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blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah
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blah adam curry
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john c divorce sunday july 23
2020 this
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is your award-winning get my
nation
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media assassination episode
1262.
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this is no agenda celebrating
victory
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and broadcasting live from
opportunity
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zone 33 here at the frontier of
austin
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texas capital of the drone star
state in
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the morning everybody
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i'm adam curry and from
northern silicon
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valley where i'm looking at the
new york
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times and all i can say is
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move over buzzfeed i'm john c
divora
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we have a winner okay who
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we have a winner yes it's time
to
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celebrate ladies and gentlemen
we have
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a winner dr bill to the rescue
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everybody except the planned
0:52
pharmaceutical industry
0:53
it's the germans to the rescue
my
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administration reached a
historic
0:58
agreement with pfizer
1:00
to produce and deliver 100
million doses
1:02
of their vaccine immediately
following
1:04
its approval
1:05
hopefully the approval process
will go
1:07
very quickly and
1:09
we think we have a winner there
we also
1:11
winners right behind that are
1:14
doing very well in the vaccines
yes long
1:16
ahead of schedule
1:17
wow a winner john
1:22
and it's this little firm bio
in tech
1:26
little german firm that had to
team up
1:28
with pfizer to make it look real
1:31
and and it's an mrna vaccine
it's
1:34
i mean i haven't heard anyone
say how
1:36
fabulous this is it's very
1:37
very interesting i thought that
was
1:39
moderna's gig
1:40
well you know because he did
this that
1:42
means these guys are out of the
running
1:44
the modern guys no uh the
advisor guys
1:49
what do you mean out of the uh
what do
1:52
you mean out of the running
they just
1:53
did the deal with
1:54
with pfizer pfizer and bio in
tech it's
1:56
they yeah but but because
1:57
trump pushed this yeah the
media and
2:01
everybody's going to jump all
over it
2:03
and he's uh they're out of the
running
2:04
oh yeah automatically
2:07
because of course if trump
endorses it
2:09
then it's the wrong vaccine
2:11
yeah oh yes so you're so smart
this is
2:14
just getting him out of the way
so
2:16
okay i love this idea and i was
i was
2:20
already so curious because
2:22
no one was saying how
revolutionary this
2:24
was this bio in tech
2:26
who clearly teamed up with
pfizer for
2:27
the distribution or i don't know
2:29
your packaging that's what
everyone has
2:30
yeah licensing they've got the
2:32
infrastructure what the stock
did
2:34
oh the stock it went public at
uh i
2:37
think it went public around 20
2:38
and it's now at 100. that's a
winner
2:41
yeah
2:43
that's what you want to do well
i wanted
2:45
to
2:46
that's good that you brought
this up
2:47
right away because i have three
clips
2:49
uh-huh
2:50
discussing a little bit about
this
2:51
especially what's going on in
south
2:53
africa with the oxford
2:54
vaccine that's that's what we
love to
2:57
test
2:58
and so yeah they can't seem to
get
3:02
enough volunteers because they
can't
3:03
find enough people that haven't
been
3:04
infected but
3:06
there's a couple of things here
which
3:08
which warrants and ask
3:10
adam oh because as we listen to
this uh
3:13
great news about from pfizer
who are
3:17
who will rue the day
3:20
uh let's listen to just a little
3:22
background on what's going on
in south
3:24
africa this is from democracy
now is the
3:26
covet vaccine s
3:27
a oxford uh about 20 to 22 in a
in in in
3:32
the second
3:33
phase of of clinical testing and
3:36
i'm so sorry somehow my fingers
have
3:38
been off i got a new
3:40
replacement the midi controller
and i
3:42
hit the wrong one
3:44
uh we'll cut all that out no
one will
3:45
know the difference so i think
the first
3:47
issue with the trial is that
3:49
what's significant is that the
president
3:51
and the government
3:52
agreed to offer solidarity and
3:54
participate in the trial
3:56
which is being led by oxford
university
3:58
through south africa's birth
university
4:00
the difficulty of course is one
trying
4:04
to secure a sufficient number of
4:05
volunteers for the trial
4:08
with as you correctly point out
within a
4:10
climate where
4:11
the numbers of people living
with covert
4:14
are increasing and we also
4:16
estimate that that is a
significant
4:19
undercount because our testing
strategy
4:22
has been hampered by the lack of
4:24
available testing kits
4:25
so the criteria for testing has
changed
4:28
and in effect it amounts to
rationing at
4:30
the moment
4:32
the second issue with the trial
which
4:34
actually is
4:35
uh you know involves quite
significantly
4:38
a pharmaceutical company called
4:40
astrazeneca and
4:42
the issue around astrazeneca's
4:44
relationship with oxford
4:46
the relationship with the south
african
4:48
government as in the contractual
4:50
relationship
4:51
including which university and
clinical
4:53
participants in other parts of
the world
4:56
in brazil as well is unclear we
calling
4:59
for
5:00
transparency in those
agreements because
5:02
on the one hand
5:04
if we are going to participate
in a
5:05
trial that is trying to
5:07
ensure equitable access to a
vaccine if
5:10
it is successful
5:13
what what is that sounds like
there's a
5:14
quagmire nothing's going to
work out
5:16
everyone's
5:18
got an issue with something
5:22
yeah that's part of the problem
but i'm
5:24
gonna the second part of this
clip is
5:25
kind of interesting because it
actually
5:27
gives a little gives us some
actual
5:29
information oh stop
5:31
and it's like here's an ask
adam for you
5:35
um how many vaccine candidates
5:39
uh are out there currently you
mean
5:42
uh that are wait a minute is
this the is
5:44
this the actual question
5:46
this is the ask adam segment yep
5:58
all right everybody here it is
of course
6:00
i know have all the answers
6:02
uh now you say vaccine
candidates is
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that vaccine candidates that
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are currently in trial or that
are just
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or
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or that are getting ready to go
to trial
6:11
because they've gone through the
6:12
first two phases uh
6:15
well disregarding the phases
how many
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i don't the answer to that okay
all
6:21
right we'll be answered in the
second
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clip all right then my first
clip is
6:24
just the pure
6:25
how many vaccine candidates
when people
6:27
start all right
6:29
if you're in the business i
have the
6:31
number 100
6:34
it's a good number yeah all
right play
6:37
the clip but
6:38
we know that there's deep
involvement of
6:40
astrazeneca and the terms and
conditions
6:42
between oxford university and
6:43
estrazeneca is
6:44
is not available and this you
must
6:46
remember is only one
6:48
of a possible hundred and
twenty six
6:50
factions
6:51
oh so close
6:55
i think i deserve so at least
partial
6:57
credit for getting into the
three
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no you're over by
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okay now the ones going to
trial are
7:06
going to be mentioned the
number of that
7:07
how many
7:07
are going to try or or at least
in the
7:09
second stage
7:11
126. well i have to just say 33.
7:16
[Music]
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yes but it's not right i guess
no okay
7:23
here we go
7:24
this is in this last clip the
phase two
7:26
numbers okay uh about
7:28
20 to 22 ie in in in the second
phase of
7:32
of clinical testing and you
know there's
7:35
very few a handful of
candidates that
7:36
still will go to phase three
7:38
so now the thing is though
astrazeneca
7:42
we did uh purchase pre-purchase
7:46
a billion dollars worth of the
vaccine
7:48
so they took a which
7:50
i mean if they're gonna get
screwed in
7:51
the deal uh is that kind of
their okay
7:54
okay guys it's your turn next
time take
7:56
a bill
7:58
take a bill from bill uh
8:02
i have no idea how this works
and the
8:05
intricacies of it are
8:07
i think unknown to most people
because
8:10
it's you know as part of us
this part of
8:11
the great
8:12
pharma pharma scam yeah
8:15
well i have no i don't know
what's going
8:17
to happen maybe they're going
to have
8:19
two out there
8:20
both competing with each other
oh this
8:22
should be i think that's the
whole i
8:23
think there's they want to have
that and
8:25
then there's some other vaccine
8:26
forget who did that one maybe
it's the
8:29
oxford vaccine
8:30
that it's just an old-school
vaccine
8:32
it's like oxford is the
astrozenica
8:35
right but isn't that the old
school
8:36
that's not the mrna they just
didn't
8:38
the old-fashioned
8:42
whatever it is they're just
testing it
8:43
down in south africa
8:45
i guess they get a head start on
8:47
somebody there's a lot of stuff
that is
8:48
going
8:49
also with um with the
therapeutics with
8:52
rem distributor one of our
producers
8:54
is uh a lab technician and
8:58
was digging around documents
looking
9:00
into remdi severe
9:01
uh i'll quote some from her uh
his uh
9:04
uh note here i was curious
about the
9:07
circulating
9:08
metabolite metabolite maybe
which is
9:11
stability metabolite which is
9:13
which functions like an active
9:14
ingredient if you will so that
would be
9:16
the active ingredient of remdi
severe i
9:18
discovered something very very
9:19
interesting
9:20
uh attached an ncbi article
about the
9:23
mechanism of action of remdi
severe
9:25
there's a lot of technical
stuff in
9:26
there but it's in the show
notes if you
9:27
want to look it up it's been
9:28
uh sanitized for our lab
technicians
9:31
protection
9:32
uh but it turns out the chemical
9:34
compound
9:36
they use as the metabolite is
9:41
gs-441524
9:43
also known as a feline antiviral
9:46
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9:48
so it turns out that a a cat
9:51
antiviral works to some degree
9:55
in against covet yeah
9:58
covet kitty cat medicine
everybody gotta
10:00
love it
10:01
gotta love it melatonin
apparently now
10:05
uh more news
10:06
inhibits the kovid 19 induced
cytokine
10:09
storm that's another good one
that's a
10:13
what's a good one to know i mean
10:14
melatonin is easy to have
around the
10:15
house
10:20
well they sure do you
10:23
were you were you being
facetious or do
10:26
you mean that about people using
10:27
melatonin
10:28
am i at the point now where you
