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Whoo I want to wear a mask. Adam
curry, John C. Dvorak.
Thursday, April 21 2022. This is
your award winning keep our
nation media assassination
episode 1444. This is no agenda,
spotting smoke standby caliber
and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas hill country
here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry.
And if another Silicon Valley
where I'm back from a yak fest,
literally I'm John Cena. Devorah
Buzzkill.
Man you leave me with yak yak.
Come back to me with Yak.
yackety Yak.
Don't talk back. How
was it? How was your Yak?
I was actually stunned.
What does it taste like? Does it
taste like antelope? Does it
take what is the taste like
giraffe? I mean, what does it
taste like?
It? I'd say it's somewhere
between first of all let's just
it said What is it tastes? It
tastes like Yak is what it
tastes okay. Is the it's the
most unbelievable. Hamburger I
think I've ever made. And it was
no seasoning whatsoever. It says
some salt. It's light. It has it
has a broad spectrum flavor. But
it's it's extremely tender. It's
extremely light. It has the same
kind of fat that wagyu has. So
it's a healthy meat. except for
instead of wagyu. It's extremely
lean is like 90% Lean. But for
Lean lean meat. It's extremely
tender. It's hard to explain,
but it's done everybody.
Good. And did you Did everyone
still put ketchup and mayonnaise
and mustard and relish on it or
it
was a resistance on. This was a
hamburger bun, which has sauce
and tomatoes and stuff. But it's
beside the point you could tell
the Yak was it was an
exceptional product. Now, since
it was all jacked up about it,
JC of course started immediately
doing research and discovered
some of the issues with the Yak.
It tastes like takes like three
times longer to get the Yak to
maturity to eat it. So that's
expensive. It can't eat. It
can't eat it. A feedlot refuses
to do so. So it's only going to
eat out in the in the wild right
in the wild in the wild. Yeah,
it's a Grazer and it's it's not
like you know cows or grazers do
but they'll either feed a lot
you know anything if you want to
feed them cookies. Oh yeah,
good. They had only has two or
three stomachs, two stomachs
maybe it doesn't have four. But
I'm telling you,
right. You are telling us that
sounds like it's dynamite as a
stunner sounds like it's a good
product All right. Well, we
should sell those no agenda yak
wares, you know agenda yak.com
People come on. Let's get this
going.
Out. As I mentioned this, my yak
supplier currently. If you can
write this down at Dell, the x d
e l yaks, which is desert and
limited. And he's in Montrose
car Colorado, and I think you
can find him at just desert and
at DME a.net.
Yes, and chicks dig this when
you present them with Yak.
Alright. Hey, we really stepped
in it on the last show, but we
do well, we had this whole
conversation about online
harassment of women Little did I
know what was what was where
this was coming from? I don't
know if you seen the incredible
controversy with Taylor Lorenz
of The Washington Post.
Oh, Taylor Lorenz. Yeah, I mean,
that's the she is the target of
Putin with good reason. Just
this is this is where it all
came from. This is why they're
doing these big pieces about
harassing women online and we
were appropriately cavalier
about this specific harassment
online, online. But what I
noticed is I got a lot of
feedback from women saying,
Well, you know, it really
triggered me this conversation
because it seemed like you were
just brushing it aside and I've
been harassed throughout my mic
my life and and it kind of
crossed over you know, it's like
well, yes, it harassment in real
life in the workplace, etc,
completely inappropriate. Those
are douchebags, but when you're
online, I mean, how do we even
know if the target is a woman to
be honest about it? But it's
just
you don't know what's coming
from really could be a kid a 12
year old and you're all bent out
of shape?
It was. So somehow this week, I
guess we missed it, but it was
brewing and then this Taylor
Lorenz was Just get through this
quickly don't have to spend too
much time on it. She is she's
worked at the New York Times
then left the Washington Post.
What kind of superstar
millennial is this?
If she's a millennial rousted
from the time's
right, but why? Because she's so
incredibly good.
No, she makes she's the one
who's the account. She is really
a target of Matt Taibbi as to a
an extremely
Glenn Greenwald, Tucker Carlson,
the whole
suspects, they'll hate her.
Because she lies and she makes
stuff up and she cries on
camera. Oh, wait, about
harassed. Here's
the crying on camera. This is
actually before she went out and
did the same thing to the LIBS
if we didn't have to get into
that story. Everybody knows it.
But I just love hearing this
clip this hypocrisy.
I've had to remove every single
social tie I had severe PTSD
from this i I contemplated
suicide got really bad. You feel
like any little piece of
information that gets out on you
will be used by the worst people
on the internet to destroy your
life. And it's so isolating and
terrifying. It's horrifying.
It's overwhelming.
I was so good. There you go.
You're mocking the poor crying
woman who I am. And I'm mocking
her.
Because when I saw this, like,
oh, this girl's not well, she
she needs some help. Because you
know, if you're in the business
of journalism, and you are
pitching your stories online,
and you're in many cases, Daxing
outing people doing really kind
of horrible, terrible things
down, then you're going to get
this backlash. It is just going
to happen. And I think a lot of
a lot of journalists are irked
by it. But this conversation
between Megan Kelly and Glenn
Greenwald, just a short to a
short minute here. There's a
little more going on with Taylor
Lorenz
to lay your hand I'm like,
You're right. I feel zero
empathy for her zero. Because
she's created this life for
herself. She's the worst about
doing this to others. And then
when when called out on the
consequences of her choice of
profession, she's made this her
work. We call down the
consequences that she unleashes
on others. She wants us to feel
sorry for her. Well, I don't.
And it's it's a pattern. She
released a tweet. I know you
retweeted this. And I think
we've got it talking about her
many like psychological issues.
Do we have a Debbie? Here's what
she tweeted, June of 2021. This
is definitely TMI. And we'll I
will probably delete but I'm
honestly so proud. And I want to
share it. Something people might
not know is I have very bad
trichotillomania and Derma
tillow Mania, and this is the
first time in my life that I
haven't had an open wound on my
head. And the bottom line is
these things are hair is a hair
pulling disorder, and a skin
picking disorder, which they
describe from the Mayo Clinic as
a mental illness. These are
mental illnesses related to
obsessive compulsive disorder.
So if you have an it's sure the
serious if you're pulling your
hair out and picking your skin.
Do you need help? And you
probably shouldn't be in the
public eye where people can say
nasty things to you.
Really question is this you
actually have I actually knew
somebody that had disorder. And
they complained about it.
Because it's annoying for them.
Because I pull your hair out?
Yeah, I can see why that would
be annoying.
Yeah, it was mostly the skin
picking always get a little
itchy spot and they pick and
pick and pick at it until you
get to yes or did you pick too
much? There's a lot of other
things going on with her whether
she has that or not. It's it's
she's a she's done a great job
of promoting herself to a
position of, of a high paid
working journalist. And she did
the grief that she creates. I
don't know what you how she
keeps her jobs, to be honest
about it, but she's very
talented at it. And I don't know
what to make of her.
It's not that important. But But
what I really despise because I
saw some of these emails she was
sending to people, you know,
asking for comment. And this has
happened. In fact, this happened
to me just just the other week
where a reporter will email you
and say, on deadline, I have a
deadline I need to know within
the next hour. I'm exaggerating,
I'm exact No, I'm exactly. I'm
exaggerating. But there's some
lawsuit taking place in the
Netherlands and someone a
journalist asked me, Hey, are
you a part of this? Did you get
screwed by these guys? And I
said I have no comment. I'm not
interested in this topic. And
then they came back with Okay,
well, you know, so will you
confirm or deny that you were
you were screwed out of them for
100,000 Euro Honestly, I don't
even know what they're talking
about. But you know, and you
can't even reply to this, you
just have to leave it alone. But
this whole I need to know I'm on
deadline on deadline within an
hour. Otherwise, we're going to
go with what we have. This is
the chicken shit I really hate
from from big press Washington
Post in the New York Times does
that too.
Is that what you do? Is that a
typical
journalists thing?
They I put go on the other side
of the argument, please do. I'm
doing this piece. The editor
wants it in by two. And I'm
calling around noon. So
basically, I'm on deadline,
meaning I have a deadline that
if I don't meet it, it says I
got to produce whatever I got.
Or they don't even run it, which
is generally what happens. And
so you call him and you and
saying you're on deadline is a
courtesy to people in the know
who, who are usually media
savvy, and they know that okay,
I can get you something in time
or I can't. And they usually say
if your media savvy say, I can't
help you, I won't be able to get
you anything. Why or what are
you go? What is your deadline?
Exactly. And then you and they
come back with with two o'clock
and then you say I can't do any
I can't help you. Sorry.
Right. Just leave it right. But
then they come back with Okay,
so we're going this is literally
what she did. No,
they shouldn't do that. That's
what she said. If you ask them
to debt, did you ask him the
deadline?
No, I'm not. I'm telling you
what's happened with Taylor
Lorenz, and I'm talking about
Taylor arrest. She's out of
control. That's the one I'm
talking about. She said. No,
she's no, no. Oh, yeah.
He was using me.
Yeah. In Holland, there was a
disc completely irrelevant.
Nothing to do. Just I was saying
that. I know journalists do this
and what and what they do is,
well, if you don't have to, if
you said okay, I'm sorry, I
can't help you. You don't have
time, her response would be
great. We're gonna go with what
you have that you have a special
relationship with that account,
you know, then they just assume
that's yeah,
that's just a bad. That's Thank
you. That's what I wanted to
hear.
She's no good. I was questioning
myself. was quite
she does that sort of thing.
That's that's not right. I mean,
I'm surprised even talking about
her will draw her ire and you
will probably get some Oh, no.
So hit piece I tried to
Oh, Mike, and she's an ageist if
you listen to she was on. Oh my
god. I couldn't even clip it. It
was so bad. She was on with
Jason Calacanis, who now has
Molly wood working for him. Did
you know that? Yeah. Yeah, I did
this Week in Startups. That was
interesting. So and they're
like, oh, they love her. Oh, she
just threw another team bomb and
like all dig in her. And she
gets on and she's talking about
her. You know, these guys. They
boomers on Tik Tok, and she's
really ageist. It's just, I
think this all is it. Somehow it
all comes together as a part of
Twitter and Elon Musk wanting to
buy Twitter now. Apparently,
he's putting together a tender
offer. Somehow. I think it's
related to that because out of
control, it seems it seems like
in the United States, liberals
and perhaps let's just say the
Democrat Party are really afraid
that that Twitter would not be
under their, their auspices
there. Thumb. It's like it's
it's kind of obvious.
I find it fascinating is as much
as you do. It's, it's, there's a
humor element to it to that just
to watch them twist in the wind.
And Ilan Z has always got that
smirk on his face. Like he knows
what he's doing. Yeah. And
there was something one of the
some interesting connections, so
Oh, yes. What is this? After
Twitter rejects, Musk offered
DeSantis and musk team up with a
new strategy. So implying that
the governor of Florida is going
to crap. Yeah. And you know, you
know, how they make this
connection? Because the state of
Florida, you know, they have a,
they have investments for the
Pension Fund, and the pension
fund has a has, you know, I own
some, some shares in Twitter. So
now it's like when Elon does
something I add, it's now
DeSantis is doing it too. Is
there together? Well, a stretch.
It's fascinating that that
Calacanis and Mollywood haven't
got a clue.
