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March 12th, 2023 • 2h 57m

1537: Dig Up Canada!

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John C Dvorak: hook line and sinker. Adam curry Jhansi
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Devora.
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Adam Curry: Sunday March 12 2023. This is your award
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winning combination media assassination episode 1537. This
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is no agenda, observing Daylight Savings Time and broadcasting
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live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country on average and
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number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's wet.
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I'm Jhansi Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Thank you for that exhilarating weather reports
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from Sun northern silicon. It's wet. What's weird in Southern
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California too. That's gonna screw up the Oscars.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, that's right. The Oscars are today. Tonight.
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Yeah,
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Adam Curry: I have a report of the Oscars but I have a pre
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report Hold on a second. Well, I can
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John C Dvorak: tell you who's gonna win the Best Picture. Tom
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Cruise. Everyone everywhere, everything all the time. That
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movie Who's Who is that by? By this Chinese used to be a
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Chinese film. Listen to this important
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Adam Curry: report from now this was interesting. This is who and
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so it's the Indian news service. Your friend but they cut to an
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Indian dude. Reporting on behalf of Voice of America. Which is
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kind of concerning.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, that makes it sound as though wi O
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and maybe a front.
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Unknown: You know, this year's Oscar preparation is very
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hectic. Because of the past few days in Los Angeles. It's been
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raining nonstops. So actually, yesterday, they have a lot of
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buckets lying on the floor to capture rainwater. And Oscar
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statues as you can see behind me like there was covered in a rain
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jacket to prevent rain from like damaging it. And you know, this
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year, as you mentioned, is very different for the red carpet
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because it's actually champagne color. Now according to the
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academy CEO Bill, he said that the reason for this change of
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color is because he wants it to be more luxurious, while Jimmy
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Kimmel mentioned that they wanted no blood to be shared in
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this year's Oscar obviously referencing to the last year,
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last year slap when Chris Rock was slapped by Will Smith. Now
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it's time that the Academy Award has changed its color from red.
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In fact, before in 1961, before that, it was actually green. And
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carpet itself is actually 152 meters long, and about 285
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kilograms. So it requires 18 people to actually set up and
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about 900 hours now the Hollywood stars will make their
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way not gray carpet but this champion colored carpet all the
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way here all the way towards the Dolby Theater on my left I just
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Adam Curry: love the stats that the commentators have I love all
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these little nuggets of information to let you know that
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the red carpet was once green.
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John C Dvorak: Oh my 900 hours because union
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Adam Curry: Right exactly. It's champagne not based champagne,
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champagne. It's champagne. Yeah. It's my way a sponsor if you
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John C Dvorak: had a color if you had a champagne with that
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color of liquid in the glass, you'd think somebody pooped in
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it
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Adam Curry: oh Ma'am, did you think that the MO a Shawn Dawn
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is a sponsor? Is that why it's champagne champagne even though
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it's beige? There's gotta be some tie into this Come on.
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John C Dvorak: Maybe this guy really? Got to be well, they're
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all they usually serve champagne. Well actually not at
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this event. They're the new tables again are going to have a
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seating what's how's it going to be?
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Adam Curry: By you asking me like, like, I know, like, like
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to report it Entertainment Television all of a sudden, like
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I'm Ryan Seacrest. No, no. No. And for those of you tuning in
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from around the world, as many do live on Thursdays and
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Sundays, big changes afoot here in the United States.
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Unknown: And it's that time of year again, get ready to lose an
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hour of sleep. Daylight Saving Time is upon us clocks. Go ahead
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spring forward at 2am but there is an effort to make the change
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permanent. A bipartisan group of senators has introduced
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legislation that would keep the same time throughout the year
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Adam Curry: over 15 years we've been doing this merry little
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podcast together and it's the same report every year. Well,
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we're gonna we're gonna make it permanent. We're gonna stop this
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insanity.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, every year before that,
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Adam Curry: every and before that every year. I actually
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didn't feel too bad this morning. Usually I feel much
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worse. I don't know why. But how did you feel getting up?
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John C Dvorak: I felt okay. Yeah. Now you have an hour later
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though. I mean, I was I've had to do the short 10 instead of 11
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that kind of kept me short on my pre show rituals.
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Adam Curry: But what do you mean you didn't you didn't get up an
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hour earlier? No. Oh, you just wake up when you feel like
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waking up. You don't set an alarm and you just wake up
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John C Dvorak: an alarm for the same time I've always set the
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alarm and I just offset the the target time for the show. So
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Adam Curry: preparation be damned. Like screw no agenda
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I'll just work an hour shorter. Is that what I'm hearing? So you
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John C Dvorak: know what you've heard? Yeah, no yeah, no Yeah.
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No. You are saying to me yes, you should get up earlier and
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ruin the pacing and everything you've developed over the years
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a screw up to show for me so you can show some you know, you
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could be
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Adam Curry: Yeah, that's what I'm that's what I'm angling for,
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John. That's, that's exactly. Actually I'm very happy that you
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woke up at your at your normal body clock circadian rhythm
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time. Because you're not as grouchy in previous years.
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You're like really a bit old
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John C Dvorak: brother.
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Adam Curry: And mind you. This is now one of the most dangerous
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vocations in the world. That's us being podcasters.
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Unknown: Now to that horrific crime near Seattle, Washington,
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a podcast her and her husband allegedly killed by a stalker.
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Police say a 38 year old truck driver from Texas broke into the
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couple's home and shot them before turning the gun on
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himself taking his own life. The woman had filed a protective
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order against him.
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Adam Curry: Why are you chuckling it's not that funny.
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It's a dangerous a dangerous
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John C Dvorak: no I'm not chuckling at that I'm chuckling
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at the fact that what good does it do you to go shooting
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somebody and then shoot yourself nobody knows anything?
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Adam Curry: Well that's not I mean, I have a longer report if
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you're really interested but this this guy was it here's what
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scared me a little bit about it and I'm actually I'm gonna play
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Unknown: it for he said i Police say this. eight year old Ramin
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Hodaka rom res he stopped shot and killed podcaster Zori
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Sadeghi and her husband before appearing to take his own life.
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Appearing hostage situation. Shooters not. A neighbor says
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their security camera caught the commotion overnight there was
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blood curdling to hear investigators say Hodor Quran
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Reza, he listened to today's live podcast for people who
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speak Farsi looking for jobs in the tech industry and befriended
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her through a chat app. They communicated but things quickly
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escalated.
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This is the absolute worst outcome. You know for a stalking
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case. This is every victim every detected. Police Chief's worst
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nightmare.
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ABC News has learned just a week before her death, Sadeghi filed
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a request for an order of protection against the suspect
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alleging and chilling detail a pattern of behavior that made
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the 33 year old fear for her safety now pay attention
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according to the orders today. Laughter voicemails more than 10
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times a week sending flowers even sending her husband more
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than 20 messages a day writing he won't let me go.
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Adam Curry: There are many people who EMAIL ME 10 times a
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day who send gifts to the PIO box. Who who say they won't let
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me go. You don't have that not like that. I don't know. But
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it's any any one of these people could flip in a heartbeat?
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John C Dvorak: You never know. Yes. And you never know why. I
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mean, I can see that the I didn't know the background of
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this. But she's doing a farsi podcast. This is already Middle
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Eastern politics, which is the most dangerous sort of politics.
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Yeah, it was nuts. A shame.
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Adam Curry: It's horrible. It's a bad day for podcasting. Very
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bad day for podcasting. That's okay, because we're going to
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crack down on crime. And I'm just going to I'm not going to
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actually spike it. But I'm pretty sure that the ball I'm
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going to reference here is President Biden resurrecting the
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1994 crime bill, which he was as Senator Biden was the
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John C Dvorak: was the co sponsor.
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Adam Curry: I think he I think he he introduced it, I don't
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think he was just the co sponsor. And this went hand in
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hand with front page, I think was it was Newsweek or Time
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Magazine, even New York Times little yummy. It was the
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predators, the nine year old predators and we had to crack
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down on him. And then we got this whole Corrections
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Corporation of America, the real crackdown arresting hundreds of
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1000s mainly black men. And wouldn't you know it
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Unknown: so folks look Magga Republicans are calling for
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defunding the police department.
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Adam Curry: Now. This is beautiful. I have to say when it
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comes to twisting the truth, there's lying and lying, lying.
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There's nothing better than saying hey, it was actually the
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Magga Republicans who wanted to defund the police. It wasn't it
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wasn't the crazy squad or anything like that. No, it was
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the Maga Republicans and he ties it into the investigation of
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FBI. So he's like, Oh, it's law enforcement. It's really the
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Maga Republicans whoever wrote this concept for him, which he
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somehow was able to get out. It brilliant. So
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Unknown: folks, look Okay. Magga Republicans are calling for
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defunding the police departments and to funding the FBI. Now
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that's a good one. I like that one. Well, guess what? Gary
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tries to provide funding that is going to keep community safe and
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secure. We talked about how about crime was outraged. My
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budget invests in public safety, and includes funding for more
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training, more support for law enforcement at a time and expect
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to pay men play many roles. We expect our cops to be social
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workers, we accept them to be psychologists and mental health
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counselors. You know, more cops are killed responding to
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domestic violence calls than anything else. To know that.
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Well, folks, I don't want to defend them, they need more
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help. We don't expect a cop to be everything from a
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psychologist to a counselor. These departments need more
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investment in this kind of help. And we're going to find proven
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strategies for accountable effective community places so
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Copson know the communities they serve. In the communities know
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them. We got to get cops back on the street, back in the street
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and the communities they know. Where they know the people where
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they stop in and they know the guy who owns the liquor store.
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They know the preacher who runs the local school, the local
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ministry, they know the person who runs the local grocery
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store. Well, we did that in the Biden crime. No crime person
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just plummeted. You did that Joey? Because I know, folks,
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Adam Curry: folks. Yeah, it was very successful. You're 94 crime
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bill. Okay.
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John C Dvorak: It's a good investment. The here's a good
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way. He's describing some sort of small town America, where the
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cops are roaming around on Monday to beat Yeah, you know,
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yeah. You know, just go to the cab, just roam into the giant
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Safeway and know who the owner is corporations. Nobody, they're
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kidding.
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Adam Curry: Well, yeah. Anyway. It was. I just, it's like, there
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you go. He's going into the 94. Crime Bill. And it's like, it's
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like, problem reaction solution. And just blame it on Magga.
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Republicans. Beautiful. That
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John C Dvorak: was just to pick my nose.
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Adam Curry: No, I am. I am stunned by it. I have not heard
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a
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John C Dvorak: lot of factcheck false. I'm sure it was all over
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the place.
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Adam Curry: No, only on your no agenda show. Sorry, people are
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way too obsessed with dying. you've
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Unknown: conducted a number of studies on the health impacts of
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daylight saving time. What is your research shown regarding
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the consequences of this practice on our health?
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Adam Curry: Now, what could the consequences of Daylight Saving
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Time Time shifting have? We do this every year, by the way
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makes up this year? It's even a little bit funnier? Because we
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have numerous left COVID And we have
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John C Dvorak: courage depression.
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Adam Curry: No, no. Oh, no. Yeah. So
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Unknown: basically, our body has a natural biological clock
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control processes, different processes in our body, for
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example, the sleep cycles, physical activity for
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consumption. And what our research found, as well as many
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studies from the world is that if we disrupt the natural
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biological clock, it can increase the incidence of
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different diseases, such as heart disease, increased the
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risk for heart attack, stroke, and even diabetes and cancer.
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Adam Curry: There you go. heart attack, stroke and cancer.
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John C Dvorak: Same thing that COVID does.
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Adam Curry: Exactly, exactly. But depression wise, there is
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well not really depression, but there's something there's
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something going on on tick tock. You know, I'm gonna save that.
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I'm gonna save that. We'll save that for later.
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John C Dvorak: No, douche. Tick tock, now, tock, tick tock,
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Adam Curry: tick tock update everybody. Women, and all I
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found are white women, but women on tick tock are complaining
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about their Adderall, Vyvanse or Ritalin. And if you recall,
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there was a while back there were a couple of stories that
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there seemed to be a shortage. Maybe that was during the supply
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chain, that there was a shortage of the precursors or something
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for Adderall. And there was some replacement. Not quite sure.
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Although violaceum it would be meth. Yes. Correct. They talk
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about it. It's D meth or something. But what's happening
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is women. It's not working for them anymore. They're blaming
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the shortage, although Vyvanse as far as I know, has not
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changed. And I think that we may be just reaching a point If you
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hear how long these women have been on Adderall or Vyvanse I
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mean, is it possible that meth at a certain point just you just
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become kind of used to it? It doesn't work for you anymore. Is
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that possible? Do you know anything about meth?
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John C Dvorak: Nope, I have no no. I have no idea. Well, I put
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them out I may have does it make sense to get used to your biases
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or more of this stuff? Whatever.
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Adam Curry: I put a little I put a little supercop together for
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Unknown: your 100% not receiving Adderall coming from someone who
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was diagnosed ADHD and has been on this medication since I was
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nine. I'm currently 26 I did some research to
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Adam Curry: get nine and currently 27 taken meth for her
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whole life because
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Unknown: I haven't been able to function lately. So this is my
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bottle and I swear to you, it used to say Adderall, XR 20
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milligrams, not D amphetamine. When comparing dexedrine and
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Adderall directly, Adderall showed the ability to decrease
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symptoms of ADHD overall. And there is no evidence that
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dexedrine could I personally think they're giving us
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dexedrine during this shortage, but that's just me.
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Yeah, no, they're not working. I had to go take a drug test for
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my new job. And so of course, I woke up that morning took my
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veins like two or three hours later I go to this drug screen.
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I just got my results back today. There is no embedded
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means in my system.
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Is it just me or is anyone else's Adderall just not
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working? I'm on like a 20 milligram extended release. And
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I feel like ever since everyone's been talking about
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the shortage and stuff, like all the new bottles that I get, and
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like, I feel like they only maybe work on Sundays or I have
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to drink like coffee to like, maybe get it to kick in. I don't
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know. Y'all
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may have figured out what my Vyvanse isn't working. I was
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diagnosed with ADHD 10 years ago, and I've been taking ADHD
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meds on and off for 10 years. And this shit is different.
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Okay, this is for anyone who takes any sort of like stimulant
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Adderall, Vyvanse, Ritalin, Concerta, any of those shortcuts
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my language, this should this should is not working. I don't I
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don't know what they're giving us. But it's not it. It's not
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Adam Curry: if I love how fast they're talking, they seem to be
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high anyway, it
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Unknown: this isn't a real they're giving us a sugar pill a
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placebo something. Every single morning I used to take this I
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would get like the instant butterflies in my stomach, I
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feel the need to go to the restroom. And it would be this
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extreme focus all day. And like a terrible, terrible feeling.
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Before I go to bed, a little bit of anxiety, and I couldn't fall
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asleep. None of that. Now granted, it's helped my sleep.
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But that's how I know it's not working. So there's discourse
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about ADHD meds not working lately, and there's been like a
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national shortage. And I'm noticing it to some of my
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Vyvanse works and sometimes it doesn't. So I'm gonna stop
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making a chart. Because I'm gonna right now it's not
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working. So when it works, I can feel a come up or just like sit
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there for a little bit. I'm like, yep, meds are kicking in.
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And then I do stuff like make appointments or clean or do my
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homework or read. And I don't make stupid little jokes
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constantly in my head. And I took it it I should have come up
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by now. And I'm thinking a lot of dumb stuff. So today's dose
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is not working and they are from the same bottle. And but the
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other day it was working. So today I'm gonna go get my
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refill. Because Walgreens said I have five days to get it or
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they're going to just put it back because why don't they just
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automatically send us the ADHD meds like they really expect us
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to come get it. Anyway, I'm gonna make a chart and when it
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works when it doesn't work, and I will report back in
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approximately a month.
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Adam Curry: I'm sorry, I hear junkies.
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John C Dvorak: I'm here. Are you hearing correctly?
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Adam Curry: Oh, this this. This saddens me. It's funny, but it
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saddens me to know and then these women are addicted.
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They're junkies. I'll bet you they're listening at 2.0 speed
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to
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John C Dvorak: maybe you got they're not listening.
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Adam Curry: No, no, they're not listening. But this is epidemic.
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And so the minute if something changes, and I don't know if it
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changes. I mean, if you've been taking it since you were nine
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and you're 26 now yeah, okay, maybe maybe you're maybe you're
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just immune to it just doesn't work well enough. And that one
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lady said, Well, you know, I take some coffee and I feel a
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little bit better. That This to me is like wow, this is sad.
