May 4th, 2023 • 3h 9m
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Adam Curry: She's the Yoko of
the Royals man. Adam curry, John
C Devorah. They made for 2023.
This is your award winning
combination media assassination
episode 1552.
Unknown: This is no agenda
Adam Curry: cranking up the
drone wars and broadcasting live
from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country here. Number six. The
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry.
John C Dvorak: And from Northern
Silicon Valley. They're
considering the date. We're all
saying the same thing. May the
Fourth be with you? I'm John C.
Dvorak. Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, I forgot
all about that. I'm not a not a
Star Wars fan. I mean, I'm, I
mean, I watched the first one
and Empire Strikes Back and that
was it. I was done. That was it.
I didn't need any more than
that. Yeah. Was enough was
enough? Well, I will say,
there's not going to be any Star
Wars movies for a while. It's
happened twice in the existence
of this show. And two and both
times it has only benefited us.
John C Dvorak: Joshua has no
edge.
Adam Curry: The writer strike.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know. It
is only been once during the
show. This is the second time.
Yeah, this is the second time so
and it lasted the first one last
100 days. And it did took it
ruined the business and it hurt
them. The the bottom line in
Hollywood, California. And I
don't see. The thing is I think,
do I think I have a clip like
this? Maybe
Adam Curry: I have a clip, I
backgrounder and was talking
about just from France? 24.
Because you know they at least
Yeah, why don't we try it? At
least I tried to give us some
some valid reporting.
Unknown: It is day one of the
first Hollywood writers strike
in 15 years and writers have
certainly turned out in huge
numbers. Hundreds of people
marching right now in front of
the Netflix headquarters in
Hollywood chanting slogans like
corporate greed has got to go,
no contract, no script, and LA
is a union town. And that's a
case. We've heard lots of
support lots of cars, dozens and
dozens of them honking their
horns in support of these
writers as they drive by these
writers who were asking for
several things, including better
pay streaming residuals, or
royalties for when a show that
they've been working on is then
sold on to a streaming giant
late nights like Netflix, and
also mandatory staffing. But
that last point is the one that
was really the major sticking
point in negotiations with these
entertainment companies. And
that is what led to those talks
breaking down last night. We're
already seeing some
consequences. Some of those late
night talk shows like Jimmy
Kimmel Live, The Late Show with
Stephen Colbert, all going into
reruns starting tonight. And of
course, as long as the longer
this strike goes on, the more
consequences we will start
exploring the entertainment
world here in Hollywood.
Adam Curry: Yeah, I always love
this except this time, they're
really screwed. They're totally
screwed this time because
they're not gonna get anything
they want. There's no residuals
and streaming. They all accepted
these deals like oh, okay, well,
you
John C Dvorak: need and they got
bonused on him. Yes, they got
extra money upfront. I'm not
undecided. The writers being a
writer myself, I'm not in that
union. But I will say this, they
were giving them extra money
because of the no residual
situations with from the
streamers on Netflix. And those
guys. They were throwing money
around like it was crazy. Net,
Netflix and Amazon Studios give
us tons of money Fire Rod did.
And and my understanding is that
the studio is also expected to
strike some years ago and have
have put so much stuff in the
can Yeah. That they can flow for
a year.
Adam Curry: Well, so there's a
number of things and and I'm not
against organized labor. I'm not
against unions. I think I am a
pro union. I'm sag AFTRA, I
believe although I've never made
enough money to get into the
into the retirement fund. I used
to get I don't even get money
from anymore I used to get 12
cents from seriously I would get
like $1.05 I would get a
residual check from Swamp Thing.
And one thing and circus of the
stars also got me residuals for
a little bit there. But part of
it is you know this per episode
saying and then you know, on
streaming, you know, if you
would do friends today, which
had what 30 episodes a season,
it would have eight now so
there's a per episode
John C Dvorak: thing everyone's
subscribed to these eight
episodes. In fact, the even on
network TV, there was one show
called The Good Place, which was
funny show but it was like 10 it
very It wasn't even the same
from year to year it was it was
10 episodes and then they take a
year and a half off because
they're I will get to an end and
when we get 10 Good episodes or
12 Good episodes, we'll put
another season together and they
go on and I never been what I
love liked that show, but I
never even watched the last
season. There was like a two
year delay for it to come out
because they've taken their
time. I mean, come on. And Sid
Caesar used to do like 40 shows
a year, hour and a half comedies
all original
Adam Curry: way. We do 110 We do
have the writers now you see,
like, none of the late night
shows all those guys. They're
worthless without their writer
room, and the jokes are okay.
But you know, they might write
more than the jokes. It's the
questions. It's the interviews.
It's also incredibly phony and
just bull crap. And please,
Writers Guild of America, don't
you know, members don't write us
and tell him he don't know what
it's about. I don't care.
Really. We
John C Dvorak: have to listen
what it's about, you know, who
sent it to me? Yeah, the
Adam Curry: it's a huge list.
One of our guys
John C Dvorak: has is involved
in the strike. And he sent us a
huge list of all the demands and
all the counter proposal and put
Adam Curry: it in the show
notes. Everyone can take a look
at it. But the world has
changed. You've changed speakers
John C Dvorak: changed. I mean,
it changed for every writer. I
mean, look at the magazine
business. If you want to go back
to the early days like face,
let's say when the magazine
business you're
Adam Curry: a millionaire back
in the day, you were riding high
on the hog, you had limo 24 hour
service, you had your money in a
brown paper bag?
Unknown: I did. Can you tell us
a
Adam Curry: little bit just a
tad.
John C Dvorak: And then if you
Sure. And so if you go to back,
let's say in the 70s he go back
to that there was a period of
time before that where there was
called the short story market
where all these magazines like
Colliers and all the use of
published short stories and then
they were quarterly so it would
do stuff like that. Did that
that business? Who's what short
story writer? Do you personally
know? I don't know of any. And
also,
Adam Curry: if you look at the
business, Disney plus Netflix,
Netflix, Paramount. These guys
are bleeding money, the whole
thing was short sighted. They
all were gonna get into
streaming business in the
future. Yeah, maybe during the
lockdown. You know, there was
some some business some future
in it. But then that ended
during COVID. And you know,
people are going back to the
movies. It's just it's a
different world. And and the
free money train is over, it is
over. So you know, there's just
not any money speculative money
that's going into these
projects. You know, most most
companies are crowdfunding these
days. By the way, speaking of
bull crap media companies, Vice
media. Finally, finally, this
thing is going out of business,
John C Dvorak: but there's buzz,
Buzzfeed News, killer, whatever
they
Adam Curry: vice media, which
was blooming I used to look at
this thing all the time. Like
how are these guys doing it?
They basically they started as a
magazine in Canada. You know,
Shane Smith, bullcrap artists,
Gavin McInnes, who started proud
boys and and ran around his
podcast with a dildo buzz but
flying people. They started by
hoodwinking Murdoch into a $70
million investment. But then
they raised in total $900
million from Time Warner from
all you know, all these
different companies. And they
had no business model. They were
basically they were an
advertising company that made
hip content, you know, and then
they actually bought an ad
consulting company with 500
people, they built a 60,000
square foot facility in
Brooklyn. And finally is like,
no one is dumb enough to put
money into it and now it's just
gonna be it's gonna be going out
of business. It's like it's all
of this was bull crap. It was
built on bull. And Allah that's
what a lot of this the streaming
stuff, I'm sorry, writers and
Spotify, who of course allowed
gimlet and parcast to unionize
under the WGA to another
podcasts are affected by this
Unknown: pod. All these true
flags? Yes. You know that.
John C Dvorak: I know about the
unionization? That gimlet Yeah.
And some of the other efforts,
but that's under the Writers
Guild WGA.
Adam Curry: East. Yeah. And that
was awesome. But that was also
it's crazy. It was premised on
bowl. Because you and I talked
about this all the time, like
you can't. The podcast model
does not work with executive
producers and producers and line
producers and editors. No, it
works when one or two people do
it themselves, themselves. And
they may be maybe you're lucky
enough to have an extra person
or like we do value for value.
We make everybody a producer and
give everybody credit for making
the show and make everyone feel
that they're part of the show.
But no, they weren't all
Hollywood. And then when the
money dried up, we'll start
selling your Neumann mics people
know I'm working off a $700
piece of gear here, dad $70,000
Yeah,
John C Dvorak: gear. Yeah. Yeah.
And your gear sounds better. In
fact, as we talked about earlier
before the show, I've always
thought you should win an award
and I'm guaranteeing that you
will
Adam Curry: and I know what I'm
going to snub I'm going to snub
the academy. Like gonna be
accepting on behalf Robert
Downey Jr. You know, something
like that. I'm not gonna go. No,
but it's, it's sad because I
don't think there's going to be
an agreement that is
satisfactory for the writers who
really just have to find they
should be doing pot. In fact, I
was just talking they are. I was
talking. I was talking to my
buddy who got kicked out of
Disney.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Our
friend. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I've never met him
but kicked I consider him a
friend from before. Yes. And I
have had dinner. I've stayed at
his house. So we actually are
friends. So your buddy's real
true friends. And he's and he,
you know, they still there. They
still have on payroll because,
Oh, oops, they couldn't actually
kick him out. Because, you know,
a whole division started to fall
apart. So Oh, could you please
stay?
John C Dvorak: That's not
reported?
Adam Curry: Well, I'm probably
already going further than I
should. But as we were talking.
We agreed. You cannot Hollywood
has they don't see it. They
cannot go up against the number
one non union content producer
in the world, which is taking
all the money. And that is tick
tock. Tick tock is where all the
money is. He agreed with me.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. He said,
You know, they were funny. I
mean, I I harken back to the
90s. When there was a crossover
point in this, this happens
every so often is not observed
well by the pundit class. And
that was the crossover point
where the game game computer
game and console business was
making more money than the movie
business.
Adam Curry: Oh, hundreds of
millions more I would say,
John C Dvorak: yes, they were
making and profiting more than
the movie business. And these
crossover points take place all
the time. And it's like when
something crosses over and then
everything has to adjust once it
happens. And Hollywood, from
what I can tell really has been
very reluctant to adjust to
anything.
Adam Curry: Well, of course,
because it's all it's all been
such a wonderful system like oh,
yes, well, you don't have
guaranteed minimum drama ball.
Oh, no, just look I've been in
Hollywood look. You've been in
Hollywood you know how it's a
bunch of arrogant dicks and
everyone's in on the game. And
yet I mean there's a lot of very
talented people make no mistake
incredibly talented people. But
you know but all of it is the
fire leaves you you know the
fire and well how great is the
writing the How great is the
writing been and let's just add
to that, that how the streamers
but Hollywood, whatever you want
the content creation business.
They are also captured by the
magical artificial intelligence.
And I think they truly believe
that they can cut costs by using
chat GPT to build a bare bones
script. These people are
insanely absolutely correct.
Insanely stupid. So this is
another thing and they're not
going to give up on that. That's
what the writers apparently also
want. guarantees that that
exactly, that will not happen. I
think every article you heard is
Hollywood. Writers demanding
studios regulate regulate AI so
it doesn't steal their jobs. Now
of course it's going to steal
your job. Yeah, how about this
just just people on Tik Tok are
gonna are going to be the new
millionaires they're gonna do a
great job but a lot of them are
already millionaires. They're
gonna create groovy stuff and
people will enjoy it it'll be
short form everyone's everyone's
horrible. Jacked up all jacked
up like 30 seconds.
Unknown: Mega drug hits.
John C Dvorak: But this stuff
goes on forever. I want to since
you brought up the AI thing with
these guys. I want to bring up
an AI clip. Okay, here's the
only one I have so we're gonna
talk about AI okay. You know
that she gar and crystal ball.
They have this podcast by the
way
Adam Curry: can I just say I
find her outfit odd. Now blindly
listen
John C Dvorak: on audio so I
don't see what she's wearing.
But
Adam Curry: you and I as
producers, you know, so they
have a first of all,
congratulations to them because
they let where they leave. They
left the hill on the hill and
everyone like you idiots and
they did a pretty good job and
the Crown Fahd crowdfunded
crowdfunded stuff and people
John C Dvorak: I thought, I
think of all the people that did
a spin off like that arrogantly,
yes and with with criticism, I
think they did a great job they,
they, they gotta have a working
operation. Although, if you
listen to their more recent
podcasts, they want to get more
money so they can buy a big
studio.
Adam Curry: Now I heard that the
curry Devorah consulting group
would like to make a statement.
Don't do it. You're stupid. We
just have to say Leo Laporte.
Don't do it. Joe Rogan's studio
is like a little space that he
that he subleases from a fitness
company, in an industrial area
of Austin is what you see is
what it is. It's a small studio.
You don't need big studios, you
don't need to be don't go that
the whatever you're doing now
the thing that you have, whether
it's green screen, or I'm not
quite sure what it is. It's
fine. Don't Don't throw the
money away. Would you agree?
John C Dvorak: Partner?
Absolutely. It's crazy. Once you
know what to think and think
you're gonna turn into some you
know, massive This is the
problem is getting a big head.
Instead of just pocketing the
profits stop shrink your head,
trigger head. So they have
they're so big now that they
have this, this couple whose
name is Emily and Ryan. So every
once in a while they take they
have the shows there's and
Emily, Emily's here talking
about AI and how it's making an
incursion. And she makes a
comment in here that and she's,
I thought I would have thought
initially listening to because
I've never heard these two
before that she's like cokehead
She sounds coked up. But in
fact, when you listen to when
you listen to her, the
Adam Curry: whole Piper's up
been doing Hollywood coke Stop
it.
John C Dvorak: You can tell she
has a cold, okay? Because you
can hear, see and hear anything,
but she's not coked up. She is
just got a cold, but she sounds
terrible. And he or she is going
on a little bit about AI and she
drops a little bombshell in here
that just I'm just a head
shaker.
Unknown: Oh my gosh. And that's
what Hinton is saying. I mean,
he's saying, you know, they if
you think about what AI sees as
increasing its power, what a
algorithm might see is
increasing power. It's cloning
itself it is doing going after
other people that threatened its
power, just logically, you can
understand how an algorithm
would get from point A to point
B. And that creates something
that spirals out of human
control very, very quickly. And
so I am concerned about things
like teenagers using AI and
getting you know, basically
sexually assaulted by AI. I
think that's a huge concern.
