0:00
um um um Adam curry
0:04
Jhansi Dvorak episode 11 60
town this is
0:12
no agenda from northern Silicon
Valley
0:25
an area plagued with white
supremacists
0:28
I'm John Cena Bradley they're
there too
0:35
Oh everybody all these
Democrats into
0:39
Silicon Valley are all white
0:40
supremacists turns out and what
to
0:43
evidence do you have of this I
heard it
0:46
I read it uh-huh
0:49
the Canadians think so so do
the Brits
0:52
so does the rest of the world
this has
0:54
been is this quite the assault
on the
0:57
United States we are phenomenon
we are
1:02
the the biggest racial bunch of
eight
1:04
holes in the universe yeah
that's
1:07
unbelievable
1:08
well it's worse than that what
do you
1:13
mean I've worse than Whitehall
I mean
1:14
what do you what do you mean
what do I
1:16
mean we've had this clip here
it's funny
1:19
you should mention anything cuz
it I
1:21
realized I don't know my
glasses which I
1:22
have to go get while you're
playing this
1:24
clip okay this is the MSNBC
clip yes
1:29
insanity
1:30
yeah the insanity clip where
not only is
1:34
the internet facilitating the
speed of
1:36
radicalization but but our
leader our
1:38
our chief executive is seen as
almost a
1:42
mentor and a radicalize er and
1:44
unfortunately today we did not
hear what
1:48
we needed to hear from that
person that
1:51
these extremists and unstable
people
1:53
look - he spoke in the in the
passive
1:57
voice in the collective voice
we didn't
1:59
hear first person from him we
didn't
2:00
hear I condemn white hate
ideology we
2:04
heard the nation must condemn
it well
2:06
the nation does condemn it but
we didn't
2:08
hear what we needed to hear so
what
2:11
happens is the extremists in
turn
2:12
what the president read off a
script
2:14
today as something he needed to
say
2:16
something he he didn't really
want to
2:19
say so
2:19
the president's either getting
really
2:21
good advice and rejecting it or
he's
2:23
getting really bad advice
2:25
and and I'll give you an
example of that
2:27
we have to understand the
adversary and
2:30
the threat we're dealing with
and if we
2:32
don't understand how they think
we'll
2:33
never understand how to counter
them so
2:36
it's little things and language
and
2:37
messaging that matters the
president
2:40
said that we will fly our flags
at
2:42
half-mast until August 8th
that's 8 8
2:47
now I'm not going to imply that
he did
2:50
this deliberately but I am
using it as
2:52
an example of the ignorance of
the
2:53
adversary that's being
demonstrated by
2:56
the White House the numbers 8 8
are very
2:58
significant in neo-nazi and
white
3:00
supremacy movement why because
the
3:03
letter H is the eighth letter
of the
3:06
alphabet and to them the
numbers 8 8
3:09
together stand for Heil Hitler
3:11
so we're gonna be raising the
flag back
3:14
up at dusk on 88 no one's
thinking about
3:18
this no one's no one's giving
him the
3:20
advice or he's rejecting the
advice so
3:22
understand your adversary is to
counter
3:25
the adversary I know you're
keeping your
3:26
options open there Frank but as
chilling
3:29
as that is to hear you're
saying it is
3:32
possible that someone who knows
better
3:34
is authoring or editing the
words that
3:39
show up and our read verbatim
or are
3:42
supposed to be read verbatim by
the
3:43
president you know I'm glad you
he
3:46
almost got the full clip and
I'm glad
3:48
you did that a lot of things
3:49
particularly on conservative
Twitter are
3:54
being played without context
and you
3:57
even missed I think the context
of what
3:59
this is Frank what's his name
4:02
but Nucci aware is an ex-fbi
top dog
4:05
well that's why it's important
to have
4:08
it in context most people
didn't even
4:09
have that much when they when
they
4:12
showed a clip of this guy
talking it's
4:14
just Oh Trump is ready setting
the flag
4:17
on a date Hitler eight eight
eight H
4:19
this guy is not by the way H H
meant
4:23
hail Hydra
4:26
okay so the point is these are
the
4:29
Marvel fans out there will
appreciate
4:30
that and here we go on this guy
is the
4:33
former assistant director of
the FBI and
4:36
if we go back to the beginning
of this
4:37
interview it's a little more
interesting
4:40
than just although out of
context on
4:43
Twitter all you saw was this
guy is
4:45
crazy numerology but you had
here that
4:50
he's explaining hey wait a
minute
4:52
someone may be writing speeches
for the
4:54
President and he doesn't know
what he's
4:55
saying they may be slipping
stuff in but
4:58
it's a little bit worse than
that
4:59
because this guy made some
predictions
5:02
five days ago
5:04
Frankfurt Guzzi the former FBI
assistant
5:07
director for
counterintelligence wrote
5:10
the following in an op-ed in
The New
5:12
York Times and we quote
instinct and
5:15
experience tell me we're headed
for
5:17
trouble in the form of white
hate
5:20
violence stoked by a racially
divisive
5:23
president she imagined that and
the
5:26
former FBI assistant director
predicting
5:29
violence from white supremacist
five
5:32
just five days before it
happens on the
5:34
sixth day a cycle perhaps it
happens he
5:37
has chosen a reelection
strategy based
5:40
on appealing to the kinds of
hatred fear
5:42
and ignorance that can lead to
violence
5:45
and once again tonight we have
Frankfurt
5:48
Lucy back on our broadcast
Frank what
5:52
were the signs and how do we
know how to
5:55
navigate this tomorrow and the
next day
5:57
this is this starts becoming the
6:00
definition of terrorism when
people
6:02
develop anxiety about what
should be
6:05
free-flowing public places
totally
6:08
scripted between the two it was
6:13
pathetically scripted and then
and the
6:15
fact that Williams or any normal
6:18
journalist didn't push back on
this h/h
6:22
nonsense which is just a
creation of
6:25
maniacs is beyond me I mean it
well it's
6:29
not beyond me because MSNBC
works you
6:32
know like this is what they do
they got
6:34
these scripted segments and
they go back
6:37
and forth and they read the
script very
6:38
well but
6:39
yeah yeah well you're
associating it
6:41
with the with the cycle and the
6:43
terrorism malarkey and all the
rest of
6:45
it I'm just saying why does
this guy
6:48
predict something it happens
five days
6:50
later he shows up then he's
talking all
6:52
kinds of stuff like them he
essentially
6:54
says there may be people in and
around
6:58
the press in the White House
and around
7:00
the president who are true white
7:03
supremacist Nazis who are
slipping stuff
7:06
in and to be fair the President
did not
7:10
mistake Dayton you know Dayton
for
7:13
Toledo that was in his
teleprompter and
7:16
I'm not sure how that got in
there if
7:19
you do Toledo white supremacist
in 2015
7:22
there was a huge neo-nazi clash
in
7:25
Toledo Ohio I'm not so sure he's
7:27
completely off-base I'm yeah
I'm not
7:29
sure he's not off-base I don't
know but
7:32
I'll tell you there are
provocateurs out
7:34
there on in the left-wing media
and
7:37
they're doing a really good job
and I
7:40
have another example let me
just do the
7:42
second example this is another
thing
7:45
that Republican conservative
Twitter
7:48
lost their crap over and this
is Nicole
7:51
Wallace this is the clip that
most
7:52
people saw the last Republican
president
7:55
fought for thought and and and
it's not
7:58
an ideal that had 44 percent of
Latino
8:00
voters it was so politically
powerful in
8:04
inside the last for public
8:05
administration President Obama
used the
8:07
power of the presidency to try
to pass
8:10
comprehensive immigration
reform with
8:12
the Latino community Latino
leaders at
8:13
the table you don't have a
president you
8:15
said talking about
exterminating right
8:17
Latinas what were you yelling
what
8:21
comprehensive immigration
reform did
8:23
Obama try to cash just listen
to the
8:25
clip and then you'll see what
outside go
8:28
on play you don't have a
president as
8:29
you said talking about
exterminating
8:31
Latino it's not it so you now
have a
8:34
president who's talking about
8:35
exterminating Latinos of course
we do
8:38
that of course people lost
their shit
8:41
over this and she had to come
up with
8:43
some half-hearted apology about
that she
8:45
misspoke etc but if you really
listen to
8:48
what she says you know
8:51
president as you said talking
about
8:52
exterminating right my Tina she
says you
8:55
now have a president as you
said because
8:58
this guy she's talking to Raul
Rhys are
9:02
you is who is on the editorial
board of
9:06
USA Today has no wikipedia page
only
9:09
BIOS on the internet about what
he's
9:12
done who he works for
9:14
just he just shows up
everywhere there's
9:17
no background I'm telling you
this guy
9:20
is a provocateur because he
indeed did
9:23
put this in her head Nicole
Wallace is a
9:25
simpleton so she picked that up
and used
9:28
it stupidly but listen to this
guy and
9:31
with regard to the president's
remarks
9:32
sad to say I don't really see
at this
9:35
point anything he can do in
words and
9:37
actions throughout his
presidency he's
9:39
basically declared open season
on
9:41
Latinos because we are one of
his
9:43
favorite favorite targets and
it's not
9:45
just the language he used you
know you
9:47
mentioned calling Mexicans drug
dealers
9:49
and rapists when he came down
the
9:51
escalator that was day one then
it
9:53
escalated into attacks on Latino
9:55
journalists it escalated into
attacks on
9:57
the so called as in his words
the
9:59
Mexican judge then he ramped it
up again
10:02
to the invasion the warning
people of
10:05
the caravan and works like
infestation
10:07
what do you do with an
infestation with
10:09
an infestation the natural lot
the
10:11
conclusion is to attempt an
10:12
extermination so to me there's
very
10:14
little distinction between his
inciting
10:17
this violence and the fact that
it is
10:19
now happening because I you can
hear
10:22
this guy said it she referred
back to
10:25
him she's an idiot but this guy
this
10:28
guy's a spook or he's something
he's
10:31
some kind of provocateur and I
have no
10:33
other information about him
other than
10:35
he's on the USA Today editorial
board
10:38
which is concerning by itself
saying
10:40
these types of things so there
is
10:44
something going on a concerted
push a
10:46
real effort and they've we've
abandoned
10:50
everything now abandon it Russia
10:52
everything else at the present
now it's
10:56
in the rotation so it's you
know a boy
10:58
in a band but but this seems to
be the
11:01
all-in way that they're all
going and
11:04
worse what really irks me is
what the
11:09
president said this is I mean
this is
11:12
really I have not seen it so
bad in the
11:16
United States as this and I
pulled a
11:19
couple of clips from his
statement that
11:21
he read off the teleprompter
uninspired
11:24
this is where he and if you can
go back
11:27
and look and you'll see that he
is
11:28
reading Toledo from the
teleprompter in
11:31
fact it even looks like for a
moment he
11:33
realizes that can't be right
but he
11:35
still reads it but What did he
say the
11:38
shooter in El Paso posted a
manifesto
11:41
online consumed by racist hate
in one
11:46
voice our nation must condemn
racism
11:49
bigotry and white supremacy
these
11:53
sinister ideologies must be
defeated
11:56
hate has no place in America
hatred
12:00
warps the mind ravages the
heart and
12:03
devours the soul so notice he's
taking
12:07
the manifesto at face value
that this
12:10
guy did it even though there is
evidence
12:14
to the contrary here is the
owner of
12:17
eight Qian where the manifesto
so-called
12:21
which we which we looked at in
detail on
12:23
the last show where the shooter
uploaded
12:27
that now a Chan is a weird it's
12:29
basically a bulletin board we
can post
12:31
off and you can do that
anonymously the
12:33
guy who runs I think the
servers are in
12:35
the Philippines he makes his
money by
12:37
advertising on HN and of odd
travel
12:40
books which you know a sketchy
travel
12:44
books about weird stuff you can
see in
12:46
different countries I don't
care but he
12:49
made a statement about this
being
12:52
uploaded to hm first of all the
old
12:55
passive shooter posted on
Instagram not
12:59
eight ten later someone
uploaded a
13:02
manifesto however that
manifesto was not
13:06
uploaded by the Walmart shooter
13:09
I don't know if he wrote it or
not but
13:11
it was not uploaded by the
murderer that
13:14
is clear and law enforcement
was made
13:17
aware of this before most
people had
13:20
even heard the horrific news by
the way
13:24
he put the the taps bugle under
it
13:26
that's just the the drama of
how he
13:30
wants to present this but
notice he
13:32
could know by eye Device
Identifier zai
13:36
P addresses it's a tree said
whoever
13:37
uploaded that manifesto it
wasn't the
13:40
guy who was posting on a chain
13:43
previously you don't hear about
that the
13:46
spirit and letter of the law
have always
13:48
been faithfully fulfilled and
my company
13:52
has always made certain of that
it is
13:55
unfortunate that this place of
free
13:57
speech has temporarily been
removed all
14:01
right so for the President to
take this
14:04
in his speech and he's reading
it so
14:06
he's responsible for it to take
it at
14:09
face value as the truth or as a
single
14:11
guy who did all this is just
factually
14:15
not true we know it now he
should have
14:18
known that then he hears the
president
14:20
again we must seek real
bipartisan
14:22
solutions we have to do that in
a
14:25
bipartisan manner that will
truly make
14:28
America safer and better for
all first
14:32
we must do a better job of
identifying
14:35
and acting on early warning
signs I am
14:39
directing the Department of
Justice to
14:42
work in partisan partnership
with local
14:45
state and federal agencies as
well as
14:48
social media companies to
develop tools
14:50
that can detect mass shooters
before
14:52
they strike as an example the
monster in
14:56
the Parkland High School in
Florida had
14:59
many red flags against him and
yet
15:01
nobody took decisive action
nobody did
15:03
anything why not now
15:06
the Parkland shooter was mainly
family
15:09
members and friends who called
the FBI
15:12
and complained about him there
was only
15:14
one small posting if I recall
correctly
15:17
on mmm think maybe it was
Instagram but
15:21
that was really
15:22
a social media case now the
president is
15:24
talking about working with
social media
15:27
companies to identify problems
which
15:33
you'll call red flags in a
moment and I
15:36
don't know is he going to
stifle people
15:38
is he now going to work on deep
15:41
platforming is you know if he's
if any
15:44
of this is planned that is just
the fact
15:48
that they want to go snooping
around is
15:50
almost a direct violation of
Fourth
15:52
Amendment rights this is an
outrage
15:54
second we must stop the
glorification of
15:58
violence in our society this
includes
16:01
the gruesome and grisly video
games that
16:03
are now commonplace it is too
easy today
16:07
for troubled youth to surround
16:10
themselves with a culture that
16:12
celebrates violence we must
stop or
16:15
substantially reduce this and
it has to
16:18
begin immediately so calling
out video
16:21
games is old trope there's no
scientific
16:26
evidence nor is there scientific
16:29
evidence that the litany of
movies from
16:32
Hollywood and television shows
have
16:34
similar influence Tarantino's
latest
16:37
bloodbath is in theaters now no
mention
16:39
of that now for sure video
games are is
16:43
a huge industry and maybe it
conditions
16:46
kids I mean this president our
president
16:49
is the guy at the front of the
military
16:52
the most Merkers machine ever
built in
16:55
history oh yeah yeah but let's
not have
16:57
a culture of violence anywhere
what he
16:59
doesn't mention of course is
that these
17:03
things by themselves you know
may spur
17:06
someone on but how about the
combination
17:09
of drugs combination of SSRIs
17:13
psychotropic drugs not a single
mention
17:16
about that third we must reform
our
17:19
mental health laws to better
identify
17:22
mentally disturbed individuals
who may
17:26
commit acts of violence and
make sure
17:28
those people not only get
treatment but
17:32
when necessary involuntary
17:34
confinement mental illness and
hatred
17:37
pulls the trigger not the gun
okay so
17:42
he's saying this of course to
distance
17:44
everything from guns from
what's going
17:47
on what is he gonna do now if
you if
17:50
you're angry and you post
something
17:52
hateful are you gonna be picked
up and
17:54
and unvoluntary incarcerated
because you
17:59
may be mentally ill all we just
have we
18:01
just have to check you Mr curry
just
18:02
make sure that everything's
okay make
18:04
sure that your your you're not
18:05
completely out of control very
dangerous
18:08
shit that's going on here
18:09
fourth we must make sure that
those
18:11
judged to pose a grave risk to
public
18:15
safety do not have access to
firearms
18:18
and that if they do those
firearms can
18:21
be taken through rapid due
process so
18:24
are we gonna go straight to rob
reiner
18:26
's house and take away any guns
you know
18:28
he has because he appears
mentally ill I
18:31
mean may think it's a good idea
but it
18:34
could happen to me that is why
I have
18:37
called for red flag laws also
known as
18:40
extreme risk protection orders
now none
18:44
of this is an executive order
he's just
18:46
reading from the script but
when he says
18:48
extreme risk protection order I
feel an
18:51
executive order coming on
pretty soon
18:53
and it's literally going to be
like a
18:55
Gestapo force that is going to
check on
18:58
you online if you're okay if
something's
19:00
not wrong with you
19:01
we'll do a little sanity check
oh you
19:03
got some guns now let's take
those away
19:04
first just in case red flag
today I'm
19:08
also directing the Department
of Justice
19:10
to propose legislation ensuring
that
19:14
those who commit hate crimes
and mass
19:17
murders face the death penalty
and that
19:22
this capital punishment be
delivered
19:24
quickly decisively and without
years of
19:27
needless delay understanding
where the
19:30
president's coming from that a
lot of
19:32
mass shooters sit in jail for
years and
19:35
years and years on end I
understand what
19:37
he's saying but you put that in
19:39
combination with a red flag
maybe some
19:42
mental health issues clear hate
19:46
oh I'm sorry we got to go kill
you now I
19:48
mean I know it sounds a little
extreme
19:50
but is it really when you hear
what he's
19:52
saying these are just a few of
the areas
19:55
of cooperation that we can
pursue I am
19:59
open and ready to listen and
discuss all
20:01
ideas that will actually work
now the
20:05
way he says that
20:06
maybe he's negating all of this
and and
20:09
maybe that's a signal saying
well you
20:12
know this is all bullcrap I'm
just
20:14
saying it so I'm open eyes it
will
20:16
really work but I don't like it
it will
20:19
actually work and make a very
big
20:21
difference Republicans and
Democrats
20:25
have proven that we can join
together in
20:28
a bipartisan fashion to address
this
20:30
plague already the government is
20:35
swinging into action on this
they are
20:37
loving it here's a former
Department of
20:39
Justice official this is this
is where
20:42
they're taking the president's
words and
20:45
the FBI alone tracked domestic
terrorism
20:48
or doesn't need all the
agencies of
20:50
government it needs to be
approached the
20:52
same way we approached again
20:54
international terrorism after
9/11 which
20:57
is working with foreign
governments and
21:00
foreign law enforcement and
foreign
21:01
intelligence agencies to track
the
21:04
trends figure out who the
radicalizes
21:06
are because white supremacy is
not
21:07
unique to the United States now
do you
21:10
hear what she's saying we need
to work
21:12
with foreign governments why
because the
21:14
Fourth Amendment prohibits the
21:16
government from snooping around
your
21:18
business in the United States
but just
21:20
like they did with this you
know the
21:22
FISA warrants they use the the
British
21:25
intelligence and Tahlia natella
do any
21:27
one of the five eyes they'll
use them
21:29
and send that information to us
then
21:31
we'll go pick them up that's
what she's
21:33
saying - this has become a
global
21:34
problem we need to treat it as
a global
21:37
global problem which means
information
21:39
sharing between governments it
means
21:42
information sharing between the
federal
21:44
government and States and
locals and it
21:46
means information sharing with
the
21:48
public with the American public
to help
21:51
people to understand terrorism
is not
21:53
just Islamist extremist
terrorism terror
21:56
and terrace acts of violence
can be
21:58
motivated by any ideology
far-right for
22:02
left anything Mary McCool thank
you for
22:04
being with us
22:05
no one mourn that I'm done with
the rant
22:06
this is a former Obama DHS
stooge and
22:10
yet President Trump is saying
he will
22:12
now give the FBI whatever they
need to
22:15
tackle it so what tools to the
FBI need
22:18
well of course we need you know
more
22:20
undercover long-term
investigations into
22:23
those who are plotting
terrorist acts I
22:25
think there's a good lesson to
be
22:28
learned in the countering
violent
22:29
extremism program we actually
had the
22:33
first three organizations in
2018 that
22:35
were given grant funding
however that
22:38
funding was pulled for
countering
22:40
violent extremism among white
22:42
nationalists so we need to
reconstitute
22:44
that and have an equal
distribution of
22:46
funding and resources for
countering
22:48
violent white nationalism but
how does
22:50
the FBI track people who go
online to
22:53
these sites like eight chanoh
22:55
become radicalized incredibly
quickly
22:58
yeah so here in America we have
a bill
23:00
of rights that gives
constitutional
23:03
protections to people one of
those is
23:05
the freedom of speech and so
the FBI's
23:08
hands are kind of tied until
they have a
23:10
criminal predicate or probable
cause to
23:13
investigate so how they go about
23:14
monitoring these social media
websites
23:16
is by contracting it out with
private
23:19
companies who don't have those
23:20
limitations that's how you
circumvent
23:23
the Fourth Amendment it's a
beautiful
23:24
system this is outrageous and I
can't
23:29
believe that where is where's
Fox News
23:31
on this where's Tucker Carlson
virtue
23:34
signaling about how dangerous
there's no
23:36
where no is no one picking up
on this am
23:39
I an idiot am i over blowing it
well
23:44
you're definitely ahead of the
pack okay
23:48
I'm I'm protective of my rights
and
23:52
yours now a couple of things
that I
23:54
wanted to get back up
unfortunately
23:57
you're already past this but by
mile ago
23:59
but I was intrigued and I'm not
gonna
24:03
say you're right or wrong about
this or
24:04
you're you're hysterical
24:05
but
24:08
I was intrigued by the early by
the
24:12
notion that there's an agent
provocateur
24:14
in the White House
24:17
planting coded messages to white
24:21
supposedly to white supremacists
24:23
although it'd be more likely to
be coded
24:25
by a left-wing or in the White
House who
24:29
is slipping these terms and
these ideas
24:31
and like raising the flag on 88
yeah
24:34
as a tribute to Hitler you have
to be
24:38
somewhat nuts to even think
that but
24:41
White House because it seems to
be
24:44
working in concert with that
guy that
24:46
you had interviewed that guy
who was on
24:49
the FBI guy that was on Brian
Williamson
24:52
yes
24:53
told us stuff that was like
didn't make
24:56
any sense unless there was
actually
24:58
something going on and this guy
knew
25:00
about it and as part of a
concerted
25:02
effort to do this to just
embarrass the
25:05
president by putting in coded
messages
25:07
using the wrong words or I've
never seen
25:11
this phrasing the flag on 88
have you
25:14
ever seen this Frank sigfig
Luisi before
25:17
I'd never seen him before
25:18
apparently he's on MSNBC all
the time
25:20
because when Brian introduced
it he says
25:22
welcome back yeah well we
missed him the
25:26
first time the BBC also did
something
25:28
very interesting the speaking
of coded
25:31
language in this time this time
a little
25:33
more obvious this is from BBC
World News
25:36
this is the report that came
out at 1:00
25:38
p.m.