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John C Dvorak: Well, they couldn't be right. Because I
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noticed this myself with certain drugs. They'll take once in a
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while. Over the counter, for example, the peroxan which is
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Aleve. Uh huh. I find that the generic Aleve the approximate
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generic doesn't work at all.
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Adam Curry: That's interesting. You say that because when my
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when I had my first surgery in my mouth, I could take ibuprofen
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I got these big 600 milligram ibuprofen, but I try I don't
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believe that an actual brand name Eleaf did nothing. Just
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nothing. And that was brand names. I don't know. I don't
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know. Maybe the Chinese are screwing us over.
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John C Dvorak: They could be, or the Indians, most of this stuff
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comes from India. Well, this Vyvanse or whatever it is, is
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interesting. I never heard much about it before. It's another
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verb. I've taken it. Oh, yeah. What is it like?
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Adam Curry: Well, I took it once. Because what? Oh, just see
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what my daughter was on. She's not on it. This is a long time
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ago. This is 2011 I think. And she was taking Vyvanse I'm like,
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Well, let me try one of these. See what that's like. I was
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tripping balls. It's a it's a time release. And I mean, that
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thing is 1214 hours. He's just just just really I got little
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sweaty, Speedy. I'm not a you know, my drug has always been
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marijuana. My drug is the opposite of Vyvanse. I hated it.
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I can't believe anyone would would voluntarily take that
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John C Dvorak: so it's another very it's a variation, a major
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variation of an of an amphetamine and feta mean. So
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it's speed. Yeah. How's he get away with selling this stuff to
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the public at large is beyond me. Well,
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Adam Curry: I think this is the telemedicine that's what I'm
21:18
learning the telemedicine systems like the one you we
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talked about the one that Weight Watchers bought so that they
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could prescribe ozempic to their clients and pretend like it's so
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it's our it's our program don't worry about program and says
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it's what's working. In fact, I got a note from one of our
21:41
producers, I'm over 50. And for numerous reasons can't lose the
21:44
weight weight, the way I used to. My last physical had me as
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pre diabetes, ie I had to make a change, or I will have type two.
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And by the way, we all have we're all pre diabetic, trust
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me, we're all pre cancerous pre debt, we're all pre debt. My
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wife and I started started using majorna, which is like ozempic.
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For Weight Loss, I lost 20 pounds in the first month, the
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cost is $300 for four shots that taken weekly. The Diabetes
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version is about 1000 a month and sold in special injectors.
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For me, it was a simple choice, do this now or do it later with
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diabetes. So he's been convinced we can afford to do this but but
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you know, when I say we can afford to do this, in fact, the
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amount we spend his savings saved a not eating out with
22:30
these drugs, your appetite drips, and drips, and you really
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don't want to eat all that much. I bet I'll bet the five answers
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to this class of drugs has been used in Hollywood and by the
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elites for decades, finally available to those of us in the
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upper middle class, aren't you happy? He says if I were blessed
22:46
with great self control of my eating, I would not be in this
22:49
situation. I'm a realist. So he certainly has given up. He says
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he can't he can't do it. He doesn't have the he doesn't have
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the willpower. The willpower. Yeah. But these telemedicine
23:02
health guys, these are the ones these are the ones that are
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prescribing all kinds of stuff. And, and by the way, big story
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about cerebral cerebral is another one of these telehealth
23:19
apps. Well, they got caught sharing millions of their
23:24
patients data with advertisers.
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John C Dvorak: Oh so much for HIPAA.
23:31
Adam Curry: That's great. If an individual creators cerebral
23:34
account the information disclosed Me included name phone
23:36
number, email address, date baba, baba, bah, online self. In
23:41
addition, the individual has completed any portion of
23:44
cerebral online Melf health self assessment, the information
23:47
disclosed may also have been included in the service the
23:49
individual selected, so they just sold that now they're
23:51
getting fined for it, but it's not like you're hearing much
23:54
about it. Yeah. It's really it's really nuts.
24:02
John C Dvorak: The allopathic medical system is out of
24:04
control.
24:05
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, how about this? This is you'll love
24:08
this Wall Street Journal. March is a special time for college
24:15
basketball fans who kick back on the couch for days to watch the
24:19
two week NCAA Tournament known as March Madness. It has also
24:25
become a shining moment for some neurologists who see the games
24:29
as a perfect time to peddle vasectomies. Yes, the idea of
24:34
pairing male family planning with March Madness appears to
24:38
have been very successful so how about that?
24:45
John C Dvorak: How does that work
24:46
Adam Curry: is vast vast madness there you'll see the commercials
24:49
vast madness along with March Madness. I
24:51
John C Dvorak: have not seen any of these commercials. They say
24:53
it's coming.
24:54
Adam Curry: They say it's coming. Kleenex or advertising
24:57
VAs madness recover On the couch glued to the TV guilt free
25:04
John C Dvorak: yeah forget to be washed all these grades. Oh,
25:06
that's Oh man as well maybe
25:07
Adam Curry: I want to watch the games. Don't interrupt me. Well,
25:10
you can if you're recovering from your vasectomy. I wonder
25:15
how many of our producers have been tricked into this.
25:19
John C Dvorak: I think half of our producers have had a
25:20
vasectomy, or they complain about a report or
25:24
Adam Curry: they're about to leave us
25:27
Unknown: to back off they
25:28
Adam Curry: got really mad. It's like you can't talk about EVs.
25:32
You can't talk about vasectomies. You can't talk
25:35
about it.
25:35
John C Dvorak: I'm sure people will warming's out. Hey,
25:37
Adam Curry: man, I have ADHD to stop busting. I'm a math guy,
25:42
you do whatever you want. I was a druggie for all my life. That
25:47
marijuana still still tobacco was well. Dodge is things like,
25:54
wow, they got a hold of us now that God has bought the balls
25:58
literally.
26:01
John C Dvorak: Well, you did play a Biden clip. I want to get
26:02
a couple Biden clips out of the way. All right. Biden is not
26:08
very good at math.
26:12
Unknown: I just met I won't embarrass them by pointing out I
26:14
don't want I don't have permission. But I just met a
26:17
woman who has healthcare costs that are 600 $600,000 A year
26:22
$7,000 A month? Well, guess what? How can you possibly deal
26:28
with that? Well, we just dealt with.
26:32
Adam Curry: So that sounds like he multiplied by. He did an
26:35
extra 10 times there. Were eight.
26:39
John C Dvorak: Well, it says seven and six. It wasn't even
26:41
that it was
26:45
Adam Curry: what? Who knows what he was thinking?
26:49
John C Dvorak: Well, then there's this this one here,
26:50
which is funnier. And he did. He says it twice to make sure it's
26:53
even that you don't miss it.
26:55
Unknown: More to show I really, it's all my fault. Well, look, I
27:01
think we got a good job report. I'm happy to report that our
27:04
economy has created over 300,000 new jobs last month. And that's
27:09
on top of a half a million jobs we added the month before. All
27:14
total, we've created more than 12,000 12,000 jobs since it took
27:18
office. nearly 8000 of the manufacturing jobs. That means
27:23
overall, we've created more jobs in two years than any
27:26
ministration has created in the first four years. And I think
27:30
all this matters. It's no accident.
27:32
Adam Curry: No. Goodness. You're still mass bumping.
27:40
John C Dvorak: I don't know why. Oh, sorry. That was my fault.
27:42
Now. I knew I did that. I've just got to be careful. Well,
27:44
the job Oh, that's Biden's ability to capitalize. Yeah.
27:49
Adam Curry: Well, jobs are going to change. Pretty soon. You're
27:52
gonna have a lot more unemployed. I've been following
27:54
the Silicon Valley Bank. closure.
27:58
John C Dvorak: I wouldn't say quite a lot of people are
28:00
blaming Peter Thiel. Did you get that far?
28:02
Adam Curry: Oh, I got much further than that. Oh, would
28:04
take us there. Okay. Well, first of all, whenever I get an email
28:09
from Andrew Horowitz saying yeah, this could be pretty big.
28:12
I pay attention on Horowitz he's a pretty level headed guy. Cool.
28:17
Yeah. He doesn't really go too nuts. Well, I have two reports.
28:21
And then we can we and I 100%. five by five agree that Peter
28:25
Thiel started the bank run. But let's listen to some of the
28:29
mainstream reporting. Here's ABC, from
28:31
Unknown: New York to California today panicked customers
28:34
scrambling to pull their money out of Silicon Valley Banks,
28:38
only to find them close all our money's
28:41
in the bank. I don't know how we're gonna do our payroll. I
28:44
don't know what we're gonna do. Now.
28:45
It's the biggest bank failure since the 2008. Financial
28:49
crisis. Regulators this morning, shutting down and seizing the
28:52
assets of the bank, a go to lender to the tech industry.
28:56
Many of those businesses today cut off from their cash, I hope
28:59
to get most of it back. But that's definitely concerned. It
29:02
all came crashing down in just 48 hours, as the bank tried to
29:06
shore up its finances. The panic only spread on Wall Street, the
29:10
bank stock plunged and customers started pulling their money out.
29:14
Once that happens, it's just inevitable it's going to fail.
29:16
high interest rates have left many tech companies with less
29:19
cash on hand, forcing them to withdraw more to meet their
29:22
expenses.
29:23
This is a bank, perhaps a handful of banks that are
29:28
getting nailed by the fallout from the from the problem the
29:31
tech sector. And it's not a economy wide or a banking system
29:36
wide
29:36
problem. We pressed the White House on what this means for the
29:39
tech world. How concerned are you that we could see a ripple
29:43
effect just throughout this specific sector? I just want to
29:45
re emphasize that we
29:47
are in a fundamentally different position that, you know with the
29:51
reforms of the global financial crisis of 2007 2008 we've put in
29:56
place stress tests and other tools that our regulators have i
30:00
to provide more resilience to our banking system.
30:02
Adam Curry: Alright, so what happened here is a is not crypto
30:07
related, although there are some there's some exposure there with
30:10
a stable coin USDC, which I fully expect to collapse because
30:14
stable coins are crap. What happened here is, is really
30:21
Yeah, the big banks the big for too big to fail, they had to
30:25
over capitalize, they've been stressed tested, but all the
30:28
other regional banks, smaller banks like Silicon Valley Bank,
30:32
they actually argued the the CEO of Silicon Valley Bank, argued
30:38
to weaken regulations. And I believe since COVID, they didn't
30:42
even have to have 10% of reserves. And the biggest
30:47
problem for that for that was is almost a classic idiot bank move
30:51
is they invested in bonds that you have to hold to maturity,
30:58
htm is what it's called. I mean, you can't just sell them off. So
31:01
they had a lot of these bonds, which are because the interest
31:04
rates have gone up so quickly. And as we know, prices of bonds
31:08
work inversely to interest rates, that means they're worth
31:11
less money if you want to go and sell them. And this went so
31:15
fast, which is what what our Federal Reserve has been doing,
31:20
that they found themselves overexposed, like $1.8 billion,
31:24
and they started selling these unprofitable bombs. That's when
31:29
Peter Thiel on Wednesday, I think told all of his portfolio
31:33
companies, so I don't know how many of those are, it could be
31:36
10, could be 20, could be 100. But these are companies that
31:38
he's invested in either directly or through maybe one of the
31:42
venture capital firms. He started calling everybody say,
31:45
take your money out, take your money out, take your money out,
31:47
that is what triggered an actual run on the bank when everyone's
31:51
going, Oh, crap, let's take our money out. And they didn't have
31:55
the cash on hand, they were $900 million short and just couldn't
31:59
give anybody the cash. This was, I guess, kind of expected the
32:03
regulars regulators came in and shut it down. And the way these
32:08
things work is if you every bank account in America has an FDIC
32:12
Bank, which I think they all are, they are insured up to
32:16
$250,000 per account. So on Monday, if you had a million
32:20
dollars in an account, you'll get 250,000. At minimum, that's
32:24
that's what's going to end whatever else happens. We're
32:26
going to see before we move any further into some of the
32:30
details. The way Silicon Valley works, and I've witnessed this
32:35
twice. Once when I took my company public in 1996. We went
32:42
we took it public with a brown shoe small New York firm, but we
32:46
went around to the big the big companies. And they immediately
32:49
bring in Wilson Sonsini, which is Silicon Valley's law firm,
32:55
very, very famous, I think the as at Wilson Sonsini, who's kind
32:59
of like called the godfather of Silicon Valley and one of the
33:01
two, you may know that better than I do. And that's, you know,
33:04
and they'll, they'll run, you know, deals through, they'll
33:07
play on both sides of deals. It's incredible what a what kind
33:11
of monopoly they have. But when we raise money from Sequoia
33:16
Capital, Kleiner Perkins shirt below raunchy rock Sriram. But
33:20
the main, the main two were Sequoia and Kleiner Perkins,
33:23
immediately, as a covenant in the deal. And you're going to
33:27
bank at Silicon Valley Bank. And if you remember you, and I
33:31
bought a lot of lunches and wine with an SVB credit card. And so
33:39
the way it kind of works is they have their money at SVB. Or at
33:44
least chunks of it. And you know, okay, we're gonna raise
33:47
this money, you get the money, and it really is just
33:49
transferred from one Silicon Valley Bank account to the next
33:52
one. And because you're in this trusted circle, which the bank
33:57
connects everybody, you can then get easy debt financing. Oh, you
34:00
need a $2 million line of credit, no problem. And so it's
34:04
very incestuous. And I'm pretty sure a lot of the owners, the
34:09
bank shareholders, the bank were the same people. So a lot of
34:14
yeah, just incestuous exposure. And because of this, they say
34:19
50%, I would say, maybe 75% of every single venture capital
34:25
back for him, not just in Silicon Valley. We're talking
34:28
firms in Sweden, in Denmark, in the Netherlands, in the UK,
34:33
everywhere. If you raise money through a big event, not even a
34:37
big one, but one of the 350 or 400 venture capital firms,
34:41
you're going to have a bank account of Silicon Valley. So
34:45
this is going to create a large culling of the heard in time.
34:50
Yeah, because payroll coming up on the 15th payroll money had
34:55
already been sent into Silicon Valley Bank or sent or supposed
34:58
to be sent from it to the payroll companies, they didn't
35:01
go out. So and so now. People aren't going to get paid.
35:06
Obviously, there's a lot of companies that are, I'd say the
35:09
majority of venture capital backed companies are not
35:12
profitable. They had no they, they already had to fire people
35:16
rein stuff in because No, it's going to be tough if you're
35:20
based on advertising and may not make any advertising money for
35:23
the next four years. So how are you going to get through they
35:26
got a line of credit from Silicon Valley Bank, that's
35:28
everything's dried up. So we're gonna see firms collapsing in
35:33
the next few days in the next few weeks. Let's go to CBS.
35:36
Unknown: Following the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank this
35:39
week, officials in Washington are expressing concern
35:42
when banks experience financial losses, it is and should be a
35:47
matter of concern.
35:49
Silicon Valley Bank is the 16th largest in the country, with
35:53
$209 billion in total assets late last year. According to the
35:58
FDIC, the bank is known for serving tech startups and
36:02
venture capital firms
36:03
Silicon Valley Bank failed largely because of its links to
36:07
the tech industry, because technical getting nailed by
36:12
sorry.
36:13
John C Dvorak: Says It failed because of its links to the tech
36:16
industry.
36:17
Adam Curry: Oh no, no, you're gonna hear every single boat
36:19
bull crap. You're gonna hear all kinds of bullshit stuff in the
36:23
next few days,
36:24
Unknown: largely because of its links to the tech industry,
36:28
because tech is getting nailed by all the rising interest rates
36:33
and changing consumer preferences.
36:36
Regulators shut down the bank. Do you want to
36:38
Adam Curry: want to call out I'm happy to stop you want to
36:40
comment?
36:40
John C Dvorak: No, I'm just saying this guy's whoever this
36:42
analyst is is full of crap. Surprise, surprise,
36:45
Unknown: a rising interest rates and changing consumer
36:48
preferences.
36:49
On Friday, state regulators shut down the bank transferring
36:52
control of his assets to a new institution controlled by the
36:56
FDIC. In a statement, the agency said customers would be able to
37:00
access their funds no later than Monday morning. But it only
37:04
insurance deposits up to $250,000. The bank serves some
37:09
major companies like Roku, Pinterest, Shopify and Etsy,
37:14
which warn sellers that some deposits may be delayed, small
37:17
business owner Amber fields now swept up in the chaos,
37:21
and another three are in small business, I get this in my home,
37:25
those funds, feed my family and
37:27
pay my bills. The effect is also being felt overseas, with
37:31
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu saying his government
37:34
will take steps to assist businesses that are impacted.
