December 8th, 2019 • 2h 58m
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they had these big giant prawns
man Adam
curry media assassination
episode 11 97
this is no agenda in the morning
everybody
hi Adam Curry from northern
Silicon
Valley where the rains have
washed the
area clean I'm Jessie you know
I said
I'm stirred um but it really it
I didn't
mean to do that it just came out
I heard that came out that way
that was
I meant to say that was time to
leave I
mean Thomas - Tom man I'm an
arm's - Tom
yes I am another gray rainy day
you've
got the same eye here no no
it's good
oh I thought you said the rain
had
washed everything away it's
already done
yes seems to be done now it's
today
Pearl Harbor day or tomorrow
the Pearl Harbor day was
yesterday was
yesterday okay that was the day
that was
a date a date a date that will
something
and it be therefore in infamy I
don't
know well you wouldn't know it
you
wouldn't know being over here
did
anybody do anything about that
in the
States
no I just when somebody
mentioned to me
in an email thanking us for
doing such a
great job on this show they
mentioned it
I said holy crap I didn't
mention that
newsletters a good thing to
mention so I
said I Lord no yeah I saw that
and that
was appreciated my grandfather
was in
the Navy lieutenant commander
and I
wasn't at Pearl Harbor he got
lucky on
that one but interesting that
it's
completely just been wiped away
not even
a mention ID nothing over here
not a
single thing yet I even on
international
there was just mostly football
games
yeah
high-quality ones too so that
you know
who cares about it oh yeah yeah
let's
just let's just do pretend war
have the
Jets fly over but let's not
remember
anything that's interesting
well the impeachment here is
page 17 no
one cares
there is unusual since I know
they're
basically Europe is a bunch of
Trump
Peters that maybe and what's on
page 17
is you know the typical skewed
I mean
you think it's bad when the US
press
writes down what Adam Schiff
says
but then have the judge make a
step up
the Dutch press then just
copies that
and translates it to Dutch and
you know
now it's facts it's how it
works it's
very very simple system very
simple
simple simple
but yeah it's nobody nobody
cares at all
it seems huh yeah the only
thing let's
see what do I have what what
are we
learning while I was here
learned a couple things I
wanted to know
about which is what was the
feeling
holland about the brexit for
example do
you know it's I would say that
the Dutch
aren't that interested in
brexit either
they've got their own crap
going on in
fact the biggest news here
outside of
the fact that the farmers
really are
threatening to cut off all
supply routes
to all supermarkets right around
Christmas which people are like
well you
know I support the farmers but
if
they're gonna ruin my Christmas
then I
don't think I like that so much
of the
support seems to be limited but
the big
news is they announced the
hosts of the
Eurovision Song Contest
did you get it
I'm I missed it by a hair John
just by a
hair
in fact they had to get three
hosts they
get three hosts that gave you a
better
opportunity I guess I was not
on the
shortlist Hungary by the way
has pulled
out they said we're not
participating in
this stupid contest with women
with
women with beards is what or
bond has it
means barely he's barely coming
out and
saying it's too gay
no which of course no he hasn't
done it
yet gotta give him credit for
saying it
I kind of like that but the the
new
phrase here in the Netherlands
yeah oh
yeah it's hilarious I did and
that's
also news you know it's a small
country
and but the you know everyone
has to
drive a hundred kilometers an
hour
that's the max which you know
what's
kind of shrug their shoulders
and go hey
idiots her and they grouse a
little bit
no one's really doing much else
with it
the situation in the 1970s in
the United
States when they only had the
gasoline
crisis well though I was living
here
when that struck and they had
car free
Sunday's well there's that too
did we have that in the States
we didn't
have that in the states did we
know but
we had every other day for you
forgetting gas also for being
on the
road some places oh wow yeah I
remember
it was just there was no cars
on the
road it's Sunday and it seemed
to go on
for mm a year Louise no people
need to
drive you know they're talking
about
that again here cuz you know
they well
we'll get into that in just a
moment
because it all has to do with
climate
change and that is the other
big news 25
top 25 I have some clips to
I did want to finish up the
Dutch report
I'll continue with the Dutch
report
longer I don't have that money
who had
to go to cop 25 I got some good
stuff
from cop 25 I have a 100% hit
rate of
coolness factor with the
Millennials
with my flip phone
I love it great they love it
and and
here's what's interesting they
say oh
man I'd love to have this phone
I want
this phone and that just keep
my other
phone my smartphone at home or
in my bag
or whatever for Instagram
that's the
main things that can I do
Instagram said
no okay said ma'am then but
they all
love it they think it's cool
they like
the idea of not being able to
do too
much and of course they love
the fact
that whatsapp will run on it if
you load
it because that's the only way
you can
communicate in this country no
one uses
text message anymore all of
Europe is is
all sold on whatsapp it is so
disappointing
I've never used whatsapp oh
yeah I've
used it I got banned from it
actually I
got banned for whatsapp yeah
didn't we
talk about that how do you get
banned
from whatsapp I was using a
pearl I know
I am NOT pearl what's the other
one a
Python I was using a Python
library
because what I wanted to write
a this is
when I was you know one of my
was
probably a year and a half ago
and I was
really into this just before we
went on
vacation to Mexico which should
be easy
for you to remember because we
barely
ever go on vacation so that's
how long
ago it wasn't was just after
that
because I'd read this book
automating
things with Python that's like
oh this
is cool and so you know there's
some
scripts that I still use today
some
minor things but what I wanted
is I
wanted to have a Python script
that
would run on a server would
check to see
if there was a whatsapp message
and then
would send that via text
message to me
and night and then in theory I
could
respond and it would go back
but I never
got that far because the last
the
library that I used you know
exhibited
abnormal behavior from what
they works
would expect to be hitting the
API or
whatever and my number got
banned boom
done and you know I got a note
said
you're banned
there's no way to resolve this
this
number may never ever be used
again so
and if you don't have the phone
number
that's an actual cell phone you
can't
even register for what's that
that's how
they do it I think it can only
be on one
phone at a time
and so that's the story of how
I got
banned from whatsapp well
that's it but
besides being a boring story
okay you
asked for it it's typical it's
difficult
is what it is
companies are a bunch of douche
bags
they don't even have the
wherewithal so
they could maybe resolve
something that
was a mistake
yeah do anything to just screw
with them
yeah in fact I did write a note
to info
at something or to support or
help
whatever never even replies
they do it
but somehow those electronic
messages go
right into the shredder yeah
dev no as
we say and in the final thing
from the
lowlands there's the phrase as
you know
they they've already co-opted
Black
Friday we have Black Friday
where they
love that you know as much as
they hate
America how do they get
suckered into
this I know
pickup Albany hates America but
yet they
get cyber well this is the
stupidity of
Black Friday where there's no
Thanksgiving I know that it's
just it's
a purely commercial vibe and
for some
reason they love it they'll the
Dutch
love a good deal I don't want
to say
they're there historically
cheap asses
but the phrase is a deal the
phrase that
pays these days in the ever
changing
media landscape is beans Russia
binge-watch er beans fortune
binge-watching you nailed it
beans watch
it are you - beans watch it
they finally
figured out binge-watching
between Black Friday in that
they're
doomed yeah they're taking the
worst
elements of a bear worst the
worst alter
I know I know it's maxing him
out so
disappointing this is the
problem
yes all right that's what I got
now we
and then we had a nice family
gathering
for my dad and that was all
beautiful
and everybody came and so I'm
ready to
go back home but not before I
kick off
our cop 25 coverage which has
been
wall-to-wall here this is what
everyone
is wall-to-wall on democracy
now here in
fact I even got to two or three
clips
from Democracy Now but the
first one
would be from him from the
British side
now ocean deoxygenation this is
the big
one ladies and gentlemen this
is this is
what came out of cop 25 this is
what
everybody is speaking of now
ocean
deoxygenation probably haven't
heard of
that but it's a very big total
oceans
losing oxygen due to climate
change
which will in turn affect
hundreds of
millions of people according to
a new
United Nations report
scientists are
calling this the ultimate
wake-up call
to humanity well the ocean
represents 97
percent of the physical
habitable space
on I love how they bring in a
97% number
again this is genius this is
very good
messaging we have the 97% of all
scientists are all in agreement
that the
humans are breaking the earth
and now
they bring in the the oceans
cover 90%
of the earth the ocean
represents 97% of
the so it represents 7 it
represents
physical habitable space on the
planet
it is central to sustaining all
life on
Earth the major drivers the
ocean oxygen
loss
what the hell is he talking
about he
says that the oceans represent
97% of
all inhabitable
yes I was waiting I was waiting
for you
to stop me on that well I did I
stopped
you what is the what what's he
talking
about this this bullcrap is
done there's
97% of the earth is B we're all
living
on the ocean what is she saying
physical habitable space let's
roll it
back and let's listen again
because this
is the report all right well
the ocean
represents 97% of the physical
habitable
space on the planet it is
central to
sustaining all life on Earth ok
it
represents 90% of the 7 97% of
the habit
of habitable if you're a fish
there's an interesting little
statement
you got there anyway we
continue the
major drivers of ocean oxygen
lost our
climate change and different
pollution
with the latter affecting
coastal areas
scientists say rising sea
temperature
caused by carbon dioxide and
other
greenhouse gas emissions is
leading to
oxygen depleted zones the
report found
the loss of oxygen from the
world's
ocean is increasingly
threatening fish
species such as tuna Marlin and
sharks
oh it's just horrible and this
was this
was the headline this was what
they were
jamming down our throats I'm
not quite
sure what it has to do with
climate
change other than the one of
the authors
of the report the spokes hole
was
everywhere she'd I think she
did a news
hit on every network from I saw
her on
well I didn't see it on CNN
international I don't think but
she was
on euronews she was on France
24 she was
on Sky News al Jazeera and she
and you
just look at her and you
already don't
like her I'm just telling you
when you
see or Meena Epps I think is
her name
she's my big a Aussie glasses
thick rims
reds red wearing red hair tied
back big
those big rock like Nancy Pelosi
necklaces and the ones with the
big
stone what is up with that why
do women
think that's cool does that
look cool
well as replaced pearls oh
that's what
it is
look I'm not wearing pearls is
that the
idea I think that might be it
I'm not
sure this never I kind of agree
with you
I think most iterations of this
earth
there are some fine and erases
that are
nice but most iterations are
ugly it's
what you expect on the Madeleine
Albright you know it's like
anyway Mina
EPS and here she is so it's
different
she's the yeah I can tell you
exactly
what she is she's the director
of global
marine and polar programs
whatever that
is here we go so it's a
different type
of crisis it's the crisis of
the ocean
and you're absolutely right but
it has
been missing from the climate
negotiation and very much been
focused
on what's been going on at land
so I
think it's very notice she says
it's
been missing from the climate
change
negotiation which is a little
different
from the climate change
conversation or
the reporting or the
fear-mongering it's
clearly being used as a chip in
the
negotiation I don't know what
are we
negotiating about is it
something I
missed is this about the money
I betcha
I've been missing from the
climate
change negotiation and very
much been
focused on what's been going on
at land
so I think it's very timely
this is a
blue cock and and finally the
ocean now
tell me what she's saying here
this is a
blue and I can't hear the word
I'd
listen to get it so I think
it's very
timely this is a blue cock and
and fine
I mean I know what it sounds
like but it
can't be it was the blue cock
that's
yeah blue cock but what is a
blue cock
well I don't know if you've
been to
Portugal maybe so I think it's
very
timely this is a blue cock and
and
finally the oceans which
contains 97% of
living space is getting the
attention
that they deserve so what we're
seeing
or what we've seen is actually
a decline
in 2% of the global oxygen
level we have
been reduced by 2% and it
doesn't sound
like a lot but just these two
small
changes will have enormous
implications
but within that is actually
mass a lot
of regional differences so we
can take
an example I'd say of the south
southeast coast of California
in the
deeper waters we've seen a
decline in
30% of oxygen level in the last
25 years
so how does this all affect you
know
like in the ocean and
presumably us and
because we're depending on if
all the
