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            Adam Curry: Well looks like a
woman, Adam curry Jhansi Devora
          
                  
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            Sunday February 19 2023. This is
your award winning combination
          
                  
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            media assassination episode
1531. This is no agenda, using
          
                  
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            my blowhole to broadcast live
from the heart of the country
          
                  
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            here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm
          
                  
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            Adam curry here
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where we're
          
                  
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            hoping you're going to shoot
down some are hobbyist balloons,
          
                  
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            bastards of Jhansi Dvorak
          
                  
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            Unknown: and buzzkill
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: it wasn't just
hobbyists. It was a ham radio
          
                  
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            hobbyist balloon.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: Well, that was
one of them. Yeah, yes.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Just one. You know
how I have always joked about
          
                  
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            plastic surgeons who say just a
few days of bruising, ma'am. You
          
                  
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            know that. Turns out oral
surgeons are very similar, but
          
                  
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            they're all surgeons. Just a
sore for a day or two jaunt my
          
                  
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            mouth is is so taut from the
swelling is like I'm talking to
          
                  
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            a
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: blowhole. Paul
used to blowhole Joker. Well,
          
                  
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            you
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: didn't say anything.
So I wanted to make sure you you
          
                  
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            heard it.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: i You sound huge
sound 10 by 10 Yeah, five
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: by five. I know. I
know. But it hurts by six.
          
                  
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            Square when it hurts when I
laugh so let's make it oh yeah,
          
                  
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            let's make it a just kind of a
regular old show. Do you mind
          
                  
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            just not too funny.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: Very little shows
are pretty humorous. I do have
          
                  
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            my book here out a book called
Book jokes, puns and riddles.
          
                  
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            No, I David Alan Clark. Hola.
Let's not do that. No, this is a
          
                  
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            book that I'm I'm gonna tell you
some interesting. 9668. So this
          
                  
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            is hippie humor. And I'm going
to tell you I could read
          
                  
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            anything from this book and I
guarantee you won't laugh.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Oh, that would make
sense. Hippie humor is generally
          
                  
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            just not funny.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: Question. Okay,
when is spanking like a hat?
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: I don't know when
his spanking like a hat. John.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: When it is felt?
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Oh, man is this did
Marty write this book? Oh, I
          
                  
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            hurt myself.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: Your day? I
didn't do it. All right. All
          
                  
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            right. Well, maybe you're wise
and hammer one liners should be
          
                  
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            dead put a halt. That's what it
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: is. The Munich
Security Conference is on. I
          
                  
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            have a clip diver clip too. But
since I called it, I'll do the
          
                  
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            overview and then we'll see what
you have. I got a couple of
          
                  
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            things here. This is the the
annual conference everyone gets
          
                  
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            together in Deutschland. Last
year, of course, the Lensky was
          
                  
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            there in his civilian suit, to
recommend that everyone get
          
                  
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            ready for the war. And now we're
one year further. And here's a
          
                  
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            couple of years an overview of
what the leaders had to say
          
                  
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            including hair Zielinski
himself.
          
                  
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            Unknown: We Solinsky set the
tone comparing Ukraine's fight
          
                  
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            against Russia to David and
Goliath.
          
                  
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            He will definitely fall already.
This year. We can make it all of
          
                  
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            us together just as David did.
We can make sure that there is
          
                  
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            no alternative to our victory.
          
                  
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            Ukraine's President urged
Western leaders to act quickly
          
                  
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            we need
          
                  
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            to hurry up we need the speed
speed of our agreements speed of
          
                  
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            our delivery to strengthen our
slink speed of decisions to
          
                  
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            limit Russian potential was the
Linsky pushed for
          
                  
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            speed. German Chancellor Olaf
Schultz argued for caution. By
          
                  
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            last, we will continue to
maintain the balance between
          
                  
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            providing the best possible
support to Ukraine and avoiding
          
                  
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            an unwanted escalation.
          
                  
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            But shorts also challenged
Western countries to deliver on
          
                  
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            promised weapons.
          
                  
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            This means that everyone who can
supply these battle tanks should
          
                  
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            actually do so now. Emmanuel
Macron from Ukraine remains
          
                  
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            firm. No, absolutely
          
                  
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            not, we must absolutely
intensify our support for the
          
                  
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            resistance of the Ukrainian
people and army for leading the
          
                  
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            counter offensive, which alone
will enable credible
          
                  
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            negotiations under the
conditions chosen by Ukraine.
          
                  
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            Authorities, its people.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: So that's the
overview sounds pretty boring.
          
                  
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            Although Zielinski is almost.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: He's almost my
overviews a little better than
          
                  
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            that.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Okay. I'm glad I was
just going to finish by
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: this is an actual
overview. That doesn't really
          
                  
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            bring in any details like were
you just that's more detail this
          
                  
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            is Munich Security Conference
clip.
          
                  
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            Unknown: The Munich Security
Conference kicks off today in
          
                  
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            Bavaria, Germany. The meeting is
an annual gathering of experts
          
                  
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            Senior Policy missions and heads
of state for talks on global
          
                  
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            security policy. German
Chancellor Olaf Scholz and
          
                  
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            French President Emmanuel
McCrone have arrived at the
          
                  
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            venue to meet with other
European leaders. Their speeches
          
                  
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            will follow opening remarks by
Ukrainian president Volodymyr
          
                  
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            Zelensky. Also among the guests,
our UK Prime Minister Rishi
          
                  
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            Sunak, European Commission had
Ursula von der Leyen and NATO
          
                  
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            Secretary General Jens
Stoltenberg representing the US
          
                  
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            is Vice President Kamala Harris.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Rah rah Oh, I see
why you were so jacked about
          
                  
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            playing your clip, because now
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: why do they What
is she doing there? She
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: was there last year.
If you recall, she is the
          
                  
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            represent she is there to say,
with the passage of time. And
          
                  
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            Solinsky is almost quoting song
lyrics, we can make it we can
          
                  
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            make it looks like we made it
I'm telling you this is almost
          
                  
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            over. But not until we shake
down the people of the United
          
                  
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            States, the UK, the EU, and back
home, we had the representatives
          
                  
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            telling us how they're going to
take it from us
          
                  
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            Unknown: and then deliver much
needed humanitarian assistance
          
                  
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            as well as food, water,
medicine, shelter, and other aid
          
                  
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            to Ukrainians, displaced by
Russians war, and provide aid
          
                  
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            for those seeking refuge and
other countries from Ukraine is
          
                  
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            also going to help schools and
hospitals open. It's going to
          
                  
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            allow pensions and social
support to be paid to the
          
                  
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            Ukrainian people. So they have
something something in their
          
                  
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            pocket, also going to provide
critical resources to address
          
                  
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            food shortages around the globe.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: No, they need their
pensions. We don't need our
          
                  
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            pensions giving them cash. Yes,
screw you, America with your
          
                  
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            pensions. We're giving them
cash. We're giving them food
          
                  
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            when you're hungry. You're
hungry, you should go to
          
                  
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            Ukraine.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: So that the
homeless situation around here
          
                  
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            that I know they have the best
of homeless in DC.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Oh, a lot of
homeless in DC. It's been bad
          
                  
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            for a long time once you crossed
the border of Foggy Bottom.
          
                  
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            Yeah, so here's Mitch McConnell,
leader of the Republicans are
          
                  
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            listening to the Ukrainian
saying they don't have enough
          
                  
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            and by the way on Fox News with
Dana Perino are listening to the
          
                  
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            Unknown: Ukrainian saying they
don't have enough ammo. And even
          
                  
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            our defense department is saying
we might have to figure out a
          
                  
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            way to get more funding so that
we have an ammo for ourselves
          
                  
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            and our allies like grant
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: funding. This is
such a scam. We are being stolen
          
                  
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            from right before our very eyes.
Oh, we don't have enough
          
                  
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            bullets. Not enough ammo. We
need more funding. Wait, but we
          
                  
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            have, we haven't figured out the
debt limit yet. Oh, it's gonna
          
                  
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            be so fun.
          
                  
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            Unknown: What is Biden's
responsibility and trying to
          
                  
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            make sure that people in America
whose support for Ukraine is
          
                  
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            softening? We'll want to
continue to try to help them.
          
                  
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            Well, I'm going to try to help
explain to the American people
          
                  
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            that just feeding the Russians
and Ukraine is the single most
          
                  
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            important event going on in the
world right now.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: I don't care what
you think is the single most
          
                  
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            important thing in the entire
world. Even if you're hungry,
          
                  
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            even if you're safe. If you have
no jingle jangle in your pocket,
          
                  
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            it's all about Ukraine. That's
the most important thing.
          
                  
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            Unknown: It will save us an
enormous amount of money down
          
                  
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            the road if Ukrainians can
succeed. They're not asking for
          
                  
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            any of our personnel.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: It's an investment
people this it'll save us money
          
                  
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            down the road. If the Ukrainians
can succeed. It's an it's really
          
                  
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            you should see it as an
investment in your children in
          
                  
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            the bank interest in your
children's future. It
          
                  
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            Unknown: will save us an
enormous amount of money down
          
                  
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            the road if Ukrainians can
succeed. They're not asking for
          
                  
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            any of our personnel are asking
us for financial help. Europeans
          
                  
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            are stepping up.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: By the way,
financial help. Dana Perino just
          
                  
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            opened by saying, Man, we need
money for the military
          
                  
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            industrial complex, we were out
of ammo, they're out of ammo.
          
                  
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            And then he says, well, we need
money for them. No, no, this
          
                  
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            we're we're being robbed. We're
being robbed by the military
          
                  
            9:02
          
          
            industrial complex, and they're
just gonna keep going until
          
                  
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            someone stops it we're not
          
                  
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            Unknown: asking for any of our
personnel are asking us for
          
                  
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            financial help
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: us keep saying yeah,
they are. What are they asking
          
                  
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            for?
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: You're asking for
our personnel. They'd love to
          
                  
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            have our personnel over there.
They have our
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: personnel are some
of this money is going to the
          
                  
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            mercenaries that's our
personnel,
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: not only just
mercenaries, according to that
          
                  
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            clip that I played last show US
Army. Yeah, that guy wasn't a
          
                  
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            mercenary he was talking about
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: No, he was an
advisor. Oh, yes. Advisor with a
          
                  
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            gun and advisor cannot be
neutral. Here's our ghost. Let
          
                  
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            me show him advise you how to do
this. You point over there. Now
          
                  
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            I'm going to pull the trigger.
This is just advice. Okay.
          
                  
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            Unknown: Culture makes choices
in times like the
          
                  
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            sorry, down the road if
Ukrainians can succeed. They're
          
                  
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            not asking for any of our
personnel or asking us for
          
                  
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            financial help. The Europeans
are stepping up to They've
          
                  
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            gotten an awful lot that seems
not to be recognized, for
          
                  
            10:04
          
          
            example, handling like enormous
numbers of refugees.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Man, I keep doing
it. They were not recognizing
          
                  
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            how good the Europeans are. The
Europeans are really actually
          
                  
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            better than us. Because we're
just not recognizing how much
          
                  
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            they've done an
          
                  
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            Unknown: awful lot that seems
not to be recognized, for
          
                  
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            example, handling enormous
numbers of refugees. In terms of
          
                  
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            the cost of a Dinah, it's about
point oh, 2% of our gross
          
                  
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            domestic product. Oh, we'll
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: give that to
Americans. Because it's just a
          
                  
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            little bit. So was $130 billion
is just Oh, point. Oh, 2% of our
          
                  
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            why don't we give another 0.0
point 2% of the GDP to
          
                  
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            Americans. This, I cannot
believe that anyone sitting at
          
                  
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            home going? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
We really got to help out
          
                  
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            Ukraine. I just does. It seems
like this must be falling on
          
                  
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            deaf ears.
          
                  
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            Unknown: We are also monitoring
very carefully that money that's
          
                  
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            being spent. There should be a
bipartisan why
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: I said bullcrap
you don't even they can't even
          
                  
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            audit the Pentagon, let alone
figure out where that money's
          
                  
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            going to descend it if you
remember when this war first
          
                  
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            started, and they started
shipping money over there. They
          
                  
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            lost track of it immediately was
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: 400 million 400
million. I don't know, even
          
                  
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            someone pointed out to me the
clip you played on the last show
          
                  
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            about running out of ammunition.
They actually said the
          
                  
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            ammunition is lost. They didn't
say it's it's like missing. It's
          
                  
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            missing in this. It is so
obvious that
          
                  
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            Unknown: we are also monitoring
very carefully that money was
          
                  
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            being spent. It should be a
bipartisan support for this my
          
                  
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            biggest criticism of the
President as he seems not to
          
                  
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            have done enough soon enough,
more, more rapidly, we might
          
                  
            12:03
          
          
            have been able to help the
Ukrainians have even more
          
                  
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            success than they've already
had. But it seems like these
          
                  
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            weapons systems tend to get
there. A little too late. on
          
                  
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            every occasion. I'm sorry.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Dana Perino
representative news model for
          
                  
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            the military industrial complex.
Exactly,
          
                  
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            Unknown: because they're a
little too late. on every
          
                  
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            occasion, exactly. Public
opinion, slotting but I want to
          
                  
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            reassure the American people
this is this is enormously
          
                  
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            important. We need to stay
together on a bipartisan basis
          
                  
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            in our country, and defend these
people who are bravely fighting
          
                  
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            for freedom and for democracy
and you're crying.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Alright, so this is
this is the new narrative. By
          
                  
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            the way. I didn't hear Dana
Perino say anything in this
          
                  
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            report, even when she when she
asked the question about support
          
                  
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            sliding. So support is sliding.
He's aware of it. They're aware,
          
                  
            13:00
          
          
            but he just brought that in
without any prompting. The same
          
                  
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            is happening in Europe. And
Queen Ursula gave an interview.
          
                  
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            She had a very stressful
interview. It was kind of a
          
                  
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            stand up thing at the Munich
Security Conference. I think
          
                  
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            someone stopped her on the
buzzer. strahd. That's a
          
                  
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            international speak for a
balcony. And then she got a
          
                  
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            whole bunch of mics jammed in
her face and she couldn't get
          
                  
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            away from it. And if you look
closer at her, she is her. Her
          
                  
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            lizard reptile mouth is starting
to show. She has all the little
          
                  
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            creases lines all around her
mouth know when she could seem
          
                  
            13:38
          
          
            easily saw with some injectables
just a few days of bruising. But
          
                  
            13:43
          
          
            now it just looks really makes
her look like a reptile. So a
          
                  
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            couple of questions here. And
the first one is of course the
          
                  
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            people of the EU who have
millions of refugees who have
          
                  
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            come into the EU countries.
Poland would be number one I
          
                  
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            would say but they're in the
Netherlands they're in in France
          
                  
            14:02
          
          
            or they're everywhere. And
support is sliding people after
          
                  
            14:06
          
          
            a year of having this go on.
People are starting to get weary
          
                  
            14:10
          
          
            and luckily she has a solution.
          
                  
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            Unknown: Europe has taken in
millions of Ukrainian refugees
          
                  
            14:16
          
          
            and towns have been very
supportive. They want to help
          
                  
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            these people but they are saying
they are straining under the on
          
                  
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            first flooding of refugees. What
can you do to help them because
          
                  
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            they are saying they are
reaching limit?
          
                  
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            Christabel? Yes, I want to
acknowledge and thank from the
          
                  
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            bottom of my heart. All these
people, Europeans who have
          
                  
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            opened their hearts and their
homes to the Ukrainian refugees
          
                  
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            is amazing. And I understand
that this is straining over
          
                  
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            time. This is why we introduced
the Temporary Protection
          
                  
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            Directive, which means
basically, direct access for the
          
                  
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            Ukrainians to the labor market,
to the schooling system to the
          
                  
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            health system and to Social
Security.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Oh, okay, so it's
gonna get some It's better
          
                  
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            Europe. Now, the EU has decided
apparently through this special
          
                  
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            mechanism that the refugees can
get access to your children's
          
                  
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            schools, to your, your social
services and and your social
          
                  
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            money. Okay, so don't worry
about it. Is it going to be
          
                  
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            there for a while, but we're
going to take care of it. We're
          
                  
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            paying for them with your money.
          
                  
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            Unknown: What's the Temporary
Protection Directive, which
          
                  
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            means basically, direct access
for the Ukrainians to the labor
          
                  
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            market, to the schooling system,
to the health system and to
          
                  
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            Social Security? Also, to help
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: why wait a minute,
Social Security? Wait a minute,
          
                  
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            Biden said we need to give them
money for Social Security? Is
          
                  
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            this our money? Bonus? Let me
just go back and listen to the
          
                  
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            end of Biden there. Where is he?
I mean, we heard that right. Let
          
                  
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            me just check here. Last bit of
Biden,
          
                  
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            Unknown: at people so they have
something something in their
          
                  
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            pocket. It's also going to
provide critical resources to
          
                  
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            address food shortages around
pensions and social support to
          
                  
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            be paid to the Ukrainian people.
So they have something
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: pensions Okay, now,
not the same thing before I
          
                  
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            thought we were paying for it.
          
                  
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            Unknown: Direct access for the
Ukrainians, to the labor market,
          
                  
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            to the schooling system, to the
health system and to Social
          
                  
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            Security, also to help take the
burden off the shoulder of the
          
                  
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            ordinary people who did a great
job. So when you see is coming,
          
                  
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            because the Lindsay said at this
conference that
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: she said for the
ordinary people who did a great
          
                  
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            job, is that what she said? Yes,
          
                  
            16:38
          
          
            Adam Curry: they did a great job
of flee. Great job. Okay, I hear
          
                  
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            you This is gobbledygook. When
you see is coming? Oh, here we
          
                  
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            go. Here comes the piece
question. Now we've been paying
          
                  
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            attention to the piece when this
piece coming at this conference
          
                  
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            Unknown: that he was thinking
that the next Munich Conference,
          
                  
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            that will be a post war
conference,
          
                  
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            do you also believe that this
war will be over within a year,
          
                  
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            I will not make any predictions,
because this is not to put in
          
                  
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            words for me at the moment being
important is, as Ukraine is
          
                  
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            fighting for our basic values
for the respect for the
          
                  
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            international law, for the UN
Charter. And for the fact that
          
                  
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            today, you cannot send tanks
across a border and unleashed
          
                  
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            that's an aggression. So Ukraine
is really fighting for
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: what do you think
that means? We can't send the
          
                  
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            tanks across the board. I'm not
quite on anything, because he's
          
                  
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            talking about here.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: Tariffs play it
again,
          
                  
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            Unknown: basic values for the
respect a little bit. Alright,
          
                  
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            for me at the moment being
important is, as Ukraine is
          
                  
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            fighting for our basic values
for the respect for the
          
                  
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            international law for the UN
Charter.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Okay, there it is.
This is important respect for
          
                  
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            international law, respect for
the UN Charter here we got the
          
                  
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            moment
          
                  
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            Unknown: being important is, as
Ukraine is fighting for our
          
                  
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            basic values for the respect for
the international law, for the
          
                  
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            UN Charter. And for the fact
that today, you cannot send
          
                  
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            tanks across a border and
unleash such an aggression. So
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: yes, that's what
she's referring to Putin sending
          
                  
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            track tanks across gas. Yeah,
frame
          
                  
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            Unknown: is really fighting for
existential values that we have.
          
                  
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            And therefore full support from
our side. Putting imperialistic
          
                  
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            plan must fail
          
                  
            18:34
          
          
            a little bit more on the
timeline. Are you going to be
          
                  
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            proposing this formally Is that
what's the next steps in this
          
                  
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            proposal? And one of the
problems has been that even
          
                  
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            though there has been money, for
example, through NATO, countries
          
                  
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            have not signed contracts. And
that has slowed the whole
          
                  
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            process down. How can you ensure
that once you have the money on
          
                  
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            the table, this the contracts
are signed and production can
          
                  
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            start?
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Okay, that what she
just throws out there, this
          
                  
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            ladies in the know, somehow she
works for Deutsche Bella
          
                  
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            production can start, I think
this is about more weapons. But
          
                  
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            she's saying there's no
contracts to said, you know,
          
                  
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            what's the timeline for, for
kicking Putin his ass, because
          
                  
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            the contracts have not been
signed.
          
                  
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            Unknown: It is important because
of the lack of contracts to give
          
                  
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            a certain amount of certainty to
the defense industry. And these
          
                  
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            are the advanced,
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: they want long term
contracts. The defense industry
          
                  
            19:31
          
          
            doesn't just want like just a
little thing, not enough, we
          
                  
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            want long term certainty and
contracts
          
                  
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            Unknown: of contracts to give a
certain amount of certainty to
          
                  
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            the defense industry. And these
are the advanced purchase
          
                  
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            agreements that we have good
experiences with ya. And for
          
                  
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            that it needs a European
approach because it cannot rest
          
                  
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            on the shoulders of one country
for example. So this is the
          
                  
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            approach. The second is we have
DNS tuition is in place. So we
          
                  
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            should not create something new,
that we should use the European
          
                  
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            peace facility, which has an
coordination mechanism with
          
                  
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            Ukraine, or
          
                  
            20:09
          
          
            Adam Curry: the European peace
facility, which funds the
          
                  
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            military industrial complex is
great,
          
                  
            20:14
          
          
            Unknown: we have the
institutions in place. So we
          
                  
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            should not create something new,
that we should use the European
          
                  
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            peace facility, which has an
coordination mechanism with
          
                  
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            Ukraine already in place, we can
use the so called AKA, which is
          
                  
            20:28
          
          
            a procurement institution that
is knows all the mechanism. So
          
                  
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            for me, the practical be fast.
And these are the ingredients
          
                  
            20:37
          
          
            that we're going to put
together.
          
                  
            20:39
          
          
            Adam Curry: Alright, be
practical, be fast, let's get
          
                  
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            the money to the military
industrial complex as quickly as
          
                  
            20:43
          
          
            possible. Now back to the peace
process. It looks like they're
          
                  
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            the pieces are coming together.
And what I see happening is not
          
                  
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            a not an actual victory. You
know, it's all up to Ukraine.
          
                  
            21:00
          
          
            Not not a victory on the field.
But there will be an agreement,
          
                  
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            there will be a negotiations,
and that will end the war. And
          
                  
            21:09
          
          
            we're getting pretty close to
mechanism seems to be the IPCC
          
                  
            21:13
          
          
            the international criminal or
the ICC, International Criminal
          
                  
            21:17
          
          
            Court, special tribunal. But one
question you mentioned, Vice
          
                  
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            President Harris's speech is
this a change in tone from the
          
                  
            21:24
          
          
            White House?
          
                  
            21:24
          
          
            Unknown: This is significant in
that the US now does formally
          
                  
            21:27
          
          
            consider Russia to have
committed crimes against
          
                  
            21:30
          
          
            humanity. But how to actually
hold Russia accountable is a
          
                  
            21:33
          
          
            huge question that countries are
grappling with right now.
          
                  
            21:35
          
          
            Ukraine is calling for a special
international tribunal to try
          
                  
            21:39
          
          
            Vladimir Putin. But that seems a
long way off for now.
          
                  
            21:42
          
          
            Adam Curry: Maybe not, maybe not
we go over to CNN on on poor and
          
                  
            21:47
          
          
            company Christianna on him poor
globalist extraordinaire, they
          
                  
            21:51
          
          
            have on Bill Browder, who,
himself is a very interesting
          
                  
            21:56
          
          
            figure who got basically kicked
out of Russia. And if there's
          
                  
            22:03
          
          
            money to be had, I'm sure he
would have an interest in
          
                  
            22:05
          
          
            hanging around to get some of
it, he can probably prove that
          
                  
            22:08
          
          
            he deserved some of it. So he is
telling the on poor CNN and
          
                  
            22:12
          
          
            company exactly what the
mechanism is how it's going to
          
                  
            22:16
          
          
            work. And why.
          
                  
            22:17
          
          
            Unknown: Explain to me the
mechanics of confidence skating,
          
                  
            22:20
          
          
            that central bank was,
          
                  
            22:21
          
          
            Adam Curry: this is Russia. $600
million, add to for starters.
          
                  
            22:25
          
          
            Well,
          
                  
            22:26
          
          
            Unknown: so at the moment, those
reserve billion I'm sorry, herds
          
                  
            22:28
          
          
            are protected by something
called sovereign immunity.
          
                  
            22:31
          
          
            Sovereign Immunity means that
anything that belongs to a
          
                  
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            country, a state can't be taken
away, you can't like just move
          
                  
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            into the embassy because you
would like that property,
          
                  
            22:41
          
          
            because it belongs to that
country. And normally, that
          
                  
            22:44
          
          
            would be a reasonable thing. And
that's how international law has
          
                  
            22:47
          
          
            worked for the last many, many
years. Now, Putin has redefined
          
                  
            22:53
          
          
            international crime, he has
redrawn the borders of Europe,
          
                  
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            he's invaded a foreign country
he's killed. He's been a mass
          
                  
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            murderer killed the unimaginable
numbers of people. And so we're
          
                  
            23:05
          
          
            sitting there in this situation
where he's reading, redefine
          
                  
            23:08
          
          
            international crime. And we're,
we're sitting there saying you
          
                  
            23:13
          
          
            and your money is still
protected. We need to redefine
          
                  
            23:16
          
          
            international law, to elevate it
to the level of his the way he's
          
                  
            23:23
          
          
            become an international
criminal. And what does that
          
                  
            23:25
          
          
            mean specifically? That means
that that laws have to be passed
          
                  
            23:29
          
          
            in a number of major developed
countries, which says that
          
                  
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            sovereign immunity always
applies in every single
          
                  
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            circumstance, except in the
circumstance, when a country has
          
                  
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            invaded a neighboring country
and committed an act of
          
                  
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            aggression, which is how this
war is being defined under legal
          
                  
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            terms. So that's the one narrow
circumstance where sovereign
          
                  
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            immunity no longer applies. If
we do that, if the United States
          
                  
            23:55
          
          
            and the European Union and Great
Britain and Canada and Japan
          
                  
            23:59
          
          
            rewrote their laws to say that
sovereign immunity applies, in
          
                  
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            all circumstances other than
those, then we could then
          
                  
            24:06
          
          
            confiscate their money. We
wouldn't be doing any legally
          
                  
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            we'd be doing it based on a law
that's been rewritten to adapt
          
                  
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            itself to the current situation.
          
                  
            24:15
          
          
            Adam Curry: Easy, which,
          
                  
            24:16
          
          
            John C Dvorak: of course, yes,
she brings up the point that one
          
                  
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            of the staples of Western
civilization is the avoidance of
          
                  
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            ex post facto laws, right? No,
no, no, I
          
                  
            24:28
          
          
            Adam Curry: don't think that was
in there. For some reason, it
          
                  
            24:30
          
          
            just didn't come up. Now, this
is what's so beautiful. Is there
          
                  
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            yet, what you just said is okay,
we're going to convict some
          
                  
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            somebody based upon a law we
wrote after the utrust Well, I
          
                  
            24:40
          
          
            guess they could just wait,
change the law and then say all
          
                  
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            crimes against humanity because
as you know, invading another
          
                  
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            country is a crime against
humanity. It's not like, like
          
                  
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            any of our president would fall
under that, but Putin would, and
          
                  
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            it looks like we just might have
a venue for the negotiation, as
          
                  
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            we have the trial going on in
The Hague. In the Netherlands,
          
                  
            25:01
          
          
            under the joint investigation
team, the same team that
          
                  
            25:04
          
          
            convicted Putin of being behind
the Malaysian downing from a
          
                  
            25:11
          
          
            from a rocket shot off from in
Ukraine, but of course that was
          
                  
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            Putin. It looks like there may
be a venue for peace
          
                  
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            negotiations, which I think
would leave Putin with whatever
          
                  
            25:20
          
          
            he has with Crimea, the DOM
boss, he keeps all that he just,
          
                  
            25:24
          
          
            you know, just stays on that. On
that border. We cover that up
          
                  
            25:29
          
          
            with a whole you know, with guys
with with black and white tunics
          
                  
            25:33
          
          
            on in the court. And we'll have
a big show trial that probably
          
                  
            25:36
          
          
            have his head on a stick in the,
you know, in the docket, so that
          
                  
            25:40
          
          
            we can looks like we actually
have him there. And this is
          
                  
            25:43
          
          
            where it looks like the peace
negotiation may take place.
          
                  
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            Unknown: But the war in Ukraine
end sooner than expected. I know
          
                  
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            we have been asking this
question for quite some time
          
                  
            25:53
          
          
            now. But some unexpected
developments have forced us to
          
                  
            25:57
          
          
            ask this question again.
developments like these
          
                  
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            Alexander Lukashenko inviting
the American President Joe Biden
          
                  
            26:04
          
          
            to men's waterfall, to end the
Ukraine war for the unverse
          
                  
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            Lukashenko is the president of
Belarus and one of Vladimir
          
                  
            26:13
          
          
            Putin's closest allies. In fact,
they are best friends of sorts.
          
                  
            26:17
          
          
            So when a man like this extends
an olive branch to the west,
          
                  
            26:21
          
          
            when he makes offers like these
to the US president, one has to
          
                  
            26:25
          
          
            take them rather seriously
          
                  
            26:26
          
          
            Adam Curry: that Putin won't
even go he'll send somebody else
          
                  
            26:29
          
          
            they're going to end this after
we've signed the long term
          
                  
            26:32
          
          
            contracts, we need two years
worth of ammo and training, etc,
          
                  
            26:36
          
          
            etc, etc. And I think that
signal is now gone out to the
          
                  
            26:39
          
          
            military industrial complex one
more time boys would do a two
          
                  
            26:43
          
          
            year long term contract and then
we're just going to cut it down
          
                  
            26:45
          
          
            and stop it slowly move it over
to China, which is where the the
          
                  
            26:50
          
          
            new which is where the new focus
belongs. And the only problem is
          
                  
            26:56
          
          
            we have a couple of a whole
journalists that's that's the
          
                  
            26:59
          
          
            that's the the problem we still
got to fix. Because our buddy
          
                  
            27:03
          
          
            Matt Lee AP Diplo writer is
back. He's back, given people a
          
                  
            27:07
          
          
            hard time at the State
Department, in this case, Matt
          
                  
            27:11
          
          
            Lee grilles Rear Admiral Kirby,
on who actually is the aggressor
          
                  
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            here. Did Russia get closer to
NATO? Or did NATO get closer to
          
                  
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            Russia
          
                  
            27:22
          
          
            Unknown: say the reason that the
Russian army is on NATO? The
          
                  
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            Russian army is at NATO's
doorstep as Because NATO has
          
                  
            27:27
          
          
            expanded rather than the
Russians expanding that in other
          
                  
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            words, NATO has moved closer to
Russia rather than Russia moving
          
                  
            27:36
          
          
            closer to NATO. Is that not an
accurate way to look at this?
          
                  
            27:40
          
          
            That's the way President Putin
probably looks at it. It's
          
                  
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            certainly not the way that we
look at it.
          
                  
            27:44
          
          
            You don't you don't think that
NATO has expanded eastward
          
                  
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            toward Russia.
          
                  
            27:48
          
          
            NATO has expanded and they
expect good thing for
          
                  
            27:51
          
          
            the reason that the Russian army
isn't NATO's doorstep is not the
          
                  
            27:54
          
          
            fault of the Russian are not the
it's not the Russian army that's
          
                  
            27:58
          
          
            done it. It's NATO has moved
closer to move here. It
          
                  
            28:01
          
          
            wasn't NATO who was ordering,
you know, upwards of 15
          
                  
            28:04
          
          
            battalion tactical groups to
within 10 kilometers of the
          
                  
            28:07
          
          
            border with Ukraine. And I'm
pretty sure it wasn't NATO, who
          
                  
            28:09
          
          
            put little green men inside
Ukraine to destabilize
          
                  
            28:12
          
          
            eastern city sure that Ukraine
is not
          
                  
            28:14
          
          
            Adam Curry: a member of NATO.
That was Victoria Nuland, who
          
                  
            28:16
          
          
            put little green men inside
them. Hey, Don,
          
                  
            28:19
          
          
            Unknown: so unless that's
changed,
          
                  
            28:21
          
          
            it's the movement by Russia,
          
                  
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            NATO. NATO is moved east. The
reason that the Russian army is
          
                  
            28:28
          
          
            closer or on NATO's doorstep is
because NATO, NATO is
          
                  
            28:32
          
          
            not an anti Russia Alliance.
NATO is a security
          
                  
            28:37
          
          
            fit 50 years it was an anti
Russia Soviet Alliance. So what
          
                  
            28:41
          
          
            do you not understand it? It's
totally if you don't understand
          
                  
            28:44
          
          
            how can you not even see how the
Russians will perceive it as as
          
                  
            28:48
          
          
            a threat and the fact that it
keeps getting closer to their
          
                  
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            border while their troops? I
mean, the places where their
          
                  
            28:54
          
          
            troops are you say their troops
are and made may have been in
          
                  
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            Ukraine and Georgia are not made
up?
          
