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September 15th, 2019 • 2h 51m

1173: Vinyl Vote

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12k lives matter man Adam curry
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John C. Dvorak Sunday September 15 2019
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this is your award winning combination
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media assassination episode 11 73 this
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is no agenda revving up the 500-mile
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drones and broadcasting live from
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opportunity zone 33 the frontier of
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Austin Texas capital of the Durham Star
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State in the morning everybody
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I'm Adam curry - from Northern Silicon
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Valley where it's foggy unbelievable I'm
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John Steed Evora in our world today many
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things are unbelievable foggy and San
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Francisco not one of them ah come on
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how can you call that unbelievable when
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because it's not July unbelievable is
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weaponized drones that fly five five
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hundred miles
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well that's unbelievable
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what kind of drone does this electric
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yeah I find this whole story a couple of
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batteries of course I'm referring to the
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explosions
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yes saudi was at oil refineries a
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refinery or processing what exactly is
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that a refinery that is processing so is
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everyone now waiting for the oil markets
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to open tonight or when i think the open
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late sunday to see if it'll go to $100 a
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barrel well we'll go to $100 a barrel he
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took out well for one thing it's a
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refining operation not a crude oil
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production operation so the refining
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will be done someplace else right but
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it'll it'll cause a a slowdown it has to
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yeah what is it
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apparently it accounts for 10% of the of
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the production of the worldwide
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production on a daily basis right well I
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mean what I'm reading in a lot of
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publications it's all oh this is gonna
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be a heart attack for the oil oil
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industry the price is gonna go through
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the roof well they are gonna go up yeah
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they were pretty low actually we were at
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2 to 15 a gallon here
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which is nice well it's the same four
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bucks a gallon here so how much higher
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it's gonna go I just by cycle if you
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don't like paying $4 a gallon use a
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bicycle
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[Music]
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I just can't get over this this non
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reporting of what kind of drones did
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this I feel exactly the same way what
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kind of drones here's the CBS this is
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the drone strike a clip CBS wrapping it
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up multiple drones bombed Saudi Arabia's
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the largest oil facilities today and
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tonight Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
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accused Iran of launching the attack and
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ruled out a claim of responsibility by
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Yemeni rebels the attack damaged the
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source of an estimated eight million
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barrels of crude oil produced there
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every day that's about 10% of the
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world's daily supply of crude oil
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here's Roxana Saberi flames and black
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smoke filled the sky over the world's
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largest oil processing plant in Saudi
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Arabia this morning spreading so far
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they could even be seen from space
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Saudi Arabia confirmed the abdic
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refinery and her s oil field the
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country's second biggest were both hit
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by drone strikes in neighboring Yemen
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Houthi rebels claimed responsibility for
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the attack
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republic min allahi ta'ala the group
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spokesman said the Houthi struck the two
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sites with ten drones and warned of more
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attacks
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the iranian-backed Houthis have been at
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war with the saudi-led Coalition in
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Yemen since 2015
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brutal conflict has pushed Hammond to
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the brink of famine and turned the
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country into what the UN calls the
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world's worst humanitarian crisis lately
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that war has stretched into Saudi Arabia
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with rebels repeatedly using drones to
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target oil facilities the heart of the
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country's economy and a source of 1/10
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of the world's crude oil the Saturday's
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attack hit deep within the country
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proving the Houthis ability to carry out
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increasingly sophisticated strikes and
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threatening to escalate tensions that
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are already inflamed in the Persian Gulf
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today's drone strikes could have an
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effect on oil prices but that depends on
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how badly the sites were damaged Rina
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the Saudis say Crown Prince Mohammed bin
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Salman received a phone call from
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President Trump saying attacks like this
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could have a negative impact on the
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economy in the US and around the world
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well I have a couple well go ahead well
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couple things first right by the way
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everyone just a quick aside I do have
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that I sewed I knew you'd laugh at it
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many you many I so yes so you might like
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it they probably mean a lot actually
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this begs for a combo thanks for
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somebody to translate it well let's give
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this a shot hold on a second let's try
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this I mean just rewind they probably
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mean a lot yeah I would I wouldn't mind
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a little trans translation that would be
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nice yeah translation would be good
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let's try this yeah let me just try it
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[Music]
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we can do a three-peat come on freeway
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me a 3-way oh yes a three-way yeah
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that's what I meant let's try it and
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that'll be it then I'm done they
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probably mean a lot yeah it's definitely
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a combination worth remembering now
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the thing that got me about this report
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besides the kind of vagaries about how
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much it was the damage the type of
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drones not do we didn't learn anything
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nothing uh and then that the last thing
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he says Trump called Ben Salman and said
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hey you know the economies are gonna be
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affected by this really that's not a
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phone call he's gonna make and that was
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verbatim I'm sure it's bullcrap but if
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you read here's the New York Times the
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attacks immediately escalated tensions
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but even as key questions remain
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unanswered where the drones were
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launched from and how the Houthis
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managed to hit facilities deep in Saudi
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territory some 500 miles from Yemeni
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soil Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
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accused Iran of being behind what he
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called an unprecedented attack on the
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world's energy supply and asserted that
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there was quote no evidence the attacks
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came from Yemen he did not however
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specify an alternative launch site and
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the Saudis themselves refrained from
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pointing the finger directly at Iran I
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just have a real problem with the drone
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part I can't tell you anything else
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about any other truth in this or
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untruths what drones swarm apparently a
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swarm of drones with I guess c-4 charges
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auto home 500 miles I I'm just as
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baffled as you are as the first thing
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that came to mind is what kind of
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reporting is this well there I do it we
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we do have one guy who's in Saudi Arabia
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that yes that did give us a report I am
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reluctant as I mentioned earlier before
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the show to mention his name let's not
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do that but we can read what he sent to
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us is a very one of our best producers
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yes have it here gents hope this makes
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it in time for the conversation today
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indeed information beyond the news still
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kind of sorting itself out but looking
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at the drone attack on the Ramco sites I
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chatted with some local colleagues and
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have actually we're not doing this right
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I just the way that CBS report just went
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we have to have sound effects you know
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they I heard this in the background they
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had that
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like machine guns well know that not
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always need drones there we go
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both sites are in the eastern region of
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the kingdom karai's I think karai's is
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about 100 kilometers east of riyadh and
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ab pike
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ABQ aiq is closer to the coast one of my