regulatory systems so
deoxygenation will
have an impact on biodiversity
on
biomass of commercially
important
species and vulnerable species
or rare
species but also habitats so
those
oxygen rich and and which are
favourable
conditions to some species will
shrink
these
shrinking these habitats but
also we are
altering the energy and
biochemical
cycles within the ocean and
that do you
hear this bullcrap do you hear
I mean
she said nothing that makes any
sense
whatsoever got blah blah blah
their oxygen per les brewery
that means
these upward systems which are
absolutely crucial to sustain
these
fisheries that's bringing that
the
nutrient-rich waters no here
comes into
the surface areas so we are
seeing that
species are migrating because
of this
strong the IUCN did is that we
work with
67 different experts around the
world
putting together this report
looking at
this cumulative impact but also
the
linkages to climate change so
this is
all those different parts of
the puzzles
are coming together and of
those climate
change has an amplifying effect
to these
issues and we're already seeing
the
changes and they'll dry quickly
of all
the operators that we've done
to the
oceans so what I see here is a
hijack
it's a hijack some other green
came in
the ocean people are trying to
get into
the action the blue cocks
they're coming
in they want some action and
then what
does she say at the end well of
course
we're looking at the linkages
between
this and climate change this
climate
change isn't so it's not really
a part
of your climate change story
yet she's
the star of the show not to
start the
show here nobody on the
youtubes or the
googles really really well I
don't know
how to spell it
nina Epps EP PS let me just
Mina nope
that doesn't look right
oh yeah Mina EPS Minn a double
n double
P Mina EPS okay and there she
is yes all
right now he gets closer Oh her
have you
seen her before you put that
put a
beanie on her a green one and
have her
go stay in that red one I
should be like
Meg these big stones around her
neck
yeah yeah I told you
don't you know she's all about
something
I'll get the big smile mm-hmm
well the intelligent hipster
glasses
while you're looking I shall
play you
the the report that everybody's
buzzing
about and of course the reason
why we
have to drive a hundred
kilometers an
hour max here in the country
why the
farmers have to cut their
output by 50%
because the results are in
and Europe is failing climate
the
European Environment agency's
report
shows that we you could do
better when
it comes to curbing emissions
many of
the targets which we set for
ourselves
for 2020 will not be reached so
you
could say no we are not on the
right
road we should implement better
and if
we are serious about the phone
the lion
agenda towards the Green Deal
and the
sustainable development you
noticed by
the way they talk here of a
green deal
not the the the green new deal
just the
green deal which we were
obviously
unaware of and if we are so now
we've
heard this before the green
deal just by
itself ok I forgot meant better
and if
we are serious about the phone
the lion
agenda towards the Green Deal
and the
sustainable development goals
we will
also have to come with really
new
policies in house gas emission
will
reach full thousand megatons of
equivalent co2 by 2030 with a
bit of
effort D you could reduce its
emission
to almost three thousand five
hundred
megatons at the same date and
then
achieve campaign neutrality by
2050 if
Europe wants to get serious
about going
green
there is one sector that can be
ignored
Transport Systems the black
spot remains
essentially on the issue of
greenhouse
gases since today the transport
sector
has emissions that are 30%
higher than
those of 1990 over the last
four years
greenhouse gas emissions from
transport
have started to rise again
faced with
the scale of the task the
European
agency stresses that solutions
to exist
technologies are available but
it also
insist on the full
implementation of you
policies
yeah so what they're saying
there
Europe you failed this is why
the Dutch
all of a sudden work because
they all
want to be the best of the
class the
politicians they all want to
look good
in Brussels they look at what
we did we
made our stupid slaves drives
drive
slower yeah we'll get them we
need new
and innovative ways of curbing
our
carbon emissions
don't drive slave everybody has
to go
electric John all the cabs all
around
the whole country will all have
to go
electric
it's they're going they've gone
crazy
here and people just like
dudududududu
okay that's all fine now so
I'll take us
up to cop and you guy know you
have
clips I want you to jump going
you have
two clips and it's really less
about cop
and more about the underlying
currents
that are going around this
thing but let
me take us to Madrid first now
this was
you know there's been lots of
people out
on the street and they they're
running
around and it's very you know
very a
very big deal so they're
getting a lot
of coverage they're spraying
with high
pressure hoses they're riding
in the
streets of Madrid thanks to this
operation so here are the
primeira the
Spanish guys saying because
they're
supposed to be in Chile yeah
this is
come on over do it in Madrid we
will
love to see you and that's paid
a lot of
money well they're there and
they have a
new chance that I picked up it
could not
be yes you did you saw the new
chance I
did I think it's the same one I
mean
it's not I guess if you want to
call it
new but it's formulaic but go on
[Applause]
[Music]
[Music]
[Applause]
you got me not heard I heard
one word
I'm just yelling the same old
formulaic
Oh what do we want no I like
this people
have the power standing there
like like
she's lying socialist means she
being
sprayed by water cannons people
have the
power crush yeah you got the
power
here's your power right here oh
I'm down
so then Greta arrived in now
she arrived
in Lisbon
before it to the wrong place
she was on
a catamaran or something or the
guy that
they flew over yeah so I have a
couple
of bits here now this was from
Democracy
Now I checked these are not
your clips
and this was also before I
guess Amy
went to whatever secret studio
she had
this is
right the climate justice
speech what
what this is and you this is
kind of the
the overall theme here
it's somebody please shouldn't
think of
the children just like they
have up near
that greta of course but
they've got a
hundred kids and all of them
are cute
you know they're all in the
fifteen year
old range limits thirteen
fifteen you
know they're well-spoken
they're they're
mad they're really mad and
they're up on
the podium and they're mad and
they're
just mad so here is the the
speech we
are youth movements that fights
for
climate justice
we fight for climate justice
because our
house is on fire and because
for the
climate together with thousands
of
students many times this year
our
demands are simple in portugal
we need
to reach carbon neutrality by
2030 we
need to keep fossil fuels
including gas
on the ground we need to
provide clean
energy for all and we need to
cancel new
airport projects
Monte's you included this is
interesting
Monty shoe is brand new airport
that
they've been planning and
Portugal which
is going to be massive for
runways and
they want to make it the hub
for cheap
airlines which i think is
economically
probably a really good idea yeah
and well not for these kids they
apparently they don't want they
don't
want cheap flights no cheap
flights
we need a system change not a
climate
change we are still far from
winning we
know that change disturbs the
ones in
power they tell us our
countries and
Bish's in climate policies but
we know
it isn't they tell us they are
doing
what they can but we know
they're not
but we also know that's it this
is the
struggle of our generation and
we will
not give up
we all have raised like a wave
to demand
climate justice for and we need
everyone
to join us if we lose everybody
loses
now we are like grete heading
to cop 25
entry will meet with many
countries
including the global we'll be
protesting
once again against the priority
given to
profit over our lives of course
these
kids they do they do realize
that
politicians are full of crap I
like that
part where they say these guys
will take
profit over our lives any day
that's
good and you should know that
because of
course that's true it's just
been
misguided that's the sad part
the seas
are rising and so are we thank
you for
having inspired the youth being
radical
in your speech thank you for
showing
politicians and corporations
that will
no more accept the climate
chaos they've
provoked great don't stop
because
together we are going to change
the
system in the main climate
justice for
all we are the ones we have
been waiting
for and we will put out the
fire in our
house thank you in
now what was now that was just
kind of
to give you an idea these kids
and they
went on the train with Greta to
Madrid
that's how they got there but
the UN
Secretary General also spoke
and he said
something new and which I think
is we
got to figure out exactly what
it means
or how it will be implemented
this is
Antonio Guterres who is the UN
secretary-general what is still
lacking
is political will political
will to put
a price on carbon political
will to stop
subsidies on fossil fuels this
to me was
a winner
I mean it's so good he doesn't
even know
how good it is yeah if an
American did
that it would be like out
genius fossil
fuels right but that's not the
thing
that I was talking about
political will
to stop subsidies on fossil
fuels
political will to stop building
coal
power plants from 2020 onwards
political
will to shift taxation from
income to
carbon taxing pollution instead
of
people we simply have to stop
digging
and drilling and take advantage
of the
vast possibilities offered by
renewable
energy nature based solutions
so we need
to shift from taxation of
carbon instead
of taxation of income this is a
big idea
well it's a big idea it's a bit
specious
I would say they of course they
never
remove taxes you end up taxing
carbon
and income yes and at the at
that time
either we have days at the end
of 24
hours yes and
but have what is he
taxing carbon what does this
mean well
if you put a price on carbon I
mean less
well let's start with the
American
economy I think we're bringing
trillion
dollars in tax income tax money
something like that yeah I
really exact
number I wrote it up in that
essay how
are you gonna get debt by
taxing carbon
especially when everyone's
really
running away from it well that
would be
the idea the idea is you emit X
amount
of carbon and we calculate that
by the
type of vehicle you drive the
type of
house you heat or Endor cool if
you eat
meat so you get a number you
get a score
and that score is what you're
going to
be taxed on so the idea is just
like
Bloomberg always says you know
it's like
we've gotta tax the poor people
so they
don't kill themselves in this
case so
they don't kill the earth
well this is one of these
things were
well how do you tax this without
creating an onerous system of
monitoring
it may be the idea John know
that I'm
that's what I keep away from
you only
have two clips from the
operation and as
Amy introducing the situation
in the
process of her telling us why
they're
doing this thing in Madrid
incitive I
think is valparaiso or one of
the places
in Chile yeah I don't know
someplace in
Chile they were supposed to do
it the
chilean guy the president says
now we
don't want this is ass'll it's
not a
good time for me right it's not
a good
time for me right riots in the
streets
we don't need you guys here to
make it
worse so of course that that's
a me just
accuses him of being a
right-wing guy of
course ball that doesn't want
to doesn't
want to deal with climate
change when
when he's got more to deal with
she doesn't address it honestly
but
there's a bunch of things she
does bring
into the picture which is this
and I
think that last clip that you
played is
representative of this idea
which is to
to get this population control
one-world
government let's change let's
bring cut
you can't do climate change
without
social justice you got over
there but
it's the idea of linking the
two is
become very apparent can I be
in I can I
binge-watched social justice so
let's
just play clip one here we're
broadcasting from Madrid Spain
where the
United Nations Climate Change
Conference
known as you know I'm sorry I
gotta stop
she sounds like I'm
broadcasting live
from the surface of the Moon I
want you
to know how important this is
to get
that vibe from her she's a
little more
chipper in that way where black
loves
going to these events and
becoming the
only you know she broadcast
remote from
there and they're just like a
minor
celebrity oh yeah
does she have her big rock
necklace on
baby has but amy has one of
those you
know she does yeah but she
wouldn't were
in the television we're
broadcasting
Madrid Spain where the United
Nations
climate change conference known
as cop
25 began Monday and will
continue
through next week as
environmental
leaders from around the world
gather to
negotiate global solutions to
the
climate crisis the summit was
supposed
to be held in Santiago Chile
but the
country's right-wing president
sebastián
piñera cancelled the summit
just over a
month ago amidst massive
protests
against economic inequality and
austerity Spain's president
Pedro
Sanchez then offered to host
the summit
activists have converged in
Madrid for
the summit and are hosting an
alternative summit of their own
Kumba de
so see olive oyl clima the
social summit
for the climate the alternative
summit
has been organized by social
justice and
environmental groups to draw
attention
to the ongoing political
repression in
Chile corporate influence on
the climate
summit Spain's own failure to
address
the climate crisis and the
Eurocentrism
of the climate conference which
is being
held in Europe for the third
year in a
row the alternative summit
begins