                  
            28:59
          
          
            I don't have I'm not going to
pretend to know what goes in
          
                  
            29:01
          
          
            President Putin's mind or
Russian military commanders. I
          
                  
            29:04
          
          
            mean, I barely got a history
degree at the University of
          
                  
            29:06
          
          
            South Florida where I can tell
you only stopped
          
                  
            29:10
          
          
            stopped. How about that? How
          
                  
            29:11
          
          
            about that?
          
                  
            29:12
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Why would
somebody this is like the guy
          
                  
            29:14
          
          
            says, Look, I'm a D student. So
I don't understand this sort of
          
                  
            29:19
          
          
            thing. Well, then what are you
even doing in this position? We
          
                  
            29:21
          
          
            don't want D is this that you're
an equity hire?
          
                  
            29:25
          
          
            Adam Curry: It seems like it at
this point. He's really
          
                  
            29:28
          
          
            struggling. He's really
struggling with this. Well, he's
          
                  
            29:30
          
          
            John C Dvorak: now he's claiming
to be a dummy from South
          
                  
            29:32
          
          
            Florida. Admiral Rear Admiral
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: retired.
          
                  
            29:37
          
          
            John C Dvorak: By the way, I got
a note from someone saying when
          
                  
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            we did the discussion about
Kirby being a woman
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: when you when you
brought this up, yes.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: Despite I think
it was a woman who wrote and
          
                  
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            said I until you started talking
about I always thought he wasn't
          
                  
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            or she was a woman. No, yes. i
Wow. I I believe you know, the
          
                  
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            void. This happened to me, by
the way, with the Laura Ingram,
          
                  
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            when she was on the radio,
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Oh, you thought Frau
Ingraham was her Ingraham. When,
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: when she's on the
radio, I don't know how they
          
                  
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            miked her or what they did or
how the equal eacute or I don't
          
                  
            30:18
          
          
            know what it was, but that was
just an accident. I'm driving
          
                  
            30:20
          
          
            around and actually turned her
show on. I thought it was some
          
                  
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            dude.
          
                  
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            Unknown: years it was an anti
Russia Soviet Alliance. So what
          
                  
            30:32
          
          
            do you do not understand how can
you not even see how the
          
                  
            30:37
          
          
            Russians would perceive it as as
a threat? Now?
          
                  
            30:39
          
          
            Adam Curry: That's the question,
his answer is even more baffling
          
                  
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            when you think about what the
simple question is,
          
                  
            30:44
          
          
            Unknown: and the fact that it
keeps getting closer to their
          
                  
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            border, while their troops. I
mean, the places where their
          
                  
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            troops are you say their troops
are and they may have been in
          
                  
            30:53
          
          
            Ukraine and Georgia are not made
up.
          
                  
            30:55
          
          
            I don't have I'm not going to
pretend to know what goes in
          
                  
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            President Putin's mind are
Russian military commanders. I
          
                  
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            mean, I barely got a history
degree at the University of
          
                  
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            South Florida.
          
                  
            31:03
          
          
            Man, that
          
                  
            31:04
          
          
            Adam Curry: is so stupid. What I
can tell you is that
          
                  
            31:07
          
          
            Unknown: is that NATO is a
defensive alliance, it remains a
          
                  
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            defensive alliance.
          
                  
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            But it has moved east, correct.
I mean, that's just expanded.
          
                  
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            Exactly. It's there's no
          
                  
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            reason for anybody to think the
expansion is a hostile or
          
                  
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            threatening. And we've been
saying that throughout the last
          
                  
            31:22
          
          
            15
          
                  
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            years now. You're, you're moving
closer to Russia, you're blaming
          
                  
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            the Russians for being close to
NATO. That's exactly what
          
                  
            31:31
          
          
            we're blaming the Russians for
violating the territorial
          
                  
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            integrity of Ukraine and
destabilizing the
          
                  
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            security system. Which is not a
NATO. I see other countries feel
          
                  
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            threatened.
          
                  
            31:41
          
          
            Adam Curry: Yeah, goodbye. Way
to go, Matt. only guy left. I
          
                  
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            think
          
                  
            31:49
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I barely got a
history history degree at the
          
                  
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            University of Florida.
University of Florida, it was
          
                  
            31:58
          
          
            South versus South Florida.
Whatever the hell that is.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: one more clip here.
Luckily, we know we need to keep
          
                  
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            the German people happy. Now we
got to keep them involved
          
                  
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            because, well, you know, they
actually have maybe still have
          
                  
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            some capacity to make some
weapons. I would say they except
          
                  
            32:16
          
          
            for Airbus. They pretty much are
that what's left of the defense
          
                  
            32:19
          
          
            industry in the EU. So let's
bring as Alinsky and Sean Penn
          
                  
            32:24
          
          
            into a film festival Shall we
cannot
          
                  
            32:26
          
          
            Unknown: be neutral. Culture
makes choices in times like
          
                  
            32:30
          
          
            fees. The words of Solinsky at
the opening gala of this year's
          
                  
            32:34
          
          
            Berlinale Film Festival.
          
                  
            32:38
          
          
            Today, Russia wants to build the
same wall Ukraine, a wall
          
                  
            32:45
          
          
            between us, between the US and
Europe to separate Ukraine from
          
                  
            32:50
          
          
            its own choice that is on
future.
          
                  
            32:55
          
          
            Now in its 73rd year, to build
an Al's route, a deeply
          
                  
            32:58
          
          
            political in nature, its
foundations laid in the first
          
                  
            33:02
          
          
            phase of the Cold War. In
addition to Ukraine, pro
          
                  
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            democracy protests in Iran will
also feature at the festival.
          
                  
            33:11
          
          
            Guests from the world of show
business and politics shared the
          
                  
            33:14
          
          
            red carpets with Iranian
demonstrators. This year 19
          
                  
            33:19
          
          
            films will be competing for the
golden and silverbear awards.
          
                  
            33:24
          
          
            Outside the main competition,
films do to be screened cover
          
                  
            33:27
          
          
            topics from race and history in
the US to gender transition and
          
                  
            33:31
          
          
            sexual identity.
          
                  
            33:32
          
          
            Adam Curry: Oh man, I can't
believe we missed that Film
          
                  
            33:34
          
          
            Festival. Sounds like some
great, great submissions this
          
                  
            33:38
          
          
            year. Gender identity,
          
                  
            33:41
          
          
            John C Dvorak: LGBTQ, there's
nothing more entertaining than
          
                  
            33:43
          
          
            that.
          
                  
            33:45
          
          
            Adam Curry: One other thing
happened at the low business.
          
                  
            33:50
          
          
            Somehow they still have this,
this feeble idea that we can
          
                  
            33:53
          
          
            reach the people and convince
them through celebrities and
          
                  
            33:56
          
          
            show business. I think that left
somewhere mid pandemic
          
                  
            34:00
          
          
            worldwide. People are not just
not interested anymore. But what
          
                  
            34:06
          
          
            else happened at the Munich
Security Conference is the the
          
                  
            34:10
          
          
            canceled meeting between Abe
Lincoln and Louis I think it is
          
                  
            34:15
          
          
            the Secretary of State for China
kind of took place but there
          
                  
            34:20
          
          
            were some jabs back and forth.
          
                  
            34:21
          
          
            Unknown: US Secretary of State
Antony Blinken met with his
          
                  
            34:24
          
          
            Chinese counterpart Randy during
the global security conference.
          
                  
            34:29
          
          
            This is the first face to face
meeting between the two leaders
          
                  
            34:32
          
          
            since the US military shut down
a suspected Chinese surveillance
          
                  
            34:36
          
          
            balloon earlier this month.
taking to Twitter Blinken said
          
                  
            34:40
          
          
            that he warned Vandy against
violations of its airspace after
          
                  
            34:44
          
          
            a Chinese spy balloon flew over
North America. Lincoln further
          
                  
            34:48
          
          
            asserted on how it was
unacceptable and irresponsible
          
                  
            34:52
          
          
            for China to send a spy balloon
into the American airspace.
          
                  
            34:56
          
          
            Earlier on Saturday, Vandy took
a swipe at Washington a accusing
          
                  
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            him of violating international
norms with what Beijing calls
          
                  
            35:04
          
          
            unbelievable and almost
hysterical behavior. Beijing has
          
                  
            35:08
          
          
            also denied using spy balloons
and says that the balloon was
          
                  
            35:12
          
          
            the weather research.
          
                  
            35:13
          
          
            Adam Curry: So you want you have
to go to W IO n to get this
          
                  
            35:17
          
          
            information. I don't think we'd
hear anywhere in the US media
          
                  
            35:21
          
          
            that the Chinese Foreign
Secretary said, Man, this is
          
                  
            35:24
          
          
            like you're hysterical, is just
hysterical behavior. Stop it you
          
                  
            35:29
          
          
            woman. That's basically what he
said. And added to that it was a
          
                  
            35:32
          
          
            weather balloon, which we also
have an All I heard was oh, the
          
                  
            35:35
          
          
            Chinese said, sorry. No, it was
it. They say they say clearly
          
                  
            35:39
          
          
            it's a weather balloon. So what
is it?
          
                  
            35:45
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Versus or dig in
pieces of it up? Or trying to
          
                  
            35:48
          
          
            from the bottom of the 40 or 40
feet down? It's not that far.
          
                  
            35:54
          
          
            We'll find out I think that
they've been just been going on
          
                  
            35:57
          
          
            for a while now. So I think it's
been I think the information is
          
                  
            35:59
          
          
            being suppressed.
          
                  
            36:00
          
          
            Adam Curry: Yeah, we'll find
out, huh? Sure. I
          
                  
            36:03
          
          
            John C Dvorak: said this
information is being suppressed.
          
                  
            36:05
          
          
            Adam Curry: I got a note from
same producer who told me about
          
                  
            36:09
          
          
            the Why the f 22. did what it
did. And by the way, the F 22 is
          
                  
            36:18
          
          
            the most sophisticated aircraft
I mean, this this, this whole F
          
                  
            36:21
          
          
            22 was almost the way I picked
it up as a sales job. Hey, look
          
                  
            36:25
          
          
            what our plane can do, we can
shoot balloons. The PRC balloon
          
                  
            36:31
          
          
            engagement was at the ragged
edge of the F 20. Twos
          
                  
            36:34
          
          
            operational envelope that means
the altitude the higher altitude
          
                  
            36:38
          
          
            is harder for the airframe to
maneuver. Therefore, that
          
                  
            36:42
          
          
            engagement required one Mach 1.3
The other engagements in order
          
                  
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            to fly because there's almost no
almost no air up there, you need
          
                  
            36:52
          
          
            speed, and otherwise, you're
going to fall out of the sky. So
          
                  
            36:55
          
          
            that's why the Mach 1.3 The
other engagements weren't much
          
                  
            36:59
          
          
            slower speeds since they were at
lower altitudes, but still too
          
                  
            37:01
          
          
            dangerous to use guns for the
aforementioned reason, because
          
                  
            37:05
          
          
            you could actually wind up
flying through the debris at
          
                  
            37:09
          
          
            that speed. A pilot, our sources
told me that the F 22 Not being
          
                  
            37:14
          
          
            able to use guns above 50,000
feet. I'd say look for some
          
                  
            37:19
          
          
            other references, but pilots
were too busy creaming
          
                  
            37:21
          
          
            themselves over robbed
demonstration of air power. See,
          
                  
            37:24
          
          
            this is what it was it was a
sales job. But it appears that
          
                  
            37:29
          
          
            you just can't use the guns at
50,000 feet because you're going
          
                  
            37:32
          
          
            too fast and you have to fly
fast to stay afloat. Or
          
                  
            37:35
          
          
            airborne.
          
                  
            37:36
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well, well, this
these random assertions are one
          
                  
            37:40
          
          
            thing I can't it's
          
                  
            37:41
          
          
            Adam Curry: not a random
assertion is from someone who.
          
                  
            37:44
          
          
            Okay. Yes, you contacted who
          
                  
            37:47
          
          
            John C Dvorak: is the Defense
Department
          
                  
            37:49
          
          
            Adam Curry: where you get the
truth. Did you talk to Kirby say
          
                  
            37:52
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I was gonna get
the truth. I also contacted
          
                  
            37:55
          
          
            Lockheed and the woman to watch
to be on vacation over the
          
                  
            38:01
          
          
            holiday. Yeah, the Defense
Department said that information
          
                  
            38:03
          
          
            is classified?
          
                  
            38:04
          
          
            Adam Curry: No, of course it's F
22. We can we can It's
          
                  
            38:07
          
          
            classified.
          
                  
            38:09
          
          
            John C Dvorak: That plane is 25
years old. How long is it going
          
                  
            38:13
          
          
            to be? How long is everything
going to remain class?
          
                  
            38:15
          
          
            Adam Curry: The F 22. I thought
the F 22 was like the brand new
          
                  
            38:18
          
          
            hardship machine. Yeah. That's
25 years it
          
                  
            38:22
          
          
            John C Dvorak: is. Doesn't mean
it's new.
          
                  
            38:27
          
          
            Adam Curry: Are you sure this is
a fifth Gen?
          
                  
            38:30
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well, the fifth
Gen. Yeah, they keep upgrading.
          
                  
            38:32
          
          
            Yeah, I'm not saying it's the
same version they made 25 years
          
                  
            38:35
          
          
            ago.
          
                  
            38:36
          
          
            Adam Curry: Okay. All right. So
my answer versus yours. I have
          
                  
            38:41
          
          
            an answer you get It's
classified. No, that makes
          
                  
            38:44
          
          
            sense. Right, I'd have
          
                  
            38:48
          
          
            John C Dvorak: to assume that
there's I don't know why they
          
                  
            38:51
          
          
            just does this make I told that
fact the second guy got a hold
          
                  
            38:54
          
          
            of me and he said he wanted to
try to get me some answers, but
          
                  
            38:59
          
          
            he couldn't do it.
          
                  
            39:02
          
          
            Adam Curry: Right on cue we have
China also being dicks to our
          
                  
            39:06
          
          
            neighbors to the north. This was
a big story big story in in
          
                  
            39:12
          
          
            Canada, if people send me links
about it the whole time.
          
                  
            39:18
          
          
            Unknown: It was exactly the
result Beijing wanted
          
                  
            39:21
          
          
            you or sending us back to work,
at least
          
                  
            39:23
          
          
            according to a Globe and Mail
report. It said top secret CSIS
          
                  
            39:28
          
          
            documents detailing Beijing's
sophisticated strategy to
          
                  
            39:32
          
          
            influence the 2021 election.
According to the report, China
          
                  
            39:36
          
          
            targeted specific conservative
candidates in hopes of a liberal
          
                  
            39:40
          
          
            minority government.
          
                  
            39:41
          
          
            Justin Trudeau knew about this
interference.
          
                  
            39:44
          
          
            The opposition accuses the prime
minister of covering it up
          
                  
            39:48
          
          
            Adam Curry: he is perfectly
happy to let a foreign
          
                  
            39:51
          
          
            authoritarian government
interfere in our elections as
          
                  
            39:54
          
          
            long as they're helping him.
          
                  
            39:56
          
          
            Unknown: Trudeau said he's never
hidden China's attempts to
          
                  
            39:59
          
          
            interfere You're we have,
          
                  
            40:02
          
          
            like I said, known for a long
time that China and others
          
                  
            40:09
          
          
            engage in foreign interference
in Canada, including during our
          
                  
            40:12
          
          
            elections.
          
                  
            40:14
          
          
            Adam Curry: People are upset
about this. Rightfully so.
          
                  
            40:23
          
          
            John C Dvorak: And right, are
they why don't they just vote
          
                  
            40:25
          
          
            this guy out then? No, because
          
                  
            40:27
          
          
            Adam Curry: there was they can't
because the election fraud was
          
                  
            40:31
          
          
            was manipulated by China. They
said it's impossible. When when
          
                  
            40:37
          
          
            Russia does it to us Trump wins.
You know, when when China does
          
                  
            40:39
          
          
            it to Canadians. Trudeau wins.
It's, it's it always works.
          
                  
            40:48
          
          
            Apparently. Anyway, right on cue
China as if they are playing
          
                  
            40:53
          
          
            along with the script does this
          
                  
            40:55
          
          
            Unknown: tonight tensions rising
after the US National Security
          
                  
            40:58
          
          
            Council says North Korea
launched an intercontinental
          
                  
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            ballistic missile that landed in
Japanese waters. This new video
          
                  
            41:07
          
          
            released earlier today showing
what Japanese military officials
          
                  
            41:10
          
          
            say appears to be a missile
falling from the sky. This is an
          
                  
            41:14
          
          
            outrageous act which escalates
application against
          
                  
            41:18
          
          
            international such a piece of
symmetry unacceptable. The
          
                  
            41:23
          
          
            United States also strongly
condemning North Korea, saying
          
                  
            41:27
          
          
            this launch is a flagrant
violation of multiple UN
          
                  
            41:30
          
          
            Security Council Resolution.
Japanese officials say the
          
                  
            41:33
          
          
            missile was launched from the
suburbs of Pyongyang flying for
          
                  
            41:37
          
          
            nearly 66 minutes and roughly
560 miles before falling into
          
                  
            41:42
          
          
            the Japanese exclusive economic
zone west of the island of
          
                  
            41:45
          
          
            Hokkaido. So far no reports of
ships or aircraft damaged.
          
                  
            41:50
          
          
            What's extraordinary about this
video is that you can see the
          
                  
            41:53
          
          
            actual flames when it zooms in
on the missile body falling.
          
                  
            41:57
          
          
            That's just that this came
awfully close to landing on
          
                  
            42:01
          
          
            Japanese soil.
          
                  
            42:03
          
          
            Officials say today's launch is
the first ICBM test since back
          
                  
            42:08
          
          
            in November, when North Korea
fired the powerful class on 17
          
                  
            42:12
          
          
            ICBM.
          
                  
            42:14
          
          
            Adam Curry: So I think we're
probably going to kick this off
          
                  
            42:16
          
          
            earlier than 2027. I mean,
that's also a little bit of
          
                  
            42:22
          
          
            wishful thinking, because I'd
like to retire before 2027 from
          
                  
            42:26
          
          
            the show.
          
                  
            42:27
          
          
            John C Dvorak: What do you
think's gonna happen in 2027?
          
                  
            42:29
          
          
            Would
          
                  
            42:29
          
          
            Adam Curry: you say oh, no,
that's what everyone's that's
          
                  
            42:31
          
          
            what the CIA guy the bill. The
bill, William Bill from the
          
                  
            42:37
          
          
            chiefs of CIA said China will
attack in 20 years
          
                  
            42:40
          
          
            John C Dvorak: because of some
something China's wrote or
          
                  
            42:43
          
          
            something we deciphered. 2027
Submit deal. Yeah. Which is
          
                  
            42:49
          
          
            doesn't really match with
anything else. But no cropping.
          
                  
            42:51
          
          
            Adam Curry: Because Because this
this Ukraine thing has to end
          
                  
            42:54
          
          
            and it seems like they're
positioning the money. We know
          
                  
            42:57
          
          
            where the money is going to. The
money is already there. We just
          
                  
            42:59
          
          
            have to make it legal. To take
it. And then we can start with
          
                  
            43:07
          
          
            then BlackRock and JP Morgan can
start rebuilding. And as the
          
                  
            43:12
          
          
            Lansky will do a big piece
thing. We'll do it in Minsk
          
                  
            43:15
          
          
            which sounds official. Putin
himself won't show up because he
          
                  
            43:20
          
          
            will be convicted once. Once
he's no longer they'll say, wow,
          
                  
            43:22
          
          
            you know, once he isn't elected
president again. Then he will be
          
                  
            43:27
          
          
            convicted and we'll throw him in
the brink so he'd be he'll be
          
                  
            43:30
          
          
            charged and convicted in
absentia, and we'll just keep
          
                  
            43:33
          
          
            doing news reports about how the
next election that's going to be
          
                  
            43:36
          
          
            the one that's gonna go pick him
up and he'll pay. I think they
          
                  
            43:40
          
          
            can sell this. I think they can
sell it. I think Zelinsky is
          
                  
            43:43
          
          
            he's a great actor. Give him
some lines. No problem. I
          
                  
            43:46
          
          
            John C Dvorak: got a line from
Zelinsky this one I went to
          
                  
            43:49
          
          
            Lenski clip. Oh.
          
                  
            43:51
          
          
            Adam Curry: Hold on. Here we go.
          
                  
            43:54
          
          
            Unknown: There is no alternative
to speed. Because it is the
          
                  
            43:58
          
          
            speed that the life depends on
          
                  
            44:03
          
          
            Adam Curry: the speed
          
                  
            44:05
          
          
            John C Dvorak: alternatives to
spit.
          
                  
            44:10
          
          
            Adam Curry: There was
          
                  
            44:11
          
          
            John C Dvorak: was this guy
gonna get a voice coach.
          
                  
            44:14
          
          
            Adam Curry: I think this is
actually better than it was. I
          
                  
            44:17
          
          
            think he's, I think he's doing
better. I had one to somewhere
          
                  
            44:20
          
          
            that someone sent me that I
normally would not have played
          
                  
            44:24
          
          
            except you played that listen to
this.
          
                  
            44:26
          
          
            Unknown: Come in the name of
peace.
          
                  
            44:31
          
          
            Adam Curry: Did you see that
one? Come in the name of Chris.
          
                  
            44:34
          
          
            All right. There you go. He's
kind of entertaining. It's
          
                  
            44:43
          
          
            entertaining me. All right. I'm
sweating. Now what you got you
          
                  
            44:48
          
          
            got to hold it. You got like
this whole row of things.
          
                  
            44:52
          
          
            John C Dvorak: My stuff's all
domestic.
          
                  
            44:53
          
          
            Adam Curry: Now. Well, that's
good. I'm tired of this foreign
          
                  
            44:56
          
          
            stuff.
          
                  
            45:00
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I do have a
couple just to be clear if I do
          
                  
            45:02
          
          
            have an atom and you do I do,
do. I do have a clip that's
          
                  
            45:08
          
          
            called Adam and NTD hate where I
can kind of understand why you
          
                  
            45:12
          
          
            hate and TD so much. Okay, I'll
play
          
                  
            45:15
          
          
            Unknown: another train
derailment more hazardous
          
                  
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            materials. Same company, a
Norfolk Southern train carrying
          
                  
            45:21
          
          
            hazardous materials derailed
outside of Detroit, Michigan
          
                  
            45:24
          
          
            yesterday morning. Six train
cars crashed off the tracks in
          
                  
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            Van Buren township just before
9am local time.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Now, why would I
hate that?
          
                  
            45:34
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Oh, so you also
pronounce it Nora Falk?
          
                  
            45:40
          
          
            Adam Curry: This is Dee Dee. I
tried to Norfolk that didn't, it
          
                  
            45:46
          
          
            really doesn't bother me.
Listen, we just listened to
          
                  
            45:48
          
          
            Zelinsky say, come with this. So
I think norfork is acceptable.
          
                  
            45:53
          
          
            In this case.
          
                  
            45:54
          
          
            John C Dvorak: For people out
there who want to know is
          
                  
            45:56
          
          
            pronounced Norfolk Norfolk.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Yeah, I probably
have the most stories about
          
                  
            46:02
          
          
            Norfolk.
          
                  
            46:04
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Let's go to Mike.
Yeah. All right. What you got?
          
                  
            46:07
          
          
            Okay, so there was this train
wreck? They can't get off Trump.
          
                  
            46:12
          
          
            No, it's very hard. And so the
thing is, is that listening to
          
                  
            46:17
          
          
            NPR, I got two series of clips
are all from NPR. And NPR has
          
                  
            46:21
          
          
            become, it's become first once
they last, when I fold it became
          
                  
            46:27
          
          
            partisan became shit this and
really went down. And we've
          
                  
            46:30
          
          
            never seen one. And we never
thought we would we would miss
          
                  
            46:33
          
          
            Gwen Eiffel that much wrestling.
We didn't know we did. But you
          
                  
            46:36
          
          
            could tell us that when when
that one important person leaves
          
                  
            46:39
          
          
            and that everything changes. You
know that one person? That was
          
                  
            46:43
          
          
            the person that was keeping it
together when Eiffel? Yes. And
          
                  
            46:46
          
          
            then Judy came along, and she's
just like some sort of a lackey
          
                  
            46:50
          
          
            for the Democrats. But when she
left now, it's worse. Now you're
          
                  
            46:54
          
          
            talking about PBS or NPR now and
what EBS PBS just said, Okay, I
          
                  
            46:57
          
          
            thought you said I say NPR made
a mistake. I get it mixed up
          
                  
            47:00
          
          
            with the fact that Gwen aifa was
never really with NPR. She's
          
                  
            47:04
          
          
            always PPS. And she's an old pro
from the network's Yes, she was.
          
                  
            47:09
          
          
            It was Judy. But Judy was
          
                  
            47:11
          
          
            Adam Curry: the problem we had
with Gwen IFO. The reason why we
          
                  
            47:14
          
          
            turned on her, stupidly, was
because and I learned a new
          
                  
            47:18
          
          
            word. This is years and years
and years ago, because she wrote
          
                  
            47:21
          
          
            a hagiography of Barack Obama.
Yeah. And that was it was so
          
                  
            47:26
          
          
            wrong for her stature. But we
should have, we should have let
          
                  
            47:30
          
          
            that slide because now we missed
well, then
          
                  
            47:32
          
          
            John C Dvorak: she became the
host of a debate with Obama up
          
                  
            47:35
          
          
            there. Yeah,
          
                  
            47:37
          
          
            Adam Curry: that was that was,
yeah, she was captured and it
          
                  
            47:39
          
          
            sucked.
          
                  
            47:40
          
          
            John C Dvorak: But she was still
kept going. And so now we've
          
                  
            47:43
          
          
            got, I think the group is pretty
much turned progressive, and
          
                  
            47:48
          
          
            gay.
          
                  
            47:52
          
          
            Adam Curry: And the difference
is,
          
                  
            47:54
          
          
            John C Dvorak: well, it's just
makes it worse. They date they,
          
                  
            47:57
          
          
            they're more blatant. Their
coverage is really so slanted. I
          
                  
            48:01
          
          
            want to play these clips. This
is more or less about the
          
                  
            48:04
          
          
            Georgia coming back from their
grand jury. And oh, and Trump
          
                  
            48:09
          
          
            was you know, mentioned but you
know, Trump didn't really do
          
                  
            48:11
          
          
            anything, but he, he could have,
          
                  
            48:14
          
          
            Adam Curry: what am I what do
you owe the Georgia vote thing?
          
                  
            48:18
          
          
            What is this about?
          
                  
            48:19
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well, there was
a, there isn't it was a number
          
                  
            48:22
          
          
            of factors. But this all gets
back down to Trump's claims
          
                  
            48:29
          
          
            about election fraud. Okay. Now,
they use a loaded language,
          
                  
            48:37
          
          
            these clips are all very short,
because I have to stop them
          
                  
            48:39
          
          
            after the guy says three words.
But let's go to the word Trump's
          
                  
            48:45
          
          
            claims and change it to Trump's
false claims. And this has
          
                  
            48:49
          
          
            bugged me to know and for years
now, what is a false claim?
          
                  
            48:57
          
          
            asking you a false claim. I'm
going to say this. I'm going to
          
                  
            49:03
          
          
            make the claim that you dyed
your hair black, somebody told
          
                  
            49:08
          
          
            me that and so I'm claiming your
hair your hair is dyed black,
          
                  
            49:12
          
          
            right?
          
                  
            49:12
          
          
            Adam Curry: So you are you are
claiming something that doesn't
          
                  
            49:15
          
          
            mean that you have proof. And I
understand what you're saying.
          
                  
            49:19
          
          
            So a false claim would be if you
said I'm dyeing my I dye my hair
          
                  
            49:24
          
          
            black, but you actually thought
it was blonde. That'd be a false
          
                  
            49:28
          
          
            claim. But that will be inside
your head. There is really no
          
                  
            49:30
          
          
            such thing as a false claim.
It's a claim.
          
                  
            49:34
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what
I think it's a claim unless
          
                  
            49:37
          
          
            you're totally insincere. Right?
In other words, if Trump's
          
                  
            49:41
          
          
            claiming and by the way, this
information that these clips
          
                  
            49:43
          
          
            mostly come out of the Dominion
lawsuit against Fox News,
          
                  
            49:48
          
          
            Adam Curry: ah, yes, this is the
big one. Okay, got it. So
          
                  
            49:51
          
          
            Dominion
          
                  
            49:51
          
          
            John C Dvorak: sues Fox News.
And as we all know, if we know
          
                  
            49:54
          
          
            anything, that there's a thing
called discovery and that's why
          
                  
            49:59
          
          
            people try it. Avoid suits.
Yeah. So Dominion started
          
                  
            50:03
          
          
            digging and digging and digging,
and they got a bunch of
          
                  
            50:05
          
          
            information that indicated that
some people at Fox were
          
                  
            50:10
          
          
            insincere during this era when
that during the election 2020
          
                  
            50:16
          
          
            election and they were saying
one thing to the viewer is a
          
                  
            50:20
          
          
            public Yes. And they were lying.
          
                  
            50:24
          
          
            Adam Curry: This is the Fox News
takedown that we talked about on
          
                  
            50:27
          
          
            the last show Tucker Carlson
texting with Frau Ingraham and
          
                  
            50:32
          
          
            talking about Sidney Powell
being a nutjob.
          
                  
            50:37
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well, here's the
report of this. From NPR. I'm
          
                  
            50:44
          
          
            sorry, I did it. You're gonna
have to excuse me for doing
          
                  
            50:47
          
          
            that. But from PBS. I got NPR on
here too. It's all PBS.
          
                  
            50:52
          
          
            Adam Curry: Oh, okay. You were
confusing me? Yes. It's all PBS
          
                  
            50:54
          
          
            got it. That's why
          
                  
            50:56
          
          
            John C Dvorak: it's all PBS. I
don't have any NPR clips on
          
                  
            50:58
          
          
            today's show. So this is the way
it starts. And here they're
          
                  
            51:01
          
          
            gonna get into this the suit and
they think they've got Fox over
          
                  
            51:05
          
          
            a barrel. And here we go.
          
                  
            51:07
          
          
            Unknown: A new point filing
shows top executives at Fox News
          
                  
            51:10
          
          
            and leading network
personalities privately
          
                  
            51:12
          
          
            dismissed former President
Donald Trump's false claims of
          
                  
            51:16
          
          
            voter fraud in the days that
followed the 2020 presidential
          
                  
            51:19
          
          
            election.
          
                  
            51:20
          
          
            Adam Curry: Yeah, here. I see. I
see what you're what you're
          
                  
            51:23
          
          
            pointing at false claims just
just claims you could just say
          
                  
            51:26
          
          
            claims.
          
                  
            51:27
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's
journalistically, I think, and
          
                  
            51:30
          
          
            wrongly and everything is wrong.
          
                  
            51:32
          
          
            Adam Curry: It's like they
should have said claim without
          
                  
            51:34
          
          
            evidence.
          
                  
            51:36
          
          
            John C Dvorak: That would, that
would be even better. But false
          
                  
            51:40
          
          
            claims is loaded language
designed to make you look make
          
                  
            51:44
          
          
            Trump look like a jerk. But this
clip, they start off with just
          
                  
            51:48
          
          
            the premise. This is the whole
premise. Roseanne wants to play
          
                  
            51:51
          
          
            this short clip play one more
time.
          
                  
            51:53
          
          
            Adam Curry: Oh, number one one
more time. Yeah, okay.
          
                  
            51:56
          
          
            Unknown: A new court filing
shows top executives at Fox News
          
                  
            51:59
          
          
            and leading network
personalities privately
          
                  
            52:01
          
          
            dismissed former President
Donald Trump's false claims of
          
                  
            52:05
          
          
            voter fraud in the days that
followed the 2020 presidential
          
                  
            52:08
          
          
            election,
          
                  
            52:09
          
          
            Adam Curry: which to me, is I
heard all of this all week long
          
                  
            52:13
          
          
            on MSNBC, CNN, et cetera, was
really them trying to take down
          
                  
            52:19
          
          
            Fox News, the clear winners in
any ratings race by any, any
          
                  
            52:23
          
          
            observation? Yeah, any measure
is,
          
                  
            52:26
          
          
            John C Dvorak: they do mention
that in passing, so. Okay, now
          
                  
            52:31
          
          
            we're gonna that would you just
heard the premise. Yep.
          