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friends a local here showed me a video
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we found on YouTube ostensibly uploaded
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by a guy in Kuwait the clip shows a
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night scene and what sounds like a jet
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flying over he claims that that's one of
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the drones that was launched from inside
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Iraq and headed from Saudi Arabia sounds
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like there were four that he heard and
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I'm assuming those would be part of with
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the apparently 10 drones that were sent
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out reported by the news here if it was
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a jet it may have been a cruise missile
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vise drone
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I'm familiar with this model cruise
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missile glice drone since Iran has
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transferred / sold Shabaab cruise
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missiles to the Yemen Houthis I'm not an
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unmanned aerial vehicle expert though
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and could be wrong sure truth is out
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there we'll keep poking around I know
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our clients have been visiting out east
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working to secure pipelines etc yes
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another good reason not to mention his
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name so this is a little different
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sounds like this was a jet like a cruise
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missile
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hmm yeah Christmas is not the same as a
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drone no but a cruise missile would have
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blown up the entire facility yeah
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now you'd think you think it would it
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all depends on the on the load on the
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charge the payload the bomb
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well yeah carrying nothing and just fuel
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it would did what it did but I don't
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know it's vague and nobody's helping
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here so well let's see who benefits
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oil traders okay well they've been
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they've been looking for this for a
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while I mean this this does come as a
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gift from the heavens for the commodity
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boys
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this also benefits the United States as
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our exports are now valuable well that a
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and B apparently China according to this
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guy Kyle bass who I've been following
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very closely I don't have a clip from
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him today but he's the one who's looking
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at China very closely and China's oil
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imports have just skyrocketed over the
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last few years and they're they're real
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and they're paying more than they should
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and now he's actually kind of cool if it
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wouldn't collapse the economy but it
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wouldn't do do them any good if the
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prices of oil skyrocketed we could
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probably take it because we have most of
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our stuffs internally produced mm-hmm
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but the world market would jack up the
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price of jack up and the next thing you
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know the Chinese would be under the gun
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again so what the Hawks are saying is oh
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well this is it this is our reason to go
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to war with Iran I don't really see that
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and so that's this another group that
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would benefit doosh bad guys
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[Music]
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well
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[Music]
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eventually the truth will come out yeah
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in a rose or he sent the drones in the
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Rope yeah well you know could be anybody
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but if if this is the story that they're
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gonna hook the Russians make out to
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lists don't forget that they make out
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with their with their exports sure there
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but if this is the story they're gonna
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hold on to then we should be really
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worried about this drone swarm with
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incredible range capability using our
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the cheese I mean it goes through
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oh also our military industrial complex
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might benefit as perhaps we need oh you
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know think of the timing of this so we
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have learned dome well if well hold on
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we have the little uh
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these apparently are smallish drones a
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swarm of ten do you remember it was I
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was it maybe a couple months ago that
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drones were showing up at airports and
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shutting down the airports for for 24-48
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hours where they tried to find them and
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I think there are some drone catching
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technologies that have been touted in
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the recent yes netting yeah well there's
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the nets there's the microwave we can
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essentially zap it and then bring it
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down and land it and you know I like the
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Nets myself I think that's cooler to see
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some net gulp deploy snag a drone
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well okay hey get drone and just snag a
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drone and so we everybody wants to snag
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a drone I guess we'll just have to see
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what comes out this I find this very odd
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that it's so it's just tossed away so
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cavalierly I asked some drones right
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quite sure 500 miles happens all the
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time
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it's like droning Los Angeles from San
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Francisco yeah think about the White
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House these things snuck under the radar
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presumably our radar don't we sell all
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our stuff to the Saudis I think so yeah
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it's a good point
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mm-hmm well yeah the White House would
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be vulnerable from Baltimore
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[Music]
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more info needed I would be remiss to
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not say that I'm very sad that Eddie
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Money died yeah and money yeah he's a
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good guy or was he used to play in
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Berkeley free at this one bar for
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probably ten years before he got
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discovered yeah he had a kind of a
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comeback in like 80 88 I think and then
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he came to MTV you know it's such a nice
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guy
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his family's all cops and firemen and
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well he you know he is you know about
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the coma right I think so
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refresh my memory is and it kind of
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ruined his career that's why he had to
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make a comeback because everyone what
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happened to Eddie Money anybody got some
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bad coke that's believed that's what it
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was or something you some he ingested
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something and went into a coma for a
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year
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yeah I do recall that and he was out of
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commission ER he was just in the
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hospital for a year was kind of like a
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who's the reet petite Jackie Wilson he
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Wilson Jackie Wilson went to a coma and
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stayed in a coma and died in a coma and
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he was one of the real great rock and
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roll or early rock and rollers from the
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60s but Eddie Money the same thing it
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looked like it almost happened to him he
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was out for a year and then he had to
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make a comeback and you had them it was
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that member he's partially paralyzed the
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part of his face and never came back a
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little they was a joke yeah and so but
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he's always said that that sexy gravelly
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exactly
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from probably from polyps well he died
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of esophageal cancer yeah yeah man
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anyway I'm just sad 70 that's a little
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young for Eddie although he probably
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lived 15 years past this time he think
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about it yeah including taking that one
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year away probably did okay uh yeah so
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we got back last night around time back
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would you go ah Tina took me to Vegas
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after the show Thursday
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what should you drive well alright drive
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from us but we almost did now she had
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scored tickets to Bruno Mars and so and
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Oh was it that she was that first place
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or second place was two tickets to Bruno
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Mars you're so funny
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and we had we got hooked up by Dame
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Angela there in in Las Vegas she got to
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say basically a comped room one night
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Compton one night reduced rate at the
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Cosmopolitan the hippest hotel on the
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strip ladies and gentlemen but you're
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required to say that for the free room
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oh yeah I don't think so and I'll tell
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you why in a moment cuz they'll never
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give me a free room again but we almost
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did wind up driving as we went we went
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out we went nice and early you know with
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the show would we would do and I were
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done on time got out there we had at
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least an hour and a half again
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we didn't have pre-check so we needed a
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little bit of extra time for some reason
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that didn't show up and then so it's six
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o'clock and then we get a she gets a
