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March 5th, 2023 • 3h 8m

1535: Podspeeding

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Adam Curry: I don't like schools. Adam curry Jhansi
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Devorah they march this 2023 This your award winning nation
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media assassination episode 1535. This is no agenda.
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harboring you from Havana syndrome man broadcasting live
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from the heart of the Texas hill country here in the region
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number six. Morning everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where I've
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discovered that one teaspoon equals five milliliters. I'm
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John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Having grown up in in Europe and being completely
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decimate alized. Is that a word? Yeah, Metro Metro sized, was
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decimated. Now, that's always after the show where I'm
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decimated. I you know, I have the biggest problem with ounces
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and teaspoons and tablespoons. I mean, I can follow a recipe but
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I have no idea. I mean, the fact that you figured out a teaspoon
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was five milliliters that that that must be a fluke.
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John C Dvorak: I've decided to make these opening show things
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educational, I
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Adam Curry: liked that I liked that we used to do Confucius
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says I think the educational part is good. The and these are
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handy tips you can use around the house and the kitchen. Too,
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I'd like it as a good idea.
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John C Dvorak: Well, the way you get around, I know what you're
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talking about about this, you know, because you look at a lot
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of recipes. There's European Wednesday, never, they don't
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care about ounces or anything, pretty much. And so you got to
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find a good one good program somewhere that's a converter.
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And you just keep looking it up over and over and over again
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until you get to know how many ounces are in a quart and how
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many ounces are in a leader.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, or you can just use, you know, not use
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liters at all. Just Just use your ounces. Use your measuring
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cups. The stuff that is tried
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John C Dvorak: measuring cups have it on both sides now. Oh,
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really? You again? Yes. Really? shrinkable usually has cups? No.
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And the other side? Is the middle of the year out of
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Adam Curry: here. Where can I get such a fine instrument,
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Amazon? I need this in my life. Okay, now
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John C Dvorak: let me get one of those cool measuring capsule,
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when you put it in the dishwasher, it washes off all
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the ink or whatever the paint that's on there. And what had
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this what happened,
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Adam Curry: whatever that stuff is, it's probably not not good
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for you. Good. Ladies and gentlemen. This is a value for
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value program. And I'd like to start off by explaining why we
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are value for value, which means we do a show it creates value.
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You receive that value if it's valuable to you, if not why you
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listening go away. If it is then return that in time, talent or
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treasure because we don't want creepy corporations. We don't
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want ads we want to be able to speak freely. You know this was
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not a not an ad for an Amazon measuring cup. But here is a
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perfect example the perfect example of two things one, why
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you do not want advertising in your programming because it will
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it will take over the programming. And it also gives
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us a perfect example of why tick tock is very, very dangerous to
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the rest of advertising based media particularly Google,
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Facebook, Twitter, etc. tock tick tock. Now you may have seen
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this, this article but the Genesis is right here on NBC
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Today Show. This is the McDonald's native ad hoax.
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Unknown: Can we go from French fries to a fit guy? That's we're
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finding out 100 days of nothing but McDonald's,
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let's go. Go and eat her that correctly. Kevin McGinnis from
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Nashville has quickly become a viral Tick, tick tick tock
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sensation for documenting his very unique diet journey he's
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eating as you heard nothing but McDonald's for 100 straight
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days. And so far, he says he's loving it. We're gonna talk to
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Kevin in just a moment. But first, here's how it all
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started. I woke up this morning. And I weighed in at 238 pounds.
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And I decided that that is absolutely unacceptable. So I
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drove down to McDonald's. I'm going to eat nothing but
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McDonald's for the next 100 days. But instead of eating
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everything they give me I'm gonna go ahead and cut the meals
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in
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half. And he's here with us now, Kevin, good morning to you.
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Morning. You found him on TV.
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I was watching tick tock and oh yeah, well, cup of 2038 pounds.
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He was disgusted with himself. He wanted to finally put his
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foot down on his weight. So he put it on the gas pedal and
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drove to McDonald's. And I thought, well, this is
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interesting, and I'm following your 10 day journey so far. And
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I think what really hooked me was that it's working.
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Absolutely working. We're gonna come up with this idea.
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Adam Curry: All right, let's just break this down. on for a
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moment, in a no a no morning show world does Carson Daly get
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to determine a segment about McDonald's ever, ever. That is a
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plant from McDonald's. The guy's tick tock videos have McDonald's
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logos on it superimposed. And then to add insult to injury, we
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throw in the slogan Oh, I'm loving it. What a hoax. Now, I
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will say, if I eat McDonald's just one time, I lose weight to
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because I'm just a pass through guy in that case. So I mean,
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that's very possible. But wow, what a scam. This is and it's so
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blatant. Have you seen this?
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John C Dvorak: I saw one. I saw one version of it. I didn't turn
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it into a no agenda segment because I never thought I am
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remiss because you're right. This is a native ad is very well
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produced. I don't know if I call it a scam. I'd call it a native
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ads, native ads. But they've they've managed to, to, it's
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incredibly creative. I far as I'm concerned. Or kudos to
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whoever dreamed this one out. And I know people that can do
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this kind of work and they work in there. They're not normal
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advertising people they are they are these these special. They're
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definitely they're special. There's definitely stuff and
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they come up with this idea, these ideas and then they have
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to sell them to the client, which in this case would be
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McDonald's. And then they have to then it's easier to it's
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harder to sell to the client, McDonald's than it is to the
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people taking the money. Yeah, they just take the money and
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they follow orders.
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Adam Curry: I think that it's going really well for tick tock
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in the in the advertising world I have and it's also in the
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shownotes an important slide from an agency pitch deck where
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they are pitching a switching away from Facebook and Instagram
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and others to tick tock and the slide is titled Why tick tock
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why now, you know, the kinds of slides right, it's like, great.
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Here's a slide. Why now an older audience is moving to tick tock
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16 To 16k to 16.4% of viewers.
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John C Dvorak: Wait, wait, where did this deck come from? I'm not
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a tick tock deck. No, it's
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Adam Curry: an agency deck. I'm not allowed to say which
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John C Dvorak: agency deck you're not allowed. I promise.
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The same. I'm sure this this this deck and they always
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spelled de que these. This deck is is from the HBCUs by more
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than one eight. I will Yeah, I
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Adam Curry: would think you're right. Yes, I would hope so. An
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older audience is moving to Tik Tok. 16.4% of viewers are 30 to
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39 21% are 40 to 50 and 61% are female. I'd say that's a sweet
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spot.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, there you go. Add your Ching touch.
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Adam Curry: Tick tock is the most downloaded app of 2022 in
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2020. And this is this is meant to discredit the other ones in
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2022 downloads surpassed Instagram and Facebook. So
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that's that's, that is what you give a client or potential
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client to say clearly tiktoks a better place on the move on the
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trending Stranding. And here's the killer. More time is spent
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watching tick tock videos then on Netflix viewer spend an
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average of 99 zero minutes per day on GTalk Wow, we're lost.
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We're lost. We're lost as a country. And this and this is
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why we need to get rid of tick tock I don't know. I've gotten
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so many so much pushback on this people saying no man that's not
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true. Because all the Patriots on Tik Tok they hate that
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because you know all the stuff is getting banned from YouTube
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but on tick tock is not getting banned. Trust me brothers.
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John C Dvorak: Hey, can I interrupt? Yeah, please do. So I
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go on tick tock once every two days or so. And then I just just
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to see because I'm cookie list. I'm not. I don't I just go jump
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on it out of the blue. But sometimes I come in from
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somebody else's. You know, somebody says Look at this. And
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so I can think of a few people that we both know very well, who
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watch tic tac all the time it seems you know who you are. So I
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go on there and they will and I just listened to the stream. So
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I watched the one thing okay when I can maybe I can get a
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clip out of that. Maybe I can't. And now I let it go for about
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five or 10 minutes so I can see what's coming up after an after
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and after the mount of at least on this one stream that I
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latched on to the amount of Democrat hate is on believable.
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Yeah, it's one video after another there's this one or the
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one I got the biggest kick out of his. I didn't record any of
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these was this guy. So how did we elect this idiot? This guy's
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a scumbag and it just says Biden walk and stay are staggering
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around. And it's going on and on. This guy's just just
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demeaning Biden as much as he can then clicks to the next one,
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it'd be something very similar, right? And they're all pro
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Trump. Oh, yeah.
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Adam Curry: So it's definitely going on. But that's not the
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reason that's why I think we can push back of course, of course,
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but you know, the, the actual term is their Patriot friendly.
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Okay. If this was a turn off for advertisers, then they will get
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rid of it. Trust me. That's how it always works. I also did the
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earth ritual, not this not necessarily tick tock related,
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but the withdrawal smears, which is, I guess it literally is
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Splenda, the sweetener or three tall
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John C Dvorak: Splenda. Yeah, we
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Adam Curry: talked about on the last episode we did. Now I
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remember this controversy back in the pod show days 2006 2007
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splendor was one of our first post read advertisers. And we
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had a whole sheet that explained how to push back against the,
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you know, it's going to kill you meme, which was out there. So
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this this thing has been around for a long, long time. So why is
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this researching now? Now, it may be that there's no competing
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advertising products in the market. But I thought this was a
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really good one. From one of our producers, Earther tall has been
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made hugely popular by adherence of keto and similar low carb
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diets. He said, like the carnivore diet. And I know this
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to be true, because I know several new keto was always I
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mean, I think the last five years, keto has just gone up and
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up and up and up. You know, to me, it's just like, Oh, his
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addict, it really is his people to go nuts over keto. And so
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part of the keto diet is a healthy, healthy sampling of
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earth or tall or Splenda, in your, I guess, in your coffee,
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or your tea, or maybe you're cooking. And the accusation here
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is that this is actually a way to bring down keto altogether.
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Now, I'm not sure if that's 100% Correct. But I like the
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association. Because we have to get rid of actual animal protein
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and meat, you know, we have to prepare people for the future of
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food.
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John C Dvorak: Well, this trend is going just the opposite
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direction. What do you mean? These diets are making people
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eat just pure protein and fat
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Adam Curry: Right? Right. So they want people off of that
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John C Dvorak: well, to go as well this isn't gonna do it.
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That's kind of a name where you go
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Adam Curry: I'm just I'm just saying it's one answer to the
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question as to why now and I just don't see a competing
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product in the market yet it could becoming
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John C Dvorak: could become a try these other things like with
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sets of seven all or Steven suffer others, stevia, stevia,
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stevia, stevia, and it's bitter. You know, it's sweet and bitter,
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so that's no good. I don't know they got to esperto army or
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whatever this called aspartame.
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Adam Curry: Aspartame, aspartame, aspartame.
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John C Dvorak: You know, you could just add sugar once in a
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while? Yes. punani. Maybe, man, you know what I like for my
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sweetener is maple syrup. Once you get used, for example of
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using maple syrup. He used maple syrup and coffee. Yeah, match
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made in heaven.
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Adam Curry: Can I tell you a recipe that I do and you're
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gonna go with that discussion? Okay,
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John C Dvorak: Lloyd do it. You just did it for me. So I don't
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have to do that. When I
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Adam Curry: bake salmon in the oven. Yeah, on the top of the
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salmon. I'll drizzle just a little bit of maple syrup. And
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then cover that with lemon pepper. And then you bake it in
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the oven with a little bit of broil the last three minutes. Ah
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that was close enough. I'll take that. I'll take our ha You
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should try it. If you'd like maple syrup. It actually kind of
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add you
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John C Dvorak: like maple syrup. I would put me I'll try maple
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syrup on salmon. Yeah, just drizzle
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Adam Curry: a couple drizzles couple drizzles. Dump it on
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there. Quite nice. Why don't we just get into climate change for
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a second because I've got some exciting things so exciting
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about climate change. The the first, the first thing that I
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have here really solves a big question that we've been looking
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at is what is it with all of European countries moving into
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Africa. Now we've had the French, the PA Macron. We've had
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the Germans in there. We haven't had the Brits in there, but I'm
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sure the Dutch are in there. Of course. We're also in there. The
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US everyone everyone's in Athens Look at doing stuff. And you
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know, of course we're, I'm sure China is part of the reason
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Russia is part of the reason the US as part of the reach
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everyone, but what are we really doing? And then this came across
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my desk. Well, I don't really have a desk but my email, and
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I'm like, oh yeah, this makes a lot of sense because Africa will
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be the new source of green hydrogen, it will be the battery
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content continent. This huge
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Unknown: renewable energy forum is Germany's hope for a greener
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future. It's not being built in Germany, though, but in Namibia,
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one of Germany's former colonies. It's meant to produce
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green hydrogen, the fuel of the future to get away from fossil
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fuels. That's the promise. When he went to Namibia, Germany's
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economy and climate Minister Oba Tabak stressed he wants a
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partnership between equals and avoid a green energy
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imperialism. Big trucks for those countries this
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is crazy. This is becoming
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like battery country industries like steelmaking, heavy
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transport or chemicals can simply switch to electricity
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from renewable sources. That is where green hydrogen comes in.
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Green hydrogen right now is a lot more expensive than other
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fuels, which is why it is sometimes called the champagne
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of energy sources, partly because of infrastructure,
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transit and safety issues, but mainly because massive amounts
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of renewable energy are needed to create it. So we have to look
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at countries with good preconditions. So because it
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doesn't have enough wind and solar capacities, Germany wants
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to import hydrogen and its derivatives. In order to do so
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it has set up energy partnerships with a lot of
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countries, many of them in the Global South. in Namibia, a
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German company is planning this 10 billion euro energy project.
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Wind and solar farms will power the process of electrolysis
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water from the nearby ocean will be pumped in my pipeline. The
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company promises that the local economy will benefit as well
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with new jobs and access to energy and water. Minister
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hubback stressed that Germany would only input energy that
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Namibia doesn't need for domestic consumption and that
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the project above all has to serve the citizens of the
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African nation.
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Adam Curry: Now I'm sure that all take place. I love green
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hydrogen as the champagne of energy. I just love it.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's a good phrase. I like it. overprice
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champagne. In fact, we did a sweet talked about this a couple
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of months ago when this first started doing it. And what's
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overlooked in this store is it kind of says, you know, some
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wind and some solar No, I don't believe they are blanketing the
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area with the solar panels from China, I might add Chinese solar
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panels and they're pretty much covering up as much as the
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countryside as they can and then create putting these factories
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at the Create they use the electricity to use to sushi near
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the coast. Yeah, to break up the water and put the hydrogen in a
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big tanker and then hauled to Europe. This is dumb.
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Adam Curry: I also don't think it's ever going to be enough
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energy honestly. You nuclear Yeah, if they didn't nuclear, I
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believe it. But how about they have maybe there's putting up
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coal plants. And we'll just say, Oh, look at look at the shiny
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solar panels. And this also explains South Africa, South
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Africa's entire infrastructure is now on the verge of collapse.
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If we can believe the reporting, this is another great country to
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go in and do this. And maybe it's just greenwashing you know,
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maybe who knows? What if it's, you know, 10 billion doesn't
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seem like a lot by the way to create green hydrogen. None of
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it seems like it's realistic. I'm not enough of a energy Maven
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to know if the solar panels can create enough to actually create
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hydrolysis that no and on any meaningful level
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John C Dvorak: I'm pretty sure they can do a meaningful level
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but you still have the problem with hydrogen it's a terrible
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product isn't leeches through everything it's one of the ships
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is going to catch on fire one of these days. It's just a pain in
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the ass to work with.
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Adam Curry: It's like Hindenburg ships.
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John C Dvorak: Berg ship.
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Adam Curry: Is that the only way to store and transport it?
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John C Dvorak: I can't think of any other way. And at least if
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it's coming from Africa, yeah, they got to put it on a boat,
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man, they get it some pressurized containers. They're
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not going to turn it into liquid hydrogen. That would really be a
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pain in the butt. Because this is dumb.
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Adam Curry: Well, I just I really kind of love that whole
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story is how it was really, really, really, really good. And
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it fits in perfectly. Now climate change is moving in on
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us and it's moving in so fast that the The 15 minute cities
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which we know are intended specifically to mitigate climate
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change, now that the cat is out of the bag, like we were seeing
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it and all over the world, certainly in the United Kingdom,
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these 15 minute cities are actually happening. So the BBC
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came out with a 10 minute piece to debunk that the 15 Minute
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cities are, well, what they're doing is they're taking it from
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No, let's, let's put it this way, what we know about 15
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minute cities, the idea is that you should be able to take
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public transport or walk to anything you need, anything your
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life can, can provide that you are there is a necessity, within
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15 minutes. Now, what comes on top of that is all these cameras
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and barriers that make sure that you add fines and fines, it
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makes sure that you can't travel outside your zone without being
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fined. And that is based upon climate change. So what they're
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doing now, and the BBC did a very good job of this, and I cut
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that down to two minutes, which is still long, but it has all
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the pertinent pieces in there. They are now twisting this and
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saying, This is a conspiracy theory. 15 minutes City's
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conspiracy theory none of its true, because their idea I know
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see that they're twisting it by saying people are saying this is
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climate change lockdown, which of course is exactly what it is.
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But they're taking it one step further and saying you'll be
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locked in your house. That's not what this is. 15 minutes cities
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aren't about that. Have a listen.
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Unknown: What if it could be different? What if we
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Adam Curry: could create a new where we reclaim our time?
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Again, this is the BBC health and
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Unknown: wellbeing, food, medicine, education and leisure,
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all within a 15 minute walk or cycle theory. The idea of 15
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minutes cities have spread to Paris, Melbourne and South
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Korea, attracted by the promise of lower car use and a better
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quality of life. But it's also become the focus of conspiracies
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that travel outside these neighborhoods would be
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restricted sort of climate locked down. disinformation.
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Researchers say this all started with the pandemic. So the idea
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of climate lockdown first appeared in March 2020. When
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news of the lockdowns in Wuhan as a result of the COVID 19
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pandemic first broke into international news. And the
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terminology came from a set of accounts in the US who were
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linked to a fossil fuel think tank called the Heartland
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Institute.
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Adam Curry: Have we ever heard of the think tank, the Heartland
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Institute be being no being the source of this 15 minutes? No,
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John C Dvorak: no, the source as far as I'm concerned was Oxford.
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Adam Curry: Thank you, Ben, the BBC.
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Unknown: Really it was a reframing of very old vocabulary
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that imagines this future of so called Climate tyranny or green
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tyranny, where individual civil liberties are stripped away
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under the pretext of solving climate change. 15 minutes
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cities have been drawn into this narrative of insidious control.
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In the UK, one particular target has been Oxford, where
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misinformation has recently led to counselors receiving death
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threats.
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We've been receiving many calls and emails for worried residents
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in genuine fear that they might be locked in their own homes.
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Whereas the death threat,
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criticism has also been leveled at the way the proposals have
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been communicated.
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There were no great efforts for everybody in the city to be made
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aware of what's happening and some people still don't actually
23:23
know what's happening. You can see why certain people turn to
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conspiracy theories. Theories
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a wider point in all this though, behavioral change is
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seen by many experts as a crucial part of achieving legal
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and binding climate targets. The UK is climate change legally
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binding climate targets committee has for example urged
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the government to create plans to reduce demand for air travel
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and help change people's diets. This recent concern and
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conspiracy shows how these kinds of policies are communicated
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maybe central to the
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Adam Curry: love this so they're saying no, of course we're
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trying to motivate people to change their diets which means
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no more meat, fake meat etc change their travel which means
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no airplanes don't go outside your zone shitless and and now
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they're actually gonna say yeah, this is important work we're
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doing AI success we
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John C Dvorak: if you back it up a little bit. She says all these
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crazy things which resulted in people complaining which she
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better believe it. And S and she says that the pushback is a
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conspiracy theory. Yes. She talking about
24:35
Unknown: there is a wider point in all this though. behavioral
24:37
change is seen by many experts as a crucial part of achieving
24:41
the UK is legally binding climate targets. The UK climate
24:45
change committee has for example, urged the government to
24:47
create plans to reduce demand for air travel and help change
24:50
people's diets. This recent concern and conspiracy shows how
24:55
these kinds of policies are communicated may be central to
24:58
Adam Curry: your rights you literally As these concerns and
25:01
consent, did you say an conspiracy? Think she said yes,
25:05
something
25:05
John C Dvorak: like that it was just like she passed it off as
25:08
though. First they say, we like to get people to stuck in their
25:13
houses in a little area when they can't walk too far, and
25:15
they can't travel, they can't, and we're going to eliminate air
25:18
travel, they're going to have to eat Beyond Meat. And, and and
25:22
people think that this is a conspiracy,
25:25
Adam Curry: the crazy nutters,
25:26
Unknown: this recent concern and conspiracy shows how these kinds
25:30
of policies are communicated, maybe central to their success.