                  
            52:33
          
          
            Throughout this report, which go
I only have parts of it. The
          
                  
            52:37
          
          
            whole thing, they never bring
out any evidence, and then they
          
                  
            52:39
          
          
            finally bring out two examples.
And both both these examples are
          
                  
            52:42
          
          
            bad. But let's go to now this is
clip number two of the series,
          
                  
            52:46
          
          
            Unknown: even as they pushed
those same lies on television.
          
                  
            52:50
          
          
            Nice.
          
                  
            52:52
          
          
            John C Dvorak: So, okay, now all
of a sudden, the false claim is,
          
                  
            52:56
          
          
            as long as the lie
          
                  
            53:01
          
          
            Adam Curry: I like it. I like
it.
          
                  
            53:03
          
          
            John C Dvorak: So this is where
they're headed. This is the kind
          
                  
            53:05
          
          
            of loaded report we're now
getting from news our nice, it's
          
                  
            53:09
          
          
            slanted as hell and is loaded
with it's got loaded language is
          
                  
            53:13
          
          
            very poorly done. Let's go to
Okay, let's go to number three.
          
                  
            53:16
          
          
            And this one, this is where this
this is actually not them
          
                  
            53:19
          
          
            talking. These are clips that
supposedly exemplify this, but
          
                  
            53:24
          
          
            they don't. They don't exemplify
the hypocrisy that they're
          
                  
            53:27
          
          
            claiming. they exemplify the
kind of the narrative that
          
                  
            53:30
          
          
            they're pushing. And here's a
clip from Fox that they played
          
                  
            53:33
          
          
            tonight. Every American
          
                  
            53:35
          
          
            Unknown: should be angry, you
should be outraged. You should
          
                  
            53:38
          
          
            be worried you should be
concerned. What has happened in
          
                  
            53:41
          
          
            the election,
          
                  
            53:42
          
          
            the Dominion software system has
been tagged as one allegedly
          
                  
            53:46
          
          
            capable of flipping votes.
          
                  
            53:49
          
          
            How for example, did senile
hermit Joe Biden get 15 million
          
                  
            53:54
          
          
            more votes than his former boss,
Rockstar, crowd surfer Barack
          
                  
            53:58
          
          
            Obama.
          
                  
            54:00
          
          
            Adam Curry: Rockstar crowd
surfer.
          
                  
            54:04
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Now, that last
clip, which was Tucker Carlson,
          
                  
            54:09
          
          
            was from Thursday of last week,
          
                  
            54:11
          
          
            Adam Curry: yes, but we might as
well use it now.
          
                  
            54:15
          
          
            John C Dvorak: So it's got
nothing to do with this case,
          
                  
            54:17
          
          
            which is about the election two
years ago. So why are they
          
                  
            54:22
          
          
            playing these clips now that
they continue to kind of push
          
                  
            54:26
          
          
            the same narrative which does
just I don't know. That doesn't
          
                  
            54:29
          
          
            prove that Tucker was saying
well, I Trump's full of shit. He
          
                  
            54:34
          
          
            never does that Daniel crew it
throughout this entire report.
          
                  
            54:37
          
          
            Well, they just asserting it.
          
                  
            54:39
          
          
            Adam Curry: Can I can I make an
assertion of my own, which could
          
                  
            54:41
          
          
            be a false claim? Because you
mentioned discovery. And what I
          
                  
            54:46
          
          
            picked up not a clip but I just
picked up some reports. That
          
                  
            54:50
          
          
            Dominion discovery documents
show employees of Dominion
          
                  
            54:54
          
          
            admitting their products are
quote, riddled with critical
          
                  
            54:59
          
          
            bugs that could due to incorrect
results, maybe the Navy that has
          
                  
            55:03
          
          
            to be shut down a little bit.
          
                  
            55:06
          
          
            John C Dvorak: By going in the
other direction you think it's
          
                  
            55:08
          
          
            maybe it's just a thought I
shouldn't bring that point up in
          
                  
            55:12
          
          
            this report that's going to clip
for
          
                  
            55:13
          
          
            Unknown: the court filings
reveal that behind the scenes,
          
                  
            55:16
          
          
            many of the network's top stars
and executives. derided Trump's
          
                  
            55:20
          
          
            election lies is quote, mind
blowingly nuts and quote totally
          
                  
            55:24
          
          
            off the rails, even as they
criticized colleagues for
          
                  
            55:27
          
          
            pointing that out on TV. The
filing is part of an ongoing
          
                  
            55:31
          
          
            defamation lawsuit filed against
the network by Dominion voting
          
                  
            55:34
          
          
            systems.
          
                  
            55:37
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Okay, what name
names? I heard that quote who
          
                  
            55:42
          
          
            you quoting people named Anna,
who said these things?
          
                  
            55:46
          
          
            Adam Curry: Surely they say that
somewhere else don't say or the
          
                  
            55:48
          
          
            lower third Chiron that said has
nope, no,
          
                  
            55:50
          
          
            John C Dvorak: nope, nope. And
nope. Let's go to I'm just
          
                  
            55:56
          
          
            waiting for the names. Where's
the names you give me a day
          
                  
            55:59
          
          
            finally bring some stuff out.
But it's got nothing to do with
          
                  
            56:01
          
          
            what their assertion is. Let's
go to clip six.
          
                  
            56:03
          
          
            Unknown: Joining us now is David
Falk.
          
                  
            56:05
          
          
            Adam Curry: And I'm sorry, this
is clip five is not the right
          
                  
            56:06
          
          
            one. Yes, five. Joining us
          
                  
            56:08
          
          
            Unknown: now is David
Folkenflik. Who covers for NPR.
          
                  
            56:11
          
          
            David, thanks for joining us.
First explain how we learned
          
                  
            56:15
          
          
            about these text messages how
they're part of this nearly $2
          
                  
            56:19
          
          
            billion defamation lawsuit filed
against Fox right. It's a
          
                  
            56:24
          
          
            blockbuster case that's been
filed by Dominion voting
          
                  
            56:27
          
          
            services systems, an election
tech company that is at the core
          
                  
            56:32
          
          
            of a lot of these fraudulent
claims of fraud
          
                  
            56:37
          
          
            Adam Curry: fraudulently claims
          
                  
            56:38
          
          
            John C Dvorak: of fraud.
          
                  
            56:41
          
          
            Adam Curry: So that actually
means that it is fraud because
          
                  
            56:43
          
          
            it's a fraudulent claim of fraud
than it was. Then it was not
          
                  
            56:47
          
          
            fraud, but it was fraud.
          
                  
            56:49
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I don't know. I
tell you this is folk and folk
          
                  
            56:53
          
          
            whatever this guy's name is. I
looked him up I think that's
          
                  
            56:56
          
          
            German guy has a hard on from
Rupert Murdoch, like nobody he
          
                  
            57:00
          
          
            shouldn't even be allowed to be
on TV focus. And I was thinking
          
                  
            57:03
          
          
            about this because if you look
at his all his old works, he's
          
                  
            57:06
          
          
            just after Murdoch. He hates
Murdoch
          
                  
            57:08
          
          
            Adam Curry: hates him. And who
is this guy who what is he is?
          
                  
            57:12
          
          
            John C Dvorak: He's a he's just
a kind of a hack journalist has
          
                  
            57:15
          
          
            been doing? Not a lot.
          
                  
            57:19
          
          
            Adam Curry: I'm reading I'm
reading the discovery. And I'll
          
                  
            57:21
          
          
            just I'll Intersperse your
report with a few brief things
          
                  
            57:24
          
          
            Mark Beck strand. This is from
the discovery document, Mark
          
                  
            57:27
          
          
            Beck strand, who probably has
sex with Folkenflik but Dominion
          
                  
            57:31
          
          
            sales manager confirmed that
other parties have gotten a hold
          
                  
            57:35
          
          
            of Dominions equipment illicitly
in the past, and identified
          
                  
            57:38
          
          
            specific instances in Georgia
and North Carolina and testified
          
                  
            57:41
          
          
            that a Dominion machine was
hacked in Michigan. This is in
          
                  
            57:44
          
          
            the discovery so it's not such a
wonder that this this is
          
                  
            57:48
          
          
            happening
          
                  
            57:51
          
          
            John C Dvorak: to these guys so
this is a key while you're there
          
                  
            57:53
          
          
            you have here is it this is a
smokescreen for the real story,
          
                  
            57:56
          
          
            which probably is cover up Yeah.
But meanwhile so this is Falken
          
                  
            58:00
          
          
            guy I was thinking about this
because he just had you can look
          
                  
            58:03
          
          
            at his old material and because
he's you know, it's on the net.
          
                  
            58:07
          
          
            And it's just hard on for for
Murdoch, like there's no
          
                  
            58:10
          
          
            tomorrow, I have to assume
because I've seen this happen
          
                  
            58:13
          
          
            here and there. And I have
examples of it from real life
          
                  
            58:19
          
          
            situations in the Bay Area with
guys who tried to get a job
          
                  
            58:22
          
          
            someplace got refused or kicked
out or said no and they get out
          
                  
            58:27
          
          
            there on the rampage against the
company. And so they're just so
          
                  
            58:31
          
          
            I think that's what's going on
with this guy. So he's useless
          
                  
            58:34
          
          
            as a as a correspondent in this
in this arena. It was proudly
          
                  
            58:38
          
          
            fraudulent claims of fraud with
this beat. Well, let's question
          
                  
            58:43
          
          
            Adam Curry: Do you think it's
possible fraudulent frame cloud
          
                  
            58:45
          
          
            claims of fraud? Do you think
it's possible that really all
          
                  
            58:48
          
          
            they want is just one thing they
just want Tucker Carlson off the
          
                  
            58:52
          
          
            air?
          
                  
            58:54
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I think that's a
big part. It's
          
                  
            58:55
          
          
            Adam Curry: gotta be Sean
Hannity is is basically he's
          
                  
            58:58
          
          
            harmless. Frau Ingraham is the
same. They go after both of them
          
                  
            59:01
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I know what their
next human products entertained
          
                  
            59:04
          
          
            next two clips are they go after
Tucker and this is the example
          
                  
            59:08
          
          
            they cite. This is a read of
some memo they cite of Tucker.
          
                  
            59:13
          
          
            Showing that he's a phony. Oh, I
don't see it. I want you to
          
                  
            59:17
          
          
            listen to this and tell me what
it what makes you think he's a
          
                  
            59:19
          
          
            phony. This clip seven clip six.
Oh, okay. What did we get to?
          
                  
            59:24
          
          
            Adam Curry: I'm off Folkenflik
one more time. So shortly. Okay,
          
                  
            59:27
          
          
            John C Dvorak: let's go back
with Folkenflik fraudulent
          
                  
            59:30
          
          
            claims
          
                  
            59:30
          
          
            Unknown: of fraud that were
ventilated on Fox News in the
          
                  
            59:33
          
          
            immediate aftermath of the
November 2020 elections.
          
                  
            59:38
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Okay, kept adding
because their use of the word
          
                  
            59:41
          
          
            ventilated.
          
                  
            59:43
          
          
            Adam Curry: Ooh, a kind of like
that.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: fraudulent claims
of fraud that were ventilated. I
          
                  
            59:50
          
          
            think he meant vented. But I
liked the whole sequence
          
                  
            59:53
          
          
            fraudulent
          
                  
            59:53
          
          
            Unknown: claims of fraud that
were ventilated on Fox News in
          
                  
            59:57
          
          
            the immediate aftermath.
          
                  
            59:58
          
          
            Adam Curry: This is what you
should try Your wife, you know,
          
                  
            1:00:01
          
          
            you're just ventilating
fraudulent claims of fraud. See
          
                  
            1:00:05
          
          
            how that works? Yeah, your
marriage works out.
          
                  
            1:00:08
          
          
            John C Dvorak: It did all these
clips are just to point out the
          
                  
            1:00:10
          
          
            bad journalism that you have
that you're getting from the
          
                  
            1:00:12
          
          
            nation's one of the nation's
treasures, and use our
          
                  
            1:00:16
          
          
            treasures. Yeah, it's really
out. It's out of control. But
          
                  
            1:00:18
          
          
            let's go into here's their
example about Tucker,
          
                  
            1:00:21
          
          
            Unknown: a brutal, brutal
portrait that we have seen about
          
                  
            1:00:24
          
          
            the cynicism, the sense of
crisis, the fear and the anger
          
                  
            1:00:29
          
          
            that was generated inside of
Fox, in reaction to their
          
                  
            1:00:34
          
          
            audiences recoiling from the
network's own call of Arizona
          
                  
            1:00:38
          
          
            for Joe Biden on election night,
the first of any major network
          
                  
            1:00:41
          
          
            to do
          
                  
            1:00:41
          
          
            so. What becomes clear from
reading through this filing is
          
                  
            1:00:45
          
          
            that Fox knowingly peddled
election lies for ratings.
          
                  
            1:00:48
          
          
            There's a text in particular
from Tucker Carlson, and he is
          
                  
            1:00:52
          
          
            suggesting here that a Fox News
White House correspondent should
          
                  
            1:00:55
          
          
            be fired. For fact checking a
Trump claim about the election.
          
                  
            1:01:00
          
          
            He says, Please get her fired.
I'm actually shocked. It needs
          
                  
            1:01:03
          
          
            to be stopped immediately. Like
tonight, it's measurably hurting
          
                  
            1:01:07
          
          
            the company, the stock price is
down. Not a joke.
          
                  
            1:01:11
          
          
            Adam Curry: Not a joke. He's
using Biden stuff now.
          
                  
            1:01:15
          
          
            John C Dvorak: So it shows there
was some woman on the staff that
          
                  
            1:01:18
          
          
            was doing the kip tech, typical
Washington Post style fact
          
                  
            1:01:23
          
          
            checking, oh, he said six and it
was actually seven fact check.
          
                  
            1:01:29
          
          
            So she was this she was doing
this and some Tucker said she
          
                  
            1:01:35
          
          
            did not a good look. But no,
          
                  
            1:01:38
          
          
            Adam Curry: that's very bad.
Look what he does.
          
                  
            1:01:40
          
          
            John C Dvorak: But what's it got
to do with the original premise
          
                  
            1:01:44
          
          
            that taught did nothing claim
that Tucker was saying that the
          
                  
            1:01:49
          
          
            election was fraudulent. But
behind everyone's back, he was
          
                  
            1:01:53
          
          
            saying no, Trump's nuts, it's
not fraudulent at all. How does
          
                  
            1:01:57
          
          
            that example prove that point?
          
                  
            1:01:59
          
          
            Adam Curry: It doesn't at all.
The only the only one I heard is
          
                  
            1:02:03
          
          
            probably the next clip that you
have. That's the only that's the
          
                  
            1:02:06
          
          
            only text message that could get
this
          
                  
            1:02:09
          
          
            John C Dvorak: next was an extra
day. I think they they actually
          
                  
            1:02:11
          
          
            Oh, no, this another text
message. This is about a Hannity
          
                  
            1:02:14
          
          
            now. Oh, I
          
                  
            1:02:15
          
          
            Adam Curry: thought this was
Powell.
          
                  
            1:02:16
          
          
            John C Dvorak: It's about
Hannity and Powell. No. Okay.
          
                  
            1:02:20
          
          
            And this is another did another
one of their examples. And
          
                  
            1:02:24
          
          
            again, I'm not seeing it play
this and you tell me how you're
          
                  
            1:02:28
          
          
            interpreting this because
Trump's not even in the
          
                  
            1:02:30
          
          
            conversation.
          
                  
            1:02:31
          
          
            Unknown: As Sean Hannity, even
as he was giving her airtime. He
          
                  
            1:02:35
          
          
            later said in a deposition,
quote, the whole narrative that
          
                  
            1:02:38
          
          
            Sidney Powell was pushing, I did
not believe it for one second.
          
                  
            1:02:45
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Oh, no. I
listened to Sidney Powell. I
          
                  
            1:02:49
          
          
            didn't believe anything she said
either. I also didn't believe
          
                  
            1:02:51
          
          
            Steve BitFenix. nonsense about
the military taken over anybody
          
                  
            1:02:58
          
          
            else. I thought I thought the
election was sketchy for other
          
                  
            1:03:02
          
          
            reasons. Like you know, people
not getting to go check on
          
                  
            1:03:06
          
          
            things Debellis disappearing,
ballot harvesting and things
          
                  
            1:03:09
          
          
            like that. You. So what they're
trying to imply here is that you
          
                  
            1:03:13
          
          
            have to be all in on everything.
So if you question Sidney
          
                  
            1:03:16
          
          
            Powell, you're a hypocrite.
          
                  
            1:03:19
          
          
            Adam Curry: Yes, that's what
they did with Tucker Tucker had
          
                  
            1:03:23
          
          
            a text back in exchange with
Frawley Ingraham from Ingraham
          
                  
            1:03:27
          
          
            says Powell was full of shit.
And then Tucker says, yeah,
          
                  
            1:03:31
          
          
            she's totally full of shit. And
what was it? And we need to not
          
                  
            1:03:37
          
          
            be putting her on the air
because people are people, our
          
                  
            1:03:41
          
          
            viewers, believe us. I mean, it
seems like Tucker is really he's
          
                  
            1:03:46
          
          
            very concerned for the for the
for the organization. Now that
          
                  
            1:03:49
          
          
            we have that talking about the
stock price being down. That's
          
                  
            1:03:54
          
          
            kind of that is actually more
telling about Tucker than I
          
                  
            1:03:58
          
          
            didn't expect that he would be
so concerned about the company.
          
                  
            1:04:02
          
          
            Folkenflik is the author of
Murdoch's world, the last of the
          
                  
            1:04:05
          
          
            old media empires. So he wrote
the book, he wrote the
          
                  
            1:04:11
          
          
            John C Dvorak: he's just so he's
no good that this whole report
          
                  
            1:04:14
          
          
            was bad. So the show the news,
our show keeps going on and they
          
                  
            1:04:17
          
          
            bring on late in the show.
Brooks and Capehart Oh, no. Oh,
          
                  
            1:04:24
          
          
            no. Two guys again, you know. So
they bring them on and they
          
                  
            1:04:29
          
          
            breathe, visit the topic.
          
                  
            1:04:31
          
          
            Unknown: It's time for the
analysis of Brooks and Capehart.
          
                  
            1:04:34
          
          
            That's New York Times columnist
David Brooks and Jonathan
          
                  
            1:04:37
          
          
            Capehart, associate editor for
The Washington Post with a
          
                  
            1:04:41
          
          
            welcome to you both. Let's start
with this revelation late last
          
                  
            1:04:44
          
          
            night in this court filing and
dominion voting systems lawsuit
          
                  
            1:04:47
          
          
            against Fox News is that showing
that Fox executives and hosts
          
                  
            1:04:52
          
          
            didn't believe the election lies
that they were peddling on
          
                  
            1:04:55
          
          
            television. David, what do you
make of this notion that Fox
          
                  
            1:04:59
          
          
            determined Is that telling the
truth and being straight with
          
                  
            1:05:02
          
          
            its vote with its viewers was
not good for its bottom line?
          
                  
            1:05:06
          
          
            Yeah, I don't know whether to
feel relieved or not that Tucker
          
                  
            1:05:08
          
          
            didn't really believe what he's
saying. Like, he maybe has some
          
                  
            1:05:11
          
          
            core and that's actually honest.
          
                  
            1:05:15
          
          
            Adam Curry: What? Donors, yeah,
          
                  
            1:05:19
          
          
            Unknown: that's a watch.
          
                  
            1:05:22
          
          
            John C Dvorak: He goes on takes
then picks up the cudgel and
          
                  
            1:05:25
          
          
            goes on with this thing that
Tucker was insincere about the
          
                  
            1:05:29
          
          
            company know about the election
fraud.
          
                  
            1:05:33
          
          
            Unknown: You know, all of us. I
mean, here in sainted PBS, we're
          
                  
            1:05:36
          
          
            gonna go after prophets. But at
the New York Times, and most
          
                  
            1:05:38
          
          
            other news organizations, we
have two missions, we want to
          
                  
            1:05:42
          
          
            sell the truth, we want to live
up to the ethics of our
          
                  
            1:05:44
          
          
            profession. We also want to
attract readers and serve our
          
                  
            1:05:47
          
          
            viewers and make money for our
company. And you know, dealing
          
                  
            1:05:51
          
          
            with that tension is not unique
doctors, do it, lawyers do it.
          
                  
            1:05:54
          
          
            And but until you find the
balance, and you try to hew to
          
                  
            1:05:58
          
          
            the code of your profession, and
do it the best you can and hope
          
                  
            1:06:02
          
          
            that readers will will
appreciate that at Fox, that's
          
                  
            1:06:04
          
          
            apparently not how it works.
          
                  
            1:06:09
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Can you believe
these guys?
          
                  
            1:06:12
          
          
            Adam Curry: I love it. I want to
have a drink with them. This is
          
                  
            1:06:15
          
          
            great.
          
                  
            1:06:16
          
          
            John C Dvorak: And by the way,
well, let's play the last one, I
          
                  
            1:06:18
          
          
            have a good comment about their
great ethics over there.
          
                  
            1:06:23
          
          
            Unknown: And that the ethos of
following the code of honesty or
          
                  
            1:06:26
          
          
            reporting, telling the truth,
which is our only job, our only
          
                  
            1:06:30
          
          
            job is just to tell the truth,
and not be partisan. That's our
          
                  
            1:06:33
          
          
            job. And if you can't do the
basics of the job, then pretty
          
                  
            1:06:40
          
          
            soon you you lose all Barrett
Warren more moral bearing. And I
          
                  
            1:06:43
          
          
            think not everybody that agency,
a lot of people really left but
          
                  
            1:06:47
          
          
            a lot of people who used to be
friends of mine. They lost all
          
                  
            1:06:51
          
          
            their moral bearing and shows.
          
                  
            1:06:53
          
          
            Adam Curry: And yeah, that
sounds like your friends. The
          
                  
            1:06:56
          
          
            Lib Jos lib Jos Yeah, that's
exactly what you would say,
          
                  
            1:06:59
          
          
            Unknown: but a lot of people who
used to be friends of mine, they
          
                  
            1:07:02
          
          
            lost all plans, crying and
shows.
          
                  
            1:07:05
          
          
            And Jonathan this, in many ways,
reaffirms what critics of Fox
          
                  
            1:07:09
          
          
            News have believed all along
that even though it has news in
          
                  
            1:07:12
          
          
            the title, that that is a thin
veneer at best.
          
                  
            1:07:17
          
          
            Yeah, very thin. It's more like
carpaccio, if you want to give a
          
                  
            1:07:20
          
          
            culinary analogy. Look, look
what this Dominion paper the
          
                  
            1:07:27
          
          
            filing shows is that the big the
big lie is indeed a big lie. And
          
                  
            1:07:32
          
          
            that the people who were
perpetuating it knew it was a
          
                  
            1:07:35
          
          
            lie. And yet they still went on
air night after night after
          
                  
            1:07:40
          
          
            night, perpetuating it to the
detriment of our country. And
          
                  
            1:07:46
          
          
            yeah, they they lost their
balance. They lost their moral
          
                  
            1:07:50
          
          
            core if any of them had any
          
                  
            1:07:53
          
          
            John C Dvorak: law. If any of
them had any. There are a bunch
          
                  
            1:07:56
          
          
            of creeps. This is the most
dishonest reporting you could
          
                  
            1:08:00
          
          
            possibly have bigoted bias name
calling. And meanwhile, we'll be
          
                  
            1:08:06
          
          
            going on and on about this when
they're so great. Today even
          
                  
            1:08:10
          
          
            discussed during the K part and
Brooke segment, the fact that
          
                  
            1:08:13
          
          
            the Cavanaugh accusers, two of
them so far have reneged on
          
                  
            1:08:19
          
          
            their accusations about rape and
all the rest of it. I don't
          
                  
            1:08:23
          
          
            recall that. No, of course not.
Nobody's covering it. But the
          
                  
            1:08:28
          
          
            Kavanaugh accusers are now being
referred to the Justice
          
                  
            1:08:31
          
          
            Department by Grassley for
perjury this is a this is a
          
                  
            1:08:38
          
          
            repressed story. Look it up.
Google it.
          
                  
            1:08:42
          
          
            Adam Curry: Oh, I Neva stuff.
          
                  
            1:08:46
          
          
            John C Dvorak: So so this, I've
just found it. The worst kind of
          
                  
            1:08:50
          
          
            reporting biased and bigoted,
dishonest, and that's what PBS
          
                  
            1:08:55
          
          
            has become fraudulent claims
against fraud.
          
                  
            1:09:01
          
          
            Adam Curry: Yeah. Are you
surprised, disappointed?
          
                  
            1:09:06
          
          
            John C Dvorak: No, I just like
to get worked up. Well,
          
                  
            1:09:08
          
          
            Adam Curry: that's successful.
Here's the actual text that I
          
                  
            1:09:10
          
          
            was referring to. Tucker Carlson
tech, Sidney Powell was lying by
          
                  
            1:09:14
          
          
            the way I caught her. It's
insane. Laura Ingraham. Sidney
          
                  
            1:09:17
          
          
            is a complete nut. No one will
work with her Ditto with Rudy
          
                  
            1:09:21
          
          
            and Tucker. It's unbelievably
offensive to me. Our viewers are
          
                  
            1:09:24
          
          
            good people and they believe it.
What a horrible thing to say as
          
                  
            1:09:27
          
          
            a television journalist.
Horrible, horrible to protect
          
                  
            1:09:32
          
          
            the good people who are the
viewers. Tucker's a real
          
                  
            1:09:34
          
          
            company, ma'am. That is that
surprises me. He must. I mean, I
          
                  
            1:09:40
          
          
            wonder if a lot of his
compensation is based on options
          
                  
            1:09:43
          
          
            now. And now I have to think
about that.
          
                  
            1:09:47
          
          
            John C Dvorak: You know, that
could be that'd be a good way to
          
                  
            1:09:49
          
          
            pay him.
          
                  
            1:09:51
          
          
            Adam Curry: You can read the 183
pages of the of the filing.
          
                  
            1:09:57
          
          
            There's a lot of you remember a
Coomer Eric Cooma, Director of
          
                  
            1:10:01
          
          
            Product Strategy, but just a
couple weeks before the
          
                  
            1:10:04
          
          
            election, he acknowledged that
quote, our shit is just riddled
          
                  
            1:10:08
          
          
            with bugs. Our products suck,
that almost all dominions
          
                  
            1:10:13
          
          
            technological failings were due
to our complete effed up effing
          
                  
            1:10:17
          
          
            up the installation. He
identified critical bug leading
          
                  
            1:10:21
          
          
            to incorrect results. I mean,
this is the it's the cover up
          
                  
            1:10:25
          
          
            this is exactly the way and I
guess he wanted to bring some
          
                  
            1:10:28
          
          
            clips now of how all media
except maybe a talker or some
          
                  
            1:10:36
          
          
            some Fox reporting, but
basically they're all they all
          
                  
            1:10:38
          
          
            suck up the Twitter files. You
know, the all you hear on on and
          
                  
            1:10:44
          
          
            you should probably look to PBS
and NPR as well. Oh, it's just a
          
                  
            1:10:48
          
          
            conspiracy theories is saying
the FBI was running Twitter.
          
                  
            1:10:52
          
          
            That's crazy talk. And they just
play a couple of clips of
          
                  
            1:10:55
          
          
            talker. You know, they don't
actually show you any of the
          
                  
            1:10:58
          
          
            documents that are coming out.
And though this is this, the
          
                  
            1:11:04
          
          
            problem is, it's not even the
media anymore. It's the medium.
          
                  
            1:11:11
          
          
            I think podcasting is the only
place you place you can get it.
          
                  
            1:11:14
          
          
            Get it do
          
                  
            1:11:15
          
          
            John C Dvorak: that. That was
good. That was funny. Sorry.
          
                  
            1:11:21
          
          
            We're gonna bitch and moan about
people. I do have a couple more
          
                  
            1:11:23
          
          
            clips. I'm glad you do. Don
Lemon.
          
                  
            1:11:27
          
          
            Adam Curry: I have thoughts
about Don Lemon. Yeah, can I
          
                  
            1:11:31
          
          
            just give you my thoughts off
the bat. And then you got your I
          
                  
            1:11:34
          
          
            have no clips. But I think Don
Lemon is a genius. Don Lemon has
          
                  
            1:11:40
          
          
            taken this. He's not he knows
that he has a job to do. He
          
                  
            1:11:44
          
          
            knows that he failed in his
primetime slot, more or less
          
                  
            1:11:47
          
          
            primetime. He knows that he's on
his last leg. And I know that
          
                  
            1:11:51
          
          
            you're thinking, according to
the newsletter, is that, you
          
                  
            1:11:55
          
          
            know, this is brilliant that the
new boss of CNN is trying to get
          
                  
            1:11:58
          
          
            him out. I think Don Lemon has
grabbed this and said, You know
          
                  
            1:12:02
          
          
            what, I'm gonna get everybody
watching because that's the
          
                  
            1:12:05
          
          
            result of this was everything he
says more people are going to
          
                  
            1:12:09
          
          
            watch. This is how you run a
cable news show. You need to
          
                  
            1:12:14
          
          
            have controversy. So people show
up. And I think he's doing the
          
                  
            1:12:18
          
          
            right thing here.
          
                  
            1:12:19
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
that would make a lot of sense
          
                  
            1:12:21
          
          
            if he showed up after the fact.
And he just went on vacation. So
          
                  
            1:12:24
          
          
            he's not going to be there. But
so that kind of blows that
          
                  
            1:12:27
          
          
            theory. bonus clips.
          
                  
            1:12:30
          
          
            Adam Curry: Oh, I'm sorry. You
didn't alert me to any bonus.
          
                  
            1:12:32
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I forgot to alert
you earlier. You should always
          
                  
            1:12:35
          
          
            have them so I never do that.
          
                  
            1:12:36
          
          
            Adam Curry: Oh, this clip
activity. Oh, no. You all you
          
                  
            1:12:39
          
          
            always say you get the bonus
clips.
          
                  
            1:12:41
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I know. I always
say it and you always say yep, I
          
                  
            1:12:43
          
          
            got him. What do you think?
          
                  
            1:12:46
          
          
            Adam Curry: That's right. I
decided to
          
                  
            1:12:48
          
          
            John C Dvorak: call Google
double fail. Were you the one
          
                  
            1:12:50
          
          
            time I don't ask is the one time
you don't do it makes me wonder
          
                  
            1:12:55
          
          
            if I ever do it.
          
                  
            1:12:56
          
          
            Adam Curry: No, but what's
really cool is that you and I
          
                  
            1:12:59
          
          
            know how this works. So you gave
me enough time there to rack
          
                  
            1:13:03
          
          
            them up and I'm good to go. All
you need to do is just tell me
          
                  
            1:13:05
          
          
            which bonus clip you want
because I haven't right here.
          
                  
            1:13:08
          
          
            John C Dvorak: So I have two Don
Lemon clips. One of them is
          
                  
            1:13:12
          
          
            what's what are they netlabel
because I don't have in front of
          
                  
            1:13:14
          
          
            me
          
                  
            1:13:15
          
          
            Adam Curry: Beadon I got beat on
beat on a beat on lemon blonde
          
                  
            1:13:19
          
          
            air. B Meyer on CNN B mooch como
be mooch opener.
          
                  
            1:13:24
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Okay, be Don
Lemon, whatever it was
          
                  
            1:13:27
          
          
            Unknown: this all the talk about
age makes me uncomfortable.
          
                  
            1:13:30
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Okay, great.
Let's stop. I do have to set it
          
                  
            1:13:34
          
          
            up. You do. So on the morning
show they This came after Nikki
          
                  
            1:13:39
          
          
            Haley. Yes jokingly said de I
don't understand why they don't
          
                  
            1:13:43
          
          
            give everybody a cognitive test.
After these, you know, he took
          
                  
            1:13:50
          
          
            his physical and he passed it
and flying colors but he never
          
                  
            1:13:53
          
          
            took a cognitive test even
though finally the same
          
                  
            1:13:56
          
          
            Democrats are the ones moaning
and groaning about Trump getting
          
                  
            1:13:58
          
          
            one he did get one. But Biden
hasn't gotten Hey, you are
          
                  
            1:14:01
          
          
            Adam Curry: like listening to
Twitter. This is great. All
          
                  
            1:14:03
          
          
            right. Yes. Oh gee. Oh, you
should try Tim Poole. This is
          
                  
            1:14:07
          
          
            exactly
          
                  
            1:14:07
          
          
            John C Dvorak: this is exactly
what we finished this are now
          
                  
            1:14:10
          
          
            you can just gonna go
          
                  
            1:14:10
          
          
            Adam Curry: I want to. I want to
antagonize you to get more out
          
                  
            1:14:13
          
          
            of you. This is great.
          
