0:00
Adam Curry: She's the Yoko of
the Royals man. Adam curry, John
0:03
C Devorah. They made for 2023.
This is your award winning
0:07
combination media assassination
episode 1552.
0:10
Unknown: This is no agenda
0:13
Adam Curry: cranking up the
drone wars and broadcasting live
0:16
from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country here. Number six. The
0:19
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry.
0:22
John C Dvorak: And from Northern
Silicon Valley. They're
0:24
considering the date. We're all
saying the same thing. May the
0:27
Fourth be with you? I'm John C.
Dvorak. Buzzkill.
0:33
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, I forgot
all about that. I'm not a not a
0:37
Star Wars fan. I mean, I'm, I
mean, I watched the first one
0:41
and Empire Strikes Back and that
was it. I was done. That was it.
0:46
I didn't need any more than
that. Yeah. Was enough was
0:51
enough? Well, I will say,
there's not going to be any Star
0:55
Wars movies for a while. It's
happened twice in the existence
1:00
of this show. And two and both
times it has only benefited us.
1:06
John C Dvorak: Joshua has no
edge.
1:12
Adam Curry: The writer strike.
1:14
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know. It
is only been once during the
1:18
show. This is the second time.
Yeah, this is the second time so
1:21
and it lasted the first one last
100 days. And it did took it
1:25
ruined the business and it hurt
them. The the bottom line in
1:29
Hollywood, California. And I
don't see. The thing is I think,
1:35
do I think I have a clip like
this? Maybe
1:37
Adam Curry: I have a clip, I
backgrounder and was talking
1:41
about just from France? 24.
Because you know they at least
1:44
Yeah, why don't we try it? At
least I tried to give us some
1:47
some valid reporting.
1:49
Unknown: It is day one of the
first Hollywood writers strike
1:51
in 15 years and writers have
certainly turned out in huge
1:55
numbers. Hundreds of people
marching right now in front of
1:57
the Netflix headquarters in
Hollywood chanting slogans like
2:01
corporate greed has got to go,
no contract, no script, and LA
2:05
is a union town. And that's a
case. We've heard lots of
2:09
support lots of cars, dozens and
dozens of them honking their
2:12
horns in support of these
writers as they drive by these
2:15
writers who were asking for
several things, including better
2:18
pay streaming residuals, or
royalties for when a show that
2:22
they've been working on is then
sold on to a streaming giant
2:24
late nights like Netflix, and
also mandatory staffing. But
2:28
that last point is the one that
was really the major sticking
2:31
point in negotiations with these
entertainment companies. And
2:34
that is what led to those talks
breaking down last night. We're
2:37
already seeing some
consequences. Some of those late
2:39
night talk shows like Jimmy
Kimmel Live, The Late Show with
2:42
Stephen Colbert, all going into
reruns starting tonight. And of
2:46
course, as long as the longer
this strike goes on, the more
2:49
consequences we will start
exploring the entertainment
2:52
world here in Hollywood.
2:54
Adam Curry: Yeah, I always love
this except this time, they're
2:56
really screwed. They're totally
screwed this time because
2:59
they're not gonna get anything
they want. There's no residuals
3:03
and streaming. They all accepted
these deals like oh, okay, well,
3:08
you
3:09
John C Dvorak: need and they got
bonused on him. Yes, they got
3:11
extra money upfront. I'm not
undecided. The writers being a
3:15
writer myself, I'm not in that
union. But I will say this, they
3:19
were giving them extra money
because of the no residual
3:23
situations with from the
streamers on Netflix. And those
3:26
guys. They were throwing money
around like it was crazy. Net,
3:30
Netflix and Amazon Studios give
us tons of money Fire Rod did.
3:35
And and my understanding is that
the studio is also expected to
3:40
strike some years ago and have
have put so much stuff in the
3:45
can Yeah. That they can flow for
a year.
3:49
Adam Curry: Well, so there's a
number of things and and I'm not
3:52
against organized labor. I'm not
against unions. I think I am a
3:56
pro union. I'm sag AFTRA, I
believe although I've never made
4:00
enough money to get into the
into the retirement fund. I used
4:04
to get I don't even get money
from anymore I used to get 12
4:07
cents from seriously I would get
like $1.05 I would get a
4:12
residual check from Swamp Thing.
