Cover for No Agenda Show 1146: Googers
June 13th, 2019 • 2h 56m

1146: Googers

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there is no admiring the double-decker
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buses you can't have double decker buses
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that's for us exclusively here and then
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the Gitmo nation east in the UK yeah
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well those days are over
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so you have double-decker buses in San
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Francisco no San Francisco still has a
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nice reason they don't have them it's
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because everything's electro there's all
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electric buses and Bev's double-decker
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bus that can't make that little
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suspension thing work I guess sister no
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it's in the East Bay AC transit hmm
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Alameda County Transit and they use the
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buses they a number of them yeah they
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use them to go across the bay and they
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get twice as many people in the bus or
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not twice as many but quite a few more
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so it's not for tourism it's for actual
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transportation yeah that's nice yeah
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it's about time yeah well they got him
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here too in London they've had him there
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forever and it just amazes me how long
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it takes for somebody else to figure out
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it's not a bad idea yeah well they
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certainly should do triple-deckers by
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now traffic here is unbelievable
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it's gotten so bad there's so much
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that's happened since I was last in the
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UK like properly in the UK not just
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passing through there's buildings here
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that weren't here last time I checked it
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out how long ago was it that I was
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actually in in London I it's been a long
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time John it's been maybe see a lot of
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weird looking buildings too well that
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I'm looking right at that point it was a
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double-decker bus down the freeway she's
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is it red or is it red no it's green and
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white okay
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there's a big pointy building I mean I
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used to know what what happened to the
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to the gherkin to the they tear that one
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down already the big pickle yeah what
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happened to that one I can't see it
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anywhere still there is it behind the
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big pointy one now there must be there
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must be five or six different buildings
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just now anyway yeah we're here looks
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like it's falling over yeah I can see
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that one from here that's that's kind of
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kind of weird yeah but we chose this
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location specifically because it was in
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walking distance of the No Agenda London
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meetup that we held yesterday oh so
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you're in the Paddington area I am just
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just on the cusp of the Paddington area
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and and in here's very multi-culti
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though extremely here's the here's the
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best laid plan so we get this hotel I
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mean it is I see on the map it's a four
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minute walk and of course I did not
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bring the smartphone and I'm I'm
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hell-bent on even though you know I like
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ah you know should we and we don't we
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should have some navigation capabilities
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I'm like no no I can map this out in the
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room and I can write down the directions
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I'll be fine
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four minutes I swear to god it took us
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15 it's the map skills they really do
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diminish over time if you don't keep him
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up yeah so I went to that same place we
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had a yes is the Victoria in Paddington
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yeah we went there and I walked I know
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how to get I knew how to get there
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without it I didn't have my smartphone I
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was you know we had that much burners
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that we could use in the area and so I
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knew how to get there from the hook from
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the hotel and it was like you go down
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the Main Street that goes past Victoria
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Station you take a right mhm you can
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just keep walking it bang you run right
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into this right there exactly so I left
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the event and I figured well I'm just
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gonna go back to where I came and for
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some reason I took the wrong Street back
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it wasn't quite that bad yeah so we
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arrived 7:30 a.m. yesterday morning from
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our direct flight on Norwegian air from
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Austin first time we took this I have to
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say very impressed by the budget airline
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ok who flies we need a report on this
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airline confronted with it yeah a short
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short report this is now American
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Airlines / British Airways has a daily
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flight from Austin to Heathrow and it's
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very expensive and no matter no matter
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what class you're in it's expensive
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Norwegian competes with that there a
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budget airline in and actually I think
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they're now the biggest airline from
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Europe to New York that was that was
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kind of their first thing this is the
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plane with the the red nose in fact the
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callsign is even red nose and then the
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flight number because there's a lot of
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alcoholics oh yeah oh yeah celebrating
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celebrating so it's it's probably about
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40% cheaper than British Airways and
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they fly the Dreamliner the seven seven
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eight seven yeah nice aircraft I had not
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been on this yet you had I thought you
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were raving about it before no no no it
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was that was the the big Airbus I flew
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on that but the Dreamliner is besides
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being a plastic plane which is not my
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favorite yeah I thought you were never
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gonna fly on one because it's all
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plastic yeah well I had to get here one
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way the other I can't afford it kind of
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British Airways is a is Airbus usually
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too but it's just it's fantastic I've
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very impressed that service you know you
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don't get a lot of frills and you can
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order extra stuff on board and they
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don't have a charge for everything my
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understanding is that they charge for
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yes they do they do they charge for a
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blanket they charge for water are you to
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go to the bathroom no they don't charge
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they don't charge was it don't charge
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you to go to the bathroom now
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I thought had a coin-operated door huh
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good try
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it was mister I was misled by the staff
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at British Air well yeah
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you wonder why now I have to say the
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keeper has been really smart
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um she is hell-bent and determined on
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letting everybody know that this is our
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honeymoon
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so right away in Norwegian air she says
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you know as we get our glass of water
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you said it's her honeymoon oh that's
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great yeah and yep lo and behold as show
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up two little bottles of champagne well
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here these are for you take these this
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is it this is actually almost a
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travelling tip and if we do that's a
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great idea and the fact is that they did
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Norwegian air is notorious for not
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giving away the exactly and it was
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champagne it was brutal champagne year
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wasn't yeah the little mini bottle well
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so then we as we laughed like a couple
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of diligence
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well if to mid 50 year olds can they get
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away with it you know he's like yeah
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we're newlyweds there was no question
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you know there was there was no show me
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your papers please
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travelin chip is worth the price of a
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donation and it gets better and so when
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we here at the hotel of course when you
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when you arrive all right I want to talk
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about the entry process into the UK
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something else I hadn't witnessed this
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is completely biometry sized and not
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automatic
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it's better than we have it's better
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than world entry you just walk up to the
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thing you shove your passport it
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registers your face takes a picture for
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all eternity so we can track you
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throughout the entire country but you're
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done yeah it's pretty pretty fast no
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interviews no no no nothing get your bag
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walk through the green the green alley
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perfect so we take a character the chips
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yes so back to the tip so we're the
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airport to the hotel and the hotel of
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course you know are yeah well obviously
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check-in as a checkout is it noon
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check-in is it - it's 9 o'clock and
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we're here so yeah and the keeper does
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it have well this is our honeymoon this
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is great we'll have some champagne you
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for you
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while we're working on your room you
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know this typically takes a lot longer
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but we're gonna work on it for you and
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so we went out into Hyde Park and it was
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there was this window of two hours of
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really beautiful weather so we saw the
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the Albert Memorial the Italian gardens
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came back around 11:30 our room was
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already done yes we know you're you're
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newlyweds your room is done and this
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isn't almost three hours before they
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would have to have it done we have our
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free champagne yeah you know they do the
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the nice love Swan origami with the
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towels on the bed have you ever seen
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this no and it just works you can't go
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to the same places probably but so this
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is yeah this is a great travel tip tsa
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in the US did something new to me though
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this was as you know whenever I travel
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with teens your honeymoon no maybe maybe
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that's what happened yes of course
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whenever I travel with Tina we both get
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pre-check even though she's never
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registered etc so and if I travel alone
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even though unregistered have a number I
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don't so we go through yeah so this
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pre-check you just throw your bags on I
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have to take laptop side I've got
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thinking I've got the whole studio
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everything as usual I take my Nokia my
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literal cell phone throw it in my jacket
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the jacket goes through you go through
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the magnetometer cuz you don't go
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through the body scanner and the guy
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says let me see your let me see your
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phone and I think he's like I feel like
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this is a joke or something like I can't
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go through the I didn't take it said I
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don't have my phone he says I saw you
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put it in your bag I said put him I was
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confused I thought it was joking or okay
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and so I get my the Nokia and I hand it
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to him and he looks at it kind of weird
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and then he swabs it and they were doing
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this for every other passenger this is
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new I've never had the cell phone swab
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you
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huh well there must be an alert at or
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something what someone with a cell phone
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bomb well I've it makes a lot of sense
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if you want I mean if you want to know
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if someone is being in contact with any
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type of explosives the best way is to
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get something you know like they're so
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fun which you'd be handling you'd have
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it up to your face that's maybe that's
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it yeah secondary yeah cuz you yeah
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that's that's pretty smart
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yeah yeah anyway so that that's what
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that was um let me see do have anything
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well then you know obviously then we
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have the the no I've talked to these LT
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swappers the number of times about what
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they're looking for and they got all
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these new tests and they checked things
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out and I forget what I get something
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checked recently that was didn't make a
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lot of sense to me
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and oh yeah I brought it oh yeah it's
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coming back from Austin from your
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wedding yeah and I brought a bunch of
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seasonings and they were all they had
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the check they've swab the crap out of
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my barbecue seasonings so slightly
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explosive anyway yes out out the other
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end but explosive nonetheless a oh
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[Music]
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that's right the No Agenda meetup just a
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few words about our meetup at the
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Victoria and will be thanking people
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later on
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who gave on-the-spot donations I was
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very surprised I didn't really know what
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to expect the whole thing was organized
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by the Earl of Tennessee Sir Patrick
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Coble who flew in from Berlin where he
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was doing some penetration testing yeah
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actually I think he was doing a see does
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speeches about penetration testing -
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yeah he's got good stories yes and and
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just a big thanks to him
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and it's so interesting that you know
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our Earl from Tennessee is put this
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together and they were when we walked in
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just we were supposed to be from 6:00 to
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9:30 we're more or less on time
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by about five five guys there including
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mr. Patrick like oh this is kind of cool
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you know and just
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we're chatting and John before you know
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it we had 50 people there it got really
