November 14th, 2019 • 2h 56m
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Adam curry this is no agenda in
the
morning everybody
I'm Adam curry and from
Northern Silicon
Valley where I'm waiting for it
to
become beachfront property I'm
John C
Dvorak and you shouldn't be
reading your
email before the show oh you
saw that
note and of course I did as
always
someone will come in and tell
you that
you're wrong you're wrong
Dvorak you're
wrong
and then I realized suddenly
this
morning I realized you're the
guy from
the cartoon
okay yeah you're the guy from
that
cartoon announcing the strippers
what guy you haven't seen the
latest
from no I had not seen this oh
my
goodness
the whole club 33 Ravens
sequence is
there it's not the one where
they burn
the place down
no no no it's just when I'd so
what I'd
like to see Wow yeah there's a
lot more
to that one but you're really
good and
you're the star of the show
really good yeah and we have
over a
thousand subscribers now on the
youtubes
apparently that's good
G she has a thousand subscribe
well
that's true yeah but apparently
that's
really good
apparently that's when the
algos kick in
and then you get well go what
yeah and
then you get fight reality and
you're
all over ten then you have to
go to L go
then you have to go to 100,000
subscribers to get time yeah
and you go
no I think big boys and then
the big
bill and then and then you get D
platform that's how it goes
well I could
but by then we should be on
Netflix
and as a general rule now every
single
time I tweet out or retweet one
of those
videos of No Agenda animated
Studios I
always do hashtag Netflix
I'm Amazon's got money too and
so does
apparently now we have a new I
don't
know what to call him but it
took it
over the CEO of HBO and move
them over
to Apple yeah see now is he
gonna run
the the Apple TV stuff I guess
so you
know there's they have a bunch
of shows
the advertiser Munt television
they have
a whole slew of shows there's
one with
Jennifer Aniston it was at one
of the
Apple presentations they're
gonna taste
right right original
programming that
nobody gets to watch I actually
would
almost get Apple TV just to
watch a
series with Jennifer Aniston
I'd like her yeah you've said
this
before in the show yeah she
lives answer
your denial about the fact that
she's a
next door neighbor Austin you
see me
uh-huh yeah exactly yes well
that would
be good and we could totally
snow those
guys with it yeah like like
they listen
like Eddy Cue is there's that
no but I
have Eddie's number I'll call
Eddie I
got some hot shit for you man
we got we
got the algos are triggered on
the
youtube you know they've got a
hundred
billion dollars to throw away
they might
as well and they're putting it
on
there's two or three shows
they're doing
it but I don't know how many
shows maybe
five there's a bunch of shows
there and
somebody's get to see any of
them yeah I
think it's more than five and
then a
couple movies aren't they doing
some
feature-length stuff as well I
didn't
hear that but why not yeah well
we'll
see we got to come up with a
budget
that's the problem
we gotta we gotta justify a
budget
because really you know the
budget is
almost a zero it's the three of
us Jen
making them yeah we're the
writers for
all practical purposes yes and
showrunners and producers yeah
let's yeah the writers it's not
a very
good position on any show
um it's lighter than almost all
TV shows
her writer all writers anyway
so else go
yeah I'm going over that so I
had the
funny line the other day I'm
going over
to I'm over at Whole Foods and
I'm
looking across the the next at
the next
person over the next checker
yeah and I
said I'm and I actually thought
this was
true
I said that's Salman Rushdie
who was
what who was checking or
packing the
bags
I've noticed that was not it
was just a
coach leaving okay yeah she
looks she
looks just like him I said yeah
but then
again everybody in Berkeley
looks like
Salman Rushdie got a big laugh
and then
I said and the men look even
worse and
you got run out of town you
sexist
misogynist douche
or not no no let's go don't
care if
you're actually pretty
lackadaisical
about anything so they got some
humor
still left in Berkeley that's
good to
know she could laugh she
laughed and
left and left and one of her
piercings
fell out of her mouth now
that's the
punchline
so the jetlag is still kind of
with me
taking a little bit longer on
that long
yeah but usually I can I think
that the
trip home is what really
screwed me up
because it took much longer
than it
should have so I didn't really
get into
the right rhythm so I'm you
know of
course yesterday you know all
the
build-up oh boy this is gonna
be it the
big show is coming to the TV
this is the
worst yeah we're going all the
way this
is it this is the impeachment
hearing
and it was it was so hard for
me to stay
awake certainly the first you
know our
two hours and I'm kind of
dozing off you
know because of the jetlag
but I keep getting awakened by
tweets
you can only guess what the
tweets were
from yesterday what
here we go what I'm gonna read
them to
you oh great
read the transcript the Dems
voted I
just lost it now where was it
that was
read the transcript that Dems
voted to
continue their impeachment sham
I need
your input complete the
impeachment poll
now all uppercase R all new
20/20
calendars have arrived my
amazing wife
Melania hand-picked each photo
get one
before they're gone
yes oh they so they put it back
in the
high gear oh yeah two times mad
oh yeah
this is a good one
2x match missing I don't know
the gods
what's the person do this
matching
missing President Trump wants a
list of
all donors who step up during
this
impeachment hoax
hurry donate in the next hour
president
Trump : Adam I noticed you
didn't step
up during the fake impeachment
hearings
3x match not just for you for
one hour
donate now 3x match just for me
it's
unlocked just for you just for
me so I'm
reading this to the keeper last
night
she says did you donate this is
the most
insulting thing in the world
donate to
anyone with this message this
is so
horrible but man that they are
pushing
3x match doing this is all camp
that
fundraising for the for the
Republicans
this is all Jared Kushner
that's one of
the reasons behind the
fundraising no we
talked about this this is win
read
that's the guys that does all
this now
that's Kushner might how could
you know
that most other words if I give
a dollar
I've given $3 that's great so
before we
get into the by the way before
we go
away from that okay the
Democrats used
this too and I've also seen it
elsewhere
and I've seen it at some public
radio
and I said well there we have
an unknown
donors gonna match everything
into
unless we don't get to if we if
we get
to ten thousand they'll double
it but
it's like they never say
there's a scam
going on it must be I mean
who's who's
and it says 3x match I mean
maybe some
guy whose name is 3x it's gonna
hand you
a match I don't know what this
is now I
find it highly sketchy
it should be investigated and
they you
think it should be I think it's
so
there's something yeah and they
use it
legit sounds illegal to me they
use bit
ly links which I don't like
either
so of course I did watch this
thing
sadly but it was crap weather
it was
freezing here it will actually
got a
little warmer today but we've
had 29
degrees overnight bad weather
so some of
the lead the lead up to this
was and I
really have reactions and some
things I
saw you have a couple of clips
I don't
know what they are but we'll
get to
those now and I can always
count on you
for bringing it but first I
didn't bring
anything I couldn't get good
clips you
brought what you could I knew
you would
bring something you bring
something bill
moyers was on the brine still
he's on
the Brian seltzer water show
going
really cuz he was on Democracy
Now and
his big thing is PBS you shut
down its
programming thought debate this
the
peace be hearings on 24/7 well
it kind
of contradicts that statement
in his
conversation with with the
seltzer kid
and of course that's a media
show so
talking about the media and I
finally
what I found most interesting
is that
they are discussing amongst
themselves
and I presume he considers
himself a a
journalist yeah a journalist a
newsman
what is he he's been a
broadcast news
guy mainly but a journalist for
50 years
he's really an old-timer so
we're
sitting there explaining left
he's a
very very progressive left
winger he's
always been yeah and what
they're
sitting there discussing is how
it's
their responsibility to well it
goes a
little bit beyond informing
surprise
surprise not just reporting but
and as
we know the pods honest truth
that
happens on podcasts all the
time he
usually gets edited out of the
mainstream things in this case
it was
left in as the truth always
wants to
come out on the eve of another
impeachment inquiry hearings
this week
do you fear for the country for
the
first time in my long life and
I was
born in the depression lived
through
World War
to have been a part of politics
and
government for all these years
now yes
for the first time because I
you know a
society a democracy can die of
too many
lies and we're getting close to
that
terminal moment unless we
reverse the
obsession with lies that are
being fed
around the country so will
people care
this week will will democracy
hold up
after this process will always
care and
we have to remember that we
need to
serve those people who will get
up in
the morning and watch the
hearings will
come home at night and watch the
hearings because they really
want to be
confused they won't they want
to be they
won't understand they will have
cut
through they they want they
want to be
want to be confused they want
they want
to be they won't understand
their lives
so we have to be we have to be
concerned
with them then we have to think
about
how do we reach the people who
don't
care how do we reach them how
do we let
them know about the lies they
want to be
confused yes it's exactly right
be confused confusing
statements such as
Eric's wall well you haven't
heard my
clip well no this is this is
not this is
a clip before before the
impeachment Oh
douche well looks like went to
that's
what's interesting we we've
discussed
many times that ambassadors are
appointees that political
appointees but
they're typically high-end
donors and
bundlers you know that's that's
only in
the choice spots yeah Oh in the
choice
professional Foreign Service
people
there in the places like
Ethiopia right
what would you
well then Ukraine I guess is
that that's
not a choice spot is it that's
a bad
spot to be perhaps ooh if you
like vodka
so small well has a different
view of
these appointees how important
is a quid
pro quo period in order for you
to make
your case in an article of
impeachment
it's an abuse of power to
remove an
ambassador for political
reasons because
you don't like what they're
doing for
political reasons it's a gross
abuse of
power if you ask a political
ally like
the Ukrainians to investigate
your
opponent it's a gross extreme
abuse of
power if you leverage a White
House
meeting which may not seem like
much to
us as Americans but to other
countries
that's the most important thing
again
it's an extraordinary abuse of
power if
you if you remove an ambassador
of the
way that I see he tried to say
unlawfully but even he can't
can justify
saying that unlawful or if you
remove an
ambassador of the river
president did
asked for investigations
leverage a
White House meeting and 391
million
dollars in taxpayer dollars
that's what
we're investigating all we can
say maybe
that's all bad but it's not
impeachable
well that's not America either
if we
allow that to happen
okay just not America our cares
yes yes this has been around I
don't
know what's wrong with this guy
he really doesn't even
understand basic
civics no he's a congressman it
did who
thinks that what these
ambassadors are
like Supreme Court justices
yeah well
this way I the way I saw this
yesterday
with the two witnesses who were
chosen
an ambassador a temporary
ambassador
acting ambassador and the deputy
assistant to the this is like
if you're
the deputy assistant to these
what the
hell was his title now can't
State
Department deputy assistant
what what is
deputy assistant if you get
coffee at
that level or what exactly is
the
identity of the assist no you
get your
together gets to assign who
gets to cost
Wow so you are you're above
most all
right so these are career
crania guy is
a career yeah and that is not a
plump
ambassadorship by any means you
said
that earlier you suggested it
the big
donors they get they get
england france
romatic ins the vatican choice
that is
like choice then there's Japan
Japan's a
guru Lee would be good
Russia's probably one that you
might
want it but this tends to be a
Singapore
Singapore it would be nice
Singapore be good I'd say Hong
Kong it'd
be fun I take Australia China is
probably a plum job but you
probably
have to be CIA yeah well China
as you
know is asshole Japan for sure
yeah all
right take us into the take us
into the
actual meeting job well you
know I was
gonna play a headache shift
clip where
he comes on he starts all over
so can I
make an observation is this is
this just
that I'm only seeing it now but
shifts
chair which is the chairman
chair is
bigger than all the rest
oh yeah it's a big giant chairs
is that
always that way for all of the
chairmen
chair people I believe so okay
but I
could be wrong cuz I
this was really noticeable I'd
I noticed
it too and not and thinking on
it I had
to consider the fact that maybe
this
isn't always the case because
why would
I notice this so much I mean
the chair
is really big how come I have a
huge
monster chair significantly
bigger so he
had his opening that went on
forever and
how it's important all this is
I then
the newness comes on and he
does his
opening which is a little more
reasonable and I thought and
newness
this is long too but I thought
the
beginning of the newness the
newness
opening the door I called the
opening of
the opening I thought was I
thought it
really summarized what's going
I think
he's right in a July open
hearing of
this committee following
publication of
the Moller report the Democrats
engaged
in a last-ditch effort to
convince the
American people that President
Trump is
a Russian agent that hearing
was the
pitiful finale of a three year
long
operation by the Democrats the
corrupt
media and partisan bureaucrats
to
overturn the results of the 2016
election after the spectacular
implosion
of their Russia hoax on July
24th in
which they spent years
denouncing any
Republican who ever shook hands
with a
Russian on July 25th they
turned on a
dime and now claim the real
malfeasance
is Republicans dealings with
Ukraine in
the blink of an eye were asked
