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July 9th, 2020 • 3h 22m

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what a Sunday Adam Curry is no agenda
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[Music]
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and from northern Silicon Valley where
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everybody's wearing a mask and
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everybody's going to work it looks like
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it to me I'm Jesse - Bryce well you guys
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are lucky the traffic jams are what
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they've been historically oh yeah no
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it's I think everything's just kind of
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open but you guys don't have what's
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going on here oh yeah we do we got a
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governor thinks we do is he's trying to
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keep up with the Joneses oh man well we
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have a we have a mayor and city council
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you remember I told you on Sunday that
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they were you know it was Sunday of the
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day before they were considering either
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everybody mandatory masks which happened
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on show day or a 35 day lockdown and
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then a lessons-learned
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program if they remember lessons learned
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this is lessons learned well today since
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of course our cases case cases have gone
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up so significantly to be discussed in a
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moment today city councilors meeting and
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all is on the table
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I think we're going for another lockdown
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35 days here's the latest from this
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morning okay the Austin City Council
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will consider some bold action to slow
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the spread of co19 it's going to be a
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tough sell Fred can do is live at City
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Hall now Fred Austin's business
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community will have to be on board to
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make this happen yeah and before
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coronavirus came along a lot of people
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by the way this guy
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yes mascot the end of the report clearly
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someone went dude take off the mask your
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knee will have to be on board to make
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this happen yeah and before coronavirus
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came along a lot of people just said
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more crazy stuff from the Austin City
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Council and I have to point out he's
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standing at night in the middle of an
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empty square right in front of City Hall
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which is a big you know a big square and
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there's no one there and he's standing
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there by himself with his mask on
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sounding like a thing down this or on
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the virus on the city's color-coded
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overdressed chart we are now in the red
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area which would trigger new
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restrictions to slow the spread of the
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virus
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today council members will hear from
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experts to help them decide what to do
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next
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and they're gonna tell us whether we're
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screaming into it or not and what the
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indicated action is but it is a concern
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now that we're above 70 now at 75 we
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need to figure out what those
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trajectories are and the same experts
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will also explain a proposal to shut
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down the city voluntarily for 35 days
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mayor Adler is among those who believes
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that it'll allow the corona virus to
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subside enough that we will be able to
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reopen our schools for fall also on the
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agenda an ordinance that would declare
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businesses a nuisance if they don't take
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more action to prevent the corona 19
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spread the business requirements would
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go beyond enforcing masks use they would
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have to disinfect twice a day post
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information signs and limit groups to 10
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or less among other things the violators
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declared would be declared a nuisance
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and if they did not fulfill these
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requirements that they would face a suit
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filed by the city attorney business
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owners may not like these added
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regulations on their business but
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apparently it has support at the top do
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support at the top if we're going are
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going into shutdown I can see what is
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this what what's the top does this got
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to be the mayor what else are they
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talking about I mean what do there's a
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top business proposal so it had to
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support it to talk oh no no yes not the
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mayor's proposal it's that one guy some
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medical guy who comes on the city
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council meeting for ten minutes the last
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time he said here's your options
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everybody masks or 35 lock day lockdown
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followed by lessons learned I think
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they're too happy about giving us the
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lessons learned we're gonna get these
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fuckers hey one of our friends
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Dale he had the closest but he's closed
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his bar for good now because the bars
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had to close again
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in Texas he's done he's out of business
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half the restaurants famous and
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otherwise in San Francisco are gonna be
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going there's no way they can be so
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imagine if you got that double tap like
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we're about to witness when they close
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you down against the bars are very
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screwed but restaurants if they close
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down which is what will happen and that
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will also mean retail closes are we
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gonna get unemployment again is that an
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example what kind of you was give me one
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example of retail closing know if the
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35-day lost our an example just give me
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one days have a what a witness retail
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store how would you define just tell me
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a retail store that would be closing the
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entire mall what kind of store and I
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need a store not I'm not an area just
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give me one example one store clothing
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stores wait wait stop that makes no
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sense
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Walmart's open isn't it I know I go buy
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clothes at Walmart no no no no so why
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are they closing the other stores that
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sell the same thing walmart sells well I
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love that you play this game with me but
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obviously because they're assholes and
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the full of crap and this is and this
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can only may be this is just pure
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politics again I think there's some
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else going on though because Texas is
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being targeted and I I think we're about
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to enter phase three Republican governor
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yes oh yeah no but you're also targeting
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Florida hold on which is what's the
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commonality oh yeah no not just that
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Arizona no they're targeting states that
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quote unquote open too soon we didn't do
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it right of course we did do it right
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unfortunately with the increased testing
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and what we've gone through this many
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times why people are being tested
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retails open young people are getting
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tested people young people were even
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faking the numbers for faking their
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symptoms just to get tests because they
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want to get tested we're also I learned
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doing pool testing here specifically in
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Austin and this is how that works let's
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say we had a meet up than the meet up
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there were ten people and someone says
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oh man I don't feel so good I'm sick the
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pool testing and it's easier to do this
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at retail obviously but a meet up would
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work they test one person I mean I'm
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sorry they yes they test one person and
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if that comes out positive that all of
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those people have to be tested but
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essentially at that moment you got it
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they're counted as a positive case so
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these numbers are I mean let's get Chi
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it's beyond sketchy but what it does
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when you have this many tests and by the
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way case is not sick and of course I've
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heard of many young people who have who
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were positive and they were back on
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their feet in two days kind of like yeah
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I know it's unpopular to say it but kind
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of like the flu so what does this do is
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this shows us that the infection rate is
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much higher I don't think it's a
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question of age spreading right now the
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infection rate was already quite high
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we're testing we're finding it out which
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subsequently
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blower's the death rate
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but this is an unacceptable happiness we
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cannot be happy that the death rate has
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declined no we cannot let me ask you to
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look at these two images because we're
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about to talk about the worldview
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question to the front clip governor's
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across the country
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Supercuts it's good news that it's just
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younger people because they have a
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better survival rate that is the fallacy
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the president also points out the
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coronavirus death rate is down that's
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true for now but the death toll you
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can't celebrate it right now when you're
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seeing people heading into the hospital
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because we've seen this story before in
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some ways it never really ended in a lot
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of ways it is worse than ever and of
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course as we see other people infected
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and going onto the ice used it spreads
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to older populations that death rate
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will change these people go home these
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people infect their parents and their
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grandparents those people get sick they
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end up in the ICU and they either die or
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they take it from somebody else that
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could have used it has become more
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dangerous it can infect more people it's
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more easily they're able to take root
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into communities so it's changing in a
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worse way this is going to be
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catastrophe about catastrophe just to
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say hey look at the death rate now is
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extremely superficial does the US need
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another stay at home order if the virus
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continues to rage like this we have no
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choice the White House and their
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calculation this is about trying to
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instill a sense of normalcy then and we
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all know that life can't really feel
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like it's back to normal I mean it can't
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feel Americans can't feel that they have
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the virus under control we absolutely
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zero chance and by zero chance I mean
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zero zer a movie with Donald Trump in
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that job
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all these Flores infractions and dr.
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Falchi again is doing what he's been
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doing from the beginning he's been
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telling you the truth and you haven't
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want to hear it so whatever is going on
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the the fact that less people that the
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mortality rate is so low is not being
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celebrated on the mainstream let me just
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give you some statistics in 1918 we had
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the Spanish flu the world population
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then was a little under I think it was
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lunch under million people that we
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counted at the time so the Spanish flu
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took out 15 it was a billion was no no
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I'm sorry the no the world population
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was a billion I'm sorry a billion a
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hundred and ten year I think that's
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about right but a billion the Spanish
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flu killed 50 million people which of
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course was a tragic event according to
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the experts
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that is a 5.26 percent of the world's
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population died during the Spanish flu
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five percent more than five percent in
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2018 the world population was then 7.5
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billion the seasonal flu killed 650,000
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people flu killed 650 thousand people
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worldwide that is 0.009 percent of the
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world population and the experts of
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course say that's a typical year kovat
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nineteen world population up little
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seven point seven billion counting to
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date five hundred thousand dead that is
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0.06 percent of the world population the
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experts tell us this is no good
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especially not with Donald Trump in the
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Oval Office this is this insane but okay
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part of the clip okay by the way I think
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might be true thank you
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and this at this point is purely
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political so you already you already
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noticed that what states have the surge
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it's the not just Republican governors
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but it's all
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those that opened up early and screwed
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it up clearly although there's no
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mortality rate evidence for that and if
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you look at the hospitalization rate we
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are at 40 percent I'm sorry we are at 80
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percent of the 40 percent beds that have
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made have been made available and if you
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do the math and and you needed to
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actually bring in a whole bunch of kovat
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19 sufferers we're pretty much right now
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at 30 percent of our available ICU beds
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but because they say we are they cordon
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off and say well of the 4500 we only
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have 1500 available oh my god world 80%
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90% we're all gonna die they can just
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easily shift those beds around so this
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is clearly political and the reason for
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it is the vaccine we're getting ready
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for the vaccine and it's going to be
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deployed in Texas of course Austin is
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not really the hotbed it's Houston and
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this is a public service announcement
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running on KHOU 11 Houston now played a
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major role in the effort to come up with
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a vaccine for the corona virus at
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Houston a research firm has been
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selected to conduct vaccine trials
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here's Ron Trevino the researchers at
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the Texas center for drug development
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and diem clinical research have not
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received any potential corona virus
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vaccines just yet but they will be
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arriving soon then they can start
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clinical trials in the big push to get a
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vaccine to help end the pandemic but
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they need volunteers you have to be at
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least 18 years old and they want a
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diverse pool of people in this trial in
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order for trials to be shown to be
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effective and safe in all populations
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all different types of people all
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genders and races need to participate
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Houston's diversity is one of the
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reasons the clinical trials are being
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held here researchers say the potential
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vaccines have already passed phase one
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and testing and they say they are safe
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if you want to volunteer go to Houston
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fights Kovac com2 apply back to you Bucs
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you thank you very much this mansion
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Hall did they go through the whole
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checklist notice there's you have to be
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18 or older it could be any gender any
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race in you have to have it and the last
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one is you have to very low IQ this tack
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list this package I went to that website
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of course Houston fights kovat the
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packaged use the entire b-roll was video
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from what's on that website so this is
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this is not like a news story this is
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pushed in there hey we need people the
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test please do a piece and point them to
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our website they have a video there what
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explains which will happen I just cut it
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down to a minute so you can kind of get
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the idea
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part of sorry I'm just saying did they
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did they mention how much money they're
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gonna pay all this information for you
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yes you're part of the Houston five scho
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bid movement by volunteering to
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participate in the kovat vaccine trials
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those who qualify will schedule an
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appointment to come to one of our two
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clinic facilities in the Greater Houston
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area Center for drug development we are
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here to make your experience as safe and
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efficient as possible the experience is
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much like a visit to your general
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practitioner we ask you wear a mask upon
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arrival and as you enter our lobby the
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receptionist will greet you as you check
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in your temperature and prepare for your
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appointment
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our clinic follows a strict
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sterilization process before the vaccine
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that's part of the program while
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investigational the vaccines have been
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approved by the FDA for Phase two or
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three trials which means that they have
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gone through earlier rounds of human
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trials where the safety data is
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available
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after the vaccine is administered
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participants will be carefully monitored
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by our doctors and staff for at least 30
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minutes to ensure their safe departure
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by participating in this study you could
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help end this current pandemic and
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prevent future occurrences this is your
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opportunity to contribute to the process
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of helping us sea life in Houston return
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to normal again
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join the fight at Houston fights Koba
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comm girl puts a smile on you oh yeah
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very very happy so the way it well let's
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let's just step back for one second you
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identified that the targeting all the
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messaging about the testing about the
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death about the destruction about the
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second wave third wave opening up too
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soon dumb Republicans was targeted at
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young people and this is not a
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coincidence of course they're targeting
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young people and this is meant to bring
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out young people listen to this you'll
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get a minimum depending on the length of
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the trial a minimum of $1,000 and you
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get to go anywhere you want
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you have the cloak so because they need
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you to be exposed exposed to see if it