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it was fun we would just you do a
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headcount you came up with 50 that's he
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I didn't do it I was unable to do an
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exact headcount the the picture at the
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end of the evening which never includes
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everybody was over 40 so yeah I think we
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were at least 50 maybe a little bit more
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and and this was in my experience the
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most diverse group of people we've ever
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had I mean white black brown gay
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straight old young Tourette's autism
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Asperger conservative-liberal everything
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was represented huh yeah much much I
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mean I was like wow this is like the
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United Colors of Benetton a lot of dudes
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named Ben but also there was quite a
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number of women there of course Dame
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he's a bill who's our first female
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listener and she would mean a lot of
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people who have been listening since
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episode one and universally this is what
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we heard from everybody I love this
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Meetup
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I love meetups with no agenda people
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because I can speak frankly without
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having to be worried about overstepping
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triggering saying you're wrong and but
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there's somebody with a stick up their
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ass but it's it's like I here's here's
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what I heard from almost everybody I
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can't say what I think at my work I
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can't say what I think around my friends
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I can't say what I think or my opinion
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at school with my family and people felt
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an incredible sense of community and by
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no means were these all KKK Nazi
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quadroon all right nut jobs this is just
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we had multiple people who work at the
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BBC my favorite has to be the gay
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magistrate from Manchester
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um who by the way worked for Gove
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Michael Gove and I'd said straight up I
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said did he ruin the education system in
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the UK I said no no no did you have to
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go and get his coke today no no no just
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a lot of a lot of good information and
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and there was at a certain point we were
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so we're taking selfies and you know
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we're deaf we're rowdy and we're taking
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over this place and it's packed and it's
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drizzling outside so it has this perfect
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London you know pub vibe and I'm taking
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some pictures with some of our producers
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and behind me there's a couple sitting
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in kind of a booth and they've just been
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sitting there for a while and I felt
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that I knock something over as I backed
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up and I'm like oh shit I turn around
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and that's oh
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did I knock something and I thought was
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there drink but no it's just the menu
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and they look at me and they say can we
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ask you a question
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yeah so well we're from Florida and we
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just got here we've never been to London
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and we wanted to get a real feeling for
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a typical English pub who are you guys
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what kind of Club is this they could not
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figure out what we were about and I said
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yes and who are you what yeah this is
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that I can assess appreciate that I mean
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it's it's non-standard here you created
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a non-standard situation and they were
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brought into and they they were baffled
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yeah sure and of course they were
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immediately hit in the mouth and I'm
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sure they're listening right now so
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plenty of plenty of stories and I'm sure
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we're talking about that in shows to
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come and we have some donations that
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we'll talk about I just what were on the
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topic at simultaneously we had the
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Oklahoma City meetup which was organized
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by Cassidy Eastwood and I just wanted to
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read her report he says that there were
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about a dozen of us ranging from 24
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years old to 70ish sorry Jimmy not sure
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of your age we even had a night in our
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present surprise and he surprised us
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with magic tricks I didn't know we had a
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magician we all
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and over his night ring people came from
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all over the state even one drove up
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from Dallas the first question asked to
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each arrival was how did you happen upon
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no agenda and the best response was
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given by Air Force John who was looking
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for podcasts to listen to and did a
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search for best podcast G guess what the
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first result was the best podcast in the
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universe which is an accurate search
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it's been using Bing precisely he also
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made a point to make his first donation
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oh we all discussed religion politics
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education and the general state of the
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world at large over appetizers and
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cocktails there were a few strange looks
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from surrounding tables I greatly
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enjoyed talking to people whom I knew
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were open-minded I could feel the
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serotonin releasing in my brain as I
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conversed with this group of lovely
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people but one attendee even said and I
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quote I love this because I know that no
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one here will judge me even if we
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disagree on something and that is again
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this is the the constant observation
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from everybody who attends a No Agenda
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mido and so we encourage more of those
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No Agenda meetups calm alright
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news from London Bojo has the mojo mojo
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Bojo Boris Johnson has the Mojo so I
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have abortion Singh clip from the great
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Boris Johnson hater okay gene so bright
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let me just do a little background for
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people don't listen to LBC James O'Brien
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is this a remainer uh he is hates the
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Brits yeah
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he's really he's a talk show guy whose
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ID is one of the most skilled at making
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you look like an idiot if that's what he
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wants mm-hmm because he in fact he's so
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good at I would I think people who do a
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show or making a mistake they shouldn't
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do it this just boycott him and he hates
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everybody he hates Faraj he hates Boris
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Johnson but he's got the goods on Boris
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Johnson and and it's just minor goods
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that seems to me but the way he presents
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it with his over his repetitious
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approach to slamming somebody's
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slandering them his is a gift and here
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we go Boris Johnson is a man who's been
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fired from jobs for lying about quotes
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allegedly from his own grandfather
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Godfather I beg your pardon
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Boris Johnson fired from the times from
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making up quotes from his own Godfather
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okay lied to party leaders lied to wives
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like two mistresses went to court to try
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to stop you from finding out about a
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little girl that he'd fathered out of
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wedlock he actually went to court so
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that you wouldn't find out about his
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appalling sexual incontinence and I mean
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it when I say because I used to go with
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sort of conservative coffee mornings and
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things like that well I'd go with with
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my mum sometimes it would more of a
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social occasion and I always had this
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sort of begrudging suburban respect for
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that type of Tory a Shia Tory because
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although I felt they were a little bit
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immune to the suffering of others in
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some cases they did seem to subscribe to
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values values you could loosely describe
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as Christian Christian Concern
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vut ISM and that would be absolutely
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outraged by the idea of a man going to
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court to stop you finding out that he'd
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fathered a little girl outside wedlock
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while lying to it come on that's not
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what Trump paid off stormy Daniels for I
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mean where's this guy the times have
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changed wives and lying to his
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mistresses lying to his voters lying to
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his employers lying to his party leaders
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lying to his constituents lying to his
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interviewers there's a recording of him
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that I'll play later in the program of
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him colluding with a now convicted
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criminal to get a journalist beaten up
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yes you heard me correctly it's on tape
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oh boy it's Johnson agreeing to help a
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former school friend from Eton to get
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hold of the address of a journalist
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because the former school friend from
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Eton wanted to have him battered so you
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see what I mean I just mentioned any one
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of those six seven eight transgressions
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and theoretically from where I sit that
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should be the end of it for a
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conservative leadership contender but
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it's not
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which I think signals the end of any
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claim to moral high-ground or morality
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from the Conservative Party what that's
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really interesting because he is the
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number one in the first round of voting
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by by a large margin let's take a look
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at what a couple to deconstruct a little
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bit about the way Bryan does this ad
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deaf but he does not want to see Boris
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Johnson as the actually probably does
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because it'd be great for a show right
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once he starts off with this horrible
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misquoting of his god father something
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and making up quotes and he makes takes
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that to an extreme as that's some sort
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of a horrible thing to do maybe was a
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misunderstanding is a million things
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that could be they could explain it he
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uses the word colluding for a reason and
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then he says the way he actually because
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he says he lied to him and lighting him
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alive baba goes on and on and on and
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then he says just which I thought was
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just typical of Bryan you could take any
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of these six seven eight transgressions
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and apply them to Trump
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well I didn't say that but he's me so
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you can take any of them and then you
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can't understand what the two servitors
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have lost all their credibility because
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of these six seven or eight
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transgressions what six seven or eight
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transgressions he mention two two
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citations one misquoting his godfather
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and having an illegitimate child that he
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apparently went to court over and i
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don't know that this details behind it
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but I don't here six seven or eight
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transgressions this is a horrible person
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this this interviewer this James O'Brien
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guy I've listened I'm fascinated by his
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skills there's a verbal horrible guy
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this fifty seconds left on the clip we
24:01
play that for if there is you listen to
24:07
this program on a regular basis it
24:08
became inevitable when they introduced
24:11
base lawyers to the public life as soon
24:14
as farad's is allowed to speak
24:15
unchallenged undiluted lies and nonsense
24:18
the Conservative Party is finished so
24:20
when they chose to invite him on to
24:23
their bus to get brexit over the line
24:25
that was the death knell for any claims
24:27
in the Tory Party to integrity or
24:29
probity but for the very simple reason
24:32
that if one liar goes unchallenged lies
24:36
move into the mainstream which is how
24:37
you have a man who conspired to have a
24:39
journalist beaten up who went to court
24:41
to stop you finding out about his
24:42
daughter born out of wedlock who's lied
24:45
to both of his wives all of his
24:46
mistresses every constituent every
24:48
employer every party leader every
24:49
colleague every interview every
24:50
journalist he's ever encountered he's
24:52
not just lied to them he's actively
24:55
agitated to deceive them no it's an
24:58
outrage I tell you came up with three
25:05
couple more which I like to look into
25:07
but it's besides the point is so Johnson
25:10
is being attacked by the left and this
25:15
guy is representative of that and I
25:18
still wonder whether you know he he had
25:20
his shot he could have been the prime
25:22
minister a lot of people believe before
25:25
Teresa may stepped in front of the line
25:28
and took the job but I don't know I
25:31
don't know if Jonesy
25:33
I don't know I have no idea what's
25:36
people think today well he's a good guy
25:38
should be a prime minister well as I
25:41
said the the main the Evening Standard
25:43
which is edited by jaw is the guy George
25:48
Osborne remember George Osborne yeah he
25:52
was the what was he was he Chancellor I
25:56
don't remember what he did so he edits
25:59
the Evening Standard and that was the
26:01
headline when we arrived was Bo Joe's
26:03
got the Mojo um so and I'd looking at
26:08
the first round of voting I'm not quite
26:09
sure how the whole system works how many
26:11
rounds there are but he had I think 114
26:14
and it was was it um who's the Jeremy
26:19
guy hunt yeah yeah I think he was number
26:23
two truly hunt yeah with with 42 votes
26:26
or whatever it is so I was prepping the
26:29
show so I couldn't follow all of it but
26:32
it'll be interesting to see there's uh
26:34
is a lot going on here people at the
26:38
meetup but I'll say this is you know
26:39
we're completely effed they've kind of
26:42
given a given up on it who
26:47
about the getting out of the house the
26:49
brexit chitchat is they're gonna get out
26:51
or not
26:52
I think the universally people think
26:54
do-over is in the cards and then and
26:57
then and no brings it and I did want to
27:00
mention I think I sent you a link to it
27:01
the BBC had a two hour or two part each
27:05
part one-hour documentary about which
27:08
was filmed with permission from ghee for
27:11
harsh thought and he's the the crazy
27:13
gap-toothed guy from the European
27:15
Parliament with the near the Belgian you
27:17
speed and was he belgian present Prime
27:19
Minister it was big Wigan in Belgium
27:22
when they still had a government and he
27:25
allowed someone from a Belgian cameraman
27:27
to shoot a documentary and and this is
27:30
inside his office the car the train late
27:34
at night all the swear word it actually
27:37
made me wonder how much they didn't put
27:39
in it and he didn't really disclose this
27:41
to anybody who was around him at the
27:43
time and he was the the coordinator of
27:45
the brexit steering committee for you
27:48
know these two and a half years or two
27:49
years and it's a fascinating look at the
27:52
other side that we never really hear
27:54
much about did you did you see this
27:56
everybody didn't have time to see it now
27:58
it is I mean you can watch it for sure
28:00
now you can't really pull any clips from
28:02
it but when at a certain point you see
28:04
that and it's you know they're in the
28:05
European Parliament building in Brussels
28:07
and they go to Strasbourg and you kind
28:09
of get a little idea of how that works
28:11
and there's a lot of food where every
28:13
single shot there's always food there if
28:15
they're eating their drink and they do
28:17
meetings and they drink wine at the
28:19
meetings which is kind of a I think a
28:21
good thing but it's it's definitely for
28:25
bohtan in the United States
28:27
yeah well the link is in the show notes
28:28
it's well worth watching particularly
28:31
get like the the speech writers who were
28:34
then you know as it gets very close like
28:40
they're all jacked up and GD about it
28:43
it's it's a cool thing it's it's fun to
28:47
watch because we never get that side of
28:48
it and certainly not to that degree I
28:51
again I wonder what wasn't put in it
