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Adam Curry: Well looks like a
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Sunday February 19 2023. This is
your award winning combination
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media assassination episode
1531. This is no agenda, using
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my blowhole to broadcast live
from the heart of the country
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here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm
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Adam curry here
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John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where we're
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hoping you're going to shoot
down some are hobbyist balloons,
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bastards of Jhansi Dvorak
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Unknown: and buzzkill
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Adam Curry: it wasn't just
hobbyists. It was a ham radio
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hobbyist balloon.
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John C Dvorak: Well, that was
one of them. Yeah, yes.
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Adam Curry: Just one. You know
how I have always joked about
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plastic surgeons who say just a
few days of bruising, ma'am. You
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know that. Turns out oral
surgeons are very similar, but
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they're all surgeons. Just a
sore for a day or two jaunt my
1:03
mouth is is so taut from the
swelling is like I'm talking to
1:06
a
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John C Dvorak: blowhole. Paul
used to blowhole Joker. Well,
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you
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Adam Curry: didn't say anything.
So I wanted to make sure you you
1:13
heard it.
1:15
John C Dvorak: i You sound huge
sound 10 by 10 Yeah, five
1:19
Adam Curry: by five. I know. I
know. But it hurts by six.
1:23
Square when it hurts when I
laugh so let's make it oh yeah,
1:26
let's make it a just kind of a
regular old show. Do you mind
1:30
just not too funny.
1:32
John C Dvorak: Very little shows
are pretty humorous. I do have
1:35
my book here out a book called
Book jokes, puns and riddles.
1:40
No, I David Alan Clark. Hola.
Let's not do that. No, this is a
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book that I'm I'm gonna tell you
some interesting. 9668. So this
1:51
is hippie humor. And I'm going
to tell you I could read
1:54
anything from this book and I
guarantee you won't laugh.
1:57
Adam Curry: Oh, that would make
sense. Hippie humor is generally
2:00
just not funny.
2:04
John C Dvorak: Question. Okay,
when is spanking like a hat?
2:08
Adam Curry: I don't know when
his spanking like a hat. John.
2:11
John C Dvorak: When it is felt?
2:14
Adam Curry: Oh, man is this did
Marty write this book? Oh, I
2:20
hurt myself.
2:21
John C Dvorak: Your day? I
didn't do it. All right. All
2:25
right. Well, maybe you're wise
and hammer one liners should be
2:28
dead put a halt. That's what it
2:29
Adam Curry: is. The Munich
Security Conference is on. I
2:35
have a clip diver clip too. But
since I called it, I'll do the
2:40
overview and then we'll see what
you have. I got a couple of
2:43
things here. This is the the
annual conference everyone gets
2:46
together in Deutschland. Last
year, of course, the Lensky was
2:50
there in his civilian suit, to
recommend that everyone get
2:56
ready for the war. And now we're
one year further. And here's a
3:00
couple of years an overview of
what the leaders had to say
3:02
including hair Zielinski
himself.
3:04
Unknown: We Solinsky set the
tone comparing Ukraine's fight
3:07
against Russia to David and
Goliath.
3:10
He will definitely fall already.
This year. We can make it all of
3:15
us together just as David did.
We can make sure that there is
3:20
no alternative to our victory.
3:23
Ukraine's President urged
Western leaders to act quickly
3:27
we need
3:28
to hurry up we need the speed
speed of our agreements speed of
3:32
our delivery to strengthen our
slink speed of decisions to
3:38
limit Russian potential was the
Linsky pushed for
3:42
speed. German Chancellor Olaf
Schultz argued for caution. By
3:47
last, we will continue to
maintain the balance between
3:50
providing the best possible
support to Ukraine and avoiding
3:54
an unwanted escalation.
3:57
But shorts also challenged
Western countries to deliver on
4:01
promised weapons.
4:03
This means that everyone who can
supply these battle tanks should
4:06
actually do so now. Emmanuel
Macron from Ukraine remains
4:12
firm. No, absolutely
4:15
not, we must absolutely
intensify our support for the
4:18
resistance of the Ukrainian
people and army for leading the
4:22
counter offensive, which alone
will enable credible
4:27
negotiations under the
conditions chosen by Ukraine.
4:31
Authorities, its people.
4:34
Adam Curry: So that's the
overview sounds pretty boring.
4:36
Although Zielinski is almost.
4:38
John C Dvorak: He's almost my
overviews a little better than
4:40
that.
4:41
Adam Curry: Okay. I'm glad I was
just going to finish by
4:44
John C Dvorak: this is an actual
overview. That doesn't really
4:48
bring in any details like were
you just that's more detail this
4:51
is Munich Security Conference
clip.
4:53
Unknown: The Munich Security
Conference kicks off today in
4:55
Bavaria, Germany. The meeting is
an annual gathering of experts
4:59
Senior Policy missions and heads
of state for talks on global
5:02
security policy. German
Chancellor Olaf Scholz and
5:05
French President Emmanuel
McCrone have arrived at the
5:08
venue to meet with other
European leaders. Their speeches
5:12
will follow opening remarks by
Ukrainian president Volodymyr
5:15
Zelensky. Also among the guests,
our UK Prime Minister Rishi
5:18
Sunak, European Commission had
Ursula von der Leyen and NATO
5:22
Secretary General Jens
Stoltenberg representing the US
5:26
is Vice President Kamala Harris.
5:28
Adam Curry: Rah rah Oh, I see
why you were so jacked about
5:33
playing your clip, because now
5:36
John C Dvorak: why do they What
is she doing there? She
5:39
Adam Curry: was there last year.
If you recall, she is the
5:41
represent she is there to say,
with the passage of time. And
5:48
Solinsky is almost quoting song
lyrics, we can make it we can
5:51
make it looks like we made it
I'm telling you this is almost
5:55
over. But not until we shake
down the people of the United
5:59
States, the UK, the EU, and back
home, we had the representatives
6:04
telling us how they're going to
take it from us
6:06
Unknown: and then deliver much
needed humanitarian assistance
6:09
as well as food, water,
medicine, shelter, and other aid
6:13
to Ukrainians, displaced by
Russians war, and provide aid
6:17
for those seeking refuge and
other countries from Ukraine is
6:21
also going to help schools and
hospitals open. It's going to
6:24
allow pensions and social
support to be paid to the
6:27
Ukrainian people. So they have
something something in their
6:29
pocket, also going to provide
critical resources to address
6:33
food shortages around the globe.
6:35
Adam Curry: No, they need their
pensions. We don't need our
6:37
pensions giving them cash. Yes,
screw you, America with your
6:42
pensions. We're giving them
cash. We're giving them food
6:45
when you're hungry. You're
hungry, you should go to
6:47
Ukraine.
6:49
John C Dvorak: So that the
homeless situation around here
6:51
that I know they have the best
of homeless in DC.
6:54
Adam Curry: Oh, a lot of
homeless in DC. It's been bad
6:57
for a long time once you crossed
the border of Foggy Bottom.
7:02
Yeah, so here's Mitch McConnell,
leader of the Republicans are
7:05
listening to the Ukrainian
saying they don't have enough
7:07
and by the way on Fox News with
Dana Perino are listening to the
7:11
Unknown: Ukrainian saying they
don't have enough ammo. And even
7:13
our defense department is saying
we might have to figure out a
7:16
way to get more funding so that
we have an ammo for ourselves
7:20
and our allies like grant
7:22
Adam Curry: funding. This is
such a scam. We are being stolen
7:26
from right before our very eyes.
Oh, we don't have enough
7:29
bullets. Not enough ammo. We
need more funding. Wait, but we
7:33
have, we haven't figured out the
debt limit yet. Oh, it's gonna
7:36
be so fun.
7:37
Unknown: What is Biden's
responsibility and trying to
7:40
make sure that people in America
whose support for Ukraine is
7:44
softening? We'll want to
continue to try to help them.
7:49
Well, I'm going to try to help
explain to the American people
7:52
that just feeding the Russians
and Ukraine is the single most
7:57
important event going on in the
world right now.
8:00
Adam Curry: I don't care what
you think is the single most
8:02
important thing in the entire
world. Even if you're hungry,
8:06
even if you're safe. If you have
no jingle jangle in your pocket,
8:10
it's all about Ukraine. That's
the most important thing.
8:13
Unknown: It will save us an
enormous amount of money down
8:15
the road if Ukrainians can
succeed. They're not asking for
8:19
any of our personnel.
8:21
Adam Curry: It's an investment
people this it'll save us money
8:23
down the road. If the Ukrainians
can succeed. It's an it's really
8:27
you should see it as an
investment in your children in
8:30
the bank interest in your
children's future. It
8:33
Unknown: will save us an
enormous amount of money down
8:35
the road if Ukrainians can
succeed. They're not asking for
8:39
any of our personnel are asking
us for financial help. Europeans
8:44
are stepping up.
8:45
Adam Curry: By the way,
financial help. Dana Perino just
8:49
opened by saying, Man, we need
money for the military
8:52
industrial complex, we were out
of ammo, they're out of ammo.
8:56
And then he says, well, we need
money for them. No, no, this
9:00
we're we're being robbed. We're
being robbed by the military
9:02
industrial complex, and they're
just gonna keep going until
9:05
someone stops it we're not
9:06
Unknown: asking for any of our
personnel are asking us for
9:09
financial help
9:10
Adam Curry: us keep saying yeah,
they are. What are they asking
9:12
for?
9:13
John C Dvorak: You're asking for
our personnel. They'd love to
9:16
have our personnel over there.
They have our
9:18
Adam Curry: personnel are some
of this money is going to the
9:20
mercenaries that's our
personnel,
9:22
John C Dvorak: not only just
mercenaries, according to that
9:24
clip that I played last show US
Army. Yeah, that guy wasn't a
9:29
mercenary he was talking about
9:33
Adam Curry: No, he was an
advisor. Oh, yes. Advisor with a
9:37
gun and advisor cannot be
neutral. Here's our ghost. Let
9:41
me show him advise you how to do
this. You point over there. Now
9:44
I'm going to pull the trigger.
This is just advice. Okay.
9:46
Unknown: Culture makes choices
in times like the
9:49
sorry, down the road if
Ukrainians can succeed. They're
9:53
not asking for any of our
personnel or asking us for
9:56
financial help. The Europeans
are stepping up to They've
10:00
gotten an awful lot that seems
not to be recognized, for
10:04
example, handling like enormous
numbers of refugees.
10:10
Adam Curry: Man, I keep doing
it. They were not recognizing
10:12
how good the Europeans are. The
Europeans are really actually
10:15
better than us. Because we're
just not recognizing how much
10:18
they've done an
10:19
Unknown: awful lot that seems
not to be recognized, for
10:23
example, handling enormous
numbers of refugees. In terms of
10:27
the cost of a Dinah, it's about
point oh, 2% of our gross
10:33
domestic product. Oh, we'll
10:36
Adam Curry: give that to
Americans. Because it's just a
10:39
little bit. So was $130 billion
is just Oh, point. Oh, 2% of our
10:48
why don't we give another 0.0
point 2% of the GDP to
10:52
Americans. This, I cannot
believe that anyone sitting at
10:57
home going? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
We really got to help out
11:01
Ukraine. I just does. It seems
like this must be falling on
11:05
deaf ears.
11:07
Unknown: We are also monitoring
very carefully that money that's
11:10
being spent. There should be a
bipartisan why
11:16
John C Dvorak: I said bullcrap
you don't even they can't even
11:19
audit the Pentagon, let alone
figure out where that money's
11:22
going to descend it if you
remember when this war first
11:24
started, and they started
shipping money over there. They
11:27
lost track of it immediately was
11:29
Adam Curry: 400 million 400
million. I don't know, even
11:32
someone pointed out to me the
clip you played on the last show
11:35
about running out of ammunition.
They actually said the
11:39
ammunition is lost. They didn't
say it's it's like missing. It's
11:45
missing in this. It is so
obvious that
11:49
Unknown: we are also monitoring
very carefully that money was
11:51
being spent. It should be a
bipartisan support for this my
11:56
biggest criticism of the
President as he seems not to
11:58
have done enough soon enough,
more, more rapidly, we might
12:03
have been able to help the
Ukrainians have even more
12:07
success than they've already
had. But it seems like these
12:10
weapons systems tend to get
there. A little too late. on
12:15
every occasion. I'm sorry.
12:18
Adam Curry: Dana Perino
representative news model for
12:21
the military industrial complex.
Exactly,
12:24
Unknown: because they're a
little too late. on every
12:27
occasion, exactly. Public
opinion, slotting but I want to
12:32
reassure the American people
this is this is enormously
12:35
important. We need to stay
together on a bipartisan basis
12:39
in our country, and defend these
people who are bravely fighting
12:43
for freedom and for democracy
and you're crying.
12:46
Adam Curry: Alright, so this is
this is the new narrative. By
12:48
the way. I didn't hear Dana
Perino say anything in this
12:52
report, even when she when she
asked the question about support
12:56
sliding. So support is sliding.
He's aware of it. They're aware,
13:00
but he just brought that in
without any prompting. The same
13:04
is happening in Europe. And
Queen Ursula gave an interview.
13:08
She had a very stressful
interview. It was kind of a
13:11
stand up thing at the Munich
Security Conference. I think
13:13
someone stopped her on the
buzzer. strahd. That's a
13:17
international speak for a
balcony. And then she got a
13:21
whole bunch of mics jammed in
her face and she couldn't get
13:23
away from it. And if you look
closer at her, she is her. Her
13:30
lizard reptile mouth is starting
to show. She has all the little
13:35
creases lines all around her
mouth know when she could seem
13:38
easily saw with some injectables
just a few days of bruising. But
13:43
now it just looks really makes
her look like a reptile. So a
13:46
couple of questions here. And
the first one is of course the
13:50
people of the EU who have
millions of refugees who have
13:54
come into the EU countries.
Poland would be number one I
13:59
would say but they're in the
Netherlands they're in in France
14:02
or they're everywhere. And
support is sliding people after
14:06
a year of having this go on.
People are starting to get weary
14:10
and luckily she has a solution.
14:13
Unknown: Europe has taken in
millions of Ukrainian refugees
14:16
and towns have been very
supportive. They want to help
14:20
these people but they are saying
they are straining under the on
14:25
first flooding of refugees. What
can you do to help them because
14:28
they are saying they are
reaching limit?
14:31
Christabel? Yes, I want to
acknowledge and thank from the
14:34
bottom of my heart. All these
people, Europeans who have
14:38
opened their hearts and their
homes to the Ukrainian refugees
14:41
is amazing. And I understand
that this is straining over
14:45
time. This is why we introduced
the Temporary Protection
14:48
Directive, which means
basically, direct access for the
14:52
Ukrainians to the labor market,
to the schooling system to the
14:55
health system and to Social
Security.
14:57
Adam Curry: Oh, okay, so it's
gonna get some It's better
15:00
Europe. Now, the EU has decided
apparently through this special
15:05
mechanism that the refugees can
get access to your children's
15:08
schools, to your, your social
services and and your social
15:13
money. Okay, so don't worry
about it. Is it going to be
15:16
there for a while, but we're
going to take care of it. We're
15:18
paying for them with your money.
15:19
Unknown: What's the Temporary
Protection Directive, which
15:21
means basically, direct access
for the Ukrainians to the labor
15:25
market, to the schooling system,
to the health system and to
15:28
Social Security? Also, to help
15:31
Adam Curry: why wait a minute,
Social Security? Wait a minute,
15:36
Biden said we need to give them
money for Social Security? Is
15:40
this our money? Bonus? Let me
just go back and listen to the
15:44
end of Biden there. Where is he?
I mean, we heard that right. Let
15:52
me just check here. Last bit of
Biden,
15:56
Unknown: at people so they have
something something in their
15:58
pocket. It's also going to
provide critical resources to
16:01
address food shortages around
pensions and social support to
16:05
be paid to the Ukrainian people.
So they have something
16:08
Adam Curry: pensions Okay, now,
not the same thing before I
16:10
thought we were paying for it.
16:12
Unknown: Direct access for the
Ukrainians, to the labor market,
16:15
to the schooling system, to the
health system and to Social
16:18
Security, also to help take the
burden off the shoulder of the
16:23
ordinary people who did a great
job. So when you see is coming,
16:28
because the Lindsay said at this
conference that
16:33
John C Dvorak: she said for the
ordinary people who did a great
16:36
job, is that what she said? Yes,
16:38
Adam Curry: they did a great job
of flee. Great job. Okay, I hear
16:48
you This is gobbledygook. When
you see is coming? Oh, here we
16:52
go. Here comes the piece
question. Now we've been paying
16:55
attention to the piece when this
piece coming at this conference
16:57
Unknown: that he was thinking
that the next Munich Conference,
16:59
that will be a post war
conference,
17:02
do you also believe that this
war will be over within a year,
17:06
I will not make any predictions,
because this is not to put in
17:11
words for me at the moment being
important is, as Ukraine is
17:15
fighting for our basic values
for the respect for the
17:19
international law, for the UN
Charter. And for the fact that
17:23
today, you cannot send tanks
across a border and unleashed
17:28
that's an aggression. So Ukraine
is really fighting for
17:32
Adam Curry: what do you think
that means? We can't send the
17:35
tanks across the board. I'm not
quite on anything, because he's
17:37
talking about here.
17:39
John C Dvorak: Tariffs play it
again,
17:40
Unknown: basic values for the
respect a little bit. Alright,
17:44
for me at the moment being
important is, as Ukraine is
17:48
fighting for our basic values
for the respect for the
17:52
international law for the UN
Charter.
17:55
Adam Curry: Okay, there it is.
This is important respect for
17:58
international law, respect for
the UN Charter here we got the
18:01
moment
18:01
Unknown: being important is, as
Ukraine is fighting for our
18:06
basic values for the respect for
the international law, for the
18:10
UN Charter. And for the fact
that today, you cannot send
18:14
tanks across a border and
unleash such an aggression. So
18:19
Adam Curry: yes, that's what
she's referring to Putin sending
18:22
track tanks across gas. Yeah,
frame
18:24
Unknown: is really fighting for
existential values that we have.
18:28
And therefore full support from
our side. Putting imperialistic
18:33
plan must fail
18:34
a little bit more on the
timeline. Are you going to be
18:36
proposing this formally Is that
what's the next steps in this
18:40
proposal? And one of the
problems has been that even
18:43
though there has been money, for
example, through NATO, countries
18:47
have not signed contracts. And
that has slowed the whole
18:50
process down. How can you ensure
that once you have the money on
18:52
the table, this the contracts
are signed and production can
18:55
start?
18:56
Adam Curry: Okay, that what she
just throws out there, this
18:58
ladies in the know, somehow she
works for Deutsche Bella
19:01
production can start, I think
this is about more weapons. But
19:06
she's saying there's no
contracts to said, you know,
19:10
what's the timeline for, for
kicking Putin his ass, because
19:15
the contracts have not been
signed.
19:19
Unknown: It is important because
of the lack of contracts to give
19:22
a certain amount of certainty to
the defense industry. And these
19:27
are the advanced,
19:29
Adam Curry: they want long term
contracts. The defense industry
19:31
doesn't just want like just a
little thing, not enough, we
19:34
want long term certainty and
contracts
19:37
Unknown: of contracts to give a
certain amount of certainty to
19:42
the defense industry. And these
are the advanced purchase
19:45
agreements that we have good
experiences with ya. And for
19:51
that it needs a European
approach because it cannot rest
19:54
on the shoulders of one country
for example. So this is the
19:57
approach. The second is we have
DNS tuition is in place. So we
20:01
should not create something new,
that we should use the European
20:04
peace facility, which has an
coordination mechanism with
20:08
Ukraine, or
20:09
Adam Curry: the European peace
facility, which funds the
20:12
military industrial complex is
great,
20:14
Unknown: we have the
institutions in place. So we
20:17
should not create something new,
that we should use the European
20:20
peace facility, which has an
coordination mechanism with
20:23
Ukraine already in place, we can
use the so called AKA, which is
20:28
a procurement institution that
is knows all the mechanism. So
20:33
for me, the practical be fast.
And these are the ingredients
20:37
that we're going to put
together.
20:39
Adam Curry: Alright, be
practical, be fast, let's get
20:41
the money to the military
industrial complex as quickly as
20:43
possible. Now back to the peace
process. It looks like they're
20:47
the pieces are coming together.
And what I see happening is not
20:55
a not an actual victory. You
know, it's all up to Ukraine.
21:00
Not not a victory on the field.
But there will be an agreement,
21:04
there will be a negotiations,
and that will end the war. And
21:09
we're getting pretty close to
mechanism seems to be the IPCC
21:13
the international criminal or
the ICC, International Criminal
21:17
Court, special tribunal. But one
question you mentioned, Vice
21:21
President Harris's speech is
this a change in tone from the
21:24
White House?
21:24
Unknown: This is significant in
that the US now does formally
21:27
consider Russia to have
committed crimes against
21:30
humanity. But how to actually
hold Russia accountable is a
21:33
huge question that countries are
grappling with right now.
21:35
Ukraine is calling for a special
international tribunal to try
21:39
Vladimir Putin. But that seems a
long way off for now.
21:42
Adam Curry: Maybe not, maybe not
we go over to CNN on on poor and
21:47
company Christianna on him poor
globalist extraordinaire, they
21:51
have on Bill Browder, who,
himself is a very interesting
21:56
figure who got basically kicked
out of Russia. And if there's
22:03
money to be had, I'm sure he
would have an interest in
22:05
hanging around to get some of
it, he can probably prove that
22:08
he deserved some of it. So he is
telling the on poor CNN and
22:12
company exactly what the
mechanism is how it's going to
22:16
work. And why.
22:17
Unknown: Explain to me the
mechanics of confidence skating,
22:20
that central bank was,
22:21
Adam Curry: this is Russia. $600
million, add to for starters.
22:25
Well,
22:26
Unknown: so at the moment, those
reserve billion I'm sorry, herds
22:28
are protected by something
called sovereign immunity.
22:31
Sovereign Immunity means that
anything that belongs to a
22:34
country, a state can't be taken
away, you can't like just move
22:38
into the embassy because you
would like that property,
22:41
because it belongs to that
country. And normally, that
22:44
would be a reasonable thing. And
that's how international law has
22:47
worked for the last many, many
years. Now, Putin has redefined
22:53
international crime, he has
redrawn the borders of Europe,
22:57
he's invaded a foreign country
he's killed. He's been a mass
23:00
murderer killed the unimaginable
numbers of people. And so we're
23:05
sitting there in this situation
where he's reading, redefine
23:08
international crime. And we're,
we're sitting there saying you
23:13
and your money is still
protected. We need to redefine
23:16
international law, to elevate it
to the level of his the way he's
23:23
become an international
criminal. And what does that
23:25
mean specifically? That means
that that laws have to be passed
23:29
in a number of major developed
countries, which says that
23:33
sovereign immunity always
applies in every single
23:36
circumstance, except in the
circumstance, when a country has
23:40
invaded a neighboring country
and committed an act of
23:43
aggression, which is how this
war is being defined under legal
23:46
terms. So that's the one narrow
circumstance where sovereign
23:50
immunity no longer applies. If
we do that, if the United States
23:55
and the European Union and Great
Britain and Canada and Japan
23:59
rewrote their laws to say that
sovereign immunity applies, in
24:03
all circumstances other than
those, then we could then
24:06
confiscate their money. We
wouldn't be doing any legally
24:09
we'd be doing it based on a law
that's been rewritten to adapt
24:13
itself to the current situation.