But no, no, no, no, no, they hum
and now I'm thinking I should
have clipped it because all you
hear is well, you know, GOP,
GOP, GOP GOP. Why don't you say
either once you call out who's
really GOP is nothing Republican
national, you know, the
Republican Party, you know, the
National, the actual
organization. Now, it's just,
it's just more political
bullcrap. And, and the show was
called This Week in Startups.
Yeah, it sounds like other shows
that are supposedly tech shows
and just wanted to Talk about
politics. Yeah,
exactly. Well, we'll talk about
some tech. Here's my favorite
Netflix. I know who could have
predicted that a?
Well, you know, there were there
were signals. There were signs.
John, we've been saying this for
years. We've been calling this
Netflix a Ponzi for years. It's
a it's
no, but it was it was. You can
almost say the same thing about
Tesla. The stock is sure
skyrocketed. Yes, of course, it
maintained a very high number.
It was very hard to short. And
people were. We talked about
this on the Dijon plush all the
time about shorting, shorting
Netflix's like, you know, taking
real gamble because these, they
just had everything going on to
keep shorts from working out.
But everyone kept wanting to do
it. And so now that it actually
collapsed, practically, I mean,
I think there's a long way it
was just starts to go down once
the stock start to dip bottom is
zero people or let me it's not
200
When we play this
overnight Netflix stock plunging
as much as 5% After the
streaming powerhouse announced
it lost subscribers for the
first time in more than a
decade. Just when you think it
couldn't get any worse. It just
does. Netflix blaming more
competition, illegal password
sharing and Russia's invasion of
Ukraine.
The first password sharing Putin
that was nonsense. They
encouraged password sharing
amongst families.
Of course, they do five members
I think and Putin loyalty
they had a number but all these
services, Hulu, Netflix, Amazon,
they all encourage password
sharing,
get get beyond the password
sharing. Its Putin Don't you
understand
word sharing and Russia's
invasion of Ukraine. The company
ended the first quarter.
I'd love to know how Russia's
invasion of Ukraine is that
because the Ukrainians are
stopped watching, you know,
like, Oh, we're getting invaded
cancel Netflix.
It seems to me that if anyone is
going to be illegal sharing
passwords is going to be
Ukrainians. Netflix stock should
have shot up
toward sharing and Russia's
invasion of Ukraine. The company
ended the first quarter with
200,000 fewer subscribers than
the end of last year,
we're seeing a lot of the
subscription fervor that was
going on during the pandemic
we're seeing starting to slow
down
after increasing its monthly
cost in January. The basic
Netflix plan is now about $10.
But according to a new study,
more than 60% of people think
they shouldn't have to pay any
more than 750 per month for a
streaming service.
So what I love about the story
is that did this story that was
ABC, but the whole arable so the
whole industry is collapsing,
network television, the ratings
are abominable, everything
interruptive. Anything that is
interrupted by advertising has
sucked. That's why everyone was
loving. Netflix, of course, they
have some hits. And then Hulu,
and I think a lot what, what No,
I'm going back. All right now
they have bridgerton. But they
before that, you know House of
Cards, they've had hits, they've
had single hits, which brought
people in and then once the hit
is over once they've been hit,
which I think is probably well,
this is last quarter big bridges
and just started. But these are
incredibly expensive. They have
to pay off all the everyone
upfront instead of you know,
being a back end deal for a lot
of actors and producers, etc.
And you could just see, with all
the competition that someone had
to go down and the amount of
debt that Netflix has is just
insane. But now their strategy
moving forward is the real head
shaker. They're going to do a
free tier with advertising.
It's called OTA is called get an
antenna stick it on the back of
your TV set.
I mean, that's that is that goes
against the entire model. Yeah.
So I love it. I want to see all
this stuff collapse. So maybe we
should say something about
Netflix is programming in
general. Any there's a few
things that we watch bridgerton
would be the one I guess. And if
and if you just scroll down the
homepage, it's all woke stuff.
Yes to turn walk. Well, the guy
who runs Netflix, Hoffman.
He used to support he used to he
doesn't run anymore doesn't know
but he's still got influence. Of
course. I think he's still on
the board.
Yeah, he's he's a what is He? Is
chairman is they know I mean,
you were gonna say so the guy
is the biggest supporter of woke
stuff. He is the guy who put in
gas going down in Los Angeles.
Right? That's right. Amen. And
Soros put this guy in in two
places become a crime ridden
hellhole. And that's reason
enough for people in LA to turn
on him.
But there's, there's more stuff
with the streamers. And I'll
just include Spotify as a
streamer as well, again, another
company that really hasn't ever
published a profit as far as I
know anything meaningful. They
had all these exclusive deals
Joe Rogan deal being the most
visible. But you know, one of
the other really big deals in
fact, before Joe Rogan came in,
and we talked about it was the
Obamas. And they're out there in
variety saying, Yes, we're going
to do anything. We're going to
end our exclusive deal with
Spotify. No, I think something
else happened here. I think
Spotify went no, no, we remember
that they couldn't feel the
advertising. They didn't have
enough people. And so they had
to take it from an exclusive on
Spotify and open it up. So every
podcast app could then listen to
it for their nose, a tide or
whatever it was their launch
sponsor is pathetic. No one
cares. That's the point. No one
cares. Obama's yes, we're
looking at what they're looking
for higher ground is their
production company.
I know it was a hill should be
the name.
They're looking for a new deal
with a non exclusive deal. So
they want a lot of money. And so
they can still publish it
everywhere, I guess. And it's
the Michelle Obama podcast. You
know, y'all also had the Born in
the USA, which was a podcast
with the President Obama and
Bruce Springsteen, basically a
very sad mo facts with Adam
curry rip off. Yeah, so I'm just
celebrating the death of
mainstream that's what I'm doing
here. I love it. I love it.
You're in a dead yet
go. It's dead. I
watched stuff. I watched shows,
watch things I minded my
thinking. Advice for people is
to get an OTA antenna.
Yeah, this is this is a digital,
every television today in the
United States at least can
receive over the air. digital
signals. Very interesting.
Stations are available. And so
it wouldn't matter if you're
Yeah, you can get 4k over the
air. Yeah, but it's 4k of poop
is still poop. 4k of the nightly
news, for example would be very
watchable. All right, cool.
Well, you have to watch the
news. They got new shows. You
got to see what's going on.
Yeah, and it's not a big bad
thing. And then I think Hulu is
my favorite of all the streamers
got HBO plus, it's got
everything on it just like it
was you paid the premium for it.
In other words, you get no
commercials for any show. Zero
commercials for like TV, regular
network TV is fabulous. And OTA
Bumi. Good.
An update another thing we kind
of stumbled onto and I had no
idea this was taking place. And
this is the auto sear switches.
And we played a clip of some of
these we got called
out on this well called out I
mean, I got called No we all
because I was going on up I
believe Matt,
I believe me, we both we both
got called out as not knowing
what's going on. And I think
that's okay, because this is
relatively new the past that's
relatively we can't
know everything. And we
definitely can't know about
this. This is pretty wild.
So the so the report was some
the mass shooting, use the Glock
automatic pistol, which n which
means it could shoot off you
know this full mag of 33 rounds
within a couple of seconds. And
I'd never heard of it. You
hadn't heard of it. We thought
it was typical, mainstream
misreporting but no this the
auto sear is indeed like a 20 to
$20 device that was just tapping
it right onto the back of your
Glock turns it into a into an
and there's I've looked at gene
gun I've looked into this
there's there's wire hanger
sear, auto Sears which you can
basically jam a coat hanger into
your into your AR 15 and have it
go full auto. I'm not gonna
explain the mechanics was very,
very simple. But here's the
thing that blew me away. And
auto sear the most common
automatic conversion device
transforms a semi automatic gun
into a weapon capable of
emptying an entire magazine with
a single pull of the trigger,
also known as switches or chips.
Auto seers have been around
since the 70s. Baby we got bell
bottoms and auto Sears coming
back. This is groovy.
Oh yeah, no this Yeah, that
would be great comparison. If
anyone ever knew of those things
back in the day. Well, I'm
just reading the mainstream
news. Someone knew about it. I
didn't I didn't. But this this
is
you know, they used to have you
know, I sent to one of the guys
who sent me a bunch of, you
know, all the details of some
videos and how they work and all
the rest. And, and I'm thinking
this is like a big new deal to
Mac 10 was always designed to be
turned into a machine gun. A
Little Mac 10 or Mac 11 Nowadays
with did Mac 10. Yes, John,
you're missing you're missing
the point. This is a $20 upgrade
that any gangbanger anybody can
use. And here's the problem.
These are being shipped into our
country on mass from China. Of
course, this this is this is the
real problem. The Chinese are
giving us everything we need to
kill ourselves, fentanyl. I
don't love it. Yeah, but I don't
know if this design was a
Chinese designers just some shot
in China in China.
It's not a Chinese design. But
it's coming in from China. Yeah,
but if it wasn't good, okay,
let's do this. Before we get
into the anti Chinese. I don't
know what to call it. bigotry.
If it wasn't coming in from
China, you don't think somebody
would be making it here or
Germany or Mexico?
I think
I don't think it's so specific
to that Chai I just think that
Chinese somebody find a source
and China can make it damn
cheap.
Well, then we need to find
whoever that source is and stop
them because that's the problem.
But if I or if I say okay,
here's my design China send it
to me. That's going to be
traceable to me. If China is
just sending these things in
through any other means they
send seeds to everybody. Why not
throw it in auto sear? I don't
know. But the fact
that when and when you know
with? Yeah, with the fentanyl?
Yeah, there's one in the box.
Free with every key of fentanyl.
The point is, is that what's not
being discussed is how these are
getting in where they're coming
from who designed them who
ordered them who shipped them.
We're not we can't get I think
that boat sailed we can't get
fertilizer from China but we got
Otto Sears. Once you get
to us they come on what's the
Chinese get a hold of the design
I did every buddy's cloning it
he never figured out.
I'm just gonna go with it. Screw
the Chinese. They're just
sending this to us to kill us,
for us to kill ourselves. It's
perfect. It's perfect. This is
the right moment to roll this
out. Everything's stressful.
You've got all kinds of crime.
And now we are now all of a
sudden people are spewing 30
rounds in two seconds.
That's unbelievable. If you did
videos or online, watch this.
This thing should it can't be
good for the gun. No start with
that premise. It's
not good for the gun but also
you're not really going to hit
anything targeted. You're going
to spray stuff all around the
room or wherever you happen to
be shins is very, very, very bad
party gun. Very bad. Very bad.
Party gun now. This is the this
is the gangbanger gun. So maybe
we do the latest COVID update
that concerns mainly the United
States. It may have implications
for the rest of the world. And
that would be our mandates on
federally regulated
transportation.
I have the mass ruling mat mass
mask ruling.
Yes, I have. Well, let me let me
play a I have a couple of you. I
see what you have. Let me just
play a quick
intro. Many health officials are
worried that we're lifting the
mask mandates too soon,
especially with the emergence of
a more contagious severity. And
that's
not the one I wanted. What What
can you all oh crap Wait, do
I want I want to be let's
start with this one. We are just
getting clarity from the
administration on that judge's
ruling today saying they are
reviewing the judge's order. But
that for now the TSA will not
enforce the mask mandate on
public transportation and adding
to all of that confusion. As you
mentioned, there is a new mask
mandate here in Philadelphia.
