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March 19th, 2023 • 3h 3m

1539: Putinoid

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John C Dvorak: groovy. Adam curry,
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Adam Curry: John C. Devorah. Today March 19 2023 This is your
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award winning combination media assassination episode 1539.
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Unknown: This is no agenda, feeling incredibly
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Adam Curry: Irie and broadcasting live from the heart
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of the West Indies Montego Bay, Jamaica in the morning,
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everybody. I'm Adam curry.
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John C Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley where we were
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wondering why there's such a preoccupation with disgusting
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toe fungus. I'm Jhansi Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: Wow, that's a comeback. I didn't expect. I
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didn't expect to toe fungus line.
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John C Dvorak: If you looked at an ad, every website's got toe
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fungus or scraping I'm there. Digging into the toe. There's
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putting goop on the toes is gross,
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Adam Curry: man. I know. This is Yes, of course. I've seen those.
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It's gross.
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John C Dvorak: It's totally gross. It's
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Adam Curry: gross. I'm in Jamaica.
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John C Dvorak: Why might that be?
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Adam Curry: Well, the keeper and I decided to since we had had
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not had a vacation last year, we as you recall it, it went to
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crap. Because of
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John C Dvorak: vacation where you couldn't get out of the
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country. What was it? Well, the
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Adam Curry: flight was canceled three times. And then by the
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time that could get us to Aruba, we would have exactly three
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days. So we said no. And then, of course I can't really take a
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full on vacation anymore because we dropped two shows already
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this year because of the procedure and probably at least
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another one end of April. Maybe not but maybe so we just we need
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to keep our quota up we really never drop more than two shows a
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year and this year might be three so and there's a direct
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flight from Austin to Montego Bay, if you can believe it once
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a week.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, drugs
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Adam Curry: it's actually a yes drugs. It's actually a regional
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jet. So it's, you know, it's a tiny one, two on one side when
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unless it's only three hours a three hour flight. They go
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straight, straight down in Montego Bay. Of course, it's
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once a week so if something's wrong on next Saturday, then we
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have to stay here another week. Unfortunately.
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John C Dvorak: Half Blizzard taking a flight of Key West or
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two. I'm sorry, Miami.
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Adam Curry: actually about the same. Except, you know, yeah,
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it's about the same. Let's get into this that bad. No, this is
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perfect. For just a quick
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John C Dvorak: little it's getting four hours to get to
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Hawaii.
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Adam Curry: Now of course, we have to drive an hour and a half
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to Austin first. Yeah, yes. Yeah. And yeah. And it was, you
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know, as the last weekend of South by Southwest. So we had to
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get there on time, because Oh, yeah, it was busy. Not as crazy
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as we've seen it before. But man, what is wrought, TSA has
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gotten I mean, they've gone completely to shit. Because you
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know, I'm carrying as the studio bag, I got the studio bag, and I
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got the microphone and headphones and another carry on
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bag. And, you know, so there's seven people at TSA seven. One
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of course is you know, to check your your ID make sure that
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you're okay, good to go. And then there's two at the scanner.
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There's two in the back. There's another one who to more than one
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more, who apparently is only his only job is to shuffle the bins
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around. Although they all take turns at the bins. I've seen all
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of them. And then there's one person who was checking bags
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with hand check. So here's how it goes. My bags go through.
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They spend five minutes together looking at my bag. You think if
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you saw something weird, just be like, Okay, let's have someone
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check that. No, no, they're pointing at it. They're looking
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at it. They're looking at me. They're looking at this. Oh,
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John C Dvorak: stop. I've no doubt you mentioned it. I've
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noticed this phenomenon.
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Adam Curry: I agree. It's ridiculous.
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John C Dvorak: Why are they looking and looking and looking
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at the bag? Looking at me your side? Why don't they just like
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you said push it over there and have somebody open up see what
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it looks like they don't to X ray it and
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Adam Curry: meanwhile, they stopped the whole belt. The belt
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is stopped while my
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John C Dvorak: first bag. Yeah. Production. Exactly.
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Adam Curry: Production there. And there's two of them looking
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now. One comes Oh, all right. So that goes up there. My second
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bag come to Oh, stop the belt. Well, we got pointed this, look
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at this. And you go through the layers, click click, click click
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Ma Ma It looks like a vibrator. Let's let's embarrass this guy.
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So it's 15 minutes before, before someone actually picks up
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my bag. Because they're just sitting there next to the
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sideline. Could one of them pick it up and go check it? No, no,
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there's one lady and she's doing everything. And then and then
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I've never understood this phenomenon. So then we'll take
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out the offending item which of course was really only my
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microphone and one bag and obviously two screens and The
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and the the road caster in the other and then we're going to
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put those in bins, put those things in bins to the belt and
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my bags without the offending items through the belt as well.
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I do not understand this it makes no sense other than and by
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the way these people to hate human beings security theater.
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Yeah. Oh, well we know that but they hate human beings. You can
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just tell and I understand. I'm sure it's a tough job. But back
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in the day when I was a kid, even with these crappy jobs, the
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way Americans would handle that would be good morning people.
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How you doing everybody? It's it's let's Wakey wakey let's do
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this. You know how it sucks, but we're gonna make a good day out
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of it. You know, someone would have pizzazz. It would be make
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it fun. Make the line laugh. Now you no one talks. They're just
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killing it man. Man Yeah, yes. My name. Ah, it's, we're doomed.
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Doomed. It's been 30 years since I was last year and went to the
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same place that I was 30 years ago. Most of the people who
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aren't dead still work here. Which is just crazy. I was here
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in my 20s and there's people here in their 50s Mr. Curry, you
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have a new wife. I had my last wife finally. I thought this
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place was was taken over by the Chinese but that's not true.
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Because I've asked every bus had Chinese and charged him now now
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now we've been holding that I really thought that they had
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control the island unless they are all got a gun to their head
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and I'm not allowed to say it. And you know the airport is just
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as nuts as twice as big, but it's just as disorganized.
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Complete, completely. Just chaos. Anyway, nice little nice
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a couple days here on the island. Now one other thing I'd
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like to say since this is it's been a while since I've been on
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the road. When was the last road trip I took Do you remember? Do
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you recall was that Florida? Maybe?
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John C Dvorak: I don't know. Sounds like it. Yeah, Florida.
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Okay, so
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Adam Curry: I have the portable kit which it's all the same it's
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the same hard drive external hard drive everything same
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except the computer and I just open up the certain Of course I
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luckily I did this yesterday before we left or the day before
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yesterday. Open up the windows machine the surface. And the
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first What do you think? What does this machine do? And I
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haven't touched it since then. Haven't haven't done anything.
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What does it update? Oh, yeah. Not just an update. Four hours
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of update you don't even get a chance to say you know what? I'm
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okay. It was working fine. I you know, you don't get to bypass
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that. No, it just does the update and the update and the
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update. And then every other applicant especially because you
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know we have Excel sheets. So I open up Excel with our
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spreadsheet. No, no suspicious activity. Because Excel was
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being opened somewhere else is being opened in Jamaica. No, you
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have to get a code. What is wrong with these people? And why
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can't I stop that either?
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John C Dvorak: Don't know, I see the same thing. It's with all of
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them. It's not just Microsoft Google.
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Adam Curry: Yes. Yeah.
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John C Dvorak: I've been having trouble getting on Amazon to buy
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stuff.
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Adam Curry: Where are you? Are you on an island to
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John C Dvorak: know Berkeley
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Adam Curry: It's an island we should cut loose. I did notice
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that our tea is blocked on the entire island that was kind of
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funny. Oh really? Why can't I get artsy and like ah Okay, time
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to hit the VPN. There we go. Yeah, at least I have in our
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last time I was here. It was Cable and Wireless. Which had
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you know like the equivalent of a dial up for the whole whole
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hotel you have to sit on the porch and wait two hours to get
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your mail through pop three. So at least they have they have
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good connectivity now and it doesn't you know and you can t
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mobile is here works you don't have to you don't have to pay $3
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a minute for a phone call. It's just the world is still not
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straightened out. very disheartening since our last
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show, and we deconstructed the BBB party that won 17 seats in
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the in the Dutch government. The Boer burka by vaping the farmers
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citizen build back better back better 666 Party is very, very
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disheartening to see so many journalists, you know, I'm
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looking at us Zero Hedge. We're like, oh, Farmer party. Yeah,
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that makes sense. No one does any research anymore. No. And
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then which makes me question all of these people right away. They
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all fell in mind. He was pretty good. Good because most Dutch
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people fell for it clearly because they voted for it. But
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man the deeper I get into the party, these people are all in
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on tiny homes. They're all in on the whole nitrogen bull crap.
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All Yeah, we got to save nature. The they're exactly what the New
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World Order wants
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John C Dvorak: I might add that's how you do it.
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Adam Curry: Well, yes, it's very well done. But you know, like
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what's his name? Michael solemn Sullenberger, you know, he was.
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He's a big anti climate change guy. In fact, he is the anti
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climate climate change guy. He sends out his substack. Well,
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look, the farmers can do it. The farmers. The people voted for
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the farmers. No, no, no. Anyway. That's why your no agenda show
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is here is to keep you safe from these kinds of scams, like the
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one one that is now being perpetrated tonight
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Unknown: former President Trump claiming he expects to be
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arrested on Tuesday and telling his followers to protest in a
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post on his social media app. Trump's saying he believes the
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charges will come from the Manhattan District Attorney's
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office payments. What was that?
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Adam Curry: It's been Manhattan ever since I've been to my house
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and
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Unknown: he believes that come from the Manhattan.
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Adam Curry: Now, this is a feat actually. We know that there's a
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skipping of the T's but to skip two T's doesn't don't two T's
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really tell you. You've got to put a t sound in there Am I
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nuts? Maha Manhattan,
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Unknown: Trump saying he believes the charges will come
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from the Manhattan District Attorney's Office and stem from
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alleged hush money payments that Trump made to adult film star
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stormy Daniels during his first presidential campaign. ABC News
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has not verified the claims. But later a Trump spokesperson
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appearing to walk back saying there's been no notification of
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charges from the DA blasting the investigation as a witch hunt.
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Adam Curry: blasting the investigation blasting. Okay,
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I'm going to tell you what I think about this Trump did this
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himself. He set this up. This was this was this was a hoax
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from the beginning. I saw these reports coming through Trump
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gonna be arrested and first and like Trump gonna be arrested. He
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might be indicted, but you can just as it goes, you can indict
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a ham sandwich. You're not gonna you're not gonna throw the ham
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sandwich in handcuffs and perp walk him. So and was all
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John C Dvorak: here, it's sure exactly what they left once.
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Well, yeah, they weren't a perp walk.
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Adam Curry: But this, but yes, but I think you know, Trump is
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seeing that DeSantis is getting traction, not for all great
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things. But DeSantis definitely is saying the right things about
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some topics. Now, despite his billionaire backing and back,
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you know, let's just take the Republican Party back to where
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it was. Everything's okay. You're still a slave, but
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everything's gonna be much better. Here's part two of this
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ABC report. Jay O'Brien
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Unknown: with us now from Washington and
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Jay, what more are you learning about the
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Maryland TAS investigation and any potential charges for former
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President Trump?
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Yeah, with all eyes on the Manhattan DA now they had no
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common today after that Trump post. These Grand Jury
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proceedings are secret, but we do know that stormy Daniels met
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with prosecutors just this past week and that Michael Cohen
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Trump's former fixer also testified before this grand
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jury. We also know that the DA is office told Trump that he had
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a right to testify before this grand jury himself. That's
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something that newer prosecutors typically do before they move
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forward with an indictment.
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Adam Curry: Now what before I played the German version of
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this report, which is kind of interesting anything you want to
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say about this, anything you've learned
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John C Dvorak: share, they have all this morning all the shows,
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they had most of want to talk about banking and all the rest
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of it. And this includes meat, the meat, the meat, the world,
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whatever it is, meet the
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Adam Curry: pundits.
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John C Dvorak: The one with a woman
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Adam Curry: with a woman who is not chipped hard, Chip,
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John C Dvorak: you know not to touch her. The other one. The
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one faced in a shelf
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Adam Curry: face the woman
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John C Dvorak: tastes. A woman which is a great
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Adam Curry: Campoli we just came up with that.
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John C Dvorak: That's a good day for the show. So face to woman
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and so she would ask you about banks. And what do you think
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about Trump getting perp walked you know, what do you think
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about Trump, everyone who came on she had to ask what do you
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think about this Trump thing? All right, so you're gonna get
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arrested? i You think it's like the whole thing is like who said
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why is Tuesday it reds tamale day? Taco Tuesday. Why is the
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Tuesday? Where did Trump get this idea as to Tuesday and
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every time he brought it gives him a little more time. But
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every time he brings it up, there is always a little jab at
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the grand jury for leaking. And I think they did. And I think
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the Democrats are leaking all this stuff, and just to make him
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look bad, and if nothing else is not going to disagree with the
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possibility this is all bull crap. It's all designed by Trump
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just to get attention, but it's also designed to stir up the
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other side because they don't know what to do. Whoa, what are
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we gonna do?
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Adam Curry: Fight Of course, we're gonna fight we gotta go
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fight, fight, fight here. Listen to the George Avella. two
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parter, actually, it was so funny. How they look at this.
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Here's the here's kind of the intro with the news guy. And
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then we'll go to the the pundants
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Unknown: welcome. So, so many back to the Trump circus,
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because here is the former president knowing something
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nobody else apparently knows. And that is that he's gonna get
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arrested next Tuesday. He says, and for that matter, he calls
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for protests. That is a message to his faithful he is back on
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YouTube. He's back on Facebook, he will and is expected to
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become to come back to Twitter soon now. He's still
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disseminating his messages on his own networks is to social.
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So nobody gave any official word of that in arrest or indictment.
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Actually, that's the more accurate thing and processing
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the President is going to happen anytime soon. You're absolutely
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right. This is the so called stormy Daniels case, the hush
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money case seven years in the making, and the Manhattan
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district attorney is expected to bring charges against the former
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President Donald Trump, that would be a first time that we'll
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make and what makes whenever it's going to happen for some
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awkward moments. Because as you know, the President is supposed
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to be protected by the Secret Service. Former presidents are
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protected by the Secret Service to so they would have to
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basically accompany him for his processing. That means taking a
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mugshot and taking his fingerprints electronically. The
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Secret Service making sure it's it's all happening safely.
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Weird.
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Adam Curry: Weird, weird. He is he's calling to his faceful.
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Okay. So I think there's actually a better analysis than
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anything I saw on on American news. Take
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John C Dvorak: this herb that sounds better. I haven't heard
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that one. But it does sound better than the crazy stuff
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we're getting. Now. Here's
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Adam Curry: the second part.
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Unknown: Right? Stiff on in these post Trump wrote to his
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followers, I read it out to you protest, take our nation back.
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This carries really unmistakable echoes of the types of messages
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he was posting leading up to the January 6 attack on the Capitol.
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How worried are authorities of a repeat of that perhaps should
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trump be indicted?
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Yeah, right on this is exactly what they are
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Adam Curry: afraid. I love this guy. Yeah. Right on he's he's a
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German from the 70s. He indicted?
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Unknown: Yeah, right on, this is exactly what they are afraid of
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now, truth being told, and in all fairness, nobody expects
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Trump to has had to have still the the power to, you know,
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Marshal these kinds of crowds, and specifically not in New York
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in Manhattan to protest for him and against a possible
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indictment. But of course, authorities are concerned and
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they're meeting and that is FBI. This is New York Police
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Department, of course, Secret Service, as mentioned before,
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all those agencies and many more, they're meeting for at
18:36
least a week or two now behind closed doors and try to figure
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out okay, what are we going to do if there is a protest? What
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measures are we taking? And you can be assured that these
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preparations are well underway for in case for the case that
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it's happening, that there will be many, many hundreds or 1000s
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of protesters? Whenever this is going to happen? What the
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president's former president is predicting to happen here?
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Adam Curry: Ah, thank you, George.
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John C Dvorak: Good question came to mind. Sure. And I don't
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again, this whole thing is definitely something you just
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have to wait and see sketch. I say the least. Yes, yeah. If he
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was indicted in an award went out with the secret, Sir, his
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own Secret Service people have to arrest him by law. No, they
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have to defend him by law. Don't think wow. Oh, the Secret
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Service is a law enforcement agency. Listen to this.
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Adam Curry: Listen to the rain. Oh, man. It's crazy. raining.
19:40
Yeah. Well, that's a tropical climate. So it'll storm for a
19:42
moment here. It'll make it really noisy through the noise
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gate.
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John C Dvorak: It gets a little humid.
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Adam Curry: It gets a little human. Yeah. You know, I
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John C Dvorak: can hear it.
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Adam Curry: Wouldn't they have to defend him? I mean, now now,
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which their law enforcement
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John C Dvorak: agency wouldn't have to arrest him. I don't
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know. Well, the Secret Service are not personal bodyguards.