to simply
forget about Democrats on this
committee
falsely claiming they had more
than
circumstantial evidence of
collusion
between President Trump and
Russians we
should forget about them reading
fabrications of Trump Russia
collusion
from the steel dossier into the
Congressional Record
we should also forget about
them trying
to obtain nude pictures of
trump from
Russian pranksters who
pretended to be
Ukrainian officials now are
those that
was the radio DJs
to call that chef that's right
bit we
should forget about them
leaking a false
story to CNN while he was still
testifying to our committee
claiming
that Donald Trump jr. was
colluding with
WikiLeaks and forget about
countless
other deceptions large and
small that
make them the last people on
earth with
the credibility to hurl more
preposterous accusations at
their
political opponents and yet now
here we
are we're supposed to take
these people
at face value when they trot
out a new
batch of allegations but anyone
familiar
with the Democrats scorched
earth war
against president Trump would
not be
surprised to see all the
typical signs
that this is a carefully
orchestrated
media smear campaign
yeah well that I don't know if
you have
that but at a certain point he
said you
know you're now in the the
low-rent
sequel just is the Muller to
the Muller
movie and now you're the
leading roles
in this piece of crap
I mean it was really
disappointing I was
expecting at least some
fireworks but
they had poorly cast actors
there was no
script or at least there was a
script
but not were the with a plot
that made
any sense it was just the
tension arc
was all wrong there was nothing
the only
thing I liked was having
professional
lawyers whose name is counsel
he had a
little name named Sonic I'm
discounsel
then that guy for the
Republicans he
looked like a horrible asshole
a shark
man I like that those guys did
that
least that's some courtroom
questioning
that felt a little good you
know bomb
put a bomb and then you could
even see
the guy getting a little
flustered Aziz
it was still it was it was a
very bad
television show yeah and then
to put it
on anything besides c-span
three yeah
that was that was telling when
they put
it on c-span three you know
that even
when c-span's not even making it
primetime
you know you've got a dud
so they so here's the newness
and his
unanswered questions I thought
this was
kind of poignant it kind of
made some
sense it was part of his
opening and I
want to play it we should not
hold any
hearings at all until we get
answers to
three crucial questions the
Democrats
are determined to avoid asking
number
one who killed Jeffrey Epstein
what is
the full extent of the
Democrats prior
coordination with the
whistleblower and
who else did the whistleblower
coordinate this effort with
second what
is the full extent of Ukraine's
election
Medellin against the Trump
campaign and
third why did rese ma hire
hunter Biden
and what did he do for them and
did his
position affect any US
government
actions under the Obama
administration
these questions will remain
outstanding
because Republicans were denied
the
right to call witnesses that
know these
answers I have because they
couldn't
find a list and I tried I must
have
gotten by me because I probably
can't
doubt more than once trying to
listen to
this thing
yeah was this quid pro quo that
wanted
that apparently the ambassador
said
there's no squid pro quo where
is that
if anyone ever finds that I
will take it
and then you know you don't you
don't
have that clue I don't have it
either I
thought you had it good finite
guy tried
and tried because I heard it
and then
you tweeted like oh the only
thing is a
squid program or no use the
newsletter
this is squid I'm like oh good
he's got
the squid proko clip but I
never said I
had it but what kind of what if
you hear
something like this
do you if you hear this you
must clip I
didn't hear it I only heard of
it oh you
didn't hear it oh I'm sorry
okay one so
when I went to go find it I
fell asleep
probably most of the time and
then I
couldn't hear it so I never got
so if
anybody has it will run it
later but I
do have this somebody found
this little
gem and it you had to hear it
you hear
it in here's a little faux pas
some
stupidity here is a swallow well
grilling he grills everybody
but you
never Trumper you and ever
Trumper you
and ever Trumper you knows like
Oprah
and you're a never Trump and
you're a
never Trump er just about an
hour before
the two of you sat down to
testify today
the president tweeted multiple
times
about this hearing and he put
in all
caps never Trump errs mr. Kent
are you a
never Trump er I am a career non
professional who serves whatever
president is duly elected and
carries
out the foreign policies as that
president I am an Android I am
a robot I
will do as I am elected and
carries out
the foreign policies of that
president
in the United States and I've
done that
for 27 years for three
Republican
presidents and two Democrat
presidents
ambassador Taylor are you and
ever
Trumper no sir
well what was wrong with that
he says instead of saying I'm a
career
nonpartisan oh I didn't even
hear that
he says I'm a career non
professional oh
just about an ally before the
two of you
sat down to testify today the
president
tweeted multiple times about
this
hearing and he put in all caps
never
Trump errs mr. Kent are you a
never
Trump er I am a career non
professional
who serves whatever a president
is
Dalila
I do have the eye so great I
saw I am a
career non professional now end
of show
boom done Nayla wait when
they're
appropriate I'd love to hear
them but so
far it's top of the list yes
well as the
only one I'm a career non
professional
what is the what ambassador
they say
that was like a robotic speech
you
nailed and that's why she made
that
Gaffney this plot right through
it
you know yeah you know he's
obviously
not never Trump because he
wouldn't deny
it I'm giving you a borderline
for that
actually come on you and I
don't do any
work we just sit here and look
at email
and watch TV everybody knows it
everybody ambassador Taylor
slipped up
another and this may be a theme
today
the truth wants to come out
once again
my question ambassador Taylor
the
president conditioning security
assistance on an investigation
into his
political opponent prior to this
administration is this
something we
would do all the time no sir
why not we condition assistance
on
issues that will improve our
foreign
policy serve our foreign policy
use
ensure that taxpayers money is
well
spent those are the end and
those
conditions are either coming
from the
Congress or from policy
decisions
stemming from Authority
Congress has
given us to make sure that the
taxpayers
money is well spent or
that the receiving company
country takes
the actions in our now you know
that's
what's happening you know that
they're
sending money to companies
yeah the receiving company and
you know
that it's is this exactly your
brain
unless that's what's going on
yeah and then this one was I
thought
this was interesting because
it's a
legal thing as you know I I'm
taking the
bar next month so I'm always
interested
in these types of legal
opinions this is
representative Quigley Quigley
home
rewind quickly for a second I
guess too
closed primer on hearsay I
think the
American public needs reminded
that
countless people have been
convicted on
hearsay because the courts have
routinely allowed and created
needed
exceptions to hearsay hearsay
it can be
much better evidence and then
direct as
we have learned in painful
instances and
it's certainly valid in it and
this is
dominate cuz none of those
exceptions
would apply to this testimony
now did
you understand any of this
about hearsay
being used and sometimes being
much more
powerful than direct evidence
well I
heard what he said and what he
what he
was saying is because these two
witnesses were both basing
everything on
hearsay and later it turns out
at least
according to one source I saw
on Twitter
so it's not I haven't confirmed
this but
apparently the the ambassador
later home
via when most of his
information came
from the New York Times another
another
clip that I was going to get
but figured
you had it because you tweeted
I'm
unfollowing you and blah you
know I'm
gonna blossom I'm gonna blow
yeah but
when you note block when you
actually
commented on I'm like oh he's
got that
clip too I I'm I'm making an
ass of
myself when you assume yes I'm
making an
ass out of you and me I agree I
have
learned my lesson
so that which is a possibility
that he
just got all the stuff in the
New York
trances what else he said this
in the
hearing he said york times i
think what
you got was i pointed out to
this is an
old spook trick yes is where
you plant
something in a in a in a
newspaper
usually overseas but you can do
it in
the united states now you plant
some
bogus story in the New York
Times which
sources you know close people
in people
with knowledge of the situation
and you
put that in there you had this
guy reads
the New York Times he reads New
York
Times they grill him about it
at the
hearing he says yeah well the
way I
heard it the Trump was out to
get this
guy and then he says he read
the New
York Times he never says he
ready
testimony
but most of his testimony if it
all came
from the New York Times he's
not gonna
say well according to New York
Times
according to New York Times
he's just
gonna say what he thinks yes
but and
then the New York a nice picks
it up and
says confirmed yeah which is
the old
exactly then they say see
confirmed he
said it he said what would they
forget
to mention that he read it in
their in
their newspaper yeah there's an
old
trick and it works well and
it's in the
people fall for it and nobody
just a bit
nobody's the wiser so it came
up in the
conversation that there was
this is all
secondhand information that he
has note
he never heard this from Trump
he never
heard this from anybody at all
no he
read it someplace and so then
this guy
comes out to the clip you have
comes out
and starts defending hearsay
but he
makes the mistake of saying
hearsay is
better much better much better
what do you know are you up
there do you
have a chair a big chair no
stupid
citizen be quiet
the current Democratic nominee
for
presidential race is Joseph
Biden and
was asked to provide some
reaction no
we're not sure well did he
watch did he
not watch let's hear what and
these are
actual journalists who are
querying I
think if you listen to and I
think it's
only two women that I can hear
they they
sound like they really feel sad
for Joe
you'll hear it
[Applause]
you see like you know how some
man
so the question did you what
did you
think well I didn't see it or
heard it
was pretty devastating how so
will you
watch that you know why and
then they
just go they sound like oh poor
guys
insane yes he's senile yeah
uncle
because clearly he's full of
crap
clearly he did he has no idea
he just
said I was pretty devastating
which
everyone knows it wasn't
devastating
whatever you took away from it
well
there was a dimension be split
here
because I I was reading might
follow a
number of people the head of
the DNC and
there's a bunch of these
Democrats and
you read their tweets it's like
all the
Dresden's toast he was he was
ruined by
all right well then he then
you're
reading what Joe's reading
that's over
then I understand this
impression but at
least but at least you said
well I read
some tweets it was devastating
Joe
doesn't even go that far he's a
gay you
watch didn't you stupid
journalist two
weeks be over and then I caught
this on
one America news of all places
with the
the presenter that I'm not
particularly
a fan of he had the blonde boy
kind of
like the the low-rent Tommy
Lehren
that's that's the way I look at
it just
talking as a TV executive
people okay
and she has some dude on and
he's done a
Freedom of Information Act
request for
anything the State Department
might have
regarding hunter Biden and it
turns out
oh why yes there is something
that the
State Department has its
request all
right Josh talk to me about
this we can
show this email on the screen
by the way
these are emails obtained using
FOIA the
Freedom of Information Act that
show
lobbyists for Buri smut wanting
to get
in contact with the Obama
administration
using hunter Biden's name isn't
this
exactly what the Biden's have
denied
happened the short answer to
that lays
is yes
I mean FOIA is a hell of a drug
a FOIA
litigation and then the federal
courts
is oftentimes crazy just
because of what
it ends up divulging and this
no different than that the
timeline here
is pretty crazy it looks like
one month
before Joe Biden pressured
Ukraine to
fire this put this prosecutor
who was
looking into Brees mah
literally one
month before that verismo was in
communication with US State
Department's
trying to get a meeting and
they were
expressly name-dropping hunter
Biden as
a reason to get that meeting
not only is
everything that you just said
true not
only did they name drop hunter
Biden to
try to get a meeting with the
Obama
administration State Department
they
expressly said they wanted to
talk about
corruption investigations into
burry
smih exactly what Joe Biden
ended up
doing for them in that video
that we've
all seen a hundred times where
he brags
about a quid pro quo getting
you know
the Ukrainian president to fire
the
prosecutor who was investigating
Purisima the board the company
on which
his son sat on a board that's
what this
email expressed that the the
lobbyist
said that's what they wanted to
talk
about so I'll I'll explain what
she said
without the yelling but there's
nothing
to do with how she looks it's
just it's
just though yelling so there's
a under
the presentation skills' or not
right
she's not she should back off
yeah just
tone it down 80% you'd be fine
yeah and
blink blink once that Jambo
Jambo stuff
will do it to her yeah but you
know so
this this FOIA request shows
that
barista did indeed say hey we
want out
we want a meeting with a
regarding this
this prosecutor that you guys
want to
you know that that we think we
should
get rid of and you know by the
way
hunter Biden's on our board we
have
other prominent board members
and that's
I believe in the timeline a day
or two
before Joe did the famous hey
you know
remove that prosecutor that
seems at
least to me it seems like that's
something someone could jump on
but no
it's on one American news
that's that's worse than a
podcast
that's that's nothing video
podcast
let's face it yeah so I'm you
know these
are just little data points I'm
sure
this everybody has some opinion
about
everything but it's just boring
it's a
bad show and a waste of time
not that
we're unhappy doing it cuz that
is what
we do so you don't have to but
and you
know there was really nothing
in that