i ca
10:31
wasn't so sure
10:35
i'm sorry wow i wasn't sure
that wasn't
10:38
sure
10:38
bottles of it in the house
because the
10:40
kids like it
10:41
one time but jason you'd never
take some
10:43
melatonin before you go to bed
i said
10:45
why do i want
10:46
melatonin before i go to bed
yeah it
10:49
makes you sleep better i sleep
10:50
fine so i was partially
10:54
right people do have it around
the house
10:57
but you were kind of
10:58
disgusted
11:07
i first heard about it probably
20 years
11:09
ago and people were using on
airplane
11:11
flights when they couldn't
sleep on a
11:12
plane
11:13
yeah exactly or uh to combat um
11:17
jet lag which i've never i like
11:20
weed is so much better time to
go to
11:22
sleep boink done
11:24
so little uh some mask updates
uh and i
11:27
think it's relevant to
something you
11:29
wrote in the newsletter but
we'll start
11:31
just with the thought that i had
11:34
um we are so trained with
11:37
social media and so we were so
primed
11:40
for this mask
11:41
stuff and it just so i think
someone
11:45
wrote me a note and it
11:46
almost bowled me over like oh
yes do you
11:49
remember the ice bucket
challenge
11:52
yeah so this self-moral
licensing is
11:55
really this is a continuation
of it
11:57
like i i wouldn't necessarily
100
12:01
subscribe to that but i think
there's
12:02
validity
12:04
yeah it's idiotic yes which in
the
12:07
in the netherlands translated
uh when
12:10
they speak
12:11
in a derogatory tone about uh
12:14
uh masks they call it the face
diaper
12:18
which i think yeah she told me
this i
12:20
think i kind of like that one
12:22
so shanta who's uh uh my
daughter
12:24
christina's girlfriend
12:26
she was on the train in
rotterdam
12:30
going to i think she was going
uh i know
12:31
she was going to amsterdam or
not
12:33
and it's mandatory to have a
face diaper
12:36
in the train and
12:38
i guess she was fiddling around
and
12:39
dropped on the ground she picks
it up
12:41
puts it back on and she got
kicked off
12:43
the train
12:45
what yeah she got kicked off
the train
12:47
it's like she sounds like she's
12:48
exaggerating the story
12:49
no no why would she know she's
not
12:52
exaggerating the story
12:54
oh no nah she's
12:57
a little bit past that she's
not really
12:58
a millennial she's 30 i think
13:00
something like that um but the
13:04
uh i think what pertains to the
13:05
newsletter is i have noticed
13:09
and it's uh it i hope it comes
to light
13:12
and it can be exposed but there
are
13:13
numerous elite women who took
advantage
13:17
of the masking requirements
13:21
and the lockdown it was kind of
a twofer
13:23
for them
13:25
uh which includes hillary
clinton nancy
13:27
pelosi
13:28
kellyanne conway and as most
recently
13:30
revealed
13:31
kamala harris they all got work
done on
13:35
their face
13:36
and they actually believed it
when the
13:37
doctor said just a couple of
days of
13:39
bruising
13:40
so that's why they've been out
of the
13:42
running for a while you haven't
seen
13:43
kamala and
13:44
and she came back and oh my god
it's
13:46
it's like they almost all went
to the
13:48
same doctor except nancy she's
got some
13:50
kind of miracle worker
13:52
um it's it's really astounding
and
13:54
people are noticing it
13:56
well kamala harris is looks
terrible
13:59
well she's still swollen that's
the
14:00
problem
14:01
she waited too long i have i
have uh
14:04
experience in these uh
14:05
in these types of procedures
okay well
14:07
good because here's the deal
14:10
uh here's the let me give you
the whole
14:12
load
14:13
so they have the pictures of
camille
14:15
harris from from seven
14:17
eight and then from eight days
later
14:20
uh and it she looks like
14:24
she has a number of problems to
me it
14:26
still looks more like botox than
14:27
anything except for the fact
that i had
14:29
to notice this the last time i
looked at
14:30
these
14:31
horrible pictures because it's
i had i
14:34
didn't get a lot of sleep
yesterday
14:36
so uh and i kept dozing off of
the
14:39
computer so i put that picture
of camila
14:40
harris up there and i look at it
14:42
and it just boom i'm wide awake
14:47
so uh it works it's
anti-melatonin
14:51
so take so you take this she's
so the
14:54
thing is if you look at her
eyebrows
14:56
that's the key yes you'll see
that the
14:59
the
15:00
corners of her eyebrows toward
her ears
15:02
have been lifted up
15:04
so instead of her she has a low
low
15:06
hanging
15:08
eyebrow that's usually slips
right
15:10
across the top of the
15:12
other yes that part i think
that's botox
15:15
that did that but she hasn't
bought you
15:16
but
15:17
botox doesn't make your thing
go up yes
15:20
if you inject it into the right
spots
15:22
your eyebrows will raise a
little bit
15:24
that's why a lot of women got
him in the
15:25
first place
15:26
not just wrinkles on the
forehead but
15:28
she has injectables in her
cheeks
15:30
and that's the stuff that they
always
15:32
they always hook these women
into it
15:34
it's like oh we'll do an
injectable
15:36
it'll be good for you know nine
months
15:38
and they're never even ones a
little bit
15:41
more squishy than the other you
can see
15:43
it
15:43
and it takes a long time for the
15:45
puffiness to go down the rest
of your
15:46
face to adjust to it
15:48
she had injectables and there's
so many
15:50
different kinds some just
really suck
15:52
okay well let's go back to the
original
15:54
question before you go on to
that
15:55
because i wanted to hear that
too
15:57
which was if she had any
serious work
16:01
done
16:02
eight days later would she be
16:04
presentable or not
16:06
no no you're not you're really
not
16:08
presentable that's what the
doctor
16:09
always says couple days of
bruising
16:11
don't worry about it
16:12
it before these things really
flesh out
16:14
it's typically a couple of
months before
16:16
really everything yes
16:18
so she's coming out that's what
makes me
16:20
think she didn't have any real
work done
16:22
no just the injectables that's
what i
16:24
think
16:25
and some botox oh yeah oh
that's the
16:28
botox that's uh every that's
16:29
everything so much botox that
her smile
16:33
what little of a smile she has
has
16:35
turned into a grimaces
16:36
she really looks horrible
16:40
i mean if she thinks she's
going to get
16:41
picked for vice president now
with this
16:43
new look she's nuts well
16:46
i have a feeling that something
else may
16:48
be in play i'm not quite sure i
want to
16:51
ask some people about it i
think she may
16:53
have been going for a different
16:54
face um look
16:58
a little less asian perhaps
because
17:00
she's you know her roots
17:01
she's indian now she's a little
more
17:04
joker
17:07
i don't think she was going for
that but
17:09
yeah that's uh
17:10
no i i would say she was
probably going
17:12
a little bit more for
17:13
ados look i mean that's just a
hunch it
17:16
can't accuse her of it
17:17
but i wouldn't put it past her
i think
17:19
she's done a lot of things for
her
17:20
career and she desperately
wants this
17:23
everyone everyone timed it even
hillary
17:25
got all all
17:27
got a little uh refresh a
little reboot
17:30
but again with and maybe maybe
hillary
17:34
okay here's what happened
hillary said
17:36
to kamala use my guy
17:38
then this guy oh yeah cause she
could be
17:40
she has the same injectables
17:42
and because it's hillary the
guy that
17:44
she uses probably hates
17:46
black folk now he probably
doesn't
17:48
doesn't have
17:50
experience with the black
features
17:53
but oh man i love that we're
talking
17:55
about this longer than a
vaccine that's
17:57
that we're really good
17:58
this is this is the point is
18:02
kamala harris is just
submarined your
18:04
own career with this stupid move
18:06
you think yeah she's dead she
did
18:09
if biden takes one look at her
he's
18:12
gonna jump just the way i do
when i have
18:13
her picture on the screen
18:15
i mean i still think that
elizabeth
18:17
warren is in the running i mean
she
18:19
she's really bankers already
said no
18:21
they can't put her in if they
do then
18:22
there goes the money okay so
like i mean
18:25
is camelot then
18:28
my thesis about who's getting
picked and
18:30
who's not and of course i'm on a
18:31
columbus shore side but she got
screwed
18:33
by by uh
18:34
current events yeah yes not my
fault but
18:38
i still i'm going by the
original thesis
18:41
that
18:41
brought bloomberg into the
conversation
18:44
and brought him into the running
18:46
that the bankers do not want
biden i'm
18:48
going to say
18:49
the bankers do not want bernie
and they
18:51
do not want warren because of
the way
18:52
they
18:53
they've both been threatening
the banks
18:55
so those two are
18:56
just done right and of course
all this
18:58
uh
18:59
bernie unity platform stuff is
just all
19:02
the charades
19:02
you know whoever is coming in
as the as
19:04
the actual vice president who is
19:06
intended to be
19:07
the president but i just don't
see it i
19:09
really
19:10
am at a loss for who who could
it be who
19:12
did do they have anybody at
this point
19:14
up for grabs and then biden's
being
19:16
pressured if you i didn't
19:17
get this clip but joy re read
it maybe
19:20
no i didn't get it
19:21
joy reid had him on her show
and she was
19:24
demanding
19:25
to are you going to now did
this now and
19:29
not right now tell us that you
will be
19:31
nominating a black woman
19:33
yeah all right what about the
black man
19:35
by the way
19:36
which has to be a black woman
because
19:38
biden claimed he's gonna
19:39
pick a woman which is stupid
why did you
19:42
claim anything
19:42
dummy so he uh he's being
pressured to
19:46
put a black woman and if he
does that
19:48
it's well it's believed by me
and other
19:51
former democrats
19:53
that the democrat part the
democrat
19:55
women
19:56
who want a white woman as the
first
19:58
president of the united states
that's a
20:00
female
20:00
are going to just bolt right so
who do
20:04
the white women have as
20:06
a candidate who can who can
they support
20:10
i think
20:10
i think it would be i think
what your
20:12
original pick was would be
20:14
elizabeth warren yeah which
they don't
20:16
know or they don't want to
20:18
come to grips with the fact
that the
20:19
bankers have nixed it
20:23
yeah it's hard i don't know i
mean he
20:25
could still pick her and help
20:26
screw the bankers and because
of all the
20:28
pressure he's got to pick
20:29
somebody yeah
20:33
well hillary is on the scene
again i
20:35
mean i'll just uh just since i
happen to
20:37
have a clip and we're talking
about her
20:38
this is
20:39
all she's apparently she all
she can i
20:42
guess it's going to be about
20:43
russia screwed her give you a
chance to
20:45
respond to the fact that donald
trump
20:47
uh has now commuted the
sentence of at
20:49
least one of the people who was
20:50
listening russia was clearly
listening
20:51
but so was roger stone
20:52
what do you make of the
commutation of
20:54
his sins well i think it's
pretty clear
20:56
that stone threatened him uh he
probably
20:59
threatened him privately but he
also
21:00
threatened him publicly about
what he
21:02
would say
21:03
if he uh had to go to prison
and this is
21:06
a continuation
21:07
of the cover-up it's an ongoing
cover-up
21:10
that trump and stone are true
major
21:14
participants in
21:15
to try to prevent us from
knowing all of
21:18
the details
21:19
about what they actually did in
2016.