And one thing and circus of the
4:16
stars also got me residuals for
a little bit there. But part of
4:20
it is you know this per episode
saying and then you know, on
4:24
streaming, you know, if you
would do friends today, which
4:27
had what 30 episodes a season,
it would have eight now so
4:32
there's a per episode
4:33
John C Dvorak: thing everyone's
subscribed to these eight
4:35
episodes. In fact, the even on
network TV, there was one show
4:39
called The Good Place, which was
funny show but it was like 10 it
4:45
very It wasn't even the same
from year to year it was it was
4:48
10 episodes and then they take a
year and a half off because
4:52
they're I will get to an end and
when we get 10 Good episodes or
4:55
12 Good episodes, we'll put
another season together and they
4:58
go on and I never been what I
love liked that show, but I
5:00
never even watched the last
season. There was like a two
5:03
year delay for it to come out
because they've taken their
5:06
time. I mean, come on. And Sid
Caesar used to do like 40 shows
5:12
a year, hour and a half comedies
all original
5:16
Adam Curry: way. We do 110 We do
have the writers now you see,
5:23
like, none of the late night
shows all those guys. They're
5:26
worthless without their writer
room, and the jokes are okay.
5:29
But you know, they might write
more than the jokes. It's the
5:32
questions. It's the interviews.
It's also incredibly phony and
5:36
just bull crap. And please,
Writers Guild of America, don't
5:42
you know, members don't write us
and tell him he don't know what
5:45
it's about. I don't care.
Really. We
5:47
John C Dvorak: have to listen
what it's about, you know, who
5:49
sent it to me? Yeah, the
5:51
Adam Curry: it's a huge list.
One of our guys
5:53
John C Dvorak: has is involved
in the strike. And he sent us a
5:56
huge list of all the demands and
all the counter proposal and put
6:00
Adam Curry: it in the show
notes. Everyone can take a look
6:01
at it. But the world has
changed. You've changed speakers
6:06
John C Dvorak: changed. I mean,
it changed for every writer. I
6:08
mean, look at the magazine
business. If you want to go back
6:11
to the early days like face,
let's say when the magazine
6:13
business you're
6:14
Adam Curry: a millionaire back
in the day, you were riding high
6:16
on the hog, you had limo 24 hour
service, you had your money in a
6:20
brown paper bag?
6:22
Unknown: I did. Can you tell us
a
6:24
Adam Curry: little bit just a
tad.
6:25
John C Dvorak: And then if you
Sure. And so if you go to back,
6:33
let's say in the 70s he go back
to that there was a period of
6:37
time before that where there was
called the short story market
6:41
where all these magazines like
Colliers and all the use of
6:45
published short stories and then
they were quarterly so it would
6:47
do stuff like that. Did that
that business? Who's what short
6:51
story writer? Do you personally
know? I don't know of any. And
6:55
also,
6:55
Adam Curry: if you look at the
business, Disney plus Netflix,
6:59
Netflix, Paramount. These guys
are bleeding money, the whole
7:03
thing was short sighted. They
all were gonna get into
7:06
streaming business in the
future. Yeah, maybe during the
7:09
lockdown. You know, there was
some some business some future
7:13
in it. But then that ended
during COVID. And you know,
7:16
people are going back to the
movies. It's just it's a
7:19
different world. And and the
free money train is over, it is
7:23
over. So you know, there's just
not any money speculative money
7:27
that's going into these
projects. You know, most most
7:31
companies are crowdfunding these
days. By the way, speaking of
7:36
bull crap media companies, Vice
media. Finally, finally, this
7:42
thing is going out of business,
7:44
John C Dvorak: but there's buzz,
Buzzfeed News, killer, whatever
7:47
they
7:48
Adam Curry: vice media, which
was blooming I used to look at
7:52
this thing all the time. Like
how are these guys doing it?
7:54
They basically they started as a
magazine in Canada. You know,
7:58
Shane Smith, bullcrap artists,
Gavin McInnes, who started proud
8:02
boys and and ran around his
podcast with a dildo buzz but
8:05
flying people. They started by
hoodwinking Murdoch into a $70
8:10
million investment. But then
they raised in total $900
8:15
million from Time Warner from
all you know, all these
8:20
different companies. And they
had no business model. They were
8:23
basically they were an
advertising company that made
8:26
hip content, you know, and then
they actually bought an ad
8:31
consulting company with 500
people, they built a 60,000
8:35
square foot facility in
Brooklyn. And finally is like,
8:40
no one is dumb enough to put
money into it and now it's just
8:42
gonna be it's gonna be going out
of business. It's like it's all
8:47
of this was bull crap. It was
built on bull. And Allah that's
8:51
what a lot of this the streaming
stuff, I'm sorry, writers and
8:56
Spotify, who of course allowed
gimlet and parcast to unionize
9:02
under the WGA to another
podcasts are affected by this
9:07
Unknown: pod. All these true
flags? Yes. You know that.