25:33
What we find in research is actually if you're completely
25:36
transparent about nudges, so if you think about the idea that
25:39
some policy proposals are designed to change people's
25:41
behavior, and what the government thinks are positive
25:43
ways, if you actually state what the goals are of the nudge, be
25:46
transparent and honest about it. It doesn't reduce the efficacy
25:50
of those types of initiatives at all. Very interesting. This guy,
25:54
Hey, yeah,
25:56
John C Dvorak: we forgot about the nudges. We forgot to help
25:58
nudge agency and they did these nudges the England was based on
26:02
doing nudges. That's
26:04
Adam Curry: why I left it in. And the reason for that is
26:08
WhatsApp gate. Which is the the 100,000 messages that Matt
26:14
Hancock, over there in the UK, during a thing as December 2020
26:22
was discussing all of these nudges, but the nudges really
26:26
went much further, saying things like, hey, let's let's release
26:31
the new strain or a communicate the new strain will frighten
26:35
those, though, right? I saw that will frighten the pants off
26:37
everyone with the new strain. Now. What this tells me is they
26:43
weren't releasing new strains, but they were totally scaring
26:46
people. And when we do deploy the new variant, and I think
26:51
deploy the tried the messaging about the new variant, you know,
26:53
they're not actually deploying new variant, although I wouldn't
26:56
put it past these creeps. And then stuff like more mask
27:00
wearing might be the only thing to consider. Yes, effective,
27:04
free and has a very visible visible impact, wearing masks
27:08
and all settings outside the home and in more workplaces.
27:10
This is going to work for us. So that does show the lunacy of
27:19
these people.
27:20
John C Dvorak: And what is this about? legally required climate
27:24
targets whatever she said at the beginning of her speech? Oh,
27:27
Adam Curry: that's all agenda 51 stuff. That's bull crap.
27:30
John C Dvorak: What's that? What's? What's that? What
27:31
happens if you don't do it? Well get a ticket. Yeah, you have to
27:35
pay you have to go see a constable. What do you have to
27:37
do here?
27:39
Adam Curry: You got shamed. You could shame that the next
27:41
meeting in Paris. Hey, you I've not been doing your work. No
27:47
pure hairdo for you. Of course, this is exactly what you know,
27:52
agenda 21 is about and all of these, all of these agreements
27:57
at the United Nations level. Of course, all the climate stuff is
28:02
all legally binding. Because we have agreements. We have
28:04
resolutions, we signed off on stuff. And this is why you have
28:10
the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, who is pushing as another
28:15
climate change policy, which is what is this thing called? It's
28:21
the Ulez Ultra Low Emission zone Ulez that London should be an
28:31
ultra low emission zone Ulez. And what does that mean? Battery
28:36
cars, of course, are better hydrogen cars clean green
28:41
hydrogen high. So during people's Question Time, which is
28:45
an open forum, where people can question the mayor. He decided
28:50
it was best to shame these people who are against the idea
28:54
of only battery cars or hydrogen cars being allowed into London.
28:58
And he did it with a couple of good old tropes.
29:01
Unknown: So objections in 2006 we banned smoking from public
29:05
places and their objections. Now, what I find unacceptable,
29:10
though, is some of those who've got legitimate objections,
29:13
joining hands with some of those outside who are part of a far
29:17
right group.
29:24
Let's be frank, that's cool. Let's call a spade a spade. Some
29:28
of those outside are part of the fall, right? Summer, summer
29:34
deniers deniers summer Tories
29:45
Adam Curry: if you're against Ultra Low Emission zone, then
29:50
you are anti Vax anti COVID And you're a Tory.
29:54
Unknown: The man has a right to be heard right. Don't look this
29:59
way. In this people's question time, it's up to you to have a
30:03
change of views, lots of macrocell, please, otherwise we
30:06
will we can we could enter this very, very quickly.
30:09
Adam Curry: If you'd if you keep doing that, we're just gonna end
30:11
it. We're just gonna not talk any more to you. Okay, we can do
30:13
that whenever we want
30:15
Unknown: to those people, to those people who've got
30:18
legitimate concerns by the fact, some of you, I've got good
30:25
reasons to oppose you less. But you're in coalition with COVID
30:30
deniers, again, coalition. You may not like it. You may not
30:35
like it. You may not like it. You may like you're in coalition
30:42
with the far right. You're in coalition with vaccine tonight
30:47
as well.
30:51
John C Dvorak: So even if you're not far right, a vaccine denier
30:55
anything that's fringe from his perspective, and you have a good
31:00
reason for disliking this idea, and there's probably plenty.
31:04
You're no good. You're just as bad as those people. Yeah,
31:09
pretty. So this is not a question and answer time.
31:11
Adam Curry: Now, this is a scolding time.
31:13
John C Dvorak: This is nonsense. This guy stinks. I you know, the
31:16
fact that he's Mayor of London or anything, I mean, he's he's
31:21
like Trudeau. He's almost like a Trudeau.
31:26
Adam Curry: Yeah, only Trudeau won't let you yell at him like
31:28
that. He just won't he just won't show up for that stuff.
31:35
Now, I got one more clip here. And and this is really about,
31:39
about the warming of the earth. Well, maybe I should set up this
31:45
way. Have we seen incredible warming of California in the
31:50
past month?
31:52
John C Dvorak: Let me interrupt your clip edge. Okay. With a
31:57
clip. Oh, very good. And the clip will be just because
32:01
elucidates your point. Yes. I have. California under
32:07
California snowed in
32:09
Unknown: in the San Bernardino area of California residents say
32:13
they are frustrated by the response to winter weather
32:16
that's dumped record snowfall and back to back storms. People
32:19
are still trapped in their homes. Grocery stores are
32:22
running out of food. Some roads remain closed. Nina Clark works
32:26
at the Community Market in Big Bear where supplies are
32:29
dwindling.
32:30
It feels like it's the end of the world or something like
32:32
we're like we're just being completely ignored and forgotten
32:36
about.
32:37
And Tanya Henkelman is a coordinator of a civilian
32:40
response that's been collecting donations, and then using either
32:43
helicopters or snowmobiles to deliver much needed food. She
32:47
says Help is being coordinated
32:49
have notifications of newborns that have no food available.
32:54
kits that are starving. And it's heartbreaking to see how we
33:00
civilians have taken upon to do the job.
33:03
More snow is forecast
33:04
Adam Curry: this weekend. In the time that you've lived in
33:07
California, which has been quite a while. Have you ever witnessed
33:11
this type of record breaking snowfall?
33:14
John C Dvorak: I get no is it winter?
33:16
Adam Curry: Winter I mean there's trapped California
33:20
mountain residents plead for help snowed in and
33:23
John C Dvorak: nobody's giving him any help either. It's like
33:25
too bad. You know, your your gear is warming don't exhaust
33:30
Adam Curry: Exactly. How does that report gel with this one
33:34
from Deutsche Avella.
33:35
Unknown: A new analysis of global co2 emissions put out by
33:38
the International Energy Agency is a mix of both good and bad
33:41
news. Oh, the headline figure is a record high for energy related
33:45
emissions in 2022 to almost 37 billion tons. That's nearly a
33:50
full percent more than the prior year. On the bright side, rising
33:54
clean technologies, including solar cells and battery powered
33:56
vehicles help limit overall emissions. Oh, those
33:59
technologies are poised to play an even greater role in the
34:02
years ahead. That's according to the report. Alright, because
34:06
Jonah is an energy researcher at the Regensburg University of
34:09
Applied Sciences. He joins me for more, because thank you for
34:12
coming to the show. The IEA says that recovery from the COVID 19
34:17
pandemic is proving more sustainable than past crises. Do
34:21
you see that there is indeed good news in this report? Are we
34:24
just so desperate to find a silver lining, when overall
34:28
energy related emissions actually went up?
34:31
Now, I think it's really good news because the energy
34:33
transition is already working. Without this, we would have
34:36
three times more emission raising.
34:39
Adam Curry: It's already working, you're soaking in and
34:42
match so it's
34:42
Unknown: already helping and reaching our climate goals,
34:45
reducing energy independence in dependency, and stabilize our
34:49
economy. I mean, there are feelings of tons of co2 avoided
34:52
billions of euros that don't go through the pipelines to Russia
34:56
but remain in our economic and your European German economy.
34:59
This Stay here, they create jobs to create welfare. That's the
35:03
good side. But we also like to discuss the IRA, we need to
35:07
stabilize that by doing right policy making
35:11
Adam Curry: sure if I understand it, we've actually been too
35:15
successful because you know, people are trapped and can't get
35:18
out of Northern California, because it's all working so
35:22
well. I mean, and we still had, I mean, this should be warming
35:28
the crap out of everything, but it's not I'm baffled I don't
35:32
understand.
35:34
John C Dvorak: Because it's a hoax. I think you can go back to
35:38
the global cooling days and
35:40
Adam Curry: yes, I'm ready to believe that Oh, you don't even
35:43
believe it's because of co2. That makes more sense it just
35:48
logically because of more greenhouse gases, it's going
35:52
we're going into a global cooling that was the promise in
35:56
the 70s
35:59
John C Dvorak: but wasn't due to the greenhouse gases it was
36:02
reflections and and the reflection off especially about
36:07
off the north pole as more snow increase it reflected more heat
36:11
off the Earth had a bigger area so that area reflected the sun
36:16
and that would cause the cooling effect and once it began and the
36:21
once the I mean from what I've seen the glaciers have been
36:26
retreating. And I think that's true which is good. We don't
36:31
want glaciers they're no good
36:34
Adam Curry: they're annoying they get in
36:37
John C Dvorak: the way and then if those things stop retreating
36:41
and start going in the other direction we're in trouble
36:46
that's I'm on the lookout for Hmm good yes it's it's been the
36:54
weather here has been it's actually been quite nice around
36:57
here because what it does it rains for two days and is clear
36:59
and sunny for two days in a range like gal the current sunny
37:03
so you don't have flooding and but all that rain every time the
37:06
two days comes around. It rains here but then it goes up to the
37:10
mountains and dumps a ton like yesterday down five feet. Yeah
37:14
of snow in march up the mountain is snowing a lot. Well, is that
37:23
your weather report for yesterday?
37:24
Adam Curry: That's what I have for today. Yes, yes. That's what
37:26
I have for last time Ukrainian
37:28
John C Dvorak: stuff I want to get out with but I first of all
37:31
I want to get I have a series of clips. Okay. From Bill Browder.
37:39
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Bill Browder is is the guy who got
37:43
kicked out of Russia got put on the no entry list. And
37:46
apparently all his money was stolen.
37:49
John C Dvorak: It's even it's worth reading his wiki page. I
37:53
recommend it's like reading a novel.
37:55
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. It's true crime drama. It's phenomenal.
37:59
What this guy's
38:00
John C Dvorak: absolves as you US citizenship. He's become a UK
38:08
citizen. He has diminished ski, whatever it is, the bunch of
38:12
laws were passed. Because his lawyer was murdered by the
38:17
Russians, and it's just a damn story. Interesting story. But
38:20
he, for all practical purposes hates the Russians. Oh, yes.
38:25
Yes. Yeah. Particularly the one behind the idea that we should
38:31
steal their money.
38:35
Adam Curry: Okay, are you gonna prove to me that I'm wrong? Is
38:36
that what this is about?
38:38
John C Dvorak: I don't know what you did. That was wrong. But you
38:40
said it was not you. We could do it. But he himself says we
38:43
can't. No, no. Sovereign immunity to
38:48
Adam Curry: correction, small correction. I said, they are
38:52
doing everything they can to change whatever international
38:55
law is to be able to do it. That's exactly what I said.
39:00
John C Dvorak: I'm not gonna disagree with that. But I don't
39:03
think they're, they're making that much of an effort that you
39:06
might believe, okay, I think there's this guy and a bunch of
39:09
other people making noise is not going to happen. It'd be funny
39:13
if it did, but let's listen to him. He's on. He's on. Mmm. Poor
39:17
show. Yes. And he's being interviewed by Walter Isaacson
39:25
statuary, Eisen, whatever his name is the guy who did the
39:27
Steve Jobs biography, the guy who's got the white hair and as
39:30
azimoff,
39:31
Adam Curry: wasn't it? No one says no,
39:33
John C Dvorak: no, I isn't. The guy who did?
39:38
Adam Curry: I hear you that he's a
39:40
John C Dvorak: he looks to be a spook, as far as I'm concerned.
39:42
The head of the Aspen Institute.
39:44
Adam Curry: Isaacson, Walter Isaacson, exactly controls.
39:50
John C Dvorak: So here we go. This is kind of interesting.
39:52
Then it goes on and goes. I've got a lot of clips, but the ads
39:56
are not short, but they're not long, but they're interesting
39:59
and I think you'll like it. This is Bill Browder, one money from
40:03
Russia.
40:05
Unknown: We could isolate Russia much further than we're
40:07
currently doing. If we said to everybody, you know, it's either
40:11
us or them, and and everybody always votes with their feet and
40:15
votes with the money when it comes right down to it. We
40:17
haven't put that to them. We haven't been toughen that way.
40:20
That's one thing we could do. There's one other thing which
40:22
I've been going around the world talking about, which I think
40:26
would make a big difference in the war in Ukraine, which is
40:29
that after the war started, the first thing the Western
40:32
governments did was we thought we froze $350 billion, oh,
40:36
reserves, the war has done one, at least a trillion, maybe $1.2
40:41
trillion of damage to Ukraine. Russia has done the damage, we
40:45
have custody their money, instead of just having that
40:48
money frozen, that money should be confiscated, and handed over
40:52
to the Ukrainians both for their defense and their
40:54
reconstruction. Good and broke it, he should fix it. That's
40:59
probably the single biggest thing we could do in the very
41:01
short term, to tip the balance and Ukraine's favor in this
41:06
whole conflict,
41:07
explained to me the mechanics of confidence skating, that central
41:11
bank was so good,
41:13
well, so at the moment, those reserves are protected by
41:16
something called sovereign immunity. Sovereign Immunity
41:19
means that anything that belongs to a country estate can't be
41:23
taken away, you can't like just move into the embassy because
41:26
you would like that property, because it belongs to that
41:28
country. And normally, that would be a reasonable thing. And
41:32
that's how international law has worked for the last many, many
41:36
years.
41:37
Adam Curry: Oh, this is good. So sovereign immunity, who who?
41:41
police's, the sovereign immunity,
41:45
John C Dvorak: this done by treaties and UN resolutions and
41:49
UN, men's un. So the UN is pretty much un and if you
41:54
violate it, you are sued internationally. And
41:58
Adam Curry: if you violate it, then you get a ticket, or what
42:01
do you get then?
42:03
John C Dvorak: But can rephrase what I saw a minute ago? Yes.
42:07
Yeah, you get a ticket. Okay. UK, here's what happens. If you
42:11
do it. For example, Switzerland has a lot of the Russian money
42:14
and they refused to do anything. Because they said, people will
42:17
lose confidence in them and Switzerland, you know, banking
42:20
community, we would we would, if we did it, we would our stock
42:28
market would collapse. And the bond market would collapse ever
42:31
really. China would take their money out if he goes on about
42:35
this. But that's what would happen. We would have an
42:37
economic collapse if we tried to pull this
42:40
Adam Curry: and I can just say one thing about that. And just
42:43
quickly, because I do have some a little prepared for this. I
42:45
didn't know you're gonna do Browder. I like it, I really do
42:47
like it. We did pretty much the same thing with the Iraq
42:52
invasion of Kuwait. And the lawfare blog, I put it in the in
42:57
the show notes as a pretty good explanation of how that worked,
43:01
where we literally took their frozen money and paid in
43:04
reparations to Kuwait. So it has been done in the past. But this
43:10
may be a different scenario. I'm not a lawyer, obviously. And it
43:15
could be done through Australia, because Australia does not
43:18
participate in the sovereign immunity system. So I mean, it
43:25
seems like a long shot to do it through them. But it's not not
43:28
the whole world is on board with this.
43:31
John C Dvorak: We're running the show here, Australia, it's got
43:33
nothing to do with this situation in Ukraine, it would
43:36
be ridiculous. But let's play out this next clip to Putin
43:41
Unknown: has redefined international crime. He has
43:45
redrawn the borders of Europe, he's invaded a foreign country
43:48
he's killed. He's been a mass murderer killed the unimaginable
43:52
numbers of people. And so we're sitting there in this situation
43:55
where he's reading redefined international crime. And we're
44:00
we're sitting there saying you and your money is still
44:02
protected. We need to redefine international law, to elevate it
44:08
to the level of his the way he's become an international
44:13
criminal. And what does that mean specifically? That means
44:16
that that laws have to be passed in a number of major developed
44:19
countries, which says that sovereign immunity always
44:23
applies in every single circumstance, except in the
44:26
circumstance when a country has invaded a neighboring country
44:31
and committed an act of aggression, which is being
44:34
defined as deliberations. So that's the one narrow
44:37
circumstance where sovereign immunity no longer applies. If
44:42
we did that, if the United States and the European Union
44:45
and Great Britain and Canada and Japan rewrote their laws to say
44:49
that sovereign immunity applies in all circumstances other than
44:52
those, then we could then confiscate their money.
44:57
Adam Curry: Just to add to that, I like that, it would mean a re
45:00
writing of the rules, which is what I said that they're working
45:02
on that, in November of last year 50 nations co sponsored a
45:06
resolution on establishing an international mechanism for
45:09
compensation for damage loss and injury, as well as a register to
45:13
document evidence and claims that's the crimes of aggression,
45:18
which is now somehow is going to be the basis of a war crimes.
45:21
It's not there yet a resolution is just a resolution, but I
45:25
understand what he's saying. And that would have to happen. And
45:27
you're saying, and maybe rightly so that we'll never do that we
45:30
will never will never commit to changing and getting on board by
45:36
getting rid of the sovereign immunity.
45:40
John C Dvorak: Yes, that's my position. Okay,
45:42
Adam Curry: that's good. Let's go on with Browder, which I
45:44
hadn't had didn't expect him on Browder's side of anything.
45:49
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's that. Let's go three,
45:53
Unknown: if you wanted to confiscate the foreign reserves,
45:55
and you've talked about laws being passed in the West? Would
45:58
China and India have to go along? Well,
46:02
the thing is that all you have to do is get the countries that
46:05
have reserve currencies, revise their laws. So in other words,
46:10
we don't you know, if China, we don't keep our money in China.
46:15
So it's not a reciprocal thing. If you get the major reserve
46:18
currencies, the places where, where Russia keeps their money.
46:21
And by the way, there's one other great benefit to doing
46:24
this, which is that if we confiscate Russia's money for
46:28
invading a neighboring country, who else has got a whole bunch
46:33
of money in the West, that's I'm tryna potentially going to
46:38
invade a neighboring country, that's China. Now, some people
46:42
would argue that, that this idea is a dangerous idea, because
46:46
we're China will just like abandon all countries and keep
46:49
their money at home. But that just you know, if it's just the
46:52
US doing this, that might happen with the dollar. But if
46:54
everybody does it together that has a reserve currency, then
46:57
China will have to go along with it. They'll I mean, they have to
47:01
be scared of it.
47:04
Adam Curry: Interesting. Your mic is banging a lot. Believe
47:10
don't do anything. Yeah, we just want you grabbing it or
47:12
something. And it just did grab it. Yeah, yes. Stop grab a
47:15
router for Well, hold on. Yeah. Could they do that? I mean, it
47:21
makes no sense. I mean, doing that for Russia doing that for
47:25
any country would make everyone pissed off. It doesn't isn't
47:27
China's? Don't they have some version of reserve currency at
47:31
this point? Aren't they being used as reserve currency? why
47:33
many of those baskets? Yeah, the SDR the SDRs.
47:41
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but they got so much money in our bonds
47:43
that what they would do would dump all the bonds. Miss
47:50
definitely wouldn't. It would be bad.
47:52
Adam Curry: Just Just to follow up on that. Just because I have
47:55
these listed 7773 94 countries voted in favor of the
48:02
reparations resolution. Russia got 14 votes against and another
48:07
73 countries abstained. And this is in November, so it doesn't
48:12
seem likely. But Russia has threatened that they want to
48:15
dissolve the United Nations over this.
48:18
John C Dvorak: Well, that's pretty good.
48:22
Adam Curry: You know, I'm kind of all for that, too. I'm
48:24
confused. Now.
48:25
John C Dvorak: I want to bet we can do both. Yeah, that'd
48:27
Adam Curry: be great. All right. All right.
48:29
John C Dvorak: Now I have a clip that's called idiotic comment.
48:32
Unknown: This is clip flow for what about in the Middle East?
48:35
both Israel and the Saudis don't seem to be on board. What do you
48:39
what's the reason for that? And what can be done?
48:43
Well, I think it's it's really shameful, that the Israelis who
48:50
are Israel is a country that that was formed as sort of
48:53
reaction to a genocide are now seeing a genocide taking place
48:58
in another country and are not helping out that country. I find
49:00
that really unpleasant and, and disturbing. Wait, why is that?
49:05
Do you think? Well, their argument is that the Russians
49:08
are in Syria, Syria, poses a existential threat to Israel,
49:13
and therefore, they've got to play all different sides. I
49:18
think they could easily for example, the Israelis have an
49:21
Iron Dome defense situation, which prevents people from
49:25
bombing them. They should provide that Iron Dome defense
49:30
mechanism to Ukraine so that they're not the Ukrainian
49:33
infrastructure isn't destroyed, they can easily help the
49:35
Ukrainians with defensive weapons. What
49:41
Adam Curry: were the ones that provide the so called Iron Dome?
49:43
Not Israel's not going to get this Raytheon? Thank you.
49:47
Raytheon's the one who supply not even the US is Raytheon,
49:50
John C Dvorak: and the Iron Dome around Tel Aviv, specifically,
49:55
it doesn't work. It doesn't work a a it doesn't work. Be it's a
50:00
small area. Ukraine is the size of two massive countries like
50:06
France and Germany combined. Yeah. What are you gonna do?
