February 26th, 2023 • 2h 52m
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John C Dvorak: Hey, you can turn
Cleveland into Paris. Adam curry
John C. Devora.
Adam Curry: February 26 2023
This is your award winning keep
on nation media assassination
episode 1533
Unknown: This is no agenda
shifting from
Adam Curry: flat to C n
broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas hill country here
in FEMA Region number 16. The
Morning everybody I'm Adam curry
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry.
Adam Curry: And you're sorry and
I'm not are you still laughing
about my my Joe says You're
still laughing about that. Do
you don't know that that by the
way for people who are on the
pre stream that was a genuine
Jhansi Dvorak laugh not awesome
version. Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah. Do you want to do it over?
Are you good with where we know
I want to do it. Okay. All
right, I'm ready. Hit it.
Unknown: Adam curry
Adam Curry: Jhansi Devorah
February 26 2023. This is your
award winning give our nation
media assassination episode 1533
This is no agenda shifting from
bad to she and broadcasting live
from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in FEMA Region
number six. In the morning,
everybody. I'm Adam Perry
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley, where it's
snowing everywhere. I'm Jhansi
Dvorak.
Adam Curry: It's actually
snowing in California. Oh, it's
John C Dvorak: snowing quite a
bit. It was a blizzard warning
down in SoCal,
Adam Curry: but I mean it's
snowing. Were
John C Dvorak: you not blizzard?
Literally a blizzard warning.
Oh, what
Adam Curry: are we going to
drift into over the years? Shut
down the power. Shut it down.
John C Dvorak: So they had to
shut down?
Adam Curry: They will not they
will. So So Is it snowing where
you aren't? Because that's
that's pretty new.
John C Dvorak: A couple of days
ago, so flakes may have fallen.
There were some nice bolts of
lightning though. They were
stunners. But the snow up in
Oakland Hills snowed in the
little model train they got up
there. Oh, snowed in Mont ham
snowed in? Well, this daughter
came up with a good
pronunciation for Mount Tamil
pious mount to monopolists. I
think.
Adam Curry: Don't call it mount
tam is when everyone calls her
that's not
John C Dvorak: a cam. Yeah,
yeah. I like mount to
monopolists.
Adam Curry: So this is clearly
global warming. Yeah, just
record low. Just want to make
sure to record
John C Dvorak: lows, record low
highs, in other words to high
temperature record for all time.
All time ever. Yeah. Well,
including the Paleo this thick
period, I think but in San
Francisco. One example record
low of all time. Well, please
Adam Curry: tell me that there's
a warm please. Yes. Please tell
me there's a report telling us
that this is because of global
warming. I will need that
report.
John C Dvorak: To be honest
about it. I looked and looked
and no one wanted to bring it
up. I found it.
Adam Curry: Oh no. You got one.
Where's it and it
John C Dvorak: came it didn't
come from any of our sources. It
came from Al Jazeera. This is
California cold reverse Al
Jazeera.
Unknown: Oops sorry. California
is experiencing an unusually
cold and wet winter with
flooding and mudslides in a
state longer affected by drought
and wildfires. People here say
they've been warned to prepare
for more extreme weather in the
coming days.
I think that is one of the
biggest concerns is we are
looking at a lot of rainfall
snow, the snow will melt and the
wind and we worry about the
mudslides and flooding since
we've had it twice already.
Experts say powerful winter
storms mixed with spells of
extreme heat and dry weather are
symptoms of climate change.
Adam Curry: Wait who was an
expert? I just want to hear who
that was. Again, we
Unknown: make sure experts say
powerful winter storm experts
was mixed with spelled out do
you
Adam Curry: think they just add
that at any report? They call up
an experts expert, expert,
expert expert. Tell me what do
you think? Oh, yeah, AJ,
John C Dvorak: you know, the
funny thing is nobody else did
that. They didn't try to pull
that because it would become you
know what? Yeah, but Algis
you're through it? And so yeah,
you can see what they're all
about.
Adam Curry: I want to say a big
in the morning to the former
podcasters who are joining us
today. Tell me more the pod
fasters people who have
deliberately now stopped
listening to podcasts that 1.5
or double speed and I've former
podcasters and I've gotten
tremendous results have been
reported. This is the one I love
the most. Do you have your mic?
Just make sure I'm gonna make
sure you're holding on to it.
John C Dvorak: I've got a tight
grip on it. That's what it
sounds like also the mic now
Adam Curry: people are finding
that they have more patience now
with their children and spouse.
Please, this is the truth. I'm
getting these messages, saying,
you know, I, I was always
listening at 1.5 speed. And I
always felt that normal
conversation with like, get to
the point. Come on child. What's
your problem about the homework?
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, cuz you
can't get the kid to speak to
1.5
Adam Curry: No. And this is what
it does to you.
John C Dvorak: This is what it
may be. This may be an element
of one of our producers Cheryl
who sent in this following note.
Oh, okay. Hi, gents. Thanks for
the amygdala maintenance. I'm
responding to a recent segment
regarding listening speeds for
podcasts. There you go. I've
stopped listening to most of the
rage bait people like that term.
Yes. I listen to you guys at
normal speed because you both
speak at a reasonable rate. But
there are many people I listen
to it 1.25 Because they talk
slow.
Adam Curry: Some people talk
slow.
John C Dvorak: 1.5 is most often
too fast for content absorption.
We've We've pointed that out
before. But good lord, some
people desperately need to pick
up their pace, all caps. I don't
need drama. But I do need people
to get in there freak and point
without droning.
Adam Curry: Well, that's not
that. Yeah, that's not a
question of people not speaking
fast. That's a question of a
boring podcast. Drop it from
your list.
John C Dvorak: As she signs off
with a northern girl who talks
fast and zones out when people
talk slow.
Adam Curry: Well, Roman sent me
a note and reminded me and that
we have discussed this on
episode 1200. Which I really
don't remember. But
John C Dvorak: I do remember us
talking about this before? Well,
Adam Curry: the interesting
thing Romans note was in the in
the show notes for episode 1200.
And his point at the time was
the end of this book, the
mission the men in me. And in it
an army psychologist describes
what the brain goes through
three phases saturation,
incubation and illumination when
learning something new. And so
he questioned if listening at a
higher speed than natural could
extend the phase of saturation
and inhibits the transition to
incubation and illumination,
thereby slowing or stopping your
ability to learn at all. And I
think there's something to that.
Hmm, it's an if anyone wants to
reread it. I mean, it's, there's
really, the revolution is
happening here. People are
slowing down their podcasts, and
we're leading the charge for
some odd reason. Then it's good.
It's much better if you
John C Dvorak: miss a lot of
intonation stuff, especially
when you're trying to do
something that's light. Even
though I don't know if news
deconstruction is technically
light, but it was you trying to
do something light or light
hearted? Yeah, there's a lot of
is a lot of it's in the new AMI
and intonation timing is
completely ruined by 1.5.
Adam Curry: And so yeah, so you
won't laugh anymore, you'll stop
the jokes will become less
funny. And let's face it, our
comedic stylings are what's
holding this ship together? See
a pregnant pause. A pregnant
pause. Another thing. Another
thing you won't get if you have
that your app chopping out
silences. Anyway, that's all
fine. Hey, I spoke to our vice
count, the executive director of
Project Veritas. You want to do
that now and you want to wait
for some of
John C Dvorak: you might as well
do it now. I'm kind of
interested.
Adam Curry: We spoke for about
an hour. Yeah, we spoke for an
hour on the holidays is gonna
take it's gonna take me an hour.
We spoke for about an hour. He's
Vikon by the way, sir Daniel
striker. And he has been the
Executive Director of Project
Veritas for a year. And so this
is this is his story. And I 100%
believe that I hate to say 100%
Do you so many people 100
John C Dvorak: complain about
this and you keep doing it? I
know. I don't believe I've ever
said that.
Adam Curry: No, no, not you
know, this is not you. This is
everyone else. This is okay.
percent.
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
what is it always like that
little 100 thing that you see as
an emoji?
Adam Curry: It's the it's the
white version of 100 which is
the black version of 100% and
Scott Scott to Galloway,
Professor G. He says it all the
time and that's why I'm picking
it up from and it's annoying me
he'd be like 100% 100 pissant
cara 100% Okay, go on off of
that. Get me off of that.
Please.
John C Dvorak: I don't notice
it. Sorry. So he I don't hear it
that much from anyone I don't
listen to garlic Galloway, I got
one new one I've caught don't I
will bring up later in the show
is because it comes up in a
clip, okay. And they're using on
PBS to an extreme
Adam Curry: to an extreme,
there's one you use one extreme
you use to an extreme to an
extreme. And so we here we
dissect things don't wait, we
get nitty gritty. So an
executive director is Executive
Director, CEO and a nonprofit
are almost interchangeable.
Often it's exactly the same
thing. But in this case, the
executive director reports to
the CEO, the CEO was James
O'Keefe. And our Vikon was quick
to point out he is the ninth
operating person because that's
really what he is, in this case,
in 12 years a Project Veritas.
John, I think you want to say
he's like to see subsidises? Oh,
yes. That's what he said. He was
brought in, he was hired by
James O'Keefe, to help them with
with the data in line with the
day to day management, because,
again, he's the ninth operating
officer in 12 years at Project
Veritas, I think we can identify
that that's an indicator. Yes,
140 staff have turned over in
the last seven years. Another
indicator? That's a big one.
That's a really big one. They
actually have to do some
headcount reduction. He was
brought in to do this. Oh,
hatchet, man. Yeah, a bit of a
well, he also brought in HR.
Hello, this is where the
problems begin. So you know, so
people have a way and a place
now to go and complain. So he
knows. So I don't think he
really knows James O'Keefe. I
don't I certainly don't. But
from his description, this is
very much. I mean, after
listening to, after listening to
his story, and he was he was
just talking and talking. The
way James O'Keefe runs the
business is, especially for
creative people. If you don't
like it, if you can't get it
done, you're fired, which I've
heard all my life in mainstream
television production. So it
doesn't faze me. It comes and
goes, Yeah, I'm sure that this
is not the pleasant for younger
people who have not witnessed
this management style.
John C Dvorak: Roseanne Barr
used to be notorious oh really
in the writers room. He just
yelling at some poor writer
you're and it was always the
same phrase. I'm thinking you're
so fucking fired? Yes, yes. Say
Adam Curry: yes. People have no
right I bet the writers room to
this day are still like that on
many shows, writers rooms are
brutal. So so when you know so
now they have a lot of middle
management now or management, I
should say a Project Veritas.
Even if you look at their form
990 They have a chief strategy
officer. What What kind of
position is that even a Chief
Strategy Officer, this is
marketing, basically marketing,
a business development or donor
stewardship.
John C Dvorak: Also marketing,
also marketing in most jobs or
marketing,
Adam Curry: certainly in a
nonprofit environment, you're
marketing to your donors. So the
other part of the way James
O'Keefe runs is look, I've got
to do this. I'm raising money.
I've got to go to this shoot, I
need a jet. Get it Now get me
the Presidential Suite. I need
everyone up there for meetings.
So in effect, very similar to
bill in my mind, where Bill
Gates says, hey, I can fly
private jets because look at all
the good I'm doing. For Nancy
Pelosi, you know, like I can fly
anywhere I want I can I'm doing
good. Does that make sense?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it does,
actually.
Adam Curry: And this is not this
is not crazy for someone who
starts a company like this and
organization, what they're now
1213 years, whatever they've
they've they've been been
running and building is, you
know, this is how you run
things. And the more management
come came in, and at a certain
point if if the CFO says no, you
can't do that, and the CEO fires
the CFO without the board and
the board is all jacked on being
precise. And you know it is look
this if your nonprofit 501, c
three and C four, you have to
report and you have to and you
have a fiduciary responsibility.
So that's where things got out
of whack and it just came to
this I'm paraphrasing what are
what are our vi count there? So
it just came to a head where the
board said no, no, you cannot
you can no longer have this
power to just fire and spend it
Do whatever you want, then the
suggestion was, Well, my
favorite. Yeah, well, we'll give
you a title like President,
which I loved. I've been the
president of all my companies,
because you have, you're totally
in the executive team, but you
have no responsibility. I'm just
the president. No, no, no, I'm
doing anything else. And you
should get a private plane
budget, whatever the guy needs
to operate, because he's also
doing most of the fundraising.
It appears to me. Yeah. But but
that mechanism of removing him
as CEO that just set him off?
And he's like, no, no, no, this
is a coup, which of course it
is. And I'm not going to I'm not
going to come back. And so he's
not officially resigned. He's,
he's, you know, everyone's still
on the payroll, although now
parts of the staff are literally
down the street at his apartment
working out of his apartment
with him. So it's, it's one of
those almost like, what's it
like the office where Michael,
you know, starting something
new, and he goes to me, and he
has half the staff in his
apartment, these things are not
good. And it's come to a head
where the best solution would be
for James to come back and
everyone to work it out. I don't
think anyone sees that happening
at all at all at all.
John C Dvorak: Well, it was a
nice experiment. It went on for
13 years, personally, and I
don't want to get any flack for
this. But I don't think they
accomplished the damn thing.
Adam Curry: Well, and this, this
was kind of my point when I was
talking to him like, you know,
so as a corn gone. That was his
first expos egg. Has Has Pfizer
stopped doing what they're
doing. Now, it seems like we got
a big cheerleading squad for
everything. But I mean, the same
with us. I mean, nothing we
exposed the chat doesn't change
anything. It changes people's
minds. I think that's what we're
John C Dvorak: what we're not
trying to change the world.
We're trying to get people to
line up dotata correctly Speak
for yourself. Well, you might be
but not to me, believe me.
Adam Curry: No, I understand. I
understand. So, you know,
John C Dvorak: I think they're
trying to change the world, it
seems to me
Adam Curry: Yes. And the end,
they end there's a huge belief
in the journalists, and I think
they're looking at possibly a
new face for the organization,
which is an interesting move. If
they if they did it fast enough,
I think they, they could
possibly do that. And that's and
that's, that's the downside is,
you know, the people who work
there really believe they're
saving the world doing all these
things, and that it's about the
work and it's not about James,
and to which I respectfully said
to our vi count, bro. James is
Project Veritas I don't I don't
see how anything else. And I
think they're prepared to go
through a rough patch, and start
and try to reboot without him.
John C Dvorak: It's not
impossible. It's been done.
You're you have a super
charismatic leader who gets
booted out and somebody else
comes in who can carry the load.
rare, very rare, very my
conclusion to that possibility.
Rare, it can't happen. But it's
a dream world kind of thing. If
you got still got cash flow and
everything coming through, yeah,
you can probably coast for a
year or two, you better get that
guy fast. I don't know if you
can do it. And then again, you
have to take a look at what
you're doing. Here's Project
Veritas just kind of a more
serious version of candid
camera. I mean, they don't tell
you when to turn around the Hey,
look over there. There's a
camera. Yeah. I mean, I just I'm
very disappointed in I mean, I
like what they've done. I like
the Pfizer thing. I liked the
whole thing. But again, it
accomplished nothing. The
mainstream media's got to stick
up their ass about any of it. So
if they come up with the real
scoop, which they've done,
literally, yeah, it doesn't get
picked up by anyone. It's so
it's, it's outside the
mainstream, it's fringe.
Adam Curry: It's like the
Twitter files, you know, they
might as well not exist. They
just might as well not. It's
good for everyone else like hey,
you know, that's right. But
that's about it. And the biggest
problem with running this type
of organization, because I had
the 2021 filing over $4 million
in legal fees. And he let me in
on the on the financials. He
said, Oh, no, we did. We spent 7
million the last year on legal
fees. Yep, this is the problem
and doesn't matter who's going
to do this. You need that type
of backing, and and fundraising
quite honestly, to make to make
something like that work.