That took effect today. That
means about 20,000 fans here to
see the 70 Sixers play tonight
we'll have to mask up once
again. You can now fly or ride
the buses and trains mask free.
The move comes just hours after
a federal judge in Florida ruled
it was unlawful. Today a US
district judge said the court
accepts the CDCs argument that
masks will limit COVID-19
transmission, but that alone was
not sufficient to exceed the
agency's authority. infectious
disease specialist Dr. Celine
gounder says it's still too
soon. You
don't know how the BA two
variant is going to play out
across the country. As of right
now my advice as a physician to
anybody traveling on a plane
would be to continue wearing a
mask, when you're traveling on
public transportation, including
on an airplane
will set the context for people
who don't live in America have
just kind of missed this somehow
the CDC asserted it had the
regulatory authority and power
to impose these mandates. And
that was ultimately challenged
by a federal judge if we're not
challenged, but overturned by a
federal judge in Florida, of
course, a Trump appointee, which
makes it just that much more
fun. And also, you got to wonder
why now and why not a year ago,
judge because Trump has
came before her in the US, the
judges can just ad lib and do
whatever they want, whenever
they want. How does how does
that work? You have to have
something has to come before you
that make a determination. Do we
know who brought this before the
judge? It's kind of vague, but
somebody did. And it was in
Florida. And that's when the
whole thing came down. I have
the NPR stuff, which kind of
outlines it a little bit. This
is this is mask ruling one.
The federal government is now
appealing a court decision that
struck down the federal mask
mandate on public
transportation. The Justice
Department filed the appeal at
the request of the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention.
face coverings became optional
this week on many planes, trains
and buses after a federal judge
declared that the CDC had
exceeded its authority in
requiring masks for travelers,
the CDC has faced many such
challenges to its authority
during the pandemic to what it
can and can't do in the name of
public health. Now, it's
fighting back.
So we kind of kind of we kind of
jumped over one little piece
here is the the mandate was
overturned, which is its
immediate law. And you probably
saw people on the airplanes
getting the announcements with
various responses, but I will
say mainly positive. On the
18th, when this took place, the
CDC had already said we're going
to do two more weeks until May
3, to just to make sure that
everything's okay with the BA to
variant. Then there was this
period of like 36 hours, like
are they going to appeal or what
are they going to do and then it
was no we're not going to appeal
then we are going to appeal to
now they are appealing. And I
look forward to what else you
have from NPR. Well, here's
part two of the same clip.
NPR health reporter ping Wang is
here. Hi, ping.
So this wait a minute, what do
you say hey, I was his name. She
say their
NPR health reporter pin Wong is
here. Hi, ping. Hey, Ari. This
mask?
Hey, Ari got it that is
now being challenged by the
Justice Department. will it
stand?
Well, that's still up in the
air. As you mentioned, the
Justice Department and CDC are
now appealing to get a travel
mask mandate reinstated. And the
CDC says the order for wearing
masks on planes, trains and
buses is still needed for public
health and also appeal the
decision protects the public
health authority. She said ad
libbing?
No, no, they all reporting. They
all say this. They all say
safe and effective. Okay, I'm
sorry. It's just one of those
little terms they throw and go
on the order
for wearing masks on planes,
trains and buses is still needed
for public health. And also that
appealed the decision protects
the public health authority. The
nationwide mask mandate on
trains buses and planes was
strike down Monday by a Trump
appointed judge who thought that
the CDC did not have the
authority to make people wear
masks, even if it might be good
for public health. The Justice
Department and CDC disagrees. So
this evening, the DOJ filed a
notice of appeal in federal
court in Tampa to get the ball
rolling
question, is it so this is
specifically the Department of
Justice's job to go against the
federal judge? Is that is that
is that the typical procedure?
Well, they can go against any
judge they want.
Right. But is it typically the
Department of Justice DOJ who
does that? And then and what
does that mean? It goes to the
next anyone
can do it. Department of
Justice, the one that would be
was the one that was affected
because they're representing the
United States government. Okay.
Department of Justice is the
lawyers for the government.
Okay. I gotcha. And so that, so
this is against the CDC, so
boom, they would take it. Got
it.
So if it was a question of
authority, whether the CDC is
allowed to do this, is it clear
what kinds of powers the CDC
has?
Well, traditionally, the CDC
makes the most use of its soft
powers, you know, Salvesen to
persuade states and individuals
to do things for the sake of
public health, but it also has
hard powers which go back to the
1944 Public Health Service Act.
And the past, the agency has
used these to quarantine
individuals and in this
pandemic, CDC has been using
them to issue broad orders on a
range of things, like making
travelers tests mask to banning
evictions and turning migrants
away at the borders. Dr. Marty
stetron. The CDC is head of
global migration and quarantine
told me last year that this is
new territory for the CDC.
This has has been the largest
and most expansive or inclusive
use of regulatory authority.
Given the unprecedented nature
of this pandemic threat,
no one from CDC would talk on
the record now as these orders
get challenged in court and the
mask ruling was just the latest
defeat.
I thought we had dealt with the
CDC didn't we didn't we all like
when we all laughing at the CDC
because they reversed they
reversed all of their their
positions like overnight clearly
political move, and and it was
all CDC, we need to get rid of
them. They need to have a we
need to have a new organization,
we need to reboot them have
something new. I wonder if
that's part of what this is? You
never know. I mean, he's so
politicized at this point. is as
if the CDC you know, they turn
left there, they say, you know,
this, these Republicans have a
point. No, they don't you should
go. It's hard to say what the
basis of this these craziness is
or are about, but it is totally
political. Was that part? Yeah,
it was too. That was too. Oh,
okay. All right. Threes got the
kicker in it.
Um, like what were some of the
others?
Well, the biggest blow came last
August, when the Supreme Court
ruled that the CDC exceeded its
authority with its ban on
evictions, Lindsey Wiley, health
law professor at UCLA said that
the move was a bit of a stretch
for CDC.
A lot of the general public and
a lot of federal judges feel
like you know, this isn't
exactly what CDC is role should
be. This is something state and
local governments are doing and
it should really be left to
them.
Ultimately, the Supreme Court
said CDC didn't have the
authority to do it, and they
strike it down. Now that was one
ruling on evictions. But law
experts say it had a ripple
effect, lower courts could use
it to limit the CDC has powers
to and the judge in Florida did
cite it this week as she
canceled the travel mask
mandate.
What would that ripple effect do
if the CDCs powers get
restricted? More broadly? What
kind of impact could that have
on public health?
Well, we're all gonna die. They
worry that limiting public
health powers is short sighted.
Here's one department, a health
law professor at Northeastern
University, you can't
assume that everything in
the future is going to look
either epidemiologically or
politically, like what we have
seen.
She says that the next pandemic
could be very deadly to kids or
one where Republicans might want
more restrictive measures than
Democrats as they did during the
Ebola outbreak. She says that
the CDC, right of Paris to deal
with health threats effectively.
Now ultimately, Congress may
need to step in and spell out
the agency's powers. But with
the current political climate,
it's not a clear path.
Yeah, yeah.
So the CDC said no evictions
what is there? What what, what
can it what they're doing?
Military Police in a war zone,
they can't make these sorts of
edicts, and now they're all bent
out of shape because they got
overturned by the Supreme Court.
The whole thing is bogus.
I think Jen Psaki kind of let
the cat out of the bag what this
really is about it's not about
your your health for the next
two weeks or your safety
traveling it's about the future.
And the Department of Justice,
as you noted, has indicated that
they would appeal not just
because they think it's entirely
reasonable of course to have
this additional time to look at
it but because they think that
the current for current and
future public health crises we
want to preserve that that
authority for the CDC to have
just about power it just want to
have it for the next thing they
want to put that in there. It'll
be a bag on your head. They just
wanted to just want this power
holes in it to power from the
faceless nameless
CDC. That's exactly right. They
want to put a bag on your head
and march you around. Yeah.
Nailed it. Yeah.
The flight way I
have a long I haven't longer
clip about the about the appeal.
Oh, let's do that. Let's do it.
You could play it you can cut it
off because this is definitely
was not clipped properly by me.
I can tell by the little Yeah.
Let's listen. The thing is,
it's all up to the Ukrainian
Armed Forces.
Yeah. This is the mask. Yeah.
Yeah. This obviously the front
end of this clip did what did
not belong to Ukrainians is not
part of this clip.
To Ukraine say it's hard to know
exactly how prepared they really
are.
Ukrainians have been okay. I'm
not going to edit your clip. I
do. I do have the representative
of the flight attendants union
and her thoughts and you have to
understand she's she's being
interviewed and she has a big
Starbucks union badge on I don't
know why she's maybe it's just
promoting another Union for the
heck of it. But she gets a
little irritated and I find her
quite irritating and in fact as
well passengers were cheering
and Phil said a lot of crews
were cheering were were you
things to see NBC actually or
was it like everything else in
this country? They were half of
the crew was cheering and the
other half was As was booing
were most flight attendants
happier said that the mass
mandate was lifted for for
for airplanes. Well, look,
Joe, we've been enforcing this
mask mandate, not just since it
was a federal mandate, but for
over two years now. And we put
that in place. Let's not forget
that the airlines put that in
place without any support from
the federal government. Because
we needed to get people to
understand that they could be
safe flying on the plane.
What do you mean, this is this
sounds a little revisionist. He
says we we put the mandate in
place the airline industry put
the mandates in place without
support from the federal
government. It was the federal
government who came up with the
distances and they had this I
remember all the
animation of how many people who
were you had to be for the air
filtration
crate had all these models of
how the airflow worked, and it
was it was totally forced,
without support from the
government shows so
she's pro masks she'd be they do
she's Yeah, I've heard her all
happy as clams because they
don't have to call people out
to people to understand that
they could be safe flying on the
plane. Now we've had certain
mitigation factors since then,
of course, the vaccine, more
access to proper PPE, more
access to testing but you know
on a plane you have to have the
spirit that we're all in this
together everybody has to
practically in dress in order to
show that they're not a security
threat or give no extensive data
to the government so they can
assess that before she laughs I
know I'm glad you caught it
because I want to stop and say
she's talking about everyone has
to show you're not we're all in
this together this this by the
way this is real fascists talk
from this lady. We're all in
this together. You have to give
extend extensive information to
the government about yourself.
Yes, you got that laugh in
there?
Why are you laughing? Lady?
My name is Noemi I'm sorry, to
have the spirit that we're all
in this together everybody has
to practically in dress in order
to show that they're not a
security threat or give
extensive data to the government
so they can assess that before
you go through that those
security checkpoints. And you
have to wear your seatbelt is
not just about you. It's about
protecting everyone around you
because you can be thrown around
and fall down on them. The same
idea. The only reason that this
has been an issue is because it
was so politicized. So I want to
be really clear, you asked me
the question, where do we stand?
We did not take a position on
extending the mass mandate. And
the reason for that is because
you're right. It's split. I have
members and I have actually
passenger a lot of passengers
I'm hearing from this morning,
who are begging us even go on
strike to stop this people are
really upset about it. And I
have other people who have been
waiting and really excited for
this to go away. I have to say
going into the summer months for
flight attendants. It's hard for
maybe somebody flying a couple
hours on a flight to wear a
mask. Imagine people who've been
on the front lines wearing the
mask for 14 1516 hours and
having to enforce it with other
people who are grumbling all the
time. So there's absolutely a
sigh of relief from flight crews
but there's also people who are
really concerned
slanted report and the way it
started off put Where'd you get
this
CMBC Yeah,
so Well, I think there's
something else it offered to
Boeing. I've seen clip after
clip of people in these
airplanes.
