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            now that's what I call talent
Adam curry
          
                  
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            John C. Dvorak this is your
          
                  
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            award-winning keep on Asian
media
          
                  
            0:08
          
          
            assassination episode 1188 this
is no
          
                  
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            agenda airport in the capital
of Gitmo
          
                  
            0:21
          
          
            nation lowlands in the morning
everybody
          
                  
            0:22
          
          
            by Adam Curry and from northern
          
                  
            0:25
          
          
            Silicon Valley where we're
fogged in and
          
                  
            0:27
          
          
            it's gonna be kind of chilly
I'm John
          
                  
            0:30
          
          
            Cena boring hey John bogged in
45
          
                  
            0:38
          
          
            degrees people airport
amsterdam brainy
          
                  
            0:40
          
          
            grey skies and it's nighttime
and at
          
                  
            0:44
          
          
            least it was nice how I didn't
say that
          
                  
            0:46
          
          
            I said it's horrible is gray
she said it
          
                  
            0:49
          
          
            was nice when did I say that
          
                  
            0:51
          
          
            when I first hooked up who said
what ago
          
                  
            0:56
          
          
            you said what's the word show
and I said
          
                  
            0:58
          
          
            gray and you heard noise oh I
thought
          
                  
            1:02
          
          
            you said great ah certainly
wasn't nice
          
                  
            1:06
          
          
            no you said great I said great
well you
          
                  
            1:11
          
          
            left out to tea well drop your
G like a
          
                  
            1:13
          
          
            millennial and I just thought
you said
          
                  
            1:14
          
          
            meant great that's on the
schedule
          
                  
            1:16
          
          
            that's great we will be
discussing that
          
                  
            1:19
          
          
            on the show today
          
                  
            1:20
          
          
            is great however for a for a
brief
          
                  
            1:24
          
          
            moment yesterday people my
temporary
          
                  
            1:28
          
          
            home was the center of the
universe over
          
                  
            1:33
          
          
            here what that news got over
here I know
          
                  
            1:37
          
          
            I'm totally timing my clips and
you just
          
                  
            1:39
          
          
            jumped right in I'll try again
so we can
          
                  
            1:41
          
          
            edit it later we were the
center of the
          
                  
            1:44
          
          
            universe good evening the world
held its
          
                  
            1:46
          
          
            breath for hours late today
after word
          
                  
            1:48
          
          
            of a possible airplane hijack
drama
          
                  
            1:51
          
          
            unfolding in Amsterdam a signal
          
                  
            1:53
          
          
            mistakenly transmitted from the
cockpit
          
                  
            1:55
          
          
            of a Madrid bound airplane
indicating a
          
                  
            1:58
          
          
            hijack was in progress
triggered a
          
                  
            2:00
          
          
            full-on military and police
response and
          
                  
            2:03
          
          
            reminded us all that when it
comes to
          
                  
            2:05
          
          
            aviation security there is no
taking
          
                  
            2:08
          
          
            chances kelly cobiella starts
us off at
          
                  
            2:11
          
          
            one of the busiest airports in
the world
          
                  
            2:13
          
          
            tonight a major security scare
planes
          
                  
            2:16
          
          
            stranded at gates after Dutch
police got
          
                  
            2:19
          
          
            a hijacking alert from the
cockpit of a
          
                  
            2:21
          
          
            plane that hadn't taken off
flights
          
                  
            2:24
          
          
            delayed parts of the airport
closed
          
                  
            2:26
          
          
            nearly two hours later it was
over the
          
                  
            2:30
          
          
            airline Air Europa explaining
on Twitter
          
                  
            2:32
          
          
            the alert was activated by
mistake
          
                  
            2:34
          
          
            nothing has happened all
passengers are
          
                  
            2:37
          
          
            safe and sound
          
                  
            2:38
          
          
            50 million travelers fly through
          
                  
            2:41
          
          
            Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport
every year
          
                  
            2:43
          
          
            last-minute passengers were
evacuated
          
                  
            2:45
          
          
            after a man claimed to have a
bomb
          
                  
            2:47
          
          
            police arrested a 51 year old
Canadian
          
                  
            2:50
          
          
            but found no explosives tonight
Dutch
          
                  
            2:54
          
          
            military police tell us they're
still
          
                  
            2:56
          
          
            investigating what sparked
today's
          
                  
            2:58
          
          
            hijacking alarm Lester Wright
kelly
          
                  
            3:00
          
          
            cobiella with those anxious
moments
          
                  
            3:02
          
          
            though oh yes thanks very
anxious
          
                  
            3:04
          
          
            moments I was not in the hotel
I was at
          
                  
            3:07
          
          
            Christina's house in Rotterdam
but taxi
          
                  
            3:09
          
          
            Eric was here because he's
always
          
                  
            3:11
          
          
            driving people to and from the
airport
          
                  
            3:12
          
          
            he said he had never seen so
many blue
          
                  
            3:16
          
          
            lights in all the years he's
worked near
          
                  
            3:18
          
          
            the airport he says it
          
                  
            3:19
          
          
            completely filled it was a mess
and
          
                  
            3:23
          
          
            everybody wanted know what's
happening
          
                  
            3:25
          
          
            there were reports that there
were
          
                  
            3:26
          
          
            stabbings and there were the
craziest no
          
                  
            3:29
          
          
            one knew anything and quite
honestly I
          
                  
            3:32
          
          
            was sitting with Christina and
Shanta
          
                  
            3:34
          
          
            we're smoking dope you know
like you
          
                  
            3:36
          
          
            know whatever you know we'll
figure out
          
                  
            3:37
          
          
            later but Eric was texting me
updates
          
                  
            3:39
          
          
            people are sending me emails
like you
          
                  
            3:42
          
          
            okay
          
                  
            3:43
          
          
            and that's always interesting
how that
          
                  
            3:44
          
          
            goes well I appreciate it you
know it's
          
                  
            3:46
          
          
            nice that people think of me in
that way
          
                  
            3:48
          
          
            we got a little bit of
information
          
                  
            3:51
          
          
            within an hour or so on CNN
I'll play a
          
                  
            3:54
          
          
            bit of this you know there's an
          
                  
            3:57
          
          
            emergency involving one of its
planes
          
                  
            4:03
          
          
            military says passengers and
crew are
          
                  
            4:07
          
          
            safely off the plane I've
taught it's
          
                  
            4:09
          
          
            called a suspicious situation
aboard an
          
                  
            4:11
          
          
            aircraft emergency services had
flocked
          
                  
            4:14
          
          
            to the airport and there was a
major
          
                  
            4:17
          
          
            incident underway kick
robertson is
          
                  
            4:20
          
          
            following this in London and
Nick I
          
                  
            4:23
          
          
            forgive you that you like to
enjoy of
          
                  
            4:25
          
          
            telling us what air europa says
was the
          
                  
            4:27
          
          
            reason why are you Reaper says
that it
          
                  
            4:30
          
          
            was a mistake onboard the
aircraft that
          
                  
            4:33
          
          
            the warning that it was
triggered by
          
                  
            4:37
          
          
            mistake of warning was
triggered by
          
                  
            4:40
          
          
            mistake at this point that's
where I'm
          
                  
            4:42
          
          
            tuning out I'm like okay they
have no
          
                  
            4:44
          
          
            idea what they're talking about
so I do
          
                  
            4:48
          
          
            know what happened and it's
it's really
          
                  
            4:51
          
          
            it's an odd one and it's stupid
but also
          
                  
            4:54
          
          
            odd on every aircraft that fly
is
          
                  
            4:59
          
          
            certainly commercial you have a
          
                  
            5:00
          
          
            transponder and the transponder
is a
          
                  
            5:03
          
          
            little box that has four digits
on it's
          
                  
            5:04
          
          
            very simple and the transponder
you're
          
                  
            5:08
          
          
            asked to set a code in there
and that's
          
                  
            5:10
          
          
            what then radar can read that
and and
          
                  
            5:14
          
          
            identify you by the code they
just gave
          
                  
            5:16
          
          
            you so my plane would be you
know eight
          
                  
            5:19
          
          
            five to nine and when you see
under
          
                  
            5:22
          
          
            radar yes flight or flight
radar exactly
          
                  
            5:25
          
          
            and the Box also broadcast
position at
          
                  
            5:29
          
          
            broadcasts
          
                  
            5:31
          
          
            air speed altitude etc this box
the way
          
                  
            5:38
          
          
            you activate it is you there's
really
          
                  
            5:40
          
          
            two they're two models kind of
and one
          
                  
            5:43
          
          
            is you'll set each number when
just
          
                  
            5:46
          
          
            tapping up or down literally
like an up
          
                  
            5:48
          
          
            or down button and then you
press
          
                  
            5:49
          
          
            another button and it's
activated
          
                  
            5:51
          
          
            there's the newer models I
would say or
          
                  
            5:53
          
          
            just different models you
really only
          
                  
            5:55
          
          
            have to type in the four digits
and then
          
                  
            5:57
          
          
            when you hit the fourth one it
it starts
          
                  
            6:00
          
          
            to broadcast with that code
there are a
          
                  
            6:02
          
          
            couple of special codes one is
seven
          
                  
            6:04
          
          
            thousand seven zero zero zero
which is
          
                  
            6:07
          
          
            used pretty much universally
around the
          
                  
            6:08
          
          
            world there's a lot of people
just
          
                  
            6:10
          
          
            flying under visual flight
rules so
          
                  
            6:11
          
          
            Cessnas and stuff like that and
so as
          
                  
            6:14
          
          
            long as they can see that
there's that
          
                  
            6:17
          
          
            there's a lot of seven
thousands and
          
                  
            6:18
          
          
            keep them away from each other
than
          
                  
            6:19
          
          
            everything's good so you don't
really to
          
                  
            6:21
          
          
            know specifics about those
aircraft but
          
                  
            6:23
          
          
            we also have 7700 which is an
emergency
          
                  
            6:27
          
          
            so you know it's going down you
hit 7700
          
                  
            6:31
          
          
            and as soon as you're calling
on the
          
                  
            6:32
          
          
            radio 7600 is if you have if
you can't
          
                  
            6:37
          
          
            communicate with your radio
doesn't
          
                  
            6:39
          
          
            necessarily mean you have an
emergency
          
                  
            6:40
          
          
            but then they can say okay they
have a
          
                  
            6:42
          
          
            radio problem 7500 is hijack so
the
          
                  
            6:49
          
          
            story that I got locally was
the captain
          
                  
            6:52
          
          
            of Air Europa was showing an
intern huh
          
                  
            6:56
          
          
            stuff in the cockpit which
sounds really
          
                  
            7:00
          
          
            sketchy so if he I can just
imagine the
          
                  
            7:04
          
          
            guy uh captain captain Mary
Oprah here
          
                  
            7:07
          
          
            let me just show you he
pressing gives
          
                  
            7:10
          
          
            us an emerge a Kyle show you
what we do
          
                  
            7:12
          
          
            baby
          
                  
            7:12
          
          
            we just hit 7500 and he did
that and it
          
                  
            7:16
          
          
            start broadcasting 7500 so that
shows up
          
                  
            7:18
          
          
            on the radar and that's just
you know
          
                  
            7:21
          
          
            there's no calling down to say
hey hey
          
                  
            7:24
          
          
            everything okay on that hijack
now
          
                  
            7:26
          
          
            there's none of that it's an
immediate
          
                  
            7:27
          
          
            they go to we learned a new
code here in
          
                  
            7:29
          
          
            Holland crisp three I've never
heard of
          
                  
            7:32
          
          
            this is like a DEFCON three or
something
          
                  
            7:34
          
          
            for Dutch style and they called
out
          
                  
            7:37
          
          
            everybody and and and so purely
just a
          
                  
            7:42
          
          
            captain showing off to some
intern
          
                  
            7:46
          
          
            well I think
          
                  
            7:49
          
          
            - the writers out there here we
go
          
                  
            7:53
          
          
            you punched that code in by
accident
          
                  
            7:55
          
          
            with this cock-and-bull story
and then
          
                  
            7:58
          
          
            after about 10 5 minutes or 10
minutes
          
                  
            8:00
          
          
            and all the cops are headed
your way
          
                  
            8:01
          
          
            you've robbed a bank
          
                  
            8:03
          
          
            I should have checked the news
for
          
                  
            8:06
          
          
            anything else going on banks
were robbed
          
                  
            8:08
          
          
            but it is strange I did talk to
a
          
                  
            8:12
          
          
            journalist here who I know this
morning
          
                  
            8:14
          
          
            and he said you know it's
really odd
          
                  
            8:16
          
          
            Adam though because we we got
very
          
                  
            8:18
          
          
            credible reports from people
who really
          
                  
            8:22
          
          
            know what's going on at the
airport that
          
                  
            8:24
          
          
            there were three people
arrested for
          
                  
            8:27
          
          
            some stabbings as you know we
can't get
          
                  
            8:29
          
          
            any knows no confirmation or
denial so
          
                  
            8:31
          
          
            I'll just leave that for what
it is but
          
                  
            8:33
          
          
            you know that's like two sources
          
                  
            8:34
          
          
            removing is a cover-up for the
stabbings
          
                  
            8:36
          
          
            it could be it could be I mean
it's easy
          
                  
            8:39
          
          
            enough any button can go in and
you know
          
                  
            8:42
          
          
            talk to the captain and say
look we're
          
                  
            8:43
          
          
            punching these numbers in just
gonna
          
                  
            8:44
          
          
            shut up about it but anyway
that was it
          
                  
            8:46
          
          
            so it was it was apparent it
was odd how
          
                  
            8:49
          
          
            that how it spread so quickly
you know
          
                  
            8:52
          
          
            stuff happens all over the
world all the
          
                  
            8:54
          
          
            time I don't remember the world
holding
          
                  
            8:57
          
          
            its breath for two hours in
Europe they
          
                  
            9:00
          
          
            did in your bed Lester Holt had
it in
          
                  
            9:03
          
          
            Europe they held their breath
did they
          
                  
            9:06
          
          
            broke into the news they
immediately
          
                  
            9:07
          
          
            stopped game shows it was great
like oh
          
                  
            9:11
          
          
            we got something besides
impeach Trump
          
                  
            9:15
          
          
            well and I wanted to have a
little
          
                  
            9:17
          
          
            report of what's going on I've
been
          
                  
            9:18
          
          
            paying attention
          
                  
            9:20
          
          
            maybe I should first say that
I'm over
          
                  
            9:22
          
          
            here celebrating 100 years of
radio in
          
                  
            9:27
          
          
            the Netherlands which they
celebrated
          
                  
            9:30
          
          
            quite quite big I mean is every
station
          
                  
            9:33
          
          
            had some tribute or something
going on
          
                  
            9:35
          
          
            and it was the public
broadcaster who I
          
                  
            9:38
          
          
            originally worked for way back
in the
          
                  
            9:40
          
          
            day who flew me in to be a part
of this
          
                  
            9:42
          
          
            one show and I basically spent
time
          
                  
            9:44
          
          
            hanging out with some of these
older
          
                  
            9:46
          
          
            DJ's you know they're in their
70s I
          
                  
            9:48
          
          
            figured huh I hang out with
them for a
          
                  
            9:51
          
          
            bit and then maybe when I'm an
old an
          
                  
            9:52
          
          
            old geezer he'll come visit me
so it was
          
                  
            9:56
          
          
            you know kind of nice to
reconnect but I
          
                  
            10:00
          
          
            had a lot of time also to watch
          
                  
            10:02
          
          
            all news channels and I have to
tell you
          
                  
            10:05
          
          
            there is not a lot of Trump
news in the
          
                  
            10:08
          
          
            EU right now it's it's it's as
if it
          
                  
            10:12
          
          
            just doesn't matter and it
probably
          
                  
            10:14
          
          
            doesn't they have so much going
on here
          
                  
            10:16
          
          
            with climate crisis that's the
top news
          
                  
            10:19
          
          
            which of course we hear almost
nothing
          
                  
            10:21
          
          
            about in the US well not to the
extreme
          
                  
            10:25
          
          
            of extinction rebellion oh yeah
oh no
          
                  
            10:28
          
          
            extinction rebellion there is a
lot that
          
                  
            10:31
          
          
            they're talking about here
couple things
          
                  
            10:35
          
          
            so we'll get the climate crisis
in a
          
                  
            10:38
          
          
            moment the Dutch schools now
this is a
          
                  
            10:40
          
          
            socialist country now it's a
democracy
          
                  
            10:43
          
          
            with a monarchy and their
socialist it's
          
                  
            10:45
          
          
            a fantastic combination the
result is
          
                  
            10:49
          
          
            that it's really nothing works
the big
          
                  
            10:53
          
          
            three it really is and I was
watching a
          
                  
            10:56
          
          
            talk show last night and you
know the
          
                  
            10:58
          
          
            teachers are rarely satisfied
but they
          
                  
            11:01
          
          
            are there's a shortage right
now of 6600
          
                  
            11:06
          
          
            teachers you know people just
don't want
          
                  
            11:09
          
          
            to go into the into the
profession
          
                  
            11:11
          
          
            anymore and when you heard these
          
                  
            11:13
          
          
            teachers talking about what the
          
                  
            11:14
          
          
            profession is these days I
don't can't
          
                  
            11:16
          
          
            blame people and I had her I
made a note
          
                  
            11:19
          
          
            of this a couple weeks ago when
a friend
          
                  
            11:21
          
          
            of mine was in town his
daughter who's
          
                  
            11:23
          
          
            it also a teacher she was
telling me
          
                  
            11:25
          
          
            some of this but was nice to
see the
          
                  
            11:26
          
          
            talk show these schools are like
          
                  
            11:28
          
          
            computerized zombie factories
the
          
                  
            11:31
          
          
            teachers have to keep profiles
of every
          
                  
            11:33
          
          
            student and have to make sure
that any
          
                  
            11:36
          
          
            other they have two check boxes
all day
          
                  
            11:38
          
          
            long if the student is paying
attention
          
                  
            11:39
          
          
            or not paying attention
          
                  
            11:41
          
          
            they say there's so much work
that they
          
                  
            11:43
          
          
            have to do administratively
just to make
          
                  
            11:45
          
          
            sure the kids are okay and of
course
          
                  
            11:48
          
          
            there's kids who are slower
learning are
          
                  
            11:50
          
          
            forced to be in the same
classroom as
          
                  
            11:52
          
          
            the kids who are on a normal
curriculum
          
                  
            11:55
          
          
            and so teachers have to split
their
          
                  
            11:57
          
          
            times it's it's a mess it's
trying to
          
                  
            11:59
          
          
            make everybody happy at the
same time
          
                  
            12:01
          
          
            and all this spying basically
on the
          
                  
            12:04
          
          
            kids it's very odd so they're
gonna go
          
                  
            12:06
          
          
            on strike they can't do it
anymore
          
                  
            12:09
          
          
            they've classes of 50 kids and
that's a
          
                  
            12:12
          
          
            lot
          
                  
            12:16
          
          
            so there's no teaching involved
in the
          
                  
            12:18
          
          
            profession anymore no it's no
the
          
                  
            12:21
          
          
            teaching and this is the
complaint it's
          
                  
            12:23
          
          
            like they're really relegated
to data
          
                  
            12:25
          
          
            input as they observe these
children
          
                  
            12:29
          
          
            because the the testing is all
comes
          
                  
            12:32
          
          
            from the computer they're doing
all the
          
                  
            12:35
          
          
            scores you know everything's
done
          
                  
            12:36
          
          
            through the computer the
curriculum is
          
                  
            12:38
          
          
            from the computer they can't
really
          
                  
            12:40
          
          
            deviate from the curriculum and
you know
          
                  
            12:42
          
          
            they say well I have ideas
about how I
          
                  
            12:44
          
          
            want to teach kids about a
certain
          
                  
            12:46
          
          
            subject it's like no no you got
to
          
                  
            12:47
          
          
            follow it's basically like
common core
          
                  
            12:49
          
          
            plus wow it's really bad
          
                  
            12:54
          
          
            hmm so healthcare which as you
know is
          
                  
            12:59
          
          
            kind of a version of Obamacare
here
          
                  
            13:02
          
          
            where everything is socialized
it is a
          
                  
            13:05
          
          
            giant Medicare but you still
get your
          
                  
            13:09
          
          
            insurance for it very cheaply I
think
          
                  
            13:11
          
          
            it's a hundred and thirty-five
euros but
          
                  
            13:13
          
          
            you know per person it's a
really quite
          
                  
            13:16
          
          
            quite cheap on a monthly basis
for what
          
                  
            13:18
          
          
            per month per person per month
it's over
          
                  
            13:21
          
          
            a hundred euros a month yes so
it's
          
                  
            13:24
          
          
            $1,200 per person per per year
for our
          
                  
            13:28
          
          
            1200 euros every year yeah
          
                  
            13:30
          
          
            that's not cheap it's only
socialized
          
                  
            13:33
          
          
            medicine to me sounds like 10%
of what I
          
                  
            13:36
          
          
            pay well not the fact that
you're
          
                  
            13:40
          
          
            getting ripped off okay but but
it is
          
                  
            13:43
          
          
            socialized at the where and
this is what
          
                  
            13:45
          
          
            they're running into so first
of all
          
                  
            13:47
          
          
            doctors are leaving I think
we've talked
          
                  
            13:48
          
          
            about this because in order to
have all
          
                  
            13:51
          
          
            doctors working and make it all
fair or
          
                  
            13:53
          
          
            whatever the hell it is
everybody works
          
                  
            13:56
          
          
            32 hours a week so but you get
paid for
          
                  
            13:59
          
          
            32 hours a week so like and
people it's
          
                  
            14:02
          
          
            not enough it's not enough to
get by and
          
                  
            14:05
          
          
            now because they they buy all
the
          
                  
            14:08
          
          
            medication centrally there's a
shortage
          
                  
            14:11
          
          
            of masses of medicine there's
like a
          
                  
            14:14
          
          
            pipeline problem yeah well you
know we
          
                  
            14:16
          
          
            never want to order too much in
advance
          
                  
            14:17
          
          
            we were negotiating in the
contract and
          
                  
            14:19
          
          
            people can't get really simple
things
          
                  
            14:21
          
          
            like lipitor and you know the
other you
          
                  
            14:24
          
          
            know I didn't specifically
mention blood
          
                  
            14:26
          
          
            pressure medication just really
normal
          
                  
            14:29
          
          
            stuff over the counter
          
                  
            14:30
          
          
            it's backlogged and people
can't get it
          
                  
            14:32
          
          
            and they go to the Appetit
curry and
          
                  
            14:34
          
          
            it's like no sorry you didn't
come back
          
                  
            14:36
          
          
            there's no generics no no's no
brand
          
                  
            14:39
          
          
            names nothing
          
                  
            14:41
          
          
            something else people never
think about
          
                  
            14:43
          
          
            when the government runs it
what happens
          
                  
            14:45
          
          
            if fell a glitch occurs in
their supply
          
                  
            14:48
          
          
            chain
          
                  
            14:50
          
          
            it sounds like well I think some
          
                  
            14:54
          
          
            governments could probably do a
better
          
                  
            14:55
          
          
            job
          
                  
            14:58
          
          
            for sure the Dutch good it's
just when
          
                  
            15:00
          
          
            you think of the Dutch you
don't think
          
                  
            15:02
          
          
            of these types of problems then
it's
          
                  
            15:05
          
          
            it's kind of eye-opening
          
                  
            15:06
          
          
            I guess the Dutch in a way to
most
          
                  
            15:08
          
          
            countries outside of Europe you
know to
          
                  
            15:10
          
          
            Americans certainly kind of
back up
          
                  
            15:11
          
          
            Scandinavians yeah they look a
bit like
          
                  
            15:13
          
          
            I'm so-and-so you don't expect
that
          
                  
            15:16
          
          
            let's see what else oh yes
wouldn't
          
                  
            15:18
          
          
            expect it no so then we get
into I mean
          
                  
            15:24
          
          
            this country's has problem
after problem
          
                  
            15:26
          
          
            so the farmers I I tell you
great pains
          
                  
            15:30
          
          
            to understand the issues and it
was and
          
                  
            15:34
          
          
            everyone has a slightly
different
          
                  
            15:35
          
          
            explanation but I can give you
the short
          
                  
            15:38
          
          
            version first which is the
farmers were
          
                  
            15:41
          
          
            told to do everything a certain
way to a
          
                  
            15:45
          
          
            lot of them are only making hay
and
          
                  
            15:47
          
          
            literally just hay so it's just
grass
          
                  
            15:50
          
          
            and they can't really mean that
just be
          
                  
            15:52
          
          
            making hay on it for so long
that the
          
                  
            15:54
          
          
            there's not much left to build
you know
          
                  
            15:56
          
          
            you have to you know the whole
soil is
          
                  
            15:57
          
          
            just poor and they've been
doing that
          
                  
            16:01
          
          
            for you know five or ten years
and then
          
                  
            16:04
          
          
            all of a sudden the government
turned
          
                  
            16:05
          
          
            around and said well now we're
changing
          
                  
            16:07
          
          
            the rules and well you've
produced too
          
                  
            16:09
          
          
            much and I have to cut
everything back
          
                  
            16:10
          
          
            by 50% so that's why there
that's the
          
                  
            16:13
          
          
            basis of them being so pissed
off it's
          
                  
            16:16
          
          
            like a when you told us what to
do and
          
                  
            16:17
          
          
            then you turn it around and are
you
          
                  
            16:18
          
          
            gonna chop everything in half
and that's
          
                  
            16:20
          
          
            literally their business gets
chopped in
          
                  
            16:23
          
          
            half according to the CEO two
numbers
          
                  
            16:26
          
          
            that they are are not allowed
to be
          
                  
            16:28
          
          
            producing some of the details
of that is
          
                  
            16:31
          
          
            the way they've measured the
co2 if at
          
                  
            16:35
          
          
            all but lots of farm lands in
the
          
                  
            16:38
          
          
            Netherlands you've driven
through the
          
                  
            16:39
          
          
            country highways go right
through it so
          
                  
            16:42
          
          
            there's a lot of co2 around
these areas
          
                  
            16:45
          
          
            because of the highway not
because of
          
                  
            16:47
          
          
            the land use so there's that
argument
          
                  
            16:49
          
          
            and then the construction
sector and
          
                  
            16:52
          
          
            this is like it's as if someone
in
          
                  
            16:55
          
          
            Holland in the government wants
to bring
          
                  
            16:57
          
          
            the country into recession they
came up
          
                  
            17:00
          
          
            with this crazy number of PFS
now P fast
          
                  
            17:05
          
          
            PFA ap FAS I guess is what we
would call
          
                  
            17:08
          
          
            hydro fluoride hydrocarbons
Florek
          
                  
            17:11
          
          
            carbon
          
                  
            17:12
          
          
            life pflueger's something like
that it's
          
                  
            17:14
          
          
            a pflueger's Lucas it's like
the town
          
                  
            17:16
          
          
            like - come on Giggy
          
                  
            17:17
          
          
            what's the Teflon yeah that's
the what's
          
                  
            17:20
          
          
            Teflon made of it's not you
mention it
          
                  
            17:25
          
          
            Lucas
          
                  
            17:28
          
          
            we'll get back to it it's made
of Lucas
          
                  
            17:31
          
          
            so you know this so that's in
the ground
          
                  
            17:33
          
          
            everywhere yeah yeah because
it's the
          
                  
            17:38
          
          
            Netherlands it's industrial
waste you
          
                  
            17:40
          
          
            know in America when we have
industrial
          
                  
            17:42
          
          
            wastes we're much smarter about
it we
          
                  
            17:45
          
          
            buy it from the factories and
then we
          
                  
            17:47
          
          
            turn it into pure fluoride and
slap it
          
                  
            17:50
          
          
            into our drinking water in
Holland they
          
                  
            17:52
          
          
            don't do that they just turn
you know
          
                  
            17:54
          
          
            put it into the water yes
          
                  
            17:55
          
          
            Teflon is poly tetra fluoro
ethylene
          
                  
            17:59
          
          
            yeah some of that stuff ATF
yeah yes
          
                  
            18:02
          
          
            yeah PTFE so I think normally
like a
          
                  
            18:08
          
          
            hundred micrograms per kilogram
is
          
                  
            18:12
          
          
            acceptable and that's pretty
much what
          
                  
            18:14
          
          
            Germany has I think that's the
number I
          
                  
            18:17
          
          
            know that the difference is in
scale
          
                  
            18:19
          
          
            that now the Dutch government
said we
          
                  
            18:22
          
          
            you know you really can't do
anything if
          
                  
            18:23
          
          
            there's zero point one microgram
          
                  
            18:25
          
          
            microgram per kilogram in the
ground and
          
                  
            18:29
          
          
            if there is you can't go
digging in it
          
                  
            18:31
          
          
            but you know apparently there's
zero
          
                  
            18:33
          
          
            point one microgram of this
stuff
          
                  
            18:34
          
          
            everywhere and so that is halted
          
                  
            18:37
          
          
            construction halted all these
permits
          
                  
            18:40
          
          
            and so they're now talking
about special
          
                  
            18:44
          
          
            payments for people who are out
of a job
          
                  
            18:47
          
          
            because of this decision
they've made it
          
                  
            18:50
          
          
            sounds wack well the only way I
can
          
                  
            18:53
          
          
            explain it is with climate
change number
          
                  
            18:57
          
          
            first of all it's the only
thing you
          
                  
            18:58
          
          
            hear about until pretty much
what you're
          
                  
            19:00
          
          
            hearing about continuously
throughout
          
                  
            19:02
          
          
            the day they sure taking the
concept of
          
                  
            19:05
          
          
            climate crisis seriously well
the net
          
                  
            19:08
          
          
            see here's the thing ever since
the
          
                  
            19:10
          
          
            European Union really came at
to came to
          
                  
            19:14
          
          
            being as an institution that
runs the
          
                  
            19:17
          
          
            show the Dutch political class
and I'm
          
                  
            19:20
          
          
            sure it's the same for the
Germans in
          
                  
            19:22
          
          
            the French etc they now no
longer have
          
                  
            19:25
          
          
            this ceiling you know you could
get to
          
                  
            19:27
          
          
            be Prime Minister and you know
then what
          
                  
            19:29
          
          
            else
          
                  
            19:29
          
          
            now everybody they all want to
be in
          
                  
            19:32
          
          
            Europe that's where the real
power is
          
                  
            19:34
          
          
            and so you can see how they're
all
          
                  
            19:36
          
          
            lobbying remember our guy from
steamer
          
                  
            19:38
          
          
            mounds he was trying to become
the new
          
                  
            19:40
          
          
            Starfleet commander
          
                  
            19:41
          
          
            that's that's they all want to
jump off
          
                  
            19:44
          
          
            of that that that springboard
of Dutch
          
                  
            19:48
          
          
            politics into Europe so they
can be the
          
                  
            19:51
          
          
            boss there and so for this
reason
          
                  
            19:53
          
          
            they're making all these really
you know
          
                  
            19:56
          
          
            climate conscious decisions but
they're
          
                  
            19:58
          
          
            going overboard for instance I
didn't
          
                  
            20:01
          
          
            even realize it but you cannot
operate
          
                  
            20:03
          
          
            as a taxi at Schiphol unless
your
          
                  
            20:07
          
          
            battery car that's why there's
all these
          
                  
            20:09
          
          
            Tesla's I didn't realize that
bid has
          
                  
            20:11
          
          
            been in effect for almost two
years so
          
                  
            20:14
          
          
            you if you have a just a
regular taxi
          
                  
            20:16
          
          
            and it's not electric and you
can't even
          
                  
            20:19
          
          
            park there and pick up
customers that's
          
                  
            20:21
          
          
            one can you drop people off yes
you can
          
                  
            20:24
          
          
            drop people off but that'll be
forbidden
          
                  
            20:25
          
          
            to I mean you're already in the
process
          
                  
            20:27
          
          
            it foregone conclusion oh yeah
already
          
                  
            20:29
          
          
            in parts of Amsterdam you drive
into the
          
                  
            20:31
          
          
            city and it says if you have a
diesel
          
                  
            20:33
          
          
            older than 2009 you're not
allowed in so
          
                  
            20:38
          
          
            and yeah of course they scan
you and
          
                  
            20:40
          
          
            they'll get you immediately if
you do do
          
                  
            20:42
          
          
            it
          
                  
            20:43
          
          
            they are lowering well it's not
done yet
          
                  
            20:47
          
          
            but because of this crisis all
of a
          
                  
            20:49
          
          
            sudden which really didn't seem
to exist
          
                  
            20:51
          
          
            except they made up some new
numbers and
          
                  
            20:54
          
          
            it became a crisis they're now
talking
          
                  
            20:57
          
          
            about lowering the speed limit
from 130
          
                  
            20:59
          
          
            kilometers per hour to a
hundred do you
          
                  
            21:03
          
          
            have any idea what this does to
a
          
                  
            21:04
          
          
            country when you say this kind
of stuff
          
                  
            21:06
          
          
            people freaked out over that
it's like
          
                  
            21:10
          
          
            then what is the what is the
equivalents
          
                  
            21:12
          
          
            on those kilometer per hour
numbers so
          
                  
            21:17
          
          
            it's 1.85 so I just put it in
the
          
                  
            21:20
          
          
            machine okay hey John put it in
the in
          
                  
            21:23
          
          
            the machine how much is 130
miles an
          
                  
            21:28
          
          
            hour
          
                  
            21:28
          
          
            homeowners an hour yeah 80 80
so they
          
                  
            21:31
          
          
            want to bring it back to what
is it
          
                  
            21:33
          
          
            65 62 I'm guessing 62 63
something like
          
                  
            21:43
          
          
            that
          
                  
            21:46
          
          
            the machine is very slow 62.1
there you
          
                  
            21:49
          
          
            go
          
                  
            21:50
          
          
            it's slow but accurate yes so
they want
          
                  
            21:54
          
          
            people to drive it basically 60
miles an
          
                  
            21:56
          
          
            hour instead of 80 yeah that VM
with the
          
                  
            22:00
          
          
            kind of traffic flows and how
long it
          
                  
            22:02
          
          
            takes people to get through
traffic here
          
                  
            22:04
          
          
            anyway that's that's a definite
social
          
                  
            22:07
          
          
            conversation and now they're
talking
          
                  
            22:09
          
          
            about bringing back the car
free Sundays
          
                  
            22:12
          
          
            which I remember when I in the
70s they
          
                  
            22:16
          
          
            had Sunday's where you weren't
allowed
          
                  
            22:18
          
          
            to drive it's just the whole
country did
          
                  
            22:20
          
          
            not it was in the paper today
they want
          
                  
            22:25
          
          
            to bring it back now here's
some other
          
                  
            22:28
          
          
            cool numbers for the climate
emergency
          
                  
            22:30
          
          
            it'll stop climate change
immediately
          
                  
            22:32
          
          
            gone this is seriously what
they're
          
                  
            22:35
          
          
            saying and otherwise of course
we're all
          
                  
            22:37
          
          
            going to die this the number of
electric
          
                  
            22:41
          
          
            vehicles in the Netherlands per
know
          
                  
            22:44
          
          
            thousand people or whatever the
metric
          
                  
            22:46
          
          
            is is more than double that of
any other
          
                  
            22:50
          
          
            country in the EU and for this
little
          
                  
            22:52
          
          
            country smaller than Rhode
Island twenty
          
                  
            22:55
          
          
            five of all charging stations
are of all
          
                  
            22:58
          
          
            charging stations in the
European Union
          
                  
            23:01
          
          
            are in the Netherlands
          
                  
            23:04
          
          
            they're just doing this I can
only see
          
                  
            23:07
          
          
            it as them doing for themselves
sounds
          
                  
            23:10
          
          
            like somebody did a great job
hello Elan
          
                  
            23:16
          
          
            doing some lobbying or creating
this
          
                  
            23:19
          
          
            nonsense this is what marketing
is
          
                  
            23:21
          
          
            really all about by the way
well for
          
                  
            23:23
          
          
            people out there wondering about
          
                  
            23:24
          
          
            marketing this is what
marketing is
          
                  
            23:26
          
          
            about well I'll tell you the
people are
          
                  
            23:28
          
          
            not liking it they are really
not buying
          
                  
            23:31
          
          
            it at all
          
                  
            23:32
          
          
            and we'll see ya there Jack well
          
                  
            23:37
          
          
            probably not but you know
everyone still
          
                  
            23:41
          
          
            is behind the farmers you know
they all
          
                  
            23:43
          
          
            like what the farmers did and
and
          
                  
            23:45
          
          
            there's a massive support for
the
          
                  
            23:48
          
          
            farmers rights if anyone can do
anything
          
                  
            23:51
          
          
            after all it the Dutch
government
          
                  
            23:53
          
          
            brought in the military they
were so
          
                  
            23:55
          
          
            afraid of the farmers coming to
the
          
                  
            23:56
          
          
            Hague now if anyone's gonna do
anything
          
                  
            23:59
          
          
            no then then it might be them
but for
          
                  
            24:04
          
          
            now maybe the Dutch are just
docile as
          
                  
            24:06
          
          
            ever I do have to connect to
this a
          
                  
            24:11
          
          
            couple of climate change things
that
          
                  
            24:13
          
          
            might make sense to just go
into for a
          
                  
            24:15
          
          
            moment well I'm all game we
have a new
          
                  
            24:19
          
          
            reporters out
          
                  
            24:22
          
          
            11,000 scientists worldwide
warning of
          
                  
            24:27
          
          
            catastrophic threats to
humanity 8th and
          
                  
            24:31
          
          
            this is really a fear-mongering
rotation
          
                  
            24:33
          
          
            item what we'd really like to
see though
          
                  
            24:35
          
          
            is governments using the
indicators that
          
                  
            24:37
          
          
            we've reported in our paper the
          
                  
            24:39
          
          
            indicators we put there are
quite broad
          
                  
            24:41
          
          
            and track all of the different
things
          
                  
            24:43
          
          
            that are interlinked with
climate change
          
                  
            24:45
          
          
            and I think these broad
indicators can
          
                  
            24:48
          
          
            help governments to paint a
picture
          
                  
            24:49
          
          
            about how they are dealing with
the
          
                  
            24:51
          
          
            threat of climate change we
outline six
          
                  
            24:54
          
          
            kind of critical key steps that
we think
          
                  
            24:56
          
          
            are necessary to reducing
greenhouse gas
          
                  
            24:59
          
          
            emissions and top of that list
is a
          
                  
            25:03
          
          
            switch or a move away from
fossil fuels
          
                  
            25:06
          
          
            to using more renewable energy
sources
          
                  
            25:09
          
          
            and also one thing that risen
really
          
                  
            25:12
          
          
            isn't considered in detail when
talking
          
                  
            25:14
          
          
            about climate change is human
population
          
                  
            25:17
          
          
            growth and we need to factor in
human
          
                  
            25:19
          
          
            population growth when thinking
about
          
                  
            25:21
          
          
            the policies and government
directions
          
                  
            25:24
          
          
            in dealing with climate change
I think
          
                  
            25:26
          
          
            we're back to eat your babies
because
          
                  
            25:27
          
          
            this is the problem there's too
many
          
                  
            25:29
          
          
            people we're back to the
Population Bomb
          
                  
            25:33
          
          
            yeah I think we've been back to
I think
          
                  
            25:35
          
          
            we were at the Population Bomb
the whole
          
                  
            25:38
          
          
            time
          
                  
            25:40
          
          
            I really left it and I think
climate
          
                  
            25:42
          
          
            change is just another version
of it
          
                  
            25:44
          
          
            well it's it seems to be the
guys still
          
                  
            25:46
          
          
            alive pronouncing saying the
same stuff
          
                  
            25:48
          
          
            nor what net seems it seems to
be the
          
                  
            25:51
          
          
            message once again said up shut
up
          
                  
            25:54
          
          
            slaves there's too many of you
and that
          
                  
            25:57
          
          
            was the what I understood was
eaters yes
          
                  
            26:00
          
          
            that that's what I saw is the
as the
          
                  
            26:06
          
          
            yeah the main driver of this
report is
          
                  
            26:08
          
          
            it has too many people too many
people
          
                  
            26:10
          
          
            so then we have the protests of
course
          
                  
            26:15
          
          
            extinction rebellion is
reasonably well
          
                  
            26:18
          
          
            known here they have they have
some
          
                  
            26:23
          
          
            things going on in the
Netherlands of
          
                  
            26:25
          
          
            course the UK is where it's
really
          
                  
            26:26
          
          
            taking place but we do have a
group in
          
                  
            26:28
          
          
            the United States who was
affiliated
          
                  
            26:30
          
          
            trying to really get some
attention for
          
                  
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            this and they this is the fire
drill
          