John C Dvorak: It seems to me
that the only way you can make
something like that work is it
is actually a legal office that
didn't have a city area.
Adam Curry: Law office that
John C Dvorak: has a law firm
and major New York law there and
has a subsidiary that goes and
does those videos. There you go
take them on. That's the way to
go. And
Adam Curry: Rudy Giuliani should
John C Dvorak: be doing that.
Yeah, yeah. Or yeah,
Adam Curry: he won't. But so I
guess what I might take
John C Dvorak: away from is they
have to run everything through
legal and legal says no to
everything.
Adam Curry: But you know, no,
O'Keefe, you're not gonna see
funding, I think a lot of
donors, although, you know, they
say, oh, no, we've got donors
secured. I know, I know, our
Vikon believes it. I have no,
John C Dvorak: I might have some
secured for the short term. I
don't know. I've never seen
O'Keefe do a sales pitch, but
he's probably pretty decent.
Adam Curry: He's well,
apparently, he's one of the
problems was that one of the
board members had a pretty
exclusive get together. And and
O'Keefe was there. And then you
know, the next day or whatever
he's yelling, like, you need to
send everyone who was there this
email? Well, no, do this. This
was like, casual. These are my
people, you know, it's an
introduction. No, you need to
send this email to all of them.
So when you get into that level,
where you're you're yelling at
your board, because you want to
fundraise through their network
kind of directly? This is not
how it works. Or in my
experience, let's put it that
way.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, no,
you can't exploit some of these
these networks. They they're
very sensitive to it. Extremely
sensitive. This is like the
these are the networks that fund
museums. Yeah.
Adam Curry: I think you're
right, actually. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: You notice like
they've you talked to some I
know people that have
fundraiser,
Adam Curry: O'Keefe hangs out
with, with Bobby Kennedy, Jr.
You know, he's up in those
levels. Yeah, these are the
people that fund museums. I
agree. I agree.
John C Dvorak: And when you talk
to these guys who are
fundraising that they talk
about? Oh, yeah, we picked we
brought in $15 million last
month. They were short. Yeah.
Right. I'm thinking oh, geez,
yeah. Me what's going on anyway,
Adam Curry: whatever. If there's
any ulterior motive behind any
of this, and it's still very
possible, even on the O'Keefe
side, I'm not I'm leaving any
everything open to
possibilities. I do not think
that you can resurrect this,
even and I know who they're
talking to, even with the UN,
which I've promised not to tell,
even with a new name to come in
a new face. I just don't I think
it's too tough. And for O'Keefe
to continue, yeah, he needs the
law office that he I'm sure he
can fundraise from a lot of the
same people but he'll need the
law office, that's what you
need. Otherwise, it's just a non
starter, he can get lots of
people to do the work. So it
just seems like we got a lot of
so many of these cool projects.
You know, and, and the
alternative media just turned
out to be you know, like a lot
of big money problems behind the
scenes. Like Crowder Shapiro Oh,
this you know what I mean?
John C Dvorak: Well, they
they're they're swinging for
they're not like you know the no
agenda team or you have a late
we stay lean we stay I mean, we
are especially to we don't we're
not turning it into anything
other than what turns itself
into in other words that the
like the no agenda shop, for
example, very few people would
allow that they don't wouldn't
let him shop just go out and
make no agenda. Just make mugs
do it in house and that cost
money and it costs as overhead
and it costs extra people. It's
just these are the mistakes they
make. Yeah, and we get some
mistake to make mugs if you're a
podcaster. You podcast you don't
you're not in the mug business.
Adam Curry: No merch merch,
John C Dvorak: get oh, call me
up and you're gonna see some
merch.
Adam Curry: I don't want no
merch. Yeah, you know, and as
the world turns towards a great
title for a sitcom, As the World
Turns, and more and more people
go to Soros for funding. I mean,
my God, man, how many district
attorneys how many? How many
politicians have not been
hanging off the Soros Open
Society Institute. And now that
guy is so toast that just
imagine going to pitch Soros.
And this is real time. This has
not edited and he's just trying
to get a word out in this case.
I think he's trying to say
something. I don't even know
what he's trying to say. About
gold warming but just listen
listen to this. This is what
you'd have to deal with. Yes,
Mr. Soros would really like some
funding for our global warming
project
Unknown: increase the level of
the oceans
Adam Curry: Okay, thanks sign
the cheque old man.
John C Dvorak: Wow,
Unknown: that guy's so
John C Dvorak: toast. He's gone.
Adam Curry: That's, you know
like we have that's we have a
senior moment. This is like my
man is already dead moment. Like
he's just he's just like death
rattle so sad anyway, so it was
a good clip. Yeah, thanks. It
seems like everything is well
actually I know what you have
today but what I'm seeing is a
major shift to from Russia to
China. Now everything that's
going on we there's a China
element to it. And China is now
also well, let's listen to the
headline. Are you ready? Get
ready, everybody. This is a
mainstream media headline.
Unknown: A special edition of
the CBS Evening News. We're here
on one of the largest warships
in the world, a US Navy aircraft
carrier that has just returned
from the South China Sea. And
just today CBS News learning the
Pentagon plans to increase the
number of troops in Taiwan as
the independent Island hopes to
hold off Chinese aggression.
Tonight aboard the USS Nimitz,
with 5000 of America's concern
tonight about the possibility of
a new cold war with China with
China.
Adam Curry: Among the name it's
like got 5000 soldiers were at
war warship war war war. CBS CIA
broke us war. Listen to this,
these transitions feeds. This
one here. How closely
Unknown: is Xi Jinping and China
watching the war in Ukraine
Adam Curry: go see this is how
we do it. Xi
Unknown: Jinping is likely
watching the war in Ukraine very
closely very because it has both
economic implications for China
diplomatic implications for
China and military implications
for China.
To China. Yoshihara has spent
his career studying the Chinese
navy. He says Xi Jinping is
learning lessons as the Chinese
President considers invading
Taiwan.
The first is the nuclear saber
rattling that Putin engaged in
at the outset of the conflict.
Now, while Putin's nuclear
threats did not stop the west
from helping you
Adam Curry: notice the subtle
explosions in the background,
while they're talking here, it's
just it's so so deep
Unknown: saber rattling that
Putin is engaged in at the
outset of the conflict. Now,
while Putin's nuclear threats
did not stop the west from
helping Ukraine, I think it was
clear that the United States and
its NATO allies, were very
cautious took Putin's words
seriously. And so Xi Jinping
might learn that it might be to
China's benefit to similarly
engage in early nuclear threats.
Republican Congressman Mike
Gallagher is a Marine veteran
and chairs the new house
committee focused on China,
one of the lessons of Ukraine is
that when dictators tell you,
they're going to do something
you should pay attention,
President Biden, oh, to defend
Taiwan, setting the US stop.
Adam Curry: We've had lessons by
watching Putin.
John C Dvorak: Putin said he's
not going to invade Ukraine. In
those early days, he says
nonsense, and I'm like, we're
not gonna do anything to it. He
said, I can find clips. Yeah. So
this guy says, Oh, the guy says
that we're supposed to pay
attention. So we should just
backed off. I mean, make up your
mind.
Unknown: A good point he they're
going to do something you should
pay attention
press. Well, they paid attention
to it in Biden has pledged to
defend Taiwan setting the US and
China up for a possible conflict
this decade,
really escalated into a conflict
between our navies that would
entail a level of destruction
and death that we haven't seen
for a long, long time.
Adam Curry: Oh, you sound almost
giddy about destruction and
death we haven't seen for a
long, long time on getting all
worked up just thinking about
it. And it's across the
political spectrum we have dusty
Johnson from Where's you South
Dakota? I think he took over
louie Gohmert No, no, no. Who
was South Texas, Texas? Well
listen to this guy, dusty
Johnson.
Unknown: Let me now bring in
Congressman dusty Johnson. He's
a Republican from South Dakota.
And he's a member of that House
Select Committee on China. It's
good. Just it's good to hear
from you. Thank you for coming
on. Let me start with. We heard
from Mike Gallagher, the chair
of the committee that you're on,
can't get weapons there fast
enough? What does that look
like? And what is the balance
between helping Ukraine and
helping Taiwan that you'd like
to see
Adam Curry: balance?
Unknown: Well, your other guests
were right about a depletion of
the stockpile. So I do think we
want to be strategic and forward
looking. You know, Churchill, I
think called the United States,
the arsenal of democracy. And
clearly that is still true. But
we do need to, to arm the
Taiwanese. This, the threat from
the Chinese Communist Party is
only growing, we have seen their
pattern of aggression, get, I
think, more provocative. And so
this is something the select
committee is gonna be spending a
lot of time discussing.
Adam Curry: So I'll play one
more just to identify that the
narrative is shifting from
Russia to China. Taiwan is the
new Ukraine, but maybe, you
know, maybe Taiwan is the new
I'm sorry. that Japan is the new
Poland or maybe that's the
Philippines. Here's here's the
guy from Texas moron. I think
he's the one that replaced louie
Gohmert
Unknown: Vladimir Putin is
national address
this week appeared to confirm
the war in Ukraine is not ending
anytime soon. Yesterday top lip
and diplomat from China they're
in. In Moscow. Are we entering
Adam Curry: a new phase of this
war? A Ukraine phase?
Unknown: I certainly believe so.
Make no mistake that this war in
Ukraine is is about more than
just the conflict between Russia
and Ukraine, and about more than
just that geographic region.
Truly, this is becoming a proxy
conflict between the United
States and China, the two
dominant superpowers,
how about that?
Adam Curry: What? Yes, no,
John C Dvorak: no, no, this one
it was on you what your I think
what you can claim here is that
it was on his mind. But this is
not a proxy conflict between the
US and China. This is
Adam Curry: this is this is what
they're saying. This is exactly
what this is
John C Dvorak: what they're
thinking, Well, of course,
Unknown: yes, Truly, this is a
proxy
Adam Curry: conflict between the
United States is becoming it's
becoming truly it's becoming a
proxy conflict. Yes, graphic
Unknown: region. Truly, this is
becoming a proxy conflict
between the United States and
China, the two dominant
superpowers economically
throughout the world. And what
most people seem to forget in
this conflict is, look, if if we
can't push back hard against
Russian imperialism and Russian
aggression, in this instance,
we're gonna see greater issues,
we're gonna have to deal with
down the line by a growing Axis
of Evil, that being Russia,
North Korea, China, Iran, those
entities and those countries
that say, we don't want freedom,
we don't want individual
liberties. And we're going to
capture the rest of the rest of
the world and push our agenda on
them. And so we've got to
understand that we have to, we
have to push the Russians back
out of Ukraine. And if we don't,
we're going to end up in a
situation where there's greater
conflict to deal with, and
greater responsibility that
we're going to have to, we're
going to have to take on so. But
listen to the Russian invasion
here, it won't stop at Ukraine.
If we don't stop them. The
Ukrainian stop is going to
continue through other other
countries. Oh, no, it's
Adam Curry: going over here.
It's going all over Europe.
John C Dvorak: I don't know. You
know, they pushed and pushed his
NATO thing about section five or
rule 10 or whatever it is. And
yet yet these guys keep saying
stuff like this, which is bull
crap. Well, and by the way, this
bull crap about if this happens,
and that happens, and this
happens is that happens. This is
what got us in the Vietnam War,
according to everybody at the
time. Oh, yeah. Well, Vietnam
falls in next is the domino
theory. And it was the domino
theory and so the whole world is
going to be communist overnight.
Adam Curry: Well, let's go to
the source of this bullcrap. Her
name is Anne Applebaum. She is
the one that keeps propagating
the actually I've two clips and
it's worth playing both of them.
Now she's married to an
ambassador. I think she's a
troublemaker.
John C Dvorak: She's also the
head of a lot of these kind of
Soros backed operations. I'll
listen
Adam Curry: listen to her
credentials, which MSNBC Velshi
Velshi will read them off.
Unknown: Joining me now is Anne
Applebaum. She's a Pulitzer
Prize winning historical
historian, a staff writer for
The Atlantic, a senior fellow at
the Johns Hopkins School of
Advanced International Studies,
and the Agora Institute. She's
the author of several Well
important books, including
twilight of democracy, the
seductive lure of
authoritarianism, red famine,
Stalin's war on Ukraine and Iron
Curtain the crushing of Eastern
Europe 1944, the 1950s, do you
think she has her head up or
brought about this six, there
may be no one with greater
specialty. And what is happening
here and thank you for this
evening here in Ukraine, I have
to ask you now a year in what
you see happening, as we look at
the situation in Ukraine, what
do
Adam Curry: you see happening?
Unknown: I mean, it's a very,
you know, it's a very difficult
war to assess, because on the
one hand, what's been achieved
is so extraordinary and was so
unexpected, and yet there is
still so much further to go. I
mean, this war will end when
Russia has understood that it
was a mistake. And that means a
John C Dvorak: voice. What?
She's got the voice, she's got
the voice of the of the women
that have you know, that
advertising, whatever you want
to call it. That same? In the
same meal? You Yes, yes.
Samantha Powers, that woman that
was an NPR ever all of them?
Yeah.
Unknown: I mean, this war will
end when Russia understood that
it was a mistake. And that means
we need to get to that point.
And that means Ukraine needs to
take back its territory, it
needs to convince Russia that it
can't win. And we aren't quite
there yet.
Adam Curry: Okay, so I like what
I'm hearing because they're
waffling like, well, you know,
Ukraine has to this will all war
when Putin realizes they've made
a mistake, and Ukraine has to
make them realize that, but
let's go to what I'm really
looking for is the lie. The lie
because whatever Putin only ever
said this about the Russian
Empire. He said, Anyone who
doesn't regret the passing of
the Soviet Union has no heart.
Anyone who wants it restored,
has no brains. That is in the
New York Times 20th, February
2000. So that second part, just
like very fine people, that
second part is never mentioned.
It's always anyone who doesn't
regret the passing of the Soviet
Union has no heart. So and that
is the only thing he has ever
said about this. I'm sorry. In
addition to that the demise of
the Soviet Union was the
greatest geopolitical
catastrophe of the century. This
is a preamble to that statement.
As for the Russian people, it
became a genuine tragedy tend to
millions of our fellow citizens
and countrymen found themselves
beyond the fringes of Russian
territory. And then anyone who
doesn't regret the passing of
the Soviet Union has no heart.
Anyone who wants it restored,
has no brains. Now, let's go to
Anne Applebaum. She has all the
credentials, she lives in the
milieu. And she wrote the
literally wrote the book on the
Russian Empire,
Unknown: the likelihood of
Vladimir Putin invading a NATO
country or even sending a
missile into a NATO country
seems lower now that they've got
most of their military in
Ukraine right now. But you are
saying that that that message
hasn't gotten through? Why is
that? Why does Vladimir Putin
not look at this and say, this
is an abject failure for Russia.
So this was never about NATO.
That was a lie that he told to
our security community and to
convince us not to help Ukraine.