Not all cheering booing
Oh boo I want
to wear a mask does it make
sense that well want to wear a
mask wear a mask you had to
boo we have to bear a couple of
things in mind one the mask is
political you got to mask your
cool your damn you're not
wearing a mask you're likely
Republican prop possibly Q anon
that's that's the way it's
perceived
it could be could be
that also in Congress they were
working on a bill for the rowdy
passengers you know this was the
Buddha judge thing instead of
focusing on getting you know
actual pilots and flight
attendants to work and training
new ones because we're going to
be quite short in the 10s of
1000s of pilots certainly no no
no we're we've got to make rules
to punish these rowdy passengers
that's off the table now because
they can't do it the you know
there's there's no more rowdy
passengers is going to end
because the mask mandates will
end you watch all of a sudden
people are going to calm down
not not entirely because we're
still missing way too many TSA
agents so the lines are still
the line saying
people are being stressed
they're stressed at the very
stressed very scripts I'm on an
airplane and a small enclosed
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just one less mass clip, if you
will. Yeah, sure. Let's do I got
one more mass is a local story
from masks on Uber and Lyft.
And, and it's just, it's not a
great clip. It's just like, it's
a hit. It's one of those head
shaking clips. Like why do
people care this much about any
of this? Uber and
Lyft have now dropped their
masking requirements for
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affect their safety. The
rideshare companies are also
allowing customers to sit in the
front passenger seat, which was
previously blocked off. Mohammed
Shafiq Qureshi, who has been an
Uber driver in the Bay Area,
since it launched in 2009. Says
before vaccines were available,
he wanted riders to wear masks,
now that he's vaccinated and
boosted good he is getting more
comfortable driving without a
mask
is depend on the passenger.
Because for example, if you look
say, a little bit scary,
otherwise, you know, I mean, I
have no issue.
Advocates for rideshare drivers,
however, say the move will put
drivers at risk. Some drivers
also may not feel comfortable
asking customers to wear masks
for fear of a bad review.
Did we forget the last two and a
half years of mass debate and we
pass debate. And we know that
they really just aren't that
effective? Did we just
collectively forget this?
I don't know how it works. I've
always thought the same kind of
thing. And we've been doing this
show for 15 years. And I don't
know how it works. I've
concluded that it's like the
very fine people is like these
things have locked in like out
like a bad tick. And just hang
on for dear life. And there's
nothing you can do about it.
You're just stuck. And yeah, and
it'll be in the history but it
doesn't matter.
It's propagandists because it's
a constant message that gets
ever ends. And this is actually
kind of a distraction, because
what the conversation is like
the
gassing and Syria. Yeah,
exactly. It all the line. They
drew a line and they got done.
They got gas, they didn't do
anything. I mean, you just can't
do anything about it. And it's
it's the most frustrating part
about doing these
reports. Well, Captain Bob Snow
was doing something about it.
There was a report about a week
ago, maybe maybe almost two
weeks ago that an Airbus had
landed in. I want to say Dallas
American Airlines and six
minutes after landing, which I
don't know if that was during
taxi or at the gate, the pilot
passed out, I went into full
cardiac arrest was was brought
back to life with three, three
shocks to the heart. And and
this immediately, of course was
blamed on the mandated
vaccinations there was no real.
I didn't see any reporting of
this in mainstream any
whatsoever because why would
they considering who sponsors
them. But Captain Bob Snow has
recorded his own little video,
audios not great, but you'll be
able to hear it. He's in the
ICU, he's all wired up. He's got
everything coming out of him.
My name is Noah and
accountability captain for a
number of years in total service
with the company has over 31
years. On November 7, I was
mandated to receive a vaccine.
Quite literally, I was told if I
did not receive the vaccination,
I would be fired. This was my
director of flight. Also, under
duress, I received the vaccine.
Now, just a few days ago, after
landing in Dallas, and six
minutes after we landed, I
passed out, I coded, I recorded
three shots, I need to be
intubated. I'm now in the ICU in
Dallas. This is what the vaccine
has done for me, I will probably
never fly again, based upon the
criteria that the FAA
establishes for pilots, I was
hoping to teach my daughter to
fly, she wants to be a pilot,
that will probably never happen.
All courtesy of the vaccine.
This is unacceptable. And I'm
one of the victims, you can see
that this is actual results from
the vaccine for some of us
mandatory no questions asked,
give it a shot, or you're fired.
This is not the American way.
Now typically, we'd say with
this kind of truth bomb, you
might want to be careful of
flying small aircraft and stay
away from hot tubs. In this
case, I'd like to recommend
maybe get out of the ICU. Yeah,
yeah, the fact that this guy has
too many good TV shows where
somebody comes in just puts the
pillow over your head and walks
out casually.
You know, and now we're seeing
hepatitis popping up everywhere
massive increase in Europe,
Australia, New Zealand chronic
COVID is very aids like as an
acquired immune deficiency
disease. Not not not necessarily
HIV that gives you aids but aids
and people are there their
immune systems appear to be shot
and blown out with Australia New
Zealand keep record that the
politicians that health
professionals actually say is
that 40% rise in cardiac arrest.
We didn't know what it is. It's
crazy.
It's unbelievable. Nice, crazy
talk.
But it doesn't matter because
we're just going to improve the
product people promising
news from Maderna standard is
new and improved. COVID shot
works better than the original
vaccine. Oh, it's new and could
change how we get boosters in
the future with Jonathan is at
Mount Sinai Morningside hospital
here in Manhattan force. Good
morning with
Michael Good morning to you.
While this new booster shot is
not yet available to the public,
it's an important step as
Maderna works to create a
stronger booster in the future
that can stand up to multiple
variants. Maderna announcing
this new and improved booster
works better than the original.
It's a so called by Vaillant
booster, meaning it targets two
different variants. In this
case, the shot was specifically
designed against the original
and beta variants. But lab
studies showed promising results
across multiple variants of
concern, including Omicron with
a two fold increase in
antibodies compared to the
original shot. And those
antibodies stayed high for six
months. Now. Maderna is also
working on an Omicron specific
booster study results are
expected sometime this summer.
But experts are hopeful that a
booster of this kind could be
ready to roll out to the general
public by fall, Robin
encouraging all right, well,
thank you,
Dan. COURAGING, the by valen
booster. Yeah, they're not
stopping this is not going to
stop. They want the power to do
it again. Maybe it'll be bird
flu, I don't know, something.
They just
want is jacked up about this,
this technology to the extent
that they're covering up
everything. And they're using
the humans, you know, the basic
human population as a testbed.
And they're not stopping because
there's they must see something
in this. That is really
promising. I mean, you laugh.
Yeah. But they just not doing it
because they're ogres I mean,
there must be something
positive. I mean, they can't be
that just pure evil. I mean,
it's got to be something a plot
there has to be some plus side
to it
I'm pretty sure that most of the
people who do this reporting and
their producers and everyone
who's who's on the beat they
they believe it they just
believe it all. They're into it,
the dig in it. And then there's
no but I'm talking about behind
the scenes dig that the real
people that know what the hell's
going on know that this is a
fiasco.
I'm questioning how many people
really know this, or really
believe it or just the audits
Russian disinformation?
telling you I think most people
are in denial. I'm not going to
argue that. But when these
documents come out, showing this
to horrendous, you know, results
and things that it should have
been it, that lesser products
had been taken off the market
permanently for achieving Yeah,
it's just something's,
something's wrong unless there's
some true sense of this is some
sort of thing that will save us
from reptilian genes or
something. I have no idea.
Well, the idea is certainly to
get it into everybody's body,
that's for sure. mRNA forever.
That's, that's, that is the
push. And that's been a push
from the pharmaceutical industry
for a long time. We've played
enough clips from them over the
years saying, God be great if we
could get gene therapy in
everybody's body. Wouldn't it be
great we could we could fix them
we could we could make them
better improve them.
Yeah, you make people a
platform. There's just been
busting
this the smart ass podcast,
which I do have
people out there that will
understand why that Oh, I know
what the buses
the smart ass podcast I'd never
heard before. But I think I'm
going to start listening to it
is a trio of very, very famous
people who do this podcast,
Jason Bateman. Will Arnett and
Sean Hayes and Jason Bateman, of
course, Ozarks and Teen Wolf
three. Will Arnett many, many
things Saturday Night Live
course. And Sean Hayes willing
grace. And it's kind of a fun
podcast. But it was really
interesting to hear how they
missed entirely what is going on
with testing. And this is Sean
Hayes. He's explaining how he
needed to get a test because
he's on Broadway, or he's in the
theater. And he has to have a
test every single day to go into
the theater and performing the
stage. And he got the run
around, and it just doesn't
click for them. What's really
going on here I have a list
of crazy. So when I go to the
theater, I have to have a COVID
test every week, right? And so
still, and so I missed this one
day. So they said oh, you have
to go just go to one of these,
like free clinic places. Okay,
so I Google it. It says you can
come in for you know, just like
walk in, you have to make an
appointment. So I walk in, and
I'm not kidding you guys.
There's no buddy there. And the
woman standing right when you
walk out goes to an appointment.
No. And she goes, you have to
make an appointment. I go, but I
said walk in she goes yeah, but
you'd have to make one. So you
can go back outside and scan the
little digital thing on your
phone. And I go you're joking me
right now. Because No, I know
you want me to walk outside?
Yeah. So I walk out I go watch
this. And I looked at her
through the glass through the
door.
Never never broke eye contact.
This sounds like a
real Bateman. I was so angry.
Picture thing, and I'm filling
it out just giving her evil
looks while I'm filling this
out. I log in all my
information. I walk in she goes
Can I help you? She wasn't even
kidding. She goes Do you have an
appointment? Was it easy
McClary. Like oh, wait, this is
a joke. So she goes yeah, I have
an appointment. She goes right
over here to a line that doesn't
exist. And then this guy at the
front desk is like Do you have
an appointment? I go yes, I do.
You say great. And then he tells
me to go wait in this other
line, there's no line, it's just
a thing to go get tested.
They're really missing the
communist nature of what is
taking place here. You need to
get a test for your work. And
you have to scan the QR code you
have to go through the procedure
these this is this is like
secret. This is the the merchant
class in complete compliance and
obedience with the government
taking your information, passing
it on making sure we know
everything about you fill out
more information stand in line.
It's funny now because he has to
do a test for his theater. It's
not going to be so funny when
it's for food. And other things
couple of things. This is
reminiscent some comedy bits
I've seen where the you know,
the person says goes to order at
the at the at the window and the
guy says Does the pickup window
you gotta go Go to the ordering
window. And so the guy goes over
the ordering window. Same guy
does Okay, I'll take your orders
and then you know, I mean it's
in other words is it's a facade.
It's bull crap and that's what
was going on with this. But I
think they missed it. And it is
a stretch but it's an
interesting theory. I think they
miss the communist nature of it
of the bull crap. The phony
baloney bureaucracy, the phony
go out, do this, but you could
just do it right here in front
of me. Because they're in New
York, and New York has been
turned into a communist city
states.
