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April 20th, 2023 • 3h 17m

1548: Dangle Op

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John C Dvorak: Stand Alone monster. Adam curry, John C.
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Dvorak.
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Adam Curry: April 20 2023 award winning keep my nation media
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assassination episode 1548 This is no agenda with no more hope
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for Mars. broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas your
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country here in SEMA reason number six in the morning
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everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where everybody's
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going to Golden Gate Park at 420 to have a community Toke. I'm
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Jhansi Dvorak
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Unknown: buzzkill
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Adam Curry: they still do that in San Francisco they still do
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the community Toke?
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, How corny can you be
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Adam Curry: it was kind of you know, it was kind of a thing
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when it was 20 years ago. Yeah. even longer than that when it
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was illegal. Now that then I was like, oh, yeah, look at us, man.
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We're bold. We're out here. Now I read today Americans spend
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more on legal weed then what? Product? Vodka
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Unknown: no
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John C Dvorak: more on legal weed than guns. Oh, you
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Adam Curry: know what I would have helped if this stream was
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back on I guess the stream
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John C Dvorak: was on I guess not. So that he was here my
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funny bit No, I
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Adam Curry: don't think anyone hurts. You're funny. You're
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funny. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. There we go. We're back. The
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question again now Jhansi Dvorak, should you still want to
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participate in our quiz Americans now spend more on
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which product then this then we'd
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John C Dvorak: know more on this product that you mean more on?
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Adam Curry: Yes, thank you. So I almost want to do the show over
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but no, it's okay more on legal weed then this product
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John C Dvorak: okay, we already went past Vika and Okay. Oil
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changes
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Adam Curry: chocolate which I find hard to believe but I find
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John C Dvorak: that hard to believe apparently. Why a lot of
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it I think has to do with the prices illegal weeds expensive.
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh yeah. Okay, good point.
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John C Dvorak: It is a you can buy a lot of chocolate bars for
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150 bucks.
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Adam Curry: Apparently the difference is 30 billion versus
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18 billion
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John C Dvorak: ha yeah 30 billion cheese right just that
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money maker going on?
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Adam Curry: Yeah, although taxes now are screw and all the guys
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who thought they were making all the dough. Anyway, we got it
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John C Dvorak: that way illegal weed in California is still
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bigger probably. Money wise than the legal
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Adam Curry: stuff. Oh, of course. Of course. I think
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everywhere not just California everywhere.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, they're over taxing. Yes. I will
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let these guys get bank accounts. I mean, the whole
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thing is like a joke.
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Adam Curry: So we went to Nashville.
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John C Dvorak: My heard that for the meetup. That was it. I mean,
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people
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Adam Curry: I'd say there were close to 100. And this was at
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the at the same roller rink. Where we're supposed to have a
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last year. You go roller skating. Are you crazy? No, of
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course. No, absolutely. I don't go skiing anymore. I don't do
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snow. I'm 58 this is exactly what I don't know.
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John C Dvorak: Geez. Well, 58 So new 38 Okay, at least I get out
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of the house. We get out of the house. I went out of the house.
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Well, we're really to the backyard shoo away some dogs in
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the yard. There are so
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Adam Curry: many people who really really want to see you.
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Yeah, I mean, like Dane
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John C Dvorak: Do you pack them in? You pack them in literally,
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Adam Curry: patch Sir Patrick Scoble is now coordinate who of
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course, organized a fantastic event. Dame Jennifer was there
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really making everything so smooth? For the whole production
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was great. Damien Edison, Dame Christina pearl or husband came
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a lot of people came down from Indiana, to Nashville.
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John C Dvorak: Because Indiana people are really some
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Adam Curry: incredible but there's you got fans, man, they
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really want to put together the train meet up at the train
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museum meet up or something. There's
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John C Dvorak: a big museum in the Midwest someplace. I'd go to
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that.
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Adam Curry: Okay, well, which one is that?
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John C Dvorak: I mean, if I'd had to look it up, uh, yeah.
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They keep talking about some monster big museum. It's got
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some some gear that nobody else has. And it's supposed to be
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pretty interesting.
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Adam Curry: Okay, well, maybe Yes, sir. Patrick cool. Making
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that make it happen. Yeah, you can count on me. You know who
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else was there? The Canadian refugees and their bus. Do you
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remember the Canadian Refugees. Yeah, the family. I mean, they
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got five kids in that bus. And kids? Well, yeah, I mean, you
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recall that they bet practically running from the law. You know,
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one of them, you know, they're one of the new kids. I think a
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lot of them are adopted if most, if not all, I'm not sure
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John C Dvorak: that at least they're well fed.
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Adam Curry: Well, you are really, really, I mean, you have
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such such heart for the for everyone this morning, don't
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you? Yeah. Can I tell you a funny travel story?
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John C Dvorak: Yes, that's what we're here for. So,
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Adam Curry: because there is no direct flight from either Austin
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or San Antonio to Nashville, which would mean Southwest
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Airlines to well pick pick your pick your poison, with a
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possible layover, which as I don't know if you heard the news
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yesterday. You probably didn't know. So we went out on Monday.
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And we of course, we would want to come back. Preferably Tuesday
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and not necessarily a Wednesday. Well, here's what happened on
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Tuesday,
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Unknown: a computer glitch at Southwest Airlines cause more
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than 2200 flights to be delayed today. Southwest was forced to
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ground its entire fleet this morning, frustrating fliers, the
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software malfunction lasted less than an hour. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: less than an hour, but you know exactly how that
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goes. So that would have screwed everything up. Who knows if I
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would have even been back on time. And to circumvent that
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exact problem. I saved up months worth of my instrument flying
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lessons. So we could fly there. I could fly us with the
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instructor. And this
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John C Dvorak: Oh, that's a good idea. taken his structured
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lesson and mostly Yes, yes, there. Yes.
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Adam Curry: But check it out. So Tina has never flown with me.
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She I don't think she's ever been in a four passenger
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aircraft. Now, these are modern aircraft. But it's small. It's
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like a car that flies. So we, in the morning, we drive to
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Gillespie airport, which is seven minutes away. And we get
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all set to go and we were in the end. You know, there's there's a
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run was one runway at this airport. And you can land either
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way depending on the wind. And it's it's uncontrolled airport.
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So you kind of decide what you want to do. And the pilots talk
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to each other. So we are waiting by the runway, where we would be
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next to enter the runway in the O seven direction. But we're
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waiting for a small assessment to land who decided one four was
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the direction that this person was going to take. So it's
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landing towards us. And we're just watching. We're waiting,
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okay, that we're on. We're almost on the runway, we're
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waiting. And it lands it bounces up and it crashed lands right in
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front of us.
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John C Dvorak: That's fabulous.
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Adam Curry: And Tina says I didn't need to see that.
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John C Dvorak: That is the greatest story, especially for
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somebody who has not been up in a little plane
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Adam Curry: and the female pilots she was okay. But she
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bounced up like 30 feet in the air John and oh gee stalled and
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she landed really hard. lunk the gear collapses the plane starts
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to nose over. You know, it's like flip it didn't flip didn't
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flip. Okay. And I like and Tina's like, it's okay. We'll
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still go. Like, are you kidding me? You're probably possibly the
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bravest passenger ever. I had never even seen anything like
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that. That was crazy. So that takes an hour. Of course.
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John C Dvorak: That's hilarious. I
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Adam Curry: knew you'll get a kick out of it.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, I can just imagine
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Adam Curry: it was it was was not not a happy start. So then
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we fly. We got the tailwind so like three and a half hours. And
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then we're at Nashville airport, smaller airport near Nashville.
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And we're 8000 feet descending down and then all I hear is like
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Southwest air traffic control controls Southwest Airlines
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going Yeah, no, that's not moderate. That's not moderate
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turbulence. We'd appreciate a heads up you know, my passengers
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were pretty surprised by that. And I'm like, Oh, crap.
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Unknown: It's a good one. And
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Adam Curry: it is horrible. I mean, we are is it oh, we're
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bouncing all over. People were complaining in the hotel, people
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saying yeah, it was really rough coming in. So imagine that on
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, this will play out larious
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Adam Curry: Oh, 14 a man of certain points. You had my
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jacket over her head. She just didn't want to see
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John C Dvorak: Lee so poor girl. Yeah,
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Adam Curry: I am. So she is so badass. And she said now is in
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God's hands. I'm good. And then she happily went back to even
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flew back with us and she do it again. But just share why now.
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It was safe. It was a little too long for calm. For because you
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know we don't have it. No, no toilet facilities on board. Now
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you always got to consider that. Anyway, I'm sure we'll be
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talking more about that incurring the keeper there's a
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lot more to it but that was that was the highlights of the of the
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travel. And just man it was so great that so many people who
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have been around so long even Jeff Smith showed up. Yeah, the
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one and only Jeff Smith. So it was it was a great meetup and
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John C Dvorak: urging a lot of them. No.
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Adam Curry: You're just possibly the worst human being.
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John C Dvorak: Might as well get a jingle out of
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Adam Curry: you will be happy to know we do have some donations
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which we'll be discussing. Oh, cannot donate. Oh, there it is.
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Now he's happy. Okay, so everybody, here's the news for
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this morning in case you missed it, it blowed up. Elon Musk's
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420 launch? Did you see
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John C Dvorak: this? Have you seen a good movie? I think
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blowing up or glob
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Adam Curry: it would happen. It just started tumbling when the
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the main thruster or booster was supposed to separate and just
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starts turning and turning and then the whole thing you know,
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lights up on fire. It was great. Because Jean, you know, he's
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He's crazy about this. I mean, he wants to live with Elon and
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Sir gene. And so he's texted me. Oh, yeah. Well, a few minutes
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ago, and I'm getting the show ready, and then he's text me
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blast off. And then I don't hear anything from him. And then I
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get the clip start coming in. Here's an example of that
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separation.
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Unknown: So there was there's two big pieces of this rocket
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there's the starship itself and there's the booster underneath
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the booster had those 33 engines at about two minutes 50 seconds.
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They were supposed to separate where that booster is done it
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goes back to Earth and and then the starships engines light and
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go but that separation between those two really big pieces did
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not happen. And so then it is tumbling as both pieces together
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tumbling around and clearly with the engines led to explosions on
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the vehicle. You know some I mean I'm sure everyone is really
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is disappointed in some ways, but this is very much a test.
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And this starship project takes very audacious steps for good
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reason because it's the ship that will take us to the moon
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the biggest goal for them was to make sure they cleared the
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launch pad so the launch pad pad could be used again quickly
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because they have they have
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but now this was a development test.
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Adam Curry: Listen to that listen to how the message is
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changing here. Even with the explosions
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Unknown: we just saw you're saying this is a victory for
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them because they cleared the launch pad mentally in steps
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absolutely you know everything ready to go sensor systems you
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know all those kinds of things. All those things went well
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leaving the launchpad but what's really important about leaving
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the launchpad it sounds silly but if you damage that
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Launchpad, you can't try again very quickly. And that's this is
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their their modus operandi is to foil
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John C Dvorak: Rocky and I got to try quickly either way,
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listen to this modus
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Adam Curry: operandi
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Unknown: pad. You can't try again very quickly. And that's
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this is their their modus operandi is to fail, not to
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fail, but to basically fail often take big steps so that you
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can actually take those steps and see
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Adam Curry: No, I don't I don't agree with that. That's not
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that's no one. operate. Who
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John C Dvorak: is this spokeswoman?
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Adam Curry: She's a she's a Space X. spokeswoman. This is an
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AB Oh, yeah, obviously.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah. But oh, no, she's terrible. Fire her.
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Adam Curry: Maybe this is maybe it isn't her. Maybe this is
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anchor Katie. No, I think this is Katie Coleman.
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Unknown: Yeah, operandi. Is
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John C Dvorak: she apologizing for the company she's
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Adam Curry: the ABC space girl
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Unknown: but that's this is their their modus operandi it is
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to fail to basically, fail often take big steps so that you can
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steps and see if you can leap ahead as opposed to step you
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know, tiny step by tiny step. A lot of big steps with this
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launch. They have vehicles ready to go starships, okay, and
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boosters, ready to put on that pad. Again. I can't say how
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soon, but that's what's different about the way SpaceX
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thinks is. You know, let's let's take some big steps.
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Adam Curry: SpaceX thinks different they think failure.
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John C Dvorak: No, they want to blow things up because you learn
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a lot more.
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Adam Curry: I mean, I'm 60 years ago, we went to the moon
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remember? How come Elon can't do it? What because he wants to
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take big steps but not big enough to someone that we can
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replicate that is almost 60 years ago. I mean, this is kind
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of playing into my theory. If you don't mind me saying, What's
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your theory? We never went to the moon. Like you don't know my
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theory.
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John C Dvorak: Well, you have a ton of theories I thought you're
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gonna talk about using water as gasoline.
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Adam Curry: Meanwhile, they keep gaslighting us with this
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Unknown: this warning the Pentagon has revealed it's now
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tracking more than 650 potential cases of unidentified aerial
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phenomena, or UAS, commonly known as UFOs. That number up
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significantly from 350 reports referenced earlier this year,
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but official stress they found no evidence of alien activity,
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Arrow has found no credible evidence thus far of extra
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terrestrial activity offworld technology or objects that defy
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the known laws of physics, the majority of unidentified objects
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reported to arrow demonstrate mundane characteristics of
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balloons unmanned aerial systems clutter natural phenomena or
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other readily explainable sources.
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During a Senate hearing yesterday, officials played this
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video of an object behaving in a way they initially could not
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explain. But after analyzing the video frame by frame, they
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determined this
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this is the heat signature off of the engines of a commuter
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aircraft that happened to be flying in the vicinity
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also played at the hearing this video of an unresolved case
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showing a small orb spotted near a US drone flying in the Middle
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East last year. Officials say cases like this are hard to
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resolve because there's only video no other data UAPs at face
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new scrutiny in the months after the Chinese spy balloon was shot
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down off South Carolina. And now according to a recently leaked
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US intelligence report, China has manufactured a high altitude
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spy drone capable of flying at three times the speed of sound.
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officials fear it could be used to target US military sites. A
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government official who testified yesterday urged UFO
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enthusiast not to just post images on social media, but to
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submit them to scientists for research.
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Adam Curry: submit them to science for research.
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John C Dvorak: I love that little ball that shot underneath
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that one under one movie. Which one is your thing? No. This is a
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new dama de orb.
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Adam Curry: Oh, the tic tac thing
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John C Dvorak: was a tic tac I don't know what they were sure
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they had some buddy shooting a I think from I don't know from a
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satellite or something they know they're following some drone and
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into this little Mall. A cute little round chrome ball go
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shooting across the screen. Project Blue Beam. There we go.
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Adam Curry: So I've learned a new term, which I think we
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should incorporate it can be exclusive to the no agenda show
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it came from one of our producers. Who says you and John
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as usual have done a better job than anyone else at outlining a
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classic dangle up. A dangle up. Wow. Yeah. I said, you put in
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all the right clips to show this was a long term dangle.
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John C Dvorak: Was it dangle? Well, a dangle
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Adam Curry: a debt well read on and then use at the time when it
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becomes appropriate. In the old days, we used to use dangle ops
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only against our adversaries. I guess this is like a
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adversaries. adversary. Thank you. I guess there's more like
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what Whitney Webb would call a limited Hangout, but maybe the
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real term, maybe the real term is dangle up. And I'm starting
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to think that sounds a lot from from from one of our patients
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John C Dvorak: like he's working in somewhere.
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Adam Curry: Yes, I will read on the tactics here appeared to
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have more to do with bureaucrat bureaucratic score settling than
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policy with some political influence as well. It's not just
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cover your ass on Ukraine. It's not just pushing some form of
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the Restrict act. Or it could it be in my experience with the
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boys and Ford meeting at Langley from my times in Southwest Asia
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and Southern Africa and Central America in the 80s and 90s.
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John C Dvorak: Okay, no slouch, whoever it is already,
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Adam Curry: was to never underestimate their ability to
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confuse mission with bureaucratic achieve
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advancement. This dangle up is beautiful. It helps to fight if
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even if not successful, the blowback on the Restrict Act
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provides a counter to the Ukraine narrative which is
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falling apart at least politically. DOD gets nailed the
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White House get nailed but who doesn't get nailed? Well,
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obviously CIA now they're
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John C Dvorak: they're good to go. And I angle up i layers our
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show titles
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Adam Curry: right off the bat. I really like this and taking that
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in mind and of
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John C Dvorak: course we're always just comes to mind
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dangling, dangling you know, carrot, it's like dangling some
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shiny object you dangle it? Yes. Correct. That's and you get
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attracted to that whatever is being dangled, you go, Oh,
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what's that? And then you keep walking
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Adam Curry: towards a shiny object.
