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Adam curry is no agenda item curry from

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northern Silicon Valley where I'm still

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waiting in line and targets from Jessie

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forever

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boom Shakalaka hey Jon glitch how Donny

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don't even start with that I do you know

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how many people will email me and tweet

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me when something like that have the

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clip here trouble at Target today

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registers at stores worldwide were down

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due to a technical glitch

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the glitch prevented cashiers from

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scanning merchandise causing massive

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lines and it stores worldwide

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frustrating shoppers the company closed

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some stores rather than risk further

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aggravating people target says the

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outage lasted about two hours and blamed

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the problem on a quote internal

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technology issue we were just shopping

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around and there was an overhead

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and all the systems were down in target

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and we're gonna nobody can buy anything

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so they're gonna close the store target

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says the glitch was not a data breach

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and information was compromised

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it was a double glitch not just one

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glitch at the beginning with two

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glitches in the report completely

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unacceptable reporting we'll just second

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there professor we we fixed the glitch

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is so lame AP Associated Press lead lead

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led off their reporting of this with a

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glitch that's the first two words in

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their reporting I'd like to know what

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actually happened target has had a lot

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of issues with their systems got a huge

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IT problem and it doesn't make sense

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that the whole system would go down

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doesn't have like local backups or any

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way of doing anything I got a crazy I

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can make sense to you crazy idea could

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anyone pay with cash yeah I get I don't

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think so I don't think they were you did

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hey don't you have a little Bureau you'd

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write it up I don't think so I don't

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think so no I don't think so calculator

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people has no idea higher world target

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is closed just on a bankers holiday kind

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of thing it is people have you know it's

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cute now and it's still cute when you

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call it a glitch and oh well we didn't

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know what to do we were just wandering

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around for two hours we couldn't buy

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anything wait until something really

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good happens and then people will be

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like whoa what is this is the word

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glitch lean mumbled or something more we

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should look at interesting jeopardy

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episode the other day the category for

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final today is word history players

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here's your clue this word for a bug or

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malfunction was popularized in the 1962

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book into orbit by the mercury

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astronauts 30 seconds good luck oh my

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goodness what could it mean

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we think for a second a bug mercury I

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don't know Jim you're smiling why is

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that you couldn't come up with anything

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so what did you write down what is fubar

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4200 that drops you down to 6600 let's

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go to the middle now Adrian Griffin

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she had 12,000 700 her response was the

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correct one what is a glitch John Glenn

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came up with that word and you almost

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double your score Oh wonderful John

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Glenn yes he's the play he's to blame I

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didn't realize that I don't wonder if

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it's true

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oh you questioned the Jeopardy yes I do

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at this point

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oh my goodness I don't watch the way

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they phrased that that the way they

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phrased that answer our question you

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have to ask it as a crowd ever

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yeah maybe fine but I'm not sure that

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the genesis of the word glitch comes

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from somebody just making it up out of

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the blue that's I don't know I dig in

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but regardless regardless when it comes

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to reporting to news this is just not in

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today's world this is no longer

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acceptable as news reporting you need to

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give they could have at least said it

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was the point-of-sale system it was they

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could have given us some information

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it's just a glitch and then uh whatever

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and these glitches they're going to ruin

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your lunches we've got too many glitches

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yeah

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and this situation with target and the

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whole worldwide goes down yeah this do

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we have any IT guys I think we have a

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few guys named dudes named Ben yeah

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someone's guy can maybe help us out here

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somebody's gotta have some ideas

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somebody has to actually somebody in our

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audience knows what happened yes and and

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they should be telling us they should be

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sharing that information with us well

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I've had a lot of glitches in the past

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48 hours mm-hmm as we were about two

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hours from Belfast two hours north north

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north Northern Ireland at a wedding

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destiny

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in the belle-isle castle where we were a

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guests and it was the castle that was

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having the wedding yes the castle er was

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having the way were moving into the

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castle no it was the castle that had the

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wedding oh and I and we were supposed to

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be there for me to do the show today and

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it would have been really cool and of

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course they you know I did some scouting

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ahead and made sure I got multiple

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confirmations the Wi-Fi is outstanding

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and indeed the Wi-Fi was outstanding the

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problem was the connection to the

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internet from the Wi-Fi was just you

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know in like in no-go zones they have

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just no there's no wired Internet they

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literally had an antenna on the roof

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getting the wife or their internet

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signal I think it might have been you

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know like some WiMAX type you finish LED

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a little bit mislead the wife any good

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yeah if the wife that doesn't we're not

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talking about the signal strength of the

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actual Wi-Fi we're talking about its

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connectivity to the Internet and that's

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the whole well well but it is an a

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misnomer because you know as I'm

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troubleshooting this then you know Tina

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would look at her heard her stop she

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said well I got full I got full signal

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here and of course you know the Wi-Fi

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was outstanding they had a great Wi-Fi

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system with repeaters everywhere you

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could walk all over the ground you had

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Wi-Fi it just it wouldn't it would drop

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the connection to the internet so we

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decided instead of staying the extra day

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we got a crack of dawn and drove to

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Belfast and and kind of just got the

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first hotel that I knew would because

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it's a business center business area and

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it's the Titanic hotel in Belfast which

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is where the Titanic was built okay yeah

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it's this is the where the white star

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shipping line and also of course the was

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it the Olympia what was the the ship

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that was act that actually sank you know

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Lou the old switcharoo

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mostly with the Olympia the Olympia was

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the hospital ship the carbon copy of the

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yeah the carbon copy the one that was

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supposed to sing or whatever it was I

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dive I forget I forget the complete

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conspiracy I've never heard just dis oh

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you've never heard this

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oh no well it's even better because this

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hotel is very modern and there's an expo

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center as a whole business center they

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still build something here with ships

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but what is is the the pure attraction

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is the Titanic studios that are located

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right here and do you know what they

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shoot in the Titanic Studios movies Game

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of Thrones oh okay oh my goodness

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there's Game of Thrones

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you know tours and then look at this go

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check that out it's only a hundred and

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forty pounds what so needless to say we

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are not going to check out the the Game

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of Thrones Expo but the wife at the

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Wi-Fi is great and it connects to the

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internet so I'm very very happy very

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happy sounds good yes and anyway we did

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have a wonderful time with it was great

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up in the island it was nice to be in

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the fresh air I do you have to say a

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couple things about leaving London

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before we before we left

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what was that Monday know what they are

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we now know Friday God wouldn't we'd add

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the show Thursday Friday before we left

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we did a little walk around we had some

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time to basically to walk towards it in

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your past Hyde Park up to Buckingham

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Palace and I was very excited to show

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Tina something that I recalls seeing

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when I was 15 years old when I went to

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London for the first time with my dad

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and that was speaker's corner

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okay speakers corner is empty yeah

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there's no one there no one speaks

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anymore on speakers couriers what it's

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like it's legendary isn't there supposed

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to be this so speakers corner is the one

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who's not even the soapbox it used to be

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there know that now it's kind of a

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monument and and it explains that in

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1100 something rather they used to do

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public hangings there which just a small

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step from a public hanging to free

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speech it's about the same and this

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became the place where you could

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exercise free speech and I think it's

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still the only place in the UK where you

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actually can exercise 100% free speech

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because they don't have a constitution

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where this is protected as far as I know

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they have Magna Carta it's not

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explicitly spelled out that the

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government cannot make any rules against

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the freedom of speech or freedom of the

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press which is what we have in the

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United States so yeah and then people

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just giving up they don't even go there

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anymore some people show up for their

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well and it was disappointing what was

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fantastic is we took a cab back from the

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London Eye to go get our suitcases and

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didn't go into London I did yeah we sure

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did an hour

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put him in an hour isn't an hour to go

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around that thing no it's like 20

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minutes 25 minutes no it's a nice photo

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op you know Tina's never been to London

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so it was perfect view of the city

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although though there's new buildings

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like the shard which is that this is the

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tall building that looks like glass

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shards that's now obfuscating the the

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Gherkin called the gherkin yeah the

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gherkin was behind is behind it you

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can't see the gherkin is a shame this

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should have blocked the building of the

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new building so we went so we took a cab

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back and of course I'm not gonna take

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any Ebers while I'm in London you take a

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proper British cab and if you've never

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in a British cab it it's a it's an

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interesting experience because the the

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cabbie sits up front here obviously he's

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kind of isolated but he has an intercom

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system and there's lights everywhere it

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says oh and this red light is on then

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the cabbie can hear you and then he can

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speak back to you and it had the windows

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were open and the most difficult hearing

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him because it's just so it's like a it

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kind of mean her but there was a Telugu

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yang but there was a telecoil logo in

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the cab and I've never used this so I

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switched my hearing aids to telecoil

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which is this induction based system

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where just a wire in the cab will beam

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the audio into the hearing aids and it

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worked really well it was it was like

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magical it's like oh all of a sudden the

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guys broadcasting right into my head ah

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yes really and now it's like movie

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theatres I'm I'm switching that minute

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an elevator

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Oh telecoil let me turn it off I've

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never heard of this oh well well you've

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you've seen the logos you'll see them on

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ATM zero attention obviously yeah it's

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it's a it's a loop system an induction

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loop not everybody knows how it works

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I'm kind of surprised that these exist

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well they exist everywhere now now now

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that I've noticed one like oh this stuff

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is showing up everywhere yeah but it

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works really well which was the

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surprising part like this'll never work

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but yeah sure sure enough and that you

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if you moved your head a little forward

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then it would fade out and you have to

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kind of be in the right spot but it

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worked

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it was nice which was a good feeling for

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what came next which was the Gitmo

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nation trip through easyJet's

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bag drop and boarding system holy crap

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it's gotten really bad I shall explain

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now easyJet is is I love easyJet I've

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always liked it I've always liked their

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their their prices I like I don't

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Stavros where the guy's name is if he'd

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the Greek guy if he still owns it runs

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it whatever but I've always liked their

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vibe kind of like Southwest which I also

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like although you can reserve

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your your seats but you can no longer

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check in at the airport you have to

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check in online which is for me was

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problem number one because the way they

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asked you to do this is to download

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their app on your smartphone well I

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don't have an app and I don't have a

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smartphone so the next thing you can do

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is you can print it out and take it with

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you which in a hotel involves cuz the

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hotels don't seem to have printers

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anymore or business centers you have to

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email it to the front desk notice - why

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is this this is some this isn't not a

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good development in my opinion I don't

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know why I mean maybe people have been

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abusing it or they've been wrecking the

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good or I'm kind of baffled by it myself

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and that got me some hotels obviously

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still do I'm not everybody's bailout but

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I think people just haven't have like oh

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there's a computer over there and then

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you go over there doesn't work and right

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I think that people don't have

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requirement for printing anything

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anymore

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everything's digital just wait until the

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glitches start to happen people all

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right there yet this is a good point

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paperless notice before you know people

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flashing their phones they put the Lord

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boarding pass on their phone and they go

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underneath the light and it seems to

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work a lot and then it doesn't work for

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some people and I find it to be risky

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well personally well so here's the

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process so had it printed out and by the

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way you know Tina has has a her iPhone

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with her which she needs for work

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purposes but she refuses to download any

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app from some some'd outfit and put the

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easyJet app on your phone the apps at

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the is where all the spying takes place

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so it print out the the boarding passes

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and then we go to EZ Jenny easyJet

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has a new system where you drop your bag

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but you can't just drop your bag oh no

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you need to put your passport in first

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so it can scan your passport then you

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put the bags on then it says look here

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scans your face so now he's made the

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connection between your passport

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official document photo and your face

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so thank you very much now you're in the

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system and then you go to the boarding

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gates yeah you go through the security

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which I have to say security was

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reasonably easy or at least pleasant

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they had to open up all my bags as usual

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because now hey looks like that guy's

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got a vibrator in there let's get it

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embarrassing it's always the microphone

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and then you go to your gate there's no

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more gate check-in there's no person you

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go through another scanner where you

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scan your boarding card your boarding

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pass or am i printed boarding pass in

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this case and again it has to identify

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that you're the one and it takes another

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picture of you fed another facial

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recognition shot and then you just walk

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onto the plane so now my face my you

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know connected to my passport is in the

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system and no one asked me that there's

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no disclaimer there's no hey just you

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just so you know here's we're gonna use

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terms and conditions none of that

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did you think of making a goofy face

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yeah and you know at first I have my

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glasses on and then it wouldn't do

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anything I just sat there and this kid

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the way the camera works it's on a it's

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like on a pole and it will automatically

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slide up to your eye height and it's an

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it flashes like look here look here

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slave look here and then it says look

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again keep looking and nothing's

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happening in the and some you know

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someone apparently at minding the

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processes take off your glasses you take

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your glasses off and then then it

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finally figured out who I was now if you

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can make it you can make all the stupid

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faces you want but it won't connect you

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to what it has in its system which is

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based on your passport photo

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well this is a lousy system I've gone

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through these systems and I if you're

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wearing glasses it shouldn't make a

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difference no it doesn't work at all

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that's that's a cheap-ass system they're

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using so I look this up and this is from

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the UK gov this implementation you see

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here's a Gatwick Airport and easyJet

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this is from Mays was a year ago

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launched biometric technology trial and

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Gatwick Airport has launched an

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end-to-end biometrics trial where

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personal data collected at the airport

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self-service bag drops will be

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recognized by new automated self

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boarding gates the technology aims to

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simplify and speed up the process for

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passengers and reduce the risk of human

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error and again there's no real you know

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where's my where's my general data

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protection rules you know where do I get

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to opt in where do I get to say I agree

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to this egregious egregious process yeah

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and so if this is now how they are going

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to help you travel help you travel wait

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for the glitch bitch

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yeah the wait for the glitch bitch all

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of targetdown world was gonna screw up

19:33

your travel like no one else's business

19:35

it won't take much especially with a

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using your little camera at the end

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before the gate yeah so you put your

19:43

stand in there this is camera the first

19:46

you you're in the queue there's a queue

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queue but the camera person goes and

19:53

looks it and then they go in no you walk

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no you walk nothing no no no you walk up

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to the this like a gate you know like

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you know like a sheep before you get the

20:02

the probe in your neck to electrodes you

20:04

hear the slaughter gate yes then first

20:07

you have to put your boarding pass or

20:09

your phone I guess but I had the printed

20:11

boarding pass on the scanner and then it

20:14

goes okay this is who this has to be and

20:16

then the camera directs you to look at

20:19

it and then it makes the connection that

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you were the guy who dropped the bag off

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under this

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boarding pass and you are the guy who

20:28

dropped the bag off who is this person

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on your passport which is and then what

20:34

and then it opens and then you can get

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on oh this is something that opens oh

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yeah it's just like they just can't you

20:41

barely you know you know the tube where

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you get off the tube this is another

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thing people may not know if you travel

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by train in the United Kingdom and you

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buy your ticket don't discard the ticket

20:53

after it's been checked on the train and

20:55

this is a mistake this is a travel tip

20:57

people do this often because in hemos

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normal countries right yeah okay I'm

21:03

done I got a checked and he just thought

21:05

you forget about it you cannot get out

21:07

of the train station there's turnstiles

21:09

that will prohibit you from leaving

21:11

unless you insert your ticket which you

21:14

just use for your trip then it will let

21:16

you out yes like Bart does Bart have

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that okay you know you have to you have

21:24

it yeah you could check in with the

21:26

thing and then you check out with the

21:27

thing right and and I understand when

21:30

people are checking in checking out with

21:32

their with a past like an easy you know

21:34

Rail Pass that is a touch to identify

21:38

this is a paper a paper ticket yeah it's

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the same with the original Bart mm-hmm a

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little paper thing you go in so the same

21:45

the same type of slaughter gate is what

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you have to go to the airplane it will

21:49

not open until it's approved you until

21:52

it's approved yo it just really irked me

21:56

frankly piss me off did not like this at

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all well it's not gonna get any better

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so you're gonna you just get more and

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more oKed

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yes well I just find that and I'm sure

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that you know this is what the TSA is

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talking about but it's the airline

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that's doing this that's the part this

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is a commercial company who now has all

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my biometrics or certainly some

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biometrics yeah what I don't like it and

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no where do I see and you know don't

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worry we'll take care of it

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could they could get hacked to hack my

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face

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well let's see you could next step of

22:36

course would be if you have to put your

22:37

palm down and scan your hand mm-hmm oh

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yeah well in addition to your 4/4 before

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we get to the actual impact your face

22:43

before we get to the before we get to

22:45

the chip implant we have to do the palm

22:48

yeah that's the next good hack you're

22:51

facing to be some phony baloney out

22:54

there this remote you know somehow the I

22:58

think you could pry it seems to me there

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there are a finite number of points that

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are checked on the face when they do the

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face of facial recognition software and

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there's probably a way of gobbing

23:13

somebody up with with paint and pieces

23:17

of clay and whatever they get the exact

23:19

same number well don't you think no no

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no no I think I think facial recognition

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is pretty advanced and I think that I

23:27

think these guys have got it down and

23:29

that you could Jack it yeah well how

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long is it gonna last is John I'm giving

23:34

that up here's my point in the past week

23:37

we've heard about multiple Airlines

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grounding their flights because their