Adam Curry: Guess what, they
were fooled. This was
Unknown: always about him. It
was about his vision of a
reconstructed Soviet Union of a
new Russian Empire. And it was
also always about his desire to
consider to destroy the forces
of democracy, and liberalism and
open society that he saw
developing in Ukraine, and which
he perceived as a threat to him
personally. He's somebody who
has a lot of nostalgia for the
Soviet Union for the for that
period. He's somebody who sees
democratic language democratic
activism, and of course, the
kind of democratic revolution
they had in Ukraine as a threat
to him. So this has always been
about crashing Ukraine and
crashing that movement. And he
hasn't achieved that. He's
attached a lot of his prestige
to that. There's a lot of doubt
about it around him. We know
that the Russian business
community in the security
community don't are not 100%
behind this war, but he
personally believes that his
power is connected to winning it
and so he has not yet been
convinced that he won't win. And
there are there are back channel
conversations and we know he's
not at that stage yet.
John C Dvorak: So we have cheese
liar.
Adam Curry: Yes. A massive liar.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, back to the
China thing. I have a clip.
Don't overlook this. These are
the clips. McCrone is going to
China. Oh,
Adam Curry: yeah. He's the big
piece of peacemaker, a
peacemaker McCrone, so, let's
John C Dvorak: go to McCrone,
China peace in Ukraine
Unknown: French president
Emmanuel Macron says he traveled
to China in just over a minute.
Discuss the war in Ukraine why?
On Friday, China released a
peace proposal. Beijing is
calling for an end to Western
sanctions on Russia, and he's
urging Moscow and Keith to hold
tours. Acropolis says it's
important for China to put
pressure on Russia to end the
war and withdraw from Ukraine.
President Alexander Lukashenko
has also announced he'll visit
Beijing in the coming days. But
a rooster is one of Russia's
closest allies. Last year Minsk
allowed the Kremlin to use its
territory to launch attacks on
Ukraine. Let's take a close look
at China's peace proposal now.
It follows talks between the top
Chinese diplomat Wang Yi and
Russian President Vladimir
Putin. Beijing is calling for an
end to Western sanctions on
Russia, and urging Moscow and
Kyiv to hold talks. My proposal
calls for the establishment of
humanitarian corridors for
civilians, and steps to ensure
grain that can be safely
exported from Ukraine. It also
warns against the use of nuclear
weapons in the conflict, as well
as attacks on nuclear power
plants.
Adam Curry: Oh, yes, of course.
John C Dvorak: That seems a lot
different in the reporting a
China's out to get us.
Adam Curry: Well, we have to
gaslight the American people
into being afraid of the
John C Dvorak: show. That's why
I had to go to Al Jazeera
England to get that clip as part
two coming up.
Unknown: But Andy mark is a
senior research fellow at the
Center for China and
globalization Think Tank. He
says peace in Ukraine is in the
best interests of China and the
wider international community.
I think China as a major
economy, one of the largest
economies in the world certainly
benefits.
Adam Curry: Wow, this guy sounds
like Janet Yellen. Is this a
financial guy? Like a banker?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, probably
the same milieu
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Oh,
Unknown: a major economy. One of
the largest economies in the
world certainly benefits. From
an end to hostilities unit. Of
course, this will improve global
sentiment, economic prosperity
and put the world back on a path
to economic prosperity has
benefits all countries,
especially larger countries like
China, I think that's one.
Certainly I think from a
reputation prestige perspective,
playing a role in bringing this
conflict to a close by when no
other major power has been able
to do so certainly, I think
would burnish China's
reputation. But we also have to
recognize that there's only so
much an honest broker can do and
sometimes we both sides have to
fight to a certain amount of
exhaustion before there can be a
negotiated settlement and
whether we're at this point yet
or not, I think remains to be
seen
John C Dvorak: that you
mentioned Yeltsin, by the way or
Yellen Yeltsin Yeltsin. Chris
Hedges of journalists is good.
The left wing journalist is very
well regarded. You said Yeltsin.
Oh, really, Yellen. Yeah, idiot.
Somebody sent me the clip. I
didn't, I forgot to put it on
here. But maybe he's listening
to the show.
Adam Curry: I have. Here's a
Secretary of State, Abe Lincoln,
on the Russia and China
narrative. Oh, we're also
hearing from the intel community
that China. Mind you. This is a
second clip, we've heard the
intel community, the intel
community community, the intel
community, the community keeps
telling us keeps telling us. So
we're hearing from the Intel
Committee, who is the this is
this is these are serious news
organizations. And they just
throw it out there. Oh, we're
just hearing from the intel
community. There's 15
organizations in the intel
community. Why don't you just
say CIA spooks who are inside
your organization? Oh, we're
also hearing from the intel
community that
John C Dvorak: China and the
intel community happens to be at
this desk. Right. Next right
over here. Oh, we're also
Unknown: hearing from the intel
community that China is
considering lethal aid to Russia
in support of their efforts. How
concerned are you with that? And
what sanctions are on the table
for preventing it? So we are
concerned? And in fact, that's
one of the reasons that I made
it public last week. What we've
seen from day one is, if you go
back to before the invasion
started, just a couple of weeks
before that. Vladimir Putin and
President Xi Jinping of China
had a meeting and they said they
had a partnership with no
limits. We were concerned from
day one, that that partnership
might result in China providing
lethal military assistance to
Mike for use in Ukraine. So
we've said from day one, don't
do it. We have information
recently that they're now
thinking about doing it. And so
we tried publicly, to as well as
privately to warn them against
it. There is no point in adding
fuel to the fire. China's trying
to have it both ways. They're
trying to present themselves as
neutral and a party for peace,
while at the same time aiding
and abetting Russia's war
effort, what
sanctions are on the table, net
them from providing this aid.
Well, they're At a multiplicity
of possible, listen to get into
the details, but what we said to
them greater details, you know,
meeting I had with our Senior
Foreign Policy official in
Munich last week is that this
would be a serious problem in
our relationship. So they're
just
Adam Curry: setting it up and
it's all for one thing.
John C Dvorak: We're the ones
setting it up. Yes. And this is
Adam Curry: all for the military
industrial complex who weave
right in through the CIA
broadcasting systems and let you
know that you know, we really
need we don't need more money.
John C Dvorak: We actually we
need to sell more jets to chuck
No, no, no, no, no. Went up to
Japan to
Adam Curry: hold on. You know, I
got a clip. I got a clip.
Unknown: The production line at
the Lockheed Martin plant in
Arkansas is gearing up to turn
out one new rocket every 10
minutes.
Adam Curry: We can't kill enough
people want every 30 minutes.
Unknown: It's part of the $30
million year 10
John C Dvorak: What was it? 30
or 10. I thought he said
Unknown: the production line at
the Lockheed Martin plant in
Arkansas is gearing up to turn
out one new rocket every 10
minutes.
Adam Curry: 10 minutes.
Unknown: I'm sorry, it's six an
hour. It's part of the $30
billion in weapons the US has
committed to Ukraine, but just a
fraction of the Pentagon
staggering $858 billion defense
budget. This is darn close to
being the biggest defense budget
that we have ever had. Since
World War Two. The only time the
US spent more on defense was at
the height of the wars in Iraq
and Afghanistan. We
Adam Curry: can do better boys.
Unknown: Oren Thompson of the
Lexington Institute says nearly
a third of that is spent on
weapons
that is the amount of money that
outstrips the entire economy of
most European countries.
Yet the Pentagon is hard pressed
Ukraine supplied with ammunition
for a couple of key
items the stockpile is getting
low what is low mean? We're at a
level where the risk for other
war plans becomes great
Adam Curry: what I love this
statement so what is what we're
supposed to think we need new
factory well we need it because
of China but I just love how he
says well other war plans we got
we got war plans we got you want
some more plans. Just get my
folder for some more war plan.
Doug
Unknown: Powell is getting low.
What is low mean? We're at a
level where the risk for other
war plans becomes great.
Other war plans hired Marine
colonel Mark Kassian of the
Center for Strategic and
International Studies, says
Ukraine's use of artillery
shells far outstrips the
Pentagon's capacity to make
that using about as much in a
month as
we produced in the year, if the
US can't keep Ukraine supplied
in its fight against a decrepit
Russian military. What would
happen to American forces in a
war against the number one
threat
was critically short of a couple
of key munitions, particularly
long range, anti ship missiles
can see and recently directed a
war game in which the US tried
to stop a Chinese invasion of
Taiwan to the US. And these four
games actually run out of these
long range anti ship missiles.
Yes, the US ran out of these
missiles in the first few days
of the week, look
John C Dvorak: at Hold on a
second. Let's stop and start
analyzing this right now. Are
these missiles any good? Well,
they take out a ship or they're
just shooting them left and
right. Are they are they
artillery shells being fired by
the Ukrainians joke? Are they
just firing them randomly?
Likely they used one. In one
month, they used up the entire
supply that it took us a year to
manufacture? Well, you know, one
month,
Adam Curry: I would say that
they shot off a third and the
other shoulder to Africa. Yes, I
would say it's all in Africa.
Now. That's our third froze
John C Dvorak: that. That's a
extrapolation of some logic. But
if but if you look at his
straight up, and they tell you
that the Ukrainians have used
these big candy shells, you
can't aim them. They either
can't aim or they what they're
doing where they're no good and
shooting him straight up. Who
knows what they're up to?
Adam Curry: It's no good. But
we're drawing the line. We're
drawing the line now. And I
think that's because, well,
here's the clip and then we'll
dissect it. This is now we're at
ABC David Muir, who had an
interview with the President. I
have a lot of clips, but I'll
just cherry pick here.
Unknown: We know that Germans
are now sending tanks in after
the US that it would send Abrams
tanks as well. But we know
President Solinsky continues to
say what he really needs are f6
teams. Will you send up 60s?
Look, look, we're saying what
our seasoned military thinks you
need to know. He needs tanks in
either Tillery he needs air
defense, including another
Highmore. There's things he
needs now that we're sending him
to put him in a position to be
able to make games this spring
and this summer going into the
fall. I don't think he needs F
16. Now he doesn't need f 60s
Now,
is that a never?
Look, first of all, look, the
idea that we know exactly what's
going to be needed to year to
three now, but there is no basis
upon which there is a rationale
according our military now to
provide F 60s, but you're not
ruling it out. I am early enough
for now.
Adam Curry: For now, this is
really interesting.
John C Dvorak: So first ways mu
are pushing this?
Adam Curry: Well. Listen, I have
the same question being pushed
by Stephanie rule over on MSNBC,
Unknown: President Zelensky has
been pressing the US for f 16
fighter jets. And here's what
President Biden said tonight,
when he was asked about that
we're sending him What are
season military seasons now
Adam Curry: season military, the
guy with the face mask,
Unknown: he needs to he needs to
every he needs, including
another Highmore, there's things
he needs now that we're sending
him to put them in a position to
be able to make gains in the
spring, and this summer, going
into the fall, you don't think
he needs F 16. Now he doesn't
need f 60s. Now there is no
basis upon which there is a
rationale, according to our
military now, to provide F 60s,
but you're not ruling it out. I
am really enough for now.
Adam Curry: So that's MSNBC,
replaying ABCs interview to
drive home the point no jets for
Ukraine, and I can only think
that means we need to send them
to Taiwan, or to Malaysia or
somewhere nearby
John C Dvorak: or want to send I
don't think that's possible. But
I think that that whole thing's
me, it'd be nice to send him
there. Because it's good sales.
But this whole thing seems to be
orchestrated by General
Dynamics. Well, that was their
goal was to sell the F 16. And
they wanted they I understood
they're gonna stop making them.
And
Adam Curry: also, they don't
have enough. The first thought
that came to my mind was, no one
wants to put more money into the
F 35. They don't have anything
really ready to fund yet. Like,
it's like, we're not ready for
that conversation. Because we'll
be you know, you send over the
if we send over the F 16. What
do we have left?
John C Dvorak: We have stuff we
won't send or like the F 22?
Would Yeah, yeah. This didn't
like given that to anybody.
Because if your first thing it
will happen to the F 22 is
somehow the Russians will end up
with it.
Adam Curry: The whole thing.
This is, I mean, we're being gas
lit about China being I mean,
really big time, and it's just
report after report after
report. Oh, China, oh, China.
It's all moving away from Trump.
It's all moving away from
Ukraine. It's all moving towards
China. So now, you know, it's
the it's the proxy war, the
proxy conflict we have?
John C Dvorak: Well China has to
do is just shut off all exports
to us, but they'd be screwed up
that they won't do that because
it's for themselves. But I do
have a bunch of clips. But
Adam Curry: one more things it
before you. First, I
John C Dvorak: want to get this
out of the way, which is your
prediction. Excuse me, that this
war is going to be over soon.
Oh, um, yeah, I'm not personally
I don't see it. But I will say
you have a confirming clip that
I have here. And this is on the
Brooks and cape.
Adam Curry: That Brooks and K
part that that can never be
taken as evidence or proof of
anything. I have to
John C Dvorak: I totally
disagree. This is this is Brooks
predicting his books predicting
when the war will end. Oh,
Adam Curry: this is gonna are
there sound effects in this 13
second bite, no doubt
Unknown: autocracy. And we could
see that after we see what
happens with the spring
offensive.
Do you see this stretching
another year? David? For sure.
Yeah, but I see us holding still
and hold the West holding firm.
Adam Curry: Go for another year?
For sure. He
John C Dvorak: says he said for
sure. I mean, it's over. Yeah, I
definitely say that's
confirmation for you. All right,
this guy has never been right
about anything. I have
Adam Curry: three clips to wind
that up. And then then we'll be
done with the war is over.
Because we had a big un get
together. Which right away the
Russians disturbed the whole the
whole peaceful process. Security
Council is called to order from
that. So we had the Ukrainian
ambassador to the UN, and he
wanted a moment of silence for
all the dead Ukrainians
Unknown: in the Security Council
chamber. Ukraine's Foreign
Minister wanted to remember the
cost of the past year, the cost
of Russia's invasion.
I kindly ask everyone to observe
a minute of silence in memory of
the victims of the aggression,
that Russia is representative
here interrupted the silence. He
had another idea perished all
and lives.
And that is why we're rising to
honor the memory of them all.
Adam Curry: So he said, No, no,
we are rising for all dead, not
just your dead.
Unknown: The Russian version of
history is that Ukraine started
all this, the Russian version of
history. I love it. The minute
silence resumed, he had
successfully sees Wow, what is
with these people? They were in
this chamber A year ago,
exactly. When Vladimir Putin in
Moscow chose to announce his
move on Ukraine. It represented
a total rejection of this
chamber, this institution and
the global order it tries to
preserve and this anniversary
was a chance to count the cost.
Adam Curry: Right. So then they
you know, they had a resolution
which says, Russia, bad Ukraine
good. And everyone signed off on
a China didn't sign off on it.
In Berlin, they, they drove a
Russian tank, that one that had
been burned out, and placed it
in front of the Russian Embassy
in Berlin as like, hey, you
know, this is what we're doing
to you. And what happened was
quite the opposite to what was
expected. People started laying
flowers on top of this Russian
tank that had burned out, so
people are kind of done with
this. In fact, before before I
play my, my, my coup de gras,
the here's the, what's his face,
Hakeem Jeffries. Now we only
really know Hakeem Jeffries.
Because he almost well, they he
could have been speaker of the
house.
John C Dvorak: No, he didn't
almost at all. Well, didn't
almost he couldn't have been if
it was a serious thing did last.
Now the last thing the Democrats
are going to really do if
they're actually going to choose
a true one, if they had the
chance to would not be this
guy's as he's a figurehead.
Adam Curry: So he's from
Brooklyn, he's in Brooklyn. He's
doing a town hall on what looks
like a throne. I don't know
where he was. And this guy, Jose
Vega, who seems like he may be
an Instagramer, or whatever, I
don't know him, and the audio
switches and switches back. So
it'll sound a little boomy for a
moment. But he really railed on
this guy about what's going on,
in particular, in regards to the
lack of questions or even
willingness to understand the
article that Seymour Hersh wrote
about the United States blowing
up the Nord Stream pipelines.