Saturday morning that's
tomorrow at the
University of Madrid and will
kick off
tonight with a climate march
through the
city centre this is very
encouraging
what I'm hearing here it is
because the
apparently a group has figured
out that
this climate negotiation which
I've
never heard these these cops
called
climate negotiations but
obviously what
they're doing is the
negotiating money
which will go to industry
government
coffers people already have
thank you
they're going to take money
from poor
people and from taxpaying
people and
give it to people who already
have money
yes and they figured it out and
that's
why now of course there they
put that
under the banner of social
justice which
is you know we know we'll be a
co-opted
misguided mission it always
seems to be
but it's encouraging that at
least
people see the bullcrap for
what it is
well I know but they but these
people
these social justice
or your splinter group this is a
splinter group splinter group
yes
good good name so you have a
splinter
group coming up in there and
they're
marching and rioting and
they're making
this chance I think that went
earlier
that you had there was one of
their
chants yeah they have people
power man
behind Dean's votes for the
people power
and and they are protesting
that regular
cop thing even though Amy can't
get her
head around that because the
social
movement operation which has a
warehouse
nearby put her up in her stand
put us
through that's Gd she's all
well she's
in her case it's hard to say
what she is
but she's she's very happy and
and
joyful that she's been
important to kind
of brings a little of that in
we're
broadcasting from the
convergence space
that activists are using as a
hub for
their organizing it's a Union
Hall and
former monastery that today is
covered
in colorful protest art and
bustling
with organizers that have
pulled the
alternative summit together
with only a
few months notice so we're
right here in
the Cumbre social in the social
summit
for the climate with one of the
organizers Tom pool hearts he's
a
journalist and activist with
ecologists
and action it's great to be
with you
welcome to Democracy Now Thomas
we sit
here we the this place is
surrounded by
posters maybe we can do a broad
view of
the walls
it says plots of the los
pueblos the
plaza of the people
sylvain most la tierra save the
earth as
well let's decolonize that is a
very
important issue we have a huge
historic
depth with millions of people
who were
slaved from Africa to America
and never have been just as
about that
so the issue of anti racism and
anti :
ISM is very important for the
March also
today at 6:00 in the afternoon
so
hopefully thousands of people
were
gathering in this very
important tell us
about this place that we're in
it is
former monastery years ago but
it was a
trade union building since the
80s yeah
that was four days and she made
him stop
because it was like becoming
too obvious
what's actually going on I mean
she's
the one who invited him on
she's no
reason to cut him off like that
but this
is what's going on there's a
bunch of
these these lunatics that are
just a
bunch of Communists just be
kind of
honest about it and then
Spain's loaded
with them I mean we probably
have a
number of communist Spanish
communists
that listen to our or show I
hope so but
that's but when they start
going on and
honestly there's no discussion
by this
guy about climate change is
about
reparations yeah yeah injustice
and
that's the negotiation money
that's the
negotiation right there in a
nutshell
okay we got to negotiate hey
which is
number 25 already where's our
piece of
the pie what are you guys
negotiating
and there's already a lot less
a guy a
lot of this triggered was it
began in
Chile a couple of major oil and
gas
companies apparently sponsored
part of
cop 25 through in a bunch of
money which
you you'd think that they'd be
happy to
get this money from these
people because
I'm a dirty dirty money but as
soon as
the money came in all these
socialists
started demanding that this is
co-option
and we do we don't want your
money right
and all this sort of thing has
become an
issue now you have this
splinter group
sounds like somebody wasn't
invited to
the exon party hey man that
party it up
over there
big giant prawns man and they
were on
ice there's a big giant thing
and
they're on ice and they're all
spread
around and the cocktail sauce
was
delicious you'd grab by these
giant
strip and dip it in the sauce
and it was
good
you're making me hungry seven
here I
haven't eaten prawn so it was
Michaels
ed who sent me this whole whole
hour of
one of Amy's reports and she
interviewed
some some other teenagers
here's another
Swedish teenager always fun to
laugh at
accents and kids so I should
say as
we're speaking here your pal
Greta is in
Lisbon she's just made landfall
and she
is about to actually speak
others are
speaking first at the news
conference
and how excited are you if she
does
begin to speak as we're doing
this
segment then you'll have to
shut you up
cuz you're not important well go
directly live to her your
father's a
scientist yes yes so I've
always grown
up with lots of scientific
talking
around a house and it made me
really
curious to learn more
this kid is programmed what do
you think
of our president President
Trump in the
United States climate change is
a hoax
well yeah listen to the United
science
it's it's their responsibility
to read
up and educate themselves Oh
leaders of
the world this kid is so
programmed with
a new term United Science
you've got to
listen to the United science
she said
that is a new drummer I think
she flew
on that one on her own well I'd
like it
united science is a good one I
like in
fact I wrote it down
science here's the second and
timecode
noted what message do you have
for world
leaders listen to what the
science is
saying do we need to
drastically reduce
our carbon footprints I don't
take care
of our environment it's your
responsibility to do that and
not put it
on us we can't wait any longer
oh poor kids poor kids
fire what's going on house is
on fire
her house is on fire that she's
been
programmed the fire department
over
there put the fire out
that's what that's what Greta
is doing
Greta is there to put out the
fire maybe
some for distant future we're
gonna look
back on this Greta phenomenon
and wonder
how exactly how insane well
let's during
this era now that I'm glad you
brought
this I'm glad you brought this
up
because it's very easy for us
boomers although sorry I have
to stop
for a moment I now have official
official boomer cutoff date you
are not
a boomer if born after August
23rd 1964
nine months after Kennedy was
shot so
I'd be me me being September
3rd I am
actually a gen Xer but all out
for
purposes of this show I'll be a
boomer
because it's more fun than the
world's
oldest gen Xer yes the OG gen
Xer that's
me but I remember all the
things that
we've been told would kill us
and and
I'm not I'm not alone I didn't
know that
he was still doing shows but
John
Stossel who I think he was he
was on Fox
for Fox News and then he was
kind of
pushed off to Fox Business News
and now
he's on YouTube but he's still
doing
great wait
at least give the guy a little
more
credit than that john stott was
a
regular on the big boyd network
he was
on a be oh you're right he was
on a be
three years and years and years
and
years but the problem was
apparently he
was a Republican well he may be
they
can't have Republicans doing
these shows
because apparently he liked to
draw his
two cents words in once in a
while well
he didn't even opt for the
typical arty
deal which is what you do when
you get
thrown off mainstream with Fox
we
couldn't get any traction on
Fox because
I want to stop for a second we
put our
executive hats on for a minute
sure
thing he never really was a Fox
type he
always looked like a network
type he
looked like there is a network
type this
is why I don't think alarm is
gonna do
very well you're right it's the
hair
it's the hole it's but also he
stalled
he's also he also maybe a bit
too honest
for Fox I mean he's he's I've
always
thought he was a pretty decent
guy I
thought he always kind of his
whole
thing was he was like the
original
Tucker Carlson in terms of
being a gas
that he found out that these
horrible
things have been going on can
you
believe it that the public's
been
getting screwed
holy macro I can't but he was
he was
just just this type of guy and
but he's
always had that network you
know the big
three Network look ABC in
particular and
we had a local newscaster here
that was
one of these people I can't
remember her
name she was here a long time
ago but
she was a big-shot ABC type
doing one of
those you know shows we have
two or
three people yakking about some
story
60-minute clone and she quit
and became
a local news reader here and she
couldn't do it
because she was and they used
to see
that she was a national type
couldn't
work local maybe local and I
think the
same things true with Fox
there's only
been a very few Network people
and there
have been a few Network people
from the
big boy networks to Fox that
have moved
over and been very comfortable
over it
flow whoo-hoo tonsils not one
of them no
but who did move over oh
there's a bunch
of lesser guys they're mostly
field
reporters and I could think of
a few
names I'd have to go look him
up hmm but
there's a there's more than a
few that
are at Fox it used to be at ABC
or CBS
hmm well Stossel is doing his
his same
show basically on YouTube and
someone
pointed out to me and I just
pulled the
first 35 seconds because it it
kind of
put me onto an idea that
environmental
catastrophe bearing down on us
I keep
hearing that we're killing the
earth how
dare you
you have stolen my dreams in my
childhood but wait I've been a
consumer
reporter for years I've covered
so many
scares plague famine and
perpetual war
will kill us we're gonna run
out of oil
nuclear power will give us
cancer killer
bees swarm ever closer bird food
flesh-eating bacteria the list
of
terrible things that we're
going to get
us is law and yet we're living
longer
than ever
none of those scares turned out
to be as
frightening as the warnings but
I'm told
global warming is different we
are in
the beginning of a mass
extinction so
you know Stossel was probably a
Boomer I
think he's talking about my age
I don't
know if he's older or younger
but I I agree and I just wanted
to take
us down a little short to a
trip down
memory lane
when I was greta's age is what
I'm
calling this segment today when
I was
greta's age 1978 I was Stossel
was born
in 47 oh stossel's big boomer
boom boom
boom boom dharma he's up in
your neck of
the woods boomer and so he
that's why
they kicked him off the air
because he's
old and he did a report on 5g I
know he
did so old 5g ear out that's it
done you
don't fit anymore but when I
was Greta's
age this was my my segment 1978
I was 14
so just a little bit younger
but when
Greta started she was she was
that age
when I was greta's age this is
what I
was being scared with in 1977
the worst
winter in a centuries
the cold ripped the Midwest for
weeks on
great wizard paralyzed cities
of the
Northeast one desperate night
in Buffalo
eight people froze to death in
Bushnell was on the road at
night I just
absolutely stopped it was
afraid of
being stuck in the car all
night long
with the cold and the wind
running out
of gas and then what I think
that if we
had to go through a real bad
winter just
like we just went through
I think we'd have to think
about moving
someplace house
where the brutal buffalo winter
might
become common all over the
United States
climate experts believe the
next ice age
is on its way recordings a
recent
evidence it could come sooner
than
anyone can explain
[Music]
and weather stations in the far
north
temperatures have been dropping
for 30
years long free of summer eyes
are now
blocked year round
according to some climatologist
within a
lifetime we might be living in
the next
ice age
if you don't think that didn't
worry me
as a kid and it was only one
show that
I'm highlighting here we didn't
have the
Internet did you catch the
voice by the
way did you recognize the
authority boy
a little bit yes Leonard Nimoy
dr. Spock
there is little doubt that
someday the
ice will return at least eight
times in
the past million years it has
advanced
and retreated with clockwork
regularity
clockwork we are unprepared for
the next
advance the result could be
hunger and
death on a scale unprecedented
in all of
history
what scientists are telling us
now is
that the threat of an ice age
is not as
remote as they once thought
during the
lifetime of our grandchildren
arctic
cold and perpetual snow could
turn most
of the inhabitable portions of
our
planet into a polar desert so I
just
play this for the people who
are young
who are like these old boomers
shut up
we've been through this kids
this is one
time where it makes sense we've
been
through this we've been through
all of
it and it was the exact
opposite and it
was the same people John
Holdren for
what has actually wanted to give
apparently two very famous guys
from
that era I mean most of the
guests of
swish their sides to go to the
other way
because they did this where the
money is
yeah but they're still one or
two
holdouts oh yeah
don't think we're going into an
ice age
I'm with him I've been so
affected by
Leonard Nimoy from my youth
that I'm
still I am still believing I
believe it
can be it can be true so and
that's what
the media does and everyone's
happy
because the climatologist get
money
Leonard Nimoy got money now
whoever
produced this this series got
money it's
there's lots of money
you know there's a lot of doing
this
yeah well yeah they would still
get to
the bottom of why this is so
important
to so many people and it's just
definitely population control
oh well that's always and yeah
in that
thing I think even mentioned
five
billion people on the planet
they're all
going to perish no going to die
eventually
that's extinction I'm surprised
