Cover for No Agenda Show 1141: Nadster
May 26th, 2019 • 2h 49m

1141: Nadster

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and into a droid
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Adam curry nation media assassination
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episode 1141 this is no agenda
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everybody Madame Curie from northern
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Silicon Valley where we're awaiting 1999
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kw4 I know I'm missing some cultural
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reference no you're missing the fact
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that an asteroid with a moon fling fling
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and or an asteroid that's shaped like a
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spinning top uh-huh a little bitty moon
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going around it I is it headed towards
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us is it going to slam into us no ow oh
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my god gravitational pull though it at
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least jerk that moon out of orbit how
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far away is it I don't know I know it he
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was hitting space junk
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oh it's not that close space junk is
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pretty close to her in the scheme of
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things pretty close to the surface Oh
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totally you know I was looking up
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because of this 2024 won't first woman
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on the first woman next man on the moon
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mission and first of all well first of
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all the the NASA exec quit just a few
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weeks after he was appointed because
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apparently you know the budget is not
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not what you thinks it should be or yeah
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mark sir angela was tapped evasion spend
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so much money wasting it on global
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warming studies well so funny so here's
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here's my here's what I've been looking
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at the the main thing people say why we
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haven't been to the moon since the 60s
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and 70s essentially 50 years ago for the
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first time is a cost issue this is what
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I keep hearing everyone say like can we
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really we pulled out all the stops we
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just we've poured all the money we had
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into it and we made it to the moon
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so the total cost of the entire Apollo
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program which includes all of the
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rockets every all the six missions that
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landed on the moon was twenty five point
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four billion dollars as reported to
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Congress in 1973
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yeah adjusted for inflation that would
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be a 150 billion dollars today I don't
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believe that number I believe that never
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be closer to 250 you have to you're
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using the bogus inflation numbers that
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the government have been dude this is
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the real just before you get into that
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so 250 million that's fine billion
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billion divided by 6 is 41 billion
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dollars for one mission to go to the
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moon yeah well she's affordable well
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right now nASA has a total budget of
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about 20 billion with some bullcrap
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extra let's give him another billion to
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take him to the moon are we serious
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about this or not how much is it really
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gonna cost do we not want to 50 billion
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50 billion well there's no 50 billion
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being spent so I don't see how it'll
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ever happen you think the whole thing's
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is just a public relations scam oh I
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can't wait until I was 20 24 can't come
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fast enough for me to laugh my ass off
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Wow okay I just don't I can't take it
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seriously if we're not gonna put up the
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right amount of money well then I don't
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take it seriously anyway well this is a
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fact somebody write up the story of the
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Saturn 5 rocket that's the thing that
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got it if we went to the moon that's how
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we got there we don't even have a rocket
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that's half that size doesn't seem like
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such a big deal is it so hard to just
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build a bigger rocket
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I don't know why they haven't built
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another Saturn 5 that was the biggest
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rocket we've ever built
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Steve's the things decisive Empire State
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Building it's as huge really is that's
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all that's crazy no that's not that tall
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but that would be kind of cool don't you
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think
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well okay more misinformation Dvorak
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you're not helping that's confusing me
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ah I just want to mention one thing and
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maybe you've had this moment but we were
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reviewing some of the pictures and
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videos mainly videos from the wedding
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extravaganza of the century uh-huh and I
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have to say with sadness and
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disappointment that I really believe I'm
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a better dancer than I am holy crap I
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look complete I'm just gonna have to say
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it I look retarded
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it's a whore and I'm thinking like yeah
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baby I'm nailing this here everybody and
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I look like a like I was like one of
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those things outside of the second-hand
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car dealership those inflatable there's
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all over the place is horrible horrible
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oh I've really thought I was better than
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that well so I had to do something to
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make myself feel good and I spent the
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past your race the videos I wish no I
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spent the past two days doing something
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that promised for many years and I
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finally got it together
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Zumba closed pod father gear.com I
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finally documented it wrote it all up
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exported all my settings pod father gear
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calm you can and it's all there you can
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see what I use my own configuration
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files you can install them get
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everything up and running with my
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baseline shows exactly which widgets and
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and boxes I use released under the value
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for value model of course well let's
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stop immediately here and the value
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value Mel's gonna pay zero
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yard there's nothing I'm not running a
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bunch of cheap crap no well no it's not
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cheap but it's not crazy expensive
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either just close to it for most
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podcasters the main box is five hundred
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and ninety five dollars and you can get
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quite away with with that I mean that
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you'd still don't have to get it by the
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plugins no no no mark of the unicorn you
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were talking about mark of the unicorn
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has the compressor limiter EQ all of
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that built in you need no extra no extra
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stuff so I'm basically on on a a
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bare-bones box I'm running barefoot John
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ooh you almost sound like Alex Jones
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doing that done it it was my CD trucker
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yeah anyway Alex Joe the same thing
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anyway so I put it all up there and
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hopefully and I also realized that as
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I'm putting that sound like I could
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probably make a good sound on any device
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I think about it just with the right
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amount of time and and to be fair with
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the right partner who is incredibly
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consistent and doesn't mind counting to
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a hundred as often as I ask them to you
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can say that but the other side of it is
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you're not gonna do that a for sure do
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what just try to try to make good sound
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on anything because you're your real
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goal is to make the whole thing so
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portable that you could go travel with
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you that means exactly do that with just
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anything you can't have a true bunch of
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big boxes after this exercise and I'm
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kind of looking around like I wonder
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what other visit any new boxes out there
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I'm just looking stuff like I could
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probably make it work with that I could
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make it work with that they're all this
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nothing is cheaper nothing is is geared
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towards podcasters but now at least
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people have a little example of of how I
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do it
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Horowitz uses the dreaded road caster
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and he blew out his files blew up Oh
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what happens you hear about this no no
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no I mean he's he sends me stuff all the
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time we discussed the sound and I'll ask
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him what he's doing and you know this
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sometimes it's better than others but he
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didn't tell me about the files blowing
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up yeah a couple the first time he used
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the road caster he had to use the backup
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files because the road hazard didn't
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blow up the whole file by a trash the
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end of the file
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oh so they had yes I'm sort of a EOF
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problem she had to pull it from tape huh
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I had recorded it using the recording
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capabilities of Skype and unbeknownst to
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me it automatically sends him the file
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huh I didn't know you can do that with
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Skype do what record is that stock now
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with Skype it would appear to start
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recording Wow look at that start
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recording us right in there yeah huh I
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thought you were arguing with me the
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other day that it was always there start
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recording let me see what and then when
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you did at least this case but it's done
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no my guess is maybe some sort of a
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courtesy so I just record a little bit
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and then finalizing so it'll probably
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send that to you no interesting I had no
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idea well those skype guys aren't stupid
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and it is part of my standard set up I
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even show how to configure it anyway so
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that made me feel much better about my
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my
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dream Lee white boy dancing it's not as
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I look like an old man have the video
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available to me I had no idea John don't
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worry I wouldn't want to you know did
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you do the conga well without looking
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like an old fart and we forgot to
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mention that
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Andrew Horowitz and his wife started a
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conga line at the wedding I have to say
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that was from one too many cruise that
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was fantastic
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never expected things I never expected
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at my wedding a conga line and then he's
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like hey we're gonna do Soul Train now
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jamun
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the DJ the only black guy at the wedding
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is like raising his eyebrows like you
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doing Soul Train okay anyway hey um I
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can reach to make whit let's start with
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that
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yeah yeah that was pretty interesting I
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do have the last tears yeah I got the
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end of the touchy talk to her about ten