50:09
How's that work? This is dumb. So when he said that I'm
50:13
thinking this guy's
50:16
Adam Curry: because he's saying the crap now then the other
50:18
stuff is crap mine is well,
50:21
John C Dvorak: yeah, like, well not like the other stuff. I
50:22
Adam Curry: like the other stuff. Again, of course you do
50:25
don't have to agree with everything you see want
50:26
John C Dvorak: to punish Russia?
50:28
Adam Curry: I don't know I want I just want to be right I don't
50:31
give a crap I don't want to post who is right. You don't want to
50:35
punish Russia. I would like the war to end so we can get on and
50:38
move over a different idea. Let's move over to China. Let's
50:41
get that going. Let's get something new happening here.
50:43
I'm tired of
50:45
John C Dvorak: clips six,
50:47
Adam Curry: six, did you do five? We didn't do five. Do you
50:50
want to skip? Oh, no, we
50:51
John C Dvorak: didn't do five sorry, five.
50:52
Unknown: And on the Saudi Arabian side. They really not
50:56
been a good ally to the United States. There historically, the
51:01
United States had a deal, which is that the Saudis keep oil
51:05
prices stable to keep the economy stable and in return.
51:09
And the United States provides a sort of military
51:11
Adam Curry: element home not entirely true. It was that we
51:14
that the Saudis would sell oil in dollars to keep it the
51:18
reserve currency of the world, not just to keep it stable. So I
51:21
don't know why he's omitting that important fact, blanket
51:24
Unknown: over Saudi Arabia so that they're protected. And the
51:27
military blanket continues to exist, but they haven't been
51:30
playing ball when it comes to oil. When the oil prices went up
51:33
because of Putin. What do they do? They cut production even
51:36
more. I think the Saudis aren't playing fair game. And nor is
51:39
the United Arab Emirates, the United Arab Emirates are hosting
51:43
scores of Russian oligarchs, numerous Russian oligarch yachts
51:47
are parked in Dubai. You know, this is another country that's
51:51
supposed to be an ally of the United States, and they're not
51:54
playing ball. And so there's a lot of blood pressure that we
51:57
could apply to, to our allies if we chose to do it. And United
52:02
States is a very powerful country. And, and I believe
52:05
shooting in all three cases,
52:07
Adam Curry: it's easy now suggesting that we go over there
52:09
and point a gun at their head, say, hey, yeah, and by the way,
52:13
how much do you think a military blanket really costs? I mean,
52:15
that's got to be very expensive blanket.
52:20
John C Dvorak: That'd be I don't know. I just find this guy's
52:25
comments about playing ball. And not playing ball.
52:29
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, they're not. They're not you know, we
52:33
know that the Saudis supposedly are selling oil to the Chinese
52:38
in the in their currency. Working stuff out.
52:43
John C Dvorak: Which of these things if that's only get
52:45
resolved, but that's all
52:46
Adam Curry: intentional. That's all to bring in climate change
52:50
or whatever your green hydrogen Add To me this intentional? Not
52:54
not from the dollar side. But oh, we just kick people off
52:58
Swift. Screw you. That China, I think that's what they would do.
53:02
Before anything out China, you probably would just kick off
53:05
Swift. Just like Russia. That's how stupid these people are, are
53:10
people.
53:14
John C Dvorak: To his right to left, let's listen to the
53:16
bullshit clip. One of the
53:17
Unknown: things you've always pushed for his going after
53:20
Putin's wealth, personally, tell me how did he get all that
53:24
money? And where is it and what can we do?
53:27
Well, so Putin doesn't keep any money in his own name. If he
53:29
did, then then whoever had the bank documents to show it could
53:33
blackmail him. Oh, so Putin has to rely on people he trusts, I
53:37
call them oligarchy trustees. And so when you see an
53:41
oligarchy, who's supposedly worth 15, or $22 billion on
53:45
paper, you can be pretty well, sure, that half that money
53:50
belongs to Vladimir Putin. And so when we sanction the
53:54
oligarchs, when we identify the biggest and richest oligarchs in
53:57
Russia, and we freeze their money, we're not just freezing
54:01
their money. We're freezing Vladimir Putin's money. And so
54:03
one of the reasons that I've been so forceful on the issue of
54:08
sanctioning Russian oligarchs is because we're sanctioning
54:11
Vladimir Putin personally. And so that we've done a good job
54:15
with that and and, you know, he says, Oh, this doesn't matter.
54:18
Well, he's, he's fuming when these oligarchs find their
54:21
assets frozen at different banks around the world
54:23
Adam Curry: that's my boat
54:27
John C Dvorak: Alright, so I found this to be one of the more
54:29
problematic and music that word clips Yeah, I
54:32
Adam Curry: agree with you on that one.
54:33
John C Dvorak: Let's start with the with the basic premise.
54:37
Putin has no money in his name because he could be blackmailed
54:41
you ever hear
54:41
Adam Curry: of the Panama Papers? You can hide that stuff
54:44
easily?
54:45
John C Dvorak: Well, what's the point of even hiding it? Right?
54:48
Adam Curry: He should have gone a different tracks except
54:50
Vladimir Putin has all his money in Bitcoin. That's what he
54:53
should have said that would have been much funnier, and much less
54:56
John C Dvorak: money but much more. It would be believable,
54:58
but say he has his money. goes he has $1,000,000,000.05 billion
55:02
I mean, they make it sound like he's got hundreds of billions a
55:05
trillion dollars. And he could be blackmailed somehow give you
55:10
blackmail again with that much money. I don't think so he's in
55:12
this Bill Gates doesn't hide his money this way. So why is he
55:15
hiding his money in the first place? But then the second thing
55:17
that really got me is that if half of the money that always
55:22
say there's a dozen oligarchs in particular, just take 12 Off the
55:26
top that are worth anywhere between 10 and 20, or $30
55:30
billion each, each one of them to half of their money belongs
55:33
to Putin. Why wouldn't they just get together and kill him? Well,
55:38
this, thank you. They just shoot Putin and you got you say you're
55:42
worth $30 trillion, or I'm sorry, $30 billion. And half of
55:47
that money actually belongs to Putin. Well, you and a bunch of
55:50
other guys, you shoot Putin, and now you're that 30 trillion, you
55:54
get the $30 billion to yourself. I mean, this is nonsense. It
55:59
makes zero sense what he said what Browder
56:02
Adam Curry: is doing here, and maybe that's part of his, his
56:06
Let's steal the money Gambit. He's continuing along the lines
56:10
of this is not about Russia. We don't hate Russia. No, it's only
56:16
one person one man, it's all of this the whole problem in the
56:19
world inflation, climate change. You know, Germany having to rape
56:24
Africa, that everything is the fault of just one man, one man
56:28
and one man only and that's Putin. It's Don't be mad at the
56:31
Russians. Be mad at one man, Putin, that this is what this is
56:36
about. For some odd reason. I guess we're going to build it up
56:39
and then try to explode a cigar or whatever, you know, that
56:42
we've tried in the past to kill him and then it'll be dingdong,
56:45
the witch is dead and everything will be over. It it's a real
56:50
it's a real build up here.
56:52
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, that's a bad idea.
56:55
Adam Curry: Probably, but look at who's running the show.
56:58
Victoria Nuland, Jake Solomon
57:00
John C Dvorak: nadie Ryohei Putin, Putin spirit gets in the
57:04
way of their schemes. So let's go now here's one that you'll
57:08
enjoy. Just the last question router. Okay. Yeah. Now, this
57:14
war isn't going to end tomorrow, like some people that we both
57:19
know, think Da, five years meant minimum, here we go, oh,
57:24
goodness, you say this
57:26
Unknown: is gonna be a long war, the way it's going now. Envision
57:30
for me what it'll be like five years from now, if this thing is
57:34
still going on the way it is?
57:36
Well, this is Putin's Putin. His his vision, in my mind, is he
57:41
knows he can win the war. But he also doesn't care about the
57:45
lives lost from his side. He doesn't really care about the,
57:51
the destruction of his of his military equipment. In this in
57:56
his mind, what he's thinking is that we're going to lose
58:00
patience before he loses patience. He's thinking that in
58:03
these democratic countries where we have elections all the time,
58:06
where we grow tired, and where we have a limited bandwidth,
58:12
that eventually we're gonna stop supporting Ukraine. And that's
58:16
his only way out of this whole thing is just to outlast us. And
58:20
so well, wait, wait, but he'd be right.
58:23
That I think that that's my biggest fear. I mean, if you
58:25
look at the trajectory of the Ukrainians right now, they're
58:28
really causing just no end of hardship for Putin and his
58:33
military. And on the current trajectory, he thought that the
58:36
Ukrainians probably would eventually succeed over some
58:40
long period of time. And so but but that we, we've, we've heard
58:46
murmurings in the United States and in Europe, from far right,
58:50
from all sorts of strange characters saying no more money
58:52
for Ukraine, no more support for Ukraine. If those murmurings
58:57
that are, at the moment, very narrow sections of of the
59:01
political establishment become bigger sections. Putin may very
59:05
well be right. And that's that's the fear I have.
59:09
Adam Curry: Oh, goodness, well, you're right. This is the Brooks
59:12
rule goes into effect. So this thing has to end quickly. Or
59:21
maybe not. Maybe not because, you know, this is the result of
59:25
the war
59:26
Unknown: as the ongoing war in Ukraine continues, the
59:28
ones profiting on defense firms Lockheed Martin, a major
59:32
American defense company, has now announced a record breaking
59:35
annual production goal after a massive success of its High
59:39
Mobility Artillery Rocket systems
59:41
are high mass systems on the battleground.
59:44
Adam Curry: Yay, record profits everybody. Beautiful. Good job,
59:50
everyone.
59:52
John C Dvorak: Yeah, here's my Ukraine update. This is in prs.
59:57
Let's see. Where is it?
59:58
Adam Curry: I got it. Ukraine update
1:00:00
John C Dvorak: NPR got
1:00:00
Unknown: Ukrainian troops are helping civilians flee the
1:00:03
eastern town of Buck mood, which Russian forces have bombed and
1:00:06
shelled for months. And piers Joanna kisses reports. military
1:00:10
analysts say Ukrainian soldiers may be preparing to pull out of
1:00:14
the Besiege city.
1:00:15
Yeah, so far Ukrainian military officials say there are no plans
1:00:19
to retreat from Bach loot, even as Russian forces inch ever
1:00:23
closer. NPR recently spoke to soldiers in northwestern Ukraine
1:00:29
training to deploy to box loot. A soldier named Vadim, who
1:00:32
declined to reveal his last name for security reasons, says he's
1:00:36
planning to release members of his battalion already there,
1:00:39
because he will be there for several weeks and we will change
1:00:42
we already but British
1:00:43
and American military analysts say Ukrainian forces have blown
1:00:47
up key bridges and back loot signaling or retreat.
1:00:50
Adam Curry: Yeah, this this is trending. The idea that Ukraine
1:00:54
will be pulling out of Buck moot, and here's my version.
1:00:58
Unknown: Well, there's a lot of speculation around here about
1:01:00
whether Ukrainian troops are preparing to withdraw.
1:01:04
Officially, the Ukrainian position is that they are not
1:01:07
withdrawing. Most soldiers that we tried to speak to said no
1:01:11
comment when asked about any plans to withdraw other so we're
1:01:15
willing to speculate a little bit. And what they said was that
1:01:18
they were not withdrawing so far, but some of them thought
1:01:21
that it was more likely that Ukrainian forces would have to
1:01:25
pull out of that route, the not the main reason being that
1:01:28
although at the moment, it's still freezing at night. So the
1:01:31
ground remains reasonably hard. That is set to change in the
1:01:34
next few days, which means it's going to get much more muddy,
1:01:37
and the ground will be much softer at the moment that
1:01:40
Ukrainians don't really have a paved road that they can use to
1:01:44
go in and out of dark moods. There was a bridge that was
1:01:47
blown up a couple of days ago, on the road that they were still
1:01:51
using, they've replaced that with a pontoon bridge. But that
1:01:55
makes things very difficult logistically for getting in and
1:01:57
out of town at the moment, they're still also able to use
1:02:01
dirt roads, but that won't be the case not for wheeled
1:02:04
vehicles anyway, once it gets more muddy. So that's that's the
1:02:07
main difficulty that they're facing at the moment.
1:02:11
Adam Curry: What I could not find in any of the reports is
1:02:13
the location of Bach moot, which is smack dab in the middle of
1:02:17
the Donbass region. So I pull out from that to me would mean
1:02:22
there's your there's your new border. Now that's so dumb boss,
1:02:26
just give that let that rest it shit anyway. We don't want it.
1:02:31
Let Russia keep that. That could be that that could be the new
1:02:34
border. And maybe that would be the way out?
1:02:39
John C Dvorak: Well, if some parties, I would put our
1:02:44
government in that category of some parties insisted on
1:02:49
negotiations in ending this thing, instead of testing
1:02:52
military gear by the boat load at the expense of our taxpayers.
1:02:59
Yeah, that probably could happen.
1:03:01
Adam Curry: That seems to be ending. I've been looking into
1:03:03
why we can't supply Ukraine with any more ammunition. And I got a
1:03:09
reasonable answer here from defense one. Their audio? I
1:03:15
guess they are the website that reports on the defense industry.
1:03:20
John C Dvorak: Yes, it's got a very good newsletter. I
1:03:22
subscribed Yes, I subscribed where
1:03:23
Adam Curry: you get all the numbers, you know 100,000 For
1:03:26
100 100 million for Lockheed 400 million for Raytheon every day,
1:03:29
by the way every single day. US US and allied production of
1:03:33
artillery ammunition has emerged as a key problem supplying
1:03:36
Ukraine which burns through 1000s of shells a day fighting
1:03:39
Russia's invasion. Ukraine may lose the war to Oh, if it
1:03:44
doesn't receive enough supplies. This is what European Union
1:03:48
foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said February 20. Now
1:03:52
here's the problem. Obtaining the raw materials might be a
1:03:55
problem eventually, but not yet. He said at an event held by the
1:03:58
Center for Strategic and International Studies. That's a
1:04:01
great group. The US already maintains large stockpiles of
1:04:05
some of the key raw materials such as the precursor chemicals
1:04:09
for explosives. But now but how much of the other raw materials
1:04:14
the US should keep in reserve is an open question. The issue
1:04:17
really is stockpiling. The question is how much can you
1:04:20
afford to do like we can't afford to print more money. The
1:04:23
US has no shortage of raw materials used for artillery
1:04:26
shell manufacture. But the production capabilities
1:04:31
potentially taking the stress off the US could come from
1:04:34
Poland. And unlikely. What seems to be the problem is steel, that
1:04:41
we just don't have enough steel to make this happen. And as I
1:04:45
read through these pieces, I just see a lot of excuses.
1:04:50
People waffling around, does that mean that we can't get
1:04:54
enough or that phony baloney steal from China? Or are we
1:04:59
going to x bought the manufacturer of some of this to
1:05:02
Poland, Australia, other countries that want to do this
1:05:07
and this, it may
1:05:08
John C Dvorak: have the same issues, I mean, the steel mostly
1:05:13
is made in China and India nowadays. And, I mean, we could
1:05:22
do make steel, but we make you know, the Steel's, that when we
1:05:28
make steel, we make specialty Steel's, you know, high end
1:05:33
stainless steels and things like that, that you use for other
1:05:36
purposes, as opposed to artillery shells. Yeah. I mean,
1:05:43
this, this whole thing may be a test of our stress test for the
1:05:48
military industrial complex. And, you know, assuming a proxy
1:05:52
war, let's assume that we were in this I mean, you can just see
1:05:55
a meeting about this with a guy with a pointer. Let's assume a
1:06:00
laser pointer where they are we are fighting the Ukrainians are
1:06:04
our soldiers. And now we have to supply them, what are the
1:06:08
bottlenecks? What are the kinks? What are the what's the what,
1:06:11
how
1:06:12
Adam Curry: about this? Supply and demand artificial shortage?
1:06:16
They just, they just want to make more money?
1:06:18
John C Dvorak: Well, that that could be an element and when
1:06:20
that wouldn't be a shocker, no. But it could be a combination of
1:06:26
both.
1:06:28
Adam Curry: And and you know, the general word is how we have
1:06:31
to save some for China. We got it. Even the Secretary of the
1:06:34
Army was saying, Yeah, we shouldn't be given f 16. So
1:06:37
Ukraine, we got to send them to Taiwan. We got to get it ready
1:06:40
for China. 2027. We only have a few years left. There solidly
1:06:47
running the show here. The MICC companies, they have everybody
1:06:54
by the balls. That mainly the US taxpayers.
1:06:59
John C Dvorak: So there's you're talking about Ukraine. I do have
1:07:01
an ask Adam series.
1:07:03
Adam Curry: Okay. This is always fun. I wasn't
1:07:07
John C Dvorak: three clips. There's the one with the answer.
1:07:10
And then there's geopolitical, ignore those. That's number
1:07:12
three. This third clip Hold on.
1:07:17
Adam Curry: One of our favorite gambits here, ladies and
1:07:19
gentlemen, the ask Adam segment. All right,
1:07:22
John C Dvorak: okay. This is ask Adam, Ukraine supply ready, you
1:07:27
get it.
1:07:27
Unknown: In the early months of the Russian invasion of Ukraine,
1:07:30
Ukraine supply lines were abruptly cut off. One of the
1:07:33
supplies people could no longer get
1:07:37
John C Dvorak: is Russia.
1:07:39
Adam Curry: Ooh, one of the supplies people create again,
1:07:41
but again, this is a good question. The
1:07:45
Unknown: early months of the Russian invasion of Ukraine,
1:07:47
Ukraine supply lines were abruptly cut off one of the
1:07:50
supplies people could no longer get,
1:07:53
Adam Curry: ah, birth control pills.
1:08:00
John C Dvorak: I'll give you a point for that.
1:08:02
Adam Curry: Thank you. To
1:08:05
Unknown: the early months of the Russian invasion of Ukraine,
1:08:07
Ukraine supply lines were abruptly cut off one of the
1:08:11
supplies people could no longer get abortion pills. Were so
1:08:14
Adam Curry: close. Wow, I was gonna say Viagra at first but
1:08:23
then like, now you're
1:08:24
John C Dvorak: kind of on the right track. But yeah, but you
1:08:28
know, since this is kind of, let's make some points here.
1:08:32
abortion pills. NPR.
1:08:34
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, I thought that they were on the
1:08:35
last show. We we have Ukrainian men freezing their sperm so that
1:08:39
they can still build a country of young Ukrainians if they get
1:08:44
killed on the front lines. Then now the next show four days
1:08:47
later, we hear that abortion pills with a problem.
1:08:52
John C Dvorak: Just grow. Let's make it so we've worked. We had
1:08:54
these war reports over the last 15 years now. And again. Yeah,
1:08:58
we have to make sure that we angle this the right way. So
1:09:01
here's the bonus clip that follows all this other stuff.
1:09:04
Ask Adam geopolitical three.
1:09:06
Unknown: And the reason the first reason was
1:09:09
rape cases. Oh, the request that first sparked this donation of
1:09:14
pills was a plea on behalf of women raped by Russian soldiers.
1:09:20
Adam Curry: My goodness, I could have figured that one out. Oh my
1:09:23
goodness. It's all it's always some bull crap like that, isn't
1:09:26
it? They're raping the women. They're handing out Viagra so
1:09:32
they can rape all the women. No man
1:09:39
John C Dvorak: that things are changing that much.
1:09:43
Adam Curry: That's so lame. I thought I had something on this.
1:09:48
Oh, no. If we just get off Ukraine for a minute, I'm kind
1:09:51
of bored of it. There was I'm good. Yeah, you're good. It was
1:09:55
a similar Gambit being used in Iran. You know, because we still
1:09:58
have to kick Iran was asked for whatever, you know, I know it's
1:10:03
subjugate them to our deal or whatever it is now Iran is
1:10:06
coming back or Iran is trending, and it's trending with the
1:10:09
poisoning of the school girls.
1:10:12
Unknown: Let's bring you some breaking news coming out of Iran
1:10:15
where dozens of school girls across five provinces are in
1:10:19
hospital after a new wave of suspected poisoning attacks. Of
1:10:23
course, the authorities have said that it's Iran's enemies
1:10:28
are behind this. But that's pretty vague in itself. Are they
1:10:31
being any clearer about where the finger of blame is being
1:10:35
pointed? No,
1:10:36
for right now, there is no clear answer being provided by any
1:10:41
officials in government. We heard from the Iranian President
1:10:45
Ibrahim Bracy. During his speech on Friday, he accused Western
1:10:48
powers of carrying out these attacks to try and create
1:10:53
instability in Iran and try to create fear amongst the parents
1:10:58
of these girls of school girls in general in the country. We
1:11:01
know that the President has tasked the interior minister to
1:11:05
look into these attacks, and also trying to figure out what
1:11:08
is happening and to prevent them from taking place. We understand
1:11:11
that the various levels of intelligence apparatus is in the
1:11:13
country are also working with the interior ministry. But I
1:11:17
think it's important to point out that we don't have any clear
1:11:19
answers. And the officials haven't provided any evidence
1:11:23
that they've come up with that would prove Western powers to be
1:11:26
involved or foreign powers to be involved in these attacks. What
1:11:29
is clear is that they are increasing in numbers, which is
1:11:32
only making parents more worried. I've spoken to a number
1:11:36
of parents over the past few hours, who say they're clearly
1:11:40
worried about their daughters, and they're not sure if they
1:11:42
will send them back to school in the coming days.