25:39
President Trump is heading for
the
25:41
sights of mass shootings in
Ohio and
25:42
Texas amid warnings that he
will not be
25:45
welcome the shootings left 31
people
25:47
dead mr. Trump's rhetoric has
been
25:49
blamed for inciting hate crimes
against
25:51
immigrants and ethnic minority
groups ok
25:54
been blamed for inciting hate
crimes
25:56
against ethnic minority groups
one hour
25:59
later this is the headline
president
26:02
Trump is heading for the sights
of mass
26:03
shootings in Ohio and Texas amid
26:05
warnings that he will not be
welcome the
26:08
shootings left 31 people dead
his visit
26:10
comes amid a continuing row
over whether
26:13
mr. Trump's choice of words in
his
26:14
tweets and speeches has
contributed to
26:17
white supremacists violence
26:18
president denies this oh I
guess they
26:21
got a call from somewhere hey
you know
26:24
you're off message BBC get it
back to
26:27
white supremacy that is a great
catch
26:31
I'm wondering again taking it
back to
26:34
the idea that there's a Al Shean
26:36
provocateur in the White House
and
26:39
there's always been and they
tend to be
26:41
lefties that are pushing an
agenda
26:45
I'm thinking it's communists
possible
26:50
you laugh but you didn't pay any
26:52
attention to the GSA convention
oh I'm
26:55
sorry I not only paid attention
26:58
I saw your clips I got real
clean better
27:01
clips good cuz I lost one of my
best
27:03
clips by because I was randomly
moving
27:06
stuff around and I I took out
one of the
27:09
files and I didn't go back and
recreate
27:11
it but let's put it this way
these the
27:14
guy who ran Alexander Acosta
Cortez's
27:17
operation the head of the
Justice
27:18
Democrats who's now working on
the green
27:21
new deal and he himself
regarding the
27:24
green new deal said it was it
really
27:25
wasn't about ecology or
greenhouse gas
27:28
or anything else is about a way
to
27:30
fundamentally change to eat the
economic
27:33
system in the United States
that's a
27:35
paraphrase but that's what he
said and
27:37
the idea that did just so many
of these
27:40
guys all out of the blue
they've come
27:42
out of the colleges and they're
27:45
straight-up Marxist I mean when
you
27:47
listen to the TSA people saying
Thank
27:50
You comrade time after time you
have you
27:55
come raden Thank You comrade
that's my I
27:58
so it's like talk about
chilling and
28:03
this is going on nobody is even
28:06
discussing it from the left and
the
28:08
media is not discussing it
they're
28:10
discussing white supremacy I
think the
28:12
white supremacy thing is a
total red
28:14
herring I don't know any white
28:16
supremacists I don't know
anyone else
28:19
who does but they're all
talking to so
28:20
the whole country's crawling
with him
28:22
suddenly and out of the blue
because as
28:24
you listen to that FBI guy he
said and
28:27
and by the way this route again
confirms
28:30
that he may be him
28:31
self part of a conspiracy he
said well
28:34
they look to Trump for his coded
28:39
messages and not did he didn't
use coded
28:40
but he looked for Trump as a
mentor to
28:43
the white supremacist why are
they
28:45
looking to trump Trump's not a
white
28:48
supremacist he may be Jewish
his WisDOT
28:50
eyes of the Orthodox the whole
thing is
28:55
ludicrous but not it's not
ludicrous if
28:58
that's actually a message you
look to
29:00
Trump because Trump has coded
messages
29:03
that he's unaware of do you
want to hear
29:06
the full
29:08
now we don't have to go back to
that guy
29:10
I think it's clear I think it's
well
29:13
that would certainly be a
communist or
29:15
socialist way of doing things
29:18
communist communist well I'll
tell you
29:21
this D si now I I
29:24
whenever I see funny clips from
29:27
something like that and they
were
29:28
extremely funny and we're gonna
play
29:30
yours and then I want to play
some
29:32
things that I picked up they
had taken
29:35
off about five hours of video
that they
29:39
had posted to YouTube I was I
was just
29:42
looking for one one full full
video
29:45
could not find anything in
search you
29:47
know tried being tried Quan two
tried
29:51
everything then I even
succumbed to
29:53
Google I searched on YouTube
went to no
29:57
agenda social calm there of
course our
29:59
producers found all of the
recordings
30:02
which still closed Twitter for
this this
30:05
methodology you used but all of
the
30:08
clips were linked on the DSA
website
30:12
they took them down I was
looking for it
30:16
they took him down they only
had one
30:19
left and that's the one I got
the clips
30:21
from but let's do some of the
funny
30:23
stuff first and let's start
with yours
30:25
which one you want to go with
okay well
30:27
a couple of things were going
on there
30:28
was say this is the Democrat
socialist
30:33
of America DSA con 2019 this is
the
30:36
convention of all the chapters
of the
30:39
Democrat socialist of America
in a hotel
30:42
in Atlanta and there was voting
going on
30:47
about you know the actual
structure the
30:50
delegates they were you know
what you
30:53
saw is people trying to be
social
30:55
justice warriors and socialists
at the
30:58
time which believe it or not
does not go
31:00
together very well
31:02
go ahead well they had a lot of
and by
31:07
the way they also employed all
the the
31:09
old Occupy coded ways of
presenting the
31:13
audience you know that which
you can't
31:15
clap because it might disturb
somebody
31:17
the clip that I lost was the guy
31:19
bitching about people mumbling
to each
31:21
other
31:22
that's one right here I'm good
I'm glad
31:24
you have it sorry
31:26
wait wait wait and so you have
a bunch
31:29
of people twinkling and so
that's where
31:33
you put your arms in the air
and you'll
31:34
wave your hands around if
you're a
31:36
that's a form of applauding but
you
31:38
can't it's not this finger
snapping
31:40
applauding which was used and
supposedly
31:42
there's a better way to applaud
in
31:44
nightclubs harkening back to
the 50s in
31:48
a beatnik place and but there
you hold
31:51
your hands in the air and
you're waving
31:52
will wave your hands and you
will do
31:54
wiggle your hands around and
that met
31:55
yay nuts just so you know
throughout and
31:58
I really I watched it all
throughout
32:01
this it was referred to as ASL
that's
32:04
what they call it and it is
true ASL is
32:07
American Sign Language and
clapping in
32:09
in ASL is the jazz hands so I
don't know
32:13
what you got twinkling from but
32:14
twinkling is the is the word
for it that
32:17
but they they consistently
called it ASL
32:20
well they can call whatever
they want
32:21
but it came out of occupying it
was
32:23
called twinkling and there's
and there's
32:26
a downward movement they I
guess to
32:30
occupy people got it from them
but from
32:32
American sign language but I'm
not sure
32:33
but I was lectured about this
by JC who
32:36
knows all this stuff well he
would know
32:38
that it's from ASL v'n right
they may
32:41
have been mentioned all I know
is I was
32:44
attracted to the term twinkling
cuz I
32:47
did in this clip no I don't
have that no
32:51
because I just describing the
situation
32:53
because there's nothing none of
its in
32:54
these clips but what I have is
for
32:56
example this is a woman that's
gonna
32:58
talk about the marshals because
they
32:59
have you can't just go to a
microphone
33:01
and get in line and say stuff
you have
33:04
to be ordered by the marshals
to be in
33:06
certain order so it's gonna be
very
33:08
structured and so they've had
nothing
33:09
but trouble with this system so
they had
33:11
to add a second marshal who if
you don't
33:14
like what the first marshal
said you
33:15
appeal to him and but I think
about this
33:19
is the classic milieu driven
woman who
33:24
is who has the podium at them
at the
33:26
moment this is the clip but the
UM girl
33:28
and I want you to listen
carefully for
33:31
the number of outrageous
33:34
uncountable times that she says
um-um-um
33:39
and it reminds me of the other
real
33:42
major um girls and I have
another girl
33:46
coming up but that's gonna do
with this
33:48
was that woman that was from
NPR who
33:51
talked about advertising she
was one of
33:53
these in the st. this same
sounds like
33:55
the same milieu to me which
doesn't
33:56
surprise me that you'd have NPR
and a
33:59
socialist milieu going um um um
you
34:03
don't say um there's many times
unless
34:04
everybody's doing it this is
just me
34:08
noticing something out loud as
the chair
34:11
and you can take me up if you
wish or
34:14
you can ignore me I have
noticed that a
34:16
lot of our points of
information and our
34:18
points of parliamentary inquiry
and our
34:20
points in general are coming
from just
34:22
about the same six to eight
people I
34:25
would suggest that you practice
being
34:27
socialist organizers and you
see if you
34:29
can recruit somebody else to
make your
34:31
point that's usually a good
indication
34:32
if it's a good point to make
second I
34:34
have received some questions
about the
34:37
marshals
34:38
who are helping to sort of
convene the
34:41
progressive stack just so
everybody is
34:44
clear the marshals at all of
the mics
34:46
are actually not delegate there
has been
34:49
a concern that they may be
politically
34:51
motivated none of them are
delegate so
34:53
just putting that out there
they're not
34:55
something for specific
resolutions
34:57
they're doing the Lord Marx's
work the
35:03
Lord Marx's work oh my goodness
I don't
35:10
think that's in the handbook
you're not
35:13
supposed to call him the Lord
are you
35:15
don't know what the handbook
says I've
35:18
never seen it but the Lord
Marx's work
35:20
okay resolutions they're doing
the Lord
35:23
Marx's work second we have
implemented
35:28
sort of a process because I
have I have
35:31
learned that there has been a
lot of
35:33
debate within the lines about
whether
35:35
the Marshalls recommendations
about the
35:38
ordering and the staff are
appropriate
35:41
so each mic now has two
marshals the
35:45
second marshal is to settle
dispute
35:48
I'm a little upset that it has
come to
35:50
that but if there are
disagreements in
35:52
the stack about who should go
first
35:54
again there will be a second
marshal
35:56
there to make sure that it's an
35:57
impartial decision let me just
go
36:00
through and just so the another
point
36:03
the marshals are very aware
that some
36:05
identities are invisible so as
much as
36:07
possible they are proactively
coming up
36:09
to folks who are in the stack
and just
36:11
trying to get a sense of who
they are
36:13
and where they should be third
I've
36:18
received a lot of complaints
about I
36:20
know that there like some
people just in
36:22
general really prefer to stand
I'm one
36:24
of those people and very
fidgety I can't
36:26
sit for very long I think
that's totally
36:28
fine I'm just gonna ask as much
as
36:30
possible if the folks who are
standing
36:32
could do so in the back it's a
little
36:34
distracting to people on the
sides the
36:37
movement so please do that if
you plan
36:41
to stand for most of our
sessions you're
36:42
killing me with this um girl
and then
36:46
just again I want to reiterate
what
36:49
progressive stack is for the
intents and
36:52
purposes of this convention
36:53
progressive stack is meant to
ensure
36:55
that people from you know
historically
36:58
oppressed and minor marginalized
37:01
identities who often don't get
heard
37:04
from enough not just at this
convention
37:06
but also in broader society
have a fair
37:09
chance to speak it is not about
sort of
37:13
trading back and forth stories
of has
37:17
the most relevant personal life
37:20
experiences to speak to an item
that's
37:24
up for debate yeah this really
is very
37:27
hard to listen to that now you
can stop
37:30
it and let's just go to because
it
37:32
continues with I want to follow
it up
37:33
with the there's marginalize
people
37:35
thing is a big deal to this
group and so
37:39
you have a bunch of people
coming out
37:41
and everybody by the way does
the
37:42
following when they go up there
this is
37:45
a 3-second this is when you go
up you do
37:47
this this is the DSA speaker
intro
37:49
personal pronouns you always
put this in
37:51
there my name is Matt Rubin I'm
from
37:54
Pittsburgh TSA my pronouns are
he/him
37:55
yes hello a point of personal
privilege
37:57
my name is Adam Curry Austin
Texas
38:00
hee haw no brother ok so there
wasn't
38:07
they them that showed up she
was a an NB
38:10
was pretty obvious and she had
to make
38:13
sure they wouldn't knew that
she was of
38:14
a them so let's listen to this
is the
38:18
marginalized people clip that
that
38:21
precedes the next clip which
but replay
38:23
this is they're very concerned
about
38:25
this because if somebody was
38:26
marginalized means you are you
have
38:29
taken yourself out of the you
maybe have
38:32
autism for example if you're
autistic
38:34
you're marginalize if you're
handicapped
38:36
you're marginalized if it you
or you you
38:38
end up marginalized you don't
want to be
38:40
necessarily maybe you do but
you are so
38:44
let's play the marginalized
people thing
38:45
and that the hard heartbreaking
work
38:48
that this is taking from every
38:50
marginalized person in this
room it has
38:52
been hard
38:53
I spent my lunch break working
with the
38:58
marshals to organize through
space for
39:01
us to center ground and process
the harm
39:05
that has been done this weekend
whether
39:06
it's accidental or not we need
some
39:08
space and time to do that I
want to
39:10
invite the marginalized people
in this
39:12
room to meet me after we
adjourn at five
39:16
in Augusta II it's on this
floor just
39:18
directly across the hall so we
can take
39:21
spend some time in community
just
39:23
processing so that we can go
out and
39:25
continue to organize with each
other
39:26
thank you so much for your time
he's a
39:31
number two you just didn't um
yourself
39:35
my man bad I gotta pay
attention to you
39:44
comrade now so this necessarily
leads to
39:49
this back and forth which is the
39:52
marginalize marshals point of
39:54
information or clarity are
they're
39:57
marginalized marshals or they
all like I
40:01
guess I want to know how many
40:02
marginalized folks are
represented by a
40:04
marshal I don't know that I'm
40:06
necessarily comfortable
answering that
40:08
question
40:10
especially since many
identities are
40:13
invisible right I understand I
just my
40:16
main concern is not being
represented in
40:19
having yeah I understand I
think the
40:22
best we can do is try and have
a fair
40:24
system where there's the second
person
40:26
to settle disputes and I just
really
40:28
encourage people as much as
possible
40:30
please respect our marshals
it's a very
40:32
thankless task and they are
very very
40:36
critical to this operation we
have going
40:38
on right here
40:39
now what would okay I'm gonna
I'm gonna
40:44
take over here because I got
some other
40:46
stuff that relates to this that
happened
40:49
that I think is important to
find out or
40:51
to hear about first let's let's
really
40:54
talk about these are social
justice
40:56
warriors these are not
socialists I grew
40:58
up in a socialist country in the
41:01
Netherlands when it was truly
really
41:03
socialist with 90 percent
income tax
41:05
personal income tax you know
the whole
41:08
deal
41:09
I've lived in three different
socialist
41:11
countries this has nothing to
do with
41:13
how socialism works socialism
has
41:15
leaders and they tell you to
shut the
41:17
fuck up and I've seen it and
that's how
41:19
it's lived this isn't this has
nothing
41:21
to do with socialism that in
fact all
41:24
this was this entire conference
was
41:27
fundraising every speaker at
the end we
41:30
have envelopes and this people
they
41:32
couldn't they were embarrassed
to use
41:34
the word square because they
had square
41:36
credit card processing so they
always
41:39
yes the square thing is
whatever you can
41:41
donate we need your money
comrade we
41:43
need to fund this we need to it
was all
41:45
about getting money and they
raised over
41:48
$100,000 at this conference all
about
41:51
getting money for their
organization and
41:53
the rest was just social
justice warrior
41:56
bullcrap let's let's listen to
the guy
41:59
who wasn't reparent Lee in
charge of
42:01
security or order and making
things go
42:04
well and he talked about this
ASL
42:07
American Sign Language hand
waving and
42:10
more first of all in this room
I see
42:13
that no one's clapping for me
it could
42:15
be because I'm not engaging but
it also
42:17
is because everyone's doing
this and
42:18
that's really important because
those
42:20
loud bursts of noise even
though this is
42:22
an
42:22
space when we can do something
like
42:25
reducing that that's really
important so
42:27
please don't clap shoot up
these and
42:29
additionally with the the noise
issue
42:31
like avoid hissing avoid waving
banners
42:34
right if you don't know what to
do show
42:36
up these right I'm sure there's
lots of
42:38
ways that we can communicate to
each
42:39
other without needing to rely on
42:41
something that's going to hurt
somebody
42:43
else we have quiet rooms that
are
42:45
available there's a range of
options of
42:47
these right on seven there's
one that
42:49
has video but no sound if you
still want
42:52
to be able to observe the
convention but
42:54
the sound is a shoe there's
also on
42:56
Piedmont 8 a completely quiet
room one
42:58
thing to note there please
don't go into
43:00
that space with anything that's
like an
43:02
aggressive scent for instance
right
43:04
because that's going to be
difficult for
43:06
people the principle of
collective
43:07
Security's we don't want to put
people
43:09
in stressful situations that
they don't
43:12
consent to right and we have to
be
43:13
accountable to each other that
our
43:15
actions might have negative
consequences
43:18
for other people if you we are
also
43:20
talking about de-escalation
right right
43:22
because people are gonna have
different
43:24
experiences of things that some
others
43:27
might think is normal heated
'no sand i
43:28
think and some that there's an
43:30
inevitability there but it's
going to be
43:32
really traumatic for people if
we're not
43:33
making an affirmative effort to
43:36
de-escalate each other and
deescalate
43:38
ourselves right do you want
having a
43:40
conflict with somebody feel
free to step
43:42
away right we're gonna make
sure that
43:44
you can get out of that space
let
43:46
somebody else step away if they
need to
43:48
step away right don't talk to
cops don't
43:52
talk to mega assholes we're
almost there
43:57
yes very lovely there's just
all just
44:01
lovey-dovey and everyone's
comrades and
44:03
don't talk to mcih assholes
don't talk
44:05
to cops and don't smell bad
don't wear
44:08
horrible perfume or just don't
smell bad
44:10
in this line a second you've
made an
44:13
observation that i'm gonna take
to the
44:15
next level which is this was
just a
44:18
fundraiser yes this is a
fundraiser for
44:21
people that are marginalized
nobody has
44:24
exploited them before in other
words the
44:26
autistic the people that can't
you don't
44:29
want to smell anything it's a
new source
44:31
of revenue to people that do
your clap
44:34
and your drug job and they
44:36
because they don't like any
noises that
44:37
also to go into the silent room
these
44:39
are people that are here in all
sorts of
44:42
weird ways and they have not
been
44:45
exploited for money well it
happened at
44:48
this conference for sure and
you know
44:51
people inherently feel that
that's going
44:53
on and then all their trigger
mechanisms
44:55
go into overdrive we are going
to need a
44:57
party that will organize
working people
45:00
to fight for the demands that
we want
45:01
and to win socialism thank you
so much
45:07
guys first of all Jena now this
this
45:11
gentleman he him makes a big
mistake
45:14
here by saying guys he has a
different
45:18
point but he starts off by
saying guys
45:20
big mistake guys first of all
James
45:25
Jackson Sacramento he him I
just want to
45:28
say can we please keep the
chatter to a
45:30
minimum I'm one of the people
who's very
45:31
very prone to sensory overload
there's a
45:34
lot of whispering and chatter
going on
45:35
it's making it very difficult
for me to
45:36
focus please can we just
45:38
I know it's we're all fresh and
ready to
45:40
go but can we please just keep
the
45:41
chatter to a minimum it's
affecting my
45:42
ability to focus thank you
Thank You
45:44
comrade okay is there a speaker
against
45:47
name point of personal
privilege yes
45:50
please do not use gendered
language took
45:54
to address everyone I know what
you were
46:03
angling for but this this point
of
46:06
personal privilege point of
information
46:08
point of debate you can
interrupt the
46:10
speaker at any time as long as
long as
46:12
you say a point of something
are there
46:15
is there any further debate on
the
46:17
credentials committee report
point how
46:21
important point of order yep
thank you
46:23
so sorry what's your name in my
name is
46:26
Trey
46:26
I used a them and he/him
pronouns I'm
46:31
from Memphis thank you for
asking nice
46:34
to meet you sorry
46:37
I had a question so Nick Jack
what is
46:43
his name or what if there's a
name Nick
46:45
J they were elected as an
antlered
46:49
delegate but what you're
hearing here is
46:52
what they spent five hours on
he's
46:54
voting on voting on all kinds
of stupid
46:57
useless stuff that got nowhere
because
47:00
everyone kept interrupting with
their
47:02
point of personal privilege
issues were
47:04
they resigned
47:05
is that correct Joe no okay
then never
47:10
mind now we're going to point of
47:13
information could you please
let us know
47:15
how many delegates there are so
they
47:18
didn't even know how many
delegates were
47:19
there while they're voting I
believe
47:27
1,057 thank you great awesome
and now
47:30
we're going to move on to the
47:33
resolutions very brief very
brief point
47:37
of information if you are using
a
47:39
microphone talk into it
directly like I
47:41
am right now and do not wave
your face
47:43
back and forth because people
cannot
47:45
hear you this is the way to say
it from
47:49
now on do not wave your face
back and
47:52
forth we can't hear you at the
back of
47:54
the room anyway they got in a
big
47:57
argument the voting wasn't done
properly
47:59
they would tried to vote online
that was
48:02
I'm gonna skip all these clips
they're
48:04
in the show notes if you want
to listen
48:05
to them then someone said point
of
48:07
debate the by laws don't allow
online
48:09
voting it just went on and on
and on and
48:12
on because these are not
socialists
48:14
these are social justice
warriors who
48:16
put on an old army jacket that
damaged
48:19
they are damaged that they have
lots of
48:22
issues not underplaying or
discounting
48:24
their issues but you're right
they were
48:25
there to be exploited and all
of a
48:28
sudden the last hour well that
changed
48:33
everything the real socialists
came in
48:35
from Germany from Austria from
Japan and
48:41
from Brooklyn one interesting
one and
48:45
they they would just a gas with
what
48:48
they had seen they were totally
and they
48:50
and they said it to here and
and mind
48:53
you when the real socialists
came in in
48:57
the last hour
48:58
there was no twinkling no
american sign
49:00
language people were Hootin and
Hollerin
49:02
no interruptions point of
personal
49:04
privilege I can't stand the
noise it's
49:06
triggering none of that it was
just
49:08
hooting and hollering because
this is
49:10
what this is the real
Socialists who
49:12
came in and they had a message
for this
49:14
group of misfits this is the
German
49:18
socialists following your
Congress I
49:20
have to say something you've got
49:22
everything to have success so
you are
49:26
smart you have got passion you
treat
49:29
each other fairly most of the
time and
49:34
you got the momentum so please
stay
49:38
together I know that parties
sometimes
49:41
have growing pains but go
forward make
49:46
it productive and please avoid
the
49:49
sickness of the left and that's
the
49:51
splitting we have several
examples of
49:54
that in in Europe and don't do
that
49:57
don't because they saw it these
guys saw
50:01
what was going on and like hey
don't do
50:03
that don't do that here don't
do that
50:05
and and as I'm from Germany
it's my duty
50:10
to say very loud and clear
50:13
anti-fascism is no crime it's
the
50:16
opposite anti-fascism is a duty
to all
50:20
Democrats and we all together
we are
50:23
anti-fascist we are going to
the streets
50:26
and campaigning together for
artificial
50:29
democratic and social society
and if we
50:32
will not do that nobody will do
the job
50:35
so our responsibility grew and
let's go
50:38
on forward and dear comrades
I'm so
50:41
happy to be here thank you very
much
50:44
so coming here to incite
violence on our
50:47
streets by saying an tyfa is
good it's
50:50
good to be a anti-fascist take
it to the
50:54
streets yeah this guy is you
know these
50:58
are the people who are really
50:59
problematic and you hear the
the hoot
51:01
and the hollering no ones no
one's
51:03
getting it they're all hooting
in
51:05
Holland because they're LARPing
children
51:08
they have no idea what this so
there's
51:12
an issue I want to mention so
when I was
51:14
in high school I was one of the