21:22
uh some of it was very public i
mean
21:24
asking russia
21:26
in public uh to interfere in an
american
21:29
election but some of it was
21:31
um clandestine behind the
scenes sending
21:34
messages the kinds of things
that uh we
21:36
know about and i think much more
21:38
uh so what he did i just use
the awesome
21:41
power of commutation as part of
the
21:44
pardon power of the president
21:46
uh to basically shut up roger
stone
21:50
uh so that roger stone would
not spill
21:53
any more beans about what
actually
21:55
happened and how much
21:56
donald trump actually knew
21:59
yeah unlike your husband who uh
pardoned
22:03
mark rich when i went on to
screw
22:06
millions out of billions or
trillions
22:08
maybe
22:09
and uh susan susan goldberg
22:13
the uh weather underground bomb
carrier
22:18
and many other fun people yeah
yeah of
22:21
course
22:21
computation makes nothing but
russians
22:24
uh while we're playing these
clips we
22:26
might as well
22:26
officially identify ourselves
we have
22:28
joined a new network
22:30
uh we are the founding uh
members of the
22:32
network and very proud to be a
part of
22:34
it
22:35
and uh it will soon be a
streaming
22:38
everywhere
22:40
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22:51
you have no idea how many
submissions
22:53
came in for this network
22:56
just an orange man bad network
yeah here
22:59
you're listening to the omb
23:01
network orange man bad
23:07
i'm not quite sure if it's r
rated this
23:09
network
23:12
by the way she does it yeah
every
23:14
everybody jumped it so we first
we had
23:16
fletcher and that was uh
23:18
dame jennifer and darren of
course
23:21
you are listening to the no
agenda show
23:24
on the omb network orange man
23:27
bad i think it has i think we
can get
23:30
investors
23:33
well in this climate yeah we
got a few
23:35
months i think it's really
possible
23:38
it could continue i wanted to
dive into
23:42
something
23:43
uh i alluded to it just a
second ago
23:46
how um bill clinton pardoned
23:49
susan goldberg as susan goldberg
23:52
we bumped into i think maybe a
couple of
23:54
shows ago
23:56
um she
23:59
she was a member of the of the
weather
24:03
underground
24:04
and uh she i guess she carried
bombs
24:07
placed it in government
buildings
24:08
i don't think anyone was hurt
or or
24:10
killed uh but it did cause a
lot of
24:12
damage
24:13
and she went i think she had a
54 year
24:16
sentence but then got out
24:18
after 16 years when bill clinton
24:19
pardoned her in uh 2001
24:22
susan l rosenberg and
24:25
we ran into her because she is
the vice
24:29
chair of the board of directors
of
24:32
thousand currents
24:33
which is the non-profit which
24:36
is the fiscal sponsor for black
lives
24:39
matter
24:40
or black lives matter inc i
should say
24:42
do you remember we talked about
her
24:43
susan rosenberg you know the
funny thing
24:46
is
24:47
yeah i remember talking about
it but i
24:49
don't remember her being the
24:50
the clinton uh pardon me i just
ran into
24:53
that by
24:54
by accident that that's new
information
24:56
for me too
24:57
um and i look so i really did a
deep
25:00
dive on
25:01
uh on thousand currents like
what
25:03
exactly it did they seem to be
more of a
25:05
pass-through than anything
they're
25:06
you know their mission is we're
very
25:08
concerned about people in the
southern
25:09
hemisphere blah blah blah
25:11
nothing really about black
lives matter
25:12
but i think susan rosenberg
looking at
25:14
her history
25:15
she knows how to run
non-profits and do
25:17
the financing so if there is a
network
25:20
of old marxist communists who
are
25:22
infiltrating then
25:24
she would be the one to come up
with
25:26
this whole fiscal sponsorship
scheme
25:28
so black lives matter isn't a
non-profit
25:30
by itself it's just a group
with a bank
25:32
account
25:33
and they get money and
presumably just
25:36
you know
25:37
i don't even know what their
status is
25:38
this fiscal sponsorship was
25:40
fiscal yeah sponsor i think it
is it's
25:43
very odd
25:44
so she probably figured that
one out um
25:47
and i think maybe we both had
this clip
25:49
of uh patrice culler saying
that she was
25:52
a trained marxist
25:54
yeah well i dove into that
thinking i
25:56
could connect her to
25:57
susan rosenberg and it wasn't
just that
26:00
one interview she said it on a
different
26:01
interview as well and it's kind
of part
26:03
of her script idea
26:04
she's proud she's proud of
herself yeah
26:06
um
26:07
i think that the criticism is
helpful
26:11
um i also think that it might
26:14
um i think of a lot of things
26:17
the first thing i think is that
we
26:19
actually do have an ideological
frame
26:21
myself and alicia in particular
are
26:24
trained organizers
26:26
we are trained marxists
26:30
we are
26:33
super versed
26:37
um on sort of ideological
theories
26:40
and i think that what we really
try to
26:42
do is build a movement that
could be
26:44
utilized by many many black folk
26:47
so superversed i don't know
what that
26:50
means but it sounds like some
kind of
26:51
badge she's super versed as a
trained
26:53
marxist
26:54
by coincidence or maybe not i
was uh
26:57
uh talking with mo and he he
gave me a
27:00
little bit of
27:01
background on marxism with
27:04
ados or african americans
dating back to
27:07
uh the 30s and i had no idea
that that
27:11
uh let's say blacks in the
south that
27:14
they
27:15
were kind of um well they
weren't
27:18
actually recruited but they
were drawn
27:19
to
27:20
communist stooges who were out
trying to
27:23
get the uh
27:24
you know get workers unionized
and cause
27:27
trouble
27:27
in the united states and so i
just yeah
27:29
but you have to remember yes
this is
27:31
true
27:31
and actually probably even goes
into the
27:33
20s but you have to remember
that in the
27:35
30s during the depression half
the
27:37
country was being lured by the
kind yes
27:39
no no that's the beauty of it
including
27:42
half of hollywood
27:43
they didn't actually go aft
they weren't
27:45
intending to go after blacks
27:46
here's the story how did the
communist
27:48
party get started in
27:49
alabama in 1928 the communist
27:53
position internationally was
that
27:56
african-americans in the south
27:58
have the right to
self-determination
28:00
meaning they have the right to
create
28:02
their own nation in the south
28:05
and it's a position that came
out of
28:07
moscow it came from other
28:09
black communists around the
globe and
28:12
with that
28:13
idea in mind they sent two
organizers
28:17
to alabama and they went to
birmingham
28:19
and they chose birmingham
because it was
28:21
probably
28:21
the most industrialized city in
the
28:23
south
28:24
and they went there thinking
they would
28:26
organize white workers and from
white
28:28
workers black workers
28:30
would follow but no white
workers would
28:32
come forward
28:33
and so the first two organizers
was a
28:36
guy named james
28:37
giulio who was a sicilian
worker who had
28:40
migrated to alabama
28:41
and another guy named tom
johnson and
28:44
together
28:45
they went out looking for white
workers
28:47
and black workers came
28:49
and black workers came in
fairly large
28:51
numbers right away
28:52
because for them they had a
memory of
28:55
reconstruction a memory of the
civil war
28:58
and in that kind of collective
memory
29:00
they were told that
29:01
one day the yankees would come
back and
29:03
finish the fight
29:05
when they saw these white
communists
29:06
they said oh good the yankees
are here
29:08
we can't wait to join
29:10
i thought that was really
interesting
29:11
that they went there to to get
29:13
white workers and the blacks
came and
29:15
they kind of i guess they got
hoodwinked
29:18
and uh
29:21
well i think that's kind of a
29:22
patronizing story if if not
29:24
uh oh it's very it's it's very
29:27
simplistic it's very simple
29:28
though the black people that
showed up
29:31
for this meeting were
29:32
stupid absolutely no absolutely
not
29:35
i think they were lied lied to
that's
29:38
what i think
29:39
it doesn't it doesn't really
matter i'm
29:40
just i'm just showing this
29:43
you have to remember again
there's lots
29:44
of comedies all over the place
during
29:46
the 30s
29:46
right and i think they take
over the
29:48
country they were trying to
overthrow
29:49
the government besides the fact
that the
29:50
democrat party was trying to
overthrow
29:52
the government
29:53
of roosevelt with the attempted
coup
29:56
yes and exactly so the whole
place was a
30:00
mess
30:00
my dad used to tell me these
stories
30:02
about the depression era and
30:04
it's kind of like it is now
which is a
30:06
depression
30:08
okay so i'll just jump ahead i
don't
30:10
have to prove that there's been
a lot of
30:11
marxist influence on
30:13
african americans but not to
turn them
30:16
into marxists or communists but
to use
30:19
them
30:19
to use them as a tool as a tool
yes as
30:23
a tool use the right word and
dupe as a
30:26
dupe
30:27
okay dupe is the word so i'm
glad that
30:29
you that you
30:30
your dad would yap about that
and i'm
30:32
glad that you uh say it's
30:33
very similar to now as uh i
found the
30:36
democracy now clip here is
patrice
30:38
callers once again co-founder
of black
30:40
lives matter
30:42
and uh let's see if we can tire
into any
30:44
of these groups
30:45
from of course not the 30s but
maybe the
30:47
60s 70s
30:49
as you began to develop the
black lives
30:52
matter uh theme and uh
30:55
and also talk about the
strategy you
30:57
mentioned you had to come out
of the
30:58
strategy center what was the
strategy
31:00
center
31:00
well i would i'm a trained
organizer and
31:02
so i think sometimes
31:04
people think that because black
lives
31:05
matter is the biggest thing
31:07
that that's the first thing i
ever did
31:09
and it's not i
31:10
um which was trained knocking
on doors
31:14
you know getting on buses and
passing
31:16
out flyers and
31:17
getting people to join
organizations the
31:19
labor community strategy center
is my
31:21
first political home
31:22
it's where i would um be a part
of what
31:25
it's famous for which is the
bus writers
31:27
union started by an old
31:29
friend of mine yeah
31:33
eric mann double n does this
ring a bell
31:38
uh sounds familiar but it
doesn't ring a
31:40
bell another weather
underground member
31:42
oh okay who also set up the
31:46
bus riders union in los angeles
31:49
and currently runs i think for
the past
31:51
10 years or even longer the
labor
31:53
community strategy center in
los angeles
31:56
which interestingly
31:59
he goes back to the august 29th
movement
32:04
also known as atm which in 1978
32:08
merged with the chinese american
32:10
organization iwk the iowa
32:13
queen and the black
revolutionary
32:15
communist league to form the
32:16
multi-racial multinational
league
32:19
a revolutionary struggle which
i think
32:21
is kind of we're looking at
derivative
32:23
groups of that right now and
32:24
she trained for over 10 years
with eric
32:28
mann
32:30
so you gotta think maybe she
picked up a
32:32
few tips
32:33
so i found uh a 2010
32:37
workshop online by eric mann
called the
32:40
transformative workshop it's at
a
32:42
university i'm not sure which
one
32:45
um but possibly in los angeles
32:48
and here you can hear where his
his
32:50
whole thing is he wants to
32:52
kill the empire which is you
know
32:54
overturn the government i think
that's
32:55
kind of what the old
32:56
marxist socialist that's what
they
32:58
always want to do turned into
the
32:59
welfare stake get rid of
capitalism
33:02
uh but that's called
transformative
33:04
transformation and
transformative
33:05
organizing
33:06
the second is that
transformative
33:08
organizing begins by a
challenge to the
33:11
us
33:11
empire we live in a country
33:15
that is running two declared
wars at the
33:18
same time
33:19
iraq and afghanistan that is
causing
33:22
misery for basically people
33:24
all over the world except in
venezuela
33:27
cuba
33:28
and other places where they've
been
33:29
successfully able to resist
imperialism
33:31
um when they talk about getting
rid of
33:35
poverty and people who have
33:37
only two two dollars a day
that's based
33:40
on the united states imperialism
33:41
imposing its
33:42
free market economy on the
world so that
33:45
people can't even have water
33:46
in their own countries so so
with these
33:49
people
33:50
in our scholastic system and
educational
33:53
system there's no one no wonder
they
33:54
turn out hating america i mean
this guy
33:56
is speaking at a university
33:58
he's written books i mean
there's
34:00
there's legion of these people
34:02
he makes uh he says this is
typical of
34:05
these
34:06
guys he says we were having two
34:07
simultaneously declared wars
34:09
yes we had no declared wars it
was
34:12
neither were declared exactly
34:14
but the tactics of the marxist
are well
34:16
known
34:17
it's it's pit to teams against
each
34:21
other
34:21
and then you can control both
and
34:22
they'll actually work side by
side
34:25
and it's kind of the way the
cia does it
34:28
it's
34:28
i think it goes back to hegel
it's been
34:30
around for a while this concept
34:32
but you can do man woman might
sound
34:35
familiar you can do race
34:36
black white but it's not really
about
34:39
the black or the white or the
man or the
34:41
woman it's about
34:42
weakening the empire to
overthrow it as
34:45
he explains in this clip
34:47
when i got involved in the
movement it
34:48
was for civil rights and
against the war
34:52
and very quickly single civil
rights
34:54
started calling itself black
liberation
34:56
and the in the against the war
was
34:58
vietnamese liberation
35:00
so we were part of an
anti-racist
35:01
anti-imperialist united front
35:03
and we all became radicalized
and i
35:05
think that's what we want to do
today is
35:07
bring this
35:08
into low-income communities of
color
35:10
because we believe
35:12
that these advanced ideas are
not
35:14
imposing our agenda on somebody
35:17
it means that we're somebody
that we
35:18
have views
35:20
we're part of the community the
35:21
community is divided
35:23
we'll bring those ideas in and
the
35:25
community will decide if they
want them
35:26
they're free agents but it
makes no
35:28
sense to go in and say
35:30
i have no agenda well you do
have an
35:32
agenda
35:34
and they do have an agenda the
agenda is
35:36
to overthrow the empire
35:38
but but these groups this guy
and and
35:41
trained uh patrice colors
35:44
see race as a tool or use
35:47
racial groups as uh stooges
35:51
