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Adam Curry
Jhansi Devore award-winning
nation media
assassination episode 11:45
this is no
agenda from North Silicon
Valley where
this podcast is number three
I'm Jesse Devore yes beating
out that
other conservative podcast Joe
Rogan
John is referring to the what's
the name
of that website it is Liberty
Nation
Liberty is now that looks kind
of pro
Liberty nation it seems it's
legit it
seems like a legit or huh so
this was
the we made the top ten list
which was
apparently a poll it was voted
on by the
readers of Liberty Nation top
ten
conservative podcast to
download in 2019
mm-hmm number three do you have
to
listen front I do as a matter
so give us
the list too we had number ten
is the
Dan Carlin hardcore history
history
party again like the rest of
them like
most of me says quote unquote
not
technically a conservative
podcast what
does it it doesn't say that yes
oh
really it says it on his
podcast yes on
his entry is not technically a
conservative podcast yeah but
he got in
number ten somebody wrote on
Twitter is
this really the depart cast that
conservatives like to listen to
that
necessarily conservatives and
didn't
most of them aren't yeah that
makes
sense or a lot of them art yeah
number
nine he's part of the problem I
haven't
heard that I'm not familiar with
uprising which is Liberty
nations vodka
house pots okay well the people
who read
Liberty Nation I'm sure would
be hey I'm
just happy we're on a list
number seven
the tongue would show which is
a good
show that's a good
and he apparently is not that
conservative are the number six
the
Rubin report in the Rubin
reports really
just an interview shown it's
not a
conservative Dave Rubin is gay
liberal
yeah yeah I didn't know I use
it a gay
you need to adjust your gaydar
playoff
reason your gaydar needs some
adjustment
my friend and there's jokes to
be told
and number five the federalist
podcast
which I only listen to once
mm-hmm I
find it to be extremely no
offense to
the Federalists which if I like
the
publication but the podcast is
dull yeah
and then number four the Joe
Rogan
experience which is anything
but a he's
really kind of a liberal yeah
uh but
he's had he's had Alex Jones
and he
likes Alex Jones okay okay
that's sauce
yes yeah thus and number three
no agenda
hosted by Adam Korean Johnny
Dvorak the
no agenda podcast is a real
journey
through the minds of those
think I think
that someone was doing the list
and like
okay I got to write a little
blurb about
each of these podcasts let me
listen to
five minutes and if you listen
to the
first five minutes of our show
we could
indeed be talking about a
restaurant we
could be talking about you know
some
products and yeah then we go
into our
our personal experience so if
you listen
to like five minutes of the
opening of
our show yeah you probably
think oh
these guys go everywhere number
two the
ben shapiro show which is
really a radio
show but okay well it's no it's
no i i
consider what he does a podcast
well
he's on the radio and the
number one the
dan bond gino show the
undisputed number
one podcast for those who like
their
liberty and audio form this
show topped
the polls of both ln authors
and ellen
readers making it
in other words if both groups
liked it
right no bungee no is abraao guy
this shows a radio show too I
believe I
think the two those two shapiro
and
bungee no car crossovers we're
not we're
pure pure play baby pure play
and bungee
no is like it's roll dad Casper
he is a
natural broadcaster and he
would he's I
don't think I think his radio
show is on
Sirius XM how much radio show
there's a
lot of substituting for yes and
that's
that's what's gonna say he's
he's good
at AM radio talk-show type
stuff because
and Heaney and that it's a
skill you
need that skill to draw twenty
five
minutes of content out to a
full hour
because I subscribe to his
process and I
like his podcast what does but
I need
you know twenty five minutes of
the
information kind of were and
I'm sure
people say is that about our
show
although we're more than just
information we are we take you
on a
journey inside our mind inside
our minds
that's true that's true you
know you you
come you come for the
deconstruction you
stay for the sound effects
there you go
and the stories that's I think
that's
that's where and actually today
we're
going to be using some of our
our
expertise in in fields to help
people
deconstruct what is going on
what is
going on
well first John you can really
pick them
I'm surprised I mean this show
has
picked sports competition
winners that
has picked we tagged Donald
Trump very
early on is going to win the
Pope named
the Pope the before he became
before is
all you by this show I'll just
say it's
this show we've picked
eurovision song
contest winners we've had some
losers
too but usually we're able to
pick them
pretty accurately and wow man
on brexit
who would possibly be the next
or just
the UK possibly be the next
prime
minister with the resignation
of a
Teresa may you brought up a
name which
had never heard of before he
kept saying
yeah the Guv guy gov gold
Michael Gove well you can't
pick him
John for the last few weeks
Michael Gove
has had his sights set on
promising
future I can confirm that I
will be
putting my name forward to be
prime
minister of this country but it
is his
past that's getting attention
right now
mr. gobs cocaine admission
comes right a
little of his bid for the toy
leadership
so he had to come out and say I
did coke
I did coke cuz I guess what's
about to
publish a book or something and
this is
20 years ago but his actual
quote about
his misdeeds is perhaps even
more
interesting Mr Gove told the
Daily Mail
I took drugs on several
occasions at
social events more than 20
years ago
at the time I was a young
journalist it
was a mistake I look back and
think I
wish I hadn't done that now why
would he
add the moniker at the time I
was a
young journalist does that mean
journalists who are young or on
coke is
this what they do thank you for
your
answer I have no reason to
doubt it
that's in there for a reason
yeah that's the reason you just
that you
just outlined because it's true
no it's
because it's a great assertion
to make
and it did say putting everyone
on
notice notice I think a lot of
a young
journalists are on coke I think
a lot of
young people are on coke that
are in
hype you know pressure
businesses I
think there's a lot of coke
heads in the
Silicon Valley and I think
there's a lot
of coke heads in the New York
Times just
well you're good at detecting
that I
have no no drug gar in that in
that
regard I cannot tell y'all you
do check
them check how many times you
go to
their nose yeah well being
someone who
has Tourette's and tics you
know I'd be
wary now I gotta touch my nose
all of a
sudden just because we're
talking about
it's crazy this disease it's
crazy so
but of course everyone's okay
with it ah
we don't really care about his
history
no we're not America not crazy
like
America and all that we get all
nutty
about what you did in the past
so I guess there was a hit job
that they
tried to pull off on him and I
think
it's actually good to point out
the
journal that he was a young
journalist
because that puts the actual
journalist
on notice who were reporting on
the
story it does kind of cuz
that's kind of
the next obvious question as
was mine
really you kids all on coke the
so that
was a a hit job on him
something that
came out yesterday which to me
means
that the hag may be operative
again
do you remember hag yeah h AG
leg no hag
hag hag hags an acronym hag the
hillary
assassination group oh that oh
i forget
all about them yeah the had
been killing
the republicans in their homes
well me and i one of her two
brothers
hillary clinton's brothers died
Toni
Toni Rodham and you know which
I was it
was 64 65 but the cause of
death has not
been reported his unknown you
think it
was part of it
Hague operation well so why
wouldn't you
just say what happened you know
and so
you know when you don't say
anything
then typically then it doesn't
sound
like it was a sickness so it
may have
been a suicide or something I
don't know
if anything has come out since
we
started the show you also leave
usually
they won't say anything if it's
the AIDS
related generally speaking I've
noticed
this right but we are in the
age of
mopping up cleaning up and
getting rid
of stuff and this and and this
is really
once again I am so grateful for
our
value for value network of net
producers
and dudes and dudette dudes
named Ben
dudettes named Bernadette I
mean long
ago we made a decision for all
of our
show notes and all of our
information to
be run in the freedom
controller thank
you Dave Jones which is you know
structured all all tanks all
show knows
everything is structured taxes
it's XML
actually so it's it's highly
exportable
you can do all kinds of fun
things with
it so that's why we have
no agenda player that's why we
have
being at dot IO for the
shownotes search
so very quickly I was able to
bring to
the front these little nagging
remembrances that I had in the
back of
my mind my mind about her
brother Tony
yeah I forgot all about him
well let's
thank you this is what our No
Agenda
Network does we've got two
stories from
2015 when Tony and and Hugh both
actually were in the news with
controversy and this is
regarding the
2016 election so you know there
was
already some stuff brewing and
well
first we'll listen to CNN kind
of blow
it all off that Hillary
Clinton's
younger brother has parlayed his
relationship with Bill and
Hillary
Clinton throughout the years to
come up
with some sometimes dubious
business
deals for himself Maggie you
just laid
it out there has been an
ongoing focus
on the brothers Rodham right on
here
Rodham Hillary Clinton's
brothers what
was striking about the story
that my
colleague Steve Eagar did is
there are
these court transcripts where
Tony
Rodham openly says I leaned on
my
brother-in-law to get help me I
went
through the Clinton Foundation
he says
this that type of stuff I think
is very
unhelpful that you were going
to see an
attack mailers you were going
to see
that potentially in ads it says
here
when mr. Rodham was short on
cash in
2010 mr. Clinton helped him get
a job
for $72,000 a year raising
investments
in green Tech Automotive an
electric car
company then owned by Terry
McAuliffe an
old friend of mr. Clinton's and
now the
governor of Virginia don't we
all help
our brothers I was going to say
a much
what's wrong with that what's
wrong with
that yeah I know that I think
people
will forgive helping us I mean
he's not
a politician right Bill Clinton
is not
in office it doesn't seem to
conflict
with her job as Secretary of
State
oh no it didn't helped out the
brother-in-law I don't see that
as a
scandal to me if there's any
issue I
totally agree I think that
people
forgive you help your family
you help
you better I think that the
more you see
things of I you know I went to
the
foundation for help now the
foundation
says there's no evidence that
we did
anything that he said but it's
just it's
not great oh yeah so the found
nothing this was episode 706 by
the way
of the No Agenda show from that
same
episode we brought you this
report
Hillary Rodham Clinton's
brother Tony
Robbins sat on the board of a
self-described mining company
that in
2012 received one of only two
gold
exploitation permits from the
Haitian
government the first issued in
over 50
years the tiny North Carolina
company
VCS mining also included on its
board
Bill Clinton's co-chair of the
interim
Haiti recovery Commission
former Haitian
prime minister jean max bella
Reeve the
Rodham gold mine revelation is
just one
of dozens featured in a
forthcoming
bombshell investigative book by
three-time New York Times
bestselling
author Peter Schweitzer now of
course
was Clinton cash so there's
lots of
loose ends with the Tony and if
you have
an investigation into
connections with
the State Department
shenanigans going
on with the Obama
administration all
kinds of missing documents and
there's I
don't know how many
investigations are
now running we've got multiple
inspectors general you know
maybe Tony
got in the way
could be heads I have no no
better
answer I'm on the list
I have no better answer since
you know
there's no information tool on
the list
on the list of what of the hag
list the
body count
it's not just a body Hillary
yes exactly
yes I know was the last time
you looked
at that list is huge is a bit
as quite a
big list and I feel bad about
you gotta
go hey you know this list is a
little
bit no this is pretty big this
list I I
feel bad about going straight
to this I
mean even last night I'm
reading this
article and I go mm-hmm
and the keeper immediately goes
oh don't
tell me he was killed since
they haven't
told us what happened
you know there's you just got a
certain
yeah you got to think about
stuff and I
just recall that he was
controversial a
couple years ago around
elections and it
was important and they poo-poos
it on
CNN yet there was all kinds of
shenanigans with the gold mine
in Haiti
the gold mine in Haiti is a
classic but
it is a classic one of two
licenses okay
who knows who knows well I
guess if you
look at the New York Times
front page
today yeah you will see the
topic I'd
like to discuss the ad
pocalypse okay so
I have thoughts on this because
this
thing is I'm gonna let you do
your thing
but first of all I'm going to
kind of
predict what you're gonna do
why would
you do that why yeah why would
you
predict what the outcome of
what I'm
about to say is because I could
be wrong
and then you can gloat and if
you're
right then I don't have to do
it is that
the point again I can't predict
anything
actually I had my mind made up
what I
was gonna do because I knew you
were
gonna do this mm-hmm cuz you've
telegraphed it on Twitter
Oh dinner this is no okay no my
car it
was good but then I read this
article
yeah oh geez well and and
actually it
there is something important we
need to
do first people's brains are
getting
fried trying to understand the
perceived
censorship of conservatives on
social
media and this week in
particular it was
YouTube now the way all media
sees this
whether it's alternative
whether it's
mainstream it except for this
show and
this is so I was telegraphing I
was also
gauging response that we're
pretty much
the only ones or I I think
you're gonna
be on board with most what I
have to say
who see this in the way that
it's
actually unfolding and what
this is
really about so in the in the
in the
lexicon the waste people speak
in fact I
have a I have a little this was
on
Friday Glenn Greenwald was on
Tucker
Carlson which is always a fun
match
since Greenwald is definitely
not the
your typical Fox guest and
here's his
take on what went down and he's
missing
one important piece I mean I
personally
find steven crowder to be just a
contemptuous cretin as a
commentator I
do think he's an infantile
bully witch
and bigoted which are not words
I easily
invoke he didn't just criticize
Carlos
Massa he mocked him for being
gay and
for being Latino you used a
lisp and
things to ridicule him sends a
lot of
harassment his way but that's
the point
Tucker is that censorship
advocates want
our brains to only go to that
most
primitive first level of do we
hate this
person and are we therefore
glad that
they're being censored without
thinking
about the framework being
endorsed or
the consequences right that in
super MIT
I mean I've personally it
resonates a
lot for me because I've dealt
with
harassment far greater than
what Carlos
maza is complaining of on the
game
in a country Brazil that just
elected a
president with driven by intense
anti-gay animus my husband's a
member of
Congress in the oppositional
party
we've been mocked and derided
with our
sexual orientation not by a
random
youtubers but by the president
of a
country himself on Twitter and
his
family members who are elected
members
of Congress and it would never
occur to
me to run to social media
companies to
beg for censorship because in
part it's
just something that comes with
the
territory being a public figure
but more
so because I don't want to live
in a
world where our discourse is
policed and
determined by benevolent
overlords
who run Silicon Valley
companies you
know we're always going to
cater to the
most powerful faction that's
what
happened here YouTube caved in
not in
defense of the marginalized
person but
in defense of the powerful one
the one
who despite being gay and
Latino works
for a major media conglomerate
and
that's what they're always
gonna do is
defend the mob and defend the
powerful
at the expense of those who are
marginalized so Glenn Greenwald
is
correct that Silicon Valley
companies
will always cater to the
strongest
influence but he's incorrect in
saying
that thus that they were always
catered
to the strongest influence
being big
media corporations no bullshit
and I'm
and we're gonna explain why and
with
this Vox Crowder gay wonk
whatever it
was controversy the timing was
perfect
for a 21-month investigative
piece to be
published today that's just so
coincidental this is the making
of a
YouTube radical this is the
front page
of the New York Times which
really shows
you how evil YouTube is at a
systemic
level and the people on it in
particular
pointing out stefan molyneux i
think he
can be prepared for what's
coming now
there was actually on the front
page of
the New York Times a couple of
things
one they had the for the front
page of
the online edition they had
four people
it's on the front on the front