lucky /
51:17
unlucky appointees to the Model
UN one
51:22
of those kids that was in the
Model UN
51:24
they have this around orange
robe
51:26
literally arm how interesting
oh yeah
51:27
absolutely and so the model you
our mock
51:31
you in I think was also called
by this
51:32
is the Model UN and they every
school
51:35
got to send two representatives
as
51:37
though it was a country to the
mock the
51:40
Model UN and I think it was in
Berkeley
51:42
they had it of course that one
of the
51:45
big auditoriums at Cal and so
we all
51:48
went there and stayed in the
hotel they
51:49
put us up in a hotel in downtown
51:51
Berkeley and me and if I've pal
was Bill
51:55
Katie we ended up spending most
of our
51:57
time tossing toilet paper rolls
out the
51:59
window to see if they would
unravel and
52:01
make a streamer but during the
Model UN
52:04
you learned Robert's Rules of
Order
52:06
which have all these points of
order
52:08
points of information points at
this
52:10
point at that points at this
points of
52:11
that and there's a route
there's a
52:13
relatively maybe there's about
12 of
52:16
them but in that event that you
were
52:18
listening to they had they were
making
52:20
some up I mean there was there
was no
52:22
but there's no such thing as
being a
52:23
point of cliche or whatever was
one
52:25
point of personal privilege no
point of
52:28
personal privilege is one of
them
52:29
pointless debate point of
information
52:31
that's one of them I think it
was point
52:35
of debate or something they
said that
52:36
was not one of them but all
those other
52:38
was a point of orders the main
when
52:40
point of information pointed to
point of
52:42
personal privilege those are
all real
52:44
and so when you went to this
thing it
52:46
was a big UN's assembly and it
had you
52:48
had little signage and you sat
there
52:49
like like one of those UN
ambassadors
52:52
and you and they I don't know
what they
52:54
accomplished I do know that it
kind of
52:58
childish in the way that we just
53:00
witnessed with the DSA it was a
lot of
53:03
point at this point of that
everyone's
53:05
trying to show off that they
know the
53:06
rules and so they wanted to say
53:08
something we didn't have the
pronoun
53:10
thing obviously but it was in
it that's
53:13
what I was reminded of I was
reminded of
53:15
kind of a high school group you
know
53:18
trying to you know figure out
the world
53:21
and they're up there in some
fake
53:23
meeting it was it was borderline
53:25
pathetic and so who shows up at
the end
53:29
to shame these people into
these these
53:34
sad people into giving their
money to
53:37
the Socialist Party is the head
53:40
muckety-muck of the DSA
although maybe
53:42
not in by title Linda Sarsour
our
53:46
favorite muslimah from Brooklyn
and she
53:50
gave them an earful about how
they were
53:53
doing it wrong and they need to
pony up
53:56
and she also interesting refers
to their
54:00
national political committee
vote which
54:02
has the fun acronym NPC I just
couldn't
54:06
get past the irony of that
listen to
54:09
Linda Sarsour wrapping up this
54:11
Democratic Socialist of America
54:14
conference and the question
that DSA
54:16
needs to ask themselves is who
do you
54:18
want to be what are you trying
to do in
54:20
this moment what kind of story
do you
54:23
want to be told about dear by
the way
54:26
speak of milieu who does she
sound like
54:29
to you
54:31
I'm not getting it right away
well Wanda
54:34
Sykes she sounds just like
Wanda Sykes
54:38
the comedial that's interesting
have a
54:41
listen and the question that
DSA needs
54:43
to ask themselves is who do you
want to
54:45
be what are you trying to do in
this
54:47
moment what kind of story do
you want to
54:51
be told about DSA forty years
from now
54:54
if you are here because DSA is
supposed
54:57
to be making you feel
comfortable you're
55:00
in the wrong place
55:01
if you are here to tell DSA you
need to
55:04
do these 17,000 899 things to
make me
55:08
feel good this is not the
organization
55:10
for you if you are in DSA to
take one
55:13
collective liberation movement
to divide
55:15
it up into things that make you
feel
55:17
comfortable this is not the
organization
55:19
please there are people who are
counting
55:22
on us literally there are
people whose
55:27
lives depend on us building a
political
55:29
movement that is centered on
values and
55:31
principles and the most broken
and
55:33
marginalized people in this
country so
55:37
freedom in this country is not
free it's
55:41
just not so if you think that
you're
55:44
gonna talk to me about
capitalism and we
55:46
gotta smash the patriarchy and
capital I
55:48
get that got a do pattern
attracts cuz
55:51
you live in a capitalist nation
right
55:52
now I'm sorry to break it to
you right
55:55
now and in order for us to
build a
55:57
sustainable movement that is
worthy to
56:00
the people we are fighting for
we gotta
56:02
get our finances together we
need money
56:05
to build this movement right
some of you
56:08
may be like well I got a lot of
time on
56:10
my hands I can come and
volunteer not
56:11
everybody has that time so
don't be all
56:14
about you and your I don't like
this I
56:17
don't like that I don't feel
it's not
56:19
about you it really is not
about you
56:23
tonight when you're voting
tonight on
56:26
NPC members you vote for the
most
56:29
qualified people the most
compassionate
56:31
people the most passionate
people it's
56:35
not about who you like and
who's in
56:37
another faction who's in
another caucus
56:38
it's not about that and if
that's what
56:41
you're gonna do tonight then
you're
56:42
proving to marginalize people
all over
56:44
this country
56:45
that you don't give a damn
about the
56:47
most broken people you only
care about
56:49
yourself and what you believe
in what
56:50
you think so there it is that's
the
56:52
message give us your money you
56:55
marginalized poor people you're
no good
56:58
and shut up about your problems
give us
57:01
your money
57:02
and I think this Linda Sarsour
she's the
57:05
one to keep your eye on you
know we had
57:07
the bike we've been keeping our
eye on
57:09
her she's horrible I will
mention
57:11
something though it's not a bad
idea in
57:14
terms of in terms of their
approach more
57:18
thinking about what explaining
these
57:20
poor marginalized people which
is
57:22
exactly what this is it's not
many of
57:27
them have such a weird
self-esteem issue
57:30
it's not like they have low
self-esteem
57:32
or high self-esteem they have a
an
57:34
unusual self-esteem because
they have
57:36
they many of them are they
them's and
57:39
they're and they're there n B's
and
57:41
they're non binaries and
they're there
57:45
they're been poisoned by this
by the
57:48
food supply I don't know what
what
57:50
happened to half of them and
there's a
57:51
lot of weird autistic ones
there that
57:53
are seem functional but they're
high
57:55
functional there's as they call
57:57
themselves they generally may be
58:00
susceptible to because they've
this is
58:03
like an insurance salesman I'm
listening
58:05
to these different clips and
you have
58:08
different approaches let me try
this
58:10
approach and see if I can shake
some
58:13
money out of these people let
me try
58:14
that approach and let's see if
I can
58:16
shake some money out of these
people the
58:17
the Sarsour approach is they
they have
58:20
low self-esteem let me tell
them what
58:23
they already know and condemned
them and
58:27
telling it their shit is what
she did
58:30
exactly shit that was a very
terrible
58:32
thing she did she said you are
you are
58:34
shit give us your money let me
write
58:39
this down I'm gonna see if we
can try
58:41
that in our newsletter won't
have that
58:46
many people that are that that
that that
58:50
necessitate that sort of thing
but I've
58:52
I was at one time it was a
sales guy
58:55
that took a liking to me
because he
58:57
couldn't sell me anything so he
he was
59:00
insurance guys when I was in
college and
59:02
I have pretty decent not great
sales
59:07
resistance and I've run into
people that
59:09
I can't write there's no way
I'm gonna
59:11
get out of it I just okay I'm
out of
59:13
here
59:13
whatever you
59:15
but most feel like an resist
and then if
59:17
you go to the Middle East and
deal with
59:19
some of these these Arab and
Lebanese
59:22
and some of these sales guys
you just
59:24
great
59:25
generally speaking you're not
gonna lose
59:27
a lot of money but you got to
pay up
59:32
most American Western sales
guys you
59:36
know they have all these tricks
and they
59:37
go from one to the other to the
other
59:39
and this guy went through the
entire
59:41
litany and he kind of ended
with this
59:43
condemning type of sales pitch
and he
59:48
never could get break me I and
so
59:50
eventually he says you know I
like you I
59:54
need you bought me a cup of
coffee and
59:56
that was the end of it but
which I
59:57
thought was a personal victory
victory
59:59
for you I had I had a similar
situation
1:00:02
just recently when I took my
car over to
1:00:04
get it washed at this place I
kept
1:00:06
seeing this in Marin County
it's a
1:00:08
washing place I saw up on the
other side
1:00:10
of the Richardson bay bridge
and it is
1:00:13
theirs with cars out there and
there
1:00:15
were scrubbing them down there
just like
1:00:16
a hand wash that has a machine
1:00:19
augmentation and you go I say I
gotta
1:00:21
get my car wash there go in
there the
1:00:22
guy has a sales pitch for for
this $500
1:00:28
worth a thousand and wax job
where they
1:00:32
wax your car this other stuff
on they
1:00:34
put this other stuff on and
they put
1:00:35
this other stuff on it and so I
gotta
1:00:37
tell the story if you don't my
weight
1:00:39
can I can I just guess the
ending did
1:00:41
your 25 year old Lexus come out
looking
1:00:43
like a 20-19 model I never
bought into
1:00:46
it because I luckily did not
have any I
1:00:48
just was gonna go to the paid
cash for a
1:00:50
thing and I didn't have 500
bucks in
1:00:52
cash and that's what was that
was my out
1:00:54
it was great I would love to do
this I
1:00:58
will come back and do this later
1:01:00
but I only have sixty dollars
in cash
1:01:03
and so I got to get a gas gas
filled and
1:01:06
I got to get a wash okay he
finally gave
1:01:08
up realizing I was telling the
truth but
1:01:11
but one of the things he did
was hit the
1:01:14
back of the of the car he had
us half of
1:01:16
the of the trunk area
1:01:18
he had topology Paulson Poston
pause and
1:01:20
then he did that he did a whole
little
1:01:22
section he's to feel that feel
that in
1:01:23
you felt it was really smooth
and clean
1:01:25
it was like wow yeah that's
great he
1:01:28
the whole car be like yeah I
don't only
1:01:29
got 60 bucks okay so I go
through a
1:01:31
comes through the washing
machine comes
1:01:33
out the other and they wipe it
down and
1:01:35
do all what they do which is
kind of
1:01:36
interesting in itself and then
I go and
1:01:39
I see first aid as I check that
area it
1:01:41
was no different than the rest
of the
1:01:44
car Wow
1:01:47
close call John all right shut
your shit
1:01:52
give us your money the final
two clips
1:01:55
now this was a real Socialist
member of
1:01:59
the DSA DSA Austin in fact I
think he
1:02:04
may even be the president now
of the
1:02:06
Democratic Socialist of Austin
they're
1:02:08
about eight hundred members
strong and I
1:02:10
wanted to play these two clips
because
1:02:12
this is well the first one is
what the
1:02:15
claim is that the DSA has done
today for
1:02:18
you in the American political
system
1:02:20
since our last convention in
2017 DSA
1:02:23
members have been critical to
the
1:02:25
ongoing teachers strike wave to
the
1:02:28
election of class struggle
candidates
1:02:30
like Alexandra Ocasio Cortes
and we've
1:02:33
made Medicare for all the most
important
1:02:35
issue of the 2020 national
primaries
1:02:40
that notice no no triggering
their
1:02:44
twinkling so they so the claim
is that
1:02:47
they're the ones that put
Medicare for
1:02:49
all up front in the in the
political
1:02:52
conversation I don't think
that's true I
1:02:54
know it's not true the hoop who
did that
1:02:57
then anybody but them in Austin
we've
1:03:02
organised to win a city council
1:03:03
ordinance for paid sick leave
for
1:03:05
hundreds of thousands of
workers that's
1:03:07
true we also organize to win a
long
1:03:10
fought campaign that forced
Congressman
1:03:12
lloyd Doggett a millionaire
Democrat to
1:03:15
sign on to the Medicare for all
bill
1:03:17
pressure done so much more
political
1:03:19
education canvassing for a
green new
1:03:22
deal standing in solidarity with
1:03:24
organized labor and beyond
1:03:26
and now the chair of our health
justice
1:03:28
committee Heidi Sloan is
running for
1:03:30
Congress as a Democratic
Socialist in
1:03:32
Texas
1:03:34
good one so the the thing that
got me
1:03:38
though is his description of
why he
1:03:40
joined the DSA but mind you
he's wearing
1:03:42
a Bernese Bernie Sanders
sweatshirt so
1:03:46
this is a Bernie guy and I
think this is
1:03:48
where Bernie is going to get a
lot of
1:03:49
leverage from from people of
voting age
1:03:52
marginalized as they may be but
listen
1:03:55
cuz I think kids can identify
with this
1:03:57
message you didn't hear this
throughout
1:03:58
the entire conference except
this one
1:04:00
time my life was very different
before I
1:04:03
joined ESA as I was becoming a
socialist
1:04:05
I didn't know how to cope with
my
1:04:08
recognition of all the problems
in
1:04:10
society problems that directly
affect my
1:04:13
life and those of my friends
rent is too
1:04:15
damn high
1:04:16
we couldn't get jobs or jobs
with
1:04:18
benefits and global warming was
making
1:04:21
Texas summers even more
miserable in the
1:04:23
short term and dooming humanity
maybe
1:04:26
even the capitalist class in
the long
1:04:28
term my friends also didn't
know how to
1:04:30
cope with these problems or
with my
1:04:32
constant bickering and
agitating about
1:04:34
them I was becoming frustrated
with my
1:04:37
newfound ability to see the
problems of
1:04:39
the world alongside what I felt
was my
1:04:42
inability to do anything about
it
1:04:44
as someone who was broke and
thought
1:04:46
about every single penny this
was a big
1:04:48
deal to me
1:04:49
but it also wasn't a big deal
to the
1:04:52
table and that's what was
important
1:04:54
because it meant that everyone
had what
1:04:56
they needed to fully
participate without
1:04:58
the distractions of just
getting by in
1:05:00
society by relieving some of
the burdens
1:05:03
that capitalism puts on us we
were able
1:05:06
to devote our energy toward
organizing
1:05:08
together this was so radically
different
1:05:10
than the life I was used to
with my
1:05:12
friends we had a culture of
invent
1:05:15
moming each other for every
slice of
1:05:17
pizza or six-pack of beer and it
1:05:19
fostered mistrust questioning
and shame
1:05:23
but here someone who could do
so just
1:05:27
got coffee and snacks for
everyone and
1:05:28
we proceeded to have a
productive
1:05:30
meeting what do you know before
I knew
1:05:32
it I was spending 30 hours a
week on DSA
1:05:34
and trying to build
1:05:36
now I think this is really
telling
1:05:38
because this is what kids are
witnessing
1:05:41
and I'm sure that there's
frustration
1:05:43
and mistrust and distrust with
this you
1:05:46
know splitting up bills a
thousand ways
1:05:48
ven mowing money back and forth
I can
1:05:50
see where kids get
disillusioned by that
1:05:53
and they also just want free
food and so
1:05:55
when you show up with free food
then you
1:05:58
can reel them in it's very weak
they're
1:06:02
very easy to get so that should
be noted
1:06:07
I think we've noted it uh this
has been
1:06:12
my constant complaint about the
fact you
1:06:15
can't get a summer job anymore
yep I
1:06:17
mean when I was a kid hmm I was
working
1:06:21
summer jobs when I was fifteen
you had
1:06:22
to get a work permit if you're
under
1:06:24
some yeah under 16 but at
fifteen if you
1:06:28
got this permit hey you'll get
it we
1:06:30
didn't work during the summer
so you'd
1:06:31
make money or we there were
paperboy
1:06:34
routes I used to have one of
those two
1:06:35
of them actually and you could
make
1:06:37
money that way there's no such
thing
1:06:39
anymore and it was actually
taken over
1:06:41
by people and driving around in
cars if
1:06:45
it even exists the whole thing
has been
1:06:48
structured over time to like
eliminate
1:06:51
all these jobs I think that the
movement
1:06:54
towards shoring and sending
stuff to
1:06:58
China I think has a lot to do
with it
1:07:00
which Trump has been trying to
correct
1:07:02
which is good for him but
nobody that's
1:07:05
nobody cares about that so
they're just
1:07:07
bitching and moaning about the
fact that
1:07:09
it's a mess but the real
causation of
1:07:11
this situation is never
addressed it's
1:07:14
not addressed war was the
causation
1:07:15
addressed to this work what are
you
1:07:17
gonna do to fix the problem but
just
1:07:19
become socialist and take
everybody's
1:07:21
money and then rip off the the
1:07:24
marginalised I mean this is
ridiculous
1:07:26
but okay that's what you feel
1:07:30
comfortable there kid so one
final
1:07:33
thought / comment bring it back
around
1:07:36
to these children who are going
out
1:07:42
apparently allegedly shooting
and
1:07:44
killing lots of people if these
really
1:07:46
are the pictures I'm seeing
1:07:48
they look marginal
1:07:49
they look like they could be in
the DSA
1:07:52
they look like everyone else
there and I
1:07:55
noticed a an FBI statement
regarding the
1:08:00
Dayton shooter the FBI for some
reason
1:08:04
said well this kid have was
really into
1:08:09
some certain ideologies and the
1:08:12
statement reads something along
the
1:08:14
lines of we're looking into the
here the
1:08:17
Dayton shooter was exploring
violent
1:08:20
ideologies
1:08:21
what are these violent
ideologies no
1:08:24
where did the FBI expand on
that but I
1:08:28
did receive information noon
knew shits
1:08:32
come to light men from our
producers
1:08:35
several people pointed me in the
1:08:37
direction of the Bronze Age
mindset
1:08:41
which I'd never heard of I
presume
1:08:43
you've not heard of either and
it is a
1:08:46
book which you can get on
Amazon slash
1:08:49
I'd say almost manifesto about
ninety
1:08:52
eight pages written by someone
who calls
1:08:55
himself the Bronze Age pervert
he does
1:08:58
have a following at tens of
thousands on
1:09:00
on Twitter
1:09:01
very odd I've read through this
entire
1:09:04
thing I don't want to jump into
it today
1:09:06
because I need a lot more
parsing I mean
1:09:08
this could be a joke by itself
I mean I
1:09:11
don't even know if this is real
it seems
1:09:13
like it is but this bronze
Bronze Age
1:09:16
mindset a lot of the tropes in
this book
1:09:19
return and are spelled out
literally
1:09:23
right down to the we need to
split up
1:09:25
America into States based on
race or
1:09:28
culture or background is from
this book
1:09:31
so that's what was in the El
Paso a
1:09:34
manifesto it was what's written
in
1:09:36
Christchurch manifesto it is
possible
1:09:41
there is an ideology that some
of these
1:09:43
children are latching onto and
it is
1:09:47
very nee last nihilist very
much like
1:09:52
there's nothing else I can do
except
1:09:55
these five things and standing
up like a
1:09:59
so-called man is one of them
1:10:02
and I see how it can play into
people
1:10:06
like this so uh Sunday I'll
I'll dive
1:10:10
deep into that because it's
fascinating
1:10:12
if true you hadn't heard of it
I presume
1:10:16
no but I'm looking at the guise
of the
1:10:19
Bruns Bronze Age perverts
Twitter page
1:10:23
where he's got 20,000 followers
which is
1:10:25
not that many and his
borderline satire
1:10:30
this is why I'm not entirely all
1:10:33
multiple people have sent this
to me and
1:10:35
said this is what a lot of
millennial
1:10:39
anons are into these days he
has a
1:10:42
podcast too which is even worse
than the
1:10:44
Twitter feed I mean I can't
even it's
1:10:46
like some Caribbean type accent
he says
1:10:49
he's broadcasting from Suriname
you know
1:10:52
I don't know I really don't
know but
1:10:56
there it is possible that there
are
1:10:58
other ideologies out there
which could
1:11:01
just be a hijack of kids minds
it could
1:11:04
be for all I know a programming
project
1:11:07
and then you know you look no
matter
1:11:09
what it is you add some
pharmaceuticals
1:11:11
to the to the mix and you got
danger on
1:11:13
your hand that's the that's
that'll wrap
1:11:15
it up for me because that's
what no one
1:11:16
is talking about and why would
we well
1:11:20
oh yes no I will I will do one
more the
1:11:24
reason why we never will let us
go to
1:11:27
Anderson Cooper from the
previous
1:11:29
podcast this was what he
claimed they
1:11:33
putting out a blanket tweet
when in the
1:11:34
wake you know on the day
somebody has
1:11:36
died implying that they were on
1:11:39
antidepressants and that's what
caused
1:11:41
their suicide
1:11:42
that just seems irresponsible
well
1:11:44
Anderson I could say the same
thing to
1:11:46
you given how many
pharmaceutical
1:11:47
companies advertise on your
show not
1:11:57
impacted by who advertises on
my show I
1:11:59
don't know revenues on my show
it's not
1:12:01
any interest to me I'm sure it
is to
1:12:03
people in this company but I
don't care
1:12:05
what I care about is people who
are
1:12:08
dying and there's a stigma for
people
1:12:10
actually seeking medical help
for
1:12:12
something that could save their
life
1:12:15
and you know and I think it's
important
1:12:18
so so two things yeah you Scott
yeah I
1:12:21
know he says it saved my life
yeah we
1:12:24
didn't hear that the first time
did we
1:12:26
no I didn't and yeah it saved
his life
1:12:30
so the antidepressant saved his
life but
1:12:33
still this is the problem with
big
1:12:36
pharmaceutical so here's a guy
who's
1:12:37
shilling for it because it
saves his
1:12:39
life one of the lucky ones I
guess but I
1:12:42
don't care about advertisers I
don't
1:12:45
know who gives a crap it's not
important
1:12:47
unless Turner Broadcasting
brings all
1:12:51
the advertisers together once a
year to
1:12:54
do the so called up front where
the
1:12:56
advertisers who Anderson Cooper
has
1:12:59
never met goes and schmooze
ah's them to
1:13:02
make sure that they will
advertise on
1:13:05
the stations that belong to
Turner
1:13:07
Broadcasting CNN is one of
those all of
1:13:10
course underneath Time Warner
and
1:13:13
Anderson was there on stage
even please
1:13:17
welcome Anderson Cooper
1:13:19
[Music]
1:13:22
so much do you think he noticed
those
1:13:27
people in the crowd do they
think that
1:13:29
were just his audience or did
they not
1:13:30
know they were advertisers I
know
1:13:33
anything about sports do you
think
1:13:34
Anderson Cooper at Turner our
shows and
1:13:38
stars are constantly engaging
with fans
1:13:40
this is true across every genre
every
1:13:42
demo every platform really
everywhere
1:13:44
Turner likes to call itself a
fan
1:13:46
engagement company joining me
to talk
1:13:48
about this or to entertainment
icons
1:13:49
please welcome Conan O'Brien and
1:13:51
Shaquille O'Neal two other guys
who know
1:13:53
nothing about the advertisers
1:13:59
and just listen to the
advertising
1:14:01
jargon and then I'll quit it
1:14:06
[Applause]
1:14:08
how're you doing I'm doing
great yeah
1:14:10
why the hell are you here I'm
not the
1:14:14
entire Republic is hanging by a
thread
1:14:17
well to be honest I guess you
didn't
1:14:19
know why he was there he didn't
know
1:14:20
that his job there is to sell
the
1:14:22
advertisers the big
pharmaceuticals who
1:14:25
advertise who he doesn't know
he might
1:14:27
he must have met somebody
eating a scone
1:14:34
and you're hosting this show
yeah quite
1:14:38
and even whiter that's right
you guys
1:14:43
you would how do they contact
you if
1:14:46
they suddenly need you trump
just took a
1:14:49
shit on the East Lawn what I
love about
1:14:53
these up fronts is they're all
these
1:14:54
terms that I don't know what
they mean
1:14:56
like like premium engagement
different
1:14:59
everything Kevin O'Reilly said
I don't
1:15:00
really understand like yeah
1:15:01
differentiator yeah
1:15:03
digital custom yes variants
cord cutter
1:15:07
maybe that's his tactic maybe
Anderson
1:15:10
just doesn't know anything but
he
1:15:12
certainly was there very funny
but it by
1:15:14
they were just before you leave
that
1:15:16
clip it's funny that called
Conan who's
1:15:20
irreverent he doesn't care no I
mean he
1:15:22
got something like 30 to 80
million
1:15:24
dollars from NBC could when
they fired
1:15:26
him and he says cord cutter
yeah yeah
1:15:34
but again well Anderson I could
say the
1:15:37
same thing to you given how many
1:15:38
pharmaceutical companies that
advertise
1:15:39
on your show I don't know what
look at
1:15:45
it but I got to be tell I look
at it I'm
1:15:47
not insane not impacted by who
1:15:49
advertises on my show oh okay I
guess
1:15:51
you are Anderson cuz you had to
go show
1:15:53
up and do the dog and pony show
liar
1:15:57
that's a good catch
1:15:59
and with that I'd like to thank
you for
1:16:01
your courage and say in the
morning to
1:16:02
you the man who put the C and
comrade
1:16:04
John C Dvorak in the morning to
you mr.