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John C Dvorak: It's a shiny object, and we're walking
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towards it because it's shiny.
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Adam Curry: So what I've noticed is and again, you know, you're
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gonna send me all the papers that you've seen, but I still
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haven't. No, I
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John C Dvorak: didn't. I never said that. You said you've seen
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so much and it's all I've seen them. It doesn't mean I got it.
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to send you okay, I have not seen
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Adam Curry: all the things that are being discussed. So as a
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dangle op, I completely agree with our, our operative in this
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case that this is this is going this is an operation that you
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can shove anything into we kind of, as we said he gave he
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complimented us, you guys figured it out. In fact, did you
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know that the no agenda show is the best podcast in the
20:22
universe? It's in the leaked documents. It was also in the
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Mueller report,
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John C Dvorak: if you recall. Yeah. Well, we know that I
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didn't know is in the lead. Yes. But yes, now that you mentioned
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it.
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Adam Curry: And who discovered all this? Who found this kid?
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This said, Oh, we got some great. We have so many cool
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producers. I have
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John C Dvorak: a bunch of notes, too. As lot of it. I want to
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throw one out there right away, which is that somebody claims
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that I disparaged the National Guard
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Adam Curry: do I don't think you did.
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John C Dvorak: Well, what I said was I thought that that because
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he was in the National Guard or whatever he was the you know,
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the reserves. Now, he was not as good as a full time Air Force
21:17
guy. And I said it in such a way that it was disparaging to one
21:21
of our National Guard listeners.
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Adam Curry: No, I think that's just people being sensitive
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because they they get that crap all the time. Oh, you're
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National Guard. You're not real. Even though even though they
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deployed more
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John C Dvorak: there, there was get shipped. Go to
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Adam Curry: Ukraine. Exactly. Hey, wait
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John C Dvorak: a minute. I'm not real. What am I doing here?
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Adam Curry: One of our former law enforcement officers from
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California wrote in and said the federal raid on the leaker with
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the SWAT team, having the suspect turn around and walk
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backwards, is obvious. The FBI was told to make a big show of
21:52
force in an effort to dissuade any future leakers. This was
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just a show of force pre planned and intentional. The news being
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aware was part of it. The news helicopter, the tactics of how
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the suspect was handled is commonly known as high risk or
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felony contact, where the cops don't go and engage the subs the
22:10
suspect. Instead, they make them walk backwards towards them. The
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point being to gauge the suspects level of cooperation
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and allow the officers the greatest advantage to a
22:19
potentially dangerous person was this necessary? No, especially
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since this was a nonviolent crime, digital crime. But again,
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this was a sledgehammer response used specifically to send a
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message that they are serious. And don't try this or this could
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be you know, I disagree with that. To me, this is all
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theater. And I think we pretty much deconstructed on 1547 that
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this is being used for anything that they need to throw out
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there. And it's when I hear this piece this is from this was Josh
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Rogan from the Wall Street Journal, Wall Street Journal who
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discovered this, if you recall, Josh Rogan, er O G I N. I, I
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have a feeling that the Wall Street Journal is in on this,
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because when you hear I've never heard a reporter from the Wall
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Street Journal doing the rounds, but now he is. And here's
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another little tidbit that he picked up from the leaked
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documents which I have not seen. Other than that we are the best
23:18
podcast in the universe. And I think this is being used, in
23:22
this case by military industrial complex or the money people
23:26
money people to get more money because China
23:28
Unknown: and there's the stuff that we should have known about
23:30
this is what I recorded on land that China has tested a new
23:33
hypersonic missile that can defeat our aircraft carriers and
23:36
our missile defense. In other words, we spent 30 years
23:38
building aircraft carriers and missile defense, and the Chinese
23:41
built a missile for 100 1000s of the price that makes those
23:45
things. Absolutely that seems kind of important for people to
23:48
know, why were we hiding that? That was in the documents, I
23:50
brought that out? I think that there's a lot of stuff in the
23:53
documents that American people should know, because it reveals
23:55
that the world is changing fast and our government really
24:00
Adam Curry: listen to them. Listen, here's the pitch.
24:03
Unknown: It does make a difference. Because usually I
24:05
would say, hey, we don't need to release everything that they
24:09
have knowing that what they have, but I think there is if
24:12
you hit it on the head, there is a need for the American people
24:17
to understand the world is about to dramatically change. And the
24:21
United States is sitting around with its hands in its pockets.
24:24
Right so maybe we
24:25
Adam Curry: shouldn't I think Glenn Beck has also been read in
24:28
action have him set this up. Okay, build
24:31
Unknown: more aircraft carriers, and maybe we should build the
24:33
stuff that fights hypersonics because that's what our enemies
24:36
are shooting at us. Okay, correct. And okay, how far to
24:39
these missiles fly and they're, they're hypersonic, which I've
24:44
just heard last week or the week before that. We now have one but
24:47
I don't know if I believe that. This is a hypersonic which makes
24:52
it almost impossible to take down. Right? Right. It's
24:56
hypersonic, which means it flies faster than sound, but it's also
24:59
hypersonic. The line, which means you can maneuver it. So
25:02
when we shoot up the missile defense, all we have to do is
25:03
maneuver around it. And we can also move, they can also
25:06
maneuver it to hit our aircraft carriers, basically as far as
25:09
Guam, as the Pacific is now, you know, no entry for our aircraft
25:13
carriers if they decide to use these things, that's a huge
25:16
problem for Taiwan, but not just for the entire south. They're
25:20
basically taking over Asia while we're sleeping. Okay, and now,
25:24
I'm not saying that we should buy hypersonic missiles to fight
25:27
hypersonic missiles. I'm saying that we should buy the things or
25:30
build the things that defend against hypersonic missiles. And
25:32
so it's complicated and you have to think ahead of your opponent,
25:36
but right now they're thinking ahead of us.
25:38
Adam Curry: It doesn't matter. He's just saying we need to we
25:40
need to spend the money spend money. And by
25:43
John C Dvorak: the way, his little commentary there
25:44
hypersonic is flying faster than the speed of sound is not
25:47
hypersonic. I mean, you think he'd have the kind of lingo
25:52
that's hypersonic specifically means five times the speed of
25:56
sound, right?
25:56
Adam Curry: Supersonic is faster than the speed of sound is one
25:59
time, right? Yeah, it would be. So CBS obviously they're they're
26:06
all in on it because they are the CIA broadcasting systems and
26:09
pixie girl is is reporting
26:11
Unknown: Catherine herridge has an update on the case,
26:13
handcuffed as he entered the Boston court. 21 year old Jack
26:17
tech serum now charged under the Espionage Act stared into space
26:21
since the Air National Guardsmen was arrested by heavily armed
26:24
federal agents outside his mother's Massachusetts home.
26:28
Bipartisan outrage has built on Capitol Hill over the leaked
26:31
Pentagon records posted online. Today, a private briefing by the
26:37
nation's top intelligence official seem to raise more
26:40
questions.
26:41
I certainly wasn't satisfied with any plans they have in
26:43
place to prevent this from happening in the future. I think
26:45
a lot of us wondered, you know, our 21 year old airman
26:50
gets access to all of this information yet a top secret
26:54
clearance.
26:55
traveling overseas defense secretary Osteen did have
26:59
extraordinary access and computer privileges because of
27:02
his military job.
27:03
This young man was a systems administrators dude. Yeah, he
27:09
was a computer specialists that that worked in an intelligence
27:13
unit.
27:14
Now that era National Guard intelligence wings mission is
27:17
suspended as government investigators.
27:20
Adam Curry: How does that work though, so they just shut down
27:22
the guys who were admitting stuff has just been stopped.
27:26
It's over. It's done. Your
27:27
Unknown: National Guard intelligence wings mission is
27:29
suspended. As government investigators probe the
27:32
potential damage to sources and methods like human spies and
27:35
wiretaps.
27:36
The breadth of the information that's been leaked is
27:39
problematic. Former senior
27:40
counterintelligence official Bill Evelina told CBS News
27:44
declassified records will undergo a painstaking review.
27:47
They're going line by line through these documents as part
27:50
of the damage assessment line by line
27:51
and we look to agency who provided that information or
27:54
multiple agencies look at it with their experts to deliver to
27:58
say what was in there and where do we get it from?
28:01
Adam Curry: I'm just not seeing all these documents. I'm hearing
28:04
reports about it. I mean, if it was out on the internet, where
28:09
is it? I just am not seeing all of this stuff. I didn't see any
28:14
intel about Chinese hypersonic missiles. I have not seen that.
28:20
And for ABC. They have not somebody
28:23
John C Dvorak: saw him but not you.
28:25
Adam Curry: That's what I mean. Yeah, people would always send
28:28
this stuff to me always and I've asked for it since the last show
28:31
nothing I'm just not seeing all this
28:34
John C Dvorak: mess trying to get you some snow. Okay, okay.
28:36
You're not making a promise.
28:41
Adam Curry: Okay, just fine. The Chinese missile stuff the
28:43
hypersonic missile, then I'll be happy. I don't think I don't
28:46
think it's out there. Here's ABC they have nothing they're not
28:49
reading. So what are we gonna do
28:51
Unknown: this morning? There's word that a pro Russian blogger
28:55
theta t ro role in the spreading of classified documents so
28:58
Adam Curry: we got a Russian thing. What is that? Oh, and
29:01
we're not doing that that game anymore,
29:03
Unknown: allegedly leaked by a young Air National Guardsmen in
29:06
Massachusetts. According to The Wall Street Journal. On April 5.
29:10
A social media again, Wall Street Journal with a name
29:12
translating to the Donbass girl posted four of the allegedly
29:17
leaked classified documents to its 65,000 followers. The Wall
29:21
Street Journal says that social media account is overseen by a
29:25
former US Navy officer in Washington State.
29:27
Adam Curry: Wait a minute. The Donbass girl is not real. It's
29:33
overseen by someone in Washington State. Did I
29:37
understand that properly?
29:39
John C Dvorak: I don't really know anything about the Donbass
29:42
girl. Yeah, she's
29:43
Adam Curry: been around posting stuff. That's the one who's kept
29:47
showing up and then she was dead. And then she was a
29:48
teacher, I think is not the one.
29:52
John C Dvorak: I like I said I don't remember but the Donbass
29:54
girl
29:55
Unknown: posted four of the allegedly leaked classified
29:58
documents to its 65 1000 followers. The Wall Street
30:01
Journal says that social media account is overseen by a former
30:05
US Navy officer in Washington State, whose actions reportedly
30:09
prompted several large Russian social media accounts to pick up
30:13
on the documents. ABC News has not confirmed the journals
30:16
reporting
30:18
John C Dvorak: was just a girl who has grabbed as many
30:21
documents as you can, and posted them or shipped them to Russia.
30:24
I have no idea. I know there's was something like that going
30:28
on. Do you think there's any chance that the Wall Street
30:30
Journal getting all this stuff and that there might be some
30:33
quid pro quo between News Corp and the fact that they settled a
30:37
Dominion suit? Oh, yeah. And now they get to they have to do this
30:40
as penance or there's some some Hanky Panky going on about that.
30:46
Interesting. it's any coincidence that the Dominion
30:49
suit Yeah, I use the word advisedly. Yeah. Any coincidence
30:54
that the that the suit was settled, but meanwhile, the Wall
30:57
Street Journal's staging for the Pentagon for all these stories?
31:00
Adam Curry: There are no coincidences in intelligence. Or
31:05
in government probably. Yeah, that I'm not quite sure how the
31:08
quid pro quo works is still out. $787 million,
31:14
John C Dvorak: or are they? Oh, Mm hmm.
31:20
Adam Curry: MSNBC is really pathetic if you thought ABC was
31:23
bad. Jen Psaki inside with Jen Sokka she's the worst she has
31:29
not.
31:31
John C Dvorak: Rotary on banning her now good. Probably
31:34
Adam Curry: a good idea. The ratings have halved since the
31:37
spectacular launch of the show, because everyone sampled it. And
31:41
when
31:42
John C Dvorak: a likable person, you know, TV people, especially
31:46
the women, the women, they have to be likable.
31:50
Adam Curry: Yes, she's not cheap. But it's also not just
31:52
the likability it's just dumb
31:54
Unknown: look for the country that cologne
31:56
Adam Curry: when did it Why does this have? Why is? Why do I only
31:59
have one channel from YouTube? Sokhi. Hold on second. I want to
32:02
do this. Sorry, I had no idea. See what happened? Oh, no, it's
32:09
only one channel
32:10
Unknown: classified information could be shared by a 21 year old
32:12
kid who simply wanted to show off. But you know, what else is
32:17
a bad look, when a 76 year old former president is suspected of
32:21
doing something pretty similar? Oh, no.
32:25
Adam Curry: This week. She's saying that it's a bad look.
32:30
When it 20 Something we've heard this contest consistently. Yeah,
32:33
John C Dvorak: I think we've heard it to death.
32:36
Adam Curry: Does this and you know shows off the documents.
32:38
He's, he's stolen. But you know, it's even worse than
32:42
Unknown: a 76 year old former president is suspected of doing
32:45
something pretty similar. This week, the New York Times
32:49
revealed that the Special Counsel in the MAR a Lago
32:51
documents case is investigating, quote whether former President
32:55
Trump showed off to aides and visitors a map with him when he
32:59
left office, a map that contains sensitive intelligence
33:02
information. We don't know what that map is up.
33:04
Adam Curry: But it's sensitive intelligence information. We'll
33:06
Unknown: know. Similar reporting from the Washington Post that
33:09
investigators are scrutinizing whether Trump's share classified
33:12
documents with political donors with political donors maybe to
33:16
show off to them so. And it comes after the post also
33:19
revealed that the FBI found highly classified nuclear
33:23
secrets pertaining to graft. Who knows what exactly or how much
33:29
information he might have shared or with whom we don't know that?
33:32
Yeah, there's clearly a lot we don't know. But even at this
33:35
early gen juncture, all of this begs the question of whether
33:39
Donald Trump will be held to the same standard as a 21 year old
33:43
Air National Guardsmen.
33:44
Adam Curry: It's not it's not even a good outrage story. I
33:48
mean, it's not good
33:49
John C Dvorak: at all. She's no good, but this day gave her the
33:52
bottom of the barrel writers. Yes.
33:55
Adam Curry: Yes, I think you're right. I mean, that's all they
33:58
had was that that's all they could do.
34:00
John C Dvorak: Pa, she's probably not a good person to
34:03
work with him to kind of fiery redhead. So she probably already
34:08
badgered the writers. I mean, I can just see that back that back
34:11
room. Yeah, they wouldn't get to do
34:13
Adam Curry: you mentioned that earlier. You think she's just
34:15
not nice to the to the people she works with? She
34:18
John C Dvorak: seems that way. She's got that duplicitous
34:23
smile. You know, that little that little I hear. I'm gonna
34:27
fix you eventually. Smile. She doesn't seem like a nice person.
34:33
She snaps Yeah. i And she's not a good host. She's made not
34:40
welcoming.
34:41
Adam Curry: I bet she she did. She's made some enemies along
34:43
the way to know what I mean. I could be I think so. I think
34:48
she's probably made some good enemies. Okay. I see kind of the
34:54
topics you have. So I'm going to do one that you don't have. And
34:57
then this is I think this is better. In the news is
35:02
artificial intelligence. Oh my oh my oh my
35:07
John C Dvorak: I've got a one clip. Oh clips on that. I do.
35:10
Okay, but they're teasers because I
35:14
Adam Curry: was too teasers. I got stuff. Oh, okay.
35:16
John C Dvorak: Well, let's listen to Scott Pelley. No,
35:19
that's stupid 60 minutes report that everyone was all all over.
35:24
I just want to play a couple of his opening remarks to show you
35:27
what an dumb report and an idiot this guy is. And I will do a
35:32
complete deconstruction of that on the Sunday show. Good. We may
35:36
Unknown: look on our time, as the moment civilization was
35:40
transformed as it was by fire, agriculture and electricity. In
35:46
2023, we learned that a machine taught itself how to speak to
35:51
humans like appear, which is to say with creativity, truth,
35:56
error and lies.
35:58
Adam Curry: No, no. Okay. Wow, she just throw up on relativity
36:04
no less. Whoo. Yeah. And
36:06
John C Dvorak: lies. Idiot number two clip
36:10
Unknown: is only one of the recent breakthroughs in
36:13
artificial intelligence machines that can teach themselves
36:17
superhuman skills. No.
36:20
John C Dvorak: Okay, what's the suit? What? What in your mind?
36:23
This could have been an ask Adam, what are your mind is
36:25
superhuman? What is superhuman? flying faster than a jet planes
36:32
or speeding bullet? Speeding Bullet X wrapping vision
36:37
stopping a
36:37
Adam Curry: moving train? X rays,
36:40
John C Dvorak: stopping a movie train? X ray vision?
