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March 2nd, 2023 • 3h 4m

1534: The Chit

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John C Dvorak: You guys are working for us. Adam curry
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Jhansi Dvorak. It's
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Adam Curry: Thursday, March 2 2023. District award winning
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combination media assassination episode 1534.
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Unknown: This is no agenda
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Adam Curry: tickling your amygdala and broadcasting live
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from the heart of the Texas hill country here in the region
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number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam ferry
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where I await the
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next episode of Picard. I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: The most emailed comment on the last show was
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without a doubt the you got it all wrong about Star Trek Star
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Wars and Total Recall the woman with three boobs it's amazing
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how much attention our producers paid to that kind of stuff
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John C Dvorak: that they do know they got nothing else to do
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Adam Curry: clearly. Why do anything else it's that's what
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you you got to set curry straight on the three boob lady
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that's important people. Thank you for all your your
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information. We had a massive hailstorm at five this morning
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with coil quarter sized hail quarter size it
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John C Dvorak: should I say this like like the size of a small
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bouncing ball yes
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Adam Curry: yes and we have a metal roof so that woke us
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John C Dvorak: Let me guess You got a woke
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Adam Curry: we got a very woke the dog was even freaked out the
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dog like slept next to my bed which she never does. On my side
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never she never sleeps never even comes into our bedroom.
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She's like who has a huge dog holes or shivering a
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John C Dvorak: lot of dogs don't like these kinds of noises and I
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wonder is like the worst form?
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Adam Curry: Oh no, it was cracking thunder and then and
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then you know some of the hail would hit the patio and then
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bounce against the glass you know it's just this morning when
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I walked Phoebe that we're still clusters of a much smaller now
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like marble size of hail it was just one of those micro bursts
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right right over Fredericksburg,
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John C Dvorak: Texas hail can be it can be damaging to cars, very
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damaging.
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Adam Curry: very damaging. I wanted to mention for those of
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you who found us during COVID and are happy that we we helped
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you stay sane. Stay with us. There's a lot of stuff that
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you're being you're being psychologically manipulated
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over. I think that we can we can keep you on the trough and
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narrow to that trough the trough and narrow what is no What is it
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the path of the straight and straight and narrow? Yeah,
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straight narrow. There you go. Because what Epstein every other
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podcast do this week. We were right. We told you was from the
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lab. We were right.
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Unknown: We were right and no one is
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Adam Curry: seeing the bigger picture.
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John C Dvorak: You mean the bigger picture that we said it
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was from the lab and in 2020?
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Adam Curry: No, the bigger picture being I mean, yeah, we
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could play clip after clip after clip and show that we were right
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within two weeks. But that's not the point. The point is, this is
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a pivot to China. And if you if you just look at what we have,
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we've got a we got spy balloons COVID lab tick tock. Teaming up
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with Russia, fentanyl. It's all about China. This is the pivot
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this in oh and no one is spared in this. CNBC laid it all out.
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Oh well. The
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Unknown: reminder today was directed towards Elon Musk. The
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Tesla founder been retweeting posts promoting the theory that
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Coronavirus originated from a Wuhan lab. Well the issue is
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very sensitive here in China. And so the Communist Party paper
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The Global Times warned on its social media site that he could
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be breaking the pot of China. This is a Chinese saying that's
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similar to biting the hand that feeds you go this morning comes
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Adam Curry: as breaking the pot. I use officials
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John C Dvorak: both pot yes it she bet what she said breaking
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the pot that feeds you know
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Adam Curry: breaking the pot is a Chinese proverb similar to
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biting the hand that
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Unknown: feeds you the pot of China
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Adam Curry: back a little bit breaking breaking the pot. This
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is already paid for the Global
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Unknown: Times warned on its social media site, that he could
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be breaking the pot of China. This is a Chinese saying that's
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similar to biting the hand that feeds you. And this warning
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comes as Chinese officials, both on a high level as well as on a
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lower level of the government are really pulling out all the
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stops to try to attract us investment into China. And the
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directive has come all the way from the top from President Xi
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Jinping who has been saying that there should be greater effort
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to attract more and welcome more foreign capital as well as
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foreign investment on a local level. officials have been
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eagerly trying to reach out to international companies touting
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how they're relaunching several events around the region and
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despite matching delegations prioritizing trade shows in the
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US and Europe, cities, also, including Shanghai, have
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announced that they're going to be having a foreign Talent
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Recruitment drives. They do, though, have a lot of work to
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do. The international business sentiment has been quite shaky
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in the past year, because of the zero COVID protocols. The sour a
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US sorry, the slowing Chinese economy, as well as the
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political climate. American executives, in particular Joe
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are really nervous ahead of that select committee hearing. This
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is a new committee that's focused on China. And nobody
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here wants to be called in
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Adam Curry: new. Nobody wants to be seen as a trader,
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collaborating with China rushes over man brushes out, brushes,
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yesterday's news,
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John C Dvorak: we'll see. But you might concern with this
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latest thing about the Wuhan lab is that Mike Pompeo said it came
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from the Wuhan lab during the Trump administration.
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Adam Curry: I happen to have the clip.
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John C Dvorak: Play that, please.
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Unknown: Secretary Pompeo, so that he has strong evidence
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that it did come from the virology lab, we've been
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reporting this every Sunday, by the way, from early on, you also
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said that you saw evidence, can
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you tell us anything about the intelligence,
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but we have a lot of information. And it's not good.
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But you know, the worst of all, whether it came from the lab or
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came from the batch, okay, it all came from China. And they
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should have stopped it. They could have stopped at that
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source. I call it the source. Right there. They made a
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decision to allow it to escape its borders. I don't know
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if they made the decision, but it got out of control. I think
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more likely it got out of control.
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Senator Kahn said that
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they didn't want the
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Adam Curry: this is an interesting clip as to why I
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chose this one. Because Trump is is almost kind of pushing back
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against Pompeo, ex CIA at this point. And saying, Well, you
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know, whatever it came from China let it happen. Trump isn't
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even blink, pushing it on China as as like a unintentional bio
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leak or anything, which was really much more his position.
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Although manipulated by the media,
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Unknown: Chinese economy to contract 20% and the rest of the
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world to contract 2%. So
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we were beating them very badly before this, we were beating
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them between the tariffs and other things we were doing. And
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we were going up and they were having a very bad year, they
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were having the worst year they've had in 56 years.
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gestures on the street. And they weren't well, and even beyond
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that. And we were really doing well. And that is a theory. But
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here's what I know for sure. They didn't allow this whole
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thing. They didn't allow people to go into China, but they did
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allow them to go out to the world including the United
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States. That's why Europe is a mess. That's why look at look at
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these countries who rushes having a hard time.
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Adam Curry: So quite a different story back then. But why?
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John C Dvorak: Again, let's go back to this that was like the
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news cycle back in the day to over two years ago. And this was
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and then it was I don't know I thought it was I thought it was
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concluded that it was from the lab and then the next thing you
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know this comes out just recently as though it's all
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news. And then you have like you said your podcast was going on
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we told you so. What are you talking about? This is old.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, it's just being read the mind in my mind
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is just being resurrected at this level. Why?
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John C Dvorak: Why resurrect Oh yours? China, China, target
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China,
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Adam Curry: China. Yeah, it's all about China. Now. We've got
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to blame China.
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John C Dvorak: Blaming China for that little water under the
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bridge. It seems to me
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Adam Curry: No, no, it's just it's adding adding to the
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everything. Okay. Are you going to tell me that you don't see
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the pivot to China? Everything Is Everything is moving
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throughout China or China doing this. China's doing that. We
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have a new house panel. Whoa, it's all about China. China is
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no good. There's something going on with China. This is the pivot
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60% of the news is about China. China
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John C Dvorak: says the news is not about China. That's what I'm
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seeing. Most definitely have to news is about Murtaugh
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Adam Curry: now. What are you watching? You put that in the
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newsletter if
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John C Dvorak: you go to Google news.com You'll see their top
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headlines about this trial in South Carolina that nobody cares
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about but they're playing up every which way
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Adam Curry: Well, surely you understand why.
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John C Dvorak: Yes, a distraction but they just
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common. It's a trend stretch
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Adam Curry: to true crime drama. It has been it has been Nancy
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Grace has been pushing this and that and the Netflix special is
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coming out.
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John C Dvorak: Let's head to the next flip. I thought of Netflix
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special was out
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Adam Curry: there promoting it heavily now what was out or not.
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It's all for ratings. It has nothing to do with. And people
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are
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John C Dvorak: just whether it's with a news mostly concentrates
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on getting people to watch TV.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, end to end.
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John C Dvorak: I'm not saying this. I mean, there's they're
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targeting China for sure. But I don't see a quote unquote pivot.
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Adam Curry: No, I do and it's and here it is. It's about this
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this panel. This House panel, and the main thing the pivot is
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this is what is occupying people's minds is tick tock.
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That is that is a continuous hammering of China bad Congress
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enjoys a rare bipartisan moment today when lawmakers come
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together to address China coming together. Oh, no. And be our
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congressional
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Unknown: correspondent Deirdre
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Walsh reports. Wisconsin Republican Mike Gallagher chairs
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a new house committee created to put a spotlight on the threats
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posed by China. He says a recent news story made that job a
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little easier.
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A Chinese spy balloon drifting over the country, and circling
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our nuclear ICBM facilities has a way
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Adam Curry: this is a lie. This thing wasn't circling anything.
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Remember, it was just floating around since when was circling
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around ICBM facilities. That's just a lie. There's like they
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passed over them before now it was circling. Oh, yeah, it
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stopped in a circle
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Unknown: over the country somehow circling our nuclear
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ICBM facilities has a way of bringing the threat close to
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home,
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Illinois Congressman Raja krishnamoorthi. The top Democrat
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on the panel says his constituents already feel the
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impact of China's influence.
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Everyone seems to have their own stories, whether they are a
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small business person or whether they are concerned about the
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crackdown on dissent, or human rights.
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Both lawmakers want to lay out the economic and national
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security threats posed by China for the American people. Well,
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one area they agree on is banning the social media
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platform Tiktok from operating in the US. They're concerned the
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app is taking user's data, and its parent company has ties to
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the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party, Gallagher worries about
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what that means for Americans.
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It can be used to influence the news, what people see and talk
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about and therefore to interfere in our society and our politics
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and our very democracy.
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looming threat from China on America watch your pearls.
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America's economy spurred Congress to act last year,
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passing a bill investing more than $50 billion for US
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manufacturers to boost semiconductor production,
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lawmakers say the use of a surveillance balloon by China
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only reinforces the need for a comprehensive security plan,
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rest of the century will be defined by what happens between
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the United States in China. That's Florida Senator Marco
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Rubio, the top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee,
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this is not just a military challenge. China has fused its
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commercial, military technological applications in
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ways no other nation ever has. So it's a multifaceted
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challenge.
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Part of that challenge is also increased China aggression over
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Taiwan, an island democracy that governs itself, but that China
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claims as its territory,
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we don't want open hostilities to break out in that part of the
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world, which could lead to very severe consequences for the
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region.
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Adam Curry: So we can bicker over whether pivot or not. But
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John C Dvorak: hold on. Sure. So first of all, I have my phone
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ringing. But first of all, you're constantly condemning me
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for the N T D announcers. This was
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Adam Curry: NPR. This was oh my god, that was NPR.
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John C Dvorak: Where did they hire them from NT?
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Adam Curry: Most likely, in fact, NTD is on the line tip for
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you right now pick it up. They want to know why you're not
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playing any more clips. They're totally pissed off about that.
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John C Dvorak: I only play video clips every third show.
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Adam Curry: Do you not have voicemail on this thing? Come on
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what's going on? If it rings one more time? Yeah, I'm starting
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another clip. I'm starting notice a
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Unknown: clip. CBS News has new information on that classified
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Department of Energy report that details the origin of the COVID
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19 virus. The new intelligence points to a possible lab leak in
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Wuhan, China. CBS Catherine herridge has more.
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Adam Curry: They always bring in cameras when in bringing the
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spook girl the spook girl knows that. Oh, mind you. This isn't
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this. This report came from the FBI, not from the CIA who go
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overseas, not from our National Institute of Health. No, it came
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from the intelligence community. So they're now the experts, all
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of a son in this type of stuff is
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John C Dvorak: always to have a little over 20 years. Yep. Thank
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you, by the way is okay, no, no, keep playing. I'm sorry. I'll
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listen to this. Right. I have some comment about this,
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Unknown: when inside the Wuhan Labs is the pandemic unfolded
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three years ago. Now two sources close to the US government probe
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into the origins of COVID-19 Tell CBS News, there is new
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intelligence that points to an accidental lab leak. The source
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of the Energy Department has low confidence in the new reporting
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the law unclear whether that reflects weak data or limited
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intelligence.
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We really do want to know what happened here.
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The White House would not endorse the new finding
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the intelligence community and the rest of the government is
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still looking at this. There's not been a definitive
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conclusions.
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intelligence agencies have not been able to agree on how the
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pandemic that killed more than a million Americans started.
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Several still another
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Adam Curry: lie we have there's no evidence that the pandemic
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itself that the COVID itself killed a million Americans, but
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we'll just take that as fact. Now let you
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Unknown: agree on how the pandemic that killed more than a
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million Americans started. Several still point to the
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possibility of natural transmission through animals.
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The first major outbreak occurred at a Wuhan wildlife and
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seafood market.
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John C Dvorak: Get for some Oh my god.
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Adam Curry: I know for some reason CBS the CIA Broadcasting
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System is pushing back a little bit
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Unknown: the answers from the Chinese government or PRC has
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been impossible. According to State Department spokesperson
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Ned Price
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for more than two years now, the PRC has been lobbying from the
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beginning international investigators and members of the
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global health community from accessing information that they
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need to understand the origins of COVID 90
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with more than 7 million deaths worldwide, the lack of
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transparency has frustrated health experts, why does knowing
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still matter?
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Knowing the origins of COVID really matters because it will
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impact how we prepare for the future Ah, there you go a result
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of the lab leak it may result in tighter safety procedures in the
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lab or more regulations on what kind of research is allowed.
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Whereas if this is a natural occurrence, it does point to the
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need for better among animal populations for example, to see
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what what might be brewing as the next virus there.
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Adam Curry: So notice this is this is the CIA side of the
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house being very hesitant to agree and it makes me think that
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Christopher Ray is just taking advantage He's probably in the
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in the Silicon Valley Cabal. Hey, man, we need to be tracking
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everybody a lot better. So either tick tock gives us their
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data, which is probably no different from Facebook or
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Instagram. But okay. Or, you know, we got to kick them out.
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They said low confidence they report is low confidence.
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Everyone's jumping around like Like he said, yet we got we got
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the smoking gun. This is very weird.
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John C Dvorak: I just find this whole thing to be so deja vu.
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It's just I it's annoying. Yeah, I understand that. And
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meanwhile, of course, no one wants to talk I met the CIA
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specifically wouldn't want to talk about for Dietrich.
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Adam Curry: No, we can't, you know, in my in my mind. This,
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maybe this was just a fluke. And it's all a hoax. You know,
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remember, flu went away during COVID was just gone. So maybe it
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was just a just a Wuhan flu, which is literally what Trump
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called it the Wuhan flu. And okay, bad flu. But maybe it
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wasn't bioengineering at all.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I'm not buying that one. I think it was
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it was a weaponized and it was and it did kill people. It
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didn't kill a million Americans but it was a killer and then
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they added on to the killer vaccine.
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Adam Curry: The response was a killer the response Meanwhile,
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people
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John C Dvorak: so you don't think there was a COVID?
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Adam Curry: I didn't say that. I said it's possible. Well, where
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did flu go? Of course no, I'm Coronavirus.
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John C Dvorak: I agree with you that the numbers were
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exaggerated. A Coronavirus
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Adam Curry: is a flu. I'm just saying I do not so
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John C Dvorak: Coronavirus is is a cold it's not a flu.
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Adam Curry: Okay. All right, fine, whatever. Well, you
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John C Dvorak: know that. Meanwhile, you had Kirby on here
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and now Kirby is going to I thought Kirby we had something
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on the ball. But I have a clip of Kirby being asked a question
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about gain of function. Is it okay to do this sort of
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research? And if you listen to this carefully, is under COVID.
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If you listen to this carefully, I don't think he knows what kind
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of function is. And now I don't think I know that he knows what
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he's talking about about anything
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Unknown: without weighing in one way or the other. On origin of
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the virus, you make clear that there's no consensus. Does the
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President believe though that the reward out ways the risk
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when it comes to gain a bunch of research
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is the reward outweigh the risk when it comes to gain? up you're
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gonna have to say that again.