                  
            1:14:14
          
          
            John C Dvorak: So so she brought
this up and so this rubbed Don
          
                  
            1:14:18
          
          
            Lemon the wrong way because Don
lemons a Democrat, he's pushing
          
                  
            1:14:22
          
          
            me in over Biden to get
reelected and he didn't think
          
                  
            1:14:26
          
          
            this was much of this of this
idea, you know, and then it
          
                  
            1:14:30
          
          
            didn't call out Nikki Haley and
hilarity ensued.
          
                  
            1:14:34
          
          
            Unknown: This whole talk about
age makes me uncomfortable. I
          
                  
            1:14:37
          
          
            think that I think it's the
wrong road to go down she says
          
                  
            1:14:40
          
          
            people you know politicians or
something and not in their prime
          
                  
            1:14:42
          
          
            Nikki Haley is in her prime
sorry, when a woman is
          
                  
            1:14:45
          
          
            considered to be in her prime in
her 20s and 30s. And maybe 40s.
          
                  
            1:14:50
          
          
            That's not according to me for
what it depends on it's just
          
                  
            1:14:53
          
          
            like prime if you look it up,
it'll if you look, if you Google
          
                  
            1:14:56
          
          
            when there's a woman in her
prime, it'll say 20s 30s and
          
                  
            1:14:59
          
          
            40s. I don't know That's how I
got it. I agree with that. So I
          
                  
            1:15:03
          
          
            think she has to be careful
about saying that we, you know,
          
                  
            1:15:06
          
          
            politicians are under their
primary qualifier
          
                  
            1:15:08
          
          
            you're trying for like child
rearing.
          
                  
            1:15:13
          
          
            facts or Google at everybody at
home. When there's a woman in
          
                  
            1:15:16
          
          
            her prime, it says 20s 30s and
40s. And I'm just saying Nikki
          
                  
            1:15:19
          
          
            Haley should be careful about
saying that politicians are not
          
                  
            1:15:22
          
          
            in their prime. And when they
need to be in their prime when
          
                  
            1:15:24
          
          
            they serve, because she wouldn't
be in a prime according to
          
                  
            1:15:28
          
          
            Google, or whatever it is.
          
                  
            1:15:30
          
          
            Adam Curry: I'm just going to
counter you. I think you should
          
                  
            1:15:33
          
          
            be a little more pragmatic about
this. It's not because of the
          
                  
            1:15:36
          
          
            Democrats because he's gay. He
hates women. He's surrounded by
          
                  
            1:15:40
          
          
            beautiful women. He's the kind
of gay guy that hates women.
          
                  
            1:15:43
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I agree with
that. I could have brought that
          
                  
            1:15:45
          
          
            up. I didn't, because a lot of
gay guys are still a big Biden
          
                  
            1:15:48
          
          
            man. And yes, he hates women.
And there are gay a lot of gay
          
                  
            1:15:52
          
          
            men who hate women. There's a
lot of gay women who hate men.
          
                  
            1:15:55
          
          
            Yes. And so that's why I thought
it was genius to put him in that
          
                  
            1:15:59
          
          
            show genius to carping women who
would just go after anything he
          
                  
            1:16:05
          
          
            says, because I don't think they
like gay men. No,
          
                  
            1:16:09
          
          
            Adam Curry: and this is what I
am in agreement with you I think
          
                  
            1:16:12
          
          
            they're doing their job but
somehow it's looking at the
          
                  
            1:16:15
          
          
            ratings it really isn't catching
on but it should the formula of
          
                  
            1:16:19
          
          
            gay guy hates women to women who
hate gays, gay guys, I agree
          
                  
            1:16:24
          
          
            winning formula, but somehow
they're not able to execute. So
          
                  
            1:16:27
          
          
            that just comes down to seeing
and management Don lemons doing
          
                  
            1:16:30
          
          
            his job as far as I'm concerned.
          
                  
            1:16:35
          
          
            John C Dvorak: By being a dick,
yeah, he took off now he's in
          
                  
            1:16:38
          
          
            Miami, so he's not coming back.
And
          
                  
            1:16:40
          
          
            Adam Curry: he's in a red state.
Are you kidding me? He went to
          
                  
            1:16:42
          
          
            Miami.
          
                  
            1:16:43
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well, he's in
some where,
          
                  
            1:16:45
          
          
            Adam Curry: where you can't say
gay.
          
                  
            1:16:49
          
          
            John C Dvorak: That's where he
went. So all I can say, Oh, see,
          
                  
            1:16:51
          
          
            he's
          
                  
            1:16:51
          
          
            Adam Curry: a hypnotist. So.
          
                  
            1:16:53
          
          
            John C Dvorak: So anyway, but
then the joke of it. I'm not
          
                  
            1:16:56
          
          
            good. This is not a great clip.
But this is a clip from the
          
                  
            1:16:58
          
          
            marsh show. We're one of the
women on their on his. This is
          
                  
            1:17:02
          
          
            the show that played on CNN. Mar
immediately.
          
                  
            1:17:05
          
          
            Adam Curry: This is the Drew
90,000 viewers. Yeah. We
          
                  
            1:17:10
          
          
            literally have 10 times that
amount listening to this blather
          
                  
            1:17:13
          
          
            we're doing right now. That's
the best
          
                  
            1:17:15
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Mark goes on. He
gets his gig gets money. He's
          
                  
            1:17:18
          
          
            getting more money for this
90,000 viewers and we are for
          
                  
            1:17:21
          
          
            our nine I hope you didn't take
stock. So he goes on CNN and
          
                  
            1:17:27
          
          
            this is the after show that he
used to give away for free on
          
                  
            1:17:30
          
          
            the online now it's on CNN.
After is It is Friday show he
          
                  
            1:17:35
          
          
            does his Friday show they do an
after show. And you can watch
          
                  
            1:17:37
          
          
            that if you want and nobody did.
So CNN looking for material
          
                  
            1:17:41
          
          
            said, Hey, Bill, give us that
show. And we'll you know, we'll
          
                  
            1:17:44
          
          
            just put it on the air. And
here's some money. Sorry. And
          
                  
            1:17:49
          
          
            anyway, so he puts this on here.
And so he's got has to have
          
                  
            1:17:53
          
          
            mixed feelings about the woman
that's on there kind of
          
                  
            1:17:57
          
          
            convention about CNN itself.
          
                  
            1:17:59
          
          
            Adam Curry: Nikki Haley has
called for politicians over 75
          
                  
            1:18:03
          
          
            years old Z Oh, yes. To be
required to take a mental health
          
                  
            1:18:07
          
          
            competency test. I wonder who
that's aimed at? Both of them,
          
                  
            1:18:15
          
          
            right.
          
                  
            1:18:15
          
          
            Unknown: I think it's both I
think she's trolling it allows
          
                  
            1:18:17
          
          
            her to draw attention to Biden,
she's in Republican primary, but
          
                  
            1:18:21
          
          
            it's a subtle hit on Trump.
They're both older politicians,
          
                  
            1:18:24
          
          
            they have every right to run
people. The competency test is a
          
                  
            1:18:27
          
          
            really long campaign. And people
will assess how they seem. But
          
                  
            1:18:31
          
          
            shouldn't we do that for
everybody? Why just over 75?
          
                  
            1:18:34
          
          
            Because, I mean, my house of
representatives, there's only
          
                  
            1:18:46
          
          
            one age requirement, the
Constitution has a minimum age.
          
                  
            1:18:48
          
          
            And that was because they were
so worried about people passing
          
                  
            1:18:51
          
          
            things on to their famous sons
at the time. There's no maximum
          
                  
            1:18:55
          
          
            age, but we have that for pilots
and other things. But again, I
          
                  
            1:18:58
          
          
            think it's hard if you've
covered these things, you know
          
                  
            1:19:00
          
          
            how it is, it's hard to run for
president and we're gonna see
          
                  
            1:19:03
          
          
            how they do and then you're
gonna decide at the debates and
          
                  
            1:19:05
          
          
            other forums whether they seem
like they got it?
          
                  
            1:19:07
          
          
            Well, as Don Lemon told us on
CNN, women actually can't run
          
                  
            1:19:11
          
          
            for president because he's never
past our prime once we get to
          
                  
            1:19:14
          
          
            our 40s. But since you have to
be 35 to run it's like this
          
                  
            1:19:17
          
          
            really tight window between 35
and 40.
          
                  
            1:19:24
          
          
            Adam Curry: Now tell me the show
doesn't have music under it.
          
                  
            1:19:27
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I'm hoping it
doesn't. I picked it off of
          
                  
            1:19:30
          
          
            somebody who clipped it.
          
                  
            1:19:30
          
          
            Adam Curry: And yes,
          
                  
            1:19:31
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I was sorry,
          
                  
            1:19:32
          
          
            Adam Curry: did I refuse to play
that if there's music under it?
          
                  
            1:19:35
          
          
            Well,
          
                  
            1:19:35
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I couldn't find
not going to go to CNN and dig
          
                  
            1:19:37
          
          
            through the archives to find it.
So I took the clip, I say rip
          
                  
            1:19:41
          
          
            the clip off. So
          
                  
            1:19:42
          
          
            Adam Curry: there's there's
there's something that goes
          
                  
            1:19:43
          
          
            along with this particular story
about Cognizant cognition of our
          
                  
            1:19:49
          
          
            politicians. And of course, you
know, we ha It's Haley. Hi, it's
          
                  
            1:19:53
          
          
            orange MAN bad. But here's the
real story.
          
                  
            1:19:56
          
          
            Unknown: Also at Walter Reed
today, President Biden who was
          
                  
            1:19:58
          
          
            there for his annual checkup, a
matter of high interest as the
          
                  
            1:20:02
          
          
            president who is now 80 years
old is expected to run again.
          
                  
            1:20:05
          
          
            ABC is definitely Ramos at the
White House for us and
          
                  
            1:20:08
          
          
            Stephanie, what are we learning
from the President's Doctor
          
                  
            1:20:10
          
          
            tonight?
          
                  
            1:20:11
          
          
            Well, with that five page
detailed health report released
          
                  
            1:20:14
          
          
            right before our show, overall,
President Biden getting a clean
          
                  
            1:20:18
          
          
            bill of health today he spent
three hours at Walter Reed
          
                  
            1:20:21
          
          
            undergoing many tests. In that
health report, the President's
          
                  
            1:20:24
          
          
            doctor says Biden continues to
be treated for for different
          
                  
            1:20:27
          
          
            conditions, a type of irregular
heart rhythm, higher
          
                  
            1:20:30
          
          
            concentrations of fats or lipids
in the blood, also known as high
          
                  
            1:20:34
          
          
            cholesterol, gastro esophageal
reflux and seasonal allergies.
          
                  
            1:20:38
          
          
            The summary says Biden did not
experience any long COVID
          
                  
            1:20:41
          
          
            Following his bout with the
virus in July of 2022. His
          
                  
            1:20:45
          
          
            doctor also says that Biden is
fit to successfully execute the
          
                  
            1:20:49
          
          
            duties of the presidency,
          
                  
            1:20:51
          
          
            Adam Curry: where's the brain
analysis?
          
                  
            1:20:54
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well, they also
left something out that everyone
          
                  
            1:20:56
          
          
            else kind of brought up which he
has an awkward gait. Yeah. And
          
                  
            1:21:02
          
          
            the doctor brought it up. And I
was thinking about this because
          
                  
            1:21:04
          
          
            this goes back to the our show's
been on for a long time. Yeah.
          
                  
            1:21:07
          
          
            And we used to do a segment
about Biden called and we have a
          
                  
            1:21:12
          
          
            jingle for it. Called drunk or
not drunk.
          
                  
            1:21:16
          
          
            Adam Curry: I don't think that's
true. Did that start with Biden?
          
                  
            1:21:19
          
          
            Yes. I don't didn't really.
Where's the jingle? Oh, here it
          
                  
            1:21:24
          
          
            is. Yes, we do I just showed.
Was that about Biden?
          
                  
            1:21:32
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I'm pretty sure
it was about but I'm not pretty
          
                  
            1:21:34
          
          
            sure I'm convinced it's about
Biden, because we had a lot of
          
                  
            1:21:37
          
          
            Biden clips because he was
always slurring and could be his
          
                  
            1:21:40
          
          
            energy was off and we'd play a
clip of Biden and then it would
          
                  
            1:21:43
          
          
            be drunk or not drunk. And but
we haven't
          
                  
            1:21:47
          
          
            Adam Curry: for Nadler for
Kamala, we do have him for Oh,
          
                  
            1:21:50
          
          
            George Bush.
          
                  
            1:21:52
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Yeah, Bush is
always tiny drunk, too. But
          
                  
            1:21:55
          
          
            there was a lot of Biden clips
and Biden goes way back with
          
                  
            1:21:58
          
          
            having this kind of high, you
know, energy and then having
          
                  
            1:22:02
          
          
            this drunk sound. I think he was
an alcoholic. And I think that's
          
                  
            1:22:06
          
          
            where that gate comes from.
Because I that gate, I have seen
          
                  
            1:22:10
          
          
            that gate. A number of times
from out and out drunks that
          
                  
            1:22:15
          
          
            lived in the neighborhoods
they've been in. I think he's
          
                  
            1:22:18
          
          
            just
          
                  
            1:22:18
          
          
            Adam Curry: old and senile. I
mean, why throw it on the drunk
          
                  
            1:22:21
          
          
            thing? He's just old.
          
                  
            1:22:22
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Saying you get
it. Get a gate like that. You
          
                  
            1:22:25
          
          
            now okay. He is now old and seen
while I'm on the domestic beat
          
                  
            1:22:30
          
          
            condemning things. Yes. Yeah. So
he just Anthony Scaramucci has a
          
                  
            1:22:36
          
          
            podcast now.
          
                  
            1:22:37
          
          
            Adam Curry: Yeah. Really. You're
really digging at the bottom of
          
                  
            1:22:42
          
          
            the barrel when you're going to
the to Anthony Scaramucci, his
          
                  
            1:22:44
          
          
            podcast.
          
                  
            1:22:45
          
          
            John C Dvorak: And I think I may
have had some influence on it
          
                  
            1:22:47
          
          
            because he did one of his first
podcast technically with me
          
                  
            1:22:51
          
          
            Adam Curry: while he's also
friends with with Horowitz
          
                  
            1:22:55
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Yeah. Oh, they
are? Yeah. Yes, they are friends
          
                  
            1:22:57
          
          
            because of the investment angle,
but he's also super good
          
                  
            1:23:02
          
          
            friends. Super good, super
          
                  
            1:23:03
          
          
            Adam Curry: good. Friends, Trump
with
          
                  
            1:23:05
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Cuomo with Cuomo.
He's on his podcast. And this is
          
                  
            1:23:10
          
          
            because I wanted to get this
clip since we're bashing Don
          
                  
            1:23:13
          
          
            Lemon and Cuomo saying that when
he got fired from CNN, he wanted
          
                  
            1:23:17
          
          
            to kill everyone and then kill
himself.
          
                  
            1:23:21
          
          
            Unknown: Good time is going to
go away. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
          
                  
            1:23:24
          
          
            Adam Curry: You're giving me
cues?
          
                  
            1:23:26
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm sorry.
But so the thing is, I got two
          
                  
            1:23:31
          
          
            clips here. First, I've got the
opening clip of his show, which
          
                  
            1:23:35
          
          
            got an undo Columbo. I just want
to point out to it's out of
          
                  
            1:23:40
          
          
            phase. Now, not everybody knows
what that means. But you do
          
                  
            1:23:47
          
          
            Adam Curry: I do. Yes. It sounds
like you're talking through your
          
                  
            1:23:50
          
          
            butthole
          
                  
            1:23:51
          
          
            John C Dvorak: is out of phase
and you get that you can get out
          
                  
            1:23:54
          
          
            of phase using stereo mics.
There's a lot of different ways
          
                  
            1:23:57
          
          
            you can achieve the sound. But
it's not wanted. It's not the
          
                  
            1:24:02
          
          
            idea. It's not the idea. And his
so his he and the thing is is
          
                  
            1:24:08
          
          
            local he's out of phase, and his
does guests not aren't
          
                  
            1:24:12
          
          
            necessarily which makes it even
more rinky dink madness, but I
          
                  
            1:24:16
          
          
            want to play the beginning of
him so you can hear what I'm
          
                  
            1:24:19
          
          
            talking about with an out of
phase situation where the
          
                  
            1:24:23
          
          
            recording
          
                  
            1:24:25
          
          
            Adam Curry: music is good.
          
                  
            1:24:26
          
          
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            Adam Curry: Now how about little
detail on your investment with
          
                  
            1:24:57
          
          
            FTX their motion Yeah, that was
that was a really
          
                  
            1:25:01
          
          
            John C Dvorak: they also he also
pops his PS what kind
          
                  
            1:25:05
          
          
            Adam Curry: of what kind of mic
does it maybe the mic maybe
          
                  
            1:25:08
          
          
            using a weird mic that he's
          
                  
            1:25:10
          
          
            John C Dvorak: mic so using
contribute to
          
                  
            1:25:13
          
          
            Adam Curry: people have like
these you get these USB mics
          
                  
            1:25:16
          
          
            that people run through a mixer
that could be
          
                  
            1:25:19
          
          
            John C Dvorak: yeah what there's
a lot of possibilities whatever
          
                  
            1:25:21
          
          
            the case is he hasn't got a pop
filter and he's popping his
          
                  
            1:25:26
          
          
            piece and is and he's and he's
awkward. He doesn't feel
          
                  
            1:25:29
          
          
            comfortable. You can tell he
doesn't like doing this. I don't
          
                  
            1:25:31
          
          
            know why he's doing it. But he
did have Cuomo on and Cuomo
          
                  
            1:25:34
          
          
            here. And it's not as
spectacular as I'd hoped. But
          
                  
            1:25:37
          
          
            Cuomo does say he was wanted to
shoot everybody as CNN and then
          
                  
            1:25:42
          
          
            kill himself after he got fired.
And by the way, if people want
          
                  
            1:25:47
          
          
            to hear a self absorbed person
of being interviewed, go find
          
                  
            1:25:51
          
          
            his Scaramucci podcasting and
listen to Cuomo just talks about
          
                  
            1:25:58
          
          
            himself excessively and he's
like he's just he's just really
          
                  
            1:26:03
          
          
            must be insufferable in person.
But this is the part I it's not
          
                  
            1:26:07
          
          
            as great as I'd hoped. But he
did. I'm thinking now he's
          
                  
            1:26:10
          
          
            working for this other operation
news, reality or news? Whatever
          
                  
            1:26:14
          
          
            Adam Curry: newsletter news
newsletter news, and
          
                  
            1:26:18
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I would say I
would be really skeptical about
          
                  
            1:26:20
          
          
            being a producer for him if this
is what he thinks, but here it
          
                  
            1:26:23
          
          
            is for people who want to know
          
                  
            1:26:25
          
          
            Adam Curry: as producers were
child Fiddler's
          
                  
            1:26:29
          
          
            John C Dvorak: is that. Okay?
          
                  
            1:26:31
          
          
            Unknown: Good. Time is going to
go away the bad time is also
          
                  
            1:26:34
          
          
            going to go away. I'm is
immutable. No question.
          
                  
            1:26:37
          
          
            Adam Curry: Totally crap.
Everything's out of phase this.
          
                  
            1:26:40
          
          
            This whole thing is out of
phase,
          
                  
            1:26:41
          
          
            Unknown: right? But it's very
subjective. Just because a long
          
                  
            1:26:44
          
          
            time goes away, doesn't mean you
gotta be doing the right things.
          
                  
            1:26:49
          
          
            You got to make things happen.
There is no luck. There is no
          
                  
            1:26:51
          
          
            fate, there is no destiny. What
happens is what you make happen
          
                  
            1:26:55
          
          
            and how you deal with what is
made to happen to you, for
          
                  
            1:26:57
          
          
            better and worse. And, you know,
I make a lot of mistakes.
          
                  
            1:27:02
          
          
            Sometimes for good reasons,
sometimes for bad reason. I'm
          
                  
            1:27:05
          
          
            very flawed, there's damage,
there's damage that's relatable
          
                  
            1:27:09
          
          
            to people, there's damage that's
unrelatable to people that I
          
                  
            1:27:12
          
          
            have to deal with that I tried
to deal with that I do the work
          
                  
            1:27:15
          
          
            on, I still fail. And I have
learned to accept that I had to
          
                  
            1:27:20
          
          
            accept because I was going to
kill everybody, including
          
                  
            1:27:23
          
          
            myself. Things can consume you
Italians are so passionate, and
          
                  
            1:27:27
          
          
            I really had to fight against
that. Because, you know, just
          
                  
            1:27:30
          
          
            like you did. I got too many
people counting on me.
          
                  
            1:27:33
          
          
            Adam Curry: Does he? I got so
many people counting on me. Does
          
                  
            1:27:37
          
          
            he is he have a book out about
him wanting to kill him. That's
          
                  
            1:27:39
          
          
            probably this is a setup. Either
it's out or he's getting ready
          
                  
            1:27:42
          
          
            for it. He's promoting a book
about his IOMMU I wanted to kill
          
                  
            1:27:45
          
          
            everybody wanted to kill myself.
It's all about me. Look at me
          
                  
            1:27:48
          
          
            because Italians are passionate.
Screw this guy. Don't close.
          
                  
            1:27:54
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Close. Close. But
believe me, you're close. But
          
                  
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            the thing is, he had a book deal
that was killed after he was
          
                  
            1:28:05
          
          
            fired. And he's suing the
publisher. So he's got no book
          
                  
            1:28:08
          
          
            coming out and you start suing
publishers. You're gonna be Oh,
          
                  
            1:28:11
          
          
            yeah, you're never gonna get a
book. That's like
          
                  
            1:28:13
          
          
            Adam Curry: saying I was
discriminated against as a
          
                  
            1:28:15
          
          
            woman. I didn't get a raise.
That's right. You're never
          
                  
            1:28:17
          
          
            working in television again.
Natali Morris?
          
                  
            1:28:21
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well, I need it
better was cat Sadler down an E
          
                  
            1:28:25
          
          
            News.
          
                  
            1:28:26
          
          
            Adam Curry: All right. Back to
gay. Because you tell me since
          
                  
            1:28:33
          
          
            you're the expert, is this a man
or a woman speaking?
          
                  
            1:28:38
          
          
            Unknown: One example would be
the quote unquote don't say gay
          
                  
            1:28:40
          
          
            law in Florida. You know it.
Studies show that one supportive
          
                  
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            adult
          
                  
            1:28:45
          
          
            Adam Curry: man or woman, man.
And what is the man's name?
          
                  
            1:28:52
          
          
            Karen No, Rachel.
          
                  
            1:28:55
          
          
            John C Dvorak: That's Rachel.
That's Rachel lovey. It sounds
          
                  
            1:28:58
          
          
            like a man. Well, looks like a
woman.
          
                  
            1:29:01
          
          
            Unknown: One supportive adult
for an LGBT actually this is
          
                  
            1:29:04
          
          
            Adam Curry: a pretty interesting
clip. I've carried this over for
          
                  
            1:29:06
          
          
            a few shows. This is what Rachel
Levine had to say. And it's
          
                  
            1:29:09
          
          
            about Florida. This is why I
play it the don't say gay law
          
                  
            1:29:13
          
          
            but just listen to what P she
you think used to be Richard.
          
                  
            1:29:17
          
          
            I'm just gonna dead name because
this I don't even believe that
          
                  
            1:29:20
          
          
            Rachel Levine is transferred
because because he believes he's
          
                  
            1:29:24
          
          
            trans. I just it's hard for me
to believe that seems like a
          
                  
            1:29:27
          
          
            gag.
          
                  
            1:29:28
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Kind of like,
like the guy like to teach
          
                  
            1:29:31
          
          
            Adam Curry: with the big boobs
Exactly. Feels like a gag again.
          
                  
            1:29:35
          
          
            Unknown: One example would be
the quote unquote, don't say gay
          
                  
            1:29:37
          
          
            law. In Florida. You know it,
studies show that one supportive
          
                  
            1:29:42
          
          
            adult, one supportive adult for
an LGBTQ plus kid can make all
          
                  
            1:29:48
          
          
            the difference in terms of
preventing suicide in terms of
          
                  
            1:29:51
          
          
            them, being able to navigate the
world and to adulthood and
          
                  
            1:29:55
          
          
            leading a you know, a happy,
successful, productive life.
          
                  
            1:29:59
          
          
            Once sort of Dove. I'd love it
if that was always the parent,
          
                  
            1:30:02
          
          
            but it's not always apparent.
Frequently, it's a teacher, or a
          
                  
            1:30:06
          
          
            guidance counselor or some other
coach or another school
          
                  
            1:30:09
          
          
            personnel. This law forbids kids
essentially from from talking to
          
                  
            1:30:14
          
          
            these people, because they also,
it means that the that if you
          
                  
            1:30:17
          
          
            tell a teacher, the teacher has
to tell the parent. And so it
          
                  
            1:30:20
          
          
            really is, is a gag rule, it's a
gag law, to to to hell, and that
          
                  
            1:30:25
          
          
            to two kids from accessing
supportive adults.
          
                  
            1:30:29
          
          
            Adam Curry: So really is better
if, if this is just one, you
          
                  
            1:30:33
          
          
            only need one supportive adult,
this is. Yes, I think if a
          
                  
            1:30:39
          
          
            teacher, whatever your child is
going through a teacher should
          
                  
            1:30:41
          
          
            talk to the parents about it
shouldn't be just and especially
          
                  
            1:30:44
          
          
            not if teachers just have the
capability to enjoy. Let's go
          
                  
            1:30:48
          
          
            talk to this doctor over here.
Anyway, that that's your
          
                  
            1:30:51
          
          
            Assistant Secretary of Health
and Human Services. So now let's
          
                  
            1:30:56
          
          
            listen to de Santos. As you
would say, Ronnie, I do not like
          
                  
            1:31:01
          
          
            the directions he's headed. This
sounds like a good idea. But I
          
                  
            1:31:06
          
          
            don't like it. So
          
                  
            1:31:08
          
          
            Unknown: what is the digital
Bill of Rights? Well, we want to
          
                  
            1:31:11
          
          
            protect your right as a
Floridian to have private in
          
                  
            1:31:15
          
          
            person conversations without big
tech surveilling you, if you
          
                  
            1:31:20
          
          
            want to consent to let them have
this information. So they can
          
                  
            1:31:23
          
          
            fashion advertising based off of
it, it's your right to consent
          
                  
            1:31:27
          
          
            to do so. But it should only be
if you consent, and they don't
          
                  
            1:31:30
          
          
            have a right to have that
information. As a matter of
          
                  
            1:31:33
          
          
            first principle, we also are
going to protect the right to
          
                  
            1:31:37
          
          
            participate in online platforms
without unfair censorship. We
          
                  
            1:31:42
          
          
            want free speech, we want more
speech, not less speech, we want
          
                  
            1:31:45
          
          
            to protect the right to know how
these Internet search engines
          
                  
            1:31:49
          
          
            are manipulating search results,
transparency, in terms of what
          
                  
            1:31:53
          
          
            we're doing so that you can
evaluate whether that's a search
          
                  
            1:31:56
          
          
            engine that you want to use. Or
maybe you want to take your
          
                  
            1:31:59
          
          
            business elsewhere. We want to
protect your right to control
          
                  
            1:32:03
          
          
            all your personal data on the
largest and most common
          
                  
            1:32:07
          
          
            platforms, they take that
personal data, and they make a
          
                  
            1:32:10
          
          
            fortune off your personal data.
So you're talking about Google,
          
                  
            1:32:14
          
          
            Facebook, just a handful these
companies, they should really
          
                  
            1:32:19
          
          
            get Express authorization from
you before they're able to
          
                  
            1:32:23
          
          
            monetize that or use it in any
way. And then finally, digital
          
                  
            1:32:27
          
          
            Bill of Rights aims to protect
children from various online
          
                  
            1:32:32
          
          
            harms. And as we see, that's a
huge issue.
          
                  
            1:32:34
          
          
            Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Somebody
Think of the children, there
          
                  
            1:32:37
          
          
            should be no legislation. This
digital especially called the
          
                  
            1:32:41
          
          
            Digital Bill of Rights. No,
these are all rights we have,
          
                  
            1:32:45
          
          
            instead of what they want. What
DeSantis wants is he wants
          
                  
            1:32:50
          
          
            control. He wants to control the
internet. This is why they all
          
                  
            1:32:53
          
          
            put but it's net neutrality is
the same thing. I mean, this,
          
                  
            1:32:57
          
          
            this debate will not end well.
You don't really want this you
          
                  
            1:33:02
          
          
            want education. You want to tell
people, here's the here's all
          
                  
            1:33:05
          
          
            the crap that's going down.
Here's the systems and here's
          
                  
            1:33:09
          
          
            the companies that do it. Here's
what they do. Just just educate
          
                  
            1:33:12
          
          
            people continuously. That's what
they need. Not to Oh,
          
                  
            1:33:16
          
          
            government's going to save me
government's going to protect
          
                  
            1:33:19
          
          
            me. That has never worked out.
I'm hoping you would agree with
          
                  
            1:33:23
          
          
            me on this.
          
                  
            1:33:27
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well, just to
take the other side of it,
          
                  
            1:33:29
          
          
            because you do that to me now
every day. Well, you deserve and
          
                  
            1:33:33
          
          
            I would pray. I would say it's
just blather. It's just he's
          
                  
            1:33:38
          
          
            just talking out of his ass
because none of this is going to
          
                  
            1:33:41
          
          
            happen one way or the other. Oh,
that's digital. Right? That's
          
                  
            1:33:45
          
          
            just Italys just bullshit.
That's just as good. I'll take
          
                  
            1:33:48
          
          
            that.
          
                  
            1:33:50
          
          
            Adam Curry: Look, okay, I want
to move to climate change
          
                  
            1:33:52
          
          
            because there's stuff happening.
Yes, yes, there's good stuff
          
                  
            1:33:55
          
          
            happening and climate change the
war
          
                  
            1:33:58
          
          
            Unknown: means
          
                  
            1:34:01
          
          
            Adam Curry: a war on me. Let's
make meat look bad. We
          
                  
            1:34:05
          
          
            Unknown: also learned today that
a Wisconsin company paid more
          
                  
            1:34:08
          
          
            than one and a half million
dollars in fines for violating
          
                  
            1:34:12
          
          
            child labor laws. The Labor
Department says packers
          
                  
            1:34:16
          
          
            sanitation services had more
than 100 children, some as young
          
                  
            1:34:19
          
          
            as 13, working at more than a
dozen meat processing plants in
          
                  
            1:34:24
          
          
            eight states.
          
                  
            1:34:25
          
          
            Adam Curry: Now when I was 13 I
had jobs like that not
          
                  
            1:34:29
          
          
            meatpacking. But
          
                  
            1:34:32
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I wouldn't think
so. No,
          
                  
            1:34:34
          
          
            Adam Curry: but there were
there. I worked. I did work for
          
                  
            1:34:37
          
          
            FAR. I worked for a butcher. I
did some stuff and I didn't
          
                  
            1:34:39
          
          
            actually pack the meat. But I
was around I mean, you're not
          
                  
            1:34:42
          
          
            allowed to have a job when
you're 13
          
                  
            1:34:45
          
          
            John C Dvorak: like a Saturday
jobs when I was 13. I had jobs
          
                  
            1:34:48
          
          
            Adam Curry: when I was a
paperboy. Same with me. Is that
          
                  
            1:34:50
          
          
            not allowed anymore?
          
                  
            1:34:53
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I said I said I
think it is but I think when I
          
                  
            1:34:56
          
          
            was a kid and I wanted to work
in a factory and I wasn't which
          
                  
            1:35:00
          
          
            is, you know, in high school,
for example, you had to get a
          
                  
            1:35:04
          
          
            work permit.
          
                  
            1:35:06
          
          
            Adam Curry: Oh, okay. I've never
gotten that.
          
                  
            1:35:08
          
          
            John C Dvorak: So I got a work
permit to work a full time job
          
                  
            1:35:12
          
          
            and during the summer, and I
think you had to be 14 to get to
          
                  
            1:35:17
          
          
            work permit or 15 to 14,
probably. And you get these it
          
                  
            1:35:22
          
          
            was really just a rubber stamp.
          