1:11:45
Adam Curry: All right, what is missing from this report? Which
1:11:47
she says clearly a lot. What is missing from the report?
1:11:51
John C Dvorak: Well, to me what's missing is the day Ronnie
1:11:54
has don't want to girls to go to school. Pretty much like the
1:11:58
Taliban.
1:11:59
Adam Curry: Well, so that's why reports here eventually will
1:12:02
starve all that, you know, the the Taliban or do the regime
1:12:06
which we need to change and Iran is poisoning the school girls
1:12:09
don't want them to go to school. But what's missing? Is any
1:12:13
analysis of the poison being used. Not a single word.
1:12:18
John C Dvorak: Excellent. Not.
1:12:19
Adam Curry: Now, what do I think it could be? We go back to
1:12:23
Havana syndrome. Because you see all these videos of these girls
1:12:28
lying on on Cops filling up the hallways. And by the way, that
1:12:33
could be a total. You know, they're they're, they're
1:12:36
throwing babies out of incubators. That's also
1:12:38
possible. I don't know. You know, that would that would be a
1:12:41
good one. Yeah, it could be staged. It could be staged. But
1:12:44
I don't see them puking. And I don't see puke everywhere. I
1:12:48
don't see any of I don't see them going into convulsions just
1:12:51
lay in there. They're looking like, oh, I don't feel good.
1:12:55
Could this be a Havana syndrome weapon? We may be we may be
1:12:59
using that. It's just there's something screwy about this
1:13:03
story. And the end the lack of any type of toxic toxicology
1:13:09
reporting is telling I think so it's either phony. Or it could
1:13:14
be something like one of one of our Havana syndrome weapons,
1:13:17
which I think we've pretty much deconstructed the intelligence
1:13:20
agencies are using on each other.
1:13:26
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't I doubt if you have anything to do
1:13:29
with this is something else. But I just don't see why. What's the
1:13:34
point? I mean, I mean, we play these sorts of games, you know,
1:13:38
but that that's pretty granular. It seems to me, for us to be
1:13:43
involved. I think if we're going to zap somebody with these
1:13:46
things, we SAP a couple of high up guys and have some fun.
1:13:53
Adam Curry: That's why don't we do that to Putin. We should zap
1:13:56
him again. Now. Now you're talking Mr. Putin. Zap. Zap. And
1:14:02
you know what the military industrial complex doesn't want
1:14:04
Putin zapped we can't have that happening. What will happen to
1:14:09
sales if the war in Ukraine ends prematurely before positioned
1:14:13
for the war in China or the war over Taiwan or whatever we're
1:14:16
going to call it
1:14:18
John C Dvorak: the war in Asia that's been scheduled for 2020
1:14:21
successive ways off 2027 2027.
1:14:25
Adam Curry: That was 26. No is 2020. So that's what the CIA
1:14:28
told. told us was CIA guy.
1:14:31
John C Dvorak: Places seven Yeah, hold
1:14:32
Adam Curry: on. Birds. Bill Burns. Yeah, here it is
1:14:36
preparing
1:14:37
Unknown: countries are increasingly wary of China,
1:14:40
which is continuing its military buildup. The head of the US
1:14:44
Central Intelligence Agency is warning of China's intentions in
1:14:48
the Indo Pacific. William Byrne says President shooting ping
1:14:52
appears to be readying for an invasion of Taiwan by 2027.
1:14:58
We know as a matter of inter allegiance that he's instructed
1:15:02
the People's Liberation Army to be ready by 2027 to conduct a
1:15:07
successful invasion. Now, that does not mean that he's decided
1:15:11
to conduct an invasion in 2027 or any other year. But it's a
1:15:16
reminder of the seriousness of his focus and his ambition.
1:15:20
Burns warned she should not be underestimated. The Chinese
1:15:24
president is currently serving his third term in office. It
1:15:27
expires in 2027. Burns. She is closely watching Russia's
1:15:33
invasion of Ukraine, and is likely unsettled in a little
1:15:37
sobered by the performance of the Russian military. There you
1:15:41
go.
1:15:42
John C Dvorak: There was yeah, he needs a little action for a
1:15:45
reelection. Oh, totally. It's an old classic, classic Gambit. So
1:15:50
there was a when George Bush ran for reelection, and all of a
1:15:54
sudden we were on Orange Alert. Remember those things at the
1:15:56
airport?
1:15:58
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. Was it was it just?
1:16:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was just before the election, and
1:16:04
everyone condemned him for being using it as a political ploy to
1:16:08
get reelected. Right. Right. Guess what? It may, if I may ask
1:16:14
you to guess. Go ahead. I'll try. He, it was a political
1:16:19
ploy. Yeah,
1:16:24
Adam Curry: so the Treaty of the sea has been agreed to but not
1:16:33
signed. But this was a big thing this week at at the United
1:16:37
Nations. And the Treaty of the sea, pushes out a zone I think
1:16:44
it's 200 miles from which is like incredible amount 200 miles
1:16:49
from any country's economic, exclusive economic zone. And
1:16:55
that will be a protected zone that, you know, you can't fish
1:17:00
in and do all kinds of stuff. And, you know, it's like, it was
1:17:05
really kind of unclear what the point was of everyone making
1:17:08
such a big deal out of this. Although I do recall Hillary
1:17:11
Clinton being all jacked up on the on the Treaty of the see
1:17:15
years and years ago, actually. Here 2003 2003, we were playing
1:17:22
this,
1:17:23
Unknown: the 2003 treaty between Russia and Ukraine,
1:17:26
Adam Curry: our way is 2018 Sorry,
1:17:30
Unknown: designates the current Strait and this Sea of Azov has
1:17:33
shared territorial waters. But Moscow has been asserting
1:17:36
greater control over the area since its annexation of the
1:17:40
Crimean Peninsula in 2014, particularly since the May this
1:17:44
year, when it opened the new 19 Kilometer bridge linking the
1:17:47
peninsula to Russia and territory to the east of the
1:17:50
current strait.
1:17:51
Adam Curry: So it extends your economic zone essentially. So
1:17:56
although they didn't get a full on text of this resolution, the
1:18:01
United Nations everyone was all GD and all Jackson all happy
1:18:03
about it. And I'm like, What could this mean? Why is this so
1:18:07
important? And then I found this.
1:18:08
Unknown: So let's now talk about Ireland. There are islands with
1:18:13
an area of less than the Vatican City sometimes claimed back
1:18:16
three or even more countries, seemingly insignificant islands
1:18:22
holds strategic and economic treasure for countries. Every
1:18:27
Island offshore provides an avenue for military and naval
1:18:30
bases. The 200 nautical miles area around the island source
1:18:36
falling in a country's exclusive economic zone, which means that
1:18:40
the particular nation can lay exclusive claim to all the
1:18:44
resources available in this area. Now consider this. Our
1:18:49
country recently found that it has not one, not two, but over
1:18:53
7000 Islands, which were previously not accounted for.
1:18:59
The country which has hid the treasure is Japan.
1:19:03
Adam Curry: So Japan could extend its economic zone with
1:19:06
military hardware ours by an extra 200 miles. Wouldn't that
1:19:11
be convenient? For them? Yes, that's the point. Move towards
1:19:16
China. Vietnam,
1:19:20
John C Dvorak: we have situation. Sorry. What happens
1:19:24
when you have a situation this used to be a big deal back in
1:19:27
the Nixonian era, where you have two islands, Clem Moy and Matt
1:19:32
Sue. Yeah, that are across from each other when owned by
1:19:37
sequence Chinese and was Japan or was Korean? I don't know what
1:19:40
the two countries are. Yeah. But they're with the island
1:19:44
themselves, as you say any random two islands that are
1:19:46
owned by two different countries are within 200 miles of
1:19:49
Adam Curry: each. Yeah, that's a problem. No.
1:19:52
John C Dvorak: Well, there has to be resolved in the treaty. It
1:19:54
has
1:19:54
Adam Curry: to be resolved with violence. Come on. We're going
1:19:59
from via On some and not for and just any old treaty that's no
1:20:02
fun. We want some some action gotta get something going here
1:20:09
John C Dvorak: now Ma'am you really liked that woman that's
1:20:12
what I get a kick out of it you follow her? Oh,
1:20:15
Adam Curry: this is not a Paki Sharma. No, no, no, no, this
1:20:21
John C Dvorak: is this is he says just like her.
1:20:23
Adam Curry: Hello wi o n. That's racist of you to say but yes,
1:20:27
the Indian women often sound alike. Now she's gone to
1:20:31
something called first post or
1:20:33
John C Dvorak: then when she leaves wi O
1:20:35
Adam Curry: N Yes, she left lb IO and this is W IO n and so
1:20:38
they just put a replace a sound alike. Moment. I think I think
1:20:42
they all kind of sound like you know, I'm just saying no. And
1:20:48
yeah, well, the difference
1:20:50
John C Dvorak: is you'll be hearing from our Brahm and I
1:20:51
know
1:20:53
Adam Curry: the difference is this lady leaves long pauses in
1:20:56
between, I actually I left the first one in but I cut most of
1:20:59
them out because she really leaves you speaking of such more
1:21:03
response from my rant against pod speeding that is now the
1:21:08
official term pod fasting was not working for everybody. Pod
1:21:11
speeding is the act of listening to a podcast at more than the
1:21:16
normal speed. We have unscientific evidence, but a lot
1:21:20
of a lot of accounts of firsthand accounts of people
1:21:25
saying that it has hijacked their nervous system, they have
1:21:28
no patience with the people around them people they love
1:21:31
their spouses, their children, their co workers, that it makes
1:21:35
them jittery and they're just there are two more pieces that
1:21:38
came in that I would like to share. Because
1:21:41
John C Dvorak: I want to mention something here. Yes. I have
1:21:44
gotten some complaining notes about this about your obsession
1:21:47
with this. Yes, I'm just trying to save lives that's all and I
1:21:51
I'm backing you on this because I think it's interesting the
1:21:54
Adam Curry: people who are complaining There you go they
1:21:56
are already irritated by us even
1:21:59
John C Dvorak: talking about this irritated Yes. Thanks
1:22:03
Adam Curry: for opening my eyes to the pod speeding side effects
1:22:05
my pod fasting or pod speeding use case was this. I tried to
1:22:09
listen to the show live on pod verse on Thursday and Sunday
1:22:12
evening here in Germany, but my wife wouldn't let me listen to
1:22:15
the whole show. So the next morning, I would 1.25 it to re
1:22:19
listen to the bits I heard live and catch up on missed out
1:22:22
sections. This of course meant that I'm really fidgety on
1:22:26
Fridays on Mondays and now I know why and will not do it
1:22:29
again. How about that? And, and this final one from Muskogee
1:22:37
Earl of the Piedmont. The discussion about audio playback
1:22:41
speed has given me much to contemplate about my blind
1:22:44
parents. My dad lost his eyesight entirely when he was
1:22:47
12. In his adult life, he listened to 1000s of hours of
1:22:50
audio books, most of which he checked out for free from the
1:22:53
National Library for the Blind. At the time, the NLB provided
1:22:57
cassette players with playback speed control. In later years he
1:23:00
listened to digital audio books regardless of the format. My dad
1:23:03
routinely listen to audiobooks and eventually podcasts on
1:23:06
playback much greater than 1x speed. My dad died in 2019 he
1:23:11
was diagnosed with frontal temporal lobe dementia. Just
1:23:15
days Brian prior to his death, he struggled often with anxiety
1:23:18
and depression in his later years. Now my mom has been blind
1:23:22
since birth, she was a medical transcriptionist for nearly 50
1:23:26
years. For decades, her words per minute was 120 Plus, and she
1:23:30
often listened to dictation at speeds much greater than 1x. For
1:23:34
the last two years, my siblings and I have observed what we fear
1:23:38
are signs of decline in our cognitive ability. Your point
1:23:42
about resonance makes me wonder if long term exposure to
1:23:45
unnatural resonance can be a factor in cognitive decline.
1:23:50
I've consumed a lot of podcasts and audiobooks in recent years.
1:23:53
Other producers have noted playback speed was based on the
1:23:56
presenters or narrators and I agree some have slow cadence I
1:24:00
never listened to NA. at speeds greater than 1.0 normal rate is
1:24:05
perfect in fact off putting me to higher playback speeds. But I
1:24:10
think that maybe we've struck something here about depression
1:24:14
and anxiety. We could be saving lives with this John
1:24:21
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm gonna give it to you you're the one
1:24:23
doing it. But I'm a I'm interested in this this is
1:24:27
fascinating. We need to think about it probably there's gotta
1:24:31
be something to it because if you start listening to
1:24:33
everything at 1.5 or I don't know could you listen to it to
1:24:37
all some people do Sure. I think you could if you had the right
1:24:40
pitch kind of thing it was accounting for pitch so just
1:24:43
know
1:24:43
Adam Curry: that works and of the pitch control is built into
1:24:46
these systems. You know, it's like it rarely changes the
1:24:48
pitch. They
1:24:49
John C Dvorak: first they chop outside. Well, you sound normal,
1:24:51
but you're talking real fast. You start really fast like this
1:24:53
little bit of detail. Yeah, but understand by clear,
1:24:57
Adam Curry: the problem is not listening to the podcast, the
1:25:00
problem is the rest of the world. That's the problem. You
1:25:03
can get depressed if anyone's slow and not moving at your
1:25:06
speed. And you do a drive. You're not anxious. Yes, yes.
1:25:12
John C Dvorak: You should probably be listening to podcast
1:25:14
at point eight. No. Now I did get some notes from people
1:25:19
saying they listen to half speed now. Like a couple of drunk.
1:25:24
Adam Curry: People are just making fun of us by saying no
1:25:26
one listens at a lower speed. I don't even know. I don't even
1:25:28
know why they put lower speed in it. Except for Ben's point, Ben
1:25:32
Shapiro, maybe maybe?
1:25:35
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Shapiro. There's a couple other people.
1:25:37
Yeah.
1:25:37
Adam Curry: Anyway, I'm only doing this. I've given up on my
1:25:42
art or art of creating beautiful programming, given up on that.
1:25:47
Oh, by the way, we've been accused of being wrong. left at
1:25:52
least 20 times. You want to go through this? Because he has
1:25:56
this guy gives three examples.
1:25:58
John C Dvorak: Here we have a mayor culpa, we have to
1:26:00
apologize for being
1:26:01
Adam Curry: mayor, maybe maybe not. This is from black metal
1:26:04
cowboy. He says over the last several weeks of episodes. I've
1:26:07
never heard from this guy before. I've noticed instances
1:26:09
in which you want to be
1:26:10
John C Dvorak: getting weird notes from people that don't
1:26:13
show up in the database.
1:26:15
Adam Curry: Exactly. I've noted instances in which you and John
1:26:19
have made factually incorrect claims. I do not believe you're
1:26:22
doing so purposely to mislead your producers. You just don't
1:26:25
know you're wrong. Okay, the danger comes the Danger Danger.
1:26:32
Your producers hold you in such high value. They believe what
1:26:35
you speak is factually correct by default. This confirmation
1:26:38
bias leads them to blindly appeal to your authority and
1:26:41
propagate all of what you have said is factual. Below, I have
1:26:45
included three of the approximately 20 instances I've
1:26:47
noted over the last 15 episodes. I am not an expert in any of
1:26:51
these subjects as a mechanical engineer with over 20 years of
1:26:54
experience in the aerospace and defense industry, whose role is
1:26:57
currently evaluating and investigating design failures,
1:26:59
but critical thinking research is so critical thinking and
1:27:01
research regardless of the subject. Okay, so he feels it is
1:27:05
his duty to apply the same standards that have no agenda
1:27:08
show.
1:27:08
John C Dvorak: I'm glad to get the list of all 20 items. So
1:27:10
Adam Curry: he's approximately 20 He only has three. And he
1:27:14
starts off John offers his belief that vasectomy has
1:27:18
changed the appearance and mannerisms of men, likening them
1:27:22
to quote old lesbians he has he further claims this change is so
1:27:28
profound he can pick out men with vasectomy is from a crowd.
1:27:32
He also claimed vasectomy reversals are almost never
1:27:34
successful. This claim is incorrect. Hold on
1:27:38
John C Dvorak: now that claims it was what he's doing here.
1:27:41
This is dissected, does approach Yes, is to bring up all my
1:27:46
opinions, which had been verified by more than a few
1:27:49
people that and in fact, it comes from the books that were
1:27:52
written about this in the mid 20s 1920s. Were vasectomies were
1:27:57
considered considered a use a way of making yourself look more
1:28:01
useful. And and he's in he's taken that and then conflated it
1:28:08
with the with what he thinks is just a wrong opinion that that
1:28:12
vasectomies can't be reversed. I'm
1:28:14
Adam Curry: going to help you on this. Let's let's read on.
1:28:17
Roughly half a million men undergo vasectomy in the US each
1:28:21
year would have been nice if he included a source to this, by
1:28:23
John C Dvorak: the way, stop. I'm sorry to pull it care. But
1:28:27
go ahead. Go ahead. The guy writing in has had a vasectomy.
1:28:33
Adam Curry: Absolutely. That's why it's number one, no doubt
1:28:36
about it. But he I think he reads Wikipedia. Anyway, roughly
1:28:41
half a million men undergo vasectomies in the US each year
1:28:44
roughly 6% will decide to undergo a reversal. According to
1:28:48
Stanford Medicine, no link 90% of those procedures are
1:28:52
effective. Even if one were to debate the definition of
1:28:56
effective it is still wait, let me you'll love this. It is still
1:29:00
a far cry from John's quote. Almost never. Okay, since you
1:29:05
put that in quotes, black metal cowboy. We do have a transcript
1:29:09
tool which Thank you very much Steven B. Transcript tool where
1:29:13
I can search our transcripts going back about three years and
1:29:17
here is exactly what John said what you quoted. You quoted him
1:29:20
as saying almost never effective you know so now he's got to
1:29:26
reverse this. It which rarely works well you know, he doesn't
1:29:31
he doesn't he rarely works is the quote my friend not almost
1:29:34
never rarely works.
1:29:36
John C Dvorak: Yeah. If you're gonna be this kind of picky guy.
1:29:38
Exactly.
1:29:40
Adam Curry: By the way, I'm going to use this against you
1:29:41
all the time too, because it's really fast. Record regarding
1:29:44
vasectomy is changing. You won't
1:29:45
John C Dvorak: get very far.
1:29:50
Adam Curry: Hold on, is Did you also say old lesbians? I don't
1:29:54
know if you said old lesbians. No, you think so. You didn't say
1:29:57
old lesbians. You did not Now well I know Hold on, hold on,
1:30:03
hold on the exact opposite is true. Listen to this
1:30:07
John C Dvorak: noticing these guys started to have a youthful
1:30:10
look. as they got older they started looking like young
1:30:15
lesbians.
1:30:16
Adam Curry: Lesbians not all right, okay for you. For me,
1:30:21
study after study, most of which are infuriatingly paywalled has
1:30:25
shown there is no charge in hormone, no change in hormone
1:30:28
levels of men who undergo vasectomies. There are studies
1:30:31
that show emotional changes resulting from vasectomy ie
1:30:34
feeling less masculine, but those emotions are purely
1:30:36
psychological and revert over time. Studies aside by what
1:30:41
mechanic would have mechanics would have said to me invoke
1:30:44
these changes, John speaks up well, you've got everything
1:30:46
wrong so far. All of a second he does is prevent prevent storm
1:30:50
sperm from entering the semen. The testes still produce the
1:30:54
same hormones and release them. This guy is snipped. I agree
1:30:58
with you there. So your response other than he got all of your
1:31:04
quotes wrong,
1:31:06
John C Dvorak: besides getting all my quotes wrong, including
1:31:08
young lesbians. Okay, I don't care. I'm just telling you what
1:31:15
I think I and I, and I have been able to spot these other people
1:31:18
have to exactly and it's and it's been documented in a number
1:31:22
of books in the in the 20s when this was a very popular
1:31:24
procedure.
1:31:25
Adam Curry: And it was done specifically to give people a
1:31:27
young look correct?
1:31:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was, yeah, it had specifically to
1:31:32
give people a min or a youthful appearance.
1:31:36
Adam Curry: The second one is about me, Adam pointelle. I love
1:31:41
doing this. Adam points out earthquakes are no longer
1:31:44
measured using the Richter scale and imply something nefarious is
1:31:47
at foot, or at least this is incompetence in reporting of
1:31:51
earthquakes. I am not a seismologist, but the answer was
1:31:54
easy to find. In fact, Wikipedia has a well known, highly
1:31:59
detailed overview on the subject. And then he goes into
1:32:04
the change that was made to the Richter scale. And all I said,
1:32:08
All I said was they used the momentum scale. And that was
1:32:12
changed to make the numbers much bigger than the Richter scale,
1:32:16
which is used in mainstream media to make things sound often
1:32:20
much worse than they are. When it comes to nefarious things
1:32:24
being at foot that is regarding the earthquake machine. As the
1:32:29
Secretary of Defense in 1987, I'm going to say Richard Cohen
1:32:34
specifically said we and other countries have earthquake
1:32:39
technology to evoke earthquakes. So there's no debunking on that.