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works and I think we're moving into act
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three of this way that is a very
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tempting offer even the $1,000 but
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forget that I can go any I don't you may
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not even have to wear a mask well you
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could also become a member of the media
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and then go anywhere you want to but
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that's another so act 3 is upon us we're
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about to go into into the testing into
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the in the wild we're talking 30,000
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people a month and it's no coincidence
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that there's a new actor on the scene
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and I'm and I identified this act while
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he's bursting on the sting and seeing
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he's being introduced a big PR blitz it
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started this weekend when I saw New York
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Magazine in the headline anthony foul
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his boss
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why things could be much better soon and
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this is a new guy dr. Francis Collins
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sounds kind of almost like a Anthony
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Fauci Francis Collins they go together
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like peanut butter and jelly I have
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highlighted a few parts from this
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interview this piece about him one of
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the few Obama appointees still serving
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in a major role in the Trump
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administration Collins who rose to
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prominence in the 1990s as leader of the
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human genome project this is no slouch
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this is the guy who led the human genome
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project and the decoding of the our DNA
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he is the head of the National
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Institutes of Health the federal
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government's gargantuan hub for medical
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research with an annual budget of 42
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billion dollars the NIH is essentially
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unrivaled in the world as a research
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center among its 20,000 employees is dr.
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Anthony Fauci who runs the division
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focused on infectious diseases thought
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she was a mentor to Collins when the
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latter joined the NIH decades ago and
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they remain close talking at length on
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the phone most evenings now they
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highlight here that dr. Collins just
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recently won the $1,000,000 Templeton
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prize from the John Templeton Foundation
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which by the way give this very good
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doctor approximately two hundred to
20:14
three hundred thousand dollars per year
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to his foundation already they've been
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doing that since 2007 so they've been
20:21
feeding this guy money he has a little
20:23
foundation on the side called biological
20:27
so the guy that has been receiving grant
20:30
money from this foundation now also was
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elevated to the Templeton Prize the
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Templeton Prize I might add he's not for
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douchebags sister Teresa was the first
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recipient other recipients include
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Desmond Bishop Desmond Tutu so now this
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guy is in here he's obviously important
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here's a one code from him and this is
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how I come up with Phase three
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he says until we have a vaccine that can
20:57
be widely applied and provide immunity
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most of our country is still at risk
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this is not a time to relax there are at
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least four vaccines that we'll be
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getting into such large trials this
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summer beginning as early as July each
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one of those trials will involve roughly
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30,000 volunteers who get paid half of
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whom will get the vaccine half of whom
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will get a dummy placebo now I have a
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problem with that sentence isn't it just
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a placebo what is a dummy placebo does
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that mean it's a placebo that's not
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really a placebo your your observation
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is absolutely correct the placebos of
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placebo there's no such thing as a dummy
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placebo that's messaging and I don't
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know what it's about but I think there's
21:43
something there's just calling somebody
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a dummy now check this out
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those trials will have to be conducted
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in areas where the virus is actively
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spreading because that's the only way
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you're going to know whether it was
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protective hello red states that have
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been over tested opened up too soon and
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you are that's what's going on here and
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this guy is out to get PR he's out to to
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show himself to the world he showed up
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on NPR he need a little bit of exposure
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well what's the best way to do that talk
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about some some social justice issues
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NPR is always gonna highlight you for
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that it is time to end the tradition in
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science of all male speaking panels
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that's the word from Francis Collins and
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he should know Collins is the head of
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the National Institutes of Health people
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at the human genome project and he has
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been to a lot of all-male panels or
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pointed aside in previous shows NPR's
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turned out to be the worst of the group
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they're worse than CNN at this point
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honestly I didn't even hear that
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national
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this first time I played it the second
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time I clipped I didn't hear them that's
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a great one ball mail panels or Mantle's
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seriously it's so common there are
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multiple nicknames for the practice
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including man Frances and compose eum's
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man Frances and what was the other one
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impose eum's impose iums as imposing
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imposed hymns and what was the other one
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I've missed at first the second one man
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you might mom hold on I think was man
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Frances hold on man for instance now and
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then attempt to break down that
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tradition he is vowing not to speak on
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panels that do not fairly consider
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scientists of all backgrounds nice to be
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with you audience so you've been in this
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business a long time what do you think
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has prevented women or diversity in
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general from these panels I'd like to
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think that there's not an intentional
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bias going on but there certainly seems
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to be an implicit bias when people are
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setting up workshops or panels or
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symposia they kind of pick out oh I know
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this person and I know that person and
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all too often the people they're
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thinking of are the men and then you end
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up coming to one of these events and
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being embarrassed to be part of
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something when we have a wonderfully
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diverse scientific workforce and it
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doesn't seem to be getting represented
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and I just decided that's already not
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good I'm sorry guys making me sick
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already
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Oh like the racist thing you know you go
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to these things I've been on many of
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these and he's in tech and there's women
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sometimes there's not and there's
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nothing you know this is the last thing
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you're aware of your you're going to
24:51
these things you're not thinking about
24:53
this you're thinking about what you're
24:55
gonna be saying and what kind of person
24:57
is gonna be leading the thing is they
24:58
gonna ask good questions are you gonna
24:59
be annoyed I mean this this guy's full
25:02
of crap this is nonsense oh you have no
25:05
you have no idea how dangerous this guy
25:08
is you have no idea but I'm going to try
25:10
and show it to you back to this article
25:12
in New York magazine he's laying out
25:15
he's justifying how the testing is going
25:18
to work so we have four trials starting
25:20
individual
25:20
thirty thirty thousand people per trial
25:23
half of which are dummies as he says
25:25
himself and he goes on to explain that
25:30
this is a huge investment and it's
25:33
prepaid this is prepaid through Gavi
25:35
prepaid through active which is this
25:38
cartel of the National Institute the NIH
25:40
and the eighteen pharmaceuticals he says
25:45
this is an investment in manufacturing
25:46
tens of millions of doses of these
25:48
vaccines even before we know if they're
25:50
going to work to prevent long delay at
25:53
the end because it would be really sad
25:55
if we were celebrating in December
25:56
saying hey we've got a vaccine that
25:58
works and then there were no doses left
26:00
to offer to people who need it so that
26:02
has to wait what here comes so that has
26:05
to be planned for even if it means
26:07
throwing out the doses of the vaccines
26:09
that failed we're prepared to do that I
26:12
want you to remember that he said this
26:14
and then he goes into just some basics
26:19
about the vaccine but this guy is very
26:22
very interesting he wrote a book in 2007
26:25
called the language of God
26:27
a scientist presents evidence for belief
26:31
before he went to the NIH he started the
26:35
foundation by a logos which makes the
26:38
case for a harmony between science and
26:40
Christianity this guy is he went into
26:45
med school by his own admission went
26:47
into med school a complete atheist came
26:50
out an evangelical Christian and so take
26:56
into account the Human Genome Project he
26:58
led that he is the guy that is
27:00
attempting to meld science and religion
27:04
and I have a very short clip of one of
27:06
his speeches just to give you an idea
27:07
what you're going to see is a slide with
27:10
two pictures on it and they both look
27:13
like they're a stained glass window in a
27:15
church round you know kind of with the
27:17
spikes you know what it's like a round a
27:20
round stained glass Church window and
27:22
this is just the beginning let me ask
27:24
you to look at these two images because
27:26
we're about to talk about the worldview
27:29
question
27:30
I think this is a provocative way to
27:33
begin to think about that because what
27:34
you see are two images that look
27:36
somewhat similar to each other but they
27:38
stand in for somewhat different
27:40
worldview perspectives this being of
27:43
course a beautiful stained-glass window
27:45
the Rose window in Westminster Cathedral
27:47
and this is an unusual view of DNA not
27:52
looking at it from the side but looking
27:54
down the long axis of DNA so you see
27:56
that radial pattern and the question
27:59
that many people pose and which I pose
28:01
to you tonight is okay those are two
28:05
worldviews the scientific and the
28:07
spiritual do you have to choose do you
28:10
have to basically throw in your lot with
28:13
one or the other and neglect the other
28:14
one or is there a possibility here of
28:17
being someone who could merge these two
28:19
not necessarily building a firewall
28:22
between them but actually having both of
28:24
those perspectives within your own
28:27
experience I think many people today are
28:30
arguing that these worldviews are at war
28:33
and that there is no way to reconcile
28:36
them that has not been my experience now
28:39
mind you this guy is the DNA expert he's
28:43
clearly trying to bring along Catholics
28:47
and Christians evangelicals into the
28:49
scientific realm so I guess he's still
28:53
very he's a believer but we'll find out
28:58
but what is the main vaccine that is
29:01
being attempted is the mRNA which is a
29:05
DNA altering vaccine it's not really a
29:08
vaccine in the traditional sense so this
29:10
is the guy who clearly has been driving
29:13
this if only for the fact that he was
29:15
behind the Human Genome Project and I'm
29:17
reading this article I finish it up I
29:20
might I go to to search for him and what
29:25
pops up top link is at that very moment
29:28
alive
29:30
zoom between this guy francis collins
29:33
and anthony Fouts she completely
29:35
unsupervised just the two of them
29:38
and you know they've been friends for 27
29:40
years so there he's yucking it up
29:42
they're getting boners over saying
29:44
things I had to clip this it is unreal
29:48
how these guys just layout the entire
29:51
strategy for act 3 and we'll start with
29:54
obviously letting everybody know red
29:57
states suck we were averaging about
30:00
20,000 new cases a day and then a series
30:04
of circumstances associated with various
30:07
states and cities trying to open up in
30:09
the sense of getting back to some form
30:12
of normality has led to a situation
30:14
where we now have record-breaking cases
30:18
two days ago it was at fifty seven
30:20
thousand five hundred so within a period
30:23
of a week and a half
30:24
remember people cases just tested just
30:27
tested positive more testing he's making
30:30
it sound like the world is coming to an
30:31
end we've almost doubled the number of
30:34
cases so in answer to your first
30:36
question we are still knee-deep in the
30:39
first wave of this and I would say this
30:42
would not be considered a wave it was a
30:45
surge or a resurgence of infections
30:48
superimposed upon a baseline Francis
30:51
that really never got Francis's wanted
30:54
ago if you look at them at the graphs
30:56
from Europe Europe the European Union as
30:59
an entity it went up and then came down
31:02
to baseline now they're having little
31:04
blips as you might expect as they try to
31:07
reopen
31:07
we went up never came down to baseline
31:10
and now is surging back up so it's a
31:13
serious situation that we have to
31:15
address immediately okay
31:18
bullcrap even Burks showed yesterday in
31:20
the briefing the testing it's almost
31:23
like looking at co2 and global warming
31:26
let's stop for one second and kind of
31:30
remember those Bakersfield doctors that
31:32
were yes banned from YouTube
31:34
they had predicted all this and they
31:36
said there's a detect the testing goes
31:38
flying up the cases go flying up and the
31:41
deaths start going down and that's
31:43
because this is the ending and I put
31:46
three charts in the last newsletter yep
31:48
same thing showing that the cases were
31:51
going up but but
31:52
testing was skyrocketing and but the
31:55
deaths were going down is that and this
31:57
if you just looked at the deaths and
31:59
just look at that chart alone I don't
32:01
know if the cases you don't look at the
32:02
testing you'd say this thing is good is
32:04
going away and you didn't hear foul to
32:07
your Carlin's even mention the death
32:09
rate nothing at all no because they
32:11
they're unveiling a strategy for phase 3
32:14
this is act 3 this is the vaccine stage
32:17
and let's make sure that we know that we
32:21
are communicating to the right group
32:22
remember we have to get the young people
32:24
it is the case now that a lot of those
32:26
new cases are younger people yeah you
32:29
can you can hear the script I mean the
32:31
guy knows this and he's pretending to
32:33
ask his underling foul Chi they're
32:39
rolling out a script and they are so bad
32:41
at it let's I want to go busy so you
32:48
stumped this was a zoom thing that was
32:51
open so people could watch it was live
32:53
on YouTube it was located screams he's
32:57
alive on YouTube that was have been
33:00
you're supposed to be a big dummy not
33:02
realizing that this is scripted you
33:05
laugh your ass off how scripted this is
33:07
so it's scripted for it they're putting
33:10
on a play for their anyone who wants to
33:14
listen in and so you feel like oh I'm in
33:16
on this I got no I understand that cuz I
33:18
I listen to these two people talk to
33:20
each other when in fact this is a scam
33:24
scam in the sense that they're making
33:26
money on the spot but it's but but this
33:28
is a scripted yes presentation to sucker
33:33
you and to think in a certain way
33:34
exactly yeah and and it was it was an
33:38
NIH USA Today livestream
33:42
I said zoom just to make it clear you
33:44
had two boxes USA Today is a problem
33:47
yeah very popular people look at USA
33:51
Today and so I'm sure they tuned into
33:53
this
33:53
so again of the USA Today stuff later
33:55
let's roll out the script of hey Anthony
33:58
isn't it young people it is the case
34:01
isn't it now that a lot of those new
34:03
cases
34:04
our younger people yeah been willing to
34:08
go to places like bars which are not a
34:11
good place to be if you don't want to
34:12
catch this some people are saying well
34:14
we'd have to worry so much cuz young
34:16
people don't usually get that sick by
34:18
the way saying catch this is I think
34:20
this is racist you're only supposed to
34:21
talk about you spreading it but the
34:23
society problem well there's a big
34:26
problem with that Francis first Brandi
34:28
right the average age of people getting
34:31
infected now is a decade and a half
34:33
younger than what it was a few months
34:35
ago particularly when New York and New
34:37
Orleans because they were out protesting
34:40
or because there's more testing I don't
34:42
know this is the best of Hope scheme
34:44
about these always younger now that's
34:46
why it's different it would change what
34:48
exactly changed and by the way Adam how
34:52
often do I call you Adam when I'm
34:53
talking to you well John that in fact is
34:56
one of the things John that you hate the
34:58
most you don't even like it when I say
34:59
hey John you are correct thank you very
35:05
much John ago we're getting hit very
35:07
badly that's the first thing the second
35:10
thing that we're trying to get the
35:11
messaging across the young people should
35:14
not feel that they're invulnerable
35:15
excuse me when someone says we're trying
35:18
to get the messaging across was a bad
35:26
scriptwriter there that's not just just
35:29
the beginning there listen there
35:31
unsupervised there ad libbing
35:33
freewheeling their own deal hey Tony
35:36
we've done this for 27 years we can do
35:38
it again yeah we could pull off hey
35:39
let's do it on that newfangled thing
35:40
yeah let's do a stream okay
35:42
if you see the video kee Collins is in a
35:46
very impressive office with lots of
35:49
books messy pouchy he's sitting in this
35:52
pristine kind of space and there's a
35:54
there's some kind of artwork that is
35:57
behind him and it's sticking out of his
35:59
head but it it's almost exactly as wide
36:01
as it head it looks like he has a pope
36:04
hat on it's very Illuminati as kind of
36:08
symbolism I don't know if that was
36:10
intentional but it's odd to look at that
36:12
we continue oh we're getting hit very
36:14
badly that's the first thing
36:16
and think that we're trying to get the
36:18
messaging across young people should not
36:21
feel that they're invulnerable to
36:23
serious consequences the more we learned
36:25
about this disease Frances the Franzese
36:28
lies that many young people may not
36:31
necessarily get sick enough to go to the
36:32
hospital but they can get very sick put
36:35
them out of action for weeks at a time
36:37
this is the messaging the other thing is
36:40
they should not think that even if they
36:43
get infected and they have no symptoms
36:45
at all that they are in a vacuum they're
36:48
not because by getting infected they are
36:51
propagating the outbreak because
36:53
inadvertently or innocently they could
36:56
infect someone who'd infect someone and
36:59
then all of a sudden someone's
37:01
grandmother grandfather or aunt who's
37:03
getting chemotherapy for breast cancer
37:05
gets infected I could infect someone who
37:10
affects someone else who goes home
37:12
infects someone of then infects the
37:13
grandmother who is under chemotherapy
37:15
for breast cancer and she dies Thank You
37:19
Anthony
37:20
so although you think you're isolated in
37:23
a vacuum you're not you're part of the
37:26
propagation of the pandemic so it's your
37:28
responsibility to yourself as well as to
37:32
society to avoid infection shame that's
37:35
the message I know it's difficult to get
37:37
out to young people but they really need
37:39
to understand that yeah I saw the
37:41
Surgeon General's public service
37:43
announcement which is a good way to say
37:45
this which is put on your mask and then
37:47
kovin stops with you and if we all can
37:50
think about that it's up to us each of
37:53
us to stop this pandemic it's not some
37:55
decisions going to be made the
37:56
governance pension it's about us
37:58
deciding that this is our responsibility
38:03
okay so your acting classes are do not
38:08
really hurt it's fantastic okay now
38:11
you're right you thought that was bad
38:13
acting wait for this one well let's talk
38:16
about vaccines the world is abuzz Tony
38:22
let's talk about vaccines
38:24
the world is abuzz about the vaccines
38:26
girlfriend this is just a Raja Oz well
38:29
let's talk about vaccines the world is
38:30
abuzz Maxie this guy runs a 42 billion
38:35
dollar health budget everybody's abuzz
38:38
about vaccines Tony well let's talk
38:40
about vaccines the world is abuzz about
38:42
vaccines does the way in which we might
38:44
ultimately get past this and have a
38:47
chance to go back to something
38:48
approaching normal life where we can all
38:51
be back together again because this risk
38:53
won't be so high where are we
38:55
Tony with the vaccine efforts that have
38:57
been moving forward at unprecedented
38:59
speed hey Tony where are we with the
39:04
vaccine efforts that have been moving
39:07
forward at unprecedented speed but of
39:09
course they were full of Scientologists
39:13
yeah I think the first thing Wow did you
39:16
hear that that was Tony foutch he's
39:17
throat wheezing it was some that
39:19
challenges inhaling sound very healthy
39:30
himself yeah the first thing people need
39:36
to understand but although time tables
39:39
are given well are you dealing with
39:40
there the vaccine the area there's never
39:43
a guarantee that your candidate will be
39:45
both safe and effective so there's
39:48
always the big question mark however
39:50
assuming that there will be one and may
39:53
be more safe and effective vaccines
39:55
here's where we are with the time line
39:58
okay there are multiple candidates using
40:00
different platforms several of which the
40:03
United States government and the NIH
40:05
itself we are involved in helping to
40:08
facilitate the development either
40:11
directly or indirectly with our sites if
40:14
things go the way isn't he
40:18
the head of the NIH what the head of the
40:23
NIH should well no I mean be very
40:27
familiar with
40:28
yes but they divvied up the script in
40:32
fact do you recall
40:33
well I reminded you or I asked you to
40:36
keep something in mind when I was
40:38
reading from the article I'll just give
40:39
to the next clip we are now working with
40:41
the companies Bauder by their investment
40:44
to start making dosas before we even
40:47
know whether it works or not get ready
40:49
so that when we get to the winter in the
40:51
early part of 2021 we will start to have
40:55
a large number of doses that people will
40:58
be able to use if it turns out to be
41:01
safe and effective the big if so does
41:04
that mean if one of those vaccines
41:06
doesn't turn out to be safe and
41:08
effective you just have to throw out all
41:10
of those doses that were made because
41:12
they've wanted to be ready but it isn't
41:14
always going to work he's asking this
41:18
question Toni does that mean that we
41:21
have to throw out the vaccine that
41:23
doesn't work doesn't this guy shouldn't
41:26
this guy know the answer to this
41:28
question well he knew it in his events
41:30
the play he knew it and his interview
41:32
over the weekend he said literally we
41:34
have Paul right that's what I asked you
41:36
to remember I know I got me on that one
41:39
yes he already said that but now he's
41:42
playing dumb let's listen to that dumb
41:44
part again the big if so does that mean
41:47
if one of those vaccines doesn't turn
41:50
out to be safe and effective you just
41:51
have to throw out all those doses that
41:54
were made how can this be I wish I knew
41:56
I don't run or forty six billion dollar
41:58
budgets if wanted to be ready but it
42:01
isn't always gonna work oh well stop for
42:05
one second this is one of the little
42:08
things that probably hurt me the most
42:11
and I you see with broadcasters too
42:15
somebody knows something knows the
42:17
answer they know the answer and instead
42:20
of posing the question as if they know
42:23
the answer which you can do and get away
42:25
with you can say well as we know or so
42:29
you know if you input you can couch
42:30
see it's the Late Show pre-interview
42:33
question so I heard that you had a
42:35
really interesting experience
42:38
last week at Disneyland which of course
42:41
is a known story that's the worst case
42:43
yes exactly but I have run into people
42:47
that are that do tech for example and
42:51
they're very knowledgeable about
42:52
something but they feel obliged to act
42:55
completely stupid about something so to
42:58
ask because they can't ask the question
43:00
any other way they don't know how to do
43:02
it I guess but to hear somebody that at
43:06
this level running the NIH acting stupid
43:10
with questions that he knows the answer
43:13
to it's a humiliation this guy should go
43:16
they should get rid of him this guy is
43:18
only just breaking on to the scene we're
43:20
gonna see a lot of him foul she can't do
43:22
the vaccines foul she is too tainted
43:24
he's the wrong guy for the vaccine this
43:27
is the guy that's bringing in the
43:28
vaccine that's why he's in the magazine
43:30
that's wise on NPR that's why they did
43:32
this little script and I will say as a
43:35
little aside if you look at revelations
43:38
and you look at the Antichrist where
43:40
revelation says the Antichrist will come
43:42
he will look just like you there's a
43:44
significant portion of our Christian
43:48
religious believer and believing
43:50
producers who think this guy will be an
43:53
excellent candidate for the Antichrist
43:54
because you agree with them he's good
43:57
for example just what you played there
44:00
this is for a very evangelical Christian
44:04
this is basically blatant lying
44:07
oh yeah he's handling this he is a he is
44:11
a liar this guy oh yeah oh yeah well
44:14
he's lying here pretending he's
44:15
certainly being not being sincere
44:16
pretending he doesn't know about how
44:20
anyway so I'll skip paths rest that clip
44:22
we we got out of what we needed the end
44:24
of it they just say hey this will be
44:26
just as safe as any other vaccine which
44:28
I thought was kind of funny but now now
44:30
now now now we need to go after the
44:33
people here to sign people up we need we
44:34
need to get people we need to get people
44:35
to take this test we are determined that
44:37
these have to be young people young
44:38
people got a message to the young people
44:40
here's the messaging I want to get out
44:41
now let's get this going we
44:43
to get people to sign up for the trials
44:45
and it will be important to encourage
44:49
people to enroll so people are watching
44:51
this right now my intention in two or
44:55
three weeks to announcements that there
44:57
might be a vaccine trial enrollment
44:59
somewhere in your neighborhood like we
45:01
just heard in Houston because we will
45:03
depend on the public to sign up and help
45:06
us figure this out let's be clear these
45:09
vaccines have already gone through phase
45:12
one and Phase two trials so we know that
45:14
they've been safe significant number of
45:16
individuals and we know that they seem
45:18
to be capable of raising antibodies but
45:20
we haven't actually done the real
45:21
testing in the field that it's going to
45:24
be in the so-called Phase three trials
45:26
but particularly Toni it seems to me
45:29
because this disease cope at 19
45:31
best hit particular group I mean even
45:33
that you know John it seems kind of to
45:38
me like hey John in particular it's so
45:41
contrived to so contrived gonna be in
45:44
this so-called Phase three trials but
45:47
particularly Toni it seems to me because
45:49
this disease Kovac 19 has hit particular
45:53
groups really hard I'm talking about
45:55
older people people with chronic disease
45:58
african-americans Latinos we want to be
46:01
sure old old man it's not Latinos bro
46:05
but we'll let you slide before people
46:07
with chronic disease african-americans
46:10
Latinos we want to be sure that the
46:12
vaccine enrollment includes those folks
46:15
as well are there ways based on past
46:18
experience where we are sure that
46:20
outreach will work and we will get
46:22
people to sign up for those groups do we
46:24
have the messaging right Tony
46:26
well done Thank You Francis what was dr.
