maybe someone got wise to
it and
changed that around but this is
very
important for for United States
oil as
and you know more about this
than I do
but it's my understanding that
our
refiners in the u.s. like to
get this
Venezuelan crude to mix up with
our
Texas stuff that I've ever
heard of is
Bolivian mm-hmm and so I have
to assume
that a lot of the crew down in
South
America's is so the stuff is so
the the
problem with crude oil is the
viscosity
and they not so much though as
the
amount of sulfur that is in the
crude
and they had stuff coming out
of Bolivia
that they would run through
this little
refinery they created over by
the Union
refiner on the coast here I
can't
remember the neighbors Pacific
I think
and they just took nothing but
they had
they had this refinery was such
that it
didn't even need any equipment
whatsoever just put it through
the pipes
sulfur out and yeah and I was
told by
somebody when I was in there
working and
up there
that you could take this
Bolivian crude
and put it right in a diesel
truck and
drive it off nice right right
out of the
ground right out of the ground
into your
truck but I'm assuming that
this dis
Venezuelan oil which is right
next door
is similar it's a really
high-quality
product right yeah
but but are you familiar with
the with
the mixing that that's what we
know it
makes sense yeah but that's
generally
the way it's not generally the
way it
works you don't mix the oils
before you
put them through the process
because
you're just causing more
trouble it's
just doesn't seem sensible Oh
hmm if you
give you get refined
Texas crude you can refine
Texas crude I
think I refined the other stuff
too it's
just a it's almost like CMOS
process
yeah this is from I got this
from oil
price calm ever since we started
pipelines you know was looking
at
pipelines I follow a lot of
energy stuff
so I had no idea what what
validity this
has but they said one reason
Gulf Coast
refiners continue to rely on
imports of
Venezuelans heavy oil despite
the
collapsing oil production
Venezuela
scene exports of crude oil to
the UH
well shit where was it now I
lost my
place anyway it was the
refiners needed
it I don't know well I don't
know you I
don't know why they needed more
they
need any other oil but maybe
maybe has
some properties that are good
for some
other byproducts so who knows I
do know
this I was looking at the list
of the
countries with the most oil
reserves in
Venezuela's number one Saudi
Arabia and
for sure what we don't want is
more of
these four hundred consultants
from
Russia who have been sent in
you know
that means consultants code
name for
Special Forces the Chinese are
all there
now the Chinese are in there
and they're
they're pissed because I think
Venezuela
owes them forty or fifty
billion dollars
for stuff that they never
expected to
get paid for but hey that's how
they
works like okay you can't pay
for it
that's ours so this could come
to an
interesting conflagration yeah
that is
an interesting situation right
this play
they have a long clip here from
Democracy Now which takes a
different
angle on this and I I think
there's some
justification for some of these
some of
these assertions but actually
let me
jump to the clip right that
would follow
this but let's play the short
clip first
which is Venezuela the
professor Toki
tundra Velasco let's begin with
you your
assessment of what's taken
place so far
are we seeing a coup in the
making yeah
I mean absolutely there's no
question on
the other hand
the Maduro government lacks
significant
amount of popular support in to
a
significant extent also legal
legitimacy
and as you just mentioned I
returned
from a couple of weeks they're
just on
Tuesday and the level of
discontent
especially among popular
sectors that
have previously strongly
supported
ludo and certainly beforehand
Chavez is
palpable that has to do with
prices it
has to do with public services
however
that does not translate and it
hasn't in
the past and it's unclear
whether it
does now to support for the
opposition
which on its own terms has
advanced
certainly these last few moves
and has
advanced an agenda that that is
plunging
Venezuela into tremendous
degree of a
political and social uncertainty
now in the the now in the long
clip but
what he's saying is that
everybody's
ready for this in the long clip
they
bring something up I hope it's
in here
it's not I'll talk about it
this whole
situation of the collapsed
economy in
Venezuela which the Socialists
are upset
about because of the Bernese
and the AO
sees and the rest because they
would
like to see something social
that that
was pure socialism actually
work now are
they also but please tell me
that
certainly Bernie has also got
to be
saying hey man maybe we
shouldn't be
doing these coos he's he's
talking about
that at all I was just saying
leave the
socialist so she hasn't got any
Bernie
clips okay I do know that he's
all in
for Maduro sure but let's play
the
overview from Democracy Now
Constitution
President Nicolas Maduro
Republic of
Venezuelan defense ministers
comment
came one day after President
Trump
announced the US would recognize
opposition leader Hwang Guido as
Venezuela's new president why
doe the
new head of Venezuela's National
Assembly declared himself
president on
Wednesday during a large
opposition
protest on Thursday US
Secretary of
State Mike Pompeo pledged to
send twenty
million dollars to the
Venezuelan
opposition in the form of
humanitarian
aid to address the shortages of
food and
medicine caused in part by
harsh US
sanctions
Pompeyo made the announcement
while
speaking at the OAS the
Organization of
American States right the time
for
debate is done the regime a
former
president Nicolas Maduro is
illegitimate
his regime is morally bankrupt
it's
economically incompetent and it
is
profoundly corrupt
it is undemocratic to the core
I repeat
the regime of former President
Nicolas
Maduro is illegitimate we
therefore
consider all of its declarations
inaccurate and actions
illegitimate and
invalid Secretary of State
Pompeo speech
was interrupted by code pink
founder
Medea Benjamin who'll join us
later in
the broadcast in other
developments
Venezuelan president Nicolas
Maduro has
ordered the u.s. to remove all
of its
diplomats by Venezuela from
Venezuela
but Washington is ignoring the
requests
claiming Maduro no longer has
authority
to take such action while the
US Embassy
in Caracas is staying open the
State
Department has ordered
non-essential
diplomats and embassy staff to
leave
Venezuela meanwhile Maduro has
ordered
all of Venezuela's diplomatic
staff in
the United States to return
home the
crisis is happening just weeks
after
Maduro was sworn into a second
six-year
term following his victory in an
election last May that was
boycotted by
several of the opposition
groups the
international community
remained split
on the situation in Venezuela on
Thursday UN Secretary General
Antonio
Guterres are urged all actors
to quote
lower tensions and pursue every
effort
to prevent violence and avoid
any
escalation Mexico and Ottawa
have urged
all sides to hold negotiations
on
Thursday Mexico's new president
Andres
Manuel Lopez Obrador
spoke out against for
intervention in
Venezuela in politics today
most day we
should conduct foreign
relations with
the principles of
non-intervention of
the self-determination of
peoples of
peaceful solutions to disputes
Pacifica
but many other countries in the
hemisphere have joined with the
United
States and supporting the
attempted coup
this includes Brazil Canada
Colombia
Argentina and Chile here in the
United
States the leaders of the
Democratic
Party have also largely
supported
Trump's actions you know we do
have a
new actor on the scene who has
not
really come up yet in in any of
the news
reports although I think they
could have
a field day with it el
Abrams do you remember Elliott
Abrams
yeah he was he was the and he
was
involved in iran-contra he
worked for he
cropped up and he was I guess
National Security Adviser forums
administration's what I can't
remember
sorry didn't he just get put
into some
job a special envoy for
Venezuela like
two days ago
like hello yes contra the guy
knows
exactly what to do we're gonna
use local
South American assets which
will be you
know some kind of some military
mercenaries and they're gonna
finish up
the job yeah wait from finger
number one
know what they've China here to
that
everybody if you listen to
enough of
these whoa whoa did they come
for you do
we need to stop tape Johnny you
okay
mention these reports my okay
yeah
what's your mic did you Mike
fall off
yeah okay all right problem
what it did
was knocked over my volume
control like
really well no go ahead turn it
up I
can't wait do you have your
gaffer tape
to fix that again from the last
time it
happened
that's test test yeah of course
whenever
this happens it never falls on
your
musical instruments and
destroys them
forever that's too bad never
does that
get does the recorder get
destroyed ever
anyway so what they're leaving
out is
that the United States and
embargoes the
sanctions it'll work you know
so much in
Europe or places that were even
Russia's
that mean they do work to a
point but
they really do work they worked
very
well in Venezuela and what made
it work
and it's the sanctions that
brought the
economy down over there yeah
and and
what really did the trick was
they
told citko which is owned by
Venezuela's
the it's their outlet for the
refined
products gas stations all over
the place
so when you're putting Citgo
gasoline in
your car you're using
Venezuelan crude
as the base you're actually a
commie
when you use it so when you
were so they
toss it go because of the
sanctions they
couldn't send any of the money
back to
Venezuela that all the profits
from the
gas station right so we're so
it stayed
here yeah we are so good at
this well
it's true it's really well
here's the
thing but what's the
alternative some
people bring up the fact that
we don't
play fair and this particular
trick
which was a good one just to
freeze the
assets you know make them I
mean right
we're not stealing the money
let's put
it that way it still belongs to
Citgo
but it can't leave the country
right and
that is like over a billion
dollars that
Venice or that could probably
use the
way but no they don't even have
access
to the way I see this is it's
it's kind
of a non-starter choice yeah
either we
do it or Russia does it or the
Chinese
do it somebody's gonna do it it
is in
South America it's kind of
close to us
so I understand I understand the
thinking it doesn't make me
feel much
better about the New World
Order I I do
understand where they're coming
from
yeah it's our it's our we have
this is
ours I'm kind of that's like
that's why
you can see what China gets so
upset
about us dicking around in
Southeast
Asia and places like that
that's very orchid the Chinese
were
although they are very involved
in
Brazil but now that we got our
guy in in
Brazil another pet peeve of
democracy
now and the Socialists that may
be
ending and we really may have
some
better relationships with yen's
way
Brazil jumped on board with us
on this
Venezuela thing yes so
Olsen ro is gonna be likely to
be a good
a life to us and he make you
know help
us okay here's what I'm gonna
predict
this because this is much
bigger than
just Venezuela of course I
think that
we're going to see a deal with
China
Trump and G very soon to smooth
over
whatever those guys the Chinese
need in
Venezuela for their investments
I think
that this may be a leveraging
point the
Trump would use to get the trade
agreements in place feels like
that's
what's gonna happen Russia I
have no
idea what they're doing other
than
anything Russia's cares too
much about
this has said that means that
though
that oil but they got four
hundred
Special Forces I don't know I'm
not Jade
like to know what the what's
going on Oh
whenever someone sends in
consultants
you know what that means
they had they had gold mining
rights the
Russians in fact they've
received it not
even too long ago I think oh
that might
be gold let me see yeah the
Venezuela
got a gave Russia a permission
to mine
gold which is another issue
that's
wrapped up in all of this but
the
Russia's maybe just sending
people in to
protect their gold assets
that's that's
possible but the Chinese there
they're
really irked about it some of
the
Venezuelans actually yeah but I
think
that Professor that was at the
first
clip I played mm-hmm now were
one of the
early clips whose Vinc he's
Venezuelan
and he teaches a talks about
this heat
it's the upper classes of
Venezuela that
have been when Chavez was
running the
place did he think he kept them
happy
yeah Maduro has not and he's
run him out
of town basically made him
that's part
of the three million people
that can
afford to leave the country or
there's a
lot of poor people but there's
also many
of the upper-class
an intellectual class in the
country was
forced out and once they you
lose that
group it could be problematic
because
they have a lot of influence
another
other elsewhere and this was I
think is
part of what's going on now
also have
the feeling that the president
the Trump
