Cover for No Agenda Show 1244: Gain of Function
May 21st, 2020 • 3h 36m

1244: Gain of Function

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where the beaches are open atom curry is
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no agenda from northern Silicon Valley
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we're hearing that the CDC now says
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coronavirus does not spread easily on
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surfaces what I'm John see Devorah oh
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[Music]
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man please who listens to that anymore
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who listens to the CDC we've given up
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they just given up now we've given I was
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like they're fully crap we had some
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friends over last night two women
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actually just for for you know after
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dinner drink six o'clock and man one of
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them and I think both of them had been
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here before a couple weeks ago one of
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them is a teacher and she had not been
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out of the house since the last time she
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saw us and was so freaked out by
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everything that she had learned and
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listened to
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she wouldn't cheat social distance
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inside our house well almost
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it's it's and it was kind of odd you
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know it's like oh man I feel I feel bad
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that you feel that way of course we
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respected that but it was just Tam and
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it's because we had been out that's why
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yeah because we've been out boozing
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around and having dinners and stuff and
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it was immediate emp'd yeah well yes
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we're essential personnel obviously we
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we all know that but it was Jim that was
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just freaky yeah you know and we we went
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out to we had anniversary on Tuesday so
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we went to fix which is here in Austin
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which is open again now they're also at
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their 25% limitation that they put
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dummies in the charity no but I did want
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to take them all
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to tell everybody in order to make
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everyone comfortable during this time of
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transition we're letting all our
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producers know that in compliance with
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social distancing guidelines we have
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filled some audience slots with
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mannequins and sex dolls so if you so
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just so you know we want you we want the
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show to look full like we've got
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everybody here so we so we go too thick
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that's where we had our first date too
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which is nice and we've kind of gone
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back there once at least once a year for
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some kind of celebration for the fix for
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the fix yeah f IX e they had no you know
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temperature readings no signing any
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waivers just come on in no mass
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necessary outside or inside personnel
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was wearing masks and gloves and there
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was no tables were spaced out the food
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incredible as always but we had a chat
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with them now one of the one of the
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girls who works there server
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I guess she's more like maitre d kind of
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although you know there's so little
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personnel everyone's doing different
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things and you know we've been there
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before and at least she knows the the
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bartender so we're all kind of like you
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know just chatting a bit and we're
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friendly and she kind of opens up to us
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says you know the big problem is that
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ever since the shutdown every single AAA
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meeting has been cancelled in most of
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these meetings you know took place in
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churches or community centers or schools
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completely shut down and people are in
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by the way nice to know that alcohol
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sales and liquor stores are open it's
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really it's you know the unintended
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consequences are those memes going
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around you know the beaches are closed
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but the pot shops are open in California
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right but I'm just you know you don't
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really think about it but people who
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these meetings are crucial many people
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need them every day every day and then
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so that you know they're doing the legal
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and it has to be kind of in person it's
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not a thing that really works very well
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over zoom so they're doing illegal
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meetings behind dumpsters and it's
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insane know no one feels like it's like
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the days
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for the abortion it's illegal not
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dissimilar but you know that's what you
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get it's like no one really thought
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about this shit nobody yeah
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however before we get into all that I
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think we need to talk about Rogen oh yes
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I think that's probably a good idea
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yeah so I have a few notes but maybe you
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just listen to his little announcement
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which came over the transom I guess the
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day before yesterday hello everybody I
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have an announcement the podcast is
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moving to Spotify I signed a multi-year
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licensing agreement with Spotify that
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will start on September 1st starting on
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September 1st the entire JRE library
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will be available on Spotify as well as
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all the other platforms then somewhere
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around the end of the year it will
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become exclusive to Spotify including
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the video version of the podcast it will
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be the exact same show I am NOT going to
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be an employee of Spotify we're gonna be
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working on the same crew doing the exact
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same show the only difference will be it
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will now be available on the largest
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audio platform in the world nothing else
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will change it will be free it'll be
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free to you you just have to go to
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Spotify to get it we're very excited to
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begin this new chapter of the JRE and I
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hope you're there when we cross over
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Thanks a couple of things about that
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announcement I would never announce
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anything and then end it with crossing
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over that is such a death connotation to
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it I don't think that was I think it was
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subliminal and not intended but chef
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conscious subconscious yeah but crossing
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over to crossing always sounds weird
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yeah I think it was it was a
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subconscious truth truth wants to come
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out we cross over to the dark side to
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the evil side also the largest there's
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no real I may cry yes it's just a bad
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phrase let me go on sorry the largest
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audio platform is an interesting content
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it's a good one yeah it is I mean
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there's truly the largest platter bigger
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than Apple Spotify
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yeah I don't know they it could it might
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be I have no idea no idea but bigger
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than YouTube well let's let's go through
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this for a second cuz I think some
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people are there's a lot of expected
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response a lot of a feeling of betrayal
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I don't know how rampant that is that
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but okay this is what I see of course
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people are you know jumping all over it
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but I just want to give a little
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perspective on this because I think
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people are jumping to a lot of
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conclusions now and although I have not
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discussed this specifically with Joe we
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talked you know we text a lot we have
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regular contact and this is this is
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almost expected for him at this point I
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would say Joe really cares more about
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the video about the the video podcast
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and I think it's important for the show
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that he does in general on YouTube that
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you see the person well he's had
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incredible difficulty with this you know
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having to self-censor having to cut
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pieces out he has you know YouTube
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censors anything that is that diverts
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from the Cova Dean coronavirus official
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official message he hasn't been able to
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really have people on that he wanted to
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interview for fear of being well
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demonetised happens I think fairly
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regularly with his videos but really for
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fear of being kicked off and I and I
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think YouTube although his the majority
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of his money probably comes from the
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podcast advertising I think that's
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really what is most important to him and
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I think it's most important to Spotify
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they're really trying to diversify into
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two things one they want and they
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definitely want to do video and they
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need to have content that doesn't cost
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them per stream that's the problem with
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their business model is every time that
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you listen to a song it costs them
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whether they've gotten money from you
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through a subscription or an ad or not
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so they need this and I think video by
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dimension it doesn't cost them much but
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even that little bitty billion things up
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is billions billions of dollars now a
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lot adds up but it's still um you know
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it's
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now artists aren't showing a lot of it's
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not like the music business guys the
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people that musicians are getting rich
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off a Spotify Spotify is losing money
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their public company you can see how
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much they're losing is that they know
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they're losing money and just like
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Netflix these are losing money that's
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okay that's the business plan I think
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Joe was shaken up by what happened to
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Alex Jones Alex Jones was in a
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coordinated effort he was moved from
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Apple podcasts from all the podcast apps
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they the podcast attic there's a podcast
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app which you just used to subscribe to
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podcast was removed from the Google Play
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Store because they had the audacity to
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list podcast that had health information
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quote-unquote that is not the approved
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sanctioned message so that's that's all
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I think that that was those were Joe's
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main concerns and it's what what a safe
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much more safer way to do a licensing
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deal which is there's a lot of things in
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there I think it's not just like oh here
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you go I'm yours exclusively no it's a
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licensing deal so it may be that not all
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episodes go out there's all kinds of
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things that can change along the way but
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then I think me from the monetary side
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the podcast where that and I know that
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this is where most of the money came in
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from you know I told him myself multiple
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times I'm worried you have eight minutes
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of ads leading into the show everybody
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knows we skip past it
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hello come on man and so you must be
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getting heat from people who either want
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to be first or last or whatever it is so
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that that was not sustainable so we have
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the content issues I'm not so sure about
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it never being available on RSS and
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that's kind of where it gets funky as
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people don't consider something a
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podcast unless it has an RSS feed and I
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agree with that but it doesn't make any
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difference to the people who want to
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want to watch Joe Rogan the downside
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he'll have is twofold