Well, we are going to New York.
So I can't I can't wait to bring
a full report after we we
arrived tomorrow in the
communist state of New York. But
there's there's more man with
these QR codes. This is a
quickie possible
sign of the future in sports.
Check out the jerseys worn by
the University of Central
Florida's football team during
their spring game unique QR
codes replace numbers on their
backs. Fans can scan the code to
learn more about the players
technology I tell you.
Yeah, I tell you how long before
we have to wear a QR. This is
better. A yellow QR code is
better than a yellow star. So
you can just yeah, just me scan
you. So it was normal. We scan
football players,
we should all have QR codes on
our on our clothing. Yes.
Clothing badges. So they can be
square bags, they may square
badges, square button pins
perfect pin one on this year's
QR code and you have to have the
right one or you can get fined.
Yes, it's gonna be great. It's
perfect. Ah, let me see. Oh, no,
I don't I don't think I have
anything else on COVID. And it's
just just kind of where we're
at. So I I know that the mass
mandate will not be overturned
is that's not for now. That's
for future future use. And
they're still working on some
vaccines was kind of a taken a
backseat but still pushing,
pushing, pushing. We got cases,
cases cases. Do you think that
we'll have an outbreak by the
summer or we're just going to
wait until fall as usual?
I'm not looking forward to are
seeing an outbreak coming. I
think things over ice predict
this? And no, I'm
not talking about real. I'm
talking about politically
driven.
i They? Well, let's see that
midterms are coming in and
primaries are coming in June.
They're they're gonna I don't
think there's gonna do anything
because I think this they have
mixed input from this
specialists that you know, the,
whether you call them these
political strategists that come
on the TV, but they have these
political strategists, and
they're all going to talk to
each other and say, What, should
we do an outbreak? I mean, we
could do it. But was that going
to hurt our chances? And they're
not going to do anything?
They're not going to do anything
they can't take a chance of,
you're already in trouble. Yeah,
I think that I mean, what the
one thing I could say if I was
the strategist, I suggest the
following look. It's just a
risky one because we're in
trouble. I'm a Democrat
strategist. Just for this
purposes of this argument. We're
kind of in trouble. everyone
kind of knows we're in trouble.
We're going to lose a lot of
seats. We're going to lose
probably the house for sure. And
the Senate probably also so
we're going to Joe Biden is
going to be well that's pretty
good. Because Joe is you know is
does a lousy job anyway
solicited be great. And I worry
we can blame the Republicans for
nothing happening. But But do we
want to lose that that much
power in these in these hearings
and all the rest that we've been
doing because they'd be flipped?
Everyone will be run by the
Republicans? Now? We could
there's one thing we could do.
We could have a pandemic re
hurt, redo, and then shut down.
Make people stay inside again
and force mail in ballots
because we know how that works.
And we control the outcome. That
that's the only shot we have.
No, they have one other shot.
The one other shot and it's on
deck. I mean, if you follow the
follow the logic of the World
Economic Forum, but also just we
need to do something to curtail
the inflation. The last what we
know we've explained it with
Putin is price hike. We tried to
stop we the central banks and
whoever else involved. The
douchebags of the world, locked
down the economy suppress
everything that was really
trying to keep inflation out of
sight. The next thing on the
agenda is the cyber pandemic.
And 60 minutes is right there.
Tonight there's
growing concern about Russian
threats here at home, US
authorities warned that the
Kremlin could launch cyber
attacks on American soil.
Experts say this could impact
everything from public transit
to banks to the energy sector
for 60 minutes. CBS is Bill
Whitaker spoke with Dimitri
Petrovich, the Moscow born co
founder of the cybersec curity
company CrowdStrike and a member
of the Homeland Security
Advisory Council.
I just need to stop here for a
second. So it's clearly Putin
who's driving the forthcoming
bringing down our electric grid
and anything else banking
sector, you name it. So let's
talk to the guy who was born in
Russia is in Ukraine, in Ukraine
and works for CrowdStrike. The
one of the most controversial
this was in CrowdStrike with
some other hokey
no CrowdStrike CrowdStrike
CrowdStrike. But
she said, I thought she said
something else. Listen,
what occurs spoke with Dimitri
Petrovich, the mosquito borne co
founder of the cybersecurity
company CrowdStrike and a member
of the Homeland Security.
Red Cross strike. No, it's
CrowdStrike the same people
CrowdStrike we know them. We've
been following them since day
one. Yeah.
So let's, let's get a Russian
born guy. I'm just gonna be a
douche about it. You know, a
Russian born guy who operates
from from Ukraine, or did
operate. This is where
CrowdStrike was founded in
Ukraine. There's still plenty of
belief that the DNC server that
Seth Rich guy killed over just
gonna say it, they still in
possession of, of CrowdStrike.
Anyway, let's hear what he has
to say about this horrible
threat that is looming.
So all of these things they can
do. What is the one thing that
troubles you the most and attack
on the oil and gas industry
where they go after the safety
systems again, and it can cause
cascading effects and fires and
potential explosions and people
die?
You would require a response
from us now?
I'm gonna I'm gonna disagree
with this thesis of yours as
soon as you if you want to
finish this clip or not. This is
not a strategy that Democrats
can employ.
Oh, I didn't say I didn't say it
was the Democrats. I
specifically said this is about
the financial state of affairs
and they need to curtail
inflation.
Oh, no, I'm talking about the
Democrats getting not getting
destroyed in the in the this
one. I started off with a theory
that if you're a strategist,
yes, crushed in the midterms. If
if we shut down things, then
you're right back to paper
ballots. And who knows what else
we'll close down if if something
really happens, I'm just saying
that we have been promised the
cyber pandemic you take Klaus
though you're right, we've been
promised that it has no one's
delivered yet. So let's
let's listen to what's coming.
And it can cause cascading
effects and fires and
potentially explosions and
people die.
You would require a response
from us that, as you were saying
could escalate
it absolutely what
not just a cyber war, but a real
war.
It's a real concern. And the
reality is that we have seen the
Russians in cyberspace, do some
things that we thought, were
just nuts, that were so
provocative, so escalatory, that
sometimes you look at that, and
you say, who's controlling these
guys? You know, when the United
States launches operations,
there's an army of lawyers, that
is going to be approving every
step of that operation. And
asking, Are you going to cause
any civilian casualties? Are you
going to do anything that's
disproportionate? They don't
have any of that in Russia. And
that can lead us down a very
dark path.
I'm calling bull crap on this.
Boy, that's a great we have an
army of lawyers when we're doing
cyber operations to make sure
it's on the up and up. If it's
really war. If it's really war
than this, the rules are off the
table. There's more to this
joins us now from New York. That
sounds really alarming.
alarming, you point out that the
Russians have already targeted a
refinery in the past, right?
That right? Yes, they have Nora,
in 2017 Russian hackers launched
a cyber attack against a huge
oil refinery in Saudi Arabia
that targeted those safety
control systems. In this case,
the hackers made a small coding
mistake, and they ended up
shutting down the refinery
instead of triggering a deadly
explosion.
That doesn't sound like expert
Russians.
But the experts have told us
Russian hackers learn from their
mistakes.
Oh, wait a minute. So do we just
heard a moment ago that the
Russians are the best ever they
do crazy shit, you have no idea
how good they are? And now it's
like, oh, they made a mistake.
What are we talking about? We're
talking about what we what we
mentioned on the shows for a
week and a half ago. This is the
new malware that's been
discovered. Yeah, it's
really interesting. And do we
know is there any indication
that Russians are preparing for
a similar cyber attack now?
Well, just last week, the US
government issued a warning
about a new piece of malware
dubbed pipe dream. One
cybersecurity expert told us the
initial targets are liquefied
natural gas and electric power
sites in North America. The
malware is suspected to be of
Russian origin and is far more
advanced and versatile than what
was used in Saudi Arabia.
Before before you continue, you
have to reiterate what you
played with things in the last
show. One of our guys wrote in
one of our dudes named Ben,
who's on this stuff,
dudes man named Ben named Ben
protector of megawatts.
And he said that he looked at
the code on some of this stuff
that seems to be inserted here
and there. And as an American,
yes, you said it certainly
didn't look Russian. And he
says, It looks like our guys,
now, I've received two producer
messages that go a little bit
against this theory. So what we
know about this malware is that
it's like a Swiss army knife.
And it can, it has rootkits for
all these different SCADA and
scatter machines. So they sit in
between, in between the command
and control of what you want to
have happen in your power plant,
your boiler temperature control,
valves that are open, and in and
the physical world. So between
the digital world of how we
control things, and then the
actual valves that have to be
mechanically changed and turned.
So the first note we got from
one of our producers, his his
father, used to be in the
business. And he says, oh, you
know, because we mentioned the
brand names of these
controllers, that the machines
that that would suppose they
were infected with malware. And
he says, oh, you know, back in
the day, the US government
actually introduced malware
themselves into the scatter and
PLCs with the intention of
sabotaging Iran's uranium
enrichment process.
Yeah, we actually talked about
that a long time ago, long time
ago.
And so he says, it's, it's
there's malware in all of these
systems. And it was put in by
the US specifically for the
purpose of stopping Iran.
Another note comes from one of
our producers, who says, take a
look at the documentary zero
days from 2016. And it turns out
that it's not just the US, but
really, a lot of governments
have malware in these machines.
So I don't know if we should be
concerned if it's just business,
as usual, over is just a ticking
time bomb that anybody can trip.
It doesn't seem to be so
spectacular right now. Even Even
if this isn't the pipe dream,
there's stuff in there that can
be tripped by apparently,
multiple governments.
Yeah, that we'll find out one of
these days. Yeah, when the power
goes out, but you don't care.
I do not. I'm good. I do not
care. Now. I'm good, man. I'm
totally good,
is dynamite.
And with that, I'd like to thank
you for your courage and say in
the morning to you, the man who
put the sea in scatter and
scatter systems. Ladies and
gentlemen, please say hello to
Mr. John C. Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam curry. Also in the morning,
I'll shift to see who's on the
ground feed the air subs in the
water. And all the names that
nice out there.
What happened to your Echo
system? I miss it.
Did you not use any echo system?
You should have picked this up
by now I thought that means I
had not opened a spreadsheet.
Oh, and I'm busily clicking.
Okay, now. I don't know what you
do. I've never seen your studio.
I've never been in any avenue in
your in your living room once. I
don't know anything. But if I
saw you on the street, I
wouldn't even recognize you.
Yeah, well you do that. Let me
say in the morning to the troll
room. As far as I know. We have
one person from Europe from
Heidelberg, Germany I was
looking at who was to here's the
half let's count him for a
second here. Come on trolls
hands up. Let me see me see we
got what are you working with
today? Come on. 2178 It's a
Thursday we'll take it very
nice. Good to see you all
trolls. They hang out at troll
room.io where you can join us
free to join us to get right in
there you can listen to the
stream live stream no agenda
stream.com. And in the troll
room troll along troll each
other troll me troll. You can't
troll John because he doesn't
watch. But but it's 24/7 the
stream so there's a lot of live
live shows people who do their
podcast live and also repeats or
just a great 24 hours seven
stream of good stuff. And I
recommend you go check it out.
Especially if you're a troll.