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minutes they made it sound she's bawling
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all the way through just cracked at the
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end yeah she at the end she finally
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folded and she would want it wandered
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off and they have all these pictures of
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her there floating around I had one in
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the newsletter of her just making a kind
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of a sorrowful face and of course the
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media when she cried her way through it
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you know they go on and on that the
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British media hated her for some reason
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nobody about the British public hates
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her
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I will shortly leave the job that it has
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been the honor of my life to hold
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the second female Prime Minister I'm
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calling bullshit here Dvorak I think you
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slowed this down the maker said more
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emotional but certainly not the last I
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do so with no ill will but with enormous
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and enduring gratitude to have had the
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opportunity to serve the country all
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that is nice so just serve the country I
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love actually mine does sound a bit
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faster than yours you hear that yeah
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maybe it is there's nobody much but it
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just kind of showed oh you'd love to you
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didn't get the end of because I
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definitely boosted the clip-clop
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clip-clop as she left
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oh no I cut that off of the the I so I
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have it in my clip but it was so what
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this really showed is for two seconds
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for a moment there the reptilian gene
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slunk away and it was a human being who
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cared about something as sadly was
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herself and that's I think what the
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British public took took what is the
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word I'm looking for
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took offense to they're like whoa now
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you cry now you've had a problem yeah
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maybe but it wasn't it wasn't like we
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didn't expect and yeah pass the first
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rebuke of her idea gotta gather you now
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what happens mojo mojo I don't think so
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I think it's gonna be I think his Gulf
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this guy gov gov it goes he's gonna be
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the guy think he's gonna get in hmm he's
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a brexit guy probably a little more of
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the hell with it let's just get out
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mm-hmm which I think Boris Johnson would
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be like that too
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to some extent of course he would that's
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the that's what he's all about
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there's never been any reason to do
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these deals you got WTO as your as your
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backup right
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okay so who's this guy gov I mean now
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and now I need to know you can't just
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play a clip of Theresa May and then say
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I think is gonna be someone else well
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it's gonna be someone else no matter who
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it is but hey I expected more you don't
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have it okay I don't have it in front of
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you no because it wasn't I should have
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said anything but he's the guy he's been
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around he's been floating around he's
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like one of the he's like Reese MOG that
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guy mm-hmm who's also there's a very
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old-fashioned British career talks you
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know very slowly and deliberately and
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they there's a lot of the understatement
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right and this is one of the two guys
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this gum care achter well what will be
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interesting to see later today is all
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the returns of the European Parliament
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elections to see how the brexit party
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did that's Faraj is EU party yeah I
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think that may even matter a little bit
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more now who cares who comes in and in
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Britain they have no intention of
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briggsie no matter who it is
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don't care if it's Boris Johnson they
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have no intention of doing that people's
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vote and do-over you did it wrong do it
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again the bankers in London you think
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they feel that this better off
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everything's better off of things the
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way they are with this connection to the
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EU and they can be the little banking
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community a little Switzerland in the
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middle of the bridle of the UK right
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doing their thing and cleaning up on on
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service fees and the expectation is that
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a lot of populist / nationalist leaders
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and parties will gain a foothold in the
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European Parliament didn't turn out that
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way and then although it was an
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interesting and good result for a very
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young party there's the the F V D the
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forum for Democracy party which is
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right-wing but and distance themselves
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from from feared builder's party and
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Haiti so he would be right right right
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wing and they're like kind of right-wing
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but they came in third so they do get a
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couple of seats in European Parliament
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but it was the Workers Party the party
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of the workers PvdA with our boy
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upfront it would be this holiday yes yes
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at the spits in Canada that would be my
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my globalist buddy France timber months
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so there's a he has he has a really good
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shot a junker who's exiting the position
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did an interview with they it was CNN
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International and he was asked about you
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know this very issue what do you think
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about the populist the nationalists who
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are rising all over Europe and his
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response went noted by many these
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populist nationalist countries of the
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European Union society don't like those
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coming from far away I do like those
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come from coming from far away because
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the main guiding principle of the
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European units would be solidarity they
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are stupid they love their own countries
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like a non sequitur it's about unity
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what well if you're a globalist it is a
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unity yeah now we're talking but those
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who who love their own country they
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stupid doesn't that just say enough
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right there yeah it pretty much sums it
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up how stupid are you that you love your
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own country yeah let me see that again
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this populist nationalist stupid so
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naturally country it's crazy
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love with their own country why do you
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do this this is not good they want to
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love the European Union good luck with
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that well it's always been a fool's
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errand yes just a certain degree for
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sure for sure um let me see
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well there is stuff going on I don't
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know exactly where to start talk about
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my speeds being off you
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so he has some issues with my browser I
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fixed it with your browser before they
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fixed that I had stuff that sounds like
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this place squeaky Jew this is a Judith
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Woodward on on the NewsHour squeaky judy
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- no 1 or 2 2 to play - and now we turn
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to the analysis of shields and Brooks
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that is syndicated columnist mark
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shields and New York Times columnist
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David Brooks huh now - now you play
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squeaky brooks
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squeaky brooks hold on confusing me here
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if when I look at the Salafis candidates
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them yeah I heard this with you with
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with your previous clip it sounds like a
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doubling or something there's something
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weird if when I look at the Salafis
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candidates I'm first struck by how the
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self-esteem movement was actually very
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effective it sounds like you're
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recording it twice like it's going
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through science it's almost phasing but
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I look at the president are you is this
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an effect you're doing to make it happen
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don't worry about it's never gonna
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happen again
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well okay this is interesting though
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that this happened to you because this
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was one of the most to me very
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interesting Ministry of Truth eNOS
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exercises that we went through with this
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the doctored video
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before we play the did you get to die
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did I don't think I have a copy of I do
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it right for you i watch it last night I
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have the I do have this to play I have
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the event at which Pelosi was on she was
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at some some progressive deal and she I
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see where my Pelosi Trump walk out I
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mean I have the clip that you're talking
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about so I have all this I suppose
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Pelosi at progressives events is the
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clip I'm talking about okay this is the
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actual feed from the event at regular
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speed and she sounds terrible I mean the
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yeah they slowed her way down and make
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her sound drunk but they used to do that
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with George stop stop no stop stop
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you're going you're going way way ahead
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of what's happening here
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alright first then okay I'm just gonna
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keep your clip there I think it's long I
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see so I just want to make sure that we
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get to the action first the genesis of
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what happened because there was the
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back-and-forth between Trump and Pelosi
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which started with Pelosi and let me see
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the one that I want here is now you've
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confused me I was so right oh here we go
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yes this is the back and forth this
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thing keeps escalating in a brawl of
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words after the infrastructure meeting
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imploded yesterday and the president
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said basically call me when you're done
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investigating and then we will get some
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work done
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Nancy Pelosi did not like that so she
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called him basically unwell I pray for
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the President of the United States I
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wish that his family or his
21:40
administration or his staff would have
21:42
an intervention for the good of the
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country
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I am so the president was not happy
21:50
about that ever the counter-puncher late
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today he let her have it over the
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inaction on the new trade deal with
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Mexico and Canada that he very much
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wants to get signed
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she's a mess look let's face it she
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doesn't understand it and they sort of
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feel she's disintegrating before the
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rush crazy Nancy can I tell you what