24:15
Adam Curry: Easy, which,
24:16
John C Dvorak: of course, yes,
she brings up the point that one
24:19
of the staples of Western
civilization is the avoidance of
24:24
ex post facto laws, right? No,
no, no, I
24:28
Adam Curry: don't think that was
in there. For some reason, it
24:30
just didn't come up. Now, this
is what's so beautiful. Is there
24:34
yet, what you just said is okay,
we're going to convict some
24:37
somebody based upon a law we
wrote after the utrust Well, I
24:40
guess they could just wait,
change the law and then say all
24:43
crimes against humanity because
as you know, invading another
24:47
country is a crime against
humanity. It's not like, like
24:49
any of our president would fall
under that, but Putin would, and
24:53
it looks like we just might have
a venue for the negotiation, as
24:57
we have the trial going on in
The Hague. In the Netherlands,
25:01
under the joint investigation
team, the same team that
25:04
convicted Putin of being behind
the Malaysian downing from a
25:11
from a rocket shot off from in
Ukraine, but of course that was
25:14
Putin. It looks like there may
be a venue for peace
25:18
negotiations, which I think
would leave Putin with whatever
25:20
he has with Crimea, the DOM
boss, he keeps all that he just,
25:24
you know, just stays on that. On
that border. We cover that up
25:29
with a whole you know, with guys
with with black and white tunics
25:33
on in the court. And we'll have
a big show trial that probably
25:36
have his head on a stick in the,
you know, in the docket, so that
25:40
we can looks like we actually
have him there. And this is
25:43
where it looks like the peace
negotiation may take place.
25:46
Unknown: But the war in Ukraine
end sooner than expected. I know
25:50
we have been asking this
question for quite some time
25:53
now. But some unexpected
developments have forced us to
25:57
ask this question again.
developments like these
26:00
Alexander Lukashenko inviting
the American President Joe Biden
26:04
to men's waterfall, to end the
Ukraine war for the unverse
26:09
Lukashenko is the president of
Belarus and one of Vladimir
26:13
Putin's closest allies. In fact,
they are best friends of sorts.
26:17
So when a man like this extends
an olive branch to the west,
26:21
when he makes offers like these
to the US president, one has to
26:25
take them rather seriously
26:26
Adam Curry: that Putin won't
even go he'll send somebody else
26:29
they're going to end this after
we've signed the long term
26:32
contracts, we need two years
worth of ammo and training, etc,
26:36
etc, etc. And I think that
signal is now gone out to the
26:39
military industrial complex one
more time boys would do a two
26:43
year long term contract and then
we're just going to cut it down
26:45
and stop it slowly move it over
to China, which is where the the
26:50
new which is where the new focus
belongs. And the only problem is
26:56
we have a couple of a whole
journalists that's that's the
26:59
that's the the problem we still
got to fix. Because our buddy
27:03
Matt Lee AP Diplo writer is
back. He's back, given people a
27:07
hard time at the State
Department, in this case, Matt
27:11
Lee grilles Rear Admiral Kirby,
on who actually is the aggressor
27:17
here. Did Russia get closer to
NATO? Or did NATO get closer to
27:22
Russia
27:22
Unknown: say the reason that the
Russian army is on NATO? The
27:25
Russian army is at NATO's
doorstep as Because NATO has
27:27
expanded rather than the
Russians expanding that in other
27:32
words, NATO has moved closer to
Russia rather than Russia moving
27:36
closer to NATO. Is that not an
accurate way to look at this?
27:40
That's the way President Putin
probably looks at it. It's
27:42
certainly not the way that we
look at it.
27:44
You don't you don't think that
NATO has expanded eastward
27:47
toward Russia.
27:48
NATO has expanded and they
expect good thing for
27:51
the reason that the Russian army
isn't NATO's doorstep is not the
27:54
fault of the Russian are not the
it's not the Russian army that's
27:58
done it. It's NATO has moved
closer to move here. It
28:01
wasn't NATO who was ordering,
you know, upwards of 15
28:04
battalion tactical groups to
within 10 kilometers of the
28:07
border with Ukraine. And I'm
pretty sure it wasn't NATO, who
28:09
put little green men inside
Ukraine to destabilize
28:12
eastern city sure that Ukraine
is not
28:14
Adam Curry: a member of NATO.
That was Victoria Nuland, who
28:16
put little green men inside
them. Hey, Don,
28:19
Unknown: so unless that's
changed,
28:21
it's the movement by Russia,
28:24
NATO. NATO is moved east. The
reason that the Russian army is
28:28
closer or on NATO's doorstep is
because NATO, NATO is
28:32
not an anti Russia Alliance.
NATO is a security
28:37
fit 50 years it was an anti
Russia Soviet Alliance. So what
28:41
do you not understand it? It's
totally if you don't understand
28:44
how can you not even see how the
Russians will perceive it as as
28:48
a threat and the fact that it
keeps getting closer to their
28:50
border while their troops? I
mean, the places where their
28:54
troops are you say their troops
are and made may have been in
28:57
Ukraine and Georgia are not made
up?
28:59
I don't have I'm not going to
pretend to know what goes in
29:01
President Putin's mind or
Russian military commanders. I
29:04
mean, I barely got a history
degree at the University of
29:06
South Florida where I can tell
you only stopped
29:10
stopped. How about that? How
29:11
about that?
29:12
John C Dvorak: Why would
somebody this is like the guy
29:14
says, Look, I'm a D student. So
I don't understand this sort of
29:19
thing. Well, then what are you
even doing in this position? We
29:21
don't want D is this that you're
an equity hire?
29:25
Adam Curry: It seems like it at
this point. He's really
29:28
struggling. He's really
struggling with this. Well, he's
29:30
John C Dvorak: now he's claiming
to be a dummy from South
29:32
Florida. Admiral Rear Admiral
29:36
Adam Curry: retired.
29:37
John C Dvorak: By the way, I got
a note from someone saying when
29:40
we did the discussion about
Kirby being a woman
29:44
Adam Curry: when you when you
brought this up, yes.
29:48
John C Dvorak: Despite I think
it was a woman who wrote and
29:49
said I until you started talking
about I always thought he wasn't
29:54
or she was a woman. No, yes. i
Wow. I I believe you know, the
30:00
void. This happened to me, by
the way, with the Laura Ingram,
30:07
when she was on the radio,
30:09
Adam Curry: Oh, you thought Frau
Ingraham was her Ingraham. When,
30:13
John C Dvorak: when she's on the
radio, I don't know how they
30:15
miked her or what they did or
how the equal eacute or I don't
30:18
know what it was, but that was
just an accident. I'm driving
30:20
around and actually turned her
show on. I thought it was some
30:26
dude.
30:28
Unknown: years it was an anti
Russia Soviet Alliance. So what
30:32
do you do not understand how can
you not even see how the
30:37
Russians would perceive it as as
a threat? Now?
30:39
Adam Curry: That's the question,
his answer is even more baffling
30:42
when you think about what the
simple question is,
30:44
Unknown: and the fact that it
keeps getting closer to their
30:46
border, while their troops. I
mean, the places where their
30:50
troops are you say their troops
are and they may have been in
30:53
Ukraine and Georgia are not made
up.
30:55
I don't have I'm not going to
pretend to know what goes in
30:57
President Putin's mind are
Russian military commanders. I
31:00
mean, I barely got a history
degree at the University of
31:02
South Florida.
31:03
Man, that
31:04
Adam Curry: is so stupid. What I
can tell you is that
31:07
Unknown: is that NATO is a
defensive alliance, it remains a
31:10
defensive alliance.
31:11
But it has moved east, correct.
I mean, that's just expanded.
31:16
Exactly. It's there's no
31:17
reason for anybody to think the
expansion is a hostile or
31:20
threatening. And we've been
saying that throughout the last
31:22
15
31:23
years now. You're, you're moving
closer to Russia, you're blaming
31:27
the Russians for being close to
NATO. That's exactly what
31:31
we're blaming the Russians for
violating the territorial
31:33
integrity of Ukraine and
destabilizing the
31:35
security system. Which is not a
NATO. I see other countries feel
31:41
threatened.
31:41
Adam Curry: Yeah, goodbye. Way
to go, Matt. only guy left. I
31:48
think
31:49
John C Dvorak: I barely got a
history history degree at the
31:52
University of Florida.
University of Florida, it was
31:58
South versus South Florida.
Whatever the hell that is.
32:02
Adam Curry: one more clip here.
Luckily, we know we need to keep
32:04
the German people happy. Now we
got to keep them involved
32:09
because, well, you know, they
actually have maybe still have
32:12
some capacity to make some
weapons. I would say they except
32:16
for Airbus. They pretty much are
that what's left of the defense
32:19
industry in the EU. So let's
bring as Alinsky and Sean Penn
32:24
into a film festival Shall we
cannot
32:26
Unknown: be neutral. Culture
makes choices in times like
32:30
fees. The words of Solinsky at
the opening gala of this year's
32:34
Berlinale Film Festival.
32:38
Today, Russia wants to build the
same wall Ukraine, a wall
32:45
between us, between the US and
Europe to separate Ukraine from
32:50
its own choice that is on
future.
32:55
Now in its 73rd year, to build
an Al's route, a deeply
32:58
political in nature, its
foundations laid in the first
33:02
phase of the Cold War. In
addition to Ukraine, pro
33:06
democracy protests in Iran will
also feature at the festival.
33:11
Guests from the world of show
business and politics shared the
33:14
red carpets with Iranian
demonstrators. This year 19
33:19
films will be competing for the
golden and silverbear awards.
33:24
Outside the main competition,
films do to be screened cover
33:27
topics from race and history in
the US to gender transition and
33:31
sexual identity.
33:32
Adam Curry: Oh man, I can't
believe we missed that Film
33:34
Festival. Sounds like some
great, great submissions this
33:38
year. Gender identity,
33:41
John C Dvorak: LGBTQ, there's
nothing more entertaining than
33:43
that.
33:45
Adam Curry: One other thing
happened at the low business.
33:50
Somehow they still have this,
this feeble idea that we can
33:53
reach the people and convince
them through celebrities and
33:56
show business. I think that left
somewhere mid pandemic
34:00
worldwide. People are not just
not interested anymore. But what
34:06
else happened at the Munich
Security Conference is the the
34:10
canceled meeting between Abe
Lincoln and Louis I think it is
34:15
the Secretary of State for China
kind of took place but there
34:20
were some jabs back and forth.
34:21
Unknown: US Secretary of State
Antony Blinken met with his
34:24
Chinese counterpart Randy during
the global security conference.
34:29
This is the first face to face
meeting between the two leaders
34:32
since the US military shut down
a suspected Chinese surveillance
34:36
balloon earlier this month.
taking to Twitter Blinken said
34:40
that he warned Vandy against
violations of its airspace after
34:44
a Chinese spy balloon flew over
North America. Lincoln further
34:48
asserted on how it was
unacceptable and irresponsible
34:52
for China to send a spy balloon
into the American airspace.
34:56
Earlier on Saturday, Vandy took
a swipe at Washington a accusing
35:00
him of violating international
norms with what Beijing calls
35:04
unbelievable and almost
hysterical behavior. Beijing has
35:08
also denied using spy balloons
and says that the balloon was
35:12
the weather research.
35:13
Adam Curry: So you want you have
to go to W IO n to get this
35:17
information. I don't think we'd
hear anywhere in the US media
35:21
that the Chinese Foreign
Secretary said, Man, this is
35:24
like you're hysterical, is just
hysterical behavior. Stop it you
35:29
woman. That's basically what he
said. And added to that it was a
35:32
weather balloon, which we also
have an All I heard was oh, the
35:35
Chinese said, sorry. No, it was
it. They say they say clearly
35:39
it's a weather balloon. So what
is it?
35:45
John C Dvorak: Versus or dig in
pieces of it up? Or trying to
35:48
from the bottom of the 40 or 40
feet down? It's not that far.
35:54
We'll find out I think that
they've been just been going on
35:57
for a while now. So I think it's
been I think the information is
35:59
being suppressed.
36:00
Adam Curry: Yeah, we'll find
out, huh? Sure. I
36:03
John C Dvorak: said this
information is being suppressed.
36:05
Adam Curry: I got a note from
same producer who told me about
36:09
the Why the f 22. did what it
did. And by the way, the F 22 is
36:18
the most sophisticated aircraft
I mean, this this, this whole F
36:21
22 was almost the way I picked
it up as a sales job. Hey, look
36:25
what our plane can do, we can
shoot balloons. The PRC balloon
36:31
engagement was at the ragged
edge of the F 20. Twos
36:34
operational envelope that means
the altitude the higher altitude
36:38
is harder for the airframe to
maneuver. Therefore, that
36:42
engagement required one Mach 1.3
The other engagements in order
36:47
to fly because there's almost no
almost no air up there, you need
36:52
speed, and otherwise, you're
going to fall out of the sky. So
36:55
that's why the Mach 1.3 The
other engagements weren't much
36:59
slower speeds since they were at
lower altitudes, but still too
37:01
dangerous to use guns for the
aforementioned reason, because
37:05
you could actually wind up
flying through the debris at
37:09
that speed. A pilot, our sources
told me that the F 22 Not being
37:14
able to use guns above 50,000
feet. I'd say look for some
37:19
other references, but pilots
were too busy creaming
37:21
themselves over robbed
demonstration of air power. See,
37:24
this is what it was it was a
sales job. But it appears that
37:29
you just can't use the guns at
50,000 feet because you're going
37:32
too fast and you have to fly
fast to stay afloat. Or
37:35
airborne.
37:36
John C Dvorak: Well, well, this
these random assertions are one
37:40
thing I can't it's
37:41
Adam Curry: not a random
assertion is from someone who.
37:44
Okay. Yes, you contacted who
37:47
John C Dvorak: is the Defense
Department
37:49
Adam Curry: where you get the
truth. Did you talk to Kirby say
37:52
John C Dvorak: I was gonna get
the truth. I also contacted
37:55
Lockheed and the woman to watch
to be on vacation over the
38:01
holiday. Yeah, the Defense
Department said that information
38:03
is classified?
38:04
Adam Curry: No, of course it's F
22. We can we can It's
38:07
classified.
38:09
John C Dvorak: That plane is 25
years old. How long is it going
38:13
to be? How long is everything
going to remain class?
38:15
Adam Curry: The F 22. I thought
the F 22 was like the brand new
38:18
hardship machine. Yeah. That's
25 years it
38:22
John C Dvorak: is. Doesn't mean
it's new.
38:27
Adam Curry: Are you sure this is
a fifth Gen?
38:30
John C Dvorak: Well, the fifth
Gen. Yeah, they keep upgrading.
38:32
Yeah, I'm not saying it's the
same version they made 25 years
38:35
ago.
38:36
Adam Curry: Okay. All right. So
my answer versus yours. I have
38:41
an answer you get It's
classified. No, that makes
38:44
sense. Right, I'd have
38:48
John C Dvorak: to assume that
there's I don't know why they
38:51
just does this make I told that
fact the second guy got a hold
38:54
of me and he said he wanted to
try to get me some answers, but
38:59
he couldn't do it.
39:02
Adam Curry: Right on cue we have
China also being dicks to our
39:06
neighbors to the north. This was
a big story big story in in
39:12
Canada, if people send me links
about it the whole time.
39:18
Unknown: It was exactly the
result Beijing wanted
39:21
you or sending us back to work,
at least
39:23
according to a Globe and Mail
report. It said top secret CSIS
39:28
documents detailing Beijing's
sophisticated strategy to
39:32
influence the 2021 election.
According to the report, China
39:36
targeted specific conservative
candidates in hopes of a liberal
39:40
minority government.
39:41
Justin Trudeau knew about this
interference.
39:44
The opposition accuses the prime
minister of covering it up
39:48
Adam Curry: he is perfectly
happy to let a foreign
39:51
authoritarian government
interfere in our elections as
39:54
long as they're helping him.
39:56
Unknown: Trudeau said he's never
hidden China's attempts to
39:59
interfere You're we have,
40:02
like I said, known for a long
time that China and others
40:09
engage in foreign interference
in Canada, including during our
40:12
elections.
40:14
Adam Curry: People are upset
about this. Rightfully so.
40:23
John C Dvorak: And right, are
they why don't they just vote
40:25
this guy out then? No, because
40:27
Adam Curry: there was they can't
because the election fraud was
40:31
was manipulated by China. They
said it's impossible. When when
40:37
Russia does it to us Trump wins.
You know, when when China does
40:39
it to Canadians. Trudeau wins.
It's, it's it always works.
40:48
Apparently. Anyway, right on cue
China as if they are playing
40:53
along with the script does this
40:55
Unknown: tonight tensions rising
after the US National Security
40:58
Council says North Korea
launched an intercontinental
41:02
ballistic missile that landed in
Japanese waters. This new video
41:07
released earlier today showing
what Japanese military officials
41:10
say appears to be a missile
falling from the sky. This is an
41:14
outrageous act which escalates
application against
41:18
international such a piece of
symmetry unacceptable. The
41:23
United States also strongly
condemning North Korea, saying
41:27
this launch is a flagrant
violation of multiple UN
41:30
Security Council Resolution.
Japanese officials say the
41:33
missile was launched from the
suburbs of Pyongyang flying for
41:37
nearly 66 minutes and roughly
560 miles before falling into
41:42
the Japanese exclusive economic
zone west of the island of
41:45
Hokkaido. So far no reports of
ships or aircraft damaged.
41:50
What's extraordinary about this
video is that you can see the
41:53
actual flames when it zooms in
on the missile body falling.
41:57
That's just that this came
awfully close to landing on
42:01
Japanese soil.
42:03
Officials say today's launch is
the first ICBM test since back
42:08
in November, when North Korea
fired the powerful class on 17
42:12
ICBM.
42:14
Adam Curry: So I think we're
probably going to kick this off
42:16
earlier than 2027. I mean,
that's also a little bit of
42:22
wishful thinking, because I'd
like to retire before 2027 from
42:26
the show.
42:27
John C Dvorak: What do you
think's gonna happen in 2027?
42:29
Would
42:29
Adam Curry: you say oh, no,
that's what everyone's that's
42:31
what the CIA guy the bill. The
bill, William Bill from the
42:37
chiefs of CIA said China will
attack in 20 years
42:40
John C Dvorak: because of some
something China's wrote or
42:43
something we deciphered. 2027
Submit deal. Yeah. Which is
42:49
doesn't really match with
anything else. But no cropping.
42:51
Adam Curry: Because Because this
this Ukraine thing has to end
42:54
and it seems like they're
positioning the money. We know
42:57
where the money is going to. The
money is already there. We just
42:59
have to make it legal. To take
it. And then we can start with
43:07
then BlackRock and JP Morgan can
start rebuilding. And as the
43:12
Lansky will do a big piece
thing. We'll do it in Minsk
43:15
which sounds official. Putin
himself won't show up because he
43:20
will be convicted once. Once
he's no longer they'll say, wow,
43:22
you know, once he isn't elected
president again. Then he will be
43:27
convicted and we'll throw him in
the brink so he'd be he'll be
43:30
charged and convicted in
absentia, and we'll just keep
43:33
doing news reports about how the
next election that's going to be
43:36
the one that's gonna go pick him
up and he'll pay. I think they
43:40
can sell this. I think they can
sell it. I think Zelinsky is
43:43
he's a great actor. Give him
some lines. No problem. I
43:46
John C Dvorak: got a line from
Zelinsky this one I went to
43:49
Lenski clip. Oh.
43:51
Adam Curry: Hold on. Here we go.
43:54
Unknown: There is no alternative
to speed. Because it is the
43:58
speed that the life depends on
44:03
Adam Curry: the speed
44:05
John C Dvorak: alternatives to
spit.
44:10
Adam Curry: There was
44:11
John C Dvorak: was this guy
gonna get a voice coach.
44:14
Adam Curry: I think this is
actually better than it was. I
44:17
think he's, I think he's doing
better. I had one to somewhere
44:20
that someone sent me that I
normally would not have played
44:24
except you played that listen to
this.
44:26
Unknown: Come in the name of
peace.
44:31
Adam Curry: Did you see that
one? Come in the name of Chris.
44:34
All right. There you go. He's
kind of entertaining. It's
44:43
entertaining me. All right. I'm
sweating. Now what you got you
44:48
got to hold it. You got like
this whole row of things.
44:52
John C Dvorak: My stuff's all
domestic.
44:53
Adam Curry: Now. Well, that's
good. I'm tired of this foreign
44:56
stuff.
45:00
John C Dvorak: I do have a
couple just to be clear if I do
45:02
have an atom and you do I do,
do. I do have a clip that's
45:08
called Adam and NTD hate where I
can kind of understand why you
45:12
hate and TD so much. Okay, I'll
play
45:15
Unknown: another train
derailment more hazardous
45:17
materials. Same company, a
Norfolk Southern train carrying
45:21
hazardous materials derailed
outside of Detroit, Michigan
45:24
yesterday morning. Six train
cars crashed off the tracks in
45:28
Van Buren township just before
9am local time.
45:32
Adam Curry: Now, why would I
hate that?
45:34
John C Dvorak: Oh, so you also
pronounce it Nora Falk?
45:40
Adam Curry: This is Dee Dee. I
tried to Norfolk that didn't, it
45:46
really doesn't bother me.
Listen, we just listened to
45:48
Zelinsky say, come with this. So
I think norfork is acceptable.
45:53
In this case.
45:54
John C Dvorak: For people out
there who want to know is
45:56
pronounced Norfolk Norfolk.
46:00
Adam Curry: Yeah, I probably
have the most stories about
46:02
Norfolk.
46:04
John C Dvorak: Let's go to Mike.
Yeah. All right. What you got?
46:07
Okay, so there was this train
wreck? They can't get off Trump.
46:12
No, it's very hard. And so the
thing is, is that listening to
46:17
NPR, I got two series of clips
are all from NPR. And NPR has
46:21
become, it's become first once
they last, when I fold it became
46:27
partisan became shit this and
really went down. And we've
46:30
never seen one. And we never
thought we would we would miss
46:33
Gwen Eiffel that much wrestling.
We didn't know we did. But you
46:36
could tell us that when when
that one important person leaves
46:39
and that everything changes. You
know that one person? That was
46:43
the person that was keeping it
together when Eiffel? Yes. And
46:46
then Judy came along, and she's
just like some sort of a lackey
46:50
for the Democrats. But when she
left now, it's worse. Now you're
46:54
talking about PBS or NPR now and
what EBS PBS just said, Okay, I
46:57
thought you said I say NPR made
a mistake. I get it mixed up
47:00
with the fact that Gwen aifa was
never really with NPR. She's
47:04
always PPS. And she's an old pro
from the network's Yes, she was.
47:09
It was Judy. But Judy was
47:11
Adam Curry: the problem we had
with Gwen IFO. The reason why we
47:14
turned on her, stupidly, was
because and I learned a new
47:18
word. This is years and years
and years ago, because she wrote
47:21
a hagiography of Barack Obama.
Yeah. And that was it was so
47:26
wrong for her stature. But we
should have, we should have let
47:30
that slide because now we missed
well, then
47:32
John C Dvorak: she became the
host of a debate with Obama up
47:35
there. Yeah,
47:37
Adam Curry: that was that was,
yeah, she was captured and it
47:39
sucked.
47:40
John C Dvorak: But she was still
kept going. And so now we've
47:43
got, I think the group is pretty
much turned progressive, and
47:48
gay.
47:52
Adam Curry: And the difference
is,
47:54
John C Dvorak: well, it's just
makes it worse. They date they,
47:57
they're more blatant. Their
coverage is really so slanted. I
48:01
want to play these clips. This
is more or less about the
48:04
Georgia coming back from their
grand jury. And oh, and Trump
48:09
was you know, mentioned but you
know, Trump didn't really do
48:11
anything, but he, he could have,
48:14
Adam Curry: what am I what do
you owe the Georgia vote thing?
48:18
What is this about?
48:19
John C Dvorak: Well, there was
a, there isn't it was a number
48:22
of factors. But this all gets
back down to Trump's claims
48:29
about election fraud. Okay. Now,
they use a loaded language,
48:37
these clips are all very short,
because I have to stop them
48:39
after the guy says three words.
But let's go to the word Trump's
48:45
claims and change it to Trump's
false claims. And this has
48:49
bugged me to know and for years
now, what is a false claim?
48:57
asking you a false claim. I'm
going to say this. I'm going to
49:03
make the claim that you dyed
your hair black, somebody told
49:08
me that and so I'm claiming your
hair your hair is dyed black,
49:12
right?
49:12
Adam Curry: So you are you are
claiming something that doesn't
49:15
mean that you have proof. And I
understand what you're saying.