                  
            1:35:24
          
          
            Adam Curry: Exactly me well, by
Nike. There's no children
          
                  
            1:35:27
          
          
            involved in gluing that
together.
          
                  
            1:35:29
          
          
            John C Dvorak: All right, well,
that's a good point. It's kind
          
                  
            1:35:30
          
          
            of hypocritical report.
          
                  
            1:35:32
          
          
            Adam Curry: Let's go down to the
electric vehicles. There's a hit
          
                  
            1:35:35
          
          
            out on EVs. It has to it has to
happen because we're moving to
          
                  
            1:35:39
          
          
            clean hydrogen, which just will
not work 56,000 hydrogen
          
                  
            1:35:45
          
          
            vehicles already on the road in
America. So they say, Here's
          
                  
            1:35:50
          
          
            Bloomberg. Kind of setting the
narrative. This was a podcast,
          
                  
            1:35:54
          
          
            by the way, setting the
narrative with this guy, Steven
          
                  
            1:35:57
          
          
            schork about just how bad
electric vehicles are for the
          
                  
            1:36:01
          
          
            environment. This obviously
revolves around the battery.
          
                  
            1:36:04
          
          
            Unknown: You said a line there,
I think it was EVs are certainly
          
                  
            1:36:07
          
          
            not that environmentally
friendly. Explain that to us.
          
                  
            1:36:11
          
          
            Yeah. I mean, this look what's
happening in California right
          
                  
            1:36:14
          
          
            now, we're at the first
lifecycle ending of those solar
          
                  
            1:36:17
          
          
            panels. California does not
never had a plan to dispose of
          
                  
            1:36:22
          
          
            those solar panels. So now all
the heavy metal that was sold
          
                  
            1:36:25
          
          
            pens was sitting in a dumps with
potential of all the heavy
          
                  
            1:36:30
          
          
            metals in there leaking out into
the environment. And now when
          
                  
            1:36:34
          
          
            you factor in the fact that EVs
are such a small percentage of
          
                  
            1:36:38
          
          
            the global market, when we talk
about the amount of Earth, and
          
                  
            1:36:41
          
          
            we're talking about something
about the size of the state of
          
                  
            1:36:44
          
          
            Arizona, and Nevada, just here,
the United States to see our
          
                  
            1:36:47
          
          
            demand, the amount of Earth
you're going to have to rip up
          
                  
            1:36:50
          
          
            to get to these heavy metals. So
that's we're ripping up China,
          
                  
            1:36:53
          
          
            we're going to rip up the Congo,
which we already are, we're
          
                  
            1:36:56
          
          
            going to rip up Argentina to get
to the to the cobalt there, when
          
                  
            1:37:00
          
          
            we have to rip up that earth it
will make 120 130 years of coal
          
                  
            1:37:04
          
          
            mining and oil drilling look
like a pinprick of the amount of
          
                  
            1:37:09
          
          
            environmental degradation we're
gonna have to do to get those
          
                  
            1:37:13
          
          
            virtue signaling and heavy
metals into that evey battery
          
                  
            1:37:17
          
          
            states and why don't we have in
that conversation more? I don't
          
                  
            1:37:21
          
          
            know. I mean, it's what we're
doing because we're such a
          
                  
            1:37:23
          
          
            fractured political donation, if
I'm seeing something 49 50% of
          
                  
            1:37:28
          
          
            the people watching this think
I'm nuts and think I'm some kind
          
                  
            1:37:31
          
          
            of pushing some sort of agenda.
I'm just looking for a meeting
          
                  
            1:37:34
          
          
            of the minds and I want to I
want to I want to really promote
          
                  
            1:37:37
          
          
            my hybrid. It's the best of both
worlds. It's a little bit of
          
                  
            1:37:41
          
          
            fossil dough going away there.
And it's a little bit of
          
                  
            1:37:45
          
          
            electricity. It's a little bit
of both compromise.
          
                  
            1:37:48
          
          
            Adam Curry: Yeah, there it is.
The war is on and this is my
          
                  
            1:37:52
          
          
            favorite one. Oh, Tesla recalls,
          
                  
            1:37:55
          
          
            Unknown: voluntarily recalling
more than 360,000 vehicles
          
                  
            1:37:58
          
          
            warning that it's experimental
Driver Assistance software may
          
                  
            1:38:02
          
          
            cause crashes. Federal
investigators say Tesla's full
          
                  
            1:38:05
          
          
            self driving beta software can
send cars straight through
          
                  
            1:38:09
          
          
            intersections where there's a
turn only lane failed to come to
          
                  
            1:38:12
          
          
            a full stop at stop signs or
blow through yellow lights. It
          
                  
            1:38:16
          
          
            says it will update the software
in the impacted vehicles.
          
                  
            1:38:20
          
          
            Adam Curry: So the choice here
for the term recall is very
          
                  
            1:38:24
          
          
            interesting for
          
                  
            1:38:25
          
          
            John C Dvorak: very
controversial NPR locally, I
          
                  
            1:38:28
          
          
            didn't have the clip, but I was
gonna get it it just seemed a
          
                  
            1:38:31
          
          
            little long and boring. But they
made a big fuss about it Tesla
          
                  
            1:38:35
          
          
            made the first it was must be so
why we're not nobody has to
          
                  
            1:38:38
          
          
            drive their car indices and over
there were software fix. Why do
          
                  
            1:38:43
          
          
            you insist on calling it a
recall? And NPR persisted on
          
                  
            1:38:47
          
          
            calling it a recall as though
they were in on it. Here's ABC
          
                  
            1:38:51
          
          
            Unknown: CEO Elon Musk
          
                  
            1:38:52
          
          
            is taking issue with the word
recall saying using that word
          
                  
            1:38:56
          
          
            for an over the air software
update is just plain wrong.
          
                  
            1:39:00
          
          
            Adam Curry: Yeah, but she's on
the losing end. He's on the
          
                  
            1:39:03
          
          
            losing end while
          
                  
            1:39:05
          
          
            John C Dvorak: he was I doing
clip for this series Tesla crash
          
                  
            1:39:11
          
          
            Unknown: is dead after
          
                  
            1:39:12
          
          
            Adam Curry: a Tesla slam into a
fire truck in the East Bay
          
                  
            1:39:14
          
          
            happened this morning. A
northbound six ad Firefighters
          
                  
            1:39:18
          
          
            say the Tesla hit a truck that
was blocking a different crash
          
                  
            1:39:22
          
          
            driver died at the scene.
Passenger and four firefighters
          
                  
            1:39:25
          
          
            were taken to the hospital. They
have all since been released.
          
                  
            1:39:28
          
          
            Yeah, I love the Super Bowl
commercials. Most people who
          
                  
            1:39:33
          
          
            hate Tesla was not Yeah, it was
Tesla, right. They're out to get
          
                  
            1:39:38
          
          
            them they're out to get they're
out to eat well, ever
          
                  
            1:39:40
          
          
            John C Dvorak: since Musk said
vote Republican. And ever since
          
                  
            1:39:43
          
          
            he began ever since the
          
                  
            1:39:45
          
          
            Adam Curry: Twitter files. Of
course. Maybe he's only maybe
          
                  
            1:39:48
          
          
            he's not that smart. Oh, what
did I just say there?
          
                  
            1:39:51
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Maybe this is a
part of a bigger play.
          
                  
            1:39:53
          
          
            Adam Curry: No, no, he just made
each. He's just not impressive.
          
                  
            1:39:56
          
          
            I've met him he's not
impressive. He didn't start
          
                  
            1:39:59
          
          
            these kinds. Companies he was
put in there by Sequoia Capital.
          
                  
            1:40:03
          
          
            Roelof, Botha is the CEO another
South African. It's the Cabal.
          
                  
            1:40:08
          
          
            And you know, and his hair is
fake news. I hate I hate to do
          
                  
            1:40:12
          
          
            it, but it's just like. And he
was really, really unattractive
          
                  
            1:40:16
          
          
            and balding, and now he's just
not balding and unattractive.
          
                  
            1:40:20
          
          
            And it just doesn't seem smart.
He just talk talk talks,
          
                  
            1:40:24
          
          
            interestingly. Alright, the view
had a scoop. She didn't come to
          
                  
            1:40:29
          
          
            see them, of course, because she
no longer flies. But I guess
          
                  
            1:40:34
          
          
            Greta is back on the scene.
          
                  
            1:40:38
          
          
            Unknown: In the last five years,
Greta Thun Berg has gone from a
          
                  
            1:40:41
          
          
            solo student activist to an
international icon and the
          
                  
            1:40:44
          
          
            movement to combat climate
change. Now she and more than
          
                  
            1:40:47
          
          
            100 experts are sounding yet
another global warning on the
          
                  
            1:40:51
          
          
            crisis in the climate book,
which is right here joining us
          
                  
            1:40:55
          
          
            from Sweden. Please welcome
Greta Thun Berg.
          
                  
            1:41:04
          
          
            Thank you for coming on the
show. Congratulations on the
          
                  
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            book, we should point out that
it's been 60 degrees here in New
          
                  
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            York this week in mid February,
just saying
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: just didn't we have
like a an Arctic bomb? Oh, gosh.
          
                  
            1:41:22
          
          
            Just Damn. Weather is not
climate.
          
                  
            1:41:25
          
          
            Unknown: I wonder how would you
describe where we stand today in
          
                  
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            terms of climate, the climate
crisis? Are we better or worse
          
                  
            1:41:32
          
          
            off than when you began striking
five years ago?
          
                  
            1:41:36
          
          
            Adam Curry: Now what would the
answer be to this question?
          
                  
            1:41:39
          
          
            John C Dvorak: In your worst
self, of course,
          
                  
            1:41:41
          
          
            Adam Curry: is that really all
your full Ramsar? Is that the if
          
                  
            1:41:44
          
          
            you're Greta, that's all you
would say? We're just worse off?
          
                  
            1:41:48
          
          
            John C Dvorak: How dare you say
that very dare you.
          
                  
            1:41:52
          
          
            Unknown: It depends on how you
see it. If you see it. From one
          
                  
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            perspective, the concentration,
the level of co2 in the
          
                  
            1:41:59
          
          
            atmosphere is higher now than it
was before. We are seeing more
          
                  
            1:42:02
          
          
            and more natural disasters, more
people are displaced more people
          
                  
            1:42:06
          
          
            are losing their lives and
livelihoods due to the
          
                  
            1:42:08
          
          
            consequences of the climate
crisis. So in that,
          
                  
            1:42:10
          
          
            Adam Curry: who's losing a job
over the consequence of the
          
                  
            1:42:13
          
          
            climate crisis.
          
                  
            1:42:16
          
          
            John C Dvorak: craniums are
displaced
          
                  
            1:42:18
          
          
            Unknown: more people are losing
their lives and livelihoods due
          
                  
            1:42:20
          
          
            to the consequences of the
climate crisis. So in that
          
                  
            1:42:23
          
          
            sense, we are far worse off than
we were before. But also we can
          
                  
            1:42:27
          
          
            see that more and more people
are starting to stand up and
          
                  
            1:42:29
          
          
            speak up, speak out about these
issues, and more people are
          
                  
            1:42:33
          
          
            mobilizing so but it's going
wait way too slow. So I would
          
                  
            1:42:38
          
          
            say we're both better off and
much worse off.
          
                  
            1:42:42
          
          
            Adam Curry: It's better and
worse. Wrong. My question would
          
                  
            1:42:47
          
          
            be, what do you think of those
stickers on? On gas tanks and
          
                  
            1:42:51
          
          
            gas stations of you? What do you
think of that question? No, no,
          
                  
            1:42:55
          
          
            no, we can't do that. We have to
bring in some culture and Greta.
          
                  
            1:42:59
          
          
            I'm sorry. Go ahead.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: I was gonna say
if I was gonna ask her stuff. I
          
                  
            1:43:02
          
          
            asked her if she was okay with
all these private jets that fly
          
                  
            1:43:05
          
          
            into these climate meetups.
          
                  
            1:43:06
          
          
            Adam Curry: Well, she doesn't
fly anymore. You see, so you
          
                  
            1:43:08
          
          
            didn't fly out. But
          
                  
            1:43:09
          
          
            John C Dvorak: is she okay with
everybody else flying in and
          
                  
            1:43:11
          
          
            it's private jets?
          
                  
            1:43:13
          
          
            Adam Curry: Did I play the Bill
Gates? answer to that question.
          
                  
            1:43:19
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I don't think
like the Jeffrey Epstein is dead
          
                  
            1:43:21
          
          
            Adam Curry: known. Know about
the private key of the BBC asked
          
                  
            1:43:25
          
          
            gates that very question.
          
                  
            1:43:27
          
          
            John C Dvorak: What do you say
to the charge that if you are a
          
                  
            1:43:30
          
          
            climate change campaigner, but
you also travel around the world
          
                  
            1:43:33
          
          
            and a private jet, you're a
hypocrite? Well, I, I
          
                  
            1:43:38
          
          
            Unknown: by the gold standard of
funding climeworks to do direct
          
                  
            1:43:44
          
          
            air capture that far exceeds my
family's carbon footprint. And I
          
                  
            1:43:51
          
          
            spend billions of dollars on on
climate innovation. I'm so good.
          
                  
            1:43:55
          
          
            So, you know, should I stay at
home and not come to Kenya and
          
                  
            1:43:59
          
          
            learn about farming and malaria?
Anyway, I mean, I'm
          
                  
            1:44:04
          
          
            uncomfortable with the idea that
not only am I not part of the
          
                  
            1:44:10
          
          
            problem by paying for the
offsets, but also through the
          
                  
            1:44:14
          
          
            billions that my Breakthrough
Energy Group is spending that
          
                  
            1:44:19
          
          
            I'm part of the
          
                  
            1:44:19
          
          
            solution.
          
                  
            1:44:21
          
          
            Adam Curry: I'm good, I'm
virtuous, I spend money
          
                  
            1:44:23
          
          
            John C Dvorak: i There should be
a follow up question. And I
          
                  
            1:44:26
          
          
            could have been the one to ask
it. Even though everyone else
          
                  
            1:44:28
          
          
            should have asked it. Bill. You
used to refuse to fly in private
          
                  
            1:44:32
          
          
            jets and only go commercial
          
                  
            1:44:35
          
          
            Adam Curry: coach and you fly
coach. That's right. I remember
          
                  
            1:44:38
          
          
            they always
          
                  
            1:44:38
          
          
            John C Dvorak: flew coach, in
fact, and the thing of course,
          
                  
            1:44:41
          
          
            the gimmick there was he flew
coach, but he always got
          
                  
            1:44:43
          
          
            upgraded by the airline, because
he was so rich. So they always
          
                  
            1:44:48
          
          
            move in the first class and I
ran into him once on a flight
          
                  
            1:44:50
          
          
            and I went in first class where
he was and chatted with him for
          
                  
            1:44:53
          
          
            a bit and I went back to coach
afterwards, where you belong,
          
                  
            1:44:58
          
          
            where I belong. Marriage. So, so
he used to always do that he
          
                  
            1:45:04
          
          
            refused to get a private jet
until he married and Melinda is
          
                  
            1:45:07
          
          
            the one who got him to
          
                  
            1:45:08
          
          
            Adam Curry: No, no, I think once
he was on that Epstein Lolita
          
                  
            1:45:11
          
          
            Express, he's like, this is the
ship.
          
                  
            1:45:14
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I think that's
what happened. I think he got on
          
                  
            1:45:16
          
          
            the Epstein plane after he got
married.
          
                  
            1:45:18
          
          
            Adam Curry: I'm going to skip
the credit because just not
          
                  
            1:45:21
          
          
            interesting because now that
Africa is I just need to play a
          
                  
            1:45:24
          
          
            couple of Africa clips because
Africa is so on deck. Now, we
          
                  
            1:45:28
          
          
            are going to not not that we
haven't been already but the EU,
          
                  
            1:45:32
          
          
            China, United States, Russia,
all positioning to rape Africa.
          
                  
            1:45:38
          
          
            But we got to change a few
things. First, here's Antonio
          
                  
            1:45:40
          
          
            Contreras, who is the Secretary
General of the United Nations.
          
                  
            1:45:45
          
          
            Unknown: Well, after the opening
of the African Union summit, the
          
                  
            1:45:48
          
          
            UN Secretary General Antonio
Guterres said that the African
          
                  
            1:45:51
          
          
            countries are being denied much
needed debt relief, he sought
          
                  
            1:45:55
          
          
            reforms to the structures of
international finance to better
          
                  
            1:45:58
          
          
            serve the needs of developing
countries.
          
                  
            1:46:01
          
          
            Investing in Africa best ways to
prosperity requires finance and
          
                  
            1:46:06
          
          
            developing countries are
repeatedly left in the lurch.
          
                  
            1:46:10
          
          
            The global financial system
routinely denies them depth
          
                  
            1:46:14
          
          
            relief and concessional
financing, while charging
          
                  
            1:46:18
          
          
            extortionate interest rates. As
a result, vital systems are
          
                  
            1:46:23
          
          
            starved of investment from Elson
education to green technology,
          
                  
            1:46:27
          
          
            social protection and the
creation of new sustainable
          
                  
            1:46:30
          
          
            jobs.
          
                  
            1:46:31
          
          
            Adam Curry: Now this is the
thing we keep hearing is that we
          
                  
            1:46:34
          
          
            need to change international
finance. This is not being done
          
                  
            1:46:38
          
          
            the right way. We've heard we
need to change the leadership at
          
                  
            1:46:42
          
          
            the World Bank because we need
everyone to come together and
          
                  
            1:46:44
          
          
            finance Africa for climate
change. And they got their wish
          
                  
            1:46:49
          
          
            it's not the
          
                  
            1:46:49
          
          
            Unknown: business Kate moody
Jones has sided with the news of
          
                  
            1:46:51
          
          
            the precedence of the World Bank
is stepping down.
          
                  
            1:46:55
          
          
            Early Malpass will be leaving
his post by the end of this
          
                  
            1:46:58
          
          
            June. That's about a year before
his five year term would have
          
                  
            1:47:02
          
          
            expired. The reasons for his
departure were not made clear
          
                  
            1:47:06
          
          
            Adam Curry: and probably to
spend more time with his family.
          
                  
            1:47:08
          
          
            Malpass was appointed
          
                  
            1:47:09
          
          
            Unknown: by the former US
President Donald Trump in 2019.
          
                  
            1:47:13
          
          
            He's overseeing the distribution
of aid to developing countries
          
                  
            1:47:16
          
          
            as well as war torn Ukraine, and
just last week, an initial $1.8
          
                  
            1:47:20
          
          
            billion for Turkey. He has the
courted controversy. Last year,
          
                  
            1:47:25
          
          
            he declined to say whether he
believed human activity
          
                  
            1:47:28
          
          
            contributed to climate change.
He later said he had been
          
                  
            1:47:32
          
          
            misunderstood. The World Bank
has made the green transition
          
                  
            1:47:35
          
          
            and fighting climate change a
key pillar of its mandate.
          
                  
            1:47:39
          
          
            Adam Curry: Okay, so there you
go. We got rid of the problem
          
                  
            1:47:42
          
          
            guy, we can now put everyone's
money to work. And we now have a
          
                  
            1:47:47
          
          
            clear signal. Whenever war is
coming to a country, you first
          
                  
            1:47:54
          
          
            get this report.
          
                  
            1:47:56
          
          
            Unknown: The satellite based
internet soon to be provided by
          
                  
            1:47:59
          
          
            billionaire Elon Musk's high
speed Satellite Internet venture
          
                  
            1:48:02
          
          
            is expected to give students and
teachers in Rwanda access to
          
                  
            1:48:06
          
          
            educational resources and
digital tools. The program is
          
                  
            1:48:09
          
          
            expected to begin this February.
          
                  
            1:48:11
          
          
            Adam Curry: Yeah, don't ever
Elon Musk deploy Starling to a
          
                  
            1:48:15
          
          
            country war is coming. Because
that's the sales job. Once you
          
                  
            1:48:19
          
          
            have it deployed, then you just
flip the switch and sell it to
          
                  
            1:48:21
          
          
            the military under what's it
called? Defense link or
          
                  
            1:48:25
          
          
            whatever. Yeah, same thing.
Yeah, same thing. Only 100 times
          
                  
            1:48:30
          
          
            as expensive. So Africa for and
luckily Dave Ackerman is
          
                  
            1:48:36
          
          
            scouring Africa news every
single day. That because that's
          
                  
            1:48:40
          
          
            the only news we'll get about it
except that everyone has been to
          
                  
            1:48:44
          
          
            different African countries. The
Russians, the Chinese, we have
          
                  
            1:48:48
          
          
            the Brits, everyone's everyone's
going to Africa getting it all.
          
                  
            1:48:52
          
          
            John C Dvorak: You're giving it
up behind the scenes somewhere.
          
                  
            1:48:54
          
          
            Adam Curry: What do you mean
they're giving it up? Divi?
          
                  
            1:48:57
          
          
            Divi? Divi? Oh, yeah, possible
very possible. We say
          
                  
            1:49:07
          
          
            John C Dvorak: well, if you join
my climb, it lets you play this
          
                  
            1:49:09
          
          
            whole clip of mine. NPR clip on
DeSantis you have to look it up
          
                  
            1:49:13
          
          
            because it's from a couple of
shows ago DeSantis and climate
          
                  
            1:49:17
          
          
            change
          
                  
            1:49:19
          
          
            Adam Curry: after Santos came
back into the picture. Got it.
          
                  
            1:49:24
          
          
            Unknown: Florida Governor Ron
DeSantis has touted it
          
                  
            1:49:26
          
          
            Adam Curry: was DeSantis we're
doing it wrong. We said DeSantis
          
                  
            1:49:30
          
          
            de Santos its DeSantis Florida
          
                  
            1:49:32
          
          
            Unknown: Governor Ron DeSantis
has touted a record amount of
          
                  
            1:49:35
          
          
            spending to help his state
prepare for the effects of
          
                  
            1:49:38
          
          
            climate change. But his policy
on that front is coming under
          
                  
            1:49:41
          
          
            scrutiny by many residents still
reeling from Hurricane Ian. Amy
          
                  
            1:49:45
          
          
            green of W MFE and Orlando
reports.
          
                  
            1:49:48
          
          
            Jason Diaz awoke in the middle
of the night to the sound of
          
                  
            1:49:51
          
          
            trickling water.
          
                  
            1:49:52
          
          
            When I stepped up. I was already
ankle deep in water.
          
                  
            1:49:56
          
          
            The next few hours were a blur
of evacuating family members and
          
                  
            1:49:59
          
          
            neighbors Whereas in swimming
through five feet of water. A
          
                  
            1:50:03
          
          
            few days later, Diaz sat near a
noisy idling bus outside the
          
                  
            1:50:06
          
          
            Kissimmee Civic Center, which
had been turned into a shelter
          
                  
            1:50:10
          
          
            for the displace like him.
Virtually everything he owned
          
                  
            1:50:14
          
          
            was swamped back at his
apartment.
          
                  
            1:50:16
          
          
            Massaro about losing my stuff is
just that I had. And I might get
          
                  
            1:50:21
          
          
            emotional. I had a collection of
collectibles for my grandkids
          
                  
            1:50:25
          
          
            that I've been collecting for 30
years. And that's all gone.
          
                  
            1:50:29
          
          
            When Hurricane Ian hit Florida.
It destroyed coastal communities
          
                  
            1:50:33
          
          
            in southwest Florida, before
causing widespread flooding
          
                  
            1:50:36
          
          
            across the state's interior. The
hurricane show is what states
          
                  
            1:50:39
          
          
            like Florida faces climate
change leads to more extreme
          
                  
            1:50:42
          
          
            weather DeSantis has focused his
climate change policy on
          
                  
            1:50:46
          
          
            resilience. Under his
leadership, the state has put
          
                  
            1:50:49
          
          
            more than a billion dollars
toward hardening infrastructure
          
                  
            1:50:52
          
          
            against rising seas and more
destructive storms. The governor
          
                  
            1:50:56
          
          
            Republican faces reelection next
month and is considered a
          
                  
            1:51:00
          
          
            potential front runner for the
GOP presidential nomination in
          
                  
            1:51:04
          
          
            2024. During a stop in Daytona
Beach, DeSantis said he's
          
                  
            1:51:08
          
          
            noticed that newer
infrastructures seem to fare
          
                  
            1:51:11
          
          
            better against hurricane Ian,
the stuff
          
                  
            1:51:13
          
          
            that was new same with some of
the homes you do see the impact
          
                  
            1:51:17
          
          
            of that. And so I think we were
right to to do things like we
          
                  
            1:51:20
          
          
            have with the resilient
coastline
          
                  
            1:51:22
          
          
            DeSantis this program was signed
into law in 2021, which means
          
                  
            1:51:26
          
          
            it's unlikely to have had a big
impact on infrastructure before
          
                  
            1:51:30
          
          
            the hurricane. Environmental
groups say the governor's
          
                  
            1:51:33
          
          
            climate change. Okay.
          
                  
            1:51:35
          
          
            Adam Curry: That was really
pretty boring.
          
                  
            1:51:37
          
          
            John C Dvorak: It was very
boring. That's probably what
          
                  
            1:51:38
          
          
            wasn't played.
          
                  
            1:51:40
          
          
            Adam Curry: What was that
actually about? Wait, he was
          
                  
            1:51:45
          
          
            John C Dvorak: climatologist was
going to be a good guy to vote
          
                  
            1:51:47
          
          
            for
          
                  
            1:51:48
          
          
            Adam Curry: was that MTD? told
me it was?
          
                  
            1:51:50
          
          
            John C Dvorak: No that was NPR?
Goodness. Which makes no sense
          
                  
            1:51:54
          
          
            if you think about it.
          
                  
            1:51:55
          
          
            Adam Curry: Oh, that rule
actually kind of hurt. Yeah. Did
          
                  
            1:51:59
          
          
            you have something else before
we? Here's I'll tell you what
          
                  
            1:52:01
          
          
            we're gonna do. We have not even
touched on Ohio. I know
          
                  
            1:52:05
          
          
            everyone's so excited to talk
about Ohio. So we'll have to
          
                  
            1:52:08
          
          
            talk about Ohio, Ohio, Ohio,
Ohio. Because that's all we can
          
                  
            1:52:12
          
          
            talk about because it's the
political gambit of the hour.
          
                  
            1:52:17
          
          
            Abused by every every politician
almost from the get go. And also
          
                  
            1:52:22
          
          
            about Turkey a turkey ADA semana
news we should talk about there
          
                  
            1:52:27
          
          
            but before that, I'd like to say
in the morning to you the man
          
                  
            1:52:30
          
          
            who put the sea in the
fraudulent claims of fraud
          
                  
            1:52:33
          
          
            ladies and gentlemen, please say
hello to my friend on the other
          
                  
            1:52:35
          
          
            end Mr. John C. davara.
          
                  
            1:52:39
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Morning to you
Mr. Adam curiosity in the
          
                  
            1:52:41
          
          
            morning all ships to see boots
to the ground feet in the air,
          
                  
            1:52:43
          
          
            substance and water and all the
days and nights out in the
          
                  
            1:52:45
          
          
            morning
          
                  
            1:52:46
          
          
            Adam Curry: to the trolls over
there in the troll room. We've
          
                  
            1:52:48
          
          
            had a lot of trolls hanging out
in the troll room and you can be
          
                  
            1:52:50
          
          
            one if you want troll room.io
You can log in right that you do
          
                  
            1:52:54
          
          
            need an email address that
actually works. Some trolls
          
                  
            1:52:58
          
          
            thing to oh, I can circumvent
this by doing a fake email
          
                  
            1:53:01
          
          
            address. No, because you have to
confirm that you're that you're
          
                  
            1:53:04
          
          
            there. So we have so we can
register trolls and track you
          
                  
            1:53:08
          
          
            down and shoot you. So let's
count
          
                  
            1:53:15
          
          
            2294 I think that's a good
number.
          
                  
            1:53:19
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Yeah, you know,
it's pretty standard for Sunday.
          
                  
            1:53:22
          
          
            Adam Curry: Well, that's not
bad. It's been worse, that's for
          
                  
            1:53:24
          
          
            sure. trolls, TROLLS, you can
also become a troll in the
          
                  
            1:53:29
          
          
            following manner get a new app,
a modern app that actually has
          
                  
            1:53:35
          
          
            all these capabilities and we
have a new website it used to be
          
                  
            1:53:38
          
          
            new podcast apps.com still in
play. Now we have podcast
          
                  
            1:53:43
          
          
            apps.com These are the ones you
want. And guess what not on
          
                  
            1:53:46
          
          
            their Apple Spotify podcast
apps.com You can find many
          
                  
            1:53:51
          
          
            modern podcast apps where you
can actually get an alert go
          
                  
            1:53:55
          
          
            straight into the troll room
troll wrong here the live stream
          
                  
            1:53:58
          
          
            and you get all your podcasts in
there as well at pod bursts
          
                  
            1:54:01
          
          
            podcast attic Casta curio caster
all of these work perfectly.
          
                  
            1:54:06
          
          
            Yeah, now let us Oh, of course
we also have no agenda
          
                  
            1:54:09
          
          
            social.com where you can you can
follow Adam at no agenda
          
                  
            1:54:14
          
          
            social.com Jhansi Dvorak at no
agenda social.com No digital
          
                  
            1:54:17
          
          
            bill of rights over there. You
do whatever you want, pretty
          
                  
            1:54:19
          
          
            much just Don't piss me off
because then you know, I can
          
                  
            1:54:21
          
          
            kick you off if I feel like it.
Or if John tells me to, which
          
                  
            1:54:24
          
          
            happens a lot. John will say
kick that guy off. Okay.
          
                  
            1:54:30
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I'd like twice
okay. All right in five years.
          
                  
            1:54:34
          
          
            Adam Curry: Now, let us thank
the artists. The no agenda
          
                  
            1:54:37
          
          
            artists who are incredibly kind
with their value they contribute
          
                  
            1:54:42
          
          
            to the show every single show
while we're doing it live they
          
                  
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            are creating art. We will use
one of these pieces will choose
          
                  
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            it right after the show was
done. We thank the artist for
          
                  
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            episode 1530. We titled that one
red queen Roger roundy had it it
          
                  
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            just made us laugh. It had kind
of it had a nice appeal to it
          
                  
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            too. was the what are those
flowers of those like? Those
          
                  
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            yellow flowers?
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: This is a flower
of some sort.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Like a water lily of
some sort. Yeah, it looked it
          
                  
            1:55:12
          
          
            looks a bit like a lily. I'm
sorry about your pipeline love
          
                  
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            CIA and curry Dvorak separated
by a little cartoonish bomb. It
          
                  
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            somehow it struck the right
chord with us.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: It definitely
made you laugh a lot. Yeah, I
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: did. Well, I laugh.
That's kind of what I'm looking
          
                  
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            for. I'm always looking for a
laugh that makes a cheap laugh.
          
                  
            1:55:33
          
          
            Yes, that makes both of us.
chuckle is even better. There
          
                  
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            were a couple of ones in there
that were that were pretty
          
                  
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            cheap. Let's see. A lot has been
added. I can see now. We
          
                  
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            actually debated quite a while
about the the aircraft with the
          
                  
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            pins.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: With the preamps
I use it for the newsletter. I
          
                  
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            saw that now. What was at issue
with this? Well, for one thing,
          
                  
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            it's not an F 22 Raptor. Yes, I
believe that's an F 16. So that
          
                  
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            Oh, Pa of epic proportions.
Obviously. It's also clipart
          
                  
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            which was fine. He's probably
licenses, but it's been around a
          
                  
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            little too much that clipart
I've seen too often.
          
                  
            1:56:16
          
          
            Adam Curry: Yeah, it was really
good. We always do the Google
          
                  
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            Image Search and but the
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: pins were
dynamite. Yes. I mean, we could
          
                  
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            have used it
          
                  
            1:56:25
          
          
            Adam Curry: but we're just
really afraid of comics or
          
                  
            1:56:27
          
          
            Blogger giving a shit so he's
gonna
          
                  
            1:56:29
          
          
            John C Dvorak: go off. It's
really fun is really so who
          
                  
            1:56:31
          
          
            created the comic strip blogger
had a really good piece, but we
          
                  
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            both knew just by looking at
that it was done by AI so
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: automatically off
the list. We thought the was
          
                  
            1:56:43
          
          
            that Kareem Abdul Jabbar Top Gun
by networks. Very funny. very
          
                  
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            racist. We figured that wouldn't
work. Oh, she had her. Which one
          
                  
            1:56:53
          
          
            was this? She's the pilot. She's
the Top Gun pilot. We knew that
          
                  
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            we would be called up for
racist. We just saw it like nah,
          
                  
            1:57:01
          
          
            that's not gonna work.
          