this just it was nudnik
senseless just
no story no not these things
are all
show anyway bring Norman Lear
in if you
have to bring somebody in to
produce
this for you get a rundown
stupid once again and this is
one clip
that I was not taking a chance
as you
wouldn't have it
this was Emma Barnett on BBC
who had a
sit-down half-hour interview
with
Hillary and Chelsea the gutsy
women book
was being promoted and I know
you read
the headline did you hear the
interview
I did not that brings me nicely
on as a
gutsy woman Hillary do you feel
you have
unfinished business in politics
well I do as a activist
advocate a
citizen no no I know I know
exactly what
what you meant but I I can only
answer
with what I mean which is I'm
gonna keep
speaking out you know there are
those
who say go away don't say
anything and
that's just not going to happen
say go
away don't say anything and
that's just
not going to the woods that
your dog
yeah exactly and never come out
that is
not going to happen look I feel
a sense
of responsibility really I had
to listen
to it three times to hear
what's going
on because you just listen to
it and you
hear what she's saying and it's
exciting
what she's saying but when you
really
get down to when she uses past
tense and
present tense it gets very
interesting
not going to happen look I feel
a sense
of responsibility partly
because you
know my name was on the ballot
I got
more votes but ended up losing
to the
current incumbent in the White
House who
I think is really undermining
our
democracy in very fundamental
ways and I
want to retire him I was did
you say
something yeah was just stopped
sure I
want to just ask you a question
she went
when Hillary lost and she come
out and
say she's gonna do everything
she can to
help this president succeed
do we have videotape well I
think
there's probably an old clip of
it but
hmm you remember that no I
should
remember it no I really don't
remember
oh yeah
okay we'll go on you know I if
I knew
how to find the clip I would
know don't
worry about it this is
impossible too
many years by the way she's not
talking
about the president she's
talking about
the current incumbent in the
White House
because God forbid she say
president the
White House who I think is
really
undermining our democracy in
very
fundamental ways and I want to
retire
him I want to see him retired
so I'm
going to be helping our side
try to put
together the strongest possible
campaign
which will be difficult oh you
guys run
again no no no I'm that is that
is a
hundred percent so in a few
days I'm
gonna open my newspaper well
you know I
never say never to anything I
know it's
way past time now okay let's
let's em
I'm gonna analyze this because
I have
heard it several times she was
ready for
the question
so she was ready to say no but
then when
the Emma Barnett starts
questioning a
little further it's it spills
out like
diarrhea 100% so in a few days
I'm gonna
put my newspaper well you know
I'd never
say never to anything I know
it's way
past time no she knows it's way
past
time so what what Emma said
there very
quietly in the background was
you know
you kind of have to you know
register in
a couple of states Hillary's
well aware
that is that is a hundred
percent so in
a few days I'm gonna put my
newspaper
well you know I never seen
anything I
know it's way past time but you
know I I
look I think all the time about
what
kind of president I would have
been him
all right now listen to the
tents change
from I would have been and to
the
present I look I think all the
time
about what kind of president I
would
have been and what I would have
done
differently and what I think it
would
have meant to our country in
the world
so of course I think about it I
think
about it all the time being you
know
being able to do that and look
whoever
wins next time is being able to
do that
she goes would have would have
would
have would if I think about it
all the
time be not
if I were able not what it
would be like
if I had been able had been
able know a
point to have a really and what
I think
it would have meant to our
country in
the world so of course I think
about it
I think about it all the time
being you
know being able to do that and
look
whoever wins next time I think
about it
all the time being able to do
that being
able to do that and look
whoever wins
next time is going to have a
big task
trying to fix everything that's
been
broken how would you feel if in
the last
48 hours or so while she's on
this trip
in the UK mom decides now
listen to how
Chelsea expertly I might add
puts Emma
Barnet in her place like shut
up this is
my mom I do what she wants I am
her
protector just throw her hat
fucking
well I'm always in her corner
am I so so shut up you know
whatever she
decides to do on any given day
I'm here
to support and love her but you
my most
important my most important
role in life
now is as a mother Wow expert
expert
deflection she's very good
Chelsea she's
much better than I thought she
was at
this is not subtle what she
said - this
Emma well I'm always gonna
support my
mom Emma Emma
she's running John this woman
is running
many many people many many
people want
her to run all kinds of pressure
many people I love it no that's
fantastic
it's fantastic and then she
added one
little I thank you DeLuca gachi
that you
nailed and this was that when
the time
that Hillary was familiar with
the
deadline to the point where she
knew
that she'd missed a number of
well she's
only missed a couple but she's
not gonna
take Iowa and New Hampshire
anyway she
doesn't dislike be even
Bloomberg who is
running or claims to be he's
back in the
race he says he doesn't want to
run in
New Hampshire what's the point
you you
have to run against a couple of
New
Englanders up there they're
gonna
whoever wins New Hampshire well
it
doesn't matter you don't need
to win New
Hampshire's not that many votes
involved
Hillary knows like no other how
to
manipulate the super-delegates
and it's
what she did with Brussels she
screwed
Bernie
she was screwing Bernie was very
successful and I mean it's it's
a it's a
sawed off term but brokered
convention
comes to mind
even that could happen
the problem that you have is
the way I
don't think you know the number
of
people have come up with this
thesis
that this is going to go to the
convention it's gonna be
deadlock
between two or three people
that's why
they're not getting rid of
Bernie
they're gonna keep them in
there cuz
it'll get a lot of votes we'll
get a lot
of wins and then Warren will
get a lot
of votes you'll get a lot of
wins and
those are the two that are
gonna get
most of the votes and wins and
they have
to make the assumption there's
not going
to be that one of them I think
that's
probably a good assumption cuz
I could
kind of make it to that one of
them's
not gonna run away with it but
they're
also risking the the
possibility that
one of them is going to run
away with it
and one of them could be Bernie
well the
Democrats do not want Bernie
and they
then they don't actually want
Warren
either right how about I don't
know what
this idea this is pretty risky
if you're
gonna go for a brokered
convention but
you can never bring Hillary in
at the
last minute it just gonna look
fishy
yeah I think we need one more
person he
has to run to some she's gonna
have to
throw her hat in the ring and
she's
gonna have to run I think South
Carolina
she can win mm-hmm she went any
of this
other states easily if she gets
in in
time to do that that she can
easily win
California hmm so she'd get
California
New York all the southern states
probably picked up Washington
State and
Morrigan she could easily win
the whole
thing or or at least get it to
the point
where if there was a brokered
convention
it would go to her easily but it
wouldn't look like she cheated
and got
in at the last minute which is
what a
lot of these theorists are
starting to
say oh you don't know what's
true you
know wait to the end the very
end she's
gonna jump in that's no that's
not gonna
work well
satori hat in the ring and she
has to do
it before South Carolina at
least and I
don't know what the deadline is
for
South Carolina I'm gonna have
to look it
up how about this it's coming
up how
about this Deval Patrick who is
now
apparently gonna jump into the
race
Patrick is an interesting
character
because I spotted him years
he's got the packaging Roy I'll
tell you
he's got black president oh
yeah I
thought this years ago before
he fell
out it off the scene and then
Cory
Booker kinda stole his fire do
you
imagine being Deval Patrick and
having
Cory Booker stealing fire yeah
Cory
Booker took over word Deval
Patrick left
off the vol Patrick is a
tremendously
erudite well spoke all racist
if he's
erudite and well spoke and if
his white
guides say the same thing you
don't
understand racism John you don't
understand yes I can't say
anything
complimentary about this guy
but the
fact is he is extremely
appealing yes I
think Morgan I always thought
he was
more appealing than Obama ever
was well
he's the real deal he's he's
actually
run something I mean this this
he's
actually running a government
yeah he's
the real T Massachusetts yeah
but why he got sight by the way
they
pushed him off over the side or
what I
don't know I don't get it I
don't think
he can do it well not gonna put
another
black they're not gonna run
another
black male
they'd have to work real hard
email they
have to get their rules and Joe
Biden
fits the ticket exactly well
Joe by yeah
allow me to take a small
sidestep since
we came to sweet we stumbled
upon racist
comments and I called racism
because it
is and I and I have proof that
what you
said he's erudite and
well-spoken is
just because he's a black man
is racist
and I have proof but if there's
a white
guy we wouldn't be racist
correct correct cuz cuz Joe
Biden is not
erudite now and Joe Biden is not
well-spoken that's does that
make him a
black man no
on waters world which I'd never
watch
but this came up on the mo
facts show on
waters world he had a
sociologist a PhD
so a professor of sociology I
guess
sociologists professor of
sociology and
this is a little bit back it
was about
the math being racist which of
course is
is is nuts and so this is not
so much
about the math being racist but
about
the definition of racism and it
came out
in such a beautiful way that I
need to
share it tell me why math is
racist
doctor yes so you funny on
November 6
2016 I was at a conference on
statistics
and I raised my hand and I was
like are
you telling me statistics are
racist and
that was what almost three
years ago and
I was really confused when I
asked the
question and spent years
reading about
many different things have you
Jesse
read native son which I gave
you last
time we met I read it in high
school but
I have not reread it since the
last time
you gave it to me but what does
that
have to do with his math racist
so the
critical race theory and is a
framework
for understanding the world
that helps
us understand that this entire
country
is racist right we have a white
supremacist Tests racial caste
system in
the United States are you
saying that
all white people in America are
racist
yeah I am too sometimes it
happens we
were socialized right the
process of
socialization you're learning
about
social norms
so you're racist you're a racist
occasionally it happens I
usually
apologize it when I realize it
how are
you a racist what do you think
makes you
superior
Josie that question doesn't
make sense
well isn't racism the belief
that one
race is inherently superior
than another
race and then you discriminate
against
other races that is a piece of
racism
but you gave the definition
that's
really old and language evolves
over
time supremacy
what are we race and white
supremacy
today yeah okay they are
structures that
affect us all so people do
things that
are racist all the time myself
included
because we don't realize that's
happening okay do you
understand John do
you understand how I can easily
say that
you said in every show and you
got I
could say the same thing course
but this
is this is the thinking and she
just
said it right there that's an
old
definition sad
merriam-webster's Webster
no one has updated the
definition
because it has to include the
element of
feeling superior over another
race and
this is just nuts but there you
have it
it's the definite language
changes shut
up
I don't know what the long-term
point of
it is that you want to make
sure that
all whites are racists yes I
know the
boy no I'm father let me
restate that
I'm not sure what the point is
to make
all whites races what is the
point is
there free money control
control control
over what you can say and even
what you
can within us then it goes
right back to
your old thesis which is this
is really
a free speech issue of course
it is yeah
well that's why we get letters
condemning us for even
suggesting that
the global warming nonsense is
overstated and it is part of a
control
mechanism I was not gonna do
this now
but I think I should take us
right I
leave I have solved vocal fry'
I know what I nearly had vocal
fry no I
didn't say it cured it I said
I've
solved the mystery of vocal fry
why it
is done and why in particular
young
women do it but before we do
that let's
take a moment and talk about
the T
glottal ization
I don't know how you make this
jump by
the way well because it's also
about
women young women in particular
but also
young people who are changing
speech
patterns vocal fry' as a speech
pattern
dropping T's is a speech
pattern we were
just told by this woman that
we're old
and are thinking when it comes
to the
words we use where everything
we say is
racist this is this is
something being
pushed on us and I so does that
seem
like really such a big jump yes
it does
but go on
okay well for the T glottal
ization it
is more of what you just heard
language
changes shut up and I went to
the expert
on this when you want to know
something's going on with
language and
speech you go to grammar girl a
study in
the journal American speech
examining
the dialect of Vermonters
noticed that
some traditional pronunciations
were
disappearing cow for cow for
example is
declining but that the dropping
T's is
increasing the researchers
spotted it in
pronunciations like mountain for
mountain never Mon for Vermont
have you
heard someone say Vermont no in
another
study conducted in the western
United
States researchers found that
young
female speakers were more
likely to use
glottal stops than other groups
they
studied the researchers
suggested their
findings may indicate that a
broader
change in pronunciation is
afoot they
noticed that quote the
literature on
sociolinguistic change is
replete with
studies in which young women
are on the
cutting edge of language change
unquote
and that's no surprise to