knew nothing about this or was
very
unaware of it and just that he
just you
know Pompeo it might be his baby
I mean this is that this is
what CIA
does and that may not be so
coincidental
that we also have this Roger
stone
fracas which is dominating the
news I
would say the ratio of
Venezuela Roger
stone news as Venezuela one
stone nine
just in weight of what
attention that's
given oh yeah that and that in
another
at least as much stone coverage
was the
the Trump caved coverage you
get all
this very kind of almost the
Hollywood
tonight's that style of stories
versus
Venezuela yeah exactly which is
a real
story yo it's the only real
story yeah
no it is not as entertaining
and as weak
as you'll find it when we get
to the yes
stone stuff well what else do
you have
on Venezuela cuz that's about
all I got
that quickie this can been
already
actually been played well what
is the
end game what is the end game
for
Venezuela we have to get much
shut
Maduro up everyone has to
accept Guido
Bhama once we've accepted him
then we
can start doing the deals and
making the
Chinese whole and and give the
Russians
whatever mining contracts they
want that
seems like it would be
something to that
order which as long as we
control the
oil you know like Iraq what
could
possibly go wrong
well I would like to know what
triggered
this because we know that Java
would
this is pretty much the story
of the
book economic hitman yes
economic hitman
which is one of them I think
Confessions
of an economic hitman is one of
the
primary books that this show
uses for
theory the first book the first
version
of early release after he got
compromised now the as the
story goes
that you know it was Chavez who
we
wanted to wouldn't play ball
with us and
what that means as I guess
turnover and
half the country of the United
States
interests and he would just
wasn't gonna
do it and they tried to kill
him and
then he really got he ran
outside all
the journalists and everybody
out of the
country because they were all a
bunch of
Stooges for the CIA
and then he took firm control
of the
country and at some point we
kind of
gave up hmm let's sit go in you
know
still has all these gas
stations and
there nobody does anything
about that
sister but you know we kind of
gave up
on and then when the heap and
picked
Maduro to take over it's so I
think
that's when they put those
whatever
section no in the in these
agencies
intelligence agencies was we're
working
on Chavez problem they started
up again
and I took him about this long
to get to
this it took six years cuz
Maduro has
been in for six years right he
just got
reelected so six years have
gone by and
now we've decided to go ramp it
up again
so see no see no visa casino
Venza I'm
sorry is crude oil producer in
in
Venezuela and in September the
the
announcement came that Maduro
said
they'd sold nine point nine
percent of
seen a visa to the Chinese
National
Petroleum Corporation
who after that owned 49% of
Cena visa
the that's a problem Chinese
will have a
real issue with that well that's
probably what triggered that
whole thing
that would be the catalyst we
wouldn't
do sell anything to us
cuz we're trying to get in
there yeah
and they're telling us a pound
sand yeah
I'm so they let the Chinese
waltz in and
take 50% of the main refiner
yeah over
the past 10 years China's China
invested
over 50 billion in Venezuela
Venezuela
in oil for loan agreements
securing
energy supplies for its
fast-growing
economy right okay so that
would be the
issue right there and I think
China is a
little too far from home to get
around
us now god this is so evil it's
great
it's just evil yeah but what's
the evil
part oh just how the world
works and
well it's nothing new to us but
if
people really understood you
know just
take a random college kid he
said hey
you know this is actually how
it still
kind of works I think they
would I mean
they can't even have me read
hazards
they can't even handle a red
hat I mean
just yeah just nothing changes
nothing
changes it's all the same well
little
know one big thing no China no
the
college kids are stupid yeah you
certainly are getting an
interesting
education that's for sure
that's you're
sure coming out to be I guess
that makes
sense that the the joint
venture and the
sale giving China 49 percent of
their
crude company is a problem yeah
China
has every right to do that and
I didn't
have every right to have that
commerce
but I guess for us is just we
just can't
handle that so we have to go
down and
mess everything up we don't
trust the
Chinese no they're not to be
trusted
just look at your look at your
individual interactions with
them the
Chinese believe that everyone's
space is
a
get out of my space is my space
it's
your space that okay whose
space it is
they're rude they think it's
funny when
they can steal something from
us I'm not
saying anything else and that's
how
Chinese are that is their
culture and
they and they admit it well
that's why
they have such harsh penalties
in China
first what we would think of as
simple
infractions right hang some guy
yeah
this still doesn't help well
with that
one guy of mine sorry
well if they hang one guy for
that one
guy it might change but not
okay all right now what we're
getting
closer to the - it's good but
it's gonna
fall apart this is just uh this
is this
is a coup and we're gonna this
looks
like one that they're that
they're the
agency or whoever's behind the
actual
activities it's not going to
botch it
looks like it won't be botched
no I also
think it's not necessarily the
Central
Intelligence Agency I think
this is the
national
geospatial-intelligence agency
where you get that from but oh
maybe I
can't maybe I can't tell you
where I got
it from but why what's there I
don't
care where you got it from but
what
would be the rationale these
are these
they've grown their
capabilities way
beyond what CIA does they they
they are
the true spy agency now in my
humble
estimation because they're
looking from
space they got everything going
in there
they change their name from
National
geospatial agency to national
geospatial-intelligence agency
gives you
a clue really space force
thanks for just think of all
these
things think of all these
things coming
together yeah they have they
have
incredible capabilities and I
think it
may go beyond their military
intelligence
you know who's running the show
he's the
CIA running the show
I don't think CIA is running
any show
anymore yeah the Roger stone
show that's
what they're running well let's
talk
about the Roger stone show yeah
who pops
up after months of being quiet
months
he's not anywhere to be found
Roger
stone gets arrested who pops up
who
Brennan propped up to you IU
was not I
didn't see one instance of
Brennan
anywhere right there on the
morning Jose
mr. director good to see you I
know you
haven't read through the
indictment
we're still reading through it
ourselves
but what's your initial
reaction is the
broad term that's being used as
unsurprising I mean everybody
was
expecting this Roger stone was
expecting
it as well but like many people
in the
trailer
mr. stone has an established
track
record of being unethical and
unprincipled and now this is
catching up
with them and now a seven count
indictment I think it's a very
serious
start the clip over and tell me
that
they booked that everybody in
this
discussion admitted that they
didn't
read the indictment
oh no this goes this keeps
going this
like oh I didn't really read it
I didn't
read of course they all read it
it's Liars his Liars it comes
ready
plus it comes back and this
this I
didn't read it comes back in a
moment so
instead of starting it over
I'll just
continue it comes back you're
absolutely
right about that but it shows
that the
special counsels office is
uncovering
the evidence it needs and so
just like
mr. stones indictment I'm not
gonna be
surprised by the other
indictments that
are gonna be coming down the
pike very
soon recently I will never
testify
against Donald Trump you think
that
calculus has changed this
morning I
think it's changing and will
change you
know if he decides to go down
for mr.
Trump it's going to be you know
his loss
but I think there many people
who have
that a position and then change
it very
quickly when as was
the federal guidelines and
guidelines
tend to wasn't getting to them
so so he
shows up all of a sudden just
after
months of being very quiet says
he
hasn't come on the air sure I
mean I've
been so busy having that time
but you
know for Roger stone I think I
got this
massive massive importance
nothing about
Venezuela
no no just about Roger stone so
what
exactly are these I know you
haven't
read the indictment but oh my
gosh what
are these indictments and what
crimes
and who else is gonna get to
indicted
how many more indictments would
you
expect among the senior Trump
campaign
official listen to AB laughing
any more
indictments would you expect
among
campaign officials that are
referenced
in here stone told senior Trump
campaign
officials about materials
possessed by
organization one WikiLeaks so
that's in
the multiple and then also
there is a
trump supporter that stone was
interfacing with about the
WikiLeaks
drop well I expect that over
the next 60
days you're going to have a
fair number
of a significant number of
indictments I
think people are waiting for
the report
that is coming out from Muller
but what
I look for most is the
indictments and
it's just so rich in detail to
me I
think all of these indictments
are going
to be is basically the
Compendium really
so all these indictments that
he has of
process client crimes pretty
much and
crimes outside of the scope you
know for
tax evasion that's going to be
the
Compendium ie the he's going to
have a
binder filled with all his
indictments
and that will be the report
it's the
compendium sounds like a great
you got
the right term they're
processed crimes
exactly as they were processing
the
crimes took place but let's
listen to
you know non-reading indictment
P
patients so I expect there to
be a
significant number and it's a
different
number of names that are going
to be
quite familiar to the average
American
who everybody who has a name
familiar with the American
people beyond
there at you worn running as
you kind of
watch the Muller dominoes fall
and you
said more to come very very
soon who's
the next Domino on the spot
when Jimmy
the Greek here who's the next
time I
don't know Oh big names house
what names
oh I don't know because you
know people
are innocent until people are
innocent
until alleged to be involved in
some
kind of criminal activity just
listen to
the new laws of the nation
please until
their alleged no because you
know people
are innocent until well alleged
to be
involved in some type of this
is the
former director of CIA who has
this high
Muslim has nothing to do with
these if
he's a Muslim or not you just
tested him
now no because you know people
are
innocent until well alleged to
be
involved in some dr. Brennan I
noticed
in leafing through this
indictment we've
only just gotten in Ted it
Pierce Roger
stone is only indicted for
things that
happened after the
investigation began
but you said an investigation
was
underway
sounds like someone was able to
read the
indictment this sounds like no
one read
it and then this guy read it no
castigation began but you said
an
investigation was underway back
in 2016
can we read from this
indictment that
the special counsels office
believes
that what Roger stone did in
2016 before
he committed these lying to
investigators or whatever that
that was
all legal
no again I haven't read the
indictment
and I know that in the summer
of 2016
I had numerous conversations
with Jim
called me about what was
happening in
terms of what the Russians were
doing
what was being pushed out
publicly how
they got access to the
information who
might have facilitated the
release of
information and so whether or
not you
know Roger stone was involved
again I defer to the special
counsels
office but it was an ongoing
very
intense investigation at that
time to
see what US persons or
officials might
have been working with the
Russians
either wittingly or unwittingly
to
interfere in the election and
pay
attention to the words
wittingly or
unwittingly
they will be very important I'm
convinced of it it propped it
crops up
with the Brennan but the person
who
initially used it in a lie was
clapper
who was asked if the NSA ever
has any
kind of eavesdropping on
American
citizens and he lied and he
said well no
at least not wittingly what is
the exact
definition of wittingly explain
my
Muslim comments I'm going to
change
calling him a Muslim to calling
him a
Salafist okay okay which is the
sect yes
that is the radical one and we
don't
think we have one Salafist to
list so
the show may be but I'm sure he
doesn't
donate let's all just stay with
that
Salafist cuz he has to be a
Salafi he
supposedly became did went
through the
process in Saudi Arabia which
is a
Wahhabist generally speaking
which is a
Salafist offshoot so yeah
Miriam Webster
definition of wittingly is
it's interesting chiefly
dialectal huh
I'm not sure why that strikes
me as odd
that that props up is so it
means that