                  
            1:57:03
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's no
good.
          
                  
            1:57:05
          
          
            Adam Curry: l Biden, which is
kind of funny, but we don't like
          
                  
            1:57:08
          
          
            del Biden. We don't like and the
green el Biden.
          
                  
            1:57:13
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well, that's the
comic strip blogger, one that
          
                  
            1:57:15
          
          
            obviously can't draw. That's
right. That's the one that we
          
                  
            1:57:18
          
          
            hated because it's a and I liked
the one next to it to this
          
                  
            1:57:21
          
          
            sneaky Bearcat. But it's a
little bit very obscure,
          
                  
            1:57:24
          
          
            Adam Curry: very obscure,
obscure. Then there was some
          
                  
            1:57:27
          
          
            poker stuff. Some confusing
stuff. What was this lien which
          
                  
            1:57:34
          
          
            I still don't understand still
talking about balloons.
          
                  
            1:57:39
          
          
            Capitalist agenda had a red
queen rising, I'd say semi
          
                  
            1:57:43
          
          
            cheese cake. Which we like, but
no one would understand it.
          
                  
            1:57:51
          
          
            Everything seemed messy to me. I
mean, it was
          
                  
            1:57:55
          
          
            John C Dvorak: it was it wasn't
a show with a lot of material
          
                  
            1:57:58
          
          
            that would be amenable for
Appspot art.
          
                  
            1:58:01
          
          
            Adam Curry: So you're saying
that we failed. We fell down? We
          
                  
            1:58:03
          
          
            didn't have we didn't have a
show that has good to topics? Or
          
                  
            1:58:08
          
          
            good gags or good job?
          
                  
            1:58:09
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well, yeah,
that's what I'm saying. It's
          
                  
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            possible. It's possible.
          
                  
            1:58:13
          
          
            Adam Curry: It's possible. But
anyway, Roger roundy I think it
          
                  
            1:58:16
          
          
            was very surprised himself. Oh,
yeah.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: No, his he's the
pieces that when he's one. It's
          
                  
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            never for his good art.
          
                  
            1:58:23
          
          
            Adam Curry: Right. When he when
he swing into swing out of his
          
                  
            1:58:26
          
          
            cleats. It never happens. Just
throw something out there. Yeah,
          
                  
            1:58:30
          
          
            we'll go for that. Thank you
very much Roger round and we
          
                  
            1:58:33
          
          
            appreciate that. And the work of
all of the artists who support
          
                  
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            no agenda with value for value.
We ask for your time, your
          
                  
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            talent, your treasure. Go look
at Gitmo, the Gitmo list.org You
          
                  
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            see all of the things that
people have put up websites,
          
                  
            1:58:45
          
          
            including a no agenda show.net
including no agenda meetups.com.
          
                  
            1:58:50
          
          
            I mean, the only thing we've
actually done ourselves is
          
                  
            1:58:51
          
          
            DeVore act.org/na. And it's
problematic. So and by the way,
          
                  
            1:58:56
          
          
            it's changing out here getting
the change in first quarter,
          
                  
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            first quarter. Now we'd like to
thank our producers we have
          
                  
            1:59:05
          
          
            Yeah, let
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: me let me do the
first one because the second
          
                  
            1:59:07
          
          
            one's by special request. Okay.
And can I just one here just
          
                  
            1:59:13
          
          
            Adam Curry: finish my rap about
producers? Sure.
          
                  
            1:59:18
          
          
            John C Dvorak: What was it?
          
                  
            1:59:18
          
          
            Adam Curry: Well, our producers,
they bring the treasure part of
          
                  
            1:59:22
          
          
            time, talent and treasure. In
addition to that, they get
          
                  
            1:59:26
          
          
            credits so we have Associate
Executive Producer $200 or above
          
                  
            1:59:30
          
          
            $300 above gets you an executive
producer. These are forever
          
                  
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            credits you can use wherever
credits are recognized and
          
                  
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            accepted. IMDB is a good place
to go take a look and we have
          
                  
            1:59:39
          
          
            some very nice donations today.
We're quite happy with you go
          
                  
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            for it.
          
                  
            1:59:44
          
          
            John C Dvorak: We're already
happy with this one for sure.
          
                  
            1:59:47
          
          
            This is Kim keep keeper of the
nutty fluffers who's been around
          
                  
            1:59:53
          
          
            and she's in Hubbard, Oregon.
She says right Since she even
          
                  
            2:00:00
          
          
            with $2,000
          
                  
            2:00:02
          
          
            Adam Curry: Whoa yeah we are
happy with that one man
          
                  
            2:00:07
          
          
            John C Dvorak: came to this
conclusion after the deep fake
          
                  
            2:00:09
          
          
            of Joe Biden rapping at the end
of show 1528 pushed her over the
          
                  
            2:00:14
          
          
            edge. I knew then in there I had
that I do listen. Emphasize on
          
                  
            2:00:20
          
          
            due to the best podcast in the
universe. I also need to call my
          
                  
            2:00:24
          
          
            dad John and my mom melody out
as douchebags. One more I will
          
                  
            2:00:35
          
          
            continue to harassment until
they donate individually nice.
          
                  
            2:00:40
          
          
            Also, I need to ask for a little
upgrade or title upgrade. From
          
                  
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            this point forth. I'd like to be
known as Countess Kim, keeper of
          
                  
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            the nutty fluffers thank you so
much for all that you to do. I'm
          
                  
            2:00:53
          
          
            going to show you an upgrade
list. I'm not sure I believe I
          
                  
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            do. But classy count just Kim of
the nutty fluffers in Hubbard,
          
                  
            2:01:01
          
          
            Oregon that she needs some
jingles. Okay. All right to D to
          
                  
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            F cancer karma.
          
                  
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            Unknown: Okay.
          
                  
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            You've got
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: no, I just want to
check because we have we have a
          
                  
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            producer to thank then. End of
show mix producer for that Joe
          
                  
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            Biden mix. Was it this one this
books? No, it was. It was not.
          
                  
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            It was not the previous one.
What episode was it? Did she
          
                  
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            say?
          
                  
            2:01:34
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Oh,
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: I think was 1529.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: Well, whatever it
was, there was a good rap that
          
                  
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            was done by a Joe Biden voice.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Alright, and I just
want to make sure we give props
          
                  
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            as che Z. I think it was che Z
with a tweet Biden bops
          
                  
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            infomercial. I think that's the
one. So we appreciate you go the
          
                  
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            end of show mixers, producers
helping us out in all kinds of
          
                  
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            different ways. Beautiful. Thank
you very much. And thank you.
          
                  
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            Yes, she's a keeper. The naughty
fluffers is on the upgrade list.
          
                  
            2:02:03
          
          
            Now we go to Philip Stasek, who
was specifically requested I
          
                  
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            read this one out because he
says my sister would have
          
                  
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            appreciated your sultry voice.
As a side note. This insert Dame
          
                  
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            hood is a switcheroo and
dedication to my bright and
          
                  
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            beautiful sister Jessica, who
tragically lost to the sea to
          
                  
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            power of the ocean while
vacationing together in the Free
          
                  
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            State of Florida last week. She
was the oldest of three siblings
          
                  
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            aged 43 And the only daughter to
my parents she leaves behind her
          
                  
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            loving husband Mike. They were
together for almost 26 years
          
                  
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            highschool sweethearts started
dating at age 17. And they never
          
                  
            2:02:39
          
          
            had a fight. My sister hit me in
the mouth, the beginning of the
          
                  
            2:02:43
          
          
            nonsense, and they're still
trying to sell as COVID Back in
          
                  
            2:02:47
          
          
            March of 2020. I've listened to
every podcast since and always
          
                  
            2:02:51
          
          
            appreciated the conversation and
laughter with my sister while
          
                  
            2:02:54
          
          
            discussing the latest episodes.
Unfortunately, I've been a
          
                  
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            douchebag but I know my sister
was part of the Sustainable
          
                  
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            donation for some time and
proudly contributed to the best
          
                  
            2:03:01
          
          
            podcast in the universe working
towards her Dame hood. I wanted
          
                  
            2:03:05
          
          
            this donation to ensure that can
sheet that she can sit at the
          
                  
            2:03:08
          
          
            big table in heaven and
celebrate her Dame name Dame
          
                  
            2:03:11
          
          
            delphinium Jessore. That's
$1,000 By the way, at the
          
                  
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            roundtable Please serve up some
grass fed beef from the local
          
                  
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            Ranch, pure h2o, fresh garden
vegetables and herbs and post
          
                  
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            office some heavenly hunk chunks
whatever that is. This donation
          
                  
            2:03:27
          
          
            also goes out as a plea to the
no agenda nation to help her
          
                  
            2:03:30
          
          
            husband Mikey to try to navigate
and land back on his feet
          
                  
            2:03:33
          
          
            through this difficult time. His
world has literally been flipped
          
                  
            2:03:36
          
          
            upside down she was his light
and his everything please
          
                  
            2:03:38
          
          
            consider donating to the best
podcast in the in the universe.
          
                  
            2:03:41
          
          
            But also please consider
donating to justice GoFundMe
          
                  
            2:03:44
          
          
            page from Mike please see links
below to her obituary and the
          
                  
            2:03:47
          
          
            GoFundMe page. John see I still
hold the bottle of wine that she
          
                  
            2:03:51
          
          
            has that she got from me for my
40th birthday based on your
          
                  
            2:03:54
          
          
            personal recommendation. She was
very impressed by your prompt
          
                  
            2:03:58
          
          
            response. This will now be
reserved for a very special day
          
                  
            2:04:02
          
          
            to opened likely her birthday.
Lastly, please call out Steve
          
                  
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            from work as a douchebag in the
obituary strong and a yacht
          
                  
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            karma, please. Okay. Fantastic.
You got it man.
          
                  
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            Unknown: You've got
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: ah, Harmer and I
have ordered everything you
          
                  
            2:04:22
          
          
            requested for the for the
roundtable for her. Thank you
          
                  
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            very much sorry. And condolences
Of course,
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: sir Nacho
Alcatraz is up from Mexico. And
          
                  
            2:04:37
          
          
            he says a poem he says no agenda
podcast oh so bright. Adam and
          
                  
            2:04:41
          
          
            John bring truth to light. It's
good. News deconstruction
          
                  
            2:04:47
          
          
            saintly, saved listen and learn.
Be truly brave. Sincerely, Chet
          
                  
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            GPT and Sir Nacho Alcatraz. He
had a done by the machine is
          
                  
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            that what he's trying to claim
your only Zippy can do Oh, and
          
                  
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            he came in with $500. I'm gonna
go and read Brock Robinson's
          
                  
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            Oxford, Alabama 333 76 I don't
have a note from him. I'll look
          
                  
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            and I'll look Well, Adam reads
the next fabulous note as
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: well give him a
double up karma just in case you
          
                  
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            don't find the note you've got
          
                  
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            Unknown: karma.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Our next notes is
3333 dot 33. Our favorite
          
                  
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            executive producer donation
number from the dirty Jersey
          
                  
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            horror in Gladewater. Texas.
That's a guy by the way. No
          
                  
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            jingles no karma. We'd like to
start off by saying no agenda
          
                  
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            podcasts and no agenda community
as a whole has definitely
          
                  
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            changed the trajectory of my
life not a joke, to the perils
          
                  
            2:05:40
          
          
            of COVID and into the other
guiding principles such as sound
          
                  
            2:05:43
          
          
            money, Bitcoin and sound food,
the beef initiative, y'all have
          
                  
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            been a steady voice and constant
source of grounding. Thanks for
          
                  
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            letting me ride along in this
fantastic journey. No exit
          
                  
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            strategies for you. Yeah, he
wanted me to do that in the
          
                  
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            voice of the soup Nazi. With
this donation I surpassed the
          
                  
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            threshold to claim night status
I'd like to be known as Sir
          
                  
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            dirty Jersey whore of the East
Texas Piney Woods. At the
          
                  
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            roundtable. I'd like to request
Denver cut steak and a fresh new
          
                  
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            england IPA from forgotten
roads. Ales quick shout out to
          
                  
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            Texas Joe organized to meet up
in early 2020 at a brewery in
          
                  
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            Magnolia Texas. I was there just
minding my own business. When
          
                  
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            the subject of podcasts came up
in the tiny Taproom area. Joe
          
                  
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            hit me in the mouth. I didn't
even realize it at the time.
          
                  
            2:06:23
          
          
            Cheers Texas Joe. Now I host a
monthly meetup with the help of
          
                  
            2:06:26
          
          
            Fletcher from hug story podcast
in hopes of inspiring some other
          
                  
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            hapless victim. Thanks for being
awesome. Dirty Jersey whore. And
          
                  
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            thank you, you know, he's like
six foot eight. The dirty Jersey
          
                  
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            whore is yeah, it's quite quite
a dude. Quite a dude. Big, big
          
                  
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            guy, big guy and
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: Agnes. Agnes Bay
log and a beer in Washington.
          
                  
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            And he was ever been to Seattle
and rented a car and knows where
          
                  
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            that is. Jared John C. And Adam.
This is my first donation please
          
                  
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            de douche me.
          
                  
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            Unknown: You've been de deuced
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: I was hitting the
mouse on the Barnhardt podcast
          
                  
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            in December 2021. Your media
deconstruction probably saved my
          
                  
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            life and it certainly saved my
sanity. I'm one of those
          
                  
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            traditional Latin Mass Catholics
originally identified by the ER
          
                  
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            that was recently identified by
the FBI as a possible domestic
          
                  
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            terrorist. We must be doing
something right anywho I love
          
                  
            2:07:21
          
          
            you guys. Thanks for making me
laugh and opening my eyes have
          
                  
            2:07:24
          
          
            loved hearing about Adam and the
keepers faith journey. Lots of
          
                  
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            Catholics praying for you guys
over the Barnhardt podcasts
          
                  
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            including myself. There's
something you know, no Karna but
          
                  
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            a Sharpton jingle Can you bear
it Christ is king. Big hugs.
          
                  
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            Agnes from Buren, Washington,
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: which is out by the
airport. Apparently there's no
          
                  
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            real contract. Leon Atkinson
Martinez, California to 1870 and
          
                  
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            I have a typewritten note here.
I've enclosed to 1872 Mark my
          
                  
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            53rd NATO anniversary. Two years
ago, I felt nostalgic for
          
                  
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            listening to the daily source
code I'm grateful to have read
          
                  
            2:08:04
          
          
            just rediscovered a couple of
people who aren't totally full
          
                  
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            of bull crap. Everyone else
seems to have lost their minds
          
                  
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            of late Yes. Well, when you're
part of the no agenda, community
          
                  
            2:08:12
          
          
            connection is protection. But
your conversations have been a
          
                  
            2:08:15
          
          
            calming respite. I look forward
to them on my regular walks in
          
                  
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            the hills above the Carquinez
Strait. I guess this offering of
          
                  
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            value qualifies me for a de
douching
          
                  
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            Unknown: dee doo Oh,
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: but I'm gonna pull a
switcheroo and give all the
          
                  
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            credit to my wife Vicki 25 years
and we've never had a fight.
          
                  
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            Aside from being the best life
partner she helps me run 18
          
                  
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            intelligence 18 inc.com Our
humble internet consultancy Oh,
          
                  
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            that's interesting. I should
look that up one eight i n t
          
                  
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            18 inc.com. For jingles I
challenge you to dig up the
          
                  
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            power of pure intellect I looked
for it. That's the daily source
          
                  
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            code opener loss. I have no idea
where it is. I don't think it's
          
                  
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            their follow up with some karma
that I can do. I will take that
          
                  
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            as a signal to begin meditation
on loving kindness toward
          
                  
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            myself. My family nights dame's
two of you, and even all those
          
                  
            2:09:05
          
          
            people out there who are still
100% full of bull crap, aka
          
                  
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            grist for the mill. And you
signs Leon Atkinson? All right,
          
                  
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            I'm gonna make the switcheroo
right now.
          
                  
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            Unknown: You've got
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: Aida in Richmond
Hill, Ontario, Canada, to 6453
          
                  
            2:09:29
          
          
            just made a donation from Canada
for 373 So we should upgrade
          
                  
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            this person to executive
producer. But the Pay Pal pays
          
                  
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            didn't give me an option for a
short note. Tom Peroni is the
          
                  
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            person who introduced me to your
show several years Tom Peroni
          
                  
            2:09:43
          
          
            donation several years ago, I
haven't looked back since this
          
                  
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            is the message I would like to
share. By the way, her interest
          
                  
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            or her event I'm sorry, the the
intro into the note is longer
          
                  
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            than the note. Yes. Just say you
just And the note is fine. Thank
          
                  
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            you for all you do. This world
needs sanity. the sanity of your
          
                  
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            show requests the relationship
karma for my daughter Emily, who
          
                  
            2:10:08
          
          
            has been searching for an
injected partner for a while.
          
                  
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            He's out there somewhere. Cheers
later.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Yeah, well that
means we gotta roll out the
          
                  
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            goat. You've got the goat always
helps. Let us know if you find
          
                  
            2:10:23
          
          
            him. Work fuller is in Batavia,
New York with a $250 donation
          
                  
            2:10:30
          
          
            and writes in on very handsome
looks like Bicentennial
          
                  
            2:10:34
          
          
            stationery. Buzz plus kill. Just
because it's the best podcast in
          
                  
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            the universe calmer for all
Gitmo nation because we all need
          
                  
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            it from work ie fuller.
          
                  
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            Unknown: You've got karma.
          
                  
            2:10:50
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Sir Jeremy chum
fatty in Oakville, California
          
                  
            2:10:55
          
          
            wine country. 22233 ITM John and
Adam Great show have some money.
          
                  
            2:11:01
          
          
            Sir. Jeremy.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Thank you, Daddy. We
always love the ducks quarter.
          
                  
            2:11:04
          
          
            ODEX Cory Tibbets, Westminster,
Colorado 220 dot 21. This
          
                  
            2:11:08
          
          
            donation about
          
                  
            2:11:09
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Bradley. You love
Bradley.
          
                  
            2:11:11
          
          
            Adam Curry: I'm sorry, Bradley.
Two, two 2.22 Road ducks. That's
          
                  
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            the road ducks. I was thinking
of Bradley Fox from pesky
          
                  
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            Island, Maine. Thank you both
for all you do. Would you add me
          
                  
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            to the birthday list for Oh 222
You bet. It's a little early.
          
                  
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            But you bet. You're here. You're
on it.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: Cory Tibbets, the
aforementioned in Westminister,
          
                  
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            Colorado, to 20 dot 21. This
donation of 220 21 is an honor
          
                  
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            my smokin hot girlfriend, Amy
Trevor, and our two year
          
                  
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            anniversary. I love you. And I
look forward to many years of
          
                  
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            adventure I had because the
surgery is now complete. And
          
                  
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            we're living but to but
indefinitely. Thanks for being
          
                  
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            my best friend and lover
relationship karma to all that's
          
                  
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            $220.21
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: What kind of surgery
is that?
          
                  
            2:12:03
          
          
            John C Dvorak: They've now
attached it to but
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: I guess in some
pictures,
          
                  
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            Unknown: you've got karma
          
                  
            2:12:10
          
          
            Adam Curry: over to Nashville,
Tennessee 220 from Kirsty
          
                  
            2:12:13
          
          
            Barnett's first heard Adam on
Glenn Beck that donation hit my
          
                  
            2:12:17
          
          
            husband in the mouth now we
listen to every show many
          
                  
            2:12:20
          
          
            blessings to you and John
although I really hate the D
          
                  
            2:12:23
          
          
            word. I suppose I must request a
de douching you know jingles no
          
                  
            2:12:28
          
          
            karma actually a Dred Scott who
does our chapters gave me a new
          
                  
            2:12:31
          
          
            word. You can instead of a
douche pouch you can say a
          
                  
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            douche bag, a juice pouch.
That's what he said. That's
          
                  
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            gross. D D pouching. And D
juicing D deuced
          
                  
            2:12:49
          
          
            John C Dvorak: pouch. You know
if you don't like the word
          
                  
            2:12:52
          
          
            Adam Curry: don't don't use it
at all. Yeah.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: Sir Eric's up.
He's the last guy here on this
          
                  
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            list of Associate Executive
producers and executive producer
          
                  
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            season. Good old Murfreesboro,
Tennessee. Dear John and Adam. I
          
                  
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            request all karma possible. All
karma for Melanie am in Texas.
          
                  
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            Thank you, sir Eric Knight of
Sam hain.
          
                  
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            Unknown: You've got
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Carmen now those are
the Executive Associate
          
                  
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            Executive producers. Do you have
a few more to thank down to the
          
                  
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            50s and John's gonna do that
while I prepare our meetup
          
                  
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            reports and our Daming ceremony
which is on deck today?
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: Well, let's start
off with Christine in Raleigh,
          
                  
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            North Carolina $133.33 followed
by Belinda Schreurs sch R e u r
          
                  
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            s in Devon meadows, Australia.
And it's a switcheroo for
          
                  
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            smoking smoking hot has been
mark for his 57th birthday which
          
                  
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            is coming up on the list. Thomas
Baird, in Tilburg Netherlands.
          
                  
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            Another birthday donation. I'm
not seeing any switcheroo or
          
                  
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            anything so let's go to Kevin if
Na came in. One One roared
          
                  
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            dicks. Kevin Pfizer burger Fagor
berg is 100 He descended a note
          
                  
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            which is pastries just a short
notes and great show. Yeah. Ryan
          
                  
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            Ronnie Chambliss in Attica,
Indiana 100. Another birthday
          
                  
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            Mark handle in Vernal, Utah.
100. Sir Kevin McLaughlin, right
          
                  
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            there following it up, he's up
to number 134 135 some
          
                  
            2:14:31
          
          
            outrageous number of boob
donations of 808 followed by
          
                  
            2:14:36
          
          
            Steven of the pop Qudra in Fort
Collins, Colorado, and 808 is
          
                  
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            the first time on the boob
trainees a de douching. You've
          
                  
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            been de deuced Jason maror 80
bucks and Vancouver Washington.
          
                  
            2:14:52
          
          
            Raymond Bressler in Arlington,
Washington 6996 Serene minutes
          
                  
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            Is that sir Rick? That's a good
one. Well, we have a new back
          
                  
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            office and they don't know that
it was nicknames off the top of
          
                  
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            their head has to be written on
the done the well he can't
          
                  
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            because this is a bank check. I
think it sir Rick Ross, Mark
          
                  
            2:15:15
          
          
            Rosinski and Los Altos,
California 6969. Impressed by
          
                  
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            the show Blue Moon bossman
Bozeman, Blue Moon Bozeman and
          
                  
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            Belgrade, Montana 67 Michael
Vivi errs and Sanborn 10 New
          
                  
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            Hampshire 6633. Kevin O'Brien in
Chicago, Illinois 606. Michael
          
                  
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            Myers in Mandeville, Louisiana
5510 Nisa de douching
          
                  
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            Unknown: de deuced.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: Dean Roker 5510
Armando Guerrera in Bandera
          
                  
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            Texas, hey,
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: you know these the
guy who when spelled inspired
          
                  
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            mailman, Dan to donate on the
last show $500 And he used to be
          
                  
            2:16:02
          
          
            my mail carrier in Austin. Guess
what? He's now moved 30 minutes
          
                  
            2:16:07
          
          
            down the road to Carville. He's
following me he's stalking me.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: He probably is
your handler.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: I hope so.
          
                  
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            John C Dvorak: I want to Mondo
get donate 55 clays Henry in
          
                  
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            Rancho Palos Verdes, California
5242 Andrew Benz and Imperial
          
                  
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            Missouri 5005. Trent Trueblood
in Scottsdale Arizona 5001. And
          
                  
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            onward with the $50 donors name
and location if I have both
          
                  
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            gadget freak in Western Springs,
Illinois Andrew gusik In Sir
          
                  
            2:16:40
          
          
            Andrew in Greensboro, North
Carolina Tatiana Prince in
          
                  
            2:16:43
          
          
            Hollywood, Florida, Joe Oswald
and Lithia Florida, Nathan
          
                  
            2:16:48
          
          
            Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee
Stephen Schumacher in Xenia,
          
                  
            2:16:52
          
          
            Ohio Peter odo in Ridge New
York. Alexandre ver, ver de HO
          
                  
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            and Gig Harbor, Washington Scott
lavender and gunnery, Texas,
          
                  
            2:17:02
          
          
            Leanne Shipley and Covington are
Covington, Washington, Daniel
          
                  
            2:17:07
          
          
            Galloway in Marietta Georgia
Allen Fletcher in Rio Verde,
          
                  
            2:17:11
          
          
            Arizona and last but not least,
surgery wing and Roth in Saugus
          
                  
            2:17:16
          
          
            California want to thank these
people for making this show? A
          
                  
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            reality show 1534
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: We have to make
goods the first one from James
          
                  
            2:17:24
          
          
            Nelson had to go back and listen
I think when I was looking for
          
                  
            2:17:28
          
          
            for jingles for one of the
donors somehow he got skipped
          
                  
            2:17:30
          
          
            there was no no to got lost he's
in the vortex. But now we've got
          
                  
            2:17:34
          
          
            him a crystal on st he says I
saw out of the most recent
          
                  
            2:17:37
          
          
            segment on JRE broken donation
and thought he would be
          
                  
            2:17:40
          
          
            interested in exploring some of
Jay Dyer's content yes I shall
          
                  
            2:17:43
          
          
            take a look at that. He says God
bless you John Adam. He wanted a
          
                  
            2:17:48
          
          
            couple of jingles a freedom pew
pew mac and cheese and it's so
          
                  
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            juicy a play that well played
now for mac and cheese mac and
          
                  
            2:18:00
          
          
            cheese Iran and it's so juicy
there you go and to make good
          
                  
            2:18:04
          
          
            for Dame Elizabeth from show
1499 Wow. Apologies for the way
          
                  
            2:18:09
          
          
            overdue follow up note. Yes
indeed. Dame Elizabeth not sure
          
                  
            2:18:13
          
          
            where time has gone I saw that
the lottery was at 33 million
          
                  
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            took us assigned to dig up this
email and resend we didn't
          
                  
            2:18:20
          
          
            receive our producer credits for
show 1499 amongst all of the
          
                  
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            anniversary crazy yet we were
happy to be mentioned in the
          
                  
            2:18:25
          
          
            knighting ceremony. Would love
the credit for the show in the
          
                  
            2:18:28
          
          
            show notes no need for a mention
I should make the point of that.
          
                  
            2:18:32
          
          
            Okay. No need for mentioned
other than that we really need
          
                  
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            the house selling karma. We
haven't been able to sell
          
                  
            2:18:38
          
          
            without it for almost a year and
there's nothing wrong with our
          
                  
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            house. Just really bad timing.
Thank you for all you do, sir
          
                  
            2:18:44
          
          
            and James Scott and Elizabeth
Vink and we thank you very much
          
                  
            2:18:48
          
          
            and sorry that we missed you and
thank you for following up with
          
                  
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            us here is your house selling
karma.
          
                  
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            Unknown: You've got karma.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: And thank you all
very much for supporting us here
          
                  
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            for show 1531 The no agenda show
we appreciate it. Our formula is
          
                  
            2:19:04
          
          
            this. We go out. We get people
in the mouth
          
                  
            2:19:27
          
          
            Leon Atkinson turns 50 Or turn
53 Yesterday Thomas biard buyers
          
                  
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            turns 41 Today, Ronnie Chambliss
turned 60 today as well, Belinda
          
                  
            2:19:37
          
          
            Shores is Sjors wishes her
husband marchers Happy birthday
          
                  
            2:19:41
          
          
            he turned 57 tomorrow and
Bradley Fox celebrates on
          
                  
            2:19:45
          
          
            February 22. Happy birthday from
everybody here the best podcast
          
                  
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            in the universe.
          
                  
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            Don't want Have you heard it
earlier? We have an upgrade for
          
                  
            2:20:03
          
          
            a day actually a fake about
Countess who now becomes a
          
                  
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            countess Countess Kim keep up
the nutty fluffers
          
                  
            2:20:11
          
          
            congratulations that Countess
Thank you very much for
          
                  
            2:20:13
          
          
            supporting the no agenda show
when you might as well hang out
          
                  
            2:20:16
          
          
            here because we have quite the
intricate roundtable as we do
          
                  
            2:20:19
          
          
            have that's funny our our back
office immediately considered
          
                  
            2:20:26
          
          
            the dirty Jersey horror to be a
dame but no dirty conspiracy
          
                  
            2:20:30
          
          
            it's under the dame category on
the spreadsheet no no we got a
          
                  
            2:20:33
          
          
            night and a day. So we need one
of each for today John for the
          
                  
            2:20:37
          
          
            swords storage so any two swords
you do we got a Damon Knight and
          
                  
            2:20:41
          
          
            he's he he used
          
                  
            2:20:42
          
          
            John C Dvorak: the duos or it's
got two sides you just flip it
          
                  
            2:20:45
          
          
            over yourself. Hey, here it is.
          
                  
            2:20:47
          
          
            Adam Curry: That's a nice one. I
haven't seen that one in a
          
                  
            2:20:50
          
          
            while. Jessica static habits and
dirty Jersey horse stuff up here
          
                  
            2:20:56
          
          
            on the podium. Both of you
supported the no agenda show in
          
                  
            2:20:58
          
          
            the amount of $1,000 or more you
did the accounting yourself. We
          
                  
            2:21:01
          
          
            trust you it is the honor system
and here we go. I pronounced the
          
                  
            2:21:04
          
          
            Kate de dame delphinium Jessore
and Sir dirty Jersey horror of
          
                  
            2:21:09
          
          
            the East Texas piney woods for
you we've got hookers and blow
          
                  
            2:21:12
          
          
            or rent boys and shard Nate
grass fed beef from the local
          
                  
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            ranch pure HCO fresh garden
vegetables and herbs and polish
          
                  
            2:21:18
          
          
            it off with some heavenly hunk
chunks and Denver cut steak and
          
                  
            2:21:22
          
          
            a fresh new england IPA from
forgotten road ales. Along with
          
                  
            2:21:26
          
          
            that, we got some sparkling
cider and escorts ginger ale
          
                  
            2:21:29
          
          
            Jerboas, breast milk and Pavel
and of course mutton and Mead.
          
                  
            2:21:31
          
          
            And obviously our Dame is in
memoriam. So she will be
          
                  
            2:21:35
          
          
            consuming all that she can in
heaven. We do appreciate the
          
                  
            2:21:40
          
          
            support of course from family
and from dirty dirty Jersey
          
                  
            2:21:43
          
          
            hoard directly go to no agenda
nation.com/rings Give us your
          
                  
            2:21:48
          
          
            ring size or whatever you'd like
that to be for our Dame in
          
                  
            2:21:52
          
          
            memoriam and we'll send that off
to wherever requested you can
          
                  
            2:21:55
          
          
            enter your address there as
well. And thank you for
          
                  
            2:21:57
          
          
            supporting a no agenda show for
15 years the best podcast in the
          
                  
            2:22:01
          
          
            universe. No one
          
                  
            2:22:10
          
          
            now a lot of meetups happening
today. Already over probably and
          
                  
            2:22:14
          
          
            I think Roger roundy was hosting
the DC meetup at the Lincoln
          
                  
            2:22:17
          
          
            Memorial. Maybe still underway
the local 76th annual fish town
          
                  
            2:22:22
          
          
            friendly at the Philadelphia
Brewing Company. Same for
          
                  
            2:22:26
          
          
            Columbus Ohio Smokehouse Brewing
Company to Central Ohio meet up
          
                  
            2:22:30
          
          
            we have the northern Wake County
Dark Winter of death gathering
          
                  
            2:22:33
          
          
            in Raleigh, North Carolina
Carolina Compass Rose brewery
          
                  
            2:22:36
          
          
            say hi everybody wait for us.
The over the hill and through
          
                  
            2:22:40
          
          
            the Bs in infinite works of
Scala Florida. Ocala Florida
          
                  
            2:22:45
          
          
            sorry the COA Indy no agenda
tribal meet up and swap meet
          
                  
            2:22:50
          
          
            three o'clock. These are all
pretty much over I guess
          
                  
            2:22:53
          
          
            although Indianapolis those guys
hanging out for a while St.
          