37:38
Adam Curry: Ah, yes, I should have mentioned Israeli companies
37:40
as well. Of course, there's a lot of investment from Silicon
37:43
Valley and Israeli companies. So it's going to it's going to
37:45
affect a lot. Now, here's a couple of fun, fun little
37:48
things. Silicon Valley Bank CEO Greg Becker. He actually until
37:54
this happened, he was on the board of directors for the San
37:58
Francisco Federal Reserve Bank. The what is it? The what's the
38:05
guy's name? The who was it? I think the not maybe the Chief
38:13
Operating Officer. Or maybe Yeah, I think was the chief
38:18
operating officer. He actually was at Lehman Brothers, when it
38:22
collapsed. So you know, there was just they were very involved
38:25
in diversity, equity inclusion focused on lots of important
38:29
things like that. And meanwhile, they just weren't exposed to all
38:34
kinds of problems. Now, what this also did and hasn't been
38:38
mentioned that much, but will be is it made people around
38:42
America, certainly nervous about regional banks and regional
38:45
banks, just like Silicon Valley Bank, did not have to have the
38:48
same type of over capitalization. That the big,
38:53
too big to fail banks have. And so there's their stocks were
38:56
down, you will see what happens. But what is happening this
39:00
weekend, as people are, you know, their bank runs happen
39:03
because people have no faith, it may not even be an actual
39:06
problem with the bank. So if people just saying all weekend
39:10
long, oh, man, you know, the regional bank, you go down, but
39:13
to get your money out of the bank, there could be a run on
39:15
regional banks. And that could actually be very serious. But
39:19
it's not because there's necessarily anything wrong. Now
39:23
we go to CNN, who literally could not get anyone better than
39:26
Robert Reich. To explain it to us.
39:29
Unknown: What does this mean for people outside of Silicon Valley
39:33
Bank? Universe? What does it mean for the average borrower,
39:37
if anything?
39:39
So far, it doesn't mean anything. But the big question
39:42
is one of contagion. That is what we saw in 2008 was when one
39:47
big bank, a couple of others started to fail, could not pay
39:52
their depositors could not actually pay up what they owed.
39:56
They were closed, and regulators had to And moving very, very
40:00
quickly about we ended up with a financial crisis. Because of you
40:06
know, one vague banking card easily starts tipping over other
40:10
cards, it's a house of cards. Now, we don't know yet about
40:13
contagion, we what we do know is that this bank was obviously
40:18
over extended. And this is related to the Fed because as
40:22
interest rates went up, and as and this bank was lending to a
40:25
lot of startups, this bank simply could not handle it. I
40:29
think that this is the biggest economic news today, it is not
40:34
this jobs report, the Drudge Report was good. And it's kind
40:38
of signals to me a soft landing. But I think that in terms of
40:41
what the Fed is going to do, this bank implosion of this
40:46
potential contagion may reverse Jerome Pauwels direction, it may
40:53
lead to, instead of a half a point increase at the March
40:57
meeting, it may lead to no increase at all. In fact, it's
41:01
even conceivable that interest rates start dropping at the fear
41:05
that we're going to be in deep trouble.
41:08
Adam Curry: So I'm sure this is what a lot of people certainly
41:11
in the tech sector would love, hey, let's get that quantitative
41:15
easing, let's get money cheaper. Again, we need to have cheap
41:18
money, which of course will only result in higher inflation for
41:22
you know, you for the prices for your, your groceries, etc. And
41:26
so now we're in the what are we going to do phase and we've got,
41:31
typically, you know, they can find a buyer for bank like this,
41:35
like JPMorgan Chase would be a good one that get it for for
41:38
almost nothing. And anyone who had money in there might lose
41:43
10%, maybe more. You know, that depends on the deal that they
41:47
cut. But already, Washington and Silicon Valley are talking about
41:54
a special vehicle, the Federal Reserve, we need a bailout. This
41:59
is this is going to be interesting. If if the Federal
42:04
Reserve forces, you know, however they do that forces a
42:09
bailout. You know, and this is really only it's only $100
42:14
billion. I mean, you know, the money we gave, so called gave to
42:17
Ukraine could fix this problem. But if you start going down that
42:22
road, you know, who knows where it's going to end up,
42:24
Unknown: you have advocated for the Fed to stop increasing the
42:28
interest rate why we before this issue with Silicon Valley Bank,
42:33
as simply because I don't see any wage price. Inflation wages,
42:38
according to Jerome Powell are pushing up prices. Well, that's
42:41
simply not the case. Look at today's report, for example, we
42:45
are seeing the smallest wage increase in over a year, prices
42:49
continue to rise. That is absolutely true. But wages are
42:53
not pushing them up. It's not that workers are doing so
42:55
wonderfully well. But what's pushing up many prices
42:58
domestically in big companies that want to increase their
43:02
profit margins. And so they have monopolies or near monopolies
43:06
oligopolies. They are using the opportunity using inflation as
43:10
an excuse to put up their prices. So this is at its at its
43:14
bottom here. It really is an antitrust monopolization issue.
43:18
It is not a Fed interest rate problem.
43:23
Adam Curry: The venture capital firms, 350 of them have written
43:27
an open letter. Say that hey, you know, we'll work with any
43:30
new owner if you find one. But we get stories like this. More
43:35
than 60%. John, of community solar financing involves Silicon
43:41
Valley Bank, we will not be able to stop climate change if these
43:44
companies go out of business. Oh, yeah. Good one. Oh, yeah.
43:47
Oh, yeah. Wait for it. You can just wait for that to happen.
43:51
It's like, oh, no, these are none of these companies are
43:54
making any money. And they're not supposed to. That's why
43:56
they're venture funded. But it also may just be a great moment
44:00
for the venture capital money companies to write off a whole
44:04
bunch of really bad investments because everyone's just looking
44:07
for, you know, it's a crapshoot. Hey, let me get the next
44:10
unicorn. Yeah, we'll invest in that and invest in this. It's
44:13
kind of it's been very fun to watch Jason Calacanis. He's now
44:17
tweeting in all caps. He's beside himself. Because he, you
44:22
know, he, he's like an angel investor, and his whole it's a
44:28
very simple process, but basically, he gets people to
44:32
give him money, he invest their money, and then he pitches those
44:36
companies to actual venture capital firms. I'm kind of
44:40
giving an abbreviation. So he, he's holding a bag, a machine,
44:45
not personally, but his investors are gonna be holding a
44:47
big bag of crap. Now, when something like this happens, I
44:52
am typically all ready to jump in and say hi, this is how they
44:57
introduced the central bank digital currency. You do not
45:02
have to do that. Because everyone else is doing it for me
45:05
like General Flynn,
45:07
Unknown: I want people to go read executive order 14067
45:11
Executive Order 14067 signed by Uncle Joe, the Eighth of March
45:17
of 22. And it went into effect 13 December 2022. So just this
45:22
past summer, and there are already corporations and
45:27
elements of our US government that are already beta testing
45:29
what's called Central Bank, digital currency, Central Bank,
45:33
digital currency. That's what that executive order is all
45:36
about.
45:36
Adam Curry: And this was accentuated on Friday on Tucker
45:40
show, which I do not watch anymore, but the people sent me
45:44
the clip. So how could I avoid Kristi, noem? Who was the
45:47
governor of what is she South Dakota? I think she saw it.
45:50
Yeah. And she mentioned that the UCC update. In fact, Article
45:56
Nine UCC is the universal commercial code. I think it's
46:01
something that originates with lobbyist in Washington, DC, it
46:05
goes to the states, the states have to ratify it, you know,
46:10
states just like any other politician, you know, Hey, you
46:13
want what I just ratified this, how much you give me for my
46:15
reelection campaign. 10 grand, okay, fine. It's too complicated
46:18
to read. Anyway, she she vetoed this in the South Dakota, bill
46:25
that was passed by the lawmakers,
46:26
Unknown: I became aware of this bill, it wasn't introduced until
46:30
almost halfway through our legislative session, we started
46:32
reading through this bill that was over 110 pages long, it was
46:36
sold as an update to the guidelines of the universal
46:39
Commercial Code backed by all of our financial institutions, or
46:44
banks. As we started reading through it, we saw the section
46:48
of the bill that changed the definition of currency. And
46:50
essentially what it did was paved the way for a government
46:53
led cbdc. And it also banned any other form of cryptocurrency or
46:59
Bitcoin or digital currency that existed. So for me, it very
47:04
clearly was a threat to our freedom. In South Dakota, we are
47:07
the session that completes its business earliest in the year,
47:11
we are the first ones to really look at this bill and find out
47:14
the truth of what's in it. And I did veto that bill. I'm asking
47:18
my legislators to change their minds, to make the right
47:21
decision and help me kill this bill once and for all. But I'm
47:24
telling you attacker, we've got the same language coming to over
47:27
20 other states, I believe, it's to pave the way for the federal
47:30
government to control our currency and thus control
47:33
people, it should be alarming to everyone and it's being sold as
47:37
a UCC guidelines update, there's no rush to do this. We need to
47:41
be smart and make sure that we're doing what we can to
47:44
protect people. I find it ironic that we also are having this
47:47
discussion at the same time, we have banks and credit card
47:49
companies talking about coding gun and ammunition in a separate
47:54
code so they can track it. So not only can they tie these two
47:57
issues together, if the government doesn't approve of
48:00
what you're purchasing, if they have the only form of digital
48:03
currency out there, and that is endorsed and utilized in the
48:05
country, they can control how you spend that money and does
48:08
take away all your freedom.
48:11
Adam Curry: So from a perspective of what does that
48:15
mean for you at home? First of all, don't panic. If you have
48:18
more than $250,000. In one bank account, what are you doing?
48:22
Someone should have advised you differently. So I think the FDIC
48:25
insurance, although there was if you recall, about a year and a
48:30
half, during COVID, there was a whole shuffle at the top of the
48:34
FDIC, they kicked out the chairman of the board and they
48:37
brought in some woke crazy people. So who knows what that
48:40
what's going on there. If this could be a part of anything? I
48:42
don't know. There's I don't I do not think this is going to be
48:47
the introduction of central bank, digital currency this
48:49
particular moment, it's possible you could go to sleep, it's
48:53
great that happens over the weekend. All these things are
48:55
always supposed to happen over the weekend, you might wake up
48:58
with instead of dollars Fetty coin or $50. It wouldn't mean
49:01
that much to you. Except of course for the obvious control
49:04
that can be implemented. It is interesting as a side note that
49:08
Elon Musk has openly been entertaining the idea of may may
49:12
be buying Silicon Valley Bank, I don't think he will, it seems
49:15
like a hassle. He's getting his licenses to do so anyway to
49:19
create the x.com that he's always dreamed of. But that
49:22
would be an interesting, an interesting thing for it to
49:26
happen. So just sit tight and don't panic is what I would say
49:30
aye, aye. But it's clear that we're being set up for something
49:35
like this in the future. And that's my report.
49:40
John C Dvorak: Well, it's a good report. I don't think we're
49:42
being set up for anything necessarily. I just think this
49:44
was a stupid idea to have everything concentrated in this
49:48
one SIV be because of the entire valley being somewhat corrupt in
49:53
that manner. What's the point of having every company in Silicon
49:57
Valley and every individual and every payroll go through just
50:00
one single bank without backup,
50:03
Adam Curry: we may we may find out who knows I mean you don't
50:06
really know but it
50:07
John C Dvorak: was just got to be corruption involved. There's
50:09
no other possibility of course,
50:11
Adam Curry: of course. And it was so I was Why
50:14
John C Dvorak: should Why should my venture capitalists tell me
50:16
what bank to work with? Do you want
50:18
Adam Curry: the money son? We had covenants in our deal. We
50:22
had time saying but why? Well, because I think that they were
50:25
all they were shareholders.
50:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that would be it. That's called corruption.
50:33
Adam Curry: Called coercion. I don't know if it's corruption,
50:35
but I don't know. We'll see how bad it will certainly be a
50:39
calling of a lot of crap that needed to go anyway. It
50:43
simultaneously helps the Federal Reserve with exactly what
50:46
they've been complaining about like well, you know, the job
50:49
markets too strong we got to have more unemployment. Maybe
50:52
this will help. I don't know how many people will be unemployed
50:55
where the collapse of many companies will know in 60 days
50:59
and maybe even less I think this will be the story for the next
51:02
week. And and we'll just have to pay attention because it's very
51:07
possible someone or some people will be really pushing the fear
51:13
and I don't see you know what, tonight at the Oscars if there's
51:17
a lot of Silicon Valley Bank jokes, then you'll know that
51:20
it's coming
51:22
John C Dvorak: I don't think they can deliver a joke
51:26
Adam Curry: they can change the carpet
51:29
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think carpet was on sale to call this
51:35
dog shit brown carpet champagne we got it she
51:39
Adam Curry: champagne you my dear friend Sean Panya I if
51:43
they're gonna do anything wild with Central Bank digital
51:46
currency at whatever level whatever version it won't happen
51:49
until the Ukraine war is over. I think that's that's that's what
51:54
I'm waiting for.
51:56
John C Dvorak: Well, let's listen to some you look Ukraine
51:59
clips I have a bunch Oh good. The word logistics clips these
52:03
are all this is actually I consider these these five clips
52:06
to be an excellent backgrounder on Well, I don't know what
52:10
they're trying to accomplish. It seems as though they're looking
52:13
at this war some way to stress tested the the defense industry
52:19
in some way. Oh, because they can't make enough stuff. For
52:23
these Ukrainians. These guys are unbelievable, but let's go with
52:26
Ukraine war of logistics. One been
52:28
Unknown: 80 years since a war with logistics on this
52:31
industrial scale. Ukraine fires as many 155 millimeter artillery
52:36
rounds and about
52:37
Adam Curry: horses from who did this report because I liked that
52:39
editing right off the bat.
52:40
John C Dvorak: This is that may have been me. This is NPR alle
52:45
Unknown: Ukraine fires as many 145 times
52:49
John C Dvorak: throughout this report, there are scattered some
52:54
really new explosions, rocket launchers and machine guns. And
53:00
he's talking to one guy in an office and you're hearing this
53:03
stuff. Psycho Washington DC is under attack.
53:07
Adam Curry: Wait, I had I had this that's that's the new
53:14
Ukraine war sound effect we picked up earlier so we'll see
53:17
if they use that one.
53:18
Unknown: Ukraine fires as many 155 millimeter artillery rounds
53:22
in about five days, as the US produces in a month. Many of
53:26
them are forged finished at 1500 degrees and painted here and
53:32
1950s factory in Scranton, Pennsylvania. The machinery is
53:37
decades old. But until now it's suited us needs Iraq and
53:41
Afghanistan. We're not dueling artillery battles. But today,
53:48
the 20,000 artillery shells the plant creates every 30 days is a
53:51
fraction of Ukraine's needs. Ukraine's defense minister
53:55
Alexei Resnikoff recently wrote to the European Union and let
53:58
her describe to PBS news hour that Ukraine can only fire 1/5
54:02
of what it could because of munition shortages. We saw that
54:06
ourselves on the outskirts of Baku in eastern Ukraine. This
54:11
team told us they did not have enough artillery to fire
54:14
constantly Oleksandr commands and artillery unit in the 93rd
54:18
brigade
54:19
Do you have what you
54:20
need in order to complete this fight?
54:23
Unless yet? We do have equipment but we need more. And we need
54:27
more and more and more because they won't stop until we stop
54:31
them.
54:32
The current rate of Ukraine's ammunition expenditure is many
54:36
times higher than our current rate of production.
54:41
Last month, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said
54:43
defense industry couldn't deliver fast enough and how to
54:46
expand quickly.
54:48
This is now becoming a grinding war or attrition. And the war of
54:52
attrition is a war over logistics.
54:55
Adam Curry: Yeah, no one wants to pony up we just we're just
54:57
not making them the old am making
55:00
John C Dvorak: Opening up as much as we can in Scranton, now
55:04
the
55:05
Adam Curry: president's home
55:07
John C Dvorak: so what's the what's the last war of attrition
55:13
that we've had in the last 100 years?
55:16
Adam Curry: What is in this context? What does attrition
55:19
mean?