23:43

that transponder systems were not

23:46

working they could not acquire a GPS

23:48

signal what had happened is aircraft

23:51

outfitted with Collins ad SB navigation

23:56

and transponder equipment received an

23:58

over-the-air update which bricked there

24:02

within brick it but it broke their

24:04

system yeah so so that's just one

24:07

example of a glitch reported as such a

24:10

glitch that that ruined people's air

24:13

travel then you have target target

24:17

glitch ruined your purchasing process

24:19

just wait until something happens to the

24:22

facial recognition database at your

24:24

favorite airline these things will stack

24:26

up it's going to be like dominos I can't

24:29

understand why people don't see that

24:31

this is just prone for badness

24:33

bad bad bad experience it doesn't take a

24:37

genius to figure that out but but I

24:39

think the big lich the major glitch the

24:41

whopper mm-hmm is going to supersede

24:44

everything you

24:45

Edie and that is the automated update of

24:48

Windows Windows that brings down

24:52

everything that's the motherlode that's

24:54

the one we've been waiting for of course

24:56

it's gonna happen yeah oh yeah of course

24:59

it will I remember when this began just

25:02

as a little story here all right

25:03

this was during the era of MS and when

25:07

Microsoft decided to compete with AOL

25:10

and they came with their product MSN was

25:12

very slowly deteriorated into all sorts

25:14

of things that wasn't supposed to be

25:16

it's supposed to be an AOL clone mm-hm

25:18

but it was poorly done and poorly

25:20

implemented and nobody not well thought

25:21

out it was dumb in every way but

25:25

Microsoft was hoping to they were they

25:28

kept watching how a o L did these

25:30

automatic updates mm-hmm cuz AOL would

25:33

do that they were just all of a sudden

25:35

they just update and they would you'd

25:37

had no control over this you couldn't

25:38

stop it you couldn't wait you can see

25:40

I'll do it tomorrow you couldn't do it

25:41

right right right

25:42

oh yeah I remember that yeah it would

25:45

take hours sometimes especially if you

25:48

hadn't logged on in a while yeah looked

25:51

at this and said you know our life would

25:53

be so much easier when it's support if

25:56

we everybody was on the exact same

25:58

version so if we could do what a AOL

26:01

does and they were always jealous of AOL

26:03

and they've been trying to get to that

26:05

point where they could do a dish giant

26:07

and they just thought it was a means to

26:10

an end

26:11

right to do these automatic updates and

26:13

they do them kind of now but they kind

26:15

of spread them out a little bit and they

26:17

used to be patched Tuesday which is now

26:19

you've devolved into whatever the hell

26:21

it is I don't even know what they're

26:23

doing but they want to do this so one of

26:26

these days it's gonna happen they're

26:27

gonna do a they're gonna have the

26:29

be-all-end-all

26:30

microsoft patch mm-hmm and it's gonna

26:33

bring your voice to sound pretty country

26:34

people yeah the world country the world

26:36

world the world the entire world will go

26:38

down just along these lines that happen

26:43

to have two clips from Amazon the first

26:46

is with there's chief technology officer

26:48

who I know very nerf ojos because he's a

26:51

Dutch guy he's a really nice guy but

26:53

here he is defending facial recognition

26:56

their technology which as we know he

26:58

is being used quite extensively in many

27:02

of their products there what's there

27:04

there Alexa video thing and of course

27:07

the ring doorbell and but it's great I

27:10

don't think we're pushing it I think

27:11

we're building it we have built a really

27:13

great product and I like the guy it's so

27:16

hard for me not to make through nerve or

27:17

how he's speaking because it's just

27:18

freakin funny how he does that but

27:20

anyway let's go on I don't think we're

27:22

pushing it I think we're building it we

27:24

have built a really great product and

27:26

it's good for our customers to start

27:27

designs whether they want to use the

27:29

product or not they all of this comes

27:31

down to how to fine-tune the mobile yeah

27:34

and if customers are actually having a

27:36

particular data set and really tuned the

27:39

model really well you can work with us I

27:41

think some would look at the tuning of

27:43

the technology as a part of the process

27:45

that right now is hurting certain

27:49

people's in individual rights if police

27:52

forces are using your technology and

27:54

it's not fully ready as you yourself

27:56

just saw stride is the tuning the

27:59

technology worth it if that's what it

28:01

means to people with real people in the

28:02

world that's not my decision to make

28:05

somebody might think it would be a

28:07

Muslim no no I think you know we have

28:09

cops I mean let's say your storage

28:12

engine can be used by a bay for very

28:15

good use can be used by that says bad

28:19

actors it equally doesn't mean we should

28:21

not be offering storage technology now I

28:24

mean the fact that this technology has

28:26

been used for goods in many places it's

28:28

in society's direction to actually

28:32

decide which technology is applicable

28:34

under which conditions yeah it's a

28:38

societal this discourse and decision and

28:41

policymaking that needs to happen there

28:43

to decide where I can apply which

28:46

technologies if I think about the

28:49

simplest answer is if you look at steel

28:52

where your massive steel mills they

28:55

built incubators very very young born

28:57

babies get keep being healthy and we

29:00

also make guns we still a society to be

29:03

decides well it's acceptable use and

29:06

what is not and that's pretty much the

29:09

responsibility that Silicon Valley takes

29:11

over

29:12

they create a society's problem not ours

29:14

we make steel we just make steel you

29:16

make a gun out of it whenever you want

29:18

incubator if and reprehensible it is

29:22

very cavalier that is absolutely true

29:24

that's cavalier though it's cavalier of

29:26

course it is

29:27

it's cavalier when you're making money

29:29

hand over fist yeah right be cavalier

29:32

and that's what you do speaking of your

29:34

your architecture that couldn't survive

29:36

a glitch holy crap

29:38

famous on web services goes down you

29:41

kiss a lot goodbye quite a lot I believe

29:45

that I believe I don't know I believe

29:50

you should say I do believe that the

29:58

Amazon is architected with a lot of

30:02

redundancy that make it almost

30:04

impossible for the whole thing to go

30:06

down sure it caused this kind of problem

30:09

which is different than Microsoft

30:12

breaking all the windows machines out in

30:15

the world because nobody there's no I

30:17

don't have a redundant way I have a

30:18

couple Windows machines mhm and I could

30:21

easily take I could like get one bricked

30:24

and then take the other ones offline if

30:26

I painted the realization what was going

30:28

on which I probably wouldn't

30:30

I'd be dicking around trying to fix it

30:33

and I could use the machines that while

30:35

they were not hooked to the internet but

30:39

I don't see anyway there's no redundancy

30:41

the way that a big central system would

30:44

have or should have and I'm sure has

30:46

some that I'm less concerned about AWS

30:51

than I am about these Windows updates

30:53

well well well and I believe I do

30:58

believe I do believe that govern

31:01

governments should be very involved with

31:04

this technology and looking very closely

31:07

at how it's being used and what the

31:09

implications are and perhaps perhaps

31:11

there's some things that should be

31:13

legislated I definitely am concerned

31:15

about data theft theft of my face face

31:18

theft

31:20

you know someone hacked this could just

31:23

steal my face and then use that

31:25

everywhere you know who knows we were

31:27

just beginning with this now instead

31:30

everyone's all jacked up and Gitty about

31:33

deep fakes and I need to really call out

31:37

NPR and maybe I'm just maybe it's just

31:41

me but no it's not listen to this story

31:46

now we have two government officials we

31:50

got Warner calling for legislation of

31:55

deep fakes and I think Schiff is more

31:58

interesting and this is a report from

32:00

NPR and listen very carefully that this

32:04

an NPR still radio right it's not it's

32:07

not video it's radio yes radio and it's

32:12

never it's podcasting and radio which is

32:15

repurposed

32:16

radio well listen to this story what

32:18

you'll hear next was never actually said

32:20

it looks like a Facebook office it looks

32:24

like Mark Zuckerberg giving an interview

32:26

it looks like his mouth is moving along

32:28

with the words imagine this for a second

32:31

one man with total control of billions

32:34

of people stolen data all their secrets

32:37

their lives their futures but that

32:40

wasn't the founder of Facebook okay

32:42

so just rest the story I want to play

32:44

but I do not understand how when you're

32:48

listening to something you can say that

32:52

this sounds like Mark Zuckerberg because

32:55

it does not and you played a deep fake

32:58

the other day and now I that play that

33:00

that exact one right so let me play

33:03

Zuckerberg now at the same time it's

33:06

important not to lose sight of some of

33:08

the more straightforward and and larger

33:10

ways that Facebook plays a role in

33:13

elections how the hell does that sound

33:15

like this if you imagine this for a

33:17

second one man it's not even the right

33:20

inflection total control the elections

33:22

are wrong it's everything's wrong

33:24

there's a little I know what where the

33:26

connection is I think when you see the

33:29

video people goes it's like when we look

33:31

at

33:32

yes I and we here's a ballot about

33:34

Cilicia I know but I want to say it

33:36

again but let me just say something

33:39

which is I think dig dig there's a

33:42

little gravelly aspect to his voice and

33:44

I think they captured that it's not even

33:46

fucking close no no not in the same

33:52

league at all when you see the video

33:55

apparently NPR gets as stupid as

33:57

everybody else but that must be

34:00

Zuckerberg it's not my voice actors who

34:02

do a better job than this I would agree

34:05

well that's true in fact the one of the

34:08

Obama one that is floating around was

34:10

actually done by peel them yes right he

34:15

just he does a good impression of Obama

34:16

and he just they just made Obama's mouth

34:19

move around a little differently which

34:21

was pretty poorly done and he did the

34:24

voice and it sounded oh there's Obama

34:26

but that could be actually both of these

34:29

could be if you went through one of

34:30

those voice systems how can one of these

34:32

reporters hasn't done this thank you

34:34

here's my point as we deconstruct this

34:37

how is it possible that the NPR does a

34:39

minute and a half report I'm gonna play

34:41

the whole report that does that no one

34:43

thought to listen to what Zuckerberg

34:45

sounds like because it's not him and and

34:48

this oh my god it's machine learning and

34:51

all kinds of deep sakes it's a marvel

34:53

it's real it's not realistic you can get

34:58

this probably a hundred people you could

35:00

hire to do a better job for your deep

35:03

fake but now somehow this is illusion

35:05

being created which we need to legislate

35:08

clearly that machine learning can create

35:10

deep fakes again the real Zuckerberg

35:13

these effects operated much larger

35:15

scales of a hundred times or a thousand

35:17

times bigger than what we're discussing

35:19

here today and here's the deep faking

35:22

along with the warts imagine this for a

35:24

second one man with total control of

35:27

billions of people stolen data all their

35:30

secrets their lives their futures

35:33

many of these dynamics were new in this

35:34

election and at a much larger scale than

35:37

had ever been seen before it history

35:40

that wasn't the founder of Facebook it

35:42

was instead a deep fake created by an

35:45

artist in the

35:46

UK and posted on Instagram this

35:49

technology is quickly becoming a

35:51

national security concern bullshit the

35:54

house intelligence committee held a

35:55

hearing Thursday warning of the threat

35:57

with sufficient training data these

35:59

powerful deep fake generating algorithms

36:01

can portray a real person doing

36:03

something they never did or saying words

36:06

they never uttered that's Committee

36:08

Chairman Adam Schiff the disaster

36:10

scenarios are obvious a deep fake

36:12

showing a 20/20 candidate inciting

36:14

violence against an ethnic group or

36:16

false audio of a military official

36:18

giving orders to mass troops at a border

36:20

how come no one ever said oh my goodness

36:23

a voice actor could do this oh we need

36:26

laws against acting there is no easy

36:29

solution

36:30

up until now social media companies have

36:32

a general legal immunity to content

36:35

posted on their platform but that may be

36:37

changing listen to this question from

36:39

Schiff is it time to do away with that

36:41

immunity so that the platforms are

36:43

required to maintain a certain standard

36:45

of care any effort addressing the threat

36:47

of deep fakes

36:48

yes standard of care involves increasing

36:50

mean well you'll hear you'll hear it

36:53

they've actually make an interesting

36:55

point play with that immunity so that

36:56

the platforms were required to maintain

36:58

a certain standard of care any effort

37:01

addressing the threat of deep fakes

37:02

involves increasing public awareness but

37:05

even this poses a problem it's called

37:08

the liars dividend

37:09

here's citroen explaining what that is

37:11

once you get everyone all educated then

37:14

you know you have wrongdoers points a

37:16

real video genuine audio and video that

37:18

show them doing something illegal or

37:20

wrong right and they get to say ads and

37:22

deep fake pay no attention these

37:24

technologies are evolving rapidly to the

37:27

point that almost anyone can use it

37:29

here's Lindsey Gorman the fellow for

37:31

emerging technologies at the Alliance

37:33

for securing democracy what used to be

37:36

something that was available only to

37:39

sophisticated machine learning becoming

37:43

available to the general public so as

37:45

the witnesses to Thursday's committee

37:47

hearing a test it may only be a matter

37:49

of time until deep fakes affect our

37:51

politics and our national security I

37:53

mean it's just so it's so ludicrous and

37:57

that NPR an audio

38:00

programming outfit says oh my goodness

38:04

that's just like Zuckerberg can't you

38:06

hear it I mean oh here's another DS guy

38:11

I don't understand if you're gonna do a

38:12

long report like this and look into this

38:14

and be especially if you're gonna be

38:15

panicky and hand-wringing it sounded

38:18

like an old woman mm-hmm of why you

38:20

don't bring it aren't journalists I'm

38:23

asking you I should I can answer this

38:26

why aren't journalists doing what you're

38:28

supposed to do which is have you know

38:30

competing opinions here's the yes to no

38:32

and the maybe and have bringing that

38:34

bring out the guy who is a voice graham

38:37

guy oh guy can run it through a machine

38:38

and said this is clearly not Zuckerberg

38:40

voice

38:41

problem solved we noticed that video had

38:46

taken over people's brains many years

38:48

ago we used to we don't do it anymore I

38:51

just like just bribe one a 20 second

38:53

clip we used to play clips called bad

38:55

acting clips we'd take you John in

38:58

particular you take a clip from a

39:00

television show CSI as an example and

39:03

you just listen to the audio and then

39:05

you hear how bad the acting is why can't

39:08

you just love her she's so easy to love

39:12

you know nothing about my daughter you

39:15

hear me

39:15

nothing I know that she is good and

39:19

strong and deserves all the love this

39:22

world has to give can't you see that

39:24

sounds so believable I mean that is

39:26

totally great that's Emmy award-winning

39:29

shit right there ladies and gentlemen

39:30

so people are losing the ability to hear

39:34

and anyway Warner senator Wright senator

39:42

Warner yeah yeah believes he ties this

39:45

deep fake thing into we need to allegis

39:49

because this is about legislating now

39:51

they're only saying social media I have

39:53

no idea where you probably would want to

39:54

think about legislating the technology

39:56

but okay yeah I guess social media they

40:00

want to take away the section 203

40:02

they're doing in a very stupid way and

40:06

this is well you'll hear it Trump in

40:08

2016 he may have been a naive candidate

40:12

then but he welcomes Russia that they've

40:14

got dirt on it and lay it out well you

40:17

would have thought after two and a half

40:18

years in office he would have learned

40:19

that that's not appropriate behavior

40:21

that is you know that this man has so

40:23

little moral Center that he doesn't

40:26

understand taking help from a foreign

40:28

government is wrong

40:29

then we need to put in place a law they

40:33

would say if a foreign government tries

40:35

to intervene in the election in a

40:37

presidential campaign the campaign has

40:39

an affirmative obligation to report that

40:41

to the FBI there's been lots of concern

40:43

voiced by a lot of my Republican

40:46

partners that they know our election

40:48

system is not safe in 2020 and I think

40:51

the least we should do is put this law

40:53

in place that would say you've got to

40:55

report to the FBI if we've got foreign

40:57

agents intervening secondly let's pass

40:59

on election security law to make sure

41:00

there's a paper trail after every vote

41:03

so people have belief in the integrity

41:05

of their vote and third let's go ahead

41:07

and put some guardrails around some of

41:09

these social media companies so you

41:11

cannot use deep fake technology or

41:13

create fake personas the way the

41:15

Russians did on Facebook in 2016 what

41:18

what

41:19

the Russians use deep fakes all of a

41:21

sudden holding macro talk about jumping

41:24

to conclusions Oh Amos Ludacris so the

41:30

reporter talking to him asked him

41:32

immediately what were the deep fakes

41:34

that the Russians did to get a response

41:37

right no they went straight to another

41:39

topic on my show now of course not

41:41

it's just accept them what what deep

41:45

fakes

41:45

yeah we're involved in the 2016 campaign

41:47

specifically and he would have with any

41:50

what would he say

41:51

well what is wrong with these reporters

41:54

this is great stuff so this backs into

41:59

this interview that Trump did President

42:02

Trump did with George Stephanopoulos

42:06

where and to me it was just one big

42:10

troll yeah it was like well you know if

42:13

I got some Oppo research on I'm not

42:15

gonna call the FBI I want to take a look

42:17

at the Oppo research first and

42:18

everybody's freaking out oh no oh no oh

42:22

no no you have if if you get information

42:26

from the Russians or from the British I

42:29

guess that's also a foreign government

42:30

British the Canadian is Canadian the

42:32

Italians you need to report that to the

42:34

FBI exactly like you know the Democrats

42:39

didn't do so they're trying to back this

42:42

into a law and in fact it is Senate bill

42:46

12 47 the duty to report act and here is

42:52

pantsy explosively explaining so that is

42:55

part of our legislate investigate

42:58

litigate what explodes you know pantsy

43:06

explosive our legislate investigate

43:12

litigate legislate investigate litigate

43:15

talking about what the here we go

43:18

Virginia we're doing this and at the

43:20

same time we are honoring our oath of

43:23

office to protect and defend the

43:25

Constitution you see that she's

43:26

introducing a bill or the concept of

43:29

this bill that's that now running

43:31

through the Senate and she's trying to

43:32

say

43:33

this is our responsibility is legislate

43:36

investigate and what was the third one

43:40

litigate litigate that apparently is her

43:43

job now that is the job of everybody in

43:45

Congress United States yesterday the

43:48

president gave us once again evidence

43:50

that he does not know right from wrong

43:53

it's a very sad thing very sad thing

43:57

that he does not know right from wrong I

43:59

believe that he has been involved in a

44:01

criminal cover-up I've said that before

44:03

and our investigation is demonstrating

44:06

that the molder report shows now listen

44:09

to the flub obstruction of justice

44:11

intent at least ten perhaps eleven

44:14

places but for the president to be so

44:17

cavalier to disregard to be indifferent

44:20

to all and any sense of ethics about who

44:24

we are as a country to say he would

44:26

invite aren't an intervention further

44:29

the intelligence community with great

44:33

competences put forth that the Russians

44:35

interfere interfered in our election

44:38

that's an assault on our democracy an

44:40

assault on our democracy this president

44:43

says it's a hoax he supposes he takes an

44:46

oath to protect and defend the

44:48

Constitution but I guess it doesn't

44:50

include him in terms of being to be held

44:57

accountable to obey the law so we have

45:00

in a package that we're putting forth in

45:03

light of the mother report a package of

45:07

legislation Duty report if someone comes

45:10