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I've been watching her and I have I have
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been watching her for a long period of
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time she's not the same person she's
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lost it it was sad when I watched Nancy
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all-moving the movement in the hands and
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the craziness and I watched that's by
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the way a person that's got some
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problems okay
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this was the genesis of the back and
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forth and then the president tweeted out
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this video we had a little custody
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custody of the border preparing border
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everyone and they started making sending
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signals the US Mexico Canada if that's
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not the accurate some people call it
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after NAFTA some call it and after two
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point over working together to make that
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pass that not where with the fact the
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three things there are three things
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there are three things that was the
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exact video that I got it from his tweet
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the Trump tweeted out that was not
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slowed down and the reason why the three
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things three things three things was
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repeated because she keeps holding up
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two fingers when she says three things
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so it made her look very stupid it was
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edited of her bumbling and stumbling but
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it was not slowed down but this is what
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interests me is the the team Pelosi or
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whatever bugle call goes out immediately
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uh-oh she looks like she has medical
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issues and this distraction was created
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and I'm not quite sure how it you know
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how maybe Rudy Giuliani had to do this
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to do with something but then then then
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that for a little while there for maybe
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an hour to Trump tweeted out a fake
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video
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doctored videos and then when they
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realized that it wasn't this slowed down
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video I have the example here from NBC
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about the impact that altered videos
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could have on the next election after a
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manipulated video of House Speaker Nancy
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Pelosi went viral and after the
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president retweeted another heavily
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edited video you see this it was
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fantastically done oh my god she looks
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like she's like she's she's dying she
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it's not a good video it's not a good
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look it's not a good sound they bring in
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some other video that was not even in
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play at all yes the Speaker of the House
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Tom Costello has that story
24:38
one day after that bitter and personal
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clash both President Trump and Speaker
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Pelosi were today dialing it down but
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tonight this video edited to make Pelosi
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appear as if she were slurring her words
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has gone viral raising serious concerns
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okay then they bring in experts on this
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thing Nessa's now that what Trump is
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tweeted is already behind us although
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Trump orange man bad he did tweeted out
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a doctored V now it's doctored it used
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to be heavily edited now it's doctored
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it's been doctored rated they combined
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the two items purposely and made it look
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as though Trump sent out the copies of
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the way I was talking slow and by the
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way I want to stop right now and mention
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they did this to Bush constantly of
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course they did of course but that and
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that's what I'm seeing here is complicit
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behavior we're not once have you seen
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the video on mainstream that Trump
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tweeted out instead you get stories like
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this
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we want to show you this video first
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we're going to show you the real video
25:42
of Nancy Pelosi speaking a couple of
25:44
days ago and then we're going to show
25:45
you the fake one which has been slowed
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down the audio slowed down to make it
25:49
appear as if speaker Pelosi has been
25:52
slurring her words and then he had a
25:54
press conference in the Rose Garden with
25:56
all this short sort of visuals that
25:59
obviously were planned long before and
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then he had a press conference in the
26:04
Rose Garden we
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this sure visuals that obviously were
26:11
planned long before so you can hear that
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edit there you know when you see it
26:16
side-by-side it might seem obvious but
26:17
when you encounter this on your Facebook
26:19
newsfeed as a standalone it might not
26:22
seem as obvious and look you know
26:24
doctored videos hoaxes online if very
26:27
obvious or as old as the internet itself
26:30
what is unprecedented oh is social media
26:32
gives people the ability to put a fake
26:35
video out there and have a quickly
26:36
viewed by millions of people this video
26:39
has been removed from YouTube they said
26:41
that it broke their policies that it is
26:44
misleading Facebook on the other hand
26:46
the video is still updating if they
26:48
essentially said it doesn't break their
26:49
rules that they are having fact-checkers
26:51
take a look at it but just a few minutes
26:53
ago I checked online one version of the
26:55
video on Facebook has been viewed almost
26:56
two and a half million times Twitter the
27:00
president's favorite social media
27:01
platform had nothing to say about this
27:04
video which is still circulating on
27:06
their platform this morning Tony I think
27:08
it is really incumbent upon us to
27:10
educate read how their doctor yes that's
27:20
our job we're here to inform you
27:22
citizens that you need to look out for
27:23
these doctored videos but the video that
27:27
that it started with is not even played
27:29
anymore now it's just gone into this
27:31
complete stratosphere and by the way
27:34
YouTube took it off YouTube took the
27:38
video down Facebook didn't this was a
27:41
problem for CIA mockingbirds Anderson
27:45
Cooper he just could not believe what
27:48
was happening and I got two clips I'm so
27:51
happy he spent nine minutes with a
27:54
spokes hole from face bag why they
27:56
weren't and we're already beyond the
27:58
video Trump tweeted out this is now
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something away mm-hmm by the way they
28:03
the meet it was a meme characterization
28:06
that Trump refused to take the video
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down implying it was this video exactly
28:12
and you know I don't know who made who
28:15
made this slowed down video
28:18
the only place I've seen it is NBC but
28:21
NBC and CNN I think they made it they
28:24
made it listen to pooper with the
28:26
what's-her-name here this is the this is
28:31
vice president the vice-president of
28:34
product policy and counterterrorism
28:38
counterterrorism Monica Baker's Facebook
28:42
counterterrorism with Anderson Cooper so
28:44
Monica in the wake of the 2016 election
28:46
obviously Facebook has repeatedly told
28:48
Congress the American people that you're
28:50
serious about fighting disinformation
28:51
and fake news yet this doctorate video I
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think your own fact checkers acknowledge
28:57
is doctored of a speaker Pelosi remains
28:59
on your platform this word doctored it's
29:02
never it was always deceptively edited
29:04
now we've come I wonder where the term
29:06
doctored who launched that besides NBC
29:10
you have or CNN doctored and what does
29:13
that mean it's just by the way I want to
29:14
put this in the same category as glitch
29:16
yes what exactly does doctored mean
29:19
thank you doctored definition is that a
29:23
good thing if I'm doctor doesn't mean
29:24
I'm getting healthier Adams been
29:28
doctored it treat someone medically he
29:32
contemplated giving up doctoring being
29:34
doctored okay why well you know first
29:38
off I think the suggestion there is that
29:39
we haven't taken action and that's not
29:41
right we have acted anybody who is
29:44
seeing this video in news feed anyone
29:46
who is going to share it to say I listen
29:48
to this so face bag didn't take it down
29:50
but listen to what they do when
29:52
Washington DC puts out a call but he
29:54
else anybody who has shared it in the
29:56
past they are being alerted that this
29:58
video is false and this is part of the
30:00
way that we deal with misinformation we
30:02
work with the internationally certified
30:05
fact-checking organizations
30:07
internationally certified oh where can
30:12
we get some certifications the certifier
30:14
that's why I stopped I'd love to know
30:17
certifier who's the certified we stopped
30:21
hold on don't stop again let me guess
30:24
Cooper immediately asks a sir
30:28
who is the certifier for this this this
30:32
fact-checking operation who who does the
30:35
certification were you watching sure to
30:37
pass they are being alerted that this
30:40
video is false and this is part of the
30:42
way that we deal with misinformation we
30:44
work with the internationally certified
30:47
fact-checking organizations that are
30:49
independent from Facebook and we think
30:50
these are the right organizations to be
30:52
making decisions about whether something
30:53
is true or false and as soon as we get
30:56
and we did in this case it's just we get
30:58
a rating from them that content is false
31:00
then we dramatically reduce the
31:02
distribution of that content and we love
31:04
you people it's false so they can make
31:06
an informed choice
31:06
whatwhy cleans it up yeah if there were
31:09
misinformation that was let's say it
31:11
tied to an ongoing riot or the threat of
31:13
some physical violence somewhere in the
31:15
world we would work with safety
31:17
organizations on the ground to confirm
31:19
falsity and the links of violence and
31:21
then we actually would remove that
31:22
misinformation that doesn't promote
31:25
violence but misinformation that you
31:28
know portrays the third most powerful
31:31
you know politician in for some how
31:37
impaired that's fine that's fine so the
31:41
International fact-check Network has a
31:44
code of principles and an advisory board
31:48
the international fact-checking network
31:50
has seven councillors who represent the
31:52
geographical diversity of the network
31:55
they are pioneers in the development and
31:57
implementation of fact-checking in their
31:59
countries and regions all board members
32:01
are unpaid the advisory boards main role
32:06
is to help oversee the verification
32:08
process of the code of principles but it
32:11
is also consulted on all matters of
32:13
other decisions that have an
32:14
international relevance for fact
32:16
checkers let's meet them let's meet
32:18
these advisors let's see who we have
32:19
here
32:20
Angie Hollen she is the editor of
32:23
PolitiFact
32:24
Clara Jimenez Cruz she is a Spanish
32:30
journal Glenn Kessler
32:34
editor-in-chief writer of the
32:35
fact-checker he is a journalism career
32:38
spanning more than three decades Govind
32:44
Raj Etheridge hmm he's from India
32:49
Laura Zoomer good four and let's see
32:54
well he has over 25 years focused on
32:56
fact-checking and fake news busting in
32:58
India 25 years the man is fantastic 25
33:04
years he's been doing this on the
33:05
internet apparently huh Laura zomer
33:08
editor-in-chief at XI Cueto the first
33:11
initiative of fact-checking and
33:12
verification of public discourse in
33:14
Latin America okay and no komak gato he
33:18
has extensive career in the media sector
33:20
as a journalist and manager twenty years
33:22
of experience in Africa oh and then we
33:26
have one more tease Jean Chevette Ninian
33:29
she's from Bosnia Herzegovina no one
33:32
from America
33:33
oh yeah a PolitiFact angie is from
33:35
PolitiFact yeah so those are the people
33:39
who determine who can be nobody from
33:42
Snopes now there they are member of the
33:45
fact-check network but here's how they
33:47
but if you want to if you want to become
33:51
a fact-checker
33:51
we can do it and we can actually I think
33:54
we should we can get a little
33:55
verification badge oh cool step one
33:58
application yes
34:00
which includes the non-refundable fee of
34:02
$200 okay
34:04
seem steep and then the assessment Oh
34:08
external Assessors will we'll check this
34:11
who are the external Assessors Lauren
34:16
bigot well there you go
34:19
Lauren bigot is the fizz the one who
34:22
will be looking at our assessment please
34:25
this is crazy
34:29
so it's a big intellectual network of
34:32
Yahoo's yeah theater now Cooper took it
34:36
one step further and this is really
34:37
really what gave me great joy to listen
34:40
to this because here you have him seeing
34:42
face bag is an incredible adversary and
34:45
they're not playing fair I guess I still
34:47
just don't logically understand I
34:50
understand you it's a it's a big
34:52
business to get into of trying to figure
34:54
out what's true or not but you're making
34:56
money by being in the news business if
34:58
you can't do it well shouldn't you just
35:00
get out of the news business now I'd
35:02
love that he's saying they're in the
35:04
news business all of a sudden okay I
35:07
reject the notion that we're not doing a
35:09
lot to counter misinformation I just say
35:11
you're not doing a lot I'm just saying
35:12
if you are you are in this particular
35:16
case is spreading and allowing the
35:18
spread I mean clearly false doctored
35:21
video again you're in the news business
35:24
there's a responsibility that comes with
35:26
that and this is this isn't even a
35:29
question
35:32
yeah
35:33
the doctored video itself tell me if I'm
35:37
wrong here is news work it's news of
35:40
course it is this news or news and it's
35:42
newsworthy so why wouldn't you believe
35:46
it as isn't just tell people we think
35:48
this is a fake just of course he knows
35:51
that the doctored video is news because
35:55
he's covering it all the crap this guy
35:58
well well but I think he's look he's
36:00
he's part of the system and for him to
36:04
say repeatedly you're in the news
36:05
business I think he was really drawing
36:08
her out he wanted her to admit that
36:10
they're in the news business cuz once
36:12
once face bag admits that then it's all
36:15
over then all of this the D platforming
36:18
neo hiding shadow banning lowering
36:22
significance in the feed all of this
36:24
stuff becomes very relevant to section
36:28
2:03 of the communications and indecency
36:32
act then all of a sudden you are
36:36
editorializing well they're not really
36:39
in the news business but you know I know
36:41
but he's trying to get her to admit to
36:44
it and saying by the mere fact you
36:47
distribute this you're in the news
36:50
business yeah and this is this isn't
36:54
even a question we are in the news
36:56
business we are in the social media
36:57
business to share the reason you're
37:00
sharing news is could you make money
37:02
from it it keeps people watching you oh
37:03
no I understand
37:05
if you make money from it then you're in
37:07
the news business okay thanks Anders to
37:09
learn more involved in your site which I
37:11
get and that's fair but if you're in the
37:13
news business which you are you got to
37:15
do it right and this is false
37:17
information you are spies doing it right
37:27
lovely ironic you got to do it right and
37:31
this is false information you are
37:33
spreading but we have a site where
37:36
people can come and share what they
37:38
think what's important to them the news
37:40
that they find relevant and when they do
37:42
that we want to make sure that they have
37:44
access to accurate information if
37:45
there's a threat of safety if we're
37:47
talking about terror propaganda that's
37:49
something where we can actually assess
37:51
that on its face and say yes we can pull
37:54
it down when you're talking to a
37:56
political discourse after nine minutes
37:58
of this crap yeah I'd be arks
38:04
information that's related to safety we
38:06
can and we do remove it Danny went on on
38:09
huh well while we're on the product
38:12
process if you got to do it right we
38:15
might as well play this from CNN this is
38:20
let's see this is the Scarborough on
38:23
Trump's mental decline Oh yesterday
38:26
President Trump continued dude what I
38:29
don't know yeah you're right something
38:31
went wrong with you say don't worry
38:32
about it fixed okay good Oh day
38:35
yesterday President Trump continued to
38:38
erupt last night because the house
38:41
speaker said that he threw a quote
38:43
temper tantrum tweeting after 9 p.m.