page of
the of the printed edition to
okay they had these four people
well I
think the front page of the
online is
pretty much a reflection except
on the
online version they had them in
motion
they were moving there oh yeah
that's
better
it's an extra dimension it's
actually
he's kind of cool so they had
the blonde
in the bunk or whatever there
blondie
blondie whatever her name is on
the left
and then they had Paul and then
they had
the other Paul Watson mm-hmm
who's the guy with the beard
I've seen
him before but I for some
reason I get
and they didn't have a name of
anybody I
arrived it's I I don't know do
you know
help somebody the chat room
knows who
that is well you say I don't
know who it
is
okay well I'll open up the
article then
yeah hold on mom can tell you
exactly
who it is
yeah they got me to heaven they
must
have a million different
pictures on
this article you mean the front
page the
articles got a million pictures
okay on
the front page of the times
that you
have these four guys okay let
me take a
look and I can tell you for a
fact that
on the on the article I can't
identify
more than one or two people
there okay
Lauren southern I mean it's if
you're
looking at Lauren's other
that's blondie
that's Lauren southern Lauren
yes Laura
it even says it in the caption
John okay
clockwise from pleasures
Blondell is
just like Lauren southern stefan
molyneux Paul Joseph Watson and
rebel
media and rebel media would be
on the
left though that's not - that's
Paul
Joseph what Paul Joseph Watson
the
rights everything correctly
even their
caption is incorrect and it's
actually
it's a nice long piece very
long article
but before we get to that what
we're
going what we're going to talk
about is
advertising and I think it's
probably a
good idea for us to state our
credentials in particular
digital
advertising because for some
reason
people think they understand
advertising
the misconception that
advertising is oh
you get bigger numbers you make
more
money it's how it works
everybody
and advertisers don't care that
advertise they just want
eyeballs this
is what eyeballs that's how it
works
and I think this started with
I'm code
down yes I think this started
with
really with the first ad
networks and
and the display what we had the
display
ads first if it just showed on
a web
page you remember those days
you'd make
money by a couple of guys that
used to
work at PC Magazine when they
went over
to see net which is the company
invented
the banner ad so they get
banner ads and
you know this is morphed over
time but
let's just go back my
credentials that
besides having brought
Budweiser to MTV
which was very precarious that
but what
MTV really wanted Budweiser on
the
channel we felt you know for
the money
no other reason for the money
and that
there wasn't they couldn't
figure out a
way to do it until we came up
with the
idea of Spring Break Spring
Break was
created for Budweiser not
because MTV
wanted to go show how much fun
kids were
having it was to get Budweiser
on the
channel and there were several
stipulations the main one was
nothing
could be done live that MTV did
Mardi
Gras we do live we do live all
the time
back in the day at least I had
done it's
all over but Spring Break
Spring Break
spring break had to be taped
taped and
edited and delayed because that
Budweiser could not condone
anything
happening that won't involve
kids drunk
which is pretty much what
Spring Break
is but it happened and we got
you know
Budweiser and Bud Light and
there was
you know it was fantastic and
in fact
were then we brought in Nivea
for some
of the stuff that you know that
might
portray too much drunkenness so
they had
different advertisers but the
the
sensitivity of the advertisers
when I'm
when I'm getting to so I
started a
company in 1993 called on-ramp
bought 15
other digital agencies and
created think
new ideas took that public on
NASDAQ in
1996 with Omnicom arguably the
biggest
either number two one or two
depending
on you know WPP who are you
arguing with
conglomerate of advertising
agencies
they were our largest
shareholder
personally invested
John ran the CEO and we built
the first
leg plague these companies they
bought
up everybody well they didn't
buy us up
we wouldn't let they wanted to
buy I
said no we'll go this is that
all these
little advertising agencies and
some big
ones used to be very famous
Doyle Dane
and burned back you know these
guys in
that those guys and they all
end up part
of a giant conglomerate
desirable yes
and they call the shots and we
continue
please have built the first web
site for
actually Budweiser there was my
first
call we got Budweiser calm bud
calm ha
like calm Reebok calm they
didn't have a
website we built Reebok calm
pant Tampax
calm built this company to our
company
thick new ideas to 700
employees seven
different countries 450 million
dollars
in revenue yeah this is when
you were
famous this was and this was a
and yeah
we were there with agency comm
was
called digital uh a Silicon
Alley Jason
Calacanis was still in New York
so
learned a lot about the
sensitivities of
advertisers let me give you a
few
examples from the early days
Reebok we
built planet Reebok calm and we
put a
forum in there get a panicked
call from
the from the wasn't the CEO was
the
chief marketing officer people
are
talking about our shoes that
they're
being made by children on this
for to
close it down close the website
down she
was a woman that's the crazy
part that's
how she sounded that's another
it may
unfortunately be this way for
the whole
show and you know these were
huge issues
we had to AT&T oh my goodness
just a
smaller example shut the
website down we
did the you will camp you will
you will
calm she registered was a
member Tom
Selleck and he had these
stylized and of
course it all came true he'd be
sitting
on the beach with some kind of
you know
digital thing some slab of
whatever one
day he'll send an email from
the beach
you will you know sir
so he built the website you
will calm
and it was a it was a promotion
with a
feedback loop but these are the
days
of color monitors that did 256
colors
and the that again you know we
usually
dealt with it with the chief
with a
c-suite the chief marketing
officers in
buy-in from the CEO so it was a
big deal
they were looking at the AT&T
logo which
of course has to be so many
pixels from
the with him talking pixels at
the times
there's so many inches from the
border
of the page and you're from any
content
around it but because of the
color of
the monitors in the state of
color
correctness and and clarity
exist it
didn't look like the AT&T blue
logo shut
the website down you know I had
to I had
to fly the fly I think was at
Boston at
the time whoever was in charge
of it
then had to explain that that's
not how
so they're very very very sad
oh here's
another one's my favorite weed
so we
were a wee after being digital
we really
became a full-service agency
and also
did television commercials and
we did a
big positioning piece for
Oracle for the
Superbowl and this would have
been Super
Bowl oh man the one in 97-98
can't
remember Oracle was major
sponsor and we
did this beautiful you know
like you see
monks piece where Oracle we're
saving
the world's gonna be great and
we had a
the U is one of the first times
a URL
ran on the screen on the screen
he was
in sick or achill comm um in
fact it
might have been oracle contest
comm or
some specialized thing so this
was the
cell Oracle's wares and people
started
hitting the server the minute
that
popped up on screen we were
running the
server and everything got
overloaded
pretty much immediately yet we
had no
idea what to expect these
things hadn't
been done yet unfortunately we
well
fortunately had put some
failover stuff
in to multiple servers and some
of those
were iis internet information
servers
running on windows with the
microsoft
sequel back-end
and somehow you know it failed
over to
these other websites it got
hammered so
bad that an error appeared on
the screen
with Oracle meal contest com
error
Microsoft sequel server internet
information server let me tell
you we
got fired we get fired for that
yeah I
would fire you too of course
you would
of course I even tried to lie
it off but
it didn't work so we got fired
there is such sexy vaguely
remember that
incident because it may have
floated
around in the in the tech
writing oh
that could have yeah yeah I
think it was
one of those things we view
running it
Microsoft did the same thing
when they
bought hotmail and it turned
out they
were running it was running on
your on
your what yeah of course try
running a
hundred people on exchange let
alone
hundreds of millions so the
point is
have a lot of experience with
advertisers and sensitivity
that they
have and controversy if it's
uncontrolled they love
controversy can
be great that a Reebok and Nike
both use
this all the time when it's
controlled
controversy when they know the
parameters they know where it
could spin
out of control but if it's an
unknown if
they really don't know even the
smallest
risk the smallest risk will be
taken as
let's avoid it let's not do
that things
to go bad John I'd like you to
just
briefly give us a few of your
credentials so we so people
understand
that we come from a business
where we
really understand what's going
on and
it's way beyond just numbers
well I've
talked about on the last show
which is
the fact that I've always
worked in a
commercial environments they
said well I
was on public radio for a while
but
that's very similar except that
the
commercial environment is kind
of hidden
from the public but you know PC
Magazine
San Francisco Examiner or some
of these
and I probably every computer
magazine
that was done in the 80s I've
written
for him I've written for all of
them and
then I've written for the New
York Times
and elsewhere
and you are very cognizant of
the fact
even though you don't talk
about it too
much of advertisers and what
and what
their influence is and you get
condemned
for it constantly people who
always said
well the only reason you're
doing that
is because you've got a lot of
advertisers in the magazines
that
support this and so you won't
say
anything bad about them but
ironically
the public doesn't seem to
really have a
clue
they that's an old bromide that
door the
advertisers are influencing the
editorial because the main one
that
they'd always bitch and moan
about was
Microsoft right and they'd
always say
well Microsoft you know owns PC
Magazine
and Microsoft makers of
Microsoft and
Microsoft rarely if ever
advertised in
PC Magazine us almost ever yet
they were
always playing because we don't
want to
hurt their feelings I mean the
editors
were pretty soft about a lot of
this
stuff but might one of my
favorite
examples was I was in being
syndicated
around the world on all these
crazy
little piece of magazines that
were
everywhere and I would and I
wrote
something up that pissed off
Microsoft
and they even though they don't
advertise they have a lot of
they had a
lot of public relations people
and they
had me banned from PC Magazine
Italy of
all places really Microsoft
made a big
stink said they'll never
advertise again
if they Dvorak call them ever
appears in
our magazine right and so I
thought that
was pretty gruesome well that's
actually
it was a great example just
just repeat
that again they said what they
said that
if Dvorak appears in any issue
of PC
Magazine Italy there would they
will not
advertise with them ever
regardless of
what it's about regardless of
where your
column is it was just you and
your inner
attitude you and your I
actually showed
up as being banned in wonderous
discovery during one of these
Microsoft
lawsuits mm-hmm and somebody
sent me
that some pages from discovery
this was
sort of discovery so great yes
because
you can really get all the
ducks and I
was listed on there as a guy
that they
should be talking persona
grata yeah it's also banned by
by Apple
I wrote a column about Steve
that was a
pretty nasty column I was it
was an info
world when I was there I wrote
his calm
when Jobs quit Apple was
rousted by
Scully right uh and I wrote and
he's a
Josh was a jerk this one I
wrote Steve
goodbye Steve Jobs good
riddance I think
was the bad boy told me that
they saw
that calm in his office into
something
and I was banned I wouldn't get
any
products I wouldn't get invited
any
events who cares
to drive down to Cupertino
anyway well
but but anyways but the best
story was
Microsoft big advertiser of
throwing
their weight around in Brazil
they had a
piece of magazine Brazil and I
would go
down there every so often cuz I
wrote
for other magazines down there
and I was
hanging out with the guy who
was the
publisher and he said he said
that
Microsoft came down there and
said we
want we want 12-month
advertising spread
and then a six-month
advertising spread
for the next year and a half
right and
it's a guy game of the the the
rate card
he said in Microsoft guy the
sales guy
goes no does this we're not
paying
anything for these ads oh you
just run
them so what are you talking
about
running ads for free Susanoo
you run him because if you
don't have
Microsoft ads in your magazine
oh you're
not you sir you're not a real
magazine
exactly exactly and I thought
that was
fascinating that's a good one
like that well then so the
point is I've
been around well and together
we we read
pod show slash me view we
learned
exactly how problem certainly
in today's
environment where you have ad
buying
networks you have auction based
systems
where people go in and say okay
well
yeah and it's it's what you'd
expect it
to be it's what the promise
always was
the promise was alright I want
to get
twenty four thirty
five-year-old they
want to have them interested in
this and
just didn't that and get those
the
eyeballs I want and then go
ahead and
put it out there and of course
this
would run on these networks it
would run
on all kinds of scam sites
pop-unders popovers invisible
down on
the page never saw it all kinds
of bots
fake cliques fake views so much
and then
the advertisers started to go
yeah you
know I got a call from my
client and he
saw his BMW ad running on this
porn site
and you know so we have to
control them
the ad networks had to clean up
their
business because of course it's
it the
the basic idea of you pay
fifteen
dollars per thousand people
that have
seen this click this read this
heard
this etc that remains but when
you have
everyone able to see all of the
places
the advertising shows up and
the brand
itself who has been promised a
and here
it comes brand safe exposure and
experience they get very upset
when in
fact at media we had this exact
example
with BMW and it also ran on I
think was
either Madge Weinstein's
podcast and
just on the on the show page
and Madge
Winston is the bloated lesbian
from
Chicago and that they pulled
the whole
campaign well you guys you how
can we
how can we trust you how can
you prove
to us that that will never
happen again
and I think it consisted of me
putting
on my MTV jacket and hair and
going over
and blowing someone who's still
remembered and that's usually
how we got
out of these things so we
understand
this business and it's not as
cut and
dry as you think it would be
and and
this is where everyone is
missing what
is really happening here and
there's no
incentive for anyone to tell
you exactly
what's happening except for the
guys who
are no longer in the advertising
business that would be us now
YouTube
it's it's they don't break it
out per se
but I've looked at all the
estimates
approximately eight billion
dollars a
year in revenue comes in from
YouTube
this is what we used to call
them the
business
long tail revenue long tail and
this is
the only model that was working
this is
not hits the idea of having
hits as in a
hit podcast network which as
you know
I'm we proclaim that you cannot
monetize
the network you cannot the only
way to
do this is by running hundreds
of
millions of ads on cat videos
kids
dancing birthday parties you
know that
kind of stuff that's YouTube's
revenue
eight billion dollars a year
now some
say five six I'm just gonna put
it at
eight that sounds about right
that's a
lot of money and it's not
coming from
Crowder it's not coming from
Joe Rogan
did pieces of that sure this is
coming
from
huge huge volume the problem
with huge
volume is if you don't have
artificial
intelligence that can actually
flag
objectionable content that an
advertiser
would object to we just gave
you all
these instances and examples
you have to
employ people we know that
there and all
these thousands of people are
working on
checking uploads making sure
all the
videos are brand safe and
determining
whether they should have
advertising
running against them or not
which has
turned into this de monetizing
term
which is completely
disingenuous and not
what's really happened we
talked about
this on the last show so the
bad PR is a
problem and it's a huge problem
if it's
systemic so just reading from
this
article that came out today
just so you
know where the New York Times
is coming
from the New York Times has an
agenda in
this and it's not reporting it
is an
agenda of grabbing the
advertisers from
YouTube as much as they can get
and
every everyone who reports on
this
controversy in the way that
they have
been as a left/right censorship
conservativism bias it's not
the bottom
line
follow the money eight billion
dollars
and
just YouTube if alienation was
one
ingredient in mr. Cain's
radicalization
this is from the New York Times
and
persuasive partisans like mr.