to a mandating that campaigns report

45:12

foreign up offers of assistance so she

45:19

is now taking up all research which is

45:22

what the president discussed multiple

45:24

times she actually says the word up and

45:27

then she turns it into something else

45:29

if legislation Duty report someone comes

45:32

to you for mandating that campaigns

45:34

report foreign operative offers of a so

45:37

instead of opera upper area offers

45:40

shouldn't even

45:42

it's so self-evident as a matter of

45:45

ethics but we'll have to clarify it

45:48

these people are so you can work with

45:51

thee with the steel dossier well this is

45:55

this is this is why I think it's

45:56

trolling because this is exactly what

45:58

happened

45:59

they took Oppo research I'm sorry

46:02

offers from a foreign country literally

46:06

from a British spy and there was

46:10

involvement from Italy and Australia and

46:14

Russia and now they're gonna create a

46:17

law against it that's I can actually

46:20

I'll tell you about a little bit about

46:21

the text of this I don't know if this is

46:23

gonna pass or not it's the duty to

46:26

report Act which they just pulled out of

46:28

their ballots I want to mention

46:30

something I do and of course if we don't

46:33

have that we should play the entire clip

46:35

and I keep forgetting to get it the

46:37

Stephanopoulos thing with Trump because

46:39

Trump's having a normal conversation

46:40

with him as though he's a person I

46:42

actually expected you would have it

46:43

that's why I didn't know you know I

46:45

expected that I would have a - I would

46:46

expect that I wouldn't have it for the

46:48

lash wrong with you but on Wednesday

46:50

last week I know it's so disappointing

46:52

we're taking forever to get to this but

46:54

but I do remember a couple of points in

46:57

there and Trump with shrugging his

47:00

shoulders and he says to Stepanov is

47:02

with great honesty you know I've never

47:05

called the FBI right and I start was

47:07

thinking about it have you ever called

47:10

the FBI no for something no I what is

47:15

their number 1-800 and call as I've

47:18

never called the FBI to report some I

47:21

don't know who has ever called the FBI

47:22

it's just things they do them with their

47:24

own thing but then I'm reminded of

47:28

Thomas Drake the Ennis NSA whistleblower

47:30

who said he says at the beginning of all

47:33

his speeches do not talk to the FBI ever

47:38

ever exactly yeah

47:42

in big trouble with stuff you say yeah I

47:45

mean they're Flynn talk to the FBI look

47:47

at having to him so here is this Senate

47:54

bill 1247 and and they kind of try to

48:01

make this Oppo research sound like it

48:04

would be something that was given to you

48:07

you see here we have

48:13

in general if a political committee or

48:15

applicable individual receives an offer

48:17

orally in writing or otherwise of a

48:20

prohibited contribution donation

48:22

expenditure or disbursement the

48:24

committee or applicable individual cell

48:26

shall within 24 hours of receiving the

48:28

offer report to the Federal Bureau of

48:31

Investigation to the extent known the

48:33

name address and nationality the form

48:35

national making the offer the amount and

48:37

type of contribution donation

48:39

expenditure or disbursement in general

48:43

should be unlawful to knowingly and

48:45

willingly fail to comply with this

48:47

subsection oh this could be a nightmare

48:49

if you think about it somebody's

48:50

impossible to do yeah yeah well think

48:53

about somebody being spammed by fake

48:56

offers oh sure of from foreign

49:00

governments just keep sending them in as

49:03

they don't report them you know you can

49:04

bust them and I like how they add in

49:06

here the the definition of applicable

49:09

individual who has the duty to report

49:12

means an agent of political of a

49:16

political committee a candidate an

49:17

individual who is an immediate family

49:19

member of a candidate hello Donald

49:22

junior or any individual affiliated with

49:25

a campaign of a candidate an immediate

49:29

family member individual affiliated with

49:30

the campaign for this purposes the term

49:33

immediate family member means with

49:34

respect to a candidate parent parent and

49:36

lost spouse adult child sibling and and

49:38

it goes on and on but this really

49:40

invites entrapment it's big time so I I

49:46

don't know if this will pass it probably

49:49

wants this kind of dumb there's already

49:52

laws on the books but it's it's just so

49:54

funny to me that they you know they're

49:57

all outraged by this and that is

49:59

disappointing neither of us got this

50:01

clip it's about opposition research and

50:06

they're all outraged that that the

50:09

president said not right I'll take it

50:11

everyone else does everyone does this is

50:14

what it's that's why it has a name Oppo

50:16

research everybody knows this I'll take

50:18

it oh oh he's above the law breaking the

50:21

law huh oh they've gone berserk

50:24

unbeliev notes but it's like one of

50:27

their things just think they looking for

50:29

these I don't know what they hope that

50:31

these things hit the home run or

50:34

something I'm not sure I have no idea

50:37

but it's I mean is anyone running the

50:40

country anymore what are we doing I know

50:46

no one's running the country in my

50:48

opinion was a good thing let's take a

50:52

look at it up with I got nothing to say

50:59

if that's a good thing I guess is a good

51:02

thing what are we catching up with let's

51:04

do the Trump campaign outlines on CBS

51:07

Dukey president Trump is getting ready

51:09

to kick off his re-election campaign but

51:11

just days before mr. Trump's

51:13

announcement that will seek a second

51:15

term some opponents are trying to keep

51:17

him from finishing this one calling on

51:20

Congress to launch impeachment

51:21

proceedings Nikole Killion is at the

51:23

White House President Trump spent part

51:26

of his birthday weekend at the golf

51:28

course ready to take a campaign swing to

51:30

Florida Tuesday to launch his reelection

51:32

he started making his case for 2020 on

51:35

Twitter riding the Trump economy is

51:38

setting records and has a long way up to

51:40

go

51:41

however if anyone but me takes over in

51:43

2020 there will be a market crash the

51:46

likes of which has not been seen before

51:48

he added we are doing great in the polls

51:51

even better than in 2016 and will be

51:54

packed at the Tuesday announcement rally

51:56

we've had over a hundred thousand RSVPs

51:59

so far they keep coming in every single

52:01

enthusiasm I think it means the

52:03

enthusiasm is pretty good out there but

52:05

it rallies across the country protestors

52:08

sounded more calls for the president's

52:10

impeachment

52:13

and he continued to take heat for these

52:17

comments to ABC News if someone else

52:19

offers you information on opponent

52:21

should they accept it or should they

52:22

call the FBI I think maybe you do both I

52:25

think you might want to listen like

52:28

trying to want them back

52:29

I reported to the Attorney General the

52:31

FBI Democratic presidential candidate

52:34

Pete Buddha judge tells face the

52:36

nation's Margaret Brennan the president

52:38

should draw a clear line if you think

52:40

there's a foreign effort to tamper with

52:42

an American election and you're an

52:44

American who cares about America you

52:46

call the FBI this shouldn't be hard the

52:49

president and his campaign team disputes

52:52

some polls that show him trailing key

52:54

Democrats alike frontrunner Joe Biden a

52:56

trump adviser tells CBS News expect the

52:59

President to unleash more attacks

53:01

against the former vice president as he

53:04

jumps into a full campaign mode Rena

53:06

Nikole Killion at the White House can

53:08

you imagine if this is a bill like this

53:10

past you the people the FBI would be

53:14

overwhelmed if people actually stuck to

53:16

it

53:16

the amount under now that I think about

53:18

it I did try to get the yeah I called

53:19

the FBI once I I went it was had to do

53:24

with it was had to do with these robo

53:26

calls or something along those lines and

53:31

so you go to the FBI to find who to call

53:33

and there's nobody to call and but they

53:35

say if you always you have this problem

53:37

to some scam go here and you go to a

53:40

website and then the website get gives

53:42

you a bunch of instructions that are

53:44

just like too much for anybody in their

53:45

right mind to do they're obviously do

53:48

not want to be contacted on every little

53:50

stupid thing call your local police is

53:52

their attitude and it's apparent that

53:55

the FBI would be against this because

53:58

they they would be just swamped with

54:00

bullcrap you know if everything the way

54:04

I read the the proposed bill I mean

54:07

people in Congress received immense

54:10

lobbying lobbyists contact them all the

54:13

time by just by the definition of the

54:16

bill you could say that a lot of these

54:19

lobbyists are trying to interfere

54:22

hey here's what I'd like to have done

54:25

it's just it makes no sense especially

54:31

when the lobbyists not you mentioned

54:32

there's a lot of foreign agent lobbyists

54:35

to crawlin all over the place are from

54:37

every country in the world

54:39

luckily though everyone voted for a

54:42

salary increase so they won't have to

54:44

you know they won't have to take money

54:46

from lobbyists and they won't have to do

54:48

insider trading is Alexandria Ocasio

54:51

Cortez said so know it what it does it

54:53

gives them more money to trade with

54:54

another forty five hundred bucks by some

54:58

puts oh man so I just was embrace some

55:06

new said none of the media is picking up

55:08

on all right and I got a kick out of it

55:11

when I spotted it and I thought it would

55:13

be something worth listening to Oh Jay

55:15

Simpsons decided to go on Twitter hate

55:18

where the world is yours truly now

55:20

coming soon to Twitter you'll get to

55:22

read all my thoughts and opinions on

55:24

just about everything now there's a lot

55:26

of fake oj accounts out there so this

55:29

one at the real oj 32 is the only

55:32

official one so it should be a lot of

55:34

fun Oh getting even to do so god bless

55:36

take care it's getting even with

55:39

somebody here's the second post he's

55:41

done too now hey two of the world you

55:43

know for years people have been able to

55:45

say whatever they want to say about me

55:53

set the record straight more importantly

55:56

I'll be able to talk about everything

55:57

especially sports fantasy football and

56:00

even politics but for now let me just

56:04

say to my fellow father's out there

56:06

happy Father's Day you god bless so this

56:12

is a new low for Twitter and where's his

56:14

blue checkmark oh he doesn't have a

56:17

checkmark no we need all right we need

56:22

to start a campaign get OJ a checkmark

56:25

so he puts up these two posts and he's

56:27

already up to three hundred twenty-five

56:29

thousand verify oj hashtag verified oj

56:33

you'll be over a million shortly to do

56:36

these half-drunken kind of rants or

56:38

whatever's gonna get back at some PC

56:41

drink gonna be great you see a drinker

56:43

is he a drinker I don't know but he's

56:46

getting old is could be just old age but

56:48

but whatever the case this is gonna be

56:51

great and I think it's marks a new low

56:54

for Twitter can I can I just give a tea

56:56

has refused to cover the story

56:59

can I offer some advice to some

57:00

colleagues out there I would like to

57:03

offer advice to Spotify and Pandora

57:06

gimlet this is the guy you want to do a

57:10

podcast with this is the podcast you

57:12

want on your network you want the oj

57:15

cast that is money in the bank people I

57:21

agree as sick as it is yeah it's it's

57:25

exactly true shoot maybe we should just

57:27

produce it just get a hold of them eg

57:30

see you can be sure he's got a business

57:32

guarantee mmm a DM at the real oj 30 to

57:36

go on John

57:37

you're the sports guy everybody knows he

57:41

knows you the juice yes the juice is

57:45

loose the juice pot the juice cast you

57:48

scam I'm seeing it I'm seeing some great

57:51

ads you know some great products soon

57:58

I've set we do Ginsu knife sets on them

58:02

you know have that as a net you call it

58:04

the murder cast by the way I'm a little

58:08

disappointed you've not talked about the

58:10

biggest sports story of the decade

58:27

yes Golden State Warriors

58:33

I missed that game so what would happen

58:38

to get the Raptors who are they

58:39

I hear candy Naevia kicked your ass

58:42

Golden State how disappointing is that

58:45

and why is Canada in the NBA how does

58:47

that work

58:48

you know this came up at the table the

58:50

other day and people don't realize that

58:51

that basketball was invented in Canada

58:54

no and follow follow that up the first

58:58

NBA game in history was first played in

59:02

Toronto huh

59:05

so that's why they probably could use a

59:10

couple of teams they could use one on

59:11

they were on the west coast I did not

59:13

realize that so so Canada invented

59:15

basketball that's what this does just

59:18

what think that this came up in the in

59:21

all those games they were playing over

59:23

and over again yeah huh

59:25

all right well that was written by John

59:27

nays bitches I recall but Naismith

59:30

kanays Naismith Naismith not knees bass

59:33

nation you know more than I do

59:34

no I'm really I'm really I have the

59:38

troll room open that's how I how for you

59:42

could for a second think I knew more

59:43

about sports than you just dissing

59:46

wattage you surprised me that's why

59:49

anyway back to you yeah you could be a

59:51

closet sports junkie for all I know back

59:56

to I think that the glove cast maybe is

59:59

a better name for the oj the glove cast

1:00:04

we are so sick yes podcast ladies and

1:00:09

gentlemen they're taking over the world

1:00:10

witnessed the BBC back in the real world

1:00:12

it was announced today that this show is

1:00:15

being replaced in the autumn by a

1:00:17

podcast podcast I mean there's no limit

1:00:22

to the depths of depravity to which

1:00:24

BBC's regulars are prepared this is a

1:00:28

podcast anyway it was a podcast if God

1:00:32

had meant pods to be cast he wouldn't

1:00:34

have invented the wireless the good news

1:00:37

is he's free

1:00:40

it's one of my favorite clips of the

1:00:43

Williams depravity I got an ISO rating

1:00:51

this guy was it Andrew Neil whatever his

1:00:53

name is and he knew what the beginning

1:00:57

again back in the real world it was

1:00:59

announced today that this show is being

1:01:01

replaced in the autumn by a podcast a

1:01:05

podcast I mean there's no limit to the

1:01:08

depths of depravity with BBC schedulers

1:01:11

are prepared to say it makes me so proud

1:01:17

I'm very very proud of that I'm not

1:01:22

going to end with that I would like to

1:01:24

thank you for your courage and say in

1:01:26

the morning to you the man who put the C

1:01:28

in Canadian basketball Johnson well in

1:01:34

the morning to you mr. Adam curry also

1:01:36

in the morning to all the ships at sea

1:01:37

and the boots on the ground and the subs

1:01:41

in the water and all the games and all

1:01:42

the nights out there and in the morning

1:01:44

to our trolls we got a lot of them the

1:01:46

trolls are in the troll room you can

1:01:48

find them at No Agenda stream comm where

1:01:50

you can also listen live to the program

1:01:51

and there's many programs it's 24/7

1:01:54

there's always someone in there

1:01:55

listening commenting trolling and we're

1:01:58

not bashful about it it's trolls so go

1:02:00

in there and show your best troll äj--

1:02:03

no agenda stream calm and we also like

1:02:08

to say in the morning to CSB I think I

1:02:12

think CSB has changed his his name on

1:02:17

the art generator I don't know you could

1:02:20

do that yeah you can apparently and he's

1:02:24

he what is his name then comment let me

1:02:26

guess it's Charlize Charlie Smith

1:02:33

Bingham well it turns out it's the name

1:02:37

CSB has now been hijacked by some dude

1:02:39

named comic strip blogger

1:02:40

oh no and

1:02:44

who's very mad at you because you

1:02:46

apparently have blocked him on Twitter

1:02:48

so just yeah well that's because he was

1:02:51

well I not that I don't like the guy

1:02:53

yeah he's blocked him though that

1:02:54

doesn't that's not a real likeable thing

1:02:56

to do well you know he was he was I was

1:03:01

getting too much material stop with all

1:03:05

the great material is what you're saying

1:03:06

that's that's what a block means to you

1:03:08

it's just too much good material please

1:03:10

I have to slow you down it is I'm not

1:03:12

there to do I'm just there to I don't

1:03:15

know why I'm there I don't even know why

1:03:16

I go on Twitter I should get off of it

1:03:18

well this was the artwork for episode 11

1:03:20

46 the title of that was googors and csb

1:03:25

AKA comic strip blogger did a great

1:03:27

piece of art it was the Fort Trump logo

1:03:30

it was nice it was done with kind of

1:03:32

pixelated camouflage background and it

1:03:36

made sense in context of the episode

1:03:38

that we had and we appreciate it it's no

1:03:40

agenda art generator calm where you can

1:03:42

see all the artwork that submitted where

1:03:44

you can submit artwork and lots of

1:03:46

people do and we always have to make a

1:03:48

very difficult choice and it was the CS

1:03:50

B's who we chose and again thank you

1:03:52

it's a part of our value for value model

1:03:54

it really helps when we have fresh

1:03:56

artwork to show because people it

1:03:58

catches people's eye in where they find

1:04:00

podcasts everywhere so thank you well we

1:04:04

have three executive producers and again

1:04:06

no associates for some time in a row

1:04:10

this is odd yeah also this is the second

1:04:13

time in a row that we had no checks that

1:04:15

are over $50 that came in in fact that

1:04:17

pilot checks is very small it doesn't

1:04:19

make a lot of sense to me unless that's

1:04:21

the way the intelligence agencies are

1:04:23

sending us money taxes and checks and

1:04:27

we're not doing they're not doing we're

1:04:29

not doing it right or not doing their

1:04:30

bidding hmm I don't know what it is we

1:04:32

said wrong but at the top of the list is

1:04:35

in fact I have the bonus clip this is

1:04:38

Sir Dave fuga Zotoh hold on oh where was

1:04:41

your bonus clip

1:04:43

I didn't I didn't listen to your to your

1:04:46

bonus clip so I didn't know what it was

1:04:50

that now I know what it is let's just

1:04:55

make sure we recognize that name again

1:04:57

fugu all right sir Dave coming played

1:05:03

that for j-just she's in her she's in

1:05:07

the office and she's doing something and

1:05:10

she hears this photo screech what the

1:05:15

hell is that I played it again and it

1:05:17

makes you laugh because Fletcher cracks

1:05:20

his voice and some very controlled way

1:05:23

at the end of the fuga Zotoh just on the

1:05:29

end there isn't it yeah it's

1:05:31

unbelievable how good this guy is and so

1:05:33

I was going back and forth and I said

1:05:35

maybe we should reintroduce the old we

1:05:38

had a gimmick about four years ago I

1:05:40

think where we would let people donate a

1:05:44

certain amount of money they get a they

1:05:45

get a Fletcher call out oh that's a cool

1:05:48

idea yes we did it but it's a long time

1:05:54

ago let me see some of the yells we have

1:05:59

of course there's the classic it's the

1:06:04

crack at the voice every single time yes

1:06:07

very no I mean that is a skill that I I

1:06:12

was talking to Jay about I said this is

1:06:14

a voiceover skill that is not something

1:06:17

anyone can do and I don't know anyone

1:06:20

else who can do it is like this I mean

1:06:22

it's unbelievable

1:06:30

yeah that wasn't this good one it's it's

1:06:33

funnier when he's when it's just him

1:06:35

when it's no music screaming yeah no

1:06:38

yeah I don't know if I have any ways oh

1:06:41

oh yeah yeah yes this is the one ladies

1:06:45

and gentlemen it is time to realize

1:06:51

that's a good one right so there's a

1:06:53

promotion you're working on very good

1:06:56

till we get to the promotion anyone who

1:06:58

donates sir Dave did $999.99 anyone who

1:07:04

does a grand or more will will get a

1:07:07

call out for him oh wow yeah meantime

1:07:10

but the promotion will be the original

1:07:11

promotion I went back and forth with

1:07:13

Fletcher John with about about this

1:07:15

mm-hmm

1:07:16

and he reminded me that it was a it was

1:07:19

an old PI donation at 314 when everyone

1:07:22

five that we did it for and we did it

1:07:25

for about two or three months but I was

1:07:26

thinking just doing it for about a month

1:07:27

but if anybody wants to do a thousand

1:07:29

bucks at any time well I think he'd be

1:07:31

more amenable to the throw out that

1:07:33

leave your last name and then you can

1:07:35

put it on your phone or whatever you

1:07:36

want to do that was the original idea

1:07:38

let me get to the donation so Sir David

1:07:41

threw 99999 this donation three times

1:07:45

33333 is a recognition and thanks for

1:07:48

all the karmic goodness requested during

1:07:51

show eleven eleven the super uber mega

1:07:54

karma episode okay melody is well on her

1:07:58

way to success as a grad student student

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lady Isabel enjoyed great success in the