                  
            26:35
          
          
            Friday's which I think I
mentioned on
          
                  
            26:38
          
          
            the previous show no I did Jane
Fonda is
          
                  
            26:41
          
          
            a member of fire drill Fridays
and they
          
                  
            26:44
          
          
            now yes and now they send out
media
          
                  
            26:47
          
          
            alerts and I have a media alert
here
          
                  
            26:51
          
          
            from you know this is what you
do you
          
                  
            26:53
          
          
            you have a can you buy these
lists or D
          
                  
            26:57
          
          
            is there a central place that
you can
          
                  
            26:59
          
          
            pay to send your media alert to
John
          
                  
            27:01
          
          
            yeah yeah there's about three
or four of
          
                  
            27:03
          
          
            them and what does a lot of
companies
          
                  
            27:04
          
          
            will do it what does that cost
that
          
                  
            27:06
          
          
            expensive to put out a media
advisory no
          
                  
            27:09
          
          
            it's not it's not expensive at
all it's
          
                  
            27:12
          
          
            actually it's pretty cheap so
here's
          
                  
            27:14
          
          
            what it came in for for fire
drill
          
                  
            27:17
          
          
            Friday media media advisory for
action
          
                  
            27:20
          
          
            action action on November 8
Jane Fonda
          
                  
            27:23
          
          
            will risk arrest sounds like
they're
          
                  
            27:31
          
          
            trying to make her sound like
Houdini
          
                  
            27:35
          
          
            she's so brave she'll risk this
is so I
          
                  
            27:39
          
          
            think I said the last time I
really like
          
                  
            27:42
          
          
            Jane Fonda this is a ho so hard
but she
          
                  
            27:45
          
          
            went on the view to talk about
this and
          
                  
            27:49
          
          
            I just had to share this this
clip to
          
                  
            27:52
          
          
            see I mean she's all she's
          
                  
            27:54
          
          
            we're all gonna die and then at
the end
          
                  
            27:56
          
          
            something interesting happens
which I
          
                  
            27:58
          
          
            think Oh take us into another
topic but
          
                  
            28:01
          
          
            are you are you trying to tell
the next
          
                  
            28:02
          
          
            generation coming up go as far
as you
          
                  
            28:04
          
          
            can break the law get arrested
do what
          
                  
            28:06
          
          
            you need to do well I am
following what
          
                  
            28:09
          
          
            the young people are doing I'm
not
          
                  
            28:10
          
          
            telling them they're inspiring
me not
          
                  
            28:12
          
          
            just Greta Doon Berg Berg Berg
this is
          
                  
            28:21
          
          
            the best one ever
          
                  
            28:22
          
          
            and they're inspiring me not
just Greta
          
                  
            28:24
          
          
            dune Berg Greta doom bug doom
burn
          
                  
            28:32
          
          
            they're inspiring me not just
greta dune
          
                  
            28:35
          
          
            burn no it's doom berg there we
go
          
                  
            28:38
          
          
            that's a doom bird I'm telling
them
          
                  
            28:44
          
          
            they're inspiring me not just
greta doom
          
                  
            28:47
          
          
            berg the swedish student but
the sunrise
          
                  
            28:51
          
          
            movement the extinction
movement I mean
          
                  
            28:54
          
          
            all these young people who are
leaving
          
                  
            28:56
          
          
            school to protest their future
that
          
                  
            28:58
          
          
            we're taking from them and
they're a
          
                  
            29:01
          
          
            huge inspiration to me see
these young
          
                  
            29:03
          
          
            people carrying the burden of
protesting
          
                  
            29:05
          
          
            the fossil fuel industry I say
no no
          
                  
            29:08
          
          
            we've got to get out there and
join them
          
                  
            29:10
          
          
            and do it without breaking the
law you
          
                  
            29:13
          
          
            think of all the peaceful
protests that
          
                  
            29:14
          
          
            have led to change I worry
about living
          
                  
            29:16
          
          
            in an uncivil society oh no I
agree with
          
                  
            29:19
          
          
            you but you know something
climate
          
                  
            29:20
          
          
            activists have been doing this
for 40
          
                  
            29:23
          
          
            years we've been writing
articles and
          
                  
            29:24
          
          
            we've been giving speeches then
climate
          
                  
            29:27
          
          
            shame she says climate
activists a bit
          
                  
            29:33
          
          
            doing this for 40 years and the
climate
          
                  
            29:36
          
          
            has not change 40 years we've
been
          
                  
            29:38
          
          
            writing articles and we've been
giving
          
                  
            29:41
          
          
            speeches we've been putting the
facts
          
                  
            29:43
          
          
            out to the American public and
          
                  
            29:45
          
          
            politicians and we've marched
and we've
          
                  
            29:47
          
          
            rallied peacefully and here
comes the
          
                  
            29:50
          
          
            fossil fuel industry is doing
more and
          
                  
            29:53
          
          
            more and more to harm us in our
          
                  
            29:54
          
          
            environment and the our young
people's
          
                  
            29:57
          
          
            futures and so we have to up
the ante
          
                  
            29:59
          
          
            and engage in civil
disobedience which
          
                  
            30:01
          
          
            means risking getting arrested
and
          
                  
            30:03
          
          
            because it's going to require
more
          
                  
            30:06
          
          
            more and more and more people
like all
          
                  
            30:07
          
          
            of you in the streets demanding
even the
          
                  
            30:11
          
          
            scientists nerdy and neutral
but even
          
                  
            30:17
          
          
            the scientists the climate
scientists
          
                  
            30:20
          
          
            sir do you hear what I hear
          
                  
            30:24
          
          
            but did I know what listen
carefully
          
                  
            30:28
          
          
            [Applause]
          
                  
            30:32
          
          
            neutral but is she saying
scientists or
          
                  
            30:35
          
          
            she saying scientists I think
she's
          
                  
            30:39
          
          
            saying a guy played a couple
she's
          
                  
            30:41
          
          
            saying scientists scientists
John she's
          
                  
            30:52
          
          
            been infected Jane Fonda well
she's been
          
                  
            30:58
          
          
            infected with the T drop thing
she's
          
                  
            31:03
          
          
            she's hanging out with doom
Berg and
          
                  
            31:05
          
          
            before you know it you start
speaking
          
                  
            31:07
          
          
            like this nerdy a neutral but
even the
          
                  
            31:12
          
          
            scientists this is we're not
going to be
          
                  
            31:17
          
          
            able to turn it around we have
eleven
          
                  
            31:19
          
          
            years to avoid people just by
the
          
                  
            31:25
          
          
            millions in the streets folks
out there
          
                  
            31:28
          
          
            we only have Olivia eleven
years they've
          
                  
            31:31
          
          
            been doing this for 40 years
have me
          
                  
            31:33
          
          
            only now we have 11 left but to
hear
          
                  
            31:36
          
          
            Jane Fonda
          
                  
            31:39
          
          
            start to drop her T's is
employed well I
          
                  
            31:45
          
          
            this is this was the most
responded to
          
                  
            31:48
          
          
            topic from the last show was we
had a
          
                  
            31:53
          
          
            lot of a lot of a lot of people
I do
          
                  
            31:56
          
          
            have one clip to add to that I
want to
          
                  
            31:59
          
          
            play this clip tell me if you
can figure
          
                  
            32:00
          
          
            out the what might be happening
here
          
                  
            32:04
          
          
            I think I cheated a little bit
mm-hmm
          
                  
            32:08
          
          
            let me find the clip just grab
my clip
          
                  
            32:11
          
          
            list here
          
                  
            32:13
          
          
            and of course I can't find
anything very
          
                  
            32:17
          
          
            slick oh yeah I knew I'm not
pulling at
          
                  
            32:20
          
          
            you but you build up the clip
and then
          
                  
            32:24
          
          
            don't find no build up no build
up here
          
                  
            32:28
          
          
            ladies and gentlemen who build
up
          
                  
            32:32
          
          
            pal brother
          
                  
            32:35
          
          
            no oh don't tell me you forgot
it no I I
          
                  
            32:40
          
          
            just don't see I don't think I
forgot it
          
                  
            32:45
          
          
            okay well go on with your story
well you
          
                  
            32:47
          
          
            keep looking at it maybe hey
people show
          
                  
            32:50
          
          
            up well there was some more
vocal fry'
          
                  
            32:52
          
          
            that identified and then and I
would
          
                  
            32:54
          
          
            like to share a piece a couple
fees
          
                  
            32:56
          
          
            pieces of faeces of peed back
some
          
                  
            32:58
          
          
            pieces let me guess was it
unplugged
          
                  
            33:02
          
          
            yeah that's the one I had
queued up I
          
                  
            33:05
          
          
            guessed it right does it need
to set up
          
                  
            33:07
          
          
            well this is a podcast called
unplugged
          
                  
            33:11
          
          
            and it pretty much like use a
lot of No
          
                  
            33:14
          
          
            Agenda themes and but they're a
little
          
                  
            33:16
          
          
            more or I'd say less serious
generally
          
                  
            33:20
          
          
            speaking and and there's a lot
of tea
          
                  
            33:22
          
          
            dropping on book from both the
female
          
                  
            33:25
          
          
            and the male that they've kind
of flirty
          
                  
            33:27
          
          
            with each other and they but
they
          
                  
            33:29
          
          
            dropped teas all over the place
but I'm
          
                  
            33:31
          
          
            gonna say if you can spot this
one if
          
                  
            33:33
          
          
            you think about this for a
second though
          
                  
            33:35
          
          
            if we thought this about let's
say
          
                  
            33:38
          
          
            Clinton won god forbid and we
thought
          
                  
            33:40
          
          
            that about how she was elected
wouldn't
          
                  
            33:43
          
          
            you understand their outrage
like we be
          
                  
            33:48
          
          
            equally as outraged if we had
lost the
          
                  
            33:51
          
          
            election and we had been told
over and
          
                  
            33:54
          
          
            over again or been misled to
believe
          
                  
            33:56
          
          
            that it was because Clinton was
working
          
                  
            33:59
          
          
            with Russia and Russia hacked
the voting
          
                  
            34:02
          
          
            machines to change the vote
totals oh
          
                  
            34:03
          
          
            absolutely but this one I say
all the
          
                  
            34:07
          
          
            time the the cycle this this is
exam in
          
                  
            34:10
          
          
            hand-in-glove is why
psychological
          
                  
            34:13
          
          
            warfare was important important
          
                  
            34:16
          
          
            important that was very
important
          
                  
            34:23
          
          
            exactly so this is rampant I
have one
          
                  
            34:27
          
          
            more clip to play which is both
a
          
                  
            34:31
          
          
            millennial speak in and a vocal
fry' and
          
                  
            34:33
          
          
            a tea drop it's like it's like
the
          
                  
            34:35
          
          
            triple threat this was a the
new meme
          
                  
            34:39
          
          
            which came from I forget which
actors it
          
                  
            34:42
          
          
            came from it is self partnering
and did
          
                  
            34:45
          
          
            you hear about this fabulous
Emma Watson
          
                  
            34:48
          
          
            Emma Watson Weymouth culture
the woman
          
                  
            34:50
          
          
            you will hear this is on the
BBC the
          
                  
            34:52
          
          
            woman who will be is being
interviewed
          
                  
            34:54
          
          
            is from The Washington Post a
serious
          
                  
            34:58
          
          
            news publications winneth
Paltrow came
          
                  
            35:00
          
          
            up with the term conscious
uncoupling
          
                  
            35:02
          
          
            when she was getting divorced
now we've
          
                  
            35:03
          
          
            got Emma Watson saying she's
self
          
                  
            35:06
          
          
            partnered why this desire to
come up
          
                  
            35:08
          
          
            with a new term to describe
being single
          
                  
            35:11
          
          
            sure I think the word single
sometimes
          
                  
            35:13
          
          
            doesn't convey the richness and
fullness
          
                  
            35:16
          
          
            that can happen in a single
person's
          
                  
            35:18
          
          
            life it doesn't acknowledge the
fact
          
                  
            35:21
          
          
            that a single person might have
really
          
                  
            35:23
          
          
            healthy friendships and family
thinking
          
                  
            35:34
          
          
            about moving because she she's
asked the
          
                  
            35:37
          
          
            question and she says sure
which is
          
                  
            35:39
          
          
            another one of things that we
just think
          
                  
            35:42
          
          
            I just I there was so much I
mean I just
          
                  
            35:44
          
          
            wanted to give you a couple
things to
          
                  
            35:45
          
          
            listen to but yeah this sure
was in
          
                  
            35:47
          
          
            there as well like healthy
friendships
          
                  
            35:49
          
          
            and family and you know here at
the
          
                  
            35:53
          
          
            Washington Post a couple of
years ago we
          
                  
            35:54
          
          
            coined a term so Louis their own
          
                  
            36:02
          
          
            fulfilling relationships beyond
a
          
                  
            36:05
          
          
            partner more euphemistic way of
kind of
          
                  
            36:09
          
          
            describing a state that I mean
you're
          
                  
            36:12
          
          
            still single at the end of the
day you
          
                  
            36:14
          
          
            know it's hard to know why Emma
chose
          
                  
            36:17
          
          
            the term is resonating with
people on
          
                  
            36:20
          
          
            Twitter and stuff sometimes in
a joking
          
                  
            36:22
          
          
            way people saying that you know
they're
          
                  
            36:25
          
          
            gonna tell their nosy relatives
when
          
                  
            36:26
          
          
            they inquire they're dating
lives that
          
                  
            36:28
          
          
            their self partnered but I
think her a
          
                  
            36:31
          
          
            chance to say like no I'm happy
single
          
                  
            36:33
          
          
            and sometimes the word single
can sound
          
                  
            36:37
          
          
            like something is lacking or
that a
          
                  
            36:40
          
          
            person is looking for a partner
and
          
                  
            36:41
          
          
            that's not always the case so
plenty of
          
                  
            36:44
          
          
            single people are happy that
way and
          
                  
            36:47
          
          
            self partnered might be a good
way to
          
                  
            36:48
          
          
            describe that yeah so that was
a combo
          
                  
            36:51
          
          
            Hummer
          
                  
            36:52
          
          
            she's a how much although which
one this
          
                  
            36:54
          
          
            is like one she never stops
making noise
          
                  
            36:57
          
          
            and then she said she said
Twitter and
          
                  
            37:01
          
          
            stuff
          
                  
            37:03
          
          
            yes and read about on Twitter
and stuff
          
                  
            37:08
          
          
            no that's the Washington Post
for you so
          
                  
            37:11
          
          
            we had this conversation about
this tea
          
                  
            37:14
          
          
            dropping and a lot of people
wrote in
          
                  
            37:15
          
          
            and and and here's what
bothered me is
          
                  
            37:19
          
          
            we had only just gone through
this phase
          
                  
            37:22
          
          
            of being excoriated a few years
ago the
          
                  
            37:25
          
          
            people saying I remember that
it was
          
                  
            37:27
          
          
            kind of like oh you know that's
          
                  
            37:28
          
          
            misogynist or that remember
that John
          
                  
            37:31
          
          
            was just a brief moment where
people
          
                  
            37:32
          
          
            were pushing back on it and
then it kind
          
                  
            37:35
          
          
            of went away got pushed away
and and no
          
                  
            37:38
          
          
            one talked about it so I was
very
          
                  
            37:39
          
          
            surprised when we were called
out for
          
                  
            37:42
          
          
            being racist and misogynist
because
          
                  
            37:45
          
          
            that's pretty much what the the
          
                  
            37:47
          
          
            linguists professor said and I
wanted to
          
                  
            37:52
          
          
            play a report that I think we
might have
          
                  
            37:55
          
          
            played from 2013 so only six
years ago
          
                  
            37:58
          
          
            not that long ago and this is
not a
          
                  
            38:01
          
          
            podcast this is CBS CBS this
morning
          
                  
            38:04
          
          
            it's mainstream television this
is how
          
                  
            38:07
          
          
            they dealt with it six years
ago pretty
          
                  
            38:10
          
          
            much the same thing we got
excoriated
          
                  
            38:12
          
          
            for just four days ago
America's young
          
                  
            38:15
          
          
            women are running out of oxygen
what
          
                  
            38:18
          
          
            else could explain why so many
of them
          
                  
            38:20
          
          
            sound like this you know motto
          
                  
            38:29
          
          
            you know motto Kim and Chloe
just don't
          
                  
            38:32
          
          
            get it get it get it believe it
or not
          
                  
            38:34
          
          
            there's a scientific term for
the way a
          
                  
            38:37
          
          
            Kardashian speaks and it's
vocal fry'
          