49:19
So a false claim would be if you
said I'm dyeing my I dye my hair
49:24
black, but you actually thought
it was blonde. That'd be a false
49:28
claim. But that will be inside
your head. There is really no
49:30
such thing as a false claim.
It's a claim.
49:34
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what
I think it's a claim unless
49:37
you're totally insincere. Right?
In other words, if Trump's
49:41
claiming and by the way, this
information that these clips
49:43
mostly come out of the Dominion
lawsuit against Fox News,
49:48
Adam Curry: ah, yes, this is the
big one. Okay, got it. So
49:51
Dominion
49:51
John C Dvorak: sues Fox News.
And as we all know, if we know
49:54
anything, that there's a thing
called discovery and that's why
49:59
people try it. Avoid suits.
Yeah. So Dominion started
50:03
digging and digging and digging,
and they got a bunch of
50:05
information that indicated that
some people at Fox were
50:10
insincere during this era when
that during the election 2020
50:16
election and they were saying
one thing to the viewer is a
50:20
public Yes. And they were lying.
50:24
Adam Curry: This is the Fox News
takedown that we talked about on
50:27
the last show Tucker Carlson
texting with Frau Ingraham and
50:32
talking about Sidney Powell
being a nutjob.
50:37
John C Dvorak: Well, here's the
report of this. From NPR. I'm
50:44
sorry, I did it. You're gonna
have to excuse me for doing
50:47
that. But from PBS. I got NPR on
here too. It's all PBS.
50:52
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. You were
confusing me? Yes. It's all PBS
50:54
got it. That's why
50:56
John C Dvorak: it's all PBS. I
don't have any NPR clips on
50:58
today's show. So this is the way
it starts. And here they're
51:01
gonna get into this the suit and
they think they've got Fox over
51:05
a barrel. And here we go.
51:07
Unknown: A new point filing
shows top executives at Fox News
51:10
and leading network
personalities privately
51:12
dismissed former President
Donald Trump's false claims of
51:16
voter fraud in the days that
followed the 2020 presidential
51:19
election.
51:20
Adam Curry: Yeah, here. I see. I
see what you're what you're
51:23
pointing at false claims just
just claims you could just say
51:26
claims.
51:27
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's
journalistically, I think, and
51:30
wrongly and everything is wrong.
51:32
Adam Curry: It's like they
should have said claim without
51:34
evidence.
51:36
John C Dvorak: That would, that
would be even better. But false
51:40
claims is loaded language
designed to make you look make
51:44
Trump look like a jerk. But this
clip, they start off with just
51:48
the premise. This is the whole
premise. Roseanne wants to play
51:51
this short clip play one more
time.
51:53
Adam Curry: Oh, number one one
more time. Yeah, okay.
51:56
Unknown: A new court filing
shows top executives at Fox News
51:59
and leading network
personalities privately
52:01
dismissed former President
Donald Trump's false claims of
52:05
voter fraud in the days that
followed the 2020 presidential
52:08
election,
52:09
Adam Curry: which to me, is I
heard all of this all week long
52:13
on MSNBC, CNN, et cetera, was
really them trying to take down
52:19
Fox News, the clear winners in
any ratings race by any, any
52:23
observation? Yeah, any measure
is,
52:26
John C Dvorak: they do mention
that in passing, so. Okay, now
52:31
we're gonna that would you just
heard the premise. Yep.
52:33
Throughout this report, which go
I only have parts of it. The
52:37
whole thing, they never bring
out any evidence, and then they
52:39
finally bring out two examples.
And both both these examples are
52:42
bad. But let's go to now this is
clip number two of the series,
52:46
Unknown: even as they pushed
those same lies on television.
52:50
Nice.
52:52
John C Dvorak: So, okay, now all
of a sudden, the false claim is,
52:56
as long as the lie
53:01
Adam Curry: I like it. I like
it.
53:03
John C Dvorak: So this is where
they're headed. This is the kind
53:05
of loaded report we're now
getting from news our nice, it's
53:09
slanted as hell and is loaded
with it's got loaded language is
53:13
very poorly done. Let's go to
Okay, let's go to number three.
53:16
And this one, this is where this
this is actually not them
53:19
talking. These are clips that
supposedly exemplify this, but
53:24
they don't. They don't exemplify
the hypocrisy that they're
53:27
claiming. they exemplify the
kind of the narrative that
53:30
they're pushing. And here's a
clip from Fox that they played
53:33
tonight. Every American
53:35
Unknown: should be angry, you
should be outraged. You should
53:38
be worried you should be
concerned. What has happened in
53:41
the election,
53:42
the Dominion software system has
been tagged as one allegedly
53:46
capable of flipping votes.
53:49
How for example, did senile
hermit Joe Biden get 15 million
53:54
more votes than his former boss,
Rockstar, crowd surfer Barack
53:58
Obama.
54:00
Adam Curry: Rockstar crowd
surfer.
54:04
John C Dvorak: Now, that last
clip, which was Tucker Carlson,
54:09
was from Thursday of last week,
54:11
Adam Curry: yes, but we might as
well use it now.
54:15
John C Dvorak: So it's got
nothing to do with this case,
54:17
which is about the election two
years ago. So why are they
54:22
playing these clips now that
they continue to kind of push
54:26
the same narrative which does
just I don't know. That doesn't
54:29
prove that Tucker was saying
well, I Trump's full of shit. He
54:34
never does that Daniel crew it
throughout this entire report.
54:37
Well, they just asserting it.
54:39
Adam Curry: Can I can I make an
assertion of my own, which could
54:41
be a false claim? Because you
mentioned discovery. And what I
54:46
picked up not a clip but I just
picked up some reports. That
54:50
Dominion discovery documents
show employees of Dominion
54:54
admitting their products are
quote, riddled with critical
54:59
bugs that could due to incorrect
results, maybe the Navy that has
55:03
to be shut down a little bit.
55:06
John C Dvorak: By going in the
other direction you think it's
55:08
maybe it's just a thought I
shouldn't bring that point up in
55:12
this report that's going to clip
for
55:13
Unknown: the court filings
reveal that behind the scenes,
55:16
many of the network's top stars
and executives. derided Trump's
55:20
election lies is quote, mind
blowingly nuts and quote totally
55:24
off the rails, even as they
criticized colleagues for
55:27
pointing that out on TV. The
filing is part of an ongoing
55:31
defamation lawsuit filed against
the network by Dominion voting
55:34
systems.
55:37
John C Dvorak: Okay, what name
names? I heard that quote who
55:42
you quoting people named Anna,
who said these things?
55:46
Adam Curry: Surely they say that
somewhere else don't say or the
55:48
lower third Chiron that said has
nope, no,
55:50
John C Dvorak: nope, nope. And
nope. Let's go to I'm just
55:56
waiting for the names. Where's
the names you give me a day
55:59
finally bring some stuff out.
But it's got nothing to do with
56:01
what their assertion is. Let's
go to clip six.
56:03
Unknown: Joining us now is David
Falk.
56:05
Adam Curry: And I'm sorry, this
is clip five is not the right
56:06
one. Yes, five. Joining us
56:08
Unknown: now is David
Folkenflik. Who covers for NPR.
56:11
David, thanks for joining us.
First explain how we learned
56:15
about these text messages how
they're part of this nearly $2
56:19
billion defamation lawsuit filed
against Fox right. It's a
56:24
blockbuster case that's been
filed by Dominion voting
56:27
services systems, an election
tech company that is at the core
56:32
of a lot of these fraudulent
claims of fraud
56:37
Adam Curry: fraudulently claims
56:38
John C Dvorak: of fraud.
56:41
Adam Curry: So that actually
means that it is fraud because
56:43
it's a fraudulent claim of fraud
than it was. Then it was not
56:47
fraud, but it was fraud.
56:49
John C Dvorak: I don't know. I
tell you this is folk and folk
56:53
whatever this guy's name is. I
looked him up I think that's
56:56
German guy has a hard on from
Rupert Murdoch, like nobody he
57:00
shouldn't even be allowed to be
on TV focus. And I was thinking
57:03
about this because if you look
at his all his old works, he's
57:06
just after Murdoch. He hates
Murdoch
57:08
Adam Curry: hates him. And who
is this guy who what is he is?
57:12
John C Dvorak: He's a he's just
a kind of a hack journalist has
57:15
been doing? Not a lot.
57:19
Adam Curry: I'm reading I'm
reading the discovery. And I'll
57:21
just I'll Intersperse your
report with a few brief things
57:24
Mark Beck strand. This is from
the discovery document, Mark
57:27
Beck strand, who probably has
sex with Folkenflik but Dominion
57:31
sales manager confirmed that
other parties have gotten a hold
57:35
of Dominions equipment illicitly
in the past, and identified
57:38
specific instances in Georgia
and North Carolina and testified
57:41
that a Dominion machine was
hacked in Michigan. This is in
57:44
the discovery so it's not such a
wonder that this this is
57:48
happening
57:51
John C Dvorak: to these guys so
this is a key while you're there
57:53
you have here is it this is a
smokescreen for the real story,
57:56
which probably is cover up Yeah.
But meanwhile so this is Falken
58:00
guy I was thinking about this
because he just had you can look
58:03
at his old material and because
he's you know, it's on the net.
58:07
And it's just hard on for for
Murdoch, like there's no
58:10
tomorrow, I have to assume
because I've seen this happen
58:13
here and there. And I have
examples of it from real life
58:19
situations in the Bay Area with
guys who tried to get a job
58:22
someplace got refused or kicked
out or said no and they get out
58:27
there on the rampage against the
company. And so they're just so
58:31
I think that's what's going on
with this guy. So he's useless
58:34
as a as a correspondent in this
in this arena. It was proudly
58:38
fraudulent claims of fraud with
this beat. Well, let's question
58:43
Adam Curry: Do you think it's
possible fraudulent frame cloud
58:45
claims of fraud? Do you think
it's possible that really all
58:48
they want is just one thing they
just want Tucker Carlson off the
58:52
air?
58:54
John C Dvorak: I think that's a
big part. It's
58:55
Adam Curry: gotta be Sean
Hannity is is basically he's
58:58
harmless. Frau Ingraham is the
same. They go after both of them
59:01
John C Dvorak: I know what their
next human products entertained
59:04
next two clips are they go after
Tucker and this is the example
59:08
they cite. This is a read of
some memo they cite of Tucker.
59:13
Showing that he's a phony. Oh, I
don't see it. I want you to
59:17
listen to this and tell me what
it what makes you think he's a
59:19
phony. This clip seven clip six.
Oh, okay. What did we get to?
59:24
Adam Curry: I'm off Folkenflik
one more time. So shortly. Okay,
59:27
John C Dvorak: let's go back
with Folkenflik fraudulent
59:30
claims
59:30
Unknown: of fraud that were
ventilated on Fox News in the
59:33
immediate aftermath of the
November 2020 elections.
59:38
John C Dvorak: Okay, kept adding
because their use of the word
59:41
ventilated.
59:43
Adam Curry: Ooh, a kind of like
that.
59:46
John C Dvorak: fraudulent claims
of fraud that were ventilated. I
59:50
think he meant vented. But I
liked the whole sequence
59:53
fraudulent
59:53
Unknown: claims of fraud that
were ventilated on Fox News in
59:57
the immediate aftermath.
59:58
Adam Curry: This is what you
should try Your wife, you know,
1:00:01
you're just ventilating
fraudulent claims of fraud. See
1:00:05
how that works? Yeah, your
marriage works out.
1:00:08
John C Dvorak: It did all these
clips are just to point out the
1:00:10
bad journalism that you have
that you're getting from the
1:00:12
nation's one of the nation's
treasures, and use our
1:00:16
treasures. Yeah, it's really
out. It's out of control. But
1:00:18
let's go into here's their
example about Tucker,
1:00:21
Unknown: a brutal, brutal
portrait that we have seen about
1:00:24
the cynicism, the sense of
crisis, the fear and the anger
1:00:29
that was generated inside of
Fox, in reaction to their
1:00:34
audiences recoiling from the
network's own call of Arizona
1:00:38
for Joe Biden on election night,
the first of any major network
1:00:41
to do
1:00:41
so. What becomes clear from
reading through this filing is
1:00:45
that Fox knowingly peddled
election lies for ratings.
1:00:48
There's a text in particular
from Tucker Carlson, and he is
1:00:52
suggesting here that a Fox News
White House correspondent should
1:00:55
be fired. For fact checking a
Trump claim about the election.
1:01:00
He says, Please get her fired.
I'm actually shocked. It needs
1:01:03
to be stopped immediately. Like
tonight, it's measurably hurting
1:01:07
the company, the stock price is
down. Not a joke.
1:01:11
Adam Curry: Not a joke. He's
using Biden stuff now.
1:01:15
John C Dvorak: So it shows there
was some woman on the staff that
1:01:18
was doing the kip tech, typical
Washington Post style fact
1:01:23
checking, oh, he said six and it
was actually seven fact check.
1:01:29
So she was this she was doing
this and some Tucker said she
1:01:35
did not a good look. But no,
1:01:38
Adam Curry: that's very bad.
Look what he does.
1:01:40
John C Dvorak: But what's it got
to do with the original premise
1:01:44
that taught did nothing claim
that Tucker was saying that the
1:01:49
election was fraudulent. But
behind everyone's back, he was
1:01:53
saying no, Trump's nuts, it's
not fraudulent at all. How does
1:01:57
that example prove that point?
1:01:59
Adam Curry: It doesn't at all.
The only the only one I heard is
1:02:03
probably the next clip that you
have. That's the only that's the
1:02:06
only text message that could get
this
1:02:09
John C Dvorak: next was an extra
day. I think they they actually
1:02:11
Oh, no, this another text
message. This is about a Hannity
1:02:14
now. Oh, I
1:02:15
Adam Curry: thought this was
Powell.
1:02:16
John C Dvorak: It's about
Hannity and Powell. No. Okay.
1:02:20
And this is another did another
one of their examples. And
1:02:24
again, I'm not seeing it play
this and you tell me how you're
1:02:28
interpreting this because
Trump's not even in the
1:02:30
conversation.
1:02:31
Unknown: As Sean Hannity, even
as he was giving her airtime. He
1:02:35
later said in a deposition,
quote, the whole narrative that
1:02:38
Sidney Powell was pushing, I did
not believe it for one second.
1:02:45
John C Dvorak: Oh, no. I
listened to Sidney Powell. I
1:02:49
didn't believe anything she said
either. I also didn't believe
1:02:51
Steve BitFenix. nonsense about
the military taken over anybody
1:02:58
else. I thought I thought the
election was sketchy for other
1:03:02
reasons. Like you know, people
not getting to go check on
1:03:06
things Debellis disappearing,
ballot harvesting and things
1:03:09
like that. You. So what they're
trying to imply here is that you
1:03:13
have to be all in on everything.
So if you question Sidney
1:03:16
Powell, you're a hypocrite.
1:03:19
Adam Curry: Yes, that's what
they did with Tucker Tucker had
1:03:23
a text back in exchange with
Frawley Ingraham from Ingraham
1:03:27
says Powell was full of shit.
And then Tucker says, yeah,
1:03:31
she's totally full of shit. And
what was it? And we need to not
1:03:37
be putting her on the air
because people are people, our
1:03:41
viewers, believe us. I mean, it
seems like Tucker is really he's
1:03:46
very concerned for the for the
for the organization. Now that
1:03:49
we have that talking about the
stock price being down. That's
1:03:54
kind of that is actually more
telling about Tucker than I
1:03:58
didn't expect that he would be
so concerned about the company.
1:04:02
Folkenflik is the author of
Murdoch's world, the last of the
1:04:05
old media empires. So he wrote
the book, he wrote the
1:04:11
John C Dvorak: he's just so he's
no good that this whole report
1:04:14
was bad. So the show the news,
our show keeps going on and they
1:04:17
bring on late in the show.
Brooks and Capehart Oh, no. Oh,
1:04:24
no. Two guys again, you know. So
they bring them on and they
1:04:29
breathe, visit the topic.
1:04:31
Unknown: It's time for the
analysis of Brooks and Capehart.
1:04:34
That's New York Times columnist
David Brooks and Jonathan
1:04:37
Capehart, associate editor for
The Washington Post with a
1:04:41
welcome to you both. Let's start
with this revelation late last
1:04:44
night in this court filing and
dominion voting systems lawsuit
1:04:47
against Fox News is that showing
that Fox executives and hosts
1:04:52
didn't believe the election lies
that they were peddling on
1:04:55
television. David, what do you
make of this notion that Fox
1:04:59
determined Is that telling the
truth and being straight with
1:05:02
its vote with its viewers was
not good for its bottom line?
1:05:06
Yeah, I don't know whether to
feel relieved or not that Tucker
1:05:08
didn't really believe what he's
saying. Like, he maybe has some
1:05:11
core and that's actually honest.
1:05:15
Adam Curry: What? Donors, yeah,
1:05:19
Unknown: that's a watch.
1:05:22
John C Dvorak: He goes on takes
then picks up the cudgel and
1:05:25
goes on with this thing that
Tucker was insincere about the
1:05:29
company know about the election
fraud.
1:05:33
Unknown: You know, all of us. I
mean, here in sainted PBS, we're
1:05:36
gonna go after prophets. But at
the New York Times, and most
1:05:38
other news organizations, we
have two missions, we want to
1:05:42
sell the truth, we want to live
up to the ethics of our
1:05:44
profession. We also want to
attract readers and serve our
1:05:47
viewers and make money for our
company. And you know, dealing
1:05:51
with that tension is not unique
doctors, do it, lawyers do it.
1:05:54
And but until you find the
balance, and you try to hew to
1:05:58
the code of your profession, and
do it the best you can and hope
1:06:02
that readers will will
appreciate that at Fox, that's
1:06:04
apparently not how it works.
1:06:09
John C Dvorak: Can you believe
these guys?
1:06:12
Adam Curry: I love it. I want to
have a drink with them. This is
1:06:15
great.
1:06:16
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
well, let's play the last one, I
1:06:18
have a good comment about their
great ethics over there.
1:06:23
Unknown: And that the ethos of
following the code of honesty or
1:06:26
reporting, telling the truth,
which is our only job, our only
1:06:30
job is just to tell the truth,
and not be partisan. That's our
1:06:33
job. And if you can't do the
basics of the job, then pretty
1:06:40
soon you you lose all Barrett
Warren more moral bearing. And I
1:06:43
think not everybody that agency,
a lot of people really left but
1:06:47
a lot of people who used to be
friends of mine. They lost all
1:06:51
their moral bearing and shows.
1:06:53
Adam Curry: And yeah, that
sounds like your friends. The
1:06:56
Lib Jos lib Jos Yeah, that's
exactly what you would say,
1:06:59
Unknown: but a lot of people who
used to be friends of mine, they
1:07:02
lost all plans, crying and
shows.
1:07:05
And Jonathan this, in many ways,
reaffirms what critics of Fox
1:07:09
News have believed all along
that even though it has news in
1:07:12
the title, that that is a thin
veneer at best.
1:07:17
Yeah, very thin. It's more like
carpaccio, if you want to give a
1:07:20
culinary analogy. Look, look
what this Dominion paper the
1:07:27
filing shows is that the big the
big lie is indeed a big lie. And
1:07:32
that the people who were
perpetuating it knew it was a
1:07:35
lie. And yet they still went on
air night after night after
1:07:40
night, perpetuating it to the
detriment of our country. And
1:07:46
yeah, they they lost their
balance. They lost their moral
1:07:50
core if any of them had any
1:07:53
John C Dvorak: law. If any of
them had any. There are a bunch
1:07:56
of creeps. This is the most
dishonest reporting you could
1:08:00
possibly have bigoted bias name
calling. And meanwhile, we'll be
1:08:06
going on and on about this when
they're so great. Today even
1:08:10
discussed during the K part and
Brooke segment, the fact that
1:08:13
the Cavanaugh accusers, two of
them so far have reneged on
1:08:19
their accusations about rape and
all the rest of it. I don't
1:08:23
recall that. No, of course not.
Nobody's covering it. But the
1:08:28
Kavanaugh accusers are now being
referred to the Justice
1:08:31
Department by Grassley for
perjury this is a this is a
1:08:38
repressed story. Look it up.
Google it.
1:08:42
Adam Curry: Oh, I Neva stuff.
1:08:46
John C Dvorak: So so this, I've
just found it. The worst kind of
1:08:50
reporting biased and bigoted,
dishonest, and that's what PBS
1:08:55
has become fraudulent claims
against fraud.
1:09:01
Adam Curry: Yeah. Are you
surprised, disappointed?
1:09:06
John C Dvorak: No, I just like
to get worked up. Well,
1:09:08
Adam Curry: that's successful.
Here's the actual text that I
1:09:10
was referring to. Tucker Carlson
tech, Sidney Powell was lying by
1:09:14
the way I caught her. It's
insane. Laura Ingraham. Sidney
1:09:17
is a complete nut. No one will
work with her Ditto with Rudy
1:09:21
and Tucker. It's unbelievably
offensive to me. Our viewers are
1:09:24
good people and they believe it.
What a horrible thing to say as
1:09:27
a television journalist.
Horrible, horrible to protect
1:09:32
the good people who are the
viewers. Tucker's a real
1:09:34
company, ma'am. That is that
surprises me. He must. I mean, I
1:09:40
wonder if a lot of his
compensation is based on options
1:09:43
now. And now I have to think
about that.
1:09:47
John C Dvorak: You know, that
could be that'd be a good way to
1:09:49
pay him.
1:09:51
Adam Curry: You can read the 183
pages of the of the filing.
1:09:57
There's a lot of you remember a
Coomer Eric Cooma, Director of
1:10:01
Product Strategy, but just a
couple weeks before the
1:10:04
election, he acknowledged that
quote, our shit is just riddled
1:10:08
with bugs. Our products suck,
that almost all dominions
1:10:13
technological failings were due
to our complete effed up effing
1:10:17
up the installation. He
identified critical bug leading
1:10:21
to incorrect results. I mean,
this is the it's the cover up
1:10:25
this is exactly the way and I
guess he wanted to bring some
1:10:28
clips now of how all media
except maybe a talker or some
1:10:36
some Fox reporting, but
basically they're all they all
1:10:38
suck up the Twitter files. You
know, the all you hear on on and
1:10:44
you should probably look to PBS
and NPR as well. Oh, it's just a
1:10:48
conspiracy theories is saying
the FBI was running Twitter.
1:10:52
That's crazy talk. And they just
play a couple of clips of
1:10:55
talker. You know, they don't
actually show you any of the
1:10:58
documents that are coming out.
And though this is this, the
1:11:04
problem is, it's not even the
media anymore. It's the medium.
1:11:11
I think podcasting is the only
place you place you can get it.
1:11:14
Get it do
1:11:15
John C Dvorak: that. That was
good. That was funny. Sorry.
1:11:21
We're gonna bitch and moan about
people. I do have a couple more
1:11:23
clips. I'm glad you do. Don
Lemon.
1:11:27
Adam Curry: I have thoughts
about Don Lemon. Yeah, can I
1:11:31
just give you my thoughts off
the bat. And then you got your I
1:11:34
have no clips. But I think Don
Lemon is a genius. Don Lemon has
1:11:40
taken this. He's not he knows
that he has a job to do. He
1:11:44
knows that he failed in his
primetime slot, more or less
1:11:47
primetime. He knows that he's on
his last leg. And I know that
1:11:51
you're thinking, according to
the newsletter, is that, you
1:11:55
know, this is brilliant that the
new boss of CNN is trying to get
1:11:58
him out. I think Don Lemon has
grabbed this and said, You know
1:12:02
what, I'm gonna get everybody
watching because that's the
1:12:05
result of this was everything he
says more people are going to
1:12:09
watch. This is how you run a
cable news show. You need to
1:12:14
have controversy. So people show
up. And I think he's doing the
1:12:18
right thing here.
1:12:19
John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
that would make a lot of sense
1:12:21
if he showed up after the fact.