I'm as a
cohort what what ecosystems have
collapsed she said there's
ecosystems
are collapsing yeah bro it's
ones I
don't know
and I'm sure there's some bug
I'm somebody find it some bum
knowing ya
girl yes oh I am I've two
quickies
before we move on to unless you
have
anything else on cop 25 no I'm
I'm good
with cup 25 sure I'll have more
next
show God want a note from one
of our
producers who shall remain
anonymous
I've worked in the marketing
department
at Walmart for 20 years I know
who this
is he says we met at the
Fayetteville
meet up some years back I can
confirm
that Walmart has never paid off
a
layaway for a native ad Walmart
is way
too cheap Walmart would never
spend the
money when there are good
Samaritans
willing to do it nice theory
but false
however I'll pitch it in the
next
meeting that's a no agenda
producer for
you you do that I find it hard
to
believe I still think it may be
the
night find it hard to believe -
I mean
sometimes you can be working
for a
company don't really understand
corporate well but he's he's
using the
corporate marketing so and then
this was
very a very good tip from
producer
Jonathan you know telling me
about you
know how I solved the problem
with the
with the robot coffee machine
he says
all just go in any gas station
buy a $25
prepaid Visa card like okay
thanks you
know a lot of a lot of effort
to go
through for to not get spammed
by a
robotic coffee machine but it's
the
second part of his note that is
interesting this is an official
no
agenda travel tip travel tip
as a secret side benefit and
don't let
this get out he says you
collector to
yell traveled you don't let
this get out
you can use this card now in
flight on
any airline and buy whatever
you want it
will always be approved if it
had any
balance at all and you will
enjoy your
drinks and food for free
apparently
they're storing swipes only in
the air
due to the unreliability of
plane data
and it also slows down the
process so
they only run them when they're
in
cellular range they prefer a
small loss
in the lesser known fringe
cases in
exchange for easy sales in the
sky a no
agenda tip and it's not
traceable to you
I'm just saying that if you run
out of
money on your card you did you
know it's
sometimes not a big deal is
that a
better way like this big rock
necklace
wait you have a girlfriend
I thought that was really funny
okay we
do not recommend this this
Larsson
tipped oh yeah so on the on the
heels of
there being quite a faction of
people
believing that Drudge Matt
Drudge has
sold The Drudge Report and that
someone
else is now running it and he
hates it
and he hates it hates Trump or
whatever
I have never really do you look
at
Drudge Report I've never really
gone
there
I think 10-15 years ago I used
to hit
it's just a linked list I mean
just
there's no reporting in there
generally
once in a while there's
something most
times just links to other stuff
I think
it's because he never did an
RSS feed
that I just never followed it's
like get
a feed together man I never did
that he
sold it
well that's that's the that's
what the
word is and well so the reason
why I
bring it up cuz I don't care
is that a fan site of The
Drudge Report
and the fan site has 1.3 million
followers tweeted the best
podcast in
the universe with at Adam Curry
at the
real dvorák hashtag ITM and a
link to no
agenda show calm oh nice yeah
and then
the gap guys jump to new
listeners and
then the gap guys jumped in and
they got
a couple hundred thousand so
it's like
we yeah it's nice we got we got
some
link love it's probably all
BOTS who the
hell knows 1.3 million BOTS I
don't know
I don't know if there's any any
anything
going on there yeah it's kind
of the
problem
yeah and see there anything
else oh yes
I did have 3 more things I
wanted to
mention a beautiful Christmas
animated
no agenda is out if you haven't
seen it
I'm sure you have you saw this
place
it's I mean if it is and it
really is
something for the producers
because if
you don't know our language
then you're
not even gonna understand what
they're
singing but it's a great job
beautiful
Thank You Jennifer
Dame Jennifer I have a new
search engine
to try out oh yeah you might
like this
as well it's a swiss cows calm
and
they're in switzerland you know
they
have a big no data tracking
storing
promise and they have a lot of
no that's
pretty much what they are
they're an AI
company
so they sell AI solutions and
they have
some some interesting little
widgets in
their search engine but my
point being
it doesn't seem to track you
they pledge
they don't they're in
Switzerland and
it's fast
and it gives you good results
so it's
something to try something to
and that
just came up but we'll give it
to
once-over and give it a
once-over and
the final thing oh yes I came
up with a
name I was waiting for this will
probably take us into
impeachment you
know dave winer my co-inventor
of
podcasting he blogs a lot all
the time
too and you know and i
subscribe to his
feet although somehow i get his
stuff
18 times i know how many feeds
he has
and stuff was messed up in my
aggregator
but he is complete he is like
your Lib
joes he's completely off the
rails about
Trump thinks Nancy Pelosi would
be the
best president ever but the
thing that
got me the thing that got me is
he now
claims that NPR is clearly now
being run
by Republicans
because he didn't like the NPR
reporting
on some of the impeachment
hearings and
he's just cuz all this and I
have to
find an alternative source NPR
is now is
just all all Republicans I'm
like
what do you call a guy like
Dave Winer
cuz I'm looking for you know
you have
your lib Jose I don't have any
Jose and
by the way for people who don't
understand or are new lib Jose
is the
Jose are journalists and these
are two
friends of John's who are
semi-retired
but they're the big boys
they've written
for the big big publications
for the big
papers but they go unnamed
further and
they're there we don't like the
the term
Lib tard so Lib Joe makes more
sense and
so I was looking for a name for
a guy
like whiner and then it hit me
a Lib div
oh that's actually a good name
it's a
grater there's a ton of live
Lib Deb's
here in the Bay Area that work
at Google
Nicole you know it's also it's
also Jack
Dorsey yes
Lib dev exactly Lib dev and you
know Lib
dev is also you know if you
ever get
into your Linux package manager
you'll
see a lot of libs and devs so
it's kind
of as a triple meaning but yeah
it's
like Lib Deb's and that's what
we got to
be on the lookout for because
they're
everywhere
and they're and they're also
trying to
change open-source development
itself
you know removing terms like
master and
slave from your
from your projects from your
master/slave arrangement yeah
from your
github it's crazy anyway I know
what do
you do about male and female
plugs oh
there's all kinds of 75
different kinds
of plugs yeah
you mean like regular plugs
plugs plugs
75 genders oh I got you so
sorry I'm out
of control
no not really
let me see so where we at you
know what
I'll tell you what I'd love to
why don't
we tease when we tease some
some 25 for
45 stuff
whatever that means that's
impeachment
the 25th for the 45th president
hello
we'll tease some so coming up
in just a
minute we're gonna do some
impeachment
stuff but first I'd like to
thank you
for your courage and say in the
morning
to you of the man who put the C
in cop
25 John C in the morning you
mr. Adam
curry also in the morning all
ships to
see boots on the ground feet in
the air
subs in the water and all the
Dames the
nights out there in the morning
to our
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it's the
troll room now I apologize the
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dropped out for a moment there
and you
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always always people in there
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it's there it's a great place
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okay well there are so a little
bit
about impeachment thank you
yeah well
first I'd like to remind
everybody
favorite clip you know I want
to remind
everybody as we go into the
impeachment
segment tomorrow Monday the 9th
there
will be new hearings but also
tomorrow
you're gonna be supposedly
gonna push
them off to Tuesday oh I
thought they
were going to do it tomorrow
purposefully because of the
Inspector
General report that's coming
out which
will include thousands of sealed
indictments the tick stalkers
as they're
known they're ticked occurs
people like
like Hannity Hannity and agenor
by the
way Media Matters has noticed
that Joe
digenova and Victoria to Singh
have
vanished from Fox they're no
longer on
the Fox Business talking up a
thousands
of mendel thousands of sealed
indictments they've they've
been de
platformed well you know you
can't keep
pulling this crap that this is
gonna
happen and by the way on
Wednesday these
always got too many too specific
we have clips of him Wednesday
on a
Monday saying on Wednesday
right but it
he's yeah they're really gone
now so and
and I did have one I was
thinking about
these these hearings and this
whole
thing I have a question I just
need to
understand one thing in the if
I if I
were in these hearings and we
all know
they're really boring and
people are
asking all the wrong questions
the
entertainment value is zero
point one
it's just nothing of any and
CNN has has
a lowest ratings in three years
amidst
they're in constant impeachment
coverage
but if I if I were asking
questions I
would say I would like to know
regarding
this phone call that the
president made
with the president of Ukraine
zalinsky
why is it that the otherwise
reality
based television show veep the
vice
president uses video screens
with all
the world leaders yet our
president is
like on a bakelite phone and
and they
got people writing down what he
said
what why is this why don't we
have the
cool video screens or do we or
is it
just the president with that
big phone
with all the buttons on his desk
seriously
veep is a very realistic show
to some
degree or was and she's always
calling
up world leaders on that you
know the
secret closed-circuit system it
has a
name I don't know what it is
and it's
the encrypted video we had we
have the
president of Bolivia on the on
the on
the video system man well they
just use
all the old sets from our man
Flint okay
alright and Anna and just on
the heels
of that I would say I believe I
do
believe I do believe that the
the lady
who had that the Baron the
Baron Trump
joke I think she ruined it for
the
Democrats I think she really
blew it
because that was the only thing
that
really made news
and if you if you went on the
street and
said hey you know what's what
did you
hear about the hearings they'll
say ah
well that meal that woman yeah
she she
shouldn't have said that ever
name
either
well yeah she's a terrible
person I do
have a clip of heard that
somebody
picked up I think from 2003
it's 2006 her name is Pamela
Carlin we
both have the same clip I shall
play it
the Rix pampered prodigal
sanctimonious
imperious white straight sons
of the
powerful do pretty well
everywhere in
the world and they always have
snarky
bisexual Jewish women who want
the
freedom to say what we think
read what
we want
well my clip I think has a
little better
sound I'm not sure but mine has
a little
kicker at the end that you
don't have oh
hold on which what do you what
do you do
what did you name it here in
your clip
list
it's that female judge no
wonder she has
a problem with old white men
because we
have more reason than they do
to love
America the rich pampered
prodigal
sanctimonious incurious white
straight
sons of the powerful do pretty
well
everywhere in the world and
they always
have but what about us
snarky bisexual Jewish women
who want
the freedom to say what we
think read
what we want and love who we
yelling at me well you had a
bigot at
the end at the beginning to
which I
didn't have yeah but that we
you and me
you a meze old white guys we
don't even
love America to love America
now they're
more reason okay yeah and who
said you
can't have love who you want to
love and
say we you want to read what
you want to
read you can she's talking
about this is
being floated by some nutjob
group as a
as a possible but when when
Hillary
Clinton wins in 2020 they'd
like to see
her as a Supreme Court justice
oh can
you imagine yes for the show
I'm I can only just pray that
we just
played and she can't get in
she's
already screwed herself that
you can't
do stuff Lea you can't say this
sort of
thing and expect to get
approved it's
not gonna happen
it was the who was the group
here
no demand justice and of course
the
climate change people
demand justice all right yes so
so she
made it interesting but it was
interesting outside of the
actual
entertainment that portion that
was on
television the whole time yeah
so they
just on my favorite clip mm-hmm
is that
so we have these hearings and
everything
is going you know according to
Democrats
plans and you have you know it's
actually a kind of a I'd say
confirmation or we're headed to
her
confirmation of what Al Green
and Maxine
Waters have wanted to impeach
this
president so he can't be
reelected
mm-hmm which pretty much is
what they
said but wait a minute now that
we're on
a roll it's not that we can't
just bitch
about anything we can think
about and so
what so Al Green has a problem
well the
Speaker I rise because I love
my country
and I have a problem but I also
rise
today with heartfelt regrets it
hurts my
heart mr. speaker to see the
Judiciary
Committee hearing experts on
the topic
of impeachment one of the
seminal issues
of this Congress hearing
experts mr.
speaker and not one person of
color
among the experts what
subliminal
message are we sending to the
world when
we have experts but not one
person of
color are we saying that there
are no
people of color who are experts
on this
topic of impeachment what is
the message
that we're sending and mr.