46:30
Collins was referring back to you
46:32
Francis leading me into the end for what
46:35
thank you even thank you very much never
46:37
even says you're leading me here
46:39
oops well done Thank You Francis what
46:43
what dr. Collins was referring to
46:45
leading me into the answer to the
46:47
question was that
46:54
but why are they laughing it's not
46:57
because of the question its he's
46:58
laughing
46:59
I believe this guy is secretly loving
47:01
the answer this is something that we've
47:05
done with all our HIV trials there is an
47:08
analogy here when you're dealing with
47:11
HIV there's a disparity of why the hell
47:14
is he laughing about this so they're
47:17
talking about are we reaching the right
47:18
people
47:19
he says you're leading me right into the
47:21
answer they crack up laughing because
47:28
thank you Francis with what dr. Collins
47:31
was referring to leading me into the
47:33
answer to the question this is something
47:40
that we've done with all our HIV trials
47:43
there is an analogy here when you're
47:45
dealing with HIV there's a disparity of
47:48
susceptibility of involvement 13% of the
47:52
American population is African American
47:54
and 45 to 50 percent of the new
47:57
infections so whenever we do treatment
47:59
and prevention trials through our
48:01
networks we outreach through community
48:04
representatives and community outreach
48:06
we're going to use that same model to do
48:10
the same thing for the african-american
48:11
latina and Native American populations
48:14
in fact Francis and I right now are very
48:17
heavily involved in making sure that the
48:20
trials are quite well representative by
48:24
the individuals who are most susceptible
48:26
not only to infection because of certain
48:29
circumstances in their life but also
48:31
because of the fact that they are more
48:33
prone to complications because of
48:36
underlying comorbidities it's a major
48:39
goal of the trial to be properly
48:41
represented and that's what we're gonna
48:43
make certainly high priority so here's
48:46
what I heard yes just like remember how
48:51
much fun we had trying to find the gays
48:53
to take them to take the tough now we
48:57
gotta get black people
49:00
can't wait to try that's what I'm
49:06
hearing and I'm not kidding you man I'm
49:10
not gonna argue the point they are evil
49:13
and will this thing even work coming
49:15
back to the vaccines I keep yes Tony ok
49:18
so suppose this all looks really good
49:20
and you have a vaccine that's safe and
49:22
effective and we start immunizing people
49:25
how long will that protection last when
49:28
you glass are you gonna need to take it
49:31
again uh-huh you're like I mean like the
49:34
flu where you have to have a shot every
49:36
year or where you get a booster now what
49:38
do you think Wow we hadn't discussed
49:40
this at all in many meetings before we
49:42
went out and spent hundreds of millions
49:44
or maybe billions of dollars pre funding
49:46
vaccines we might have to throw away
49:48
water you think about well this is
49:51
Francis a great question and it's the
49:53
reason why we have to be it's not a
50:01
great question it's not a great question
50:03
by any means this is Francis a great
50:06
question and it's the reason why we have
50:08
to be humble about what we do we do not
50:10
know the answer to that we do not know I
50:13
mean you can assume that you're gonna
50:15
get protection at least to take us
50:17
through this cycle when you look at
50:19
natural infection it's anyway between
50:20
six months to a year however with this
50:24
spike protein that's being presented in
50:26
the way that we do it with primes and in
50:28
some cases boosts we're going to assume
50:31
that there's a degree of protection but
50:33
we have to assume that it's gonna be
50:34
finite it's not gonna be like a measles
50:37
vaccine how does an mRNA vaccine which
50:41
is intended not to have your body
50:43
produce immunity against future
50:46
infection from this dead end host you're
50:48
dead and the virus you receive but it is
50:51
intended to change your actual DNA why
50:55
in god's name would you need a boost or
50:57
a booster for that it just doesn't make
51:01
it well even if it was let's just assume
51:03
yeah let's
51:04
that's a mm-hmm B if it's a normal
51:07
disease I mean the reason you're gonna
51:10
have to have a flu shot every year cuz
51:12
the flu change
51:13
every year right so is this thing gonna
51:15
change every year oh wait it already
51:17
changed once from the phony-baloney
51:19
czars which disappeared magically what
51:23
where did that ever go no one ever talks
51:25
about the disappearance of cold one
51:29
SARS no that came and went and it which
51:32
was deadlier diverse now we have this
51:35
this is a this is a blab created product
51:39
that will just naturally go away and
51:42
they're just trying to get these
51:43
vaccines out it manufacture tons of the
51:46
vaccines as fast as they can and they
51:49
already made their money it's pre-cancer
51:50
they want to get their money out of this
51:52
thing and they got to do it before this
51:53
thing completely disappears as is shown
51:55
by the death chart which is falling off
51:58
the cliff final two clips they're short
52:02
so we're signing off now and then
52:06
Collins pulls up a ball a model of the
52:14
corona virus so he has like the size of
52:16
a softball with all these spikes
52:17
sticking out of it it's green it's green
52:20
it's not purple red it's green and model
52:25
of the corona virus Tsarskoe b2 with all
52:30
those spiky proteins and that just is
52:32
the way that it likes to get inside of
52:33
your cells we are going to vanquish this
52:35
guy for a whole lot longer okay we're
52:41
gonna vanquish this guy and now to
52:44
answer your question about this guy's
52:46
religiosity listen to how he says
52:50
goodbye and you tell me if this is a man
52:52
of faith a man who fears God then hang
52:56
on because science the best science you
52:58
can imagine led by amazing people like
53:01
Tony Fauci and many others is gonna come
53:04
forward here with what we believe will
53:07
be ultimately a chance for us all to get
53:09
back to the kind of lives that we were
53:11
Lily leaving leading in 2019 and you
53:15
know what all of us in a few years will
53:18
have parties where we talk about what
53:20
did you do in 2010 agent
53:24
our grandchildren
53:26
well tell their grandchildren what they
53:28
did in 2020 we were counting the money
53:31
this is unlike anything we've faced
53:34
before but we're up to it we have
53:36
encouraged to strength of vision and the
53:38
energy to make it happen and I'm sorry
53:41
if you're a man of faith if you're a man
53:44
who went in an atheist in the mid school
53:47
came out and the evangelical Christian
53:49
and you believe in God and you've
53:52
professed this and you believe that
53:55
science has a role under God why is the
53:59
last thing you say an afterthought oh oh
54:02
yeah some hope listen again this is
54:04
unlike anything we've faced before but
54:06
we're up to it we have the courage to
54:08
strength divisions and the energy to
54:10
make it happen and the hope come on man
54:15
he would have said with God's help yes
54:17
or how about even hope he said hope you
54:20
forgot to say hope thanks Tony and the
54:29
energy to make it happen is upon us this
54:37
is the important phase I you know they
54:40
can play it any way they want shooting
54:42
everybody up with water for all we know
54:44
dummy placebo we don't know we have no
54:47
idea but by the way show title I think
54:52
you're right but how the way the way I
54:56
the way I interpret these guys and what
55:00
is happening is let's target those those
55:03
idiots the rednecks the dummies and and
55:06
of course they're not wearing masks so
55:08
we can blame them for it they didn't
55:09
open up right anyway you're not wearing
55:11
my haha they're the target you could do
55:14
this any any city in America except for
55:16
New York possible but any city in
55:18
America you could do this now you can
55:20
test more find this big group of people
55:23
and then you can set up your vaccine
55:25
trial and of course Houston is one of
55:29
the first of course it is I haven't
55:31
heard about any vaccine trials in
55:32
California which has more case
55:34
than we do we have it we have it we have
55:37
a Democrat governor leaves from such
55:40
scams
55:42
you're so lucky with that I guess so
55:48
he's a good man he wears a mask in his
55:50
he's now on Twitter he's got his picture
55:52
with a mask on ah that's because when
55:54
you're on Twitter if you don't have a
55:55
picture of the mask on you had some
55:59
covert updates around the world I want
56:01
to get them out of the way we get the
56:02
show hood report done
56:03
yeah for sure uh let's start with
56:06
there's only four of them here they're
56:08
kind of combined it with a bunch of
56:10
yours we got to remember the blast
56:11
Brazil cuz Brazil is the worst case
56:14
scenario because you got a dis ball
56:16
sanera guy taking his mask off even
56:20
though he's he's positive with the guys
56:23
he said he's a plague on socialism so
56:26
let's play covet Brazil in Brazil bars
56:29
and restaurants also reopened in parts
56:31
of the country this week despite the
56:33
second-largest corona virus outbreak in
56:35
the world behind the United States on
56:37
Friday Brazilian President John Bolton
56:39
ro vetoed parts of a law that would have
56:41
required face masks indoors when large
56:45
groups gathered Bolton ro has downplayed
56:47
the severity of the pandemic despite
56:49
increasing numbers of infections and
56:51
deaths in Latin America's largest
56:53
country yeah yeah sure to get that in
56:58
there okay let's go to uh Cove oh here's
57:01
a good one this is the kovat cases
57:02
versus deaths comparison which is I like
57:06
to wear the underplay the deaths and
57:08
here we go
57:08
nation why there were more than 57,000
57:11
new confirmed cases reported yesterday
57:12
according to Johns Hopkins University
57:14
researchers new daily cases are
57:16
increasing in 39 states with sharp
57:19
upticks in California Arizona Texas and
57:22
Mississippi according to the New York
57:23
Times data Florida reported eleven
57:26
thousand four hundred and fifty eight
57:27
new cases today a new record for daily
57:30
cases while the number of new cases is
57:32
increasing new deaths per day are
57:34
declining
57:35
experts say the numbers reflect better
57:37
treatments and the fact that younger
57:39
people who are less likely to become
57:41
severely ill account for more of the new
57:43
cases oh really
57:46
there's the memes yeah it's all in there
57:49
young people and this other thing this
57:52
little mystery I am that keeps throwing
57:54
in there and I've heard it a lot I've
57:55
seen it a lot the new improved
57:57
treatments oh yeah which means any one
58:00
of these new and improved treatments
58:01
anything except the hydroxychloroquine I
58:05
do have a new treatment hold on a second
58:08
and I have the guy here yes this is of
58:13
course a doctor from Texas he's from
58:15
West Texas finally what do we have or
58:19
five six seven eight eight eight cars
58:23
stable we're stable stable everybody's
58:25
okay safe we're stable no up no down on
58:28
this efforts extremely late well I don't
58:32
know what that means so there's a new
58:35
treatment a new cheap treatment which
58:38
means this will be the first and last
58:40
time you ever hear of this guy his name
58:42
is dr. Richard Bartlett he treats his
58:46
patients in West Texas he's been doing
58:49
that for quite a number of years and he
58:50
has a very very simple protocol which he
58:53
says is the exact same one that Taiwan
58:56
Japan and Singapore have used with
58:58
incredibly low mortality rate in all of
59:01
those countries I'm pointing them out
59:02
because the people in Texas in Texas
59:05
need to hear good news in Dallas they
59:07
need to hear good news and I have good
59:09
news I'm sure you do before I am blown
59:12
away by those numbers I gave up trying
59:14
to write them down pop but you're gonna
59:16
tell us somehow eventually where we get
59:17
to this point that in these other
59:19
countries they're doing what I'm doing
59:20
Debbie okay they're doing what I'm doing
59:23
which is not hydroxychloroquine although
59:25
that works and so what they're doing is
59:29
an inhaled steroid and so my Silver
59:32
Bullet is inhaled budesonide the brand
59:35
name originally was pulmicort now it's
59:37
generic it's super cheap it's about $200
59:40
for the total treatment if you pay cash
59:41
with insurance many of my patients are
59:44
not even having to pay for it and you
59:46
use a nebulizer machine
59:47
it's an asthma medicine that's it's a
59:50
respiratory anti-inflammatory fork ovid
59:54
which is a respiratory inflammatory
59:56
disease
59:57
and it works a hundred percent of my
59:59
patients are alive I've been treating
1:00:01
this since March and and you you use it
1:00:04
for five minutes it takes five minutes
1:00:06
to do a breathing treatment you plug it
1:00:08
in the machine and the machine in the
1:00:09
wall you put the medicine this premix
1:00:11
pre-measured from the pharmacy into the
1:00:13
little reservoir you push the on button
1:00:15
and you breathe it during five minutes
1:00:17
we don't even have to have a mask you
1:00:19
can use a little mouthpiece that you
1:00:21
hold in front of you and you breathe it
1:00:23
for five minutes and and I have let me
1:00:27
tell you what I've heard from patients
1:00:29
when I started using this they tell me I
1:00:31
feel better during the first treatment
1:00:33
and so their chest pain goes away their
1:00:36
shortness of breath goes away their
1:00:38
fever breaks so the only way that this
1:00:41
of course could work is if the president
1:00:43
comes out today and says don't listen to
1:00:45
that guy Trump came out and said that
1:00:51
you're right this would be the rage but
1:00:55
no it would be you know it's it's cheap
1:00:58
which is not a good thing they don't
1:00:59
want that no of course not
1:01:01
all right back to your world overview
1:01:04
nice nice pick up on that yeah we are
1:01:09
together we are really way too tight for
1:01:11
this market you realize that don't you
1:01:13
for the podcasting market they were too
1:01:16
tight let's go to kovat report UK this
1:01:20
pub in Cumbria in the north of England
1:01:22
has probably never been as clean but it
1:01:26
needs to be businesses in England will
1:01:28
be open for the first time in months
1:01:30
from Saturday but that doesn't mean the
1:01:33
pandemic is over yet we aimed for July
1:01:36
the fourth we wanted to set ourselves a
1:01:39
target we think we're in good shape but
1:01:41
my message is let's not blow it now
1:01:43
folks we've done a fantastic job so far
1:01:45
in bearing down on this disease
1:01:47
collectively let's not blow it now
1:01:51
dozens of patients are still dying every
1:01:53
day in British hospitals and many
1:01:56
facilities such as gyms and swimming
1:01:58
pools will remain shut Britain's have
1:02:01
also been warned that they should
1:02:03
continue to social distance while out
1:02:05
and about the British government has
1:02:18
also become embroiled in a round with
1:02:20
their counterparts in Cardiff in
1:02:21
Edinburgh currently travellers entering
1:02:24
the united kingdom must quarantine for a
1:02:26
fortnight but London's decision to soon
1:02:29
exempt people arriving from 59 countries
1:02:32
from quarantine was met with fury from
1:02:34
the Welsh and Scottish Government's both
1:02:37
of whom have decided to opt out of the
1:02:39
plan but dealing with the UK government
1:02:41
over the last few days has been an
1:02:44
utterly shambolic experience shambolic
1:02:47
if ever there was an example of making
1:02:49
an announcement first and then trying to
1:02:52
work out what you meant by it that is
1:02:54
what we have seen since this
1:02:56
announcement was first trailed in the
1:02:58
press Boris Johnson has also warned that
1:03:02
further localised lockdowns may be
1:03:04
needed one has already been imposed on
1:03:07
the city of Leicester in the East
1:03:09
Midlands all in all it adds up to the
1:03:12
strangest British summer in living
1:03:15
memory 40.00 Shambala like about ten
1:03:21
years ago if you remember we did a whole
1:03:23
show on it yeah shambolic you remember
1:03:27
this I thought it was bullcrap word and
1:03:29
then we went looked into it it's a very
1:03:30
useful word shambolic look it up while
1:03:35
you're looking it up you know play the
1:03:38
lesson this was the Russia - played
1:03:40
first but I'm not playing it lastest at
1:03:41
the code report UK PBS one in England
1:03:44
pubs and restaurants open today for the
1:03:46
first time since March it's the biggest
1:03:49
step yet in the country's gradual easing
1:03:51
of coronavirus restrictions patrons need
1:03:53
to stay one metre about three feet from
1:03:55
each other and no one is allowed to
1:03:57
stand at the bar but mask-wearing is
1:04:00
optional barber shops museums and
1:04:02
libraries also reopen today we
1:04:04
social distancing restrictions but not
1:04:06
all of the United Kingdom is opening
1:04:08
each of the UK's four nation's England
1:04:10
Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland are
1:04:12
lifting restrictions independently the
1:04:19
Netherlands also has they don't even
1:04:21
call that a mask I was talking to a
1:04:22
buddy of mine I said do you have masks
1:04:23
their masks wouldn't be masks which is
1:04:26
mooches Musker in dutch they don't have
1:04:29
they have mouth caps that's where
1:04:30
they're called multi copia mouth caps
1:04:32
now only on public transport
1:04:35
no world's different virus there's
1:04:40
there's definitely a there's got to be
1:04:43
some the left who's trying to get rid of
1:04:45
Trump would love to you know let this
1:04:47
thing linger on forever but they're
1:04:50
they've got to have some mixed feelings
1:04:52
about this whole event and public
1:04:55
transportation which is a big carrier of
1:04:58
this thing because they're always old
1:05:00
we'll get rid of cars we should write
1:05:02
bikes and take buses and we should never
1:05:04
have our cars are bad that use petroleum
1:05:07
and they're bad things we should not
1:05:09
have which have less and less cars and
1:05:11
more and more buses and more and more
1:05:13
public transportation like they do in
1:05:14
Europe yeah and this has got to be
1:05:17
driving him nuts because nobody wants to
1:05:19
get on a Muni bus anymore in San
1:05:22
Francisco if in fact they've canceled 40
1:05:24
lines forty lines have been taken out of
1:05:26
service
1:05:27
Wow there's also no one needs to go
1:05:29
anywhere it's nothing going man but if
1:05:31
you need to go you you know who wants to
1:05:34
take a bus and bit BART is like deserted
1:05:36
and it's still running I mean you know
1:05:38
they closed they closed so much in in
1:05:40
Los Angeles - it's like I mean there are
1:05:44
like I heard that The Comedy Store
1:05:46
probably will not come back they're just
1:05:48
gonna be broke done yeah not gonna come
1:05:51
backs crazy I have a few uh like three
1:05:55
lingering clips that just pertain to the
1:05:57
cove unless you have something else and
1:05:58
we can wrap it up now those are my
1:06:00
that's all I got so with all of this
1:06:02
taking place which is ultimately the
1:06:07
goal of a vaccine is to create herd
1:06:10
immunity
1:06:11
herd immunity means that enough people
1:06:13
are have the antibodies or cannot catch
1:06:17
it and therefore transfer it that it
1:06:20
just really dies out because there's no
1:06:22
one to pass it on to and whether you do
1:06:25
that because everyone got it was some in
1:06:27
fact the UK wanted to do that initially
1:06:29
probably would have been a better
1:06:30
strategy it's what we do with influenza
1:06:33
we just wait until this herd immunity we
1:06:36
try to do herd immunity with the vaccine
1:06:38
that often doesn't even work at all
1:06:40
who knows dr. Ron Paul who I followed
1:06:44
since 2007 says that we're pretty much
1:06:46
there hundreds of pumps immunity is
1:06:49
something that we've been supporting
1:06:51
yeah nature support set herd immunity to
1:06:55
covet nineteen it's just around the
1:06:57
corner new studies say suggesting humans
1:06:59
are rapidly building natural protections
1:07:01
against the virus that's according to at
1:07:04
least two new studies by the Karolinska
1:07:06
Institute in Sweden and the University
1:07:08
Hospital Tuebingen in Germany the
1:07:11
studies finds at least 30 percent of
1:07:13
humans now have kovetz specific
1:07:15
antibodies which means they've been
1:07:17
exposed to weak samples of the virus and
1:07:20
effectively equals a natural vaccine
1:07:23
essentially here it's coming like
1:07:25
yesterday when you put up the charges
1:07:27
show where the DES levels were from the
1:07:30
crown of iris which is standard zero I
1:07:33
said well maybe the epidemic is over
1:07:36
Church shows what I was talking about
1:07:39
exactly not just an old kook yeah you
1:07:42
and you and Ron Paul same old cooks and
1:07:45
curries that he's training to be one
1:07:47
however there's more cool data points
1:07:50
that we talked about here such as the
1:07:52
spread through the air we had the top
1:07:55
dog Modi's to halt the dog he says this
1:07:59
thing is being spread through the air
1:08:00
you need to stay out of conditions air
1:08:04
have air but you have to have good
1:08:06
ventilation because it still needs a
1:08:08
viral load so if you're talking to
1:08:11
someone face to face it would likely
1:08:13
take about 10 minutes before you had
1:08:14
enough viral load until you know a copy
1:08:18
again
1:08:20
I think like I don't bury March at least
1:08:24
we had a clip of a guy who would your
1:08:27
doctor who said the only way gonna get
1:08:29
this is from hand contacted with the
1:08:31
actual viruses that you bring to your
1:08:33
face or you have to be in the proximity
1:08:36
of somebody with it
1:08:37
for a long time like 10 minutes so we're
1:08:41
not as this continues we're hearing
1:08:43
nothing new that we haven't already on
1:08:45
this show discussed in great detail back
1:08:49
in February March that's exactly that's
1:08:53
exactly what I was going to point out
1:08:59
that's kind of the point is like we have
1:09:03
been related if Austin if they say shut
1:09:06
down for 35 days I am defying and I'm
1:09:09
gonna make a big fucking deal about it
1:09:10
because you want your media services I