to achieve their overthrow of
the empire
35:53
transformer
35:54
organizing focus on society's
most
35:55
depressed and exploited classes
it's a
35:58
strategic alliance strategic
36:00
we believe eventually that the
vast
36:01
majority of people in the
united states
36:03
can be won to an anti-racist
36:06
anti-fearless politics
36:07
but that's very very hard you
have to
36:10
start somewhere
36:11
we start with the intersection
of the
36:13
black and latino community
36:15
as a strategic alliance that's
central
36:18
to building a broader
multiracial left
36:21
and within that the role of the
black
36:22
and latino working class
36:24
including defining the working
class as
36:27
women in the home
36:28
bus riders prisoners people on
afdc
36:32
yes factory workers people at
the point
36:34
of production
36:35
but there are many ways to
organize the
36:37
working class besides just
36:39
as workers because they're
working class
36:42
every minute of their day
36:43
so we have a bus riders union
we have uh
36:46
community rights trying to get
kids out
36:47
of
36:48
the pre-prison system those
people are
36:50
just as working-class as a
factory
36:52
worker
36:54
so it really doesn't matter as
long as
36:57
they can get a pro and a con
group
36:58
together they'll use it
37:00
to weaken the system and this
is the
37:02
only clip that really matters
this one
37:04
because i think that this type
of
37:06
thinking that
37:06
clearly is in universities
probably in
37:09
grade schools
37:09
and has taken over the
37:13
woke infrastructure with black
lives
37:15
matter
37:16
is is in fact this dishonest
crap that
37:19
they're doing
37:19
to weaken society it's not
about race
37:22
it's not about lgbt you know
37:24
you think you're special no
they don't
37:25
care about you this is identity
politics
37:27
which i agree is where the
democrat
37:29
party is all in on this
37:31
and this is what really matters
he
37:33
answers the question
37:34
what do you actually want
37:39
when you're involved in a
movement they
37:40
always say well what do you
people want
37:42
when you're not you know when
you go to
37:42
the police station or go to the
37:44
university
37:45
so here are some things we want
that we
37:47
think are systematic with
transformative
37:49
organizing
37:50
systematic transformative
organizers
37:53
they're all caught up in these
37:54
terms this is 10 years ago
though this
37:56
is 10 years ago it's not that
long ago
37:58
here we go with the list show's
older
38:00
than this this guy's speech
free the u.s
38:04
2 million prisoners
38:08
no prisons us out of
afghanistan and
38:11
iraq now bring the troops home
troops
38:13
home
38:16
we want the social welfare
state not the
38:18
police states 100 000 more buses
38:21
new hospitals mental health
clinics and
38:22
public schools and 100 000 less
police
38:25
sound familiar
38:27
[Applause]
38:29
free safe and legal abortion
with public
38:31
support and financing
38:33
uh miners having the right to
abortion
38:35
without parental consent
38:39
preparations for the
transatlantic slave
38:41
trade to the peoples of africa
the
38:43
african diaspora
38:47
it's a long list unconditional
amnesty
38:50
and option of citizenship for
12 million
38:53
immigrants
38:53
open the us board open the
borders
38:59
full democratic rights and
equality for
39:01
lgbtq people
39:02
all right
39:06
shut down the 810 u.s bases of
military
39:09
occupations
39:12
all right stop the traffic of
women and
39:15
girls which is very related
39:16
to those 810 bases
39:19
[Music]
39:22
reverse global warning stop off
offshore
39:24
drilling
39:25
restrict the order global
warming
39:27
bolivian proposal for the
coyote treaty
39:29
that will reduce greenhouse
gases to 50
39:32
percent below 1990 levels
39:34
by 2017. is the climate change
39:38
that's not barack obama
39:42
self-determination and
sovereignty for
39:43
the palestinian people
39:45
yeah hello ayanna presley
always got to
39:47
be in it's got to be in there
39:48
it's code yeah jobs are income
now for
39:51
the 32 million
39:52
unemployed guaranteed jobs
remove
39:56
all cia operatives from
venezuela and
39:58
other third world countries
40:00
protect the communists
40:03
and stop the embargo on cuba
40:07
get rid of marco rubio finally
end the
40:09
war on drugs
40:11
the war on crime the war on
gangs and
40:13
the war on terror
40:15
okay so
40:18
if it sounds familiar that's
because i
40:20
think that's been going on
40:23
well it's very famous also on
the list
40:25
of the radical abolitionist
movement
40:27
web pages yeah yeah it's been
there for
40:29
a year i've been there for
years none of
40:30
this is new
40:32
none of this is uh should be a
shock to
40:34
anybody
40:35
no i'm sure you got the 10-year
moment i
40:38
bet you go back 20 years you'll
find
40:39
another example of it that
40:41
that is limited is the same but
they
40:43
probably they put the trendy
things in
40:45
like
40:46
climate change lgbtq whatever
but a lot
40:49
of people don't realize that
they say
40:50
it's marxist it's so
40:52
they don't really know what
they're
40:53
talking about and
40:55
to me that kind of brought it
all into
40:56
clarity okay when we say this or
40:59
uh cultural marxism whatever
you want
41:01
it's this
41:02
it's this and it's not to solve
anyone's
41:05
problem it's only to
41:07
ultimately uh get rid of the
police get
41:10
rid of the army
41:11
yeah so they can walk in i
guess and
41:13
they pray
41:14
on week weeks
41:18
dummies and i think patrice
cullers was
41:21
primed that she was ready
41:24
to be sucked into this listen
this is a
41:26
quick just a few quick clips
41:28
about her uh her growing up and
it
41:30
sounds a little reminiscent of
robin
41:32
d'angelo
41:33
i grew up queen i grew up as a
working
41:36
class
41:37
queer black woman and
41:40
a single parent household no
father
41:44
my father was in and out of
prison
41:46
addiction um
41:48
both my my basically all my
family
41:51
is like the kind of typical uh
41:55
life of black working class
people so
41:57
she's 17
41:58
i'm sorry i don't think that
necessarily
42:02
being a drug adult is a life of
42:05
typical typical black
working-class
42:07
people
42:08
no i that's her generalization
but this
42:10
is her recounting
42:11
story she's been she's a wreck
she's a
42:14
everything's
42:15
you know she put the checklist
down
42:16
let's follow what she has to
say she's
42:18
obviously the one to follow
because
42:20
of her uh background i you know
this is
42:22
like insanity
42:24
okay so let's follow her for a
second
42:26
because you're going to see the
model is
42:28
there this is this is
42:29
the easy prey i think for me
when i
42:32
came to the organization when i
was
42:33
organized into the organization
42:36
how about that for some cultish
language
42:38
huh when i was organized into
the
42:40
organization
42:41
i think for me when i came to
the
42:43
organization when i was
organized into
42:45
the organization i was 17 and a
half
42:49
i was really angry i was
42:52
really angry and i didn't have
42:55
a direction i just was spewing
anger i
42:58
was angry at
42:59
what i bared witness with my
family and
43:01
police brutality i was angry
43:03
that my mother had to work
three jobs
43:05
and she never slept i was angry
43:07
that just like there were so
many things
43:09
that i was looking at
43:10
and so many things that i was
angry
43:12
about
43:13
and um damon azalea and jaren
brown
43:17
who's in the room today he's a
part of
43:18
power
43:20
who i joked with i said hey
remember how
43:21
i was 17 and a half and you
organized me
43:26
organized me into the bus
riders union
43:28
at the time and
43:29
what actually um it's cult code
43:32
or they're laughing about it you
43:34
remember when you organized me
there's
43:36
obviously some kind of ritual or
43:38
something or something that
sounded like
43:40
she
43:40
got laid caught my attention i
was
43:44
uh they had showed a 10-minute
clip
43:47
of the bus riders union and
there was uh
43:50
the scene in the film where
43:54
there's a black woman
organizing on the
43:56
bus and there's a korean woman
43:58
organizing
43:58
the back of the bus and the
black woman
44:00
is speaking spanish
44:02
and i'm like wait what and then
the
44:05
black woman turns to a korean
44:06
grandmother
44:07
and goes oh korean college to
the korean
44:10
the korean organizer in the
back and i
44:12
was like
44:13
you have a korean speaker can
you come
44:14
organize her and i was so
organized
44:16
i was like that that's what i
want to be
44:18
a part of
44:19
that right there makes sense to
me so
44:22
that or that using it as a as a
verb
44:26
that way
44:26
organize me is weird that's
that's
44:29
cultish stuff
44:31
remember when you organize me
code
44:33
anyway so the bottom line this
is her
44:35
this is her real issue
44:36
my life hasn't really changed
much my
44:38
brother's still in prison
44:40
um my my father passed away in
december
44:42
and what i say
44:43
of racism he was only 53 years
old
44:47
and he passed of racism because
this
44:49
country killed him
44:51
okay so there's some hatred
there some
44:54
severe hatred issues this
country killed
44:57
him so no wonder and
44:59
and she is organized
45:03
so all of this is
45:06
it's a cycle i guess except now
we have
45:08
the social media
45:09
network aspect to it and that
cranks up
45:13
the noodle gun which is
45:15
yeah you have these dummies
that are all
45:17
in on this thing
45:18
because they oh yeah okay we
have to
45:20
destroy the country we just
overthrow
45:22
the government which is
45:23
really what this boils down to
when it
45:25
comes because that's what they
say
45:26
yes uh why would you so you're
in other
45:29
words you're
45:31
especially you're in college in
the
45:33
university somewhere and you can
45:34
actually afford to go to one of
them
45:36
and you want to overthrow the
government
45:38
because you will benefit in
some way is
45:40
that the consumer benefit or
45:42
for some i mean what is the
point this
45:44
is a
45:45
a very interesting fog that
they've
45:48
established stupidly
45:51
well crazy crazy part of it you
know i
45:54
take my
45:55
i take my learnings from
professor
45:57
theodore kaczynski
45:59
who said that you know the you
look at
46:01
the kids we went through the
46:02
you know think of the children
give them
46:04
participation trophies that
never had
46:06
anything to fight for
46:07
they haven't had to fight for
shelter
46:09
for food the ones that we're
seeing
46:10
protesting at least
46:11
the looting is a different
different
46:13
gang different bunch but that's
46:15
it's also explainable but the
protests
46:18
that turn into
46:19
larping attacks
46:22
finally these kids have
something to
46:24
live for they were given you
know the 20
46:26
year olds now they were
46:27
hey you know come to college
46:30
you get a piece of paper it's
going to
46:32
be great and then they're
working for 11
46:33
to 15 bucks an hour
46:35
uh doing retail customers
treating them
46:38
like shit
46:39
and then you know and they have
no
46:41
future
46:42
they've they've not been
challenged and
46:44
all of a sudden this comes
along and
46:45
wow yeah and the feedback
mechanism of
46:48
the videos and online postings
and the
46:50
likes and the shares and the
46:52
community and the rainbows and
46:54
everything it's so
46:56
obvious to me now and all you
need to do
46:59
is just throw
47:00
a couple organizers with some
money
47:02
thank you george soros
47:03
with an extra 220 million
promised so we
47:06
know where that's going
47:07
that's going into the susan
rosenberg
47:10
version of the
47:11
or half of the system and she
47:13
distributes the money or people
like her
47:15
i'm sure there's many more when
we look
47:17
and these are the old fuckers
from the
47:18
60s and 70s
47:21
that's what's so crazy they're
still in
47:22
the game
47:24
yeah well they should have been
kept in
47:26
jail but i guess what are you
going to
47:27
do
47:28
i'm impressed i mean let me also
47:31
i get i'm also kind of you have
to kind
47:33
of admire soros
47:35
because if you really think
about i had
47:37
a when i worked for bills if
you get
47:38
these guys to get a lot of
money bills
47:40
was one of the first of the of
the first
47:42
round of billionaires he was
one of the
47:44
first
47:46
back when there was like 20 in
the world
47:48
not a thousand
47:49
and uh he people talk about his
47:53
relatives were talking about
this too
47:55
he liked to fuck with people
47:58
he had all these he had this
huge bunch
48:00
of magazines and he'd find a
couple of
48:01
people i know a lot of rich
people who
48:03
do that shit
48:04
yeah it's reminds it's actually
people
48:07
watched the movie changing
places with
48:09
eddie murphy and
48:10
and uh whoever else was in it
uh with
48:13
the two rich guys who bet a
dollar
48:16
that if these two guys were
given this
48:18
you know they just it was some
48:19
crazy trading places yeah the
trade
48:21
trades trading places
48:22
it just to screw with people
and the
48:24
idea was you you note that
there's these
48:26
two people that were bitching
about each
48:28
other
48:29
yeah so you put them together
48:33
making the head of some new
magazine or
48:35
you do something like that or
are you
48:37
george you just
48:37
really know that kind of like
make him
48:39
co-ceos of a publication or
co-editors
48:42
just to see him blow up
48:43
that's sick that's sick and
that's what
48:47
the kind of thing
48:48
and it's not just like you said
there's
48:51
a lot of super rich people
48:53
that do evil it's fucking and i
think
48:55
it's hilarious
48:56
well it's not that i don't
think it's
48:58
evil it's good-hearted
49:00
fun by their standards yes
precisely
49:03
different group different
standards and
49:05
so i'm convinced
49:06
soros is one of these guys only
he does
49:08
it on a grand worldwide scale
and he
49:11
just
49:12
has to because he's always got
a kind of
49:14
a shit-eating grin in a funny
kind of a
49:16
way
49:17
you know when you see him
speaking he's
49:18
got a stupid look on his face
yeah
49:20
like he's just got it he's just
having
49:22
nothing but fun
49:24
it's interesting though if you
look at
49:25
soros goldberg
49:27
and man you know when you see a
group of
49:29
the these three people
49:32
it's not hard to understand why
many
49:34
ados
49:35
think the jews are out to get
the black
49:37
man
49:40
soros goldberg and what's
interesting i
49:42
didn't i shit i forgot to clip
it
49:45
he said a man said that he grew
up uh i
49:48
think he was born in 42 or 43.