speaker if I
am wrong I will apologize but
if the
committee is wrong if the
Congress is
wrong what will it do people of
color
for too long have been ignored
by one
party and taken for granted by
the other
too often this happens not
always but
too often it happens
Mr Speaker I refuse to be
ignored and
taken for granted I can
here to represent the people
who are
ignored and taken for granted
not one
person of color among the
constitutional
scholars it seems that there's
a desire
among some to have the output
of people
of color without input from the
people
of color now before we do
anything I'm
gonna give you a clip of the
day for
that fantastic is so fantastic
isn't it
great the guy who is so worried
about
the racists currently occupying
the
White House that's how he would
say it
is it still feels that you know
getting
rid of this horrible scourge on
our
democracy Republic
that's less important than
bitching
about this yeah but he's right
the key
there was he said we've been
taking it
we've been ignored by one party
with
that he means Republicans and
taken of
advantage of by the other no
not taking
advantage but taken for granted
I'll
take it for granted I'm sorry
same
that's even more that's even
better
take it for granted yes the
black boat
is in play I think the black
vote is I
know at least one guy whose
voters in
play you know I think the
number of
wishes being floated around is
thirty
percent of the black votes in
play you
know if if that goes
independent or even
if it doesn't go towards the
Democrats
if it goes in Republicans it's
over I
think even 5% could sway it mmm
it's
gonna take more than that
but if they if they start to
bail on the
Democrats the Democrats are
gonna have
to do something other than take
the
black vote trigger well they've
already
from the what from my vantage
point the
Democrats have already looking
there
they've already started
pandering to the
new black and that's
transgender well
they've been doing that for a
while not
twenty there's not twenty
percent of the
population that's I know but
the who
said it was smart there and
then they're
also pandering mostly Catholic
yeah
Hispanics which is very risky
because
Hispanic will turn Republican
to the
drop of a hat
very quickly although maybe is
that
maybe what this is all about I
pray for
the present all the time Nancy
Pelosi so
she's so prayerful prayerful I'm
prayerful I'm praying for this
I'm
praying for that prayerful did
you see
here Town Hall
a piece of it I didn't record
anything
from it I have we have one
Nancy clip I
have two this is from the town
hall she
did on CNN after the whole red
white and
blue draped in the flags we're
going to
we're going to impeach and
after and she
yelled at the journalist
although of
course you know he's from Fox
so she
doesn't consider him to be a
journalist
and she did town hall
completely set up
of course with you know people
reading
questions the way you want to
do it with
Jake Tapper and the first
question out
of the gate after Jake did some
back-and-forth is you know
obviously you
know why do you why do you want
to do
this now why do you want to
impeach
instead of just win at the
ballot box
some argue that the 2020
election is a
better process for removing a
president
from office what made you
decide to
continue with impeachment
proceedings
despite it being so close to the
election well all kids think
like that
and speak like that of course
that's a
whole year a couple of more
months for
the president to be in office
and I
appreciate your question here's
the
thing here's the thing one of
these what
one of the things that the
President did
was to undermine jeopardize the
integrity of our elections by
asking a
foreign power to intervene you
know what
the ask was to announce an
investigation
into his potential rival this is
interesting and important the
the
narrative has shifted ever so
slightly
ever so slightly from the phone
call and
and requesting the
investigation into
the Biden's although he
actually at the
favor he asked for where he
specifically
said favor according to the
transcript
according to the Mulla report
that's
reported by The Drudge Report
is he said
hey look into this 2016 thing
it seems
like yeah the corrupt
government of
Ukraine was complicit there's
also some
server you know do me a favor
and then
later on it's actually the
Ukrainian
president who starts about the
corruption and then Trump talks
about
Biden but this has shifted now
to the
ask you know what the ad the
reason she
says you know what the ask was
is
because she doesn't
you want to explain it I think
just want
to mess it up or whatever you
know what
the ask was and then she goes
into it
very briefly this is new and
this is
what this is the new the new
mistake
that Trump made is he wanted
president
Solinsky of Ukraine to go on
television
and make a big deal about Joe
Biden that
is now and listen I'll play it
again but
that is now what they're going
after our
elections by asking a foreign
power to
intervene
you know what the ask was to
announce an
investigation into his
potential rival
to announce you know what the
ask was so
she even cut herself off at the
intervene this is very very
weak and if
he isn't stopped from doing
that he will
won't continue she invited
invited
intervention come on in the
intelligence
community says they're
completely
certain of that the Russians
community
says they're completely certain
that the
Russians disrupted our election
in 2016
hanging out with the Sandy
Ocasio Cortes
too much that they are 24/7
doing it all
the time and so when the
president is
saying well the Ukrainians
actually did
it you know that their
conspiracy theory
and the rest that has to be
stopped
with what the president one of
his
grievances his offenses is that
he was
jeopardizing the integrity of
our
election and we could not elect
him
continue to do that without
holding him
accountable for it it's very
weak it's
really really thin but that's
the new
new narrative yeah that I got
familiar
they have they're gonna have to
make
figure out what they're doing
cuz they
seem to be a little rudderless
a little
will they seem to be rudderless
mm-hmm
and it's
you get the sense that the
Nadler and
the Schiffer arguing with her
constantly
about how to go about this but
she's the
boss technically and so she's
gonna call
the shots now they're gonna
write up
some papers you know how long
they're
gonna let this drag out I'm not
sure
well Pelosi has her own issues
now with
Ukraine and I have to say
Oh am one American news is
they've
decided to start kicking some
ass and
I'm not I still really don't I
mean I
think they're their own their
Christian
faith based I think is their
deal
definitely admits a family a
family
owned but they are going after
well the
issues that we've discussed and
we've
played clips and we've had many
discussions about and they
really see
eye to eye at least with me I
think with
you as well about all of that
was going
on with Ukraine and this gravy
train
that everybody was on and we
have to go
back to 2000 what was it 12 I
don't
remember now 14 when now when
when we
basically co-opted the entire
government
we we determined who was going
to be in
the government with a coup with
snipers
who were killing people killing
the the
Ukrainian cops and security
forces with
snipers John McCain was hanging
out with
Isis people in in Ukraine and
we was
over there handing out
doughnuts it was
a Brennan operation was a total
CIA
operation it was the worst
they've ever
done it's embarrassing how bad
it was
particularly when Victoria
Newlands
phone call was was taped and and
distributed and leaked by the
Russians
yes where she said eff the EU
but this
gravy train is starting to come
off the
rails and one American news is
all over
Paul Pelosi jr. who was one of
Paul
senior and Nancy's sons who of
course
had a cushy little gig with the
Ukrainian oil company the House
Intelligence Committee wrapped
up its
public impeachment hearings on
Capitol Hill but another story
continues
to unfold surrounding the son
of House
Speaker Nancy Pelosi while the
Ukraine
scandal revealed the Biden
family's ties
to the country the less told
stories
surrounding Paul Pelosi jr.
that's still
unraveling on the sidelines
following
revelations that he was a board
member
of the Ukrainian oil company
this coil
an executive for NRG Lab when
America's
Rachel a son is caught up with
journalist Patrick Cowley who's
been
covering this story of the
House Speaker
son take a look I wanted to
follow up
with you because you've been
covering
this Paul Pelosi jr. story we
now know
that two major Democrats Nancy
Pelosi
and Joe Biden have sons with
business
connections in Ukraine and we
would just
went through that public
impeachment
hearing centered around that
Ukraine
phone call between president
szalinski
and president Trump how do you
think the
Paul Pelosi jr. story plays
into this
Democrat led impeachment effort
I think
it's clear that Democrats and
also
establishment Republicans
people of the
political class we're using
Ukraine as
their own personal piggy bank
by putting
their family members on the
boards of
companies to act as surrogates
this is
total quid pro quo foreign aid
I believe
was used in order to grease the
this
foreign country Ukraine in
order to
advantage the private sector
business
deals that were being done by
these
Democrats what specifically do
you think
should happen next when it
comes to Paul
Pelosi jr. and Nancy Pelosi I
believe
that Republicans in Congress
have
subpoena power and they're not
using it
I think Republicans are in
defense
during this entire impeachment
process
when President Trump is out
there saying
look I'm exposing the
corruption I'm
exposing the private sector
business
deals
the cronyism that was going on
in
Ukraine the corruption and in
fact by
law the United States the
support was
supposed to help Ukraine clean
up their
corruption and so this is all a
diversion in order for the
Democrats to
ameliorate themselves of these
private
sector very shady business
deals that
they were doing and I like that
he said
it properly he said Democrats
and
Republicans and that's it's
exactly what
they're accusing Trump of
they have been this is not just
Ukraine
but this was the bungled botched
operation where they just said
oh we're
gonna give you all kinds of
military aid
we're going to give this to you
we have
the power
we're article 1 Nancy and but
you know
can you hook my my son up mmm
and then
John Kerry's kid Biden's kid
Pelosi's
kid are you kidding me they all
had
their hand in the cookie jar
and and I'm
sure that never Trump errs I
just got to
the olden days this has the New
York
Times the LA Times the watch
this has
that the big boy should be all
over the
snore yes thank you this is
you're all
the President's Men this is your
Bernstein and Woodward and
Hogwarts
those guys should be all over
this
you're so right now you're so
right but
I have a little more evidence
of the of
this new new narrative because
they have
this a bit of a problem
the New York Times started this
New York
Times wrote really wrote the
article the
the current narrative Bible
that said
then this is gets funny that
you know
the real ask here as you just
heard
Nancy say the ask was for the
president
of Ukraine to make a public
announcement
that he's going to investigate
hunter
Biden and Joe Biden and for all
of this
all of this horrible corruption
that's
been going down and that's them
that
that's what it was and the New
York
Times wrote something extra
they said
that the plan was to have the
president
of Ukraine announced this on
the CNN
show GPS with Fareed Zakaria
that we all know for Reid Farid
is the
SI Indian Pakistani of origin
I don't know if he's Indian or
Pakistani
I'll look it up yeah and he's a
globalist he is he wants the
Constitution to be repealed
that's right
he feels the Constitution is
stupid
should get rid of it it's no
good and he
got pulled into this and all of
a sudden
they're telling him like yeah
he was
supposed to do it on your show
so Fareed
Zakaria who I think his show I
don't
know when it airs in the US but
I saw
this here on CNN Internacional
and it made me smile the phrase
quid pro
quo is usually translated as
something
for something in the case of
president
Trump's communications with
Ukrainian
president Vladimir's zalenski
it appears
that the quo was supposed to
have been a
declaration of his commitment to
undertake investigations into
the 2016
election as well as Joe and
hunter Biden
the New York Times has reported
that a
public announcement was said to
be made
on my CNN program so I think IO
viewers
my best understanding of what
actually
happened oh now I have to go
and make
this come true with my best
understanding of what happened
okay New
York Times here we go ever
since Olinsky
was elected president in April
my team
and I have been interested in
having him
appear on the show we began the
process
of establishing connections
with the new
administration which was
cordial and
official throughout on
September 13th
I met with szalinski in Kiev on
the
sidelines of a conference I was
participating in and let's stop
right
there normally a normal show
would never
even think about it but he said
I met
him while I was participating
at a
conference
oh this Ukraine John where's
the donors
from Ukraine
there's nothing but good stuff
happening
there everybody's in on this I
looked it
up this is the Viktor Pinchuk
foundation
which held six public lectures
on the
occasion of the 16th annual yes
meeting
that is the
European strategy this is the
and this
guy's pro-eu of course and he
wanted you
know - he wants to get Ukraine
into the
European Union and indeed
public lecture
Western decline China's rise
and a new
world order by Fareed Zakaria
host of
Fareed Zakaria's GPS Friday
September
13th so yes he was getting paid
he's on
the train
who is this Viktor Pinchuk well
would
you believe it if I told you he
was a
big pipeline baron no that
would be too
crazy wasn't it more people
sucking off
the oil teat of Ukraine way to
go guys
way to go he came across a smart
energetic and with a much
sharper feel
for politics than you might
expect from
a neophyte what's a neophyte
beginner he
came across a smart energetic
and with a
much sharper feel for politics
than you
might expect from a neophyte of
course
I'm sure used to the real
politicians
really understand how you're
supposed to
do these things but this
neophyte wasn't
too bad for comedian it was a
brief
conversation but we did discuss
most of
the big issues he faces
Ukraine's
relations with Russia the US
economic
reform and corruption we also
talked
about whether he wanted to do
the
interview in English which he
speaks
well or Ukrainian I left with
the sense
that all was well so Lansky had
perhaps
seemed a bit distracted but I
assumed
this was because of the many
challenges
he faced see this is the color
that he's
adding well you know now that
you know
that you mentioned in New York
Times he
did seem a bit distracted maybe
because
he was thinking oh boy this is
the show
I'm going to announce the Biden
corruption scandal on yes he
did seem
distracted it's a testament to
zalenski
skill but he did not let on in
any way
the immense pressure he was
under maybe
he wasn't under any pressure
but okay
let's put it that way amazing
how the
neophyte was able to fool me
Fareed
Zakaria the man who does
speeches about
the New World Order it was
surprising
that he just as we now know for
months
the Trump White House had been
mounting
an intense campaign
to force him to publicly
announce those
investigations he had tried to
resist
and put them off in various
ways but
ultimately decided he would
have to give
in according to the times
according to
the times noting that he didn't
there
was no ask he didn't ask
Acharya can I talk about this
it never
came up but ok his team
apparently
concluded that since he was
planning an
interview with me anyway that
would be
the form in which he would make
the
announcement though neither he
nor any
of his team ever gave us any
inkling of
that ah huh however after my
meeting
with him in care my team had
begun to
discuss the potential logistics
of the
interview with his team time
and place
but the ground had already
begun to
shift
just imagine zelinsky's dilemma
by the
time I met with him in Kiev
