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Adam Curry: I don't like
schools. Adam curry Jhansi
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Devorah they march this 2023
This your award winning nation
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media assassination episode
1535. This is no agenda.
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harboring you from Havana
syndrome man broadcasting live
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from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in the region
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number six. Morning everybody.
I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I've
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discovered that one teaspoon
equals five milliliters. I'm
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John C. Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Having grown up in
in Europe and being completely
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decimate alized. Is that a word?
Yeah, Metro Metro sized, was
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decimated. Now, that's always
after the show where I'm
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decimated. I you know, I have
the biggest problem with ounces
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and teaspoons and tablespoons. I
mean, I can follow a recipe but
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I have no idea. I mean, the fact
that you figured out a teaspoon
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was five milliliters that that
that must be a fluke.
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John C Dvorak: I've decided to
make these opening show things
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educational, I
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Adam Curry: liked that I liked
that we used to do Confucius
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says I think the educational
part is good. The and these are
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handy tips you can use around
the house and the kitchen. Too,
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I'd like it as a good idea.
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John C Dvorak: Well, the way you
get around, I know what you're
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talking about about this, you
know, because you look at a lot
1:30
of recipes. There's European
Wednesday, never, they don't
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care about ounces or anything,
pretty much. And so you got to
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find a good one good program
somewhere that's a converter.
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And you just keep looking it up
over and over and over again
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until you get to know how many
ounces are in a quart and how
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many ounces are in a leader.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, or you can
just use, you know, not use
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liters at all. Just Just use
your ounces. Use your measuring
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cups. The stuff that is tried
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John C Dvorak: measuring cups
have it on both sides now. Oh,
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really? You again? Yes. Really?
shrinkable usually has cups? No.
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And the other side? Is the
middle of the year out of
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Adam Curry: here. Where can I
get such a fine instrument,
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Amazon? I need this in my life.
Okay, now
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John C Dvorak: let me get one of
those cool measuring capsule,
2:20
when you put it in the
dishwasher, it washes off all
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the ink or whatever the paint
that's on there. And what had
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this what happened,
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Adam Curry: whatever that stuff
is, it's probably not not good
2:32
for you. Good. Ladies and
gentlemen. This is a value for
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value program. And I'd like to
start off by explaining why we
2:42
are value for value, which means
we do a show it creates value.
2:47
You receive that value if it's
valuable to you, if not why you
2:51
listening go away. If it is then
return that in time, talent or
2:55
treasure because we don't want
creepy corporations. We don't
2:58
want ads we want to be able to
speak freely. You know this was
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not a not an ad for an Amazon
measuring cup. But here is a
3:06
perfect example the perfect
example of two things one, why
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you do not want advertising in
your programming because it will
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it will take over the
programming. And it also gives
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us a perfect example of why tick
tock is very, very dangerous to
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the rest of advertising based
media particularly Google,
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Facebook, Twitter, etc. tock
tick tock. Now you may have seen
3:34
this, this article but the
Genesis is right here on NBC
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Today Show. This is the
McDonald's native ad hoax.
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Unknown: Can we go from French
fries to a fit guy? That's we're
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finding out 100 days of nothing
but McDonald's,
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let's go. Go and eat her that
correctly. Kevin McGinnis from
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Nashville has quickly become a
viral Tick, tick tick tock
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sensation for documenting his
very unique diet journey he's
4:04
eating as you heard nothing but
McDonald's for 100 straight
4:07
days. And so far, he says he's
loving it. We're gonna talk to
4:12
Kevin in just a moment. But
first, here's how it all
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started. I woke up this morning.
And I weighed in at 238 pounds.
4:20
And I decided that that is
absolutely unacceptable. So I
4:24
drove down to McDonald's. I'm
going to eat nothing but
4:26
McDonald's for the next 100
days. But instead of eating
4:30
everything they give me I'm
gonna go ahead and cut the meals
4:33
in
4:33
half. And he's here with us now,
Kevin, good morning to you.
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Morning. You found him on TV.
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I was watching tick tock and oh
yeah, well, cup of 2038 pounds.
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He was disgusted with himself.
He wanted to finally put his
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foot down on his weight. So he
put it on the gas pedal and
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drove to McDonald's. And I
thought, well, this is
4:50
interesting, and I'm following
your 10 day journey so far. And
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I think what really hooked me
was that it's working.
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Absolutely working. We're gonna
come up with this idea.
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Adam Curry: All right, let's
just break this down. on for a
5:00
moment, in a no a no morning
show world does Carson Daly get
5:06
to determine a segment about
McDonald's ever, ever. That is a
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plant from McDonald's. The guy's
tick tock videos have McDonald's
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logos on it superimposed. And
then to add insult to injury, we
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throw in the slogan Oh, I'm
loving it. What a hoax. Now, I
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will say, if I eat McDonald's
just one time, I lose weight to
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because I'm just a pass through
guy in that case. So I mean,
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that's very possible. But wow,
what a scam. This is and it's so
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blatant. Have you seen this?
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John C Dvorak: I saw one. I saw
one version of it. I didn't turn
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it into a no agenda segment
because I never thought I am
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remiss because you're right.
This is a native ad is very well
5:58
produced. I don't know if I call
it a scam. I'd call it a native
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ads, native ads. But they've
they've managed to, to, it's
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incredibly creative. I far as
I'm concerned. Or kudos to
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whoever dreamed this one out.
And I know people that can do
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this kind of work and they work
in there. They're not normal
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advertising people they are they
are these these special. They're
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definitely they're special.
There's definitely stuff and
6:30
they come up with this idea,
these ideas and then they have
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to sell them to the client,
which in this case would be
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McDonald's. And then they have
to then it's easier to it's
6:39
harder to sell to the client,
McDonald's than it is to the
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people taking the money. Yeah,
they just take the money and
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they follow orders.
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Adam Curry: I think that it's
going really well for tick tock
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in the in the advertising world
I have and it's also in the
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shownotes an important slide
from an agency pitch deck where
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they are pitching a switching
away from Facebook and Instagram
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and others to tick tock and the
slide is titled Why tick tock
7:07
why now, you know, the kinds of
slides right, it's like, great.
7:12
Here's a slide. Why now an older
audience is moving to tick tock
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16 To 16k to 16.4% of viewers.
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John C Dvorak: Wait, wait, where
did this deck come from? I'm not
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a tick tock deck. No, it's
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Adam Curry: an agency deck. I'm
not allowed to say which
7:30
John C Dvorak: agency deck
you're not allowed. I promise.
7:33
The same. I'm sure this this
this deck and they always
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spelled de que these. This deck
is is from the HBCUs by more
7:45
than one eight. I will Yeah, I
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Adam Curry: would think you're
right. Yes, I would hope so. An
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older audience is moving to Tik
Tok. 16.4% of viewers are 30 to
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39 21% are 40 to 50 and 61% are
female. I'd say that's a sweet
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spot.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, there you go.
Add your Ching touch.
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Adam Curry: Tick tock is the
most downloaded app of 2022 in
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2020. And this is this is meant
to discredit the other ones in
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2022 downloads surpassed
Instagram and Facebook. So
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that's that's, that is what you
give a client or potential
8:19
client to say clearly tiktoks a
better place on the move on the
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trending Stranding. And here's
the killer. More time is spent
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watching tick tock videos then
on Netflix viewer spend an
8:33
average of 99 zero minutes per
day on GTalk Wow, we're lost.
8:40
We're lost. We're lost as a
country. And this and this is
8:45
why we need to get rid of tick
tock I don't know. I've gotten
8:51
so many so much pushback on this
people saying no man that's not
8:54
true. Because all the Patriots
on Tik Tok they hate that
8:57
because you know all the stuff
is getting banned from YouTube
9:00
but on tick tock is not getting
banned. Trust me brothers.
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John C Dvorak: Hey, can I
interrupt? Yeah, please do. So I
9:08
go on tick tock once every two
days or so. And then I just just
9:12
to see because I'm cookie list.
I'm not. I don't I just go jump
9:17
on it out of the blue. But
sometimes I come in from
9:20
somebody else's. You know,
somebody says Look at this. And
9:22
so I can think of a few people
that we both know very well, who
9:27
watch tic tac all the time it
seems you know who you are. So I
9:31
go on there and they will and I
just listened to the stream. So
9:35
I watched the one thing okay
when I can maybe I can get a
9:37
clip out of that. Maybe I can't.
And now I let it go for about
9:41
five or 10 minutes so I can see
what's coming up after an after
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and after the mount of at least
on this one stream that I
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latched on to the amount of
Democrat hate is on believable.
9:56
Yeah, it's one video after
another there's this one or the
9:59
one I got the biggest kick out
of his. I didn't record any of
10:03
these was this guy. So how did
we elect this idiot? This guy's
10:08
a scumbag and it just says Biden
walk and stay are staggering
10:12
around. And it's going on and
on. This guy's just just
10:17
demeaning Biden as much as he
can then clicks to the next one,
10:20
it'd be something very similar,
right? And they're all pro
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Trump. Oh, yeah.
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Adam Curry: So it's definitely
going on. But that's not the
10:26
reason that's why I think we can
push back of course, of course,
10:30
but you know, the, the actual
term is their Patriot friendly.
10:34
Okay. If this was a turn off for
advertisers, then they will get
10:41
rid of it. Trust me. That's how
it always works. I also did the
10:46
earth ritual, not this not
necessarily tick tock related,
10:48
but the withdrawal smears, which
is, I guess it literally is
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Splenda, the sweetener or three
tall
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John C Dvorak: Splenda. Yeah, we
10:58
Adam Curry: talked about on the
last episode we did. Now I
11:00
remember this controversy back
in the pod show days 2006 2007
11:06
splendor was one of our first
post read advertisers. And we
11:10
had a whole sheet that explained
how to push back against the,
11:15
you know, it's going to kill you
meme, which was out there. So
11:19
this this thing has been around
for a long, long time. So why is
11:23
this researching now? Now, it
may be that there's no competing
11:27
advertising products in the
market. But I thought this was a
11:30
really good one. From one of our
producers, Earther tall has been
11:34
made hugely popular by adherence
of keto and similar low carb
11:39
diets. He said, like the
carnivore diet. And I know this
11:43
to be true, because I know
several new keto was always I
11:46
mean, I think the last five
years, keto has just gone up and
11:49
up and up and up. You know, to
me, it's just like, Oh, his
11:51
addict, it really is his people
to go nuts over keto. And so
11:56
part of the keto diet is a
healthy, healthy sampling of
12:03
earth or tall or Splenda, in
your, I guess, in your coffee,
12:06
or your tea, or maybe you're
cooking. And the accusation here
12:11
is that this is actually a way
to bring down keto altogether.
12:17
Now, I'm not sure if that's 100%
Correct. But I like the
12:20
association. Because we have to
get rid of actual animal protein
12:24
and meat, you know, we have to
prepare people for the future of
12:26
food.
12:28
John C Dvorak: Well, this trend
is going just the opposite
12:30
direction. What do you mean?
These diets are making people
12:35
eat just pure protein and fat
12:37
Adam Curry: Right? Right. So
they want people off of that
12:39
John C Dvorak: well, to go as
well this isn't gonna do it.
12:43
That's kind of a name where you
go
12:45
Adam Curry: I'm just I'm just
saying it's one answer to the
12:48
question as to why now and I
just don't see a competing
12:51
product in the market yet it
could becoming
12:55
John C Dvorak: could become a
try these other things like with
12:57
sets of seven all or Steven
suffer others, stevia, stevia,
13:01
stevia, stevia, and it's bitter.
You know, it's sweet and bitter,
13:06
so that's no good. I don't know
they got to esperto army or
13:10
whatever this called aspartame.
13:14
Adam Curry: Aspartame,
aspartame, aspartame.
13:18
John C Dvorak: You know, you
could just add sugar once in a
13:20
while? Yes. punani. Maybe, man,
you know what I like for my
13:28
sweetener is maple syrup. Once
you get used, for example of
13:32
using maple syrup. He used maple
syrup and coffee. Yeah, match
13:37
made in heaven.
13:38
Adam Curry: Can I tell you a
recipe that I do and you're
13:40
gonna go with that discussion?
Okay,
13:42
John C Dvorak: Lloyd do it. You
just did it for me. So I don't
13:45
have to do that. When I
13:46
Adam Curry: bake salmon in the
oven. Yeah, on the top of the
13:50
salmon. I'll drizzle just a
little bit of maple syrup. And
13:55
then cover that with lemon
pepper. And then you bake it in
14:00
the oven with a little bit of
broil the last three minutes. Ah
14:08
that was close enough. I'll take
that. I'll take our ha You
14:10
should try it. If you'd like
maple syrup. It actually kind of
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add you
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John C Dvorak: like maple syrup.
I would put me I'll try maple
14:16
syrup on salmon. Yeah, just
drizzle
14:17
Adam Curry: a couple drizzles
couple drizzles. Dump it on
14:20
there. Quite nice. Why don't we
just get into climate change for
14:24
a second because I've got some
exciting things so exciting
14:27
about climate change. The the
first, the first thing that I
14:35
have here really solves a big
question that we've been looking
14:39
at is what is it with all of
European countries moving into
14:45
Africa. Now we've had the
French, the PA Macron. We've had
14:50
the Germans in there. We haven't
had the Brits in there, but I'm
14:54
sure the Dutch are in there. Of
course. We're also in there. The
14:58
US everyone everyone's in Athens
Look at doing stuff. And you
15:02
know, of course we're, I'm sure
China is part of the reason
15:05
Russia is part of the reason the
US as part of the reach
15:07
everyone, but what are we really
doing? And then this came across
15:12
my desk. Well, I don't really
have a desk but my email, and
15:17
I'm like, oh yeah, this makes a
lot of sense because Africa will
15:21
be the new source of green
hydrogen, it will be the battery
15:25
content continent. This huge
15:28
Unknown: renewable energy forum
is Germany's hope for a greener
15:30
future. It's not being built in
Germany, though, but in Namibia,
15:35
one of Germany's former
colonies. It's meant to produce
15:39
green hydrogen, the fuel of the
future to get away from fossil
15:43
fuels. That's the promise. When
he went to Namibia, Germany's
15:48
economy and climate Minister Oba
Tabak stressed he wants a
15:51
partnership between equals and
avoid a green energy
15:54
imperialism. Big trucks for
those countries this
15:58
is crazy. This is becoming
16:01
like battery country industries
like steelmaking, heavy
16:04
transport or chemicals can
simply switch to electricity
16:07
from renewable sources. That is
where green hydrogen comes in.
16:10
Green hydrogen right now is a
lot more expensive than other
16:14
fuels, which is why it is
sometimes called the champagne
16:17
of energy sources, partly
because of infrastructure,
16:20
transit and safety issues, but
mainly because massive amounts
16:24
of renewable energy are needed
to create it. So we have to look
16:27
at countries with good
preconditions. So because it
16:30
doesn't have enough wind and
solar capacities, Germany wants
16:33
to import hydrogen and its
derivatives. In order to do so
16:37
it has set up energy
partnerships with a lot of
16:39
countries, many of them in the
Global South. in Namibia, a
16:43
German company is planning this
10 billion euro energy project.
16:48
Wind and solar farms will power
the process of electrolysis
16:51
water from the nearby ocean will
be pumped in my pipeline. The
16:55
company promises that the local
economy will benefit as well
16:59
with new jobs and access to
energy and water. Minister
17:03
hubback stressed that Germany
would only input energy that
17:06
Namibia doesn't need for
domestic consumption and that
17:09
the project above all has to
serve the citizens of the
17:12
African nation.
17:13
Adam Curry: Now I'm sure that
all take place. I love green
17:16
hydrogen as the champagne of
energy. I just love it.
17:21
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's a good
phrase. I like it. overprice
17:24
champagne. In fact, we did a
sweet talked about this a couple
17:29
of months ago when this first
started doing it. And what's
17:33
overlooked in this store is it
kind of says, you know, some
17:36
wind and some solar No, I don't
believe they are blanketing the
17:40
area with the solar panels from
China, I might add Chinese solar
17:45
panels and they're pretty much
covering up as much as the
17:48
countryside as they can and then
create putting these factories
17:51
at the Create they use the
electricity to use to sushi near
17:55
the coast. Yeah, to break up the
water and put the hydrogen in a
18:00
big tanker and then hauled to
Europe. This is dumb.
18:04
Adam Curry: I also don't think
it's ever going to be enough
18:05
energy honestly. You nuclear
Yeah, if they didn't nuclear, I
18:10
believe it. But how about they
have maybe there's putting up
18:14
coal plants. And we'll just say,
Oh, look at look at the shiny
18:18
solar panels. And this also
explains South Africa, South
18:23
Africa's entire infrastructure
is now on the verge of collapse.
18:27
If we can believe the reporting,
this is another great country to
18:30
go in and do this. And maybe
it's just greenwashing you know,
18:35
maybe who knows? What if it's,
you know, 10 billion doesn't
18:38
seem like a lot by the way to
create green hydrogen. None of
18:44
it seems like it's realistic.
I'm not enough of a energy Maven
18:48
to know if the solar panels can
create enough to actually create
18:53
hydrolysis that no and on any
meaningful level
18:59
John C Dvorak: I'm pretty sure
they can do a meaningful level
19:02
but you still have the problem
with hydrogen it's a terrible
19:05
product isn't leeches through
everything it's one of the ships
19:09
is going to catch on fire one of
these days. It's just a pain in
19:13
the ass to work with.
19:15
Adam Curry: It's like Hindenburg
ships.
19:19
John C Dvorak: Berg ship.