28:55
and the question for you though there
28:58
was an article that the New York Times
29:00
published headline that Google made 4.7
29:07
billion dollars from the news industry
29:09
and now it's time for the news industry
29:14
to take it back that wasn't the exact
29:16
headline did you follow any of this it's
29:20
been debated debated a little bit and
29:22
most people think it's bogus
29:24
well I thought it was scandalous at the
29:27
New York Times first of all they didn't
29:29
really even disclose that this was a
29:31
news industry lobbying group that
29:35
they're a part of which is the what is
29:39
it news it's the news media Alliance who
29:44
are lobbying for House Resolution 2050
29:48
for the journalism competition and
29:51
preservation act of 2019 that was
29:53
nowhere to be found in their article of
29:56
course not the New York Times they don't
29:58
they don't let you know what they're up
30:00
to anymore
30:01
it's a horrible operation well I'd like
30:03
to know what your Lib joes thought of
30:04
this in particular the assertion made
30:06
based on a comment from Marissa Meyer in
30:09
2008 was she offhandedly although it was
30:13
I think in an investor situation so it
30:17
can be taken with some degree of of
30:19
certainty that in 2008 Google News had
30:22
made approximately a hundred million
30:24
dollars from News and that was the guy
30:28
was the whole quote and they
30:30
extrapolated that by adding ten years to
30:33
it and said that looks like four point
30:34
seven billion is what we're not making
30:36
and Google is stealing from us and now
30:40
they have this lobbying group it is a
30:43
501 C 4 and it's the lobbying for the
30:49
passage of house resolution to build
30:51
journalism competition and preservation
30:52
act of 2019 which would allow all news
30:56
publishers which by the way you don't we
31:00
wouldn't qualify for because you have to
31:02
have professional editors on payroll you
31:05
have to have at least a million
31:08
people interacting with your website on
31:10
a monthly basis otherwise okay yeah if
31:13
you have that many people that you just
31:14
described you don't need help from the
31:16
government this you know just I know
31:18
where the stamp is from well let me just
31:20
tell you what what the what the plan is
31:22
the plan is they want 48 months so they
31:25
want what is that four years they want
31:28
four years to to have anti anti trust
31:34
anti competition laws
31:38
what does the word not apply to the news
31:41
industry so they can collude with each
31:43
other over four-year period
31:45
to find out how they can screw Google
31:48
and Facebook back that's in essence what
31:51
it is they they want to be able to work
31:54
together as a group and figure out how
31:57
to get the money back this is the kind
31:59
of idiots that are running the business
32:01
first of all the stems from the
32:04
Canadians who decided to put a fun
32:06
together and has rice papers a bunch of
32:08
free money that's right
32:09
so they want to say well you know
32:11
they're doing it up there they're
32:13
getting free money we should do the same
32:14
thing the second thing is is this
32:16
nonsense about Yahoo and it being
32:18
extrapolate Yahoo is a news organization
32:20
in a lot of ways one whole division they
32:23
take the Associated Press feed they pay
32:27
for it they're not they have writers
32:29
that they pay to pay money to the Google
32:32
Yahoo sport which is very competitive
32:34
it's probably as competitive as as ESPN
32:36
or as a Sports Illustrated when it comes
32:38
to print
32:39
I'd like to smell that about that I'd
32:40
like to hold your I'd like to interrupt
32:42
your analysis
32:43
I'd like to interrupt your analysis
32:45
because I want this to continue after I
32:47
play these two clips which explain a
32:49
little bit more about how they really
32:50
feel about it though so this is a bill
32:54
that's called the sizzling bill
32:56
representative David Cicilline here he
32:59
explains briefly what the the news media
33:03
Alliance is about with HR 2054 this is a
33:06
really important issue for everyone in
33:08
our country because we all recognize
33:11
that our democracy is strongest when we
33:13
have a free and diverse press that
33:15
informed citizens holds concentrated
33:18
power accountable and roots out
33:20
corruption as justice Louis Brandeis
33:23
wrote in 1927 those who won our
33:25
independence believe that public
33:27
discussion is a political duty that the
33:29
greatest threat to freedom is an
33:31
uninformed citizenry and that the
33:33
freedom of thought and speech are
33:35
indispensable to the discovery and
33:37
spread of political truths but today as
33:40
you all know these bedrock
33:41
constitutional values are facing
33:44
existential threats
33:47
information dominant platforms last year
33:50
Facebook and Google amassed more than 60
33:53
billion dollars from online advertising
33:55
the majority of online ad revenue and
33:57
despite record levels of online
34:00
readership news publishers have seen a
34:02
steep decline in revenue during the rise
34:04
of these technology giants the
34:07
bottleneck is bleeding news publishers
34:09
dry and you see evidence all across this
34:12
country and in the absence of a
34:13
competitive marketplace newsrooms across
34:15
the country are laying off reporters and
34:17
editorial staff or folding altogether
34:19
this is happening to legacy news
34:22
companies and digital publishers alike
34:24
there is no question that we've reached
34:26
a tipping point what's really important
34:28
to remember is this is not just a
34:30
marketplace that's not working in
34:32
providing an absence of competition
34:34
where we're sort of losing the have sale
34:36
of widgets this is about the very
34:38
foundation of our democracy access to
34:40
reliable trustworthy local news this
34:44
trend continues we risk permanently
34:46
compromising the news organizations that
34:48
are essential to uncovering corruption
34:50
holding the government and powerful
34:52
corporations accountable and sustaining
34:54
our democracy oh yes the old democracy
34:57
what has never mentioned is that they
35:01
never newspapers never made money off of
35:04
news ever and they blew it you were I
35:08
think weren't you you and I both a part
35:10
of the of the Newmark conversation yeah
35:14
that with Hearst no it's with was not
35:18
rehearsed was it there was the publisher
35:22
that was married to what's-her-name the
35:25
actress
35:26
yeah the Sharon Stone yeah what's his
35:29
mr. mr. mr. Stolley Bronfman mr. stone
35:34
Rothman bro Bronstein Bronson Braun from
35:38
Bronfman Brompton no no no Bronstein
35:40
Bronstein Braun from you're thinking
35:43
that guy were used to run Seagram's yeah
35:45
isn't that the guy didn't wasn't he also
35:47
married to Sharon Stone I think they're
35:54
telling the story
35:56
we will tell dick you're right Bronstein
35:58
I'm sorry
35:59
yes yeah your teen Phil Bronstein yeah
36:03
I'm wrong I'm wrong yes bronzy your name
36:05
yes okay so Bronstein is in he tells the
36:09
story says that in the early days of the
36:12
net
36:13
don't call the net Craig Newmark comes
36:17
in the guy who says does Craig's List
36:19
and it was it was in the 90s and it was
36:22
you know just making money off of
36:24
classifieds it was making money off of
36:26
classified locally was doing these freak
36:28
and they were free classifieds and his
36:30
whole Terry was you just give away the
36:31
class because the computer you're you
36:34
know it's text you know you didn't take
36:37
a lot to to store it and and send it
36:40
around it's not a lot of overhead in
36:42
terms of resources of the internet
36:45
resources and so his idea was to get
36:48
free classifieds to everybody and then
36:50
let people pay for job listings and
36:53
things that are a little more you know
36:54
that can actually bring in some cash and
36:56
he he sorted reverse the whole model
36:59
about how classifies work and so he goes
37:01
in there and talks to Bronstein I guess
37:08
their honor who else was at the meeting
37:09
but he says he comes in and offers them
37:11
the whole Craigslist model if like two
37:13
million dollars or something some
37:15
ridiculously low amount a figure but if
37:17
he said a figure wasn't much no but he
37:19
said but he offered him the model and
37:21
they said we know how to do classifieds
37:23
we don't need your help you dumb shit
37:26
get out of here yep and so they kicked
37:28
him out pretty much I'm not sure they
37:30
didn't say that but there's something
37:31
like that and this I've seen this happen
37:33
in other situations and I also saw it
37:36
happen with classifieds when I was a fly
37:38
on the wall at the Media Lab in
37:41
Massachusetts where they were where
37:43
Hearst Corporation was meeting with the
37:46
Media Lab people to discuss something of
37:49
night and that sure wixi what it was
37:50
anymore but something like that was
37:52
brought up in that meeting too and there
37:54
was the same kind of response you know
37:55
we know what we're doing yeah I had the
37:57
same when I pitched before we were think
37:59
new ideas is on ramp we pitched Tribune
38:02
Company in Chicago you know that
38:04
beautiful building they have there with
38:06
the radio station was still down the
38:08
bottom of this still there and we got
38:10
laughed out of the building
38:12
we have a story server wasn't that the
38:15
thing story server what was it gosh what
38:20
was that that content management system
38:22
vignette vignette
38:24
yes vignette story server like you
38:26
couldn't unique classifies we got an
38:28
idea for that that's how you've been
38:29
making on and then this is a new world
38:31
we know how to make money off of news
38:32
well that never made money off of news
38:34
it's just that it was always the
38:37
classifieds that was the main thing
38:38
classifieds went away that's when the
38:40
problem started but oh no now all of a
38:42
sudden it's no I disagree with that and
38:45
I think that's a myth I think this comes
38:47
up a lot I think it came up in these
38:49
clips it you have the problem started
38:52
with television and it started a long
38:56
time ago and you can look at the curves
38:58
the growth curves and everything else
39:00
with the newspaper business they don't
39:01
like to talk about it but that's where
39:03
it started television came in with the
39:05
hourly report that nightly news and all
39:07
you Cronkite the two Huntley and
39:12
Brinkley and those guys came in and they
39:14
just started taking the taken the
39:17
impetus away from the newspapers who
39:18
really had to compete with the
39:19
television guys who were stealing a lot
39:21
from those are the guys that were
39:22
stealing from television if you or I'm
39:25
sorry they were stealing from newspapers
39:26
have you worked at a radio station in
39:28
the fifties or sixties everyone will say
39:30
the same thing we'd get the newspaper we
39:32
clipped the dog articles that were
39:34
interesting and we run him as news right
39:36
okay and they where was the lawsuits
39:38
today where was the big stink now they
39:41
got ripped off left and right during the
39:42
end they got they started shrinking and
39:44
shrinking to the point where and it was
39:46
a halt it was pre-internet is when they
39:49
had something called a joint operating
39:51
agreement which all the newspapers
39:53
jumped in on when they gave this I this
39:55
is the last time that they soaked the
39:57
government so they say let's take a
39:58
joint Optus to make these joint
39:59
operating agreements because especially
40:02
because the television the evening
40:03
newspapers were all dying because the
40:05
evening newspaper was the one that you'd
40:07
read underground but once the evening
40:11
news came on nobody was reading the
40:13
evening newspapers so they had to dream
40:15
up this joint operating agreement
40:17
locally it was a San Francisco Examiner
40:18
and the San Francisco Chronicle and it
40:21
was in Chicago and Detroit every place
40:24
around the country did this they
40:25
joined forces because they needed to and
40:27
they kind of you know started
40:30
emphasizing the morning paper more they
40:32
shared resources and shared profits and
40:35
that was the first idea that was the
40:36
first collusion that they needed to do
40:38
they were never competitive with it they
40:41
never could figure out how to do this
40:42
right and they've done failing and
40:44
failing and failing and continued to
40:46
fail and when the internet came along
40:47
and took the classifieds away that just
40:50
was the icing on the cake for the just
40:51
the demise of the whole operation
40:53
because they couldn't figure out what
40:54
they would they're incompetent there's
40:56
something that they do in the United
40:58
Kingdom on television late-night so
41:01
which would typically be our our news
41:04
timeslot maybe ten right I think I know
41:08
you like I agree this is a great day I
41:10
love this they sit down with two people
41:12
it's and these guests they they very
41:15
sometimes it's an editor of a newspaper
41:17
it's politicians can be someone from
41:19
show business and they go through all
41:21
the papers that will be published in the
41:23
morning and they show the you know the
41:25
headlines and they have an analysis and
41:27
they talk about what's in the paper I
41:29
think that's a I've always thought that
41:30
was fantastic it's very engaging to
41:32
watch and of course you don't have to
41:35
buy the damn paper the next day well if
41:39
it's done right and I think the Brits do
41:41
it right I know that the most people in
41:44
the United States can get these reports
41:45
via Sky News on Pluto the Sky News does
41:52
it very well and they've been doing that
41:54
for gosh but BBC does it too don't they
41:56
don't they have a version of it on BBC
41:58
or any Sky they probably do but I knew
42:01
someone that impresses me the most and
42:02
you have to remember the Sky News was
42:04
once part of the Murdoch Empire so
42:06
they're not killing themselves when
42:08
Murdoch suppose a newspaper guy David
42:10
this was a form of promotion for the
42:12
papers because they go on about
42:13
something that might interest you and
42:15
then the British and I think you might
42:18
pick up the paper what makes it even
42:20
British newspaper business is a lot
42:23
different than ours what makes it even
42:25
more interesting is that News Corp is
42:28
heavily represented in this news media
42:31
Alliance and the only other clip I have
42:33
is the Shortland from tony bush
42:36
she is the what is she she's the
42:39
government affairs executive at News
42:42
Corporation what I think has been
42:45
missing in the discussion up until
42:48
recently is the fact that Google and
42:50
Facebook are in the advertising business
42:52
Google made 135 billion dollars last
42:55
year off of advertising Facebook made 56
42:59
billion dollars of of advertising the
43:02
entire digital advertising market is
43:05
around two hundred thirty seven billion
43:07
so they've taken 195 billion out of it
43:10
which leaves around 30 billion for
43:13
everybody else including the newspaper
43:15
industry and that is really the crux of
43:18
the problem that we're facing which is
43:20
the system is broken the inter trust
43:23
laws have not been enforced during the
43:28
evolution of the tech platforms and we
43:31
need to both investigate that but in the
43:35
interim we need a solution and the
43:37
shalini bill is really that solution
43:39
okay so we can collude with each other
43:42
for two for four years and come up with
43:45
a way to screw them back hey not gonna
43:48
happen no these guys there's a dumbs
43:50
versus the smarts and this nonsense that
43:54
Google is you know you go to Google to
43:56
go to Google News calm and you can see
43:58
we're good there's that which is not
43:59
even an ad on that entire page he mean
44:01
news.google.com do what I say Google
44:05
News com let me see what Google Beck
44:09
let's see if that is anything oh go
44:11
straight to cnet.com that's funny
44:13
yeah news.com is no embracing it yes
44:15
they bought it right away
44:16
anyway the they don't run that no they
44:20
actually do not run advertising on the
44:22
news that's something that Google is
44:24
very vocal about now we don't run ads on
44:26
that no they make their money on search
44:29
well and this is if you're searching for
44:32
some news story and you're on the page
44:34
you're gonna get some ads and it's got
44:36
nothing to do it's not taking revenue
44:37
these guys are shooting themselves in
44:38
the foot just the same thing they happen
44:40
in Belgium I think or what one European
44:42
country remember this was about ten
44:44
years ago they were all upset all Google
44:46
indexing impaired the index
44:49
paper and then they're making people
44:51
link to it's then their people are
44:53
coming from these links so we don't like
44:55
that because we don't have control of it
44:57
so we don't want Google linking to us
44:58
anymore so they stopped linking to him
45:00
and they went out of business something
45:03
I did not clear what the Google link
45:04
dummy
45:05
something I I didn't clip but there was
45:08
part of the part of what they were
45:09
talking about this News Alliance panel
45:12
was well you know when you click on the
45:15
story Google gets all the information
45:17
but what are you in newspapers you in
45:20
the news business you in the information
45:22
about people business so you can turn it
45:23
around and do something with that and
45:25
they all fell for the whole amp thing
45:27
remember that AM yeah you got to get
45:30
Google amp because then it loads faster
45:32
and it's fantastic and Google amp means
45:34
that everything you do runs through
45:36
Google you dipshit
45:38
well yeah yeah we're all on Google amp
45:40
and they do the same thing when Facebook
45:42
was like yeah we're all about news
45:43
remember this Google amp yeah I think
45:46
it's still used geez yeah I was am
45:49
amplify or something everyone's oh yeah
45:52
because it preloads and it's compressed
45:54
on both sides and thank you google and a
45:57
Facebook you recall Facebook so changing
45:59
the algo for news everyone oh yeah great
46:01
and they change it back to friends and
46:03
family like boo yes accelerated mobile
46:07
pages that's what amp stood for Thank
46:09
You troll room for phones yeah was for
46:14
mobile for mobile to make anything well
46:17
I looked at the most recent mary meeker
46:19
entered a state of the Internet report
46:22
which is three hundred and thirty three
46:23
pages long this year
46:24
I'm glad she's doing some with their
46:26
time everything is stagnated revenue is
46:30
not really dropped here and they're
46:33
stagnant stagnant stagnant everything is
46:36
kind of plateauing but mobile is now
46:40
double desktop it's is it's just
46:44
surpassed everything which I'm sure the
46:46
a lot of people are happy about because
46:49
we want these spy devices to be on your
46:52
person at all time so we know exactly
46:54
what you're doing that's the real that's
46:56
the real juice they got
46:58
not the news well this has been
47:00
predicted of course for years that
47:04
mobile would take over yeah most of the
47:06
action on the Internet and okay so right
47:11
along with this yeah I think we should
47:15
do a quick little call back to the ad
47:19
pocalypse deconstruction that we did on
47:21
the last episode which I think most
47:22
people appreciated and I think at least
47:28
the feedback I've been getting is huh I
47:30
really didn't look at it in just the
47:32
pure commercial sense that these guys
47:34
are in competition for the advertising
47:36
dollars which is what you literally just
47:38
heard from the entire news business it's
47:40
like there are not voting and weren't
47:42
advertising and that's not fair I have
47:52
to work on him Susan Wojcicki who is the
47:56
CEO of YouTube in what I believe is a a
48:01
crisis move showed up on recode for a
48:05
45-minute interview which is on YouTube
48:09
and recode is owned by Vox there are a
48:13
lot of Vox journals there and even the
48:17
guy who was doing the interview I think
48:19
he's he's how if he's just a recode guy
48:22
or if he's a higher up inbox and talking
48:26
about this ad pocalypse and I had to
48:29
pull a couple of clips because it's so
48:31
beautiful the things that are being said
48:32
here but the first thing which I think
48:37
that we talked about this that kind of
48:39
got snowed under is the whole you know
48:43
controversy over Crowder and Carlos
48:47
Bozza
48:47
was about LGBTQ and it was taking place
48:52
during Pride Month and you know it's
48:56
unbelievable during Pride Month someone
48:58
said something horrible about a gay man
49:01
on YouTube and this is the first thing
49:04
out of her mouth
49:05
no if I hadn't I love those setups here
49:09
we go
49:10
the first thing out of her mouth
49:12
of things happen last week and it's
49:13
great to be here and talk about what
49:16
happened but I do want to start because
49:18
I know that the decision that we made
49:22
was very hurtful to the LGBTQ community
49:25
and that was not our intention at all
49:28
and just that context frame was not
49:30
following us what decision this was yeah
49:32
so let me let me I'll go into that but I
49:35
thought it was really important to be
49:37
upfront about that and to say that was
49:39
not our intention I'm really sorry about
49:41
that and but I do want to explain why we
49:44
made the decision that we did as well as
49:47
give information about the other line
49:49
are you just heckling the clip or her
49:51
what are you doing condescending valley
49:56
girl up talk borderline vocal fry' voice
50:02
of hers is enough to drive anyone crazy
50:04
she's in her mid-40s and this must be
50:06
Amelia thing she just celebrated 20
50:09
yoli's totally yes 20 years at Google 20
50:13
years at Google she just celebrated two
50:14
decades so it's Millia and that's how we
50:17
talk I'm going on so really there were
50:19
two different things that happened at
50:22
the same time and the first one I'll
50:24
talk with is we made a really
50:25
significant change involving hate speech
50:28
that the first one that I will I'll talk
50:34
with yeah I know she does a lot of this
50:36
stuff I'll play it again
50:38
Google Talk some google hyphenated gugak
50:47
or is it one word I think two different
50:57
things that happened at the same time
50:59
and the first one I'll talk with is we
51:02
made a really see I think she's just she
51:04
does a lot of this she wants to say
51:06
something different like the first thing
51:08
I will address with you or I don't know
51:11
but her brain was behind her mouth that
51:16
this is something we had been working on
51:18
for months
51:19
so I'll just preset this up apparently
51:22
it was a great coincidence that they had
51:25
been
51:26
looking for months on new hate-speech
51:28
rules for their platform and on the very
51:31
same day they'd launch it this
51:33
controversy starts it's I mean it's just
51:36
unbelievable and we launched it on
51:38
Wednesday of last week this is a series
51:40
of policies we did you've been rolling
51:42
out so oh yes so so we've been making
51:46
lots of different policy changes on
51:47
YouTube and we made this this past week
51:50
we made a change in how we handle hate
51:53
speech that took months and months of
51:56
work and hundreds of people we had
51:57
working on that and that was a very
51:59
significant launch and a really
52:00
important one
52:01
I love how they've clearly been able to
52:04
come up with rules and she details them
52:07
in a moment
52:07
about hate speech something that legally
52:09
cannot even be done but yeah okay and
52:12
what we did with that launch is we made
52:14
a couple big changes one of them was to
52:19
make it so that if there's a video that
52:22
alleges that some race or religion or
52:25
gender or group protected group is
52:29
superior in some way and uses that to
52:31
justify discrimination or exclusion that
52:34
would now no longer be allowed on our
52:36
platform similarly if they if this if
52:40
you had a religion or race and they
52:43
allege that inferiority that another
52:46
group was inferior and they use that to
52:48
justify discrimination in one way these
52:52
changes that we made yeah so I can't say
52:56
hey 49ers stink they're inferior to the
53:00
Raiders I think you're very can't have
53:02
so Sports Talk is now eliminating I do
53:05
think you're very close he or she
53:07
expands on these regs examples would be
53:09
like race X is superior to x2 is
53:13
superior to Y and therefore Y should be
53:15
segregated okay that sounds clear to me
53:18
I'm all good if you're X or Y then
53:20
you're in trouble this is literally her
53:23
example examples would be like race X is
53:26
superior to x2 is superior to Y and
53:29
therefore Y I can see I can see the
53:33
googors I can see them on the whiteboard
53:36
okay here's race X ray
53:38
and why we do the route square root of
53:39
that and these guys everything's
53:41
mathematics to them everything they even
53:44
hate speech oh we got a formula for that
53:46
is it weird to you that you had to make
53:47
a rule that said this shouldn't be
53:49
allowed and this wasn't covered either
53:51
by an existing role that you had to tell
53:52
your community look this is not
53:53
acceptable well so actually it's a lot
53:56
of this you know if we're a global
53:57
company of course and so if you look at
54:00
European laws because there are a number
54:02
of countries that I have a really strong
54:04
hate speech law and which country has
54:06
very strong hate speech laws she's
54:09
referred I know she's referring to she's
54:12
referring to Germany's uh you can't talk
54:15
Nazi stuff you can't have a swastika and
54:19
there's some in the UK there's some some
54:21
of that in the UK but I don't know about