people who
borrowed phrases like as if and
way
harsh from movies like clueless
and
Legally Blonde now this is
interesting
because what she just said is
that
people pick that up from a
movie and I
would say I would wager that as
Earth
isn't really used anymore so it
was not
a change it was a temporary fad
like was
up also coming from media so I
call
bullshit
they're on grammar girl but
okay an
answer to the biggest question
what I didn't understand what
you said
she said that young women okay
well
here's what she said go back is
replete
with studies in which young
women are on
the cutting edge of language
change
young women are on the cutting
edge of
language change and then
instead of well
look what developed in this
with this
particular group of women no
she's now
going to say that they heard it
on a
movie unquote and that's no
surprise to
people who borrowed phrases
like as if
and way harsh from movies like
clueless
and Legally Blonde well hold on
yeah
those movies are written
usually by
Hollywood writers and they're in
Hollywood and they you're not
dreaming
as if they're not the writers
that wrote
the movie that uses as the F
one of the
movies was a dozen of them
didn't they
got it from the street yes sure
they did
but is the women driving the
women were
driving the writing but it went
away
okay my point is it didn't
stick people
still don't don't this that was
that's
not a fundamentally a lot of a
dipstick
a lot of stuff statistics
such as
well I think as if is if a lot
of it
okay doesn't stick permanently
but some
of this because what you're
gonna
because the examples I'm coming
up with
in my head or stuff that I know
is kind
of come and gone but but the
valley
girls speak in general people
don't do
that anymore it's now
persiflage okay in
answer to the biggest question
of all
why are people dropping their
t's we
have a disappointing answer
nobody
really knows we have a nobody
you really
know is standard pronunciation
across a
region even a country changes
gradually
and is affected by countless
untold
causes in the 400 years since
English
settlers first came to North
America
what we call a British accent
morphed
into an American accent and
that accent
in turn birth to countless
others from
the distinct dialects we hear
in New
York City and Dallas to the
ones we hear
in New Orleans in Minneapolis T
globalization can sound grading
or
Slaney to some listeners today
but some
day it may be the way all of us
speak
and by that time that's driving
everyone
to distraction this even calls
it a
pronunciation tick okay this
does lead
into this outstanding
deconstruction I
don't think this guy even knew
what he
was doing producer Joe sent me
to this
this is a youtuber from the
UK's name is
screen name wings of pegasus
and he's
deconstructing Patsy Cline's
voice which
has a I didn't even really
think about
it but there is vocal fry' in
her voice
and he's going to explain well
I say I'd
left out a lot but to create
vocal fry'
you know you're actually
blowing you're
using very little air very
little diet
push from your diaphragm
to get that yeah you sound like
a frog
that's the way frogs make that
sound
right but you're decided and
she was
able to go crazy yes she would
go in and
out of that and he says that
while I'm
gonna play the clip that that
vocal fry
is part of what made her not
just unique
but so incredibly successful
and in his
deconstruction I think he
reveals the
reason why women in
particularly in
particular young women have
this are
using this voice technique the
other
thing that gives her such a
great
quality to her voice is that
vocal fry
and if you don't know what I'm
talking
about
it's the way that the vocal
cords come
together with minimal air in a
really
relaxed state if I'm going to
demonstrate it now I'm talking
with my
vocal cords coming together I'm
getting
a very definite connection and
that's
why I'm producing this noise
and if I
was to hold on a particular
note it
would always be there because
my vocal
cords are connected you might
find some
people who talk like this they
go well I
just told like this because
it's the
most relaxed way of talking and
Patsy
Cline when she sings she has
that
control of her vocal cords so
that she's
just beyond vocal fry' but then
can just
end her lines with that and to
explain
this further when babies cry a
great
example because babies don't
know that
they're using their voice the
most
efficient way possible because
it's
automatic it's ingrained it's
just the
way it is used when you're a
baby you
can't think about diaphragmatic
support
and chest voice and head voice
and
falsetto so when a baby cries
it always
has vocal fry' in there so you
get a wow
wow wow and it's that ah at the
end
there is the vocal fry so
having that
control of your voice means
that you can
connect to an audience
because there is a cry in your
voice and
as humans we are hot-wired to
respond to
a babies cry because of
evolution that
everything about us is ensuring
the next
generation so if a baby's
crying there's
something wrong you have to
make it
right so if you can get that
quality in
your singing voice you are
gonna connect
at such a deep level almost a
level that
is human that is intrinsic
within all of
us and we don't even know that
it's
there but when we hear it we
know that
sound I know it's a stretch but
when I
heard this my thinking
immediately went
to well yeah if you do this
particularly
to a woman it may be as a as a
woman it
triggers something at a very
deep
reptilian level of maybe in you
there's
more connection more engagement
it
sounds import and you know
Britney
Spears is almost nothing but
vocal fry'
and her of singing sure you
know and
she's very popular yeah no
kidding
Daniel maybe maybe add a little
data
point about women not having
children
when they're young so maybe
there's even
some heightened awareness in
the just in
their entire it's in their DNA
and you know to certain ages
and they
hear the fry and they're just
drawn to
it and I'm not saying people
are doing
it on purpose but the the
response that
they're getting is much more
leaning
forward deeper engagement
particularly
from women when women are doing
this now
there's I don't have the clip
again I
babble today's show is a epic
fail and
so far as my flips but I'm not
talking
about clips I didn't clip oh my
god we
have it on the next show for
sure cuz I
made sure to put it aside
there's a
woman reading her own biography
on this
bitch slut floating around and
she her
whole voice is vocal fry' it's
worse
it's beyond
Jill I would real be on Jill so
much
that goes beyond Jill but okay
it's I
thought the same thing one of
our
producers sent it to me and I
said no no
but nothing's beyond Jill but
it was
beyond Jill including the lung
and he
said go out forever hold on
obviously I
read the New York Times like
all day
long
mainly on my iPad app this
woman is
doing the same thing and I just
retweeted it this is a week or
so ago i
retweeted it saying yeah this is
terrible this is beyond Jill or
something like along those
lines in a
whole bunch of hate came my way
oh yeah sure followers just
people I
don't know where do they come
on good
works yeah they're all writers
female
mostly young adult yaa as it's
called in
the business mm-hmm mostly why a
writer's young adult fiction
writers and
they were all women and they
were all
women we're defending the vocal
fry'
girl and I'm thinking this and
one of
them was the common was I don't
see what
you listening to you know they
do coming
out our voices not commenting
on her
content which is not true if
you think
of McLuhan desk because
commenting on on
every I mean everything is part
of the
message yeah yeah there's a
message that
was a message in the mediums a
message
and the voice is a message
everything's
a message so you know this all
part of
the communications system so
you can you
can do this it's legal to
criticize
somebody's voice I mean if they
sound
like Elmer Fudd and they're
reading
Shakespeare is part of the
message of
course yes so I have to now I
have to go
get this what the basic thesis
well the basic thesis is
outstanding and
it would make nothing but sense
to me
that women would start to pick
this
because they would get if you
start to
develop say this like the
glottal stop
and all the rest of it but
let's say
that you're a woman and you're
talking
in vocal fry' and other women
because of
the baby's trigger yeah and
they don't
have babies but they still get
triggered
by this because it's Primus
they get
triggered and they come closer
and they
want to listen to you more this
is why I
think I got so much flack for
condemning
this vocal fright in fact was
it her
message at all that was
attractive to
these women it was the fact
that this
woman has this crying going on
these are
women and thinking or crying
they're
crying and that we're making
fun of them
and by the way yes that is a
yeah these
are I don't want to say
pathetic but
these are women who are
literally crying
they're playing they're crying
as they
speak and that's where the
vocal fry is
and they're there asking for
help and
nobody's giving it to them and
said
we're here like a couple of
douche bags
call them out as idiots and the
way they
receive that is an attack
against
motherhood that's why it's so
vicious
and even though they don't know
it when
you say hey man that fry there
like you
so they're saying you can't do
this you
know who who are you old man
okay boomer
all that but then what they're
really
saying what they're saying in
their
heart is you don't care about
babies you
hate babies and that's what's
tricky
yes once again with Martin one
Nathan
ladies gentleness you know
agenda show
its how this is how the system
works our
producer send us something we
can
deconstruct it we break it down
we have
solve vocal fry' and now to put
it to
use for yourself because you
can totally
get an audience to listen to
you and I
think I have to do do more cry
maybe
that would be it maybe that's
where the
up talk comes in way well we
kept
talking to some similar wait I
want to
say something about the vocal
five so
you guys some woman has given
you a lot
of vocal fry' is setting
ridiculing her
like we tend to do we pretty
much
everything is go oh you poor
thing well
we now have an eye that in your
heart
it's not worth saying yours
your so you
must be so sad and miserable
it's no
longer vocal fry' its vocal cry
vocal
crime local crime now we
understand
and I think we if we pay
attention we
might learn in that particular
how other
women but men too of course I
mean I
respond to the sound of a baby
yeah
that's actually it's actually
not the
way I respond but some people
do yes if
you've had enough of them and
they're
still living in your house yeah
I
understand these I understand
that too
response and since I mention it
I think
we need to have an okay boomer
segment
on this show this is the this
is we need
a jingle for you a segment we
have okay
boomer okay boomer it's okay
with you
it's okay with me okay boomer
okay
boomer it's okay boomer know
that know
that but it will be the next no
agenda
animated show that's for sure
so the and now I have a
question because
boomer the cutoff is 1964 yeah
does that
mean if you're born in 1964
second half
of 1964 am I still a boomer or
is the
cutoff at the at the December
31st 63
well I think it has to be based
on the
end of World War two
whatever date that was that
would be the
date the cutoff date because
boomers
came right boomers technically
or the
right at the end of World War
two us
when boomers began no just the
beginning
but what's the could get me
yeah well
that would be this would be a
that would
be your fiscal year so the end
of World
War two whatever that date is
someone
could look it up well here's
what I
here's what I have boomers born
1946 to
1964 between okay between 54
and 72
years old
yeah
what you and you're gonna herb
that
you're like a late bloomer
a late bloomer no I just want
to know
who my people are John because
I want to
make sure why we get longer you
barely
made the cut man I'm like I'm
second
string boomer I just want to
make sure
that I can feel spoken to when
people
say okay boomer this actually
happens to
me now okay boomer telling and
what in
what universe did you wake up
and think
that that would insult me but
okay okay
boomer I think okay boomer is
and I like
it because I I do identify as a
second
string boomer I identify with
things
changing that I don't like
change it
from second stream this is a bad
attitude it's not second string
it's a
second way second way back
bencher let's
call I'm a backbencher boomer
so I'm on
the back bench but then I hear
what
they're doing with certain
things and
the boomer in me wants to
protest the
change to the ABC song which I
don't
know if this some derivative of
common
core or right yes so the ABC
song has
the older boomer mm-hmm the og
boomer
boomer oh gee I don't know this
but you
know the song of course ABCD
efg hijk
rst uvwxyz next time won't you
sing with
me ABCD
[Music]
F - thanks bye j k l m n o P Q
R tau W X
Y Z I want to shoot myself when
I hear
this this is not good for the
universe
we're out of balance with this
where did that come from Disney
oh they're trying to I don't
want to I'm
gonna say it you're trying to
fuck with
us they're trying to upset the
forces of
the universe is over there's
something
up with this well they can't do
that
or maybe man but change the
order maybe
John Mandela effect maybe it
was always
this way if we just don't
realize it in
that crazy where did you get
that
well someone sent it to me and
I was on
the on the youtubes and I can I
my
clipped it sure they didn't
show no no
no no no that'd be going too far
it's reprogramming of some
sorts I mean
yes when you say Disney is
effing with
us and you know I'm Way too
polite to
say the f-word I think you're
right I'm
not sure what it is but I mean
this is
almost like the three more days
till
Halloween till they're shamrock
it's
like they're gonna trigger
these kids
and gonna zombies gonna go and
kill
everybody I don't know this I
do not
like the chain and okay boomer
I don't
like this song the way they've
done it
I find it jarring
and what's the point what's the
point I
know always the point I know
the point
because they felt LMNOP was not
pronounced correctly or if we
went too
fast and therefore the the
letters l m n
o & p were getting gypped it
wasn't fair
to them somehow
well that's a stretch I don't
know LMNOP
we're getting gypped don't know
it's too
much Sesame Street it's it's a
bad deal
this whole thing is bad well
with that
nose got the rails but okay I'd
like to
thank you for your courage and
say in
the morning to you the man who
just put
the C and vocal cry in the
morning all
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Darrin Oh is doing that in the