19:23
Adam Curry: Is that the only way
to store and transport it?
19:27
John C Dvorak: I can't think of
any other way. And at least if
19:29
it's coming from Africa, yeah,
they got to put it on a boat,
19:32
man, they get it some
pressurized containers. They're
19:36
not going to turn it into liquid
hydrogen. That would really be a
19:39
pain in the butt. Because this
is dumb.
19:44
Adam Curry: Well, I just I
really kind of love that whole
19:51
story is how it was really,
really, really, really good. And
19:54
it fits in perfectly. Now
climate change is moving in on
19:57
us and it's moving in so fast
that the The 15 minute cities
20:01
which we know are intended
specifically to mitigate climate
20:05
change, now that the cat is out
of the bag, like we were seeing
20:10
it and all over the world,
certainly in the United Kingdom,
20:14
these 15 minute cities are
actually happening. So the BBC
20:17
came out with a 10 minute piece
to debunk that the 15 Minute
20:23
cities are, well, what they're
doing is they're taking it from
20:27
No, let's, let's put it this
way, what we know about 15
20:31
minute cities, the idea is that
you should be able to take
20:34
public transport or walk to
anything you need, anything your
20:38
life can, can provide that you
are there is a necessity, within
20:42
15 minutes. Now, what comes on
top of that is all these cameras
20:47
and barriers that make sure that
you add fines and fines, it
20:51
makes sure that you can't travel
outside your zone without being
20:56
fined. And that is based upon
climate change. So what they're
21:00
doing now, and the BBC did a
very good job of this, and I cut
21:03
that down to two minutes, which
is still long, but it has all
21:06
the pertinent pieces in there.
They are now twisting this and
21:10
saying, This is a conspiracy
theory. 15 minutes City's
21:14
conspiracy theory none of its
true, because their idea I know
21:18
see that they're twisting it by
saying people are saying this is
21:22
climate change lockdown, which
of course is exactly what it is.
21:26
But they're taking it one step
further and saying you'll be
21:29
locked in your house. That's not
what this is. 15 minutes cities
21:32
aren't about that. Have a
listen.
21:33
Unknown: What if it could be
different? What if we
21:36
Adam Curry: could create a new
where we reclaim our time?
21:39
Again, this is the BBC health
and
21:41
Unknown: wellbeing, food,
medicine, education and leisure,
21:45
all within a 15 minute walk or
cycle theory. The idea of 15
21:49
minutes cities have spread to
Paris, Melbourne and South
21:52
Korea, attracted by the promise
of lower car use and a better
21:56
quality of life. But it's also
become the focus of conspiracies
21:59
that travel outside these
neighborhoods would be
22:01
restricted sort of climate
locked down. disinformation.
22:05
Researchers say this all started
with the pandemic. So the idea
22:09
of climate lockdown first
appeared in March 2020. When
22:13
news of the lockdowns in Wuhan
as a result of the COVID 19
22:16
pandemic first broke into
international news. And the
22:19
terminology came from a set of
accounts in the US who were
22:22
linked to a fossil fuel think
tank called the Heartland
22:25
Institute.
22:26
Adam Curry: Have we ever heard
of the think tank, the Heartland
22:30
Institute be being no being the
source of this 15 minutes? No,
22:35
John C Dvorak: no, the source as
far as I'm concerned was Oxford.
22:37
Adam Curry: Thank you, Ben, the
BBC.
22:39
Unknown: Really it was a
reframing of very old vocabulary
22:43
that imagines this future of so
called Climate tyranny or green
22:47
tyranny, where individual civil
liberties are stripped away
22:50
under the pretext of solving
climate change. 15 minutes
22:53
cities have been drawn into this
narrative of insidious control.
22:57
In the UK, one particular target
has been Oxford, where
23:00
misinformation has recently led
to counselors receiving death
23:03
threats.
23:04
We've been receiving many calls
and emails for worried residents
23:08
in genuine fear that they might
be locked in their own homes.
23:13
Whereas the death threat,
23:14
criticism has also been leveled
at the way the proposals have
23:17
been communicated.
23:18
There were no great efforts for
everybody in the city to be made
23:22
aware of what's happening and
some people still don't actually
23:23
know what's happening. You can
see why certain people turn to
23:27
conspiracy theories. Theories
23:29
a wider point in all this
though, behavioral change is
23:32
seen by many experts as a
crucial part of achieving legal
23:36
and binding climate targets. The
UK is climate change legally
23:39
binding climate targets
committee has for example urged
23:42
the government to create plans
to reduce demand for air travel
23:45
and help change people's diets.
This recent concern and
23:49
conspiracy shows how these kinds
of policies are communicated
23:52
maybe central to the
23:54
Adam Curry: love this so they're
saying no, of course we're
23:57
trying to motivate people to
change their diets which means
24:02
no more meat, fake meat etc
change their travel which means
24:06
no airplanes don't go outside
your zone shitless and and now
24:09
they're actually gonna say yeah,
this is important work we're
24:13
doing AI success we
24:16
John C Dvorak: if you back it up
a little bit. She says all these
24:19
crazy things which resulted in
people complaining which she
24:23
better believe it. And S and she
says that the pushback is a
24:30
conspiracy theory. Yes. She
talking about
24:35
Unknown: there is a wider point
in all this though. behavioral
24:37
change is seen by many experts
as a crucial part of achieving
24:41
the UK is legally binding
climate targets. The UK climate
24:45
change committee has for
example, urged the government to
24:47
create plans to reduce demand
for air travel and help change
24:50
people's diets. This recent
concern and conspiracy shows how
24:55
these kinds of policies are
communicated may be central to
24:58
Adam Curry: your rights you
literally As these concerns and
25:01
consent, did you say an
conspiracy? Think she said yes,
25:05
something
25:05
John C Dvorak: like that it was
just like she passed it off as
25:08
though. First they say, we like
to get people to stuck in their
25:13
houses in a little area when
they can't walk too far, and
25:15
they can't travel, they can't,
and we're going to eliminate air
25:18
travel, they're going to have to
eat Beyond Meat. And, and and
25:22
people think that this is a
conspiracy,
25:25
Adam Curry: the crazy nutters,
25:26
Unknown: this recent concern and
conspiracy shows how these kinds
25:30
of policies are communicated,
maybe central to their success.
25:33
What we find in research is
actually if you're completely
25:36
transparent about nudges, so if
you think about the idea that
25:39
some policy proposals are
designed to change people's
25:41
behavior, and what the
government thinks are positive
25:43
ways, if you actually state what
the goals are of the nudge, be
25:46
transparent and honest about it.
It doesn't reduce the efficacy
25:50
of those types of initiatives at
all. Very interesting. This guy,
25:54
Hey, yeah,
25:56
John C Dvorak: we forgot about
the nudges. We forgot to help
25:58
nudge agency and they did these
nudges the England was based on
26:02
doing nudges. That's
26:04
Adam Curry: why I left it in.
And the reason for that is
26:08
WhatsApp gate. Which is the the
100,000 messages that Matt
26:14
Hancock, over there in the UK,
during a thing as December 2020
26:22
was discussing all of these
nudges, but the nudges really
26:26
went much further, saying things
like, hey, let's let's release
26:31
the new strain or a communicate
the new strain will frighten
26:35
those, though, right? I saw that
will frighten the pants off
26:37
everyone with the new strain.
Now. What this tells me is they
26:43
weren't releasing new strains,
but they were totally scaring
26:46
people. And when we do deploy
the new variant, and I think
26:51
deploy the tried the messaging
about the new variant, you know,
26:53
they're not actually deploying
new variant, although I wouldn't
26:56
put it past these creeps. And
then stuff like more mask
27:00
wearing might be the only thing
to consider. Yes, effective,
27:04
free and has a very visible
visible impact, wearing masks
27:08
and all settings outside the
home and in more workplaces.
27:10
This is going to work for us. So
that does show the lunacy of
27:19
these people.
27:20
John C Dvorak: And what is this
about? legally required climate
27:24
targets whatever she said at the
beginning of her speech? Oh,
27:27
Adam Curry: that's all agenda 51
stuff. That's bull crap.
27:30
John C Dvorak: What's that?
What's? What's that? What
27:31
happens if you don't do it? Well
get a ticket. Yeah, you have to
27:35
pay you have to go see a
constable. What do you have to
27:37
do here?
27:39
Adam Curry: You got shamed. You
could shame that the next
27:41
meeting in Paris. Hey, you I've
not been doing your work. No
27:47
pure hairdo for you. Of course,
this is exactly what you know,
27:52
agenda 21 is about and all of
these, all of these agreements
27:57
at the United Nations level. Of
course, all the climate stuff is
28:02
all legally binding. Because we
have agreements. We have
28:04
resolutions, we signed off on
stuff. And this is why you have
28:10
the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan,
who is pushing as another
28:15
climate change policy, which is
what is this thing called? It's
28:21
the Ulez Ultra Low Emission zone
Ulez that London should be an
28:31
ultra low emission zone Ulez.
And what does that mean? Battery
28:36
cars, of course, are better
hydrogen cars clean green
28:41
hydrogen high. So during
people's Question Time, which is
28:45
an open forum, where people can
question the mayor. He decided
28:50
it was best to shame these
people who are against the idea
28:54
of only battery cars or hydrogen
cars being allowed into London.
28:58
And he did it with a couple of
good old tropes.
29:01
Unknown: So objections in 2006
we banned smoking from public
29:05
places and their objections.
Now, what I find unacceptable,
29:10
though, is some of those who've
got legitimate objections,
29:13
joining hands with some of those
outside who are part of a far
29:17
right group.
29:24
Let's be frank, that's cool.
Let's call a spade a spade. Some
29:28
of those outside are part of the
fall, right? Summer, summer
29:34
deniers deniers summer Tories
29:45
Adam Curry: if you're against
Ultra Low Emission zone, then
29:50
you are anti Vax anti COVID And
you're a Tory.
29:54
Unknown: The man has a right to
be heard right. Don't look this
29:59
way. In this people's question
time, it's up to you to have a
30:03
change of views, lots of
macrocell, please, otherwise we
30:06
will we can we could enter this
very, very quickly.
30:09
Adam Curry: If you'd if you keep
doing that, we're just gonna end
30:11
it. We're just gonna not talk
any more to you. Okay, we can do
30:13
that whenever we want
30:15
Unknown: to those people, to
those people who've got
30:18
legitimate concerns by the fact,
some of you, I've got good
30:25
reasons to oppose you less. But
you're in coalition with COVID
30:30
deniers, again, coalition. You
may not like it. You may not
30:35
like it. You may not like it.
You may like you're in coalition
30:42
with the far right. You're in
coalition with vaccine tonight
30:47
as well.
30:51
John C Dvorak: So even if you're
not far right, a vaccine denier
30:55
anything that's fringe from his
perspective, and you have a good
31:00
reason for disliking this idea,
and there's probably plenty.
31:04
You're no good. You're just as
bad as those people. Yeah,
31:09
pretty. So this is not a
question and answer time.
31:11
Adam Curry: Now, this is a
scolding time.
31:13
John C Dvorak: This is nonsense.
This guy stinks. I you know, the
31:16
fact that he's Mayor of London
or anything, I mean, he's he's
31:21
like Trudeau. He's almost like a
Trudeau.
31:26
Adam Curry: Yeah, only Trudeau
won't let you yell at him like
31:28
that. He just won't he just
won't show up for that stuff.
31:35
Now, I got one more clip here.
And and this is really about,
31:39
about the warming of the earth.
Well, maybe I should set up this
31:45
way. Have we seen incredible
warming of California in the
31:50
past month?
31:52
John C Dvorak: Let me interrupt
your clip edge. Okay. With a
31:57
clip. Oh, very good. And the
clip will be just because
32:01
elucidates your point. Yes. I
have. California under
32:07
California snowed in
32:09
Unknown: in the San Bernardino
area of California residents say
32:13
they are frustrated by the
response to winter weather
32:16
that's dumped record snowfall
and back to back storms. People
32:19
are still trapped in their
homes. Grocery stores are
32:22
running out of food. Some roads
remain closed. Nina Clark works
32:26
at the Community Market in Big
Bear where supplies are
32:29
dwindling.
32:30
It feels like it's the end of
the world or something like
32:32
we're like we're just being
completely ignored and forgotten
32:36
about.
32:37
And Tanya Henkelman is a
coordinator of a civilian
32:40
response that's been collecting
donations, and then using either
32:43
helicopters or snowmobiles to
deliver much needed food. She
32:47
says Help is being coordinated
32:49
have notifications of newborns
that have no food available.
32:54
kits that are starving. And it's
heartbreaking to see how we
33:00
civilians have taken upon to do
the job.
33:03
More snow is forecast
33:04
Adam Curry: this weekend. In the
time that you've lived in
33:07
California, which has been quite
a while. Have you ever witnessed
33:11
this type of record breaking
snowfall?
33:14
John C Dvorak: I get no is it
winter?
33:16
Adam Curry: Winter I mean
there's trapped California
33:20
mountain residents plead for
help snowed in and
33:23
John C Dvorak: nobody's giving
him any help either. It's like
33:25
too bad. You know, your your
gear is warming don't exhaust
33:30
Adam Curry: Exactly. How does
that report gel with this one
33:34
from Deutsche Avella.
33:35
Unknown: A new analysis of
global co2 emissions put out by
33:38
the International Energy Agency
is a mix of both good and bad
33:41
news. Oh, the headline figure is
a record high for energy related
33:45
emissions in 2022 to almost 37
billion tons. That's nearly a
33:50
full percent more than the prior
year. On the bright side, rising
33:54
clean technologies, including
solar cells and battery powered
33:56
vehicles help limit overall
emissions. Oh, those
33:59
technologies are poised to play
an even greater role in the
34:02
years ahead. That's according to
the report. Alright, because
34:06
Jonah is an energy researcher at
the Regensburg University of
34:09
Applied Sciences. He joins me
for more, because thank you for
34:12
coming to the show. The IEA says
that recovery from the COVID 19
34:17
pandemic is proving more
sustainable than past crises. Do
34:21
you see that there is indeed
good news in this report? Are we
34:24
just so desperate to find a
silver lining, when overall
34:28
energy related emissions
actually went up?
34:31
Now, I think it's really good
news because the energy
34:33
transition is already working.
Without this, we would have
34:36
three times more emission
raising.
34:39
Adam Curry: It's already
working, you're soaking in and
34:42
match so it's
34:42
Unknown: already helping and
reaching our climate goals,
34:45
reducing energy independence in
dependency, and stabilize our
34:49
economy. I mean, there are
feelings of tons of co2 avoided
34:52
billions of euros that don't go
through the pipelines to Russia
34:56
but remain in our economic and
your European German economy.
34:59
This Stay here, they create jobs
to create welfare. That's the
35:03
good side. But we also like to
discuss the IRA, we need to
35:07
stabilize that by doing right
policy making
35:11
Adam Curry: sure if I understand
it, we've actually been too
35:15
successful because you know,
people are trapped and can't get
35:18
out of Northern California,
because it's all working so
35:22
well. I mean, and we still had,
I mean, this should be warming
35:28
the crap out of everything, but
it's not I'm baffled I don't
35:32
understand.
35:34
John C Dvorak: Because it's a
hoax. I think you can go back to
35:38
the global cooling days and
35:40
Adam Curry: yes, I'm ready to
believe that Oh, you don't even
35:43
believe it's because of co2.
That makes more sense it just
35:48
logically because of more
greenhouse gases, it's going
35:52
we're going into a global
cooling that was the promise in
35:56
the 70s
35:59
John C Dvorak: but wasn't due to
the greenhouse gases it was
36:02
reflections and and the
reflection off especially about
36:07
off the north pole as more snow
increase it reflected more heat
36:11
off the Earth had a bigger area
so that area reflected the sun
36:16
and that would cause the cooling
effect and once it began and the
36:21
once the I mean from what I've
seen the glaciers have been
36:26
retreating. And I think that's
true which is good. We don't
36:31
want glaciers they're no good
36:34
Adam Curry: they're annoying
they get in
36:37
John C Dvorak: the way and then
if those things stop retreating
36:41
and start going in the other
direction we're in trouble
36:46
that's I'm on the lookout for
Hmm good yes it's it's been the
36:54
weather here has been it's
actually been quite nice around
36:57
here because what it does it
rains for two days and is clear
36:59
and sunny for two days in a
range like gal the current sunny
37:03
so you don't have flooding and
but all that rain every time the
37:06
two days comes around. It rains
here but then it goes up to the
37:10
mountains and dumps a ton like
yesterday down five feet. Yeah
37:14
of snow in march up the mountain
is snowing a lot. Well, is that
37:23
your weather report for
yesterday?
37:24
Adam Curry: That's what I have
for today. Yes, yes. That's what
37:26
I have for last time Ukrainian
37:28
John C Dvorak: stuff I want to
get out with but I first of all
37:31
I want to get I have a series of
clips. Okay. From Bill Browder.
37:39
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Bill
Browder is is the guy who got
37:43
kicked out of Russia got put on
the no entry list. And
37:46
apparently all his money was
stolen.
37:49
John C Dvorak: It's even it's
worth reading his wiki page. I
37:53
recommend it's like reading a
novel.
37:55
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. It's true
crime drama. It's phenomenal.
37:59
What this guy's
38:00
John C Dvorak: absolves as you
US citizenship. He's become a UK
38:08
citizen. He has diminished ski,
whatever it is, the bunch of
38:12
laws were passed. Because his
lawyer was murdered by the
38:17
Russians, and it's just a damn
story. Interesting story. But
38:20
he, for all practical purposes
hates the Russians. Oh, yes.