1:09:13
got you can go look at you look at the
1:09:16
order and you're gonna find out you're
1:09:17
exempt so you're dead you're defying it
1:09:20
is is is is a Pyrrhic victory I'm going
1:09:24
to stand outside my hairdressers salon
1:09:27
while she remains open and I will be
1:09:29
armed with my ar-15 or do you believe me
1:09:33
I have we've done the work we've done
1:09:37
the research we we're not just we just
1:09:39
not gonna buy into the reporting of it
1:09:41
and to the scam that is being pulled I
1:09:43
mean the wool being pulled over eyes no
1:09:45
no and just to prove it exactly what we
1:09:50
said through research with other types
1:09:52
of researchers who were deep platformed
1:09:54
and thrown off mainstream because they
1:09:56
didn't have the right message but it
1:09:58
turns out yes indeed it spreads through
1:10:02
their hundreds of the world's top
1:10:03
doctors Elizabeth are now warning 239 of
1:10:06
them signing this letter saying they
1:10:08
want more public acknowledgement that
1:10:10
the corona virus can float and be
1:10:11
transmitted through air droplets but I
1:10:13
have to say when I read this I thought
1:10:14
to myself we already know this isn't
1:10:16
hold on wait for it why masks are so
1:10:19
important what this gets very confusing
1:10:22
and sort of the distinction that
1:10:23
scientists understand but sometimes it's
1:10:25
hard to really get it so let's talk
1:10:26
about this yeah you know that
1:10:27
you're stupid whatever you're thinking
1:10:29
now you're stupid
1:10:31
mostly what authorities have talked
1:10:32
about you can see it on the CDC's web
1:10:34
page is that it's friends through
1:10:35
sneezes and coughs in other words there
1:10:38
has to be something propelling it
1:10:40
however there's been a lot of talk that
1:10:42
even just breathing can spread it then
1:10:45
you don't really need that kind of
1:10:46
propelling to get it to get that just to
1:10:49
spread the virus and this is not a big
1:10:51
secret the National Academy of Sciences
1:10:53
told the White House this more than
1:10:54
three months ago that they think just
1:10:56
breathing can spread this virus and so
1:10:59
now these scientists more than 200 of
1:11:01
them are telling the World Health
1:11:02
Organization let's talk about this
1:11:05
openly the word airborne is scary but
1:11:08
let's talk about this only that this
1:11:10
does spread more easily it seems that's
1:11:13
what studies are showing than people had
1:11:15
first thought okay so no it's not scary
1:11:19
you only need to be exactly where the
1:11:22
government tells you not to be you need
1:11:24
to be outside if you're inside
1:11:26
especially if the conditions are of
1:11:29
humidity are there then it's going to
1:11:32
hang in the air and then you walk around
1:11:34
for 10 minutes if someone has it you are
1:11:37
probably going to get it if that if you
1:11:38
have if you have a sick person put them
1:11:40
in their bedroom crack a window make
1:11:43
sure there's enough ventilation it's
1:11:45
going to be okay
1:11:46
mass do not work against this you are
1:11:48
breathing air it's not like your little
1:11:51
cloth mass that you've been told is okay
1:11:54
is going to protect you though you're
1:11:57
all going to get it because it's meant
1:11:59
to be gotten that way
1:12:01
it's it's there in fact I believe that
1:12:05
having a cloth homemade mask is probably
1:12:07
worse but it's not super scary that's
1:12:12
definitely not true it's just not super
1:12:14
scary I think the mess is good because
1:12:18
it gives people a mild case of carbon
1:12:20
dioxide poisoning does quite quickly
1:12:22
actually a zoo does it quite quickly it
1:12:25
buzzed me what the mask is only about
1:12:28
it's all about one thing politics
1:12:31
controlling the politics being able to
1:12:34
identify the assholes showing it
1:12:36
according to whomever showing that that
1:12:38
that Republicans are idiots
1:12:41
because they had didn't have the masks
1:12:42
and with increased testing it's a
1:12:44
sleight of hand it's a trick
1:12:45
hey you you opened up the suit you did
1:12:47
it wrong Austin by the way did not open
1:12:50
up too soon we've really waited longer
1:12:51
than most but okay and then you increase
1:12:54
the testing you only talk about testing
1:12:56
huh now we've got to shut down but now
1:12:58
don't worry help us on the way the
1:13:00
vaccine is coming and they're destroying
1:13:02
people they're destroying people the
1:13:06
European Union it's trying to pass a law
1:13:09
that says that in addition to an
1:13:13
pandemic the world and the European
1:13:18
Union specifically has suffered from an
1:13:19
info Demick of misinformation about
1:13:24
kovat and they're writing up laws
1:13:26
against anyone saying something that
1:13:29
doesn't agree with the established
1:13:31
scientists and they call it the info
1:13:35
Demick Wow now I want agreed be on that
1:13:39
list I'm sorry
1:13:41
would we be put on the list of the
1:13:44
verboten podcast the verboten podcast I
1:13:47
think they're gonna make it a little
1:13:48
easier it's just going to be you can't
1:13:51
say certain things and otherwise you'll
1:13:54
be de platformed removed and mean they
1:13:56
have all that control over the social
1:13:57
media companies they already tell them
1:14:01
to delete all kinds of stuff in the UK
1:14:03
you can't say anything about a
1:14:04
politician on social media you could get
1:14:05
arrested
1:14:07
I'm so happy to live here however am I
1:14:10
really do you remember the state senator
1:14:15
Scott Jenson from Minnesota yeah you
1:14:18
will when I tell you who said hey man
1:14:21
this coating of people is he's a bonanza
1:14:24
it's $39,000 to coat him as a CO vid
1:14:27
positive he was the first one we played
1:14:29
we played all right that was her old a
1:14:32
clip a very old way back when he's back
1:14:36
Justin I represent this is one of the
1:14:40
most important videos I've made and one
1:14:42
of the hardest frankly it's been a very
1:14:44
difficult decision to make
1:14:45
whether I even wanted to do it listen a
1:14:48
week ago I was notified by the board of
1:14:50
medical practice in Minnesota that I was
1:14:52
being investigated because of public
1:14:55
statements I'd made they listed two
1:14:57
allegations they said I've been
1:14:59
spreading misinformation in regards to
1:15:02
the completion of death certificates on
1:15:05
a news program which happened to take
1:15:07
place on April 7 and you could find that
1:15:10
if you want to do the other allegation
1:15:13
was that I provide advice in my
1:15:16
willingness to compare my family I mean
1:15:37
I'm in hospital yeah so he's maybe upset
1:16:07
about the the process occurrence maybes
1:16:09
upset about the process but the point is
1:16:12
the medical community and the industry
1:16:15
which includes pharmaceuticals and
1:16:17
education they won't allow this guy to
1:16:20
speak they eventually his video be off
1:16:23
YouTube they're investigating and me
1:16:26
it's making lots of trouble making his
1:16:28
life difficult like we heard the
1:16:29
professor from from the Nobel a society
1:16:33
saying no one wanted look I'm at data
1:16:35
that just said stop talking like that
1:16:37
and of course this never gets to the
1:16:39
mainstream media because when it's not
1:16:41
an election year what are the ads
1:16:44
running on the mainstream media if I may
1:16:48
be a pharmaceutical ads they completely
1:16:51
control the messaging and who are the
1:16:55
pharmaceutical companies I'll spoil it
1:16:58
China they have
1:16:59
complete control not is getting less now
1:17:01
they have incredible control over our
1:17:04
medication they have control over the
1:17:06
actual base materials you need even if
1:17:10
you want to assemble or produce in India
1:17:12
it was also China who showed the world
1:17:15
the shutdown which had never been done
1:17:17
before on that scale we in my mind are
1:17:20
under psychological attack with
1:17:22
complicit complicit behavior from
1:17:25
several large organizations Disney
1:17:29
Comcast and it has to stop we we should
1:17:35
learn as Americans to channel the
1:17:38
bigotry and the hate and the vile
1:17:41
feelings we have for each other at black
1:17:44
lives matter to the CCP well that's
1:17:48
gonna be my whole lust after the break
1:17:51
presentation and with that I'd like to
1:17:54
thank you for your courage I can't wait
1:17:55
for you it's in the morning to you the
1:17:57
man who puts the C in the block about
1:17:59
the CCP John C Dvorak oh well in the
1:18:03
morning to you mr. Adam Curry also in
1:18:05
the morning do all the boots on the
1:18:06
ground feet in the air stops in the
1:18:08
water and all the Dames tonight set in
1:18:10
the morning to art our roles
1:18:11
let me count them they seem a little
1:18:13
quiet today no that's about right 14 70s
1:18:16
about 1500 what we we expect on a
1:18:19
Thursday the second Sunday of the week
1:18:21
in the morning to you it's a no agenda
1:18:23
stream calm that's where you can hang
1:18:25
out alive in our troll room while you're
1:18:27
listening to the stream and it just
1:18:30
keeps on going from there after the show
1:18:31
there's another show
1:18:33
sometimes a podcast no commercials it's
1:18:36
all fun and you get to hang out with
1:18:38
cool people and troll the host stroll
1:18:41
the show yell about this is really a
1:18:44
free-for-all and it seems to work and
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while you're there ask for an invite for
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No Agenda social calm this is our a
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social network which runs on the
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Federated mastodons network underground
1:18:55
from all other social networks very high
1:18:58
signal-to-noise ratio that is no agenda
1:19:02
social calm and then finally I would
1:19:05
like to thank our artists for episode
1:19:10
1257 we tied
1:19:11
that one doggy DNA I feel which was
1:19:15
probably an uninspired title which it
1:19:20
was but a lot of that was because of the
1:19:24
artwork which was we found in the
1:19:27
evergreens it was an incredible piece of
1:19:31
work from the j-man 33 orange man bad
1:19:36
Trump's profile with the orange man bad
1:19:40
words showing his that that's his face
1:19:42
and his neck I mean it's it's the
1:19:44
background his Cheetos we got a lot of
1:19:46
compliments about this one it was a nice
1:19:51
throwback piece dating is like a film or
1:19:53
poster they can feel more east or west
1:19:57
still more film or film or a film or
1:20:00
yeah first there was the film or then
1:20:02
there was the Fillmore East and there
1:20:03
was the Fillmore West and Winterland
1:20:05
and the original film war was the place
1:20:08
I'm referring to it was a video was a
1:20:12
nice piece said don't know I would I
1:20:14
don't know we don't know this guy and it
1:20:17
probably worked a few of our regular
1:20:19
artists I know they were talking about
1:20:20
it on the Twitter well let's discuss
1:20:22
this because no one hit the mark the way
1:20:25
you know and just no one hit the mark so
1:20:27
he went to the evergreens found this I
1:20:29
can't believe we missed it or there must
1:20:31
have been something much better at the
1:20:32
time that happens we normally don't look
1:20:35
at ever grace unless we're stymied right
1:20:38
but that just just it's everyone's stuff
1:20:42
is really busy sticking stuff all over
1:20:45
it you know now with 33 I mean you gotta
1:20:47
be careful you know it's these concept
1:20:50
pieces are really really good and just
1:20:54
by looking at the the the response on
1:20:57
Twitter I think it does that it does to
1:20:59
show a huge benefit when you have so I
1:21:01
wouldn't think by the way I also picked
1:21:03
another mountain JP's for the newsletter
1:21:05
two in a row no no but this was this was
1:21:08
not Mountain Jay this was no there's the
1:21:10
other Jay yeah yeah just we don't know
1:21:12
this person so I don't want anyone to
1:21:16
think this is a failure you know it's
1:21:18
that's how it goes sometimes we also
1:21:20
have a whiff we with the ball
1:21:22
shows that sometimes are hard to do art
1:21:25
for this is also true and sometimes
1:21:27
we're just tired there was an element of
1:21:32
that involved so that's no agenda art
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generator calm please go have a look you
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can participate you can upload and
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there's many ways that this art is
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utilized show album art newsletter art
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people print it out put it up in their
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homes it's so good and also no agenda
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shop calm where you can always find some
1:21:52
cool pieces and now let us thank our
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executive producers and associate
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executive producers for episode what do
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we add one thousand two hundred fifty
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eight one two five eight well we start
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with Julianne Lee and Boonesboro
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wrote a note thank you for all you do
1:22:15
the No Agenda community needs you more
1:22:17
than ever and we love you dearly the
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rest of this note is for all the
1:22:21
producers and douchebags out there old
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and new one if you think you need to
1:22:29
agree with Jon and Adam 100 percent of
1:22:30
the time you're missing the point the
1:22:32
show exists to teach you how to think
1:22:33
independently hello yes to don't think
1:22:38
shrinking our amygdala is enough you
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need to increase your frontal cortex as
1:22:44
well keep thinking rationally all the
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time 3 if you haven't yet please go back
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and listen to episode 850 208 3 redux
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that's 200 point 8 I will give you group
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you know Gregory great insight into No
1:23:04
Agenda show and it explains a lot of the
1:23:06
inside jokes that's a show to hook 100.8
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yes it was actually show 850 oh ok 200
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point 8 all right good
1:23:14
yeah it's to show 200 we've done eight
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times yeah I think we retired it didn't
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we I think we're kind of done well we
1:23:21
kind of did but we've been talking about
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doing a new 200 and rebooting it yeah we
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have thought about it anyway she says
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helps you explain a lot of the inside
1:23:31
jokes if you're white you're racist by
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secret-agent Paul is an order
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and an end of show is find if the
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segment's already too long love and
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light Julianne Lee I was dancer jingle
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requested yes racist yeah I have that
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and did she want a karma or it's just I
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would get I would request karma for her
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sure Miguel Espanola from New York New
1:24:36
York New York a what's poppin Alejandro
1:24:38
and Jose he says this is Senor Miguel
1:24:41
from Washington Heights I'd like to
1:24:43
first and foremost thank you for just
1:24:44
being some cool-ass dudes y'all ninjas
1:24:47
Rock I'm glad I'm reading this word yes
1:24:50
y'all ninjas Rock broseph this donation
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amount has an extra fifty cents because
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my birthday is three three eighty three
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in his amount is 333 and 83 cents as the
1:25:02
covert scare continues to grip the
1:25:04
country I'd liked I'd like you to see
1:25:05
things from the hood here in Washington
1:25:08
Heights this is very helpful let's call
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it a boots on the ground donation
1:25:12
Dominicans are back to partying outside
1:25:14
and making all kinds of noise the only
1:25:16
thing that's changed is the fact that
1:25:18
some people wear a face mask now with
1:25:19
the cops not really doing anything about
1:25:21
crime it is inching way up and I must
1:25:24
say good I don't like the gentrification
1:25:27
that was occurring maybe this will scare
1:25:30
them into going away for a while doubt
1:25:33
it though the amount of luxury
1:25:35
high-rises and office space is being
1:25:36
built is evident that all this
1:25:38
rambunctious acts are just until
1:25:40
November and after elections it's going
1:25:42
back the way shit was and the cops being
1:25:44
the dicks that they are and I'd like to
1:25:46
give a shout-out to Alex and Athena for
1:25:48
inviting my fan
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and I entered their home last Thursday
1:25:52
we smoked weed ate pizza and just vibed
1:25:55
out this is your No Agenda profile crazy
1:25:58
shit is that Alex and Athena are the
1:26:00
only white people I know my whole life
1:26:03
I've only known white people in
1:26:06
positions of authority teachers
1:26:07
principals cops thank you for giving my
1:26:10
father Karma's he's out of the hospital
1:26:11
had tracheotomy surgery and lost 85
1:26:14
pounds but as having the tube removed
1:26:16
next week he's a lot stronger he and I
1:26:18
rarely spoke and Rona has helped us
1:26:20
become closer in life I'd asked her some
1:26:23
jobs karma I lost mine with COBIT and
1:26:25
was replaced by someone who made a lot
1:26:26
less and the company is suffering for
1:26:28
doing that which makes me smile I live
1:26:31
on an extremely tight budget and get by
1:26:33
by hustling weed products throughout the
1:26:35
city follow me on the instagrams for
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those who need medicinal needs NY state
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of AI NY sta te o f ey e please give me
1:26:47
a my best friend brother Glenn D out
1:26:49
there in Austin some Karma for the
1:26:51
family with the passing of us
1:26:53
grandmother I hope to meet you Jen soon
1:26:54
blessings blessings to you saying you
1:26:56
owe me well and thank you for that boots
1:26:58
on the ground report that is actually
1:27:00
quite good so jobs karma jobs jobs jobs
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and jobs karma Michael Conti follows up
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from Mansfield Texas with 300 $33.33
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here's my long overdue contribution he
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writes ice kept spending the
1:27:24
contribution before I reached the PayPal
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app I finally got in the app with a
1:27:28
little cash so here it is thanks for the
1:27:31
great work I'll try it to be more
1:27:33
responsible a more responsible listener
1:27:36
but now I'm having to buy masks for work
1:27:39
exercise shopping travel driving social
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you should have a mass for driving
1:27:43
social events and now the beach so I
1:27:45
don't know when I can afford my next
1:27:47
visit to the PayPal dealer's choice on
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the jingles Michael ice will do exactly
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that
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1:28:03
you've got Mariella null fo in Pineville
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Oregon 3 3 3
1:28:14
a lot of Oregonians that listen to this
1:28:17
show there's more meetups well they're
1:28:18
under in trouble I would happen but what
1:28:21
happened to our Grand Duke melon son he
1:28:22
seems to be you know you don't say that
1:28:25
because every single time you say that
1:28:26
he starts posting pictures of himself
1:28:28
looking just fine okay good he's fine
1:28:31
ITM Jon and Adam well I didn't know this
1:28:34
the executive producer donation takes me
1:28:36
half way to Dame hood where's he post
1:28:38
them on tweeter
1:28:40
I said I'd used to we know I know oh you
1:28:43
really you're done huh not good well I'm
1:28:44
not completely done but I would like
1:28:48
people who are on Twitter to put good to
1:28:51
follow me so I can get my numbers back
1:28:53
up
1:28:53
Oh real Dvorak hmm oh man what happens
1:28:59
is whenever you post people unfollow you
1:29:01
because you post off them no no they're
1:29:04
not have following me there dad I just
1:29:05
post me about the show they've if
1:29:06
they're gonna follow me for that they
1:29:08
should have done it a little time we go
1:29:09
okay at the real differ coming Jay ad me
1:29:11
getting somebody at there's a hacker out
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there they can jack me no bet my numbers
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up 2,000 extra my hacker you are getting
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deep play you're getting deep lots come
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on hacker you're getting D platform
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Twitter Oh
1:29:26
Dvorak at the real Dvorak was saying he
1:29:28
wants hackers turns up his numbers who
1:29:30
said odd though something about that
1:29:32
you're canceled I did you're canceled
1:29:34
Prineville Oregon again we're going back
1:29:37
to Mariela null fo yes she just takes
1:29:41
her halfway to Dame hood I make it today
1:29:43
in celebration of what my husband