Adam Curry: Don't touch me
there. Show me on the doll where
the AI assaulted you. What is
that you
John C Dvorak: believe that?
Adam Curry: Well, you know,
assault these days is just
saying, you know, like, Hey,
nice dress, you know, that's
sexual.
John C Dvorak: Nice tickets.
Adam Curry: Go. Stop it. I don't
like the word tickets. I don't
like it's always bothered me. I
don't know why. I'm just saying
John C Dvorak: look within.
Unknown: Thank you. Thank you,
Grace Hopper, she'll do that.
John C Dvorak: Well, so I you
know, this is like, people are,
they're out of control in their
analysis of AI.
Adam Curry: Okay, luckily, I
have a few clips to talk about.
Yeah, I
John C Dvorak: would have gotten
more this one I just thought was
okay. I don't know if you could
top that one. But you can, I'm
sure come up with
Unknown: a couple of things.
Adam Curry: Let's just, it's
almost like, you know, all these
euphemisms. 99% of what people
are talking about is not
artificial intelligence. I'm
sorry. 100% is there is no
intelligence that exists outside
of humans and mammals I guess.
Or org biological organisms.
That's yeah, that I think that's
safe to say. So to say it's
artificial intelligence. There
is no intelligence there's only
copy paste you know, scoring
things None None of this is
true. And the the emails we get
from people well you know, it's
going to be AI is going to be
great for people Yeah, sure. We
have all kinds of tools you
know, Photoshop if you want to
call it is AI Photoshop. There's
all kinds I agree
John C Dvorak: 100% With this,
what you just said Photoshop is
AI you said
Adam Curry: 100% We have to rock
against that we have to rock
against the 100%
John C Dvorak: I only picked it
up recently. I know I'm gonna
write you I won't be able to
turn it off so quickly so I
you're gonna have I'm gonna vote
but I appreciate being called
out. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So that is not
artificial intelligence, you
know, a transcripts that it's
incredible that we use otter.ai
and cost 20 bucks a month. And I
throw the mp3 in there and like
an hour later Oops out and it's
it's recognized your voice it
tags you. Now, of course, half
the time, it'll say it'll spell
your name JH en si Jhansi
Dvorak. Sometimes it gets it
right. But it's still even
identifying different voices is
quite. That's remarkable. It's
remarkable, but it's not
artificial intelligence. We have
a lot of this stuff. So what
what people are calling art now?
Tina does all of the resumes for
the kids, you know, because this
is what she does. She's very,
very good at it. She also
coaches, you know, here's,
here's how you want to ask for
this, you know, so there's money
for this. And so, one of the
girls is, you know, up for
review when she wants to ask for
some more money. And so Tina
says, you know, okay, I'll write
this up. So now I have something
I'll send that to you, you take
a look at it. And she says to
me, Oh, wow, she really wrote
something herself. And she's
reading it to me, John, within
within 30 seconds of like, chat.
GPT. Yeah. And then she went,
Oh, you're right. And then we
could identify, you know,
there's some repetition of
certain phrases, just chat GPT.
And that's not gonna fly. You
know, I don't care how good it
gets. It's just it's not.
John C Dvorak: So well, you
know, it's a good start to make
it worse. You know, there's
tools coming tools that are just
designed to spot that this
stuff, of course. And so you
just run it through, it's like
the same thing, like just stolen
papers, at RuneFest. Through the
system, the computer goes both
ways. It's like a double edged
sword it, you know, cuts one way
and it cuts the other. So you
can't get away with this for
long.
Adam Curry: You know what, I
believe AI is real, when it
really can stop spam. Okay. And
why isn't that the first
application? Why isn't that the
first one phone calls for that
matter? Oh, have you been I've
been getting these texts. And
it's, it's been recent. So I'm
not sure what happened. And it
goes like this. And I bet you a
lot of people are getting these,
hey, this number has been in my
phone for a long time. But I
really don't know who this is.
Who are you?
John C Dvorak: Oh, I've not
heard about this. But that's a
great idea.
Adam Curry: I get a lot of
these. Let me see if there's
more. It's like, hey, it's all
variations of that. Let me see
if I hadn't I usually get rid of
them. This one came in this
morning. And it's and it's not
from it's like, two or three
numbers or, you know, like known
area code, not necessarily some
bullcrap one. But it's text
messages, which is a bit
concerning. I wish I could find
it either one of those, but it's
always
Unknown: how's the storm? Oh,
how's the storm? Did it pass you
yet?
Adam Curry: Oh, I don't know,
you know, and stuff like that.
It's all but it's always like,
hey,
John C Dvorak: what do we do?
Then? The follow up to find out
what's going on? No, I
Adam Curry: have I have a life I
have things to do. How
John C Dvorak: to follow up.
Adam Curry: I'm not gonna follow
up. Alright, so then we have a
big, big, big thing happen in AI
world? Because remember, we all
have to be very, very afraid.
Everybody who is not who doesn't
have a an AI play? Let's just
call it what it is. That's how
the venture capitals talk about
that. Do they have an AI play?
No, Elon Musk does not have an
AI play. So what does he have to
do? He has to sign the joint
letter to say we need to stop
six months so I can catch up and
get my own AI play. Get it
funded? And now Oh, no, it's
technology
Unknown: that could be superior
to the human brain. Okay.
Adam Curry: France 24. Go back.
And one
Unknown: of its pioneers now
says part of him regrets his
role in creating it.
Adam Curry: This is nothing
better than the Creator coming
out and saying, Oh,
Unknown: 75 year old computer
scientists. Geoffrey Hinton says
he quit his job at Google so he
can independently share his
concerns about AI technology.
were you gonna say?
John C Dvorak: I was gonna say,
Yeah, because he's a forced
retirement.
Unknown: Get out of the company,
which include fears over
disinformation and stealing
human jobs. But beyond that, you
hit
Adam Curry: this this is this is
a trend. We heard the Writers
Guild of America talks about
stealing jobs. This is we're
picking up on something. And now
France 24 is talking about AI
stealing jobs, which include
Unknown: fears over
disinformation and stealing
human jobs, but also go far
beyond that.
What do we do to mitigate the
long term risks of things more
intelligent than us taking
control things like GPT for
Eclipse is a person in the
amount of general knowledge it
has an eclipses and by a long
way, in terms of reasoning, it's
not as good but it doesn't
really do simple reasoning.
Adam Curry: Okay, let's just
break this down. He says had
more knowledge than any human
ever has bullcrap. I have
Google.
John C Dvorak: And he also said
in terms of reasoning, It's not
very good. Exactly neither. And
you're, that's the other thing.
They said, Well, I can have more
effect, I was thinking the same
thing you just said, which is
that we have never accumulated
in our own brains, the
Encyclopedia Britannica, but
we've always had the
encyclopedia that we could look.
It's like an extension. It's
like a human extension, right?
So how's it going to really
outdo us? Because all of those
human extensions are the only
thing that it has access to.
It's not. It's not developing
new stuff out of the blue. Also,
Adam Curry: I think that as a
human, I have Google foo. I
mean, I can search things and
get answers that other people
can't because I know how to
input the queries. Oh, I'm great
at a prompt query. I'm gonna
prompt engineer douchebags. This
is a whole new category of
douchebag. I'm a prompt
engineer.
John C Dvorak: Do you just admit
to being one,
Adam Curry: I am one, but I
don't put it on my resume.
Unknown: And given the rate of
progress, we expect things to
get better quite fast. So we
need to worry about that.
Adam Curry: Worry about it. It's
getting better quite fast.
Worried might ask
John C Dvorak: you something,
please. Who is this guy?
Adam Curry: This is the Google
AI pioneer.
John C Dvorak: I never heard of
him. No, of
Adam Curry: course not.
John C Dvorak: Have you heard of
him? No.
Adam Curry: Don't even mention
his name. Ai pioneer.
John C Dvorak: He said that you
missed his name on and off
again. But he 75 ai pioneer How
come I haven't heard of it. And
he's old enough. He's 75. He
literally is old enough to have
been part of that first AI go
round back in the 80s. He took
Adam Curry: he took his absence
when they knew they were going
to kick them out. Because that's
what Google's doing to get rid
of everybody. And he's out there
now doing this too. If they get
his own, he wants money. Like
how can I score some money? Oh,
maybe if I warned about this,
someone will pick me up as
what's the word an artificial
intelligence? Ah, ethics ethics
guy ethics professional.
John C Dvorak: The there'll be
some like that's actually dead
analysis is on 100% Oh, you have
to stop this. I would try to
stop it in mid chat. And I
decided to go through with it.
But
Unknown: if you know, I have no
respect for you. So this guy is
Adam Curry: really trying to
garner up a gig.
Unknown: It's just the latest
warning that tech companies
might be creating a monster they
can't control. In March after
open AI released the latest
model of its chat bot GBT for
more than 1000 people from the
tech industry including
billionaire Elon Musk,
Adam Curry: which of course is
always the mark of a smart man
Unknown: and Apple co founder
Steve Wozniak signed a letter
calling for
Adam Curry: Wozniak dated Kathy
Yeah. What's your face? He does
not smart guy. Remember that?
Kathy Griffin?
Unknown: Jr. He did? Yes. So
he's
John C Dvorak: been married for
a long time. He's a good guy.
Everyone loves Wozniak. Sure,
Adam Curry: but doesn't mean
he's smart. That was a bad date.
John C Dvorak: And Apple co
founders, like Kathy Griffin
would for good reason. The co
Unknown: founder Steve Wozniak,
signed a letter calling for a
pause on AI development. While
the risks are properly studied.
Can you thought well,
organizations like the OECD have
issued guidelines, little AI
regulation exists. The US just
launched a study of possible
accountability measures in
April, and the European Union
has put forward an artificial
intelligence act, but the far
reaching legislation has yet to
be passed.
Adam Curry: So this is all this
is just another Gambit. And I
know you agree with me. So it's
not even a discussion to be had.
Silicon Valley tech companies
like they have nothing. By the
way it costs some astronomical
obscene amount to keep the
servers running for this no
business model business they
have. You can't advertise on
chat GPT. And what are you going
to do with that? How are you
going to suck the information
out of people how you're going
to suck them dry? And well
they're trying to get
John C Dvorak: right now they're
using a subscription model? Oh,
Adam Curry: who's gonna pay for
that? People don't pay for
stuff. They won't pay for it.
They won't. They're gonna I
agree. I agree. And there's
enough open source versions that
you know, I mean, you can even
transcripts, you can now run on
your own computer. I just don't
want to dedicate a machine to
it. And I'm happy to just give
it to someone else who approves
it. I don't I don't I have no
time to maintain it. So that's
that's it's not a business. So
now they have to involve the
government. Oh, yeah. Well,
regulation, okay. So now we can
be we can be regulated, which
means we have all the money and
then we can charge company you
know, they're moving away from
the business to consumer model
with this and and of course, it
uses more energy than all of
Bitcoin put together, but make
no mention of that. And even in
the United States, of course,
now we have to set up meetings
to have a meeting everybody is
from CNBC. This is Gina
Raimondo. She's our Commerce
Secretary, an AI genius. I say
we also
Unknown: want to lead the world
in AI. We want to do it safely,
safely.
Madam Secretary, you're you're
part of this meeting that the
Vice President is holding
tomorrow with
Adam Curry: Kamla Harris is
holding a meeting with Gina
Raimondo about AI, I would pay
money to sit in that meeting,
John C Dvorak: oh, I would like
to be a fly on the wall. I can't
Adam Curry: wait for the Vice
President to talk about AI.
Please, Kamala tell it better,
John C Dvorak: they better put
to bring the cameras in the
crew, you want to see this? We
want that live CEOs
Unknown: of Google and Microsoft
and open AI. And I'm curious
what the what the goal is, and
what your concern level is
around some of this technology.
The concern level is high. You
know, it's a challenge because
on the one hand, the excitement
level is high. When you think
about the promise and potential
of AI, and what it means for
advances in health care,
advances in education, advances
in business, as you say, health
care,
Adam Curry: baby health care,
because chat GPT can fix you a
healthcare. It's the advantages
this is this is huge. The future
It's all ahead of us. There's a
world of possibilities
Unknown: in healthcare advances
in education, advances in
business, as you say, we're in
the lead, and we want to keep
the lead. But it has to be done
safely. Incredibly powerful
technology. So we want to have a
serious discussion with
industry. As you know, tomorrow
will be one discussion among
many that we're having with many
stakeholders to try to figure
out how we prove how we go fast,
but without breaking things.
Adam Curry: Well, that's a great
twist on Facebook's motto, very
good Gita. So stupid. All right,
I want to move off of this. I
want to move you into yours in
some into some of your clips.
Because I see what you have
here. I think it is the news of
the day and we will have a
different takes on this. I will
start with a short clip of Nigel
Farage interviewing presidential
hopeful and former President
Donald Trump about the drone war
Unknown: and that person. I
mean, today, they're saying
there's been an attempted drone
strike by the Ukrainians on the
Kremlin. We don't yet know the
full truth. Have you seen that
story? I have not seen it yet.
Okay. All right. Well, we know
that that's the I mean, they're
quite small drones. But the
truth of it is, there's a
growing I sense in America
unhappiness about the money
that's been given to Ukraine.
Why does nobody talk about peace
and pleased negotiations?
John C Dvorak: So if I were
president, and I say this, I
will end that war one day, it'll
take 24 hours. I know Zielinski.
Well. I know, Putin. Well, we
get ended in a period of about
100%. Don't ever say
Adam Curry: even Trump is saying
it 100% 100 Pro Han or pissant
100%. I'm so disappointed that
people do this. Okay. So let's
talk about this drone. You got
clips?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is a
clip from Al Jazeera. No, they
have so so it's actually
interesting report. You created
a start and just go with it. I
mean, I didn't. I intended just
to play this first part, just
first clip, which is you go to
one. Clip one, Russia. Sorry.
But, but as I kept playing that
it's a long report and I kept
playing it. Oh, I gotta clip
this. I gotta clip that. So it
turns out to be pretty long.
Let's go with this the setup.