36:42
Adam Curry: Yes, I would say X ray vision is good. I mean, if
36:45
you could do large sums in your head, maybe but computers do
36:48
that. And the only thing that's new here is these these LLM 's
36:55
baby you know I'm sure there's an LLM that's good for our
36:59
organization. You got to talk like that. Now large language
37:01
models. That's what all the marketing kids are talking about
37:04
the big lol. It's bull.
37:08
John C Dvorak: I would not I would have done this whole thing
37:10
that I'm going to do on Sunday today if I hadn't gotten so many
37:13
clips on one other topic, which I think is more important and
37:16
more newsworthy. But this report included, was based on a ton of
37:24
lies. The Silicon Valley guys have buffaloed people like Scott
37:29
Pelley who haven't got a clue. And they had
37:32
Adam Curry: Carlson who go on Tucker Carlson also no clue.
37:36
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Tucker Carlson would be clueless. And I
37:38
will take the idea that there is the other thing I could have
37:43
done. I'm gonna do a lot of stuff I keep promising. I don't
37:46
do it. But I'm going to do this. I'm going to take the Elon Musk
37:51
interview with Tucker in and cut it up. So it makes sense.
37:57
Adam Curry: I do have one clip from it today.
38:00
John C Dvorak: I won't bother me at all.
38:03
Adam Curry: So just just to hit the top line. I mean, what has
38:07
happened here is Silicon Valley has unleashed they're cracking
38:10
the UNLEASH THE KRAKEN moment to raise capital in a declining
38:13
advertising market and a profitable possible larger than
38:16
ever thought recession. And, and all of a sudden, oops, there was
38:22
chat GPT a got away from Elon. He wasn't he wasn't he was he
38:26
had his eye off the ball, I think. And then this Sam Altman
38:30
is
38:32
John C Dvorak: Sam Altman is the FTX guy.
38:35
Adam Curry: No. Is it Sam Altman? No, no, no, no, that's
38:39
now you're confusing me.
38:41
John C Dvorak: Now Sam Friedman.
38:44
Adam Curry: That's bagman fried. Yes. Bank man
38:47
John C Dvorak: fried fried whatever. Like fries. Sounds
38:51
better, because he's going to
38:53
Adam Curry: so ALTMAN I think it's Altman you know, he he
38:57
basically launches this, this marketing ploy, which is just
39:02
dynamite was a genius. And you know, as we all know it and
39:06
everyone's running around, all the consultants are going oh,
39:08
it's horrible. But they're desperate for, for a business
39:13
model. I have not heard a business model yet. No one's
39:15
gonna pay for this. But yeah, of course,
39:19
John C Dvorak: you know, I had just mentioned this. So in the
39:22
60 minutes piece, one of the guys they bring in their AI guy,
39:28
not AI nut. No, he says he had to do this and that to get into
39:32
Google, he says, because what I really want to do is get into
39:35
and then they wrote, they do a voiceover say he wanted to get
39:38
into the Google, they showed one of the data centers. And it was
39:43
this dataset, this monstrous data center that was cost a
39:48
fortune to operate, where Barfi exists. Also, guess all I'm
39:54
gonna stick with your theory on this. This is too expensive,
39:58
Adam Curry: and they have no business Model people will have
40:00
to pay for it if they want to use it and they're gonna have to
40:03
pay a lot. And there's the there's seemingly no way. I
40:07
mean, it's not like they're gathering your most intimate
40:10
thoughts. You know, you're saying, hey, write me some code,
40:14
write me a thesis write me this. Make me oh, do a photo. This is
40:19
a beautiful story.
40:20
Unknown: Now a fierce debate has been sparked in the world of
40:22
photography after an artist entered a photo competition with
40:26
an image generated by artificial intelligence, and won. The image
40:30
shows two women which do not exist and was entered into the
40:35
creative category of the Sony world photography awards by
40:39
German artists, Boris and Jackson. Jackson has refused the
40:43
prize and said he submitted the image to find out if
40:46
competitions would be prepared for AI images to enter
40:52
Adam Curry: now, so they have this guy on a moment. Have you
40:54
seen this picture? No. Oh, go look for the Sony photo award.
41:00
You'll see these two women, it people were sending it to me,
41:03
you know, like kgs. And it was said to me kg saying, Do you
41:09
think what do you think of this photo? I'm like, well, that's
41:12
obviously a I look at the fingers. The left hand is like
41:15
her thumb is upside down. Hello. Look at the woman behind her
41:19
face. It's obviously AI generated at that point. I
41:22
didn't know that Sony had given it the award, the award for best
41:26
photo. So that says something about the Sony judges for this
41:34
competition. But this this is a nonstory, you look at this thing
41:37
you see it right away
41:38
John C Dvorak: with a woman and a woman behind her. And it's
41:40
like, Yes,
41:41
Adam Curry: look at it. Look at the hand on the on her. Oh
41:44
John C Dvorak: my god, the hand on the left to her or I'm sorry,
41:48
her right hand and the woman behind is deformed. And how
41:52
about the other hand is coming off from some place in the in
41:56
another town and
41:57
Adam Curry: the thumb of her left of her left hand is on the
42:01
bottom. I see this right away.
42:05
John C Dvorak: Oh my god, you're right.
42:07
Unknown: Looks like they were not and the artists behind that
42:09
picture joins me now. Boris L Jackson, welcome to the day. Now
42:13
it's being reported that you revealed that the picture you
42:16
submitted was a I generated but you were pretty upfront about it
42:20
ever since you found out you were selected, weren't you?
42:23
Yes, of course, it was not about winning anything. It was making
42:27
a test, trying to find out if the competition is prepared. And
42:32
my mission was to create awareness for that, that we need
42:36
to keep this in mind in the for the community that it is going
42:39
to happen. It's going to happen on a much, much larger scale in
42:43
the future.
42:44
How did the organizers of the event react when you told them
42:48
the picture was in fact not a photograph?
42:53
I offered them they could like give it to someone else. But if
42:56
they don't, it would be good to have an open conversation for
42:59
the public. Because it is something that is pressuring the
43:02
football community. Their response was thought they were
43:05
saying you can keep it and that was it. There was no response to
43:08
my offer of having a discussion or conversation
43:11
Adam Curry: right so they're so embarrassed as they should be
43:13
because anyway
43:15
John C Dvorak: I'm disagreeing This is a scam. Do not
43:20
embarrassed this was all done for publicity. I never heard of
43:23
this competition before now I've heard of it. This is bogus. That
43:27
picture just just for I don't care if the thumbs here or there
43:31
anyplace else that picture sucks. It's not a ward winning
43:35
photo.
43:38
Adam Curry: Well, I'm in agreement on that too. Yeah. Oh,
43:41
it's
43:41
John C Dvorak: not an award winning for this is the best A
43:43
good practice is pretty piss poor the best they could do. I
43:46
think Sony was in on this this is the whole thing was is is a
43:49
Dipsy do it's bullcrap. Very positive publicity stunt. Oh,
43:54
we're so embarrassed that we were fooled. Bullcrap
43:58
Adam Curry: a Dipsy? Do Dipsy? Do. Okay, so, here comes part of
44:03
what I think is a real problem. And what Silicon Valley is so
44:07
worried about are all going to die. Now what's happening? Is
44:12
your eroding your existing business model of stealing
44:16
people's content and charging users to view it, listen to it,
44:21
etc. And user generated content? Well, yes, they're happy taking
44:26
the user generated content, but when it comes to stuff that's
44:28
licensed, that they that Google pays an enormous amount of money
44:33
to the record industry that recorded music industry in
44:37
licensing to be used on YouTube and other other avenues as
44:42
doesn't matter that they licensed that for their reels
44:45
you know, of course, that's what tick tock is all about. This
44:48
would have been part of what made them great is having all
44:51
the license all the music license for people to use, and
44:54
now it's like, oh,
44:57
Unknown: you know the name and with 40 The number one hits
45:01
there's no mistaking superstar Rihanna is voice either. But
45:06
this morning major concern in the music industry as verbiage
45:10
from artists like Rihanna, or artificially being warped into
45:14
songs they've never even recorded, like Beyonce has hit
45:17
cuff it
45:24
this rendition featuring Rihanna is voice made using artificial
45:28
intelligence
45:36
AI version going viral on social media notching more than 6
45:41
million views on Twitter and Rihanna isn't the only one. Some
45:45
artists like David Guetta, even using AI themselves to add
45:48
surprises to their set lists.
45:51
And that went to another AI website that can
45:54
John C Dvorak: recreate
45:56
Unknown: the voice and put the text in that
45:59
the DJ playing an AI generated sample of rapper m&ms voice in
46:04
front of a live audience.
46:06
This is the future of rave sounds.
46:07
I'm getting Austin and underground. Get a clarifying on
46:10
Twitter. Obviously, I won't release this commercially Drake
46:14
that up after this hit from rapper ice spice you thought I
46:18
was gonna use got a Drake remake without his permission or an
46:23
actual performance by him. He thought I was gonna you know,
46:26
Drake now calling it the final straw. experts warned this
46:30
technology could lead to major legal battles. When you put up
46:34
a song whether it's on tick tock or if you put it on through
46:38
YouTube. Well, you're distributing music, and then you
46:40
may be subject to copyright laws or takedown policies from those
46:44
platforms.
46:45
Now Universal Music Group home of artists like Katy Perry and
46:49
Taylor Swift asking streaming services to block AI companies
46:53
from accessing its music.
46:55
I think what you're going to see is the major labels and major
46:59
label publishers come together and put a lot of pressure on the
47:02
platforms to regulate AI generated music, the major
47:06
labels and publishers spend so much time effort money marketing
47:10
these artists, they want to make sure that they're getting paid
47:12
accordingly.
47:13
Adam Curry: Yeah, so that ship has left as far as I'm
47:16
concerned. It's yeah, when it comes to Silicon Valley, where
47:20
they have no way to make money off of this, and it's
47:22
cannibalizing their existing lock on industry, because they
47:26
can afford the licenses and now they're getting in trouble with
47:29
the license holders. And the license holders are not happy.
47:33
And it also shows you how pathetic This music is. This
47:37
will auto tune that almost AI to begin with, most of it is
47:41
pathetic. And notice that it's not creating the new Beatles
47:45
band. It's not creating the new nirvana. No, it's taking old
47:49
stuff, existing stuff existing and putting a different artists
47:54
voice over it. It's not anything new and innovative. There's no
47:57
human creativity in here. But all tell the kids about it as as
48:01
like they talk about on the social and MA
48:03
Unknown: are the artists rights
48:06
in all of this. Now,
48:08
this is where it gets really tricky. Because when you
48:11
generate something, whether that's a piece of art or a song,
48:14
it's technically a new piece of content. So if I asked for a
48:17
song in the style of Ariana Grande, it will make music that
48:20
sounds exactly like hers, but it's not her music. And as it
48:24
stands today, you can't copyright a vibe or an essence.
48:28
So we might see some revisions to copyright laws or some rules
48:31
as to what can and can't get included in training these
48:34
systems. In fact, yesterday, Universal Music put out a big
48:38
statement that none of their artists work can be used to
48:40
train AI systems.
48:42
Adam Curry: Wow, wow. Wow, oh, no, this it's just as bad as
48:52
that photo. No, compile something classical for me
48:57
something brand new, not in the style of That's it. That's all
49:01
it can do is in the style of Shakespeare in the style of this
49:04
in the style of Drake in the style. He'd be up at Oh, in the
49:08
style, do a poem in the style of John C. Dvorak. How many times
49:12
if someone said that to you. So
49:16
John C Dvorak: there was a lawsuit. I think it was in the
49:19
late 20s or 30s. And I think it still stands around as precedent
49:24
being Crosby. It's very well known and immune. He was just
49:28
acting like
49:30
Adam Curry: Crosby was universally not liked.
49:34
John C Dvorak: Bing Crosby sued a guy who sounded exactly like
49:39
him. And he was picking up a lot of voiceover work for
49:43
commercials and other things. And Crosby won the suit. Really.
49:49
And that kind of thing is still valid. I think there's a lot of
49:52
these things like you can't use things for advertising. You
49:55
know, you can't it's just a lot of you can't put somebody's I
49:59
can't put your picture You're on some advertisement for a car.
50:02
I'm
50:03
Adam Curry: no yes. No, no, you can't.
50:05
John C Dvorak: So this is no different. I don't see the
50:07
difference. This is just, you know, yeah. Okay, you can you
50:11
can find some that sounds just like Ariana Grande to create
50:14
some bogus song to if you want. It's just a it's a it's a
50:18
tempest in a teapot.
50:20
Adam Curry: Precisely. But the from a rights perspective,
50:24
there's going to be right there's already several
50:26
lawsuits. Now Elon Musk is suing Microsoft that saying, Whoa,
50:31
they illegally scraped Twitter to train their AI Um, can you
50:37
imagine the chat GPT 123 and four, and auto GPT and all this
50:44
GPT stuff has all been trained on Twitter conversations. That's
50:50
well, that's some solid data for you. Though this is this is a
50:56
John C Dvorak: helming lawsuit. That's a dubious lawsuit.
50:59
Adam Curry: But this is a Hail Mary from Silicon Valley. And
51:02
and the the main plan. Elon Musk shows is true. Barnum Bailey,
51:08
self PT Barnum self, because as I'm so convinced this guy
51:13
doesn't know what he's talking about. He's just a marketing
51:15
guy. When he talked to Tucker, about this about Larry Page and
51:19
or Larry, I don't talk anymore because we had a dispute over AI
51:23
and I said it was dangerous. We have to keep it open. And no man
51:27
you were boning his wife. We all know what happened. That's why I
51:31
got in a fight. Remember that little story? I Yes. No, yes,
51:36
no. Now it was a I mean,
51:39
Unknown: the reason open AI exists at all is that Larry
51:44
Page, and I used to be close friends, and I would stay at his
51:46
house in Palo Alto. And I would talk to him late into the night
51:49
about AI safety and AI safety. At least my perception was that
51:55
Larry was not taking AI safety seriously enough. And what did
52:01
he say about it? He really seemed to be hit out
52:04
Adam Curry: in my house. Get off, my wife is going to say my
52:09
wife get
52:09
John C Dvorak: out of my house.
52:11
Unknown: She really seems to be what it was once sort of digital
52:16
super intelligence, basically digital God, if you will,
52:19
Adam Curry: digital god. Yeah, there it is.
52:22
Unknown: As soon as possible. wanted that? Yes. He's made many
52:27
public statements over the years. That the whole goal of
52:30
Google is what's called AGI artificial general intelligence
52:34
Adam Curry: and understand something and helped me and
52:36
we'll continue this in a minute. If the whole goal of Google was
52:40
the digital guide, the general artificial intelligence, why did
52:45
Google scramble and have to throw barf out there after
52:48
Microsoft basically did something that was cute. I mean,
52:53
wouldn't they be the leaders? Would they have it already? And
52:57
instead, they throw up something that that missed
53:00
John C Dvorak: a long way they threw together Google Plus?
53:03
Yeah, whether they would because they're always late to the game.
53:06
And so yes, I'll tell you why. Okay, because Musk is full of
53:12
crap about this.
53:13
Unknown: Yeah. He's made many public statements over the
53:16
years. That's the whole goal of Google is what's called AGI
53:21
artificial general intelligence or artificial superintelligence.
53:24
No, and I agree with him that there's great potential for
53:27
good, but there's also potential for bad and so if you've got
53:31
some radical new technology, you want to try to take set actions
53:35
that maximize probably a bit will do good and minimize
53:39
probably will do bad things. Yes. It can't just be helpful.
53:42
Others just go, you know, barreling forward and hope for
53:47
the best and then at one point I said, Well, what about you know,
53:51
we're gonna make sure humanity's okay here.
53:55
Adam Curry: Okay, what is this? What is this? What is this
53:58
laughing What is this? Autism
54:01
John C Dvorak: is your scene about a patient's wife.
54:03
Unknown: And then at one point I said Well, what about you know,
54:07
we're gonna make sure humanity's okay here.
54:12
Adam Curry: I think you're right, I think your case closed.
54:15
Unknown: And they called me a speciesist. use that term.
54:22
Adam Curry: Yes. Now, why is this so hilarious? A specious,
54:27
meaning that he only likes species or something you'd like
54:30
to know
54:31
John C Dvorak: specious. specious is the is a term for
54:34
for developing an argument as bullcrap where he said he was a
54:39
speciesist voices he was a specious yes as in speech, so
54:43
they thought that was hilarious. It's not funny at all. What it
54:46
will specious, say being an ageist.