1:08:03

last Irish dance competition out in

1:08:05

Portland

1:08:06

yes I'm retired from the Army as of the

1:08:10

30th of the month and have landed a job

1:08:12

in our house just sold not saying that

1:08:15

requesting karma back then had anything

1:08:17

to do with all of it but hey it

1:08:19

certainly didn't hurt all you

1:08:21

freeloaders out there and you know who

1:08:22

you are should try donating some time in

1:08:25

getting some of your own it's a super

1:08:28

uber mega amazing or as he puts it

1:08:33

amazing balancing all that however Brad

1:08:37

my buddy with the brain cancer went into

1:08:39

the hospice a couple of days ago and we

1:08:41

brothers and arms our watch why

1:08:44

and waited in watching and waiting mode

1:08:47

kind of a bummer some F cancer karma

1:08:50

would be appreciated let me do that

1:08:51

right here right now let me do it that

1:08:56

you've got karma gotta separate that out

1:09:01

I'm kind of lost right for a while but I

1:09:03

recently went back and updated my

1:09:04

accounting and apparently I leveled up

1:09:06

the by count I request a peerage upgrade

1:09:09

during today's show and would like to

1:09:11

expand my territory to include America's

1:09:13

heartland and the Saudi Arabia hmm also

1:09:17

an episode or two ago the question arose

1:09:20

as to what whether or not account

1:09:23

count is in the level is a level where

1:09:26

they're not count there was last show is

1:09:29

a level in the no gender peerage system

1:09:31

according to Dvorak /or peerage and the

1:09:35

book of knowledge page on Italian

1:09:37

nobility count is synonymous with earl

1:09:39

go oh not by count okay we don't use

1:09:45

counting and we don't use the know the

1:09:47

Italian nobility we use the British yes

1:09:49

finally according to the update from the

1:09:52

UAE s last episode Riyadh is also hot as

1:09:56

I typed this it's 100 throw he's there

1:09:59

is 113 degrees but without the humidity

1:10:02

that our UAE producer is likely enjoying

1:10:06

and there's a headline from today's arab

1:10:09

news Filipina players dominate at

1:10:12

women's bowling championship in Jeddah

1:10:15

Congrats ladies way to go do they have

1:10:20

cute outfits is the question keep up the

1:10:23

great work and thank you for your

1:10:24

courage

1:10:25

thank you for your bird sir Dave yeah so

1:10:29

he I mean you see what do I have a mic

1:10:30

yes Mike yeah be by count of America's

1:10:33

heartland and Saudi Arabia outstanding

1:10:36

and thank you for your support

1:10:39

longtime support is about regular karma

1:10:42

so you can add to his collection

1:10:45

you've got karma as serendipity came in

1:10:51

from Colombo Portugal Portugal I believe

1:10:55

yes for 3234 once all operational

1:11:00

expenses are taken care if I'd like to

1:11:01

suggest that part of my donation goes to

1:11:03

help add and pay a romantic dinner to

1:11:05

mrs. mrs. Tina the keeper

1:11:08

enjoy your vacations here yes we're

1:11:11

going to Portugal tomorrow and that's

1:11:13

where our actual fight I remember that

1:11:16

that's where the actual honeymoon takes

1:11:17

place you're gonna go to old Porto

1:11:22

possibly we're so tired

1:11:25

you're gonna go to Lisbon and hang out

1:11:27

we're going to the Algarve and to hang

1:11:30

out you gonna wear the Algarve oh I

1:11:33

never heard of it the Algarve

1:11:35

it's like the entire that's the

1:11:37

beautiful coast is where you vacation

1:11:40

the Algarve it's a region okay well

1:11:43

anyway I wanted to say anyone that likes

1:11:45

it has never visited Portugal and you're

1:11:47

a photographer mm-hmm Lisbon it's the

1:11:50

most photographic city I've ever been to

1:11:53

not because it's ornate and beautiful

1:11:55

like Barcelona it's kind of dingy put in

1:12:00

a very photogenic way by the way I'm a

1:12:04

regular passenger on the emergency row

1:12:06

of the oak Opio AMS flights so if you

1:12:11

see a sales looking guy seated there

1:12:13

drop an ITM it might be me finally we're

1:12:19

not we're flying from Belfast and we're

1:12:22

flying easyJet so unfortunately we won't

1:12:24

we won't see you finally a gift to the

1:12:28

no agenda listeners with for human

1:12:29

resources already I'm donating all of my

1:12:32

baby-making Karma I won't cut my tubes

1:12:35

but I'm done please play the Hillary

1:12:38

cackle - to the head then that's wrong

1:12:41

followed by brown shoes karma

1:12:50

you've got a karma by the way I

1:12:56

appreciate very much but the keeper

1:12:57

actually is paying for this part of the

1:13:00

journey for the Portugal rest du port

1:13:04

Dougal mm-hmm yes she booked everything

1:13:08

she the best

1:13:12

well a couple of things I should mention

1:13:14

because I think Portugal's fantastic but

1:13:17

it has some of the lowest price wines

1:13:21

high quality wines locally made dry and

1:13:26

sweet but mostly but the dry wines are

1:13:27

outstanding and the whites are terrific

1:13:29

they're way under priced worldwide you

1:13:33

get over here too cheap they're

1:13:35

extremely inexpensive in Portugal and

1:13:37

they also do the same thing with our

1:13:39

olive oils so all of those are way under

1:13:41

priced so if you're you can find a good

1:13:45

one you get it for next to nothing and

1:13:47

get their check-in luggage and bring it

1:13:49

back I'm sure that in the in 11 years

1:13:51

we've discussed it but you know I was

1:13:56

very famous for a little while in

1:13:57

Portugal when it was still a third-world

1:13:59

country

1:14:00

yeah you talked about this cuz when I've

1:14:02

never been to Portugal pre he you so I

1:14:05

never got to see the dirt roads that are

1:14:06

now giant freeways yeah it was so this

1:14:11

this was 1982 or 83 and there was an

1:14:15

international consortium called Europa

1:14:18

television and Europa television was all

1:14:20

the public broadcasters from in the EU I

1:14:23

think maybe was even a precursor to the

1:14:24

Euro the you know like the EU Eurovision

1:14:27

coming together and so people are doing

1:14:30

news and sports and we provided a half

1:14:34

hour of music videos every single day

1:14:37

and typically this was broadcast it

1:14:40

would be as you know because Europe had

1:14:41

a lot of cable penetration so you could

1:14:44

get all these crazy channels with Sky

1:14:45

channel those music boxes MTV but in

1:14:48

Portugal they only had two stations RTP

1:14:51

one RTP - and it was over-the-air there

1:14:53

was no cable but for some reason they

1:14:56

decided every day in this a public

1:14:58

broadcaster to take our show called

1:15:01

countdown and air that on television

1:15:05

over the air so here were kids who and

1:15:07

Portugal was a third world country in

1:15:10

the early 80s I mean it was this is all

1:15:12

before the big EU money came in so

1:15:15

they're just nothing but dirt roads

1:15:17

and now here was a guy who although the

1:15:21

first time they're seeing Bon Jovi

1:15:23

videos they'd never seen this before

1:15:25

I say Janet Jackson Michael Jackson a

1:15:28

Tina Turner and and people would send me

1:15:31

mail postcards remember those and there

1:15:34

would be a post sacks full I mean just

1:15:37

huge mail bags and I'd be reading their

1:15:41

notes and so when we went there to just

1:15:44

you know just do a couple shows from

1:15:45

Portugal we were at the airport and you

1:15:49

know we had to import all of our camera

1:15:52

gear back in the day it was a lot bigger

1:15:54

and you had to have a carne ciear and et

1:15:57

a carne which was it's like a travel

1:16:00

document for your for your gear so that

1:16:02

you know when you enter the country and

1:16:04

you leave again you didn't sell off some

1:16:06

hundred thousand dollar piece of

1:16:08

equipment that they didn't know about so

1:16:10

it took a little while for us to get

1:16:11

through customs but we kept hearing this

1:16:13

weird sound and I thought it was the the

1:16:15

baggage carousel at the airport which it

1:16:18

could have been because a rickety but it

1:16:20

turned out when we finally had the carne

1:16:22

set and we're going through customs the

1:16:24

doors open there were five thousand kids

1:16:26

standing there waiting for Adam Coryell

1:16:29

Adam Cooley out of Korea and I'd made

1:16:32

jokes on the show like oh we're going to

1:16:34

go into Portugal yeah now all right

1:16:36

girls make sure you you show up in my

1:16:38

hotel with the Lamborghini dude I still

1:16:41

have paper clippings front page where

1:16:44

girls showed up with their dad's

1:16:45

Lamborghini to give to me it was

1:16:48

outrageous and just one of the trickiest

1:16:52

things I've ever witnessed and now no

1:16:55

one knows who I am it's daunting

1:16:56

it's nothing is leaking so I'm gonna see

1:17:00

I'm gonna see if we can find the old

1:17:02

people while we're there like hey man

1:17:04

remember me baby let me show you a

1:17:05

picture of what I used to look like get

1:17:11

a badger but maybe maybe I'll get some

1:17:13

giant buttons like the podcasting but we

1:17:15

had a big Jam here with your face on it

1:17:18

this used to be my I used to be famous

1:17:20

sure you remember me

1:17:23

all right but maybe someone will

1:17:25

recognize you it happens yes maybe not

1:17:27

we'll find out not I do I do recall

1:17:31

someone gave me a port wine from my

1:17:35

birth year 1964 and and I save that and

1:17:39

when I turn I think 40 I opened it god

1:17:43

that was some dreck had completely gone

1:17:45

bad it was horrible no 64 is not a good

1:17:48

year now if they were smart and giving

1:17:49

you a 63 which is still good to this day

1:17:52

just out the three renata for no no no

1:17:57

they had a followed killer port ID oh

1:17:59

man I remember at a certain point I was

1:18:02

we had all these autograph sessions and

1:18:05

he was like and we had this promoter

1:18:06

right

1:18:07

Alessandro Bosh was it named Alessandro

1:18:10

Bosh we say it today we take autographs

1:18:12

very close by and we're getting this a

1:18:14

Renault Espace van and we drive for

1:18:19

three and a half hours through these

1:18:20

dirt roads like what are we doing and

1:18:22

then to be a crowd of several hundred

1:18:25

kids there but then the punk showed up

1:18:28

and they were on you know like mopeds

1:18:30

and bicycles and they were spitting at

1:18:32

the car and jumping on it was it was

1:18:35

crazy I got to find some of that video

1:18:37

I got a post that if I can find any yeah

1:18:40

good times

1:18:41

thank God the EU came in and

1:18:43

straightened those people out well

1:18:46

enslave them into obedience well they

1:18:51

were under their old rulers it wasn't

1:18:54

much better

1:18:55

Sir Colin the friendly fat man is our

1:18:58

last associate executive producers he's

1:19:01

the third one it's all we got

1:19:04

$360 nice donation mmm-hmm Sir Colin

1:19:08

Colin the friendly fat man from

1:19:11

Cincinnati

1:19:12

mmm-hmm a couple of things from the list

1:19:14

for today one I want to wish my father

1:19:16

Arthur Rivera by the way we did have a

1:19:18

father Father's Day a promotion for

1:19:20

Father's Day and as usual yeah everyone

1:19:23

hates their deaths they hate their dads

1:19:25

they hate their moms they have no

1:19:27

Valentine's but they love Fibonacci

1:19:29

numbers that's right go Fibonacci boo

1:19:32

dad boo mom

1:19:34

I want to wish my father Arthur a very

1:19:36

happy Father's Day he's a man of heroic

1:19:38

character and unwavering conviction that

1:19:41

I aspire to imitate daily in my own

1:19:44

feeble way he has made me into the man I

1:19:46

am today and there's nothing I could

1:19:48

never do to repay him for all he has

1:19:50

done for me and my six siblings so the

1:19:53

next best thing is to recognize him and

1:19:57

the best podcast in the universe this

1:19:58

donation amount is magical

1:20:00

shape-shifting Jew 18 dollar donation

1:20:03

times 2007 kids and 13 grandkids god

1:20:07

bless him nice I also want to wish a

1:20:11

Happy Father's Day to my brother Stefan

1:20:13

and our Steven and my two

1:20:15

brothers-in-law Chris and Kevin I was

1:20:18

involved in the Cincinnati meetup back

1:20:20

in May and forgot there sent you guys

1:20:22

the picture attached of our group it was

1:20:24

a great get-together and we even had a

1:20:27

baron humble us presents nice as many

1:20:31

have said it was an amazing feeling to

1:20:33

be able to talk about whatever we wanted

1:20:35

without much of any concern for

1:20:37

upsetting our table mates yes took the

1:20:40

first step number four I recently took

1:20:42

that was number three

1:20:43

number four I recently took my first

1:20:45

step into the property ladder and bought

1:20:47

house yes it was I knew it was the one

1:20:50

when I saw the street address and

1:20:53

included the magic number 33 now my

1:20:56

mother would really like me to find it

1:20:58

keeper of my own ago it and go along

1:21:00

with it go along with it so I could get

1:21:04

some house relationship karma yeah no

1:21:07

that's what he wants yeah boy that's

1:21:09

what his mom wants yeah that's just mom

1:21:11

which will give him some - we noticed

1:21:13

what he wants is really just some

1:21:14

awesome hookers no

1:21:19

you heard that Tina Adam I was the one

1:21:23

who sent you the high and mighty wall

1:21:25

hanging stop like yes I hope you liked

1:21:29

it and it worked out for you hearing

1:21:31

your thoughts would be great what is he

1:21:34

talking about okay so the hide mentioned

1:21:36

a website designer designed to be stuck

1:21:39

up calm yes fellow producer I'm glad

1:21:42

that he finally sent the sensor Colin so

1:21:44

it when we said that we were that we

1:21:47

bought a house and we're gonna move into

1:21:49

the house he sent us a whole bunch of

1:21:51

these design to be stuck up items and

1:21:55

you can what well it's hooks but also

1:21:59

there's a shelf so there's no holes you

1:22:01

don't drill any holes and it says it's

1:22:03

it's it's you have to look at the

1:22:05

website to understand the the system but

1:22:08

you can hang up up to like 30 40 pounds

1:22:11

in some cases without drilling holes the

1:22:13

stuff just sticks to the wall or what

1:22:15

and drywall does it with drywall too

1:22:17

it's it's it's very cool designed to be

1:22:20

stuck up calm hmm thanks for everything

1:22:24

and along with the Karma can I get some

1:22:25

magical shape-shifting Jew and Putin on

1:22:27

the wrist on the rich Ritz thanks for

1:22:31

calling the friendly fat man you don't

1:22:35

know where this big news why don't you

1:22:37

get your kid mom fix Putin on the Ritz

1:22:42

dressed up like a million dollar true

1:22:46

bomb try not to look like Anderson

1:22:50

Cooper Cooper come let's mix we're John

1:22:54

Podesta walks with kids though I mean

1:22:56

pizzas in his myths Putin on the Ritz

1:23:23

you thought karma all right thank these

1:23:29

three folks for becoming the executive

1:23:31

producers for show 11:47

1:23:33

yeah and and once again no associate

1:23:37

executive producers which is very odd

1:23:38

very odd we don't see that often he did

1:23:43

mention the Cincinnati meetup I do Missy

1:23:47

Dave there was no agenda torrent Dave

1:23:51

back in the day at the London meetup he

1:23:53

did do a $50 cash on the spot donation

1:23:57

he'd neglected to add a note he just

1:24:01

wanted to be deduced and I have a report

1:24:06

from the Copenhagen Meetup which was

1:24:09

just the other day this is from Eric who

1:24:11

organized greetings from Copenhagen we

1:24:13

just finished our first successful

1:24:14

meetup six producers including two

1:24:16

Knights who came out of hiding to speak

1:24:18

freely and then nurse hangovers the the

1:24:21

Dane hangover apparently and discuss the

1:24:24

future of Scandinavia from a no agenda

1:24:26

perspective it was a huge success and

1:24:28

plans are already in the works to make

1:24:30

it a regular thing Adam I hope when you

1:24:32

were finally done with honeymoons they

1:24:33

were able to join us next time I'd love

1:24:35

to go to Copenhagen I would - I'll go in

1:24:38

honor of the Copenhagen nights in our

1:24:40

lengthy discussion of the number 33 and

1:24:42

how much Adam really knows about its

1:24:44

origin I've made a donation 6666 will be

1:24:47

thanking him later on of course as this

1:24:49

is my first donation please d douche me

1:24:51

and kindly call out pablo ponting as a

1:24:53

massive douche bag thanks to you and Jon

1:24:56

for your hard work hope you are proud is

1:24:58

that it brings six strangers together

1:25:00

halfway across the world yes I think we

1:25:03

are extremely proud of this Jon I'm

1:25:08

actually stunned by it

1:25:12

I'm although I'm not surprised and I'm

1:25:17

specifically not surprised about the

1:25:18

fact that people all get along because

1:25:20

the nature of the show is it does have a

1:25:24

mindset that if people subscribe to it

1:25:27

they will be happier they won't have an

1:25:29

inflamed amygdala yes and they will get

1:25:32

along with each other yeah

1:25:33

they always do and I've never you know

1:25:35

yet to see anybody say otherwise you

1:25:39

wouldn't come to the thing if you

1:25:40

weren't a normal person and the fact

1:25:44

that they're doing it that they're

1:25:45

already planning the next one means good

1:25:47

news good news there now say oh here's

1:25:50

your D douchey you've got karma so thank

1:25:59

you thank you to our executive producers

1:26:02

of episode 11 47 and you'd certainly

1:26:05

made up picked up some slack which is

1:26:07

highly appreciated for those of you who

1:26:10

aren't interested in our value for value

1:26:13

proposition all you have to do is think

1:26:17

about what this show was worth to you

1:26:20

what kind of value it provided this

1:26:21

episode on more than one episode how

1:26:23

many been listening to and just send

1:26:25

this to us and you can do that very

1:26:26

simply at Dvorak org slash n hey that's

1:26:31

right I'll be doing another show from

1:26:32

the honeymoon on Thursday make sure

1:26:34

you're there our formula is this we go

1:26:38

out we're here people in the mouth

1:26:55

so I have a clip that confirms something

1:26:58

I was brought up a couple years ago you

1:27:00

were never you were all in on this - hi

1:27:04

this is Steve patch anak hey what are