1:16:08
Adam curry in the morning I'll
ship to
1:16:09
see boots on the ground feet in
the air
1:16:11
subs in the water and all the
Dames are
1:16:13
nights out there in the morning
trolls
1:16:15
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1:16:17
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1:16:42
is not gone we've pulled this
is the
1:16:46
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we've had
1:16:50
to use it was the the 33 on the
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1:16:54
I think a container or
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1:16:57
and the side of a crane Oh a
crane I'm
1:17:01
sorry you're right Adam at sea
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and well and active he's on no
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1:17:05
social calm actually but he he
brought
1:17:07
us that artwork it was from I
think
1:17:10
episode around the 600's
1:17:13
it was really an oldie because
we could
1:17:16
not find anything appropriate
for for
1:17:19
the episode of the episode was
title
1:17:21
replaces and yeah it just it
just wasn't
1:17:26
there there was just nothing
that really
1:17:28
that really hit us we had there
was one
1:17:33
piece I liked but you didn't
like which
1:17:35
piece was that well I'm now I'm
gonna
1:17:38
have to reveal the the sort
information
1:17:42
you'd like you'd like the
Portland
1:17:44
campers and I just thought it
was you
1:17:46
know it wasn't very visual very
small
1:17:50
you know a small to small
mainly yeah I
1:17:53
was exaggerating and everything
else was
1:17:55
just you know they stopped with
the
1:17:57
faces of politicians it's
really not
1:17:59
funny anymore we're not gonna
use them
1:18:01
no just not everything was to
me with
1:18:05
the one I did use in the
newsletter and
1:18:06
I still think is usable for the
burgh 4l
1:18:09
board is the Buddha judge as
Alfred E
1:18:12
Newman we used that one on the
last
1:18:14
episode on the previous one no
we didn't
1:18:18
oh I'm sorry you're right no we
use them
1:18:20
up at one I'm sorry you're
right yeah
1:18:22
but I didn't like Buddha just
well
1:18:24
here's the way I'm gonna tell
you about
1:18:26
that piece of art a and I did
use it on
1:18:28
a newsletter and I wouldn't
mind using
1:18:29
it again I looked up I went
online and
1:18:33
found all the
1:18:34
part of turning Budaj edge into
alfred e
1:18:37
newman and this piece was so far
1:18:40
superior in the way it was
photoshop to
1:18:43
make it look like it was Buddha
just
1:18:45
looking at a gal 30 Newman
there was
1:18:47
nothing out there that even
compared to
1:18:49
it oh it was a good piece I'm
just I
1:18:51
just politicians on our artwork
is tired
1:18:55
the funniest one was George
Bush and
1:18:58
Obama morph together and after
that I
1:19:00
think it was just kind of done
there was
1:19:02
a good one with Jeb Bush in
those
1:19:03
eyeglasses yeah well you know
what I
1:19:08
mean though this is this is a
Democratic
1:19:20
primary these people are not
really all
1:19:22
that important on an
international scale
1:19:25
for sure I'm trying to find the
Alfred
1:19:29
Enuma because I forgot the
artist I
1:19:31
think was he might I don't want
to say
1:19:32
it was Mike Riley but it was
some one of
1:19:35
our better guy Darren might
have been
1:19:37
Darren I don't know I'm sure it
wasn't
1:19:40
Darren Darren doesn't do that
type of
1:19:42
that type of thing this is
really one of
1:19:44
these thing I know how this
kind of how
1:19:46
it was done I don't think I
could do it
1:19:48
but I can't find it I'll keep
looking
1:19:53
infinitely well anyway we do
want to
1:19:56
thank all of our artists for
giving it a
1:19:57
good shot a good try as you can
see
1:19:59
artwork does make it into other
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1:20:01
of the show and no one just ask
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now we've had who knew one
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1:20:19
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I think
1:20:24
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maybe more of
1:20:27
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1:20:30
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very
1:20:33
surprising I was stunned by
this have
1:20:36
you sent these names on to Paul
no I'm
1:20:38
still got Q I got one more name
to put I
1:20:40
gotta put them in a file in the
centum
1:20:42
over to Paul
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it'll take me another few days
okay well
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1:21:26
get no credit because it's
communism
1:21:29
hello our Lord Marx Lord Marx
what he
1:21:35
said yeah we start we got
actually a
1:21:38
balance show today with three
executive
1:21:40
and three associate executive
starting
1:21:41
with anonymous from Athens
Georgia came
1:21:43
it was $686 he won't get credit
because
1:21:46
he's anonymous 686 bucks hello
from FEMA
1:21:49
region for I've been listening
for about
1:21:51
4 months now and I'm afraid
that I may
1:21:52
have overstayed my sampling
status and
1:21:56
crossed into douche status I
need to
1:21:59
request a D douching please
grab the
1:22:03
douche bucket and the D do sure
you've
1:22:07
been deduced last month JC d
claim that
1:22:13
the No Agenda show is a public
benefit
1:22:15
podcast yes I agree 100%
1:22:19
in order to memorialize this
designation
1:22:21
please accept my donation of
686 thank
1:22:25
you for keeping me keeping me
companies
1:22:28
on my long daily drives oh good
a
1:22:30
commuter anonymous is there any
1:22:33
knowledge behind the 686 number
is this
1:22:36
ever set he never said hmm if
you look
1:22:40
it up maybe no maybe something
that in
1:22:41
the troll room would know
immediately
1:22:44
what 686 refers to okay sir JB
the
1:22:49
knight of Delaware Maryland and
Virginia
1:22:53
in Clarksville Maryland
1:22:56
three 6008 ITM crackpot and
buzzkill my
1:23:01
donation of three 6008
yesterday plus my
1:23:04
recurring monthly donations
which has
1:23:05
been sent out today by cheque
makes me a
1:23:08
baron today actually I need you
to kick
1:23:10
in a penny to make it official
it is I
1:23:15
also host reminds me of the old
Sprint
1:23:18
commercials it also my birthday
today do
1:23:21
I know if he's on the birthday
list deal
1:23:24
for me on today
1:23:25
eight eight no agenda show so
our
1:23:28
anniversary Mimi and I 8 8 88
yes happy
1:23:31
anniversary and which is China
8 by the
1:23:35
way as a Chinese lucky number
one of the
1:23:37
big ones yes this was also
something
1:23:39
with on the Heil Hitler or
something I
1:23:42
heard no Heil Hydra oh sorry
1:23:44
god I got it wrong yeah so
we're having
1:23:48
a meet-up today in Berkeley at
the
1:23:50
Gilman brewery at 5 to 5 to 8 I
figured
1:23:53
good time to come and be you at
6 first
1:23:57
I heard Adam on the Howard
Stern Show in
1:24:00
2010 I believe it started
listening at
1:24:01
that point around episode 200
my first
1:24:03
donation was on to 27 2012 for
$5 and
1:24:07
yes I was a douchebag prior to
that then
1:24:10
I went on to monthly payment
plan he
1:24:11
goes on and on about this by
the way I
1:24:13
have listened to nearly every
show since
1:24:16
2010 and I can unequivocally
say I am
1:24:19
better for it as I see through
the BS
1:24:21
with your help I used to be a
Republican
1:24:24
switch to libertarian and then
switch to
1:24:26
unaffiliated for Jay CDs
comments mm-hmm
1:24:30
on a show about being able to
vote for
1:24:32
anyone in a primary I no longer
catch
1:24:34
Fox News MSNBC or CNN they all
make me
1:24:37
sick I have also used numerous
tips over
1:24:42
the years from both of you
including one
1:24:44
of my favorite TSA travel tips
from Adam
1:24:46
by taking by faking I had a bad
shoulder
1:24:49
that was actually I can't raise
my arms
1:24:52
can't reach my arms being
radiated by
1:24:55
the first generation of
backscatter
1:24:56
machines I have hit multiple
people in
1:24:59
the mouth over the years
including
1:25:01
co-workers friends and uber
lyft drivers
1:25:04
we need more of them I think
I've had a
1:25:07
most luck with the rideshare
drivers
1:25:10
which is sad but it's amazing
that
1:25:12
conversations you can have when
looking
1:25:14
through the no agenda lens with
everyday
1:25:16
people of course second I urge
the other
1:25:19
cheap bastard you know who you
are
1:25:21
the donate because the amygdala
are
1:25:24
growing out of control and will
become
1:25:27
giant heads before too long
have a
1:25:30
couple of douche bag call-outs
for some
1:25:32
of the people I know who listen
but
1:25:34
barely donate at least I don't
think
1:25:36
they donate sorry in advance if
you do
1:25:38
and then he goes on here comes
the
1:25:40
call-outs George with the round
table
1:25:56
chef we always have mutton and
Mead and
1:25:59
the mutton was especially
grisly last
1:26:01
time I was in town so I have a
request
1:26:04
for this week I'm making a
surprise
1:26:06
appearance at the round table
as you're
1:26:09
becoming a baron I would like
to request
1:26:10
for today's round table
Maryland crab
1:26:14
cakes and a six pack of natty
Boh for
1:26:18
each night in attendance to
pair with it
1:26:20
what's natty voted we know I
don't know
1:26:22
but I I it's here he dropped
off the box
1:26:25
so I haven't looked in it no I
don't
1:26:29
know if I'd want to natty Boh
anyway he
1:26:35
just skip ahead I'm sick and
tired of
1:26:38
only eating Italian restaurants
on
1:26:40
vacation and the champagne
shaped
1:26:43
bathtubs heart shape always in
the
1:26:46
Poconos he's giving up his
baronet of
1:26:51
the Poconos title and he now
wants to
1:26:53
become Baron of the Chesapeake
Bay in
1:26:54
the Outer Banks of North
Carolina that's
1:26:57
why we have America crab cakes
instead
1:27:00
of cheap Chinese crab cakes as
he states
1:27:03
quite quite a long notes or JB
yeah and
1:27:07
now we'll wrap it with a sir JB
night of
1:27:09
the DMV Delaware Delaware
Maryland and
1:27:11
Virginia not the Department of
Motor
1:27:14
Vehicles and he he wanted a
Reverend
1:27:17
Manning money shot and respects
a
1:27:20
showing of money shop
1:27:23
that's a money shot
1:27:34
you've got karma thank you very
much see
1:27:38
you at your title upgrades or
JV now we
1:27:42
have a great we have a donor who
1:27:47
unfortunately I to go look at
the that
1:27:58
means he's got to go over to
his web
1:28:00
browser it's Internet ie 3.0
that's
1:28:03
right we're gonna connect to the
1:28:04
squirrelmail we're gonna find
you know
1:28:05
because we because this is the
only way
1:28:11
you
1:28:18
[Music]
1:28:22
yeah actually just logged in at
32
1:28:30
second bed for your convenience
and you
1:28:33
just now logged in it's slow
today I
1:28:36
don't know what's going on I
mean it's
1:28:38
like really painfully slow you
know he's
1:28:41
been getting DNS attacks
recently es e
1:28:43
ele why how do you spell that
1:28:47
v es ily Rudolph Rudolph here
it is na
1:28:57
came right up imagine of
squirrelmail
1:29:00
last time I gave my written
note with
1:29:02
the donation to Adam during a
meeting in
1:29:04
London two months ago I was
pleasantly
1:29:07
surprised at Adam well
pronounced my
1:29:09
name this time I'm sending the
note to
1:29:12
you since I want you to hear you
1:29:13
butchering my last name it's a
feature
1:29:16
of the show Rudolph the Celie
1:29:18
I think that's right viselli
could be
1:29:22
Vesely but I think it's viselli
well it
1:29:24
could be Vesely if he's in
Russia I
1:29:26
would think it would be Vesely
Miceli
1:29:28
Boselli Vesely what do you care
this
1:29:31
time I listened na only from
episode 10
1:29:35
74 so I didn't catch if you ever
1:29:37
described the origin of your
surname as
1:29:40
a Czech or Slovak is Czech you
should
1:29:42
finally learn the correct
pronunciation
1:29:46
well you know this is debatable
and with
1:29:50
the name like viselli which
indicates a
1:29:52
Russian origin
1:29:53
the Russians pronounce Dvorak
Dvorak and
1:29:56
the and in much of
Czechoslovakia is
1:29:59
pronounced Dvorak and the
American
1:30:00
pronunciation is Dvorak period
and
1:30:05
ascend the progenitor of the
name if the
1:30:08
fame of the name for the
American
1:30:10
pronunciation is and Dvorak the
famous
1:30:13
actress from the 30s and that
would be
1:30:16
that so anyway
1:30:19
onward dad no no no nothing you
just
1:30:23
want those no nothing but he
came in
1:30:25
with three hundred fifty three
dollars
1:30:26
and 33 cents thank you thank
you very
1:30:28
much Rudolph now the next thing
we
1:30:30
talked about long notes so we
have sir
1:30:33
Morgan of
1:30:34
and see see who came in with I
say they
1:30:39
click on these bikes three or
three
1:30:40
dollars and three cents oh
that's
1:30:43
interesting we do have three of
these
1:30:44
because yeah it's three and
three
1:30:46
apologies in advance for
writing war and
1:30:49
peace please feel people please
feel
1:30:51
free to paraphrase
appropriately okay
1:30:57
this is actually kind of good
regarding
1:30:59
a Hong Kong we're on strike
here today
1:31:01
so I had she's in Hong Kong so
I have
1:31:04
some time to write up a small
1:31:05
explanation of the situation
the best of
1:31:06
my ability from someone who is
1:31:08
technically not a
constitutional lawyer
1:31:10
hope Hong Kong was handed back
to China
1:31:11
okay we have that we know about
most of
1:31:14
this under the promise of two
countries
1:31:16
one country two systems' the
agreement
1:31:18
was codified in the basic law
which is
1:31:20
often called our multi mini
constitution
1:31:23
okay I got to skip ahead here
only
1:31:25
candidates to run for chief
executive or
1:31:27
approved by the CCP and the
final vote
1:31:29
is actually done by an
electoral college
1:31:30
of parties no we don't need
this well
1:31:34
I'm a little interested in what
he says
1:31:36
up front
1:31:38
having been knighted on the
back of a
1:31:40
double credit donation
promotion I've
1:31:42
felt ever since that I was in
some way
1:31:45
relegated to the kids night
table I
1:31:47
guess this was back 1,000 we
had the the
1:31:51
BOGO yeah we had a well I don't
know how
1:31:55
he would feel that way like it
what he's
1:31:57
made up for it well yeah it was
what he
1:31:59
says is even though he he made
he was
1:32:03
knighted because because it was
with the
1:32:07
promotion were a double credit
he feels
1:32:10
like he was kind of at the kids
1:32:12
night-night stable like a
teenager at
1:32:15
Thanksgiving says I know the
round table
1:32:17
isn't so judgmental but it's
been eating
1:32:19
away at me so no longer can I
withstand
1:32:21
this dishonor with this
donation I will
1:32:24
move from Squire to a true
knight I
1:32:26
recommend other producers in my
1:32:28
situation do the same it's
there's been
1:32:31
a number of people that made
this
1:32:32
complaint and and there's been a
1:32:36
movement actually amongst some
of the
1:32:38
knights Tim to hound these guys
in
1:32:41
tonight man
1:32:46
Wow now the no agenda staff and
1:32:50
management consider it to be
full-on
1:32:52
night status but we understand
your
1:32:54
grievance comrade and as a
point of
1:32:56
personal privilege I have no
problem
1:33:00
we're going to talk about the
Hong Kong
1:33:02
situation later in the show yes
1:33:04
appreciate your note because
that is
1:33:06
that I did take some of that as
1:33:07
information for in the show
yeah get
1:33:09
some
1:33:10
we got Catherine Sutton sent us
some
1:33:11
stuff we have a lot of it for
me and I
1:33:13
want to give Sir Morgan of an
CC a big
1:33:15
Karla you've got karma associate
1:33:22
executive producer we got a
Chris check
1:33:24
horrible horrible and Cortese
Ontario
1:33:29
Canada
1:33:30
2 for 3 to 9 with this donation
of 3 3 3
1:33:35
3 3 Kelly we have to buy yeah
he's
1:33:38
bumped up to this is the rule
when you
1:33:40
have candy Navion dollars New
Zealand
1:33:43
Dollars or Australian dollars
also known
1:33:46
as wampum if you donate at the
executive
1:33:50
producer level you get that
even though
1:33:52
it translates to wow 333 33
keys canden
1:33:56
avian is only 2 4329 in let me
go
1:34:01
shopping real dollars
1:34:08
all right so he says give
herself a
1:34:10
sweet new show credit and the
process I
1:34:12
would like to be knighted sir
acid of
1:34:14
the Canon a v n'j Woods will
Beatles
1:34:18
reference there I think yeah
and I do
1:34:20
hope to find anime and ambrosia
waiting
1:34:24
for me at the roundtable
1:34:25
what is ambrosia ambrosia
that's a good
1:34:28
question
1:34:30
it's something I say look it up
thanks
1:34:34
bro oh yeah
1:34:37
having worked my way eastward
since my
1:34:39
previous donation this is my
first
1:34:41
donation of mine from my new
house but
1:34:42
hopefully from the last however
not all
1:34:46
is well here at the Maine at
the Manor
1:34:49
as my father's been in the
hospital for
1:34:51
over a week making things worse
in that
1:34:53
regard a lump around one of his
lungs
1:34:55
which isn't which can't be
biopsied
1:34:59
until he gets better because of
this I'd
1:35:01
like to request the fuck cancer
in hopes
1:35:04
that whatever it is inside him
turns out
1:35:05
to be benign I would also like
to
1:35:07
request jobs karma as I see
myself
1:35:09
re-entering the market before
year's end
1:35:11
thank you once again for
putting on the
1:35:14
best podcast in the universe
and here's
1:35:15
to many more seasons of the two
of you
1:35:19
protecting our amygdalas Chris
Hara
1:35:22
bhara
1:35:23
formerly of Pickering now of
Quartus
1:35:25
Ontario and he will be at the
night to
1:35:28
the roundtable later on
ambrosia not
1:35:31
only a heavy metal band from
the 80s but
1:35:33
also an American variety of
fruit salad
1:35:45
yes okay I gotta do was gonna
do his
1:35:49
things here jobs jobs and jobs
let's go
1:35:58
for job
1:36:00
[Music]
1:36:05
Michael arseny in Boston
Massachusetts
1:36:08
$200 in one cent donation on
behalf of
1:36:11
my of Robert Reichenberg to tip
to karma
1:36:15
scales toward recovery which
one means
1:36:18
I'm guessing a karma yeah we
got that
1:36:21
right here you've got karma and
now you
1:36:29
have Neeson Darrell at 200
bucks and she
1:36:32
didn't send a note here so I am
going to
1:36:34
do one of these fabulous
searches they
1:36:38
can do in Squirrel mail you
don't to
1:36:39
play the theme again no I'm not
that
1:36:41
you're logged in you should
have ample
1:36:43
time to go search for cent who
are Z Ali
1:36:47
I think so it's yes n o re L le
o and o
1:36:54
and when our n o r e ll e okay
got it do
1:37:02
a search what I mean I usually
do this
1:37:07
before the show I usually do
too I
1:37:09
usually do you light start as
you could
1:37:12
tell because I was still eating
1:37:13
breakfast yes you know one of
the by the
1:37:19
way there's a tip for people if
you many
1:37:24
systems and not all of them but
many
1:37:26
systems if you don't spell the
word
1:37:28
right the search won't work
this is a
1:37:31
high end tip do tell is this
the issue
1:37:35
with squirrel methane it's not
boolean
1:37:39
is just no reg X you can enter
in there
1:37:43
no no wild cards you can try
well
1:37:46
there's apparently no note he's
my baby
1:37:48
I don't have I have looked I
use Outlook
1:37:52
I have nothing nothing of use
outlook
1:37:55
any nice and Phoenix Arizona
200 bucks
1:37:58
would thank you give her a car
man we'll
1:38:00
of course you've got karma it
is always
1:38:06
a good idea
1:38:06
that you both John and myself
we'd
1:38:08
rather double up and have it
twice then
1:38:10
then miss something yeah and I
miss him
1:38:13
too I miss notes sometimes too
so if you
1:38:15
bow if you send it to both of
us even
1:38:17
though you can there is a field
on
1:38:19
PayPal where you can enter it
you just
1:38:20
have to keep your eyes open
it's not
1:38:22
always apparent depending on
what path
1:38:23
you choose right now but what
happens I
1:38:25
think if you hit the return key
I think
1:38:26
it sends it it's one of those I
think I
1:38:29
don't know
1:38:29
yeah there's it's there is an
interface
1:38:31
issue somewhere within that
yeah okay
1:38:34
when you want to thank to all
these
1:38:35
folks at 3 and 3 you have
helping
1:38:37
produce show 1162 my name is
Felix
1:38:44
Wilson and my daddy is a
douchebag but
1:38:47
he wasn't always a douchebag
life just
1:38:49
got in the way and now it makes
me sad
1:38:52
to say this daddy
1:38:54
you're a douchebag you can
easily cure
1:38:57
this in sir can you stop being a
1:39:00
douchebag go to the Warped or
old /na
1:39:03
and donate now no child
deserves a
1:39:06
douchebag parent
1:39:09
Dvorak org slash and a well now