54:23
very strong but okay this country this a
54:26
lot of this country had never been
54:27
allowed in those countries but had
54:28
actually been allowed in the US and and
54:31
you know many other countries and so
54:33
what we had actually done with it a few
54:34
years ago is we had actually had limited
54:37
features so what she's saying actually
54:39
is that they actually already had these
54:41
limitation features on hate speech
54:43
actually and they had actually made that
54:45
less restrictive in the u.s. all they
54:47
had to do was flips which apparently
54:48
meaning that it wasn't in the
54:51
recommendations
54:52
it wasn't monetized I had an
54:53
interstitial in front of it to say that
54:56
it was content that we found offensive
54:58
and when we did that we actually reduce
55:00
the views to it by 80 percent it's
55:03
interesting what she's saying here is
55:05
the way they have their system actually
55:07
already working actually is they would
55:10
not put an ad in front of it
55:12
they would maybe even put an
55:14
interstitial which would be they would
55:15
that she means a warning and what they
55:19
would do is they would reduce its
55:21
viewership or its surfacing as a
55:23
recommendation by up to 80% notice not a
55:27
hundred percent not kicking you off why
55:29
because she does want people to view you
55:33
your video and click on other things
55:36
where they can make advertising money
55:37
and that is explained in a moment but
55:39
another example we found that it was
55:40
effective but we really wanted to take
55:42
this additional step and we made this
55:44
step on Wednesday we also added which is
55:46
really important to a few other
55:48
important
55:49
two protected groups so we added caste
55:52
because YouTube has become so
55:53
significant in India and then we also
55:56
added victims of verified violent events
55:58
so like saying the Holocaust didn't
56:00
happen or Sandy Hook didn't have it also
56:02
became violations of our policies and so
56:04
this was happening on Wednesday and we
56:06
launched it on Wednesday so how about
56:08
that just as an example you can't say no
56:12
one got hurt at Sandy Hook because
56:15
that's you know if people got hurt
56:16
during a big massive event then you
56:19
can't deny that that's very interesting
56:23
that that's the that's the the attack
56:25
that they've chosen and the reason why
56:27
is of course a parent in this one we
56:30
look at these accounts there are many
56:32
different components that we look at if
56:34
I were to do it again I would put it all
56:35
into one in one go yeah we're not gonna
56:39
help you make money on YouTube
56:41
monetization meaning we're not gonna run
56:44
ads against your stuff if you still want
56:46
to sell racist coffee mugs or whatever
56:48
you're selling that's your business but
56:50
we're not gonna help you we're not gonna
56:51
put an ad in front of your stuff so what
56:52
she's explaining here is why they will
56:55
de monetize but will not kick somebody
56:57
off you mugs or whatever you're selling
56:59
that's your business but we're not gonna
57:01
help you
57:02
we're not gonna put an ad in front of
57:03
your stuff well we said we're not gonna
57:04
put an ad in front of it but but the
57:09
conditions by which we mate will turn it
57:11
on can be broader than than just that so
57:15
for example if they're selling
57:18
merchandise and linking off of YouTube
57:20
and that is see she's not she what's he
57:23
saying is if your said if you're making
57:24
money outside of us yeah we really don't
57:27
want you to do that so we're gonna kind
57:29
of D monetize you but if you stop doing
57:31
that and this is just a mug that they're
57:34
that they're referencing I don't think
57:36
it was a racist mug was it racist mug it
57:40
was just a mug looking that guy who
57:42
crowd or whatever his name is right so
57:44
this is a commercial decision which I
57:46
understand is up 20 seconds you know
57:50
seen as racist or causing other problems
57:52
that we that's something that we will
57:55
discuss with the creator because again
57:56
we are
57:57
we're like putting advertising there so
57:59
we need to make sure that the
58:00
advertisers are going to be ok with it
58:02
and we have a higher standard and so you
58:05
can sort of look at all different parts
58:06
of that creator and and what they're
58:08
doing and basically apply that higher
58:11
standard there she never mentions what
58:14
the higher standard is because did we
58:17
all know what it is
58:18
brand safe that's your higher standard
58:21
yes this is something we've been harping
58:23
on now I should mention that I don't
58:26
know why this is a surprise to anybody
58:27
if anyone has experience with google
58:30
adsense in the early days mm-hmm
58:32
Google was very adamant about how these
58:35
things are gonna be placed in one
58:36
competition they don't like the idea so
58:39
they don't want you doing anything that
58:40
would interfere with their their streams
58:44
their financial streams come in there
58:47
they don't want you kind of latching on
58:50
to somehow and piggybacking on and
58:52
making money on your own without them
58:53
being in the middle that's all I got to
58:55
go through them yes every sub it's just
58:57
a style people won't have to go along
59:01
with it there's alternatives but nobody
59:04
wants you know YouTube is set up to you
59:06
know make it easy for everybody to put
59:08
their videos there so an assertion
59:11
happens by the way if YouTube just folds
59:13
into all the videos go away wonder why
59:16
would the world be different and how
59:18
would people react to that I wonder well
59:21
an assertion that we videos an assertion
59:25
that we came up with is that these
59:28
celebrity youtubers are insignificant to
59:32
their business insignificant to their
59:35
business in in regards to the actual
59:38
revenue so you know I agree well she's
59:42
gonna tell you how insignificant what
59:43
percentage do you think are of their
59:48
entire well she doesn't necessarily say
59:50
revenue but of all the videos that are
59:53
monetized by Google what percentage do
59:56
you think is is big and problematic or
59:59
just problematic because they're big
1:00:01
probably mean they're too big to fail no
1:00:05
the ones that is like Crowder and Joe
1:00:08
Rogan or Alex Jones or
1:00:10
anyone whose or laura Loomer or laura
1:00:13
southern or any of these people who
1:00:14
think that they're really important
1:00:16
what percentage of youtube's actual
1:00:19
business is the 1% or less can't fathom
1:00:22
why there's 8 million pieces of terrible
1:00:24
things coming onto your site on a
1:00:26
quarterly basis but that would really
1:00:27
upset me and worried me well it matters
1:00:30
what's the denominator like you you gave
1:00:33
the numerator right and so you know we
1:00:36
have a large denominator meaning we have
1:00:38
like lots of content is uploaded and
1:00:40
lots of users and and lots of really
1:00:42
good content and you know when we look
1:00:45
at it you know what that what all the
1:00:48
news and the concerns and the stories
1:00:50
have been have been about this
1:00:52
fractional 1% you talk about the other
1:00:55
ninety-nine point you know what you know
1:00:59
whatever that number is like that's all
1:01:02
really valuable content of people who
1:01:04
are sharing valuable points of view that
1:01:06
we haven't heard about educational
1:01:07
content addressing really important
1:01:11
issues and so I think it's important to
1:01:14
remember that and put that in
1:01:15
perspective and I say that not because
1:01:17
we are not committed to solving the
1:01:20
fractional 1% like we are very committed
1:01:23
and I've been really clear that this is
1:01:24
that responsibility is my number one
1:01:26
priority and there is a lot of work for
1:01:29
us to do I acknowledge that but I also
1:01:31
know that we have tremendous tools at
1:01:33
our fingertips that we can continue to
1:01:36
invest in to do a better job
1:01:38
fractional 1% you can't even give us the
1:01:42
fraction it's so small it's probably
1:01:44
half of a percent responsibility is her
1:01:48
number one priority no what was it again
1:01:50
she has a funny phrase was it right in
1:01:52
the beginning no is it the near the end
1:01:57
the fractional 1% like we are very
1:02:01
committed and I've been really clear
1:02:02
that this is the responsibility is my
1:02:04
number one priority and responsibility
1:02:07
what does that mean I think she means
1:02:10
number one priority responsibility it's
1:02:13
like what's your number-one priority uh
1:02:15
you know keep my washing my hands before
1:02:19
you know you know response what she
1:02:21
means in gooks be
1:02:23
it should be gooped speak not goop talk
1:02:25
I think it's gugak you think it's better
1:02:29
Google Talk Google who speak could fit
1:02:34
more within a normal meme yeah we had
1:02:38
will have to debate this later Oh Google
1:02:40
you take responsibility for the
1:02:43
borderline fractional 1% of issues
1:02:47
that's why she took responsibility for
1:02:50
hurting the LGBTQ community you see the
1:02:56
first question out of the gate the first
1:02:58
question she got from the audience was
1:03:00
ina freed are you familiar with ina
1:03:02
freed oh yeah by enough read who used to
1:03:05
be
1:03:06
Ian freed is transgender oh I dead named
1:03:10
her I'm sorry and here was her question
1:03:12
yep being afraid with Axios you started
1:03:14
off with an apology to the LGBTQ
1:03:17
community but then you also said that
1:03:19
you were involved in that you think
1:03:21
YouTube made the right call a lot of
1:03:23
people don't really feel like that's an
1:03:24
apology and are concerned that YouTube
1:03:27
flags lgbtq+ content just for being LGBT
1:03:32
as sometimes you know sensitive and yet
1:03:36
slurs are allowed and I'm curious are
1:03:38
you really sorry for anything to LGBTQ
1:03:41
community or are you just sorry that
1:03:42
they were offended I'm really personally
1:03:54
very sorry and I it was not our intent
1:03:57
our goal was you know YouTube has always
1:03:59
been a home of so many LGBTQ creators
1:04:02
and that's why it was it was so
1:04:07
emotional why really that's why even
1:04:16
though it was a hard decision it was
1:04:17
made harder than it came from us because
1:04:18
we've been such an important home and
1:04:20
the why what is wrong with her is that
1:04:22
this is their problem this is their
1:04:24
fractional 1% issue is that the social
1:04:28
justice warriors are relentless will not
1:04:30
stop for anything find find fault in in
1:04:37
in almost anything anyone says it's this
1:04:41
it's social justice warriors it's and
1:04:45
then they don't want the stories they
1:04:47
can't have the negative press and we've
1:04:49
been through this because that I didn't
1:04:53
clip all this of course but she even
1:04:55
said oh no we've reduced these things at
1:04:56
50% all of this whole blitz that she's
1:05:01
on is to inform advertisers it's safe
1:05:05
over here it's less than 1% we've and
1:05:08
even that we we we don't even show the
1:05:11
mom almost 20% maybe I think they're in
1:05:15
some serious trouble when it comes to
1:05:17
the advertising business I think they're
1:05:21
gonna have a real problem they haven't
1:05:25
taken over the whole thing and they're
1:05:30
set in a position where they have to
1:05:32
grow to maintain their stock price and
1:05:35
everything in between they're in serious
1:05:37
trouble insofar as growth but I don't
1:05:40
think they're in serious trouble is in
1:05:42
so far as it's gonna recede on them and
1:05:44
they're gonna make less and less money
1:05:46
like the newspapers well the competition
1:05:51
for their type of advertising is growing
1:05:54
and that's the all the other streaming
1:05:57
services including the the mains the m5
1:06:00
television networks who were all you
1:06:02
have now going into streaming and and
1:06:06
where people are buying more ads well
1:06:12
I'm not well they those ads would have
1:06:14
gone to the fractional ads and they
1:06:17
would have gone into network TV if they
1:06:20
could afford them because that's where
1:06:22
the action is for the big money spends
1:06:24
nowadays there's big magazines used to
1:06:27
suck him up good big giant magazine
1:06:29
would get into I think Vogue magazine
1:06:31
he's still a big giant magazine it's a
1:06:33
$2,000 for a page mm-hmm yeah which you
1:06:36
can't there's nothing like that and on
1:06:37
online no and I don't know I I think
1:06:44
their problem is this this introspection
1:06:46
may be damaging them when you have
1:06:48
somebody like this woman who's like you
1:06:50
know just fretting fretting and worried
1:06:53
sick
1:06:53
since apologizing wind of awkward ways
1:06:57
that she get called up and not
1:06:58
apologizing when she probably is
1:07:00
sincerely apologizing instead of yeah
1:07:03
apologizing very I'm sorry I hurt your
1:07:05
feet I'm sorry you've the I'm sorry you
1:07:07
think I hurt I'm sorry that's my
1:07:10
favorite I'm sorry you felt butthurt
1:07:12
about that
1:07:13
yeah I'm sincerely sorry yeah that you
1:07:17
you know that sort of apology which is
1:07:19
not what she did but that she got called
1:07:21
on it anyway and folded she just jumped
1:07:24
on him it's not what I said
1:07:26
no I know she didn't say that I didn't
1:07:31
say I'm sorry cuz you feel bad I said I
1:07:34
am sorry that this happened
1:07:35
period well the correct answer came from
1:07:39
Google CEO sundar pichai who was is
1:07:42
interviewed separately by ina freed
1:07:45
quickie thought may be a good place to
1:07:46
start his view tube and obviously it
1:07:48
comes up a lot what goes through your
1:07:50
mind when you watch a video like the
1:07:52
recent one you have this teenager what
1:07:54
appeared to be donning Muslim garb
1:07:56
spewing a lot of anti-muslim
1:07:58
anti-semitic homophobic hey what goes
1:08:01
through your mind when you see a video
1:08:02
like that and see that it's gotten
1:08:04
350,000 views and I'm thinking let me
1:08:07
see 350 times 15 CPM I'm thinking to
1:08:10
bingo I don't know all the details of
1:08:13
this specific
1:08:13
video but in general look coming all of
1:08:16
us in a none of us worn harmful content
1:08:19
on our platform last quarter alone we
1:08:22
removed 9 million videos from the
1:08:24
platform more recently we have
1:08:25
introduced you know just like today we
1:08:27
do this in search we you know we add
1:08:29
rank content based on quality and so
1:08:32
we're bringing that same notion and
1:08:34
approach to YouTube so that we can rank
1:08:36
higher quality stuff better and really
1:08:39
prevent borderline content content which
1:08:43
doesn't exactly violate policies which
1:08:45
need to be removed but that you can
1:08:47
still cause harm and so we are working
1:08:49
hard it's a hard computer science
1:08:52
problem it's also hard societal problem
1:08:54
because we need better frameworks around
1:08:55
what is hate speech what's not and how
1:08:58
do we as a company make those positions
1:08:59
of scale and get it right without making
1:09:02
mistakes I love that is just a hard
1:09:04
computer science problem that's my
1:09:06
favorite answer that's classic now I
1:09:08
want to mention something don't you
1:09:10
think a website that was just totally
1:09:12
kicked butt would be called the nine
1:09:14
million ooh
1:09:17
now no yeah that's a lot of videos well
1:09:25
that's and that's just in three months
1:09:27
as I said in the last year now quarter
1:09:29
quarter they said quarter mm-hmm holy
1:09:33
moly well that was that well actually
1:09:36
that was well interestingly in the in
1:09:40
the recode interview it was it was 8
1:09:42
million and I don't know if the sundar
1:09:44
was done before after but he said 9
1:09:46
million so but I think the CEO might be
1:09:48
I don't know the CEO of the whole kit
1:09:50
and kaboodle I don't know whoever's
1:09:51
right but yeah it's a lot then that's
1:09:53
their perch and that's their ten
1:09:55
thousand reviewers and whatever AI
1:09:58
thingies they have going yeah yeah sure
1:10:03
the AI thing is useless
1:10:04
it's yeah well just one of the many
1:10:09
reasons why we eleven seasons ago you
1:10:11
can turn it into years if you want to
1:10:13
chose a very different model so that we
1:10:15
could never get kicked off but
1:10:18
we vowed to consistent poverty and that
1:10:21
is why I'd like to thank you for your
1:10:23
courage to say in the morning to you
1:10:24
John
1:10:24
see Dvorak the more y'all ships at sea
1:10:30
boots on the ground feet in the air and
1:10:32
sucks in the water in the morning to the
1:10:39
troll room no agenda stream calm very
1:10:43
trollee today for some reason
1:10:44
oh yeah they got this very trollee I
1:10:47
mean all kinds of side topics I don't
1:10:49
know if they're paying attention at all
1:10:50
in there it doesn't seem like also in
1:10:53
the morning - how is it that guy again
1:10:56
who's this CSB guy is that my comic
1:10:59
strip blogger dippers comic strip
1:11:02
blogger that's what he'd put we want to
1:11:06
thank CSB for the artwork for episode
1:11:09
1145 the title of that was dumb meat and
1:11:12
it was the report hate speech tap here
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button which interestingly on many
1:11:18
podcast players actually does something
1:11:20
when you when you hit that it give it
1:11:23
does something gives you like show notes
1:11:24
or something doesn't report anything
1:11:27
there's a great piece of art we thought
1:11:29
it was very funny and we appreciate the
1:11:30
work that all of our artistic producers
1:11:33
and I said artistic producers do and no
1:11:36
agenda art generator comm where you can
1:11:38
always find some fun art for a project
1:11:41
maybe like no agenda shop comm then and
1:11:44
everyone seems to be able to make money
1:11:46
on that including the artist but really
1:11:48
it just brings our show which everyone
1:11:51
collectively produces toward the
1:11:53
forefront because it's rotating artwork
1:11:55
is an eye-catcher and it helps people
1:11:58
listen to the show and again thank you
1:12:00
CSB no agenda our generator dot-com now
1:12:04
how do we do this with our with our
1:12:06
donations doing well how do we do this
1:12:08
with the with the meetup donations that
1:12:10
there's no long notes but there's just a
1:12:12
couple the way we do it we do it the way
1:12:14
I think we've been doing it which is out
1:12:15
we'll do this segment and we'll do a
1:12:17
meet-up segment okay
1:12:18
and then we'll do it the other words we
1:12:20
do three donation segments okay good
1:12:22
good good
1:12:23
all right and it doesn't happen that
1:12:25
often that people complain about it I
1:12:27
saw like we were doing a meet-up a week
1:12:29
starting with that we start with
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sir hone ji hyung baronet of Mongkok
1:12:36
three and sixty one dollars and forty
1:12:39
cents he's our top executive producer
1:12:41
note father's days actually the 16th the
1:12:44
newsletter says the 15th
1:12:46
oops smiley face and hope yeah happy
1:12:50
Father's Day pops happy birthday to
1:12:52
fellow final Flag Day babies can I get a
1:12:56
jobs karma sir hold ji hyung baronet of
1:13:00
Mong Kok Hong Kong it says yeah of
1:13:03
course you can and we'd also love to get
1:13:05
a little boots on the ground reporting
1:13:07
from the crazy protests that are going
1:13:09
on in Hong Kong we have some flips okay
1:13:13
well let me give him as was a thank you
1:13:25
foster comes in as associate executive
1:13:27
producer at $350 and one penny hello
1:13:31
Adam and John this donations put me at
1:13:33
the required threshold for knighthood
1:13:34
alright the list don't know yes you know
1:13:38
wacky tight no whacky title needed my
1:13:40
birthday is Friday the 14th I'll be 24
1:13:43
I've been unemployed since last late
1:13:45
last year but at least I'm in talks with
1:13:48
my ideal employer prior to this I was a
1:13:51
operating a data center for Bitcoin
1:13:54
miners and the downturn in the market
1:13:56
forced us to close no boy I've been
1:13:59
trying out ooh BRR for the last eight
1:14:01
weeks and let me tell you it's not much
1:14:03
fun I really need to put into over 16
1:14:07
hours a day seven days a week to make
1:14:08
any money jobs karma and Sharpton
1:14:11
respect please
1:14:13
alright Nick and we'll see you with the
1:14:14
roundtable later on
1:14:19
our ESP ICT jobs jobs jobs and jobs
1:14:27
I go sabers toon no dollars in 42 cents
1:14:34
thanks to you and Adam for the
1:14:36
consistently high quality infotainment
1:14:39
you provide please send some jobs karma
1:14:42
to my daughters who are new to the grind
1:14:45
and and could use a bump to get
1:14:48
themselves where they want to be if you
1:14:51
could throw in a bingo boom boom from
1:14:53
the Reverend Manning just for fun the
1:14:55
Bix bingo jobs jobs and jobs produced
1:15:10
for $200 and 42 cents followed by
1:15:12
Patrick 9 in the Southern California
1:15:14
hills $200 Patrick knighted the SoCal
1:15:19
Hills here's the to the number three
1:15:21
best conservative podcast in the
1:15:23
universe I think his name is Patrick
1:15:25
night of the SoCal Hills oh well I think
1:15:29
it's Sir Patrick actually night of I
1:15:32
believe okay I think so
1:15:37
well it's still Patrick night of the
1:15:41
SoCal Jason Thole Opel Boulos a Poulos
1:15:48
totally totally appleís totally opposite
1:15:53
$200 Jason in the morning my smoking-hot
1:15:58
husband it says Jason hmm Jason okay
1:16:04
Jason and Emilio that makes sense yeah
1:16:05
my smoking-hot husband I can't thank you
1:16:07
enough for your twice weekly sanity
1:16:09
check we travel a lot for our respective
1:16:12
jobs and you guys keep us company for as
1:16:14
long for the long flights around the
1:16:16
world well thank you and wonder what
1:16:18
they're doing in the rare weeks we're
1:16:19
both off the road we'll often fall
1:16:21
asleep listening to your brilliant
1:16:22
deconstruction as Horowitz likes to say
1:16:26
the near the end of an DHE unplugged
1:16:28
which we know puts some people asleep
1:16:30
don't forget to donate
1:16:33
don't hate we've also punched our
1:16:35
extended family in the mouth so no
1:16:36
agenda is truly a family affair for us
1:16:38
is my mother-in-law Mary's birthday so
1:16:40
my husband and I would like to wish her
1:16:42
a very happy birthday and hope she's not
1:16:45
too embarrassed and smiles when she
1:16:47
hears this she is loved I'm also about
1:16:51
to embark on a potentially lengthy job
1:16:53
hunt so I'd appreciate some jobs Kermit
1:16:56
thanks again love and light Jason and
1:16:58
Emilio well love and light to you thank
1:17:01
you very much and I'd love to know what
1:17:03
what what jobs they have traveling all
1:17:06
around the world spooks somebody has to
1:17:23
infiltrate various communities yes I
1:17:26
think there at least there are at least
1:17:28
three spooks at the meetup yesterday oh
1:17:30
yeah yeah that wonder they ask you about
1:17:34
that because there's always funny
1:17:35
because you can talk to people who are
1:17:37
on the lookout not everybody is that's
1:17:39
the problem well though it doesn't
1:17:41
matter because you're not to do anything
1:17:43
about it anyway but it's kind of nice to
1:17:46
know I think anyone who one of I think
1:17:48
anyone who has an American uh a was an
1:17:53
American Dutch and was more like and the
1:17:59
Navy and Pat's like three now British
1:18:01
American and German or Dutch Passport
1:18:04
I think the Dutch want a Dutch passport
1:18:06
is great all around the world says and
1:18:08
spooks love that
1:18:10
there's also one one of our producers
1:18:12
just looked like men in black
1:18:14
he was just dressed it was totally he
1:18:15
had the black tie the black suit and
1:18:17
like spook well he could have been with
1:18:21
mi6 or something at long those lines is
1:18:23
that we're assuming or ghh GCHQ but the
1:18:28
question is did this did he
1:18:31
the spooky character donate you know I
1:18:38
have a deja vu and which makes I have a
1:18:41
total deja vu on this I remember having
1:18:43
this exact conversation about a meet-up
1:18:45
and about spooks and about donating and
1:18:48
I done I think they flashed me because
1:18:54
because when the men in black flash you
1:18:57
it shows up as a deja vu
1:18:59
I have not ever asked that question
1:19:02
there you go yes you have I'm pretty
1:19:05
sure you have I'd that's about spooks
1:19:08
how many think we're at the meetup but I
1:19:11
don't remember asking if they donate
1:19:16
freaking out what jobs car did you get
1:19:18
the jobs camera to uh Jason well just in
1:19:22
case jobs jobs jobs and jobs that's
1:19:29
karma executive producers for show
1:19:36
11:46 yes now do we want to do the the
1:19:40
meetups right now or do we break him
1:19:42
against do the now it's not that long
1:19:44
it's gonna be short sure you do them now
1:19:46
be easier yeah okay let me just bring it
1:19:49
up here okay cuz last night we did
1:19:57
everything we didn't even we wrote
1:20:00
everything which I get a pub oh it's
1:20:03
fantastic it was you know it was your
1:20:05
heavens it's a great pub it's just a
1:20:08
good pub yeah it's very famous and old
1:20:11
all right here's all our London meet it
1:20:14
should be a debt pub it's definitely
1:20:16
it's appropriate for us for sure that
1:20:19
not and we were clogging the
1:20:23
you know they're uh they're the kitchen
1:20:25
entrance and they were all better it was
1:20:27
nice that not at any point today we get
1:20:29
pissed off with noise we were making the
1:20:31
fire had the fire has oakland plug the
1:20:37
place and they're bitching and moaning
1:20:38
at us and then we noticed something in
1:20:41
seattle seattle and we've discussed this
1:20:44
on the show and and people from the area
1:20:47