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what
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brought this to
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know there's something there's
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I'm very
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about that
because I want everyone to be
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Darren it was Darren oh I knew
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good pieces and what and what
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say
Bolton and a black bar with the
letters
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obvious that it was him of
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that moustache there was
another one
which I believe comic strip
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which was just the mustache
which was
esoteric and and kind of cool
and I'd
like the way it I'd liked the
way it
played but I think we both
decided
unanimously that it would be a
good idea
to support our Handler Steve
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John
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known as anonymous of the book
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and so
we decided we'd be good players
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Lord's work doing great work
here people
get on it thank you very much
dare
knowing all our artists who
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people love going through that
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it's another great resource and
we have
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and if you like it it's tough
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and we have a number of it in
the in the
Texas that they came in their
word there
was a note that came in I
should have
read it during your your little
exposition on glottal stops
mm-hmm
because this is a letter that
came in
condemning you oh yay for not
talking
about what you just talked
about but the
timing was a little he I think
maybe
would complete but let me read
this okay
hi there John this is a written
a novel
it was stuffed in an envelope
by the way
I got it also somebody sent a
couple of
Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill
himself
bumper stickers who was J put
on her
Volkswagen no I want one yeah I
bet you
do you gonna put it on a bumper
yeah on
Tina's merriam-webster
dictionary for
the definition of glottal stop
Wikipedia
also has an entry for it
the missing T found sound in
important
is not being dropped it's being
replaced
by another consonant for which
there is
no letter in English the
glottal stop
which we just discussed
surprising or
not that the putative
linguistic expert
the painting on the clip was
unfamiliar
with the term and adopted your
dropping
the T description he added
nothing to
the conversation clearly nobody
likes
this guy no and he is not he's
not come
back into the I think he's
giving up on
the show that popped up during
my recent
search was the term that Adam
may like
glottal ization no one will stop
phenomenon at least a year ago
oh yeah
I'm I'm a dick but he's a busy
feller
and I must have missed it in
time must
have missed it entirely and
then he says
the creepin globalism has got
to stop
but isn't it isn't it got
ization you
can't set globalization it's
got to be
got ization if you wanted to be
modern
don't think so not hey now I'm
gonna
start reading I we get into the
donations I'm sorry I delayed
it but
there's a name mentioned in the
first
line of this that the guy wants
to be
anonymous I don't understand is
that him
or is that somebody else still
here I'm
what I'm what I think happened
but I'm
not sure so we cannot do it I
believe
anonymous who comes in from
China
Guangdong
wan-soo
this was as gwangsu guandong
yeah he's
in the state of gwaan don't I
like how
you yell at me when I do that
makes me
makes me feel loved and wanted
it makes
possible you forget yeah it's
possible
that he wanted to make someone
a night
oh I see cuz there's a new
Baker don't
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know and
Eric didn't market so and it's
not on
the list so I I don't believe
that this
is I don't think we should risk
it
particularly if someone's in
China it's
not a good idea to risk but we
are
having trouble cuz they follow
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listen to the show well they're
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Darren is still still hanging
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respond
in twice a second let me get
the help I
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second zephyr
just went by oh the economy is
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no the five dime really the
first ever
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time and another I think this
is the the
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or
something let me see what this
was nice
it was nine cars mm-hmm it
looked like
the Zephyr they very identical
looking
and something's amiss well
maybe well
let me see what do we have I
should get
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telling
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the more cars the better and
now you
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a minute
I just refreshed hmm no the dow
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well there are some homeless
news are we
do I have homeless news what
kind of
homeless news do you have well
I got two
clips here one of them just
look better
than the other but let's play
the first
one this is homeless report in
LA just
steps away from the Hollywood
Walk of
Fame a horrifying bucket of
diarrhea I
didn't want it to be in my
mouth but it
was running down my eyes for
over a year
the NBC 4 i-team has been
tracking
crimes where the suspects are
homeless
tonight we have learned those
incidents
are skyrocketing
investigative reporter Joel
Grover
reports on the growing threat
linked to
the untreated mental illness
and drug
addiction on LA's streets of
shame keep
your eye on the woman walking
out of
this apartment building a
homeless man
approaches and suddenly smacks
her in
the head
there are now thousands of
crimes a year
like this one in which the
suspects are
homeless and in many cases
suffering
from mental illness or
substance abuse
do you have the whole clip of
the woman
explained as she went I do down
crying
man the next clip is guy is
another
report just slightly different
yeah and
it's got the same woman
bitching about
being horrible some guy took a
well play
clip to avoid Van Tassel was
walking to
her car near Hollywood's Walk
of Fame
when according to police and
court
records a transient with
schizophrenia
and psychotic disorders dumped
feces all
over her a bucket of his
diarrhea
it was liquid hot liquid soap
and I
couldn't see it was coming off
of my
eyelashes into my eyes
paramedics rushed
her to the hospital and she now
needs to
be tested for infectious
diseases every
three months it's something I
won't ever
forget it was I mean it was
gusty night
for over a year the i-team has
been
reporting on crimes where the
suspects
are homeless like
sky arrested for setting fire
to chairs
at a downtown steakhouse and
this
homeless man pushing someone in
front of
a truck there were more than
6,000 of
these reported crimes in LA in
2017 by
the end of 2018 the number of
crimes was
up more than 50% and now we've
learned
the numbers are on track to
climb even
higher this year we found case
after
case where the suspects suffer
from
mental illness or
methamphetamine abuse
meth use has been linked to
violence and
so is untreated mental illness
how could
you live in this kind of
environment can
be okay okay mentally okay
Reverend Andy
bales runs the Union rescue
mission does
life on the streets lead to
violent
behavior perhaps like the
attack on that
woman on a downtown LA Street
keep watching just seconds
later the man
punched another victim attorney
Brandon
Cohen were you hunted in shock
when it
happened what was shocking was
that I
lived here for four years and
it didn't
happen sooner we found the
homeless who
were arrested for these crimes
are often
right back on the streets
without
getting any treatment or help I
am
always on the lookout
we discovered that Brandon
Cohen's
attacker Charles fuller had four
previous felony convictions but
after he
attacked Cohen the cops simply
gave him
a citation for battery and let
him go
four months later a block away
a similar
attack against this mother and
daughter
so the police didn't make an
arrest so
the suspect wasn't identified
well this
brings me to the eye so I have
the the
competitive eye so it may be
long I mean
it's three seconds long just
may be too
long but it's so good
yeah it's not three seconds
it's five
seconds here we go a bucket of
his
diarrhea
it was liquid hot liquid I was
soaked
that's too long
misty was hot liquid I was
soaked is
that it's not too long did you
gave me a
five-second ISO for a
two-second slot no
IIIi look I like first of all
your
trouncing on my turf this is my
turf but
okay it's fine
I was I was making the clip
when I
looked at your list and like
another one
you're just walking all over my
head
might smite beat this is
walking all
over 2 epic fail day
um the truth must come out
luckily
luckily Los Angeles has a
solution the
mayor of Los Angeles what's his
name the
mayor and his name here
somewhere aired
again no Garcetti Mayor Eric
Garcetti
has come up with a solution
something
that we've looked at
extensively not as
a as a homeless solution I
actually
looked at it as a home solution
at one
point during this show in the
past 12
years containers they're going
to stack
containers shipping containers
and turn
these into units for the
homeless
there's only one small issue
the each unist now you can buy a
shipping container for about
five grand
and we've looked into this
between three
is a shitty one but five
thousand
dollars you get a little more
you get a
beautiful one and then you spend
whatever you need to spend to
make the
unit but the the basic walls
even a door
there's a $5,000 I didn't
realize you're
that expensive yeah well it's a
lot of
iron well I guess yeah you'd
have to be
mostly aluminum when they're
completed
each of these units of these
shipping
container units in Los Angeles
will cost
six hundred thousand dollars
each what
yeah
yeah I suspect a scam yeah then
this is
this is coming from KFI and
those guys
with dari in LA so they didn't
know I'm
sure this is correct but this
is 1.2
billion dollar bond that that
they have
to spend somehow so he might as
well put
into $600,000 contain a shipping
container units almost as dumb
is Austin
oh my god you're such a mess
here so we
we got this camping ground
designated
and yesterday although is
raining was
really crap where them like it
Co it's
at Montopolis and 183 let me go
look and
we go find it this is a kind of
a nutty
intersection you you go on
Montopolis
continues underneath the
highway and I
could not find this campground
it must
be you know somewhere behind
some other
building I can't find it what I
did find
under 183 on Montopolis were
about 510
so I don't understand we'll
have they
cleaned anything up or is that
just a PR
moment did something really
take place
is there even an actual
campground that
these people are on I'm gonna
have to go
out again tomorrow to see if I
can find
it because I could not find it
and all
bull and there's new plans that
are
cropping up and Austin has come
up with
a spectacular solution oh we
should have
thought of this earlier new
records
obtained by KXAN investigators
show
where Austin could look to
house the
city's homeless
this comes as Austin police
begin
enforcing new camping
restrictions this
week takes a an investigator
Kevin Clark
found the city is targeting
several
hotels for possible housing
it's an old bed-and-breakfast
built in
1916 it's got six runs
available it's
just blocks from the Capitol
and it's
right across the street from
ACC's Rio
Grande campus yet it's one of
the
foresail hotel properties the
city could
look to buy and convert into
homeless
housing we don't want anyone in
our
community
or lying in public places or
being
forced to do that because
there's no
other place for them to go and
as Austin
looks to find housing for the
city's
homeless we have people in the
community
that are stepping forward right
now with
properties that might we might
be able
to consider buying they don't
require a
lot of rework to make available
specifically I'm talking about
some
hotels KXAN obtained this email
from
interim real estate officer
Alex Gale
showing a list of hotels and
motels for
sale in Austin the email was
sent to
then homeless strategy officer
Lori
pimpy low-stress who's now a
consultant
at homeless issues the
properties are
spread far and wide around
Austin the
Red Roof Inn off I 35 has 142
rooms
then there's the quality Suites
near 35
and Ben White in South Austin
it has a
capacity of 51 rooms we know
there are
at least seven Hotel properties
in
Austin that are for sale right
now a
city spokesperson could only
confirm
that Austin is in negotiations
for
multiple hotel properties but
wouldn't
go into further details yeah
they're
looking at spending eight
million
dollars in one of these hotels
and
they're reinventing in Austin
they're
reinventing the slum Hotel yes
and it's
it's genius apparently this is
an idea
from the 20s and and there's so
there's
one hotel that they want to buy
for
eight million dollars I think
it has 40
rooms eight million dollars
forty rooms
but catch this they're not
going to you
don't you don't have to this
basically
there's no requirements so
doesn't
matter what state you're in
what state
of mind or state of anything
you you get
on the list you're in you're in
your own
room no Matt you're head
against the low
man no mandatory program but
they will
keep offering it to you so as I
heard of
this little city council
meeting I
didn't clip it will bang on the
door
every day offering help so the
way I get
now what is eight million
dollars
divided by 40 and by the way
who's who's
gonna provide security is it
going to be
security is it going to be you
know
maintenance do they just call
someone
and the maintenance guy comes
and
is there light bulb I mean is
this
Wow yeah well there's me
there's more
craziness yesterday there was a
big oh
when it comes to schooling in
Austin oh
man people get really upset and
there's
a new curriculum a sexual
education
curriculum for think seventh
and eighth
graders how old are they 12
what's an eighth-grader 13 bus
see you
graduate from high school 17