1:29:44
calling the deaf dumb blind night how we
1:29:47
know him my rebirth day to the day I'd
1:29:49
survived the death sentence of a brain
1:29:51
aneurysm on July 8 2017 oh yes we know
1:29:55
Mariela yes well it turns out I actually
1:29:58
have something in common with Bo Jaden
1:30:00
when I donate on this day in 2018 I
1:30:04
wrote that no agenda was a crucial part
1:30:05
of my recovery through a two-month
1:30:07
hospitals stand to brain surgery just
1:30:10
like Joe yep
1:30:11
listening to it with my husband kept me
1:30:12
connected and engaged with him while all
1:30:15
of the other memory and body functions
1:30:16
were failing me but the brain health
1:30:18
benefits didn't stop there as I reflect
1:30:20
on my third rebirth day I can honestly
1:30:23
say that recovery has not been easy I
1:30:26
still suffer from chronic migraines as
1:30:28
my skull knits back together some
1:30:31
short-term memory loss and anxiety
1:30:33
exists but thanks to this show one thing
1:30:36
I definitely do not suffer from is this
1:30:37
terrible sickness the m5n M is
1:30:41
inflicting on society overcoming the
1:30:44
ability of everyone I know and love to
1:30:46
think and feel rationally so people
1:30:48
while you may struggle to get access to
1:30:51
hydroxychloroquine for that pesky covin
1:30:53
19 remember that the prescription for
1:30:56
m5m disease is simple listen to no
1:31:00
agenda
1:31:02
thank you both sincerely for continually
1:31:04
being my bastions of sanity as I
1:31:06
navigate through the rest of my life's
1:31:07
difficult he's given me one thing less
1:31:09
to worry about special thanks also to
1:31:11
Adam for sharing my exposition on my
1:31:15
auditory processing research with the
1:31:17
show earlier this year just one way this
1:31:20
amazing community has shown that it will
1:31:22
uplift you and give you true a true
1:31:24
platform for great thoughts and ideas no
1:31:27
special access required no special
1:31:30
access required jingle request Tom saw a
1:31:32
rush version of the OTG kind of guy okay
1:31:35
turning the frogs gay Alex Jones
1:31:39
followed by Jordan Peterson that's wrong
1:31:42
respectfully Mariela
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don't see the Florrick bakelite steady
1:31:50
he's an OTG kind of guy
1:31:52
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1:31:55
I don't like putting chemicals in the
1:32:01
water to turn the friggin frogs wrong I
1:32:09
wasn't Peterson that was just a wrong
1:32:12
that wasn't Peterson what's wrong I
1:32:14
don't know what happened to him
1:32:15
Peterson that's wrong that's wrong no we
1:32:21
don't have that anymore for some reason
1:32:23
who knows Oh in fact here it is of
1:32:27
course you knew it was coming
1:32:29
that's wrong boom wow did you just as an
1:32:31
aside did you see the latest podcast
1:32:33
from his daughter and Peterson together
1:32:37
no yes so she did a family update but
1:32:40
it's her and her dad and he looks pretty
1:32:43
pretty good and they're in Bulgaria and
1:32:47
they tell the story of what happened
1:32:50
and oh my god I mean it's it's it's it's
1:32:55
crazy what they went through and he's
1:32:58
still not out of the woods but the just
1:33:00
the spoiler what happened you know I
1:33:02
don't know any of this what happened I
1:33:03
know I guess yeah so his wife got you
1:33:06
know basically cancer that was incurable
1:33:08
and apparently he had already been on
1:33:11
SSRIs for about ten years but then you
1:33:16
know he said all this grief and a lot of
1:33:17
things were happening and so he was
1:33:19
prescribed benzos which is you know the
1:33:24
benzo I don't know the full proper name
1:33:27
but it's basically it helps you get to
1:33:29
sleep and lowers an anxiety a lot of
1:33:32
people are on this here's the thing that
1:33:34
we now learn from the Petersons about
1:33:37
benzos that diazepam is an example so
1:33:41
anything that ends in Pam is probably
1:33:43
going to be a benzo there yes there's a
1:33:47
mental addiction that is possible but
1:33:51
the actual physical dependency is insane
1:33:56
and if you try to stop and you don't
1:33:58
taper off I wasn't prepared for this but
1:34:01
there's something called a kenosis or
1:34:03
something and it feels like like you
1:34:06
don't know if you want to stand up sit
1:34:07
down you rock
1:34:08
and forth which reminded me of Bill
1:34:10
Gates and and you can feel like your
1:34:13
skin is burning and it's this horrible
1:34:15
horrible state and and und and you can't
1:34:18
stop it unless you continue to take the
1:34:21
the benzos and it's just a never ending
1:34:23
story and then on top of that they leave
1:34:27
us with the fact that Heath Ledger
1:34:29
Whitney Houston Michael Jackson men Anna
1:34:35
Nicole Smith
1:34:36
they all died with benzos in their
1:34:39
system so it's something that needs to
1:34:42
be looked at it could actually be worse
1:34:44
than opioids it could be it could be
1:34:46
anyway it's something to be seen it's in
1:34:48
the show notes I just saw any clips or
1:34:50
anything that's terrible it's really
1:34:53
really but man that daughter what an
1:34:56
angel she took him around the world
1:34:58
Moscow in the middle of a pandemic she
1:35:01
was not gonna let her dad die I'm very
1:35:03
impressed and I hope I get the same
1:35:05
treatment from my kid
1:35:09
why what do you got going on no I'd
1:35:12
worry if I ever needed it ever needed it
1:35:14
snow of course I got nothing going off
1:35:16
well Alex Brewers next on the list
1:35:19
associate executive producer from Kill
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Devil Hills in North Carolina 234
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you're both tis I Alex the Ignite films
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you know anything maybe I can come down
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I can you know just play a barkeep I
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could pay I'm a cashier at a store
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John's like they shoot him have you
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never had a bit part in anything how
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I've been in a couple of TV's Louis's
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yeah but you want to be in a motion
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sent this on the big screen on the big
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as my father mentioned we will be
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our third eyes unsheathed amen fist bump
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they did two three four five seven hello
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have a great time anyways anyways take
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care and keep on truckin ah man keep on
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truckin no jingles no karma r3 you are
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it comes in every two weeks with a a
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world myself Thank You Sara
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jobs jobs jobs and jobs
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now Kelly from Minnesota sends a 200 our
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chicken and a note and I will say this
1:40:23
she does mention it in here she sent
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some pottery Oh three pieces and you
1:40:32
were dated differently and you can tell
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that she's become a really outstanding
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for her benefit is outstanding please
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accept my first donation I've been
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listening for five years now and ever
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necessarily hard easy to read we were
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together for five years old oh the first
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year wasn't exclusive for him and the
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last couple have had some rough patches
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Mother's Day he is a special man who has
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a privileged place in my heart so please
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send him some relationship karma this
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fall I am entering a new a new look says
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guess I know she needs some job become
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the farmers market every Saturday if I
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could also send some pottery making ants
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and selling karma so she needs pottery
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making and selling Karma that would be
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great next time I'll send some - Adam no
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jingles but John if you could say oh
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brother followed by Adam saying
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fantastic that would be perfect both of
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you feel like family like every other
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and Kelly so we have to sad to say old
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brother and then you say fantastic okay
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oh brother
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fantastic all right one take one take
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everybody but she did this for some car
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then she said she didn't I want to make
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sure she gets in just in case you've got
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karma that is our last donor
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secular associate executive producer for
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show 1258 we want to thank all the
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executive producers and associate
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executive producers for helping make
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this show possible because you did make
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although I don't see it reflected from a
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lady when Miller according to my records
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my thirty three dollars and 33 cents a
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other monetary computers the
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contributions over the past ten plus
1:43:04
years qualifies me as a dame so that so
1:43:07
we wouldn't read this during the segment
1:43:09
I want to make sure we do if possible
1:43:11
could this be done around July 8th my
1:43:13
birthday well isn't that a coincidence
1:43:15
how cool is that yes what a wonderful
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present this will be words cannot
1:43:19
express my deep humility and how and the
1:43:21
great honor that I feel to finally wear
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this lofty title I offer my solemn vow
1:43:26
to always live up to the many high
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expectations that come with it
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daunting as they may be the game name
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that I chose is Lady whent of the lakes
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if you wouldn't mind I'd like to have
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spicy Mapo 2 to Mapo tofu if you do if
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you wouldn't mind I do you guys have
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that what is it I don't know Mapo tofu
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and mojitos at the round table it's
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ordered please send an F cancer and Jobs
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Karma for us with gratitude when Miller
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of course we can do that for you jobs
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jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs
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1:44:06
you've got karma and yeah this is kind
1:44:11
of interesting tear call a couple shows
1:44:13
ago I had someone had sent a bunch of
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Herrick Vicki had sent me a whole bunch
1:44:18
of haircare products that make your hair
1:44:20
grow with a two hundred dollar check now
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she sent the check to me so that's been
1:44:25
mailed off to the PIO box so she'll get
1:44:26
her official associate executive
1:44:28
producer ship and I and I mentioned this
1:44:31
to you
1:44:31
I must have received 10 emails of people
1:44:37
saying doo doo doo dude
1:44:39
what was it tell me what we're foots who
1:44:41
reps I want stuff that makes my hair
1:44:43
grow so I feel obliged to say that the
1:44:46
happy hair formula.com is Vicki's
1:44:49
personal website and let us know how
1:44:52
that works out for you that could be
1:44:53
kind of interesting we could we could
1:44:55
eventually have the official hair care
1:44:56
product of the No Agenda show if it's
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any good no agenda hair care hair care
1:45:01
product it's nap for Humanity this
1:45:06
there's some other guys who were talking
1:45:08
about some coffee I just want to make it
1:45:11
clear now hey man we'd like to put that
1:45:14
no agenda logo on the coffee and we'll
1:45:15
give you a third no no no no no no if we
1:45:19
like a product we may endorse it I don't
1:45:23
know about having our logo on it I don't
1:45:26
think that's the right way to go what do
1:45:27
you think well a couple things we had we
1:45:35
had a no agenda beer out of Australia as
1:45:37
you recall yes that's true yeah and he
1:45:40
had our logo with kind of a logo on it
1:45:42
and we've had other products that all
1:45:45
the t-shirts are number this shop it got
1:45:47
the logo all over I don't see why it's a
1:45:49
probably all of a sudden we hate coffee
1:45:52
I don't I would like to test the taste
1:45:55
the coffee before it becomes official no
1:45:58
agenda coffee is that close now that's
1:46:00
different yeah that's I will I will say
1:46:03
this I will agree with that so we need a
1:46:06
couple pounds of coffee and then we you
1:46:07
can put yeah I mean a little micro brew
1:46:10
from Australia I mean oh by the way it
1:46:13
wasn't even that Mike Road made it all
1:46:14
the way to the US it was selling
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it was a monster kiss a biggie sexy big
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microbrewery a big microbrewery
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fantastic it makes no sense but there it
1:46:25
is
1:46:26
alright everybody thank you so much
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1:47:33
but I caught at just this last week
1:47:37
Christopher Rae gave a lecture at the
1:47:42
Hudson Hudson Institute
1:47:44
now wait Christopher Rae is he the FBI
1:47:45
boss now yeah he's the FBI box now what
1:47:49
was this guy apart I'm always confused
1:47:51
was he a part of the scam with Comey was
1:47:54
he in that group was he one of the
1:47:59
cronies running around I mean not that
1:48:01
anyone can tell he came in late in the
1:48:04
game Trump brought it banned put him in
1:48:06
there he hasn't you know it has it
1:48:09
busted you know gone through and audited
1:48:12
the FBI or anything but he's definitely
1:48:14
on board with this anti with this not
1:48:16
anti but this China stuff ah good and so
1:48:20
he gives a lecture here and this is a
1:48:21
little long it's got there's six parts
1:48:23
to it but it's a couple of more short -
1:48:25
a couple more long unfortunately but
1:48:26
it's so good okay because he names names
1:48:29
he names cases and a lot of this stuff
1:48:31
we've never heard about that he the m5m
1:48:34
doesn't discuss it to any extreme like
1:48:36
they remember every time there was a
1:48:38
terrorist some dumb you know some blow i
1:48:41
cubed guys in florid after you recall it
1:48:45
will blow up the White House and they've
1:48:48
you know they bust these guys big cycle
1:48:51
all over of course is not over any of
1:48:55
this what you're gonna hear here is all
1:48:57
set for a couple items is fairly new to
1:49:00
me and the media doesn't cover it
1:49:04
because the media as we visit you
1:49:06
mentioned earlier is controlled by the
1:49:09
Chinese the CCP for sure
1:49:11
and so we're gonna hear a little bit
1:49:13
about how how controlling they are with
1:49:16
it with that this went on for about a
1:49:17
good maybe an hour I don't I don't have
1:49:20
like you know maybe ten minutes of it
1:49:22
but I tried to pull out the best stuff
1:49:25
this is rayon China Hudson Institute one
1:49:28
the greatest long-term threat to our
1:49:31
nation's information and intellectual
1:49:33
property and to our economic vitality is
1:49:36
the counterintelligence an economic
1:49:38
espionage threat from China
1:49:40
it's a threat to our economic security
1:49:42
and by extension to our national
1:49:45
security as national security adviser
1:49:48
O'Brien said in his recent remarks we
1:49:51
cannot close our eyes and ears to what
1:49:53
China's doing and today in light of the
1:49:57
importance of this threat I will provide
1:49:59
more detail on the Chinese threat than
1:50:01
the FBI has ever presented no nice in an
1:50:04
open forum this threat is so significant
1:50:07
that the Attorney General and Secretary
1:50:09
of State will also be addressing a lot
1:50:11
of these issues in the next few weeks
1:50:14
which is true
1:50:16
Pompeyo just did this huge thing on the
1:50:19
ingre ham show all about China I didn't
1:50:22
clip it for today because we were
1:50:23
already full but yeah there's a definite
1:50:25
push from the administration doing this
1:50:27
but if you think these issues are just
1:50:30
an intelligence issue or a government
1:50:33
problem or a nuisance largely just for
1:50:36
big corporations who can largely take
1:50:38
care of themselves you could not be more
1:50:40
wrong it's the people of the United
1:50:42
States who are the victims of what
1:50:44
amounts to Chinese theft on a scale so
1:50:47
massive that it represents one of the
1:50:50
largest transfers of wealth in human
1:50:53
history
1:50:53
if you're an American adult it is more
1:50:56
likely than not that China has stolen
1:50:59
your personal data in 2017 the Chinese
1:51:04
military conspired to hack Equifax and
1:51:07
made off with the sensitive personal
1:51:09
information of 150 million Americans
1:51:12
we're talking nearly half of the
1:51:15
American population and most American
1:51:18
adults and as I'll discuss in a few
1:51:21
moments this was hardly a standalone
1:51:23
incident our data isn't the only thing
1:51:27
at stake here so our health our
1:51:29
livelihoods and our security we've now
1:51:33
reached the point where the FBI is
1:51:36
opening a new China related counter
1:51:39
telogen skate about every 10 hours this
1:51:42
is interesting we probably didn't hear
1:51:45
about this because the news broke on
1:51:48
February 10th 2020 which and it's all
1:51:52
over when you see it
1:51:54
facts breach how Chinese armored army
1:51:56
hackers allegedly stole it's all about
1:51:59
the China stole America's personal data
1:52:02
I don't recall this at all of course we
1:52:04
were probably looking at Corona at that
1:52:08
point is this a recent heck as the
1:52:10
Equifax hack is as I recall it was two
1:52:13
years ago yes but this is this is the
1:52:16
they filed an indictment against China
1:52:18
oh no we know about the hack from two
1:52:22
years ago cuz we discussed it on the
1:52:23
show yes but we didn't know but we did
1:52:25
know we did well it's in the news but it
1:52:28
was never reported you're right it was
1:52:30
never clear it was China and by the way
1:52:32
that's interesting that that well
1:52:36
reminder that we signed a deal with
1:52:38
China in January which of course they
1:52:43
were full of crap when signing it so who
1:52:46
knows it was not intended to be brought
1:52:48
out to the front whatever it is no major
1:52:50
headlines I don't see a New York Times
1:52:51
article about it that's for sure
1:52:53
no this stuff is - everything you're
1:52:56
gonna hear in these five clips
1:52:58
explicitly is suppressed and this is the
1:53:02
head of the FBI who I don't know that he
1:53:05
goes out and on the speaking tour ever I
1:53:08
mean he comes to the Hudson Institute
1:53:09
and he does this long talk or he's and
1:53:12
I'm only like I said slept in parts if
1:53:14
there's a lot of stuff in here yeah I
1:53:16
would recommend up and go listen for
1:53:18
themselves it's quite interesting is it
1:53:21
but it's definitely interesting so the
1:53:25
next clip would be mmm is there a tool
1:53:28
in here no you have a - optional yeah -
1:53:30
the attitude this is an optional clip do
1:53:33
you want to hear it
1:53:34
this is a short one minute this is a lot
1:53:36
this was like not as good a clip as the
1:53:39
rest of the nearly 5,000 active FBI
1:53:42
counterintelligence cases oh yeah a
1:53:44
horrible clip I don't want to listen to
1:53:45
it currently underway across the country
1:53:49
almost half are all related to China
1:53:52
yeah and at this very moment China is
1:53:56
working to compromise American
1:53:57
healthcare organizations pharmaceutical
1:54:00
companies
1:54:00
and academic institutions conducting
1:54:03
essential kovat 19 research we need to
1:54:06
be clear-eyed about the scope of the
1:54:09
Chinese government's ambition in China
1:54:12
the Chinese Communist Party believes
1:54:15
it's in a generational fight to surpass
1:54:17
our country in economic and
1:54:19
technological leadership now that's