you knowingly knowingly did
something
but it's it talks about
dialectal I'm
not quite sure how I'm supposed
to
interpret that that means yes
or no so
it's a dialect here is pure yes
or no
okay
so really or unwittingly yeah
it's that
term I hear these terms hearing
one from
Roger stone which he started
off with
with his first getting arrested
mm-hmm
right after the arrest yeah I
had I have
the CNN the live stuff was like
about a
minute oh and he when they
actually was
CNN got tipped off that he was
gonna be
it's not it's not even tipped
off I mean
first of all they call it
exclusive
because it's exclusive they're
sitting
there they're waiting they know
what's
happening this is part of the
set up
everybody involved in this from
the
Mueller side and I'm sure
Brennan knew
as well this was set up listen
this is
just remarkable it's just
remarkable to
watch you know what they call
that's an
FBI open the door and now
they're about
to say another warning sure
seems to
know what's happening FBI
warrant this
is called you know the the grab
shots
vernacular and it is that
cetera is I've
never heard of the grab shot in
the
television vernacular but I
guess they
have it the have you ever heard
of this
the grab shy no I haven't but
it doesn't
mean it doesn't exist in some
news
organizations never heard he's
performer
ball to watch this all unfold
you can
see Roger stone right here a
little bit
behind
stop this 6:00 in the morning
they brought their SWAT team
out a bunch
of tanks and vehicles I don't
know about
you but it's 6:00 in the
morning if I'm
sleeping I'm in a back bedroom
I'm
someplace you know don't know
how big
that house was yeah but I can't
pop up
and open
the door it would take me five
minutes
or longer and they didn't give
him five
minutes I'm surprised that he
got to the
door as fast as he did I have
no idea I
mean he's yes the whole thing
is sketchy
and you heard brevis D even
hers you
heard you heard Brennan say
even Roger
stone knew this was going to
happen he
said it right the beginning the
first
clip Roger stone it was gonna
happen
everybody knew it was gonna
happen so I
guess that means no surprise
you know it's listened to the
rest of
this you know stand it off for
any
procedure for the FBI to show
up heavily
armed and right here like this
but they
didn't do this for other people
connected any investigation so
it gives
me this wicked what they didn't
do that
for what's-his-face for Miller
no
metaphor didn't they do the
exact same
thing I think it was done
procedurally
different first they busted
into this
place at 3:00 in the morning to
just go
through his papers no okay and
then I
think they arrested him but
they didn't
arrest him with with the armored
vehicles and they've been the
black
jackets so it is remarkable
that they
did this without warning
without any
indication of stones lawyers
beforehand
that this would happen we don't
know
also if they executed a search
warrant
on that I mean as an just told
us the
reason they do that is because
they fear
that the person's gonna be a
flight risk
so they want to do it under the
cover of
darkness with a surprise or
they think
that there's so much evidence
inside the
room inside the house that they
don't
want to give anybody a lead
time a heads
up to try to hide some of that
evidence
so that's what we just watched
this
morning all right let me if you
wouldn't
mind I'll try and piece
together what
I've discussed with some of our
DC
producers over the past couple
of days
because this really is just
show it's
all for show and what the
ultimate
reason is is either this is
some kind of
em end game which means that
what you
heard that the compendium of
this type
of activity would be Muller's
report
it's it's very possible that
the fall
guy for all of the non provable
collusion Trump stuff could be
Roger
stone
it's very conceivable he will
he's also
the perfect guy for it if you
think
about it he's a villain he's
creepy he's
got all the elements that that
could be
you know used as all well
clearly this
guy was no good we got to get
rid of him
here's what I bet here's what I
understood we have to take a
couple
basic principles of the No
Agenda show
into account one there is a
continuous
war two between military
intelligence
and central intelligence and
central
intelligence or military
intelligence
either one of them will quote
unquote
run the president
so of course bush senior
probably Bush
jr. it's all CIA Obama CIA for
short
Trump has been dia Defense
Intelligence
Agency you want to say
something just
say you left out Clinton I'm
not sure
about Clinton I'd probably CIA I
wouldn't think would be in be
anything
else it's what I would think
because
running drugs that's what they
do okay
so you need to take that into
account
now you also have to know about
Roy Cohn
does this name ring a bell yeah
Roy Cohn
is the old lawyer that was
karthi's
lawyer he was the adviser on the
McCarthy trials getting rid of
communism
yeah in that was he was also a
kick-ass
attorney in New York yes and he
was in
all the bathhouses with Roger
stone with
you'll love this Bolton
what's-his-face John bolt John
Bolten
gay gay stuff gay bath houses
george w
bush and yeah as mentor and who
knows
what else to Donald Trump and
Roger
stone so this is like this gay
cabal
going on in the 70s pre-aids
mind you
and so everybody knows each
other and
there's a lot of stuff going on
there's
always is weird kinky sex stuff
that
gets everybody in trouble but
Roger
stone is has always been
intelligence
person like CIA FBI just look
at his
history with Nixon who said we
know what
he what he's doing we know what
his ties
are to intelligence or were or
if
they're still there I don't
know now
where does Rogers don't work
Roger stone
right now his only gig or his
prominent
gig is Infowars Alex Jones you
have to
be of the belief that Alex
Jones is
quite possibly his rise came
through the
Defense Intelligence Agency
it's not
like they're sitting there
writing him
checks but yeah I think there's
ways
that they can make that happen
and so as a dialectic I guess
so there's
you know you have your your
alternative
media which amigo Jones have
been doing
this for 15 years Austin Texas
is
definitely a military
intelligence
Stratford all these places
Bobby Inman
lives here
yeah but he's CIA Bobby Inman
is still
ultimately military
tee's army he's a military guy
he's Navy
ok militant but military we
just got the
Air Force you know the Future
command
coming in with billions of
dollars this
is not an accident this is
Austin is
military military intelligence
and I
would say it's not out of the
realm of
possibility to think that Alex
Jones
came to rise after his cable
show with
the internet through military
intelligence maneuvering things
just
seemed to work for him and okay
now wait
I want you to continue your
thinking and
this thought but I want to
throw just a
random clip in because you did
what you
said it fits in with the I so I
was
selecting for the end of the
show that's
two second click okay okay
Roger there
is a war on alternative media
there's a
war on alternative media oh for
sure for
sure now here here's what and
the
problem is Roger stone and
again this is
just what I've pieced together
and you
know I'm I'm shooting from the
hip but
with some the input from our
producer so
you kind of take these
assumptions into
account so we have this military
intelligence Alex Jones thing
running
along and then all of a sudden
we get
Roger stone involvement and
this is a
big problem because what if
this is like
the enemy coming into the camp
why is he
there and it's very and there's
also all
this weird gay sex stuff going
on with
Roger stone and that just look
around
and see what's going on with
Alex Jones
and stone and a couple other
people at
Infowars I can't accuse anybody
of
anything but it you can kind of
think
there may be something odd
happening so
Roger stone is not only a
problem for
the Defense Intelligence Agency
but for
CIA as well it's like we can't
have
these guys working together
doing pillow
talk I don't know now who what
happens
from that and made and I don't
know if
it's coincidental that Tim Cook
is gay
but he's the first one that deep
platform Alex Jones some
message goes
out we this has to stop this
guy has to
stop we got to stop the stone
thing
we've warned we've warned Alex
Jones
boom he's gone and it just
continued
just kept on going so this is
the next
step because they really have
nothing on
him yeah they got some yep oh
he lied
about this or that it's really
nothing
invites great to read the
indictment I
want to mention a few things as
an aside
in there they can you know that
they
keeps talking about how he told
some guy
to lie you're one of his
buddies to lie
to Congress when all he did and
is very
clear in the indictment was
tell him to
plead the fifth
yes that's not talking so on
the line no
so what I think you're seeing
here is a
very easy fall guy maybe we can
say well
at the time this Venezuela
stuff is
happening why don't we just
drop Roger
stone into the meat grinding
machine
that is the m5m cable news
media and
Twitter and everything and just
let it
chop up and let the blood and
the guts
and the bone pieces fly around
well
we're off there making our deal
in
Venezuela and let this be part
of the
Compendium and to then have
Brennan of
not to come out for the
Venezuela story
no Brennan comes out after
Roger stone
he's swatted for an indictment
and of
course you know he didn't even
have to
pay an actual an actual bail
amount
assigned and he walked out so
all of a
sudden we have the the former
director
of CIA after months of missing
in action
he pops up is obvious and I
would say
anyone near Alex Jones he go
away you
should back away from the
operation I
don't think that's going to end
very
well well that's a
now let's listen to the the
fourth or
the third clip I have on
Brennan and
it's a good question from the
Morning
Joe people with with it's it's
kind of
leaning as well with these
indictments
what is the story Bob Miller is
trying
to tell us what's the story as
you see
it that mauler has begun to
tell with
the public information that we
have that
there was an extensive effort
to try to
influence the outcome of the
election
that involved the Russians that
involved
us persons and that may have
gone to the
very top of the Trump campaign
and so I
think the shoes that are yet to
drop are
going to be the ones that are
going to
be the most profound and that
will hit
the people at the at the top of
the
organization who that is the
organization meeting Donald
Trump it may
be a family member well I think
you know
clearly that they have been
talked to
they've been interviewed by the
FBI I
think there's a fair amount of
vulnerability that they might
have on
this but again I defer to the
special
counsels office to make the
determination about whether
what they
did cross that threshold from
collusion
which i think is quite evident
to
criminal conspiracy it's past
that
threshold that is going to lead
them to
an indictment of individuals
that are
close to mr. Trump that are
part of his
family I want to be very clear
about
what I was saying earlier about
the gay
cabal again go look up Roy Cohn
Co HN
look at what he did look at
where he
came from
eat it he's a Jew is a Jew
self-hating
Jew homophobic gay guy it's
it's an
incredible story my
self-loathing is
this self-loathing
okay self-loathing loathing yes
you
understood what I was saying
the bath
the bath houses and it was
Trump Bolton
who is oddly right there and in
the
Trump cabinet the Lord knows
why maybe
we've figured it out Roger
stone George
W Bush and if you doubt me go
look for
the Washington Post
page story about my uncle my
uncle
Donald Greg giving midnight
tours in the
White House to gay prostitutes
for
president george h worker bush
i mean
this is this is not like in
like a big
thing I'm making up here this is
well-known but never really
discussed
because it's always the sex
stuff that
brings these people down every
single
time they can't keep it in
their pants
the other board yeah that's
probably a
part of it well I have a bunch
of Roger
clips that I thought were worth
going
through good good good
now he went on Tucker
immediately after
they arrest and it was one of
these
moments on Tucker where although
Tucker's always got this kind of
flabbergasted look on his face
all the
time with the kind of mouth
open it's
like just kind of like oh my
god have I
hearing what I'm hearing the
sad dog
that look but it's one of those
times
where Tucker wasn't like trying
to be
trying to start a fight or
anything he
was actually the letting stone
go on and
on so he could display that
look of oh
my god he's taking it a little
further
he's kind of like you're so sad
it's oh
my god this is horrible I can't
believe
this is happening that's you
know it's
bankrupting you that's the take
he's i
Tucker is very compromised in
his own
way
I'm little disappointed in some
of the
stuff he's doing but okay but
he does
get he did get stone on and
nobody else
did and so let's start with the
Roger on
Tucker on arrest a clip when
he's the
only one that has stone on no
one else
did that's when you want to ask
questions and we saw the very