1:32:45
But maybe in this one particular case, we didn't. I didn't delve
1:32:49
into the moment, the momentum scale versus the Richter scale,
1:32:55
so you should probably listen a little bit more before you jump.
1:32:59
Now the third one is my favorite. And this is not even
1:33:02
you it's about your wife, which is which is just gets me mad.
1:33:06
Yeah, he blames you, but it's from me. John claims eggs should
1:33:13
never be salted before cooking, because the salt makes them
1:33:17
tough. Is that? Is that what you said? It makes them tough.
1:33:21
John C Dvorak: This is Mimi's thing. I've never I mean, I've
1:33:23
said it by I'm always referring to her. She's the AIG expert.
1:33:26
She wrote a 700 page book too many eggs.com It's available for
1:33:30
free on a PDF, just sign up for it. And she is the expert on
1:33:35
Asus. She said this and other people have written down since I
1:33:39
mentioned it on the show. That then they all said the same
1:33:43
thing that eggs taste better this way.
1:33:44
Adam Curry: Now he says they're tough. They are tough. Did you
1:33:49
John C Dvorak: actually that's what Mimi said Mimi said. It
1:33:51
makes them tough. And there are other I think Gordon Ramsay also
1:33:55
subscribes to this thesis.
1:33:57
Adam Curry: This belief is found in many cookbooks and propagated
1:34:00
by many famous chefs. In addition to making them talk
1:34:03
they say salting eggs before cooking will turn them gay I
1:34:06
mean gray. Others make a contradictory claim that salt
1:34:10
will make them turn watery. However, numerous recent
1:34:13
experiments no link provided have shown only incorrect salt
1:34:17
does not impact color or texture. Regardless of how far
1:34:20
ahead of cooking salt was added. Added. cooking method and
1:34:23
temperature are the drivers of texture and color. In fact,
1:34:27
John's claim doesn't even match with how the chemistry works.
1:34:30
The egg proteins are mostly negatively charged which keeps
1:34:33
them apart until high heat is applied. The salt dissolves into
1:34:37
positive and negative ions which neutralize the charge of the
1:34:40
proteins, allowing them to coagulate at lower temperature
1:34:43
producing a more tender scrambled egg. Dude this is the
1:34:49
kind of stuff with Ken just drives me nuts. I love it drives
1:34:54
me nuts.
1:34:55
John C Dvorak: I wish this guy would take it that egg
1:34:57
commentary. Yeah, that was links Yes, and then help them posted
1:35:01
on the AIG blog that's floating around somewhere that egg blog
1:35:05
nice a blog, and it's posted. It'd be great. We use it.
1:35:09
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. Now that we've been proven to be a
1:35:15
factually, I'd
1:35:16
John C Dvorak: like to know what the other 17 items are.
1:35:20
Adam Curry: If they're all of this severity, people should
1:35:22
still slip they suck these. By the way, let
1:35:25
John C Dvorak: me just say this. This is
1:35:28
Adam Curry: the black metal cowboy, a black
1:35:30
John C Dvorak: male cowboy you suck. These IDs is not even
1:35:34
close to being something worth complaining about.
1:35:36
Adam Curry: I agree. I agree. If you really want to complain
1:35:40
about something, do it Russell branded. Did you see Oh,
1:35:43
Russell? Russell Brand. Let's just set and I want to I want to
1:35:47
play this clip. Because it's the
1:35:49
John C Dvorak: one with Heilmann Yes. Oh, Heilmann couldn't get a
1:35:53
word in Edge. Hi, almonds a doofus. Now. Russell Russell
1:35:57
Brand is really sharp.
1:36:00
Adam Curry: You know? heileman? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
1:36:04
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know Heilmann where you
1:36:05
Adam Curry: would you say in the past, you might even have
1:36:07
considered each other acquaintances or friends?
1:36:09
John C Dvorak: I would say acquaintances for sure. I never
1:36:12
been there was the rule is and anyone out there was an old
1:36:16
friend acquaintance. Whatever. Nobody's your friend unless
1:36:21
you've been to their house for lunch or dinner, or they've been
1:36:25
to your house for lunch or dinner.
1:36:27
Adam Curry: Now, I would say I've been to your house once for
1:36:30
dinner. I don't think we're friends.
1:36:35
John C Dvorak: No, no. Okay. It's not an exclusive thing. I'm
1:36:39
saying. If somebody if you say some as your friend, and they
1:36:42
you don't have that qualifier in their house, or they've been to
1:36:45
your house for lunch or dinner, then they are definitely not
1:36:47
your friend. Yes. I've been to plenty of people's houses for
1:36:51
lunch and dinner or whatever. And I don't consider them my
1:36:54
friends or their acquaintances or be somebody I might not even
1:36:57
like them. Yeah, exactly. That's different. Exactly.
1:37:00
Adam Curry: So John Holman who I think he's, he does mainly
1:37:05
reports. You know, he does opinion I think for morning,
1:37:08
Joe. Certainly. He's a part of the Morning Joe team, although I
1:37:12
think a lot of times not he's on remote. He's not always in the
1:37:15
studio. And but he also think appears on other shows. But he's
1:37:23
always very opinionated. And he's part of and this is the
1:37:26
context of what happened here. It was it was fantastic segment.
1:37:30
The context is that MSNBC, CNN, me, but also, I mean, anything
1:37:35
every news organization, cable network or otherwise, has been
1:37:40
trying to discredit FoxNews by saying they're such liars. They
1:37:46
didn't even believe the January 6, election stolen conspiracy.
1:37:52
Would they? They said they did on the on, on Fox News. But
1:37:56
privately they all said, Oh, they don't believe it. And this
1:37:58
has just been ongoing when he'd been debunking for a while.
1:38:02
Yeah. Which is just, it's annoying. When you're making
1:38:06
each other the news story is what you're doing. And you're
1:38:08
you're discrediting the entire news business. And and it took
1:38:12
Russell Brand and I appreciate this and part of it is because
1:38:16
of his accent, the use the words he uses his incredible command
1:38:21
of language, and something that that I didn't like, but I think
1:38:26
it's effective. He touches Heilmann all the time. Graduates
1:38:31
John C Dvorak: not sure what technique of persuasion that is,
1:38:35
it's dangerous
1:38:36
Adam Curry: because I would say get your hands off of me you lie
1:38:38
me, bitch.
1:38:41
John C Dvorak: That's what how am I said he would know that in
1:38:42
advance.
1:38:43
Adam Curry: Oh, maybe. Okay, because he was also calling him
1:38:46
Darling. Darling and he would touch his arm which like that's
1:38:49
really aggressive.
1:38:51
John C Dvorak: He was he was sitting for this is to back this
1:38:56
up. This is from the Bill Maher show just this last Friday.
1:38:58
Yeah. And and they had Russell Brand on him Russell Brand took
1:39:03
over the show. I mean, he's one of those guys. You'd be hard to
1:39:06
work with. Because he's a he's a mic hog, but he's really good at
1:39:10
it. And he's very good at it. Yeah. And so he's a he'd be
1:39:17
tough. He'd be one of those guys you don't want to work with no
1:39:20
because he's gonna dominate me he his ability to handle Seymour
1:39:26
Hersh. There was was one indicator, very good, very rare.
1:39:30
He is a natural at this. And I have to say he's fine. He's
1:39:36
feeling his oats. And when he sees somebody that's weak and
1:39:40
Heilmann is not Johann is a writer who doesn't you know, he
1:39:44
doesn't have the kind of broadcasting chops or
1:39:47
performance chops that a guy like Russell Brand has. Yeah.
1:39:51
And I and Russell Brand may actually be boosted on something
1:39:54
too, for all I know, although I don't see I don't know. I think
1:39:58
he's clean. I mean, he probably is
1:40:00
Adam Curry: He was on heroin for a while there. He's clean. But
1:40:02
he
1:40:02
John C Dvorak: is. He sees a weak guy. And he's just
1:40:07
steamrolls him. Steve steamrolled him.
1:40:12
Adam Curry: He did. It's a three minute clip, but it's well worth
1:40:15
it. Sean,
1:40:15
Unknown: I've not known you long, but I love you already.
1:40:17
But I have to say that it's
1:40:19
Adam Curry: actually I think he's a master NLP guy or
1:40:22
persuader, saying stuff like that. That right off the bat. I
1:40:25
don't know who you are by love you already. These are very
1:40:29
powerful, very powerful things he's doing. He's bright brand
1:40:32
has chops in this, John,
1:40:33
Unknown: I've not known you long, but I love you already.
1:40:35
But I have to say that it's, it's disingenuous to claim that
1:40:39
the biases that are exhibited on Fox News are any different from
1:40:42
the biases exhibited on MSNBC, it's difficult to suggest that
1:40:46
these corporations operate as anything other than mouthpieces
1:40:50
for their affiliate owners in Black Rock and Vanguard, unless
1:40:54
we start to embrace and then also make like just spiritually
1:40:58
if I may use that word in your great country. We have to take
1:41:02
responsibility for our own perspective. I've been on that
1:41:06
MSNBC May it was propagandists not crackery. It was absurd the
1:41:12
way they carried on and it was it wasn't the morning there was
1:41:16
no one called Joe then concentrate. They didn't
1:41:19
understand the basic tenets of June journalism. No one was
1:41:22
willing to stick up for genuine American here
1:41:25
Adam Curry: and listen to the audience. By the way, the
1:41:27
audience who you would presume be mostly leftists at the Bill
1:41:31
Maher show they are up there applauding for a lot of things
1:41:34
that if any other right of center person said would be
1:41:38
Whoa.
1:41:41
Unknown: Like Edward Snowden, no one was willing to talk about
1:41:43
Julian Assange and what He suffered, trying to bring real
1:41:46
journalism to the American people. Sit within the castle of
1:41:53
MSNBC, throwing rocks at Fox News is ludicrous. Make MSNBC
1:41:59
MSNBC
1:42:03
Adam Curry: that landed that landed that Joe
1:42:06
John C Dvorak: the moment one more thing you should note,
1:42:08
because we don't have visuals here. Heilmann is trying as hard
1:42:13
as he can not to cry off him
1:42:15
Adam Curry: and not to cry. Yeah, and he but he's also he's
1:42:19
leaning way back. He's like, Oh, and he's trying to get a word in
1:42:23
edgewise. You can't do that with a guy like brand. You got to
1:42:26
just sit there and let him finish but he kept
1:42:29
John C Dvorak: you have to prepare a zinger at the end.
1:42:31
Yeah, it's the only way you can do
1:42:33
Adam Curry: what you do calm and collected Exactly. The moment
1:42:42
Russell Russell darling, see, that's the mistake. That's a
1:42:46
mistake when Heilmann goes Russell darling he's trying to
1:42:48
eat trying to
1:42:49
John C Dvorak: mirror he's trying to play Russell's game
1:42:52
Bad Idea Heilemann get back to raw always a bad idea to do that
1:42:56
get
1:42:56
Adam Curry: back to writing bro this is not your not your
1:42:58
territory. It's not your battlefield.
1:43:01
Unknown: Darling the moment that you give me a specific example
1:43:05
an actual
1:43:09
Adam Curry: brand was prepared for this you could tell me just
1:43:14
Unknown: tell you what. I'd like to hear a specific example
1:43:17
approval specific example of an MSNBC correspondent or anchor
1:43:20
being on television saying something they knew was false
1:43:23
and we're saying behind the scenes to people this is I'm not
1:43:26
to go out and we know that we know that the election wasn't
1:43:29
stolen if he were cool but I will go on but I will go I will
1:43:33
go out on television and say the opposite. I will lie wait Give
1:43:38
just give me up give me this specific example example All
1:43:42
right, I'm with you.
1:43:43
Adam Curry: I think it's a false equivalency and this Bill Maher
1:43:46
who I don't know why he said well I think it's a false
1:43:49
equivalency so what he's what Bill Maher is saying is that
1:43:52
MSNBC never does that they never and the stuff about Julian
1:43:57
Assange well of course that's not what Russell Brand meant.
1:44:00
That wasn't the equivalency he's saying that MSNBC also has
1:44:04
propaganda that's that's what he said and Bill Maher's like what
1:44:09
he should have stayed out of it. That made I agree that made him
1:44:12
angry. This was a moment to sit back and just enjoy the ratings
1:44:15
Unknown: but I will go on but I will I will go out on television
1:44:18
and say the opposite. I will lie my answer would give just give
1:44:22
me up give me this specific example I'm just saying basic
1:44:25
example All right, I'm with you. I think it's a false equivalency
1:44:29
right all about bias. It's a possibility because you don't
1:44:34
actually know anything about any of these organizations. You're
1:44:37
talking about even MSNBC once Big fucking deal my
1:44:39
darling it was
1:44:41
Adam Curry: who now he shows he's mad by saying big fucking
1:44:44
deal. Hyman sinking, he's
1:44:46
John C Dvorak: drowning. Also talking faster than he normally
1:44:49
does. He's
1:44:49
Adam Curry: drowning. He's drowning
1:44:50
Unknown: about bias. It's a possibility because you don't
1:44:52
actually know anything about any of these organizations you're
1:44:54
talking about even on MSNBC once Big fucking deal, my
1:44:57
darling it was more than
1:44:59
that. You may have a single single
1:45:03
example. You want an examples, the ludicrous, outrageous
1:45:07
criticisms of Joe Rogan around ivermectin, deliberately
1:45:12
referring to his a hot medicine with a new perspective medicine.
1:45:17
Model turning on the TV saying if you take this vaccine, you're
1:45:21
not going to get it when clinically trolled.
1:45:24
Adam Curry: What does he mean by non responsive? What does that
1:45:26
what are you trying to say there? He says non responsive
1:45:31
the
1:45:31
John C Dvorak: Heilmann was saying non response. Yeah,
1:45:33
Adam Curry: what did you What are you trying to say?
1:45:38
John C Dvorak: I don't know. Because it doesn't make any
1:45:39
sense. He's very responsive.
1:45:42
Adam Curry: Yeah, I just don't understand exactly what he's
1:45:44
saying. I think he was
1:45:45
John C Dvorak: shorted out by then. All right,
1:45:47
Unknown: turning on the TV saying is you take this vaccine,
1:45:49
you're not gonna get it when clinical trials are sponsored.
1:45:53
You have to listen. Do you think you can improve America?
1:45:57
Determined validly condemning Fox News without acknowledging
1:46:01
that you're participating in the same game? Did you know just
1:46:04
listen to Bernie Sanders, somebody plainly legitimately
1:46:08
believes in his country and believes it's possible to change
1:46:11
but he's bound by corruption is bound by the lobbying system.
1:46:16
clear to you, Bill. That's one of the great pundits and experts
1:46:20
and comic voices for systemic change is required. Money has to
1:46:24
be taken out of politics. We need new political systems that
1:46:28
genuinely represent ordinary Americans so that we can
1:46:31
overcome cultural differences and bickering about Mitch
1:46:35
propagandists network is the worst is not going to save a
1:46:39
single American life not improve the life of a single American
1:46:42
trial not going to improve America's standing in the world.
1:46:45
And the world needs a strong America. I'll tell you that.
1:46:52
Adam Curry: Oh, man, oh, props. The Russell Brand. That was
1:46:55
dynamite. Was pretty really, really good. Really good. I
1:47:00
really enjoyed that. Phenomenal. Okay, let's do it. He's
1:47:09
John C Dvorak: one of those guys. I've run into these guys.
1:47:12
In you know, public speaking arenas or brands, Russell Brand.
1:47:18
No into these guys, this type of person. Yeah. So I mean, a type
1:47:21
of person who can you can't beat in an argument or a situation
1:47:27
where there's in a debate situation. And though just your
1:47:32
your, you can't do it. And I think Shapiro is kind of like
1:47:39
that in a debate. Oh, without a doubt without it. And so what
1:47:43
you do is you never get into this with them, ever.
1:47:49
Adam Curry: And the funny thing is that this this debate that
1:47:52
they're having is not the actual debate, this whole noise and
1:47:56
that's kind of too bad is the Dominion voting machines,
1:48:00
Dominion systems, they are suing Fox News for defamation. And
1:48:04
this is all coming out of discovery, you know, the text
1:48:07
messages, but what it's obfuscating is the fact that
1:48:09
Dominions themselves that our systems are shipped. You can get
1:48:14
wrong results. It's easy to hack into, you know, they're no good.
1:48:18
That's also in the discovery. All of this is obvious getting
1:48:21
that that's that's the sad part of it. That's the sad part. But
1:48:26
anyway, it was fun entertainment. We like bread and
1:48:30
games. That's That's who we are as a people. Before we take a
1:48:33
break, I'd like to delve into CPAC I think you have some
1:48:36
clips. I'll set you up. tonight. I'll just set you up on
1:48:41
Unknown: on. Tonight the race to 2024 intensifying as former
1:48:45
President Trump makes his case for the Republican presidential
1:48:48
nomination. We're going
1:48:50
to complete the mission we're going to see this battle through
1:48:53
to ultimate victory.
1:48:55
Trump taking center stage at CPAC. The Conservative Political
1:48:59
Action Conference a once must attend event for GOP stars now
1:49:03
dominated by his supporters.
1:49:08
We believe in it is very Trump centered around here.
1:49:12
It's not Trump 2024 Is Trump forever.
1:49:14
For more South Carolina governor turn candidate Nikki Haley
1:49:17
heckled by the crowd. Other possible GOP hopefuls like
1:49:24
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, and former Vice President Mike
1:49:27
Pence skipping CPAC, highlighting the divide over the
1:49:31
party's future.
1:49:32
We are over here tearing each other apart. And
1:49:34
tonight as President Biden moles his reelection bid, he now faces
1:49:38
a Democratic challenger. Self Help author Marianne Williamson
1:49:42
launching another long shot campaign speaking exclusively to
1:49:46
ABCs Jonathan Karl,
1:49:48
the Democratic Party needs to be a conduit for the healing of
1:49:51
this country. But first the Democratic Party needs to look
1:49:54
in the mirror and heal itself.
1:49:56
Adam Curry: Nope, she wasn't at CPAC why she why why did Bring
1:50:00
her in
1:50:01
John C Dvorak: just a throwaway. What what channel was this? ABC?
1:50:06
I have no idea. We're just entertainment value. I have no
1:50:10
idea ABC Disney i Oh, no. I have mine reports from NPR in there
1:50:15
not that much different. They're not dissimilar. But they do have
1:50:19
a little more details about one thing or another, even though
1:50:21
they didn't they produced this before the Trump speech which we
1:50:25
can talk about CPAC. One
1:50:26
Unknown: CPAC is often let me put it this way, A Chorus Line
1:50:30
for Republican candidates where, you know, they audition before
1:50:34
politically active young conservatives who might want to
1:50:37
work in their political campaigns. As that been the case
1:50:41
this year, though, that's a
1:50:42
really good way to put it because it generally is
1:50:44
something of a chorus line of Republicans who are kind of
1:50:47
coming in trying to play to the sort of 1000s of conservatives,
1:50:50
usually young activists who get together they're part of the
1:50:54
conservative movement. Really a weathervane for the conservative
1:50:57
movement is what CPAC winds up being. But this time around,
1:51:00
really not many of those potential presidential
1:51:02
candidates showed up. We did hear from a couple of them, and
1:51:05
Nikki Haley was one She's the former South Carolina governor
1:51:08
who worked as UN ambassador in the Trump administration. Here's
1:51:11
what some of what she had to say she really tried to appeal to
1:51:14
the right wing of the party.
1:51:15
wokeness is a virus more dangerous than any pandemic
1:51:19
hands down. I have traveled the world and back, and I've seen
1:51:24
what's out there. America isn't perfect, but the principles at
1:51:29
the heart of America aren't perfect. And take it from me.
1:51:33
The first minority female governor in history, America is
1:51:38
not a racist country.
1:51:42
You know, there's a lot in that, obviously. And you can tell
1:51:44
there she's kind of trying to walk this line. You know, she's
1:51:47
throwing red meat to the base hoping to win them over. But
1:51:50
Donald Trump really has a real stronghold on a lot of that
1:51:53
base. She really needs to win over white collar Republicans,
1:51:56
who are the ones who are mostly saying that they want an
1:51:59
alternative to Trump.
1:52:01
Adam Curry: I find Nikki Haley an interesting entrant into this
1:52:04
because she's literally using DeSantis his line DeSantis is
1:52:09
the anti woke guy. That's all he talks about. He's the anti woke
1:52:15
Why would she jump and by the way, her voice. I keep how great
1:52:20
it really does head Zippy thinks it sucks. No, it's just
1:52:25
John C Dvorak: great. Yeah, you. She hasn't gotten any charisma.
1:52:29
Adam Curry: Zero charisma. She Riker
1:52:32
John C Dvorak: is milk writing voice. Not particularly
1:52:35
attractive. I'm sure she has to some people, but not
1:52:39
particularly attractive. She's not like you know, somebody you
1:52:41
want to really look at. And to be honest about it. And know
1:52:47
nothing. She's kind of a hawk. She's a little bit of a neocon.
1:52:53
Yeah. And I don't ever thought she was that supportive of Trump
1:52:57
when she was when she had been hired by him. No,
1:53:00
Adam Curry: no, she wasn't. Well, she was running for you
1:53:03
know, we've been hearing of her running for a long time.