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Adam Curry: No, but they are there to protect him. So the
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question, yeah,
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John C Dvorak: but that wasn't mean. Well, that obeying the
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law.
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Adam Curry: I don't know what their priority is.
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John C Dvorak: Law. I think that's a question is why this is
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interesting, because I bet you somebody in the audience knows
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the answer to that question.
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Adam Curry: But I think that actually they work for the
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Treasury. They don't work for
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John C Dvorak: the law enforcement.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, about money. Isn't it? My mother also?
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John C Dvorak: I don't know. Now we see. We're just showing you
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what we don't know. And I'll show
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Adam Curry: but but at least we don't say Right on,
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John C Dvorak: right on far out. Groovy.
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Adam Curry: I want to write on you wanna hear the NBC report,
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which includes all the scores,
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Unknown: what do we know about Cohen's testimony? And how
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damaging does it appear to be for former President Trump?
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Well, we know that he's really the key player other than
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Trump's
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Adam Curry: himself, and this guy is out on the street. And he
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has, you know, I'm learning to play this. I forgot. He has his
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earbuds in and he's using that as a microphone. This is NBC
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NBO. Yes. Listen, how muffled he sounds
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Unknown: in this transaction, and that he's the one who set it
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up. He's actually the one who made the $130,000 payment.
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Adam Curry: He's actually probably doing it on FaceTime.
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Is it NBC,
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John C Dvorak: I never blessed NBC. Oh, that's the NBC should
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be ashamed. And
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Adam Curry: we're not going to play that. That's that's just
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too too nasty.
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John C Dvorak: Anyway, I actually have no I don't think I
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even have one's loan clip on this topic.
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Adam Curry: Well, it because I was seeing it everywhere. And I
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go, I should probably
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John C Dvorak: know, somebody's got to do it. Clip something
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about this. Yeah.
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Adam Curry: Now what I have now for me the next story booth
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would be actually it's no coincidence, I guess, as we
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have. Let me see. We have President former President Trump
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possibly being arrested. And we have a similar situation with
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current President Putin. So
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Unknown: thank you very much. The the actual arrest warrant is
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not publicly available. There has been a statement issued
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today by the ICC, where they specify a little bit what this
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is about. And, as already mentioned, before, it is put in
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as being accused of being responsible for the war crime of
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unlawful deportation of population and their their
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specify children, and that of unlawful transfer of property of
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the unlawful transfer of these from occupied areas of Ukraine
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to the Russian Federation. The ICC or the investigator of the
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ICC, is saying that there are reasonable grounds to believe
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that Mr. Putin bears individual criminal responsibility for the
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for these crimes. So this is basically what has been put
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towards putting.
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Adam Curry: So this is again, Georgia Bella report. I have a
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US report, but I thought this was interesting. You know, we
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know that the International Criminal Court that has no
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standing neither in Russia or in the United States, China torch
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but it's 127 countries have bought into this. And so they
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were already talking about, you know, having a special tribunal
23:28
that is attached to the ICC, but that wasn't really feeling good
23:32
because it was only about the crimes of aggression. So they
23:34
upped the ante and said what can we do high No.
23:37
Unknown: Throws to
23:37
Adam Curry: Devon, the kidnapping of children is CBS.
23:42
Unknown: Russian propaganda claims the country is trying to
23:45
save Ukraine's children and that the hearts of Russians are big
23:49
and benevolent. But the International Criminal Court
23:52
today was clear. Russia is kidnapping and re educating
23:56
children as rushed re educated, accused of war crimes our
24:00
President Vladimir Putin himself and real Lova Lova the director
24:04
of these alleged abductions, why make it would be impossible to
24:09
commit such a criminal operations as president Solinsky
24:12
without the order of the top leader of the terrorists states,
24:16
Moscow has denied the accusations and does not
24:18
recognize the ICC.
24:23
John C Dvorak: That poor blonde woman got sucked into this.
24:27
Can't go to Paris
24:29
Adam Curry: so now every now everyone has an opinion because
24:31
you know, the ICC Oh, everyone has opinion and
24:34
Unknown: Vladimir Putin will not be arrested as long as he stays
24:37
in Russia. But if he travels to any ICC member country, 123 of
24:42
them the US by the way, is not a signatory. That warrant means
24:47
that he could be arrested.
24:48
Adam Curry: Now this was great how they positioned that so he
24:51
could be arrested the us it was really good. Just the ending
24:55
here.
24:56
Unknown: By the way is not an hour 123 of them. The US by The
25:00
way is not a signatory, that warrant means that he could be
25:03
arrested
25:04
Adam Curry: me just bakes that into the sentence. That warrant
25:07
means you could be arrested but not in America. But oh, that's
25:10
John C Dvorak: you, right? That's a very curious structure.
25:13
Adam Curry: It was like it was edited in almost an odd way.
25:17
John C Dvorak: It's one of those things, it's a non sequitur. So
25:20
no question.
25:22
Adam Curry: So, you know, he can't travel because yeah, he's
25:25
gonna get arrested, not in the US, but you're gonna get
25:27
arrested, you're gonna get arrested. And then
25:29
Unknown: the Russian news agencies are saying that
25:32
Vladimir Putin is in Mariupol. I would be careful when we see
25:36
pictures. We know that Vladimir Putin he also uses doppelgangers
25:40
for visits. And he's not known folks.
25:43
Adam Curry: Did you see this? So Putin is in Mario Pol. He's in
25:47
the movie theater there that apparently the Russians bombed
25:50
and killed everybody in the theater. But you know, let's
25:54
just make sure Deutsche Bella points out that he uses
25:57
doppelgangers all the time you know, so this is this is
25:59
probably not the real Putin all of a sudden, they're using our
26:03
conspiracy theories.
26:04
Unknown: No doubt Vladimir Putin also uses doppelgangers for
26:07
visits. And he's not known for traveling around on the
26:10
frontline, however, be it him beat a doppelganger. Well, this
26:15
is highly seen as a provocation.
26:18
Adam Curry: That's not me, by the way. That's this lady. Oh,
26:22
yeah,
26:22
Unknown: this is seen as a provocation on two levels. The
26:27
first one is that Vladimir Putin, he's a head of state, but
26:31
now it's been two days. He's also been a wanted war criminal.
26:35
He so this is a provocation towards the international
26:39
community. First and foremost, it also shows her later he cares
26:43
about about the search warrants issued by the International
26:48
Criminal Court. The second provocation, of course, is
26:52
towards Ukraine itself. He's traveling in occupied
26:55
territories, and he's traveling to the city that has really been
26:59
seen here as a martyr city as one where war crimes were
27:04
perpetrated, you know, at a scale that really shocked not
27:07
just in Ukraine, but also internationally. Of course, I'm
27:10
talking about Mariupol. I'm talking about this bombing on a
27:14
hundreds of civilians who were taking shelter in the theater,
27:20
their thesis, one of the war crimes that will be
27:23
investigated, both here and by the international community.
27:27
John C Dvorak: Where does this report come from
27:29
Adam Curry: Deutsche Avella?
27:30
John C Dvorak: Don't they get better people than her?
27:32
Adam Curry: Well, this was the connection. She was you know,
27:35
she's on her own iPhone. Or as they say, endorsed on iPhone.
27:40
And so yeah, she just has a crappy connection. But as she's
27:44
saying, you know, this doppelganger, no response and of
27:48
course, Putin is not really him. It's a doppelganger, a
27:51
doppelganger. And instead of, you know, when he's in the
27:57
theater, that's just clearly a fake theater just can't be
27:59
right. You know, hundreds of people were killed there. While
28:02
he's his, of course, his propagandists from him from him.
28:06
He's walking around in the theater that he supposedly was
28:08
responsible for blowing up. So the propaganda wars are on and
28:14
it's fun back to CBS back to CBS.
28:16
Unknown: What's the likelihood that Vladimir Putin will ever be
28:19
held accountable? He
28:20
hasn't been indicted. He's not like, extradite,
28:22
Adam Curry: unlike Trump, he hasn't even been indicted. mean
28:25
we treat Putin better than Trump.
28:27
Unknown: What's the likelihood that Vladimir Putin will ever be
28:29
held accountable? He
28:30
hasn't been indicted, he's not likely to be extradited to the
28:33
Hague anytime soon.
28:34
Adam Curry: extradited to the Hague, I mean, these people are
28:37
insane.
28:38
Unknown: He's still firmly in control of, by the way,
28:41
Adam Curry: how can you even say this, knowing that the United
28:45
States does not recognize the International Criminal Court and
28:49
even suggest that he is not likely to be extradited to the
28:53
Hague? The whole thing is just the mainstream media and five
29:00
average comic it's comic, yeah, they're going nuts.
29:03
Unknown: What's the likelihood that Vladimir Putin will ever be
29:06
held accountable, he
29:06
hasn't been indicted, he's not likely to be extradited to the
29:09
Hague anytime soon. He's still firmly in control of Russia and
29:13
no sitting leader has ever faced such charges. But it could be
29:18
the beginning of something here because the court went straight.
29:21
Top didn't go low level and build. And so for blondes to
29:27
come,
29:28
Adam Curry: they pick her up. I don't think they picked
29:31
John C Dvorak: me they picked on her Oh, yes. That mo but she
29:34
can't go to Paris anymore. The poor woman
29:36
Unknown: top they didn't go low level and build. And so it
29:40
suggests that there's more of a case to come as Ramy said
29:43
traveling could be more helpful if he tries to leave and can
29:47
only now go to friendly countries. But here in the US,
29:51
Adam Curry: he went to Ukraine, a friendly country. Well done.
29:55
People
29:55
Unknown: traveling could be more difficult for the Putin if he
29:58
tries to, and can only now go friendly countries. But here in
30:02
the US, we know that the bind administration is already
30:04
building a case and looking towards future charges
30:08
potentially of genocide. They've identified 43 camps holding at
30:12
least 6000 children and as Secretary Blinken said, this is
30:16
an attempt to really erase Ukraine's identity and its
30:19
future. Some of these camps are closer to Alaska than they are
30:22
to Ukraine.
30:23
Adam Curry: So we went from kidnapping to genocide in 53
30:27
seconds. So it first it was re educating, re educating the
30:32
children take him to camps, kidnapping. Now it's genocide,
30:36
because you're brainwashing them into and taking them away from
30:39
you. It's the future of Ukraine. These children, what are those
30:44
children even doing? When were they taken? And how can we're
30:48
only kind of did we know about this? I don't remember any of
30:51
this. Oh, yeah. We had it. We had this was
30:53
John C Dvorak: the this was the evacuation of the kids in
30:57
Donbass area only. Before they blew they started. It was it was
31:03
it was they moved into Russia. So, for safekeeping. There was a
31:07
lot of reporting on this. It was always done. The early
31:09
reporting, which is at least six months ago was it was as a
31:16
humanitarian thing I have.
31:19
Adam Curry: What is this? This is from November 2022,
31:26
Unknown: a Ukrainian company revealed its new body armor for
31:29
children designed to where as they evacuate the war zone, they
31:33
go
31:34
Adam Curry: well, but where were they evacuating? Was that to
31:38
Russia? That report from ABC makes it sound like the
31:41
Ukrainians were evacuating them?
31:43
John C Dvorak: Well, in some cases they weren't depends on
31:46
where they spoke Russian or Ukrainian. I mean, a lot of it
31:48
had to do with the ethics background of the kids. Okay,
31:51
we're taking the Russian kids got it to Russia. So I guess
31:56
that's Kidambi now I have a series I didn't want to bring
31:59
these in right now. But I always have clips about show you what
32:03
kind of propaganda that our side is doing. Good. This This is
32:08
Mark glum, man, I don't normally do tea.
32:12
Adam Curry: Because he is he the great wine?
32:14
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's the great one. Okay, any Hannity,
32:16
which is funny to watch because of the two big promoters of the
32:19
war.
32:20
Adam Curry: Yeah, on Fox, the fox war war twins, the war twins
32:24
John C Dvorak: live in zone. Sundays, but Levin's got a radio
32:27
show. And he promotes the war and thinks that everybody's he
32:33
just basically promotes the war. But you have to listen to him
32:36
when he goes on one of his rants. And I've got three clips
32:40
where he's describing the problem, the reason that we
32:42
should all be on board, and I want you to listen carefully and
32:45
tell me what you think of this analysis. This is Mark Levin on
32:50
Ukraine raping.
32:52
Unknown: I've talked about here, Vladimir Putin. Whenever you
32:55
think about what's going on over there. This man is a monster.
32:58
And what they're doing to the Ukrainian people is horrendous.
33:01
And there is video of this. There's pictures of this. They
33:05
can't show it on TV. It's so horrific or the monk the Russian
33:09
soldiers are decapitating people. I'm talking about
33:12
citizens. They are gang raping the women. The leaving the
33:17
condoms right next to them. Then they murdered them.
33:21
Adam Curry: Oh my goodness.
33:24
John C Dvorak: Hold on a second. Hey, Ivan. No raping without
33:27
condom. Kind of
33:30
Adam Curry: raping is this this is not a good rape.
33:32
John C Dvorak: Hold on a second was your raping. Get that condom
33:35
on buddy.
33:36
Adam Curry: Wait take your Viagra first hold on hold on we
33:39
got the patent the emergency packets here it's always the
33:42
same.
33:43
John C Dvorak: Now the other thing about the raping with
33:45
condoms, which is just ludicrous. If you think about
33:48
it, is that then you raping and you kill? Now the the
33:53
traditional historic raping process is to overtake the
33:58
genetics of the of the land that you're conquering. And in the
34:03
women
34:03
Adam Curry: that's that is the Yes. That's why you're not doing
34:07
it just for yucks. Well, maybe I don't know
34:09
John C Dvorak: where I'm at. That's why half of the public in
34:12
the United States and around the world has epicanthal folds on
34:16
their eyes is because of the Mongols who went into Eastern
34:19
Europe and raped everybody and put this genetic little gene
34:24
into everybody's background and you have this look that everyone
34:28
has a lot of people have
34:29
Adam Curry: i didn't i this I've never heard this discussed
34:33
anywhere. And by the way, it can be very triggering if we're just
34:37
laughing about raping which is not funny at all. So I want to
34:40
say we're we understand this No,
34:41
John C Dvorak: I'm I'm we're not laughing at raping. We're
34:45
laughing at the stupidity of these commentaries. Yes. Because
34:49
they make no sense.
34:51
Adam Curry: Oh man, I but I had never really thought about it.
34:55
But the mongrels who were raping to spread the
34:58
John C Dvorak: the Mongol manga Congrats on mom growls on models
35:02
role models goal.
35:04
Adam Curry: Sorry about that. Yeah. This is so messed up. And
35:12
does he have any evidence for this? It is a war.
35:14
John C Dvorak: They can't. There's lots of videos but they
35:16
won't show him it.
35:17
Adam Curry: Has he seen them? I mean, why doesn't he want to
35:19
have no idea?
35:21
John C Dvorak: He's just this is the most ridiculous thing I've
35:23
ever heard
35:24
Adam Curry: before. After they they blow up the toilets that
35:26
they hate so much.
35:28
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Toilet blowing up, they dropped to drop
35:31
the ball on that. Here's another little they've gone to clip to.
35:35
Unknown: They are enslaving the children. But I've talked to you
35:38
about before, and they're shipping them to reeducation, or
35:41
if you will concentration camps in Russia and giving them to
35:44
families.
35:46
John C Dvorak: Okay, now that just now, how do you go within
35:51
just a short period of time for two enslaving the children
35:54
sending into reeducation camps and then giving them to families
35:58
all in? What a week? I mean, don't you have to do some degree
36:04
and enslave the children? Don't you enslave them it takes a
36:07
while you know to get your money's worth. And then get your
36:10
money education takes at least six months. This is crazy.
36:18
Adam Curry: This was on on his fox show.
36:21
John C Dvorak: This is on his radio daily radio show
36:23
Adam Curry: on his radio show was guys nuts.
36:27
John C Dvorak: And well let's vid since you're doing this.
36:29
Let's go with the clip tree.
36:32
Unknown: And even though this analogy is made too often,
36:34
that's Nazism. That's exactly what that is. That's exactly
36:37
what that is. People are having their faces smashed in with.
36:42
sledgehammers. hands are tied behind their backs. They're held
36:46
down. People are being burned alive. In their corpses are
36:50
found the side of the street, they're finding mass graves from
36:54
these little towns that they conquer. And then when they're
36:58
pushed out, they slaughter the people there. That's what
37:01
they're doing. And that's not being told to you by the peut
37:04
noids or whatever they call themselves.
37:07
Adam Curry: The why the peut noids
37:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that'd be Tucker Carlson. He hates him.