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one he will no longer have the algo of
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YouTube and I think that's a huge
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underestimation and that's probably why
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they're trying to do a transition period
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to get people used to the fact that you
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can watch the show over here because if
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you subscribe to the Joe Rogan YouTube
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channel when there's something new you
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know about it
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and he's not doing newsletters or any
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other way of notifying people so I think
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that's gonna take a lot of work to
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compensate for that and and obviously
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the the listenership and viewership will
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have to go down also if you're not going
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to use an RSS feed is it for sale
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because I'd be very interested in
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purchasing that and who owns the domain
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name associated with it and do you have
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any idea how much convenience is going
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to be lost and if you've ever lost an
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RSS feed then you kind of know how hard
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it is to build that back up so there
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will be some relevance issues that I
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think Joe will have to deal with just in
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in a way like Howard Stern where the
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medium is kind of the message you know
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so like with Howard Stern the medium was
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FM radio morning radio he was breaking
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all the rules saying nasty things the
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FCC was was the man and then he went to
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Sirius and all of a sudden he could say
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use profanity and there was no enemy and
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a little bit of that pirate mentality is
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there with Joe Rogan and and the Joe
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Rogan experiences we're just crazy we're
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hanging out we're doing nutty stuff and
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it turns out it's you know it's working
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pretty well but then this feels like
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some kind of cop-out sellout and it may
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very well be you know to that word that
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well it is you got a hundred million
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dollars that's not the word on Wall
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Street but that's the word the same
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podcast business journal it may be I'd
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say anywhere between fifty fifty million
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in that over a multi-year period sure
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why not
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yeah it wouldn't be you wouldn't be
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cashed here's here's on a billion
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dollars oh no no absolutely not
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now so this is great for Netflix I think
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it it protects all of Joe's upside and
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it gives them almost no downside other
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than
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Vin's but i think he this man wants to
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stand up he's not that he's not a
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podcaster he likes doing stand-up and
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that's what he wants to do when the show
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facilitates his life so I'd like Andy
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still use the RSS feed well I think he
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can and here's how I would view it again
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Spotify Sneed's are not to pull away an
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RSS feed Spotify his needs are to have
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as we discuss people who have this you
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know not at this kind of free content
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for them so the end the video part
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they're going to sell ads on anyone who
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was listening or I presume watching
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let's just leave it with listening who
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isn't a subscriber you know isn't a
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paying member so you might as well have
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the same ads run for the people who
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still subscribe to the RSS feed you
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could leave that in place and it would
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probably do better for Spotify then
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maniacally trying to cut that off but it
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does it does change something it it
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changes it changes the view for people
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and what they think is important and I
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just wanted there's no real numbers on
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any on anything so you know he says 198
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million downloads a month could be I
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don't know I don't know if that's people
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who listen as well but I did I did take
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a look at what what being on the Joe
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Rogan show and coronavirus has done to
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no agenda if you're interested sure so I
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don't have I don't have any absolute
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numbers but with with Apple you can go
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into podcast connect and you can see
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trends of people who are using the
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iPhone at least iPhone 11 and the Apple
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podcast app so I'm just gonna so at on
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March 4th we were at our 100% whatever
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just a baseline of a hundred percent
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after I want on Rogan by March eighth
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our baseline was 200 where we went from
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the baseline it was 200 percent a week
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later now this is when the lockdown
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started to happen so you've got to think
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it might be a combination but for sure
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Rogan we went from two hundred percent
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to five hundred percent to two thousand
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percent of our original baseline and
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we've now leveled off at 1,800 percent
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just to give you an idea of what kind of
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numbers Rogan's
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pushing go back on the show yeah hell
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yeah it's nice to be got about eight
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listeners for sure who have actually
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identified as listeners well do or talk
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about donors
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yeah don't or some type quite a few
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listeners but yeah number but a lot of
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them donated early to a lot of normal
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listening pattern if somebody listened
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to the show for two years mm-hmm and
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then coming with maybe a big donation or
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what it you know anything from two
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hundred thousand dollars and then after
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years of listening mm-hmm these guys are
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a little faster on the draw
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well now if this would happen to us
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here's here's how I would do it let's
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just presume it's a hundred million and
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of course we have a very you know we you
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and I we can't work for emo for anybody
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that's that's impossible
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there's no way plenty of people them but
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I mean not we can only have two we could
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no longer work for we couldn't work for
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a Spotify when I can have a meeting with
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Spotify about what we're doing no that's
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not gonna let but let's say we could
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just have a licensing deal and you know
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we had this value for value I would say
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100 million everyone who's donated we're
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going to send them a thousand dollars
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you and I still out make out like
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bandits maybe your money back with a
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little bit of interest then we get and
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then we keep going anyway yeah so I
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think it's I think it's great for Joe I
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think it's good for his show it'll it'll
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last because that was show it was going
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down
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there's no way it could have gone
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anywhere but into the censorship been on
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YouTube which always comes with all
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kinds of crap controversy and then you
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know before you know it someone says
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something then it's off the podcast app
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so I think that's a yes man has a family
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and a career to protect is it great for
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podcasting I don't know I don't think
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has anything to do with it anymore Joe
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Rogan experience is a whole different
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phenomenal I think the future podcast is
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always what you claim which is
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independent the tribe tribal network you
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know something we don't
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yeah you're not dependent on a third
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party exactly and and it's good to know
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just like in jail it's good to know that
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you can escape it's good to know that
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once in a while one of us
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that's how make some real money then can
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live like a king
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yeah besides the gimlet people now that
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said where is gimlet do you hear that
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much from them anymore
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they were bought by Spotify I know so
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the relevance it's just like Stern it
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kind of fades away so that I think is
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sad but what did they have in today I'm
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sure it's not really genome in Mike's
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know they had two shows and and it's a
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mystery show what is a true-crime it's
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really that's it's all show oriented
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don't say mostly what Spotify does
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meanwhile the mainstream media is so
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freaked out in general by podcasting and
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the and what's at what's really
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happening with tribal media is apparent
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from this public service announcement
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and I'm sure they meant it kind of as
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funny but it went on too long for it to
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be just funny from the ABC Australian
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Broadcasting Corporation paid for by the
18:38
Year by the citizens of Australia and
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they aired this there is some foul
18:43
language in here and f-bomb coming up
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but if it was good enough for ABC in
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Australia it should be good enough for
18:48
the podcast these are unprecedented
18:50
times we know things are hard right now
18:53
you're stuck inside with nothing to do
18:55
he might be going out of your mind just
18:57
wanting to do something anything but now
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more than ever more than ever more than
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ever it's time to think about how your
19:06
choices affect others so please please
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please don't start a podcast just don't
19:14
do it don't do it you might feel like
19:16
the productive use of your time right
19:18
now you've probably already got a USB
19:20
mic and a spare room ready to go and you
19:23
make day it's got some interesting
19:24
opinions but we're here to tell you he
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doesn't it really doesn't please a
19:29
fuckwit when I need your true-crime
19:32
exclusive
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which is just you reading Wikipedia
19:35
articles to your housemate we don't need
19:37
your minute-by-minute breakdown of every
19:40
episode of Parks and Rec what are you
19:41
gonna do sand everyone in your contact
19:43
list emerged ship newsletter and force
19:45
them to mark you as spam instead of
19:47
bland subscribing because they're scared
19:48
to hurt your feelings
19:51
look it's pretty straightforward just go
19:54
inside a podcast makes impossible
19:55
scratch like everyone else and just shut
19:58
up the greatest gift you can give your
20:00
fellow human beings right now right now
20:02
right now is to shut the fuck off shut
20:05
the fuck do it don't start a podcast now
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you can say that's just out of fun right
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there was a little too much hostility in
20:19
there for my taste it was too long for
20:25
the punchline yeah
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and they you know they always slightly
20:31
over produced yeah you don't go to the
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process of making that with all these
20:37
different people coming on board and
20:38
helping unless it's some kind of
20:40
internal thing there's something there
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yeah maybe we had to do it a couple of
20:47
the people that actually work at
20:48
Australian Broadcasting that we're
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thinking about doing a podcast or or
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brought it up in meetings write your
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podcast about a podcast yes exactly
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I don't know so yeah I'm not too worried
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in all this industry industry talk
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because you know the podcasting space is
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an industry of which you and I are never
21:14
invited to the party which is to me
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always a good sign you know good sign
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for us it's a good sign for yes yeah
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we're never invited all these events
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they have all these things that Jen
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Brian he goes to most of them yeah I say
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I wish I don't know she still doesn't
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mean obviously nobody's going to
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anything during this break to shut down
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but it's like every guy talked to her
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once and watch this working did you
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gonna go to the podcast him the podcast
21:44
fast whatever is going
21:48
the podcast hoedown Casta Palooza oh no
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they don't bite us podcast fast no we're
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we're persona non grata yes yeah but
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also because we figured it out that this
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is the way you don't need you don't need
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to have Joe read Rogen audience to