55:20
John C Dvorak: That means you just keep killing people Iraq
55:25
there at World War One that was the classic war of attrition
55:30
there was nothing no strategy there wasn't any just killing
55:34
everybody as fast as you can they kill as many as you can and
55:37
they can they kill as many as they can you kill as many as you
55:40
can. And that's the attrition we're talking about people. So
55:44
this is a this is basically a war of well of war of attrition,
55:49
where you just keep killing this is a killing mess. This is a
55:52
world war one style. outbreak or we
55:56
Adam Curry: call it World War 1.5. Okay, sorry, I didn't mean
56:02
to piss you off.
56:04
John C Dvorak: Worldwide domain. That's the SP that people listen
56:06
to the show.
56:08
Adam Curry: I wonder how those bombs sound at 2x speed. Pew
56:11
pew, pew.
56:13
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's exactly what they sound like. So
56:16
right there. He's telling us that this is a version of World
56:20
War One. Don't the world then did last great war, the last
56:24
war. I mean, this is unbelievable. It's given it
56:27
away. Okay, let's go to clip two sorry. The
56:30
Unknown: US Defense industrial base is not fully prepared to
56:35
conduct an industrial style war or to deter that kind of war.
56:40
SETH JONES directs the international security program
56:43
at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, and
56:46
recently wrote a report about a shortage of material and
56:49
materials in a wartime environment.
56:52
The US has had an operational plan for major war, but I think
56:56
what hasn't happened is to tie those plans directly to
57:00
acquisitions needs right now.
57:03
Already, the US has sent from its stockpiles more than $32
57:06
billion worth of weapons, including more than a million
57:09
155 millimeter shells, 1600 shoulder fired Stinger anti
57:14
aircraft missiles, 8500 javelin, anti tank weapons 1800 Phoenix
57:20
ghost drones and 38 High Mobility Artillery Rocket
57:23
systems
57:24
what the US has been able to do is use a range of stockpiles of
57:29
weapons. The challenge, though, is that a number of those
57:32
stockpiles are now decreasing, and the production lines are
57:36
rising to levels that we need them for future contingencies.
57:42
It's not only about Ukraine, the military always plans for
57:45
contingencies including a war in the Pacific with China. What was
57:49
Adam Curry: that thing that just slid off there? That sounded
57:52
like a
57:53
John C Dvorak: like time Mars probably. So we've given them a
57:58
million shells. And they're telling us is not enough. We
58:03
need five times more. They've shot a million shells. It were
58:10
to watch a million shells. Yes,
58:14
Adam Curry: a million a million I tell you, why not.
58:23
John C Dvorak: Okay, let's go to clip three.
58:25
Unknown: And now the defense department is spending billions
58:28
to increase production, including modernizing the
58:31
Scranton plant, as seen in these before and after photos.
58:35
Already, production has increased nearly 50%. Overall,
58:39
the army hopes to increase artillery production 500% In the
58:43
next two years, the largest production expansion since the
58:46
Korean War, build a plant as the Undersecretary of Defense for
58:50
Acquisition and sustainment. I spoke to him on Wednesday, and
58:54
began by asking him whether the West could meet Ukraine's needs
58:57
for artillery,
58:58
we will do our best and we have been doing our best to meet the
59:01
demand as it comes in. And, of course, the devils in the
59:03
details as to which caliber but yes, the piece showed the 155
59:08
millimeter we have already funded the factory at
59:11
significant amounts to get their production rate ultimately up at
59:14
five times that amount, which is almost unprecedented and it's
59:17
not just producing But what we're also buying and getting
59:20
from around the world and different stocks to supply with
59:22
the Ukrainians need every day. We try to move something to the
59:26
left whether it's finding equipment and another country we
59:28
can ship in, or anything we can do to find stocks as we
59:31
just saw Ukrainian soldiers just a few weeks ago I started back
59:33
when they told me they didn't have enough that was an
59:36
artillery piece and older artillery piece. Soviet era I
59:39
was with another mortar unit. They said they didn't have
59:41
enough mortars also firing Soviet era mortars This isn't
59:45
only about American European weapons, it's also about getting
59:48
Ukraine older weapons which many other units still use, right?
59:51
That's exactly right. It's a constant challenge of do we find
59:55
or produce the old Soviet or Russian equipment? Or do we give
59:58
them the new equipment and And that's we go through that every
1:00:01
day.
1:00:01
Adam Curry: It kind of reminds me in the Netherlands, as you
1:00:04
know, on December 31, you can go pick up your pre purchase
1:00:09
fireworks and you can legally set well, they changed the rules
1:00:13
a bit this year, but you can legally set it off for New
1:00:17
Year's Eve. And it's like, you know, we'd go and we'd have our
1:00:21
parents, you know, vouch for us, or whatever we get, we get our
1:00:24
big bag, and we but of course, we'd have that a week in
1:00:27
advance, and we'd be shooting stuff off. And then it's just
1:00:30
like, then it's just on the 31st all day long, just as much as
1:00:34
you can just write that from our mind my mind than just blowing
1:00:39
stuff up. But it's it's doing nothing. It's it's just blowing
1:00:45
it. Are they just blowing up our stockpiles?
1:00:47
John C Dvorak: That's what it looks like.
1:00:49
Adam Curry: So what happens if China wants to fight us? We got
1:00:51
nothing.
1:00:54
John C Dvorak: to crank it up. Yeah. Well,
1:00:56
Adam Curry: then we'll crank it up. No, this is this makes no
1:01:01
sense.
1:01:01
John C Dvorak: Well, they make the point that the Korean War we
1:01:05
had that we cranked it up. So I looked at the military budget
1:01:09
for the Korean War. And during that era, the military budget
1:01:13
for the United States during that when we had it cranked up
1:01:15
because of the Korean War. The military budget was 44 point 9
1:01:20
billion, which is less you know, less is this bit in the back of
1:01:25
a list that's balanced it for inflation. Does it make it
1:01:30
Adam Curry: 400,000? Maybe even 400 400? million? Yeah, that's
1:01:33
still half half of our current budget.
1:01:35
John C Dvorak: Yeah, less than half. But that boy, that's what
1:01:39
we're cranking it up. But
1:01:40
Adam Curry: that budget is not going into ammunition. I look at
1:01:43
the email every day, I saw another one $3 billion to Hawaii
1:01:49
to build a dry dock. Okay, I'm sure we need it. Now, that just
1:01:55
it's just being spent on junk. Not will not ammo,
1:02:03
John C Dvorak: Glarus, good except for
1:02:04
Unknown: but on air defense, specifically, I've been told
1:02:06
they're running out of s 300, parts weapons all over the
1:02:09
world. And so therefore, they have to go to West,
1:02:11
I think I think for air defenses, and frankly, for
1:02:13
ground forces, what you're seeing is having to go from the
1:02:17
old Soviet systems to almost certainly western systems for
1:02:20
the reasons you said.
1:02:21
And this is all of course, before we get to Ukraine Spring
1:02:24
Offensive, you are trying to figure out how to get all these
1:02:27
armored vehicles and their parts into Ukraine. How do you know
1:02:30
that they'll have enough of those munitions, those parts,
1:02:34
those modern weapons, to be able to launch some kind of counter
1:02:36
offensive in the coming week, what
1:02:37
we're doing is working with the Germans, the poles and the other
1:02:40
countries, when we have a shortfall in parts save for a
1:02:43
certain version of leopards to scour and find those parts, even
1:02:46
to the extent we can find advanced manufacturing to 3d
1:02:48
print. So we're working on each one. And the idea is to make
1:02:52
sure that there are enough parts to sustain for each model. Why
1:02:55
not
1:02:55
give Ukraine the longer range weapon known as the attack them,
1:02:58
which would fly 180 miles that it's been requested that so far,
1:03:02
the administration has refused? Yeah,
1:03:04
it's been a policy decision to date that the long range weapons
1:03:08
which we have been providing, which is about an 80 Kilometer
1:03:10
precision guided weapon is sufficient and range for the
1:03:13
targets that they have, I think for when you get into types of
1:03:17
capabilities are well beyond it, you get into policy issues, and
1:03:21
sustainment issues of whether or not it's an escalatory thing.
1:03:24
If I could, though, intelligence officials told me that
1:03:26
specifically the capacity of the attacker and the range of the
1:03:30
attack and is a red line for the Kremlin in terms of what Ukraine
1:03:33
would be able to hit if it were to use that weapon in Russia.
1:03:37
But why is that a concern given that Ukraine has promised not to
1:03:40
use American weapons inside Russia? Like we're not,
1:03:44
John C Dvorak: Oh, no. Promise not to use it?
1:03:47
Adam Curry: We're not going to send anything to Moscow.
1:03:56
So those trusted Yeah, we should trust them when they say that we
1:03:59
should just try.
1:04:00
John C Dvorak: Yeah, they promise. We'll just trust them.
1:04:02
Because they've never been known for the dishonest ever,
1:04:06
Adam Curry: ever. It's Ukraine. You can trust Ukraine? That's
1:04:09
not correct. So
1:04:09
John C Dvorak: it sounds like that there. You're still using
1:04:11
Soviet gear that we have to supply parts for? Yeah. And we
1:04:15
have to scrounge the parts from all over the place. And we even
1:04:19
have to put the Soviet gear we have to, to 3d print some of
1:04:25
these things, which probably don't have templates,
1:04:27
necessarily, but I'm sure there's enough engineers around,
1:04:30
they can 3d print some of these parts, which is the future. And
1:04:36
it's just a fiasco at this point. But at least there's some
1:04:42
kind of light at the end of the tunnel, maybe. But you have to
1:04:46
listen to this clip. And you can kind of tell that what the
1:04:50
Ukrainians would think is not necessarily what we're thinking
1:04:53
how this thing comes to an end, which you think is going to be
1:04:56
sooner than later and I'm not going to disagree with that, but
1:04:59
I'm not totally convinced. But there is a little guy, there's a
1:05:02
funny little gag at the end of this guy, this assistant,
1:05:07
defense guy. So here we go. Well, I
1:05:10
Unknown: think it's one of the concerns. I think there's
1:05:12
multiple concerns. And the other piece of it is what to what
1:05:15
extent it will make a big difference in the battle. And
1:05:17
those are all part of the calculation.
1:05:19
To what end? Are you trying to procure weapons for Ukraine to
1:05:24
receive all of its territory that it has lost since 2014.
1:05:28
We're providing everything we can that we believe they need.
1:05:31
And I would say this, we are going to be there with them
1:05:34
until it's over and as long as we need to, and not for the
1:05:38
least of which is that we think it's expensive. Now, if Putin
1:05:41
prevails, it'll be really expensive. And so this is really
1:05:44
that important. And we were going to provide her the
1:05:46
equipment they need
1:05:47
Ukraine argues they won't be over until it receives his
1:05:49
Crimea.
1:05:51
That that may be their view.
1:05:54
Adam Curry: That may be their view.
1:05:57
John C Dvorak: Play to the end again, and don't step on it
1:05:59
because he giggles
1:06:00
Adam Curry: Oh, oh, I didn't hear the giggle. I'm sorry, but
1:06:02
they need
1:06:02
Unknown: Ukraine arguing won't be over until it receives his
1:06:05
Crimea.
1:06:06
That that may be their view.
1:06:10
Adam Curry: Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Well, already Solinsky was
1:06:14
denied appearing in the Oscar ceremony tonight.
1:06:18
John C Dvorak: Yes, good for them.
1:06:20
Adam Curry: Well, here's what I like about the story. He has an
1:06:23
agent William Morris entertainment pleated made a
1:06:27
plea to the academy to spotlight Zelinsky
1:06:31
John C Dvorak: he hasn't we can't even get a mortgage agent
1:06:34
I mean, Mike
1:06:34
Adam Curry: Simpson Hey, Mike Simpson William mortgage eight
1:06:37
entertainment agent. What? Thank you, we should be able to get
1:06:42
you as a as an agent for John's bit part.
1:06:46
John C Dvorak: And minify even that yeah, there you go.
1:06:48
Adam Curry: Admitted money at minimum.
1:06:50
John C Dvorak: Unbelievable that this guy has the gall. He also
1:06:54
they also tell you I'm using an agent I think is funny, but the
1:06:57
gall it takes Hey, we have our own we're doing something here a
1:07:03
you know, it's like, what do you want to get involved with the
1:07:06
it's an award show? Yeah.
1:07:09
Adam Curry: Well, I'm telling you, I My feeling is it'll be
1:07:13
all Silicon Valley jokes tonight about Silicon Valley Bank jokes.
1:07:17
I will bet you $1 Now okay, well, we're getting a lot of
1:07:20
dollars here. Okay. $1 You see, I haven't gotten
1:07:23
John C Dvorak: one yet. Okay. $1 right. $1 that this will be easy
1:07:28
to do. That. Will if there is any jokes, there'll be less than
1:07:32
five total.
1:07:33
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no. What do you mean? What did you
1:07:37
say? You're pegging it at five. I have to have five jokes about
1:07:40
that to win.
1:07:40
John C Dvorak: Oh, everything's gonna be about Silicon Valley
1:07:43
jokes. Well, blah, blah. But he meets on one joke is counts.
1:07:49
Adam Curry: Let's say three.
1:07:53
John C Dvorak: Okay, I'll take your five. I'm not afraid.
1:07:55
You're gonna take the five. I'm gonna take the five. I was just
1:07:58
about to give into the three. Drop the ball. I'm gonna take
1:08:01
the
1:08:01
Adam Curry: five. But I'll have to write you a check for my
1:08:03
Silicon Valley Bank Account. Bloomberg came up with an
1:08:08
interesting little ditty the other day. Yeah, EU has no clue
1:08:13
of whereabouts of 86% of frozen Russian bank central bank
1:08:17
assets. You know, there's a $300 billion that was supposedly
1:08:22
frozen or scattered. They can't find it. They couldn't find more
1:08:25
than 36 point 4 billion. And then you have Medvedev. Medvedev
1:08:31
met Vijay Medvedev. He said, Oh, May I May I point out? They have
1:08:36
$300 billion worth of foreign assets frozen in Russia.
1:08:42
John C Dvorak: So that's a wash a quid
1:08:44
Adam Curry: pro quo. That's our wash. Yeah. It cancels each
1:08:47
other out. He says he did a happy coincidence. It would be
1:08:54
enough to recall recompense Russia for what might be stolen
1:08:57
from Russia. Well, that's kind of interesting. I didn't No one.
1:09:01
No one broadcast that. No, heaven forbid. Anyway, we're
1:09:05
still using evil Putin and Russia to try and capture the
1:09:10
rest of the countries in the EU sphere to try and get him into
1:09:15
NATO and try and get him into into the war. But you see what's
1:09:22
going on in Georgia, Moldova, though is the interesting one
1:09:25
is, you know, QQ one of our producers, he's from Moldova.
1:09:28
And he says, you know that the President of the woman who
1:09:32
thinks she's president or prime minister, isn't that guy
1:09:35
Moldova? No, Moldova is a woman I what am I say? Oh, I'm
1:09:38
thinking to Belarus, Moldova is a woman that, you know, but
1:09:42
she's all in on EU, but the Moldovans may not be all in on
1:09:48
EU and NATO. And here's Kirby reacting to a question from a
1:09:53
White House correspondent who I've never seen asked a question
1:09:56
before, and she looks Israeli in a way but I'm not sure where
1:10:00
she's from
1:10:01
Unknown: Lee has said that there was a Russian plot to sort of
1:10:05
overthrow her government and break Moldova's path to Europe.
1:10:09
It was something that President Solinsky himself had also warned
1:10:13
about. What is the US says assessment of this possible
1:10:18
plot? And more broadly, what is the concern about Russia's
1:10:22
attempts to sort of influence these got these pro European
1:10:27
governments in the region, even though it's right now focused on
1:10:30
Ukraine about other countries in the region?
1:10:33
So we'll see about that is deeply concerning reports.
1:10:41
Certainly not outside the bounds of Russian behavior. And we
1:10:48
absolutely stand with the modem Moldovan government and the
1:10:53
Moldovan people
1:10:54
we have no confirmation from US side of things
1:10:58
I know of no independent confirmation but we're certainly
1:11:00
not questioning their capacity the will of the of the Russians
1:11:06
and Mr. Putin to try to do that is perfectly right at page Iran
1:11:10
average playbook.