37:13
Adam Curry: Oh, is that a cute Noid
37:15
John C Dvorak: he's a cute Noid now
37:17
Adam Curry: Goodness gracious this guy is first of all, screw
37:20
this guy. I mean without one shred at first Okay, war, of
37:24
course atrocities happen in any kind of war. They would say
37:28
there's atrocities in the United States on on this level every
37:32
single day that we don't talk about. But But this level of
37:36
this is this is really unconscionable what he's saying
37:39
and do you think that people are bought quote unquote, buying
37:42
this from him?
37:43
John C Dvorak: But his his fans I'm sure are but the idea that
37:48
this war which is a war of attrition, as has been brought
37:51
up? Yes. Where do you just get killed you stand after you're
37:53
dead? You have to be very careful. You're not going to go
37:58
around. Hey, there's a Ukrainian let's grab him. Hold on. Ivan.
38:03
Let me find a sledge hammer, which I just lugging around for
38:07
no known reason because I need a sledge hammer. And let's tie
38:11
this guy behind his back let me Sledgehammer his head. Who has
38:14
time for this bull crap. It's insane. So I mean, this is the
38:19
kind of stuff you get on talk radio in the United States from
38:24
guys that are pro war
38:27
Adam Curry: is really disturbing. It would be
38:30
described you'd get a kick out of it well, and the kick is not
38:33
the right word. My goodness. Um, I concede I was I think I was
38:41
pretty wrong about the about the jet fuel on the drone. Yeah.
38:47
Although, I was pretty sure it wasn't to light the jet fuel on
38:51
fire. That was my thing.
38:55
John C Dvorak: That'd be a funny idea.
38:57
Adam Curry: So I did get a note from Dhotre. He's a Navy
39:01
fighter, pilot and, and trainer. doTERRA and you got it. He says
39:09
the su 20. Sevens were indeed dumping fuel from the video you
39:12
can plainly see the fuel trail coming from out of the aft
39:15
section of the fuselage. Most operational military aircraft
39:18
had the ability to fuel dump when dumping it does look like a
39:22
vapor trail as you were describing because it is a vapor
39:24
trail. It's a vapor trail of fuel. I know because I've done
39:28
1000s and 1000s of pounds of JP five in my career. I don't know
39:32
if I should be telling this. I've also been sprayed by FAA
39:35
teams who forgot to turn their dumps off when waving them onto
39:37
the ship. John C's idea that they were dumping fuel to try
39:41
and set it ablaze is incorrect. Jet fuel is purposely blended to
39:46
increase its Flashpoint. I II will not ignite without a really
39:49
hot and sustained heat source.
39:51
John C Dvorak: This is true. He says my guests I used to be in
39:55
charge of JP for JP five when I was at Union oil Tim Make sure
40:00
that it was it didn't have a lot of you have to be careful. It's
40:03
got to be very dry.
40:04
Adam Curry: What is what exactly is JP is that just a great a
40:07
fuel jet?
40:08
John C Dvorak: Jet something jet propulsion? Yeah, it's a great
40:11
it's a great of kerosene as a matter of fact. Okay, it's a
40:15
very high grade of kerosene.
40:18
Adam Curry: The SU 27 aircraft did strike the propeller of the
40:21
UAV he says I believe inadvertently and it was simply
40:24
a case of the es su 27 pilots being a holes my guess is they
40:28
were airborne they got boards all the contact decided to play
40:31
that game
40:33
John C Dvorak: and get closer to highlights.
40:35
Adam Curry: Well, he fitted a dump fuel on it since there are
40:38
oh, we must prohibit rules of engagement must prohibit
40:41
engaging directly. The second jet misjudged his closure and
40:45
his vector and his tail hit the prop when he was pulling away
40:47
from it during his run.
40:51
John C Dvorak: Now, here's a question that I would like to
40:54
have him answer Sure. So they show clearly in one of the films
41:00
The prop had a loading and at the prop had a little band at
41:03
the end without
41:03
Adam Curry: the stripes.
41:06
John C Dvorak: And why couldn't it continue to fly around?
41:10
Adam Curry: Well, one of the here's what I saw and at first I
41:12
clearly saw that there was stripes in one shot and no
41:18
stripes on the other I don't know exactly what happened or
41:21
but one of the props was also feathered. So you have now two
41:26
blades basically in operational they think they who knows where
41:32
they even were or what altitude we don't know much.
41:36
John C Dvorak: But they did show one shot of you can see Crimea
41:39
from
41:40
Adam Curry: Canterbury hard to tell altitude from the ground up
41:43
or from Yeah,
41:43
John C Dvorak: I'm not saying it was up or down. I'm just saying
41:46
it was close enough. You can see the island or whatever that
41:49
whatever.
41:49
Adam Curry: Yeah, whatever it was. We don't know. I mean,
41:53
there's I mean, and then people are going to try deconstructing
41:55
this forever. Because I saw the blade thing and you know, there
41:59
was they didn't have the the Russian star underneath the
42:02
wing. There's lots of things that are out there. But when the
42:04
Navy jet fighter pilot and trainer says this us I think we
42:08
just have to stop at least I feel like I'm going to stop now.
42:11
Because otherwise I'm just making himself look foolish. And
42:14
although I'm itching and then of course we have the had the Jets,
42:21
the the old clunkers going from Poland to Ukraine, which is
42:27
which is also interesting.
42:29
Unknown: Earlier, we spoke to our correspondent manuals
42:30
shares, she explained that the new jets won't necessarily make
42:33
much of a difference on the ground.
42:35
Adam Curry: So this is interesting. This is France 24.
42:39
Now, you know, I don't know exactly how many old jets the
42:42
polls are going to send, but they're old. So they probably
42:45
have and you know this the rep contacted them from the military
42:49
industrial complex. Hey,
42:50
John C Dvorak: can you get rid of your MIG 29?
42:53
Adam Curry: Get rid of that old crap, we're gonna sell you some
42:55
new stuff and you're gonna like it, you're gonna buy it. So what
42:59
what that lead in is they're not going to make much difference.
43:03
Tell me where this lady actually said that or if she even what
43:09
she's really saying at all.
43:10
Unknown: Earlier we spoke to our correspondent manuals shares She
43:12
explained that the new jets won't necessarily make much of a
43:15
difference on the ground,
43:16
Adam Curry: which of course makes sense because a jet
43:18
doesn't make much difference on the ground. Unless you're
43:22
striking people on the ground.
43:24
Unknown: Just the full planes that are going to come up for
43:27
Adam Curry: for planes.
43:28
John C Dvorak: Is it as strafing
43:30
Adam Curry: What did I say
43:31
John C Dvorak: strafing
43:32
Adam Curry: I met Well, my teeth are messed up strafing strafing
43:37
John C Dvorak: certified
43:39
Adam Curry: for jet it's for big deal or for
43:43
Unknown: for Chadds Ford.
43:45
John C Dvorak: Just blow him up over the troops maybe this stuff
43:48
falling down or kill someone on the ground
43:51
Unknown: just the full pains that are going to come out of
43:54
the ones that are going to make a difference however if more and
43:57
more planes are coming this could be obviously a game
44:00
changer at a time where Ukraine is gearing up for what oh
44:04
Western experts
44:05
Adam Curry: I don't understand she says it's not going to make
44:08
much difference for but if more calm Oh yeah, that'll be a game
44:11
changer. What's the level?
44:13
John C Dvorak: Eight Yeah, what's your number? Where's your
44:15
where's your line? Where's your red line?
44:16
Unknown: I think will be a counter a spring counter
44:19
offensive. You were mentioning Baramati it's a war of attrition
44:23
there a war that costs probably 1000s of lives you know it's
44:28
been a war that has been
44:30
Adam Curry: there's your war of attrition which I didn't the
44:32
first time you said it I didn't it didn't even catch on with me.
44:36
I didn't really but now I'm hearing it all the time the war
44:39
of attrition which is the way you World War One Yeah, the way
44:42
you explain it is who who loses more people. That's what that is
44:46
actually.
44:47
Unknown: The positives of lives. Uh, you know, it's been a war
44:51
that has been waging for for for over seven months there with
44:57
Wagner mercenaries seven months
45:00
Adam Curry: Oh, she's talking about Bob moot. Is that what it
45:04
is? That's why because it's been more than a year.
45:07
John C Dvorak: I know, I have no idea
45:08
Unknown: trying to launch, you know, dozens of offenses a day,
45:12
but also miniature experts are seeing that perhaps we've seen
45:16
the combination of those fights already. And it's, you know, and
45:21
the Wagner mercenary group simply don't manage to break the
45:25
Ukrainian defense heavy, heavy losses on both sides, but for
45:29
for each five to seven Russian. So these are mercenary of Wagner
45:34
who dies as one Ukrainian soldier who dies. So both, you
45:38
know, both sides have casualties but but really this the Russian
45:43
troops?
45:44
Adam Curry: I'm also getting pretty tired of this Wagner
45:46
group, Wagner is that the only people who are left fighting is
45:49
the Wagner group.
45:50
John C Dvorak: That's what it sounds like to me.
45:52
Adam Curry: I mean, so there's a rushes out of people, it's only
45:54
mercenaries.
45:56
John C Dvorak: I you know, this is not very well done this, this
45:59
whole analysis.
46:00
Unknown: I losing a lot, a lot of personnel, a lot of equipment
46:05
there and you were mentioning bomba. Shelling is continuing
46:09
over the region on top moot on valida, which is also a fierce
46:14
battle. And in Donetsk, of course, civilians are bombed.
46:18
There was a shelling last night, which killed one person and
46:21
injured several others.
46:22
Adam Curry: I heard from military contacts. Which at this
46:27
point, I don't believe anybody, but I really don't I mean, who
46:31
can you believe this whole thing could be wag the dog? I mean,
46:34
from both sides?
46:35
John C Dvorak: I really don't know. I'm not going to argue any
46:38
of that. We have very little
46:39
Adam Curry: casualties to show I mean, I'm getting video from
46:43
from somewhere in the region. And it's pretty horrible. You
46:46
see Ukrainians, dead Ukrainians, dead Russians, I mean, all kinds
46:50
of stuff. But I'm getting information that the explosive
46:55
ordnance guys the or the good ordnance guys that they say 90%
47:01
of all buildings destroyed in Ukraine are from Ukrainian
47:07
artillery. They just whatever they don't even know what
47:12
they're doing, apparently but. But there's from that it's that
47:16
it's not from Russian artillery, but Ukrainian artillery that
47:19
that's been destroying yet
47:20
John C Dvorak: data. But don't you remember that was from the
47:22
beginning. We've had this issue. When there were Ukrainians who
47:26
were bombing their own buildings or che or they would say, look
47:29
what the Russians did. Yeah. It was almost a year ago. It's
47:32
almost like
47:33
Adam Curry: they down that MH. The Malaysian Airlines flight or
47:37
that
47:37
John C Dvorak: that Grey Ghost guy, whoever it was, Oh, yeah.
47:40
Oh, yeah.
47:40
Adam Curry: That guy? Where's he? Where's he flying the four
47:44
jets? And it seems like even if you have four jets, you could
47:48
probably take out some military installations. It would make a
47:50
difference on the ground. This whole thing is sketch and the
47:54
worldwide press.
47:55
John C Dvorak: You said you say I don't know. I'm saying too
47:57
much.
47:57
Adam Curry: You're right. Yeah, what should I replace it with?
48:01
sketchy? Oh, sketchy. But even with this where the word comes
48:05
from, but if I had taken one letter off the word if I had
48:09
said sketchy twice, you would have called me out as
48:11
John C Dvorak: well. No, no, this sketch is like merch.
48:15
Adam Curry: Wow, I need to flog myself for that. That's bad.
48:20
Alright, let's let's go back to CBS and see what else we have on
48:23
Russia. And
48:23
Unknown: yet, President Xi of China still plans this trip on
48:27
Monday to stand side by side next to Putin. Will this affect
48:31
any of that?
48:32
Will he go? Well, China itself is accused of carrying out
48:36
actively a genocide against minorities does NSI
48:39
Adam Curry: everyone, everyone?
48:41
John C Dvorak: We got a genocide guy here. And we got a genocide
48:44
guy there. The genocide boys, Jenny
48:49
Adam Curry: brothers, that's right against
48:51
Unknown: minorities. Does it bother Xi Jinping to stand next
48:54
to an accused war criminal? We'll see. But what we know has
48:58
been happening is that as the West tries to isolate Russia,
49:02
that tie between Russia and China has only grown grown
49:05
stronger through trade and increased work together. The
49:09
White House is saying it hasn't yet seen weapons transferred for
49:13
use on the battlefield in Ukraine. But they're
49:15
increasingly concerned that there may be a military alliance
49:18
between China and Russia.
49:20
Adam Curry: Wow, man, these people aren't that mean? Do they
49:23
get up and take off their uniform before they go to work?
49:28
These people they just love war that all jacked on war and
49:31
jacked on just using genocide just willy nilly. And what
49:38
happened? Our genocide of the American Indians forgot about
49:43
that. Alright, then we have a last one from the CBS more I'm
49:47
sorry, this is ABC. Now it here
49:49
Unknown: in the East in the cover of darkness. A Ukrainian
49:51
special drone unit heads out towards the frontlines,
49:55
Adam Curry: Ukrainian special drone unit. So let's just
49:59
specify drones in this drones. The drone that got hit by the
50:03
Russian fighter jet that's a proper drone. That's a drone
50:09
drone drone. This thing is like an Amazon drone. No, this
50:12
John C Dvorak: is like what do you get for Christmas? around
50:17
the house.
50:18
Unknown: Special drone unit heads out towards the front
50:20
lines. The team works fast only using minimal light. They don't
50:24
want to alert Russian reconnaissance. This is the
50:27
Punisher a fixed wing drone assembled in minutes. It can fly
50:32
so much further he can fly deep behind enemy lines and open
50:37
carry more ordinance. Take a look at this. This is two
50:41
pounds. Well, I suppose the Punisher can fly up to 40 miles
50:47
during missions like these are critical to support frontline
50:49
troops. And as these videos from the Ukrainian Wait, what
50:52
Adam Curry: did they call drone technicians 40 miles during
50:55
missions like the drone nations,
50:57
John C Dvorak: no drone missions like oh drone
50:59
Adam Curry: missions I thought
51:01
Unknown: it can fly up to 40 miles during missions like these
51:04
are critical to support frontline troops. And as these
51:07
videos from the Ukrainian military show, they aim to hit
51:10
ammunition stores artillery positions, even suspected
51:13
leadership locations
51:15
upon Usher
51:18
Adam Curry: to heck man this is and this is all it's really I
51:22
predict this this season. This Christmas season in stores hey
51:27
kids get it now. Dark Corner sure you can be like the
51:30
Ukrainians on the front lines with honor shark Yeah, yeah, I'm
51:38
so sick of this. It's just like, can we stop now? I'm, I can't
51:44
believe it. But I'm, I'm I'm just I'm begging for GE to put
51:48
an end to this nonsense.
51:51
John C Dvorak: Let's hope he can. Because we're not going to
51:56
Adam Curry: know we're in fact we're just stacking it up a
51:58
little bit. You know, I've been looking at evaluating Africa
52:02
what's going on everyone's visiting Africa. Everyone's in
52:05
Africa and Africa nuts and and now new share is the latest and
52:11
who shows up a new Share? Well, of course it's got to be a
52:14
Blinken us Antony
52:15
Unknown: Blinken is to be the first US Secretary of State to
52:17
visit Niger amid concerns over the health security and the
52:20
growing Russian influence. West African country has become an
52:24
increasingly important partner for the West in the Sahel. There
52:27
have been successive coos in Mali and Burkina Faso and
52:31
there's been the growing influence of Russia's private
52:33
mercenary group.
52:35
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's a Wagner group. They're
52:37
everywhere. The Wagner group, what happened to Academy and Z
52:41
and Blackwater are our guys. Are they just all out of business?
52:46
Or is it the same guys?
52:48
John C Dvorak: I think there's got to be some crosstalk right.
52:51
Where did Eric Prince go? I mean, he's the key guy to figure
52:55
out if you want to know what's going on and no one's
52:57
interviewing him.
52:58
Adam Curry: I think he became a venture capitalist. I don't know
53:00
what it became. Exactly. So what is worse so what is going on in
53:05
these year why all the by the UN troops have been in Mali?