                  
            2:22:55
          
          
            Joseph brewery and public house.
We've got the NA Three Mile
          
                  
            2:22:58
          
          
            Island evac zone meetup. I'm
expecting a lot of reports from
          
                  
            2:23:01
          
          
            these people evergreen brewing.
We have the Mardi Gras grip and
          
                  
            2:23:05
          
          
            grin in East Texas that is
kicking off in just about an
          
                  
            2:23:07
          
          
            hour from now. skippers Pierre
Pierre coastal Cajun kitchen in
          
                  
            2:23:11
          
          
            Gladewater. That is the dirty
Jersey horse locale I guess with
          
                  
            2:23:16
          
          
            the hog story crew and finally
the rational drinkers club at
          
                  
            2:23:21
          
          
            Fort Collins Colorado six
o'clock Mountain Time stodgy
          
                  
            2:23:24
          
          
            Brewing Company and see we had
one report from the Netherlands.
          
                  
            2:23:28
          
          
            The this was the first annual or
first monthly lightened amygdala
          
                  
            2:23:33
          
          
            check meet up and it being in
the Netherlands people were
          
                  
            2:23:37
          
          
            consuming all kinds of groovy
stuff. Okay, here. Sure Hendrik.
          
                  
            2:23:42
          
          
            Well almost live from my
lightish date of birth, place of
          
                  
            2:23:48
          
          
            birth, and he's already taken a
few hits from the north from the
          
                  
            2:23:56
          
          
            fork. And now over to the next
one.
          
                  
            2:23:58
          
          
            Unknown: Yeah.
          
                  
            2:24:00
          
          
            Adam Curry: Good morning, Adam.
And John, do the next one in the
          
                  
            2:24:04
          
          
            morning Sebastian here. Thanks
for the meetup
          
                  
            2:24:08
          
          
            Unknown: another Sebastian
greetings from the node runners
          
                  
            2:24:10
          
          
            stack sets
          
                  
            2:24:11
          
          
            to take them to the rashie banks
peace to all slaves. And
          
                  
            2:24:15
          
          
            remember, I'm not crazy. I'm an
aeroplane.
          
                  
            2:24:18
          
          
            This is Brandon and I appreciate
all the let's go encouragement
          
                  
            2:24:21
          
          
            tonight.
          
                  
            2:24:22
          
          
            Hello Lucas from goose cased and
it's good to see and finally
          
                  
            2:24:27
          
          
            I this is barren rock from
greater Lindbergh. And it's
          
                  
            2:24:29
          
          
            really a great success to have
this lady meet up on the go.
          
                  
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            Hello, I'm Nick. This is great
still.
          
                  
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            Adam Curry: Yes, yes. You want
to say something drunk. Or as we
          
                  
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            would say Strunk stoned and
drunk are very good people very
          
                  
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            light and it's a university
town. Can you tell? Those are
          
                  
            2:24:55
          
          
            the meetups? That's the meetup
important that you heard the
          
                  
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            meetups earlier. There's a lot
of meetups going on. If you want
          
                  
            2:25:00
          
          
            to be part of the community,
you're listening to the show you
          
                  
            2:25:03
          
          
            already are. But believe me, you
go to one of these meetups, you
          
                  
            2:25:06
          
          
            think you're weird. Everybody's
weird. No one will be like, you
          
                  
            2:25:09
          
          
            know, every single person is
different, but somehow we all
          
                  
            2:25:12
          
          
            fit together. These meetups are
good. They're protection because
          
                  
            2:25:16
          
          
            connection is protection. And
you can find them at no agenda.
          
                  
            2:25:20
          
          
            meetups.com If you can't find
one near you start one yourself.
          
                  
            2:25:23
          
          
            It's easy at a party with dicen
de BombBomb you'd be triggered
          
                  
            2:25:42
          
          
            is like, I got the ISOs. I know
one of mine is dynamite. And one
          
                  
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            of them has to hit one of them.
I would hope. Do you have any? I
          
                  
            2:25:52
          
          
            have to alright. What can you
hear yours? First?
          
                  
            2:25:55
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I have fraud.
          
                  
            2:25:57
          
          
            Unknown: fraudulent claims of
fraud.
          
                  
            2:26:01
          
          
            Adam Curry: Okay, classic. And
tool, a tool for lazy preachers.
          
                  
            2:26:09
          
          
            Let's see. If you'd like one of
mine.
          
                  
            2:26:11
          
          
            Unknown: I'm obsessed with the
show. Mm.
          
                  
            2:26:14
          
          
            Adam Curry: Not bad. Not bad. Or
          
                  
            2:26:16
          
          
            Unknown: sensational
sensational. Or
          
                  
            2:26:26
          
          
            John C Dvorak: that's got to be
my favorite. Might be I can
          
                  
            2:26:29
          
          
            understand what he said. That's
          
                  
            2:26:30
          
          
            Adam Curry: the opener of
Houston. True doe. That's how
          
                  
            2:26:33
          
          
            they announced just all of that
one. I like
          
                  
            2:26:38
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I don't care for
that one. I like the shoe. Both
          
                  
            2:26:41
          
          
            of them in the second one I
think is the is the winner.
          
                  
            2:26:45
          
          
            Unknown: Sensational.
Sensational. That one?
          
                  
            2:26:49
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Yeah. Okay,
          
                  
            2:26:50
          
          
            Adam Curry: I'll take it. So
good. It's all good people. So
          
                  
            2:26:54
          
          
            good. Oh, let me see. There was
so before we
          
                  
            2:26:58
          
          
            John C Dvorak: go into anything
serious. Oh, please. I'm behind
          
                  
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            in my tick tock catches. We need
a jingle for this. So I got a
          
                  
            2:27:07
          
          
            tic toc lady here, bitch. She's
beside herself not knowing quite
          
                  
            2:27:11
          
          
            what to do. And this is what she
people like this, I guess obsess
          
                  
            2:27:15
          
          
            all day about things like this?
Because? I don't know. I don't
          
                  
            2:27:20
          
          
            know. I have no idea why anyone
was obsessed so much that
          
                  
            2:27:24
          
          
            they're gonna put it out there
for when a tick tock to listen
          
                  
            2:27:26
          
          
            to it. This is tick tock, the
gendered lady.
          
                  
            2:27:29
          
          
            Unknown: So I was just picking
up my vehicle from an oil
          
                  
            2:27:31
          
          
            change. And the person came out
of the garage and said, What can
          
                  
            2:27:33
          
          
            I do for you, young lady? And I
know that this was intended to
          
                  
            2:27:37
          
          
            be a greeting of respect and
kindness or politeness, maybe.
          
                  
            2:27:41
          
          
            But I had this immediate like,
okay, young, maybe
          
                  
            2:27:44
          
          
            comparatively, I'll take it. But
I was like, lady, what do I do
          
                  
            2:27:47
          
          
            it that like, it's so
complicated because I know this
          
                  
            2:27:50
          
          
            person only intended kindness,
there was a smile on their face.
          
                  
            2:27:54
          
          
            Like I knew that they weren't
trying to like patronize me or
          
                  
            2:27:57
          
          
            gender me, but I felt so
gendered and so inappropriately
          
                  
            2:28:01
          
          
            gendered. And I don't know what
to do with that, like, what do
          
                  
            2:28:03
          
          
            you do with that when someone
like has the best of intentions,
          
                  
            2:28:06
          
          
            and I don't really want to spend
all of my spoons trying to
          
                  
            2:28:09
          
          
            educate someone at the Costco
car center.
          
                  
            2:28:13
          
          
            Adam Curry: Limit. So she was
misgendered. No, she was just
          
                  
            2:28:17
          
          
            gendered. She was gendered. She
didn't want to be gendered at
          
                  
            2:28:20
          
          
            all. Right? Oh, this is one of
these. These. These are those
          
                  
            2:28:24
          
          
            women. I've learned that from
you. This is one of those women.
          
                  
            2:28:29
          
          
            Who, who when you if you hold
the door open like well, I could
          
                  
            2:28:32
          
          
            John C Dvorak: do that nice now.
Yeah, exactly. Same, same
          
                  
            2:28:35
          
          
            person. And
          
                  
            2:28:37
          
          
            Adam Curry: sounds like that to
that I can do myself, thank out.
          
                  
            2:28:40
          
          
            I'm like that she's a
sweetheart. Here in the south.
          
                  
            2:28:44
          
          
            We have right here in the south,
we hold the door open for the
          
                  
            2:28:48
          
          
            dames for a prime
          
                  
            2:28:50
          
          
            John C Dvorak: mover who goes to
cheer for him open the door in
          
                  
            2:28:52
          
          
            the car. If
          
                  
            2:28:54
          
          
            Adam Curry: a woman stands up at
the table, I stand up. If she
          
                  
            2:28:56
          
          
            comes back, I stand up. And this
lady would read my Creek. I'm
          
                  
            2:29:03
          
          
            nothing but a creep. That was
very lighthearted. Thank you for
          
                  
            2:29:06
          
          
            catching us up on the latest nut
job, Marie. I did want to
          
                  
            2:29:11
          
          
            mention, and now none of these
are playable. But I put them up
          
                  
            2:29:15
          
          
            put them in the show notes.
There's now two, two Turkish
          
                  
            2:29:18
          
          
            politicians. The most recent one
is the head of the Ministry of
          
                  
            2:29:24
          
          
            Interior interior of Turkey
after the earthquake earthquake,
          
                  
            2:29:30
          
          
            and this is what the head of the
ministry said I have the
          
                  
            2:29:33
          
          
            translation. There are no
coincidences. And we told the
          
                  
            2:29:36
          
          
            American ambassador that a week
ago we did not agree with the
          
                  
            2:29:40
          
          
            increase in the number of NATO
members and a week later we had
          
                  
            2:29:43
          
          
            a catastrophic earthquake. We
know who did it and how get your
          
                  
            2:29:46
          
          
            dirty paws off Turkey. We will
draw our own conclusions. And
          
                  
            2:29:51
          
          
            with that, several mentions of
and this I think is true that
          
                  
            2:29:56
          
          
            the turkey earthquake does not
appear to have an epicenter
          
                  
            2:30:02
          
          
            Which is interesting.
          
                  
            2:30:05
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well, even if it
had an earthquake machine as
          
                  
            2:30:08
          
          
            your you will contend, yes.
Doesn't an earthquake have an
          
                  
            2:30:11
          
          
            epicenter like the one in Japan
had a very distinctive Epicenter
          
                  
            2:30:14
          
          
            where the machine was?
          
                  
            2:30:16
          
          
            Adam Curry: Right? No. The
machine know that it was a bomb
          
                  
            2:30:21
          
          
            that went off off the coast to
start the tsunami. We all know
          
                  
            2:30:25
          
          
            that that wasn't the earthquake
machine. That was an underwater
          
                  
            2:30:28
          
          
            explosion. I'm just trying to
change history.
          
                  
            2:30:35
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Should you try to
change your own history? Yes.
          
                  
            2:30:39
          
          
            Was a dairy a was a Darren Yes,
the center there was the
          
                  
            2:30:42
          
          
            earthquake.
          
                  
            2:30:44
          
          
            Adam Curry: Yes, that's that's
why it's weird that this one
          
                  
            2:30:46
          
          
            didn't have an epicenter, but
also ripped all like a huge, a
          
                  
            2:30:51
          
          
            huge tear in the earth. And this
is what the politicians are
          
                  
            2:30:56
          
          
            saying. It's not me anymore. I'm
not alone. They're saying it.
          
                  
            2:31:03
          
          
            Meanwhile, what you didn't hear
in the region because it also
          
                  
            2:31:07
          
          
            had Syria although it was
northwestern Syria. We seem to
          
                  
            2:31:11
          
          
            be killing people all over the
place. A leader of
          
                  
            2:31:13
          
          
            Unknown: the ISIS terrorist
network in Syria is dead. But at
          
                  
            2:31:17
          
          
            the price of four wounded
Americans
          
                  
            2:31:20
          
          
            an explosion during the raid
also resulted in four US troops
          
                  
            2:31:25
          
          
            and one of the working dogs
suffering some some injuries.
          
                  
            2:31:29
          
          
            US Special Operations Forces
went in by helicopter and
          
                  
            2:31:32
          
          
            surrounded a nondescript house
in northeastern Syria. But as
          
                  
            2:31:36
          
          
            they closed in on their target,
an explosion either a suicide
          
                  
            2:31:40
          
          
            vest or a hand grenade went off,
          
                  
            2:31:43
          
          
            that troops and working dog are
in stable condition. It is a
          
                  
            2:31:46
          
          
            constant
          
                  
            2:31:47
          
          
            threat. In 2019 When commandos
raided the Syrian compound of
          
                  
            2:31:52
          
          
            ISIS leader, Abu Bakr al
Baghdadi, backing up himself and
          
                  
            2:31:56
          
          
            three children to avoid capture.
Last year YB Rahim al Hashimi al
          
                  
            2:32:01
          
          
            Quraishi, another leader of ISIS
set off a booby trap that level
          
                  
            2:32:06
          
          
            the third floor of his house,
killing himself, his wife and
          
                  
            2:32:09
          
          
            two children. This time the
target was Hamza el hum Z. And
          
                  
            2:32:14
          
          
            this time he apparently waited
for the Americans to get close
          
                  
            2:32:17
          
          
            enough he
          
                  
            2:32:18
          
          
            was overseeing the group's
deadly terrorist network in
          
                  
            2:32:20
          
          
            eastern Syria before he was
killed in the raid.
          
                  
            2:32:22
          
          
            There are about 900 American
troops in Syria, working with
          
                  
            2:32:26
          
          
            local Syrian forces to keep the
ISIS terrorist network from
          
                  
            2:32:29
          
          
            staging a comeback. It's a
deadly game of hide and seek.
          
                  
            2:32:34
          
          
            But no American troops were
killed or wounded in all of last
          
                  
            2:32:38
          
          
            year.
          
                  
            2:32:40
          
          
            Adam Curry: This is not in the
news. It's really weird that we
          
                  
            2:32:46
          
          
            just just killing people. And
what is the threat there? What
          
                  
            2:32:50
          
          
            it why why are we doing this?
Any ideas? Bueller?
          
                  
            2:32:55
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I don't even know
that story.
          
                  
            2:32:57
          
          
            Adam Curry: No, but this is
brand new. This just came out.
          
                  
            2:32:59
          
          
            But that's my point is this is
kind of nuts. We're just killing
          
                  
            2:33:01
          
          
            people everywhere.
          
                  
            2:33:03
          
          
            John C Dvorak: So I've got two
epicenters. For the first two
          
                  
            2:33:06
          
          
            Turkish earthquakes.
          
                  
            2:33:08
          
          
            Adam Curry: Yes, there was two.
The second one was apparently
          
                  
            2:33:10
          
          
            even worse.
          
                  
            2:33:11
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well, the first
one was was in Giza and typ was
          
                  
            2:33:15
          
          
            the epicenter and the second one
was in scrolled it off but it
          
                  
            2:33:23
          
          
            didn't second one has a definite
center to this bullcrap there is
          
                  
            2:33:26
          
          
            no epicenter. I'm just
          
                  
            2:33:27
          
          
            Adam Curry: telling you what the
politicians are saying.
          
                  
            2:33:29
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well those guys
are they hate us.
          
                  
            2:33:32
          
          
            Adam Curry: Well, yeah with good
reason. We've been doing it
          
                  
            2:33:37
          
          
            everywhere around the world.
Take Fukushima you just said to
          
                  
            2:33:40
          
          
            yourself that
          
                  
            2:33:41
          
          
            John C Dvorak: you know they
should take I have a Turkish
          
                  
            2:33:42
          
          
            clip to show you how many
buildings were destroyed. They
          
                  
            2:33:44
          
          
            should take aim at their own
politicians who didn't enforce
          
                  
            2:33:47
          
          
            building codes which were I
guess since they have so many
          
                  
            2:33:51
          
          
            earthquakes there see what
there's an earthquake machine or
          
                  
            2:33:53
          
          
            not. They do have quite a lot.
          
                  
            2:33:56
          
          
            Adam Curry: If you look at the
list, but this is the biggest
          
                  
            2:33:58
          
          
            wasn't up to 45,000 Dead they
estimate
          
                  
            2:34:01
          
          
            Unknown: but listen to this
clip. Turkey's interior minister
          
                  
            2:34:04
          
          
            said today that over 80,000
buildings and his name is the
          
                  
            2:34:08
          
          
            same guy. The same the same guy
Turkey's interior minister said
          
                  
            2:34:12
          
          
            today that over 80,000 buildings
in his nation were either
          
                  
            2:34:16
          
          
            destroyed or have become
uninhabitable after last week's
          
                  
            2:34:19
          
          
            quake. The situation across the
border in Syria is dire for the
          
                  
            2:34:24
          
          
            millions left homeless, so many
of whom already suffered greatly
          
                  
            2:34:27
          
          
            through nearly 12 years of war,
supplying shelter and aid is a
          
                  
            2:34:32
          
          
            prime focus there now. But
remarkably, people are still
          
                  
            2:34:35
          
          
            being pulled from the rubble
after a week and a half. That is
          
                  
            2:34:39
          
          
            remarkable
          
                  
            2:34:40
          
          
            John C Dvorak: especially always
every time to set my there's
          
                  
            2:34:43
          
          
            always some guidance there a
month. Yeah, what we need living
          
                  
            2:34:47
          
          
            on his fingernails and these are
horrible.
          
                  
            2:34:50
          
          
            Adam Curry: What we need is we
need a rescue of a child you
          
                  
            2:34:52
          
          
            know, the one that like that's
that's been trapped for for
          
                  
            2:34:56
          
          
            weeks and that's what the
international because the press
          
                  
            2:34:59
          
          
            is not aren't really doing much
with a story. That's also weird.
          
                  
            2:35:03
          
          
            I mean, it's such a, the scale
of the devastation is outside of
          
                  
            2:35:06
          
          
            the earthquake machine stuff.
But the scale of the of the
          
                  
            2:35:09
          
          
            devastation is is almost
unimaginable. But there's just
          
                  
            2:35:14
          
          
            nothing.
          
                  
            2:35:14
          
          
            John C Dvorak: No, I do
satellite pictures and some of
          
                  
            2:35:17
          
          
            the other photos of the cracks
are actually like, because they
          
                  
            2:35:22
          
          
            go right through a highways.
Yeah. And they divide the
          
                  
            2:35:25
          
          
            highway by you know, it's not
like 100 yards, but it's like
          
                  
            2:35:29
          
          
            they're just it's not even in
the same county. It was high
          
                  
            2:35:32
          
          
            weekends is a big hole in the
earth and the other highway is
          
                  
            2:35:34
          
          
            way over there somewhere. It's
quite, quite amazing.
          
                  
            2:35:38
          
          
            Adam Curry: Let's stay in. Well,
not quite the region, but in
          
                  
            2:35:41
          
          
            sandy areas. The new trifecta is
the new triple threat is Russia,
          
                  
            2:35:48
          
          
            China, Iran. And looks like
looks like we're up to our
          
                  
            2:35:53
          
          
            tricks in Iran. De France. 24
had this, this this lady on. And
          
                  
            2:36:00
          
          
            she, she I think she works she
works for a university, but she
          
                  
            2:36:05
          
          
            she's very distinct kind of
look. You know, like French with
          
                  
            2:36:10
          
          
            the big fro hair just, you know,
very distinct. I would say she
          
                  
            2:36:15
          
          
            might even be a spook but just
listen to this report as as we
          
                  
            2:36:18
          
          
            move into familiar territory to
our spooks in Iran.
          
                  
            2:36:22
          
          
            Unknown: I'm joined now on set
by Chara maca Remi, from the
          
                  
            2:36:26
          
          
            University of Montreal. Thank
you for joining us here today.
          
                  
            2:36:30
          
          
            You are an expert in Iran, and
notably, a wrote the book about
          
                  
            2:36:35
          
          
            the 1979 Iranian Revolution.
spoke. I'd like to ask you,
          
                  
            2:36:41
          
          
            first of all, losing its
momentum a little bit. We've
          
                  
            2:36:46
          
          
            heard less about it, certainly
outside Iran in recent weeks.
          
                  
            2:36:51
          
          
            It's it entered another phase
actually what we heard about
          
                  
            2:36:55
          
          
            were the insurrection all the
insurrections of fall 22. So it
          
                  
            2:37:00
          
          
            was the first stage and it was
very vivid in the streets. And
          
                  
            2:37:05
          
          
            it was breaking a lot of red
lines, a lot of political
          
                  
            2:37:08
          
          
            boundaries that were set for the
last 40 years. That was very
          
                  
            2:37:12
          
          
            impressive. And what we see now
is an a political organization
          
                  
            2:37:17
          
          
            of the Iranian society in order
to kind of carry on another
          
                  
            2:37:22
          
          
            phase of that confrontation with
the state with political
          
                  
            2:37:26
          
          
            demands. So we have seen leader,
opposition leader like green
          
                  
            2:37:30
          
          
            movement leader, Muse and
Mousavi, who's in house arrest
          
                  
            2:37:35
          
          
            for 13 years now. And he has
written a letter saying that no
          
                  
            2:37:42
          
          
            change is possible in Iran
within the frame of the
          
                  
            2:37:45
          
          
            theocracy. So he demands a
regime change as well. And this
          
                  
            2:37:49
          
          
            is the first time you know, this
is very new, because for the
          
                  
            2:37:51
          
          
            last 13 years, he hasn't done
that. And 400 political figures
          
                  
            2:37:56
          
          
            and civil society figures in
Iran have signed a letter of
          
                  
            2:38:01
          
          
            support to his letter. And we
have also two days ago 20 unions
          
                  
            2:38:07
          
          
            and organization within Iran who
have signed a common letter, so
          
                  
            2:38:10
          
          
            they have come to a common
demand, asking for change, you
          
                  
            2:38:14
          
          
            know, for separation of church
and the state for equal pay for
          
                  
            2:38:19
          
          
            women and men. So we're very
much into the woman life with a
          
                  
            2:38:22
          
          
            movement yet, for the release
and conditional release of all
          
                  
            2:38:26
          
          
            political prisoners. Many
political prisoners have been
          
                  
            2:38:28
          
          
            released, and when they were
released a woman political
          
                  
            2:38:31
          
          
            prisoner release, they
photographed themselves outside
          
                  
            2:38:34
          
          
            of the prison without the hijab.
So it shows that we are released
          
                  
            2:38:37
          
          
            but we are not going to, you
know, stand aside, we are
          
                  
            2:38:40
          
          
            pursuing the fight. So I think
that it's changing forms.
          
                  
            2:38:45
          
          
            Adam Curry: Regime Change bound
deck, looks like Oh, my
          
                  
            2:38:48
          
          
            John C Dvorak: DeSantis clip was
bad. No, this was no this.
          
                  
            2:38:52
          
          
            Adam Curry: Your DeSantis clip
really sucked. This at least
          
                  
            2:38:54
          
          
            shows this this is regime change
          
                  
            2:38:57
          
          
            John C Dvorak: is some woman
that lives in Montreal, she
          
                  
            2:38:59
          
          
            doesn't know what's going on.
She's a spook for Canada.
          
                  
            2:39:02
          
          
            Adam Curry: Regime change on
deck.
          
                  
            2:39:05
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Okay, I'm saying
no. Okay, I think this was just
          
                  
            2:39:11
          
          
            another test like the Green
Revolution or wherever that one
          
                  
            2:39:14
          
          
            purple whatever remember the
color that they tried what some
          
                  
            2:39:18
          
          
            during the Obama administration
This is another another shot at
          
                  
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            it and already, yes, yeah. But
it's over. Just
          
                  
            2:39:25
          
          
            Adam Curry: know that. No, she
said it's the next phase. Well,
          
                  
            2:39:30
          
          
            John C Dvorak: you want to put,
you gotta you gotta dead pull
          
                  
            2:39:32
          
          
            money when?
          
                  
            2:39:34
          
          
            Adam Curry: After they do their
nuclear test.
          
                  
            2:39:37
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Oh, if they do a
new killer test that's coming
          
                  
            2:39:40
          
          
            Adam Curry: up. They're not
going to do it. Okay.
          
                  
            2:39:44
          
          
            John C Dvorak: They do that
that's a huge mistake.
          
                  
            2:39:47
          
          
            Adam Curry: I'm going to stay in
the sandy areas. This is part of
          
                  
            2:39:51
          
          
            the great reset. This could be
your country.
          
                  
            2:39:54
          
          
            Unknown: They read bank burns,
several dozen people in Lebanon
          
                  
            2:39:57
          
          
            attacked banks on Thursday and
blocked roads. They're
          
                  
            2:40:00
          
          
            protesting against the informal
restrictions on cash withdrawals
          
                  
            2:40:04
          
          
            in place for your financial
crisis that prevent Lebanese
          
                  
            2:40:07
          
          
            from getting their hands on
their own savings. The crisis
          
                  
            2:40:10
          
          
            has slashed the value of the
Lebanese pound by more than 98%
          
                  
            2:40:14
          
          
            since 2018. protester Romic on
door says everyone should be up
          
                  
            2:40:18
          
          
            in arms
          
                  
            2:40:22
          
          
            What's you Lebanese people
waiting for to go down and take
          
                  
            2:40:24
          
          
            your rights from this mafia of
thieves that's ruling out
          
                  
            2:40:28
          
          
            Armenian measure, man. Where are
the human rights? There is no
          
                  
            2:40:31
          
          
            electricity, no water, nothing
at all in this country. Don't
          
                  
            2:40:35
          
          
            they feel us while they're
sitting in their palaces? They
          
                  
            2:40:37
          
          
            have no feelings for the people
while they see us a sheep. We
          
                  
            2:40:41
          
          
            won't stay silent about our
life's worth.
          
                  
            2:40:45
          
          
            At least six banks were targeted
as the currency hit a new record
          
                  
            2:40:49
          
          
            low value on Thursday. That's
according to depositors outcry,
          
                  
            2:40:53
          
          
            a lobby representing people with
money stuck in the banks,
          
                  
            2:40:56
          
          
            depositors lacking cash to pay
for basics. Food bills, even
          
                  
            2:41:01
          
          
            health care are seeking access
to their funds through lawsuits.
          
                  
            2:41:06
          
          
            Or sometimes by force people
trying to take out their own
          
                  
            2:41:09
          
          
            money have staged holdups.
pounders changing hands at
          
                  
            2:41:15
          
          
            around 80,000 pounds to the
dollar on Thursday, from 70,000
          
                  
            2:41:20
          
          
            pounds just two days earlier.
          
                  
            2:41:22
          
          
            Adam Curry: Do you value their
money by 98%?
          
                  
            2:41:24
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Yeah, so if you
have $100,000 in the bank, it's
          
                  
            2:41:27
          
          
            worth $2,000.
          
                  
            2:41:30
          
          
            Adam Curry: You know, there's a
guy named good. There's a guy
          
                  
            2:41:32
          
          
            named saifuddien A moose who
moved from Lebanon, he's now in
          
                  
            2:41:36
          
          
            Austin. And and he he says he
was so lucky, because he put
          
                  
            2:41:42
          
          
            most of his money into Bitcoin.
I mean, in this case, Bitcoin
          
                  
            2:41:46
          
          
            would have fixed that. Which I
think and which I think is
          
                  
            2:41:52
          
          
            pretty brilliant.
          
                  
            2:41:54
          
          
            John C Dvorak: He could have put
it in American treasuries, too,
          
                  
            2:41:57
          
          
            that would have saved his ass.
          
                  
            2:41:59
          
          
            Adam Curry: Well, depends how
long you had the Bitcoin
          
                  
            2:42:01
          
          
            American treasuries? Probably.
          
                  
            2:42:03
          
          
            John C Dvorak: What if you
bought the Bitcoin at 60,000?
          
                  
            2:42:06
          
          
            You still
          
                  
            2:42:06
          
          
            Adam Curry: better better still
have 30,000 leftover better than
          
                  
            2:42:11
          
          
            2000? Yeah, I
          
                  
            2:42:13
          
          
            John C Dvorak: was Anything's
better than 2000. But American
          
                  
            2:42:15
          
          
            treasuries would have always had
made some money on the deal.
          
                  
            2:42:18
          
          
            Adam Curry: Okay, well, I'm sure
that's what everyone wanted to
          
                  
            2:42:21
          
          
            do. I love people burning down
the bank thinking their money's
          
                  
            2:42:26
          
          
            actually in there. That's the
funniest part. Yeah, we're
          
                  
            2:42:29
          
          
            trying to hold
          
                  
            2:42:29
          
          
            John C Dvorak: it out this old
wives tale and money's in the
          
                  
            2:42:31
          
          
            bank.
          
                  
            2:42:32
          
          
            Adam Curry: Did you know that
the US banks ever since COVID,
          
                  
            2:42:36
          
          
            they don't have to have any they
don't have to have 10% reserves.
          
                  
            2:42:39
          
          
            There's zero reserve policy.
Still, they never released that.
          
                  
            2:42:44
          
          
            It's kind of scary.
          
                  
            2:42:46
          
          
            John C Dvorak: But you can
always get your money out of his
          
                  
            2:42:47
          
          
            local banks. I know it
mechanics. I've seen somebody
          
                  
            2:42:49
          
          
            trying to get their money out.
But they told me he had to fill
          
                  
            2:42:52
          
          
            out some paperwork. Yeah, more
than more than then you had to
          
                  
            2:42:54
          
          
            wait 24 hours so they deliver
the money. Why there's no money
          
                  
            2:42:58
          
          
            there.
          
                  
            2:43:00
          
          
            Adam Curry: I know this is the
worst. And we have we have a
          
                  
            2:43:04
          
          
            local bank here. Community Bank,
which is great. And that's where
          
                  
            2:43:09
          
          
            we keep our money. But all their
services are outsourced to some
          
                  
            2:43:13
          
          
            no tech firm. It's kind of
wonder, kind of wonder how it
          
                  
            2:43:19
          
          
            all works.
          
                  
            2:43:20
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Doesn't this
microservices architecture taken
          
                  
            2:43:23
          
          
            to an extreme? Yeah,
          
                  
            2:43:25
          
          
            Adam Curry: yeah, if you if you
fuck up sue you screw up your
          
                  
            2:43:27
          
          
            password. Now. You can't talk to
him during the weekend.
          
                  
            2:43:32
          
          
            John C Dvorak: No, you can't do
this whole this was a nightmare.
          
                  
            2:43:35
          
          
            Adam Curry: It is. It is. So
there was big print of a big
          
                  
            2:43:41
          
          
            deal about this Israeli firm.
That apparently is
          
                  
            2:43:46
          
          
            disinformation for hire for
elections. You hear this story?
          
                  
            2:43:51
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I like it.
          
                  
            2:43:52
          
          
            Unknown: Next interference in
over 30 elections worldwide. An
          
                  
            2:43:55
          
          
            investigation by the Paris based
group of journalists called the
          
                  
            2:43:59
          
          
            forbidden stories has shone a
spotlight on Team horror gay,
          
                  
            2:44:03
          
          
            and the 50 year old Israeli
driving these nefarious
          
                  
            2:44:05
          
          
            activities more recently joins
us in the studio. He's part of
          
                  
            2:44:08
          
          
            the team of the business
stories. Laura, thank you very
          
                  
            2:44:10
          
          
            much for being with us. Who is
the man who's allegedly behind
          
                  
            2:44:13
          
          
            all of this tell us about him.
          
                  
            2:44:15
          
          
            So officially, he only has a
nickname Jorge. And he made a
          
                  
            2:44:22
          
          
            lot of before during all the
investigation to hide his real
          
                  
            2:44:25
          
          
            name. But at the end of the of
the investigation after with
          
                  
            2:44:28
          
          
            with the work of 100 reporters,
we we we finally find out who
          
                  
            2:44:33
          
          
            was the guy and his name is Al
Anon. And Turunen is is a former
          
                  
            2:44:39
          
          
            Israeli soldier who is leading
that he's very secret cell unit
          
                  
            2:44:47
          
          
            in charge of producing this
information for hire services.
          
                  
            2:44:51
          
          
            So it's, it's a business that is
kind of expensive. When the
          
                  
            2:44:55
          
          
            people from our team from
hydrophones and the IRS were
          
                  
            2:44:59
          
          
            inferior Writing in an
undercover investigation this
          
                  
            2:45:03
          
          
            this company, he was asking them
to pay 6 million euros to
          
                  
            2:45:08
          
          
            influence an election in Africa
6
          
                  
            2:45:11
          
          
            million who's paying that kind
of money then where it's
          
                  
            2:45:14
          
          
            the kind of people who might
have 6 million to pay for that
          
                  
            2:45:18
          
          
            might be state actors or be
private companies as well. It
          
                  
            2:45:24
          
          
            depends you can, there is a
different level of services that
          
                  
            2:45:29
          
          
            can they can provide you then
during the infiltration, they
          
                  
            2:45:32
          
          
            were able to show how, for
instance, in Kenya, they were
          
                  
            2:45:36
          
          
            able to hack the telegram
account of three advisors of the
          
                  
            2:45:43
          
          
            current president. And in real
life, they were doing that. So
          
                  
            2:45:48
          
          
            it's what is very concerning
with our findings in this
          
                  
            2:45:52
          
          
            investigation is how to kind of
industry met each other the
          
                  
            2:45:56
          
          
            industry with the cyber
civilians on one hand, and on
          
                  
            2:45:59
          
          
            the other hand, the industry of
the influence.
          