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sustain from your community it's exactly
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like a small church thing it is in a way
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yes Church
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you see these churches as mega churches
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they bring in the big dough that'd be
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Joe Rogan it's big mega church bringing
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in the dough but Joe Rogan there's
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little community churches they do just
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fine I'm Joe Rogan was not in the church
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he was in a stadium like Bruce
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Springsteen taking money no it's not
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this have you ever seen some of these
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mega churches have you seen Joel Osteen
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no but that is a stadium it's literally
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he bought the whole Houston basketball
22:45
team's stadium he's not value for value
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so it's not the same as a church Joel
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Osteen is value for value yes but Joe
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Rogan is Rogen's yeah you're right thank
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you
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well I mean I can see churches going
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that way if they were allowed to bylaw
23:01
knew if there was legal I bet you the
23:04
churches would have the same riders wait
23:06
a minute you mean to take to take why
23:08
isn't it legal why can't a church have
23:12
advertised I think and let's just call
23:15
what it just break for ads what's wrong
23:18
with I don't see a problem with that hey
23:21
listen y'all
23:22
you haven't been even putting enough in
23:24
the collection dish so here's a word
23:26
from coca-cola why not no I think I
23:31
think there's some legal issue too
23:33
there's some lawyer listening to this
23:35
right now that knows the answer to this
23:37
- my my pause well why am i pausing
23:40
because I I suspect there's something
23:43
illegal about it
23:44
hmmm I think a religious organization
23:46
can't just be an advertising front
23:50
Dicers was advertising for God and we
23:54
also have the drug companies
23:55
underwriting us you know advertisers for
23:58
this sermon is brought to you by squib
24:00
okay now you've taken me there now we
24:02
need to go into this to clip
24:05
extravaganza because yes it is about the
24:08
advertisers and something fantastic
24:12
happened
24:13
I saw it happen live and this is where
24:16
the president offhandedly admits that
24:19
he's been taking hydroxychloroquine for
24:22
about a week
24:23
ena has got everybody freaked out in a
24:25
surprise in a surprise like offhand that
24:29
announcement here is a clip of it I
24:31
think for whatever it's worth I take it
24:33
I was my I would have told you that
24:36
three four days ago but we never had a
24:37
chance because you never asked me the
24:39
questions you're asking these shitty got
24:41
your questions the White House do the
24:42
White House doctor recommend that you
24:44
take that is that why you're telling
24:45
White House doctor I didn't recommend no
24:47
I asked him what do you think you said
24:48
well if you'd like it and said yeah I'd
24:50
like it I'd like to take it a lot of
24:51
people have taken a lot of frontline
24:53
workers that take in hydroxychloroquine
24:55
a lot of front door I don't take it
24:57
because hey people said oh maybe he owns
25:00
the company no I don't know the company
25:02
you know what I want the people of this
25:04
nation to feel good I don't want them
25:07
being sick I was just waiting to see
25:09
your eyes light up what I said this but
25:11
you know what I announced this but yeah
25:13
I've taken it for about a week and a
25:14
half now and I'm still here I'm still
25:17
can you explain through though you what
25:19
is the evidence that it has a
25:20
preventative here we go you ready here's
25:24
my evidence I get a lot of positive
25:25
calls about it they say hey you know the
25:29
expression I've used John what do you
25:31
have to lose okay what do you have to
25:33
lose for about a week at me for about a
25:37
week and a half every day at some point
25:39
every day I take a pill every day at
25:43
some point they'll stop what I'd like to
25:45
do is I'd like to have the cure and or
25:47
the vaccine and that'll happen I think
25:49
very soon so what happened at this
25:51
moment was fantastic and just a reminder
25:53
of the background that this is a widely
25:57
available drug it's incredibly a cheap
26:00
to get it is not the planned it is not
26:03
the plan the plan was while we have a
26:06
vaccine in the making moderna has been
26:08
blessed to make that we
26:10
have REM disappear and REM disappear
26:13
they've even gone so far as to kind of
26:15
gin up some interim numbers the right to
26:19
make it look a little better than the
26:21
first trial was which the market saw
26:23
because the market tanked the stock and
26:25
then all no but we have something
26:27
positive went back up and that's a $1400
26:30
per serving so that's really and this is
26:32
the pharmaceutical industry you've
26:34
learned from us China and the
26:37
pharmaceutical industry own the media
26:39
and here is proof and is my favorite to
26:42
show Fox News who now have a new name
26:45
called Fox pharma and Neil Cavuto was on
26:48
when this briefing took place they
26:51
interrupted right after the president
26:52
was done and this is what he went on for
26:55
seven minutes and I took two now that
26:58
was stunning the president knighted
27:00
States just to acknowledge that he is
27:03
taking hydroxychloroquine a drug that
27:06
meant really to treat malaria and lupus
27:09
the president has insisted that has
27:10
enormous benefits for patients so either
27:14
trying to prevent will already have a
27:17
Kovan 19 the fact of the matter is
27:19
though when the president said what have
27:22
you got to lose in the number of studies
27:25
those certainly vulnerable the
27:28
population have one thing to lose their
27:31
lives a VA study showed that among a
27:33
population of veterans in a hospital
27:37
receiving this treatment those with
27:39
vulnerable conditions respiratory
27:41
conditions heart ailments they died
27:43
there are also a number of other studies
27:45
that including the Journal of the
27:47
American Medical Association which
27:49
examines some 1438 individuals in the
27:53
New York area across 25 hospitals from
27:56
the middle of March to the end of March
27:58
the study was a real chance he had this
28:04
information at the ready oh it rolled
28:08
out John it rolled out like they opened
28:10
up the manila envelope that said warning
28:12
in case something bad happens this was
28:15
he was he stumbling through the prompter
28:17
this was believes like you know I didn't
28:20
I know about him you have no idea it's
28:22
good
28:23
realize that he was that it was like a
28:25
prepared script and and it happened when
28:29
the president said it now either then
28:32
now you know I worked in these in this
28:34
business that doesn't happen unless
28:37
there's something already ready to go
28:38
it's got to be done
28:40
the only time I've had that is working
28:43
for the in in the Netherlands there was
28:45
a suitcase and if anything happened to
28:48
the Queen or the royal family the
28:49
suitcase was to be opened and the
28:51
suitcase contained the records and the
28:53
playlist and the exact text of what to
28:55
say and it reminds me of this he's
28:58
flipping out but he'll take it to all
29:00
the way to the end remember fox pharma
29:03
owned owned by the pharmaceutical
29:06
industry patient which examines some
29:09
1438 individuals in the new york area
29:12
across 25 hospitals from the middle of
29:15
march to the end of march the study was
29:19
a real chance to look at the the
29:22
benefits that the president's system
29:24
were our doctor chloroquine they
29:25
concluded that among peasant residents
29:28
hospital say what it was without the
29:32
zinc no no the VA study is not
29:34
peer-reviewed this is all bull crap
29:38
residents hospitalized in metropolitan
29:41
New York with Kovac 19 the treatment or
29:44
both compared with neither treatment no
29:46
statistical differences a second study
29:49
done by adjusted Galeras and colleagues
29:51
at the New York Presbyterian Hospital
29:53
Columbia University orbing Medical
29:55
Center in northern Manhattan from March
29:57
7 to a prolonged
30:00
there were no visible differences that
30:03
the risk of intubation or death was not
30:04
significantly higher or lower among
30:06
patients who received hydroxychloroquine
30:09
versus those who did not the VA study to
30:13
which the president alluded wasn't a
30:15
loaded political one it was a test on
30:18
patients there and those who took now
30:20
remember this is written by the
30:22
pharmaceutical industry for Neil Cavuto
30:25
here at Fox Pharma and let's take it
30:28
home that's really scary in a vulnerable
30:30
population including those with
30:32
respiratory other conditions they died I
30:35
want to stress again they died if you
30:38
are in a risky population here and you
30:41
are taking this as a preventive
30:43
treatment to ward off the virus or in a
30:46
worst case scenario you are dealing with
30:48
the virus and you are in this vulnerable
30:50
population it will kill you I cannot
30:53
stress enough this will kill you ladies
30:57
and gentlemen chairman of the board of
30:59
Fox Pharma there is Neil Cavuto and of
31:04
course we have it I so this will kill
31:07
you later that's not bad man can you
31:14
believe that though and they had that
31:16
ready to go
31:17
yeah well this I that which brings me I
31:20
have two series of clips I want to play
31:22
one you I would like to go to this one I
31:25
first of all I have a long presentation
31:27
on the origins of kovat and but I do
31:31
have I am taking the beat of Kayle Kayle
31:37
the Avenger I do want to come back to
31:39
one more clip when you take us to Caylee
31:41
because I night why well Caylee address
31:43
this issue that's right I know I know
31:45
that's why I just want to come back okay
31:47
well then we'll go to just one Cathy
31:49
clip I got two the two others left but
31:51
this is a two-parter and she she goes
31:54
off the deep end on this so this is a
31:55
long clip followed by a short following
31:58
it's worth it but this is Caylee Caylee
32:00
Caylee mackaninee the new press
32:03
secretary mean their house this means
32:06
their ninja ass and taking names I'm
32:12
glad she's your beat that's for sure
32:14
so here she comes and she's gonna
32:17
address this eight days CQ event this
32:20
event it was an event when the Trump
32:22
made the announcement and even Scott
32:24
Adams made a special presentation on his
32:26
periscope at night
32:28
what was his take without he thought it
32:31
was genius he brought him back to the
32:34
Trump camp when he says he's never seen
32:36
a he says he just thought it was genius
32:37
because he knew it would get everyone
32:39
all bent out of shape and he was just
32:41
laughing about it yeah and because he
32:44
just thought it was another Trump ploy
32:46
yeah but here's Caylee gone
32:48
about it here we go moments ago a
32:50
statement from the American Nurses
32:52
Association which says quote the
32:55
American Nurses Association has not
32:56
received reports from nurses or other
32:58
frontline health care workers utilizing
33:01
hydroxychloroquine as a preventive
33:03
treatment for kovat 19:00 why does the
33:06
president continue to say that many or
33:08
thousands of frontline workers are using
33:10
it as a prophylactic well there is them
33:12
at Henry Ford Hospital is doing a study
33:14
on this now or 3,000 frontline workers
33:16
will be taking hydroxychloroquine to
33:20
look at X use as a prophylaxis I believe
33:23
there's a few hundred or a hundred 90
33:26
workers and Tampa General Hospital's so
33:29
this is being used by by some and one
33:31
thing I want to note with regard to
33:33
hydroxychloroquine because I think it's
33:35
very important that were as accurate as
33:37
we can be with our reporting on this
33:39
hydroxychloroquine has been a drug that
33:41
has been in use for 65 years for lupus
33:45
arthritis and malaria it has a very good
33:47
safety profile but it as with any drug
33:50
and as with any prescription it should
33:52
be given by a doctor to a patient in
33:55
that context so no one should be taking
33:57
this without a prescription from their
33:58
doctor but that being said I've seen a
34:01
lot of apoplectic coverage of
34:03
hydroxychloroquine you had Jimmy Kimmel
34:05
saying the president's quote trying to
34:07
kill himself by taking it you had Joe
34:09
Scarborough saying quote this will kill
34:11
you Neil Cavuto saying what have you got
34:14
to lose them one thing you have to lose
34:16
our lives and you had Chris Cuomo
34:19
isn't it interesting although I don't
34:21
have the evidence that Cavuto said this
34:24
will kill you in Joe Scarborough from
34:27
another network said the same thing yeah
34:30
gee that's never happened before
34:32
uh-huh but this will kill you Neil
34:34
Cavuto saying what have you got to lose
34:37
them one thing you have to lose our
34:39
lives and you had Chris Cuomo saying the
34:42
president knows that hydroxychloroquine
34:44
is not supported by science he knows it
34:47
has been flying flagged by his own
34:48
people and he's using it well Cuomo
34:51
mocked the president for this and
34:54
interestingly I found this out just
34:55
before coming here
34:57
hydroxychloroquine of course is an
34:58
fda-approved medication with a long
35:01
proven track record for safety and it
35:03
turns out that Chris Cuomo took a less
35:06
safe version of it called quinine which
35:09
the FDA removed from the market in 2006
35:12
because of its serious side effects
35:14
including death so really interesting to
35:16
have that criticism of the President on
35:18
that note - Chris Cuomo I'd like to
35:20
redirect him to his brother the governor
35:22
of New York Governor Cuomo who has
35:25
several on-the-record statements about
35:27
hydroxychloroquine saying I'm an
35:29
optimist I'm hopeful about the drug and
35:31
that's why I will try it here in New
35:32
York as soon as we get it there has been
35:34
anecdotal evidence that it's promising
35:36
that's why we're going ahead and I have
35:38
about eight other quotes from Governor
35:39
Cuomo should any of you have enters
35:41
tonight and this is exactly why we have
35:44
otherwise intelligent people showing up
35:47
completely freaked out at my house
35:49
because of this of the media really
35:53
working against any messaging only
35:57
spreading fear and death and destruction
36:01
and when there's good news under or not
36:04
reporting it at all no not reporting it
36:07
at all you get that right the I am a Qi
36:09
model changed over this week and there's
36:12
now you know that they've just
36:13
subtracted a good 1020 thousand deaths
36:16
expected in the US and they have it
36:19
broken down by state I'm sure you
36:20
haven't heard that because no that's two
36:23
down no no that borders on good news
36:25
even if it borders on good news you
36:27
don't want to report it and so people
36:28
get very various invited by the way this
36:31
is beyond when it leaves that blue or
36:33
when it bleeds it leads this is just
36:35
Trump hate it's it's yeah but what yes
36:39
but what no in fact no what we heard
36:41
John was the pharmaceutical industry
36:44
immediately jumping in and saying stop
36:47
they had it ready as if they knew it
36:50
they had the packets ready for Pharma
36:52
they had the packets ready for Joe may I
36:54
just play just a reminder clip of RFK
36:58
jr. when he had a dinner with Rupert
37:01
Murdoch who owned Fox News just for a
37:05
reminder as to how that works and it'll
37:07
it'll make us all feel much better about
37:09
what happened
37:10
Anderson Cooper is sponsored by Pfizer
37:13
Erin Burnett is sponsored by Pfizer that
37:17
NBC Nightly News is answered by Merck
37:20
and Roger Ailes told me Roger Ailes not
37:28
Murdock but Ailes when he ran it very
37:31
well it was a bounder foxes I didn't
37:35
agree with him politically but we were
37:38
friends we spent a couple of months the
37:40
other attempt I was 18 years old and
37:42
Africa I had this you know really good
37:45
relationship with them and he understood
37:49
the issue and vaccine injury from a
37:51
personal experience with vaccine injury
37:54
where a kid who was close to him was
37:57
injured and so he knew it was true and
38:00
we made out make a film a documentary
38:04
about it a couple of years before he
38:07
died when he was ill at the height of
38:08
his powers then I asked him you know can
38:12
I come on I don't want to play it on Fox
38:14
I wanted to come on Fox and talk about
38:16
it he said I can't let you do that he
38:19
said in fact if any of my house allowed
38:22
you on their show I'd have to fire them
38:24
if I didn't I would get a call from
38:28
Rupert within 10 minutes so just so you
38:31
know that's what's going on the call you
38:34
know if you've done that a call in 10
38:36
minutes when the farm the pharmaceutical
38:39
industry they were ready all the
38:41
producers knew it hey if any one happen
38:44
crazy
38:45
use your packet here's what you say
38:47
here's the studies here's what your food
38:49
Oh in fact here's the here's a thumb
38:52
drive you can plug it right into your
38:54
prompter and suck out the copy they it's
38:58
shameful and naked Cavuto should be
39:01
ashamed of there's no I mean I'm happy
39:03
that that happened because now you see
39:04
it's not just CNN and MSNBC Fox Pharma
39:09
top of the list well they definitely did
39:13
there they did their bit so so anyway
39:15
Cain Lee continues with her little bit
39:18
and she just kind of wraps it up with a
39:20
with a another kind of a semi slam so he
39:23
she's finishing on her little complaint
39:26
to the media about their coverage in
39:31
their early phase of the FDA has
39:41
approved this for off-label use you know
39:43
this president's a big believer and the
39:45
right to try legislation people who say
39:49
what she's really a master at throwing
39:53
back the liberal memes the right to try
39:57
thing came out of the liberal side of
39:59
the of the political spectrum the FDA
40:05
has approved this for off-label use you
40:07
know this president's a big believer and
40:08
right to try legislation people who are
40:11
in their last one there are several
40:13
studies that have been brought that the
40:14
president has actually mentioned that
40:16
I'd refer you to there was one on his
40:17
France a French study involving more
40:21
than a thousand patients that found that
40:22
the vast majority had quote good
40:24
clinical outcomes and by the vast
40:26
majority that was more than ninety
40:27
percent there is an Italian study of
40:29
more than 65,000 patients that
40:31
demonstrated only twenty tested positive
40:34
of those who are taking at
40:35
prophylactically in a South Korea study
40:37
as well so there are several studies and
40:38
if you're someone out there and this is
40:40
a safe drug to use in your doctor
40:42
importantly to underscore that and your
40:43
doctor prescribes it for your use as a
40:45
prophylaxis or after coming into contact
40:48
with Kovac then it's something you
40:50
should take if it's prescribed by the
40:51
doctor and that's your personal medical
40:53
choices the Pharmacy Board in Texas they
40:57
had initially they had put a restriction
40:59
on hydroxychloroquine that's been lifted
41:04
this is more and more evidence that
41:06
thousands of health care workers are
41:08
taking it as a prophylactic and of
41:11
course it it's supposed to really only
41:13
work with zinc because what it does is
41:15
it loosens up whatever it needs to and
41:18
then INGOs the zinc and you're good to
41:19
go
41:19
but this gave great fodder for lots of
41:23
people and I think to their detriment I
41:26
don't think was smart what Speaker of
41:28
the House and head honcho Democrat
41:30
Pelosi did here to reaction to the
41:32
president saying that he is now other
41:33
than his her little banter with Anderson
41:35
Pugh
41:35
where that was cute too reaction to the
41:37
president saying that he is now taking
41:39
hydroxychloroquine or he's concerned
41:42
first let me say how happy I am about
41:45
your new baby how lovely
41:47
Wyatt Wyatt how perfectly names
41:51
what's this Wyatt is was it a Wyatt
41:53
Vanderbilt that I'm unaware of she's
41:57
thinking of Wyatt Earp why is that so
42:00
perfectly named slinger man we all know
42:08
why that is and that congratulations and
42:11
as you as you know our Father you see
42:13
how important it is to keep the world
42:15
safe for the children for the children
42:18
as far as the president is concerned the
42:23
our priests are president and I would
42:25
rather he not be taking something that
42:28
has not been approved by the scientists
42:31
especially in his age group and in his
42:34
shall we say wait group had but it is
42:36
morbidly obese exactly so III think that
42:41
was it's not a good idea okay thanks
42:44
Nancy of course Republicans got their
42:46
panties all in a bunch and fine let's
42:50
talk to a scientist let's talk to dr.