large
number of armed federal agents
bringing
you out of the house is there
something
we don't know do you have an
Arsenal at
home had you made threats
against
prosecutors sorts of violence I
mean is
there context that we don't
have no
first of all it's disconcerting
that CNN
was aware that I would be
arrested
before my lawyers were informed
that's disturbing if it was a
dangerous
situation which would merit the
SWAT
team well then CNN's cameraman
would be
in danger I don't know why they
would be
allowed to be there by the way
good
point if you watch the video
this the
cameraman are like right up in
their
grill it's not like a huge
distance shot
there in the bushes they're off
to the
left
a fair point about that being a
big
setup I had no firearm in the
house I
don't have a permit for a
firearm I
don't own a firearm things I
would never
say on television Wow no that's
something go rob that just
don't admit
these things a firearm I don't
own a
firearm only my wife my two
dogs and my
three cats were at home I'm not
a flight
risk in fact I think my
passport has
expired or it will expire in a
few days
I have no record of criminal
past and
frankly they just could have
contacted
my attorney and I would have
voluntarily
turned myself in the proof of
this is
that only hours later the judge
granted
me a $250,000
surety bond meaning on my
signature with
no funds put forward because
I'm not a
flight risk and as far as the
government's contention that
they were
concerned that I would destroy
evidence
they've been in my email and my
text
messages and my phone calls for
two
years probably longer because
the New
York Times reported on January
20 to
Gerry 20th 17 that I was among
three
people in the Trump campaign
under
active surveillance it believe
me a lot
of people were reading his
email and
listening to his phone not just
one
agency well that brings up this
clip
here this is the Roger war on
the press
clip which is kind of a kind of
an
interesting this was probably
scripted
between him and Tucker but it's
pretty
good so it's clear I mean it's
clear
from reading the indictment and
you've
been saying it for at least a
year that
the feds were spying on your
texts
there's no question about I
think I
agree based on based on the
indictment
that they released today so
given
they're reading all of your
texts you
text with a huge not happen to
know a
huge number of journalists
including me
and some of them you know work
for CNN
and even maybe all of those
texts were
being read by a federal
prosecutor what
do you think those journalists
some of
whom are talking about this
case right
now on TV think of that you
know the
that's the amazing thing is the
press is
not coming out and standing up
against
this war against free
expression this
war against the First Amendment
which is
really a war against the press
it's
flabbergasting really why I
can't
believe they're not fighting
against
this he goes on with this
thesis I think
or described before that at
last clip
because that was near the end
but play
Roger on the war on free speech
the
charges against you which are
primarily
for lying to Congress and one
of the
things you're accused of lying
to
Congress about is whether or
not there
was any evidence you had
evidence of
communication between you and an
intermediary and Julian Assange
again
given that you knew that they
had your
electronic communications and
would know
the answer already
wouldn't that be a stupid thing
to lie
about what is this charge yeah
yeah yes
and dude it's really simple I
did forget
that I had text messages from
an old
cellphone that were entirely
exculpatory
which proved that everything I
had said
about critical being my source
regarding
the significance and the
October release
date of the WikiLeaks material
was
accurate
I believe he lied to the grand
jury
about that that's been reported
but he
appears not to be being
prosecuted for
perjury but I forgot exculpatory
information and therefore I
will if
anybody had bothered to read my
my
website the stone-cold truth
they would
know that I'm basically refuted
and
documented the refutation of
virtually
every charge
this indictment the indictment
is thin
indeed so what is this about
it's about silencing me there's
a war on
alternative media there's a war
where
they're trying to criminalize
political
expression there's a war where
they're
trying to criminalize free
speech yeah
yeah I like that - I like you
of our
producers independently said to
me
nothing in this world ever
happens by
accident and I think that that
makes a
lot of sense in this case and
you know
Roger stone it may just be the
Hail Mary
for Mueller like do use this guy
everything about him is wrong I
got one
more clip I'll play shorter
than a
Porsche which is him whining
about going
broke it might be he might be
yeah yeah
but you know he might come back
it is
kind of a shame that the system
could
just break somebody but they
can this is
his use of the term and I ain't
he used
it a lot when he first got
arrested he's
gonna continue to use it and I
either
he's either using it to to send
a
message to some Christians who
are going
to be told to testify or
something yes I
like to use this term over and
over he
never says the word lie he uses
the term
and this good clipped on it has
an
example of it of bearing false
witness
the efforts to shut down my
show at
Infowars the efforts to silence
Alex
Jones who's one of my greatest
supporters and proponents are
part of
this war so I intend to plead
not guilty
I believe I will be vindicated
it's
funny to watch Preet Bharara on
CNN say
this is a slam dunk calls me a
liar
here's a guy who a federal
judge lashed
for lying in the William Walton
case
you're the liar Preet so and
then
watching reporters jump to
conclusions
Tucker and say oh well the the
were the
Trump campaign official who
directed
stone to find out about
WikiLeaks was
Donald
no it was not there are several
things
in here in the indictment that
are
certainly not true so who was
it if it
wasn't the president who is
well I have
to speculate about that because
since it
never happened it appears to me
that
they have composed testimony
for someone
perhaps Rick Gates perhaps
Steve Bennett
perhaps someone is bearing
false witness
me but knowing what's in my
email and my
text messages
there is no corroboration
whatsoever for
this yeah you know there's so
much more
when it comes to specifically
these guys
in Florida and Broward County
and
sheriff Scott Israel from the
the school
that got shot up Roger stone
good
friends with him
Trump mar-a-lago Maxwell the
member the
the billionaire with his
daughter who
then you know all these these
sex cults
it's a mess and Trump is in it
he's in
the middle of the sex mess in
Florida
and I think there's Epstein all
of this
stuff it's it's it's the more
you look
the more you want to look away
and I
think I think stone really had
to be
she's probably lucky they did
it this
way to be honest I think he's
such a
talker he's got so he has so
much so
much information he's a he's a
real
liability for all parties all
parties
see none of the truth can
really come
out about all any of this
because all of
that stuff has to come up again
just
coincidental that the Miami
Herald does
this huge expose on Epstein you
know the
Broward County up in arms or
all these
different things yes said that
he's
looking forward to this case
actually
going forward cuz he wants to
see cuz
this worth a lot of money gets
chewed up
too he says he wants to see
what they
have on him in Discovery uh-huh
they're
gonna start asking the moon the
thing
these these cases don't get
resolved and
people like doesn't some guy on
NBC by
age he's gonna be guilty
for sure because these
indictments are
well-written he's the MSNBC
legal
analyst once the chief of the
DEA is
tough guys talks like this
there you go
and he went on about this and
I'm
thinking I doubt it because
they for one
thing the indictment is lame
and very
lame and it's gonna open up a
can of
worms if it actually goes to
trial I
think they just could this was
that you
probably right this was you
indict him
to have him sign this surety
bond go
home and now he has to shut up
especially he's cuz he's gonna
plead not
guilty I'm sure they're sure
cuz he
doesn't want to bear false
witness
against the president and so
he's gonna
but then it just stays there
like that
and he can't do anything he
can't go
talk in because it's all gonna
be used
you know you just can't he did
shuts him
up then and all with the
intelligence
community doesn't like that
what does
for stone is doing don't like
these kind
of people you know they like
drinking no
drugs booze and women
that's the intelligence
community we
don't do any other of the crazy
bath
house stuff that everyone
wanted this
guy out of the way I'm telling
he's
lucky to be alive in my opinion
and he
may just be the fall guy this
is why
Brennan comes out and says halt
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must stop
and say that I'm very curious
as to your
response and perhaps even your
coveted
vote now that you know that
Elizabeth
Warren has proposed would you
have been
a proponent of for as long as
I've known
you wealth tax on rich
Americans this is
something you've always been
for yes but
I've been for a generalized
wealth tax
with the elimination of income
tax
altogether because the income
tax
prevent you from accumulating
wealth and
if you don't accumulate okay so
that's
the caveat as you feel that as
long as
we abolish income tax and we
just do a
wealth tax that's that I never
really
remember you saying that but I
did I
believed it I'm not the
argument is you
can't accumulate wealth if
you're being
taxed for your income and you
want to
encourage people to make as
much money
as they can possibly make
income wise
you don't want to discourage it
so you
want to encourage that and then
when
they start accumulating to the
point
where it's like a little too
much money
and they're not spending it on
anything
except even if they're spending
it on
yachts and houses those are
that's part
of their wealth and if they're
putting
it into this back into the
system by you
know hiring a lot of people and
doing
all these other things that's
not wealth
you know you're not you're not
accumulating wealth if you got
it gosh
okay well then I'm okay so
perhaps you
should say a wealth only tax
well I was
implied maybe it's been a while
since
we've talked about it so I
wants to
imply here's what I think is
positive
she brought it into the
conversation yes
that's why it's a gap I heard
wealth
taxes gouged the rich and
charged them
to 2% of all their assets and I
think
that's unfair but
it's a start it starts the
discussion
alright and people say well you
know you
can't do a well text because
you it's
impossible people hide no later
you
can't hide that much wealth you
can't
hide you bureau houses you
can't hide
your yachts right it's really
on your
your your worth your net worth
really yeah your network your
portfolio
is the IRS knows what it is if
you start
cheating on where you're
putting your
money hiding it in the Cayman
Islands
you know they don't like this
so you
have to you're your wellness of
your
property and your portfolio and
your
bank account yes and that's it
I mean
we've never had problems
collecting
property tax no it's a big
building yeah
okay no good solved I did come
up with
just staying with the 2020
election and
I believe this to be true you
know I've
had a bit of an issue with
Kamala
Harris's uh uh well now she's
saying she
was raised as African American
so she
identifies as African American
I guess
that's valid by today's
standards she's
not African American I don't
believe she
had the pure African American
experience
growing up in Ottawa but if she
says to
say if she says she was raised
as an
African American even though
her father
as you make and her mother is
Indian
okay I'm not gonna argue it
however it
is my belief in order to be
eligible for
president your parents have to
have been
naturalized for at least five
years
prior to the child's birth
could be
wrong but I think there's a
regulation
somewhere in there
so you think she's ineligible I
do
her father arrived from Jamaica
in 61
her mom from India in 1960 she
was born
in 62 so I don't think she's
eligible no
well she's not gonna win anyway
and they she's high on some
people's
list yeah I've heard this too
and it's
just like you when you think
about it
I'm just covering the bases
here I
really despise this stuff
together
because there's a lot of guys
running
yeah I mean it's now it's
gotten to the
point where there's probably 50
Democrats that think they're
gonna run
for president yeah yeah that's
opposed
to it the only smart money he
seems to
be Gavin Newsom Newsom who's
our you
know one he's a wannabe
president but
they asked him if he wants to
run
against Trump in 2020 and he
said hell
no he's smart he's 2024 yeah
he's gonna
wait he's gonna wait no one
wants to do
this I just the morons want to
go up
against Trump well you have a
list of
them in there she's a long list
of
morons are the elites were all
I guess
are they done now are they back
from
Davao from there still going