Unknown: The UN Security Council
had a meeting yesterday, and Ray
McGovern spoke to it. He is a
former member of the CIA. And he
testified in support of Seymour
Hersh, his article on the United
States bombing Nord Stream
pipeline. If it is proven that
the United States bombed the
Nord Stream two pipeline, as has
been asserted by Seymour Hersh
and his article, will you call
for the United States to
acknowledge and admit that that
was an act of war against
Germany and Russia. And I'm
asking this because this may be
the only way to prevent the rest
of us from being killed in a
thermonuclear war.
Adam Curry: And this is the
gaslighting that's going on,
we're gonna fry and I don't
Unknown: want to be fried. Don't
you think the media should be
reporting on whether or not this
is true? And don't you think you
should be inquiring into whether
or not this is true,
Adam Curry: valid question from
the constituent, but are we
going to answer?
Unknown: Well, thank you for the
question. One, I've got no
information to suggest that the
United States was involved in
bombing the Nord Stream
pipeline,
because he wouldn't, you
wouldn't you would have been you
weren't briefed on it. Or you
got your chance to switch? Good
information because he
explicitly says you weren't
fires.
So here's what I'll say about I
think the President minds
leadership generally, as it
relates to the Ukraine and
Russia, we
committed an act of war. What
are you doing to respond to
that? We have the whole Biden
accountable. Listen, you from
Brooklyn, right? You know when
to call bullshit when you see
this is bullshit right now. And
I see why happening right now.
That does not silence me. So you
can hit me right now. I want you
to say something about the
bombings because we're all going
to die from a nuclear war right
now. At least put in inquire
into whether or not it's true.
This war in Ukraine is gonna
leave us all dead. So what are
you going to do because you need
to inquire I'm a New Yorker.
is what I'll say. We're gonna
continue to stand with the
Ukrainian or against police.
We need courts. Get
your hands on beats we need.
Adam Curry: Well, you know how
that ends? Of course.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, keeps
going. Yeah, that guy gets
thrown and probably on his ass.
And
Adam Curry: the worst part is
you hear people applauding for
Hakeem Jeffries to continue so
brave to continue with this
heckler. So brave. So we have
people who realize what's going
on, but they've been gaslighted
and thinking we're all gonna
fry. And in fact, yeah, well,
that actually makes it more
interesting. A lot of people
think that. So here, here's the
salvation. They are actually
putting it together. This is the
Ukraine's prosecutor. He's the
acting something or other. This
is from Deutsche Avella. And
that'll be the last one we play.
This is about the I have a more
clear, I don't know, the last
one I'll play. This is on the
war ending. I'm just saying this
is where the war ends. And it
ends with this new this new at
court, this new entity, and the
crime, the crime is the act of
aggression center
Unknown: to investigate crimes
of aggression against Ukraine by
Russia was is to be set up soon
in The Hague in the Netherlands.
You mentioned earlier, the
special tribunal that you want
to set up to try Russia for the
crime of aggression. The ICC has
no jurisdiction about this
crime. We know many Western
countries are rather reluctant.
Do you think that this idea of a
special tribunal is gaining
traction? And is it for you
because you want to see Vladimir
Putin sit in front of a court?
First of all, I would like to
mention that for any Ukrainian,
it doesn't matter in front of
which court will see it whatever
Putin, whether it will be the
International Criminal Court in
The Hague, or whether it will be
special Tribunal for the crime
of arrest, you know, which I
believe would be set up and
would be organized by the
countries who who know that act
of aggression was committed, who
know that there is a gap in
international law
Adam Curry: gap in international
law, which,
Unknown: which does not allow by
existing tools to punish the
aggressor for the act of
aggression, and which know that
only establishing of special
court or special tribunal bash
we could make Putin and his
close surrounding liable,
responsible for committing crime
of aggression because if crime
of aggression would not have
been committed, there would be
no 68,000 war crimes committed
then they are after
Adam Curry: you see, it's the
act of aggression that resulted
in the war crime. So it is the
OG first principle violation
Unknown: six months ago, we have
no support, we have just
discussion. Now we have 20
countries who are ready to go
ahead. Now we are in in course
of having the resolution of
General Assembly of United
Nation which is prepared for the
next months in order to to
support the idea of full or
comprehensive accountability of
the of Russian aggressor,
including all war crimes
committed by them, including
register of damage and
compensation, compensation,
taking the money and including
all other elements which not
only punish the aggressor by in
all dimensions, but also should
deter any future aggressor, in
any part of the globe from
committing aggression.
Adam Curry: Then you'll just be
able to say to your parents,
you're committing a crime of
aggression against me mom.
John C Dvorak: Well, that brings
up this interesting little
tidbit says they're gonna do a
war crime stuff. And this came
out from I think, a fairly
neutral Al Jazeera who's doesn't
really have a dog in the
Ukraine, Ukraine war crimes.
Unknown: Human Rights Watch has
accused Russia of carrying out
indiscriminate attacks against
civilians, and Ukrainian forces
of violating laws of war. It's
gathered testimony about alleged
mistreatment and summary
executions of prisoners of war,
as well as the use of banned
weapons. Human Rights Watch says
Ukrainian forces used Euro gun
cluster munition rockets in an
attack on Hasakah in Harkey
region. From May to early
September, Ukrainian forces
repeatedly attacked the city of
vizeum and surrounding areas
while they were under Russian
control with cluster munitions,
Adam Curry: man we got to cut
Algis ear off of our cable
network war crimes by by Ukraine
of course cluster phosphates,
cluster bombs with phosphate
we've all seen the video. Sure.
Now
John C Dvorak: I have two clips
of Biden in Poland.
Adam Curry: I have a couple of
those All right.
John C Dvorak: First of all, I
want this these buoys jacked by
the way
Adam Curry: yeah, they put him
on some extra
John C Dvorak: ease Yellin doses
got hairy legs, he's got that
Yellin thing going on. So he so
he but but the play These
strange songs I have one at the
beginning and one at the end and
I don't know what why don't they
play Hail to the Chief for a
Sousa band March something
American or not hip hop. And I
here's the first part this is
Biden Poland speech jacked one.
And this will be Biden being
introduced to Polish audience
with the with the music.
Unknown: Ladies and gentlemen,
please welcome the 46th
President of the United States
of America, Joe Biden.
Adam Curry: Okay, so stop, I
stopped this is wow. So for some
reason, someone in the Obama
camp thought that it would
translate to do what you can do
with President Obama. You can do
that with President Obama. You
can do that with Joe Biden. No
one No one takes his his musical
chops seriously, and even just
seeing how Trump would do it.
This is crazy. Freedom, freedom.
Oh, yeah, it was so I can just
see the meeting. It was so
impactful when everyone's
singing along freedom, freedom
and has a president. He's gonna
set them free.
John C Dvorak: I guess it's
probably the same song they
played at the end, but they
played it from a different
starting point, but but I have
the medley of course, my famous
Biden medley of his commentary
in his speech, and at the end of
this medley. It will play the
beginning of the second version
of this this Outro Song which I
just thought was ludicrous. But
here we go with Biden Poland
medley
Adam Curry: Yeah, and if anyone
can Shazam that in the troll
room, I'd love to know what it
is. Hello. Hello, Cleveland.
Unknown: The questions we face
for as simple as they were
profound. What do we respond? Or
where do we look the other way?
Would we be strong? Where do we
weak would be you we would we
the all our allies, democracy
was too strong. Instead of an
easy victory he perceived and
predicted food left with burnout
tanks and rushes forces and
delay induced appetites of the
autoCrat cannot be appeased.
They must be opposed. On a fresh
only understand one word. No,
no, no. It's abhorrent. It's
abhorrent, but extraordinarily,
as well as been the response of
the Ukrainian people and the
world. One year after the bombs
began to fall Russian tanks
rolling Ukraine, Ukraine still
independent and free and all
those who didn't do defend
freedom around the world. Thank
you. Thank you. Thank you for
what you're doing.
Adam Curry: Wow, it's like a
real Americana song to anyone.
John C Dvorak: I just found it
to be what are they doing? I
mean, bide managed to get
through the speech without too
many flubs, except, there's only
one word to understand. No, no,
no, that's three words. I hate
to mention it.
Adam Curry: Is this Coldplay?
Eiffel. Oh, that's so wrong.
Really? Hold on a sec. Is that
is that let's see if it's called
play that would trip. Yeah,
there it is. That's it. Yeah.
That's so wrong. Coldplay is
king. Don't you know that?
Unknown: Coldplay?
Adam Curry: No, it's just it's
like it's when it's the gay we
don't listen to Coldplay
anymore. It's good. said Yeah,
not really gay, but it's just
like wrong. It's lame. Lame.
It's lame. It's lame. It's lame.
A Sky Full of Stars. Oh,
brother.
John C Dvorak: I that's what I'm
shaking my head. Watch this. I
don't know this song. But cotton
Adam Curry: ball. I don't
either, but Cold Play. Are you
kidding me?
John C Dvorak: This is this is
your your Coldplay? Women in the
White House. This is the
Adam Curry: the White House
You're right. Exactly. What
woman and I hate to say it that
way. But what woman came up with
Coldplay? That's not a masculine
song of freedom.
John C Dvorak: Jill Biden.
Adam Curry: I think you're
right. goes home.
John C Dvorak: He's gonna go
he's gonna skip it off to one of
the Obama aides that would just
don't
Adam Curry: know. This is
totally a Joe Biden. i What's
the guy's name from Coldplay?
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Yeah. Somebody the chairwoman
Oh, she'll bite who wore that
crazy outrageous.
Adam Curry: Christmas. I love
Chris. Chris Martin. I want
let's play his song. Maybe we
can get a meet and greet.
John C Dvorak: Yep, challenge.
Totally. Jill Biden.
Adam Curry: Yep. fan girl.
fangirling. Over Coldplay told
you okay. I mean that in a
certain way.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we know who
we are plenty of gay listeners.
Yeah. They invest. They know
what we're talking about. I
Adam Curry: do. The first ones.
I got Chris Martin. Yeah, pretty
good. Yeah, man. Oh, man. That
is? I mean, that's. That's bad.
You don't want to be represented
by Coldplay?
John C Dvorak: Well, I didn't
see any commentary in the media
about any of it.
Adam Curry: Now. I have a couple
other Biden clips because David
Muir did an interview with him.
You have any? They're short, if
you have any desire to hear some
China? No, that's too long.
That's not short. She spy
balloon?
John C Dvorak: Is there any way
this? Is there any or he says
look.
Adam Curry: Oh, and let me just
grab any clip that
Unknown: Vladimir Putin told the
Russian people this week that
China's President Xi is coming
to Russia, likely as early as
this spring. I know the State
Department and the Pentagon now
have both warned China not to
offer lethal military assistance
to Russia in this war with
Ukraine saying the US is
concerned that China is
considering providing lethal
support to Russia. Would that
cross a line for you? Book?
John C Dvorak: A needle drop.
Unknown: I had a very frank
conversation with President Xi,
this past summer on this issue.
And I pointed out to him my
conversation went like this. I
said, Mr. President, this is not
a threat. It's just an assertion
a statement. What I think the
reality is, you saw what
happened when the rest of the
world Europe, in particular, saw
the brutality of what Putin was
doing in Ukraine, Ukraine, us
from Russia. And I said without
any government product 600
American corporations left, left
Russia and McDonald's to Exxon.
Across the board, not really.
And I said if you are engaged in
the same kind of brutality by
supporting the brutality is
going on. I said you may face
the same consequence. I don't
anticipate. We haven't seen it
yet. But I don't anticipate a
major initiative on the part of
China providing weaponry to to
to Russia.
John C Dvorak: What does he
mention in the in this whole
interview that China is trying
to be a peace broker?
Adam Curry: No, of course not.
No, no, no, no, no, I can't take
something out. We can't have
that. No, that was actually I,
by
John C Dvorak: the way, I'm
starting to decode Biden's
tells, okay, he has, because he
did it when he's really. When he
first got to Poland. He was
being greeted at this big round
table. And I have some clips. I
don't have money for today, but
I have them. And he's telling
these stupid stories about his
dad and dignity and all the rest
of it. And he has two things he
does. He says this is a true
story. This is God's honest
truth. Yeah. lie. Lie. Oh, that
is
Adam Curry: true. Oh, that it's
that it's a true story. the
God's honest truth
John C Dvorak: or because that
contrast? was no joke. I'm not
kidding. No joke, right? No
joke. I'm not kidding. No joke,
because he'll say something
that's not even remotely funny.
That's a blatant lie. Yeah. And
then he'll throw in no joke.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Right. But when he
when he tells those stories
about his dad as a dad in a
desert Joey sweetheart, I know.
I'd never believe that. Did his
dad's a joey sweethearts and
him? I don't believe it. I don't
know. Doesn't really matter. The
guy's toast. It's, I'm astounded
at how good he's doing. He's
doing quite well, actually.
John C Dvorak: Well, when you
hear him in at this big round
table thing is and no joke. He's
just just a mess. And then they
get him in front of his audience
and they were they've jacked and
would like to know what it is.
But they got him jacked on some
speed balls. And he's screaming
he's talks louder.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I guess pretty
passionate. That's what we call
that a diplomatic speak.
John C Dvorak: And he's got the
grouchy his look on his face and
his Polish speech. He's got to
look at that guy. Always a
puppeteer. ventriloquist. His
wife
Adam Curry: is bringing Chris
Martin in on the soundtrack. Of
course, he's grumpy.
John C Dvorak: This downturn,
Molly's just grumpy looking, I
mean, he's really grumpy
looking. And he's yelling, he's
grumpy and yelling.
Adam Curry: So So from foreign
policy to domestic policy. Let's
talk about East Palestine, shall
we?
Unknown: I want to ask you about
a couple of issues here at home.
It's been three weeks now since
the toxic train derailment in
East Palestine, Ohio, that I
like
Adam Curry: this alliteration.
Everyone's using the toxic train
derailment. I kind of liked
that. I liked that they've
chosen that
Unknown: now since the toxic
train derailment in East
palestino. Ohio. As you know,
the mayor says he saw you in
Ukraine. And he says it tells
you he doesn't care about us.
They're asking Is the President
coming to Ohio? Do you have any
plan to travel to Ohio? And have
you talked with the mayor yet?
Adam Curry: Now? This one should
be a pretty simple one. Yeah, of
course, I'm gonna come course we
just have to work out the
logistics. And the mayor. Yeah,
of course. I've talked to the
mayor.
Unknown: Let's put this in
perspective. Within two hours of
that derailment, the EPA was in
there within two hours to how
every major agency in the United
States government that had
anything to do with rail and or
cleanup, was there and is there
no, in addition to that I've
spoken at length to the
Congress, persons, governors,
the senators and governors
states of Pennsylvania and, and
in Ohio, Ohio, Ohio. Yes. And
I've made it clear to them
anything they need is available,
we'll make it available to
whatever happens is the
responsibility of the railroad
company who's made by the way
10s of billions of dollars in
profits 1000s of billions of
dollars of profits.
Adam Curry: What an ass. By the
way, 10s it just let's shift
that away from us. 10s of
billions of dollars in profits,
those horrible railroad people
who are responsible.
Unknown: So do you plan to
travel there? And have you
talked with the mayor?
I can't recall that. I don't
think I've talked to them. Or
I've talked to everyone else.