53:12
They've been rotating in rotating out the Dutch were
53:14
there the Americans were there the front what is going on? In
53:18
Asia? What's happening? Oh, well, France 24 will actually
53:22
tell us that desert
53:23
Unknown: landscape in niches Northern Ireland region, the
53:26
list advanced countries home to one of the world's largest
53:29
Uranium reserves. The main source of nuclear fuel, is one
53:33
of the EU and France's largest suppliers, and French nuclear
53:37
giant Aramco is looking again at a potential site in the region
53:46
of about 200,000 tons of uranium for Aramco or Christmas bolt in
53:54
2015. And we are relaunching the project following several
53:59
hydrogeological studies that lead us to believe that the ISR
54:04
method may be very interesting for the exploitation of this
54:07
deposit. This method involves using chemicals to dissolve
54:11
uranium from the rock that is still in the ground and pumping
54:14
it to the surface rather than conventional mining so they have
54:19
some kind of
54:19
Adam Curry: new technology
54:20
John C Dvorak: oh my god I can just imagine what that is is not
54:24
going to be at technology want to be around it's going to ruin
54:27
I don't even know I mean, I could be dead wrong it could be
54:30
using saltwater but I doubt it. Well, it's got to be like
54:35
hydrofluoric acid or some damn thing they're going to do and
54:39
it's going to poison the area.
54:42
Adam Curry: So you share cares Yeah,
54:44
John C Dvorak: who cares the share when present make and even
54:47
Adam Curry: though I don't have any clips Turkey after you know
54:52
after they switch the earthquake machine on Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
54:56
You want to be a NATO you want to be the guy stopping it? Oh,
54:59
yeah. Here's one earthquake, which you don't hear anything
55:02
about. It's overwrite that earthquake might as well just
55:04
not have happened. 40 50,000 people dead they say,
55:10
John C Dvorak: minimum,
55:11
Adam Curry: Trump proven Poland they will now start to start
55:17
ratifying Finland's NATO application. Which I love this.
55:23
So Finland who has quite a border neighboring on Russia,
55:27
they think it's a great idea. Oh, yeah, let's be NATO now. I'm
55:30
sure I had this one a second. I understand. I can I'm sure I had
55:35
this.
55:36
John C Dvorak: Well, they also bitched about the fact that
55:37
Sweden's not going in with them. Yeah, I haven't I've of course
55:41
had big hang up and nobody really quite knows how to deal
55:44
with it, which is Hungary still says no. But they said they're
55:48
gonna say yes,
55:49
Adam Curry: here's, here's Yen's. Now this was a a two
55:53
minute clip, which I shortened by 40 seconds just by taking out
55:58
the pauses.
55:59
Unknown: I welcome to this decision by Turkey yet to move
56:02
ahead. Turkey I'm sorry, Turkey. With the ratification of
56:05
Finland's membership in NATO. This was strengthened finance
56:09
security, it will strengthen Sweden security, and it will
56:12
strengthen NATO. I hope that the Turkish Grand National Assembly
56:17
will vote to ratify as soon as possible. At the NATO summit in
56:22
Madrid last year in all allies made historic decision to invite
56:26
Finland and Sweden to join our alliance. Since then, we have
56:30
seen the fastest ratification process in NATO's modern history
56:34
at the critical time for our security. This will make our
56:37
alliances stronger and safer. Our recently listed trachea and
56:41
met with the president of Iran, the President and I agreed to
56:44
convene a meeting of trachea, Finland, Sweden, at NATO
56:48
headquarters at that meeting last week, all recognized that
56:53
considerable progress has been made in implementing the
56:57
trilateral memorandum signed in Madrid, and that rapid
57:00
notifications for Finland and Sweden are in everyone's
57:03
interest. The most important thing is both Finland and Sweden
57:08
become full members of NATO quickly, not whether why they
57:12
joined at exactly the same time last position to invite both
57:17
Finland and Sweden has fundamentally strengthen the
57:20
relationship with NATO. As a consequence, their security is
57:25
much enhanced. They're sitting around NATO's table integrating
57:29
into our political and military structures, exercising more with
57:34
allies, and both countries have received bilateral security
57:37
assurances from many NATO countries, including the US, UK,
57:43
Germany and France. So it is inconceivable that NATO would
57:47
not respond should either Finland or Sweden come under
57:51
attack their security matters. Okay. I look forward to a rapid
57:55
conclusion of the accession process and to welcoming both
57:58
Finland and Sweden to the NATO family members as soon as
58:03
possible we
58:04
Adam Curry: are family so you think Hungary is going to buckle
58:09
John C Dvorak: Hungary says they already did but I mean they say
58:12
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna sign out we just had
58:14
to do this. They got some big get some paperwork. And it was
58:18
supposed to be done by Christmas. But the FedEx didn't
58:20
arrive at us. They're still stalling. I think they're going
58:24
to continue to stall for a while hoping this war ends and maybe I
58:30
think they're just going to stall I mean, they're going to
58:33
have to Dave's already agreed to say yes, they just haven't
58:36
severed they're dragging their eyes dragging their heels.
58:40
They're Dre exactly
58:42
Adam Curry: meanwhile Be on the lookout for the next the next
58:46
this is great. Meat kill net kill net Russia's hacking
58:53
patriots plaguing Europe. Nice alliteration political pro
58:59
Russian hackers hit countries taking action against Russia for
59:03
its war in Ukraine. Right
59:06
John C Dvorak: away we should stop you I want you to finish
59:08
that obviously but I which people should always have in the
59:11
back of their mind that the great hackers are in Ukraine.
59:15
Yes. They're in Ukraine the Russians is takes it back
59:20
they're back seat was never it's probably three or four after the
59:25
Iranians beside the point that our tools the Buzet
59:32
Adam Curry: nine What is it vault nine? That was rice. Um,
59:37
yeah. Which can be used to make anything
59:38
John C Dvorak: look like Russia. Yeah, looks like Russian says
59:41
what to do.
59:42
Adam Curry: And ragtag group of Russian activists is targeting
59:45
European governments infrastructure, even its prized
59:48
Eurovision Song Contest. I can't wait for the song contest this
59:55
year. They're doing that with cyber attacks and disinformation
59:58
campaigns. Oh, yeah, they're gonna they're In a determined
1:00:00
they're gonna hack the winner when that'd be great we're gonna
1:00:03
be if they hack the voting of the Eurovision Song Contest put
1:00:06
it in the red book please. I think kill net kill net will be
1:00:12
hacking the Eurovision song they put political put this in here
1:00:16
for a reason in the first graph of this whole article the pro
1:00:22
Kremlin hacker collective by the name of kill net has launched a
1:00:27
barrage of this is inflammatory a barrage of attacks on Western
1:00:31
government networks and critical infrastructure this summer
1:00:34
loudly claiming victories on social media channels and in
1:00:39
Russian media and causing headaches for Russia's
1:00:43
adversaries and security authorities. Fancy Baron
1:00:49
sandworms a new one sandworm is now have you heard of sandworm
1:00:54
John C Dvorak: sounds like a CIA product?
1:00:58
Adam Curry: I'm gonna put that as sandworm please. Well, I hope
1:01:01
that they attack the it's in the UK this year the Eurovision Song
1:01:05
Contest a proxy for Ukraine who of course one last year.
1:01:11
John C Dvorak: What a coincidence.
1:01:12
Adam Curry: Isn't that great? Wow. I love that. I thought this
1:01:15
is great. I love the kill net kill net kill net. Okay. All
1:01:23
right. Let's talk about our stupid president. I see a whole
1:01:26
you got a whole bunch of clips about Biden and you've promised
1:01:29
this you've teased this for two shows in a row. I'm excited. I'm
1:01:32
excited to laughs
1:01:35
John C Dvorak: Okay, well first of all, before we go to the
1:01:37
clip, the clip blitz of Biden. I do want to bring up a couple of
1:01:42
since it was St. Patrick's Day yesterday or sorry, Friday. We
1:01:46
do have a couple of classic Biden always says something
1:01:52
about being Irish and St. Patrick's Day I have to I have
1:01:54
to this year's 2023 teetotaller clip I want to play hold on hold
1:02:00
on
1:02:00
Unknown: Ruth through through.
1:02:03
Adam Curry: Blues classic classic clip Blitz.
1:02:07
John C Dvorak: Well, this is not ready yet. Except this Blitz is
1:02:10
gonna be Let's go 2023 teetotaller
1:02:13
Adam Curry: I got you okay,
1:02:14
Unknown: I'm the only Irishman you ever met notice never had a
1:02:17
drink so I'm okay. I'm really not Irish. So
1:02:23
Adam Curry: where was this where it wasn't?
1:02:25
John C Dvorak: It wasn't one of these little cars. It was just a
1:02:27
recent little one. Meet and Greet? Wasn't anything
1:02:32
Adam Curry: we saying? I'm the only Irishman you'd never seen.
1:02:34
I've never had a drink. I'm not even Irish. Okay, and people ha
1:02:38
You're so funny.
1:02:40
John C Dvorak: One day we just have a drunk or not drunk bit
1:02:43
based on that guy. And we did that work now in 2020 I believe
1:02:48
this is 2022 this is the clip that everyone plays where it
1:02:50
says I'm I'm Irish but I'm not stupid. Which was the which was
1:02:59
an insult of course to the Irish because Irish obviously stupid
1:03:03
and he's not. But the full clip has
1:03:06
Adam Curry: never played what's here's the short version first.
1:03:09
Is that what I'm doing here?
1:03:10
John C Dvorak: No, there's only one version and it's the 2022
1:03:14
stupid and it's the whole at four seconds. And it's got a
1:03:16
little tidbit at the end which says to me Wait a minute, and
1:03:19
then it brings up another prop problem.
1:03:22
Unknown: I may be Irish but I'm not stupid. I'm married Dominic
1:03:25
que kopas daughter.
1:03:27
Adam Curry: Well, let me listen again. I didn't hear that
1:03:30
properly in the listening.
1:03:31
Unknown: I may be Irish but I'm not stupid. I'm married Dominic
1:03:34
que kopas daughter.
1:03:36
Adam Curry: I married Dominic Jia kopas daughter.
1:03:39
John C Dvorak: That's Joe Biden. his granddad is Dominic jihad,
1:03:43
not his daughter. But the granddad was Dominic Gioconda.
1:03:47
They changed their name to Jacob does an Italian that Sicilian
1:03:51
family where she comes from and I don't think that's why Jill
1:03:54
Biden was going to get the money then it turns out that money
1:03:57
went to 100. But you know, the money we're talking about who
1:03:59
got to Who's the other person that getting the money from
1:04:01
China and last show, and there was a mysterious Biden involved
1:04:06
which turned out to be the the widow of Hunter Biden, but we
1:04:12
always thought Joe Biden was the head of the crime family and
1:04:15
diamond, the GIA COPPA family.
1:04:17
Adam Curry: Well, just because you know this No, just because
1:04:22
she didn't get this money doesn't mean she isn't still
1:04:25
ahead of the whole Biden crime family. It's in her genes. It's
1:04:29
in her DNA.
1:04:30
John C Dvorak: She's a Sicilian. And I don't want to say that all
1:04:34
Careful, careful,
1:04:35
Adam Curry: careful, careful. We love you mafia. We
1:04:38
John C Dvorak: love you guys. We love the Soprano's Jesse,
1:04:42
buzzkill Jr's wife is Sicilian. And
1:04:47
Adam Curry: watch your back.
1:04:48
John C Dvorak: Watch your back your back. I'm always careful
1:04:50
around here. So
1:04:52
Adam Curry: wow, I had no idea about this.
1:04:56
John C Dvorak: I didn't either and when I heard this, and I
1:04:58
looked into it, because they always clip that off, they
1:05:01
always clipped that off. Oh, and it was like a gaff anyway
1:05:05
because that's the granddad's name. They changed. They moved
1:05:09
that they came over from Sicily and they change their name to
1:05:12
Jacob. And
1:05:16
Adam Curry: came to me me doesn't have a horse does she?
1:05:21
John C Dvorak: Yeah, me, me, me me is actual Smith from the
1:05:24
Adam Curry: pilgrim, Alias Smith and Jones.
1:05:28
John C Dvorak: I don't know about that. So Biden goes on.
1:05:32
Adam Curry: Even though it's kind of it's kind of weird. I
1:05:35
think it deserves a clip of
1:05:39
John C Dvorak: Thanks, David. That was not expected.
1:05:42
Adam Curry: But it's certainly deserved. Because that was
1:05:44
amazing. I did not know this.
1:05:46
John C Dvorak: I didn't know know it either. In fact, I did
1:05:48
it. It kind of bugged me that they've actually kept a
1:05:52
suppressed chair. So here we go. All right. So Biden goes on
1:05:57
Comedy Central with this guy, a Kalpen. He's an Indian. This is
1:06:03
the
1:06:03
Adam Curry: daily show where the Daily Show?
1:06:05
John C Dvorak: Yep, yep. Kalpen is actually should be called
1:06:09
Calvin. Calvin Modi. He's really He's an Indian American. Okay.
1:06:16
And he is gay. Outwardly gay. And he makes a big fuss about
1:06:20
it. Outwardly gay. Well, actually, no, I take it. It's
1:06:25
just gays not outwardly gay would be Tommy's flamboyant.
1:06:30
Adam Curry: flamboyant. He's he's out. I don't think he's
1:06:33
out. He's openly gay.
1:06:35
John C Dvorak: He's out. That's what I meant out gay. Not
1:06:38
outwardly. Okay. Good. Thank you. Okay. So there's a whole
1:06:43
series of short. Here's a whole bunch of short clips that were
1:06:47
this was the worst interview I've ever seen. Or
1:06:51
Adam Curry: you mean the best really?
1:06:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I guess I do that. So here we go this out.
1:06:58
Here's the premise. This is clip one, the premise of the listen
1:07:01
to this premise. And you can see why, why this is already going
1:07:04
to be bad.
1:07:05
Unknown: We talked about our divided country, and how young
1:07:08
people's advocacy can affect policy on climate drilling and
1:07:12
human rights,
1:07:13
Adam Curry: climate drilling, and human rights, which is a
1:07:18
trifecta I had never considered,
1:07:21
John C Dvorak: I've never considered either. And his whole
1:07:22
concern is about he's a climate change nut ball. So everything's
1:07:27
Oh, claim me, we're all gonna die. So here we go. This is a
1:07:31
little bit and I'm going to play clip two, this is a short 14
1:07:34
seconds, which indicates to me the host, this guy, cow. This
1:07:38
guy's bigotry.
1:07:42
Unknown: And I remember just four years of of policy and
1:07:46
vitriol under Trump, and now things feel more divided. So I,
1:07:50
I was curious how you feel that we can stay hopeful? And how can
1:07:55
we get the country to unify
1:07:58
John C Dvorak: policy and vitriol?
1:08:01
Adam Curry: That's interesting.
1:08:04
John C Dvorak: So here we go. Here it goes. We go with Biden.
1:08:07
And right away we go to the old tropes. And we're going to start
1:08:10
off with trope number one and clip three.
1:08:12
Unknown: The truth of the matter is has never been more
1:08:13
optimistic in my entire life. But no, no, I mean, now, I tell
1:08:18
you what, look, if you think about it, the reason I had not
1:08:22
argued my words.
1:08:24
John C Dvorak: I was gonna clip that separately. I'll tell you
1:08:27
why. Think about it. Look, I mean, it's pretty jams all these
1:08:30
trode things right into one little package. I think it's
1:08:33
just dynamite.
1:08:34
Unknown: I tell you what, look, if you think
1:08:36
Adam Curry: about it, I'll tell you what, I tell you what, look,
1:08:38
if you think about it, we can we can do this ourselves. I'll tell
1:08:41
you what, think about it. Look,
1:08:42
Unknown: I mean, now, if you think about it, the reason I had
1:08:48
not I give my words Biden I hadn't planned on running again.
1:08:52
I had lost my son Beau. It was a tough, tough time, and I wasn't
1:08:58
gonna run it all for real. And then remember what happened in
1:09:03
Charlottesville. Then President Trump said there were very fine
1:09:06
people on both sides. And I give my word that's what I said. I'm
1:09:10
gonna do this.
1:09:11
Adam Curry: Yeah, that was his whole reason for running. Was
1:09:14
this lie?
1:09:18
John C Dvorak: Okay, so he's gonna keep with this. So that's
1:09:20
never going away. No, no, thanks to Scott Adams trying.
1:09:25
Adam Curry: Where? Where's Scott Adams? Is he finally gone and
1:09:28
done.
1:09:29
John C Dvorak: He's still on YouTube. Oh, okay.
1:09:31
Adam Curry: Well, as long as you're still on YouTube, He's
1:09:32
okay. He's safe. But, you know, it's like people are Hey, man,
1:09:36
check out Gilbert. He's doing value for value. I'm like, No, I
1:09:38
have to sign up for something that's not value for value.
1:09:43
John C Dvorak: Not when there's a firewall No, that's not value
1:09:45
for value. That's the debt that's that should mention we've
1:09:48
got our books in for the too many eggs.
1:09:53
Adam Curry: The printer has done
1:09:55
John C Dvorak: too many eggs.com. Go check it out and
1:09:57
get just go get a free copy that there's no firewall
1:10:00
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, that's the way it should be donate.
1:10:02
John C Dvorak: What would a firewall up? That is not value
1:10:04
for value? It's called a firewall. All right, here we go.