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President believe that this type of game of functional research
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is proving
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he believes that it's important to help prevent future pandemic
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Which means he understands that there has to be legitimate
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scientific research into the sources of potential sources of
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pandemics so that we understand it so that we can prevent them
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as we prevent them from happening, obviously. But he
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also believes and this is why he wants the whole of government
20:23
effort here to understand it, that that research has to be
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done and must be done in a safe and secure manner as as
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transparent as possible to the rest of the world so that so
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people know what's going on. I think that's a fancy way of
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saying yes.
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Adam Curry: I think he knows exactly what he's talking about.
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He's just couching it the way everyone else is, like, oh,
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yeah, well, it was from a lab. So you know, now we know we have
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to be careful when the next one comes. I think it's all
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gaslighting. Yeah, sure. It was engineered. Okay. Sure. We
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shouldn't even be arguing about it, because that's what everyone
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is doing. Meanwhile, what's next? Oh, I think they'll say
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China's a currency manipulator. You watch. It's all it's all.
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Everything Trump was saying they're now playing deja vu to
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of course it is. Of course it is. And by the way, the reason
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we didn't catch this, the first time around, that this came from
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China, whether it was made or not came from China was because
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Trump is xenophobic,
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Unknown: Trump unleashed this xenophobia, he's he stopped
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allowing Chinese people to come to the country. He then started
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calling it he kept on saying, China, China and doing this
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thing, where I was even concerned, as someone who had
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lost family members, right from Manny to even bring it up. And
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that is really sad. The last guy before bible said anything about
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this, he made it about Asian people. And I'm sure John Stuart
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didn't realize that that's what was happening, because I'm sure
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he didn't know what was going on all over the country, with Asian
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folks getting smacked and hid and people saying stuff to them
22:08
about bringing the disease here. I mean, this was this was what
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was happening. And if you know who had not started it with
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that, had he not made it about that. And he said, Listen, this
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might have come out of a lab, it probably would have been
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listened to a lot different.
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John C Dvorak: She's got her act together.
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Adam Curry: That's so beautiful. Yeah, if we don't If only he had
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said it differently, we would have listened differently. Okay.
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Okay. We'll be. And of course, it was the response. That was
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the problem. It was the lock downs. That was the problem. He
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was all all of this the masks. That was the problem. Now we
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know that it simply was not the killer virus that that it was
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promoted to be. You agree with me there, right?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, the numbers were pretty much the same. It
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was always analyzed as the flu. It had the same numbers as the
23:06
flu in terms of his deadliness. So something
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Adam Curry: interesting is going down in the UK. The lockdown
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files had been published. I don't know if you follow this.
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The Telegraph a respectable newspaper, I would say compared
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to what we might mainly read daily news and the sun. The
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Telegraph published still
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John C Dvorak: still pretty interesting. The Telegraph. It
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says this is a mouthpiece for the Democrats. The Taliban are
23:37
very anti Trump during their era.
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Adam Curry: Do you mean that? You mean the liberals? I mean,
23:41
in this is UK, right.
23:42
John C Dvorak: Yeah. The Telegraph. When I say Democrats,
23:46
I'm referring to Americans.
23:47
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Well, no, this is a purely UK based thing.
23:51
No, I
23:51
John C Dvorak: understand that I understand completely. But when
23:54
it came to talking about American politics, they were
23:56
very pro Democrat. Okay. And they do talk about American
23:59
politics quite a bit.
24:01
Adam Curry: So the lockdown files consist of 100,000
24:04
WhatsApp messages, which have revealed some things about the
24:09
lockdown
24:10
Unknown: after and these are fairly explosive allegations.
24:13
You Yes, they certainly are. Broke late last night with the
24:19
telegraph front page, saying fundamentally that Matt Hancock
24:23
who was of course health secretary, and ignored the
24:26
advice of Chris witty the chief medical officer to test
24:31
everybody going in to a care home now that of course, is
24:35
pretty damning, and it has come from 100,000 WhatsApp messages,
24:42
that's journalist Isabel Oakshott handed over to the
24:45
Telegraph. Now Isabelle co wrote maps Hancock's pandemic diaries
24:51
along with him and so was previously very friendly with
24:54
him, and now has that has obviously soured. Now Matt
24:59
Hancock's teams are absolutely incandescent with rage. They're
25:04
saying that this is flat out wrong, that the story has been
25:08
distorted because there's a WhatsApp message referring to a
25:11
meeting. They say in that meeting, Matt Hancock was told,
25:15
although he wanted to test everybody going into care homes,
25:19
that they simply didn't have the capacity and that is why he was
25:24
therefore only able to test people going into care homes
25:28
that were coming in from hospital. So they are very
25:31
angry. They're threatening legal action. Isabel Oakshott
25:34
apparently would have signed a nondisclosure agreement and was
25:37
writing in Matt Hancock support when the pandemic diaries came
25:41
out of basically that history would reflect that he'd done his
25:45
best, but that looks rather different today.
25:49
Adam Curry: Yeah, here's the takeaway. One, don't trust
25:52
journalists. They'll Screw you. If they can to erase your
25:57
messages people. WhatsApp is I'm sure that's not government level
26:03
messaging approved protocol. I would think that doesn't seem
26:09
like a smart thing to have hanging around. In the lockdown
26:15
files, we also learn the UK health authorities considered
26:19
ordering the euthanization of all pet cats in the country.
26:25
Wow, I can't believe they missed that opportunity. It's good,
26:31
great. So Europe is taking the Tiktok thing very seriously.
26:37
They're even presenting it as as like legislation is done tic
26:41
TOCs leaving America.
26:42
Unknown: Now the how US has Deutsche Avella House Foreign
26:45
Affairs Committee has voted to give presidential Biden new
26:49
paths for an outright ban of tick tock and other social media
26:52
apps. lawmakers voted 26 to 16. To approve the measure.
26:58
Republican committee chair Michael McCaul sponsored it.
27:01
Democrats on the committee oppose the bill Tiktok is used
27:05
by more than 100 million Americans, the measure would
27:08
need to be passed by the full house and he was Senate before
27:12
it can go to Biden tick tock has come under increased scrutiny
27:16
scrutiny on both sides of the Atlantic as Western countries
27:19
take a critical look at the Chinese companies reach and the
27:23
security risks. It might pose.
27:27
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so this thing so why don't you explain
27:28
to the audience? What's the security risk? Oh, the security
27:33
risk some guy jumping off of ice of the office, the roof and onto
27:39
a rubber ball and then hitting the ground and hurting his back?
27:43
Well, okay. Classic tick tock video.
27:46
Adam Curry: Yes. This is the deterring America's
27:48
technological adversaries Act, also known as the data x because
27:52
you know, data is like oil. Today's oil is like the data. So
27:58
what they're saying is absolute bunk. Because there's no more or
28:01
less data that tick tock as an app can glean then Facebook,
28:07
Twitter, Google, etc.
28:10
John C Dvorak: I don't think they can get as much as
28:11
Facebook. Your Facebook is probably getting
28:13
Adam Curry: more you may be right. But because when you sign
28:18
up, it says hey, you know, if you use tick tock anywhere else,
28:23
not necessarily in the app, even though they can do it in the app
28:26
today. Everyone can track your keystrokes in any app. In fact,
28:30
you can see there is a software developer kits available where
28:34
you can reap literally pick up a user and replay their action
28:38
like an instant replay. You can see the movement on the screen.
28:41
This is partially bull crap. Just know it's 100% bullcrap
28:48
that oh, we have to get rid of tick tock because my assertion
28:51
is tick tock is really eating Silicon Valley's launch.
28:56
John C Dvorak: Jas, by the way to fall back on it that is, no
29:00
matter what anyone says about tick tock or what even your
29:03
current assertions? That's the reason
29:05
Adam Curry: yes for for the for this, but it's being spun into.
29:09
We can have the Chinese PRC we can't we can't have them,
29:15
getting our data on our people get we want to track our people.
29:19
We can't have someone else doing that. It's so cynical. So the
29:24
national security problem is or the here's how they're playing
29:31
it's national security issue. And that's why we have to do
29:33
this
29:34
Unknown: here in Washington tonight. The crackdown on tick
29:36
tock continues. The White House today gave government agencies
29:40
30 days to remove the video sharing app from all federal
29:43
devices and computer systems.
29:44
Adam Curry: If it's an emergency, why 30 days, why not
29:49
30 hours?
29:49
John C Dvorak: I have another question just above that it's
29:52
more meta. What is tic toc or any product like that doing on
29:58
any federal device? I mean, wonder what are they? I'm
30:04
working for the government. I've got a government to hand me a
30:07
phone. And so what am I going to do dick around on tick tock, and
30:11
they're going to allow that. What's it doing there in the
30:14
first place? I tracked down everyone who had tick tock on
30:18
the phones, and FYROM.
30:20
Adam Curry: It's interesting, you bring that up. I just
30:23
someone just sent me this this morning. That the car is here.
30:30
The Department of Homeland Security has ordered everyone if
30:39
I guess they give them iPhones. That they have a deal with Apple
30:45
and they give the handout, government iPhones to them.
30:51
Their iMessage will be disabled, I think within the next week,
30:56
and they will only be able to communicate via SMS text
31:00
message. So So the government is disabling? I think the probably
31:06
the security factor of you know the encryption. Maybe Apple
31:11
doesn't want to crack encryption of people sending messages
31:15
within Department of Homeland Security. I'm not sure he had
31:18
deactivation of the iMessage service. DHS has mandate
31:23
mandated as of Wednesday, March 1, yesterday, the Apple iMessage
31:26
service option on DHS furnished Apple devices must be disabled,
31:30
all text messages will be handled through cellular carrier
31:33
Short Message Service, or multimedia message services. So
31:41
you know, they're cracking down on on something. But why you see
31:46
the the immediacy of of the of the iMessage, but not the Tick
31:52
Tock 30 days, I think there was also a 90 day limit here.
31:55
Unknown: The Office of Management Budget says the move
31:57
is aimed at protecting us data official suspect that China is
32:01
using the app to spy on Americans you go to ban does not
32:04
impact the more than 100 million Americans and teams who use tick
32:08
tock on non government devices.
32:11
Adam Curry: Yeah, but it's just that's how it's gonna happen.
32:15
And you have to ask yourself, why, you know, why doesn't Apple
32:17
be a good citizen here? Take it off. We all know why. People
32:22
would throw away their iPhones. I need my tick tock.
32:27
John C Dvorak: Nobody needs tick tock, especially on a government
32:29
product. People are addicted to tick tock. No. I mean, I look at
32:33
tick tock, I don't use it. I use my phone to I will go on
32:38
somebody have a link to something and I'll play it on
32:42
the web, not tracking anything there.
32:46
Adam Curry: The main issue here is the people who voted against
32:52
this, which was of course all the Democrats, but also some
32:54
some Republicans on the committee clearly. I think I'm
32:59
gonna just find out who did. It's like, you know, this gives
33:01
the President extraordinary powers. What being able to just
33:07
throw any app out of the App Store? Because of you know,
33:11
national security issues. That's the that's the way it's written
33:15
up is his gig gives the President the authority to do
33:17
this. Which I find weird, you know, why wouldn't you just have
33:21
Congress make a law and say, No tick tock or nothing from China?
33:24
John C Dvorak: Why Why bother? So Gretchen Whitmer had the best
33:29
line about this whole thing. She said that she's not worried
33:34
about tick tock because she's only got one phone. What said,
33:41
Adam Curry: how was that a good news?
33:44
John C Dvorak: Well, that's what she said. I don't know what it
33:46
means that she's just such a tic TOCs. Not worrisome, because she
33:51
only has one phone.
33:53
Adam Curry: That's so odd. I don't know what she means by
33:57
that.
33:57
John C Dvorak: It's what you want is what you want for your
33:58
governor.
34:00
Adam Curry: Hmm. Well, it's interesting to see that apple
34:04
won't block Tik Tok, which is clearly you know, unAmerican
34:08
unAmerican to have that on your platform, by the way, you don't
34:11
hear anyone saying that. Why isn't Marco Rubio or McCall from
34:16
Texas? Why aren't they saying, you know, Apple and Google,
34:18
they're unAmerican by allowing this in their app store?
34:20
Wouldn't that solve it? But no. Apple did, however, block an
34:27
email program, which I think is called it's called Email blue or
34:33
something. And the reason why is because this app will write
34:38
emails using AI chat GPT. So Apple says, you know, we have a
34:45
lot of concern about this. So we have to block that from the App
34:49
Store. Blue mail is what it's called. Your app includes AI
34:55
generated content, but does not appear to include content
34:57
filtering is the reason So this is all bullcrap all of it.
35:03
They're all full of crap. And out for as far as I can see,
35:08
let's not call it a pivot. But as far as I can see, this is all
35:11
about focusing everybody on China. Let's just get this
35:15
Ukraine war over with let's focus on China.
35:20
John C Dvorak: Here's my Ukraine's clips all I guess 22
35:22
seconds is all I got about Ukraine.
35:24
Unknown: With Ukrainian forces coming under relentless assault
35:27
in the city of back mode. Military officials now say they
35:30
may be prepared to pull some troops back remarks apparently
35:34
suggest Russia could capture the eastern city that is viewed as a
35:37
symbol of Ukrainian resistance to Russian occupation. Kremlin
35:41
forces have staged a bloody month long offensive to take the
35:44
city, which is pretty much become a ghost town.
35:48
Adam Curry: Yeah, I have a couple more clips. We start with
35:52
what you will never see on the M five M here in the United
35:55
States, and you'll barely see it on the M five m in the EU, where
35:59
this is going down. This is from I think France 24,
36:03
Unknown: marching for peace in Ukraine, hundreds to the streets
36:06
of London on Saturday, urging a ceasefire and negotiations with
36:10
Russia to end the conflict. Among them supporters of the
36:13
Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, warning that any
36:16
escalation in fighting would increase the chances of a
36:18
nuclear war. Many wanted to see an end to Western military
36:22
support for Ukraine. It would help if we stopped saying we'll
36:26
just give you lots more weapons until you win the war. It's not
36:31
gonna happen like that, you know, Ukrainians are really
36:34
tough. Russians are really tough, and NATO is really rich.
36:38
So that's, that's all the ingredients you need for a kind
36:41
of endless war. Well, this demonstration is one of many
36:44
happening over this weekend across Europe. Now, for these
36:48
demonstrators. arming Ukraine is simply making things worse and
36:52
prolonging the conflict. But others take a very different
36:55
approach. In the Belgian capital, many of those marching
36:59
in solidarity with Ukraine were actually refugees from that
37:02
country.
37:08
Weapons for our defense, we need the sanctions against the
37:11
Russia. We need economical support, because we defend not
37:16
only our land, we defend all democracy world
37:20
while in Berlin, a bigger protest at least 10,000 turned
37:23
up to say no to the idea of Germany arming Ukraine,
37:27
we're demonstrating for peace and against intervention of our
37:33
government in in that war that is not ours.
37:38
The people that voted for those politicians, they did not know
37:42
that they will push us into war and send weapons into countries
37:48
that are in war. This is even against our constitution.
37:51
So different messages, and no end in sight to the misery
37:54
inflicted on the people of Ukraine.
37:56
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. So we have everyone except
38:00
Brussels. Brussels is all that it does whatever it takes
38:03
Brussels. Wonder why Brussels
38:05
John C Dvorak: huh? Well, Biden keeps saying whatever it takes
38:12
and then Trudeau recently says whatever it takes,
38:15
Adam Curry: and Janet Yellen, surprise visit to good old
38:20
Volodymyr. She just popped by Ukraine to say Hi,
38:24
Unknown: Mark one year since the beginning of this full scale
38:28
invitations to message I bring you from President Biden this
38:32
symbol, America oops, we'll stand with Ukraine for as long
38:37
as it takes.
38:39
US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen swept into cube on Monday
38:43
in a surprise visit to reaffirm us support for Ukraine as it
38:47
fights Russia's invasion, highlighting US economic aid
38:51
that is bolstering Ukraine's war efforts.
38:54
Today I'm proud to announce the transfer budget An additional
38:58
advantage over the first tranche of about $10 billion into the
39:09
United States to provide in the coming months,
39:13
feeling met with President Volodymyr Zelensky and Ukrainian
39:16
Prime Minister Dinesh Miho. Also the to discuss further US
39:22
sanctions on Russia, as well as confiscating frozen Russian
39:26
assets.
39:31
John C Dvorak: What's missing?
39:33
Adam Curry: I'm still hanging out the frozen Russian assets.
39:36
They're gonna take the Russian money to rebuild I can
39:38
John C Dvorak: get away with that. Yes, they
39:40
Adam Curry: are. Of course,
39:41
John C Dvorak: they're not. Okay, I can get away with that
39:43
they're not. Why not? Because it's illegals against
39:47
international law to do what they're going to try to
39:49
Adam Curry: what name the international law and who
39:52
maintains this international law at you.