49:50
and his mom silent generation
that's
49:52
what most of those guys very
few of them
49:53
are
49:53
baby boomers baby boomers are
more
49:56
likely to be
49:57
a patriotic and his mom would
just hound
50:00
him about
50:01
you know the fascists the
fascists the
50:03
fascists and specifically the
fascists
50:05
they came for the jews they'll
come
50:07
again and they're going after
black
50:08
people
50:09
and that's kind of his
reasoning for why
50:11
he's so interested in the
plight of uh
50:13
dark-skinned people doesn't
really
50:16
matter with their history as
long as
50:18
they're dark-skinned
50:19
yeah it's kind of rather
patronizing but
50:22
it's
50:23
i think that's i think that's
uh i think
50:25
that's
50:26
where he gets it all from it's
just it's
50:28
insane when you start to dive
into it
50:30
and you look at what's
happening like
50:31
every single topic from climate
change
50:34
to lgbtqiapk
50:38
you know equal rights not that
i'm
50:39
against equal rights but
50:41
you know it's like all of this
stuff
50:43
it's all their fingerprint and
it's the
50:45
same thing it's just now it's
being used
50:48
i mean is it still being used
by china
50:51
who have been who have
infiltrated
50:53
everywhere and deploy this
50:54
or is it just the democrat
party or is
50:57
it also the republican party is
everyone
50:59
doing are we the only shitheads
who
51:00
aren't doing this stuff
51:01
yet you know it's the chinese
communist
51:04
party the ccp
51:06
they they know these tactics
these are
51:08
all these
51:09
all stem from marxists early
marxist
51:11
tactics
51:12
lenin uh right it's nothing new
to them
51:16
and so they probably see
51:18
they would just amplify it sure
they
51:20
know what's going on they're
not idiots
51:22
and china is asshole
51:24
says ho so let's talk about
some uh
51:27
some spies
51:30
we got spies in houston and
they're
51:32
going through the standard
operating
51:34
procedure of the burn bag
51:36
which is everyone's like this
is crazy
51:38
look what's going on the burning
51:40
documents
51:41
did remember the russian
embassy who
51:43
closed it was trump who kicked
him out
51:45
like you said obama was it
still obama
51:48
yeah
51:48
and they immediately started
burning
51:50
documents so
51:51
that's the standard operating
procedure
51:53
that's what you do well maybe
it was
51:54
trump maybe it was early
interest i
51:56
thought it was early in twitter
but that
51:57
was
51:57
they i've got a bunch of clips
on this
51:59
and there's stuff i didn't know
52:01
good um and we can start with
listening
52:04
to a few of these if you want
to talk
52:05
about the consulate yeah let's
do that
52:07
uh this is chinese consulate
one i could
52:11
have guessed
52:11
a global fight escalates again
today's
52:15
move to close the chinese
consulate in
52:17
houston
52:18
is the latest action by the
trump
52:20
administration against beijing
52:22
nick schifrin reports on what
is at
52:24
stake
52:25
in the courtyard of china's
houston
52:27
consulate chinese staff in a
hurry
52:29
they burned documents in drums
last
52:31
night after the administration
ordered
52:33
the consulate closed
52:34
citing a pattern of chinese
theft and
52:36
espionage
52:38
we are setting out clear
expectations
52:39
for how the chinese communist
party is
52:41
going to behave
52:42
and when they don't we're going
to take
52:44
actions that protect the
american people
52:46
administration and intelligence
52:48
officials tell pbs newshour the
chinese
52:50
have used the houston consulate
52:52
as a hub for espionage just
yesterday
52:54
the department of justice for
the first
52:56
time accused chinese hackers of
working
52:58
for both personal gain
52:59
and the communist party china
has now
53:01
taken its place
53:03
alongside russia iran and north
korea
53:06
in that shameful club of
nations that
53:09
provide a safe haven for cyber
criminals
53:11
in exchange for those criminals
being on
53:14
call
53:14
for the benefit of the state
but senior
53:17
officials tell pbs newshour
today was
53:19
also about diplomatic
reciprocity
53:21
in january out of fears of
covid the u.s
53:23
evacuated its wuhan consulate
53:25
it has not reopened because of
a dispute
53:27
over whether u.s employees
53:29
have to quarantine and take
covet 19
53:31
tests upon arrival to chinese
airports
53:34
longer term u.s officials say
they want
53:36
to reduce their footprint in
china
53:38
in addition to the beijing
embassy the
53:40
u.s has five consulates on the
chinese
53:42
mainland
53:43
and the hong kong consulate
senior
53:45
officials say they've accepted
the
53:46
likely permanent closure of one
53:48
consulate
53:49
and intend to move it elsewhere
in asia
53:51
you know it's really no wonder
when you
53:52
listen to these news reports
and i
53:53
wonder who was doing that
reading what
53:55
this station it was on because
there's
53:56
no wonder that no one gives a
crap about
53:58
china because it's really not
compelling
53:59
the way it's delivered
54:02
the hell what station is this
that's
54:04
your pbs newshour hello
54:06
oh my god that's really so
exciting i
54:08
don't know why people don't
listen to it
54:09
but we did report on the story
bitches
54:10
spoke it this way and then no
one really
54:12
paid attention to me
54:14
i'm pretty good at that voice
down you
54:16
nailed it you could go to work
54:19
for pbs exit strategy everybody
54:25
yes i would i would agree with
that in
54:27
fact
54:29
yes yes well again yeah uh
54:32
that's why we're here so so
what did he
54:34
actually say because i fell
asleep i
54:36
think halfway through
54:37
uh he said that there uh
there's a quid
54:39
pro quo at play yeah was this
because of
54:41
the one hand but a lot of it
had to do
54:43
with this indictment
54:45
which was linked in the show in
in the
54:48
the excitement the
54:49
actual indictment was linked in
the
54:50
newsletter yes it was
54:52
and you can read it i read it
it's very
54:54
entertaining what did you learn
54:56
i learned that these guys are
bad actors
54:59
what were they stealing us
55:00
blind they've been doing it for
30 years
55:02
apparently
55:03
and nobody's done anything
about it
55:05
until trump came along
55:06
and it was going to continue
until we
55:09
just basically had no industry
55:10
it moved everything all that
industrial
55:13
manufacturing and everything to
china
55:14
because it was
55:15
cheaper i'm really amazed no
one is so
55:17
outraged like you are because
probably
55:19
they didn't hear it when i was
telling
55:20
them the story about what was
going on
55:21
with chinese and chinese
55:23
okay you get the gag okay good
yeah the
55:25
getty is good
55:26
um two
55:30
chinese consulate two i can't
wait
55:33
there you go more more security
advisor
55:35
robert o'brien on the ideology
of the
55:37
chinese communist party or ccp
55:39
the ccp's stated goal is to
create a
55:42
community of common destiny for
mankind
55:44
and to remake the entire world
according
55:47
to the ccp
55:48
fbi director christopher wray
if you're
55:50
an american adult
55:52
it is more likely than not that
china
55:54
has stolen
55:56
your personal data and attorney
general
55:58
william barr
55:59
the ultimate ambition of
china's rulers
56:03
isn't to trade with the united
states
56:06
it is to raid the united states
u.s
56:09
china relationship
56:09
at their lowest point since
relations
56:11
began in 1979
56:13
take the case of houston the
eyes of
56:15
texas were on dongxiao ping
today
56:18
in 1979 then chinese leader deng
56:20
xiaoping visited the city
56:22
and the johnson space center
houston was
56:24
the first chinese consulate in
the u.s
56:26
but while some china watchers
worry
56:28
about the confrontation the
trump
56:30
administration says it's
overdue for an
56:32
awful long time our policy
simply
56:34
reflected
56:35
allowing china to engage in
behavior
56:36
that was radically unreciprocal
56:38
enormously unfair to the
american people
56:40
and frankly put america's
national
56:42
security at risk and so we have
begun
56:45
to turn that around i
56:48
uh it's interesting that pbs
did pick a
56:51
couple of quotes from barr
56:53
the piece that we played so
that but
56:55
just you know one or two
quickies
56:57
didn't he didn't put any of the
nazi
56:59
talk he didn't get any of the
good stuff
57:01
and he didn't get anything good
from ray
57:03
but by the way it was
interesting in
57:04
that clip
57:06
where you had this monotone guy
you've
57:08
been ridiculing here
57:09
and that that that talks like
this and
57:12
then they
57:13
drove back to a clip from the
1970s
57:15
where they see
57:16
which was seen the eyes of texas
57:20
yeah exactly i love that and
then done
57:28
to the stage
57:32
yeah okay never mind uh so if
you
57:35
so that it is very contrasty
and you're
57:37
right and it's pot and i didn't
notice
57:39
i did notice this because i was
trying
57:41
to get clips and i'm
57:43
thinking in fact i could have
clipped
57:44
this even more
57:46
tightly and with differences i'm
57:47
enjoying it don't get me wrong
but i
57:49
know
57:49
what i noticed when i was
getting the
57:51
clips not
57:52
i didn't pick up on it but i
didn't
57:54
realize it was the presentation
itself
57:56
that was so bad
57:58
not the material the material
is pretty
58:00
good once you pointed it out
58:02
it's hard guys a monotone
58:07
blah blah loser blah it you
know it's no
58:10
good and
58:11
it's and i think the newshour
pbs
58:13
newshour is getting
58:14
more like this and i say that
because
58:16
now that you
58:17
mention it there's a report
later in the
58:19
show on something else which i
don't
58:21
know if i clipped it or not
58:22
it's the same thing so do you
some
58:24
boring guy
58:27
he's got no modulation
whatsoever
58:30
now do you think this is a
style they
58:32
like
58:33
or is this intentional so that
they can
58:35
have some cover saying
58:37
but the way i see it is we
reported on
58:39
it just no one heard it because
they
58:41
just zoned out within two
seconds no
58:43
there's no
58:43
they can't no i think it's a
style they
58:45
like wow it's so lame
58:47
i think it's a and i don't know
why did
58:50
they like it
58:51
and why it's where it's coming
from yeah
58:54
uh
58:55
well it's also also from you
know what
58:57
actually if the
58:58
the mainstream media already
hijacked by
59:01
chinese interests
59:02
they should just start
presenting like
59:04
chinese tv that's fun
59:05
it's they sing it a little bit
59:09
well no you're thinking of the
korean tv
59:12
tv i'll take korean
59:13
it doesn't matter i watch
chinese tv a