and 18
subscribe 4 14 14 could be a
become 14
14 13 14 so it's that it got
approved so
this report is before it went
for a vote
before the school board and its
controversial before the doors
ever
opened fireworks tonight at the
Austin
ISD School Board meeting a ISD
police
arrested a transgender woman as
she
disrupted a rally outside
district
headquarters just as a rally
opposed to
the proposed Austin ISD sex ed
changes
began protests interrupted in
one black
transgender woman fatally shot
Austin
ISD police stepping in
arresting a
transgender woman Naomi Wilson
accusing
her of trespassing Julie
rallies for and
against the proposed curriculum
played
out before a packed school foot
that
they actually showed the guy
with that
with that phony birthday horn
in his
face when that sound came on it
was very
funny edit Julie rallies for
and against
the proposed curriculum played
out
before a packed school board
meeting is
this a society where we're just
telling
11 12 13 year-olds
well they're just gonna have
sex can we
not aim higher for kids
if approve the new curriculum
will be
for students in third through
eighth
grade it includes lessons for
elementary
students on gender identity
sexual
orientation and STDs meantime
seventh
graders will learn about how to
use a
condom it's time that we
revisited time
we bring in some you know better
language about different people
a
hundred and twenty six people
signed up
to speak during public comment
last-ditch efforts to sway the
Board's
decision before the final though
district staff created this
curriculum
after this state blocked it
from buying
the curriculum from Planned
Parenthood
still listening to public
comment it
actually just got started on
this topic
so it will likely be hours
before a
final vote so they bought this
curriculum from Planned
Parenthood
that's an interesting business
line I
didn't know they were in
making sex education curriculum
for
third graders and I have an
example of
this in practice this is a
version and
about I'm not of course against
sexual
education I think there's some
decisions
about parents at some age
appropriateness and but when
you listen
to this shit man it's just
confusing
fire Nadine a sex educator I
use the
pronouns she and her because
I'm a woman
and when I was your age I used
to be a
girl gender is how you feel on
the
inside about whether you're a
boy or a
girl a man or a woman if you're
not
binary
feel like neither or both
people can
also be fluid feel more like
female like
males on a seesaw in a
different air
time it's really an individual
absolutely everyone born with a
vulva is
a girl too or false for
identify not
everybody is sure and that
makes sense
but our genitals actually don't
determine our gender so some
people born
with Volvos and a boys learn a
little
bit more about gender we
actually have
an extra special visitor to
successful I
have been through the spectrum
if we
were to say a spectrum of like
this this
this person is sitting on a
chair in the
classroom with the kids huddled
around
and and he's explaining his his
sexual
gender boys and girls I have
been
everywhere in between I was
born a girl
and then when I was two years
old I told
my mom for the first time that
I was a
boy and I think that I framed
it I don't
remember it I've only been told
stories
but I framed it because my
brother's
middle name was the same as my
dad's and
so I insisted that my middle
name was
also the same as his but back
in the day
there was no talk shows and
there was no
internet there was no resources
so she
just ignored it and then nothing
happened for many many years
and then it
still took me a long time into
my 20s
before I decided to transition
but in
there
I was a you know a tomboy if
that's what
we say or like I was sporty
hide short
hair and then I grew it out in
high
school because I felt like I
should and
I felt like that's what people
wanted me
to be and then in my 20s I
decided to
become a drag king which we
don't hear
about as much like drag queens
are in
the news all the time but a
drag king is
a little bit difference so for
me it was
I in my daily life I was a girl
but then
when I went on stage and I
wanted to
perform I would perform as male
and I
would use he/him pronouns and
that was
kind of a way for the first
time where
people were seeing me as a boy
and
that's when it kind of clicked
in my
head of I actually want to do
this when
I'm offstage as well I just
don't know
if this is appropriate for young
children it's just confusing I
mean all
these things you can talk about
oh you
when you're curious you want to
know
about it but what what is when
is this
appropriate and when is it
appropriate
for the school to be doing this
okay boomer oh yeah big okay
boomer and
it's just like it's tough
enough just
figuring out what to do with
the thing
and where to put it or whatever
I'm just
speaking from a guy the other
thing of
course they don't even show
kids how to
balance a checkbook but they go
on to
this what is it okay boomer
what's the checkbook Google's
gonna have
your bank account surely you
know this
yeah apparently that's what's
going on
I found a line which I don't
think I
would have heard ever uh what
the whole
gender thing has been fairly
recent I
mean gender is always assumed
when they
do the statement our genitals
do not
determine our gender is a
fairly new
construct and I think the
history of
this would be kind of
interesting I'm
sure they could drag it you can
find
some reference all in the 1700s
you know
so-and-so said this or that but
this is
really not true this is a this
is a
recent invention that has been
thrust on
the public and the public has
just
lapped it up or they put up
with it I
think glad they resisted and
then they
get pounded to death yes and
it's very
unpopular to say no I don't
want my
child learning this or I'd like
to teach
my child you can't opt out by
the way
but you have to do it in time
and of
course that stigmatizes the kid
then
what do you what do you mean
you can't
you bow what's wrong with you
you can't
handle the truth just the whole
thing
seems a little too
controversial for
school where we should be
learning lots
of important items tooling is
the way to
go well since we're doing this
this
nutty social justice warrior
stuff I
have one okay boomer one more
for me one
more this one I actually I it
speaks to
me directly and this is
bullshit and I
will play the bullshit
jingle for that very reason
this is good
morning Britain with a woman
who is
pleading that we really should
ban
clapping it needs to be
replaced by jazz
hands
but what is her reasoning
behind that
what is upsetting genuinely
about
clapping so it's actually not
interesting people with anxiety
it's
also people who use hearing aids
clapping can be disruptive to
that go a
home no clapping is not
terrifying or
disruptive or startling when
you wear
hearing aids I have hearing
aids it's
not true and what kind of
reasoning is
this and this and all of a
sudden we
have to now stop clapping
because of
people with hearing aids No
naturally about clapping so it's
actually not just of people
with anxiety
it's also people who use
hearing aids
clapping can be disruptive to
that
people who have sensory
processing
issues it can be very
distressing and
overwhelming to have those loud
to
sudden noises but it is part of
our
culture isn't it to clap if you
go to
the theater or you go to a
lecture or
you go to a performance or you
go to a
gig you would expect that
people would
clap yeah absolutely and that
could be
preventing people from going to
those
events which is a real shame so
if some
theatres or some universities
they
actually wouldn't be more
inclusive and
do jazz hands instead hope you
lovely
more people could get involved
and then
what would be the penalty if
you clapped
I don't think there's gonna be
a penalty
frankly I don't think anyone's
going to
say like you need to leave but
if you
were persisting with clapping
even
though you've been requested to
do
something that's some very
polite is it
I mean it's nothing new but
just the
whole bullcrap about hearing
aids really
got my goat yeah well the whole
this is
stupid yes it is disheartening
jazz
hands
yes jazz hands
indeed
I mean this is there it's
almost like a
test
just like there's some societal
test
going on and people are being
great and
you dude maybe you notice like
The
Truman Show or something and
they're
watching and somebody saying oh
they're
going to love with that one
okay there
would they get shipped off I
mean the
levels of stupidity is just
like a test
I don't know what it is but
okay boomer
it's good for me let's see what
else we
got here I got a couple d-don't
sherry
was fired yes this was a now is
Don
sherry on the level of like
Howard
Cosell in Canada Naevia is he
or Howard
Cosell is fired for saying
little monkey
now why would you get fired for
that but
it was it was in context it was
like it
was not intentional that he was
calling
anybody a monkey he was just
talking
about this one player who was
running
around crazy on the field and
he thought
it drew that term in there was
the end
of that but Don Sherry's yeah I
would
say that's it's a good analogy
even
though nobody knows who Lissa's
this
show now knows who Howard coach
Howard
Cosell Frank's legacy him in
old Woody
Allen movies now so Jerry just
bitches
about immigrants and this is a
work of
art what I'm going to play they
played
the whole thing and pretty much
what
sherry had to say is in this
clip I
tried to find the whole thing I
found
out the chunks of him but at no
time
does he ever say the word white
or black
or anything in between he for
all
practical purposes just is
bitching
about immigrants and
specifically mm-hmm
not buying the little poppies
now we
talked about these little
poppies on on
the DHN plug show because even
Horowitz
is unfamiliar with this with
this long
room right you know ed well I
lived in
the UK so I'm very familiar
with it well
it was popular in the United
States too
Oh in the 50s and 60s you could
get
these poppies and they sold
them at all
the grocery stores and I talked
to
horror somebody never heard of
such a
thing they still do it in some
states in
the south I've seen it every
once in a
while and I'm always amused by
it but
the United States has given up
on this
Matt they don't care what in
Canada well
historically just now this
falls on
Veterans Day which used to be
Armistice
Day and these poppies are about
Armistice Day
and of World War one which is
still
celebrated in the United States
of
Britain and of course them
being a nice
you know the colonial bit
Australia and
a candid a via need to
participate in
this and a lot of candidates
died in
World War one yes a lot
and so we had so they sell the
puppies
and they still do the poppy
Brittany
where the poppy was on the 1111
you were
a little poppy and he might
wear it a
couple days later no but no no
no having
lived in the UK for five years
these
things are everywhere that every
checkout counter it is viewer a
social
pariah if you don't buy a poppy
and wear
it it's really for the entire
weekend
it's a couple days leading up
to eleven
eleven and you can wear it a
few days
after but you're supposed to be
wearing
it really for almost a week and
there's
no excuse because they're
practically
running up to you on the street
and
pinning them on you and it's
yes and I
was painted in the 60s 50s and
60s it
used to be here too why it died
out I
don't know why somebody
probably out
there knows and I expect to get
a letter
explaining it but it died out
in this
country accepting like I said a
couple
southern states they still do
it but we
don't do that at all and in
fact to the
point where Horowitz didn't
even know
what I was talking about yeah
that's how
kills it was he should be away
he should
be ashamed
well yeah I should but so
here's what
happens so Jerry's bitching
about the
immigrants not wearing the
poppies and
they turn this into an
unbelievable
story and let's play Don Cherry
event
one caring to target immigrants
in a
rant about people not wearing
poppies
ahead of Remembrance Day you
people love
you either come here whatever
it is you
love our way of life you love
our milk
and honey at least you could
pay a
couple of bucks for poppies or
something
like that the eighty five year
olds made
the remarks on Saturday night
during his
weekly Coach's Corner segment
that's
part of notice they said the
eighty
five-year-old she should have
just said
okay boomer that would have
been easier
like that the eighty five year
olds made
a remark on Saturday night
during his
weekly Coach's Corner segment
as part of
Hockey Night in Canada cherry
told
longtime co commentator Ron
MacLean he
rarely sees people wearing
poppies
anymore to honor veterans
appearing to
take aimed squarely at those he
believes
are new immigrants several
Canadians
promptly took to social media to
condemned
his comments is racist and call
for his
firing these guys pay for your
way of
life that you enjoy in Canada
these guys
paid the biggest price McClane
was also
called out for not saying
anything in
response instead flashing
cherry a quick
thumbs up I owe you an apology
too
that's the big thing that I
want to
emphasize i sat there I did not
catch it
did not respond the host of
Rogers
hometown hockey expressed
remorse on
Sunday night for how he handled
himself
during the broadcast
it certainly doesn't stand for
what
Sports Net or Rodgers
represents last
night was a really great lesson
to Don
and me we were wrong and I
sincerely
apologized and I wanted to
thank you for
calling me and Dawn on that
last night
Sports Net which produced this
Hockey
Night in Canada has apologized
saying in
a statement Dawn's
discriminatory
comments are offensive and they
do not
represent our values and what
we stand
for as a network
now ordered I'm stopping it cuz
it
continues it where it gets
really good
first of all his partner said
we were
wrong and he threw he threw
down under
the bus yeah sure he came on
some other
shows later so I didn't
apologize for
anything and I didn't think we
were
wrong he says my use of the
word you
people seems to be worthy to
trigger
Asus and then he says that may
have been
a mistake
mmm-hmm but he was still
condemning the
immigrants for now on a granted
anti-immigrant rant which is
you know I
suppose as far no I'm sorry he
didn't go
on an anti-immigrant rant he
said he's
not anti-immigrant he said
these new
people these immigrants are not
participating in a cultural
event and
you need to integrate a little
bit and I
think he then said by the way a
lot of
the guys that we remember and
gals got
guys more died so that you can
be here
in our cold ass country I think
you're
correct and I think that
probably would
have ended it there but it's a
natural
pole because they have to
rationalize