38:25
Yes. Yeah. Particularly the one
behind the idea that we should
38:31
steal their money.
38:35
Adam Curry: Okay, are you gonna
prove to me that I'm wrong? Is
38:36
that what this is about?
38:38
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
you did. That was wrong. But you
38:40
said it was not you. We could do
it. But he himself says we
38:43
can't. No, no. Sovereign
immunity to
38:48
Adam Curry: correction, small
correction. I said, they are
38:52
doing everything they can to
change whatever international
38:55
law is to be able to do it.
That's exactly what I said.
39:00
John C Dvorak: I'm not gonna
disagree with that. But I don't
39:03
think they're, they're making
that much of an effort that you
39:06
might believe, okay, I think
there's this guy and a bunch of
39:09
other people making noise is not
going to happen. It'd be funny
39:13
if it did, but let's listen to
him. He's on. He's on. Mmm. Poor
39:17
show. Yes. And he's being
interviewed by Walter Isaacson
39:25
statuary, Eisen, whatever his
name is the guy who did the
39:27
Steve Jobs biography, the guy
who's got the white hair and as
39:30
azimoff,
39:31
Adam Curry: wasn't it? No one
says no,
39:33
John C Dvorak: no, I isn't. The
guy who did?
39:38
Adam Curry: I hear you that he's
a
39:40
John C Dvorak: he looks to be a
spook, as far as I'm concerned.
39:42
The head of the Aspen Institute.
39:44
Adam Curry: Isaacson, Walter
Isaacson, exactly controls.
39:50
John C Dvorak: So here we go.
This is kind of interesting.
39:52
Then it goes on and goes. I've
got a lot of clips, but the ads
39:56
are not short, but they're not
long, but they're interesting
39:59
and I think you'll like it. This
is Bill Browder, one money from
40:03
Russia.
40:05
Unknown: We could isolate Russia
much further than we're
40:07
currently doing. If we said to
everybody, you know, it's either
40:11
us or them, and and everybody
always votes with their feet and
40:15
votes with the money when it
comes right down to it. We
40:17
haven't put that to them. We
haven't been toughen that way.
40:20
That's one thing we could do.
There's one other thing which
40:22
I've been going around the world
talking about, which I think
40:26
would make a big difference in
the war in Ukraine, which is
40:29
that after the war started, the
first thing the Western
40:32
governments did was we thought
we froze $350 billion, oh,
40:36
reserves, the war has done one,
at least a trillion, maybe $1.2
40:41
trillion of damage to Ukraine.
Russia has done the damage, we
40:45
have custody their money,
instead of just having that
40:48
money frozen, that money should
be confiscated, and handed over
40:52
to the Ukrainians both for their
defense and their
40:54
reconstruction. Good and broke
it, he should fix it. That's
40:59
probably the single biggest
thing we could do in the very
41:01
short term, to tip the balance
and Ukraine's favor in this
41:06
whole conflict,
41:07
explained to me the mechanics of
confidence skating, that central
41:11
bank was so good,
41:13
well, so at the moment, those
reserves are protected by
41:16
something called sovereign
immunity. Sovereign Immunity
41:19
means that anything that belongs
to a country estate can't be
41:23
taken away, you can't like just
move into the embassy because
41:26
you would like that property,
because it belongs to that
41:28
country. And normally, that
would be a reasonable thing. And
41:32
that's how international law has
worked for the last many, many
41:36
years.
41:37
Adam Curry: Oh, this is good. So
sovereign immunity, who who?
41:41
police's, the sovereign
immunity,
41:45
John C Dvorak: this done by
treaties and UN resolutions and
41:49
UN, men's un. So the UN is
pretty much un and if you
41:54
violate it, you are sued
internationally. And
41:58
Adam Curry: if you violate it,
then you get a ticket, or what
42:01
do you get then?
42:03
John C Dvorak: But can rephrase
what I saw a minute ago? Yes.
42:07
Yeah, you get a ticket. Okay.
UK, here's what happens. If you
42:11
do it. For example, Switzerland
has a lot of the Russian money
42:14
and they refused to do anything.
Because they said, people will
42:17
lose confidence in them and
Switzerland, you know, banking
42:20
community, we would we would, if
we did it, we would our stock
42:28
market would collapse. And the
bond market would collapse ever
42:31
really. China would take their
money out if he goes on about
42:35
this. But that's what would
happen. We would have an
42:37
economic collapse if we tried to
pull this
42:40
Adam Curry: and I can just say
one thing about that. And just
42:43
quickly, because I do have some
a little prepared for this. I
42:45
didn't know you're gonna do
Browder. I like it, I really do
42:47
like it. We did pretty much the
same thing with the Iraq
42:52
invasion of Kuwait. And the
lawfare blog, I put it in the in
42:57
the show notes as a pretty good
explanation of how that worked,
43:01
where we literally took their
frozen money and paid in
43:04
reparations to Kuwait. So it has
been done in the past. But this
43:10
may be a different scenario. I'm
not a lawyer, obviously. And it
43:15
could be done through Australia,
because Australia does not
43:18
participate in the sovereign
immunity system. So I mean, it
43:25
seems like a long shot to do it
through them. But it's not not
43:28
the whole world is on board with
this.
43:31
John C Dvorak: We're running the
show here, Australia, it's got
43:33
nothing to do with this
situation in Ukraine, it would
43:36
be ridiculous. But let's play
out this next clip to Putin
43:41
Unknown: has redefined
international crime. He has
43:45
redrawn the borders of Europe,
he's invaded a foreign country
43:48
he's killed. He's been a mass
murderer killed the unimaginable
43:52
numbers of people. And so we're
sitting there in this situation
43:55
where he's reading redefined
international crime. And we're
44:00
we're sitting there saying you
and your money is still
44:02
protected. We need to redefine
international law, to elevate it
44:08
to the level of his the way he's
become an international
44:13
criminal. And what does that
mean specifically? That means
44:16
that that laws have to be passed
in a number of major developed
44:19
countries, which says that
sovereign immunity always
44:23
applies in every single
circumstance, except in the
44:26
circumstance when a country has
invaded a neighboring country
44:31
and committed an act of
aggression, which is being
44:34
defined as deliberations. So
that's the one narrow
44:37
circumstance where sovereign
immunity no longer applies. If
44:42
we did that, if the United
States and the European Union
44:45
and Great Britain and Canada and
Japan rewrote their laws to say
44:49
that sovereign immunity applies
in all circumstances other than
44:52
those, then we could then
confiscate their money.
44:57
Adam Curry: Just to add to that,
I like that, it would mean a re
45:00
writing of the rules, which is
what I said that they're working
45:02
on that, in November of last
year 50 nations co sponsored a
45:06
resolution on establishing an
international mechanism for
45:09
compensation for damage loss and
injury, as well as a register to
45:13
document evidence and claims
that's the crimes of aggression,
45:18
which is now somehow is going to
be the basis of a war crimes.
45:21
It's not there yet a resolution
is just a resolution, but I
45:25
understand what he's saying. And
that would have to happen. And
45:27
you're saying, and maybe rightly
so that we'll never do that we
45:30
will never will never commit to
changing and getting on board by
45:36
getting rid of the sovereign
immunity.
45:40
John C Dvorak: Yes, that's my
position. Okay,
45:42
Adam Curry: that's good. Let's
go on with Browder, which I
45:44
hadn't had didn't expect him on
Browder's side of anything.
45:49
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's
that. Let's go three,
45:53
Unknown: if you wanted to
confiscate the foreign reserves,
45:55
and you've talked about laws
being passed in the West? Would
45:58
China and India have to go
along? Well,
46:02
the thing is that all you have
to do is get the countries that
46:05
have reserve currencies, revise
their laws. So in other words,
46:10
we don't you know, if China, we
don't keep our money in China.
46:15
So it's not a reciprocal thing.
If you get the major reserve
46:18
currencies, the places where,
where Russia keeps their money.
46:21
And by the way, there's one
other great benefit to doing
46:24
this, which is that if we
confiscate Russia's money for
46:28
invading a neighboring country,
who else has got a whole bunch
46:33
of money in the West, that's I'm
tryna potentially going to
46:38
invade a neighboring country,
that's China. Now, some people
46:42
would argue that, that this idea
is a dangerous idea, because
46:46
we're China will just like
abandon all countries and keep
46:49
their money at home. But that
just you know, if it's just the
46:52
US doing this, that might happen
with the dollar. But if
46:54
everybody does it together that
has a reserve currency, then
46:57
China will have to go along with
it. They'll I mean, they have to
47:01
be scared of it.
47:04
Adam Curry: Interesting. Your
mic is banging a lot. Believe
47:10
don't do anything. Yeah, we just
want you grabbing it or
47:12
something. And it just did grab
it. Yeah, yes. Stop grab a
47:15
router for Well, hold on. Yeah.
Could they do that? I mean, it
47:21
makes no sense. I mean, doing
that for Russia doing that for
47:25
any country would make everyone
pissed off. It doesn't isn't
47:27
China's? Don't they have some
version of reserve currency at
47:31
this point? Aren't they being
used as reserve currency? why
47:33
many of those baskets? Yeah, the
SDR the SDRs.
47:41
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but they
got so much money in our bonds
47:43
that what they would do would
dump all the bonds. Miss
47:50
definitely wouldn't. It would be
bad.
47:52
Adam Curry: Just Just to follow
up on that. Just because I have
47:55
these listed 7773 94 countries
voted in favor of the
48:02
reparations resolution. Russia
got 14 votes against and another
48:07
73 countries abstained. And this
is in November, so it doesn't
48:12
seem likely. But Russia has
threatened that they want to
48:15
dissolve the United Nations over
this.
48:18
John C Dvorak: Well, that's
pretty good.
48:22
Adam Curry: You know, I'm kind
of all for that, too. I'm
48:24
confused. Now.
48:25
John C Dvorak: I want to bet we
can do both. Yeah, that'd
48:27
Adam Curry: be great. All right.
All right.
48:29
John C Dvorak: Now I have a clip
that's called idiotic comment.
48:32
Unknown: This is clip flow for
what about in the Middle East?
48:35
both Israel and the Saudis don't
seem to be on board. What do you
48:39
what's the reason for that? And
what can be done?
48:43
Well, I think it's it's really
shameful, that the Israelis who
48:50
are Israel is a country that
that was formed as sort of
48:53
reaction to a genocide are now
seeing a genocide taking place
48:58
in another country and are not
helping out that country. I find
49:00
that really unpleasant and, and
disturbing. Wait, why is that?
49:05
Do you think? Well, their
argument is that the Russians
49:08
are in Syria, Syria, poses a
existential threat to Israel,
49:13
and therefore, they've got to
play all different sides. I
49:18
think they could easily for
example, the Israelis have an
49:21
Iron Dome defense situation,
which prevents people from
49:25
bombing them. They should
provide that Iron Dome defense
49:30
mechanism to Ukraine so that
they're not the Ukrainian
49:33
infrastructure isn't destroyed,
they can easily help the
49:35
Ukrainians with defensive
weapons. What
49:41
Adam Curry: were the ones that
provide the so called Iron Dome?
49:43
Not Israel's not going to get
this Raytheon? Thank you.
49:47
Raytheon's the one who supply
not even the US is Raytheon,
49:50
John C Dvorak: and the Iron Dome
around Tel Aviv, specifically,
49:55
it doesn't work. It doesn't work
a a it doesn't work. Be it's a
50:00
small area. Ukraine is the size
of two massive countries like
50:06
France and Germany combined.
Yeah. What are you gonna do?
50:09
How's that work? This is dumb.
So when he said that I'm
50:13
thinking this guy's
50:16
Adam Curry: because he's saying
the crap now then the other
50:18
stuff is crap mine is well,
50:21
John C Dvorak: yeah, like, well
not like the other stuff. I
50:22
Adam Curry: like the other
stuff. Again, of course you do
50:25
don't have to agree with
everything you see want
50:26
John C Dvorak: to punish Russia?
50:28
Adam Curry: I don't know I want
I just want to be right I don't
50:31
give a crap I don't want to post
who is right. You don't want to
50:35
punish Russia. I would like the
war to end so we can get on and
50:38
move over a different idea.
Let's move over to China. Let's
50:41
get that going. Let's get
something new happening here.
50:43
I'm tired of
50:45
John C Dvorak: clips six,
50:47
Adam Curry: six, did you do
five? We didn't do five. Do you
50:50
want to skip? Oh, no, we
50:51
John C Dvorak: didn't do five
sorry, five.
50:52
Unknown: And on the Saudi
Arabian side. They really not
50:56
been a good ally to the United
States. There historically, the
51:01
United States had a deal, which
is that the Saudis keep oil
51:05
prices stable to keep the
economy stable and in return.
51:09
And the United States provides a
sort of military
51:11
Adam Curry: element home not
entirely true. It was that we
51:14
that the Saudis would sell oil
in dollars to keep it the
51:18
reserve currency of the world,
not just to keep it stable. So I
51:21
don't know why he's omitting
that important fact, blanket
51:24
Unknown: over Saudi Arabia so
that they're protected. And the
51:27
military blanket continues to
exist, but they haven't been
51:30
playing ball when it comes to
oil. When the oil prices went up
51:33
because of Putin. What do they
do? They cut production even
51:36
more. I think the Saudis aren't
playing fair game. And nor is
51:39
the United Arab Emirates, the
United Arab Emirates are hosting
51:43
scores of Russian oligarchs,
numerous Russian oligarch yachts
51:47
are parked in Dubai. You know,
this is another country that's
51:51
supposed to be an ally of the
United States, and they're not
51:54
playing ball. And so there's a
lot of blood pressure that we
51:57
could apply to, to our allies if
we chose to do it. And United
52:02
States is a very powerful
country. And, and I believe
52:05
shooting in all three cases,
52:07
Adam Curry: it's easy now
suggesting that we go over there
52:09
and point a gun at their head,
say, hey, yeah, and by the way,
52:13
how much do you think a military
blanket really costs? I mean,
52:15
that's got to be very expensive
blanket.
52:20
John C Dvorak: That'd be I don't
know. I just find this guy's
52:25
comments about playing ball. And
not playing ball.
52:29
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, they're
not. They're not you know, we
52:33
know that the Saudis supposedly
are selling oil to the Chinese
52:38
in the in their currency.
Working stuff out.
52:43
John C Dvorak: Which of these
things if that's only get
52:45
resolved, but that's all
52:46
Adam Curry: intentional. That's
all to bring in climate change
52:50
or whatever your green hydrogen
Add To me this intentional? Not
52:54
not from the dollar side. But
oh, we just kick people off
52:58
Swift. Screw you. That China, I
think that's what they would do.
53:02
Before anything out China, you
probably would just kick off
53:05
Swift. Just like Russia. That's
how stupid these people are, are
53:10
people.
53:14
John C Dvorak: To his right to
left, let's listen to the
53:16
bullshit clip. One of the
53:17
Unknown: things you've always
pushed for his going after
53:20
Putin's wealth, personally, tell
me how did he get all that
53:24
money? And where is it and what
can we do?
53:27
Well, so Putin doesn't keep any
money in his own name. If he
53:29
did, then then whoever had the
bank documents to show it could
53:33
blackmail him. Oh, so Putin has
to rely on people he trusts, I
53:37
call them oligarchy trustees.
And so when you see an
53:41
oligarchy, who's supposedly
worth 15, or $22 billion on
53:45
paper, you can be pretty well,
sure, that half that money
53:50
belongs to Vladimir Putin. And
so when we sanction the
53:54
oligarchs, when we identify the
biggest and richest oligarchs in
53:57
Russia, and we freeze their
money, we're not just freezing
54:01
their money. We're freezing
Vladimir Putin's money. And so
54:03
one of the reasons that I've
been so forceful on the issue of
54:08
sanctioning Russian oligarchs is
because we're sanctioning
54:11
Vladimir Putin personally. And
so that we've done a good job
54:15
with that and and, you know, he
says, Oh, this doesn't matter.
54:18
Well, he's, he's fuming when
these oligarchs find their
54:21
assets frozen at different banks
around the world
54:23
Adam Curry: that's my boat
54:27
John C Dvorak: Alright, so I
found this to be one of the more
54:29
problematic and music that word
clips Yeah, I
54:32
Adam Curry: agree with you on
that one.
54:33
John C Dvorak: Let's start with
the with the basic premise.
54:37
Putin has no money in his name
because he could be blackmailed
54:41
you ever hear
54:41
Adam Curry: of the Panama
Papers? You can hide that stuff
54:44
easily?
54:45
John C Dvorak: Well, what's the
point of even hiding it? Right?
54:48
Adam Curry: He should have gone
a different tracks except
54:50
Vladimir Putin has all his money
in Bitcoin. That's what he
54:53
should have said that would have
been much funnier, and much less
54:56
John C Dvorak: money but much
more. It would be believable,
54:58
but say he has his money. goes
he has $1,000,000,000.05 billion
55:02
I mean, they make it sound like
he's got hundreds of billions a
55:05
trillion dollars. And he could
be blackmailed somehow give you
55:10
blackmail again with that much
money. I don't think so he's in
55:12
this Bill Gates doesn't hide his
money this way. So why is he
55:15
hiding his money in the first
place? But then the second thing
55:17
that really got me is that if
half of the money that always
55:22
say there's a dozen oligarchs in
particular, just take 12 Off the
55:26
top that are worth anywhere
between 10 and 20, or $30
55:30
billion each, each one of them
to half of their money belongs
55:33
to Putin. Why wouldn't they just
get together and kill him? Well,
55:38
this, thank you. They just shoot
Putin and you got you say you're
55:42
worth $30 trillion, or I'm
sorry, $30 billion. And half of
55:47
that money actually belongs to
Putin. Well, you and a bunch of
55:50
other guys, you shoot Putin, and
now you're that 30 trillion, you
55:54
get the $30 billion to yourself.