                  
            2:46:02
          
          
            Adam Curry: And what I find most
interesting about this story, is
          
                  
            2:46:04
          
          
            this group of journalists, the
forbidden stories group, a Paris
          
                  
            2:46:12
          
          
            based nonprofit that coordinates
investigations with 150
          
                  
            2:46:15
          
          
            reporters, more than 60 news
organizations worldwide,
          
                  
            2:46:19
          
          
            including the National The
Washington Post, The Guardian,
          
                  
            2:46:22
          
          
            and lamanda I don't know if what
do you think that is this?
          
                  
            2:46:28
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well, what
bothers me is the Washington
          
                  
            2:46:30
          
          
            Post, yes. And the Guardian,
Guardian, off the bat right off
          
                  
            2:46:35
          
          
            the bat right off the top. And
Lemond I think is a left leaning
          
                  
            2:46:39
          
          
            operation too. So I'm not
impressed by that. I don't like
          
                  
            2:46:43
          
          
            this. This is not this partisan
approach to news covering. Yeah,
          
                  
            2:46:49
          
          
            Adam Curry: we're on to the
shard that's the guy Oh, he's an
          
                  
            2:46:51
          
          
            award winning investigative
journalist, documentary
          
                  
            2:46:53
          
          
            filmmaker, founder forbidden
stories. Anyway, today, they did
          
                  
            2:46:58
          
          
            a whole like a kind of almost
like a Project Veritas
          
                  
            2:47:01
          
          
            undercover video. I wonder good.
I gotta wonder if that guy
          
                  
            2:47:07
          
          
            actually did anything. Or if
this was more sales job for him.
          
                  
            2:47:09
          
          
            Clearly, he's not being arrested
or anything. He's not being perp
          
                  
            2:47:12
          
          
            walked anywhere. So how, how
good was it? You know what I
          
                  
            2:47:18
          
          
            mean? Yeah. Do you have anything
on Ohio because everyone's all
          
                  
            2:47:24
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Ohio because I
didn't see anything that was
          
                  
            2:47:26
          
          
            new.
          
                  
            2:47:27
          
          
            Adam Curry: The main thing I
need to discuss with you is this
          
                  
            2:47:29
          
          
            Ohio Governor Mike DeWine.
          
                  
            2:47:31
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Yeah, to hate
him.
          
                  
            2:47:32
          
          
            Adam Curry: Tell me that guy
isn't a dead ringer for George
          
                  
            2:47:35
          
          
            Burns.
          
                  
            2:47:38
          
          
            John C Dvorak: George Burns.
          
                  
            2:47:39
          
          
            Adam Curry: Yeah. The comedian.
          
                  
            2:47:40
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I don't see the I
didn't see the George Burns had
          
                  
            2:47:42
          
          
            to look at his picture. Go to
the wiki PD. has had huge ears.
          
                  
            2:47:47
          
          
            It's always funny smile on his
face. Look at the wine. Look
          
                  
            2:47:50
          
          
            into wine. I'm gonna look I'm
gonna look at the wine and see
          
                  
            2:47:52
          
          
            if there's
          
                  
            2:47:52
          
          
            Adam Curry: a young George bird.
He's got pretty big ears. He got
          
                  
            2:47:54
          
          
            some saucers. There.
          
                  
            2:47:58
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Is a Mike DeWine.
Mike, Mike, Mike D wine.
          
                  
            2:48:02
          
          
            Adam Curry: I mean, he looks he
looks more like George Burns in
          
                  
            2:48:04
          
          
            the in the videos.
          
                  
            2:48:07
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah, I see
it. Okay. So is it a straight
          
                  
            2:48:10
          
          
            shot that makes it look a versus
sideview? No. Is it just a
          
                  
            2:48:15
          
          
            straight up shot? With his
smiling? It looks like George
          
                  
            2:48:19
          
          
            Burns.
          
                  
            2:48:21
          
          
            Adam Curry: So what I love most
about and we got a lot of boots
          
                  
            2:48:24
          
          
            on the ground, people nearby
people saying mom seems like
          
                  
            2:48:27
          
          
            there's a lot of stuff being
exaggerated. Certainly a lot of
          
                  
            2:48:30
          
          
            people say, oh, yeah, I got
dead. Everything around here did
          
                  
            2:48:34
          
          
            not really a lot of evidence.
          
                  
            2:48:35
          
          
            John C Dvorak: So it's not a lot
of coverage to begin with. So
          
                  
            2:48:38
          
          
            I'm sure the only exaggerated
subsequently time where you can
          
                  
            2:48:41
          
          
            get any news.
          
                  
            2:48:43
          
          
            Adam Curry: What I find kind of
this whole thing was, as far as
          
                  
            2:48:47
          
          
            I'm concerned was a political
football from the get go. And
          
                  
            2:48:51
          
          
            you know, now, Trump is like,
I'm gonna go see the people over
          
                  
            2:48:55
          
          
            there, which is the political
move he's running for probably.
          
                  
            2:48:57
          
          
            Yeah,
          
                  
            2:48:57
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I think it's
foolish. I think it's dumb. I
          
                  
            2:48:59
          
          
            think. I agree. I think that's
like the anchors of NBC, CBS and
          
                  
            2:49:04
          
          
            you know, go into some place.
What do they need to be there
          
                  
            2:49:07
          
          
            for? They're just getting in the
way. Yeah. And then we had this
          
                  
            2:49:11
          
          
            little situation with Tucker. So
there's something going on in
          
                  
            2:49:15
          
          
            one of the Kentucky churches are
assumed.
          
                  
            2:49:18
          
          
            Adam Curry: Hold on, why don't
just stay with Ohio for a
          
                  
            2:49:20
          
          
            second? Yes. Running right by
right by it. I have a couple
          
                  
            2:49:25
          
          
            things to discuss. Okay. Just
want to give you all the
          
                  
            2:49:28
          
          
            conspiracy theories. This is a
town of 4700 people. So it turns
          
                  
            2:49:34
          
          
            out that perhaps they wanted to
put a high speed rail through
          
                  
            2:49:38
          
          
            this very town. That's one it's
all Trump's fault, according to
          
                  
            2:49:42
          
          
            Buddha judge, so there's always
Trump's there's your political
          
                  
            2:49:46
          
          
            edge. The people of East
Palestinian and why is it
          
                  
            2:49:49
          
          
            Palestinian and not Palestine?
Even though you spell it the
          
                  
            2:49:52
          
          
            same way?
          
                  
            2:49:53
          
          
            John C Dvorak: This way, they
pronounced it there's like
          
                  
            2:49:55
          
          
            there's a couple of towns around
here. They're pronounced not
          
                  
            2:49:57
          
          
            like they're written. Okay?
          
                  
            2:49:58
          
          
            Adam Curry: It's like Rodeo
Drive. because you're gonna get
          
                  
            2:50:01
          
          
            exam there'll be Rodeo Drive.
Okay. Looks like the people of
          
                  
            2:50:06
          
          
            East Palo Steen were put into a
medical test. A What do you call
          
                  
            2:50:14
          
          
            it? The rolling out medical
device sensors. And they were
          
                  
            2:50:20
          
          
            the test market. It's always
good one. See if you see if you
          
                  
            2:50:26
          
          
            ingested something or if you
become sick somehow, yeah, the
          
                  
            2:50:29
          
          
            my ID medical service. There you
go. I liked the Amtrak 2035 map
          
                  
            2:50:36
          
          
            the best because that that shows
Amtrak with high speed rail
          
                  
            2:50:40
          
          
            going straight through this
town. So of course, we had to
          
                  
            2:50:44
          
          
            blow it all up. And then but in
general, I sent you an article.
          
                  
            2:50:49
          
          
            I know you don't like where it
came from. But it seems like the
          
                  
            2:50:53
          
          
            actual contamination of the
environment may that may be a
          
                  
            2:50:56
          
          
            bit overblown, because that
that's the part that I'm just
          
                  
            2:51:00
          
          
            questioning. It's not great to
have this happen. But it does
          
                  
            2:51:03
          
          
            happen a lot with these types of
all kinds of chemicals. The year
          
                  
            2:51:06
          
          
            the chemical experts. So what is
your what is your view on the
          
                  
            2:51:09
          
          
            vinyl chloride? How much is it
parts per million is in there?
          
                  
            2:51:13
          
          
            What do you think is the actual
risk to the residence?
          
                  
            2:51:17
          
          
            John C Dvorak: I wouldn't live
there with that big mushroom
          
                  
            2:51:19
          
          
            cloud and all that vinyl
chloride dust stuff is nasty. So
          
                  
            2:51:24
          
          
            those guys can downplay that if
they want, but just look at it.
          
                  
            2:51:28
          
          
            Just look at it. What a mess is
that?
          
                  
            2:51:30
          
          
            Adam Curry: Is that clouds still
there?
          
                  
            2:51:32
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Now the clouds
gone. But the messes leftovers
          
                  
            2:51:34
          
          
            ridiculous. And, and it just had
to be a lot. They put it in a
          
                  
            2:51:37
          
          
            bunch of ditches and lit it off.
It was seeping into the ground.
          
                  
            2:51:40
          
          
            It's terrible. I wouldn't
downplay that mess by anybody
          
                  
            2:51:46
          
          
            because Oh, it's bullshit. It's
only vinyl chloride. So what is
          
                  
            2:51:50
          
          
            not in? I'm not listening to
that. Okay.
          
                  
            2:51:53
          
          
            Adam Curry: Which is why I asked
you. So I think it's just at
          
                  
            2:51:57
          
          
            this point, just a political
football. No one really cares
          
                  
            2:52:01
          
          
            about the people. That's
obvious. And the reason why no
          
                  
            2:52:04
          
          
            one sprang into action is
because it happens three times a
          
                  
            2:52:06
          
          
            day. This stuff happens all the
time. We do have a night with
          
                  
            2:52:12
          
          
            tanks of vinyl chloride, it
doesn't know but derailments
          
                  
            2:52:15
          
          
            happen, and yeah, there's over
1000 a year. So the one one
          
                  
            2:52:19
          
          
            email from boots on the ground
from one of our producers, who
          
                  
            2:52:23
          
          
            has standing he says you know,
all mainline tracks have hotbox
          
                  
            2:52:26
          
          
            detectors HDDs in track safety
device to checks X axle wheel
          
                  
            2:52:32
          
          
            temperatures, says I've never
been to Ohio, but I did check
          
                  
            2:52:36
          
          
            everything and it seems like
they have a HBD about 20 miles
          
                  
            2:52:40
          
          
            from the crash site near Salem,
Ohio. The train should have had
          
                  
            2:52:44
          
          
            his temperature checked and
received a hot wheel alarm and
          
                  
            2:52:47
          
          
            what he's questioning is kind of
where we started with it. This
          
                  
            2:52:50
          
          
            seems to be just a railroad
failure. You know, not enough
          
                  
            2:52:54
          
          
            people on these trains actually
want to do away with cabooses
          
                  
            2:52:57
          
          
            you've been following this they
want to get rid of cabooses
          
                  
            2:53:00
          
          
            John C Dvorak: gonna get rid of
nearly I haven't seen a caboose
          
                  
            2:53:02
          
          
            in 25 years and I'm right by a
rail
          
                  
            2:53:05
          
          
            Adam Curry: than what I owned
the wires I'm gonna be more than
          
                  
            2:53:07
          
          
            making a big deal of that it's
all political everything. And
          
                  
            2:53:12
          
          
            then all of these cars have
Popoff valves. And our expert
          
                  
            2:53:17
          
          
            boots on the ground says yeah,
vinyl chloride is deadly. I said
          
                  
            2:53:21
          
          
            but the five different choices
they could have made on how to
          
                  
            2:53:25
          
          
            handle this. They kind of took
the worst one the one you want
          
                  
            2:53:28
          
          
            to try first is try and keep the
keep the tanks cool and make and
          
                  
            2:53:33
          
          
            hope that the pop off valves
work because then they wouldn't
          
                  
            2:53:36
          
          
            have had to blow it up. So the
blowing up thing is, is kind of
          
                  
            2:53:40
          
          
            the red flag here.
          
                  
            2:53:42
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Well, we had to
clip from the last show of the
          
                  
            2:53:45
          
          
            hazmat guy saying that they were
keeping that they were keeping
          
                  
            2:53:48
          
          
            him cool with the hoses and they
just kept doing that and they
          
                  
            2:53:53
          
          
            did do that and then they pulled
the hoses off to blown up
          
                  
            2:53:57
          
          
            Adam Curry: so here's a quick
boots on the ground. I live five
          
                  
            2:54:00
          
          
            miles out from ground zero just
want to give you boots on the
          
                  
            2:54:02
          
          
            ground what's happening here.
Nothing accurate has come out
          
                  
            2:54:05
          
          
            since since it since it started
Norfolk got their train track
          
                  
            2:54:11
          
          
            fixed left town claiming threats
on life on their life was made
          
                  
            2:54:15
          
          
            that's why they didn't show up
for the town hall. Unofficially
          
                  
            2:54:17
          
          
            The reason the emergency order
was lifted before testing was
          
                  
            2:54:20
          
          
            that the trains couldn't pass
through town well there was a
          
                  
            2:54:22
          
          
            state of emergency still effect
from what I see there isn't much
          
                  
            2:54:26
          
          
            as much depth as reported. For
one the chickens the dead
          
                  
            2:54:29
          
          
            chickens are about 15 miles away
from the crash while mine in the
          
                  
            2:54:33
          
          
            same path five miles away or
happy as can be and if you saw
          
                  
            2:54:37
          
          
            how scratched up the woman
making the claim was you believe
          
                  
            2:54:39
          
          
            the local law that she is
definitely shocked though that
          
                  
            2:54:42
          
          
            she definitely chalked to those
14 Chalk was shocking the
          
                  
            2:54:46
          
          
            chickens
          
                  
            2:54:47
          
          
            Unknown: no joke.
          
                  
            2:54:48
          
          
            Adam Curry: No it says chocked
no dogs no dogs have died as of
          
                  
            2:54:52
          
          
            yet no caps and there should be
in there should be due to a very
          
                  
            2:54:56
          
          
            bad feral cat issue in town
possibly three cage Fox says the
          
                  
            2:55:00
          
          
            fish were minnows, the stream
that came from 1015 foot wide,
          
                  
            2:55:04
          
          
            never deeper. So he's kind of
downplaying all the disaster.
          
                  
            2:55:07
          
          
            But yeah, I'm sure producer Joe,
you know, like you doesn't
          
                  
            2:55:12
          
          
            really want to be in that
situation. And everything else.
          
                  
            2:55:15
          
          
            I mean, this this conspiracy
theories about the 5 million
          
                  
            2:55:19
          
          
            gallons of water a day that the
Intel fab apparently nearby
          
                  
            2:55:23
          
          
            needs. Have you heard of this? I
mean, this
          
                  
            2:55:27
          
          
            John C Dvorak: is no, this is
completely news to me.
          
                  
            2:55:29
          
          
            Adam Curry: Yeah. So this, you
know that they need to bypass
          
                  
            2:55:33
          
          
            the Ohio River and cut these
people off. I guess we'll just
          
                  
            2:55:36
          
          
            see what plays out. There's
enough conspiracy theories. But
          
                  
            2:55:40
          
          
            to me, everything here now is
just political. And Trump, is
          
                  
            2:55:43
          
          
            it? I agree. I think he's making
a bad move. Bad move going
          
                  
            2:55:46
          
          
            there. You should have just gone
there. Just popped up that would
          
                  
            2:55:50
          
          
            have made sense. Pre announcing
it wrong. Right. Great.
          
                  
            2:55:54
          
          
            John C Dvorak: No, I think I
think if he had just showed up
          
                  
            2:55:56
          
          
            like a couple of days ago, yeah.
Just showed up and with a team
          
                  
            2:56:01
          
          
            of investigators saying, you
know, nobody seems to be doing
          
                  
            2:56:04
          
          
            this properly. I've got some my
own people, and then left. Yeah,
          
                  
            2:56:08
          
          
            I think that we've been kind of
cool, but no. Anyway, bye bye.
          
                  
            2:56:13
          
          
            He's not he's losing it.
          
                  
            2:56:16
          
          
            Adam Curry: I wish there was
some really good information.
          
                  
            2:56:18
          
          
            There really isn't? Really isn't
yet, but a lot of a lot of talk,
          
                  
            2:56:23
          
          
            you know, just a lot of talk,
which is probably why you and I
          
                  
            2:56:26
          
          
            just, there's not a lot to
deconstruct. There's no media
          
                  
            2:56:30
          
          
            really the media attention. And
whenever Erin Brockovich shows
          
                  
            2:56:33
          
          
            up, I'm always suspicious.
          
                  
            2:56:35
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Yeah, that you
mentioned that and I agree with
          
                  
            2:56:37
          
          
            that doesn't mean somebody like
that shows up. I'd get
          
                  
            2:56:40
          
          
            suspicious too. Now, I only have
maybe one clip left. Okay, let's
          
                  
            2:56:44
          
          
            do that. But I had to do this a
number of them. I mean, I could
          
                  
            2:56:48
          
          
            do the NFL Vax news, which I
thought was interesting, but I'm
          
                  
            2:56:51
          
          
            not completely in on it. Oakland
has a ransomware attack going
          
                  
            2:56:55
          
          
            on, which is funny is still
continuing to city.
          
                  
            2:56:57
          
          
            Adam Curry: City of Oakland.
          
                  
            2:56:59
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Yeah. Okay. All
right. But it's it's not that
          
                  
            2:57:02
          
          
            entertaining. I think that I
think the I also have some
          
                  
            2:57:05
          
          
            follow up on that chatbot stuff,
which I didn't realize that that
          
                  
            2:57:09
          
          
            that rousse guy you were talking
about Kevin Roose? Yeah. Oh my
          
                  
            2:57:13
          
          
            god. Well, how lame can you get
I told you when I know I heard
          
                  
            2:57:17
          
          
            it. And then I heard this other
report. And I said, Wait, I
          
                  
            2:57:19
          
          
            mean, you could have pounded
that home harder. Knew Oh, yeah,
          
                  
            2:57:24
          
          
            here we go. Here's a double of
the new overdose drug found in
          
                  
            2:57:28
          
          
            San Francisco. Just listen to
these numbers.
          
                  
            2:57:30
          
          
            Adam Curry: Uplifting way to
leave the show
          
                  
            2:57:32
          
          
            Unknown: in San Francisco.
Authorities say traces of a
          
                  
            2:57:34
          
          
            deadly drug called xylazine as
being found in the bodies of
          
                  
            2:57:38
          
          
            people who died from an
overdose. The street name for
          
                  
            2:57:41
          
          
            the drug is tranq. It's an
animal tranquilizer being added
          
                  
            2:57:45
          
          
            to illicit street opioids,
mainly fentanyl. The
          
                  
            2:57:48
          
          
            tranquilizer is known to cause
severe skin lesions. It can
          
                  
            2:57:51
          
          
            leave users with open wounds
lead to infections and even
          
                  
            2:57:55
          
          
            amputations. trace amounts of it
were found in four out of 145
          
                  
            2:58:00
          
          
            bodies tested between December 1
of last year and the middle of
          
                  
            2:58:04
          
          
            last month. All of the overdoses
involve fentanyl. San Francisco
          
                  
            2:58:09
          
          
            Health officials say it's the
first time the drug has been
          
                  
            2:58:11
          
          
            identified and overdose deaths
in the city.
          
                  
            2:58:15
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Wow. So 140 Plus
deaths in 90 days is what he
          
                  
            2:58:20
          
          
            described. He didn't put the
second half of that in there. So
          
                  
            2:58:22
          
          
            that's I'm a dead there's not 40
dead bodies laying around San
          
                  
            2:58:26
          
          
            Francisco just constantly
because of this fentanyl
          
                  
            2:58:30
          
          
            situation. They don't care. They
don't do anything about the
          
                  
            2:58:34
          
          
            about Fentanyl crisis in the
city free needles. It's pathetic
          
                  
            2:58:39
          
          
            now we got this. I think they're
trying to kill the homeless.
          
                  
            2:58:42
          
          
            Adam Curry: Well, on that tip, I
had this in the show notes for
          
                  
            2:58:45
          
          
            last show middle X. You've not
heard of this middle x. This is
          
                  
            2:58:50
          
          
            now being it's according to exit
International. Oh, yeah. There's
          
                  
            2:58:56
          
          
            a group called Exit
International which is basically
          
                  
            2:59:00
          
          
            about killing yourself.
Euthanasia. And so they've this
          
                  
            2:59:07
          
          
            is quite big story in the
Netherlands. And they have they
          
                  
            2:59:11
          
          
            were eyewitnesses to people
committing euthanasia with
          
                  
            2:59:15
          
          
            middle X. Which is that now that
won't publish what it is. But
          
                  
            2:59:21
          
          
            they're saying In fact, there's
a Wikipedia page here. Mid D E.
          
                  
            2:59:26
          
          
            L. It's it's something that
comes from the chemical
          
                  
            2:59:31
          
          
            industry. And people are using
it to kill themselves. And it's
          
                  
            2:59:37
          
          
            but no one knows exactly what it
is the newspapers are trying to
          
                  
            2:59:41
          
          
            figure it out or that or they're
not publishing it because they
          
                  
            2:59:43
          
          
            don't want more people to use
it. This is and it's and even
          
                  
            2:59:48
          
          
            though middle X is Dutch because
it means middle means a compound
          
                  
            2:59:53
          
          
            I guess or the something yeah
compound. They're not translated
          
                  
            2:59:57
          
          
            just calling it middle X. And
apparently you you're all your
          
                  
            3:00:03
          
          
            cells just stop accepting oxygen
and you just shut down and die.
          
                  
            3:00:09
          
          
            Yeah. And seems like there's a
promotion of this going on.
          
                  
            3:00:15
          
          
            John C Dvorak: Like a promotion.
          
                  
            3:00:17
          
          
            Adam Curry: I don't like it. I'm
that upbeat note with Big Pharma
          
                  
            3:00:22
          
          
            killing us because they are.
We're gonna leave you with a
          
                  
            3:00:26
          
          
            couple of endless show mixes. We
got some good ones we got bring
          
                  
            3:00:31
          
          
            she brain data here. We got I am
Robert zone Nikki. We got Tom
          
                  
            3:00:40
          
          
            Starkweather Rolando Gonzalez,
Sir Michael Anthony and sound
          
                  
            3:00:44
          
          
            guy Steve. Yeah, we got a good
five minutes here, but they're
          
                  
            3:00:47
          
          
            all short and dynamite. Coming
up next. I know AGENDA
          
                  
            3:00:49
          
          
            stream.com We have the
intergalactic boombox episode
          
                  
            3:00:56
          
          
            number 88. Short and sweet.
You'll like it a lot. Me love
          
                  
            3:00:59
          
          
            the intergalactic Bloom Box
coming to you from the heart of
          
                  
            3:01:02
          
          
            the Texas hill country here in
FEMA Region number six in the
          
                  
            3:01:05
          
          
            morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,
          
                  
            3:01:07
          
          
            John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where I remain
          
                  
            3:01:12
          
          
            Adam Curry: who do you remain?
I'm trying to see divorce. Okay,
          
                  
            3:01:15
          
          
            just checking. Please remember
us at divorce.org/na We'll see
          
                  
            3:01:20
          
          
            you on Thursday everybody until
then, remember, brush your
          
                  
            3:01:23
          
          
            teeth. Adios mofos a hui Hui,
and such
          
                  
            3:01:40
          
          
            Unknown: Could you take a quick
look at my brain data? Look at
          
                  
            3:01:43
          
          
            my greatest input frame data
          
                  
            3:01:51
          
          
            look at hiring data.
          
                  
            3:01:57
          
          
            Rendina
          
                  
            3:02:04
          
          
            Could you look at migraine data?
Look at my brain data. Data,
          
                  
            3:02:11
          
          
            data, data, data data?
          
                  
            3:02:26
          
          
            I am chatbot you can question
me? Even though I don't know my
          
                  
            3:02:32
          
          
            DCS asked me anything. And I
will make you believe need an
          
                  
            3:02:38
          
          
            essay book report. A summary for
the Supreme Court. And if I'm
          
                  
            3:02:44
          
          
            wrong, I'd feel bad to take the
blame. You want my advice? I'm
          
                  
            3:02:53
          
          
            programmed what to say. I may
sound precise. It is just like
          
                  
            3:03:00
          
          
            what you hear on your TV. Now, I
should tell you, I might lie to
          
                  
            3:03:07
          
          
            you. I could be wrong. You are
convinced. I am chatbot
          
                  
            3:03:18
          
          
            This is disgust a lot of people
in here who have absolutely no
          
                  
            3:03:22
          
          
            reason to be lying. You know Ron
lots of assurances but residents
          
                  
            3:03:27
          
          
            there just don't seem to trust
what they're being told how it's
          
                  
            3:03:30
          
          
            gone into hundreds and hundreds
of people's houses to touch that
          
                  
            3:03:34
          
          
            air. It's good.
          
                  
            3:03:36
          
          
            Getting any numbers about are
you even testing for benzene?
          
                  
            3:03:40
          
          
            What are the levels that are not
a section
          
                  
            3:03:42
          
          
            of sulfur Ron, that is very near
the crash site remains severely
          
                  
            3:03:49
          
          
            contaminated. We knew this. We
know this if the fire went out
          
                  
            3:03:53
          
          
            and UK air monitoring has not
detected any levels of health
          
                  
            3:03:56
          
          
            concern in the community that
aren't attributed to the due to
          
                  
            3:04:00
          
          
            the training derailed. We
continue to monitor the air. The
          
                  
            3:04:04
          
          
            air is good. The governor
          
                  
            3:04:05
          
          
            said again today that the water
is safe to drink even though
          
                  
            3:04:09
          
          
            some people have been
questioning the test results.
          
                  
            3:04:11
          
          
            Are you confident enough sir
that you yourself would drink
          
                  
            3:04:14
          
          
            it?
          
                  
            3:04:14
          
          
            Absolutely. If I was there right
now I would drink it. Would you
          
                  
            3:04:17
          
          
            say here? Would you drink that
water? The water we have tested
          
                  
            3:04:22
          
          
            comes back. Good.
          
                  
            3:04:24
          
          
            It has been two weeks since a
train derailed and caught fire
          
                  
            3:04:27
          
          
            in East Palestine tonight.
Residents there say they are
          
                  
            3:04:31
          
          
            really worried about the
aftermath of the chemicals that
          
                  
            3:04:34
          
          
            spilled and were released
          
                  
            3:04:36
          
          
            as of today. Based on the facts
that are there today. FEMA can't
          
                  
            3:04:41
          
          
            do anything.
          
                  
            3:04:42
          
          
            The giant Chinese balloon that
had been floating across parts
          
                  
            3:04:45
          
          
            of the United States has been
shut down by an American fighter
          
                  
            3:04:49
          
          
            jet.
          
                  
            3:04:49
          
          
            Asked about the catch of the
day. It's the Chinese spy
          
                  
            3:04:53
          
          
            balloon failed by the US Navy.
          
                  
            3:04:55
          
          
            We are just getting pictures of
the Chinese spy balloons shot
          
                  
            3:04:58
          
          
            down off the coast of China.
Carolina the Pentagon
          
                  
            3:05:01
          
          
            is revealing new information
tonight about the spy balloon I
          
                  
            3:05:04
          
          
            believe to be part of an
extensive Chinese surveillance
          
                  
            3:05:07
          
          
            operation
          
                  
            3:05:08
          
          
            Pentagon believes
          
                  
            3:05:09
          
          
            another Chinese surveillance
balloon is now flying over the
          
                  
            3:05:12
          
          
            US
          
                  
            3:05:15
          
          
            balling. To tell the people of
Montana we couldn't have shot it
          
                  
            3:05:18
          
          
            down over Montana Republican
Congressman Mike Gallagher says
          
                  
            3:05:22
          
          
            it should have been shot down
before it reached the US I gave
          
                  
            3:05:25
          
          
            you order to take down these
three objects debris from the
          
                  
            3:05:29
          
          
            shoot down lies scattered across
seven miles
          
                  
            3:05:32
          
          
            making get more information
through the debris that they are
          
                  
            3:05:35
          
          
            recovering right now.
          
                  
            3:05:36
          
          
            I make no apologies for taking
down that.
          
                  
            3:05:39
          
          
            It's the first time an aircraft
has been shut down over US
          
                  
            3:05:42
          
          
            territory since World War Two.
          
                  
            3:05:45
          
          
            Committees are reporting to me
daily and will continue to
          
                  
            3:05:48
          
          
            urgent efforts to do so and I'll
communicate that to the
          
                  
            3:05:51
          
          
            Congress. Hundreds on the ground
watch the Top Gun drama unfold.
          
                  
            3:05:55
          
          
            Nothing right now suggests
they're related to China's spy
          
                  
            3:05:58
          
          
            billing program, or whatever
surveillance vehicles from any
          
                  
            3:06:02
          
          
            other country
          
                  
            3:06:04
          
          
            Hey, it's Dr. Tony Fauci. Yeah
minor hate I'm getting into
          
                  
            3:06:09
          
          
            trouble over my new paper. Did
you ever think you'd see the day
          
                  
            3:06:14
          
          
            when I'm the one being fact
checked? I already told you is
          
                  
            3:06:18
          
          
            if you question me you're
questioning the science and that
          
                  
            3:06:23
          
          
            is the worst thing you could do.
Okay, so I said a couple of
          
                  
            3:06:27
          
          
            things different over time. Up
until now everyone just kind of
          
                  
            3:06:32
          
          
            went along with it you know, but
now everyone's getting mad at me
          
                  
            3:06:37
          
          
            when I lied to us you get mad
when I tell you is the truth.
          
                  
            3:06:42
          
          
            Get get even mad. I tell you is
I can't catch a break. When am I
          
                  
            3:06:47
          
          
            supposed to you know what no
from now on. So I flipped out
          
                  
            3:06:52
          
          
            she says whatever talked about
he wants to say the leashes off
          
                  
            3:06:57
          
          
            baby have fun fighting over this
one suckers. And you thought I
          
                  
            3:07:02
          
          
            was required international help
is on the way.
          
                  
            3:07:06
          
          
            You mentioned the brace is light
over dark.
          
                  
            3:07:08
          
          
            hope over fear. Stability over
stable steel fighting in Ukraine
          
                  
            3:07:14
          
          
            for freedom and cash flow. I
give the order to take it down.
          
                  
            3:07:18
          
          
            It's time to go 600,000
Hiroshima class atomic bombs
          
                  
            3:07:23
          
          
            exploding
          
                  
            3:07:23
          
          
            every single day on the earth.
Wow. Wow, it's definitely in
          
                  
            3:07:28
          
          
            Ukraine. Today. Every Air Force
pilot is a king.
          
                  
            3:07:35
          
          
            Boiling the oceans creating
these atmospheric rivers and the
          
                  
            3:07:39
          
          
            rain
          
                  
            3:07:39
          
          
            bombs.
          
                  
            3:07:40
          
          
            We now have in place the
toughest sanctions ever
          
                  
            3:07:44
          
          
            introduced by the European
Union.
          
                  
            3:07:46
          
          
            All of this is on record. NATO
is now warning Ukraine is using
          
                  
            3:07:49
          
          
            so much ammunition of all times
Western allies cannot find it
          
                  
            3:07:53
          
          
            fast enough.
          
                  
            3:07:54
          
          
            Another unidentified object has
been shot down over North
          
                  
            3:07:57
          
          
            American estimates usually break
off recently, we will track all
          
                  
            3:08:02
          
          
            the dogs trying to hide or to
sell the assets escapes
          
                  
            3:08:06
          
          
            and Russia is assembling more
troops as it prepares for a new
          
                  
            3:08:10
          
          
            military offensive tied to the
wars one year anniversary.
          
                  
            3:08:13
          
          
            I think the end is just a
question of time right now. It's
          
                  
            3:08:16
          
          
            a question of how many more
people in Solinsky wants to kill
          
                  
            3:08:19
          
          
            of his own people. It's gonna be
over.
          
                  
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