1:10:09
Is Biden on climate?
1:10:10
Unknown: I never would have imagined 12 years ago that
1:10:13
something as sweeping on climate as the inflation Reduction Act,
1:10:19
would have happened. So Mike, my question really, and I was
1:10:24
watching all of this unfold is who or what created the
1:10:28
political space for you to take that kind of action?
1:10:31
Young people, young people, generation, that generation
1:10:37
between 18 and 35. Now, they're the ones that created the space.
1:10:41
They had enough of it. And enough of it. I mean, they
1:10:44
showed up in the 2020. Election, they showed up in the 2022
1:10:47
election, and we passed the largest environmental plan, and
1:10:52
all of history over $360 billion
1:10:57
John C Dvorak: inflation Reduction Act, has anybody
1:11:00
noticed there's something wrong with this picture?
1:11:02
Adam Curry: Could it be the inflation problem?
1:11:05
John C Dvorak: There's like he says, Oh, you did the biggest
1:11:07
climate thing you've anyone's ever done you in the inflation
1:11:12
rates? What's inflation got to do with this?
1:11:15
Adam Curry: Well, that's how they hoodwinked everybody into
1:11:17
voting for the snow shit. Yeah, how's that? How's that? trend
1:11:23
Trend, transitory inflation working everybody?
1:11:28
John C Dvorak: Onward to clip five
1:11:29
Unknown: why the first meeting I had with the so called g7, they
1:11:34
want to talk about what was my initiative on energy on dealing
1:11:37
with moving toward, for example, I called all them automakers and
1:11:42
truck makers. And I asked him to come to the South Lawn first
1:11:45
year, and try to talk him into doing something more than going
1:11:50
electric. And within five weeks, all of them agreed that we're
1:11:55
going to go electric 50% by 2030. And by 2050, all electric.
1:12:04
John C Dvorak: Now he starts off by, first of all, he says the so
1:12:07
called g7.
1:12:11
Unknown: That again, why the first meeting I had with the so
1:12:14
called g7 Want to talk about what was my initiative on
1:12:18
energy?
1:12:19
John C Dvorak: They didn't know, didn't they? They didn't I guess
1:12:23
I don't know what
1:12:25
Adam Curry: think what he's okay. Here's the problem. His
1:12:28
initiative on energy was the inflation Reduction Act. And the
1:12:32
so called g7 includes the so called EU who were so called
1:12:36
very pissed off, that all of the subsidies, this is why clean
1:12:40
Ursula went to Washington, that all the subsidies were only for
1:12:44
us products, and that and that they basically screwed the so
1:12:47
called g7 partners, by not giving any of our money, our
1:12:52
printed money to them for their bullcrap initiatives. That's why
1:12:56
he's saying that because they got all bent out of shape, and
1:12:59
still not over I mean, clean. Ursula came in and got some
1:13:02
assurances, but we'll have to see.
1:13:06
John C Dvorak: Yes, that's
1:13:08
Adam Curry: what they did get some inflation over there. So
1:13:11
congratulations, you got a part of our inflation Reduction Act,
1:13:13
everybody good work.
1:13:16
Unknown: That six, you're also responsible for reviewing
1:13:19
drilling and oil production? Yes. What would you say to those
1:13:22
young people who want you to continue to be their champion,
1:13:26
but might not think that you're going far enough or fast enough
1:13:28
on climate?
1:13:30
Well, first of all, we're going to fashion anyone's ever gone,
1:13:33
we're going to need fossil fuels for at least the next 10 years.
1:13:37
It's not like tomorrow, we can turn it all off. Number one. And
1:13:41
so we're going to need fossil fuel. But we have to do is we
1:13:44
have to I have I've said no more drilling off our ocean, I mean,
1:13:48
a whole range, but there still has to be, there has to be the
1:13:51
ability to generate some energy. But we can get rid of coal much
1:13:56
more rapidly. And and by the way, for example, I was up in
1:14:01
Massachusetts, the largest coal producing electric facilities in
1:14:05
the nation. Well, guess what? We hooked it up to wind technology.
1:14:09
And so now and it's cheaper, we can do solar we can do when why
1:14:15
cheaply than we can do fossil fuel.
1:14:19
Adam Curry: First of all, it's when technology Okay, I want you
1:14:21
to know, we figured out when technology and it's cheaper.
1:14:27
John C Dvorak: Since when is it cheaper?
1:14:30
Adam Curry: Well, since the inflation Reduction Act paid for
1:14:33
it, of course.
1:14:35
John C Dvorak: So that's a lie. Yeah. Pretty blatant. Wow. But
1:14:41
let's continue because this guy's all in. So let's go. The
1:14:46
next was, I guess.
1:14:48
Unknown: There is Magga Republican portion of the party.
1:14:51
It makes up about a third of the Republican Party. But there's a
1:14:54
lot of people in the Republican Party who are traditional
1:14:58
Republican, conservative Republicans. so that you can
1:15:00
deal with, but you know, these, you know, the gentlewoman from
1:15:07
the state of Georgia and the mountains up there and others
1:15:10
gates and anyway
1:15:12
that's very diplomatic. I would have used different language but
1:15:15
no but
1:15:18
Adam Curry: wow, wait a minute, wait a minute. What exactly went
1:15:20
down there?
1:15:23
John C Dvorak: Whatever it was, it was diplomatic. He would use
1:15:26
different language you would give it to him.
1:15:29
Adam Curry: This of course was now this interview happened a
1:15:32
week ago, I
1:15:32
John C Dvorak: think right. Yeah, it was just before the
1:15:35
Yeah,
1:15:36
Adam Curry: it was just before the willow project got approved.
1:15:40
Yes, it
1:15:40
John C Dvorak: was pretty sure
1:15:41
Adam Curry: up in Alaska, so that's why he was already
1:15:43
hegemonic. We got it. We got to do a little bit of drilling. And
1:15:45
when I got Yeah, I got to satisfy one of my biggest donors
1:15:49
up there. You know, I was like, as we got to do a little bit of
1:15:51
a little bit of drilling just a little bit just just so you
1:15:53
know, it's a little bit there's gonna be and by the way, where's
1:15:56
all the hydrogen talk? Because we know that it's going to
1:15:59
hydrogen This is beyond him. No, okay. Right. Got it. Because
1:16:03
he's still building the charging stations. He's
1:16:06
John C Dvorak: the charging stations and windmills,
1:16:09
Adam Curry: which is when technology John, when
1:16:11
technology, please don't just call it a windmill. The Dutch s
1:16:16
is Ventana loci tilting at wind technology. There you go. All
1:16:23
right. Eight.
1:16:25
Unknown: I think so. My focus is just stay focused.
1:16:35
Adam Curry: Stay focused, man. Oh, man, your president of the
1:16:41
United States ladies and gentlemen.
1:16:44
Unknown: Wow, that's great.
1:16:46
John C Dvorak: That's actually my favorite clip.
1:16:48
Adam Curry: In fact, but then I hope you just made that an ISO.
1:16:51
That's just been ISO for the
1:16:53
John C Dvorak: i gabbeh Dare as the ISO if you want to use an
1:16:55
ISO. Yeah, you maybe save it? Yes. Save it. No, save, save.
1:17:00
Adam Curry: It'll be my name is my ISO. No, I claimed it.
1:17:03
John C Dvorak: Okay. Now, here's the here's the guy. This guy.
1:17:08
He's not only gay, but he's very vain.
1:17:12
Adam Curry: Hold on. I'm sorry. I just got to hear it one more
1:17:14
time.
1:17:15
Unknown: My focus is just stay focused.
1:17:21
That's great.
1:17:22
John C Dvorak: That's that's most people pulled back the the
1:17:24
clip of it. No kidding.
1:17:26
Adam Curry: No kidding.
1:17:28
John C Dvorak: So the guy the vein guy called Calvin, Calvin
1:17:32
Modi. He has let us know that he's gay. And then he's got a
1:17:36
list you know, he's gonna ask a question but he decides to talk
1:17:40
about himself a little bit here in clip nine and it's like an
1:17:44
eye roller.
1:17:45
Unknown: I wanted to I wanted to ask you a slightly different
1:17:47
question. So my partner Josh and I have been engaged for the last
1:17:51
five years which really only means that every auntie and
1:17:54
uncle that I have Hold on
1:17:55
Adam Curry: a second five years what's wrong with you? What's
1:17:59
wrong with him? Five years is too long to be engaged. I'm
1:18:02
sorry. I don't care what relationship you have. Your this
1:18:05
is not going to work out five years too long.
1:18:07
Unknown: My partner Josh and I have been engaged for the last
1:18:09
five years which really only means that every auntie and
1:18:12
uncle that I have is beyond disappointed that there hasn't
1:18:15
been a wedding yet. But But Cardi B is going to marry us
1:18:18
apparently officiate our wedding, which would which would
1:18:20
be nice. But my my question for you. This President is
1:18:23
Adam Curry: Oh my god. Cardi B is going to officiate our
1:18:29
wedding, which apparently we should be nice because she said
1:18:32
so on Insta
1:18:36
John C Dvorak: is that pathetic? Or what?
1:18:39
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, that really is.
1:18:41
John C Dvorak: Is is it an interview with the President of
1:18:44
the United States? Well,
1:18:46
Adam Curry: considering considering his level of
1:18:51
cognizance
1:18:53
John C Dvorak: ended up yes. But still, yeah, that was the nerve.
1:18:57
I mean, to start talking about yourself and your buddy jaw, or
1:19:02
your your fiance. Aw, Cardi B. And so I thought that was the
1:19:07
Adam Curry: gross and really are your aunties and uncles in
1:19:10
India, they're really disappointed about the wedding.
1:19:15
I don't know that. I don't know too much about Indian culture.
1:19:20
But you gotta wonder if that's the only problem they have. I
1:19:23
think we're pretty pretty okay. In America with this. I'm not
1:19:25
sure how cool India is with that. Do we know actually,
1:19:28
John C Dvorak: NACA? Yeah. I felt the same way when he said
1:19:31
that I'd like
1:19:32
Adam Curry: we have Indian listeners. We have Brahmins. We
1:19:36
have Brahmins. We'd like to know what what's the jam mostly
1:19:39
Brahmins? Actually, I'll tell you like in Jamaica. This is not
1:19:42
acceptable. Homosexuality is a big problem here in Jamaica.
1:19:47
They do not like it historically that just that like No, no, no.
1:19:52
So not the Jamaican India the same but I'm curious now.
1:19:57
John C Dvorak: These Well, I think your curiosity is well
1:19:59
founded. Let's go to the last as the last clip and it's like,
1:20:02
this was titled BS galore.
1:20:05
Unknown: You codified support for same sex marriage and
1:20:09
interracial marriages like, like ours. I'm curious what your
1:20:13
evolution was like on marriage equality and what the government
1:20:19
might be able to do to protect LGBTQ Americans, especially
1:20:23
trans kids who are dealing with all these regressive state laws
1:20:27
that are popping up right now.
1:20:29
I can remember exactly where my epiphany was okay, I hadn't
1:20:33
thought much about it. And I was a, I was a senior in high
1:20:37
school. And my dad was dropped me off. I remember about to get
1:20:41
out of the car and I looked to my right. And two well dressed
1:20:44
men in suits, kissed each other. mean they give each other a
1:20:48
kiss. And then one went looked like he was heading to the
1:20:51
DuPont building one look like he headed to the Hercules
1:20:53
Corporation building. And I never forgot to turn look to my
1:20:57
dad. He said, Joey, it's simple. They love each other. It's
1:21:01
simple. No, I'm not joking. It's simple. They love each other.
1:21:05
And it's never been. It's never been. It's just that simple. It
1:21:12
doesn't matter whether it's whether same sex or heterosexual
1:21:17
couple, you should be able to be married. What is the problem?
1:21:23
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. Okay. So I remember exactly how this went
1:21:30
down. His because, you know, Obama was supposed to be the Big
1:21:36
Gay uniter during his administration, and if you
1:21:41
recall, it was oh, Biden. who usurped the president and said,
1:21:46
you know, yeah, we're pretty cool with gay marriage. It's all
1:21:50
good. And that was supposed to be Obama's. Do you remember
1:21:52
that?
1:21:53
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. And that was that, which is
1:21:55
interesting, because before that, Obama, Joe Biden was the
1:21:59
most anti gay marriage guy. So we already got the law. Here it
1:22:04
is. So they can always have a union. They don't have to get
1:22:06
married. He went on. Right, right, right. And by the way,
1:22:08
those two buildings he described were the two guys who just kiss
1:22:11
was going to go into our seven miles apart. Somebody pointed
1:22:15
this out that the DuPont bill is nowhere near as high school
1:22:18
where he's got dropped off. So the whole story is bogus. He
1:22:21
made it up, which is why I said I'm not joking, which I've
1:22:25
identified previously as a tell, for out and out lie. And this
1:22:31
story is a crock of shit. And he's ended the other guys
1:22:34
lapping it up.
1:22:38
Adam Curry: Wow. I gotta say something about this, because
1:22:43
actually, the keeper and I were talking about this this morning.
1:22:46
And it starts. So it started with pronouns, which I'm
1:22:51
against, because pronouns, the only reason for pronouns is to
1:22:56
disrupt the parent child relationship. So that your child
1:23:02
can say to you, Mom, Dad, it's them. It's they, which is is
1:23:08
fun, and that to be a cultural thing, I think is fundamentally
1:23:14
a bad idea. But that's where it started. And everyone's like,
1:23:19
Oh, you know what, whatever, you know, what do you whatever you
1:23:21
want your pronoun to be, by, no one uses a pronoun to the
1:23:25
person's face, who has a pronoun, you never say, hey, how
1:23:29
he doing? Now you never say that. And now, we have
1:23:36
lieutenant governors of us at North Dakota, saying the
1:23:39
following and I quote, When our children tell us who they are,
1:23:44
it is our job as grownups to listen and to believe them.
1:23:48
That's what it means to be a good parent. And that's where
1:23:51
all these these laws are coming from, which is made call me old
1:23:56
fashioned. But no, no children aren't moronic. Indian, probably
1:24:06
until they're 30. But okay. You can send them off to war when
1:24:09
they're 18. So that's kind of a cultural thing we've decided is
1:24:12
okay. Which I also don't like. But, but, you know, John, do you
1:24:19
remember in 2000, I'm gonna say 11. Maybe we identify, I
1:24:25
remember very distinctly saying, Hey, what is this bullying law
1:24:29
stuff? What happened to stick it was in the evening laws, it was
1:24:32
bullying at school and at that point, and this is how fast it
1:24:36
went. We were saying what happened to sticks and stones
1:24:38
will break my bones but names will never hurt me. And you
1:24:41
know, stand up to the bully. And then we got Oh bullies at
1:24:44
school, we can't be bullied at school. And then we got bullying
1:24:47
laws, which brought in hate speech laws. And then we got the
1:24:50
pronouns. I mean, the frogs are cooking. When our children tell
1:24:55
us who they are, I'm a fireman. Oh my goodness. And please
1:25:04
respond to ice kill
1:25:05
John C Dvorak: Jr. When he was a little kid was a robot for at
1:25:08
least a year. What am I supposed to do?
1:25:14
Adam Curry: What did you do? Did you believe him?
1:25:16
John C Dvorak: I know you played two or three play three
1:25:18
characters in it for life. I mean nobody in the family can
1:25:20
remember the third one. But he played the robot he'd be a robot
1:25:24
for a while or you'd be jock, strong waiter.
1:25:29
Adam Curry: Not Jacques Cousteau. You'd be shocked the
1:25:31
waiter.
1:25:32
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Jackie Do you have a towel around his over
1:25:34
his arm and he go they bring us glasses of wine or whatever we
1:25:39
wanted. This lasted for about six months. Hey,
1:25:44
Adam Curry: shocked, shocked go made me some craps.
1:25:49
John C Dvorak: But it's like, okay.
1:25:52
Adam Curry: Oh, wow.
1:25:54
John C Dvorak: I remember when I was a little kid I played with
1:25:56
dolls I play I like dolls they were fun to play with. And then
1:26:00
I didn't want to have my dick cut off because of it.
1:26:03
Adam Curry: Okay, okay, calm down, John. Calm down. Easy,
1:26:07
does it. Yeah, gender dysphoria is a thing that really exists.
1:26:12
But it's very, very small percentage of people. It's
1:26:14
John C Dvorak: very rare and it's not to be promoted. Until
1:26:20
people got to go through their process of having their their
1:26:23
actual growth hormones and everything now go to fruition.
1:26:27
They can't just stop in the middle of everything and see the
1:26:31
dicking around with you know, some idea. When, but that's
1:26:36
fine. I mean, I that's a completely opposite view of
1:26:40
every liberal in the Bay Area. They think no, no, you need a
1:26:43
kitchen to determine everything is like like you said, a moronic
1:26:47
kid, they should be given the right to vote according to a few
1:26:51
people. Because they they vote for climate.