I've thought about not you know
I but actually following the
troll room and doing Horowitz
runs one two, and I don't do it.
And I've decided that if I was
watching it and your wife were
both watching, I think it would
it would ruin the pacing of the
show.
Oh totally. And you know, and
I'll be honest that in the past
couple of months. The trolls
have not been super helpful
usually. So I was disappointed
when it came to the The Auto
sear we had no idea what it's
about. And I have I have a way
of
perfect example, I know exactly
what you're gonna say they
should have clued us in right
there on the spot.
All I got was well it could be a
Glock see 18 could be you know
all but not not that I saw it
because I have a, I have a third
eye that looks at the troll
room. And in this case, I was
staring right at it. Like we
don't know what's going on here.
And all I saw the other
undefined mistakes. Control room
should have corrected and we've
had to do a mia culpa slagging
off
people. Yeah. Right, get on the
ball. Now we love our trolls.
And another well actually would
work very well, although not in
a live situation was no agenda
social.com That's where we
learned about the auto seers and
the Glock switches. Man, you
guys are good. And I didn't I
didn't think we got a lot of
negative corrections. It was
like, Oh, this is pretty new.
These are flooding now flooding
all the cities and people had
different reports. So it was
really good. I was surprised
that we had never heard of it
before. It's something I would
expect our premises were down
Tom stock
was Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we
did. No agenda social.com is a
mastodon instance, it's on the
fediverse It's completely open
this protocol. Anybody can start
a server, you can register with
many Mastodon servers, and then
you can follow Jhansi Dvorak at
no agenda. social.com and Adam
had no agenda social.com and
join the conversation. And I
think we're going to open up the
instance again, since you know
we've purged old accounts once
again, people who just go away
and we have our limit at 10,000
I think we'll be able to take
three more people coming up
soon. Then we want to thank the
artist for episode 1443 titled
Elon sandwich and no doubt that
when we saw the the artwork page
this is the submissions done by
our producers, no agenda art
generator.com. You one look at
the Taunton Neil album art, and
you just had to crack up. And
this was our President Joe Biden
with with an eggshell on his
head with Merry Christmas. And
it was I mean, we both cracked
up when we saw this.
I mean, there was a lot of art
we liked or could use, but we
actually both of us literally,
black. Last piece.
Now I laughed a little harder
for a different reason. Because
you don't know the context of
the eggshell on the head. And I
do because Taunton, Neil is
Dutch. And growing up, I think
it may still be on TV somewhere.
There was an Italian cartoon,
and I'm talking 73 When I think
I first saw this, and the
Italian cartoon was of a little
black chicken little chick with
an eggshell on his head, just
like the one Biden has. And the
chicks name was Callie Miro. And
Colin mero would always get
bullied. And and the the line
was saying, quote, and Ethan
Klein and others need a lick,
which is they're big and I'm
small, and that's not fair. And
this was the whole cartoon. So
she put the collar Miro eggshell
on Joe Biden, a genius move.
international success.
I liked the dimensionality of
it was really good. We
appreciate it Taunton a great
job. There weren't. Of course,
there were other things that we
liked. I
liked mooses piece which had Joe
Biden in a bunny costume out in
front of the White House. Easter
Joe, I thought that piece was
funny. He just looks so silly.
It was there was a couple of
things we were going to discuss
which is named Kenny bands whose
art I use for the newsletter.
Her use of clip art is getting
to the point, which is it's is
it's becoming a trope. And we're
shying away from
it. John at divorce iq.org
You're the one who first
suggested it.
I don't know anything about
that. What do you mean this is
all you? Okay, nevermind. What I
liked was the No, we did discuss
this. When which one was it?
It was the Easter Bunny, which
was a piece I liked a lot. The
Easter Bunny creeping up on too
scared eggs. And that piece was
called Happy Easter.
Right? I see it here. Now we
know that she licenses the
clipart but when I saw it, it
was like, it looks like well
assembled clipart in I don't
know. It's just a personal
thing. I think that because you
don't have the oh gosh, I'm just
gonna dig the hole deeper here.
But because you don't have that
element of you creating it
quickly on the fly. You know
doing sometimes more. It's
almost overproduced, how about
that? It's almost like it's too
too produced to be out to be our
album art does that mean the
thing
about yes this is interesting
because we while we appreciate
this is an interesting from a
perspective of, and we're not
art directors but we are and
artists never get to hear this
kind of conversation at probably
going on constantly. Yeah, it's
while we liked the avant garde
Surfer Magazine art that we've
been picking on an AW, it's just
wild looking. It's like wow,
this is pretty. This is just
extremely creative. It has it
all that type of art always has
kind of a sloppy quality to it.
It doesn't look over produced.
And over produces is what Adam
means by it is pretty much what
I think about it too, which is
slick. to an extreme. Yeah. To
the point where it's like too
slick. And is it we see this
when you see it with with
musical band you see this with
videos you see it with on TV
once in a while, where something
is just like, kind of makes you
itch. It's so too slick. It's
this guy's or there's way too
professional showing off. And
on the other side of that, we
had art by Jordan, the no agenda
with the egg. That was in fact,
just a tad under produced.
Because I really liked that
piece.
Well, this is the audio we got
into before I sold Adam, more or
less on the merry crew. We we
still we didn't we sold each
other on that on the Biden pm
because but you were jacked up
about this one piece, which was
a big it's called a jacked up
was rejected by you were jacked
up art by Jordan. And it's just
no agenda with it. Oh, is a big
brown egg. And my complaint was
it didn't have an Easter egg. We
want these kinds of shows as
special shows. Especially we
want an Easter, something about
Easter skyray some Easter angle.
And this egg was not if it was
decorated or something anything.
It was just too much just an
egg. It was clean. It was a very
professional, clean looking
thing. This is something you'd
pay. You'd pay a studio for as
simple as it is. You liked that
piece. I liked it too. But I
did. I was missing that. And I
would
say more Jide than jacked up to
be honest. To me, that was Judy
with it. We appreciate Taunton,
Neil, but all of the work that
everybody does. And again, we're
this critique is only to make it
better. And I think it's a
valuable service we send back to
the artists,
nobody, let's just put it this
way, not one of the artists and
we have plenty have bitched and
moaned about our critique, they
may disagree with it. And
sometimes we'll get a note, but
with an explanation, saying, Oh,
you missed a point, which does
happen. But generally speaking,
they appreciate it. Yes, at
least we hope so. And
put, you know, the whole we
think the whole prayer. Well,
the whole premise of the value
for value model, which is what
we run on here is time, talent,
treasure, and it has to be a
complete feedback loop. And
also, you're not called
listeners, you're not called
fans, you're not called an
audience. Some of you are called
trolls, rightfully so. But in
general, you're all producers.
And when someone sends me a
clip, I'll be like, Okay, if
someone goes to the trouble,
even if they goes to the trouble
of putting a clip together, if
it's no good, I'm gonna say
okay, here's what you didn't do,
right? Here's how you can do
better in the future. And and I
don't think anyone takes offense
to that because you're
producing. That's exactly what
it is. And some producers are
out of sight good. So it's all
meant to make the product better
the product is for all. Now
before we get into thanking our
executive and Associate
Executive producers, I did want
to a shield for podcasting. 2.0
as I usually do around this
time, and the reason I'm doing
it today is if you are listening
to this podcast on anything but
a modern podcast app, or any
podcast, you might want to
reconsider your choice, and use
a modern podcast app from new
podcast apps.com. The deep
platforming is coming. It's
already here. I think Spotify
and Apple these are the two main
apps are going to probably
adhere to the policy
recommendations from the
Brookings Institution who wrote
quite a nice paper. I will heart
these are policy recommendations
for addressing content
moderation in podcasts. It's a
wonderful piece. You must you
must read this. I'll just
highlight one. debates over
content moderation in podcasts
hinge primarily on whether and
how widely to share They're so
called lawful but awful content.
You see, now we have categories
like it. I love
it lawful, awful
awful.
It's awesome buddy dreamed that
one up and they've been sitting
on it
major podcasting apps the
applications commonly used on
smartphones, tablets and
computers to listen and download
the podcast episodes already
have policies and procedures in
place to deal with blatantly
illegal content. Spotify or
Apple's podcast won't knowingly
distribute an Islamic state
recruitment podcast, since doing
so would open them to
prosecution for supporting a
designated terrorist group. How
podcasting apps should handle
hate speech, misinformation, and
related content that is legal,
but may have harmful societal
effects is far less clear. And,
and then they have a quantifier
why this is so important. Today,
nearly a quarter a quarter John
25% of the US population gets
their news from podcasts. Now
you see why everyone's role
market. As that figure continues
to rise, the content moderation
policies of major podcasting
apps will need to mature
accordingly. Podcasts are now a
mass medium, yet the content
moderation policies and
reporting mechanisms of many
podcasting apps remain
remarkably underdeveloped, as do
the regulatory frameworks that
oversee them. And these two
jokes, who turn out our
artificial intelligence data
scientists, they are
recommending all kinds of
algorithmically driven stuff. Of
course,
well, we don't have to worry
about that.
No, we don't because Sure, you
can probably still get us on
Apple podcasts, not on Spotify.
But we will always be available
on the podcasting 2.0 apps, and
you should probably consider
doing that. Besides the fact
that you have all of these great
extra features new podcast
apps.com. Now we want to thank
our first executive producer of
episode 1444. Jeremy slate from
Newton, New Jersey comes in with
$900 He's got a blue box and
he's got a purple box. That
means stuff is happening with
Jeremy slate. Let's see. Thanks.
Here's his no thanks to Adam for
being did I say he gave us $900
in support? Yeah, he's
fantastic. Thanks to Adam for
being in my posh Newton, New
Jersey. I'd ask you.
I think it's Northwest New
Jersey. Thanks to Adam for being
on my podcast this week. Oh,
that's right. Yes. Jeremy Slade
podcast was this this is Oh
goodness. I did it just the
other day. He had he I have to
say he had been hounding me. A
very smart man. He he he's he
approached me and he you know
for the reminders this the
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I'm working towards my official
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scholarly try one of my history
professors a cowboy. He said you
want to understand American
history. You can't understand it
at all, if you don't read the
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basic questions to members of my
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it's in the school books. So
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sure what the what the
relationship is other than the
this was a worksheet and you
have two assignments on this
worksheet. One is to color all
of the bugs that are shown on
the page that outlines of bugs
color their legs and wings red,
and then draw a sandwich with
the insect you would like to
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Well, we've got some, I wanted
some, some Ukrainian stuff.
Yes, I have some Ukrainian stuff
to do to inverse, I
want to read it got this. I got
the debrief today. This is the
newsletter I give by defense
one.
We have talked a little more
into the mic, John, you're
really turning away.
I gotta move the mic, actually,
cuz I can't read this at the
same time. This is a debrief
from defense when they talk
about, I guess they're pushing
for another, we talked about the
800 million additional tears, it
also pushes the total US
military aid to give over the $4
billion mark since Biden took
office and more than 3.4 billion
since the invasion began. It
looks as though the next batch
of aid or require some
congressional approval. We're
just throwing money at these
guys.
This is what I heard was there's
enough so we and these are
packages, remember packages. We
had an $800 million package. And
now there's another $800 million
package coming.