that you
1:39:13
know that you may or may not
want to
1:39:15
join the Democrat Socialist of
America
1:39:17
profit formula is this we go
out we're
1:39:21
here people in the mouth
1:39:31
[Music]
1:39:37
and Thank You Felix answer
Chris yeah
1:39:44
offcut well I'm not completely
off topic
1:39:46
but there was a really funny our
1:39:49
interview with David Icke Oh a
new one
1:39:52
yeah that's pretty new it's
done that
1:39:54
called talk radio or
something's one of
1:39:57
the channels and it's a very
famous
1:39:58
interview whose name I can't
remember
1:39:59
but he was he gave let Ike talk
which is
1:40:02
instead of just making him look
silly or
1:40:05
saying stupid things about what
he was
1:40:06
had to say but I had this
unusual tale
1:40:12
of woe because he talks about
five G
1:40:14
pretty much with are the same
but pinyin
1:40:16
of things that we have and and
this is
1:40:20
his this a little long but it's
worth it
1:40:22
because of the punchline this
is five G
1:40:25
and trees we're talking about a
1:40:28
communications network you've
heard of a
1:40:30
3G 4G we're not on to 5g David
Icke the
1:40:35
alternative thinker on all of
these
1:40:36
things was giving his view on
that and
1:40:39
just to expand on that David
well a few
1:40:42
one a few weeks ago there were
hearings
1:40:44
on Capitol Hill in which
representatives
1:40:48
of the telecommunications
industry were
1:40:51
questioned there was a senator
senator
1:40:54
Blumenthal
1:40:54
who asked them openly how much
money
1:40:59
have you spent funding
independent
1:41:04
research into the effects of
the on the
1:41:10
body on health on psychology of
5g and
1:41:13
they sat there and had to admit
not a
1:41:17
single cent and this 5g is
being rolled
1:41:22
out so fast and it's it's not
the same
1:41:24
it's if people think and I
understand it
1:41:26
that they think it's just a
step on from
1:41:30
4G it actually operates in
another band
1:41:32
of frequency called millimeter
waves and
1:41:35
because millimeter waves do not
travel
1:41:39
very far instead of having like
big
1:41:42
transmitters transmitting this
stuff
1:41:44
over a long distance you're
going to
1:41:46
have like they are having
already as
1:41:48
they introduce it in America
1:41:50
little boxes on the lamppost
down the
1:41:54
street pumping this stuff out
and the
1:41:56
other thing is that this 5g
doesn't
1:42:01
travel well through solid
objects like
1:42:05
urban trees for instance are
the worst
1:42:07
nightmare of 5g which kind of
interests
1:42:11
me with this phenomenon that
I'm picking
1:42:15
up all around the place not
least in
1:42:17
Sheffield where thousands and
thousands
1:42:20
of urban mature trees are being
cut down
1:42:24
it caused a big big scandal in
in
1:42:28
Sheffield when they kept on
don't they
1:42:31
because they interfere with the
1:42:33
foundations of houses I you you
right
1:42:36
interest well my brother is
he's a bus
1:42:40
mechanic he goes he goes out he
repairs
1:42:43
buses on the side of the road
yeah so
1:42:44
he's constantly travelling all
the time
1:42:47
every day and he said to me
1:42:49
independently this these big
old trees
1:42:53
being cut down everywhere so
yeah
1:42:57
whether that's connected you
know I'm
1:43:00
open to that but the fact is 5g
would
1:43:05
not like mature urban trees oh
that's an
1:43:09
interesting take I never heard
this
1:43:12
before I mean we got the bees
is the
1:43:14
most recent thing that
apparently kills
1:43:16
bees yeah but you know I've the
number
1:43:18
of times I've seen the bee
story and was
1:43:21
wet back when 4G came in with
an in the
1:43:24
Netherlands I'm like okay and
it's just
1:43:26
completely nonsense articles
it's always
1:43:28
in the Netherlands usually
birds I've
1:43:31
got the birds to the bees but
the tree
1:43:36
thing is true it's true
1:43:38
that they're cutting here no I
don't
1:43:40
know they're not cutting them
down
1:43:41
around here because we haven't
got 5g
1:43:42
but but it's true that the
waves won't
1:43:45
penetrate a good tree sure no
way it
1:43:49
would just gonna but there's
somebody in
1:43:52
the chat room or not the chat
room but
1:43:53
in the comments so no it's not
about the
1:43:55
cutting the trees now for
penetration
1:43:57
because we can get the 5g
signals
1:43:59
through it's just that it'll be
1:44:01
noticeable
1:44:02
because the five g's killing
district
1:44:04
trees will be killed
1:44:07
well a couple notes about that
in the
1:44:11
United States it appears that
most
1:44:14
telcos are not going on the
1:44:17
millimeter-wave
1:44:18
they're going in the so there's
like a
1:44:21
longer wave this segment which
is I
1:44:25
think it really isn't the five
gigahertz
1:44:27
band which is closely equal to
what some
1:44:30
Wi-Fi is at home the higher
frequencies
1:44:33
I think those will be deployed
in the
1:44:35
cities that's where they make
the most
1:44:38
sense they don't make a lot of
sense for
1:44:40
for real urban areas so it's a
1:44:44
difference I guess what I'm
saying it's
1:44:45
a different situation in each
different
1:44:46
country and I'm not sure what
we're
1:44:50
really going to get in the
United States
1:44:51
there was a presentation that
was not
1:44:54
worth clipping because it was a
boring
1:44:56
scientist with five minutes of
slides
1:44:58
I'll put it in the show notes
but he
1:45:00
says it's you know you're not
really
1:45:02
gonna see the damage because
the damage
1:45:04
is at a deeper level it's to
your DNA
1:45:06
which of course is also
something we've
1:45:08
heard about the backscatter
1:45:11
millimeter-wave body scanners
at the
1:45:15
airports so I don't you know at
this
1:45:18
point I don't know I don't know
who
1:45:19
speaking the truth it's a I
don't I
1:45:23
don't like any of it I only
have one
1:45:26
Wi-Fi point in the entire house
that's
1:45:28
it no other gimmicks got
gadgets gizmos
1:45:31
no no more lights
1:45:33
none of this stuff I got rid of
all of
1:45:36
it and just to keep in vein
with the OTG
1:45:41
you know I've actually been Ted
I told
1:45:43
you I was testing with the
iPhone 5
1:45:45
cloaked and I'm very happy with
the
1:45:48
results of this now of course I
have no
1:45:51
apps I have only the the native
apps
1:45:55
that get backup
1:45:57
all right cuz I can only can
remember a
1:46:00
little bit of this but you
ended up with
1:46:01
an iPhone 5 which a lot of
people think
1:46:04
is the best iPhone ever made
you must
1:46:07
almost say the for some will
say the se
1:46:09
but for the iPhone 4 it only
does 3g and
1:46:15
I don't want
1:46:16
five G but LTE 4G is kind of
required if
1:46:20
you want to do anything and the
whole
1:46:22
idea is to make this phone very
1:46:24
difficult and slow to you so
you won't
1:46:27
use it because human nature is
oh I'll
1:46:29
just I got my phone right here
I'll just
1:46:30
look it up real quick so you
don't want
1:46:32
that but in an emergency yes
you do want
1:46:35
to be able to either use your
phone as a
1:46:38
hotspot which the iPhone 5 will
do or
1:46:42
you want to have some kind of
bandwidth
1:46:44
and processor speed that will
allow you
1:46:47
to use the built-in web browser
now none
1:46:49
of this works unless you get
what I call
1:46:52
the piehole for the iPhone
which is the
1:46:55
security Pro app and there's
multiple
1:46:57
ways to do it this is the way I
chose to
1:46:59
do it and it you could set it
up so it
1:47:01
doesn't let anything through or
anything
1:47:03
out so the only I mean and you
can watch
1:47:07
it you can see what it's
blocking you
1:47:08
can see what the DNS requests
are and
1:47:10
that's why I call it cloaked
and I'm
1:47:12
very happy it's not pinging
anything
1:47:14
it's not getting out of the
machine no
1:47:16
no other there's no external
apps to
1:47:19
Apple that are on it so I have
email I
1:47:21
have text messaging I have a
phone and
1:47:24
also this is the lowest end
model
1:47:27
available that will pair with
my hearing
1:47:30
aids so that was a big
consideration and
1:47:33
because it's not pinging in or
out the
1:47:36
battery lasts for five days
yeah I was
1:47:39
gonna ask that
1:47:39
that's must be extended by
quite a bit
1:47:43
those are big batteries in
there and
1:47:45
they don't last a day normally
here's
1:47:47
the problem though if you do
use the
1:47:49
phone for web browser it's
doing double
1:47:53
duty because it's also running
this
1:47:55
relatively heavy process of
stopping you
1:47:58
know it's duplicating DNS it's
so it's
1:48:01
it's determining what needs to
be
1:48:03
blocked or not so if you use it
it's
1:48:05
going to deplete them faster
than you'd
1:48:06
expect so you're not gonna use
it that's
1:48:09
the whole point text messaging
and
1:48:11
that's all I really use it for
is text
1:48:12
messaging maybe just to check
an email
1:48:15
from time to time and five days
it's
1:48:18
fantastic I feel very safe at
least from
1:48:23
Silicon Valley snooping as we
know
1:48:26
that's the way that the
government is
1:48:28
now looking at
1:48:30
you especially with these red
flag laws
1:48:34
they just buy it from the from
the
1:48:36
social media companies that buy
it from
1:48:38
Google they buy it from the
data brokers
1:48:40
they don't need to go spying
you're
1:48:41
giving it up willfully so I'm
gonna
1:48:44
write this up the iPhone the
cloaked
1:48:46
iPhone 5 which is how I like to
call it
1:48:48
I still I still love the Nokia
e75 phone
1:48:56
5 maybe the way to go about a
hundred
1:48:58
and fifty bucks on Amazon so
it's a
1:49:00
comparable price
1:49:02
you're really not being of
course you
1:49:04
have to turn off location and
you know
1:49:06
don't install Google Maps just
in case
1:49:08
you got no all of that has to
go in fact
1:49:10
no Google site will work on my
machine
1:49:13
because I blocked them all same
for
1:49:15
Facebook Twitter all of those
all those
1:49:17
those you know little widgets
and pixels
1:49:21
all that's blocked I've done
kind of the
1:49:24
same thing with my old Google
phone and
1:49:27
I get my battery life's about I
think
1:49:28
about two weeks that's pretty
good
1:49:33
especially us because it's all
all the
1:49:35
time now I have some bad news
in the OTG
1:49:37
Department OTG stands for off
the grid
1:49:40
is that we're both and I really
learned
1:49:44
it from you
1:49:45
we're both big fans of over the
air
1:49:48
digital television which we
have here in
1:49:51
the United States yes every
modern
1:49:54
television does it you get a
like a $9
1:49:58
antenna it sticks right behind
your ear
1:50:01
set on the wall and you can
receive a
1:50:04
lot of Spanish and Asian that
channels
1:50:07
but you're gonna feel a lot of
1:50:09
Vietnamese channel yes yeah you
can you
1:50:12
can get you can get your you
know your
1:50:15
your main network channels and
it's it's
1:50:19
a good it's free it's just over
the air
1:50:20
comes in for free so you can
have maybe
1:50:22
one subscription service you
want and
1:50:25
for all the other stuff you can
it's
1:50:27
just it's out there and it's
it's
1:50:29
digital it's high-definition
and it's
1:50:32
also a non track system it's
one way
1:50:35
it's broadcast so no one knows
what
1:50:37
you're watching I shouldn't
mention the
1:50:38
bandwidth is also higher than
you get
1:50:40
from cable which is compressed
this is
1:50:41
uncommon
1:50:42
rest with full stereo
uncompressed video
1:50:45
is it's a better picture well
they're
1:50:48
gonna fuck it all up well of
course and
1:50:51
it's called ATSC 3.0
1:50:56
here is a Steve melter I don't
know who
1:50:59
he is but he did a pretty decent
1:51:00
overview from the most recent
National
1:51:03
Association of Broadcasters
meeting in
1:51:04
Las Vegas on the new digital
standard
1:51:07
which will not only replace
this fine
1:51:10
non-trackable system that we're
using
1:51:12
but it will be built into your
phone
1:51:14
it's not just about a prettier
picture
1:51:16
but it's about interactivity
what can
1:51:18
you do with your TV set what
sort of
1:51:20
experience can you have that
will
1:51:22
compete with screaming or
over-the-top
1:51:25
capabilities imagine your TV
combined
1:51:28
with a set of early powerful
apps all
1:51:30
happening on the same screen
and using
1:51:32
the exact same remote very cool
so let's
1:51:34
say you turn into your favorite
show and
1:51:36
it started 20 minutes ago you
could
1:51:38
start over again and watch that
show
1:51:40
from the top instead of just
basic video
1:51:42
on demand like we're used to
right now
1:51:44
you could access a video on
demand the
1:51:46
library for streaming including
current
1:51:49
events or special programming
maybe the
1:51:51
Super Bowl of the Grammys one
of the
1:51:53
ATSC credo features is Dolby
dialogue
1:51:56
enhanced and very cool you can
actually
1:51:58
change the level of the
dialogue without
1:52:00
affecting the background music
or the
1:52:02
background noise by the way
that's a
1:52:04
smart feature that's what kids
need
1:52:06
maybe you're at a party you're
at a bar
1:52:07
or you've got a bunch of kids
playing
1:52:08
nearby you can't quite hear the
dialogue
1:52:10
you just turn up the dialogue
and it
1:52:12
doesn't affect anything else
even the
1:52:14
programming guide is totally
different
1:52:16
you don't just get what is
coming up in
1:52:18
the future you can also see what
1:52:20
happened in the past and you
can catch
1:52:21
up with shows that you missed
but we can
1:52:22
do all this over streaming
today but
1:52:24
imagine being able to do it over
1:52:26
broadcast network while you're
watching
1:52:28
regular television let's say
you're
1:52:31
watching a game
1:52:32
you want to know more about the
stats in
1:52:33
the game of the players you
just press a
1:52:35
button pops up in real-time
same thing
1:52:37
if you're watching a television
shows
1:52:39
that you want to know about the
actor or
1:52:41
the director of the
cinematographer you
1:52:42
just pull it right up and
1:52:43
picture-in-picture on live
broadcast at
1:52:46
live television one of my
favorite
1:52:47
things multiple viewer angles
from the
1:52:49
camera let's say you're
watching that
1:52:51
game you can command where you
see that
1:52:53
broadcast coming from in live
TV also
1:52:56
great for reality TV
programming and
1:52:58
then you have coupons and
promotions
1:52:59
that can be sent to you and your
1:53:01
favorite shows linked in to your
1:53:03
favorite content so much cool
stuff told
1:53:05
you they fucked it up this is
you're not
1:53:08
doing any of that well let me
tell you
1:53:10
why they will because this is a
1:53:12
desperate of a final attempt to
make
1:53:14
these frequencies usable before
they
1:53:16
have to somehow you know be
eliminated
1:53:19
or whatever it is because this
is about
1:53:23
interactive ads about targeted
ads I
1:53:27
won't bore you with all the
technical
1:53:28
details but really you're
getting stuff
1:53:31
in real time and they're adding
all
1:53:33
kinds of gizmos
1:53:35
you know they've changed the
compression
1:53:37
algorithm so I'm sure you're
also gonna
1:53:39
lose some of the quality
doesn't really
1:53:41
speak about that but that's how
you'll
1:53:42
be able to separate out the
middle
1:53:44
channel the center channel to
enhance
1:53:47
dialogue which would be a
feature these
1:53:49
days on anything that's how
you'll get
1:53:51
multiple camera angles that's
all live
1:53:53
events and then they will
essentially
1:53:56
use the IP portion of your
phone to
1:54:00
route packets if you're doing
something
1:54:01
on demand or if you're catching
up so
1:54:04
it's really only about a target
1:54:06
addressable advertising that's
and he
1:54:09
doesn't mentioned this of
course because
1:54:11
this is for the consumer this
video but
1:54:14
they're doing it it is
definitely
1:54:15
happening it's too expensive
they're not
1:54:17
doing it well there's a lot of
money and
1:54:21
the big companies who say
they're doing
1:54:23
it so I think they're doing it
they
1:54:25
everyone talks at big
everyone's doing
1:54:27
it they always say they're
doing it this
1:54:28
reminds me of the Ford you know
and they
1:54:31
decided that they're gonna tell
everyone
1:54:33
they're gonna do a six door
full Ford
1:54:36
Explorer or whatever this giant
thing
1:54:38
was and they show pictures of
it and
1:54:41
everybody got all over they're
doing it
1:54:43
so we have to do it so
everybody like
1:54:44
started
1:54:45
these six door suvs no none of
them came
1:54:50
to market but you know and it
was all
1:54:51
because four was full of crap
they
1:54:53
weren't gonna do it in the
first place
1:54:54
and I think this is the same
thing
1:54:55
they're not it's too expensive
okay
1:54:58
we'll see I can wait I mean I
did this
1:55:00
I've heard this the same thing
about all
1:55:03
this interactive advertising
and all I
1:55:05
have to do it
1:55:05
you're watching friends and
during the
1:55:07
Friends era
1:55:08
you're watching friends and you
want to
1:55:10
know what Rachel but they're
actually
1:55:12
doing that today I mean in vid
is doing
1:55:17
it today they are doing
addressable
1:55:19
set-top boxes this is happening
yeah a
1:55:21
set-top box version of it but
1:55:23
over-the-air is not gonna be
affected by
1:55:26
this because it's not
affordable I got
1:55:28
enough problems with the what's
changing
1:55:31
the digital because some Ament
in fact
1:55:34
sinclair broadcasting the
cheapest group
1:55:37
amongst them all and they own
most of
1:55:39
the stations in the country
they were
1:55:41
didn't want to do that they
made a big
1:55:44
fuss and push it up pushed it
off as
1:55:46
long as they could before we
went
1:55:47
digital which probably was a
good thing
1:55:49
because that early days of HDTV
was an
1:55:52
analog system which would have
really
1:55:54
broken the backs of everybody
all of
1:55:57
this tracking is causing
changes in the
1:56:01
consumer marketplace we've had
1:56:03
alternative search sites for a
long time
1:56:05
I use quant qwan T quant comm
the seer X
1:56:12
which I liked a lot but I find
there's
1:56:15
some security issues if you're
not
1:56:16
hosting it yourself and you're
still
1:56:18
very trackable and now the
alternative
1:56:21
sites are coming out and
attacking each
1:56:23
other of being of tracking and
targeted
1:56:27
advertising and perhaps even
being in
1:56:30
bid with the big shill this is
the CEO
1:56:32
of the search company yippee
Yankee
1:56:36
India Papa Papa India echoed
yippee comm
1:56:40
and he's slagging off
DuckDuckGo if
1:56:43
Google will bias censorship and
privacy
1:56:45
concerns some Internet users
are looking
1:56:48
to alternative search engine
options
1:56:50
like DuckDuckGo one American
you spoke
1:56:53
with Rich Granville CEO of
private
1:56:55
search engine company yippee
1:56:57
and Ville says even search
engines that
1:56:59
claim to provide privacy are
still
1:57:02
sharing your data the search is
the most
1:57:04
informative and the most
influencing
1:57:06
media there is in the world
1:57:08
Google controls just about 90%
of all
1:57:11
searches duck-duck-goose
1:57:12
talks about their privacy right
they're
1:57:14
saying that we're a private
search
1:57:15
engine well I mean if anybody
has six
1:57:17
great developer tools they can
go into
1:57:19
DuckDuckGo and they will see
tracking
1:57:21
cookies in DuckDuckGo tracking
cookies
1:57:24
are bits of data a website
sends to a
1:57:26
computer through search engines
like
1:57:28
Google or chrome that DuckDuckGo
1:57:31
advertises its search engine
does not
1:57:33
track users is to granville
highly
1:57:36
suspect and they offer targeted
1:57:38
advertising through the search
engine so
1:57:40
if you search for plumber in
your
1:57:41
particular city you're gonna
get an ad
1:57:42
for plumbers in your particular
city
1:57:44
it's called geo-located
advertising so
1:57:46
if you are a private search
engine you
1:57:49
cannot give have advertising
that's geo
1:57:51
targeted you can only provide
1:57:53
advertising that is general a
New York
1:57:55
Times article bolsters duck
duck goes
1:57:57
claim that it does not track
behavior
1:58:00
like other search companies
writes The
1:58:02
Times
1:58:02
DuckDuckGo displays ads at the
top of
1:58:05
each search page but unlike
others it
1:58:07
does not track the online
behavior of
1:58:10
its users to personalize the ads
1:58:12
Grandville says this is an odd
claim but
1:58:15
what I can tell you is is that
they have
1:58:16
targeted advertising and they
have two
1:58:18
cookies on their site somebody's
1:58:20
tracking you DuckDuckGo may not
be
1:58:22
tracking you on their servers
which I
1:58:23
find hard to believe but
certainly
1:58:25
they're handed an information