9:11
John C Dvorak: I know about the
unionization? That gimlet Yeah.
9:14
And some of the other efforts,
but that's under the Writers
9:18
Guild WGA.
9:19
Adam Curry: East. Yeah. And that
was awesome. But that was also
9:26
it's crazy. It was premised on
bowl. Because you and I talked
9:31
about this all the time, like
you can't. The podcast model
9:35
does not work with executive
producers and producers and line
9:38
producers and editors. No, it
works when one or two people do
9:43
it themselves, themselves. And
they may be maybe you're lucky
9:47
enough to have an extra person
or like we do value for value.
9:51
We make everybody a producer and
give everybody credit for making
9:54
the show and make everyone feel
that they're part of the show.
9:58
But no, they weren't all
Hollywood. And then when the
10:00
money dried up, we'll start
selling your Neumann mics people
10:04
know I'm working off a $700
piece of gear here, dad $70,000
10:09
Yeah,
10:10
John C Dvorak: gear. Yeah. Yeah.
And your gear sounds better. In
10:13
fact, as we talked about earlier
before the show, I've always
10:15
thought you should win an award
and I'm guaranteeing that you
10:18
will
10:19
Adam Curry: and I know what I'm
going to snub I'm going to snub
10:21
the academy. Like gonna be
accepting on behalf Robert
10:29
Downey Jr. You know, something
like that. I'm not gonna go. No,
10:36
but it's, it's sad because I
don't think there's going to be
10:40
an agreement that is
satisfactory for the writers who
10:43
really just have to find they
should be doing pot. In fact, I
10:47
was just talking they are. I was
talking. I was talking to my
10:50
buddy who got kicked out of
Disney.
10:55
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. Our
friend. Yeah,
10:56
Adam Curry: I've never met him
but kicked I consider him a
10:59
friend from before. Yes. And I
have had dinner. I've stayed at
11:01
his house. So we actually are
friends. So your buddy's real
11:04
true friends. And he's and he,
you know, they still there. They
11:06
still have on payroll because,
Oh, oops, they couldn't actually
11:09
kick him out. Because, you know,
a whole division started to fall
11:12
apart. So Oh, could you please
stay?
11:17
John C Dvorak: That's not
reported?
11:18
Adam Curry: Well, I'm probably
already going further than I
11:21
should. But as we were talking.
We agreed. You cannot Hollywood
11:31
has they don't see it. They
cannot go up against the number
11:34
one non union content producer
in the world, which is taking
11:40
all the money. And that is tick
tock. Tick tock is where all the
11:45
money is. He agreed with me.
11:49
John C Dvorak: Yeah. He said,
You know, they were funny. I
11:51
mean, I I harken back to the
90s. When there was a crossover
11:57
point in this, this happens
every so often is not observed
12:00
well by the pundit class. And
that was the crossover point
12:04
where the game game computer
game and console business was
12:08
making more money than the movie
business.
12:11
Adam Curry: Oh, hundreds of
millions more I would say,
12:15
John C Dvorak: yes, they were
making and profiting more than
12:20
the movie business. And these
crossover points take place all
12:24
the time. And it's like when
something crosses over and then
12:27
everything has to adjust once it
happens. And Hollywood, from
12:31
what I can tell really has been
very reluctant to adjust to
12:35
anything.
12:36
Adam Curry: Well, of course,
because it's all it's all been
12:38
such a wonderful system like oh,
yes, well, you don't have
12:41
guaranteed minimum drama ball.
Oh, no, just look I've been in
12:45
Hollywood look. You've been in
Hollywood you know how it's a
12:49
bunch of arrogant dicks and
everyone's in on the game. And
12:52
yet I mean there's a lot of very
talented people make no mistake
12:56
incredibly talented people. But
you know but all of it is the
13:00
fire leaves you you know the
fire and well how great is the
13:04
writing the How great is the
writing been and let's just add
13:06
to that, that how the streamers
but Hollywood, whatever you want
13:10
the content creation business.
They are also captured by the
13:15
magical artificial intelligence.