42:52
drew who despite his many bobbing and
42:55
weaving 'z we've stuck along with his
42:57
advice but not a big fan of his foul Qi
42:59
love and worship but if you want the
43:03
truth on something drew will do his best
43:06
to give it to you this make medical
43:08
sense yes listen people have got to
43:10
separate politics from the practice of
43:12
medicine he everything he said was
43:14
absolutely accurate it has been around
43:17
for 40 years it's been prescribed
43:19
hundreds of millions of times for
43:21
malaria I personally have prescribed it
43:23
hundreds of times from alaria hundreds
43:25
of times for rheumatic diseases I've
43:27
never seen one adverse side effect I
43:30
can't say that of Tylenol I can't say
43:32
that of aspirin now every medication has
43:35
risk that's just the way it is but in a
43:37
otherwise healthy person with maybe a
43:40
rheumatic condition or to prevent
43:42
malaria very safe medication do not
43:44
confuse it with chloroquine that
43:47
different then hydroxychloroquine out a
43:51
warning about both hydroxychloroquine
43:54
and chloroquine they said this warning
43:56
in April yeah that it can cause a
43:58
dangerous abnormality in heart rhythm or
44:00
virus patients Laura said about both of
44:02
them and that only in hospitals should
44:06
have be used and in clinical trials this
44:08
is not being used in a hospital and not
44:09
being used as a clinical trial correct
44:11
that's the FDA standard doctors are
44:14
entitled to do anything they want with a
44:17
medication they take on a certain degree
44:19
of liability they do when they do that
44:21
different than when something is
44:23
fda-approved we use off-label medication
44:26
all the time
44:28
some of our more common prescribing is
44:30
off-label not fda-approved now this is
44:33
for a not a hospital setting not a kovat
44:36
setting it's being used for prophylaxis
44:38
doctors take it themselves for
44:40
prophylaxis they prescribe it for
44:42
patients for prophylaxis the MTA says
44:44
that there's no evidence that that work
44:45
no they because that studies not been
44:47
done yet they're talking about the
44:49
treatment of Kovan you know the
44:51
treatment no preventive lis there's no
44:53
study that shows that that president is
44:56
doing this to prevent unless these lad
44:58
coronavirus and he's lying about doctors
45:01
can prescribe it prophylactically I know
45:04
many doctors are doing it I know many
45:06
doctors that are taking it themselves
45:07
because there's some evidence that it
45:09
might be prophylactic and it is so safe
45:11
so they feel like rather than do nothing
45:13
they'd rather do the the chloroquine
45:16
hydroxychloroquine not the chloroquine
45:18
which does have cardiac side effects the
45:20
whole look the studies on
45:22
hydroxychloroquine and the cardiac
45:23
effects have yet to be washed out
45:26
so that guy arguing with him the guy
45:31
sees a podcast like a suit youtuber you
45:34
know not a big show but I who the hell
45:38
knows just people want to argue and so
45:41
it kind of to wrap up the last 43
45:43
minutes if you look at the amount of
45:47
incredible confusion that's out there
45:50
that is freaking people out and messing
45:52
up their minds intelligent people mainly
45:55
because they they've been programmed
45:56
into not you know looking at any other
45:59
new sources and then again if you look
46:02
at the news those other knows new
46:03
sources they're all spouting the same
46:05
message for the big the big owners
46:07
behind it like the pharmaceutical
46:10
company when and then you have these new
46:13
art tribes this is actually kind of an
46:15
interesting observation a cross because
46:17
of course with the do the Rogen
46:18
announcement there's all kinds of
46:20
analysis of what's going on with
46:21
podcasting and apparently across the
46:23
board podcasting consumption has been
46:27
down during the corona crisis and many
46:30
people attribute that to a lack of
46:32
commuting which i think is true but I
46:35
also think it's the type of content most
46:38
content is nice bubblegum for when
46:40
you're doing something else when you're
46:42
on your way into work it's maybe it's a
46:45
news orient if it's probably showbiz
46:47
oriented or you know some other thing
46:50
whatever it is it's it's not critical to
46:53
your life but what happens with some
46:55
shows and I think that our media tribe
46:58
here is one of those is that people come
47:01
to us and they hear at least some
47:04
filtering of the bullcrap that's around
47:06
them so they can calmly and we're also
47:09
calm we haven't been that we have we
47:11
freaked out once in the past we've lost
47:16
in ladies and gentlemen it's calm and
47:18
it's calming and it makes you feel good
47:21
and this brings me to micro who was on
47:26
the Rubin report just two quick clips I
47:29
encourage it's in the show notes any
47:30
show knows calm encourage everyone to
47:32
watch the full hour micro have any very
47:34
no agenda minded and oriented in his
47:38
thinking
47:39
and he says that what he is seeing with
47:42
this kind of opening up and we're
47:44
starting to carefully figure out where
47:47
we're going and what we're doing but
47:48
have we really and no I think people are
47:51
so freaked out they don't they don't
47:52
know what to wait for they don't know
47:53
what the signal is don't know what the
47:55
all-clear is and he says it's very
47:57
simple to the five stages of grief
47:59
I've been comparing it to the
48:03
kubler-ross five stages of grief right I
48:07
mean the country's grieving in a sense
48:10
but we're all at different levels and
48:12
we're all grieving at different speeds
48:15
and we're trying to process a lot of
48:20
information and a lot of data without a
48:23
ton of context or perspective and so
48:26
what you wind up getting with that in my
48:28
view anyway is the opportunity to look
48:30
around and go oh look he's in denial and
48:34
he's bargaining and she's depressed and
48:37
she's angry and that was accepted it but
48:40
what have they accepted exactly have
48:42
they accepted the reality the virus the
48:44
reality of the lockdown or this weird
48:47
space that requires us to somehow
48:50
navigate both and then he goes into a
48:55
full theory about the safety first
48:58
culture and how when you are told that
49:01
you are safe because a company is
49:03
looking out for you say safety is on
49:06
your safety is our number-one job or
49:09
this car is so safe what do we do we
49:13
start to take risk
49:14
we start to let the Tesla auto drive for
49:17
a little bit and all kinds of things
49:19
like I have to worry too much about
49:20
looking over my shoulder anymore I got
49:22
those beep-beep things on my mirrors and
49:24
so we we really don't understand and
49:27
can't measure risks as human beings as
49:29
we cannot understand the risk of a kovat
49:34
19 which really you have to be older
49:38
than 65 to beacon sick to be seriously
49:42
worried versus automobile accidents you
49:46
know there's I think probably still a
49:48
little bit more automobile deaths in the
49:50
United States on annual basis let's not
49:52
talk about
49:52
the hundreds of thousands who were
49:54
maimed and and cut up and and can't walk
49:57
and turn into vegetables it's hundreds
50:02
of thousands yet we don't lock down cars
50:04
and tell people they can't drive
50:06
anywhere but in the neighborhood and
50:08
here's how he looks at that kind of risk
50:10
assessment exploring the unintended
50:12
consequences of a safety first culture
50:15
through the lens of a quarantine was to
50:18
me a really interesting rumination
50:20
because we can be a safety-first country
50:24
but only for very very very short
50:25
periods of time and then we're reminded
50:29
that the chief goal of living is not to
50:33
merely stay alive at least not not for
50:35
most people and then this fascinating
50:38
conversation starts to unfold so that's
50:40
a long way of saying that for the last
50:42
60 days or so I've seen a lot a lot of
50:47
conversation right around a couple
50:50
topics that I love it specifically
50:52
homeostatic risk compensatory risk risk
50:55
equilibrium and all the subconscious
50:57
things we do to maintain our own
51:00
illusory relationship with the illusion
51:04
of safety and so just you know like the
51:08
example of driving and automobiles and
51:11
death you know the consequences of
51:15
shutting down cities countries and
51:18
globes and yes economies no one thought
51:22
about it and the the risk was not
51:24
mitigated at all and worse we
51:27
collectively went now we trust the
51:29
scientists because we've been taught to
51:30
trust the scientists and now if you look
51:34
at the UK the UK is pushing harder that
51:38
well their media is assisting more at
51:41
least it's Channel 4's not the BBC yet
51:43
they had this the sage sa GE that was
51:46
there over the recommendation board that
51:49
recommended what actions to take and
51:51
they were listening to is very important
51:53
Neil Ferguson of course was also a key
51:55
member of Sage with his two million
51:57
people dead in America model built on 13
52:01
year-old undocumented code
52:03
and so now people are questioning well
52:06
first you wanted to go for hurt immunity
52:09
and then you want to close everybody
52:10
down and did you make the we make the
52:13
right decision in hindsight and so this
52:16
has been going around on the UK
52:17
Twitter's whereas Channel four News
52:19
woman is grilling one of these sage
52:21
members and he's not doing well did you
52:24
change your mind on herd immunity no
52:28
what is your what you mean by that herd
52:31
immunity is just a theme yeah immunity
52:34
your population immunity is is what is
52:38
what you know but for a period in March
52:43
the government appeared to be pursuing a
52:46
strategy of mitigating the spread of the
52:49
virus allowing children races for
52:51
example to go ahead to be march of
52:52
attention March 13th
52:54
allow you to spread naturally to allow
52:56
the development of some herd immunity
52:58
was that a mistake I don't know I'm not
53:03
quite sure whether that really was the
53:05
strategy I think I think that at the
53:08
time it was difficult to imagine or I
53:12
mean we weren't sure by what you know
53:16
what levels of compliance with various
53:19
social business measures what possible
53:21
was that why you didn't model full
53:24
lockdown until the middle of March I
53:27
think it was very hard I don't think
53:30
anybody looked at it it wasn't just
53:31
myself and I think anybody when we all
53:35
looked at a range of different measures
53:37
some of which were very stringent but it
53:40
was you know it's difficult to say you
53:44
know but it was difficult to imagine
53:46
just how well in some sense it was
53:49
difficult to imagine just how easy to
53:50
lock down what you see what I mean oh
53:52
yeah we see what you mean they're all
53:54
shitty John oh look how easy they're
53:57
going well crap stay home maybe actually
54:02
testing us yeah now we can't finish this
54:07
up without talking about Sweden I've
54:08
have received extensive written
54:10
boots-on-the-ground reports over Sweden
54:13
and let's just make sure we understand a
54:16
few things
54:16
to say Sweden did not shut down is a lie
54:19
bullcrap bullshit lie not true we saw
54:23
the Apple mobility data their transit
54:26
numbers had dropped to minus 40 percent
54:29
they were staying home they were
54:30
expected to stay home restaurants were
54:32
not open it was curbside and pick up
54:34
only many companies already were
54:38
prepared for at home work and please
54:41
also note that the typical Swedish home
54:43
only has two people so you don't have
54:45
grandma and the kids and the kids
54:48
bringing home stuff and infecting Big
54:50
Momma and pop-pop and getting them sick
54:53
very different situation but they most
54:55
certainly did social distance they did
54:57
all of that in fact they followed the
54:59
whu-oh guidelines to the tea they're so
55:02
compliant and they love it the people
55:05
who have written to me say we actually
55:07
feel we're a little bit superior to the
55:09
rest of you all that's look at Greta we
55:12
are superior we know how to do it that's
55:14
why they're being very quiet about their
55:16
strategy because it turns out they're
55:18
gonna have just about the same amount of
55:20
deaths and that's because ultimately
55:22
that no lockdown was necessary that's
55:25
what we're starting to see let's talk to
55:27
or let's listen to Swedish scientist
55:29
John Keats eka who explains here to sky
55:34
Australia really how the lock downs were
55:37
inefficient and he has a few questions
55:39
about where to go from here they do not
55:42
inefficient ineffective should say you
55:45
painted yourself into a corner and I'm
55:47
watching with interest how are you and
55:48
100 other countries will climb out to
55:51
the lockdown because I don't think any
55:53
government that I know gave a minute's
55:56
thought about how they would get out for
55:58
the different looks that are installed
55:59