And he just went on vacation. So
1:12:24
he's not going to be there. But
so that kind of blows that
1:12:27
theory. bonus clips.
1:12:30
Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry. You
didn't alert me to any bonus.
1:12:32
John C Dvorak: I forgot to alert
you earlier. You should always
1:12:35
have them so I never do that.
1:12:36
Adam Curry: Oh, this clip
activity. Oh, no. You all you
1:12:39
always say you get the bonus
clips.
1:12:41
John C Dvorak: I know. I always
say it and you always say yep, I
1:12:43
got him. What do you think?
1:12:46
Adam Curry: That's right. I
decided to
1:12:48
John C Dvorak: call Google
double fail. Were you the one
1:12:50
time I don't ask is the one time
you don't do it makes me wonder
1:12:55
if I ever do it.
1:12:56
Adam Curry: No, but what's
really cool is that you and I
1:12:59
know how this works. So you gave
me enough time there to rack
1:13:03
them up and I'm good to go. All
you need to do is just tell me
1:13:05
which bonus clip you want
because I haven't right here.
1:13:08
John C Dvorak: So I have two Don
Lemon clips. One of them is
1:13:12
what's what are they netlabel
because I don't have in front of
1:13:14
me
1:13:15
Adam Curry: Beadon I got beat on
beat on a beat on lemon blonde
1:13:19
air. B Meyer on CNN B mooch como
be mooch opener.
1:13:24
John C Dvorak: Okay, be Don
Lemon, whatever it was
1:13:27
Unknown: this all the talk about
age makes me uncomfortable.
1:13:30
John C Dvorak: Okay, great.
Let's stop. I do have to set it
1:13:34
up. You do. So on the morning
show they This came after Nikki
1:13:39
Haley. Yes jokingly said de I
don't understand why they don't
1:13:43
give everybody a cognitive test.
After these, you know, he took
1:13:50
his physical and he passed it
and flying colors but he never
1:13:53
took a cognitive test even
though finally the same
1:13:56
Democrats are the ones moaning
and groaning about Trump getting
1:13:58
one he did get one. But Biden
hasn't gotten Hey, you are
1:14:01
Adam Curry: like listening to
Twitter. This is great. All
1:14:03
right. Yes. Oh gee. Oh, you
should try Tim Poole. This is
1:14:07
exactly
1:14:07
John C Dvorak: this is exactly
what we finished this are now
1:14:10
you can just gonna go
1:14:10
Adam Curry: I want to. I want to
antagonize you to get more out
1:14:13
of you. This is great.
1:14:14
John C Dvorak: So so she brought
this up and so this rubbed Don
1:14:18
Lemon the wrong way because Don
lemons a Democrat, he's pushing
1:14:22
me in over Biden to get
reelected and he didn't think
1:14:26
this was much of this of this
idea, you know, and then it
1:14:30
didn't call out Nikki Haley and
hilarity ensued.
1:14:34
Unknown: This whole talk about
age makes me uncomfortable. I
1:14:37
think that I think it's the
wrong road to go down she says
1:14:40
people you know politicians or
something and not in their prime
1:14:42
Nikki Haley is in her prime
sorry, when a woman is
1:14:45
considered to be in her prime in
her 20s and 30s. And maybe 40s.
1:14:50
That's not according to me for
what it depends on it's just
1:14:53
like prime if you look it up,
it'll if you look, if you Google
1:14:56
when there's a woman in her
prime, it'll say 20s 30s and
1:14:59
40s. I don't know That's how I
got it. I agree with that. So I
1:15:03
think she has to be careful
about saying that we, you know,
1:15:06
politicians are under their
primary qualifier
1:15:08
you're trying for like child
rearing.
1:15:13
facts or Google at everybody at
home. When there's a woman in
1:15:16
her prime, it says 20s 30s and
40s. And I'm just saying Nikki
1:15:19
Haley should be careful about
saying that politicians are not
1:15:22
in their prime. And when they
need to be in their prime when
1:15:24
they serve, because she wouldn't
be in a prime according to
1:15:28
Google, or whatever it is.
1:15:30
Adam Curry: I'm just going to
counter you. I think you should
1:15:33
be a little more pragmatic about
this. It's not because of the
1:15:36
Democrats because he's gay. He
hates women. He's surrounded by
1:15:40
beautiful women. He's the kind
of gay guy that hates women.
1:15:43
John C Dvorak: I agree with
that. I could have brought that
1:15:45
up. I didn't, because a lot of
gay guys are still a big Biden
1:15:48
man. And yes, he hates women.
And there are gay a lot of gay
1:15:52
men who hate women. There's a
lot of gay women who hate men.
1:15:55
Yes. And so that's why I thought
it was genius to put him in that
1:15:59
show genius to carping women who
would just go after anything he
1:16:05
says, because I don't think they
like gay men. No,
1:16:09
Adam Curry: and this is what I
am in agreement with you I think
1:16:12
they're doing their job but
somehow it's looking at the
1:16:15
ratings it really isn't catching
on but it should the formula of
1:16:19
gay guy hates women to women who
hate gays, gay guys, I agree
1:16:24
winning formula, but somehow
they're not able to execute. So
1:16:27
that just comes down to seeing
and management Don lemons doing
1:16:30
his job as far as I'm concerned.
1:16:35
John C Dvorak: By being a dick,
yeah, he took off now he's in
1:16:38
Miami, so he's not coming back.
And
1:16:40
Adam Curry: he's in a red state.
Are you kidding me? He went to
1:16:42
Miami.
1:16:43
John C Dvorak: Well, he's in
some where,
1:16:45
Adam Curry: where you can't say
gay.
1:16:49
John C Dvorak: That's where he
went. So all I can say, Oh, see,
1:16:51
he's
1:16:51
Adam Curry: a hypnotist. So.
1:16:53
John C Dvorak: So anyway, but
then the joke of it. I'm not
1:16:56
good. This is not a great clip.
But this is a clip from the
1:16:58
marsh show. We're one of the
women on their on his. This is
1:17:02
the show that played on CNN. Mar
immediately.
1:17:05
Adam Curry: This is the Drew
90,000 viewers. Yeah. We
1:17:10
literally have 10 times that
amount listening to this blather
1:17:13
we're doing right now. That's
the best
1:17:15
John C Dvorak: Mark goes on. He
gets his gig gets money. He's
1:17:18
getting more money for this
90,000 viewers and we are for
1:17:21
our nine I hope you didn't take
stock. So he goes on CNN and
1:17:27
this is the after show that he
used to give away for free on
1:17:30
the online now it's on CNN.
After is It is Friday show he
1:17:35
does his Friday show they do an
after show. And you can watch
1:17:37
that if you want and nobody did.
So CNN looking for material
1:17:41
said, Hey, Bill, give us that
show. And we'll you know, we'll
1:17:44
just put it on the air. And
here's some money. Sorry. And
1:17:49
anyway, so he puts this on here.
And so he's got has to have
1:17:53
mixed feelings about the woman
that's on there kind of
1:17:57
convention about CNN itself.
1:17:59
Adam Curry: Nikki Haley has
called for politicians over 75
1:18:03
years old Z Oh, yes. To be
required to take a mental health
1:18:07
competency test. I wonder who
that's aimed at? Both of them,
1:18:15
right.
1:18:15
Unknown: I think it's both I
think she's trolling it allows
1:18:17
her to draw attention to Biden,
she's in Republican primary, but
1:18:21
it's a subtle hit on Trump.
They're both older politicians,
1:18:24
they have every right to run
people. The competency test is a
1:18:27
really long campaign. And people
will assess how they seem. But
1:18:31
shouldn't we do that for
everybody? Why just over 75?
1:18:34
Because, I mean, my house of
representatives, there's only
1:18:46
one age requirement, the
Constitution has a minimum age.
1:18:48
And that was because they were
so worried about people passing
1:18:51
things on to their famous sons
at the time. There's no maximum
1:18:55
age, but we have that for pilots
and other things. But again, I
1:18:58
think it's hard if you've
covered these things, you know
1:19:00
how it is, it's hard to run for
president and we're gonna see
1:19:03
how they do and then you're
gonna decide at the debates and
1:19:05
other forums whether they seem
like they got it?
1:19:07
Well, as Don Lemon told us on
CNN, women actually can't run
1:19:11
for president because he's never
past our prime once we get to
1:19:14
our 40s. But since you have to
be 35 to run it's like this
1:19:17
really tight window between 35
and 40.
1:19:24
Adam Curry: Now tell me the show
doesn't have music under it.
1:19:27
John C Dvorak: I'm hoping it
doesn't. I picked it off of
1:19:30
somebody who clipped it.
1:19:30
Adam Curry: And yes,
1:19:31
John C Dvorak: I was sorry,
1:19:32
Adam Curry: did I refuse to play
that if there's music under it?
1:19:35
Well,
1:19:35
John C Dvorak: I couldn't find
not going to go to CNN and dig
1:19:37
through the archives to find it.
So I took the clip, I say rip
1:19:41
the clip off. So
1:19:42
Adam Curry: there's there's
there's something that goes
1:19:43
along with this particular story
about Cognizant cognition of our
1:19:49
politicians. And of course, you
know, we ha It's Haley. Hi, it's
1:19:53
orange MAN bad. But here's the
real story.
1:19:56
Unknown: Also at Walter Reed
today, President Biden who was
1:19:58
there for his annual checkup, a
matter of high interest as the
1:20:02
president who is now 80 years
old is expected to run again.
1:20:05
ABC is definitely Ramos at the
White House for us and
1:20:08
Stephanie, what are we learning
from the President's Doctor
1:20:10
tonight?
1:20:11
Well, with that five page
detailed health report released
1:20:14
right before our show, overall,
President Biden getting a clean
1:20:18
bill of health today he spent
three hours at Walter Reed
1:20:21
undergoing many tests. In that
health report, the President's
1:20:24
doctor says Biden continues to
be treated for for different
1:20:27
conditions, a type of irregular
heart rhythm, higher
1:20:30
concentrations of fats or lipids
in the blood, also known as high
1:20:34
cholesterol, gastro esophageal
reflux and seasonal allergies.
1:20:38
The summary says Biden did not
experience any long COVID
1:20:41
Following his bout with the
virus in July of 2022. His
1:20:45
doctor also says that Biden is
fit to successfully execute the
1:20:49
duties of the presidency,
1:20:51
Adam Curry: where's the brain
analysis?
1:20:54
John C Dvorak: Well, they also
left something out that everyone
1:20:56
else kind of brought up which he
has an awkward gait. Yeah. And
1:21:02
the doctor brought it up. And I
was thinking about this because
1:21:04
this goes back to the our show's
been on for a long time. Yeah.
1:21:07
And we used to do a segment
about Biden called and we have a
1:21:12
jingle for it. Called drunk or
not drunk.
1:21:16
Adam Curry: I don't think that's
true. Did that start with Biden?
1:21:19
Yes. I don't didn't really.
Where's the jingle? Oh, here it
1:21:24
is. Yes, we do I just showed.
Was that about Biden?
1:21:32
John C Dvorak: I'm pretty sure
it was about but I'm not pretty
1:21:34
sure I'm convinced it's about
Biden, because we had a lot of
1:21:37
Biden clips because he was
always slurring and could be his
1:21:40
energy was off and we'd play a
clip of Biden and then it would
1:21:43
be drunk or not drunk. And but
we haven't
1:21:47
Adam Curry: for Nadler for
Kamala, we do have him for Oh,
1:21:50
George Bush.
1:21:52
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Bush is
always tiny drunk, too. But
1:21:55
there was a lot of Biden clips
and Biden goes way back with
1:21:58
having this kind of high, you
know, energy and then having
1:22:02
this drunk sound. I think he was
an alcoholic. And I think that's
1:22:06
where that gate comes from.
Because I that gate, I have seen
1:22:10
that gate. A number of times
from out and out drunks that
1:22:15
lived in the neighborhoods
they've been in. I think he's
1:22:18
just
1:22:18
Adam Curry: old and senile. I
mean, why throw it on the drunk
1:22:21
thing? He's just old.
1:22:22
John C Dvorak: Saying you get
it. Get a gate like that. You
1:22:25
now okay. He is now old and seen
while I'm on the domestic beat
1:22:30
condemning things. Yes. Yeah. So
he just Anthony Scaramucci has a
1:22:36
podcast now.
1:22:37
Adam Curry: Yeah. Really. You're
really digging at the bottom of
1:22:42
the barrel when you're going to
the to Anthony Scaramucci, his
1:22:44
podcast.
1:22:45
John C Dvorak: And I think I may
have had some influence on it
1:22:47
because he did one of his first
podcast technically with me
1:22:51
Adam Curry: while he's also
friends with with Horowitz
1:22:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh, they
are? Yeah. Yes, they are friends
1:22:57
because of the investment angle,
but he's also super good
1:23:02
friends. Super good, super
1:23:03
Adam Curry: good. Friends, Trump
with
1:23:05
John C Dvorak: Cuomo with Cuomo.
He's on his podcast. And this is
1:23:10
because I wanted to get this
clip since we're bashing Don
1:23:13
Lemon and Cuomo saying that when
he got fired from CNN, he wanted
1:23:17
to kill everyone and then kill
himself.
1:23:21
Unknown: Good time is going to
go away. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
1:23:24
Adam Curry: You're giving me
cues?
1:23:26
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm sorry.
But so the thing is, I got two
1:23:31
clips here. First, I've got the
opening clip of his show, which
1:23:35
got an undo Columbo. I just want
to point out to it's out of
1:23:40
phase. Now, not everybody knows
what that means. But you do
1:23:47
Adam Curry: I do. Yes. It sounds
like you're talking through your
1:23:50
butthole
1:23:51
John C Dvorak: is out of phase
and you get that you can get out
1:23:54
of phase using stereo mics.
There's a lot of different ways
1:23:57
you can achieve the sound. But
it's not wanted. It's not the
1:24:02
idea. It's not the idea. And his
so his he and the thing is is
1:24:08
local he's out of phase, and his
does guests not aren't
1:24:12
necessarily which makes it even
more rinky dink madness, but I
1:24:16
want to play the beginning of
him so you can hear what I'm
1:24:19
talking about with an out of
phase situation where the
1:24:23
recording
1:24:25
Adam Curry: music is good.
1:24:26
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Whether it's a highly
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Adam Curry: Now how about little
detail on your investment with
1:24:57
FTX their motion Yeah, that was
that was a really
1:25:01
John C Dvorak: they also he also
pops his PS what kind
1:25:05
Adam Curry: of what kind of mic
does it maybe the mic maybe
1:25:08
using a weird mic that he's
1:25:10
John C Dvorak: mic so using
contribute to
1:25:13
Adam Curry: people have like
these you get these USB mics
1:25:16
that people run through a mixer
that could be
1:25:19
John C Dvorak: yeah what there's
a lot of possibilities whatever
1:25:21
the case is he hasn't got a pop
filter and he's popping his
1:25:26
piece and is and he's and he's
awkward. He doesn't feel
1:25:29
comfortable. You can tell he
doesn't like doing this. I don't
1:25:31
know why he's doing it. But he
did have Cuomo on and Cuomo
1:25:34
here. And it's not as
spectacular as I'd hoped. But
1:25:37
Cuomo does say he was wanted to
shoot everybody as CNN and then
1:25:42
kill himself after he got fired.
And by the way, if people want
1:25:47
to hear a self absorbed person
of being interviewed, go find
1:25:51
his Scaramucci podcasting and
listen to Cuomo just talks about
1:25:58
himself excessively and he's
like he's just he's just really
1:26:03
must be insufferable in person.
But this is the part I it's not
1:26:07
as great as I'd hoped. But he
did. I'm thinking now he's
1:26:10
working for this other operation
news, reality or news? Whatever
1:26:14
Adam Curry: newsletter news
newsletter news, and
1:26:18
John C Dvorak: I would say I
would be really skeptical about
1:26:20
being a producer for him if this
is what he thinks, but here it
1:26:23
is for people who want to know
1:26:25
Adam Curry: as producers were
child Fiddler's
1:26:29
John C Dvorak: is that. Okay?
1:26:31
Unknown: Good. Time is going to
go away the bad time is also
1:26:34
going to go away. I'm is
immutable. No question.
1:26:37
Adam Curry: Totally crap.
Everything's out of phase this.
1:26:40
This whole thing is out of
phase,
1:26:41
Unknown: right? But it's very
subjective. Just because a long
1:26:44
time goes away, doesn't mean you
gotta be doing the right things.
1:26:49
You got to make things happen.
There is no luck. There is no
1:26:51
fate, there is no destiny. What
happens is what you make happen
1:26:55
and how you deal with what is
made to happen to you, for
1:26:57
better and worse. And, you know,
I make a lot of mistakes.
1:27:02
Sometimes for good reasons,
sometimes for bad reason. I'm
1:27:05
very flawed, there's damage,
there's damage that's relatable
1:27:09
to people, there's damage that's
unrelatable to people that I
1:27:12
have to deal with that I tried
to deal with that I do the work
1:27:15
on, I still fail. And I have
learned to accept that I had to
1:27:20
accept because I was going to
kill everybody, including
1:27:23
myself. Things can consume you
Italians are so passionate, and
1:27:27
I really had to fight against
that. Because, you know, just
1:27:30
like you did. I got too many
people counting on me.
1:27:33
Adam Curry: Does he? I got so
many people counting on me. Does
1:27:37
he is he have a book out about
him wanting to kill him. That's
1:27:39
probably this is a setup. Either
it's out or he's getting ready
1:27:42
for it. He's promoting a book
about his IOMMU I wanted to kill
1:27:45
everybody wanted to kill myself.
It's all about me. Look at me
1:27:48
because Italians are passionate.
Screw this guy. Don't close.
1:27:54
John C Dvorak: Close. Close. But
believe me, you're close. But
1:28:00
the thing is, he had a book deal
that was killed after he was
1:28:05
fired. And he's suing the
publisher. So he's got no book
1:28:08
coming out and you start suing
publishers. You're gonna be Oh,
1:28:11
yeah, you're never gonna get a
book. That's like
1:28:13
Adam Curry: saying I was
discriminated against as a
1:28:15
woman. I didn't get a raise.
That's right. You're never
1:28:17
working in television again.
Natali Morris?
1:28:21
John C Dvorak: Well, I need it
better was cat Sadler down an E
1:28:25
News.
1:28:26
Adam Curry: All right. Back to
gay. Because you tell me since
1:28:33
you're the expert, is this a man
or a woman speaking?
1:28:38
Unknown: One example would be
the quote unquote don't say gay
1:28:40
law in Florida. You know it.
Studies show that one supportive
1:28:45
adult
1:28:45
Adam Curry: man or woman, man.
And what is the man's name?
1:28:52
Karen No, Rachel.
1:28:55
John C Dvorak: That's Rachel.
That's Rachel lovey. It sounds
1:28:58
like a man. Well, looks like a
woman.
1:29:01
Unknown: One supportive adult
for an LGBT actually this is
1:29:04
Adam Curry: a pretty interesting
clip. I've carried this over for
1:29:06
a few shows. This is what Rachel
Levine had to say. And it's
1:29:09
about Florida. This is why I
play it the don't say gay law
1:29:13
but just listen to what P she
you think used to be Richard.
1:29:17
I'm just gonna dead name because
this I don't even believe that
1:29:20
Rachel Levine is transferred
because because he believes he's
1:29:24
trans. I just it's hard for me
to believe that seems like a
1:29:27
gag.
1:29:28
John C Dvorak: Kind of like,
like the guy like to teach
1:29:31
Adam Curry: with the big boobs
Exactly. Feels like a gag again.
1:29:35
Unknown: One example would be
the quote unquote, don't say gay
1:29:37
law. In Florida. You know it,
studies show that one supportive
1:29:42
adult, one supportive adult for
an LGBTQ plus kid can make all
1:29:48
the difference in terms of
preventing suicide in terms of
1:29:51
them, being able to navigate the
world and to adulthood and
1:29:55
leading a you know, a happy,
successful, productive life.
1:29:59
Once sort of Dove. I'd love it
if that was always the parent,
1:30:02
but it's not always apparent.
Frequently, it's a teacher, or a
1:30:06
guidance counselor or some other
coach or another school
1:30:09
personnel. This law forbids kids
essentially from from talking to
1:30:14
these people, because they also,
it means that the that if you
1:30:17
tell a teacher, the teacher has
to tell the parent. And so it
1:30:20
really is, is a gag rule, it's a
gag law, to to to hell, and that
1:30:25
to two kids from accessing
supportive adults.
1:30:29
Adam Curry: So really is better
if, if this is just one, you
1:30:33
only need one supportive adult,
this is. Yes, I think if a
1:30:39
teacher, whatever your child is
going through a teacher should
1:30:41
talk to the parents about it
shouldn't be just and especially
1:30:44
not if teachers just have the
capability to enjoy. Let's go
1:30:48
talk to this doctor over here.
Anyway, that that's your
1:30:51
Assistant Secretary of Health
and Human Services. So now let's
1:30:56
listen to de Santos. As you
would say, Ronnie, I do not like
1:31:01
the directions he's headed. This
sounds like a good idea. But I
1:31:06
don't like it. So
1:31:08
Unknown: what is the digital
Bill of Rights? Well, we want to
1:31:11
protect your right as a
Floridian to have private in
1:31:15
person conversations without big
tech surveilling you, if you
1:31:20
want to consent to let them have
this information. So they can
1:31:23
fashion advertising based off of
it, it's your right to consent
1:31:27
to do so. But it should only be
if you consent, and they don't
1:31:30
have a right to have that
information. As a matter of
1:31:33
first principle, we also are
going to protect the right to
1:31:37
participate in online platforms
without unfair censorship. We
1:31:42
want free speech, we want more
speech, not less speech, we want
1:31:45
to protect the right to know how
these Internet search engines
1:31:49
are manipulating search results,
transparency, in terms of what
1:31:53
we're doing so that you can
evaluate whether that's a search
1:31:56
engine that you want to use. Or
maybe you want to take your
1:31:59
business elsewhere. We want to
protect your right to control
1:32:03
all your personal data on the
largest and most common
1:32:07
platforms, they take that
personal data, and they make a
1:32:10
fortune off your personal data.
So you're talking about Google,
1:32:14
Facebook, just a handful these
companies, they should really
1:32:19
get Express authorization from
you before they're able to
1:32:23
monetize that or use it in any
way. And then finally, digital
1:32:27
Bill of Rights aims to protect
children from various online
1:32:32
harms. And as we see, that's a
huge issue.
1:32:34
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Somebody
Think of the children, there
1:32:37
should be no legislation. This
digital especially called the
1:32:41
Digital Bill of Rights. No,
these are all rights we have,
1:32:45
instead of what they want. What
DeSantis wants is he wants
1:32:50
control. He wants to control the
internet. This is why they all
1:32:53
put but it's net neutrality is
the same thing. I mean, this,
1:32:57
this debate will not end well.
You don't really want this you
1:33:02
want education. You want to tell
people, here's the here's all
1:33:05
the crap that's going down.
Here's the systems and here's
1:33:09
the companies that do it. Here's
what they do. Just just educate
1:33:12
people continuously. That's what
they need. Not to Oh,
1:33:16
government's going to save me
government's going to protect
1:33:19
me. That has never worked out.
I'm hoping you would agree with
1:33:23
me on this.
1:33:27
John C Dvorak: Well, just to
take the other side of it,
1:33:29
because you do that to me now
every day. Well, you deserve and
1:33:33
I would pray. I would say it's
just blather. It's just he's
1:33:38
just talking out of his ass
because none of this is going to
1:33:41
happen one way or the other. Oh,
that's digital. Right? That's
1:33:45
just Italys just bullshit.
That's just as good. I'll take
1:33:48
that.
1:33:50
Adam Curry: Look, okay, I want
to move to climate change
1:33:52
because there's stuff happening.
Yes, yes, there's good stuff
1:33:55
happening and climate change the
war
1:33:58
Unknown: means
1:34:01
Adam Curry: a war on me. Let's
make meat look bad. We
1:34:05
Unknown: also learned today that
a Wisconsin company paid more
1:34:08
than one and a half million
dollars in fines for violating
1:34:12
child labor laws. The Labor
Department says packers
1:34:16
sanitation services had more
than 100 children, some as young
1:34:19
as 13, working at more than a
dozen meat processing plants in
1:34:24
eight states.