Unknown: Russia has threatened
retaliation for what it says was
an assassination attempt on
President Vladimir Putin. The
Kremlin says two drones were
used in an attack on the
presidential residence in the
early hours of Wednesday. It
claims Ukraine was behind it.
But Kiva strongly denies the
allegations.
This is what the Kremlin says
was an attempt on the life of
Vladimir Putin. And all object
is intercepted by air defenses.
Russia says it was a drone, one
of two that officials say were
launched by Ukraine in an
audacious attack aimed at the
Kremlin complex. Two unmanned
aerial vehicles were aimed at
the Kremlin and official
statement reads as a result of
timely actions taken by the
military and special services
with the use of radar warfare
systems, the devices were put
out of action.
Adam Curry: I think there's a
backdrop to this that there was
a so called drone which looked
like an oversize RC aircraft
with apparently with a block of
C four in it. That didn't quite
make it to Moscow and crashed
landed and there's photos of it
and it's sort of like It's like
one of those remote control
planes. Is that you that you see
at a demo demonstration day?
Yeah, this is not this is not a
Reaper drone. No,
John C Dvorak: there's a
dipshit, drones, dip shield
Adam Curry: drones. Exactly.
John C Dvorak: So, so then I sit
down, that's the report. That's
pretty much all we need. But
then it goes on, they started to
do some analysis. And in this
next clip, they have the blink
and clip that I've been trying
to find. Which is this, you
know, spa, the world's worst
analogy, and you'll hear it in
here. And then I will talk about
it for a second because it's,
the guy doesn't seem to get the
gist of this old analogy. LET'S
PLAY CLIP two.
Unknown: So the Kremlin said
that this is a wedge drone
attack was a dry run in
preparation for May the nine to
add puts him will be vulnerable
because his whereabouts unknown
and events.
It is a theory that not everyone
is convinced about.
I've seen the reports. I can't
in any way validate them. We
simply we simply don't know.
Second, I would take anything
coming out of the Kremlin with a
very large shaker of salt. Okay,
what? A shaker of salt.
John C Dvorak: So when I first
heard about the shaker of salt
comment, I was dig trying to dig
it up. And it turned out luckily
have showed up in Al Jazeera.
This the analogy of course, as
you know, you've heard it, I'll
take it with a grain of salt. I
mean, it's meaningless because a
grain of salt is nothing. It's a
grain, so who cares? But a
shaker of salt is not
meaningless. That's a lot of
salt. Yes, it sure is.
Adam Curry: So what is
John C Dvorak: he trying to say?
Is this is actually saying that
this is a big deal, because
that's what his analogy implies.
Adam Curry: Well, I think what
he's trying to say is, it's
Russian disinformation. We all
know the Kremlin lies, but he's
no, that's
John C Dvorak: what he's saying.
He's saying that overtly. But to
use the analogy of a grain of
salt to a shaker of salt. Yeah,
he's an idiot.
Adam Curry: Oh, I know. He got
this from Chad GPT GPT
suggestion. And, you know, I
don't think it was Ukraine. I
don't think it was something
that it was probably just some
some kid on the outskirts of
Moscow. I mean, this this thing
was nothing special. was ever to
see for well, we don't know if
this had C four on it. We don't
know I thought you said the
first one. No, the first one.
The first one but that crashed
way short of but doesn't matter.
It's this is all to me. It's all
distraction. Let's see.
John C Dvorak: I I agree with
your clip three. He's got to
laugh in it. So let's go there.
Unknown: On a visit to Finland.
President Solinsky denied
Ukraine's involvement. So
we don't attack Putin or Moscow.
Or we fight on on our territory.
We're defending our
religiousness. It is. We don't
have you know, enough weapon for
this.
John C Dvorak: He's begging for
money again.
Adam Curry: He got some I think.
I think we gave him some more
money on Wednesday.
John C Dvorak: That's a slippery
way of begging for my uh, you
know, we did nothing to do with
it. But we can in fact, we can't
even afford it. We can't afford
it if you give us a money maybe
we do it dude.
Adam Curry: We could crowdfund
that drone. I mean, this guy is
unbelievable. wait and wait
until you hear my clips you
share it. Okay, so
John C Dvorak: here we go with
this that final clip on the
drones the reaction
Unknown: get even as air raid
siren sounded in the Ukrainian
capital. The mere possibility
that Ukraine had struck a blow
at the heart of Russian power
was thrilling for some
of my classmates and I have been
talking about this all day. It's
very cool and very joyful. It's
lifted my spirits.
In its official statement, the
Kremlin said it reserves the
right to take retaliatory
measures where and when it sees
fit.
John C Dvorak: Now, of course,
they would say so the Ukrainian
students are all jacked up about
this. Yeah.
Adam Curry: I mean, you really
believe that this is just this
is propaganda. This is
John C Dvorak: I mean, to a
point but they they were
somebody that it wasn't like an
actor
Adam Curry: or the students in
school. I thought that you know,
the, the Russian Russia was
attacking keep everyone's has to
hide because they're getting
ready for the spring offensive.
It's all propaganda. All the
journalists are hooting and
hollering up in in Poland
they're all drinkin hanging out
with the women of the night.
Unknown: What's good is what you
do.
John C Dvorak: Women of the
night
Adam Curry: I don't know why I
said night All right, so let's
get back. Let's get back to
reality as, as we have to wind
this war down. We have to wind
this war down. We have an actual
war that we're not an actual
war, but we have sales jobs. We
have stuff to do over there in
Philippines and Taiwan, China.
See, there's real money to be
had people we've got this guy is
he wants to tiddlywinks. Ms no
sales in these drones? No, we're
not. We got to wind this down.
So how do we do it? Well, let's
crank up the old narrative of
we're going to apply prosecute
Putin, because not Russia, of
course, we'd love the Russian
people. It's all about Putin. So
how do we do that? Well, we have
to get them to the place where
we have successfully prosecuted
Putin before. And that is the
Hague in the Netherlands. And
nothing like doing a little
ceremony on the eve of May 5,
actually was there may 4 with
which is on the eve of May 5,
may 5 is Liberation Day in the
Netherlands a big deal. On
something very impressive, the
Dutch still do. And that is May
4 8pm. There is a moment of a
minute of silence. And literally
people stop their cars on the
highway get out. And we'll just
stand there and be silent for a
minute to remember the fallen of
World War Two. So of course,
we've got to bring this Nazi in.
Because the AES off brigade is
literally naming streets after
Nazi heroes and some of the
Dutch are onto it. Now there's
people writing about this and
paper saying hey, why is this
guy here on this day? But that
would not be the message we get
from Mark Ritter. And that is
the way you pronounce it. M five
M Rita? Who is a unmarried,
childless former HR manager at
Unilever. Yes.
John C Dvorak: How are they
pronouncing it on the M five M?
Unknown: Root? root root root?
Root? root root? Jimmy Dore does
it. Dude, call one Dutch please
call me
Adam Curry: to tell you what
anything you want. So Luca is an
unmarried, childless former HR
manager Unilever, somehow he has
been the prime minister for I
think 10 years now. Didn't know
maybe you'd want this is his
fourth cabinet. Keep, just keep
keep keep him in there. And he
welcomes valora Mia, to the
Hegge floor. It has been 434
days since you spoke a few
simple words that resonated all
over the world.
Unknown: And I see what you were
saying then.
Adam Curry: Sorry, I got a bus,
the Dutch guy. And I instead of
it's called, quote, I'll be
quoting you, Rita, I'll quote
you instead of I will say what
you were saying then. And I see
what you're saying then. We are
all here defending our
independence, our country. And
it will stay this way. This what
you said. And it's those are
riveting words. You Oh, my gosh,
I'm so glad we're all in front
of the Ukraine fly
John C Dvorak: to hear the
regular Winston Churchill, that
guy. We are all here
Adam Curry: defending our
independence, our country. And
it will stay this way. This what
you said. And it will be an
understatement to say that
you've have to work to resolve
and courage of the brave
soldiers and citizens Ukraine is
without precedent in our
lifetime. Wow. without precedent
in our lifetime. There's a lot
of people who are still around a
world war two dude who you're
about to celebrate. And I would
say, you know, there's some
differences in World War Two and
what you're seeing in Ukraine,
but okay. And yourself has
become a symbol or for the
country and country or country.
I like the country nice country
has become a symbol or for the
country, and its people can do
when they're fighting for the
existence, their freedom, and
your future. And we all admire
you for that. Yes, we by the
way, everyone's in a suit. Now
it's a nice reception. And he's
he's got his that. His
trademark. What does that drab
olive drab with a little logo in
the middle which is now his
whole that's his costume. You
know, that little
John C Dvorak: little Yang
costume is so tight fitting t
shirt with sleeves.
Adam Curry: He's got he's got
he's got his costume. I like
Star Trek costume. All right.
Now let's get into the meat of
what we're really doing here.
When I had to, by the way, I
think that this was organized by
the State Department the whole
thing from beginning to end, and
I think I can prove it. Our
State Department when I had the
privilege to address the members
of the Rabbah almost a year ago
As I said, we will stay with you
every inch of the way.
Unknown: As far as I'm aware,
Adam Curry: Ukraine, the
Netherlands most of the EU most
of the world uses the metric
system. Why would you say every
inch of the way unless it was
written by the US State
Department? Winner
Unknown: seriously,
John C Dvorak: this could have
been written by chat GPT Yeah,
Adam Curry: you gotta go. I
said, we will stay with you
every inch of the way. And let
me assure you Volodymyr depths,
we are determined to keep our
word now let's get to the meat
of the problem here. What do we
got to end this war man? What
are we gonna do? Because this is
an unjust war against everything
we stand for. Now. This is also
American State Department
talking points and unjust war.
Since when is war just is it
ever really just I mean, maybe
I'm,
John C Dvorak: I think you're
onto something here. This is an
interesting situation. It's
quite likely that the State
Department put this together.
Not only that, but as corny. Oh,
which is classic Blinken.
Adam Curry: The whole shaker
inch by inch. Exactly.
John C Dvorak: Step by step
slowly, I turned
Adam Curry: is an inch by inch.
Isn't that the Robert De Niro
speech in that football movie?
John C Dvorak: inch by inch
really comes from the Three
Stooges, I think are one of
these.
Adam Curry: All right, it's not
a just war, not a just war. It's
not fair. Because this is an
unjust war against everything we
stand for. This was war against
freedom, democracy, and rule of
law in our parts of the world
rule of law. Yeah, it's actually
as we know, it's a rule. It's a
war of aggression. Aggression.
That's right, we stand
John C Dvorak: by away rule,
that rule of law, meme, blah,
blah, blah, is very American
rule of law, of course,
Adam Curry: course democracy,
and rule of law in our parts of
the rules. That's why we stand
with Ukrainian people that had
the bastion of democracy, which
is Ukraine. And right, you can
count on our unwavering support
unwavering. Russia cannot read
this word and must be held
accountable. All the crimes of
aggression, and the injustice.
There it is the crimes of
aggression that we do, we have
to look at these euphemisms, the
crime of aggression. So if I'm
aggressive, that's a crime. If
I'm aggressive in my speaking
patterns, if I'm aggressive on
the playing field, if I'm
aggressive in my academic
studies, that is a crime. That
literally calling the crime of
aggression helped me John.
John C Dvorak: No, no, you're on
a roll.
Adam Curry: Russia cannot read
this word. And it must be held
accountable for all the crimes
of aggression, and the injustice
that this inflicting on the
people of Ukraine, day after day
in this horrific world. So what
better place to meet Dan here in
The Hague, to vehicle capital of
the world? In case you didn't
know, The Hague is the legal
capital of the world.
John C Dvorak: And that we're
miniature world is
Adam Curry: Maduro, dumb,
whatever. It's called in Maduro.
Dom Yeah, it's it's actually
close. It's I think it's between
the Hague and Rotterdam
miniature world miniature world.
So it's it's quite cute Maduro
Dom
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's
dynamite. I would recommend
every anyone who has a chance to
visit this little operation to
do do little to go do it. I've
fastened it anyway. I'm with you
on everything so far, but I've
got my conclusion is different
than yours.
Adam Curry: By the way the
Maduro dam is in The Hague. I'm
sorry. It's not between Hague
and Rotterdam, thanks to NPC.
Alright, what's your conclusion?
John C Dvorak: We're going to
we're gearing up to actually do
an invasion. boots on the ground
American soldiers.
Adam Curry: No, absolutely not.
We're gearing up to end the war.
And we're doing it with all
these fluffy we're and the way
we do it is we come up with we
come up with a way to take the
money that we confiscated,
illegal way back for the crimes
of aggression. Then we prosecute
Putin in the capital of the
legal capital of the world, just
like we did before. So what
better place to meet than here
in The Hague, the legal capital
of the world ever since the
downing of Flight MH 17 in the
Netherlands have known that
Justice doesn't come
automatically. And this was mh
17, the Malaysian flight which
they
John C Dvorak: rigged, the
rigged report never been
released. The box has never been
released as phony the same.
They're just making the Hague
look like a phony baloney
operation when he brings that
in.
Adam Curry: And they brought in
Bellingcat. The same the same
intelligence operation who had
all the proof of the boot rocket
being shot from Russia. No, he
was Ukraine. We I mean, man, we
did so much on it. We had so
much coverage of that. So he's
pulling these two together. And
of course, that's just over now.
Oh, no, no, we already know that
doesn't come easily. But but you
know, it we all know it's as
good as it's as good as we
basically have him hanging Putin
for MH 17 And we'll hang him for
this too, so that everybody can
take the money final payout.
Everybody gets their cash.
That's what's going on. I make
some tea. We in the Netherlands
have known that justice doesn't
come automatically. You have to
have staying power.
John C Dvorak: Setting power.
That means you need to buy
deodorant commercially the
Adam Curry: Viagra of law I
don't I don't know what kind of
state and power you need. But
that's weird. Let's have known
you know the State Department.
Hey, hey, I know I was putting
some funny was putting the
staying power just see if anyone
catches it make make that Rick
root guy say that make him say
that. Okay, that's cool. Did
justice doesn't come
automatically. You have to have
staying power. The Netherlands
will do everything it can to
ensure that justice is done for
Ukraine, however long it takes.
And however difficult it may be.