And 3.4 billion could be this is
the set. This is the one that
includes the 70 to 155
millimeter howitzers, which
we're told are just marine
surplus 144,000 artillery
rounds, because you know,
they're not shooting in these
rounds into Russia. These are
rounds that are being shot into
Ukraine to further wreck the
place.
Yeah. But is that really true,
John? I'm not even when I I've
been hooked. No, I
mean, they could be selling
them. That's what I would.
Here's what I'm thinking.
Because the thing that irritates
me is package they keep talking
about package. What if the
packages don't actually get
unpacked in Ukraine? You know,
this whole thing could be a
weapons smuggling operation to
overthrow some or take charge of
some country in Africa. Yeah, I
would. I would not surprise me.
This is this is weird come out
in the water. Yeah, this is very
weird, this packages of weapons.
Now, there's one little thing in
this report that really got my
attention, because there's
something screwy about it and
it's not being explained by the
mainstream. Related reading. It
says that this is a quote,
Russia says it controls Mara,
Mario, Laura Hoopoe, but
Ukrainian troops hold out in a
steel plant via the Wall Street
Journal reporting. And Putin
claims Mariupol claims that
Mario will win but won't storm
the Ukrainian hold out. And
that's what the Associated Press
says. And this is update, Russia
is playing to pray through
Mariupol for a Victory Day on
May 9, after making grinding
progress against the remaining
Ukrainian defenders. In Mara you
pools as off stole steal works
now. So the guys that the last
of the brigades of the Ukrainian
Nazi regime, or whatever it is,
these soldiers, they know enough
that this steel works is so
important to the Russians, that
they can go in there and hold up
because normally you'd think all
these guys are at they're all
here. Let's just flatten the
place. Yeah. Wouldn't you do
that? Sure. But they refuse to
do that. So there's something up
with this steel plant. I would
like some mainstream or somebody
that does reporting somebody
that might be over there. Tell
me what the hell's going on here
with this steel plant, and why
the Russians can't get these
guys out of there. And why don't
they just flatten it?
Well, the guy that would have
been able to answer that for you
has gone missing. Have you ever
seen Gonzalo Lyra and his his
update? They
do azimoff Whatever the name of
this group is as they cancel him
and killed him.
We're not sure but I have a
report on him.
Now a Chilean American
journalist who's been covering
the conflict from inside Ukraine
has reportedly gone missing in
the city of hark of fellow
reporters now fear for his life
saying Gonzalo lira has been out
of contact since last Friday.
Meanwhile, one of Ukraine's
nationalist leaders has posted a
series of tweets in his private
account mockingly claiming the
journalist might have been
abducted and killed by quote,
some guy with the callsign
chili. GONZALO lira is 54 years
old and has been living in
Ukraine for the past few years.
He was in Kyiv when the conflict
erupted in February and then
traveled to Hong Kong to cover
the fighting then, he has
repeatedly called criticize the
Ukrainian government and armed
forces for their actions. At the
end of March he tweeted that the
that he called The Truth About
Zelinsky regime adding he might
disappear as it as did other
critics of Kyiv. Some of whom
were later found dead.
Yeah, so we don't know exactly.
Yes, no reporting is because
they Yeah, they didn't like the
guy. They didn't like him. Well,
yeah. Reporter does his job.
This is a risk you take?
Yeah. I don't know if he was a
real reporter. He was doing real
reporting. But he was not not
paid by any anybody as far as I
didn't know what he did,
actually. Or does hope he's
okay. Sucks.
He's not okay.
Yeah, so do you. I have some
Ukraine stuff. What are you
leading into something here? You
got something
I just did. I just wanted to
start with this. Because there's
these mysteries that are
starting to crop up. You pointed
out one of them. where's the
where's the stuff going? Yeah,
they've asked two or three
people and they say why we can't
say it's national security.
What No, actually, it's worse
than that. I have a quote here.
We have a this is who was this?
Someone from the Defense
Department. We have fidelity and
tracking the weapons packages,
we have fidelity for a short
time, but when it enters the fog
of war, we have almost zero the
weapons often fall into a quote
big black hole.
Uh huh. Yeah, I don't see how
you
can barcode RFID tags on him
that might help. I just don't
see any evidence of them being
used in any warfare. All we see
is well here's what Russia did.
Here's what Russia did Russia
destroy this Russia? Yeah, we
need more. We need more. We need
more to do. I never see him
firing. I never see any. I just
never seen it. Well, here's
the Ukraine renewed, renewed
supplies report.
A senior defense official says
18 howitzers the US promised
Ukraine are now arriving in
Eastern Europe is NPR is Greg
Myrie reports. The massive
artillery guns are seen as
critical for looming bowels in
eastern Ukraine.
We should probably put QR codes
on this Howard sir. So we could
imagine a house with a QR code.
A man would track this down the
supply chain us flights
carrying some of the howitzers
arrive Tuesday in an unspecified
country near Ukraine. The US
official said adding that more
we're on the way. The US has
already training Ukrainians in a
nearby country on how to use the
155 millimeter artillery guns.
Ukraine says it desperately
needs such heavy weaponry. And
Russia is moving more of its own
artillery into eastern Ukraine,
where ongoing fighting is
expected to escalate. The US
official said quote, artillery
is going to be critical in this
fight. Also, the US has provided
spare aircraft parts that have
allowed Ukraine to repair and
return to service more than 20
of its own war planes in the
past three weeks.
or so. We're sending over
howitzers. And you know, that's
been it's been making, we're
making a big deal out of the
packages, the weapons packages,
but then you get this from
Russia.
Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin is
showing off the latest addition
to his nuclear arsenal test
launching a new intercontinental
ballistic missile. He said it's,
quote The food for thought for
those who threaten Russia, why
don't
we send over some ICBMs to the
Ukrainians let them like that
shit off? Let's see how that
goes.
We'll want to do that.
During the Oscars, was the
Oscars. No, the Grammy Awards
I'm sorry. The President of
Ukraine did a little little
speech little thing on video.
And he promoted and throughout
the entire show was the stand up
for Ukraine stand up for Ukraine
remember this
standard? It was it was an
embarrassment? Well, it's it's
gotten a little what's more
interesting actually stand up
for Ukraine is a is a campaign
from Global Citizen, global
citizen.org These are the people
who do the big kumbaya concert
in Central Park this broadcast
live and mainly Disney related
or ABC, even sometimes CBS, MSM
maybe it's it's just all
mainstream. If you look at the
partners of global citizen, I'll
just go to the page read you a
couple of the names. We have
core partners, Procter and
Gamble, Cisco Verizon Delta,
Live Nation, Accenture,
Citibank, Google Salesforce,
Coca Cola weightwatchers
worldwide technology Hilton
Hotels worldwide, Coca Cola, it
goes on and on. So this is a
global globalist operation
global citizens. Yeah, its
usual suspects the same kind of
issue sponsors you see on the
Olympics.
Laureen Lauren Powell Jobs is a
big supporter. She gives them a
lot of money. And on April 8,
which was recent Hundreds of
1000s of global citizens came
together to stand up for Ukraine
resulting in billions of dollars
pledged for refugees. Now, we
must act to help prevent the
global food crisis that is
coming because of this conflict.
We just repeat that. Now we must
act to help prevent the global
food crisis that is coming
because of this conflict. And
this is in the context of stand
up for Ukraine. So I'm not sure
if they wanted to raise money
for Ukraine or for everybody
else who's going to be hungry.
They do have an impact report.
And the top line is the global
social media rally brought this
is their campaign brought
together hundreds of 1000s of
global citizens, including
artists, athletes, actors and
creators to stand up for
Ukraine. Their voices and
actions helped make sure that
billions of dollars were
committed during a pledge summit
to help refugees from Ukraine
around the world. Well, this
summit was run by the European
Union. In fact, by the President
of the EU, Starfleet Command
herself Ursula von der Leyen.
Here she is, as if she's hosting
a game show
final tally. I think you are no
boss. No, you are the boss. The
president. I'm definitely not
the president. I might suppose
to. Okay, let me have a look at
the figures. I see. So whoa,
whoa. We have finally, the world
has finally pledged 9.1 billion
euros through this campaign. In
addition, hold on. In addition,
the Commission working with EBRD
adds another billion for the
IDPs in Ukraine. This is
fantastic. So 10.1 euros and if
you say that in dollars, it's
even more
Slyke slam at the US. So they
raised a total of what says
you're 9.1 billion euros the
global campaign has raised 9.1
billion euros for people fleeing
the Russian invasion inside
Ukraine and abroad. What I can't
find is how they will give this
money out.
I just can't find it will never
find it.
And what is the point other than
a kumbaya let's all feel good
about what we're doing for
Ukraine. where's the money
going? I thought I thought it
was for food for the coming food
crisis. So this is this is a
global scale. Something's going
on here. That's reasonable
scale.
Reason gets monies anyway okay.
This is this is people are
scroungers at the highest level
that we could only
dream about. It's a good point
there. scroungers.
scroungers has massive
scroungers. Well, there's
another
another soon to be nonprofit has
not yet registered as a 501. C
three, the ter asymmetric
projects. If you've heard of
this is quite a quite the
operation. The terror asymmetric
asymmetric project is in fact,
run by Malcom Nance. Former
former MSNBC contributor Malcolm
Nance always has a big mouth
he's, he's always complaining
about is the the former CIA FBI
LMNOP guy.
Yeah, he's some like that. So my
boy you're talking
Yeah. So he, he apparently went
to Ukraine to join the fight.
And he appeared on MSNBC what
the news reports a he left his
lucrative as lucrative job as a
cable as a stringer as a string
or as a stringer for him. He's
not even invited in the studio
anymore. As a stringer for
MSNBC. And Joy Reid had him on
many of you have seen this. It's
funny because it's Malcom Nance
the guy usually sitting at home
in his office talking crap about
anything Republican. Now in full
combat gear with an AK 47. The
oddly seems to not have a
charging handle on it. That's
we're not quite sure what's
going on with his weapon. It's
also strung around his neck with
a strap not not really military
issue, but it looks the business
he's got his he's got his flak
jacket on has big words. Nance.
So he's there and he's in the
woods in the dark. And he's and
he's talking to joy read and
he's, he's doing something about
this job. And joining
me now from a secure location in
western Ukraine is your location
taking a director care
isometrics project he's fighting
with the International legion of
Territorial Defense of Ukraine
and Malcolm, we just watched
that video of you and Ally ruzi
was attempting to interview you
for us to get more information
on what you're doing. We saw
those cruise missiles fly
overhead. So explain to us why
you are there and what you're
doing
well as you You know, I spent
quite a bit of time here in the
pre war period. And when the
invasion happened, I had friends
who were in Donetsk, who were in
the Ukrainian army, who were
writing to us and telling us,
we're not going to survive
tonight, we've been hit 500
times. You know, these are
graduates that Defense Language
Institute, these are my friends.
And, you know, as the more I saw
of the war going on, the more I
thought, I'm done talking. All
right, it's time to take action
here. So, about a month ago, I
joined the international Legion
here in Ukraine, and I am here
to help this country fight, you
know, what, essentially is a war
of its extermination. This is an
existential war. And Russia has
bought it to these people, and
they are mass murdering
civilians. And now
before you continue, I just
wanted to mention because it's
kind of odd that he says, You
know, I was here pre war. What
are you doing in Ukraine? Were
you on vacation? No, I had
friends there. Were his friends.