I mean, this is nonsense. It
55:59
makes zero sense what he said
what Browder
56:02
Adam Curry: is doing here, and
maybe that's part of his, his
56:06
Let's steal the money Gambit.
He's continuing along the lines
56:10
of this is not about Russia. We
don't hate Russia. No, it's only
56:16
one person one man, it's all of
this the whole problem in the
56:19
world inflation, climate change.
You know, Germany having to rape
56:24
Africa, that everything is the
fault of just one man, one man
56:28
and one man only and that's
Putin. It's Don't be mad at the
56:31
Russians. Be mad at one man,
Putin, that this is what this is
56:36
about. For some odd reason. I
guess we're going to build it up
56:39
and then try to explode a cigar
or whatever, you know, that
56:42
we've tried in the past to kill
him and then it'll be dingdong,
56:45
the witch is dead and everything
will be over. It it's a real
56:50
it's a real build up here.
56:52
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
that's a bad idea.
56:55
Adam Curry: Probably, but look
at who's running the show.
56:58
Victoria Nuland, Jake Solomon
57:00
John C Dvorak: nadie Ryohei
Putin, Putin spirit gets in the
57:04
way of their schemes. So let's
go now here's one that you'll
57:08
enjoy. Just the last question
router. Okay. Yeah. Now, this
57:14
war isn't going to end tomorrow,
like some people that we both
57:19
know, think Da, five years meant
minimum, here we go, oh,
57:24
goodness, you say this
57:26
Unknown: is gonna be a long war,
the way it's going now. Envision
57:30
for me what it'll be like five
years from now, if this thing is
57:34
still going on the way it is?
57:36
Well, this is Putin's Putin. His
his vision, in my mind, is he
57:41
knows he can win the war. But he
also doesn't care about the
57:45
lives lost from his side. He
doesn't really care about the,
57:51
the destruction of his of his
military equipment. In this in
57:56
his mind, what he's thinking is
that we're going to lose
58:00
patience before he loses
patience. He's thinking that in
58:03
these democratic countries where
we have elections all the time,
58:06
where we grow tired, and where
we have a limited bandwidth,
58:12
that eventually we're gonna stop
supporting Ukraine. And that's
58:16
his only way out of this whole
thing is just to outlast us. And
58:20
so well, wait, wait, but he'd be
right.
58:23
That I think that that's my
biggest fear. I mean, if you
58:25
look at the trajectory of the
Ukrainians right now, they're
58:28
really causing just no end of
hardship for Putin and his
58:33
military. And on the current
trajectory, he thought that the
58:36
Ukrainians probably would
eventually succeed over some
58:40
long period of time. And so but
but that we, we've, we've heard
58:46
murmurings in the United States
and in Europe, from far right,
58:50
from all sorts of strange
characters saying no more money
58:52
for Ukraine, no more support for
Ukraine. If those murmurings
58:57
that are, at the moment, very
narrow sections of of the
59:01
political establishment become
bigger sections. Putin may very
59:05
well be right. And that's that's
the fear I have.
59:09
Adam Curry: Oh, goodness, well,
you're right. This is the Brooks
59:12
rule goes into effect. So this
thing has to end quickly. Or
59:21
maybe not. Maybe not because,
you know, this is the result of
59:25
the war
59:26
Unknown: as the ongoing war in
Ukraine continues, the
59:28
ones profiting on defense firms
Lockheed Martin, a major
59:32
American defense company, has
now announced a record breaking
59:35
annual production goal after a
massive success of its High
59:39
Mobility Artillery Rocket
systems
59:41
are high mass systems on the
battleground.
59:44
Adam Curry: Yay, record profits
everybody. Beautiful. Good job,
59:50
everyone.
59:52
John C Dvorak: Yeah, here's my
Ukraine update. This is in prs.
59:57
Let's see. Where is it?
59:58
Adam Curry: I got it. Ukraine
update
1:00:00
John C Dvorak: NPR got
1:00:00
Unknown: Ukrainian troops are
helping civilians flee the
1:00:03
eastern town of Buck mood, which
Russian forces have bombed and
1:00:06
shelled for months. And piers
Joanna kisses reports. military
1:00:10
analysts say Ukrainian soldiers
may be preparing to pull out of
1:00:14
the Besiege city.
1:00:15
Yeah, so far Ukrainian military
officials say there are no plans
1:00:19
to retreat from Bach loot, even
as Russian forces inch ever
1:00:23
closer. NPR recently spoke to
soldiers in northwestern Ukraine
1:00:29
training to deploy to box loot.
A soldier named Vadim, who
1:00:32
declined to reveal his last name
for security reasons, says he's
1:00:36
planning to release members of
his battalion already there,
1:00:39
because he will be there for
several weeks and we will change
1:00:42
we already but British
1:00:43
and American military analysts
say Ukrainian forces have blown
1:00:47
up key bridges and back loot
signaling or retreat.
1:00:50
Adam Curry: Yeah, this this is
trending. The idea that Ukraine
1:00:54
will be pulling out of Buck
moot, and here's my version.
1:00:58
Unknown: Well, there's a lot of
speculation around here about
1:01:00
whether Ukrainian troops are
preparing to withdraw.
1:01:04
Officially, the Ukrainian
position is that they are not
1:01:07
withdrawing. Most soldiers that
we tried to speak to said no
1:01:11
comment when asked about any
plans to withdraw other so we're
1:01:15
willing to speculate a little
bit. And what they said was that
1:01:18
they were not withdrawing so
far, but some of them thought
1:01:21
that it was more likely that
Ukrainian forces would have to
1:01:25
pull out of that route, the not
the main reason being that
1:01:28
although at the moment, it's
still freezing at night. So the
1:01:31
ground remains reasonably hard.
That is set to change in the
1:01:34
next few days, which means it's
going to get much more muddy,
1:01:37
and the ground will be much
softer at the moment that
1:01:40
Ukrainians don't really have a
paved road that they can use to
1:01:44
go in and out of dark moods.
There was a bridge that was
1:01:47
blown up a couple of days ago,
on the road that they were still
1:01:51
using, they've replaced that
with a pontoon bridge. But that
1:01:55
makes things very difficult
logistically for getting in and
1:01:57
out of town at the moment,
they're still also able to use
1:02:01
dirt roads, but that won't be
the case not for wheeled
1:02:04
vehicles anyway, once it gets
more muddy. So that's that's the
1:02:07
main difficulty that they're
facing at the moment.
1:02:11
Adam Curry: What I could not
find in any of the reports is
1:02:13
the location of Bach moot, which
is smack dab in the middle of
1:02:17
the Donbass region. So I pull
out from that to me would mean
1:02:22
there's your there's your new
border. Now that's so dumb boss,
1:02:26
just give that let that rest it
shit anyway. We don't want it.
1:02:31
Let Russia keep that. That could
be that that could be the new
1:02:34
border. And maybe that would be
the way out?
1:02:39
John C Dvorak: Well, if some
parties, I would put our
1:02:44
government in that category of
some parties insisted on
1:02:49
negotiations in ending this
thing, instead of testing
1:02:52
military gear by the boat load
at the expense of our taxpayers.
1:02:59
Yeah, that probably could
happen.
1:03:01
Adam Curry: That seems to be
ending. I've been looking into
1:03:03
why we can't supply Ukraine with
any more ammunition. And I got a
1:03:09
reasonable answer here from
defense one. Their audio? I
1:03:15
guess they are the website that
reports on the defense industry.
1:03:20
John C Dvorak: Yes, it's got a
very good newsletter. I
1:03:22
subscribed Yes, I subscribed
where
1:03:23
Adam Curry: you get all the
numbers, you know 100,000 For
1:03:26
100 100 million for Lockheed 400
million for Raytheon every day,
1:03:29
by the way every single day. US
US and allied production of
1:03:33
artillery ammunition has emerged
as a key problem supplying
1:03:36
Ukraine which burns through
1000s of shells a day fighting
1:03:39
Russia's invasion. Ukraine may
lose the war to Oh, if it
1:03:44
doesn't receive enough supplies.
This is what European Union
1:03:48
foreign policy chief Josep
Borrell said February 20. Now
1:03:52
here's the problem. Obtaining
the raw materials might be a
1:03:55
problem eventually, but not yet.
He said at an event held by the
1:03:58
Center for Strategic and
International Studies. That's a
1:04:01
great group. The US already
maintains large stockpiles of
1:04:05
some of the key raw materials
such as the precursor chemicals
1:04:09
for explosives. But now but how
much of the other raw materials
1:04:14
the US should keep in reserve is
an open question. The issue
1:04:17
really is stockpiling. The
question is how much can you
1:04:20
afford to do like we can't
afford to print more money. The
1:04:23
US has no shortage of raw
materials used for artillery
1:04:26
shell manufacture. But the
production capabilities
1:04:31
potentially taking the stress
off the US could come from
1:04:34
Poland. And unlikely. What seems
to be the problem is steel, that
1:04:41
we just don't have enough steel
to make this happen. And as I
1:04:45
read through these pieces, I
just see a lot of excuses.
1:04:50
People waffling around, does
that mean that we can't get
1:04:54
enough or that phony baloney
steal from China? Or are we
1:04:59
going to x bought the
manufacturer of some of this to
1:05:02
Poland, Australia, other
countries that want to do this
1:05:07
and this, it may
1:05:08
John C Dvorak: have the same
issues, I mean, the steel mostly
1:05:13
is made in China and India
nowadays. And, I mean, we could
1:05:22
do make steel, but we make you
know, the Steel's, that when we
1:05:28
make steel, we make specialty
Steel's, you know, high end
1:05:33
stainless steels and things like
that, that you use for other
1:05:36
purposes, as opposed to
artillery shells. Yeah. I mean,
1:05:43
this, this whole thing may be a
test of our stress test for the
1:05:48
military industrial complex.
And, you know, assuming a proxy
1:05:52
war, let's assume that we were
in this I mean, you can just see
1:05:55
a meeting about this with a guy
with a pointer. Let's assume a
1:06:00
laser pointer where they are we
are fighting the Ukrainians are
1:06:04
our soldiers. And now we have to
supply them, what are the
1:06:08
bottlenecks? What are the kinks?
What are the what's the what,
1:06:11
how
1:06:12
Adam Curry: about this? Supply
and demand artificial shortage?
1:06:16
They just, they just want to
make more money?
1:06:18
John C Dvorak: Well, that that
could be an element and when
1:06:20
that wouldn't be a shocker, no.
But it could be a combination of
1:06:26
both.
1:06:28
Adam Curry: And and you know,
the general word is how we have
1:06:31
to save some for China. We got
it. Even the Secretary of the
1:06:34
Army was saying, Yeah, we
shouldn't be given f 16. So
1:06:37
Ukraine, we got to send them to
Taiwan. We got to get it ready
1:06:40
for China. 2027. We only have a
few years left. There solidly
1:06:47
running the show here. The MICC
companies, they have everybody
1:06:54
by the balls. That mainly the US
taxpayers.
1:06:59
John C Dvorak: So there's you're
talking about Ukraine. I do have
1:07:01
an ask Adam series.
1:07:03
Adam Curry: Okay. This is always
fun. I wasn't
1:07:07
John C Dvorak: three clips.
There's the one with the answer.
1:07:10
And then there's geopolitical,
ignore those. That's number
1:07:12
three. This third clip Hold on.
1:07:17
Adam Curry: One of our favorite
gambits here, ladies and
1:07:19
gentlemen, the ask Adam segment.
All right,
1:07:22
John C Dvorak: okay. This is ask
Adam, Ukraine supply ready, you
1:07:27
get it.
1:07:27
Unknown: In the early months of
the Russian invasion of Ukraine,
1:07:30
Ukraine supply lines were
abruptly cut off. One of the
1:07:33
supplies people could no longer
get
1:07:37
John C Dvorak: is Russia.
1:07:39
Adam Curry: Ooh, one of the
supplies people create again,
1:07:41
but again, this is a good
question. The
1:07:45
Unknown: early months of the
Russian invasion of Ukraine,
1:07:47
Ukraine supply lines were
abruptly cut off one of the
1:07:50
supplies people could no longer
get,
1:07:53
Adam Curry: ah, birth control
pills.
1:08:00
John C Dvorak: I'll give you a
point for that.
1:08:02
Adam Curry: Thank you. To
1:08:05
Unknown: the early months of the
Russian invasion of Ukraine,
1:08:07
Ukraine supply lines were
abruptly cut off one of the
1:08:11
supplies people could no longer
get abortion pills. Were so
1:08:14
Adam Curry: close. Wow, I was
gonna say Viagra at first but
1:08:23
then like, now you're
1:08:24
John C Dvorak: kind of on the
right track. But yeah, but you
1:08:28
know, since this is kind of,
let's make some points here.
1:08:32
abortion pills. NPR.
1:08:34
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, I
thought that they were on the
1:08:35
last show. We we have Ukrainian
men freezing their sperm so that
1:08:39
they can still build a country
of young Ukrainians if they get
1:08:44
killed on the front lines. Then
now the next show four days
1:08:47
later, we hear that abortion
pills with a problem.
1:08:52
John C Dvorak: Just grow. Let's
make it so we've worked. We had
1:08:54
these war reports over the last
15 years now. And again. Yeah,
1:08:58
we have to make sure that we
angle this the right way. So
1:09:01
here's the bonus clip that
follows all this other stuff.
1:09:04
Ask Adam geopolitical three.
1:09:06
Unknown: And the reason the
first reason was
1:09:09
rape cases. Oh, the request that
first sparked this donation of
1:09:14
pills was a plea on behalf of
women raped by Russian soldiers.
1:09:20
Adam Curry: My goodness, I could
have figured that one out. Oh my
1:09:23
goodness. It's all it's always
some bull crap like that, isn't
1:09:26
it? They're raping the women.
They're handing out Viagra so
1:09:32
they can rape all the women. No
man
1:09:39
John C Dvorak: that things are
changing that much.
1:09:43
Adam Curry: That's so lame. I
thought I had something on this.
1:09:48
Oh, no. If we just get off
Ukraine for a minute, I'm kind
1:09:51
of bored of it. There was I'm
good. Yeah, you're good. It was
1:09:55
a similar Gambit being used in
Iran. You know, because we still
1:09:58
have to kick Iran was asked for
whatever, you know, I know it's
1:10:03
subjugate them to our deal or
whatever it is now Iran is
1:10:06
coming back or Iran is trending,
and it's trending with the
1:10:09
poisoning of the school girls.
1:10:12
Unknown: Let's bring you some
breaking news coming out of Iran
1:10:15
where dozens of school girls
across five provinces are in
1:10:19
hospital after a new wave of
suspected poisoning attacks. Of
1:10:23
course, the authorities have
said that it's Iran's enemies
1:10:28
are behind this. But that's
pretty vague in itself. Are they
1:10:31
being any clearer about where
the finger of blame is being
1:10:35
pointed? No,
1:10:36
for right now, there is no clear
answer being provided by any
1:10:41
officials in government. We
heard from the Iranian President
1:10:45
Ibrahim Bracy. During his speech
on Friday, he accused Western
1:10:48
powers of carrying out these
attacks to try and create
1:10:53
instability in Iran and try to
create fear amongst the parents
1:10:58
of these girls of school girls
in general in the country. We
1:11:01
know that the President has
tasked the interior minister to
1:11:05
look into these attacks, and
also trying to figure out what
1:11:08
is happening and to prevent them
from taking place. We understand
1:11:11
that the various levels of
intelligence apparatus is in the
1:11:13
country are also working with
the interior ministry. But I
1:11:17
think it's important to point
out that we don't have any clear
1:11:19
answers. And the officials
haven't provided any evidence
1:11:23
that they've come up with that
would prove Western powers to be
1:11:26
involved or foreign powers to be
involved in these attacks. What
1:11:29
is clear is that they are
increasing in numbers, which is
1:11:32
only making parents more
worried. I've spoken to a number
1:11:36
of parents over the past few
hours, who say they're clearly
1:11:40
worried about their daughters,
and they're not sure if they
1:11:42
will send them back to school in
the coming days.
1:11:45
Adam Curry: All right, what is
missing from this report? Which
1:11:47
she says clearly a lot. What is
missing from the report?
1:11:51
John C Dvorak: Well, to me
what's missing is the day Ronnie
1:11:54
has don't want to girls to go to
school. Pretty much like the
1:11:58
Taliban.
1:11:59
Adam Curry: Well, so that's why
reports here eventually will
1:12:02
starve all that, you know, the
the Taliban or do the regime
1:12:06
which we need to change and Iran
is poisoning the school girls
1:12:09
don't want them to go to school.
But what's missing? Is any
1:12:13
analysis of the poison being
used. Not a single word.
1:12:18
John C Dvorak: Excellent. Not.
1:12:19
Adam Curry: Now, what do I think
it could be? We go back to
1:12:23
Havana syndrome. Because you see
all these videos of these girls
1:12:28
lying on on Cops filling up the
hallways. And by the way, that
1:12:33
could be a total. You know,
they're they're, they're
1:12:36
throwing babies out of
incubators. That's also
1:12:38
possible. I don't know. You
know, that would that would be a
1:12:41
good one. Yeah, it could be
staged. It could be staged. But
1:12:44
I don't see them puking. And I
don't see puke everywhere. I
1:12:48
don't see any of I don't see
them going into convulsions just
1:12:51
lay in there. They're looking
like, oh, I don't feel good.