54:53
Adam Curry: Species species, okay. It's in here. Oh, that's
54:57
the assumption of human superiority. The leading to the
55:01
exploitation of animals. People who don't like animals,
55:07
John C Dvorak: humans who hate animals, as they say humans who
55:10
hate animals. Yeah. speciesist
55:14
Adam Curry: species alternative? Here's the Yeah, I keep
55:22
speciesism speciesism the assumption of human superiority
55:26
leading to the exploitation of animal species definition by the
55:30
Free Dictionary, let's do that. That's
55:32
John C Dvorak: it. Well then has that even fit into the
55:33
conversation in contacting tolerance
55:36
Adam Curry: or discrimination on the basis of species, especially
55:38
as manifested to cruelty to or exploitation of animals by
55:42
humans? This is why I didn't think it was funny.
55:46
John C Dvorak: Why it doesn't make sense. It's not only not
55:48
funny, maybe.
55:50
Unknown: And there were witnesses. That wasn't the only
55:51
one there when he called his wife. So I was like, okay,
55:56
that's, I've Yes, I'm a speciesist. Okay, you got me.
56:02
What do you got? Busted. So
56:11
Adam Curry: he's got like, camel has cackle problem.
56:13
Unknown: That was his last role at the Google had acquired
56:18
DeepMind. So Google and DeepMind together had about three
56:20
quarters of all the AI talent in the world. They obviously had
56:24
trust amount of money.
56:25
Adam Curry: Yeah, so a question. What happened to Deep Mind what
56:28
happened to Deep Blue? Remember IBM? Oh, Deep Blue beat to the
56:32
world chess champion.
56:33
John C Dvorak: Oh, that was a did it. It didn't need to do
56:35
anything. Anyway, retired.
56:37
Adam Curry: Well, didn't they create an entire business line
56:39
that went nowhere? And they had to basically shelve it because
56:44
they wasn't worried Watson. Watson. That's what it was
56:47
Watson. The road the road to Silicon Valley is littered work.
56:52
No. I mean,
56:54
John C Dvorak: this Watson is probably stems from the old 80s
56:58
flop, AI flop and it's just a new version of it. Yeah, only
57:02
this one's gotten a little more traction because it's cut
57:05
everyone flat footed. I don't know. This is the strangest
57:08
thing I've ever seen. Well, this
57:09
Adam Curry: reminds me a lot of another canard. But I even went
57:14
to Boston and stood in line to get one of the first ones
57:17
because this was it. He could recognize your handwriting. You
57:21
could understand what you want. The Newton
57:25
John C Dvorak: is a Newton, new net new New Town. That's
57:28
probably what it should have been called the Newton. I said
57:30
the Newton. No, as I said, new town, the Newton. Well, hey,
57:34
let's go along. Go back to Google. Google Goggles Google
57:38
Glass, yes. Another great product. Google Glasses.
57:41
Everyone was wearing. Glasses. Scoble was wearing him in the
57:46
shower. This is why
57:47
Adam Curry: I keep telling you when Scoble is all in on
57:49
something that means it's bullcrap. And he is he's going
57:52
crazy with AI. It's the new god. It'll help you kick your alcohol
57:57
habit, your addiction. I mean, he's saying all of that he's
58:00
saying these things know, any. Anybody who in the music
58:06
business will hear. I mean, you hear it, human beings can hear
58:10
when things are just not human. They're just not human. I don't
58:16
think any of these songs are impressive. And that goes for a
58:20
lot of this music in general. I'm sure a musician may be able
58:25
to use some so called AI to to create something just like you
58:32
can create some code. The end some writing.
58:36
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you can do this. Yeah, you can do augment.
58:40
Augment. Yeah. No one wants to deal with the augmentation
58:43
aspect they think is going to be standalone monster.
58:47
Adam Curry: I think augmented intelligence is probably a
58:50
better term. Just like it was, you know, virtual reality didn't
58:56
work. So then it was always augmented reality. So you have
58:59
some stuff pasted over it. That's exactly what this feels
59:02
like. Nothing at all. Like, like we're being we're going to oh,
59:06
we're all gonna like Scott Pelley. Oh, we're all gonna die
59:09
from the evil human machine. And Elon Musk is in on this scam. He
59:15
probably needs to raise some money for it to
59:19
John C Dvorak: Elon Musk is in on it for a different not
59:21
because he believes any of it.
59:24
Adam Curry: No, I think he's not because he needs to raise money
59:27
so
59:27
John C Dvorak: money there's money Money money money this
59:29
guy's good. Yes,
59:30
Adam Curry: I agree much as much as Money money money. I love the
59:37
love the story about the Apple basically beating Elon to the
59:41
punch. To remember Elon he's building x.com And everyone's
59:45
gonna put their money into x.com They're gonna get interest or
59:48
they can if they want go negative interest, which is also
59:50
known as a loan and they will be able to pay each other all
59:54
through this fabulous the truth GPT app, formerly known as
59:57
Twitter now is x and Apple comes along and says, Oh, you know
1:00:02
what? We're gonna give you 4.15% interest. Just put your money
1:00:06
into Apple Pay about that. I think I think they beat him. We
1:00:11
John C Dvorak: talked about this Sunday, he implied it. There was
1:00:14
a I couldn't find any evidence that they won't let you do this
1:00:17
on anything other than an iPhone. That's my concern. No,
1:00:21
you
1:00:21
Adam Curry: have to Yes, an iPhone and you have to have the
1:00:23
apple credit card. You have to have both, I think. Yeah, no, of
1:00:27
course. Duh.
1:00:30
John C Dvorak: I think it's illegal. In what way? Vertical
1:00:35
integration. There's okay. So there's antitrust. You can't do
1:00:38
that. I don't think I don't think it's the I think somebody
1:00:40
who's smart lawyer can take this and say, Now, you have to open
1:00:45
this up. You can't have it just exclusive to your phone.
1:00:49
Adam Curry: No. I mean, I don't care. I don't want it. I think I
1:00:53
think Elon may be a little irked because this was supposed to be
1:00:56
his big thing.
1:00:58
John C Dvorak: He's got plenty of time to make money.
1:01:01
Adam Curry: Okay. I don't know. He might get devoured by the
1:01:04
evil AI.
1:01:05
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, that could happen, too. We can only
1:01:07
hope. All right.
1:01:09
Adam Curry: Let me guess You wanted to talk about the Robert
1:01:13
Kennedy Jr. Announcement for running for president. Was that
1:01:16
your big story?
1:01:17
John C Dvorak: No, my big story is I'm countrified. come to
1:01:20
conclusion. I've got evidence. I do have that though. I do have
1:01:24
that. Yes. But I have evidence that they're out to get the Joe.
1:01:27
Adam Curry: Yeah, I think you're right,
1:01:31
John C Dvorak: in a concerted way. And the concerted way
1:01:34
involved, I got three sets, or two sets of clips. And what
1:01:41
makes it obvious to me that something's up is one of the set
1:01:45
of clips is from democracy. Now. All anti Joe Hold on, and
1:01:51
Unknown: Amy Goodman clip inbound.
1:01:54
John C Dvorak: And one of the sets is from CBS stuff I never
1:01:59
thought I'd ever hear on CBS. And today I might add, as we may
1:02:04
have low numbers listening to the show, because on today's
1:02:08
Jennifer Hudson show, which started at 11 When our show
1:02:11
start oh no Kamla Harris.
1:02:15
Adam Curry: Oh, she's out there promoting her. She's out
1:02:18
John C Dvorak: there. They're doing the last testing. If they
1:02:21
can, if she can just get to a certain point. They're gonna
1:02:24
pull a plug on Joe, and put her in. And that's my thesis,
1:02:28
literally. So I want
1:02:29
Adam Curry: to literally pull the plug on Joe.
1:02:31
John C Dvorak: Maybe. But I want to start I'm trying to English
1:02:34
to start with the CBS stuff. But I think I'm going to start with
1:02:38
the, with the democracy that you played the clip for Democracy
1:02:42
Now. This is an HHS scandal that is really targeting Biden, and
1:02:47
this is extremely unbelievable, as far as I'm concerned. And so
1:02:52
insofar as Democrats going after Joe,
1:02:56
Unknown: The New York Times is reporting the Biden
1:02:59
administration's repeatedly ignored or missed warnings about
1:03:02
a surge of migrant children as young as 12. working in
1:03:06
factories across the United States. The Times reports quote,
1:03:10
at least five Health and Human Services staff members filed
1:03:14
complaints and said they were pushed out after raising
1:03:17
concerns about child's safety. And one of the HHS staffers told
1:03:22
The New York Times, quote, I feel like short of protesting in
1:03:26
the streets. I did everything I could to warn them. They just
1:03:29
didn't want to hear it. She said. In February, The Times
1:03:33
published a blockbuster report about child labor based on
1:03:36
accounts by over 100 unaccompanied migrant children,
1:03:39
mostly from Central America, who describe grueling and often
1:03:43
dangerous working conditions, including having to use heavy
1:03:46
machinery being subjected to long hours and late night shifts
1:03:50
at facilities that manufacture products from major brands and
1:03:53
retailers like hearthside Food solutions, the makers of
1:03:56
Cheerios, fruited lume Whole Foods target Walmart, J. Crew,
1:04:00
Frito. Lay and Ben and Jerry's. Others were forced to work as
1:04:04
cleaning staff at hotels at slaughterhouses construction
1:04:08
sites car factories owned by General Motors and Ford in
1:04:11
serious violation of child labor laws. On Tuesday, Homeland
1:04:15
Security Secretary Alex hundra Mayorkas was grilled about the
1:04:20
Biden administration's response to forced child labor. This is
1:04:25
Republican senator Josh Hawley of Missouri.
1:04:28
Adam Curry: You're not gonna take any responsibility for the
1:04:31
indentured servitude and exploitation of children that is
1:04:33
happening on your watch a moment ago, you were crowing about the
1:04:36
fact that you treated children so well. And yet we find 10s of
1:04:41
1000s of children who are forced to work as slaves because of
1:04:46
your policies. And you turn around and blame a prior
1:04:49
administration. Mr. Secretary, this is par for the course for
1:04:52
you. You do it every time you appear before this committee.
1:04:55
You do it every time you appear before Congress I for 1am sick
1:04:58
and tired of it and 1000s of times Children are in physical
1:05:01
danger. Danger because of what you were doing. You should have
1:05:06
resigned long ago and if you cannot change course you should
1:05:09
be removed from office
1:05:12
John C Dvorak: yeah all right. Yeah. Here's the here's the
1:05:15
gravity the situation to imagine AMY GOODMAN playing a holly clip
1:05:23
to conclusion
1:05:25
Adam Curry: yes without without scoffing at Holly. You know, and
1:05:31
because Holly is a takedown artist, I mean, that's part of
1:05:34
what he does. He makes sound bites he wakes up in the morning
1:05:37
says, How can I make a sound bite on C span? And then to get
1:05:40
it on Democracy Now? I agree with you that is there. There's
1:05:43
that's that's bad. That's bad. Bad news for Joe.
1:05:47
John C Dvorak: This. Well, yes, but let's go to clip two and now
1:05:50
they bring into a Pulitzer Prize winning writer for the New York
1:05:54
Times and she was just lasered layer after layer of bad news.
1:05:59
Unknown: We're joined now by Hannah Dreier Pulitzer Prize
1:06:03
winning reporter at The New York Times. Her new investigation is
1:06:06
headlined as migrant children were put to work us ignored
1:06:11
warnings. dryers earlier piece was headlined alone and
1:06:15
exploited migrant children work brutal jobs across the US.
1:06:20
Hannah Dreier Welcome back to Democracy Now we had you on for
1:06:24
your first blockbuster expository showing children as
1:06:28
young as 12, working across the United States. Now you're
1:06:32
reporting that the Biden administration knew about this
1:06:36
not only knew about this and didn't do anything, they
1:06:39
actually did do something. They pushed out those within the
1:06:43
administration who were raising alarms, can you talk about what
1:06:47
you found?
1:06:50
It's great to be with you, Amy. And yeah, just as you say,
1:06:55
people were punished for bringing this to the attention
1:06:59
of their supervisors, people say that they were fired, they were
1:07:02
demoted. I spent a year talking to children who came to this
1:07:07
country and are working in the most exploitative conditions in
1:07:12
factories and slaughterhouses. I found these children in every
1:07:15
single state in this country. And so after that story came
1:07:19
out, I began asking how could it have been that the Biden
1:07:21
administration didn't know about this? And what I found was that
1:07:25
actually, they weren't given evidence, they were given
1:07:28
warnings, there was sign after sign that this was happening for
1:07:32
two years. And that really didn't spring into action until
1:07:36
just last month.
1:07:38
Adam Curry: And you know, they, whenever you they use children,
1:07:42
they really mean business. Whenever they, whenever it's
1:07:47
something that is done to children with that did the same
1:07:49
thing to Trump. You're ripping children, children, mothers
1:07:53
arms, children in cages. Yeah.
1:07:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah. No, this is serious. And I'm telling you,
1:07:59
this is concerted effort. We're gonna end when you see it on
1:08:02
Democracy Now. Yeah. And then CBS when you hear the CBS clips
1:08:06
is not about this, it's another thing they're going after this
1:08:09
guy, but listen to this clip, this part three is really
1:08:12
interesting.
1:08:14
Unknown: I was particularly struck by the the information
1:08:19
about, uh, Susan Rice, the White House head of domestic policy,
1:08:24
and I heard the reports that there were problems in terms of
1:08:29
how these children are being treated. And you talk about
1:08:31
that, because cuz Susan Rice is a person who has been in every
1:08:35
Democratic administration over the last 30 years, Bill Clinton,
1:08:39
Barack Obama, and now Joe Biden,
1:08:41
right. Susan Rice is a hugely important figure, and she is
1:08:45
Biden's top point person on immigration. So it's not, you
1:08:49
know, some junior staffer at the White House who maybe got a
1:08:53
warning one time and it didn't get, you know, channeled in the
1:08:57
appropriate way. What I found was that Susan Rice's team was
1:09:00
told about this again, and again. And the kind of evidence
1:09:04
we're talking about are clusters of children found to be working
1:09:09
in different parts of the country, repeatedly in these
1:09:13
very industrial jobs. So these are children, making car parts,
1:09:17
these are children using caustic chemicals, acids to scrub a
1:09:21
chicken plant. And those messages, got to Susan Rice's
1:09:25
level memos, airing concerns about these issues, got to Susan
1:09:32
races level, her team was told, going back to, you know, the
1:09:37
summer of 2021, that people were very worried about this. And
1:09:42
what the White House has basically said as well, maybe we
1:09:45
saw these signs, but we didn't put it all together. What their
1:09:50
response has been is sort of a lack of curiosity or a lack of
1:09:54
conscientious thinking, to realize that if we're seeing
1:09:57
kids in all these different places who are doing these jobs.
1:10:00
Maybe there's a larger trend here. Maybe there's 1000s of
1:10:03
these kids out there.
1:10:04
Adam Curry: What companies are using these children? How is
1:10:08
this happening in America?
1:10:09
John C Dvorak: But they named names earlier. Frito Lay General
1:10:12
Motors Ford,
1:10:14
Adam Curry: Ford,
1:10:15
John C Dvorak: that's what I'd like to know exactly. If you
1:10:17
remember, before we started doing this show, I'm sure you
1:10:20
recall this. There was a big stink. I think it was during the
1:10:23
Bush administration or before that a big stink about these
1:10:26
migrants getting jobs and there were laws against hiring any of
1:10:30
them and if you got busted hiring somebody was a migrant
1:10:33
not even talking about children. You would find it heavily but
1:10:39
now it's not only illegal migrants is illegal migrant
1:10:44
underage children working at these companies making the
1:10:48
country sound like I hellhole Why would criticize China.
1:10:51
Adam Curry: Hey, guess what? Maybe it is a hellhole. We got
1:10:56
children working at Ford, screwing on hubcaps, or whatever
1:11:00
it is, or chemicals to clean, horrible.
1:11:03
John C Dvorak: They're giving them the worst kind of jobs that
1:11:05
hubcap Joe would be plus,
1:11:08
Adam Curry: I mean, I need some evidence of this.
1:11:11
John C Dvorak: Well, the New York Times covers it with a lot
1:11:13
of evidence. And yet I note one more thing, as based on my
1:11:17
thesis that they're out to get Biden in, they're gonna get him
1:11:19
before the end of this year, probably. Yeah, they must. This
1:11:22
is the new york times this is a democratic spokesperson for all
1:11:28
practical purposes. They are they cover for the Democrats.
1:11:33
And we're getting this kind of reporting. This is the last of
1:11:35
these clips.