like
tonight I thought last night
was a big
crescendo like a big climax
because they
had their key key key speaker I
remember
this I think there were fifteen
or
sixteen hundred private jets
that all
convened on Davao to talk about
climate
change amongst other things
talking
about climate change
so this guest speaker whose
original
speech was about six minutes
long but
once I chopped out all the
spaces so it
has been modified for your for
brevity
and for your entertainment
enjoyment
this speaker did not come on a
private
jet this speaker took a 37 hour
train
ride
to provide the sound bites that
everyone
craves when you're in the elite
circles
because all they're talking
about is who
controls the spending and what
are we
spending it on to grow and I
think the
climate change is one that's
kind of
failing and 5g is the other one
we'll
get to that in a moment this is
Greta
Thumb berg this is the the 12
year old
kid and she had some really
interesting
things to say and I think it's
worth
it's long clip up to this then
good it
is long but it's important to
listen
because this is being said in a
stage
that is intended to come across
as
alarmist of course we're
abusing this
child to do this you know we've
seen
this with the the invasion in
Iraq we
use children to talk about
children
being thrown out of incubators
all lies
this child is being solved by
the way
she has showbusiness parents
did you
know that's like her mom's an
opera
singer her dad's an actor
granddad was a
director so it's a total show
business
family and they propped this
kid up and
they let her terrorize her age
group
specifically I mean to say our
house no
kids ever worried when you say
the house
is on fire it's just they're
all they're
all fine with it according to
the IPCC
we are less than 12 years away
from not
being able to undo our mistakes
in that
time unprecedented changes in
all
aspects of society needs to
have taken
place including a reduction of
our co2
emissions by at least 50% and
please
note that those numbers do not
include
the aspect of equity which is
absolutely
necessary to make the Paris
agreement
work on a global scale nor does
it
include tipping points or
feedback loops
like the extreme powerful
methane gas
being released from the sign
Arctic
permafrost you notice how they
slip in a
couple new things here oh it's
the
methane gas being released from
the
melting ice and I'm not going
to die so
horrible
at places like divorce people
like to
tell success stories but their
financial
success has come with an
unthinkable
price tag and on climate change
we have
to acknowledge that we have
failed all
the political movements in
their present
form have done so and the media
has
failed to create broad public
awareness
but Homo sapiens have not yet
failed yes
we are failing but there is
still time
to turn everything around we
can still
fix this we still have
everything in our
own hands but unless we
recognize the
overall failures of our current
systems
we must probably both probably
don't
stand a chance we are facing a
disaster
unspoken sufferings for
enormous amounts
of people and now it's not the
time for
speaking politely we're
focusing on what
we can or cannot say now it's
the time
to speak clearly solving the
climate
crisis is the greatest and most
complex
challenge that Homo sapiens has
have
ever faced I'm not quite sure
why she
keeps saying Homo sapiens I mean
obviously we know that that's
man
mankind womankind people on
earth people
maybe it's because of the
possibility of
using the word man oh yes
politically
correct thank you the main
solution
however is so simple that even
a small
child can understand it we have
to stop
the emissions of greenhouse
gases and
either we do that or we don't
you say
nothing in life is black or
white but
that is live a very dangerous
life
either we prevent a 1.5 degree
of
warming or we don't either we
avoid
setting off that if
irreversible chain
reaction beyond human control
or we
don't either we choose to go on
as I
civilization or we don't
that is as black or white as it
gets
there are no gray areas when it
comes to
survival now we all have a
choice we can
create transformational action
that will
safeguard the future living
conditions
for humankind we can continue
with our
business as usual and fail that
is up to
you and me so say that we
should not
engage in activism
it said we should leave
everything to
our politicians and just vote
for change
instead but what do we do when
there is
no political will what do we do
when the
politics needn't are nowhere in
sight
here in Davos
just like everywhere else
everyone is
talking about money
it seems that money and growth
are our
own only make common sense and
since the
chronic crisis is a crisis that
has
never once been treated as a
crisis
people are simply not aware of
the full
consequences of our everyday
life people
are not aware that there is
such a thing
as a carbon budget and just how
incredible small that remaining
carbon
budget is had you heard of this
carbon
budget that's a new term to me
yeah I
looked it up and the carbon
budget is
Bheema it's there it's kind of
a reverse
budget the amount of carbon
you're
allowed to use but here comes
the next
piece which is very telling no
other
current challenge can match the
importance of establishing a
wide public
awareness and understanding of
our
rapidly disappearing carbon
budgets that
should and must become a new
global
currency this is very hot
future and
present economics so carbon
becomes the
new currency thanks kiddo we
are now at
a time in history for everyone
with any
insight of the climate crisis
that
threatens our civilization and
the
entire biosphere must speak out
in clear
language no matter how
uncomfortable and
unprofitable that may be we
must change
almost everything in our current
societies the bigger your carbon
footprint is the bigger your
moral duty
the bigger your platform the
bigger your
responsibility adults keep
saying we owe
it to the young people to give
them hope
but I don't want your hope I
don't want
you to be hopeful I want you to
panic I
wanted to feel the fear I feel
every day
I wanted to act I wanted to act
as you
would in a crisis I wanted to
act as if
the house was on fire I gotta
say I
gotta say
I think those Google guys are
pretty
good on their new AI it's it's
quite
convincing you know I think
they you're
sitting in the audience and
you're one
of the guys who came in on one
of the
1,500 private jets yeah you're
sitting
there and you're listening to
her and
you think you're probably
talking to
your guy next so he said yeah
they've
done a great job with the kids
you know
they we have them under
complete control
any any crazy notion and in
fact it's
gotten so carried away in
Europe and I
expect to see this here even
though it
did they try to do this here
but our
kids aren't quite this dumb but
this is
the Brussels big student strike
over
this yes yes yes yes and in
Brussels
Belgium an estimated 35,000
children
held a one-day school strike
Thursday
surrounding the European
Parliament
building demanding urgent
action on
climate change it was one of
the largest
student protests ever in the
Belgian
capital students said they're
ready to
skip classes once a week until
their
demands are met we think that
if we skip
every Thursday so we don't go
to school
that the big people in our
country and
in the world will say that it's
a
problem and that they will do
something
about it the students are
following in
the footsteps of now sixteen
year old
Greta ten Berghe from Sweden
who is
leading the school strike
movement
globally she is now in Davos
Switzerland
dressing leaders at the World
Economic
Forum well she's 16 I thought
she was a
little younger dressing leaders
yes
instead of addressing he's
dressing like
dressing them hey come here I
call your
those pants they gotta go she
said to
every one of them all of your
pants and
I was so hopeful I even saw
that nuclear
energy was on on a couple of
the on the
table a couple of conversations
in Davao
it's cropped up more and more
as a true
alternative and right on cue
I'm waiting
for our very own atomic sir
atomic rod
Adams to check in he should be
here
because he's the guy that
turned me on
to this lying scumbag
this is a former nuclear
regulator of
the United States Jack so do you
remember this guy no okay
so Jasco he he left the the
Nuclear
Regulatory Agency because he
was a dick
mainly towards women but it
doesn't
matter he's back no one has a
problem
with him anymore he's written a
book it
is and we gotta love the the
subtext of
the confessions of a rogue
nuclear
regulator is the title of his
book which
I think is intended to conjure
up images
of confession of an economic
hitman and
of course nuclear is the
stupidest thing
we could do oh my god whoa no
today 98
reactors at fifty nine
commercial
nuclear sites in the u.s.
provide power
across the country using a
technology
heralded by proponents as a
savior from
climate change and the key to
solving
the world's growing energy
needs but our
next guest says that nuclear
power is
more hazardous than it is worth
and
warns that it can its continued
use will
lead to catastrophe in this
country or
somewhere else in the world
former
chairman of the US Nuclear
Regulatory
Commission Bret Gregory Atsuko
joins us
now he's the author of a new
memoir
entitled confessions of a rogue
nuclear
regulator and thank you very
much for
being on the show
wondering what the exact
confessions are
especially given your tenure as
NRC
commissioner ended in a little
bit of
controversy first why you wrote
the book
well I wanted people to really
understand how this industry is
regulated and how it works
because this
is a technology that's
hazardous it's a
technology that at any moment
really
could lead to the kind of
catastrophic
accident we saw at Fukushima so
I
thought people should
understand that
and you know as you said people
are
talking about nuclear power is
this a
view to climate change and that
worries
me more than the risk of a
nuclear power
plant accident because I don't
think it
can rise to the wait a minute
what did
he just say he said something
weird
their home
as you said people are talking
about
nuclear power is to save you to
climate
change and that worries me more
than the
risk of a nuclear power plant
accident
because I don't think it can
rise to
that challenge so in it so more
worrying
to him than a meltdown of a
reactor or
something else like that is
actually
people using nuclear to combat
climate
change
worse than that if you really
deconstruct what he said yeah I
got a
couple more short clips from
this guy
from this interview he's using
Fukushima
he doesn't even go back to
Chernobyl or
Three Mile Island fuck Ashima
and you
know he's conflating a lot of
different
things it was an earthquake
right off
the coast it was a tsunami the
tsunami
is what triggered the meltdown
and the
tsunami killed the people the
tsunami
made everybody move away but
okay yeah I
started in Washington as a
physicist and
so I looked at every issue
based on the
facts and made hypotheses and
revised
those hypotheses as I learned
new facts
and the biggest fact that
changed my
mind was this accident in
Fukushima
I saw a hundred thousand people
evacuated from their homes many
of them
permanently evacuated and you
know
that's the kind of thing you
should
never see from from a source
that
generates electricity oh let's
see
do we ever had any problems
with oil has
that ever been a bad for the
environment
or for people let me think
he would also are your oils bad
he did
we're talking about a guy a
climate
change guy was all in on solar
he
doesn't say this but this is the
mentality Noah oil bad nuke bad
good
yeah you got and moreover we
were
promised and in the industry
pledge that
these kinds of accidents were
in the
past and here we had one in
front of us
which I simply couldn't ignore
anymore
and and I began to realize then
that
this is a technology that
simply was too
hazardous to really be a future
technology
I am so just stop all
developments it
could never be any good it's
it's no
good it's you know it ruined
Japan yes
so there's really the area
around the
plant there
larger is the plant that are
still
uninhabitable most of those
people who
were evacuated can't return to
their
homes or won't return to their
homes so
lives have been disrupted in a
way that
we think about more with Wars
than with
with energy generations then
you have a
lot of radioactive water that's
being
stored at the site people
really don't
know what to do is so it'll be
decades
before this really gets just
how likely
could this something like this
happen
the United States you know it's
so hard
to predict there's plants kind
of
operate always on this
precipice of
normal operation on one side and
catastrophic failure on the
other but
what we know is the accidents
will
happen so it's just a question
of when
and where and it's it's hard to
predict
which is why the industry often
Taos
that everything's fine
so his solution to sorry
because it
rarely happens there's a three
major
incidents at remotes are noble
Three
Mile Island Fukushima yeah and
how many
years has it been I mean did
new nuclear