It's the term is whatever it
takes. But okay. Flow to me, I
should know your fish to the
Netherlands couldn't have come
at the more symbolic moment.
Every year. On the fourth of May
we remember the Dutch victims of
the Second World War, and all
the soldiers who have given
their life since then, for peace
and freedom worldwide. Tomorrow
on the fifth of May Liberation
Day, we are fortunate that we
can celebrate that we have been
a free country since 1945. And a
lot of Dutch are pissed about
this. Like what is that guy
doing here? This is a this is
our war remembrance. For our
people. The country was
flattened. people ate sugar
beets. They ate nettle soup with
rocks. So now Now, I'm not
liking that. So Zelinsky then
goes to the International
Criminal Court and does a little
bit and I'm not going to tell
you what the backdrop. All these
things have a backdrop with
their slogan. And it was a
printed slogan, which I'm not
going to tell you just yet,
because the term is used in this
report from France 24. Luckily,
we don't have to listen to him
talking. We have the F 24. Lady
to tell us kind of exactly what
Volodymyr said in this. In this
speech at the International
Criminal Court.
Unknown: He also talked about
the importance of justice that
there can be no peace without
justice.
Adam Curry: Literally on the
background and said no peace for
Ukraine without justice. Does
that sound familiar?
John C Dvorak: That's one of our
one of our lefty slogans from
the United States.
Adam Curry: No, George Floyd, No
justice, no peace. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: there's a George
Floyd. Yep. So we made it. But
it's been around forever, that
it's always the same thing.
Adam Curry: But but now they've
just turned it around and said,
there will be no peace for
Ukraine without justice. So what
they're saying is in the way I
see it, is we will call peace
after we have justice. What is
justice, that means we convict
Putin, we don't have to throw
him in jail. We have just like
mh 17 We convict him. We take
the money that we confiscated,
and then we make peace.
Unknown: He also talked about
the importance of justice, that
there can be no peace without
justice, because unless issues
are fully properly resolved,
they simply erupt again later
on. For him, it is vital that
Vladimir Putin is held to
account at this court, he made
no bones about that. And he also
said that that should be
stipulated in any negotiated
peace agreement that there must
be no repetition of aggression,
Adam Curry: repetition of
aggression, all that horrible
crime, again, by Russia,
Unknown: towards Ukraine. So he
is very clearly setting out his
points. It is true that Ukraine
might not get all at once and
there is a lot of discussion
about when this war might end,
and what might constitute some
sort of acceptable settlement to
Ukraine. So it's about the money
and there are murmurings that
perhaps Ukraine should settle
for the 2014 borders and forget
about Crimea. He is saying No
way, we want Crimea back. We
want our territory. And we want
our values, which are universal
values respected.
Adam Curry: So that's new. He's
not gonna get he's not gonna get
Crimea. He's just he just using
that as a chip. We need
universal values back to the
back to the 94. What did you
say? 9094? Let
John C Dvorak: me say they had a
date I forget what it was just
check it.
Unknown: Was it this one? Hey,
oh, I have to rewind. There we
go.
Let's forget about Crimea. He is
saying No way. Was it here for
the 2014 borders
Adam Curry: 2014 borders, okay,
which is, which is kind of what
Putin wants. So we get to 2014
borders back to which is the
Donbass region, which may be
just a demilitarized zone. And
then you get your money, which
is kind of ABS it's probably
already been stolen by now. So
everyone already hadn't. Lansky
has billions and offshore bank
accounts. This is coming to an
end. So I do not think there's
boots on the ground coming. And
the reason for that is this next
report, which is obvious what
what everyone's looking at
because what do we have we have
a dinky toy dipshit drone flying
over the Kremlin. Volodymyr
saying we don't have we don't
have we don't have this
capability. Now because it's all
over here, bro.
Unknown: Well, the Taiwan US
Defense Industry Forum was an
event where people gathered
mainly to discuss how to buy and
sell more weapons. It lasted
around three hours it took place
with a convention center in
Taipei and representatives of
around 25 US defense contractors
reportedly attended and days
before here in Beijing, the
spokesman of China's defense
ministry said that he was quote
unquote, extremely concerned
about the forum he criticized
the US as military industrial
complex and accused Taiwan's
ruling DPP of inviting wolves
into their home. There's also
been a few editorials that were
published in Chinese state media
criticizing the event last week
in the past few days. So we
haven't seen much new this
Wednesday morning, though we
have recorded an uptick in
Chinese military activity in
around the Taiwan Strait. And it
is a little bit too early to
save this has a direct link to
that event or not. What I can
say though, is that the forum
isn't really much of a big deal.
If you look at the bigger
picture, the US has already sold
10s of billions of dollars worth
of weapons to Taipei since 1979.
And earlier this year,
Washington approved the sale of
$619 million worth of weapons,
including F 16. fighter jet to
Taipei, that was the biggest
sale of 2023. So far. So these
activities aren't going to stop
anytime soon. These deals do do
come though, as Beijing has been
ramping up pressure military and
political pressure on the self
Rhode Island in recent years.
Adam Curry: So we'll do whatever
it takes for Ukraine. But the f6
teams that go into Taiwan
biggest sale of the year. This
is it. This is the Bonanza they
don't give a crap about Ukraine.
John C Dvorak: We're putting
boots on the ground. That's why
Susan Rice quick.
Adam Curry: She's She's running
mic Obama's campaign, bro.
John C Dvorak: Whatever it takes
is a term that keeps coming up.
And the only way Biden is going
to stand off as he thinks is if
he gets foot feet on the ground,
because that's the way you
always Americans always think,
well, you know, you're in a
conflict. We can't abandon our
president now.
Adam Curry: Yes, I read the
newsletter. And that is that is
sent in edit. No, I'm sorry. I
was out doing important things.
There was nothing to edit, do
you? It was fine. I didn't see
any mistakes. But I'm sorry.
You're right. I got distracted.
And that was it. I was prepping
for the show. That is a that is
certainly a playbook American
presidents have used but he is
being taken down. He's been
being taken down by the Democrat
Party. He's a marked man.
There's no way and they're just
enlisting the Republicans now. I
didn't know what is wrong with
this weather with what's wrong
with this clip. Now, why won't
this play? Let me say
John C Dvorak: I want to mention
something I did get a note from
one of our producers who's in
the army who said that he's over
there. And he says the reporting
about soldiers in Ukraine
already is not being handled at
all by the mainstream media. And
I'm telling you, something's up.
Unknown: Hold on a second. I
have it here. Oh, this is really
weird. This clip, it's got this
whole Grassley thing. I wonder
what's gonna happen to this
clip. You've heard about this.
The the here we got to see if I
play it this way. Maybe this
will work. Let me say
Adam Curry: that Yeah, listen to
this. Listen, I don't know why
it's not playing my regular
system. Here we go. Senator. I
Unknown: know you've also just
issued a statement on you, as
well as your colleague James
Comer demanding the FBI record
on alleging criminal, this
criminal scheme involving then
Vice President Biden, this
congressional subpoena, you say
seeks a specific FBI document.
Senator, thank you for jumping
on with us. What
can you tell us? Well, I will
only add to what you say that
this comes from credible and on
classified whistleblower
disclosures, this possible
criminal activity when Biden was
vice president. And we're, we
want this information. And
there's a subpoena going to be
areas issued now. And it really
boils down to my traditional
oversight of government.
Particularly see the executive
branch's doing the work that
they're supposed to be doing. So
the Justice Department, the FBI
needs to come clean to the
American people what they did
with the document, because we
know the document exists from
very credible whistleblower
information that we got. We can
we really need to know what
steps did the Justice Department
and FBI take to investigate? And
to vet the document to determine
if it's accurate or not? And did
the Justice Department the FBI
follow normal investigative
procedures? Or did they let
political calculations
interfere?
Adam Curry: So it's a double
whammy? Which is of course what
Obama does Obama is run by the
CIA. So we blame the FBI and we
get Biden out for an actual
crime, not something his kid
did. No for an actual crime on
US soil. This is a setup and you
called it you call that you call
the takedown of Biden. Now you
know, your was
John C Dvorak: fighting back and
he's going to fight back by
sending troops to Ukraine.
That's the way he's gonna fight
back. While he knows what's
what's going on.
Adam Curry: Wow. Yeah, okay.
Well, but the military
industrial complex, they don't
want
John C Dvorak: it. They're just,
they're just looking at their
bank accounts.
Adam Curry: They're all in
Taiwan with the ladies of the
night.
John C Dvorak: Well, that's more
money. It's just more money. And
the 60s, you know, who gives a
shit those things? You got to
face those things out and
started selling the expensive F
30? Fives.
Adam Curry: The dog the dog that
don't fly.
Unknown: Flies, tell me what.
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, while all
this is going down in 2023 It's
unbelievable. But there's still
a whole country that will stop
dead in its tracks to watch an
old dude with an old bag getting
a golden golden coach and be
turned into the king.
Unknown: Anti monarchy
protesters in the UK are under
close watch. Ahead of the
coronation. The British Home
Office has issued a warning
letter saying planned peaceful
protests on coronation day will
be firmly blocked.
Adam Curry: I love planned
peaceful protests. In the US
Those are cool even during
COVID. There they will be
blocked
Unknown: strong measures are in
place to prevent any disruptive
activity. A new law will enable
12 months imprisonment for
protesters blocking roads,
airports and railways unless it
from the home offices police
powers unit says the law has
been brought to prevent
disruption at major sporting and
cultural events blocking process
of the king of the climate
activists have unleashed the law
also lays down six months in
jail and a fine for protesters
locking onto other objects
including buildings like mark of
protest.
This is great.
John C Dvorak: You can name it
activists.
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, the climate
activist even though he's the
climate guy is like
John C Dvorak: a climate nut
ball. These are they should be
pleased as punch that this guy's
getting in
Adam Curry: now, but that's
because they're they're bold.
They're bold. They're both by
the way the members of the
public had been invited to swear
their allegiance to the king.
They have people around the UK
and abroad who will be invited
to say the words I swear I will
pay true allegiance to Your
Majesty and Your heirs and
successors according to the law.
So help me God says
Unknown: onto other objects
including buildings as a mark of
protest right police powers to
stop and search protesters if
they suspect they're planning to
cause chaos anti monarchy group
Republic described the letter as
very odd. The group has been
planning protests on coronation
day, their boundaries to read
knots making reports say are the
units like Climate Group
extinction rebellion have been
sent similar lunches. Many
groups have his house what they
called certain action by the
home office. They call this a
restriction of freedom of speech
and right to a peaceful and
legitimate protest.
Adam Curry: Well, of course the
UK is is a speech free zone,
man. As in you can't use any.
John C Dvorak: Yeah and go to
the corner Speaker's Corner if
you
Adam Curry: remember I went
there on Tina, I were in the UK,
it was nobody there.
John C Dvorak: I've been there a
number of times I stay at a
place that's nearby. When I'm in
London. We
Adam Curry: were there more
recent than us. Probably. Yeah.
There's
John C Dvorak: been anybody
there. I first time I was in
there. And Alana was in 1973.
There was nobody there. I
Adam Curry: was there in 19.
See, I was 15. So that makes me
76. My dad took me and we went
to Speaker's Corner. I was very
impressed. And there was no a
one or two guys standing on the
corner there talking to us.
John C Dvorak: Socialist. Yeah.
Adam Curry: But yeah, you can't
say anything on social media.
You can't do anything there
anything. And now he's like, Oh,
you want a peaceful protest? No,
no, six months in jail. No.
Peaceful protest. No, no
peaceful protest for
John C Dvorak: Yeah, happy. Now
if we're going to talk about
this topic, and I want to
mention here that I've been
listening to some more podcasts
than usual. Yeah, they spend
hours on one topic. The Royals
were on no any one topic. Yeah.
We've already on our fourth
topic here. Yeah. So let's go to
so now I've got NPR is decided
to become the frontman row and
and promoter of Camilla
Unknown: really, really the
HorseFace
John C Dvorak: Do you want a
listen to a report that is so
disgusting. It's like a
hagiography just over the air of
Camilla and the whole setup the
whole thing? It's, it's to me
it's remarkable. It's I
Adam Curry: think, yes, I do, of
course. And it feels to me like
this is very wrong. Certainly
the NPR listening audience. I
believe that they were that the
NPR audience is Lady die Fans.
And if you're a Lady Diana fan,
which I would say I was a fan. I
mean, she I disagree with the
whole story. You know, boohoo
poor poor princess now now she
was a she was a media whore. And
she liked it. And that
eventually got her killed. But
you know how she was treated
versus Camilla. Camilla is just
she is Beelzebub compared to
Lady die.
John C Dvorak: Well, we're gonna
hear the update on this because
we have one of the key experts
in pushing boo boos narratives
coming on. But let's go with
Camilla one NPR
Unknown: over the past several
decades. The one time Camilla
Parker Bowles has been known as
many things.
Adam Curry: By the way, I think
we should all go by our full
middle names Adam Clark curry
and John Charles Dvorak and
Camilla Parker Bowles
Unknown: of the rakish Brigadier
Andrew Parker Bowles, girlfriend
of the heir to the throne. But
most of all the other woman in
what turned out to be the not so
fairytale marriage of Charles
and Diana. And this Saturday,
she will officially have a new
title Queen Tina Brown wrote the
palace papers inside the House
of Windsor. And she's on the
line to talk with us about
kimolos winding journey. Tina,
welcome back to the show. Thank
you so much. For Americans who
are not obsessed with the Royals
and who might know Camilla
mainly for her role in the
breakup of King Charles is then
Prince Charles's first marriage
reminds us of her background
separate from Charles,
Adam Curry: this is so not left
this obsessed,
Unknown: obsessed, obsessed with
the queen obsessed with the
Royals at fest.
Adam Curry: It's something that
all American women, for some
reason get to get a day off from
being political, and they can
all be obsessed. Oh, I love the
hat. I love the coach. It's a
fairy tale. It's it's weird.
John C Dvorak: Now, this
particular presentation, I find
to be completely offensive. And
they bring in Tina Brown who is
famous and she's like, I don't
know if she's royal washer, a
royal watch. Well, I mean, she's
the one who started Vanity Fair.