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text message oh I'm sorry your delight
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is the latest flight is delayed until
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9:30 like we're gonna see the airport
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for three and a half hours so okay we're
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ten minutes away as they will pop back
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we can watch the at least an hour of the
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debate which I was gonna miss and we're
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almost home and the text comes back oh
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sorry your flights on time in after all
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which meant we had you know about 37
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minutes to get back and get to the gate
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through the nope recheck TSA checkpoints
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I thought you paid money for good money
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for free check yeah well you just don't
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get always get it you know and you can
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run askew and in bitch all you want you
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don't always get it so needless to say
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we did make it that worked then we got
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to the hotel you know by the way people
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shouldn't met know this
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just because it says it's delay there's
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two things that happen when a flight
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gets delayed and then just a little
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quick good tourist tip we love two
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things happen one you look up you start
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talking to people and you find that this
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delay is bullcrap it's not a half an
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hour delay it's gonna be our two-hour
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three-hour delay yeah it's Jenny but
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they keep giving you they make it they
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want to keep you're near the gate the
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other one is when they do a long delay
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and then they pull the plug on it late
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this can happen all this happens all the
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time
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oh we're got lucky we took a new plane
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we got a new plane we're gonna be
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leaving in an hour before you know we
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said we would and what you're supposed
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to do you gotta stick around you can't
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just do what you did which is the
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logical thing to do which is go back
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home yeah and we only live as I said 10
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minutes from the airport but by this
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time we're going back at 6 o'clock we
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hit rush-hour traffic so you've got a
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little got a little interesting there as
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well and white-knuckle e so we check-in
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of where we're at to check-in for the
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hotel and and the checking lady says oh
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I'm going to upgrade you oh well this is
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great
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Vegas is starting off perfect yes yes
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where we're upgrading it to a
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one-bedroom suite hi I'm a high roller
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baby and it's the second time the second
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time it's happened
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it's the disabled suite
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you know with which has a closets that
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to hang your clothes about waist-high if
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you're in a wheelchair this is great
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room but you know the shower I have to
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bend over to if you get disabled sweet
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more than once it happened once ago it
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happened to I remember then but I've
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never seen one of those sweets but this
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but they call it an upgrade it's like I
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want I should have called Donna's excuse
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me did you run out of disabled people to
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upgrade I mean surely there's someone
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with a hump or half a leg who could use
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this you know better than I can
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or maybe and this is the scary part they
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looked at me and went damn we should
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give this guy a disabled suite put them
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over in that room we don't want him
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anywhere near us it's just it's very odd
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you know I'm sure they have to fill up
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the rooms and there's some there's some
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logically outdoor rhythms but why don't
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you move I mean it's not an upgrade for
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me it's yeah so you get a little more
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space and you can everything's got
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handles your bum I mean again if you're
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disabled I can totally dig the vibe of
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this suite but if you're not it just
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makes no sense
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and moreover no one else could use this
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over me I don't understand this was also
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my first trip in Vegas with my hearing
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aids this this was over stimulation to
20:53
the max never thought about it but
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you're right yeah I guess is noisy yeah
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and I think especially the cosmopolitan
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is and I don't know maybe it's me that
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it is it just that they've ramped it up
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more
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and again it's with the hearing aids you
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have to the way I have my hearing aids
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programmed it sounds like this podcast
21:13
everything in my ear sounds great you
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know it's nice compression and sounds
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perfect but when you throw slot machines
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and people and music and all this added
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it sounds like I'm listening to a
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recording of someone reporting on Vegas
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it's just it's just one big massive
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noise and very confused is orienting
21:35
overstimulation moreover the them you
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said twice what did I say Laura / well
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if you say moreover you automatically it
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means once again the mr. Olympia
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conference was in town oh this is how
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you're talking 45,000 muscled people
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muscle-bound dudes
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oh no no couples women couples oh yeah
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everywhere couples I didn't know that
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was a competition oh my goodness yeah
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they're all jacked up now and they seem
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very nice I mean but it's a hobby it's a
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little intimidating Tina's like I don't
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think I'm gonna go workout this morning
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why not well Olympia people of being
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there who the hell wants to work out
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near them you just feel like shit
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yeah that's interesting within the
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elevator etiquette we're at the same
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hotel oh yeah all over our hotel
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everywhere all right and but some
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big-ass people you know just yes they
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get pretty big if they make that life
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and speaking of sports she did it again
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the keeper got the two of us into
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basically one carry-on bag I don't know
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how she does it
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that's that's that's how she got her
22:51
name but man she should do a YouTube
22:53
tutorial on how to pack especially how
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to pack how women should pack yeah I
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can't pack like they're that major
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offenders it's not it's not an offense
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you know Tina's like what get the small
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suitcase well I don't mind slepping a
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bigger one just no okay oh yeah she
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loves it she loves doing this it's a
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sport and she succeeds it's amazing
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after my talented wife so you so how is
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Vegas Vegas is uh besides noisy what'd
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you do buy did you just turn down the
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hearing aids each other yeah no yeah I
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do I went to a very narrow band program
23:34
side to filter everything out so you can
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basically just hear someone talking next
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to you and everything else is like an ad
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in Bruno Mars was fantastic this was at
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the the park the MGM the park theater
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it's like 4,000 seater yeah I think they
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have boxing matches in there yeah what a
23:54
gig that guy has man he shows up in his
23:57
basketball shorts his baseball cap does
24:00
an hour and a half
24:02
crowd loves it's fantastic tight guys
24:05
hit after hit yeah it's just millions
24:08
and millions of dollars you know that I
24:10
was talking to Dame Angela just the the
24:12
money they make on alcohol alone covers
24:15
anything they pay him in Vegas you
24:18
cannot get a drink for under $18 of
24:20
anything with alcohol any what $18 to
24:25
give you free nuts
24:26
oh yeah maybe in the high-rollers that's
24:29
over those days are over
24:31
no there's no more free booze and when
24:33
you're playing the slots no no no no now
24:38
it's it's crazy expensive I mean
24:41
obviously we're on the strip so that
24:43
makes sense but still the hell don't
24:47
really have a need to go back was our
24:48
feeling
24:50
hmm he didn't get to the restaurants you
24:55
told me about although I did find out
24:57
that the I was right the Waldorf Astoria
24:59
which is a new hotel
25:03
in Vegas used to be the Oriental the
25:05
Mandarin no the Mandarin a flopped yeah
25:09
that didn't work I don't know if this
25:10
Waldorf is gonna work either
25:11
it doesn't look shitty like the original
25:13
looks too nice the way the Waldorf in
25:16
New York is a dive I mean I think so at
25:18
least whenever I've been there well I
25:19
was there once maybe twice and it's did
25:23
it's a shabby is the only where you can
25:25
describe it mm-hmm and it's like it's
25:27
got a lot of old gold leaf and snows
25:29
flaked off I mean this is kind of to me
25:32
I've always reminded of the colors gold
25:34
and black hmm
25:36
and it's just had but it's it is the
25:39
hotel has got that underground rail road
25:43
tracted Frank yeah there's a special
25:47
armored vehicle train car and then they
25:51
admit as an elevator takes you right
25:53
into the hotel yes
25:55
and for years I guess reporters couldn't
25:58
understand how Roosevelt was getting in
26:00
and out of the hotel well I guess they
26:02
figured it out now yeah I wanted to
26:06
bring an update on the VAP Wars and then
26:09
I would love to hear from you about the
26:13
debate I was able to watch some of it
26:16
before we took off and you know you have
26:19
the Southwest Wi-Fi in flight I couldn't
26:23
watch it but eventually I was able to
26:24
get an audio stream just the radio some
26:27
radio station was broadcasting it so I
26:29
heard I could not really experience all
26:32
of it it seemed
26:35
what I heard was like kind of this more
26:37
the same I guess I'm sure there were
26:38
some gotcha moments there's just well it
26:41
was more well I was kind of surprised
26:43
and I wish I had this clip which was one
26:46
of the CNN people or I think was CNN we
26:50
said well at least there wasn't you know
26:52
at least they focused on the issues they
26:54
really got down to brass tacks on the