38:46
last night the president shared a video
38:50
edited to show Nancy Pelosi stammering
38:54
during a news conference with anchors
38:57
suggesting the speaker is in a mental
39:01
decline fake videos of Pelosi altered to
39:06
make her sound as if she is blurring her
39:09
words has spread online in recent days
39:12
interesting wonder what that's about
39:15
well the privately there what sucks
39:17
we've been about around this block
39:19
before the president of course during
39:22
the campaign we've said that people
39:23
closest to him told us that they feared
39:26
that he was a mental decline people very
39:30
close to him
39:32
I told us that they feared that he was
39:34
in pre dementia that he had changed you
39:37
you watch Donald Trump in the late-1980s
39:40
watch him even though the 90s you watch
39:42
him now he is completely changed I know
39:46
Nancy Pelosi and been working with her
39:48
since 1998 her this week a quarter of a
39:55
century of no Nancy Pelosi I can tell
39:58
you Nancy Pelosi is tougher today
40:01
sharpest attack then she was 25 years
40:04
ago the difference between Nancy and
40:08
Donald not even close he knows he
40:11
slipped it so now they're actually we
40:13
can think it's it's incredible they're
40:15
doctoring videos all right you gotta
40:21
become come clean with me Dvorak here's
40:24
what I think happened
40:25
you probably had the same thought I did
40:27
like now so funny I'm gonna slow down
40:29
some people make him sound drunk and
40:31
then you left the filters on all your
40:33
clips what happened
40:36
I your doctor in clips it's really too
40:40
long and boring to discuss but it was it
40:42
is a filtering problem and it had to do
40:45
with some background processing that I
40:47
didn't know was gonna go on to the clips
40:49
and I got disabled all of it finally
40:52
after I figured out what it was because
40:53
I couldn't get to this
40:54
this there's one there's some screwball
40:56
page that is not even linkable on the
41:00
normal of Windows 10 main menu that is
41:04
puts a bunch of a special effects on top
41:06
of the audio tracks oh and I was playing
41:10
around with it and I think I left
41:11
something turned on problem is this this
41:14
this particular page of settings is not
41:20
easy to access and I couldn't find a way
41:22
to get back to it it was just impossible
41:24
and because it wasn't available under
41:27
the normal settings it wasn't a thing
41:31
it's your Audio Driver where you can set
41:33
some of that stuff it's what were you
41:36
thinking this is a sign of mental
41:39
decline so I kept looking and looking I
41:44
finally found it searching the whole
41:48
computer oh gosh I finally found it I
41:50
just put I just turned everything
41:52
involved little echoing so know it
41:57
sounds pretty crappy the point is the
42:01
point is is that these two and I do have
42:04
a ISO from them the sharpest attack ISO
42:17
it has such triple meaning for me now
42:20
I'm really loved it
42:21
now I do have the actual Pelosi right
42:26
off of the conference which is the
42:30
progressives event that she was at and
42:31
she's yakking away and she sounds like
42:33
an idiot I think I also have do I have
42:36
any the Pelosi when she was being
42:38
interviewed well this is this is the
42:39
exposing closely at the progressives
42:41
event is that what you're talking about
42:42
yeah yeah turn off some news happen
42:46
today you this morning were supposed to
42:52
meet with the President on
42:54
infrastructure but that meeting didn't
42:58
really happen as I understand it from
43:00
Twitter and the news and cable could you
43:04
tell us what
43:05
happened and what your thoughts are on
43:08
that meeting or lack thereof I'm happy
43:12
to convey my impression of what happened
43:16
this morning but not before I thank you
43:18
mayor for your incredible leadership and
43:21
cap for ideas that's a big word I got to
43:26
be honest with you John it's kind of
43:29
unlistenable oh why it sounds fine
43:32
coming over no it's this is also slowed
43:35
down no you don't hear that well it
43:39
seems that like it could be off about 5%
43:41
yeah it could be
43:44
oh yeah you don't have to play it well
43:46
I'm just wondering how many of your
43:48
clips have this today the probably view
43:52
of them okay well we can't play Nancy
43:55
Pelosi anymore because then it just it's
43:57
wrong something wrong about it like it
44:01
covering the story with slowed down
44:03
clips which were not intentionally
44:05
slowed down okay well she sounds
44:10
terrible she does I mean I don't care
44:13
what you play Pelosi in any of her press
44:15
conferences yeah you can clip it out and
44:17
make her sound worse but she just sounds
44:19
bad anyway
44:20
well she's stammers and she does she
44:23
does what Ron Paul used to do when Ron
44:26
Paul is excited he clip words we're
44:30
going to MP
44:31
then she's gonna go on with something
44:33
else she would never finish a word she'd
44:35
say MP instead of impeach Ron Ron Paul
44:39
would do that Ron Paul did it constantly
44:42
he would always clip words and so as he
44:44
spoke he would not finish a word because
44:48
he didn't think it was necessary and I
44:51
got plenty of examples of it but she's
44:53
doing it all the time I think a lot of
44:54
people that are I don't know how you
44:56
develop this habit it just seems like a
44:58
habit that you developed somehow of just
45:00
words well there's also something to be
45:04
said for her being thinner late
45:07
seventies it's like hey it's like
45:09
Natalie like holy crap man how old is
45:12
Nadler
45:13
Nadler 71 well Nadler is in deep trouble
45:17
as far as I'm concerned yeah this that
45:20
wasn't just some fainting that guy did
45:22
he look he looked like he had something
45:24
a little more serious take place we had
45:26
an EMS guide that EMR whatever they're
45:29
called EMS yet EMT BMT yeah yeah you
45:33
sent me a note he says you know this
45:34
does happen with dehydration with older
45:36
people he says it did she's seen it
45:38
before it may not be anything that
45:40
anyone thinks well he it didn't look
45:43
good he looks very confused but again
45:46
you know you're 71 and you're dehydrated
45:48
yeah only if you're Hillary's got a big
45:50
bucket of water in front of him except
45:53
if you're Hillary Clinton then you know
45:55
then doesn't quite count if you know
45:57
that if you fall down because of the
45:58
heat but Jerry Nadler it's okay
46:00
what I thought was interesting is what
46:02
de Blasio the way he approached the
46:05
situation but I certainly want to see us
46:07
have the ability to add more when we
46:10
need them and I think the the
46:11
congressman is right about that fact
46:14
there you want something yeah I got some
46:17
some history
46:21
I love this you look dehydrated brother
46:25
brother you seem a little dehydrated
46:28
okay hey bro yo how you feeling man okay
46:36
you okay brother
46:38
what is this brother business that's
46:43
what you say to someone you really don't
46:45
know really don't probably even want to
46:48
converse with I mean that those are two
46:50
total strangers if a guy said that hey
46:53
how you doing there brother when the
46:55
guys clearly not doing okay
46:57
like hey Jer how you doing ain't add
47:00
stir now none of that
47:01
Nats brother hey brother especially in
47:09
the close-up video that somebody made
47:11
right but this is this is really the
47:14
bottom line I saw nothing but friendly
47:17
mainstream media doing anything possible
47:21
to distract people away from the fact
47:23
that the leadership of Representatives
47:27
because they're not our leaders they
47:29
lead the representation by some
47:31
mechanism that they are older and yeah
47:36
hey everyone gets old and I'm gonna get
47:38
older and we're all gonna get crotchety
47:40
and messed up and make stupid mistakes
47:41
already look like a moron dancing so you
47:44
know I would hate to be in their
47:46
position but hey isn't it telling us
47:48
something and why why don't we see a
47:50
little news coverage of hey you know at
47:53
what point does your cognitive skills
47:55
maybe you should think about retiring if
47:57
you're if you're hitting 80 in Congress
48:00
maybe yeah you know that's I think
48:07
that's valid the conversation to have
48:10
isn't it no no apparently that's not
48:12
possible and where is Ruth Bader
48:13
Ginsburg by the way where is she
48:17
she's hanging in there no she's not she
48:20
hasn't been back to work yes she was
48:23
back to work you're telling me she's
48:24
still at work because she's been back to
48:26
work mmm so that was my understanding
48:29
that's what the media has led me to
48:31
believe hmm I have a feeling she hasn't
48:34
been back to work at all let me see when
48:37
is the last time I could be an iron lung
48:43
for all we know maybe but I don't know I
48:48
I'd have to fight I have to see some
48:51
evidence that she's actually back at
48:52
work because she could I mean not saying
48:56
this you know the same is just with not
48:59
trying to be mean but if she had passed
49:02
away that would be easy to keep quiet if
49:04
it was necessary like oh we can't have
49:07
orange van bad putting another Supreme
49:10
Court justice on no we can't have that
49:13
Hey look we faked the moon landing I'm
49:15
sure we can fake Ruth Bader Ginsburg
49:16
going to work but I haven't even seen
49:19
that you know sown with I'm just kind of
49:24
bustling into the Supreme Court know if
49:28
someone has any evidence I'd like to
49:29
know that she's still okay okay now I
49:32
got a clip for you okay oh this is
49:35
Pelosi again but this time she's under
49:37
this is the interview that Brzezinski is
49:39
talking about her being sharp as a tack
49:43
more pressure on news at a conservative
49:46
Republican says the threshold for
49:48
impeachment has been met
49:51
we we're not this isn't about politics
49:54
it's not about passion it's not that
49:56
prejudice it's not about politics it's
49:58
about patriotism it's about the
50:00
presentation of the facts and see why
50:06
we're going down a certain path of
50:08
American people elected him president
50:10
not by the popular vote by the college
50:16
the Electoral College so I respect the
50:20
office that he holds okay and I think I
50:23
respect the office of the president
50:24
holds more than he respects the office
50:27
that he holds and I do believe that we
50:29
must hold him accountable to a high
50:33
ethical standard which he has not met
50:36
two integrity level of integrity that he
50:40
has not met and actually a respect for
50:44
governance science and other we have we
50:52
have a moment but the fact is is that at
50:55
the same time when you try to find
50:57
common ground to work with him she knows
51:01
better that's the you know you sit there
51:03
home you watch her say things like I
51:05
pray for the president he's clearly not
51:07
well needs an intervention and you think
51:10
that she really mean that no she doesn't