1:11:11
Adam Curry: Oh page numbers playbook Yeah, I was gonna was
1:11:13
talking about oh, he's gonna take over Moldova I don't think
1:11:18
I don't think Kirby was ready for this question. Because you
1:11:23
know, they're so focused on Georgia trying to make it look
1:11:26
like Russia and of course if there's a government in their
1:11:30
day to day wants nothing to do with the with the west they
1:11:33
don't want to be part of NATO or whatever they're sick and tired
1:11:37
of all this crap. Michigan Moldova. Just take a look at the
1:11:40
map. I'm gonna refresh my memory and will those in such a great
1:11:43
spot
1:11:45
John C Dvorak: so Moldova, if I'm not mistaken, has that
1:11:47
little strip of land as butted up against Ukraine? That is
1:11:51
correct. Considered Russian?
1:11:53
Adam Curry: Yes, it's on the southwestern flank, I think.
1:11:58
John C Dvorak: Yeah, something like that. But it's right there.
1:12:00
And it's like a buffer between the Ukraine and main part of
1:12:04
Moldova and they the Russia has been wanting to get capture that
1:12:08
they can't seem to
1:12:09
Adam Curry: right near Odessa and it borders on Romania.
1:12:14
John C Dvorak: Yeah, there's a lot of talk right now that the
1:12:16
Russians are really angling to get Odessa i think that's lost
1:12:21
cause at this point I don't
1:12:23
Adam Curry: think they care I think they want Dawn boss they
1:12:25
want to you know that's what they want that's the
1:12:27
John C Dvorak: if you look at some of the takeover maps where
1:12:30
they take over a big chunk of Ukraine Odessa is included
1:12:33
they'd love to own all the ports because there's money there but
1:12:39
at the Odessa is cannot go to the Russians and probably never
1:12:43
will but it's been discussed
1:12:47
Adam Curry: so any well that could be for for for you know
1:12:51
five years from now when this thing cranks up again that could
1:12:53
go get that but I don't know I'm just not seeing much movement at
1:13:00
the Moldova thing is is weird. It's weird. Does that mean that
1:13:04
we need we can't send anything anymore? We have no we have no
1:13:07
ammo. We got nothing. I don't I don't know what that what the
1:13:11
plan is. They may be at a stalemate. And that that little
1:13:15
laugh tell you had there that little giggle Oh, my God. Yeah,
1:13:18
that's what they think. It looks like it's ending.
1:13:23
John C Dvorak: That's a giveaway. This is well, that's
1:13:25
what and it's not answering the question either. It's like
1:13:28
saying, you know, do you think that next the the Ukrainians
1:13:35
want to take they want to take back Crimea? And he says, Yeah,
1:13:38
I've heard that's what they think. Kind of. I don't Yeah,
1:13:42
like, I don't think so. That's not they're not getting that's
1:13:45
not part of it. We'll be here forever if that happens.
1:13:48
Adam Curry: Yeah. Goodness. I wish I wish we knew a little bit
1:13:52
more.
1:13:53
John C Dvorak: I wish they stop it.
1:13:55
Adam Curry: What stopped the war? Yeah. Well,
1:13:59
John C Dvorak: they have the wherewithal they have,
1:14:01
supposedly we have diplomats that are professionals. And
1:14:04
meanwhile, of course, we lost, you know, the war between Saudi
1:14:08
Arabia and Iran, which is mostly a Pyrrhic I guess, whatever you
1:14:12
want to call but they had a proxy war going on in Yemen
1:14:16
between the two and it was brokered to peace by the
1:14:19
Chinese.
1:14:20
Adam Curry: This was beautiful. I have a clip pre conciliation
1:14:23
Unknown: between old enemies.
1:14:26
The declaration signed by our kingdom, Iran and China was in
1:14:31
Canada Jose senang
1:14:32
SMent on national television in Saudi Arabia followed the
1:14:35
release of a joint statements with Iran to Middle Eastern
1:14:39
countries brought together around a table in China and
1:14:42
reestablished diplomatic relations in tissue if I were
1:14:46
YouTube.
1:14:47
Testing this thing, we agreed to open a new chapter between the
1:14:51
Islamic Republic of Iran and Saudi Arabia after having no
1:14:56
ties for seven years, while observing the interests of both
1:14:59
countries.
1:15:00
It's a masala shahadi This video released by Iranian state media
1:15:06
shows Iranian and Saudi officials alongside China's most
1:15:10
senior diplomats. Sunni Saudi Arabia cut ties with
1:15:14
predominantly Shia Iran in 2016, after an attack on its embassy
1:15:19
in Tehran, carried out by Iranian protesters after the
1:15:22
Saudi execution of a Shia cleric re establishing ties could have
1:15:27
wide implications across the Middle East, particularly in
1:15:31
Yemen, whether two rival Gulf powers are locked in a proxy
1:15:34
war, as well as in Iraq and in Lebanon, Riyadh, and Tehran will
1:15:39
reopen their embassies and will also restart economic and
1:15:43
security deals signed in 1998 and 2001. The White House
1:15:49
welcome the rapprochement saying is a means for us to deescalate
1:15:53
tensions in the region. Because Beijing meanwhile, praised the
1:15:57
wisdom of the two countries.
1:15:59
Adam Curry: I think this is a baller move by China. Freely
1:16:03
cool. They did this, because now they've got Saudi Arabia, Iran,
1:16:09
Russia, they got a pretty formidable front. Now in the
1:16:12
front, they got a formidable group. And what does that do for
1:16:16
our sales of weapons and training and advisors to Yemen.
1:16:20
Does that end is that over now is there as
1:16:22
John C Dvorak: well, we were selling to Saudi Arabia, and
1:16:24
they were using it in Yemen.
1:16:26
Adam Curry: Yeah. Believe me, we have advisors helping them out
1:16:29
in Yemen.
1:16:29
John C Dvorak: But I'm sure Yeah, I think it puts the kibosh
1:16:32
on it it doesn't change the fact that the Saudis will probably
1:16:35
still keep buying our F 16. Or F 30. Fives I'm not sure what
1:16:39
we're selling,
1:16:40
Adam Curry: China is going to negotiate the peace between
1:16:43
Russia and Ukraine. This is the this is the way
1:16:45
John C Dvorak: that was the that was the thesis that showed up in
1:16:49
the show about a month ago. And the fact that they did this
1:16:54
little side bit, which is like okay, look, here's how it works.
1:16:58
We're going to show you how good we are. And then they negotiate
1:17:02
you want so let me pick two crappy countries that hate each
1:17:04
other. Let me show you how we get these two to get together.
1:17:08
Yeah. And they got him together out of the blue by the way, I
1:17:12
didn't know about this happening know that we weren't given any
1:17:17
any heads up on this by the media, that's for sure. There
1:17:22
was no precursor at all. So boom, this happens. Okay, now we
1:17:26
can deal with the rest of it. We can hook these two guys, we can
1:17:30
get the Ukraine thing. It's an embarrassment. Oh, yeah. We
1:17:34
praise a bullcrap. Dr. People should be ashamed of themselves.
1:17:39
They're
1:17:39
Adam Curry: not they're completely a blip. They don't
1:17:41
they have a board. I don't
1:17:42
John C Dvorak: believe it. Okay, so they can't be How can you be
1:17:46
humiliated like this? Oh, they say, well, that's great.
1:17:50
Adam Curry: Oh, they're humiliated. But they want to
1:17:52
save face. And China is going to let them save face. They're the
1:17:55
kings of saving face. And everything. I talked about the
1:18:00
pivot to China. I'm going to give you two examples right now.
1:18:03
The first one is Avril Haines. She represents the US. I think
1:18:08
the National Intelligence Director,
1:18:10
John C Dvorak: she is the dumbest woman I've ever seen in
1:18:13
the intelligence community.
1:18:15
Adam Curry: Well, she's running it and this report, sadly, cut
1:18:18
it down. 48 seconds has some music under it. But this is from
1:18:21
testimony in Senate
1:18:22
Unknown: in brief, the CCP represents both the leading and
1:18:26
most consequential threat to US national security and leadership
1:18:29
globally, and its intelligence specific ambitions and
1:18:32
capabilities. Make it for us our most serious and consequential
1:18:36
intelligence rival. During the past year, the threat has been
1:18:40
additionally complicated by a deepening collaboration with
1:18:43
Russia, which also remains an area obviously, of intense focus
1:18:46
for the intelligence community. We do see them providing
1:18:49
assistance to Russia in the context of the conflict. And we
1:18:54
see them in a situation in which they'd become increasingly
1:18:58
uncomfortable about the level of assistance and not looking to do
1:19:03
it as publicly as might otherwise occur. And given the
1:19:08
reputational costs associated with it, yeah,
1:19:11
Adam Curry: sure. They don't care about the reputation. So
1:19:13
just bear with me for a second. It behooves everybody for China
1:19:18
to and the Ukraine conflict, because we are already moving
1:19:22
away from Ukraine. You're not on the Oscars, your agent, fire
1:19:25
your agent get a new one is not going to work. We're not going
1:19:28
to let you on the Oscars that happened that that right that I
1:19:31
know it's over in America, if you're shunned from show
1:19:34
business as the end of your career, and he's an actor,
1:19:38
comedian. So we have the intelligence committee. Oh, yes.
1:19:40
Well, actually, this is why they're very, they're very
1:19:42
sophisticated. They got balloons, so we need some money
1:19:45
for our intelligence. Okay, great. So we got the dumb Avro
1:19:47
Levine over there. I have here in front of me a memorandum
1:19:52
John C Dvorak: who is not Avril Levine Rachel Levine.
1:19:56
Adam Curry: No, no. Abra Levine is a singer who Aren't you gonna
1:20:00
John C Dvorak: be Chicago right? Here? Right? Yeah, sorry.
1:20:03
Adam Curry: Who is I believe Rachel Levine's daughter. So
1:20:06
that's very possible. I don't, I don't know. I have in front of
1:20:09
me memorandum for all Department of Defense personnel dated
1:20:13
stamped March 2 2023. From from our Secretary of Defense, you
1:20:18
know him if you wouldn't recognize him because he has a
1:20:20
mask and a shield on. I'd like to read a little bit from this
1:20:24
memorandum. Since day one is Secretary of Defense, I have
1:20:27
been guided by three priorities, defending the nation, taking
1:20:32
care of our people, and succeeding through teamwork.
1:20:36
Wow, what is he running at the Silicon Valley startup idiot.
1:20:41
Over the past two years, we've made tremendous progress in all
1:20:43
three arenas. I'd like to thank each and every one of you for
1:20:46
your commitment and hard work. As we look to the year ahead,
1:20:50
these same three priorities continued to guide all that we
1:20:53
do. So he's prioritize these challenges. I'm going to give
1:21:00
them to you in order of appearance and order of priority
1:21:04
number one,
1:21:05
John C Dvorak: this is the order of priority order of priority.
1:21:08
So number one is the most prior buy the most prior, the most
1:21:12
high priority
1:21:13
Adam Curry: highest priority. Exactly. defend the nation,
1:21:19
prioritize China as the pacing challenge. And increasingly
1:21:26
aggressive China is trying to shape the international rules
1:21:29
based system New World Order to suit its authoritarian
1:21:33
preferences. This is a generational challenge and the
1:21:36
department will rise to meet it. To do so we must embrace
1:21:41
integrated deterrence, which charges us to coordinate our
1:21:44
efforts across all warfighting domains, theatres and the
1:21:48
spectrum of conflict to create new and more complex dilemmas
1:21:52
for adverse adversaries. More money,
1:21:55
John C Dvorak: adversaries. Yeah,
1:21:57
Adam Curry: that's what I meant adversaries. Thank you. We must
1:21:59
continue to break down stovepipes across the department
1:22:02
stovepipes across the environment, improve our
1:22:05
cooperation with the interagency and Congress and work with our
1:22:08
allies and partners to improve operational planning, blah,
1:22:12
blah, blah. So, we are to strengthen our deterrence
1:22:15
posture in the Indo Pacific but developing new concepts and
1:22:19
capabilities Kuching deepening our alliances and partnerships.
1:22:23
Hello Philippines, expanding our activities and operations Hello
1:22:28
right off the coast of China. As the threat from PRC evolves, we
1:22:31
will provide Taiwan self defense capabilities consistent with the
1:22:35
budget we need, I'm sorry, with the Taiwan Relations Act,
1:22:38
alright, to tackle the acute Russian threat. We will not be
1:22:45
drawn into Putin's war of choice, but we remain resolved
1:22:48
to defend every inch of NATO territory. Working closely with
1:22:52
our allies. We've already strengthened NATO's eastern
1:22:55
flank and will continue to strengthen our collective
1:22:57
defence and deterrence. It's over addressed advanced and
1:23:03
persistent threats. The department will also remain
1:23:06
vigilant against dangers including North Korea, Iran and
1:23:10
the global terrorist organizations. innovate and
1:23:13
modernize. Here we go. America's dynamism has always been at the
1:23:17
heart of our strategic advantage to tackle emerging challenges.
1:23:20
We are modernizing every aspect of the joint force from
1:23:23
hypersonic weapons to our joint warfighting concepts comms our
1:23:28
joint warfighting concept and American concept vehicles. From
1:23:33
data analysis to artificial intelligence GPT war version, we
1:23:38
are also accelerating the development of advanced
1:23:40
technologies to deliver new capabilities to the force. This
1:23:43
sounds like a Silicon Valley pitch. And then of course, on
1:23:49
the list, meters meet the climate crisis.
1:23:53
John C Dvorak: Well, this number one, no, no,
1:23:56
Adam Curry: this is number four. I'm giving them to you in
1:23:58
John C Dvorak: order number of four. You've already given me
1:24:01
about 10 of them. No, I gave you one.
1:24:04
Adam Curry: One was China. Two was Russia. Three persistent
1:24:07
threats. Oh, yeah. Fours innovate and Myrt and more than
1:24:10
modernized, and five I'm sorry, is meet the climate crisis. Our
1:24:13
strategy and planning addresses for security implications of our
1:24:17
changing climate. We are developing new platforms to
1:24:20
mitigate logistical risks in contested environments.
1:24:24
John C Dvorak: Whatever happens to the fish there on the streets
1:24:27
of Miami flopping on
1:24:29
Adam Curry: the streets of Miami or is the fish that was honest
1:24:38
this. There they are.
1:24:43
Unknown: flopping people are noticing the largest downpour in
1:24:46
the history of the UK was just a year ago. Last fall and there
1:24:51
have been wave after wave of these downpours, the sea level
1:24:55
predictions and low lying coastal areas not least on the
1:24:58
banks of the Thames. are ones that people are now taking into
1:25:03
account all the terms that are flowing I was in Amsterdam
1:25:07
earlier this week. And believe me, they're looking very
1:25:11
carefully at this my, in making this movie I went to Miami Beach
1:25:16
I saw a fish from the ocean, swimming in the streets. Yeah,
1:25:20
Miami Beach flopping flopping around during the highest of the
1:25:24
high tides. That's happening on a regular basis,
1:25:27
John C Dvorak: regular, regular basis. That was some photos of
1:25:30
the more recent examples. So the
1:25:32
Adam Curry: second part was taking care of our people. I'll
1:25:35
just run through this quickly grow our talent to grow our
1:25:39
talent. Does that mean to remain the strongest fighting force in
1:25:42
the world? We must recruit and retain the best of America.
1:25:45
Yeah, once you Jack us up with vaccines we don't want that
1:25:48
helps. That grows your talent, build resilience and readiness,
1:25:53
whatever, ensure accountable leadership, we write and then
1:25:57
succeeding through teamwork, join forces with our allies and
1:26:00
partners, sell them some crap they don't want strengthen
1:26:03
partnerships across America and build unity within the
1:26:07
department. So there is really nothing about you the Ukraine
1:26:11
war is not the existential threat that it was. There's no
1:26:14
whatever it takes, we're gonna defend NATO. It's all about
1:26:18
China. So China gives us it's a gimme. It's like, it's almost
1:26:22
like hey, this is great. Thanks, China. And now we got Iran to do
1:26:26
what we're very worried about running their work with China.
1:26:28
We've got Taiwan Oh, very well, they're gonna take and you know
1:26:31
what, China will probably just not do anything until 2027 It
1:26:36
just go and we're just going to build
1:26:37
John C Dvorak: up what they might not do anything. The
1:26:38
latest from burns, though had the 2027 predictions now he's
1:26:43
now backing off saying what you just said. You know, they might
1:26:47
not do anything,
1:26:49
Adam Curry: then why would they?