1:26:55
Adam Curry: Now when when busca Jr. was shocked, did you tip
1:26:57
him?
1:27:00
John C Dvorak: No, that would have probably encouraged. I
1:27:03
still trying to remember what the third character was he liked
1:27:06
to play.
1:27:07
Adam Curry: I think that's great. I mean, Christina was a
1:27:09
Power Ranger. I remember that you and she was very serious
1:27:13
about the Power Ranger deal.
1:27:16
John C Dvorak: I think when I was a kid, I was a cowboy.
1:27:18
Because we me and another kid were always dressed up as it was
1:27:21
always Hopalong Cassidy and Roy Rogers. Yeah, sure. And we had
1:27:27
the guns and the holsters and we shoot at each other constantly.
1:27:31
Nowadays, I don't know you get thrown into a reeducation camp
1:27:35
if you did anything like that.
1:27:38
Adam Curry: It was so weird. We had dinner last night. And so
1:27:42
probably the guy who's been here the longest over over 30 years.
1:27:46
Clearly. He comes up as well, Mr. Curry. Because that word is
1:27:51
out. Like cutting back. I was MTV guy back then. And now it's
1:27:55
like he was that guy was coming to roost. They all said welcome
1:27:59
home. And so we're just chatting was, I don't know how it came
1:28:03
up. But he said, you know, oh, and how it came up? He was he
1:28:08
said something about weed is Jamaica after all.
1:28:11
John C Dvorak: Yeah, weed. And I said, Hey, guys, don't make a
1:28:15
ganja.
1:28:15
Adam Curry: And so I said, yeah, no, I had to quit because I had
1:28:19
to stop putting fire in my mouth for my whole teeth procedure and
1:28:22
all that. And he said, You know, I can't do that since I quit. I
1:28:27
quit 17 years ago. No, it wasn't nearly 13 years ago. So what
1:28:33
happened? He says, Well, it was a Tuesday. And that was my day
1:28:36
off. And I was baked at 830 in the morning. And he goes off
1:28:40
that his child then crawled out of the crib and the door was
1:28:43
open. He was freaking out. And he didn't know he thought his
1:28:46
kid had crawled up out of her crib and out the door. And he
1:28:50
said, Oh God, oh God, if I find her, I'll never smoke weed
1:28:53
again. And of course, she was in the corner of the crib. And he
1:28:55
he just missed her because he was baked. But then he goes on
1:28:59
to say, and we were the original woke parents way before it was
1:29:03
fashionable. This is a Jamaican guy. I said what do you mean? He
1:29:06
said, we go to the we go to the toy store and we say we have a
1:29:09
son and a daughter is a son. You can have anything you want.
1:29:12
Doesn't matter what you want to play with. You can get anything
1:29:15
you want you want and what do you pick up? A gun? Daughter,
1:29:21
same thing, anything you want. You can play with anything. It's
1:29:24
okay. Whatever you want. She picks up a pink unicorn. You
1:29:28
know, it's like now that's just one instance. But there's
1:29:33
something fundamentally wrong with with parents who say when
1:29:37
our children tell us who they are, it is our job as a grown up
1:29:40
to listen and to believe them. That's what it means to be a
1:29:43
good parent. No, just hard. No. I'm concerned by the statements
1:29:49
from elected officials.
1:29:54
John C Dvorak: It's beyond me. Well, I didn't mean the
1:29:58
minority. But the problem is you get People like these elected
1:30:01
officials, yeah, who are promoting it and then you have
1:30:04
the problem in the schools where they're promoting it because the
1:30:07
teachers are such a low quality
1:30:09
Adam Curry: and it's all just a money grab. It's all a as we
1:30:12
know, from our insurance guy, the producer, it's for per child
1:30:16
that goes into the system, whether it's insurance paying
1:30:18
for it, or Oh, yes, it's a cash cows, been million dollars per
1:30:23
child to go through all of this stuff, all of it. And you gotta
1:30:28
wonder, as a part of these telehealth things that cropped
1:30:32
up, excuse me during COVID which some of them are prescribing.
1:30:37
ozempic Now that's why Weight Watchers bought one. Some of
1:30:40
them have the ability to prescribe antidepressants. What
1:30:44
else are they doing? Oh, I don't feel good in my skin. Ah, of
1:30:48
course, it's because you're trans. Let me refer you to
1:30:51
someone. I really concerned that this is happening. It is
1:30:56
happening talk about a genocide. Do you think they think Putin is
1:31:00
bad?
1:31:02
Unknown: Yeah, well
1:31:05
John C Dvorak: is a Democrat genocide.
1:31:07
Adam Curry: Yeah. All right. Let's let's just let's just
1:31:09
lighten the mood for a second. Let's play something completely
1:31:12
different. I gotta
1:31:12
John C Dvorak: lighten the mood. Can I get a couple of lighten
1:31:14
the mood clips?
1:31:14
Adam Curry: What can I start you off?
1:31:17
Unknown: Go and Oklahoma woman is recovering from a wild
1:31:20
encounter with a monkey Police say the animal was being kept as
1:31:23
a pet at a nearby home, but somehow escaped and found its
1:31:26
way to Brittany Parker's porch. She called police but after
1:31:29
losing sight of the monkey, she went outside and that was a
1:31:32
dangerous mistake.
1:31:33
Oh no, it was bouncing from my hand railing on my front porch.
1:31:37
It happened so fast. The monkey had jumped up off the ground
1:31:41
onto my head and ripped out my hair and then ripped my ear like
1:31:46
a piece of paper.
1:31:48
A relative shot the monkey Parker needed nearly 200
1:31:52
stitches and needs surgery on her ear. It happened the same
1:31:55
day in Ohio man nearly lost his arm after being attacked by his
1:31:58
pet zebra.
1:31:59
Adam Curry: Come on. Come on. Come on.
1:32:02
John C Dvorak: How is this light?
1:32:05
Adam Curry: I just love the kicker of a guy whose arm was
1:32:08
ripped up by his pet zebra. What are you doing people?
1:32:14
John C Dvorak: I have clips more like this. Okay. Millennial
1:32:18
advice.
1:32:19
Adam Curry: Millennial advice. Okay, here we go.
1:32:23
Unknown: If you saved $1 a day for a year. Do
1:32:25
you know how much money you'd have roughly $30,000. Right.
1:32:32
If you saved $1 a day for a year, do
1:32:34
you know how much money you'd have roughly $30,000.
1:32:39
Adam Curry: If you save $1 a day for the rest of your life, no
1:32:43
for a year for a year, then you have roughly $30,000 What is
1:32:48
this Etherium? These children talking about? What did you get
1:32:54
that from?
1:32:55
John C Dvorak: I got it from a clip of a bunch of millennial
1:32:58
advice a millennial advice.
1:33:00
Adam Curry: I didn't I don't have any my show notes. I think
1:33:02
in the last in the last show notes. One out of five people
1:33:05
cannot tell time on and that's all people across the board.
1:33:09
We've talked about this before, but I didn't know the stat was
1:33:11
one out of five of all people cannot tell time from an analog
1:33:15
clock I didn't know was one out of five of all people.
1:33:18
John C Dvorak: I didn't know is that high yield? I thought
1:33:20
that's very old millennial
1:33:22
Adam Curry: Are you sure that thing wasn't satire, that
1:33:23
millennial advice thing?
1:33:25
John C Dvorak: Oh, no, it sounds right to me. Okay, here. Here's
1:33:29
a good one. Now this is a very interesting clip. This is this
1:33:32
clip is titled Ben let me fit set it up. idiot trying to
1:33:35
explain privileged, this is a looks like a kind of a Latina.
1:33:41
Asian is something some sort of a mixed race girl going around.
1:33:45
And she's like, very easily upset by things. And she doesn't
1:33:49
like bullshit artists and she's interviewing people. She's like
1:33:54
one of those on the street types. And she's got some guy
1:33:57
who's he asked him to explain privilege. This is some kid,
1:34:01
some just a dork white kid out of high school, probably a
1:34:06
freshman who's been taught, you know, certain ways of acting
1:34:11
because you're supposed to be this way. He's supposed to feel
1:34:13
this way. He's supposed to say these things. And he can't dig
1:34:16
himself out of a hole in this very awkward situation. Here we
1:34:19
go. I grew up as a white
1:34:22
Unknown: man. And you're the exact opposite, you know, and so
1:34:25
it's like, my experiences are gonna be different from yours.
1:34:27
How come? I think? You know, there's a thing of like, white
1:34:31
privilege.
1:34:33
privileges. Do you have that? I don't have.
1:34:35
Oh, see. That's the question. I keep asking myself because like,
1:34:37
in this day and age, like all the laws, I say all the laws.
1:34:41
It's hard to speak on something I'm not fully knowledgeable of
1:34:44
so sorry if I like make mistake and saying this, but it's like,
1:34:47
like
1:34:51
do you think it's a problem in society when white people think
1:34:54
that they have more privileges than brown or black people?
1:34:57
Yeah, and I think that's sort of the agenda that's pushed off
1:34:59
because Personally, it's like, not that I think I'm more
1:35:03
privileged than anyone else because I had to work to get
1:35:05
where I was. And that's like the Why do
1:35:07
you have that mentality immediately where you, you know,
1:35:09
kind of apologize to me like, let's talk about privilege.
1:35:12
Let's talk about, I'm a white man in America. So we could have
1:35:14
grown up differently. Why? Why is that your first initial
1:35:17
reaction to me as a brown woman? Wow,
1:35:20
you give me good See, this is a common kind of conversations
1:35:22
that I love having. And I think it comes from a place of like,
1:35:29
I wouldn't say caution. But like, in this day and age,
1:35:32
people are so quick to judge and react and cancel. And so I guess
1:35:37
it's at that like caution to go into an interview like this. I'm
1:35:40
like, I don't know where we're at. But now I know where we're
1:35:42
at. And I can like,
1:35:44
go for real.
1:35:45
Adam Curry: Whoa, I think I've seen this actually. I think I
1:35:49
think I've seen this clip a while
1:35:50
Unknown: back especially around that. Yeah, yeah, it's
1:35:53
authentic.
1:35:54
Adam Curry: But I have a friend and I won't say on the air who
1:35:56
it is because you know him very well. He worked at our company
1:36:00
for a while. He's having a real hard time in this in this
1:36:04
downturn, certainly in technology. He says, you know,
1:36:08
an X technology, entrepreneur, 53 years old and white and
1:36:11
straight, said I have zero options. I'm getting no work no
1:36:16
one and it's all because of this. He's not being hired. He
1:36:24
can't he can't buy a job. It's distressing.
1:36:29
John C Dvorak: We had a clip above five years ago of a
1:36:32
director, Hollywood guy who says who talked about his agent told
1:36:37
them you can you're not gonna get any work for the next number
1:36:39
of years unless you come out of the closet as gay.
1:36:43
Adam Curry: That's so interesting, because that's
1:36:46
exactly what Tina said. He should just say he's gay. I fake
1:36:49
it till you make it. I'm like, I think he has some scruples.
1:36:55
John C Dvorak: I think it has pride. You can always become a
1:36:58
podcaster
1:36:59
Adam Curry: Oh, no, there it is. That's the end of it. I want to
1:37:03
move to China for a
1:37:04
Unknown: second. CBS News has learned the FBI and Justice
1:37:07
Department are investigating tiktoks parent company for
1:37:10
possibly spying on us citizens, including American journalists
1:37:14
who cover the tech industry that Chinese owned bytedance
1:37:18
reportedly admitted it inappropriately obtained data
1:37:21
from Tik Tok users in the US in December is just the latest
1:37:25
escalation between the social media giant and the White House.
1:37:28
Half of the Biden administration this week threatened to ban
1:37:31
Tiktok nationwide if bytedance doesn't sell the app.
1:37:35
Adam Curry: Now this is a very old story. This spying on
1:37:39
journalists, which of course you know, can be done it is being
1:37:43
done actively by every single app you use, call it spying it
1:37:47
you know, if you use the information to track someone,
1:37:52
whether you you give that to someone to go and spy on them or
1:37:57
not. It's the information it's not like tick tock has been
1:38:00
spying unlike anybody else. So that bringing this out, and this
1:38:04
is CBS, CIA broadcasting systems who are just I mean, this is an
1:38:09
old old story, and now all sudden the FBI is on it. I don't
1:38:12
know if that's true. But we received a very good boots on
1:38:17
the ground email. Did you see this one from the inside info on
1:38:21
tick tock advertising? No, I want to share this because this
1:38:26
is good. Now remember, that the initial my initial thesis and
1:38:31
still is that this is all because tick tock has figured
1:38:36
out has a system that is much better than Facebook, Instagram,
1:38:42
Twitter, Google, they have a way to a part of it. Maybe the
1:38:47
algorithm I don't think that's it's that important if you read
1:38:50
through this, if you hear this, but they're basically taking
1:38:53
away billions of dollars from these established companies. And
1:38:56
there's no letting up now that we know that they have just
1:38:59
announced they're entering the search ad market. So that's
1:39:03
squarely in Google's territory. So time to step it up. Our
1:39:08
producer says I was looking to Thursday show and have some
1:39:11
insights on the tick tock conversation due to geopolitical
1:39:14
issues involved in this and who my employer is. I'm remaining
1:39:16
anonymous. Of course, if you use a Disney show, I manage global
1:39:20
brand ads on social media for a large tech manufacturer that is
1:39:23
very active on tick tock. I'm also responsible for governance
1:39:27
and best practices for all social media as for our company,
1:39:30
across all our lines of business and countries around the world.
1:39:35
This is the kind of boots on the ground we need. And this is
1:39:37
very, very good. We have shifted nearly half of our brand social
1:39:43
ad budget to tick tock over the last year half. And E commerce
1:39:48
and other ads are also shifting a lot of their budget that way
1:39:51
as well. I reached out to our rep from tic toc to get an
1:39:56
official tic toc stance on what's happening. Copying in
1:40:00
pasting verbatim here except for removing couple sentences that
1:40:03
would identify my company or the tic toc employee who sent it.
1:40:07
Ready? Go. So his question is, you know, what's up with that?
1:40:14
And are you going to be kicked off and you know, what is
1:40:18
happening? So the employee writes back first, I recognize
1:40:22
the goal of showing up on Tik Tok and spending your media
1:40:25
budget with our platform is to elevate redacted brand, I do
1:40:29
believe, despite the political. No, it says I do believe despite
1:40:35
does, despite the political climate, we continue to deliver
1:40:38
on this. It's important to separate congressmen sentiment
1:40:41
versus user sentiment towards tick tock, which continues to be
1:40:44
positive and outpaces other platforms. Second, we are highly
1:40:48
confident we will not get banned. Our strategy and this is
1:40:52
in from a tick tock ad sales representative. So this is
1:40:57
they're sending this to other people, I presume. Our strategy
1:41:00
as a company remains the same. Continue to be transparent, have
1:41:04
US based protections for storing user data in the US with Oracle,
1:41:08
which is, which is happened. Funny and build systems with
1:41:13
robust third party monitoring, vetting and verification.
1:41:17
There's a reason why it's tick tock in the US versus Duyen is a
1:41:21
DI N Do you Yein? Do we even know how to pronounce it either.
1:41:26
In China, we must adhere to US law as a US company, as
1:41:29
headlines prove tic tock faces more scrutiny than any other
1:41:33
tech social media platform. With that we are more transparent,
1:41:36
more proactive and more cognizant of the guardrails we
1:41:39
must have in place if we want to operate in the US. Let's believe
1:41:44
that to be true, yes. And I think that they are dumping
1:41:47
their data into Oracle, which Oracle and the CIA should be
1:41:50
very happy about.
1:41:52
John C Dvorak: Yeah, exactly what the Yeah, adis should be
1:41:56
very happy.
1:41:57
Adam Curry: Let's look back at the Trump era colong 130 million
1:42:01
plus us in the US use Tiktok to express themselves. So it's a
1:42:04
platform tied to the First Amendment freedom of speech.
1:42:07
This was at the foundation of why a ban was denied from the
1:42:10
courts during the Trump administration and still holds
1:42:12
true. Who has access to tick tock user data. All US data is
1:42:17
stored automatically in the Oracle Cloud infrastructure in
1:42:21
the US secure environment to protect Americans user data. You
1:42:25
don't hear this from Holly or any of these other jokes. Do you
1:42:29
know data
1:42:31
John C Dvorak: or Rubio and I believe it to be true? Of course
1:42:34
it's true. We we reported Yes. Why isn't the media talking
1:42:38
about this? So just you know Boston away.