have told us this seattle ice don't like
1:20:49
crowds the bar doesn't want our too many
1:20:53
people in my bar what I'm gonna make too
1:20:55
much money I don't know what we're to do
1:20:57
to get out out all right I think we set
1:20:59
the tone and and I think we they do good
1:21:02
business on us and we probably shut the
1:21:05
place down
1:21:05
I don't know Tina and I left before that
1:21:07
took place anyway some thanks from
1:21:09
producers who supported the show with on
1:21:12
the spot donations very interesting to
1:21:15
see I don't know if you witnessed this
1:21:16
when you did the meet up John a lot of
1:21:19
people went to the bank and got crisp
1:21:21
dollars to to hand in cash so the actual
1:21:25
dollars actual dollars many of them more
1:21:28
than I expected so Martin from the Welsh
1:21:30
valleys love and lady says $100 and
1:21:32
these were a crisp and it's nice when
1:21:34
you get a crisp a crisp dollar that's uh
1:21:38
you don't get those often no yeah did
1:21:41
the printing press must be nearby or
1:21:43
these or these crisp these crisp pound
1:21:46
notes the plastic another thing that's
1:21:47
new to me that that's weird you get a
1:21:51
kick out of that with oh my through it
1:21:53
yeah yes the Queen's ghost when you look
1:21:57
through that let's see nuked said in the
1:22:01
evening John Adam keep the good work and
1:22:03
not donated since I saw John in 2017 you
1:22:05
guys need to create a crypto address for
1:22:08
us anti PayPal folk a lot of requests
1:22:10
for that as usual please shout out to my
1:22:13
girls Elise and Saskia John you
1:22:17
pronounce Saskia as Saskia Saskia last
1:22:20
time which upset her she was five back
1:22:23
then now seven get Adam to pronounce
1:22:26
this Dutch name Saskia Saskia Saskia I
1:22:30
hope we did it right that's fifty pounds
1:22:32
thank you very much sir Bashir
1:22:35
okay sir Beshear came in with the 50
1:22:39
pounds thank you very much Carl Madden
1:22:42
from Enfield in London 60 pounds sir
1:22:46
Burton ah yes
1:22:49
he gave us 200 pounds and this was meant
1:22:52
as sanity insurance and he is on the
1:22:55
list with an additional donation today
1:22:57
which I might as well do now one hundred
1:23:00
and sixty-eight dollars and 80 cents I
1:23:03
just wanted to say thank you so much for
1:23:05
the show which is significantly
1:23:06
responsible for keeping a grip on my
1:23:08
sanity and amygdala I had the honor of
1:23:10
attending the London meet up tonight
1:23:11
which was amazing and such a buzz
1:23:14
thanks Adam and Tina for taking the time
1:23:16
out of your honeymoon to do so meant a
1:23:18
lot great people my first meetup but
1:23:20
definitely not my last I made two
1:23:22
donations today $200 to Adam in person
1:23:25
and 133 via PayPal 333 pounds total
1:23:30
which means I make executive producer
1:23:32
it's a yes he should be up one level
1:23:37
yes yeah so I can and please do this so
1:23:40
I can update my LinkedIn profile
1:23:41
apologies it was in two parts the man
1:23:44
wouldn't let me get any more cash out of
1:23:47
bad planning on my part oh yes he had to
1:23:49
go to the to the the ATM and he couldn't
1:23:52
get enough money out or something like
1:23:54
that
1:23:55
it also means I'm a knighthood level at
1:23:57
long last yeah added to my monthly
1:23:59
contributions over the last ten years
1:24:02
tried appallingly badly to explain to
1:24:05
Adam at the meet up but would like to
1:24:08
request the title of Sergey which is
1:24:11
pronounced as in the Indian clarified
1:24:12
butter French ghee GU isurugi
1:24:16
but it'll be GE e hopefully the
1:24:18
committee will see it fit anyway you
1:24:20
were busy people to be if he's gonna be
1:24:23
Sergey like the butter shouldn't be G H
1:24:25
EE that's key
1:24:27
yeah he just wants GE e you sure he
1:24:31
didn't say GH EE
1:24:32
no he wrote it down in several places so
1:24:36
no yes and thank you very much for your
1:24:39
courage and we will night.the Sergey
1:24:42
later on excuse me sir Luke Rayner if
1:24:47
you have not he's divine of London
1:24:49
southeast and the southeast 200 pounds
1:24:53
great to meet Adam and the keeper and in
1:24:55
the same place John and Mimi graced us
1:24:58
with their presence I hope you enjoyed
1:25:01
your brief stay in London feels great to
1:25:02
give you some cold hard cash
1:25:03
hopefully the Commission at the bureau
1:25:05
DeShawn's doesn't screw you too much
1:25:07
thanks for visiting Gitmo nation East he
1:25:10
also did professional photographs of the
1:25:13
meet up and they're all over Twitter and
1:25:15
also in the show notes sir Matthew
1:25:18
Wittering of Greenwich one hundred and
1:25:20
fifty dollars in US currency please find
1:25:25
the enclosed hundred fifty Gitmo dollars
1:25:27
for the value for value system I
1:25:28
appreciate some jobs jobs jobs karma
1:25:30
lieu that in a moment please credit sir
1:25:32
Matthew Wittering of Greenwich PS it was
1:25:35
brilliant to meet you Adam Tina John and
1:25:37
Mimi people have not forgotten your meet
1:25:39
up there Scott's $75 again printed out
1:25:44
requesting a deduced I was initially
1:25:50
going for a 6006 saggy boobs but rounded
1:25:54
it up to 75 all the best to you and Tina
1:25:56
I don't recall if he had saggy boobs
1:25:58
Robin night it was hard to read this
1:26:01
enough for his diocese couldn't really
1:26:06
read his handwriting was just a just
1:26:08
written on the envelope 100 pounds Robin
1:26:10
thank you very much
1:26:11
Marcus aka the boob owb and his
1:26:16
smoking-hot girlfriend
1:26:18
Jose Oh $100 yeah thank you very much
1:26:23
was there any note with that thanks for
1:26:24
the ongoing support with mental health
1:26:26
well being a regular sanity check in the
1:26:29
morning gentlemen and then we had sir
1:26:33
Black Knight sir Brian Barrow of Wootton
1:26:37
Bassett bearer of Barbados 200 pounds
1:26:40
and that was from I believe the whole
1:26:43
family Adam and Jonathan this donation
1:26:45
takes me step close to becoming a he
1:26:48
says count we count do I count I think
1:26:53
it means by calm small price to pay to
1:26:56
keep you on the air even better it
1:26:58
should keep me just ahead of Sir Luke
1:27:00
the love London
1:27:02
and also a nice card for Tina and myself
1:27:05
that's for our marriage is very
1:27:08
appreciated
1:27:09
Sir John of South London one hundred
1:27:12
dollars please accept this donation in
1:27:15
my latest installment or becoming a
1:27:16
baron if you're taking requests from
1:27:18
Knights please could I get some
1:27:20
relationship Karma for the summer
1:27:22
doldrums thank you for the great work on
1:27:23
No Agenda
1:27:24
apart from keeping us sane it is the
1:27:26
number one tool to keep our minds sharp
1:27:28
and be skeptical of all that we hear and
1:27:31
read ITM tyf why see John Kumar Sir John
1:27:36
of South London again with a nice
1:27:37
separate card for the keeper and myself
1:27:41
Sir Tim Chang fifty pounds from him I
1:27:45
spoke to all these people that fantastic
1:27:47
Rudolf Vesely 300 pounds so he also
1:27:49
becomes an executive producer he had the
1:27:53
longest note and almost done with them
1:27:55
and he also gave us some elephant
1:27:58
bracelets which was nice I think that's
1:28:00
for good luck for the for the for the
1:28:03
newly-married root of LC senior director
1:28:05
at Oracle consulting at this moment
1:28:08
trying to get a job in Dubai listening
1:28:12
from episode 1021 but haven't donated
1:28:14
yet so he wants to be douche bag we're
1:28:21
deducing you for that please tell Dvorak
1:28:23
to learn something about the micro
1:28:24
service architecture properly developed
1:28:27
and managed micro service based
1:28:30
solutions is more resilient than any
1:28:32
current legacy system and the 9-1-1
1:28:36
outage from episode 1101 definitely was
1:28:39
not caused by a micro service
1:28:41
architecture I'm assuming the 9-1-1
1:28:44
system is running on a virtualized
1:28:46
infrastructure that was 50 times
1:28:48
migrated from one provider to another
1:28:49
and now it's managed by people that
1:28:51
don't have documentation and don't
1:28:53
understand it I'll take that thank you
1:28:58
very much explanation mm-hmm but I'm not
1:29:02
going to accept the notion that micro
1:29:03
services architecture is the greatest
1:29:06
thing since sliced bread which he
1:29:07
implies dude named disdaining nerdy
1:29:12
voice
1:29:14
final two here which he'll appreciate
1:29:17
dude named Ben m5m hi Adam Tina and John
1:29:21
finding clothes an anonymous donation to
1:29:23
the best podcast in the universe of 100
1:29:25
pounds I worked for the BBC so do not
1:29:27
want to be mentioned by name yes we
1:29:29
understand that he gave me a lot of
1:29:30
interesting insight into what is going
1:29:33
on over there at the BBC and then
1:29:35
finally I know I'm sorry we have sir
1:29:40
Kevin strange 100 pounds and Vadra
1:29:43
London who has a stationary which is
1:29:50
I've never seen this before it has a
1:29:52
beautiful logo and at the top it's the
1:29:54
za pa have you ever heard of this outfit
1:29:59
it is the zombie apocalypse prevention
1:30:02
agency London 42 pounds from him thank
1:30:08
you very much and he wants some goat
1:30:11
Karma's that we have some relationships
1:30:12
karma jobs karma and goat Karma and
1:30:16
again thank you everybody who came to
1:30:18
the Meetup this was a great one for us
1:30:21
personally for Tina and myself it was
1:30:23
just really nice even me I just feel
1:30:25
very welcome and and it was as I said
1:30:29
the most diverse and I just I'm just I'm
1:30:31
just full of how wonderful it was jobs
1:30:33
jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for
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1:30:44
juicers and our meetup donations
1:30:47
remember we'll be doing another show on
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Sunday I will be coming to you from
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Northern Ireland you can support the
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show at vote.org slash a
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you know what's going on here in the UK
1:30:58
that's why you need to propagate our
1:31:00
formula is this we go out we're here
1:31:04
people in the mouth
1:31:11
what
1:31:15
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1:31:21
I think it's time to get to a lil local
1:31:24
or national politics yes please let's
1:31:27
start with Biden versus Trump in Iowa is
1:31:32
an ABC rear port president Trump heading
1:31:35
to Iowa today where Joe Biden was
1:31:37
waiting for him the former vice
1:31:39
president making his most direct attacks
1:31:41
yet the president is literally an
1:31:43
existential threat to America speaking
1:31:46
to voters in Ottumwa Iowa Biden said the
1:31:49
president undermines American values but
1:31:51
this is a guy who does everything to
1:31:53
separate and frighten people it's about
1:31:56
fear and loathing no president has done
1:31:59
something like this history lesson or
1:32:06
just want me to play the whole clip and
1:32:09
it's damaging Biden is eager to look
1:32:12
past his Democratic rivals in just one
1:32:14
speech today he references the president
1:32:16
76 times Trump is paying close attention
1:32:20
he was someplace in Iowa today and he
1:32:23
said my name so many times that people
1:32:25
couldn't stand that anymore
1:32:26
no don't keep saying it sleepy guy the
1:32:31
president taking a page out of his 2016
1:32:33
playbook attacking the former vice
1:32:35
president stamina and mental fitness he
1:32:37
looks different than he used to he acts
1:32:40
different than he used to
1:32:41
he's even slower than he used to be I'd
1:32:44
rather run against I think Biden than
1:32:46
anybody I think he's the weakest
1:32:48
mentally and I like running against
1:32:51
people that are weak mentally what do
1:32:54
you think the president says he would
1:32:55
rather run against you than anyone else
1:32:57
I don't
1:32:59
have no idea working for Joe Biden is
1:33:03
leading in the early polls but with 23
1:33:06
Democratic candidates to choose from
1:33:07
some Democrats we spoke with today
1:33:09
aren't sold yet
1:33:10
it's a person I really respect I loved
1:33:12
him as vice presidents but I think he
1:33:15
just has too much baggage he's
1:33:17
accumulated over the years a lot of
1:33:18
Democrats say it's time for some new
1:33:19
blood in the party what do you make it
1:33:24
reducibility stability we need somebody
1:33:29
that knows the roads in that a great
1:33:36
clip now I love the insults also I you
1:33:40
know has no one jumped on him for you
1:33:43
know talking about people who are our
1:33:46
mentally challenged know at this point
1:33:49
is they just the media is doing Trump's
1:33:53
bidding hug once again got it
1:33:56
yeah they're taking because this he's
1:33:58
outrageous with this comments about
1:34:00
Biden being sleepy Joe they got that in
1:34:03
there and mentally something's mentally
1:34:05
wrong with me slow put that in because
1:34:08
it's like it's colorful and indictments
1:34:10
up to report but if they're really out
1:34:12
to get Trump they're poor Joe they
1:34:17
really think they're doing themselves a
1:34:19
a service they think they're doing the
1:34:22
Democrats are serviced by pointing out
1:34:24
Trump's that that Trump says these
1:34:26
things
1:34:26
not realizing again it's a stupidity
1:34:30
thing yeah not realizing that this is
1:34:32
the case anything that sticks in
1:34:34
people's minds sleepy Joe he's mentally
1:34:38
incompetent he's nut he's dumber than he
1:34:40
used to be I'm surprised he hasn't
1:34:43
brought up the take in his head at the
1:34:44
top of his head off twice
1:34:47
shyam I don't think he knows know many
1:34:53
people know about that yeah it would be
1:34:57
a perfect following at mean they'd they
1:34:58
took the top of his head off twice I
1:35:00
mean well how can he be president who
1:35:02
knows what they put in there I can write
1:35:05
this stuff for him all day long
1:35:06
maybe it's something he's saving I'm not
1:35:08
sure media is just and they put these
1:35:13
packages together and it's typically
1:35:16
rias if you listen to him yeah I like it
1:35:20
now we had this woman or CBS did a
1:35:23
report on let's see what is the CBS one
1:35:26
because I have the eye I can give you
1:35:28
the or do you see the ice doors I've
1:35:30
Ortiz Ortiz is that who you're thinking
1:35:33
of no no Ortiz the baseball player was
1:35:36
shot
1:35:36
oh okay but I would I'm gonna just give
1:35:41
you an int I'm gonna do the ISOs I'm
1:35:43
gonna play the three isil's that I found
1:35:45
okay and then they'll show up in
1:35:47
different clips okay
1:35:48
oh nice oh this is like a treasure hunt
1:35:50
yes so this one here is his woman Lisa
1:35:53
Chang or Lisa she's a Chinese kind of
1:35:56
Chinese I know which Chinese American or
1:35:58
Chinese I can't tell but she's on CBS
1:36:00
and she can't print it she can't
1:36:03
pronounce Putin oh she's worse than the
1:36:07
other one poor one though he's over the
1:36:09
wall little girl who would used to be on
1:36:10
RT you couldn't say but she's get Putin
1:36:12
Putin Putin Putin this girl can't even
1:36:16
get that out listen to this with Russian
1:36:18
President Vladimir Putin later this
1:36:20
computer what did she say
1:36:22
she draws it together pull and then she
1:36:25
did I just was not my clipping her that
1:36:29
way she can't say Putin I'm here
1:36:31
together with Russian President Vladimir
1:36:32
Putin later woman from YouTube said
1:36:42
important yes good to say that
1:36:44
okay now we got a classic with the new
1:36:47
whoa whoa whoa from Bernie hold on hold
1:36:56
on hold on woo woo woo woo
1:37:00
how does that go again the Bernie thing
1:37:04
whoa whoa whoa whoa it's whoa he does he
1:37:07
does whoa he does well I have it here
1:37:09
let me see
1:37:09
yes tell me reversed this one so this is
1:37:12
sorry oops this one here whoa whoa whoa
1:37:18
whoa whoa and this is have to find it
1:37:24
I like this oh this is definitely this
1:37:26
is whoa whoa whoa whoa this is perfect I
1:37:30
think that's a contender that's a big
1:37:31
contender contender yeah and then
1:37:34
there's the perjury I so sir are you
1:37:36
worried about perjury yeah and that's
1:37:40
just another reporter shouting I think
1:37:41
yeah I think I think Bernie takes it
1:37:44
well I would say so too
1:37:46
okay
1:37:48
all right so let's go to the other disco
1:37:52
which we have Trump in Poland part one
1:37:55
yes what do you have lie or and
1:37:59
everything was right try at a Polish guy
1:38:02
there and then use doing sales today
1:38:06
Washington DC's saw and heard something
1:38:09
that hasn't happened in more than a
1:38:11
hundred years it was a staged military
1:38:15
flyover of the White House we shashank
1:38:18
on what it was all about a single f-35
1:38:22
fighter jet flew over the White House
1:38:24
celebrating two things President Trump
1:38:27
is fond of a good deal in a good show
1:38:30
he watched the display with Polish
1:38:33
President Andrzej Duda and their wives
1:38:35
just minutes before making this joint
1:38:37
announcement I was very pleased that
1:38:40
Poland announced the intent to purchase
1:38:43
32 american-made f-35 fighter aircraft
1:38:47
like you just saw the f-35 the most
1:38:50
expensive US weapons program ever is
1:38:53
projected to top a trillion dollars over
1:38:55
its lifespan an hour of flight time is
1:38:58
about $44,000 the defense deal with
1:39:01
Warsaw also includes the deployment of
1:39:04
one to two thousand US troops to Poland
1:39:06
which will cover the cost to support
1:39:08
them we'd be taking them out of Germany
1:39:10
or would be moving them from another
1:39:12
location do-dah had pushed for more US
1:39:14
service members and even suggested
1:39:17
setting out the permanent base called
1:39:19
for Trump he's going for legacy man
1:39:27
something something that can be changed
1:39:30
in 20 years because it's just like for
1:39:32
it Confederacy yeah no good report by
1:39:36
saying they haven't had a flyover since
1:39:38
for a hundred years is what she says
1:39:40
she's saying that in 1919 the Wright
1:39:44
brothers flew oh who the hell what
1:39:48
display was flying over the White House
1:39:50
in 1919 I'd like to know I'd like to
1:39:53
know - was it an f-35 I don't really
1:39:55
think so now did the f-35 hover did it
1:39:58
do its trick did it know
1:40:01
just flew over because I can do selfies
1:40:03
flew over slowly though yeah it can do a
1:40:05
very slow pass it's that I'm impressed
1:40:08
by the aircraft but otherwise it's a
1:40:10
most people things a piece of crap well
1:40:16
people who have to fly it think it's a
1:40:18
piece of crap
1:40:19
- Amanda course yeah well here's part
1:40:21
two of that report just one citizen
1:40:23
donut Rumpy up a Brussels the Polish
1:40:24
president talked about the need to beef
1:40:26
up security in the region in response to
1:40:29
heightened Russian aggression mr. Trump
1:40:31
said this about Moscow I hope that
1:40:34
Poland is going to have a great
1:40:35
relationship with Russia I think it's
1:40:37
possible I really do I think because of
1:40:39
what you've done in the strengths and
1:40:41
maybe we help also a president Trump is
1:40:46
expected to meet with Russian President
1:40:48
Vladimir Putin later this month on the
1:40:50
sidelines of the g20 summit in Japan and
1:40:53
with Chinese President Xi Jinping as
1:40:55
those two leaders try to work out a
1:40:57
trade deal Margaret wheeshes sharing at
1:41:00
the White House I got one clip from this
1:41:02
because there was one topic I was
1:41:04
particularly interested in in regards to
1:41:07
Poland as you recall the president when
1:41:10
he was still running for office went to
1:41:12
the Polish community and said within two
1:41:15
weeks I will have Poland in the visa
1:41:18
waiver program which is seeing is that a
1:41:21
member of the European Union it is
1:41:23
unbelievable that they have been shunned
1:41:26
from the visa waiver program you can't
1:41:28
just hop on a plane do a little está
1:41:30
paperwork which you can do online and
1:41:32
enter the United States
1:41:35
we have many thoughts on why that is I
1:41:38
would say I think the main thought is is
1:41:40
blamed on Israel yes well there's
1:41:43
there's a huge movement in the United
1:41:45
States even telling Congress Senate and
1:41:48
House representatives eave equally do
1:41:52
not do business with Poland because they
1:41:54
killed the Jews with their concentration
1:41:56
camps I'm paraphrasing but that's kind
1:41:59
of what it comes down to and here's what
1:42:01
Trump said I also want to congratulate
1:42:03
Poland for its progress on meeting us
1:42:06
criteria for entry into the visa waiver
1:42:10
program today our country signed a
1:42:13
preventing and come
1:42:14
batting serious crimes agreement a
1:42:17
significant and necessary step for
1:42:19
poland's entry into the program though
1:42:22
we still have some work to do we hope to
1:42:25
welcome Poland into the visa waiver
1:42:27
program very soon and that's a very big
1:42:30
deal yeah we'll see there's a lot of the
1:42:34
anti polish hatred in in our Congress
1:42:37
yes and they're the same guys who bitch
1:42:39
and moan about Trump cozying up to
1:42:41
Netanyahu yeah Yahoo of course is under
1:42:45
attack I have a the bonus clip is kind
1:42:48
of interesting cuz I think this is kind
1:42:50
of lame when Israeli voters go to the
1:42:53
polls in September they will have one
1:42:56
more factor to consider this time it's
1:42:58
the Prime Minister's wife Sarah
1:43:00
Netanyahu has agreed to plead guilty in
1:43:03
one of several corruption cases facing
1:43:05
the Netanyahu family our own Lieberman
1:43:08
explains the case against Sarah
1:43:11
Netanyahu involves the illegal ordering
1:43:13
of catered meals to the official Prime
1:43:14
Minister's residence in Jerusalem
1:43:16
Sarah Netanyahu along with a manager of
1:43:18
the residence ordered nearly $50,000 of
1:43:21
meals according to an updated indictment
1:43:23
filed in court Wednesday that's illegal
1:43:25
under Israeli law when there's already
1:43:26
an official chef at the residence and
1:43:28
prosecutors say there was one at the
1:43:30
time
1:43:30
Sarah Netanyahu pleaded guilty to the
1:43:32
lesser charge of unfairly taking
1:43:34
advantage of a mistake hmm now what kind
1:43:39
of what cabbage charges unfairly taking
1:43:42
advantage of a mistake it's something
1:43:47
lost they have something losers do take
1:43:51
advantage of the mistake is what she's
1:43:54
charging guilty is that that's an actual
1:43:57
charge did you hear the end I know but
1:44:01
is it really true what we hear the end
1:44:07
again that was that was mrs. Railly
1:44:09
voters go to the polls oh that's illegal
1:44:12
under Israeli law when there's Peres
1:44:13
Netanyahu along with the manager of the
1:44:15
residence order nearly $50,000 of meals
1:44:17
according to an updated indictment filed
1:44:19
in court Wednesday that's illegal under
1:44:21
Israeli law when there's already an
1:44:23
official chef at the residence
1:44:25
you say there was one at the time Sara
1:44:27
Netanyahu pleaded guilty to the lesser
1:44:29
charge of unfairly taking advantage of a
1:44:31
mistake this is Chris must be some
1:44:34
biblical shit what else could make sense
1:44:43
like that befuddle II hey Hillary showed
1:44:49
up on a podcast ah yes yes she's still
1:44:53
running in your mind she's still getting
1:44:55
ready she's ready to switch to the
1:44:57
cosmic weenie site contenders 2000 to
1:45:01
2020 which is linked we link to it all
1:45:05
the time in fact on the last newsletter
1:45:06
I believe it was linked to on one of the
1:45:08
photos and I still have it because I'm
1:45:14
just going by what witnesses right now
1:45:16
Biden is the I'm sorry Bernie's still
1:45:18
number one in my book mm-hmm
1:45:20
followed by Hillary if she chooses to
1:45:23
run she will gently immediately go to
1:45:25
that spot mm-hmm it's almost like a
1:45:27
French three-star chef before he opens
1:45:31
the restaurant they grant him to stall
1:45:33
ours and without even sight on the scene
1:45:35
right that's true well these true these
1:45:39
are producer produced clips from the
1:45:43
unredacted podcast two short ones this I
1:45:48
found to be the most interesting do you
1:45:50
tell them if they're if they say him
1:45:51
when I get to cybersecurity do Tom you
1:45:53
might want to do it yesterday I do i do
1:45:56
Emily because but I but I I worry that
1:46:00
it's probably too late by the time they
1:46:02
come to see me I would bet that the
1:46:04
leading candidates have already been
1:46:07
hacked this is the biggest crisis there
1:46:09
both their campaign accounts and if
1:46:11
they're in public office and they're
1:46:13
enough of a high-profile candidate their
1:46:16
Senate office or their congressional
1:46:18
office or their governor's office yeah
1:46:20
that's the big statement well that's
1:46:23
what I believe and she would be the one
1:46:25
to know considering the political spying
1:46:29
that she allegedly did between 2012 and
1:46:33
2016 I have to say allegedly
1:46:37
second clip is about Clooney do you want
1:46:39
to hear my crazy idea yes I love so this
1:46:42
is a crazy idea but I think it's
1:46:44
brilliant because I'm up with George
1:46:47
Clooney should run from Mitch McConnell
1:46:49
Senate seat that's a wonderful idea
1:46:52
there's not a chance in whatever that he
1:46:56
would do that
1:46:56
I mean and besides I think Amol would
1:46:59
probably you know kill him with the
1:47:02
twins and everything going on in their
1:47:03
lives but he'd be great killer we always
1:47:07
knew she was the handler but you don't
1:47:09
have to be that explicit about it
1:47:11
he'll Oh crazy well I missed it yeah not
1:47:19
just on the State Department and the
1:47:21
spying stuff and this is our local u.s.