Mullin you
were another the third was a
series of
product decisions YouTube made
starting
back in 2012 this is the
genesis of how
we got here today in March of
2012
YouTube's engineers made an
update to
the site's recommendations
algorithm for
years the algorithm had been
programmed
to maximize views by showing
users
videos that were likely they
were likely
to click on but creators had
learned to
game the system inflating their
views by
posting videos with exaggerated
titles
or choosing salacious thumbnail
images
in response YouTube's executives
announced that the
recommendation
algorithm would give more
weight to
watch time rather than views
that way
creators would be encouraged to
make
videos that users would finish
users
would be more satisfied with
and you too
would be able to show more ads
this is
what this story is about a
month after
its algorithmic week YouTube
changed
rules to allow all video
creators to run
ads alongside their videos and
eat a
portion of the revenue they
generated
previously only popular
channels that
had been vetted by YouTube were
able to
run ads very key difference
they went
away from the vetting to the
unvetted
the new algorithm worked well
but it
wasn't perfect one problem
according to
several of the current and
former
YouTube employees is that the
artificial
intelligence tended to
pigeonhole users
into specific niches
recommending videos
that were similar to ones they
had
already watched eventually
users got
bored Google brain researchers
I guess
that's a division wondered if
they could
keep YouTube users engaged for
longer by
steering them into different
parts of
YouTube and so this is where
this
article takes an interesting
turn and
starts to talk about
reinforcement
learning this was their their
new
algorithm reinforce a huge
success and I
what luck I watched this talk
at an AI
conference in February
min min Chen the Google brain
researcher
said it was YouTube's most
successful
launch in two years site wide
views
increased by nearly 1% a gain
that a
youtube scale could amount to
millions
more hours of daily watch time
and
millions more dollars in
advertising
Nupur year she added that the
out new
algorithm was already starting
to alter
users behavior we can really
leave users
towards a different state versus
recommending content that is
familiar so
it was very popular
lots of people watched but they
were
going towards areas that this
article
says claims was all this bad
shit
bad people all right Nazis KKK
quadroons
the whole thing is just bad why
are they
saying this because the
advertisers have
become very wary YouTube and
Google
isn't in an incredibly
precarious
situation and I shall explain
one month
ago the up fronts were held in
mainly in
New York
John you wanna explain the
television
upfront process whether the
executives
going up in front of all the
advertisers
and and affiliates depending
could be
affiliates or advertisers or
both and
they give them the spiel for
their
upcoming season and what
they're gonna
do and where the strengths are
gonna be
in where the week this is gonna
be what
they're gonna look for and to
fill these
slots advertising slots and how
they're
gonna make so much money I'm
gonna beat
the crap out of the other
networks they
really got it they really got
it figured
out I think just like that so
we have
the examine that thing probably
started
with Yahoo years ago Terry
Semel and the
Hollywood guy they started
doing their
own content we're gonna be just
like
television we're gonna be
better well
today that day is here and
YouTube is
coming in as a as a television
provider
so this is just from one month
ago TV
networks came out with a strong
message
as they courted advertisers at
the
annual upfront presentations in
New York
this week digital may be hot
and growing
like crazy but TV can provide a
brand
safe space for ads as the tech
world
grapples with a series of
privacy
scandals and abuses of their
platforms
and this of course is a CNBC
article
these are all mainstream
companies who
want to fuck Google for a
number of
reasons the main one being well
it's all
of the dull of Silicon Valley
but right
now we're just focusing on
YouTube makes
it easier companies including
CBS Disney
FOX NBC Universal and Warner
Media
pitched advertisers on their
programming
and promise of their own
upcoming
streaming services just two
weeks after
many of the digital players
like YouTube
and Hulu courted the same
advertisers at
the news fronts presentations
the
network's positioned their own
offerings
as bigger and safer than the
challenges
are starting to see what's
happening if
you want to take these billions
of
dollars in advertisement away
from your
competitor it behooves you to
do news
stories about controversies
involving
left-right Trump the orange man
bad
anything controversial anything
advertisers will walk away from
that
particularly today's media
buyers who
are 20-somethings they don't
give a crap
they just don't want to get in
trouble
they can probably get a couple
of floor
seats for a game if they you
know take
business from this particular
advertiser
they're not gonna put their
their their
ass on the line for some place
where
some guy is you know he's he's
calling
this guy bliss peak we're you
know yeah
it's all cool and YouTube's
left them on
I took away as well they took
away his
ad but still it could slip into
something could it be some
other person
was doing like that I'm a
little bit
worried couple other articles
so the
title of that was TV networks
pitched
brand safety streaming to
advertisers at
upfront here is the next
article and
this was just once and this is
all this
is Reuters and this is uh this
from yeah
May 13th three years ago the
beginning
of the end of the US television
business
looks certain when one of the
largest ad
buying agencies vowed to move a
big
chunk of its purchases to
YouTube from
TV budgets let me repeat that
this is an
ROI turd article
it looks certain when one of
the largest
ad buying agencies vowed to
move a big
chunk of its purchases to
YouTube from
TV budgets the TV business did
not die
far from it instead data
compiled from
ad tracking by ad tracking for
a media
radar at Reuters requests
showed some
advertisers are spending more on
television networks online
properties
and less on alphabet inks video
service
that data partially explains why
Google's parent had its lowest
quarterly
revenue growth in three years
no I
didn't mean to do that mean to
hit the
ding
this isn't when you're talking
eight
billion dollars just from
YouTube alone
this gets people's attention
this week
the big US TV networks plan to
drive the
knife further into digital
rivals
repeating the phrase brand
safety and
exploiting YouTube's struggle
to curb
unsuitable content during the
upfront
ad sales period when TV
networks preview
the fall season for advertisers
on stage
and in private meetings against
from
Comcast corpse NBC Universal
CBS Corp
Viacom say they are pitching
themselves
as one-stop shops because they
have
viewers on TV their own
streaming
services and their own streaming
services I think it's I don't
have to
beat this horse anymore that the
mainstream outfits are creating
as much
panic and controversy and
highlighting
as many different controversies
as
possible to screw these guys
into
oblivion who have been eating
their
lunch this is and is it a
coincidence
that these things happened a
month ago
in the past month this is where
we've
seen all the stepped-up D
platforming D
monetization which begs the
question to
me what took them so long
they're idiots
they are who's worked in
broadcasting
with it and you can anybody out
there
who's worked in broadcasting
knows that
you you constantly talk about
the
management of radio station
being the
dumbest guys in the world and
the
management of televisions doing
the
dumbest guys in the world and
then
people go back from television
to radio
and back and forth well you
know I think
that radio guys are dumber than
the TV
guy so no I think the TV guys
are dumber
but there's a theme there's a
constant
theme they're all dumb and
they're
scared and this is this is the
it's so
it's really disgusting
that they are hiding their
their revenue
quest and actually propagating
derisively havior amongst the
public by
making it all-seeing that
censorship it's it's you know
it's
left-right it's the Silicon
Valley bias
you know what it is it's the
bias of
advertising executives it's the
it's the
fear and bias of the well
advertisers
themselves because of contrib
it doesn't
matter what the controversy is
but this
is an easy one all you have to
do is
that guys alright boom done I
don't want
to advertise on them you know
why
because one little thing could
happen
we've shown you examples of
what can
happen Alex Jones this has been
going on
for a long time and they're
disingenuous
and everyone including Glenn
Greenwald
is buying into that they're
sitting
there making decisions oh let's
get rid
of this Crowder guy because
he's all
right first of all they didn't
get rid
of him they D monetized him
which means
you know what we like the
million views
you get so we don't want any
ads running
on it but we like that our
algorithms
can make people click on stuff
where we
do have ads running so that's
how how
blame it really is that they
can't even
admit to that but they don't
give a shit
they'll take anybody off in a
heartbeat
eight billion dollars in
revenue doesn't
come from a couple of big hits
it
doesn't work that way in my you
cannot
monetize the network is going
to come
true because you cannot
monetize the
long tail either it's turning
out
because you can't police the
content in
Google and I mean right now you
see
Twitter Twitter it it has
turned on some
algorithmic deletion tools and
you can't
have a conversation on Twitter
anymore
you'll go to someone and you've
seen
this in your timeline John you
see
there's like someone tweet
something you
go into the thread and it's
like deleted
deleted not available not
available and
these have all been removed so
they've
broken their actual service you
cannot
you can't you can't read a
thread
anymore because it has to be
removed for
advertiser safety well I'm
going to make
a prediction
not about what you were gonna
say which
is pretty much what I thought
you've I
knew you would I knew you know
I was
gonna do them first of all and
I wrote
about this in PC Magazine
online and
probably a year ago Facebook
and I'm
throwing them in Twitter YouTube
everybody all those guys all
the social
networks with maybe the
exception of
linked in but even though
they're kind
of kind of falling into it too
with
their little articles and crap
that they
publish there yeah for free
these people
are not just did they're not an
open
sewer well they are an open
sewer but
that's not what I'm referring
to they
are technically publishers in
every way
I see no reason to think
otherwise mhm
and they do editing and they
kick people
off an ad they reject certain
things so
this is all part of the
publishing game
that's what you do when you're a
publisher they don't want to
take full
responsibility because there
are some
legal limits to what you can do
and not
doing you can get sued in
certain ways
because especially when you
have the big
deep pockets of these monstrous
companies if they do I mean
Google
alphabet that's where I think
they've
been trying to divvy the
company up in
different ways so they can you
know have
a good so they could be liable
only in a
kind of a pocketed area but it
did at
the point where they you have
to finally
bite the bullet and say okay
we're
publishers they are going to
take these
people that made lots of money
on
YouTube like there are people
who have
made a million dollars a year
mm-hmm
sure though it's possible a lot
of it is
fraud and there's been articles
about
that and by the way did we to do
piggyback on what you just
discussed if
you go back to last year the
2000 2018
blade the year starting
probably in
October there were a lot of New
York
Times articles and you can look
them up
in fact you can go do a search
on fake
YouTube views yes you'll find
that there
was a article after article
starting
actually it even started in 2015
according to this little list I
have
here where it they've named
name saying
these are fake views and I've
known
about this and you've known
about it and
they still rack them
and this was supposed to be the
scandal
that was gonna pull the rug out
from
under the youtubers and
everyone else
that had advertising support the
advertisers are another group
that's
kind of stupid and they paid no
attention to these articles and
that's
when the the worm turned and
they had to
take this other tact which is
the
article that Yorkin talking
about and
that seems to be working well
their
words screwing the youtubers
and these
other people on behalf of the
old line
and publishers dia that it's
all fraud
didn't work so now we got this
other
censorship thing going on it
that seems
to be working and in fact there
was I
just want to discuss section
230 before
for a moment because this is
this is
what gives what indemnifies
these
companies from being sued for
under tort
law libel etc there was a an
interesting
article about Google and they
were I
mean with Google's at Facebook
and they
were arguing in court
let me see if I can find this
here about
whether they had the right to
do this or
not and they actually they will
here we
go the internet Association
which
represents Facebook Google
Twitter and
other major platforms claims
that
section 230 is necessary for
these firms
to quote provide forums and
tools for
the public to engage in a wide
variety
of activities that the First
Amendment
protects but rather than
facilitate free
speech Silicon Valley now uses
section
230 to justify censorship
leading to a
legal policy model for instance
in
response to a lawsuit
challenging its
speech policies Google claimed
that
restricting its right to censor
would
quote impose liability on
YouTube as a
publisher in the same motion
Google
argues that it's right to
restrict
political content also derives
from its
First Amendment protection for a
publishers editorial judgments
so on one
hand they say we're not a
publisher on
the other hand they say we need
to have
the rights of publishers and I
went
to look at section 230 and I've
always
thought that it was kind of the
distinction between publisher or
platform it's not this thing
was written
in 1996 pass during Bill
Clinton's reign
and there's you need two
definitions one
what is an interactive computer
service
which means any information
service
system were accessed software
provider
that provides or enables
computer access
by multiple users to a computer
server
specifically including a
service or
system that provides access to
the
Internet and such systems
operated or
services offered by libraries or
educational institutions which
is just a
comparison not a requirement
and then
the information content provider
definition needs any person or
entity
that is responsible in whole or
in part
for the creation or development
of
information provided through the
internet or interactive
computer service
and here is the main part of
the law
that no provider or user
important of an
interactive computer service
shall be
treated as the publisher or
speaker of
any information provided by
another
information content provider
meaning
youtube/google
anyone where you post your
stuff what we
used to call user-generated
that's
that's your problem right off
the bat no
matter what it is cannot be
held liable
yeah on the account up no here
we go no
provider or user of an
interactive
computer service shall be held
liable on
the account of two cases any
action
voluntarily taken in good faith
to
restrict access to or
availability of
material that the provider or
user
considers to be obscene lewd
lascivious
filthy excessively violent
harassing or
otherwise objectionable whether
or not
such material is
constitutionally
protected or
cannot be held liable by any
action
taken to e Nate to enable or
make
available to information content