51:12
mean it
51:12
if she really really you played the
51:14
definitive clear book about a month ago
51:17
her clip going off on Bush yeah yeah old
51:24
let me see Nancy Pelosi what was it was
51:28
19 was an old one wasn't it
51:32
yeah it was from the 92 or Nord or
51:38
before you know I was about George HW
51:40
Bush so it had to be around 1989 or
51:42
something like that and yet was 60
51:46
minutes I think yeah well well anyway
51:50
yes that was the definitive clip cuz
51:51
she's always been like that
51:54
but she knows better she knows that this
51:58
isn't that there is no grounds for
51:59
impeachment yeah otherwise she'd do it
52:01
the the 25th amendment is literally a
52:05
about being incapable of performing the
52:08
ink really incapacitated walk or talk or
52:12
whatever it is or can't communicate and
52:14
she so in one hand she said Oh clearly
52:16
something's wrong with him he's not of
52:18
sound mind that needs an intervention
52:19
but she will not allow impeachment
52:22
proceedings it has mentioned the 25th
52:24
amendment herself just recently right
52:28
but is bullshit a bullshitter
52:31
however with Nancy stonewalling that oh
52:35
no there's money to go around acts blue
52:38
is up in arms and they're taking out
52:40
advertisements on MSNBC when this
52:57
President took money from foreign
52:59
governments really Sophie's tax returns
53:02
nothing happens and when his
53:03
administration illegally refused to
53:05
testify nothing happened
53:07
now you tell us the wait for the next
53:09
election really really really this is
53:12
why we volunteered raise money wait
53:14
door-to-door and voted in the last
53:16
election our founding fathers expected
53:18
you Congress to hold a law-based
53:21
president accountable and you're doing
53:23
nothing nothing nothing he broke his
53:27
oath of office he's defying you it's
53:29
laughing at you and he's getting away
53:31
with it this is our democracy but
53:34
Congress is part of the system and the
53:35
system is broken we have to fix
53:39
need to impeach is responsible for the
53:41
content of this advertising need to
53:45
impeach everybody need he needs to
53:48
impeach Kostas now they've taken is so
53:52
far now it's been on on two three years
53:54
yeah your uh that means every president
53:57
now whoever gets in ok bomb could have
54:01
gone through this if he wasn't black
54:02
sure yes
54:03
he probably would have yeah I probably
54:06
would have but this is all stems from
54:08
Nixon and stems from you know then
54:10
Clinton getting impeach he actually got
54:13
impeached and they went through with it
54:15
didn't and as the Republicans say it
54:19
didn't really help us know it ended up
54:21
hurting us because it really irks the
54:23
people he because they never got
54:24
anywhere but you didn't get him kicked
54:25
out of office so what was the point just
54:27
a pop you know process of humiliation
54:30
yes and that's what they're doing and it
54:32
works it really makes people angry it
54:36
turns out that 26 percent of the US
54:37
public thinks impeachment proceedings
54:40
should begin this very low number and
54:41
that's be a hardcore lefties hmm and
54:45
it's gonna work everybody else if they
54:47
go ahead with this and that's what
54:48
Pelosi knows this and that's why she's
54:51
trying to keep these guys under ass but
54:53
there's a bunch of gung-ho jerk-offs
54:55
like Al Green yeah that are just gonna
54:58
keep doing pushing for it and then they
55:01
all these young people they don't know
55:02
that a o'seas and these other Omar and
55:06
the rest of them they I think is great
55:07
it sounds good do it so then clip well I
55:12
say two things happen on Thursday on the
55:14
show day of course that warrant
55:17
discussion one is the declassification
55:20
of any and all documentation relating to
55:25
any collusion the second one is the
55:28
Assange indictment under the Espionage
55:31
Act which one would you like to tackle
55:33
first well I would say that the first
55:37
one is probably more appropriate to
55:41
where we've been shed so for then we get
55:42
to Assange okay
55:45
so that was exactly it it was a full
55:47
declassification order I think it was an
55:50
executive order everyone has to
55:52
cooperate with Attorney General bar and
55:55
of course it doesn't mean that we're
55:57
gonna see everything no no anything
56:03
we're gonna see Brennan whining well III
56:07
do I like how you're seeing people blame
56:11
each other this is always kind of like a
56:15
precursor to something coming out that
56:18
someone did something wrong and the one
56:20
that it seems like a lot of people want
56:22
to point towards Comey the former
56:26
attorney general Loretta Lynch for sure
56:31
welcome back to Fox and Friends first
56:33
former attorney general Loretta Lynch
56:35
claims that she never told James Comey
56:38
to call the Hillary Clinton email probe
56:40
of matter instead of an investigation we
56:44
were getting to a place where the
56:45
attorney Jo and I were both gonna have
56:47
to testify and talk publicly about it
56:48
and I want to know was she gonna
56:50
authorize us to confirm we had an
56:52
investigation and she said yes but don't
56:54
call it that call it a matter and I said
56:57
why would I do that
56:58
and she said just call it a matter Lynch
57:03
now says the former FBI director
57:05
mischaracterize statements that is
57:08
according to a newly released transcript
57:10
of Lynch's testimony on Capitol Hill
57:12
last year but Lynch also said that she
57:15
was quote surprised that Comey used the
57:17
word matter in reference to the Clinton
57:20
email probe so more to come on that yeah
57:23
oh this is delicious
57:24
I never said Matt I didn't say that to
57:28
you James boo boo boo boo boo you did
57:33
I think that's juicy yeah that is a good
57:37
one but again if you get back to the
57:39
basics and go back to your buddy algid
57:42
did you know of or whatever his name is
57:45
yeah he's just blames the whole thing in
57:48
a Brennan he says he was the real law he
57:51
was the real conspirator right but we
57:54
can't believe we can't lose sight of
57:57
what this is really about all of this
57:59
was put into play because the I more
58:04
than likely Clinton but possibly with
58:08
other members of the Obama
58:10
administration from 2012 to 2016 were
58:17
spying on political opponents and
58:20
probably Democrats really to be honest
58:23
you know leading up to the to the
58:25
election they were using the NSA
58:28
database and that spying is what got
58:31
them in trouble and you know because
58:33
then they started to use that on Trump
58:35
there were you know the information
58:37
coming in from the State Department to
58:39
have people unmasked a very strange way
58:44
for that to take place and they
58:46
basically got caught that's what that's
58:47
the the clip that you played of Admiral
58:49
Rogers at home I got all this this stuff
58:51
going on people are just looking up
58:53
Americans for no reason no warrant and
58:56
that's when he put that he stopped that
58:58
capability but by then they were found
59:00
out if Clinton wasn't going to be
59:03
President this would come to light oh he
59:06
did Trump became president we got to
59:08
cover this up so that's where Brennan
59:10
who was probably a big part of that
59:11
initial spying was brought in or brought
59:15
in the steel dossier and made it all
59:17
happen it's it's not really not about
59:19
any of that
59:20
it's about spying on political opponents
59:23
Americans do when you have the mechanism
59:26
yes would be a surprise to anybody what
59:29
the FBI's been doing for his most of his
59:31
career since it's been created the crazy
59:33
thing is it was it was Brennan and it
59:37
was Muller who were there when this was
59:40
put into place after 9/11 and they they
59:44
swore oh yeah we'll make sure this is
59:46
we used for any any other reason than
59:49
has specifically stated in the in the
59:52
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court
59:54
a charter it'll never be used to spy on
59:57
Americans the very same guys who did it
59:59
and cover it up of course this is where
1:00:03
you do it but but no one is really is
1:00:05
really except for Joe to Genoa buddy
1:00:09
he's the only guy and he's a kook which
1:00:12
makes it that much harder for people to
1:00:13
understand so frustrating how will we
1:00:17
ever win well then there's trey gowdy
1:00:23
who he claims that there is exculpatory
1:00:26
evidence that was recorded and
1:00:29
exculpatory means clearly shows the
1:00:33
person is not guilty of whatever they're
1:00:35
being accused of and when you go and get
1:00:37
a warrant to spy on someone or if you're
1:00:38
accusing someone or if you're indicted
1:00:40
someone and you withhold the evidence
1:00:42
that could show that he or she is
1:00:46
innocent
1:00:47
please tell me that's some kind of
1:00:49
law-breaking John tell me there's
1:00:51
something with that it depends on the
1:00:53
rules but yes okay well here's trey
1:00:56
gowdy talking with the money honey about
1:00:58
it oh I touched the money honey the
1:01:01
wrong way and she went away yes i agents
1:01:05
conversations with george papadapolis is
1:01:07
because when an FBI agent sends in
1:01:10
informants to someone they're looking at
1:01:12
typically those conversations are
1:01:14
recorded right those people are wired
1:01:16
yeah I mean if the bureau's gonna send
1:01:18
an informant and the informants gonna be
1:01:20
wired and if the bureau is monitoring
1:01:21
telephone calls there's gonna be a
1:01:23
transcript of that and some of us have
1:01:27
been fortunate enough to know whether or
1:01:28
not those transcripts exist but they
1:01:31
haven't been made public and I think one
1:01:33
in particular is going it has the
1:01:35
potential to actually persuade people
1:01:37
very little on this Russia probe I'm
1:01:39
afraid is going to persuade people who
1:01:41
hate Trump or who love Trump
1:01:43
but there is some information in these
1:01:44
transcripts that I think has the
1:01:46
potential to be a game-changer if it's
1:01:48
ever made public you say that's by the
1:01:51
way this was prior to the
1:01:53
declassification order but Rory
1:01:56
gents and when people see that they're
1:01:57
gonna say wait why wasn't this presented
1:02:00
to the court earlier yeah you know
1:02:02
Johnny Ratcliffe is rightfully exercised
1:02:05
over the obligations that the government
1:02:07
has to tell the whole truth to a court
1:02:09
when you are seeking permission to spy
1:02:11
or do surveillance on an American and
1:02:13
part of that includes the responsibility
1:02:16
of providing exculpatory information or
1:02:18
information that tends to show the
1:02:20
person did not do something wrong if you
1:02:23
have exculpatory information and you
1:02:25
don't share with the court that ain't
1:02:27
good I've seen it
1:02:29
Johnny's seen it it ain't good okay I
1:02:32
don't know if it's breaking any laws but