1:27:08

you doing on my beat with my handler

1:27:10

Steve the genic on North Korea tourism

1:27:14

for the most part North Korea right now

1:27:17

is a country waiting to be helped and

1:27:20

why do I say that there are beaches

1:27:22

there on the southeast of North Korea

1:27:25

and they want to open it up and make it

1:27:27

a tourist attraction by October 2019 and

1:27:31

Trump is the right person in the right

1:27:34

place for the right time in order to

1:27:36

make that type of deal with Kim jong-nam

1:27:39

now Kim Jong Il knows he has to open up

1:27:42

North Korea there are no more missiles

1:27:44

he can fire there's no more radiation

1:27:46

that he can shoot out because it's

1:27:48

really not a benefit to North Korea he

1:27:50

knows that tourism primarily by the

1:27:53

Chinese last year I think about a

1:27:55

hundred thousand Chinese came into the

1:27:57

southeast a part of North Korea on the

1:28:00

beaches was not enough he wanted to open

1:28:03

it up to the world and the way he could

1:28:05

do that was to establish a personal

1:28:07

relationship what we would call in

1:28:09

Chinese Guan Qi with President Trump

1:28:12

because Trump of course knows how to

1:28:14

develop resorts he knows how to build

1:28:17

hotels and he correctly said look

1:28:19

whatever happened in the CIA didn't

1:28:21

occur under my auspices but nevertheless

1:28:24

I have a very good relationship with Kim

1:28:27

Jong on I believe that and I believe

1:28:30

that Kim Jong on will in fact make a

1:28:33

deal with Trump my suspicion is it'll be

1:28:37

around October of 2019 I could be wrong

1:28:40

but I hope I'm right oh is that like an

1:28:42

October Surprise I don't know yeah of

1:28:46

course it is right right before the

1:28:48

October you want you want 2020 October

1:28:51

right right I'm sorry I think it's also

1:28:54

premature I don't think I think it's not

1:28:56

far enough along for that to happen this

1:28:57

year but okay now for those of you who

1:29:00

are relatively new to the program my

1:29:02

uncle Don Gregg

1:29:05

Ede GRE GG who's listed in wikipedia if

1:29:09

you want his background the essays and

1:29:11

he's on the wiki's as high-ranking CIA

1:29:14

seized up in his late 80s now I don't

1:29:17

think he's actually stopped all work but

1:29:20

he was ambassador to South Korea after

1:29:22

the around Contra affair where I believe

1:29:24

he didn't protect his boss properly so

1:29:27

off he was to South Korea but he had

1:29:30

been to North Korea many many times and

1:29:32

we were talking about what was happening

1:29:34

at the time when you came up with the a

1:29:38

tourist destination and he confirmed

1:29:41

that confirmed he's absolutely the all

1:29:44

they want is peace and a true end of the

1:29:49

war we only have an armistice there the

1:29:51

war was never officially ended and they

1:29:54

would love nothing more than to be a

1:29:56

tourist destination in fact it was after

1:29:58

he tried to talk to the Obama

1:30:00

administration and they pretty much just

1:30:02

threw him right out and we're not

1:30:03

interested in listening to you that that

1:30:07

he said to me that I'm sorry yeah it was

1:30:12

Greg that would they didn't will listen

1:30:13

to uncle Don yeah he said Adam Dennis

1:30:18

Rodman understands North Korea better

1:30:20

than anybody in the entire

1:30:21

administration and I think this turns

1:30:25

out to be true that's true

1:30:27

it seems true now the one thing they're

1:30:29

doing though is that you can tell that

1:30:31

they're trying to line up they have some

1:30:33

mountainous areas that where I guess

1:30:35

they can Christine yeah skiing and

1:30:37

they've got the hotels up there and

1:30:39

everything ready to go though they

1:30:40

haven't really have any experience with

1:30:42

massive with lots of people especially

1:30:44

with like grouchy German tourists let's

1:30:46

say not an Americans the two worst

1:30:50

tourists by most standards although the

1:30:52

Chinese are getting up there and the

1:30:55

beaches all the rest but the one thing

1:30:57

that is never discusses that giant

1:30:59

pageant they have every year North Korea

1:31:01

large the soccer stadium in the world I

1:31:04

think it holds on in two if you look at

1:31:05

large stadiums though the biggest one is

1:31:08

is the North Korean one and I think it

1:31:10

holds 120 or 140 thousand people's huge

1:31:13

and they pack a man for this pageant

1:31:15

that they

1:31:17

have every year that is the most

1:31:18

spectacular thing is you can see videos

1:31:20

of it Madeleine Albright's saw it she's

1:31:24

got the witnesses well there's tons of

1:31:25

reporters who go and a lot of reporters

1:31:28

go but the thing about this thing is it

1:31:30

holds so many people they could do one

1:31:32

for tourists and I'm telling you people

1:31:37

would pay $1000 a seat yeah you could do

1:31:40

it just like the Main Street Electrical

1:31:42

Parade at Disneyland you could do it two

1:31:44

times a 2 times a week easy well I never

1:31:47

thought about doing it more than once

1:31:49

yeah and hey and have great yeah and

1:31:51

listen weakly and have grand marshals

1:31:53

yeah you know like Oh Jerry nobody would

1:31:56

build up to that because people are

1:31:57

still skeptical about going to North

1:31:59

Korea but I'd go in at the drop of a hat

1:32:00

and well there Lee is this spectacular

1:32:04

display of coordination and it's just

1:32:08

add astonishing thing just there is yet

1:32:10

again noises coming from Agent Orange

1:32:13

are our Dutch military intelligence guy

1:32:17

that the nah portunity may open up for

1:32:20

the show to go to North Korea but I

1:32:24

don't think we should not go together

1:32:25

that's probably not a good idea no it's

1:32:28

gonna be hard to broadcast from there

1:32:29

well yeah because it would be part of

1:32:33

some military thing he says that he

1:32:35

feels that that may be possible but yeah

1:32:38

now if it's hard to broadcast live that

1:32:41

maybe it does make sense for us to go

1:32:43

together that would be the first and

1:32:45

only time we ever do is show near each

1:32:46

other

1:32:47

yeah I don't want to break tradition

1:32:48

okay screw North Korea ruin the show we

1:32:54

get to North Korea one way or the other

1:32:57

what I told this BMI live Joe so I said

1:33:00

this once to him yeah yeah love to go to

1:33:03

know its core what why would you go to

1:33:04

they see that murderous coup North Korea

1:33:07

why would you do this these are liberals

1:33:09

and these are guys who reduced to write

1:33:10

four New York Times and they've been

1:33:12

teach professionals liberal professors

1:33:15

liberal

1:33:20

yeah that's that yeah so I've been

1:33:24

watching the action on the tanker attack

1:33:27

yeah I got a couple clips on this well

1:33:31

that's I have a I have a couple of clips

1:33:34

too and I then I have a clip that

1:33:36

actually makes sense okay

1:33:38

most of the clips are just you know

1:33:40

hysterical not interesting why yeah I

1:33:42

know they have a BBC background or since

1:33:46

I'm over here I thought it might be

1:33:47

interesting to get a BBC then I'll play

1:33:49

mine that I have there the kicker clip

1:33:52

is is the from arty which has a

1:33:57

different so once again we have to go

1:33:59

outside of the United States broadcast

1:34:01

and to get anything of any use here's

1:34:05

the BBC well the Iranians are saying it

1:34:06

wasn't us but the Americans are saying

1:34:08

yes it was they're blaming Iran for a

1:34:11

suspected attack on two oil tankers in

1:34:14

the Gulf of Oman one is reported to have

1:34:16

been hit by a torpedo

1:34:18

we know that crew had to be rescued from

1:34:20

both and we have this video that's been

1:34:22

released by the Iranian Navy which shows

1:34:25

the Norwegian ship the front

1:34:27

altaïr it's carrying 75,000 tons of a

1:34:30

particular type of crude oil and we know

1:34:33

the crew reported three explosions and

1:34:36

here's the Iranian Foreign Minister

1:34:37

saying reported attacks on Japan related

1:34:40

tankers occurred when Prime Minister

1:34:42

Shinzo Abe a was meeting the Ayatollah

1:34:44

Khomeini for extensive talks he says

1:34:47

suspicious doesn't begin to describe

1:34:48

what likely transpired this morning now

1:34:52

to explain one of the ships

1:34:54

certainly is Japanese owned the other

1:34:56

though is owned by Norway so I'm not

1:34:58

sure wiser suggesting both are related

1:35:01

Japan to Japan the way

1:35:03

Iran has many suspicions pisode of the

1:35:05

Americans here's Mike Pompeo it is the

1:35:09

assessment of the United States

1:35:10

government that the Islamic Republic of

1:35:13

Iran is responsible for the attacks that

1:35:14

occurred in the Gulf of Oman today this

1:35:18

assessment is based on intelligence the

1:35:20

weapons used the level of expertise

1:35:23

needed to execute the operation and a

1:35:25

whole bunch of new old older bhushan

1:35:26

recent similar Iranian attacks on

1:35:29

shipping and the fact that no proxy

1:35:31

group operating in the area has the

1:35:32

resources and proficiency to act with

1:35:34

such a high degree of sophistication

1:35:36

help us understand what the Iranians are

1:35:39

saying think happened here

1:35:41

well other than what you you read which

1:35:43

is we were set up the idea that the

1:35:46

supreme leader was meaning would the

1:35:48

Prime Minister of Japan as this happened

1:35:51

given that one of the ships was Japan

1:35:54

own it is creating that sort of doubt

1:35:57

even inside Iran and especially from the

1:36:00

point of view of the government that

1:36:02

this was a in operation to embarrass

1:36:06

them or or make that trip unsuccessful

1:36:10

however in that very meeting the Supreme

1:36:13

Leader of Iran said that he's not going

1:36:15

to respond to any message that President

1:36:19

of the United States had sent through

1:36:21

the Japanese Prime Minister because it

1:36:23

was America and it this administration

1:36:25

in Washington that has violated the

1:36:28

nuclear deal has brought back sanctions

1:36:29

he even pointed out that right before

1:36:33

Prime Minister of Japan's trip to Iran

1:36:35

US took another step in sanctioning

1:36:38

Iran's petrochemical industry which is

1:36:40

huge part of Iran's it was clear from

1:36:45

the Iranian point of view that there is

1:36:47

nothing to talk about to this

1:36:48

administration as long as they were in

1:36:50

violation of the deal of UN Security

1:36:53

Council to 231 yet to have this incident

1:36:57

happen on the very same day it does give

1:37:01

them some leeway to at least argue that

1:37:04

this seems something far fetched from

1:37:06

something they would do because there's

1:37:07

nothing to be gained from it yeah that's

1:37:11

kind of a long winded similarity to the

1:37:15

RT report which is a little tighter the

1:37:17

British like to talk yeah there's a lot

1:37:20

different than what we get here this is

1:37:22

the CBS report on it related oil tankers

1:37:25

okay sorry about that here we go Saudi

1:37:27

Arabia and the United Arab Emirates are

1:37:30

calling for decisive action to protect

1:37:32

energy supplies after two oil tankers

1:37:35

were attacked this week President Trump

1:37:36

says Iran is to blame Charlie d'Agata is

1:37:39

in the UAE tonight

1:37:41

with the latest the tanker front all

1:37:44

tear in flames in a drift is now

1:37:46

reportedly under towed to the United

1:37:48

Arab Emirates is everything okay it's

1:37:51

twenty three crew members rescued by the

1:37:53

Iranian military and detained are soon

1:37:56

headed home to Iran insists it had

1:37:59

nothing to do with Thursday's

1:38:00

back-to-back attacks on the Altair and

1:38:02

Japanese tanker kakuka courageous

1:38:05

despite repeated accusations from the

1:38:08

Trump administration because you saw the

1:38:13

boat I guess one of the minds didn't

1:38:15

explode and it's probably got

1:38:17

essentially Iran written all over it

1:38:19

images from US military affairs the

1:38:21

president hi when he's saying this stuff

1:38:23

what is wrong with him didn't explode

1:38:29

essentially overages from US military

1:38:33

officials show a tanker with a hole

1:38:35

blown in its side and what military

1:38:37

officials say is an unexploded mine

1:38:39

still attached to the hull later the US

1:38:42

military released this grainy video

1:38:44

footage showing what appeared to be

1:38:46

Iranian forces removing the mine and

1:38:49

making off with it oh I love the grainy

1:38:51

footage we can see a matchstick from

1:38:54

space but grainy footage Germany's

1:38:57

foreign minister cast doubt on the

1:38:58

evidence and even the UAE who stopped

1:39:01

short of directly naming Iran this has

1:39:08

only been possible by a state-sponsored

1:39:12

attacks now investigators here will be

1:39:15

able to take a closer look at one of the

1:39:17

crime scenes as the kakuka courageous

1:39:19

arrives here just offshore in the coming

1:39:22

hours and its contents safely

1:39:24

transferred to another ship I would like

1:39:27

to remind us of United States Presidents

1:39:31

and these types of operations certainly

1:39:34

when the neocons were free flourishing

1:39:37

under the obama administration in 2012

1:39:41

this is Patrick Clausen of the

1:39:44

Washington Institute for Near East

1:39:46

Studies which is a neocon a whole blow

1:39:51

the world up think-tank listen to what

1:39:53

this guy was saying I frankly think that

1:39:55

crisis initiation is really tough and

1:39:58

it's very hard for me to see how the

1:40:00

United States president can get us to

1:40:03

war with Iran which leads me to conclude

1:40:07

that if in fact compromise is not coming

1:40:10

that the traditional way of America gets

1:40:13

to war is what would be best for US

1:40:15

interests some people might think that

1:40:18

mr. Roosevelt wanted to get us into the

1:40:20

World War two is David mentioned you may

1:40:21

recall we had to wait for Pearl Harbor

1:40:23

some people might think mr. Wilson

1:40:25

wanted to get us into World War one you

1:40:27

may recall he had to wait for the

1:40:28

Lusitania episode some people might

1:40:30

think that mr. Johnson wanted to send

1:40:32

troops to Vietnam you may recall they

1:40:33

had to wait for the Gulf of Tonkin

1:40:34

episode we didn't go to war with Spain

1:40:37

until the USS dental domain exploded and

1:40:41

may I point out that mr. Lincoln did not

1:40:44

feel he could call out the federal army

1:40:45

until Fort Sumter was attacked which is

1:40:47

why he ordered the commander at Fort

1:40:49

Sumter to do exactly that thing which

1:40:51

the South Carolinians had said would

1:40:52

cause an attack so if in fact the

1:40:56

Iranians aren't going to compromise it

1:40:58

would be best if somebody else started

1:40:59

the war one can combine other means of

1:41:01

pressure with sanctions

1:41:02

I mentioned that explosion on August

1:41:06

17th we could step up the pressure

1:41:08

I mean look people Iranian submarines

1:41:11

periodically go down someday one of them

1:41:13

might not come up who would know why

1:41:16

we can do a variety of things if we wish

1:41:18

to increase the pressure I'm not

1:41:20

advocating that but I'm just suggesting

1:41:22

that a it's this this is not a either-or

1:41:26

proposition you know it's just sanctions

1:41:28

has to he has to succeed or other things

1:41:30

we are in the game of using covert means

1:41:34

against the Iranians we could get

1:41:36

nastier that so the two things I thought

1:41:39

interesting about this clip from 2012 is

1:41:42

one the mention of irani and submarines

1:41:44

that could go down and not come up and

1:41:47

notice how he just skipped over 9/11 is

1:41:52

every false flag known to man even some

1:41:54

that are disputed in the lexicon there's

1:41:57

no 9/11 things I'm talk about that is a

1:41:59

skip over that but that's the thinking

1:42:02

that isn't that's what 25 years before

1:42:05

the Gulf of tompkins thing even though I

1:42:07

wouldn't do it was a fake got into the

1:42:10

news media the news media they dropped

1:42:12

the ball for 25 years

1:42:14

yeah maybe longer only have a couple

1:42:16

more than until 9/11 can be uncovered

1:42:18

for real we all just got a lot more to

1:42:21

go so that's the here's bless here what

1:42:23

RT has to say which is again very

1:42:24

similar to the BBC report with a little

1:42:26

more conceiving though it's a discussion

1:42:31

it's a little Brit gets to the point a

1:42:34

little better about what happened we

1:42:36

have not only the government sources but

1:42:38

the media rushing to pin the tail on the

1:42:40

designated culprit and under

1:42:42

circumstances that seem awfully

1:42:45

convenient don't they I mean here how

1:42:47

many people have been saying that the

1:42:48

the rush to war toward Iran seems to be

1:42:50

abating somewhat we've got we gotta be

1:42:53

going to Tehran maybe he's got a message

1:42:55

from Trump maybe there's a first step to

1:42:57

working things out and bam something

1:42:59

happens is you know it's awfully

1:43:02

convenient and you say to yourself

1:43:03

alright is it too convenient so it's

1:43:06

important to point out by the way that

1:43:07

Iran was in the midst of high-level and

1:43:09

friendly meetings with the Japanese

1:43:11

Prime Minister in and around the time

1:43:13

the tanker attacks took place what's I

1:43:17

guess most important here is that the

1:43:20

tanker was a Japanese vessel and Iran

1:43:23

officials asked what sense would it make

1:43:25

for us to attack a Japanese vessel while

1:43:27

we're meeting in a

1:43:28

confines with Japanese officials

1:43:31

meanwhile one other note and this is

1:43:33

important the attack has sent the price

1:43:36

of oil across the globe way way up and

1:43:39

the trend has continued I have a clip

1:43:43

that follows this perfectly from the CIA

1:43:46

broadcast systems CBS our old buddy Mike

1:43:49

Morell was asked to comment making

1:43:52

former a deputy director and at one

1:43:55

point acting director of CIA how much

1:43:58

risk is there of this becoming a

1:44:00

military conflict Margaret I don't think

1:44:03

the United States will respond

1:44:04

militarily here because we were not

1:44:06