he knew the aide had been
released but
the backstory had not yet
broken into
public view so this makes even
less
sense so the aide had already
been
released he knew the aide had
been
released but somehow he was
under
enormous pressure to still
mention this
I mean I thought he was
supposed to
mention it before the aid was
released
isn't that how it goes isn't
that what
quid pro quo is Ukrainian
officials
right what yes what it is it
had been
released but the back story had
not yet
broken into public view
Ukrainian
officials I spoke to about the
release
of the aid at the time were
delighted
but a little surprised and
unsure as to
what had happened
zalinsky and his team were
probably
still trying to figure out
whether they
should still do the interview a
few days
later on September 18th and
19th the
Washington Post broke the story
wide
open the interview was called
off we are
of course still trying to get it
well there's only one thing I
can say
about that car yeah Korea is an
Indian
of Muslim Indian you have to
say with
such disdain well he's a Muslim
Indian
because well I didn't mean to
say with
disdain and I probably would be
inclined
to think he's a Muslim atheist
because
he went up Yale and then
Harvard it's
pretty hard to be religious and
he was
busted for this is that he got
his PhD
from Harvard in government
studies which
is dubious he's on the board of
the
Council on Foreign Relations oh
yeah
he's no globalist going on but
the thing
that's interesting to me is
that he was
busted for plagiarism yes
several times
I think and taught yeah he's a
plagiarist and then it's like I
know
people that been busted for
plagiarism
and there's different ways of
getting
around it we discussed it on
the show
but six days I'm gonna read
from the
wiki page six days later after
a review
of his research notes and years
of prior
commentary time and CNN
reinstated
Zakaria described the intime
described
the incident as not an isolated
is not
intentional and CNN found
nothing that
what says to me is somebody
said hey you
just guys working there for a
reason to
put him back in there we don't
care what
you think
well they the New York Times
didn't give
him a heads-up he was caught
flat-footed
on this it was actually longer
I cut out
to me irrelevant bits but he
just was
talking around the sub but
basically
he's like he has no he can't
really back
up the claim didn't look
nervous the guy
was funny didn't come up then
he didn't
do it cancel the interview yet
this is
this is the big ass that Nancy
Pelosi
apparently is basing
impeachment the articles of
impeachment
on well they're gonna have I
don't know
how they're gonna pull this off
you're
the real problem the Democrats
have is
that they are corrupt and
stealing money
but besides the fact that there
are
corrupt operations stealing
money
taxpayer money had went out
when you
start seeing with this real
sources our
taxpayer money is where they
get rich in
the office but insofar as the
impeachment the technicalities
of the
impeachment are concerned if
they
actually go through with it or
they
voted in they may not vote it
in I mean
it's possible some Democrats
all have a
clue they will have pushed this
over to
the Senate right during the
period where
many of the Senators that would
be
involved in the trial have to
be on the
road promoting themselves for
president
nominee for the Democrat Party
yeah the
timing could not be worse the
timing is
bad for them it's good for
Hillary yes
it's very good for Hillary
that's just a
matter of waiting it's all
happening
it's all happening
forever anyway as a as a side
when was the word I'm looking
for
something oat not even a side
no but
something because of all of
this this
coup d'etat in 24 it was 2014
actually
the role that Joe Biden played
yeah you
know just the whole the whole
coup that
took place forget about the
corruption
just the coup that took place
thanks to
corruption turned Russia
eastwards in
particular with their pipelines
and just
see six days ago Vladimir Putin
participated in the official
opening of
the power of Siberia natural gas
pipeline to Asia
servicing China
this is one of them one of the
most
intricate pipeline projects
that has
ever been undertaken and
completed it
goes through Russia's East
ursus eastern
Siberia north of Mongolia to
the border
with China 2,200 kilometers
across
Russia's East territories it
can it can
withstand temperatures - 62 -
62 degrees
centigrade it can withstand
earthquakes
and it connects up to I mean
it's
connect there's two underwater
pipelines
under the Amur River and it
connects to
the Chinese gas pipeline going
into
Shanghai I mean this and it
just opened
gas is flowing and you know
they're
gonna start with 38 billion
cubic meters
a year but they believe that
they can
crank that up to double that
amount by
2025 so good work everybody
good work
yeah well you can blame the
Democrats on
this one the because they've
been trying
to get you know rootless and
i'll snot
not just not just democrats
it's it's
Congress it's the whole kit and
caboodle
if if the good guys weren't
involved in
this one they're involved in
something
else that's the real message
that's all
shit the thing that in the 70s
happened
which when Nixon opened China
the idea
was to get China and Russia to
split so
there was they weren't allies
right real
way right so we're supposed to
be doing
all this business with China
and now
they're our buddies and when we
let that
go a little too far and it's
always been
the idea that you don't want
China and
Russia to be at big time allies
in case
something you know some kinetic
war
breaks out and those two guys
are
together it's like pretty much
impossible to to beat well well
now they
are they are literally
connected and it
looks like about ten percent of
China's
natural gas requirements will
be are now
being provided by Russia I'm
sure we
didn't had it was that on the
did
Democracy Now cover that or the
NewsHour
or did anyone bother to look at
the
implications of that let me
think it
don't hurt your brain no of
course not
well it's a bad situation you
know and I
would still blame Pelosi
else on the impeachment stuff I
don't
really have a lot I have me
take a look
at my list oh you just heat
your bill
well while you're looking I do
have it
someone sent me this can you
know
whenever Rudy Guiliani is on TV
and I
tend to switch and I've been
we've been
programmed like ah there's that
bumbling
fool but of course if you think
about it
in terms of how the president
thinks of
him has one of the greatest
crime
fighters of our time which has
some
validity when you hear him
rambling but
to kind of you know after we've
gone
through a year at least of a
little more
detail about what happened in
Ukraine
and then you know you hear what
Giuliani
was actually discussing with
people it's
short but it makes sense I
investigated
all of this starting in
November of 2018
and I finished it by March 28
2019 now
why is that significance the
Ukrainians
brought made substantial
evidence of
Ukrainian collusion with
Hillary Clinton
the DNC George Soros George
Soros's
company they put it in my lap
they came
and gave me testimony this is
under oath
it's signed on the penalties of
perjury
by Victor Shokan he's more than
willing
to come to America and testify
before
Congress and point the finger
at Jill
Biden and his son and basically
support
what the president said it's no
wonder
that the Saturday Night Live
makes
consistent fun of this guy he's
dangerous to a lot of people
yeah yeah
he's he's got that he's got the
he's
like a hanging judge mentality
was in a
district attorney's body or
what's left
of one
he does not in he is uh likes
to go
after people that's what he's
always my
ruthless according to people
who have
been involved with any of his
his
targeting yes
okay Oh we'll see what happens
I think their partner they're
making a
mistake by attacking him well
this is
been non-stop they're trying to
get me
to have the Pelosi clip of the
weird
accusations clip where she's
just
mumbling and bumbling I don't
know what
the hell she's saying half the
time
which was part of the press
conference
only 32 second clip democracy
it's what
is it statements the president
leaves us
no choice but to act because he
is
trying to corrupt once again the
election for his own benefit the
president has engaged in abuse
of power
undermining our national
security and
jeopardizing the integrity of
our
elections his actions are in
defiance of
the vision of our founders and
the oath
of office that he takes to
preserve
protect and defend the
Constitution of
the United States these guys do
this all
the time they slip in little
little gems
and what she slipped in on that
one was
he's once again trying to
interrupt the
election yeah once again if he
did
already once but he didn't it
was the
mall the report pretty much
said he
didn't but they keep hanging
their hat
on the Russian Muller report
nonsense
it and they just keep doing it
they
never let up well they have to
because
somewhere it has to come back
to the the
Ukraine Ukraine's involvement
with
CrowdStrike and the server
which was the
real ask that Trump had didn't
do us a
favor was about that so they
have to
continuously say and that was
just
before I left for the lowlands
it was
that was the talking point was
really
really Ukraine you that's
Russian dish
information man don't you know
that this
information that has been
debunked it's
a conspiracy theory it's Russian
disinformation
so they have to keep that going
and the
only proof they have is by
saying the
entire intelligence community
agrees no
it was really only one it was
really
only the Director of National
Intelligence who agreed the
other 16
agencies actually said well we
didn't
really sign off on it like that
but okay
so they have to keep it going
but I mean
I the timing of it is
flabbergasting to
me
I mean it also it also gives
Trump so
much time a whole year he could
he could
burn them all and then go into
the
election
stupid I just don't understand
only be
panicked moves it's not there's
no rhyme
or reason to how they're going
about
this
no no they shouldn't be yeah
panic maybe
what's going on it's a society
podcasts
are the best thing in the
universe of
course I can say that it's one
of the
inventors because you get
people to say
stuff on podcast that's just
offensive
just fantastic you never hear
it on
mainstream uh our friend the
mooch no
Anthony Scotto Moochie he has a
podcast
did you know he does his own
podcast I
heard about this about the
podcast
yeah it's called man I heard
device
called mooch and the missus
does with
his wife which is very funny
and he
brings in a guest
Dylan Howard he is Australian
entertainment journalist who is
the vice
president and chief content
officer at
American media he oversees Us
Weekly
okay
star in touch life the
lifestyle closer
national examiner radar Online
National
require and UK I mean the globe
he is
the he is the Ratan Meister of
all
Meister's
and they're talking about
epsteen
epsteen murderer Susan I've got
to think
murder yeah yeah yeah and and I
do
believe that he was acting as a
foreign
agent of a foreign government
lazy
people of setting people up I've
actually seen photos inside his
New York
penthouse there is one room
that is
lined with industrial-sized
Xerox
machines next to it is a room
that has a
bunch of cameras screens so
every room
was being taped everything
every person
was being watched and listened
to I
believe he was acting as an
agent of a
foreign government well you
know classic
honey crisis those tapes come
out them
somewhere I was and then right
so yeah
the FBI theoretically should
have them
so should so too should local
authorities in Palm Beach
County where
he had a house in Florida there
is a law
called Sunshine Law which means
that you
can get access to every police
record
I saw those tapes now according
to the
local authorities they don't
exist and
as part of the book that's
coming out in
December called epstein dead
men tell no
tales we speak to a former Palm
Beach
police officer who now has
asylum in
Russia who says that he's in
possession
of all of the Jeffrey Epstein
tapes that
were reported and New Yorker
just the
Palm Beach just Palm Beach well
there's
got to be really salacious
tapes then
you would imagine if the if he
what if
what he says is true and that
these
types exist and that they are
encrypted
and they're there in Russia
this guy
fears for his life that's why
he's been
given asylum Vladimir Putin has
those
tapes the exactly right and so
that
could be you know it could be
some
people on those tapes I mean we
see
pictures of exactly wrong with
them
there is one thing I can assure
you is I
I can I can say for certainty
that mi5
is concerned that Prince Andrew
is
caught on tapes and that those
tapes are
in the hands of the Russians
comprar
Matt explained the bum's rush
yep Prince Andrew's been
after he tried to get himself
out of a
pickle by being on a couple of
these
interview shows and then they
have now
the girl family just shipped
into
Siberia supposedly we should
not hear
from him again ever
well I'm trying to see how I
can word
this I got a note from one of
our
producers and this producers
travels
around the world and this
producer was
at a like a Miss contest of a
different
country so not Miss America
maybe one
that would lead up to universe
and that
Prince Andrew was there
and he immediately tried to get
rid of a
security detail and was saying
to the
girls hey you know you can come
and stay
at Buckingham Palace with me
try to hook
up with and and ain't no
success because
of course juillet Maxwell
wasn't around
to help him out but the gate
but the
Randy Andy thing I mean he's a
sleaze
the guy's a total douche bucket
and so
yeah I think I think that's a
you make a
good point it's like ah we
gotta get
into he got really got to clean
up some
tracks here I just love that
the mooch
does that on his podcast this
could be
total fake news I don't know
I'd like
his vote and I think the tweet
has been
going around some woman who
talked about
just lane Maxwell giving
Clooney a
blowjob I was going to bring
this up
Tiffany Fitz Henry who does
decent
reporting she would she did
randoms
well not random but she did a
search for
George Clooney on WikiLeaks
came up with
what was she saying him she
came up with
interesting results what she
thought was
most interesting and wrote
about and I
put the article in the
shownotes 276
global intelligence files that
mentioned
George Clooney by name 1507
sony emails
the document and mentioned
George
Clooney that's expected of
course but
there's 98 DNC emails 26
Podesta emails
but this global intelligence
which is
Stratfor which is the spooks
for hire
outfit in Austin we got a lot
of them
276 global intelligence files
all canned
I've linked to it in the show
notes it
is quite fun to see and that
when the
one that she's getting all the
attention
for is the one fight so it's
it's not
just a tweet it's it's from the
intelligence files I'll read it
he lame
joke that maybe I should keep
it open I
might find a suitable husband
before I
get any older always the
instigator of a
good joke but unable unable to
take one
herself she didn't like it when
poked
back that it was her that it
was more in
her recent taste of men since
she loved
to brag about her rendezvous
Ronda
who's with various lovers once
she came
back giddy as a schoolgirl with
an
explosion of news with all the
build-up
and excitement you think she
was the
next Crown Princess she was so
excited
but she had actually given
George
Clooney a blowjob in the
bathroom at
some random event she never let
that one
down yeah so you take Clooney
with his
satellite you take Clooney with
all the
things he's doing we've been
saying it
on this show for years George
Clooney is
a spy and there's a sentence
that needs
a bit of qualification what wow
I've
never even heard the original
for that I
thought I was playing the jingle
Wow
do we lose the jingle I don't
know what
do you mean we damn it this is
what I
meant big buildup big fail
way to go curry damn it so yeah
Tiffany fits Henry she's pretty
interesting yeah well this this
course
is another story it's gonna go
into the
dumper because it doesn't have
enough to
do with Trump
exactly Trump you people thank
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he's over