1:11:36
Unknown: Well, they did put it together sufficiently to force
1:11:38
out five health and human service staff members because
1:11:42
you talk about those some of those staff members and the
1:11:45
alarms that they raised, that
1:11:46
these are the people who are reading the unaccompanied minor
1:11:49
program for Health and Human Services. One of the women who I
1:11:53
spoke with Jalen SWOG, she helped build this program. She
1:11:58
started working for the government in 2010. Right when
1:12:02
we first started to see these waves of children coming over,
1:12:05
and she was in charge of this program for years and years, she
1:12:08
was the highest official running the program when Biden took
1:12:11
over. And what she says is she raised alarms, we've seen her
1:12:15
emails where she's saying something catastrophic is going
1:12:17
to happen. I'm pleading with somebody to pay attention. When
1:12:21
her emails went unanswered. She went to Congress, and she talked
1:12:24
to Congress staffers and said, again, I'm really worried about
1:12:27
what's happening here. These children are in danger. And she
1:12:31
was pushed out. She was one of five people who I spoke to who
1:12:36
filed complaints, who showed me their emails where they're
1:12:40
saying, you know, something really wrong is happening here.
1:12:43
And they say that instead of being listened to, they were
1:12:46
demoted.
1:12:51
Adam Curry: Wow, this, you're right. This is and they're going
1:12:54
after Joe from AWS, does it? I mean, how hard is it just to
1:12:57
kill the guy? This seems like a lot of work.
1:13:02
John C Dvorak: Well, this meant you might be a lot of work, but
1:13:04
it seems like to somebody who likes to take, you know, wings
1:13:07
off of flies, it might be more fun.
1:13:10
Adam Curry: Well, they're taking a lot of wings off of a lot of
1:13:12
flies with this. The whole that's the whole Hunter Biden
1:13:16
crime family is going down at this rate.
1:13:18
John C Dvorak: Well, let's take Yeah, the 100 by let's move to
1:13:21
CBS.
1:13:23
Adam Curry: Can I play a quick clip before you do this? Because
1:13:26
it's just a positioning clip. Because sure, I also had the CBS
1:13:29
clip, you do a mall. That's great. But this was on Hannity,
1:13:34
just to give you an idea of how phony, the so called news is,
1:13:39
from all sides, they have no shame. They're talking about the
1:13:43
Biden crime family. Now listen to this guy and wait for the
1:13:47
slogan is,
1:13:48
Unknown: do you believe the President of the United States
1:13:51
is compromised by these countries that we know hate our
1:13:54
guts?
1:13:56
I'll answer the second question. I don't see how Joe Biden could
1:13:59
not be compromised. I mean, this these family members aren't
1:14:03
energy experts. They weren't on boards, at least with Burisma
1:14:07
Hunter actually sat on a board. There are no other boards that
1:14:11
we can find that these family members said Oh, and certainly
1:14:14
not the grandchildren and the nieces and the nephews and the
1:14:17
in laws and things like that. So what were they doing? Why were
1:14:22
they getting this much money? It all points back to Joe Biden and
1:14:25
we're gonna continue until we get the truth to the American
1:14:28
people but I can say they shot the walls are closing in on the
1:14:32
Biden
1:14:38
Adam Curry: how many times we heard that about Trump? It's a
1:14:40
tipping point the walls are closing is FoxNews seriously
1:14:44
going to use all these tropes now against Joe Biden? The all
1:14:48
of its unwatchable.
1:14:50
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's most of Fox is unwatchable. All right.
1:14:54
Let's go to CBS. And they got another whole different scandal.
1:14:59
It's centers around 100 by a little bit, but it's more to it
1:15:02
than that. And when you start when they do where they do it
1:15:05
they're not quite as blunt force trauma as democracy now, but
1:15:09
it's not bad. This is Hunter one.
1:15:12
Unknown: Tonight there is breaking news in the federal
1:15:14
criminal investigation into Hunter Biden's tax returns. An
1:15:17
attorney for an IRS supervisor sent a letter to lawmakers today
1:15:21
asking for whistleblower protection, saying his client
1:15:25
has information that suggests the investigation is being
1:15:28
improperly influenced by quote preferential treatment and
1:15:32
politics. Here's CBS News Chief investigative correspondent Jim
1:15:37
Axelrod.
1:15:37
My client wants to come forward to Congress. He's ready to be
1:15:41
questioned about what he knows and what he experienced under
1:15:44
the proper legal protections.
1:15:46
attorney Mark ladles client is a supervisory special agent at the
1:15:50
IRS who's prepared to tell Congress the investigation he's
1:15:54
been working on has been hampered by what he thinks is
1:15:57
special treatment.
1:15:58
Typical steps that a law enforcement investigator would
1:16:02
take were compromised because of political considerations.
1:16:06
Lytle wouldn't talk in specifics declining to identify either his
1:16:10
client or the target of the investigation his client helped
1:16:14
conduct. Can you identify him?
1:16:16
I can't at this stage, Jim.
1:16:18
But CBS News has learned the investigation the whistleblower
1:16:21
worked on is about Hunter Biden,
1:16:24
what we're doing is is being completely cooperative.
1:16:27
That was Biden two years ago, after the DOJ opened an
1:16:31
investigation into his finances. The FBI collected what it
1:16:35
believed was sufficient evidence to charge Biden with tax crimes.
1:16:39
And last year sent its findings to the US Attorney in Delaware
1:16:43
since then, silence. Yeah.
1:16:52
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. So typically, whistleblowers don't
1:16:56
get lawyers. i That's the one thing I'd mentioned. And, you
1:16:59
know, this lawyer keeps saying, Well, you know, there's a
1:17:02
certain protections in place, but it mean, you're a
1:17:05
whistleblower than used you. There's a there's a process you
1:17:09
go through? Doesn't seem like they're going through the
1:17:11
process, but they are, in fact, dangling this out there.
1:17:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, could be I mean, I, as far as I'm
1:17:17
concerned, none of this is anything other than the kind of
1:17:20
a concerted effort from different fronts to get Joe
1:17:23
Biden out of office because he considers he thinks he's going
1:17:28
to run again. And they he's got to go. And so all this all these
1:17:34
little nuances, like you just described, I don't think are as
1:17:38
important to the whole overall view of things as do you think
1:17:43
might normally be the case? Well,
1:17:44
Adam Curry: this is more than just he's gotta go. This is
1:17:46
taking down the entire family. I'm gonna take down Jill, I
1:17:50
mean, it's gonna be it's gonna be maybe his Susan Rice is Susan
1:17:54
Rice. I mean, this is a real well, it's
1:17:56
John C Dvorak: in part two, we got one more character mentioned
1:17:59
that's going to end up getting hit in the ringer.
1:18:02
Unknown: Why can't your client talk
1:18:04
to us directly at this point, there are laws that provide
1:18:07
protection to whistleblowers, and he has to navigate that
1:18:11
today Lytle sent this letter to Congress, claiming his client
1:18:14
could provide information that would contradict sworn testimony
1:18:19
by a senior political appointee.
1:18:21
I have promised to ensure that he's able to carry out his
1:18:24
investigation.
1:18:25
CBS News has learned that was attorney general Merrick
1:18:29
Garland, who gave testimony about the US Attorney in
1:18:32
Delaware, conducting the Hunter Biden investigation.
1:18:36
Adam Curry: Now, can we be sure that this is the Democrat party?
1:18:39
This may be some other group
1:18:42
John C Dvorak: that yes, we can. Okay. We can absolutely be sure
1:18:45
we're talking about CBS. Yes. And we're talking about
1:18:49
democracy now. This is all fronts for the Democrat party.
1:18:51
This is the Democrat Party doing this. Well, CBS there's no doubt
1:18:55
in my mind by me. It could be the CIA, but they're the
1:18:58
Democrat Party nowadays. I
1:18:59
Adam Curry: agree. I agree.
1:19:02
John C Dvorak: So there's no doubt about this is not any the
1:19:04
Republicans aren't this. They can't do this. I mean, yeah, get
1:19:08
handed there. You played the Hannity clip. That's, that's the
1:19:11
best
1:19:12
Adam Curry: we can do. That's the level they got. The walls
1:19:15
are closing in.
1:19:17
John C Dvorak: They can't even read they got old memes. They
1:19:18
can't even come up with something new.
1:19:20
Adam Curry: But what's cool about it is that they literally
1:19:22
the AMI took Josh Hawley so they're using the Republicans in
1:19:27
this case.
1:19:28
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you can use Josh Hawley. He's a loudmouth.
1:19:31
He's got good things to say. He's a kind of guy you can use
1:19:34
to get the soundbite. You can probably get some few other
1:19:37
guys. I mean, if you're going after the Pfizer you get as much
1:19:40
Rand Paul material as you could. This
1:19:43
Adam Curry: has, you know what this? The Susan Rice thing has
1:19:46
me bothered and I'm gonna go out on the limb. This is Obama.
1:19:51
Obama is saying get rid of her too. And the reason
1:19:58
John C Dvorak: he was in love with Susan Raise Obama bull
1:20:01
Adam Curry: crap. No, she wrote that memo. Remember she had the
1:20:04
memo to herself or see why it was a memo on
1:20:06
John C Dvorak: purpose by Obama probably advise her to do it.
1:20:10
Adam Curry: And he's getting rid of her because of Michelle
1:20:13
running. I feel it. Michelle Obama is gonna Well, now
1:20:16
John C Dvorak: you've gotten off the deep end. Clip three.
1:20:19
Unknown: Lytle says neither he nor his client are motivated by
1:20:23
politics. Would you find any evidence or allegation of a
1:20:28
political agenda?
1:20:30
No. To him, the truth is one truth. And he wants to come
1:20:34
forward with it
1:20:35
later on, told us the whistleblower has been with the
1:20:38
IRS for more than a decade, and has extensive documentation to
1:20:43
support his allegations,
1:20:44
the things he's been through are very well documented in emails
1:20:49
and other communications with the Department of Justice.
1:20:53
We asked Mark Lytle, if there's a chance his client can only see
1:20:56
his slice of the investigation and not the big picture. He said
1:21:00
that's possible, but that his client had expressed his
1:21:03
concerns to superiors a number of times before seeking
1:21:07
whistleblower status. Neither the IRS Department of Justice or
1:21:11
a lawyer for Hunter Biden would come at it.
1:21:15
Adam Curry: I'm putting it in the book. I'm putting it in the
1:21:17
book. This is clean up making room because who else? Yeah,
1:21:21
they may put Kamala in brief no cameras in she's the one Yeah,
1:21:25
for a bit until until 2024. But it's just temporary.
1:21:29
John C Dvorak: But no, she's going to be when she's gonna be
1:21:31
the president, and then she's gonna run for reelection. It
1:21:34
accomplishes a lot of things for one accomplished geek just
1:21:37
getting rid of the notion that, that Michelle would run it all,
1:21:41
but I think is more to stop Gavin Newsom in his tracks at
1:21:46
all and his chances of being president and I think it's going
1:21:51
to end the day I honestly believe the Democrats is the
1:21:54
more you watch this, if you don't listen to the other side,
1:21:57
which we do both so we you know, we see Kamla as a buffoon, but
1:22:02
the Democrats don't see it that way. They see her as a smart,
1:22:05
intelligent black woman now.
1:22:07
Unknown: Wow, okay. You're gonna
1:22:11
John C Dvorak: talk to people on the street. And then And then
1:22:16
Adam Curry: she's gonna show you we're talking to people on the
1:22:19
street.
1:22:21
John C Dvorak: So Jennifer Hudson, is going to make her
1:22:24
look good. And it's going to be later one of the tests are there
1:22:27
grooming her?
1:22:27
Adam Curry: Yes, they are. I agree. But it's only getting
1:22:30
everybody ready for Michelle. You can Laugh all you want. Put
1:22:33
it in the book. I'm putting it into the book. I'm putting it in
1:22:36
the book. I
1:22:36
John C Dvorak: don't even putting it in the book is so
1:22:38
ludicrous. Okay,
1:22:39
Adam Curry: you will eat them words.
1:22:41
Unknown: So i Whoa, yes, you will be
1:22:44
Adam Curry: crunching on those words.
1:22:47
John C Dvorak: Especially while we're at it. Since we're talking
1:22:49
about this sort of thing. Let's go. Well, let me play another
1:22:51
candidate. Let
1:22:52
Adam Curry: me play this. And then you can play the I have the
1:22:54
announcement that I want to play a piece of, okay,
1:22:57
John C Dvorak: well, we're gonna go to bar f, J, G. Or RFK, Jr.
1:23:02
or F GK or f k,
1:23:04
Adam Curry: who I met once I met him in context of climate
1:23:08
change. Funny enough, when, when we were all with Kleiner Perkins
1:23:12
had their Green Fund and we're all at the golf course he was
1:23:14
there. Yeah. Why was that golf course the famous one Pebble
1:23:17
Beach, Pebble Beach, Pebble Beach. Well, there's a lot of
1:23:21
sadness. California is not the one in California.
1:23:24
John C Dvorak: It could have been the Olympic club.
1:23:28
Adam Curry: Is Pebble Beach in California.
1:23:29
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. And Pebble Beach is Pebble Beach.
1:23:31
And that's there's three core that's the watch. And
1:23:33
Adam Curry: we had an away with all all the founders of the
1:23:36
companies. And they embarrass me by forcing me to play which of
1:23:39
course, was horrible. But then Robert Kennedy, Jr. was there
1:23:43
with his wife. And his reason for there was, you know, we're
1:23:49
still Special Olympics, what he was doing as his mom, but it has
1:23:52
something to do with a gore and gore. Gore's movie was played
1:23:56
then for the first time before it was in theaters. And I spoke
1:23:59
to him he's a really nice guy, but, but really meek and quiet.
1:24:03
Actually, I didn't know much about him at the time. So he
1:24:07
announced that he is running for president. And he did a fun
1:24:10
thing in this announcement. Now he talked about misinformation
1:24:14
disinformation, how it's all bull crap.
1:24:17
John C Dvorak: Where did you get this clip? Because most people
1:24:19
most mainstream wouldn't play it.
1:24:21
Adam Curry: No, I've got it from the announcement video. I found
1:24:24
the video and I clipped a piece from it. And I thought it was
1:24:28
interesting what he said because he literally compared himself to
1:24:32
his dad, when his dad ran for office,
1:24:36
Unknown: my father 55 years ago last month, as a 14 year old
1:24:41
boy. Hi, my father as he knows the caucus room in Washington
1:24:47
DC. His campaign for presidency of the United States. My father
1:24:53
at that time was in many ways in the same position that I'm in
1:24:57
today. He was running again. As a president of his own party, he
1:25:03
was running against a war he was running against. He was running
1:25:07
at a time unprecedented polarization in our country. He
1:25:13
had no chance of winning. My father when he declared had not
1:25:18
a single molecule in him that he believed that he could win the
1:25:22
Democratic nomination. Why is that? He'd run his brother's
1:25:26
campaign at night to him 60 years before. But now, all the
1:25:32
unions were against him with two exceptions, the United Auto
1:25:35
Workers and Cesar Chavez United Farmworkers. The liberal press
1:25:42
was 100% against the New York Times, is it the Village Voice,
1:25:46
labor union, the big city mayors were against them, including
1:25:50
Mayor Daley, who had played a critical role in President
1:25:52
Kennedy's nomination. All the people in the new frontier, were
1:26:00
his closest friends are now working for the Johnson White
1:26:04
House. So they were against him. The only people that he had with
1:26:09
him, even the universities were against him, because they were
1:26:12
with McCarthy's group of Hollywood like Joanne Woodward,
1:26:16
Paul Newman, who had been very close to him very worked very
1:26:19
hard for my uncle and 60. We're now working from a party. My
1:26:26
father and the universities. My father, my father used to say
1:26:30
that he McCarthy had all the A's students and he had the BMC
1:26:34
students. And so the only people he had were people, poor white
1:26:42
people in rural areas, like Appalachia, poor blacks, and in
1:26:47
the Delta and our cities and Watson Harlem and the East LA,
1:26:54
and Indians on the Indian reservations. And that was kind
1:26:58
of hopelessness in his campaign. Freedom to tell the truth to the
1:27:05
American people.
1:27:06
Adam Curry: Yeah. Which is about the only thing he'll achieve is
1:27:09
to be able to tell the truth to the American people, but no one
1:27:12
will hear it.
1:27:13
John C Dvorak: No, no, no, this your watch Tucker, and I hate
1:27:17
the
1:27:17
Adam Curry: comparisons he's making, because we know it
1:27:19
didn't end well. The Kennedys. I mean, to have a bad record.