Multiple times. Yeah. Talked
about the senators, both both
governors I've talked to talk
to, and we made it clear that
everything is available.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Just talk to
anybody. Yeah. Not a nobody. Not
a good look. Not a good luck.
Unknown: Shoo, shoo, shoo, shoo,
shoo.
John C Dvorak: You know what I
think? If we had honest
government, you'd have the guy.
Say, I've, I'm remiss for not
contacting these people. I'm
very familiar with what happened
there. But to be honest about
it. I'm very familiar with the
potential damaging effects of
even breathing vinyl chloride,
it causes an irreparable and
curable liver cancer that will
kill you in five days. And I
have no plans of going anywhere
near that place.
Adam Curry: Yes, this is why
you're a podcaster. This is
you're not gonna presidential
adviser on his answers.
John C Dvorak: No, that's what
I'd say. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I hear you. It was
interesting to see a Wall Street
Journal now. Just to wrap up
China. Now saying, Yep, looks
like it was a lab leak. That's
where they're at. Did you Did
you see what Scott Adams did?
John C Dvorak: Ah, well, I
believe you brought it up. Yes.
I'm very familiar with what
Scott Adams did.
Adam Curry: I want to give him
props. He pulled a Kanye. I kind
of appreciate that. I kind of
appreciate it. And he literally
threw Dilbert under the bus for
him to make yourself under the
bus then himself. Well, he is
Dilbert. threw himself under the
bus has no qualms about being
canceled.
John C Dvorak: Calls. No.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, I fear
for him because once he finds
out that it's not that fun when
YouTube kicks you off, because
then you really you're nobody,
you know, you can't be Scott
Adams just on rumble.
John C Dvorak: He can't be.
Can't be anybody on row.
Exactly.
Adam Curry: You can't be Scott
Adams just just on locals. And
and by his own admission, he
loves attention. But I thought
that was
John C Dvorak: funny. Wait,
before you continue. I want to
hear this. But he I think
believes that locals is really
the future.
Adam Curry: Yeah, so I think he
has an investment in it as well.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And so I
think what you're saying is not
it's not fathomable bowl to him,
know that you can get kicked off
YouTube. I don't think he
understands it.
Adam Curry: Well. of it. He's
making the same mistake Kanye
made Kanye thought that Oh, no,
I'll just I'll buy. What was it?
The other social media network?
The canvas Oh,
John C Dvorak: Oh yes, we forgot
already. We
Adam Curry: don't even know what
it's called anymore. The one
that was taken down, come on
trolls Give it to me. So it's
this parlor? No. Oh, yeah, I'll
just buy parlor. Oh, no, just be
on locals. It's the future. No,
you won't parlay. Now what he
did purposefully. And I think he
pushed it very, very, very if
not over the edge. You know, it
was to me immediately. I'm like,
oh, you know, here's the most
interesting part of this is this
clip that was going around of
him saying, Oh, if you're a
white person, you should walk
away from black people. Without
the context of the whole Clippy
set it up that way. What was
most interesting is people
saying this has to be a deep
fake. That was that was the
telling moment to me. Wow.
People won't even believe
something they can see and hear.
And, you know, Scott Adams is
quite unique in his speech
pattern. There are a lot of
people who thought it was a deep
fake and not true.
John C Dvorak: And I missed that
doll.
Adam Curry: But the bottom line
is he said, No, we're we're
effectively committing racism
against white people. That's
pretty much the bottom line of
what he was saying. He's He's
waffling around it a bit. But he
says no one disagrees with me
on, on what on the facts of what
I was saying. And he did a, he
says the only interview he'll do
was with Hotep Hotep. Jesus when
I watched the whole thing, and
it was really good that he said,
I did this exactly, for this
reason, and I was gonna get rid
of Dilbert. Anyway, he's written
out. He probably has as much
money as Kanye, probably up
there in the $400 million range.
And he's just so he this is what
he this is the postie. He may or
may not die on I don't think
it's over for him. Honestly, I
don't think I think he has a
there's a possibility that it
won't happen that way. Which
would really show white
supremacy. Because he did the
same thing as Kanye. But Kanye
is gone. And Scott Adams may
just make it out. We'll see. But
anyway, props. I gotta say, I'm
not a huge fan, because he's
full of shit. I don't like how
he does stuff. In my personal
opinion, it just I don't like
the messing with your audience
trying to, you know, play
slippery Dickey on everything.
Well, here's what I said. Here's
what I meant. But I got respect
for this.
John C Dvorak: It was definitely
a moment that it'll be
interesting to follow. Yeah.
Yeah, for sure. But the white or
black, it's a third rail.
Adam Curry: Oh, he totally,
totally touch the third rail.
But anyone who does that you get
my respect, just for doing it.
But don't think that it's going
to be fun.
John C Dvorak: That's for sure.
Adam Curry: It'd be fun. Did you
catch the National Day of hate?
Which I didn't get the memo?
John C Dvorak: Oh, that was a
hoax
Adam Curry: was this hoax?
Because here's how the news
reported I was a hoax. Really?
Yeah. Well, how do you know it's
a hoax?
John C Dvorak: Well, I just
looked at the aftermath and
everyone who do started getting
associated with it. So they got
nothing to do with it. It was
just a slam did Republicans.
Adam Curry: Well, here's what we
got results. We'll do New
Hampshire first.
Unknown: Well, this weekend, the
New Hampshire Department of
Safety is urging people in the
Granite State to be vigilant
following online messaging from
extremist groups. They say those
groups referenced today is being
quote, National Day of hate
through the department. Though
the department did not find any
credible threats or scheduled
events. They advise people to be
more aware of this weekend.
Anyone who witnesses suspicious
activity should immediately call
Adam Curry: 911. So that's just
little old New Hampshire. You
know, just like that, just oh,
well, you know, there's some
threats out there. That's what's
going on in New York. Nah, they
took it to where it needed to
go.
Unknown: Police departments in
our area are ramping up patrols
this weekend, most specifically
at synagogues on the Sabbath
response to anti semitic groups
calling for a nationwide day of
hate and protests targeting
Jewish communities as far as Jen
Adam Curry: Max. Well, how come
they didn't? We didn't get that
message in New Hampshire. Laurie
from Bloomfield
Unknown: here at Temple Nair to
meet in Bloomfield Shabbat
services tonight, and tomorrow
morning, we'll go on as planned.
A neo Nazi group calling for a
day of hate Saturday won't deter
Rabbi Mark caps for noting the
one year anniversary of the
Russian invasion of Ukraine.
The focus is going to stay on
Ukraine tonight. Because, of
course, people need our
attention, and we shouldn't let
terrorism take that away
Adam Curry: and turn it into a
plus for Ukraine. Well done,
Rabbi.
John C Dvorak: We didn't even
get any of these stories out
here. We already talked about
snow.
Adam Curry: It's just as bad as
hate. It's true.
John C Dvorak: There was a
anniversary. I guess it was the
Same story that should have been
talked about. So the National
Day of hate is the Malcolm X
reopening of the
Adam Curry: Oh of the murder
investigation. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: Here's a couple
of clips. Malcolm X reopened
Unknown: this week marked the
anniversary of the assassination
of Malcolm X since that day 58
years ago, there have been many
difficult and painful questions
about who may have been involved
in his murder and what led to
it. This week, Malcolm X's
family took new action,
announcing their intent to sue
several federal and local
government agencies for
allegedly concealing evidence
about what happened. We want
justice served for alpha,
Malcolm X, his daughter, Ellie
jasa Shibas, still searching for
answers decades after his
assassination. At a press
conference this week Shibas
surrounded by family and civil
rights attorney Ben Crump
announced plans to file a $100
million wrongful death lawsuit
against the NYPD, the CIA, FBI
and other government agencies.
They allege a conspiracy in
connection with Malcolm X's
murder, and a subsequent cover
up of evidence on February
21 1965, Malcolm X was killed in
a hail of bullets, just as he
was about to give a speech in
the Audubon Ballroom in Harlem
as his pregnant wife and
children ducked for safety. He
was 39 years old.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's a
rather interesting timing to do
this now.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and it will
place part two and I have some
thoughts.
Unknown: Three men were arrested
and convicted of the crime in
November 2021. After decades of
doubts surrounding the case, and
following the release of the
Netflix documentary Who Killed
Malcolm X, the Manhattan
district attorney reopened the
case. Two men who were convicted
of murdering Malcolm X in 1966.
were exonerated after serving
decades in prison. And the
district attorney admitted that
the FBI and NYPD at the time
withheld evidence,
the New York Police Department,
the FBI, the district attorney
of New York, had factual
evidence, exculpatory evidence
that they fraudulently concealed
from the men who were wrongfully
convicted.
Yeah, yeah,
John C Dvorak: this is
interesting, because this was
after the CIA allegedly killed
JFK in a coup d'etat. In 1963,
they went on a killing spree.
And I sent you a thing for the
show notes, which was the list
of the all the people that
mysteriously died after the
Kennedy assassination. Great
Adam Curry: list. In fact, if
you print it out, there will be
floor to ceiling if you did a
normal font type. It would be
it's long killed a lot of people
vape.
John C Dvorak: And the thing
about it is and then they went
on to kill Martin Luther King
JFK, and in a few people in
between Hamza, but they were
killing left and right. But it
was interesting, a lot of their
own people got caught up and
mysteriously died themselves,
including Wolsey have you as
always considered counting?
Adam Curry: Did you count all
the names on this? No, I
John C Dvorak: was gonna count
and I saw there's another list
as the secondary list. But what
I
Adam Curry: like most about this
is the cause of death, fall at
home, shooting accidents,
shooting acts hunting accident,
John C Dvorak: and a lot of
people shot in the head. And I
want to ask you or anybody else
out there, how many people do
you personally know? Who were
shot in the head and live? I
don't know anybody who was that?
I know, personally, who was shot
in the head, and I'm pretty old.
You're not as old as me, but
you've been around long enough.
Adam Curry: I do not know of a
single person who was shot in
the head.
John C Dvorak: I don't know if
there's two of us combined over
100 years of experience. We
don't know. Not a single person.
But if you look at this list,
yes. A lot of head shot and a
head shot in the head. It's
unbelievable. I like the just
I'd like
Adam Curry: to died well while
jogging that I'm gonna
John C Dvorak: I want us to
pricker
Unknown: Yeah. While jogging,
John C Dvorak: so they so they
were on a on a murder spree to
clean things up, and they did
and it
Adam Curry: almost not worth
it's almost not worth it. The
amount of people they had to
kill for this to keep it quiet.
You know, they didn't keep
recording. But you know what
this tells me this tells me that
considering that this came from
a Netflix special, which of
course always comes from a
podcast, we need to start a true
crime. This is our exit
strategy. True Crime podcast who
killed Hillary will be in the
future in the future of who
killed Hillary and we'll build
this whole thing. of how she was
killed.
John C Dvorak: Gonna be very
dramatic when she dies at 93
which is what it looks like
she's gonna happen.
Adam Curry: It doesn't matter we
can put people in that frame of
mind it will be and then we can
sell the Netflix rights when
when she's gone
John C Dvorak: to Brunetti
Adam Curry: says blockbuster
written all over it and we can
get big parts be the dynamite
John C Dvorak: so so that kill
this is worth people looking at
because that's not the Clinton
kill this are the no no. This is
the real deal kill list and it
killed a lot of famous people,
including a lot of their own
agents.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's not
good. I mean, I mean, yeah,
there really was an up until,
like, 96 even
John C Dvorak: know when you're
the 70s
Adam Curry: None No. October 96.
Lawrence Brantley who sold Jack
Ruby the gun that killed Oswald.
John C Dvorak: No, it goes good.
There's another secondary list
that follows it.
Adam Curry: Well, that's what
I'm talking about. What am I
missing here?
John C Dvorak: Oh, no, there's
there's dead on there that are
after 9996 or 99. I'm sorry. I
was thinking you said 690.
Certainly. Let's Yeah, it
continued for a while. Loose
Ends lots of loose. Why take a
chance.
Adam Curry: Now, to be fair,
there's natural causes on this
too. Yes, but not that many.
Well, they didn't kill Rose
Kennedy, do you think? No, no.
No, she was old.
John C Dvorak: There was a there
are a lot like that too. I
agree. And there's even like one
or two that shouldn't even be
Adam Curry: chatty doesn't
matter. We're gonna put a lot of
people on our list for Hillary
Clinton to just a lot of them
just and we'll just throw like
some podcasters on there. Oh,
yeah. You know, like Alex Jones
No, no, he won't be dead. We
need we need some some dead guys
John C Dvorak: know you can say
anything you want about the
dead. That's you know, a lot of
people don't know about libel
law.
Adam Curry: Oh, if you're dead
then you can label them Yeah.
Oh, really? Yeah, well, but how
about defamation of character
you can't
John C Dvorak: a problem it
here's the only problem you can
run into it I believe in a legal
sense of whether you win Rush
Limbaugh Rush Limbaugh he'll be
a suspect you could probably say
rush limbaugh was you could say
anything you want about it. But
if there's an estate of vol
involved at that sells merch
that that has the guy's an image
or something like that merch and
you hurt their business, then
you can get in trouble you then
you can get in trouble. But if
there's no merch involved,
you're good to
Adam Curry: go. I wonder if who
has the rights? And if they said
do they sell? I mean, I see lots
of Malcolm X merch.
John C Dvorak: I think that's
all public domain. Oh, maybe the
family has the race to the I
would think
Adam Curry: you would think
another tip here. Another tip
from your no agenda show. You
can slander dead people. I like
it. I like it. We can have a
whole whole I've just invented a
whole nother podcast, shaming
slandering the dead during the
dead.
John C Dvorak: Deadwood I think
a lot of people would listen
Adam Curry: to that for sure.
slandering the dead, alright,
you've got all this January 6
stuff. I'm dying to hear it
because just so people
understand when John and I do
the show twice a week. We don't
have well we have 1000s of
producers. But we don't have
line producers and people giving
us scripts and stuff. Now we do
our own work we do our own
clips. Of course. Sometimes we
receive clips from people we
have clip custodian be the first
to say and but we never listen
to each other's clips. I don't
even know what they are thrown
into a binder in alphabetical
order. Sometimes the
misspellings even hard to find
what what clip it is but when I
see Jan six footage PBS and I
see a series you have my
attention.
John C Dvorak: So everybody on
the left is hopping arms up in
arms about the fact that Tucker
Carlson has got the first shot
at the 42,000 hours of January 6
footage. Yeah. Yes. And PBS is
no exception. They're very left
nowadays a much more so than
ever before. And they have this
little jarred dance the Lisa de
jour dance girl to do this, this
kind of rundown and she's just
lopsided when it comes to being
a lefty. Her face is lopsided.
Have you ever noticed that they
have. She does such a good job
on this on the Friday show that
they gave her the Saturday show
for a day to get oh So let's
listen to the outrage January
six foot is just the intro.
Unknown: Some Republicans are
once again re litigating what
happened at the US Capitol on
January 6, relating to House
Speaker Kevin McCarthy sharing
key video footage of the Capitol
attack with a Star Fox
personality. Lisa deja Dan
brings us up to speed about how
it happened. And what Tucker
Carlson hopes to find in the
footage.
Adam Curry: It makes so much
sense now, that out of the
Dominion discovery from the
dominion lawsuit, which quite
plainly also stated that their
own employees of demand thought
their software was crap, the
machines were hackable results
could easily be changed.