59:16
lot
59:17
at least our version cg tv
whatever it's
59:19
called china's greater
networked and
59:21
network television g c g n t
59:25
yeah uh and uh
59:28
they have a lot of monotones on
there
59:30
there's one woman who's
considered i
59:32
think the best
59:33
of the interviewers and she's
pretty bad
59:36
but in terms of the monotone
59:37
presentation
59:38
uh it's possible that they're
already
59:41
this may all be
59:42
chinese influenced here on the
pbs it
59:44
would surprise me let's put it
that way
59:46
let's play clip three you know
many
59:48
other countries share our
concerns about
59:50
china
59:50
the challenges that it poses um
to
59:53
international law
59:54
okay stop it stop i gotta set
this clip
59:56
up all right
59:58
so it's clip 3 is uh this went
on for a
1:00:01
long time they brought some
1:00:02
a couple of people on one an
old state
1:00:05
department hack who worked for
1:00:07
uh she worked this is this i
think her
1:00:10
name is thornton
1:00:11
she worked for i think she came
out of
1:00:13
the obama administration but
she was
1:00:14
kind of neutral so they kept
her on
1:00:16
as an assistant secretary and
they were
1:00:18
going to bump her up
1:00:19
after and she tillerson kept
her on i
1:00:22
like her
1:00:22
okay so tillerson keeps her on
and she
1:00:25
is
1:00:26
uh it's just a real dud and
1:00:29
tillerson keeps running when
tillerson
1:00:31
goes they're gonna bump her up
because
1:00:33
trump's thing is you know he
puts these
1:00:34
people in positions when they
get rid of
1:00:36
one of them they just bump the
next one
1:00:38
just temporary they've become
acting for
1:00:39
a while yeah it's easy
1:00:41
yeah yeah and then yeah and
then it's
1:00:42
really easy to put you know
like there's
1:00:44
a problem like the
1:00:45
dhs now we're getting some
problems
1:00:48
acting we'll get a new guy no
it's just
1:00:50
it's something
1:00:52
trump stopped being scared he
does a
1:00:53
good job it's a style yeah
1:00:55
so yeah it's a management style
so so
1:00:57
they put this woman in they're
gonna
1:00:59
bump her because tillerson quit
you know
1:01:00
and it's
1:01:01
burked because he didn't do
anything
1:01:03
yeah and it was trump's fault
1:01:05
and so she's gonna be bumped up
and no
1:01:08
they made it
1:01:09
it was actually rubio that's
the main
1:01:11
cause the stink no this woman is
1:01:13
not going anywhere because it
turns out
1:01:16
according to rubio and the rest
of the
1:01:18
conservative republicans she's
just
1:01:20
pro-china
1:01:21
uh-huh and the monkey comes out
of the
1:01:24
sleeve
1:01:25
and so that was the end of her
and so
1:01:27
she got booted but she bring
her onto
1:01:29
this and then they
1:01:30
and she's counter to a guy i
think his
1:01:31
name is chang he's a very
1:01:33
he's an author and he's a
chinese lived
1:01:35
in china for twenty gordon chang
1:01:40
is great yeah and he's not
putting up
1:01:42
with any crap so here she is
1:01:44
they're doing the back and
forth and
1:01:46
she's going on kind of hinting
this
1:01:48
trump's fault and you know this
is
1:01:50
unprecedented we're doing
anything like
1:01:52
this
1:01:53
and then chang just lets her
have it you
1:01:56
know many other countries share
our
1:01:57
concerns about
1:01:58
china the challenges that it
poses um
1:02:02
to international law and order
into our
1:02:04
economic competitiveness but
1:02:06
this kind of action gives the
impression
1:02:08
of recklessness
1:02:09
and it's not really clear to me
what it
1:02:11
accomplishes
1:02:13
gordon chang recklessness and
not clear
1:02:15
what it accomplishes do you
believe the
1:02:16
closure was in u.s interests
1:02:18
yeah i certainly believe that
this was
1:02:20
the right thing to do
1:02:22
the state department talked
about
1:02:23
protecting u.s intellectual
property
1:02:26
and the houston consulate is
known as a
1:02:28
hub for espionage
1:02:30
we've been talking to china
about
1:02:32
hacking and
1:02:33
all the rest of these things
for about
1:02:35
three decades and yet we
haven't gotten
1:02:37
anywhere
1:02:38
we had the agreement with
chinese leader
1:02:39
xi jinping in september 2015
1:02:42
for countries not to hack each
other for
1:02:44
commercial purposes
1:02:45
we had the section 301 tariffs
that were
1:02:48
supposed to be a remedy for the
theft of
1:02:49
u.s intellectual property
1:02:51
but china has continued to
steal us ip
1:02:54
in the hundreds of billions of
dollars a
1:02:55
year
1:02:56
yes you could say this is
unfortunate
1:02:58
closing the consulate
1:03:00
but we had to do something to
try to get
1:03:02
china to stop this dangerous
activity
1:03:04
you know buddy of mine who
works at a
1:03:06
accountant uh
1:03:08
company accountancy uh
1:03:12
the xerox machine i'll just say
1:03:14
generically because i don't
think it was
1:03:15
a xerox but the copier
1:03:17
broke and yeah they do a lot of
copying
1:03:19
in law offices and accountants
offices
1:03:22
and he called tech support and
was
1:03:24
connected to a chinese help
1:03:25
desk and i'm thinking to myself
these
1:03:27
things are plugged in
1:03:29
who the hell knows what's being
copied
1:03:31
out there's so much stuff
1:03:33
that's a great idea yeah and
1:03:37
why wouldn't it work that i mean
1:03:39
networked copy machines are
1:03:40
just standard fare now well the
copy
1:03:43
machine is basically a scanner
1:03:45
yeah yeah i mean there's
old-fashioned
1:03:48
one i mean if you go back to the
1:03:49
original xerox you could say
well
1:03:51
it's kind of a scanner but it's
not the
1:03:52
kind of scanner that we have
today yeah
1:03:54
but you have a it scans
1:03:56
and then makes a copy and the
scan could
1:03:59
easily be sent down the right
1:04:01
wire well there's even there's
even uh
1:04:04
cables that have little bits of
firmware
1:04:06
in it apparently
1:04:06
that can capture stuff and send
it off
1:04:09
to nefarious ip addresses
1:04:11
there's a lot of espionage
going on but
1:04:13
of course we also do have
1:04:15
gordon chang there's a number
of uh
1:04:18
chinese dissidents uh who are
clearly
1:04:22
you know working with trump i
think
1:04:24
steve bannon banyan
1:04:26
is working for some you know
one of
1:04:27
these chinese billionaires who
runs some
1:04:29
other anti-china
1:04:31
television network and he'll
create his
1:04:33
movies what he calls a movie
1:04:35
like a youtube movie uh china
bad china
1:04:38
bad oh actually he only says
ccp ccp ccp
1:04:41
it's not the chinese people and
i don't
1:04:42
give all the chinese people a
pass
1:04:44
anymore
1:04:44
you got the internet come on
get on the
1:04:47
stick help us out
1:04:49
you want to hear what gordon
chang says
1:04:50
in my clip yeah i'd love to
he's grew
1:04:53
great well the state department
said the
1:04:55
reason it was shut is because
it was
1:04:57
involved in intellectual
property theft
1:04:59
and they also wanted to protect
the
1:05:01
information of u.s
1:05:02
individuals also there are
stories that
1:05:05
this consulate
1:05:06
had links with protest groups
in the
1:05:08
united states
1:05:09
providing financial and
logistical
1:05:11
support that's
1:05:12
unconfirmed but what is
confirmed is
1:05:14
that the chinese foreign
ministry
1:05:16
and the communist party's
global times
1:05:18
have been engaged in a malicious
1:05:20
disinformation campaign
deliberately
1:05:22
stoking racial tensions in the
u.s
1:05:24
and u.s customs has seized
items coming
1:05:27
from china this year
1:05:28
that would be very handy for
protesters
1:05:31
well now unconfirmed but like
1:05:35
what uh i don't know i
1:05:38
have no id maybe helmets and
gear
1:05:41
stuff like that you know they
always
1:05:43
seem to have interesting
1:05:45
gear bricks chinese bricks maybe
1:05:52
so it's not just the consulate
in
1:05:54
houston that is a problem
1:05:56
it seems we have an issue in san
1:05:58
francisco as well
1:05:59
this investigation stems from a
move by
1:06:01
the trump administration
earlier this
1:06:03
year
1:06:04
to go after researchers who are
here in
1:06:05
the united states on student
visas but
1:06:07
have proven ties to the chinese
military
1:06:10
this woman named juan tang was a
1:06:12
researcher at uc davis
1:06:13
her visa application stated
that she
1:06:15
never served in the military but
1:06:17
the fbi claims an investigation
revealed
1:06:20
pictures of her in a type of
uniform
1:06:22
from the people's liberation
army a
1:06:24
further search at her home
allegedly
1:06:26
revealed evidence on her
1:06:27
electronics of her affiliation
according
1:06:29
to the fbi
1:06:30
and they say that on june 20th
she went
1:06:33
into the chinese consulate in
san
1:06:34
francisco where she
1:06:36
has been ever since two more
students
1:06:38
were named in the court
documents
1:06:39
chiang sang was charged with
visa fraud
1:06:42
she researched neurology at
stanford
1:06:44
university
1:06:44
her 2018 visa application
claimed that
1:06:47
she ended military service in
2011
1:06:49
but the fbi says that she is in
fact a
1:06:52
pla member
1:06:53
and ching wang was a researcher
at ucsf
1:06:56
during an interview on june 7th
1:06:57
he admitted to being an active
duty
1:06:59
member in the pla they claimed
that he
1:07:01
was instructed by a supervisor
in china
1:07:03
to copy the layout of the ucsf
lab to
1:07:05
replicate it when they got back
home
1:07:07
and that his devices found
studies from
1:07:09
ucsf that
1:07:10
they allege he planned to share
with his
1:07:12
pla lab this news comes as
1:07:15
the chinese consulate over in
houston
1:07:16
texas was ordered to close by
the trump
1:07:18
administration today
1:07:20
live in the newsroom ellis
sigmonia in
1:07:21
kron4news donald trump don't
trust china
1:07:24
china is asshole
1:07:27
they're here they're spying on
us
1:07:30
and yet that doesn't seem to be
oh no
1:07:33
russia
1:07:34
roger stone that's a great
story i'm
1:07:38
gonna give you a clip of today
because
1:07:39
that was unknown to me oh thank
you and
1:07:41
it's your backyard
1:07:43
i know i'm embarrassed
1:07:46
why would they cover it here
that would
1:07:49
be crazy
1:07:50
russia trump orange man bad we
all know
1:07:53
that
1:07:54
i did pick up uh a um
1:07:58
an edit of pompeo's speech
1:08:01
about china's asshole in uk
it's about a
1:08:04
minute and a half
1:08:05
and uh just good to hear him
reiterating
1:08:07
the points as the
1:08:09
all of government and uh hopeful
1:08:13
they wish for the all of
society uh
1:08:16
effort moves forward to
1:08:17
expose china we of course began
with the
1:08:21
challenge presented by the
chinese