off to two
1:58:27
other cookies and who knows
what those
1:58:29
companies doing which I suspect
is
1:58:31
Google and who Google is
selling that
1:58:32
information to on down the line
1:58:34
DuckDuckGo has not responded -
Oh a ends
1:58:36
requests for comments as of this
1:58:39
broadcast I also have not
verified these
1:58:42
cookies by funded more
interesting that
1:58:44
there's now competition in the
1:58:46
alternative search marketplace
and this
1:58:48
to me actually sounded more
like a
1:58:49
native ad I felt it was it was
more it
1:58:54
was more advertorial than
editorial or
1:58:57
investigative and it's on one
American
1:58:59
news they must have to make
their money
1:59:00
somehow I don't think many
people watch
1:59:04
you know Trump recently gave
them a big
1:59:06
plug oh really well then they
up the
1:59:08
rates or something they gave
them a
1:59:10
special so I'm not too sure
about the
1:59:12
claims of VP ups I never heard
of the
1:59:16
EPI well now you do and the
search is
1:59:18
pretty good actually now they
have a
1:59:21
consumer facing search but
they're
1:59:23
really a search company they
sell their
1:59:25
search capabilities to two
companies I
1:59:31
haven't checked out any of the
image
1:59:32
results or anything like that
but it's
1:59:34
fast and it doesn't look into
it but on
1:59:36
the native ad front and I just
wanted to
1:59:38
share this last one but one of
our
1:59:41
producer sent me a note and
said hey you
1:59:42
know you could build an OTG
phone really
1:59:45
cheap and and then you could
use it as a
1:59:49
premium just look at the Wall
Street
1:59:50
Journal they're selling it a
Wall Street
1:59:53
Journal $70 smartphone so I'm
like
1:59:56
really no I go over to the page
it's a
2:00:00
five-minute video but this is
fantastic
2:00:03
what could they possibly say
about this
2:00:05
this is what a revolution
introducing
2:00:07
the Wall Street Journal
smartphone one
2:00:10
we don't have a splashy
celebrity ad
2:00:12
campaign but we made this phone
and all
2:00:15
it took was a short journey
over the
2:00:17
border to a Chinese city just
north of
2:00:20
us here in Hong Kong the city of
2:00:23
Shenzhen has become a mecca for
2:00:25
electronic pots and talent
leading to
2:00:28
new Chinese brands coming up
from
2:00:29
nowhere and grabbing market
share from
2:00:32
Samsung and thanks the po river
deltas
2:00:36
low-cost ready to go supply
chain
2:00:38
building a custom smartphone is
not that
2:00:41
difficult that's exactly how we
made the
2:00:44
WSJ one which is only $70
2:00:47
Android has a touchscreen
display front
2:00:51
and back camera fingerprint
reader and
2:00:53
even takes two SIM cards and an
SD card
2:00:57
there are thousands of
factories in
2:00:59
China's pella River Delta
region that
2:01:01
bill product I could play it
for the
2:01:03
next five minutes it's a it's
an ad for
2:01:05
Shin gens ready to go supply
chain yeah
2:01:09
of course
2:01:10
it even tricked one of our
producers
2:01:13
into thinking this was some
kind of this
2:01:14
is a 70 cent smartphone by the
way this
2:01:20
is really but there was no ad
there's no
2:01:22
didn't say advertisement it was
just
2:01:24
right there on a stop do it
everyone
2:01:27
stop doing that you don't have
to say
2:01:29
it's an ad anymore if you
donated ad say
2:01:31
anything I thought you had to
at least
2:01:34
disclose who would make this the
2:01:37
governmental advertising
oversight
2:01:39
emergency borders nobody
nobody's
2:01:47
noticing sometimes they slip it
in
2:01:49
somewhere there's some little
mention
2:01:51
there's a little it's like when
you do
2:01:53
an April Fool's gag somewhere
in there
2:01:56
you should have the alert bus
leuf
2:01:59
spokeswoman right or you should
have it
2:02:03
something some code date for one
2:02:05
whatever the year eight eight
three
2:02:08
eight eight yeah hail Hydra
it's like no
2:02:14
and there again there at the
point now
2:02:16
where they're not gonna do this
because
2:02:18
many outlets that you think
that were
2:02:21
once legitimate news gathering
2:02:23
organizations or pretty much
just native
2:02:26
ad organizations it's the way
to go if
2:02:29
you're a publisher why should
you even
2:02:30
be paying people why even have a
2:02:32
reporter when you could just
buy some
2:02:34
native ads and put them up and
I that
2:02:36
but instead of paying somebody
they're
2:02:38
paying you by the way I made a
mistake
2:02:45
yippy is why I ppy dot com and
one
2:02:48
additional caveat I forgot to
mention it
2:02:51
is powered by IBM Watson so now
I know
2:02:55
no now I know it was an ad slow
could be
2:02:59
slow and wrong but if
2:03:00
typing no agenda we're the
first page
2:03:02
and that's all I care about
2:03:04
okay what that's a plus it's
the most
2:03:05
important thing I'm running a
little
2:03:09
late but in other words this is
IBM
2:03:12
slipping into the game yo yeah
I think
2:03:14
that's what it is
2:03:14
huh yeah well your IBM used to
have I
2:03:18
remember about when I visited
their
2:03:21
facilities in San Jose
2:03:22
they had a proprietary search
engine
2:03:25
during the early era of Google
that was
2:03:28
better than Google it was some
it was
2:03:30
only used in-house and I kept
asking us
2:03:32
who want you guys
commercializes name
2:03:34
were you talking about that I
remember
2:03:36
this story did some how did
they not
2:03:39
like fold that into Lotus Notes
or some
2:03:41
stupid stuff no they never did
it never
2:03:43
got out anywhere as far as I
can tell
2:03:45
but it was really a good ad a
good bunch
2:03:47
of I guess had a lot of worms
out there
2:03:49
digging around putting stuff
together
2:03:51
and they had a server farm and
but it
2:03:53
only was used internally I
don't know
2:03:54
that it ever got into the wild
maybe
2:03:56
this isn't it maybe this is it
well you
2:03:58
know what we should do we
should do the
2:04:01
ultimate Jhansi Dvorak search
engine
2:04:05
test we go to hippie calm and
we want to
2:04:09
say what is the best weed
whacker weed
2:04:15
whacker that is the test and
I'm going
2:04:17
to so powered by IBM Watson or
their
2:04:19
public ticker symbol yippee why
I Pio
2:04:23
didn't know though jeez all
right we hit
2:04:26
it and what do we get search
okay see
2:04:30
the first link best weed
whackers of
2:04:32
2019 best string trimmers and
it's all
2:04:38
reviews 2018 consumer search so
it's not
2:04:42
giving me answers per se what
is the
2:04:44
best badr battery-operated weed
trimmer
2:04:47
you know what there's not that
it
2:04:49
doesn't seem like there's any
ads in
2:04:50
here which maybe that's good
well
2:04:54
there's something going on
something
2:04:57
called cluster they have
cluster on this
2:05:00
is interesting anyway no
everyone should
2:05:03
play with this for a while and
report
2:05:05
back yes we have a lot of dudes
named
2:05:06
herb and that are really good
at this
2:05:08
stuff so let's stay in China
for one
2:05:09
second even though we're
running a
2:05:10
little behind I think we should
do Hong
2:05:12
Kong yeah I have a few Hong
2:05:15
calling clips and I first I
want to just
2:05:17
discuss Hong Kong for a second
because
2:05:19
we got a lot of there I bet I
looked at
2:05:20
a lot there is a lot of stuff
out there
2:05:23
and it seems it did there's two
theories
2:05:25
and I'm subscribing to one of
them the
2:05:29
two theories are one that the
PRC is
2:05:30
gonna come in and kick ass and
they get
2:05:32
different guys discuss it I
have a clip
2:05:34
that discusses it or the
People's
2:05:37
Liberation Army the PLA and the
other
2:05:40
one is and this one's the one
that I'm
2:05:42
just subscribing to which is
that the
2:05:46
Chinese have got a big event
coming up
2:05:49
on October 1st that they wish
is the
2:05:51
anniversary of 75th anniversary
of the
2:05:53
People's Republic or 75th 75th
I think
2:05:58
and they can't you know mess it
up by
2:06:04
clamping down on it under Hong
Kongers
2:06:07
at least until after that but
one thesis
2:06:10
has it that they're just gonna
let it go
2:06:13
and they're gonna maybe
firelamb and
2:06:16
then pull back this other thing
and then
2:06:18
just abandon Hong Kong and just
leave it
2:06:20
to its own devices and then
kind of very
2:06:22
slowly because the Chinese
thinking long
2:06:25
term like thousands of years
2:06:26
pull the banks and put them in
Shanghai
2:06:29
because they want to make Shane
high the
2:06:30
world's banking center would
right now
2:06:32
the honk you know or one of the
world
2:06:34
banking centers to compete with
London
2:06:36
and other places and and Zurich
I guess
2:06:39
and and they're they're gonna
they wants
2:06:42
Shanghai in New York and
Shanghai they
2:06:45
want Shanghai to be the place
where
2:06:47
they're gonna start pulling the
Bank of
2:06:48
China and these other places to
move
2:06:50
into Shanghai
2:06:51
very slowly however long it
takes and
2:06:53
just kind of abandon Hong Kong
and leave
2:06:56
it until it 2047 when they
could just
2:06:58
walk would you know just open
the
2:07:00
borders and all into place and
I'm
2:07:03
inclined to think that this may
be it
2:07:05
because a lot of the bitching
and
2:07:07
moaning going on in China has
less to do
2:07:09
with it the extradition bill
than it
2:07:12
does the cost of housing yeah
exactly
2:07:14
then people can't pay the rents
at this
2:07:16
just before we get to your
clips have a
2:07:18
short one this is from CCC TV
and it is
2:07:23
about the accusations that the
United
2:07:26
States of America
2:07:28
is behind or at least an agent
2:07:30
provocateur in these in these
2:07:35
demonstrations in Hong Kong and
I have
2:07:39
see this is I don't know this
guy I mean
2:07:43
I'm always wary when someone
says I'm
2:07:45
from an institute so this is a
Hudson
2:07:47
Institute you know with you
know what
2:07:48
they stand for they're
obviously a
2:07:50
talking point Factory thing the
other
2:07:56
day they're there legit legit
what well
2:08:00
I that's well this guy does say
2:08:04
something very interesting when
the
2:08:05
accusation is queried in his
direction
2:08:08
Chinese pro-democracy
demonstrators have
2:08:10
taken to the streets in Hong
Kong and
2:08:12
the Chinese media state-owned
media has
2:08:15
said that it's all above the
Americans
2:08:17
Johnny is now to make some
sense of this
2:08:19
is dr. Michael Pillsbury senior
fellow
2:08:22
of the Hudson Institute and
former
2:08:23
Reagan administration official
thanks
2:08:25
for joining us so what do you
think it's
2:08:26
all the Americans fault it's
not all our
2:08:28
fault but we're partially
involved we
2:08:30
have a large consulate there
that's in
2:08:31
charge with taking care of a
Hong Kong
2:08:33
Policy Act passed by Congress
to ensure
2:08:35
democracy in Hong Kong we also
have
2:08:37
funded millions of dollars of
programs
2:08:40
through the National Endowment
for
2:08:42
democracy to help democracy in
Hong Kong
2:08:44
so in that sense the Chinese
accusation
2:08:46
is not totally false I liked
and it is
2:08:51
the National Endowment for the
Arts and
2:08:52
that's the one man that's that's
2:08:54
National Endowment for
democracy a
2:08:57
democracy I'm sorry it's a big
funder of
2:08:59
all kinds of shenanigans invite
looked
2:09:02
at this and I thought I've
looked at
2:09:04
this a number of times in the
way I see
2:09:06
I've looked at their grant
system I
2:09:07
think we can get money from
them you and
2:09:09
I no agenda show this doesn't
sound like
2:09:14
a good idea before you know you
get it a
2:09:18
knock at the door it's like I
want to
2:09:20
make sure you're a talking the
right way
2:09:22
for this grant you've received
no buy
2:09:26
veto I'm gonna look into it now
there's
2:09:31
one other thing that maybe I
don't know
2:09:34
if different jumping ahead or
not but
2:09:36
China has some real economic
financial
2:09:39
issues I was reading in the New
York
2:09:41
there's a approximately 200
billion
2:09:44
dollars of IOU circling in the
system
2:09:46
and if they actually are a
piece of
2:09:48
paper with I owe you on it and
now
2:09:50
that's become tradable by
itself so do
2:09:54
the trading these IOUs at a
lower price
2:09:57
than face value based upon that
them
2:09:59
thinking a the company can pay
that debt
2:10:03
or not we had a deflation of the
2:10:08
currency which is a an
interesting move
2:10:12
it's a it's a move you at a
certain
2:10:13
point need to make if you have
problems
2:10:16
in the in the economy and this
has been
2:10:18
such a huge overproduction
2:10:20
there's warehouses full of crap
that
2:10:22
that we don't want to buy the
Chinese
2:10:24
ghost cities even Chinese
middle class
2:10:26
can't afford it right now
people are
2:10:29
being laid off left and right
this may
2:10:32
be an additional pressure
tactic by us
2:10:35
and and I just want to add one
more
2:10:37
thing we laughed about Clinton
Hillary
2:10:40
Clinton's
2:10:41
techno experts in the State
Department
2:10:43
I'm pretty sure when it comes
to BOTS
2:10:45
and trolls we're doing most of
the work
2:10:47
here in America course we're
that we're
2:10:50
number one always foam finger
number one
2:10:53
so next time someone talks you
about
2:10:55
Russian BOTS who are you kidding
2:10:57
it's a state-sponsored battery
and it's
2:11:01
us we're good so what do you
think about
2:11:03
that part of it because China
could
2:11:06
really roll into a recession if
they're
2:11:10
not already in one further into
a deep
2:11:13
present they're really good at
2:11:15
Liza Goering the number lying
really
2:11:19
good at lying and they've done
a pretty
2:11:22
good job of supporting their
economy
2:11:24
with a technique I think it's
quite AI
2:11:29
because of the lack of news
coverage did
2:11:33
not draw attention to this
especially
2:11:35
with the American public and
Europe yeah
2:11:38
that makes me suspicious now
we've got
2:11:40
our people behind this you know
you guys
2:11:43
don't want to really write
about this
2:11:44
right now and by the way when
we're
2:11:48
ready we've got a first-class
ticket for
2:11:50
you to go to Hong Kong and
report on
2:11:53
about white supremacy why can't
I take
2:11:55
you over and let's go to Jen
Jen that's
2:11:59
the report on what's going on
there
2:12:00
because that's your ready to
2:12:02
ready-to-wear pipeline whatever
is ready
2:12:06
to go supply chain
2:12:07
yeah don't focus too much on
all the
2:12:09
other stuff now here's the Hong
Kong
2:12:11
underlying prop problem click
clip and
2:12:14
where I got these two clips was
from
2:12:16
CNBC which I realize they're
the guys of
2:12:20
you know this is the investment
2:12:21
community CNBC has a very small
audience
2:12:24
of investors that listen to
this show
2:12:26
religiously or religious to all
the
2:12:28
shows and they would be the
guys who
2:12:29
bring some Hong Kong guy in to
talk
2:12:31
about the numbers sure what the
hell so
2:12:33
here we go here's Hong Kong
underlying
2:12:35
problems which is what
reiterates what
2:12:37
we had on the last show David
it's
2:12:39
interesting what you're saying
I mean
2:12:40
drawing parallels the
dissatisfaction of
2:12:43
these protesters with other
movements
2:12:45
we've seen around the world I
think of
2:12:46
the yellow vest protests in
Paris as
2:12:48
well it seems you're saying
what started
2:12:50
out as a movement against the
2:12:51
extradition bill and
frustration perhaps
2:12:53
with Beijing's control over the
city is
2:12:55
really about dissatisfaction in
general
2:12:58
with the quality of living in
Hong Kong
2:12:59
so if that's the case how does
the
2:13:02
government respond to this
because
2:13:04
you're talking about Carol Ann
being in
2:13:06
a bunker but it's one thing if
you have
2:13:08
to solve dissatisfaction with
the bill
2:13:09
it's a whole nother thing if
you're
2:13:11
talking about dissatisfaction
with
2:13:12
economic conditions and with
very deep
2:13:16
roots I mean there are a lot
innocently
2:13:19
from outside Hong Kong will
believe this
2:13:21
is some sort of recent
phenomenon if you
2:13:23
go back to 2003 and the
demonstrations
2:13:26
very large demonstrations
against the
2:13:28
the treason legislation article
23 and
2:13:33
then go forward to 2014 and the
Occupy
2:13:36
movement this is a discontent
that has
2:13:41
extremely deep roots and the
first
2:13:43
source of anxiety or
disappointment for
2:13:46
me is that in spite of 15 years
of clear
2:13:49
evidence of what's going on the
2:13:51
administration clearly hasn't
gone to
2:13:53
the roots to understand the
heart of the
2:13:56
problem
2:13:57
this is a community but
suffered quite
2:14:02
severe stagnation incomes have
not risen
2:14:06
household circumstances have not
2:14:08
improved over a 30-year period
in that
2:14:10
same time because of the post
2008
2:14:14
qualitative easing zero-interest
2:14:17
environment the holders of
assets ie
2:14:21
profit properties and stocks
remember
2:14:25
neither of those attacks tin in
Hong
2:14:27
Kong owners of those assets
have moved
2:14:30
forward including people like
me who
2:14:32
owned a home we've been in you
immunized
2:14:36
from this but those that don't
have a
2:14:38
home and don't have assets have
seen
2:14:41
their income stagnate and all
assets
2:14:43
disappear over the horizon
mm-hmm yeah
2:14:47
kind of sucks it's kind of
happening
2:14:51
here too in some funny way yeah
so you
2:14:55
got you know they don't have
just a jet
2:14:58
there's a lot of people in Hong
Kong
2:14:59
Millions and there they got
screwed and
2:15:02
they're taking to the streets
under any
2:15:04
excuse they can find and they've
2:15:06
developed all these great
techniques to
2:15:08
battle the police that you know
are
2:15:10
attacking them with umbrellas
and they
2:15:13
got this this methodology when
they have
2:15:15
a gas bomb that comes their way
they put
2:15:17
a cone over it and then throw
water in
2:15:20
the top of the cone and then
stuff a rag
2:15:21
in the top they're using laser
pointers
2:15:24
to thwart facial recognition
you can
2:15:29
learn a lot and when they're
done they
2:15:32
clean up the street now I think
that's
2:15:36
fantastic
2:15:37
now here's the one that this is
a new
2:15:40
idea I never thought of this
but this is
2:15:41
just another guy is a different
guy
2:15:43
thinks that this might be going
on this
2:15:45
is the other could the Hong
Kong fake
2:15:47
police clip message that if the
knocking
2:15:51
situation here would
deteriorate they
2:15:53
would consider using police or
military
2:15:56
forces according to my
information
2:15:59
shipping has still not yet made
up his
2:16:02
mind whether to use the six
million
2:16:04
strong People's Liberation Army
Garrison
2:16:07
in Hong Kong
2:16:08
he is now focusing on the
October 1st
2:16:11
celebration of the 70th
birthday of the
2:16:14
people's work of China so
before October
2:16:17
1st is highly unlikely that
troupe may
2:16:19
be mobilized however there's a
2:16:22
possibility that the law
enforcement
2:16:26
officials in Shenzhen and
neighboring
2:16:29
areas they might be saying in
Hong Kong
2:16:31
they will put on Hong Kong
police
2:16:33
uniform and join the Hong Kong
police
2:16:36
people in a joint effort to put
down the
2:16:40
unrest and restore law and
order this
2:16:43
might have happened already
even though
2:16:44
we don't have a highly advanced
evidence
2:16:47
to this effect great idea yeah
you know
2:16:53
what this is this is finally a
solution
2:16:55
to the homeless problem in
America put
2:16:59
them in cop uniforms somehow it
feels
2:17:03
right I don't know it could
work for us
2:17:06
yeah wow that's nice thought of
that but
2:17:10
so this is continuing and we'll
cover it
2:17:13
nobody else seems to want to
cover it
2:17:14
and for whatever reason it's
possible
2:17:18
that it's it's a it's a
something our
2:17:23
intelligence groups are behind
in some
2:17:26
funny way but I don't think so
this I
2:17:27
think this the first guy talks
about
2:17:29
this is a diff Semmering this I
mean we
2:17:31
may have to help trigger it but
it's
2:17:33
they're really helping to
sustain it or
2:17:36
to keep it going
2:17:37
yeah just to embarrass the
Chinese for
2:17:40
their 70th anniversary no
agenda imagine
2:17:46
all the people who could do
with us oh
2:17:48
yeah that'd be fine
2:17:52
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2:18:20
congratulating me and me we're
having a
2:18:22
meet-up today in Berkley it
would be ad
2:18:24
hoc so it's not gonna be that
many
2:18:26
people it's a good time to come
Sir
2:18:28
Roger on ice Baroness Karen of
the blue
2:18:31
moon happy anniversary we're
Ryan Brady
2:18:34
88 88 Christopher gray charles
schulz