1:12:55
Could this be a Havana syndrome
weapon? We may be we may be
1:12:59
using that. It's just there's
something screwy about this
1:13:03
story. And the end the lack of
any type of toxic toxicology
1:13:09
reporting is telling I think so
it's either phony. Or it could
1:13:14
be something like one of one of
our Havana syndrome weapons,
1:13:17
which I think we've pretty much
deconstructed the intelligence
1:13:20
agencies are using on each
other.
1:13:26
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't I
doubt if you have anything to do
1:13:29
with this is something else. But
I just don't see why. What's the
1:13:34
point? I mean, I mean, we play
these sorts of games, you know,
1:13:38
but that that's pretty granular.
It seems to me, for us to be
1:13:43
involved. I think if we're going
to zap somebody with these
1:13:46
things, we SAP a couple of high
up guys and have some fun.
1:13:53
Adam Curry: That's why don't we
do that to Putin. We should zap
1:13:56
him again. Now. Now you're
talking Mr. Putin. Zap. Zap. And
1:14:02
you know what the military
industrial complex doesn't want
1:14:04
Putin zapped we can't have that
happening. What will happen to
1:14:09
sales if the war in Ukraine ends
prematurely before positioned
1:14:13
for the war in China or the war
over Taiwan or whatever we're
1:14:16
going to call it
1:14:18
John C Dvorak: the war in Asia
that's been scheduled for 2020
1:14:21
successive ways off 2027 2027.
1:14:25
Adam Curry: That was 26. No is
2020. So that's what the CIA
1:14:28
told. told us was CIA guy.
1:14:31
John C Dvorak: Places seven
Yeah, hold
1:14:32
Adam Curry: on. Birds. Bill
Burns. Yeah, here it is
1:14:36
preparing
1:14:37
Unknown: countries are
increasingly wary of China,
1:14:40
which is continuing its military
buildup. The head of the US
1:14:44
Central Intelligence Agency is
warning of China's intentions in
1:14:48
the Indo Pacific. William Byrne
says President shooting ping
1:14:52
appears to be readying for an
invasion of Taiwan by 2027.
1:14:58
We know as a matter of inter
allegiance that he's instructed
1:15:02
the People's Liberation Army to
be ready by 2027 to conduct a
1:15:07
successful invasion. Now, that
does not mean that he's decided
1:15:11
to conduct an invasion in 2027
or any other year. But it's a
1:15:16
reminder of the seriousness of
his focus and his ambition.
1:15:20
Burns warned she should not be
underestimated. The Chinese
1:15:24
president is currently serving
his third term in office. It
1:15:27
expires in 2027. Burns. She is
closely watching Russia's
1:15:33
invasion of Ukraine, and is
likely unsettled in a little
1:15:37
sobered by the performance of
the Russian military. There you
1:15:41
go.
1:15:42
John C Dvorak: There was yeah,
he needs a little action for a
1:15:45
reelection. Oh, totally. It's an
old classic, classic Gambit. So
1:15:50
there was a when George Bush ran
for reelection, and all of a
1:15:54
sudden we were on Orange Alert.
Remember those things at the
1:15:56
airport?
1:15:58
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. Was it
was it just?
1:16:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was just
before the election, and
1:16:04
everyone condemned him for being
using it as a political ploy to
1:16:08
get reelected. Right. Right.
Guess what? It may, if I may ask
1:16:14
you to guess. Go ahead. I'll
try. He, it was a political
1:16:19
ploy. Yeah,
1:16:24
Adam Curry: so the Treaty of the
sea has been agreed to but not
1:16:33
signed. But this was a big thing
this week at at the United
1:16:37
Nations. And the Treaty of the
sea, pushes out a zone I think
1:16:44
it's 200 miles from which is
like incredible amount 200 miles
1:16:49
from any country's economic,
exclusive economic zone. And
1:16:55
that will be a protected zone
that, you know, you can't fish
1:17:00
in and do all kinds of stuff.
And, you know, it's like, it was
1:17:05
really kind of unclear what the
point was of everyone making
1:17:08
such a big deal out of this.
Although I do recall Hillary
1:17:11
Clinton being all jacked up on
the on the Treaty of the see
1:17:15
years and years ago, actually.
Here 2003 2003, we were playing
1:17:22
this,
1:17:23
Unknown: the 2003 treaty between
Russia and Ukraine,
1:17:26
Adam Curry: our way is 2018
Sorry,
1:17:30
Unknown: designates the current
Strait and this Sea of Azov has
1:17:33
shared territorial waters. But
Moscow has been asserting
1:17:36
greater control over the area
since its annexation of the
1:17:40
Crimean Peninsula in 2014,
particularly since the May this
1:17:44
year, when it opened the new 19
Kilometer bridge linking the
1:17:47
peninsula to Russia and
territory to the east of the
1:17:50
current strait.
1:17:51
Adam Curry: So it extends your
economic zone essentially. So
1:17:56
although they didn't get a full
on text of this resolution, the
1:18:01
United Nations everyone was all
GD and all Jackson all happy
1:18:03
about it. And I'm like, What
could this mean? Why is this so
1:18:07
important? And then I found
this.
1:18:08
Unknown: So let's now talk about
Ireland. There are islands with
1:18:13
an area of less than the Vatican
City sometimes claimed back
1:18:16
three or even more countries,
seemingly insignificant islands
1:18:22
holds strategic and economic
treasure for countries. Every
1:18:27
Island offshore provides an
avenue for military and naval
1:18:30
bases. The 200 nautical miles
area around the island source
1:18:36
falling in a country's exclusive
economic zone, which means that
1:18:40
the particular nation can lay
exclusive claim to all the
1:18:44
resources available in this
area. Now consider this. Our
1:18:49
country recently found that it
has not one, not two, but over
1:18:53
7000 Islands, which were
previously not accounted for.
1:18:59
The country which has hid the
treasure is Japan.
1:19:03
Adam Curry: So Japan could
extend its economic zone with
1:19:06
military hardware ours by an
extra 200 miles. Wouldn't that
1:19:11
be convenient? For them? Yes,
that's the point. Move towards
1:19:16
China. Vietnam,
1:19:20
John C Dvorak: we have
situation. Sorry. What happens
1:19:24
when you have a situation this
used to be a big deal back in
1:19:27
the Nixonian era, where you have
two islands, Clem Moy and Matt
1:19:32
Sue. Yeah, that are across from
each other when owned by
1:19:37
sequence Chinese and was Japan
or was Korean? I don't know what
1:19:40
the two countries are. Yeah. But
they're with the island
1:19:44
themselves, as you say any
random two islands that are
1:19:46
owned by two different countries
are within 200 miles of
1:19:49
Adam Curry: each. Yeah, that's a
problem. No.
1:19:52
John C Dvorak: Well, there has
to be resolved in the treaty. It
1:19:54
has
1:19:54
Adam Curry: to be resolved with
violence. Come on. We're going
1:19:59
from via On some and not for and
just any old treaty that's no
1:20:02
fun. We want some some action
gotta get something going here
1:20:09
John C Dvorak: now Ma'am you
really liked that woman that's
1:20:12
what I get a kick out of it you
follow her? Oh,
1:20:15
Adam Curry: this is not a Paki
Sharma. No, no, no, no, this
1:20:21
John C Dvorak: is this is he
says just like her.
1:20:23
Adam Curry: Hello wi o n. That's
racist of you to say but yes,
1:20:27
the Indian women often sound
alike. Now she's gone to
1:20:31
something called first post or
1:20:33
John C Dvorak: then when she
leaves wi O
1:20:35
Adam Curry: N Yes, she left lb
IO and this is W IO n and so
1:20:38
they just put a replace a sound
alike. Moment. I think I think
1:20:42
they all kind of sound like you
know, I'm just saying no. And
1:20:48
yeah, well, the difference
1:20:50
John C Dvorak: is you'll be
hearing from our Brahm and I
1:20:51
know
1:20:53
Adam Curry: the difference is
this lady leaves long pauses in
1:20:56
between, I actually I left the
first one in but I cut most of
1:20:59
them out because she really
leaves you speaking of such more
1:21:03
response from my rant against
pod speeding that is now the
1:21:08
official term pod fasting was
not working for everybody. Pod
1:21:11
speeding is the act of listening
to a podcast at more than the
1:21:16
normal speed. We have
unscientific evidence, but a lot
1:21:20
of a lot of accounts of
firsthand accounts of people
1:21:25
saying that it has hijacked
their nervous system, they have
1:21:28
no patience with the people
around them people they love
1:21:31
their spouses, their children,
their co workers, that it makes
1:21:35
them jittery and they're just
there are two more pieces that
1:21:38
came in that I would like to
share. Because
1:21:41
John C Dvorak: I want to mention
something here. Yes. I have
1:21:44
gotten some complaining notes
about this about your obsession
1:21:47
with this. Yes, I'm just trying
to save lives that's all and I
1:21:51
I'm backing you on this because
I think it's interesting the
1:21:54
Adam Curry: people who are
complaining There you go they
1:21:56
are already irritated by us even
1:21:59
John C Dvorak: talking about
this irritated Yes. Thanks
1:22:03
Adam Curry: for opening my eyes
to the pod speeding side effects
1:22:05
my pod fasting or pod speeding
use case was this. I tried to
1:22:09
listen to the show live on pod
verse on Thursday and Sunday
1:22:12
evening here in Germany, but my
wife wouldn't let me listen to
1:22:15
the whole show. So the next
morning, I would 1.25 it to re
1:22:19
listen to the bits I heard live
and catch up on missed out
1:22:22
sections. This of course meant
that I'm really fidgety on
1:22:26
Fridays on Mondays and now I
know why and will not do it
1:22:29
again. How about that? And, and
this final one from Muskogee
1:22:37
Earl of the Piedmont. The
discussion about audio playback
1:22:41
speed has given me much to
contemplate about my blind
1:22:44
parents. My dad lost his
eyesight entirely when he was
1:22:47
12. In his adult life, he
listened to 1000s of hours of
1:22:50
audio books, most of which he
checked out for free from the
1:22:53
National Library for the Blind.
At the time, the NLB provided
1:22:57
cassette players with playback
speed control. In later years he
1:23:00
listened to digital audio books
regardless of the format. My dad
1:23:03
routinely listen to audiobooks
and eventually podcasts on
1:23:06
playback much greater than 1x
speed. My dad died in 2019 he
1:23:11
was diagnosed with frontal
temporal lobe dementia. Just
1:23:15
days Brian prior to his death,
he struggled often with anxiety
1:23:18
and depression in his later
years. Now my mom has been blind
1:23:22
since birth, she was a medical
transcriptionist for nearly 50
1:23:26
years. For decades, her words
per minute was 120 Plus, and she
1:23:30
often listened to dictation at
speeds much greater than 1x. For
1:23:34
the last two years, my siblings
and I have observed what we fear
1:23:38
are signs of decline in our
cognitive ability. Your point
1:23:42
about resonance makes me wonder
if long term exposure to
1:23:45
unnatural resonance can be a
factor in cognitive decline.
1:23:50
I've consumed a lot of podcasts
and audiobooks in recent years.
1:23:53
Other producers have noted
playback speed was based on the
1:23:56
presenters or narrators and I
agree some have slow cadence I
1:24:00
never listened to NA. at speeds
greater than 1.0 normal rate is
1:24:05
perfect in fact off putting me
to higher playback speeds. But I
1:24:10
think that maybe we've struck
something here about depression
1:24:14
and anxiety. We could be saving
lives with this John
1:24:21
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm gonna
give it to you you're the one
1:24:23
doing it. But I'm a I'm
interested in this this is
1:24:27
fascinating. We need to think
about it probably there's gotta
1:24:31
be something to it because if
you start listening to
1:24:33
everything at 1.5 or I don't
know could you listen to it to
1:24:37
all some people do Sure. I think
you could if you had the right
1:24:40
pitch kind of thing it was
accounting for pitch so just
1:24:43
know
1:24:43
Adam Curry: that works and of
the pitch control is built into
1:24:46
these systems. You know, it's
like it rarely changes the
1:24:48
pitch. They
1:24:49
John C Dvorak: first they chop
outside. Well, you sound normal,
1:24:51
but you're talking real fast.
You start really fast like this
1:24:53
little bit of detail. Yeah, but
understand by clear,
1:24:57
Adam Curry: the problem is not
listening to the podcast, the
1:25:00
problem is the rest of the
world. That's the problem. You
1:25:03
can get depressed if anyone's
slow and not moving at your
1:25:06
speed. And you do a drive.
You're not anxious. Yes, yes.
1:25:12
John C Dvorak: You should
probably be listening to podcast
1:25:14
at point eight. No. Now I did
get some notes from people
1:25:19
saying they listen to half speed
now. Like a couple of drunk.
1:25:24
Adam Curry: People are just
making fun of us by saying no
1:25:26
one listens at a lower speed. I
don't even know. I don't even
1:25:28
know why they put lower speed in
it. Except for Ben's point, Ben
1:25:32
Shapiro, maybe maybe?
1:25:35
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Shapiro.
There's a couple other people.
1:25:37
Yeah.
1:25:37
Adam Curry: Anyway, I'm only
doing this. I've given up on my
1:25:42
art or art of creating beautiful
programming, given up on that.
1:25:47
Oh, by the way, we've been
accused of being wrong. left at
1:25:52
least 20 times. You want to go
through this? Because he has
1:25:56
this guy gives three examples.
1:25:58
John C Dvorak: Here we have a
mayor culpa, we have to
1:26:00
apologize for being
1:26:01
Adam Curry: mayor, maybe maybe
not. This is from black metal
1:26:04
cowboy. He says over the last
several weeks of episodes. I've
1:26:07
never heard from this guy
before. I've noticed instances
1:26:09
in which you want to be
1:26:10
John C Dvorak: getting weird
notes from people that don't
1:26:13
show up in the database.
1:26:15
Adam Curry: Exactly. I've noted
instances in which you and John
1:26:19
have made factually incorrect
claims. I do not believe you're
1:26:22
doing so purposely to mislead
your producers. You just don't
1:26:25
know you're wrong. Okay, the
danger comes the Danger Danger.
1:26:32
Your producers hold you in such
high value. They believe what
1:26:35
you speak is factually correct
by default. This confirmation
1:26:38
bias leads them to blindly
appeal to your authority and
1:26:41
propagate all of what you have
said is factual. Below, I have
1:26:45
included three of the
approximately 20 instances I've
1:26:47
noted over the last 15 episodes.
I am not an expert in any of
1:26:51
these subjects as a mechanical
engineer with over 20 years of
1:26:54
experience in the aerospace and
defense industry, whose role is
1:26:57
currently evaluating and
investigating design failures,
1:26:59
but critical thinking research
is so critical thinking and
1:27:01
research regardless of the
subject. Okay, so he feels it is
1:27:05
his duty to apply the same
standards that have no agenda
1:27:08
show.
1:27:08
John C Dvorak: I'm glad to get
the list of all 20 items. So
1:27:10
Adam Curry: he's approximately
20 He only has three. And he
1:27:14
starts off John offers his
belief that vasectomy has
1:27:18
changed the appearance and
mannerisms of men, likening them
1:27:22
to quote old lesbians he has he
further claims this change is so
1:27:28
profound he can pick out men
with vasectomy is from a crowd.
1:27:32
He also claimed vasectomy
reversals are almost never
1:27:34
successful. This claim is
incorrect. Hold on
1:27:38
John C Dvorak: now that claims
it was what he's doing here.
1:27:41
This is dissected, does approach
Yes, is to bring up all my
1:27:46
opinions, which had been
verified by more than a few
1:27:49
people that and in fact, it
comes from the books that were
1:27:52
written about this in the mid
20s 1920s. Were vasectomies were
1:27:57
considered considered a use a
way of making yourself look more
1:28:01
useful. And and he's in he's
taken that and then conflated it
1:28:08
with the with what he thinks is
just a wrong opinion that that
1:28:12
vasectomies can't be reversed.
I'm
1:28:14
Adam Curry: going to help you on
this. Let's let's read on.
1:28:17
Roughly half a million men
undergo vasectomy in the US each
1:28:21
year would have been nice if he
included a source to this, by
1:28:23
John C Dvorak: the way, stop.
I'm sorry to pull it care. But
1:28:27
go ahead. Go ahead. The guy
writing in has had a vasectomy.
1:28:33
Adam Curry: Absolutely. That's
why it's number one, no doubt
1:28:36
about it. But he I think he
reads Wikipedia. Anyway, roughly
1:28:41
half a million men undergo
vasectomies in the US each year
1:28:44
roughly 6% will decide to
undergo a reversal. According to
1:28:48
Stanford Medicine, no link 90%
of those procedures are
1:28:52
effective. Even if one were to
debate the definition of
1:28:56
effective it is still wait, let
me you'll love this. It is still
1:29:00
a far cry from John's quote.
Almost never. Okay, since you
1:29:05
put that in quotes, black metal
cowboy. We do have a transcript
1:29:09
tool which Thank you very much
Steven B. Transcript tool where
1:29:13
I can search our transcripts
going back about three years and
1:29:17
here is exactly what John said
what you quoted. You quoted him
1:29:20
as saying almost never effective
you know so now he's got to
1:29:26
reverse this. It which rarely
works well you know, he doesn't
1:29:31
he doesn't he rarely works is
the quote my friend not almost
1:29:34
never rarely works.
1:29:36
John C Dvorak: Yeah. If you're
gonna be this kind of picky guy.