1:42:40
Adam Curry: Data Access is managed by a US data security
1:42:43
team who are part of our initiative, Project Project
1:42:46
Texas, responsible for implementing layers of security
1:42:50
and oversight to ensure that Americans can feel very
1:42:53
confident that the data they share with us is safe and
1:42:56
secure. What exactly is project Texas, an initiative in
1:43:00
partnership with Oracle that has cost $1.5 billion and has been
1:43:04
two years in the works preventing inappropriate access
1:43:07
to data including know approval mechanisms by the US new
1:43:11
approval mechanisms by which US data would be shared with the
1:43:14
Chinese government data has never been shared, nor have they
1:43:17
ever asked Tik Tok for us user data. Well, it hasn't been
1:43:21
shared, but I'm sure it's been picked out by the CIA. Oracle
1:43:24
Cloud infrastructure is the same work infrastructure the
1:43:30
intelligence agencies use five pillars of focus independent
1:43:33
governance, data and access control, Software Assurance,
1:43:36
content assurance and third party oversight. Independent US
1:43:40
government approved third parties will be invited to
1:43:42
conduct regular audits of our data system. This is all project
1:43:46
Texas, protected data will not be allowed to transfer anywhere,
1:43:50
anywhere out the US. outside the US. Tiktok source code is
1:43:54
reviewed by Oracle and a third party inspected inspector
1:43:57
enacted since August 2022. first revealed in a letter to a group
1:44:01
of US senators in June 2022. Funny Did you know about that,
1:44:05
John?
1:44:06
John C Dvorak: No, I didn't know that the senators knew all this
1:44:09
Adam Curry: other important information. All Users opt into
1:44:12
the data we collect. We are transparent. We never collect
1:44:15
real time physical locations like Google Maps would put
1:44:18
instead, approximate locations to serve relevant content as any
1:44:22
other relevant app or publisher does. Unlike all this for
1:44:26
advertising purposes. Yes. Unlike other platforms, we also
1:44:29
never sell user data to anyone I don't know does, uh, I don't
1:44:33
know. I'm not sure who sells what. We have significant
1:44:37
safeguards for users 13 to 18 bytedance Our parent company is
1:44:41
incorporated in the Cayman Islands, not China. That's
1:44:46
interest you always hear Chinese company bytedance
1:44:50
John C Dvorak: That's interesting.
1:44:52
Adam Curry: 60% of the company is owned by global investment
1:44:56
firms 20% by our founders and 20% by employees including 1000s
1:45:02
of Americans how about that? So when you hear like we played on
1:45:10
the last show, Marco Rubio asked came out again. Okay, hold on a
1:45:17
second. Rubio it was was it didn't have that ready if it was
1:45:27
the shoot man I don't have that where he said Can China control
1:45:34
the user data? Yeah sure. So this this is the truth I'm going
1:45:41
to I'm just going to take our producers word for it that this
1:45:44
is the truth. So it's going to me it seems very difficult and a
1:45:48
lot of hurdles that
1:45:50
John C Dvorak: it wouldn't be very easy to double check any of
1:45:54
this information it sounds right. And event the fuss is
1:45:58
being made seems like a smoke you know, it's a tempest in a
1:46:02
teapot or a smoke screen or cover up something else going on
1:46:05
or who knows what. And so now, but nobody does any research.
1:46:10
No, no. Hey, the Dutch
1:46:11
Adam Curry: farmer party
1:46:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the Dutch farmer partner party bag better.
1:46:22
Adam Curry: Tokyo Matt, who told us about computer vision
1:46:25
followed up, which is the the ability of which you are
1:46:30
absolutely correct. The ability to, to use computer vision to
1:46:36
look at books on the shelf, whatever people are video of
1:46:40
themselves. He had an interesting follow up tic TOCs
1:46:43
computer vision via the HD smartphone camera automatically
1:46:47
reads catalogs and collates the stuff in people's rooms and
1:46:51
streams it to a database without the need for humans to organize
1:46:54
it. The consumer profiling of young millennials and Zoomers is
1:46:58
done in real time, with less worry of human error slash
1:47:01
laziness slash poor training, slash people quitting etc. When
1:47:05
the data is annotated as text, it becomes metadata which can
1:47:09
easily be packaged and sold to advertisers. Millions of teen
1:47:12
girls dancing in the rooms means millions of advertiser friendly
1:47:16
consumer profiles being created in real time without the time
1:47:20
sucking need of humans. Thanks to computer vision automation,
1:47:24
humans take too long to do this type of work and get lost in the
1:47:27
amount of data streaming at them. The AI can suck it up,
1:47:30
annotate, collate, turn it into consumer metadata suited to a
1:47:34
array of psycho graphical market segments and then tick tock can
1:47:38
decide what to do with it. Now. As you pointed out, it's been
1:47:41
just technology has been around for a long time. But look at the
1:47:45
difference. YouTube has shows yeah, great shows people with
1:47:50
microphones with headphones on. That's not a great place to get
1:47:54
meta data. Tick tock in your car in your in your room in your
1:47:59
bedroom and you living in
1:48:00
John C Dvorak: the rooms definitely the way to go. So no
1:48:02
guys, who are the guys with the microphones, headphones or even
1:48:05
people on Zoom calls with fake backgrounds. There's always some
1:48:08
how many people have a grand piano in their house? What is
1:48:13
the grand piano room? I mean, come on.
1:48:16
Adam Curry: So that's the problem. It's not a
1:48:18
technological issue. It's a cultural issue of the platform.
1:48:23
That's what's going on here. And that's why they need them out.
1:48:26
They need him to stop because they are sucking up
1:48:30
John C Dvorak: all the money and sucking up the money that sucked
1:48:33
but they're sucking up the money. They're sucking up the
1:48:36
money that these guys in Silicon Valley ever since the whole
1:48:41
thing went kind of software from hardware. They feel they feel
1:48:48
like they're they have like a privilege they their obligation
1:48:52
is to them they have a what is it call when you have a right to
1:48:57
your money or you feel that you that it has to go to you there's
1:49:01
a specific word I'm looking for. You we have a girl you have
1:49:07
Adam Curry: agreed to what greed was not greed besides greed.
1:49:11
John C Dvorak: You mean? They just have this this attitude
1:49:16
that this should be their money. And tick tock is an interloper.
1:49:21
Edelman entitlement entitlement. I'm sorry, I didn't I was.
1:49:25
Adam Curry: Thank you, trolls.
1:49:27
John C Dvorak: Thank you trolls. Will you stay? There's an
1:49:28
entitlement at Google. Because Oh, look, all the work we did to
1:49:33
get this to work in the first place we're entitled to we're
1:49:37
entitled This is like the you see this in sports where the guy
1:49:41
is no good anymore. He's been playing the game too long. But
1:49:44
he feels he should get more money now because he's, he's put
1:49:48
so much effort into it in the past. Right. He's now entitled,
1:49:52
he's entitled to the to some some recompense. And so there's
1:49:57
entitlement at Google. There's entitlement at Michael or soft?
1:50:00
There's entitlement ad at Twitter for sure. It's not a
1:50:05
control this entitlement. And then of course, nothing was a
1:50:07
bitch about entitlements because oh my god, people put money in
1:50:10
Social Security expect her money out of Social Security what kind
1:50:13
of thing is that? And but these guys yeah entitled
1:50:17
Adam Curry: so because they're losing, they've all unmasked
1:50:21
decided and you'll notice that tick tock is one of the few that
1:50:24
has said just just not interested not impressed.
1:50:28
They've all decided chat GPT GPG for that's how we're gonna do
1:50:33
it, that's gonna win. That's the way to do it. This is great. And
1:50:40
John C Dvorak: this brings us to our discussion of Yes, hi.
1:50:43
Adam Curry: That's right. So I want to so good old sir Jean,
1:50:46
Duke of Texas. He He texted me last week, he says he sends me a
1:50:53
screenshot of a chat GPT for you know, this is the new the new
1:50:58
version, the new large language set. That is it large language
1:51:02
set, I think large learning set, whatever it is. And he sends me
1:51:06
this picture screenshot and says, chat GPT no stuff. And
1:51:11
Gene, by the way, is a very, very intelligent man. He's very
1:51:15
smart, but I think he got a little wrapped up in this. You
1:51:19
know, Star Trek computer, tell me what to do. Computer? No,
1:51:24
like, this is great. And so he's he sends me this and I'm not
1:51:28
picking on Jean. I love Jean. He's my friend. But I got I
1:51:32
mean, I even said to him, I said, Man, please, let's just go
1:51:34
through this for a second. The question to judge GPT for was
1:51:38
tell me more about Adam curry. Let's see if you can catch the
1:51:42
mistakes. John. Adam curry is immediate personality and I'll
1:51:45
ring the bell. Bell. Adam curry is a media personality and
1:51:49
entrepreneur who was one? Well, okay, John C. Dvorak. Berkeley.
1:51:54
Yes. What did you catch?
1:51:57
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't know that you know, he's a
1:51:59
podcast. Thank
1:52:00
Adam Curry: you, Adam. Adam curry is a media personality and
1:52:04
entrepreneur who was one of the earliest pioneers of podcasting.
1:52:08
Hello, hello, ring.
1:52:10
John C Dvorak: When did you invented it? Thank
1:52:12
Adam Curry: you. He's best known for CO creating the popular
1:52:15
podcast no agenda with his longtime friend. When a friend
1:52:21
and collaborator collaborator John C. Dvorak Curry was born on
1:52:26
September 3 1964, Washington DC and grew up in in various parts
1:52:30
of the United States and Europe. No, I lived in Kensington,
1:52:35
Maryland. And I lived in Uganda, whereas that, in the 1980s, he
1:52:42
became a popular MTV VJ, posting shows like headbangers ball, and
1:52:47
120 minutes, and never hosted 120 minutes. That was Dave
1:52:51
Kendall with a wig on his head wrong. After leaving MTV, he
1:52:57
became interested in new media technologies and started
1:53:00
experimenting with podcasting, a term he helped popularize. I
1:53:06
didn't even know where to begin with that sentence. That's in
1:53:11
2004, curry began hosting his own podcast. Oh, because it was
1:53:15
already invented. And I think I'll do a podcast, the daily
1:53:19
source code, which became one of the most popular podcasts of its
1:53:23
time. It was the only podcast of its time. He later teamed up
1:53:30
with Dvorak to create no agenda, a podcast that combines News
1:53:34
Analysis, commentary and humor. How they got one right, I'll
1:53:39
give him that good. Yeah, the show has developed a large and
1:53:42
dedicated following, and has been credited with helping to
1:53:45
shape the alternative media landscape.
1:53:49
John C Dvorak: I don't know about that. Not only either.
1:53:52
Adam Curry: Curry is also an entrepreneur. Having founded
1:53:56
several successful tech companies over the years, I
1:53:59
would say the last one was not so successful. He was an early
1:54:03
investor in an evangelist for Bitcoin and other
1:54:07
cryptocurrencies and has been involved in various blockchain
1:54:11
and cryptocurrency projects.
1:54:14
Unknown: Well, no.
1:54:17
Adam Curry: I'm an investor in Bitcoin everybody. Overall, Adam
1:54:20
curry is a well known figure in the podcasting and alternative
1:54:23
media communities known for his innovative spirit to spirit and
1:54:32
his ability to stay ahead of the curve when it comes to new media
1:54:35
technologies. Okay. I give this entire sentence complete
1:54:41
bullshit. This is bull crap.
1:54:45
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it seems it's just this fluff pieces
1:54:48
fluff and that yes, that's what I say inaccurate fluff flowery
1:54:51
Adam Curry: words. It's word salad and I said the gene.
1:54:54
pushback. He said, I don't think you're just not seeing it yet.
1:54:57
Yeah, unfortunately, I'm seeing it very clearly. This is worse
1:55:01
than Posterous This is disaster as you look me up. Oh my
1:55:05
goodness. You really want this? Okay, I did not. But I shall now
1:55:11
have you. You have not registered for chat GPT JLT
1:55:14
Forum. I'm still
1:55:15
John C Dvorak: I'm still I'm still waiting in the wings there
1:55:18
to take this on. And okay,
1:55:20
Adam Curry: so I shall now I've signed up through Google. All
1:55:24
junk I do goes to my Google address because I do our man. I
1:55:29
do not care. And oh, since I'm logging in for the first time on
1:55:33
this computer, this is a free research preview. Keyword being
1:55:40
free and preview. And we'll get to that in a moment. Okay, here
1:55:46
we go. And it was a lot of a lot of a lot of disclaimers. Okay,
1:55:53
I'll ask the same question. Tell me about John C. Dvorak. Oops.
1:56:03
To vorak Okay. And away we go. Okay, I will read as it types is
1:56:11
blinking computer tell me about John C. Dvorak. Blinking,
1:56:15
blinking, blinking, blinking, it's still blinking.
1:56:19
John C Dvorak: It's still blinking. Can't find me.
1:56:22
Unknown: John C. Dvorak is a well known American technology
1:56:25
communist columnist, author, and broadcaster. He was born on
1:56:29
April 5 1952. In Los Angeles, California. DeVore. AK is best
1:56:35
known for his work as columnist for PC Magazine, where he wrote
1:56:39
the quote inside track column for many years. Devorah has been
1:56:44
involved in the technology industry since the late 1970s.
1:56:49
He started his career as a freelance writer and worked for
1:56:53
various technology publications, including InfoWorld PC World and
1:56:57
Mark Hughes up in 1986. He started writing for PC Magazine,
1:57:03
and became one of its most popular and influential
1:57:06
columnist to vorak. So far, so good.
1:57:10
John C Dvorak: Well, they got my birthdate, right. And the year,
1:57:14
the month I started at PC Magazine, and it's just now just
1:57:18
kind of fluff. It's like, you know, it's, it's, it's not bad.
1:57:23
It's not wrong. Where's my podcasting stuff? Gaborik
1:57:27
Unknown: is known for his outspoken and controversial
1:57:29
views on technology in the technology industry. He has been
1:57:32
critical of companies like Microsoft and Apple, and has
1:57:35
been known to take a contrarian view on many technology related
1:57:38
issues. He is also known for his skepticism of new technologies,
1:57:41
and it's often been proven right in his
1:57:48
John C Dvorak: left in your reading laughter.
1:57:51
Adam Curry: Going crazy, who's going nuts on me?
1:57:54
John C Dvorak: Pretty good going on here. He is also known
1:57:57
Unknown: for his skepticism of new technologies and has often
1:57:59
been proven right in his predictions about which
1:58:01
technologies will succeed and which will fail.
1:58:04
Adam Curry: Wow, are you programming this thing?
1:58:12
Oh, my goodness. Let's see. I'm just gonna read it myself. I'm
1:58:15
tired of the voice. Hey, in addition to his work as a
1:58:19
columnist of work has also prolific author and has written
1:58:22
several books on technology, including the vortex guide to PC
1:58:25
telecommunications and online the book. I've never read online
1:58:29
the book, it was good. He has also been a regular guest on
1:58:33
radio and television programs, including the TV show Tech TV
1:58:36
and the radio show no agenda. Oh, yeah. Radio, baby. Oh, by
1:58:40
the way, your show no agenda. It's the radio show no agenda.
1:58:43
Overall. Jhansi.
1:58:45
Unknown: We go back to zippy, overall, Jhansi. Dvorak is a
1:58:48
highly respected and influential figure in the technology
1:58:51
industry. And his views and opinions are widely respected by
1:58:54
both industry insiders and consumers alike.
1:58:58
Adam Curry: And that's it. That's all we know about you for
1:58:59
now.
1:59:00
John C Dvorak: It stops right there.
1:59:01
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's the end.
1:59:06
John C Dvorak: All right, I guess your podcasts for 15
1:59:08
years, it hasn't caught up to chat GPT or whatever it is.
1:59:11
Interesting.
1:59:12
Adam Curry: I hope you don't mind. Just to set to do this is
1:59:17
important. Whatever this Chad GPT has in his memory is going
1:59:21
to be truth for the rest of our lives.
1:59:24
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, I liked the accolades, so I'm not
1:59:27
gonna argue about that.
1:59:28
Adam Curry: But I did just ask what did he say about the mouse
1:59:31
just to just to see what stuck if you don't mind, if you don't
1:59:34
mind?
1:59:35
Unknown: John C. Dvorak has expressed a range of opinions
1:59:38
about the mouse the popular input device use with personal
1:59:41
computers. In the past, Dvorak has been critical of the mouse,
1:59:45
arguing that it was an unnecessary and inefficient way
1:59:47
to interact with the computer. He believed that the mouse was a
1:59:50
fad that would eventually be replaced by more efficient input
1:59:53
devices. However, in recent years, the vortex views on the
1:59:57
mouse have softened somewhat, while he still believes that the
2:00:00
mouse has some drawbacks. He acknowledges that it is useful
2:00:03
tool for certain tasks such as graphic design and video
2:00:06
editing. He also recognized that many people have become
2:00:08
accustomed to using the mouse and find it to be an intuitive
2:00:10
way to interact with their computers. Overall, the borax
2:00:13
view on the mouse has evolved over time. And he continues to
2:00:16
be a vocal and opinionated commentator on all things
2:00:19
related to technology.