                  
            38:41
          
          
            it's a low creaky vibration
produced by
          
                  
            38:44
          
          
            a fluttering of the vocal cords
speech
          
                  
            38:46
          
          
            pathologists call it a disorder
that
          
                  
            38:48
          
          
            verges on vocal abuse and
here's what it
          
                  
            38:51
          
          
            looks like
          
                  
            38:53
          
          
            call it a quirk a trend or an
epidemic
          
                  
            38:56
          
          
            vocal fry' is everywhere I'm
not staying
          
                  
            39:00
          
          
            here tonight tonight the only
reason why
          
                  
            39:01
          
          
            I'm going is just like network
network a
          
                  
            39:03
          
          
            recent study of women in
college found
          
                  
            39:06
          
          
            that two-thirds of them use this
          
                  
            39:07
          
          
            globalization which explains
why the fry
          
                  
            39:10
          
          
            is a sizzling topic in The New
York
          
                  
            39:13
          
          
            Times on morning TV you sound
something
          
                  
            39:16
          
          
            like this even for an NPR host
it's
          
                  
            39:21
          
          
            annoying I mean it's really
annoying
          
                  
            39:25
          
          
            when I was a tween in the early
80s the
          
                  
            39:29
          
          
            Bali girl was born she brought
us like
          
                  
            39:31
          
          
            and up talk and there's been
like a
          
                  
            39:33
          
          
            general cultural agreement that
like at
          
                  
            39:35
          
          
            that kind of speech leaves the
user
          
                  
            39:37
          
          
            sounding air heady and
unprofessional
          
                  
            39:39
          
          
            but vocal fry' is unique because
          
                  
            39:43
          
          
            researchers have found that
women who
          
                  
            39:45
          
          
            talk this way are seen by their
peers as
          
                  
            39:47
          
          
            educated urban oriented and
upwardly
          
                  
            39:50
          
          
            mobile you love him I need to
totally
          
                  
            39:53
          
          
            complimented you complemented
you some
          
                  
            39:55
          
          
            linguists even suggest that
creaky young
          
                  
            39:58
          
          
            ladies are evolving our culture
as
          
                  
            40:00
          
          
            linguistic innovators Tyler has
a pretty
          
                  
            40:02
          
          
            good reputation in this business
          
                  
            40:04
          
          
            business
          
                  
            40:05
          
          
            well metaphorically I encourage
every
          
                  
            40:08
          
          
            woman to find her voice I'm
just made at
          
                  
            40:11
          
          
            how low it can go on my
sixteenth
          
                  
            40:14
          
          
            birthday birthday I'm burned
out on the
          
                  
            40:16
          
          
            fry it sounds underwhelmed and
          
                  
            40:18
          
          
            disengaged it's annoying to
listen to a
          
                  
            40:22
          
          
            young woman who sounds
world-weary and
          
                  
            40:24
          
          
            exactly like her 14 best
friends I just
          
                  
            40:29
          
          
            find that very interesting that
this was
          
                  
            40:31
          
          
            kind of dealt with six years
ago and you
          
                  
            40:33
          
          
            ordered everyone was
complaining about
          
                  
            40:35
          
          
            it New York Times NPR everybody
said
          
                  
            40:39
          
          
            this is dumb it makes you sound
dumb and
          
                  
            40:41
          
          
            somehow just no no no no you
can't tell
          
                  
            40:46
          
          
            anyone that's wrong that's just
just
          
                  
            40:49
          
          
            racist
          
                  
            40:52
          
          
            so what was your favorite piece
of
          
                  
            40:55
          
          
            feedback you got from this
dropping of
          
                  
            40:58
          
          
            tea specifically the dropping
of tea
          
                  
            41:00
          
          
            almost everybody the baby my
favourite
          
                  
            41:03
          
          
            fee being just in general or
people
          
                  
            41:05
          
          
            coming and saying I've been in
this
          
                  
            41:06
          
          
            field and this is being taught
as by
          
                  
            41:08
          
          
            this I can sjw thing that's a
sidelight
          
                  
            41:11
          
          
            it's not really true
linguistics weirdo
          
                  
            41:13
          
          
            or on the side of Noam Chomsky
who's the
          
                  
            41:16
          
          
            father of modern linguistics
and this
          
                  
            41:17
          
          
            guy's full of crap and he
shouldn't even
          
                  
            41:19
          
          
            be teaching us kinda stuff you
beginning
          
                  
            41:22
          
          
            but a lot of people said they
don't have
          
                  
            41:25
          
          
            one specifically to read I do
have
          
                  
            41:27
          
          
            something that that guy wrote
that I
          
                  
            41:29
          
          
            thought was funny where he
referred to
          
                  
            41:31
          
          
            one of the wimped one of the
clips of
          
                  
            41:34
          
          
            the women that we played as a
they know
          
                  
            41:37
          
          
            I don't remember that was it
and then
          
                  
            41:40
          
          
            they refer to she they instead
of she
          
                  
            41:50
          
          
            when it's a note when it's a
woman and
          
                  
            41:53
          
          
            we would normally go along with
the
          
                  
            41:54
          
          
            pronator woman's talking the
woman is
          
                  
            41:57
          
          
            the she not of a and then to
assume
          
                  
            42:00
          
          
            there are they this makes this
I mean to
          
                  
            42:03
          
          
            say they without somebody
telling you
          
                  
            42:06
          
          
            their personal pronoun is
violence very
          
                  
            42:09
          
          
            presumptuous the violation of
all of all
          
                  
            42:11
          
          
            terms and conditions I mean you
just say
          
                  
            42:14
          
          
            she goes right across it's like
I'll use
          
                  
            42:16
          
          
            she but to took throw they and
out of
          
                  
            42:19
          
          
            the blue it seemed to me to be
          
                  
            42:22
          
          
            presumptuous and also like just
a virtue
          
                  
            42:26
          
          
            signaling like I really was not
          
                  
            42:28
          
          
            impressed with this guy that
he's a
          
                  
            42:31
          
          
            professor of linguistics at a
          
                  
            42:34
          
          
            prestigious school yeah it
makes it even
          
                  
            42:37
          
          
            more did is this almost
depressing and
          
                  
            42:41
          
          
            one is here and I want to put
this guy
          
                  
            42:44
          
          
            down know naman no but well so
I think
          
                  
            42:47
          
          
            the general consensus was what
he was
          
                  
            42:49
          
          
            saying is you know this is
prescriptive
          
                  
            42:53
          
          
            and not the not defining so
language is
          
                  
            42:57
          
          
            always alive and it changes and
it
          
                  
            42:59
          
          
            morphs and and this is true
there's no
          
                  
            43:01
          
          
            doubt about it and you know you
don't
          
                  
            43:03
          
          
            hear us complaining too much
anymore
          
                  
            43:05
          
          
            about words that have
completely taken
          
                  
            43:07
          
          
            on new meaning but gay is an
excellent
          
                  
            43:09
          
          
            example you know and was in my
lifetime
          
                  
            43:11
          
          
            that definitely meant something
else
          
                  
            43:13
          
          
            yeah men happy right and and
yes and so
          
                  
            43:17
          
          
            you know but it's okay so we we
go along
          
                  
            43:19
          
          
            with a lot of things but
language change
          
                  
            43:21
          
          
            is not because someone says
this is how
          
                  
            43:25
          
          
            we're doing it shut up old
white men cuz
          
                  
            43:27
          
          
            that's the message I got was
yeah it was
          
                  
            43:31
          
          
            the message
          
                  
            43:31
          
          
            yeah it's like you know your
language
          
                  
            43:34
          
          
            changes and you're in the way
no that's
          
                  
            43:36
          
          
            not the deal it's like the older
          
                  
            43:38
          
          
            generation not the way it works
now the
          
                  
            43:40
          
          
            older generation gets to gets
the grouse
          
                  
            43:42
          
          
            about it and push that the older
          
                  
            43:44
          
          
            generation is
          
                  
            43:45
          
          
            part of the reason some of
these things
          
                  
            43:47
          
          
            never change yes yes it's our
it's our
          
                  
            43:50
          
          
            duty our civic duty I like the
analogy
          
                  
            43:53
          
          
            of human language is more
similar to
          
                  
            43:57
          
          
            fashion than it is to C++ and
that kind
          
                  
            44:00
          
          
            of resonated in my brain I
think yeah
          
                  
            44:01
          
          
            that's true
          
                  
            44:02
          
          
            there were two other comments
that I
          
                  
            44:05
          
          
            thought were interesting and
one related
          
                  
            44:08
          
          
            not just to the the glottis I
Glatt to
          
                  
            44:10
          
          
            the glottis ization easy for
you to say
          
                  
            44:14
          
          
            that's not but two vocal fry'
now one of
          
                  
            44:18
          
          
            our producers says a friend of
mine is a
          
                  
            44:19
          
          
            former heroin user and has
observed
          
                  
            44:22
          
          
            people's voices change when
they start
          
                  
            44:24
          
          
            using heroin dropping into
vocal fry' he
          
                  
            44:27
          
          
            says he can almost instantly
spot a
          
                  
            44:29
          
          
            heroin user based on their
voice and has
          
                  
            44:32
          
          
            called out people who've
confirmed that
          
                  
            44:33
          
          
            they started using now my
question is
          
                  
            44:37
          
          
            does that go for oxy as well
does it go
          
                  
            44:39
          
          
            forward you know or does it
have to be
          
                  
            44:41
          
          
            you know your main not into
heroin it
          
                  
            44:44
          
          
            doesn't quite surprise me
because they
          
                  
            44:46
          
          
            used to be and I still have
some of this
          
                  
            44:48
          
          
            I've never done this again but
I could
          
                  
            44:51
          
          
            because I kept it there was a
cough
          
                  
            44:53
          
          
            syrup out there called ventolin
mm-hmm
          
                  
            44:56
          
          
            and I had some issues with my
life some
          
                  
            44:59
          
          
            no no this decades ago and if
you take
          
                  
            45:02
          
          
            this let me take this stuff it
doesn't
          
                  
            45:05
          
          
            only give us your vocal fry'
uh-huh but
          
                  
            45:07
          
          
            I personally sound exactly like
Henry
          
                  
            45:10
          
          
            Kissinger oh man you got it you
got it
          
                  
            45:12
          
          
            you got to do a hit the problem
is is
          
                  
            45:15
          
          
            that it takes hours and hours
to go away
          
                  
            45:17
          
          
            you are you hammered when you
take it or
          
                  
            45:21
          
          
            the fry takes hours to go away
yeah the
          
                  
            45:24
          
          
            fry takes hours to go away what
comes to
          
                  
            45:26
          
          
            really have to be completely
moved and I
          
                  
            45:28
          
          
            don't know if it has anything
to do it
          
                  
            45:29
          
          
            just my reaction to this
particular
          
                  
            45:31
          
          
            whatever chemical is in this
cough syrup
          
                  
            45:34
          
          
            but I just have like this just
complete
          
                  
            45:40
          
          
            but it's like it's like that
with with
          
                  
            45:43
          
          
            amplitude nice is the
difference I can't
          
                  
            45:46
          
          
            amplitude I can make this sound
but I
          
                  
            45:50
          
          
            can't good at high
amplification which I
          
                  
            45:52
          
          
            can't with that stuff cool and
it's
          
                  
            45:54
          
          
            distressing I'll have to try
some you
          
                  
            45:56
          
          
            breathe air maybe getting it
stuck like
          
                  
            45:58
          
          
            after tries oh oh this was the
best
          
                  
            46:02
          
          
            response and it actually struck
me is
          
                  
            46:04
          
          
            with maybe even not as he
intended it a
          
                  
            46:07
          
          
            gentlemen fantastic language
segment a
          
                  
            46:09
          
          
            minor come it I believe the
dropping T's
          
                  
            46:12
          
          
            issue is more of a neglect of
ends in
          
                  
            46:17
          
          
            reference to words of important
Mountain
          
                  
            46:20
          
          
            the real letter at issue is the
N I get
          
                  
            46:24
          
          
            I agree this is the best letter
read
          
                  
            46:26
          
          
            that yes read this
          
                  
            46:28
          
          
            I'd guess this n neglect has
something
          
                  
            46:31
          
          
            to do with the youth regarding
the nasal
          
                  
            46:33
          
          
            aspect of the N as sounding not
          
                  
            46:36
          
          
            sufficiently hip or to square
or maybe
          
                  
            46:40
          
          
            it's a Sybil f-for anti-french
sentiment
          
                  
            46:43
          
          
            which was that he threw in
there but
          
                  
            46:46
          
          
            these were these the words
where it does
          
                  
            46:48
          
          
            show up important and mountain
and what
          
                  
            46:52
          
          
            you what you're getting when
you say
          
                  
            46:54
          
          
            mountain and important is
you're getting
          
                  
            46:57
          
          
            a different end so when you're
saying
          
                  
            46:59
          
          
            importance if you're getting I
in I
          
                  
            47:01
          
          
            think it's actually even bigger
than
          
                  
            47:03
          
          
            that what he's discussing
you're getting
          
                  
            47:05
          
          
            that is so it's important yeah
and it's
          
                  
            47:09
          
          
            always an in or at Mount Hope
again the
          
                  
            47:12
          
          
            kind in sucking in the end
point it's in
          
                  
            47:16
          
          
            basically the word in is it
suits weird
          
                  
            47:19
          
          
            they don't want to say n in a
normal
          
                  
            47:21
          
          
            fashion by his thesis and I
think
          
                  
            47:23
          
          
            there's something to this I
have a
          
                  
            47:25
          
          
            theory what if your entire life
you were
          
                  
            47:30
          
          
            told you can say anything you
want
          
                  
            47:35
          
          
            except the n-word
          
                  
            47:39
          
          
            could it do that that that
could be that
          
                  
            47:45
          
          
            that is stuck in people's
brains to such
          
                  
            47:48
          
          
            a degree import and even when
the end
          
                  
            47:51
          
          
            Mount and it's the same n as
the as the
          
                  
            47:54
          
          
            N word could it be that that is
what's
          
                  
            47:57
          
          
            going on
          
                  
            47:58
          
          
            no look Elms of possibility
thank you
          
                  
            48:06
          
          
            I think this is my my theory
and I'm
          
                  
            48:10
          
          
            sticking to it
          
                  
            48:13
          
          
            they're afraid of the n-word
you say you
          
                  
            48:16
          
          
            don't say curtain curtain
curtain Chris
          
                  
            48:18
          
          
            take Kurt and curtain curtain
curtain
          
                  
            48:23
          
          
            curtain curtain
          
                  
            48:25
          
          
            it's her end it's a mystery is
what it
          
                  
            48:29
          
          
            is it's a dang mystery well
let's think
          
                  
            48:33
          
          
            about a few like the word
important you
          
                  
            48:36
          
          
            don't have to really say the T
to get
          
                  
            48:38
          
          
            the word out I mean it could be
          
                  
            48:39
          
          
            important it's very important
it's very
          
                  
            48:41
          
          
            important important yeah that's
the
          
                  
            48:44
          
          
            difference okay I don't say
important
          
                  
            48:46
          
          
            I say important but not yes oh
you don't
          
                  
            48:52
          
          
            choke it up you don't choke to
choke the
          
                  
            48:54
          
          
            word out just stop it
          
                  
            48:56
          
          
            stop it children stop it
          
                  
            48:59
          
          
            enough this needs more
discussion
          
                  
            49:01
          
          
            obviously yeah because it's
we've been
          
                  
            49:04
          
          
            talking about that you found
that old
          
                  
            49:06
          
          
            clip thank you mm-hmm
          
                  
            49:07
          
          
            we've been talking about
obviously for
          
                  
            49:09
          
          
            at least three or four years
yeah well
          
                  
            49:12
          
          
            no so I guess I'm vocal frying
my voice
          
                  
            49:15
          
          
            do you do come on Courtney all
right so
          
                  
            49:20
          
          
            what's going on over there
you're only
          
                  
            49:21
          
          
            eight thousand miles away you
sound
          
                  
            49:23
          
          
            pretty good for that distance
the fires
          
                  
            49:27
          
          
            are out for their continued
100% oh
          
                  
            49:29
          
          
            really oh that's good news and
it's it's
          
                  
            49:32
          
          
            the power on fuckers on you or
the
          
                  
            49:35
          
          
            powers been on here I don't
know we're
          
                  
            49:37
          
          
            just probably still off
someplace
          
                  
            49:41
          
          
            nothing there's nothing I think
they're
          
                  
            49:43
          
          
            trying to impeach Trump
          
                  
            49:46
          
          
            yeah you know I have not missed
seeing
          
                  
            49:48
          
          
            that 24/7 and it's just it's
really been
          
                  
            49:52
          
          
            so nice I mean it's of course
you're
          
                  
            49:54
          
          
            looking at other death and
destruction
          
                  
            49:55
          
          
            we're all gonna die but as
Lisa's not
          
                  
            49:57
          
          
            impeached Trump it's just it's
          
                  
            50:00
          
          
            refreshing Oh some some other
shit is
          
                  
            50:02
          
          
            going on in the world yeah what
do you
          
                  
            50:06
          
          
            got any updating is preferable
okay I
          
                  
            50:08
          
          
            will say this by the way
today's Zephyr
          
                  
            50:10
          
          
            trim was only seven cars long
no there's
          
                  
            50:13
          
          
            something wrong I think so you
know you
          
                  
            50:15
          
          
            could do a stock chart forecast
it could
          
                  
            50:21
          
          
            be the Dvorak Zephyr report and
based
          
                  
            50:24
          
          
            upon how many cars the Zephyr
had on
          
                  
            50:27
          
          
            average could you could have
better
          
                  
            50:30
          
          
            economic numbers than than
anyone else
          
                  
            50:34
          
          
            in fact yes I could so I don't
like
          
                  
            50:37
          
          
            seven it was low seven is low
seven the
          
                  
            50:39
          
          
            lowest I've ever seen low count
well let
          
                  
            50:43
          
          
            me tell you what I got about the
          
                  
            50:45
          
          
            impeachment stuff I only have
two things
          
                  
            50:47
          
          
            that that were that I caught
over here
          
                  
            50:51
          
          
            and one is about the
whistleblower who I
          
                  
            50:56
          
          
            guess we still don't know who
it is or
          
                  
            50:58
          
          
            we think we know who it is but
we're not
          
                  
            51:00
          
          
            supposed to say that drawing a
name
          
                  
            51:02
          
          
            around right but you're not
allowed to
          
                  
            51:04
          
          
            say it because the
whistleblower has
          
                  
            51:06
          
          
            protections protections here's
Rand Paul
          
                  
            51:08
          
          
            who disagrees whistleblower
laws though
          
                  
            51:11
          
          
            they do protect a whistleblower
you know
          
                  
            51:13
          
          
            it's illegal to you see you got
the home
          
                  
            51:16
          
          
            to me you should here's the
thing yes
          
                  
            51:19
          
          
            the whistleblower statute
protects the
          
                  
            51:21
          
          
            whistleblower from having his
name
          
                  
            51:23
          
          
            revealed by the inspector
general even
          
                  
            51:25
          
          
            the New York Times admits that
no one
          
                  
            51:27
          
          
            else is under any legal
obligation the
          
                  
            51:29
          
          
            other point and you need to be
very
          
                  
            51:31
          
          
            careful if you really are
interested in
          
                  
            51:32
          
          
            the news is that the
whistleblower
          
                  
            51:34
          
          
            actually is a material witness
          
                  
            51:37
          
          
            completely separate from being
the
          
                  
            51:39
          
          
            whistleblower because he worked
for Joe
          
                  
            51:40
          
          
            Biden he worked for Joe Biden
at the
          
                  
            51:43
          
          
            same time hunter Biden is
receiving
          
                  
            51:44
          
          
            $50,000 a month so the
investigation
          
                  
            51:47
          
          
            into the corruption of hunter
Biden
          
                  
            51:49
          
          
            involves this whistleblower
because he
          
                  
            51:51
          
          
            was there at the time did he
bring up
          
                  
            51:53
          
          
            the conflict of interest was
there
          
                  
            51:55
          
          
            discussion of this what was his
          
                  
            51:56
          
          
            involvement with the
relationship
          
                  
            51:58
          
          
            between Joe Biden and the
prosecutors a
          
                  
            52:00
          
          
            lot of questions that
whistleblower
          
                  
            52:01
          
          
            needs to know there you go so I
guess
          
                  
            52:05
          
          
            that makes him a bad
whistleblower fakes
          
                  
            52:10
          
          
            that was phony about this West
          
                  
            52:11
          
          
            whistleblower of course but yeah
          
                  
            52:15
          
          
            everybody's on Rand Paul's
bandwagon
          
                  
            52:18
          
          
            first oh really always he is he
leading
          
                  
            52:20
          
          
            the charge finally on so he's
not
          
                  
            52:22
          
          
            leading the charge but he that
was a
          
                  
            52:24
          
          
            importance important statement
that he
          
                  
            52:28
          
          
            made and he all the right-wing
talkers
          
                  
            52:31
          
          
            are all well ran I don't I
don't agree
          
                  
            52:34
          
          
            with everything he's one of
these deals
          
                  
            52:35
          
          
            oh yeah I don't agree with
everything he
          
                  
            52:37
          
          
            says but exactly you know
what's gonna
          
                  
            52:41
          
          
            happen is we're gonna keep doing
          
                  
            52:42
          
          
            important and you know it's
gonna become
          
                  
            52:45
          
          
            language and then people are
gonna hate
          
                  
            52:46
          
          
            us
          
                  
            52:47
          
          
            should be careful they're gonna
hate us
          
                  
            52:49
          
          
            anyway Samantha Power's spoke
up like
          
                  
            52:53
          
          
            why does she need wait to be
heard he
          
                  
            52:56
          
          
            rose from did she come out of
her coffin
          
                  
            52:58
          
          
            and then speak she sounds like
she came
          
                  
            53:01
          
          
            out of the coffin she sounds
like a dude
          
                  
            53:03
          
          
            do you think that Republicans
and many
          
                  
            53:07
          
          
            of them would say a quid pro
quo does
          
                  
            53:09
          
          
            not actually reach the bar for
          
                  
            53:11
          
          
            impeachment of high crimes and
          
                  
            53:12
          
          
            misdemeanors I think what you
see from
          
                  
            53:14
          
          
            Republicans is a kind of
nervousness
          
                  
            53:18
          
          
            acute nervousness about the
facts of
          
                  
            53:21
          
          
            what Trump did tell me if you
don't
          
                  
            53:23
          
          
            close your eyes that doesn't
sound like
          
                  
            53:25
          
          
            a dude like kind of like
Stephanopoulos
          
                  
            53:27
          
          
            height you know well doesn't it
sound a
          
                  
            53:31
          
          
            little like Jane Fonda too and
therefore
          
                  
            53:34
          
          
            more and more discussion of
process it's
          
                  
            53:36
          
          
            not fair process it's clear
right that's
          
                  
            53:39
          
          
            go open to all it's a show
trial and so
          
                  
            53:42
          
          
            there really I think trying to
change
          
                  
            53:44
          
          
            the conversation I mean he went
and
          
                  
            53:46
          
          
            noticed she says they've been
trying to
          
                  
            53:49
          
          
            change the conversation you
know the old
          
                  
            53:51
          
          
            Dutch proverb but just ask me
to call
          
                  
            53:54
          
          
            total health which means she
may be
          
                  
            53:56
          
          
            accusing people of what she's
about to
          
                  
            53:58
          
          
            do herself and so they're
really I think
          
                  
            54:02
          
          
            trying to change the
conversation I mean
          
                  
            54:04
          
          
            he went and asked a foreign
government
          
                  
            54:06
          
          
            to not dig up dirt makeup dirt
in order
          
                  
            54:11
          
          
            to show this showed up about
three or
          
                  
            54:19
          
          
            four day or actually even
longer but it
          
                  
            54:21
          
          
            I know it started creeping in
where even
          
                  
            54:24
          
          
            though you've got the
transcript to read
          
                  
            54:26
          
          
            there's nothing in there where
Trump
          
                  
            54:28
          
          
            says I would like you to make
up dirt
          
                  
            54:30
          
          
            about Joe Biden if you can't
find it
          
                  
            54:33
          
          
            make it up but that's what the
left is
          
                  
            54:36
          
          
            saying all around here does you
hear
          
                  
            54:37
          
          
            this you're starting to hear
this it's a
          
                  
            54:39
          
          
            meme now yeah yeah Trump calls
the the
          
                  
            54:42
          
          
            comedy
          
                  
            54:43
          
          
            comedian president of Ukraine
and told
          
                  
            54:47
          
          
            him to make up dirt about Joe
Biden geez
          
                  
            54:50
          
          
            that's what everyone says yeah
it's like
          
                  
            54:53
          
          
            why yeah I'm not getting it now
people
          
                  
            54:56
          
          
            over here they they don't even
really
          
                  
            54:59
          
          
            want me to tell
          
                  
            55:00
          
          
            what's happening but here's how
it
          
                  
            55:02
          
          
            usually starts Trump's not
gonna get
          
                  
            55:05
          
          
            impeached is he that's pretty
much what
          
                  
            55:08
          
          
            everyone has said to me not do
you think
          
                  
            55:10
          
          
            he's gonna get impeached what's
going on
          
                  
            55:11
          
          
            just like she's not gonna get
impeached
          
                  
            55:13
          
          
            is he which is interesting and
no one's
          
                  
            55:17
          
          
            working where does that coming
from I
          
                  
            55:18
          
          
            don't know no one's mad I think
because
          
                  
            55:20
          
          
            they're all so they're being
hammered
          
                  
            55:22
          
          
            about climate change and you
know they
          
                  
            55:24
          
          
            have other problems
          
                  
            55:26
          
          
            it won't trust this day cuz
he's a claim
          
                  
            55:28
          
          
            but he's deny they don't have
that
          
                  
            55:32
          
          
            bullcrap over there at least
          
                  
            55:35
          
          
            well we have it on and off we
just don't
          
                  
            55:38
          
          
            have it to such an extreme
right because
          
                  
            55:40
          
          
            we don't have a great leader
like Greta
          
                  
            55:43
          
          
            doomberry doom-doom Berg doomed
Berg
          
                  
            55:47
          
          
            Berg Elizabeth Warren finally
defined
          
                  
            55:51
          
          
            the middle class I was just
asking about
          
                  
            55:53
          
          
            this on the last show
          
                  
            55:55
          
          
            I'm did you do you hear this
yeah you do
          
                  
            55:59
          
          
            if this is the same clip you
played in
          
                  
            56:02
          
          
            the last show I'll be surprised
no I
          
                  
            56:04
          
          
            didn't play this clip on the
last show
          
                  
            56:05
          
          
            no okay no this is a new clip
it's a
          
                  
            56:08
          
          
            shorty but she's asked to
define the
          
                  
            56:11
          
          
            middle class because he
promised cost
          
                  
            56:13
          
          
            will not go up for the middle
class now
          
                  
            56:15
          
          
            did we arrive at a number at
the brac I
          
                  
            56:18
          
          
            think this reporter even asked
for the
          
                  
            56:19
          
          
            bracket would do we come up
with a
          
                  
            56:22
          
          
            number as the title I thought
the number
          
                  
            56:24
          
          
            we came up with Obama's number
which was
          
                  
            56:26
          
          
            $250,000 a year is the top end
of the
          
                  
            56:29
          
          
            middle class okay well some
states it
          
                  
            56:31
          
          
            seemed an the bottom man would
be
          
                  
            56:33
          
          
            poverty right which what is
what what's
          
                  
            56:35
          
          
            poverty 25 30
          
                  
            56:37
          
          
            I think it's 25 20 currently
I'm not
          
                  
            56:40
          
          
            sure okay so it's in that
vicinity so
          
                  
            56:43
          
          
            everybody above 250 you could
be screwed
          
                  
            56:47
          
          
            no yes you could be screwed by
Warren by
          
                  
            56:50
          
          
            Warren stacks actually no you
don't have
          
                  
            56:52
          
          
            to be worried at all
          
                  
            56:58
          
          
            here it's 100% it doesn't raise
taxes on
          
                  
            57:02
          
          
            anybody but billionaires and
you know
          
                  
            57:04
          
          
            what the billionaires can
afford an item
          
                  
            57:06
          
          
            called a middle-class
billionaire that's
          
                  
            57:08
          
          
            where it worked
          
                  
            57:09
          
          
            anyone under
          
                  
            57:14
          
          
            anyone under a billion dollars
pays not
          
                  
            57:16
          
          
            a penny more you heard it there
that's
          
                  
            57:19
          
          
            your middle class is under a
billion
          
                  
            57:21
          
          
            well I this we yeah I think
this is
          
                  
            57:23
          
          
            similar to a clip you played
now well I
          
                  
            57:27
          
          
            don't know what that clip is
then but
          
                  
            57:30
          
          
            yes she made this comment this
guy went
          
                  
            57:32
          
          
            around a toe and is bullshit
she never
          
                  
            57:34
          
          
            specifically said the middle
class was
          
                  
            57:36
          
          
            anyone who makes under a
billion no she
          
                  
            57:39
          
          
            just said it now though she
didn't
          
                  
            57:41
          
          
            really say that he's asking her
who's
          
                  
            57:44
          
          
            gonna get taxed no he says what
is the
          
                  
            57:46
          
          
            middle class what's the bracket
          
                  
            57:49
          
          
            well she yes but she didn't
answer the
          
                  
            57:51
          
          
            question if a politician I'm
gonna have
          
                  
            57:54
          
          
            to say something here
          
                  
            57:56
          
          
            we know that politicians don't
answer
          
                  
            57:58
          
          
            the question so he can't really
answer
          
                  
            58:01
          
          
            she's answering some question
that
          
                  
            58:03
          
          
            wasn't asked
          
                  
            58:04
          
          
            she's asking who's gonna get
taxed and
          
                  
            58:06
          
          
            he asked who's the middle class
and she
          
                  
            58:08
          
          
            didn't answer the question I
don't see
          
                  
            58:09
          
          
            that you can accuse her of
saying this
          
                  
            58:11
          
          
            when she did to her normal
avoidance
          
                  
            58:14
          
          
            behavior of not answering the
question
          
                  
            58:16
          
          
            and then sticking her with an
answer I
          
                  
            58:18
          
          
            think is unfair I think you're
being
          
                  
            58:20
          
          
            unfair to to Betsy that was her
normal
          
                  
            58:25
          
          
            name Betsy Betsy new name Betsy
so I
          
                  
            58:32
          
          
            came I bet she was her name I
do I
          
                  
            58:35
          
          
            researched her because I was
saying I
          
                  
            58:38
          
          
            saw a picture of her here's
what I
          
                  
            58:40
          
          
            thought and don't Clifton's for
the
          
                  
            58:43
          
          
            cartoon I'm saying that cuz I'm
always
          
                  
            58:45
          
          
            stumbling I'm to get to my point
          
                  
            58:48
          
          
            where's elizabeth warren's Betsy
          
                  
            58:51
          
          
            Warren's where's her husband
what do you
          
                  
            58:54
          
          
            mean what's his name which is
OK without
          
                  
            58:56
          
          
            looking what's what's her
husband's name
          
                  
            58:58
          
          
            Paul am I wrong what is his name
          
                  
            59:07
          
          
            Bruce oh yeah I knew that I
knew it was
          
                  
            59:10
          
          
            a paul or a bud or something
like well
          
                  
            59:12
          
          
            she may have been shit to us
but she was
          
                  
            59:14
          
          
            married and then she got
divorced and
          
                  
            59:15
          
          
            she very Brutes
          
                  
            59:17
          
          
            and you never see Bruce you
never hear
          
                  
            59:19
          
          
            Bruce nobody's doing profiles
of Bruce
          
                  
            59:21
          
          
            he didn't want a beer that's
why she
          
                  
            59:24
          
          
            wants a beer he said no and
that was his
          
                  
            59:26
          
          
            career over with done you're
not a
          
                  
            59:28
          
          
            camera they were actually
they're
          
                  
            59:30
          
          
            actually a kind of a for their
age and
          
                  
            59:32
          
          
            all they're cute couple and
she's very
          
                  
            59:33
          
          
            pretty when she was in high
school on
          
                  
            59:35
          
          
            and off she has a glamour shot
I'd
          
                  
            59:37
          
          
            started looking up all over her
pictures
          
                  
            59:40
          
          
            glamour shot of one at one
point which I
          
                  
            59:44
          
          
            maybe I'll run in a newsletter
because
          
                  
            59:46
          
          
            in this glamour shot she's got
the
          
                  
            59:49
          
          
            epicanthal fold you know she's
good she
          
                  
            59:51
          
          
            looks like an American Indian
she's got
          
                  
            59:52
          
          
            black hair her hair is always
dark not
          
                  
            59:54
          
          
            the blondie as she is today and
so I
          
                  
            59:58
          
          
            looked at all our pictures in
grammar
          
                  
            59:59
          
          
            school and all the rest and we
read this
          
                  
            1:00:01
          
          
            very interesting profile of her
and some
          
                  
            1:00:03
          
          
            obscure publication and she was
I wanted
          
                  
            1:00:07
          
          
            this she got skipped she was a
smart
          
                  
            1:00:09
          
          
            girl she skipped a year in
school moved
          
                  
            1:00:12
          
          
            up and she was apparently a
master
          
                  
            1:00:18
          
          
            debater
          
                  
            1:00:21
          
          
            won the state championship for
debating
          
                  
            1:00:24
          
          
            mm-hmm and I'm thinking this
would be
          
                  
            1:00:27
          
          
            the guy I didn't like the idea
of her
          
                  
            1:00:29
          
          
            running but I although I do
know she's
          
                  
            1:00:31
          
          
            not gonna do anything and she
was always
          
                  
            1:00:34
          
          
            a Republican until she was 40
something
          
                  
            1:00:36
          
          
            yeah just not very strange yeah
I know I
          
                  
            1:00:38
          
          
            knew that and she I would love
to see
          
                  
            1:00:43
          
          
            her in a debate with Trump I
think this
          
                  
            1:00:46
          
          
            would be fun to watch well cuz
          
                  
            1:00:48
          
          
            apparently she was a kick-ass
debater an
          
                  
            1:00:53
          
          
            observation is that you were
creeping on
          
                  
            1:00:56
          
          
            Betsy there Betsy due diligence
oh yes
          
                  
            1:01:01
          
          
            okay due diligence no you know
what
          
                  
            1:01:04
          
          
            little defensive about her she
was very
          
                  
            1:01:06
          
          
            cute I mean everybody heard it
I'm not
          
                  
            1:01:09
          
          
            the only one who heard this
okay alright
          
                  
            1:01:12
          
          
            well I respect your your
analysis
          
                  
            1:01:16
          
          
            Bill Gates disagrees with you
you
          
                  
            1:01:20
          
          
            historically actually have been
in favor
          
                  
            1:01:22
          
          
            of a wealth tax I'm a high
estate tax of
          
                  
            1:01:26
          
          
            a high estate tax yeah so there
is now
          
                  
            1:01:28
          
          
            on the table Elizabeth Warren
has a true
          
                  
            1:01:32
          
          
            wealth tax
          
                  
            1:01:33
          
          
            [Music]
          
                  
            1:01:35
          
          
            well billionaires it would cost
you I
          
                  
            1:01:38
          
          
            believe close to six billion
dollars
          
                  
            1:01:40
          
          
            annually if you had to pay it
ended on
          
                  
            1:01:43
          
          
            top of what you already pay
what do you
          
                  
            1:01:46
          
          
            think of all of this so there
you know
          
                  
            1:01:49
          
          
            I've paid over ten billion in
taxes I
          
                  
            1:01:52
          
          
            paid more than anyone in taxes
but I you
          
                  
            1:01:58
          
          
            know I'm glad you know if I'd
had to pay
          
                  
            1:02:01
          
          
            twenty billion that's fine but
you know
          
                  
            1:02:05
          
          
            when you say I should pay a
hundred
          
                  
            1:02:06
          
          
            billion ok then I'm starting to
do a
          
                  
            1:02:08
          
          
            little math about
          
                  
            1:02:10
          
          
            what I have left over sorry I'm
just
          
                  
            1:02:13
          
          
            kidding you really want the
incentive
          
                  
            1:02:18
          
          
            system to be there and you can
go a long
          
                  
            1:02:19
          
          
            ways without threatening that
have you
          
                  
            1:02:22
          
          
            ever talked that was before
about and
          
                  
            1:02:23
          
          
            I'd not would you would you
want to you
          
                  
            1:02:26
          
          
            know I'm not sure how
open-minded she is
          
                  
            1:02:30
          
          
            doing stand-up here he's just
one after
          
                  
            1:02:34
          
          
            another he's always been funny
if he's
          
                  
            1:02:36
          
          
            got a crowd going yeah they
like for the
          
                  
            1:02:38
          
          
            odd thing is bother something I
mean
          
                  
            1:02:41
          
          
            I've never I mean he's always
had these
          
                  
            1:02:42
          
          
            affectations in his in his
voice but ah
          
                  
            1:02:45
          
          
            you know who does that
          
                  
            1:02:47
          
          
            no Ted Turner was a big ah-ha
          
                  
            1:02:51
          
          
            before he said anything and I
think it
          
                  
            1:02:53
          
          
            might be a milieu issue well
you got to
          
                  
            1:02:55
          
          
            be careful because Ted has
severe
          
                  
            1:02:58
          
          
            dementia now he's a shadow of
himself so
          
                  
            1:03:03
          
          
            I'm sure his odds have gotten
completely
          
                  
            1:03:05
          
          
            out of control a warning sign
          
                  
            1:03:09
          
          
            Wow you're on a roll today I am
sure how
          
                  
            1:03:12
          
          
            open-minded she is it's a nerd
fry it's
          
                  
            1:03:20
          
          
            a nerd vocal fry be willing to
sit down
          
                  
            1:03:22
          
          
            with somebody you know who has
large
          
                  
            1:03:25
          
          
            amounts of money okay so let me
make it
          
                  
            1:03:27
          
          
            complicated for you
          
                  
            1:03:28
          
          
            you've been polite we say
public about
          
                  
            1:03:32
          
          
            your misgivings about our
current
          
                  
            1:03:33
          
          
            president if Elizabeth Warren
were the
          
                  
            1:03:36
          
          
            other candidate what would you
do you
          
                  
            1:03:39
          
          
            know I I'm not gonna you know
make
          
                  
            1:03:42
          
          
            political declarations but I do
think no
          
                  
            1:03:45
          
          
            matter what policy somebody has
in mind
          
                  
            1:03:49
          
          
            a professional approach is even
as much
          
                  
            1:03:54
          
          
            as I disagree with some of the
policy
          
                  
            1:03:56
          
          
            things that are out there I do
think a
          
                  
            1:03:57
          
          
            professional approach to the
office
          
                  
            1:03:59
          
          
            whoever I decide would have the
more
          
                  
            1:04:01
          
          
            professional approach in the
current
          
                  
            1:04:03
          
          
            situation probably will way is
the thing
          
                  
            1:04:07
          
          
            that I'll weigh the most nah
yeah you
          
                  
            1:04:10
          
          
            know I hope the more
professional
          
                  
            1:04:12
          
          
            candidate is an electable
candidate okay
          
                  
            1:04:15
          
          
            yeah wonder if it's a tell cuz
he's
          
                  
            1:04:18
          
          
            basically they're just lying
his ass off
          
                  
            1:04:20
          
          
            because he'd never vote for
Trump he
          
                  
            1:04:22
          
          
            knows that if it was warned
half to vote
          
                  
            1:04:24
          
          
            for Warren because otherwise
he'd be
          
                  
            1:04:26
          
          
            excoriated from the pedo Club
yes but
          
                  
            1:04:31
          
          
            maybe it's a tell whenever he's
gonna do
          
                  
            1:04:32
          
          
            a really big lie ah why stand
it's
          
                  
            1:04:36
          
          
            different than just the normal
which
          
                  
            1:04:38
          
          
            people you know I I do it you
do a
          
                  
            1:04:40
          
          
            little bit mm yeah we everybody
does it
          
                  
            1:04:43
          
          
            they say uh but uh is not the
same as
          
                  
            1:04:49
          
          
            approach is even as much as I
disagree
          
                  
            1:04:54
          
          
            with some of the policy things
that are
          
                  
            1:04:55
          
          
            out there I do think a
professional
          
                  
            1:04:56
          
          
            approach in the office whoever
I decide
          
                  
            1:04:59
          
          
            would have the more professional
          
                  
            1:05:00
          
          
            approach in the current
situation
          
                  
            1:05:03
          
          
            probably will way is the thing
that I'll
          
                  
            1:05:06
          
          
            weigh the most sounds like his
body is
          
                  
            1:05:14
          
          
            all saying this is bullshit
approach in
          
                  
            1:05:19
          
          
            the current situation
          
                  
            1:05:21
          
          
            probably will way is the thing
that I'll
          
                  
            1:05:24
          
          
            weigh the most nah and you know
I hope
          
                  
            1:05:28
          
          
            we gotta pay attention to him
doing that
          
                  
            1:05:30
          
          
            now cuz I think it's a tell it
might be
          
                  
            1:05:34
          
          
            a tell ah he does a lot yeah
but that
          
                  
            1:05:37
          
          
            was a good beginning of it the
whole
          
                  
            1:05:39
          
          
            thing he really extreme the end
I like
          
                  
            1:05:42
          
          
            it were they're different
          
                  
            1:05:43
          
          
            it's it's a cool version of
Tourette's
          
                  
            1:05:45
          
          
            maybe it's a nerdy thing you
know bill
          
                  
            1:05:49
          
          
            supposedly has Parkinson's
          
                  
            1:05:54
          
          
            and this is the mole is not
discussed a
          
                  
            1:05:56
          
          
            lot but I've seen absolutely
zero
          
                  
            1:05:59
          
          
            evidence in the evidence of
that either
          
                  
            1:06:00
          
          
            he's not yes and this was I
think I
          
                  
            1:06:04
          
          
            first heard about this four or
five
          
                  
            1:06:05
          
          
            years ago hmm yeah there's no
evidence
          
                  
            1:06:08
          
          
            of it so see what's not she
still looks
          
                  
            1:06:19
          
          
            like she might swoop in
          
                  
            1:06:20
          
          
            did you see Hillary and Chelsea
crash
          
                  
            1:06:23
          
          
            the monologue on the James
Corden show
          
                  
            1:06:27
          
          
            yes I watched it I watched them
do their
          
                  
            1:06:30
          
          
            thing that's where I got to
quote from
          
                  
            1:06:34
          
          
            her saying that she did we've
got to get
          
                  
            1:06:37
          
          
            rid of the electoral college
          
                  
            1:06:39
          
          
            Oh was this in the in the
opening I
          
                  
            1:06:42
          
          
            thought that did they do a
sit-down
          
                  
            1:06:43
          
          
            interview because I didn't oh I
only got
          
                  
            1:06:46
          
          
            when they did stand-up did you
see this
          
                  
            1:06:48
          
          
            cringe no I miss them so James
Corden's
          
                  
            1:06:54
          
          
            doing his monologue and then the
          
                  
            1:06:56
          
          
            curtains open behind this was
17 seconds
          
                  
            1:07:09
          
          
            of standing ovations so I cut
it down
          
                  
            1:07:14
          
          
            but people were going nuts that
just oh
          
                  
            1:07:17
          
          
            my god there they are
          
                  
            1:07:21
          
          
            she's real she looks great
          
                  
            1:07:25
          
          
            [Applause]
          
                  
            1:07:35
          
          
            Wow we heard your jokes
backstage and
          
                  
            1:07:39
          
          
            felt it was our civic duty to
in this
          
                  
            1:07:43
          
          
            humanitarian now of course what
happened
          
                  
            1:07:46
          
          
            here is you know they they
agreed to
          
                  
            1:07:49
          
          
            come on the show we're gonna do
          
                  
            1:07:50
          
          
            something different and then
the writer
          
                  
            1:07:51
          
          
            sat down and they wrote some
jokes and
          
                  
            1:07:53
          
          
            now you're gonna see two women
          
                  
            1:07:55
          
          
            delivering jokes and hey well
I'd love
          
                  
            1:07:58
          
          
            to hear your analysis because
you feel
          
                  
            1:08:01
          
          
            the punch line coming from a
thousand
          
                  
            1:08:02
          
          
            miles and still it generates a
little
          
                  
            1:08:05
          
          
            chuckle now this there's
something about
          
                  
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            a lot of structured jokes you
got to
          
                  
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            give it to amateurs yes I am
really fed
          
                  
            1:08:14
          
          
            up with all of your Trump jokes
if
          
                  
            1:08:21
          
          
            anyone should be telling Trump
jokes
          
                  
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            it's me it's like that's just
pandering
          
                  
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            to the crowd
          
                  
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            [Applause]
          
                  
            1:08:34
          
          
            Donald Trump trying to get
votes for
          
                  
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            Sean Spicer on Dancing with the
Stars
          
                  
            1:08:43
          
          
            now Chelsea goes you know I
can't blame
          
                  
            1:08:51
          
          
            Trump for trying to help Sean
Spicer but
          
                  
            1:08:57
          
          
            if there's one thing we've
learned is
          
                  
            1:08:58
          
          
            that these guys really can't
win the
          
                  
            1:09:01
          
          
            popular vote sure why not
spokesman Sean
          
                  
            1:09:15
          
          
            Spicer is now on Dancing with
the Stars
          
                  
            1:09:17
          
          
            it is an improvement on his old
job
          
                  
            1:09:20
          
          
            dancing around the issues now
you get
          
                  
            1:09:26
          
          
            the idea and then she doesn't
emails
          
                  
            1:09:29
          
          
            joke and
          
                  
            1:09:34
          
          
            you know she could have she'd
hit up the
          
                  
            1:09:36
          
          
            word dancing
          
                  
            1:09:38
          
          
            I've around the issues and then
plowed
          
                  
            1:09:41
          
          
            through the second president he
could
          
                  
            1:09:42
          
          
            have actually been hurt her we
delivered
          
                  
            1:09:44
          
          
            prominently but now so that
just shows
          
                  
            1:09:47
          
          
            deliveries little flat for both
of them
          
                  
            1:09:49
          
          
            so that appearance shows that
she's
          
                  
            1:09:52
          
          
            still in the game and obviously
we're
          
                  
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            now November 7th at this is six
days
          
                  
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            past our self-imposed deadline
of
          
                  
            1:09:58
          
          
            reentry my self-imposed
deadline you
          
                  
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            never but this is the kind of
guy I am
          
                  
            1:10:04
          
          
            I'll take the bad with you
bullet yes I
          
                  
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            would in a heartbeat
          
                  
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            absolutely I just wanna make it
clear
          
                  
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            that I'm the one who said well
first
          
                  
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            thing well I think we for being
wrong no
          
                  
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            I think you still have a shot
and you
          
                  
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            have a shot no I'm not I'm not
I have
          
                  
            1:10:25
          
          
            not thrown in the towel no you
shouldn't
          
                  
            1:10:28
          
          
            because I have another clip
here this is
          
                  
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            everybody's favorite money
honey Maria
          
                  
            1:10:34
          
          
            Bartiromo and she had a sit-down
          
                  
            1:10:35
          
          
            interview with Steve Banyan
known of the
          
                  
            1:10:39
          
          
            Banyan brothers and he had the
following
          
                  
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            you don't think this is gonna
be the
          
                  
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            lineup come 20/20 on the
Democratic side
          
                  
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            I think if you look at the
liberty and
          
                  
            1:10:49
          
          
            justice dinner in Iowa the
other night
          
                  
            1:10:51
          
          
            Joe Biden was totally unfair
          
                  
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            right and I don't think mayor
peak at
          
                  
            1:10:54
          
          
            that Obama moment he was
looking for I
          
                  
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            just don't believe that the
centrist
          
                  
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            that you know particularly the
wall
          
                  
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            street crowd in the Democratic
Party are
          
                  
            1:11:02
          
          
            going to sit there and think
that they
          
                  
            1:11:03
          
          
            have a coronation for Elizabeth
Warren's
          
                  
            1:11:06
          
          
            Elizabeth Warren's policies are
so
          
                  
            1:11:08
          
          
            radical the math doesn't even
come close
          
                  
            1:11:13
          
          
            this modern monetary theory you
have to
          
                  
            1:11:15
          
          
            totally change the way we've
ever
          
                  
            1:11:17
          
          
            thought about finance the way
he thought
          
                  
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            about money to even have some
concept of
          
                  
            1:11:21
          
          
            the radicalization of what her
policies
          
                  
            1:11:23
          
          
            are yes so I think that
Bloomberg and
          
                  
            1:11:26
          
          
            Clinton are still there as
Biden's in
          
                  
            1:11:28
          
          
            fourth in Iowa he's in second
in New
          
                  
            1:11:30
          
          
            Hampshire I think dropping a
third he's
          
                  
            1:11:32
          
          
            losing steam everywhere
Bloomberg or
          
                  
            1:11:35
          
          
            Hillary Clinton will enter this
race I
          
                  
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            think that they're the
          