I'm gonna tell you, his friends
were at the Defense League
Institute. He did that just
glossed over that is the United
States Department of Defense
educational and research
institution, okay, spooks,
spokes, his his BIOS by a great
continue. Malcom Nance born in
60 ones is 60. So he's 61
Actually go will be 61 in
September. So he's old for us,
you know, foot soldier, but he's
an American author and media
pundit on topics related to
terrorism, intelligence,
insurgency and foreign affairs.
He's a former United States
Navy, Senior Chief Petty
Officer.
Does that mean he manages the
pencils guy? He manages pencils.
He's, well, he's a Navy guy. Now
he's a puppet. We could be a
pencil pusher or paper pusher
specializing in naval
cryptology. Which is that a
specialty Okay. Nancy is an
intelligence and Foreign Service
analyst who are foreign policy
analysts who frequently
discusses the history
personalities and organization
of jihadi radicalization and al
Qaeda. And the Islamic State of
Iraq and Levant, South West
Asian and this guy, you know, we
always like to spot the spook.
This guy seems like a phony,
like a phony spook. Yeah, a
phony, a LARPer. He's
a LARP spook.
He could be a LARPer. He's a
wrote a bunch of books that
maybe he wrote maybe didn't, as
we've talked about before, in
2014, he found this when he
founded became the Executive
Director of the terror assess
symmetric project on strategy
tactics and radical ideology,
which
is basically a one page website
with the Pay Pal donate link.
Yeah. And so then he's now in
his shows in his background,
military career, United States
Navy. And then he supposedly
joined he's in a member. He's a
member of the terrorist defense
forces in Ukraine. Yes, this is
this is a screwball story.
Well, I think that the guy is
sad. I don't even he sadly, he
may actually believe he's making
some kind of difference. But he
got I think it was kind of
pushed out of MSNBC. They didn't
they were not having him on. And
so now he decides he's got the
terror, terror isometrics
project, which is, I guess, to
fundraise for himself. And he's
got a little office over there.
And Ukraine. I mean, I saw the
whole piece, he's got a little
office, he's got gear, and he's
got his he's looking impressive
doing stuff on the laptop. He's
doing something about the
situation, John, weapons
packages are not enough, you can
send three point a half billion
dollars worth of weapons to
Ukraine. Without Malcom Nance,
nothing will go right
fight. You know, what
essentially, is a war of its own
extermination. This is an
existential war. And Russia has
bought it to these people. And
they are mass murdering
civilians. And there are people
here like me, who are here to do
something about it. And we
have some video here. This is
some some video that was shot by
Ali's team, of yourself with
some supplies and the things
that you are working on while
you're there. We know they're
about 20,000 people from 52
countries that are currently in
Ukraine, and have been there
from the start of the war. What
are international troops like
yourself? What are you all
tasked to do?
Well, we are here for one
purpose and one purpose only,
and that is to protect the
innocent people of Ukraine, from
this from this Russian
aggression. And you know, it's
not a conventional war choice.
Even though you have two armed
forces going head to head here.
What you have is you have
another group, I won't even
refer to the Russians as an
army, just using mass heavy
weapons that are used in combat
against civilians.
Now, this is where I think he
misspoke. He says you have two
sides, Ukraine and Russia. Then
you have another group, who are
just murdering civilians? is he
referring to the AES off
battalion? Oh, funny, I think he
misspeaks Here. Let's check it.
What are you all tasked to do?
Well, we are here for one
purpose and one purpose only.
And that is to protect the
innocent people of Ukraine, from
this from this Russian
aggression. And you know, it's
not a conventional war choice.
Even though you have two armed
forces going head to head here,
what you have is you have
another group, I won't even
refer to the Russians as an
army, just using mass heavy
weapons that are used in combat
against civilians. They are
destroying infrastructure, and
then you find that they go to
the cities, and they massacre
men, women and children. They
just
went on from there. But the best
part was, and they she talked
about it just before that they
showed him being interviewed,
which looks like it would be a
Ukrainian city. It's actually at
the city's bustling, you know,
everyone in the in the
background, and he's being
interviewed. And then suddenly
they realize that there's a,
there's something something
going on, are we in an air raid?
And as he as was stated, Oh, I
saw the ICBM, and the joy read
him and says, we saw the ICBM,
well, I watched the video. They
show the sky, but you'd never
see the ICBM, there's no little
circle. Look, here it is. I did
it frame by frame. You can't see
it. not denying that it was
there. But this piece of him all
of a sudden, they're out on the
street. And then it's like, oh,
wait a minute. Are we in an air
raid? And then he's jumping up
and he becomes Malcolm Malcolm
Nance, like war of Warcraft, you
know, what is it? What is the
other one call of duty? And he's
barking out commands and it's
like he's he's calling out stuff
that makes us know that he
really is on top of what's
happened in in warfare, cranes.
Unique territory. That going
down? No, but I've never seen a
fast mover. Where to go. Yeah, I
heard
one. Boom. Are we in an air
raid? Yes. Yeah. We are. We had
there Right. So there's another
there'll be three.
Standby. We're getting hit.
That's a 500 pound bomb. Let's
get the bonding that's coming
from the east southeast. So
those are caliber anti ship
missiles. They're striking to
the west. Striking to the west
that's to at least one more.
That wasn't a plane as cruise
missile that was a cruise
missile. Yeah. Wait for one
more. They're fired and 30
secondary they farm and 32nd
intervals. Smoke that we got
standby. Three cruise missile
caliber standby.
gotta see this. Smoke cruise
missile caliber standby. It's
just pointing at an empty sky
with the city just going on
before him everything's fine.
It's really really odd that this
is taken seriously actually, I
want to I want to enhance his
little thing a little bit make
him sound a little more
efficient smoke
standby. Three cruise missile
caliber.
This is dropkick with a red dash
alpha message and two farts
Malcolm Nance on the scene
ladies and gentlemen. And he's
not the only person who wants to
go to Ukraine to fight. I mean,
this is this is now rampant
within our establishment should
you know sorry. You have have mo
explained to you what a shuck
and jive artist is and use it in
terms of this guy. Now, I also
think you might be seeing some
people joining up because there
there is a blast opportunity to
do a throwback to the Spanish
Civil War, the Spanish
revolution to one that the way
they fought were the good guys
fought the Nazis in Spain. Yeah.
And maybe it's
without your without doubt, the
International Ukrainian forces
or whatever they call it,
Israel. There's there's
Americans going there's a lot of
people who are just jacked up
about they love going over and
the jacked up about fighting
like, oh, cool, man, I'm gonna
go fight and go kill somebody.
And I will point out, you
remember when Joe Biden was
talking to the 82nd airborne,
saying, you know, by this time
tomorrow, you'll see the people
in the streets of Ukraine. And
everyone laughed at him because
they were going to Poland. I
have very reliable information.
The 82nd airborne is in Ukraine.
Or at least members of them are
in Ukraine. And they are
advising
I'm sure they are I'm sure
there's somebody there just
gotta be mad. I didn't know what
the point of this keeping this
thing going is it's a good price
hike price. I was just gonna say
that same thing we got to keep
this makes it will take this
right to the midterm elections
and blame everything on Putin
because they they got Trump out
of office using this trick. So
let's see how stupid the
American public is. Do you think
they'll maybe they'll buy into
the Putin price hike? Good Jen.
Saki says it. Biden says that
they use this term Putin price
hike.
Let's go to Maxine Waters,
another potential shuck and jive
artists
should President Biden and heed
the request of President
Solinsky of Ukraine and go to
your go to Ukraine?
Well, let me just tell you that
this President has been awfully
responsible of for making sure
that we get weapons and
equipment. And just recently, I
think another 800 billion in
equipment going to Ukraine.
We're all working as hard as we
possibly can. I believe with all
of the intelligence that we
have, if Putin knew that Biden
was coming, he would try to have
him killed. So we have to be
very careful about that. We want
our president to be safe, as we
do the work that we can do to
help out in every way that we
can, which
is about Biden coming over
Ukraine.
So if not President Biden, which
American official do you think
should go to Ukraine to see with
their own eyes?
What's happening there?
I do believe that should
volunteer if they want to go and
make that trip. But I don't
think that we should absolutely
try and assign our force any of
their elected officials to go.
But I think that many of us will
perhaps volunteer to go. And
those are the ones that should
go wait. There. Those of us who
would volunteer to go would you
go? Are you volunteering, of
course. Oh, absolutely.
Oh, yeah.
I want to see Malcolm Nance and
Maxine Waters in in camo
horses and going, Oh, she'll go
say, well, she's foolish.
She'll go over there. Sugar over
there. I believe that put
five bucks on it. Yeah,
I'll take your five. Okay, I'm
gonna be careful by the time we
find out next week, that may
only be worth four.
That's, yeah, the Putin
inflation.
So this is yes. I mean, I think
we've kind of seen it now. We
have no idea what the truth is.
Everybody's lying. But all that
we're getting is Putin price
hike. And of course, they're now
up to 5 million refugees. They
say I don't know. We just don't
know there is no reporting that
is that we can really trust
other than the migrant situation
in Europe is not going to
improve with with five 5 million
streaming in and it's not just
going to stay in Poland Of
course. It's did you see in
Sweden, Sweden's imploding again
their their riots and they're
doing the whole blown up burning
cars on the streets Sweden.
But who is the people that are
doing it? Who's these? are the
these are
the previous migrants? The
muscle is the muscle in your
back
and what they're getting ignored
or something and so they're
trying to get attention again,
I'm not sure but it's it's not
turn. It's It's messy. In
Sweden, which is just so weird.
It is land of Abba, land of rock
set.
I got this last Ukraine clip
which is the Lenski first he's
bragging even though he needs
more stuff and then now it
sounds like they're gonna go on
the offensive.
Because Alinsky says the way our
armed forces are holding up
shows the Ukrainian army deserve
to be ranked higher than the
Russian army. And we hear this
kind of optimism everywhere in
Ukraine, a spokesman for the
military governor here in
Odessa, who asked to be
identified only by his first
name Eugene, told NPR that
Ukraine might actually go on the
offensive in the coming days
without a package or help
that much with our package with
the big package our package,
they go on the offensive take
our package.
So Ukraine, we really just don't
know. Other than Putin's price
hike, and we'll see what's next
to cover up the the horrible
state of inflation and financial
systems that just don't seem to
be functioning very well.
Now I have no more Ukraine,
stuff like that. They can go
different directions, but I
wanted to take a break and due
to NPR clips that are just to
me.
They Fun, fun to listen to.
Why No, no. One of them is okay.
One of them is I never thought
I'd ever see it either. Now, I
think that I probably have seen
it and I missed it. Which is a
native ad on NPR on NPR, which
added and giveaway to as a
native ad besides its content
for Taco bail is very creative,
very creatively done. But it's
curious. And I have it timed out
I have the clips Exactly. Two
minutes not the 145 not one than
two that's always the that's
always the giveaway is the
timing. That so a native ad
let's just explain a native ad
would be it's it's couched as
content as a story. There's
probably no disclaimer at the
beginning or end that this is
paid for. advertisement, which
of course we can't really prove
but it's also not in the charter
of NPR to take this type of
advertising. They're supposed to
have underwriting
or advertising or whatever you
want to call it. Fans of
Taco Bell's Mexican pizza
received good news this week.
The food chain is bringing back
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