26:56
issues instead of just bashing Trump
26:58
yeah it was bellied it was bashed Trump
27:02
I can't believe they still call it a
27:04
debate let me do this this is a vapor
27:06
update first because there are a couple
27:09
of developments to talk about the vapor
27:11
wars and the first one I mean we've done
27:13
a couple reports on it and I like that
27:16
the No Agenda show is now becoming a
27:18
show prep for other podcasts welcome
27:21
back everybody wealth power and
27:22
influence so glad you're here I'm Jason
27:24
Stapleton with me as always as Matt
27:26
we'll be talking a little bit about the
27:27
debate today we laughing at some of the
27:29
people who were in it and then we're
27:32
going to talk a little bit if we have
27:33
some time about the vaping industry Amy
27:37
came in this morning while we were doing
27:39
show prep and played about a 20 minute
27:41
clip from was the name of the podcast no
27:43
agenda podcast when they were talking
27:45
about the the vaping industry now was
27:49
the name of that you know the name don't
27:51
pretend what was the name of that
27:52
podcast I can't remember was it I used
27:55
to do that all the time here is the
28:00
latest from Utah as the PR continues all
28:04
we have to do is just keep discrediting
28:07
vapes Grant Heller owner of I VAP says
28:10
he became deeply concerned after
28:12
Representative Paul Ray's press
28:14
conference on Wednesday out of the 12
28:16
bottles ten tested positive for opioids
28:20
PCP barbiturates and THC and they're
28:25
talking about vape juice not about th th
28:28
C capsules or anything vape juice from
28:31
the store pillar believes the panel
28:33
tests used to get these results is not
28:36
reliable and shouldn't have been used
28:38
the fact that they were done with the
28:40
ready strip tests shows me that there
28:42
was a different agenda than transparency
28:46
in public health yesterday
28:47
so what they did is and just to throw
28:50
gasoline on the fire they took this vape
28:53
juice and took you know you know what a
28:55
ready strip is John no I don't know
28:59
maybe I do but I don't know doesn't ring
29:02
a bell the ready strip is essentially a
29:05
drug test that parents can use that you
29:08
tell your kid pee in the cup and you dip
29:10
the strip in and then the strip will
29:12
will tell you I think by color what kind
29:15
of drugs your kid is taking but it's not
29:17
meant to dip into vape juice and then
29:20
say oh yeah it looks like there's kratom
29:22
in there come on he an austin-healey
29:27
with peak vape met with Beechtree
29:29
diagnostics on thursday the lab behind
29:31
the test result ABC 4 News was allowed
29:34
inside but they asked us to turn our
29:36
cameras off I wanted to sit down and
29:38
obviously be transparent and try and get
29:41
some transparency out of them I think we
29:43
achieved that today in the meeting the
29:46
owners of beech tree said they don't
29:47
endorse the panel test which is only 40
29:50
percent accurate ray says he
29:52
acknowledged that in his press
29:54
conference
29:54
but still chose to use them as a warning
29:57
to the public to be sold in the state of
30:10
Utah health officials say the state has
30:14
not decided how that rule would be
30:17
enforced yet owners with beech trees say
30:19
a formal statement will be released
30:21
later today and the attorney for beech
30:24
tree Diagnostics decided not to weigh in
30:26
saying in part we've determined not to
30:28
respond in a formal way regarding the
30:30
comments made by representative Ray
30:32
Wednesday afternoon beech tree has no
30:34
position either for or against vaping if
30:37
you're concerned about this issue please
30:39
contact the representative to share your
30:41
concerns but the damage of course was
30:44
already done it was already out there uh
30:46
there's this THC and kratom and opioids
30:49
in your vape juice thanks well done well
30:54
those test strips like anything that's a
30:57
test strip is usually designed for one
30:59
specific purpose yes and it would and if
31:03
it's designed to read your residual
31:06
something in pee it used this is very
31:09
complicated
31:10
because it has to be pee mainly be
31:14
because there's pH levels and certain
31:16
things that the way the chemicals work
31:18
they have to be you know it's just not
31:20
you just can't dip it in gasoline you
31:23
don't expect to get any kind of results
31:27
unless you're running this stuff through
31:29
a chromatograph it's not really it's
31:30
bullshit of course I mean I just I got a
31:33
report apparently vape juice contains
31:35
traces of ranch hand I mean it's crazy
31:37
what's going on these days well that's
31:40
pretty slippery now here's what a couple
31:43
of European publications even Politico
31:45
picked up on this hey how come this is
31:47
missing in Europe where's the vaping
31:49
sickness no one's dying nothing's going
31:51
wrong with vaping in Europe
31:54
maybe it's because they're safer were
31:57
there with the actual THC cartridges
32:01
could be but for sure that's nothing
32:04
wrong with the vape juice over there
32:07
now in this global world these things
32:09
tend to matter a little bit you know
32:11
yeah there's a scam underneath it all
32:14
well we we know that obviously I got the
32:19
patent information oh yeah on the
32:21
vaporizer this was patented by Herbert a
32:24
Gilbert in 1963 it's way way past due
32:29
and it it expired it's it's an expired
32:33
patent so it's pretty much open
32:39
all right it was the trades you got one
32:43
other thing
32:45
well it sounds like you're not
32:46
interested in no I'm interested well you
32:49
made your point well there's a
32:50
documentary about which it came out in
32:54
2016 called a billion lives and this
32:57
documentary I have the trailer I'll play
32:59
a little bit for you then this
33:01
documentary which you know is an award
33:03
winner in one of these palm things
33:05
showed how the tobacco lobby was willing
33:09
well of course that's the documentary
33:10
was willing to put a billion lives in
33:14
jeopardy by trying to stop the vaping
33:18
industry and it's well worth the watch
33:21
I'll just give you a couple seconds of
33:22
the trailer here my whole life I've been
33:26
told that smoking is bad smoking will
33:29
kill you smokers deserve to die I smoked
33:33
for forty years fifteen years I'll go to
33:36
my grave smoking I pretty much thought
33:38
that smoking wasn't thing in the past
33:40
part of history I was wrong
33:43
billion people dying from smoking
33:45
related diseases
33:46
seventy percent of current smokers want
33:48
to quit you trying to fail you trying to
33:50
fail I was shocked when I found out that
33:52
many people are using new ways to quit
33:54
is one of the biggest public health
33:56
breakthroughs we've ever had okay we'll
33:59
do this electricidad it's gonna go to
34:01
the savior alternative to fighting out
34:03
about day I stop those ways were being
34:05
banned in
34:06
or in more countries easy to buy
34:08
cigarettes than to blind a cigarette
34:10
that makes no sense
34:12
governments worldwide are the biggest
34:14
shareholders in the revenue of
34:15
cigarettes dangers of e-cigarettes and
34:18
the public health communities lying
34:19
about those chemicals this is no
34:21
evidence to back that up abroad people
34:23
are gonna die we don't know but we don't
34:26
know antifreeze and other flavors
34:29
antifreeze I'm spent almost a thousand
34:31
shipments right in my hands nobody wants
34:33
to talk about the public needs to know
34:35
the truth about these products and then
34:37
you public health people telling the
34:38
truth about the risks at least ninety
34:40
forest and West recipients were
34:43
responsible a few days destructive
34:46
chance you get the idea it's a good
34:50
documentary to see how the tobacco lobby
34:52
was all against vaping and until they
34:55
were until they were the vaping industry
34:57
and now it's just about getting the
34:59
small guys out yes okay now I'm done
35:01
let's talk about the debates well I did
35:04
want to mention the debit slip is stuff
35:06
like anti-freeze into that that little
35:09
dialogue that's a propagandistic
35:11
neuro-linguistic programming trailer
35:14
this should be abhorrent don't you
35:16
remember that that was out there though
35:18
oh ha this is antifreeze and vape juice
35:20
I remember it I don't I remember a
35:24
member of a pinnate man debates so let's
35:30
start with the thesis that they didn't
35:32
bitch and moan about but Trump bright at
35:35
all mm-hmm so like I just have some
35:38
short clips they gave my minute or a
35:41
minute and a half to open and I have
35:43
four of the opens here that are kind of
35:45
interesting that the most interesting
35:47
and I don't have the whole things
35:48
generally except for koalas but this is
35:51
uh here's here's bado
35:53
does the base bado opening it's an honor
35:57
to be on this debate stage it is
35:58
wonderful to be back in Texas in Houston
36:01
back here at TSU
36:04
on August 3rd in El Paso Texas two
36:08
things became crystal clear for me and I
36:11
think produced a turning point for this
36:14
country the first is just how dangerous
36:16
Donald Trump is the costs and the
36:19
consequence
36:20
of his presidency a racism and violence
36:23
that have long been a part of America
36:25
was welcomed out into the open and
36:27
directed to my hometown of El Paso Texas
36:30
where 22 people were killed dozens more
36:33
grievously injured by a man carrying a
36:36
weapon he should never have been able to
36:38
buy in the first place inspired to kill
36:40
by our president he fries and trumps
36:46
vape juice president don't worry they
36:55
don't apparently didn't hardly mention
36:58
Trump at this debate this is just part
37:04
of the Sanders is the base Sanders
37:06
opening let me be blunt and tell you
37:10
what you don't hear much about in
37:12
Congress or in the media and that is it
37:16
goes without saying that we must and
37:19
will defeat Trump the most dangerous
37:23
president in the history of this country
37:26
I'm glad they didn't bitch about Trump
37:29
no they didn't and so now we have this
37:32
is kamala and this I believe is her a
37:35
whole bit and she just goes everybody
37:39
kind of introduced maybe something they
37:41
were involved with like even bado
37:43
talking about gun control and later you
37:45
know Mon didn't grow anybody we're gonna
37:47
take we're gonna take your guys's with
37:48
the Republicans and said that but here's
37:51
Kamala and her bit and it's just all
37:53
Trump senator Kamala Harris thank you
37:57
it's great to be back at TSU spending
38:00
tonight talking with you about my plans
38:02
to address God the way the way she talks
38:05
I don't even have to see I promise it's
38:08
what is that what is it I'm hearing I'm
38:10
hearing a it's it's it's not a
38:13
laissez-faire it's a it's a prosecutor
38:16
district attorney yes patronizing yes
38:22
condescending thank you I'm spending
38:24
tonight talking with you about my plans
38:27
to address the problems that keep yep
38:29
night but first I have a few words for
38:31
Donald Trump who we all know is watching
38:34
so president Trump you spent the last
38:37
two and a half years full-time trying to
38:40
sow hate and division among us and that
38:43
is why we've got nothing done
38:45
you have used hate intimidation fear and
38:50
over 12,000 lies as a way to distract
38:53
work from your failed policies and your
38:56
broken promises what 12,000 lives I
38:59
didn't understand that 12,000 lies Oh
39:02
lies I thought lies documented lies is
39:05
it 12 thousands this is the official
39:08
number under policies and your broken
39:10
promises the only reason you've not been
39:13
indicted is because there was a memo and
39:16
the Department of Justice that says the
39:18
sitting president cannot be charged with
39:20
a crime but here's what you don't get
39:23
what you don't get is that the American
39:26
people are so much better than this and
39:29
we know that the vast majority of us
39:31
have so much more in common than what
39:33
separates us regardless of our race
39:35
where we live or the party with which
39:37
were registered to vote and I plan on
39:39
focusing on our common issues our common
39:42
hopes and desires and in that way
39:43
unifying our country winning this
39:46
election and turning the page for
39:48
America and now President Trump you can
39:50
go back to watching Fox News now I give
39:54
her a point for saying our country I
39:55
give her a point for that you don't hear
39:57
that often from a Democrat twelve
39:59
thousand lies comes from Washington Post
40:02
or Trump has made more than 12,000 false
40:06
or misleading claims 12k lives matter
40:09
man you know we go to what the one guy
40:16
didn't really bash Trump never spent too
40:18
much time on bashing Trump everybody
40:20
else did which is Gandy's weakens their
40:23
whole position that's okay let them do
40:25
what they want but this one I thought
40:26
was really rude this was Andrew yang who
40:30
comes out and even he z4 he starts off
40:33
by
40:34
by suggesting he's gonna if you go to
40:37
you ain't Andrew yang 2020 dot-com or
40:40
org one of the two you can sign up and
40:43
maybe be one of the thousand to ten
40:45
people ten people that will get a
40:47
thousand dollars a month for a year to
40:49
see what you can do with it this was
40:52
highly anticipated because he had been
40:55
telegraphing mainly on podcasts the only
40:57
place that he can still be heard that he
41:00
was going to do something big something
41:02
unexpected and you know I think it was
41:04
it completely expected he's the
41:06
universal basic income candidate and his
41:10
idea was to show people that you can
41:14
really make it you can be great if I
41:16
give you $1,000 a month but it wasn't
41:18
reported anywhere I saw as linking back
41:21
to the universal basic income they saw
41:23
it purely as a campaign stunt
41:26
it wasn't picked up properly by the
41:27
press well the press was going along
41:31
with the program because the Democrats
41:33
starting on the other side of the all
41:35
the way over he was on the far right on
41:37
the far left the most furthest left was
41:40
Amy Klobuchar and she started giggling
41:43
and then Cory Booker was pretty much
41:46
laughing out loud but he had turned away
41:49
from the mic but he was de falling over
41:51
there and then cam Kamala was it sounds
41:57
like Kamala laughing but from from what
41:59
I could tell it was really that other
42:01
group and it was its Amy Klobuchar whose
42:04
laughs sounds a lot like Tomales so she
42:06
was laughing at ya hear it you'll hear
42:09
it today wait wait wait I'm waiting
42:14
she's laughing Cory but Cory Booker said
42:18
something to her I'm sure because they
42:20
showed up a long shot they showed her
42:22
cracking up and Booker turning his face
42:24
away from the camera so you couldn't
42:26
hear him and then Buddha Jed just next
42:28
to them and he's cracking up he'll cook
42:31
and he'd finalizes it with some comment
42:34
to kind of quell the the joke that was
42:37
that nobody knew about it was really I
42:40
thought incredibly rude well you know
42:43
they're really just laughing at poor
42:44
people
42:46
that could be the element use in America
42:51
today everything revolves around the
42:53
almighty dollar our schools our
42:55
hospitals our media even our government
42:57
it's why we don't trust our institutions
42:59
anymore we have to get our country
43:01
working for us again instead of the
43:03
other way around
43:04
we have to see ourselves as the owners
43:07
and shareholders of this democracy
43:08
rather than inputs into a giant machine
43:12
when you donate money to a presidential
43:15
did someone throw up the Yelp like a
43:18
hyena sign I have no idea what that was
43:21
giant machine when you donate money to a
43:24
presidential campaign what happens the
43:27
politician spends the money on TV ads
43:29
and consultants and you hope it works
43:30
out it's time to trust ourselves more
43:33
than our politicians that's why I'm
43:36
going to do something unprecedented
43:37
tonight my campaign will now give a
43:40
freedom dividend of $1,000 a month for
43:42
an entire year to ten American families
43:45
someone watching this at home right now
43:47
if you believe that you can solve your
43:49
own problems better than any politician
43:51
go to yang 2020 calm and tell us how one
43:54
thousand dollars a month will help you
43:56
do just that
43:57
this is how we will get our country
43:59