1:29:38
Exactly.
1:29:40
Adam Curry: By the way, I'm
going to use this against you
1:29:41
all the time too, because it's
really fast. Record regarding
1:29:44
vasectomy is changing. You won't
1:29:45
John C Dvorak: get very far.
1:29:50
Adam Curry: Hold on, is Did you
also say old lesbians? I don't
1:29:54
know if you said old lesbians.
No, you think so. You didn't say
1:29:57
old lesbians. You did not Now
well I know Hold on, hold on,
1:30:03
hold on the exact opposite is
true. Listen to this
1:30:07
John C Dvorak: noticing these
guys started to have a youthful
1:30:10
look. as they got older they
started looking like young
1:30:15
lesbians.
1:30:16
Adam Curry: Lesbians not all
right, okay for you. For me,
1:30:21
study after study, most of which
are infuriatingly paywalled has
1:30:25
shown there is no charge in
hormone, no change in hormone
1:30:28
levels of men who undergo
vasectomies. There are studies
1:30:31
that show emotional changes
resulting from vasectomy ie
1:30:34
feeling less masculine, but
those emotions are purely
1:30:36
psychological and revert over
time. Studies aside by what
1:30:41
mechanic would have mechanics
would have said to me invoke
1:30:44
these changes, John speaks up
well, you've got everything
1:30:46
wrong so far. All of a second he
does is prevent prevent storm
1:30:50
sperm from entering the semen.
The testes still produce the
1:30:54
same hormones and release them.
This guy is snipped. I agree
1:30:58
with you there. So your response
other than he got all of your
1:31:04
quotes wrong,
1:31:06
John C Dvorak: besides getting
all my quotes wrong, including
1:31:08
young lesbians. Okay, I don't
care. I'm just telling you what
1:31:15
I think I and I, and I have been
able to spot these other people
1:31:18
have to exactly and it's and
it's been documented in a number
1:31:22
of books in the in the 20s when
this was a very popular
1:31:24
procedure.
1:31:25
Adam Curry: And it was done
specifically to give people a
1:31:27
young look correct?
1:31:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was,
yeah, it had specifically to
1:31:32
give people a min or a youthful
appearance.
1:31:36
Adam Curry: The second one is
about me, Adam pointelle. I love
1:31:41
doing this. Adam points out
earthquakes are no longer
1:31:44
measured using the Richter scale
and imply something nefarious is
1:31:47
at foot, or at least this is
incompetence in reporting of
1:31:51
earthquakes. I am not a
seismologist, but the answer was
1:31:54
easy to find. In fact, Wikipedia
has a well known, highly
1:31:59
detailed overview on the
subject. And then he goes into
1:32:04
the change that was made to the
Richter scale. And all I said,
1:32:08
All I said was they used the
momentum scale. And that was
1:32:12
changed to make the numbers much
bigger than the Richter scale,
1:32:16
which is used in mainstream
media to make things sound often
1:32:20
much worse than they are. When
it comes to nefarious things
1:32:24
being at foot that is regarding
the earthquake machine. As the
1:32:29
Secretary of Defense in 1987,
I'm going to say Richard Cohen
1:32:34
specifically said we and other
countries have earthquake
1:32:39
technology to evoke earthquakes.
So there's no debunking on that.
1:32:45
But maybe in this one particular
case, we didn't. I didn't delve
1:32:49
into the moment, the momentum
scale versus the Richter scale,
1:32:55
so you should probably listen a
little bit more before you jump.
1:32:59
Now the third one is my
favorite. And this is not even
1:33:02
you it's about your wife, which
is which is just gets me mad.
1:33:06
Yeah, he blames you, but it's
from me. John claims eggs should
1:33:13
never be salted before cooking,
because the salt makes them
1:33:17
tough. Is that? Is that what you
said? It makes them tough.
1:33:21
John C Dvorak: This is Mimi's
thing. I've never I mean, I've
1:33:23
said it by I'm always referring
to her. She's the AIG expert.
1:33:26
She wrote a 700 page book too
many eggs.com It's available for
1:33:30
free on a PDF, just sign up for
it. And she is the expert on
1:33:35
Asus. She said this and other
people have written down since I
1:33:39
mentioned it on the show. That
then they all said the same
1:33:43
thing that eggs taste better
this way.
1:33:44
Adam Curry: Now he says they're
tough. They are tough. Did you
1:33:49
John C Dvorak: actually that's
what Mimi said Mimi said. It
1:33:51
makes them tough. And there are
other I think Gordon Ramsay also
1:33:55
subscribes to this thesis.
1:33:57
Adam Curry: This belief is found
in many cookbooks and propagated
1:34:00
by many famous chefs. In
addition to making them talk
1:34:03
they say salting eggs before
cooking will turn them gay I
1:34:06
mean gray. Others make a
contradictory claim that salt
1:34:10
will make them turn watery.
However, numerous recent
1:34:13
experiments no link provided
have shown only incorrect salt
1:34:17
does not impact color or
texture. Regardless of how far
1:34:20
ahead of cooking salt was added.
Added. cooking method and
1:34:23
temperature are the drivers of
texture and color. In fact,
1:34:27
John's claim doesn't even match
with how the chemistry works.
1:34:30
The egg proteins are mostly
negatively charged which keeps
1:34:33
them apart until high heat is
applied. The salt dissolves into
1:34:37
positive and negative ions which
neutralize the charge of the
1:34:40
proteins, allowing them to
coagulate at lower temperature
1:34:43
producing a more tender
scrambled egg. Dude this is the
1:34:49
kind of stuff with Ken just
drives me nuts. I love it drives
1:34:54
me nuts.
1:34:55
John C Dvorak: I wish this guy
would take it that egg
1:34:57
commentary. Yeah, that was links
Yes, and then help them posted
1:35:01
on the AIG blog that's floating
around somewhere that egg blog
1:35:05
nice a blog, and it's posted.
It'd be great. We use it.
1:35:09
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. Now
that we've been proven to be a
1:35:15
factually, I'd
1:35:16
John C Dvorak: like to know what
the other 17 items are.
1:35:20
Adam Curry: If they're all of
this severity, people should
1:35:22
still slip they suck these. By
the way, let
1:35:25
John C Dvorak: me just say this.
This is
1:35:28
Adam Curry: the black metal
cowboy, a black
1:35:30
John C Dvorak: male cowboy you
suck. These IDs is not even
1:35:34
close to being something worth
complaining about.
1:35:36
Adam Curry: I agree. I agree. If
you really want to complain
1:35:40
about something, do it Russell
branded. Did you see Oh,
1:35:43
Russell? Russell Brand. Let's
just set and I want to I want to
1:35:47
play this clip. Because it's the
1:35:49
John C Dvorak: one with Heilmann
Yes. Oh, Heilmann couldn't get a
1:35:53
word in Edge. Hi, almonds a
doofus. Now. Russell Russell
1:35:57
Brand is really sharp.
1:36:00
Adam Curry: You know? heileman?
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
1:36:04
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know
Heilmann where you
1:36:05
Adam Curry: would you say in the
past, you might even have
1:36:07
considered each other
acquaintances or friends?
1:36:09
John C Dvorak: I would say
acquaintances for sure. I never
1:36:12
been there was the rule is and
anyone out there was an old
1:36:16
friend acquaintance. Whatever.
Nobody's your friend unless
1:36:21
you've been to their house for
lunch or dinner, or they've been
1:36:25
to your house for lunch or
dinner.
1:36:27
Adam Curry: Now, I would say
I've been to your house once for
1:36:30
dinner. I don't think we're
friends.
1:36:35
John C Dvorak: No, no. Okay.
It's not an exclusive thing. I'm
1:36:39
saying. If somebody if you say
some as your friend, and they
1:36:42
you don't have that qualifier in
their house, or they've been to
1:36:45
your house for lunch or dinner,
then they are definitely not
1:36:47
your friend. Yes. I've been to
plenty of people's houses for
1:36:51
lunch and dinner or whatever.
And I don't consider them my
1:36:54
friends or their acquaintances
or be somebody I might not even
1:36:57
like them. Yeah, exactly. That's
different. Exactly.
1:37:00
Adam Curry: So John Holman who I
think he's, he does mainly
1:37:05
reports. You know, he does
opinion I think for morning,
1:37:08
Joe. Certainly. He's a part of
the Morning Joe team, although I
1:37:12
think a lot of times not he's on
remote. He's not always in the
1:37:15
studio. And but he also think
appears on other shows. But he's
1:37:23
always very opinionated. And
he's part of and this is the
1:37:26
context of what happened here.
It was it was fantastic segment.
1:37:30
The context is that MSNBC, CNN,
me, but also, I mean, anything
1:37:35
every news organization, cable
network or otherwise, has been
1:37:40
trying to discredit FoxNews by
saying they're such liars. They
1:37:46
didn't even believe the January
6, election stolen conspiracy.
1:37:52
Would they? They said they did
on the on, on Fox News. But
1:37:56
privately they all said, Oh,
they don't believe it. And this
1:37:58
has just been ongoing when he'd
been debunking for a while.
1:38:02
Yeah. Which is just, it's
annoying. When you're making
1:38:06
each other the news story is
what you're doing. And you're
1:38:08
you're discrediting the entire
news business. And and it took
1:38:12
Russell Brand and I appreciate
this and part of it is because
1:38:16
of his accent, the use the words
he uses his incredible command
1:38:21
of language, and something that
that I didn't like, but I think
1:38:26
it's effective. He touches
Heilmann all the time. Graduates
1:38:31
John C Dvorak: not sure what
technique of persuasion that is,
1:38:35
it's dangerous
1:38:36
Adam Curry: because I would say
get your hands off of me you lie
1:38:38
me, bitch.
1:38:41
John C Dvorak: That's what how
am I said he would know that in
1:38:42
advance.
1:38:43
Adam Curry: Oh, maybe. Okay,
because he was also calling him
1:38:46
Darling. Darling and he would
touch his arm which like that's
1:38:49
really aggressive.
1:38:51
John C Dvorak: He was he was
sitting for this is to back this
1:38:56
up. This is from the Bill Maher
show just this last Friday.
1:38:58
Yeah. And and they had Russell
Brand on him Russell Brand took
1:39:03
over the show. I mean, he's one
of those guys. You'd be hard to
1:39:06
work with. Because he's a he's a
mic hog, but he's really good at
1:39:10
it. And he's very good at it.
Yeah. And so he's a he'd be
1:39:17
tough. He'd be one of those guys
you don't want to work with no
1:39:20
because he's gonna dominate me
he his ability to handle Seymour
1:39:26
Hersh. There was was one
indicator, very good, very rare.
1:39:30
He is a natural at this. And I
have to say he's fine. He's
1:39:36
feeling his oats. And when he
sees somebody that's weak and
1:39:40
Heilmann is not Johann is a
writer who doesn't you know, he
1:39:44
doesn't have the kind of
broadcasting chops or
1:39:47
performance chops that a guy
like Russell Brand has. Yeah.
1:39:51
And I and Russell Brand may
actually be boosted on something
1:39:54
too, for all I know, although I
don't see I don't know. I think
1:39:58
he's clean. I mean, he probably
is
1:40:00
Adam Curry: He was on heroin for
a while there. He's clean. But
1:40:02
he
1:40:02
John C Dvorak: is. He sees a
weak guy. And he's just
1:40:07
steamrolls him. Steve
steamrolled him.
1:40:12
Adam Curry: He did. It's a three
minute clip, but it's well worth
1:40:15
it. Sean,
1:40:15
Unknown: I've not known you
long, but I love you already.
1:40:17
But I have to say that it's
1:40:19
Adam Curry: actually I think
he's a master NLP guy or
1:40:22
persuader, saying stuff like
that. That right off the bat. I
1:40:25
don't know who you are by love
you already. These are very
1:40:29
powerful, very powerful things
he's doing. He's bright brand
1:40:32
has chops in this, John,
1:40:33
Unknown: I've not known you
long, but I love you already.
1:40:35
But I have to say that it's,
it's disingenuous to claim that
1:40:39
the biases that are exhibited on
Fox News are any different from
1:40:42
the biases exhibited on MSNBC,
it's difficult to suggest that
1:40:46
these corporations operate as
anything other than mouthpieces
1:40:50
for their affiliate owners in
Black Rock and Vanguard, unless
1:40:54
we start to embrace and then
also make like just spiritually
1:40:58
if I may use that word in your
great country. We have to take
1:41:02
responsibility for our own
perspective. I've been on that
1:41:06
MSNBC May it was propagandists
not crackery. It was absurd the
1:41:12
way they carried on and it was
it wasn't the morning there was
1:41:16
no one called Joe then
concentrate. They didn't
1:41:19
understand the basic tenets of
June journalism. No one was
1:41:22
willing to stick up for genuine
American here
1:41:25
Adam Curry: and listen to the
audience. By the way, the
1:41:27
audience who you would presume
be mostly leftists at the Bill
1:41:31
Maher show they are up there
applauding for a lot of things
1:41:34
that if any other right of
center person said would be
1:41:38
Whoa.
1:41:41
Unknown: Like Edward Snowden, no
one was willing to talk about
1:41:43
Julian Assange and what He
suffered, trying to bring real
1:41:46
journalism to the American
people. Sit within the castle of
1:41:53
MSNBC, throwing rocks at Fox
News is ludicrous. Make MSNBC
1:41:59
MSNBC
1:42:03
Adam Curry: that landed that
landed that Joe
1:42:06
John C Dvorak: the moment one
more thing you should note,
1:42:08
because we don't have visuals
here. Heilmann is trying as hard
1:42:13
as he can not to cry off him
1:42:15
Adam Curry: and not to cry.
Yeah, and he but he's also he's
1:42:19
leaning way back. He's like, Oh,
and he's trying to get a word in
1:42:23
edgewise. You can't do that with
a guy like brand. You got to
1:42:26
just sit there and let him
finish but he kept
1:42:29
John C Dvorak: you have to
prepare a zinger at the end.
1:42:31
Yeah, it's the only way you can
do
1:42:33
Adam Curry: what you do calm and
collected Exactly. The moment
1:42:42
Russell Russell darling, see,
that's the mistake. That's a
1:42:46
mistake when Heilmann goes
Russell darling he's trying to
1:42:48
eat trying to
1:42:49
John C Dvorak: mirror he's
trying to play Russell's game
1:42:52
Bad Idea Heilemann get back to
raw always a bad idea to do that
1:42:56
get
1:42:56
Adam Curry: back to writing bro
this is not your not your
1:42:58
territory. It's not your
battlefield.
1:43:01
Unknown: Darling the moment that
you give me a specific example
1:43:05
an actual
1:43:09
Adam Curry: brand was prepared
for this you could tell me just
1:43:14
Unknown: tell you what. I'd like
to hear a specific example
1:43:17
approval specific example of an
MSNBC correspondent or anchor
1:43:20
being on television saying
something they knew was false
1:43:23
and we're saying behind the
scenes to people this is I'm not
1:43:26
to go out and we know that we
know that the election wasn't
1:43:29
stolen if he were cool but I
will go on but I will go I will
1:43:33
go out on television and say the
opposite. I will lie wait Give
1:43:38
just give me up give me this
specific example example All
1:43:42
right, I'm with you.
1:43:43
Adam Curry: I think it's a false
equivalency and this Bill Maher
1:43:46
who I don't know why he said
well I think it's a false
1:43:49
equivalency so what he's what
Bill Maher is saying is that
1:43:52
MSNBC never does that they never
and the stuff about Julian
1:43:57
Assange well of course that's
not what Russell Brand meant.
1:44:00
That wasn't the equivalency he's
saying that MSNBC also has
1:44:04
propaganda that's that's what he
said and Bill Maher's like what
1:44:09
he should have stayed out of it.
That made I agree that made him
1:44:12
angry. This was a moment to sit
back and just enjoy the ratings
1:44:15
Unknown: but I will go on but I
will I will go out on television
1:44:18
and say the opposite. I will lie
my answer would give just give
1:44:22
me up give me this specific
example I'm just saying basic
1:44:25
example All right, I'm with you.
I think it's a false equivalency
1:44:29
right all about bias. It's a
possibility because you don't
1:44:34
actually know anything about any
of these organizations. You're
1:44:37
talking about even MSNBC once
Big fucking deal my
1:44:39
darling it was
1:44:41
Adam Curry: who now he shows
he's mad by saying big fucking
1:44:44
deal. Hyman sinking, he's
1:44:46
John C Dvorak: drowning. Also
talking faster than he normally
1:44:49
does. He's
1:44:49
Adam Curry: drowning. He's
drowning
1:44:50
Unknown: about bias. It's a
possibility because you don't
1:44:52
actually know anything about any
of these organizations you're
1:44:54
talking about even on MSNBC once
Big fucking deal, my
1:44:57
darling it was more than
1:44:59
that. You may have a single
single
1:45:03
example. You want an examples,
the ludicrous, outrageous
1:45:07
criticisms of Joe Rogan around
ivermectin, deliberately
1:45:12
referring to his a hot medicine
with a new perspective medicine.
1:45:17
Model turning on the TV saying
if you take this vaccine, you're
1:45:21
not going to get it when
clinically trolled.
1:45:24
Adam Curry: What does he mean by
non responsive? What does that
1:45:26
what are you trying to say
there? He says non responsive
1:45:31
the
1:45:31
John C Dvorak: Heilmann was
saying non response. Yeah,
1:45:33
Adam Curry: what did you What
are you trying to say?
1:45:38
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Because it doesn't make any
1:45:39
sense. He's very responsive.