                  
            1:11:38
          
          
            two best representatives of
what it goes
          
                  
            1:11:40
          
          
            for today the centrist of the
Democratic
          
                  
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            Party
          
                  
            1:11:42
          
          
            I believe the centrist no
matter how lay
          
                  
            1:11:45
          
          
            some time before Iowa or even
come in I
          
                  
            1:11:47
          
          
            don't believe they won't seem
like
          
                  
            1:11:48
          
          
            they're disruptors right so
they don't
          
                  
            1:11:50
          
          
            want to elbow Biden aside but
as the
          
                  
            1:11:52
          
          
            natural gravity falls out of
the in the
          
                  
            1:11:53
          
          
            first two races South Carolina
yeah is
          
                  
            1:11:55
          
          
            what's propping him up right
now and
          
                  
            1:11:56
          
          
            mayor Pete if mayor Pete does
not get
          
                  
            1:11:58
          
          
            the traction and he did not
have an
          
                  
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            Obama moment yeah the other day
I think
          
                  
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            that the centrist are gonna
have a vote
          
                  
            1:12:05
          
          
            and they're either gonna look
and say
          
                  
            1:12:06
          
          
            Bloomberg or Clinton what are
the best
          
                  
            1:12:09
          
          
            are the best shot no no the
only person
          
                  
            1:12:13
          
          
            could be done with Trump is
Donald Trump
          
                  
            1:12:15
          
          
            Trump right now there's not a
candidate
          
                  
            1:12:16
          
          
            out there that can defeat Donald
          
                  
            1:12:19
          
          
            there you go straight from the
horse's
          
                  
            1:12:21
          
          
            mouth this guy is on the road
cuz he was
          
                  
            1:12:25
          
          
            on a couple of the right-wing
talkers
          
                  
            1:12:27
          
          
            and he's been floating around
mm-hmm he
          
                  
            1:12:29
          
          
            hasn't gotten into the high
profile
          
                  
            1:12:31
          
          
            shows yet I don't know yes
that's his
          
                  
            1:12:34
          
          
            thing if he really even wants
to go
          
                  
            1:12:36
          
          
            after that he seems to be very
          
                  
            1:12:38
          
          
            comfortable with kind of the
business
          
                  
            1:12:40
          
          
            press he doesn't know Bloomberg
you know
          
                  
            1:12:43
          
          
            some podcasts you know I don't
know the
          
                  
            1:12:47
          
          
            guy's smart so I'm sure he's
doing but
          
                  
            1:12:49
          
          
            do you think he really wants to
be like
          
                  
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            in a in kind of a mainstream
soundbite
          
                  
            1:12:55
          
          
            type program and this is
something we
          
                  
            1:12:56
          
          
            got to talk for half an hour
and that's
          
                  
            1:12:58
          
          
            what he's looking for maybe he
just
          
                  
            1:13:01
          
          
            wants to talk longer and he
can't do
          
                  
            1:13:02
          
          
            that on him she doesn't care
thing up
          
                  
            1:13:04
          
          
            honey here's how he's thinking
I don't
          
                  
            1:13:06
          
          
            care as long as the no agenda
boys got
          
                  
            1:13:08
          
          
            some clips to play that's all
that's on
          
                  
            1:13:09
          
          
            his mind I understand that I'd
like to
          
                  
            1:13:13
          
          
            thank you for your courage and
say in
          
                  
            1:13:15
          
          
            the morning to you the man who
put the
          
                  
            1:13:20
          
          
            Dvorak well in the morning you
mr. Adam
          
                  
            1:13:23
          
          
            Curry in the morning the boots
on the
          
                  
            1:13:25
          
          
            ground feet in the air and all
the Dames
          
                  
            1:13:29
          
          
            are nice out there in the
morning - are
          
                  
            1:13:31
          
          
            trolls in the troll room which
can be
          
                  
            1:13:33
          
          
            found at no agender stream
dot-com just
          
                  
            1:13:36
          
          
            hop on over there you can
listen to any
          
                  
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            show live as it's being
produced live we
          
                  
            1:13:41
          
          
            have a lot of them that go
alive it's
          
                  
            1:13:43
          
          
            great we got great just great
show is
          
                  
            1:13:44
          
          
            live I'm doing Trump thing
great shows
          
                  
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            perfect people everything's
beautiful
          
                  
            1:13:47
          
          
            over there no agenda stream
calm oh yes
          
                  
            1:13:50
          
          
            and if you're a troll you'll be
welcomed
          
                  
            1:13:52
          
          
            with cookies no agendas juries
roll
          
                  
            1:13:55
          
          
            no agenda stream calm now then
I'd like
          
                  
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            to offer a big hearty in the
morning to
          
                  
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            Larry
          
                  
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            Dane who is a I think he's
never let me
          
                  
            1:14:04
          
          
            check if we discussed this I do
not
          
                  
            1:14:06
          
          
            believe he is no it was his
know is his
          
                  
            1:14:08
          
          
            second submission and he scored
the
          
                  
            1:14:11
          
          
            album art award a four-episode
1187 the
          
                  
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            title that was pre deceased
          
                  
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            and he had the Oxford
Dictionary of
          
                  
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            current English as the tea was
dropping
          
                  
            1:14:25
          
          
            off English privileged the No
Agenda
          
                  
            1:14:28
          
          
            original and it felt good to us
but it
          
                  
            1:14:32
          
          
            believes there was something we
wanted
          
                  
            1:14:34
          
          
            to critique
          
                  
            1:14:35
          
          
            yes well the one that I thought
was the
          
                  
            1:14:38
          
          
            best piece
          
                  
            1:14:40
          
          
            was Mike Riley you said it was
up to
          
                  
            1:14:44
          
          
            obscure you when you're gonna
put up
          
                  
            1:14:45
          
          
            with it it but this is with
Jimmy
          
                  
            1:14:47
          
          
            Garoppolo standing there and
two weather
          
                  
            1:14:50
          
          
            balloons that I'd commented
that he
          
                  
            1:14:51
          
          
            likes to date women that looked
like
          
                  
            1:14:53
          
          
            they were too weather balloons
in a
          
                  
            1:14:54
          
          
            halter top right you thought was
          
                  
            1:14:56
          
          
            slightly amusing but what got
me about
          
                  
            1:14:59
          
          
            this he's got Jimmy Garoppolo
and then
          
                  
            1:15:01
          
          
            there's two weather balloons
floating in
          
                  
            1:15:03
          
          
            the air with stripper tassels
hanging
          
                  
            1:15:06
          
          
            from them that was the part
that was too
          
                  
            1:15:09
          
          
            obscure first of all I didn't
recognize
          
                  
            1:15:11
          
          
            Jimmy Garofalo door nor did it
even
          
                  
            1:15:13
          
          
            trigger anything in my memory
because
          
                  
            1:15:16
          
          
            you know that just died the
tassels were
          
                  
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            a hilarious
          
                  
            1:15:20
          
          
            touch very funny but it really
doesn't
          
                  
            1:15:23
          
          
            just didn't translate from me
not saying
          
                  
            1:15:26
          
          
            it's bad no obviously we didn't
pick it
          
                  
            1:15:28
          
          
            no I'm just saying this is the
piece I
          
                  
            1:15:30
          
          
            like Galaga and mainly because
of the
          
                  
            1:15:33
          
          
            subtle touch of the tousled I
have to be
          
                  
            1:15:35
          
          
            I'm old enough that I've been to
          
                  
            1:15:37
          
          
            burlesque burlesque shows the
classic
          
                  
            1:15:39
          
          
            yes I've been to a burlesque
show or two
          
                  
            1:15:41
          
          
            and they used to have these
women who
          
                  
            1:15:45
          
          
            would come out with these
topless and
          
                  
            1:15:47
          
          
            not bottomless usually but
topless with
          
                  
            1:15:51
          
          
            these tassels hanging off their
nipples
          
                  
            1:15:53
          
          
            and they could twirl and they
would get
          
                  
            1:15:56
          
          
            and they would get them
spinning mm-hmm
          
                  
            1:15:59
          
          
            through a jumping jack like
exercise
          
                  
            1:16:02
          
          
            they get them going and they're
really
          
                  
            1:16:04
          
          
            talented women if you want to
call this
          
                  
            1:16:06
          
          
            a talent now when they were
jumping and
          
                  
            1:16:11
          
          
            whatever movements there were
their
          
                  
            1:16:12
          
          
            talent were they both spinning
in the
          
                  
            1:16:15
          
          
            same direction or could they do
          
                  
            1:16:16
          
          
            generally stop it and make them
go one
          
                  
            1:16:20
          
          
            going one direction one going
the other
          
                  
            1:16:22
          
          
            direction Wow and that was and
they were
          
                  
            1:16:25
          
          
            did they do it and like on cue
and it
          
                  
            1:16:27
          
          
            was like wow you'd say to
yourself
          
                  
            1:16:29
          
          
            talent which you're like a
teenager in
          
                  
            1:16:31
          
          
            here I can imagine you just
last Friday
          
                  
            1:16:46
          
          
            that's what I called talent I
did like
          
                  
            1:16:49
          
          
            Joe Biden with this little mr.
          
                  
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            microphone I think we both
found that to
          
                  
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            be
          
                  
            1:16:54
          
          
            man that was an obscure
reference mr.
          
                  
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            Mitas was probably unknown to
most
          
                  
            1:16:58
          
          
            people yeah and live from the
          
                  
            1:17:02
          
          
            Netherlands now travel tip so
we looked
          
                  
            1:17:04
          
          
            at travel tips was just it was
          
                  
            1:17:05
          
          
            functional was a Darren O'Neill
piece
          
                  
            1:17:08
          
          
            him but ultimately everyone
does a
          
                  
            1:17:11
          
          
            beautiful job and we had to
pick one and
          
                  
            1:17:14
          
          
            it's just now it's whatever it
whatever
          
                  
            1:17:17
          
          
            works for us at that moment but
we
          
                  
            1:17:19
          
          
            really appreciate all the work
that
          
                  
            1:17:20
          
          
            everybody puts in sight I also
picked
          
                  
            1:17:23
          
          
            come comic bloggers in Leu live
life in
          
                  
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            the Netherlands one for the
newsletter
          
                  
            1:17:30
          
          
            because I thought it fit in
with the
          
                  
            1:17:31
          
          
            news yes and of course and
that's what
          
                  
            1:17:33
          
          
            we use the images for it's not
just for
          
                  
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            the album art I always use one
for the
          
                  
            1:17:37
          
          
            live stream for announcing
actually used
          
                  
            1:17:40
          
          
            a comic store blogger today
which had
          
                  
            1:17:42
          
          
            1188 it's the only time allowed
to use
          
                  
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            numbers is for the pre stream
and he had
          
                  
            1:17:47
          
          
            them in the Dutch flag colors
red white
          
                  
            1:17:48
          
          
            and blue but actually somehow
the whole
          
                  
            1:17:51
          
          
            thing feels really Dutch so I
like that
          
                  
            1:17:54
          
          
            and some of these also go on
t-shirts
          
                  
            1:17:56
          
          
            and mugs at No Agenda shop calm
and the
          
                  
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            artists get a piece of the of
the
          
                  
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            profits there as does the show
so we're
          
                  
            1:18:03
          
          
            very appreciative thank you so
much to
          
                  
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            our artists who participate and
if you
          
                  
            1:18:07
          
          
            want to throw your hat in the
ring just
          
                  
            1:18:10
          
          
            go to nil agenda our generator
calm and
          
                  
            1:18:12
          
          
            a creating account if it works
sometimes
          
                  
            1:18:14
          
          
            I might have to try twice and
upload
          
                  
            1:18:18
          
          
            your your work yeah I want to
comment on
          
                  
            1:18:21
          
          
            one more piece of art sure this
was from
          
                  
            1:18:23
          
          
            I think the previous show yeah
we didn't
          
                  
            1:18:25
          
          
            do a commentary I thought the
waffle
          
                  
            1:18:28
          
          
            waffle waffle by Darren O'Neill
of
          
                  
            1:18:30
          
          
            showing the Washington Post in
a and
          
                  
            1:18:33
          
          
            beloved leader dead at 56
Hitler yes
          
                  
            1:18:37
          
          
            yeah but was really a
noteworthy piece
          
                  
            1:18:40
          
          
            but but no jokes like already
been made
          
                  
            1:18:43
          
          
            did one of jokes been made
that's what
          
                  
            1:18:45
          
          
            your complaint was yeah the
jokes been
          
                  
            1:18:47
          
          
            made but I'm not gonna put a
Hitler
          
                  
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            right on the oil on our album
art just
          
                  
            1:18:55
          
          
            don't think it's too advanced
guys use
          
                  
            1:18:57
          
          
            Hitler yeah we won't we won't
do without
          
                  
            1:18:59
          
          
            some thought that's for sure
yeah well I
          
                  
            1:19:02
          
          
            suppose it could be some misses
but
          
                  
            1:19:04
          
          
            we've never used Hitler before I
          
                  
            1:19:08
          
          
            that was gonna happen but
you've got
          
                  
            1:19:10
          
          
            your artists out there you
think it's up
          
                  
            1:19:12
          
          
            to the challenge you might want
to try
          
                  
            1:19:13
          
          
            something but much it Hitler
art no no
          
                  
            1:19:19
          
          
            Hitler art does you know people
take us
          
                  
            1:19:20
          
          
            seriously when you say that
don't say
          
                  
            1:19:22
          
          
            that
          
                  
            1:19:22
          
          
            let's do this Hitler we have
          
                  
            1:19:26
          
          
            executive producers and
associate
          
                  
            1:19:28
          
          
            executive producers to thank
today and
          
                  
            1:19:30
          
          
            then it is a good of a very
short second
          
                  
            1:19:32
          
          
            segment yeah we didn't get a
lot of
          
                  
            1:19:35
          
          
            responses and you know I flies
I fly
          
                  
            1:19:37
          
          
            6,000 miles you know I set up I
I sleep
          
                  
            1:19:42
          
          
            for three hours I prep I set up
I do a
          
                  
            1:19:46
          
          
            show and this is the thank yous
its
          
                  
            1:19:48
          
          
            effects we can't it's okay
          
                  
            1:19:51
          
          
            that it's it's the way the
value for
          
                  
            1:19:53
          
          
            value system works is whatever
it was
          
                  
            1:19:55
          
          
            worth to you and it's always a
strong
          
                  
            1:19:57
          
          
            message to us and it's
appreciated and
          
                  
            1:19:59
          
          
            of course we have many messages
of
          
                  
            1:20:01
          
          
            encouragement today well DJ
Fuji starts
          
                  
            1:20:05
          
          
            us off at 500 bucks and he says
well
          
                  
            1:20:09
          
          
            gentlemen has spent about a
year since
          
                  
            1:20:11
          
          
            my first donation of my
requested jobs
          
                  
            1:20:13
          
          
            karma has been outstanding on
ice nation
          
                  
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            brings me to knighthood and I
humbly
          
                  
            1:20:17
          
          
            request the karaoke and
cocktails at the
          
                  
            1:20:19
          
          
            round table the can you find it
Andrews
          
                  
            1:20:21
          
          
            Florida tiki hut
          
                  
            1:20:23
          
          
            Andrew Horowitz but your
permission I'd
          
                  
            1:20:26
          
          
            like to be knighted a serve DJ
Fuji of
          
                  
            1:20:30
          
          
            Jersey City I like to give very
special
          
                  
            1:20:33
          
          
            thanks to dhm plugged riddles
are fun
          
                  
            1:20:36
          
          
            but not so much as fed
limericks I you
          
                  
            1:20:40
          
          
            guys doing your head the Fed
limericks
          
                  
            1:20:42
          
          
            now now that's old we didn't
done that
          
                  
            1:20:45
          
          
            we're doing brain teasers Oh
sir super
          
                  
            1:20:48
          
          
            Steve and Hoboken Matt jingle
requests
          
                  
            1:20:51
          
          
            pansexual men get out of my
vagina can
          
                  
            1:20:54
          
          
            you see the juice look at the
juice
          
                  
            1:20:57
          
          
            beautiful YUM no way but the
first one
          
                  
            1:21:00
          
          
            is pansexual meatloaf meatloaf
I'm sorry
          
                  
            1:21:03
          
          
            what is that I don't know
          
                  
            1:21:07
          
          
            pansexual me cuz I looked I
looked for
          
                  
            1:21:10
          
          
            pansexual I look for meatloaf
          
                  
            1:21:14
          
          
            I can't find any of this
meatloaf I
          
                  
            1:21:18
          
          
            don't remember it
          
                  
            1:21:19
          
          
            that's not doesn't ring a bell
I got the
          
                  
            1:21:21
          
          
            other ones but um well he's
gonna have
          
                  
            1:21:24
          
          
            to wait then on the rest of
them yeah we
          
                  
            1:21:26
          
          
            got to let it anyway they
finishes him
          
                  
            1:21:28
          
          
            up he says here's hoping to
several more
          
                  
            1:21:31
          
          
            years of the best podcast in the
          
                  
            1:21:32
          
          
            university for your exit
strategy
          
                  
            1:21:33
          
          
            finally works all jingles found
at phone
          
                  
            1:21:36
          
          
            boy comm slashed no agenda and
then he
          
                  
            1:21:40
          
          
            has this account ringtones and
then he's
          
                  
            1:21:44
          
          
            got some accounting so we have
to go to
          
                  
            1:21:47
          
          
            phone boy probably have the
pansexual oh
          
                  
            1:21:53
          
          
            yeah but I don't know what it
is it
          
                  
            1:21:55
          
          
            means I'm sure we have it but
it just
          
                  
            1:21:58
          
          
            how can that be what it's
titled doesn't
          
                  
            1:22:00
          
          
            make any sense it seems
unlikely all
          
                  
            1:22:03
          
          
            right that's the end of his
note I can
          
                  
            1:22:05
          
          
            do the right the other ones
form I have
          
                  
            1:22:07
          
          
            that sequence and I'll throw
some karma
          
                  
            1:22:08
          
          
            there for him and if he
requested that
          
                  
            1:22:10
          
          
            but he's gonna get it you see
that juice
          
                  
            1:22:27
          
          
            the juice the juice that comes
out my
          
                  
            1:22:30
          
          
            hand is dripping wet here
because I have
          
                  
            1:22:32
          
          
            nothing but juice
          
                  
            1:22:39
          
          
            your side karma part of it that
guy
          
                  
            1:22:48
          
          
            going on about his being
comfort people
          
                  
            1:22:51
          
          
            remember the strangest things
sir I you
          
                  
            1:22:57
          
          
            know I've been I still tuned
into that's
          
                  
            1:22:59
          
          
            a I believe it's it's not HBO
it's one
          
                  
            1:23:03
          
          
            of those shopping channels
trying to
          
                  
            1:23:04
          
          
            catch that guy in that woman
because I
          
                  
            1:23:06
          
          
            know that they would do this
again and
          
                  
            1:23:08
          
          
            similar cuz that guy's always
dramatic
          
                  
            1:23:10
          
          
            yes it's a big giant guy and
he's really
          
                  
            1:23:12
          
          
            dramatic yeah but I have not
been able
          
                  
            1:23:15
          
          
            to catch another clip like that
for a
          
                  
            1:23:17
          
          
            couple of years now talking
about well
          
                  
            1:23:20
          
          
            yeah a fascinating story
yesterday a
          
                  
            1:23:22
          
          
            girl of America's heartland of
Saudi
          
                  
            1:23:24
          
          
            Arabia's 333 bucks yes for
risotto we
          
                  
            1:23:28
          
          
            please preload the following
jingles
          
                  
            1:23:30
          
          
            dogs for people to that's true
gentlemen
          
                  
            1:23:32
          
          
            good day donating today in
honor of our
          
                  
            1:23:35
          
          
            beloved mutt Charles
Bartholomew FUBU
          
                  
            1:23:39
          
          
            Zotoh the third junior junior
who passed
          
                  
            1:23:42
          
          
            away a couple of days ago he's
been sick
          
                  
            1:23:44
          
          
            for a while so we knew he'd
probably
          
                  
            1:23:46
          
          
            won't
          
                  
            1:23:47
          
          
            he wasn't long for this world
but
          
                  
            1:23:49
          
          
            passing was still something of
a shock
          
                  
            1:23:51
          
          
            Damon's melody and Isabella and
I are
          
                  
            1:23:54
          
          
            hanging in there but we would
appreciate
          
                  
            1:23:56
          
          
            some service goat Karma for our
family
          
                  
            1:23:58
          
          
            and all those who have
experienced this
          
                  
            1:24:00
          
          
            loss it was a wonderful 10
years with a
          
                  
            1:24:03
          
          
            very good boy we're going to
miss that
          
                  
            1:24:06
          
          
            mongrel thanks very courage sir
Dave
          
                  
            1:24:11
          
          
            Earl of America's heartland in
Saudi
          
                  
            1:24:12
          
          
            Arabia we and we make a lot of
jokes
          
                  
            1:24:14
          
          
            about dogs but if there's one
reason I
          
                  
            1:24:16
          
          
            really really don't want pets
anymore is
          
                  
            1:24:19
          
          
            that I hate it when they die
this is
          
                  
            1:24:22
          
          
            like and that you remember that
so much
          
                  
            1:24:24
          
          
            more than when you got them the
first
          
                  
            1:24:26
          
          
            day
          
                  
            1:24:34
          
          
            you've got karma sir sander in
Zaandam
          
                  
            1:24:44
          
          
            on Hill 296 20 is in Holland hi
guys I
          
                  
            1:24:52
          
          
            always remember the remember
that
          
                  
            1:24:54
          
          
            remember that fifth of November
is my
          
                  
            1:24:57
          
          
            twin daughter's birthday
          
                  
            1:24:58
          
          
            I heard birthdays if it's twin
          
                  
            1:25:01
          
          
            daughter's birthday is it twin
daughters
          
                  
            1:25:02
          
          
            birthday or twin daughters
birthdays
          
                  
            1:25:05
          
          
            it's them or it's them's
birthday
          
                  
            1:25:08
          
          
            them's birthday today we
celebrate them
          
                  
            1:25:12
          
          
            becoming teenagers whoo-hoo
          
                  
            1:25:15
          
          
            trot this is a hashtag total
fucking die
          
                  
            1:25:19
          
          
            hashbrown trots trot evader
Trotter Josh
          
                  
            1:25:23
          
          
            the Raider throat's a father
          
                  
            1:25:28
          
          
            which means matzo father I
wasn't
          
                  
            1:25:31
          
          
            thinking it was induction with
this
          
                  
            1:25:33
          
          
            donation I gained my Earl
status please
          
                  
            1:25:41
          
          
            change my current status from
Baron of
          
                  
            1:25:43
          
          
            the Alps to Earl of the Swiss
Alps
          
                  
            1:25:45
          
          
            because Alps an area that
covers eight
          
                  
            1:25:50
          
          
            different countries is too
difficult to
          
                  
            1:25:52
          
          
            put on the no agenda peerage
map I think
          
                  
            1:25:55
          
          
            oh I do not get it ready I did
not get
          
                  
            1:25:58
          
          
            it registered with no agenda
maps
          
                  
            1:26:00
          
          
            anyways going on and then he's
got
          
                  
            1:26:03
          
          
            something about the Alps or
Wikipedia
          
                  
            1:26:05
          
          
            link thanks to both to both you
curry to
          
                  
            1:26:08
          
          
            both your curry throats the
father means
          
                  
            1:26:18
          
          
            proud dad and that's the
translation of
          
                  
            1:26:21
          
          
            that hashtag okay but otherwise
yeah I
          
                  
            1:26:24
          
          
            think he kind of got got hi
there
          
                  
            1:26:26
          
          
            halfway through Dutch things we
do that
          
                  
            1:26:30
          
          
            you know let me bang out an
email hold
          
                  
            1:26:31
          
          
            on oh yeah Alps thank you sir
cylinder
          
                  
            1:26:39
          
          
            will change your title
momentarily and
          
                  
            1:26:42
          
          
            of course dr. Fuji will see you
on the
          
                  
            1:26:44
          
          
            later as well
          
                  
            1:26:46
          
          
            sir Donnell broski our buddy
from
          
                  
            1:26:52
          
          
            supposed to tell he's actually
his
          
                  
            1:26:55
          
          
            tightest actual title is Sir
Donald of
          
                  
            1:26:57
          
          
            the fire bottles count of
Worcester
          
                  
            1:27:00
          
          
            Eastern Washington state he
sent a note
          
                  
            1:27:02
          
          
            in on United Federation of
Planets
          
                  
            1:27:04
          
          
            letterhead but she didn't have
to
          
                  
            1:27:06
          
          
            because he's already donated
enough
          
                  
            1:27:08
          
          
            money to get all notes read
once again
          
                  
            1:27:11
          
          
            time has gotten away from me so
here is
          
                  
            1:27:12
          
          
            my donation for October and
November
          
                  
            1:27:14
          
          
            which is two times one two
three four
          
                  
            1:27:17
          
          
            five or two hundred forty six
dollars
          
                  
            1:27:19
          
          
            and ninety cents I include an
article
          
                  
            1:27:21
          
          
            from Car and Driver about
people pushing
          
                  
            1:27:24
          
          
            back against self-driving cars
Cheers
          
                  
            1:27:27
          
          
            Sir David okay all right did he
want any
          
                  
            1:27:30
          
          
            jingling he has no Chinglish or
anything
          
                  
            1:27:34
          
          
            listed so we're something but
get my
          
                  
            1:27:36
          
          
            karma exactly you've got karma
and so
          
                  
            1:27:46
          
          
            here we go here is our buddy
          
                  
            1:27:47
          
          
            sir compost arranger and Grand
Canyon
          
                  
            1:27:50
          
          
            Arizona $200 oh yeah we
referred to him
          
                  
            1:27:54
          
          
            recently
          
                  
            1:27:54
          
          
            uh-huh
          
                  
            1:27:56
          
          
            first off it's been several
months since
          
                  
            1:27:58
          
          
            I've donated so I humbly
requested e
          
                  
            1:28:00
          
          
            douching deduced I've been a
bit busy
          
                  
            1:28:07
          
          
            lately and I've been catching
up on the
          
                  
            1:28:09
          
          
            fast pew it fast pew episodes I
saved
          
                  
            1:28:12
          
          
            the last two in my phone and
look
          
                  
            1:28:14
          
          
            forward to listening to them
while I
          
                  
            1:28:15
          
          
            around the Grand Canyon for
work hikers
          
                  
            1:28:18
          
          
            invariably still presume I'm
listening
          
                  
            1:28:21
          
          
            to a douchey TED talk as they
burst out
          
                  
            1:28:24
          
          
            laughing yeah there you go
          
                  
            1:28:27
          
          
            in fact we should just have all
our
          
                  
            1:28:29
          
          
            album art to say TED talk talk
light
          
                  
            1:28:42
          
          
            TEDx I am confident that I have
people
          
                  
            1:28:45
          
          
            say why don't you do a TED talk
and what
          
                  
            1:28:47
          
          
            you do they pay no no is your
answer but
          
                  
            1:28:54
          
          
            it's a TEDx it's for the
community yeah
          
                  
            1:28:57
          
          
            for somebody's making money how
am i
          
                  
            1:28:59
          
          
            doing something for a
non-profit or
          
                  
            1:29:01
          
          
            somebody's not making it
somebody
          
                  
            1:29:03
          
          
            starving it is like this show
right
          
                  
            1:29:07
          
          
            somebody's walking away with
millions
          
                  
            1:29:09
          
          
            and creating this huge industry
I'm not
          
                  
            1:29:11
          
          
            gonna pay me this ridiculous I'm
          
                  
            1:29:13
          
          
            confident it's fine I'm
confident
          
                  
            1:29:16
          
          
            they're bemused smiles would
disappear
          
                  
            1:29:18
          
          
            from their faces that they're
thinking
          
                  
            1:29:19
          
          
            this a TEDx talk TED talk the
instant
          
                  
            1:29:22
          
          
            they learn I'm actually
listening to two
          
                  
            1:29:24
          
          
            old white guys anyhow in
response to
          
                  
            1:29:28
          
          
            John's question a few episodes
ago
          
                  
            1:29:29
          
          
            whether I can still accommodate
          
                  
            1:29:31
          
          
            producers who wish to visit the
Grand
          
                  
            1:29:33
          
          
            Canyon unfortunately I no
longer have
          
                  
            1:29:36
          
          
            the apartment I had when I
initially
          
                  
            1:29:38
          
          
            made the offer because I moved
to
          
                  
            1:29:40
          
          
            Glacier National Park in 2018
to shoot
          
                  
            1:29:45
          
          
            to shoot Prato to shoot problem
grizzly
          
                  
            1:29:48
          
          
            bears with green bags and
rubber bullets
          
                  
            1:29:50
          
          
            for the summer when I returned
to Grand
          
                  
            1:29:53
          
          
            Canyon a year ago the Park
Service put
          
                  
            1:29:55
          
          
            me up in a haunted old hospital
room
          
                  
            1:29:58
          
          
            that has been converted into a
very
          
                  
            1:30:00
          
          
            Spartan living quarters I'm no
longer
          
                  
            1:30:02
          
          
            able to help out that's too bad
          
                  
            1:30:05
          
          
            you can probably give us a tour
well hey
          
                  
            1:30:08
          
          
            I'd like to shoot some bean
bags and
          
                  
            1:30:10
          
          
            some Grizzlies that sounds like
a a plum
          
                  
            1:30:12
          
          
            job cut until the Grizzlies go
after you
          
                  
            1:30:17
          
          
            this shows have been remarkable
          
                  
            1:30:19
          
          
            phenomenal recently and I'm
patiently
          
                  
            1:30:22
          
          
            awaiting the hovering Killary
to finally
          
                  
            1:30:25
          
          
            swoop in and enter the ring of
          
                  
            1:30:27
          
          
            professional wrestling keep up
the great
          
                  
            1:30:30
          
          
            deconstruction and know that
your
          
                  
            1:30:32
          
          
            analysis is deeply appreciated
miles
          
                  
            1:30:35
          
          
            into the inner Canyon at some
bunkhouse
          
                  
            1:30:38
          
          
            where there's no Wi-Fi cable or
any
          
                  
            1:30:41
          
          
            radio reception
          
                  
            1:30:42
          
          
            I request jobs karma for all
and a China
          
                  
            1:30:46
          
          
            is asshole sir Campos range are
always
          
                  
            1:30:50
          
          
            lovely to get a note from you
jobs jobs
          
                  
            1:30:55
          
          
            and jobs let's vote for job
you've got
          
                  
            1:31:00
          
          
            karma and that's the end of our
list of
          
                  
            1:31:05
          
          
            associate executive producers
and
          
                  
            1:31:06
          
          
            executive producers for sure
1188 I want
          
                  
            1:31:09
          
          
            to thank each and every one of
you for
          
                  
            1:31:11
          
          
            helping us and a reminder that
the
          
                  
            1:31:13
          
          
            titles these executive
producers and
          
                  
            1:31:15
          
          
            associate executive producers
receive
          
                  
            1:31:17
          
          
            for their contribution to
today's
          
                  
            1:31:18
          
          
            program gives them the actual
credit of
          
                  
            1:31:21
          
          
            executive producer or associate
          
                  
            1:31:23
          
          
            executive producer of no agenda
show
          
                  
            1:31:24
          
          
            1188 you can display it proudly
on your
          
                  
            1:31:27
          
          
            CV your resume your LinkedIn
profile
          
                  
            1:31:30
          
          
            LinkedIn by the way is the only
place
          
                  
            1:31:32
          
          
            you're gonna get hired these
days I've
          
                  
            1:31:33
          
          
            learned now all these job sites
is
          
                  
            1:31:35
          
          
            bullcrap
          
                  
            1:31:36
          
          
            you gotta put stuff on your
LinkedIn
          
                  
            1:31:38
          
          
            profile fill that out that's
where
          
                  
            1:31:40
          
          
            people are finding jobs it's
much I just
          
                  
            1:31:42
          
          
            happen to know this from some
recent
          
                  
            1:31:43
          
          
            experience this is the place to
be add
          
                  
            1:31:45
          
          
            that to your list and then let
us know
          
                  
            1:31:48
          
          
            if it made a difference it
should and
          
                  
            1:31:50
          
          
            will be thanking more people
$50 and
          
                  
            1:31:53
          
          
            above in our second segment and
of
          
                  
            1:31:54
          
          
            course anyone can get one of
these
          
                  
            1:31:56
          
          
            credits for themselves all you
have to
          
                  
            1:31:58
          
          
            do
          
                  
            1:31:58
          
          
            our next show on the second
Thursday of
          
                  
            1:32:00
          
          
            the week also known as Sunday
is go to
          
                  
            1:32:01
          
          
            Dvorak org slash a we are the
ones who
          
                  
            1:32:07
          
          
            predict everything like Hillary
our
          
                  
            1:32:10
          
          
            formula is this we go out for
your
          
                  
            1:32:14
          
          
            people in the mouth
          
                  
            1:32:22
          
          
            my gosh can you see that cute
          
                  
            1:32:26
          
          
            [Music]
          