1:02:33
apparently that ain't good John so no if
1:02:36
that gets us anywhere gets his daddy
1:02:39
ain't good yeah oh well yeah that whole
1:02:45
thing is yeah we'll see I mean they do
1:02:47
bar does have this edge got everybody
1:02:49
bent out of shape mostly Brennan he's on
1:02:50
why don't think I have any clips I see
1:02:52
being on any any has he been a party
1:02:54
just recently was on bitching about this
1:02:56
bar just he was bitching about this
1:03:00
thing about bar being able to just
1:03:04
unlock stuff and he's going on and on
1:03:08
Brennan goes on on he speaks for the
1:03:10
entire intelligence community I wish I
1:03:12
had the clip he speaks for the entire
1:03:14
intelligence community when he
1:03:15
stammering Lee says all the and
1:03:18
everybody in the intelligence community
1:03:20
is upset about this because it's not the
1:03:22
way it should be done and he was just
1:03:25
careless reckless reckless of the
1:03:28
President to do such something something
1:03:30
like yes and he's really like what is
1:03:33
his problem everybody I mean if you look
1:03:36
at the Genoa and or listen to Ray
1:03:38
McGovern who nobody will talk to anymore
1:03:41
right he's been banned from everything
1:03:43
McGovern says they're running like you
1:03:45
know scared guilty people well let's
1:03:48
remember these famous words of John
1:03:50
Brennan people are innocent until well
1:03:52
alleged to be involved in some type of
1:03:54
criminal activity there you go so I
1:03:56
don't know I don't think he's guilty
1:04:02
until its legs so I think he's in some
1:04:05
trouble there
1:04:06
yeah well by his own standards he is
1:04:08
yeah unbelievable
1:04:10
well Kisan yes a Psalms now this is
1:04:16
interesting actually I have a quote for
1:04:18
this I think yes under the heading press
1:04:21
freedoms because that's what this is
1:04:23
that's what this will be talked about as
1:04:25
usual there's no such thing as press
1:04:28
freedoms I just want to remind everybody
1:04:29
there's a freedom of the press which is
1:04:31
per our constitution in the United
1:04:34
States it varies by country the United
1:04:37
Kingdom has no freedom of the press you
1:04:39
get a D notice a shut up slave used to
1:04:41
stop it
1:04:43
here is let me see I don't this is from
1:04:46
this is about the yes D stand for doofus
1:04:50
I don't know D I don't know someone will
1:04:55
be able to tell us the Justice
1:04:58
Department announcing more charges
1:05:00
against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange
1:05:02
let's get right to CNN's Laura jerod at
1:05:04
the Justice Department Laura what are
1:05:05
the details of this indictment well Jake
1:05:07
this is a pretty aggressive new move by
1:05:10
the Justice Department essentially
1:05:11
tacking on 17 new charges against
1:05:14
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange we had
1:05:16
seen a single charge of computer
1:05:18
intrusion late last month but now a 17
1:05:21
new charges much more significant and
1:05:23
really a really a big deal here for a
1:05:26
First Amendment advocates and a concern
1:05:28
here because he's being charged with
1:05:30
unlawfully obtaining soliciting
1:05:33
encouraging that former intelligence
1:05:36
analyst Chelsea Manning with obtaining
1:05:38
of just a bevy of national defense
1:05:40
materials and he's being charged with
1:05:42
publishing those materials and so the
1:05:44
Justice Department asked today well
1:05:46
what's the difference between Julian
1:05:49
Assange and journalists like you and I
1:05:50
and they said let's be clear Julian
1:05:53
Assange is no journalists what another
1:05:55
justice official said he's not being
1:05:57
charged simply because he's a publisher
1:05:59
and what publisher and what they're
1:06:01
pointing to is not only the fact that
1:06:03
Assange allegedly helped manning crack
1:06:06
into a Department of Defense password
1:06:09
but also the fact that he published
1:06:11
confidential human sources the names of
1:06:13
human sources which put them in danger
1:06:15
and he knew that publishing would put
1:06:17
them in danger
1:06:18
solicited those materials on wicked
1:06:20
links and that's what they're pointing
1:06:21
to which makes this case different Jake
1:06:23
and Lauren what does this mean for Asajj
1:06:25
and has WikiLeaks responded they have
1:06:28
they have said this is madness it's the
1:06:30
end of national security journalism and
1:06:33
the First Amendment so obviously a
1:06:35
pretty aggressive response from
1:06:38
WikiLeaks there but you know this is
1:06:40
something that the prior administration
1:06:41
really struggled with under the same set
1:06:43
of facts under the Nina prior Justice
1:06:46
Department Eric Holder declined to
1:06:48
prosecute Julian Assange under the
1:06:49
Espionage for just this idea because the
1:06:52
idea is well what would separate this
1:06:54
from the New York Times publishing
1:06:55
classified information and I should also
1:06:58
point out you might wonder why we're
1:07:00
seeing this today the Justice Berman
1:07:02
actually had 60 days from when he was
1:07:04
arrested last month and so there was a
1:07:07
sort of window from when they could tack
1:07:09
on these new charges no telling whether
1:07:11
they're going to attack on any
1:07:12
additional charges though at this point
1:07:14
I think these 60 days is for extradition
1:07:17
maybe that the idea about any of this
1:07:21
this guy's not even an American how can
1:07:24
they charge it with anything well there
1:07:29
is a Wikipedia the page for the
1:07:31
Espionage Act of 1917 United States
1:07:34
federal law and the people have been
1:07:38
found guilty under this Espionage Act
1:07:40
even though we've gone through two world
1:07:41
wars and Vietnam War and we've had all
1:07:44
these other act police actions around
1:07:46
the world and and potential for
1:07:47
espionage and people were blowing up
1:07:49
trains in World War two and all the rest
1:07:51
well how many people have been charged
1:07:53
and found guilty and I don't think I
1:07:58
know how many been actually found guilty
1:08:01
zero I think interestingly enough Daniel
1:08:04
Ellsberg yeah who was the whistleblower
1:08:07
of the Pentagon Papers he was he was
1:08:09
hauled before the court on did the whole
1:08:13
act he grabbed the papers and he
1:08:16
released the papers right Julian Assange
1:08:18
was acting as a journalist in this
1:08:20
regard because he didn't go Gerst steal
1:08:22
the papers
1:08:23
and by the way let's get back to my
1:08:25
point well I'm just not an American yes
1:08:28
he's a citizen of Australia preppies
1:08:31
bees living in England what jurist what
1:08:33
is the jurisdiction president I'm asking
1:08:36
about jurisdiction here what
1:08:37
jurisdiction do we have to charge this
1:08:40
guy under any act espionage or other
1:08:45
what worse our jurisdiction here it's a
1:08:49
lot an American he can't he's not
1:08:52
committing Espeon okay can I ask you a
1:08:54
question can I mean I understand you've
1:08:56
made this point you keep making it over
1:08:58
and over again Gaddafi was not an
1:09:01
American we went over there and shot him
1:09:03
up the ass what is your point I mean
1:09:06
this is fucking stupid argument yes he's
1:09:07
not an American and neither is it is
1:09:10
well it's to make it over and over again
1:09:12
I don't think I don't think it matters
1:09:15
it's never being addressed well but what
1:09:19
is there to say I don't think it matters
1:09:20
I think the United States if they want
1:09:23
to charge anybody under anything
1:09:25
the jaywalking act they'll do it they
1:09:30
have no jurisdiction over this guy not
1:09:34
until he's here if they get him here
1:09:36
then all was done you I think you gotta
1:09:37
get him here what's the jurisdiction
1:09:40
it's not a system sorry it's the world
1:09:42
police gonna swoop in and say hold on a
1:09:44
second you can't prosecute that young
1:09:47
mom well the problem with the world
1:09:49
police is that we're the world please
1:09:55
but I think there's something else going
1:09:57
on here I think this is I don't this is
1:10:01
for one of two reasons either somehow
1:10:04
and this has Trump's greasy fingerprints
1:10:08
on it either a we're gonna use this guy
1:10:11
to show what what you can't do somehow
1:10:15
we'll we'll finagle this into the law to
1:10:17
show that if you are publishing things
1:10:20
that are just given to you from inside
1:10:25
the American government or intelligence
1:10:27
sources they want to stop that for
1:10:30
obvious reasons you know and there's a
1:10:32
lot of leaking particularly when it
1:10:33
comes to stuff about Trump and he and
1:10:35
there's a it's been very damn
1:10:37
to him and so he may want to use this as
1:10:40
a case to stop it or it's meant to let
1:10:43
Julie Assange go free because I don't
1:10:46
see any Court who could convicted - I
1:10:49
have felt the exact same way I think
1:10:52
this may just big big overcharged him
1:10:54
with stuff that's bullcrap - the
1:10:56
Espionage law being the most obvious
1:10:58
where's the Logan Act maybe the
1:11:01
espionage laws are bullcrap and there's
1:11:05
no and he's gonna go free and that's the
1:11:06
idea I think that's a pasta distinct
1:11:08
possibility because we know that Trump
1:11:10
was happy about
1:11:11
Asajj but he has to put up a false front
1:11:14
here to make it look as though he's
1:11:18
getting tough not just he just like
1:11:20
likes the fact that Jesus sons got him
1:11:22
elected as president yes of course he
1:11:24
does and this may be just a get out of
1:11:27
jail free card to answer your earlier
1:11:28
question in 2001 retired Army Reserve
1:11:31
Colonel George Toth him off was indicted
1:11:35
under the Act and convicted of
1:11:37
conducting espionage Kenneth Wayne Ford
1:11:40
jr. indicted for allegedly having a box
1:11:43
of documents in his house after he left
1:11:45
NSA he was sentenced to six years in
1:11:47
prison it's not like this hasn't worked
1:11:50
in 2005 pentagon iran expert loris
1:11:54
franklin we're and lobbyists rosen
1:11:57
Weissman were ad itíd under the Act see
1:12:02
Frank Lee was sentenced to 12 years
1:12:04
later reduced to 10 months of home
1:12:06
confinement so it seems like yeah maybe
1:12:10
not 12 years to 10 months damn 12 years
1:12:14
to ten months of home confinement
1:12:16
that's it that's it that's a pretty good
1:12:18
lobby right there man good job on that
1:12:23
Alexander a Jeffrey sterling former CIA
1:12:26
agent indicted on the act in January
1:12:28
2011 unauthorized disclosure of National
1:12:31
Defense Information to James risin you
1:12:34
remember that yeah welcome Hillary
1:12:36
hasn't been indicted under this then
1:12:38
this is not for elites this is not for
1:12:40
lizards this is for humans not for the
1:12:46
shapeshifters John they get to do
1:12:47
whatever they want
1:12:50
but yes I I think I think we've both
1:12:52