Instead, what came out of that
was this long narrative that was
just hammered by competing news
networks, talking about how the
fox people, they didn't ah,
they, they didn't believe
anything, what Trump was saying.
And even Tucker Carlson like,
oh, there was they were they
were publicly they were all
Ford, but privately they
weren't. And so now somehow,
there's a lie. We of course,
it's a lie. But now that they're
turning this around, and making
it look like Tucker Carlson is
going to even though he doesn't
believe it, he's going to make a
case for Trump. Is that the Is
that what that?
John C Dvorak: That that angles
in there? She does bring up the
insincerity. hoax around all
these guys in this report of
hers, but you can tell it's very
slanted and shamefully so I'd
say but here we go. Let's go
with this. Listen to this to
January 6 footage to
Unknown: four months he asked
for access.
You can't know whether the
capitals surveillance cameras,
pan tilt or zoom.
And now Tucker Carlson has it.
This week Republican Speaker
Kevin McCarthy granted the Fox
News host access to 44,000 hours
of security footage from Capitol
grounds on January 6, Carlson
controls a primetime hour on the
most watched cable network
on the basis of a holy created
myth about what happened that
day
and has been a megaphone for
baseless conspiracy theories
that deflect blame, including
the idea that rioters on January
6, were actually victims of a
government false flag plot. He
sees surveillance footage as
possible evidence, Carlson's
words over the last two years
reveal the narrative he wants.
Ray Epps was standing in exactly
the same place that a lot of
people who went to jail were
standing, but he wasn't charged.
His name was taken off the FBI
as most wanted list. Why is that
but evidence shows that wraps an
Arizona man who was at the
Capitol was telling protesters
to calm down.
Adam Curry: Watch that's a lie.
total lie. Yeah, he was telling
the people who are calling him a
Fed he was like calm down, and
they're going fed, fed fed. Wow.
John C Dvorak: Well, he was
telling people let's go charge
that's charged the building he
was urging everyone to go bust
in. So So we start off this
report with a wait.
Adam Curry: Anybody Hold on one.
Did any new information come to
light? Is there something that
she had in her report that show
no it showed this then that's
baseless
John C Dvorak: is everything is
baseless in her report, but my
favorite thing is of course that
what was she said baseless
conspiracy theory. Yeah. Does
that mean all the other
conspiracy theories aren't
baseless, or was she talking
about this? This kind of loaded
language really bothers me by
the way, as well, just
Adam Curry: because you believe
in the institution that is the
PBS I mean, you clearly believe
in this
John C Dvorak: being fair was
once the nation's treasurer. I
thought that was NPR. Oh, yeah.
Okay. Well, same thing.
National. Okay, let's go with
after after hearing the RE EPS
bowl crap. Let's go to clip
three
Unknown: was telling protesters
to calm down and Carlson's
allegation that EPS was working
for the FBI has been debunked.
Overall, there's no evidence of
undercover law enforcement
instigating the riders.
Yeah, I think the public should
see what has happened on day it
in granting Fox News access.
McCarthy keeps a promise to
hardline members in his
conference, negotiations boosted
by Carlson himself. McCarthy
told The New York Times this
week that the tapes belong to
the public and he wants sunshine
on them. But Carlson is not a
neutral arbiter he has condemned
violence but also defended the
motivations behind it.
How for example, did senile
hermit Joe Biden get 15 million
more votes than his former boss,
Rockstar CrowdStrike for Barack
Obama.
Despite raising conspiracies,
recent court filings show
Carlson and other top Fox News
stars didn't believe some of the
pro Trump claims.
Adam Curry: No, there you go.
John C Dvorak: So what was that
clip about when you throw that
gratuitous clip in there about
Biden and Obama is this just
like this is a very poorly put
together package Oh,
Adam Curry: that's that okay.
That is by
John C Dvorak: oh by the way
took a lot of Carlson stuff out
of this when I when I edited it.
Adam Curry: Now the reason
that's in there is to show that
they're all in on the on the
pillow, the big lie the big lie
that the election was stolen the
big lie which of course is
exactly what is insinuating.
Unknown: So yeah, right.
John C Dvorak: On where was
issued, for I think we're off
for Yeah,
Unknown: didn't believe some of
the pro Trump claims in text
messages. Carlson wrote about a
one time Trump advisor Sidney
Powell is lying by the way, I
caught her. It's insane. Carlson
is not the first to access these
tapes. They've already been
reviewed by the House Select
Committee investigating January
6 More last Congress.
Republicans accused the group of
cherry picking those clips on
Fox did not air much of its
hearings.
Adam Curry: Wow, this is subpar,
which is really
John C Dvorak: subpar. It's par.
Adam Curry: All right apart for
them. You're right.
John C Dvorak: So this goes on.
And this a this a long report,
actually. And it ends which I
don't know what to get out of.
And they go back to the news.
And then they bring in Brooks
and K part at the end. And
what's the first thing they've
got to talk about?
Adam Curry: Do I get to guess we
just play it?
John C Dvorak: Well, I think you
know, which is the stupid
January 6 footage. But let's
listen to these. I got two of
these. That's the end of it. And
this is Brooks and K part. I
think they start with k part who
just makes a fool of himself in
my opinion by what he has to
say.
Unknown: Let's pick up where
Lisa left off there. Jonathan.
This idea speaker McCarthy has
handed over these 1000s of hours
of security footage to Tucker
Carlson there are those who
argue just let everyone see
everything and make up their own
minds about it. Is there
validity to that? Sure,
simply because the speaker has
given all of this footage to
Tucker Carlson if you're gonna
give it to him, you should give
it to MSNBC, CNN give it to
everyone give it to PBS give it
to everyone so that they can
look at it. But you know what? I
don't need to see 44,000 hours
worth of footage. I watched our
government being attacked by
supporters of the former
president live on television in
real time over several hours.
Adam Curry: No, okay, well done.
That settles it. We'll take
we'll take your word for it. We
John C Dvorak: saw their riots.
I did to watch my C span it was
people milling around me. Okay.
So then they go to Brooks,
Adam Curry: I think that guy
listens to Coldplay.
John C Dvorak: He absolutely
Adam Curry: yes to Brooks,
John C Dvorak: so now Brooks is
makes it even. This is
unbelievable.
Adam Curry: Is that a que was
Unknown: and so the you want to
pick the adware marovo de tiempo
Carl,
John C Dvorak: the What the Why
that one. You want to you want
to listen to the Edward R.
Murrow have to have our day
which is which he used as an
insult, which no no laughter
laughed.
Adam Curry: Okay, only people
over 60 I'm an exception
understand that joke.
John C Dvorak: And it's besides
that I think it's I think is
beneath anyone is who's now it's
just I think it's a low low shot
or whatever you call it low blow
blow blow blow it's a low blow
here we go. And so do you want
to pay realistic go sorry, he
had
Unknown: wear armor of our day
Tucker Carlson you know, I think
I think in general opening it up
as long as they predict the
procedures of this the capital
security and as long as you
don't release those opening up
widely, giving anything any
public official giving
everything to one news
organization. That's just
bizarre and against the rules of
what we do if one news
organization it should be a dump
off the record, but just doing
it out in front of the day it
just it's not done you give it
to the public
Adam Curry: Oh even slips in a
while off the record. Of course,
you know, I'm getting that okay,
we get off the record all the
time. And that's normal and we
get
John C Dvorak: that little young
glad you caught that little
scores of course what but it was
like, What are you talking
about? exclusives are exclusives
that happens all the time? You
do quid pro quos. Yeah, they're
gonna give you this and you stop
talking about me now they can't
Adam Curry: believe that they
didn't get it. And and they know
that of course with this
footage. You can make it look
like anything you want. You
could make it look like the
cafeteria at Star Wars if you
want
John C Dvorak: Oh yeah, you
could do whatever.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Star
Trek. Almost got in trouble for
that one.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. No, this
cafeteria. Which cafeteria?
Yeah, Catherine. If you're
thinking of that bar that's Star
Wars. That's the one that you
want to refer to Star Trek.
That's not Star Wars Star Wars
is the bar Star Trek is the is
the is the little place where
they have their replicators
Adam Curry: neither of neither
of us may be qualified to
discuss this.
John C Dvorak: I can. I've seen
every one of these stories.
Adam Curry: Okay, it's the one
where they have like the three
boob ladies serving drinks.
Yeah. Star Wars Star Wars that
Star Wars? Yeah, I thought it
was Star Trek. No, no. Star
Trek. Star Trek Deep Space Nine.
Yeah, it's t it next generation.
It's one of those are oh my
gosh, oh, it'll be emails for
the next three weeks. Are No,
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have done
that. Shouldn't be done it? I
know. I know. I know. I know.
John C Dvorak: All right,
anyway, so that back to this.
They make good make a big fuss
trying to obviously make it look
like it's going to be bull crap,
whatever Tucker does. So that'll
be that. All right.
Adam Curry: Well, I have I have
some some global stuff world
stuff beginning we were talking
about Yeltsin. Also notice
Treasury Secretary, Secretary
Yellen. She's been she's been on
a world tour. Going to Africa,
you don't hear much about it.
going all over the world, but
mainly mainly in Africa and
talking about the changes and
talking about climate change. I
really don't understand why she
is doing this. Well, I do. I
think I do understand, but
doesn't really fit in her true
job description, that she's
supposed to be addressing stuff
here at home. But she is on the
promotional trip around the
world, mainly in Africa, telling
people up, we're going to change
how we fund stuff. We're going
to change development. We're
going to change we need the
World Bank. We've how many times
we hear well, the World Bank
needs to change its charter. In
other words, how can we take
more money from rich countries
and put it in our pocket. But
this, this was interesting,
because she's not just not just
talking to countries anymore.
She's talking to at a at a more
micro level.
Unknown: Last fall, I issued an
urgent call ahead of the World
Bank and IMF annual meetings,
the evolution of the
multilateral development bank's
system. My reasoning was simple.
The world has changed. And we
need these vital institutions to
change along
Adam Curry: with it. In other
words, we need more money. The
bank must be bolder
Unknown: and more imaginative
over its operational approach.
Adam Curry: imaginative, what
can I come up with today?
Everyone's so creative.
Unknown: For example, we know
that subnational entities can
sometimes have greater expertise
and willingness to implement
innovative projects. So what if
we made it easier for cities to
gain access to funding for
climate smart urban
infrastructure? Operationally,
we believe it's also important
for the bank to develop new
measures of success, stretches,
clear targets that reflect its
efforts to address both
traditional goals as well as
global challenges. Wenting from
China has become extremely
important in the case of Zambia,
China's debt is something like
14% of Zambia's GDP. It's the
it's the largest single
creditor. And so China really
needs to come to the table and
trying to really China's lack of
willingness to comprehensively
participate, and to move in a
timely way has really been a
roadblock.
Adam Curry: Alright, China,
China, bad China, bad China. And
I expect from China, I must
request that when the when the
main feature is playing you
refrain from cleaning up your
office or throwing balls at
Cannes or whatever you were
doing. I have to ask you to be
quiet in the theater. All right.
But the other thing that she
said was what if we could go and
finance cities, so no longer
countries? No, let's go direct
to the city level, which has
been a problem already in the
United States. There are cities
that have taken money from Dinah
cities, actual US cities. And
how about that coincidence if
the world bank wants to help
fund some cities for climate
change? Well, what could we do?
Oh, hello, Cleveland. What
exactly does that mean? 15
minutes city.
Unknown: Oh, J Cleveland says it
hopes to be the first city in
the US to implement this model.
And the idea is pretty simple.
Everything you need is within 15
minutes of where you live either
on foot or by bike or transit.
It first took off in Paris
instead of centralized
downtown's were
Adam Curry: what took off in
Paris. I'm sorry. When you say
it first took off in Paris. Are
they calling the the Parisian? I
don't do some French system, a
15 minute city now. That's
ghettoized. Lady.
John C Dvorak: Well, the 15
minutes is far as I know first
began in England, yes,
Adam Curry: in Oxford, and
Oxford, but she She's pretending
like it's a big success in
Paris. Maybe she
John C Dvorak: wants to go take
a trip to Paris so she can do it
on the street
Adam Curry: report. Well, well,
then I can't blame her
Unknown: foot by bike or
transit. It first took off in
Paris instead of centralized
downtown's where people work and
separate places where they live.
Why shouldn't everything be
closer? Reduced? Proximity is
greener, it's more sustainable
and it creates more solidarity
between neighbors but you can't
start obviously. So it's
purposing. existing spaces Mayor
Bibb said last night, it will be
about People First not
developers. Well, city planners
today told me they will aim to
find out how residents might
want to see their community
change and make sure that the
city's zoning Restriction
Policies are and their policies
around development align. And
the first step for that is
making a list
like grocery stores, schools,
parks,
but also barber shop
Adam Curry: listen to this.
Okay. I love this. First of all,
I'm so sorry to hear this
Cleveland, you're about to be
destroyed. But now, now you hear
one of these city planners and
you know he has a you know, like
a collarless sweater. No, no
shirt underneath it. He's got
you know, blown out your ear
from you know, big gauge. He's
got a beard. He's
John C Dvorak: got gauged ears.
Yeah, as
Adam Curry: your typical soy
boy, guys running the city who
has some apparent power and his?
Well, here's what we discussed.
And here's what we thought we
would never ever. I mean, what
are the services that people
need? I have seen these people
in Austin, they destroy your
city sign.
Unknown: And the first step for
that is making a list
like grocery stores, schools,
parks, but also other things
like barber shops, cafes, a
general list of amenities and
needs that we think as as city
officials, we know and have
heard from residents that they
want to be able to access but
the goal is for it to be
iterative. We want to eventually
take this model to communities
and have them and tell us what
exactly needs or amenities they
really see as being valuable
that they want access to. And I
Adam Curry: love how he throws
in barber shops. Oh yeah. You
heard something about black
people sign is that what it is?
Oh, you have any barber shops
because black people need barber
shops. This is going to destroy
the city.
Unknown: And while they are
finding some neighborhoods have
great access on paper maybe the
quality is lacking due to busted
sidewalks or lack of bike lanes
or bus Tod holes, and whether
it's squeezable talking about or
food justice some neighborhoods
are just lacking all together
here in Cleveland ultimately in
a 15 minute city not every 15
minute radius looks the same but
it serves people with
opportunities to access the
things they want to get to in
their day to day lives.
Adam Curry: So why not do
John C Dvorak: they mentioned
that it like in the Oxford
experiment? They're going to
find you get and find new money
if you leave your 15 minute
segment
Adam Curry: the red zone is for
white people only. The Blue Zone
is for black people only please
stay in your zone citizen if you
want a barbershop you need to be
in the blue this is racist. It
is xenophobic it is it separates
people it puts them in boxes it
is already completely failed in
Oxford people are up in arms
about it again the arms are up
and and the world would shoot
and the World Bank led by Janet
Yellen now for some reason is
going to support these cities
and and and if you're in one of
them you should stop and oh and
Oh, they got a new guy in to run
the World Bank. Oh, by
John C Dvorak: the way, Mr.
Rolando? I think Nottage I got
to stop because now we got to
back up to that comment about
Paris. That's the reason they're
gonna they're gonna switch it
from Oxford words of flop of an
idea and nobody likes it. Don't
even mention that. Hey, you can
turn Cleveland into Paris.
Adam Curry: Wow that's great
although LIC very slick but
Paris some of these sectors now
in Paris are complete no go
zones you know this you keep
your eye on Paris well so who do
you need to bring in to make
this happen? You need someone
who understands micro-finance
You okay, I have not heard you
with a cough like that in a long
time and I
John C Dvorak: got parched
throat earlier in the show. No.