                  
            1:32:29
          
          
            just fit it in there just got
it in the
          
                  
            1:32:32
          
          
            hole good shot so I want to
play us
          
                  
            1:32:37
          
          
            something to take a little side
trip
          
                  
            1:32:38
          
          
            here and do a little something
a little
          
                  
            1:32:41
          
          
            intellectual oh why I wanted to
play
          
                  
            1:32:45
          
          
            back day to kick the kick drugs
okay
          
                  
            1:32:48
          
          
            let's try it this is there's a
guy out
          
                  
            1:32:52
          
          
            there who's a very famous
historian he
          
                  
            1:32:54
          
          
            talks mostly about the
Peloponnesian
          
                  
            1:32:56
          
          
            wars and things like that his
name's
          
                  
            1:32:58
          
          
            Victor David Hansen honestly
I've seen
          
                  
            1:33:00
          
          
            these marine area die character
he did a
          
                  
            1:33:05
          
          
            book recently called the case
for Trump
          
                  
            1:33:07
          
          
            oh yeah he's total Pro Trump
he's a
          
                  
            1:33:10
          
          
            trump er yeah and and he
manages to get
          
                  
            1:33:14
          
          
            by an academia I was looking at
some
          
                  
            1:33:15
          
          
            stats recently this year in the
social
          
                  
            1:33:18
          
          
            sciences or even the history
department
          
                  
            1:33:19
          
          
            the ratio of Democrats or
Republicans
          
                  
            1:33:21
          
          
            it's like 50 to 1 mm-hmm but he
is so
          
                  
            1:33:26
          
          
            good that nobody cares but he
was on
          
                  
            1:33:27
          
          
            this show that the Stanford
Hoover
          
                  
            1:33:31
          
          
            Institute does right okay your
question
          
                  
            1:33:34
          
          
            yes what exactly is the Hoover
Institute
          
                  
            1:33:37
          
          
            who's behind it what's the deal
who's
          
                  
            1:33:39
          
          
            financing it well the Hoover
Institution
          
                  
            1:33:42
          
          
            around forever and I started
off I think
          
                  
            1:33:44
          
          
            with an endowment from Hoover
himself to
          
                  
            1:33:47
          
          
            Stanford and it became this
Institute
          
                  
            1:33:49
          
          
            and who's currently financing
it is I
          
                  
            1:33:52
          
          
            don't know but I'm sure it's a
bunch of
          
                  
            1:33:53
          
          
            writers it's a part of Stanford
          
                  
            1:33:55
          
          
            University yes it is
          
                  
            1:33:57
          
          
            so but he's not kinda they load
up with
          
                  
            1:34:00
          
          
            visiting professors mm-hmm and
people
          
                  
            1:34:03
          
          
            who are over there to write
books while
          
                  
            1:34:05
          
          
            they're there and they have
meetings
          
                  
            1:34:07
          
          
            here in nation but this is a
Stanford
          
                  
            1:34:10
          
          
            isn't that a liberal Lefty yes
College
          
                  
            1:34:14
          
          
            the Hoover Institute David the
way they
          
                  
            1:34:16
          
          
            see it the Hoover Institute is
like
          
                  
            1:34:17
          
          
            there we're balanced like that
okay yeah
          
                  
            1:34:27
          
          
            I hear you got you make sense
look at
          
                  
            1:34:33
          
          
            the Hoover Institute in the
cage over
          
                  
            1:34:35
          
          
            there we're balanced okay he
did a
          
                  
            1:34:41
          
          
            couple of historical and now
          
                  
            1:34:43
          
          
            seas of World War two and I
thought that
          
                  
            1:34:45
          
          
            these I picked a couple of
clips up just
          
                  
            1:34:47
          
          
            very three of them and I wanted
to play
          
                  
            1:34:50
          
          
            and probably us in the order
let's start
          
                  
            1:34:53
          
          
            with Victor Hansen on Japan in
World War
          
                  
            1:34:56
          
          
            two Japan Japan was strange
because as I
          
                  
            1:35:00
          
          
            said they were the most vicious
they
          
                  
            1:35:02
          
          
            killed seventeen million people
in China
          
                  
            1:35:04
          
          
            and yet they lost three million
quite a
          
                  
            1:35:07
          
          
            lot we burned down 40% of their
urban
          
                  
            1:35:10
          
          
            through the b-29 in sendiri
raids and
          
                  
            1:35:12
          
          
            Hiroshima and Nagasaki but we
never
          
                  
            1:35:15
          
          
            invaded their land as we had
done Italy
          
                  
            1:35:18
          
          
            in Germany so they had not seen
a battle
          
                  
            1:35:20
          
          
            on their own turf I know
they've been
          
                  
            1:35:23
          
          
            bombed but when they
unilaterally then
          
                  
            1:35:26
          
          
            surrendered they never quite
accepted
          
                  
            1:35:29
          
          
            that the American marines or
army could
          
                  
            1:35:32
          
          
            get face to face with when they
never
          
                  
            1:35:33
          
          
            came to deal with her past as
they do
          
                  
            1:35:35
          
          
            today and if you don't believe
me they
          
                  
            1:35:37
          
          
            just put their big first big
carrier you
          
                  
            1:35:39
          
          
            see it they just launched it
you know
          
                  
            1:35:42
          
          
            what the name of it was the
kaga you
          
                  
            1:35:44
          
          
            know what the cargo was it was
the
          
                  
            1:35:45
          
          
            leading carrier of Pearl Harbor
          
                  
            1:35:47
          
          
            huh and those yeah this is
recent this
          
                  
            1:35:52
          
          
            speech he did
          
                  
            1:35:54
          
          
            this yeah this was a speech it
was in
          
                  
            1:35:56
          
          
            the interview uh this was
probably about
          
                  
            1:35:58
          
          
            three years old okay I ran into
it I
          
                  
            1:36:00
          
          
            thought it had good stuff that
I'd never
          
                  
            1:36:01
          
          
            heard before I didn't know that
I didn't
          
                  
            1:36:05
          
          
            know that either
          
                  
            1:36:05
          
          
            it's kind of the only reason
for the
          
                  
            1:36:07
          
          
            clip it's not piece of obscure
          
                  
            1:36:08
          
          
            information for trim it so on
it's kind
          
                  
            1:36:11
          
          
            of rude
          
                  
            1:36:11
          
          
            you think yeah I mean how come
not worse
          
                  
            1:36:14
          
          
            Trump calling him out on this
well I
          
                  
            1:36:17
          
          
            think it was during the Obama
team so
          
                  
            1:36:18
          
          
            that explains it okay got it
now let's
          
                  
            1:36:21
          
          
            talk about a peas bit a little
bit this
          
                  
            1:36:23
          
          
            was good in 1932 1933 the Oxford
          
                  
            1:36:29
          
          
            debating society a very famous
debate
          
                  
            1:36:32
          
          
            said for king and country I
shall not
          
                  
            1:36:35
          
          
            fight at the same time they
were already
          
                  
            1:36:39
          
          
            trying to violate the Tennis the
          
                  
            1:36:41
          
          
            Versailles Treaty in Germany
Mussolini
          
                  
            1:36:44
          
          
            was already planning to go into
Ethiopia
          
                  
            1:36:46
          
          
            the Japanese had been fighting
for two
          
                  
            1:36:48
          
          
            years so there was the sense of
          
                  
            1:36:50
          
          
            appeasement which is a good
word at that
          
                  
            1:36:52
          
          
            time that you were ready ready
to listen
          
                  
            1:36:54
          
          
            soft power lead from behind
that's what
          
                  
            1:36:57
          
          
            it was but it meant that they
sacrificed
          
                  
            1:37:00
          
          
            their material advantages
because the
          
                  
            1:37:03
          
          
            people in it were not willing
to fight
          
                  
            1:37:05
          
          
            in other words they weren't
they lost it
          
                  
            1:37:06
          
          
            turns because they were not
willing to
          
                  
            1:37:08
          
          
            lose a few thousand soldiers so
they
          
                  
            1:37:11
          
          
            wouldn't lose 60 million people
in a war
          
                  
            1:37:13
          
          
            and that translated on the
battlefield
          
                  
            1:37:15
          
          
            as a bf109 was no better than a
french
          
                  
            1:37:19
          
          
            fighter mark three tank was no
better or
          
                  
            1:37:22
          
          
            worse than a shark tank but five
          
                  
            1:37:25
          
          
            missions for BF 109 per day -
for a
          
                  
            1:37:30
          
          
            french fighter french tanks ran
out of
          
                  
            1:37:33
          
          
            gas
          
                  
            1:37:34
          
          
            germans did not
          
                  
            1:37:38
          
          
            so he's making the point that
there was
          
                  
            1:37:41
          
          
            no German advantage insofar as
armament
          
                  
            1:37:45
          
          
            this was concerned it was just
          
                  
            1:37:47
          
          
            enthusiasm
          
                  
            1:37:50
          
          
            yeah they were you know if
there's one
          
                  
            1:37:53
          
          
            thing I can say about those
Nazis they
          
                  
            1:37:55
          
          
            had enthusiasm to were
enthusiastic very
          
                  
            1:37:58
          
          
            enthusiastic about the mission
yes yeah
          
                  
            1:38:01
          
          
            good point from the professor
there
          
                  
            1:38:03
          
          
            mm-hmm now so again this speech
took
          
                  
            1:38:06
          
          
            place during the Obama
administration so
          
                  
            1:38:08
          
          
            this is his last little clip I
thought
          
                  
            1:38:09
          
          
            was interesting he's talking
about the
          
                  
            1:38:11
          
          
            UK and it's something we never
consider
          
                  
            1:38:15
          
          
            in fact we don't even consider
the fact
          
                  
            1:38:17
          
          
            that Russia is largely
responsible for
          
                  
            1:38:19
          
          
            winning World War two
          
                  
            1:38:20
          
          
            well we draw you and I do with
you and I
          
                  
            1:38:23
          
          
            do in a few people listening to
show do
          
                  
            1:38:25
          
          
            and some other people that are
sensible
          
                  
            1:38:27
          
          
            to realize this but a lot of
people
          
                  
            1:38:29
          
          
            don't and they don't care one
way or the
          
                  
            1:38:31
          
          
            other but this part about the
UK is not
          
                  
            1:38:34
          
          
            discussed and it's probably
just as
          
                  
            1:38:36
          
          
            important as recognizing the
Russia for
          
                  
            1:38:39
          
          
            helping beat Hitler and it's
kind of
          
                  
            1:38:42
          
          
            more interesting because it's
even more
          
                  
            1:38:45
          
          
            ignored Britain waged a
brilliant war it
          
                  
            1:38:49
          
          
            was the only country to fight
the first
          
                  
            1:38:50
          
          
            day of the war and the last day
of war
          
                  
            1:38:52
          
          
            September 1st of September 2nd
six years
          
                  
            1:38:54
          
          
            no other country fought the
entire war
          
                  
            1:38:56
          
          
            no other country went to war
think of
          
                  
            1:38:58
          
          
            this for the principle of an
ally we
          
                  
            1:39:01
          
          
            only went to war when they
attack the
          
                  
            1:39:02
          
          
            Soviet Union only went to war
when they
          
                  
            1:39:04
          
          
            attacked us Germany attacked
people
          
                  
            1:39:06
          
          
            Italy attacked people Japan not
Britain
          
                  
            1:39:08
          
          
            it went through a war for
principle they
          
                  
            1:39:11
          
          
            were brilliantly led they put
40 percent
          
                  
            1:39:15
          
          
            of their investment in land and
sea air
          
                  
            1:39:17
          
          
            and naval power they avoided
this Psalm
          
                  
            1:39:20
          
          
            that Verdun they lost the
fewest of all
          
                  
            1:39:22
          
          
            the major 425 less than half
what they
          
                  
            1:39:25
          
          
            had lost in World War one and
they
          
                  
            1:39:26
          
          
            fought a much more ambitious
war into
          
                  
            1:39:28
          
          
            that being said they Mobil I
think we
          
                  
            1:39:33
          
          
            mobilized they mobilized to a
degree
          
                  
            1:39:35
          
          
            that was unprecedented
          
                  
            1:39:36
          
          
            so in terms of per capita
investment
          
                  
            1:39:40
          
          
            than the United States or
Soviet Union
          
                  
            1:39:42
          
          
            and they were flat broke when
the war
          
                  
            1:39:43
          
          
            was over and then unfortunately
because
          
                  
            1:39:46
          
          
            of the deprivation they began to
          
                  
            1:39:48
          
          
            socialize their rails their
healthcare
          
                  
            1:39:50
          
          
            system
          
                  
            1:39:51
          
          
            transportation their iron their
steel
          
                  
            1:39:54
          
          
            industries or power and lo and
behold
          
                  
            1:39:56
          
          
            within ten years the countries
that were
          
                  
            1:39:58
          
          
            flattened like Japan and
Germany were
          
                  
            1:40:01
          
          
            industrial powerhouses turning
out
          
                  
            1:40:03
          
          
            Mercedes and Honda's & Toyota's
and
          
                  
            1:40:05
          
          
            Britain's car industry take one
example
          
                  
            1:40:07
          
          
            was over with so they had a
very tragic
          
                  
            1:40:09
          
          
            and they also gave up their
empire
          
                  
            1:40:12
          
          
            willingly so but there there's
was a
          
                  
            1:40:14
          
          
            tragic experience it makes me
very mad
          
                  
            1:40:19
          
          
            when I hear Obama saying
they're gonna
          
                  
            1:40:20
          
          
            get back at the queue they were
the most
          
                  
            1:40:22
          
          
            admirable and idealistic of all
the
          
                  
            1:40:25
          
          
            allies and they fought way
above what
          
                  
            1:40:27
          
          
            they people thought they were
capable in
          
                  
            1:40:29
          
          
            every single category munitions
except
          
                  
            1:40:32
          
          
            one year of planes they out
produced the
          
                  
            1:40:34
          
          
            Third Reich that had all of
occupied the
          
                  
            1:40:36
          
          
            EU of today under its power huh
well of
          
                  
            1:40:41
          
          
            course it's true I mean even
when we had
          
                  
            1:40:43
          
          
            our office in London it was
still in
          
                  
            1:40:45
          
          
            shortage you know which was
being
          
                  
            1:40:47
          
          
            rebuilt as the hipster place to
be but
          
                  
            1:40:49
          
          
            there were still bombed out
buildings
          
                  
            1:40:50
          
          
            there yeah they they took they
took it
          
                  
            1:40:53
          
          
            hard but you know what they had
an
          
                  
            1:40:55
          
          
            enthusiastic guy
          
                  
            1:40:58
          
          
            they had Church they had a
motivational
          
                  
            1:41:00
          
          
            speaker yeah well this is what's
          
                  
            1:41:02
          
          
            interesting is Burchill both
countries
          
                  
            1:41:04
          
          
            had motive motivated
enthusiastic guys
          
                  
            1:41:09
          
          
            including Hitler if you're
writing about
          
                  
            1:41:12
          
          
            World War two for a paper at
school
          
                  
            1:41:15
          
          
            you can just say Adam uncle
Adam and
          
                  
            1:41:17
          
          
            uncle John said these were
really
          
                  
            1:41:19
          
          
            enthusiastic guys
          
                  
            1:41:22
          
          
            now just a little world war ii
tit but
          
                  
            1:41:25
          
          
            which i feel bad about because
i'm
          
                  
            1:41:29
          
          
            watching the documentary cuz p
QED PBS
          
                  
            1:41:34
          
          
            or logo PBS station has fallen
prey to
          
                  
            1:41:36
          
          
            the History Channel's kind of
          
                  
            1:41:40
          
          
            programming ideas and they have
this
          
                  
            1:41:42
          
          
            series called Nazi mega weapons
oh
          
                  
            1:41:45
          
          
            that's a good one
          
                  
            1:41:46
          
          
            I like that what they have like
a
          
                  
            1:41:49
          
          
            mile-long cannon and stuff no
they were
          
                  
            1:41:51
          
          
            talking about the v1 in this
game okay
          
                  
            1:41:53
          
          
            right there v1 story on Nazi
mega
          
                  
            1:41:56
          
          
            weapons is it's like riveting
it's very
          
                  
            1:41:59
          
          
            interesting and I did not
realize all
          
                  
            1:42:01
          
          
            these years being a baby boomer
all
          
                  
            1:42:07
          
          
            these years that the v1 attacks
on
          
                  
            1:42:09
          
          
            London when they really started
sending
          
                  
            1:42:12
          
          
            the V ones over that I finally
got the
          
                  
            1:42:14
          
          
            thing to work yeah all took
place after
          
                  
            1:42:17
          
          
            d-day oh I didn't know that
either huh
          
                  
            1:42:20
          
          
            so I always thought there was
just
          
                  
            1:42:22
          
          
            something that was going on on
d-day
          
                  
            1:42:24
          
          
            second today yeah done all
right we're
          
                  
            1:42:27
          
          
            good to go
          
                  
            1:42:27
          
          
            ha no so when d-day after d-day
was well
          
                  
            1:42:31
          
          
            underway well underway not just
the day
          
                  
            1:42:34
          
          
            after we're well underway they
start
          
                  
            1:42:35
          
          
            that's when they did the attack
on
          
                  
            1:42:37
          
          
            London with it with the v1
smile so huh
          
                  
            1:42:41
          
          
            that was news to me that's the
and I
          
                  
            1:42:43
          
          
            felt like an idiot you know
they still
          
                  
            1:42:45
          
          
            dig one of those up from time
to time
          
                  
            1:42:46
          
          
            here and in Holland they're
draining
          
                  
            1:42:49
          
          
            some water yeah because they do
that
          
                  
            1:42:52
          
          
            like reclaiming reclaiming some
land and
          
                  
            1:42:54
          
          
            all of a sudden they'll be the
v1 Oh
          
                  
            1:42:57
          
          
            surface unexploded of course
stuff like
          
                  
            1:43:00
          
          
            that shows up all the time
          
                  
            1:43:01
          
          
            dude was it's the interesting
thing
          
                  
            1:43:02
          
          
            about this v1 that really got my
          
                  
            1:43:05
          
          
            attention I'd like to see at
this
          
                  
            1:43:06
          
          
            machine I like to see there was
a little
          
                  
            1:43:09
          
          
            device they rolled out that was
the size
          
                  
            1:43:10
          
          
            of like a v8 engine with a
bunch of big
          
                  
            1:43:14
          
          
            pipes and weird stuff cooked to
it and
          
                  
            1:43:17
          
          
            it was it was some sort of a
steam bomb
          
                  
            1:43:20
          
          
            and they would hook this thing
to the
          
                  
            1:43:22
          
          
            the v1 would be strapped to
this rocket
          
                  
            1:43:25
          
          
            launcher device so would get it
going
          
                  
            1:43:27
          
          
            hmm
          
                  
            1:43:28
          
          
            and they did this thing
generated this
          
                  
            1:43:31
          
          
            little device it was very small
I was
          
                  
            1:43:33
          
          
            moving I wasn't like a ramjet
type deal
          
                  
            1:43:35
          
          
            they had going on
          
                  
            1:43:36
          
          
            there yeah but the ramjets a
real
          
                  
            1:43:38
          
          
            problematic cuz you can't make
them
          
                  
            1:43:40
          
          
            actually do anything until
they're going
          
                  
            1:43:42
          
          
            at high speeds it's a it was a
ramjet
          
                  
            1:43:46
          
          
            huh but they had to get it
launching
          
                  
            1:43:48
          
          
            into the air it at high speeds
to get it
          
                  
            1:43:51
          
          
            to start really working and
then it took
          
                  
            1:43:53
          
          
            off it like the ramjet it
wasn't flew
          
                  
            1:43:55
          
          
            across the channel but they had
to
          
                  
            1:43:57
          
          
            launch it with something and
they didn't
          
                  
            1:43:59
          
          
            have like rocket launchers or
any way to
          
                  
            1:44:01
          
          
            get in to go into anything
would want to
          
                  
            1:44:03
          
          
            use a spring or anything they
had this
          
                  
            1:44:05
          
          
            little device and they showed
it and it
          
                  
            1:44:07
          
          
            was like it created a steam
bomb and
          
                  
            1:44:10
          
          
            they'd wrap it onto this they
did latch
          
                  
            1:44:13
          
          
            it onto the back of the
launching
          
                  
            1:44:16
          
          
            platform and it would be hooked
to them
          
                  
            1:44:18
          
          
            to the rocket and then they
clamp it
          
                  
            1:44:20
          
          
            down with a bunch of these
levers and it
          
                  
            1:44:22
          
          
            would then they turn it on it
would
          
                  
            1:44:23
          
          
            generate this apparently like
          
                  
            1:44:27
          
          
            unbelievable amount of steam
and then
          
                  
            1:44:30
          
          
            they release it and it would go
push
          
                  
            1:44:33
          
          
            this rocket up and if you see
any
          
                  
            1:44:35
          
          
            launches of a v1 if you're
gonna look
          
                  
            1:44:37
          
          
            them up on YouTube all that
smoke and
          
                  
            1:44:40
          
          
            crap is actually the steam
explosion and
          
                  
            1:44:43
          
          
            then they roll the thing back
and use it
          
                  
            1:44:45
          
          
            again what was this thing is
there a an
          
                  
            1:44:49
          
          
            equivalent for rockets for
train fo Murs
          
                  
            1:44:54
          
          
            I think you hit the nail on the
head -
          
                  
            1:44:58
          
          
            the more you know in the
mornings
          
                  
            1:45:00
          
          
            [Music]
          
                  
            1:45:12
          
          
            that's right everybody we're
looking at
          
                  
            1:45:14
          
          
            glitches bitches that's right
hit me now
          
                  
            1:45:19
          
          
            yes there's been some glitches
in the
          
                  
            1:45:21
          
          
            news that I'd like to highlight
from
          
                  
            1:45:23
          
          
            time to time because sometimes
they
          
                  
            1:45:25
          
          
            affect your life which unless
you're OTG
          
                  
            1:45:28
          
          
            and you're careful with what
you rely on
          
                  
            1:45:31
          
          
            for your life but sometimes it
can be a
          
                  
            1:45:33
          
          
            really interesting thing and not
          
                  
            1:45:36
          
          
            necessarily a negative such as
the
          
                  
            1:45:38
          
          
            latest glitch in the Robin Hood
trading
          
                  
            1:45:42
          
          
            app some tricky Robin Hood
users were
          
                  
            1:45:44
          
          
            able to get extra leverage on
the
          
                  
            1:45:46
          
          
            training app they did this by
the way
          
                  
            1:45:48
          
          
            this audio is what CNBC
broadcasts I
          
                  
            1:45:50
          
          
            didn't have anything to do with
that at
          
                  
            1:45:52
          
          
            over modulated traps you
leverage on the
          
                  
            1:45:54
          
          
            training app they did this
through
          
                  
            1:45:55
          
          
            margin training which is
perfectly
          
                  
            1:45:57
          
          
            common very legal a lot of
brokerage
          
                  
            1:45:59
          
          
            firms do that so users are able
to put
          
                  
            1:46:01
          
          
            down a small percentage of the
train and
          
                  
            1:46:04
          
          
            then a brokerage firm acts as a
lender
          
                  
            1:46:06
          
          
            the glitcher though was that
users
          
                  
            1:46:07
          
          
            overstated the amount of money
that they
          
                  
            1:46:09
          
          
            had in their accounts to borrow
and
          
                  
            1:46:11
          
          
            we're able to sort of cheat the
system
          
                  
            1:46:13
          
          
            here so it's discovered on
reddit you
          
                  
            1:46:15
          
          
            can think of this similar to a
sort of
          
                  
            1:46:17
          
          
            video game hack where users
were helping
          
                  
            1:46:19
          
          
            each other out and outlining a
step by
          
                  
            1:46:21
          
          
            step process so other people
could
          
                  
            1:46:23
          
          
            repeat this they were calling
it like
          
                  
            1:46:25
          
          
            you said infinite leverage or
the
          
                  
            1:46:27
          
          
            infinite money cheat code one
trader was
          
                  
            1:46:29
          
          
            claiming on reddit that he took
a 1
          
                  
            1:46:31
          
          
            million dollar position was
only four
          
                  
            1:46:34
          
          
            thousand dollars worth of
deposits
          
                  
            1:46:36
          
          
            another claim that he got 25
times
          
                  
            1:46:38
          
          
            leverage and fifty thousand
dollars
          
                  
            1:46:41
          
          
            worth of buying power to buy
some stock
          
                  
            1:46:43
          
          
            to Robin Hood technology in the
glitch
          
                  
            1:46:45
          
          
            and that this happened a
spokesperson
          
                  
            1:46:46
          
          
            telling CNBC they're aware of
the
          
                  
            1:46:49
          
          
            isolated situations and are
          
                  
            1:46:50
          
          
            communicating directly with
customers I
          
                  
            1:46:53
          
          
            kind of like this glitch which
you know
          
                  
            1:46:57
          
          
            it about it you can call it a
glitch or
          
                  
            1:46:59
          
          
            you could just say major
boo-boo bad
          
                  
            1:47:03
          
          
            code my goodness so yes so
somehow you
          
                  
            1:47:05
          
          
            able to hack around in the app
so that
          
                  
            1:47:07
          
          
            it gave you unlimited leverage
you could
          
                  
            1:47:10
          
          
            borrow as much as you needed
for your
          
                  
            1:47:12
          
          
            trades oh my god how those
trades were
          
                  
            1:47:15
          
          
            were handled in the after all's
said and
          
                  
            1:47:19
          
          
            done they have to I wonder if
they wind
          
                  
            1:47:21
          
          
            him back mom they might wind
him back I
          
                  
            1:47:23
          
          
            don't know but then they also
have to
          
                  
            1:47:24
          
          
            wind back the one person I saw
who
          
                  
            1:47:26
          
          
            posted something that they they
did a
          
                  
            1:47:28
          
          
            big leverage thing in their app
and they
          
                  
            1:47:30
          
          
            were down 22 grand
          
                  
            1:47:31
          
          
            I wonder if you get that back
to not
          
                  
            1:47:34
          
          
            only the prophecy okay probably
don't
          
                  
            1:47:37
          
          
            get that back
          
                  
            1:47:39
          
          
            then there was this is one of my
          
                  
            1:47:41
          
          
            favorites we go to Australia
and that of
          
                  
            1:47:43
          
          
            the hardest part of the day and
it
          
                  
            1:47:45
          
          
            really is if you are some of
the drivers
          
                  
            1:47:46
          
          
            out there safely getting tens of
          
                  
            1:47:48
          
          
            thousands of people out of
flemington
          
                  
            1:47:50
          
          
            Jade Vinson is on Ballarat Road
Jade
          
                  
            1:47:53
          
          
            just absolute bumper-to-bumper
bedlam
          
                  
            1:47:56
          
          
            over where you have a look at
the cars
          
                  
            1:48:00
          
          
            as you say bumper-to-bumper
here on
          
                  
            1:48:01
          
          
            Ballarat Road these are mostly
uber
          
                  
            1:48:04
          
          
            drivers trying to get into
Flemington
          
                  
            1:48:06
          
          
            Racecourse to pick people up
who are
          
                  
            1:48:08
          
          
            desperately trying to get home
and this
          
                  
            1:48:11
          
          
            is all because of a major
technical
          
                  
            1:48:13
          
          
            glitch we out today so the
pickup zones
          
                  
            1:48:16
          
          
            inside the racecourse have been
shut
          
                  
            1:48:18
          
          
            down while uber tries to work
to fix the
          
                  
            1:48:21
          
          
            problem race goers tens of
thousands of
          
                  
            1:48:23
          
          
            race goers who were planning on
you
          
                  
            1:48:24
          
          
            using uber to get home we're
told that
          
                  
            1:48:27
          
          
            they need to walk streets away
from
          
                  
            1:48:29
          
          
            Flemington to book an uber or
find an
          
                  
            1:48:31
          
          
            alternative mode of transport
          
                  
            1:48:34
          
          
            uber did apologize for the
inconvenience
          
                  
            1:48:36
          
          
            and released a statement saying
          
                  
            1:48:38
          
          
            unfortunately technical issues
have
          
                  
            1:48:40
          
          
            meant that we are currently
unable to
          
                  
            1:48:42
          
          
            connect all drivers and riders
at the
          
                  
            1:48:44
          
          
            dedicated uber signs oh brother
this is
          
                  
            1:48:49
          
          
            just the beginning
          
                  
            1:48:50
          
          
            you know taxis aren't that much
more
          
                  
            1:48:52
          
          
            expensive or if they even are
and they
          
                  
            1:48:55
          
          
            want you to jump in a cab and
get out of
          
                  
            1:48:56
          
          
            it a lot cheaper in this case
because
          
                  
            1:48:58
          
          
            because of the glitch they had
so many
          
                  
            1:49:00
          
          
            people that they went into
there what is
          
                  
            1:49:04
          
          
            their overdrive their surge
surge price
          
                  
            1:49:07
          
          
            yes sir surge pricing so is
like 30
          
                  
            1:49:12
          
          
            bucks which is twice as much as
a cab
          
                  
            1:49:14
          
          
            that's Australian dollar adieu
so you
          
                  
            1:49:16
          
          
            know nothing basically pennies
pennies
          
                  
            1:49:18
          
          
            are driving for around there
          
                  
            1:49:22
          
          
            very strange so just a few few
other
          
                  
            1:49:25
          
          
            things that are happening oh
yeah oh
          
                  
            1:49:28
          
          
            this I got a good couple things
you want
          
                  
            1:49:29
          
          
            to let's do this this is a
little site
          
                  
            1:49:32
          
          
            thing this is when Steve Hilton
attacked
          
                  
            1:49:33
          
          
            it Maria you know about this
yeah I was
          
                  
            1:49:36
          
          
            just gonna do have to more edgy
things
          
                  
            1:49:38
          
          
            but if you want to move away
this call
          
                  
            1:49:39
          
          
            way off the great well if
you're gonna
          
                  
            1:49:40
          
          
            do off-the-grid do more off the
grid
          
                  
            1:49:42
          
          
            because I think I may have
something
          
                  
            1:49:43
          
          
            oh good well I just have two
stories one
          
                  
            1:49:47
          
          
            is Google apparently now
finally killing
          
                  
            1:49:50
          
          
            off URLs if you look at not
everyone has
          
                  
            1:49:54
          
          
            it but a lot of people who are
now
          
                  
            1:49:56
          
          
            getting search results you just
get the
          
                  
            1:49:59
          
          
            result with a link and it
doesn't give
          
                  
            1:50:01
          
          
            you the URL anymore
          
                  
            1:50:04
          
          
            which is doesn't it still show
up in the
          
                  
            1:50:08
          
          
            a12 invariably I've seen it
twice
          
                  
            1:50:12
          
          
            although in Netherlands so I
don't know
          
                  
            1:50:14
          
          
            what I'm hitting here twice it
showed up
          
                  
            1:50:16
          
          
            where I didn't see them and now
I just
          
                  
            1:50:18
          
          
            of course when talking about it
it does
          
                  
            1:50:20
          
          
            show them but they're
experimenting with
          
                  
            1:50:22
          
          
            it and it's been going on
forever yeah a
          
                  
            1:50:25
          
          
            lot of people think well I
think it's a
          
                  
            1:50:27
          
          
            hijack personally they want to
do
          
                  
            1:50:29
          
          
            keyword exactly that's exactly
what
          
                  
            1:50:32
          
          
            they're going for keywords and
then this
          
                  
            1:50:34
          
          
            latest experiment which I
didn't realize
          
                  
            1:50:37
          
          
            was possible I mean would take
quite a
          
                  
            1:50:39
          
          
            bit to actually use this as a
hack but
          
                  
            1:50:44
          
          
            it turns out when you have
these talking
          
                  
            1:50:48
          
          
            tubes or spy spy devices as we
like to
          
                  
            1:50:51
          
          
            call them such as Amazon Alexa
and the
          
                  
            1:50:54
          
          
            Google home now they use the
MEMS
          
                  
            1:50:56
          
          
            microphones which is a
microphone array
          
                  
            1:50:58
          
          
            what is what does MEMS stand
for do you
          
                  
            1:51:00
          
          
            know what that is John MEMS yab
you the
          
                  
            1:51:02
          
          
            micro electronic mechanism
something
          
                  
            1:51:05
          
          
            like I don't have the exact
term but
          
                  
            1:51:07
          
          
            these are these are micro
mechanical
          
                  
            1:51:11
          
          
            devices that are for example if
you have
          
                  
            1:51:14
          
          
            a Kindle
          
                  
            1:51:17
          
          
            that's a MEMS display and so
it's that's
          
                  
            1:51:20
          
          
            why so just semi-permanent when
it comes
          
                  
            1:51:23
          
          
            on mm-hmm it's because you're
actually
          
                  
            1:51:26
          
          
            looking at little things that
flip did
          
                  
            1:51:30
          
          
            microscopic levels oh well that
makes
          
                  
            1:51:32
          
          
            sense then MEMS are also used
in modern
          
                  
            1:51:37
          
          
            these crazy scales you can buy
at Costco
          
                  
            1:51:39
          
          
            they don't have anything this
spring
          
                  
            1:51:42
          
          
            snow spring is you stand on the
scale
          
                  
            1:51:44
          
          
            and the MEMS that are on the
four feet
          
                  
            1:51:47
          
          
            oh okay interesting they can do
weights
          
                  
            1:51:51
          
          
            they can mmm technology which
there's
          
                  
            1:51:53
          
          
            taken over mostly by the
Europeans has
          
                  
            1:51:55
          
          
            not been emphasized much in
this country
          
                  
            1:51:57
          
          
            because we kind of fell behind
in the
          
                  
            1:52:01
          
          
            technology most of Europeans do
it and
          
                  
            1:52:04
          
          
            then it was taken over by the
Japanese
          
                  
            1:52:05
          
          
            and the Chinese so well this
yeah
          
                  
            1:52:07
          
          
            there's a pretty cool hack and
now I
          
                  
            1:52:09
          
          
            understand why the hack works
because it
          
                  
            1:52:11
          
          
            works with Google Assistant
Amazon Alexa
          
                  
            1:52:14
          
          
            Facebook portal and Apple Siri
          
                  
            1:52:17
          
          
            what the tet what the hack is is
          
                  
            1:52:20
          
          
            modulating a laser then in the
          
                  
            1:52:24
          
          
            demonstration is just you know
like a
          
                  
            1:52:25
          
          
            laser pen they modulated it
with okay
          
                  
            1:52:29
          
          
            google open the garage door in
the and
          
                  
            1:52:32
          
          
            they point the laser through
through a
          
                  
            1:52:36
          
          
            window onto the microphone of
and the
          
                  
            1:52:39
          
          
            the demo I saw was Google
assistant and
          
                  
            1:52:42
          
          
            the laser activates the MEMS
and then
          
                  
            1:52:45
          
          
            the garage you know it goo GLE
home
          
                  
            1:52:47
          
          
            actually said okay opening the
garage
          
                  
            1:52:49
          
          
            door not hearing anything but
activated
          
                  
            1:52:52
          
          
            by the light
          
                  
            1:52:55
          
          
            Wow how cool is that this is
another for
          
                  
            1:52:59
          
          
            you writers out there looking
for a
          
                  
            1:53:00
          
          
            storyline you imagine how much
damage
          
                  
            1:53:04
          
          
            you could do if if you can you
can
          
                  
            1:53:07
          
          
            control everything through or a
lot of
          
                  
            1:53:10
          
          
            things I like to hear more
about this
          
                  
            1:53:12
          
          
            because if the ma'am microphone
which
          
                  
            1:53:16
          
          
            I've always wondered why I
haven't seen
          
                  
            1:53:18
          
          
            more of these things if that it
can be
          
                  
            1:53:21
          
          
            it's generally they're pretty
specific
          
                  
            1:53:24
          
          
            on how they work and if it
could be
          
                  
            1:53:26
          
          
            activated by a pulsating laser
and I'm
          
                  
            1:53:30
          
          
            skeptic well they have a
YouTube video
          
                  
            1:53:32
          
          
            of it it's in the show notes at
any show
          
                  
            1:53:34
          
          
            notes com
          
                  
            1:53:35
          
          
            it looks legit and in fact they
even use
          
                  
            1:53:37
          
          
            the telescope that's how far
away they
          
                  
            1:53:40
          
          
            were to folk to be able to see
if they
          
                  
            1:53:42
          
          
            were focusing on the device
itself and
          
                  
            1:53:44
          
          
            it worked
          
                  
            1:53:46
          
          
            I like the idea that I'd cast
it I'm
          
                  
            1:53:52
          
          
            very skeptical of this story
well I
          
                  
            1:53:54
          
          
            thought it was very cool and
then I
          
                  
            1:53:56
          
          
            learned a little bit about what
because
          
                  
            1:54:00
          
          
            there's a lot of people here
who I know
          
                  
            1:54:02
          
          
            who I'm being sketchy I know
who review
          
                  
            1:54:06
          
          
            stuff for search companies and
their job
          
                  
            1:54:11
          
          
            is to check to see if what
someone said
          
                  
            1:54:14
          
          
            when they asked ok Google
whatever the
          
                  
            1:54:18
          
          
            question was you know there's a
I guess
          
                  
            1:54:20
          
          
            there's a random selection and
these
          
                  
            1:54:23
          
          
            worker people who are you know
minimum
          
                  
            1:54:27
          
          
            wage are paid to to make
decisions if
          
                  
            1:54:31
          
          
            this is something that if did
they get
          
                  
            1:54:33
          
          
            the right result from the
search engine
          
                  
            1:54:35
          
          
            and I've learned two important
standards
          
                  
            1:54:38
          
          
            because I'm always interested
in the
          
                  
            1:54:40
          
          
            guidelines you know well woody
what are
          
                  
            1:54:42
          
          
            you supposed to do what are you
supposed
          
                  
            1:54:43
          
          
            to to be looking at well you
know we
          
                  
            1:54:46
          
          
            have two phrases that are
embedded into
          
                  
            1:54:49
          
          
            our brain one is eat expertise
authority
          
                  
            1:54:53
          
          
            and trustworthiness so if
there's a
          
                  
            1:54:56
          
          
            search and the search is asking
for some
          
                  
            1:55:01
          
          
            expertise or some for instance
should I
          
                  
            1:55:05
          
          
            take the flu vaccine then they
have to
          
                  
            1:55:08
          
          
            look at the answer based upon
expertise
          
                  
            1:55:11
          
          
            Authority and trustworthiness
and you
          
                  
            1:55:14
          
          
            can only imagine that yes is
always
          
                  
            1:55:16
          
          
            selected because you know these
people
          
                  
            1:55:19
          
          
            then go searching around for
the answer
          
                  
            1:55:22
          
          
            and then they get what they
think fits
          
                  
            1:55:24
          
          
            in the expertise authority and
          
                  
            1:55:26
          
          
            trustworthiness or the eat
section and
          
                  
            1:55:30
          
          
            the next thing is
          
                  
            1:55:33
          
          
            escalate anything that is your
money or
          
                  
            1:55:36
          
          
            your life so if they see
something and
          
                  
            1:55:39
          
          
            you're asking for a certain
thing about
          
                  
            1:55:41
          
          
            a bank transfer or anything
that could
          
                  
            1:55:44
          
          
            then this could come back to
vaccines I
          
                  
            1:55:47
          
          
            guess immediately you have to
escalate
          
                  
            1:55:49
          
          
            it your money or your life
that's an
          
                  
            1:55:50
          
          
            escalation and everything else
is eat
          
                  
            1:55:52
          
          
            expertise authority and
trustworthiness
          
                  
            1:55:54
          
          
            so I was interesting you have
some terms
          
                  
            1:55:56
          
          
            to what they're doing you're
getting
          
                  
            1:56:00
          
          
            this there's some locals some
local guy
          
                  
            1:56:02
          
          
            that's a mole yep for you yep
yep good
          
                  
            1:56:05
          
          
            same person who told me that
the number
          
                  
            1:56:07
          
          
            one search during rush hour in
the
          
                  
            1:56:10
          
          
            Netherlands Google search so
someone's
          
                  
            1:56:13
          
          
            talking into their phone and
asked and
          
                  
            1:56:16
          
          
            these are old guys we don't know
          
                  
            1:56:17
          
          
            anything else other than they
sound old
          
                  
            1:56:19
          
          
            in their car asking for porn
with black
          
                  
            1:56:23
          
          
            women
          
                  
            1:56:25
          
          
            I know it's very disturbing to
think
          
                  
            1:56:28
          
          
            about that in the nether
Holland yes and
          
                  
            1:56:32
          
          
            that is a common search term
during rush
          
                  
            1:56:35
          
          
            hour people talking to their
phones
          
                  
            1:56:38
          
          
            requesting this while they're
in their
          
                  
            1:56:40
          
          
            car
          
                  
            1:56:43
          
          
            but wait a minute this they're
talking
          
                  
            1:56:46
          
          
            about for day one where's the
porn gonna
          
                  
            1:56:48
          
          
            show up or the guys just
somebody on the
          
                  
            1:56:50
          
          
            screen they free didn't have it
if you
          
                  
            1:56:52
          
          
            if you're in the car you just
say to
          
                  
            1:56:54
          
          
            your phone ok Google show some
porn with
          
                  
            1:56:57
          
          
            black women yeah and then what
well then
          
                  
            1:57:02
          
          
            it'll take you to a page and
it'll and
          
                  
            1:57:04
          
          
            you're driving
          
                  
            1:57:05
          
          
            hello yes I understand your
surprise yes
          
                  
            1:57:12
          
          
            they're driving when they ask
these
          
                  
            1:57:14
          
          
            questions yes I guess they just
want to
          
                  
            1:57:16
          
          
            see it while they're driving or
maybe
          
                  
            1:57:17
          
          
            they're stuck in traffic
they're bored
          
                  
            1:57:21
          
          
            brother it's always terrible I
just
          
                  
            1:57:28
          
          
            thought that's a great statistic
          
                  
            1:57:30
          
          
            yeah well it's one of those
trade
          
                  
            1:57:33
          
          
            secrets yeah I guess the point
being
          
                  
            1:57:37
          
          
            that there's a lot of people
who are
          
                  
            1:57:39
          
          
            marginally qualified making
decisions
          
                  
            1:57:41
          
          
            about what is right for you to
see or
          
                  
            1:57:44
          
          
            not it's certainly not any
smart is no
          
                  
            1:57:48
          
          
            I'll go around doing it for you
          
                  
            1:57:53
          
          
            all right well I accept looking
for my
          
                  
            1:57:56
          
          
            off-the-grid thing I got
nothing oh
          
                  
            1:57:58
          
          
            great
          
                  
            1:57:59
          
          
            so we can go to listening to
Steve
          
                  
            1:58:02
          
          
            Hilton the tech oh no no then I
can I
          
                  
            1:58:05
          
          
            can do something else for you
before you
          
                  
            1:58:07
          
          
            go I do want to hear the Steve
Hilton
          
                  
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            thing I know you're all you
know Gitty
          