1:47:25
politics so there's there's a important
1:47:30
piece of information that came out about
1:47:35
the Steele dossier as it relates to
1:47:39
these State Department and not nests and
1:47:43
this is when I believe John Kerry was
1:47:45
running the State Department and it's
1:47:49
the first one is about this the
1:47:53
Ukrainian guy
1:47:55
Khalil Nick I think his name is who was
1:48:00
but then one of the main reasons I think
1:48:01
mana 420 gel is because he was talking
1:48:05
to clinic and was giving colonic the
1:48:09
polling results the secret polling
1:48:12
results and passing on information even
1:48:14
though Manta fort wasn't convicted of
1:48:16
any of that stuff as far as I know that
1:48:18
was really the insinuations like oh you
1:48:20
know he was with clinic with clinic was
1:48:22
Russia ties to Russia oligarchs Russia
1:48:24
in a key finding of the mullah report
1:48:27
Ukrainian businessman at Constantine
1:48:29
killing Nick who worked for Trump
1:48:31
campaign chairman Paul Manafort is tied
1:48:33
to Russian intelligence but hundreds of
1:48:35
pages of government documents which
1:48:37
special counsel robert muller possessed
1:48:39
since 2018 describe clinic as a quote
1:48:43
sensitive intelligence source for the US
1:48:46
State Department who informed on
1:48:47
Ukrainian and Russian matters why Muller
1:48:49
steam Omid
1:48:50
that part of the clinic narrative from
1:48:52
its report and related court filings is
1:48:55
not known but the revelation of it comes
1:48:57
as the accuracy of Muller's Russia
1:48:59
conclusions face increased scrutiny
1:49:01
Solomon continues quote the incomplete
1:49:04
portrayal of Clem neck is so important
1:49:06
to Muller's overall narrative that it is
1:49:08
raised in the opening of his report the
1:49:11
FBI assesses clinic to have ties to
1:49:13
Russian intelligence
1:49:15
Muller's team wrote on page six putting
1:49:18
a sinister light on every contact clinic
1:49:21
head with manna for the former Trump
1:49:23
campaign chairman we got to get these
1:49:26
Millennials out of the news business
1:49:27
girl on ecstasy
1:49:29
I said we got to get these kids out of
1:49:33
the news business so along with that
1:49:35
goes goes the next clip which is tom
1:49:38
Fitton of Judicial Watch who is
1:49:41
apparently living with Sean Hannity now
1:49:43
to make sure he's on the air every night
1:49:45
well there was more than one dossier you
1:49:48
had the steel dossier and it looks like
1:49:51
you had a dossier created by Jonathan
1:49:55
Winer at the State Department using as a
1:49:57
source not only steel but folks like
1:50:00
Sidney Blumenthal Clinton aide or pal
1:50:03
and Cody Shearer who goes back for a
1:50:06
long time with the Clinton group this is
1:50:09
just incredible in the sense that
1:50:11
everyone's been thinking that it's the
1:50:13
Justice Department the FBI that's where
1:50:15
all the bad activities was taking place
1:50:17
the Secretary Pompeo needs to be working
1:50:20
with Ag bar as closely as any other
1:50:22
agency head in terms of decoding the
1:50:26
deep state conspiracy against then
1:50:28
Canada Trump and then President Trump
1:50:31
and they were they were desperate to get
1:50:33
this information out to their friendly
1:50:36
Democrats on the hill just before Trump
1:50:39
was inaugurated and it wasn't to help
1:50:41
President Trump it was try to destroy
1:50:43
him and undermine him everyone who I was
1:50:47
it was paying close attention to this
1:50:48
all jacked up oh yeah they're going down
1:50:51
people to go into jail and I don't think
1:50:53
so
1:50:53
I don't think I don't think so for a
1:50:56
second this is all great but no I really
1:50:58
don't think so
1:50:59
[Music]
1:51:01
but we'll see there are people much
1:51:03
smarter than you and I on the case yeah
1:51:06
that's probably true but doesn't mean
1:51:09
anyone's going this final political one
1:51:10
of the big there's one big store the big
1:51:12
story today mm-hmm the story that I like
1:51:14
is the one I'm gonna talk about a little
1:51:16
bit which is the census report and the
1:51:19
question and the scandal because they
1:51:22
have Gino Trump saying something you
1:51:23
know on the air and it's the census
1:51:26
report or just the census what what
1:51:28
examines the question that's on the
1:51:30
census that that's true what if you're
1:51:32
citizen if you're citizen or not yeah
1:51:34
yeah so we have two clips on this okay
1:51:37
first let's play this one this is the
1:51:39
contempt over set the census question if
1:51:42
the clip I'm thinking of it's a gem
1:51:44
across the capital another vote to hold
1:51:47
the Attorney General in contempt of
1:51:49
Congress and the Commerce Secretary to
1:51:51
the Democrats who lead the House
1:51:53
Oversight Committee said the man had
1:51:56
stonewalled efforts to investigate how a
1:51:58
controversial new citizenship question
1:52:00
ended up in the US Census it's designed
1:52:04
to intimidate and instill fear the
1:52:07
administration retaliated by exerting
1:52:10
executive privilege over the census
1:52:12
documents Congress wants as the
1:52:15
president defended the new question I
1:52:17
think when you have a census and you're
1:52:20
not allowed to talk about whether or not
1:52:22
somebody's a citizen or not that doesn't
1:52:24
sound so good to me the Supreme Court is
1:52:27
expected to rule this month on whether
1:52:29
the citizenship question can be included
1:52:31
in the 2020 census experts have warned
1:52:35
that the question will discourage some
1:52:36
immigrant families from filling out the
1:52:38
forms thereby Margaret's skewing
1:52:40
population data
1:52:43
okay alright that wasn't the clip I was
1:52:47
okay sets the background yeah play the
1:52:51
clip contempt well that's the one I just
1:52:54
senses that's the one I just played you
1:52:57
played contempt yeah contempt / senses
1:52:59
question oh okay that's weird
1:53:02
okay played the bonus clip Dennis's
1:53:04
bonus Trump on census I don't have oh
1:53:08
yes I do
1:53:09
no no exact privilege yes president
1:53:12
spoke about invoking executive privilege
1:53:15
let's listen well I think that and I'm
1:53:18
not overly involved in that that's
1:53:20
really a legal matter but I think when
1:53:22
you have a census and you're not allowed
1:53:24
to talk about whether or not somebody's
1:53:26
a citizen or not that doesn't sound so
1:53:28
good to me can you imagine you send out
1:53:30
a census and you're not allowed to say
1:53:32
whether or not a person's an American
1:53:34
citizen in Poland they say they're
1:53:36
either Polish or they're not right so I
1:53:39
don't want to get you into this battle
1:53:40
but it's it's it's ridiculous I think
1:53:44
it's I think it's totally ridiculous
1:53:47
that we would have a census without
1:53:49
asking but the Supreme Court is going to
1:53:51
be ruling on it soon I think when a
1:53:53
census goes out you should find out
1:53:55
whether or not and you have the right to
1:53:57
ask whether or not somebody is a citizen
1:53:59
of the United States so a controversial
1:54:02
decision there because it is not a
1:54:04
citizenship hole it is a population poll
1:54:07
and some critics say that this would
1:54:08
dissuade some people from being counted
1:54:10
the issue to him he actually seems to be
1:54:12
condoning the idea of knowing who's a
1:54:13
citizen and who not even though this
1:54:15
information is not supposed to be shared
1:54:17
that's not what someone taking the
1:54:19
census would believe if they were
1:54:21
filling out that question absolutely it
1:54:24
is is something that we have not seen
1:54:26
before and that is why the Supreme Court
1:54:28
is going to have to decide it you know
1:54:30
involved or not he has made his views
1:54:33
extremely clear I thought we had seen
1:54:36
this before I thought it was on the
1:54:39
census at one point in history wasn't it
1:54:41
it may or may not have been but I'm more
1:54:43
interested in this in this skewed
1:54:45
dispute presentation by CNN I don't know
1:54:49
who this woman is it was Dana Bash it
1:54:51
was just one day she was interviewing as
1:54:52
though she's someone to be interviewed
1:54:54
she's a reporter
1:54:55
reporters interviewing reporters but
1:54:58
well she's state she's married to she
1:55:01
used to be married to some no like
1:55:02
agency guy Dana Bash yeah I think so
1:55:07
could be yeah but she goes and she makes
1:55:09
this comment which sticks in the creo
1:55:11
was sticking some people's minds as the
1:55:14
first of all let's talk about this the
1:55:16
census thing after I bring up that least
1:55:19
is one point let me read from let me
1:55:21
read from the United States Constitution
1:55:23
article 1 section 2 it states quote
1:55:27
representatives and Direct Taxes shall
1:55:29
be apportioned among the states
1:55:31
according to their respective numbers
1:55:33
the actual enumeration shall be made
1:55:36
within three years after the first
1:55:38
meeting of the Congress of the United
1:55:39
States and win within every subsequent
1:55:42
term of 10 years section 2 of the
1:55:46
Fourteenth Amendment states
1:55:48
representatives shall be apportioned
1:55:50
among the several states according to
1:55:53
their respective numbers counting the
1:55:54
whole number of persons in each state
1:55:56
excluding Indians not taxed that's it
1:56:02
and and so she says she says it's not a
1:56:07
citizen poll it's not a poll
1:56:09
she says poll it also says it's not a
1:56:12
citizen poll it's a population poll it's
1:56:15
not a poll that's a count but when she
1:56:17
says that I want to read from the first
1:56:18
page of the Census Bureau's website the
1:56:23
first census counted the population to
1:56:24
provided information on population by
1:56:26
country by county in 1790 the census
1:56:30
also categorized white males by age
1:56:33
those under 16 and those aged 16 and
1:56:36
older
1:56:36
that's my race that's race hello race
1:56:39
that's not a part of the crowds job as a
1:56:40
white male yes and it's not a white male
1:56:43
poll it's a population poll however that
1:56:46
nobody said that over the years Congress
1:56:48
has authorized additional questions
1:56:50
enabling us to better understand the
1:56:52
nation's inhabitants and their
1:56:53
activities and knees in fact one of the
1:56:56
nation's founders James Madison
1:56:57
suggested that in the that the census
1:56:59
takers ask additional questions that
1:57:02
would help lawmakers better understand
1:57:04
the needs of the nation wait a minute is
1:57:06
just a population poll
1:57:09
and it goes on with all the examples
1:57:10
that they started asking about how many
1:57:12
children were born but to a specific
1:57:15
woman how many Hispanics there are the
1:57:16
growth of the Spanish population
1:57:17
computer usage apparently has gotten
1:57:20
into the pole the pole descent the
1:57:23
census the census itself but so this is
1:57:26
disingenuous to say it's not a it's not
1:57:28
a citizen polis population poll at all
1:57:31
but all of this is bullshit the only
1:57:33
thing that needs to be done is
1:57:35
enumeration counting it's only count
1:57:38
everything else that has been put in and
1:57:40
has been used before after the half this
1:57:44
was in the Constitution he's outside of
1:57:46
the scope it should be you you shouldn't
1:57:48
even have to say how many people live in
1:57:49
my house it's everyone to go out we
1:57:52
count everybody and go home that's it
1:57:54
yeah they gave a date with that ended
1:57:56
about the 1810 of course it did thing
1:57:59
but if you're going to ask a bunch of
1:58:02
questions I don't think that the
1:58:03
citizenship question is out of the
1:58:05
ordinary no so I'll take that but I'm
1:58:09
gonna take the side of the other side
1:58:11
and try to understand what they're
1:58:13
thinking I know what they're thinking
1:58:15
they're worried sick and they talk about
1:58:18
it the Democrats I'm talking about here
1:58:20
are worried sick that because the
1:58:22
question just appears that all this you
1:58:27
know the illegals the thirty million or
1:58:29
ten million or how many million you want
1:58:31
to count and won't answer the question
1:58:35
and they won't take they will eliminate
1:58:36
themselves from the polls mhm
1:58:38
by just by their nature of not being
1:58:40
suspicious and with good reason I'd say
1:58:43
but they're suspicious so they won't
1:58:44
take them and you know lower the numbers
1:58:46
in states like California and Texas in
1:58:50
areas where there's a large immigrant
1:58:53
community of illegals illegal aliens
1:58:57
I'll use the term and that then the
1:58:59
numbers will be skewed which will give
1:59:01
the whites more power over the over the
1:59:05
illegals in Congress and over the
1:59:08
Democrats in particular because these
1:59:09
people the Democrats in a funny way are
1:59:13
admitting that the illegals vote for
1:59:16
them almost exclusively and they need to
1:59:20
be counted so we can get more
1:59:22
you know we can apportion more
1:59:24
representatives to areas that are
1:59:26
largely illegal aliens that will
1:59:30
represent the Democrat Party in Congress
1:59:32
so it's both sides are kind of playing a
1:59:35
game here yeah they're not quite
1:59:37
bringing it out the way you know the
1:59:39
Republicans are playing the denial I
1:59:41
don't know I don't think so no we're not
1:59:43
trying to pull a stunt and the Democrats
1:59:46
aren't quite saying what I just said
1:59:47
which is yeah they're pulling a stunt to
1:59:50
screw us because all these illegal
1:59:51
aliens are voting for us illegally and
1:59:54
so we have to put up with these news
1:59:56
stories that aren't half-assed and women
1:59:58
like this anchor saying well it's not a
2:00:00
citizenship poll it's a it's a
2:00:03
population poll I like I like your Dana
2:00:08
Bash voice well was it Dana Bash that
2:00:11
was doing it sorry Hank er well strictly
2:00:16
taken from the Constitution it was just
2:00:18
a head count doesn't and it didn't
2:00:21
matter at the time if you were a citizen
2:00:24
or not I don't think they had passports
2:00:26
then when they did this maybe they do
2:00:29
right did they have passports I don't
2:00:32
know passports in fact there was the
2:00:34
dispatch force of disappeared throughout
2:00:36
history on and off again and apparently
2:00:38
the last global effort to globalize the
2:00:41
work you know globalized of all the
2:00:42
countries was just before work this is a
2:00:46
bad story I mean I I've researched it
2:00:48
somewhat but just before World War one
2:00:52
the passport situation was Shingen was
2:00:56
like really the thing because we were
2:00:57
global eyes are gonna be going great and
2:00:59
global trade was way up and the numbers
2:01:02
look good
2:01:02
but because there's no passports and
2:01:04
those citizenship some people were just
2:01:05
roaming around that's how that guy just
2:01:07
roamed over you know Austria wherever he
2:01:09
went to shoot that guy that started
2:01:11
World War one yes France fair for all
2:01:14
for like it kind of is now in Europe for
2:01:18
just floating around and there was no
2:01:22
passports were just they came back into
2:01:24
vogue after their World War one
2:01:27
hmm and this is leading this now we got
2:01:30
the same repeating of history and we're
2:01:32
gonna this lead to another war some sort
2:01:35
yeah you know there was a a brief period
2:01:40
in the history of the show or we were
2:01:41
talking about I think was in Texas said
2:01:43
you know I should probably run for
2:01:44
Congress and we we discussed this a
2:01:47
little bit and at a certain point if I
2:01:51
recall iirc that you said it would be
2:01:55
great because we would love to see the
2:01:56
slow corruption of Adam curry do you
2:02:00
recall this Alexandria Ocasio Cortes is
2:02:06
actually going through that process
2:02:08
right now and right and this clip is her
2:02:13
on the street on being interviewed on
2:02:15
the street of DC after she had just
2:02:20
voted for a pay increase for all of
2:02:23
Congress and these things are always
2:02:26
very interesting these pay increases the
2:02:30
population in general hates it and why
2:02:33
because well a Congress critter makes I
2:02:36
think a hundred and seventy thousand
2:02:39
dollars a year and this was a forty five
2:02:42
hundred dollar annual pay increase to
2:02:45
make up for what we call the cost of
2:02:48
living now it's always a tough one for
2:02:53
politicians because of course they want
2:02:55
more money but it's a lot of money
2:02:58
they're already getting you probably
2:03:00
need a lot of money to be a politician
2:03:03
and function in in DC position so she
2:03:07
voted for for the pay increase her
2:03:11
defense is mind-boggling especially with
2:03:16
the modern monetary theory that she and
2:03:19
her like-minded colleagues espouse which
2:03:22
is print as much money as we need green
2:03:25
new deal ten trillion
2:03:26
before that is exactly what creates the
2:03:31
disparity in wages and cost-of-living
2:03:33
when you inflate the money supply the
2:03:36
money becomes less valuable and you need
2:03:39
more of it
2:03:40
by goods and services and pay rent or
2:03:43
mortgages etc the the it is a hidden tax
2:03:47
it diminishes the value of your money
2:03:50
that's so for anyone to on one hand say
2:03:55
all we really need to you know which we
2:03:58
need this pay increase but on the other
2:03:59
hand wants to inflate the money supply
2:04:01
by a factor of 100 it's it's kind of
2:04:05
insane but listen to how she defends
2:04:08
voting for this pay increase that's why
2:04:10
there's so much pressure to turn to
2:04:12
lobbying firms and to cash in on one
2:04:15
member service after people leave
2:04:16
because so it may be politically
2:04:22
convenient and it may make you look good
2:04:25
in the short term first thing we're not
2:04:27
voting propane we should be fighting for
2:04:29
pay increases for every American worker
2:04:31
you should be fighting for a $15 minimum
2:04:34
wage to inflation everybody in the
2:04:37
United States with the salary with with
2:04:39
the wage gets a cost-of-living increase
2:04:42
members of Congress retail workers
2:04:45
everybody should get cost-of-living
2:04:47
increases to accommodate to the changes
2:04:48
in our economy and then we don't do that
2:04:51
it only increases the pressure on
2:04:53
members to exploit loopholes like better
2:04:55
training loopholes to make it on the
2:04:57
back she's gonna say this again I just
2:05:01
want you to understand what she said by
2:05:03
not having enough money as a politician
2:05:05
members is what she means by not having
2:05:08
enough money for the cost of living at
2:05:11
your 170,000 base salary now it it is
2:05:15
bad because this makes members want to
2:05:18
take high paying Lobby jobs after they
2:05:21
leave and to use insider trading
2:05:24
loopholes which we've talked about
2:05:25
extensively on this podcast as you are
2:05:28
immune from insider trading if you make
2:05:31
laws and you have a law on the books oh
2:05:33
you know about someone in Congress and
2:05:35
yeah it's going to affect the sector and
2:05:38
you buy or sell stock based upon that it
2:05:40
is completely legal for them to do as
2:05:43
long as they report it which is you know
2:05:45
recorded somewhere in the basement of
2:05:46
the Library of Congress they refuse to
2:05:49
put it there these collections on the
2:05:51
way online exactly that's
2:05:53
scandal but she's saying she only been
2:05:56
that she's been there a couple months
2:05:58
she's already since dirty knows she
2:06:01
already knows about the loopholes and
2:06:02
the scams and she'll double down on it
2:06:04
economy and then we don't do that it
2:06:07
only increases the pressure on members
2:06:09
to exploit loopholes like new polls to
2:06:12
make it on the back and that's my issue
2:06:22
is that it's superficial you know you
2:06:25
can you can vote against pay increases
2:06:27
all you want it's in my opinion voting
2:06:30
against tap a voting against them it's
2:06:33
not even it's not even like a raise its
2:06:37
cost-of-living adjustment you can vote
2:06:38
against the cost-of-living adjustment
2:06:40
all you want and it'll look good on its
2:06:42
surface but it will every cost-of-living
2:06:44
adjustment that that gets by pass is
2:06:48
voting to increase the pressure to
2:06:50
exploit loopholes and legal loopholes to
2:06:53
lean on other ways to enrich myself
2:06:56
through service and so my whole side of
2:07:00
it is like it may not be optics
2:07:03
it may not be great optics it may not
2:07:06
like
2:07:08
look the best and in terms of your
2:07:11
opponent's can use it as a political
2:07:12
exploit as a political issue but in
2:07:14
substance you might as well be
2:07:16
transparent about how cost of living
2:07:18
increase fight for a cost of living
2:07:19
increase for all American workers
2:07:22
peddling minimum wage to a
2:07:23
cost-of-living increase and then on top
2:07:25
of it to close all of the loopholes that
2:07:27
a lot of people use when it comes to you
2:07:30
know who's sitting on a committee and
2:07:31
knowing what legislation may be coming
2:07:34
down the the loophole and changing your
2:07:36
stock holdings or letting you know if
2:07:37
these are real issues and I don't think
2:07:40
that voting against the talks of Liberty
2:07:41
is going to negate the actual issues in
2:07:44
fact it only increases the pressure for
2:07:46
people to explain if I were a member and
2:07:52
I looked at these objects
2:07:55
I would immediately FOIA her stock
2:08:00
holdings she is she mentioned it too
2:08:02
many times she's on committee she chairs