She's a very famous editor. And
you bring her in to do a hatchet
job of some sort or some
professional, not a hit job in
this case, but a flattery job.
And so we're going to be re
educated about the greatness of
Camilla now say you're way off
with your data analysis yours
that's old. That's the old
analysis, did a new analysis I
want you to stay I want to ask
her.
Adam Curry: Well, of course this
is you know, we have a special
relationship between the US and
the UK. So every person who has
authority to speak of the Royals
has to have like we had to be a
friend of so One or been at
parties. So what do we know what
her connection was what Tina
Brown's connection
John C Dvorak: if you go to a
wiki page and start looking at
you'll see there's some deep
connection to Kingsman or
something who knows. Let's go to
part two of these clips coming
to
Unknown: comes from a very upper
class squire rocky kind of a
background. Her father was a
major, very, very, extremely
well regarded veteran hero
actually, in the Second World
War. Her mother was an
aristocrat, so she always was
raised in the extremely sort of
aristocratic Millia of a country
debutante if you like in on the
Sussex down so her whole her
circle was always extremely
upper class bumping up against
Royals in every conceivable
shape and form.
I've always thought of Charles
as sort of a stiff kind of
awkward person, although he's
grown into his role over the
years. What is her reputation?
Adam Curry: What is this NPR
lady? No. He was he was always a
little bit stiff.
John C Dvorak: But no, this is
like scripted. You're weird.
This is so scripted. It this is
i It's almost like an advert. A
one of those phony baloney ads.
It's like it's almost like an
advertisement.
Adam Curry: Is she referring to
a native ad? Is she referring to
the time when we had the the
leaked phone call of Prince
Charles saying to Camilla I wish
it was your tampon? Is that Is
that what she means? Really,
then he kind of grew into his
role
Unknown: either will shape and
form.
I've always thought of Charles
as sort of a stiff kind of
awkward personal though he's
grown into his role over the
years. What is her reputation or
the public sensibilities? No,
this
always wildly attractive,
tremendously earthy,
earthy, earthy.
Absolutely. times you know,
Compeller really was and indeed
her her brother and sister were
very appealing to they were
known as the sexy fans because
the Shan family she was you
know, Camilla Shand? You know,
they were very appealing country
family, always the sort of toast
of every debutante party and
hold on so she was a very
appealing woman and she could
have really married anyone. She
was definitely extremely popular
on the on the sort of, you know,
the single woman's circuit.
Well, you say appealing, but
what
Adam Curry: else did she date on
the single woman circuit? Who
else
John C Dvorak: they go they
present this and then of course,
her next commentary is kind of
again is different. She presents
her as like some hottie back in
the day, and the toast of the
town and you know, her and her
siblings, and so so that she's
she's developing this, this,
this narrative that is just it's
hard to believe
Adam Curry: let me finish let me
finish this clip. There's 22
seconds left home
Unknown: definitely are
extremely popular on the on the
sort of, you know, the single
woman's circuit.
Well, you say appealing, but
there was a point where she was
one of the most hated women in
Britain, I believe the year
after she married Charles, which
was 2005. A poll for The Times
of London found only 21% of the
British public would be happy to
have her as queen. But last
year, just a few days after
Queen Elizabeth died, a
different poll showed that 53%
of the British public thought
she'd do a good job in her new
role. How does she manage that
turnaround?
Adam Curry: I don't see any
dating history of her on the
wiki pedia. When she did launch
the big bone walk campaign,
whatever that is. Wow.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so we're
that was clip one, clip two,
part three. Okay, well, let's go
with Step Three because now we
get the WTF clip.
Unknown: Well, first of all, you
know, that's the reason she was
so unpopular was really because
she was always seen through the
prism of being, you know, the
usurper of the adored Princess
Diana. So you know, Diana used
to call her the Rottweiler and
you know, she was not a glamour
girl come in or at any point I
mean, part of her is that this
is a woman who likes to wear
Adam Curry: I thought she was
the hottie hottie on the on the
John C Dvorak: braid there but
she was never the glamour girl
that Auntie at any point
Adam Curry: she's the Yoko of
the Royals man. Come on. Wait
John C Dvorak: a minute. Just
the clip before this. She's
going on about she was a hottie
and she was the queen of the
dead, retired anybody gotten
married anybody? Blah, blah,
blah. And now she's never been
anything but. But a Rottweiler
or whatever that was. I
Adam Curry: can't believe we're
doing a whole segment on this.
John C Dvorak: It's just
deconstruction of NPR. Yeah,
that's
Adam Curry: a good point. They
did anyway, onward that you know
what? Elon Musk is right. They
don't deserve to have the
John C Dvorak: total agreement.
Unknown: And you know, she was
not a glamour girl. committer at
any point, I mean, part of her
appeal. He likes to wear
comfortable shoes that she
doesn't like to get funny and
Adam Curry: comfortable shoes
because she doesn't like to get
that's hot on the dating scene.
John C Dvorak: Great. She wears
comfortable shoes because she
doesn't like to get bunions.
Tony that's
Adam Curry: literally in a world
where women wear comfortable
shoes. This is horrible.
Unknown: She's because she
doesn't like to get bunions you
know she has gardeners hands in
the sense that you know, rather
gardeners
Adam Curry: hands test oh my god
I've met this chick she's so
hot. She's wearing Crocs and
she's got bunions. Gardener
hands, man all like crooked and
crap. Oh, I can't wait to bagger
Unknown: you know, she has
gotten his hands in the sense of
you know, rather dirty
fingernails from her plunging
into amongst the greenery. A
real kind of dog walker covered
in dog has you know, she's not a
glamour woman.
Wow.
Adam Curry: All right, you know,
just because I don't know why I
have this. I have to give this
to you just right now.
Unknown: That is wow. Wow.
John C Dvorak: A clip of the day
after you're complaining.
Adam Curry: This was this is
horrible. Tina Brock. Wow. I all
I can say is wow, I've said it
too many times already. Man,
John C Dvorak: it's
unbelievable. I know this. So
here we go with the UG clip.
This is a clip for
Unknown: and unfortunately for
her or you know, people knew
nothing really about her because
she was so very, very private.
Her friends knew she was this
extraordinary, attractive and
appealing woman but you know, in
terms of the public feeling
about her, they saw her through
Diana's eyes which was usurper
and she had to have that stigma
and the press went after her was
such viciousness. I mean, the
really appalling sexist comments
about Kamala, I mean, they used
to call her, you know, Baghel
trout. You know.
Adam Curry: I've never heard old
trout. I think that's a winner
show title
Unknown: spaciousness. I mean,
the really appalling sexist
comments about Kamala, I mean,
they used to call her you know,
Baghel trout,
Adam Curry: which were I mean,
she called her lady with
gardener hands a dog lady, by
the way. How can old trout be
bad? Passes? This is NPR man.
Crazy press
Unknown: Control. NAFTA was such
viciousness. I mean, the really
appalling sexist comments about
Kamala, I mean, they used to
call her, you know, Baghel
trout. You know, I mean, there
was even a dish named after her
as haddock, Parker Bowles. I
mean, just the rudest thing had
to the point that she used to
joke to Charles and assign her
letter to him. You're devoted
old bag, Camilla. Because she'd
been called it so often.
Sounds like she was a good sport
about the abuse. Yes,
she had a great sense of humor
that was part of her strength.
So do you think over time
the public has forgiven her and
it thinks, look, this is a
legitimate relationship? Is it
legitimate love between these
two? And we've time time healed
how the public felt about her?
Well, yes, because she's now
been a working royal for 20
years actually really want
nearly 20 years. I mean, as well
as wife of Charles, there has
been an acceptance, I mean, in
some ways, because Charles now
becomes king so late, and she's
a woman of 75. After all, she
has now become sort of the
nation's grandmother and is sort
of on her way to becoming sort
of a national treasure. So
having kind of getting the
reward, as it were so late has
really been beneficial to her
because earlier, I don't think
the public would have accepted
it. But they're beginning to see
that she's a very hardworking,
very gracious, humorous,
unpretentious woman actually,
who has definitely improved
Charles's life and has really
transformed him into being an
unapologetically happy man.
Adam Curry: Oh, he looks so
happy, doesn't he?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Now
you all should
Adam Curry: be ashamed of
themselves. don't donate to NPR.
John C Dvorak: Know give us the
money Yeah, really. So so I get
this last clip and like I say,
Keep listening to this thinking
there's got to be some things
someone some talent some what
happened here, why am I
listening to Tina Brown, doing
shtick and then also trying to
be so complimentary in some sort
of a propagandist ik way? There
must be a rationale. There must
be something something Ah, here
it comes and clip five see if
you can find it.
Unknown: In Prince Harry's very
popular recent memoir. He was
very critical of her and I
suppose like any blended family,
let's call it the Windsors have
some complicated relationship.
Is
Adam Curry: that a racist
comment blended family is that
because the Harry did not catch
that? Is that is that like
people of color? Is that what
they mean? blended? Interesting
and catch let's just call it
blended
Unknown: racist in Prince
Harry's very popular recent
memoir. He was very critical of
her and I suppose like any
blended family, let's call it
the Windsors have some
complicated relationships to
navigate. But he accused her of
feeding the press and negative
stories about him so she could
get better Press Is that likely
to contaminate how Brits feel
about her?
Well, I think there was a period
when Charles to really
rehabilitate both his own image
and that of Camilla after the
death of Diana hired a quite
resourceful, shall we say
sophisticated press secretary
who was all about making her
reputation better and making
Charles's reputation but Harry
felt strongly that he and
William was sometimes thrown
under the bus for the sake of
their father. And for Camila's
PR, you know, I think that Harry
also does very much see that
through the furious, you know
lens of being the son of you
know the beloved Diana, his
wonderful mother. The only real
misery in her life was this
figure, Camilla so it's not
really unlikely that Harry would
feel so strongly about it
because all his life he was
raised to think of her as the
enemy.
John C Dvorak: The PR woman,
then talented PR woman is still
working for them. And Tina Brown
was to it. I guess she had to
mention it
Unknown: because she has her
friends with her she's friends.
And so she
John C Dvorak: mentioned it and
you next thing I'm thinking oh,
this whole thing is a setup. The
PR woman arranged it this is
just a hagiography kind of
things. You probably pay Tina
straight from the Royal budget.
Yeah, who knows? Well, it is a
scam
Adam Curry: and I think NPR
jumped on it because they want
some of that Harry and Megan
juice. You know, because that's
been very successful. It's been
very profitable. There Netflix
show has been you know, that was
one of the top viewed Netflix
shows ever. Yeah, so they're
just going for some cheap ass
ratings. With a with a cheap
couple in a cheap ass coach is
cheap, cheap ass. It's just
cheap has been big, cheap ass
thing. All right, I gotta
lighten the mood here for a
second. I need to tell you a
little story. That was pretty
light. I know but I'm gonna go
light into heavier stuff but
through a through a more modern
a modern conflict so the old
rockers are still out and about.
And Gene Simmons, I don't know
what he's doing. But he was he
was like, Hey, if you don't get
the COVID shot you should die.
So gene gene was a dick but Paul
Stanley of Kiss he's the guitar
player key is you know did
something very controversial.
Now these guys are all have a
Stanley's gotta be almost 70
These guys are all up there. And
I know them all and they're
interesting dudes you but you
know, they're still playing the
you know, the Connecticut fair
or whatever the kids probably
does is concealed draw big
audiences. And he posted about
trans Maoism. Doors we call
that's what we call it, but in
general is about transgender
children, you know about gender
affirming care. We've talked
about this. He says my thoughts
on what I'm seeing. There's a
big difference between teaching
acceptance and normalizing and
even encouraging participation
and a lifestyle that confuses
young children into questioning
their sexual identification, as
though some sort of game and
then the parents in some cases
allow it. There are individuals
who as adults may decide
reassignment is their needed
choice. But turning this into a
game or parents normalizing it
as some sort of natural
alternative. Or believing that
because little boy likes to play
dress up in his sister clothes
or a girl in her brother's we
should lead them steps further
down a path that's far from the
innocence of what they are
doing. With many children who
have no real sense of sexuality
or sexual experience caught up
in the fun of using pronouns and
seeing what they identify as
some adults mistakenly confuse
teaching acceptance with
normalizing and encouraging a
situation that has been a
struggle for those truly
affected and if turned into a
sad and dangerous fad. Well,
slow clap Tiffany pen tap for
Paul Stanley. This is good,
right? So yes, okay, Paul, you
know, of course, you know, it's
just a tweet now. Oh, the world
comes to an end. Oh, no. Oh,
boy. Paul Stanley, what does he
say now? Parallel to this a few
weeks ago, I didn't mention on
the show because D Schneider is
a drip. Then on D Snyder is the
lead singer of Twisted Sister
that pretty much only had one
hit. We're not going to take it
and and I'm sure that he wrote
it. I don't know who else I
should have checked out who else
wrote the song. But when you
have a song like that, you can
do you get your royalties and
you know, the the song is played
over and over and over again.
It's played in venues it's
played all over the world. It's
played as an anthem for all
kinds of stuff. It's it's one of
those pits that you could it's
like like writing White
Christmas almost. The money just
always comes in a you can always
dress up with the eye makeup.
Get your get your glam on get
your high heels on because
that's what Twisted Sister was
you know the name Twisted
Sister. And you can always just
do gigs you can because all you
have to do is have 10 songs.
five songs a do we're not going
to take it three times. And
that's our show. Good night,
Connecticut. And I'm happy that
you remember. This must have
been 2010 2011 Maybe Yeah.
Howard Stern interviewed me for
Sirius X Sam, and I made a pitch
to Howard Stern. I said, Hey,
you know, I'm authorized, which
I wasn't. But we knew we could
get the money. I said, But I'm
offered to offer you Howard
Stern $100 million to leave
Syria, I think is his contract
was up for renegotiation
renegotiation to leave Sirius
XM, be come over to pod show,
and we'll make a podcasting star
out if you remember this.
John C Dvorak: I do remember
this. Yeah.
Adam Curry: In fact, we had a
big argument after this
interview, because you said it
was a horrible interview. And
they didn't mention Oh, my God,
we had a real argue I was really
John C Dvorak: well, yeah, you
got all bent out of shape. When
it was my commentary, you said
Adam Curry: that it was it was a
horrible interview. And I did
not mention no agenda once and I
was bad. And I will
John C Dvorak: say to me, yes.