2:18:39
not the peanut charles schulz
2:18:41
clay alchemy clay alchemist
time what if
2:18:45
this actually his name mark
Hampton
2:18:50
Robert Marsh no nervous it's
the rubber
2:18:53
marsh I know Eric Vaughn martyr
in Van
2:18:59
Nuys California and Sir Ronald
Gardner
2:19:02
of the insane Diego and Eric is
the
2:19:06
valley's Baron about there in
calories
2:19:09
the valleys Marin sorry sir
Eric then
2:19:12
I'm on were with Richard
Hufford at 800
2:19:15
eight Mobe sorry
2:19:19
yeah boob Oh boob yeah boob
anonymous
2:19:22
boob 800 eight
2:19:23
Brian Pierson six 6.66
anonymous in the
2:19:31
Netherlands added this donation
is for
2:19:34
Patrick big line because the
issue this
2:19:36
year I effed up his birthday
could you
2:19:38
say sorry for me okay done
that's one
2:19:43
way of doing it yeah if you
have to say
2:19:47
sorry about anything to anybody
for any
2:19:49
reason boob donuts donation
both of the
2:19:52
No Agenda show will read your
note yeah
2:19:54
I'm a big boob boob donation
yeah yeah
2:19:59
you stumbled onto a new source
of their
2:20:02
income
2:20:04
yeah I'm not holding my breath
2:20:07
Brian pol you might be surprised
2:20:10
Brian period I'm putting the
gauntlet
2:20:12
down Brian Pearson 66.6 six
2:20:17
pair in water son I'm sweet off
he's in
2:20:24
Sweden please never stop okay
yells
2:20:27
kadai Jun Makowski 5510 hey guys
2:20:33
thanks Tim Lang in Mount
Prospect
2:20:37
Illinois 5510 Matthew Durney
5432
2:20:43
Michael gates 5280 Eric Schmidt
in Frank
2:20:49
fort deutschland since Josh
karma works
2:20:53
sir milkman 5150 C note he'd
the Orange
2:20:58
County Meetup yes they sent is
that the
2:21:01
one who send this yeah there's
somebody
2:21:03
sent I think was the Orange
County
2:21:04
meetup sent it no a Tennessee
meetup
2:21:06
scented sheet with a map of
Tennessee
2:21:08
and signatures all over it
2:21:10
oh nice yeah and they sent two
of them
2:21:13
one for you Oh does mine break
no it's
2:21:19
got it I'll send it to you okay
2:21:22
Maxine Waters gravels back with
500 5 I
2:21:26
was overboard for one day
vacationing in
2:21:29
Port Roberts Washington huh
yeah I know
2:21:34
where it is
2:21:35
math is jokester I will not go
into math
2:21:40
you Grice 50 the following
people are
2:21:42
$50 donors name a location but
he does
2:21:46
have a no I'm not sure you read
anything
2:21:47
50 but it all I've got
available right
2:21:49
now I'm afraid you're sending
any more
2:21:51
my kid will be eating stale
bread no no
2:21:53
I'm drinking out of the toilet
for a
2:21:55
month so if you can see your
way clear
2:21:58
to a deep douching in a health
care we
2:22:00
do the health care at the end
of d
2:22:01
douching now you've been deduced
2:22:07
Jonathan mah mayor Meyer in
Xenia Ohio
2:22:12
Heather these are at $50 donors
2:22:14
Heather Rodriguez in Stockton
California
2:22:17
Edward Mazurek in Memphis
Tennessee
2:22:20
Larry hey in Mooresville North
Carolina
2:22:22
think it's sore hair Larry
2:22:24
Tony Smith in Fort Worth Texas
Ryan Gill
2:22:28
oh parts unknown
2:22:30
sir Jim Knight of the tug Hill
plateau
2:22:35
and he has that got happy
birthday we
2:22:38
got the call out there for you
also have
2:22:40
the call out for Matthew that's
2:22:42
concludes its very short list
today
2:22:44
unfortunately the Thursday's
have not
2:22:46
been up to par I want to thank
these
2:22:47
folks for helping us out on
show 1162
2:22:50
well it's also very nice that
people did
2:22:52
as some people did think of the
2:22:54
anniversary celebrations do it
can I ask
2:22:56
how many years you have been
together
2:22:58
and married now Plus this is
8888 the
2:23:02
chinese lucky number worth
millions of
2:23:04
dollars as a license plate you
could
2:23:08
figure it out 31 and they never
had a
2:23:11
fight never had a fight no
agenda
2:23:25
meetups calm website all sorted
out we
2:23:29
this is growing much faster
than I
2:23:31
thought it ever would and it's
been I
2:23:33
think the Orange County meetup
had 23
2:23:36
people and I encourage everyone
to go to
2:23:39
no agenda meetups comm that's
where you
2:23:41
can see pictures
2:23:43
I'm sure the Portland meetup
also had
2:23:46
quite a good showing
2:23:48
so there are event pictures and
and
2:23:50
people put in stuff in the
descriptions
2:23:52
there what is what I can't do
is people
2:23:55
sending me emails on show day
saying hey
2:23:57
I'm organizing this and could
you do a
2:23:59
mention it really has to all go
through
2:24:01
no agenda meetups calm because
there's a
2:24:04
you know Mimi's aren't Mimi and
Eric the
2:24:06
shill are diligently working on
this
2:24:10
actually the other guy who is
doing that
2:24:11
site no but they are working
with the
2:24:15
developer to make but you know
they're
2:24:18
also coordinating and then they
send the
2:24:20
information
2:24:21
to me so I what I'm saying is do
2:24:23
everything you need to do all
the
2:24:25
promotional all the reviews so
the
2:24:28
meetup reports this is very
important
2:24:30
you can put them right there in
your
2:24:32
meet up for that date and you
know you
2:24:35
can send me an email if you
want but
2:24:37
that's where I'm gonna get the
2:24:38
information from because we're
seeing
2:24:39
meetups with 15 20 25 people
again these
2:24:43
are completely organized by the
value
2:24:46
for value network it's
fantastic this
2:24:48
personal contact is more
necessary than
2:24:51
ever today
2:24:53
well John you're going to one
tonight
2:24:56
it's really it it will humanize
you and
2:25:00
the good thing is like a I hate
to say
2:25:02
it but it is a safe space it's
no agenda
2:25:05
safe space you walk up to no
agenda
2:25:07
people you can talk about
anything
2:25:08
there'll be no judgment no
triggering
2:25:10
just good conversation usually
with some
2:25:12
fine libations and no agenda
meetup.com
2:25:15
is where you can find out all
of the
2:25:18
information for instance this
evening
2:25:20
the Berkeley California meetup
Sunday
2:25:23
evening Murfreesboro Tennessee
August
2:25:25
10th Chicago
2:25:26
August 14th Warsaw in Poland
August 15th
2:25:30
southeast London also meet up in
2:25:32
Dearborn Michigan August 17th
in San
2:25:35
Antonio I think is that on the
sadder
2:25:40
this is the problem if you want
I don't
2:25:42
think I can come if it's a
Saturday it's
2:25:44
it's not good charities are no
good for
2:25:49
Adam or myself Saturday yeah
but if you
2:25:52
do Friday we can do Friday
Thursday's
2:25:55
good we're doing Thursday
tonight
2:25:56
Thursday's good Friday's good
probably
2:26:00
Monday's a good day but no
one's gonna
2:26:02
go to mine our Sunday night
would be
2:26:03
good maybe something that would
work but
2:26:06
but Saturday can't you Saturday
and
2:26:08
Wednesday it's not it just
doesn't work
2:26:10
Wednesday is out and so is
Saturday yes
2:26:13
it's our cuz we debts unless
you don't
2:26:14
want to show what and I know
that
2:26:18
doesn't make it easy for
everybody but
2:26:20
we are there always there in
spirit and
2:26:22
in fact you're high-quality
downloadable
2:26:25
PDFs of our heads to cut out
and put on
2:26:28
a stick we'll also be soon made
2:26:30
available in
2:26:32
No Agenda meet-ups Kampf just
closing
2:26:35
out the list for August the 18th
2:26:37
Victoria BC the 22nd of August
2:26:40
Charleston South Carolina
August 23rd
2:26:42
Salem Oregon the 25th Lincoln
Nebraska
2:26:44
and on the 31st Busan South
Korea and
2:26:49
Sao Paulo to meetups and again
go to no
2:26:52
agenda meetups doc I should
mention that
2:26:55
Eric maybe and Mimi probably
are going
2:26:59
to the Victoria media I would
love to go
2:27:01
to that meetup but that's great
yeah
2:27:04
yeah well that's it's a Sunday
so that
2:27:08
would work if you're out there
well I'd
2:27:10
have to do the show there I
know how
2:27:13
annoying I could do the show
there but I
2:27:16
said and again I said had to
lose it
2:27:18
would be complicated for me to
go that
2:27:23
hey do it move the Victoria BC
made up
2:27:27
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this is
2:30:37
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it is
2:30:39
your show your show your show
few things
2:30:47
that we haven't discussed okay
I do have
2:30:50
one of these side clips that we
could
2:30:52
use it's like an evergreen all
of a
2:30:53
sudden where I have now the CEO
of the
2:30:56
National Public Media on a
podcast
2:31:00
well now National Public Media
is what
2:31:02
yeah that's what I said okay
2:31:06
- '''l public media is an arm of
2:31:09
National Public Radio oh this
is the
2:31:12
compare that ones who sells ads
yeah
2:31:15
it's the commercial end of the
spectrum
2:31:17
yes yes so we you know we've
talked
2:31:20
about this before that most of
these
2:31:21
so-called public radio you know
they'd
2:31:24
ask for donations but they also
why are
2:31:27
they asking for donations when
they're
2:31:28
doing their commercial it
doesn't make
2:31:31
any sense to me why anyone
would give
2:31:32
them money they should be
giving it to
2:31:34
people that aren't
2:31:35
like ourselves that we don't
have you
2:31:37
know people buying ads for the
no gender
2:31:39
than asking for money - do you
want me
2:31:42
to play the advertise the NPRM
for
2:31:45
advertising clip first the the
Evergreen
2:31:47
yeah let's play that first then
we'll
2:31:49
play this and it just
reiterates in a
2:31:51
different way the same thing
only as
2:31:53
newer well this is when these
they did
2:31:57
they just have the brand new
CEO the
2:31:59
woman who came from BBC I think
wasn't
2:32:01
yeah no she can't board New
York Times I
2:32:03
forget where she came but she
went off
2:32:04
and did something else but this
is a yes
2:32:07
she was being course she was
talking
2:32:08
about revenue being down and
what the
2:32:10
problems were
2:32:10
Richard shit shit what that's
the wrong
2:32:15
clip I throw that whole damn
setup are
2:32:18
you kidding me
2:32:19
you did it big this has
happened to you
2:32:21
a number of times you're cursed
I hate
2:32:25
myself for this and it's a
curse so let
2:32:27
me tell you I I actually I
actually
2:32:31
dreamed labeled this thing
because I had
2:32:34
such a hard time finding it and
now
2:32:37
you've relabeled it to oblivion
I feel
2:32:40
so stupid well just cut that
out oh let
2:32:46
me make a mark here I'll cut
that out
2:32:48
I'll fix that in post okay done
so let's
2:32:52
just pretend you heard that
very funny
2:32:56
Wow
2:32:57
I can't believe she said call it
2:32:59
advertising whatever you want
to call it
2:33:01
man do you have it no I'm gonna
I'm
2:33:06
gonna put it in post I told you
and by
2:33:08
the way would I do all the time
which is
2:33:12
I put it someplace where I know
I won't
2:33:15
lose it
2:33:17
how come you moved it from the
kitchen
2:33:20
table it's been on the kitchen
table for
2:33:21
three months well I'm booted to
2:33:24
someplace where I knew I
wouldn't lose
2:33:26
it wait a min you'll never find
it again
2:33:28
in your whole life you have to
say why
2:33:30
do we delude ourselves with
this sort of
2:33:33
dump so now you need to say wow
that's a
2:33:37
great that's a great glass
let's just
2:33:42
skip that and we'll go to this
clip
2:33:44
which is the newest clip and
this is
2:33:46
another examine by the way this
guy's a
2:33:48
there's on a podcast that
they're
2:33:50
putting out in this guy's like
a podcast
2:33:52
junkie and he's talking about
the Golden
2:33:54
Age of podcasting him--had
casting
2:33:55
podcasting podcast and he's got
this
2:33:57
woman on here we go
2:33:58
joined by Jeana guru Boeing CEO
of
2:34:00
National Public Media and we
are gonna
2:34:02
talk all things audio this
Golden Age of
2:34:04
audio that we're inching and
welcome
2:34:05
thank you Brian it's great to
be here
2:34:08
okay so let's get let's get one
thing
2:34:10
out of the way first and that is
2:34:13
national public media I always
get
2:34:15
confused when it's national
public media
2:34:17
and then it's NPR and and if
there's a
2:34:21
difference what's that
difference is
2:34:23
National Public Media's the
sponsorship
2:34:26
subsidiary of NPR we have an
entire team
2:34:29
that helps bring corporate
sponsorship
2:34:32
to our member stations and then
another
2:34:34
team and PR corporate
sponsorships just
2:34:37
dedicated to driving
sponsorship for NPR
2:34:40
across all their platform so
money yes
2:34:43
is not the sort of the
government funded
2:34:48
sponsorship brand advertiser
world that
2:34:55
sounds a lot like this clip
okay move it
2:34:57
on to money how our NPR is
corporate
2:35:00
underwriting revenues holding
up in the
2:35:02
recession and what about
foundation
2:35:04
grants two different stories
2:35:07
underwriting is corporate
underwriting
2:35:11
is is down it's down for
everybody
2:35:14
I mean this is this is the this
is the
2:35:16
area that is most down for us
this isn't
2:35:18
isn't sponsorship underwriting
2:35:20
advertising call it whatever
you want
2:35:24
this other lady now I I knew I
haven't
2:35:28
spoken to her in years
2:35:29
yeah I had someone on my sales
team when
2:35:32
I did the top 30 hit list which
was a
2:35:34
nationally syndicated top 40
cap top 30
2:35:38
countdown show everybody with
out of
2:35:39
curiam TV guys at Pepsi was the
main
2:35:45
sponsor if I recall
2:35:46
and I think Reebok at at one
point but
2:35:49
we had sales people and they
would sell
2:35:51
for multiple they sold for Rush
Limbaugh
2:35:53
they sold for my show and and
this one
2:35:56
woman her sole job or the
outside of you
2:35:59
know this was selling
2:36:00
National Public Media and she
said I
2:36:03
talked about it it's exactly
like any
2:36:06
other radio sales job
2:36:08
the biggest frustration is
there's not
2:36:10
enough inventory because it's
you know
2:36:12
you only have so many places
where they
2:36:14
can say brought to you by so
they jack
2:36:17
up the rates but they don't
have they
2:36:19
can't create more inventory and
maybe
2:36:21
they've done it now with online
that
2:36:22
they've been able to add to
that mix but
2:36:25
for the pure radio side it's
sold just
2:36:28
like regular radio advertising
and
2:36:30
they've got a lot of things in
there
2:36:31
that are if he like calls to
action go
2:36:33
to this slash this on the site
just
2:36:35
short of giving you a promo code
2:36:38
basically yep so the fourth
route this
2:36:44
is a greatest scam in the
country yeah
2:36:46
they're full of crap and I
heard Bernie
2:36:48
Sanders on Joe Rogan I don't I
don't
2:36:53
want there's no clips that I
thought
2:36:54
what I mean he was boring I got
a good
2:36:56
clip okay will you hold on
about your
2:36:59
story first with my clip has
got a
2:37:01
double faux pas by Bernie yeah
but I
2:37:04
would let me gonna play it what
you said
2:37:06
you said tell me your story
then you go
2:37:08
into leading into your clip
okay yeah
2:37:12
you're right it's a mistake so
the one
2:37:16
thing he said is in other
countries they
2:37:19
give each party half an hour of
2:37:22
television time so you can go to
2:37:24
whatever you want you want the
word talk
2:37:26
about the healthcare you want
to talk
2:37:27
about student debt whatever you
want
2:37:29
that is how democratic is Iran
now what
2:37:34
he neglected to say is these
are was
2:37:35
even like in England they do
this in
2:37:37
England they have to give it to
him yeah
2:37:40
it's a state-run Corporation
the same in
2:37:43
Europe the state-run television
stations
2:37:46
the you know the the desh that
those are
2:37:50
the ones who are letting you do
that and
2:37:51
there's all kinds of
stipulations but
2:37:54
turn it around
2:37:55
why wouldn't NPR be doing that
here in
2:37:58
America why wouldn't PBS do be
doing it
2:38:00
you know why because they're
corporately
2:38:02
sponsored that's why there's
nothing
2:38:05
public about it as we just
2:38:09
I agree well I realize what you
think of
2:38:13
my Burnie am I getting there
well never
2:38:17
mind
2:38:19
it sounds like somebody and I'm
not sure
2:38:24
who it sounds like but does
this shot it
2:38:25
doesn't sound like Burnie it
sounds like
2:38:27
a generic character but it's
not quite
2:38:29
Burnie ish
2:38:30
oh we're not I'll work on it
well I
2:38:33
don't have the clip you're just
gonna
2:38:38
talk about the clip this is a
teaser for
2:38:41
the sunday show Oh the other
Thursday
2:38:44
okay the other Thursday the next
2:38:46
Thursday show it'd be on Sunday
yes and
2:38:49
I will have that uh yeah we do
have some
2:38:52
good news as kids apparently
this Caban
2:38:54
woman who is going to I do have
a clip
2:38:57
of this it was this oh this is
the the
2:38:59
Republican running wants to run
against
2:39:01
AOC in Brooklyn the bond is the
2:39:04
socialist DSA woman who wanted
to take
2:39:08
over the district attorney's
you know
2:39:12
and she was gonna legalize
prostitution
2:39:15
and take the police off the
street and
2:39:17
release all the prisoners this
sounds
2:39:19
great
2:39:20
she I was thinking that she
almost won
2:39:24
and they announced that she won
on
2:39:26
democracy now we played that
clip before
2:39:27
but it turns out she lost so
let's
2:39:30
listen in New York City Tiffany
Caban
2:39:32
conceded Tuesday to Melinda
Katz in the
2:39:35
race to become the Democratic
nominee
2:39:37
for the Queen's District
Attorney Gabon
2:39:39
appeared to narrowly win the
race
2:39:40
election night but a paper
count saw her
2:39:43
lose her lead by a razor thin
margin in
2:39:46
the final tally she lost to
Queens
2:39:48
borough president Melinda Katz
by just
2:39:51
55 votes after a judge refused
to
2:39:55
reinstate the discarded ballots
cabins
2:39:57
campaign was fighting for Caban
a public
2:40:01
defender and Democratic
Socialist ran on
2:40:03
a progressive platform of
ending cash
2:40:05
bail decriminalizing sex work
and going
2:40:07
after bad landlords police
officers and
2:40:10
immigration authorities she
vowed to
2:40:12
keep fighting to reform the
criminal
2:40:14
justice system tweeting quote
we showed
2:40:16
that you can run on a boldly D
carceral
2:40:19
platform you don't have to
compromise
2:40:21
your values or give
2:40:22
- fear-mongering you don't have
to play
2:40:24
by the old rules she said yeah
2:40:28
yeah how'd that work out well
she barely
2:40:31
lost by 50 votes Oh
2:40:33
how many votes were there about
98 no
2:40:39
she just barely lost I mean
it's a
2:40:41
miracle
2:40:41
I think they rigged the vote to
get cuz
2:40:43
they couldn't take a chance on
this with
2:40:45
she got in it would have it
would have I
2:40:47
may be great for the show but
it would
2:40:51
have been unbelievable what
would happen
2:40:53
but she didn't so I have a
question just
2:40:56
a random question how come
there's never
2:40:58
a mass shooting at a car DA
party in the
2:41:02
Hamptons see it seems like that
would be
2:41:06
the place to make an impact you
know
2:41:07
they'll go shootin poor people
Walmart
2:41:11
well they have a you know you
do have a
2:41:14
lot of polio match the polo
match yeah
2:41:17
you have a lot of hired help at
these
2:41:19
events yeah so it would be very
easy for
2:41:23
the hired help to be one of
them be a
2:41:25
radical with the with a machine
gun okay
2:41:27
we should probably stop John
the Trump's
2:41:30
read law Gestapo are gonna come
and get
2:41:32
us if we talk like this now see
now if
2:41:36
these guys are so good at doing
all this
2:41:38
read this and read laws and all
and they
2:41:41
can track us and we're already
under
2:41:42
incredible surveillance that for
2:41:44
surveillance state how come we
don't
2:41:46
stop any of these things
because it
2:41:50
doesn't really work yeah it
only works
2:41:53
after the fact and because the
algos are
2:41:55
really not all that good at all
all the
2:42:10
algos don't work but they can
predict
2:42:11
global warming yes hey there's
a big you
2:42:17
know I'm in the I'm in the
indoor
2:42:20
cycling community known as
spinning as
2:42:23
you know as you know I know I
have a
2:42:26
clip I have a clip yeah well I
have an
2:42:30
old clip deal spinning clip
once you
2:42:32
play it the old spin did you
the old
2:42:35
spinning clip
2:42:36
there's an old spinning clip
look up
2:42:38
spinning you'll find it uh okay
2:42:41
spin or spinning spinning oh
well
2:42:46
there's a couple of them
actually let me
2:42:50
see what was this one the other
one this
2:42:58
one what is happening it's
amazing you
2:43:02
can convince huh I had an old
spinning
2:43:06
clipping plaited a couple of
times on
2:43:08
the show
2:43:08
it describes spinning I think
that's
2:43:11
what it was it's a comedic
routine yeah
2:43:13
yeah I'm not gonna play that
you're
2:43:16