take it school closure for example if
56:02
you close the schools when you're going
56:03
to open them what's the criteria I don't
56:05
think anyone thought about that when the
56:07
closure was was decided on and I think
56:10
there's very little chance to stop it by
56:12
any measure we take most people will
56:14
become infected by this and most people
56:16
won't even notice we have data now from
56:18
Sweden that shows that between 98 and 99
56:21
percent of the cases have had a very
56:24
mildly leg infection or didn't even
56:27
realize they were infected this spread
56:30
on this mild disease around the globe
56:32
and most of it is happening what we
56:34
don't see if it's among people that
56:35
don't get very sick spread it to someone
56:38
else it doesn't get very sick and what
56:40
we're looking at is a thin layer at the
56:42
top all people who do develop disease
56:44
and even thinner layer people that go
56:47
into intensive care and then even
56:49
thinner layer of people who die but the
56:51
real outbreak is happening why we don't
56:53
see it but I'm a new major succeed and
56:56
New Zealand may also succeed but I've
56:58
been asked myself well as New Zealand or
57:01
Australia has stamped out every case in
57:04
the country what do you do for the next
57:05
30 years will you should close your
57:08
borders completely quarantine for
57:09
everyone who's going to Australia or New
57:11
Zealand because the disease will be out
57:14
there I don't know how you're gonna
57:15
handle that butter and that's your
57:17
problem
57:18
screw you New Zealand that's your
57:21
problem so it appears that everything
57:25
was done exactly wrong involved and this
57:28
was the advice of the scientists who
57:30
should have known better
57:30
the majority that's over 50 but I think
57:34
it's closer to over 60 in general across
57:36
the world of people who died were over
57:39
65 and elderly and many in care
57:41
facilities we're in their 90's a lot
57:46
were dying anyway meant many were
57:49
already in hospice because they didn't
57:50
want to die in the hospital you know I
57:54
do have Governor Cuomo's rebuttal
57:57
towards the accusation that he killed
58:00
five thousand people by forcing sick
58:03
people to be kept at the nursing homes
58:08
if you'd like I think I think it's worth
58:10
it because again I don't blame him
58:14
because stuff is done during emergencies
58:17
and people make decisions and mistaken
58:23
for allowing the Trump death thing to be
58:25
sitting up there on Times Square it's a
58:29
death meter blaming Trump for everything
58:32
I that's where I blame him for but yeah
58:33
I think you should play this so here's
58:36
the opening question from the
58:38
journalists to families who've suffered
58:40
losses insight nursing homes and they're
58:43
looking for accountability and they'd
58:44
like to see justice for example I've
58:47
recently interviewed a family three
58:50
siblings they've had two nursing home
58:52
losses within a few weeks just so we
58:54
know there's no doubt that there was an
58:56
executive executive order that put sick
58:59
people in the nursing homes this is not
59:01
in dispute it's like but this killed
59:03
people and people feel that that
59:05
decision killed people and he's being
59:07
asked about it and his deflection is
59:09
phenomenal a family three siblings
59:11
they've had two nursing home losses
59:13
within a few weeks of one another on two
59:16
separate floors in the same facility
59:18
here in Albany they felt so much solace
59:20
when you got up and talked about
59:22
Matilda's law they said great we're
59:24
protected like our loved ones are gonna
59:26
be okay because of Matilda's law and
59:28
then their loved ones passed away
59:31
because they couldn't get the testing so
59:33
they're looking for accountability and
59:34
they feel that they were failed what
59:36
what's the comment to that yeah the
59:38
comment is this and I have those
59:40
conversations all day long with people
59:42
who've lost people right that's 139
59:45
people yesterday in hospitals who is
59:50
accountable for those 139 deaths how do
59:55
we get justice for those families who
59:58
had 139 deaths what is justice who can
1:00:02
we prosecute for those deaths nobody
1:00:07
nobody mother nature God where did this
1:00:12
virus come from people are going to die
1:00:16
by this virus that is the truth so he
1:00:20
doesn't answer the question at all the
1:00:21
flex to the hundred and thirty nine
1:00:23
people who died yesterday
1:00:25
and keeps doing it in fact fuck it let's
1:00:28
make it about me
1:00:28
folder people vulnerable people are
1:00:32
going to die from this virus that is
1:00:36
going to happen despite whatever you do
1:00:39
because with all our progress as a
1:00:42
society we can't keep everyone alive
1:00:45
despite what everything you did in the
1:00:50
crazy people and don't send sick people
1:00:57
to their facility and that is a fact and
1:01:02
that is not going to change and look to
1:01:07
me look really difficult conversations
1:01:10
for me deflection or my son was 40 years
1:01:14
old he was not a senior citizen did not
1:01:17
have a comorbidity and got this virus
1:01:21
because he was an essential worker and
1:01:24
doing the right thing and had an
1:01:27
aneurysm I'm sure that was Kovac related
1:01:30
I thought young people were fine
1:01:33
and he was doing the right thing as an
1:01:35
essential worker you know there's a
1:01:37
there's a randomness to this virus that
1:01:43
is inexplicable he will not he will not
1:01:49
address it he's he'll never admit it he
1:01:53
won't admit there was even a mistake
1:01:54
made there's not even a fall guy just
1:01:57
now shut up even what about you know
1:02:00
unapologetic even when pressed again
1:02:02
still that if the mandates that are
1:02:05
currently in place right now that we've
1:02:07
all just been talking about in here
1:02:08
we're in place from the get-go they feel
1:02:11
that their loved ones might still be
1:02:12
here I don't look look look people
1:02:18
rationalize death in different ways no
1:02:23
it's about the cause of death we'd like
1:02:25
to rationalize I don't think there is
1:02:27
any logical rationale to say they would
1:02:32
be alive today
1:02:33
Oh
1:02:35
we've had sure what I said from day one
1:02:40
but the fear is we overwhelm the
1:02:44
hospital system and then people die
1:02:48
because we couldn't get them the medical
1:02:51
care
1:02:52
that was an accountable of situation
1:02:57
that was Italy by the way people died in
1:03:00
hallways on Gurney's
1:03:02
in hospitals because the doctors and the
1:03:05
nurses were overwhelmed and because they
1:03:08
didn't have a ventilator they didn't
1:03:10
have a doctor available to do with you
1:03:12
that is a heartbreak because then you
1:03:16
say they didn't have to die
1:03:18
if the doctor had gotten to my mother my
1:03:21
mother would have been alive that's what
1:03:25
we protect against and we did it
1:03:27
successfully you protected against that
1:03:31
but you didn't protect those poor people
1:03:33
which brings me to the question what an
1:03:36
idiot they keep coming back to we needed
1:03:39
to protect the system the hospital
1:03:41
system so it wasn't overwhelmed well
1:03:44
mission accomplished you've killed the
1:03:47
people who actually flood flood the
1:03:49
hospital system when something is going
1:03:51
on that won't happen again
1:03:53
and I don't know you know Medicare
1:03:57
people they're very profitable for the
1:03:59
system but they clog it up so you almost
1:04:04
have to wonder was it just hate you know
1:04:05
if we can get rid of a whole bunch of
1:04:08
old people wouldn't it be good for the
1:04:12
insurance business and the hospital
1:04:13
system moving forward we'd rather have
1:04:15
young people we can tell they're
1:04:18
unintelligent unhealthy it's a dual
1:04:20
edged sword first of all you have the
1:04:22
old people who do make money for the for
1:04:25
the system but they don't make money for
1:04:29
the insurance companies exactly so know
1:04:32
that we had to get rid of us companies
1:04:34
make money for for themselves and for
1:04:36
the system and so it's only the
1:04:40
insurance companies that do who's got a
1:04:42
dog in them in the hunt because the
1:04:43
health care system doesn't care if
1:04:46
you're old or young because you get they
1:04:47
get the money they get the money
1:04:49
matter what and in fact many of him I've
1:04:51
talked to when I had my cataract
1:04:54
operation I talked to one of the people
1:04:56
that were setting the whole thing up
1:04:57
about paying Manson how much you have to
1:05:01
pay for this and that and who what's the
1:05:03
best system and what's the best
1:05:04
insurance company who does the best job
1:05:06
and she just said flat out that as far
1:05:09
as she's concerned and I finally get
1:05:11
this verified Medicare is the best
1:05:14
they're very reliable you said Bill you
1:05:15
know they get the fake that fees are
1:05:17
fixed you know you know what money
1:05:19
you're getting yet insurance companies
1:05:20
don't like that insurance companies
1:05:22
argue with everything hmm no that's too
1:05:24
much can I pay no Andy and they stall in
1:05:27
fact I had a doctor here in the area
1:05:29
that he had to close his entire practice
1:05:32
which is what people said that would
1:05:33
happen I would add and there's never
1:05:34
gonna happen it did this guy knows this
1:05:37
practice because he he had to have two
1:05:38
to many full time people you know on the
1:05:41
phone arguing with insurance companies
1:05:43
about every single charge yep I know
1:05:47
it's the worst and his and his his
1:05:50
theory had a theory I talked to him
1:05:51
about this he says he thinks that they
1:05:53
just do this hoping that that sometimes
1:05:56
they get you know the day they win a
1:05:58
battle but they they're just you'll
1:05:59
argue everything every single charge and
1:06:02
it's just his nightmare certain 830
1:06:04
cents on the dollar is what they want to
1:06:06
pay out that's it 30 cents on the dollar
1:06:08
and they get away with it so so I think
1:06:10
killing off a whole bunch of those
1:06:12
Medicare fuckers was it was a win for
1:06:13
them it probably was for the insurance
1:06:16
company well there you go heat lures and
1:06:18
they didn't want him in the hospitals we
1:06:21
don't want them in the hospital this you
1:06:23
know if someone would actually do some
1:06:25
work Matt Taibbi unless I just subscribe
1:06:29
to his whatever his his thing his new
1:06:32
thing see that all of in scam well scam
1:06:38
or not he does real work is gladly
1:06:40
employed it's an attempt to make money
1:06:42
yeah because Taibbi can't get enough
1:06:44
work right so I'm supporting him hello
1:06:47
it's only like 40 dollars a year or
1:06:48
something but hell yeah support that guy
1:06:52
because it will not materials quite good
1:06:54
it's very reasonable he's a he's a
1:06:56
progressive lefty that has a very
1:06:59
steadfast middle-of-the-road
1:07:02
style of true journalism he does not
1:07:04
slant his story he slants his stories in
1:07:07
the way we slant our stories which is to
1:07:10
slam the media for doing a piss-poor job
1:07:12
of everything I would love to hear your
1:07:17
origins of SARS cough - extravaganza
1:07:21
package you wanna hear it now yeah no I
1:07:25
want to hear it now I think that'll get
1:07:27
I got a little look one mention it was a
1:07:30
seven cards f er no things have not
1:07:33
changed that much okay economy's still
1:07:35
stable as we go but down it's low stable
1:07:39
checkmark recovery not in sight okay so
1:07:43
I ran into this podcast again this is
1:07:46
another example who brought on these
1:07:48
these these doctors who are experts in
1:07:52
epidemiology read their research their
1:07:55
research physicians and ones that I'll
1:07:57
give you their who they once a PhD in
1:07:59
biochemistry this show is done by Marc
1:08:04
young and a doctor I don't know his
1:08:06
first name gladden Chris Howard a PhD in
1:08:09
biochemistry and Lin Howard a pathless
1:08:12
an MD who is a pathogenic microbiology
1:08:15
and infection disease specialist the
1:08:17
name of the show the podcast the show is
1:08:20
called oh man I should be on this on
1:08:24
this sheet is something like living to
1:08:26
120 I think is the name of it a show
1:08:29
about long life and they've changed the
1:08:31
topic for this show to discuss the kovat
1:08:34
situation with people that have some
1:08:36
expertise and all the information
1:08:39
matches what the French Nobel was his
1:08:42
Montague knee a I thinks his name
1:08:45
Montague knee a the French Nobel Prize
1:08:51
winner in medicine who pretty much says
1:08:53
the same thing and he he extrapolated it
1:08:56
from pretty much as looking at the at
1:08:58
the virus and of course the argument
1:09:01
against montani and he did this around
1:09:03
April 20th of last you know last month
1:09:06
the argument against him was he's a
1:09:09
crackpot of course so he's a little bit
1:09:13
living beyond 120 that's the
1:09:15
when doing 120 yeah now also available