                  
            1:58:11
          
          
            about it I'm all jacked up
about it but
          
                  
            1:58:13
          
          
            there's something else going on
do you
          
                  
            1:58:15
          
          
            remember when we talked about
Google's
          
                  
            1:58:18
          
          
            sidewalk project for Seattle
this is the
          
                  
            1:58:22
          
          
            project where you have a
replicant and
          
                  
            1:58:25
          
          
            they build a whole profile
about you and
          
                  
            1:58:29
          
          
            where you stopped and so they
have
          
                  
            1:58:31
          
          
            everyone thought it was creepy
when we
          
                  
            1:58:32
          
          
            played it they build us still
have the
          
                  
            1:58:35
          
          
            old clip no I'm sure I have it
somewhere
          
                  
            1:58:38
          
          
            yeah let me see yeah it'll
creep people
          
                  
            1:58:40
          
          
            out again okay well you want to
play the
          
                  
            1:58:43
          
          
            whole thing but we'll play a
little bit
          
                  
            1:58:45
          
          
            here we go
          
                  
            1:58:46
          
          
            replica is made up of two parts
a
          
                  
            1:58:49
          
          
            replica activity table a
database
          
                  
            1:58:51
          
          
            representing all the trips and
          
                  
            1:58:53
          
          
            activities so this is the smart
city and
          
                  
            1:58:55
          
          
            it's not just in Seattle but
this this
          
                  
            1:58:57
          
          
            particular older clip is about
Seattle
          
                  
            1:58:59
          
          
            and the smart city this this
Google
          
                  
            1:59:02
          
          
            project it has sensors and
monitors
          
                  
            1:59:04
          
          
            everywhere in the streetlamps
you know I
          
                  
            1:59:07
          
          
            guess it was a dish in Toronto
I believe
          
                  
            1:59:09
          
          
            yesterday on toe is my next
clip but we
          
                  
            1:59:11
          
          
            start with the with the Seattle
and
          
                  
            1:59:13
          
          
            here's the creep they're gonna
bring on
          
                  
            1:59:15
          
          
            your life
          
                  
            1:59:16
          
          
            right people in an area and
explore an
          
                  
            1:59:18
          
          
            easy-to-use interface for
querying the
          
                  
            1:59:21
          
          
            data and creating maps and
charts first
          
                  
            1:59:24
          
          
            let's look at how a replica
activity
          
                  
            1:59:26
          
          
            table is created we use cell
phone
          
                  
            1:59:29
          
          
            location data covering a small
          
                  
            1:59:30
          
          
            percentage of the population to
learn
          
                  
            1:59:33
          
          
            about travel patterns and
create a
          
                  
            1:59:35
          
          
            travel behavior model basically
a set of
          
                  
            1:59:38
          
          
            rules that represent how a
person makes
          
                  
            1:59:40
          
          
            choices on where when why and
how to
          
                  
            1:59:43
          
          
            travel the location data is
collected by
          
                  
            1:59:46
          
          
            third party mobile apps with all
          
                  
            1:59:48
          
          
            identifying information like
names and
          
                  
            1:59:50
          
          
            phone numbers removed so
shortly we use
          
                  
            1:59:53
          
          
            aggregate census information
and other
          
                  
            1:59:56
          
          
            sources to create what planners
call a
          
                  
            1:59:58
          
          
            synthetic population this is a
virtual
          
                  
            2:00:01
          
          
            population that is statistically
          
                  
            2:00:02
          
          
            representative of the real
population
          
                  
            2:00:04
          
          
            you remember all this
          
                  
            2:00:07
          
          
            yes SimCity exactly so creepy
obviously
          
                  
            2:00:14
          
          
            and there's some talk in there
about oh
          
                  
            2:00:16
          
          
            yeah it'll just be anonymized
data and
          
                  
            2:00:18
          
          
            we won't know anything don't
worry about
          
                  
            2:00:20
          
          
            that big news out of Toronto
where they
          
                  
            2:00:23
          
          
            are planning and the late
planning
          
                  
            2:00:26
          
          
            stages of exactly the same
project
          
                  
            2:00:29
          
          
            the Toronto sidewalk project
from
          
                  
            2:00:33
          
          
            sidewalk labs which is 100%
owned by
          
                  
            2:00:36
          
          
            Google here's the news why did
you
          
                  
            2:00:38
          
          
            decide to resign this this is
the
          
                  
            2:00:41
          
          
            privacy expert who was brought
on to the
          
                  
            2:00:43
          
          
            project her name is Anne kabuki
and I
          
                  
            2:00:46
          
          
            think and she quit she stood up
and quit
          
                  
            2:00:50
          
          
            the other day I was hired by
sidewalk
          
                  
            2:00:52
          
          
            labs to embed privacy by design
into all
          
                  
            2:00:56
          
          
            of the smart city operations I
developed
          
                  
            2:00:58
          
          
            privacy by design years ago
it's a
          
                  
            2:01:00
          
          
            framework of proactively
embedding much
          
                  
            2:01:02
          
          
            needed privacy protective
measures into
          
                  
            2:01:05
          
          
            the design of the smart city now
          
                  
            2:01:07
          
          
            normally that would involve
obtaining
          
                  
            2:01:09
          
          
            the positive consent of the
residents of
          
                  
            2:01:12
          
          
            the city but we know that's not
possible
          
                  
            2:01:14
          
          
            here because the data will be
collected
          
                  
            2:01:17
          
          
            automatically by sensors and
other
          
                  
            2:01:19
          
          
            technologies so the opportunity
for
          
                  
            2:01:22
          
          
            consent doesn't exist so what
do we do
          
                  
            2:01:24
          
          
            about that my comment was you
must be
          
                  
            2:01:27
          
          
            identify all the personally
identifiable
          
                  
            2:01:29
          
          
            information at source meaning
at the
          
                  
            2:01:32
          
          
            time it's collected by the
sensor you D
          
                  
            2:01:35
          
          
            identify it right then and
there using
          
                  
            2:01:37
          
          
            very strong D identification
protocols
          
                  
            2:01:40
          
          
            that will print resist
re-identification
          
                  
            2:01:42
          
          
            attacks that's essential and
sidewalk
          
                  
            2:01:45
          
          
            Labs has committed to that but
recently
          
                  
            2:01:48
          
          
            on on Thursday at the meeting
they
          
                  
            2:01:51
          
          
            indicated to Waterfront Toronto
that
          
                  
            2:01:53
          
          
            they want to create this new
Civic Data
          
                  
            2:01:55
          
          
            trust which is great a number
of bodies
          
                  
            2:01:57
          
          
            will participate and make
decisions
          
                  
            2:01:59
          
          
            relating to the use of the data
but that
          
                  
            2:02:02
          
          
            they could only encourage the D
          
                  
            2:02:05
          
          
            identification of data not make
it
          
                  
            2:02:08
          
          
            mandatory and when I heard that
that's
          
                  
            2:02:10
          
          
            when I knew I had to resign you
can't
          
                  
            2:02:13
          
          
            the Civic data trust this is
how they're
          
                  
            2:02:18
          
          
            gonna do it as they say well
you know we
          
                  
            2:02:22
          
          
            we think it should be
anonymized but we
          
                  
            2:02:25
          
          
            feel it's important we put it
into the
          
                  
            2:02:27
          
          
            Civic data trust which is what
all these
          
                  
            2:02:29
          
          
            cities want these cities don't
just want
          
                  
            2:02:30
          
          
            Google to have all the
information they
          
                  
            2:02:33
          
          
            want the information so what
I'm hearing
          
                  
            2:02:36
          
          
            this privacy lady saying is
that it's
          
                  
            2:02:40
          
          
            really I think it's really not
even
          
                  
            2:02:42
          
          
            Google who's evil in this case
I think
          
                  
            2:02:44
          
          
            it's the city itself they want
this data
          
                  
            2:02:47
          
          
            they get the opportunity sure
yeah you
          
                  
            2:02:50
          
          
            need this data vault so that's
what we
          
                  
            2:02:53
          
          
            can do I know but everything
where
          
                  
            2:02:55
          
          
            they're walking how do they
identify
          
                  
            2:02:56
          
          
            somebody walking down the
street your
          
                  
            2:02:59
          
          
            phone your father would they
identify me
          
                  
            2:03:03
          
          
            facial recognition there's
gonna be all
          
                  
            2:03:05
          
          
            all of it's gonna be all over
the plaza
          
                  
            2:03:07
          
          
            you don't need the phone
          
                  
            2:03:08
          
          
            no but phone is is great oh
yeah I
          
                  
            2:03:11
          
          
            should mention the the
reviewers for the
          
                  
            2:03:14
          
          
            search engine they also see
what other
          
                  
            2:03:19
          
          
            apps you have on your phone
          
                  
            2:03:22
          
          
            and the their interface shows
you where
          
                  
            2:03:25
          
          
            you are when you ask the
question it'll
          
                  
            2:03:27
          
          
            say car living room bedroom
they didn't
          
                  
            2:03:30
          
          
            have a map of your house life
is great
          
                  
            2:03:39
          
          
            get that shit out of your house
get it
          
                  
            2:03:41
          
          
            out of your house now
          
                  
            2:03:44
          
          
            before you know what it's all
gonna be
          
                  
            2:03:46
          
          
            in a civic data vault nobody
listens to
          
                  
            2:03:49
          
          
            you of course not
          
                  
            2:03:51
          
          
            they just think I'm the old
white guy
          
                  
            2:03:54
          
          
            with the we are crackpot
there's an
          
                  
            2:03:56
          
          
            antique iPhone what is that
thing what
          
                  
            2:04:00
          
          
            is that thing damn it
          
                  
            2:04:01
          
          
            you crazy old coot
          
                  
            2:04:04
          
          
            hey anything happened with
Steve Hilton
          
                  
            2:04:08
          
          
            yeah he got on there one of the
Fox
          
                  
            2:04:11
          
          
            shows like it goes to clip I
have is of
          
                  
            2:04:14
          
          
            them cutting him off but I'm
not got
          
                  
            2:04:17
          
          
            least cutting Murray off but
he's on the
          
                  
            2:04:20
          
          
            show with just some
straightforward
          
                  
            2:04:23
          
          
            stuff I thought it was just
reasonable
          
                  
            2:04:24
          
          
            but it's funny how you know you
can say
          
                  
            2:04:29
          
          
            something like well hunter
Biden who has
          
                  
            2:04:33
          
          
            no experience in this industry
this and
          
                  
            2:04:35
          
          
            that and he took a $50,000 a
month board
          
                  
            2:04:39
          
          
            member I mean beginning paid
$50,000 a
          
                  
            2:04:42
          
          
            month to be on a board is
ludicrous to
          
                  
            2:04:44
          
          
            begin with Elissa throwing
money away or
          
                  
            2:04:46
          
          
            some scheme I mean that's I
mean I've
          
                  
            2:04:49
          
          
            never heard of those amounts
that any
          
                  
            2:04:51
          
          
            board that I've ever interacted
with I
          
                  
            2:04:54
          
          
            haven't either that's $1,000 a
month
          
                  
            2:04:56
          
          
            they're being on a board
          
                  
            2:04:57
          
          
            I mean shares you they might get
          
                  
            2:04:59
          
          
            warrants perhaps yeah well
there was
          
                  
            2:05:01
          
          
            none of that and he was sitting
in a cup
          
                  
            2:05:04
          
          
            in the country and the UK in
Ukraine
          
                  
            2:05:06
          
          
            where nobody's where they speak
          
                  
            2:05:08
          
          
            Ukrainian you don't speak
Ukrainian you
          
                  
            2:05:10
          
          
            know nothing about the business
but
          
                  
            2:05:11
          
          
            you're on the board somehow and
this
          
                  
            2:05:13
          
          
            isn't apparently suspicious his
proof of
          
                  
            2:05:17
          
          
            nothing oh nothing Boyka so
that's what
          
                  
            2:05:21
          
          
            Marie harf says not Marie harf
she is
          
                  
            2:05:25
          
          
            she was the spokes hole for the
State
          
                  
            2:05:29
          
          
            Department for a while yes no
bombs oh
          
                  
            2:05:32
          
          
            and she's also the Bandcamp
girl does
          
                  
            2:05:33
          
          
            she not
          
                  
            2:05:36
          
          
            think maybe Oh in this one time
at band
          
                  
            2:05:39
          
          
            camp I stuck a flute in my
pussy yeah I
          
                  
            2:05:41
          
          
            think that's her
          
                  
            2:05:42
          
          
            that's my being that this or
but here we
          
                  
            2:05:44
          
          
            go and this is just a casual
          
                  
            2:05:45
          
          
            conversation one of the Fox
shows you
          
                  
            2:05:48
          
          
            know where they're all sitting
around
          
                  
            2:05:49
          
          
            just yakking and she takes
great offense
          
                  
            2:05:53
          
          
            and lashes do you hear laughing
a lot in
          
                  
            2:05:55
          
          
            the background when every time
he makes
          
                  
            2:05:57
          
          
            some assertion and I just found
the
          
                  
            2:06:00
          
          
            whole thing to be offensive
let's use
          
                  
            2:06:02
          
          
            their tongue which is
resistance let's
          
                  
            2:06:05
          
          
            remember that about a year ago
someone
          
                  
            2:06:08
          
          
            wrote an anonymous op-ed saying
there's
          
                  
            2:06:10
          
          
            an organized resistance within
the
          
                  
            2:06:12
          
          
            bureaucracy to President Trump
we are
          
                  
            2:06:14
          
          
            fighting against him that
person on top
          
                  
            2:06:17
          
          
            of all these transcripts their
book is
          
                  
            2:06:18
          
          
            coming out in a couple of weeks
these
          
                  
            2:06:20
          
          
            people in the bureaucracy hate
President
          
                  
            2:06:23
          
          
            Trump they can't believe he's
the
          
                  
            2:06:25
          
          
            president they've been working
against
          
                  
            2:06:27
          
          
            him from day one you combine
that with
          
                  
            2:06:29
          
          
            the Democrats trying to
overturn the
          
                  
            2:06:31
          
          
            election from day one and
that's what
          
                  
            2:06:33
          
          
            you have now that's why we
shouldn't
          
                  
            2:06:34
          
          
            take it seriously and further
these
          
                  
            2:06:36
          
          
            people inside the bureaucracy
the other
          
                  
            2:06:38
          
          
            thing they're doing is
protecting Joe
          
                  
            2:06:40
          
          
            Biden because the only real
corruption
          
                  
            2:06:42
          
          
            allegation here is against Joe
Baier he
          
                  
            2:06:45
          
          
            was in charge of Ukraine policy
he
          
                  
            2:06:47
          
          
            supervised billions of dollars
of aid
          
                  
            2:06:49
          
          
            that went from the US taxpayer
to
          
                  
            2:06:51
          
          
            Ukraine much of that went to
BIR yzma a
          
                  
            2:06:54
          
          
            gas company that was paying his
son how
          
                  
            2:06:57
          
          
            much money did Joe Biden
channel to his
          
                  
            2:06:59
          
          
            son's business that's the
corruption
          
                  
            2:07:02
          
          
            allegation no one wants to
explore that
          
                  
            2:07:04
          
          
            these people are protecting
against that
          
                  
            2:07:06
          
          
            there's a further element of
corruption
          
                  
            2:07:08
          
          
            that needs to be looked into
and again
          
                  
            2:07:09
          
          
            something that Ukraine should
          
                  
            2:07:11
          
          
            investigate which is John
Kerry's
          
                  
            2:07:13
          
          
            corruption he was Secretary of
State at
          
                  
            2:07:15
          
          
            the time he was also involved in
          
                  
            2:07:17
          
          
            channeling money to Ukraine his
former
          
                  
            2:07:19
          
          
            chief of staff was hired by a
Purisima
          
                  
            2:07:23
          
          
            soon after hunter Biden went on
the
          
                  
            2:07:25
          
          
            board
          
                  
            2:07:26
          
          
            they hired John Kerry's former
chief of
          
                  
            2:07:29
          
          
            staff while he was Secretary of
State
          
                  
            2:07:30
          
          
            paid him money from Burr yzma
could have
          
                  
            2:07:33
          
          
            come from the US taxpayer that
money is
          
                  
            2:07:35
          
          
            circled back to Democratic
senators who
          
                  
            2:07:37
          
          
            then write to the
administration calling
          
                  
            2:07:39
          
          
            for more money to be sent to
Burr yzma
          
                  
            2:07:42
          
          
            all of that needs to be
investigated
          
                  
            2:07:43
          
          
            John Kerry's evidence that
anything you
          
                  
            2:07:46
          
          
            bytes that I just I know
          
                  
            2:07:49
          
          
            Department you're covering up
the
          
                  
            2:07:51
          
          
            corruption to it defending are
you
          
                  
            2:07:53
          
          
            that's billions of you talking
about the
          
                  
            2:07:58
          
          
            news please don't accuse me of
covering
          
                  
            2:08:00
          
          
            something up you want because
we're
          
                  
            2:08:01
          
          
            saying there's no effort it's
not just
          
                  
            2:08:02
          
          
            fair to political banker and
why'd they
          
                  
            2:08:05
          
          
            just cut them off right there
boom done
          
                  
            2:08:07
          
          
            yeah boom done
          
                  
            2:08:11
          
          
            and that's what the thing is
there's no
          
                  
            2:08:13
          
          
            evidence
          
                  
            2:08:15
          
          
            there's no evidence how can you
say
          
                  
            2:08:17
          
          
            there's okay there's no I don't
know
          
                  
            2:08:19
          
          
            what evidence are looking for
but it
          
                  
            2:08:21
          
          
            just seems a little fishy that
some guys
          
                  
            2:08:24
          
          
            making fifty thousand dollars a
month to
          
                  
            2:08:27
          
          
            attend a couple of board
meetings of her
          
                  
            2:08:29
          
          
            companies they knows nothing
about
          
                  
            2:08:31
          
          
            nobody thinks that's even worth
looking
          
                  
            2:08:33
          
          
            at it's beyond me I'd like to
see an
          
                  
            2:08:36
          
          
            analysis of what board members
get paid
          
                  
            2:08:40
          
          
            now I think I know the answer
but I
          
                  
            2:08:42
          
          
            think that would be an
interesting
          
                  
            2:08:43
          
          
            analysis someone could do but
the State
          
                  
            2:08:46
          
          
            Department is this is what I've
come to
          
                  
            2:08:48
          
          
            learn really it's such a
machine and the
          
                  
            2:08:51
          
          
            people inside the State
Department it
          
                  
            2:08:53
          
          
            must be tens of thousands of
people who
          
                  
            2:08:56
          
          
            work inside that machine you
know and
          
                  
            2:08:59
          
          
            they have been there for several
          
                  
            2:09:00
          
          
            administrations many of them
they really
          
                  
            2:09:03
          
          
            believe that they're there the
          
                  
            2:09:06
          
          
            government they do stuff it's
they do
          
                  
            2:09:08
          
          
            what they're what they really
kind of
          
                  
            2:09:10
          
          
            want to do and this is a deep
state with
          
                  
            2:09:14
          
          
            yes and this has no spook
agency that
          
                  
            2:09:17
          
          
            nobody knows well how many
people are in
          
                  
            2:09:18
          
          
            the spook agency the State
Department's
          
                  
            2:09:21
          
          
            crazy the network but and
nobody can
          
                  
            2:09:24
          
          
            tell you how many are in it
because it's
          
                  
            2:09:25
          
          
            a big secret but what they but
what I'm
          
                  
            2:09:28
          
          
            that's what's so puzzling is
that they
          
                  
            2:09:31
          
          
            are telling the through the
media
          
                  
            2:09:33
          
          
            actually the media is telling
us this I
          
                  
            2:09:35
          
          
            got to get some clips of this
like it's
          
                  
            2:09:36
          
          
            ridiculous and how would you
why would
          
                  
            2:09:39
          
          
            you fire an ambassador these
are the
          
                  
            2:09:41
          
          
            people who are doing the great
work it's
          
                  
            2:09:43
          
          
            like no ambassadors are you know
          
                  
            2:09:45
          
          
            political appointees I mean it
was the
          
                  
            2:09:48
          
          
            Ambassador to Japan isn't it
still the
          
                  
            2:09:50
          
          
            kennedy kennedy girl come on
come on
          
                  
            2:09:53
          
          
            until she's been kissing powder
got her
          
                  
            2:09:56
          
          
            when Trump got in office he
said all the
          
                  
            2:09:57
          
          
            ambassadors everybody has to
quit yeah
          
                  
            2:09:59
          
          
            and everybody quit pretty much
except
          
                  
            2:10:03
          
          
            for that one woman to the to
Ukraine why
          
                  
            2:10:05
          
          
            didn't she quit this is the
story that
          
                  
            2:10:07
          
          
            needs also and she needs to be
grilled
          
                  
            2:10:09
          
          
            about this why does she hang
around she
          
                  
            2:10:13
          
          
            just said I'm staying and they
had to
          
                  
            2:10:15
          
          
            finally get her out of there
but why was
          
                  
            2:10:17
          
          
            she staying what was she there
to burn
          
                  
            2:10:19
          
          
            papers at the Embassy I mean
what was
          
                  
            2:10:21
          
          
            she staying there for the whole
thing
          
                  
            2:10:23
          
          
            makes no sense Brit Brit Hume
who is the
          
                  
            2:10:28
          
          
            old coot there on Fox I I think
he's
          
                  
            2:10:30
          
          
            pretty fair oh he's balanced
when he's
          
                  
            2:10:33
          
          
            not drinking so he's drinking
it just
          
                  
            2:10:37
          
          
            looks like it looks like a guy
who
          
                  
            2:10:38
          
          
            drinks he was tweeting about
Lieutenant
          
                  
            2:10:42
          
          
            Colonel Alexander vind Minh
this is uh
          
                  
            2:10:46
          
          
            you know this is the the guy
that is
          
                  
            2:10:48
          
          
            gonna sink Trump apparently and
he said
          
                  
            2:10:50
          
          
            he was deeply troubled this
veeneman guy
          
                  
            2:10:53
          
          
            was deeply troubled by what he
believed
          
                  
            2:10:56
          
          
            were President Donald Trump's
attempts
          
                  
            2:10:58
          
          
            to subvert u.s. foreign policy
by you
          
                  
            2:11:05
          
          
            know firing the the ambassador
          
                  
            2:11:10
          
          
            it's the whole point that Brit
Hume is
          
                  
            2:11:12
          
          
            making is the president doesn't
subvert
          
                  
            2:11:15
          
          
            foreign policy I think the
Constitution
          
                  
            2:11:18
          
          
            actually states that he's the
author of
          
                  
            2:11:20
          
          
            foreign policy yeah he is
foreign policy
          
                  
            2:11:24
          
          
            and that is you know want to
talk about
          
                  
            2:11:26
          
          
            Constitution which seems to be
some
          
                  
            2:11:28
          
          
            people pick up a lot and the
president
          
                  
            2:11:31
          
          
            determines the foreign policy
you have
          
                  
            2:11:33
          
          
            nothing to do with it
          
                  
            2:11:35
          
          
            but they're telling the
American people
          
                  
            2:11:37
          
          
            that Trump is nuts because he's
firing
          
                  
            2:11:39
          
          
            these Smarties who run the show
and he's
          
                  
            2:11:45
          
          
            subverting our foreign policy
yeah he's
          
                  
            2:11:48
          
          
            subverting their foreign policy
for sure
          
                  
            2:11:51
          
          
            gibbous not their policy to
have exactly
          
                  
            2:11:55
          
          
            exactly the state department
does not
          
                  
            2:11:59
          
          
            create foreign policy in the
face of a
          
                  
            2:12:03
          
          
            president for example who might
be a
          
                  
            2:12:05
          
          
            peacenik who wants to get us
out of a
          
                  
            2:12:07
          
          
            war right which he promised to
do and so
          
                  
            2:12:11
          
          
            the public votes him in to get
us out of
          
                  
            2:12:13
          
          
            these wars and the State
Department all
          
                  
            2:12:15
          
          
            of a sudden takes it upon
itself to like
          
                  
            2:12:17
          
          
            Wow well this is no good we
want to be
          
                  
            2:12:20
          
          
            in these wars what's that guy
doing stop
          
                  
            2:12:24
          
          
            mucking around in our business
over here
          
                  
            2:12:26
          
          
            exactly
          
                  
            2:12:28
          
          
            I know it's one of the podcast
took the
          
                  
            2:12:31
          
          
            clip that you developed on
Brennan on
          
                  
            2:12:34
          
          
            c-span
          
                  
            2:12:34
          
          
            yeah and used it with full
credit to us
          
                  
            2:12:38
          
          
            including a shot a screenshot
of our oh
          
                  
            2:12:40
          
          
            really over show art which is
nice the
          
                  
            2:12:43
          
          
            way they did it they just
mentioned this
          
                  
            2:12:45
          
          
            thing we master the the Brennan
you're
          
                  
            2:12:48
          
          
            guilty thing
          
                  
            2:12:49
          
          
            no the Brennan no no not that
at all
          
                  
            2:12:52
          
          
            the Brennan we're the deep
stage we
          
                  
            2:12:56
          
          
            should do and we run in the
show yeah
          
                  
            2:12:59
          
          
            that was that you included you
          
                  
            2:13:01
          
          
            complaining that that the CIA
is not
          
                  
            2:13:04
          
          
            supposed to have any domestic
bonsai yes
          
                  
            2:13:06
          
          
            there's this clip you have to
agree that
          
                  
            2:13:09
          
          
            not totally the impeachment
inquiry is
          
                  
            2:13:11
          
          
            underway sparked by a complaint
from
          
                  
            2:13:14
          
          
            someone within the individual
needs the
          
                  
            2:13:18
          
          
            president's concern and often
use term
          
                  
            2:13:21
          
          
            about a deep state being there
to take
          
                  
            2:13:24
          
          
            you know thank God for the deep
state
          
                  
            2:13:28
          
          
            that was actually mcLaughlin
but then
          
                  
            2:13:30
          
          
            Brennan does chime in later
          
                  
            2:13:32
          
          
            he's also former CIA chief yeah
well in
          
                  
            2:13:38
          
          
            page
          
                  
            2:13:40
          
          
            I thought the the news of the
day for me
          
                  
            2:13:43
          
          
            was and not for the reasons
people might
          
                  
            2:13:45
          
          
            think was this amy robach
saying the
          
                  
            2:13:48
          
          
            project Veritas got ahold of
about
          
                  
            2:13:51
          
          
            Epstein this pot Mike although
wasn't
          
                  
            2:13:54
          
          
            really a hot mic I mean she did
she not
          
                  
            2:13:56
          
          
            know there was a camera on her
face it
          
                  
            2:13:58
          
          
            looks like she was in kind of a
camera I
          
                  
            2:14:00
          
          
            think the way I perceived it
yeah they
          
                  
            2:14:04
          
          
            were just kind of as some
explanation
          
                  
            2:14:05
          
          
            she was definitely a hot mic
but I don't
          
                  
            2:14:07
          
          
            know that she knew it was on or
that it
          
                  
            2:14:09
          
          
            was recording and right yes yes
but who
          
                  
            2:14:15
          
          
            then snuck it out somehow
          
                  
            2:14:17
          
          
            but she I thought was just
having a
          
                  
            2:14:20
          
          
            casual conversation with one of
her
          
                  
            2:14:21
          
          
            newer producers who was asking
about
          
                  
            2:14:24
          
          
            this and they wanted today were
doing it
          
                  
            2:14:26
          
          
            back if I do it would be nice
that we
          
                  
            2:14:27
          
          
            had the other side of the
conversation
          
                  
            2:14:28
          
          
            but we didn't and I thought it
was just
          
                  
            2:14:33
          
          
            one of those things that
happens all the
          
                  
            2:14:34
          
          
            time in these studios that's
how they
          
                  
            2:14:35
          
          
            caught Trump coming out of the
bus
          
                  
            2:14:37
          
          
            talking about grabbing by the
pussy
          
                  
            2:14:39
          
          
            right there's somebody in the
control
          
                  
            2:14:41
          
          
            room there's people that are in
the
          
                  
            2:14:43
          
          
            engineers the type of sound
engineers
          
                  
            2:14:45
          
          
            that we have are not too far
away from
          
                  
            2:14:49
          
          
            being there oh the microphone
nerd they
          
                  
            2:14:52
          
          
            they're of a certain ilk that
like to
          
                  
            2:14:55
          
          
            collect things dude the guy at
MTV Rick
          
                  
            2:14:59
          
          
            Kalman who did audio and I was
hanging
          
                  
            2:15:02
          
          
            out in the audio booth say do
ya i did i
          
                  
            2:15:04
          
          
            do did you because an mtv story
here
          
                  
            2:15:06
          
          
            comes empty he dude that makes
sense
          
                  
            2:15:09
          
          
            dude and he had a whole
collection of
          
                  
            2:15:13
          
          
            guests going to the bathroom it
was
          
                  
            2:15:15
          
          
            pretty funny because he'd my
c'mon he'd
          
                  
            2:15:20
          
          
            Michael he had everybody yeah
you know
          
                  
            2:15:23
          
          
            passing wind all kindest custom
not a
          
                  
            2:15:27
          
          
            lot of people I don't know I
don't know
          
                  
            2:15:29
          
          
            where it is I wish I had them
labeled
          
                  
            2:15:32
          
          
            get them labeled and everything
          
                  
            2:15:34
          
          
            I'd love to collect outtakes -
oh yeah
          
                  
            2:15:38
          
          
            yeah all the app ties man so I
mean
          
                  
            2:15:41
          
          
            that's where the thing would be
sigh
          
                  
            2:15:43
          
          
            stop the hammering well that
was on set
          
                  
            2:15:46
          
          
            I mean there was somebody
recorded it
          
                  
            2:15:49
          
          
            and kept it and they saved it
and it was
          
                  
            2:15:51
          
          
            a part of a collection
          
                  
            2:15:52
          
          
            so it's like Bill O'Reilly
going nuts
          
                  
            2:15:54
          
          
            we'll do it same thing these
guys are
          
                  
            2:15:59
          
          
            dangerous design sound
engineers oh man
          
                  
            2:16:03
          
          
            where's that O'Reilly cliff
that is too
          
                  
            2:16:06
          
          
            funny guys the control poor not
to be
          
                  
            2:16:09
          
          
            trusted
          
                  
            2:16:12
          
          
            damn it anyway so they they get
this
          
                  
            2:16:17
          
          
            woman and here's the thing that
bothers
          
                  
            2:16:18
          
          
            me about the clip she is angry
not
          
                  
            2:16:23
          
          
            because three years ago she had
all the
          
                  
            2:16:27
          
          
            goods on Epstein and maybe
could have
          
                  
            2:16:29
          
          
            saved other women from abuse no
no no
          
                  
            2:16:32
          
          
            she's angry because they
wouldn't let
          
                  
            2:16:35
          
          
            her broadcast it I've had the
story for
          
                  
            2:16:37
          
          
            three years I've had this
interview with
          
                  
            2:16:39
          
          
            Virginia Roberts we would not
put it on
          
                  
            2:16:41
          
          
            the air first of all I was told
who's
          
                  
            2:16:43
          
          
            Jeffrey Epstein no one knows
who that is
          
                  
            2:16:45
          
          
            this is a stupid story then the
palace
          
                  
            2:16:47
          
          
            found out that we had her whole
          
                  
            2:16:50
          
          
            allegations about Prince Andrew
and
          
                  
            2:16:52
          
          
            threatened us a million
different ways
          
                  
            2:16:54
          
          
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            2:16:55
          
          
            we were so afraid we wouldn't
be able to
          
                  
            2:16:57
          
          
            interview Kate there's will
think oh
          
                  
            2:16:59
          
          
            that we think that also quashed
the
          
                  
            2:17:01
          
          
            story and then and then Alan
Dershowitz
          
                  
            2:17:05
          
          
            was also implicated in because
of the
          
                  
            2:17:07
          
          
            plane so she told me everything
she had
          
                  
            2:17:09
          
          
            pictures she had everything she
was in
          
                  
            2:17:11
          
          
            hiding for 12 years we
convinced her to
          
                  
            2:17:13
          
          
            come out we convinced her to
talk to us
          
                  
            2:17:15
          
          
            it was unbelievable what we had
Clint
          
                  
            2:17:18
          
          
            and we had everything
          
                  
            2:17:21
          
          
            I tried for three years to get
it on to
          
                  
            2:17:24
          
          
            no avail and now it's all
coming out and
          
                  
            2:17:26
          
          
            it's like these new relevant
revelations
          
                  
            2:17:28
          
          
            and I freaking had all of it I
I'm so
          
                  
            2:17:31
          
          
            pissed right now like every day
I get
          
                  
            2:17:33
          
          
            more and more pissed cuz I'm
just like
          
                  
            2:17:35
          
          
            oh my god we it wasn't what we
had was
          
                  
            2:17:38
          
          
            unreal other women backing up
Hey yep
          
                  
            2:17:43
          
          
            right Edwards the Attorney
three years
          
                  
            2:17:45
          
          
            ago saying like on like we
there will
          
                  
            2:17:48
          
          
            come a day but we will realize
Jeffrey
          
                  
            2:17:50
          
          
            Epstein was the most prolific
pedophile
          
                  
            2:17:51
          
          
            this country has ever known
years ago I
          
                  
            2:17:55
          
          
            had it all I had it all I could
have
          
                  
            2:17:57
          
          
            been a pulitzer contender damn
it I had
          
                  
            2:18:00
          
          
            it all I had the award winning
          
                  
            2:18:01
          
          
            journalism I had the interviews
very
          
                  
            2:18:05
          
          
            very very very disappointing I
am NOT on
          
                  
            2:18:10
          
          
            your side on this oh you think
that she
          
                  
            2:18:12
          
          
            means it differently no she
means
          
                  
            2:18:15
          
          
            exactly what she said and I
don't have a
          
                  
            2:18:17
          
          
            problem with that that you
don't get to
          
                  
            2:18:19
          
          
            that position and especially in
the
          
                  
            2:18:21
          
          
            network without having that
kind of an
          
                  
            2:18:24
          
          
            attitude which was I had the