providers or others technical
means to
restrict access to material
described in
paragraph one so it doesn't
matter what
they are it doesn't matter they
have the
right to cut to restrict to do
whatever
they want and so do you
apparently cuz
you know it's user and provider
so
there's no way that publisher or
anything else comes into play
here yet
unless they are authoring the
content
now you can argue that that an
algorithm
rights or restructuring signo
has made
that argument but it's an
interesting
well I think I could make the
argument
yeah I think that you mention
it it's
not a bad argument to make it's
they
have algorithms doing anything
they are
then authoring I believe that
to be true
if you have an algorithm that
can drive
a car it can probably write an
article
of course we know neither one
the point
is is that these guys are
publishers and
someday this will be recognized
in yes
law and they will and the
prediction I
was gonna make is that at some
point
they're gonna get a clue and
realize
that as publishers which they
really are
anyway that they don't have to
do this
piece of the action business
with these
people that are getting a
million
dollars a year at all they can
just say
hey we'll give you a $50,000
just keep
doing what you're doing
ya know it is ya know ads just
do
whatever you're doing so we can
have
people click other places
fred's but I
think that's pretty limited
because
again it is the controversy
that sets
advertisers off and it's being
exploited
by the mainstream who are
trying to get
those advertisers sure and and
finally
got a clue it forever the
mainstream
someone promoting these things
why are
you guys promoting this I used
to do
this yes
PC Magazine would continually
without be
any advertisers even taking
part because
Microsoft never advertised they
kept
promoting Microsoft products
and I said
why aren't we promoting all the
competitor
to Microsoft right because that
will
keep us in business in the
future
because you'll have a lot of
different
people that can advertise it'll
be a
richer environment now now
Microsoft
makes a pretty good the word
get more
promotion you know we had one
time there
was like maybe six or seven
good word
processors out there they all
boil down
to word there's nothing out
there now
this is really competitive
remember jazz the Lotus jazz
could never
quite get it copy so the part
that I
take offense to is the
mainstream who
are disingenuously highlighting
divisive
arguments for their own benefit
to take
the advertise to scare
advertisers away
from doing business with
Silicon Valley
I think they're doing a lot of
damage to
the to public discourse in the
process
of that and I think that's
that's a
egregious to me and so I'd like
to
suggest a way to break them and
I've
always been a radical is this
there's an
inherent flaw they have a flaw
all of
these companies have a flaw
that can be
exploited and will bring them
to their
knees interested I am but I
first I want
to kind of really up or kind of
back you
up with this would look at this
front
page of the New York Times and
just tell
you what the headlines are how
can a I
be weaponized to spread
disinformation
they are the same thing this is
this
article shows up right under
the making
of a YouTube radical which is
what you
were talking about which also
had a kind
of a overhead it had like a
section
named extremism online Oh
perfect you
have wires and then another
when the
editorial board is writing an
editor
why's America so far behind
Europe on
digital privacy yep yep so the
whole
thing is like targeting
targeting the
tech community so what's your
thick
what's your thesis every company
Facebook
well the ones that matter
Facebook
Twitter Google or YouTube in
this case
and Google has a pretty damn
good
business with search they are
now
they've been put on notice they
now have
to make sure that everything
that's
uploaded that could possibly
have ads if
I cannot even do it that you're
saying
ad yes or no that's probably
what
they're looking at this point
when you
report something on Google
Facebook or
Twitter if you report it with
hate
speech which cannot be
evaluated by
artificial intelligence and is
not being
evaluated by artificial
intelligence
from all reports I've read that
has to
go to human being report
everything as
hate speech every video every
tweet we
need scripts we need browser
extensions
everything needs to be reported
as hate
speech it will bring these
companies
down they will not be able to
handle the
volume it will it will create
backlogs
who will create anger it will
create
people not understanding it
will bring
them down now of course that
means we
get you know mainstream
companies is our
it'll definitely did not
understand it
because if you got a new alert
comes
through your desk and you get
to look at
it and somebody says hate
speech you'd
have to watch the whole they
gotta watch
the whole thing and then you'd
have to
try to say what where's the
hate speech
probably have to watch it again
this is
you could really screw up the
system no
no not could it has to happen
it is the
it is the look professor Ted
calls you
he calls on you to stop the tech
revolution slow it down this is
if it
wasn't for the it being it
being very
divisive in culture and people
getting
very angry at each other and
fueled by
this fight about for their
dollars I
wouldn't care that much but now
we just
have to wait gotta kill him you
gotta
kill them all
everything everything you see
even from
me you see a tweet from me a
video
reported hate speech everything
that's
the way and it'll get bogged
down they
will freak out they won't know
what to
do yeah well I look at the I
know the
only time you get attention
from the
Twitter when you report mm-hmm
is if you
put abusive against a group or
them into
certain kinds of things let me
check
quick party exercise the system
right
now I look at Twitter and see
you and
report something for example
I'll just
boot it up which I can do now
and I will
look at now let's just take any
old
random thing here here's some
from split
they don't like them so I'm
gonna go
click and I was gonna go report
tweet
and now it's gonna say I'm not
interested in this tweet which
doesn't
mean anything is suspicious or
spam it
displays a sensitive image is
abusive
allure or harmful you probably
have to
click on its abusive and then
when you
do that it goes to it's
disrespectful
dad no big deal contains private
information getting who's
targeted
harassment directs and this is
the big
one
directs hate that's what you're
talkin
to ya hate against a protected
category
that's what you'd click on I
think if
you also clicked on threatening
violence
or physical harm that would
probably
help a little bit but ok you
got it in
this you have to be careful
because
couraging a suicide yeah you're
going to
eventually get to get kicked
off by
doing this too much cuz you
know if you
report if you report
fraudulently do it
quite a bit
yeah but not fraudulently no no
mine are
all legit of course obviously
um but
hated hate speech yeah it's
like that's
pretty it's pretty open for
interpretation yeah you could
do it a
few times everyone could do it
a few
times without getting kicked
off keep
them busy
holiness chained to the show
and they'll
kick you off pretty protected
I've got
the check mark you've got the
mark of
the beast is what you've got
you are
anything but protected they've
been
waiting to kick your ass off
for a long
time one misstep Dvorak we run
verifying
you it's like taking you away
your
personality I don't know who's
ever been
unverified verification it has
happened
to like a knighting it has
happened yes
it has happened to people that
the check
mark got taken away what is it
what what
is the point the verifications
is there
for a purpose not it's to mean
that the
person that says who they say
they are
are who they are they they
unverified
Milo you nah police before they
kicked
him off which was funny we
laughed about
it I don't remember them on
verifying is
yes they unverified him well
that makes
zero sense yeah that's a fact
if he's
not verified then it stopped
maybe it's
not Milo and they won't would
they kick
him off they're kicking off
some random
guy it doesn't make that of
course it
doesn't make their own Terms of
Service
report them for hate speech
divorce shut
down before we go to our break
since we
took a little time on that I've
some new
information that I'd like to
report
regarding the Boeing 737 max 8
you know
these problems with em Cass
software
that's the you know we've kind
of been
through this how they they
changed the
aircraft didn't make the
changes clear
to pilots you know didn't really
document them the way they
could have
been and then with one faulty
sensor all
kinds of things when haywire
and 346
people died in two of these
aircraft now
when Obama was president the FAA
certification system the ODA
organization designation
authorization
program was being pushed very
hard by
the administration to in a to
fast-track
sales of Boeing and to push
through
push the the pipeline as fast as
possible under the program
companies
like Boeing were able to
appoint their
own representatives to act
instead of
the FAA inspectors and I don't
know if
we talked about it in that to
that
degree at the time this was
taking place
at the time it took place we've
talked
about it since a little bit I
mean it
was a big complaint that
they're given
was pointing the finger at
Boeing
inspectors well in fact this
put Boeing
themselves in charge of
certifying their
software right and I want to
play a
quick clip here from Obama as
he was I
think well it's it's not really
important exactly what he was
signing
it's what he says I want to say
make us
a special note to some of the
small
businesses that have been
represented
here because what we've seen is
that
when small and medium-sized
businesses
can can cut through the red
tape and
understand how to export
actually they
can compete pretty well and
that's an
area where we can make make
significant
progress obviously big
companies like
Xerox our Boeing we want to
keep on
growing them because small
businesses
are you know up and down the
supply
chain and our when when we sell
a a
bunch of airplanes a lot of
small
businesses and medium-sized
businesses
are benefiting from that as
well but I
am very enthusiastic about this
I think
Jim at least will confirm that
I'm happy
to go out and make sales huh I'm
expecting a gold watch
from Boeing at the end of my
presidency
because I know that I'm on the
on the
list of top salesmen at Boeing
and
indeed Boeing donated ten
million
dollars to the Obama
Presidential
Library in Chicago but who
cares people
dead doesn't matter thanks for
the gold
watch everybody it's a pretty
expensive
gold watch yeah he just said it
you
imagine if any other President
had said
that I want a gold watch I'm
the best
Boeing salesman I think Trump
says he's
the best Boeing salesman often
but he's
never asked for a gold watch
and and
people died because of the
administration's policies of
having is
just like the FDA having the
companies
themselves police themselves
what the
hell are we paying you to bring
jamokes
for yeah what's the point
yeah it's called collusion with
that I'd
like to thank you for your
courage say
in the morning to you the man
who put
the C in commercial D
platforming John C
in the morning to the trolls in
the
troll room no agenda stream
comm is
where you can always
participate in the
conversation that goes on there
and you
can listen to the stream it is
there's
always something interesting on
the
stream last night but what do
you have
Nick the rat last night I don't
think we
had Nick I think he's still in
Ireland
this morning before the show
started
Darren oh this thing there's
great music
there's pot safe music there's
talk to
walk then there's trolling
going on no
agenda stream comm also in the
morning -
Darren O'Neill there's his name
twice in
one show he brought us the
artwork for
episode 1145 1144 sort a title
of that
and that was a Thursday show
was climate
optimist and it was a you know
we went
for the cheap laughs homeless
hookers
was the artwork it was just good
keep laughs if especially was
done
artistically is always a winner
there
was something else we were
going to
mention about the artwork was
there
something else we're gonna say
well we
we're gonna talk about yes we
were gonna
say something do you remember
what I
don't remember what it was we
talked
about these things after the
show and
the post-mortem and then we
never talked
about him uh let me take a look
at the
list here the stuff that's
going out
there's the jock strap that was
kind of
funny oh yeah we did like the
we did the
other day brother Mike Riley
yeah I was
the deflated Mike Reilly piece
scissored
and the problem with that it
was it was
just didn't have enough other
elements
it's a good piece no no didn't
have any
pretty I don't think we had
anything
specific to say okay no I just
had a
note here remember to talk
about it and
I guess I didn't fill out all
right we
do have some we have a
top-heavy day
today we didn't get a lot of
donations
but they all came in at the top
so
you'll see it in the second
half we only
have 35 people that donated out
of Nate
2018 20,000 20,000 thanks no
but we had
some big ones like Lisa Donner
he does a
thousand dollars and she says
you guys
are the best top of the heap in
my book
wish I could listen more often
play me
something funny and keep it
keep up the
great work you guys Rock
now Lisa so this isn't mean
seems to
daming he never says that uh
and I'll tell you why I'm first
of all I
know who this is because I only
met her
just yesterday would you meet
her
where'd you meet her I met her
online oh
well that's not yes yes because
she is
the exec I think hmm see the
executive
managing editor she is the the
number
two head honcho at liberty
nation Oh
as she tweet
she said this was a poll that
we took so
we didn't we didn't create it
like you
know PC Magazine would create
those
bullcrap polls you know it was
it was
something where they just make
it up
it's 99% of all publications
I've told
it said this before the editors
sit
around usually at lunch to get a
luncheon and they discuss who
should be
on the top ran right exactly
and there's
always one Joker and put that
goys wants
to put some joke person in
there yeah of
course of course I did it
that's what
you do
so she said no this was a poll
and and
she's a big fan that Lisa K
Donner and
and she said I voted number one
and I
guess her photo editor she
voted us as
number what the people of
Liberty nation
listen to us there you go
that's that's
that's what's going on it's it's
unnecessary but well for the
show it's
very necessary miss Lisa Donna
thank you
very much I'd like to dame her
but I
don't know um so we just wait
and see if
she comes back with you may
have some
she wants but some suggestions
but black
knighting because she no no no
no no it
wouldn't be a black knighting
but it's a
very very very nice show
support yes we
already got number three yeah
and she
does ask for something funny
keep up the
great work you guys Rock thank
you very
much I picked something funny
for you
also gonna give you some Karma
because you deserve it ABC is
one baby
it's racist one
ABC easy as one-two-three
racists as
could be we are now all right
everybody
and thank actually if you look
at the
their mission statement they
are not a
an alt right or necessarily
conservative
publication and they claimed
Rotarian libertarian correct
yeah kind
of you know there's so many
different
schools of libertarian who know
myself
used to call myself a
libertarian
especially in the early days it
stopped
because it fits in anywhere now
well
when people start saying to me
you're
probably a libertarian that's
what I was
like no no that's when I stop
they're
like no but just the way you
said that I
don't want to be whatever you
had on
your mind yeah said I'm nothing
I'm
technically because there's a
fourth
category in California gonna be
a you
can be a libertarian so you can