1:34:25
Adam Curry: Now when I was 13 I
had jobs like that not
1:34:29
meatpacking. But
1:34:32
John C Dvorak: I wouldn't think
so. No,
1:34:34
Adam Curry: but there were
there. I worked. I did work for
1:34:37
FAR. I worked for a butcher. I
did some stuff and I didn't
1:34:39
actually pack the meat. But I
was around I mean, you're not
1:34:42
allowed to have a job when
you're 13
1:34:45
John C Dvorak: like a Saturday
jobs when I was 13. I had jobs
1:34:48
Adam Curry: when I was a
paperboy. Same with me. Is that
1:34:50
not allowed anymore?
1:34:53
John C Dvorak: I said I said I
think it is but I think when I
1:34:56
was a kid and I wanted to work
in a factory and I wasn't which
1:35:00
is, you know, in high school,
for example, you had to get a
1:35:04
work permit.
1:35:06
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. I've never
gotten that.
1:35:08
John C Dvorak: So I got a work
permit to work a full time job
1:35:12
and during the summer, and I
think you had to be 14 to get to
1:35:17
work permit or 15 to 14,
probably. And you get these it
1:35:22
was really just a rubber stamp.
1:35:24
Adam Curry: Exactly me well, by
Nike. There's no children
1:35:27
involved in gluing that
together.
1:35:29
John C Dvorak: All right, well,
that's a good point. It's kind
1:35:30
of hypocritical report.
1:35:32
Adam Curry: Let's go down to the
electric vehicles. There's a hit
1:35:35
out on EVs. It has to it has to
happen because we're moving to
1:35:39
clean hydrogen, which just will
not work 56,000 hydrogen
1:35:45
vehicles already on the road in
America. So they say, Here's
1:35:50
Bloomberg. Kind of setting the
narrative. This was a podcast,
1:35:54
by the way, setting the
narrative with this guy, Steven
1:35:57
schork about just how bad
electric vehicles are for the
1:36:01
environment. This obviously
revolves around the battery.
1:36:04
Unknown: You said a line there,
I think it was EVs are certainly
1:36:07
not that environmentally
friendly. Explain that to us.
1:36:11
Yeah. I mean, this look what's
happening in California right
1:36:14
now, we're at the first
lifecycle ending of those solar
1:36:17
panels. California does not
never had a plan to dispose of
1:36:22
those solar panels. So now all
the heavy metal that was sold
1:36:25
pens was sitting in a dumps with
potential of all the heavy
1:36:30
metals in there leaking out into
the environment. And now when
1:36:34
you factor in the fact that EVs
are such a small percentage of
1:36:38
the global market, when we talk
about the amount of Earth, and
1:36:41
we're talking about something
about the size of the state of
1:36:44
Arizona, and Nevada, just here,
the United States to see our
1:36:47
demand, the amount of Earth
you're going to have to rip up
1:36:50
to get to these heavy metals. So
that's we're ripping up China,
1:36:53
we're going to rip up the Congo,
which we already are, we're
1:36:56
going to rip up Argentina to get
to the to the cobalt there, when
1:37:00
we have to rip up that earth it
will make 120 130 years of coal
1:37:04
mining and oil drilling look
like a pinprick of the amount of
1:37:09
environmental degradation we're
gonna have to do to get those
1:37:13
virtue signaling and heavy
metals into that evey battery
1:37:17
states and why don't we have in
that conversation more? I don't
1:37:21
know. I mean, it's what we're
doing because we're such a
1:37:23
fractured political donation, if
I'm seeing something 49 50% of
1:37:28
the people watching this think
I'm nuts and think I'm some kind
1:37:31
of pushing some sort of agenda.
I'm just looking for a meeting
1:37:34
of the minds and I want to I
want to I want to really promote
1:37:37
my hybrid. It's the best of both
worlds. It's a little bit of
1:37:41
fossil dough going away there.
And it's a little bit of
1:37:45
electricity. It's a little bit
of both compromise.
1:37:48
Adam Curry: Yeah, there it is.
The war is on and this is my
1:37:52
favorite one. Oh, Tesla recalls,
1:37:55
Unknown: voluntarily recalling
more than 360,000 vehicles
1:37:58
warning that it's experimental
Driver Assistance software may
1:38:02
cause crashes. Federal
investigators say Tesla's full
1:38:05
self driving beta software can
send cars straight through
1:38:09
intersections where there's a
turn only lane failed to come to
1:38:12
a full stop at stop signs or
blow through yellow lights. It
1:38:16
says it will update the software
in the impacted vehicles.
1:38:20
Adam Curry: So the choice here
for the term recall is very
1:38:24
interesting for
1:38:25
John C Dvorak: very
controversial NPR locally, I
1:38:28
didn't have the clip, but I was
gonna get it it just seemed a
1:38:31
little long and boring. But they
made a big fuss about it Tesla
1:38:35
made the first it was must be so
why we're not nobody has to
1:38:38
drive their car indices and over
there were software fix. Why do
1:38:43
you insist on calling it a
recall? And NPR persisted on
1:38:47
calling it a recall as though
they were in on it. Here's ABC
1:38:51
Unknown: CEO Elon Musk
1:38:52
is taking issue with the word
recall saying using that word
1:38:56
for an over the air software
update is just plain wrong.
1:39:00
Adam Curry: Yeah, but she's on
the losing end. He's on the
1:39:03
losing end while
1:39:05
John C Dvorak: he was I doing
clip for this series Tesla crash
1:39:11
Unknown: is dead after
1:39:12
Adam Curry: a Tesla slam into a
fire truck in the East Bay
1:39:14
happened this morning. A
northbound six ad Firefighters
1:39:18
say the Tesla hit a truck that
was blocking a different crash
1:39:22
driver died at the scene.
Passenger and four firefighters
1:39:25
were taken to the hospital. They
have all since been released.
1:39:28
Yeah, I love the Super Bowl
commercials. Most people who
1:39:33
hate Tesla was not Yeah, it was
Tesla, right. They're out to get
1:39:38
them they're out to get they're
out to eat well, ever
1:39:40
John C Dvorak: since Musk said
vote Republican. And ever since
1:39:43
he began ever since the
1:39:45
Adam Curry: Twitter files. Of
course. Maybe he's only maybe
1:39:48
he's not that smart. Oh, what
did I just say there?
1:39:51
John C Dvorak: Maybe this is a
part of a bigger play.
1:39:53
Adam Curry: No, no, he just made
each. He's just not impressive.
1:39:56
I've met him he's not
impressive. He didn't start
1:39:59
these kinds. Companies he was
put in there by Sequoia Capital.
1:40:03
Roelof, Botha is the CEO another
South African. It's the Cabal.
1:40:08
And you know, and his hair is
fake news. I hate I hate to do
1:40:12
it, but it's just like. And he
was really, really unattractive
1:40:16
and balding, and now he's just
not balding and unattractive.
1:40:20
And it just doesn't seem smart.
He just talk talk talks,
1:40:24
interestingly. Alright, the view
had a scoop. She didn't come to
1:40:29
see them, of course, because she
no longer flies. But I guess
1:40:34
Greta is back on the scene.
1:40:38
Unknown: In the last five years,
Greta Thun Berg has gone from a
1:40:41
solo student activist to an
international icon and the
1:40:44
movement to combat climate
change. Now she and more than
1:40:47
100 experts are sounding yet
another global warning on the
1:40:51
crisis in the climate book,
which is right here joining us
1:40:55
from Sweden. Please welcome
Greta Thun Berg.
1:41:04
Thank you for coming on the
show. Congratulations on the
1:41:07
book, we should point out that
it's been 60 degrees here in New
1:41:10
York this week in mid February,
just saying
1:41:13
Adam Curry: just didn't we have
like a an Arctic bomb? Oh, gosh.
1:41:22
Just Damn. Weather is not
climate.
1:41:25
Unknown: I wonder how would you
describe where we stand today in
1:41:28
terms of climate, the climate
crisis? Are we better or worse
1:41:32
off than when you began striking
five years ago?
1:41:36
Adam Curry: Now what would the
answer be to this question?
1:41:39
John C Dvorak: In your worst
self, of course,
1:41:41
Adam Curry: is that really all
your full Ramsar? Is that the if
1:41:44
you're Greta, that's all you
would say? We're just worse off?
1:41:48
John C Dvorak: How dare you say
that very dare you.
1:41:52
Unknown: It depends on how you
see it. If you see it. From one
1:41:55
perspective, the concentration,
the level of co2 in the
1:41:59
atmosphere is higher now than it
was before. We are seeing more
1:42:02
and more natural disasters, more
people are displaced more people
1:42:06
are losing their lives and
livelihoods due to the
1:42:08
consequences of the climate
crisis. So in that,
1:42:10
Adam Curry: who's losing a job
over the consequence of the
1:42:13
climate crisis.
1:42:16
John C Dvorak: craniums are
displaced
1:42:18
Unknown: more people are losing
their lives and livelihoods due
1:42:20
to the consequences of the
climate crisis. So in that
1:42:23
sense, we are far worse off than
we were before. But also we can
1:42:27
see that more and more people
are starting to stand up and
1:42:29
speak up, speak out about these
issues, and more people are
1:42:33
mobilizing so but it's going
wait way too slow. So I would
1:42:38
say we're both better off and
much worse off.
1:42:42
Adam Curry: It's better and
worse. Wrong. My question would
1:42:47
be, what do you think of those
stickers on? On gas tanks and
1:42:51
gas stations of you? What do you
think of that question? No, no,
1:42:55
no, we can't do that. We have to
bring in some culture and Greta.
1:42:59
I'm sorry. Go ahead.
1:43:00
John C Dvorak: I was gonna say
if I was gonna ask her stuff. I
1:43:02
asked her if she was okay with
all these private jets that fly
1:43:05
into these climate meetups.
1:43:06
Adam Curry: Well, she doesn't
fly anymore. You see, so you
1:43:08
didn't fly out. But
1:43:09
John C Dvorak: is she okay with
everybody else flying in and
1:43:11
it's private jets?
1:43:13
Adam Curry: Did I play the Bill
Gates? answer to that question.
1:43:19
John C Dvorak: I don't think
like the Jeffrey Epstein is dead
1:43:21
Adam Curry: known. Know about
the private key of the BBC asked
1:43:25
gates that very question.
1:43:27
John C Dvorak: What do you say
to the charge that if you are a
1:43:30
climate change campaigner, but
you also travel around the world
1:43:33
and a private jet, you're a
hypocrite? Well, I, I
1:43:38
Unknown: by the gold standard of
funding climeworks to do direct
1:43:44
air capture that far exceeds my
family's carbon footprint. And I
1:43:51
spend billions of dollars on on
climate innovation. I'm so good.
1:43:55
So, you know, should I stay at
home and not come to Kenya and
1:43:59
learn about farming and malaria?
Anyway, I mean, I'm
1:44:04
uncomfortable with the idea that
not only am I not part of the
1:44:10
problem by paying for the
offsets, but also through the
1:44:14
billions that my Breakthrough
Energy Group is spending that
1:44:19
I'm part of the
1:44:19
solution.
1:44:21
Adam Curry: I'm good, I'm
virtuous, I spend money
1:44:23
John C Dvorak: i There should be
a follow up question. And I
1:44:26
could have been the one to ask
it. Even though everyone else
1:44:28
should have asked it. Bill. You
used to refuse to fly in private
1:44:32
jets and only go commercial
1:44:35
Adam Curry: coach and you fly
coach. That's right. I remember
1:44:38
they always
1:44:38
John C Dvorak: flew coach, in
fact, and the thing of course,
1:44:41
the gimmick there was he flew
coach, but he always got
1:44:43
upgraded by the airline, because
he was so rich. So they always
1:44:48
move in the first class and I
ran into him once on a flight
1:44:50
and I went in first class where
he was and chatted with him for
1:44:53
a bit and I went back to coach
afterwards, where you belong,
1:44:58
where I belong. Marriage. So, so
he used to always do that he
1:45:04
refused to get a private jet
until he married and Melinda is
1:45:07
the one who got him to
1:45:08
Adam Curry: No, no, I think once
he was on that Epstein Lolita
1:45:11
Express, he's like, this is the
ship.
1:45:14
John C Dvorak: I think that's
what happened. I think he got on
1:45:16
the Epstein plane after he got
married.
1:45:18
Adam Curry: I'm going to skip
the credit because just not
1:45:21
interesting because now that
Africa is I just need to play a
1:45:24
couple of Africa clips because
Africa is so on deck. Now, we
1:45:28
are going to not not that we
haven't been already but the EU,
1:45:32
China, United States, Russia,
all positioning to rape Africa.
1:45:38
But we got to change a few
things. First, here's Antonio
1:45:40
Contreras, who is the Secretary
General of the United Nations.
1:45:45
Unknown: Well, after the opening
of the African Union summit, the
1:45:48
UN Secretary General Antonio
Guterres said that the African
1:45:51
countries are being denied much
needed debt relief, he sought
1:45:55
reforms to the structures of
international finance to better
1:45:58
serve the needs of developing
countries.
1:46:01
Investing in Africa best ways to
prosperity requires finance and
1:46:06
developing countries are
repeatedly left in the lurch.
1:46:10
The global financial system
routinely denies them depth
1:46:14
relief and concessional
financing, while charging
1:46:18
extortionate interest rates. As
a result, vital systems are
1:46:23
starved of investment from Elson
education to green technology,
1:46:27
social protection and the
creation of new sustainable
1:46:30
jobs.
1:46:31
Adam Curry: Now this is the
thing we keep hearing is that we
1:46:34
need to change international
finance. This is not being done
1:46:38
the right way. We've heard we
need to change the leadership at
1:46:42
the World Bank because we need
everyone to come together and
1:46:44
finance Africa for climate
change. And they got their wish
1:46:49
it's not the
1:46:49
Unknown: business Kate moody
Jones has sided with the news of
1:46:51
the precedence of the World Bank
is stepping down.
1:46:55
Early Malpass will be leaving
his post by the end of this
1:46:58
June. That's about a year before
his five year term would have
1:47:02
expired. The reasons for his
departure were not made clear
1:47:06
Adam Curry: and probably to
spend more time with his family.
1:47:08
Malpass was appointed
1:47:09
Unknown: by the former US
President Donald Trump in 2019.
1:47:13
He's overseeing the distribution
of aid to developing countries
1:47:16
as well as war torn Ukraine, and
just last week, an initial $1.8
1:47:20
billion for Turkey. He has the
courted controversy. Last year,
1:47:25
he declined to say whether he
believed human activity
1:47:28
contributed to climate change.
He later said he had been
1:47:32
misunderstood. The World Bank
has made the green transition
1:47:35
and fighting climate change a
key pillar of its mandate.
1:47:39
Adam Curry: Okay, so there you
go. We got rid of the problem
1:47:42
guy, we can now put everyone's
money to work. And we now have a
1:47:47
clear signal. Whenever war is
coming to a country, you first
1:47:54
get this report.
1:47:56
Unknown: The satellite based
internet soon to be provided by
1:47:59
billionaire Elon Musk's high
speed Satellite Internet venture
1:48:02
is expected to give students and
teachers in Rwanda access to
1:48:06
educational resources and
digital tools. The program is
1:48:09
expected to begin this February.
1:48:11
Adam Curry: Yeah, don't ever
Elon Musk deploy Starling to a
1:48:15
country war is coming. Because
that's the sales job. Once you
1:48:19
have it deployed, then you just
flip the switch and sell it to
1:48:21
the military under what's it
called? Defense link or
1:48:25
whatever. Yeah, same thing.
Yeah, same thing. Only 100 times
1:48:30
as expensive. So Africa for and
luckily Dave Ackerman is
1:48:36
scouring Africa news every
single day. That because that's
1:48:40
the only news we'll get about it
except that everyone has been to
1:48:44
different African countries. The
Russians, the Chinese, we have
1:48:48
the Brits, everyone's everyone's
going to Africa getting it all.
1:48:52
John C Dvorak: You're giving it
up behind the scenes somewhere.
1:48:54
Adam Curry: What do you mean
they're giving it up? Divi?
1:48:57
Divi? Divi? Oh, yeah, possible
very possible. We say
1:49:07
John C Dvorak: well, if you join
my climb, it lets you play this
1:49:09
whole clip of mine. NPR clip on
DeSantis you have to look it up
1:49:13
because it's from a couple of
shows ago DeSantis and climate
1:49:17
change
1:49:19
Adam Curry: after Santos came
back into the picture. Got it.
1:49:24
Unknown: Florida Governor Ron
DeSantis has touted it
1:49:26
Adam Curry: was DeSantis we're
doing it wrong. We said DeSantis
1:49:30
de Santos its DeSantis Florida
1:49:32
Unknown: Governor Ron DeSantis
has touted a record amount of
1:49:35
spending to help his state
prepare for the effects of
1:49:38
climate change. But his policy
on that front is coming under
1:49:41
scrutiny by many residents still
reeling from Hurricane Ian. Amy
1:49:45
green of W MFE and Orlando
reports.
1:49:48
Jason Diaz awoke in the middle
of the night to the sound of
1:49:51
trickling water.
1:49:52
When I stepped up. I was already
ankle deep in water.
1:49:56
The next few hours were a blur
of evacuating family members and
1:49:59
neighbors Whereas in swimming
through five feet of water. A
1:50:03
few days later, Diaz sat near a
noisy idling bus outside the
1:50:06
Kissimmee Civic Center, which
had been turned into a shelter
1:50:10
for the displace like him.
Virtually everything he owned
1:50:14
was swamped back at his
apartment.
1:50:16
Massaro about losing my stuff is
just that I had. And I might get
1:50:21
emotional. I had a collection of
collectibles for my grandkids
1:50:25
that I've been collecting for 30
years. And that's all gone.
1:50:29
When Hurricane Ian hit Florida.
It destroyed coastal communities
1:50:33
in southwest Florida, before
causing widespread flooding
1:50:36
across the state's interior. The
hurricane show is what states
1:50:39
like Florida faces climate
change leads to more extreme
1:50:42
weather DeSantis has focused his
climate change policy on
1:50:46
resilience. Under his
leadership, the state has put
1:50:49
more than a billion dollars
toward hardening infrastructure
1:50:52
against rising seas and more
destructive storms. The governor
1:50:56
Republican faces reelection next
month and is considered a
1:51:00
potential front runner for the
GOP presidential nomination in
1:51:04
2024. During a stop in Daytona
Beach, DeSantis said he's
1:51:08
noticed that newer
infrastructures seem to fare
1:51:11
better against hurricane Ian,
the stuff
1:51:13
that was new same with some of
the homes you do see the impact
1:51:17
of that. And so I think we were
right to to do things like we
1:51:20
have with the resilient
coastline
1:51:22
DeSantis this program was signed
into law in 2021, which means
1:51:26
it's unlikely to have had a big
impact on infrastructure before
1:51:30
the hurricane. Environmental
groups say the governor's
1:51:33
climate change. Okay.
1:51:35
Adam Curry: That was really
pretty boring.
1:51:37
John C Dvorak: It was very
boring. That's probably what
1:51:38
wasn't played.
1:51:40
Adam Curry: What was that
actually about? Wait, he was
1:51:45
John C Dvorak: climatologist was
going to be a good guy to vote
1:51:47
for
1:51:48
Adam Curry: was that MTD? told
me it was?
1:51:50
John C Dvorak: No that was NPR?
Goodness. Which makes no sense
1:51:54
if you think about it.
1:51:55
Adam Curry: Oh, that rule
actually kind of hurt. Yeah. Did
1:51:59
you have something else before
we? Here's I'll tell you what
1:52:01
we're gonna do. We have not even
touched on Ohio. I know
1:52:05
everyone's so excited to talk
about Ohio. So we'll have to
1:52:08
talk about Ohio, Ohio, Ohio,
Ohio. Because that's all we can
1:52:12
talk about because it's the
political gambit of the hour.
1:52:17
Abused by every every politician
almost from the get go. And also
1:52:22
about Turkey a turkey ADA semana
news we should talk about there
1:52:27
but before that, I'd like to say
in the morning to you the man
1:52:30
who put the sea in the
fraudulent claims of fraud
1:52:33
ladies and gentlemen, please say
hello to my friend on the other
1:52:35
end Mr. John C. davara.
1:52:39
John C Dvorak: Morning to you
Mr. Adam curiosity in the
1:52:41
morning all ships to see boots
to the ground feet in the air,
1:52:43
substance and water and all the
days and nights out in the
1:52:45
morning
1:52:46
Adam Curry: to the trolls over
there in the troll room. We've
1:52:48
had a lot of trolls hanging out
in the troll room and you can be
1:52:50
one if you want troll room.io
You can log in right that you do
1:52:54
need an email address that
actually works. Some trolls
1:52:58
thing to oh, I can circumvent
this by doing a fake email
1:53:01
address. No, because you have to
confirm that you're that you're
1:53:04
there. So we have so we can
register trolls and track you
1:53:08
down and shoot you. So let's
count
1:53:15
2294 I think that's a good
number.
1:53:19
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you know,
it's pretty standard for Sunday.
1:53:22
Adam Curry: Well, that's not
bad. It's been worse, that's for
1:53:24
sure. trolls, TROLLS, you can
also become a troll in the
1:53:29
following manner get a new app,
a modern app that actually has
1:53:35
all these capabilities and we
have a new website it used to be
1:53:38
new podcast apps.com still in
play. Now we have podcast
1:53:43
apps.com These are the ones you
want. And guess what not on
1:53:46
their Apple Spotify podcast
apps.com You can find many
1:53:51
modern podcast apps where you
can actually get an alert go
1:53:55
straight into the troll room
troll wrong here the live stream
1:53:58
and you get all your podcasts in
there as well at pod bursts
1:54:01
podcast attic Casta curio caster
all of these work perfectly.
1:54:06
Yeah, now let us Oh, of course
we also have no agenda
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bill of rights over there. You
do whatever you want, pretty
1:54:19
much just Don't piss me off
because then you know, I can
1:54:21
kick you off if I feel like it.
Or if John tells me to, which
1:54:24
happens a lot. John will say
kick that guy off. Okay.
1:54:30
John C Dvorak: I'd like twice
okay. All right in five years.
1:54:34
Adam Curry: Now, let us thank
the artists. The no agenda
1:54:37
artists who are incredibly kind
with their value they contribute
1:54:42
to the show every single show
while we're doing it live they
1:54:44
are creating art. We will use
one of these pieces will choose
1:54:48
it right after the show was
done. We thank the artist for
1:54:51
episode 1530. We titled that one
red queen Roger roundy had it it
1:54:56
just made us laugh. It had kind
of it had a nice appeal to it
1:54:59
too. was the what are those
flowers of those like? Those
1:55:06
yellow flowers?
1:55:07
John C Dvorak: This is a flower
of some sort.
1:55:09
Adam Curry: Like a water lily of
some sort. Yeah, it looked it
1:55:12
looks a bit like a lily. I'm
sorry about your pipeline love
1:55:16
CIA and curry Dvorak separated
by a little cartoonish bomb. It
1:55:22
somehow it struck the right
chord with us.
1:55:24
John C Dvorak: It definitely
made you laugh a lot. Yeah, I
1:55:27
Adam Curry: did. Well, I laugh.
That's kind of what I'm looking
1:55:30
for. I'm always looking for a
laugh that makes a cheap laugh.
1:55:33
Yes, that makes both of us.
chuckle is even better. There
1:55:38
were a couple of ones in there
that were that were pretty
1:55:41
cheap. Let's see. A lot has been
added. I can see now. We
1:55:48
actually debated quite a while
about the the aircraft with the
1:55:53
pins.
1:55:54
John C Dvorak: With the preamps
I use it for the newsletter. I
1:55:57
saw that now. What was at issue
with this? Well, for one thing,
1:56:01
it's not an F 22 Raptor. Yes, I
believe that's an F 16. So that
1:56:07
Oh, Pa of epic proportions.