Not mentioning no agenda is a
horrible interview period.
Adam Curry: Right. But it was
the first moment that that you
really hurt me. And then I said
some really hurtful things to
you. And it was it was not a
great moment for Adam. But also
you were total dick. So and but
then after that I am a total
dead. That's just what I
realized. That was the moment
I'm like, Oh, okay.
John C Dvorak: No, go on. Okay.
Adam Curry: Kara. Tito's even
doing this now. Anyway, so like
a week later, D Snyder calls me.
Hey, Adam. Hey, man. Wow. You
know, it's great. By here. John,
was Howard and Howard bibble of
the Howard. And Sal does
podcasting. Like God I could
tell me about. So I say yeah,
man. Do we have this value for
value model? Yeah, but what
about the money? Can you pay me
to do a podcast? I'm a great
podcaster I can be really good.
When I'm on Howard. I'm killing
it. I always kill it. And who is
this? Dee Snider from Twisted
Sister. Delete guy, the glam guy
the you know the glamour guy.
Yeah, and he's calling me and
he's like, he just he smells
money. He's a he's a money
whore. Hey, man. Oh yeah, I'm
always on Howard but I'm I kill
what I'm I can do a better job
than how I can do great show
better than Howard. Howard
Howard. Howard. Howard. I'm
always on Howard. Howard loves
me. I'm great that I said no.
You know, just for Howard the
money you're not Howard doll.
Come on, come on,
John C Dvorak: Howard. And so it
was really if you're not Howard.
That's what I said. Yeah, well,
that's what you Yeah, well, it's
like,
Adam Curry: well, it anyway, I
was I was like Dee Snider is a
dick is what I thought. That's
what I recall from this
conversation, but a dick. So a
few weeks ago, when more of the
oh, here comes a euphemism, or
not even a euphemism, anti trans
legislation. Meaning Tennessee
doesn't want kids to be at drag
shows in public places, you
know, minors now it seems like a
normal idea. But that is now
anti trans legislation. They
want to get rid of us. They want
to wipe us from the earth like
the Jews. They did doing the
same thing to us they did to the
gays. This is all over the news.
And he comes out and he says,
you know, this is crazy, this
anti trans legislation because I
can't even do my show in
Tennessee because it can be seen
as a drag show because you know,
he dresses up puts on the purple
eyeshadow. Fingernails painted.
He's got the high heels on it.
You know, he has one song. It's
like watching the freak show is
like Okay, so he's trying to
he's trying to jump because this
is what he is. Hey, man. I'm as
good as Howard. Hey, man, I'm as
good as all the trends shows.
I'll be great at a drag show.
I'm great.
John C Dvorak: God,
Adam Curry: you're so you
understand. You're like this
Unknown: guy. No, I
Adam Curry: don't. But you made
it clear. But you understand
what he's doing is he's trying.
He's trying to set himself up
with a popular with the popular
movement. Jumping on the band is
called bandwagon bag bandwagon.
Now remember, he has
John C Dvorak: the other the
other guy that you mentioned
earlier that had the commentary
on Twitter, when he finished it
off by saying it's a fad of this
fad thing? And I think that's
correct. I think this is a fad
and they will come and go.
Adam Curry: Which is exactly why
a D Schneider jumps on the fad.
Like oh, oh is a fad. I can get
in on by the way. I've got a
great song for the trans
community. We're not gonna take
it. I would like to say one of
the best glam rock songs ever no
doubt about it. Great song. was
now 40 years of children have
used this as their rebellion
song. Nothing wrong with that,
but that's what you got, bro.
That's all you got. And now
you're jumping on on the trans
band the trans fat bank
bandwagon. But then all the kid
all the rock guys are going Hey,
hey, Dee Snider? No, no, no, no,
no, no, no, we're not on board
with that. We're gonna Bud Light
your ass man. We don't like
this. No. No, you just you could
have that song, we'll go we'll
rock out to you. But we don't
we're not on board with the
trans stuff. Not the way it's
being portrayed. So he then
idiot, he, oh, I've got to
adjust everything. Um, what am I
gonna do? So he then tweets
something to Paul Stanley. And
this is now the subject of some
great controversy. This is local
news from San Francisco.
Unknown: San Francisco pride is
distancing itself from twisted
sisters D Snyder, after the
singer defended anti trans
tweets made by former kissing or
Paul Stanley.
Adam Curry: I love that this
report, by the way is going to
be my evergreen, nothing like
this effeminate gay guy doing
this report about these two old
rock guys, and this is this is
peak trans bullshit.
Unknown: This is a bit
confusing, but let me start with
Stanley's tweet, which was sent
on Sunday, and in a nutshell, It
criticizes parents who accept
their children who are
questioning their gender
identities. So here's what
happened with Schneider.
Schneider saw this tweet
retweeted it and added this. You
know what, there was a time
where I felt pretty too glad my
parents didn't jump to any rash
conclusions. Well said Paul
Stanley.
Adam Curry: So are you still
with me? You still wouldn't know
what's going on here. And this
saga
John C Dvorak: was getting
funny. So
Adam Curry: show now so now
pride San Francisco is mad.
They're mad. And there's a
reason for it. It was all secret
we didn't know this was
happening behind the scenes. But
Indy Snyder's infinite wisdom
and his never ending quest to
jump on the latest fad, whether
it's podcasting or pro trans or
anti trans pee now screwed up so
bad that the Trans Pride
community is mad.
Unknown: And here's where pride
comes into this conversation.
Pride had been set to announce
Twisted Sister song we're not
going to take it as the official
NFM of pride 2023
Adam Curry: So this is money in
the bank for D to have the whole
pride community adopting we're
not going to take it this would
blow life into that song. This
is another $100,000 A year Easy.
Easy because he wrote it he owns
it this is his This is his his
moneymaker shake that
moneymaker. But he pissed off
the wrong people.
Unknown: The wrong people.
Joining us now with the latest
on this saga is Suzanne for the
executive director of SF pride.
Hi, Susan.
Adam Curry: I ready for Suzanne.
No.
Unknown: Good morning, Reggie.
So you all disclosure here. You
are ready to roll out with the
Snyder interviews with the
media. It was under embargo. But
in a few days, you are going to
announce this partnership with D
Schneider and with this song. So
what was your reaction when you
saw this tweet?
Adam Curry: So I'm just gonna be
brutally honest here. Just
because you don't have video.
This is this is me. He may have
transitioned fully, but this is
a dude. Sharon, Rachel, whatever
his name is, and any of the
mannerisms. It's not just it's a
dude. It could be in Twisted
Sister. So the whole thing is
just blow my mind now. But the
business of it is this really
has screw Dee Snider has screwed
himself so badly with this.
Unknown: I was made me sick. I
mean, we were just I mean, we
were on the cusp of making this
announcement on D. Schneider was
going to appear on the mainstage
at SF pride and he was going to
be in the in the parade as a
celebrity Grand Marshal. And of
course we cannot. We cannot
stand by his statements. We have
to stand up and say that was
wrong and we can't be had to end
our association with him.
How did this begin to do
Schneider approach you and pride
and offer the song?
Well, we'd been looking for a
way to stand up to all this hate
out in the country, the anti
trans legislation, the anti
queer legislation
Adam Curry: and anti queer
legislation. This is new.
John C Dvorak: What specific
anti queer knowledge?
Adam Curry: I don't even know
what what it is. We can't even
define what is it? I don't know.
I don't know. It's I don't know.
Unknown: Well, we've been
looking for a way to stand up to
all this hate out in the
country, the anti trans
legislation, the anti queer
legislation, and we were looking
for a slogan and our PR team, I
said, this is what we need to
say. And they said, Well, why
don't we just say we're not
going to take it and that
started the process. And we did
reach out to their people. And D
was great. He called me and
said, Hey, you can use this
song. That's what this song
should stand for. And then of
course, he preempted that with
his statements supporting Paul
Stanley.
Have you talked to D since this
tweet came out?
I did. I had a painful
discussion. sitting with him
yesterday and fall. I think he
realizes that he was wrong. He
thought he was taking a moderate
stance when it when it comes to
self identification for trans
people. There's no moderate
stance we need to believe our
trans kids when they tell us
about their gender.
Adam Curry: Oh, there it is. We
need to believe our trans kids
when they tell us about our
gender. Okay, let's hear from
one of the trans kids Katie
Lennon. And Katie Lennon tells
her story.
Unknown: It's like many children
and teens today I identified
myself as transgender for years.
And when I started to feel
confused and ashamed about my
developing body, I asked
everyone in my life to call me
by a new name, and use male
pronouns to refer to me. So in
other words, I went through a
social transition from female to
male, everyone in my life
immediately affirmed my new
identity either out of full
support for it or just to stay
neutral and not cause any
issues. But the constant
affirmation both active and
passive, solidified me and my
transgender identity, no one
meant to lock me into an
identity that would later leave
me broken or shamed and more
confused than before. They were
really all just being nice. But
the social transition eventually
wasn't enough. And I soon felt I
needed to take testosterone. And
when that wasn't enough, I had a
double mastectomy. And when that
still wasn't enough, I had a
total hysterectomy, including
the removal of my uterus,
cervix, fallopian tubes and both
ovaries. There's no point of
contentment during a gender
transition. We get fleeting
moments of euphoria, but
ultimately one step leads
straight into the next. And I
thought that in the end, I could
really become a man but all I
became was a mutilated and
abused version of my old self.
social transition is a big deal.
And we're lying when we say that
any of this is reversible. This
is a big decision with lifelong
consequences. And New Hampshire
doesn't even require that
parents be involved. If the
roles of mother and father don't
include authority over the
emotional, social and physical
future of their children, the
roles no longer mean anything.
Like me, transgender,
identifying youth have a high
risk for depression. The Trevor
Project, which is an LGBT
advocacy group, reports that 45%
of LGBT teens have seriously
considered attempting suicide in
the past year. More than half of
that number is transgender,
identifying youth, teachers and
school administrators are
mandated reporters, if a child
is suspected to be four times
more likely to attempt suicide
than the other students his age,
his parents have a right to
know.
Adam Curry: So this is all
coming from the schools. We've
discussed this. And there's a
slogan that I learned the other
day when the campus when the
world, that's what's going on
here. And even even Bill Maher
is now seeing this for what it
is what we identified correctly,
when we first went down this
road of what is happening with
transgender activism and removal
of parents rights, allowing
children to be literally
captured. I have just story
makers that captured by the
state captured by the law. I'll
read a little bit of this, one
of our producers. He's from
Colorado, I think you you
probably saw this note as well.
I've been below the radar for
past three plus years because
I've been living the COVID Trans
Maoist nightmare with my
daughter, I don't even know
where to start. And if I did, my
note will be too long for you to
even read and you guys know how
much I can write. And my efforts
to save my daughter and kids
like her. I've been exposed to
human trafficking, illegal drug
dealers, mental health
institutions, social services,
law enforcement, district
attorneys, politicians, all the
way to Governor's School
Administrators, mental health
and professionals and doctors
and psychiatrists, I can truly
say all these groups with the
exception of law enforcement are
in on the CO opting our kids
from their parents. Some are
useful idiots for the
politicians and bureaucrats
pushing their mouse agenda, but
it's the ones that are aware of
what they're doing that are
truly despicable. So I'm gonna
go to his quick list here. That
explains the process that
happened to his daughter who was
able to save but it's it's a
horrible story. I put it on the
show notes. I've taken out
everybody's names and these
notes. Here's here's the process
that he calls legalizing state
sponsored genital mutilation.
One higher radical teachers for
indoctrination, reduce age of
Colorado, reduce age of consent
for medical care, like abortions
to 15 without parental consent.
allow children to consent for
medical care at 12. Without
parent knowledge or consent
passed laws requiring state
employees including teachers to
use any bizarre pronoun, offer
medical and mental health care
in schools without parental
consent. Governor encourages
kids to inject mRNA poison in
their bodies without parental
consent, require mental health
assessment for kids 12 and
older, overriding parental
objections and not informing
parents of any care after birth
abortions for kids as young as
12 without parental consent also
come to Colorado and will abort
your baby genital mutilation and
puberty blockers for kids
without parental consent in
violation of a UN resolution.
exposing yourself to a minor is
now just a ticket not passed yet
is lowering the age of consent
for sexual contact to 11
including with adults yes Pete
of pedophilia that he goes on
and on And on on. And he he
saved his daughter, but it's a
harrowing, harrowing story. And
I'm just getting, again, email
after email from parents and no
agenda nation who have been
exposed to this and are trying
to protect their kids. So what
is it on one hand? Yes, it is
exactly what we've discussed.
The Bill Maher said, which is
Maoism.
Unknown: Yesterday, I asked chat
and GPT Are there any
similarities between today's
woke revolution and Chairman
Mao's cultural revolution of the
1960s? And it wrote back how
long do you have? Because,
again, in China, we saw how a
revolutionary thought he could
do a page one rewrite of humans
now ordered his citizens to
throw off the four olds, old
thinking old culture, old
customs and old habits. So your
whole life went in the garbage
overnight, no biggie. And those
who resisted, were attacked by
an army of purifiers called the
Red Guard who went around the
country putting dunce caps on
people. Yeah, who didn't take to
being a new kind of mortal
being. A lot of pointing and
shaming went on. Oh, and about a
million dead. And the only way
to survive was to plead insanity
for the crime of being
insufficiently radical then
apologize and thank the state
and of course submit to re
education or as we call it here
in America freshman orientation.
Adam Curry: So even Bill Maher
sees what's going on? And yes,
it is. It is to a great degree
political as our parent their
points out that the politicians
anything, anything to make the
Republicans look the worst.
Anything call them Christian.