39:55
John C Dvorak: I'm just telling you, that's not going to happen
39:57
you if you think it's going to happen. Okay, we'll put $1 on
39:59
it. Done, here's what's missing. A wins the bet. And
40:05
Adam Curry: as long as it takes,
40:08
John C Dvorak: I'll never get my dollar. So there's something
40:12
missing from all these reports. If you remember what you don't
40:15
want remember the Vietnam War in some of these other wars, they
40:17
will usually have a daily death toll. There has been very little
40:23
talk of the death toll. It's as if they're wiping out the male
40:29
reproductive aged males that are getting killed left and right
40:34
now they're running teams out there. They're killing off the
40:36
population of Ukraine for some reason. And I'm wondering if
40:39
it's not being done on purpose, they're not telling us about the
40:41
casualties at all.
40:43
Adam Curry: That is very interesting, because I came
40:46
across this report from France. 24 is comfortable
40:49
Unknown: in Kyiv, Svetlana and Nicola have repeatedly discussed
40:52
having a child because he's in the Ukrainian army. She's 25.
40:56
He's 30. They met just four months before Russia's full
41:00
scale invasion a year ago, but especially in the war
41:04
accelerated things, and made us think about the sincerity of our
41:08
feelings, and the values we share. They are now engaged to
41:13
be married and want a child Dame to freeze and store Mikelis
41:17
sperm before he goes to the front.
41:22
Row, I suggested it, I wasn't thinking of the worst that could
41:25
happen. Sure. I told him that if injuries damaged his ability to
41:30
have children, at least we would have this solution.
41:33
Adam Curry: Yeah. So they're just freezing their sperm
41:35
sending them off to be killed.
41:39
John C Dvorak: There was a couple of reports that have come
41:41
out here and there that say that if the average lifespan for a
41:47
Ukrainian soldier on the frontlines is one hour,
41:50
Adam Curry: yeah, no, no, they're being slaughtered,
41:52
they're being absolutely slaughtered. Of course, there's
41:54
not going to be any count of that.
41:57
John C Dvorak: Now. And that's what's missing. If you remember,
42:00
anyone remembers war stories from any of the other little
42:03
battles. They always talk about the casualties. They've even
42:07
talked about the casualties in Iraq, of the civilians, which
42:11
was a quarter of a million people, at least, and but
42:15
there's really one of those 100,000 Russians killed, they
42:19
did sometimes mentioned that's killing off.
42:23
Adam Curry: That's, that's the only thing you'll hear is how
42:25
many Russians died. You're right. That's the only thing you
42:28
hear in that regard. Meanwhile, back home, and by the way, you
42:35
can set any date you want on that on that dollar, because at
42:40
least I have them saying they're going to do it and saying that
42:42
they're going to set up a new special court for that. And
42:46
they're going to change international law for that. So
42:49
if you can find something to the contrary, instead of justice
42:51
never going to happen. I'd respect that.
42:53
John C Dvorak: But I'll take the dollar after December first of
42:56
this year.
42:57
Adam Curry: Fine. Boy, here is December 1 of this year good.
43:04
Here's our current war monger the ever so peace loving Sean
43:08
Penn on CNN with both thing I'd
43:11
Unknown: like to say is, you know, having just just returned
43:14
from Ukraine about 10 days ago or so I was that the the impact
43:20
of President Biden's trip was extraordinary. I mean, that's
43:23
that that's extremely encouraging. I think one of the
43:30
things that's concerned me and I, you know, I think that
43:33
there's no question but that they need more ammunition more
43:38
long range precision weapons, and yes, fighter jets. Oh, yeah.
43:43
This and the issue really, is that, you know, right now
43:49
they're dying, every day, they're dying. So what we're
43:53
waiting for seems to still be attached to this.
43:57
Adam Curry: This is interesting. He is saying they're dying,
43:59
they're dying. They're dying. This is actually the only person
44:01
who's kind of being a little bit honest about that. But now he's
44:05
saying, you know, we need to kill him and kill other people.
44:08
You know, that we can have, Hey, you can't you can't go outside
44:13
if you're not vaccinated. So Sean Penn because you're killing
44:15
people, but meanwhile, I want f6 teams to kill people,
44:19
Unknown: I would argue over cautious concern, or war monger
44:24
nuclear weapons because
44:26
Adam Curry: and nuclear weapons is just an is not true. It's
44:28
just a joke, according to him.
44:30
Unknown: For one thing, if we're going to live in a world where a
44:35
bully with nuclear weapons, runs the show. You know, there are
44:40
there was a
44:42
Adam Curry: this is interesting, was it not Volodymyr Zelensky?
44:45
Who was the first one to say we need nuclear weapons in Ukraine?
44:49
It wasn't he being the bully by saying that.
44:53
Unknown: A former intelligence officer I'd spoken to in Ukraine
44:57
at one point he said you know it He doesn't live in that want to
45:00
live in that world and Ukraine won't. And so I just think we
45:04
have to make a clear decision to start saving lives saving
45:09
infrastructure. And by killing other people what that means is
45:13
supplying the Ukrainians they have no interest in having
45:16
Americans or others in the fight they're ready to take the fight
45:19
themselves. And their their ability to transition on these
45:22
platforms be at the Essex teens, or, or when it comes to the
45:26
patriot.
45:27
Adam Curry: I just love Sean Penn so indoctrinated by the
45:30
military industrial complex, who no doubt are sending our flying
45:33
him in and out every single time. We're now he's talking
45:36
about these platforms, you know, because he's so schooled on the
45:38
F 16 platform, the Patriot platform, you know, just just
45:43
call it what it is the Raytheon and Boeing platform Sean Penn,
45:46
you are a horrible war monger.
45:49
Unknown: Is is not I don't think there's been an honest
45:52
conversation about how quickly they can transition I think it's
45:55
all there's a lot in the air about how long it takes
45:58
maintenance fueling all of that, but there are a lot of many ways
46:03
in which that can be you know,
46:06
Adam Curry: sped up Yeah, speed it up. Everybody need to speed
46:09
it up.
46:11
John C Dvorak: This WHAT IS IT guy like that he's an actor. And
46:15
he's goes over there. And of course, he did a little movie or
46:19
something before but he's over there now. And he's, and he says
46:23
talking to an intelligence officer,
46:26
Adam Curry: former former former intelligence officer
46:29
John C Dvorak: I don't think he said former did I think you said
46:31
former. Okay.
46:35
Adam Curry: But doesn't matter.
46:36
John C Dvorak: Just doesn't seem like the kind of thing you when
46:39
you're traveling around. Under any circumstances. You're gonna
46:42
be talking to too many of those guys. Why are they talking?
46:45
Adam Curry: Hi, Sean, good to meet you. I'm a former
46:47
intelligence officer. Yeah, that sounds right. Then we had our
46:55
NATO chief, it's really these people are insane. Jens
46:59
Stoltenberg. Standing next to the guy standing next to the
47:04
prime minister of Finland. You know, the millennial girl.
47:09
John C Dvorak: The girl yeah, she's the dancer. Yes. All she
47:13
party girl
47:14
Adam Curry: the party girl. Exactly. But she she she did not
47:17
bump into the furniture. She read her lines after the tee up
47:20
from the setup here from the Leu percent up from Yen's? Well,
47:25
Unknown: they do almost agree that Ukraine will become a
47:28
member of our alliance. But at the same time that that is a
47:32
long term perspective, what is the what is the issue now is to
47:36
ensure that Ukraine prevail as a sovereign, independent,
47:39
independent nation, and therefore we need to support
47:42
Ukraine.
47:43
I see that the future of Ukraine is to be part of European Union
47:49
and also a member of NATO. We have taken many steps forward
47:54
when it comes to military aid to Ukraine. And I'm very glad that
47:57
we are now cooperating together much more closely to give your
48:03
brain more heavy weapons, I think for discussion now,
48:07
Adam Curry: heavy weapons. She has the Sean Penn talking
48:10
points, heavy weapons. That's what he said to
48:13
Unknown: to giving your brain more heavy weapons. I think that
48:16
discussion now even though it's taking some time, it's been very
48:21
important concerning for example, your parts. So
48:25
countries are cooperating together more closely and more
48:29
widely. And this is a very good thing we have to support Ukraine
48:32
as long as it takes. They also need more heavy weapons.
48:37
Adam Curry: Literally going into a loop is repeating herself.
48:40
Unknown: And this is a very good thing we have to support your
48:43
frame as long as it takes. And they also need more heavy
48:46
weapons. And the faster and the sooner we can give them more
48:51
heavy weapons, the sooner the war will end. And this is
48:54
something that we also need that cooperation between the
48:58
democratic countries has taken many decisions on arm support
49:03
Ukraine and we are willing to continue this as long as it
49:07
takes.
49:08
John C Dvorak: Wow, she keeps saying the same thing over and
49:10
over. Yes, she's caught in the loop as long as it takes she
49:13
said it to least three times
49:15
Adam Curry: and but she had the same pen speeded up heavy
49:18
weapons. This is also by the way, Penn didn't say the former
49:23
intelligence officer was CIA. Whoever it was indoctrinated him
49:29
good. That's how it works. Hey, man, I'm just giving you some
49:32
inside info, you know, because I'm former former CIA. So you
49:36
know, clearly, you know, the agency boys. I'm not supposed to
49:39
tell you this. But the agency boys tell you they like we
49:42
rolled up to speed this up. We need to get to heavy weapons and
49:44
as long as it takes. And that's how it worked. I think Sean Penn
49:48
is dumb. It's very possible. He's just dumb.
49:53
John C Dvorak: Sean Penn has a lot of earmarks. A person who's
49:56
dumb.
49:57
Adam Curry: You know, it's like how else can you come to these
49:59
conclusions? Jim's now Russia in the meantime, they're there.
50:05
They're just piling it on now. This is a Foreign Minister
50:09
Lavrov, with a translator about the biological warfare that this
50:15
is really about.
50:16
Unknown: It has arrived. And we have had data and we have data
50:19
that Pentagon, the Pentagon is preoccupied about the chemical
50:24
and biological installations in Ukraine, because Pentagon built
50:29
two biological war labs, and they have been developing
50:34
pathogens in Cavan, in Odessa, and now they are concerned that
50:40
they may lose control over these labs. And you know, what it may
50:44
be like, in future and Americans decline fledgling resolutely to
50:50
start a new inspection mechanism as part of the convention for
50:56
the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons and they build new
51:00
chemical and biological facilities all across Russian
51:03
borders. And, you know, many other developments happen, the
51:08
CIA has been on the ground in droves. And they have been
51:15
training the Ukrainian army not to wage a war with Paul and
51:18
Baron.
51:20
Adam Curry: Really, so CIA is swarming talking to Sean Penn,
51:24
letting him know, as former intelligence officers, and
51:27
they're kind of worried about the Bio Labs, which I think we
51:30
kind of got confirmation on from Victoria Nuland that they were
51:33
real, that we have biolabs
51:36
John C Dvorak: Yes, we do. So that's another thing that's deja
51:39
vu.
51:40
Adam Curry: Just a little bit at ABC that kind of the screwball
51:44
report
51:44
Unknown: tonight, a series of mysterious drone strikes inside
51:48
Russia. According to the Kremlin. video circulating
51:52
online shown explosion at an oil depo smoke billowing into the
51:56
sky and other drone believed to be targeting a gas facility
51:59
striking deep inside Russia. It came within just 60 miles of
52:03
Moscow, the Kremlin blaming Ukraine, but so far no claim of
52:06
responsibility.
52:08
Adam Curry: How can you crane send a drone 60 miles from
52:11
Moscow? Are you kidding me? That's us.
52:14
Unknown: Vladimir Putin today ordering his Federal Security
52:17
Service the FSB to take over border security. Not sure what
52:20
is wrong, even made a rare admission, saying there have
52:23
been losses in our ranks. Many of those losses are in eastern
52:28
Ukraine in back moved. Desperate for a win after more than a year
52:32
of war. Moscow is sending in fighter jets, battering endless
52:37
buildings with artillery and losing countless lives, all to
52:40
take now ruined back mood. Those determined to say trying to
52:47
survive with the relentless sound of gunfire and explosions.
52:52
Buildings burning, but no one is coming to help here. But Ukraine
52:57
spirit of survival, unbroken today, Ukraine announcing
53:00
additional units are on their way to back mood. This is
53:05
soldiers saying though the city is on fire. Ukraine will live
53:13
Adam Curry: a couple of interesting articles. The
53:17
Pentagon is now saying that yeah, you know, we are losing a
53:21
lot of weapons that that are going into Ukraine that we're
53:24
sending. But that's because Russia is taking them.
53:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I saw this report to that networks have
53:31
been promoting this idea. Yeah. All right, that Russia is
53:35
overrunning these guys and then taking the weapons
53:40
Adam Curry: and them taking them to Africa. I guess.
53:45
John C Dvorak: The thing that gets me I still don't understand
53:46
why the Russians haven't gone to Afghanistan and picked up the
53:49
weapons to $80 billion where the stuff we left there.
53:54
Adam Curry: I thought that the I thought ISIS was already moving
53:58
in to help them personally.
54:01
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's some a lot of good stuff that
54:04
could be useful. Yeah,
54:07
Adam Curry: possibly, as Alinsky predicted that Putin will be
54:10
killed by his inner circle that he'll just wind up getting
54:14
pushed out of a window. Yeah, sure. What kind of dawned on me
54:19
is these freaks who are doing this the Newlands the Jake
54:22
Solomon's the NED Prince Obama's the okay Biden for whatever's
54:27
left of his of his brain matter. CIA you have the whole the whole
54:31
government apparatus that that wants to do this that wants to
54:34
get rid of everybody and wants to you know, they did freeze
54:38
Russia's money, you know, so call it you can call that theft
54:41
if you want to, but, you know, throw them off the SWIFT system,
54:44
the 10th round of sanctions, all this stuff going on. But there's
54:50
no rush of phobia they haven't been able to ignite. What was
54:55
the Red Scare? Because no one is afraid of Russians. We have put
55:00
phobia. Yeah, boy yeah, Putin bad guy. You know, it doesn't
55:05
resemble in any way the Red Scare that like the commies are
55:09
coming or anything like is none of the communist under your bed
55:12
and then there's these they can't ignite that it's not
55:15
possible people are to intertwine mainly thanks for tic
55:18
toc. We watch Russian videos. I don't think anyone hates
55:23
Russians.
55:24
John C Dvorak: Anyone who's watched the cut Russian car
55:26
crash videos loves the
55:27
Adam Curry: Russians. I mean, while we still have that going
55:31
on, and also while we, you know, we literally shot you we get
55:34
we're carrying Russians to the International Space Station.
55:37
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we did a lunch recently, this morning.
55:41
Adam Curry: In fact, the 40. Let me say this, Clive
55:45
Unknown: asked all the crew members, both Russians and
55:47
Americans, how do you deal with that on the station? That's a
55:51
lot of tension. Do you discuss Putin? And do you discuss
55:54
Ukraine? Or do you just leave it off the table, not all of them
55:57
said we don't go there. We've got very important issues. Our
56:00
lives depend on each other. We simply don't talk politics. And
56:04
Russia and America continue this relationship in space, because
56:08
they're partners in the international space station, and
56:11
they need each other. And so this crew, which will jump to
56:14
the station tomorrow is arriving just as they've also had some
56:17
drama on the station. They've had two Russian spacecraft over
56:22
the last few months, develop leaks or coolant leaks, one of
56:26
them cargo ship, they had three up and let go and it burned up
56:30
in the atmosphere on reentry. The other one is Soyuz
56:33
spacecraft was supposed to be the lifeboat in case they had to
56:37
evacuate the station. So they had been without a lifeboat for
56:40
one American and two Russians. Russia just launched another
56:44
replacement law lifeboat a Soyuz last week. But that's been the
56:48
concern what has been causing these micro leaks, they think
56:51
it's a micro meteorite strike that have taken out the coolant
56:55
systems on a Soyuz and a Progress cargo ship. Again, they
56:59
dock tomorrow, six months on the space station, doing some 200
57:04
experiments. So a lot of universities are watching very
57:06
closely to see their experiments are going to be completed guys
57:10
back to you.
57:12
John C Dvorak: Still there from the Kennedy Space Center. And
57:14
that SpaceX launch, Tom, thank you.
57:16
Adam Curry: No, thank you, Tom. Riveting, just riveting. We're
57:19
carrying a Russian so we just don't have we don't have that
57:21
rush of phobia and so people aren't invested in this. And
57:25
when I don't even think we have love for Ukraine. It's like look
57:27
at the Lensky isn't he hot?