And I think they truly believe
13:18
that they can cut costs by using
chat GPT to build a bare bones
13:21
script. These people are
insanely absolutely correct.
13:25
Insanely stupid. So this is
another thing and they're not
13:29
going to give up on that. That's
what the writers apparently also
13:32
want. guarantees that that
exactly, that will not happen. I
13:36
think every article you heard is
Hollywood. Writers demanding
13:41
studios regulate regulate AI so
it doesn't steal their jobs. Now
13:48
of course it's going to steal
your job. Yeah, how about this
13:53
just just people on Tik Tok are
gonna are going to be the new
13:56
millionaires they're gonna do a
great job but a lot of them are
13:59
already millionaires. They're
gonna create groovy stuff and
14:02
people will enjoy it it'll be
short form everyone's everyone's
14:05
horrible. Jacked up all jacked
up like 30 seconds.
14:10
Unknown: Mega drug hits.
14:12
John C Dvorak: But this stuff
goes on forever. I want to since
14:16
you brought up the AI thing with
these guys. I want to bring up
14:19
an AI clip. Okay, here's the
only one I have so we're gonna
14:22
talk about AI okay. You know
that she gar and crystal ball.
14:27
They have this podcast by the
way
14:29
Adam Curry: can I just say I
find her outfit odd. Now blindly
14:34
listen
14:34
John C Dvorak: on audio so I
don't see what she's wearing.
14:36
But
14:36
Adam Curry: you and I as
producers, you know, so they
14:38
have a first of all,
congratulations to them because
14:41
they let where they leave. They
left the hill on the hill and
14:44
everyone like you idiots and
they did a pretty good job and
14:47
the Crown Fahd crowdfunded
crowdfunded stuff and people
14:51
John C Dvorak: I thought, I
think of all the people that did
14:53
a spin off like that arrogantly,
yes and with with criticism, I
14:59
think they did a great job they,
they, they gotta have a working
15:03
operation. Although, if you
listen to their more recent
15:06
podcasts, they want to get more
money so they can buy a big
15:09
studio.
15:09
Adam Curry: Now I heard that the
curry Devorah consulting group
15:14
would like to make a statement.
Don't do it. You're stupid. We
15:21
just have to say Leo Laporte.
Don't do it. Joe Rogan's studio
15:26
is like a little space that he
that he subleases from a fitness
15:32
company, in an industrial area
of Austin is what you see is
15:39
what it is. It's a small studio.
You don't need big studios, you
15:43
don't need to be don't go that
the whatever you're doing now
15:47
the thing that you have, whether
it's green screen, or I'm not
15:49
quite sure what it is. It's
fine. Don't Don't throw the
15:54
money away. Would you agree?
15:57
John C Dvorak: Partner?
Absolutely. It's crazy. Once you
16:02
know what to think and think
you're gonna turn into some you
16:05
know, massive This is the
problem is getting a big head.
16:08
Instead of just pocketing the
profits stop shrink your head,
16:13
trigger head. So they have
they're so big now that they
16:16
have this, this couple whose
name is Emily and Ryan. So every
16:22
once in a while they take they
have the shows there's and
16:27
Emily, Emily's here talking
about AI and how it's making an
16:33
incursion. And she makes a
comment in here that and she's,
16:37
I thought I would have thought
initially listening to because
16:40
I've never heard these two
before that she's like cokehead
16:43
She sounds coked up. But in
fact, when you listen to when
16:46
you listen to her, the
16:48
Adam Curry: whole Piper's up
been doing Hollywood coke Stop
16:50
it.
16:52
John C Dvorak: You can tell she
has a cold, okay? Because you
16:54
can hear, see and hear anything,
but she's not coked up. She is
17:00
just got a cold, but she sounds
terrible. And he or she is going
17:05
on a little bit about AI and she
drops a little bombshell in here
17:09
that just I'm just a head
shaker.
17:11
Unknown: Oh my gosh. And that's
what Hinton is saying. I mean,
17:13
he's saying, you know, they if
you think about what AI sees as
17:17
increasing its power, what a
algorithm might see is
17:19
increasing power. It's cloning
itself it is doing going after
17:23
other people that threatened its
power, just logically, you can
17:26
understand how an algorithm
would get from point A to point
17:28
B. And that creates something
that spirals out of human
17:32
control very, very quickly. And
so I am concerned about things
17:36
like teenagers using AI and
getting you know, basically
17:40
sexually assaulted by AI. I
17:41
think that's a huge concern.