1:53:05
John C Dvorak: She thinks that she's got the chops to run for
1:53:08
president. She she thinks that if somebody wants to have her
1:53:10
breasts, she's not going to get she's like Kamala Harris.
1:53:12
Adam Curry: How about this? Could she be a trial balloon for
1:53:17
DeSantis? Trying rice presidency? No, no, no, no. No
1:53:22
trial because DeSantis didn't speak with us a trial balloon to
1:53:26
see what sticks what works so that DeSantis can hone his
1:53:30
message.
1:53:32
John C Dvorak: Just a thought No. Synthesis so hesitant
1:53:35
shoulders above her head? I don't think he has anything to
1:53:38
do with it. All right. Let's go to part two.
1:53:42
Unknown: Mike Pompeo, former Secretary of State also spoke he
1:53:46
has been going through all the expected motions of someone
1:53:49
who's considering becoming a candidate. Did he try to
1:53:52
distance himself at all from Donald Trump?
1:53:54
Yeah. And I was really listening to see what kind of line he was
1:53:57
going to draw because it hasn't been clear how he's going to
1:54:00
distinguish himself. But he did try to make something of an
1:54:03
electability argument. Let's take a listen to that.
1:54:05
We lost three elections in a row, and the popular vote and
1:54:08
seven of the last eight. There are many reasons for this. But
1:54:11
one of them is I think they've lost trust in the conservative
1:54:15
ideas. And this is the task that's in front of us. And I am
1:54:18
convinced we can do it. Because we're right.
1:54:21
You know, Pompeo really took what was kind of an oblique shot
1:54:24
at Trump, but kind of veiled. Really, you know, he talked
1:54:27
about himself having been a Sunday school teacher and that
1:54:30
the country needs that kind of character. But his speech wasn't
1:54:33
exactly a barnburner. Neither was Nikki Haley's, really, and
1:54:37
they spoke both in front of kind of half empty audiences and
1:54:40
really got just warm receptions at best
1:54:42
to bedico. You've covered CPAC for almost two decades. And I
1:54:47
wonder what dishes confab pill drew about the state of the
1:54:50
conservative movement in America right now.
1:54:53
Yeah, you know, it's really fractured. You know, CPAC is
1:54:55
usually you know, an event that tells you where the movement is
1:54:58
headed, and it seems more like it's still something more like
1:55:01
Tepeyac a Trump Political Action Conference because it really
1:55:04
just highlighted that even Haley was sort of sandwiched between
1:55:08
two Trump's you know, Donald Trump Jr. went before her Lera
1:55:11
Trump perform President Trump's daughter in law went afterward.
1:55:15
So you know, the bigger news here this weekend almost was
1:55:18
that the people who didn't show up we're talking about Ron
1:55:20
DeSantis, the Florida Governor, Tim Scott, the South Carolina
1:55:23
Senator and Trump's former vice president, Mike Pence, who all
1:55:26
opted to go to a donor retreat in Florida hosted by the Club
1:55:30
for Growth, which is an anti tax group that's been involved in
1:55:33
Republican politics for a long time. And they're saying that
1:55:36
they want to really support somebody other than Trump. And
1:55:39
these candidates really need the kind of money that comes along
1:55:43
with that. But because Trump has such a stronghold on the party
1:55:46
infrastructure, in a potentially crowded field, he still looks
1:55:49
like the man to beat.
1:55:52
Adam Curry: You know what's missing from these reports? A
1:55:56
single sound bite from Trump.
1:56:00
John C Dvorak: They did this report before Trump spoke, he
1:56:02
spoke at the very end. And the report that you played did have
1:56:06
the sound bites from Trump. Yeah, but not this
1:56:09
Adam Curry: sound bite.
1:56:10
Unknown: Before I even arrived at the Oval Office, I will have
1:56:13
the disastrous war between Russia and Ukraine settled, it
1:56:17
will be settled quickly. I will get the problem solved. And I
1:56:25
will get it solved in rapid order. And it will take me no
1:56:29
longer than one day I know exactly what to say to each
1:56:32
other. I got along with very well as I got along very well
1:56:36
with Putin, even though I'm the one that ended his pipeline.
1:56:38
Remember, they said Trump is giving a lot to Russia. Really.
1:56:41
Putin actually said to me if you're my friend, and he'd like
1:56:44
to see you as my enemy.
1:56:45
Adam Curry: Now, what's interesting there? Is he slipped
1:56:48
in the I was the one that ended the pipeline. Cut about that?
1:56:56
John C Dvorak: I don't know what that means. It was talking about
1:56:58
Nord Stream. Yeah. And that's where obviously,
1:57:01
Adam Curry: I'm the one that ended the pipeline. Okay. And I
1:57:04
can I can means I can fix it before I come into the Oval
1:57:08
Office. Is that before you're elected, okay. Do it tomorrow. I
1:57:13
mean, I think that if he, how about this for a super Gambit.
1:57:18
He goes on a press tour, Sanjay with Putin. And Putin said,
1:57:22
Yeah, you know what, I talked to Don and yeah, we're gonna we're
1:57:24
gonna stop this thing now. Would that make Trump popular?
1:57:30
John C Dvorak: Yeah. But with Trump, if Trump could like, the
1:57:35
promises, the Logan Act are one of these things where you can't
1:57:38
do foreign diplomacy if you're a citizen, even though everybody
1:57:42
does it. Yeah.
1:57:45
Adam Curry: Can you do it as a former president?
1:57:47
John C Dvorak: Well, I mean, it all. They all done it.
1:57:50
Adam Curry: I'm Trump. I'm putting the dawn in the Donbass
1:57:53
everybody. Just see it. There is one surprise entrant coming for
1:58:00
in the 2024 election, supposedly, that I'm excited
1:58:05
about this guy.
1:58:06
Unknown: It's been a long time since the Kennedy name was
1:58:08
associated with a long shot outside her presidential
1:58:12
campaign. But those days could be making a comeback. On Friday,
1:58:16
Robert Kennedy Jr. Speaking at St. Anselm College, was asked if
1:58:20
he's considering a run for the White House in 2024.
1:58:23
I'm thinking about it.
1:58:32
Adam Curry: Passed the biggest hurdle which is at my wife has
1:58:35
green lighted. How about that?
1:58:39
John C Dvorak: I'd vote for him.
1:58:40
Adam Curry: I'd vote for him to I can't see. I'm sure he would
1:58:44
run Democrat, right. Yeah.
1:58:47
John C Dvorak: But I'm an independent. I have done non
1:58:50
affiliated vote for anybody.
1:58:51
Adam Curry: I am a politically homeless. I don't have to vote
1:58:54
for anybody either.
1:58:55
John C Dvorak: But I liked I liked him. I didn't I mean,
1:59:00
they'd ruin him in some way or shoot him as hard to say what
1:59:03
they do. The family
1:59:03
Adam Curry: does have a bad experience with running for
1:59:06
office and being it's just so
1:59:10
John C Dvorak: it's really dark divorce that many way back to
1:59:13
Trump. I listened to his speech, which was long. Yeah. And he had
1:59:17
a lot in he also won the straw poll, which I thought was
1:59:20
interesting, because as the last time, you know, the thing that
1:59:24
ran Ron Paul used to always win in the old days. And right, I
1:59:30
thought it was pretty good. We'd have some new stuff here, this
1:59:32
new bid about get a new bid. He does an April Fool's bid. He
1:59:37
goes on and starts with it's an April Fool's joke. And he cites
1:59:41
all of blunders and follow ups though. It was a it was it. It
1:59:47
needed a little work because it was the first time I've heard
1:59:49
this. But it was it was staged. It was it was it was okay. His
1:59:56
points are he really hits home with everything that a lot of
1:59:59
these guys just can't seem to come to grips with some of the
2:00:03
issues. He says we got to fix. But he's at the same time. We've
2:00:07
already seen him. He's kind of full of crap. I've not been a
2:00:11
fan since he refused to. to pardon. Snowden and Assange in
2:00:18
particular. Yeah. There is no reason for that. He should have
2:00:22
done it. And unless he had a gun to his head, when if he's got a
2:00:26
gun to his head in hell, we can just vote anybody in there
2:00:28
because they'll have a gun to their head. Yeah.
2:00:32
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, it should be fun. I mean, we'll,
2:00:38
we'll probably make it with the show through the 2024. Like, I
2:00:41
don't know if we can do it again. That'll be the fourth
2:00:43
election. You and I have been through together.
2:00:46
John C Dvorak: 123. Yeah. Looks like we should probably call it
2:00:48
quits at four.
2:00:51
Adam Curry: I mean, goodness gracious. Goodness, gracious. We
2:00:53
didn't
2:00:54
John C Dvorak: really get to egg bookselling first.
2:00:56
Adam Curry: And don't have a piece of that action man. I
2:00:58
gotta get I gotta get an exit strategy to get I'm going to be
2:01:03
the anti I already got
2:01:04
John C Dvorak: I've already got the value for value book. We're
2:01:06
going to do the same thing. You get a
2:01:08
Adam Curry: piece of that. Yeah. Now you've seen the numbers.
2:01:12
John C Dvorak: No, we also have the the primer, they have no
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agenda ABCs or whatever it is. That book which had been
2:01:20
stalling on forever.
2:01:21
Adam Curry: I think we need to do consultancy, we need to do
2:01:23
consultancy that knowledge.
2:01:25
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we actually could if we could get some
2:01:27
business. Can we get good? That's the problem.
2:01:32
Adam Curry: Or with all our knowledge, you know, I could run
2:01:36
in in 2028, and you could be my political adviser.
2:01:41
John C Dvorak: Take you should do a text to run for Texas
2:01:44
governor. Oh.
2:01:47
Adam Curry: That would be a fun gig. That would be cool. Yeah.
2:01:51
When
2:01:52
John C Dvorak: you move back to Austin, but you get into
2:01:53
governor's mansion. I'm
2:01:54
Adam Curry: not gonna move back to one of the governor's
2:01:56
mansion. Yeah, that's all
2:01:57
John C Dvorak: right. Yes, gets cordoned off
2:01:59
Adam Curry: to just wear big sexy cowboy hats all day. Yeah,
2:02:04
first lady of Texas.
2:02:05
John C Dvorak: And then you shoot a gun in the air. That's
2:02:07
the one thing I'm always expecting the governor of Texas
2:02:12
to do once in a while. Well yeah, and then shoot a gun in
2:02:15
the air.
2:02:16
Adam Curry: I think Texas governor is a powerful position
2:02:19
that could be a lot of fun. Yeah, well maybe that then maybe
2:02:23
we'll have to see you when I when Abbott is out didn't we
2:02:25
just now he has another word five years how many more years
2:02:28
do you get? No
2:02:29
John C Dvorak: I think it's for four to crack I don't think it's
2:02:31
six.
2:02:32
Adam Curry: I hope not.
2:02:34
John C Dvorak: US Senate
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Adam Curry: and we're that as we discuss our exit strategy I'd
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like to say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in
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the sea pack con five ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to
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my friend on the other end. Mr. John C. Lieutenant Governor of
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Texas.
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John C Dvorak: Good morning, Mr. And Mrs. Ship seat boots with
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the feet the air subs in the water and all the names
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Adam Curry: in the mornings at the trolls and the troll room.
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And Dame Kenny BAM had just a powerful pop of a piece of art
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for episode 1534. We titled that the CIT which is a new sitcom
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coming this season on NBC, the CIT this was the the Zap it had
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a brain silhouette of a head and a zap which is related to the
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age Intel agencies zapping each other with the Havana syndrome
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weapon. It was without a doubt the the, the font that she used
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the
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John C Dvorak: know is a very pretty piece and it had a nice
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kind of interesting shading. And it was simple and complicated.
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It was just a it was a nice piece. It was the best. I mean,
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I use the piece next to it for the newsletter because I just
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thought was a good piece of art, but
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Adam Curry: oh the that was the yelling and yelling, yelling
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this base. Do you know what that is? Is? It's a throwback to
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invasion of Mars. Invasion From Mars movie which you hate.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, that'd be a crummy movie. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: I love that movie.
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John C Dvorak: I was terrible.
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Adam Curry: I love them. Why would you?
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John C Dvorak: Like I think it ruined the career of Tim Burton.
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That one movie
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Adam Curry: didn't quite okay after that didn't.
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John C Dvorak: Well, he was on the upswing as being a superstar
2:06:38
art artsy fartsy director that was gonna always produce
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fascinating material after Batman. And then he did that
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Mars movie and that was the end of it.
2:06:50
Adam Curry: I'm sorry to hear that. Okay, well, we love the we
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love the art from Dame Kenny. Ben, what else were we looking
2:06:57
at? There was a lot of Scott Adams jokes now.
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John C Dvorak: We'd like to Winnie the Pooh won over the I
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thought it was okay.
2:07:08
Adam Curry: I mean, it's not Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: Roger Roundtree really liked that piece. Oh, he
2:07:12
did? Yeah. If you look at the Macedon arms instance, a nice
2:07:16
mess. And a lot of these artists come on there and they predict
2:07:19
what we're going to pick. Yeah. Yeah. Which is always never get
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it right. By the way. It's weird.
2:07:26
Adam Curry: It's a mistake. There really is. Some tick tock
2:07:30
stuff in there. Some stylized pieces amygdala therapy, cute
2:07:36
cute. But just entertainment as an enlightenment. Whoa, does
2:07:41
that the mic falling out of the cradle? Was that you falling
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over happened you just fall down?
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John C Dvorak: No the image of the scarlet hit the deck.
2:07:49
Adam Curry: Oh, well it's still working. Hey nail that shit
2:07:52
down. Zippy Be quiet what else oh no that was it. Those are the
2:07:58
ones that that was the end na now that again be careful with a
2:08:04
lot of detail a lot of small little things you really just
2:08:08
can't see it when when it's at you know two years
2:08:12
John C Dvorak: by plane about one specifically okay. I like it
2:08:17
came from China I thought was cute.
2:08:20
Adam Curry: It was a lot of stuff in there but it was so
2:08:22
hard to see you can't even see the little face they just one of
2:08:25
your complaint. That would be the complaint, the complaint.
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There was another one that I thought you bitched about I
2:08:32
never bitched about anything I discussed things with enormous
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respect there was probably the honey the Winnie the Pooh Bear
2:08:41
that was also too complicated just too much too much too
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small. It doesn't matter
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John C Dvorak: like the you know there was a Winnie the Pooh Bear
2:08:49
I think the bite hand and break pot light light blue against a
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kind of a cream background was not consciously you get to be
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able to consider contrast
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Adam Curry: yes contrast is key. With this type of art it's a
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very art can look great on the wall can great look great on a
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on a hoodie by the way I'm wearing my no agenda appetite
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like the skulls that of course are us I love this this hoodie
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did is so cool. You know people people look as man Guns and
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John C Dvorak: And actually who did that? Artists? That's
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Adam Curry: a good question.
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John C Dvorak: I forget to be able to you should know I
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shouldn't know.
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Adam Curry: I feel bad. It shouldn't be signed somewhere.
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Someone in the truck
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John C Dvorak: already signs nothing,
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Adam Curry: or anything for that matter. Are someone in the troll
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John C Dvorak: It was Yeah.
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Adam Curry: And you hated it. I don't like skulls that's exactly
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what you said. Everyone
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John C Dvorak: looks like a Grateful Dead all those that and
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they stole it from the Grateful Dead to I'm considering Guns and
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Roses.
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Adam Curry: So beta hopefully got on Slack but Darth? Yeah.
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Which means it's better to steal something well then make
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Time to thank our executive producers and Associate
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the mic. Okay, yeah, these things are annoying.
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Adam Curry: Yes, I would agree. And today, it's always an amount
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insight and perspective, the openness and willingness of John
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Thank you. Dr. Yeah.
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John C Dvorak: Nice. Yeah. I should mention the newsletter. I
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think it's did came on March 1. This is when because the
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newsletter got. It was weird. That was very weird. What
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happened there? So I sent out another note in plain text. And
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I think this is every March 1 and adapted to it. It happens
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pretty much every quarter. And I think is Google changing their
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algos for version for sorting?
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Adam Curry: Oh, I know exactly why. Remember the accusation? Is
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Google changes the algorithm whenever it's time for the
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Republicans to send out newsletters and CPAC would have
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been the reason. In fact, if you had CPAC in the newsletter,
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which you might have, but they always shadow ban, and start to
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bring down Republican stuff around a Republican event. How
2:16:47
about that?
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John C Dvorak: I like it because I did get more than one response
2:16:51
from somebody saying I didn't get the newsletter I looked all
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over. I mean, so now there was it wasn't some people got
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blocked completely. And they did have a they did have a Google
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account. And I do have a note for somebody I want to read
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though. And this is kind of cute.
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Adam Curry: And I'd like to I'd like to point out that people
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who don't listen to the donation segment are losing out they lose
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out on life saving tips, and SEO tips.
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John C Dvorak: SEO tips, whatever. producer Laura sent
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his cute note in, she says I was planning on giving this week and
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my debit card was hacked. So I can't send my small donation
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through PayPal. I'm getting a new card by next Friday. So I
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should be able to catch up then. If you don't send these emails
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about donations, I would think about sending I wouldn't think
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about sending money your way. This is something to note for
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people out there doing podcast of
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Adam Curry: our book another teaser from the value for value
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John C Dvorak: If you don't send these emails about donations, I
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wouldn't think about sending money your way I see it as a
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reminder that I need and I don't know if I'm just recalling
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clearly but when I clicked on the link in this email, and it
2:18:04
took me to the newsletter page it seems I had a portion of the
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text missing anyway I don't know what that was at some other
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issue. But wishes I said this from the beginning that these
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newsletters are just people aren't they don't spend their
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life thinking about the no agenda show all day. I do well
2:18:25
besides you.
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Adam Curry: You don't even do that.
2:18:30
John C Dvorak: Katy Texas Katy in Texas sorry. Or is it Katy
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Texas? No, Katy, Texas. This is I did what you did last time.
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Dame Becky There you go. In Katy Texas. I was waiting. 721 51 I
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had to pick up the keyboard. switcher row. Please. Credit 720
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dot 51. To Mike Kenny. Oh, and when I saw this name, I would
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never pronounce it Kenny it would be chinny
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Adam Curry: that same but she put a handy pronunciation guide
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right there. And the note
2:19:04
John C Dvorak: pronounced Kenny. Unlike a lot of
2:19:07
Adam Curry: unlike a lot of people who think it's hilarious
2:19:09
to put a name in there that we know we're going to stumble and
2:19:11
fumble over there just mean those people.
2:19:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well. They're mostly Dutch in
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celebration of his 72nd trip around the sun on March may to
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go with this donation he achieves night status and will
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join me at the roundtable and shall be known as Sir mic of the
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great Katy Prairie. Katy, Texas. That is He requests homemade
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lemon shallow, which reminds me and a rare ribeye no jingles
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just lots of karma. Keep up the good work. We love you guys.
2:19:45
Unknown: But reminder to our garland. At least garland Lee.
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John C Dvorak: She's up in the garlands.
2:19:52
Adam Curry: I bet you they're still listening. We used to get
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salmon sent. And we never got salmon. Yeah, I think she sent a
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salmon once and lemon shallow lemon shallow and shallow was so
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good her lemon shallow. I hope she's okay.
2:20:06
John C Dvorak: I haven't heard from them at all.
2:20:08
Adam Curry: Congratulations. Nice to be sir Mike and do you
2:20:13
watch Tik Tok more now that you are in the 70s is my question
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for you and some karma for you sir I'll get smarter due to
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karma Dame Taylor is in Huntington West Virginia 633 dot
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41 Cool numbers today. Please accept this donation as book
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there we go a switcheroo for the best man in the entire universe
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and also smokin hot I might add. I've been donating $33.33 for a
2:20:43
while now and this is the remainder to bring him to
2:20:46
knighthood before we get married next month I heard John's call
2:20:51
via the newsletter and I've been meaning to send this to both of
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you for a while as you have blessed us with job karma and
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we'd like to return the favor Thank you. This man deserves the
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world and that includes a knighthood before we wed please
2:21:03
Knight him data man what should we say data man what do you
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think data man or data man? What do you think? Well
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John C Dvorak: I think data man like data man who's up man this
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data data man I think is kind of cool data man
2:21:18
Adam Curry: of the rock hard greens okay? He will have
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Lonestar beer and summary whoa at the roundtable no idea what
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that is but I think I pronounced it right. To my love. Thank you
2:21:31
for making me laugh keeping me safe and making me a better
2:21:33
person. I can't wait to marry you soon. Thank you John. Adam,
2:21:37
you are truly the best Dame Taylor thank you so much. So she
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didn't actually give us his name. Just yeah data man
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John C Dvorak: I hate him daddy. Oh you what his real name is
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Yeah, so we'll just we'll
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Adam Curry: just put it the credit this to Sir data man of
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the Hard Rock greens. No problemo. It will do that for
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you. Yeah, it's cool.
2:22:02
John C Dvorak: Sir Don Francis is up next. And he's in
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Chandler, Arizona. 333 Dots these three. Gentlemen, I
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believe this is it makes me a Baronet. Thank you for doing the
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work. Can I get a boogity in honor of my smokin hot wife Dame
2:22:22
Stephanie and some dog karma love is lit Sir Don Francis the
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Baron net of Chandler.
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Adam Curry: You asked we played sir deal saver or Silla Gil
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saver. Springfield Missouri 333 dot 33 Love and that executive
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producer forever credit donation number as her deal saver here.