1:54:22
sobering enough but it's waging that
1:54:25
fight not through legitimate innovation
1:54:28
not through fair and lawful competition
1:54:31
and not by giving their citizens the
1:54:34
freedom of thought and speech and
1:54:36
creativity that we treasure here in the
1:54:38
United States instead China is engaged
1:54:42
in a hold of state effort to become the
1:54:46
world's only superpower by any means
1:54:48
necessary wow this is a great talk and
1:54:51
it's good because the only people I hear
1:54:53
bitching about it is podcasters and
1:54:56
youtubers if not even the youtubers
1:54:59
honestly but is nice nice to hear it
1:55:01
from some Authority for once
1:55:02
yeah the youtubers that would bitch
1:55:04
about this or getting beaten teeth or
1:55:06
taken off exactly okay let's go to this
1:55:10
is the the he read discusses the
1:55:13
thousand talents program this is we do
1:55:15
know a little bit about this and here we
1:55:17
go through it's talent recruitment
1:55:18
programs like the so called thousand
1:55:20
talents program the Chinese government
1:55:22
tries to entice scientists to secretly
1:55:25
bring our knowledge and innovation back
1:55:27
to China even if that means stealing
1:55:30
proprietary information or violating our
1:55:34
export controls and conflict of interest
1:55:36
rules take the case of scientists hong
1:55:40
jin tan for example a Chinese national
1:55:43
an american lawful permanent resident he
1:55:47
applied to china's thousand talents
1:55:49
program and stole more than 1 billion
1:55:52
that's with a be worth of trade secrets
1:55:55
from his former employer an
1:55:57
oklahoma-based petroleum company and got
1:56:00
caught a few months ago he was convicted
1:56:03
and sent to prison Wars there's the case
1:56:06
of Shaanxi a texas-based scientists also
1:56:09
sentenced to prison earlier this year
1:56:11
she stole trade secret
1:56:14
regarding syntactic foam an important
1:56:17
naval technology used in submarines she
1:56:20
too had applied to China's thousand
1:56:22
talents program and specifically pledged
1:56:25
to digest and absorb the relevant
1:56:29
technology in the United States he did
1:56:32
this on behalf of Chinese state-owned
1:56:35
enterprises which ultimately planned to
1:56:38
put the American company out of business
1:56:39
and take over the market in one of the
1:56:43
more galling and egregious aspects of
1:56:45
the scheme the conspirators actually
1:56:48
patented in China the very manufacturing
1:56:50
process they'd stolen and then offered
1:56:53
their victim American company a joint
1:56:56
venture using its own stolen technology
1:56:59
we're talking about an American company
1:57:01
that spent years and millions of dollars
1:57:04
dollars developing that technology and
1:57:07
China couldn't replicate it so instead
1:57:09
it paid to have it stolen and just two
1:57:13
weeks ago how John was convicted of
1:57:16
economic espionage theft of trade
1:57:18
secrets and conspiracy for stealing
1:57:21
proprietary information about wireless
1:57:23
devices from two US companies one of
1:57:27
those companies had spent over 20 years
1:57:29
developing the technology at John Stoll
1:57:32
these cases were among more than a
1:57:36
thousand investigations the FBI has into
1:57:38
China's actual and attempted theft of
1:57:41
American technology and that's not even
1:57:44
talking about the more than a thousand
1:57:46
other ongoing counterintelligence
1:57:48
investigations of other kinds related in
1:57:51
China kind of makes makes you happy that
1:57:54
we blocked the Huawei 5g systems in the
1:57:58
United States when you hear all this I
1:58:01
have always believed when I first ran
1:58:03
into a wall way which is probably his
1:58:05
early days they had a did when Comdex
1:58:09
was still a viable when it was at an
1:58:11
actual conference which ended they there
1:58:15
was a huawei boost I believe in early
1:58:17
one and I went in there curious about
1:58:20
these this operation and they that was
1:58:24
pretty much
1:58:25
I wasn't kind kind of thrown out but as
1:58:28
soon as I walked when I walked in there
1:58:31
was a hole there was a scattering they
1:58:34
scattered around the next thing you know
1:58:35
some boss came out to ask me what I was
1:58:39
what I wanted to know and it was very
1:58:41
creepy I found the company to be
1:58:43
off-putting to say the least and I've
1:58:46
always been convinced that they just
1:58:49
ripped off Cisco or juniper these
1:58:55
companies are companies it never made
1:58:57
any sense to me otherwise but now it was
1:59:02
onward with this with this and by the
1:59:06
way again a lot is being skipped and
1:59:09
we're gonna go on to clip 4 where he
1:59:11
talks about academia which seems to be a
1:59:13
real target it's a troublingly similar
1:59:16
story in academia through talent
1:59:19
recruitment programs like the thousand
1:59:21
talents program I mentioned just a few
1:59:23
moments ago China pays scientists at
1:59:26
American universities to secretly bring
1:59:28
our knowledge and innovation back to
1:59:31
China including valuable federally
1:59:34
funded research to put it bluntly this
1:59:38
means American taxpayers are effectively
1:59:40
footing the bill for China's own
1:59:42
technological development China then
1:59:46
leverages its ill-gotten gains to
1:59:48
undercut us research institutions and
1:59:51
companies blunting our nation's
1:59:53
advancement and costing American jobs
1:59:56
and we're seeing more and more of these
1:59:59
cases in May alone we arrested both
2:00:04
Ching Wong a former researcher with the
2:00:06
Cleveland Clinic who worked on molecular
2:00:08
medicine and the genetics of
2:00:10
cardiovascular disease and Simon saw
2:00:14
Tian long the University of Arkansas
2:00:16
scientists doing research for NASA both
2:00:19
of these guys were allegedly committing
2:00:22
fraud by concealing their participation
2:00:24
in Chinese talent recruitment programs
2:00:26
while accepting millions of dollars in
2:00:29
American federal grant funding
2:00:33
that same month former Emory University
2:00:36
professor xiaochi yang Lee pled guilty
2:00:39
to filing a false tax return for failing
2:00:41
to report the income he'd received
2:00:43
through China's thousand talents program
2:00:45
our investigation found that while he
2:00:48
was researching Huntington's disease at
2:00:50
Emory
2:00:51
he was also pocketing a half a million
2:00:53
unreported dollars nice in China
2:00:56
in a similar vein Charles Lieber chair
2:00:59
of Harvard's Department of Chemistry and
2:01:01
chemical biology was indicted just last
2:01:03
month for making false statements to
2:01:06
federal authorities about his thousand
2:01:08
talents participation the United States
2:01:11
has alleged that Lieber concealed from
2:01:14
both Harvard and the NIH his position as
2:01:17
a strategic scientist at a Chinese
2:01:19
university and the fact that the Chinese
2:01:22
government was paying him through the
2:01:24
Wuhan Institute of Technology a $50,000
2:01:28
monthly stipend more than a hundred and
2:01:30
fifty thousand dollars in living
2:01:32
expenses and more than 1.5 million
2:01:34
dollars to establish a laboratory back
2:01:38
in China it's amazing how she kind of
2:01:41
skirts all of this yeah he paid he made
2:01:44
sure that they got paid that the lab got
2:01:46
set up we got the gain-of-function down
2:01:48
there I mean how when does that guy get
2:01:50
in trouble oh I'm sorry never well you
2:01:54
don't know that true um but he's not
2:01:57
he's got such a high profile to be
2:01:59
hardened to bust them but they dick goes
2:02:01
on and on but the number that keeps
2:02:03
cropping up and it's not in all the
2:02:05
clips but I've put throughout the
2:02:07
speeches is the Chinese are dropping a
2:02:09
half a million dollars a year for these
2:02:12
people to these peoples they're very
2:02:14
people are corruptible at that amount of
2:02:17
money yes it's gonna take an awful lot
2:02:20
of work by our by the FBI and the CIA
2:02:24
which and the CIA we have to remember to
2:02:26
remind people they lost all most of
2:02:28
their agents in China yeah but I can't
2:02:32
remember the number but it was a girl 12
2:02:34
or something at 12 that was more than at
2:02:37
but major ages in China and also that
2:02:42
busted and killed certainly about these
2:02:44
cases there has been reporting in The
2:02:45
Washington Post
2:02:46
New York Times about the actual arrests
2:02:49
but nothing big I mean no obviously no
2:02:51
big television expose s that I'm
2:02:54
familiar with you know it's all online
2:02:56
if you want to learn about it but it's
2:02:58
now of course it's you're not gonna get
2:03:00
anything through the certainly not the
2:03:02
US media maybe not others as well and
2:03:04
we've already discussed the the probable
2:03:06
reasons why they own it they indeed own
2:03:12
it let's go to the malign influence is
2:03:15
an interesting term I like which is also
2:03:17
in show title malign influences of
2:03:19
malign influence five China is engaged
2:03:22
in a highly sophisticated maligned
2:03:25
foreign influence campaign and its
2:03:26
methods include bribery blackmail and
2:03:30
covert deals Chinese diplomats also use
2:03:34
both open naked economic pressure and
2:03:37
seemingly independent middlemen to push
2:03:40
China's preferences on American
2:03:42
officials just take one all too common
2:03:46
illustration let's say China gets wind
2:03:48
that some American official was planning
2:03:51
to travel to Taiwan thanked a governor a
2:03:53
state senator a member of Congress China
2:03:56
does not want that to happen because
2:03:58
that travel might appear to legitimize
2:04:00
Taiwanese independence from China and
2:04:03
legitimizing Taiwan would of course be
2:04:05
contrary to China's one China policy so
2:04:09
what it's trying to do while China has
2:04:11
leverage over the American officials
2:04:13
constituents American companies
2:04:16
academics members of the media all have
2:04:18
legitimate and understandable reasons to
2:04:21
one access the Chinese partners and
2:04:23
markets but because of the authoritarian
2:04:27
nature of the Chinese Communist Party
2:04:29
China has immense power over those same
2:04:31
partners and markets so China will
2:04:34
sometimes start by trying to influence
2:04:36
the American official overtly and
2:04:38
directly China might openly warn that if
2:04:41
the American official goes ahead and
2:04:42
takes that trip to Taiwan China will
2:04:45
take it out on a company from that
2:04:47
officials home state by withholding the
2:04:49
company's license to manufacture in
2:04:51
China that could be economically ruinous
2:04:55
for the company would directly pressure
2:04:56
the American official to alter his
2:04:58
travel plans
2:04:59
and the official would know that China
2:05:02
was trying to influence him yeah I'll do
2:05:05
the translation and he keeps saying
2:05:08
China which is interesting because of
2:05:10
course it's really the Chinese Communist
2:05:12
Party but yeah I want to stop because
2:05:15
there's something I did leave out and I
2:05:17
noticed this and this is done on he
2:05:20
already covered this and this was done
2:05:22
by other speeches I've seen they it's
2:05:25
almost like a little rote thing and they
2:05:26
say I am NOT talking about China I'm not
2:05:29
talking about the Chinese people I'm not
2:05:31
talking about Chinese Americans I'm only
2:05:33
talking about this the Chinese Communist
2:05:35
Party and then he but he uses the word
2:05:38
China but we already know I'm listening
2:05:40
earlier that he's really talking about
2:05:41
the CCP so he can't call him on that
2:05:43
okay
2:05:45
what I was going to say is a better
2:05:47
example would have been hey you remember
2:05:49
when China made LeBron James their bitch
2:05:54
that's the only example you need to hear
2:05:58
yeah that that was it he actually goes
2:06:01
on this is a clip I cut it Louis sure
2:06:04
cuz a guy he goes on forever taking it
2:06:06
to the next extreme he says the next
2:06:08
thing you know if that doesn't work then
2:06:10
he they bring in their influencers
2:06:11
apparently like maybe the guy's uncle
2:06:14
EIU maybe at this Chinese thing and that
2:06:16
he's really stressing in in the overall
2:06:20
speech the middle men these are them
2:06:22
Inbetweeners the guys that are just hey
2:06:25
Bill how you do oh yeah I think we
2:06:26
should do with China's Ron all you
2:06:27
shouldn't go there did these people that
2:06:30
are your friends and it's like a it's
2:06:32
almost very similar to what they was
2:06:35
going on in the 50s with the fellow
2:06:37
travelers
2:06:38
you know these yes that were
2:06:39
representing the Russian communists but
2:06:42
they didn't seem that they were and they
2:06:44
would deny it if he asked I'm insulted
2:06:46
I'm a little pissed off about all this
2:06:48
Here I am the pod father re-accredited
2:06:52
on the Joe Rogan show where is what
2:06:56
where's at least attempt to bribe me
2:07:00
nothing of Chinese hate podcasts like
2:07:05
not even an offer not even a hooker
2:07:08
nothing
2:07:13
to taste no hookers no blow where are
2:07:18
you China I'm waiting I'm ready I'm the
2:07:20
pod father I have influence fine word
2:07:24
with this would be part six is talking
2:07:28
about fox hunt which is something we
2:07:29
have talked about on the show and rate
2:07:31
it talks about it'll yuri introduces it
2:07:34
and then he has a question and answer
2:07:36
where he talks about some more that'll
2:07:37
be our last clip since 2014 chinese
2:07:41
general secretary Xi Jinping has
2:07:43
spearheaded a program known as fox hunt
2:07:46
china describes fox hunt as some kind of
2:07:49
international anti-corruption campaign
2:07:51
it is not instead fox hunt is a sweeping
2:07:56
bid by general secretary Xi to target
2:07:59
Chinese nationals whom he sees as
2:08:01
threats and who live outside of China
2:08:03
across the world we're talking about
2:08:05
political rivals dissidents and critics
2:08:08
seeking to expose China's extensive
2:08:12
human rights violations hundreds of
2:08:14
these fox hunt victims that they target
2:08:17
live right here in the United States and
2:08:19
many are American citizens for green
2:08:21
card holders the Chinese government
2:08:24
wants to force them to return to China
2:08:26
and China's tactics to accomplish that
2:08:28
are shocking for example when it
2:08:31
couldn't locate one fox hunt target the
2:08:33
Chinese government sent an emissary to
2:08:35
visit the targets family here in the
2:08:37
United States it's a message they said
2:08:40
to pass on the target had two options
2:08:43
returned to China promptly or commit
2:08:46
suicide what happens when fox hunt
2:08:48
targets refused to return to China in
2:08:51
the past their family members both here
2:08:53
in the United States and in China have
2:08:55
been threatened and coerced and those
2:08:57
back in China have even been arrested
2:08:59
for leverage I will take this
2:09:02
opportunity to note that if you believe
2:09:05
the Chinese government is targeting you
2:09:07
the juror a potential foxhunt victim
2:09:10
please reach out to your local FBI field
2:09:12
office and if you want to be a fox on
2:09:15
victim can we also reach out Wow now
2:09:20
this is interesting because this
2:09:22
reflects what the m5m has done when they
2:09:25
give us a picture of the
2:09:27
cccp which is that she is supposedly
2:09:30
cracking down on corruption and the
2:09:33
bureaucratic corruption all the rest of
2:09:35
it and foxhunt is is a screw as a
2:09:38
smokescreen and it's never really
2:09:40
discussed in the fact that it's trying
2:09:42
to just you know shut people up and you
2:09:45
know get them back to China if they can
2:09:48
so they can arrest them or whatever and
2:09:51
this explained a little more in this
2:09:53
next clip which is the would he sat down
2:09:56
with the Hudson Institute guy and they
2:09:59
had a little chat
2:10:00
after the speech and a question came up
2:10:04
about Fox and I thought it was a good
2:10:06
way to finish this well it turns of the
2:10:08
prevalence of the Fox on efforts I think
2:10:11
we've seen hundreds just here in the
2:10:13
United States hundreds of you could call
2:10:16
them targets you could call them victims
2:10:18
frankly hundreds of individuals that the
2:10:22
Chinese government is trying to to reach
2:10:24
and coerce it also is happening as I
2:10:28
said in my speech in other countries to
2:10:31
them in terms of the tactics it's a
2:10:35
variety of means of coercion we've had
2:10:38
situations where you know they show up
2:10:43
and make comments about you know their
2:10:45
family members back home in China in a
2:10:49
way that it's pretty unmistakably
2:10:51
threatening yeah but it's you know if
2:10:55
you use your imagination you're not
2:10:57
going to be far off and have we been
2:10:59
working with other governments to try to
2:11:01
counter this again from the readers and
2:11:04
the Watchers well we certainly have
2:11:05
worked with with a lot of our good
2:11:08
foreign partners to compare notes best
2:11:12
practices and so forth to try to combat
2:11:15
the foxhunt threat but there's another
2:11:19
part of coordination that's important
2:11:21
here I mean at one level there is a
2:11:24
established means there are established
2:11:27
processes for foreign law enforcement to
2:11:31
cooperate with each other right
2:11:33
legitimate foreign cooperation happens
2:11:36
all the time all over the world and
2:11:38
there's a way you do that and you
2:11:40
coordinate with law enforcement in the
2:11:42
country that the person is in that's not
2:11:45
what fox hunt is these people are
2:11:47
essentially engaged in rogue law
2:11:49
enforcement unsanctioned uncoordinated
2:11:52
with us law enforcement here in the
2:11:54
United States and that really exposes
2:11:57
what this is really about which is
2:11:59
suppressing dissent and trying to
2:12:02
pressure dissidents and critics yeah and
2:12:07
CCP or Chinese police coming over here
2:12:11
sure sure this is so wrong in so many
2:12:20
ways I'm glad we have an enemy though
2:12:25
it's good to have one it's I like this
2:12:28
enemy better than you know um Taliban or
2:12:33
al-qaeda or Isis oh yeah those guys are
2:12:39
these what's happened here over these
2:12:42
guys make these guys are rough
2:12:44
make them look like little training
2:12:46
wheels rays of cookies a couple of other
2:12:49
CCP items Pope Francis on Sunday I guess
2:12:56
was Sunday had a gave an Angelus which
2:13:02
is you know it's a little thing you say
2:13:06
like this is coming from from from God's
2:13:09
mouth to to my mouth to your ears
2:13:13
interestingly someone who had a an
2:13:18
embargoed version of it noticed that the
2:13:23
Pope did not were actually removed the
2:13:26
entire 150 word paragraph about Hong
2:13:30
Kong what's going on right now remember
2:13:34
that explain this okay so you have to
2:13:37
remember in in a context of a couple
2:13:40
shows ago that there is that we had the
2:13:43
China expert who said that the the CCP
2:13:46
has been giving the Vatican two billion
2:13:49
dollars a year and the two billion is
2:13:51
mainly do not make any waves about
2:13:54
to let them create some fake Catholicism
2:14:01
in China that is not Catholicism
2:14:04
meanwhile driving everybody underground
2:14:06
basically shut up and play along which
2:14:08
is why this guy is Pope in the first
2:14:10
place because we know he's a damn shill
2:14:12
and I said damn on purpose so the Pope
2:14:17
had written this whole Angelus to
2:14:20
deliver then when he delivered it he
2:14:23
left out the 150 words about hong kong
2:14:26
and how that's all messed up there
2:14:30
because he's convenient that's one way
2:14:35
to look at it or holy crap corrupt
2:14:41
well I've also hopes gotta go here's
2:14:46
here's a serious question why is it this
2:14:51
is not about the CCP why is it the
2:14:53
Chinese always seem to be obsessed with
2:14:58
consuming weird animals that make their
2:15:00
penis bringer bigger what is what is
2:15:03
this obsession
2:15:05
the Japanese have this - oh the I guess
2:15:08
they do what they do rhino horn or
2:15:10
whatever
2:15:11
well there's if you go to the thing you
2:15:14
learned a little bit about this when
2:15:15
you're in Taiwan and go to snake alley
2:15:17
hmm and you get a lecture about some of
2:15:21
the people that are partaking in the
2:15:23
imbibing of crazy crazy it was crazy I
2:15:28
want to play a little aside here just to
2:15:31
mention it because we don't talk about
2:15:32
him on the show we don't clip him so I
2:15:35
thought we'd clip him this for just once
2:15:37
okay Stephen Mullin you ah mister mister
2:15:42
I've been D platform from everything now
2:15:44
yeah I want to play this and I have a
2:15:46
comment the business to fan Molyneux as
2:15:49
you may have heard 14 years of my life
2:15:53
thousands of videos billions of comments
2:15:56
hundreds of millions of views and nearly
2:15:58
a million subscribers has been destroyed
2:16:01
has been erased from YouTube the
2:16:04
accusation is the usual one that I'm
2:16:05
four months and hatred and so on which
2:16:07
is not true at all I have consistently
2:16:10
promulgated the non-aggression principle
2:16:12
and called the reason and evidence as
2:16:14
the methodology by which we can resolve
2:16:16
social disputes and differences okay so
2:16:20
he's went on and on a plug for some
2:16:23
patreon page of something yes now he I
2:16:26
don't know about you now he's he's a
2:16:30
thousand videos have been lost forever
2:16:32
yeah I guess he didn't save him but I
2:16:36
think maybe more important is the
2:16:37
comments on the YouTube you know I
2:16:39
understand that's not what he said he
2:16:41
said a thousand videos and has been lost
2:16:44
forever and I'm thinking you don't you
2:16:48
have to have the video on your person at
2:16:51
one point because you have to upload
2:16:54
so is he uploading his videos and then
2:16:57
erasing them from his own machines you
2:17:00
should ask leaving it up to YouTube to
2:17:02
one archivist as you send him a tweet
2:17:05
and ask him oh I'm sorry you can't you
2:17:09
know just a question that came to mind
2:17:11
cuz it doesn't make sense to me but no I
2:17:12
think he's making a very sad appeal when
2:17:16
he was demonetized or whatever
2:17:19
initially he's like oh it's okay I don't
2:17:21
mind
2:17:22
Papa and you just said he was pitching a
2:17:25
patreon so I think he's laying it on
2:17:26
thick if he doesn't have copies of what
2:17:28
he posted on YouTube then mr.