1:27:24
John C Dvorak: Well, first of all, that's my era when I was a
1:27:27
Democrat. Good. Tell us about your life. Very familiar with
1:27:31
what happened. Okay. Tell us a day Ward Democrats were on
1:27:35
board. Big time was Eugene McCarthy. He was the guy
1:27:41
Everyone wanted a win. Candidate Kennedy came in and every bite
1:27:45
the reason that he was it wasn't because of whatever thing or if
1:27:49
J or J. K Jr. RFK Jr. thinks, oh, it was because Oh, Kennedy's
1:28:00
just, he's just trying because he's a bigger name than
1:28:03
McCarthy. He's trying to steal his thunder Stolen Valor. So he
1:28:09
was just he was disliked for that reason, because McCarthy
1:28:12
was the guy everybody wanted, he was a super peacenik. And so the
1:28:18
fact was, is that the Democrat Party wasn't gonna put him in
1:28:21
either and, and I think everyone kind of knew that Kennedy would
1:28:24
have gotten a nomination, because nobody wanted George
1:28:28
McGovern, who finally got the nomination out of that he was a
1:28:31
bonehead. So this is visited interpretation and my
1:28:38
recollection as a staunch Democrat at the time was
1:28:45
different. And yeah, it didn't end well.
1:28:49
Adam Curry: I have to say I, I like everything. Kennedy says,
1:28:52
I'm not watched his announcement. I like it all.
1:28:56
Pretty much. I don't think there's I don't think I've heard
1:28:58
anything I disagree with and I like it, too. I would vote for
1:29:02
him. I think he's a real threat. I think he's a real threat to
1:29:04
Michelle Obama.
1:29:07
John C Dvorak: You can leave that on.
1:29:08
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no, I
1:29:11
John C Dvorak: wrote it in every time we bring up any topic.
1:29:14
Adam Curry: We're still on the same topic. We're on the same
1:29:16
topic. It's more than valid for me to say this. Just because you
1:29:20
don't agree doesn't mean you can dismiss it.
1:29:23
John C Dvorak: No, if I don't agree I can dismiss I can
1:29:25
dismiss anything I want. Okay, well, okay, then I can say any
1:29:29
the it's like it's a foregone conclusion. You've already
1:29:32
pointed out that he can't get any ink he's got on Tucker which
1:29:37
is like that's no good. Well, what
1:29:39
Adam Curry: if he What if he got some Democrats and and a whole
1:29:42
bunch of Republicans?
1:29:45
John C Dvorak: He's getting nobody. Let's be honest about
1:29:49
it.
1:29:51
Adam Curry: Okay, I guess you're getting no but let's
1:29:54
John C Dvorak: go to NPR. And this is just the beginning. NPR
1:29:57
is like the flack you're what is it called a shocked Troops
1:30:01
Adam Curry: stormed troops as this
1:30:02
John C Dvorak: shock troops are coming in. And this guard RFK
1:30:06
Jr. NPR smear
1:30:09
Unknown: a familiar name has entered the 2024 presidential
1:30:12
race to challenge President Biden for the Democratic
1:30:14
nomination. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. He made his formal
1:30:18
announcement earlier today in Boston.
1:30:21
My mission over the next 18 months of this campaign, and
1:30:26
over my throughout my presidency, will be to end the
1:30:30
corrupt merger of state and corporate power.
1:30:36
Now, Kennedy isn't just a member of one of America's most famous
1:30:39
political dynasties. He's also an anti vaccine activist who's
1:30:44
been criticized by his own family and peers. Shannon bond
1:30:47
joins us now to explain more. Hey, Shannon. Hey, Elsa. So
1:30:51
okay, a lot of people of course know the Kennedy name. But can
1:30:53
you remind us who exactly is Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
1:30:57
Sure. He's the nephew of President John F. Kennedy and
1:31:00
son of Bobby Kennedy. And Robert Kennedy, Jr. is a lawyer who was
1:31:03
originally probably best known as an environmental activist.
1:31:07
But as you said, he's not only become a central figure in the
1:31:10
anti vaccination movement, but he's also promoted other
1:31:13
conspiracy theories, like her baseless idea that 5g telecom
1:31:18
networks are being used to control people's behavior. Wow.
1:31:21
Adam Curry: Oh, do we have do we have proof of this?
1:31:27
John C Dvorak: But I mean, I conspiracy net. Wow. Yeah. Wow.
1:31:31
Adam Curry: Anti vaccine nut? Yeah, that's right. No, in fact,
1:31:35
the truth is that he was as he was an environmental lawyer, and
1:31:39
he sued organizations that were putting mercury into our
1:31:43
national waterways, chemical mainly from factories, etc. And
1:31:48
it was getting into the fish supply. And so he was suing
1:31:51
people over that. And as he tells it himself, he kept seeing
1:31:53
these women show up at all of his events. And they were
1:31:56
saying, hey, our children are being hurt by mercury in the
1:32:00
vaccines, namely in thigh Marisol, and other such
1:32:03
adjuvants. And that was
1:32:05
John C Dvorak: that actually that's that that's not an
1:32:07
adjuvant? So I'm sorry, Marisol is a preservative preservative,
1:32:11
Adam Curry: okay. But mercury in the vaccines and he went
1:32:15
John C Dvorak: into the Marisol is mercury,
1:32:18
Adam Curry: though. There you go. It is mercury. So, and they
1:32:22
were using that. And he went after those corporations as a
1:32:26
far cry. In fact, he is explicitly not anti vaccine. He
1:32:30
was anti COVID. vaccine. Yes. Because he and he showed us a he
1:32:36
read, he read the documents. He showed it to us. And he said,
1:32:40
This is why it's bullcrap. And this is why they want it on the
1:32:42
children's schedule.
1:32:45
John C Dvorak: I don't know why you're so much against NPR. I'm
1:32:50
sorry. Let's continue this smear
1:32:52
Adam Curry: on national treasure. What am I thinking?
1:32:54
Part Two?
1:32:55
Unknown: Wow. Okay, how did Kennedy wind up as a leader in
1:32:58
the anti Vax movement?
1:33:01
Well, he said he is not opposed to vaccines, he frames his
1:33:04
criticisms as being about safety. You know, in his speech
1:33:08
today, he didn't address vaccines directly, but he did
1:33:11
raise concerns about chronic illnesses, autism, quote,
1:33:15
poisoning our children. And these are all references to
1:33:18
these debunked and false and misleading claims that he has
1:33:21
promoted for years that undermine trust in vaccines.
1:33:25
During most recently, during the COVID pandemic, he opposed
1:33:28
vaccine mandates and other public health measures. He
1:33:31
promoted unproven treatments such as ivermectin, you know,
1:33:34
and that did result in some of his social media accounts being
1:33:37
taken down for spreading false health claims. He says that
1:33:40
censorship, but the pandemic also did a lot to raise his
1:33:44
profile. And so we're in this sort of strange place now where
1:33:47
Kennedy is this figure this with this iconic democratic name, but
1:33:51
he's also now being embraced by many on the political right, who
1:33:54
have adopted anti Vax views.
1:33:56
Right, but he is running as a Democrat, President Biden's
1:34:00
approval rating with Democrats. I mean, it's pretty strong right
1:34:03
now polls find that Democrats are willing to get vaccinated
1:34:06
than are Republicans. So what is the rationale for Kennedy here?
1:34:10
Because this sounds kind of like a long shot, right?
1:34:14
Adam Curry: Oh, there's so elitist. And what's the ration
1:34:17
now? I mean, why would you even bother? I mean, it's a long
1:34:20
shot. I mean, why even waste your time? Becky?
1:34:27
John C Dvorak: So they also have destructure, that whole little
1:34:31
part of that report where they go, everything he says has been
1:34:34
debunked, it's false. It's a bet. You know, they get to one
1:34:37
thing after this, they just can't they just can't say, you
1:34:40
know, it's questionable. Oh, no, no, no, it's not proven.
1:34:45
Adam Curry: These are new models. These are news models
1:34:47
with the perfect face for radio. That's why they're on it.
1:34:50
John C Dvorak: To get the voice they do. Yes. All right. Let's
1:34:53
go to this. Hello. Hi, how are you? Hi, John. How are ya? Part
1:34:58
three of the smear
1:35:00
Unknown: Yeah, and even for a long time also vaccine opponent
1:35:02
opponents weren't particularly aligned with one political
1:35:04
party. Here's how and that Meeks, who's a lifelong
1:35:07
Republican who runs the Freedom Foundation of Minnesota, a
1:35:11
conservative think tank. Here's how she put it.
1:35:13
In the early days. It really is kind of where the crunchy
1:35:17
granola left meets the far right.
1:35:19
But that started to change even before COVID You saw vaccine
1:35:22
opponents begin to rally under the banner of what they called
1:35:25
Liberty or freedom. That seems to have really resonated with
1:35:28
conservatives. And then when COVID came along, resistance of
1:35:32
vaccines became linked with resistance to other things like
1:35:34
closing schools wearing masks. Everything was filtered through
1:35:37
this partisan divide. And in fact, Kennedy does have some
1:35:40
surprising sources of support. Donald Trump's former adviser
1:35:43
election denier Steve Bannon has publicly suggested Kennedy
1:35:46
should enter the Republican primary and the conspiracy
1:35:49
theorist and Trump ally Roger Stone has his own suggestion
1:35:52
that Trump should pick Kennedy as his running mate. Ah, man,
1:35:59
Adam Curry: there you go. That's the ticket is the Trump Kennedy
1:36:03
ticket. Oh man, oh, man. Well, there you go. At least we're
1:36:10
wasting everybody's time with this drivel bits a smear. It's a
1:36:14
smear and it's also we got a way to go before it's time for the
1:36:17
2024 election. And we're all being just just noodle noodle
1:36:24
tea keyed up, teed up and spun up over this stuff. Oh, it's not
1:36:30
important people. It's not important. Go to your local
1:36:33
school board election meeting go to your local council meeting
1:36:37
and that's where it's important this is dumb it's a distraction
1:36:40
is not important. And but it will be fun to watch Joe get
1:36:43
taken down but that's our job. So you can just continue focus
1:36:46
on your local community. Please. And I have a trans a series of
1:36:54
trans Maoist clips which are excited to share with you but we
1:36:58
will do that right after I say in the morning to you and thank
1:37:01
you for your courage the man who put the sea in clusters of
1:37:04
children ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the
1:37:06
other end Mr. John Cena
1:37:11
John C Dvorak: well in the morning to you Mr. Adam curry
1:37:13
awesome in the morning all ships at sea. Feet near subs
1:37:18
underwater games and nights out there
1:37:20
Adam Curry: and to boots on the ground and of course in the
1:37:21
morning to the trolls and the troll room Hello. Looking like
1:37:27
right now? No, I got I got no I got no no juice. Not come I
1:37:32
don't see anything. Oh, maybe I was kicked off somehow. Somebody
1:37:37
do the count. Well, no, when I There we go. 1862. There we go.
1:37:45
1862. For today. How's that for Thursday? Is that low?
1:37:52
John C Dvorak: No, it's about for recently it's about right.
1:37:56
It's not low for Thursday's it would be we'd normally 1750
1:38:00
would be the median.
1:38:02
Adam Curry: No. Okay, well, I'm happy then trolls. Thank you
1:38:05
very much for being here. But a lot of disagreement from the
1:38:07
Trolls. That's bullcrap. Hypersonic is above five could
1:38:11
be hypersonic supersonic. very testy. I think a lot of these
1:38:16
trolls are nerds. I say that with love. Who were very upset
1:38:21
about SpaceX launch I think that they're upset oh my god man who
1:38:25
was watching Oh,
1:38:25
John C Dvorak: they're not nobody cares. Exactly. I think
1:38:28
most people are excited when a missile blows up.
1:38:30
Adam Curry: I think that's why they watch Okay, man,
1:38:32
John C Dvorak: I wish they would have blowed up on the right
1:38:36
Adam Curry: on the pad but that would not be the MO The Mo is to
1:38:38
blow up above the pad. So we can get more more on the on the pad.
1:38:42
Yes, indeed. The trolls are in the troll room you can join them
1:38:45
a troll room.io Or you can get a modern podcast app. This is very
1:38:49
important because any if you're seeing your favorite podcast
1:38:53
disappearing, which is happening in alarming rate, particularly
1:38:56
off of Spotify, but also of others like Apple for the
1:39:00
craziest reasons, you know, like but Kennedy Jr ha.
1:39:04
John C Dvorak: Oh, nothing. I'm just trying to get this web
1:39:07
browser to work and mumbling at it.
1:39:09
Adam Curry: Oh, you're Bravo.
1:39:11
John C Dvorak: My bravo bravo browser if she keeps playing me
1:39:15
movies, what the hell's wrong with his browser?
1:39:19
Adam Curry: Go to podcast apps.com and get one of these
1:39:23
modern podcast apps with all the cool new features 20 of them and
1:39:27
you're and you can import your subscriptions from your old
1:39:29
podcast app, not a problem. Run them side by side for a bit. See
1:39:32
which one you like. Let me know. Of course we like podcast
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addict, podcast guru podcast pod verse, And curio caster because
1:39:40
they bring you the live stream right there with the chat room,
1:39:43
the troll room. It's beautiful stuff. It's brand new. It's
1:39:46
podcast. apps.com. We also have no agenda social.com where
1:39:53
people like to tag Adam and John in very long threads about stuff
1:39:55
we don't care about and then say you vote no, no, no, we're not
1:39:59
going to do that. You can follow us. Don't tag us in all your
1:40:02
long boring conversations, please. Adam at no agenda
1:40:06
social.com Jhansi Dvorak no agenda social.com. That is a
1:40:09
place where people like to hang out and discuss stuff. And
1:40:12
there's a lot of going on. We have 10,000 slots. I think
1:40:15
they're full. Now you can't join. But you can as I said,
1:40:17
Follow because it's a mastodons part of the fediverse. Would
1:40:22
like to thank the artist for episode. What are you laughing?
1:40:26
John C Dvorak: Sorry, I went to the art because we're going to
1:40:28
discuss the art. Oh, okay. Nice. And there was one a crack me up
1:40:32
sorry, Episode
1:40:33
Adam Curry: 1547, which we titled A Sally a nice, I guess
1:40:39
the old word for Karen, in a way.
1:40:43
John C Dvorak: And actually, specifically as the old it was
1:40:45
the old word for a woman who was a sorority sister.
1:40:49
Adam Curry: Oh, there you go. That's right. Now, we could not
1:40:52
find any art on the existing new Submissions page that we thought
1:40:56
was appropriate or liked enough to choose. So we went into the
1:40:59
archives. And, interestingly, enough, came up with something
1:41:03
we had not used before. I'm not sure exactly why this missed out
1:41:07
when it was submitted back in the day, just because there was
1:41:10
a better piece. It was from capitalist agenda. And this was
1:41:14
the Rubik's cube with mainstream media logos. And, and, and just
1:41:18
looking at it again. What a great piece. Yeah, people really
1:41:24
liked this and I feel good that we were able to, to use this
1:41:29
after and was it this was months ago. I think you submitted this
1:41:31
maybe longer?
1:41:32
John C Dvorak: I think it's I think it was the 1300s
1:41:36
Adam Curry: Okay, that's quite some several months ago. So we
1:41:40
thank you very much capitalist agenda. And oh, yes, I can see.
1:41:45
I mean, the top one top left, from Nico.
1:41:49
John C Dvorak: Oh, no, no, it was an you'll see it. Okay, so
1:41:54
that is that's good. But just a better one. Yes. Notice there's
1:42:00
Adam Curry: already the artists are having a good time letting
1:42:02
letting us know that they are all in on on submissions for
1:42:06
today's show. And as I said, you know, we had a mike Riley piece,
1:42:11
lick the world, which you didn't like because you didn't like you
1:42:13
don't like a tongue licking anything, I guess is what you
1:42:15
didn't like, what was the problem? We
1:42:16
John C Dvorak: love one thing, it reminds you the Rolling
1:42:18
Stones logo. It doesn't. So it's derivative. So I don't like
1:42:23
that. And then I just thought it was a kind of a, it wasn't? I
1:42:27
don't know, it just didn't have any real life to it. I mean, I
1:42:30
saw the data piece. I mean, it was another one I thought was
1:42:34
nice. But I didn't have any. The Turing test was scary. But we're
1:42:38
Scaramanga with the robot.
1:42:41
Adam Curry: It looked like that cartoon series.
1:42:44
John C Dvorak: And it just it was it didn't have any life. It
1:42:46
didn't have any zip had there was another one that had too
1:42:49
many
1:42:49
Adam Curry: boob jokes in there. But that wasn't enough. Bucha
1:42:52
jokes are fabulous. I
1:42:53
John C Dvorak: have to give him credit for that. Great.
1:42:56
Adam Curry: We have a corner of the internet, also a capitalist
1:42:58
agenda, which just did not. I mean, didn't it just didn't make
1:43:03
it. You know? It wasn't quite there. What else do we have?