be
subscribing to any of these
Peace and
Freedom Party Republican
Democrat or
independent when you get a
ballot the
independence of their ballot
but there's
the the real category you want
to be an
unaffiliated yes and you so you
go into
the voting booth oh you're
unaffiliated
which ballot would you like yes
I'm unambiguous yeah and then
biggest
Michael Mugler comes in second
yeah he's
not a Fort Knox Tennessee you
got a note
from him 635 bucks yeah he said
a
check-in hmm and he says please
de deux
schmagges long-overdue donation
I'm
calling this the f-35 donations
$635 hmm
if the f-35 the fighter jet if
the red
book is still a thing I would
like it's
the kind of a show thing but
it's not
like for the you we don't
wouldn't
probably should have a wiki
page with
people just putting their own
predictions in yeah I would
like to add
the following July 2019 is a
reason
lease of top gun to seeing that
Tom
Cruise's
gone from being an American
action hero
to that of a global one
I predict the following I can
cruise
yeah and I'm gonna encourage
people to
put send their predictions in
with large
donations Tom Cruise will be
the poster
child for global sales for the
f-35 why
else do we need another Top Gun
movie I
can think of no other global
actor
better position to generate
worldwide
sales huh so I'm on board with
that
I like the positioning yeah I
like it I
like it a lot
my other request is of a
personal one I
was medically retired from the
army back
in 2013 last fall I received I
have 100%
permanent disability permanent
and total
disability rating from the VA I
was
keeping my fingers crossed for
50% in
light of this may I convert my
title to
the exalt Jesus sir by the way
okay so
Sir Michael yes or Michael
Mugler I've
been donated quite a bit until
lately I
want to convert my title to Sir
anthrax
failed vaccine tester so we
have to
assume yeah well that's what
you hear if
you get a full medical
discharge you
have to assume that I'm
considering than
the military shoots those guys
up with
everything that we have to
assume he was
a failed vaccine tester and
he's got
some Guttman he's got anthrax
army as I
start this new chapter in my
life I'm
glad to have you guys and this
show to
keep me grounded karma pleased
to
support my July court date with
Social
Security to receive disability
jungle
request fear is freedom jungle
I said
just a jingle fear is freedom
thanks
again for all the years of
deconstruction and helping me
deal with
my changes in personality and
loss of
short-term memory well Michael
holy crap
sir anthrax failed vaccine
tester thank
you so much
it's kind of like wow man I
know that
because we get lots of emails
from from
servicemen and women who say oh
yeah no
they shoot us up with vaccines
and then
you know they have to come back
two
months later and said they
couldn't find
the paperwork that they had
just shot up
and shot me up with some
vaccines have
to do them all over again when
you're in
the Armed Forces and unite in
these
United States of Gitmo nation
you are
often a guinea pig which is
really not a
good see not a good thing check
and make
sure he's not on the upgrade
list so
you're gonna have to put him on
manually
oh you mean that title change
list yeah
of course of course it was just
sort of
Mike wasn't as far as I know
yeah I
think so Mike muddler it was
may have
been something else but it's
fine he's
gonna be changed anyway I see
Isabel
Pearson 500 $55.55 ITM gents
this
donation is particularly
important as
according to my subscription it
will
take me over the all-important
amount so
just ahead of the London meetup
which
I'll be attending oh nice yeah
it's
gonna be at the Victorian pub
and over
there red Paddington this is
where we
had other meet oh yes we
decided to go
for for a sure thing so we
probably just
doomed there forever
yeah why not and Wesley's gonna
be
better than our denied we did a
Friday
or Saturday night it was packed
I've
actually tried PayPal
notwithstanding to
donate consistently as for as
long as I
can remember
never totting up this amount as
I felt
it was value for value and
having a
title wasn't so important my
regular
payments aren't linked to my
subscriber
amount but I'm going to make
this one
count
claiming a title again is so
appealing
since I was denied listening to
the show
for a few months whilst whilst
in
hospital she in the United
States now
she's British she gets a pass
on this
diss language yeah that's right
she's
gonna meet up yeah okay yeah
whilst in
hospital I think you should
saying why
it was the first hospital visit
since
you left University
thankfully making a good
recovery how
time flies is you to actually
disgust me
on show three one 704 a
humbling couple
of minutes
yes quarter dropping I remember
sure as
I pointed out that I'd listen
to you
since the first show you then
felt that
there were fewer female
supporters
however I was so proud that in
your own
words you stated that I had
been found
and identified the female
listener the
first female listener in fact
anyway
roll on Wednesday when I'll
meet Tina
and Adam Isabel and she's going
to be de
mesa belle Pearson uh Eric the
she'll
did put Lisa Don Iran as a dame
I just
feel that I don't know we'll
wait we'll
wait for her but ISA Bell is
going to be
a dame she had no specific name
so
perfect and look forward to
meeting you
in person on Wednesday
wow that's eleven years she's
been
listen she was in hospital and
out of
commission that's great it's
gonna be
great
I'm good meetup like you're
some farmer
here thank you very much you
said I'll
see you you've got Carla at the
roundtable later and in London
at the
meetup on Wednesday excellent
well maybe
Derek got a note or something as
possible from Lisa did what
does he have
her being a DJ namely some Dame
won't do
that yeah I trust that she
gives you
what's changed your tally you
can always
change it okay so we'll just do
Dame
Lisa Donna and day mr. Bell
Pearson okay
good
Justin beset and what Tata what
did wada
Tata wasa Wisconsin now
somebody sent us
a pronunciation gazetteer on
how to
pronounce all these funny names
mm-hmm which are all apparently
old
French yeah
was this name in there I don't
have I
meant to pretty sense stick it
up it
should be it should be I don't
I don't
recall what taught Tosa what's
atossa I
don't know well you will yeah
birthday
donation hello Joe
an atom from what Wauwatosa
Wauwatosa
last year my wife Tiffany feel
you know
when we first started doing
this show in
the first maybe the third
season mm-hmm
I got an office obviously you'd
really
do a wonderful job of
pronouncing
Wisconsin names cuz they're all
crazy
and now I'm condemned for being
the
worst at it
I don't think condemned is
right people
just want to help you last year
my wife
Tiffany fielder donated for her
birthday
June 8th and asked for some
health karma
the health karma was for her
brain
surgery to deal with trigeminal
neuralgia I think it's a way to
pronounce it if you happen to
recall
this is the disease that is
nicknamed
the suicide disease and causes
pain to
the face like a teaser yes I
remember
this you know I vaguely
remember it it
sounds I'll bet you she
remembered well
it sounds like guess what does
that
thing you get from when you had
chickenpox and later in life
you get
something else the scales no
what's it
called around you it's shingles
I knew
we'd get there well I'm very
happy he
continues well I'm very happy
to report
that yet again no agenda karma
works and
pain-free for a year and has
been
kicking acid recovery on top of
the
health karma there must have
been some
jobs karma too because she now
has a job
she loves so here's the happy
birthday
to my smoking-hot wife can you
play a
sharpton clip shape-shifting
Jew and a
goat scream another dose of
health karma
would be appreciated too thanks
for all
you guys do absolutely Justin
we could
not be happier this is this is
a very
good note and of course she's on
Tiffany's on the list so we'll
be
congratulating her later and I
even
pulled up a fresh Sharpton
Diddy to play
for
ultimately end up backfiring on
the
Republicans are they over
jumping the
runway here
shape-shifting Jews
good catch by someone what the
Sharpton
clip the show no no this is
that's an
old one that's an oldie but an
old one
yeah I pulled it from the
archives I
don't remember it well anyway
that's it
we don't have any associate
executive
producers for show a level four
dots
that's something that hasn't
happened
often no usually the other way
around
that's very odd well the way we
run this
show is we like to thank as
many people
as possible for their support
of the
program is how the value for
value
system where some people get
value out
of hearing their name and
having their
note read most get the value
out of what
they get from the program and
then
telling us about it people want
jobs
karma health karma it's all
pieces of
the network that you came up
with we
didn't and we we always like to
thank in
fact very much like Hollywood
our
executive producers and
associate
executive producers up front
it's odd
though that we didn't have any
associates so it's $300 and
above for
executive 200 above for
associate
executive and we of course thank
everyone over $50 in our second
segment
I was thinking of something an
idea John
just an idea since we you know
we're not
anti some of the taking some of
the
mainstream ideas such as you
know
executive producer it's exactly
executive producers put money
into the
project that's exactly what
they do so
it's it's a valid it's a
valuable title
and it works anywhere titles are
accepted I have not been able
to come up
with a name for the studio yet
and I and
every show I'll get notes after
the show
I really miss you saying you
know in the
five by nine clue do well I
can't say
that because I'm not in the
clue do
anymore
I was thinking if we we just
follow
along with some of the
mainstream things
that we do like to emulate such
as
knighthoods you know that's very
mainstream has been around for
a couple
thousand years Oh before you go
on how
about putting a little sign
outside the
doors and calling it
Studios well you're you you
almost have
what I was thinking
studio naming rights we've got
the Nokia
Theatre we've got now
everything has a
name is a great idea and this
by the way
did wasn't a network TV idea
this came
from the one of the first
places that
this evolved from was the San
Francisco
Giants Candlestick Park which
was you
know his name I forgot what the
first
day was now but they became
monster
field and all these different
things it
went from like hey I'll give
you fifty
thousand dollars if you call
your
stadium okay we'll take it and
then they
realized that wait a minute and
so they
upped it a half a million now I
think
it's millions of dollars for
naming
rights and I'm not quite sure
what the
parameters are but I would love
to see
like your auction the the
Nussbaum
Studio it could be anything
like that
it's something we need to work
on but I
just came to me it's more like
I want to
be able to call the studio
something but
why don't we just do naming
rights and
they could be limited they
could be
naming rights for one show one
week one
month I don't know it's just
something
to think about
let's Mull it over in the next
meeting
okay is the meeting over that's
how our
meetings go yeah pretty much
yeah I
would like to read a note
before it
continue sure this is the bed
one of our
nightstand benighted today sir
white
noise mm-hmm
Todd Moore's note I just
thought it was
an interesting note I came
through and I
said oh that's kind of funny
because one of those insightful
notes
from a guy who doesn't doesn't
care that
he likes to reveal that he
started at
the CIA yeah his the is no
because my
career started at the CIA while
in
college as a dude named Ben I
eventually
worked for director John Joyce
reduce
write over the news and George
Tenet
we know him so he saw which way
my
experience so this goes back a
while
yeah it does right one time my
boss told
me to swap out the green phone
at an
office located in the basement
of
headquarters yeah let me just
pull up if
if my boss told me go swap out
the green
phone in the basement I'd be
thinking
they were gonna whack me
I wouldn't go I wouldn't want
to go down
he's gonna get promoted casino
yeah yeah
it sounds like it sounds like it
the Mafia cut mafia hit one
time I boss
told me to swap out the green
phone in
an office located in the
basement of
headquarters this is an odd
request
because of all the officers I
supported
we're at the top floors of HQ
after now
I'm assuming this is Langley
after
navigating my way through a
maze of
narrow hallways I finally
arrived at the
office and walked in it was a
small this
X Lee is a movie scene it was a
small
dark room that had outdated
furniture
from the 50s
everything was old including
the man
behind the desk who was smoking
a
fucking cigar like a boss
that's great
headquarters has a smoke-free
facility
but this dude was just puffing
away
while his secretary who was
just as old
was typing something out of her
ancient
typewriter
I felt like I teleported back
in time
the old man in what was
probably an
effort to brag about his former
glory
asked quote do you see those
boxes he
pointed over two boxes with
labels JFK
iran-contra and Roswell Roswell
you get so many security
briefings
drilled into your head about
the need to
know policy that even though I
wanted to
know I didn't need to know so I
didn't
ask any questions
I have no idea who he was but
it was my
most bizarre experience there I
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who hit people in the mouth
we've gone quite a while here
and I
don't believe we played a clip
well we
have we've played a few clips
but we've
we have been chatting a bit yes
I have a
hold on hold on hold on hold on
when we
do this I have to say your
aircraft and
then you say my our aircraft so
that I
know that you have control sits
your
aircraft okay it's my aircraft
you're
good to go
here's an old Bob Hope movie
clip from
probably think this from the
40s maybe
the fifties but it just shows
you that
things do not change the way
people like
to imagine that they do you
live here
yes well maybe you know what a
zombie is
when a person dies and this
Barrett
seems a certain voodoo priest
who will
have the power to bring him
back to life
that's worse than horrible
because a
zombie has no will of his own
you see
them sometimes walking around
blindly
with dead eyes following orders
not
knowing what they do not caring
do you
mean like Democrats I've seen
this one
yeah I guess the bashing has
been going
on for a while what year was
that that
uh I don't know it's just
probably I'm
guessing the place for it
there's the
classic it's a classic very
nice classic
hey I think I'm right
about the the 2024 moonshot it
seems
like that's bullcrap like it's
not gonna
happen
plus Trump's already put the
kibosh on
it hasn't he a saying like
let's not
waste any time on the moon to
the Mars
to Mars we must go oh please so
here's
here's how it happens someone
goes mr.
president you know about the
about the
moon thing why don't you say
Mars pushed
it out a little bit that'd be
better for
us you know it could be you
know mr.
president I have a couple clips
here
free mr. president this is Don
Petite
former NASA astronaut - he has
something
to say I go to the moon in a
nanosecond
the problem is we don't have the
technology to do that anymore
we used to
but we destroyed that
technology and
it's a painful process to build
it back
again yeah mr. president I
don't think
we should probably talk about
something
else but the moon because I
don't think
we can do it here's gene Krantz
the
Apollo 11 NASA flight director
I haven't
seen anything that indicates a
kilometer
edata is even an existence and
as I said
even if we have it we don't
have the
machines to play it back but
you're you
your own research is shown the
telemetry
data is missing that's right
the data is
missing we can t we don't even
have a
machine to play it but mr.
president
here's something from David
Williams dr.