1:08:22
communist party and the
kobit-19 virus
1:08:24
that originated in wuhan china
on behalf
1:08:27
of the american people i want
to extend
1:08:28
my condolences
1:08:29
to the british people from your
losses
1:08:32
from this preventable pandemic
1:08:34
the ccp's exploitation of this
disaster
1:08:37
to further its own interest has
been
1:08:39
disgraceful rather than helping
the
1:08:41
world general secretary
1:08:42
she has shown the world the
party's true
1:08:45
faith
1:08:46
we talked about uh how we've
seen hong
1:08:48
kong's
1:08:49
freedoms crushed we've watched
the ccp
1:08:52
bully its neighbors
1:08:53
militarized features in the
south china
1:08:55
sea and instigated deadly
confrontation
1:08:57
with india
1:08:58
i want to take this opportunity
to
1:09:01
congratulate the british
government for
1:09:02
its principled responses to
these
1:09:04
challenges
1:09:05
you've made a sovereign
decision to ban
1:09:07
huawei from future 5g networks
1:09:09
you've joined other free
nations to
1:09:11
condemn china's broken promises
on the
1:09:13
sign of british
1:09:14
treaty you generously opened
your doors
1:09:16
to on congress who
1:09:17
seek nothing more than fleeing
just for
1:09:21
some freedom and yesterday you
suspended
1:09:23
your expedition treaty and
extended
1:09:25
your arms embargo in china to
hong kong
1:09:27
itself
1:09:28
we support those sovereign
choices we
1:09:30
think well done
1:09:32
i'll meet later today with hong
kong
1:09:34
democracy advocate nathan lawns
or chris
1:09:36
patten
1:09:37
the last governor of hong kong
i'm sure
1:09:39
those will be eye-opening and
important
1:09:41
discussions too
1:09:43
uh dominic mentioned the free
trade
1:09:44
discussions we've completed two
rounds
1:09:46
more work to do
1:09:47
a third round scheduled for
later this
1:09:49
month it is a primary focus of
1:09:51
the united states to see if we
can make
1:09:54
progress on this and bring this
to a
1:09:55
closure just as quickly as
possible i
1:09:56
spoke with the prime minister
this
1:09:57
morning about this
1:09:58
and i hope that we can get it
finalized
1:10:00
before too long
1:10:02
china is asshole yep the
message is very
1:10:04
clear
1:10:05
and just to make everything
crazier with
1:10:08
and they're very consistent the
chinese
1:10:10
virus not even saying chinese
1:10:12
coronavirus just the chinese
virus um
1:10:17
i am reading here in front of
me from
1:10:18
pubmed which is the national
institute
1:10:20
of health
1:10:21
uh publication website uh and
i'm not
1:10:24
sure how this
1:10:26
is vetted or any of it um
1:10:30
from the journal of biological
1:10:32
regulators and homeostatic
1:10:34
agents a study and research are
you
1:10:37
ready for it you may want to
sit down
1:10:39
i'll read the abstract verbatim
in this
1:10:41
research
1:10:42
we show that 5g millimeter
waves could
1:10:45
be absorbed by derma
1:10:46
by dermatologic cells acting
like
1:10:49
antennas
1:10:50
transfer to other cells and
play the
1:10:53
main role in producing
coronaviruses
1:10:55
in biological cells what
1:10:59
this has got to be a spoof how
did they
1:11:01
get this in here this has got
to be a
1:11:02
spoon
1:11:03
this is so good i mean it is on
the
1:11:05
nih.gov website i'm that i'm
1:11:08
i'm sure obviously you got to
write
1:11:10
you're not spoofed on the
website no
1:11:11
it's not spoofed on the website
1:11:13
um so it goes on to say dna is
built
1:11:17
from charged electrons and
atoms that
1:11:19
has an inductor-like structure
1:11:21
the structure could be divided
into
1:11:23
linear toroid and round in
1:11:25
inductors yeah okay i'm there
inductors
1:11:28
interact with external
electromagnetic
1:11:30
magnetic waves move and produce
some
1:11:32
extra waves within the cells
1:11:33
i don't like that some extra
ways what
1:11:35
is that the shape of these
waves are
1:11:37
similar to shapes of hexagonal
and
1:11:39
pentagonal bases of their dna
source
1:11:44
so something's dubious about
this these
1:11:47
bases could join to each other
and form
1:11:50
virus-like structures such as
1:11:51
coronavirus well it's true we
do create
1:11:53
our own coronaviruses
1:11:56
to produce these viruses within
a cell
1:11:58
it's necessary that the
wavelength of
1:11:59
the external waves be
1:12:00
shorter than the size of the
cell thus
1:12:03
5g millimeter waves could be
good
1:12:05
candidates
1:12:07
for applying in constructing
virus-like
1:12:10
structures such as covid19
within cells
1:12:15
i'm confused how can this be
let's just
1:12:17
put that aside
1:12:18
we'll work on it that's nice we
have
1:12:20
listeners we have
1:12:22
we have producers out there
that know
1:12:24
for sure i mean
1:12:25
but it fries my brain when i
see that on
1:12:27
that it's like
1:12:28
no come on i don't know just
like
1:12:31
nih.gov
1:12:34
onion.com
1:12:36
i kind of looked for this it's
not even
1:12:37
the onion anymore ever since
the onion
1:12:39
got taken over by
1:12:40
jezebel oh really is it they
bite it's
1:12:43
in that same group
1:12:44
yeah so now the soda so now
it's the
1:12:46
babylon bee if you want
1:12:48
humor you got to go to the
babylon b the
1:12:50
onion's no good well babylon b
is is
1:12:52
is is fantastic hey there's one
thing
1:12:56
a note that i got from sir loin
uh
1:13:00
the wife and i have noticed a
very
1:13:01
strange occurrence my wife
likes to get
1:13:04
flower seeds off the net that's
where i
1:13:06
get my seeds too
1:13:08
they all seem to come from china
1:13:11
recently the people in the
gardening
1:13:13
forums
1:13:14
pay attention trolls the people
in the
1:13:15
gardening forums
1:13:17
we are in have been receiving
small
1:13:19
packets from china
1:13:21
none of these people have
ordered
1:13:22
anything they just show up they
are
1:13:24
marked earrings
1:13:25
but have some kind of seeds in
them we
1:13:27
have not received any yet but
being
1:13:29
that we are kind of at war with
china
1:13:31
i'm a tad concerned as
1:13:33
to this offering of free seeds
marked as
1:13:35
jewelry
1:13:36
i wonder if any other producers
have
1:13:37
seen this what could that be wow
1:13:40
that's kind of that's kind of
dubious
1:13:43
i wonder what it is maybe it's
a it's
1:13:45
poppy seeds i don't know what
could it
1:13:46
be
1:13:47
earrings i wonder why they say
earrings
1:13:51
it's code yeah of course it's
code but
1:13:53
why but
1:13:54
what's the uh uh
1:14:00
uh it's a crazy world i'm
telling you
1:14:03
crazy things going on
1:14:05
crazy absolutely i mean we get
a lot of
1:14:08
seed catalogs but these people
grow
1:14:10
their own seeds i mean we get
1:14:11
right we can grow seeds
1:14:15
why are seeds coming from china
unless
1:14:17
you're growing some exotic
plants that
1:14:18
you can't get here
1:14:20
i don't know this probably you'd
1:14:21
probably just order them from an
1:14:23
american site and they're just
1:14:24
sourcing them from china i
don't know
1:14:25
dude i would i wouldn't be my
my place
1:14:28
to get
1:14:28
seeds from honestly i'd be like
meh
1:14:31
maybe not well they're
1:14:32
big china is not a agricultural
country
1:14:35
no that's for sure no they know
what
1:14:37
they're doing
1:14:39
yes know there's something
earliest and
1:14:42
i want to i'm still pondering
it which
1:14:43
is
1:14:44
are the chinese so uncreative
that to
1:14:47
build a
1:14:49
a college research lab they
have to copy
1:14:52
one of ours the one in davis or
wherever
1:14:54
it is
1:14:56
i mean that was the report that
the
1:14:58
woman yeah
1:15:00
yeah they they they copy
everything they
1:15:02
they don't the implication is
they don't
1:15:04
have an original thought
1:15:06
yeah i mean that's the
implication but
1:15:08
it's not true no it's certainly
1:15:10
not true but maybe they
1:15:13
they you know they skimp around
let us
1:15:15
do the hearts just maybe low
self-esteem
1:15:17
as an entire culture
1:15:19
that they oh well we can't
build a lab
1:15:21
layout
1:15:22
you know what very possible
it's very
1:15:24
possible that that's cultural
like
1:15:26
we that's not that's not what
we do we
1:15:28
copy and we
1:15:29
recreate that's i mean that can
be a
1:15:31
culture i i believe that
1:15:35
if that's all you know just
stuns me
1:15:37
that they
1:15:38
i don't know i just i find it i
find
1:15:41
that particular one little
element to be
1:15:43
quite peculiar
1:15:46
they have architects they got
money they
1:15:48
got all kinds of stuff
1:15:49
i don't know they can buy the
design
1:15:52
maybe that the idea was they're
going to
1:15:54
make a good designer but instead
1:15:55
maybe ah here it comes
1:15:59
yeah they could do the design
from
1:16:02
scratch
1:16:03
but this is cheaper best price
1:16:07
with that i'd like to thank you
for your
1:16:09
courage to say in the morning
to you the
1:16:10
man who put the sea
1:16:12
in consulate john cena borack
1:16:16
well in the morning to you mr
adam curry
1:16:18
also in the morning to hold the
ships
1:16:19
and see boots on the ground
feet in the
1:16:21
air subs in the water
1:16:22
and all the dames and nights
out there
1:16:24
hello trolls in the morning to
you
1:16:26
let's see how we're doing in
our little
1:16:28
troll den
1:16:29
uh count them here 1719
1:16:33
for what is today today's a
thursday
1:16:36
it's thursday night i believe
so it's
1:16:37
thursday i'm sorry no it's
sunday
1:16:39
no it's not sunday is it
thursday no
1:16:41
it's thursday what day is it
1:16:43
sunday no it's thursday it's
not sunday
1:16:46
if you think it's thursday i'm
all in
1:16:50
it's thursday stop gaslighting
me dvorak
1:16:53
you know i have a problem with
this stop
1:16:54
it stop it stop it
1:16:56
uh yes so that's not bad
actually we're
1:16:58
kind of we're kind of where we
need to
1:17:00
be
1:17:00
that's the troll room uh if you
and if
1:17:03
you just
1:17:04
go to google as an experiment i
do it uh
1:17:07
frequently just to make sure we
haven't
1:17:09
been de-listed you type in the
words no
1:17:11
agenda
1:17:12
you type in no agenda man
you'll get
1:17:14
everything but there's no real
1:17:15
explanation
1:17:16
to the troll room so where you
want to
1:17:17
go is noaagenderstream.com
1:17:20
and from no agenda stream uh
you'll be
1:17:23
able to register and
1:17:24
hang out in the troll room uh
troll on
1:17:26
live shows
1:17:27
and also uh just troll that's
what it's
1:17:30
for do i need to explain it
1:17:32
and a big in the morning to the
artiste
1:17:35
who brought us the artwork for
episode
1:17:37
1261 we titled that info demic
we're in
1:17:40
the middle of it
1:17:40
jordan 33 returns relatively
new on the
1:17:43
scene