1:43:06
That was about it, I think
1:43:08
John C Dvorak: wasn't anything but of testosterone
1:43:11
Adam Curry: that jokes which weren't really funny.
1:43:14
John C Dvorak: Because there wasn't that many submissions. I
1:43:15
think the show didn't have the kind of material that did that.
1:43:20
Calls
1:43:21
Adam Curry: for art. Yes. In fact, that's exactly what you
1:43:23
said. At the time. You said it, I don't think it has. I just
1:43:28
don't think it has it. We just didn't have the topics that made
1:43:32
it work for everybody. And still we have artists pulling stuff
1:43:36
out of their butts doing their best and I think probably
1:43:39
because we were looking at a capitalist agenda on the tongue.
1:43:42
That's probably how you came. No, that was Mike Riley, on the
1:43:46
corner of the internet with the Mole. That's probably how we got
1:43:49
to it. Anyway, no, well, how did you get to it then?
1:43:53
John C Dvorak: I saw capitalist agenda thing I know for a fact
1:43:56
that capitalist capitalist agenda along with correct a
1:43:59
record and a number of other people have like 10 or 12 pages
1:44:04
of backed up art. Because they submitted so much over the last
1:44:08
few years that I did have to be a piece in there because I've
1:44:11
actually gone to the well at capitalist agendas page did this
1:44:15
specific page for some artwork for the newsletter and so I
1:44:20
figured out it's gotta be something here and so I click
1:44:21
click clicked and find was pretty deep in there was like,
1:44:25
page four or five, something like that.
1:44:27
Adam Curry: A beautiful piece capitalist agenda. Thank you so
1:44:29
much. We appreciate the work you do. And then No, of course, the
1:44:31
work that all the artists do. It just wasn't there this time. And
1:44:35
that's, you know, this type of criticism and being very
1:44:38
discerning as as art directors. This is what gets people like
1:44:42
Roger roundy high paying jobs, you know, which
1:44:44
John C Dvorak: Yeah, and it also gets him to quit doing anything
1:44:46
for us.
1:44:49
Adam Curry: That's not true. That's true. So
1:44:52
John C Dvorak: typical is typical. As far as flex those
1:44:54
guys is really the way it goes.
1:44:56
Adam Curry: It's all part of our value for value system. This is
1:44:59
what we run on, you know, I hear these reports of Oh, yeah. Oh,
1:45:04
this this podcast is number one on the charts. It has 2 million
1:45:08
downloads a month, I think, Wow. You know, we have a lot more
1:45:12
than that. But we'd have to be doing meetings and playing ads
1:45:17
and wouldn't be able to talk about all the things we, we'd
1:45:19
like to talk about because it might be a conflict, or we'd
1:45:22
have to be careful, you know, Oh, can we talk about a vaccine
1:45:25
to even talk about Joe Biden without getting pulled, and
1:45:30
people go after us and attack us and try to get rid of our ads.
1:45:33
So for over working on 16 years, we have not done that we've
1:45:37
always relied on you the listening public, which we call
1:45:42
producers for very specific reasons. You help us with your
1:45:44
time, your talent, and your treasure. And we like to
1:45:48
highlight our executive and Associate Executive producers as
1:45:51
quickly in the show as possible, just like Hollywood. And before
1:45:54
we get to the first one on the spreadsheet. I have a internet
1:45:59
donation which was handed to me in Czech form. And this is from
1:46:05
Mike Schweitzer. And Mike is the guitar player for the band mercy
1:46:10
knee which Tina and I went to see after the show on Sunday, if
1:46:13
you remember went down to San Antonio. We went to went to see
1:46:17
them and
1:46:17
John C Dvorak: it's funny every time you say that. I always
1:46:19
think of San Antonio as above you but it's always down below.
1:46:23
It's down
1:46:24
Adam Curry: below. So they said hey, you know the band is big.
1:46:29
The big no agenda fans and I'm like, Okay, we'll see how big a
1:46:31
fan they are. First of all turns out you remember Barry on the
1:46:34
last show donated $500 Barry Grol Yeah, well, he's also in
1:46:39
the band and he wanted to donate before anyone else and but he
1:46:43
didn't have a note. So we gave him a double up Carlos didn't
1:46:46
notice. Yeah, that was Barry is exactly. So he put that in and
1:46:51
then we roll up backstage very, very swanky. And you know,
1:46:55
there's the buses. And then Mike he's a guitar player comes out
1:47:00
and he's got a curry Devorah Consulting Group t shirt on
1:47:04
which is doesn't exist. I mean, the group exists but the t shirt
1:47:07
doesn't exist. He's he's had his their merch guys make this up.
1:47:14
And he played the whole concert with
1:47:16
John C Dvorak: it. That's got to be pretty baffling.
1:47:19
Adam Curry: baffling to the audience. I think.
1:47:21
John C Dvorak: That's what that's what I meant baffling to
1:47:23
the audience. Yeah, so he did
1:47:25
Adam Curry: give us one each. So yours will be forthcoming. And
1:47:29
he gave us a check for $1,033 and a note. Thanks so much for
1:47:34
the greatest podcast in the universe. You guys are like the
1:47:36
media methadone. No way could I have ever detox from my
1:47:39
addiction to the news without your help? I was hitting them
1:47:42
out a little over a year ago with one of my closest friends
1:47:44
and bandmates Nathan. That's Nathan Cochran of Franklin's up
1:47:48
Nathan is the bass player, Franklin, Tennessee. Haven't
1:47:51
missed an episode since since and I'm always waiting with
1:47:54
anticipation to see what John will be putting the C in next.
1:47:58
Enclosing donation. Nathan donation No it's a Nathan mouth
1:48:02
hit donation. It's a mic donation. And closes my long
1:48:06
overdue first donation of 1033. Which I believe officially D
1:48:09
deuces and knights meet well we will officially do you do?
1:48:14
You've been de Deus. I would like to request the title sir.
1:48:17
Shmoo of the six strings. Sorry for the savage SLIS fest. Yes,
1:48:22
thank you. And we'd love Weller and ribeye at the roundtable I'd
1:48:25
like to add a big thanks to Adam for allowing us all a front row
1:48:28
seat to his family's faith journey greatly encourages my
1:48:30
own face seeing God's work in the lives of others. No jingles,
1:48:34
no karma, just Jide to be in the end a family. And it was a great
1:48:39
show. It was a very impressive show. I'd say like 3000 people
1:48:43
in the like the Boeing something because you own the list. I put
1:48:49
them on the list. Yes, of course. I put them on the list.
1:48:52
And then I have one. Wait, no, that comes after. I'll do this
1:48:56
one. And then I have one more from the meetup and thank you
1:48:59
again guys. You've heard very, very kind and gracious was a lot
1:49:02
of fun seeing the Mercy Me concert. David Alcott is an
1:49:07
Eaton Eaton town, New Jersey, and comes in with $1,000
1:49:13
Greetings from Central Jersey. I want to thank my friend Dave
1:49:15
LaConte for hitting me in the mouth many years ago, please
1:49:18
provide me with a dee doo dee doo. And he says Please cut it
1:49:24
off before that awful 80s Nintendo synth riff. So I did
1:49:27
that. Thanks for your courage, she says. Then I have a donation
1:49:30
that was handed to us in person at the Nashville meetup by
1:49:35
Darrell DeVille. And we actually have a picture of this to
1:49:40
complete his knighthood with $600 because he had donated a
1:49:45
total of 400. Previously, he brought in $600 in $2 bills,
1:49:55
stacks and stacks of $2 bills. Now the question is, I mean I
1:49:59
feel like Uh, you know, he emptied the bank out, I guess
1:50:02
they got all the all of the $2 bills. It's like, it seems like
1:50:06
a shame for me to go and give that back to a bank and then
1:50:10
send a money order. That's really cool. I mean, they're,
1:50:14
they're, you know, the three stacks of 100 in twos. You want
1:50:19
me to send you a stack. It's pretty, it's pretty cool to see
1:50:25
it. I
1:50:25
John C Dvorak: used to get a I used to go to the bank and get
1:50:28
stacks of $2 bills for the farmers market people and people
1:50:33
like that, give them out there and maybe I'll get a kick out of
1:50:35
it. I stopped doing that I matured. And actually what
1:50:39
really stopped me is one time I ordered a stack of another one
1:50:42
of those $200 $200 worth the $20 Bill $2 bills, and I the entire
1:50:49
stack was all cocaine bills. How do you know? Because they had
1:50:55
that funny folding thing where people fold up the drugs. I
1:51:00
would every bill was folded. And so I took it I took the thing
1:51:03
back to the bank I said what are you given me this for the
1:51:06
Federal Reserve selling coke? What's the deal? And I turned
1:51:10
them in a desk the last time I ever got a batch of two's it was
1:51:13
the end of it. So no, I don't want to bash shoes.
1:51:17
Adam Curry: Okay, well, we appreciate it and he will become
1:51:19
Sergey noi Weaver of Dixie alley sir Good boy WEVA of Dixie alley
1:51:26
and we appreciate his support very much onward with the next
1:51:30
donation Yeah,
1:51:31
John C Dvorak: night m f dx of and as you Toronto Ontario comes
1:51:36
in. I don't really have much of a note he's just got way too
1:51:39
many jingles which are not going to do well actually I can do it.
1:51:42
It's just it's just hit it Fauci Wiese Fauci wheeze while I'm
1:51:46
high half second pause. No, no, no. These people I don't I don't
1:51:51
care what you can do it. But we don't want to we're not does not
1:51:56
we're not. This is not like no, it's no good.
1:52:00
Adam Curry: If you just say hit it. I think I can play these for
1:52:02
them.
1:52:02
John C Dvorak: Well, okay. Well, let me start with the thanks for
1:52:04
the excellent product. Gentlemen. The only issue is
1:52:07
starting to show two hours later. Wow. But oh, he's got
1:52:12
just a 420 69 donation. Yeah. Hey, man, I just noticed that
1:52:18
starting How long is it two hour thing been going? I think you're
1:52:25
right. The only thing I've noticed is the show stuck. Let
1:52:28
me read it correctly. The only issue was starting the show two
1:52:32
hours later. is by the time Adam says in the morning, John is
1:52:37
damn near afternoon.
1:52:42
Unknown: Wow, I am really high. Beautiful
1:52:51
Adam Curry: There you go. Wasn't that hard?
1:52:53
John C Dvorak: It was a good give us a good sequence. I'm not
1:52:55
gonna say it wasn't. But it's just shouldn't be discouraged.
1:53:00
Okay,
1:53:00
Adam Curry: cuz now I get to decode this next one. Because
1:53:02
you know, the stoners came out for 420. This is of course, what
1:53:06
Daris unity from Upper Marlboro, Maryland for 2042. So 420 with
1:53:11
the most interesting and important number in the universe
1:53:13
42 as a sense behind it. Peace blessings, Mad Love Gitmo
1:53:18
nation. Thank you for your courage. In the morning who we
1:53:21
who we for 20 Born day night here turning 34 years old, bless
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belated birthday to Mr. Dubourg also. Excuse me. My throat is
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short. I'd like to be known as Sir Daris unity. Sir Darius
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Darius unity I'm sorry, Knight of the sand hill people
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Adam Curry: it is 42 cents because my brand warranties.com
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has 42 as a logo and 3% off with ITM play please place link with
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my name in the show notes. Yes, you got it. Oh, camel has
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biscuits please. So I wonder if Is he on the see on the birthday
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list? I'm gonna have to check and see if it's on the birthday
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list. Camel has biscuit please and all the karma birthday no
1:54:27
agenda meetup currently underway in DC apologies for the late
1:54:30
notice. Stay safe. Peaceful tidings Darius unity. Founder of
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war NTS.
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Unknown: They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. All
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right,
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Adam Curry: brother. No problem we check. Karma.
1:54:44
John C Dvorak: Next President
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Adam Curry: make sure he's make sure he's on the list. Yeah,
1:54:47
he's on the list.
1:54:49
John C Dvorak: Ashley Zaif Minh in Ontario. Sorry, London,
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Ontario, Canada. Happy sixth anniversary on 422. My husband.
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Wait a minute. Ashley. Yeah. To my husband and no agenda night
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sir Bram of Upper Canada Navia love always your smokin hot
1:55:07
wife. Okay, go. Cheers to many more years of no agenda together
1:55:12
with beers, buds and Boston terriers,
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Adam Curry: sir stoner Boehner is from Kent, Washington for 20.
1:55:22
Adam and John sir stoner Boehner here with my annual executive
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Prusa donation to the best podcast in the universe. I can't
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express how much I appreciate being able to listen to you
1:55:30
twice a week. Thank you for the amygdala maintenance and please
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share my karma to all have no agenda nation. Thanks, sir.
1:55:37
Stoner Boehner. You've got karma.
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John C Dvorak: Onwards Mike, the POLYMATH polymath know if he is
1:55:45
a polymath, Indianapolis, Indiana. That means he does
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numbers real good. This is Mike. The polymath I asked for
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official de douching de deuced although I've been donate, I've
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donated many a meetup. I have yet to be fully cleansed I
1:56:05
hereby bequeath. I can see that yeah, yes. Mike Yes, polymath
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he'd likely uses the word bequeath. Yes, I hereby bequeath
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for 19.93 in honor of my day of birth, and the final day of the
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Waco siege at Mark at Mount Carmel. Well, I prefer the
1:56:27
history of April 19 1775. With Paul Revere is right in the shot
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heard around the world, I would be remiss in neglecting your
1:56:33
knowledge. The dark day that occurred 30 years ago as I
1:56:35
emerged into this world a newborn baby. I'm turning 30 On
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Wednesday, and I can think of no better way to celebrate than to
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humbly donate to that greatest podcast in the universe. I asked
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for jobs karma for my business, easy peasy garden solutions.
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Easy peasy garden solutions in Indianapolis, Indiana and for
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podcar around there abouts. And for podcasting karma for the
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easy peasy podcast. I build and maintain a number of veggie
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gardens in the Indiana Indianapolis area. And I discuss
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a variety of topics on my show sometimes with new and
1:57:15
interesting guests. Know jingles bello sharpens respect when hurt
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thanks a million for all you do Mike? The poly poly
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Unknown: ESP ICT jobs,
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jobs, jobs and jobs or jobs.
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Adam Curry: Then we got those crazy indie people the indie na
1:57:39
meetup gotta report later. 335 Switcheroo raffle donation from
1:57:43
the March Indianapolis no agenda meet up for Amy Thurmond. That
1:57:46
means Amy gets the the executive producer ship there. Okay. I've
1:57:53
done the switcheroo. Adam and John my husband sir Craig of the
1:57:56
Dark Moon and I first by the way I met these folks they were they
1:58:01
came to Nashville. They came to the Nashville meetup. And I I'm
1:58:05
sorry.
1:58:06
Unknown: They're everywhere.
1:58:08
Adam Curry: The Indiana people it's pretty insane. They're
1:58:10
everywhere they are my husband sir Craig the Darkmoon and I
1:58:13
attended her first ever no agenda meetup last Sunday. Oh
1:58:15
wait. This is different. The Crossroads of America
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Indianapolis in a tribal meetup and the spirit distillation of
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the mash house at West Fork whiskey in Westfield, Indiana. I
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am honored to be the winner of the donation raffle appreciate
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all who contributed as this puts me on the path to becoming a
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dame. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, the meetup was fantastic.
1:58:36
The Indiana crown is welcoming and fun truly a great
1:58:39
experience. Many thanks to Sir Mark and de Maria for Oregon.
1:58:43
That's who came to Nashville. Sir Mark and de Maria for
1:58:46
organizing and more people came it was it was it was insane how
1:58:48
many people came? No jingles? No current but a deducing you've
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been de deuced you got it.
1:58:59
John C Dvorak: We're with Andrew. Oh, Donahoe. In Smeaton,
1:59:04
Saskatchewan. Good afternoon. This email coincides with my
1:59:12
first donation to the show for 333. Just want to thank you and
1:59:17
John for all that you do. I started listening after hearing
1:59:20
Adam on the Joe Rogan experience just before the pandemic hit. No
1:59:26
agenda immediately became a number one listen as a podcast
1:59:29
it truly is the best podcast in the universe. I should have
1:59:34
donated sooner I know. I'm a super douche. Hoping this
1:59:38
donation helps make amends. Please give me a D douchey.