trying to embarrass my my sport
I won't
2:43:19
stand for this
2:43:21
does anyone win or you just sit
around
2:43:23
and tell a secret we hold hands
and we
2:43:27
tell each other secret exactly
and
2:43:29
remember to put your arms up
and bring
2:43:32
it all down to heart center
have a great
2:43:34
day everybody so there's a
controversy
2:43:37
in the spinning world now I
spend
2:43:40
locally that at ride which is a
local
2:43:44
Austin born and bred small
spinning
2:43:47
corporation I would never go to
the
2:43:49
overlords of SoulCycle those
phonies
2:43:52
over there with their candles
in the
2:43:54
spin class but especially this
weekend
2:43:57
where it's pride in Austin can
you
2:44:00
believe soul cycles are empty
also
2:44:04
tonight backlash is growing
against
2:44:06
equinox and solstice revealed
their
2:44:09
billionaire owner is set to
hold a
2:44:11
fundraiser for the president as
our
2:44:13
Stephanie Gosk reports he has
some
2:44:14
celebrities calling for a
boycott and
2:44:16
customers canceling memberships
high-end
2:44:20
fitness brand equinox gyms got
their
2:44:23
members heart rates racing in an
2:44:25
entirely different way today
criticism
2:44:27
and threats to boycott the gym
and it's
2:44:29
spinning studio soul cycle came
flooding
2:44:32
in after word broke that the
2:44:33
corporation's owner billionaire
Stephen
2:44:36
Ross is holding a lavish
fundraiser for
2:44:39
president Trump later this week
2:44:40
talk-show host Andy Cohen raged
outside
2:44:43
a gym so
2:44:45
equinox and solstice rump
campaign but
2:44:51
later added he was keeping his
2:44:53
membership everybody's whatever
Equinox
2:44:58
says neither Equinox nor
SoulCycle have
2:45:00
anything to do with the event
and do not
2:45:02
support it in a statement Ross
writes I
2:45:05
have always been an active
participant
2:45:07
in the democratic process
2:45:08
I've known Donald Trump for
forty years
2:45:10
and while we agree on some
issues we
2:45:13
strongly disagree on many others
2:45:15
it's the latest example of
people using
2:45:18
their wallets as political
hammers so
2:45:20
I'm recently boycotted Nike for
removing
2:45:23
a line of shoes with the Betsy
Ross flag
2:45:25
and multiple student blah blah
blah but
2:45:29
I will be monitoring the
situation here
2:45:31
in Austin for it is my belief
that
2:45:32
soul/psyche will have to close
because
2:45:36
of this could be and I'm going
to tell
2:45:38
you something interesting out a
bunch of
2:45:46
people in Texas you're his
brother his
2:45:50
brother the one with the beard
Joaquim
2:45:52
is the brother well he's got
now he's
2:45:54
got blond hair he's changed his
hair
2:45:56
colors he's got a tattoo his
face like
2:45:58
Tyson and I think he's going to
2:46:00
eventually go trans personally
that's
2:46:03
what I think now and then he
did his
2:46:06
brother a follow later and
people be
2:46:08
confused like off skis I think
did this
2:46:10
now once he outed these people
and did
2:46:14
this and this is gonna happen
with the
2:46:16
soul cycles to the media is
going to the
2:46:19
media which is stupid is going
to have
2:46:21
to realize that you can't do
this
2:46:24
because that means it's gonna
slow down
2:46:26
on donations people aren't
gonna want to
2:46:28
donate because they don't want
to be
2:46:29
outed cuz it's very easy to do
cuz all
2:46:31
the donations are listed on
this website
2:46:33
if you want out somebody say oh
let's
2:46:36
our local barber is is donated
the max2
2:46:39
Trump and he's a lousy guy and
he won't
2:46:42
donate again and it's gonna be
not just
2:46:45
for Trump's campaign no but
people gonna
2:46:48
stop donating to any campaign
who's
2:46:50
gonna be hurt who is hurt by the
2:46:52
donations slow down Jared
Kushner the
2:46:55
people are gonna be hurt are
the media
2:46:58
the media won't get their money
and so
2:47:02
you can't let this even be part
of the
2:47:05
news cycle you've got to put a
lid on it
2:47:07
you gotta have the good point
good point
2:47:11
you're gonna have to condemn
Castro get
2:47:14
him he won't even be on the
debates
2:47:15
we're after the next one but
for Duke
2:47:17
for pulling this stunt and then
doubling
2:47:19
down on it anybody in the media
that in
2:47:22
other words the guys who have a
clue the
2:47:23
higher end in the media
2:47:25
what are we letting this guy
get away
2:47:27
with this for cuz that money is
our
2:47:29
money now mind you it was his
brother
2:47:32
who's not running who did it
it's our
2:47:37
money I don't care whose
brother it was
2:47:39
that guy's done he's out I
think you
2:47:43
make a very good point and
we'll see how
2:47:46
that goes the research was done
he's
2:47:49
toast the reason I said when I
said
2:47:53
Jared Kushner is for something
else I
2:47:56
learned about recently you know
the
2:47:59
Democrats Democratic National
Committee
2:48:03
pretty much used this as I
think it's is
2:48:06
it chair blue yeah cher blue so
all the
2:48:10
donations all run through one
company
2:48:13
and they do the they have a
website yes
2:48:16
and they do the payment
processing and
2:48:18
I'm pretty sure they also write
the chip
2:48:20
in email since it's all Donald
Trump had
2:48:28
a COO and created win read and
win red
2:48:33
is it was set up by Kushner he
brought
2:48:36
in I think the guy from stripe
yeah I
2:48:41
think it was stripe to run it
that was
2:48:45
there that's a credit process
credit
2:48:47
card processor and Trump has now
2:48:50
finagled this win read into
being the
2:48:53
central place for all
Republican Party
2:48:59
donations to all run through
win read
2:49:02
nice well what's nice is they
probably
2:49:06
are using I mean they have all
the
2:49:10
information now they know
everything of
2:49:12
you they've got your credit
card they're
2:49:13
taking a 6% cut so probably
about three
2:49:19
deems hi yes hello
2:49:21
it's um I think it's a ripoff
it sounds
2:49:26
like it and I don't think it's
very cool
2:49:28
and no one's reporting on it of
course
2:49:31
well I'll look into well it's
probably
2:49:34
comparable to what the big blue
whatever
2:49:37
that up wide I bet you it
similar cuz I
2:49:41
don't think they would overdo
it they
2:49:42
don't want to be cuz then if
you compare
2:49:43
one it might be a setup so you
have to
2:49:45
compare the other what but what
win cuz
2:49:48
I have you know I mean the
share blue
2:49:50
system because I always donate
to both
2:49:51
sides although I don't vote for
either
2:49:53
side as unaffiliated as I am
but I'd
2:49:58
like to get all the emails and
really
2:50:01
this win win red outfit I
noticed the
2:50:04
difference because all of a
sudden I was
2:50:05
getting text messages from them
with
2:50:07
links and it's it's several a
week and
2:50:09
it's like the president wants
you at
2:50:11
dinner and they got a match we
got a
2:50:14
match I mean consistently
fundraising
2:50:18
within you know and and all you
have to
2:50:20
do is say yes and that odd they
2:50:23
automatically deduct from your
card on
2:50:25
file which they don't have
anymore
2:50:27
because I haven't donated
anyone this
2:50:29
year and that credit card
expired so you
2:50:35
know but the Trump Organization
2:50:36
especially this Weasley Kushner
I think
2:50:39
they're making some money on
this could
2:50:41
be and this stripe guide seems
kind of
2:50:44
untrustworthy but I more
reporting on
2:50:47
that on on Sunday I've got to
dive a
2:50:49
little bit deeper but I've been
meaning
2:50:51
to mention something about it
it's kind
2:50:54
of douchey at the point is I
was making
2:50:55
it was different which now I
know I know
2:50:57
it was done there's no doubt
about it I
2:51:00
think that's a very valid point
well
2:51:03
maybe they threw this you know
let's
2:51:05
focus on this let's
2:51:07
let's boycott SoulCycle I think
they're
2:51:11
public aren't they public I
have no idea
2:51:14
there that holds that whole
part of
2:51:17
society to be yeah I got one
more thing
2:51:25
unless you have something else
well I
2:51:27
guess some stuff but I think I
can move
2:51:29
it I do want to talk about that
that
2:51:31
Jessica woman guy Jonathan up
in Canada
2:51:35
yes Megan making a mess up
there and
2:51:38
they have a bunch of clips
about it but
2:51:40
mostly the clips aren't so much
about
2:51:41
her this is the woman who isn't
it she's
2:51:45
exploiting Canadian law and in
Canada if
2:51:47
you say you're a woman then by
law
2:51:50
you're a woman and even if
you're a
2:51:52
podcaster or a youtuber you
can't deny
2:51:55
that you can actually be
penalized yeah
2:51:58
you can be fined or jail yeah
so this
2:52:04
Jonathan character who seems to
be some
2:52:06
sort of a character and being
all caps
2:52:11
he is exploiting the Canadian
sister the
2:52:16
Canadian laws and and he seems
to be he
2:52:20
just says he's a woman he said
he's
2:52:22
never taken hormones he doesn't
he puts
2:52:24
the lipstick on and he wears a
dress
2:52:25
once in a while but not always
and he
2:52:28
says he's a woman therefore he
should be
2:52:30
able to get his because he's a
woman by
2:52:33
his own statement that means his
2:52:36
genitalia are women's genitalia
cuz he's
2:52:41
a woman and they're although
that's a
2:52:43
dick and balls and so he is
demanding to
2:52:46
be waxed by the various
operations in
2:52:51
Canada that do Brazilians by
the way in
2:52:54
what you said earlier by saying
he that
2:52:58
can get you find in Canada yes
this is
2:53:02
true in fact we have the couple
lawyers
2:53:04
talking about there but I'm not
in
2:53:05
Canada right now and everybody
who's
2:53:08
paid any attention in the New
Republic
2:53:09
did a greatly good article on
this and
2:53:11
they refer to him as he cuz if
that's
2:53:13
face reality
2:53:15
but the Canadians because he'd
2:53:17
self-identify self-identified
not having
2:53:19
just you just say you're a
woman you're
2:53:22
a woman and so now he's making
a fuss
2:53:24
and suing everybody he already
put a
2:53:26
couple of these little salons
which are
2:53:27
business out of business and
some woman
2:53:30
he even extorted $2,500 from
someone to
2:53:32
just get him off his case and
so some
2:53:34
legal eagles are all on it and
they're
2:53:37
you know fighting back and what
I have a
2:53:41
are clips that discuss the legal
2:53:43
weirdness of Canada in regards
to this
2:53:46
character and I'm gonna save
those for
2:53:48
some oh no I want to hear them
okay I
2:53:52
got him let's go let's start
with let's
2:53:58
go with Human Rights decide
there's four
2:54:00
three clips and I'm gonna play
them all
2:54:02
now because because he demanded
it human
2:54:04
rights discussion this is a
very good
2:54:06
clip we've got two conflicting
ideas of
2:54:10
human rights and two
conflicting ideas
2:54:12
of equality and I think it's
the same in
2:54:15
the United States there's a more
2:54:18
traditional understanding of
human
2:54:19
rights which is a classical
liberal
2:54:21
approach which is that my my
human
2:54:23
rights fundamentally are about
my right
2:54:25
to be left alone by government
so I can
2:54:30
practice my religion I can say
what I
2:54:31
want to say I can associate
with whom I
2:54:33
want to associate I can own and
enjoy
2:54:37
the fruits of my labor by way
of private
2:54:39
property rights so my human
rights don't
2:54:42
really conflict with other
people's
2:54:43
human rights is simply a right
to be
2:54:44
left alone by government and
that's also
2:54:48
the older idea of we're all
equal before
2:54:52
the law but there's not
necessarily an
2:54:54
equal outcome because some
people are
2:54:56
more talented some people work
harder
2:54:58
some people are smarter people
make
2:55:01
different choices good choices
bad
2:55:02
choices and at the end of the
day we're
2:55:05
not all equal in terms of our
our
2:55:08
appearance or how much money we
make or
2:55:11
all kinds of other factors so
the older
2:55:14
idea was you know free people
are not
2:55:16
equal and equal people are not
free and
2:55:17
I think that still holds true
today but
2:55:20
now the new notion of human
rights is it
2:55:25
it's kind of a change too
2:55:28
human ambitions human demands
human
2:55:30
entitlements said you know I I
have a
2:55:32
right to to be sold goods and
services
2:55:38
and and nobody can turn me down
or I I
2:55:42
have a right it's become an
imposition
2:55:44
on other people yeah it's one
thing for
2:55:47
you take the example gender
identity
2:55:49
gender expression under the old
idea of
2:55:51
human rights the classical
liberal idea
2:55:53
every person has the freedom to
dress up
2:55:56
whoever they want so if a man
wants just
2:55:58
to call himself a woman dress
up as a
2:56:00
woman
2:56:01
okay that's your human right to
dress up
2:56:03
as you please but the new human
rights
2:56:06
extends to what other people
have to
2:56:09
agree with yourself conception
and have
2:56:11
to affirm your own beliefs that
you
2:56:14
really are a woman and other
people have
2:56:16
to treat you like a woman and
that's
2:56:18
that's a big leap away from the
the
2:56:21
traditional understanding of
human
2:56:23
rights and are they teaching
this in K 1
2:56:25
through 12 oh yeah
2:56:27
absolutely in fact you
exhibited a good
2:56:29
quality when you called me out
for
2:56:31
calling this guy a him he when
he says
2:56:35
he's a girl I should be now I'm
required
2:56:37
by law in Canada you mentioned
this
2:56:39
yourself I have to call them a
she so
2:56:42
it's an imposition on me let's
play this
2:56:43
clip this is the huh the this
is the
2:56:46
next clip which is the
hierarchy of
2:56:48
rights but what's happened in
in recent
2:56:50
decades is you've got more and
more
2:56:52
conflicts between sexual
orientation and
2:56:56
religion like in the United
States
2:56:58
you've got the the cake
decorator cake
2:57:01
Baker saying look I'll gladly
serve gay
2:57:05
and lesbian clients but I'm not
going to
2:57:07
participate in a same-sex
wedding and
2:57:10
make the cake because that's
contrary to
2:57:12
my religious conviction and the
US
2:57:15
Supreme Court ruled in favor of
the the
2:57:17
Baker in that case in Canada
the courts
2:57:20
would far more likely rule in
favor of
2:57:23
the of the customer that was
denied the
2:57:25
cake but that is a real
conflict there
2:57:28
between somebody wanting I think
2:57:31
legitimately to practice their
religion
2:57:33
and live out their faith
2:57:36
versus you know some of the
demands and
2:57:40
so there's always lots of
clashes
2:57:42
between the LGBTQ and the
religious
2:57:46
freedom are continually in
conflict and
2:57:49
nine times out of ten if not
nineteen
2:57:51
times out of 20 the court's
ruling on
2:57:54
the LGBTQ side even though they
continue
2:57:57
to insist oh there's no
hierarchy of
2:57:59
rights there's no hierarchy of
rights
2:58:01
well the court rulings
themselves proved
2:58:03
otherwise there is a hierarchy
of rights
2:58:06
and then the last one is just
what is
2:58:09
these things gonna happen and
this is a
2:58:11
very short clip these cases
receive a
2:58:14
lot of publicity whether the
Justice
2:58:17
Center is involved or not our
arguments
2:58:20
in the Yaniv case is that the
Canadian
2:58:23
Charter of Rights and Freedoms
which is
2:58:24
the supreme law of the land
which is
2:58:26
superior supreme over any law
passed by
2:58:29
any province or by the national
2:58:31
parliament Canadian Charter of
Rights
2:58:33
and Freedoms guarantees a right
to
2:58:36
Liberty and a right to security
of the
2:58:38
person and one of our arguments
is that
2:58:40
a woman as part of her security
of the
2:58:44
person should not be compelled
by law to
2:58:47
wax male genitalia yeah and you
know
2:58:51
hopefully the and the tribunal
is
2:58:52
required to at least consider
that
2:58:55
argument I won't predict
whether they
2:58:57
will accept it or reject it wow
this is
2:59:01
what you get when you have a
weak
2:59:02
governmental system I guess
well if this
2:59:06
is what you get when you listen
to
2:59:08
maniacs these the social
justice warrior
2:59:12
types are these these Democrats
or the
2:59:14
Democrats socialist or any of
these
2:59:16
people that have gone out of
their way
2:59:18
to corrupt a system in such a
way that
2:59:21
common sense doesn't even come
into play
2:59:23
they swimming in Canada these
these wax
2:59:27
ologists some of them are called
2:59:29
they may be required to grab
this guy's
2:59:32
balls and then to fondle them
and pull
2:59:34
off you know put some some
stuff on
2:59:36
there and then wax the guy by
law they
2:59:40
were required to do this this
is like
2:59:42
this is a perversion and and the
2:59:45
Canadian law is actually
encouraging it
2:59:48
is a perverted country you can
donate at
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Dvorak org /na or you can the
Navy it's
2:59:57
alright to lighten the mood I
would
3:00:00
leave us with a joke from a
podcast it's
3:00:03
only one minute but I thought
it was a
3:00:05
pretty funny joke and it's
about Los
3:00:07
Angeles in San Francisco this
is from
3:00:09
the Bill burr podcast he does a
podcast
3:00:12
on Mondays
3:00:14
he's usually too depressing for
me to
3:00:17
listen to but I
3:00:18
I appreciate that he's doing it
and he
3:00:21
has guests on and this is a
comedian
3:00:23
Steve Sweeney let me tell you
something
3:00:25
you want to look at a portrait
of life
3:00:28
right uh-huh
3:00:30
okay so right now here's my
take on Los
3:00:32
Angeles cuz I've been here a
few times
3:00:34
now this year with this movie
but I
3:00:36
lived by the way it's called
Sweeney
3:00:38
killing Sweeney it's on iTunes
and it's
3:00:41
on Amazon okay
3:00:42
so right now here's my take on
Los
3:00:44
Angeles the camping it's
amazing this is
3:00:48
the greatest place to camp out
in the
3:00:50
world because I see everybody's
camping
3:00:52
out wherever you go every
sidewalk
3:00:54
there's somebody's sleeping
right right
3:00:56
you know what I'm saying it's a
great
3:00:57
city to be homeless as far as
like the
3:00:59
wallet everybody's camping out
it's nice
3:01:01
they like the outdoors but and
then in
3:01:05
San Francisco I'm at The Improv
tonight
3:01:09
so I'm trying out some little
material
3:01:10
on you San Francisco I went
there and
3:01:14
you know I went to see all the
Golden
3:01:17
Gate Bridge and all the sights
Telegraph
3:01:19
Avenue but then I said let me
When in
3:01:24
Rome right not to as the you
know people
3:01:27
that live there didn't do so I
took a
3:01:29
shit on the sidewalk and I
gotta tell
3:01:31
you it's very liberating I
thought there
3:01:35
was a good joke was a great
buildup yeah
3:01:40
it's cute
3:01:41
yeah all right everybody whoa
the
3:01:44
affiliates should we'll be
surprised we
3:01:47
are now went way over we did go
way over
3:01:49
well you got your money's worth
today
3:01:51
what was it worth to you that's
what we
3:01:53
call value we'd like to receive
value
3:01:55
from you too
3:01:56
org /na Nick the rat coming up
next on
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the no agenda stream no agenda
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dot-com thanks to Sir Chris
Wilson and
3:02:04
Felix Wilson for one more
donation plea
3:02:08
from a young abuse child Tom
nonnamous
3:02:13
and Gary with some older end of
show
3:02:17
mixes and we return on the
second
3:02:20
Thursday of the week on Sunday
right
3:02:22
here no agenda show calm until
then
3:02:25
coming in from the frontier of
Austin
3:02:27
Texas FEMA region number six
and the
3:02:29
governmental maps in the morning
3:02:30
everybody I'm Adam curry and
from
3:02:32
northern Silicon Valley I never
saw this
3:02:34
effort today must've uh-huh I'm
John C
3:02:37
Dvorak we return Sunday right
here on no
3:02:39
agenda until then
3:02:42
adios mofos and such I want to
call out
3:02:59
my brother Joe as a douchebag
daddy why
3:03:05
do they call people douchebag
it's for
3:03:07
someone who's been listening to
the show
3:03:09
for a while but never donated
or someone
3:03:11
who hasn't donated long time
daddy when
3:03:14
did you last donate to the show
it
3:03:16
wasn't that long ago I had my
beard
3:03:18
deduced don't you remember that
was a
3:03:20
very long time ago daddy yes
Felix are
3:03:23
you a douchebag my name is
Felix Wilson
3:03:30
and my daddy is a douchebag but
he
3:03:32
wasn't always a douchebag life
just got
3:03:35
in the way and now it makes me
sad to
3:03:38
say this daddy you're a
douchebag you
3:03:42
can easily cure this in sir can
you stop
3:03:45
being a douchebag go to the
vorc tour
3:03:47
old /na and donate now no child
deserves
3:03:51
a douchebag parent
3:03:55
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