1:45:42
Adam Curry: Yeah, I just don't
understand exactly what he's
1:45:44
saying. I think he was
1:45:45
John C Dvorak: shorted out by
then. All right,
1:45:47
Unknown: turning on the TV
saying is you take this vaccine,
1:45:49
you're not gonna get it when
clinical trials are sponsored.
1:45:53
You have to listen. Do you think
you can improve America?
1:45:57
Determined validly condemning
Fox News without acknowledging
1:46:01
that you're participating in the
same game? Did you know just
1:46:04
listen to Bernie Sanders,
somebody plainly legitimately
1:46:08
believes in his country and
believes it's possible to change
1:46:11
but he's bound by corruption is
bound by the lobbying system.
1:46:16
clear to you, Bill. That's one
of the great pundits and experts
1:46:20
and comic voices for systemic
change is required. Money has to
1:46:24
be taken out of politics. We
need new political systems that
1:46:28
genuinely represent ordinary
Americans so that we can
1:46:31
overcome cultural differences
and bickering about Mitch
1:46:35
propagandists network is the
worst is not going to save a
1:46:39
single American life not improve
the life of a single American
1:46:42
trial not going to improve
America's standing in the world.
1:46:45
And the world needs a strong
America. I'll tell you that.
1:46:52
Adam Curry: Oh, man, oh, props.
The Russell Brand. That was
1:46:55
dynamite. Was pretty really,
really good. Really good. I
1:47:00
really enjoyed that. Phenomenal.
Okay, let's do it. He's
1:47:09
John C Dvorak: one of those
guys. I've run into these guys.
1:47:12
In you know, public speaking
arenas or brands, Russell Brand.
1:47:18
No into these guys, this type of
person. Yeah. So I mean, a type
1:47:21
of person who can you can't beat
in an argument or a situation
1:47:27
where there's in a debate
situation. And though just your
1:47:32
your, you can't do it. And I
think Shapiro is kind of like
1:47:39
that in a debate. Oh, without a
doubt without it. And so what
1:47:43
you do is you never get into
this with them, ever.
1:47:49
Adam Curry: And the funny thing
is that this this debate that
1:47:52
they're having is not the actual
debate, this whole noise and
1:47:56
that's kind of too bad is the
Dominion voting machines,
1:48:00
Dominion systems, they are suing
Fox News for defamation. And
1:48:04
this is all coming out of
discovery, you know, the text
1:48:07
messages, but what it's
obfuscating is the fact that
1:48:09
Dominions themselves that our
systems are shipped. You can get
1:48:14
wrong results. It's easy to hack
into, you know, they're no good.
1:48:18
That's also in the discovery.
All of this is obvious getting
1:48:21
that that's that's the sad part
of it. That's the sad part. But
1:48:26
anyway, it was fun
entertainment. We like bread and
1:48:30
games. That's That's who we are
as a people. Before we take a
1:48:33
break, I'd like to delve into
CPAC I think you have some
1:48:36
clips. I'll set you up. tonight.
I'll just set you up on
1:48:41
Unknown: on. Tonight the race to
2024 intensifying as former
1:48:45
President Trump makes his case
for the Republican presidential
1:48:48
nomination. We're going
1:48:50
to complete the mission we're
going to see this battle through
1:48:53
to ultimate victory.
1:48:55
Trump taking center stage at
CPAC. The Conservative Political
1:48:59
Action Conference a once must
attend event for GOP stars now
1:49:03
dominated by his supporters.
1:49:08
We believe in it is very Trump
centered around here.
1:49:12
It's not Trump 2024 Is Trump
forever.
1:49:14
For more South Carolina governor
turn candidate Nikki Haley
1:49:17
heckled by the crowd. Other
possible GOP hopefuls like
1:49:24
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis,
and former Vice President Mike
1:49:27
Pence skipping CPAC,
highlighting the divide over the
1:49:31
party's future.
1:49:32
We are over here tearing each
other apart. And
1:49:34
tonight as President Biden moles
his reelection bid, he now faces
1:49:38
a Democratic challenger. Self
Help author Marianne Williamson
1:49:42
launching another long shot
campaign speaking exclusively to
1:49:46
ABCs Jonathan Karl,
1:49:48
the Democratic Party needs to be
a conduit for the healing of
1:49:51
this country. But first the
Democratic Party needs to look
1:49:54
in the mirror and heal itself.
1:49:56
Adam Curry: Nope, she wasn't at
CPAC why she why why did Bring
1:50:00
her in
1:50:01
John C Dvorak: just a throwaway.
What what channel was this? ABC?
1:50:06
I have no idea. We're just
entertainment value. I have no
1:50:10
idea ABC Disney i Oh, no. I have
mine reports from NPR in there
1:50:15
not that much different. They're
not dissimilar. But they do have
1:50:19
a little more details about one
thing or another, even though
1:50:21
they didn't they produced this
before the Trump speech which we
1:50:25
can talk about CPAC. One
1:50:26
Unknown: CPAC is often let me
put it this way, A Chorus Line
1:50:30
for Republican candidates where,
you know, they audition before
1:50:34
politically active young
conservatives who might want to
1:50:37
work in their political
campaigns. As that been the case
1:50:41
this year, though, that's a
1:50:42
really good way to put it
because it generally is
1:50:44
something of a chorus line of
Republicans who are kind of
1:50:47
coming in trying to play to the
sort of 1000s of conservatives,
1:50:50
usually young activists who get
together they're part of the
1:50:54
conservative movement. Really a
weathervane for the conservative
1:50:57
movement is what CPAC winds up
being. But this time around,
1:51:00
really not many of those
potential presidential
1:51:02
candidates showed up. We did
hear from a couple of them, and
1:51:05
Nikki Haley was one She's the
former South Carolina governor
1:51:08
who worked as UN ambassador in
the Trump administration. Here's
1:51:11
what some of what she had to say
she really tried to appeal to
1:51:14
the right wing of the party.
1:51:15
wokeness is a virus more
dangerous than any pandemic
1:51:19
hands down. I have traveled the
world and back, and I've seen
1:51:24
what's out there. America isn't
perfect, but the principles at
1:51:29
the heart of America aren't
perfect. And take it from me.
1:51:33
The first minority female
governor in history, America is
1:51:38
not a racist country.
1:51:42
You know, there's a lot in that,
obviously. And you can tell
1:51:44
there she's kind of trying to
walk this line. You know, she's
1:51:47
throwing red meat to the base
hoping to win them over. But
1:51:50
Donald Trump really has a real
stronghold on a lot of that
1:51:53
base. She really needs to win
over white collar Republicans,
1:51:56
who are the ones who are mostly
saying that they want an
1:51:59
alternative to Trump.
1:52:01
Adam Curry: I find Nikki Haley
an interesting entrant into this
1:52:04
because she's literally using
DeSantis his line DeSantis is
1:52:09
the anti woke guy. That's all he
talks about. He's the anti woke
1:52:15
Why would she jump and by the
way, her voice. I keep how great
1:52:20
it really does head Zippy thinks
it sucks. No, it's just
1:52:25
John C Dvorak: great. Yeah, you.
She hasn't gotten any charisma.
1:52:29
Adam Curry: Zero charisma. She
Riker
1:52:32
John C Dvorak: is milk writing
voice. Not particularly
1:52:35
attractive. I'm sure she has to
some people, but not
1:52:39
particularly attractive. She's
not like you know, somebody you
1:52:41
want to really look at. And to
be honest about it. And know
1:52:47
nothing. She's kind of a hawk.
She's a little bit of a neocon.
1:52:53
Yeah. And I don't ever thought
she was that supportive of Trump
1:52:57
when she was when she had been
hired by him. No,
1:53:00
Adam Curry: no, she wasn't.
Well, she was running for you
1:53:03
know, we've been hearing of her
running for a long time.
1:53:05
John C Dvorak: She thinks that
she's got the chops to run for
1:53:08
president. She she thinks that
if somebody wants to have her
1:53:10
breasts, she's not going to get
she's like Kamala Harris.
1:53:12
Adam Curry: How about this?
Could she be a trial balloon for
1:53:17
DeSantis? Trying rice
presidency? No, no, no, no. No
1:53:22
trial because DeSantis didn't
speak with us a trial balloon to
1:53:26
see what sticks what works so
that DeSantis can hone his
1:53:30
message.
1:53:32
John C Dvorak: Just a thought
No. Synthesis so hesitant
1:53:35
shoulders above her head? I
don't think he has anything to
1:53:38
do with it. All right. Let's go
to part two.
1:53:42
Unknown: Mike Pompeo, former
Secretary of State also spoke he
1:53:46
has been going through all the
expected motions of someone
1:53:49
who's considering becoming a
candidate. Did he try to
1:53:52
distance himself at all from
Donald Trump?
1:53:54
Yeah. And I was really listening
to see what kind of line he was
1:53:57
going to draw because it hasn't
been clear how he's going to
1:54:00
distinguish himself. But he did
try to make something of an
1:54:03
electability argument. Let's
take a listen to that.
1:54:05
We lost three elections in a
row, and the popular vote and
1:54:08
seven of the last eight. There
are many reasons for this. But
1:54:11
one of them is I think they've
lost trust in the conservative
1:54:15
ideas. And this is the task
that's in front of us. And I am
1:54:18
convinced we can do it. Because
we're right.
1:54:21
You know, Pompeo really took
what was kind of an oblique shot
1:54:24
at Trump, but kind of veiled.
Really, you know, he talked
1:54:27
about himself having been a
Sunday school teacher and that
1:54:30
the country needs that kind of
character. But his speech wasn't
1:54:33
exactly a barnburner. Neither
was Nikki Haley's, really, and
1:54:37
they spoke both in front of kind
of half empty audiences and
1:54:40
really got just warm receptions
at best
1:54:42
to bedico. You've covered CPAC
for almost two decades. And I
1:54:47
wonder what dishes confab pill
drew about the state of the
1:54:50
conservative movement in America
right now.
1:54:53
Yeah, you know, it's really
fractured. You know, CPAC is
1:54:55
usually you know, an event that
tells you where the movement is
1:54:58
headed, and it seems more like
it's still something more like
1:55:01
Tepeyac a Trump Political Action
Conference because it really
1:55:04
just highlighted that even Haley
was sort of sandwiched between
1:55:08
two Trump's you know, Donald
Trump Jr. went before her Lera
1:55:11
Trump perform President Trump's
daughter in law went afterward.
1:55:15
So you know, the bigger news
here this weekend almost was
1:55:18
that the people who didn't show
up we're talking about Ron
1:55:20
DeSantis, the Florida Governor,
Tim Scott, the South Carolina
1:55:23
Senator and Trump's former vice
president, Mike Pence, who all
1:55:26
opted to go to a donor retreat
in Florida hosted by the Club
1:55:30
for Growth, which is an anti tax
group that's been involved in
1:55:33
Republican politics for a long
time. And they're saying that
1:55:36
they want to really support
somebody other than Trump. And
1:55:39
these candidates really need the
kind of money that comes along
1:55:43
with that. But because Trump has
such a stronghold on the party
1:55:46
infrastructure, in a potentially
crowded field, he still looks
1:55:49
like the man to beat.
1:55:52
Adam Curry: You know what's
missing from these reports? A
1:55:56
single sound bite from Trump.
1:56:00
John C Dvorak: They did this
report before Trump spoke, he
1:56:02
spoke at the very end. And the
report that you played did have
1:56:06
the sound bites from Trump.
Yeah, but not this
1:56:09
Adam Curry: sound bite.
1:56:10
Unknown: Before I even arrived
at the Oval Office, I will have
1:56:13
the disastrous war between
Russia and Ukraine settled, it
1:56:17
will be settled quickly. I will
get the problem solved. And I
1:56:25
will get it solved in rapid
order. And it will take me no
1:56:29
longer than one day I know
exactly what to say to each
1:56:32
other. I got along with very
well as I got along very well
1:56:36
with Putin, even though I'm the
one that ended his pipeline.
1:56:38
Remember, they said Trump is
giving a lot to Russia. Really.
1:56:41
Putin actually said to me if
you're my friend, and he'd like
1:56:44
to see you as my enemy.
1:56:45
Adam Curry: Now, what's
interesting there? Is he slipped
1:56:48
in the I was the one that ended
the pipeline. Cut about that?
1:56:56
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
that means. It was talking about
1:56:58
Nord Stream. Yeah. And that's
where obviously,
1:57:01
Adam Curry: I'm the one that
ended the pipeline. Okay. And I
1:57:04
can I can means I can fix it
before I come into the Oval
1:57:08
Office. Is that before you're
elected, okay. Do it tomorrow. I
1:57:13
mean, I think that if he, how
about this for a super Gambit.
1:57:18
He goes on a press tour, Sanjay
with Putin. And Putin said,
1:57:22
Yeah, you know what, I talked to
Don and yeah, we're gonna we're
1:57:24
gonna stop this thing now. Would
that make Trump popular?
1:57:30
John C Dvorak: Yeah. But with
Trump, if Trump could like, the
1:57:35
promises, the Logan Act are one
of these things where you can't
1:57:38
do foreign diplomacy if you're a
citizen, even though everybody
1:57:42
does it. Yeah.
1:57:45
Adam Curry: Can you do it as a
former president?
1:57:47
John C Dvorak: Well, I mean, it
all. They all done it.
1:57:50
Adam Curry: I'm Trump. I'm
putting the dawn in the Donbass
1:57:53
everybody. Just see it. There is
one surprise entrant coming for
1:58:00
in the 2024 election,
supposedly, that I'm excited
1:58:05
about this guy.
1:58:06
Unknown: It's been a long time
since the Kennedy name was
1:58:08
associated with a long shot
outside her presidential
1:58:12
campaign. But those days could
be making a comeback. On Friday,
1:58:16
Robert Kennedy Jr. Speaking at
St. Anselm College, was asked if
1:58:20
he's considering a run for the
White House in 2024.
1:58:23
I'm thinking about it.
1:58:32
Adam Curry: Passed the biggest
hurdle which is at my wife has
1:58:35
green lighted. How about that?
1:58:39
John C Dvorak: I'd vote for him.
1:58:40
Adam Curry: I'd vote for him to
I can't see. I'm sure he would
1:58:44
run Democrat, right. Yeah.
1:58:47
John C Dvorak: But I'm an
independent. I have done non
1:58:50
affiliated vote for anybody.
1:58:51
Adam Curry: I am a politically
homeless. I don't have to vote
1:58:54
for anybody either.
1:58:55
John C Dvorak: But I liked I
liked him. I didn't I mean,
1:59:00
they'd ruin him in some way or
shoot him as hard to say what
1:59:03
they do. The family
1:59:03
Adam Curry: does have a bad
experience with running for
1:59:06
office and being it's just so
1:59:10
John C Dvorak: it's really dark
divorce that many way back to
1:59:13
Trump. I listened to his speech,
which was long. Yeah. And he had
1:59:17
a lot in he also won the straw
poll, which I thought was
1:59:20
interesting, because as the last
time, you know, the thing that
1:59:24
ran Ron Paul used to always win
in the old days. And right, I
1:59:30
thought it was pretty good. We'd
have some new stuff here, this
1:59:32
new bid about get a new bid. He
does an April Fool's bid. He
1:59:37
goes on and starts with it's an
April Fool's joke. And he cites
1:59:41
all of blunders and follow ups
though. It was a it was it. It
1:59:47
needed a little work because it
was the first time I've heard
1:59:49
this. But it was it was staged.
It was it was it was okay. His
1:59:56
points are he really hits home
with everything that a lot of
1:59:59
these guys just can't seem to
come to grips with some of the
2:00:03
issues. He says we got to fix.
But he's at the same time. We've
2:00:07
already seen him. He's kind of
full of crap. I've not been a
2:00:11
fan since he refused to. to
pardon. Snowden and Assange in
2:00:18
particular. Yeah. There is no
reason for that. He should have
2:00:22
done it. And unless he had a gun
to his head, when if he's got a
2:00:26
gun to his head in hell, we can
just vote anybody in there
2:00:28
because they'll have a gun to
their head. Yeah.
2:00:32
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, it
should be fun. I mean, we'll,
2:00:38
we'll probably make it with the
show through the 2024. Like, I
2:00:41
don't know if we can do it
again. That'll be the fourth
2:00:43
election. You and I have been
through together.
2:00:46
John C Dvorak: 123. Yeah. Looks
like we should probably call it
2:00:48
quits at four.
2:00:51
Adam Curry: I mean, goodness
gracious. Goodness, gracious. We
2:00:53
didn't
2:00:54
John C Dvorak: really get to egg
bookselling first.
2:00:56
Adam Curry: And don't have a
piece of that action man. I
2:00:58
gotta get I gotta get an exit
strategy to get I'm going to be
2:01:03
the anti I already got
2:01:04
John C Dvorak: I've already got
the value for value book. We're
2:01:06
going to do the same thing. You
get a
2:01:08
Adam Curry: piece of that. Yeah.
Now you've seen the numbers.
2:01:12
John C Dvorak: No, we also have
the the primer, they have no
2:01:16
agenda ABCs or whatever it is.
That book which had been
2:01:20
stalling on forever.
2:01:21
Adam Curry: I think we need to
do consultancy, we need to do
2:01:23
consultancy that knowledge.
2:01:25
John C Dvorak: Yeah, we actually
could if we could get some
2:01:27
business. Can we get good?
That's the problem.
2:01:32
Adam Curry: Or with all our
knowledge, you know, I could run
2:01:36
in in 2028, and you could be my
political adviser.
2:01:41
John C Dvorak: Take you should
do a text to run for Texas
2:01:44
governor. Oh.