17:48
Adam Curry: Don't touch me
there. Show me on the doll where
17:51
the AI assaulted you. What is
that you
17:54
John C Dvorak: believe that?
17:55
Adam Curry: Well, you know,
assault these days is just
17:57
saying, you know, like, Hey,
nice dress, you know, that's
17:59
sexual.
18:00
John C Dvorak: Nice tickets.
18:01
Adam Curry: Go. Stop it. I don't
like the word tickets. I don't
18:04
like it's always bothered me. I
don't know why. I'm just saying
18:10
John C Dvorak: look within.
18:13
Unknown: Thank you. Thank you,
Grace Hopper, she'll do that.
18:16
John C Dvorak: Well, so I you
know, this is like, people are,
18:20
they're out of control in their
analysis of AI.
18:24
Adam Curry: Okay, luckily, I
have a few clips to talk about.
18:26
Yeah, I
18:28
John C Dvorak: would have gotten
more this one I just thought was
18:30
okay. I don't know if you could
top that one. But you can, I'm
18:32
sure come up with
18:34
Unknown: a couple of things.
18:37
Adam Curry: Let's just, it's
almost like, you know, all these
18:40
euphemisms. 99% of what people
are talking about is not
18:45
artificial intelligence. I'm
sorry. 100% is there is no
18:49
intelligence that exists outside
of humans and mammals I guess.
18:54
Or org biological organisms.
That's yeah, that I think that's
18:58
safe to say. So to say it's
artificial intelligence. There
19:01
is no intelligence there's only
copy paste you know, scoring
19:06
things None None of this is
true. And the the emails we get
19:12
from people well you know, it's
going to be AI is going to be
19:15
great for people Yeah, sure. We
have all kinds of tools you
19:19
know, Photoshop if you want to
call it is AI Photoshop. There's
19:23
all kinds I agree
19:24
John C Dvorak: 100% With this,
what you just said Photoshop is
19:27
AI you said
19:28
Adam Curry: 100% We have to rock
against that we have to rock
19:32
against the 100%
19:33
John C Dvorak: I only picked it
up recently. I know I'm gonna
19:38
write you I won't be able to
turn it off so quickly so I
19:40
you're gonna have I'm gonna vote
but I appreciate being called
19:43
out. Yeah.
19:45
Adam Curry: So that is not
artificial intelligence, you
19:48
know, a transcripts that it's
incredible that we use otter.ai
19:54
and cost 20 bucks a month. And I
throw the mp3 in there and like
19:59
an hour later Oops out and it's
it's recognized your voice it
20:02
tags you. Now, of course, half
the time, it'll say it'll spell
20:06
your name JH en si Jhansi
Dvorak. Sometimes it gets it
20:12
right. But it's still even
identifying different voices is
20:16
quite. That's remarkable. It's
remarkable, but it's not
20:19
artificial intelligence. We have
a lot of this stuff. So what
20:24
what people are calling art now?
Tina does all of the resumes for
20:29
the kids, you know, because this
is what she does. She's very,
20:32
very good at it. She also
coaches, you know, here's,
20:35
here's how you want to ask for
this, you know, so there's money
20:38
for this. And so, one of the
girls is, you know, up for
20:43
review when she wants to ask for
some more money. And so Tina
20:46
says, you know, okay, I'll write
this up. So now I have something
20:49
I'll send that to you, you take
a look at it. And she says to
20:52
me, Oh, wow, she really wrote
something herself. And she's
20:54
reading it to me, John, within
within 30 seconds of like, chat.
20:57
GPT. Yeah. And then she went,
Oh, you're right. And then we
21:01
could identify, you know,
there's some repetition of
21:03
certain phrases, just chat GPT.
And that's not gonna fly. You
21:09
know, I don't care how good it
gets. It's just it's not.
21:13
John C Dvorak: So well, you
know, it's a good start to make
21:16
it worse. You know, there's
tools coming tools that are just
21:22
designed to spot that this
stuff, of course. And so you
21:26
just run it through, it's like
the same thing, like just stolen
21:29
papers, at RuneFest. Through the
system, the computer goes both
21:35
ways. It's like a double edged
sword it, you know, cuts one way
21:39
and it cuts the other. So you
can't get away with this for
21:41
long.