Williams is the archivist also
known as
hoarder at NASA Goddard Space
Center as
surely he would know where all
the tapes
and the telemetry is film
you're making
now what is it I just have a
net I mean
do you have you have a name for
it yet
or you okay did we go did we go
okay
okay
doesn't have anything so right
as an ad
riots and doesn't write right
we've been
unable to track it down I mean
we don't
know where this this telemetry
data
ended up and we don't know the
what what
path it may have taken so
unfortunately
I'm afraid I can't really give
you much
of a clue as to as to where
this data
ended up in whether we still
exists or
not yeah it's on the cutting
room floor
with the rest of all the movie
theater
crap
ye of little faith yeah I very
little
faith very little faith what I
do see is
I see B's Oh showing his his
landing
module and he shows it in a
beautiful
CGI animated thing that looks
pretty
real so at least our getting
that part
right well they did they do
have a
fallback thing they're gonna do
to get
your attention
oh and that's this clip that
says trips
to the space station yeah I
want to go
into space NASA said today it's
gonna
open the International Space
Station to
tourists might happen is but it
won't be
cheap
private companies Boeing and
SpaceX are
expected to charge get this up
to 58
million dollars and that's
roundtrip
guess how much room and board
is thirty
five thousand dollars a night
yeah and you have to be there
for 30
days oh cool
sounds boring it it sounds
really cool
I'd love to blast off and sit
up there
for a bit but after a couple
days we're
like all right adios mofo as
I'm tired
of pooping in the bag I'm go
home I want
to go home and you know they
have to do
psychological things with these
the guys
who are the astronauts and the
women
mm-hmm they're all tested to
death and
gone through you know Sentra
you know
there's this thing that spins
them
around and and they take
psychological
testing because not everyone has
equipped to be up there because
it is
boring and you gotta you're
stuck and
you got a poop in a thing
that's sucks
it out he is I'm some vacuum
device and
there's spit floating around
inside me
there's a lot of things that
you have to
deal with and it's not for the
general
public it's not like going to
Disneyland
no no but some jerks will go up
there
you can count on there's more
than a few
billionaires where 50 billion
bucks
maybe plus expenses
I think your initial comment is
correct
it's it's a great distraction
since
there will be no moon landing
in 2024
telling you right now is not
gonna
happen I'm willing to do the
show until
2024 just to prove it yeah yes
stubborn
guy just to celebrate
hey there's one story that kind
of
annoyed me because I went to
ABC CBS
probably went all over the
place there's
a seat six week cycle event yes
that
took place in New York New York
City yes
mm-hmm
and only CBS the CIA
Broadcasting System
was the only ones that reported
it and
it was somewhat annoying cuz
it's a
really good event but it
follows the
same old pattern where the FBI
found
some guy took him for about a
year to
get this guy to radicalize the
guy even
though they should just put him
on
YouTube apparently would a
radicalized
himself in just a few videos
mm-hmm but
besides that it took him about
a year to
get the guy to do all the
things they
needed to do and as soon as he
finally
they finally arrested him for
buying a
gun from another agent and this
is
the story never really got a
lot of
attention eyes I gave me a lot
of it I
liked it go
horses tell CBS News the FBI
keyed in on
asha qual alam based on
suspicious
social media activity and
reached out to
him in august 2018 over ten
months of
clandestine meetings with an
undercover
officer alam praise al Qaeda
and Isis
wait a minute so there were
suspicious
social media activity instead
of going
over to this guy and saying hey
bro
could you stop the suspicious
behavior
because you're looking a lot
like Isis
you know and just confronting
him no no
no no that would be policing
you don't
want to do that you want to
make it
worse yes over ten months of
clandestine
meetings with an undercover
officer alam
prays al qaeda and isis
according to
court papers alam said the
September
11th attacks were a complete
success and
it was the duty of Muslims to
make a new
leader the 22 year old
Bangladeshi
immigrant from Queens zeroed in
on
attacking New York City alam
said he
wanted to use suicide vests or
ar-15
rifles in an attack on Times
Square he
and the undercover agent went
on several
reconnaissance runs there alam
said a
successful attack would make
them
legends prosecutors say alarm
also
expressed interest in other New
York
City landmarks including
attacking the
Freedom Tower
with a rocket launcher Jerry
how is the
former head of New York State's
Department of Homeland Security
with
somebody like this you try and
keep them
under surveillance as long as
possible
to see if he's tied to a
network in a
sting operation yesterday Alam
purchased
two Glock handguns with the
serial
number scratched off from other
undercover officers he was then
quickly
arrested a judge ordered Ilan
house
saying he posed the danger and
he wasn't
just talking big David sources
tell us
the FBI believed he was
committed enough
to carry out an attack his
public
defenders have not yet
commented hold on
where's the rest of the story
about the
network that they uncovered
because they
kept this guy's strung along
for ten
months
there's no network is just the
design
said there was a network but
they said
that he literally said we'd
like to do
this so that we can find out if
there's
a network behind it but it took
him ten
months he said but they didn't
find one
no alone so we received
informations
years ago that every six weeks
or so and
such FBI likes to do one of
these or at
least go and arrest someone
it's like a
boy six weeks yet time so they
can keep
their resources their budgets
and be
relevant in the Counter
Terrorism game
because there's a lot of
different
players in government and they
need to
to keep their budgets and their
position
and that's why they do this I
was
reading a a similar one I was
reading a
similar affidavit the other day
which I
think also belongs in the cycle
but I
didn't I didn't put it in the
show notes
because it had this was a a
pedophile
Network they unraveled and they
do that
to you and they kept this one
guy going
with an undercover informant
and now
this oh no this is the doctor
pizza this
is the guy who wrote a talk
about a guy
who's a creep so but but if you
read the
transcript of him thinking he's
communicating with him the
mother the
mother of an 11 year old yeah
how stupid
is this guy on kink D or
whatever the
the social yes gotta be a kick
and and
so the the undercover informant
which is
in this case of an FBI agent
he's talking about oh yeah you
know my
daughter could probably handle
the tip I
mean if you're how sick are you
that
you're trying to that's it it's
actually
the first time in my life I
actually
almost felt physically sick
just reading
the FBI is doing that with
these people
to entrap them the guy yeah
it's just
sick in a lot of different ways
but
you've got to see a video of
this
character oh no I've seen
picture this
guy no pictures don't do him
justice you
have to see a video of him he
is like he
is just like a stereotype
weirdo yeah
and he's like a check
viewer yeah geez well so yeah
anyway
back way back to the other
thing I had
to say something about that
clip yeah so
this guy wants to do suicide
bombings he
doesn't give a shit about the
future I
mean he's obviously just a
loser that's
easily cajoled into doing this
you know
blowing up New York if he could
yeah so
why does he need to buy Glocks
that have
the serial number removed what
excellent
point
what difference does that make
yeah he's
gonna if he's gonna go down in
flames
yeah I totally agree so that
they put
that little bit in there I
think it was
just thrown in to be like oh
that's how
bad he's biting it also throws
the gun
argument sir numbers been
erased from
the guns yeah there's been a
lot of
anti-gay subtle and weird
anti-gun stuff
going on well such as discuss
this any
further but I mean I've noticed
it all
right I have a couple green new
deal
clips that are worthwhile okay
the first
is a noose a new airline a new
Swedish
airline called bra BR a br a
yeah yeah
yeah I know yeah you can make
the jokes
don't worry the clip includes
the joke -
so it's bra and bra has a new
class that
you can fly environment class
and I
think though this clip is from a
youtuber who is an influencer
and he has
the Harry and David endorsement
stuff so
I'm pretty sure they invite a
lot of
influencers to take one of
these flights
on bra so hopefully they would
talk
about it and so this kid and I
think
he's Swedish he's doing his
little
YouTube bit but just listen to
what he's
selling and what bra indirectly
is
selling and and how people are
falling
for this today their line
applying wrong it also happens
to be the
world's most eco conscious
airline we
love a sustainable bra so today
I booked
a class I've never flown before
Iceland
economy being an economy
business class
and first off but today I'm
flying
environment class and I know
you're
thinking the hell is that well
recently
the Swedish airline brawl
launched a
class called environment class
where you
get to fly on biofuel for about
$30
extra so the ticket to
Stockholm is
already only about fifty
dollars for
adults and then you add another
$30 and
you're flying on a fleet
climate compensated for 80
percent of
the cost of the ticket you add
on from
50 euros you add on 30 euros
you're you
are convinced that you are now
fully
what do you call it climate
compensated
climate compensated completely
eco-friendly they got to time
by sums
what this is a bullshit story
well hold
on we'll get to it you kind of
compensated sustainable and
biofuel
ticket not only that but the
flight is
served by a propeller planes
it's super
environmentally friendly I want
you to
know propeller plane-- a super
environmentally friendly is
listen brah
propeller planes use the same
engine
it's a jet engine is just as
power on
the outsides of the inside not
other
much environmentally friendly
so with
all those things combined this
is the
future of eco-friendly domestic
flying
and I'm so excited about it I
do have a
lot of anxiety
about the environmental impact
my flying
has just climbed my compensated
all my
trips but it feels really good
to be
flying an airline that actually
goes
even further so even though
brah has a
stupid name they're doing
something very
very well and I think it's nice
that
they get every passenger the
option to
add the environment class to
their
ticket because it makes people
put their
money where their mouth is if
you care
about the environment but you
still want
the efficiency of flying gotta
pay up so
this is great because he's
buying into
it and I think a lot of young
people
will buy into this idea that oh
if I can
pay my way out of it which is
what we're
being taught with the Paris
Accord and
everything you can pay your way
out of
this problem what you're doing
is you
are not solving anything you are
literally purchasing a credit
the right
for this company this bra
company that
you pollute to the degree that
you fly
so and I don't I think you're
probably
overpaying for that but okay so
your
ticket was 50 you're paying 30
to give
them a credit that allows them
to
pollute so you're not stopping
pollution
you're giving them a credit
this credit
is not something they pay for
in full it
is tradable this credit you are
giving
them extra money they can trade
this
like give them like a share of
stock or
a foreign currency that they
can then
use in other ways you're being
ripped
off and you're believing that
you're
solving something and it's sad
yes I thought you said I
thought you
wanted to say something I guess
not
well I was just looking at the
various
fuels again I'm just trying to
refill
your eyes myself with fuels at
these
turboprops which it's jet 1a
the same
feels with it
well there's parently some
turboprops
run off of ab gasps - turbo
well ok
second clip there's a couple of
things
yeah that I just stood out to
me it's
very weird the first time I
flew on any
of the Nordica air carriers
which was
Icelandic uh I noticed that
they had two
classes of service had business
and then
they had the economy and then I
think
I've flown on thin air and they
say you
have the same kind of situation
they do
not have first classes now
these no more
ease and I asked about this
they said we
as a culture we do not believe
there is
such a thing as a first class
we are not
a class of society and in fact
the
squeeze above all our
egalitarian z'
which is one of the reasons
they're
having so much trouble with
their
migrants we're I believe that
as a Galit
Aryans everyone's equal and you
know so
that's why they do all stories
about you
should read every one if you go
to sweet
and you should definitely read
one of
the sociology books are uh you
know
cultural anthropology books
about sweet
so you have a feeling for what
it's like
and they don't they Dave just
like the
idea is that the boss gets the
coffee
for the secretary more often
than not
and that's clear when I heard
this the
disc operation has the first
class
that's what he said yeah take
it this is
bullcrap environmental class he
didn't
say it had a first one he said
there was
a first class no he said he's
flown the
first class oh ok so he was at
this one
so getting up it jumped out at
me that's
all right
so there's a an outfit that is
promoting
it's all a part of the same
former
Bernie bro people is promoting
the green
new deal and this outfit is
called new
consensus and they seem to be in
business only to promote the
green new
deal so this is an ally
of alexandria Ocasio Cortez and
whoever
else sponsored the resolution
which did
not get passed but she was
interviewed
recently and I just thought
that her
numbers were interesting you
know we
we've heard the Alexandra
Ocasio Cortez
say that this is our world war
two
within 12 years is not gonna
matter
she's walked that back saying
you have
to be stupid does not
understand that
was a joke or whatever it was
so here is
the the kids here is Rihanna
gun right
and she is the policy director
of new
consensus SSRS poll indicates
that 82
percent of Democrats say that
aggressive
action on climate change is
necessary
how do you get this I mean
there's so
many things if you talk to
voters out
there there's so many things
they're
concerned about right now
health care
and gun violence and
immigration and and
and the economy climate change
is
obviously up there and it's
it's it's
often number one two three or
four but
how do you make the argument
that it
needs a separate discussion why
why not
health care in the issues that
you just
brought up climate change is
one of the
main drivers of our public
health so the
difference between say 1.5
degrees of
warming which is the least that
folks
think that we can get to -
you're
talking about a hundred and
fifty
million deaths that's 25
Holocaust right
so how is that not a health
issue how is
that not about health care baby
I love
it 25 Holocaust 400,000
Hiroshima bombs
it's crazy right you're talking
about
immigration climate change is
going to
bring hundreds and millions of
climate
migrants of climate refugees
both from
outside the US and inside the
US as you
see people move so even the