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You've been D deuced. Sincerely, Andrew O'Donoghue
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Adam Curry: a lot of people who came to the meetup who hadn't
1:59:50
been listening releases 2019 I mean pandemic listeners we got a
1:59:54
lot of new people in the during the pandemic. Of course there
1:59:59
were centric where A timer to trick Good work. Good work on
2:00:03
spreading that Wuhan thing John. Well done well done. We go to
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our first Associate Executive producer Tom wrecker from
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emails, emails, emails, Pennsylvania 293 17. I'm sending
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you guys a value for value royalty payment. My friend and I
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started a podcast and website last year and we're doing things
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but no agenda. Wait, no jingles, no karma. Just a lot of
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appreciation for what you guys have created and continue to do
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to the no agenda family members who enjoy movie reviews or are
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wondering if a film is worth a watch. You can throw out those
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rotten tomatoes and check out the daily ratings.com for the
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daily ratings podcast. Let's go lick the world. Nice. I'll put
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that in your next year name as well.
2:00:48
John C Dvorak: Your Rotten Tomatoes has been corrupted.
2:00:51
Adam Curry: I've never I don't look at ratings or any of that
2:00:54
stuff ever. Anyway, I don't trust it all like Yelp. I've
2:00:57
never been a Yelper Now trust me, it's all gamed. gamed
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John C Dvorak: he Brooke Mortensen and Sierra Vista,
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Arizona. Megan Kelly's new listener here.
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Adam Curry: Ooh, Megan donation.
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John C Dvorak: Make a donation. I love and appreciate all of you
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so much. I found many gems like no agenda through her humble,
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generous, sassy self. And then I started listening to Rogan
2:01:27
because of you. Oh, that's a switcheroo. Yeah. So you're
2:01:33
welcome, Joe. Yep. High five to $22.22 as a road duck
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Adam Curry: from her. And Monday, I will be back on the
2:01:43
Megyn Kelly show.
2:01:45
John C Dvorak: What's the topic?
2:01:47
Adam Curry: I don't know what the topic is. I've been asked to
2:01:52
I don't know. I've been asked to come on the show. That's all I
2:01:54
know.
2:01:55
John C Dvorak: Maybe just set up.
2:01:58
Adam Curry: It's hard to I think it's hard doing a show. Five
2:02:04
days a week, you gotta get a guest. And it's like, and my
2:02:07
numbers up. Don't you think that's kind of how it goes. I
2:02:09
mean, that's
2:02:10
John C Dvorak: if that's you. I don't know if I've lectured
2:02:13
enough about why that's a bad idea.
2:02:17
Adam Curry: Being doing an interview show?
2:02:19
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can do interviews
2:02:21
every so often. But a daily interview showed requires a full
2:02:26
time Booker.
2:02:27
Adam Curry: And you know, there's so much competition so
2:02:29
you have Joe Rogan, which I still consider to be the mack
2:02:32
daddy you know that's that's the all time Johnny Carson Tonight
2:02:36
Show level.
2:02:37
John C Dvorak: Ya know, it's the number one it is the show.
2:02:39
Adam Curry: It is the show. And then we have Bo but else do we
2:02:43
have out Glenn Beck? I think Glenn Beck is huge. I think
2:02:45
that's also a big show. We have a dip compared to not compare
2:02:50
not to be compared.
2:02:51
John C Dvorak: It's not comparable. But then you have
2:02:52
everyone
2:02:53
Adam Curry: who all go on to pool boy pool boy pool. Boy, I'm
2:02:55
never going on the Playboy show. That would be the equivalent of
2:02:58
going on Letterman when you're when you've been discovered by
2:03:01
Carson. Now that I think that would be rude. Don't you think?
2:03:09
John C Dvorak: Well, I think it'd be lousy. Yeah,
2:03:11
Adam Curry: I'm Yes. For
2:03:13
John C Dvorak: more reasons than one.
2:03:14
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, okay. It's West Virginia. wants to travel
2:03:19
to West Virginia.
2:03:21
John C Dvorak: Oh, well, that's your home. That's your stomping
2:03:23
ground?
2:03:24
Adam Curry: For three months, my alma mater, you're right. 208 16
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comes to us from Victoria, Australia. Altona north from
2:03:33
Denee. Denise says, Hey, Adam and John The number represents
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my daughter's due dates. 2080220 816.
2:03:45
John C Dvorak: Maybe much?
2:03:46
Adam Curry: Oh, I wonder if this was? Is that the Australian
2:03:50
number? Is that the UI?
2:03:52
John C Dvorak: Are you asking the wrong guy? Yeah, I'm
2:03:54
Adam Curry: just just asking in their first time donor. I first
2:03:58
heard your show from Carl and who are these podcasts back in
2:04:01
2020. Thank you for your honesty, integrity and producing
2:04:04
a great show. It irked me to hear Adam butcher the
2:04:08
pronunciation of Xi Jinping recently. So I'm offering a
2:04:12
pronunciation note. The X sound or the z sound in China is
2:04:18
unvoiced and sound similar to the English if spoken through a
2:04:21
grimace or wide smile. I'm trying Xi Jinping. Okay. And
2:04:28
then there's a he has a whole bunch of complaints. I'm I was
2:04:31
wrong. I was wrong about Australian beach. Everything's
2:04:33
great. There's no Chinese beef. I was wrong about their money.
2:04:37
Everything's great. Nothing's wrong with the money in
2:04:39
Australia. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. That's
2:04:43
kind of how I sum it up.
2:04:46
John C Dvorak: And I think that's pretty accurate.
2:04:47
Adam Curry: And lastly, I recently listened to Adam
2:04:49
discussing his conversion on the JRE. Congratulations. I was
2:04:52
blown away by the difference in audio quality. I don't know what
2:04:56
you're doing over here, but keep up the good work. Yes. Some
2:05:00
people do say that our audio quality, ruins ruins people
2:05:05
listening to other other podcasts. And so you know what I
2:05:08
say? No,
2:05:10
John C Dvorak: I say it's a crime, that you have not won an
2:05:14
audio engineering award of some sort because you're the one
2:05:18
responsible for the audio sound, not me. And you should get an
2:05:22
award from the AES or someone or a podcasting operation for the
2:05:28
sound, it just baffles me
2:05:30
Adam Curry: whereas the podcast Academy I deserve it.
2:05:36
John C Dvorak: You get nothing. This is the back. This is the
2:05:38
problem. You're you now you understand the talent is one
2:05:42
side of the mic. And yeah, hind it, you know, never gets enough
2:05:47
recognition.
2:05:48
Adam Curry: They I'm sure the podcast industrial complex, who
2:05:52
actually create these types of awards, which are bullcrap. And
2:05:55
I've always laughed at. They don't like me, because I laugh
2:05:58
at their little little award shows. The NBS, please. I mean,
2:06:03
it just sounds like something like some pharmaceutical thing.
2:06:07
Here's an ambi. Don't want that. Thank you, Dan. I
2:06:11
John C Dvorak: don't know about the NBS. Oh, that's
2:06:13
Adam Curry: that's the award of the industry and there's all
2:06:16
kinds of it's everyone has watery. This is the podcast
2:06:19
industrial complex.
2:06:21
John C Dvorak: You're the industry.
2:06:23
Adam Curry: Thank you. Yeah, the actual one we should
2:06:26
John C Dvorak: you know what I thought about this before I
2:06:28
bring it up. Here we go. Here we go. We should have the no
2:06:32
agenda, podcasting awards. I'm all in was doing for that that
2:06:39
didn't take much to convince No, I'm all in there because it will
2:06:42
be hilarious. But it would be well, it'll be I don't think it
2:06:46
would be hilarious. I think we'd probably come up. It would take
2:06:50
us a while and these will be awards. I guess you're supposed
2:06:52
to do them once a year. But once we do them once and then we have
2:06:55
to do them every year. They would actually be good podcasts.
2:07:01
Oh yeah. Not repurpose junk from NPR or want to be junk from NPR
2:07:06
that wants to be on NPR but it can't make it none of that
2:07:10
stuff. There's a lot and you line podcasts it's a lot of
2:07:14
work. Okay, we're not doing exactly
2:07:17
Adam Curry: onward the grid left
2:07:21
John C Dvorak: Cheryl Cheryl dorsal doors fell in Big Pine
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Key Florida. Wow. Gee douche me.
2:07:32
Unknown: You've been deep deuced
2:07:36
John C Dvorak: I was hitting the mouth by my favorite son sir TJ
2:07:39
the wrathful going to meet up outside of Nashville Monday
2:07:43
night with him love the show. There's no other like it in the
2:07:48
universe. So that's a fact. So under bucks.
2:07:50
Adam Curry: This is the wife of Sir TJ the wrathful who also
2:07:55
brought his human resources to the meet up and they're the ones
2:07:58
that did the we don't talk about brand and Brandon and his kids
2:08:04
were adorable. Yeah, I said abused them some more. We need
2:08:08
more of that stuff. And he said okay, no problem. I'm doing it.
2:08:11
JC Swisher in Naples Idaho $200 switch a roofer Joe wall for his
2:08:17
birthday April 22 Happy birthday to the love of my life. And the
2:08:20
one who hit me in the mouth. Well, thank you very much Joe.
2:08:23
We're gonna do that. Yeah, I mean, Joe I'm Jake you JC and
2:08:27
thank you Joe for hitting JC in the mouth good work
2:08:31
John C Dvorak: all right. Okay, this is gonna be tough because I
2:08:35
don't get to this be stained Duke in name Megan. Holland
2:08:40
pretty good pretty close. ITM my colleague and I this standard is
2:08:45
the last 200 bucks. ITM my colleague and I are going to
2:08:49
meet up this week. And because I don't want to go. As a
2:08:51
freeloader. Here's my donation might call it will give him a D
2:08:54
douching.
2:08:57
Unknown: De deuced.
2:08:59
John C Dvorak: My colleague, on the other hand, doesn't mind
2:09:01
going as a freeloader. Please call out Eric as a douchebag.
2:09:08
That's the message.
2:09:10
Adam Curry: All right. Then we have oh, that's it. That's the
2:09:12
last one. Let me we're going to take a second break later on.
2:09:17
Don't you think we should do a second break?
2:09:19
John C Dvorak: Well, I mean, it's less numbers total than
2:09:21
last show, which we did when one pass is not that many left.
2:09:25
Adam Curry: Okay, well, then let me just thank a couple people
2:09:29
for some other donations that we got at the meetups. $100 from
2:09:34
Cisco V of the Piedmont 100. And that's a switcheroo for a smokin
2:09:38
hot girlfriend siara. We have Mark and Lisa church $100.
2:09:45
Professor Tom Gallucci. He came up with an outstanding
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promotional item the no agenda sealing wax c e i l i n g. And
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so he actually created a product now we have sealing wax for your
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important correspondence as a knight or a dame for your ring.
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He actually created a product called no agenda sealing wax and
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you can put it on your ceiling and there's no agenda sealing
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wax.com Stephen West a boob donation 808 Thank you for the
2:10:17
community Love and Light he's in Lewisburg loser Burg, loser bug
2:10:23
something Tennessee Samantha West's thanks for hitting me in
2:10:26
the mouth have some boobs 808 And we had we each got a silver
2:10:32
dollar from photo by franklin.com. A Lady Liberty for
2:10:41
each of you. Thank you very much beautiful. I will send that to
2:10:43
you. And then we got two beautiful challenge coins and
2:10:47
$100 from Sir Rory of the duck river. And he wrote a very nice
2:10:51
long note. And I will forward that to you as well John, and we
2:10:55
thank everybody for coming to the meetup. Just being at the
2:10:57
meetup was was great. Some people were being hitting them
2:11:00
out on the spot and donating $33 Getting on some of those
2:11:05
wonderful, sustaining donations and was really nice to see
2:11:08
everybody. Thank you for coming out. John's gonna take us
2:11:11
through the rest of these donations and then we'll give
2:11:13
John C Dvorak: you guys a few left. Let's start with cerveza
2:11:15
cerveza get it get it? Get it? I got it. He's in Florissant,
2:11:18
Colorado. $105 Heather Allen in new Wilmington, Pennsylvania.
2:11:24
$105. As he goes, she wanted to do shopping or anything I don't
2:11:29
know and we'll see it. Know, Douglas Murray in Missoula,
2:11:34
Montana 9420 Douglas Murray, and I'm sorry Douglas Murray was in
2:11:40
Missoula, Montana. Sir Kevin McLaughlin is up there with 808
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You know him. He's a locust North Carolina everyone's
2:11:46
favorite. Edward Owens in Alameda, California. 808. Kyle
2:11:52
high in Keizer, Oregon, switcheroo for his wife, Erin.
2:11:57
Hi, hag. Ah, I think that's pronounced Hi. Ha, ha i g h
2:12:03
sounds right. And then he says it because it's 808 He says I
2:12:07
love your boobs, babe. Patrick Coblenz Fairview HireVue tenants
2:12:12
See
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Adam Curry: he donates as well. He stays unstoppable pays for
2:12:17
everything. He makes everything happen. Patrick, really
2:12:20
John C Dvorak: any 140 Happy birthday to his daughter Karen.
2:12:24
Oh, that's right. Yeah. Beautiful wife Sarah, who
2:12:26
Adam Curry: I met I met both his kids and his wife was great.
2:12:29
John C Dvorak: Oh, that's nice. Yes. Raymond Bressler in
2:12:33
Arlington, Washington. 6996. Joseph Stegman in 1000, Oaks,
2:12:37
California. 66. Kevin O'Brien, Chicago, Illinois. 606. And he's
2:12:44
getting knighted as Sir Kevin of the ADF parallel. Standard fair
2:12:49
will do. So he's on the list. He is Sir mango meet in Detroit,
2:12:54
Michigan. 56. This is interesting. Because I know for
2:13:01
a fact that Kevin McLaughlin came in with a second donation
2:13:06
for 606. Okay, and it's not on here so it's my may have gotten
2:13:12
bumped or didn't Ah, I don't know what happened tomorrow,
2:13:14
sir. But anyway, thanks to him again. Sir. Mango, meet Mr.
2:13:18
David Galloway in Flower Mound, Texas. 510. Love the Maoist
2:13:23
revolution segment. Dean Roker 50 People love them. I
2:13:27
Adam Curry: wish we got more coming up.
2:13:29
John C Dvorak: 5510 sure Mark and Greenwood, Indiana with a
2:13:32
birthday at $53. And this is switcher roofers, amazing keeper
2:13:36
de Maria of the Greek kingdoms. I think it's her birthday. Bob
2:13:41
Butler and coming Georgia 5069 Chris Wichita Chris just playing
2:13:47
Chris in Wichita, Kansas 5050. And fan. He's got a birthday for
2:13:52
his wife and lad and now we got the $50 donors who have run
2:13:56
right through these these are starting with Nathan Cochran.
2:13:58
His names and locations Franklin, Tennessee 50 Tatiana
2:14:02
Prince in Hollywood, Florida, Peter odo in Ridge New York
2:14:06
Steven Chu Mach in Xenia, Ohio John John Joan pulse pul s in
2:14:13
Hernando Beach, Florida gadget freak 10 in Western Springs,
2:14:18
Illinois, Alexander per day whoa in Gig Harbor, Washington Scott
2:14:23
lavender, our friend in Montgomery, Texas, Sir Andrew
2:14:27
gusik in Greensboro, North Carolina, Joe Oswald in Lithia.
2:14:30
Florida, Peter, Andrew Perez in San Marcos, Texas with a
2:14:35
switcheroo credit sister Aida Aida AI da she's gonna have a
2:14:42
birthday 60 Matt Illingworth in Montclair, New Jersey. 50 Robert
2:14:48
case in Mills Springs, North Carolina. 50 Christie Jones in
2:14:52
Demarest, Georgia. Steven crummy in El Cajon, sir by the mighty
2:15:01
in Marietta, Georgia Jerry Wilson Roth in Saugus,
2:15:06
California and last on the list is Leanne Shipley in Covington,
2:15:10
Washington are actually fairly short list. Yes. Well, we do
2:15:13
want to thank them all.
2:15:14
Adam Curry: We're going to make up for that with lots of nice
2:15:17
things and birthdays and we have a black night to deal with
2:15:20
today. Sir Mike of the New Jersey lowlands and we missed
2:15:25
him on the last show. He says after many months, I finally
2:15:28
reached the title of night. I'd like to thank you and Adam for
2:15:30
keeping me sane in this world of media nonsense. The show was
2:15:33
definitely the best podcast in the universe. That's right. It's
2:15:37
in the leaked document from discord. I'd like to request the
2:15:40
title of Night of the New Jersey low lands and have Irish car
2:15:43
bombs at the roundtable. That doesn't sound very nice. Okay,
2:15:49
Irish car bomb
2:15:50
John C Dvorak: maybe it's a drink?
2:15:52
Adam Curry: I hope so. I don't know if I like that loving
2:15:55
light. He says sir Mike of the New Jersey lowland and thank you
2:15:59
all very much for supporting the show. Episode 1548. The
2:16:05
executive and Associate Executive producers know by now
2:16:08
that those are titles you can have forever. They do not
2:16:12
expire. You can use them anywhere credits of showbusiness
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