1:09:18
on Spotify the this by the way this is a
1:09:23
mediocre transcription but it is
1:09:26
understandable I did edit a few things
1:09:28
together I and I want to mention this
1:09:32
before I play this stuff because this is
1:09:34
not information that I'm dead
1:09:36
nobody can uncover but the thing is I've
1:09:41
noticed that I was looking at Montana
1:09:43
Hayes material and all of the slams
1:09:46
against them come out of India know
1:09:49
where they met where they make
1:09:49
everything well they make a lot of stuff
1:09:52
there but they also make a lot of
1:09:53
hydroxychloroquine things that are
1:09:54
exactly positive but I believe that
1:09:57
there was a COINTELPRO operation going
1:09:59
on when this guy came out with this idea
1:10:01
that the wand virus came from this lab
1:10:03
and they planted all these stories in
1:10:06
India because the Europeans aren't
1:10:09
picking up on CIA scams anymore where
1:10:11
you go you know the idea is you you find
1:10:13
an amenable outlet you put a story into
1:10:18
that outlet in the foreign land in the
1:10:20
in the Wuhan Gazette you put this stuff
1:10:24
out there and then it comes back in you
1:10:26
and then you just point to it hello New
1:10:28
York Times here reporting according to
1:10:30
the Wuhan Gazette pretty much so now I
1:10:34
got five clips it's a lot and so this is
1:10:37
gonna be but most of them are short
1:10:39
except the first one which gives us a
1:10:41
little insight into the into the virus
1:10:43
itself so we kind of understand that is
1:10:45
a variation on the cold virus or at one
1:10:47
of the cold viruses the other was a
1:10:49
rhino and it's a necessary background so
1:10:53
wit so this is clip one you have
1:10:55
inherent coronaviruses in most animal
1:10:58
species and humans we have corona
1:11:03
viruses we've had them we have over 100
1:11:05
different variants and historically
1:11:07
there are nothing more than an annoyance
1:11:10
and by that I mean when you consider
1:11:14
corona virus you're thinking of viral
1:11:17
sinus infections you're thinking of
1:11:19
common colds you're thinking of you know
1:11:21
when you say you have the kid crud a lot
1:11:24
of that is caused by a corona virus they
1:11:26
have a distinct ability to penetrate up
1:11:29
a feel
1:11:29
William your first line of defense in
1:11:32
the immune system actually so when when
1:11:35
you find a virus that can penetrate that
1:11:37
epithelium and activate and enter a host
1:11:40
cell then you pretty much have an
1:11:42
annoyance and it's usually a respiratory
1:11:44
issue it's never been the case where
1:11:47
it's been so variant now thinking back
1:11:50
to the 2002 2003 SARS SARS one they were
1:11:55
originally said they found it in bat
1:11:58
cave and this that and the other thing
1:12:00
but if you look at did she actually say
1:12:03
this that and the other thing as a
1:12:05
professional broadcaster she's not a
1:12:08
professional broadcaster obviously in
1:12:10
any professional broadcaster would never
1:12:11
say she also says okay a lot there's a
1:12:15
lot more to the day Mark Levin the great
1:12:22
one says that it once in a while yeah
1:12:23
six half in two dozen whatever they
1:12:27
originally said they found it in bat
1:12:30
cave and this that and the other thing
1:12:33
but if you look at the sequence of SARS
1:12:37
the RNA sequence versus the wild type
1:12:40
found in bats there are many
1:12:42
similarities however they're not
1:12:44
identical and the assumption is that it
1:12:48
made uh so not a leap from the back to
1:12:52
the human and in doing so mutated that
1:12:55
sounds reasonable
1:12:57
it does however when you look at the
1:13:00
sequences themselves you realize what
1:13:04
has changed is not your typical zoonosis
1:13:09
mutation what has changed you start to
1:13:13
dig deeper and find that many years ago
1:13:17
back to even going back to what the 80s
1:13:21
or 90s they have been manipulating
1:13:24
viruses to to learn more about them okay
1:13:27
so I'm a nip you lating I mean they make
1:13:32
them more transmissible more infectious
1:13:34
they make them more virulent once you
1:13:37
have the infection and it supposedly
1:13:39
teaches the scientist or the epic
1:13:43
geologist epidemiological behavior and
1:13:46
what is possible for the future this is
1:13:49
called gain-of-function research
1:13:51
gain-of-function research of
1:13:54
gain-of-function research is very
1:13:56
controversial you have two camps here
1:13:59
you have the scientific community that
1:14:01
says why
1:14:03
the reward does not outweigh the risk
1:14:06
here why do this and then you have the
1:14:09
other camp that says it's important it's
1:14:13
important for learning behavior it's
1:14:15
important for potential epidemics and
1:14:18
how to address those epidemics so if we
1:14:23
need to make a vaccine or a therapy
1:14:27
knowing where it's going is helpful in
1:14:30
getting a leg up on that in the wrong
1:14:32
hands these pathogens can be really
1:14:36
really problematic
1:14:39
all right so that's our background
1:14:46
gain-of-function yeah the
1:14:48
gain-of-function is we have talked about
1:14:51
that on this very show and in the
1:14:55
beginning in fact because this term has
1:14:56
been around this where you jack that
1:14:58
shit up and you can do so you can do fun
1:15:01
stuff with it now this there was a lot
1:15:05
of stuff at the beginning of this that
1:15:06
we discuss on the show that is
1:15:08
disappeared from the internets and a lot
1:15:13
of it had to do with the Wuhan Lab and
1:15:15
then it got it just got short sheeted by
1:15:18
the media the no no no it's just the
1:15:21
coincidence that that lab that
1:15:23
specializes in coronavirus research is
1:15:25
in the vicinity it had nothing to do
1:15:28
with it and there's a bunch of people
1:15:29
that come out of the woodwork a lot of
1:15:30
them in these Indian publications I'm
1:15:32
gonna have to write an essay about this
1:15:33
to point out this COINTELPRO operation
1:15:36
that's going on I don't know who's doing
1:15:38
it showing that these Indian
1:15:40
publications which have slammed this
1:15:42
poor guy montagnier yeah they've smeared
1:15:45
him so he can't do anything anymore but
1:15:47
he kind of figured this out on his own
1:15:49
but these guys are figuring it out too
1:15:51
and others have figured it out and
1:15:53
people know this and what we're going to
1:15:54
hear now is going to be an exposition of
1:15:58
why this has to be from that lab and
1:16:00
it's not a debunked theory the only
1:16:04
debunking was a professor moong tan yay
1:16:08
then the whole thing is just something
1:16:10
there's a scam going on here let's watch
1:16:13
playboy gambling what let's go to part 2
1:16:18
from what I'm finding from the cell
1:16:20
lines that they grew the original
1:16:25
coronavirus X on what I'm finding is
1:16:30
they've grown them out to gain a
1:16:32
function function research figured out
1:16:35
ways to make them very infectious and
1:16:38
transmissible so they could say I'm
1:16:41
you're saying that the koban 19 is
1:16:43
basically man-made in a sense that it's
1:16:46
not a sense innocent okay if you want to
1:16:49
say in a sense but yes
1:16:50
that's what I am I am inferring here but
1:16:54
it's plain we're playing with nuclear
1:16:56
weapons here well and the other thing
1:16:58
too to jump back to Lin's point where
1:17:01
when you look at evolutionarily that
1:17:02
viruses mutate and and jump from species
1:17:06
or change hosts the main driver of those
1:17:10
changes is evolutionary pressure to be
1:17:15
able to bind better okay it's it's we
1:17:17
need to shape the viruses around for one
1:17:19
thing it's not to make you sick it's to
1:17:20
make more virus that's it right you you
1:17:23
get sick because your body reacts to the
1:17:24
virus the long and the short of it is
1:17:26
though when a virus finds a good mode of
1:17:30
attachment you're gonna see less change
1:17:34
okay well the SARS one and the Tsarskoe
1:17:39
vid 2 have absolutely identical means of
1:17:44
attachment from the ACE to inhibitor
1:17:46
binding to s1 s1 splitting from the TMP
1:17:49
RSS to binding site it opens up and you
1:17:52
get exocytosis into the cell which what
1:17:54
you know so there's no no difference
1:17:57
between SARS one and SARS two in that
1:17:59
respect except for the internal internal
1:18:02
annex of the virus different which I'm
1:18:04
not in wild there you usually see
1:18:06
viruses changing we're saying that SARS
1:18:08
was manmade also SARS one wasn't the
1:18:15
gain-of-function research that's what
1:18:17
was outlawed that was stopped because
1:18:19
the funding specifically my
1:18:22
understanding is what was outlawed was
1:18:24
the chimeras right which is gate which
1:18:27
was used for a gain-of-function
1:18:30
development and the Chimera is where you
1:18:33
take two different viruses and you
1:18:35
combined and you know aspects of both of
1:18:37
them right and make a monster which is
1:18:39
what this appears to be and that
1:18:42
research was was going on I think in
1:18:45
Fort Detrick and then they would got
1:18:47
kicked out of the country now that's
1:18:49
where the three or four million dollars
1:18:51
and doctor foul Chi and the Wuhan Lab
1:18:54
came into play because that's where the
1:18:56
money went there because they can still
1:18:57
do it legally and so that's what they're
1:18:59
working on is it you know if I look at
1:19:02
the preconditioning that I had
1:19:04
for this from movies and television
1:19:06
shows
1:19:07
wouldn't it be that since part of it was
1:19:11
basically manufactured in a lab well you
1:19:14
call it whatever you call it
1:19:15
gain-of-function chimera however it's
1:19:17
put together someone has the key someone
1:19:21
has the the main thing that you need to
1:19:24
put the vaccine together don't you well
1:19:29
I think if some of these new new
1:19:30
machines to do genetic that do splicing
1:19:32
genes splicing other things they don't
1:19:34
explain how how specifically it was done
1:19:36
but that's up those are high-tech
1:19:38
methodologies that are but patent not
1:19:41
patentable but they're their trade
1:19:42
secrets I mean you're not gonna find out
1:19:44
how they did it right but but just the
1:19:46
fact that someone's there when they
1:19:48
created it so the reverse engineering
1:19:50
and oh we need this antibody or this
1:19:53
particular gene widget you know we can
1:19:58
we can make this mRNA vaccine with it
1:20:01
which is all different from other issue
1:20:04
but here's a this is side note but I'm
1:20:07
reading all this documentation on
1:20:09
montagnier and he's the one who
1:20:11
discovered there's HIV yes the material
1:20:14
in here but he also I'm gonna read from
1:20:16
it from one of the papers written in
1:20:18
India because they're mocking him all
1:20:19
the guy's an idiot he turns out to be a
1:20:22
vac sir guy and he's also thinks
1:20:24
homeopathy is not a bad thing it's
1:20:28
everything wrong with him go away yes he
1:20:32
also did this way in a mocking sense the
1:20:34
guy says you argue during a TV interview
1:20:36
of the French channel that elements of
1:20:38
hiv-1 retro vies which can be discovered
1:20:40
in which he Co discovered can be found
1:20:42
in the genome of the new coronavirus he
1:20:45
also said elements of the malaria germ
1:20:48
the parasite plasmodium Phylis life fall
1:20:54
sippy UPS like what would work against
1:20:58
the malaria thing do we have anything in
1:21:00
the arse hydroxy so I'm saying adapt
1:21:05
they built in an automatic back door yes
1:21:09
a whore yeah that's that's that's the no
1:21:12
no it's not it's not the back door it's
1:21:14
the it's like the kill switch it's like
1:21:16
a yeah you might
1:21:17
well okay you want to call it that so
1:21:19
you have this and I don't know what's
1:21:21
talked about this by the way and I've
1:21:22
only spotted it like holy crap and so
1:21:26
that would make nothing but since then
1:21:28
it says okay well we don't we what
1:21:31
happens if this gets out because you
1:21:32
have to have that on your mind if you're
1:21:34
not really trying to create a bio weapon
1:21:36
right or even if you are creating a bio
1:21:38
weapon what can we do to stop it so we
1:21:40
don't get it and you please slipping a
1:21:42
little aspect that just gets killed but
1:21:45
this is dies how about that huh that's
1:21:48
interesting so that I find that
1:21:50
interesting that wasn't precise on this
1:21:51
piece that I can tell but anyway let's
1:21:53
go into part three but but with regards
1:21:57
to kovat you think Ovid because kovat is
1:22:03
the infectious disease process cope it
1:22:06
is exhibiting the disease caused by the
1:22:09
virus if we're talking about virus right
1:22:11
now let's talk about SARS Kovac - that's
1:22:14
what the ideological agent is for the
1:22:17
disease state okay let's talk about SARS
1:22:20
Kovac - so what went into making SARS
1:22:23
Koba - isn't it a chimera isn't it -
1:22:26
right well that's exactly it 'no chimera
1:22:28
by definition is made in the lab so mara
1:22:31