attacked directly and I think that would

1:44:08

be predicates for the President to

1:44:11

respond militarily but I think the risk

1:44:13

of conflict is growing and I think it's

1:44:15

growing dangerously and I think the way

1:44:18

it could play out is that one of our

1:44:20

allies the United Arab Emirates or Saudi

1:44:22

Arabia would respond to this attack or

1:44:25

another attack like it to deter the

1:44:27

Iranians and that would escalate into a

1:44:30

broader conflict that could draw us in

1:44:32

today Iran's top diplomat called the

1:44:34

timing of this suspicious trying to

1:44:38

distance themselves from it so why would

1:44:40

they go through with an attack they are

1:44:43

under a tremendous amount of pressure

1:44:45

because of the sanctions that we've put

1:44:47

on them their economy is suffering their

1:44:50

response here is to try to get the rest

1:44:53

of the world to put pressure on us to

1:44:55

ease up and they want to do that by

1:44:58

raising oil prices and creating an

1:45:00

atmosphere of a risk of war I think it

1:45:03

ultimately backfires on them

1:45:05

Margaret and they end up more isolated

1:45:07

hmm this is this guy he's not the guy

1:45:12

you want to be doing this stuff with

1:45:14

he's not a good actor no and and he

1:45:17

doesn't make a lot of sense what he said

1:45:19

made zero sense it doesn't he just yaks

1:45:22

in the axe in yaks

1:45:23

he didn't say right what was that thing

1:45:25

always says right uses it right right

1:45:28

right right he's off of that maybe he

1:45:30

fixed that well maybe someone finally

1:45:31

said bro stop that right all the time

1:45:37

well do you have an example of him doing

1:45:39

that probably he is not

1:45:42

this off very well it's the whole thing

1:45:45

makes no sense I think if you would have

1:45:47

stuck there the other thing is you if

1:45:48

you're gonna make these kinds of dunno

1:45:50

Cohen tell points you want us to do it

1:45:54

with just finding one good point and he

1:45:57

the point was was kind of made for the

1:45:59

RT report and he Morrell made it but he

1:46:02

didn't make it strongly enough which

1:46:04

this was obvious that the Iranians are

1:46:07

trying to David hurting for money they

1:46:09

make us they make most of their money

1:46:11

still by selling oil under the table at

1:46:13

a discounted rate right so let's jack up

1:46:16

the price of oil by sending a few

1:46:18

missiles at these tankers it'll jack up

1:46:21

the price of oil we get what we will get

1:46:22

out of debt it's just it's just a money

1:46:24

grab if you just go with that I think

1:46:28

you solve did you the oh yeah that makes

1:46:29

sense

1:46:30

uh-huh and then you kind of just you

1:46:32

know just move the garment around a

1:46:34

little bit to help but how long did the

1:46:36

price actually spike and it come down

1:46:37

again isn't it isn't it I think it's not

1:46:41

it's not spy a never spiked it started

1:46:44

moving up I mean it's different than

1:46:46

moving up in a spike right well the

1:46:49

thing is I mean no matter what if you're

1:46:51

on the inside of these types of

1:46:53

operations it's a moneymaker oh yeah for

1:46:56

sure I mean if we had known hey ain't

1:46:59

gonna make a big deal about some

1:47:01

Japanese ship by a couple calls and oil

1:47:05

or whatever the instrument is there's

1:47:08

all kinds of ways of doing it let's see

1:47:10

what the place up all kinds of ways that

1:47:12

we never do it is what you're trying to

1:47:13

tell me last was 5251 it but let's no I

1:47:18

thought I thought it went up to a sixty

1:47:20

plus I think that was Brent OH

1:47:24

two guys in oil and the cheese your one

1:47:28

is cheaper but what's the cheetah crew

1:47:31

that crude oil

1:47:32

what is it cheesy it's because you got a

1:47:35

salt a lot of sulphur in and has to be

1:47:36

treated it was just cheesy oil was what

1:47:41

most oil is it's not the great stuff but

1:47:44

you know what no one ever talks about is

1:47:45

what is to become of Iran once we go

1:47:49

full fledge your clip play

1:47:55

I said what does it become from Iran

1:47:57

where you go we go full carbon-neutral

1:48:02

well they they themselves believe that

1:48:06

the oil is a short-term thing because

1:48:09

there they want to be and they claim

1:48:10

this I don't believe I do believe I do

1:48:13

believe that they are building bombs or

1:48:16

they want to build bombs but they want

1:48:17

to build nuclear power plants yeah

1:48:22

and it sort of Saudi Arabia actually and

1:48:24

then something like I said what's one of

1:48:26

the countries I think it's one of the

1:48:29

sand bearing countries there they put up

1:48:32

these giant solar arrays that are

1:48:34

massive and they're just covering a

1:48:35

bunch of truly lifeless desert anyway so

1:48:49

uh Dion the other news front

1:48:53

well there was shed needed to catch up

1:48:55

on yeah

1:48:56

his Assange ah yes I guess the extra

1:49:01

extradition order was was signed I'm not

1:49:07

absolutely sure was signed but I do have

1:49:10

some interesting clips on again from RT

1:49:15

sorry I would the first one is they got

1:49:18

two of them so you want you don't want

1:49:20

to thought you went Julian Assange or

1:49:21

the Rick Sanchez and a rundown with a

1:49:24

kicker Julian Assange appeared in court

1:49:26

today for what may very well be one of

1:49:29

the most important legal decisions of

1:49:31

our time on trial is the notion that a

1:49:36

country in this case our country can

1:49:39

reach out anywhere in the world and

1:49:41

arrest someone for writing something

1:49:43

saying something or publishing something

1:49:46

it does not want decimated

1:49:50

now he said he's supposed to say

1:49:53

disseminated he said decimated and he

1:49:56

stupidly said decimate kind of fits in

1:49:59

an odd way it does fit in an odd way but

1:50:02

is a blood complexion a kick out of

1:50:05

hearing because he never corrected

1:50:06

himself longer so he's obviously just

1:50:08

reading like a robot if you're not

1:50:10

listening to yourself anyway it goes on

1:50:12

he brings in Chris Hedges they kind of

1:50:14

lefty Pulitzer Prize winning journalist

1:50:17

who's really a good journalist and but

1:50:19

he's you know very compromised by by his

1:50:24

left-wing leanings thoughts on killing

1:50:26

kill thoughts on Julian Assange on RT

1:50:30

with hedges Sanchez clip you know I've

1:50:33

been following part of the arguments

1:50:35

from the United States and they're

1:50:37

saying something about that it has

1:50:38

nothing to do with him being someone who

1:50:40

disseminates or publishes information

1:50:41

and that it has more to do with the fact

1:50:43

that it was espionage and that he

1:50:45

cracked some kind of code I could you

1:50:49

can can you put some clarity behind what

1:50:52

the United States is saying about this

1:50:53

code that he apparently cracked and what

1:50:56

Assange his side is saying about this

1:50:59

right well that goes back to the issue I

1:51:01

just spoke about it was an attempt to

1:51:05

essentially bypass the security the

1:51:08

password and security so that Chelsea

1:51:12

Manning could cover her tracks so it

1:51:14

wasn't zero that it was Chelsea many

1:51:16

breaking in and and downloading these

1:51:21

documents the the charges under the

1:51:25

Espionage Act are just frankly legally

1:51:27

bizarre Julian Assange is not an

1:51:30

American citizen he's an Australian

1:51:33

citizen and at one point before Lennon

1:51:37

marina revoked his citizenship he was an

1:51:39

Ecuadorian citizen WikiLeaks is not a

1:51:42

us-based publication and so the legal

1:51:44

precedent that this sets is number one

1:51:48

that anyone who publishes classified

1:51:50

material it can be subject to the

1:51:54

Espionage Act as recent editorials in

1:51:56

The New York Times the Los Angeles Times

1:51:58

and The Washington Post correctly

1:52:00

pointed out but secondly the

1:52:03

any journalist anywhere in the world

1:52:05

that in the eyes of the United States

1:52:09

violates security can be seized and

1:52:14

carted back to the United States for

1:52:16

trial

1:52:16

well yeah that's why China decided to do

1:52:20

the same thing like tit for tat

1:52:21

everybody the correlation I wanted to

1:52:25

make yeah

1:52:26

China and there s you know their

1:52:28

extradition laws in Hong Kong which have

1:52:31

some clips of coz that seems to be

1:52:32

falling apart is doing the same thing

1:52:34

they're just copying our lead and

1:52:37

there's nothing wrong with it

1:52:39

we're number one baby so Chris Hedges on

1:52:43

espionage II continues by discussing the

1:52:45

chilling effect of the Espionage Act and

1:52:47

this presents problems and I think you

1:52:50

know the fact that I have to go to RT to

1:52:53

get this opinion and even though we can

1:52:55

do these opinions herself it's kind of

1:52:58

pathetic that the American media doesn't

1:53:00

do something about or make a bigger

1:53:02

stink about this Chris Hedges on

1:53:04

espionage Espionage Act problems right

1:53:07

and I have to say this began under the

1:53:08

Obama administration with the misuse of

1:53:10

the Espionage Act a 1917 Act passed by

1:53:15

Woodrow Wilson which was the equivalent

1:53:17

of the British foreign Secrets Act ie it

1:53:20

is about giving classified or top-secret

1:53:24

information to a hostile power that's

1:53:26

what it was designed for it wasn't

1:53:28

designed to shut down whistleblowers

1:53:30

Obama had been used three times

1:53:33

including unsuccessfully against Daniel

1:53:36

Ellsberg Obama used it nine times

1:53:37

against uh for instance Edward Snowden

1:53:40

and others John Kiriakou and and that

1:53:44

had a huge chilling effect because all

1:53:46

of those people with a conscience within

1:53:48

the systems of power that traditionally

1:53:50

had had the courage to reach out to

1:53:53

journalists and expose abuses of power

1:53:56

no longer did so because number one of

1:53:59

course they're they know they're

1:54:00

monitored we now know from Snowden

1:54:02

they're completely monitored but also

1:54:03

because they knew how they would be

1:54:05

charged and this is really compounding

1:54:08

that problem it will now if Julian is

1:54:12

extradited to the United States if he is

1:54:15

charged on

1:54:16

the espionage act although as I

1:54:18

mentioned he's not a US citizen this is

1:54:20

going to send a very ominous message to

1:54:25

publications like the New York Times and

1:54:27

others that you better not try this I

1:54:29

really fear that it could drop a kind of

1:54:34

Iron Curtain between the public and the

1:54:38

inner workings of power I think it bears

1:54:41

as worth repeating what botanic said

1:54:45

about this since he is my official

1:54:47

Handler and we did this and what two

1:54:51

weeks ago just to refresh your memory on

1:54:55

November 1st of 2016 we had never heard

1:54:58

of botanic but I played this clip so we

1:55:01

initiated a counter-coup through Julian

1:55:04

massage who's been very brave and again

1:55:07

really quite formidable in his and his

1:55:11

ability to come forth and provide all

1:55:14

the necessary emails that we gave to him

1:55:17

in order to undermine Hillary and Bill

1:55:20

Clinton again America we're going

1:55:23

through a major major transition and

1:55:25

quite frankly a second American

1:55:27

Revolution and when I asked him what are

1:55:32

we doing he's very brave we we the big

1:55:35

we gave him the emails to eliminate

1:55:39

Hillary and Bill Clinton what are we

1:55:41

going to do when we extradite him and

1:55:44

the answer that came back was the

1:55:46

extradition is under we'll go he will go

1:55:48

to a military court where he will be

1:55:51

sent home and set free under quote

1:55:54

special circumstances which the military

1:55:56

does not have to disclose and I'm gonna

1:56:00

take his word for it

1:56:02

yeah there's that happening is not going

1:56:06

to change the fact that this still will

1:56:10

have a chilling effect on the media the

1:56:12

agree agreed agreed

1:56:14

bringing the guy back and making it you

1:56:16

know making a fuss about him and then

1:56:18

saying this is gonna happen to you too

1:56:20

if you do anything like this it still

1:56:23

has its it still works and the fact that

1:56:26

Obama did this night use the this

1:56:30

that's been I'll Jack nine times this

1:56:32

act is completely the dead-letter law it

1:56:34

shouldn't even be on the books including

1:56:37

the one he mentioned the one guy the

1:56:38

Kuryakin never pronounce his name the

1:56:40

guy was an innocent Eric you Kira cue

1:56:44

Kira Kira Kira curious went to jail the

1:56:46

guy went to jail yeah five of

1:56:50

whistleblowers from the NSD out of the

1:56:53

NSA kept seeing wrongdoing and nobody

1:56:59

would listen of course they have to

1:57:00

always there's mechanisms you can go and

1:57:02

you can tell your boss and then he'll

1:57:03

report it and then the bad the bad

1:57:06

people will be you know scolded yeah it

1:57:11

doesn't work so we went you know blew it

1:57:14

out and took it to the media anyway so

1:57:18

it's a problem well not a problem for us

1:57:21

no we just no not really

1:57:23

we're just a podcast we're not doing we

1:57:26

do analysis we don't do we don't find

1:57:29

documents and then expose them well we

1:57:32

get lots of information from people

1:57:34

that's for sure and we need more of that

1:57:38

but never real I've never received any

1:57:40

documents so to speak of anything good

1:57:45

anything worthwhile good or no for sure

1:57:49

so just back to Iran for a second when I

1:57:54

hear the president talk like that it's

1:57:58

that's gotta be just total crap he knows

1:58:01

this is bullshit he knows it you sure

1:58:04

yeah

1:58:05

yeah I think so still got Bolton working

1:58:09

in there which is the disappointing part

1:58:11

because that guy's trigger-happy and

1:58:14

dangerous with pompe I put Pompeo there

1:58:16

too oh yeah most of them but as a

1:58:19

negotiation because he does talk but oh

1:58:21

yeah no I didn't negotiate with him

1:58:23

we'll talk anytime they want to talk

1:58:24

that seems to be kind of the way he does

1:58:26

it

1:58:28

but what really happened if this was a

1:58:32

if they try to do a gulf of tonkin or

1:58:35

elicit a Nia or any of these which is

1:58:38

the interestingly a lot of these

1:58:39

quote-unquote false flags involved ships

1:58:42

what the hell kind of lame op was this

1:58:46

and these ships didn't sink and then

1:58:50

explode and a ball of fire yeah they've

1:58:55

been tugged back to wherever know that

1:58:57

they didn't sink who it's something we

1:59:01

have to think about a torpedo Sears a

1:59:04

torpedo and it torpedo strike that

1:59:06

torpedo everyone's pulled back on the

1:59:08

tour top okay now they're like little

1:59:11

you know little missiles or something

1:59:12

coming and hitting the sides of the boat

1:59:14

hmm the torpedo theory was debunked I

1:59:18

think because somebody was on the deck

1:59:20

and saw that missiles coming in missiles

1:59:23

yeah yeah yeah that where the if you

1:59:27

look at the ship they had the tube dents

1:59:29

in the side yeah those are for missiles

1:59:32

somebody shot something low grade

1:59:34

missile it bounced along the water just

1:59:37

above the waterline and hit the boat

1:59:38

he's more like a like a starter pistol a

1:59:43

missile remember those missiles the

1:59:45

French had these missiles that were used

1:59:47

to sing some boats during the Falkland

1:59:50

Islands Wars and I don't recall yeah I

1:59:53

can't remember the name said some in the

1:59:54

chat rooms will remember the name of

1:59:57

these anti-ship missiles I think I think

2:00:00

I think the the exact quote was quote

2:00:03

flying objects well not quite the same

2:00:08

as a missile yeah it is yeah it can be

2:00:11

throw a rocket somebody it's a missile

2:00:13

it's also a flying okay alright alright

2:00:15

then good I got you

2:00:17

I got you you get my point though sings

2:00:22

Lena but what kind of flying out you

2:00:24

would be a couple seagulls with bombs

2:00:25

attached I mean I just don't understand

2:00:29

if ur n't perspective and I'll give you

2:00:30

a reason to fire Bolton and Pompeyo this

2:00:33

fail outright to fail Venezuela if it

2:00:40

was designed to do nothing more than

2:00:42

raise the price of oil it didn't okay

2:00:44

that was that was what we what we came

2:00:47

up with on the last show but but you

2:00:50

know the president's oh yes is whether

2:00:51

this was an attack these guys are

2:00:53

failing left and right Venezuela what

2:00:55

happened in Venezuela did that just end

2:00:58

everything is hunky-dory don't hear

2:00:59

about it anymore

2:01:01

did we take over are we running the

2:01:04

place is a quad you're saying I see what

2:01:09

you're where you're headed you're headed

2:01:10

with the whole thing so incompetent

2:01:12

completely fire end up far these

2:01:17

boneheads don't sink a ship I'm gonna

2:01:21

show my food by donation to no agenda

2:01:24

imagine all the people who could do is

2:01:25

awesome oh yeah

2:01:34

well we do have a few people to thank

2:01:36

for show 1147 and we do have with some

2:01:39

call-outs for some dads it's nice right

2:01:42

off the top here which is Sir John the

2:01:43

brewer came in 194 dollars and 70 cents

2:01:46

for same base st. Louis Mississippi and

2:01:51

he his father Jack was born in 1947 he

2:01:57

doesn't listen to the show but well

2:01:59

wishes anyway need to update my night

2:02:01

monikers I'm no longer brewing

2:02:03

Sir John the brewer is now sir rocket

2:02:07

man Baron of the bay oh let me just make

2:02:10

sure he's yes he's on the tire change

2:02:12

list yeah yeah he's no longer brewing no

2:02:15

he's Rocket Man heck well it could be

2:02:19

good for us maybe we used to get beer

2:02:23

from now I'm gonna get rocket I don't

2:02:25

know we'll get some rocket info for sure

2:02:27

you know maybe I know what you're gonna

2:02:30

dress I read these you look over and see

2:02:31

there's any dad's who call out I think

2:02:33

there isn't a couple of instances where

2:02:35

Hugh since we since it's a pretty short

2:02:37

list I do want to read a few of these

2:02:39

Peter white who is the the jubu now we

2:02:43