1:17:44
knocking out some favorites but
what a
1:17:46
dynamite piece of work i mean
this
1:17:48
was the act 3 the clapboard
1:17:52
with fauci in the background
and it was
1:17:56
a artistically beautiful piece
and you
1:17:58
you really
1:18:00
um dragged me into this one it
didn't
1:18:03
take long for me to understand
what you
1:18:04
were saying because i was kind
of
1:18:05
looking at the lmmo laugh my
mask off
1:18:08
yeah we had a good piece by
darren who
1:18:11
always has
1:18:12
darren produces at least two
every show
1:18:15
every hour
1:18:16
every hour he's just it's just
now
1:18:20
and he uh he had we had a
couple of
1:18:24
these laugh
1:18:25
lmmo uh left your mask off uh
1:18:28
yes emoticons or emojis
1:18:31
and he did one that would that
you liked
1:18:33
the most and it was uh
1:18:34
it popped it popped a lot it
popped
1:18:36
popped it popped in other words
it had a
1:18:38
good
1:18:39
it had a lot of contrast and
had a nice
1:18:41
look uh
1:18:42
but i like this other one
better because
1:18:44
it was it was more creative
1:18:46
it had all kinds of elements
which
1:18:49
the lmmo had one element it
actually it
1:18:52
actually also
1:18:53
popped when you when you
realized it
1:18:55
turned out to pop because of the
1:18:56
the natural cropping on twitter
yeah
1:19:00
um i'm looking at the list
there there's
1:19:02
some other ones that were
pretty good
1:19:04
most of them
1:19:04
people got kind of hung up and
i'm going
1:19:06
to tell did a little artist
1:19:08
tip right now nobody is going
to get a
1:19:11
winner
1:19:12
with the noodle gun theme you
can stop
1:19:15
now
1:19:17
you might as well just give up
it just
1:19:19
it's not
1:19:20
i've seen you know attempt
after attempt
1:19:22
of making something with a
noodle gun
1:19:24
to uh no it's not going to
happen um
1:19:27
so just stop doing that
1:19:31
and on the other ones that we
have here
1:19:33
uh fauci's head you know well
he had
1:19:35
fouchy in the one that won so
do you
1:19:37
that means fauci's not going to
be
1:19:39
winning anything probably not
just
1:19:41
generally speaking
1:19:43
i don't know it's it was it was
there
1:19:45
was a lot of
1:19:46
that could have been used but
1:19:48
essentially not used the people
using
1:19:50
some thematic stuff like
1:19:52
the my show our show gag
1:19:55
yeah we're not gonna pick those
it's
1:19:57
never it's just never gonna
happen
1:19:59
and that's comic strip blogger
doing
1:20:01
that mostly because he hates us
1:20:03
and
1:20:06
i think he only hates you his
slavic
1:20:08
brother
1:20:09
why don't you unblock me on
blockchain
1:20:12
i'm on twitter
1:20:13
unblocked unblocked in my
twitter you
1:20:14
did unblock yeah so what's he
1:20:16
complaining about oh
1:20:17
did you block him on no agenda
social
1:20:19
not yet
1:20:21
and that's the next thing i
want to
1:20:22
promote after thanking jordan33
again
1:20:25
for an outstanding piece of
artwork no
1:20:27
agenda artgenerator.com
1:20:29
you can put your art up there
and uh if
1:20:31
you well there's a process we
pick it
1:20:33
actually i was talking and i
did i
1:20:35
finally fulfilled the promise i
went on
1:20:37
nick the rat show
1:20:39
it was online he wants me to do
the show
1:20:41
someday oh yeah you should
totally do
1:20:43
that
1:20:43
why it's fun it's a very fun
1:20:47
uh fun interview and he asked
very good
1:20:49
questions
1:20:50
not great ones but good ones
and um
1:20:55
he was convinced that by
putting red in
1:20:58
the artwork
1:20:58
it was more prone to being
picked and he
1:21:01
was pretty sure that you uh
1:21:03
that you were uh susceptible to
reddit
1:21:06
sucker for reading the artwork
that's
1:21:08
kind of roger black theory of
design
1:21:11
i don't what is the roger black
theory
1:21:13
of design roger black they
1:21:15
did the rolling stone logo
among other
1:21:17
tongue yeah
1:21:18
no no no i'm sorry rolling stone
1:21:20
magazine yeah
1:21:22
you know that their their head
their
1:21:24
their logo
1:21:25
and other stuff he's a famous
designer
1:21:27
and he's always believed that
all
1:21:28
designs should be
1:21:30
should have the elements of
white black
1:21:34
and red period really and so
you'll see
1:21:37
a lot of designs that are just
1:21:39
white black and red or a lot of
just
1:21:40
black it's all dominatrix colors
1:21:43
and uh so i i guess it's
attractive i'm
1:21:47
not sure
1:21:47
well we all know that orange is
the only
1:21:49
color that matters now
1:21:51
right but it's bad it's very i
also
1:21:54
wanted to
1:21:54
call out to to a new artist
that that
1:21:58
because i was going to use this
art for
1:21:59
the newsletter and i decided
against it
1:22:01
which is uh banjo-manjeff
1:22:04
who took a uh theodore geiss uh
1:22:08
oh dr seuss dr seuss cartoon
and he
1:22:11
and he took a regular journey
put masks
1:22:14
on two of the
1:22:15
animals and it's on the list
that you
1:22:17
can see
1:22:18
i think it's a wonderful piece
it is
1:22:21
derivative to a point
1:22:23
uh it may be too derivative and
knowing
1:22:25
that that
1:22:26
yeah we don't want to get
cancelled i'm
1:22:28
going to get a
1:22:29
letter a letter yeah we got to
be
1:22:31
careful about those things
there is a
1:22:32
thin line where
1:22:33
where fair use bleeds
1:22:36
yeah and we try to ride the
line a
1:22:38
little bit and if and
1:22:40
but when in doubt throw it out
but i'll
1:22:42
what i'll tell you
1:22:44
i there's no one i'd rather
ride the
1:22:46
line with
1:22:50
than you wow
1:22:54
well i'd rather i there's no
one i'd
1:22:55
rather line ride the line with
1:23:00
okay travis mercer thank you
1:23:04
in charlotte north carolina get
me out
1:23:06
of here yes
1:23:08
what does travis say travis
says 667
1:23:12
dollars and 77 cents is what he
says
1:23:14
oh okay uh itm jensen's in top
1:23:17
four yeah 12 1267.
1:23:21
itm thank you for doing the work
1:23:24
i've decided to become a knight
in the
1:23:26
guild my good
1:23:28
over evil 6677 donation gets me
1:23:31
a seat at the table i so
henceforth be
1:23:34
known as sir
1:23:36
tactician from the fresh coast
for my
1:23:39
armor i'll be wearing how
1:23:41
dare you use your privilege to
assume i
1:23:43
am white
1:23:44
i have done the work thank you
1:23:49
to taylor curry it fits perfect
1:23:52
i'll never know how you got it
to fit
1:23:54
just right can i get some scotch
1:23:56
coors light and jerky beef at
the table
1:23:59
please you betcha i think we
already
1:24:00
have scotch in there
1:24:01
yeah but i have a combo special
combo
1:24:06
i've decided to welcome
citizens to my
1:24:08
pool
1:24:09
in the south for the next
charlotte
1:24:11
meetup oh that's cool
1:24:13
yeah go meet up in charlotte
and go hang
1:24:15
out at the pool
1:24:16
uh insert a jcd hit it here
please uh
1:24:20
uh head to the no agenda meetup
site go
1:24:23
to jennameetups.com for details
no
1:24:25
douchebags please
1:24:26
unless it's a friend that needs
to be
1:24:28
hit in the mouth
1:24:31
get your donations in and we'll
see on
1:24:33
eight one
1:24:34
uh special thanks to sir
suspected spook
1:24:37
of the sycamore
1:24:38
soot for his help in organizing
1:24:42
spooks are good he organized you
1:24:44
apparently
1:24:46
uh so i didn't okay jingles so i
1:24:49
i so not know my lines
1:24:53
never heard of it biden beats
biden yeah
1:24:56
i don't know if that's the
jingle bell
1:24:57
no it's not
1:24:58
i don't have uh biden beats
biden okay
1:25:02
sorry probably turn it into a
jingle
1:25:04
someday but we don't have it
1:25:06
these are just clips i mean you
can't
1:25:07
call us for clips
1:25:09
that's a clip yeah uh trump
aroused i
1:25:12
think we do have that
1:25:13
in the whole load for sure and
i can't
1:25:15
wait yeah and then some goat
karma we
1:25:17
got it it was hard to get it
aroused and
1:25:19
it is hard to get it harassed
but we got
1:25:21
it harassed
1:25:22
i'm gonna give you the whole
load today
1:25:32
[Applause]
1:25:32
[Music]
1:25:35
you've got karma well i like
that we
1:25:40
can't wait when i
1:25:41
haven't heard that for a long
time years
1:25:44
yeah i found it when prepping
1:25:46
you know wow i prep play it
again just
1:25:48
play it again for me
1:25:50
sure baby no problem here we go
we can't
1:25:52
oops this is the one you want
1:25:54
we can't wait we're doing it
1:25:58
we can't wait we'll show you
how oh
1:26:04
nothing like reverend manning
showing up
1:26:05
for a cameo gotta love it
1:26:09
all right sir caleb the lavender
1:26:12
blossoms our buddy in northville
1:26:14
michigan 420 dollars and 27
cents
1:26:17
uh sending some love your
weight jcdg
1:26:20
yes i did i got the honey
package the
1:26:21
honey looks good
1:26:22
the uh bought lots of bottles of
1:26:25
stuff thank you uh thinking
about
1:26:29
sending you a little homemade
wine soon
1:26:31
but i hear you john quit
drinking what
1:26:35
so maybe i said what what
1:26:39
did you quit you didn't quit
drinking i
1:26:41
did i usually quit every night
1:26:45
okay go to bed yes stay organic
says
1:26:49
circal of lavender blossoms
thank you
1:26:51
very much and
1:26:52
love the coded message for 22 7.
1:26:55
uh 4 22 7 oscar court course 10
1:26:59
in rotterdam uh holland 333.
1:27:05
i'm finally finishing my third
trip
1:27:07
around the sun it will turn 33.
1:27:09
i always get a kick out of
people that
1:27:10
are turning 33. yep
1:27:12
uh this friday i couldn't think
of a
1:27:14
better birthday gift to myself
and
1:27:16
producers alike
1:27:17
and a contribution to the show
this i
1:27:19
think this is wise
1:27:21
it has been a great ride so far
and i'm
1:27:22
wishing for many more years of
info
1:27:25
saying meant to come
1:27:26
i am seeing the magic numbers
appear
1:27:29
everywhere around me i knew
1:27:30
i had to donate driving 33.3
kilometers
1:27:34
an hour at exactly 33.3
kilometers into
1:27:36
my cycling trip
1:27:38
for the third time in a row for
example
1:27:40
you cannot make these things up
1:27:42
you can't you can't you can but
it
1:27:45
sounds
1:27:46
unlikely uh since this is my
first
1:27:48
contribution please deduce me
1:27:52
you've been deduced and call out
1:27:56
hans his sink as a douchebag
1:28:03
in honor of the great kaylee i
would
1:28:05
like to end my message with your
1:28:06
question for you
1:28:08
with a question for you since
the saying
1:28:10
goes quote unquote who controls
the past
1:28:12
controls the future
1:28:14
there's nothing more to ask
then what is
1:28:17
your agenda i can tell you
1:28:20
okay the agenda is to have
1:28:23
no agenda cop out
1:28:28
please provide the world
producers and
1:28:30
douchebags alike