getting rid of this guy yeah it
had to
twist this is very interesting
use of
they twisted the thing it
turned out not
to be an anti-immigrant rant
even though
what you heard is all he said
he hates
blacks is this clip too and
before you
start it I just careful II how
the media
just just sorted the whole
thing and it
got people to go along with
this to the
point where it wasn't just this
immigrant complaint which is
where you
described it a complaint about
not
taking part it's a racial it
turns into
the he's a Brit hates blacks
and he
hates black wait let's go
further
he hates black veterans I
missed all
this you're right this is
groovy I can't
wait here we go we have spoken
to dawn
about the severity of this
issue and we
sincerely apologize for these
divisive
remarks Sportsnet is a division
of
Rogers media the parent company
of City
News
he needs to sit down and stop
talking
sports writer Shireen Ahmed says
Cherry's comments took a
personal turn
when he said you people she
adds his
narrative that those who served
our
country were all white it's not
only
historically inaccurate but an
insult to
thousands of veterans and their
families
so that Don Cherry gets to sit
there in
a pine about how we remember
vets is
horrible to me I mean this is a
man
that's never served had he
taken a
moment to recognize you know
the black
Canadian fighters the
indigenous men
that gave their lives who he
describes
and defines as a vet doesn't
include
everybody
after Terry's comments even the
Canadian
Armed Forces tweeted a reminder
about
the important contributions and
sacrifices soldiers of color
have made
to Canada's military it says
they fought
to fight for Canada they fought
for the
chance to give their lives for
Canada
they fought for your right to
choose
they are us Wow I still don't
know
exactly how that happened I
heard that
that woman come in the young
girl who's
been wearing a hijab gee job oh
oh oh
that is that is that's pretty
set you
know for some backup Americans
you guys
you guys doing pretty good up
there you
cut his stuff down so she comes
on and
makes a complaint and she
brings in
white which was never discussed
oh it
gets twisted and because she is
like
feels offended she was offended
and next
thing you know they he hates
black
veterans it's like you go from
complaining about people not
wearing a
poppy
- you hate black veterans just
bang bang
bang it was a work of art I
thought and
that is a de platforming on a
massive
scale
just took him right out and
then just
turned it around into your
racist cuz
you don't even you're too
ignorant to
know that there were black
veterans
unbelievable yeah I was taken
aback but
now that that is fantastic I
mean it's
it's sad and they said is there
no
pushback and we certainly are
can the
Navion producers can he's
canceled is
just canceled they can no he's
done he's
cancelled yeah that's cancelled
and in
the bin yes I believe though
that there
was they were out to get him
for a while
that Muslim there must be a
read there
must be more behind this that
well yes
because he's 85 he's hogging
this spot
on the air uh he won't retire
and it's
like he's irascible he would
only risk
people watch the shows cuz he's
makes
these kinds of comments and he
goes off
the deep end a lot and he's fun
he's a
fun guy watched him he's
hilarious he's
grit is called coaches corners
the main
show he talks about the hockey
game and
how these guys are playing
poorly
because they're not doing
things right
and then he has seen he
describes
everything they should be doing
it
wasn't they're not doing right
what they
it's very good it's like Johnny
Miller
if you get to watch him do golf
commentation he is excellent
because he
mainly because he's very harsh
people
like don't they like honesty
even though
sometimes you can be wrong I
mean this
way our show is so popular
because we're
honest we don't we don't have
anyone
telling us not to do stuff
sherry felt that way that he
did that he
was like pretty much a free
land you
know do whatever he wanted and
they just
got sick of it and looked for
the first
boat out of town and they
kicked him on
it
well at least that won't happen
with us
anymore quickie there was an
article in
The Guardian that caught my eye
because
the title of it was should we
stop
keeping pets and the subtitle
research
into animals emotional lives
has cast
doubt on the ethics of pet
keeping and
and like we finally come full
circle
I'll read a few bits and this
is serious
this is not a not joking and
this is not
the onion from the animals that
become
dog and cat food and the puppy
farms
churning out increasingly
unhealthy
purebred canine to the goldfish
sold by
the bag and the crickets by the
box pet
ownership is pop problematic
because it
denies animals the right of
self-determination ultimately
we bring
them into our lives because we
want them
then we dictate what they eat
where they
live how they behave how they
look even
whether they get to keep their
sex
organs is the babylon b this is
no this
is the guardian treating
animals as
commodities isn't new or
shocking humans
have been meat eaters and
animal skin
wares for millennia
blah blah blah move forward
quote it's
morally problematic because
more people
are thinking of pets as people
is what i
always say they consider them
part of
their family they think of them
as their
best friend they wouldn't sell
them for
a million dollars says dr. hal
Herzog
professor of psychology at
Western
Carolina University at the same
time
research is revealing that the
emotional
lives of animals even
relatively quote
simple animals such as goldfish
are far
more complex and rich than we
once
thought the logical consequence
is that
the more we attribute them with
these
characteristics the less right
we have
to control every single aspect
of their
lives
this is where it's going to go
and you
could own what we could have
actually I
could have predicted this it's
going to
be cruel to have an animal
because dogs
are people too
it will be cruel if you give
the dog to
eat what you want the dog to
eat tell
them where to lie down and cut
his nuts
off in this point this is going
to be
very problematic people are
going to get
brain fry from this
not to give the dog the right
to vote
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person
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and we all
meet it places and we hang out
and we
have a good time today we have
the local
512 South Austin Texas meet up
at 7:30
that's of course hosted by sir
Scott
he's the baronet of the No
Agenda armory
and his lovely
Christine meet up at Doc's
backyard in
Sunset Valley it's the second
time
they're doing this I won't be
there
tonight they do it on Thursdays
because
they don't want me there in
Michigan
it's true that's it's that's
what they
told me it's like we do it on o2
yeah we don't want you around
yeah also
today in Michigan 6:30 6:30
Eastern the
local number one pizza run you
can join
them at spicy slices build your
own
personal Napolitan a pizza a
Yousuf
Agassi is your host tomorrow
Wichitas
cow town hoedown meetup the
first one
six o'clock and that will be in
FEMA
region number seven of course
the
Wichita Brewing Company asks
for a dude
named Clem and Darin the
Navigator
Saturday Cincinnati Ohio at
three
o'clock this is the official I
got tired
of waiting for somebody else to
schedule
a meet up meet up come to the
fret board
Brewing Company for an
afternoon of
merriment Barron Fox Pat of the
Cook
Islands look for the man with
the tan
the 22nd also oh that's though
we jump
right to next week well I'll
give you
that one as well that'll be in
The Hague
in the Netherlands the city of
international justice and world
peace
and the seat of the Dutch
government the
residents of our King and loads
and
loads of expats the venue a
little town
yeah in miniature world it's
not not far
from there the venue will be the
Fiddler's den ha
in the heart of the city of
five minute
walk from the Beano Hoff where
the Dutch
Knights Hall is situated so all
you
knights and dames should not
feel out of
place
it can never be enough at any
enough NA
meetups Robin of the dunes of
The Hague
is organizing that and I'll
just add in
Kamloops British Columbia
Canada Naevia
6 o'clock
on next Saturday and that'll be
at the
noble Pig and those are your
meetups for
now I did have a meet-up report
and I'd
ask people to send a video or
audio I
did get one but it was kind of
like a
presented meetup it was too
long minute
and a half but it was of the
Boston
meetup which we already
reviewed right
we did we took the report
anyway this is
a still written Orange County
Meetup
let's see although the outing
had a few
hiccups and a few less
attendees they
had 9 which is still not bad a
grand
time was had by all who made
the sojourn
we met with some new no agenda
ins
reconnected with old ones and
checked
this even had a brief video
chat with
Sir Chris Wilson who regaled us
with
songs and bits to keep us
entertained
while we looked for a second
venue Wow
Chris is diving on video chat
to just
entertain people love that guy
he is the
true troubadour he is the true
troubadour which brick while
the drunken
minstrel is his title which
brings us to
the history of drunken
troubadour this
brings us to the hiccups
attention meet
up people you can learn from
this we
chose busts cats next to the
John Wayne
Airport and that was just in
case John
wanted to attend yep and found
that it
was ok I did I wanted to attend
but they
jacked up the prices on flights
to John
Wayne so high that it was not
it was not
practical
Southwest isn't that like their
main
their main to one of their main
one of
their other main ones I think
is Phoenix
but well anyway we found it was
overcrowded and loud AF look it
up John
they say it's like an okay
boomer slam
we were talking about autofocus
exactly
we were forced to find the
second venue
after a few na s called it
quits however
those of us who stayed had a
wondrous
time exploring that weird
Barcade
nightclub place with the
awesome tacos
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and if you want to know where
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calm yeah
spaz fantastic I have a couple
things to
get to before we go and with
more clips
okay this is my list your Louis
thinks
that we're supposed to talk
about we
never do oh you did you clean
up the
office and you felt hanging
from the
ceiling on a string and for
some reason
the last show I'd ever noticed
it so
also here it is haha okay you
were
discussing while in Amsterdam
credit
card you can't buy dope meaning
marijuana or hashish or
whatever with a
credit card
alright I'm sorry with cash you
had no
you can't use a credit card but
you have
talked about on the show many a
time
that you can't use cash in
Amsterdam so
how does this work well you're
right
there is I tried to now the way
the this
particular coffee shop work
which was in
Rotterdam very modern on the
inside and
it's all you walk in it's kind
of like a
little waiting room and then
behind the
glass there's two people who
are selling
the product with like an we stop
and back up and let me ask a
question
that probably was answered
years ago but
I want to ask it again
why are marijuana pot smoking
places
called coffee shops because you
can buy
coffee there as well that the
year they
originally were coffee shops
where you
could smoke and then it kind of
became
smoke shops where you can
coffee so if
you actually had a real coffee
shop you
couldn't cut and you didn't
want to
smell sell anything but coffee
like a
true coffee shop you couldn't
really
call it a coffee shop and in
Holland in
fact I think you may not even
be allowed
to call it a coffee shop
because of the
connotation yet because there's
no
you're not allowed to create
new ones
it's being phased out to
harmonize with
the European Union so
eventually this
will be gone by the way greed
is not
actually legal in Holland it is
permitted but it is not legal
and there
are some very there's strict
restrictions on the sellers so
it's kind
of like buying a train trick
ticket we
have the little you know you
can slide
your your ID underneath the
through the
underneath the window the
little slot
there most people are requested
and of
course I have a Texas driver's
license
which was accepted but I you
can't swipe
it or tap it on there they have
government ID and yeah
everyone's just
like okay I'll just prove Who I
am and
they they swipe their
government ID and
it says ok you're approved of
course the
government now knows you're
buying weed
but that's just a minor minor
thing that
I guess the Dutch don't care
about so
that's to prove that you can
actually
buy it then you purchase and I
just and
they have a pin machine which
is for
your your debit card your PIN
card which
actually doesn't work on the
debit card
system it only works on the
Dutch
banking system which is why
they call it
a pin card and I put my credit
card in
it went like wow should I try
it again
I'm sure it'll no no and then
it came
feign vite up credit she said I
said
what Shayne Vito credit which
translates
it rhymes but it translates to
no weed
on credit chain vite up credit
I said oh
so yeah that's the law you
cannot buy
weed on credit which makes sense
I'm ok with that but of course
I didn't
have a pin card so I did have
cash and
they gladly accepted that and
then to
answer your question kind of
then you
back up you turn left there's a
glass
door and of course I showed my
ID it
wouldn't if you sue if you have
an ID to
swipe than the glass door
unlocks you
can go in and sit beautifully
like wood
and glass modern interior a
coffee shop
wait and with actually free
coffee a
coffee machine just get your
coffee from
cappuccino if you wanted it and
smoke
well you kind of ignored the
question no
I didn't I said you answered a
complaint
no the question the real
question was
you said on a previous show you
can't
use cash
well apparently for buying weed
you
still can because they have to
sell to
foreigners and foreigners don't
have the
pin system so this is one of
Zurich and
I've never said you kill you
can use
cash in certain spots in I've
never said
if you can't use it anywhere I
said they
were phasing it out you did no
I said
they're phasing it out and
there are
shops there are shops where you
don't
folk will fry me there oh maybe
maybe
that's what that's was the
trick that
mill was using no brother all
right and
let me give you some screw your
list do
you remember what I said about
the
lowering of the speed limit yes
it
happened no yep the Dutch speed
limit
lowered from 130 kilometers an
hour to
100 nationwide which is about
62 that's
the top speed limit there's
lots of
lower speed limits where you
sure where
you drive now there's an
exemption
between 7:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m.