1:26:50
John C Dvorak: Why would they watch us flailing around like
1:26:53
idiots if we
1:26:54
Adam Curry: were smart? We just continued to build up our
1:26:57
financial resilience because ultimately the China's trying to
1:27:02
put together I think a financial group now no bricks is basically
1:27:08
that but a Financial Group and make their money the rich
1:27:12
someone's got to be the reserve currency of green energy. I
1:27:16
guess it's not going to be it's not supposed to be oil or or gas
1:27:19
or anything. So I just see this as a non starter which we're
1:27:24
going to be it's going to be fear mongering on the news every
1:27:27
single day. All across the western world be afraid China
1:27:32
China, China, China, and you know, and maybe there'll be
1:27:34
little things I do here and there. But I just I don't see
1:27:38
it. I think it's it's great. They want more money, they don't
1:27:40
care they just want to blow stuff up and on TV pitch for
1:27:44
more money. We have no one to actually go and fight anymore.
1:27:50
We have we have like 50,000 Ready troops we don't even have
1:27:53
the half a million that we're supposed to have. Which is
1:27:58
really bad.
1:28:01
Unknown: Um over the
1:28:06
Adam Curry: over the past week, we had Queen Ursula came over to
1:28:13
visit Ursula Queen Ursula, the President of the European Union
1:28:18
Commission thing is for commission. So after Schultz
1:28:22
came over and Schultz Of course, like hey, man, you know, we got
1:28:25
to like step out of this Ukraine thing. Let's blame it on the
1:28:28
Ukrainians. So we have an out clean Ursula comes in because
1:28:32
now it's time to go back to the Green Deal. The hydrogen clean
1:28:36
hydrogen. Yeah. So she
1:28:38
John C Dvorak: flies over the same way that in and out, in and
1:28:42
out, no comes out or flies over? I mean, again, because they
1:28:46
don't trust any other form of communication. But okay.
1:28:51
Adam Curry: Well, she did do a she gave a speech, addressed the
1:28:55
media. And if you recall, the big problem with the European
1:28:59
Union and the US is the inflation Reduction Act, where
1:29:05
we say we made this you know, a lot of money was it a trillion
1:29:08
and a half dollars?
1:29:10
Unknown: I think it was the Yeah.
1:29:12
Adam Curry: How's that working out by the way has inflation
1:29:15
tempered any it keeps going up crazy. And the and, and, you
1:29:21
know, all kinds of subsidies are a trillion and a half dollars,
1:29:24
lot of money that we put up for green, green initiatives, except
1:29:30
in there, it's like well, you know, we'll we'll give subsidies
1:29:33
for electric vehicles and hydrogen stuff, but it has to be
1:29:37
60% us made. And somehow that was a fast one that was pulled
1:29:42
because this is what Queen Ursula has been bitching about.
1:29:46
For months now. We've played several clips, and I guess they
1:29:50
struck some sort of deal.
1:29:51
Unknown: We agreed on a transparency dialogue.
1:29:54
Concerning the incentives.
1:29:56
Adam Curry: What's your transparency dialogue? Because I
1:29:58
like a podcast, I think Podcast transparency dialogue. That's
1:30:01
what
1:30:02
Unknown: we need on a transparency dialogue concerning
1:30:05
the incentives that are given given to the clean tech industry
1:30:09
for us is important on both sides of the aisle
1:30:11
Adam Curry: like this. We kind of overlooked this. But it used
1:30:15
to be green tech, you remember that was Kleiner Perkins, who
1:30:18
put together a whole bunch of investments in companies for
1:30:20
green tech. Now, which clean tech and clean tech is, is
1:30:26
hydrogen, as far as I can tell, clean tech
1:30:28
Unknown: industry classes important on both sides of the
1:30:30
Atlantic to know what kind of incentives are being given to
1:30:35
the clean tech industry, to make sure that we joined forces to
1:30:39
boost the clean data industry that is crucial and paramount
1:30:44
for reaching a circular economy. A net zero economy a
1:30:49
few weeks ago, we
1:30:50
had already an agreement concerning electric vehicles
1:30:54
accessing the American market. Today, we agreed that we will
1:31:00
work on critical raw materials that have been processed in the
1:31:07
European Union, and to give them the access to the American
1:31:11
market as if they were sourced in the American market. We will
1:31:15
work on an agreement with that is concerned.
1:31:17
Adam Curry: There you go. So it's for the raw materials that
1:31:20
we're going to dig we're going to dig up parts of Europe, which
1:31:22
I think actually will be Canada. So it's like a it's a pass
1:31:26
through. Because Ursula went to Canada and said, hey, you know,
1:31:29
we need your raw materials. We need your green stuff. Because
1:31:34
you have a lot of gas and then you shipped out to us and then
1:31:37
we'll probably ship it off to America. They're doing some kind
1:31:39
of some kind of deal so that they dig up other countries.
1:31:44
John C Dvorak: Dig up Canada. That's a good Alberta is just
1:31:48
ripe to be dug up.
1:31:52
Adam Curry: Dig up Canada.
1:31:54
John C Dvorak: Yep. Canada meanwhile,
1:31:56
Adam Curry: we have nothing to worry about. Because our
1:31:58
national laboratory in the US has cracked the battery
1:32:01
technology code. We'll be able to go 1000s of miles on one
1:32:08
charge. It'll charge in five minutes. Oh, it's
1:32:13
John C Dvorak: I didn't see this.
1:32:14
Adam Curry: Oh, goodness. It the coming Evie batteries will sweep
1:32:17
away fossil fuel transport with or without net zero. I wish I
1:32:22
wish I had a clip I'll just read the first paragraph, the Argonne
1:32:26
National Laboratory in the US has essentially cracked the
1:32:30
battery technology for electric vehicles, discovering a way to
1:32:33
raise the future driving range of standard EVs to 1000 miles or
1:32:38
more. It promises to do so cheaply without exhausting the
1:32:42
global supply of critical minerals in the process. Why?
1:32:45
It's almost like zero point energy. I have seen these
1:32:49
stories so many times. Oh, how many times have we seen the new
1:32:56
battery technology?
1:32:59
John C Dvorak: Yes, go we have to remember everyone should
1:33:01
remember all battery technology, except for little bitty things
1:33:06
like the membrane and some of the packaging and all the rest
1:33:10
of it. All battery technology was beaten to death in the
1:33:13
1800s.
1:33:14
Adam Curry: Yeah, we had battery cars in the 1800s. And then once
1:33:18
the gasoline powered engine came along, I wouldn't want to screw
1:33:21
that battery piece of crap. We've been through this. It's
1:33:25
the argon argon i f battery. It's a global breakthrough.
1:33:32
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm skeptic I'm
1:33:34
Adam Curry: very skeptical. Because we've heard this
1:33:38
John C Dvorak: nothing new in battery technology. 2005
1:33:41
Adam Curry: I have a report here 2005 New Scientist and
1:33:45
rechargeable battery that can be fully charged in six minutes
1:33:48
last time times as long as today's rechargeables and could
1:33:50
provide burst of electricity up to three times more powerful in
1:33:54
a in a Nevada lab. Pa 2011 a pioneer in battery research who
1:34:01
already successful launch a three and a $50 million company
1:34:03
to supply batteries to like to GE and Chrysler has done it
1:34:06
again. Only this time it represents the complete
1:34:09
reinvention of battery technology as we know it. It
1:34:13
will fully replace fossil fuels, especially oil. So we've seen
1:34:19
this
1:34:19
John C Dvorak: and you could probably get that was 2011 Yeah,
1:34:22
probably go back another 10 years and you'll find some Mills
1:34:27
Adam Curry: This is my setup for your battery for I have no idea
1:34:29
where your clips are but I figured I'd say yep, I
1:34:33
John C Dvorak: have no idea. Okay, this is just a bag. Okay,
1:34:36
I get the battery clips.
1:34:38
Adam Curry: I see batteries for cars. I'm like this. I got to
1:34:40
set them up. This is perfect.
1:34:42
Unknown: Yeah. Play the clip.
1:34:45
John C Dvorak: To play clip. Boy, let's go with batteries.
1:34:47
Unknown: Do I want to go electric or hybrid? The Biden
1:34:51
administration would like you to the administration wants at
1:34:53
least half of new car sales to be electric in 10 years. To make
1:34:57
that happen. Car manufacturers need batteries, lots of them.
1:35:01
But here's the thing, China has a tight grip on the materials
1:35:04
and production needed to make those batteries. According to
1:35:07
the International Energy Agency 75% of the world's lithium ion
1:35:12
batteries 2021, the US made only 7%. This is yet another area
1:35:17
where the US and China are competing on the global stage.
1:35:20
So we thought this would be a good ask how the US can make
1:35:23
progress on electric cars and renewable energy when China
1:35:27
dominates the market. We call almost Hochstein for that he's
1:35:31
the Special Presidential coordinator for global
1:35:33
infrastructure and energy security in that role. He
1:35:36
advises President Biden on energy as a national security
1:35:40
matter. And his portfolio runs across agencies. So we thought
1:35:43
he'd be a good person to talk about this. And he's with us
1:35:45
now. Mr. Hochstein? Welcome. Thank you so much for joining
1:35:47
us.
1:35:48
It's great to be here. Michelle, it's really great to have this
1:35:50
conversation.
1:35:51
Thanks for that. So to start us off, is the US in a race with
1:35:55
China to acquire the materials for these car batteries.
1:35:58
I think we're in a race, not necessarily within China, but
1:36:01
we're in a race to ensure that we have for the United States, a
1:36:06
diversified sourcing of these batteries and solar. So it's not
1:36:11
just about the battery. So if you think about the way you just
1:36:14
presented, Michelle, we have the battery in it has a number of
1:36:18
components, and the car has even more components. And they are in
1:36:22
places like Sub Saharan Africa, from South and Central America,
1:36:26
Southeast Asia, and we have to source those. So one thing
1:36:29
President Biden wants to do is make more of those batteries
1:36:31
here at home. We want to do more money here at home. But we know
1:36:34
we can't mine in the United States for everything that we
1:36:37
need. No, we won't have
1:36:39
Adam Curry: it. Go dig up Canada. Much better. Right?
1:36:44
John C Dvorak: Well, there's some mines since I think the
1:36:45
Carolinas have some lithium mines that Nevada is another
1:36:49
place. Of course, Nevada. This numbers were just I didn't know
1:36:56
this. I didn't know that China made 75% Of all the batteries
1:37:00
and we made 7%. When did that happen?
1:37:05
Adam Curry: I don't know. What happened. By the way, it wasn't
1:37:08
that I read something about lithium, like the stock stocks
1:37:12
for lithium are way down. For some reason I read something.
1:37:16
John C Dvorak: So yeah. Do you know why I don't know why that
1:37:19
is? I looked into it. Okay. But I couldn't figure out it's just
1:37:23
who knows what, what's going on with lithium. But we have two
1:37:27
facilities, the United States, two lithium companies, and
1:37:30
there's a bunch of us you want to have this. Canada has a
1:37:34
couple of lithium plays that run on the on one of those. I think
1:37:38
that I don't even know if it's existing anymore. But they used
1:37:40
to have a stock exchange on the west coast of Canada that was
1:37:45
just did mining stocks. That was called a mining stock exchanges
1:37:49
to be penny stocks. And you can invest in some of these Penny
1:37:54
lithium stocks. I think it might not be a bad idea. But anyway,
1:37:58
Adam Curry: we don't offer financial advice. Disclaimer.
1:38:03
John C Dvorak: That yeah, I agree. Don't Don't listen to us
1:38:05
Adam Curry: ever, ever, ever buy bitcoin? Don't listen to me.
1:38:12
John C Dvorak: Just don't listen to him, especially you know,
1:38:14
okay.
1:38:16
Adam Curry: Protect yourself from a banking collapse. Here
1:38:19
you go.
1:38:21
Unknown: Part two, we don't want China to control the supply for
1:38:24
the whole world, just like we didn't want Russia to control
1:38:27
the supply of energy for its neighbors. So we have to learn
1:38:30
from the mistakes of the Russia war. And now implement that
1:38:34
here. And make sure that when you
1:38:37
Adam Curry: learn from our mistakes from the what is the
1:38:39
Russia war, to Russian warrior? What Russian war? You know, the
1:38:44
one in Ukraine? Yeah. What does it have to do with with lithium?
1:38:48
John C Dvorak: You tell me, man good. So
1:38:50
Unknown: we have to learn from the mistakes of the Russia war.
1:38:53
And now implement that here. And make sure that when you buy that
1:38:57
electric vehicle, or you install that solar panel, that it's not
1:39:02
controlled by one country.
1:39:05
John C Dvorak: You mean China, which controls 100% of the solar
1:39:08
panels. This guy is great,
1:39:11
Unknown: not controlled by one country.
1:39:14
So a factsheet, released by the White House last month said,
1:39:17
quote, The US is increasingly dependent on foreign sources for
1:39:20
many of the processed versions of these minerals. Globally,
1:39:23
China controls most of the market for processing and
1:39:26
refining for cobalt, lithium rare earths and other critical
1:39:30
minerals and quote, as I said, this is from the White House.
1:39:33
Yeah, how did we get to this point where China essentially
1:39:36
has control over this market and the US is playing catch up.
1:39:39
Over the last 10 years, China has invested in acquiring mines
1:39:45
in primarily Africa and southern South America. So they own a lot
1:39:48
of mining. They own a lot of the refining and processing of those
1:39:52
materials. When they come out of the ground. You got to turn them
1:39:55
into battery grade material, and then they want to build the
1:39:58
batteries and we wanted things cheap. So we were willing to buy
1:40:03
whatever was on the market at the lowest cost China then
1:40:06
reduce the costs subsidizing it. We bought the cheap stuff from
1:40:10
them and our own industries went out of business.
1:40:12
Adam Curry: So what happened to Elon giga factory? I thought he
1:40:16
had all the answers.
1:40:19
John C Dvorak: Well for him,
1:40:21
Adam Curry: I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but China controls
1:40:25
him. I mean, aren't they the biggest?
1:40:28
John C Dvorak: Well, he's got a plant there. And they always
1:40:31
threatened him with one thing or another. Shut up.
1:40:33
Adam Curry: Shut up. Iran Shut up. Shut up. Iran. Oh, we tap
1:40:38
you on half your money. Your Tesla. That was my usual thing,
1:40:43
personally. Yeah, very good. Yes, very good.
1:40:45
Unknown: interested in why this happened,
1:40:47
the why it's not as much as the constituency. But maybe even to
1:40:52
the country, what the Chinese wanted to do was to take away
1:40:56
our industry, we even sued them under the Obama administration,
1:41:01
and accused them of anti dumping, meaning that they were
1:41:04
selling product for less than what they was costing them to
1:41:07
produce. And so because we didn't think ahead of what does
1:41:12
this do the entire industry, they essentially took us out of
1:41:15
business. And we didn't really care because we think about
1:41:19
things in a free market, we always talk about we want this
1:41:22
to be in a free market. And one actor in this free market was
1:41:27
acting exactly the opposite. They were subsidizing and
1:41:30
pouring money into it and using their influence around the world
1:41:33
to take over the supply chain. And once we lost the supply
1:41:37
chain, we lost the industry. So if in 2010, we were the dominant
1:41:41
solar power manufacturer. Today, we barely even exist. But that's
1:41:47
all about to change.
1:41:48
Adam Curry: Oh, it's all about the change as we dig up Canada,
1:41:56
John C Dvorak: but it never goes into how it's about to change.
1:41:58
Well,
1:41:58
Adam Curry: the big change they're pushing for is hydrogen.
1:42:01
And I was the New York Times had a pretty big article about
1:42:06
Australia, that Australia would be the will be the world's
1:42:09
biggest hydrogen producing nation, because they're going to
1:42:14
put probably Chinese solar panels all over the Outback.
1:42:19
Yeah. This is great.
1:42:24
John C Dvorak: As you know, we always forget, we always forget
1:42:26
Michael Moore's documentary that he the last one that was famous
1:42:33
that he did, which is still available, you got to scrounge
1:42:36
it up someplace about the environmental movement.
1:42:40
Adam Curry: Yeah, it was all about nuclear being the best
1:42:43
thing.
1:42:43
John C Dvorak: Well, that's what turned out to be but he kept
1:42:46
showing example, after example of failed experiments for green
1:42:52
energy, including that giant solar panel that was set up down
1:42:57
in the Arizona desert.
1:42:59
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Huge.