2:17:31
intellectual is an idiot come on cuz
2:17:34
ridiculous I mean even I have copies but
2:17:38
also the nature of our value for value
2:17:41
system makes it so beautiful is we don't
2:17:43
give a crap how many copies are out
2:17:45
there
2:17:45
then there's oh we have low vert low res
2:17:49
versions for people in countries with no
2:17:51
with very poor bandwidth that started
2:17:53
with Australia actually 10 to 12 years
2:17:56
ago
2:17:56
we've got torrent versions as versions
2:17:58
on YouTube they're versions on YouTube
2:18:00
with with the with transcripts it's all
2:18:03
over the place I wonder if that low
2:18:06
frequent at low bandwidth still around
2:18:09
still I think it is I think it is and by
2:18:13
its very nature podcasting creates
2:18:17
millions of copies of each show there
2:18:21
are millions of people who have show
2:18:25
1257 on a device somewhere yeah that's
2:18:29
the view that's the hidden gem of it so
2:18:33
I feel bad for him but I got very bored
2:18:36
of watching him probably eight years ago
2:18:38
I just didn't appeal to me when he was
2:18:43
the one of the originals at sticking his
2:18:46
head in front of a camera and then
2:18:47
blasting you about what you know then he
2:18:49
was good it was very good he would he
2:18:51
had talent yes but I don't know I don't
2:18:54
know I grabbed and really been watching
2:18:56
him of late and he's brought it off his
2:18:57
materials dropped off I'm not sure
2:18:59
there's that there is another podcast I
2:19:01
want to discuss and I feel bad about
2:19:05
even doing this segment if you don't
2:19:06
mind
2:19:07
okay all right this is the useful idiots
2:19:12
podcast with one of our heroes in terms
2:19:16
of his ability to put things together in
2:19:19
a progressive put things together and in
2:19:22
a very concise and meaningful way yes I
2:19:24
mean oh yes Matt Taibbi who brought us a
2:19:29
nice article about the white fragility
2:19:33
book which I'm glad we slammed before he
2:19:35
came out with that yeah and so he's
2:19:39
about that but he's also in this so he's
2:19:41
got this guy Adolph read a retired
2:19:43
professor from Princeton right they were
2:19:45
one of the big schools and he's on and
2:19:48
he's a couple of crazy things and he's
2:19:50
and his partner on this is Katie helper
2:19:52
and so I'm gonna play the two clips that
2:19:55
I think they some one of these two
2:19:57
should have said something to Adolf read
2:19:59
about his about his nuttiness and then
2:20:04
after those two clips are done I want to
2:20:06
play what I think I unfortunately I'm
2:20:08
gonna have to say that Matt Taibbi is a
2:20:12
bully I'm gonna prove it oh he does
2:20:16
something that I've tried to do with you
2:20:18
a couple of times and I feel bad
2:20:20
listening to him actually accomplish it
2:20:22
but I wouldn't have I would not have let
2:20:26
it I would have not hung you out to dry
2:20:27
like he does with his partner here oh my
2:20:31
goodness that's the third clip wow
2:20:34
you're gonna have I'll explain it to me
2:20:36
first we got to start with these this is
2:20:38
Adolph read part 1 this is the setup you
2:20:42
have to know listen carefully I think
2:20:44
we're kind of screwed either way frankly
2:20:46
right if if Trump wins or stays in
2:20:53
office you might come and kill us I'm
2:20:55
just hoping that those kids who post
2:20:58
post all their wild stuff on Instagram
2:21:01
or tweeted all the time we'll go in the
2:21:03
first wave so that some of the rest of
2:21:05
us will have time to grab a toothbrush
2:21:07
we head to Canada right okay this is an
2:21:11
anti-trump er who was gonna move to
2:21:14
Canada when Trombley he's a curious guy
2:21:16
cause he's the anti BLM he's very he has
2:21:19
a lot of
2:21:21
Adolphe what adolf is the issue he's a
2:21:24
black guy you can't tell it from his
2:21:26
voice mm-hmm but he he's got a lot of
2:21:31
good analysis but then he throws this
2:21:33
out of the blue this we got a head to
2:21:35
get you they're gonna kill me which is
2:21:37
kind of like the joke clip I had from my
2:21:39
Scott Adams right said by oculus right
2:21:42
right so somebody's gonna kill somebody
2:21:44
well this is Trump and Trump people
2:21:46
because he's black and they're gonna
2:21:47
kill him that that's now what I
2:21:48
understand yes you got that right so
2:21:51
this was but ten minutes later in the
2:21:54
same interview he doubles down yeah it
2:21:57
is sorry
2:21:58
yeah short I'm not totally joking when I
2:22:02
say that I think Trump Trump will kill
2:22:05
us right I mean you would like to and
2:22:07
from that perspective I think that most
2:22:09
we can hope for from a Democratic
2:22:11
administration is sometime right right I
2:22:15
mean buying buying buying some time a
2:22:18
Supreme Court appointment or two it's
2:22:20
not terrible some better appointments on
2:22:24
the National Labor Relations Board right
2:22:26
some is something right right right but
2:22:30
the problem is you know we didn't elect
2:22:34
our way into this situation and we're
2:22:36
not gonna like the way out of it and we
2:22:37
have to finally act like a left that
2:22:44
understands organizing as being
2:22:47
something different from event planning
2:22:50
that's a good luck is a good line but
2:22:54
he's rational rational resource and
2:22:56
neither Taibbi or helper say anything
2:23:02
about this this insanity it's insane to
2:23:06
think that but okay we'll let that slide
2:23:09
so meanwhile they finish up with the guy
2:23:11
and they wrap it Nate and Taibbi
2:23:13
reflects on the fact that at the
2:23:15
beginning of the interviews I don't have
2:23:17
on here
2:23:18
they had Taibbi and Reid had a talked
2:23:22
about sports and North Carolina
2:23:24
basketball and it Manti he's obviously a
2:23:27
guy who likes sports he talks about
2:23:29
sports he knows a lot about suppose he's
2:23:30
one of those guys I could talk to him
2:23:32
I'm sure about a lot of stuff like this
2:23:34
helper is kind of like you doesn't know
2:23:37
anything about sports whatsoever but in
2:23:40
this case Taibbi starts to feet are some
2:23:44
bogus information and instead of telling
2:23:47
her recognizing it like you would by the
2:23:50
way some of the stupidity of it she buys
2:23:54
into it and far as I'm concerned ruins
2:23:56
her reputation as a podcast analyst
2:24:00
somebody does analyze this news from it
2:24:02
she's a lefty and she she is takes it in
2:24:05
hook line and sinker and believes it she
2:24:08
shows that she's gullible as hell and
2:24:11
Taibbi
2:24:12
stretches this out this is actually a
2:24:14
pretty long painful clip and then at the
2:24:17
very end he never says I was just
2:24:18
kidding you know no they just end the
2:24:20
show and I don't know what happens after
2:24:22
that when she finally finds out that
2:24:24
he's full of crap it will let's listen
2:24:27
how this unfolds duke-carolina games but
2:24:37
by the way since we have you on camera I
2:24:39
got to ask you what's your what's your
2:24:40
take on the camp Newton situation Cam
2:24:42
Newton Cam Newton good old Cam Newton is
2:24:49
a very good football player I've known
2:24:57
my bones football player Cam Newton's a
2:25:03
football player and the big news of
2:25:04
course is that he just replaced Tom
2:25:07
Brady Matt really wants to humiliate me
2:25:18
as if anyone thinks I'm really good
2:25:19
sports okay person so so cam knew and of
2:25:23
course of course as everyone knows that
2:25:25
wait a minute so she just said I don't
2:25:28
know about it whatever and now she's
2:25:30
gonna tell us about it because she can
2:25:31
read it from Wikipedia or something
2:25:34
well she sees a little bit on the screen
2:25:36
and now she's now she is basically
2:25:38
winging it she's
2:25:39
she's she's acting like a 12 year old
2:25:42
who's answering you could instead of
2:25:44
saying I don't know anything at you what
2:25:45
she should have done I don't know
2:25:46
anything about this I don't like
2:25:48
football I don't follow it she can say I
2:25:50
don't like it a lot of people don't like
2:25:52
football and I don't care I don't care
2:25:54
about Cam Newton weathers here they're
2:25:57
next she calls Cam Newton the new coach
2:25:59
doesn't know what a quarterback is then
2:26:02
now then it goes off the rails with
2:26:06
insanity and this woman should check
2:26:08
herself so so can you and of course of
2:26:12
course as everyone knows the great
2:26:14
football player has just replaced has
2:26:16
just replaced Tom Brady as the coach of
2:26:20
the football team my memory the
2:26:27
Cleveland unicorns there's actually a
2:26:35
team called unicorns unicorns yeah
2:26:38
really cool like it's not very I feel
2:26:42
like it's very feminized for better or
2:26:48
for worse and I feel like that it's kind
2:26:51
of it's a very aggressive uniform like a
2:26:59
ram kind of one exactly kind of runs
2:27:06
down the top of the helmet yeah it's not
2:27:09
like that's what I was thinking a cutesy
2:27:12
rainbowy I thought it was very like no
2:27:14
you know like so over it's basically
2:27:21
it's a menacing yeah I mean Cleveland
2:27:31
the Cleveland unicorns they they're
2:27:33
known for being really
2:27:36
they've sharpened over the years their
2:27:41
technique well they're known for their
2:27:43
their powerful ground ground assault
2:27:45
yeah as opposed to the aerial
2:27:47
bombardments that's right yeah the New
2:27:49
York Giants are known for right
2:27:53
yes exactly did he ever let her off the
2:27:57
hook from this did he ever tell her and
2:27:59
that you heard on the show no guys I was
2:28:03
very disappointed I love Matt Taibbi I
2:28:05
love his writing I clipped him today
2:28:07
about the white fragility book when she
2:28:11
took down this is very mean and it's
2:28:13
very misogynistic and it's on it's not a
2:28:16
sub I don't know if they're really
2:28:17
colleagues or if this if he hates her
2:28:20
secretly I don't know if they're in
2:28:21
business together or she paid by rolling
2:28:24
stock now there's just separate reactors
2:28:26
working for rolling stone okay so he's
2:28:28
been he's been okay and then I might
2:28:30
have to take it back but still he's
2:28:32
passive-aggressive because he's being
2:28:34
forced to do this he does not want to
2:28:36
use those he's being forced to do I'll
2:28:37
take it back but he should be a man and
2:28:40
step away from rolling stone well it was
2:28:43
very disappointing I don't go as far as
2:28:45
you do but I was very disappointed that
2:28:47
he did this it was it was the it was the
2:28:51
little boy in the sixth grade dipping
2:28:54
the girls inkwell yeah yeah which is you
2:28:59
know which is which is okay boomer
2:29:01
something we never should mention yeah
2:29:13
it's an image that's out there and
2:29:15
little boys teasing little girls it's
2:29:17
not an unusual thing and this and he's I
2:29:19
would say he's teasing her to say the
2:29:22
least but this is not the kind of thing
2:29:24
that works no in the sure why you why
2:29:29
you brought this here other than to I
2:29:31
don't know it's because I'm perplexed
2:29:35
that's why it is perplexing I love what
2:29:39
he writes I love his attitude but that
2:29:42
but he should just if he doesn't want to
2:29:44
do the show then don't do the show this
2:29:48
is the properties compromise comfortable
2:29:50
as a podcaster let's start with that
2:29:51
then he shouldn't do podcasts right just
2:29:53
go right but now no no I'm telling you
2:29:56
there's something going on with him he
2:29:59
certainly didn't get any money from that
2:30:00
the intercept thing he bailed out of
2:30:02
that I think he left with nothing
2:30:05
I wouldn't surprise me maybe he's got a
2:30:07
crush on this girl I don't know well it
2:30:10
has to be steamed up because as far as
2:30:12
I'm concerned I think it hurt his
2:30:14
reputation as a objective performer
2:30:17
instead of a bullshit artist now I think
2:30:19
it really hurt her because it was like
2:30:21
made her look like okay she doesn't know
2:30:23
what she's just gonna make it up if she
2:30:25
doesn't know okay you've made your point
2:30:26
I let's get back to some news and since
2:30:30
you steered us in the in this direction
2:30:32
I will discuss some sports news Oh is
2:30:36
the black national anthem coming up
2:30:40
being played before the before the NFL
2:30:43
football games although apparently only
2:30:45
the first week why do all of them
2:30:47
because I guess they're insincere about
2:30:50
black lies but okay and thank goodness
2:30:54
Jason Whitlock who I have brought to the
2:30:57
show many times has something smart to
2:30:59
say about how dumb this is I think it's
2:31:02
really about a lack of leadership and
2:31:04
just a failure of men to stand up and
2:31:08
stand on the principles that they say
2:31:11
they believe them and so when I look at
2:31:14
what the NFL is doing this goes against
2:31:17
every value that the NFL has built
2:31:19
itself on professional sports have built
2:31:22
themselves on a celebration of Americana
2:31:24
and the ideals and values that best
2:31:26
exemplify America they built themselves
2:31:29
on unity and unifying the country if the
2:31:32
NFL starts out its season with everyone
2:31:35
standing for lift every voice and sing
2:31:37
the black national anthem and then
2:31:40
virtually everyone on the field taking a
2:31:42
knee when that starts the NFL will run
2:31:47
off a nice fat chunk of its audience and
2:31:51
we'll never be seen the same again
2:31:53
because of the failure of leadership
2:31:55
throughout the NFL there's no way you
2:31:58
can do any homework on black lives
2:32:00
matters and not see that it's a Marxist
2:32:04
or a political organization it's not
2:32:06
about black death it's not about black
2:32:08
men it is a political move it's a
2:32:11
communist political move if for those
2:32:14
people that stand on religious values
2:32:16
and this is where I say just the failure
2:32:18
men I've seen many of these guys they
2:32:21
claimed their Christianity and their
2:32:22
religious beliefs do they understand
2:32:25
black lives matter communist Marxism is
2:32:27
anti religious this is a historic
2:32:30
failure of men and leadership
2:32:33
this is cowardice at its highest level
2:32:36
this is the NFL jumping the shark and
2:32:39
saying we've quit being who we said we
2:32:42
are we're now something else because our
2:32:44
money's on the line and we don't stand
2:32:47
for the values we said we stood for
2:32:49
there you go that is going to backfire
2:32:52
on the NFL so bad he's dead right I
2:32:58
think he's right that's what happens
2:33:00
that's what the plan is I don't know
2:33:04
what they will have to change something
2:33:06
the have to do something about that this
2:33:09
is the what I think he was on Don Lemon
2:33:12
on Don Lemon shut him down when he said
2:33:14
there was a communist operation no I
2:33:16
think that wasn't that Terry uh I could
2:33:19
have been a different guy that non lemon
2:33:21
shut down yeah well you know what that
2:33:23
stuff is like that's what right
2:33:25
Twitter's is tweeting so I don't think
2:33:27
it's important to bring to our show it's
2:33:29
like yeah we've seen Don Lemon I mean
2:33:32
once something goes viral like that I'm
2:33:33
not even interested anymore what I am
2:33:35
interested a lemon man who might
2:33:37
understand Don Lemon oh well the West
2:33:39
wait wait oh yeah we're sports I hope no
2:33:44
I was just gonna mention you said Don
2:33:46
Lemon Shep Smith is returning to
2:33:48
television
2:33:49
remember Shepard Smith he was the as we
2:33:51
predicted he had a deal yeah and do you
2:33:54
know where he's coming back light was
2:33:56
guessing NBC yeah except he'll start
2:33:58
with a primetime show on CNBC which is
2:34:04
her to do is see where's he fit in to
2:34:06
CNBC as a financial network yeah at
2:34:11
night after Kramer
2:34:14
it's either shark tank see there's no
2:34:17
programming so it's going they are going
2:34:19
to try and blanket this as another show
2:34:22
they've got joy Reid now she's been
2:34:24
given a 7 PS n MSNBC right but she's yes
2:34:28
but just think of the other yeah you
2:34:29
said see Andy's
2:34:30
but they have both then it's all NBC
2:34:33
properties he will not be doing a fine
2:34:35
dad
2:34:36
so that's what I'm saying is they had
2:34:38
they're trying to blanket it more
2:34:39
towards all the time
2:34:43
MTA T MTA those are gonna run oh they
2:34:49
don't have any you right there's no
2:34:51
perfect those are that what is that's it
2:34:55
that's the old Miss Matthews slot yes
2:34:59
yes yes yes yes so they gave that to joy
2:35:01
read which and she would she'll drop the
2:35:03
ball and nobody likes joy read so she's
2:35:06
not gonna pick up any and so they put
2:35:08
him in at CNBC to try to pick up I don't
2:35:10
know who they're whatever I don't watch
2:35:12
CNBC after them well after the last
2:35:14
closing bell boom if they give shark
2:35:18
tank is the lead-in they'll probably get
2:35:20
something shark tank is pretty well over
2:35:22
there doesn't matter he's probably on
2:35:25
deck for Brian and Williams Brian
2:35:26
Williams is out
2:35:28
I'm telling you that guy's guy he should
2:35:30
have been out this is the farm team
2:35:32
they're replacing him and I think Shep
2:35:34
Smith will be really good you know he'll
2:35:37
be very credible for MSNBC because he
2:35:40
has that right-wing stingy Fox so I
2:35:42
think that's pretty good
2:35:43
let's just look at some quick noodle gun
2:35:45
examples so we understand what is
2:35:49
happening with this politically correct
2:35:52
culture the revolution which is being
2:35:55
funded by corporate America and let's
2:35:59
see who's in trouble oh yes
2:36:02
Ford employees are very angry and they
2:36:06
look like they might take some action do
2:36:08
you know why black lives matter I don't
2:36:15
know who Lowe's they do not agree with
2:36:19
Ford producing cop cars so they're not
2:36:23
[Music]
2:36:26
really good one isn't it how do you I
2:36:34
need my noodle gun effect
2:36:40
now one other interesting with a look
2:36:43
can i before you go on with this I have
2:36:45
another comment when evergreen had a
2:36:49
strike against the one of the you know
2:36:52
there's professors there's some other
2:36:54
guys that got kicked out of the school
2:36:55
evergreen at that but when the kids said
2:36:58
no we have to have this special day and
2:37:00
we're protesting and evergreen which is
2:37:04
a cheap place to go and gives it with
2:37:06
the quality education they should have
2:37:09
expelled those kids immediately yes of
2:37:13
course
2:37:14
Ford should fire these employees
2:37:16
immediately you've got to get these
2:37:18
people out of your company as fast as
2:37:22
you can and people just well I don't
2:37:24
know let's just do what they say I mean
2:37:26
the noodle gun got the noodle boy is
2:37:28
that the managers yeah yes of course in
2:37:34
Amsterdam in in the yard on a very
2:37:41
famous neighborhood I'd I'd live very
2:37:43
closely he lived in it for a number of
2:37:44
years there's a very famous head
2:37:48
sculpted head that is outside what used
2:37:51
to be in a patek hurry because I was I'm
2:37:53
saying it right like a drugstore you go
2:37:55
get your pharmacy a patek hurry apakah
2:38:02
theri thank you yes I can't say not to
2:38:04
carry apothecary I can't say it because
2:38:06
I grew up saying up or take which is the
2:38:08
Dutch version is the big deal yes thank
2:38:12
you try to store drugstore it's called
2:38:15
the gaper of Hiram's throught number
2:38:17
seven and it's been there for hundreds
2:38:21
of hundreds of years and it represents
2:38:24
an Arabian medicine man who had you know
2:38:28
the from the old scripture this is the
2:38:30
Arabian medicine man and and so it was
2:38:33
used as a marketing tool for the a
2:38:37
pocket f but that the theory that used
2:38:38
to be there of course it's it's called
2:38:43
the gaper because the copper because its
2:38:47
mouth is the gate like ba you can even
2:38:49
look it up
2:38:50
eg AP er de newer g AP er of course it
2:38:55
looks like a blackface african-american
2:38:59
with red lips and earrings and so it has
2:39:02
to go even though it has never
2:39:05
represented that it has nothing to do
2:39:08
with you should look at it the gape at
2:39:10
the cape it's not by the way do not
2:39:13
mistake that with goatse it's okay P
2:39:16
they selling again a de space GA p er is
2:39:22
that should hit just by that the fapri
2:39:23
and then look at the look at the
2:39:26
pictures oh yeah it pops up right away
2:39:29
from me so you should see it oh yeah oh
2:39:33
yeah so that's good that's racist Tracy
2:39:37
I see two of them I see actually three
2:39:39
of them I see one within there although
2:39:40
head well they're all over the place
2:39:41
they're all over the countries like a
2:39:44
major thing but this is the first one to
2:39:45
go so of course they're all gonna go
2:39:49
even a black person does it matter well
2:39:54
I guess not when they take down the elk
2:39:57
hey they also burned Melania statue in
2:40:01
Lithuania or wherever she's from why
2:40:06
because she's hateful no the why is why
2:40:09
does she have a statue because that's
2:40:11
where she's from was it no wait it's the
2:40:13
only see if I can find it Slovenia what
2:40:17
am I saying Slovenia US First Lady
2:40:19
Melania Trump statue a wooden statue of
2:40:21
her looking out over the fields where
2:40:23
she's from they burned her
2:40:24
they burned her just a bit offbeat
2:40:29
question hmm what does this guy have
2:40:32
this crazy look on his face I don't know
2:40:36
the answer to that you should probably
2:40:37
look into the history of the caper maybe
2:40:39
there's something coming at him he's
2:40:40
like wow by a rhino it's about right
2:40:48
it's about right
2:40:51
kudos to Lou Dobbs who I think had the
2:40:56
best 16 second comment of the week when
2:40:59
it comes to canceled culture black lives
2:41:02
matter and
2:41:03
our noodle gun breaking news now the
2:41:05
folks at the Washington Post running an
2:41:08
op-ed it's titled quote both namesakes
2:41:12
of Washington and Lee University
2:41:14
perpetrated racial terror the school
2:41:17
should be renamed again this from the
2:41:19
Washington Post it's so hilarious
2:41:28
you can't that was a good that
2:41:30
definitely Scott my make guys gonna give
2:41:32
you a clip of the day for digging that
2:41:33
up well I got I got very lucky on that
2:41:36
one but I appreciate everything we have
2:41:47
the best producers and stop giving me
2:41:50
stuff a couple years ago now yours
2:41:52
exclusive I've been his stack II guess
2:41:54
why should get a room I've been his boy
2:41:56
for several years ever since I think it
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was I'm not gonna you know if that's
2:42:01
between you and stick I have nothing to
2:42:03
do with your personal issues stack and I
2:42:06
have a wonderful producer producer
2:42:08
relationship yeah whatever you say one
2:42:13
more before we take a break so we had
2:42:16
the big meeting the big meeting stop
2:42:18
hate for profit
2:42:19
dad boycott they all went to the face
2:42:21
bag headquarters to sit down with Mark
2:42:23
and what's-her-name leaning forward to
2:42:28
name Sheryl Sheryl Sandberg Errol and
2:42:30
leading this charge cuz you know at the
2:42:33
bottom of the end it's the Jolly Green
2:42:35
giant's what is their name sleeping
2:42:37
giants there they were there and all
2:42:40
these different people but it appears
2:42:42
leading the charge and again it doesn't
2:42:45
really hurt Facebook that much we've
2:42:46
learned these big brands don't want to
2:42:48
advertise but this does show you kind of
2:42:51
the state of affairs as it is the
2:42:53
anti-defamation league who was truly
2:42:56
leading this stop hate for trough
2:42:59
for-profit ad boycott against the face
2:43:02
bags and it's worth listening to the
2:43:06
spokes hall talk about the meeting I
2:43:08
think the meeting was disappointing to
2:43:11
say the least
2:43:12
you know we had laid out an agenda weeks
2:43:14
ago
2:43:15
our recommendations are simple and
2:43:18
straightforward and transparent they've
2:43:20
been published on our website since
2:43:21
mid-june Facebook asked us for this
2:43:24
meeting and we expected them to share
2:43:26
details and timeframes to execute on
2:43:29
those recommendations instead of we
2:43:31
didn't get any details me to get any
2:43:33
timeframes no commitments no outcomes
2:43:36
like instituting real civil rights
2:43:38
leadership in the c-suite of the company
2:43:40
so these issues are strategically
2:43:42
integrated across we need a chief civil
2:43:45
rights officer at Facebook this is
2:43:46
fantastic what they're asking for the
2:43:48
company so these issues are
2:43:50
strategically integrated across the
2:43:51
organization we want transparent regular
2:43:55
independent audits of hate content on
2:43:57
the platform and this is really critical
2:43:59
they will report on how much hate
2:44:01
content and taken off but all it is is a
2:44:04
numerator with no denominator with no
2:44:06
independent verification so we have
2:44:09
little evidence of what progress they're
2:44:10
really making and I will say that they
2:44:12
shared with us today something we've
2:44:14
heard before that there are AI you know
2:44:17
eliminates 89% of the hate content on
2:44:19