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fallen men and women fallen and you know
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this guy tom coleman Oh a new guy who's
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I don't know if we should play it
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probably not how about this very
1:32:59
interesting
1:33:00
now I've helped several people immigrate
1:33:04
into the United States yes you have yes
1:33:07
and through official means official ways
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and I haven't married all of them just
1:33:12
so you know and I'm always happy to help
1:33:15
but there is a very specific when you
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petition that's what that's the official
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term when you petition for someone to
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legally immigrated into the United
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States there comes responsibility with
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that actually quite a big responsibility
1:33:30
which is you stand as as you as what is
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the term I'm looking for you guarantee
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that if anything goes wrong with this
1:33:42
person in their trial period yes you get
1:33:46
deported you don't get deported but no
1:33:53
you won't get deported but you are
1:33:54
responsible for any costs or anything
1:33:57
any burden on society it's it's spelled
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out quite clearly and this has been part
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of law for in fact the think it was 1990
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in the 1996 the illegal immigration
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reform and immigrant immigrant
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Responsibility Act made it a took it one
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step further and the welfare reform
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reform laws enacted by Clinton who was
1:34:22
then president the law stated that
1:34:23
immigrants should not depend on public
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resources to meet their needs but this
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has never been enforced although I've
1:34:30
always felt that you know I got this man
1:34:32
I'm responsible something happens I
1:34:34
no they can come to me never happened
1:34:36
there was never a reason for it but it
1:34:38
turns out this thing has never been
1:34:39
enforced never and this includes social
1:34:43
services more interesting Martha
1:34:46
McCallum on Fox News has no idea about
1:34:49
this so with regard to immigration there
1:34:52
was an announcement today that basically
1:34:54
people who had sponsored immigrants to
1:34:57
come into the country are going to be
1:34:58
responsible for repaying any of the
1:35:01
benefits that they take advantage of
1:35:03
how's that gonna work
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well absolutely it's actually already
1:35:06
codified into law was passed in 1996
1:35:08
signed by Bill Clinton it just hasn't
1:35:11
been enforced shockingly the swamp takes
1:35:13
over again but this president says no
1:35:15
more it's time for those sponsors who
1:35:18
said that they would pay for dollar for
1:35:20
dollar matches to any federal program
1:35:22
that paid for immigrants it's time for
1:35:24
them to have some skin in the game here
1:35:26
it's a kickstart actually to the
1:35:28
merit-based system we've talked about
1:35:29
before we want immigrants in this
1:35:31
country we're not even changing the 1.1
1:35:33
million immigrants that come here every
1:35:35
year we're not changing that number but
1:35:37
we're changing the construct of those
1:35:39
who come we want people to contribute
1:35:40
not to be a drain on the American
1:35:43
economy or our social safety net
1:35:45
programs that the American people
1:35:46
deserve right now immigrants are taking
1:35:48
advantage of it and the sponsors by law
1:35:51
are supposed to pay for that and it's
1:35:53
time for them to put in their fair share
1:35:55
I am so yes you want to say something
1:36:01
there are so many laws that apparently
1:36:03
are just not enforced who knew totally
1:36:06
who know about this I didn't know that
1:36:08
that wasn't enforce it seems like an on
1:36:11
brainer just a no-brainer hey this
1:36:16
person isn't no good you got to pay up
1:36:18
you're responsible you come knocking on
1:36:20
your door I'm surprised by this
1:36:22
yeah Martha McCallum didn't even know it
1:36:24
existed oh-ho you're gonna be at work I
1:36:28
don't think you can hold her you didn't
1:36:31
know it exists
1:36:32
she's a white woman I can do whatever I
1:36:33
want to say about her skin in the game
1:36:36
skin in the game exactly where does this
1:36:40
come from the term skinny version of the
1:36:43
phrase is unknown really yeah this has
1:36:47
become
1:36:48
only been attributed to Warren Buffett
1:36:51
referring to his own investment in his
1:36:54
initial fund hmm however William Safire
1:36:57
refutes Buffett as the source of the
1:37:00
phrase pointing to earlier instances to
1:37:07
say it may come from merchants of Venice
1:37:08
the Shakespeare's play in which the
1:37:11
antagonist Shylock stipulates that the
1:37:14
protagonist Antonio must promise that
1:37:17
pound of his own flesh as kaha
1:37:19
that's who the pound of flesh there you
1:37:21
go that's the skin in the game that
1:37:23
would make sense
1:37:23
maybe have a I received a clip it's
1:37:29
actually a video clip I can play some
1:37:31
audio from it from the No Agenda
1:37:32
technology lab now we did some testing
1:37:36
on one of our recent products that we
1:37:37
were discussing on the show and this is
1:37:41
your power lying transmission what are
1:37:44
they called exactly power line Ethernet
1:37:47
home home plug home plug what it's
1:37:53
called home plug that's what it's called
1:37:55
that's the that's the standard yeah one
1:37:56
of there's two standards a home plug is
1:37:58
the one that's the most popular and I
1:38:00
and I say well these things are a
1:38:03
problem as far as I know because they
1:38:05
interfere with ham radio operators and
1:38:08
who knows what else as one of our
1:38:12
producers took it into the lab and let
1:38:16
me see I don't know if you want his well
1:38:18
his youtube name is fidget McFerrin so
1:38:22
I'll just leave it at that and here is
1:38:25
alright so as per John's recommendation
1:38:27
on getting a powerline adapter for
1:38:28
getting Internet into other places of
1:38:31
your home I decided to get one for my
1:38:33
garage because that's where my SBR
1:38:35
hangout is SDR is software-defined radio
1:38:39
so he's listening to the ham bands so I
1:38:42
got a funny joke on the receiving end
1:38:44
and on the
1:38:45
output and into the computer and let me
1:38:48
pull up fast comm right here and watches
1:38:51
the web browser pops up there we go kind
1:38:54
of fast comms to be test going and look
1:38:56
at all the QRM that this thing is
1:38:57
putting out and then watches that close
1:39:00
this web browser a couple seconds kills
1:39:06
and there's a little right so what you
1:39:09
obviously aren't seeing but we can kind
1:39:11
of hear is the minute he starts to use a
1:39:14
lot of data those he's using a speed
1:39:18
test website
1:39:19
it just completely fills up the entire
1:39:21
bandwidth noise you'll hear it
1:39:25
I believe that it's also caused by this
1:39:29
powerline adapter so it looks like I'm
1:39:31
gonna have to find a different way to
1:39:32
get internet into the garage Adam was
1:39:34
right this thing these things cause a
1:39:36
lot of cure because this was a really
1:39:39
easy thing to do plug in plug in pair it
1:39:43
and go they don't have to trench out my
1:39:45
backyard
1:39:45
oh well seven agrees there you go to a
1:39:49
German straight from the no agenda
1:39:50
technology labs these things are great
1:39:54
unless you are also a ham radio operator
1:39:56
then they're not so great I wonder what
1:40:01
else they his rig is plugged into the
1:40:05
power line that he's using for doing the
1:40:08
data transfer Joe so now we have
1:40:10
stipulations okay so stipulations now I
1:40:12
want to know if you have just like an
1:40:14
icon one of these one of these battery
1:40:17
powered right not not plugged in devices
1:40:21
mmm-hmm not plugged into the same system
1:40:23
that you have this battery powered hand
1:40:28
it's handy I can see it being a problem
1:40:31
if your uh yeah that software-defined
1:40:33
radios really picky is about noise
1:40:35
issues and so you got a lot of noise
1:40:37
okay that's what was supposed to say but
1:40:40
the other but they're the main problem
1:40:42
was that the guy across the street that
1:40:45
was in the olden days was bitching so I
1:40:48
don't think that he did this is not a
1:40:50
test that's the one I want to see I want
1:40:52
to see the test of the guy across the
1:40:54
street
1:40:54
so in other words I want to the
1:40:56
powerline adapter plugged in in a
1:40:59
fren house mm-hmm and does it affect him
1:41:02
in his house cuz that was the bitch
1:41:05
about the the ham guys early on is that
1:41:08
you plug it in anywhere in the
1:41:09
neighborhood no all the ham guys are
1:41:10
screwed right so it may not carry okay
1:41:13
well we're sending it back to the lab
1:41:15
John and they will figure it out for us
1:41:17
secondary testing several articles
1:41:21
showing up in the Washington Post and
1:41:23
New York Times in fact they'll give you
1:41:25
some headlines here America cities are
1:41:29
unlivable blame wealthy liberals New
1:41:32
York Times house San Francisco broke
1:41:34
America's heart - Washington Post
1:41:36
there's a trash and rodent nightmare in
1:41:39
downtown LA with plenty of blame to go
1:41:42
around Los Angeles Times monic plague
1:41:44
rats feasting on huge trash piles sparks
1:41:48
fears of bubonic plague outbreak in LA
1:41:51
yeah what was interesting up the mess
1:41:54
what was asking too much what's
1:41:56
interesting about the los angeles time
1:41:59
piece is that apparently the businesses
1:42:07
downtown in los angeles are paying some
1:42:11
of the well i don't know if they're all
1:42:14
well they by definition they don't have
1:42:16
a home but i think there's other issues
1:42:18
are paying them to take away their
1:42:20
garbage and then just dumping it in the
1:42:23
piles where the homeless people are
1:42:24
already dumping their trash I think in
1:42:27
San Francisco they changed the recycling
1:42:31
companies it's now by different regions
1:42:34
of the city and it went from an average
1:42:37
$70 a month to $300 a month same things
1:42:41
happening businesses are paying some of
1:42:44