Okay, something some voice I did
or something. No. And I have
been trying to get rid of it.
I'm now sucking on a lot
Adam Curry: you're acting is
bringing your health down as
some voice you are doing.
John C Dvorak: I need a voice
local lesson so I don't hurt
myself. So
Adam Curry: let's go to this
bloom. Excuse me spreading.
Let's go to this Bloomberg
report. When we meet the new
head of the World Bank hits a
doozy.
Unknown: What do we know about
his credentials for the job? Why
is he the right person for the
job? Do
you think of the White House's
mind? Well, the World Bank's job
is economic development and
poverty reduction and he's spent
a lot of his time what he's not
been running MasterCard or right
now his job is Vice Chairman of
Atlantic general Atlantic on
these kinds of issues. He's
Adam Curry: his name is Ajay
Banga. He is currently running I
think the microfinance finance
section of MasterCard. He is a
World Economic Forum guy. He's
the perfect guy.
Unknown: These kinds of issues.
He's been a co chair of the
Partnership for Central America,
where he worked closely with
Vice President Kamala Harris on
to bring business and
development to Central America
and try to stem some of the
refugees flowing north to the
United States. But He's also
worked very closely with
microfinance. He was in Citi
Group heading their strategy,
microfinance went on a number of
years. So he's familiar with the
whole process of poverty
reduction and economic
development and at the same
time, has a lot of management
experience in his time at
MasterCard, interestingly enough
guy, he went to a school in
Hyderabad in India, that has
produced not just Ajay Banga,
but also Shantanu Narayen of
Adobe and Satya Nadella of
Microsoft. So they've all gone
to the same elementary school
private school in Hyderabad,
India.
Adam Curry: It's a cabal. It's a
cabal, the Indian cabal they're
taken over
John C Dvorak: well he's also
from it typical Indian the
Brahmin comes out of Indian
Institute of Technology
Adam Curry: those and those guys
when it comes to equity, they're
the ones you want right there so
fair to all classes. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: I'd say though
you want touchable so those we
do have a couple of dramas that
listen to our show I'm sure the
correct commentary
Adam Curry: they cracked up over
that no doubt. Yeah, 15 minutes
cities. I love the Paris example
though, that that just blows me
away. That as far as I know.
There's they've never been a 15
minute city. They're just making
it up.
John C Dvorak: And parishes.
Definitely not a 15 minute city.
Yeah. anyone's ever been there
knows that.
Adam Curry: And it's gone. So
down. Let me see. I haven't
actually Googled this out, you
know. So if I look at the 15
Minute city, Wikipedia entry
it says right off the bat right
off the bat here. The 15 minute
city was influenced by cities
such as Paris.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they're
slipping it in check the days go
into the history of that comment
and see when it began.
Adam Curry: Oh, well, is it okay
home is delivered historical
walkability proximity as an
inspiration for the 15 minutes
and advisor to an Hidalgo
Professor Carlos Marino cited
Jane Jacobs model presented in
The Death and Life of Great
American Cities.
John C Dvorak: excellent book.
Adam Curry: So the ongoing plan
John C Dvorak: a fabulous book
it will have nothing to do with
anything they're talking about.
Especially that gauged ear dude.
Adam Curry: Ah, Parisian Mayor
Anne Hidalgo introduced the 15
Minute city concept in her 2020
reelection campaign. So they
just walked they backed it into
it. That's what they did. said
well, you know,
John C Dvorak: luckily used the
term 15 minutes city. While she
introduced the concept doesn't
mean that she coined a phrase
Adam Curry: Let me see parody.
This is I have the Guardian, The
Guardian from February 7 2020.
And it says the Paris Mayor and
he does dal Gu has made phasing
out vehicles and creating a 15
minute city a key pillar of her
offering at the launch of her
reelection campaign. So she was
in
John C Dvorak: 2020 Yep, she
must have joy he got 23 years
what's happened so far as Paris
turned into car free zone
Adam Curry: 2020 It's three
years ago or three years ago I'm
John C Dvorak: sorry. I'm taking
Tony was it was during
Adam Curry: COVID You know, so
she just threw it in there.
Yeah, here it is called the veal
Ducat the the quarter our city
not quite a 15 minute city I
like it though. The quarter our
city
John C Dvorak: well, well, they
you have to use 15 minute they
can't use quarter hour because
then Millennials won't know what
you're talking about.
Adam Curry: With that. I'd like
to thank you for your courage
say in the morning to you the
man who put the C in the
baseless conspiracy theories
ladies and gentlemen, please say
hello to my friend on the other
end Mr. John
John C Dvorak: Good morning to
you Mr. Adam Korean and Maureen
ship, see Bucha graphene near
substitute water games and
nights out there.
Adam Curry: It's the morning to
the trolls and the troll room.
Oh, we got a lot going on today.
Hello there trolls you probably
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Whoo. What do we have? 2265.
Yeah, that's pretty that's about
on par. Right?
John C Dvorak: That's the
average,
Adam Curry: average, your
average trolls, you're just
average nothing special. just
average. Now if you want the
special stuff, then you want to
go to our social network, which
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don't know if we have any we
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Our entire system here has value
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quick email from one of our
producers, who said and this is
John. Hi guys, John here from
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father to hopefully to hopefully
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by the donation section. I had
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why you should listen to the
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million thank you a million in
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John, there you go. He learned
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John C Dvorak: The other guy
kept another guy away from the D
Nutting mill
Unknown: D Nutting mill
Adam Curry: yes well write it
down then de no don't bother.
That's that sounds a little off
off color but value for value
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Lopes that's right you That's
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whatever.
John C Dvorak: Edward II Moreau.
Unknown: I was thinking l fell
pretty
Adam Curry: well, another one
half the audience doesn't
understand. There you go. Well,
we're on we're on a collision
course.
John C Dvorak: And here we go
talking about the old times.
This
Adam Curry: is the idea is if
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choose it right after the show
and it's really important
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having changing art that
particularly for the promotion
of the episode is incredibly
important works really well and
we want to thank fluffed comment
who brought us the artwork for
episode 1532 We titled that
beige in a new kind of gin we're
working on beige in and this was
the one we had already teed it
up because we saw this as we
were doing the previous donation
segment that this was a nice
piece this was the graffiti as I
would say in Texas or in
California graffiti. No agenda
even with a with the show number
which we typically will not even
accept
John C Dvorak: because there's
only one flaw in the piece.
Okay, which is you can't read
the Vortech just says curry
Adam Curry: Raj says Devorah
cuts in purple,
John C Dvorak: purple it's just
hard to read.
Adam Curry: No right no okay. So
if you want to have John on your
side make DeVore I can little
bit bigger than curry well I
John C Dvorak: picked his piece
from the get go because I like
to style a large when is
somebody can pull it off it's
very difficult with that piece
which is you know side of a wall
that is not the easiest thing
for anybody to do and make it
look and it doesn't would that
keep the composition high and
make the thing have a nice
balance it looks good beautiful
piece
Adam Curry: in fact since we had
mentioned it with the show
number in there fluff calm it
did one took it away and and
replaced it with goat or
something and it ruined the
piece we said NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO we want the original piece
that's how that's how subtle it
is really the sometimes the
difference can be ingested take
much in the original composition
we liked it We also liked that
which I think he used for the
newsletter the wave the wave by
made Marriott
John C Dvorak: Yeah. To take off
of a famous Japanese print
called the wave over somewhere
other has to guess of everyone's
used it's been copied re
purposed a million times and I
just never seen this type of
this version of it. It's very
pretty. So I use it for the
newsletter but we I think the
pieces we really liked it we
never picked included Joey from
common lager.
Adam Curry: It was not
appropriate as art but it wasn't
funny bit. Can you turn your
speaker's down just a tad? Yeah,
slap him back. Yeah, it was our
president on his ass as some
stairs of course. Where he
usually winds up. We did like
that one. We also
John C Dvorak: fall up. Did
another follow up? Yeah. On the
plane from
Adam Curry: Poland. Poland.
Yeah, we saw it.
John C Dvorak: Wasn't that
funny?
Adam Curry: No. No, it wasn't a
good one. funny to see. Melvin
Gibbs Steen. With no agenda
artists out of ideas homeless on
the street. That was funny. It
was a couple of days Kenny Ben
also had a bar just out of ideas
with just an easel with question
mark. The out of ideas really
showed that you're you're out of
ideas even for out of ideas.
Which is interesting.
John C Dvorak: Soon another one
I thought that we liked.
Adam Curry: We did think the IO
monk broken out of ideas. I
liked it with the artist with
his head on the desk. Yeah, as
cute kind of like a stockbroker
you know, out of ideas
completely lost like never gonna
happen.
John C Dvorak: Sitting on the
ledge ready to jump might have
been on a ledge. There you go.
That would have been
Adam Curry: closer. I think I
think that was really it. Was
anything else that we
Unknown: no
Adam Curry: no, I think you're
right. We appreciate fluff
comment. And all of the artists
who participated in doing this,
it's it's highly appreciated.
It's very hard to do
John C Dvorak: they have their
own. All the artists should
definitely be an account with no
agenda social where they like to
what kidness and
Adam Curry: Yeah, talk about it
and congratulate each other. I'm
sure there's lots of DMS that
John C Dvorak: didn't do
anything really knew anything
about our activity.
Adam Curry: That would be
roundly every day if we knew
about art. Exactly. That's
right. Thank you, again, to all
of the artists who really do
appreciate it. It's great work
all of it. And you can also see
that in your modern podcast app
now on CarPlay, and Android Auto
with some of them. And now we go
to a special thanks to everyone
who came in above $200. Between
two and 300 is Associate
Executive Producer, get it while
you can because inflation is
going to move that up probably
the end of the quarter. And 300
or above is executive producer
of this episode. And we start
off with Sir Dave deflecto from
Plymouth, Minnesota, with 1040
That is interesting. 1040
haven't donated for a while, but
figure that it's worth at least
$5 a show. So this makes me good
for four years. Oh, lots of
people do this too.
Interestingly. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: by the way, this
is a reference to 1040 tax form.
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Does he say
that?
John C Dvorak: No, that is what
it is.
Adam Curry: That's kind of
interesting. Huh? Okay, once a
shut up slave oh, wait a minute.
Hope your exit plan doesn't kick
in the first kick Oh kick in
first. Before what we're still
here bro. I'm calling out Joe
Rogan Tucker Carlson and Glenn
Beck as douchebags I don't know
why. I don't know if they
listen. Their producers do but I
don't think they Listen sir.
Dave deflecto You won't maybe
John C Dvorak: the producers
will appreciate it. You go Yeah.
Unknown: There you go.
Adam Curry: See, do we have an
OG he wants a Sharpton OG
teleprompter? Which is the
carryover. What's that?
John C Dvorak: I'm just
wondering my my you got more
stuff on here. He will hold
Adam Curry: on Luke do his
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it's actually I have a feeling
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John C Dvorak: might be as Leo
55645 And he says ITM to freedom
sees 55645 donation today throws
me over the top for knighthood
nice please Knight me a Sir
Robert of the freehold and I
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Adam Curry: shiner bidorbuy got
it. You got it
John C Dvorak: at the roundtable
for all the Knights and Dames
who have given me the show out
of their web wallet so far given
me the show out of their wallets
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Hello, Godspeed, gentlemen,
Robert.
Adam Curry: Robert. Thank you.
We'll have you up on the podium
momentarily. Later. Rebecca
comes in from Pinehurst North
Carolina, our favorite executive
producer number 33333 lent
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to mass lady Rebecca Pinehurst.
Thank you Lady Rebecca.
John C Dvorak: Sir David in
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Adam Curry: knots Bella
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Numbers Station is which is the
request for jingles enjoying the
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piercing let's continue to
unravel the media narratives the
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Unknown: tell me about the
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Already.
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Numbers Station sorry when I
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Adam Curry: thank you, John.
Craig. Sir David is in Grapevine
Texas. Switcheroo Oh, okay. This
is credit my wife he says future
Dame Karen okay. And that is
changed. Now. No jingles but the
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many 33 So I need to donate.
Yes, because people noticed this
when they see a lot of 30 threes
they often go oh time. I was
knighted during the 1500 drive
but was never deduced. Well,
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Unknown: You spend deed due to
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Adam Curry: for future Dame
Karen my wife of 33 years and
they never had a fight obviously
so she can be formally
acknowledged for the great lady.
She's always been for our boys
and I will see she's a dame for
her upcoming birthday. I need
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this donation brings me to Baron
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donated his greatest podcast in
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Unknown: You've got karma.
Adam Curry: Then we have Richard
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He says he sent a note to notes
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John C Dvorak: Angela Pickering
and sour Lake Texas a lot of
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today. Sour Lake to Joe Biden
likes to go got hairy legs to
2875 I thought treating myself
to an Associate Executive
Producer ship was a pretty good
way to celebrate my birthday
this Tuesday. Hopefully I can
get a chance to hear John say
the name of my town with disdain
funny because I didn't read the
note but I did it anyway you did
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Texas by the
Adam Curry: way for all the kids
say that to your mom you got
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John C Dvorak: oh by the way and
let me finish your note. Oh I'm
sorry. You said that sour Lake
is a sweet place to live so
screw me
Unknown: screw me on this sweet
John C Dvorak: sour get it?
Adam Curry: Yeah, I got it. Sir
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Adam throw these young lovers a
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John C Dvorak: North Carolina
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his real you can tell your
crackpot in buzzkill thank you
for your continued podcast of
excellence. Your promotion of
podcasting 2.0 Your value for
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Make make your podcast a model
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Adam Curry: I'm just looking at
the chat the troll room. I just
saw lady Phoenix hinted phone
boy that he needs to propose to
her. Like a little ring emoji.
I'm just saying. I'm just saying
a lot of love in the air there.
You know, there is love in the
air. I think you know, I think
it's us. I think we promote love
in the air, don't you?
John C Dvorak: I hope so.
Adam Curry: These are our
executive and Associate
Executive producers for episode
1533. A lot of people picked up
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Unknown: Sure, sure. Sure. Sure.
Adam.
John C Dvorak: Sure. Visa or
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It's interesting. Sir Kevin
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Kevin, you're gonna head to toe
to toe that's all about Yeah,
and anonymous in Naperville, in
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Unknown: you've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: So Todd in Ripon
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honor of a smokin hot wife
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Adam Curry: whoo you got to turn
down your speakers more man it's
shuts up a lot.
John C Dvorak: I think is my
mics too loud.
Adam Curry: Oh, is that it?
Okay.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, cuz I made
a mistake and turned it on to
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Adam Curry: We know damn,
Christina. Are you I know her
John C Dvorak: deputy deputy
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McLaughlin is here he is
actually where are you living
but socially?
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, because
it's a boob donation. That's why
I looked Dan Christina pearl.
She says she wants Tata karma
for a mom who was going in for a
lumpectomy on Monday. So that's
why she's doing a special boob
donation to save some boobs.
We'll do it at the end, Dame
Christina,
John C Dvorak: back to Kevin. So
he's coming in with his 808 As
usual for about 140 times in a
row but because he did 123
indices We're gonna give him an
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City, Iowa 7777 Mike Hebner in
Winthrop harbor Illinois 7734.