working for us again the American people
44:04
now people judge
44:15
she's hi again its original I'll give
44:17
you that
44:19
the American people are divided Wow
44:23
they know exactly what he's doing that
44:25
was rude they know his whole program was
44:29
unbelievably rude tease
44:34
damn
44:35
okay well I was very taken aback by that
44:40
that's your Democrat brethren yang e
44:42
cheese so then we had this little
44:46
back-and-forth there's a couple of short
44:47
clips here this is uh this is where bite
44:50
and calls his point it's talking to
44:52
Sanders and he's pointing to Sanders
44:55
he's talking about and he calls Sanders
44:58
the president taxpayer I hear this large
45:01
savings the president think the my
45:03
friend for Hamas thinks that the
45:05
employer is going to give you back if
45:07
you negotiate his union all these years
45:09
got a cut in wages because you got
45:10
insurance but where did this happen
45:13
before but he called Sanders the
45:15
president no he called he called Booker
45:20
the president this happened before I
45:23
don't know that I don't remember that
45:26
two debates ago I'll see if I can find
45:29
it while you continue and then Castro
45:32
goes ageism and he Castro fuck screwed
45:35
himself he's out of the race now after
45:37
he went after Biden for supposedly
45:41
forgetting something said Biden
45:44
Castro thought Biden said something that
45:47
Biden didn't say and everybody
45:49
documented this and all the news media
45:50
got all over Castro what could okay
45:52
here's here's what I heard read just not
45:56
having seen this part that he that
45:58
apparently Biden said something and then
46:01
Castro said what you don't remember what
46:03
you just said two minutes ago and then
46:04
and then he kept on hammering about it I
46:07
didn't know that it was to me I'd like
46:09
I'm sure Joe Biden said something
46:10
completely dumb that he that
46:12
contradicted himself this case no Wow
46:16
Castro just heard something that didn't
46:18
exist and he started hounding Biden
46:21
about it and he did it in such a way
46:22
that was again incredibly rude and he's
46:25
trying to make points that dead Biden's
46:27
and old fogey doesn't remember anything
46:29
and so I just would have sounded like
46:31
from the Castro site goodbye you just
46:33
said that you just said that two minutes
46:34
ago you just said two minutes ago that
46:37
they would have to buy it and if Paulo
46:38
fire you forgetting what you said of
46:40
Maddox would be in four
46:47
the crowd clearly thought he was not
46:50
doing something good there no and so
46:55
then it was very very rude and then we
46:57
have we have this is bado on immigration
47:02
I thought never wrote this is actually
47:04
about but just play it but you changed
47:09
the debates bado on immigration that's
47:14
uh debates bado and immigrants
47:16
oh here it is yes sir but I think the
47:18
larger question that we're trying to get
47:19
at is how do we rewrite this country's
47:22
immigration laws in our own image in the
47:24
image of Houston Texas the most diverse
47:26
city in the United States of America in
47:30
the image of El Paso Texas one of the
47:31
safest cities in the United States of
47:34
America safe not despite the fact that
47:36
we were a city of immigrants safe
47:38
because we are a city of immigrants Cano
47:40
Samos Chios Muni Dada's us Lopez
47:45
necesitamos Tata cada persona con
47:48
respeto Edina Darin they probably mean
47:50
Allah Allah for one thing he says we got
47:58
to rewrite the immigration laws in our
48:00
own image what does that mean it sounds
48:03
we have to rewrite the immigration laws
48:06
in Houston's image he's speaking in
48:08
tongues I tell you what's wrong with him
48:11
oh there's something wrong with that guy
48:13
now in terms of you something wrong with
48:16
the guy I do have this is that none of
48:19
the basis says Joe Biden this is Joe by
48:22
Joe Biden this is an I so I suggested I
48:27
saw her out of the blue Joe Biden says
48:29
you should put your kids to sleep in
48:31
debt and and and play the record player
48:33
make sure so a record player on at night
48:36
yeah now this got a lot of discussion I
48:38
had a record flavor it's got a lot of
48:40
Acts how many people in the audience
48:42
even know what a record player well I
48:43
saw I saw Symone Sanders who is special
48:48
consultant now she ran Bernie's campaign
48:50
last time around now she with Joe Biden
48:52
and I could I had no way to clip this I
48:55
think it was on joy Reid was filling in
48:57
or something just saw it in the hotel
48:58
and she was saying oh you don't know
49:01
about the vinyl vote that's that's their
49:04
that's their witty comeback is
49:06
apparently there's a vinyl vote people
49:07
who like that - Joe's familiar with this
49:11
is a vinyl vote more like final vote for
49:16
him is he still is he still the front
49:18
what a front-runner yeah of course
49:20
see so the last I had last two clips or
49:23
both the camel a Harris she's going off
49:27
on the camel Harris on Medicare
49:34
everybody on this stage I do believe is
49:38
well-intentioned and once that I gotta
49:43
hear that again body on this stage I do
49:45
believe is well-intentioned and wants
49:50
that all Americans have coverage and
49:52
recognizes that right now 30 million
49:54
Americans don't have coverage but at
49:56
least five people have talked some
49:58
repeatedly on this subject and not once
50:01
if we talked about Donald Trump housing
50:09
we need to we need to low Joe up with
50:11
some more anachronisms like would you
50:13
like to take a picture with your Kodak
50:15
disc you know you gotta have some more
50:16
things like that even though of Kodak
50:19
just during the era of the Kodak disc
50:23
maybe they can fish with the brownie the
50:27
lubuto so here's cameras follow-up to
50:32
her we don't talk about Trump enough no
50:34
no not at all so let's talk about the
50:37
fact that Donald Trump came into office
50:39
and spent almost the entire first year
50:42
of his term trying to get rid of the
50:44
Affordable Care Act we all fought
50:47
against it and then the late great John
50:49
McCain at that moment at about two
50:51
o'clock in the morning kills his
50:56
health care from millions of people in
50:59
this country fast forward to today and
51:01
what is happening Donald Trump's
51:04
Department of Justice is trying to get
51:07
rid of the Affordable Care Act Donald
51:10
Trump's administration is trying to get
51:13
rid of the the ban that we placed on on
51:17
denying people who have pre-existing
51:19
conditions coverage
51:22
that's all she does and then again we go
51:26
back to the CNN pundit who says well at
51:28
least they didn't talk about trauma
51:29
thank goodness
51:30
yeah well that would have been horrible
51:33
that's kind of it it was I got no real I
51:37
mean I think Castro's I think
51:38
everybody's pretty much out of it except
51:40
for the big for the polls to vote for me
51:45
that's my ISO of the day so Joe Biden
51:49
and and he's still the front-runner war
51:53
yeah this is a part I know this is great
51:56
they just wanted these Democrat parties
51:59
decided he's gonna be the guy and the
52:02
Vice President will be the one who takes
52:03
over and get in next so it's gonna be
52:05
interesting how they're gonna make this
52:07
ticket Julian Castro was thought of as
52:09
one of the potential vice presidents but
52:12
he's done now after this ridiculous
52:14
display of arrogance so here's the
52:17
here's the omission that is obvious and
52:19
I think it's been obvious from the
52:21
reports it's been obvious from here a
52:23
summary report nothing from Liz she was
52:28
if this was supposed to be her moment to
52:30
you know to outshine everybody and I'd
52:33
hear nothing did she not have a moment
52:36
of did she not have a she did not do a
52:38
Trump bashing it and her opening so I
52:40
didn't get that mhm and she did mostly
52:44
Liz stuff yeah and she followed as she's
52:47
blue all in with Bernie's uh Medicare
52:50
for all and then she was not standing
52:53
out to me well not to anyone the same
52:57
old same old Liz I mean there was
52:58
nothing specific that she did that was
53:00
exciting
53:01
now can you crimpable now why do you
53:04
think that Castro is over and out just
53:07
because of that
53:11
it's gonna be a bite and ticket buttons
53:13
not gonna put up with a guy like that I
53:14
mean he's why couldn't Castro beat Joe
53:18
Castro can't beat anybody do you'll
53:22
recall when before before Trump by the
53:25
way stop stop I gotta get design I gotta
53:28
go get my notes on this Castro at the
53:31
end of his little beginning he puts on
53:33
this I don't know if you ever seen I
53:34
should go back and clip this and or
53:36
screen you save it Castro has the
53:39
creepiest smile it looks kind of like
53:43
the Joker in the Batman movie smile it's
53:46
incredibly creepy it's went when he
53:49
thinks he's done something great he
53:50
pulls that smile I've seen it it's
53:53
creepy hat is it's a maybe it's like a
53:55
lizard smile reptilian perhaps could be
53:58
good it could be could be I think we
54:01
both have this clip so I'll just play it
54:03
since I thought I have a question about
54:04
ethics
54:06
this is marianne williamson who was not
54:09
at the debate but who was caught on a
54:11
mic this is the question I have about
54:17
ethics she was interviewed on Fox News
54:20
and here's the guy who was interviewing
54:22
her on Fox News introducing the clip
54:26
that he is you know that was done out of
54:29
context off air but he's gonna make it
54:33
said well she was Mike she was a hot mic
54:35
so it's fair game let's play the clip
54:37
and then we'll talk about that
54:39
so last week I interviewed 2020 hopeful
54:41
candidate Marianne Williamson just after
54:44
the interview while still on camera with
54:46
a hot mic this happened what does it say
54:49
that Fox News is nicer to me than the
54:52
lefties are what does it say that the
54:55
Conservatives are nicer to mayor's
54:57
bizarre world man
54:58
it's such a bizarre world you know I'm
55:01
such a lusty I mean I'm a serious lefty
55:03
there's so I understand why people on
55:05
the right call them godless and I mean
55:07
it's like I didn't think the left was as
55:10
mean as the right heart so I find that
55:17
this is a borderline case I mean
55:19
obviously Fox is doing this to show
55:21
because she says hey the lefties are
55:24
a-holes and they're mean but it's really
55:27
insulting and to Marianne Williamson who
55:30
was dumb
55:30
you got you got it you should know
55:32
better and she's clearly not completely
55:36
honest in her own public statements
55:38
otherwise she would have said this
55:39
publicly but ethically I don't think
55:42
it's a very cool thing to do
55:45
with the Aster
55:49
yeah hmm I don't know if they did of
55:52
course
55:55
but what if they didn't sound ethical
55:57
but if they did ask her hey can we use
56:00
this clip you know well yeah sure I'm
56:02
not in the thing anymore
56:03
yeah I think she'd probably agree what
56:05
he says yeah when I said man what
56:07
happened no I don't think so I don't
56:09
think she agreed to it and and I'm
56:12
disappointed because you're objecting to
56:14
it she would have come out and said
56:15
something let's well we'll keep our eye
56:17
on but she's definitely not going to be
56:21
in the fourth debate
56:23
she's out forever she'll never even make
56:25
it on CNN or MSNBC again ever
56:29
probably not but she never made it on
56:31
before I never heard of her
56:33
so it's not as though she was kicking
56:35
ass on the MSNBC wall for years and
56:38
years no no but I know her from the No
56:39
Agenda show so she's she's my favorite
56:41
candidate yes she was there's a lot of
56:45
people say but I want to mention a
56:46
couple of things that are noteworthy
56:48
about the debates overall one is I don't
56:52
know but the psychological effect you
56:55
know this is a problem having too many
56:57
people up there all yelling at each
56:59
other you're yelling and overstepping
57:01
their their time and doing all the rest
57:02
of it is besides doing that which makes
57:05
him look like pet makes him look bitchy
57:07
only because they can't stop talking
57:08
bite and call them out on it once is
57:10
that you're watching this thing going on
57:13
somebody's talking and they stay strays
57:15
their hands like they're fifth-graders
57:16
to get their hand in the air and yeah
57:19
Bernie's got his you know moving his
57:21
hand around like I mean like but
57:24
everyone's holding their hand up call on
57:26
me teacher call on me call on me I mean
57:29
it looks juvenile it makes them look
57:33
unpresidential I mean you're not a
57:35
president if you're a holding your hand
57:37
you never saw a trunk do that and with
57:39
all those other care he would just say
57:41
something funny into the mic can me
57:42
teach me me me me me yeah but you don't
57:45
have these guys holding their hands up
57:46
in the air and bite not bitin but Bernie
57:49
someone who started that years ago even
57:51
when he was just what mano-a-mano with
57:53
Hillary Clinton last he's always stick
57:56
his hand up yeah exactly
57:58
like sixth grade fifth grade yeah it
58:01
calling me calling me well you're gonna
58:04
get called on that's where you're up
58:05
there you don't have to hold your hand
58:07
up how was it just for my own
58:09
edification compared to the cable news
58:13
guys how did ABC do with production did
58:15
you like production in general I mean I
58:16
didn't hear of any audio issues
58:18
everything looked it sounded pretty good
58:20
everything was smooth
58:23
I thought it was you didn't have any
58:25
flaws and if you does what you're
58:26
looking for it was more professional
58:28
yeah than CNN all right
58:31
well Friday night all hell broke loose
58:35
on the Bill Maher's Bill Maher show on
58:38
HBO they had to bring out the big guns
58:41
after the debate they bring out Michael
58:43
Moore of course I got a couple clips
58:48
here just so you can hear how the the
58:51
big guns so this is Michael Moore and
58:53
Bill Maher together they definitely
58:54
represent a section of the Democrat part
58:58
of the Democrat voting base and I think
59:02
the well Bill Maher's actually appears
59:06
to be a little more level-headed in this
59:07
as you listen to what Michael Moore is
59:10
saying about the Democrats and what they
59:12
stand for and what's gonna work the
59:14
country is for raising the minimum wage
59:16
of course the country is not for
59:18
Medicare for all is so did you ask the
59:20
question get rid of private health
59:22
insurance I mean Barack Obama said if
59:24
you like your doctor you can keep your
59:26
dog into insanity not true for only 2%
59:29
of the population and the whole country
59:31
went apeshit about the 2% right now are
59:33
you gonna take away everybody's well
59:35
completely get rid of arrived it even
59:37
though there are so many things to fix
59:38
the bottle bomb you don't like that
59:39
that'll don't like that no they like the
59:41
fact that their 26 year old can still be
59:44
covered nice Obamacare that's that's
59:46
Obama like the things about Obamacare
59:47
but right but they didn't go far enough
59:49
and and we've got 30 million people that
59:52
are uninsured we've got 50 more billion
59:54
as net are underinsured that that is
59:56
velocity points out Obamacare is a
59:59
better benefit the Medicare for all
1:00:01
doesn't play for pay for catastrophic
1:00:02
you got to do that you built we're going
1:00:04
to be true we're going to do trunk well
1:00:06
that's not I'm going to say no and I'll
1:00:16
see if the election okay say let us the
1:00:18
election were tonight Trump would win
1:00:19
how about that woo
1:00:20
all right this how dangerous it is does
1:00:23
every would be so you see look at the
1:00:25
same reaction when I said that three
1:00:26
years ago
1:00:27
ya know now don't say that you have to
1:00:30
respect the evil genius of this guy
1:00:38
he's gone crazy now the evil gee he's
1:00:41
using Trump's words which is interesting
1:00:43
how deeply embedded that is yeah and
1:00:46
this wait a minute the guys I'm
1:00:48
supposedly a moron who doesn't even have
1:00:51
any money but now he's an evil genius
1:00:53
did the same thing with Bush Bush was
1:00:56
the either a moron or an evil genius of
1:00:59
an antichrist I mean come on make up
1:01:01
your minds about these images in the
1:01:03
next that clip here is about the squad
1:01:06
which i think is universally accepted
1:01:10