57:31
John C Dvorak: That's all Linsky seems like it like an asshole
57:35
Adam Curry: Well, of course he's an actor No wonder Sean Penn
57:39
gets along with him so well. Absolutely. The I got two more
57:46
clips here. One is
57:48
John C Dvorak: the characters you know there's no investment
57:50
in the characters.
57:52
Adam Curry: No, there's no character development you're
57:55
right now
57:56
John C Dvorak: it's just like it's like watching one of these
57:58
a movie or something unfold and you don't care about anybody at
58:03
all? No. So you can't You're not if you don't get invested you
58:07
stop watching
58:08
Adam Curry: this right now oh yeah, I think I think disasters
58:12
now for the ratings is definitely not working for
58:14
ratings anymore. People don't care they're moving on. We're
58:17
much we're too worried about Tiktok being taken away. Gotta
58:21
have that in my vein 24/7 France 24 did a very interesting they
58:27
call it truth or fake I think
58:30
John C Dvorak: yeah, they do that i we did we highlighted
58:32
this a couple of years ago. I started doing it weekly and then
58:35
it was not that interesting.
58:37
Adam Curry: Oh, so So they did one which I like for a number of
58:40
reasons. One, they are trying to take down Stu Peters, who I
58:44
think you and I both find a questionable character.
58:48
Absolutely. And and they're taking down him based on to
58:55
conspiracy theories. And one of them I wouldn't have even
58:59
brought up but since since do Peters appears I mean and when
59:03
you hear how unhinged he is about this, it's you know, the
59:07
Zelinsky has a guy his bodyguard and and the bodyguard looks a
59:12
bit like him. And so, you know, this is a typical telegram item
59:16
people on telegram. Oh man, look at it as his body doubles. Is it
59:20
the real one is the body double? Now we know the body doubles
59:23
exist. We've caught a few of them Hillary Clinton for sure.
59:28
But really the technology for masks and to have someone else
59:32
look like it like be the person you think they are? That I mean,
59:38
that was the stuff that you saw. What was the Tom Cruise movies
59:41
that Mission Impossible?
59:43
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Mission Impossible. The old TV shows
59:45
would show this and if you listen to the like the CIA
59:50
experts like that woman that was the costumer Yeah. It's it
59:56
sounds like it's beyond our comprehension how good this is.
1:00:00
Adam Curry: It is. I mean, the technology I have heard
1:00:03
firsthand from family members, that in the late 60s This
1:00:08
technology was already good enough to fool people. And
1:00:10
that's probably what the CIA is a disguise lady shows Well, this
1:00:14
is what we're doing the 50 years ago. So it's going to be much
1:00:18
better. So that whole premise is just a stew Peters distraction.
1:00:23
I know a lot of people love him. Like, Ah, he's talented like it
1:00:26
is. He should do Show with James O'Keefe. They should team up
1:00:30
together and I'll be on Tim Poole.
1:00:33
Unknown: Yes, Fraser this week's do Peters the American fire
1:00:35
rights influencer and TV host has published no less than three
1:00:39
misleading pieces of information surrounding the war in Ukraine.
1:00:44
One of them published just two days ago, shows Ukrainian
1:00:48
president Volodymyr Zelensky. And US President Joe Biden
1:00:51
climbing the stairs together in caves, Mariinsky palace. Now in
1:00:55
the video attached to these tweets, we can see a man
1:00:59
resembling bloodmeal Zelinsky appear, follow the two and then
1:01:03
suddenly stop. Now according to sue pizzas, this represents a
1:01:07
glitch in the matrix.
1:01:11
Adam Curry: And what she's doing, she's showing his tweets
1:01:14
as you circling on the big screen glitch in the Matrix.
1:01:17
Which by the way, pisses me off to just using the word glitch
1:01:20
disqualifies you, but it's like, oh, wow, man, what is this must
1:01:25
be a deep fake what's going on glitch in the matrix, and
1:01:28
Unknown: he went on to perpetuate the theory that this
1:01:30
man is a lookalike or a double of Vladimir slansky. Now this is
1:01:34
a theory that we've seen for a long time from Russian
1:01:37
propagandists to Russian propagandists during the war. In
1:01:40
Ukraine. We've covered this a lot here on truth of it before,
1:01:43
and it's very visible on pro Russian accounts on telegram and
1:01:47
on Twitter. You go this video actually shows
1:01:49
Adam Curry: notice the Yeah, very pro Russian accounts
1:01:52
telegram and Twitter. That's where you go, that's where you
1:01:54
go hang out. If you're pro Russians,
1:01:56
Unknown: Maxime Donets, he is loaded. mooseland skews
1:02:00
official, bodyguard. This is a photo from the same visit
1:02:05
published by French media Alex Paris. And as we can see, he
1:02:08
does have a similar height and build to the Ukrainian
1:02:12
president. But he does have very discernible distinguishable and
1:02:15
different facial features. Now we can see him again, in these
1:02:19
in this in these photos published last August, with
1:02:23
Boris Johnson, but again, similar heights and builds, but
1:02:26
they are very, very much different people.
1:02:29
Adam Curry: Now I love I just love that they go to such
1:02:31
lengths to even discuss this. Let's do
1:02:34
Unknown: Pete has also shared this tweets with his followers
1:02:37
earlier this week. And this one racked up over 17 million views.
1:02:41
Adam Curry: Now this is interesting this is you probably
1:02:43
saw the montage where you see all these buildings that were
1:02:47
partially or really heavily damaged. And they're now all
1:02:52
rebuilt and beautiful and pristine. Which in my mind is
1:02:57
not when I saw when I first saw this I'm like, well, it's easy
1:02:59
to just reverse the pictures. Yeah, this. This is now instead
1:03:03
of it was then. But it turns out, they have literally been
1:03:07
rebuilding these buildings during the war, which I also
1:03:11
kind of find like, odd considering everything's under
1:03:16
attack.
1:03:17
Unknown: He posted these two photos of the same building in
1:03:20
Ukraine. One was taken last year in February 2022, and one from
1:03:24
this year in 2023. Now he claims that this war is fake or staged
1:03:29
and that these these buildings couldn't possibly have been
1:03:32
touched by any missiles or bombs, because it would be
1:03:35
impossible to restore the building to this condition in
1:03:37
this time. Again, this is a popular pro Russian theory that
1:03:41
we have seen numerous times here again, even on truth or fake at
1:03:45
the war being a hoax. Now this building's reconstruction has
1:03:49
been pretty heavily documented in both Western and Ukrainian
1:03:54
media. After Russian troops withdrew from cube last March,
1:03:58
that is exactly what allowed this building to be rebuilt. And
1:04:01
as it was discussed quite heavily in this article from
1:04:05
Ukraine's the village, the building was documented stage by
1:04:08
stage of its reconstruction Fraser
1:04:10
Adam Curry: Okay, so I will mention that I find a couple
1:04:13
things strange. Russians withdrawal from Kyiv did they
1:04:18
ever enter Kyiv
1:04:20
John C Dvorak: not that I know that I know of either. They had
1:04:23
their tanks nearby that they were running down to Don Basque
1:04:27
and then Shan boss.
1:04:28
Adam Curry: He says this has been heavily documented in
1:04:30
Western media as well as others and then the example she gives
1:04:34
is the kief Gazette I mean that's we know that trick is an
1:04:38
intelligence trick, but according to the to the key of
1:04:42
times. So she doesn't quote The New York Times or any other
1:04:47
Washington Post or anything like that. So I but in general, it's
1:04:51
like really, I didn't know that they actually worry rebuilding.
1:04:55
Well, no wonder we need the money from Russia. We got to pay
1:04:58
off the contractors for work already performed.
1:05:05
John C Dvorak: And that is peculiar.
1:05:07
Adam Curry: final clip is from Douglas McGregor. You don't like
1:05:11
him?
1:05:12
John C Dvorak: We've talked about Douglas McGregor before I
1:05:14
tried to get a hold of them. But our podcast and no agenda show
1:05:18
is to beneath him to even discuss anything.
1:05:21
Adam Curry: Wow, this comes from some lowly podcast. I can't
1:05:25
believe
1:05:25
John C Dvorak: I know. That's what he did got me. Well, maybe
1:05:28
we were just we weren't even
1:05:30
Adam Curry: know. So do we now not trust Him? Because He
1:05:32
John C Dvorak: shows distrust them. I just think he's a
1:05:35
douchebag.
1:05:35
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Well, the question is posed, who's behind
1:05:39
this war?
1:05:41
Unknown: So the first question that I wanted to get down, is,
1:05:46
who is it that really wants this war
1:05:50
between NATO and Vladimir Putin because it is clear that the
1:05:53
American people are largely divorced from the reality of
1:05:56
this conflict as they have been for the last 30 years of divorce
1:06:01
from all the conflicts, war has always been something that
1:06:04
happened far away on somebody else's soil. The difference this
1:06:09
time is that Washington has decided, along with help and
1:06:14
assistance, particularly from its allies in London, and the
1:06:17
global financial community run out of New York City, to wage
1:06:21
war on the Russian stage, with the goal of not simply regime
1:06:26
change, but ultimately destroying the state,
1:06:29
potentially dismembering it. And when you look at the people who
1:06:32
are advocates for this terrible, destructive policy, they are
1:06:38
largely the same people that that got us into the Balkans, in
1:06:41
the 1990s, into Bosnia and Kosovo. And then subsequently,
1:06:46
or were largely supportive of the interventions in 2001, and
1:06:50
three, for perpetual warfare in the Middle East, demonizing and
1:06:56
transforming into an enemy, Libya, Syria, and obviously,
1:07:01
Iran. This is an old story, it's the same old trope that you've
1:07:07
been hearing. It's 1936. Again, we have another potential
1:07:12
Hilarion state, and if we don't act, we are appeasers and the
1:07:17
war, there's the world as we know, it will lead. So that's
1:07:21
about it. But I think there's a lot of money behind this because
1:07:24
Russia is full of trillions of dollars of resources, mineral
1:07:28
resources, oil, gas, precious metals, agricultural, we just go
1:07:33
down the list. And it was an attempt in the 90s. And any
1:07:37
early part of this century by people from the West, many of
1:07:41
whom are connected to organizations like Goldman Sachs
1:07:44
and the global financial community, to go in and
1:07:46
effectively rape Russia and steal everything they possibly
1:07:49
could from it. They were ultimately defeated and thrown
1:07:53
out by Vladimir Putin, who established a new regime to
1:07:58
bring some more stability and dignity back to the Russian
1:08:01
state.
1:08:02
Adam Curry: That it's a trope for sure, when you throw out
1:08:05
Goldman Sachs
1:08:10
John C Dvorak: videos, which but No, he wouldn't figure that out.
1:08:13
I mean, you have to give Putin some credit for recognizing that
1:08:15
the NGOs were fronts,
1:08:17
Adam Curry: right. But were they connected to Goldman Sachs? I
1:08:20
didn't know that. I don't know
1:08:21
John C Dvorak: that they were not but they were friends and
1:08:24
everything had to go. Goldman Sachs word was involved in any
1:08:27
of this. He
1:08:28
Adam Curry: said trope I'm actually accusing him of, of
1:08:31
saying this is Zeid design is globalists. When you bring in
1:08:35
Goldman Sachs,
1:08:37
John C Dvorak: bringing Goldman Sachs up, you're hinting at it.
1:08:39
Yeah. But that's true. It doesn't sound right to me.
1:08:45
Adam Curry: In the military industrial complex, a
1:08:47
John C Dvorak: real concise answer to the real question,
1:08:50
which was, what's the point? Yeah.
1:08:53
Adam Curry: I mean, Military Industrial Complex. Yeah. Yeah.
1:08:55
I believe that they're high on their own supply. They can't get
1:08:58
enough of it. They love it. To do it. Let's do it. Let's do
1:09:01
more. But just to call out Wall Street. Maybe
1:09:09
John C Dvorak: I'm skeptical.
1:09:10
Adam Curry: Yeah, I'm skeptical too. But you know, until the guy
1:09:13
talks to us, he's just on the skeptical list.
1:09:17
John C Dvorak: Is ever talking
1:09:18
Adam Curry: unless he answers our questions. You've got to
1:09:23
talk to us, man. You're no good. No, good. All right. I think
1:09:29
that is the that's probably the main the main crux of what we've
1:09:35
got there. Just seems like now we're getting everybody all
1:09:41
riled up. To get to take away your tic tock.
1:09:46
John C Dvorak: Just going to be bad tic tock thing is ludicrous.
1:09:50
Adam Curry: It would be I'm all for it. By the way. Get rid of
1:09:53
Tik Tok.
1:09:54
John C Dvorak: I like tick tock.
1:09:56
Adam Curry: Of course you do. It's it's ruining people. I see
1:10:00
grown men Doom scrolling for an hour. Well,
1:10:06
John C Dvorak: I've never been that attached to it but I mean,
1:10:09
I will look at stuff and then I do admire the fact that they do
1:10:13
try to figure out what you're into. No, you know, what, what
1:10:18
are you being attracted to? The problem is I have these software
1:10:21
systems that that it's clear all my caches throw out the cookies
1:10:25
does do all these things every night so I don't know how much
1:10:28
you know, they have to relearn my viewing habits every time I
1:10:33
go on Tik Tok and I only do it maybe a couple of times a week
1:10:35
right? You don't but you'd use an account or just you just know
1:10:39
never get signed up because
1:10:42
Adam Curry: from what I've seen once you view one video if you
1:10:44
want to view another one then it's then it forces you into a
1:10:47
sign up mode.
1:10:48
John C Dvorak: No, I've never had that problem. I go on
1:10:50
they're not signed up. I don't have an account I go view a
1:10:53
video they throw another one at me than another and I can be
1:10:56
there for days if I wanted to be that's that's never happened.
1:10:59
Adam Curry: Oh, well, that's probably because your cookies
1:11:00
are they don't they your new every single time your new
1:11:04
person?
1:11:06
John C Dvorak: Maybe, maybe not. Yeah.
1:11:10
Adam Curry: Let's see what other distraction do we have? This is
1:11:13
a big one here in the United States. Back
1:11:15
Unknown: here in Washington. President Biden's plan to
1:11:17
forgive student loan debt for more than 40 million Americans
1:11:21
is facing its toughest test yet the Supreme Court. The justices
1:11:24
heard arguments today on two different challenges brought by
1:11:27
six Republican led states and two student loan borrowers. See
1:11:31
as Jan Crawford is outside the Supreme Court.
1:11:36
Students came to make their voices heard is a lot of anxiety
1:11:40
and fear. 25 year olds or more would see about a third of her
1:11:43
so
1:11:44
Adam Curry: totally printed signs. I mean, they had the
1:11:46
union boss Randy Gardner right there.
1:11:49
Unknown: They're 25 year olds and they have more wood see
1:11:51
about a third of our $70,000 student loan debt erased under
1:11:55
President Biden's forgiveness plan.
1:11:57
I feel like my life is on the line. If it doesn't get
1:12:00
canceled. She is one
1:12:01
of 43 million people eligible for some student loan debt
1:12:05
relief. Those making less than $125,000 a year could get
1:12:09
$10,000 in debt forgiven. Those with Pell Grants could get
1:12:13
$20,000 erased, but that comes at a cost nearly half a trillion
1:12:18
dollars. Critics say on an issue this big Congress has to sign
1:12:23
off the Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey is one of
1:12:26
the state Republican leaders urging the court to kill the
1:12:29
program
1:12:30
as someone who paid for my school and blood sweat and tears
1:12:33
and service to my nation. That's an issue that's near and dear to
1:12:35
my heart. I'm confident the court will reach reach the right
1:12:38
decision. A confidence
1:12:40
that was bolstered during three hours of arguments has
1:12:43
conservative justices seems skeptical that President Biden
1:12:46
could single handedly forgive student debt for 95% of
1:12:50
borrowers.
1:12:51
Adam Curry: I think most casual observers would say, Whoa, I
1:12:54
didn't know it was 95% of bar borrowers. That seemed like it
1:12:58
was a lot less last time they were talking about this 95%.
1:13:03
That's a lot.
1:13:04
Unknown: If I percent of borrowers,
1:13:06
I think most casual observers would say if you're going to
1:13:10
give up that much amount of money if you're going to affect
1:13:13
the obligations of that many Americans on a subject that's of
1:13:16
great controversy. They would think that's something for
1:13:19
Congress to act on.
1:13:20
But liberal justices said the law gave the administration
1:13:24
power to act during national emergencies like COVID,
1:13:27
there's 50 million students who are will benefit from this who
1:13:34
today will struggle.
1:13:38
But the Republican leaders who are fighting to stop the Biden
1:13:41
plan, say all that debt cancellation will cause their
1:13:44
state's money. A decision in this case is expected by the end
1:13:47
of June.