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Oregon yeah 123 dollars and 45
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he's also in local 33 which is
this is I
don't know what this is local 33
donation swap for credit to
another
laugh okay the hold on a second
this is
where I knew I knew this would
fail damn
it hold on
what's the
okay the this was they did a
meet-up and
they did donation swap but did
this see
this is what's so confusing cuz
I think
they did that on the spot and
then they
the way the idea was that I cuz
I asked
about I got an email the
donation swap
is everyone donated money they
threw
that into a bucket and then
they pulled
it out and then so you might
have done
$10 you could get five where
you could
get 50 that was kind of their
Christmas
Secret Santa idea which was
interesting
but I thought it was all going
to come
in as one donation and now I
see it's
already been split up so you
got to be
careful when you do it and it's
it's I
don't care it's just I wanted
people to
get credit properly and it's
not going
to work this way if someone
then sends
in their swap you know what I
mean not
really
yeah okay but all right well
just we'll
just read it as is and will
mean we'll
deal with it we'll deal with it
yeah but
it C it will be fixed with a
memo
somehow sir UPS next and he's
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yet in Seattle Washington
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sorry no one
I don't think that's gonna
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he's from Russia he wants to
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question
because people think that you
have to do
that and it's announced again
or we get
you're in charge of all that
well I I
just I just produce this stuff
what are
we doing with that yes yes
how does it work will be
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there's some valley or
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this box I
straighten
Drayton Valley yeah there it is
I got it
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our friend Michael
yes Drayton Valley Alberta
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Baroness Monica says she really
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but also people who come in
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it can be it can be quite low
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just three
shows it'll be our twelve
hundredth
episode if we need to show
every single
day there'll be what three and
a half
years non-stop so and they
don't even
count the hours but this
experiment has
been working we've been keeping
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together
we never had to drop a show we
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never able to go to a third
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considering you producers and
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that has
been the idea this idea has
been tried
by many and we've looked at Sam
Harris
who has a incredibly successful
podcast
he says I mean it's always
number one
two three somewhere in the
charts
whatever that means
it's deemed a very successful
podcast we
saw him pivot from advertising
based to
donation based you remember we
played it
on the show Sam Harris yep
going to go
to advertising well it didn't
work out
so well for Sam
and he made quite some blanket
statements and I would like to
share
them during this donation
segment so
that you can feel good about
what you've
been doing with your production
okay so
I have an announcement to make
about a
change to the podcast going
forward
okay as most of you know the
show has
relied on audience support for
several
years ever since I realized I
was
allergic to running ads but
it's finally
become clear to me that the
support
model is broken
probably in principle the ad
model is
also broken but for very
different
reasons first let me say that
those of
you who have been supporting
the podcast
our total heroes you are the
reason why
I've been able to grow it into
the
platform it's become so I want
to thank
you for that I consider myself
extraordinary lucky to have you
and I
doubt there's a podcaster out
there for
whom the support model has
worked john
has it been working for you
well it
works for us it works for Gen
Briony
yeah it works for works for the
grime
America guys and the grime
America guys
it works for a number of
podcasters well
if you if you do it correctly
yes better
but it still isn't working the
way that
I'd hoped the percentage of
people who
support the show has never
climbed
beyond the single digits and I
now have
several years of data this is
fantastic
never climbed out of the single
digit
dude you should be lucky if
it's 2% if
it's 2% you're lucky cuz this
guy what
does he think what does he have
experience in the field
obviously he says he's several
years in
the field but he's going to
he's just
going by his own he doesn't do
any
research you should know that
2% is a
huge number
yeah if you can get to it I
guess if
your audience there's only a
thousand
people you know two percent is
what
twenty people yeah are
supporting the
show that's still four thousand
people
you get twenty people small
churches
that have a congregation size
of perhaps
a thousand to 2,000 people do
very well
for themselves well but they're
also
guilted right there in front of
everybody to put money if we
could come
to your house we would though
has never
climbed beyond the single
digits and I
now have several years of data
on this there seems to be some
law of
behavioral economics at work
here I mean
seriously do do five seconds of
googling
so those of you who have
supported the
show our true outliers and
that's
awesome
but the psychological realities
that
we've all grown used to an
Internet that
is almost entirely subsidized
by ads and
the negative effects of the ad
model are
now legion it is undermined our
politics
it is nearly destroyed
journalism it has
given us clickbait and insane
privacy
violations and canceled culture
it is
true to say that almost
everything that
is wrong with our digital lives
and much
that's now wrong with our
society can be
traced to this business model
now I
agree with him there that's
totally all
on board with that and of
course I've
talked about this in several
episodes of
the podcast and the problem
isn't going
away anytime soon and one
insidious
consequence of the ad model
there's
especially relevant here is
that it has
anchored everyone to the
expectation
that most digital content
should be free
or nearly free see I think I
think this
is where he's just wrong you
know it's
this is not everybody thinks
the way you
do it's not true there's legion
people
out there forever and every
content
creator who tries to build a
business
without ads feels this force of
gravity
Jon do you feel the gravity do
you feel
it bringing you down let's pray
for
sitting in this squeaky chair
not dead
because of the anything else
pulling
everything down to zero and I
can now
say from experience that even
real
success down this path
terminates in a
broken business model no it's
not
brokers oh I'm changing the
model here
we go oaken if you if you start
with a
broken sit with a broken ID and
you you
do it half-assed what was he
doing I
don't know but he's he has
explains the
details on how much he actually
brought
in and of course we're not
first no no
didn't do it right but he has a
solution
which is the shittiest ever path
terminates in a broken business
model so
I'm changing the model and
turning the
making sense podcast into a
subscription
service for non subscribers
with this episode all episodes
of the
podcast will be half episodes
so non
subscribers will get the first
part of
the conversation but they won't
get the
second and the first part won't
be
edited in a way that makes it
seem
sufficient it won't be
sufficient the
point is is that if you really
care
about listening to this podcast
you'll
need to subscribe through my
website no
I give him 18 months before
he's running
ads again now a couple of
things about
that idea first of all it
introduces
information that only some
people
receive but it so but always
gets
referred to yes this probable
problematic very problematic
you know so
you're talking about something
and then
and it also causes a problem
especially
with the two of us where do we
talk
about in the second half that a
second
half information I can't even
remember
what day the week it is little
earlier
now that model would work and
we've
never done it but it would work
on the
DHS on plug show for the stock
picks
yeah that's a different kind of
show
yeah and you could do stock
picks that
you had to pay to listen to
right and
that would make sense and you
know we
just never implemented that
idea but it
would make sense there but
doesn't make
sense in an information pure
information
show like this or any other
anybody show
including especially hears and
it
becomes exclusive which really
annoys oh
and you know what the mistake
is so
let's say he I'll be really
I'll be very
generous let's say he has 3%
he said the single digit so I
know I'll
just say it doesn't matter five
5% are your producers so now
you're
going to cut off everybody else
so 95%
of the people who were
listening could
have been potential supporters
people in
the mouth can give you ideas
can give
you feedback he is just saying
fu you
don't count
although E and I didn't clip
this he
said if you can't afford it
send me an email give you a
year for
free like he's a pharmaceutical
company
or something yeah that's very
uh be
insulting yeah well good luck
with that
I know we could talk about this
kind of
thing forever but if we should
baby move
on to some interesting topics
like for
example well I have a knighting
and we
have a meet-up report we got
some
business we do have some
business to do
so anyway my point was thank
you very
much for Steve all right now for
sticking with the model because
it is
working for us we're not driving
Ferraris we don't buy houses in
Beverly
Hills I think he has a nice
house but
you know we're doing a show
with you and
we're happy about it and please
support
us for the next one which will
be just
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no it doesn't happen very often
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have zero birthdays also we
have no
title changes but we do need I
saw a
birthday in there some no no I
got no
birthday in the spreadsheet
or in the email I'm not sure no
because
it would have been yellow on the
spreadsheet which I don't see
and I know
this is not in the spreadsheet
but no
there's nothing in the email
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you off the bat that the Austin
No
Agenda local 512 meetup is
happening
today at 2 o'clock which I don't
the show will barely be over by
then
and this will be a Doc's
backyard in
Sunset Valley yes sunday today
at 2
o'clock that's rather early
then we have
tomorrow what the 10th which is
Tuesday
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Germany at the barley and malt
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Myrtle
Beach Christmas meetup 7
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rusty Jones will be doing that
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Texas meet shoot oh boy this is
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this is where Scott Arthur
shoot yes
they're going shootin at the
Lone Star
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Lockhart
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Scott baronet of the No Agenda
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North
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six
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also the night the 19th my
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Edmunds cast Brewing Company
and the
Valley of the Sun slaves in
Scottsdale
Arizona 5 o'clock on the 20th
still
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January 3rd Amsterdam January
9th Beirut
Lebanon this is a real meet up
Jesse coy
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a lot of
our no agenda end of show mixes
is a
traveling teacher he has been
in Korea
for the past couple of months
and he
still does a mix almost every
every show
he's doing Beirut and he says a
couple
more coming up some of the more
interesting places so we'll
give you
details as they come along no
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meetups calm also the 25th of
January
Moscow Russia Mark Bob is great
yeah
wouldn't you just want to go to
that
just like holy deaf frat would
be so
nice thank you too
it was served a Joe foe who
just got
knighted he was
I think he s he organized the
fur fest
no agenda Meetup there are
pictures
pictures hint video available
the first
annual Midwest furry no agenda
meetup
was a rousing success
top notch media deconstruction
mixed
with drunk sweaty dudes named
Ben dry
humping in sexual animal
costumes it's a
deadly combination birds of a
feather
truly flocked together the
meetup was
small but fierce we had to
normies from
Chicago that's like you and I
John and
for furries from all over the
states
from North Carolina to
California
well I knew what I was getting
so we had
children akin the furry
convention which
was obviously why they were
there from
North Carolina they weren't
there for
the Meetup
there's meetups closer mm-hmm
they were
furry so we have a furry
I guess contingent of no agenda
producers listener furries yes
we
certainly do and that's great
and
they're furry outfits are
beautiful a
furry outfits herb yeah I mean
this is
some high-class stuff looks
really good
and of course this videos of
them dry
humping each other I mean
everybody
knows about the furries and
they all got
a guest saying they would never
they
would never risk any bodily
fluids on
that I can believe actually
high-end
stuff very high-end probably a
great
convention to go to especially
if they
don't mind having their picture
taken I
understand that the bar they
were met at
that he would the bartender
would not
allow any of the furries to
keep their
heads on those I didn't hear
that
oh really oh they have to take
those off
no I think it's no fun anyway a
good
time was had by all photos of
that once
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bottom of the show notes page
you'll
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means a great deal to everyone
who
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what podcasts have this where
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listeners just producers just
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weirder weirder weirder than
meetups
with furries okay I'm all ears
will you
remember that first what was
the first
that the first school shooting
that kind
of triggered a fad of school
shootings
that you remember
well I'd for me I guess
Columbine would
be the most obvious yeah yeah
Columbine
well Columbine was predated
and it to an event that got no
credit
even though it was horrible no
credit as
the best ever the first ever no
credit
as the progenitor of all the
rest of
these shootings oh okay it was
the
original the og
wait a minute we'll shoot
didn't you I
didn't we have done Blaine
which was in
in the in England the UK the
where the
Boomtown Rats made the song I
don't like
Mondays wasn't that one of the
og well
we were talking about North
America oh
I'm sorry
okay and it was in 1989 mm-hmm
it was in
Canada Oh at the L'Ecole
Polytechnique
which is a school it was a
femicide I'm
sorry FM killing girls women
yeah only
I've never heard of this term
but I
could figure it out
a femicide femicide yeah no
let's play
this because most Americans
don't know
about this and even the
Canadians can't
seem this to this day come to
grips with
it even though we're what at
the 30 year
anniversary yeah
if when I call it that of this
event
which took place in 1989 and
not night
Columbine was 1999 it was ten
years
later let's play these clips
this is I
am told the worst shooting
disaster in
Canadian history third worst in
North
American history
December 6th 1989 the day
before midterm
exams at Ecole Polytechnique in
Montreal
just before 5:00 p.m.