Was it. Christian radicals? No,
not radicals? No, it was not
fascist, Christian fascist. No
anti trans legislation. They
hate children, because this is
gender affirming care. Well, you
just heard from that young girl
what gender affirming care is,
but now we go to Dr. Meg Meeker
's podcast just to you one clip
from from her. And she is
talking to Irene Erickson. And
this is, as she asked a
question, which I think is a
pretty good one. Why is this
really happening in America? As
we know, this is being stopped
in other countries,
specifically, the countries
where it started, which was the
Netherlands but Sweden, France,
the UK? So what is going on? Why
is this happening to this degree
in the United States,
Unknown: honestly, and truly,
I've been practicing for 30 some
years. And I think maybe in 25
years, I saw one genuine
transgender child, but something
happened in the US and there was
an explosion, and we'll talk
about that a little bit later.
Why does the US approach it
differently than other
countries?
That's a great question. It's a
great question.
Adam Curry: And in fact, may
actually be the only great
question that
Unknown: is political is my
observation. It's not based on
the on the science, in fact that
you know that the United Kingdom
had the largest pediatric gender
clinic in the world, the
Tavistock clinic, and they
commissioned an independent
review of the research evidence
about this kind of protocol that
I just described, and what were
the effects? And what was the
evidence, how good was the
research evidence in terms of
quality, and based on their
review, just in the last two
months, they have done a 180
degree, turn around, they've
closed that clinic, and they
have said, we do not recommend
this is the National Health
Service in Great Britain, we do
not recommend social transition
for children and we are not
going to prescribe puberty
blockers or cross sex hormones,
or surgery for minors, unless
they are part of a study we have
approved that is set up to
evaluate the effects. And this
same kind of a cautionary
approach is seen in Sweden. Just
to quote you what the Swedish
National Board of Health says,
For adolescents the risks of
puberty suppressing treatment
and gender affirming hormonal
treatments are currently
outweigh the possible benefits
based on continued lack of
reliable scientific evidence
concerning the efficacy and the
safety of both treatments. So
the US is really out of step now
with what's happening
internationally. And, you know,
it does beg the question of why.
Adam Curry: So she says it's
political. And of course it is.
But it's the schools where this
is all starting. And I took a
deep dive because I want to know
about the studies because
everywhere I read from the New
York Times, via gender affirming
medical care has been proven,
proven to be very beneficial. So
I found an article from
Psychology Today because it is
the therapist, it's the
therapists who are reeling these
children in, if they don't care
therapist, and this is it. This
is from the New York Times
pointed to from the New York
Times as the evidence for trans
youth gender affirming medical
care. Research suggests gender
affirming medical care results
in better mental health 16
studies to date have been
examined the examining the
impact of gender affirming
medical care for transgender
youth, existing evidence
suggests that gender affirming
medical care results in
favorable mental health
outcomes. All all major medical
organizations oppose legislation
that would ban gender affirming
medical care for chant
transgender adolescence. John,
every single one of these
studies, is from 2020. Every
single one, and all of them with
55 people, 60 people, they're
all from 2020, all during the
lockdown, not a single one. Has
any has been studied anything
earlier than 2020. This and with
this, they say Oh, well, but you
know, that's enough. One will
notice this article says there
have not been any randomized
controlled trials. Oh, but it
still sounds like it's a valid
trial. There's a general
consensus in the field that such
a trial would be unethical given
the body of literature we have
so far indicating that those in
the control group will be likely
to suffer adverse mental health
outcomes compared to those
randomized to the treatment
groups. For this reason, it
appears that no institutional
review board would approve a
randomized controlled trial at
this time, under the principle
of equipoise equipoise to which
some bioethicists refer. I don't
know what that all means, but it
seems to me like these trials
are bull. In summary, I'd
John C Dvorak: have to look at
the trials and who paid for him
to get a real handle on it, I
believe.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes, I did not
I did not go that deep. But if
you look at the the synopsis
here a lot of them are Dutch
puberty suppression and
adolescents with gender identity
disorder as prospect follow up
study, Journal of Sexual
Medicine, okay, by on what that
is. Young adults, psychological
outcome after puberty,
suppression and gender
reassignment, pediatrics, psycho
psychological support, puberty
suppression, and psycho psycho
social functioning in
adolescence. It's all Journal of
Sexual Medicine. So,
John C Dvorak: you know, but all
in is the exact same journal.
There's no outside journals.
Adam Curry: There. Here's the
Nordic Journal of Psychiatry,
it's all psychological. They're
not. That doesn't seem to even
be medical trials. It's all
about the psychology. But that's
what the New York Times points
to is proof that this stuff
works. And it's great. So I'm
very, very skeptical,
particularly because if not,
we've there had been people
transitioning having what used
to be called a sex change
operation for decades. But no,
none of that seems to be very
important. And then we have the
media. We have the media, and I
played I got a great
deconstruction from one of our
producers. I want to play this
Kara Swisher clip again. Because
you know, she's a lesbian. So
you know, she's she's an expert
on all things. And of course,
she takes us all to the
political realm as well, just to
play replay this from the last
show. And the other thing
Unknown: is, did he just I think
underestimated. Florida has a
really robust and wonderful gay
community. And they drive a lot
of business. There's, I mean,
there's whole parts. I've spent
a lot of time in Key West and
the gay community is thriving
there and I just can't at some
point the demo and democracy
does kick in here.
One would assume but I'm
thinking of the why Mar Republic
where it was a huge Berlin gay
community and then they killed
them. So you know, I think it
could go a lot of terrible ways,
but I would agree this is dumb.
This is so
escalated fast.
Haven't you seen cabaret?
Haven't you'd seen it? Every
Berlin stories.
Yeah, you're right. People think
it couldn't happen here. I can I
agree.
They can come at you. But I do
not think that that's where the
country is in a different way
from much. We've have obviously
a much more vibrant democracy, a
much more diverse democracy than
they hadn't Weimar Republic, and
they had all kinds of economic
issues, postwar, fall kinds of
differences, but they can come
at you. When I when I told you
they were going to come at 12th
graders, you'd said no, they're
not as young kids. And I was
like, no, they're not. It's
everybody they're trying to do
trying to win what they lost
back. And they will do they will
stop at nothing. They never go
away. They're like mold these
people.
Adam Curry: So our producer
sends me this short note which I
wanted to share because I think
he did a much better job than we
did on deconstructing what this
woman said. I'm listening to the
podcast just heard the Swisher
Galloway clip and the psychology
of it disturbed me. First of
all, she mentioned the gay
community in Weimar, Germany was
thriving, and then they killed
them. This is incorrect. The
Republic had laws against
homosexuality, but they were
rarely enforced, hence the
thriving community. It was the
Nazis who killed the gays
shortly after their rise to
power, not the why Mr. Republic.
So the comparison to Florida is
actually very apt. Since the
thriving community there is not
in danger from Florida, but from
the people trying to subvert
Florida. Moreover, she then went
on to describe her political
opponents by saying they never
go away. They're like mold of
these people. That is exactly
the way Hitler talked about his
victims. In his books and his
speeches, he always referred to
them as an infection or
infestation that needed to be
cleansed. This woman is deeply
disturbed and should be
surrounded by trained
professionals with butterfly
nets before her career in art
fails.
A Jhansi Dvorak protege I'm
right had
John C Dvorak: blaming me for
everything. So yes, yeah, good
points is it's a that's a good
analysis. I agree with it.
Adam Curry: Then I have just a
few more follow ups here.
Because, you know, as we pointed
out, this also really does come
from during the lockdown when
kids were on screens, screen
screen screens. And this is
where they got subverted. They
got subverted by social media.
And they were they were booked.
Do you think the parents were
not feeling good in the
lockdown? No, everyone felt very
anxious. And then then they
didn't feel good. And teenage
girls already have problems with
feeling good about themselves.
And they were subverted by it.
Unknown: Yes, I
John C Dvorak: want to ask you a
bit while you're out just before
you do this. Because it comes to
mind. A rhetorical question. The
commentary about the kids on
screens during the lockdown and
not going to school, not going
to school, not going to class,
not socializing. But they're
being on the screen all the
time. They're on at home
homeschooling, they were getting
their lessons. They were getting
the teachers were there. They
were telling him to do this and
read this and do that and do
this and that. And it turns out
that all you hear now is Oh,
because of that the kids are two
years behind. So in other words,
this screen time and all the
learning from home and all the
rest of it was useless. Then if
that's true, which is seems to
be that's what they're
complaining about, then why is
working from home so good, boo.
It's not. It can't be not if you
base it on what happened during
that lockdown.
Adam Curry: We had. This was
last summer, one of the one of
the daughters was visiting and
she had some of her friends from
New York. They also were in
Austin for some reason. And
these, I think, like three guys,
probably two of them two or
three, or maybe all three gay, I
don't know. But they were like,
you know, lawyers. Like high end
like intellectual jobs, and they
came out and they're hanging out
in the pool. And they literally
would set their laptops up
because they were working from
home. They set up their laptops,
and they had all these little
programs that move the mouse to
make it look like they were
working. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Isn't
that cool? Oh, yeah, it's very
fun, from time to time to go and
just even you know, do a little
something open a document just
to make sure that look like
because you know, it's all
tracked by it. And we got a note
from Alex Jennison. Want to
follow up a couple items at the
school I work at in New York,
New York State is ot jeep. Off
the Grid. Families of students
must pledge to limit smart
devices, time time spent on
them, etc. Many of our students
even high school, this is
northern Academy. Many of our
students even high schoolers
have zero access to social
media. We are even punishing to
limit laptops. pushing to limit
locked laptops in the classroom
and return to books and paper.
Check us out at North
academy.org. In my five years
here we've had in total, one
suicide less than five students
medicated for add ADHD,
depression, etc. Zero students
on IEP plans. I don't know what
that what is IEP. All students
learn together, look it up, it's
probably for special ed, I look
it up, I look at it IEP plans,
all students learn together. And
we do not discriminate based on
diagnosis or perceived
differences. Zero trans in
students, zero trans students.
John C Dvorak: If there's not
even come up in class ever. As
far as I know, we've had one
student who identified as
homosexual, again accepted but
not promoted. The individualized
education plan. There you go.
Being doctrine developed to
ensure a child who has a
disability identified under the
law and is attending an
Elementary Secondary of kids for
this for the disabled kids.
Adam Curry: We are a boarding
and day school, send your kids
but really any parents who are
interested can reach out to me
on Mastodon and it's breakfasty
at no agenda social.com br A br
a HPHECY. Let's help save the
850,000 listeners in their
children. I wholeheartedly
believe our schools here in New
York can help change some of
these trends. So just so you
know, that by the way, it's
probably an Epoch Times NTD
related outfit, because they
know how bad it can be. This is
so they have almost none of the
issues that we hear of that are
rampant without the screens.
This is without the screens. So
we have another email from
Mason, I heard the show want to
share my experience around
children's screens and phones.
My wife and I have a 20 month
old son who has kept almost
entirely screen free no children
shows no YouTube, no phones, no
iPads. Only screen use would be
when we have a sports game on
but he isn't interested in that
20 month old, we've noticed that
he's less interested in our
phones and other toddlers we've
seen perhaps because he doesn't
know all the fun things a phone
can have. Having said that he is
still interested in our phones,
because we're interested because
we're interested in our phones,
he is clearly picking up on it.
Quick note on low screen kids,
almost everyone who meets our
son comments on his ability to
play creatively with simple toys
by himself and his engagement
with us and other adults. It's
hard not to use screens as a
crutch with kids and it takes
purpose. But there are very real
benefits start showing up almost
immediately. And you're come
several weeks ago after seeing
him more and more interested in
my phone, I switched to a light
phone to the light phone.com and
put my iPhone in a drawer. I did
this both to unhook myself from
my device as well as to help my
son have a normal life abnormal
by today's standards. The
results have been immediate for
both of us, I'm less interested
in my phone, and he's not
interested at all, the phone has
a black and white E Ink screen
very limited functionality. So
there's no draw for me or for
the child, I was anxious to
switch at first. But after
getting it up and running, I
felt immediately freed from it
all I share this because the
light phone might be a good tool
for others and get donation both
in curbing their own addictions
to these apps and for allowing
older kids to have the ability
to communicate without giving
them access to anything online.
So I ordered one, I ordered a
low light phone and when it
comes in, I'll do a full review.
But I think we've talked about
it before and the OTG days. And
I'm thinking if you want to save
your child here, here, here's a
list of things that I would like
to suggest you give to your
kids. I like phone too, because
you can call you can text and
it's not you know, punching in
the number five times it has a
little actual keyboard. And
there's no no camera. It does
have directions, you can listen
to podcasts, and you can use it
as a hotspot. And with that give
your kid a laptop. Teach your
kid how to put Linux Mint on it
to the kid has an understanding
that you control the device does
not control you. Give your kid a
high quality standalone camera.
John, would you like to give
any? Any suggestions because you
you always use these cameras?
John C Dvorak: Well any camera
from Olympus I'd say would be a
good standalone camera little
ones. Or if you want to just you
know bite the bullet and buy a
Nikon one of the ones using an
AP SC one of the bigger sensors
but a Four Thirds sensor is also
good or full frame but those
costs too much. So forget that
just
Adam Curry: a little thing you
put in your pocket and you have
the
John C Dvorak: million of these
and then
Adam Curry: you take it home
then you blowed it onto your
laptop with Linux Mint and you
can choose stuff and then
John C Dvorak: apparently it
takes a better picture generally
speaking than a phone can Yeah,
but it's generally
Adam Curry: you can take
pictures but you're not doing
selfies, not doing selfies and
you can't get on social media.
Then parents I would recommend
you look at an unroll or start
nine home server um so you can
give your kid you know, some
some stuff that you know they're
gonna have their own little chat
room in there. friends that you
can monitor. And if you don't
know what that is go to get
umbral.com It's all free, then
you should also give your kid a
handheld, two meter ham radio.
And both of you take the test,
take the test. I mean those,
take the test, take the test,
and you should encourage their
friends to do this so they can
talk to each other over
distances. Because $35 for these
little things, give them a
library card. Get them a dog and
an AR 15 and teach them how to
use it
John C Dvorak: in probably a
pocket protector.
Unknown: Yeah, okay, it's fine.
You're gonna
John C Dvorak: be a ham. You
might as well have one
Adam Curry: I would rather my
kid be a nerd than then then any
any alternative, any
alternative. And then finally,
know that you have power to stop
this insanity. And it is
happening. And it's
unbelievable. I didn't think it
would. I didn't think it would
happen. But the Bud Light
boycott is making a difference.