issues that
you outline all of them are
affected by
climate change and how you
decide to
deal with climate
how you decide to deal with all
of these
other issues 25 Holocaust John
we have a
new peg on the board 25
holocausts
that's what it's going to be
let's see
if this mean gets anything that
goes
anywhere right as she would say
right
right now let's go to some
serious news
because we've obviously been
playing a
YouTube clip this was a CNN
clip now
let's go to NPR NPR is very
serious and
they always like to bring in
people who
are know a lot about climate
they know a
lot about science and in this
case let's
talk about climate and well
really the
question is is climate
affecting mental
health you got to listen
closely to this
the kicker's at the end but
here is NPR
climate change is having a big
impact on
human health and mental health
specifically that's the bottom
line of a
new report from 27 European
academies of
science but exactly how
something as big
as the climate crisis affects
mental
health is a question that Helen
Barry
wrestles with every day she's a
psychiatric epidemiologist and a
professor of climate change and
mental
health at the University of
Sydney in
Australia professor it seems
almost
intuitive that climate change
could
affect our mental health but is
there
actual evidence that that's
true the
short answer is yes of course
and the
long answer is no it's
incredibly
difficult to do this kind of
work
partly because climate systems
themselves are extremely
complex and
partly because mental health is
also
extremely complex and bringing
those
together makes a very huge and
difficult
puzzle but I think it's really
important
to apply some common sense here
which is
what you implied in your
question and
also to understand how we can
go about
approaching this problem so we
can
eventually get the scientific
answers
that we want won't did you just
understand what she actually
said there
yeah she says that there we
gotta
approach this too so we get the
answers
that we want yes she's a
scientist yeah
well that's what the client
that's a
whole climate model the whole
climate
change arguments based on these
do
and everybody knows it's their
dubious
computer models and you keep
tweaking
them till you get the answers
that you
want this one hunted here it
important
to apply some common sense here
which is
what you implied in your
question and
also to understand how we can
go about
approaching this problem so we
can
eventually get the scientific
answers
that we want oh my god because
she first
she says yeah of course of
course it
affects your mental health now
we got to
back it into something so we
can prove
it with the answers we want
2019 hello
97% of all rumors 97% of
everybody in
the world is on board with this
it's
it's kind of frightening
well jay Inslee is on board
he's the guy
he's the single issue Democrat
who's not
even on my list of the
contenders memo
this is just a phony hmm but
he's the
governor of Washington State
and his
whole thing he's a one-issue
candidate
and his issue is that we're all
gonna
die tomorrow if it's if we
don't do
something I climb it change and
that's
all he cares about period and
now he's
worked because the Democratic
National
Committee is not gonna do a
special
debate on climate change and so
they
apparently thought this guy's
such a
lunatic that they said if you
even do a
debate on climate change
outside the DM
NC parameters you're banned
Washington
governor in 2020 presidential
hopeful
jay Inslee says the Democratic
National
Committee is refusing to
schedule a
candidate debate on the climate
crisis
insulae said Thursday he was
told by the
DNC that if he participates in
any non
DNC affiliated debate on the
climate he
would be disinvited to future
debates
held by the DNC
instantly called the move a
deeply
disappointing attempt to
blacklist
candidates he said in a
statement quote
the DNC is silencing the voices
of
democratic activists many of our
progressive partner
organizations and
nearly half the Democratic
presidential
field who want to debate the
existential
crisis of our time
they said well that's
interesting so who
is actually stopping this
debate the the
DNC the punches whoever's
running is
there's a don't forget the have
a little
committee and they said no we
can't do
this week they're they're
orchestrating
everything and they see this is
like
some sort of a sideshow that's
gonna be
mocked by the Republicans have
been the
independents out there and they
know
what why they can't do it this
guy's too
dumb didn't to see it because
he's
seriously things that this is a
the
topic of the day a winning
issue have
you have you been following it
was what
we had Iowa this weekend I guess
everyone we have we have the
first
debate the demo for the
Democratic
primary which is how the
Democrat Party
will choose their a candidate
to run
against presumably Trump make
sense yeah
so the debates start end of
this month I
think 24 through 27 some at the
end of
the month so people were
ramping up
getting ready to face two days
two days
of debates I guess since the
weekend
where everyone was there is
that this is
some kind of thing in Iowa some
Democratic who house lock and
lock and
dingdong that everyone is there
for the
Iowa caucuses is it private
primaries
which is next year it's there
just a
brown-nose the public so when
does that
actually happen when did the
when of the
actual primaries take place is
that next
year's not even this year next
year geez
so there's plenty of time for
Stacey
Abrams to still get in yes you
had your
your prediction yeah yeah good
to go for
at least I'd say a month and
even though
there's a year to go item
that's your
prediction not mine well I
believe that
the first debates are important
for one
other reason which is to get
this comedy
it's for comedy some funny
stuff but
it's gonna be kind of stayed
this can be
stayed its that'll be funny for
us and
we'd like that it's going to
bring
zip the losers in the winners
is gonna
make the picture a little more
clear and
it should trigger Hillary
that's jumping
in because she's gonna say then
well
look at these losers that are
suck
they're not gonna beat Trump I
already
beat him once let's let put me
back in I
can just see Bill sitting at
home right
now like holy crap man I really
miss I'd
really dodged a bullet once
again she
she offed her brother no no who
knows
with the sympathy votes gonna
do a very
few starting with David and Pat
pate or
Pat pa te hundred dollars more
pate you
never know
could be Pattaya Pattaya yes
pate sir
John Knowles comes in second
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and then she went overboard and
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yes she had no agenda on her
butt yeah
it's great a running but yeah
running
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jr. William Jeff Caen sees nice
it's not
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their 69th wedding anniversary
Wow hold
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I've got something for them
photos cifra
it would have been their 69th
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was a chief
petty officer during the Korean
War my
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kids which
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cousins
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to his
wife Tiffany Fiedler but she
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the meetups first a report from
the
Oklahoma City meetup quick note
from
Derek B the meetup went very
well small
but quality group of folks we
had almost
no lack of conversation for
four hours
this is what's great about
these meetups
I have a report from the
Pittsburgh
meetup let me finish this
Cassidy is
going to send the pictures a
donation
and a note it probably won't be
for
tomorrow show but I'm leaving
the honors
to her as she wanted to do this
she and
Zack were also at the Austin
Meetup yes
I remember there were five
people who
emailed us that they were
coming who
didn't show but the weather
today was
just phenomenal
80 degrees no wind I rode my
motorcycle
to the Meetup a lot of people
might have
opted for other outdoor
activities and I
made the mistake of having on
the same
day as sooner ikonn which is
Oklahoma's
comic-con and we lost at least
one
person to that but everybody
Thank You
profusely for setting it up and
we're
very happy to be there I think
the ones
who didn't come really missed
out
hopefully they can make it next
time
thanks for making it possible
no thank
you Derek
and everyone who was there at
the
Oklahoma City Meetup and it's a
great
way to get together with people
who you
already have a connection with
inside
jokes and no triggering it's
perfect got
a note from the Pittsburgh meet
up with
some money
oh no Patterson Joel Eric sir
Ryan with
5510 Chris and Jen happy
birthday to
someone him I think what they
did a
collection at the Meetup yeah
it's first
under seen that that's
fantastic thank
you so it was it check we've
included in
there the
and I guess there's a birthday
call but
this that note is very these to
be a
little more detailed so in the
future
people are gonna send the stuff
and be a
little more because we could
probably
put I guess it would be Chris
on to the
list for birthdays but I don't
have any
detail so I can't do it okay so
more
details when you send in the
reports
thank you and I will be doing
the
details the reporting for the
June 12th
London meetup that will be on
Wednesday
Tina the keeper and I flying in
early on
Wednesday morning six o'clock
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and once we're back from this
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which is gonna be very short
they not be
working during the honeymoon
yeah
10th it wasn't my intent but I
guess we
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London
good news bad news can always
use good
news well I think this
qualifies as both
scooters in Nashville back now
with a
growing trend of travel and the
growing
danger it may bring electric
scooters
speeding down roads and
sidewalks and at
least 11 deaths reported since
the
beginning of last year tonight
the mayor
who's had enough
and what he's demanding here's
abc's
marsha gonzalez tonight leaders
in yet
another American city
threatening to ban
electric scooters concerned
about the
danger to riders and pedestrians
they're everywhere they block
sidewalks
the mayor of Nashville says
there are
now four thousand scooters in
his city
saying he wants them off the
streets if
the seven scooter companies
operating
there don't address safety
concerns I'd
love to see them fit into
Nashville but
the way it is operating in
Nashville
right now we just have too much
risk
associated with it this video
showing
the risks riders are taking
this man in
Nashville on a scooter with a
child on
his back and just last month a
26 year
old man died there hit by a
vehicle
while riding a scooter brady
gong keys
family starting a petition to
outlaw
them so he quote is the last
victim of
what they call an epidemic
across the
country The Associated Press
reports
there have been at least 11
electric
scooter deaths since the
beginning of
last year and Consumer Reports
tallying
1500 scooter related accidents
from just
47 cities since late 2017 so
where's the
good news where's the bad news
those
good news for the public that
some mayor
actually has a backbone it was
all
scooters now now the bad news
is for
these stupid scooter companies
all built
into one clip I don't know if
he did I
know if we talked about on the
show but
one of our producers sent a
note in he
was at a conference I think was
the ad a
American Disability Act type
conference
with lawyers and they're all
going after
the scooter companies for the
blind
because these things are left
on the
sidewalks and that's very
difficult for
and those experiencing
sightlessness
trying to say it the right way
to
navigate around them yeah good
point
yeah it's especially with with
the with
the bikes the scooters is one
thing but
the bikes and the you walk by
you and
they get caught on them they
trip over
them they fall it's it's it's a
it's a
nightmare
and austin i guess we you know
they
postponed all of the homeless
votes for
the you know because you know
the pan
the overturning the panhandling
ordinances they chickened out
on that so
they they push that vote off
which would
effectively make it legal to
Panhandle
in any manner next to a school
a bank a
bus stop any time a day but
they have
allowed these scooters to end
bikes -
well I know but the bikes with
the
scooters to be on sidewalks to
be driven
on sidewalks we have to my very
large
School for the Deaf in Austin
very
famous think about how
dangerous that is
when you cannot hear anything
coming up
behind you
you can barely hear these
things anyway
so I think we got roads for a
reason Who
am I
I have a clip blitz if you want
it well
let's do it after this yes I'm
going to
break the wheel if you're a fan
of Game
of Thrones you're familiar with
the
direwolf's the popularity of the
creature in the fantasy world
creating
consequences in the real world
I'm
Jerome Flynn for PETA you might
also
know me as bran from Game of
Thrones
more and more Huskies are being
bred and
bought because of their
resemblance to
dire wolves that Sergent
breeding has
also led to a surge in
abandonments
Vlada Huskies and husky mixes
have been
coming in animal shelters in
both
Monterey and Santa Cruz
counties are
reporting a massive increase in
the
number of Huskies the Santa
Cruz County
Animal Shelter says right now
they have
six Huskies and that's the most
they've
ever had and it's happening all
over the
state with very similar stories
take the
coda here for example she's a
year old
people often get these dogs as
puppies
because they're so beautiful
but they
don't really understand the
maintenance
that goes into taking care of
these dogs
as they get older this isn't
the first
time we've seen pop culture
impact
shelters but why was one Paris
Hilton
had its first Chihuahua 101
Dalmatians
came out it seemed like they
were
allotted
but now it's happening to
Huskies and
arise in surrenders means more
euthanization oh and this is
very
typical of our culture man such
a cool
dog let's get one then the dog
turns out
to be a pooping machine eating
you out
of house and home like yeah
let's get
rid of this dog there's more in
Texas
the movies have gone to the
dogs is the
world's first ever dog friendly
movie
theater started canine City can
you
believe this has a unique place
for
people and pooches best friend
Bear is
his partner of course my heart
is
overwhelmed with joy because I
did this
to make me happy yes you're
gonna have
no dates broke and I was making
other
people happy everybody's a week
for 15
bucks and five for Sparky you
can see a
flick and enjoy a bottomless
glass of
wine whining dogs why bring
your dog why
not
movies vary from modern hits to
classics
maybe even a dogs journey from
time to
time he loves just coming here
cuz he
gets to play with all the other
dogs to
the candy counters even stopped
with
doggie treats our dogs no one's
ever
been busted for smooching in
the dark
but some nuzzling goes on for
the most
part the pups sit stay and
watch and
here's a doggone good idea local
shelters often on hand with
pets for
adoption can't find a charge
five bucks
extra for the dog and they
don't even do
that for kids when you bring