1:13:48
Adam Curry: How will it cost the state's money?
1:13:51
John C Dvorak: I have no idea. A couple of things are the guy who
1:13:56
number of observers in the market have said that this is
1:13:59
like you know, rewarding bad behavior because it was stupid
1:14:02
to take out some of these loans and people were taking them out
1:14:04
left and right and encouraged to do so. They didn't have to pay
1:14:07
for these loans during COVID. So there's that that excuse is
1:14:09
over. And supposedly we have the lowest unemployment ever so
1:14:12
people can get jobs. And making $125,000 a year should give you
1:14:17
enough leeway in most situations to start paying off the loan at
1:14:21
whatever rate that you can pay it off at. The other thing is
1:14:26
AMI that AMI Comey, Berry Kony whatever it may be Coney
1:14:30
Barrett, she's turning out to be a bad actor. Really? Yeah. She
1:14:36
wants to just the number of cases that have gone through and
1:14:40
she's always showing up as kind of on the wrong side of the
1:14:43
argument. And I'm thinking she's gonna turn out to be a bad
1:14:47
justice.
1:14:48
Adam Curry: Interesting. Interesting. Or maybe just
1:14:53
really fair, and you're biased.
1:14:54
John C Dvorak: No, no, she's not she's not being fair. Okay. I'm
1:14:58
not biased.
1:15:00
Adam Curry: You know that? That's right, straight and
1:15:03
narrow.
1:15:03
John C Dvorak: So talking about court cases.
1:15:05
Adam Curry: Wait, wait, I want to play Randy Randy wind gardens
1:15:09
outrage clip. She's Randi Weingarten. Oh, only the boss of
1:15:15
the teachers union, only one of the biggest donators to the
1:15:19
Democratic Party Democrat Party. She's outraged about what about
1:15:24
this about the student loans? Listen to her logic,
1:15:29
Unknown: and frankly, and this is what really pisses me off.
1:15:32
Joy. We understood this. Businesses were hurting, and we
1:15:38
have them go to the supreme court to challenge it. Every
1:15:44
house didn't go to the supreme court to challenge it, all of a
1:15:48
sudden, it's about our students. They challenge the corporations
1:15:54
challenge. The student loan lenders challenge it. Is that
1:15:59
right? Is that fair?
1:16:08
Adam Curry: She's pretty worked up over this.
1:16:11
John C Dvorak: There are other aspects of this that people
1:16:13
don't want to face a new would be at the benefit for the
1:16:16
state's teachers unions. But even though they don't really
1:16:19
have much impact in the university system, this will
1:16:21
just encourage tuition hikes. Yes, exactly.
1:16:26
Adam Curry: That's what it always does. So maybe it's all
1:16:28
just a gimme for Randy.
1:16:32
John C Dvorak: I mean, that would make some sense. Yeah.
1:16:35
Adam Curry: But it's gonna be they say, conservative estimates
1:16:39
half a trillion dollars, it'll probably be more Oh, it'd
1:16:41
John C Dvorak: be No. So it's gonna be over a trillion. Maybe.
1:16:44
I think it's gonna get killed, though. Because John Roberts of
1:16:47
all the people in the court are really irked about this idea
1:16:50
that Biden can do this. And
1:16:52
Adam Curry: why is it he Why does the court even get to do or
1:16:54
have to decide on this?
1:16:57
John C Dvorak: It got bumped up from some lower courts, because
1:16:59
there are some suits, and it just ended up in the Supreme
1:17:01
Court on their desk. And now they have to decide. I think
1:17:04
they I don't even know if they finalize the deciding on even
1:17:08
talking about it, because clearly, Barrett doesn't want to
1:17:10
take the case.
1:17:12
Adam Curry: Yeah, I can understand hot potato.
1:17:15
John C Dvorak: Well, what difference does it make to them?
1:17:18
Like I was watching, watching the podcast, Viva fry, that
1:17:22
Canadian guy.
1:17:23
Adam Curry: Yeah, I didn't like it at all. I know exactly. Which
1:17:25
one you watched the one about Scott. What No. Was it? It was
1:17:30
about Scott Adams. No, it's about James O'Keefe. Right,
1:17:34
Project Veritas.
1:17:37
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't have any clips on whatever that
1:17:39
what you're talking about. Oh,
1:17:41
Adam Curry: okay. So you didn't really watch the whole thing.
1:17:43
Someone gave you a clip of the end?
1:17:45
John C Dvorak: No, no, I got clips here. I watched the whole
1:17:48
thing. I may have skipped past that some of the stuff that was
1:17:50
born.
1:17:51
Adam Curry: Okay. Well, that's very possible. Now. It was a
1:17:54
whole podcast and they had a whole piece about about Project
1:17:59
Veritas in there where they literally I remember that I
1:18:02
remember. Right, where they're literally saying that this was a
1:18:06
boardroom coup, and that this is
1:18:08
John C Dvorak: they were buying they bought it right. They
1:18:10
bought into the bullshit. Big time. Yeah, so I just skipped it
1:18:15
didn't bother me. Okay. And I liked this guy, Robert Barnes.
1:18:18
But I started this is who I went to the clip for for this. This
1:18:22
is the Viva $33. No agenda plug.
1:18:25
Unknown: I don't even know what it's a $33 Rumble rant 117513.
1:18:30
If you haven't already been referred, the last two or three
1:18:33
shows of the no agenda show. The best podcast in the universe
1:18:37
have had small reports about Veritas from a high level at
1:18:41
Veritas to the show. I don't know what it means. The
1:18:46
Adam Curry: Viva fry. Every single time someone brings up no
1:18:49
agenda to him. He forgets about it. He doesn't remember.
1:18:52
Remember, the truckers thing? n a t shirt on anyway. And by the
1:18:58
way, it was Barnes is the one who was unhinged about about the
1:19:01
whole affair. Not diva. Frey was Barnes. He's the one that's all
1:19:07
like, No, this is this is the gonna be lawsuits and the board
1:19:10
is going to be taken down and like, okay,
1:19:13
John C Dvorak: oh, yeah, bar. Yeah, I can see him going that I
1:19:16
just pretty much skipped over that whole thing, because I knew
1:19:18
that I didn't know what you're talking about. No, but he has
1:19:21
some good stuff at the end that I thought was going to do a
1:19:23
little rundown. So I have a few of them here. All right. And one
1:19:27
of them includes a story that I have, and I think people should
1:19:30
I'd like to know if anyone else has done anything about this.
1:19:33
This is Robert Barnes on insurance.
1:19:36
Unknown: We have insurance companies are requiring when you
1:19:39
re up your insurance. Probably most people don't know,
1:19:42
insurance companies are secretly sharing your medical information
1:19:47
with all the other insurance companies to collude in, in my
1:19:51
view, price fix in violation of your privacy rights. What
1:19:55
happened here was they misinterpreted the person's
1:19:59
request. as having certain health problems, he did not have
1:20:02
lied to other insurers including that data in there. So he
1:20:06
couldn't get life insurance from anybody, and only found out
1:20:09
later and had to sue, but in the process outed how private
1:20:12
insurance companies are collusive ly illicitly sharing
1:20:15
your private medical information to make sure that you can't get
1:20:20
qualified insurance.
1:20:22
Adam Curry: Well, that would make sense.
1:20:25
John C Dvorak: It makes sense to me. And especially after the
1:20:27
experience I had personally do tell. So again, do a car wreck
1:20:32
years ago, on or in a rental I was in Phoenix. This is before I
1:20:36
even knew you have clearly baby. And I don't really discuss this
1:20:42
sort of thing. Rental cars to me or cars you can have fun with.
1:20:47
So I got into a wreck, and I got a ticket in Phoenix. And I
1:20:55
couldn't you know, they say you can go you can do. You can get
1:21:00
this wiped off your insurance record by taking a school in
1:21:07
driver's ed or whatever they want to call a traffic school.
1:21:10
And you have to take this course. And so I shopped around,
1:21:14
I saw do that because I don't need this aggravation. So like,
1:21:17
I signed up for the cheapest course it goes in Chinatown,
1:21:20
Oakland. So I go to this class, it's a live class. And this
1:21:24
guy's Chinese guy is good. He never really talked tells you
1:21:28
anything about driving or better driver. And he just tells you
1:21:32
all the dirty tricks that the insurance companies pull to keep
1:21:39
dirt jack up your prices. And he talks about you don't want to do
1:21:41
this, you want it and it's very educational. And then he gets to
1:21:45
the one thing that really got my attention, which was the
1:21:49
insurance companies of the automobile insurance companies
1:21:52
have a single database that they all reference. And if you start
1:21:57
buying from one insurance company and start hopping from
1:22:00
one to the other to the other to get better prices, they
1:22:03
Adam Curry: kick you out,
1:22:04
John C Dvorak: they'll kick you out and Jack your price up,
1:22:06
you'll never get insurance. And I say what, and he's going on
1:22:11
about this in some detail I'm thinking about I'm thinking
1:22:15
about how it is works in the media, because they're always
1:22:17
advertising for customers. And I suppose and get a lot of new
1:22:20
customers but to the insurance company ads for like State Farm
1:22:25
and, and mutual, progressive, progressive. They're all joke
1:22:30
commercials and not even serious. And this is buying
1:22:34
airtime the way the pharmaceutical companies do so
1:22:37
they don't get busted for anything. And so I'm thinking
1:22:40
I'm thinking about this. And so I didn't say we'd go to a lunch
1:22:45
break. And I come back and this is really a shocker. I spent
1:22:51
half the day on this course. I come back, the guy's not coming
1:22:54
back. And I'm given a chance another guy has been arrested.
1:23:02
Adam Curry: That day.
1:23:04
John C Dvorak: He was arrested right there during lunch. And as
1:23:07
somebody who stayed in the room he saw me oh yeah, they came in
1:23:10
a bunch of guys in plainclothes came in, cuffed him and walked
1:23:14
him out. Okay, I'm saying what? So they gave me a shit to go to
1:23:21
get a refund. So I don't didn't pay for the course. And I can go
1:23:25
find someplace else. And I always thought that was
1:23:27
peculiar. And I've always wanted to go back and find that guy.
1:23:31
Because I know what where he was, you know, where he worked
1:23:33
out of it and never couldn't track him down. Because that but
1:23:36
that's what this reminded me of a collusion between his
1:23:40
insurance companies and it working. And again, the media
1:23:43
doesn't investigate anything. And it's just the scams around
1:23:47
us are outrageous. And
1:23:49
Adam Curry: excellent use of the word cit. I don't think anyone
1:23:52
knows what that is anymore.
1:23:56
John C Dvorak: Yeah, shit.
1:23:57
Adam Curry: I love a chip on it. I love a good chip. I did want
1:24:01
to say about just going back previously to the Viva fry 33
1:24:05
mentioned, I appreciate that the producer went through that
1:24:08
trouble to do that. What was kind of disappointing though, is
1:24:13
I got a lot of messages. Hey, Barnes law, Viva Viva fried.
1:24:17
They mentioned no agenda. They mentioned no agenda. And like,
1:24:20
Oh, that's cool. I wonder how you know, it was in response to
1:24:24
the whole Project Veritas, and then you get to it. It's like,
1:24:27
John C Dvorak: oh, we don't know what that is for mentioned. It's
1:24:29
like an ad.
1:24:32
Adam Curry: It was a little bit. Even though the intention, of
1:24:34
course is great. I appreciate it. It was disappointing. It was
1:24:37
a letdown. Like, they don't even know who we are.
1:24:44
John C Dvorak: They don't this is true.
1:24:46
Adam Curry: I was like, Oh, okay. I thought like no, there's
1:24:48
no date, no agenda had the executive director on here's
1:24:51
what he said no, no. Instead, he's like, Oh, I don't know what
1:24:54
ITM means. Okay. Yeah, not that I don't know. Not that I don't
1:24:59
appreciate the Add someone put in there but there's just no
1:25:02
good again, people and people who say that you were mentioned
1:25:05
you were mentioned so often is like one of these like I wasn't
1:25:08
really mentioned. No, just you know, someone else mentioned
1:25:12
John C Dvorak: I say no, no, exactly.
1:25:16
Adam Curry: All right, what else from this fabulous podcast who
1:25:18
don't even know so you're going to talk about what do we have?
1:25:22
John C Dvorak: There's a couple as he's making push them. One of
1:25:24
them. I'll skip and I want to this is kind of interesting. The
1:25:29
White Castle clip I found amusing
1:25:34
Unknown: a big biometric case out of Illinois, Illinois has
1:25:37
its own biometric privacy laws that says if they take your
1:25:40
biometric data, your bio identification data you know,
1:25:44
facial identification, fingerprints, etc, that they can
1:25:47
only do it with your consent, and they can't they can only
1:25:50
share it with your consent. Well White Castle was taking
1:25:53
employees fingerprints without their consent, requiring it in
1:25:57
order to get their paychecks and then sharing it with third
1:26:00
parties without their consent.
1:26:02
This is White Castle the burger place Yeah. Oh my god Harold and
1:26:06
Kumar Go to White Castle I'll never well I'm Boyka I'm going
1:26:09
to burn my DVD is not as
1:26:11
good as Crystal crystal is from Chattanooga. Great little
1:26:13
crystal burgers. Samuel Jackson made his first a thin good good
1:26:16
Midnight Run. I'm not saying they're healthy. They're not
1:26:19
famous Miller organic farm.com healthy, but you know the
1:26:24
burgers but they establish Illinois Supreme Court
1:26:27
established that each time they do it is its own violation. So
1:26:32
White Castle is going to be writing up be pretty soon.
1:26:37
John C Dvorak: Okay, what do you fingerprint your employees?
1:26:42
Unknown: I don't know.
1:26:45
Adam Curry: Why did we have to listen to Barnes and Frey talk
1:26:47
about it was what I want to know.
1:26:50
John C Dvorak: Well, it was a minute and one second out of
1:26:53
your life that you'll never get back.
1:26:55
Adam Curry: I know. I know. Especially since they don't even
1:26:57
know who we are. Why do we spend any more time on them? They
1:27:01
don't love us.
1:27:05
John C Dvorak: So here's a clip I get out of the blue. What is
1:27:07
curry?
1:27:10
Adam Curry: Okay, let's see what this is. What is curry? Is this
1:27:15
like a chat? GPT question or what is this? What is curry?
1:27:19
What is it? Okay. All right.
1:27:23
John C Dvorak: I got the answer. Curry entity.
1:27:25
Unknown: Korea entity. Curry is an entity.
1:27:31
John C Dvorak: Where then hold on is
1:27:33
Adam Curry: it again? Curry is an entity. It's just curious to
1:27:37
me entity.
1:27:37
John C Dvorak: What is it? It is an entity?
1:27:40
Adam Curry: Who is purely is one who is this? Who was speaking
1:27:44
John C Dvorak: to get an expert on curry. Okay. All right. And
1:27:49
then curry what Tina says.
1:27:52
Adam Curry: Curry is a dish. Oh man. Am I supposed to be hearing
1:27:58
douche instead of dish? Is that is that? Is that the idea? You
1:28:02
sunk into a new low really, it's I can't believe let me help you
1:28:07
get into some good clips because I saw that you have them. So
1:28:10
let's start with my one of my favorite topics, which is of
1:28:15
course because we know the real directed energy weapons. We've
1:28:18
got
1:28:18
Unknown: new findings to report on the mysterious ailment called
1:28:20
Havana syndrome affecting us officials stationed abroad. Now
1:28:24
it's the result of a multi year investigation conducted by five
1:28:27
separate agencies. Senior investigative correspondent as
1:28:30
Catherine herridge has been following. Again, Catherine what
1:28:34
they find a girl
1:28:35
Good morning Gail, the agencies found that it's very unlikely
1:28:38
that mysterious neurological symptoms known as Havana
1:28:41
syndrome, are the result of actions by a foreign adversary.
1:28:44
In a comprehensive review, investigators examined more than
1:28:47
1500 reported cases, Symptoms range from dizziness, headaches
1:28:52
and memory loss to cognitive impairments so severe that some
1:28:55
victims say they can no longer work. The new intelligence
1:28:58
report concluded it's very unlikely a foreign adversary
1:29:01
played a role and there is no credible evidence that a foreign
1:29:04
adversary has a weapon. The intelligence agencies also
1:29:08
assess that symptoms were probably the result of factors
1:29:11
that did not involve a foreign adversary such as pre existing
1:29:14
conditions, conventional illnesses and environmental
1:29:17
factors. The Defense Department is running its own investigation
1:29:20
until victims scale that work continues.
1:29:25
John C Dvorak: Notice any theme in that little clip
1:29:29
Adam Curry: go ahead foreign this is exactly what I thought
1:29:33
it's like well it's not from foreigners is no it's not the
1:29:36
Russians not the Chinese but we might have done it to you.