Obviously. It's also clipart
1:56:11
which was fine. He's probably
licenses, but it's been around a
1:56:14
little too much that clipart
I've seen too often.
1:56:16
Adam Curry: Yeah, it was really
good. We always do the Google
1:56:20
Image Search and but the
1:56:21
John C Dvorak: pins were
dynamite. Yes. I mean, we could
1:56:25
have used it
1:56:25
Adam Curry: but we're just
really afraid of comics or
1:56:27
Blogger giving a shit so he's
gonna
1:56:29
John C Dvorak: go off. It's
really fun is really so who
1:56:31
created the comic strip blogger
had a really good piece, but we
1:56:34
both knew just by looking at
that it was done by AI so
1:56:37
Adam Curry: automatically off
the list. We thought the was
1:56:43
that Kareem Abdul Jabbar Top Gun
by networks. Very funny. very
1:56:48
racist. We figured that wouldn't
work. Oh, she had her. Which one
1:56:53
was this? She's the pilot. She's
the Top Gun pilot. We knew that
1:56:58
we would be called up for
racist. We just saw it like nah,
1:57:01
that's not gonna work.
1:57:03
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's no
good.
1:57:05
Adam Curry: l Biden, which is
kind of funny, but we don't like
1:57:08
del Biden. We don't like and the
green el Biden.
1:57:13
John C Dvorak: Well, that's the
comic strip blogger, one that
1:57:15
obviously can't draw. That's
right. That's the one that we
1:57:18
hated because it's a and I liked
the one next to it to this
1:57:21
sneaky Bearcat. But it's a
little bit very obscure,
1:57:24
Adam Curry: very obscure,
obscure. Then there was some
1:57:27
poker stuff. Some confusing
stuff. What was this lien which
1:57:34
I still don't understand still
talking about balloons.
1:57:39
Capitalist agenda had a red
queen rising, I'd say semi
1:57:43
cheese cake. Which we like, but
no one would understand it.
1:57:51
Everything seemed messy to me. I
mean, it was
1:57:55
John C Dvorak: it was it wasn't
a show with a lot of material
1:57:58
that would be amenable for
Appspot art.
1:58:01
Adam Curry: So you're saying
that we failed. We fell down? We
1:58:03
didn't have we didn't have a
show that has good to topics? Or
1:58:08
good gags or good job?
1:58:09
John C Dvorak: Well, yeah,
that's what I'm saying. It's
1:58:11
possible. It's possible.
1:58:13
Adam Curry: It's possible. But
anyway, Roger roundy I think it
1:58:16
was very surprised himself. Oh,
yeah.
1:58:19
John C Dvorak: No, his he's the
pieces that when he's one. It's
1:58:21
never for his good art.
1:58:23
Adam Curry: Right. When he when
he swing into swing out of his
1:58:26
cleats. It never happens. Just
throw something out there. Yeah,
1:58:30
we'll go for that. Thank you
very much Roger round and we
1:58:33
appreciate that. And the work of
all of the artists who support
1:58:35
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We ask for your time, your
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talent, your treasure. Go look
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I mean, the only thing we've
actually done ourselves is
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DeVore act.org/na. And it's
problematic. So and by the way,
1:58:56
it's changing out here getting
the change in first quarter,
1:59:00
first quarter. Now we'd like to
thank our producers we have
1:59:05
Yeah, let
1:59:05
John C Dvorak: me let me do the
first one because the second
1:59:07
one's by special request. Okay.
And can I just one here just
1:59:13
Adam Curry: finish my rap about
producers? Sure.
1:59:18
John C Dvorak: What was it?
1:59:18
Adam Curry: Well, our producers,
they bring the treasure part of
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time, talent and treasure. In
addition to that, they get
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some very nice donations today.
We're quite happy with you go
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for it.
1:59:44
John C Dvorak: We're already
happy with this one for sure.
1:59:47
This is Kim keep keeper of the
nutty fluffers who's been around
1:59:53
and she's in Hubbard, Oregon.
She says right Since she even
2:00:00
with $2,000
2:00:02
Adam Curry: Whoa yeah we are
happy with that one man
2:00:07
John C Dvorak: came to this
conclusion after the deep fake
2:00:09
of Joe Biden rapping at the end
of show 1528 pushed her over the
2:00:14
edge. I knew then in there I had
that I do listen. Emphasize on
2:00:20
due to the best podcast in the
universe. I also need to call my
2:00:24
dad John and my mom melody out
as douchebags. One more I will
2:00:35
continue to harassment until
they donate individually nice.
2:00:40
Also, I need to ask for a little
upgrade or title upgrade. From
2:00:44
this point forth. I'd like to be
known as Countess Kim, keeper of
2:00:49
the nutty fluffers thank you so
much for all that you to do. I'm
2:00:53
going to show you an upgrade
list. I'm not sure I believe I
2:00:56
do. But classy count just Kim of
the nutty fluffers in Hubbard,
2:01:01
Oregon that she needs some
jingles. Okay. All right to D to
2:01:05
F cancer karma.
2:01:07
Unknown: Okay.
2:01:12
You've got
2:01:16
Adam Curry: no, I just want to
check because we have we have a
2:01:21
producer to thank then. End of
show mix producer for that Joe
2:01:25
Biden mix. Was it this one this
books? No, it was. It was not.
2:01:30
It was not the previous one.
What episode was it? Did she
2:01:32
say?
2:01:34
John C Dvorak: Oh,
2:01:35
Adam Curry: I think was 1529.
2:01:37
John C Dvorak: Well, whatever it
was, there was a good rap that
2:01:39
was done by a Joe Biden voice.
2:01:41
Adam Curry: Alright, and I just
want to make sure we give props
2:01:44
as che Z. I think it was che Z
with a tweet Biden bops
2:01:48
infomercial. I think that's the
one. So we appreciate you go the
2:01:52
end of show mixers, producers
helping us out in all kinds of
2:01:56
different ways. Beautiful. Thank
you very much. And thank you.
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Yes, she's a keeper. The naughty
fluffers is on the upgrade list.
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was specifically requested I
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read this one out because he
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2:03:51
has that she got from me for my
40th birthday based on your
2:03:54
personal recommendation. She was
very impressed by your prompt
2:03:58
response. This will now be
reserved for a very special day
2:04:02
to opened likely her birthday.
Lastly, please call out Steve
2:04:06
from work as a douchebag in the
obituary strong and a yacht
2:04:10
karma, please. Okay. Fantastic.
You got it man.
2:04:15
Unknown: You've got
2:04:16
Adam Curry: ah, Harmer and I
have ordered everything you
2:04:22
requested for the for the
roundtable for her. Thank you
2:04:27
very much sorry. And condolences
Of course,
2:04:31
John C Dvorak: sir Nacho
Alcatraz is up from Mexico. And
2:04:37
he says a poem he says no agenda
podcast oh so bright. Adam and
2:04:41
John bring truth to light. It's
good. News deconstruction
2:04:47
saintly, saved listen and learn.
Be truly brave. Sincerely, Chet
2:04:51
GPT and Sir Nacho Alcatraz. He
had a done by the machine is
2:04:56
that what he's trying to claim
your only Zippy can do Oh, and
2:05:01
he came in with $500. I'm gonna
go and read Brock Robinson's
2:05:06
Oxford, Alabama 333 76 I don't
have a note from him. I'll look
2:05:11
and I'll look Well, Adam reads
the next fabulous note as
2:05:14
Adam Curry: well give him a
double up karma just in case you
2:05:16
don't find the note you've got
2:05:20
Unknown: karma.
2:05:21
Adam Curry: Our next notes is
3333 dot 33. Our favorite
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executive producer donation
number from the dirty Jersey
2:05:28
horror in Gladewater. Texas.
That's a guy by the way. No
2:05:32
jingles no karma. We'd like to
start off by saying no agenda
2:05:34
podcasts and no agenda community
as a whole has definitely
2:05:36
changed the trajectory of my
life not a joke, to the perils
2:05:40
of COVID and into the other
guiding principles such as sound
2:05:43
money, Bitcoin and sound food,
the beef initiative, y'all have
2:05:46
been a steady voice and constant
source of grounding. Thanks for
2:05:49
letting me ride along in this
fantastic journey. No exit
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strategies for you. Yeah, he
wanted me to do that in the
2:05:56
voice of the soup Nazi. With
this donation I surpassed the
2:05:58
threshold to claim night status
I'd like to be known as Sir
2:06:01
dirty Jersey whore of the East
Texas Piney Woods. At the
2:06:04
roundtable. I'd like to request
Denver cut steak and a fresh new
2:06:08
england IPA from forgotten
roads. Ales quick shout out to
2:06:12
Texas Joe organized to meet up
in early 2020 at a brewery in
2:06:15
Magnolia Texas. I was there just
minding my own business. When
2:06:18
the subject of podcasts came up
in the tiny Taproom area. Joe
2:06:21
hit me in the mouth. I didn't
even realize it at the time.
2:06:23
Cheers Texas Joe. Now I host a
monthly meetup with the help of
2:06:26
Fletcher from hug story podcast
in hopes of inspiring some other
2:06:29
hapless victim. Thanks for being
awesome. Dirty Jersey whore. And
2:06:33
thank you, you know, he's like
six foot eight. The dirty Jersey
2:06:36
whore is yeah, it's quite quite
a dude. Quite a dude. Big, big
2:06:41
guy, big guy and
2:06:42
John C Dvorak: Agnes. Agnes Bay
log and a beer in Washington.
2:06:48
And he was ever been to Seattle
and rented a car and knows where
2:06:51
that is. Jared John C. And Adam.
This is my first donation please
2:06:56
de douche me.
2:06:58
Unknown: You've been de deuced
2:07:01
John C Dvorak: I was hitting the
mouse on the Barnhardt podcast
2:07:04
in December 2021. Your media
deconstruction probably saved my
2:07:06
life and it certainly saved my
sanity. I'm one of those
2:07:09
traditional Latin Mass Catholics
originally identified by the ER
2:07:13
that was recently identified by
the FBI as a possible domestic
2:07:17
terrorist. We must be doing
something right anywho I love
2:07:21
you guys. Thanks for making me
laugh and opening my eyes have
2:07:24
loved hearing about Adam and the
keepers faith journey. Lots of
2:07:27
Catholics praying for you guys
over the Barnhardt podcasts
2:07:30
including myself. There's
something you know, no Karna but
2:07:34
a Sharpton jingle Can you bear
it Christ is king. Big hugs.
2:07:39
Agnes from Buren, Washington,
2:07:42
Adam Curry: which is out by the
airport. Apparently there's no
2:07:45
real contract. Leon Atkinson
Martinez, California to 1870 and
2:07:51
I have a typewritten note here.
I've enclosed to 1872 Mark my
2:07:57
53rd NATO anniversary. Two years
ago, I felt nostalgic for
2:08:01
listening to the daily source
code I'm grateful to have read
2:08:04
just rediscovered a couple of
people who aren't totally full
2:08:06
of bull crap. Everyone else
seems to have lost their minds
2:08:09
of late Yes. Well, when you're
part of the no agenda, community
2:08:12
connection is protection. But
your conversations have been a
2:08:15
calming respite. I look forward
to them on my regular walks in
2:08:18
the hills above the Carquinez
Strait. I guess this offering of
2:08:23
value qualifies me for a de
douching
2:08:27
Unknown: dee doo Oh,
2:08:29
Adam Curry: but I'm gonna pull a
switcheroo and give all the
2:08:31
credit to my wife Vicki 25 years
and we've never had a fight.
2:08:35
Aside from being the best life
partner she helps me run 18
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intelligence 18 inc.com Our
humble internet consultancy Oh,
2:08:43
that's interesting. I should
look that up one eight i n t
2:08:46
18 inc.com. For jingles I
challenge you to dig up the
2:08:49
power of pure intellect I looked
for it. That's the daily source
2:08:51
code opener loss. I have no idea
where it is. I don't think it's
2:08:55
their follow up with some karma
that I can do. I will take that
2:08:58
as a signal to begin meditation
on loving kindness toward
2:09:01
myself. My family nights dame's
two of you, and even all those
2:09:05
people out there who are still
100% full of bull crap, aka
2:09:08
grist for the mill. And you
signs Leon Atkinson? All right,
2:09:14
I'm gonna make the switcheroo
right now.
2:09:16
Unknown: You've got
2:09:22
John C Dvorak: Aida in Richmond
Hill, Ontario, Canada, to 6453
2:09:29
just made a donation from Canada
for 373 So we should upgrade
2:09:33
this person to executive
producer. But the Pay Pal pays
2:09:37
didn't give me an option for a
short note. Tom Peroni is the
2:09:40
person who introduced me to your
show several years Tom Peroni
2:09:43
donation several years ago, I
haven't looked back since this
2:09:47
is the message I would like to
share. By the way, her interest
2:09:52
or her event I'm sorry, the the
intro into the note is longer
2:09:56
than the note. Yes. Just say you
just And the note is fine. Thank
2:10:01
you for all you do. This world
needs sanity. the sanity of your
2:10:05
show requests the relationship
karma for my daughter Emily, who
2:10:08
has been searching for an
injected partner for a while.
2:10:12
He's out there somewhere. Cheers
later.
2:10:15
Adam Curry: Yeah, well that
means we gotta roll out the
2:10:17
goat. You've got the goat always
helps. Let us know if you find
2:10:23
him. Work fuller is in Batavia,
New York with a $250 donation
2:10:30
and writes in on very handsome
looks like Bicentennial
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stationery. Buzz plus kill. Just
because it's the best podcast in
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the universe calmer for all
Gitmo nation because we all need
2:10:42
it from work ie fuller.
2:10:47
Unknown: You've got karma.
2:10:50
John C Dvorak: Sir Jeremy chum
fatty in Oakville, California
2:10:55
wine country. 22233 ITM John and
Adam Great show have some money.
2:11:01
Sir. Jeremy.
2:11:02
Adam Curry: Thank you, Daddy. We
always love the ducks quarter.
2:11:04
ODEX Cory Tibbets, Westminster,
Colorado 220 dot 21. This
2:11:08
donation about
2:11:09
John C Dvorak: Bradley. You love
Bradley.
2:11:11
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, Bradley.
Two, two 2.22 Road ducks. That's
2:11:14
the road ducks. I was thinking
of Bradley Fox from pesky
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Island, Maine. Thank you both
for all you do. Would you add me
2:11:21
to the birthday list for Oh 222
You bet. It's a little early.
2:11:24
But you bet. You're here. You're
on it.
2:11:29
John C Dvorak: Cory Tibbets, the
aforementioned in Westminister,
2:11:31
Colorado, to 20 dot 21. This
donation of 220 21 is an honor
2:11:36
my smokin hot girlfriend, Amy
Trevor, and our two year
2:11:39
anniversary. I love you. And I
look forward to many years of
2:11:43
adventure I had because the
surgery is now complete. And
2:11:52
we're living but to but
indefinitely. Thanks for being
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my best friend and lover
relationship karma to all that's
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$220.21
2:12:00
Adam Curry: What kind of surgery
is that?
2:12:03
John C Dvorak: They've now
attached it to but
2:12:05
Adam Curry: I guess in some
pictures,
2:12:07
Unknown: you've got karma
2:12:10
Adam Curry: over to Nashville,
Tennessee 220 from Kirsty
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Barnett's first heard Adam on
Glenn Beck that donation hit my
2:12:17
husband in the mouth now we
listen to every show many
2:12:20
blessings to you and John
although I really hate the D
2:12:23
word. I suppose I must request a
de douching you know jingles no
2:12:28
karma actually a Dred Scott who
does our chapters gave me a new
2:12:31
word. You can instead of a
douche pouch you can say a
2:12:36
douche bag, a juice pouch.
That's what he said. That's
2:12:40
gross. D D pouching. And D
juicing D deuced
2:12:49
John C Dvorak: pouch. You know
if you don't like the word
2:12:52
Adam Curry: don't don't use it
at all. Yeah.
2:12:56
John C Dvorak: Sir Eric's up.
He's the last guy here on this
2:12:58
list of Associate Executive
producers and executive producer
2:13:01
season. Good old Murfreesboro,
Tennessee. Dear John and Adam. I
2:13:06
request all karma possible. All
karma for Melanie am in Texas.
2:13:13
Thank you, sir Eric Knight of
Sam hain.
2:13:19
Unknown: You've got
2:13:20
Adam Curry: Carmen now those are
the Executive Associate
2:13:22
Executive producers. Do you have
a few more to thank down to the
2:13:25
50s and John's gonna do that
while I prepare our meetup
2:13:27
reports and our Daming ceremony
which is on deck today?
2:13:32
John C Dvorak: Well, let's start
off with Christine in Raleigh,
2:13:34
North Carolina $133.33 followed
by Belinda Schreurs sch R e u r
2:13:42
s in Devon meadows, Australia.
And it's a switcheroo for
2:13:46
smoking smoking hot has been
mark for his 57th birthday which
2:13:51
is coming up on the list. Thomas
Baird, in Tilburg Netherlands.
2:13:57
Another birthday donation. I'm
not seeing any switcheroo or
2:14:01
anything so let's go to Kevin if
Na came in. One One roared
2:14:05
dicks. Kevin Pfizer burger Fagor
berg is 100 He descended a note
2:14:14
which is pastries just a short
notes and great show. Yeah. Ryan
2:14:18
Ronnie Chambliss in Attica,
Indiana 100. Another birthday
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Mark handle in Vernal, Utah.
100. Sir Kevin McLaughlin, right
2:14:27
there following it up, he's up
to number 134 135 some
2:14:31
outrageous number of boob
donations of 808 followed by
2:14:36
Steven of the pop Qudra in Fort
Collins, Colorado, and 808 is
2:14:42
the first time on the boob
trainees a de douching. You've
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been de deuced Jason maror 80
bucks and Vancouver Washington.
2:14:52
Raymond Bressler in Arlington,
Washington 6996 Serene minutes
2:15:00
Is that sir Rick? That's a good
one. Well, we have a new back
2:15:05
office and they don't know that
it was nicknames off the top of
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their head has to be written on
the done the well he can't
2:15:10
because this is a bank check. I
think it sir Rick Ross, Mark
2:15:15
Rosinski and Los Altos,
California 6969. Impressed by
2:15:21
the show Blue Moon bossman
Bozeman, Blue Moon Bozeman and
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Belgrade, Montana 67 Michael
Vivi errs and Sanborn 10 New
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Hampshire 6633. Kevin O'Brien in
Chicago, Illinois 606. Michael
2:15:36
Myers in Mandeville, Louisiana
5510 Nisa de douching
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Unknown: de deuced.
2:15:46
John C Dvorak: Dean Roker 5510
Armando Guerrera in Bandera
2:15:51
Texas, hey,
2:15:52
Adam Curry: you know these the
guy who when spelled inspired
2:15:56
mailman, Dan to donate on the
last show $500 And he used to be
2:16:02
my mail carrier in Austin. Guess
what? He's now moved 30 minutes
2:16:07
down the road to Carville. He's
following me he's stalking me.
2:16:11
John C Dvorak: He probably is
your handler.
2:16:12
Adam Curry: I hope so.
2:16:14
John C Dvorak: I want to Mondo
get donate 55 clays Henry in
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Rancho Palos Verdes, California
5242 Andrew Benz and Imperial
2:16:23
Missouri 5005. Trent Trueblood
in Scottsdale Arizona 5001. And
2:16:32
onward with the $50 donors name
and location if I have both
2:16:35
gadget freak in Western Springs,
Illinois Andrew gusik In Sir
2:16:40
Andrew in Greensboro, North
Carolina Tatiana Prince in
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Hollywood, Florida, Joe Oswald
and Lithia Florida, Nathan
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Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee
Stephen Schumacher in Xenia,
2:16:52
Ohio Peter odo in Ridge New
York. Alexandre ver, ver de HO
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and Gig Harbor, Washington Scott
lavender and gunnery, Texas,
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Leanne Shipley and Covington are
Covington, Washington, Daniel
2:17:07
Galloway in Marietta Georgia
Allen Fletcher in Rio Verde,
2:17:11
Arizona and last but not least,
surgery wing and Roth in Saugus
2:17:16
California want to thank these
people for making this show? A
2:17:19
reality show 1534
2:17:22
Adam Curry: We have to make
goods the first one from James
2:17:24
Nelson had to go back and listen
I think when I was looking for
2:17:28
for jingles for one of the
donors somehow he got skipped
2:17:30
there was no no to got lost he's
in the vortex. But now we've got
2:17:34
him a crystal on st he says I
saw out of the most recent
2:17:37
segment on JRE broken donation
and thought he would be
2:17:40
interested in exploring some of
Jay Dyer's content yes I shall
2:17:43
take a look at that. He says God
bless you John Adam. He wanted a
2:17:48
couple of jingles a freedom pew
pew mac and cheese and it's so
2:17:52
juicy a play that well played
now for mac and cheese mac and
2:18:00
cheese Iran and it's so juicy
there you go and to make good
2:18:04
for Dame Elizabeth from show
1499 Wow. Apologies for the way
2:18:09
overdue follow up note. Yes
indeed. Dame Elizabeth not sure
2:18:13
where time has gone I saw that
the lottery was at 33 million
2:18:17
took us assigned to dig up this
email and resend we didn't
2:18:20
receive our producer credits for
show 1499 amongst all of the
2:18:23
anniversary crazy yet we were
happy to be mentioned in the
2:18:25
knighting ceremony. Would love
the credit for the show in the
2:18:28
show notes no need for a mention
I should make the point of that.
2:18:32
Okay. No need for mentioned
other than that we really need
2:18:36
the house selling karma. We
haven't been able to sell
2:18:38
without it for almost a year and
there's nothing wrong with our
2:18:41
house. Just really bad timing.
Thank you for all you do, sir
2:18:44
and James Scott and Elizabeth
Vink and we thank you very much
2:18:48
and sorry that we missed you and
thank you for following up with
2:18:51
us here is your house selling
karma.
2:18:54
Unknown: You've got karma.
2:18:57
Adam Curry: And thank you all
very much for supporting us here
2:19:00
for show 1531 The no agenda show
we appreciate it. Our formula is
2:19:04
this. We go out. We get people
in the mouth
2:19:27
Leon Atkinson turns 50 Or turn
53 Yesterday Thomas biard buyers
2:19:33
turns 41 Today, Ronnie Chambliss
turned 60 today as well, Belinda
2:19:37
Shores is Sjors wishes her
husband marchers Happy birthday
2:19:41
he turned 57 tomorrow and
Bradley Fox celebrates on
2:19:45
February 22. Happy birthday from
everybody here the best podcast
2:19:49
in the universe.
2:19:59
Don't want Have you heard it
earlier? We have an upgrade for
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a day actually a fake about
Countess who now becomes a
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countess Countess Kim keep up
the nutty fluffers
2:20:11
congratulations that Countess
Thank you very much for
2:20:13
supporting the no agenda show
when you might as well hang out
2:20:16
here because we have quite the
intricate roundtable as we do
2:20:19
have that's funny our our back
office immediately considered
2:20:26
the dirty Jersey horror to be a
dame but no dirty conspiracy
2:20:30
it's under the dame category on
the spreadsheet no no we got a
2:20:33
night and a day. So we need one
of each for today John for the
2:20:37
swords storage so any two swords
you do we got a Damon Knight and
2:20:41
he's he he used
2:20:42
John C Dvorak: the duos or it's
got two sides you just flip it
2:20:45
over yourself. Hey, here it is.
2:20:47
Adam Curry: That's a nice one. I
haven't seen that one in a
2:20:50
while. Jessica static habits and
dirty Jersey horse stuff up here
2:20:56
on the podium. Both of you
supported the no agenda show in
2:20:58
the amount of $1,000 or more you
did the accounting yourself. We
2:21:01
trust you it is the honor system
and here we go. I pronounced the
2:21:04
Kate de dame delphinium Jessore
and Sir dirty Jersey horror of
2:21:09
the East Texas piney woods for
you we've got hookers and blow
2:21:12
or rent boys and shard Nate
grass fed beef from the local
2:21:15
ranch pure HCO fresh garden
vegetables and herbs and polish
2:21:18
it off with some heavenly hunk
chunks and Denver cut steak and
2:21:22
a fresh new england IPA from
forgotten road ales. Along with
2:21:26
that, we got some sparkling
cider and escorts ginger ale
2:21:29
Jerboas, breast milk and Pavel
and of course mutton and Mead.