2:00:22
John C Dvorak: I would say that's not inaccurate.
2:00:25
Adam Curry: Well, the inaccuracies that you said
2:00:27
there's no evidence.
2:00:29
John C Dvorak: You're that's true. They left out the key
2:00:31
element A, which is the no evidence comment. Yeah. And the
2:00:35
other thing is that I've never really made any assertions in my
2:00:40
life that I know of. Equating the mouse with efficiency and
2:00:45
video editing. No, no. And there's no reason for me to do
2:00:52
that. No, I
2:00:53
Adam Curry: don't recall that either. I don't, why would I
2:00:55
know no.
2:00:56
John C Dvorak: Out of the blue. I don't talk about the mouse. I
2:00:58
usually just defend myself over the no evidence.
2:01:01
Adam Curry: I defend you. I defend you over the no evidence
2:01:04
comment.
2:01:04
John C Dvorak: Well, you're a good man.
2:01:05
Adam Curry: Well, I love you. I mean, we're not friends. We're
2:01:08
not friends or anything on like, chat. GPT friends. We're not
2:01:13
friends. Wow.
2:01:16
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no. Did that. What you said earlier, I
2:01:19
think is the correct assertion, which is this is going to be
2:01:22
truth. Yeah, whether it is or not. Yeah. And that's the
2:01:26
problem with these things.
2:01:27
Adam Curry: Yeah. Because, you know, smart people, people I
2:01:29
know. And, and there's just one other thing, since we're on the
2:01:32
tech talk here for a second. I'm learning now that all phones
2:01:37
with cameras, phones with cameras, but there's been some
2:01:41
specific research done on Samsung, without your knowledge,
2:01:45
or I presume Without You by you opting into it, who knows what
2:01:49
the small print is, they are not giving a true representation of
2:01:53
the picture. They are filling in stuff. They're smoothing out
2:01:57
stuff without a filter. They're they're doing this by themselves
2:02:01
so that people say wow, this is the best camera I've ever had.
2:02:04
And there was a test that was done on with Samsung with photos
2:02:08
of the Moon using the super telephoto lens, and then they
2:02:13
start to do some deep research. And these cameras are these
2:02:17
phones really are the cameras in the phones the processing is is
2:02:21
just making it look prettier and filling in bits that aren't
2:02:24
there. So not only will the truth be fake, but everyone's
2:02:30
gonna think they look great and they're gonna be dogs. Be dogs I
2:02:35
tell you this, I think this is a these are very, very, very bad
2:02:39
developments. You as a as a technology commentator, I'd just
2:02:44
love to have your final word on this sucks. No. All right. And
2:02:48
with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. So in the
2:02:50
morning to you the man who put the C in Cardi B ladies and
2:02:52
gentlemen, please say hello to my friend on the other end
2:02:54
friend, John
2:03:03
John C Dvorak: you see boots on the ground feed near subs in the
2:03:05
water. And all the Dames and nights out there. And in
2:03:09
Adam Curry: the mornings with the trolls and the troll room
2:03:11
who have been quite helpful this morning actually got a couple of
2:03:13
one liners helped us out with some terms we were stuck on. It
2:03:16
does happen. We appreciate it. Let's see how many
2:03:24
2282 2282 Seems pretty good, or is that typical for a Sunday?
2:03:32
John C Dvorak: Well, you know, that's typical for Sunday and
2:03:34
it's going to drop to 19 Five within the next five years
2:03:38
already
2:03:38
Adam Curry: 20 to 51 and we're dropping 20 to 19 because people
2:03:43
just leave like oh, I don't donate so why would I listen to
2:03:47
anyone else donate even though it's great content? No. Let's
2:03:50
just go
2:03:51
John C Dvorak: 20 what somebody said in the in the no agenda
2:03:54
social know what they they asked the question. They're leaving.
2:03:58
Where are they going?
2:04:02
Adam Curry: Now that's a good question. Where are they? What
2:04:05
are they doing? Oh, time to do something more important. 2207
2:04:09
We're going down
2:04:09
John C Dvorak: and either you went to the kitchen to get a
2:04:11
beer or something you Why would
2:04:13
Adam Curry: you leave? We don't have to stop listening. Yeah,
2:04:16
you can
2:04:16
John C Dvorak: leave it on you could literally literally
2:04:20
quitting
2:04:20
Adam Curry: Yeah, like oh no, they're gonna talk about
2:04:23
donations cold. Let's stop listen, I can't hear it's going
2:04:26
to hurt my ears. 2196 What did you call it as going down to
2:04:30
John C Dvorak: I said 1990 and 500k We'll keep our eye on it.
2:04:35
Adam Curry: As you just mentioned no agenda social.com
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Another free value for value service. Even though everyone
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believes Erina should be taking some value for value for running
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it from his house and maintaining it for foreigners
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John C Dvorak: that kind of guy. He's a good guy. Yes.
2:04:48
Adam Curry: He doesn't quit. Now imagine imagine Aaron donation
2:04:53
segment Yeah, imagine Aaron said hey, I just quit and with the
2:04:55
thing. I'm done you know go pound sand get get a get an
2:04:59
account somewhere else. No, no, no, no, no people would lose
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their crap. No, but that's not what happens. Because Aaron was
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a good guy. You can follow Adam and Og on the social.com
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2:05:45
investor in technology, and whatever that was. And of
2:05:49
course, we have artists who we adore, the artists always make
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Dred Scott does all that for this show, and for many others,
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and we appreciate that. And we thank our artists who we picked
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for the last episode capitalist agenda, no stranger, no stranger
2:06:13
to the no agenda arts podium. And I think there was I hate to
2:06:19
say this, but there was kind of a lack in general of art. And
2:06:22
his just stood out this was the TV with the all seeing eye with
2:06:26
the with the second world kind of legs. Would you call those
2:06:31
you call those cheesecake legs? I guess? That is fair. Would
2:06:35
that be fair?
2:06:37
John C Dvorak: No. It was just a good leggy, leggy dancing box.
2:06:41
Yes.
2:06:41
Adam Curry: Because the stuff we had was a blow up doll with a
2:06:45
blow up jet. We had in the same goat. We had.
2:06:51
John C Dvorak: It was the Godfather logo as the Biden
2:06:54
family.
2:06:55
Adam Curry: Yes, exactly. The Biden's, which has kind of been
2:06:59
done. And then there was a really, I mean, we're not going
2:07:02
to we rarely use pictures. Certainly Joe Biden as the crime
2:07:07
boss, which I didn't quite I mean, it was a comic strip
2:07:11
blogger.
2:07:13
John C Dvorak: Ai July again, it violated the rule of unpleasant,
2:07:17
Adam Curry: unpleasant chest. Comic blogger also had someone
2:07:21
peeing on a Russian jet.
2:07:24
John C Dvorak: That's the classic little boy ping that you
2:07:26
see in the back. Yeah, yeah, Dan's
2:07:29
Adam Curry: a couple of build back better.
2:07:33
John C Dvorak: No, there was nothing.
2:07:34
Adam Curry: Not much honestly. Not much, which is higher a
2:07:38
chang now Thompson Neil. Company. No one knows who Connie
2:07:43
Chung is anymore. Although they are long gone. Lots of people
2:07:46
know Hogan's Heroes
2:07:48
John C Dvorak: yes they do.
2:07:49
Adam Curry: That has not stopped I'm so I'm so embarrassed about
2:07:52
that call. And that was that was I think that's what we got right
2:07:58
there was was there anything else we missed down below? Man?
2:08:00
It's raining like crazy here. Figures I go to Jamaica. Whoo.
2:08:05
rain.
2:08:08
John C Dvorak: It's raining. Just pouring.
2:08:09
Adam Curry: It's it stopped a little bit. I mean, it's, it's
2:08:13
local, and it moves around is a tropical island would expect it
2:08:17
to happen. So yes, tropical rain. Now it is. Yeah, but it's
2:08:20
still wet. Like any other rain. So thank you very much. Remember
2:08:24
the capitalist agenda. 2101 the shaming is working. John,
2:08:28
they're hanging out that we haven't even cracked 2000 yet.
2:08:31
That's very impressive.
2:08:33
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna be wrong.
2:08:34
Adam Curry: Thank you to all of the artists who submit and are
2:08:36
submitting right now as again, you're going to submit, submit,
2:08:40
submit, submit to us. And submit to our Oh, the keeper says it's
2:08:47
been raining for two hours. Now she's listening live. Of course,
2:08:49
she's sheltering in place, no doubt. Thank you. Again, we of
2:08:54
course, we appreciate it. And we do provide this feedback because
2:08:57
we want you to be better artists, not just for us. But
2:09:00
for those who are professionals and never get any kind of this
2:09:03
feedback. We give it to you. We give it to you, honestly, and we
2:09:05
love you for that. So we're not being douchebags this is this is
2:09:09
an actual service, it's value for value. Even if you don't get
2:09:13
chosen, we'll be happy to critique you, or criticize as
2:09:16
you prefer. Value for value you've talked about a couple
2:09:21
times, that means we appreciate your time, talent and treasure
2:09:24
in any manner that you support us. And of course, we do need
2:09:28
treasure you you notice we have one break today, which means the
2:09:31
actual physical number of donations are right back down to
2:09:35
where they were in February. So we'll start with our executive
2:09:39
and Associate Executive producers. John, you have
2:09:42
handled this first one throughout the past few days. So
2:09:44
maybe you can give us this instant donation, I believe tell
2:09:48
us what's going on.
2:09:49
John C Dvorak: Well, we have a issue with this particular donor
2:09:53
who will be knighted octothorpe and that's what we will call him
2:09:57
sure octothorpe And what he did was, uh, you should be able to
2:10:02
look at his note because I think it's scanned. There what he did
2:10:06
is he came in you should look at it. He came in with $1,000, no
2:10:11
jingles, no karma, but when it has to do
2:10:16
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, no, this is not okay.
2:10:18
John C Dvorak: No five donations over the next five weeks, which
2:10:22
we're all promoting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior with a,
2:10:28
which is fine, I don't mind. But it was the idea of adding.
2:10:34
Adam Curry: Let me let me just read what he says specifically,
2:10:36
each number is a note for a different show $200 per show for
2:10:41
each note 1000 for five notes, this explain. I just want to set
2:10:47
this straight. We provide a value, which we think is
2:10:51
valuable, you receive that you determine if it's valuable for
2:10:55
you. So we've already given you value. This and we were happy to
2:10:59
read a note and a thank you. But we don't necessarily have to be,
2:11:04
you know, jumping around and doing stuff for you.
2:11:07
John C Dvorak: We don't have a traffic department for starters,
2:11:11
which takes ads and places them here and there. This is a bunch
2:11:14
of advertisements. And I said no, no. Becca said no, this is a
2:11:18
bunch of ads that you're doing. And the worst part is you have a
2:11:21
text to phone number requests. And each one of these ads so
2:11:26
you're supposed to text to a phone number. We just got one of
2:11:29
them. Jesus to a phone number. Yeah, by the way. And number
2:11:34
three, you've got the wrong number, just for your own
2:11:37
information. And so I said no, you can't We can't do this. This
2:11:41
is just a bunch of ads that you're doing. And by the way, I
2:11:44
were talking about this over dinner and and Brennan jaisa. My
2:11:50
wife Ramapo, I'm sorry, immediately doesn't take
2:11:54
healings right away immediately. And Jay says no, no, no. I don't
2:11:59
know why she said that. I said no. Yes, yes, yes. And then so
2:12:02
he reported that it sends to it some church in the Midwest, it
2:12:06
seems. And when you text you get a book, they're gonna send you a
2:12:09
book and you're on a mailing list. I mean, there's a mailing
2:12:11
list deal, and which I'm very, always skeptical when I see him
2:12:16
buy. So I sent him a notice as well. And he got, you know, so
2:12:19
when I arrived, he says, you know, if you don't want to, if
2:12:22
you don't like Jesus kind of told me, and then you said it'd
2:12:26
be actually more appropriate? No, I
2:12:27
Adam Curry: said, I said, bro, Jesus does not need any
2:12:32
marketing. I think he's just fine by himself.
2:12:37
John C Dvorak: Which I thought was good. And so so I don't know
2:12:39
what he's gonna tell us to shove it or I don't know what but we
2:12:42
got to I decided, well, let's just, we'll do a night em and
2:12:46
then see what if he has a note he wants to send us we'll send
2:12:49
it but please don't do stuff like this
2:12:51
Adam Curry: when and we really do appreciate the support, which
2:12:56
is returning value for what we already gave to you. And you
2:13:01
determine that to be this. So he's on the podium. Yeah. Oh,
2:13:05
yeah. And it's like one of the few I think today on the podium.
2:13:09
I think let me see. We have no we have we have two more. Okay,
2:13:13
good.
2:13:14
John C Dvorak: Well, Elliot Johnson is next on the list from
2:13:16
Morristown, Arizona. He came up with the normal as normal ish,
2:13:20
three, three 3.33. And he says hello crackpot. And buzzkill
2:13:24
this donation brings me tonight His so he's a night too. I like
2:13:29
to be known as Sir smelly that sweaty night of the Sonoran
2:13:33
Desert. Please wish my mom Susan a happy birthday and a 22nd.
2:13:40
Assuming that she's on the list, I'll check I'll check. No, thank
2:13:44
you for your courage. No jingles but yet, karma?
2:13:48
Adam Curry: Well, okay, you got that. You've got Ah, yes, she
2:13:56
is. She is on the birthday list. No worries there. Susan Johnson
2:14:01
in McKinney, Texas. 333 dot 33. Love the show. Appreciate your
2:14:05
epic insights. Glad to support as it is the pot at as it glad
2:14:11
to support as it Oh, as it is. I think she put a word in there.
2:14:17
Glad to support it as the podcast is of great value. May I
2:14:20
please have a double dose of goat karma?
2:14:22
John C Dvorak: Well, I use your one word from is to it. And it
2:14:26
just you can't read it. It's Unbeliev especially during cold
2:14:29
reads.
2:14:29
Adam Curry: Yeah, that is true. Yes. I'm not a big fan of doing
2:14:33
double karmas because before you know what people have triple
2:14:35
karma isn't quadruple karma. But we'll do it for you. Of course
2:14:38
we'll do that Susan. You've got karma. And we'll just call the
2:14:44
second goat karma, which is your second request. Request that to
2:14:48
be a health karma. So here you go.
2:14:50
Unknown: You've got
2:14:52
Adam Curry: karma for her and her entire family. Thank you
2:14:55
very much.
2:14:56
John C Dvorak: So Priscilla O'Leary comes in with the $333
2:14:59
from Ramona, Calif I have no note from her and I can't find a
2:15:02
note from her.
2:15:03
Adam Curry: Yeah, we do have the special double up karma for that
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which will give her he's got karma which is special special
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for people with no no special. It's special. Even sprag Sprog
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Sprog Kennewick Washington 333. Birthday switcheroo does that
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mean you switch birthdays with someone? Please credit this
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executive thought and here we go please credit this executive
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producer ship to my best pal Kyle. He Boschi on his 50th trip
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around the sun we need a douche bag call out for J man and not
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Mike hunt. No jingles health karma for Laura and Maddy. Thank
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you very much. We got that for you, man. You've got karma
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John C Dvorak: Well, the douche bag is from Matt not Mike hunt
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Adam Curry: here but I think that's was it one name or two
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names.
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John C Dvorak: But Jay man and Matt. Well, whenever has done
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has put the mic punt in there as a gag Yeah. But whatever. Okay,
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it that was botched. He has to donate again. Yeah, if you're
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flying not in Meredith New Hampshire. I'm taking flying
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that Jr. on college tours and we're getting creative with our
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pronouns. Can we get a bust him in the mouth and a goat karma?
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Please call out. Bruce at Bruce. Bruce as a douchebag. And he
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better be at that OKC meet up love is lit. Okay. We'll
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Adam Curry: give you this one by request.
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Unknown: Our formula is this. We go out. We get people in the
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mouth.
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You've got
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Adam Curry: we've got anonymous I'm sorry. Yes. Anonymous from
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Columbus. What? Yeah, anonymous from Columbus, Ohio. 314. Dot 16
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says anonymous pi donation. I'm sorry, isn't it 314 17 Three or
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John C Dvorak: 401? Firewall three or four wins? I think is
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true. Going forward. Five wins is I don't know.
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Adam Curry: I thought I'm pretty sure pious three. One 4.17
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blahdy, blahdy, blahdy, blah,
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John C Dvorak: whatever it was, it was Oh
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Adam Curry: no. 31431 3.14159 would be
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John C Dvorak: 159116 will be rounded up.
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Adam Curry: Okay. We'll let you slide. Got it. Let me slide. Let
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me slide for being Ryan
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