meth lab in walked into the
engineering
school with a semi-automatic
rifle
within 20 minutes he murdered
14 women
that's Natalie Provo one of the
survivors of the Polytechnic of
Montreal
massacre he came in the class
shot in
the wall just behind me he yell
at the
chi that they have to leave the
classroom now
all together in the corner of
the room
he told us that we were there
because we
were feminists and I answered
him back
that we were not feminists and
if he
wants to study at Polytechnic
he can
come with us and then he shot
pretty
loud pretty up it's awful and
you see I
saw the eyes of a colleague
died and
then you know that you will die
you'll
didn't you're the next one and
it takes
a second and then you're on the
floor
and it's finished nine people
were shot
in that classroom six died all
women
over the next 15 minutes eight
more
people were killed all of them
women
[Music]
what followed the shooting was
utter
chaos emergency responders
didn't really
know what to do as this was one
of the
first active shooters in Quebec
and one
of the first school shootings
in North
America you know I love when
you do
something like this at the end
of the
show it really makes me want to
come
back to this program to this
incredibly
depressing show the music was
spot-on -
so what was this guy what was
the deal
with this guy the guy hated
well he was
a misogynist cuz he ended up
dead but
you don't know cuz they never
got to
grill him but he goes into the
classes
okay all you guys all the men
Wow
he separated him she made them
leave and
then she started gunning down
two women
yeah I know nothing about this
this is
great I mean it's not great but
it's no
it's not great but it's
something we
should know about the Canadians
they
didn't know how to deal with it
the cops
took a half an hour to get
there and
they're what don't know oh you
mean they
weren't doing a drill nearby
for this
exact scenario they're really
not they
have a lot to learn but the
whole thing
was it is they wouldn't cut the
writers
and the reporters and they
talked about
one in the next clip on the
National
refused to even bring up to sex
the
sexual aspect to it that it was
a
femicide the guy was killing
women only
and he was making sure the guys
were
safe this play part - there
were a
number of miscommunications and
delays
for first responders to
actually get on
the scene police only entered
the
building when they got word the
suspect
had taken his own life nearly
25 minutes
after the first 911 call the
coroner's
report called the disaster plan
poorly
defined and the operation as a
whole
suffered as a result the media
was also
unsure how to handle the
situation what
came out that there were a
dozen things
that
the reporters just all got real
quiet
you don't worry off and see
reporters
get quiet but nobody said much
at 2:00
that the coverage following the
massacre
often excluded the word
feminist unless
to quote the killer
it was portrayed as an
individual
situation a lone gunman spun
out of
control
we were we were sent out to try
to find
out why the murderer would have
done
this what must have happened in
his
childhood or his background
that made
him commit an act of violence
you you
you know do what you're told
but at the
same time there was no
reflection on
would we cover the violence
against
woman angle because that seemed
beside
the point
I was watching the national and
the late
Barbara from was doing a
special on this
and you could see on a national
scale
that she too was trying to not
make it
about violence against women
but but
isn't the crime the brutality
against
this particular group this time
it could
have been another group would
we be
having vigils for every group
if it was
14 men would we be having
vigils isn't
violence the monstrosity here
MacLaren's motive could not
have been
more clear he said it in the
classroom
as well as in his suicide note
but it
would still take decades to
call it what
it was Canada's first mass
femicide
globally as a society imagining
that one
of our boy can kill 14 of our
girls it's
so hard to conceive is so hard
to accept
it's to see a big flaw in our
society so
I don't I don't agree but I
understand
why people in charge wanted to
diminish
the division between men and
women we
have some candles in the troll
room and
they're pointing to a lot of
things is
there a gun control thing that
just came
out about this and this is why
it's in
the news again or is this just a
throwback just because it was on
December 6th okay
two days ago 30 years ago hmm
now
there's no in fact the gun
control is in
play in Canada during this
little
episode and that's one of the
things
that it makes it like you don't
hear
about it because well we got
all these
gun control laws here in Canada
and
meanwhile this happens so what
I'm
reading is that Trudeau unveils
new gun
control platform while measures
from
2015 are still not in force so
is that
how he celebrated on December 6
with a
new gun control this just came
bad this
was an obscure hmm it did not
really
show up as a as a major
anything like
missing I don't remember Trudeau
mentioning it maybe he did but
it's a it
is a good thing you could
leverage you
know if you got a if you're
working on
gun control I'm surprised it
hasn't been
leveraged by the Americans yeah
this
seems to be the OG the og of
incident
yeah in in the Americas Wow in
North
America well that's very
depressing
thanks John that's great I try
to keep
the show Lively I am I have the
antidote
Oh God okay
nutty Biden rambling like we
haven't
seen enough of that all week
1.2 billion
so you go ahead and you stack
spaghetti
sauce at a store in a
supermarket you
control the guy or the woman
who runs
the run it brings out the carts
on a
forklift
what happened ladies and
gentlemen the
next president of the United
States of
America it's actually it's not
much
worse than Trump just Trump has
is you
know it's funnier it's funnier
oh my
goodness I think it's funnier
than Trump
I agree now Biden was in Iowa
and is
where he said that Loomis
but I do have the the thing we
Iowa
farmer versus Biden now do we
really
need to do this is there
anything new in
this well you've seen it then
yeah oh
yeah it's everywhere that he's
calling
the guy hey sit down fats and
it's not
true and shut up they were
playing that
on Democracy Now so I do have
the third
clip from that little ditty
which I call the bad Segway oh
I want
you to listen to this she's
going from
the Biden story that you're just
ridiculed
we're Biden in this guy get
into a beef
she goes from that and cuts
into another
story normally she does it to
about a
one second about a three beat
pause
between her stories but once in
awhile
she just reads someone's story
to the
other making it sound like the
same
story yeah and this is an
example and
that was Vice President Joe
Biden
lashing out at the Town Hall in
Iowa
Thursday the Pentagon is
considering
sending thousands more troops
to the
Middle East to counter The Wall
Street
Journal reports up to 14,000
could be
stopped I got to hear that
again that
was great the Pentagon is
considering
sending thousands wait I go
back and
that was former Vice President
Joe Biden
lashing out at the Town Hall in
Iowa
Thursday the Pentagon is
considering
sending thousands more troops
to Iowa
the Middle East County that was
good
that was good I liked it I did
note that
she uses the term which is what
I
thought was reserved for Trump
hmm but
she is the democracy now show
is unboard
with Elizabeth Warren I think
oh she
uses the term reserved for Trump
we're byte and now lashes
lashes out
yeah hmm well it's Amy who
knows we
don't have an end of show I so
I just
realized
oh this is a problem well
you've got
classics I think stopped a
hammering
always works let's listen to it
you want
me to lighten it up I got my
last clip
okay thanks buddy
second part is optional so
Katie Hopkins
is the kind of the right wing
commentator used to be on LBC
and she's
she's floating around a big
drum i sear
on fox sometimes she comes on
fox once
in a while she just she lamb
bass people
she's actually a good radio
personality
because she's just over the top
nuts
okay so she's giving a speech
to some
conservative group and she and
I was
look watched her do this she
has it she
has the thing written now she's
writing
this down but she apparently
hired some
joke writers Oh God okay you
know she
does a credible job and I think
anyone
who does public speaking should
find
some joke writers and and maybe
do your
material like this my name is
Katie
Hopkins I am a straight white
Christian
conservative married mother of
three
small children under 15 and I
applied
hit me all of those things
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people who know me know that
most of my
Muslim friends have 15 children
under
the age of 3 I'm kidding I'm
kidding I
don't have Muslim friends I had
two
husbands so far I like to call
lovey
mark my current husband to keep
him on
his toes I guess I'm a bit like
Ilhan
Omar except I've never married
my
brother
I did try proposing to Donald
Jr earlier
as well
I think I could be so much
better for
him than Kimberly
after all I've never dated a
Democrat
unlike some
well she goes on wait no I
didn't get
that one kimberly guilfoyle was
married
to gavin newsom
oh ok of course well these are
pretty
good she delivers it's not a
race it's
good it's not a she's a radio
almost
vodcast
yeah she's probably a podcaster
now but
you know it's well actually
actually I
think didn't she did she lose
some
lawsuit
I was reading about this yeah
he was a
slander loss interest slander
lawsuit
for 500 million pounds and she
had to
sell her house oh well the
podcast joke
is not that funny nice slam
here on
somebody else that kind of like
wow this
is interesting I guess there's a
contingent of people in the UK
that hate
a certain somebody tomorrow of
my first
marriage ladies and gentlemen
is do not
marry a man that looks like
match slap
too much hair that much hair is
not
natural he looks like something
that
came out of the forest and I'm
glad to
see that so many ladies here
have gone
for a much more aerodynamic
husband in
the head Department not
gesturing at you
sir but I'm definitely
gesturing at you
it's good to laugh isn't it I
mean
really I've come to realize
that we
lived in such utter ly mad
times that
sometimes our best defense is
truly just
laughter and it's one of the
ways I
think the Republicans are going
to win
this war is through our sense
of humor
because Democrats are not
blessed in
this department
look at Megan Markel hmm thank
you very
much for that gift America you
really
export really the best take
half of
Mexico and what do we get
mega Markel yeah there's not a
lot of
love for Megan Marc in in the
UK either
everyone's still really
confused about
her No
whatever well thanks that was
okay
that's the best I can do well
no yeah no
that was great thanks all right
I'll be
sure to check those listening
stats see
who chopped out after that and
if they
did they're fools because we
have a
fantastic end of show mix
lineup with
Jessie coy Nelson I talked
about earlier
lowlands Jasper secret agent
Paul
returns with a professional new
song
that'll be up first we have Tom
Starkweather and of course as
promised
the nothing like a dame song so
we're
loaded for bear and I will be
flying
back tomorrow so I'll be back
for the
Thursday show looking forward
to that as
we get closer to episode 1200
remember
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the court for the impeachment
on Tom
therefore gone crazy morning
all day and
Morial night falling over
themselves to
get Arthur Xperia he had his
detractors
he had his fans demand to be
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Donald J Trump it's a fine or
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10 times 50 times as opposed to
one
fantasy
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that don't
have a lot money and so higher
taxes do
shouldn't have a bigger impact
on their
behavior and how they deal with
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when it comes to worse
Jeffrey Epstein did not kill
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textures from
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right way that they should be
heard I
mean oh boy oh boy oh boy did
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team me no more you're tuned to
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Gitmo nation World Service up
next a
show tune from Rogers and stop
the
Hammerstein
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we've got newsletters from John
body but
for other shows we can tickles
we've got
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bond with
the vagina
gentlemen I was born with a
penis
irritable dude you're not even
transitioning no but I'm
allowed to
identify as a diamond it's the
law
yeah that's Canadian law you're
an
Aussie but it's the same Queenie
irritable stop trolling us we
have a
song to sing hit it guys
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nation will
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nothing else is gotta say
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there is absolutely nothing
like when
Adam prognosticate cyou day oh
my
fucking god
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why Thank You Cindy
I agree with myself all 33
inches thanks
Thank You Cindy thanks get the
fuck out
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that was horrible okay uh I
hope that
works for you guys if you need
anything
else just let me know bye Borg