1:29:39
That's what that was my takeaway.
1:29:41
John C Dvorak: That's my take away.
1:29:42
Adam Curry: What are your clips? Let's listen to them.
1:29:45
John C Dvorak: Number two,
1:29:47
Adam Curry: what Havana syndrome to Yeah,
1:29:49
Unknown: how are they responding?
1:29:50
Well, they're very disappointed is as you may expect. Wait.
1:29:54
John C Dvorak: Where did you play that? The Harris clip you
1:29:56
got that from CBS? Yeah, there was my own closure, the NPR
1:29:59
clip. So let's go Those have vanished syndrome one,
1:30:01
Unknown: the US intelligence community has concluded that a
1:30:04
foreign country was not responsible for the so called
1:30:08
Havana syndrome cases involving US officials working overseas.
1:30:13
Now this finding comes as a disappointment US diplomats and
1:30:16
intelligence officials who believe they suffered attacks
1:30:20
and are still dealing with serious ailments. And poor
1:30:23
NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT Greg Miry. has been following
1:30:25
this closely. He's here now. Hey, Greg. I'm here, Louise. Hi,
1:30:30
Mary Louise Havana syndrome. I've named that because cases
1:30:33
were first reported in Cuba back in 2016. Does the intelligence
1:30:38
community now believe they know what happened? Well, not
1:30:43
exactly. I think it would be more precise to say the
1:30:45
intelligence community is pretty sure of what didn't happen in
1:30:48
Cuba and several other countries. There it is. This
1:30:51
report is the work of seven different US intelligence
1:30:54
agencies. And they're pretty sure that no foreign adversary
1:30:58
like Cuba, Russia or China is responsible. five of the seven
1:31:03
agencies said it was highly unlikely that a foreign country
1:31:06
was to blame. One said it was unlikely and one didn't take a
1:31:10
position. Now the report goes on to say that there's no credible
1:31:14
evidence that a foreign adversary even has a weapon that
1:31:18
could have inflicted this kind of harm.
1:31:20
This goes against what many people suspected, including a
1:31:24
lot of intelligence officers and diplomats, I have interviewed
1:31:27
who suffered from something and suffer ailments now how are they
1:31:31
responding?
1:31:32
Adam Curry: Here's here's what I don't understand. They bought
1:31:35
these people off. They were supposed to shut up. The we had
1:31:41
the little disgust helping American victims afflicted by
1:31:45
neurological attacks, the Havana act. So a mess so creative.
1:31:52
Helping American victims afflicted by neurological
1:31:54
attacks, was signed in October 2021. That gave employees over
1:32:03
$180,000 each. There were bought off I need to shut up. I don't
1:32:13
understand why that why this is not solved yet. Maybe not
1:32:16
everyone took the deal. Or
1:32:18
John C Dvorak: no, I don't think I thought this you're quoting
1:32:20
this guy was from when the when these reports first came out? I
1:32:23
think they have shut up.
1:32:25
Unknown: Interesting. But what they're
1:32:27
John C Dvorak: doing now is they're still trying to still
1:32:29
trying to explain it or something. And they come up with
1:32:32
this bullcrap. And this next clip, which makes it even they
1:32:35
dig a deeper hole.
1:32:37
Unknown: How are they responding?
1:32:38
Well, they're very disappointed is as you may expect, they
1:32:41
remain convinced they suffered an attack. They've speculated it
1:32:45
was possibly some kind of energy weapon, maybe a microwave
1:32:48
device. But they acknowledge they don't have proof. Many
1:32:52
Adam Curry: recall the exists directed energy weapon you do.
1:32:55
Let's get it right that
1:32:56
Unknown: moment when they suffered a sharp piercing pain
1:32:59
in their head, which caused them to be dizzy or nauseous or
1:33:03
suffer migraine headaches. They say they'd never had these
1:33:07
problems before. And now they've had them for years. I've been in
1:33:11
contact with two of them who didn't want to speak on the
1:33:14
record. But I spoke with attorney Mark Zaid, he's
1:33:17
representing more than two dozen clients and says he has had
1:33:21
access to some of the classified information.
1:33:24
I can at least say the US government has a lot more
1:33:27
information than what it is publicly revealing today. And
1:33:32
that is where a lot of the unanswered questions arise from
1:33:37
so on, looked at two intelligence officials briefed a
1:33:40
small number of journalist on this report, but they didn't
1:33:43
share the contents of the actual report itself. Because that's
1:33:47
still classified. Yeah,
1:33:49
Adam Curry: she ah, hold on thought here. Since I mean, we
1:33:53
may be witnessing an FBI CIA knockout draw ball Brawl here.
1:33:59
You know, we have FBI, the one saying, Well, you know, it's
1:34:05
pretty obvious COVID came from a lab we hear CIA immediately
1:34:08
countering that. Maybe because the CIA is the one who used
1:34:12
directed energy weapons on our own State Department personnel.
1:34:16
Maybe the FBI is the one that's getting this this back into the
1:34:19
news, because it could be the age old war.
1:34:23
John C Dvorak: Well, this age old war is interesting to me
1:34:26
because of this one TV show that came out a couple of years ago,
1:34:29
which one and Dick Wolf came over to? I guess it was CBS and
1:34:35
he started this or, or that or NBC. He started this new series
1:34:41
instead of law and order this natus FBI. So he started one
1:34:44
with the FBI and just FBI became right then it became an FBI
1:34:49
International, which was a second show and add a third show
1:34:53
which was FBI Simelane
1:34:56
Adam Curry: International. Isn't that an oxymoron?
1:34:59
John C Dvorak: Yeah, FBI internationals above the FBI, a
1:35:03
team of FBI people that are stationed overseas and they do
1:35:07
investigations overseas like like to see it. Don't even like
1:35:10
to say there's just spooks, the FBI When did FBI internet and I
1:35:15
think this was the soften up to public to come up with the show
1:35:17
FBI International. FBI International is a mysterious
1:35:23
show. Why is it exist? And what in what When did FBI become an
1:35:28
international operation? And you start seeing the FBI was brought
1:35:32
in, I think the FBI was brought in for this Syrian gas canister
1:35:36
attack or whatever it was, if you remember, the FBI is now in
1:35:40
you know, they're doing the job of the CIA.
1:35:43
Adam Curry: So FBI International was indeed on CBS.
1:35:47
John C Dvorak: Tokyo, CBS still on the interesting because it
1:35:51
hasn't been taken off. That's the CIA
1:35:53
Adam Curry: broadcast network. I find this very distressing now.
1:35:57
Well, I don't pretty okay, so Well, the BBC has a pretty good
1:36:02
rundown before we go, let's
1:36:03
John C Dvorak: get that third clip out of the way. Okay.
1:36:05
Unknown: And so in a way, it remains as much of a mystery as
1:36:07
it ever was. I mean, if it wasn't a foreign government, if
1:36:10
no electronic weapon was used, then what caused these injuries?
1:36:14
Well, the intelligence official said the individual cases vary,
1:36:17
but collectively, they were probably pre existing medical
1:36:21
conditions, conventional illness, or environmental
1:36:26
factors. The intelligence official said they didn't find
1:36:30
what they were looking for that a foreign adversary was behind
1:36:33
this. But they did learn a lot of things they weren't looking
1:36:36
for, for example, a faulty air conditioning system or heating
1:36:40
system can cause changes to room pressure, and this could cause
1:36:44
headaches. And so as they were investigating, they they came
1:36:49
across things like weapons dealers and drugs dealers near
1:36:52
the scene. But again, nothing that linked anybody to to the
1:36:57
ailments that these US officials suffered.
1:37:00
Still so many questions and not a lot of answers. I'm curious.
1:37:03
Greg Murray. Thank you,
1:37:04
Adam Curry: like you MPR for delivering nothing. Okay, the
1:37:08
BBC has a pretty good rundown. I guess they saw the documents
1:37:12
about this. And there's some telling information in this
1:37:17
report from them. The victims have included intelligence
1:37:19
officers. We haven't heard that have we? Military and State
1:37:25
Department staff and high level aides to government figures such
1:37:29
as vice president Kamala Harris. Of the seven participating
1:37:34
agencies of which no report mentions which ones they are?
1:37:40
Five, and they're 17. I think, five agreed that, quote,
1:37:44
available intelligence consistently points against the
1:37:47
involvement of us adversaries in causing reported incidents, and
1:37:52
that it is, quote, very unlikely. So again, the you
1:37:57
know, it wasn't any any foreign. No, has anyone foreign levels of
1:38:02
competence between participating agencies, however, vary, the
1:38:05
report noted that two agencies have moderate to high confidence
1:38:08
in the assessment, while three have moderate confidence, quote,
1:38:12
One Agency judges, it is only unlikely a foreign adversary
1:38:16
played a role. And as only low competence in this judgment. I'm
1:38:21
telling you that there's zappin each other.
1:38:26
John C Dvorak: Well, let's see, let's look at it from that
1:38:28
perspective. You're somebody in the agency or somebody, you're
1:38:32
an assistant to somebody else, and you're getting out a line,
1:38:34
Adam Curry: Jeff zap that bitch.
1:38:40
John C Dvorak: And you see what happened, then you go to some
1:38:41
sec, what happened to so and so right is just sleeping in a room
1:38:45
at the hotel, just there by themselves.
1:38:49
Adam Curry: Wow. An assessment like this is an assessment based
1:38:53
on the best information available to us at any time.
1:38:55
This is net price at any new information will be factored
1:38:59
into future assessments about the disease. Now it's a disease
1:39:02
all of a sudden. But when you have when you pass a bill called
1:39:07
the helping American victims afflicted by neurological
1:39:10
attacks, the Havana act, you know, when you name it, that
1:39:14
you've pretty much concluded that it was a neurological
1:39:17
attack. So I really think this is the, you know, we have 1716
1:39:24
or 17 intelligence agencies in the intelligence community, and
1:39:28
they're duking it out. The CIA is downplaying the, you know, is
1:39:33
downplaying China problems, you know, in certain regards. FBI is
1:39:39
is is hyping him up we have the savannah syndrome on on, you
1:39:44
know, she had moment, we're not being told which agencies think
1:39:48
it wasn't such a big deal. We're being told by others clearly.
1:39:52
Well, it was probably from our own people doing that. And then
1:39:56
when you hear that it was intelligence agents and high
1:40:00
ranking officials of including the Vice President, there may be
1:40:04
something bigger going on behind the scenes here. And it's big
1:40:10
enough for people off the record to be telling NPR Oh, this you
1:40:15
got to do the story on this and they get nothing out of it. So
1:40:18
why is it even a story? It must be because they're trying.
1:40:21
They're trying to Duke this out. I'd leave it at that for now. I
1:40:25
meant that really seems like that's what's happening.
1:40:30
John C Dvorak: Well, there's no other explanation. That's that
1:40:33
makes sense. Why we know these agencies are always kind of
1:40:36
going after each other a little bit. Yeah. For the money, not
1:40:40
just for the money, but for the you know, the influence. Of
1:40:44
course,
1:40:46
Adam Curry: maybe maybe the CIA is pissed off. Hey, why does FBI
1:40:50
get an international TV series from Dick Wolf? Screw that,
1:40:54
where we want to show
1:40:57
John C Dvorak: now that you brought this on CBS makes you
1:41:00
wonder?
1:41:00
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. And CBS did it.
1:41:04
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Why was CBS put that on the air? Maybe
1:41:09
that's what really irked him.
1:41:12
Adam Curry: It's irksome enough.
1:41:13
John C Dvorak: Okay. You guys are working for us. What do you
1:41:16
do in here? Yeah, it just will kick wolf makes money. Yeah.
1:41:21
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Oh, he knows how to do it. A quick,
1:41:24
some feedback on pod fasting. This is my plea to our listeners
1:41:30
to not listen to podcasts at anything above the 1.0 speed.
1:41:34
And it's not about us, by the way. It's about your family and
1:41:37
the people around you who you love, love. Love them by
1:41:41
retreat. And
1:41:43
John C Dvorak: a good note came in a couple of good notes. What
1:41:45
Adam Curry: did you get from from Andras? I don't have it in
1:41:49
front of me. Andre says Hi, gents, after listening to the
1:41:52
latest episode hearing about variable speed causing people to
1:41:55
be short with wife and kids as well as anxiety. I have changed
1:41:59
back to one times at 1.0 times on all just after one day, I can
1:42:04
feel the difference. It's interesting. You bullied me into
1:42:08
it. And I'm grateful. We did. And then I got an explanation
1:42:14
from Dean because I said, you know, why do you? Most people
1:42:18
say hey, you know what? You're right. I'm back to regular 1.0
1:42:22
speed on no agenda. But I still listen at high speed to other
1:42:25
podcasts. And I said why? Why Why would is just because I
1:42:29
asked, or what is the reason that you have these other
1:42:33
podcasts at high speed? And the answer was very consistent. When
1:42:38
it's done poorly, and no one's done properly. You know, a good
1:42:42
podcast, I listened at normal speed. But some people on these
1:42:46
podcasts speak so slowly, I'm falling asleep in between every
1:42:49
other word. They constantly repeat themselves, and they
1:42:52
ramble on about crap, completely unrelated to the topic. And they
1:42:57
are they're selling some stuff. And, you know, it's like, they
1:43:00
just don't get to the point. And my question is always the same.
1:43:04
Why are you listening to it? Why? And it's not news or
1:43:13
deconstruction. It's no, it's
1:43:16
John C Dvorak: just guys gabbing it's just people gabbing Yeah,
1:43:20
dipshits gabbing.
1:43:23
Adam Curry: It doesn't sound healthy.
1:43:27
John C Dvorak: You know, people love podcasts.
1:43:29
Adam Curry: They really do. But, I mean, there there are people
1:43:33
who wake up and boom, the earbuds are in, it's on high
1:43:36
speeds, I can get all kinds of information. And meanwhile,
1:43:40
they're, you know, they're scrolling on tick tock, you've
1:43:42
got telegram stuff to take a look at. Oh, let's follow we
1:43:46
gotta follow all that telegram is so bad. This conspiracy
1:43:51
conspiracy theories in there that I won't even touch. Like,
1:43:53
are you crazy? I mean, anyway, I can't affect that. But I can, I
1:44:02
can try and save your sanity, particularly with the people
1:44:07
around you, many who you love. You might not love your kids.
1:44:11
But I realize there's enough evidence that you get fed up and
1:44:16
antsy and you can't wait for someone in real life to get to
1:44:20
the point because you're used to everything being sped up so much
1:44:24
that it should be illegal really. should be illegal.
1:44:27
should be should be illegal to be illegal.
1:44:32
John C Dvorak: So I'm listening to CNBC. Okay, it's kind of my
1:44:36
beat. But yeah, what you got? It is your beat. I imagine they're
1:44:40
out of the blue they give this a news story is a 92nd clip.
1:44:46
native ad is a native ad on CNBC for Shake Shack
1:44:50
Unknown: and Shake Shack is set to introduce a new menu item
1:44:53
later this week. The fast food chain plans to unveil a limited
1:44:56
edition fine dining inspired white truffle menu by featuring
1:45:00
a burger and fries with a white truffle sauce. The CEO said he
1:45:04
hopes to have the menu in place for two to three months,
1:45:07
depending on demand.
1:45:10
John C Dvorak: The kind of news well, it's financial news you
1:45:15
somebody changes their menu is not news
1:45:19
Adam Curry: for the financial channel is like alright, we're
1:45:22
so desperate to get people to eat more of our crap. What can
1:45:25
we do? I know put some white crap on it. Call it truffle.
1:45:30
Let's be honest truth. What would a white truffle actual
1:45:33
shavings of a truffle cost on an on a burger?
1:45:39
John C Dvorak: Well, if there were actual shavings of an
1:45:40
actual white truffle be at least $1 Shave. Exactly.
1:45:46
Adam Curry: So so whatever, they're whatever they're pouring
1:45:49
onto your burger. Whatever white sauce I would be wearing
1:45:53
official or SCA force is going to be artificial. Like probably
1:45:57
like most of the ingredients that are in the burger. No.
1:46:03
John C Dvorak: Well, on the topic of artificial
1:46:05
Adam Curry: Yes. Is it time to talk about Scott Adams? Um, so
1:46:08
John C Dvorak: I don't have any Scott Adams clips. Oh, I do. But
1:46:10
I do have information, man. But I wanted to play this clip. Just
1:46:16
Camela tell me what she says here and what and then check it
1:46:19
out.
1:46:21
Adam Curry: Oh, my Where's cow camel. Okay, here we go.