met the jubu at at the London Meetup and

2:02:46

he's a a Jewish Buddhist which is why

2:02:49

it's called the Jew Boo and his 108

2:02:52

dollars he says is a very sacred

2:02:54

powerful donation of course we know now

2:02:56

that 18 is a Jewish sacred offering

2:02:58

number combined with six the number that

2:03:01

manifests intention and ideas in the

2:03:04

physical world is 108 by this offering

2:03:08

by offering this three point three point

2:03:13

three point two point two may the

2:03:16

guardians of reality be empowered to

2:03:18

continue their vital deconstruction work

2:03:20

and many be hit in the mouth I

2:03:22

understood most of that but otherwise

2:03:25

thank you very much jubu like jew blue

2:03:30

just sounds funny

2:03:32

Gwendolyn Adams comes in next 103

2:03:35

dollars and 15 cents as she is a note

2:03:37

yeah hello gentlemen

2:03:40

Congrats Adam and Tina I'd like to wish

2:03:42

my longtime love and baby daddy bill a

2:03:44

Happy Father's Day

2:03:45

like my donation account towards his

2:03:48

eventual title edge don't forget I

2:03:51

shouldn't mention this because we're

2:03:53

seeing more and more people discussing

2:03:55

these these movements of money as if we

2:03:58

we account for it as a contraction yeah

2:04:01

you do your accounting if you want to

2:04:03

designate so much of your donation to

2:04:06

bill then you just do that when when it

2:04:09

comes around time for him to be knighted

2:04:11

or whatever he becomes when it was first

2:04:15

she were they two of them went to the

2:04:17

first meetup in Sarasota two weeks ago

2:04:18

and had a great time it was three ladies

2:04:20

and several dudes named Ben of course

2:04:22

mostly boot dudes named Ben she says in

2:04:25

parens everyone agree we should do it

2:04:28

again hopefully we will I suppose I

2:04:29

should call out the other listeners that

2:04:31

aren't attending their own meetups has

2:04:34

douche bags hey oh oh oh oh boy

2:04:40

something douche bag short circuit

2:04:43

ladies let me see bag douche bag short

2:04:46

circuit well let's see if I can fix this

2:04:48

what's going on here let me see I fixed

2:04:53

it thank you for your hard work guest

2:04:57

row is always informative yes and we

2:04:59

would love to go to a Miss Florida

2:05:01

meetup to me Matt in Brighton and she

2:05:05

came in with a hundred three dollars and

2:05:06

fifteen cents Matt in Brighton oh yes

2:05:09

Matt gave us an empty envelope during

2:05:15

the Meetup yeah and this is feeling the

2:05:18

empty envelope I gave Adam matter

2:05:20

Brighton thank you for your courage

2:05:21

appreciate it cute

2:05:23

Gregory McGregor in Madrid espana

2:05:26

hundred dollars in one cent

2:05:31

does he have a debt here he's got some

2:05:33

two-year-old signed former jingle oh you

2:05:36

went the other ways karma for his wife

2:05:37

we'll put that at the end for yes for

2:05:39

special shout-out to all producers in

2:05:40

Spain Donald Cogan 9999 a newsletter

2:05:49

called donation Father's Day No

2:05:51

bang-bang nah yes my smoking out husband

2:05:54

sword eh slammer a happy Father's Day

2:05:56

and a happy birthday on June 20 he's one

2:05:58

of the guys who monitors the newsletter

2:06:01

and word shows up in what mailbox mm-hmm

2:06:03

yeah so he comes with this last one it

2:06:06

came in the last May mailing was weird

2:06:08

because he came in the set it was went

2:06:11

to the regular box yeah and there was a

2:06:13

lot of kickback a lot of you know

2:06:15

auto-replies when it was more than three

2:06:18

of those I know that the newsletter went

2:06:19

out and did okay he's a canary in the

2:06:22

coalmine ways one of them mm-hmm every

2:06:25

single other monitor I have there's

2:06:27

about five or six of them they all said

2:06:29

it went into promotions toll of the

2:06:33

thing is completely baffling he says I

2:06:35

wish to lose my smoking out husband

2:06:37

sturdy edge slammer happy Father's Day

2:06:39

and a happy birthday on June 18th yeah I

2:06:41

think I think we congratulated him on

2:06:43

the last show for that as well here are

2:06:44

some boobs for your special day which

2:06:46

he's saying to to sir d8 slammer not to

2:06:49

us sadly love you mean it Oh eight love

2:06:53

you mean it can I get a boobs ballpark

2:06:55

jingle and some gold karma she's the

2:07:00

Baroness of the central California coast

2:07:01

yeah what's the wine growing yes in

2:07:04

boobs boobs ballpark no no let me see

2:07:09

Santa conveyed Oh a from my dad Ron

2:07:12

mmm-hmm George

2:07:15

coonass seventy his wishes that happy

2:07:20

Father's Day Trevor Naismith the

2:07:23

inventor of basketball douchebag call

2:07:27

out for uncle uncle bobber or Bober

2:07:32

listening for years add some value for

2:07:34

value the show got you through enough

2:07:36

multiple deployments NK o NK aw TG n no

2:07:44

karma akarma and with T G and and will

2:07:50

Garmin and we will figure it out Eric

2:08:01

spun seller 6666 black night

2:08:05

Oh black no uh Black Knight of the sir

2:08:10

linemen of the net Rolly hawk yes Anna

2:08:13

Illinois 6611 James durante 6161

2:08:19

and he wishes us a Happy Father's Day

2:08:21

and to his dad happy Father's Day dad -

2:08:25

my dad John and to myself I Tim yes

2:08:28

thank you sir daddy cast 6160 he wishes

2:08:32

a happy Father's Day - crackpot buzzkill

2:08:34

and the producers Pop's david richie

2:08:38

6133 happy Father's Day everyone

2:08:40

show 1139 was outstanding was 1139 guru

2:08:45

even it had this feedback before in 1139

2:08:48

Ryan Brady $58 from Pittsburgh

2:08:52

Pennsylvania in honor of his late father

2:08:53

liked him loved listening to you guys

2:08:56

Miguel Lopez in Flanders New Jersey 5678

2:08:59

happy Father's Day to my dad Tony Lopez

2:09:01

11 lease 1139 was your interview show o

2:09:07

ly skarbek in Springfield Pennsylvania

2:09:11

if it's 5:10 for my dad Jimmy now we got

2:09:14

a lot of dads yeah yeah I think we were

2:09:17

kind of off there a lot of people love

2:09:18

their dads yeah well I'm sorry I said

2:09:21

otherwise

2:09:21

sir milkman the 5115 your dear grandpa

2:09:28

passed away two weeks ago he's a loving

2:09:30

father and stepfather to our dad Patrick

2:09:35

Gus for Patrick Coble there in

2:09:37

Murphysboro

2:09:38

51 or nearby 51:36 happy Father's Day to

2:09:42

my dad and to all the producers that are

2:09:45

dads to some travel karma as I head back

2:09:48

from the London Meetup what a great

2:09:50

group of people and I think they will be

2:09:52

doing it again

2:09:52

it was more difficult it was a more

2:09:56

difficult task to pay for almost

2:09:58

everyone's tab Oh Patrick wind up paying

2:10:03

for everybody that's what it sounds like

2:10:05

she does that he has this guy he is a

2:10:09

true gem of a human resource what a

2:10:13

great guy the Earl of Tennessee's our

2:10:15

Patrick Coble thank you so much it is

2:10:18

quite entertaining

2:10:18

to talk to you I was able to treat a lot

2:10:21

of people with drinks which was fun

2:10:23

thank you both for everything you do for

2:10:25

this community after going to now for

2:10:28

different meetups Nashville Sacramento

2:10:30

train museum Des Moines and London it is

2:10:32

clear you are all building a community

2:10:34

of similar thinking people that may not

2:10:36

all agree but can deconstruct news and

2:10:39

have different opinions without getting

2:10:41

upset that's correct

2:10:46

Matthew Smith fifty one dollars in the

2:10:48

UK sir Jackson and level in Texas fifty

2:10:51

fifty like to do a Father's Day call it

2:10:54

for my dad Dan Butler my grandpa Harold

2:10:59

Harold quarter and my father-in-law

2:11:02

Santos karma for all the fathers out

2:11:04

there we'll put that Bend john camp in

2:11:06

antlers Oklahoma fifty the following

2:11:08

people are fifty dollar donors name in

2:11:10

location if possible sir Jackson was in

2:11:12

level in Texas John camp is an antlers

2:11:14

Oklahoma Chris like Serena I'm thinking

2:11:18

cat can Tonya fifty parts unknown Dame

2:11:23

Beth Dame Karen cell sore too sir

2:11:30

Bradley cell sore best dad in the

2:11:32

universe from name's Karen John holler

2:11:35

in Missoula Montana

2:11:37

Keith Yarborough and Austin Texas paint

2:11:40

snakes or pay Amsterdam sir pay sir paid

2:11:44

sir paid uh sir Chris Lewinsky for that

2:11:48

matter in Sherwood Alberta once the

2:11:51

richest place and then and last but not

2:11:54

least Oliver Reich in South San

2:11:57

Francisco California who should come to

2:11:59

one of our meet us when we do him around

2:12:00

here let's see what else we have here

2:12:02

then might we have a Father's Day caught

2:12:03

from Melissa - best dad's my hook and

2:12:07

the best dads I know my smoking-hot best

2:12:09

boyfriend Mark Stewart uh we have a

2:12:13

birthday from one guy see we get we have

2:12:15

met Matthew funk I think he's saying

2:12:19

happy Father's Day to Bob funk

2:12:21

Bakersfield Lisa Stelter happy Father's

2:12:24

Day to Paul from Lisa Emilia's and Sammy

2:12:27

and our soon-to-be new human resource

2:12:28

Olivia

2:12:29

and let me scroll down I think that's

2:12:33

what we have one of one of our producers

2:12:37

sent me an email and I wish that let me

2:12:42

see if I could find this it was a it was

2:12:45

a happy there was a happy dad happy

2:12:48

Father's Day card from his 15 year old

2:12:50

and it said in an Indy sent me a picture

2:12:53

of it

2:12:53

his happy birthday to the best dad in

2:12:55

the universe according to the mullet

2:12:57

report all right that's it now that's a

2:12:59

cool kid I like that a lot it's very

2:13:03

funny well that's it that's our group of

2:13:08

well-wishers and Father's Day greeters

2:13:10

there be some carryover in the next show

2:13:12

on Thursday I'm sure there's a few

2:13:13

people came in late with some well

2:13:15

wishes for their father and we'll put

2:13:17

the put that on the next show so just

2:13:19

stay tuned you will not be forgotten

2:13:22

yeah that's all of the donations and

2:13:24

support of the show we're always

2:13:25

appreciative and I think it is pretty

2:13:28

clear that the producers love dads more

2:13:31

than moms I can't help it it's just as

2:13:33

to what it is I'm having to agree with

2:13:37

you it's what it seems to be we of

2:13:39

course always get them good gypped I

2:13:43

know poor moms Egypt we do appreciate

2:13:47

everyone's support of the show including

2:13:49

those under $50 which is often for

2:13:51

reasons of anonymity we did a couple of

2:13:53

them today because they specifically

2:13:54

called out the dads for happy Father's

2:13:56

Day and happy Father's Day to you John

2:13:57

might as well just say that all works oh

2:13:59

happy Father's Day to you thank you very

2:14:01

much

2:14:01

and oh good news Podcast license com

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jobs and jobs let's vote for job you've

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got karma

2:14:56

yeah we really only have two today is

2:14:58

the 16th of June 2019 Yahoo Alvez turns

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33 tomorrow the magic number and we

2:15:05

might as well say happy birthday began

2:15:06

to sur D H slammer o beasts up low

2:15:09

celebrating on the 18th of June happy

2:15:11

birthday from us and everybody here at

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the best podcast in the universe around

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you say is we are brothers and sisters

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them nights so

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title changes on deck today and that is

2:15:40

often because of the upgrade in status

2:15:44

with another thousand dollars supported

2:15:46

the show Sir John the Brewer had now

2:15:47

become Sir rocket man Baron of the bay

2:15:50

congratulations to Sir Dave becomes vai

2:15:53

count of America's heartland and Saudi

2:15:56

Arabia and thank you also for your

2:15:58

support quick list of are a look at our

2:16:00

meet ups now this just came I don't

2:16:03

think is listed yet on no agenda meet up

2:16:06

calm by the way is there is it just me

2:16:10

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the problem is that these these podcast

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bullcrap podcasts the ones that are

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largely repurposed NPR shows is not a

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podcast yeah Michael Savage is actually

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doing a podcast

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he's been kind of kicked off the air for

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some reason it started with WABC in New

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York off by Ben Ben Shapiro Schapiro yes

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taken over a soupy Rose neocon pretty

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much a trump hating neocon who just puts

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up with Trump so he doesn't get hate

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mail doesn't if you remember he's set up

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with the Lewinsky they got Lewinsky

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fired where that girl was manhandled by

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mousie or whatever is the lewandowski's

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his name and then you watch the video

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bullcrap and then you know she tweeted a

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picture of her wrist was blue

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most yeah and then yeah you make up I'll

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do that by the way good make up you know

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how you do these make up you can make

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anything look bruised so you so she's

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got a picture and so here got all bent

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out of shape and say and you cuz

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Breitbart knew this was a scam or

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bullcrap and so he got bent out of shape

2:20:21

and said oh my god I'm quitting

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I'm quitting Breitbart I'm gonna go

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we're gonna start our own magazine it

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was obviously in the works the Daily

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Caller died yes yes he went over there

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and that's where he created his podcast

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which became a radio show and I'm not

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gonna say he's not a decent broadcaster

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I mean he's he's not the best I've ever

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heard but he's professional enough that

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he can do it

2:20:44

mm-hmm and but he's still a truck you

2:20:48

know and he was a Trump hater all along

2:20:49

and now he relents he relents because he

2:20:55

was just what's his choice he's got no

2:20:57

other choice he's got to fall in line

2:20:59

with one of these Democrats are no good

2:21:00

so uh but he's a neocon of sorts and I

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don't trust him you know the keeper used

2:21:11

to listen to him a lot and she actually

2:21:14

kind of got turned off by his

2:21:16

transitions to ads it's so jarring it's

2:21:20

so jarring blacks yeah not moving he

2:21:25

can't even say I mean his segways are so

2:21:28

termed dorky and then it's before you

2:21:32

know like what is this it's just yelling

2:21:33

at you wouldn't had apparently I think

2:21:36

she stopped listening because of that

2:21:37

because of the odd the yeah just jarring

2:21:41

she said jarring it is jarring he's not

2:21:44

good at that is this a that's a certain

2:21:46

skill that he doesn't have but but he

2:21:51

clearly has an audience of hot chicks

2:21:58

some women consider him to be a handsome

2:22:01

fast talker there you go quick on the

2:22:05

draw he's definitely a guy you wouldn't

2:22:09

want to get into an argument with

2:22:10

because he is a quick-witted very quick

2:22:15

see oh yes I've been holding on this for

2:22:19

a bit here and let's see we have some

2:22:21

green New Deal stuff Oh what did I oh

2:22:26

yeah California it's very interesting

2:22:29

uber alles yeah you know California is

2:22:34

now trying to and there's reasons for

2:22:37

this is trying to cement into the psyche

2:22:42

that hydropower ie

2:22:46

water is not renewable energy they don't

2:22:52

yeah they don't want it to count as

2:22:54

renewable energy where I think it's just

2:22:57

like Sun and wind isn't it kind of the

2:22:59

definition of renewable energy yeah did

2:23:03

you put a dam up it fills up it water

2:23:05

goes through the dam and it's great

2:23:06

electricity it rains fills the dam up

2:23:09

goes through this yeah it's very

2:23:10

renewable so the how is it less

2:23:13

renewable than sunshine well here here's

2:23:16

where here's what becomes important I'm

2:23:18

sorry important important it becomes

2:23:20

important where they have targets to hit

2:23:24

yeah by 2030 60 percent of all

2:23:27

electricity in California a needs to

2:23:29

come from renewable sources so does this

2:23:32

mean that they're trying to get more

2:23:33

money into wind and solar and say oh I

2:23:35

don't know that doesn't count you can't

2:23:37

say that that's part of our 60% more

2:23:40

money into wind and solar

2:23:41

where's I think hydropower is without

2:23:44

question very effective well they've

2:23:49

been taking some dams out now brother

2:23:52

and they did that in Washington State -

2:23:54

they screwed up some area that why why

2:23:57

are they taking the dams out the fish

2:24:02

well here's the doofus of the week clip

2:24:05

from that Trudeau York and an avian p.m.