21:42
Adam Curry: You know what, I
believe AI is real, when it
21:45
really can stop spam. Okay. And
why isn't that the first
21:49
application? Why isn't that the
first one phone calls for that
21:53
matter? Oh, have you been I've
been getting these texts. And
21:57
it's, it's been recent. So I'm
not sure what happened. And it
22:00
goes like this. And I bet you a
lot of people are getting these,
22:02
hey, this number has been in my
phone for a long time. But I
22:05
really don't know who this is.
Who are you?
22:08
John C Dvorak: Oh, I've not
heard about this. But that's a
22:10
great idea.
22:11
Adam Curry: I get a lot of
these. Let me see if there's
22:13
more. It's like, hey, it's all
variations of that. Let me see
22:19
if I hadn't I usually get rid of
them. This one came in this
22:23
morning. And it's and it's not
from it's like, two or three
22:26
numbers or, you know, like known
area code, not necessarily some
22:31
bullcrap one. But it's text
messages, which is a bit
22:34
concerning. I wish I could find
it either one of those, but it's
22:38
always
22:39
Unknown: how's the storm? Oh,
how's the storm? Did it pass you
22:43
yet?
22:44
Adam Curry: Oh, I don't know,
you know, and stuff like that.
22:49
It's all but it's always like,
hey,
22:51
John C Dvorak: what do we do?
Then? The follow up to find out
22:53
what's going on? No, I
22:55
Adam Curry: have I have a life I
have things to do. How
22:57
John C Dvorak: to follow up.
22:58
Adam Curry: I'm not gonna follow
up. Alright, so then we have a
23:02
big, big, big thing happen in AI
world? Because remember, we all
23:06
have to be very, very afraid.
Everybody who is not who doesn't
23:10
have a an AI play? Let's just
call it what it is. That's how
23:14
the venture capitals talk about
that. Do they have an AI play?
23:17
No, Elon Musk does not have an
AI play. So what does he have to
23:21
do? He has to sign the joint
letter to say we need to stop
23:25
six months so I can catch up and
get my own AI play. Get it
23:28
funded? And now Oh, no, it's
technology
23:31
Unknown: that could be superior
to the human brain. Okay.
23:35
Adam Curry: France 24. Go back.
And one
23:37
Unknown: of its pioneers now
says part of him regrets his
23:40
role in creating it.
23:41
Adam Curry: This is nothing
better than the Creator coming
23:45
out and saying, Oh,
23:46
Unknown: 75 year old computer
scientists. Geoffrey Hinton says
23:50
he quit his job at Google so he
can independently share his
23:53
concerns about AI technology.
23:56
were you gonna say?
23:57
John C Dvorak: I was gonna say,
Yeah, because he's a forced
24:00
retirement.
24:02
Unknown: Get out of the company,
which include fears over
24:04
disinformation and stealing
human jobs. But beyond that, you
24:09
hit
24:09
Adam Curry: this this is this is
a trend. We heard the Writers
24:12
Guild of America talks about
stealing jobs. This is we're
24:17
picking up on something. And now
France 24 is talking about AI
24:21
stealing jobs, which include
24:24
Unknown: fears over
disinformation and stealing
24:26
human jobs, but also go far
beyond that.
24:29
What do we do to mitigate the
long term risks of things more
24:35
intelligent than us taking
control things like GPT for
24:40
Eclipse is a person in the
amount of general knowledge it
24:43
has an eclipses and by a long
way, in terms of reasoning, it's
24:47
not as good but it doesn't
really do simple reasoning.
24:51
Adam Curry: Okay, let's just
break this down. He says had
24:53
more knowledge than any human
ever has bullcrap. I have
24:56
Google.
24:57
John C Dvorak: And he also said
in terms of reasoning, It's not
25:00
very good. Exactly neither. And
you're, that's the other thing.
25:05
They said, Well, I can have more
effect, I was thinking the same
25:09
thing you just said, which is
that we have never accumulated
25:15
in our own brains, the
Encyclopedia Britannica, but
25:18
we've always had the
encyclopedia that we could look.
25:21
It's like an extension. It's
like a human extension, right?
25:24
So how's it going to really
outdo us? Because all of those
25:27
human extensions are the only
thing that it has access to.
25:31
It's not. It's not developing
new stuff out of the blue. Also,
25:35
Adam Curry: I think that as a
human, I have Google foo. I
25:38
mean, I can search things and
get answers that other people
25:42
can't because I know how to
input the queries. Oh, I'm great
25:46
at a prompt query. I'm gonna
prompt engineer douchebags. This
25:52
is a whole new category of
douchebag. I'm a prompt
25:54
engineer.