these people to cart off their trash and
1:42:45
throw it on some trash heap there are
1:42:47
people stopping with pickup trucks to
1:42:50
empty their trash onto the trash heaps
1:42:52
that the homeless people have made in
1:42:53
the streets
1:42:54
nice opportunist amongst the Bay Area
1:42:59
dwellers that that shows a real moral
1:43:04
decay well it shows that opportunism is
1:43:08
it moral decay that saves some money
1:43:10
no it
1:43:11
yes it's moral decay if you're throwing
1:43:14
the trash on your own Street yes that's
1:43:17
moral decay of course it is you don't
1:43:20
think so
1:43:21
that's just opportunist I wouldn't do it
1:43:23
I don't like the idea of these big trash
1:43:25
heaps
1:43:25
wellnot crawling with rats and mice and
1:43:29
god knows what s bauer knows that is bad
1:43:32
news yes in fact there's a very
1:43:38
interesting lawsuit
1:43:42
let me see it's wheaton at all versus
1:43:45
Apple Inc and what is interesting about
1:43:49
this lawsuit is it claims that apple
1:43:53
sold iTunes information to third parties
1:43:59
for marketing purposes and the
1:44:02
information that they sold to these
1:44:04
third parties was entire playlists of
1:44:07
what you are listening to and when you
1:44:11
think and we haven't even discussed this
1:44:14
as an off-the-grid OTG issue but knowing
1:44:17
what kind of songs you listen to is up
1:44:20
there and importance with personal
1:44:23
preferences I mean if you give me your
1:44:26
your playlist your favorite playlist I
1:44:29
think I can get a lot of insight to who
1:44:32
you are and what you're about of course
1:44:35
when it comes to online types of systems
1:44:40
like Spotify or Pandora or iTunes
1:44:44
there's some concern when it comes to
1:44:47
things like video in fact there was a
1:44:51
law on the books that specifically
1:44:54
forbade any video store or library or
1:44:59
any other library type functioning
1:45:02
service whether online or offline to
1:45:06
divulge what people are reading watching
1:45:09
or listening to and I think that's
1:45:10
probably a pretty good pretty good law
1:45:14
to have I didn't even know it existed
1:45:16
it's called the video Privacy Protection
1:45:18
Act it was passed in Congress in 1988
1:45:22
signed into law by Ray
1:45:24
and I'll just give you the actual text
1:45:27
or the important part of it
1:45:30
it was prevented created to prevent were
1:45:32
refers to his wrongful disclosure of
1:45:34
videotape rent or or sale records or
1:45:37
similar audio-visual materials to cover
1:45:39
items such as video games and future DVD
1:45:42
formats and they updated this overtime
1:45:45
to include online as well I did not know
1:45:50
that this law has existed and it really
1:45:53
makes me well it initially made me
1:45:55
question like oh crap how can how can
1:45:57
this be taking place yeah Apple and he's
1:46:00
an apple supposed to be the the guys who
1:46:02
say whatever's on your iPhone stays on
1:46:05
your iPhone privacy well they're liars
1:46:07
they're liars but here here's that
1:46:10
here's the kicker this act was updated
1:46:14
in 2012-2013 with House Resolution 667 1
1:46:23
which amended the video Privacy
1:46:26
Protection Act to allow video rental
1:46:29
companies to share rental information on
1:46:31
social networking sites after obtaining
1:46:33
customer permission Netflix lobbied for
1:46:37
the change Obama signed it into law in
1:46:41
January 2013 you didn't hear much about
1:46:44
it but isn't it interesting that the
1:46:46
minute Obama is out of office he gets a
1:46:49
hundred million dollar Netflix deal
1:46:51
isn't that interesting how that works
1:46:53
boys wondered why he got that deal
1:46:56
always wondered now I know it's it's
1:46:59
just uh you scratch my back I'll scratch
1:47:03
yours and it's quite disgusting these
1:47:05
after the fact deals quite disgusting
1:47:08
and it's black and white right there tea
1:47:11
will you find out what what the reason
1:47:13
for that bright reverse bribe or
1:47:15
whatever want to call after the fact
1:47:16
bribe yep take care of you when you're
1:47:19
out yeah no I'd do anything to know yeah
1:47:23
that's why I think a lot of these book
1:47:24
deals these massive book deals that
1:47:27
these next presidents get they get like
1:47:30
a you know two million dollar advance or
1:47:32
tan I mean while we're still we're still
1:47:34
waiting to see what genius Barack and
1:47:37
Michelle are gonna come up with on
1:47:38
Netflix have you seen anything they've
1:47:40
produced they're gonna produce it no it
1:47:42
was pure thank you very much great job
1:47:44
you really helped us move forward you
1:47:47
circumvented a very specific law which
1:47:49
made things difficult for us Thank You
1:47:51
President Obama
1:47:52
here's your hundred million dollar deal
1:47:53
I don't want they have to do anything
1:47:55
we'll just put you on retainer good to
1:47:57
go sounds like that's what it was you're
1:48:01
right
1:48:02
good catch I know you've just been in
1:48:05
your craw well this is yeah I'm gonna
1:48:07
I'm gonna keep it going here with one
1:48:09
more note from producer Glenn we were
1:48:11
talking about your receipts being sucked
1:48:14
in from your Gmail yeah and that's how
1:48:18
Google has this if you go to my account
1:48:21
google.com slash purchases then you'll
1:48:25
see purchases that you didn't even make
1:48:27
through Google but if you have a gmail
1:48:29
and I am so there's certain things that
1:48:32
for some reason a confirmation email
1:48:34
went to a gmail account I have and
1:48:37
that's what shows up well Glenn says in
1:48:40
2015 he got married and before he got
1:48:42
married he spent hours and hours looking
1:48:44
for a tux under suit he went to Men's
1:48:47
Warehouse and signed up for email
1:48:49
northey's and maybe his wife signed him
1:48:51
up but he never bought anything from
1:48:53
them and of course Men's Wearhouse
1:48:55
emailed them twice a day for every day
1:48:57
forever since 2015 so he put it into
1:49:01
spam and Gmail and so for the last four
1:49:04
years he never seen it it's always in
1:49:06
span he
1:49:07
check occasionally but you know it was
1:49:09
just going to spam two months ago his
1:49:12
grandmother died then we're sorry to
1:49:14
hear that
1:49:15
she was the first family member to pass
1:49:16
away since he was 15 so this would be
1:49:19
his first wake or funeral as an
1:49:21
independent adult and he googled stuff
1:49:23
like what to wear to awake do I need a
1:49:26
suit for awake a day ago after four
1:49:30
years of being spam Men's Wearhouse now
1:49:34
appears in his regular email full folder
1:49:36
it's no more marked is no longer marked
1:49:38
as spam what's that all about some
1:49:45
that's that's what that's the kind of
1:49:47
stuff they're doing you know these guys
1:49:53
probably have the news I got I got six
1:49:56
or seven watch dogs out to the time
1:49:58
where this thing's showing up and
1:49:59
primary these are promotions my
1:50:03
newsletter mostly goes in their primary
1:50:05
with a few guys and every so often I get
1:50:07
a note this I went to spam for the first
1:50:10
time ever these newsletters aren't that
1:50:12
different from what from each other I
1:50:14
mean I you know unless I screw something
1:50:16
up and I know what it is but generally
1:50:18
speaking if you haven't seen these the
1:50:20
Dvorak curry no agenda newsletter it is
1:50:24
a template yes pretty much the same
1:50:29
newsletter with different information
1:50:31
and different information that's
1:50:34
triggering it is it the one too many
1:50:36
photos that's triggering it you really
1:50:38
can't tell it's almost it's the lack of
1:50:40
an agreement between us and Google to
1:50:43
pay whatever we need to pay to have it
1:50:45
delivered that's the future of it and if
1:50:47
people are gonna use Gmail that's the
1:50:49
future yeah then that's what you're
1:50:50
gonna get that's that's what you're
1:50:52
gonna get and also we started this whole
1:50:54
the internet email thing was unreliable
1:50:57
I always said when I was younger younger
1:51:00
and the 80s when we were using MCI mail
1:51:04
and then the internet mail started
1:51:06
coming up in big ways it wasn't still up
1:51:09
to up to speed but you could get
1:51:12
internet and that you could get an email
1:51:14
account for someone I forget what the
1:51:15
name of the company was it was providing
1:51:17
this but I always I wrote a column in
1:51:20
the deck
1:51:20
professional mmm there's a magazine time
1:51:23
I said you know this mail is unreliable
1:51:27
and I cited all the reasons why it's
1:51:29
unreliable because I thought it was and
1:51:31
I still do and holy crap did I get a
1:51:34
bunch of hate mail it's the greatest
1:51:37
thing ever it's not unreliable under any
1:51:39
circumstances send mail is the best
1:51:41
protocol Dada you know it's unreliable
1:51:46
well I'm going to disagree with you the
1:51:49
I agree that send mail was a very
1:51:53
reliable protocol
1:51:54
I think email is one of the best
1:51:57
decentralized systems that exists and
1:52:01
has a lot of fallback and protections
1:52:03
and delivery is pretty much guaranteed
1:52:05
the problem is providers of email and
1:52:10
and the disincentivize ation of having
1:52:13
anyone even understand how it works
1:52:15
having a little box that is just your
1:52:17
family email server at home yeah they
1:52:19
exist the helm com is a good one to look
1:52:22
at ISPs have worked very hard to block
1:52:27
you having that capability at home they
1:52:31
make sure that all port 25 you can't
1:52:34
send your you can't send out email you
1:52:35
might be a spammer so they've worked
1:52:39
hard against doing that and people got
1:52:41
complacent it's like oh I got Yahoo Mail
1:52:43
all I got today well man I got Gmail I
1:52:45
got and now you see you'll know you
1:52:47
don't they have your mail and there's a
1:52:50
couple of good ones what's the one that
1:52:52
everyone likes to use the secure email
1:52:55
service and also that can get can go
1:52:58
tits-up any day - what is it everybody
1:53:02
use doing is described making my point
1:53:04
no I'm not if the emails the email as a
1:53:07
protocol and send mail is fantastic
1:53:09
protonmail that's what it was I'm not
1:53:12
thinking fast meal which people like
1:53:13
yeah I'm not making your point New York
1:53:17
no cuz you specifically said send mail
1:53:19
and it's bullcrap and it's no good that
1:53:21
shit woods bullcrap but I just
1:53:24
criticized the whole mechanism yes the
1:53:26
mechanism mechanism where it goes over
1:53:28
the internet and it disappears gets
1:53:31
picked up by something the other the
1:53:33
worst part Yahoo cow
1:53:34
I'll back off on send mails fine and
1:53:37
there's some newer protocols are even
1:53:39
better but that's beside the point the
1:53:41
mechanism as a whole is completely
1:53:44
flawed there and even if you have your
1:53:45
own little Home Server there's still
1:53:47
these black lists you subscribe to a