scoop is
          
                  
            2:18:26
          
          
            very common in journalism and
it and to
          
                  
            2:18:29
          
          
            think it's not is is not I'm
not gonna
          
                  
            2:18:31
          
          
            say as naive but it's not right
it's I
          
                  
            2:18:35
          
          
            had the scoop they screwed me
out of it
          
                  
            2:18:39
          
          
            I wasn't gonna pull like
what's-his-name
          
                  
            2:18:41
          
          
            you know the Sinatra kid
          
                  
            2:18:44
          
          
            Ronen that broke the story
Ronan Farrow
          
                  
            2:18:48
          
          
            Farrow he went and quit his
comp quit
          
                  
            2:18:51
          
          
            goes to another company and you
found
          
                  
            2:18:53
          
          
            somebody who take the story all
the way
          
                  
            2:18:55
          
          
            here's a little more of the
idealist he
          
                  
            2:18:58
          
          
            wasn't gonna put up with
getting his
          
                  
            2:18:59
          
          
            scoops buried so he went out
and sold
          
                  
            2:19:02
          
          
            that she doesn't have that
didn't have
          
                  
            2:19:04
          
          
            that opportunity she was too
she's too
          
                  
            2:19:07
          
          
            high up to do that she's that
she's at
          
                  
            2:19:09
          
          
            the high levels of the Dutchman
oh she
          
                  
            2:19:11
          
          
            is she's not a slouch know
she's bigshot
          
                  
            2:19:14
          
          
            and so she's worked about one
thing and
          
                  
            2:19:17
          
          
            one thing only she probably
thinks about
          
                  
            2:19:20
          
          
            what you were thinking about
but her
          
                  
            2:19:22
          
          
            real concern is that hey I'm I
am here
          
                  
            2:19:26
          
          
            for the money
          
                  
            2:19:27
          
          
            all right and I got screwed out
of a
          
                  
            2:19:29
          
          
            scoop that could have gotten me
an award
          
                  
            2:19:31
          
          
            and more money you're thinking
is
          
                  
            2:19:34
          
          
            proving my point
          
                  
            2:19:35
          
          
            I
          
                  
            2:19:35
          
          
            she ate it no I'm not gonna say
I'm not
          
                  
            2:19:37
          
          
            proving your point is correct
but I
          
                  
            2:19:39
          
          
            think you're being adamant
about being
          
                  
            2:19:41
          
          
            worked about it or being nasty
to hurt I
          
                  
            2:19:43
          
          
            think is mistaken she this is
what she
          
                  
            2:19:46
          
          
            does and she does a great job
of it I
          
                  
            2:19:47
          
          
            think she's one of the best of
these
          
                  
            2:19:49
          
          
            interviewers out there and she
could go
          
                  
            2:19:51
          
          
            she'll be eventually be really
big she's
          
                  
            2:19:54
          
          
            kind of a I guess she's where
she from
          
                  
            2:19:57
          
          
            George or someplace you moved
around the
          
                  
            2:19:59
          
          
            country quite a bit I looked
into her
          
                  
            2:20:02
          
          
            background and but I've always
liked her
          
                  
            2:20:04
          
          
            stuff
          
                  
            2:20:05
          
          
            well she's best she was the
scoop scoop
          
                  
            2:20:10
          
          
            scoop scoop is like a big deal
damn it
          
                  
            2:20:13
          
          
            well she made a statement after
the fact
          
                  
            2:20:16
          
          
            of course she was not let go or
is not
          
                  
            2:20:19
          
          
            pursuing interests outside of
the the
          
                  
            2:20:21
          
          
            company or wants to be with her
family
          
                  
            2:20:23
          
          
            no as a journalist as the
Epstein story
          
                  
            2:20:25
          
          
            continued to unfold last summer
I was
          
                  
            2:20:27
          
          
            caught in a private moment of
          
                  
            2:20:28
          
          
            frustration I was upset that an
          
                  
            2:20:31
          
          
            important interview had
conducted with
          
                  
            2:20:34
          
          
            Virginia Roberts didn't air
because we
          
                  
            2:20:36
          
          
            could not obtain sufficient
          
                  
            2:20:37
          
          
            corroborating evidence to meet
ABC's
          
                  
            2:20:40
          
          
            editorial standards about her
          
                  
            2:20:42
          
          
            allegations and this is what I
thought
          
                  
            2:20:44
          
          
            was interesting my comments
about Prince
          
                  
            2:20:46
          
          
            Andrew and her allegation that
she had
          
                  
            2:20:48
          
          
            seen Bill Clinton on Epstein's
private
          
                  
            2:20:51
          
          
            island were in reference to what
          
                  
            2:20:53
          
          
            Virginia Roberts said in that
interview
          
                  
            2:20:55
          
          
            in 25 2015 I was referencing her
          
                  
            2:20:58
          
          
            allegations someone made a
phone call
          
                  
            2:21:00
          
          
            someone got a nasty phone call
not what
          
                  
            2:21:03
          
          
            ABC News had verified through
our
          
                  
            2:21:05
          
          
            reporting the interview itself
while I
          
                  
            2:21:07
          
          
            was disappointed it didn't air
didn't
          
                  
            2:21:09
          
          
            meet our standards in the years
since no
          
                  
            2:21:12
          
          
            one ever told me or the team to
stop
          
                  
            2:21:13
          
          
            reporting on Jeffrey Epstein
and we have
          
                  
            2:21:15
          
          
            continued to aggressively
pursue this
          
                  
            2:21:17
          
          
            important story but wait the
best one is
          
                  
            2:21:20
          
          
            now ABC also released a
statement
          
                  
            2:21:22
          
          
            remember this was not good
enough for
          
                  
            2:21:26
          
          
            ABC's standards so they have a
media we
          
                  
            2:21:30
          
          
            see the memes that came out of
that
          
                  
            2:21:32
          
          
            concept so we go on so we have
a meeting
          
                  
            2:21:34
          
          
            what are we gonna do with this
I mean we
          
                  
            2:21:37
          
          
            got this real problem how do we
bury
          
                  
            2:21:39
          
          
            this shit what can we do oh I
know hear
          
                  
            2:21:42
          
          
            hear
          
                  
            2:21:42
          
          
            write this down here comes a
statement
          
                  
            2:21:44
          
          
            statement at the time not all
of our
          
                  
            2:21:48
          
          
            report
          
                  
            2:21:49
          
          
            our standards to air but we
have never
          
                  
            2:21:52
          
          
            stopped investigating the story
ever
          
                  
            2:21:54
          
          
            since we've had a team on this
          
                  
            2:21:56
          
          
            investigation and substantial
resources
          
                  
            2:21:58
          
          
            dedicated to it let me think
how I'm
          
                  
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            gonna bury oh yeah I know what
to do
          
                  
            2:22:03
          
          
            here we go lessons this work
has led to
          
                  
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            a two-hour documentary in a
six-part
          
                  
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            podcast that will air in the
new year
          
                  
            2:22:18
          
          
            alright I got a boss no problem
          
                  
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            there you go your important
reporting
          
                  
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            hey guess what we got two
pieces of news
          
                  
            2:22:26
          
          
            for you well you're gonna do
the story
          
                  
            2:22:29
          
          
            oh great it's gonna be a
podcast oh how
          
                  
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            do you think she feels now
          
                  
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            well she well she probably
feels after
          
                  
            2:22:40
          
          
            that they put a gun to her head
she
          
                  
            2:22:42
          
          
            might as well be in North
Korean with a
          
                  
            2:22:43
          
          
            gun to her head
          
                  
            2:22:45
          
          
            condemning America so she they
put a gun
          
                  
            2:22:48
          
          
            to her head at ABC and tell her
to write
          
                  
            2:22:50
          
          
            this well you know I what
didn't mean
          
                  
            2:22:52
          
          
            this I didn't mean that and I
only
          
                  
            2:22:54
          
          
            referenced Andrew cuz there's a
name
          
                  
            2:22:55
          
          
            that came to mind or whatever
that thing
          
                  
            2:22:57
          
          
            said it don't cry yes she has
to be more
          
                  
            2:23:00
          
          
            about that she will be she will
be
          
                  
            2:23:02
          
          
            shopping her talents no no I'm
serious
          
                  
            2:23:06
          
          
            yeah of course
          
                  
            2:23:09
          
          
            she's gonna think to herself
and she's
          
                  
            2:23:11
          
          
            got a good gig at ABC she's got
through
          
                  
            2:23:13
          
          
            she's on GMA she's got her own
little
          
                  
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            show she's got a whole bunch of
stuff
          
                  
            2:23:17
          
          
            going on she they give her some
plum
          
                  
            2:23:18
          
          
            plum interviews and she's gonna
be act
          
                  
            2:23:22
          
          
            about having to make those
comments
          
                  
            2:23:23
          
          
            because this she was caught off
caught
          
                  
            2:23:25
          
          
            off guard by somebody somebody
talking
          
                  
            2:23:31
          
          
            to the audio guy obviously it's
always
          
                  
            2:23:33
          
          
            the guy who asked her out or
wanted a
          
                  
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            date or something like the guy
that
          
                  
            2:23:45
          
          
            could show up thinking like a
control
          
                  
            2:23:47
          
          
            room guy the guy that control
him you
          
                  
            2:23:48
          
          
            know I always you know maybe
love-hate
          
                  
            2:23:51
          
          
            sir and then who knows but this
just
          
                  
            2:23:52
          
          
            decided to pull this thing out
of the
          
                  
            2:23:54
          
          
            blue and drop it on the public
good work
          
                  
            2:23:57
          
          
            get doctor like getting caught
you're
          
                  
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            gonna you're gonna throw shade
on me
          
                  
            2:24:00
          
          
            girl okay watch this it's
exactly how it
          
                  
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            goes no I've never heard any
stories
          
                  
            2:24:07
          
          
            about her on the set she might
be a not
          
                  
            2:24:10
          
          
            likable because it makes she
treats the
          
                  
            2:24:12
          
          
            crew poorly well she's your
beat now
          
                  
            2:24:14
          
          
            since she said she might be
dateable I
          
                  
            2:24:17
          
          
            think that's a great one what
do you
          
                  
            2:24:29
          
          
            think of her she might be
dateable
          
                  
            2:24:30
          
          
            mm-hmm yes that's and that's
how we talk
          
                  
            2:24:34
          
          
            in the control room just so
we're doing
          
                  
            2:24:35
          
          
            the control room this is not
that is the
          
                  
            2:24:40
          
          
            control room talk right there I
kid you
          
                  
            2:24:41
          
          
            not all right this will take us
into our
          
                  
            2:24:45
          
          
            break this is good because it
makes
          
                  
            2:24:46
          
          
            sense
          
                  
            2:24:47
          
          
            I guess Jack Dorsey's not going
to do
          
                  
            2:24:49
          
          
            anything
          
                  
            2:24:50
          
          
            use anymore so that everyone's
desperate
          
                  
            2:24:52
          
          
            to get something about it
something
          
                  
            2:24:54
          
          
            about Twitter so PBS gets ahold
of EV
          
                  
            2:24:58
          
          
            Williams Eva's not quite
trained you
          
                  
            2:25:01
          
          
            know the way the have had yes
I've had
          
                  
            2:25:05
          
          
            maybe he's a billionaire I
think he is
          
                  
            2:25:08
          
          
            he's done two lucky shots he's
the one
          
                  
            2:25:10
          
          
            who started blogger blogger I
got got
          
                  
            2:25:12
          
          
            bought and then he sold that to
Google
          
                  
            2:25:14
          
          
            and then he started even long
with four
          
                  
            2:25:17
          
          
            other guys or five other guys
they
          
                  
            2:25:18
          
          
            started Twitter well that was o
dó and
          
                  
            2:25:20
          
          
            then it became Twitter what yes
they've
          
                  
            2:25:25
          
          
            had this idea and they've kind
of caught
          
                  
            2:25:28
          
          
            on there people try to compete
with
          
                  
            2:25:30
          
          
            nothing did pounce was a good
example
          
                  
            2:25:32
          
          
            and they never could and they
somehow
          
                  
            2:25:35
          
          
            they when they went public he
walked
          
                  
            2:25:37
          
          
            away it's like two billion
dollars again
          
                  
            2:25:39
          
          
            and loads but he saw he's
always been
          
                  
            2:25:41
          
          
            kind of a Jewish kind of a kind
of a
          
                  
            2:25:45
          
          
            prick in my opinion I didn't
get that
          
                  
            2:25:48
          
          
            impression yeah he might be
known I got
          
                  
            2:25:50
          
          
            it free cuz he was on silicon
spin once
          
                  
            2:25:52
          
          
            he might be dateable he might be
          
                  
            2:25:55
          
          
            dateable he so he was asked
about you
          
                  
            2:25:59
          
          
            know how how it really works
and you
          
                  
            2:26:03
          
          
            know how the money's made he
was also
          
                  
            2:26:04
          
          
            pushing medium of course that's
his
          
                  
            2:26:06
          
          
            that's his his prized pet
project medium
          
                  
            2:26:08
          
          
            so he is kind of he's trying to
explain
          
                  
            2:26:12
          
          
            the difference we actually does
a good
          
                  
            2:26:13
          
          
            job of the advertising model
versus the
          
                  
            2:26:19
          
          
            subscription model and I
thought it was
          
                  
            2:26:21
          
          
            interesting particularly the
advertising
          
                  
            2:26:23
          
          
            part cuz it really just lays
out what is
          
                  
            2:26:24
          
          
            happening and why it's
happening and why
          
                  
            2:26:26
          
          
            social media is such a mess
period that
          
                  
            2:26:29
          
          
            is that advertising especially
          
                  
            2:26:32
          
          
            advertising online is the
selling of
          
                  
            2:26:35
          
          
            attention almost all content on
the
          
                  
            2:26:37
          
          
            Internet is paid for by
advertising and
          
                  
            2:26:39
          
          
            the way these systems have
evolved is
          
                  
            2:26:42
          
          
            the the most attention for the
least
          
                  
            2:26:45
          
          
            dollars is what advertisers buy
for the
          
                  
            2:26:47
          
          
            most part and by that if you
want to pay
          
                  
            2:26:51
          
          
            for the creation of something
with
          
                  
            2:26:52
          
          
            advertising the formula becomes
how
          
                  
            2:26:55
          
          
            little can I spend to get the
most
          
                  
            2:26:57
          
          
            attention even I get clickbait
you make
          
                  
            2:26:59
          
          
            a cat standing on a piano yeah
and you
          
                  
            2:27:01
          
          
            make it it goes
          
                  
            2:27:02
          
          
            - yelling fire in the theater
tonight if
          
                  
            2:27:04
          
          
            you got paid for yelling fire
in the
          
                  
            2:27:05
          
          
            theater people in there no
consequences
          
                  
            2:27:08
          
          
            you would do that that in many
ways is
          
                  
            2:27:10
          
          
            what the Internet has become and
          
                  
            2:27:12
          
          
            algorithms and advertising are
all
          
                  
            2:27:14
          
          
            reinforcing this this system
where
          
                  
            2:27:16
          
          
            whatever gets the most
attention wins
          
                  
            2:27:18
          
          
            and as cheaply as you can
create that
          
                  
            2:27:20
          
          
            most attention
          
                  
            2:27:21
          
          
            that's what rewarded and I
assume the
          
                  
            2:27:23
          
          
            flipside is that a subscription
model
          
                  
            2:27:25
          
          
            means you got to produce
something of
          
                  
            2:27:27
          
          
            value or people won't pay for
it found a
          
                  
            2:27:29
          
          
            value yeah the subscription
model is if
          
                  
            2:27:31
          
          
            we produce something good you
pay for it
          
                  
            2:27:33
          
          
            it has to be valuable enough to
the
          
                  
            2:27:36
          
          
            person receiving it to pay for
it if
          
                  
            2:27:38
          
          
            it's not they stop paying
that's the the
          
                  
            2:27:40
          
          
            whole basis it's it's a much
more direct
          
                  
            2:27:43
          
          
            and it keeps us honest yeah
thank you
          
                  
            2:27:46
          
          
            for explaining our model almost
          
                  
            2:27:48
          
          
            perfectly ev except we don't
force
          
                  
            2:27:51
          
          
            people to pay for something
they don't
          
                  
            2:27:54
          
          
            know if it's valuable yet well
it's also
          
                  
            2:27:56
          
          
            some
          
                  
            2:28:00
          
          
            disingenuous nough cements about
          
                  
            2:28:03
          
          
            advertising and medium medium
really
          
                  
            2:28:06
          
          
            relies on the writers paying
his medium
          
                  
            2:28:11
          
          
            that's the subscription because
you can
          
                  
            2:28:13
          
          
            get sent out a link to most
medium
          
                  
            2:28:15
          
          
            articles and you the link will
worker
          
                  
            2:28:17
          
          
            won't work like for example I
have
          
                  
            2:28:19
          
          
            something written on there and
I noticed
          
                  
            2:28:20
          
          
            I've never paid him a nickel
and so if I
          
                  
            2:28:23
          
          
            send a link out some people who
are part
          
                  
            2:28:26
          
          
            of the system can see the thing
other
          
                  
            2:28:28
          
          
            people just won't even get it
but if
          
                  
            2:28:31
          
          
            you're like a full time all-in
writer
          
                  
            2:28:33
          
          
            and you're paying you're paying
money to
          
                  
            2:28:36
          
          
            beyond there your stuff can be
          
                  
            2:28:38
          
          
            distributed pretty widely so
what you're
          
                  
            2:28:40
          
          
            so it's you're saying that the
medium is
          
                  
            2:28:42
          
          
            kind of a vanity press is a
it's a
          
                  
            2:28:45
          
          
            big-time vanity press probably
one step
          
                  
            2:28:49
          
          
            up from and then this guy is
the kind of
          
                  
            2:28:51
          
          
            guy that can analyze this stuff
cuz he's
          
                  
            2:28:53
          
          
            got he thinks in social media
terms this
          
                  
            2:28:56
          
          
            is one step up from HuffPost
which is
          
                  
            2:29:00
          
          
            largely a vanity press but you
don't
          
                  
            2:29:02
          
          
            have to pay to be in HuffPost
          
                  
            2:29:03
          
          
            you just have to have a name or
          
                  
            2:29:05
          
          
            something like that and you can
use
          
                  
            2:29:07
          
          
            submit articles the Huff Post
and then
          
                  
            2:29:08
          
          
            they run them as though that
you're a
          
                  
            2:29:10
          
          
            writer there when you're not
have most
          
                  
            2:29:13
          
          
            people that you find their
byline and
          
                  
            2:29:15
          
          
            Huff Post they they're writing
for free
          
                  
            2:29:18
          
          
            yes embarrasses yes I'm well
and medium
          
                  
            2:29:21
          
          
            is like the next generation of
that
          
                  
            2:29:24
          
          
            you're not only writing for
free you're
          
                  
            2:29:26
          
          
            paying to be published and
distributed
          
                  
            2:29:29
          
          
            so this is nonsense what he
said about I
          
                  
            2:29:32
          
          
            mean he's what he said about
advertisers
          
                  
            2:29:33
          
          
            is correct but that's not the
way his
          
                  
            2:29:35
          
          
            system works I don't like his
system I
          
                  
            2:29:37
          
          
            don't want to pay no we've to
be paid
          
                  
            2:29:44
          
          
            you're supposed to be paid yeah
paid
          
                  
            2:29:46
          
          
            this is supposed to be paid
this is like
          
                  
            2:29:48
          
          
            the same thing this all started
I
          
                  
            2:29:49
          
          
            believe maybe I can blame it
all on Ted
          
                  
            2:29:51
          
          
            and TEDx he's bone has to go
yeah okay
          
                  
            2:29:55
          
          
            and use there's some great
horror
          
                  
            2:29:58
          
          
            stories about people who gave a
speech
          
                  
            2:30:00
          
          
            there and then they besides not
getting
          
                  
            2:30:02
          
          
            paid you have to do you have to
show up
          
                  
            2:30:04
          
          
            at cocktail parties and you got
to do
          
                  
            2:30:06
          
          
            all these things for the
benefit of the
          
                  
            2:30:08
          
          
            people who pay five thousand
bucks or
          
                  
            2:30:10
          
          
            whatever it is to sit through
your
          
                  
            2:30:12
          
          
            speech
          
                  
            2:30:13
          
          
            a few other species that are
can't be
          
                  
            2:30:15
          
          
            more than 18 minutes long and
you're
          
                  
            2:30:17
          
          
            gonna be coached on how to
deliver them
          
                  
            2:30:19
          
          
            and you have to wear this
headset and
          
                  
            2:30:21
          
          
            you have to do this and that
and you're
          
                  
            2:30:22
          
          
            not getting paid this is
ludicrous this
          
                  
            2:30:25
          
          
            is the second time you brought
up the
          
                  
            2:30:27
          
          
            Ted thing are you yeah this is
something
          
                  
            2:30:29
          
          
            you want to talk about are you
mad about
          
                  
            2:30:30
          
          
            how I brought it up as a as a
no but
          
                  
            2:30:32
          
          
            this is I didn't bring it up
the first
          
                  
            2:30:34
          
          
            time you did no you said Ted a
TED talk
          
                  
            2:30:39
          
          
            Oh doc I brought it up but he
was sure I
          
                  
            2:30:43
          
          
            was triggered
          
                  
            2:30:44
          
          
            yeah why are you triggers you
have a
          
                  
            2:30:47
          
          
            problem because this one of
these things
          
                  
            2:30:49
          
          
            were somebody's making millions
and
          
                  
            2:30:51
          
          
            millions of dollars and people
are
          
                  
            2:30:53
          
          
            giving their time away to help
the guy
          
                  
            2:30:57
          
          
            make millions and they're not
getting
          
                  
            2:30:59
          
          
            paid a nickel it's not fair in
this
          
                  
            2:31:01
          
          
            earth so yes I agree and that's
why we
          
                  
            2:31:04
          
          
            came up with the value for
value model
          
                  
            2:31:06
          
          
            it's simple
          
                  
            2:31:07
          
          
            did you get any value out of
what we
          
                  
            2:31:10
          
          
            were just telling you about the
things
          
                  
            2:31:12
          
          
            we explored the media we
deconstructed
          
                  
            2:31:14
          
          
            if you did translate that into
a number
          
                  
            2:31:17
          
          
            and send it to us by donation
to know
          
                  
            2:31:21
          
          
            again imagine all the people
who could
          
                  
            2:31:23
          
          
            do with us oh yeah
          
                  
            2:31:24
          
          
            [Music]
          
                  
            2:31:31
          
          
            I'm sure I'd feel a lot
differently if
          
                  
            2:31:34
          
          
            we were making millions and
millions of
          
                  
            2:31:35
          
          
            dollars we'd be like yeah
that's great
          
                  
            2:31:38
          
          
            I'll go on that any time I mean
to go to
          
                  
            2:31:40
          
          
            visit us he attend talk you're
paying
          
                  
            2:31:43
          
          
            more than anyone any single
donor has
          
                  
            2:31:46
          
          
            ever given this show and one
shot $5,000
          
                  
            2:31:49
          
          
            I think the most one time where
you got
          
                  
            2:31:52
          
          
            something like high threes ones
yeah
          
                  
            2:31:57
          
          
            it's a room full of people that
paid
          
                  
            2:32:00
          
          
            $5,000 yes it's uneven men
they're
          
                  
            2:32:02
          
          
            talking like a dancing monkey
uh for
          
                  
            2:32:07
          
          
            free it's just it's just beyond
me this
          
                  
            2:32:12
          
          
            is beyond me I just I'm I'm
          
                  
            2:32:13
          
          
            flabbergasted this goes on but
I even
          
                  
            2:32:15
          
          
            admire Anderson for me pulling
it off
          
                  
            2:32:19
          
          
            yeah Chris yes of course the
nice guy
          
                  
            2:32:22
          
          
            I've met him say I had dinner
with him
          
                  
            2:32:24
          
          
            once there's the rub okay you
had dinner
          
                  
            2:32:29
          
          
            with him once and then something
          
                  
            2:32:31
          
          
            something stuck no no I like
the guy
          
                  
            2:32:33
          
          
            it's just a model I never liked
yeah
          
                  
            2:32:36
          
          
            they never invited me so I
never asked
          
                  
            2:32:39
          
          
            me have you ever asked you axed
          
                  
            2:32:43
          
          
            not that I know but you don't
you had
          
                  
            2:32:46
          
          
            ground about we know I have
been asked
          
                  
            2:32:48
          
          
            to do it a TEDx talk yeah right
that's
          
                  
            2:32:52
          
          
            gonna I haven't even gotten
that request
          
                  
            2:32:55
          
          
            so be a little more thankful
starts us
          
                  
            2:33:01
          
          
            off at $85 and step rights nice
houses
          
                  
            2:33:07
          
          
            from the New Jersey music
donation from
          
                  
            2:33:10
          
          
            this is the New Jersey meeting
the
          
                  
            2:33:12
          
          
            accumulated funds from the
Jersey meet
          
                  
            2:33:14
          
          
            up nice uh it's a small token
of our
          
                  
            2:33:17
          
          
            appreciation in fact we have to
figure
          
                  
            2:33:18
          
          
            out some mechanism so they've
been good
          
                  
            2:33:20
          
          
            if they want to donate is some
way of
          
                  
            2:33:21
          
          
            doing it
          
                  
            2:33:22
          
          
            please check your email for our
support
          
                  
            2:33:24
          
          
            with photo ITM Stephanie when
and Gary
          
                  
            2:33:29
          
          
            Jaron Carolina uh edita I think
so Colin
          
                  
            2:33:35
          
          
            and will yes I did see the
report thank
          
                  
            2:33:38
          
          
            you I did see the photo that
was very
          
                  
            2:33:40
          
          
            nice made to make sure you put
it on no
          
                  
            2:33:41
          
          
            agenda meetups calm so other
people can
          
                  
            2:33:43
          
          
            see it just a spot there you
can put
          
                  
            2:33:45
          
          
            your meetup report yeah yeah
bike so
          
                  
            2:33:49
          
          
            they can't find it but you can
put it in
          
                  
            2:33:51
          
          
            your you can edit it your your
meetup
          
                  
            2:33:53
          
          
            and then add stuff to it I think
          
                  
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            by count Craig of Georgia Craig
Kutner
          
                  
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            in Atlanta
          
                  
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            69 60 and I would drop off
quick on
          
                  
            2:34:03
          
          
            today's show celebrating a
birthday for
          
                  
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            me because I can and so he's on
the list
          
                  
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            uh Chuck Schulz in Anniston
Alabama 69
          
                  
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            69 he needs an F cancer karma
can we do
          
                  
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            at the end sure can uh Jeffrey
Sewell in
          
                  
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            San Jose California whose
newbie six
          
                  
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            eight seven eight
          
                  
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            give him a D douching I did
yeah I would
          
                  
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            take him in as a check and I
think his
          
                  
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            first one he's ever done go
tawheed a
          
                  
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            fifty two thirty
          
                  
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            5432 michael gates 5280 edward
posh in
          
                  
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            omaha nebraska 51 51 another
birthday
          
                  
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            boy uh with a birthday present
to
          
                  
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            himself no lady butters lady
butters in
          
                  
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            Tiverton Rhode Island my dad
would have
          
                  
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            been 50 on eleven seven why
don't we put
          
                  
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            him on the list he's not I
don't know my
          
                  
            2:35:04
          
          
            dad would have been fifty on
there will
          
                  
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            be today and his honor this is
for the
          
                  
            2:35:07
          
          
            Dame drive towards the to kick
ass
          
                  
            2:35:09
          
          
            ladies at the Boston meet up
and have a
          
                  
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            meet up report in a moment karma
          
                  
            2:35:14
          
          
            requested for all the wicked
awesome
          
                  
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            people from that night
including my
          
                  
            2:35:18
          
          
            beloved sir knives lady butters
so very
          
                  
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            nice so do I put it on the list
          
                  
            2:35:24
          
          
            dad butters yeah dad butters on
on the
          
                  
            2:35:28
          
          
            list and would have been
butters would
          
                  
            2:35:33
          
          
            have been fifty today that's
nice nice
          
                  
            2:35:35
          
          
            to celebrate him that that way
Jason gay
          
                  
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            and Nora northglenn Colorado the
          
                  
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            following people are all fifty
dollar
          
                  
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            donors were that far already
          
                  
            2:35:45
          
          
            he needs to be deduced he says
I was
          
                  
            2:35:47
          
          
            turned on to the show by my boy
Stryker
          
                  
            2:35:50
          
          
            that's a cool name it's a good
day hey
          
                  
            2:35:54
          
          
            everybody its Stryker gay I'll
be with
          
                  
            2:35:59
          
          
            great character name for all
your
          
                  
            2:36:05
          
          
            writers out there know this is
a disc
          
                  
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            jockey name hey everybody
          
                  
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            what is your is a good discharge
          
                  
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            everybody it's strike agree
with you I
          
                  
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            like it
          
                  
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            you said gray ok I'm sorry it's
gay I
          
                  
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            did it wrong I was turned on to
the show
          
                  
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            by my boy striker and needs to
be
          
                  
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            [Music]
          
                  
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            deduced I'll be working my way
towards
          
                  
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            knighthood as Jason sir random
thoughts
          
                  
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            of the Rockies ok love the show
you guys
          
                  
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            do great work thank you very
much Jason
          
                  
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            welcome to the community in
onward we
          
                  
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            have Jim McDonald in Ottawa
Ontario
          
                  
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            these are all 50 dollar donors
          
                  
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            Villarreal Villarreal and
Mercedes Texas
          
                  
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            Jonathan Mayer in Xenia Ohio
          
                  
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            Heather Rodriguez in Stockton
California
          
                  
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            Edward Mazurek in Memphis
Tennessee
          
                  
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            Matthew Janiszewski in Chicago
Illinois
          
                  
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            Jason six nine four e VA in
Chaz fir'd
          
                  
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            Pennsylvania
          
                  
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            I had no way to put that on our
three
          
                  
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            this one he wants to be called
down I
          
                  
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            guess and Jeffrey's cinnamon in
South
          
                  
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            Euclid Ohio those are all the
folks that
          
                  
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            helped us produce show 1188
want to
          
                  
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            thank each and every one of
them for
          
                  
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            their contributions yes and
also the
          
                  
            2:37:21
          
          
            folks who came in under $50 and
I could
          
                  
            2:37:24
          
          
            see right here people even will
still
          
                  
            2:37:25
          
          
            say I'd like to be anonymous
even though
          
                  
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            under 50 you are that's
guaranteed we
          
                  
            2:37:29
          
          
            won't read under that $50 line
and the
          
                  
            2:37:31
          
          
            people who have subscriptions
you can
          
                  
            2:37:33
          
          
            find a lot of them to
participate in I
          
                  
            2:37:35
          
          
            saw I forgot who it was so once
today I
          
                  
            2:37:37
          
          
            just signed up for four dollars
a week
          
                  
            2:37:39
          
          
            that's fantastic that that
helps a lot
          
                  
            2:37:41
          
          
            if everyone did that then we
wouldn't
          
                  
            2:37:44
          
          
            have a donation segment if
everyone who
          
                  
            2:37:46
          
          
            listens was on a subscription
service
          
                  
            2:37:47
          
          
            and that would kind of suck too
because
          
                  
            2:37:50
          
          
            I like the notes but we get a
lot of the
          
                  
            2:37:53
          
          
            notes are segments a block well
yeah but
          
                  
            2:37:56
          
          
            I like the notes I just like
its content
          
                  
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            you want to keep it in there
it's added
          
                  
            2:38:04
          
          
            thank you again
          
                  
            2:38:05
          
          
            it is highly appreciated it is
the value
          
                  
            2:38:08
          
          
            for value system and you let us
know and
          
                  
            2:38:10
          
          
            it's how we stay sharp and it's
the
          
                  
            2:38:11
          
          
            honest way to do it we're not
like those
          
                  
            2:38:13
          
          
            F heads you know we're not
gonna we're
          
                  
            2:38:16
          
          
            not gonna pay you to listen or
pay F for
          
                  
            2:38:20
          
          
            you to listen no value for
value and if
          
                  
            2:38:22
          
          
            you want to learn more go to to
Vollrath
          
                  
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            org slash na as requested
          
                  
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            [Applause]
          
                  
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            you've got karma
          