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This 333 33 row of threes donations to celebrate sort of
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Bradley deal savers third birthday on Monday March 6, he
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he is starting preschool Monday so we could use some karma for
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him his teachers and classmates but easier is your terror. Karma
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for him his teachers and the classmates. He's coming up to
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you if you want to mention the rest on the show, of course. Oh,
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here we go. Bradley is nonverbal autistic. He likes to listen to
2:23:25
the no agenda show with his dad and laughs each time he hears
2:23:28
the karma jingle. All right, so this should be a great day.
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Monday March 6 Starting preschool you're gonna have a
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great time. Sir Bradley deal saver. And for you. Why don't
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we? We're gonna give you a double up karma. You can laugh
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twice as much you've got karma. Have fun. Let us know how it
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goes.
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John C Dvorak: Ross Judaica in Redonda. Australia. Sounds like
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someplace in the outback. ITM landed lads heard about the
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donation challenges thought is an opportune time to help out
2:24:06
after 12 months of listening. keep on keepin on no karma. Just
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a great show from the land down under Ross, Utica, Utica, so
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that it doesn't count as Utica into Lord dunga.
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Adam Curry: Victoria. Eight oz. Alright, thank you. Oh, these
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are good for us Dukes in Camas, Washington. 333 33. Gentlemen,
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thank you for what you do. Well, there are many aspects of the
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show that I enjoy. One of my favorites is the attention to
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language that you both practice. Your ability to highlight things
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both said and unsaid, to scrutinize loaded language and
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to expose the verbal games played by many are refreshing
2:24:45
and informative. In other words, words are cool and stuff dudes.
2:24:50
This bladed donation is in response to Episode 1527 in
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which you both rose another notch in my estimation, by
2:24:57
calling out Merriam Webster for the high so that they are I do
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believe they are the worst of dictionary options Keep up the
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great work for us Dukes, aka faux Diddley. Got it? Thank you
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very much.
2:25:10
John C Dvorak: That's interesting. Beth Kellogg in
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Sumter South Carolina. Please deduce me? You You've been de
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deuced Beth Kellogg It's been too long she writes thanks for
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everything ITM.
2:25:26
Adam Curry: Oh, these are cool. Now when people get really short
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here I like this. A Nokia Esperanza L. L Arriaga from
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Ciudad de Mexico and Mexico 333 33 just landing got to note
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the weird newsletter failure email and I'm here doing my part
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to newsletters are the only emails I read through and enjoy
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John, please don't nuke them. Will you okay? Yeah, please
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don't people love them.
2:25:52
John C Dvorak: Baronet large comes in. Just old Baron at
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large and Bridgewater, New Jersey. Thank you for all you
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do. 333 Mr. Aaron at large
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Adam Curry: people really heard your call out Matt anonymous in
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Cambridge, Massachusetts. 333. Heard you are low on donations.
2:26:08
Hope this helps Semper Supra. Thank you very much. This is
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great. Love this.
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John C Dvorak: Adam X and Babylon New York. 333. My name
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is Adam X. I started listening to you during COVID and have
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kept me sane has kept me sane through the insanity of what we
2:26:27
now called Reality. Cook me and make cricket burger with a side
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of microplastics thanks. Thanks from Long Island.
2:26:40
Adam Curry: That's so nice to see so many people came in
2:26:42
during COVID particularly women. I like to add a Mexican man but
2:26:46
a lot of mama bears showed up when they're still hanging
2:26:49
around and believe me when you've got the whole world
2:26:51
looking up at stupid balloons, you still need your no agenda
2:26:55
show. Sir hope report in Pendleton, Indiana. 333 No
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jingles no karma from Sir hope report. Thank you and thank you.
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John C Dvorak: Rebecca waters is up from Albuquerque, New Mexico.
2:27:07
And she makes it even shorter. That $323 Keep it coming. Much
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love No.
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Adam Curry: Show Nice. Sean brown Harriman, Utah 321 Dodge
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65 I decided oh I decided to cleanse the remains of the Pay
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Pal account I want to get my wife Natalie de Deus. She
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manages our for human resources and does a spectacular job
2:27:31
please do Duchenne play a classic jingle of your choice.
2:27:33
Your choice John Foster jingle
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John C Dvorak: want to share a secret? See if you can find it.
2:27:40
Adam Curry: Yes, this time I named it appropriately. You've
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been de deuced
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Unknown: there's no winning foster a competitive atmosphere
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but we laugh a lot. Now everyone hug and share a secret
2:27:54
Adam Curry: now you can't catch me three times on that. I'll
2:27:56
fail twice but the third time we'll come back.
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John C Dvorak: Sir Kevin McLaughlin is up Whoa,
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Adam Curry: he's or what did you What are you doing up here?
2:28:05
John C Dvorak: He's up $314.15 Wow. Locust North Carolina.
2:28:11
Early Pi Day donation. Oh, I forgot about piteous coming.
2:28:14
Adam Curry: Oh 314 Yeah, we
2:28:15
John C Dvorak: miss it every year. No, no,
2:28:17
Adam Curry: we've we've caught it. We've caught up several
2:28:18
times not
2:28:19
John C Dvorak: to miss it most often. Early Pi Day donation
2:28:24
responded although it's not a big success. Nobody cares.
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response by the newsletter failure rate. Archduke of Luna
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lover America and boobs.
2:28:34
Adam Curry: Guy so cool, man. Next on the list. Catherine
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Boudreau in Carlisle, Massachusetts, Adam and John
2:28:42
I've only been listening for a short time but I wish I'd found
2:28:44
your show sooner as my world shrinks because everyone around
2:28:48
me has lost their mind. Your show is a refuge for me. Thank
2:28:52
you, Katherine. Welcome. Yes, we are here to give you sanity and
2:28:56
for as much as we can. Because we do laugh a lot. We laugh a
2:29:00
lot. We laugh a lot.
2:29:02
John C Dvorak: So no, it's funny because you got me turned on to
2:29:05
the idea of having a couple of fake accounts and some of these
2:29:08
journalists Mastodon instances Oh yeah. So I stumbled onto
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another couple that s s SF Bay dotnet some some local thing
2:29:18
with a bunch of another mogul Macedon thing another Bassett on
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and there's a bunch of and it's hilarious to this did amount of
2:29:28
insanity amongst these people who all quit Twitter. Right?
2:29:33
They deserve musk.
2:29:36
Adam Curry: Yes, because of musk. I wouldn't I would never
2:29:39
buy a Tesla. In fact, I'm burning mine.
2:29:44
John C Dvorak: It's unbelievable how nutty these people are.
2:29:47
Yeah,
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Adam Curry: I know. I know.
2:29:51
John C Dvorak: Cody the black metal cowboys variation.
2:29:53
Adam Curry: He was our complainer. Well, alright, now
2:29:56
the complainer yeah now that he donated you know, we love you
2:30:00
He's the best we burned him and he gave us money. Thank you Cody
2:30:07
the black middle
2:30:08
John C Dvorak: Long Beach, California he's living it up
2:30:10
down there Long Beach used to be a amusement park down there
2:30:16
called the pike which we had one of the greatest roller coasters
2:30:20
in the west coast in the world
2:30:22
Adam Curry: now he's going to debunk you on that he's going to
2:30:24
tell you that that was not the greatest
2:30:25
John C Dvorak: gotta be after his time he probably never he
2:30:27
never got to go there they tore it down to under $48.16 He's got
2:30:32
the right thing here says no notes no jingles no karma
2:30:34
Adam Curry: the guy is actually quite good and we were wrong we
2:30:37
said these people who complain never donate and there it is
2:30:40
bucking bucking the trend. Cody the black metal cowboy
2:30:44
appreciate that that that if I had known that I would have gone
2:30:47
softer on him. Now probably not. Thank you ma'am. Sir Lucas in
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Federal Way Washington. Bless you 20202 A nice nice
2:30:58
palindrome. Sir Lucas with the last bit a shot of baby making
2:31:02
karma would be appreciated. We gotta go.
2:31:05
Unknown: Got karma
2:31:08
Adam Curry: says that we're sure it'll take the next one. Brian
2:31:09
Taylor. In Katy, Texas. Wait a minute. We know the tailors in
2:31:15
Katy, Texas. I finally made associate producer Yes. $200.13.
2:31:19
Over halfway tonight. I got my smokin hot wife Karen pregnant
2:31:24
the week after the Bastrop meetup. Oh,
2:31:27
John C Dvorak: hey, go. No agenda strikes again.
2:31:33
Adam Curry: We're available for all of your weddings and Bar
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Mitzvahs based on my spreadsheet calculation dresses and I
2:31:39
attribute it to the karma we got that weekend. Thanks, Leah
2:31:42
Louise. His name is Logan. He's a male slash boy. But we expect
2:31:47
him to identify as Wolverine. After Krav Maga training.
2:31:51
Rolando is Rolando Gonzalez gave me the intro to you. And I was
2:31:55
so starstruck, I probably sounded retarded talking about
2:31:58
how I found y'all on YouTube and had been a fan since headbangers
2:32:01
ball. Anyways, it was great meeting you and Tina. I've been
2:32:05
Man Overboard for a month or so. But I'm back now. I need all
2:32:08
purpose karma. Thank you for all you guys have done and do ill
2:32:12
Brian Taylor, thank you so much. And thank you for your well you
2:32:16
could have named your kid after one of us. I mean, honestly,
2:32:19
that that would have been the proper thing to do. But at least
2:32:23
admitting that that we are responsible for for your for
2:32:28
your human resource. Is it really good for you and thank
2:32:31
you so much. You've got karma
2:32:37
John C Dvorak: Garrett Hampton and Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. Fed
2:32:43
up with the indoctrination of your kids. Or let me read this
2:32:48
like it should be an announcement announcement fed up
2:32:51
with indoctrination of your kids what they're getting at school.
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Join us for the home grown generation family Expo. A live
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interactive online homeschool conference. Starting tomorrow.
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Monday, March 6. Sign up at home grown generation.com
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Adam Curry: All right. Good one. Zac Brown the third I think in
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Macau Macau Makawao Makawao.
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John C Dvorak: Mecca wha wha wha oh
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Adam Curry: well we do the monitor Wow. Do you want it all
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there's no notes so give you will give you a double double up
2:33:43
John C Dvorak: another no note from Todd Voss in Davenport,
2:33:46
Iowa give him a double up 200 bucks you've got karma and well,
2:33:58
we're over the number four doing to SET set separate segments.
2:34:05
Adam Curry: I did notice that but I think considering where we
2:34:08
like it, I kind of I want the one one long segment. Well now
2:34:14
listen to the content we had in this. It's not like it's you
2:34:19
know, there's no reason to listen to it. The content
2:34:22
John C Dvorak: No, I'm not arguing with let's do it. Ready?
2:34:24
We're gonna go on part two just the names and people do donate
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lesser 52 last blast. Blasted and not anonymous in Billings,
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Montana. 150 Joe compania in Ontario, California switcheroo
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for his sister Angela. Embarrassed Dame hood. Sir night
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of the East Side. Maplewood Minnesota nuts. 12345. And by
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the way, Joe can find us 12345 Gabriel Adams in Blackfoot,
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Idaho. 12333 the bed Peter registration dish nig Rajesh
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thickening I hate this name is impossible. In Thornton,
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Colorado 10289. He's gonna have to send me a pronunciation
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print. A gasket tear. I carry Jackson and Watertown, Tennessee
2:35:17
100. Sure l Peterson in Auburn, California 100 Eric Renaud,
2:35:22
Renard, in Sutton, Massachusetts 100 Kevin McAtee in Centennial,
2:35:29
Colorado honored Michael Kellner in Ripon, California 100. He
2:35:36
says, John, you're scamming us with your problem with a
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newsletter stick?
2:35:43
Adam Curry: I don't think so.
2:35:45
John C Dvorak: No, it's not very I object. Only if you're honest.
2:35:50
Is it work? William Taylor in Higginsville, Missouri. 100.
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Shameless the hillbilly whisperer inadequate Indiana
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hundreds of hundreds here John Roman a 100. Paul ham 100 from
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West Palm Beach, Florida. And he needs a delusion for his brother
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Steve. You've been de deuced Craig wax in his smokin hot
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wife, RIM rock Arizona. David part in in Pensacola, Florida.
2:36:22
100 These are all hundreds. Thank you, John and Anna for
2:36:25
humanism formed. Greg Hunter Springfield, Missouri 100. Now
2:36:29
we dropped down to Sir Kevin McLaughlin is backwards. He's
2:36:33
already an executive producer, so I guess it can't go much
2:36:36
higher but he had another 808 to keep his streak going. Oh,
2:36:40
boobs. A Matthew Brunner and Dale, Indiana. 808. And I have
2:36:46
to read this note. I know we don't normally read notes down
2:36:49
here but this one says I see why short Kevin McLaughlin donates
2:36:52
this amount. It feels good. Interesting. Steven McLean and
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Sheila BC 7777 Amy's a de douching you've been de deuced
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he's a call out Christina is a douchebag. Darius Walker in
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Charleston West Virginia. 7714 By the way, Steve was 7777 7714
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He needs a D douching. You've been de deuced when Kartini in
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Torrington, Connecticut 7421 Kate Smith and Leonard town,
2:37:36
Maryland 6969 and Brian Furley 5510 Simon belgrove in Highland
2:37:42
New York 55. A do douching is needed. You've been de deuced
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Jason Benson. gunsmith Gladewater Texas he needs a de
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douching you've been de deuced and he came with 5333 Sir Chris
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Abraham $53 He's got a birthday. It'll be 53 makes Michael gates
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52 at Jared Smith and Fort Wayne, Indiana. 5199 Love you
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guys. Christopher Jones in Paris, Texas. 5151 John Foley in
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Chicago Heights 5115 Teresa Statum stat. Haim. Start Time
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that time in Plymouth Minnesota. That's 51 the boys at the shack
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in Bolivar New York 5033 Dame night in Edmonds, Washington
2:38:41
5015. Sir Michael, in Snohomish, Washington 50. Now, this would
2:38:48
be all the $50 donors name and location. Here we go. John
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Ferretti Gherardi, Pennsylvania. James Neal in Spring, Texas.
2:39:00
Monica Boyle in Brooklyn, New York. Colin Pettit in Fairfield,
2:39:04
Iowa, Anna Drake and Wrightstown Indiana. Eric Adams, not the
2:39:10
mayor in Middlesex, Vermont. Does he need anything? No, sir
2:39:17
Jub Jub Jub Jub of the jiggly bits in Elkton, Florida. Joseph
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green is Stevenson Ranch California. Eric hoffen,
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Edmonton, California, Edmonton, Canada, Edmonton, Canada. Carl
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Wagner in ER Vogler, Vogler in Dillon Beach, California, he
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needs a de douching you've been de deuced plenty of alar in
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Austin, Texas first time donor. Give him a de douche. You've
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been de deuced good. Oh sir Matthew Juliana's ski in Chicago
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50 William Martin Crandall, Texas Miko le bar in
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Williamstown, Michigan Alex avala in Kyle Texas James
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sheremeta in Napa not in New York Villa rial Villareal.
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Elaine Brown in Eugene, Oregon. Stephen crummy in El Cajon. By
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the way, give Elaine Brown a de douche. You've been de deuced
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going to a meet up. Oh yeah, a Taylor Elric in Phoenix Arizona
2:40:31
Steven powers in Midlothian, Virginia Kirkpatrick and nine
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Namo nine nameko Canada, Victoria Island. Sorry,
2:40:41
Vancouver Island, Jason Mertz in Boise, Idaho. By the way, Kurt
2:40:48
is an actual on the air personality to Canadian TVC Oh,
2:40:52
Adam Curry: really? Oh, that's cool. Hey, who's that news guy?
2:40:55
Hey, news guy.
2:40:57
John C Dvorak: We'll get a clip from him eventually. Yeah. Jason
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Mertz in Boise, Idaho, Ryan Edison in Bellingham,
2:41:06
Washington, David swift in Riverside, Connecticut. And last
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on the list is Brett Farrell, who I believes in Oklahoma City.
2:41:15
And these people all made show 1535 a reality in a big way.
2:41:21
Adam Curry: A very big way. Thank you all so much. Thank you
2:41:24
to everyone who came in under $50. Typically for reasons of
2:41:27
anonymity, but also a lot of people who, not enough but a lot
2:41:30
who aren't sustaining donation. We'd lost a lot with the Pay Pal
2:41:33
pocalypse. So if you'd like to consider coming back for that.
2:41:36
We appreciate it. Go to our website for this for.org/and A
2:41:41
and of course, we thank all of our executive and Associate
2:41:44
Executive producers who came in big time today really saved the
2:41:48
day saved, saved last month, actually, so we appreciate that.
2:41:53
These are credits that are official, they're real anywhere
2:41:56
credits are recognized you can try well you could of course you
2:41:59
put them on LinkedIn, you could put them on your, on your on
2:42:03
your resume but also IMDb it's a perfect place for people to say
2:42:07
hey, you know you don't believe me. I'm a producer. I'm
2:42:10
executive producer of an actual media property go to imdb.com
2:42:14
they don't mess around. They kick you off as was fake and
2:42:16
look at all the other heavy hitters who are there. So we
2:42:19
appreciate all that you have done and give you all the goat
2:42:22
karma. Thank you so much you've got so that everyone else
2:42:30
together. Thank you for making 1535 a reality
2:42:33
Unknown: our formula is this. We go out we had people in the
2:42:37
mouth
2:42:57
Adam Curry: we got a nice list of birthdays as well. Dred Scott
2:43:00
as he came in with the show number donation celebrate his
2:43:03
birthday yesterday. March 1. Today my sister in Italy Willow
2:43:07
turns 54 And on Friday, she gets her master's in psychology.
2:43:12
Happy Birthday says Dave Clevenger turned 72 today as
2:43:17
well sir Jill saver wishes his son sir Bradley Bill saver Happy
2:43:20
Birthday turning three on March 6 Tomorrow sir Chris Abraham
2:43:24
turning 53 on March 8 wanting to get in on time Dan Becky wishes
2:43:28
Mike Kenny a happy birthday turned 72 on March 8. Wow, we've
2:43:32
got another 72 birthday. And Lucien celebrates his or her
2:43:37
birthday today apparently happy birthday for everybody here the
2:43:39
best podcast in the universe
2:43:50
so one of the one title change today. We've got Sir Don
2:43:54
Francis, we heard him earlier. So Don Francis now becomes a
2:43:57
barrow net, and changes his title to Sir Don Francis Baronet
2:44:01
of Chandler, and we thank him for his additional $1,000
2:44:04
donation to the best podcast in the universe too. Nice to handle
2:44:08
out today. Happy to do it
2:44:10
John C Dvorak: and ask a question first. Sure. How old is
2:44:14
Willow?
2:44:15
Adam Curry: 54.
2:44:17
John C Dvorak: So when were you when I met her when you were at
2:44:20
the wedding? Yeah. How many years ago is that?
2:44:26
Adam Curry: It was 19 May 19 2019.
2:44:32
John C Dvorak: So as was four years ago? Yeah. Three years
2:44:34
ago, four years ago, something like that. She looks like she's
2:44:37
27 Then she can't possibly be this age. She
2:44:40
Adam Curry: is definitely the baby of the family and clearly
2:44:43
the smartest. Clearly the smart getting getting your masters at
2:44:48
above 50 I think it's pretty good. And she's got a baby face.
2:44:54
I know it's irritating. Give me a blade. Oh, here we go. Oh,
2:45:01
there you go. Okay, perfect. My Kenny and the guy known as data
2:45:07
man. Good y'all step up here on the podium thanks to either your
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2:45:44
everyone always goes straight for the mutton and Mead. And if
2:45:47
you want to see what these handsome rings look like, go to
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Noah nation.com/rings That and the two gentlemen in question
2:45:53
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2:46:00
you all again so much for supporting no agenda show the
2:46:02
best podcast in the universe
2:46:10
now the list we don't have any meetups coming up in the in
2:46:16
between in between now and what do we add Thursday, which is odd
2:46:21
typically we do but March is chock a block full all the way
2:46:25
through April. What we do have, however, is chock a block chock
2:46:29
a block. It's a perfect expression. We have 1234 meetup
2:46:33
reports. So here we go Denver.
2:46:35
Unknown: Let's get it all this is John G do from the millennial
2:46:38
media offensive here at the bi weekly Denver meetup every other
2:46:41
Thursday.
2:46:42
And this is tacos and we are not talking at 1.5 speed here. This
2:46:46
is Mitch apparently I'm talking at one point servito you can
2:46:50
call me gabagool veto because I don't want to be meatball run
2:46:57
along laying at point. This is Colorado Care Bear.
2:47:08
Adam Curry: Jim from Denver in the morning.
2:47:10
Unknown: I do believe this Gulag is lit this is Colin.
2:47:15
Back to me already. It's been a great meetup. We have them every
2:47:18
other Thursday. Come see us. Go Leo Bravo's
2:47:20
Adam Curry: in Los Angeles. Hey, everybody. It's
2:47:23
Unknown: Leo Bravo. We're at meetup number 37.
2:47:25
I'm passing the phone around for folks to give us their
2:47:28
greetings. Hey, I'm in
2:47:29
Java in the morning. This is Bill and don't worry, Adam. I'm
2:47:32
not going to damage your ears with my terrible Dutch.