2:21:31
And obviously our Dame is in
memoriam. So she will be
2:21:35
consuming all that she can in
heaven. We do appreciate the
2:21:40
support of course from family
and from dirty dirty Jersey
2:21:43
hoard directly go to no agenda
nation.com/rings Give us your
2:21:48
ring size or whatever you'd like
that to be for our Dame in
2:21:52
memoriam and we'll send that off
to wherever requested you can
2:21:55
enter your address there as
well. And thank you for
2:21:57
supporting a no agenda show for
15 years the best podcast in the
2:22:01
universe. No one
2:22:10
now a lot of meetups happening
today. Already over probably and
2:22:14
I think Roger roundy was hosting
the DC meetup at the Lincoln
2:22:17
Memorial. Maybe still underway
the local 76th annual fish town
2:22:22
friendly at the Philadelphia
Brewing Company. Same for
2:22:26
Columbus Ohio Smokehouse Brewing
Company to Central Ohio meet up
2:22:30
we have the northern Wake County
Dark Winter of death gathering
2:22:33
in Raleigh, North Carolina
Carolina Compass Rose brewery
2:22:36
say hi everybody wait for us.
The over the hill and through
2:22:40
the Bs in infinite works of
Scala Florida. Ocala Florida
2:22:45
sorry the COA Indy no agenda
tribal meet up and swap meet
2:22:50
three o'clock. These are all
pretty much over I guess
2:22:53
although Indianapolis those guys
hanging out for a while St.
2:22:55
Joseph brewery and public house.
We've got the NA Three Mile
2:22:58
Island evac zone meetup. I'm
expecting a lot of reports from
2:23:01
these people evergreen brewing.
We have the Mardi Gras grip and
2:23:05
grin in East Texas that is
kicking off in just about an
2:23:07
hour from now. skippers Pierre
Pierre coastal Cajun kitchen in
2:23:11
Gladewater. That is the dirty
Jersey horse locale I guess with
2:23:16
the hog story crew and finally
the rational drinkers club at
2:23:21
Fort Collins Colorado six
o'clock Mountain Time stodgy
2:23:24
Brewing Company and see we had
one report from the Netherlands.
2:23:28
The this was the first annual or
first monthly lightened amygdala
2:23:33
check meet up and it being in
the Netherlands people were
2:23:37
consuming all kinds of groovy
stuff. Okay, here. Sure Hendrik.
2:23:42
Well almost live from my
lightish date of birth, place of
2:23:48
birth, and he's already taken a
few hits from the north from the
2:23:56
fork. And now over to the next
one.
2:23:58
Unknown: Yeah.
2:24:00
Adam Curry: Good morning, Adam.
And John, do the next one in the
2:24:04
morning Sebastian here. Thanks
for the meetup
2:24:08
Unknown: another Sebastian
greetings from the node runners
2:24:10
stack sets
2:24:11
to take them to the rashie banks
peace to all slaves. And
2:24:15
remember, I'm not crazy. I'm an
aeroplane.
2:24:18
This is Brandon and I appreciate
all the let's go encouragement
2:24:21
tonight.
2:24:22
Hello Lucas from goose cased and
it's good to see and finally
2:24:27
I this is barren rock from
greater Lindbergh. And it's
2:24:29
really a great success to have
this lady meet up on the go.
2:24:32
Hello, I'm Nick. This is great
still.
2:24:40
Adam Curry: Yes, yes. You want
to say something drunk. Or as we
2:24:47
would say Strunk stoned and
drunk are very good people very
2:24:51
light and it's a university
town. Can you tell? Those are
2:24:55
the meetups? That's the meetup
important that you heard the
2:24:57
meetups earlier. There's a lot
of meetups going on. If you want
2:25:00
to be part of the community,
you're listening to the show you
2:25:03
already are. But believe me, you
go to one of these meetups, you
2:25:06
think you're weird. Everybody's
weird. No one will be like, you
2:25:09
know, every single person is
different, but somehow we all
2:25:12
fit together. These meetups are
good. They're protection because
2:25:16
connection is protection. And
you can find them at no agenda.
2:25:20
meetups.com If you can't find
one near you start one yourself.
2:25:23
It's easy at a party with dicen
de BombBomb you'd be triggered
2:25:42
is like, I got the ISOs. I know
one of mine is dynamite. And one
2:25:48
of them has to hit one of them.
I would hope. Do you have any? I
2:25:52
have to alright. What can you
hear yours? First?
2:25:55
John C Dvorak: I have fraud.
2:25:57
Unknown: fraudulent claims of
fraud.
2:26:01
Adam Curry: Okay, classic. And
tool, a tool for lazy preachers.
2:26:09
Let's see. If you'd like one of
mine.
2:26:11
Unknown: I'm obsessed with the
show. Mm.
2:26:14
Adam Curry: Not bad. Not bad. Or
2:26:16
Unknown: sensational
sensational. Or
2:26:26
John C Dvorak: that's got to be
my favorite. Might be I can
2:26:29
understand what he said. That's
2:26:30
Adam Curry: the opener of
Houston. True doe. That's how
2:26:33
they announced just all of that
one. I like
2:26:38
John C Dvorak: I don't care for
that one. I like the shoe. Both
2:26:41
of them in the second one I
think is the is the winner.
2:26:45
Unknown: Sensational.
Sensational. That one?
2:26:49
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Okay,
2:26:50
Adam Curry: I'll take it. So
good. It's all good people. So
2:26:54
good. Oh, let me see. There was
so before we
2:26:58
John C Dvorak: go into anything
serious. Oh, please. I'm behind
2:27:02
in my tick tock catches. We need
a jingle for this. So I got a
2:27:07
tic toc lady here, bitch. She's
beside herself not knowing quite
2:27:11
what to do. And this is what she
people like this, I guess obsess
2:27:15
all day about things like this?
Because? I don't know. I don't
2:27:20
know. I have no idea why anyone
was obsessed so much that
2:27:24
they're gonna put it out there
for when a tick tock to listen
2:27:26
to it. This is tick tock, the
gendered lady.
2:27:29
Unknown: So I was just picking
up my vehicle from an oil
2:27:31
change. And the person came out
of the garage and said, What can
2:27:33
I do for you, young lady? And I
know that this was intended to
2:27:37
be a greeting of respect and
kindness or politeness, maybe.
2:27:41
But I had this immediate like,
okay, young, maybe
2:27:44
comparatively, I'll take it. But
I was like, lady, what do I do
2:27:47
it that like, it's so
complicated because I know this
2:27:50
person only intended kindness,
there was a smile on their face.
2:27:54
Like I knew that they weren't
trying to like patronize me or
2:27:57
gender me, but I felt so
gendered and so inappropriately
2:28:01
gendered. And I don't know what
to do with that, like, what do
2:28:03
you do with that when someone
like has the best of intentions,
2:28:06
and I don't really want to spend
all of my spoons trying to
2:28:09
educate someone at the Costco
car center.
2:28:13
Adam Curry: Limit. So she was
misgendered. No, she was just
2:28:17
gendered. She was gendered. She
didn't want to be gendered at
2:28:20
all. Right? Oh, this is one of
these. These. These are those
2:28:24
women. I've learned that from
you. This is one of those women.
2:28:29
Who, who when you if you hold
the door open like well, I could
2:28:32
John C Dvorak: do that nice now.
Yeah, exactly. Same, same
2:28:35
person. And
2:28:37
Adam Curry: sounds like that to
that I can do myself, thank out.
2:28:40
I'm like that she's a
sweetheart. Here in the south.
2:28:44
We have right here in the south,
we hold the door open for the
2:28:48
dames for a prime
2:28:50
John C Dvorak: mover who goes to
cheer for him open the door in
2:28:52
the car. If
2:28:54
Adam Curry: a woman stands up at
the table, I stand up. If she
2:28:56
comes back, I stand up. And this
lady would read my Creek. I'm
2:29:03
nothing but a creep. That was
very lighthearted. Thank you for
2:29:06
catching us up on the latest nut
job, Marie. I did want to
2:29:11
mention, and now none of these
are playable. But I put them up
2:29:15
put them in the show notes.
There's now two, two Turkish
2:29:18
politicians. The most recent one
is the head of the Ministry of
2:29:24
Interior interior of Turkey
after the earthquake earthquake,
2:29:30
and this is what the head of the
ministry said I have the
2:29:33
translation. There are no
coincidences. And we told the
2:29:36
American ambassador that a week
ago we did not agree with the
2:29:40
increase in the number of NATO
members and a week later we had
2:29:43
a catastrophic earthquake. We
know who did it and how get your
2:29:46
dirty paws off Turkey. We will
draw our own conclusions. And
2:29:51
with that, several mentions of
and this I think is true that
2:29:56
the turkey earthquake does not
appear to have an epicenter
2:30:02
Which is interesting.
2:30:05
John C Dvorak: Well, even if it
had an earthquake machine as
2:30:08
your you will contend, yes.
Doesn't an earthquake have an
2:30:11
epicenter like the one in Japan
had a very distinctive Epicenter
2:30:14
where the machine was?
2:30:16
Adam Curry: Right? No. The
machine know that it was a bomb
2:30:21
that went off off the coast to
start the tsunami. We all know
2:30:25
that that wasn't the earthquake
machine. That was an underwater
2:30:28
explosion. I'm just trying to
change history.
2:30:35
John C Dvorak: Should you try to
change your own history? Yes.
2:30:39
Was a dairy a was a Darren Yes,
the center there was the
2:30:42
earthquake.
2:30:44
Adam Curry: Yes, that's that's
why it's weird that this one
2:30:46
didn't have an epicenter, but
also ripped all like a huge, a
2:30:51
huge tear in the earth. And this
is what the politicians are
2:30:56
saying. It's not me anymore. I'm
not alone. They're saying it.
2:31:03
Meanwhile, what you didn't hear
in the region because it also
2:31:07
had Syria although it was
northwestern Syria. We seem to
2:31:11
be killing people all over the
place. A leader of
2:31:13
Unknown: the ISIS terrorist
network in Syria is dead. But at
2:31:17
the price of four wounded
Americans
2:31:20
an explosion during the raid
also resulted in four US troops
2:31:25
and one of the working dogs
suffering some some injuries.
2:31:29
US Special Operations Forces
went in by helicopter and
2:31:32
surrounded a nondescript house
in northeastern Syria. But as
2:31:36
they closed in on their target,
an explosion either a suicide
2:31:40
vest or a hand grenade went off,
2:31:43
that troops and working dog are
in stable condition. It is a
2:31:46
constant
2:31:47
threat. In 2019 When commandos
raided the Syrian compound of
2:31:52
ISIS leader, Abu Bakr al
Baghdadi, backing up himself and
2:31:56
three children to avoid capture.
Last year YB Rahim al Hashimi al
2:32:01
Quraishi, another leader of ISIS
set off a booby trap that level
2:32:06
the third floor of his house,
killing himself, his wife and
2:32:09
two children. This time the
target was Hamza el hum Z. And
2:32:14
this time he apparently waited
for the Americans to get close
2:32:17
enough he
2:32:18
was overseeing the group's
deadly terrorist network in
2:32:20
eastern Syria before he was
killed in the raid.
2:32:22
There are about 900 American
troops in Syria, working with
2:32:26
local Syrian forces to keep the
ISIS terrorist network from
2:32:29
staging a comeback. It's a
deadly game of hide and seek.
2:32:34
But no American troops were
killed or wounded in all of last
2:32:38
year.
2:32:40
Adam Curry: This is not in the
news. It's really weird that we
2:32:46
just just killing people. And
what is the threat there? What
2:32:50
it why why are we doing this?
Any ideas? Bueller?
2:32:55
John C Dvorak: I don't even know
that story.
2:32:57
Adam Curry: No, but this is
brand new. This just came out.
2:32:59
But that's my point is this is
kind of nuts. We're just killing
2:33:01
people everywhere.
2:33:03
John C Dvorak: So I've got two
epicenters. For the first two
2:33:06
Turkish earthquakes.
2:33:08
Adam Curry: Yes, there was two.
The second one was apparently
2:33:10
even worse.
2:33:11
John C Dvorak: Well, the first
one was was in Giza and typ was
2:33:15
the epicenter and the second one
was in scrolled it off but it
2:33:23
didn't second one has a definite
center to this bullcrap there is
2:33:26
no epicenter. I'm just
2:33:27
Adam Curry: telling you what the
politicians are saying.
2:33:29
John C Dvorak: Well those guys
are they hate us.
2:33:32
Adam Curry: Well, yeah with good
reason. We've been doing it
2:33:37
everywhere around the world.
Take Fukushima you just said to
2:33:40
yourself that
2:33:41
John C Dvorak: you know they
should take I have a Turkish
2:33:42
clip to show you how many
buildings were destroyed. They
2:33:44
should take aim at their own
politicians who didn't enforce
2:33:47
building codes which were I
guess since they have so many
2:33:51
earthquakes there see what
there's an earthquake machine or
2:33:53
not. They do have quite a lot.
2:33:56
Adam Curry: If you look at the
list, but this is the biggest
2:33:58
wasn't up to 45,000 Dead they
estimate
2:34:01
Unknown: but listen to this
clip. Turkey's interior minister
2:34:04
said today that over 80,000
buildings and his name is the
2:34:08
same guy. The same the same guy
Turkey's interior minister said
2:34:12
today that over 80,000 buildings
in his nation were either
2:34:16
destroyed or have become
uninhabitable after last week's
2:34:19
quake. The situation across the
border in Syria is dire for the
2:34:24
millions left homeless, so many
of whom already suffered greatly
2:34:27
through nearly 12 years of war,
supplying shelter and aid is a
2:34:32
prime focus there now. But
remarkably, people are still
2:34:35
being pulled from the rubble
after a week and a half. That is
2:34:39
remarkable
2:34:40
John C Dvorak: especially always
every time to set my there's
2:34:43
always some guidance there a
month. Yeah, what we need living
2:34:47
on his fingernails and these are
horrible.
2:34:50
Adam Curry: What we need is we
need a rescue of a child you
2:34:52
know, the one that like that's
that's been trapped for for
2:34:56
weeks and that's what the
international because the press
2:34:59
is not aren't really doing much
with a story. That's also weird.
2:35:03
I mean, it's such a, the scale
of the devastation is outside of
2:35:06
the earthquake machine stuff.
But the scale of the of the
2:35:09
devastation is is almost
unimaginable. But there's just
2:35:14
nothing.
2:35:14
John C Dvorak: No, I do
satellite pictures and some of
2:35:17
the other photos of the cracks
are actually like, because they
2:35:22
go right through a highways.
Yeah. And they divide the
2:35:25
highway by you know, it's not
like 100 yards, but it's like
2:35:29
they're just it's not even in
the same county. It was high
2:35:32
weekends is a big hole in the
earth and the other highway is
2:35:34
way over there somewhere. It's
quite, quite amazing.
2:35:38
Adam Curry: Let's stay in. Well,
not quite the region, but in
2:35:41
sandy areas. The new trifecta is
the new triple threat is Russia,
2:35:48
China, Iran. And looks like
looks like we're up to our
2:35:53
tricks in Iran. De France. 24
had this, this this lady on. And
2:36:00
she, she I think she works she
works for a university, but she
2:36:05
she's very distinct kind of
look. You know, like French with
2:36:10
the big fro hair just, you know,
very distinct. I would say she
2:36:15
might even be a spook but just
listen to this report as as we
2:36:18
move into familiar territory to
our spooks in Iran.
2:36:22
Unknown: I'm joined now on set
by Chara maca Remi, from the
2:36:26
University of Montreal. Thank
you for joining us here today.
2:36:30
You are an expert in Iran, and
notably, a wrote the book about
2:36:35
the 1979 Iranian Revolution.
spoke. I'd like to ask you,
2:36:41
first of all, losing its
momentum a little bit. We've
2:36:46
heard less about it, certainly
outside Iran in recent weeks.
2:36:51
It's it entered another phase
actually what we heard about
2:36:55
were the insurrection all the
insurrections of fall 22. So it
2:37:00
was the first stage and it was
very vivid in the streets. And
2:37:05
it was breaking a lot of red
lines, a lot of political
2:37:08
boundaries that were set for the
last 40 years. That was very
2:37:12
impressive. And what we see now
is an a political organization
2:37:17
of the Iranian society in order
to kind of carry on another
2:37:22
phase of that confrontation with
the state with political
2:37:26
demands. So we have seen leader,
opposition leader like green
2:37:30
movement leader, Muse and
Mousavi, who's in house arrest
2:37:35
for 13 years now. And he has
written a letter saying that no
2:37:42
change is possible in Iran
within the frame of the
2:37:45
theocracy. So he demands a
regime change as well. And this
2:37:49
is the first time you know, this
is very new, because for the
2:37:51
last 13 years, he hasn't done
that. And 400 political figures
2:37:56
and civil society figures in
Iran have signed a letter of
2:38:01
support to his letter. And we
have also two days ago 20 unions
2:38:07
and organization within Iran who
have signed a common letter, so
2:38:10
they have come to a common
demand, asking for change, you
2:38:14
know, for separation of church
and the state for equal pay for
2:38:19
women and men. So we're very
much into the woman life with a
2:38:22
movement yet, for the release
and conditional release of all
2:38:26
political prisoners. Many
political prisoners have been
2:38:28
released, and when they were
released a woman political
2:38:31
prisoner release, they
photographed themselves outside
2:38:34
of the prison without the hijab.
So it shows that we are released
2:38:37
but we are not going to, you
know, stand aside, we are
2:38:40
pursuing the fight. So I think
that it's changing forms.
2:38:45
Adam Curry: Regime Change bound
deck, looks like Oh, my
2:38:48
John C Dvorak: DeSantis clip was
bad. No, this was no this.
2:38:52
Adam Curry: Your DeSantis clip
really sucked. This at least
2:38:54
shows this this is regime change
2:38:57
John C Dvorak: is some woman
that lives in Montreal, she
2:38:59
doesn't know what's going on.
She's a spook for Canada.
2:39:02
Adam Curry: Regime change on
deck.
2:39:05
John C Dvorak: Okay, I'm saying
no. Okay, I think this was just
2:39:11
another test like the Green
Revolution or wherever that one
2:39:14
purple whatever remember the
color that they tried what some
2:39:18
during the Obama administration
This is another another shot at
2:39:21
it and already, yes, yeah. But
it's over. Just
2:39:25
Adam Curry: know that. No, she
said it's the next phase. Well,
2:39:30
John C Dvorak: you want to put,
you gotta you gotta dead pull
2:39:32
money when?
2:39:34
Adam Curry: After they do their
nuclear test.
2:39:37
John C Dvorak: Oh, if they do a
new killer test that's coming
2:39:40
Adam Curry: up. They're not
going to do it. Okay.
2:39:44
John C Dvorak: They do that
that's a huge mistake.
2:39:47
Adam Curry: I'm going to stay in
the sandy areas. This is part of
2:39:51
the great reset. This could be
your country.
2:39:54
Unknown: They read bank burns,
several dozen people in Lebanon
2:39:57
attacked banks on Thursday and
blocked roads. They're
2:40:00
protesting against the informal
restrictions on cash withdrawals
2:40:04
in place for your financial
crisis that prevent Lebanese
2:40:07
from getting their hands on
their own savings. The crisis
2:40:10
has slashed the value of the
Lebanese pound by more than 98%
2:40:14
since 2018. protester Romic on
door says everyone should be up
2:40:18
in arms
2:40:22
What's you Lebanese people
waiting for to go down and take
2:40:24
your rights from this mafia of
thieves that's ruling out
2:40:28
Armenian measure, man. Where are
the human rights? There is no
2:40:31
electricity, no water, nothing
at all in this country. Don't
2:40:35
they feel us while they're
sitting in their palaces? They
2:40:37
have no feelings for the people
while they see us a sheep. We
2:40:41
won't stay silent about our
life's worth.
2:40:45
At least six banks were targeted
as the currency hit a new record
2:40:49
low value on Thursday. That's
according to depositors outcry,
2:40:53
a lobby representing people with
money stuck in the banks,
2:40:56
depositors lacking cash to pay
for basics. Food bills, even
2:41:01
health care are seeking access
to their funds through lawsuits.
2:41:06
Or sometimes by force people
trying to take out their own
2:41:09
money have staged holdups.
pounders changing hands at
2:41:15
around 80,000 pounds to the
dollar on Thursday, from 70,000
2:41:20
pounds just two days earlier.
2:41:22
Adam Curry: Do you value their
money by 98%?
2:41:24
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so if you
have $100,000 in the bank, it's
2:41:27
worth $2,000.
2:41:30
Adam Curry: You know, there's a
guy named good. There's a guy
2:41:32
named saifuddien A moose who
moved from Lebanon, he's now in
2:41:36
Austin. And and he he says he
was so lucky, because he put
2:41:42
most of his money into Bitcoin.
I mean, in this case, Bitcoin
2:41:46
would have fixed that. Which I
think and which I think is
2:41:52
pretty brilliant.
2:41:54
John C Dvorak: He could have put
it in American treasuries, too,
2:41:57
that would have saved his ass.
2:41:59
Adam Curry: Well, depends how
long you had the Bitcoin
2:42:01
American treasuries? Probably.
2:42:03
John C Dvorak: What if you
bought the Bitcoin at 60,000?
2:42:06
You still
2:42:06
Adam Curry: better better still
have 30,000 leftover better than
2:42:11
2000? Yeah, I
2:42:13
John C Dvorak: was Anything's
better than 2000. But American
2:42:15
treasuries would have always had
made some money on the deal.
2:42:18
Adam Curry: Okay, well, I'm sure
that's what everyone wanted to
2:42:21
do. I love people burning down
the bank thinking their money's
2:42:26
actually in there. That's the
funniest part. Yeah, we're
2:42:29
trying to hold
2:42:29
John C Dvorak: it out this old
wives tale and money's in the
2:42:31
bank.
2:42:32
Adam Curry: Did you know that
the US banks ever since COVID,
2:42:36
they don't have to have any they
don't have to have 10% reserves.
2:42:39
There's zero reserve policy.
Still, they never released that.
2:42:44
It's kind of scary.
2:42:46
John C Dvorak: But you can
always get your money out of his
2:42:47
local banks. I know it
mechanics. I've seen somebody
2:42:49
trying to get their money out.
But they told me he had to fill
2:42:52
out some paperwork. Yeah, more
than more than then you had to
2:42:54
wait 24 hours so they deliver
the money. Why there's no money
2:42:58
there.
2:43:00
Adam Curry: I know this is the
worst. And we have we have a
2:43:04
local bank here. Community Bank,
which is great. And that's where
2:43:09
we keep our money. But all their
services are outsourced to some
2:43:13
no tech firm. It's kind of
wonder, kind of wonder how it
2:43:19
all works.
2:43:20
John C Dvorak: Doesn't this
microservices architecture taken
2:43:23
to an extreme? Yeah,
2:43:25
Adam Curry: yeah, if you if you
fuck up sue you screw up your
2:43:27
password. Now. You can't talk to
him during the weekend.
2:43:32
John C Dvorak: No, you can't do
this whole this was a nightmare.
2:43:35
Adam Curry: It is. It is. So
there was big print of a big
2:43:41
deal about this Israeli firm.
That apparently is
2:43:46
disinformation for hire for
elections. You hear this story?
2:43:51
John C Dvorak: I like it.
2:43:52
Unknown: Next interference in
over 30 elections worldwide. An
2:43:55
investigation by the Paris based
group of journalists called the
2:43:59
forbidden stories has shone a
spotlight on Team horror gay,
2:44:03
and the 50 year old Israeli
driving these nefarious
2:44:05
activities more recently joins
us in the studio. He's part of
2:44:08
the team of the business
stories. Laura, thank you very
2:44:10
much for being with us. Who is
the man who's allegedly behind
2:44:13
all of this tell us about him.