1:43:02
John C Dvorak: Just be this would be similar to what was
1:43:04
what's gonna happen with the the Outback is huge. It was a big
1:43:11
giant lash shop that you went to visit it was just as in
1:43:15
shatters, it was in tatters? It was, it was a mess,
1:43:18
Adam Curry: or the Outback certainly is big. You can put,
1:43:21
John C Dvorak: you know, how many panels can you get, who's
1:43:23
going to monitor it, you know, okay, and they're all Chinese
1:43:26
and Chinese are going to, you know, sell a lot of panels. But
1:43:29
I'm always thinking about this, you know, there's, there's some
1:43:32
economic thinking where if you know, somebody's going to pour,
1:43:36
throw money away, and they're gonna sell you a solar panel for
1:43:40
10 bucks, and 10 bucks of it is their subsidy. And you're
1:43:44
actually getting the solar panel, you're paying 10 bucks,
1:43:47
but you're actually getting $20 for the solar panel, right? That
1:43:51
this is a benefit. It's a net gain in wealth to the receiver.
1:43:56
And the Chinese have done this in their entire history. And
1:44:01
they always make a fundamental error at the end, they'd never
1:44:04
cornered the market correctly. This happened with Chinese and
1:44:08
this and the Japanese silk industry. The Japanese were
1:44:12
developed a silk industry and they're making these fine silks.
1:44:15
They had the worms and all the restaurants somehow, I guess,
1:44:18
over just in the bottom of the 14 1300s 1400s. It was long time
1:44:23
ago. And the Chinese smuggled some of the silkworms out
1:44:26
because they didn't know about this and started making silk.
1:44:29
And it took a while but you can make a lot of bugs and so they
1:44:31
started making soap and they started making soap that was
1:44:35
good enough to compete with the Japanese stuff. And they would
1:44:39
lowball them. They would sell it for 1/10 The price was good,
1:44:43
best price and and this continued and continued to to
1:44:46
put the Japanese silk people out of business
1:44:50
Adam Curry: or they come into a shoe. What does that
1:44:53
John C Dvorak: all hell's breaking loose around here
1:44:54
Adam Curry: and what's going on? That's right near that's closer
1:44:57
than normal.
1:44:59
John C Dvorak: I don't know what They are okay. Anyway
1:45:02
Adam Curry: I like to soak story keep going
1:45:04
John C Dvorak: so they put this the show guys in Japan had a
1:45:07
business basically took over the world silk market and that
1:45:11
became you know silk trading was a big deal during the Silk Road
1:45:14
and that was called that for a reason because people were
1:45:17
trading everything they could get to get this Chinese silk
1:45:20
they never jacked up the prices What an idiot knows best price
1:45:28
to get the best price we took over the market why should we
1:45:31
jack up the prices and that's always kind of been their
1:45:35
attitude it's like we got a product is making money Where's
1:45:38
not like us we always think everything in terms of what we
1:45:41
do right corner the market you know do bunker hunt cornering
1:45:45
the silver market. Let's just jack it up.
1:45:49
Unknown: No, man's to DC
1:45:53
Adam Curry: now seems like they're they're at the door,
1:45:55
John.
1:45:56
John C Dvorak: Yeah, go down the aisle let him in.
1:45:59
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, as we're on this green energy kick, which
1:46:02
is just a stupid thing, people just aren't having it. I love
1:46:05
the Brits. You know, the the Ulez the Ultra Low Emission zone
1:46:11
which is only a part of London right now, but they want to make
1:46:14
it a lot of London. Where you know, you you you come into the
1:46:18
Ulez zone and you come in with the wrong vehicle and you get a
1:46:22
bill and so now the Brits are just cutting the wires paying
1:46:27
the lenses black ripping them off sewing them in half. Good.
1:46:32
Yeah, of course. It's good. You need this kind of vandalism.
1:46:35
This is insane what this mayor is doing. Sadiq Sadiq Khan.
1:46:43
They're going to install 20 750 of these things. By August.
1:46:53
People are
1:46:54
John C Dvorak: not having it. pellet guns,
1:46:58
Adam Curry: pellet guns. See, what else do we have? Whoa.
1:47:06
Sorry. I don't have anything else on the climate change. Do I
1:47:12
have anything here? Oh, I do actually. I'm sorry. Yes, I do
1:47:16
have some climate change. This is the Netherlands. You know,
1:47:20
there's a big vote coming up on the 15th I think it's the
1:47:24
provincial elections and feared builders is out who's been under
1:47:28
protection for a while, maybe 15 years or so because there's a
1:47:33
there's a what's it called against them? Not the jihad but
1:47:37
a firefight get him? fatback FatBar thought
1:47:42
John C Dvorak: oh, ah, oh,
1:47:42
Adam Curry: it had been because he was anti immigration. And he
1:47:45
said no, we were not built. We're not immigration country.
1:47:48
We're not built for all of the Turlock
1:47:52
John C Dvorak: like that is not built for a big input of all
1:47:55
kinds of foreigners at all, at all, at all. And so is it make
1:47:59
any sense
1:48:00
Adam Curry: when so this was about shutting down the 3000
1:48:02
farms. The farmers are out protesting again, they went all
1:48:06
the way down to Brussels. And you know, we studied this
1:48:09
closely. This is one of the the Tri Cities projects where they
1:48:14
want the Netherlands as you called it to be a bedroom
1:48:17
community. And so of course, fielder's is out with his, with
1:48:22
a security detail and he answers a question about about the
1:48:25
former eliminations, what do you make of the
1:48:27
Unknown: of the nitrogen emission reducing policies? What
1:48:30
do you think the real story is?
1:48:33
I think it's it's leftish rubbish. The real aim here is to
1:48:37
get rid of our farmers for some leftish nitrogen kind of agenda
1:48:42
to make room for even more immigrants, asylum seekers and
1:48:47
build houses and centers for them. And it's something that is
1:48:52
totally different than the current Elite is telling the
1:48:57
people
1:48:58
Adam Curry: I like leftish I like like that. Instead of
1:49:01
leftists, I like leftish, I like left
1:49:03
Unknown: dish dish.
1:49:04
Adam Curry: It's a nice dish we make here at the restaurant,
1:49:07
it's left dish, it's leftovers. And of course, climate change is
1:49:11
killing us left and right and making our travel very, very,
1:49:14
very unpleasant.
1:49:15
Unknown: In the past week, several airline passengers have
1:49:18
been severely injured or killed when their flights experienced
1:49:22
severe turbulence on March 1, seven people were hospitalized
1:49:26
and the plane cabin was left a mess. When Lufthansa flight
1:49:30
encountered significant turbulence over Tennessee A few
1:49:33
days later, a woman flying on a business jet was killed when the
1:49:36
aircraft was violently shaken and forced to divert to
1:49:39
Connecticut scientists expect turbulence like this to become
1:49:43
more frequent change Yep, they're
1:49:46
Adam Curry: scientists expect to get him you're gonna die in the
1:49:48
sky. We're gonna die in the sky people.
1:49:52
John C Dvorak: I had a I was on a plane once and it first
1:49:56
traveling somewhere and I was sitting next to another a guy
1:49:59
who travelled a lot he was like a salesman he was traveling
1:50:03
probably two thirds of the month. So we get into this it
1:50:08
probably done this get into these horror story exchanges
1:50:12
Adam Curry: while I was on a flight one time. Yeah. So
1:50:15
John C Dvorak: I we got we got into this turbulence discussion
1:50:18
and I said to him, we flew over a the worst turbulence I've ever
1:50:23
experienced, we were coming in over Ontario. And it turns out
1:50:27
that we were told later because it threw the plane everywhere,
1:50:30
everywhere. It's just It was a horrible experience that wings
1:50:33
were about to break off. Somebody said Are they were?
1:50:37
Yeah, so somebody said oh, yeah, that they tested the B one
1:50:41
bombers flies fluid flies around, if you catch the, you
1:50:44
know, if you get into the turbulence of that thing,
1:50:47
atmospheric river atmospheric river, it throws you all over
1:50:51
the place. I'm telling the guy the story says, really? And he
1:50:55
says, you know, first of all, did all the overhead cabins pop
1:51:01
open and throw luggage all over the place and hit in the head?
1:51:06
And I said, No. Then he said, well, then you never been in
1:51:09
turbulence.
1:51:11
Adam Curry: By the way, the solution to turbulence is a
1:51:14
short slow down, believe it or not. And that lady who was she
1:51:20
was on the plane with her husband on the private jet. I
1:51:22
can tell you what, most of the people who are injured from
1:51:27
turbulence don't have their seatbelts on.
1:51:30
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's absolutely true part because
1:51:33
because the plane drops 10 feet and you're sitting there you go
1:51:36
up 10 feet and hit your head on the ceiling. And
1:51:39
Adam Curry: I'll tell you that I am I always have my seatbelt on
1:51:43
always. I mean, I'm pilot pilots are not stupid. And the lady in
1:51:48
the in the private jet she did not ever seatbelt on and she
1:51:53
died from a laceration to the head who knows she probably got
1:51:56
thrown and hit her head on
1:51:58
John C Dvorak: flying all over the last. And most people in
1:52:01
private jets don't use seatbelts.
1:52:03
Adam Curry: I remember Ray lane, Kleiner Perkins. This was when
1:52:07
he took me and Blum and Marta on his Galaxy, which is a huge jet
1:52:13
really not challenged as a good challenger as a global
1:52:16
challenger to fly from San Francisco with I guess it was
1:52:20
what airport to LA for the launch of the Tesla which was
1:52:28
the Roadster at the time which Elon did in or really Sequoia
1:52:33
Capital Elon did it in a in an airplane hangar and first of all
1:52:38
it was it was wall to wall private jets five of them from x
1:52:42
Pay Pal guys just it was everyone came in the private
1:52:45
jet. And this was and this was a new jet that Ray had. And so I
1:52:50
sat up front in the jump seat between the two pilots because
1:52:53
you know it was only it's a short flight from San Francisco
1:52:55
to LA I'm like I'm gonna fly up front. So I didn't need to sit
1:52:58
the back drinking cognac. So as we're landing new plane somehow
1:53:07
the pilot made an error and the nose wheel brake was locked. So
1:53:14
you land on the on the two on the main landing gear and as the
1:53:17
nose wheel came down the minute that hit you know, it was like
1:53:21
of course they unlocked it very quickly. But Ray Lane was in the
1:53:24
back sitting across from Rana Marta and he had literally said,
1:53:28
this thing is so smooth you don't even need your seatbelt.
1:53:31
He went flying forward with his glass of whiskey, everything it
1:53:34
could have been a really really bad situation. Because these
1:53:37
people are arrogant you get rich you get stupid. Really
1:53:42
unbelievable. And so this is the tip. This is a tip we're gonna
1:53:47
give you that is a valid tip. Always wear your seatbelt even
1:53:51
when doing seatbelt sign us off everybody. Keep it on. Keep it
1:53:58
on.
1:53:59
John C Dvorak: Yeah, unless you have to go to the bathroom.
1:54:01
Adam Curry: Yeah, and even then wait until you're absolutely
1:54:03
certain that there's not a little lick of turbulence and be
1:54:07
at least 30,000 feet before you even consider that.
1:54:14
John C Dvorak: Well that's our tip for the day kind of tip bows
1:54:17
kind of arrogant, elitist tip that you'd get if your accounts
1:54:22
are lousy donations in the next segment. And with
1:54:24
Adam Curry: that I'd like to say in the morning to you and thank
1:54:27
you for your courage the man who put the sea and dig up Canada
1:54:30
ladies and gentlemen, please say hello to my friend on the other
1:54:32
end Mr.
1:54:38
John C Dvorak: Kraus in the morning ships at sea boots on
1:54:40
the ground feed near subs in the water and all the damos nights
1:54:42
out.
1:54:43
Adam Curry: We noticed what is happening to trolls and the
1:54:45
troll room who we always say in the morning to the lips. Let's
1:54:49
count them right away. Oh, hello, whoa, whoa, whoa, it's
1:54:56
already down to 1450 foot No. What do we have no.
1:54:59
Unknown: Right I'm gonna I don't think this is accurate now Hold
1:55:01
Adam Curry: on What do I'm not getting a count? What's my count
1:55:04
here? 2333 There you go. 2333 and I'm going to keep refreshing
1:55:11
because people are so stupid. They leave during the donation
1:55:17
segment which by the way, it's going to be short today, but
1:55:20
this is where the best content takes place. 2309 We already
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lost 27 Shame on them. Shame on them just by
1:55:29
John C Dvorak: mentioning that
1:55:30
Adam Curry: out it goes 2352 We're down we're debt 2309
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Unbelievable. These people should be ashamed of themselves
1:55:38
they do not care about the people who support the program.
1:55:42
Because that's what this is. And you know what the people who
1:55:44
leave they're not they're not supporters?
1:55:49
John C Dvorak: No, they probably aren't and they don't care about
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us discussing the art 2287 2287 Why they really Belfast Oh yeah.
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Adam Curry: Oh yeah, they bail like little bitches.
1:56:00
John C Dvorak: I'm out of here. Donation segment all they're
1:56:03
gonna do is bake from laying
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Adam Curry: the chanting. Yeah, well, that's what we do. Anyway,
1:56:09
for those trolls still remaining. We love you. Thank
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you for staying with us. Keeping it going strong. In fact, turn
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listened to donation segment, but after the count, I can go
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have a life. Okay. And that is noodle, man. 33 unblock him
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forever. Noodle man little man douche man is what you mean. All
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right. Thank you to the trolls. We do appreciate the trolls.
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They're very helpful. And they can be helpful during the
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It's unbelievable. How mean people are 2243. We've lost 150
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We're all on the mastodon tip. We've been doing that for five
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think you can get any more slots on our server. But you're more
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than welcome to follow us from any Mastodon instance, that has
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a million of them. There is more than a million now. There's not
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quite a million, but there's a lot. It's quite a lot. And yes,
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indeed, we always like to thank our artists who brings us the
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you'll see what the artists are doing as we speak. You can also
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see one of the many many choices we had for the previous episode,
1:58:32
which was episode 1536. We titled that killer clown. And
1:58:37
this art was loved by many came to us from Roger round eat
1:58:43
second in a row. He's going for the hat trick. This was the
1:58:47
turtle Mitch upside down with little Chinese crown of course,
1:58:54
signifying Mitch McConnell and we have we have an update on on
1:58:58
the the the minority leader on on Mitch on the journal I don't
1:59:04
think so. We didn't that for this show. We don't. Okay, well,
1:59:07
we hope he's okay. We don't know. By the way, the extra
1:59:11
seems to stop our bitching stopped it and that's really
1:59:13
cool. Thanks. If you're still here, trolls we love you. We'll
1:59:16
be giving away a car to one of you later today. Roger Thank you
1:59:22
so much. What would we let me just take a look and just take a
1:59:25
look at
1:59:25
John C Dvorak: what very funny comment to make about this art
1:59:28
in the no agenda social. Yeah, he says that's what I needed to
1:59:32
know I needed to humiliate someone's appearance, humiliate
1:59:37
and he went on and on about, you know, just everything bad about
1:59:40
the art in terms of being negative imagery. And he says
1:59:44
that's how you win.
1:59:47
Adam Curry: And you could have been a part of that conversation
1:59:49
if you were following along. I don't know agenda social.com Now
1:59:53
there were a number of pieces. Let's see what did we see we had
1:59:58
some Schultz pieces by The way you said that lots of people
2:00:03
know the Hogan's hero Hogan,
2:00:06
John C Dvorak: I go God that's where we got our some of our
2:00:08
early jingles based on Hogan. I got exactly
2:00:11
Adam Curry: to both of them over 40. So,
2:00:16
John C Dvorak: okay, anybody who's under 40 That's familiar
2:00:19
with Hogan's Heroes and Schultz saying I see nothing or anything
2:00:25
like that send an email to adam@curry.com saying I'm in
2:00:29
that mode John's right. I would put $1 on it, but I won't I got
2:00:34
the dollar running on the fire jokes.
2:00:37
Adam Curry: We also have $1 running on something else.
2:00:39
John C Dvorak: I can't remember. That's longterm in
2:00:42
Adam Curry: December, but I don't know what it was for.
2:00:45
Anyway, let's take a look we had. So we have some some shell
2:00:49
stuff. We had the pre show mixed cassette tape. Now that didn't
2:00:58
work. We had doped gold. We had some just weird stuff. That
2:01:04
wasn't anything real. I liked the mastermind. He walked away
2:01:08
with it. He did but I liked the changes here, which was the
2:01:12
Ukraine flag being peeled back to show to reveal the Chinese
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flag. I liked that. Well. I liked that one. I didn't like
2:01:17
the cursive letters that were used instead of bold curry
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Dvorak and changes here. And you said you didn't even see that
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what it was you couldn't even parse it.
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John C Dvorak: Right. Which was mentioned they say Yeah, kinda.