power probably began in the in
earnest
at least the discussions in the
late 50s
I mean Myka that could have
brought up I
don't know France shut those
down yeah
that's macron that guy
well our buddy here has some
solutions
and if I'm not mistaken isn't
solar
energy subsidized by the
government
LA yeah I think it most of it
is Elon
Musk cars were certainly
subsidized by
the government so there's all
kinds of
electrical stuff that hold take
down of
the wind powers as subsidies in
the
museum and all the rest of it
well
listen to his last bit here
people who
as a part of Morning Joe I
guess they
bring in the BBC USA woman
Katie Orr
Kathy whatever his name is I
don't know
why she's there but she gets to
ask a
question so for people who are
trying to
find a counter to fossil fuels
in the
fight against global warming
having
nuclear power written off like
this is
kind of depressing because this
was the
hope right that nuclear power
could be
made safer and it could be the
counter
in our effort to keep global
temperatures from going up if
you weigh
the risks of higher difficult
mperatures
because of fossil fuel inquiry
usage and nuclear power you
still come
down firmly in the favor of
non-nuclear
of non nuclear power so she's
got a she
got a good point here except
for the you
know the accidents even with
that I mean
this is not a good idea to try
this yeah
yeah I mean I think that's a
false
choice because the policies are
right
now in the marketplace cleaner
Sun wind
geothermal these technologies
are
actually in some cases cheaper
than
nuclear and they're getting
cheaper much
much faster so I actually think
the
future is pretty hopeful but
what we
need to do is really let the
markets
decide and kind of get out of
the way of
subsidizing reactors to try and
keep
them around because the reason
people
are doing that is to keep the
reactors
around they're not really doing
it to
deal with climate change
because we want
to deal with climate change you
just
have to let the market decide
and then
you need to do things with gas
to maybe
make gas a little bit more
expensive and
if you do that the things that
are gonna
fill in is really winds on in
geothermal
it's not nuclear and that's
what we're
seeing in the market here in
the US and
throughout the rest of the
world except
it's not true god I hate this
guy it's
such a dick we've done a lot a
dude and
since he's back on the scene
I'm gonna
follow him because he was he was
expelled you know for be
basically a
me-too moment it wasn't long
after the
maybe was just before the show
started
I'm trying to think know is
2012 when he
announced his resignation but
it was
because you know people to
complain he
was a dick especially female
subordinates one woman told me
she felt
the Chairman was actually
irritated with
someone else but took it out on
her I
mean this guy would have been
excoriated
and Mika Brzezinski just says
oh yeah
this was a little bit of
controversy oh
no problem all paid all big
it's a big
this is business your big oil
money
right here that's your big oil
money
that could be
there's a possibility that
exists that
oils behind this this guy you
think well
I mean some it does to be some
explanation he can't he doesn't
seem
like a guy specially vism if
he's a
masher or whatever he was you
know a
kind of a crunchy guy that's
too logical
I got another
would you do something like
another
presence report I want to push
justice
and I want to make a commentary
oh geez
checks we are we getting checks
what
checks let's start with let's
do the
longest one this dude no checks
report
FBI ATC Kathy Kalani is an IRS
worker in
Florida and I want to believe
and I pray
that the politicians in
Washington will
do this economy and everybody
right by
doing the right thing
hours before the president's
announcement the shutdown was
escalated
right on a brothel in the
Northeast
today
air traffic reduced to a
trickle I
wouldn't be surprised if it
takes you
know another 20 to 30 minutes
before we
come become airborne after a
number of
air traffic controllers called
in sick
when they probably saw the
second and
zero paycheck that probably
puts so much
stress on them and they're not
fit for
duty if they are overstressed
New York's
LaGuardia Airport brought to a
standstill totally sympathetic
to them
because you can't operate a
business
that way meanwhile pressure was
also
building at the FBI it takes a
lot to
get me angry but I'm about as
angry as
I've been in a long long time
FBI
director Chris Rea today told
32,000
employees it was unfair and
short-sighted to make them work
without
pay an IRS backlash has also
been
building 14,000 workers called
in sick
this week after being called
back to
work without pay among them
Laurie
Wilcox in Utah who fears she'll
be
furloughed again next month
we're terrified that we're
gonna lose
our house lose our cars you
know hmm
this was a this was a pretty
slick move
and I think this is why Trump
quote caved what I understand
that that
from the Union the air traffic
controllers Union and perhaps
more of
the well certainly air traffic
controllers that some liked a
quarter of
them or mid twenty to twenty
five
percent are working but they're
completely eligible for to take
a
pension and to retire and yeah
that I
think there was some noise like
oh we're
gonna have twenty percent
walk off the job and just take
their
pension and never come back
no that's a possibility but
that's kind
of not gonna be my point um
when I plays
another one of these clips this
is the
no checks report NBC belt
buckles and
Los Angeles furloughed FAA
inspector
Kurtis Calabrese is expecting
back pay
but says the political
tug-of-war should
have never happened in the
first place
this all began over debate for
a wall
right has it been worth it to
weigh that
against the safety of the
American
people that are flying every
day is that
worth it absolutely not in
Washington DC
some agree I don't think it was
worth it
what did it accomplish nothing
back in
Colorado single mom and Devin
Lintz lost
her job at the belt buckle shop
I don't
see myself going back to work
before the
end of February until something
is truly
signed and done families caught
where
politics turns personal Morgan
Chesky
NBC News
let's go to this one I got a
note checks
again the FBI checks report NBC
this is
shorty federal workers like
Carla Davis
a grand processor at Housing
and Urban
Development need a little more
help
waiting on Backpage I'm glad
that's it
and then let's go to no checks
report
random and Democracy Now with
coast
guard kicker
this comes as some 800,000
federal
workers who've been furloughed
are
forced to work without pay for
over a
month
we'll miss a second paycheck
today
federal workers are
increasingly turning
to food pantries as they
struggle to pay
for housing food and other
basic needs
among them more than 40,000
active duty
members of the US Coast Guard
this is
Coast Guard commandant Admiral
Carl
Schultz I find it unacceptable
that
Coast Guard men and women have
to rely
on food pantries and donations
to get
through day to day life as
service
members ok let's just stop a
million of
them but let's listen to these
and now
analyze these things we've got
guys in
the Coast Guard guys in the FBI
ATC
everybody and they're gonna
miss a
second check and a woman did
one woman
as you heard says we're gonna
lose our
house we're gonna lose our cars
that's
total bullshit and is it yes
yes it is
and I have I think I may or may
not be
but what they're there standing
is that
this economy is so weak and so
flaky
that you can't miss one or two
- let's
say two paychecks without
losing your
house your car and everything
in between
yeah that's what they said
that's the
case you can prove it's not the
case and
that would be fine because I
don't
believe it is either you can
prove
that's the case but if that is
the case
that these people are so bent
out of
shape about this over the one
or two
bloss paychecks which tells me
that too
many people too many people and
it I'm
assuming that there's some
truth to this
too many people
that are making good money
working for
the government it's not like a
lousy
paying job working for the
government
the federal government in
particular
they're a living paycheck to
paycheck
what happens if we have an
actual
economic collapse we're all
going to die
I would think so if you're
working for
the federal government and
you've been
working there for let's assume
for some
time that you have cars and you
have a
house that doesn't mean you
started
yesterday and you're you can
lose all
these things overnight because
of a Mis
paycheck no it's not a good
signal
that's that's also not true
it's in this
case I believe if if our
economy tanked
and people miss paychecks yes I
think I
think there's a lot of people
living
paid to paycheck to paycheck
because
they're on the credit bandwagon
and are
overextended and have been this
way for
decades and this is what the
system is
you know watch TV you oh I
gotta buy
this stuff that I can't afford
buy it
with money I don't have go back
to my
job repeat cycle yeah I think
that's
real yes I do well this is not
a good
signal it's not it's not and
the worst
night now let me give you
another worst
but can I whenever you're ready
I want
to prove that it's bullshit
these
reports are bullshit that's
what I let
me finish this democracy now
had a bunch
except some Wilbur Ross yes
that's
exactly where I want to go well
Ross
comes on and and of course she
takes it
from the perspective why listen
to this
guy he's worth seven hundred
million
dollars what does he know about
somebody
getting a paycheck so I'm gonna
play the
two clips this is the end
deny democracy now versus the
bridge
loan idea that he has meanwhile
president Trump's commerce
secretary
multi millionaire investor
Wilbur Ross
said Thursday federal workers
should
simply take out bridge loans
until they
get paid
Ross was being questioned by
CNBC anchor
Andrew Ross Sorkin there
reports that
there are some federal workers
who are
going to homeless shelters to
get food
well I know they are and I
don't really
quite understand why because as
I
mentioned before they the
obligations
that they would undertake say a
borrowing from a bank or a
credit union
are in effect federally
guaranteed
I can't wait to start I'm
waiting for
that started and then she goes
to number
two and instead of saying
here's the
read I'll tell you what really
bothers
me then you can play your clip
this play
the second part where's all she
does is
just give Wilbur Ross crap for
being a
rich guy so the 30 days that
pay that
some people will be out there's
no real
reason why they shouldn't be
able to get
a loan against it Commerce
Secretary
Wilbur Ross whose net worth is
estimated
around 700 million dollars also
diminished the financial
hardship faced
by unpaid federal workers
800,000
workers if they never got their
pay
which is not the case they will
eventually get it but if they
never got
it you're talking about a third
of a
percent on our GDP so it's not
like it's
a gigantic number overall all
right now
she mocks him for being rich
and she
goes on it this is crazy now
instead of
doing that if Ross is right and
you can
just get a guaranteed bridge
loan which
I guess a lot of people don't
know what
a bridge loan is and they
probably don't
go to a bank or I have no idea
what the
what the problem is here but
instead of
educating the public here if
you've lost
your job let me let us explain
to you
how you can go to your bank and
get this
guaranteed according to Ross
guaranteed
federal bridge loan to keep you
afloat
instead of coming on NBC or yes
Democracy Now or any of these
other
stations and moaning and
groaning like
that one woman did about she's
gonna
lose her house and they're
gonna lose
their cars they got nothing
they can do
John and instead of saying well
that's
not true you can you can do
this and
we'll show you how no no they
just
ridiculed because there's always
something to do with Trump yes
with the
whole thing to be incredibly
it's not
useful and you will really
despise it
when I unveil the rest
Democracy Now did
exactly what Don Lemon does on
CNN I'll
just play a little bit he he
had a clip
about the ADA
thing 800,000 oh he doesn't
give a shit
about these people and here's
here he is
about the loans listener
reports that
there are some federal workers
who are
going to homeless shelters
let me get food candy festival
no they
are premium you know shouldn't
be able
to get a loan against it that
is the
most elite out-of-touch thing
that i
have ever heard in my life in
all my
years ever on this earth that is
insulting thing that i've ever
heard the
most elite elitist however you
want to
put it thing that i've ever
heard
i could not believe it i had to
go back
and i say i gotta find this on
the
internet is this true hey you
folks who
aren't getting paid just go
take out a
loan take out a loan here's
what he's
saying okay follow along with
me take
out a loan for the money that
you've
earned the money that we owe
you because
we really have no idea when
you're going
to get paid even though a lot
of you are
still on the job so yeah take
out a loan
pay interest just to get the
money that