2:24:12

hey this is virtue signaling gone wrong

2:24:16

where he is asked about what he's really

2:24:18

doing to conserve and to to be a part of

2:24:21

him not ruining the environment you and

2:24:24

your family do to cut back on plastics

2:24:28

we we have recently switched to drinking

2:24:32

water bottles out of water out of when

2:24:35

we have water bottles out of a plastic

2:24:38

I'm sorry away from plastic towards

2:24:41

paper like drink box water bottles sort

2:24:45

of things there's there's a number drink

2:24:54

box water bottles type of things you

2:24:58

want to hear that one again you and your

2:25:02

family do to cut back on plastics we we

2:25:07

have recently switched to drinking water

2:25:10

bottles out of water out of when we have

2:25:13

water bottles out of a plastic I'm sorry

2:25:17

away from plastic towards paper like

2:25:22

drink box water bottles sort of things

2:25:23

there's bottle thing kind of for you

2:25:29

please say we don't use plastic we're

2:25:32

we're we're good we're good the

2:25:33

environment that's virtue signaling gone

2:25:36

wrong listen to me well as epic fail

2:25:39

yes druid read you what name would show

2:25:43

me a picture one of these drink box

2:25:45

water things so the FCC is is working on

2:25:54

some tactics here regarding 5g which is

2:26:00

probably worth looking at now we know

2:26:03

that as 5g rolls out there's a whole

2:26:06

bunch of issues with where we're going

2:26:08

to place where we where the the

2:26:12

microwave transmitters are going to be

2:26:14

placed and already we have you know the

2:26:18

municipalities are in one's passing laws

2:26:21

they want to make sure that you know

2:26:23

there's not too much money can be spent

2:26:25

and the networks are looking for ways

2:26:28

easy ways to pay people with properties

2:26:32

to put up antennas basically and there's

2:26:36

a there's an acronym for it it's hard

2:26:38

which I'd like a lot o tarde everybody

2:26:41

it turns out the

2:26:42

Federal Communications Commission the

2:26:43

FCC has an old rule called the Oh tarde

2:26:46

rule which stands for over-the-air

2:26:49

reception device the rule was adopted as

2:26:52

part of the 1996 Telecommunications Act

2:26:54

and it prohibits any local authority or

2:26:57

private landlord from restricting the

2:26:59

right of home owners or tenants to

2:27:01

install a satellite dish or other

2:27:03

antenna to receive video signals back in

2:27:06

2002 in response to the fast growing

2:27:08

Internet the FCC changed the wording of

2:27:11

this rule to include transmitting

2:27:13

antennas as well as receiving antennas

2:27:15

but even then the antenna had to be

2:27:18

primarily for use by the tenant or

2:27:20

homeowner the Oh tard rule has never

2:27:22

ever applied to transmitting antennas

2:27:25

intended to send signals to other people

2:27:28

in the neighborhood until now the FCC

2:27:30

has quietly proposed a change in the Oh

2:27:33

Tod rule that would cover what they call

2:27:35

hubs this would allow any homeowner to

2:27:38

have a 5g wireless antenna installed on

2:27:41

his property and according to the FCC

2:27:43

and power consumers to help bring

2:27:46

competitive wireless broadband to their

2:27:48

communities by hosting hub sites oh yeah

2:27:50

since the antennas will be on private

2:27:53

property

2:27:53

there will be no hearing no notice no

2:27:56

opportunity to object you might not even

2:27:59

know about it unless of course you had a

2:28:01

meter to measure the radiation so this

2:28:04

is concerning that your neighbor can now

2:28:06

put one at will when the rule changes

2:28:08

your neighbor could put up a hub and be

2:28:11

bland the rule sorry stop the rule yeah

2:28:15

but they're all for the rule there's a

2:28:19

dumb rule this is now I'm very earthed

2:28:24

about this by the way if I thoughtyou

2:28:26

I'm glad you are so do you so I have one

2:28:30

of these 5g repeaters in my roof yeah

2:28:34

the beam down on my neighbor's that's a

2:28:37

yes stir-fry aap yes yeah yeah you'll

2:28:40

get paid so much I don't know yet but

2:28:42

I'm sure handsomely I know you get paid

2:28:46

handsomely if you have a giant cell

2:28:49

tower with a whole bunch of antennas and

2:28:51

radios on the you've seen this there's a

2:28:53

book story if you want that most famous

2:28:55

bookstores in Detroit that is an old

2:28:58

used bookstore that's like six seven

2:29:00

stories high of all the maybe taller of

2:29:03

just a fantastic collection of old books

2:29:06

mm-hmm as everyone in Detroit knows this

2:29:08

place is very famous and I've always

2:29:10

wondered how that you ever make a living

2:29:12

it cuz all the good old bookstores like

2:29:13

homes in Oakland for example have been

2:29:16

shut down because it really didn't

2:29:17

nobody buy his most nobody gives a shit

2:29:19

but then I saw in the roof they have a

2:29:22

huge antenna array they're making all

2:29:24

their money uh you know by selling their

2:29:28

roof to uh the cellphone guys and they

2:29:31

make a lot of money I think he get paid

2:29:32

a fortune for having one of these towers

2:29:34

like ten grand a month oh really oh

2:29:36

that's pretty damn good

2:29:37

why and there was a number floating

2:29:40

around I can't remember it but if you're

2:29:42

gonna put this thing in your house and

2:29:44

you're gonna be sitting there as a as a

2:29:45

stool pigeon stupid transmitter you

2:29:48

better get paid a grand or two yeah then

2:29:51

what they can't afford it but regardless

2:29:54

you'll be called an O tard I just like

2:29:57

the name I just like we got all kinds of

2:30:00

tards and I'm happy that we you know if

2:30:02

you're all it this is just a new no

2:30:03

agenda rule if you're all in on 5g

2:30:06

you're a note art I've advised people I

2:30:11

have one of these getting some of these

2:30:12

signal processing little device handheld

2:30:15

devices used to have two of them you

2:30:17

should have one that does radiofrequency

2:30:18

and it can sense all these frequencies

2:30:21

around so you can see if you gotta you

2:30:23

would still want a spectrum analyzer

2:30:24

what do you have yes exactly which we

2:30:26

and that much more is a little handy I

2:30:28

want to know what you have so we can we

2:30:30

can offer these I have to go kind of

2:30:32

lost it in the house but don't worry

2:30:36

it's under some recipes somewhere it's

2:30:38

around the other one I was looking at

2:30:41

this because I was watching some guy

2:30:43

floating around in one of his youtube

2:30:44

videos for this little guy gir counter

2:30:46

and he's had the brand he showed the guy

2:30:48

you're kind of and I looked up the

2:30:49

brands this Geiger counter custard

2:30:50

thousand dollars low expensive I start

2:30:52

looking into Amazon for geiger counters

2:30:55

and there's some pretty cheap Geiger

2:30:57

counters you can get that are apparently

2:31:00

are quite good but what does it respond

2:31:02

to it responds to plutonium or uranium

2:31:04

or

2:31:05

any radiation I have one of those old

2:31:09

those old-school World War two yellow

2:31:11

ones yeah those are great does it have

2:31:13

the probe or not have a little probe it

2:31:17

does it does have a probe oh well that

2:31:20

probably still works cuz it's a Geiger

2:31:22

tube which is what the probe is but you

2:31:25

can buy these little big agar tubes and

2:31:27

you can put one on your phone and it

2:31:29

works with like I think Apple has some

2:31:32

software so you can put the Geiger tube

2:31:33

on your phone your Apple phone and then

2:31:35

you can turn it on and run a software

2:31:42

Cotard detectors but this would be for

2:31:45

oh tarts that's the other thing you need

2:31:47

the RF frequency analyzer for that okay

2:31:49

but does the devices everyone should

2:31:51

have a couple of these two should have

2:31:52

two of these devices have an RF

2:31:54

frequency analyzer and you should have a

2:31:56

handheld Geiger counter and you should

2:31:58

just you don't know everybody needs one

2:32:01

listen up people you need one of these

2:32:03

frequency analyzer spectrum analyzer and

2:32:07

a Geiger counter counter how can you

2:32:10

live without it we should be selling

2:32:12

iodine well let's take a look here's a

2:32:23

couple of dumb stories oh no let's go

2:32:25

back to politics so this is a classic

2:32:28

and this is two people presenting the

2:32:29

story this is this is just killing me

2:32:32

Kelly and Conway and the Hatch Act they

2:32:34

got two clips let's start with the PBS

2:32:37

version the White House today dismissed

2:32:41

a call to fire presidential aide Kelly

2:32:43

and Conway the US Office of Special

2:32:46

Counsel unrelated to Special Counsel

2:32:49

Robert Muller's office said that Conway

2:32:52

repeatedly violated the Hatch Act a law

2:32:55

that limits political activity by

2:32:57

government employees the independent

2:32:59

agency cited Conway's criticism of

2:33:02

Democratic presidential candidates it

2:33:04

also quoted her as saying if you're

2:33:07

trying to silence me through the Hatch

2:33:09

Act it's not going to work the White

2:33:11

House condemned the finding as deeply

2:33:13

flawed so the Hatch Act is designed to

2:33:17

keep people you know the dear president

2:33:19

from take

2:33:20

and everybody in the white house and

2:33:21

having him do calls phone calls to get

2:33:25

money I mean that's pretty much what the

2:33:27

thing was designed for Kellyanne goes

2:33:29

out and she says yeah this guy's an

2:33:31

idiot oh that's that's political that's

2:33:33

political she says it's not really

2:33:35

political it's a comment and it's

2:33:36

probably accurate but let's hear it

2:33:38

because democracy now takes it to the

2:33:40

next level and they really slammer

2:33:42

a federal watchdog recommended Thursday

2:33:45

Kellyanne Conway be removed from her

2:33:47

post as White House counselor for

2:33:49

violating the Hatch Act a law barring

2:33:50

federal employees from engaging in

2:33:53

political activity as part of their

2:33:54

official duties in a report submitted to

2:33:56

President Trump the Office of Special

2:33:59

Counsel called Conway a repeat offender

2:34:01

saying she's repeatedly used TV

2:34:03

appearances in social media to disparage

2:34:05

Democratic presidential candidates among

2:34:07

Conway's ethics violations she twice

2:34:10

violated the Hatch Act by endorsing

2:34:11

Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy

2:34:13

Moore while speaking in her official

2:34:15

capacity for the White House in early

2:34:18

2017 Conway used an appearance on Fox &

2:34:21

Friends to promote the Ivanka Trump

2:34:22

clothing line sold by the president's

2:34:24

daughter it's a wonderful line I own

2:34:32

some of it I fully I'm gonna just give

2:34:33

it I'm gonna give a free commercial here

2:34:35

go buy it today everybody online legal

2:34:37

experts say the Office of Special

2:34:39

Counsel does not have the authority to

2:34:42

discipline Conway and President Trump

2:34:43

can simply ignore the agency's

2:34:45

recommendation if I could Trump make

2:34:52

some nice clothes go buy it how is that

2:34:54

political I'm asking you it's not well

2:35:00

I'm confused about something else

2:35:03

about this

2:35:05

with this constant it's not robert

2:35:07

muller it but on one hand it was

2:35:09

democracy now was this is the special

2:35:12

councils office but in the PBS it was

2:35:15

well this is PBS the White House today

2:35:17

dismissed a call to fire presidential

2:35:19

aide Kelly and Conway the US Office of

2:35:23

Special Counsel unrelated to special

2:35:25

counsel robert muller zonka the US

2:35:28

Office of Special Counsel not familiar

2:35:30

with the US Office of Special Counsel

2:35:32

what is that I don't know but apparently

2:35:35

they're busy bodies with all the press I

2:35:42

mean it's like this is bullcrap I mean

2:35:44

it's the worst kind of bullcrap they

2:35:46

look they're just grasping at straws

2:35:48

they're doing the same thing with this

2:35:50

clip here this is unfortunately I wrote

2:35:53

it Trump as are you because mo room oh

2:35:58

okay way to go the head of the Federal

2:36:02

Elections Commission warned Thursday the

2:36:04

candidates for public office are

2:36:05

prohibited by law from receiving help

2:36:07

from a foreign government the warning

2:36:09

was a clear rebuke to President Trump

2:36:11

after he told ABC's George

2:36:14

Stephanopoulos this week that he might

2:36:16

accept dirt on political rivals from

2:36:18

foreign actors in the twenty twenty

2:36:20

election campaign this time that if

2:36:23

foreigners if Russia if China if someone

2:36:25

else offers you information an opponent

2:36:27

should they accept it or should they

2:36:28

call the FBI I think maybe you do both I

2:36:30

think you might want to listen I don't

2:36:32

there's nothing wrong with listening if

2:36:34

somebody called from a country Norway we

2:36:38

have information on your opponent oh I

2:36:41

think I'd want to hear if you want that

2:36:43

kind of interference in our elections

2:36:44

it's not an interference they have

2:36:46

information I think I'd take it in a

2:36:48

statement posted online one day after

2:36:50

Trump's remarks aired on ABC FEC chair

2:36:53

Ellen Weintraub said let me make

2:36:55

something 100% clear to the American

2:36:57

public and anyone running for public

2:36:59

office it is illegal for any person to

2:37:02

solicit accept or receive anything of

2:37:04

value from a foreign national in

2:37:06

connection with the u.s. election this

2:37:08

is not a novel concept she wrote alright

2:37:10

I really want to know what Norway knows

2:37:12

because these things don't don't come

2:37:14

out of just nowhere

2:37:16

the United States Office of Special

2:37:18

Counsel is a permanent independent

2:37:20

federal investigative and prosecutorial

2:37:22

agency whose basic legislative authority

2:37:25

comes from four federal statutes the

2:37:28

Civil Service Reform Act The

2:37:31

Whistleblower Protection Act the Hatch

2:37:33

Act and the uniformed services

2:37:35

employment and reemployment Rights Act

2:37:39

OSC's primary mission is the

2:37:41

safeguarding of the merit system in

2:37:43

federal employment by protecting

2:37:45

employees and applicants from prohibited

2:37:47

personnel practices so they should have

2:37:51

actually gone to Kellyanne Conway and

2:37:53

said hey you should not be doing this

2:37:55

instead they go to the media I guess is

2:37:58

what I'm seeing well if you if you

2:38:01

reread what you just read which is the

2:38:04

prosecutorial aspect of it why don't

2:38:06

they indict her why don't they prosecute

2:38:08

her it's if your prosecutorial which is

2:38:11

what it said that what you read yes well

2:38:14

this is Wikipedia so who knows the house

2:38:16

could be wrong but generally speaking

2:38:17

with this sort of thing they're not

2:38:19

wrong so if that's the case why didn't

2:38:21

because everyone disclaims this well

2:38:22

that he doesn't have to do anything he

2:38:24

doesn't have to do anything well why

2:38:25

don't they do it well no there's there's

2:38:27

some exemptions here the Hatch Act of

2:38:28

1939 officially an act to prevent

2:38:32

pernicious political activities is a

2:38:35

United States federal law whose main

2:38:37

provision prohibits employees in the

2:38:39

executive branch of the federal

2:38:40

government except the president vice

2:38:42

president and certain designated

2:38:44

high-level officials from engaging in

2:38:47

some forms of political activity so

2:38:51

let's take a look at who these

2:38:52

high-level officials could be so what

2:38:57

are the what are the what are the

2:38:59

exemptions

2:39:03

well they wouldn't have made a fuss of

2:39:04

Kellyanne was an exemption so the

2:39:07

exemption has to be the vice-president

2:39:09

for sure well it's it says

2:39:11

vice-president and certain designated

2:39:12

high-level officials anyone has anyone

2:39:15

been prosecuted under this bullcrap

2:39:19

operate just a drinking club there's a

2:39:21

bunch of these little government

2:39:22

agencies that do nothing more than we

2:39:25

haven't done a report in five years what

2:39:27

are we gonna do

2:39:28

so these employees who fall under the

2:39:32

Hatch Act may not use official authority

2:39:34

or influence to interfere with an

2:39:35

election geez that's pretty broad that

2:39:38

has to do with Ivanka Trump's dresses

2:39:40

solicit or discourage political activity

2:39:43

of anyone with business before their

2:39:44

agency solicit or receive political

2:39:47

contributions oh there it is because she

2:39:51

received some clothing be candidates for

2:39:54

public office in partisan elections

2:39:56

engage in political activities while on

2:39:58

duty and government office wearing an

2:40:00

official uniform using a government

2:40:01

vehicle it is bullcrap it's it's

2:40:07

misogynist is what it is well in this

2:40:10

case yes I agree completely misogynist

2:40:13

so unfortunately Sarah Sanders is

2:40:16

quitting I do have a clip to announce

2:40:17

that separate President Trump announced

2:40:20

that White House press secretary Sarah

2:40:22

Huckabee Sanders is leaving at the end

2:40:25

of the month at a White House event

2:40:27

he called her a warrior Sanders said

2:40:30

she's going home to Arkansas to spend

2:40:32

more time with her family this has been

2:40:34

the honor of a lifetime the opportunity

2:40:36

of a lifetime I couldn't be prouder to

2:40:39

have had the opportunity to serve my

2:40:41

country and particularly to work for

2:40:43

this president in the meantime I'm going

2:40:45

to continue to be one of the most

2:40:48

outspoken and loyal supporters of the

2:40:51

President and his agenda

2:40:53

Sanders worked on the Trump campaign

2:40:56

joined the White House staff and took

2:40:58

over as press secretary in mid 2017 her

2:41:02

tenure was marked by the end of regular

2:41:04

media briefings and questions about her

2:41:06

credibility on the Virtual virtu

2:41:09

signaling Twitter

2:41:10

it was quite discouraging to see

2:41:12

fellow-countryman post such stuff as

2:41:16

I hope she never works again that lying

2:41:18

bitch these people leave it's really got

2:41:25

a wonder how many people that are sure I

2:41:29

have one here about the president you

2:41:31

and I had we know we disagree about that

2:41:32

we have a whole day I had to go on this

2:41:34

before we go one of the things you have

2:41:36

as presidents the access to all the

2:41:38

information right in the world all the

2:41:41

mysteries out there and I was just

2:41:42

struck in the last couple weeks for

2:41:44

reading more and more reports of Navy

2:41:45

pilots seeing lots and lots of UFOs on

2:41:49

that what do you think I have I think

2:41:51

it's probably yeah I want them to think

2:41:54

whatever they think they do I mean I've

2:41:56

seen I've seen and I've read and I've

2:41:58

heard and I did have one very brief

2:42:00

meeting on it but people are saying

2:42:02

they're seeing UFOs do I believe it not

2:42:04

particularly do you think you know if

2:42:07

there were evidence of extraterrestrial

2:42:09

well I think my great our great pilots

2:42:11

would know and some of them really see

2:42:14

things that are a little bit different

2:42:16

than in the past so we're going to see

2:42:17

but we'll watch it you'll be the first

2:42:19

to know

2:42:21

yes me the first to know so that's a lie

2:42:24

why yes we go down as a lie yeah if he

2:42:29

really knows everything the question I

2:42:32

would have asked was so did you ever see

2:42:35

the birth certificate that's the

2:42:37

question I'd want to know these guys

2:42:42

aren't asking anything let we'd ask this

2:42:46

this is probably good reason for it

2:42:49

yeah that's why we're here I hate doing

2:42:52

a podcast I'll give you one more than we

2:42:54

got to go

2:42:54

it's time well actually I need to put

2:42:57

2001 under story do it once short 20

2:42:59

seconds just to get it out of the way

2:43:01

this is the heatwave in India so we know

2:43:04

this is not being reported meanwhile

2:43:05

Indian officials are blaming an intense

2:43:08

heatwave and drought for at least 36

2:43:10

deaths in some regions south of Mumbai

2:43:13

India whole villages have been evacuated

2:43:16

with an estimated 90% of residents

2:43:19

fleeing their homes in recent weeks due

2:43:21

to searing droughts and crop failures on

2:43:23

Monday India's capital Delhi recorded an

2:43:26

all-time high temperature of 48 degrees

2:43:28

Celsius nearly 120 degrees Fahrenheit

2:43:31

well that was the whole report but yeah

2:43:35

that can't be the whole report but

2:43:37

because she didn't go on and on about

2:43:38

global warming yeah the climate crisis

2:43:41

yeah I know the next segment she brought

2:43:45

it up okay but it wasn't about this I

2:43:47

don't know why she didn't bring it up it

2:43:48

is you actually baffling yes and a lot

2:43:51

it's totally bad I agree and the last

2:43:54

clip is just to catch us up so we can

2:43:56

keep up with this is the only there's a

2:43:57

lot of clips I could play but this we do

2:43:59

have to keep up with the China versus

2:44:01

Hong Kong this is the updates of 149 is

2:44:04

long clip okay after a week of protests

2:44:07

a concession from the head of Hong

2:44:08

Kong's government she announced the

2:44:10

indefinite suspension of a controversial

2:44:12

bill that would allow extradition to

2:44:15

mainland China my relevant colleagues

2:44:19

and I have made our best efforts but I

2:44:23

have to admit that our explanation and

2:44:25

communication work has not been

2:44:27

sufficient or effective

2:44:30

the council will hot its work in

2:44:33

relation to the bill until are working

2:44:36

communication explanation and listening

2:44:39

to opinions is completed the move comes

2:44:42

amid intense pressure from the streets

2:44:44

more than a million demonstrators last

2:44:46

weekend according to organizers followed

2:44:49

by another mass march on Wednesday that

2:44:52

protest was marked by clashes with the

2:44:54

police who fired off rubber bullets as

2:44:56

well as teargas opponents of the bill

2:45:00

aren't satisfied with the government's

2:45:02

announcements they're maintaining a call

2:45:04

to protest on Sunday if this bill passes

2:45:07

it's definitely unfair to Hong Kong if

2:45:10

you don't want postponement or more

2:45:11

deliberation it must be a withdrawal we

2:45:14

will definitely come out and attend our

2:45:16

ground Sunday and tell them we won't

2:45:18

retreat without withdrawal of the bill a

2:45:20

pro team aquas e lawmaker also expressed

2:45:23

disappointment criticising Hong Kong

2:45:25

chief executive Kerry lamb critics of

2:45:46

the proposed law say it encroaches on

2:45:48

Hong Kong's autonomy China for its part

2:45:51

he says it supports the decision to

2:45:53

suspend the bill one of our producers

2:45:56

who is Chinese Canadian American sent me

2:46:00

a note kind of a scathing note he says

2:46:03

I'd like to get and I called him on I

2:46:05

said you cannot bitch at us if you'd if

2:46:08

your boots on the ground or your Chinese

2:46:10

and you you a reading stuff and you know

2:46:12

what's happening you need to tell us and

2:46:14

not come on bitch that we're just that

2:46:15

we suck because we didn't get it right

2:46:19

apparently this law stems from a case of

2:46:22

failed extradition which set a murderer

2:46:26

free this guy chopped up his girlfriend

2:46:28

his pregnant girlfriend cut her up into

2:46:33

pieces and then stuffed her into his

2:46:35

briefcase

2:46:37

he escaped back to Hong Kong and so the

2:46:40

Taiwanese failed to extradite him back

2:46:42

to Taiwan for trial and so somehow this

2:46:45

then led to this extradition order so

2:46:47

they could pull people back from

2:46:49

anywhere but the genesis was a brutal

2:46:51

murderer and I think that we us u.s.

2:46:56

probably took advantage of the situation

2:46:58

and and helped stoke these these

2:47:00

protests to make China look stupid of

2:47:04

course it's what we do yeah and and we

2:47:06

did

2:47:08

Taiwan yeah well then what's it got to

2:47:12

do with the mainland yeah well because

2:47:14

they want to be able to extradite from

2:47:16

from anywhere we know anywhere in the

2:47:18

world if it was Taiwan they just shipped

2:47:20

a guy that took back to Taiwan hey I'm

2:47:23

just reading the news or producers give

2:47:25

us I don't have the answers but I'm

2:47:27

pretty sure we were all all up in arms

2:47:30

and happy to stoke some of these

2:47:32

protests and get everybody crazy

2:47:34

yes it's ongoing has not stopped yet

2:47:38

we're good at the same way I feel about

2:47:40

bringing Assange in under some screwball

2:47:43

pretense exactly and these million

2:47:46

people it's over a million people that

2:47:47

are bitching and moaning in Hong Kong

2:47:49

they can't where they are all wrong and

2:47:51

this you know the Chinese are writing

2:47:52

they're misunderstood according to blam

2:47:54

that's what she says it's a failure to

2:47:56

communicate this nonsense well hopefully

2:48:00

more of our producers will weigh in with

2:48:03

more information which we will gladly

2:48:06

disseminate to you or decimate as some

2:48:09

would say on the next episode which will

2:48:13

be Thursday and I'll be in Portugal and

2:48:16

John will be somewhere in northern

2:48:19

Sweden line at Target if you're

2:48:21

listening to us on no agenda stream comm

2:48:23

we've got Rhino the bearded coming up

2:48:25

next and thanks to Jesse coy Nelson

2:48:29

Tom's Starkweather

2:48:31

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2:48:34

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2:48:38

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2:48:42

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2:48:44

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2:48:46

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slash n a until then adios mofos and

2:49:23

you're all gonna know what the cures bad

2:50:54

tensions rising in the Gulf following

2:50:56

the tanker attack near Iran the Islamic

2:50:59

Republic of Iran is responsible for the

2:51:01

attacks that occurred in the Gulf of

2:51:02

Oman today an attack that came exactly

2:51:05

as Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe a

2:51:08

met with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei the

2:51:09

neurons pretty leader if you actually

2:51:11

look at domestic shell produced your

2:51:13

stocks yesterday they all went up the US

2:51:16

shale boom is insulating the US economy

2:51:19

and the financial markets from events

2:51:21

like this which is really good news for

2:51:23

the for the US economy this assessment

2:51:26

is based on intelligence isn't that

2:51:28

right intelligence

2:51:29

that is affirmative yeah it is

2:51:33

inexcusably inaccurate to suggest that

2:51:35

anyone lied about it the idea that we

2:51:38

doctored such intelligence is completely

2:51:40

and totally false you've talked about

2:51:42

how you tell to your stomach when you

2:51:46

found that there were no weapons of mass

2:51:48

destruction in the next century the

2:51:49

community of nations may see more and

2:51:51

more of the very kind of threat Iraq

2:51:53

poses now a rogue state with weapons of

2:51:56

mass destruction now I wish we'd have

2:51:58

found weapons of mass destruction

2:52:00

I don't mind there were no weapons of

2:52:01

mass destruction they said there are

2:52:02

weapons of mass destruction I was over

2:52:04

the world where Sara things I would do

2:52:07

differently and I actually you know have

2:52:10

thought about that time be more

2:52:13

skepticism and Congress in the autumn

2:52:15

2002 that war it could not have been

2:52:18

waged at least not at any rate not on

2:52:21

the basis of whether the mass

2:52:22

destruction the wine about the tubes

2:52:24

that suggests you know that when the

2:52:28

tongs publish that story on the front

2:52:30

page and you know with kind of a welcome

2:52:33

sign for Dick Cheney and

2:52:36

condi rice to go on the sunday show the

2:52:38

us blamed Iran and will raise the issue

2:52:41

in a United Nations Security Council

2:52:43

meeting these unprovoked attacks present

2:52:45

a clear threat to international peace

2:52:47

and security a blatant assault on the

2:52:50

freedom of navigation and an

2:52:52

unacceptable campaign of escalating

2:52:54

tension by Iran

2:52:55

I want to make the case for secrecy in

2:52:58

government when it comes to the conduct

2:53:00

of national security affairs and

2:53:02

possibly for deception where that's

2:53:04

appropriate if I had to say something I

2:53:07

knew this falls to protect American

2:53:09

national security I would do it

2:53:10

obviously for the war in Iraq it was a

2:53:13

big fat mistake

2:53:15

all right well Iran didn't do it and you

2:53:18

know they did it because you saw the

2:53:19

boat I guess one of the mines didn't

2:53:21

explode and it's probably got

2:53:23

essentially Iran written all over it

2:53:35

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