that trump has been doing a pretty good
1:01:13
job of positioning them as the face of
1:01:16
the new democrat and the democrat party
1:01:18
which logically i think it turns off a
1:01:22
lot of voters not according to Michael
1:01:24
Moore though he wants to make the squad
1:01:28
the face of the Democratic Party I know
1:01:30
one other person who wants to do that
1:01:32
you yes will win let me tell you 70% of
1:01:39
the people who are gonna vote next year
1:01:40
are either women people of color or
1:01:42
young adults between 18 and 35 that's
1:01:45
70% of the electorate women people of
1:01:47
color young adults we should be
1:01:50
appealing to them and if you're saying
1:01:51
okay you don't like those women because
1:01:53
they're you know you don't see thing yes
1:01:58
exactly but what do you say they are not
1:02:01
power to hate they're not populist I'm
1:02:04
true always love them people of color
1:02:06
love them women love them this is the
1:02:10
most bigoted conversation I've ever
1:02:13
heard he's literally saying because
1:02:15
they're women women love them because
1:02:17
they're brown people of color love them
1:02:20
is this guy on drugs
1:02:22
he's bigoted who thinks like this
1:02:27
anymore uh they're brown people of color
1:02:30
will love them it's a head shake the
1:02:32
entire electorate one of them has an
1:02:34
approval rating above 25% so you're
1:02:37
making this up they're not beloved these
1:02:39
people because they don't believe in
1:02:41
things that a lot of people believe in
1:02:43
like what not Medicare for all
1:02:46
and people do believe in Medicare for
1:02:48
all people do believe it if you're out
1:02:54
there with people this people do believe
1:02:55
this that's why all the candidates have
1:02:58
tried to sign on but they did when they
1:03:00
called Nancy Pelosi a racist you know
1:03:03
they think they go too far and I think
1:03:05
they're good too for another bitch yes
1:03:06
what and and young people go too far you
1:03:09
know always romanticizing the young
1:03:14
people everybody looks good when they're
1:03:15
young because they're not empowered
1:03:16
enough to make decisions you know when
1:03:20
they get to our age they'll be assholes
1:03:22
too yeah Michael Moore really believes
1:03:29
the squad can do it ladies and gentlemen
1:03:31
this squad can people love them women
1:03:34
love them because they're women people
1:03:37
of color love them because they're brown
1:03:39
I'm come on bigot Mario throw weird
1:03:43
stuff into he had this thing earlier in
1:03:45
this first clip where he said that the
1:03:48
Obama you can keep your own doctor thing
1:03:51
which turned out to be bullcrap yeah
1:03:55
this is that he says but it's only
1:03:57
affected 2% of everybody that they
1:04:00
couldn't keep drone die he's implying
1:04:02
that only 2% of the people could don't
1:04:04
keep their own doctor yeah I'm I'm sorry
1:04:07
couldn't keep it on target or anybody
1:04:09
else could keep drone that's bullcrap
1:04:11
it's in California which is a good part
1:04:14
of the entire public the entire
1:04:16
population of the entire country which
1:04:18
is more than 2% you can't it is all
1:04:21
based on networks yeah you have to be in
1:04:25
the network if there's your doctors not
1:04:27
in the network yeah you can keep him but
1:04:30
you're gonna have to pay him and in
1:04:32
California that's not even true let me
1:04:34
maybe another places but in California
1:04:35
cuz we had a good my daughter wanted to
1:04:38
go see a dermatologist that we always
1:04:41
used and she's part of Cal care or
1:04:43
whatever the Obamacare networking the
1:04:46
Obamacare implementation is in
1:04:48
California she's part of that and not
1:04:51
only did the doctor refused to take her
1:04:54
I said well what if I just pay cash too
1:04:56
you know in California is illegal too
1:05:00
yes Wow I didn't realize that yeah if
1:05:04
you in other words I got a doctor I just
1:05:06
gonna hey if I was if you're not part of
1:05:08
Cal Cal kid whatever it is Cali can
1:05:10
however they call it Cal man Oh Cal
1:05:12
cuddles whatever it is if you're in that
1:05:16
system which is the Obamacare uh you
1:05:20
can't do that you can't pay cash if you
1:05:23
weren't in the system you're just an
1:05:24
individual like me you could you can you
1:05:28
can't do it but if you're part of
1:05:29
because they want to discourage people
1:05:32
from going outside the network well as a
1:05:34
zealot
1:05:35
discourage it by fining it the doctor
1:05:37
and dead throwing him out so he says no
1:05:40
no no no I can't even touch this this
1:05:41
client as we discussed when Obamacare
1:05:44
was just cranking up that the insurance
1:05:47
companies are such rat bastards that
1:05:49
they squeeze the doctors down to 30
1:05:52
cents on the dollar and I have
1:05:54
personally witnessed if you go into the
1:05:56
doctor's office not in California
1:05:58
apparently and you say you know what
1:05:59
I'll pay cash I'll pay you 30 cents on
1:06:02
the dollar they'll usually settle for 50
1:06:03
they will because they have that it
1:06:06
takes them weeks phone calls emails you
1:06:10
know they have to show pay all this
1:06:11
paperwork just to get paid I mean while
1:06:14
you've already paid your you were
1:06:15
basically paid for it with your with
1:06:18
your deductible because that's on a
1:06:21
hundred percent not thirty percent so
1:06:23
you're paying for everything yourself
1:06:24
you're paying double but that's that's
1:06:26
legal here I had no idea that that was
1:06:28
outlawed in California you cannot pay
1:06:30
the doctor directly how can that be
1:06:32
that's that's why it's is it a law or is
1:06:35
it just the insurance and whether the
1:06:37
way the laws are written cheese well if
1:06:40
you want to hear something I could look
1:06:41
into it more and write something my god
1:06:42
you know it's really it is really
1:06:45
because the guy refused to take the
1:06:48
appointment you can't you can't this
1:06:51
allows someone from enacting legal
1:06:54
commerce pretty you can well in
1:06:57
California everything's possible
1:07:00
he thinks possible in California final
1:07:03
clip just to hear some more fact free
1:07:05
stuff and just how off the rails this
1:07:08
group is gone they had that little end
1:07:11
discussion so we have Michael Moore was
1:07:14
the guy that used to run the the RNC
1:07:19
the black guy yeah yeah steel yes do is
1:07:22
on a crystal ball and they're talking
1:07:28
about uh what is this clip oh yeah this
1:07:33
is this is mainly about Mahler and about
1:07:35
you know the molar report and how that
1:07:38
all fell apart and it's just funny to
1:07:40
hear the heads explode they built up
1:07:42
expectations so much when the report
1:07:45
came you were like oh no big deal with
1:07:48
like anything shortness he taped with
1:07:51
nothing right well the person who
1:07:53
shipped the bed was Robert Muller
1:07:55
he can't even go after the taxes
1:07:57
seriously that's your investigative
1:07:59
technique don't follow the money this
1:08:10
hero and shit the bed shit the bed I did
1:08:13
the campaign manager the deputy campaign
1:08:15
manager the hook the presidential mo
1:08:19
fucking memo not a law not in the
1:08:21
Constitution just a memo we did a whole
1:08:24
thing on this remember that night right
1:08:26
after can I agree with you but he laid
1:08:29
it on a platter from he didn't have to
1:08:34
sir got the taxes legal genius of Rudy
1:08:37
Giuliani was able to protect Trump the
1:08:44
whole thing is the taxes the reason why
1:08:46
he may be a Russian asset and just he's
1:08:47
the worst businessman ever so at a
1:08:50
certain point the only people who give
1:08:51
money of the Russians that's you know
1:08:54
what while her mother didn't establish
1:08:57
collusion per se because it's a
1:08:58
technical term he showed clear
1:09:00
coordination between the campaign and
1:09:02
the other I think he did his job could
1:09:04
he have done more sure he do enough
1:09:09
overhyped
1:09:10
and they're not alone right there are
1:09:12
plenty of people who were involved in
1:09:14
the overhyping of this but then what he
1:09:15
did find the facts were not enough for a
1:09:18
public that expected like Barry said
1:09:20
that they were gonna get the P tape my
1:09:21
quick take on all of it was everything
1:09:23
everybody said is absolutely right but
1:09:26
here's the rub at the end of the day
1:09:28
the Democrats in Congress the media
1:09:30
allowed the Attorney General to come out
1:09:34
and define the narrative before yes so
1:09:38
at that point folks it didn't matter
1:09:39
what was in the report because we were
1:09:42
told there's nothing here follow what is
1:09:46
this bullshit about like we did not find
1:09:51
out of control
1:09:57
they're mad and and Mahler and what is
1:10:01
this I've heard the term but what is the
1:10:03
etymology of shit the bed and what does
1:10:06
this come from debt apologies but it is
1:10:08
an old term yeah let me just you know
1:10:11
your screws yeah so that's where their
1:10:14
heads are still at oh they're yeah
1:10:17
you're ready doing that Migdal is too
1:10:19
big yeah whatever happened I thought you
1:10:21
meant just that crystal ball she you
1:10:23
know she works for the hill she does
1:10:24
some online video stuff she is and she's
1:10:27
lost her she's anti MSNBC now that she's
1:10:30
no longer there yeah she got kicked off
1:10:33
and she's yeah and I think Mar brings
1:10:37
not because she's kind of his style cute
1:10:39
and oh right
1:10:41
that meet brings these women on he
1:10:43
brings Hannah Coulter on a lot he's got
1:10:45
some thing about her too but did
1:10:48
reminded me whatever happened to that
1:10:50
guy - ray remember him yeah where is -
1:10:54
ray yeah okay enough thinking about it I
1:10:59
only thought you think about him for a
1:11:01
second or two - ray he was the worst and
1:11:05
she was on the show with him right he we
1:11:07
had an a he even had an didn't he have
1:11:09
was that show MSNBC show yeah miss MBA
1:11:14
miss NBC show - ray I don't know he's
1:11:19
not what I see here as a former
1:11:22
MSNBC host just a quick little oh wait
1:11:27
Ghent Dateline January 11th former MSNBC
1:11:32
host to raid niblet accused of sexual
1:11:35
harassment I have learned and grown how
1:11:38
he got me to do
1:11:40
oh well that didn't get much much girl
1:11:44
interesting that didn't get much play at
1:11:46
oh I don't recall it I don't recall it
1:11:49
we would have recalled that if we even
1:11:50
got a hint we would have bloated but no
1:11:52
so yes we would have bloated me got me
1:11:55
to doubt that's interesting he chewed
1:11:56
the hell out of here and with that I'd
1:11:59
like to thank you for your courage and
1:12:00
say in the morning to you the man who
1:12:02
put the C in Castro is out John C Dvorak
1:12:06
well in the morning you miss Adam
1:12:08
Corolla in the morning all ships at sea
1:12:10
boots on the ground feet in the air subs
1:12:11
in the water and all the Dames and
1:12:14
nights out hello trolls I see you there
1:12:17
in the troll room a in the morning to
1:12:18
you that's right no agenda stream comm
1:12:21
is where you can listen to this show
1:12:23
live I'm gonna see how many trolls we
1:12:25
got in there today it seems like oh wait
1:12:28
that's the wrong one let me see we've
1:12:30
got today oh nice nice crowd eleven
1:12:34
hundred and thirty six trolls with their
1:12:36
polls handing off one-liners it's
1:12:39
appreciated you can listen to that 24
1:12:41
hours a day seven days a week that's the
1:12:43
stream and chat along with troll along
1:12:45
as you wish also in the morning to our
1:12:49
artists who brought us the artwork for
1:12:50
episode 11 72 the title that was vape
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goat
1:12:53
this was Nick the rat who's back and
1:12:55
were happy to see him that he has been
1:12:57
submitting for a while and he just he
1:12:59
nailed it with his NPR national
1:13:01
propaganda radio with the logo and of
1:13:05
course that was meant to play into our
1:13:09
reporting of the new CEO of NPR who is
1:13:13
clearly a spook and worked for the
1:13:15
spooktacular Voice of America and Radio
1:13:19
Free Liberty which are propaganda
1:13:22
stations the United States operates the
1:13:25
broadcast Board of Governors and there
1:13:28
was I think there was some stuff we
1:13:30
needed to discuss because there were
1:13:32
some other
1:13:34
candidates let me just check the artwork
1:13:36
real quick we had a couple there was
1:13:40
just one the CIA one that Deb O'Neil did
1:13:43
but I always thought that the NIC one
1:13:45
was the best it was a little more subtle
1:13:47
yeah it was it's just it worked
1:13:49
it wasn't very subtle but it was CIA
1:13:55
less true it's more subtle than that
1:13:57
yeah there were other stuff that was
1:14:00
just the one that jumped out we both
1:14:02
liked it immediately so and worked well
1:14:04
and we've been happy for Nick thank you
1:14:06
of course to all of our artists who
1:14:08
submitted artwork and they do it while
1:14:10
we're doing the shows it's quite amazing
1:14:13
how how they get this work done and you
1:14:15
can check it out for yourself but no
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agenda art generator calm and you could
1:14:19
submit if you want to and if it's not
1:14:21
used in album artwork these things often
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make it into newsletters and even on
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comm and you could make a piece of the
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money of those sold so check out no
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agenda our generator , Thank You Nick
1:14:33
the rat and all of our artists there for
1:14:35
your valuable contribution we have a few
1:14:39
executive and associated executive
1:14:41
producers to thank for showed 1173
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starting with Tony Cabrera with 442
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dollars and 89 cents and this is the no
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agenda shop we just mentioned checking
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in with the latest share of our sales 3
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dollars and 33 cents for every item we
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sell is donated to the show and three
1:14:59
dollars and 33 cents goes to the artist
1:15:01
whose work is featured on that item
1:15:04
thank you for the little bookkeeping
1:15:07
involved it's good for delivering a
1:15:09
priceless show that motivates me to keep
1:15:11
the shop up as long as the realities of
1:15:13
capitalism allow that's three years in
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County so far just requesting al
1:15:20
sharpton quote followed by that's true
1:15:22
and no karma I'm gonna give him a karma
1:15:25
because they've been operating the shop
1:15:27
and we appreciate it thanks Tony
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great work over there no agenda shop
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calm
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[Music]
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okay next is Heather futanari in
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Fullerton driana $33.33 she said please
1:15:50
accept it she actually sent it let me
1:15:52
see this email differs from what does
1:15:54
she got here she sent an email and
1:15:55
claiming that the note wasn't taken I'll
1:15:59
read this while you're looking for it
1:16:00
yeah please oh I got it
1:16:04
please accept this payment is my flesh
1:16:06
as my last towards name hood as we close
1:16:09
our palindrome week and ready myself to
1:16:11
reconnect with some amazing folks we met
1:16:14
during the infamous or Orange County
1:16:17
Meetup I thought this was the perfect
1:16:19
time to seal the deal for five years of
1:16:21
donations also it's been a year since my
1:16:23
last donation of 3 3333 which I made in
1:16:27
desperation of jobs karma a year later I
1:16:30
find myself flourishing in that position
1:16:33
films camera works though jingles no
1:16:36
karma just a side of hi-yah
1:16:40
ayahuasca ayahuasca what is ayahuasca
1:16:46
don't worry I'll put it at the
1:16:47
roundtable just stay away from it it's
1:16:49
not for you at the already bountiful
1:16:52
round table please anoint me Dame
1:16:55
swagger Prince of the orange curtain
1:16:58