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But
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Adam Curry: no, I liked that one. Round he actually had to be
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at two different color backgrounds. And we went with
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the obvious beautiful Chinese red.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, he probably I'm guessing that he did the
2:01:45
first one. And then he is thinking about what can I do to
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improve it? And because they all artists do that they if they if
2:01:53
they think is not quite 100% there and then so when he put
2:01:58
the red background of the Chinese flag, and then the stars
2:02:01
around his head, yellow may look even more like the Chinese flag
2:02:06
and that was a winner. I don't know if the other one would have
2:02:10
won. Hmm
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Adam Curry: Well, the one we looked at was Matthew dropped co
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Tucker's big dud we actually consider that for a second
2:02:18
because it was higher good higher up on the list. Yeah,
2:02:22
then then the the round anyone
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John C Dvorak: like to drop copies right away?
2:02:29
Adam Curry: Yeah, you did but then once we once we saw once we
2:02:33
saw what I'm saying it just seems like Are you hearing me
2:02:37
okay, because people are saying that the stream is stuttering I
2:02:39
don't know. You sound good. Okay, well then we're fine then
2:02:42
somewhere else. From January 6 stuff I think that's it and then
2:02:50
all the other stuff is new. I do love Taunton Neil, who keeps
2:02:54
trying to get us to talk about I guess she's a she's into
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crocheting
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, she she must be
2:03:02
Adam Curry: and well what the crochet community believe it or
2:03:06
not, there's a crochet community a quite a
2:03:08
John C Dvorak: bit and there's a knitting community as a crochet
2:03:10
there's an embroidery community have meetings that got a lot of
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Americans show sewing machine shops, and you go into a bunch
2:03:18
of women go in there they all get a machine to dick around
2:03:21
with so they learn how to do certain tricks.
2:03:25
Adam Curry: So what what they were trying to do and what has
2:03:28
been very disappointing to the crocheting community see this is
2:03:31
the kind of content that people are missing out on if you want
2:03:35
to have an artificial intelligence create a crocheting
2:03:41
I guess, is it a pattern or whatever the crochet errs go to
2:03:45
template. Yeah. And so they would upload a picture of curry
2:03:49
Dvorak. And, and the crocheting template that came out was not
2:03:56
really cool looking for us couple of balls. Yeah, we look
2:04:00
really stupid. It was no good. It was no good. So I don't think
2:04:04
we're ever going to choose anything. We're probably not
2:04:06
even going to talk about the topic except in the donation
2:04:08
segment where all the good stuff happens to Neil. Interesting,
2:04:13
our stream is dead. I have no idea why my people I'm
2:04:16
connected. I have no no idea what people are having a
2:04:18
problem. Okay, mothers have to deal with it. And you know what,
2:04:22
that's what happens when everyone leaves all of a sudden
2:04:24
in the streams can be their fault, their fault. Thanks,
2:04:27
trolls. Good work. And thank you very much, Roger. roundy. Two in
2:04:32
a row. The way it works here is if you get three in a row, you
2:04:35
get a hat trick. And that comes with all kinds of prizes. Yeah.
2:04:41
John C Dvorak: That in two bucks give you a cup of coffee. This
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is
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Adam Curry: a value for value program. That's why you don't
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hear and we could be playing ads, by the way with a million
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listeners per show. That's 1000 CPMs. Let's say we read two
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spots about $25. We could do $50,000 In Episode Two
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, for as long as until they found this out
2:05:03
Adam Curry: until they figured out what we were talking about.
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And we'll be over very quick. So we exist by the grace of the
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people who feel they've received value from this program. And
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let's be honest, you got a lot of value today. You don't have
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to worry, you know what's coming up. You'll be the smart person
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in the room, Monday at school or at work, and I know what's going
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on with the Silicon Valley Bank thing. I know what's going on.
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We're moving to China. Don't worry, don't be freaked out.
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Don't get so upset. You'll be the one that has that calm. And
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that piece over you. Surely that is worth some value. And to some
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people it is and they return that in the form of time, talent
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and treasure, which is all we request. Many people do lots of
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things for us. We have people who also helped produce the
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program with clips and, and websites and other boots on the
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ground information. But of course, we also need some
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treasure and the time talent and treasure department and Rob wing
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is our top executive producer today. He's from Essex from
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Epping in Great Britain $500 And he says hey John and Adam and
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said he has a longest donation no but since it's short and he's
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the top I'm going to read it all on a second there we go. Hi,
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John, Adam Rob wing from Essex here for those that don't know
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Essex is in the UK it's much like East London but with lots
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of trees. Big fan of the show for ever since I heard Adam on
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JRE around three years ago broken donation I really
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appreciate all you guys do and of course what the producers do
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before we go further I have to admit this is my first donation
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so obviously I need to de douching obviously you need that
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Unknown: you've been de duced
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Adam Curry: nice to see things are unraveling with the lockdown
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files you in the UK. Apparently the telegraph paper has enough
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content for the next three months. Oh, this is the the
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WhatsApp chat files. So I'm looking forward to when they get
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to the vaccine efficacy. It's not getting a huge amount of
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coverage in the UK for reasons the listeners will understand.
2:07:14
But the information is starting to get out there more and more
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even the BBC reported on it and that's saying something you
2:07:19
think there will be more outrage but either people aren't aware
2:07:22
or like my douchebag brother in law, Ronan drone. Ronan, they
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simply don't want to know but these are the same people that
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were happy to belittle me or lump me in with the Flat
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Earthers at the time for questioning the narrative or for
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not taking the vaccine accepting the vaccine into my life. I'd
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appreciate a douchebag jingle for the inlaw just done Lastly,
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I want to thank my smokin hot wife Laura who appreciate you
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keeping my amygdala small love his lips as Rob and he wants a
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Don't eat me. Bow Jaiden Okay, oh hold on a second. Don't eat
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me bow Jaiden Where is where is that bow? Jaiden Don't eat me.
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Is it? Is it we have a bow
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John C Dvorak: Don't eat me. Yeah, but I bow Jaiden all I
2:08:13
Adam Curry: have is Hillary This is very weird. Don't eat me bow
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Jaiden
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John C Dvorak: get bored Jaden.
2:08:21
Adam Curry: Yeah I'm looking at Bo Jaiden oh here we go for some
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reason. Oh apostrophe go figure
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followed by a good karma we got it for karma.
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John C Dvorak: jermichael Clink is up next. clink clink clink.
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Oh god. Lombard Illinois, ITM guys, okay, I can take a hint.
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All the Hogan's Heroes talk talk last show it's been a while
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since my last donation ah ha drummed up a donation if you
2:09:05
could play Fletcher yelling Hogan
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Adam Curry: that would that doesn't exist
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John C Dvorak: I don't think it does either. We had Fletcher do
2:09:13
all this stuff based on the based on
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Adam Curry: Hogan but we never actually but you know what, as I
2:09:17
was because I looked just to make sure Fletcher has done some
2:09:21
outrageous stuff for us if you don't mind. We had that one. And
2:09:28
we had
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Unknown: ladies and gentlemen. It is time to Ramallah eyes.
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It's a little bit funny. No, it's not
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Adam Curry: he has done so much. Oh, I don't know where that came
2:09:49
from. Oh, this is a good one.
2:09:52
Unknown: Ah, happy birthday.
2:09:56
Adam Curry: Anyway, no, we don't have that one. So you just got a
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nice night.
2:10:00
John C Dvorak: Hill says one end. Oh, I hope so.
2:10:02
Unknown: I hope so.
2:10:05
John C Dvorak: All right. Well, that was
2:10:06
Adam Curry: it. Oh, yeah. Well, that was easy. way he wanted to
2:10:13
wait a minute, but yeah, but what does that tell you? We miss
2:10:16
Masimo I think we missed Massimo. Yeah, we missed out.
2:10:19
Yeah. Masimo Cattaneo Oh, I miss Masimo okay, you can read that
2:10:23
when he's from Noosa Heads in Queensland, Australia. John,
2:10:26
Adam, please expect this bag of threes. That's 333 dot 33 from
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Masimo from kin kin Queensland, Australia, the equivalent of
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goats Gulch from my Damond I go karma for everyone, because we
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will need it and donate every once in a while. People cheat.
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Oh, thank you. You've got karma.
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John C Dvorak: I believe that was Chow. When I say she out.
2:10:54
Okay, Ciao. Ciao, ciao to David in Grapevine, Texas. Switcheroo
2:11:01
for Dame Karen. Okay, we can do that up done. New Jersey and big
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goat to my best girl, the newly minted Dame Karen who will be
2:11:13
celebrating her birthday on 313 as a dame because a birthday to
2:11:19
you. I'm not she's on the list that we usually put some yellow
2:11:21
in here. I know this isn't exactly. I know. This isn't the
2:11:25
exact ring she keeps asking for. But hopefully it will do for
2:11:31
now. No agenda has been the official podcast of the road
2:11:35
trips. And as we come to realize our exit strategy of life on the
2:11:40
road. We look forward to many more years and at least one more
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presidential campaign.
2:11:49
Adam Curry: Season of wishful thinking wishful thinking this
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John C Dvorak: coming verb placeholder name will be named
2:11:55
Karen keeper of the travel hounds. And she will have a Pino
2:12:01
Taj from the Stellan bike region, and black in red snapper
2:12:07
and asparagus. Oh, ISAC. I was confused by the React she's
2:12:11
getting a ring but she's getting our ring. She wants a wedding
2:12:14
ring.
2:12:14
Adam Curry: Oh. Now we understand now the monkey comes
2:12:18
out of the sleeve. We got it.
2:12:20
John C Dvorak: Okay, and she says black and red snapper and
2:12:23
asparagus. Happy birthday. Damn, Karen.
2:12:27
Adam Curry: I was going to ask you we had a wine. The other
2:12:32
night we were invited to a dinner. And I enjoyed this very
2:12:36
much. I wanted to mention it to Utah ask you what you thought it
2:12:39
was a Spring Mountain vineyard ellevet 2004
2:12:47
John C Dvorak: Are you for Spring Mountain Vineyards a very
2:12:48
famous place it was this literal set for the soap opera Falcon
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Crest.
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Adam Curry: Oh, I love Yes, I'd love Falcon Crest. We'd love
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Monza of LeMans LeMans Oh, man. What was that guy's name Lorenzo
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de mas Lamaze Lorenzo Yeah,
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John C Dvorak: they were very popular winery back in his 70s
2:13:09
ca when they first cropped up, and they've always had decent
2:13:13
one. I haven't had a Spring Mountain line probably for 20
2:13:16
years. So I can't tell you much about it.
2:13:18
Adam Curry: Well, because it was a 2004 so literally almost 20
2:13:22
years ago. Yeah, it was great. Was really dynamite.
2:13:26
John C Dvorak: Was it a Cabernet?
2:13:29
Adam Curry: Yes kind
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John C Dvorak: of characteristics today? Yeah, I
2:13:31
think a Cabernet artistica mirlo
2:13:34
Adam Curry: No like a Cabernet it's it was bold. I would say
2:13:38
Minton by medium not you know if you have smooth tannic it was
2:13:42
dry a little bit acidic. Tasted notes of blackberry, plum, dark
2:13:47
fruit, oak tobacco chocolate. Enough little leathery, earthy
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smoke. Reading from the app,
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John C Dvorak: bird Haitian orange and my all time favorite.
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Adam Curry: Edward Musial of Waterford, Michigan 222 dot 10
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row of ducks and then a stick in return for hours of beans
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listening in the spirit of red pilled America support what you
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love or it goes away. This is so true. F guess or F canceled for
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Derek hunter. He says
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Unknown: you've got karma
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Adam Curry: words. True words were never spoken Edward. Thank
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John C Dvorak: you. Yeah, actually that's quite something
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to note. Brian agro in Cumberland Michigan. ITM please
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de douche me. You've been D deuced. Other ways donation.
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21687. And I should if I didn't mention it, but our Texan is 313
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The switcheroo for Dame Karen. I don't know if I said the price.
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Oh, Kimberly Maine, by the way, not come on in Michigan.
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Cumberland, Maine. IGN. Please do Wish me a possible exit
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strategy for you. He's got to deduce. Sorry. Turn me turn the
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show. Turn the show no. Turn the after show. More from what are
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you reading now? I'm trying to figure out what he's saying. He
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Adam Curry: says turn the after show mixes from COVID into a
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Broadway musical Can you not read? It's
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John C Dvorak: just so no, I've got blurry vision this reason
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all right. Please call my brother, Dan a douchebag. Bring
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back to three by three jingles. Three by three and John's ot G
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OTG going to OTG and that's not mine. That's just my song. Brian
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agro of Cumberland Maine. Welcome back to three by three
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jingles three by three. Okay. He wants to do
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Unknown: this show. Send your cash. You will obey. Now it's
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time for a three by three. Experiment by JC talking about
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comparisons don't refund ABC, CBS and NBC
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Adam Curry: three and here's what he asked for.
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Unknown: John Cena Borak Bakelite today's Teddy K he's an
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OTG
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Adam Curry: kind of guy right? That's not the one I think this
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is the one OTG going oh, that's your song Baby right there.
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Who's
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John C Dvorak: gonna guy? Yeah, and then you did a bit on OTG
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TMZ Yeah,
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Adam Curry: we don't do that anymore. Because we lost
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everybody to tick tock so yeah, now we're just telling people to
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not listen at two times speed you know not kill yourself.
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Thank you, Brian. Nice idea. Yeah, not gonna happen. We do
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have some I received five column five and of show mixes all
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beautiful songs. I received a couple like from Sir Brian with
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an eye which are meant to be the equivalent of shoving bamboo
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sticks under your fingernails John, so I'm going to refrain
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from playing that. But it was good. It was good by the old
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standards. So get your singing caps on people. Sir Baron John
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Helmer from Shawnee Kansas our last donation This is very short
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eight donors for executive and Associate Executive producers.
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This is very very poor showing.
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John C Dvorak: Yes seven actually.
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Adam Curry: The UK right seven were to 1537 in the morning John
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Adams sending value for value $200 plus a show donation of
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1537. That's interesting way to do that like that. No jingles
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but I'd like a shot of sales karma to meet quota for the
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second half of our fiscal year. Thank you for your courage sir
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Baron John, Helmer Shawnee, Kansas so I will give you some
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of that sales karma so we're gonna go real quick here through
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the through the $50 donation. John's gonna give it to him when
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I get set up for our meetups everything short today and be
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very
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John C Dvorak: $2 Yeah, they are the meetups a short to learn
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Used to be called Gurney Ville when I was a kid they always
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flood flood it's flooded flooded city. 100 Boom. Kevin McLaughlin
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Hummelstown Pennsylvania 7773. I'll get a count on Kevin
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Mickelson's record. Okay, so getting into the Guinness Book.
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Adam Curry: You know, we could we could probably enter that.
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Yeah, it's worth probably worth try it.
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John C Dvorak: Worth a shot. Devin Roderick Painesville
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school teachers bent on what that means. Sir Kevin McLaughlin
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is back with 606 A small booth small boobs nice for these two
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guys. We'd be doing poorly. Yeah. Michael Bundy in
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Knoxville, Tennessee. 606 also small boobs. Adam keeps dragging
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and unresectable he's
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Adam Curry: no John. I don't do that. This John. What? What are
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you talking about? I'm father of eight human resources. We had
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the snip to be done with Kids The jokes are just part of
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accepting consequences of the choices we make. I don't rag on
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them. I'm proud of you
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John C Dvorak: and well, you've done well. You've done your
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part.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, you should just I mean, you must be tired
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brother. That's all I can think.
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John C Dvorak: 30 days probably still tired. Norristown
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Pennsylvania 5555 clock boy
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Adam Curry: clock boy has a message for us Don't forget to
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set your bombs forward one hour. Oh man, remember Obama he had
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clock boy come to the White House.
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John C Dvorak: Oh yeah clock boy the phony Highland heights and
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Kentucky's with this clock boy because of 5510 Yeah, then the
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next thing you know he moved to Libya. This is the clock boy
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situations what got me kicked off. Initially from the note
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from the from twit he'll report show.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, because you were saying it was bull crap.
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And they were all in on clock boy. Oh, yeah, they
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John C Dvorak: bought cluck boy hook line and sinker, which is
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what you can expect on most podcasts? Yeah, not this one.
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Kelowna I think is Kelowna BC and he's got a funny little note
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understand why fell off like that.
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Adam Curry: Well, it's because people are like, man, and no
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more good indoor show mixes we're just we're not gonna
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