                  
            2:38:43
          
          
            November 7 2019 you get mo
lowlands
          
                  
            2:38:46
          
          
            birthday list we see sir sander
saying
          
                  
            2:38:48
          
          
            happy birthday to his twin
daughters
          
                  
            2:38:50
          
          
            themes are celebrated on
November 5th
          
                  
            2:38:52
          
          
            Eduard posh celebrated
yesterday Sir Ian
          
                  
            2:38:55
          
          
            Garlin his birthday is today by
count
          
                  
            2:38:58
          
          
            Craig will be celebrating on
November
          
                  
            2:38:59
          
          
            9th and sir hashtag null says
happy
          
                  
            2:39:02
          
          
            birthday to his son sir dragon
heart
          
                  
            2:39:04
          
          
            he'll be 19 on November 11th
and finally
          
                  
            2:39:07
          
          
            dad butters would have been 50
year old
          
                  
            2:39:09
          
          
            350 years old today and we say
happy
          
                  
            2:39:12
          
          
            birthday to everybody on behalf
of the
          
                  
            2:39:13
          
          
            entire staff and management of
the No
          
                  
            2:39:15
          
          
            Agenda show known as Baron of
the Alps
          
                  
            2:39:37
          
          
            ups his ante today and sander
of course
          
                  
            2:39:39
          
          
            has been with us for a long
long time
          
                  
            2:39:40
          
          
            and a long supporter of the
show and we
          
                  
            2:39:43
          
          
            are very happy to bestow upon
him the
          
                  
            2:39:45
          
          
            peerage title of Earl of the
Swiss Alps
          
                  
            2:39:48
          
          
            and thank you for your courage
sir
          
                  
            2:39:50
          
          
            sander it is always highly
appreciated
          
                  
            2:39:52
          
          
            and thank you for sticking it
out with
          
                  
            2:39:54
          
          
            us through all of these years
we have
          
                  
            2:39:57
          
          
            one two three yes three nights
three
          
                  
            2:40:02
          
          
            gents today no Dame's even
though the
          
                  
            2:40:03
          
          
            Dame Drive is in full drive can
we have
          
                  
            2:40:05
          
          
            a blade please here you go
theater of
          
                  
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            the mind
          
                  
            2:40:13
          
          
            [Music]
          
                  
            2:40:16
          
          
            de Grasse gentlemen stepping up
here in
          
                  
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            the podium right next to the
lecture
          
                  
            2:40:20
          
          
            because all three of you
however are
          
                  
            2:40:22
          
          
            about to become Knights of the
No Agenda
          
                  
            2:40:23
          
          
            Roundtable you see our knights
and dames
          
                  
            2:40:25
          
          
            sitting here awaiting your
arrival we
          
                  
            2:40:26
          
          
            have some goodies lined up for
you at
          
                  
            2:40:28
          
          
            the table
          
                  
            2:40:28
          
          
            but first I'm very proud to
pronounce
          
                  
            2:40:30
          
          
            the kV sir DJ Fuji of Jersey
City sir
          
                  
            2:40:34
          
          
            Sammy and serve fusion off for
you
          
                  
            2:40:38
          
          
            gentlemen we have hookers and
blow
          
                  
            2:40:40
          
          
            rent boys and Chardonnay
karaoke and
          
                  
            2:40:42
          
          
            cocktails
          
                  
            2:40:43
          
          
            boba and stinky tofu hog and
POI onion
          
                  
            2:40:46
          
          
            rings and ice cream pepperoni
rolls and
          
                  
            2:40:48
          
          
            Pale Ales we got breast milk
and pablum
          
                  
            2:40:51
          
          
            ginger ale and gerbils bong
hits and
          
                  
            2:40:53
          
          
            bourbon and yes/no roundtable
would be
          
                  
            2:40:56
          
          
            complete without the requisite
mutton
          
                  
            2:40:57
          
          
            and Mead please gentlemen all
three of
          
                  
            2:40:59
          
          
            you go over to Noah to the
nation.com
          
                  
            2:41:01
          
          
            slash rings and Eric the shill
will
          
                  
            2:41:03
          
          
            gladly take your info which
consists of
          
                  
            2:41:06
          
          
            a mailing address and your ring
size and
          
                  
            2:41:08
          
          
            you will get that off to you as
soon as
          
                  
            2:41:10
          
          
            possible explaining our meetups
to some
          
                  
            2:41:22
          
          
            people here and they were like
wow that
          
                  
            2:41:23
          
          
            sounds really cool well you
know we have
          
                  
            2:41:25
          
          
            them in hot one too like really
so yeah
          
                  
            2:41:27
          
          
            and we got one coming up the
end of the
          
                  
            2:41:29
          
          
            month come yes well that's what
I always
          
                  
            2:41:33
          
          
            tell everybody here's the No
Agenda
          
                  
            2:41:35
          
          
            Boston meetup report in the
morning pod
          
                  
            2:41:37
          
          
            fathers this is the report for
November
          
                  
            2:41:38
          
          
            2nd 2019 leading up to the
event itself
          
                  
            2:41:41
          
          
            were several last-minute
changes which
          
                  
            2:41:44
          
          
            thankfully in the end totally
were
          
                  
            2:41:46
          
          
            totally worked out from one
place that
          
                  
            2:41:48
          
          
            closed seasonally the
last-minute change
          
                  
            2:41:50
          
          
            to Union Oyster House changed
one last
          
                  
            2:41:52
          
          
            time two Hennessy's but it was
on the
          
                  
            2:41:54
          
          
            same street long story short
both Union
          
                  
            2:41:57
          
          
            oyster and Hennessey's are
separated by
          
                  
            2:41:58
          
          
            this one store on each side of
this
          
                  
            2:42:01
          
          
            building between them are two
red 33s
          
                  
            2:42:03
          
          
            okay picture attached so huge
thanks to
          
                  
            2:42:06
          
          
            Hennessey's for being such
gracious
          
                  
            2:42:07
          
          
            last-minute hosts they treated
us great
          
                  
            2:42:09
          
          
            we had Stick 'less heads
violation of
          
                  
            2:42:12
          
          
            protocol we had sticklers heads
of Adam
          
                  
            2:42:15
          
          
            and John nametags a guestbook
to sign
          
                  
            2:42:17
          
          
            and a collections envelope
where we
          
                  
            2:42:19
          
          
            collected 700 plus dollars from
the
          
                  
            2:42:21
          
          
            Boston Meetup overall we had 22
          
                  
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            participants for our inaugural
Meetup
          
                  
            2:42:26
          
          
            while 22 that's a great showing
          
                  
            2:42:29
          
          
            that's a good one already we
have a
          
                  
            2:42:32
          
          
            follow-up meeting coming soon
keep an
          
                  
            2:42:34
          
          
            eye out for that and what Bill
burr
          
                  
            2:42:35
          
          
            calls the nicest outer suburbs
of Boston
          
                  
            2:42:37
          
          
            at Castle Island brewery in
Norwood in
          
                  
            2:42:39
          
          
            the coming months everyone had
a great
          
                  
            2:42:41
          
          
            time and got along super well
and we
          
                  
            2:42:43
          
          
            were all looking forward to
meet up
          
                  
            2:42:44
          
          
            meeting up again and have even
more of a
          
                  
            2:42:46
          
          
            fellow producers and no agenda
royalty
          
                  
            2:42:48
          
          
            join us we had so many great
people it's
          
                  
            2:42:50
          
          
            impossible to say how great
everyone was
          
                  
            2:42:52
          
          
            and how well everyone got along
and how
          
                  
            2:42:54
          
          
            interesting each person there
turns out
          
                  
            2:42:56
          
          
            to be
          
                  
            2:42:56
          
          
            indeed sir Nathan Lee reporting
on the
          
                  
            2:42:59
          
          
            no agenda Boston meetup
November 2nd
          
                  
            2:43:01
          
          
            Hennessey's thank you very much
for that
          
                  
            2:43:02
          
          
            and thank you everybody for for
a great
          
                  
            2:43:06
          
          
            time yeah I'd love hearing that
that's
          
                  
            2:43:08
          
          
            really fantastic just a couple
of the
          
                  
            2:43:11
          
          
            meetups on the horizon for
today this
          
                  
            2:43:14
          
          
            evening 7 o'clock in Myrtle
Beach at the
          
                  
            2:43:16
          
          
            sneaky Beagle Orange County
this will be
          
                  
            2:43:19
          
          
            the second meet up there the
Revenge of
          
                  
            2:43:20
          
          
            the meet up that's at the boss
cat
          
                  
            2:43:23
          
          
            kitchen and libation starts at
6 o'clock
          
                  
            2:43:25
          
          
            tomorrow the Nelson BC meet up
7 o'clock
          
                  
            2:43:29
          
          
            at torchlight Brewing Saturday
North
          
                  
            2:43:31
          
          
            Charleston South Carolina at
raka
          
                  
            2:43:33
          
          
            Belleek also on Saturday Auburn
          
                  
            2:43:36
          
          
            California the Sierra Foothills
that'll
          
                  
            2:43:38
          
          
            be at 2 p.m.
          
                  
            2:43:40
          
          
            try though Charleston's 1 p.m.
and the
          
                  
            2:43:41
          
          
            Sierra Foothills is 2 p.m. that
will be
          
                  
            2:43:44
          
          
            a Moonraker brewing and
Saturday as well
          
                  
            2:43:46
          
          
            Southwest Ontario Canada Navia
7 o'clock
          
                  
            2:43:50
          
          
            and that will be at the refined
fool
          
                  
            2:43:53
          
          
            Brewing Company and burgers
from burger
          
                  
            2:43:55
          
          
            rebellion that's a mouthful and
of
          
                  
            2:43:58
          
          
            course on Sunday we will tell
you all
          
                  
            2:44:01
          
          
            about the meet ups for the next
week and
          
                  
            2:44:03
          
          
            please go and visit no agenda
meetups
          
                  
            2:44:07
          
          
            comm find a meet-up near you if
you
          
                  
            2:44:10
          
          
            can't find one well lordy go
start one
          
                  
            2:44:12
          
          
            yourself administrative duties
exactly
          
                  
            2:44:21
          
          
            so I think we do need to
mention the six
          
                  
            2:44:24
          
          
            week cycle since it passed by
its kind
          
                  
            2:44:27
          
          
            on offers on six weeks anymore
but
          
                  
            2:44:29
          
          
            another disgusting sting from
the FBI
          
                  
            2:44:33
          
          
            now read the the affidavit and
once
          
                  
            2:44:35
          
          
            again you read this stuff and
you know
          
                  
            2:44:38
          
          
            this is one minute reports I'll
play it
          
                  
            2:44:40
          
          
            in a minute always the same
boilerplate
          
                  
            2:44:43
          
          
            boy the place like some some
guy is
          
                  
            2:44:45
          
          
            found online saying something
radical
          
                  
            2:44:48
          
          
            like it put name here
          
                  
            2:44:50
          
          
            yeah put name here I want to
kill Jews
          
                  
            2:44:52
          
          
            okay that's when you send
someone to
          
                  
            2:44:55
          
          
            talk to him in my mind if
someone cuz
          
                  
            2:44:58
          
          
            they'd someone reported it
          
                  
            2:44:59
          
          
            so one reported it and the guy
you see
          
                  
            2:45:02
          
          
            the guys picture he looks like
he looks
          
                  
            2:45:03
          
          
            you know like him he maybe not
smart
          
                  
            2:45:09
          
          
            yeah and when someone's posting
I want
          
                  
            2:45:12
          
          
            to kill Jews the obvious
response is hey
          
                  
            2:45:15
          
          
            let's go talk to this guy see
what he's
          
                  
            2:45:16
          
          
            doing yeah I want to blow him
up let's
          
                  
            2:45:18
          
          
            go talk to this guy no no no
not if
          
                  
            2:45:20
          
          
            you're the FBI hey I'm gonna
play like
          
                  
            2:45:23
          
          
            I'm a chick and I'm all into
killing
          
                  
            2:45:25
          
          
            Jews let's see if we can get
this guy
          
                  
            2:45:28
          
          
            crazy and then we'll give him
some fake
          
                  
            2:45:30
          
          
            bombs and then we'll arrest him
because
          
                  
            2:45:32
          
          
            that's much scarier now to a
terror
          
                  
            2:45:34
          
          
            arrest in Colorado the FBI
taking a 27
          
                  
            2:45:38
          
          
            year-old in the custody
accusing him of
          
                  
            2:45:39
          
          
            plotting to bomb a synagogue
the FBI
          
                  
            2:45:42
          
          
            saying he admitted planning the
attack
          
                  
            2:45:44
          
          
            as part of what he called quote
a racial
          
                  
            2:45:47
          
          
            holy war and good morning to
you Robin
          
                  
            2:45:49
          
          
            temple Emanuel is the second
oldest
          
                  
            2:45:51
          
          
            synagogue here in Colorado
built in 1900
          
                  
            2:45:54
          
          
            now at the center of a domestic
          
                  
            2:45:56
          
          
            terrorism plot authorities say a
          
                  
            2:45:58
          
          
            suspected white supremacist 27
year old
          
                  
            2:46:01
          
          
            Richard Holt sir caught the
attention of
          
                  
            2:46:03
          
          
            the FBI after using multiple
Facebook
          
                  
            2:46:05
          
          
            accounts to spread his hatred
of Jews
          
                  
            2:46:07
          
          
            and his desire to blow up this
synagogue
          
                  
            2:46:10
          
          
            now on Friday undercover agents
say they
          
                  
            2:46:12
          
          
            provided the suspect with
replica pipe
          
                  
            2:46:15
          
          
            bombs and dynamite they were
harmless
          
                  
            2:46:17
          
          
            but the FBI says his intentions
were
          
                  
            2:46:19
          
          
            real Holt sir is now in custody
charged
          
                  
            2:46:22
          
          
            with a hate crime and could
face 20
          
                  
            2:46:24
          
          
            years in federal prison as for
this
          
                  
            2:46:26
          
          
            synagogue they say nowadays
they have to
          
                  
            2:46:28
          
          
            take security very seriously
and they
          
                  
            2:46:30
          
          
            are quite grateful that this
was stopped
          
                  
            2:46:32
          
          
            before it went too far John why
are we
          
                  
            2:46:34
          
          
            the only people that bring this
up time
          
                  
            2:46:38
          
          
            and time again that I mean what
does the
          
                  
            2:46:40
          
          
            FBI doing do they get more
money do they
          
                  
            2:46:42
          
          
            get a bonus if they collar
someone at a
          
                  
            2:46:45
          
          
            hate crime which they
facilitated I
          
                  
            2:46:48
          
          
            understand I just terrorism is
only
          
                  
            2:46:53
          
          
            recently become hate crimes
because if
          
                  
            2:46:55
          
          
            you can do a hate crime
          
                  
            2:46:57
          
          
            based on a white supremacy
hating white
          
                  
            2:47:01
          
          
            supremacist unlike a white
supremacist
          
                  
            2:47:04
          
          
            like ben shapiro wizard you
somehow he's
          
                  
            2:47:07
          
          
            a white supremacist by the
course of
          
                  
            2:47:10
          
          
            course but but you have a you
switched
          
                  
            2:47:16
          
          
            over from Terrans doing the
white
          
                  
            2:47:17
          
          
            supremacist because white
supremacist is
          
                  
            2:47:19
          
          
            associative you think of Trump
because
          
                  
            2:47:21
          
          
            he's accused of being one and
more he's
          
                  
            2:47:24
          
          
            supported by them or people you
know
          
                  
            2:47:26
          
          
            that are white supremacist like
Trump I
          
                  
            2:47:28
          
          
            don't know but you want to do
to make
          
                  
            2:47:30
          
          
            that change in the FBI is
involved in
          
                  
            2:47:32
          
          
            getting rid of Trump part of
the whole
          
                  
            2:47:35
          
          
            so you think that's a part of
it it's
          
                  
            2:47:36
          
          
            just a little mind fuckery
going on oh
          
                  
            2:47:38
          
          
            yeah but I think it's unfair
it's just
          
                  
            2:47:44
          
          
            unfair what I'm sharing this is
          
                  
            2:47:46
          
          
            ridiculous is gonna be it's
either gonna
          
                  
            2:47:47
          
          
            be you get there's gonna be
something
          
                  
            2:47:50
          
          
            it's gonna be some dumb dummy
that's
          
                  
            2:47:52
          
          
            it's just gonna be a dummy that
they
          
                  
            2:47:54
          
          
            said oh they're always dummies
and they
          
                  
            2:47:57
          
          
            get them take the egg come on
          
                  
            2:48:00
          
          
            and instead of saying hey man
you are
          
                  
            2:48:02
          
          
            plotting to kill somebody we
got to stop
          
                  
            2:48:04
          
          
            this I mean you got to bring
you in and
          
                  
            2:48:06
          
          
            talk to you and you know and
just talk
          
                  
            2:48:08
          
          
            to you what the hell is going
on no no
          
                  
            2:48:11
          
          
            we got to get oh how we got him
to get
          
                  
            2:48:13
          
          
            the phony bombs
          
                  
            2:48:14
          
          
            oh this will look great when we
did the
          
                  
            2:48:16
          
          
            press announcement it's
disgusting you
          
                  
            2:48:19
          
          
            scare people at the same time
we could
          
                  
            2:48:21
          
          
            just take care of this quietly
get it
          
                  
            2:48:23
          
          
            done the guy needs help
obviously some
          
                  
            2:48:25
          
          
            kind of help maybe needs to be
taken off
          
                  
            2:48:27
          
          
            the street you know there's
rules about
          
                  
            2:48:30
          
          
            threatening to I mean you can't
just be
          
                  
            2:48:31
          
          
            going around someone to kill
people can
          
                  
            2:48:34
          
          
            you know won't they take him
off for
          
                  
            2:48:36
          
          
            that yeah they can I think they
can't
          
                  
            2:48:38
          
          
            have it they don't they take it
one step
          
                  
            2:48:39
          
          
            further and set him up to be a
worst
          
                  
            2:48:41
          
          
            character and while we're on I
you know
          
                  
            2:48:43
          
          
            I'm wondering by the way this
started so
          
                  
            2:48:45
          
          
            this has been going on since
our show
          
                  
            2:48:48
          
          
            mm-hmm and I'm wondering if
there's been
          
                  
            2:48:50
          
          
            some study or something because
I was
          
                  
            2:48:52
          
          
            watching a dr. Phil is in they
had with
          
                  
            2:48:56
          
          
            yes yeah Mimi and I were
watching a dr.
          
                  
            2:49:00
          
          
            Phil for some reason it was on
and he
          
                  
            2:49:02
          
          
            was interesting because there's
this
          
                  
            2:49:03
          
          
            white kid who sound like a
black kid and
          
                  
            2:49:05
          
          
            he's 16 17 he's got five
felonies in
          
                  
            2:49:09
          
          
            there and he's a punk he's just
          
                  
            2:49:11
          
          
            Punk and his mom lets him do
everything
          
                  
            2:49:12
          
          
            his dad wants to beat the crap
out of
          
                  
            2:49:13
          
          
            him but the mom runs the roost
and feels
          
                  
            2:49:17
          
          
            going and talking to this kid
who's got
          
                  
            2:49:19
          
          
            the head cocked and he says I'm
not
          
                  
            2:49:22
          
          
            afraid of prison and I'm a
tough kid and
          
                  
            2:49:24
          
          
            all the rest of it and at some
point you
          
                  
            2:49:27
          
          
            at least me me and I agree that
I don't
          
                  
            2:49:29
          
          
            care what they can talk to
themselves so
          
                  
            2:49:30
          
          
            they're blue in the face this
kid is
          
                  
            2:49:32
          
          
            just bad news and he's gonna do
what
          
                  
            2:49:35
          
          
            he's gonna do and it's like
there used
          
                  
            2:49:38
          
          
            to be a TV show called crime
story where
          
                  
            2:49:40
          
          
            these guys made so much money
in Chicago
          
                  
            2:49:43
          
          
            they moved to Las Vegas and
they could
          
                  
            2:49:45
          
          
            start all these businesses
start a
          
                  
            2:49:46
          
          
            casino and they were all gonna
be legit
          
                  
            2:49:48
          
          
            but then they went right back
into crime
          
                  
            2:49:50
          
          
            because the one guy says the
other why
          
                  
            2:49:52
          
          
            do we do this why we wouldn't
be legit
          
                  
            2:49:54
          
          
            but we're doing this I guess
it's just
          
                  
            2:49:56
          
          
            because we're criminals okay so
I think
          
                  
            2:50:01
          
          
            maybe they just figured this
guy's gonna
          
                  
            2:50:03
          
          
            do something bad I mean I have
to give
          
                  
            2:50:05
          
          
            them the benefit of the doubt
with these
          
                  
            2:50:07
          
          
            people hmm
          
                  
            2:50:08
          
          
            the guy's a loose cannon and
he's gonna
          
                  
            2:50:10
          
          
            do this anyway we might as well
do it
          
                  
            2:50:12
          
          
            under controlled circumstances
and get
          
                  
            2:50:14
          
          
            him off the street I'm done
taking the
          
                  
            2:50:16
          
          
            side of the FBI
          
                  
            2:50:17
          
          
            yes very unpopular
          
                  
            2:50:20
          
          
            oh I took it so we have Trump
in a quid
          
                  
            2:50:26
          
          
            pro quo and the media doesn't
seem to be
          
                  
            2:50:28
          
          
            interested but an actual quid
pro quo
          
                  
            2:50:31
          
          
            and I can prove it right here
you know
          
                  
            2:50:33
          
          
            it's you know he's didn't ask
to make up
          
                  
            2:50:36
          
          
            dirt on Joe Biden but it's a
quid pro
          
                  
            2:50:38
          
          
            quo and the quid was hey guys
can you
          
                  
            2:50:44
          
          
            stop can you reverse your gas
pipelines
          
                  
            2:50:48
          
          
            so you can take our liquid put
liquid
          
                  
            2:50:51
          
          
            natural gas and then pump it
through
          
                  
            2:50:54
          
          
            everyone else into Europe so
that you
          
                  
            2:50:56
          
          
            know you're not reliant upon
Russian gas
          
                  
            2:50:59
          
          
            can you guys do that if you do
I'll put
          
                  
            2:51:02
          
          
            you in the visa waiver program
so Poland
          
                  
            2:51:05
          
          
            is a country great people we
gotta
          
                  
            2:51:08
          
          
            polish Americans living in the
United
          
                  
            2:51:10
          
          
            States I've just signed I will
soon be
          
                  
            2:51:14
          
          
            signing and signed certain
preliminary
          
                  
            2:51:16
          
          
            applications we will be giving
a full
          
                  
            2:51:19
          
          
            visa waiver to Poland that
means that
          
                  
            2:51:23
          
          
            people from Poland can easily
travel
          
                  
            2:51:25
          
          
            there and people from here can
easily go
          
                  
            2:51:28
          
          
            back and forth they can each
people from
          
                  
            2:51:31
          
          
            the US people from Poland can
very
          
                  
            2:51:33
          
          
            easily go back and forth
between the
          
                  
            2:51:36
          
          
            United States and Poland so
they've been
          
                  
            2:51:38
          
          
            trying to get this for many
many decades
          
                  
            2:51:41
          
          
            and I got it for the Polish
people in
          
                  
            2:51:45
          
          
            honor of the Polish people in
the United
          
                  
            2:51:47
          
          
            States and had fallen so I'm
very happy
          
                  
            2:51:49
          
          
            with that yes there's your pro
quo
          
                  
            2:51:54
          
          
            well what are you gonna do no
nothing
          
                  
            2:51:56
          
          
            well I'm waiting for some peach
          
                  
            2:51:59
          
          
            I'm waiting for the fallout I
mean I you
          
                  
            2:52:02
          
          
            know that the Jews in Congress
are
          
                  
            2:52:04
          
          
            unhappy with this move because
they were
          
                  
            2:52:06
          
          
            thwarted a decade world with
you yeah
          
                  
            2:52:10
          
          
            because they feel that the the
the the
          
                  
            2:52:12
          
          
            poles killed the Jews in the
          
                  
            2:52:13
          
          
            concentration camps and there's
there's
          
                  
            2:52:15
          
          
            a lot of organized people who
did not
          
                  
            2:52:17
          
          
            want this to happen I haven't
heard any
          
                  
            2:52:19
          
          
            fallout yet I don't think there
will be
          
                  
            2:52:22
          
          
            hmm I think it's all a bluff I
do have a
          
                  
            2:52:25
          
          
            it's probably one of the clips
I have
          
                  
            2:52:28
          
          
            the where I got this I so from
but since
          
                  
            2:52:29
          
          
            you played Trump I'm gonna play
this
          
                  
            2:52:31
          
          
            this isoh possible and to show
I so okay
          
                  
            2:52:35
          
          
            let me grab that's great what
was that
          
                  
            2:52:42
          
          
            from his recent Mississippi or
where was
          
                  
            2:52:44
          
          
            that from no is the Kentucky
speech no I
          
                  
            2:52:47
          
          
            like it
          
                  
            2:52:47
          
          
            where he actually lost out in
fact they
          
                  
            2:52:49
          
          
            have a rundown of all those
things but
          
                  
            2:52:51
          
          
            before we do that I'd like to
play
          
                  
            2:52:53
          
          
            something that's been lurking
me because
          
                  
            2:52:57
          
          
            it was like a forgotten part of
the
          
                  
            2:53:00
          
          
            Obama administration when
Robert Gates
          
                  
            2:53:01
          
          
            wrote his you know the ex
Defense
          
                  
            2:53:04
          
          
            Department guy and I think spook
          
                  
            2:53:06
          
          
            wrote his book we're in the
book and
          
                  
            2:53:10
          
          
            this was early on before they
Baldy
          
                  
            2:53:12
          
          
            candidacies we can it became
apparent in
          
                  
            2:53:15
          
          
            the book he says that Biden
every
          
                  
            2:53:17
          
          
            foreign policy decision by
never made
          
                  
            2:53:19
          
          
            and as a vice president was
wrong
          
                  
            2:53:25
          
          
            believe it yeah so apparently
on Face
          
                  
            2:53:30
          
          
            the Nation that woman brought
gates on
          
                  
            2:53:34
          
          
            to the show to grill them about
this and
          
                  
            2:53:37
          
          
            this is quite a kind of an
interesting
          
                  
            2:53:39
          
          
            clip reading your memoir before
we sat
          
                  
            2:53:42
          
          
            down to talk and you said in
your memoir
          
                  
            2:53:44
          
          
            Joe Biden is impossible not to
like
          
                  
            2:53:48
          
          
            quote he's a man of integrity
incapable
          
                  
            2:53:51
          
          
            of hiding what he really thinks
one of
          
                  
            2:53:53
          
          
            those rare people you know you
can turn
          
                  
            2:53:55
          
          
            to for help in a personal
crisis still I
          
                  
            2:53:58
          
          
            think he's been wrong on nearly
every
          
                  
            2:54:01
          
          
            major foreign policy and
national
          
                  
            2:54:02
          
          
            security issue over the past
four
          
                  
            2:54:05
          
          
            decades what he'd be an
effective
          
                  
            2:54:08
          
          
            commander in chief I I don't
know I
          
                  
            2:54:11
          
          
            don't know I I think I stand by
that
          
                  
            2:54:14
          
          
            statement he and I agreed on
some key
          
                  
            2:54:17
          
          
            issues and the Obama
administration we
          
                  
            2:54:19
          
          
            disagreed significantly on
Afghanistan
          
                  
            2:54:22
          
          
            and some other issues I think
that the
          
                  
            2:54:26
          
          
            vice president has some issues
with the
          
                  
            2:54:28
          
          
            military so how he would get
along with
          
                  
            2:54:30
          
          
            the senior military and what
that
          
                  
            2:54:33
          
          
            relationship would be I just I
think it
          
                  
            2:54:36
          
          
            would depend on the
personalities at the
          
                  
            2:54:37
          
          
            time where was this where did
he say
          
                  
            2:54:40
          
          
            this just not Face the Nation
okay
          
                  
            2:54:43
          
          
            recent show yeah so he still
won't he's
          
                  
            2:54:47
          
          
            not on board why would why
would he be
          
                  
            2:54:49
          
          
            no no no no no no he's the
stats deepest
          
                  
            2:54:53
          
          
            that's where he is so let's
play a
          
                  
            2:54:57
          
          
            couple of the impeachment sorry
I'm
          
                  
            2:54:59
          
          
            sorry I thought you would want
to end
          
                  
            2:55:01
          
          
            after three hours you want to
keep going
          
                  
            2:55:02
          
          
            oh you're we done but it's
three hours
          
                  
            2:55:05
          
          
            we're and we still I don't want
to if
          
                  
            2:55:11
          
          
            you want it's a podcast no I
don't want
          
                  
            2:55:14
          
          
            to drag it out but I would like
to at
          
                  
            2:55:16
          
          
            least get this this well no you
know
          
                  
            2:55:18
          
          
            this can move with today's
today today
          
                  
            2:55:22
          
          
            so Sunday still fresh so this
will still
          
                  
            2:55:25
          
          
            be fresh you'll be fresh I
believe so
          
                  
            2:55:28
          
          
            I'm looking at these over and
yes I see
          
                  
            2:55:30
          
          
            nothing that needs to be run
except for
          
                  
            2:55:34
          
          
            the 13 year-old homicidal
maniac clip me
          
                  
            2:55:36
          
          
            no no let's do the search in
your old
          
                  
            2:55:38
          
          
            new way now I need a homicidal
maniac to
          
                  
            2:55:40
          
          
            end this show that's not a way
to end
          
                  
            2:55:42
          
          
            this is a perfect way to end
this show
          
                  
            2:55:44
          
          
            okay go okay
          
                  
            2:55:46
          
          
            thirteen-year-old homicidal
maniac we
          
                  
            2:55:48
          
          
            turned out to that urgent hunt
tonight
          
                  
            2:55:49
          
          
            for a fugitive charged in two
murders
          
                  
            2:55:51
          
          
            and he's just 13 he escaped
from a
          
                  
            2:55:54
          
          
            holding room after a court
appearance
          
                  
            2:55:55
          
          
            getting away barefoot and in leg
          
                  
            2:55:57
          
          
            restraints authorities tonight
are now
          
                  
            2:55:59
          
          
            warning the public and here's
ABC's
          
                  
            2:56:00
          
          
            Steve osunsami
          
                  
            2:56:02
          
          
            in North Carolina authorities
tonight
          
                  
            2:56:04
          
          
            have helicopters in the air and
police
          
                  
            2:56:06
          
          
            on the ground all searching for
the
          
                  
            2:56:08
          
          
            fugitive 13 year old who for
now they're
          
                  
            2:56:11
          
          
            only identifying as Jericho w
even
          
                  
            2:56:14
          
          
            though he's a juvenile they're
taking
          
                  
            2:56:15
          
          
            the unusual step of releasing
his
          
                  
            2:56:17
          
          
            booking photo after he escaped
from the
          
                  
            2:56:19
          
          
            custody of state law enforcement
          
                  
            2:56:20
          
          
            officers Tuesday while
returning from
          
                  
            2:56:23
          
          
            juvenile court in Lumberton
state
          
                  
            2:56:25
          
          
            officials say he was wearing leg
          
                  
            2:56:26
          
          
            restraints and no shoes when a
guard
          
                  
            2:56:28
          
          
            opened a door and he ran police
say he
          
                  
            2:56:31
          
          
            was being held on serious
crimes accused
          
                  
            2:56:33
          
          
            of the fact we Marcus robbery
was
          
                  
            2:56:36
          
          
            detained say what
          
                  
            2:56:39
          
          
            disguise in chin leggings and
he's
          
                  
            2:56:41
          
          
            barefoot and he open the door
he takes
          
                  
            2:56:44
          
          
            off in the fat guard couldn't
chase him
          
                  
            2:56:47
          
          
            now sobbing death are you fat
shaming
          
                  
            2:56:51
          
          
            the guard here this is guard oh
no it
          
                  
            2:56:57
          
          
            may not even be fat maybe he's
too thin
          
                  
            2:56:58
          
          
            he can't run I don't know just
I find
          
                  
            2:57:00
          
          
            this to be ludicrous
generalizing the
          
                  
            2:57:02
          
          
            guard population now and he ran
a big
          
                  
            2:57:06
          
          
            forgiveness he held on serious
crimes
          
                  
            2:57:08
          
          
            accused of two counts of first
degree
          
                  
            2:57:10
          
          
            murder and robbery with a
dangerous
          
                  
            2:57:12
          
          
            weapon they explained they have
a high
          
                  
            2:57:14
          
          
            degree of concern for the
safety of both
          
                  
            2:57:16
          
          
            the juvenile and the public due
to a
          
                  
            2:57:19
          
          
            prior history of assaulted and
          
                  
            2:57:20
          
          
            unpredictable behavior his
family
          
                  
            2:57:23
          
          
            members say they've struggled
with the
          
                  
            2:57:24
          
          
            boy for years and tonight or
blaming
          
                  
            2:57:27
          
          
            authorities we don't know if
he's going
          
                  
            2:57:29
          
          
            to return to us dead or alive
the county
          
                  
            2:57:34
          
          
            spoke and they should have to
pay for it
          
                  
            2:57:37
          
          
            police are now warning
residents who
          
                  
            2:57:39
          
          
            live in the search area that
they may
          
                  
            2:57:41
          
          
            hear low-flying helicopters
through this
          
                  
            2:57:45
          
          
            evening oh wow so the kids gone
he sees
          
                  
            2:57:48
          
          
            Ferrell yeah with leggings and
bare feet
          
                  
            2:57:52
          
          
            and he's on his way
          
                  
            2:57:54
          
          
            the this is housing another
candidate
          
                  
            2:57:56
          
          
            for the dr. Phil show well I
think it's
          
                  
            2:57:59
          
          
            just this a sign of things to
come feral
          
                  
            2:58:01
          
          
            humans are in our future I'm
pretty sure
          
                  
            2:58:03
          
          
            of that get used to him they
still have
          
                  
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            chains
          
                  
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            that is our show for today
extra long
          
                  
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            double the flavor and we love
          
                  
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            deconstructing for you we'll do
it again
          
                  
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            on Sunday I will be back in the
          
                  
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            opportunity zone 33 looking
forward to
          
                  
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            be back with the keeper I'm
very lonely
          
                  
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            and she is too and coming to
you from
          
                  
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            just off runway two-seven here
at
          
                  
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            Schiphol Airport in the Gitmo
nation
          
                  
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            lowlands also known as
Amsterdam where
          
                  
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            you cannot buy weed with a
credit card
          
                  
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            that's against the law in the
morning
          
                  
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            everybody I'm Adam curry what
yeah first
          
                  
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            northern Silicon Valley being
stunned by
          
                  
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            the new fact I'm John C Devorah
it pays
          
                  
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            to listen all the way to the
end of the
          
                  
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            show of people coming up next
on our
          
                  
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            agenda stream comm we got hogs
story 49
          
                  
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            enjoy that and we return on
Sunday
          
                  
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            remember us at Dvorak org slash
a and a
          
                  
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            and until then adios mofos
secret agent
          
                  
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            Paul and Chris Wilson end of
show mixes
          
                  
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            when this trend is long
          
                  
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            so what
          
                  
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            yourself
          
                  
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            shaming Jews
          
                  
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            [Music]
          
                  
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            there's a Starbucks hating on
black guys
          
                  
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            they tried to have a meeting
but had no
          
                  
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            intent to buy there's a
Starbucks one of
          
                  
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            these but guys he tried to use a
          
                  
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            bathroom but they said he was
tonight
          
                  
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            oh well they were asked to exit
but they
          
                  
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            both possessed and so they got
arrested
          
                  
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            adios mofo for at dot org slash
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