73's Heather kk6 Mme ah 73's kilo 5
1:17:02
alpha Charlie Charlie with a twist the
1:17:05
goat
1:17:05
you've got ayahuasca was noir karma she
1:17:12
asked for by the way no she said she she
1:17:14
I thought she wanted a karma no no Jane
1:17:17
it was no karma I'm sorry I can't take
1:17:19
it back now I don't know how you'd take
1:17:21
it back I can't I can't
1:17:23
I've ruined we do this that karma is for
1:17:26
David Julien congratulations for $333
1:17:30
know he says n J and K he doesn't want
1:17:32
Chloe he doesn't want it either no email
1:17:35
sent to Adam
1:17:37
kisses sir Julianne Earl of the South
1:17:39
Bay and autonomous cars you have the
1:17:41
email let me see I believe I do
1:17:46
mmm you should send a email about the
1:17:50
recipe yeah no I I don't see it I know
1:17:54
that I for I forward everything that
1:17:56
comes into Eric's oh no I don't see this
1:17:59
I'm sorry I do not see a note from him
1:18:03
well O'Dell what's David Julian I'm
1:18:05
sorry that'll make it a little easier
1:18:07
and let's try
1:18:09
and who knows how the hell these systems
1:18:12
work you know all I have is notes from
1:18:17
the shill saying he would send the note
1:18:19
I don't have it
1:18:20
sorry so send it again David Brian
1:18:23
Brady's next on the list with the two
1:18:24
hundred thirty four dollars and fifty
1:18:26
six cents two three four five six in
1:18:27
Pittsburgh Pennsylvania here's the
1:18:30
lowdown on the Pittsburgh meetup
1:18:31
provided with the donation because I
1:18:33
felt bad rambling too much without
1:18:34
chipping in I flew a bit too close to
1:18:37
the Sun trying to combine a soccer game
1:18:40
and a bar meet up into one so the day
1:18:42
before we decided just to go to the same
1:18:44
bar where producer ma held the inaugural
1:18:46
meet up we ended up with ten people nine
1:18:48
adults in the fat first child attendee
1:18:51
in Pittsburgh meetup history well even
1:18:53
though four of the nine adults were
1:18:54
attending their tried take notes even
1:18:58
though four of the nine adults were
1:18:59
attending their first meetup within ten
1:19:01
minutes we were all talking and laughing
1:19:03
like we had known each other for years
1:19:04
there's something truly magical about
1:19:06
the people bonding over calling one
1:19:08
another douchebag had to own up to
1:19:12
hitting my mother in the mouth during a
1:19:13
car ride back from Nashville
1:19:15
Doug fitler was kind enough to provide
1:19:18
the high-res heads on sticks so we got
1:19:21
some great group photos with both of you
1:19:23
into them we also informally decided to
1:19:25
make the meet up on a periodically
1:19:27
occurring event and are going to keep
1:19:29
the notebooks we brought four letters to
1:19:32
you two until we fill them up then send
1:19:34
them no I think my fellow Pittsburgh
1:19:36
producers from both meetups or with me
1:19:39
wholeheartedly in expressing our
1:19:41
gratitude for the show and what it has
1:19:44
grown into hell I even got a new
1:19:46
shooting range buddy out of this Meetup
1:19:49
good I think I'll go to Pittsburgh to go
1:19:51
shooting think about this though there's
1:19:54
ten people
1:19:56
who not only like the No Agenda show in
1:19:59
Pittsburgh enough to come out to a meet
1:20:01
up but also like soccer and this is some
1:20:04
news right here
1:20:05
I find it distressing personally I think
1:20:09
it's great it's probably a smart idea
1:20:11
they went back to the original venue
1:20:13
these things kind of tend to stick
1:20:14
unless the yeah unless the venue was
1:20:17
really bad for some reason but I'm glad
1:20:19
a good one in Oakland we're never going
1:20:22
back Sir Peter the high powered vanilla
1:20:26
ham in abstract the high powered vanilla
1:20:31
hammerheads Oh al I guess ham
1:20:34
hammerheads a two 3333 from Holland and
1:20:40
he says dear Guardians of reality from
1:20:45
behind the great Chinese firewall always
1:20:48
in China
1:20:48
I finally had it my smoking-hot
1:20:51
girlfriends douchebaggery must stop now
1:20:54
at first she thought the show was lame I
1:20:58
support your show is saying that show is
1:21:01
lame I support your advice would never
1:21:05
mentioned this show on any first date
1:21:06
but now she keeps me awake with her
1:21:09
laughter and comments until I she hasn't
1:21:11
even though she hasn't supported this
1:21:14
show so in other words it was lame but
1:21:16
now she thinks it's hilarious okay which
1:21:18
it is this must come to an end
1:21:21
currently we are on a four-week cycling
1:21:23
trip in China
1:21:24
Yunnan and Tibet whoa and almost
1:21:27
everything is firewalled wait a minute
1:21:30
this is like hikers in China where these
1:21:32
guys spooks
1:21:33
yeah we're cycling well maybe they're
1:21:37
glove they're cycling near the North
1:21:38
Korean border I'd be more suspicious but
1:21:40
no I know people that do this sort of
1:21:42
thing let's go to China and cycle ah I'm
1:21:49
sure our producers don't sound like that
1:21:54
well they can't hear us in any way
1:21:56
because they're in their their
1:21:58
firewalled yeah so hard to get some
1:22:00
decent information is beautiful by the
1:22:02
way and the people are nice that's true
1:22:04
that's true love and lights repeat at
1:22:07
the high-power vanilla hammerheads
1:22:09
and aim to become Inga I think I can
1:22:13
insult weird characters it's true China
1:22:17
asshole asshole yeah true China ass
1:22:20
asshole
1:22:21
and goat Karma now I want to mention
1:22:24
something people go into China in China
1:22:27
it's and I've said this on the show
1:22:29
before but apparently nobody loses their
1:22:31
reason show and every minute of it when
1:22:34
you're in China or most of these Asian
1:22:36
countries I'll make sure you have a
1:22:39
little notebook and you carry that and
1:22:40
you have people write stuff in Chinese
1:22:43
on it in other words you're at a hotel
1:22:44
you go to the concierge say I'm gonna go
1:22:46
here here here in here here and they
1:22:48
have them write it in Chinese on
1:22:50
different pages and then you have a
1:22:52
little note at the bottom saying what it
1:22:53
is like the stole or and then they have
1:22:56
right and then you used that notepad to
1:22:59
get around because in China itself they
1:23:01
don't all speak the same language that's
1:23:03
all dialects and they can't understand
1:23:04
each other necessarily but they all have
1:23:06
the same written language so it's very
1:23:08
common for even Chinese to use this
1:23:10
trick of having the notepad full of
1:23:13
little notes best to be small and you
1:23:15
hold it up to it like a taxi cab driver
1:23:17
and you just show it to him and his fine
1:23:19
is good to go the more you know in the
1:23:22
morning you've got Kevin Benson
1:23:35
Australia $230 long time overboard
1:23:40
produced with six six six six six so for
1:23:45
putting in Australian three three three
1:23:46
and a few pennies to make the final jump
1:23:49
into sanity would love a little girl yay
1:23:51
to mark this moment is he gonna be yeah
1:23:56
he's being knighted today yep he's on
1:23:58
the list
1:23:59
well he's blue I thought he was on the
1:24:02
list let me just double check produced
1:24:04
marks my move out of Sydney to better
1:24:06
places and more time for listening to no
1:24:08
agenda as I move to Kiama in the south
1:24:11
of Sydney don't know where that is I
1:24:13
would like to claim sir Kevin or
1:24:15
something protector of qiyama blowhole
1:24:19
yes it's
1:24:23
as you look it up no I've not looked it
1:24:25
up but he's on the list I didn't look up
1:24:26
his keyaki i'ma blow I'm not gonna look
1:24:29
up any blowhole I saw there was a blue
1:24:32
there's a blowhole in Iceland it's
1:24:33
fascinating there's a beer what a
1:24:37
blowhole is it's generally something
1:24:39
where a bunch of water rushes in and
1:24:41
it's not a geyser per se which is caused
1:24:44
by boiling water it's just such tide
1:24:47
comes in and in boom and blowhole yeah
1:24:50
it's the water and I'm looking at it now
1:24:52
apparently it's dangerous this is a
1:24:54
danger always dangerous yeah yeah
1:24:58
qiyamah blowhole just sounds lewd it
1:25:03
does no special favors to include I eat
1:25:06
most things that fall on the floor I'm
1:25:09
also a cheap drunk but I do call out
1:25:12
Bruce Johnson of Cape Town South Africa
1:25:15
as a douchebag he listens he keeps all
1:25:21
his ran tightly stuffed up his ass
1:25:31
well Kevin we'll see you at the at the
1:25:33
round table and well I guess we'll just
1:25:36
leave some scraps on the floor for you
1:25:38
for you to enjoy along with your hookers
1:25:40
and Lil Oh Kevin Benson $233 the next
1:25:45
one doctor sorry sir and your protector
1:25:48
of the bound book in Ann Arbor Michigan
1:25:49
200 $22.22 Sir Andrew of the bound book
1:25:54
here nudging over every closer - baronet
1:25:57
would be grateful for a booster of
1:25:58
health karma to get past some nagging
1:26:00
issues thanks for all the hard work
1:26:02
gentlemen
1:26:03
you bet here it is ready you've got
1:26:06
karma last but not least is Daniel
1:26:10
Roberts 211 dollars and 20 cents from
1:26:13
the US parts unknown this is my first
1:26:16
executive producer contribution ever and
1:26:18
I've been on a modest subscription for a
1:26:19
few years now with larger contributions
1:26:21
interspersed throughout this shows value
1:26:24
to me is far greater than I've been able
1:26:26
to budget for first I'd greatly
1:26:28
appreciated jobs come with a dash of
1:26:31
goat as my current gig has been pretty
1:26:34
tough lately
1:26:36
I sent both of you the investigate
1:26:38
Childebert shirt he is our guy mm-hmm
1:26:41
that Adam mentioned Thursday and I'd
1:26:43
like to offer a bit of explanation yes
1:26:45
shelter Berg is a small annual weekend
1:26:48
camping event that will be at em along
1:26:51
Metro Park in Austin Texas May 23 to 26
1:26:55
on 2020 you have to go how could I not
1:26:58
it's open to any self-identified lover
1:27:01
of Liberty no no no maybe not regardless
1:27:06
of political affiliation it will can
1:27:09
coincide with the libertarian National
1:27:11
Convention in Austin you have to go to
1:27:13
that and there will be so business
1:27:15
crossover I would be busy
1:27:16
well the libertarian party nerds are
1:27:19
playing third string politics will be
1:27:22
grilling having at the time free to
1:27:27
chill children burgers but we'll be
1:27:30
accepting donations for free org he's
1:27:36
the Ross Ulbricht the the Bitcoin drug
1:27:42
platform was that called again I'd
1:27:44
forgot no I've forgotten to Adam if you
1:27:46
want to swing by for some burgers or
1:27:48
even camp tonight Silk Road yeah you can
1:27:52
camp tonight in Austin anywhere there
1:27:54
will be at least a handful of producers
1:27:55
in the tennis that I know of who already
1:27:58
would love so much to see you may be
1:28:01
enough for an impromptu to meet up John
1:28:03
we'd love to have you two if you wanted
1:28:05
to make the trek any was at childer burg
1:28:09
on twitter yes yes I actually did look
1:28:12
this up because I saw people were
1:28:15
tweeting and mentioning me and in there
1:28:17
tagging me about chill DeBerg and how
1:28:20
funny it was that of course yeah it's
1:28:29
can I bring my record player um sounds
1:28:33
like a pretty fun event if we're gonna
1:28:35
be you know thrown some burgers on and
1:28:37
and in hanging out I'm not gonna camp
1:28:40
but I can definitely go envious I don't
1:28:42
know how far the metro price is not that
1:28:43
far and get there yeah for sure I'll go
1:28:47
I'll rep
1:28:47
that should be fun
1:28:50
you
1:28:52
the Silk Road was Ross Ulbricht Bitcoin
1:28:57
platform remember I even bought drugs
1:28:59
off of there with Bitcoin don't you
1:29:00
remember we did all that
1:29:03
hello yes you did I remember that you
1:29:06
never said what the drugs were well no I
1:29:09
don't want to go to jail or didn't at
1:29:11
the time at least
1:29:12
well anyway Thank You Daniel and you
1:29:14
become an associate executive producer
1:29:16
along with your other cohorts and of
1:29:18
course our one two was pretty
1:29:21
even-keeled here we got three executive
1:29:24
producers very nice these are valuable
1:29:25
credits because they're real you can use
1:29:27
them anywhere credits or recognize and
1:29:30
we suggest putting those on your profile
1:29:32
certainly on your LinkedIn profile you
1:29:33
are executive producer or as it is
1:29:36
associate executive producer of the No
1:29:38
Agenda podcast you can say no agenda
1:29:40
show episode 1 1 7 3 and we thank you
1:29:43
for your courage and anyone who wants to
1:29:46
be in this illustrious line up for
1:29:47
Sunday show can do so by going to Duvall
1:29:49
red dot org slash and well now at least
1:29:53
we know where Jill DeBerg is you can go
1:29:55
out tell everybody as you propagate the
1:29:57
formula formula is this we go out we hit
1:30:01
people in the mouth
1:30:10
[Music]
1:30:16
while we're talking about Austin Texas
1:30:19
little unhoused update as the war on the
1:30:24
homeless continues it looks like in
1:30:28
Austin the people of Austin are making
1:30:30
some headway
1:30:32
so council members and kitchen and Kathy
1:30:34
tovo submitted one plan and then
1:30:35
councilmember Greg kisara and Mayor
1:30:37
Steve Adler submitted another plan
1:30:39
but the biggest takeaway from both plans
1:30:41
is that there are more agreements here
1:30:43
than differences
1:30:44
so both plans will limit sitting lying
1:30:47
or camping on sidewalks in busy parts of
1:30:49
downtown like sixth Street and Congress
1:30:51
Avenue and around some of the homeless
1:30:53
shelters but the kitchen tovo plan takes
1:30:56
it a bit farther and includes the drag
1:30:58
in parts of UT's West Campus it also
1:31:00
includes Parsa parts of East Austin like
1:31:02
11th and 12th streets I spoke with both
1:31:05
council members cat kitchen and tovo and
1:31:08
kitchen tells me this all boils down to
1:31:09
ensuring safety for everyone saying that
1:31:12
it is ok to camp or even or sit and lie
1:31:16
in areas that are not saying it's not
1:31:19
good for anyone and I don't consider
1:31:22
that that's not discriminatory
1:31:25
the plan that councilmember kisara mayor
1:31:27
Adler support is based off of 2010 map
1:31:30
it shows where people can't ride their
1:31:31
bikes on sidewalks now this map is
1:31:34
primarily focused on the downtown area
1:31:36
so it doesn't really include any
1:31:38
restrictions in West Campus apart from a
1:31:40
section of the drag or in areas in East
1:31:43
Austin mayor Adler tells me he knows the
1:31:46
map is outdated but he says it's still a
1:31:48
good starting point the city's
1:31:50
identified sidewalks that have so much
1:31:53
traffic on them that they shouldn't have
1:31:55
bicycles on them how sick is all this
1:32:00
these people name just the way I heard
1:32:03
it kitchen somebody's name kitchen toboe
1:32:07
and Kassar I mean is there any normal
1:32:10
names in Austin where these where
1:32:12
somebody named kitchen come from I don't
1:32:15
recognize this you heard the name
1:32:17
kitchen yeah kitchen and tobo heard I
1:32:25
only know I know our our councilmember
1:32:30
is P oh let me see kitchen and kitchen
1:32:35
you're right and kitchen she's district
1:32:36
5 and she I think is the isn't she the
1:32:40
mayor temp or whatever it is I think
1:32:42
she's tempera asking me he may it may or
1:32:44
tempora she and I think her crispy
1:32:47
tempura he's male mayor tempore for the
1:32:50
Japanese exactly this is really code
1:32:57
oboe or whatever that other person is
1:32:58
there's another council these are all
1:33:00
council members well but but the what's
1:33:04
mind-boggling is how about the sidewalks
1:33:07
being used for what they were built for
1:33:09
we had I watched we walking yes we have
1:33:13
the scooters on the sidewalk riding on
1:33:16
the Skywalk part I mean they're all
1:33:18
these rules about where you can park
1:33:20
your scooter but go ahead if you want to
1:33:23
pitch a tent and now the mayor saying
1:33:25
well yeah obviously you know if it's
1:33:28
really busily then we can't help I'm
1:33:29
comping their hello
1:33:32
and there's something else disgusting
1:33:34
going on now Austin yeah what if if I
1:33:38
ask you what is Austin's main business
1:33:40
music no of course not University of
1:33:43
Texas well that would be the actual
1:33:46
answer but where we've become a
1:33:48
conference town and part of that move
1:33:51
when we think when we found out the del
1:33:53
which is you know founded and operates