we owe you and the Commerce
Secretary
may know where you can get a
loan
because this departments
Federal Credit
Union is offering emergency
loans at
almost nine percent Interest
nine
percent it's according to the
Washington
Post okay so it's generally the
same
story what an elitist rich prick
last night Saturday I didn't
clip it
because without the visual
doesn't work
but kate mckinnon whatever her
name is
now she's taking her her
character and
she did Wilbur Ross very well
as a
creepy elitist a whole which he
does
come across but it's
disingenuous from
Amy and from Don and everybody
because
it's only a part of what he
said you
might be surprised he said a
little bit
more and I did some checking on
it
Wilbur Ross who was on CNBC
it's a
business news network it's not
the fast
paced CNN Fox News MSNBC
Democracy Now
war and peace report where
everybody's
already made for television and
gets to
point out in ten seconds well
Ross said
something very important as a
part of
this suggestion mr. secretary
many many
of these workers clearly need
that paid
me to fast forward a bit we've
heard
those three times now
then they risk me well first of
all the
banks and the credit union
should be
making credit available to them
when you
think about it these are
basically
government guaranteed loans
because the
government has committed these
folks
will get their back pay once
this whole
thing gets settled down so
there really
is not a good excuse why there
really
should be a liquidity crisis
now true
the people might have to pay a
little
bit of interest but the idea
that it's
paycheck or zero is not a
really valid
idea there's no reason why some
institution wouldn't be willing
to lend
and indeed we've heard tales of
some of
the private sector the private
sector
needs to step up where the
public sector
can't no but I'm saying is
there have
been ads run by a number of the
public
sector credit unions which are
member
organizations of the people who
work in
the departments those have been
nouns
very very low interest rate
loans to
bridge people over the gap oh
wait a
minute
I guess Don and Amy didn't hear
that
part and I went and looked and
if you
look for local news reports all
across
America this is what you heard
the
phrase living paycheck to
paycheck is a
stark reality for many
Americans as
thousands of Ohioans are
figuring out
how to pay their bills while
their next
payday is uncertain this is
from January
3rd here in the Miami Valley
day our
credit union is offering
assistance of
their own to these impacted
workers
preferably our members would
have direct
deposit coming in here to the
credit
union
very easy for us to look and
see what
that dollar amount is and then
we can
match a loan amount to that
direct
deposit 0% interest for 30 days
direct
deposit is not available a
current pay
stub may be required to get the
loan
after 30 days prevailing
interest could
begin to kick in but Theobald
says they
will look at the program if
that becomes
an issue right now he says it
is mostly
Department of Transportation
employees
seeking assistance if it
anticipates
many more if the partial
government
shutdown now this is their own
credit
union called day ere let's go
to San
Diego let's just see if there
was any
issues there with credit unions
Washington stalemates our
phones have
been ringing off the hook
things are
busy for Cabrillo credit union
people
are scared but it's something
they've
dealt with before they've been
through
multiple for those multiple
government
shutdowns over the years and
the San
Diego founded business is
loaning
government employees their
paycheck
value with no interest until the
shutdown is over federal
employees they
weren't expecting this I mean I
can play
18 of these clips all the
credit unions
local news the chickenshit news
subvert
of this obvious skated and they
just
found either idiots or people
who are
willing participants to cry
whereas
every single one of these
credit unions
it's not a familiar concept in
the rest
of the world go look at what a
credit
union does they're also part of
these
organizations themselves yeah
it's very
hard to work within any
government
operation I can say that as
someone who
knows I was a member of the san
francisco city workers credit
union
because you're if you're a work
government worker there's a
credit union
attached to what you do if
you're in the
Armed Forces there's a credit
union
attached to what you do and
these credit
unions do what these clips are
telling
this is most really mad about
this
because they me and everyone
they they
did not play everything the guy
said
besides that they it was the
Don Lemon
one that was the eye-opener
first he
mocked of whole idea of going
to the
bank and I don't even care
where these
played the whole thing or not
you can go
to the bank and get bridge
loans it's
not that big of a deal and then
he
emphasized the Washington Post
bullcrap
article but oh yeah but it's
thank where they going to
payday loans
what kind of a loan and are we
talking
about here so that was a
bullcrap report
so these are these are blatant
lies by
the big boys yeah and done on
purpose
purposely I mean okay I totally
believe
Don Lemon just looked at the
clip just
the one little clip that
everyone was
passing around on social media
and
obviously democracy now is no
better
just that clip just make fun of
the
asshole old guy NBC Saturday
Night Live
make him look like he's the
like he's
death himself guy definitely
does not
have a media presence that is
very
helpful to what what is going
on here
but it's disingenuous and
really just a
lie to say that people were you
know
couldn't get and just couldn't
get any
money a car gonna lose my house
yes
bullshit that was on NBC NBC
you say
that like it means something
anymore
well I did more reach than we
do and I
and I could but and I commend
every
single credit union I love
credit unions
hey banks can do this to know
bad credit
I think credit unions are
better than
banks I'm not gonna argue that
point
yeah but these this can be done
by at a
bank level if you have a good
relationship with a bank but
Okuda wait
Don Lemon sees it this is an
elitist
thing yeah you're too stupid to
go to a
bank well how did you get your
car well
you got your car probably from
GMAC
maybe didn't I have the UFC you
the
University Federal Credit Union
I'm like
you know let me I don't
I ran the air stream through
there so I
don't really do that much
business with
them anymore but like you know
why don't
I go take a look and see and
yeah lo and
behold they said it right there
we can
offer you zero right in might
in the
bill or the the state this is
the paper
the statement we can offer you
0% loan
if you're if you if you're if
you're
furloughed or not getting a
check due to
the shutdown contact us we'll
be happy
to help you
so it is just a lie and it
doesn't
matter because that's just what
we'll
always think forever that will
just be
that will be the truth from now
on out
and it's too bad that this
little
podcast doesn't have enough
reach to let
the world know how really
disgusting
this reporting was across the
board
right down to Washington Post
yeah well none of it unexpected
since it
just seems to be just all Trump
hate yes
and they were not giving the
public
actual information that's
valuable and
your point is very valid
because I know
that's what your point was it's
like
instead of doing this whole
what an
asshole what an elitist what a
dick you
know yeah do a little story
which local
news was all over we're talking
three
weeks ago they were already
doing this
this has been and you can just
look it
up go go to youtube and local
report
after local report with credit
unions
with their local guys say hey
we're
gonna help everybody out not a
problem
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I had a couple things that were
kind of
interesting oh yeah I wanna
want the 5g
Report now he's ready for the
5g report
sure okay well first of all we
got a I
know if you saw this email I
forget
which producer sent this but he
it turns
out PC Magazine is now it's
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they have a new story they
tweeted out
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here's a look at the four
biggest
changes to come for smartphones
and
mobile devices 5g it's coming
in 2019
and it's gonna change your life
just another data point and why
you're
that same article appeared in
Mashable
which they also own now right
presented
by Qualcomm who are the company
when it
comes to five year a company
that is the
company could be the downfall of
Qualcomm well you know I I
gotta tell
you we've been talking about
this you
think it may not happen
I think it's we're too late I
got a note
from one of our producers in in
Texas
who's in the biz so to say and
all this
went down in 2017
Austin already has 5g
transmitter
now it's the AT&T version
whatever the
heck that means there's $500
300 in
Houston it's already done
it this it's over it's already
accessed
under well here okay
you had other problems in
Berkeley here
is the report from 2017 just
before the
vote was made and really the
only thing
that Austin was pushing back on
is how
much money they would get
Purcell
installed that's the only thing
and when
you hit an you know we're in
session
here the legislation the
legislature and
it and the whole town is filled
with
money people just walking
around just
doling out cash left and right
so this
is a report from 2017 so you
kind of get
a background as to how long
this has
been playing the future of
wireless
technology especially for 5g
will be ran
through little cell towers
across cities
known as nodes there aren't any
up and
running in Austin just yet but
several
hundred are expected after city
officials came to an agreement
with
major telecommunications
companies in
October that agreement has
Austin
getting fifteen hundred dollars
per node
per year that could change this
legislature is weighing in
that's Adler
our fate mode mayor with
considerable
weight mayor Adler is worried
about a
bill scheduled for a vote
Wednesday that
could cap the fee at 250
dollars for
each device every year losing
big money
for the city Austin would also
lose some
control about where these
devices are
placed on public lands now the
legislature is stepping in and
taking
what is highly coveted public
space and
turning it into cheap utility
corridors
so far the bill has nearly
unanimous
support at the Capitol that's
to give
our customers and effortless
wireless
customer experience AT&T is a
major
supporter of the bill and says
it's
necessary to bring tomorrow's
technology
to Texas quickly things like 4k
video
the Internet of Things what the
powers
smart cities they all start
with 5g it's
a fight over money and who
calls the
shots for 5g coming to cities
in Texas
so that was 2017 the bill
passed of
course
the 22nd what do I was
listening to that
it sounded like they were gonna
get
$1500 per node yeah and then it
went
down to 250 and that's what
passed no
that's not what passed it
passed at 750
that was 1,500 no that's what
that's
that's what they wanted the the
lobbyists wouldn't pay a
lobbyist paid
everyone off to move it down oh
that's
what you do yeah that's how you
so it
wasn't about is it safe should
we have
it is it effective is it good
for us
just how much money is the city
gonna
get that was the only question
the
20,000 satellites to date here
these are
the 5g satellites let me just
tell you
what's already been deployed
SpaceX is
deployed half of their 12,000
satellite
allotment oneweb is looking at
45 4560
boeing is just under 3000
inspire global
oh I don't know who that is
they're
looking at 970 to 5g 300
they're saying
300 watts I find that hard to
believe
that that's what they're gonna
be pumped
from from out of space I don't
what
power they're gonna use for
that but I
don't know we went to the moon
Tom
wheeler who was then FCC
chairman in
2016 did a speech which I
cannot find
the original from sadly because
what he
says now this is three years
ago what he
says in this speech at the
National
Press Club which is why I find
it weird
I can't find the original and
it has
some music mixed in it which
just pisses
me off but it's it's pretty much
unedited as far as I can tell
but even
the things he's saying are
clear enough
this is what he was touting to
the Press
Club in 2016 that's the that's
the
people in DC who are supposed
to report
on these things the big game
changer is
the 5g will use much higher
frequency
bands than previously thought
viable for
mobile broadband and other
applications
such millimeter wave signals
have
physical properties that are
both a
limitation and a strength they
tend to
travel best in narrow and
straight lines
and they do not go through
physical
objects as well but
brilliant engineers have
developed new
antennas that can aim and
amplify
signals now to make this work
five the
5p build-out is going to be very
infrastructure intensive
requiring
massive
deployment of small cells I'm
confident
that the efforts will lead to a
cornucopia of unanticipated
innovative
uses and will generate tens of
billions
of dollars in economic activity
and
that's damn important because
it means