And he says, oh, it's funny he
says he's claiming partial
credit for the spouse safe
donation. I don't get that
because their spouse safe
donation came from very specific
guy who came up with the math
and that is 7373 and I'm gonna
read these off in order these
are the spouse spouse safe
donations which means is not
that much money. What did your
wife woking,
Adam Curry: your wife and Matt
or your wife more?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, it's
mostly the wives, Michael Rogen
and Evans. He said what Michael
Rogen in Evansville Indiana 7373
Matthew Repco in Leesport,
Pennsylvania, Steve Sebelius in
Moorhead, Minnesota, sir tooth
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California. And believe in
Millennium Knight is the one who
came up with this idea, which he
turns out, he coined the terms,
coined the terms, spouse safe,
and he came up with the donation
of three prime numbers multiply
three times seven times 73, you
get to show number which is
1553. I'm sorry, 1533. And if
you add 1533 together, you get
12. And two plus one is three,
and boom. We have an
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that nine and a half people took
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Adam Curry: That's right, boom.
This means that Obama is the
antichrist. If you add it up
that way, I'm sure that that's
part of
John C Dvorak: it. Absolutely.
Simon Smith continues with thee
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Bloomfield, Michigan. He says,
Dude, I listen to it. Point five
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Adam Curry: Oh, no, you're good
there. That's good. If you're if
you're
John C Dvorak: Daschle Lars and
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Adam Curry: And that's our first
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John C Dvorak: Sir Don Francis
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All right.
Adam Curry: Sir Don Francis
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Berger dinner in Copperas Cove
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please d do Smith.
Unknown: D deuced. Mr. Right.
I'll take
John C Dvorak: take the rest of
them. Go for it. For Scott
Brinkley is our first $50 donor
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they'll do it
Adam Curry: Did you spend deed
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looking for. I have a sword we
have one night one lonely night
so if you have a lonely night
blade,
John C Dvorak: I got the Lonely
Night blade right here. It's
black and white. Oh, it's
pretty. I
Adam Curry: like it. There we
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cutting room floor and they did
a pretty good job.
Unknown: This is Wild Bill of
Ohio coming to you recorded from
Smokehouse brewing in the
morning to you gentlemen
in the morning. This is Mark
reporting from Columbus this
meetup has been a great time
nothing but good vibes. Thank
you for your courage.
This is Mary Rose.
Thanks so much Adam and John for
everything you guys do
this is Sir Larry. I know where
the scooters are in the river.
Hi, this is Deb really enjoy my
time here. People should go to
their local meetup in the
morning and this was Bob
in the morning. Mag CC in the
morning this Josh and Adam and
John Matt had to go to take
smoke he says the polar bears
are doing fine. Thank you
gentlemen.
Adam Curry: All right now
passable passable. Now the next
report is a little bit longer
but it was the propaganda Palace
hurricane II and survivor
support group and and they also
send some pictures. And it's
it's circumcised guardian of the
fat point and Dames ZIL their
house is I mean, it's almost
like a no agenda shrine. They
have artwork which has been
professionally printed and
framed. It's everywhere. They
made beautiful snacks. I mean,
it's just incredible. I wish
they would do publish that at no
agenda. meetups.com is really
they went all out and a lot of
people showed up in the
Unknown: morning coming out from
the propaganda palace. This is
the hurricane II and survivors
support group hosted by damsel
in a dress and
circumcised guardian of the fat
point, and I smoke some meats
today.
Hi, this is Lala Lisa from
Sarasota, I'm not a dame, but
I'm not a douchebag. And this is
my first meet up and I'm feeling
Judy.
In the morning Mr. Scott man
formerly of Norristown.
This is Dame Rachel, Sir Edward
Jacobs, Knight of Appalachian
Piedmont John Adam. Thank you.
We appreciate you. Thanks for 15
years. We're looking forward to
15 more.
Austin here courtesy of scat man
certified douchebag. Shout out
my mom
is Mike from Rotunda.
It's a scam.
Dame elemental gypsy of the
manasota key. This is Christine
from brizantha This is Maddie
and I listened to no agenda
mainly on my podcasting 2.0 app
like all day long. This is Kevin
from Fort Myers.
I do say fraudulent fraud.
This is bike formerly of Rotunda
now of Port Charlotte tried to
start up a Bitcoin mining
support group, eg agio
SR Q here and
definitely not a Fed
exact from North Fort Myers
here.
Thank you for bringing so many
beautiful and wonderful people
together.
Citizen waters are no agenda.
The Florida Water Quality crisis
is real. Hi,
it's Valerie. Thank you.
Eric Adler, and I do believe
China is asshole.
Adam Curry: There you go long
way. By the way, John, you might
want to consider a mute button
or something. You're like
unwrapping. I don't know what
you were unwrapping. You know?
John C Dvorak: That was the
lozenge. Those speakers got this
how long sticks to the thing?
Well, it's old and it's hard to
get off and makes a lot of
Adam Curry: racket you're eating
you're just making a lot of
noise. If you are in Derby,
Connecticut, you probably are
just wrapping up the batsman's
beer company meet up the linkage
of the amygdala shrinkage.
However, on this coming
Thursday, you can be marching
into the golden Gulag get
together at 630 at Lincoln's
Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado,
or the Shouguang man show on gum
bridge meet up is probably
wrong. Bacchus restaurant
brewery and billiards in New
Paltz, New York. Those are the
ones that are scheduled. I'm
just looking at the list here we
have through March and April
vomiting in the Netherlands
we've got C one I'm looking for
any other foreign countries
Osaka, Osaka, Japan. I mean,
it's all over. These meetups are
phenomenal. They are something
you have to witness I guarantee
you go to one you want to go
back these are connections that
people make and especially when
you see like the the propaganda
Palace, these people you would
never expect them to be together
in a group we look we're
different from all different
walks of life, but we have some
community in common and you
should go and witness that for
yourself because connection like
that is always protection. No
agenda meetups.com If you can't
find one near you start one it's
easy always a party hang out
with the next day. You will be
triggered you will be buddy
feels the same. So you can be
okay with that throat. I mean I
don't like how that cough
sounds.
John C Dvorak: You mean that
that was me hitting a drum? Yes.
Adam Curry: I just don't like
the cough. I don't even like to
cough either. Okay, don't don't
like it. I only have one ISO and
I don't feel good about it. I'll
play it don't idiot. You're a
genius. That's all I've got.
That's all I've
John C Dvorak: got. I have one
ISO.
Adam Curry: Okay, it's this one.
Unknown: Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you for what you're doing.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think that
uh, when we can do that.
John C Dvorak: That's number two
for me.
Adam Curry: So we're keeping
track now are we?
John C Dvorak: I'm keeping track
of all the ones that Biden I can
slip into. Okay. Ah, let's
Adam Curry: see. What do we have
to wrap this up?
John C Dvorak: No, I have a
bunch of Bernie clips from the
last show that I wanted to play
Bernie Bernie. Yeah, Bernie is a
douchebag. You
Adam Curry: mean Bernie Bernie
Sanders?
Unknown: Yeah. Why?
Adam Curry: Just just because
it's an idiot saying idiotic
stuff. I mean, I'll play it.
Okay,
John C Dvorak: what do you have?
Look up Bernie's on the media?
Yep, got it. Now the one you
have to worry about that you
might not find is Benny the
worm. I left the are out.
Adam Curry: What would you want
me? Which one? Do you want me to
get the Bernie or the Benny?
John C Dvorak: No, I want to
Bernie's first. Ben is the last
one. Okay. All right. So here's
Bernie, on the media, who also
Unknown: talk about new deal for
journalism and rethinking of the
role of public and community
media in the United States.
You're very harsh on on the
media, as we talked about,
including you mentioned this
network. You mentioned
Washington Post, you do
mostly all kinds of nice things
about you know, some
other journalists here, you did
give a shout out to Terra corte
and some other reporter
John C Dvorak: keeping track.
Why names her name? She must
have been irked by that. Okay,
so that says he wants to
subsidize the media like to do
in Canada.
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Now let's
see what this is about. All
right. Yes, of course, that
makes the
John C Dvorak: kind of thing you
got to be aware of. Here he is
on the media. Number two,
Unknown: Tara corte and some
other reporters. But But you say
you take direct aim at the media
for not asking the questions
that you think need to be asked
how do you on this new deal
idea? How can you have the US
government in any way involved
with the media and direct
funding when trust in the
government is so low in this
country and trusted media as low
as
two issues? Two separate issues?
Number one, what I say in the
book is that look, I've done
1000 interviews, like I'm doing
with you right now. And nobody
has ever come up to me not one
reporter, not human, not anybody
else's. Bernie. Why are we
spending twice as much on health
care as any other country and
yet we have 85 million uninsured
or underinsured? How many
programs that CBS NBC ABC had on
why we have a dysfunctional
healthcare system. Does that
have anything to do with who
owns the major networks? Bernie,
what are you going to do about
income and wealth inequality?
Demand? Why are billionaires
paying good, effective tax rate
low with the working class
people? No one asked me those
questions. Okay.
So that tells us the questions
to ask.
I understand that. But there's a
culture in the media don't tell
us people who work for me not to
vote for Donald Trump.
John C Dvorak: Did you hear her
say nobody told us to ask you
that?
Adam Curry: Yes. Of course. I
heard that. Yeah. You mean the
PR person? The campaign person?
The book PR person?
John C Dvorak: Yeah. They all
they always give you a list of
things to ask. In these
interviews. Yeah. Always.
Adam Curry: Yeah. Usually with
the book, it comes in a little
insert suggestions for
questions. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: So I thought that
was funny. But then we get this
one. This was kind of
interesting. Listen to it,
Bernie. Kind of circumventing
this this this comment that he
makes this is Bernie and a robot
tax and gates.
Unknown: of logic, multinational
corporations are saying, Look,
we can do this, we can get rid
of all these people over here,
we can make even more money. So
we're talking about a
transformational moment,
throughout the world in the
United States. I want working
people to be involved. And if we
come up with a technology, I'm
not anti technology, if there is
a technology that can do
increase worker productivity,
who benefits from that? Just the
guy who owns the company? What
does the work of benefit, so we
can reduce the workweek. Is that
a bad thing? It's a good thing.
I don't want to set the people
on top simply be the only
beneficiaries of this revolution
in technology.
So you agree with Bill Gates and
taxing robots? That's one way to
do it. Yeah, absolutely. He's a
billionaire. You do like
he's bought the bill in a number
of guys.
But okay.
John C Dvorak: Screws is
billionaire. You do like Screw
this guy. I've talked to him.
Yeah. Now, here's Bernie the
worm. This is a clip. I just got
the biggest kick out of this.
She actually goes after him. I
think she's irked by the fact
that she wasn't mentioned in the
book and this other woman who
she apparently knows
Adam Curry: she's hurt the hair
or whatever it was mentioned in
the book. Who is
John C Dvorak: who is she? Yeah.
Sorry.
Adam Curry: Who is she that we
did it? Why would she be
mentioned in the book?
John C Dvorak: Because purely
Bernie mentions a bunch of
journalists in the book.
Adam Curry: Now this is
pathetic. It's pathetic. We've
been playing it but Okay, let's
go Bernie in the worm.
Unknown: That I have to ask you.
You're going on tour to promote
this book. It's okay to be angry
about capitalism. And you're
here talking about it.
Understand, we're not the bad
guys you're describing in the
book when it comes to media but
tickets for your tour apparently
are selling for $95 which is
accused of anti competitive
behavior. You know that some of
your Democrats are criticizing
them. Aren't you benefiting
yourself? You're trying to
dismantle
first of all those six gins made
totally by the publisher and the
bookseller. I think it is one
case where in one place here in
Washington politics and prose
and independent bookstore,
charging some tickets, most of
them I think are $40.50. And you
get a book as well. So if you
want to come, you're gonna have
to pay 40 bucks. I'll throw in
the book for free. And we're
doing a number of free events,
but I don't make a nickel out of
these things.
But you're okay doing business
with Ticketmaster?
No, not particularly. But that's
again, I have nothing to do with
that. That is you wrote a book
probably be the same process.
Adam Curry: Why don't you go
back to you have three houses
that's much more effective than
ticket mascot pick to pick up
on?
John C Dvorak: Well, I thought
it was interesting that to see
Bernie give a book talk, he had
to pay 95 bucks. Oh, sure. But
he gets nothing. Are you kidding
me? Who's getting all that
money? That's what you should
ask. Well, if you're not getting
the 95 bucks who's getting the
money? He's gonna say what
you're gonna say the publisher
I've never heard of this. This
is never this is not in the in
any publishing business I've
ever seen where you were the
publishers is whoring out their
authors and taking all the
money. What author is going to
put up with that? Well as
Adam Curry: the one who signed
the dummy contract Hello. That
would be Bernie.
John C Dvorak: I can't see him
signing a dummy key right? He's
an idiot.
Adam Curry: I banned him now
from the show. Well, yes, you've
successfully turned me off from
from him so bad now. This guy is
he's what he has is I mean, he
has zero relevance.
John C Dvorak: He's still has a
lot of influence over Alexandria
Cortez, who you predicted would
be President of the United
States, if I'm not mistaken.
Stay
Adam Curry: tuned for that. 2024
is on deck. I said she would be
a great president for the show.
Not for the country. And you
should be hoping that she
becomes president.
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't see
that in the cards now. Somebody
out there get me the clip where
he predicts you will be
president not for this show.
Come on, you can do it. Israeli
Moon bases.
Adam Curry: Wow. All more
entertaining than those clips.
Okay, well, as you can
John C Dvorak: find Israeli
Moonbase this clip Yeah, maybe.
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John C Dvorak: And from Northern
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raining right now, I'm John C.
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who we who we end to
Unknown: such
and so the saga continues. I've
been hearing a lot about Peppa
Pig lately.
Nothing to do with this is
blatant sexism. Nothing to do
with the rain Genie is coming
back. Nothing to do with like
it's okay to be angry about
capitalism. It's not
Adam Curry: just a bloody good
show. It has a lot of layers to
it.
Unknown: 40 bucks. I'll call in
the book for free. Not a joke.
Now I'm going to burst your
bubble everybody. Nothing to do
with now I'm going to burst your
bubble everybody. What are you
going to do about income and
wealth inequality? Now I'm going
to burst your bubble everybody.
And so the saga continues.
There's always this shows about
you my brothers
Adam Curry: and sisters. We've
got receipts people and we've
pushed to the fringes of
outright lunacy.
John C Dvorak: Now I'm going to
burst your bubble everybody got
nothing to do with what a crock
of shit dad
Unknown: quit store. The show is
full of symbolic elements that
represent the child's mind now
I'm gonna burst your bubble
everybody
just helped me understand.
Nothing to do.
A podcast liar.
John C Dvorak: I'm a liar in
chief. Now I'm gonna burst your
bubble, everybody. We've faced
Unknown: issues from container
shipping to airline
cancellations. And we got
balloons most of all, we got a
community that's been through a
lot. That I think is pretty
frustrated with people trying to
take political advantage of this
situation. I have followed the
norm in the first days of the
crash response of staying out of
the way of the independent NTSB,
the National Transportation
Safety Board. Maybe I got that
timing right. Maybe not. But the
most important thing for me
right now is that that doesn't
wind up allowing people to
change the subject and block
needed rail regulation.
Why are there so many cardiac
people worldwide? What is
causing heart inflammation? We
simply don't know at this time
What discoveries some studies
exposed door three someday we'll
find the connection between farm
we can't jump to conclusions. We
need more information as to why
good cause our failures to rise.
You may find some controversy
surrounds Vioxx. But Pfizer.
crackpots will say the spike
proteins the culprit, but I know
they're wrong wait and see.
We'll find it. The COVID
connection, the media being
farmed.
Adam Curry: MoPhO
Unknown: boruch.org/and
A. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
you for what you're doing.