1:46:24
Unknown: So I want to just now do a public service announcement
1:46:27
and I need all the leaders here to help me. Okay. Okay. To check
1:46:31
if you qualify for the ACP Look at your neighbor. If you
1:46:39
qualify, go to get internet.gov to check if you qualify go to
1:46:47
internet.gov.
1:46:49
Adam Curry: Yeah, okay. So I don't know what the ACP is. But
1:46:55
I can type in check. internet.gov which she then said
1:47:00
something Okay, check that
1:47:01
John C Dvorak: said just internet.gov. Yeah, which will
1:47:04
check you know, such site. She doesn't know what she's talking
1:47:07
about. She's a lunatic check. internet.gov
1:47:09
Adam Curry: is not a site. internet.gov is not a site. What
1:47:13
is the ACP and as
1:47:17
John C Dvorak: some think is some one of those systems where
1:47:19
you get money back for having something to do with COVID?
1:47:22
Perhaps?
1:47:23
Adam Curry: Well, instead of just sounding like every other
1:47:26
podcasts, I've consulted the book of knowledge. ACP is access
1:47:32
to high speed internet. This is the affordable connectivity
1:47:36
program.
1:47:37
John C Dvorak: Oh, good. Which provides that's an obvious you'd
1:47:40
go to internet.gov.
1:47:42
Adam Curry: That's right, which provides $65 billion, billion
1:47:45
dollars to provide internet for all you will kind of wonder if
1:47:49
Elon Musk is getting a piece of that.
1:47:52
John C Dvorak: It was his government money. And so she
1:47:54
Adam Curry: said opposer is always wrong in two cases. Let's
1:47:57
rewind it.
1:48:01
Unknown: Go to get internet.gov
1:48:04
Adam Curry: That's the one it is get internet.gov. Yes, that is a
1:48:08
real site.
1:48:09
Unknown: To check. If you qualify, go to internet.gov.
1:48:12
Adam Curry: That is not a real site. Get internet.gov. Claim
1:48:16
your affordable connectivity program benefit. Learn how
1:48:20
President Biden and vice president hairs are reducing the
1:48:22
cost of high speed internet and find out if you qualify to sign
1:48:26
up. Okay, how can you qualify? Household Income Internet
1:48:33
Service Providers low income plan or government assistance
1:48:35
program? Oh, nice. So I wonder who this goes to T Mobile. Now.
1:48:41
Elon,
1:48:43
John C Dvorak: T Mobile AT and T is gonna be like Comcast for
1:48:47
Comcast.
1:48:47
Adam Curry: Yeah. Hmm. All right. So Scott Adams. He, he's
1:48:58
really trying to prove a point. And from what I understand,
1:49:03
well, first of all, we know that he's always manipulating people
1:49:06
he's always doing, you know, I'm sorry. What's his term? Not
1:49:10
influencing influence. No, no, no, no, no, no, it's another day
1:49:14
says persuasion Persuasion. Persuasion. Because you know,
1:49:19
he's a, he's a hypnotist, a trained hypnotist. He's so he
1:49:22
believes. I think he believes he could persuade people to see
1:49:26
that the media is racist, and that they're just racist against
1:49:30
everybody. And now they're very racist against white people.
1:49:34
John C Dvorak: Fine people,
1:49:35
Adam Curry: very fine people. And to do this, he set up a
1:49:39
gambit. And the gambit was okay, I'm going to make sure that I
1:49:43
say something really inflammatory. But without the
1:49:46
context of what I was saying, it'll be just like the very fine
1:49:50
people hoax. And so what is what is interesting is that even
1:49:54
though he and he went on Hotep and he says, Look, I'm really a
1:49:57
lefty. I, I believe that black lives matter. until I found out
1:50:00
it was a grift it was a scam and they really didn't want any help
1:50:04
from me. He's He's done all kinds of things throughout his
1:50:09
and privately apparently. So he feels that he is a lefty, which
1:50:14
may also be some bullcrap thing he's made up, and and he was
1:50:19
prognosticating. I'm gonna get cancelled because he wanted to
1:50:21
get cancelled to prove the point. And I guess somehow, you
1:50:25
know, retired Dilbert or or move that into some incredibly profit
1:50:29
profitable venture with locals. Fine. So I don't think is this
1:50:37
was packing unpacking the way he wanted it to. And the reason why
1:50:42
I think that is because I went to my favorite hate listen, you
1:50:46
know, the woman who you trained yourself, but go ahead, Kara
1:50:49
Swisher and Scott Galloway, to hear what their take was on
1:50:55
Scott Adams. These are, of course, highly skilled.
1:50:59
Journalists, Kara Swisher feels she is very smart, that she
1:51:03
knows everything about everybody and that she is an actual
1:51:06
journalist. And and she should mention trained by John C.
1:51:09
Dvorak in some of her podcasting, mannerisms, and this
1:51:16
must be very disappointing to Scott to hear how they hate him.
1:51:21
I mean, hate him.
1:51:25
Unknown: Listen to this, click. I'm two minds of this. And the
1:51:28
definition of intelligence, according to Scott Fitzgerald,
1:51:32
is to have two kind of contrary thoughts in your mind at the
1:51:34
same time, and
1:51:34
Adam Curry: just so we know. Yeah, Scott Galloway is
1:51:37
brilliant, just so you know, he's just love this setup. Just
1:51:42
so you know, I have I'm of two minds of this. And that's the
1:51:44
definition of intelligence. So I'm really intelligent. And
1:51:47
here's my opinion,
1:51:48
Unknown: like, I'm two minds of this. And the definition of
1:51:52
intelligence, according to Scott Fitzgerald, is to have two kind
1:51:56
of contrary thoughts in your mind at the same time, and I'm
1:51:58
sort of, like I ultimately come down on the place that a
1:52:02
newspaper gets to make editorial decisions. That's correct. We
1:52:05
live in an age where your off camera behavior can impact
1:52:08
people's perception of your on camera work.
1:52:10
Adam Curry: So they don't even really realize that this was on
1:52:13
camera or something. I don't know. They're talking about
1:52:16
Dilbert being cancelled from all these newspapers. And so they're
1:52:19
trying to kind of rationalize that, but don't worry, it'll get
1:52:22
pretty, pretty dark pretty soon.
1:52:24
Unknown: And he is always finding reasons for why, you
1:52:30
know, Black Lives Matter movement was wrong. And when he
1:52:33
comes out it makes a blanket statement like black people are
1:52:35
a hate group.
1:52:36
He said White people shouldn't it shouldn't be we around them
1:52:39
and should we should avoid each other was
1:52:42
you lost a brother?
1:52:44
I know he's done that a lot. He goes off the D he's done that to
1:52:46
me. Exact same thing.
1:52:47
Adam Curry: So hold us personalises he's done that to
1:52:49
me. I mean, already, they do it to her. She has no example of
1:52:55
that she's you know, if you don't bow to Kara Swisher You're
1:52:59
an asshole. Believe me. This is what how she thinks of people.
1:53:02
These are of course the liberal intellectual elite. The lies
1:53:05
Unknown: very smart. But man, it's not that good. Scott is not
1:53:09
not the other Scott, not you. You know what? It's good, but
1:53:13
you're not fucking that good. And by the way, you're a racist.
1:53:16
I'm sorry. It's just there's just like, I don't use that term
1:53:19
lightly. But honestly,
1:53:22
Adam Curry: I don't use that term lightly go out of
1:53:24
Unknown: your way. He actually you know what, you're you're an
1:53:26
asshole. That's what you you know, you he does, he goes out
1:53:30
of his way to tweak people to get a to promote reaction to
1:53:34
make people angry, this guy goes out of his way to be an asshole.
1:53:39
And if the newspapers want to dump them for saying stupid
1:53:42
things, more of it, as far as I'm concerned, they can put
1:53:45
whoever they want in their patients.
1:53:47
But in this instance, he's a very wealthy man. He's going to
1:53:50
be just fine. And he has been like, poking the bear here for a
1:53:55
long, long time he wants to, and he doesn't want to have
1:53:58
solutions. He doesn't want to talk thoughtfully about it. He
1:54:01
wants to make to kind of incendiary comments to inflame
1:54:05
the dialogue and make it less productive bomb thrower have no
1:54:08
use to supporting Kanye. He has a lot of weight. He's a huge
1:54:12
Elon sent
1:54:15
him. You saw
1:54:16
he's one of those people that will throw himself in front of
1:54:19
anybody who says anything about Elon.
1:54:20
I know. So look, brains, called Scott Adams. I'll tell you you
1:54:26
got a good brain too bad.
1:54:28
The natural arc of his career, and I don't, he's a brilliant,
1:54:32
he's a brilliant animator. He's made a shit ton of money. He's
1:54:35
had a lot of influence. He said consistently, things that are
1:54:39
not productive, and even borderline hateful. And I don't
1:54:43
like to use that word a lot. Because it's like if you just
1:54:46
take all of these frames. I think you've got to take the
1:54:49
full 35 frames of a person's life.
1:54:52
Adam Curry: This is the part I love. Yeah, you got to take the
1:54:54
full 35 frames of a film memo it's 24 frames is 35 millimeter
1:55:00
film, but it's 24 frames, not 35 frames,
1:55:04
Unknown: not only to use that word a lot, because it's like if
1:55:07
you just take all of these frames of a film, I think you
1:55:09
got to take the full 35 frames of a person's life. And if you
1:55:14
found the whole they've tried to advance the rights of people,
1:55:17
and they're generally consistent and thoughtful and they fuck up.
1:55:21
Okay, you you cut him some slack. And one of the things I
1:55:23
don't like sometimes is people say, That's it. One strike,
1:55:26
you're out. That's not the case here.
1:55:29
Adam Curry: I mean, that must be heartbreaking. This guy to hear
1:55:32
this. If he's truly a lefty. And then there's hatred. Now, I
1:55:38
John C Dvorak: can tell you a couple things. One, he doesn't
1:55:40
vote. But he's kind of a political. And so yeah, he's
1:55:49
probably leans he would lean a little bit left. Maybe. I'm just
1:55:53
Adam Curry: telling you why. He said this. He said it loud and
1:55:56
clear on Hotep. I'm a lefty. That's what he said his word.
1:55:59
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Well, it doesn't mean he means it. Oh,
1:56:02
okay. Well,
1:56:03
Adam Curry: there you go.
1:56:05
John C Dvorak: He said, I contacted him. He says not to
1:56:09
worry about what's going on. He's playing a long game.
1:56:12
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's what I thought. Do you think he can
1:56:14
pull it off? No, me? Neither. Did you say hey, you can't pull
1:56:20
it off?
1:56:21
John C Dvorak: No, I didn't say that. You're just playing the
1:56:24
long game. I don't know. I don't know if he can pull it off or
1:56:26
not really. But it just seems like the situation is such that
1:56:31
it's going to be tough. And I noticed that what what was kind
1:56:34
of annoying to me was the newspapers that cut off the
1:56:37
Dilbert cartoon. And so I'm reading this one article, and
1:56:41
they talked about the Chronicle edit guy over here in San
1:56:45
Francisco, the editor of the Chronicle, which is a Hearst
1:56:48
paper has been dropping him loves to rep it to her score.
1:56:51
Bridges seems to be getting very woke. And they said, Oh, we
1:56:58
canceled his just strip and by the way, he's a cartoonist, not
1:57:03
an animator, like Galloway said, yeah, you mentioned that he's
1:57:07
not an animator. He says y'all know he cut him off because he
1:57:12
was going off the deep end with right wing conspiracy stuff.
1:57:14
Right and, and I think the example was the was his ear is
1:57:19
which are funny. His ESG cartoons. Scott did an ESG
1:57:25
cartoon where they hire a black guy identifies as white so that
1:57:35
screws their ESG up and so they get in another meeting and
1:57:38
another cartoonist tries to convince the black guy well, if
1:57:42
at least can you identify as gay get our ESG score up. That kind
1:57:53
of thing with Noi. I'm editors of some organizations and I
1:57:58
think the Chronicle would be one of them. Well, I wonder
1:58:01
Adam Curry: how long it will last until YouTube blows him
1:58:04
off. Once he's off. YouTube is going to be hard. This is what I
1:58:08
think he's he's he's underestimating.
1:58:11
John C Dvorak: Yes, he's really actually does I believe I'm he
1:58:14
do believe. I do believe I do believe that. He thinks he can
1:58:20
survive at that level on rumble and locals.
1:58:24
Adam Curry: Well, he can survive doing nothing for the rest of
1:58:26
his life. I mean, I think he probably has hundreds of
1:58:28
millions of dollars.
1:58:30
John C Dvorak: But I just thought it was like disgraceful
1:58:32
that his agent quit him what? Agents but with no hearts or
1:58:38
souls, not all of us
1:58:41
Adam Curry: know. The agents don't want to lose the other
1:58:44
clients. That's why they have to like let them go. Because
1:58:48
clients be like, you represent Scott Adams, you're fired. Now
1:58:51
agents are all about themselves. So that does why anyway, I wish
1:58:57
him well on the long game. I'll give Kara Swisher this he all he
1:59:01
does is manipulate people all it's always a game to him. So
1:59:06
good luck from zero and
1:59:09
John C Dvorak: we'll get to watch it. And
1:59:11
Adam Curry: no, we want that problem. We won't get to watch
1:59:14
John C Dvorak: less. You got well, we got Rumble. Rumble
1:59:18
Adam Curry: rumble. All right. COVID. Just a few few things.
1:59:22
Keep everybody in line with what's going on. There was some
1:59:26
testimony in congress this past week and the head of the CDC
1:59:32
walensky. She testified about the reason that COVID vaccines
1:59:38
were put on the children's schedule now according to the
1:59:42
man who literally wrote the book, Robert Kennedy Jr. The
1:59:47
reason for this is once you get it on the schedule, then you
1:59:51
know your immunity is good forever your immunity from being
1:59:54
sued. You don't have to have anything under emergency laws.
1:59:59
You're or you're you're in the program, you'll always get
2:00:02
money. It's a long term thing is what you want is what you want.
2:00:08
And will MC gives a very different explanation. So
2:00:11
Unknown: how do you view the cost benefit of scheduling brand
2:00:14
new by valen booster shots for this age group, you know,
2:00:16
considering the children are very low risk from COVID 19 75%
2:00:21
of children have already copped a virus and the vaccine is known
2:00:24
to do pretty little to prevent transmission in this age group.
2:00:27
I'm really grateful that you asked that question so that I
2:00:30
can correct the record here so that everybody understands.
2:00:32
First of all, we've had 2000 pediatric deaths from COVID 19.
2:00:35
It's the number one respiratory and infectious killer that was
2:00:38
just published last week in JAMA. So less, in fact, less
2:00:42
deadly than in to an 80 year old but still deadly for a pediatric
2:00:46
infection. The important thing, I think that's really that we
2:00:48
need to recognize is the reason that ACP recommended and CDC put
2:00:52
forward getting the COVID-19 vaccine on the pediatric
2:00:56
schedule is not it was only because it was it was the only
2:01:00
way it could be covered in our vaccines for children's program.
2:01:02
It was the only way that our under uninsured children would
2:01:05
be able to have access to the vaccines. That was the reason to
2:01:08
put it on the schedule. It can't be eligible for vaccines for
2:01:11
children's program for to be available to the under uninsured
2:01:15
unless it is on that schedule. That was the reason to put it
2:01:18
there. Thank you for allowing me to crack.
2:01:20
Adam Curry: Wow, what a what a bunch of crap that
2:01:24
John C Dvorak: you really rattled that off nicely. Thank
2:01:26
Adam Curry: you for letting me correct the record. Yeah. And he
2:01:30
goes, thank you. Okay,
2:01:32
John C Dvorak: no, no, double Vax, double boosted Savannah
2:01:36
Guthrie got COVID COVID time during the show she had to go
2:01:39
home third time. Third COVID infection.
2:01:44
Adam Curry: Should you have any kind of questions about the
2:01:46
COVID vaccine creating Hardy issues? You are really, really
2:01:52
stupid, if you think that has anything to do with the vaccine.
2:01:56
Unknown: Welcome back, everyone. Dr. Jenn joins us now with a
2:01:59
very interesting topic that affects a lot of people, I found
2:02:01
this interesting. One in five American adults actually uses
2:02:05
cannabis and new data shows that daily cannabis use is actually
2:02:10
in increased risk of cardiovascular disease, coronary
2:02:13
artery disease.