1:33:56
from Austin Texas could not even hold
1:33:58
their annual sales the sales meeting
1:34:01
because there were not enough hotel
1:34:02
rooms there was a decision that was made
1:34:05
okay we're gonna be a conference town
1:34:09
and we are a city and we have a big
1:34:11
conference city and a conference center
1:34:12
and we have lots of hotels that are
1:34:15
opening up now and so they're a big
1:34:17
lobby surprise surprise they're going
1:34:19
after the STRs the short-term rentals
1:34:22
and so the people announcer now the the
1:34:25
to come together were people who were
1:34:28
doing air B&B or say well wait a minute
1:34:30
uh I can't rent out my home for people
1:34:35
to stay in it but it's okay for people
1:34:37
to camp on the street I mean you see how
1:34:38
this is not going to end up well with
1:34:41
all these different groups yeah that's
1:34:43
for sure and at least they're doing
1:34:45
something and it looks like downtown
1:34:47
this is no City no lie ordinance will be
1:34:50
here will be reinstated which is a
1:34:54
somewhat of a win it's not fixing the
1:34:56
problem but it's somewhat did you don't
1:34:58
you have any vagrancy laws in that town
1:35:00
oh this is exactly what they did they
1:35:03
said go ahead do whatever you want
1:35:05
you're just camping they call it the
1:35:08
camping laws it's no sit no like camping
1:35:10
and then there's no doesn't the term
1:35:13
homeless does not enter that
1:35:17
that that rule is just camping
1:35:22
it's an interesting workaround yeah
1:35:26
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1:35:28
that's what it is all right well yeah
1:35:31
and you're welcome to it
1:35:35
so I have and I said then saying so too
1:35:39
much I'm surprised you haven't caught me
1:35:40
let's get them Felicity Huffman update
1:35:43
yeah this was uh this was interesting
1:35:45
which which one do you have I have a
1:35:47
kind of a showbizzy version listen to
1:35:50
yours for new details tonight on actress
1:35:51
Felicity Huffman sentencing in the
1:35:53
college admissions scandal Hoffman must
1:35:55
turn herself in by October 25th for a
1:35:58
two-week stay at a minimum security
1:36:00
prison in California according to prison
1:36:03
guidelines Huffman will be allowed to
1:36:04
sunbathe at a certain time also made her
1:36:08
own bed by 6:30 a.m. every weekday I
1:36:13
have a longer report from Inside Edition
1:36:15
we need the we need the real news jingle
1:36:18
for this this is this is so much better
1:36:20
although that was start and now back to
1:36:23
real news Felicity Huffman was sentenced
1:36:26
to 14 days in prison for her role in the
1:36:29
college admissions scandal Huffman says
1:36:31
her daughter told her I don't know who
1:36:33
you are anymore mom why didn't you
1:36:35
believe in me why didn't you think I
1:36:37
could do it on my own
1:36:38
the US attorney asked the judge to
1:36:40
sentence her to 30 days in jail
1:36:42
Huffman's lawyer asked for no jail time
1:36:45
Huffman was ordered to turn herself in
1:36:48
on October 25th to federal authorities
1:36:50
to begin her 14-day sentence in a
1:36:53
surprise move she asked to do her time
1:36:55
in the federal penitentiary in Northern
1:36:56
California it's a much cooler climate
1:36:59
but the Bureau of Prisons may choose to
1:37:01
send her to Victorville in the desert
1:37:03
she should not expect camp cupcake she
1:37:07
is gonna be clinging back Holly Coleman
1:37:09
knows firsthand what it's like in
1:37:11
Victorville she served 13 months there
1:37:13
for wire fraud she says Huffman's time
1:37:16
behind bars will start with a strip
1:37:18
search that's not the only indignity
1:37:21
that she's going to face you get
1:37:23
harassment you're done means you are
1:37:26
yelled at Coleman who is now a prison
1:37:29
consultant says Huffman will have a hard
1:37:31
time from the correctional officers not
1:37:33
the other inmate they're going to
1:37:35
probably try and rattle her cage a
1:37:38
little bit more so they're gonna be
1:37:40
really around her barking orders at her
1:37:41
what was the food like there it's
1:37:43
horrible
1:37:44
you couldn't even really tell
1:37:46
necessarily
1:37:47
what it was if it was chicken it really
1:37:50
didn't look like chicken in fact most of
1:37:52
the boxes would even say not for human
1:37:54
consumption I chose this report
1:37:58
specifically to just show you that this
1:38:02
has nothing to do with law this is part
1:38:04
of the canceled culture shaming
1:38:08
humiliation it's very odd I don't know
1:38:12
if I can really describe what I think
1:38:14
about this but it's more like ah you
1:38:15
have to clean toilets bitch it's kind of
1:38:17
like that instead of instead of what is
1:38:20
going on with an application this is the
1:38:22
same as the olden days in the 1600s or
1:38:25
the olden days you put in stocks yeah in
1:38:27
the stocks in the stockade lot but in
1:38:32
the middle of town there'd be some guy
1:38:34
in this bandage with his head through a
1:38:35
hole and there's our life down yeah and
1:38:39
kids who come and spit on him it's kind
1:38:43
of what it is it's evil that way isn't
1:38:45
it that's just a two week sentence so
1:38:47
that's easy but there's no there's no
1:38:49
real discussion of what's actually going
1:38:51
on here and why this is necessary and
1:38:53
what the hell CBS had so she's living it
1:38:56
up except for the fact that she has to
1:38:57
make her bed whoa yeah that's so sad so
1:39:01
sad
1:39:04
yeah well the idea was of course is to
1:39:06
scare the other one Lori Loughlin
1:39:09
yeah who's with Olivia Jade the daughter
1:39:12
with the giving the finger to everybody
1:39:16
they're gonna go to trial and I think if
1:39:20
I was on the jury I would be very
1:39:22
hard-pressed to find any of these people
1:39:25
guilty they were suckered by some by
1:39:28
more or less a scammer or a system that
1:39:32
was a scammed system and they didn't
1:39:33
know any better cuz they weren't
1:39:35
educated themselves and the daughters
1:39:37
are should have gone to junior college
1:39:40
like everyone else if they want to go to
1:39:41
college at all they didn't have to go to
1:39:43
some prestigious school like Olivia Jade
1:39:46
needs to go to anything you know above
1:39:48
you know Fullerton JC mm or Long Beach
1:39:52
but okay but I still think this is the
1:39:56
punishments not fitting the crime here I
1:39:57
mean yeah there was some fraud and
1:39:59
bribery and things like that but it's
1:40:02
all it was all scumbag but also this the
1:40:05
way the loop has not been closed there's
1:40:08
no closure on okay is this still
1:40:11
happening and what was this ring where's
1:40:13
the guy who was behind it we don't hear
1:40:15
any of that zero we don't hear anything
1:40:16
about that guy it's it's it's just
1:40:18
become the largest distraction of the
1:40:21
week the end of pool just shut up about
1:40:25
everything else don't worry about it
1:40:26
still going on of course just in
1:40:28
different forms surely through the
1:40:31
athletic parts of the of the system ions
1:40:35
incredible disservice this is your
1:40:37
academic industrial complex who are
1:40:40
likely blocking stories however whatever
1:40:43
is being done is its disservice to the
1:40:45
people indeed all right gotta break this
1:40:50
out
1:40:53
[Music]
1:40:55
a brand new theme song
1:41:06
[Music]
1:41:07
courtesy jean-claude this could be a hit
1:41:15
Oh TG I'm an OTG guy come on cut see the
1:41:18
t-shirts and the bumper stickers yeah
1:41:20
well I'm all in a little update on
1:41:23
you're off the grid why should be off
1:41:24
the grid and why you should be like me
1:41:25
and like John John has no phone I have
1:41:29
the phone Yeah right you haven't a nexus
1:41:33
one and good phones a landline it's
1:41:35
right made a bakelite I have the cloaked
1:41:40
iPhone 5 which I realized I still need
1:41:44
to put the instructions together how to
1:41:45
do that it doesn't matter that much if
1:41:47
you're on Verizon do not buy the iPhone
1:41:50
5 from Amazon like I've done they will
1:41:52
no longer activate it on Verizon so that
1:41:56
phone is now being shipped out to
1:41:58
pasture if a knife verizon uses they use
1:42:02
CDMA don't they they don't have the SIM
1:42:03
cards ok so that's just tough I'm pretty
1:42:08
sure the F the iPhone 5 will continue to
1:42:10
to function for GSM based networks with
1:42:15
a SIM card finally we have some
1:42:18
reporting with questions like should
1:42:21
apps share details of women's
1:42:24
menstruation and sex lives with Facebook
1:42:27
and other sites question as it turns out
1:42:32
60% of the apps that track cycle as
1:42:36
minster menstrual cycles or ovulation
1:42:40
cycles which of course ultimately comes
1:42:42
down to sexual cycles the minute you
1:42:45
fire up the app it sends off all your
1:42:48
data to Facebook even if you don't have
1:42:50
a Facebook account of course Facebook
1:42:53
has an account on you you just don't
1:42:55
participate in it the
1:43:00
iPhone 11 was announced there was some
1:43:02
an omission in the presentation but
1:43:06
where experts are now pretty sure it
1:43:08
contains the you one that's letter U one
1:43:13
location chip to facilitate the Apple
1:43:16
tags none of this was mentioned in this
1:43:20
particular special presentation that Tim
1:43:24
Tom Collins cook did but let me explain
1:43:28
what it is the U one location chip uses
1:43:32
ble which is Bluetooth Low Energy I
1:43:35
believe that's the same technology my
1:43:37
hearing aids use it's a 2.4 gigahertz
1:43:41
very low energy so it has a limited
1:43:44
field but incredibly precise location
1:43:48
determination as possible and the Apple
1:43:51
tags this is very interesting you
1:43:54
they're selling them I guess they're
1:43:57
gonna sell them everywhere I've seen
1:43:58
them about certainly in the phone store
1:44:00
it's a little sticker which of course
1:44:02
isn't an eye an RFID type of sticker you
1:44:05
can put it on anything you want so put
1:44:07
it on your keys if you leave your keys
1:44:09
on the and you're walking out of the
1:44:11
house your iPhone will alert you but pop
1:44:14
up you're walking too far away from your
1:44:16
keys you so it knows that you're in the
1:44:18
house out of the house but let's say you
1:44:20
leave your keys at a bar
1:44:23
the Apple tag system will be able to
1:44:26
locate your keys even if you're at home
1:44:29
10 miles away or 100 miles away it
1:44:32
doesn't make any difference and how does
1:44:33
it work yes how does it work Adam the
1:44:37
all Apple iPhones we are now part of a
1:44:40
network of course encrypted we can never
1:44:43
see what it's all about and it's a mesh
1:44:45
type of network where they are detecting
1:44:48
Apple tags anywhere in the vicinity and
1:44:51
reporting it all back to Apple on a
1:44:53
continuing basis so there are neither
1:44:56
words hold on a second I'm guy just and
1:44:58
I'm stopping it so I can ask a wise
1:45:01
question so I've got an RFID tag on my
1:45:05
keys and I left the keys at the bar and
1:45:08
they're apples assuming there's so many
1:45:11
people there at any given public place
1:45:13
there will be a number of Apple iPhones
1:45:16
correct and those Apple iPhones will be
1:45:18
sending out some some signal something
1:45:22
to get the induction to work on the keys
1:45:24
the ID and it say oh look there's a key
1:45:27
number one one five five six six brief a
1:45:31
b25 ba ba ba yeah let me just take that
1:45:34
information and send it to Apple and
1:45:37
maybe some other people can cut
1:45:39
triangulate on this key and they'll at
1:45:41
least Apple now will know where the key
1:45:43
is if the owner of the key wants to find
1:45:45
it do you know now in the process of
1:45:49
doing this the Apple iPhone is sending
1:45:52
signals to the headquarters and Jennsen
1:45:55
conduction currents out to the to the
1:45:57
RFID tag and it's wasting juice no
1:46:00
wonder the battery doesn't last for long
1:46:02
that was my problem with the system but
1:46:04
you make a good point I'm all for it
1:46:07
yeah that's not bad
1:46:09
that's exactly what it's going to do and
1:46:11
but you can put these things on anything
1:46:13
you can put it on your kid you put it on
1:46:14
your dog put it on your neighbor you
1:46:16
could you can track other people if I
1:46:19
slap a tag on you you know like I'm
1:46:21
putting a you know you put a kick me
1:46:23
sign on someone's back you slap a little
1:46:25
tag on them so there's a lot of
1:46:27
implications about this but the main
1:46:29
thing is going to be used for is for
1:46:31
retail tracking and you better believe
1:46:34
Apple has all kinds of deals in place
1:46:37
to help retail understand exactly where
1:46:40
the customer is standing and this will
1:46:42
be this is going to be very big and I'm
1:46:44
sure Apple's not the only one and
1:46:46
they're not really talking about it all
1:46:48
they talk about is how how they care
1:46:50
about your privacy and your security
1:46:52
well I'm not so sure about it but this
1:46:55
story as I was watching ESPN I'm always
1:46:57
surprised it I flip on ESPN to catch up
1:47:00
on sports as I do frequent lights as I
1:47:05
frequently do imagine my surprise when I
1:47:08
hear a kind of an OTG segment certainly
1:47:11
show material regarding bama we tried to
1:47:16
look it up I guess that's the Alabama
1:47:18
team Bama brother oh yeah everybody
1:47:22
knows Bama yes I knew that
1:47:24
bomani Nick Saban has a technological
1:47:27
solution for the empty student sections
1:47:29
he keeps complaining about his New York
1:47:31
Times reports that Alabama had students
1:47:33
install a custom version of an app named
1:47:35
fan maker that tracks locations of fans
1:47:38
inside the stadium and the reward is
1:47:41
loyalty points to be redeemed for SEC
1:47:42
title game and college football playoff
1:47:44
tickets so what does this app sound like
1:47:47
to you
1:47:48
alright so I do like kind of dig the
1:47:51
idea that you can be rewarded for
1:47:53
staying the whole game because they do
1:47:54
have a problem here which is they be
1:47:56
beating the brakes off people and not
1:47:58
everybody wants to be running the risk
1:47:59
of getting skin cancer watching a
1:48:00
foregone conclusion right so I
1:48:02
understand that part of it however the
1:48:05
idea that they are tracking you yes this
1:48:07
is the case with most apps you use to be
1:48:09
clear most of them have this power and
1:48:11
do that but it starts feeling extra
1:48:14
creepy when you start hearing about it
1:48:16
in these settings it sounds dystopian it
1:48:18
sounds like you are getting paid actors
1:48:21
to end up attending these games because
1:48:23
the players are not paid so what do we
1:48:26
do we have to build the environment
1:48:27
around them that helps recruit more of
1:48:29
those players and so the fans are
1:48:31
complicit in that but for me this all
1:48:33
strikes the privacy it strikes to the
1:48:35
notion that we are just going to let
1:48:37
schools universities employers bosses
1:48:40
track you because where does it end
1:48:42
where does it
1:48:43
you get your location well hold on now
1:48:45
we're kind of burying the lead to a
1:48:47
degree here now we're the lead because
1:48:48
we decided to focus this around Alabama
1:48:50
but on our research coming up to do this
1:48:51
show we found out that the University of
1:48:53
North Carolina is using tracking to make
1:48:56
sure that the players go to class like
1:48:57
it's no longer enough now to put
1:48:59
somebody outside of the class which you
1:49:01
can do when everybody takes the same
1:49:02
classes and just to check if they go now
1:49:04
oh no no no they are going to be using
1:49:06
this to track whether you go to class
1:49:07
which gets us to the point that you are
1:49:08
making at what point do you think they
1:49:10
are going to stop like once they get a
1:49:12
little bit in here they're going to keep
1:49:13
doing it why because they see it as a
1:49:15
good idea why because it makes sense if
1:49:18
one argument that we can't continue to
1:49:20
use Pablo for justify things it's simply
1:49:23
that they make sense because then you
1:49:24
get to this stuff imagine my surprise an
1:49:28
OTG segment on ESPN this is not yet
1:49:30
we're spreading this is a big story
1:49:33
actually in the sports world because
1:49:35
Alabama or Bama they are the best well a
1:49:40
second best actually the second best
1:49:42
college football team but but they're
1:49:44
always the best or the second best and
1:49:45