The numbers are in sales are
down 26% There's a poll done.
I'm not big on polls. This is a
Rasmussen poll, which is also of
course, like a bright wing right
leaning outfit. But the numbers
are clear. That Budweiser and
Bud Light is suffering
significantly. They cannot bring
themselves to apologize. I mean,
I went out was talking to my
John C Dvorak: buddy stop. This
is this is an interesting point.
They can't bring themselves to
apologize. They're afraid
they're going to offend someone
by apologizing. Yep. We didn't
do anything wrong. Well, that's
Adam Curry: that's that's the
worst
Unknown: part.
Adam Curry: They're, you know,
they're they're saying well, you
know, it was just one single can
that remember we've talked about
this it's the it's the
distributors the local
distributors own the business.
And these people are mad.
Because they the bars are saying
no, no, I'm not on one Bud
Light. We're boycotting them.
Tommy, who helped me we lost a
tree during that big storm. He's
he comes over with his with his
chainsaw and he's gonna go out
and talk with Tom. He's from
Waco. Originally. The N and they
Oh, no, I'm not. I'm not
drinking Bud Light. says you
know what else I'm not doing?
I'm not I'm not buying Nike
shoes anymore. And Tommy is 63
Amy has his helper Ryan he's 28
and Ryan's out nope, nope, nope.
Nope. Not doing it.
John C Dvorak: Were they Bud
Light drinkers before
Adam Curry: they were but what
they were they would drink
Budweiser I don't know if they
drank Bud Light but they're
boycotting all Budweiser
products and all I know is
Anheuser Busch products in
general and they know it they
know exactly what beers are
under the InBev brand and the
nope know what screw those guys
and they're taking and they're
taking a stand and it's working
is working and this and what's
happening is now the marketing
community they are freaking out
because influencers that was the
business oh yeah influencers wow
they're all over Tik Tok.
They're all over Instagram
they're Oh, he has his how we
get our word out but all and
that's why they gave this stupid
Dylan Mulvaney Yeah, his own can
he could tout that
Unknown: you blow your nose.
Adam Curry: And, and now all of
these marketing departments can
be like holy crap, because you
know the VP of Marketing at bud
got fired. She's on leave now
she got fired, then it was not
it was not even the Denon
Mulvaney thing so much. It was
the well, it's a tired old
arrogance. ratty brand. Yeah,
the
John C Dvorak: arrogance, the
arrogance of it, then marketing
arrogance is the worst, the
Adam Curry: incredible arrogance
of it all. And so keep it up
boycott. This is this is the
American power. And I don't know
if Anheuser Busch can recover.
Because this is this is
sticking. This is sticking and
Coors and other brands that are
non InBev are mysteriously going
up. It's really going up now. So
with all this, of course, you
know, what do you do about all
what I mean? It's social media
is the problem. screen phones
are the problem. There's there's
an article Gen Z years are
snapping up flip phones, Wall
Street Journal. You know, I
don't know, you know, we've seen
these trends before, but some of
the kids are like, I'm sick of
this stuff. So, you know, it
also is too expensive. The dumb
phones, the light phone 299
Seems like a good deal. I'll do
a review of that. But you know,
what I think ultimately, parents
need to take responsibility,
just as this email said, they're
the ones who are hooked on their
phones. You've got to get off
your phone, you've got to get a
light phone. You've got to
change your ways because your
kids are seeing it. And you need
to be aware of what they're
doing. Be aware of the social
media network. So that's why
don't give them a phone for it.
Let them do it at home on the
laptops, you can look along. You
look over their shoulder. Kids
are always gonna do weird stuff
they don't know about but you
have to be more involved. You
can't just say, No, I don't
understand what you're doing
scrolling on about tick tock,
you morons. And of course, I
read our legislators. They have
all these dumb ideas, which will
now be arguing about forever
Unknown: a showdown over social
media for kids. As the US
Federal Trade Commission accuses
Mehta parent company of Facebook
and Instagram of misusing the
personal data of its youngest
users.
Facebook has repeatedly violated
its privacy promises, the
company's recklessness has put
young users at risk, and
Facebook needs to answer for its
failures.
In 2019, Facebook agreed to pay
a $5 billion civil penalty over
data privacy practices in the
wake of the Cambridge analytical
scandal. The FTC though says the
company has not lived up to its
commitments in that settlement,
alleging that children under 13
are still able to chat with
parentally unapproved contacts,
and that the company is still
passing private data to unused
third party apps. It's proposed
sanctions include a total ban on
meta monetizing the data of
under eight teams a pause on the
launch of new products pending
compliance review and limits on
the use of facial recognition
technology. Meanwhile, a
bipartisan group of US Senators
is calling for a total ban on
social media for kids 12 And
under
the technology industry is going
to find all sorts of innovative
ways to try to squash this bill
because you know, this is their
this is their profit center our
kids and promoting really
dangerous content often to our
kids,
medicines. The FTC is latest
move is a political stunt
accusing the regulator of
overstepping its authority the
company has 30 days to formally
respond
Adam Curry: and the reason why
none of this works now this will
happen and why why social
networks and social media is
always going to be around is
because the lib Jo's love it.
The liberal journalists love all
journalist probably but the lib
Jo's of the worst though we live
and we're not Ill screw Ilan,
we're going to mess it down. And
then there were a mastodon like,
well, we don't we kneel. It's
not exactly the way we like it.
And we can't find people and we
can't count all of our our views
and our likes. And here we go to
the rescue. Jack Dorsey releases
blue sky Have you been following
blue sky?
John C Dvorak: I've only heard
about it. So by God, a blue sky
Adam Curry: invites. Thank you
very much one of our producers
gave that to me. And I'll just
give you the technical
background because this is not
discussed blue sky, the idea of
blue skies it kind of works like
Mastodon, where you have your
identity or like nostril as
well. You have your identity and
that is yours. And you can use
this day to check into different
neighborhoods or different
servers, but you can be
federated across the entire
platform. So not a single
reporters reporting on what it
actually is. But what they did
is all Oh, this is great. This
is like Twitter without Elon has
got an invite. Invite. Invite
the 11 Invite. Oh, Jake Tapper
is on there. Oh, yeah. AOC is on
that. Oh, yes. This is great.
Oh, it's an outlet everybody
show her boobs. Okay, everybody
show your butt. Okay, the trans
movement is here. And all the
lib Jo's love it you know why?
Because you can quote tweet.
There all the whole platform is
one lib Joe.
Unknown: smorgasbord. And so
they're they're
Adam Curry: abandoning Mastodon
as quick as they can. Trying to
build they're creating their own
language. Yes, they're not
tweets. They're Skeets but
they're not tweets. They're
Skeets you know, blue sky ski.
John C Dvorak: They're actually
Daxing calling him skeet. Yes,
yes, I
Unknown: know. I know.
John C Dvorak: Holy moly.
Adam Curry: So I can just I can
I have to I have to give you one
of my code. You must you have to
witness it. This is better than
the secret Mastodon server we
have. It is they are so insane.
And so they're all going to
flock to this. This is the new
Oh, this is the new thing. It's
much better than the land
Twitter. Jake Tapper. Skeets the
AI has such a weird take on my
face. I mean, everyone is just
gushing over how great this is.
And this is the new Twitter. So
they're gonna
John C Dvorak: say we'll look
into it
Adam Curry: now and I'll give
you a give you my give me a
bytecode I only have one more.
I'll give you my input and
that's in your it's a big hole.
How many invite code up Well you
need moderation oh yeah now
there's they're talking about
how they need to moderate so
keep keep children away from
from journalists, I would say
there's another good keep them
away from journalists keep them
away from news in general. You
know what listen to the no
agenda show and that'll be good
for him. And you know what? You
know what you should teach your
children value for value.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, have them
donate.
Adam Curry: With I'd like to
thank you for your courage to
say in the morning to you the
man who put the sea in chat GPT
ladies and gentlemen say hello
to my friend on the other end,
Mr. John
John C Dvorak: Mr. Adam curry
also in the morning, little
ships at sea boots on the
ground, feet near subs in the
water all the names. Let's
measure them right away
Adam Curry: before they run
away. We're late today, we only
have one segment. For reasons
which will be obvious, although
we have some longer notes 1914
today. I know that doesn't seem
like a lot. People are
abandoning us John
John C Dvorak: gets about 100
higher than usual.
Adam Curry: Oh, really?
John C Dvorak: But yeah, this is
not Sunday.
Adam Curry: Oh, it's Thursday.
Yeah, of course. I say well,
well, those are the trolls are
in the troll room. And you
couldn't find them a troll
room.io. Or if you have one of
those brand new podcast apps,
you dump on the legacy stuff,
the ones where you know that
your favorite podcast just might
go away because someone decided
they didn't like it. And they
removed it from Spotify or Apple
John C Dvorak: even you know,
even the guys on Spotify are all
saying that everybody says this
app does wherever you get your
podcast from. Which was not to
interrupt a segment. But I do
have a What's wrong with
podcasting bit?
Unknown: Oh, well, let's look
well,
Adam Curry: hold on. Let me
finish this and I'm gonna play
the clip because that's what the
donation segment is for. It's
for interviews with guests. And
for for clips.
John C Dvorak: Clips, like this
one. Okay, so finish what you
were doing.
Unknown: Yes, era? Yes,
Adam Curry: yes. Yeah, you throw
me off my game. When you do that
stuff. Go to podcast apps.com.
Grab yourself a modern podcast
app. Now there are a couple that
have this troll room feature in
it. It's pod verse, curio
caster, podcast addict, podcast
guru with more coming. And
you'll be alerted just like, you
know, just like a bad signal and
you can pop right in all your
podcasts will be there,
including the no agenda Show
podcast, but also the live
podcast and more and more
podcasts are doing this. This is
the cool thing. You want to be a
part of that for sure. Now, you
can also follow us at no agenda
social.com I kicked that guy off
iron Iron Hide whatever his name
was. Yeah, guy. Yeah. And now he
keeps trying to come in. Evans.
He's pleased to be he's like
he's posting all kinds of
horrible things about us.
Unknown: Like what? Like we're
Adam Curry: well we're
homophobic. You know, we were
boring. We're old. We're stupid.
You know that kind of stuff.
John C Dvorak: Oh gosh, I'm I
don't know what to do.
Adam Curry: Well, but he insults
people all the time. And the
thing that he overt he look, I
don't like kicking people off.
Normally just ignore them or
block them but I tried to calm
him down in a private
conversation. Then he started
posting all
John C Dvorak: right, you get
rid of him. He's no Giza. No
good, Nick.
Adam Curry: Exactly. No good,
Nick. Exactly. By the way, big
shout out to nick the rat. He
had what we call a great get
yesterday. A great get, which is
a great guest. Did you hear the
guest he had? Yeah, my wife.
Yes. Mimi Dvorak. Did you get
your book? Not only do we get
the book, we love our book, too
many eggs too many eggs.com. And
we will be discussing it. I'm
carrying the keeper. Because
there's no good there's been an
egg controversy in the family
for a long time. And we and we
have as it solves by the book.
Yes, it is all by the book. I
don't know if I'm happy with it.
But yeah, it's off the books.
John C Dvorak: So what didn't go
your way? to controvert
controversial.
Adam Curry: It's big. It's a big
ass book. What does that thing
cost? If you buy the book? I
know you can download the PDF
for free
John C Dvorak: because $48 I
think is that's a that's a good
value. Yeah, it's actually we're
under pricing. It's kind of like
we're also giving away a free
PDF. Yeah. And so I mean, we're
in it to to lose money. So
people should take advantage
sounds like a podcast. I like
your eggs.com and get a free PDF
copy of
Adam Curry: quality of this
book. And the hardcover is like
a Tashan book.
John C Dvorak: You know what I
mean? Like more than you don't
want to touch him book is No, I
don't know what No, no dough is
a term.
Adam Curry: Tasha is a publisher
and they do these beautiful
coffee table books big size with
a hardcover. I know it's a it's
not like it doesn't look like a
self published book. See crap is
nice. And then it looks it looks
beautiful rose. Yeah, it looks
beautiful.
John C Dvorak: We know how to do
this this work.
Adam Curry: Look, if you want to
interrupt me, I'm trying to hype
the book up. No,
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. Keep
going. What am I doing? I'm an
idiot.
Adam Curry: And I also would
like everyone to, to pray for
our clip custodian son, Seamus,
who had to go in for emergency
chemo. It's really shitty. So we
want prayers for for Seamus,
please.
Unknown: Thank you all very
much. Good note. Yes.
John C Dvorak: All right. Oh, he
too many A's dot com. Just check
it out and get a free copy.
Adam Curry: Great book. It's a
great book. Well, there you go.
There's our business model.
Yeah, we just need to make
products.
John C Dvorak: This product is
high quality. Things take care
of themselves. Yes, exactly. And
listening to one of the podcasts
that are just, which is loaded
is one of the spin off podcasts
and it's loaded with with ads
for other podcasts. Oh, what
podcast is this? And so this is
an ad for Alec Baldwin's
podcast. And I want you to
listen to you think this. This
is a guy that's not geared to be
a podcaster he can barely read
the simple copy. It just doesn't
make any sense. You know, he's
they've tried to put him on TV
to be an interviewer and he
thinks he's a really good
interviewer. But but just listen
to this.
Unknown: Hey, it's Alec Baldwin,
this past season on my podcast.
Here's the thing. I spoke with
more actors, musicians,
policymakers, and so many other
fascinating people, like actress
and director, Cheryl Hines. They
were looking for an unknown
actress to play Larry, David's
wife. I said, Well, how old is
that guy? Isn't he? Listen to
the new season of here's the
thing on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple podcasts or wherever you
get your podcasts.
John C Dvorak: This guy's a
professional entertainer.
Adam Curry: Yeah, he's he's an
NPR like, guy. That's what he
thinks a podcast should be. No.
I mean, he's like, I have to
talk like this. I'm Alex
Baldwin.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you
probably right. Not probably. I
just thought that was the worst
promotion for a podcast ever.
Adam Curry: Definitely not
great. I wouldn't want to be
promoted. Did you hear that? He
got off.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he got off
in the officer. They defend him.
Not liable. Yes.
Adam Curry: Thank you. Hey, oh.
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