2:02:13
So clogging of the arteries. And this is an abstract, so very
2:02:17
preliminary data that is presented at the annual meeting
2:02:20
for the American College of Cardiology, it represents one of
2:02:24
the largest and longest term studies to date. That's one of
2:02:27
the reasons why it's important, but found that people who
2:02:30
admitted to using daily cannabis, what and it didn't
2:02:35
distinguish, by the way, whether it was inhaled, smoked or
2:02:38
ingested. And
2:02:39
Adam Curry: even if it's gummies, not just smoking, if
2:02:42
it's gum eatable for
2:02:43
Unknown: him, but increase their risk of coronary artery disease
2:02:46
by 34%. Even if they took into account other factors like age,
2:02:52
and race, so there's still a lot of questions here, you know, in
2:02:56
terms of time interval training to see an increased risk with
2:03:00
increase in use, because they looked at like never users once
2:03:04
in a while, weekly, daily, daily had the most risk. But I think
2:03:08
what's really important here is that you know, whether it's
2:03:11
recreational or medicinal, this is here to stay. It's much more
2:03:15
common. It's not an all or none thing. It's completely safe
2:03:19
versus completely dangerous. We just need more data. And this
2:03:23
study goes a long way for that.
2:03:25
Adam Curry: Oh, we just need more data. Oh, sure. It's all we
2:03:29
need just more data, and we'll figure it out, even if it's an
2:03:32
edible. Now, there may be some truth to the matter. That if you
2:03:36
get really high off some edibles, and you start eating
2:03:38
Krispy Kreme Doughnuts and yodels Yeah, okay, now you're
2:03:41
talking. But that's not in the study, as far as I know. But
2:03:45
here's a better one. CBS has the answer.
2:03:48
Unknown: In tonight's Healthwatch researchers from the
2:03:50
Cleveland Clinic are sounding the alarm about a popular zero
2:03:54
calorie sugar substitute called a risk for tall. In a study of
2:03:58
more than 4000 people including many who had cardiovascular
2:04:01
issues. Researchers found those who had the highest levels of
2:04:04
this artificial sweetener in their blood had a heightened
2:04:07
risk of heart attack stroke and death. Researchers caution
2:04:10
though that more study on this sweetener is still needed.
2:04:15
Adam Curry: So is this a Ruth Ruth trawl that by the way, I
2:04:19
hear this this is a big big topic all of a sudden, even
2:04:22
Darren O'Neill was talking about it. Is this a hit job on some
2:04:26
new sweetener from the sugar industry or NutraSweet or one of
2:04:30
these guys what is a withdrawals? Sounds like
2:04:32
something you'd know about
2:04:33
John C Dvorak: it's the type of sugar that is that's not
2:04:36
digestible and it's already been a major product for it's a
2:04:41
splendid I think is okay. I don't know whether they'd be
2:04:45
doing a hit job on it, to be honest about it because there's
2:04:48
nothing there's nothing new coming down the pike.
2:04:52
Adam Curry: Then it's just to explain the obvious. Now we got
2:04:58
to have reasons Reasons for the, for the cardiovascular issues,
2:05:04
maybe hit your gummies whatever it is, in general. There's a lot
2:05:09
going on in the in the pharmaceutical industry and and
2:05:13
the same doctor Jen Ashton, who I just consider to be an
2:05:16
extended mouthpiece and a promo person. This is from a couple of
2:05:20
weeks ago, I just dug it up. This is about micro dosing and
2:05:24
not anything produced by big pharma. Dr. Jen
2:05:28
Unknown: joins us now with a topic. I'm actually a little
2:05:31
surprised we're talking about even though it's such a huge
2:05:34
trend right now.
2:05:34
Adam Curry: Yeah, because, you know, normally we don't talk
2:05:36
about anything that's not Pfizer related. We're talking about
2:05:39
Unknown: micro dosing, mushrooms, moms across the
2:05:42
country are using them to treat anxiety and depression. I want
2:05:46
your medical opinion, in some cases,
2:05:48
some Postpartum Mood Disorders. It was an article that got my
2:05:52
attention, recently published in The Washington Post about this
2:05:55
trend, this fad. But we're talking about the use of
2:05:59
psychedelics. recreationally, but also, therapeutically, we've
2:06:04
talked here about it in it's really exploding in the field of
2:06:07
psychiatry, in controlled research settings, really as a
2:06:13
way to treat or manage PTSD, extreme anxiety or major
2:06:17
depression. But now, your point is that a lot of new moms are
2:06:21
reaching for things like mushrooms or psilocybin,
2:06:26
reaching micro doses. But again, what that micro dose is, is a
2:06:31
big question mark, as a way to kind of manage mood disorders.
2:06:36
So I think it's a very interesting phenomenon. There's
2:06:39
a lot of interesting science behind it. But it is sweeping
2:06:44
the country in terms of its recreational use, and it's very,
2:06:47
very unregulated right now, and let's be clear,
2:06:50
mushrooms are only legal in Oregon and Colorado, they are
2:06:52
still illegal across the country,
2:06:54
they're still illegal. And a lot of people in different age
2:06:57
groups are really using these substances much more than
2:07:01
they're using things like alcohol and cannabis. So we will
2:07:04
definitely stay on top of it. But you know, obviously, new
2:07:07
moms and postpartum mood disorders is a very serious
2:07:10
issue. But we need good data to go through management and
2:07:15
treatment options, whether it's how safe it is and what the
2:07:18
issue is, versus benefit that it always comes down to that.
2:07:22
Adam Curry: So I found this really interesting because I
2:07:26
agree there is a there is a trend sweeping the nation not of
2:07:30
I haven't heard much from new moms, I think that may be just a
2:07:34
red herring to get the get the conversation started to bring
2:07:38
everybody back to where we want them which is on
2:07:40
antidepressants, that's where we want you knew mom's postpartum
2:07:43
depression, you want the anti depression drug, and you want
2:07:46
the one that picks you up from the anti depression drug and of
2:07:49
course, you want the stuff that will unclog your your bowels
2:07:53
from the anti depression drug. And, and and now you want some
2:07:56
some other stuff to make sure that you can you still have sex
2:07:59
drive. But it is mainly affluent women, with children, teenage
2:08:06
children, children in school who are doing this, and there's you
2:08:09
can get very expensive tours to go to different, you know, like
2:08:13
the Caribbean, and you can do psilocybin or IO Aashka This is
2:08:18
a big one under supervision $10,000 A trip, you know, they
2:08:23
stay in very high end hotels, and it's a small group it's
2:08:26
under supervision is is something is going on with this,
2:08:30
which they're not they're identifying it incorrectly about
2:08:33
new moms. But this is a real thing. And I hear a lot about
2:08:36
it.
2:08:38
John C Dvorak: Well, this isn't again, I'm getting more deja vu
2:08:41
out of this. Because in 2017 This was actually a topic in the
2:08:49
spin off from The Good Wife show. Oh, and it was on TV. This
2:08:52
was getting their destiny that that sitcom that was showing on
2:08:57
one of the spin off channels like CBS plus or NBC plus one of
2:09:03
his bullshit operations. And they were talking about it there
2:09:07
because the lead the actress was micro dosing, but it was at the
2:09:11
time in 2017. It was LSD. Right? They were micro dosing on. So as
2:09:18
a new story really, this isn't reintroducing it for some
2:09:21
reason.
2:09:22
Adam Curry: It's not well, no one's doing LSD DMT specifically
2:09:26
IO Aashka. And, and psilocybin.
2:09:30
John C Dvorak: I remember in 2017 they were talking about
2:09:32
micro dosing LSD,
2:09:34
Adam Curry: I'm sure then but yeah. I don't know it. I think
2:09:38
people are searching, searching for something. They're not
2:09:42
getting what they want.
2:09:43
John C Dvorak: They just because they don't listen to the right
2:09:45
podcast. And
2:09:46
Adam Curry: with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage in
2:09:49
the morning to you the man who put the seat in the CIT ladies
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and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other on the one
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and only Mr. John Cena
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John C Dvorak: Good morning to you Mr. Carlson. She boots on
2:10:04
the ground feet in the air subs in the water and all the games
2:10:07
and nights out there.
2:10:09
Adam Curry: Yes in the morning. So are the trolls and the troll
2:10:11
room who have been hanging out handing me one liners doing what
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how many we have on trolls when you see we have today currently
2:11:04
1812 1812 Seems kind of on par for Thursday. Am I right?
2:11:11
John C Dvorak: Lowly to see 19 All right,
2:11:13
Adam Curry: well, I don't know what happened to your trolls.
2:11:16
You should bring in some more trolls you'd like to see 19
2:11:18
That's the word the official word. Of course many of these
2:11:21
trolls you can also find or reach or follow on no agenda
2:11:25
social.com which I also will say is getting a little rowdy. know
2:11:33
people are a little unhinged. Have you seen any of this
2:11:35
behavior or no agenda? social.com
2:11:38
John C Dvorak: some lead to any new extreme. Just I see I've
2:11:42
always been you know, I bought blog so many people die people
2:11:46
you should have blocked.
2:11:47
Adam Curry: Yeah, and I think that you know, because people
2:11:49
are leaving like, Well, someone said something offensive. Why
2:11:53
don't you just blow that's
2:11:54
John C Dvorak: good.
2:11:58
Adam Curry: And then, and by the way, stop DMing me I do not
2:12:01
respond to DMS on no agenda social.com
2:12:06
John C Dvorak: Well, you know, I said this myself. I just don't
2:12:10
notice them because they don't have a low A flag. There's no
2:12:13
flag I don't know a
2:12:14
Adam Curry: damn came here very hard to see that
2:12:16
John C Dvorak: it's a little did I click on it by accident, or on
2:12:21
accident as the millennials would say. So I click on an on
2:12:24
accident. Boom is a bunch of DMS at all backed up.
2:12:27
Adam Curry: Yeah, do not DM us if you got something to say say
2:12:30
it in public. If you'd like now,
2:12:33
John C Dvorak: you can DM me if you want. I'm not that picky.
2:12:35
Everyone's but you might not hear from me for months.
2:12:38
Adam Curry: It's at John C. Dvorak. You can DM him as much
2:12:41
as you want.
2:12:43
John C Dvorak: Good if you do not hear me for months yeah, I'm
2:12:45
Adam Curry: not gonna respond at all. If you got something to say
2:12:47
Say it out in the open. Now the I don't like what's happening
2:12:50
here mean anything the enemy DM I got no time for that. Block,
2:12:56
mute, mute a good one to mute block. Do that. But don't go to
2:13:03
the to the to the main timeline. If you're afraid of stuff, you
2:13:07
get triggered by stuff. But there's also just a lot of
2:13:10
people just posting memes all day long. Oh my goodness. It
2:13:15
costs a lot of disk space. People don't care. And we have
2:13:20
to charge him. God bless Aaron our man. God bless him for
2:13:25
managing that whole thing. You guys are very unthankful
2:13:28
ungrateful. What it takes to run that was crazy
2:13:33
John C Dvorak: and thankful.
2:13:35
Adam Curry: Well, they just use up resources not taking into any
2:13:39
consideration what it takes when when you make certain actions
2:13:46
particularly in the in the way Macedon works. It just takes up
2:13:50
tons of space. And people want to have this now with after two
2:13:54
weeks, you should delete it. We have to I mean, this terabytes,
2:13:58
terabytes and terabytes and terabytes and the bandwidth is
2:14:01
off the hook. It's a very inefficient system. And we only
2:14:04
have 10,000 people. You know, maybe we shouldn't chop it in
2:14:07
half do 5000 How about that make you in charge of make you in
2:14:13
charge of picking the 5000
2:14:15
John C Dvorak: I got nothing to do.
2:14:18
Adam Curry: Follow us out of a no agenda. social.com Jhansi
2:14:20
Dvorak at no agenda social.com Seriously, it's it is a great
2:14:24
place to hang out. But you know, sometimes people get a little
2:14:26
pissed off at each other. You can just tell the people who are
2:14:29
listening at higher speeds to the podcast are unruly. There's
2:14:33
something going on with them. Let's thank the artists for
2:14:38
episode 1533 titled rage bait, think it was perfect. Oh, and
2:14:43
yes, I remember this. I remember exactly why we chose this one is
2:14:47
a great piece of art, which was done by correct a record. A
2:14:52
beautiful deep fake sign young multicolored girl hanging
2:14:56
holding up the sign no 15 minutes cities or one 1.5 Speed
2:15:01
podcasts I thought that was very appropriate. There was something
2:15:05
else we looked at that we liked though.
2:15:07
John C Dvorak: There was a number of pieces that were
2:15:09
decent. We were the one we you wanted initially was the shift
2:15:14
into into G now that's the one they wanted capitalist agenda.
2:15:18
Adam Curry: You liked that one. I did like it kind of like
2:15:21
tissue but it was so small.
2:15:23
John C Dvorak: The Yeah, the RG thing was too small. And the
2:15:29
Adam Curry: thing is if you don't see the title of the art,
2:15:32
which only shows up on no agenda, art generator.com Then
2:15:36
you don't know that it's like shift into G All I saw was the
2:15:40
33 shift pattern. I thought that was cool. I thought it was a
2:15:43
nice piece. Otherwise what I liked were too I liked slow
2:15:47
agenda with the the sloth.
2:15:52
John C Dvorak: Which you hated Tom to kneel didn't hate it. I
2:15:55
just You said
2:15:56
Adam Curry: I hate shot. Well, you literally said I hate that
2:15:58
one. And no agenda. No merch was cute with a broken cup. I liked
2:16:05
that one. You didn't feel much for that.
2:16:13
John C Dvorak: Going back to the no one five by corrector record
2:16:15
they got to win. I think there was a flaw in the piece noticing
2:16:19
it after the fact no detail. says no 15 minutes cities or 1.5
2:16:25
Speed podcasts. It should be 1.5x.
2:16:31
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's okay. Good point. Good point. Well, we
2:16:34
can we can dethrone him take it off and deleted a lot of work.
2:16:42
See what else was there? A couple of Ohio things. Was this
2:16:47
Oh, yep. Ohio was Renu Paris. But you know, it's like without
2:16:51
people don't even know what the state of Ohio looks like. I
2:16:57
agree. I don't think the gag would would go over we're very
2:16:59
well. Greta wound on with a Greta thing was there
2:17:04
John C Dvorak: is there was no I did this piece one. It was
2:17:08
simple did the trick is you know someone holding up a sign then
2:17:13
putting some some it's easy to go beyond the sign is not the
2:17:16
most creative thing in the world. But it worked. It did. It
2:17:19
did. Man we certainly appreciate I mean, Paul Couture's art
2:17:23
actual art next to it. And above it. Who was probably better,
2:17:29
technically, but now.
2:17:32
Adam Curry: The which was the graffiti, graffiti spray? Can I
2:17:37
mean the problem with that, Sir Paul is too small. It's just too
2:17:40
small, because it would look great hung up as a poster. But
2:17:44
you know, you, you look at the even if I look at it, when
2:17:51
blowed up big and big. And it's hard to read. It's beautiful
2:17:55
piece, you know, something deconstruction, yellow. I mean,
2:18:00
there's SEO established 2007, which relates to the pies a
2:18:05
beautiful piece, but it's too small. We always run into this.
2:18:10
It's so interesting that artists don't follow that or don't,
2:18:15
don't. They don't it's not landing. Could you say it?
2:18:19
Maybe, maybe, maybe you have a better way of explaining it to
2:18:21
them.
2:18:24
John C Dvorak: It has to be more readable,
2:18:26
Adam Curry: okay. readable on a small just go look at podcast
2:18:31
and
2:18:32
John C Dvorak: I blow it up and I can't read what's on the can
2:18:35
go look at
2:18:35
Adam Curry: a podcast app and then see how small that that
2:18:39
image is? Yeah. Especially on a phone very, very small. Yeah, on
2:18:44
a phone, it's going to be very small. It's not going to be your
2:18:46
your, your five, what is it? 526 It's going to be 250 or 520 is
2:18:52
gonna be 256. That's the biggest you're gonna see it and that's
2:18:55
what you're gonna have to go off of. And that's how we look at
2:18:58
it. No agenda, art generator.com. You can follow
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along live, if you're listening to the show, or even after the
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fact you can go there and just refresh and see what's going on.
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Or again, in one of those modern podcast apps. We have chapters
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with images that Dred Scott does for us all the time and I love
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it a lot. It's all part of our value for value model, which we
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have been. I'm sorry.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. Watch. Look at it. I was looking at one of
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the tabs in my browser and I was just irked.
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Adam Curry: Do share.
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John C Dvorak: No. Okay.
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Adam Curry: All right. Well, well, it wasn't Show Related at
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least.
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John C Dvorak: No. Okay, I'm saying no. Okay. Figures.
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Adam Curry: It's all part of our value for value model which we
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pioneered been using another tab issue.
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John C Dvorak: No, this time I lost a note. Ah, there it is.
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Just microphone just picks up too many mic grumblings.
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Adam Curry: Okay. And now it's the mic. microphone all right.
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No, it is you shouldn't be looking at open tabs when you're
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doing the show. Flower Mound from Texas gives us $1,000 Right
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