just so the audience understands is
1:22:33
basically when you take and lynne you
1:22:34
may want to describe us when you take
1:22:36
two things and basically fuse them
1:22:37
together on some level yeah that that's
1:22:40
a very simplistic way of putting it it's
1:22:43
not so much a fusion but it is a way of
1:22:48
incorporating other characteristics from
1:22:52
other viruses to create something um i
1:22:56
don't want to speak on motive or why
1:22:59
they would do it my guess is originally
1:23:02
maybe they thought okay this would be a
1:23:06
good way a good vector a good depository
1:23:09
to create an HIV vaccine because the
1:23:14
problem with retroviruses is they don't
1:23:16
have that ability to penetrate
1:23:17
epithelium to get through that barrier
1:23:19
so vaccinating someone for HIV is very
1:23:23
challenging however if they could find a
1:23:27
way to carry it
1:23:28
maybe another virus through
1:23:30
to the epithelium through the epithelium
1:23:33
to deposit vaccine or antigen in this
1:23:36
case that maybe that's a motive
1:23:39
transmission of a motive action
1:23:41
Wow let me see if I can get this right
1:23:43
what I'm hearing her say is that and
1:23:46
perhaps the reason why the
1:23:48
gain-of-function research continued
1:23:50
under the auspices of foutch II and the
1:23:53
NIH money in the Wuhan lab is of course
1:23:56
the lifelong mission of doctor doctor
1:23:59
foul Qi to come up with the AIDS vaccine
1:24:02
and they were trying to find a virus
1:24:05
that would be able to inject some kind
1:24:07
of vaccination all property against ants
1:24:11
wow that's a great fine that's very
1:24:14
interesting and and we had that what's
1:24:16
the name of it isn't it it's like it's
1:24:18
like a parachute you know it's like and
1:24:20
if it goes wrong just grab some
1:24:23
hydroxychloroquine oh you're safe it's
1:24:25
like an ejector seat only less violence
1:24:29
I would say what you said is let's
1:24:32
assume everything you said is true why
1:24:35
are they keeping this information from
1:24:37
the public and why are they not - why's
1:24:40
the hydroxychloroquine thing being
1:24:42
suppressed and why does Trump know all
1:24:45
this stuff
1:24:45
now trumpet that there's gonna be two
1:24:48
more confirmations of some of trumps
1:24:49
assertions one of them is the
1:24:52
hydroxychloroquine he was on that early
1:24:54
why did he who read him in on this and
1:24:57
second he says that the virus is going
1:25:00
to go away magically and he's uses the
1:25:02
term hot and these guys will say the
1:25:05
same thing and they'll explain why in
1:25:06
the next couple Clips so Trump knows
1:25:09
something and he has to assume foul
1:25:12
cheese up to his ears in this so he
1:25:14
knows he knows if out she has also been
1:25:16
you know D he's behind it he's not even
1:25:21
read in he's the guy doing it yes so why
1:25:25
is this information being subtly
1:25:27
suppressed but you're being called a
1:25:29
crackpot if you're the case of a Nobel
1:25:31
Prize winning doctor in medicine who
1:25:33
just saw this he can see it a mile away
1:25:36
why is this not only being suppressed
1:25:39
but being what did the opposite story is
1:25:42
being told to freak out the public
1:25:44
I mean this is not what is going on him
1:25:47
I mean I'm very annoyed by these clips
1:25:49
by the way no I think lips because we've
1:25:54
been talking about this the whole time
1:25:55
you're still in the anger stage yes it's
1:25:58
probably exactly it oh here we go with
1:26:00
origins of cars for when they first
1:26:02
uncoated supposedly the genome of
1:26:06
Tsarskoe - there were four subsets that
1:26:10
are identical to portions of the a gnome
1:26:13
of HIV which that's a different alphabet
1:26:19
in between letters of your alphabet that
1:26:21
just got there accidentally yeah it's
1:26:24
impossible in nature for this - that was
1:26:26
that was my question yes this couldn't
1:26:28
have happened this couldn't have been
1:26:29
mole I'm just I'm gonna put some stuff
1:26:32
in the show notes because I just because
1:26:34
we were talking about everyone is
1:26:36
hydroxychloroquine effective against
1:26:38
SARS one and the first thing that pops
1:26:40
up is a article from foul cheese outfit
1:26:44
at NIH 2005 Clark Laura Quinn is a
1:26:49
potent inhibitor in SARS coronavirus
1:26:51
infection and spread and if SARS one the
1:26:55
basics of it the carrier the shell the
1:26:58
tank if that is equivalent to SARS one
1:27:04
then this knowledge is quite well-known
1:27:08
inside the NIH yeah I'll put this again
1:27:13
this is what's annoying well because the
1:27:16
only thing I can think well there's only
1:27:18
a couple things control vaccine money
1:27:22
what else is there well it's a good you
1:27:24
know it's one of those things where you
1:27:26
say that good you don't let a good
1:27:27
crisis go to waste everybody's jumping
1:27:30
in on it yeah yeah there's money to be
1:27:32
made us make some money we did that the
1:27:33
public doesn't need to know all this
1:27:35
stuff because they're who gives a shit
1:27:37
they're stupid anyway and the thing is
1:27:39
when of course they end w end up with a
1:27:41
situation that you just had at your
1:27:43
house with the woman that's you know
1:27:45
freaky she's six feet away from you in a
1:27:47
damn dinner party I have one similar
1:27:50
coming up Jay's a good old college
1:27:53
roommate best friend came back from
1:27:55
China s you got escaped China some time
1:27:57
ago
1:27:58
yeah before it you know she was teaching
1:28:00
there and she's gonna so Jay says to me
1:28:03
they're gonna become and driving down to
1:28:05
Palm Springs to visit her grandmother's
1:28:08
90-something yeah and she says if she
1:28:11
wants to know if they can park up on the
1:28:14
driveway so they can spend the night and
1:28:16
I said we got an extra bedroom just have
1:28:19
him sleep in there were they sleeping in
1:28:22
the car yeah oh no no she doesn't want
1:28:30
to come in because she's afraid this it
1:28:33
kills her grandmother she'll never
1:28:35
forgive herself and not and well I can
1:28:39
understand this too I can kinda get that
1:28:41
too
1:28:42
I mean but honestly you know it's like
1:28:46
Christina her grandma I told you the
1:28:49
grandma turn 94 she had to go visit and
1:28:52
the grandmas in the popemobile without
1:28:54
wheels just just a glass popemobile yeah
1:28:58
are you doing and it's like you know
1:29:01
Tina's gonna see here mom she's she's
1:29:03
not doing great what she's doing much
1:29:05
better than she was but you're gonna go
1:29:06
see you and yet so she can't actually go
1:29:08
see her she can be with her sisters but
1:29:10
you know decides not to be with one
1:29:11
sister because it could in fact that
1:29:13
when you when someone's older when
1:29:15
you're up in the upper 70s that's
1:29:16
exactly who we should be protecting so
1:29:19
I'm all for that
1:29:20
actually and you know that they look
1:29:25
these people know what you are you're
1:29:27
probably a Republican they don't want
1:29:29
anything to do with you I know that's
1:29:36
what people think though if you these
1:29:39
these wonderful girls who were here last
1:29:41
night you know they know they know for
1:29:42
sure I'm not a Democrat and we're able
1:29:47
to have a yeah that's an insult to call
1:29:50
me anything cuz I'm completely
1:29:51
unaffiliated but when I say well so okay
1:29:55
so how what is what what do you what
1:29:57
will make you feel comfortable so we can
1:30:00
open back up or when will you not put a
1:30:04
mask on and she's and the answer is well
1:30:08
other countries do it all the time so
1:30:09
one you know this is very nor
1:30:11
we can just wear mast when we're out and
1:30:13
it just can be a thing like you know
1:30:14
like other like and it came out of it
1:30:16
like China okay and I said well you know
1:30:21
there's there's a lot of other
1:30:22
information and that's where the brain
1:30:25
freeze comes in teacher it she knows how
1:30:28
to research did I ever there's so much
1:30:31
and I you know people either either you
1:30:35
bypass and go straight to the
1:30:37
information you can get it then you know
1:30:39
the the the journals are out there it's
1:30:42
a lot of work you can listen to our show
1:30:44
or their shows like it
1:30:45
who's filtered down and bring you some
1:30:48
information but if you're if you're
1:30:50
really only consuming the main stream
1:30:52
who clearly including fox pharma news
1:30:56
are controlled by china and the
1:31:00
pharmaceutical industry and you're
1:31:03
getting bad product shit products dog
1:31:07
crap products exactly bad bad product
1:31:10
and these people should be ashamed of
1:31:11
themselves and they're making a lot more
1:31:13
money than we are but that's beside that
1:31:14
what did you finish clip for no yes if v
1:31:17
is on deck okay here's the clip five and
1:31:19
this is the I think is there yet in
1:31:23
summary I think this is an important
1:31:25
clip because this again there's nothing
1:31:27
that in these clips that we haven't
1:31:28
discussed in one way or the other and I
1:31:30
got more clips on those on the sunday
1:31:32
show coming from the same interview
1:31:34
because they talked about a
1:31:35
hydroxychloroquine and some other things
1:31:37
but this clip is important to pay
1:31:40
attention to because I think this is
1:31:41
going on and I think again this is why
1:31:43
Trump Trump knows something here we go
1:31:46
again if evolutionary pressure usually
1:31:49
is based on the binding it doesn't
1:31:51
change the inside internal RNA DNA
1:31:55
strands of viruses because they know
1:31:57
what they're gonna make you'll also find
1:31:59
with chimeras as they reproduce
1:32:00
themselves you get a shift back towards
1:32:02
the natural heights by the wild-type the
1:32:04
originals it's not sequence it's not
1:32:06
natural so as it goes through patient
1:32:09
after patient and population after
1:32:11
population when you hear there are now
1:32:14
30 strains it's not really thirty
1:32:17
strains they're still identical binding
1:32:19
it's just kind of changing enough to
1:32:22
revert back to the wild-type
1:32:24
I look forward to it - what you got on
1:32:27
Sunday this is this is very good now
1:32:29
let's go back to what she just said this
1:32:32
explains a lot
1:32:34
this explains why it when it first got
1:32:37
out of the lab and we talked about that
1:32:38
in the last show with the satellite date
1:32:40
and the imagery and the cell phone usage
1:32:42
around the lab when it got out everyone
1:32:44
freaked out right and this was the first
1:32:46
generation the first generation would be
1:32:48
the most virulent the worst of most
1:32:49
deadliest and that's the one that killed
1:32:51
a lot of people in they had to shut down
1:32:52
the whole area and that's the one that
1:32:55
got into Italy because they did the
1:32:58
garment manufacturers and Italy have all
1:33:01
been taken over by the Chinese many of
1:33:03
them based in Wuhan and they were going
1:33:05
right into it in northern Italy rest
1:33:07
flight Pacific direct flight directs why
1:33:09
direct flights direct flights boom boom
1:33:11
boom and they got in there and they
1:33:12
today contaminated Italy with the Furley
1:33:16
versions of the virus Indy and that's
1:33:18
when you started talking about the idea
1:33:19
well there's two versions as a deadly
1:33:22
one and the not in Delhi we know this
1:33:23
was the same thing that was
1:33:25
deteriorating and that the 35 strains
1:33:28
which is unusual is a big part of the
1:33:30
deterioration process and so they so
1:33:32
those Italians got the early part of it
1:33:35
we're still virulent they were on the
1:33:38
frontlines they they took the the first
1:33:40
breaking fire took a direct hit New York
1:33:45
- direct hit from Wuhan direct flights
1:33:47
incoming direct hits war we're at war
1:33:49
John and so meanwhile the West Coast we
1:33:52
had we pretty much and the Chinese that
1:33:55
live out here pretty much cut off all
1:33:57
Wuhan stuff and so we have a mild like
1:34:01
many generations later and you go to
1:34:03
places like Wyoming in South Dakota
1:34:06
where there's nothing and there they're
1:34:08
gonna get any viruses it's gonna show up
1:34:10
it's gonna be back to this old just a
1:34:12
common cold type of Corona boy so this
1:34:16
thing is going downhill fast
1:34:18
reverberations like SARS that people say
1:34:20
oh you know we're gonna have to do this
1:34:21
for the next 20 years every every fall
1:34:24
we're gonna have a horrible outbreak
1:34:26
what happened to the original SARS that
1:34:29
thing was done in four months
1:34:32
you know another thing that I've heard
1:34:34
in anecdotal research from people
1:34:36
outside of this house is I wish that the
1:34:40
government would be would communicate
1:34:43
the information better and and and I
1:34:47
think that our government does
1:34:49
communicate the information but it's
1:34:52
distorted between the government and you
1:34:55
the only place you can get it is from
1:34:58
Trump's Twitter feed and at least 50% of
1:35:02