2:08:05
a committee I'd like to know
2:08:13
well I think she chairs the subcommittee
2:08:15
she still is she still is in committee
2:08:17
she knows what she knows what's going on
2:08:20
and she knows all about this rule and
2:08:21
somebody and these she's run you know by
2:08:23
this justice Democrat the team the
2:08:25
number one team that the go-to guys
2:08:27
right who once again were not there when
2:08:30
she made the statement when she's loose
2:08:33
she's loose on the streets probably
2:08:34
lectured her about it so she knows about
2:08:36
it and they know about it and so they in
2:08:38
fact they may be how do they deal with
2:08:40
their portfolio yeah you know it depends
2:08:45
on what you how you're gonna define
2:08:46
insider you give you if you just follow
2:08:49
legislation and then you reinvest or not
2:08:52
invest it's not the same as being an
2:08:53
insider it is even though it is for the
2:08:56
legislative people but if you're being
2:08:59
tipped off by them and it's not illegal
2:09:02
for them to do it I think is legal for
2:09:04
you to do the trading to so they're
2:09:07
probably I'm not saying I'm not saying
2:09:08
it's illegal I just like to not I just
2:09:11
like to know it should be public let's
2:09:13
just she mentioned it that's the problem
2:09:16
is she mentioned it let's find out about
2:09:17
it well you can go into the archives and
2:09:20
you can get it but someone has to go and
2:09:22
do the work get to go into Washington DC
2:09:24
and then go down and do that might not
2:09:29
be a bad trip to make I might do it
2:09:30
myself
2:09:32
[Music]
2:09:35
[Applause]
2:09:38
[Music]
2:09:47
yeah we do a few people to think before
2:09:50
I go that Washington DC to spend my time
2:09:53
and I'm already purchasing a ticket
2:09:56
online for you I'd love to see you go do
2:09:58
that
2:09:58
you're kidding that's great do it I mean
2:10:02
I've got you know things I could do in
2:10:03
Washington DC okay areas again G Burton
2:10:07
G as in ye is a 168th this is 160 880
2:10:11
donation a different note uh oh by the
2:10:14
way so one of the things about today's
2:10:16
show we mentioned Father's Day in the
2:10:18
newsletter so Adam is going to read
2:10:20
alongside as I go through these and we
2:10:22
have a Father's Day call-out and we have
2:10:24
a few of them I want to mention the dad
2:10:26
I said I would it was an open-ended
2:10:28
donation that you could donate any
2:10:30
amount and then say hello to dad you do
2:10:32
not have to do ghee because I did him in
2:10:34
the meet up notes we read that one so
2:10:36
you can go straight to sir her play note
2:10:38
yeah I read the same note that's the one
2:10:40
I read okay sure herb lamb follows him
2:10:42
up with $160 and sixteen cents and he is
2:10:45
gonna oh he's gonna be an earl we should
2:10:48
put him on the upgrade list oh let me
2:10:50
see is he Oh
2:10:51
is he on the list I don't know if I saw
2:10:53
him there my talent for vine of Georgia
2:10:56
- Earl of Georgia and such okay yes this
2:11:01
was not on the list so I will add this
2:11:03
title change and he has a Father's Day
2:11:07
double boob donation I think is what
2:11:09
this is eight oh eight plus eight oh
2:11:11
eight for Father's Day yeah and it is
2:11:15
sir herb lamb becomes Earl okay
2:11:17
oh no call out but maybe it's for
2:11:20
himself double the set of boobs
2:11:22
yes sir Shawn and Moyock North Carolina
2:11:25
$100 um Evan McLean $100 for oh yes we
2:11:32
do have a report we have five I know
2:11:34
that's four reports
2:11:35
Kevin McLane Kevin McLane is gonna
2:11:37
report in from LDL Darfur region of Abu
2:11:41
Dhabi okay hold on a second what we need
2:11:43
do we have new report tests sound effect
2:11:45
or something let me see
2:11:53
report from aldolpho region of abu dhabi
2:11:55
it's hot and there's a lot of sand thank
2:12:02
you for that report
2:12:03
it's a report well McLain $100 Rob Van
2:12:07
Dyke $100
2:12:09
Alexander soles Berger 808 which I I
2:12:14
would think would be bunch of Father's
2:12:16
Day donations I'm gonna encourage people
2:12:18
to be a Sunday show as Father's Day
2:12:19
donate a 0:08 and Father's Day it's a
2:12:22
great idea
2:12:23
Paul Webb I do say so myself $75 happy
2:12:26
fathers days and my dad Chris Webb who
2:12:28
overcame a heart transplant last year
2:12:29
I'm happy Father's Day to Jon and Adam
2:12:31
gutted I missed the lung that meet up
2:12:33
Sir Paul from tweaking him we're gutted
2:12:35
as well Paul but thank you very much
2:12:38
anonymous $75 I was in honorary day I
2:12:43
guess he said oh yeah yeah thank you
2:12:48
watch people to read IBM in the
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Holocaust by Edwin black that your buddy
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is gonna read holy cow isn't that your
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friend yeah he's an old friend of mine
2:12:56
yeah it's a good read great
2:12:58
investigative writer he's done stuff
2:13:00
that is jaw-dropping I don't see him
2:13:04
anymore I don't know you know I should
2:13:06
track him down
2:13:06
well he'd be a good interview there you
2:13:08
go Daniel Walraven 75 I think it's it's
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volt ralphing lost dutch boat laughing
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yes bull Ruffin Scott McCleary 16 a long
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time boner first-time donor could I get
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a D douching and a surgery Karma for my
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father deducing now car Malaysia
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you've been deduced Matthew Mungle 69
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sir phenom in Appleton Wisconsin 62 Oh
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for instance a pond or a condo raining
2:13:46
caramel put that at the end
2:13:47
Christopher Decker 5678 Gavin Haberfeld
2:13:52
field 51 51 no nation there
2:13:56
Benjamin Doolin 51 Robert deck and now
2:14:00
the falling field was $50 donors you
2:14:02
didn't get a lot of donations
2:14:03
Robert luckily we had the meet up now
2:14:06
Robert Daken II and Fairfax Virginia Jon
2:14:09
Farriss and liberal Kansas Thomas Burke
2:14:13
50 in person known are a I go boom in
2:14:18
London a cuisine Meetup
2:14:20
no no hi Kimberly Redmond in Toronto
2:14:23
Ontario Robert Bruckner Kevin Silverman
2:14:26
in 7 Maryland Robert Kerr back in
2:14:30
essexville Michigan
2:14:32
Heather Rodriguez in Stockton California
2:14:36
you can wait 10 Hoffa in Pine knocker
2:14:39
very good Cassidy Eastwood in Oklahoma
2:14:43
City Oklahoma
2:14:44
she is leg in San Diego California
2:14:48
marked Johnson and Aurora Colorado
2:14:52
Brandon savoir in Port Orchard
2:14:54
Washington and last Robert Weber of Lake
2:14:57
Forest California and Dame Patricia
2:14:59
Worthington in Miami Florida let me
2:15:01
gonna go down the list just see there's
2:15:03
any call-outs for anyone to do to do i I
2:15:09
do have a follow on note from Dame Lisa
2:15:15
you remember her
2:15:16
from the last show was an incident and
2:15:19
she works for Liberty nation.com and she
2:15:23
did have a follow up which I thought was
2:15:25
good to share unless you have anything
2:15:26
else and he call-outs there that's it
2:15:27
but you got
2:15:28
I've not seen anything she says
2:15:33
Liberty nation.com pole fittingly while
2:15:35
flying across the conveyor not sure
2:15:37
everyone was happy when I oh okay I
2:15:39
first heard your response to the Liberty
2:15:41
nation.com poll fittingly while flying
2:15:43
across the country I'm not sure everyone
2:15:45
was happy when I burst into loud
2:15:46
spontaneous laughter while listening to
2:15:48
the show you two are a riot a few
2:15:52
itsy-bitsy items to clean up I am NOT
2:15:54
number two at Liberty nation I am
2:15:57
editor-in-chief
2:15:58
I am number one she was number two I did
2:16:03
I said I said I said she's not the
2:16:06
number one and number two because I
2:16:07
think she didn't found the company but
2:16:10
oh you can say well yeah that you the
2:16:12
atom would be the type that would always
2:16:14
consider a founder number one yes I
2:16:16
don't know what I'm lying about yes so
2:16:19
she is the Big Kahuna editor-in-chief I
2:16:21
will tell you for certain we did not
2:16:22
step on the pole I double double shark
2:16:25
this double check this with Marc Ange
2:16:29
elitists I think of his managing editor
2:16:31
at Liberty nation he did say his
2:16:33
feelings are a bit hurt though because
2:16:35
he actually does listen to no agenda in
2:16:38
the UK and when one of you there will be
2:16:40
me said the author of the article who
2:16:42
was Mark only listened to five minutes
2:16:44
he got a bit miffed my point exactly
2:16:53
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2:16:54
let me see personally I hope you guys
2:16:57
kiss and make up perhaps play him a
2:16:59
karma jingle that might do the trick I
2:17:00
tried to get him to go to the meetup but
2:17:03
he was just in London covering the
2:17:04
anti-trump chlorinated chicken protests
2:17:07
oh I know well okay well anyway oh he's
2:17:10
not eating one that's interesting he's
2:17:12
in the UK not in London yeah they're
2:17:14
pretty bitching or not just in London
2:17:16
but around they were there bitching
2:17:17
about us shipping our chickens yes we
2:17:21
chloric we drop him in it's not
2:17:23
chlorinated it's a chlorine bath that
2:17:25
the chickens go through to kill
2:17:27
salmonella and make the chickens you
2:17:29
know
2:17:30
well it's a slogan here no it's a brexit
2:17:33
slogan that's why it's being used here
2:17:35
they just say oh yeah you want
2:17:36
chlorinated chicken it's that you hear
2:17:38
it every 10 minutes in the media in the
2:17:41
UK and the reason why is the EU the
2:17:45
European Union's doesn't allow
2:17:47
chlorinated chicken and they just give
2:17:49
it to you with the salmonella so people
2:17:51
are very worried that is natural when
2:17:54
they breaks it then them they'll only be
2:17:57
eating chlorinated chicken it's one of
2:17:59
those guessing although I don't know
2:18:02
this is a fact but it would seems like
2:18:04
because this equipment is being
2:18:05
manufactured and sold by the group
2:18:07
boatload that the chicken in coming out
2:18:11
of those those robot factories in
2:18:13
Holland largely yeah I have a gamma
2:18:16
radiation exposure at the end of the
2:18:19
line and you can blast the chicken with
2:18:21
some gamma radiation and that which we
2:18:23
should be doing here and that would kill
2:18:26
that would do the job of the chlorine
2:18:28
well I believe it only it would
2:18:30
internalized it too now I think we we
2:18:32
concluded on the last show it's a dumb
2:18:33
meat and I think everyone is very dummy
2:18:38
by the way guys liberty nation is a
2:18:40
conservative website well we do have to
2:18:43
staunch libertarians on our writing
2:18:45
staff of 12 authors we are primarily a
2:18:47
run-of-the-mill group of deplorable
2:18:49
because we are Liberty nation I kind of
2:18:52
feel live-and-let-live is the best
2:18:54
policy
2:18:55
I am curious as to why you thought we
2:18:57
were primarily a libertarian site well
2:18:59
because on your site it says you got
2:19:01
libertarians and gays and blacks and
2:19:03
Jews and whatever so I figured you
2:19:05
couldn't be conservative that doesn't
2:19:07
sound right
2:19:09
we were just questioning as usually ok
2:19:13
what well I mean I don't know one way or
2:19:17
the other I'm gonna bail I'm paying more
2:19:18
attention to that site it's nice it's
2:19:20
good site to candles things properly
2:19:23
well I think you said they seemed more
2:19:26
libertarian it doesn't matter it's just
2:19:27
a label because I think that I don't
2:19:31
wanna yeah no one cares
2:19:34
you got good information fine
2:19:37
yeah well she's editor in chief she's
2:19:38
number one she has every right to she's
2:19:40
a dame editor in chief as usual you guys
2:19:43
were right
2:19:44
and I queried the staff as to whether
2:19:45
this poll focuses on only conservative
2:19:47
podcasts or podcasts conservatives love
2:19:50
to download and listen to it is indeed
2:19:53
what they prefer to listen to so we
2:19:54
added an Asterix or a stick as as
2:19:59
what's-his-face would say al sharpton a
2:20:03
stick we add an a stick in the story for
2:20:06
clarification with a hat tip - no agenda
2:20:08
they edited went back and edited very
2:20:10
good so yes now she has one question
2:20:14
just a couple of other beautiful things
2:20:16
to say but she says yes Dame is nice but
2:20:18
if we're dishing out title she'd like to
2:20:20
be known as a lady and I say I think if
2:20:25
your Dame then you by definition are
2:20:27
lady so-and-so because a knight is sir
2:20:30
so a Dame is a lady and I think lady
2:20:33
Lisa sounds good okay so it should be to
2:20:37
refer to it's fine okay would you put
2:20:40
that in the notes yeah we'll do that so
2:20:43
the damn River Dame wants to be referred
2:20:46
to as lady that's fine yeah we got it
2:20:48
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2:20:50
the peerage committee do you heard an
2:20:52
ad-hoc well thank you to everyone who
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oh pretty shortly sweet and easy to neut
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today is June 13 2019 here's our
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birthday for everybody here the best
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important one sir herb lamb has hopped
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his status he now becomes pearl of the
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then poach end of podcast we appreciate
2:24:12
everything you do for us as well sir
2:24:14
herb lamb and we've got to for the
2:24:17
knighting table oh wait where's my story
2:24:22
you brought this yeah I got it
2:24:27
there we go you got yours here's mine
2:24:29
okay perfect
2:24:32
up here on the podium to the roundtable
2:24:34
Nick Foster and the key Burton both of
2:24:37
you gentlemen are
2:24:40
welcome here at the round table of our
2:24:42
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2:24:44
your support of the program the amount
2:24:45
of $1,000 or more and I am proud to
2:24:48
pronounce 2kv as sir Nick Foster and
2:24:51
surkhi Nights up the No Agenda round
2:24:54
table we've got here for you hookers and
2:24:56
blow rentboys and Chardonnay cookies and
2:24:58
vodka we got early times and bf4 English
2:25:01
muffins with butter and honey we got
2:25:02
harlots and Haldol beers and blunts
2:25:04
cowgirls with coffin varnish breast milk
2:25:06
and Pavlin bucket and vanilla and
2:25:08
geishas and Sakae rubinettes woman and
2:25:09
Rose a bong hits and bourbon ginger ale
2:25:12
and gerbils and of course mutton and
2:25:14
Mead head on over to no agenda
2:25:16
nation.com slash rings and give Erica
2:25:19
sillier information he will get the ring
2:25:21
out to you as soon as possible with your
2:25:23
sealing-wax your official certificate
2:25:26
and for those knights who I met at the
2:25:28
meetup yesterday who never really put in
2:25:32
for it I think you should there's a
2:25:34
couple tonight I never I never gonna ask
2:25:36
for it I think you should do it
2:25:38
especially you see how many people did
2:25:40
have their rings at the meet up so
2:25:44
please do that love shoulder boss yeah
2:25:46
you deserve it please do that a quick
2:25:49
list of the meetups that we have coming
2:25:50
up Copenhagen June 15th the fourth of
2:25:53
July in Seattle June a July 9th
2:25:55
Knoxville Tennessee what are you gonna
2:25:58
bet sir Patrick will be there Atlanta
2:26:01
Georgia on July 13th another South West
2:26:04
London meetup on July 20th and on the
2:26:06
20th a brand new one entered Buffalo New
2:26:08
York penetration testing I got an urgent
2:26:18
I got an urgent report from Sweden just
2:26:20
came in from Eric Wow
2:26:25
let me let me read this to you he said
2:26:28
as of Monday on Monday June 10th the
2:26:31
following happened in Sweden that was
2:26:33
probably not or underreported you ready
2:26:36
for this sure this is one day in Sweden
2:26:40
bomb threatening english-speaking EU
2:26:43
citizen carrying three passports shot by
2:26:45
police at Malmo Central Station man shot
2:26:48
at legacy Oh outside of Stockholm female
2:26:51
train conductor salted by two men or
2:26:53
or a bro pedestrian run over during
2:26:56
police pursuit in Stockholm man shot and
2:26:58
killed in Malmo shooting in another part
2:27:01
of Malmo attempted murder shooting in 10
2:27:03
Stockholm shooting in gut Sunda Uppsala
2:27:07
another shooting in Uppsala later in the
2:27:09
day in connection with the fight
2:27:10
involving 10 to 15 people man found
2:27:13
stabbed in Salem outside soccer
2:27:15
Stockholm another man taken to hospital
2:27:17
after knife fight between neighbors
2:27:19
outside Helsingborg two critically
2:27:22
injured after knife fight in connection
2:27:23
to a softball game in lung be two more
2:27:26
bombings in Malmo at late night
2:27:28
this leaves out the large bombing of an
2:27:30
apartment building in lick coping
2:27:32
previous to the previous Friday which
2:27:34
injured 25 and damaged 250 apartments
2:27:37
did you hear any of this
2:27:39
of course not especially the apartment
2:27:42
being blown up no this is what you get
2:27:45
when your news is focused on Bojo with
2:27:48
the Mojo and orange man bad it's
2:27:50
pathetic no wonder you're losing your
2:27:54
ass cuz you're not reporting nose orange
2:27:57
man bad well yeah it sounds like they
2:28:03
have issues that need to be resolved
2:28:06
societal based issues dig a latarian yes
2:28:11
yes well the one piece of news that I
2:28:14
thought was very important that I'd read
2:28:16
that's why I sent the bonus clips off
2:28:17
which is this which happened just read
2:28:19
just as the show is being produced and
2:28:21
needed to be discussed a little bit
2:28:24
which is the ship to two ships being
2:28:28
attacked variously reported as by
2:28:31
torpedoes then there were shells and
2:28:35
nobody released got the story straight
2:28:36
it'll be straight not as after this show
2:28:38
is done but and by the way this reflects
2:28:44
almost to a tee the kind of stuff that
2:28:48
was in the news short ones 13 episodes
2:28:52
season of Rubicon for following a
2:28:55
developing story out of the Gulf of Oman
2:28:56
the US Navy says its responding to
2:28:59
reports of attacks on shipping
2:29:01
they're a statement goes on to say that
2:29:04
US naval forces in the region received
2:29:06
two separate distress calls this morning
2:29:08
local time it adds that ships in the
2:29:11
area are rendering assistance the news
2:29:13
is sending oil prices up sharply US
2:29:16
crude prices surged as much as four
2:29:18
percent as details of the reports first
2:29:21
emerged they're currently up more than
2:29:22
two percent as you can see see their
2:29:25
international diplomatic editor Nick
2:29:26
bothersome following developments from
2:29:28
here in London but first want to go to
2:29:29
ghoul disease she's in Abu Dhabi ghoul
2:29:32
what we know right now in terms of
2:29:34
confirmed detail well it's a developing
2:29:36
story but at this point we know that an
2:29:38
incident took place on two shipping
2:29:40
vessels in the Gulf of Oman and in that
2:29:44
particular in these incidents we know
2:29:46
that one oil tankers was involved and a
2:29:49
chemical vessel carrying chemical
2:29:51
products was involved the company that
2:29:53
owns the chemical product shipping
2:29:56
company that that vessel says that their
2:29:59
ship was attacked twice with some sort
2:30:02
of shell we know at this point that 44
2:30:06
people crew members of those two ships
2:30:08
have been rescued by the Iranian Navy
2:30:13
mm-hmm okay yeah what's your assessment
2:30:17
of the system in possible no I think it
2:30:29
could be a how about this how about
2:30:32
market myristic how about market
2:30:34
manipulation he doing this
2:30:35
how about market manipulations part of
2:30:38
it that would be that's the reference to
2:30:39
rubicon yes in the and the oil price was
2:30:42
already going down way too low
2:30:44
uncomfortable we can't have any of that
2:30:46
so let's shoot a shipful oil or maybe
2:30:49
I'll just say this shit you wouldn't
2:30:51
have we've seen video of you seen rap
2:30:53
yeah we spoke up like the Gulf through
2:30:55
Tompkins that was a classic he was you
2:30:59
look into that and we'll have to say
2:31:00
read something funny we'll have to see
2:31:02
I mean I like you know going back in
2:31:03
time I do have a clip from 22 2010 which
2:31:07
I just I ran into a cache of old
2:31:11
archived material from the exhume from
2:31:15
the
2:31:15
recorders that I used back in 2010 hmm
2:31:19
and I said what's on here and it's just
2:31:21
I had to read it I'm in to produce them
2:31:23
but I got a kick out of this one because
2:31:25
I don't know that NBC it rock
2:31:30
Rockefeller Center has they have a store
2:31:32
yeah and I don't know that they sell
2:31:35
Donald Trump memorabilia but apparently
2:31:38
in 2010 according to O'Reilly who
2:31:41
ridiculed this when he had a TV show
2:31:42
there's O'Reilly 20 it says 10 10 by the
2:31:45
way according to O'Reilly that would
2:31:48
this was the price in 2010 this is what
2:31:50
they were doing NBC News continues to
2:31:52
support the president just about every
2:31:53
way at their headquarters in Manhattan
2:31:56
the NBC store is selling Obama
2:31:58