2:01:47
Adam Curry: That would be a fun
gig. That would be cool. Yeah.
2:01:51
When
2:01:52
John C Dvorak: you move back to
Austin, but you get into
2:01:53
governor's mansion. I'm
2:01:54
Adam Curry: not gonna move back
to one of the governor's
2:01:56
mansion. Yeah, that's all
2:01:57
John C Dvorak: right. Yes, gets
cordoned off
2:01:59
Adam Curry: to just wear big
sexy cowboy hats all day. Yeah,
2:02:04
first lady of Texas.
2:02:05
John C Dvorak: And then you
shoot a gun in the air. That's
2:02:07
the one thing I'm always
expecting the governor of Texas
2:02:12
to do once in a while. Well
yeah, and then shoot a gun in
2:02:15
the air.
2:02:16
Adam Curry: I think Texas
governor is a powerful position
2:02:19
that could be a lot of fun.
Yeah, well maybe that then maybe
2:02:23
we'll have to see you when I
when Abbott is out didn't we
2:02:25
just now he has another word
five years how many more years
2:02:28
do you get? No
2:02:29
John C Dvorak: I think it's for
four to crack I don't think it's
2:02:31
six.
2:02:32
Adam Curry: I hope not.
2:02:34
John C Dvorak: US Senate
2:02:36
Adam Curry: and we're that as we
discuss our exit strategy I'd
2:02:38
like to say in the morning to
you the man who put the sea in
2:02:40
the sea pack con five ladies and
gentlemen, please say hello to
2:02:43
my friend on the other end. Mr.
John C. Lieutenant Governor of
2:02:48
Texas.
2:02:49
John C Dvorak: Good morning, Mr.
And Mrs. Ship seat boots with
2:02:52
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2:02:55
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John C Dvorak: know is a very
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It was just a it was a nice
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Adam Curry: oh the that was the
yelling and yelling, yelling
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this base. Do you know what that
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invasion of Mars. Invasion From
Mars movie which you hate.
2:06:21
John C Dvorak: Oh, that'd be a
crummy movie. Yeah,
2:06:24
Adam Curry: I love that movie.
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John C Dvorak: I was terrible.
2:06:26
Adam Curry: I love them. Why
would you?
2:06:28
John C Dvorak: Like I think it
ruined the career of Tim Burton.
2:06:31
That one movie
2:06:32
Adam Curry: didn't quite okay
after that didn't.
2:06:35
John C Dvorak: Well, he was on
the upswing as being a superstar
2:06:38
art artsy fartsy director that
was gonna always produce
2:06:42
fascinating material after
Batman. And then he did that
2:06:48
Mars movie and that was the end
of it.
2:06:50
Adam Curry: I'm sorry to hear
that. Okay, well, we love the we
2:06:55
love the art from Dame Kenny.
Ben, what else were we looking
2:06:57
at? There was a lot of Scott
Adams jokes now.
2:07:04
John C Dvorak: We'd like to
Winnie the Pooh won over the I
2:07:07
thought it was okay.
2:07:08
Adam Curry: I mean, it's not
Yeah,
2:07:09
John C Dvorak: Roger Roundtree
really liked that piece. Oh, he
2:07:12
did? Yeah. If you look at the
Macedon arms instance, a nice
2:07:16
mess. And a lot of these artists
come on there and they predict
2:07:19
what we're going to pick. Yeah.
Yeah. Which is always never get
2:07:23
it right. By the way. It's
weird.
2:07:26
Adam Curry: It's a mistake.
There really is. Some tick tock
2:07:30
stuff in there. Some stylized
pieces amygdala therapy, cute
2:07:36
cute. But just entertainment as
an enlightenment. Whoa, does
2:07:41
that the mic falling out of the
cradle? Was that you falling
2:07:44
over happened you just fall
down?
2:07:47
John C Dvorak: No the image of
the scarlet hit the deck.
2:07:49
Adam Curry: Oh, well it's still
working. Hey nail that shit
2:07:52
down. Zippy Be quiet what else
oh no that was it. Those are the
2:07:58
ones that that was the end na
now that again be careful with a
2:08:04
lot of detail a lot of small
little things you really just
2:08:08
can't see it when when it's at
you know two years
2:08:12
John C Dvorak: by plane about
one specifically okay. I like it
2:08:17
came from China I thought was
cute.
2:08:20
Adam Curry: It was a lot of
stuff in there but it was so
2:08:22
hard to see you can't even see
the little face they just one of
2:08:25
your complaint. That would be
the complaint, the complaint.
2:08:28
There was another one that I
thought you bitched about I
2:08:32
never bitched about anything I
discussed things with enormous
2:08:37
respect there was probably the
honey the Winnie the Pooh Bear
2:08:41
that was also too complicated
just too much too much too
2:08:45
small. It doesn't matter
2:08:47
John C Dvorak: like the you know
there was a Winnie the Pooh Bear
2:08:49
I think the bite hand and break
pot light light blue against a
2:08:56
kind of a cream background was
not consciously you get to be
2:09:02
able to consider contrast
2:09:04
Adam Curry: yes contrast is key.
With this type of art it's a
2:09:08
very art can look great on the
wall can great look great on a
2:09:13
on a hoodie by the way I'm
wearing my no agenda appetite
2:09:16
for deconstruction hoodie I love
this thing. I know you don't
2:09:20
like the skulls that of course
are us I love this this hoodie
2:09:25
did is so cool. You know people
people look as man Guns and
2:09:30
Roses I said look again look
again. Wow, is that you? That's
2:09:37
me baby gods. Oh cool. Who did
that to superstars? superstars?
2:09:41
No agenda shop.com. No
affiliation with no agenda show.
2:09:45
John C Dvorak: And actually who
did that? Artists? That's
2:09:48
Adam Curry: a good question.
2:09:50
John C Dvorak: I forget to be
able to you should know I
2:09:52
shouldn't know.
2:09:52
Adam Curry: I feel bad. It
shouldn't be signed somewhere.
2:09:56
Someone in the truck
2:09:56
John C Dvorak: already signs
nothing,
2:09:58
Adam Curry: or anything for that
matter. Are someone in the troll
2:10:00
room? Oh no. It's a pullover
hoodie Correct? No agenda
2:10:04
shop.com It is truly one of my
favorite. It's even more it
2:10:09
rises above my Salem College
Alma Mater hoodie. I went to
2:10:14
school for exactly three months.
So that's a big piece of value
2:10:18
we got from from David Kenny
man, really appreciate that. You
2:10:22
can contribute your time, talent
or treasure and we love thanking
2:10:25
our executive and Associate
Executive producers. Oh, Mike
2:10:28
Riley it was a mike Riley piece.
2:10:31
John C Dvorak: It was Yeah.
2:10:32
Adam Curry: And you hated it. I
don't like skulls that's exactly
2:10:37
what you said. Everyone
2:10:40
John C Dvorak: looks like a
Grateful Dead all those that and
2:10:42
they stole it from the Grateful
Dead to I'm considering Guns and
2:10:47
Roses.
2:10:48
Adam Curry: So beta hopefully
got on Slack but Darth? Yeah.
2:10:53
Which means it's better to steal
something well then make
2:10:57
something poorly. It loses
something in the translation.
2:11:02
Time to thank our executive
producers and Associate
2:11:04
Executive Producers people came
in well today and we appreciate
2:11:07
that you are do you have the
note from synonymous of Dogpatch
2:11:10
and Loris LeBeau via because I
do and serranos Dogpatch. Truly
2:11:16
an anonymous, anonymous, we have
no idea who he is. Every single
2:11:20
month he donates to the show. He
always has a message which is
2:11:24
sincere and heartfelt. He sends
us in and while may make a lot
2:11:28
of noise he sends
2:11:29
John C Dvorak: trying to get
this this pop filter away from
2:11:31
the mic. Okay, yeah, these
things are annoying.
2:11:35
Adam Curry: Yes, I would agree.
And today, it's always an amount
2:11:42
which we do not comprehend.
We're not sure how he comes up
2:11:45
with these amounts. And today it
is $2,151 in complete cash
2:11:52
donation to the best podcast in
the universe. Thank you so much,
2:11:57
sir. honor Mr. Dogpatch. What is
his note?
2:12:00
John C Dvorak: He says your work
plus all the producers offering
2:12:03
insight and perspective, the
openness and willingness of John
2:12:08
and Adam to acknowledge errors
as we did earlier in today's
2:12:11
show,
2:12:12
Adam Curry: although we burned
the guy, but yeah, we we
2:12:16
acknowledged,
2:12:17
John C Dvorak: acknowledged and
differences of opinion while
2:12:21
continuing their outstanding
collaboration and choosing to
2:12:25
rely on their individual
capacity to attract willing
2:12:28
willing contributors for 15
years remains a positive
2:12:34
influence for me. And obviously
there are many producers that
2:12:39
make this effort work. Thank you
both are thank you to both of
2:12:46
you. And to all the producers
that contribute so much to this
2:12:50
show. No jingles no karma. And
he makes a point of saying this
2:12:54
is for February. All right.
2021 51
2:12:59
Adam Curry: Serrana Miss thank
you so much. You know when I
2:13:01
hear him talk like that I'm
like, Yeah, we should we should
2:13:04
retire and write that value for
value book. If once people
2:13:08
understand what you can actually
do, if you have some patience
2:13:12
and are willing to follow the
guidelines, you don't need
2:13:16
advertising in your life. It's
really appreciate it. I love
2:13:20
that. Now check this out. Dred
Scott, who already contributes
2:13:26
so much to the show by doing all
of our chapter work for every
2:13:29
single podcast which means he
listens to every single show
2:13:33
sets markers finds images,
usually from no agenda art
2:13:36
generator.com And then puts it
into into the feed so you can
2:13:41
enjoy that in one of those brand
new podcast apps podcast
2:13:44
apps.com. He comes in with a
show number donation which I
2:13:48
have not seen the show number
donation I think in quite a
2:13:51
while because we're up there
$1,535 He's from Oceanside,
2:13:57
California and says hello this
is from Dred Scott Duke of the
2:14:00
Southern California megaregion
No jingles no karma. It's a
2:14:04
little bit longer than normal,
but it's a show number donation.
2:14:07
I'm happy to read it. Answering
the call from JC D about
2:14:09
newsletter response please
accept my humbly submitted show
2:14:12
number donation of 1535. Yes, we
accept. Yesterday Saturday March
2:14:17
4 was my birthday. And mark the
six years since my first
2:14:21
donation after having been juice
pouch, a juice pouch for several
2:14:25
years. Yes, that's his his
personal word for douchebag when
2:14:29
it became a night of the no
gender roundtable and I asked to
2:14:31
be known as Sir Ben autonomous
of the 1.5 playback,
2:14:35
approximately one year later, I
took the Adam Curry One times
2:14:38
playback challenge. I slowed
another life saved or created. I
2:14:43
slowed all podcast down and it
made a huge difference in my
2:14:46
mental processing. Check this
out. I have severe ADHD and I
2:14:52
had erroneously thought that 1.5
speed was helping me focus
2:14:56
better turned out that forcing
me to slow down allows me to get
2:15:00
better control of my ADHD which
by the way, almost everybody in
2:15:04
the universe has these days.
Thank you crackpot and buzzkill
2:15:08
for the 1.0 recommendation as it
has made a difference to all
2:15:13
those pods speeders out there,
give it a shot, try a 21 day 1.0
2:15:18
Time to challenge this is Scott,
man, thank you. I would like to
2:15:24
call up my next door neighbor,
the beer man as a juice pouch. I
2:15:29
need a juice pouch jingle. I hit
him in the mouth about two years
2:15:32
ago and he has yet to donate.
Thank you, ACD and JCD for the
2:15:36
best dang comedy and media
deconstruction podcast in the
2:15:39
universe. Thanks for tolerating
my lengthy donation note Dred
2:15:42
Scott, Duke of the Southern
California megaregion. No, I'm
2:15:45
very happy to read that. Thank
you for taking the challenge.
2:15:48
And we are happy that we have
another life saved recreated.
2:15:51
Thank you. Dr. Yeah.
2:15:54
John C Dvorak: Nice. Yeah. I
should mention the newsletter. I
2:15:58
think it's did came on March 1.
This is when because the
2:16:02
newsletter got. It was weird.
That was very weird. What
2:16:04
happened there? So I sent out
another note in plain text. And
2:16:09
I think this is every March 1
and adapted to it. It happens
2:16:15
pretty much every quarter. And I
think is Google changing their
2:16:19
algos for version for sorting?
2:16:22
Adam Curry: Oh, I know exactly
why. Remember the accusation? Is
2:16:25
Google changes the algorithm
whenever it's time for the
2:16:28
Republicans to send out
newsletters and CPAC would have
2:16:31
been the reason. In fact, if you
had CPAC in the newsletter,
2:16:35
which you might have, but they
always shadow ban, and start to
2:16:41
bring down Republican stuff
around a Republican event. How
2:16:47
about that?
2:16:48
John C Dvorak: I like it because
I did get more than one response
2:16:51
from somebody saying I didn't
get the newsletter I looked all
2:16:53
over. I mean, so now there was
it wasn't some people got
2:16:57
blocked completely. And they did
have a they did have a Google
2:17:01
account. And I do have a note
for somebody I want to read
2:17:04
though. And this is kind of
cute.
2:17:05
Adam Curry: And I'd like to I'd
like to point out that people
2:17:08
who don't listen to the donation
segment are losing out they lose
2:17:11
out on life saving tips, and SEO
tips.
2:17:16
John C Dvorak: SEO tips,
whatever. producer Laura sent
2:17:21
his cute note in, she says I was
planning on giving this week and
2:17:25
my debit card was hacked. So I
can't send my small donation
2:17:28
through PayPal. I'm getting a
new card by next Friday. So I
2:17:32
should be able to catch up then.
If you don't send these emails
2:17:35
about donations, I would think
about sending I wouldn't think
2:17:40
about sending money your way.
This is something to note for
2:17:44
people out there doing podcast
of
2:17:45
Adam Curry: our book another
teaser from the value for value
2:17:48
book coming in 2027
2:17:50
John C Dvorak: If you don't send
these emails about donations, I
2:17:53
wouldn't think about sending
money your way I see it as a
2:17:56
reminder that I need and I don't
know if I'm just recalling
2:18:00
clearly but when I clicked on
the link in this email, and it
2:18:04
took me to the newsletter page
it seems I had a portion of the
2:18:08
text missing anyway I don't know
what that was at some other
2:18:13
issue. But wishes I said this
from the beginning that these
2:18:17
newsletters are just people
aren't they don't spend their
2:18:20
life thinking about the no
agenda show all day. I do well
2:18:25
besides you.
2:18:27
Adam Curry: You don't even do
that.
2:18:30
John C Dvorak: Katy Texas Katy
in Texas sorry. Or is it Katy
2:18:34
Texas? No, Katy, Texas. This is
I did what you did last time.
2:18:40
Dame Becky There you go. In Katy
Texas. I was waiting. 721 51 I
2:18:47
had to pick up the keyboard.
switcher row. Please. Credit 720
2:18:51
dot 51. To Mike Kenny. Oh, and
when I saw this name, I would
2:18:57
never pronounce it Kenny it
would be chinny
2:19:00
Adam Curry: that same but she
put a handy pronunciation guide
2:19:02
right there. And the note
2:19:04
John C Dvorak: pronounced Kenny.
Unlike a lot of
2:19:07
Adam Curry: unlike a lot of
people who think it's hilarious
2:19:09
to put a name in there that we
know we're going to stumble and
2:19:11
fumble over there just mean
those people.
2:19:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well.
They're mostly Dutch in
2:19:18
celebration of his 72nd trip
around the sun on March may to
2:19:23
go with this donation he
achieves night status and will
2:19:28
join me at the roundtable and
shall be known as Sir mic of the
2:19:30
great Katy Prairie. Katy, Texas.
That is He requests homemade
2:19:36
lemon shallow, which reminds me
and a rare ribeye no jingles
2:19:41
just lots of karma. Keep up the
good work. We love you guys.
2:19:45
Unknown: But reminder to our
garland. At least garland Lee.
2:19:50
John C Dvorak: She's up in the
garlands.
2:19:52
Adam Curry: I bet you they're
still listening. We used to get
2:19:54
salmon sent. And we never got
salmon. Yeah, I think she sent a
2:19:58
salmon once and lemon shallow
lemon shallow and shallow was so
2:20:02
good her lemon shallow. I hope
she's okay.
2:20:06
John C Dvorak: I haven't heard
from them at all.
2:20:08
Adam Curry: Congratulations.
Nice to be sir Mike and do you
2:20:13
watch Tik Tok more now that you
are in the 70s is my question
2:20:17
for you and some karma for you
sir I'll get smarter due to
2:20:24
karma Dame Taylor is in
Huntington West Virginia 633 dot
2:20:30
41 Cool numbers today. Please
accept this donation as book
2:20:33
there we go a switcheroo for the
best man in the entire universe
2:20:37
and also smokin hot I might add.
I've been donating $33.33 for a
2:20:43
while now and this is the
remainder to bring him to
2:20:46
knighthood before we get married
next month I heard John's call
2:20:51
via the newsletter and I've been
meaning to send this to both of
2:20:53
you for a while as you have
blessed us with job karma and
2:20:56
we'd like to return the favor
Thank you. This man deserves the
2:21:00
world and that includes a
knighthood before we wed please
2:21:03
Knight him data man what should
we say data man what do you
2:21:06
think data man or data man? What
do you think? Well
2:21:10
John C Dvorak: I think data man
like data man who's up man this