the United States has been programmed to
1:35:04
believe that is only bad and well it
1:35:07
will kill you as we just heard it will
1:35:09
kill you so this you know it's it's been
1:35:13
distorted and I hope I hope that people
1:35:17
coming out of this see that wait a
1:35:20
minute we're not being served and we
1:35:23
didn't know crap and if if they really
1:35:25
don't understand that it's the messenger
1:35:27
in-between then those people now they
1:35:29
could they're not gonna last long it's
1:35:31
kind of because they're gonna try again
1:35:34
in November they're gonna try this again
1:35:37
it's unhealthy yeah so anyway so that
1:35:41
kind of that I found to be a very unique
1:35:44
very good presentation and and and
1:35:48
reasonable and it's the only thing in
1:35:49
the thing about this all all makes sense
1:35:52
I mean for one thing they do a lot of
1:35:54
people talk about the horseshoe bat they
1:35:56
don't sell those at the wet market so
1:35:58
it's all the bad things bullshit
1:36:00
and then now the biggest scandal is oh
1:36:03
the Chinese are destroying the virus and
1:36:05
their neck and I let our people go in to
1:36:07
see they're destroying that first
1:36:09
generation because that's the deadly one
1:36:11
they gotta get rid of it they can't keep
1:36:13
it around because apparently they you
1:36:14
know her lousy lab can't keep anything
1:36:17
anything intact
1:36:18
it'll hurt you bad
1:36:21
well like before we break I could go and
1:36:25
finish this with Kayleigh because she
1:36:26
discusses us a little bit but I'd like
1:36:30
I'd like a full Kayleigh block if you
1:36:32
don't mind I think you can I'd like a
1:36:34
three scoops of Kayleigh after the break
1:36:36
well the joint two scoops that Kayleigh
1:36:39
left oh but if we can do it after the
1:36:41
break and I have some sprinkles on it
1:36:43
then
1:36:45
well I split one of them into so yeah
1:36:48
well before we do that we need to uplift
1:36:51
everybody and let you know that
1:36:53
everything's going to be okay just we're
1:36:57
on the front lines of opening here in
1:36:58
Texas yes even Austin and I can tell you
1:37:03
that people are going into the h-e-b
1:37:05
without masks people are going with
1:37:07
masks I see no apparent evidence of
1:37:10
stink-eye now remember we're on the east
1:37:12
side of Austin so it's not quite the
1:37:14
site the same as West Lake or the hill
1:37:17
country or Tarrytown but there's no
1:37:21
stink-eye people are feeling good I went
1:37:22
to my first spin class yesterday and and
1:37:27
it was open and it was of course a
1:37:29
smaller group than than typical and it
1:37:32
and felt great I will be hurting very
1:37:34
much later on this afternoon and
1:37:36
tomorrow but you know things are going
1:37:38
well in Texas when you get this report
1:37:41
just everything we possibly can to make
1:37:43
sure people have a good time
1:37:43
but it's safe Kelly Jones is a manager
1:37:46
at the Palacio gentlemen's club in South
1:37:48
Austin he says their employees along
1:37:52
with dancers and entertainers in the
1:37:53
industry have had it tough a lot of
1:37:55
people I know that are entertainers
1:37:56
actually defended contractors much like
1:37:58
hairdressers so they had a lot of issues
1:38:00
collecting unemployment they work on
1:38:02
cash tips like a lot of other people our
1:38:03
service industry so they're struggling
1:38:05
as well a lot of them have families and
1:38:07
kids they're trying to make sure that
1:38:08
they have arrangements for childcare
1:38:10
food on the table and now they'll be
1:38:11
back to work Friday but with a long list
1:38:13
of safety protocols in effect that
1:38:15
includes how many people can get into
1:38:17
this building which normally holds close
1:38:19
to 300 people oh we have to cut that
1:38:21
down to supply with the governor's order
1:38:22
of 25 percent capacity gonna be back the
1:38:26
old days and hand clickers making sure
1:38:27
what our capacity is we're gonna have to
1:38:30
have areas around our stages so our
1:38:31
customers have social distancing from
1:38:33
the entertainer's as far as private
1:38:36
dances go they're gonna have to maintain
1:38:37
that six foot that's a shitty lot dance
1:38:43
man but of course there are also a bar
1:38:51
answer food we're gonna have to go to
1:38:52
plastic where instead of nice metal
1:38:54
knives and forks paper napkins placemats
1:38:56
plastic cups bartenders and our staff
1:38:59
we're gonna make sure that we follow
1:39:00
hand-washing policies our employees
1:39:01
definitely are wearing masks
1:39:03
including the entertainers so we're
1:39:05
encourage them to be creative plan fit
1:39:06
in their life that maybe goes with their
1:39:07
outfits and we also have employees
1:39:09
specifically designated for constantly
1:39:11
cleaning the place and while it won't be
1:39:13
a full house believe me they they were
1:39:15
constantly cleaning that place before
1:39:16
our Cove it by any means again I'm so
1:39:22
proud of Texas it's the Texas beaches
1:39:28
and with that I'd like to thank you for
1:39:29
your courage is he in the morning to you
1:39:30
the my yawn who put the C in SARS cough
1:39:33
to John C Dvorak yeah well in the
1:39:37
morning to you uh mr. Adam curry also in
1:39:40
the morning to all boots on the ground
1:39:41
feet in the air subs in the water and
1:39:43
all the dames and nights out there and a
1:39:46
big in the morning to the trolls who are
1:39:48
in the troll room let's count up one two
1:39:51
zero to fifteen hundred not bad for a
1:39:53
Thursday of course we're in full
1:39:54
lockdown mode still for most although I
1:39:57
think we've got a lot of essential
1:39:58
personnel dudes named Ben dudettes named
1:40:01
Bernadette medical personnel we've got a
1:40:03
lot of people and so happy and they're
1:40:07
trolling hard right now
1:40:08
well no agendas dream.com is where you
1:40:10
can join in the fund the trolls are
1:40:12
there 24 hours a day there's all kinds
1:40:15
of live shows if you checked in last
1:40:16
night you would have gotten a live Nick
1:40:17
the rat I think is Wednesday nights also
1:40:20
a rat also other podcasts
1:40:22
that you can discover there no agendas
1:40:25
dream.com and while you're there asked
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for an invitation to no agenda social
1:40:29
calm just actually down earlier the this
1:40:32
morning let me see was it yeah it could
1:40:36
have been for some maintenance right you
1:40:37
know what this is run by no it's up it's
1:40:39
fine there we go no to my socials good
1:40:41
yeah we've got Erin her running the show
1:40:44
over there so it's a it's under a lot of
1:40:47
weight a lot of images a lot of being a
1:40:49
member of the Fed averse is not trivial
1:40:52
but it it worked no agenda social calm
1:40:56
and we would like to thank the artists
1:40:58
who brought us the artwork for episode 1
1:41:00
2 for 3 we titled that Obama Bowl and
1:41:03
this was the this was the tennis balls
1:41:08
from Mike Riley which now we had a long
1:41:13
discussion about the art I remember yes
1:41:16
and of course the tennis balls were
1:41:19
referring to the regulations of not
1:41:21
kicking or touching anyone else's balls
1:41:23
in New York and what else was was in the
1:41:27
running there were a number of things
1:41:29
well it was a lot of art yeah I'm gonna
1:41:33
have to go look at this too cuz it's
1:41:36
probably you know the artists do
1:41:37
appreciate us deconstructing the art
1:41:40
this so they can know what to do there's
1:41:44
a couple pieces I've noticed I should
1:41:47
mention there's a piece uh down called
1:41:51
by rude dog it looks like who did a nice
1:41:55
little United States trace force
1:41:58
Department of Health logo it's kind of
1:42:02
an acute piece except you know if you're
1:42:04
gonna do this you got it balance the
1:42:06
thing out that that Department of Health
1:42:07
thing has got to be slid around yeah
1:42:09
over cuz it's off center and we're not
1:42:12
we like these sorts of things but not if
1:42:14
they're off-center that wasn't that
1:42:18
something new from today that wasn't
1:42:20
even in in concern I saw it from yet is
1:42:23
new but I saw it in the evergreens as I
1:42:25
was looking for something for the
1:42:26
newsletter so I'm so ed so now here it
1:42:28
is I told him so if he has time if he's
1:42:30
listening to this show he okay probably
1:42:32
is not I think he's submitted
1:42:34
things just as evergreen ideas but what
1:42:39
else was in this one that was submitted
1:42:41
we had I like the tennis ball with the
1:42:42
no agenda logo on it there wasn't you
1:42:46
know that the waves didn't kind of the
1:42:49
truth you like the tennis balls with
1:42:52
because of the girls it was a girls
1:42:53
holding the balls yes it was nailed nail
1:42:58
polish fingers yes well then again only
1:43:00
from a professional standpoint because I
1:43:02
know what people will be attracted to
1:43:05
yeah and it really wasn't science mad
1:43:10
science wasn't that much the art was it
1:43:18
was hard so to do art for and now again
1:43:21
by the way and that the RIC is coming in
1:43:23
comic strip blogger once again as he
1:43:25
does constantly dependently never
1:43:28
listens to the show because i have said
1:43:30
a million times that I'm vetoing any art
1:43:32
that has a coronavirus or in there I
1:43:36
think is a creepy-looking anything he
1:43:41
keeps doing I don't know if he's doing
1:43:42
it on purpose because he's that way it
1:43:45
always reminds it by the way any if you
1:43:47
go on an image search any virus what
1:43:51
will look like this one the any
1:43:54
rendering of a virus always looks like
1:43:56
this it's a different color and that
1:43:58
makes it Corona it's bull crap and it
1:44:00
looks like one of those crazy Minds from
1:44:03
the submarine in this case it looks like
1:44:05
a sub mind yeah Reverend run silent run
1:44:07
deep and try to mine Ice Station zebra
1:44:10
you know my these those mines look like
1:44:13
that agreed agreed
1:44:17
well we're very appreciative of Mike
1:44:18
Riley for for doing that artwork for us
1:44:21
it was a great great value to the show
1:44:24
and I know that it's a fact that
1:44:27
scientific that people gladly click on
1:44:30
that because hey there's something new
1:44:31
going on it's not the same art
1:44:33
throughout the whole list is something
1:44:35
new it's exciting and it's very valuable
1:44:37
and we appreciate that my grad Mike
1:44:39
Riley and all of the artists of course
1:44:41
who participate by submitting artwork of
1:44:44
knowledge and art generator comm they
1:44:46
very much and we'd like to thank our
1:44:47
executive producer an associate
1:44:48
executive producers for Episode one two
1:44:50
four four of the best podcast in the
1:44:54
universe so we have right off the bat we
1:44:58
got and right on time is her anonymous
1:45:01
of Dogpatch and louis LeBeau via he's
1:45:04
banging me with this new coded number
1:45:06
one zero nine four now what was the
1:45:10
previous number was it was one three
1:45:13
something there was one zero three
1:45:15
something wasn't that no I think it was
1:45:17
one three something we'll never figure
1:45:18
this out no this probably has to all be
1:45:21
written down and then you have to use a
1:45:23
little decipher a decoder ring I'm
1:45:31
always excited about this hieronymus of
1:45:33
dog patches notes oh I'm sure he sent
1:45:35
one with this yes good yes she did
1:45:41
those are long but always entertaining
1:45:45
thank you for the thank you to the many
1:45:47
producers for their in the invaluable
1:45:50
and varied support of the show the
1:45:53
resources remain incredible Oh although
1:45:56
the repair of the bingette dot io search
1:46:01
capacity would be useful to listeners
1:46:03
like me yes I have an update several
1:46:07
thank you very much several dudes named
1:46:09
Ben have presented themselves regarding
1:46:13
the bingette i/o broken Search Search
1:46:15
any show notes comm which is just it's
1:46:18
gone now it's being redirected and so
1:46:21
multiple people are working on it
1:46:23
they're aware and I just said look
1:46:25
here's what it did it's a search engine
1:46:27
here's all the data it doesn't matter I
1:46:30
don't care if we have competing search
1:46:31
engines that could in some ways could be
1:46:33
even better but let's get something
1:46:37
going so hopefully someone will come up
1:46:39
with something soon if you look at in a
1:46:42
show notes comm it's obvious we have
1:46:44
structured data anyone who's done some
1:46:47
search engine database work should be
1:46:49
able to figure it out and so it's coming
1:46:51
up so animus he continues he says truth
1:46:55
truth truth from lack of advertising
1:46:58
conserve
1:46:59
and thrive by donating angelic Knight's
1:47:04
steed Marlborough took his owner into
1:47:09
the sunset none of us gets out of this
1:47:12
alive but those with faith have
1:47:14
something to look forward to at the next
1:47:17
level without doubt his chosen Knightly
1:47:21
name fits his next level hmm
1:47:25
during a reason for our conference call