merchandise doll shirts mugs you can get
2:32:04
them all at the NBC store didn't see any
2:32:07
Sarah Palin stuff there I didn't see
2:32:09
bold fresh but they may have been sold
2:32:12
out it's the Obama fetish from back then
2:32:16
it was great it was a good times
2:32:17
everyone loved him we were feeling good
2:32:18
it was hope and change it was fabulous
2:32:20
hope and change Jay have you with no
2:32:24
hope in a pocket full of change you know
2:32:26
I recommended you you watch this
2:32:29
flea bag I think it's on Netflix please
2:32:32
series have you watched this flea bag
2:32:34
yeah so I've watched a couple episodes
2:32:36
so the thing is the first episode just
2:32:39
because we're talking about about Obama
2:32:41
and I thought it was very realistic
2:32:43
she's lying in bed with her boyfriend
2:32:45
and you know they're they're basically
2:32:47
breaking up or no they just had sex and
2:32:50
he's done and she was clearly not done
2:32:54
he rolls over goes to sleep and she's
2:32:56
watching Obama and masturbating to Obama
2:33:01
what president did anyone do that to but
2:33:03
Obama
2:33:04
I can't think any other any other
2:33:05
President Clinton particularly white
2:33:09
women click Clinton but they were forced
2:33:12
the worst
2:33:16
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we are very proud to say that Ebola has
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moved from the Congo to a new spot in
2:33:32
Africa and my predictions always are
2:33:37
when Ebola shows up that the military is
2:33:39
on the way a child was detected by the
2:33:42
health workers at cargando Hospital with
2:33:44
signs and symptoms of Ebola and
2:33:47
immediately transferred and isolated at
2:33:49
where a hospital Ebola treatment unit
2:33:52
for further management a blood sample
2:33:55
was drawn and sent for testing at Uganda
2:33:58
virus research institute very early on
2:34:00
the morning of June 11th and the Sampo
2:34:03
tested positive for Ebola all the other
2:34:06
Congolese family members have been
2:34:08
identified and i in isolation at Werra
2:34:12
hospital a third Wednesday afternoon the
2:34:14
World Health Organization said two new
2:34:16
cases of Ebola has been confirmed the
2:34:19
Ministry of Health the world
2:34:20
organization and the Center for Disease
2:34:22
Control have dispatched a rapid response
2:34:25
team to Casa se to support the teams who
2:34:28
are on the ground to continue with the
2:34:31
various activities including contact
2:34:34
tracing and case management the Ministry
2:34:37
of Health wh1 CDC will undertake ring
2:34:40
vaccination of contacts to the case and
2:34:43
other non vaccinated frontline health
2:34:47
workers as well as other workers
2:34:49
beginning 14 June 2019 so this ring
2:34:56
vaccination is what really caught my my
2:34:58
ear on this apparently there is a first
2:35:03
of all this is right this is 30
2:35:04
kilometers from Kampala in Uganda this
2:35:06
is a big deal this is this is this is
2:35:09
now not just some look place we're
2:35:11
mining up in in the Congo yeah Kampala
2:35:15
this is where big terrorist attacks take
2:35:18
place is
2:35:20
you know a lot of things happen in
2:35:22
Uganda and we've sent CDC which as we
2:35:25
know is you know it has its roots in
2:35:26
military but then they're doing these
2:35:28
ring vaccinations which is here it is
2:35:32
the R vs V - Zeb Oh V and and it's a
2:35:39
vaccine that is experimental and they
2:35:44
call this ring vaccination approach by
2:35:49
offering two contacts of the people
2:35:52
diagnosed with Ebola and their contacts
2:35:55
and also frontline workers to be
2:35:59
vaccinated with the test vaccine so I
2:36:05
don't know what the plan is on this but
2:36:10
I think one it wasn't there isn't there
2:36:13
a legitimately tested already vaccine
2:36:18
for Ebola
2:36:18
they were shooting people up with in the
2:36:20
Congo this is the same one but it's not
2:36:22
legitimately tested I thought it was
2:36:25
that same thing ring testing ring
2:36:28
testing which let me see if I have
2:36:31
little I'm unfamiliar with this well
2:36:33
it's a way of saying we're gonna do test
2:36:35
this shit on you only we make it sound
2:36:37
cool by saying ring okay whatever
2:36:39
I mean it makes sense they're gonna use
2:36:46
the African population to just test
2:36:48
random vaccines on well this is what
2:36:51
we've always been told is that this
2:36:52
takes place and here it is as far as I
2:36:54
can tell and I mean you make it sound
2:36:56
great
2:36:57
mmm and they have some kid who died and
2:37:00
I guess that he had Ebola I don't know
2:37:02
but this is a development that is it
2:37:05
takes it out of out of the Congo and a
2:37:07
DRC and puts it straight into or right
2:37:10
into company lived when I was a kid
2:37:16
hmm military Arlen's receipt you'll be
2:37:19
keeping up track of this yes I will be
2:37:23
on top of the yellow label I will stay
2:37:26
on table I will stay on top of Ebola you
2:37:28
bet Ebola a common Africa gave diarrhea
2:37:35
okay the other big news that you missed
2:37:38
out on well you didn't because it's in
2:37:40
Hong Kong
2:37:41
yes I have a pretty good update and this
2:37:43
is the Hong Kong update I believe this
2:37:44
is CBS it's a pretty good job there were
2:37:46
more clashes today in the streets of
2:37:48
Hong Kong protesters are outraged over a
2:37:51
proposal to send criminal suspects to
2:37:53
mainland China for prosecution
2:37:55
riot police met them with tear gas and
2:37:58
rubber bullets
2:37:59
ramie Inocencio was in that crowd we
2:38:02
have to use force said Hong Kong's
2:38:05
police chief and they did they shot tear
2:38:11
gas and pepper spray swung batons and
2:38:13
fired rubber bullets
2:38:17
protesters pushed back with water
2:38:19
bottles protected by umbrellas and masks
2:38:23
everyone was a target including us
2:38:29
already the smoke and the tear gas is
2:38:31
making its way here feeling it inside
2:38:35
your nose into your eyes is getting
2:38:37
closer and closer helping hands came
2:38:40
from these protesters okay thank you but
2:38:45
it's a small kind of sting when your
2:38:47
futures at stake I think that's no hope
2:38:50
but we still need to continue to file a
2:38:55
case against Asian government and the
2:39:03
hope to stop lawmakers from passing a
2:39:06
controversial extradition bill the fear
2:39:08
if fast anyone here could be extradited
2:39:11
to mainland China human rights lawyer
2:39:15
Jason Young says that could include
2:39:17
foreigners if I'm an American and I did
2:39:20
something bad here I could potentially
2:39:21
be extradited to China well you don't
2:39:24
even have to do anything bad what is to
2:39:26
stop China from making up evidence oh
2:39:30
yeah how long Hong Kong's chief
2:39:32
executive Carrie Lam who's appointed by
2:39:34
Beijing said she hasn't sold out Hong
2:39:38
Kong but in a separate speech condemned
2:39:42
the protesters as rioters that
2:39:46
designation means protesters may be
2:39:48
subject to very long prison terms if
2:39:51
arrested but that's a risk many are
2:39:53
willing to take especially as we get
2:39:55
closer to the bill's passage chief
2:39:57
executive Carrie Lam says she hopes to
2:39:59
do that by next week yeah this is uh
2:40:03
this is interesting well it flies in the
2:40:08
face of these two systems one country
2:40:10
bullcrap yeah big deal the deal that was
2:40:13
made the deal was hands-off yeah and so
2:40:17
this book course all goes back to that
2:40:20
screwed everybody by giving to the Hong
2:40:23
Kong back to China for no apparent
2:40:25
reason and because there still be a
2:40:28
British colony otherwise because it was
2:40:31
it was a lease for life or some
2:40:34
ridiculous number Chinese think long
2:40:37
term
2:40:38
so that wasn't a big deal to them but
2:40:40
and then the Chinese made a big stink
2:40:42
about well don't worry about it because
2:40:44
I was in Hong Kong just before the 97
2:40:48
turn over and everybody there was
2:40:51
paranoid and they've got people come up
2:40:53
to your people to their friends the
2:40:55
money to say you had to all we hear is
2:40:57
people speaking Mandarin and because
2:40:59
this was the big cuz everyone speaks
2:41:01
Cantonese and in Hong Kong and they're
2:41:03
here too many people or these people
2:41:04
they're moving in and they're gonna try
2:41:07
and imprison us and of course in that
2:41:09
that was the same period where all the
2:41:10
expatriates moved to Canada most of them
2:41:14
because you could buy Canadian
2:41:15
citizenship for $250,000 and many of the
2:41:18
great chefs of Hong Kong moved to Canada
2:41:21
was created especially in Vancouver
2:41:23
Vancouver and cool a great subculture of
2:41:27
Chinese restaurants it was weird and
2:41:32
that Chinese ass waged it was this
2:41:34
bullcrap which apparently spoke up in
2:41:36
this woman this Lam woman who's a who's
2:41:38
the governor of the Hong Kong appointed
2:41:41
by Beijing is a creep well a word about
2:41:46
the social scoring that would apparently
2:41:48
be used to you know to entrap people and
2:41:55
and have them extradited
2:41:57
Tina was talking with some people at the
2:42:03
gym I think she's at a new gym now cuz
2:42:05
we moved and she was talking about her
2:42:08
her nutty husband the conspiracy tinfoil
2:42:10
hat we're in dude about and it some
2:42:14
other conversation went to black mirror
2:42:16
and the social score that one of the
2:42:19
first episodes which I think was one of
2:42:20
the best ones it's the second season I
2:42:22
know what the hell they're doing but one
2:42:26
of the guys there is in China quite
2:42:28
regularly even had the social score app
2:42:31
he said ah the kids hate it they found
2:42:36
all these ways to hack around it they
2:42:38
show you oh look you do this thing do
2:42:39
this and then your score in your score
2:42:41
changes there they're completely
2:42:43
circumventing the the whole system which
2:42:47
is encouraging to hear
2:42:50
well as discouraging for me to hear that
2:42:53
you have to do that because those those
2:42:56
bypasses are always sorted eventually
2:43:00
yeah to a degree I'd like to hear from
2:43:02
some of our producers in China about the
2:43:04
circumvention what do you do I mean what
2:43:06
what exactly do you is it the way you
2:43:08
hold your phone different or turn
2:43:10
something on or off or apps that ya
2:43:14
could feed data here and there that work
2:43:16
shouldn't be going I don't know yes good
2:43:20
for you to do that but at the same time
2:43:22
he's why the public at large in China
2:43:25
can only put up with so much they do
2:43:27
they have had revolutions and it could
2:43:30
happen again
2:43:30
I have just two Article two two items I
2:43:33
want to discuss quickly one
2:43:36
congratulations is left yes you have a
2:43:39
clip last thing is a clip because I'd be
2:43:40
great yeah lessening accent I had two
2:43:43
stories no clip first of all okay I
2:43:46
remember my prediction football soccer
2:43:51
is going to be big in the States as long
2:43:54
as it's women I love the pounding the
2:43:58
USA team gave to Thailand 13 to nil at
2:44:02
the World Cup that there's your your
2:44:04
boring scores John you always hate these
2:44:06
boring one one one nil nil nil scores 13
2:44:09
mil and then they were gloating about it
2:44:12
and now there's everyone hates a scourge
2:44:15
you're bad you're bad winners that's
2:44:18
worse than sore losers you guys are
2:44:20
horrible yeah I'm all for it yeah I
2:44:23
think he pounded the Thais perfect the
2:44:27
second one is about this helicopter
2:44:29
crash in Manhattan and I have been able
2:44:32
to do some work on this yeah I'm pretty
2:44:36
sure I know what happened although we
2:44:37
never know exactly until until we get
2:44:41
the full report first of all I owned
2:44:44
this exact type of aircraft before in
2:44:48
1999 this was the Augusta 109e power
2:44:52
this is for sites of incredibly it's one
2:44:56
of the safest machines you can fly it's
2:44:58
a twin turbine engine it can do single
2:45:01
pilot IFR which means
2:45:03
you can fly in any conditions just like
2:45:06
well not at the altitude but just like
2:45:08
any airline aircraft on you know
2:45:14
essentially you're on instruments you
2:45:16
have to be certified this pilot although
2:45:19
he was an experienced pilot was not
2:45:21
certified IFR so you can't fly in
2:45:25
instrument flying rules conditions now I
2:45:28
I'm not certified on helicopter for IFR
2:45:31
but I have had the training and here's
2:45:33
what happen what we call whiteout
2:45:36
conditions which is what he was in the
2:45:39
ceiling was 700 feet but when you're
2:45:42
even 200 feet below that it looks very
2:45:45
different in the air than from the
2:45:47
ground you probably saw the video of the
2:45:49
helicopter flying quote erratically you
2:45:52
actually can't see where you are in
2:45:55
those kinds of conditions and when
2:45:57
you're flying a helicopter
2:45:58
you're not instrument rated and you
2:46:00
don't know how to use the instruments
2:46:02
you will be upside down within 30
2:46:04
seconds it's it's it's you're you get
2:46:07
vertigo and and it's a very very
2:46:10
dangerous situation this guy tried to
2:46:13
make it back he wanted to what we call
2:46:15
Scud running just kind of skirt
2:46:16
underneath the ceiling and I think he
2:46:20
got up there and immediately he got
2:46:22
disoriented that's what we saw on that
2:46:24
video and unfortunately he crashed into
2:46:28
the building it's that simple and and
2:46:33
it's a day wrecker for him and for
2:46:34
everybody else involved but it was a
2:46:37
typical very typical case of pilot error
2:46:42
which is what most of these accidents
2:46:44
are and he never should have taken off
2:46:46
it was just a big mistake
2:46:48
so that's all there is to it everything
2:46:51
else everything else you heard is
2:46:53
bullcrap no it makes sense yeah alright
2:46:57
well the last clip this was kind of an
2:46:59
oozy thing and it was done it's as
2:47:01
somebody did a deep fake on Zuckerberg I
2:47:05
have not seen it it was it any good yes
2:47:09
it was not very long because I he's 23
2:47:11
seconds I how do I get the whole clip
2:47:13
here I have the voice is 17 seconds is
2:47:16
takes a lot of work to make one of these
2:47:18
and this has Zuckerberg sitting there
2:47:19
looks just like Zuckerberg is based on
2:47:22
Zuckerberg and then they have a voice
2:47:24
which doesn't sound quite like
2:47:25
Zuckerberg but it sounds that nothing's
2:47:28
not you know looks like Herbert kind of
2:47:29
swallows his walls
2:47:32
lady talks through all those what he
2:47:34
says I can't even do the imitation
2:47:35
yeah but he does it a little bit the
2:47:37
gates does it a lot of these guys do
2:47:39
that and so it sounds more like a very
2:47:41
clear Zuckerberg and it's not even it's
2:47:44
not that interesting but he would do if
2:47:46
the clip but I do want to say that I
2:47:48
believe in Zuckerberg who did you know
2:47:50
the Facebook's were not big news was
2:47:52
they're not taking it off Instagram this
2:47:54
fake and that was because they refused
2:47:57
to take golf to Nancy Pelosi sure and so
2:48:00
they say look we've kept ours on just
2:48:03
the way we are and so they they didn't
2:48:06
take it off and they shouldn't have
2:48:07
taken it off cuz it's so funny but here
2:48:10
is what it sounds like imagine this for
2:48:12
a second one man with total control of
2:48:15
billions of people stolen data all their
2:48:18
secrets their lives their futures I owe
2:48:21
it all to Specter specters showed me
2:48:24
that whoever controls the data controls
2:48:27
the future okay hold on a second that
2:48:31
sounded nothing like Zuckerberg that's
2:48:34
the worst thing I've ever heard likes it
2:48:36
no not even I say I disagree I think
2:48:41
it's vaguely sounds like him and then
2:48:43
when you have his head they're yakking
2:48:46
away well that's that's the difference
2:48:48
yes but when you just hear it no I
2:48:51
thought it didn't sound anything like
2:48:53
him at all I thought it sounded vaguely
2:48:55
like him but that did that was it that
2:48:59
was the bit it was very funny then
2:49:00
leaving it up it's going to just
2:49:02
encourage more people to do these things
2:49:04
which is probably not the good idea and
2:49:06
it's probably the I would personally if
2:49:08
I was Facebook I'd take down to Pelosi
2:49:10
one I take down this I take them both
2:49:12
down exactly why they didn't is because
2:49:15
you know these guys are reactive they're
2:49:17
all all that you can only conservatives
2:49:19
bitches hold on hold on our stuff down
2:49:22
what do you and they saw they'd see just
2:49:24
doing stuff stupidly they should take
2:49:26
both these things down they stinking is
2:49:28
the problem I
2:49:29
with them is not that their political
2:49:31
one way or the other or or just naughty
2:49:33
it's that it's encouraging more people
2:49:36
to do this stuff but we don't need it
2:49:38
well was this the synthesized voice that
2:49:42
did this deep fake was that like the one
2:49:44
they did with Joe Rogan is that the is
2:49:46
that the same company that put this
2:49:48
together yeah I dad I did I didn't dig
2:49:49
into it well all I'm saying is just like
2:49:51
when we listen to audio only of a
2:49:54
television show that's when you hear the
2:49:56
bad acting I have not seen this deep
2:49:58
fake video I was not seeing Zuckerberg
2:50:00
face only what was burned into my head
2:50:02
from seeing him on television yeah no he
2:50:05
did not sound like him just well your
2:50:08
your it's the same thing you're right
2:50:10
when we do the video clips of you know
2:50:13
some TV show and then we just use the
2:50:14
audio of the acting yeah it's terrible
2:50:18
and you just start noticing it and
2:50:20
that's probably you you I had the
2:50:22
disadvantage of seeing the thing and
2:50:24
with his face and so I'm looking to hear
2:50:28
him more than you are Ryan I did I hear
2:50:31
a little bit of him in there a little
2:50:33
bit even though it's fake yeah but yeah
2:50:36
you're right I'm not gonna deny that and
2:50:38
it's not that I never said it was great
2:50:40
part is no I'm because I've read about
2:50:43
this I've not seen it or heard it and
2:50:45
I'm just like oh really this is what
2:50:46
everyone's all jacked about it's no good
2:50:48
just know around just play it for you
2:50:55
and it's it's only 17 seconds long yeah
2:51:00
well everybody that we're going to oh
2:51:02
we're we've gone long speaking of long
2:51:04
so we're going to shut it down for now
2:51:06
but we'll return on Sunday Father's Day
2:51:09
remember your dad at Dvorak org slash
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2:51:20
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2:51:23
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2:51:24
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2:51:26
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2:52:15
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2:52:20
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there's no monetization there's nothing
2:52:25
none of them give get monetized but what
2:52:31
can I do
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but now you are gone I have no idea what
2:52:41
I'm supposed to do next
2:52:47
to monetize
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the by the ties
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mother died
2:52:58
but that's not gonna stop the fact that
2:53:00
I'd lost 90 percent of my income that's
2:53:03
not going to stop the fact I literally
2:53:05
can't make a living anymore even though
2:53:07
I have a degree I thought it was forever
2:53:10
I was valedictorian in college I can't
2:53:14
just climb YouTube lawyer ian Corzine
2:53:23
and I'm a creator too
2:53:38
if your revenue is derived from
2:53:40
advertising which I think most people
2:53:42
who are YouTube creators are assumed as
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and Millennials who advertise and don't
2:53:48
give a crap about it and they just
2:53:49
forget that the check you see is from
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2:53:53
couldn't do anything that is adverse to
2:53:55
that then the ads will stop it's how
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simple is this to understand
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2:54:08
this context just wasn't enough all this
2:54:12
rider changes getting rough
2:54:16
I'd hate to see the whole planet die
2:54:23
there's a planet crisis you've been
2:54:27
warned
2:54:28
you had an impact just by being more if
2:54:32
we don't fix this so
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well the other side the brunch fire deep
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in the gentrified city of Austin
2:55:26
I met a young girl walking two dogs a
2:55:31
black Irish Satur and miniature
2:55:33
dachshund standing by the corner in a
2:55:37
park of empty boughs she was lost cuz
2:55:40
her iphone battery died showed her how
2:55:44
to find a way to the coffeehouse
2:55:47
she was swiping right and so was I
2:55:51
she's a millenium I fell in love with
2:55:56
her she took a scooter to the doggy
2:55:58
daycare compounder on insta she posts
2:56:03
depressed nice I liked all the pictures
2:56:05
so she'd know that I care I'm cold and
2:56:09
over and I put in my 12-gauge bugs I
2:56:12
picked her up at a park full of tents
2:56:15
and trams she had a shopping cart full
2:56:18
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said yeah guess I am
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