2:44:15
So officially, he only has a
nickname Jorge. And he made a
2:44:22
lot of before during all the
investigation to hide his real
2:44:25
name. But at the end of the of
the investigation after with
2:44:28
with the work of 100 reporters,
we we we finally find out who
2:44:33
was the guy and his name is Al
Anon. And Turunen is is a former
2:44:39
Israeli soldier who is leading
that he's very secret cell unit
2:44:47
in charge of producing this
information for hire services.
2:44:51
So it's, it's a business that is
kind of expensive. When the
2:44:55
people from our team from
hydrophones and the IRS were
2:44:59
inferior Writing in an
undercover investigation this
2:45:03
this company, he was asking them
to pay 6 million euros to
2:45:08
influence an election in Africa
6
2:45:11
million who's paying that kind
of money then where it's
2:45:14
the kind of people who might
have 6 million to pay for that
2:45:18
might be state actors or be
private companies as well. It
2:45:24
depends you can, there is a
different level of services that
2:45:29
can they can provide you then
during the infiltration, they
2:45:32
were able to show how, for
instance, in Kenya, they were
2:45:36
able to hack the telegram
account of three advisors of the
2:45:43
current president. And in real
life, they were doing that. So
2:45:48
it's what is very concerning
with our findings in this
2:45:52
investigation is how to kind of
industry met each other the
2:45:56
industry with the cyber
civilians on one hand, and on
2:45:59
the other hand, the industry of
the influence.
2:46:02
Adam Curry: And what I find most
interesting about this story, is
2:46:04
this group of journalists, the
forbidden stories group, a Paris
2:46:12
based nonprofit that coordinates
investigations with 150
2:46:15
reporters, more than 60 news
organizations worldwide,
2:46:19
including the National The
Washington Post, The Guardian,
2:46:22
and lamanda I don't know if what
do you think that is this?
2:46:28
John C Dvorak: Well, what
bothers me is the Washington
2:46:30
Post, yes. And the Guardian,
Guardian, off the bat right off
2:46:35
the bat right off the top. And
Lemond I think is a left leaning
2:46:39
operation too. So I'm not
impressed by that. I don't like
2:46:43
this. This is not this partisan
approach to news covering. Yeah,
2:46:49
Adam Curry: we're on to the
shard that's the guy Oh, he's an
2:46:51
award winning investigative
journalist, documentary
2:46:53
filmmaker, founder forbidden
stories. Anyway, today, they did
2:46:58
a whole like a kind of almost
like a Project Veritas
2:47:01
undercover video. I wonder good.
I gotta wonder if that guy
2:47:07
actually did anything. Or if
this was more sales job for him.
2:47:09
Clearly, he's not being arrested
or anything. He's not being perp
2:47:12
walked anywhere. So how, how
good was it? You know what I
2:47:18
mean? Yeah. Do you have anything
on Ohio because everyone's all
2:47:24
John C Dvorak: Ohio because I
didn't see anything that was
2:47:26
new.
2:47:27
Adam Curry: The main thing I
need to discuss with you is this
2:47:29
Ohio Governor Mike DeWine.
2:47:31
John C Dvorak: Yeah, to hate
him.
2:47:32
Adam Curry: Tell me that guy
isn't a dead ringer for George
2:47:35
Burns.
2:47:38
John C Dvorak: George Burns.
2:47:39
Adam Curry: Yeah. The comedian.
2:47:40
John C Dvorak: I don't see the I
didn't see the George Burns had
2:47:42
to look at his picture. Go to
the wiki PD. has had huge ears.
2:47:47
It's always funny smile on his
face. Look at the wine. Look
2:47:50
into wine. I'm gonna look I'm
gonna look at the wine and see
2:47:52
if there's
2:47:52
Adam Curry: a young George bird.
He's got pretty big ears. He got
2:47:54
some saucers. There.
2:47:58
John C Dvorak: Is a Mike DeWine.
Mike, Mike, Mike D wine.
2:48:02
Adam Curry: I mean, he looks he
looks more like George Burns in
2:48:04
the in the videos.
2:48:07
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, I see
it. Okay. So is it a straight
2:48:10
shot that makes it look a versus
sideview? No. Is it just a
2:48:15
straight up shot? With his
smiling? It looks like George
2:48:19
Burns.
2:48:21
Adam Curry: So what I love most
about and we got a lot of boots
2:48:24
on the ground, people nearby
people saying mom seems like
2:48:27
there's a lot of stuff being
exaggerated. Certainly a lot of
2:48:30
people say, oh, yeah, I got
dead. Everything around here did
2:48:34
not really a lot of evidence.
2:48:35
John C Dvorak: So it's not a lot
of coverage to begin with. So
2:48:38
I'm sure the only exaggerated
subsequently time where you can
2:48:41
get any news.
2:48:43
Adam Curry: What I find kind of
this whole thing was, as far as
2:48:47
I'm concerned was a political
football from the get go. And
2:48:51
you know, now, Trump is like,
I'm gonna go see the people over
2:48:55
there, which is the political
move he's running for probably.
2:48:57
Yeah,
2:48:57
John C Dvorak: I think it's
foolish. I think it's dumb. I
2:48:59
think. I agree. I think that's
like the anchors of NBC, CBS and
2:49:04
you know, go into some place.
What do they need to be there
2:49:07
for? They're just getting in the
way. Yeah. And then we had this
2:49:11
little situation with Tucker. So
there's something going on in
2:49:15
one of the Kentucky churches are
assumed.
2:49:18
Adam Curry: Hold on, why don't
just stay with Ohio for a
2:49:20
second? Yes. Running right by
right by it. I have a couple
2:49:25
things to discuss. Okay. Just
want to give you all the
2:49:28
conspiracy theories. This is a
town of 4700 people. So it turns
2:49:34
out that perhaps they wanted to
put a high speed rail through
2:49:38
this very town. That's one it's
all Trump's fault, according to
2:49:42
Buddha judge, so there's always
Trump's there's your political
2:49:46
edge. The people of East
Palestinian and why is it
2:49:49
Palestinian and not Palestine?
Even though you spell it the
2:49:52
same way?
2:49:53
John C Dvorak: This way, they
pronounced it there's like
2:49:55
there's a couple of towns around
here. They're pronounced not
2:49:57
like they're written. Okay?
2:49:58
Adam Curry: It's like Rodeo
Drive. because you're gonna get
2:50:01
exam there'll be Rodeo Drive.
Okay. Looks like the people of
2:50:06
East Palo Steen were put into a
medical test. A What do you call
2:50:14
it? The rolling out medical
device sensors. And they were
2:50:20
the test market. It's always
good one. See if you see if you
2:50:26
ingested something or if you
become sick somehow, yeah, the
2:50:29
my ID medical service. There you
go. I liked the Amtrak 2035 map
2:50:36
the best because that that shows
Amtrak with high speed rail
2:50:40
going straight through this
town. So of course, we had to
2:50:44
blow it all up. And then but in
general, I sent you an article.
2:50:49
I know you don't like where it
came from. But it seems like the
2:50:53
actual contamination of the
environment may that may be a
2:50:56
bit overblown, because that
that's the part that I'm just
2:51:00
questioning. It's not great to
have this happen. But it does
2:51:03
happen a lot with these types of
all kinds of chemicals. The year
2:51:06
the chemical experts. So what is
your what is your view on the
2:51:09
vinyl chloride? How much is it
parts per million is in there?
2:51:13
What do you think is the actual
risk to the residence?
2:51:17
John C Dvorak: I wouldn't live
there with that big mushroom
2:51:19
cloud and all that vinyl
chloride dust stuff is nasty. So
2:51:24
those guys can downplay that if
they want, but just look at it.
2:51:28
Just look at it. What a mess is
that?
2:51:30
Adam Curry: Is that clouds still
there?
2:51:32
John C Dvorak: Now the clouds
gone. But the messes leftovers
2:51:34
ridiculous. And, and it just had
to be a lot. They put it in a
2:51:37
bunch of ditches and lit it off.
It was seeping into the ground.
2:51:40
It's terrible. I wouldn't
downplay that mess by anybody
2:51:46
because Oh, it's bullshit. It's
only vinyl chloride. So what is
2:51:50
not in? I'm not listening to
that. Okay.
2:51:53
Adam Curry: Which is why I asked
you. So I think it's just at
2:51:57
this point, just a political
football. No one really cares
2:52:01
about the people. That's
obvious. And the reason why no
2:52:04
one sprang into action is
because it happens three times a
2:52:06
day. This stuff happens all the
time. We do have a night with
2:52:12
tanks of vinyl chloride, it
doesn't know but derailments
2:52:15
happen, and yeah, there's over
1000 a year. So the one one
2:52:19
email from boots on the ground
from one of our producers, who
2:52:23
has standing he says you know,
all mainline tracks have hotbox
2:52:26
detectors HDDs in track safety
device to checks X axle wheel
2:52:32
temperatures, says I've never
been to Ohio, but I did check
2:52:36
everything and it seems like
they have a HBD about 20 miles
2:52:40
from the crash site near Salem,
Ohio. The train should have had
2:52:44
his temperature checked and
received a hot wheel alarm and
2:52:47
what he's questioning is kind of
where we started with it. This
2:52:50
seems to be just a railroad
failure. You know, not enough
2:52:54
people on these trains actually
want to do away with cabooses
2:52:57
you've been following this they
want to get rid of cabooses
2:53:00
John C Dvorak: gonna get rid of
nearly I haven't seen a caboose
2:53:02
in 25 years and I'm right by a
rail
2:53:05
Adam Curry: than what I owned
the wires I'm gonna be more than
2:53:07
making a big deal of that it's
all political everything. And
2:53:12
then all of these cars have
Popoff valves. And our expert
2:53:17
boots on the ground says yeah,
vinyl chloride is deadly. I said
2:53:21
but the five different choices
they could have made on how to
2:53:25
handle this. They kind of took
the worst one the one you want
2:53:28
to try first is try and keep the
keep the tanks cool and make and
2:53:33
hope that the pop off valves
work because then they wouldn't
2:53:36
have had to blow it up. So the
blowing up thing is, is kind of
2:53:40
the red flag here.
2:53:42
John C Dvorak: Well, we had to
clip from the last show of the
2:53:45
hazmat guy saying that they were
keeping that they were keeping
2:53:48
him cool with the hoses and they
just kept doing that and they
2:53:53
did do that and then they pulled
the hoses off to blown up
2:53:57
Adam Curry: so here's a quick
boots on the ground. I live five
2:54:00
miles out from ground zero just
want to give you boots on the
2:54:02
ground what's happening here.
Nothing accurate has come out
2:54:05
since since it since it started
Norfolk got their train track
2:54:11
fixed left town claiming threats
on life on their life was made
2:54:15
that's why they didn't show up
for the town hall. Unofficially
2:54:17
The reason the emergency order
was lifted before testing was
2:54:20
that the trains couldn't pass
through town well there was a
2:54:22
state of emergency still effect
from what I see there isn't much
2:54:26
as much depth as reported. For
one the chickens the dead
2:54:29
chickens are about 15 miles away
from the crash while mine in the
2:54:33
same path five miles away or
happy as can be and if you saw
2:54:37
how scratched up the woman
making the claim was you believe
2:54:39
the local law that she is
definitely shocked though that
2:54:42
she definitely chalked to those
14 Chalk was shocking the
2:54:46
chickens
2:54:47
Unknown: no joke.
2:54:48
Adam Curry: No it says chocked
no dogs no dogs have died as of
2:54:52
yet no caps and there should be
in there should be due to a very
2:54:56
bad feral cat issue in town
possibly three cage Fox says the
2:55:00
fish were minnows, the stream
that came from 1015 foot wide,
2:55:04
never deeper. So he's kind of
downplaying all the disaster.
2:55:07
But yeah, I'm sure producer Joe,
you know, like you doesn't
2:55:12
really want to be in that
situation. And everything else.
2:55:15
I mean, this this conspiracy
theories about the 5 million
2:55:19
gallons of water a day that the
Intel fab apparently nearby
2:55:23
needs. Have you heard of this? I
mean, this
2:55:27
John C Dvorak: is no, this is
completely news to me.
2:55:29
Adam Curry: Yeah. So this, you
know that they need to bypass
2:55:33
the Ohio River and cut these
people off. I guess we'll just
2:55:36
see what plays out. There's
enough conspiracy theories. But
2:55:40
to me, everything here now is
just political. And Trump, is
2:55:43
it? I agree. I think he's making
a bad move. Bad move going
2:55:46
there. You should have just gone
there. Just popped up that would
2:55:50
have made sense. Pre announcing
it wrong. Right. Great.
2:55:54
John C Dvorak: No, I think I
think if he had just showed up
2:55:56
like a couple of days ago, yeah.
Just showed up and with a team
2:56:01
of investigators saying, you
know, nobody seems to be doing
2:56:04
this properly. I've got some my
own people, and then left. Yeah,
2:56:08
I think that we've been kind of
cool, but no. Anyway, bye bye.
2:56:13
He's not he's losing it.
2:56:16
Adam Curry: I wish there was
some really good information.
2:56:18
There really isn't? Really isn't
yet, but a lot of a lot of talk,
2:56:23
you know, just a lot of talk,
which is probably why you and I
2:56:26
just, there's not a lot to
deconstruct. There's no media
2:56:30
really the media attention. And
whenever Erin Brockovich shows
2:56:33
up, I'm always suspicious.
2:56:35
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that you
mentioned that and I agree with
2:56:37
that doesn't mean somebody like
that shows up. I'd get
2:56:40
suspicious too. Now, I only have
maybe one clip left. Okay, let's
2:56:44
do that. But I had to do this a
number of them. I mean, I could
2:56:48
do the NFL Vax news, which I
thought was interesting, but I'm
2:56:51
not completely in on it. Oakland
has a ransomware attack going
2:56:55
on, which is funny is still
continuing to city.
2:56:57
Adam Curry: City of Oakland.
2:56:59
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Okay. All
right. But it's it's not that
2:57:02
entertaining. I think that I
think the I also have some
2:57:05
follow up on that chatbot stuff,
which I didn't realize that that
2:57:09
that rousse guy you were talking
about Kevin Roose? Yeah. Oh my
2:57:13
god. Well, how lame can you get
I told you when I know I heard
2:57:17
it. And then I heard this other
report. And I said, Wait, I
2:57:19
mean, you could have pounded
that home harder. Knew Oh, yeah,
2:57:24
here we go. Here's a double of
the new overdose drug found in
2:57:28
San Francisco. Just listen to
these numbers.
2:57:30
Adam Curry: Uplifting way to
leave the show
2:57:32
Unknown: in San Francisco.
Authorities say traces of a
2:57:34
deadly drug called xylazine as
being found in the bodies of
2:57:38
people who died from an
overdose. The street name for
2:57:41
the drug is tranq. It's an
animal tranquilizer being added
2:57:45
to illicit street opioids,
mainly fentanyl. The
2:57:48
tranquilizer is known to cause
severe skin lesions. It can
2:57:51
leave users with open wounds
lead to infections and even
2:57:55
amputations. trace amounts of it
were found in four out of 145
2:58:00
bodies tested between December 1
of last year and the middle of
2:58:04
last month. All of the overdoses
involve fentanyl. San Francisco
2:58:09
Health officials say it's the
first time the drug has been
2:58:11
identified and overdose deaths
in the city.
2:58:15
John C Dvorak: Wow. So 140 Plus
deaths in 90 days is what he
2:58:20
described. He didn't put the
second half of that in there. So
2:58:22
that's I'm a dead there's not 40
dead bodies laying around San
2:58:26
Francisco just constantly
because of this fentanyl
2:58:30
situation. They don't care. They
don't do anything about the
2:58:34
about Fentanyl crisis in the
city free needles. It's pathetic
2:58:39
now we got this. I think they're
trying to kill the homeless.
2:58:42
Adam Curry: Well, on that tip, I
had this in the show notes for
2:58:45
last show middle X. You've not
heard of this middle x. This is
2:58:50
now being it's according to exit
International. Oh, yeah. There's
2:58:56
a group called Exit
International which is basically
2:59:00
about killing yourself.
Euthanasia. And so they've this
2:59:07
is quite big story in the
Netherlands. And they have they
2:59:11
were eyewitnesses to people
committing euthanasia with
2:59:15
middle X. Which is that now that
won't publish what it is. But
2:59:21
they're saying In fact, there's
a Wikipedia page here. Mid D E.
2:59:26
L. It's it's something that
comes from the chemical
2:59:31
industry. And people are using
it to kill themselves. And it's
2:59:37
but no one knows exactly what it
is the newspapers are trying to
2:59:41
figure it out or that or they're
not publishing it because they
2:59:43
don't want more people to use
it. This is and it's and even
2:59:48
though middle X is Dutch because
it means middle means a compound
2:59:53
I guess or the something yeah
compound. They're not translated
2:59:57
just calling it middle X. And
apparently you you're all your
3:00:03
cells just stop accepting oxygen
and you just shut down and die.
3:00:09
Yeah. And seems like there's a
promotion of this going on.
3:00:15
John C Dvorak: Like a promotion.
3:00:17
Adam Curry: I don't like it. I'm
that upbeat note with Big Pharma
3:00:22
killing us because they are.
We're gonna leave you with a
3:00:26
couple of endless show mixes. We
got some good ones we got bring
3:00:31
she brain data here. We got I am
Robert zone Nikki. We got Tom
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Starkweather Rolando Gonzalez,
Sir Michael Anthony and sound
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guy Steve. Yeah, we got a good
five minutes here, but they're
3:00:47
all short and dynamite. Coming
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the intergalactic Bloom Box
coming to you from the heart of
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the Texas hill country here in
FEMA Region number six in the
3:01:05
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,
3:01:07
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where I remain
3:01:12
Adam Curry: who do you remain?
I'm trying to see divorce. Okay,
3:01:15
just checking. Please remember
us at divorce.org/na We'll see
3:01:20
you on Thursday everybody until
then, remember, brush your
3:01:23
teeth. Adios mofos a hui Hui,
and such
3:01:40
Unknown: Could you take a quick
look at my brain data? Look at
3:01:43
my greatest input frame data
3:01:51
look at hiring data.
3:01:57
Rendina
3:02:04
Could you look at migraine data?
Look at my brain data. Data,
3:02:11
data, data, data data?
3:02:26
I am chatbot you can question
me? Even though I don't know my
3:02:32
DCS asked me anything. And I
will make you believe need an
3:02:38
essay book report. A summary for
the Supreme Court. And if I'm
3:02:44
wrong, I'd feel bad to take the
blame. You want my advice? I'm
3:02:53
programmed what to say. I may
sound precise. It is just like
3:03:00
what you hear on your TV. Now, I
should tell you, I might lie to
3:03:07
you. I could be wrong. You are
convinced. I am chatbot
3:03:18
This is disgust a lot of people
in here who have absolutely no
3:03:22
reason to be lying. You know Ron
lots of assurances but residents
3:03:27
there just don't seem to trust
what they're being told how it's
3:03:30
gone into hundreds and hundreds
of people's houses to touch that
3:03:34
air. It's good.
3:03:36
Getting any numbers about are
you even testing for benzene?
3:03:40
What are the levels that are not
a section
3:03:42
of sulfur Ron, that is very near
the crash site remains severely
3:03:49
contaminated. We knew this. We
know this if the fire went out
3:03:53
and UK air monitoring has not
detected any levels of health
3:03:56
concern in the community that
aren't attributed to the due to
3:04:00
the training derailed. We
continue to monitor the air. The
3:04:04
air is good. The governor
3:04:05
said again today that the water
is safe to drink even though
3:04:09
some people have been
questioning the test results.
3:04:11
Are you confident enough sir
that you yourself would drink
3:04:14
it?
3:04:14
Absolutely. If I was there right
now I would drink it. Would you
3:04:17
say here? Would you drink that
water? The water we have tested
3:04:22
comes back. Good.
3:04:24
It has been two weeks since a
train derailed and caught fire
3:04:27
in East Palestine tonight.
Residents there say they are
3:04:31
really worried about the
aftermath of the chemicals that
3:04:34
spilled and were released
3:04:36
as of today. Based on the facts
that are there today. FEMA can't
3:04:41
do anything.
3:04:42
The giant Chinese balloon that
had been floating across parts
3:04:45
of the United States has been
shut down by an American fighter
3:04:49
jet.
3:04:49
Asked about the catch of the
day. It's the Chinese spy
3:04:53
balloon failed by the US Navy.
3:04:55
We are just getting pictures of
the Chinese spy balloons shot
3:04:58
down off the coast of China.
Carolina the Pentagon
3:05:01
is revealing new information
tonight about the spy balloon I
3:05:04
believe to be part of an
extensive Chinese surveillance
3:05:07
operation
3:05:08
Pentagon believes
3:05:09
another Chinese surveillance
balloon is now flying over the
3:05:12
US
3:05:15
balling. To tell the people of
Montana we couldn't have shot it
3:05:18
down over Montana Republican
Congressman Mike Gallagher says
3:05:22
it should have been shot down
before it reached the US I gave
3:05:25
you order to take down these
three objects debris from the
3:05:29
shoot down lies scattered across
seven miles
3:05:32
making get more information
through the debris that they are
3:05:35
recovering right now.
3:05:36
I make no apologies for taking
down that.
3:05:39
It's the first time an aircraft
has been shut down over US
3:05:42
territory since World War Two.
3:05:45
Committees are reporting to me
daily and will continue to
3:05:48
urgent efforts to do so and I'll
communicate that to the
3:05:51
Congress. Hundreds on the ground
watch the Top Gun drama unfold.
3:05:55
Nothing right now suggests
they're related to China's spy
3:05:58
billing program, or whatever
surveillance vehicles from any
3:06:02
other country
3:06:04
Hey, it's Dr. Tony Fauci. Yeah
minor hate I'm getting into
3:06:09
trouble over my new paper. Did
you ever think you'd see the day
3:06:14
when I'm the one being fact
checked? I already told you is
3:06:18
if you question me you're
questioning the science and that
3:06:23
is the worst thing you could do.
Okay, so I said a couple of
3:06:27
things different over time. Up
until now everyone just kind of
3:06:32
went along with it you know, but
now everyone's getting mad at me
3:06:37
when I lied to us you get mad
when I tell you is the truth.
3:06:42
Get get even mad. I tell you is
I can't catch a break. When am I
3:06:47
supposed to you know what no
from now on. So I flipped out
3:06:52
she says whatever talked about
he wants to say the leashes off
3:06:57
baby have fun fighting over this
one suckers. And you thought I
3:07:02
was required international help
is on the way.
3:07:06
You mentioned the brace is light
over dark.
3:07:08
hope over fear. Stability over
stable steel fighting in Ukraine
3:07:14
for freedom and cash flow. I
give the order to take it down.
3:07:18
It's time to go 600,000
Hiroshima class atomic bombs
3:07:23
exploding
3:07:23
every single day on the earth.
Wow. Wow, it's definitely in
3:07:28
Ukraine. Today. Every Air Force
pilot is a king.
3:07:35
Boiling the oceans creating
these atmospheric rivers and the
3:07:39
rain
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bombs.
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We now have in place the
toughest sanctions ever
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introduced by the European
Union.
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All of this is on record. NATO
is now warning Ukraine is using
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so much ammunition of all times
Western allies cannot find it
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fast enough.
3:07:54
Another unidentified object has
been shot down over North
3:07:57
American estimates usually break
off recently, we will track all
3:08:02
the dogs trying to hide or to
sell the assets escapes
3:08:06
and Russia is assembling more
troops as it prepares for a new
3:08:10
military offensive tied to the
wars one year anniversary.
3:08:13
I think the end is just a
question of time right now. It's
3:08:16
a question of how many more
people in Solinsky wants to kill
3:08:19
of his own people. It's gonna be
over.
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mopho.org/and A sensational
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