you
still may be able to drive 130
on
certain sections but here's how
it was
explained this is very
interesting the
prime minister said in
announcing this
ruling the reason they're doing
this is
it will lower the obvious green
house
deadly gases that are killing
us all and
only because they're we all
collectively
drive slower
we are saving on our carbon
budget and
therefore the building sector
can now go
back to work and can they will
get their
18,000 permits to start
building over
74,000 homes which we'll need
because
we're expecting a lot of
immigrants to
come
do you think this pisses some
people off
Wow Annie have the audacity
that they
tell you they say put this out
there as
though it's good news and have
the
audacity to add to that if more
people
start driving battery cars we
may be
able to raise it eventually
sometime
kind of maybe are out raged
now this is from the same party
who are
the majority party I think have
been in
almost 18 years I think it was
it was 10
years ago it's the same party
who raised
the limit there there are a
center-right
wing the the VVD they raised
the limit
from 100 to 130 saying it
actually is
better to drive faster you get
there
sooner therefore you pollute
less but
everyone's forgotten that
apparently and
now it's going to lower
everything so
that the construction centre is
a sector
can get back to work to build
the almost
100,000 homes because we got a
lot of
immigrants coming well I'll
tell you
eventually someone is going to
get hurt
in this mess
this is nuts and having lived
there in
this country that speed limit
is very
important for the Dutch it's
just it's
culturally important thing I
found that
fascinating Wow
ok one more thing on the list
and I was looking at oh yeah
podcasters
Union well I think we were
talking about
this maybe after the show that
whatever
happened to it did did they
happen are
the podcasters Union in place
our people
benefit been a benefiting from
this and
I'd love to know I don't see
any more
stories about it
I don't get better I heard that
one time
was the gimlet that was getting
the
unionized who I think it was
gimlet yeah
I think it was gimlet close
gimlet was
bought by Spotify and that's
the end of
it hmm yeah there's no Union as
far as I
know
anything else on your list no
that was
the only two items on the list
was
surprisingly you have some OTG
stuff to
discuss because I got answers
to the SMS
text messaging issue that I
witnessed
and I I was having messages not
showing
up when I was texting the
keeper from
overseas and I think there's
I've had
more of these issues I'd know
for sure
sometimes pictures don't get
sent which
means if rubbish gonna say
isn't there
other rules about when you're
overseas
trying to send to the u.s. is
always a
problem it shouldn't be when
SMS first
came into play it was very much
a
network delivered service from
the telco
networks and it was guaranteed
it was
like a guaranteed service with
you can
even have receipts and yeah it
was it
was quite a quite a big deal
and it came
in with the GSM standard before
it ever
was way before it came to the
US and it
was it was quite the quite the
revelation people were using it
because
it was cheaper than calling
then of
course as I remember that was
during the
era where people would have two
phones
they'd have one for calling one
for SMS
oh I don't remember that I
never had
that yeah is because of the
rates they
would write phone system that
SM because
SMS cost money yeah
the SMS was cheap it really was
being
subsidized but the phone
calling was
expensive on this ones line and
then the
other line where the phone was
cheap and
the SMS was expensive so you
knit with
two phones well this the air
the answer
to the two what's going on here
or the
explanation really comes in my
mind
close to some claims you've
made which
are sounding very true when you
read
this and we got a number of
dudes named
Ben who all requested anonymity
because
they work in the sector so no
names but
I picked one of them out that I
think is
the middle they all kind of
based we
said the same thing I recently
worked
for an SMS router called open
market
they are an absolute mess yet
they have
millions of messages they
deliver and
just so you know that these
routers
there's many of them and
essentially all
the telcos all the phone
companies were
out sourced this type of work
to these
routers because it's a lot of
data yeah
our Duden Eben's continues this
is not
that dissimilar to what email
providers
do the company charges per
message for
some customers but also they
have to
compete so they will give large
buckets
of pricing to some providers
now this
company is an SMS mms RCS
router for
many giant organizations yet
they have
recently lost out on a large
contract
with Amazon I love it
where am i but they are that
they are
the provider for Apple for
instance
which is one of the largest
companies
they broker they use a legacy
service
structure in a data center and
are
currently migrating to a micro
service
architecture especially the new
RCS
service this is what the what
Google is
trying to push everybody toward
the most
recent technological
advancement in this
realm is the use of RCS rich
communication services it's a
protocol
between both mobile operators
and phones
the overall aim of RCS is for
it to
eventually replace SMS and MMS
the
reason why these messages do
sort of
late delivery can be a
multitude of
issues is likely due to consumer
processes that fail on the back
end to
deliver messages from the queue
many of
these services use Amazon Web
Services
or rabbit MQ for queuing and
there are a
number of issues with these
services
this is kind of consistent what
I heard
is that they can't handle the
load
really and this is why I
I mentioned that you've been
seeing this
and you believe that Twitter
and and
other companies that claim
algorithms
are doing the business that they
actually can't display
everything as
desired because of just the
workload or
the amount of data or it just
well you
tell me your suspicions I've
noticed
this I think the whole shadow
banning
thing's a scam that is they
gladly
accept the responsibility of oh
well
yeah we we were shadow banning
when it's
not then they're not doing
anything
except they just can't handle
the load
is too too much that Twitter is
just
overloaded they can't afford
more
capacity because they start
losing money
it's a bit sub it's a bean
counter thing
I think this is true with just
not only
them I think this was also true
I think
this is showing up and with the
new
Disney services that failed our
oh yeah
oh yeah they had a bad launch
and you
know and that's why you have
you know
people that have come up with
these
other technologies like where
they use
these appliances and Google
does it with
their YouTube and they have a
YouTube
appliance that's at most ISPs
they also when Netflix does
that's why
it seems as though they can
handle the
load well it's because most of
the load
they're not handling is being
handled by
these by these other little
little
systems that have put their
best movies
for example on Netflix you
could you go
find some really old piece of
crap on
Netflix that nobody's watched
in a long
time yeah it's not gonna come
to you at
all okay spin spin here it is
well then
you watch it first-run movie
boom there
right there that kind of puts a
new
slant on something that
Instagram is
doing Instagram is now removing
likes
from post Instagram post
without likes
still worth sharing
that's what users will find out
when the
platform starts hiding like on
some US
posts the idea is to try and
depressurize Instagram make it
less of a
competition give people more
space to
focus on connecting with the
people that
they love things that inspire
them
already tested in several other
countries Instagram will hide
likes on a
limited number of us accounts
for now
you'll be able to see the likes
but your
followers won't Kim Kardashian
one of
instagrams biggest influencers
with more
than 150 million followers is
giving the
change her stamp of approval as
far as
mental health I mean it's
something
that's you know I think taking
the likes
away and taking that aspect
away from
that would be really beneficial
for
people that idea who also
pushed other
social platforms like Facebook
YouTube
and Twitter to experiment with
removing
metrics that show how many
users like or
see a post - along with the
social
pressure to rack up likes
Instagram cos
all certain iconic places looks
like
this down under the Manhattan
Bridge
from popular in to overrun
often just
for the gram
I actually don't post as much
as I used
to just because even the
comments give
me anxiety sometimes when
you're so hung
up on what people are liking or
don't
like can you're kind of
forgetting about
really people was Instagram all
about
you to begin with
instagrams experiment could
soon become
a reality for
like it or not so I don't know
if that's
because they can't handle
displaying the
number of likes they seem to
want to
display it for the well let me
stop you
before you go on with that
thesis
because I think it quite
possibly could
be taking a bit of the load off
and I'll
tell his story as a person that
told me
this and apparently this goes
used to go
on all the time but most of the
CEOs of
airlines don't fly on their
airlines
anymore but they used to and
this guy
was a friend of mine and
apparently this
happened a lot there was a guy
that used
to be the CEO of American
Airlines
Crawford Kramer or something
like that
he was a very famous CEO he's
blowhard
and they was bit the guy was
talking
about he's who the first class
he's
talking to me says well you
know the
food used to be better and this
and this
guy the CEO says you know we
used to put
two olives on this meal yeah
and well
you only put one olive on now
and that
saved us three million dollars
a year no
kidding and you take this one
too in
this and those little things do
add up
and I believe that the death
scales
right - these these systems and
so they
have - they had the little
thing like
taking the likes off probably
saves them
a lot of server space and it
saves them
from computation and I think it
probably
does take a bit enough it's
like they're
it's like taking the olive off
it's like
deep it it's the olive theory
it's very
well cardi B Ober who is an
authority
when it comes to Instagram and
she's
very successful she has well
she's a lot
wealthier than we are
she has some she posted an
Instagram she
posted something to us insta
story it's
the story about the likes and
she talks
weird but it she's worth
listening to
because she's still approaching
this
from a mental health
perspective not the
olive theory but she she makes
a good
comment about some other
changes that
have occurred to Instagram
which she
feels have ruined the product
and she is
an expert big monkeys
in the beginning it's hard to
listen to
but she's making a good point
that
Instagram used to be just you
post a
picture and there was a list of
comments
underneath now you can comment
on
comments and you can like
comments and I
think that maybe more important
important is if you have to
display
account I mean shoot YouTube
doesn't
even update their accounts in
real time
we know that so I you know it
may just
be an olive problem
it certainly is certainly very
disruptive for and that's in a
way it's
like with by the way I am I had
in this
I have an Instagram account I
had one
I've had one for since the early
inception of the service but
it's not
some old phone I've never never
even
posted anything but I go there
once a
while look at people's pictures
or
something along those lines but
I didn't
know they were letting you like
comments
young would that start I don't
know I
checked it this morning they so
it is
possible but yeah you can like
comments
all right still on OTG as we
had a
kerfuffle car fall fall now
every every
company in Silicon Valley wants
to be
your bank
I think we've mentioned this
for several
years now that is always the
ultimate
and now we we know that Google
are plans
to offer checking accounts face
bag
wants to give you face bag
doubloons
yeah everyone wants to be your
bank and
not only that they want to be
your
medical provider and this one I
have
your whole life and you're
holding that
in your hands with that stupid
smart
phone which you should throw
away you
really and I have some on
Sunday I have
some thoughts for people who
want to
live the OTG lifestyle how you
can get
into it cost-effectively and
how it will
if you have phone addiction
which most
of us do how it will save you
from that
and so I'm working on a little
segment
but the latest kerfuffle was
the Apple
credit card which is back
office by
Goldman Sachs who by the way
our work
that they didn't get the credit
for it
they kind of happy now I think
because
well the algos that are
determining
credit limits are biased Apple
calls it
simple and secure the credit
card
created by asset
but Apple and partner Goldman
Sachs are
now accused of gender bias
software
developer and millionaire David
Heine
Meir Hansen says he and his
wife share
assets and income but Apple
card gave
him a credit line 20 times
higher than
hers even though she has a
higher credit
score it seemed very
discriminatory that
I would get is 20 times the
credit limit
even though our stats were the
same
Goldman says a computer
algorithm made
the decision when Hanson vented
on
Twitter social media erupted
with
similar stories even the man who
co-founded Apple Steve Wozniak
says he
got ten times the credit limit
that his
wife Janet's got it was so low
I could
barely buy a phone or a plane
ticket and
I buy all of his plane tickets
I always
think in terms of assets and
income and
it's the same for both of us
and that
should determine your
creditworthiness
Goldman Sachs Apple's financial
partner
says gender and marital status
are not
factors we look at an
individual's
income and an individual's
creditworthiness which includes
factors
like personal credit scores how
much
debt you have and how that debt
has been
managed consumer advocates say
algorithm
bias is nothing new we've seen
it in
housing we've seen it in hiring
we've
seen it in health care tonight
the
Wozniak say Goldman Sachs is
offered to
increase Janet's limit as New
York state
regulators look into whether
this credit
card algorithm has an illegal
gender
bias first of all I find it
very sad
that people are actually angry
about how
much in debt they can go
I just incredibly sad I mean
get it get
a debit card if you want no
limit if
you've got the money but okay
or get an
American Express card or it's
just you
arguing oh I'm so great I can
go up to a
hundred thousand dollars in debt
okey-dokey good on you of
course if you
really want to know what's
going on if
you want the true answers in
technology
we all know there's only one
queen
it's got to be Kara Swisher who
can tell
us what's really going on it
also really
kind of speaks to the fact that
an algorithm involves computers
that
involves machines but there
still has to
be a human being that's right
basically
inputting the code how that
speaks to
what could perhaps be inherent
biases or
even just mistakes or unintended
consequences well I don't know
if it's
unintended consequences these
are
programmed by people and of
course as
you know the diversity in the
tech ranks
are pretty low and so it's not
the
question that people try to
it's that
the way these algorithms are
designed is
they're not as thought out as
they
should be everyone assumes the
black box
the Machine decides everything
but
whatever you put in comes out
of it and
so in this case you know what's
really
the problem is there's so many
good
examples of bad outcomes here
and they
only grow as time goes on and I
think it
should be extended out for lots
of
things it's this idea that
algorithms
rule us and as we get into
quantum
computing and everything else
we tend to
rely on the decisions of these
technologies that were created
by people
and largely by men and largely
by white
men and so it's just this thing
I think
about is how these algorithms
go into
place and how much so I call
such
bullcrap on what she just said
I guarantee you it's brown and
yellow
men writing these algorithms
it's not
white men loosely Indians
it's what I'm saying brown men
but no
it's white men men and they're
white is
fearful shameful yeah it's
Regis you
should have Herbert card with
poles
there's plenty of women coding
this
stuff too
so she's full of crap most of
the white
guys are the bosses hello isn't
she
white dude I mean come on Kara
get it together all right one
last one
last one either way I missed
this one
last one just to make you throw
up in
your mouth a little bit this is
a a
fabulous little NPR segment
they did on
on this great smart home
neighborhood
which Amazon is sponsoring it's
the
future John it's great it's
gonna be
fabulous
Brittany Savage works for
Lennar one of
the nation's largest home
builders and
she's been making the same
sales pitch
over and over to potential home
buyers
in this Seattle suburb control
everything from your window
blinds to
your door locks using just your
voice
the front door is looked adjust
the mood
lighting or tell Roomba to
clean up call
up the feed from one of the
countless
video cameras on the smart
television
Alexa show me the backyard okay
and now
we can spy on whoever is having
a drink
on the back patio cameras and
convenience that's the pitch
drew homes
wasn't looking for a smart home
when he
shopped for a house here but the
technologies came with the
house now I'm
like would not live without him
his
favorite feature is a ring
doorbell that
logs visitors have a teenager
it's nice
to confirm when they come home
and I can
have these one-time Holmes was
away on a
business trip and his
stepdaughter
forgot her key and couldn't get
in so
she just texted me hey can you
open the
door and I open the door from
Oregon and
so that was nice prom solved
there are
other neighborhoods like this
bubbling
up outside tech-savvy cities
like Miami
and Denver and I should mention
Amazon
is an NPR sponsor in this
neighborhood
Alexa's in every reading she
adjusts the
thermostat and reports on
people's
commutes when they roll out of
bed and
she's getting better at it
because she's
watching and learning what
people need
Dave garlic technology will
take off
once people try it
he's with second-century
ventures an
investment arm of the National
Association of Realtors there's
a new
narrative when it comes to what
home
means it means a personalized
environment where technology
responds to
your
every need maybe it means given
up some
privacy these families are
trying out
that compromise
fifteen-year-old Maci
Ferguson says she likes it she
uses
Alexa alarms when for
cheerleading
practice and one for homework
to help
her manage her busy life I just
feel
really fancy because I feel
like just my
little like servant if I'm
walking on
our street I walk on the other
side of
the street the side without the
smart
homes just because I don't feel
like
being on everyone's cameras and
that's
something we'll all have to
learn how to
navigate if this technology
becomes
standard in more neighborhoods
it can't
wait in PR thanks for that
wonderful
rapport with your Amazon sponsor
disgusting I know it's
disgusting this
is just 1984 stuff yeah and
we're
happily purchasing it well
we're not no
but there's something yet large
public
and most people all either Judy
they're
all Judy with it and you know
it's it
won't end well especially in
the I'm
sorry continue
I would say was you see what
won't add
end well aspect I forgot what I
was
gonna say you say it's not
gonna end
well yeah I was gonna say
something else
oh especially when they cut
your power
off is what I was going to say
which
happens a lot now he's bitching
about it
and then they had a whole
special I
didn't clip it of course I can
tell you
they it's like I'm a fisherman
you know
I caught this huge fish the one
that got
away
that's all right so this this
was a clip
about now there's all the cell
towers
were cut off along with the
rest of the
power and nobody can even
communicate
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