their platform but to be really honest
2:44:21
with you Ford Motor Company one of the
2:44:24
participants in stopping for-profit they
2:44:26
can't say 89% of our seat belts works
2:44:28
this is where Facebook is screwed itself
2:44:32
they had all they tested suck of asar
2:44:36
was testifying before Congress you can't
2:44:46
find hate you little dweeb defining and
2:44:50
finding hate with artificial
2:44:52
intelligence is too subjective
2:44:55
everything is hate these days there's no
2:44:58
way you can do it and now the
2:44:59
anti-defamation league is waiting for
2:45:02
you to fill in the other 13% that you
2:45:04
can't change which you can never change
2:45:06
it's impossible but look this is a red
2:45:09
herring at best and really misleading at
2:45:11
worst for starters 89% of what they
2:45:14
define is problematic
2:45:16
that's how big
2:45:17
but I don't want Mark Zuckerberg tell me
2:45:20
what's in balance or out of bounds we
2:45:22
want the anti-defamation league to tell
2:45:24
us apparently the fact of the matter is
2:45:26
Facebook should do better than
2:45:28
eighty-nine percent in the same way all
2:45:30
of their businesses all their
2:45:31
advertisers know that when it comes to
2:45:33
fighting hey you gotta be a hundred
2:45:36
percent they're toast there's no way
2:45:40
that can ever be most you can't you
2:45:42
can't do you can't you can even
2:45:45
determine what hate is if it would there
2:45:47
be an actual law against it if you could
2:45:49
you can't determine fate well whose
2:45:53
toast again let's hear this again I want
2:45:55
to hear this again whose toast
2:45:57
Zuckerberg sucka Wasser his toast
2:46:01
someone's gonna have to step down when
2:46:03
they can't do it they want they want the
2:46:05
civil rights person in the c-suite so
2:46:09
you have CEO chief executive officer
2:46:11
chief technology officer chief
2:46:13
operations officer chief civil rights
2:46:15
officer maybe just CRO chief rights
2:46:19
officer but that would conflict with
2:46:20
chief revenue often their officer no no
2:46:24
this is not gonna this won't work out
2:46:25
well I mean sure the company's gonna be
2:46:27
great we'll go on forever but do you
2:46:30
really want the anti-defamation league
2:46:32
yapping at your heels for the rest of
2:46:34
your life no he's gonna have to worm his
2:46:39
way out of this somehow yeah yeah by the
2:46:42
way he speaks fluent Mandarin well you
2:46:47
know there is that element is I didn't
2:46:51
want to say I did not I was not going to
2:46:53
pull the old his wife is probably a spy
2:46:55
for the CCP but now that you mention it
2:46:58
I didn't say anything I just said his
2:47:01
wife uh okay I said it
2:47:04
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2:58:02
like a party and it was a big party at
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the Mid Island meetup we have a report
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I'm gonna throw our resident night
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and meet up sir candid a V I've traveled
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before me and that's invaluable in the
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morning everybody this is Tom I most of
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this Mid Island can the Navy meet up
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it's been a huge success we've just been
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shouting anything we want see with this
2:58:34
sample it's been great a little walk
2:58:36
down the fact still affecting us but
2:58:38
whatever we're all here we're having a
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good time and I want to pass it on to
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that in the morning Matt McDonald's here
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in about ten minutes down the road this
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is Sir really haven't donated enough and
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I just want to say that just Lane
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2:58:55
this is Russ from Arrington I was half
2:58:59
an hour to get here and I'm having a
2:59:01
hell of a good time I have no idea what
2:59:03
these guys are talking about but just
2:59:06
been struck in the mouth at several
2:59:09
times and it feels good
2:59:11
peace and happiness I just figured it
2:59:14
out
2:59:15
I know what part of the big appeal is
2:59:18
with the meetups I think and just
2:59:23
hearing these and every meetup I've been
2:59:25
to is similar when people who don't know
2:59:27
each other but we all have something in
2:59:28
common and we may not all believe the
2:59:32
same thing but I think the secret to the
2:59:35
success of the meetups is that we allow
2:59:38
ourselves to be awkward and clumsy
2:59:43
seriously think about it everyone in
2:59:46
that clip is somehow awkward and clumsy
2:59:47
but the same fun everyone's just kind of
2:59:50
we it's it's some it's a very gracious
2:59:52
type of thing I still can't completely
2:59:55
explain it but with that in mind it's
2:59:58
like everyone can come in and say
3:00:00
something weird or funky or off-color or
3:00:02
whatever it is and it's like it's okay
3:00:04
man we're just the be clumsy be awkward
3:00:06
whatever I know maybe just maybe just me
3:00:08
I thought that was just kind of hit me I
3:00:11
guess you don't know you don't have any
3:00:14
opinion I did I have yes I have no
3:00:18
opinion maybe they may be right I don't
3:00:20
know how I've never thought about it
3:00:21
alright here's the list of meetups
3:00:25
coming for to see tomorrow we have the
3:00:27
Northeast Ohio meet up at 6 o'clock at
3:00:29
the winking lizard never heard the week
3:00:35
actually that will be a deep real a real
3:00:38
bark - Lee Lady of the lake who will be
3:00:44
there at the winking lizard and Earl
3:00:48
walkman and the keeper penance and the
3:00:52
keeper will be there as well
3:00:53
the keeper of Peninsula Ohio I presume
3:00:57
Seattle Washington also a meet-up on
3:00:59
Friday that'll be the lookout Bar and
3:01:00
Grill with Patrick organizing Saturday
3:01:02
and Sunday this is Road America IndyCar
3:01:05
doubleheader we
3:01:07
and you want to meet up at Elkhart Lake
3:01:10
in Wisconsin Todd squid buzz is
3:01:14
organizing that for you
3:01:15
also on Saturday New England sama pool
3:01:18
party 3 p.m. and Pawtucket Rhode Island
3:01:20
were so of my family hails from Lady
3:01:23
butter sir knives Ernesto Hosting July
3:01:26
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I would like to ask you a question
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as you know I never listened to your
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clips when you send them not now that
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keeps it all spontaneous I could not
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however resist noticing that you may
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have clipped the white fragility
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sequence of the week from the New York
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Board of Education is that what I'm
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seeing yeah well yeah there's a lot in
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there there's a lot of clips I would
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actually rather put them off till Sunday
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okay let's do that in hey the Tucker
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Carlson jizz Lane Maxwell stuff oh you
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want to do that now well I would rather
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do that than didn't okay because it's
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very good and I'm glad because I saw him
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like okay because I was gonna clip it
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and I saw them hard to clip very hard to
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see people yelling at each other but
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it's gee I dunno K because it brings out
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yes and there's also some new
3:03:48
terminology coming out and we're hearing
3:03:50
it a lot and it's all gonna be in there
3:03:52
and it's better on Sunday let's do it on
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Sunday that is a great tease and that
3:03:56
way I can also move Kaylee to Sunday Wow
3:04:00
maybe like what a what a Sunday show
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what a Sunday flip in that one I do have
3:04:11
a Kelly and Conway though with a nice so
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that I thought my ball with and we need
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yeah we need a nice so let's hear it
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whoa ka Stacey I got it you played it
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played it whoa I played it
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KC yay what this is this is that wasn't
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it here's ka cya why is Oh
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Moli I use that very rarely part of what
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went wrong you threw away the actual
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rights of Clips I must have clipped a
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wrong waveform because what it is we're
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saying yeah and some very kind of a
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Wimpy voice not dad I don't even know
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where that came from but it must have
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been well that's her that sounds like
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her going whoa
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were you were you drinking the Costco
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warning again when during your clip in
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I'm sorry that's what we've got but yeah
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that is it well let me try and save you
3:05:15
I have one clip left that I wanted to
3:05:19
play which was I'd only found today but
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it was the Flynn family on July 4th 2020
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and the Flynn family some would say a
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great Patriot general Flynn and his
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family took the oath and recited it all
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on camera I shortened it up a little bit
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but what's most important is what he
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says at the end the Constitution of the
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United States the Constitution all these
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foreign and domestic against all enemies
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foreign and I will bear true faith and
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allegiance to the same that I will well
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and faithfully and that will well and
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faithfully discharge the duties of the
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office on which I am about to enter how
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about to enter so help me God oh my god
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where we go one we go all
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where we go one where we go all that's
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cute that's cute on slogan well I wonder
3:06:34
why threw it in there well that's a
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almost a great question almost not quite
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not quite but holy crap I thought that
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was pretty interesting that's it's
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either the troll of the decade or well
3:06:49
it's the troll eyes the troll that's
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what he's doing he's the guy isn't
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having fun at least well thank goodness
3:06:54
oh so just laying Maxwell he knows the
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rest it is it was a surprise that was
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apparently in that by the same district
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where they fired their previous yeah
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they got that guy out first so that he
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couldn't kill her when they put her in
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whatever they were gonna do yeah because
3:07:09
she was in a safe house and she was
3:07:12
surprised that if she was arrested in
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the first place but but but I have a
3:07:17
setup because the the setup is that
3:07:19
apparently there's a nut there's a
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really good report on 60 minutes and 60
3:07:24
minutes doesn't have a lot to go to
3:07:26
reports unless you watch 60 million
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minutes Australia ah yes
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60 minutes Australia is dynamite and
3:07:34
here's a little report which includes an
3:07:38
interview with Maria farmer who was the
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first person that in 1996 reported
3:07:43
everything to the FBI to no avail today
3:07:47
we announced charges against Colleen
3:07:49
Maxwell for helping I'm sorry wrong one
3:07:53
got it Maria went to the FBI it was 1996
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and she was the very first victim to
3:08:00
officially report Jeffrey Epstein
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Engelen Maxwell to the authorities but
3:08:06
in a pattern that would be set in the
3:08:08
decades ahead her complaint was ignored
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they just kept it all quiet put in the
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bottom drawer and they're so dismissive
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that I just felt daunted and I stopped
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but by going to police Maria felt the
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full force of Maxwell's fury terrified
3:08:25
Maria went into hiding and gave up her
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art career what sort of threat so she
3:08:31
made against you originally it started
3:08:33
with things like I'm gonna burn your
3:08:36
arms and then I'm gonna burn your career
3:08:38
and then I'm gonna burn you and the
3:08:40
house you live in and then it was Oh be
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careful crossing a street you know you
3:08:44
can get shot in the back of the head
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they were threats against my life and I
3:08:48
told the FBI this do you reflect on how
3:08:52
different life would be for so many
3:08:54
women today if the FBI had investigated
3:08:59
your complaints in 1996 yeah
3:09:04
yeah I think about it all the time
3:09:07
I do and it hurts a lot and I never had
3:09:10
children because of it as an aside
3:09:17
Maxwell is not charged with sexual abuse
3:09:20
she's charged with trafficking which
3:09:22
makes it even more suspicious who was
3:09:25
this whole thing is suspicious but let's
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listen to Tarka Tucker Carlson which I
3:09:29
don't like clipping and you know we
3:09:30
don't necessarily clip him but I have to
3:09:33
say Tucker Carlson decided to take us
3:09:36
because he doesn't have any sponsors and
3:09:38
he doesn't care hey hey don't talk like
3:09:41
that about my pillow comm so yeah so he
3:09:46
has a scorched-earth policy and see if
3:09:49
you can find one of his targets here as
3:09:52
he goes on this is the first clip and
3:09:54
this is him going on about just just
3:09:57
Layne Maxwell and what's happening and
3:09:59
then he just goes after people today we
3:10:02
announced charges against ghilane
3:10:04
Maxwell for helping Jeffrey Epstein
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sexually exploit and abuse multiple
3:10:11
minor girls from the period of 1994
3:10:15
through 1997 in some cases Maxwell
3:10:20
participated in the abuse herself
3:10:22
Maxwell enticed minor girls got them to
3:10:26
trust her
3:10:27
and delivered them into the truck that
3:10:29
she and Epstein had sick Maxwell has
3:10:33
been all over the world recently
3:10:35
according to news reports but
3:10:37
authorities arrested her and an isolated
3:10:38
home in central New Hampshire why what
3:10:42
was she doing there what we know tonight
3:10:44
is that Maxwell bought the house in the
3:10:46
156 acres it sits on last December she
3:10:49
bought it anonymously for a million
3:10:50
dollars in cash maybe now that she's
3:10:53
under arrest
3:10:54
maybe she's on suicide watch tonight
3:10:56
we'll learn more about what she did for
3:10:59
Jeffrey Epstein and what Jeffrey Epstein
3:11:01
did what are all the money come from and
3:11:03
why were so many famous people always in
3:11:05
the room for example the founder of
3:11:07
LinkedIn Reid Hoffman was a close friend
3:11:09
of generations now he's a top donor to
3:11:12
Joe Biden quite a moralizer - how much
3:11:15
did Reid Hoffman know about what Jeffrey
3:11:18
Epstein was doing will the FBI be
3:11:21
questioning him if not why not
3:11:22
now what about the founder of Microsoft
3:11:24
Bill Gates Gates made at least three
3:11:27
visits to Jeffrey Epstein's townhouse he
3:11:29
called Epstein and his life quote
3:11:31
intriguing in an email that's intriguing
3:11:34
on its own we learn more and what about
3:11:37
former Harvard president and Obama
3:11:39
administration official Larry Summers
3:11:42
former secretary of the Treasury under
3:11:43
Bill Clinton summers flew on Epstein's
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plane and they got him to donate tens of
3:11:47
millions of dollars to Harvard
3:11:49
University where Epstein did not go I
3:11:51
need let's just say there is Bill
3:11:53
Clinton himself who often flew on
3:11:55
Epstein's plane and then lied about it
3:11:57
we deserve in fact we have a right to
3:11:59
know what all of these people really
3:12:01
knew about Jeffrey Epstein many
3:12:04
mysteries yet to solve Wow what is going
3:12:09
is he in the basement with his air
3:12:10
conditioner on or what's going on that's
3:12:12
really annoying but it's not profession
3:12:14
was he's going on it so now he brained
3:12:16
that that fortunately he he does a lot
3:12:18
of scorched earth there say the Lisa
3:12:21
very that's that's podcast level
3:12:24
scorched earth a very podcast the I
3:12:26
agree and reason he brings an author on
3:12:31
who's wrote a book or something about
3:12:33
the death of Epstein and she's just
3:12:35
blows it he asked her a lot of leading
3:12:37
questions where she could just open up
3:12:39
with speculation which is what you want
3:12:41
to do
3:12:41
if anyone wants to do that gets to do
3:12:43
these shows your your opportunity for
3:12:46
speculation is off the charts you can
3:12:49
say whatever you want because you're
3:12:51
kind of an expert and you could go nuts
3:12:53
you can have a lot of fun but she backs
3:12:55
off and she says nothing never answers
3:12:58
his first question about why was she in
3:13:00
New Hampshire which would have led me to
3:13:03
all these ten possibilities she says
3:13:06
nothing
3:13:07
and unfortunately that it kills the
3:13:09
segment but we should listen to it so
3:13:11
you can see what not to do
3:13:12
Lana Goodman has come closer than most
3:13:14
to getting to the core of it she's
3:13:16
co-author of the book a phony and death
3:13:17
the mysterious demise of Jeffrey Epstein
3:13:19
and she joins the site thanks so much
3:13:21
for coming on so first things first why
3:13:24
do you think Maxwell was in New
3:13:27
Hampshire this morning well I won sa
3:13:31
attacker I think that prison is gonna be
3:13:32
a pretty big adjustment for Glenn
3:13:34
Maxwell Glenn was born into French high
3:13:38
society she was the daughter of a
3:13:40
billionaire she's lived this just very
3:13:44
extravagant lifestyle throughout her
3:13:47
life and as you mentioned I mean even
3:13:51
when she was in hiding at this hideout
3:13:53
she's living in a 1 million dollar
3:13:56
custom Tudor mansion estate like I have
3:14:00
hundred and fifty acres in New Hampshire
3:14:02
so you know not a bad way to be hiding
3:14:05
out I guess or to be social distancing
3:14:07
right now so I think that this is going
3:14:10
to be a pretty big adjustment when when
3:14:13
she's pretty weird though I mean so the
3:14:16
Daily Mail just had her in Israel not
3:14:17
that long ago we know that she's I think
3:14:19
she has a French passport she certainly
3:14:21
spent a lot of time in the UK her father
3:14:23
was English Robert Maxwell she had to
3:14:26
have known that American authorities
3:14:29
were after her do you have any sense of
3:14:31
why she would be in this country right
3:14:33
now it's very it's very bizarre I mean
3:14:35
people were shocked to hear that there
3:14:37
were rumors of all different places that
3:14:38
she was supposedly at I mean some people
3:14:40
that it was claims maybe Paris I mean
3:14:44
people had spotted her parents there
3:14:45
were claims about London there were
3:14:48
claims I even about like the Israeli
3:14:50
embassy and things like that so you
3:14:53
there's been some pretty wild
3:14:54
speculation but I think generally the
3:14:56
idea was people assumed she was out of
3:14:58
the country I mean she was born she was
3:15:00
born in France so she was able to you
3:15:03
know France would not have necessarily
3:15:05
extradited her she would not have been
3:15:08
able to be extradited necessarily from
3:15:10
France so it was very surprising I have
3:15:16
a speculation about what is going to
3:15:18
happen and I'm worried your speculation
3:15:22
I do want to say that I still think the
3:15:24
reason she was in New Hampshire and that
3:15:25
I would have said this she felt safe
3:15:28
because she was told that did nothing to
3:15:30
happen to her but he'll say now go
3:15:31
alright although I thought it was a safe
3:15:33
house which is kind of the same thing
3:15:37
Megan and Harry ejected from the royal
3:15:41
family Prince Andrew's head is on the
3:15:44
chopping block this is I believe the
3:15:50
President or someone in the
3:15:52
administration is behind this the result
3:15:55
and this is going to be sound weird the
3:15:58
result of what will happen of
3:15:59
investigation and Prince Andrew and all
3:16:02
kinds of weird noise and swirling will
3:16:04
be the truth about the death of Diana
3:16:08
and that may be to cover up that may be
3:16:10
to I'm not sure exactly or maybe to
3:16:13
throw Andrew under the bus for some
3:16:15
reason I'm not sure why but there's
3:16:17
something about it is is bubbling under
3:16:20
there's something is button it's the
3:16:22
royal family and that's what it's going
3:16:25
to come down to and then we can connect
3:16:28
all the other I mean if if people really
3:16:30
knew the truth about Lady Diana's death
3:16:32
man there would be no credibility for
3:16:35
any news anywhere ever again or the
3:16:37
royal family or the elites in general
3:16:43
I do a theremin but maybe you should
3:16:45
just leave it for what it is now I don't
3:16:47
think it's theremin worthy but I would
3:16:50
say this interesting that to comment
3:16:53
about the news media and Dianna's yes
3:16:56
yeah because MSNBC rose from that oh
3:17:00
you're right I used to work at him soon
3:17:06
as Diana died they killed all two
3:17:07
castles every show and they just had
3:17:09
coverage 24/7 right and that's when they
3:17:12
switched over to the to the model that
3:17:14
they currently use all because of
3:17:16
Diana's death well for sure we'll have
3:17:20
our eye on that ball and we will have
3:17:22
somebody oh that was a great clip to
3:17:26
lead into one of our end of show mixes
3:17:28
which will be featuring Prince Andrew
3:17:31
the producer Dennis did that one also
3:17:34
have sir Spencer the wolf of Kansas City
3:17:37
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3:17:40
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sweating and that she went on to have
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possibly a slight problem was was was
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