kids into
theater which I'm also against
babies
well but you hate dogs so that
means I
do not hate dogs
I'd hate dog owners who treat
them like
humans like children like human
being
everybody hates that well
that's all
that's my whole point I don't
hate dogs
you've given me this rap which
is unfair
now I'm getting for some ways
you wear
it it's it's it's really at one
point I
said I'm tired of eating
chicken breast
and now somehow in my own house
oh you
don't like chicken I don't like
chicken
oh I can cook some pretty
decent chicken
dishes but I'm sick of the
chicken oh
well I've got to say I just I
was sick
of chicken chicken it's a dumb
meat it's
dumb meat please please explain
how is
it a dumb meat well for one
thing it's
made from chickens okay let me
come on
can't we find something better
to eat
than these stupid birds oryx
baby boy or
maybe just try some dogs dog
meat tasty
the Chinese can't be totally
stupid well
if Filipinos also eat dog meat
I think
I've had dog meat I don't I
mean it
can't say for sure but I
believe I have
and it's fine I mean I think
horse meats
a little better I like horse
meat I'm
off with a horse meat what do
you have
my horse to meat store you have
until my
horse meat story dies you know
I'd love
to hear your horse meat story
so i'm in
slovenia hanging out the
publishers
their publishers the Playboy
and all the
most of the magazine's they
were gonna
pick up PC Magazine and it was a
Slovenian version and there I
got a
great tour of the country and
there's
something I've noticed in fact
Eric the
shill went to Finland and he I
said when
when you're feeling get some of
this
drain deer meat it's absolutely
fantastic Lisa's never saw any
and I
realized that many European
countries
that he kind of offbeat stuff
they never
admit it they won't let you see
it what
reindeer or dog you know you
can go to
go to Scandinavian countries or
Nordic
countries and you find that
you'll see
you whore of reindeer meat all
over them
sure but these guys will never
take you
to a place that serves it one
time I
went to Finland sir Luke took
me to a
restaurant where we had
reindeer meat in
fact they brought out the
picture of the
damn beast before they killed
him and
his name and everything told
you think
oh dynamite
dynamo it was very slutty meat
but it's
died some of the most beautiful
meat
I've ever tasted though it was
yeah it
was good I liked it a lot yeah
it's very
good and it goes cool curiously
I was up
at some restaurant way north
and Finland
and this woman is French woman
who
served a lot reindeer steaks
she had a
huge collection of behringer
Private
Reserve Cabernet which he
insisted that
we have with the reindeer and
that match
was unbelievable hmm so anyway
so so so
I miss lavinia and these guys
reticent
lycée do you ever eat horse
meat
I said yeah I've had horse meat
tacos
and Tijuana they're fantastic I
like
horse meat was that at the
donkey show
no I never went to the donkey
show
mm-hmm and so it was called the
blue
something friend named in the
place it
may be just a myth
anyways so white so this is all
well
there's a restaurant here that
specializes in it maybe so we
don't
really eat much just yeah you
know
they're gonna do downplaying it
but if I
want to go and have some horse
meets
just to see what it was like
does they
beagley
they'd relent and go so we go
to this
place and they order this then
advise me
to order this sirloin steak
horse which I never had just a
big horse
steak huh the thing is the size
of the
plate the worst part was that
this
particular cut was dense I had
kind of a
dense quality light it was
tasty yeah
but it had a dense liver like
quality
and so I'm trying to plow
through this
thing with these guys
never eat horsemeat mm-hmm and
so I'm
trying to get through this
steak and I'm
getting about a third of the
way through
and I'm stuffed I can't take it
I look around these three guys
three of
them they plowed through this
giant
steak like just no tomorrow and
say to
me are you gonna eat that
glommit so they love the horse
meat in
Slovenia no matter what they
tell you
anyway do you have a clip blitz
of seven
clubs all under 30 seconds
Democrat
weirdness regarding taxes
Democratic
chair of the House Ways and
Means
Committee is coming under fire
from his
own party after he told
Bloomberg News
he has no plans to use recently
passed
New York state law to acquire
president
Trump's tax records Congress
member
Richard Neal says he's worried
the
request would quote bolster
Trump
administration arguments that
Congress
is on a political fishing
expedition tax
returns to Treasury Secretary
Stephen
minuchin has defied
congressional
request to turn over Trump's
tax records
and Trump remains the only
President or
major presidential candidate in
modern
US history to refuse to make
his tax
returns public
Nadler 'z plan plus weird
Pelosi quote
Democratic House Judiciary
charile
Nadler is preparing to subpoena
special
counsel robert muller within
the next
two weeks
that's according to Politico
which also
reports Nadler privately pushing
Democratic leaders to open a
formal
impeachment inquiry against the
president during a closed-door
meeting
Tuesday House Speaker Nancy
Pelosi
reportedly pushed back saying
Trump
should be quote in prison but
not in
Paige weird Sudan news
important the
African Union has suspended
Sudan's
membership after soldiers with
the
ruling transitional military
council
opened fire and sit-in
protesters Monday
killing at least a hundred
eight of them
and wounding more than 500
others in a
statement the a you said Sudan
would
remain suspended until a
civilian-led
transitional authority is
established
Sudan's military took power in
April
after a month-long popular
uprising that
led to the overthrow of the
longtime
authoritarian President Omar
al-bashir
YouTube YouTube YouTube current
bands
YouTube announced today that it
will
remove thousands of videos and
channels
with white supremacist and
neo-nazi
content from its site the video
streaming company will also bar
any
videos denying well documented
myths
like the Holocaust ever
happened the
move comes amid growing
criticism that
online services allow and
sometimes fuel
hate speech I think you said
you turd
ships banned it's about to get
more
difficult to travel to Cuba
today the
Trump administration banned
cruise ships
departing the u.s. from
stopping there
in order to punish Cuba for
supporting
the Venezuelan government
commercial
airline flights are not yet
effective
last clip home food delivery
twist so
the online delivery wars have a
new
battlefield you might say your
refrigerator Walmart said today
it's
testing a new service delivery
workers
will actually put groceries in
your
refrigerator when you're not
home
they'll wear a camera so you
can keep an
eye on them apparently it uses
smart
technology to let you guys we
haven't
done like that in a while is
good I like
that
I'm standing is gonna have home
food
delivery where the guy plows
into your
house although if you think
about it in
old movies you see this used to
be
common back in the 20s and 30s
I guess
there was trust trust there was
trust
there was trust well there's a
couple
things we we haven't discussed
that I do
have a clip for number one
would be the
tariffs do not go into effect
for Mexico
on Monday apparently we have a
deal and
here is the Spanish
interpretation of
the key point as done by the
the Spanish
official who did the
announcement in
English and a key finding of
the malla
report ukrainians fail of
course that's
not what i meant that would be
this one
the united states will
immediately
expand the implementation of the
existing migrant protection
protocols
across its entire southern
border this
means that the dos crossing the
u.s.
thousand border to seek asylum
will be
rapidly returned to mexico
where they
may await the adjudication of
their
asylum claim
in response Mexico will
authorize the
entrance of all of those
individuals for
humanitarian reasons in
compliance with
its international obligations
while they
await the adjudication of their
asylum
claims Mexico will also offer
jobs
health care and education
according to its principles the
United
States commits to work to
accelerate the
adjudication of asylum claims
and to
conclude removal proceedings as
speciously as possible further
actions
both parties also agree that in
the
event the measures adopted do
not have
the expected results they will
take
further actions therefore the
United
States and Mexico will continue
their
discussions of the terms of
additional
understandings to address
irregular
migrants whole flows and Asylum
issues
to be completed and announced
within 90
days if necessary so that's
straight
from the horse's mouth so to
speak so it
sounds pretty much like what was
announced except for this
this this tweet from the
president
saying that Mexico is now going
to buy
more of our farm goods or
something I
don't know what he's talking
about maybe
I align those two things I know
one I do
have a clip on Asylum rule
changes but
but before that the New York
Times the
coast of course throws a wet
blanket on
this after the facts saying
this was
done deal last year this is
nothing new
which doesn't make sense it's
just like
the New York Times is ruining
their
reputation by you're just
throwing a wet
blanket on everything that just
got ya
got the T word associated with
it but
but this is kind of an
interesting clip
the new asylum rules which has
got some
people upset the agreement
require
asylum seekers to seek refuge
in the
countries they first cross into
under
the plan Guatemalan migrants
could only
apply for asylum in Mexico
Hondurans and
Salvadorans would be forced to
apply as
refugees in Guatemala the
emerging plan
drew fire from civil liberties
groups
including the ACLU which said
such a
change to the Asylum system
violates
both the US and international
laws and
is unlikely to survive a legal
challenge
really yeah why why would they
be
unlikely to survive a legal
challenge I
don't understand hey they're
all lined
does a CLU says so and of
course they're
always right and if I guess
there's some
rule where if you're like if
you're an
asylum seeker you don't have to
go to
the first shithole countries
next yes
you do
so I mean this is this I mean
that's
what they're saying yeah do you
know
they condemn Trump for saying
shithole
country yeah but in fact what
they're
durricks Brit they're showing
us this
shithole country so they think
the same
way yeah for sure
it is my impression that the
liberal
world order the New World Order
the
liberal banking elites the
global lists
they do not like anyone messing
with
tariffs that was that it seemed
like
people got a big knot in their
panties
or the panties in a bunch over
this you
know the World Trade
organization's all
pissed off everyone's like this
is crazy
Republicans then no one likes
this but
it seems it appears to be
effective now
I'm not sure that it is we'll
see but
they don't like that there's
and I guess
that's the same with brexit you
know
it's it's about you know the
it's altum
Utley it's about the deals if
it's about
the trade between the countries
yes something we need to pay
more
attention to or as a reaction
to it yeah
because they really really
don't like it
yeah they don't you're right
then my
final clip for today's
deconstruction
that just so we can get ready
because we
do have elections coming up in
Kanda
Naevia
what elections are these now is
this the
bigger election is this a big a
big
election for them the Parliament
election for members of
parliament a
parliamentary hello kandan
avians in the
troll room let me know what's
going on
what's what's going on we'd
like to know
what
what's happening a so we've
heard from
this young woman before her
name is
Karina Gould she is the
minister of
democratic institutions and she
has some
very troubling news it's not
just here
in the United States of gitmo
nation
happens up there as well I just
wanted
to give a quick update on the
Declaration on online electoral
integrity from two weeks ago I
wanted to
raise the issue that you know
when we
announced it on Monday May 27th
Google
Facebook and Microsoft were
very quick
to join they've in fact
demonstrated a
number of actions in the
interim however
we still haven't heard from
Twitter we
haven't heard from Twitter on
the
declaration we haven't heard
from
Twitter in terms of what they're
planning on doing for the
upcoming
election we haven't heard from
Twitter
with regards to whether they
will have
the online ad registry and I
think it's
important for Canadians to be
aware that
Twitter has essentially decided
not to
take responsibility for these
activities
that Twitter is not committing
to what
they will do here in Canada and
quite
frankly that you know where
we're facing
a time crunch I mean the
pre-ripped
period is going to be coming
very
shortly the elected election is
coming
shortly and we have yet to hear
from
Twitter we've heard from
Facebook we've
heard from Google but Twitter
remains
mum and I think this is
something that
Canadians should be aware of
and we hope
that Twitter will start to take
some
responsibility for the content
on their
platform we know that they have
that
their platform has been used and
manipulated by foreign
malicious actors
and we're still waiting to hear
what
their plans are here in Canada
block em
block them from the whole
country you
can't take that risk Canada
what yeah
yeah please yeah this is this
is this is
the playbook so you can always
go back
all the elections are gonna
suck from
now on because it's all evolved
clearly
we know what the Russians did
clearly
those Russians yeah it's all
that ass
so I'm so sad so annoying I
think this
is the big election this is the
one
where they can get rid of get
rid of
Trudeau might not be a crazy
idea that
would be my kid alrighty I
think we've
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a clique
I'm in a in a an old M&L of
Airbnb ah
she's not an air be view to be
n being
put into the proper
bed-and-breakfast
with the really beautiful
breakfast done
by the owner and so some old as
an old
house and it has one of those
old
toilets that I think I've
mentioned
before on the show that has way
up in
the air what it has the the
reservoir
way up in the air so he uses
the real
gravity big-ass gravity but it
needs
that because it's one of those
typical
olden got two toilets that has
the shelf
and and for people on off him
the the
main dutch toilet maker in the
days
start making the mainly for
hospitals
and there's a shelf so when you
poop
then your poop stays on the
shelf so it
can be examined and no one ever
thought
that's kind of disgusting for
the home
and they just just use the
hospital
toilets and so you know you
just kind of
weird when you sitting off just
on the
shelf and that's why i eat the
extra
grass that is on in some places
hits the
fan and the netherlands it's on
the
shelf there's a poop above the
show
there's a poop upon the south
we keep it boil hell for the
Queen and
Commonwealth
the Dutch are in a rush to see
that
group applause proof is on the
cell
no that's okay if you're you're
a
homeless why do you say Adam I
say you
you're talking about yourself
you come
home your wife is on vacation
or on
business trip and you come home
with a
homeless walking down the street
well you're not coming home
with a
hooker Martha with these
cameras played
exactly homeless
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