2:47:34
Hey guys. This is Rick and it's cold out here. No joke. Hello.
2:47:38
This is Andy representing the ranch in the morning, in the
2:47:40
morning.
2:47:41
Adam Curry: And in the morning. And Eugene, Oregon had their
2:47:46
meetup slaves.
2:47:47
Unknown: This is B Dubs. We're hanging out at Papa's pizza.
2:47:50
Having some slices some good conversation, some good
2:47:52
connection, because that is protection. And it's and
2:47:56
this is Elaine at Papa's pizza in Eugene and this is a one and
2:48:00
a half machinist meet up
2:48:02
in the morning. Hi guys. Shut up already. No, sir. No. scoots
2:48:10
here it is Sir Trevor, the machinist in the morning. This
2:48:14
is Sammy. Oh, in the morning. Sir.
2:48:20
Adam Curry: Yeah, this is an imperfect example of out of
2:48:23
phase if you ever wondering what that sounds like. That's exactly
2:48:27
what it sounds like. It's okay. These are all producer organized
2:48:30
producer run the meet up reports all done by producers. It's
2:48:34
amazing. any of this stuff works at all. Last one. Okay. See the
2:48:38
UI who we meet.
2:48:39
Unknown: Hey, Jamie James here again at the UI who we meet up
2:48:42
has this mic around stay
2:48:43
fan in the morning.
2:48:45
This is Dave in the morning. My son was going to come here he's
2:48:48
a douchebag he didn't come with me. Maybe next time Caleb
2:48:51
Adam Curry: in the morning. Douchebag ruble
2:48:52
Unknown: here always traversing the cultural decline. Hey, this
2:48:55
is Cody and in the morning and I am not a douchebag in another
2:48:58
day here in the morning.
2:49:00
Dana Cassidy Eastwood of dimension a John and Adam,
2:49:03
thanks for all you do in the
2:49:05
morning in the morning and good luck out there.
2:49:07
That's the crew baby. And we're Brent barrel and those dudes at
2:49:09
Atelier Oklahoma where y'all at man?
2:49:12
Adam Curry: You can tell that people have a good time at these
2:49:14
meetups? Yes some of this alcohol fueled obviously but it
2:49:18
is so important to find your community particularly in these
2:49:22
days where you know everyone's over socialize you know, I don't
2:49:25
know if I can talk to anybody about anything. I'm so worried
2:49:27
about saying anything wrong. It's a horrible now you wish you
2:49:31
could see the pictures. Everyone looks so different. It looks
2:49:34
like none of these people belong together. And of course we do
2:49:36
because you are part of the no agenda nation no agenda family
2:49:41
connection is protection. It's true. Go to one of these meetups
2:49:44
you will not regret it you will keep going back for more just
2:49:47
like those damned potato chips. To find out more go to no agenda
2:49:50
meetups.com If you can't find one near you start one yourself.
2:49:53
It's easy and it will be a party
2:49:57
John C Dvorak: with all the nice day ease you won't be triggered
2:50:06
you will be safe is like a bar
2:50:16
Adam Curry: yeah baby like a potty. They are like a party. I
2:50:20
gotta win 17 to April keeper Korean the keeper going to the
2:50:24
no agenda meetup in Nashville, Tennessee. Very excited about
2:50:28
doing that one. Oh Crikey. I see I have one, two. I have four.
2:50:40
John C Dvorak: Four. Yeah, four. Therefore,
2:50:42
Adam Curry: let me play my first I don't know if they're any
2:50:44
good. What is all of this mean?
2:50:47
Unknown: Kind of like that? Like that one? Yeah. toggles
2:50:50
Adam Curry: to Trump goggles. That's no good. Or not
2:50:53
Unknown: listening to this on 1.5.
2:50:57
Adam Curry: I like that when appropriate, it's appropriate.
2:50:59
And the final one, it's ridiculous. Awesome, okay.
2:51:04
John C Dvorak: Like the two of them.
2:51:05
Adam Curry: Okay. All right. So I'll take its minor
2:51:07
John C Dvorak: damage better. So let's go with start with ISO
2:51:11
detail.
2:51:12
Unknown: Every detail matters.
2:51:15
Adam Curry: It's nice and clear. That's for sure.
2:51:17
John C Dvorak: Every detail matters. Okay. Let's go with
2:51:21
Fauci prosecuted.
2:51:23
Adam Curry: I got this one too, but I decided against it. I
2:51:26
shouldn't be prosecuted. It works better with video that
2:51:29
one. You said I just wanted to play it shit eating grin he's
2:51:33
got on his face. I so great. Really great to have this
2:51:36
conversation. Okay, not bad, not bad. Not bad.
2:51:41
John C Dvorak: And then last is money. Your money's
2:51:43
Unknown: been thinking about you.
2:51:47
Adam Curry: I would say it's a toss up between really great to
2:51:50
have this conversation. And and what is all of this mean? I
2:51:58
think maybe the winner is this one. Or
2:52:01
Unknown: not listening to this on 1.5?
2:52:05
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's just go with that. I think that's the
2:52:07
thematic catch.
2:52:08
Adam Curry: It's the magic. Yes, that's exactly what we're
2:52:09
looking for thematic. Okay, what can we leave people with? Oh,
2:52:16
I'd like to say I'm still a little upset about the
2:52:21
restrictions that the United States has, I think the only
2:52:24
country left in the world that does not allow non citizens or
2:52:29
non residents to enter the United States without a vaccine
2:52:33
proof of vaccination. And the fact unbelievable that we have
2:52:37
lawmakers pleading for the President to make an exception
2:52:42
for the tennis player no VOC joke joke of a joke which pisses
2:52:47
me off that you're you're you're calling for an exception for a
2:52:51
celebrity
2:52:52
John C Dvorak: just dropped a whole thing? Yes. Yes.
2:52:55
Adam Curry: And the lawmakers who are requesting this
2:52:58
exception Screw you. This thing should be grown gone long gone.
2:53:04
Check the calendar. Yeah, and they're not dropping it until
2:53:07
May and I'll bet you they'll try and prolong it again.
2:53:11
John C Dvorak: Poor why bother? What's the point?
2:53:16
Adam Curry: I don't know. It's racist. Biden is a racist items
2:53:21
a total racist jerk.
2:53:23
John C Dvorak: Have you noticed I have some battery clips. I
2:53:26
have goose Biden clip. He's talking to a bunch of black guys
2:53:29
Biden divine nine.
2:53:31
Unknown: I know real power when I see it. Divine nine. We're
2:53:36
honored to have presidents all the presidents here tonight. I
2:53:39
want to thank you.
2:53:41
By the way, you know, I'm not smiling. I may be a white boy,
2:53:44
but I'm not stupid.
2:53:46
Adam Curry: Oh, man. Yeah, I saw what a dick. This is such a dick
2:53:50
thing to say. Bye. Bye. Maybe a white boy, but I'm not stupid.
2:53:54
What does that mean? Most white boys are stupid president.
2:53:58
John C Dvorak: That's what he said.
2:53:59
Adam Curry: i det so disappointing. And of course, no
2:54:04
one really calls him out for it.
2:54:06
John C Dvorak: No, of course not. You can't it is to cover
2:54:09
for him. So maybe just the opposite. Maybe
2:54:11
Adam Curry: I don't watch Tucker anymore. I'm done with Tucker.
2:54:13
I'm done with him.
2:54:14
John C Dvorak: i Oh, my. I think Tucker's got some good shows.
2:54:16
Now. Well, if
2:54:17
Adam Curry: you find anything, let me know.
2:54:19
John C Dvorak: Well, you'll hear it unclips. Here's another
2:54:23
interesting just Biden doing some fake Biden some podcaster
2:54:27
did is terrible. This has nothing like Biden. And then the
2:54:33
podcaster sheepishly comes out with some commentary afterwards.
2:54:36
This is lousy Biden fake draft notice. Clip.
2:54:43
Unknown: Oh, February, the illegal Russian offensive has
2:54:45
been swift, callous, and brutal
2:54:48
Adam Curry: already is like no, it's barbaric.
2:54:51
Unknown: Putin's illegal occupation. The impending
2:54:54
Chinese blockade of Taiwan has created a two front national
2:54:57
security crisis that requires more troops In the volunteer
2:55:00
military can supply I have received guidance
2:55:03
Adam Curry: sounds like Biden in 1985. Maybe? No, that's the
2:55:08
John C Dvorak: problem. The old Biden doesn't talk like Biden
2:55:11
Unknown: received guidance from General Milley at 1885. But the
2:55:15
recommended way forward will be to invoke the Selective Service
2:55:18
Act, as is my authority as president. The first to be
2:55:22
called in a sequence determined by National Lottery will be men
2:55:26
and women whose 20th birthday falls during calendar year.
2:55:29
2023. can't
2:55:30
Adam Curry: listen to it. It's horrible. I'll play the last
2:55:33
seven seconds
2:55:33
John C Dvorak: just because no don't play anymore. Just play
2:55:36
this lousy Biden fake podcast. Just fake podcasts is the
2:55:40
podcaster apologizing for the lousy job he did. God bless our
2:55:44
troops. God bless Ukraine. We just played for you was a sneak
2:55:51
preview coming attractions a glimpse into the world beyond
2:55:57
that was an A I want to say recreation, but maybe a pre
2:56:02
creation, a pre creation of President Biden designed and
2:56:07
scripted by our producers here for the show.
2:56:11
Adam Curry: Okay, who is this? podcaster who is his podcaster
2:56:16
John C Dvorak: I want to refuse to answer that question.
2:56:18
Adam Curry: By the power vested in me as the pod father I did
2:56:21
notice you smell so good.
2:56:27
John C Dvorak: i The thing is, this is bullcrap. reinstituting
2:56:32
this selective service under any circumstance and
2:56:35
Adam Curry: the whole thing is done. This is people are stupid.
2:56:38
Did you okay? What what? I'm gonna play this. So we're just
2:56:45
talking about AI and how it's going to take over the world.
2:56:47
All right, so So now they've they've taken the job of disc
2:56:54
jockey on top 40 radio stations. Light FM W L TW. Everybody. They
2:57:04
know it's already even in the 1990s when I was doing z 100 w h
2:57:10
tz the flame thrower in New York no I was a celebrated on the air
2:57:17
so I could do a little more than most jocks but the program
2:57:20
director Steve Kingston at the time murmur are gone. He would
2:57:24
literally say to disc jockeys just read the card a monkey
2:57:27
could do this job. Just do your job read the card read the
2:57:31
weather talks that talk the record up never back announce do
2:57:35
your job. A monkey
2:57:37
John C Dvorak: could do he actually said never back
2:57:40
announced.
2:57:40
Adam Curry: Oh no never back announced are never backing
2:57:43
outs.
2:57:44
John C Dvorak: That's annoying. Yep.
2:57:46
Adam Curry: Never back announce only moving forward coming up on
2:57:49
Z 100 always unique. What's your favorite song? What's your
2:57:52
favorite radio station? That's right, you wouldn't take it. So
2:57:57
no. Now this whole GPT AI thing has gone so far. That they not
2:58:05
there is now an outfit there radio GPT who are seriously
2:58:09
selling a a fake AI driven disc jockey and their promo reel is
2:58:18
is read by the same fake disc jockey. You will soon be hearing
2:58:22
on a radio stations. Tell me when you can't when you can't
2:58:26
just can't handle it anymore.
2:58:28
Unknown: Future AI is revolutionizing the audio
2:58:30
industry with the launch of radio GPT the world's first AI
2:58:34
driven localized radio content solution. Radio GPT combines the
2:58:40
power of GPT three technology with future is AI driven story
2:58:45
discovery and social content system topic posts as well as AI
2:58:49
voice tech to provide an unmatched localized Radio
2:58:52
Experience sounds so exciting for any market any format using
2:58:56
futures patented automation link and patented topical system
2:59:00
along with AI voice technology, radio GPT brings a radio station
2:59:05
to life.
2:59:06
Adam Curry: Is it coming to life for you? Yes.
2:59:09
Unknown: I can see what's in your music log and talk about
2:59:12
the songs or artists station.
2:59:14
Adam Curry: I can see what happened RP Oh, it's horrible
2:59:17
Unknown: your local market right now and talk about it in real
2:59:20
time. I can post on your Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and
2:59:24
Tik Tok and talk about what we all know there's only AI voice
2:59:30
and pre promoting content going into breaks. I can talk about
2:59:34
the weather or traffic,
2:59:36
Adam Curry: weather and traffic.
2:59:38
Unknown: I can see how many people are listening right now
2:59:40
on the ones streaming and say hello to certain locations.
2:59:43
Adam Curry: Hello Cleveland.
2:59:46
Unknown: I can take open mic audio from listeners using
2:59:49
future mobile and incorporate their thoughts questions and
2:59:53
feedback into my show.
2:59:54
Adam Curry: I can't take myself anymore. This is what they
2:59:56
really think the future is going to be. It's like just cut out
2:59:59
all All humanity. And by the way that this is a video and the and
3:00:04
the AI robot woman doesn't blink. It's really creepy.
3:00:08
John C Dvorak: And we all know there's been, we've caught a
3:00:11
number of robo calls that are now robots. Yeah. And most of
3:00:18
the time is pretty standard. But there's a couple of ones that
3:00:21
are showing up that are decent, but they're the whole they're a
3:00:26
little overconfident though, because they don't have any real
3:00:30
because if you spot them, because I'm now skeptical,
3:00:32
there's and I'll tell you the one guy calling for the police
3:00:36
in a retirement fund fun.
3:00:38
Adam Curry: Oh, I despise that call.
3:00:42
John C Dvorak: Now this guy calls you got a big deep voice.
3:00:44
Yeah, big voice. And this guy used to be a real person. But
3:00:48
they've robotized him. You're right. And so he caught you.
3:00:52
I've got the reason I spotted this. I didn't spotted it first.
3:00:55
And I don't know why I didn't spotted it first. But I spotted
3:00:58
it because he called again. This time I said, Hey, wait a minute,
3:01:02
you just called a little while ago. And he didn't respond.
3:01:08
Right? He clicked into some other sub sub routine. And he
3:01:13
started talking about something else. And I said, Wow, were you
3:01:17
a robot? And I guess he doesn't get called out too much for
3:01:21
that. Because most of the robot callers that are robots, they
3:01:24
say yeah, well, no, I'm a real person. And, and this deep voice
3:01:31
guy calling from the Police Association is the best except
3:01:35
for the fact that once you know it did look for him. Everybody.
3:01:40
You once you know him, he's not good at correcting issues was
3:01:44
because I had in the middle of the second call. I said, what's
3:01:47
your what's your first name?
3:01:50
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah,
3:01:51
John C Dvorak: there's a long pause.
3:01:54
Adam Curry: Oh, wow. You know, that's really that's really
3:01:59
interesting.
3:02:01
John C Dvorak: Now, because the other one I mentioned that
3:02:03
Adam Curry: guy called me maybe two weeks ago, and I despite
3:02:07
because I remember one time, I almost got roped him. And I was
3:02:11
like, Yeah, we're the police something or something.
3:02:14
Wherever. Beautiful, deep voice very deep. Hey, I do. And I was
3:02:18
like, that was years ago that I almost got roped in. And, and
3:02:22
it's just the guy like, do you care about the police? You know,
3:02:24
do you ask all these cores? Like, yeah, of course I care
3:02:27
about the police. And at the end, it's just It just smelled a
3:02:30
rat. I'd like any of our law enforcement officers or anyone
3:02:35
John C Dvorak: ever get any money out? Yeah,
3:02:36
Adam Curry: I'd like to know is that legit? Is that something
3:02:39
that we should be? Should be supporting? I mean, at all who
3:02:43
are
3:02:43
John C Dvorak: calling the police about Yeah, it
3:02:46
Adam Curry: all feels so wrong. I don't like it. I don't like
3:02:49
this
3:02:49
John C Dvorak: guy. This robot guy. is the best I've heard so
3:02:53
far. The one that the other one. They kind of stumped me the
3:02:55
first time but then I heard it again. And it went like this.
3:03:01
phone rings. I say hello. I don't hear. I don't hear any
3:03:06
backroom are they? Hello? Yeah. Hello. Hello. Hello. Oh, I'm
3:03:11
sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't hear you at first i I'm Jane from the
3:03:16
blah blah blah. And it goes on and on this little bullshit
3:03:19
thing at the beginning. And I thought that was very creative.
3:03:22
And I after the second time of course, it's obviously a robot.
3:03:26
But Be on the lookout for these things. Record your conversation
3:03:29
Adam Curry: and let us know if that's legit or not cops. Coming
3:03:33
up end of show mixes Tom Starkweather Matty J Rolando
3:03:38
Gonzalez we have phone boy in Phoenix live on or up next on
3:03:42
the No agenda.com Stay in the troll room. Coming to you from
3:03:46
the heart of the Texas Hill Country FEMA Region number six
3:03:48
in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry,
3:03:51
John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley. Well, right now
3:03:54
it's Sunday. And it's where I remain. I'm Jhansi Dvorak,
3:03:57
Adam Curry: we return on Thursday for another episode of
3:04:00
deconstruction, the best podcast in the universe, no agenda,
3:04:03
remember us at the vorak.org/today Until then adios
3:04:07
mofos who we who he is such
3:04:14
Unknown: this is the most dangerous time in the history of
3:04:17
our country, because some bad things happened, you know. Now,
3:04:22
in terms of money and kind of trillions and trillions. We're
3:04:25
talking about that that much. We're now in a Marxism state of
3:04:29
mind that communism state of mind, which is far worse. They
3:04:35
have the greatest line of bullshit of any group of people
3:04:39
I've ever seen. They want windmills all over the place
3:04:43
that ruin our fields Killip birds and a very unreliable
3:04:48
there would have been no dead people. Baby bonuses, the war
3:04:54
monger they want windmills all over the place that ruin our
3:04:57
fields kill off birds. was very unreliable. People do like me to
3:05:03
go off script a little bit right? It's a little bit more
3:05:06
risky but it's more exciting. They want windmills all over the
3:05:10
place that feels kilohertz and very unreliable. It seems that
3:05:17
every single day is April Fool's Day
3:05:22
John C Dvorak: tick around on tick tock. Nobody needs tick
3:05:25
tock and
3:05:25
Adam Curry: everybody all riled up.
3:05:26
John C Dvorak: Well, I've never been that attached to it but I
3:05:29
mean, I will look at stuff just seems
3:05:31
Adam Curry: like a gut check where you tick tock
3:05:33
John C Dvorak: tick tock, no, I
3:05:34
Unknown: mean, I look at tick tock,
3:05:36
John C Dvorak: tick tock, tick tock. Like tick tock, tick tock.
3:05:41
Adam Curry: Of course you do is ruining people. Tick tock grown
3:05:45
men scrolling for an hour
3:05:48
John C Dvorak: and they go on tick tock, and then we do it
3:05:49
maybe a couple times a week.
3:05:51
Adam Curry: I'm all for it. By the way.
3:05:53
John C Dvorak: What is tick tock or any product like that either.
3:05:57
Adam Curry: Tick tock gives us their data, which is probably no
3:06:00
different from Facebook or Instagram. Okay.
3:06:05
John C Dvorak: So when are we going to do dig around on tick
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tock? People are addicted to tick tock I like to
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Adam Curry: discuss what is occupying people's minds is tick
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tock suspects that
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Unknown: China is using the app to spy on Americans to ban does
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not impact the more than 100 million Americans. Please tick
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tock on non government devices.
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Adam Curry: We want to track our people we can have someone else
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doing that
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John C Dvorak: and it was used to use my phone to no matter
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what anyone says about tick tock or what even your current
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assertions I need my tick tock like tick tock,
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Adam Curry: teaming up with Russia, fentanyl. It's all about
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China. This is the pivot
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John C Dvorak: to track down everyone who had tick tock on
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the phones, and FIRA FYROM is all about
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Adam Curry: China company needs to like tick tock tick tock.
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Unknown: We've got new findings to report on the mysterious
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ailment called
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Havana syndrome Fana
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syndrome Havana syndrome Havana syndrome possibly some finit
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energy weapon maybe a microwave device microwave
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energy must certain form of pressure wave within the
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hospital
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so many questions and not a lot of answers. Symptoms range from
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dizziness, headaches and memory loss to cognitive impairment so
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severe that some victims say they can no longer work. There's
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no credible evidence the mysterious neurological
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symptoms, pre existing medical conditions. Still so many
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questions and not a lot of answers.
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The US government has a lot more information Havana syndrome
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Havana syndrome of antecessor 100 State Department personnel
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and CIA officers afflicted around the world seven
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different US intelligence agency remains as much of a history is
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that our teachers focused on Russia preexisting conditions,
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conventional illnesses and environmental factors that's
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still classified. Collectively the mysterious illness
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we were not confident in the form of microwave radiation and
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the law
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requires the government to compensate victims for
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qualifying brain injury.
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We didn't have any direct evidence there is no credible
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evidence that a foreign adversary has a weapon who is
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causing
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these incidents innocent or multi year investigation and
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many of these
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1500 reported cases
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for.org/and A for not listening to this on 1.5
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John C Dvorak: Okay, go no agenda strikes again.
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Adam Curry: I don't think we're friends.
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John C Dvorak: You're no good. You're just as bad as those
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people. It's a terrible product.
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