that US companies will be the
first out
of the gate and that is why 5g
is a
national priority and stay out
of the
way of technological development
unlike some countries we do not
believe
that we should spend the next
couple of
years studying what five days
should be
how it should operate or if
it's safe
the future has a way of
inventing itself
turning innovators loose is far
preferable to expecting
committees and
regulators to define the future
we won't
wait for the standards to seize
this
opportunity Verizon and AT&T
tell us
they'll begin deploying 5g
trials in
2017 and the first commercial
deployments they're talking
about are
expected in 2020 and we're not
done as
part of our July 14 action we
also plan
to ask for comments on opening
up other
high frequency bands many of
the high
frequency bands that we will
make
available for 5g currently have
some
satellite users as well as some
Defense
Department applications or at
least the
possibility of future satellite
and
defense users this means
sharing will be
required between satellite and
terrestrial wireless an issue
that is
especially relevant the 28th
Iger Hertz
ban
but if anyone tells you that
they know
the details of what 5g is gonna
become
run the other way if something
can be
connected it will be connected
hundreds
of billions of microchips
connected in
products from pill bottles to
plant
waterers we must reject the
notion that
the 5g future will be the sole
providence of urban areas the
5g you
revolution will touch all
corners of our
country yeah our antenna citing
decisions by local governments
and
tightened our shot clock for
citing
application reviews America's
local
governments will play an
important role
in determining how we fulfill
this
national priority you can be
sure only
one thing the biggest Internet
of Things
application as yet to be
imagined that
was the FCC Chairman at the
time I think
his words are pretty clear and
all these
municipalities all they were
thinking
about is can I get the 1500
instead of
the 250 I don't think about
anything
else and I had forgotten about
the the
capability of of RFID you know
to
connect at short distance to
these 5g
spots which will be everywhere
and it
truly becomes a kind of cool
spy grid
it's quite mind-boggling and
that in
that aspect I think he's right
but to
say that this is not happening
or that
some reports of your home value
going
down or health I don't I think
it's
unstoppable that video you and
I watched
over the weekend this is this
is what it
is this is the this is the this
is the
banking the future on this of
the the
money expansion you know
capitalist
system of the liberal bankers
is this
that's that's what they put all
they
climate changed it kind of
doesn't work
stupid Trump but even Trump is
dumb
enough to fall for this well
that a dad
I will say yes well anybody
generally
speaking that generation is
gonna be too
dumb to realize the issues with
this
technology but okay we'll see I
I have
high hopes that the there be
enough
be enough action and I'm seeing
a lot
more action on this and I've
seen a lot
of different things squeaky
wheels and I
think a lot of its gonna come
from
California yeah probably
well I'm Texas apparently just
knuckles
under to a need you know to bit
some God
comes in hey this guy came in
and he
offered me ten cents to do this
I'll
take it it's better than no ten
cents
wow that was really quite
awesome of you
to do there in California now
I'm hoping
for an earthquake so y'all can
die well
you can do what wish for all
you want
but I got my ten cents
I hope the fires reach your
house Dvorak
racist man just racist
hey it's white privilege oh I'm
sorry
yeah we're rednecks down here
we are
white white neck privilege stop
it I'm
gonna I bet you I'll find some
some 5g
in Berkeley you know it's
already
happening okay the last place
to do 5g
that's but it's coming it's
coming and
you know and they're gonna
place it at
your house first because they
deep
platformed you over your
negative
article what am I gonna do so
the first
thing they're gonna do is they
hey
Dvorak look look out the window
baby you
won't see mudflats you'll just
see this
beam of light coming India the
soft soft
skin under your eyes already
get the
tinfoil so that will help
actually
I just have an oddball clip okay
actually I said this is the end
of the
show well then let me just play
I have a
background if we want to listen
to it
but we didn't get to a kind of
an
important part of brexit even
though
brexit isn't really the story
but France
and Germany signed the Treaty
of Aachen
they now two weeks ago and the
Treaty of
oktin Akkad Aachen
like the city Aach en yes I see
yeah
it's a city the Treaty of
Aachen yes I
know it's the city the Treaty
of Aachen
and this treaty brings the
Germans and
French even closer together
which is
kind of what the whole breaks
of thing
if we don't want the whole idea
of the
European Union yeah is like we
really
don't want people pairing off
like
Germany and France being all
buddy-buddy
and it specifically states they
will do
more to share military
resources I mean
and very little coverage I mean
you got
coverage in Europe and if you
want I
have a two minute background
err which
is kind of interesting just
from a story
all during this process they
drilled a
nice underground tunnel so they
could
invade Britain quickly quickly
easily you want to hear this
little
background there two minutes
it's a
history lesson okay here we go
Frances president Immanuel my
corn is
really speaking German and the
German
Chancellor Angela Merkel is
speaking
French
during their mutual visit to the
french-german youth center last
summer
they were clearly among friends
but it
wasn't always this way shortly
before
the end of the Second World War
French
soldiers moved into southern
Germany
this after Hitler had occupied
and
humiliated France for years
German
soldiers became French
prisoners of war
and it looked as if these tried
and true
enemies would always be at war
with each
other but the head of the French
military troops was Charles de
Gaulle
and ten years later when he
became
president he had great plans
while at
his private Country residents
Columbia
LeDoux's eglise he shook hands
with West
Germany's post-war Chancellor
Konrad
Adenauer and in 1963 the two of
them
signed the Elysee Treaty of
German
French friendship president de
Gaulle
wanted to join forces with his
German
partner to become a world power
and 18
years after the end of the
Nazis the
young West German Republic
wanted to
return to the community of
nations and
renew friendships with their
European
Democratic allies the West
German
celebrated the key to the
newfound
friendship was young people who
were
untouched by the hatred that
motivated
their parents the german french
hughes
project was founded and even
today it
brings together more than nine
million
members from both countries
through its
exchange program the Chancellor
and the
president planned a common
political
agenda in Europe and the world
good
friends valid Aegis card estar
and
Helmut Schmidt found a
coalition of the
seven most important industrial
nations
in the world
the g7 in 1984 president
Francois mentor
all and Chancellor Helmut Kohl
shook
hands invade our close to the
graves of
the First World War
they wanted to show Europe that
the
worst enemies had become
closest of
allies today Germany and France
continued to meet daily to
discuss
European policy they even
cooperate
militarily on weapons programs
and in
conflict zones such as in Mali
it's an
alliance that 80 years ago
nobody would
have thought possible and even
though
the French don't donate to the
show I
will give you some advice I
would lock
up my bike
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just saying I'm from Holland
you know I
don't know we got some
experience with
that so but isn't the Dutch and
the
Germans always good buddies
until that
war broke out and they stole
all the
bikes yeah I stole they still
looking
for the bike back I know you
went after
Anne Frank oh god don't get me
started
go on know that I had that I
thought
maybe you do and we have a
pretty
eclectic mix of end of show
mixes so we
can do one or two more clips
and we'll
get into that and I do I got a
couple
clips but I'm gonna just go
with the one
and it's gonna be this is
Michael
Bennett he's from Colorado and
he is
senator and he made say he had
to go on
and on the Senate floor to
bitch and
moan about Trump was like a
filibuster
Democrat sorry you see a
Republican
Democrat okay and I think he
was drunk I
don't know about that drunk on
power
maybe let's play this clip this
build a
medieval wall across the
southern border
of Texas take it from the
farmers and
ranchers that were there I
listen to
MSNBC most of the time during
the day
just it's the most entertaining
thing
you can imagine and he did some
interviews and they were like
all Gd on
and man like is great why I
mean you you
really spoke truth to power
about
through the germs of power by
it was
really fantastic I found the
will heard
clip that I was missing on the
last show
about about the the the smart
wall and
let's listen to this when we
talk about
the physical barriers the guy
have as
you said I have 800 miles of
water a
border excuse me and I've
always said
building a wall from sea to
shining sea
does it make
but in certain places it does
make sense
whether it's urban it's an
urban contact
we need technology we need to
be looking
at all 2,000 miles of border at
the same
time the only way you can do
that
technology we need additional
manpower
and so there's already a bill
that most
Democrats are voted on it's
called the
secure fact the secure Fence
Act and it
was amended in two years later
in that
amended bill all the leadership
of the
Democratic leadership right now
have
already voted on it there's
been much
publicized about how is Senator
Obama at
the time and Senator Clinton at
the time
had voted for this this should
be the
framework and there's there's
much
physical barriers that weren't
completed
in that these Timbs already
voted on
that that should be the
framework from
which we are looking have the
technology
make sure we double down in our
ports of
entry as we should know
everything that
goes back and forth across the
border
the head of the Department of
Homeland
Security should be able to say
I want to
know what's going at mile
marker 36 and
they should be able to pop up
I'm not
describing some futuristic Star
Trek
episode I'm describing that
this is
technology that exists today
that we
should be using along the
border we're
not right now but there's
programs that
are in existent that to do that
but they
can't move forward because
we're in the
middle of a shutdown look I
spent almost
a decade as an undercover
officer in the
CIA I was the guy in the back
alleys
collecting intelligence on
threats of
our homeland Wow that's not how
most
spooks I know talk amen I was
that guy
in the dark alley like
protecting you
from the terrorists sounds a
little
little too much the bullcrap
were in the
CIA I was a guy in the back
alleys
collecting intelligence on
threats to
our homeland
I did this in dangerous places
like
Pakistan and Afghanistan I was
in India
chasing bad guys terrorists al
Qaeda you
name it stopping nuclear weapons
proliferators this is what I
did and
when you look we got to
remember the
drug trafficking organizations
and
kingpin human smugglers that are
operating in Mexico they don't
have to
worry about government
shutdowns they're
make the they're making sixty
seven
billion dollars a year in the
United
States and guess what the US
intelligence budget is only 61
billion
so we have to
look at every mile of border
and make
sure we're using the right
tools for
that part of the border because
every
mile is different that's
something I've
seen having the largest largest
amount
of border if anyone in Congress
yeah I
think that I think herd knows
what's
coming down the pike and I
think it'll
be some some version of a combo
and one
of our producers who wanted to
remain
anonymous has actually worked
with these
fiber-optic listening cables he
says
they're really incredibly good
you can
hear you can pinpoint exactly
bait it's
vibrations it picks up all
kinds of
stuff he says it's very very
good the
problem is it doesn't stop
anybody just
alerts you to something that's
happening
it's somehow yeah and Trump is
kind of
simplistic in that way he's
like now if
you're running you hit the wall
it stops
you but I think herds basic
ideas
probably was to what's coming
down
because it were you're hearing
more and
more like well wait a minute
you know the Democrats actually
voted
for this stuff you know no this
does all
been playing on the way don't
just
exploit it orange man bad it is
being
exploited to makes borange man
look
better all right yes all right
everybody
I think we've earned our
stripes for
today I want to thank Danny
Luce Tom
Starkweather and Alex who
helped them
out galloped sir Chris Wilson
of course
for the end of show mixes of
fantastic
lineup today
and I'll play the the love-hate
Trump's
on the next two many clips in
the next
show
and Thursday Superbowl
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