25:58
John C Dvorak: Do you just admit
to being one,
26:00
Adam Curry: I am one, but I
don't put it on my resume.
26:03
Unknown: And given the rate of
progress, we expect things to
26:06
get better quite fast. So we
need to worry about that.
26:10
Adam Curry: Worry about it. It's
getting better quite fast.
26:12
Worried might ask
26:13
John C Dvorak: you something,
please. Who is this guy?
26:16
Adam Curry: This is the Google
AI pioneer.
26:19
John C Dvorak: I never heard of
him. No, of
26:20
Adam Curry: course not.
26:22
John C Dvorak: Have you heard of
him? No.
26:23
Adam Curry: Don't even mention
his name. Ai pioneer.
26:26
John C Dvorak: He said that you
missed his name on and off
26:28
again. But he 75 ai pioneer How
come I haven't heard of it. And
26:31
he's old enough. He's 75. He
literally is old enough to have
26:34
been part of that first AI go
round back in the 80s. He took
26:39
Adam Curry: he took his absence
when they knew they were going
26:41
to kick them out. Because that's
what Google's doing to get rid
26:43
of everybody. And he's out there
now doing this too. If they get
26:47
his own, he wants money. Like
how can I score some money? Oh,
26:50
maybe if I warned about this,
someone will pick me up as
26:53
what's the word an artificial
intelligence? Ah, ethics ethics
26:59
guy ethics professional.
27:01
John C Dvorak: The there'll be
some like that's actually dead
27:04
analysis is on 100% Oh, you have
to stop this. I would try to
27:10
stop it in mid chat. And I
decided to go through with it.
27:13
But
27:14
Unknown: if you know, I have no
respect for you. So this guy is
27:20
Adam Curry: really trying to
garner up a gig.
27:23
Unknown: It's just the latest
warning that tech companies
27:26
might be creating a monster they
can't control. In March after
27:30
open AI released the latest
model of its chat bot GBT for
27:34
more than 1000 people from the
tech industry including
27:37
billionaire Elon Musk,
27:38
Adam Curry: which of course is
always the mark of a smart man
27:42
Unknown: and Apple co founder
Steve Wozniak signed a letter
27:45
calling for
27:45
Adam Curry: Wozniak dated Kathy
Yeah. What's your face? He does
27:48
not smart guy. Remember that?
Kathy Griffin?
27:53
Unknown: Jr. He did? Yes. So
he's
27:57
John C Dvorak: been married for
a long time. He's a good guy.
27:59
Everyone loves Wozniak. Sure,
28:01
Adam Curry: but doesn't mean
he's smart. That was a bad date.
28:05
John C Dvorak: And Apple co
founders, like Kathy Griffin
28:09
would for good reason. The co
28:10
Unknown: founder Steve Wozniak,
signed a letter calling for a
28:13
pause on AI development. While
the risks are properly studied.
28:17
Can you thought well,
organizations like the OECD have
28:20
issued guidelines, little AI
regulation exists. The US just
28:24
launched a study of possible
accountability measures in
28:27
April, and the European Union
has put forward an artificial
28:30
intelligence act, but the far
reaching legislation has yet to
28:34
be passed.
28:35
Adam Curry: So this is all this
is just another Gambit. And I
28:40
know you agree with me. So it's
not even a discussion to be had.
28:43
Silicon Valley tech companies
like they have nothing. By the
28:46
way it costs some astronomical
obscene amount to keep the
28:50
servers running for this no
business model business they
28:53
have. You can't advertise on
chat GPT. And what are you going
28:59
to do with that? How are you
going to suck the information
29:02
out of people how you're going
to suck them dry? And well
29:04
they're trying to get
29:06
John C Dvorak: right now they're
using a subscription model? Oh,
29:09
Adam Curry: who's gonna pay for
that? People don't pay for
29:12
stuff. They won't pay for it.
They won't. They're gonna I
29:15
agree. I agree. And there's
enough open source versions that
29:18
you know, I mean, you can even
transcripts, you can now run on
29:21
your own computer. I just don't
want to dedicate a machine to
29:24
it. And I'm happy to just give
it to someone else who approves
29:27
it. I don't I don't I have no
time to maintain it. So that's
29:30
that's it's not a business. So
now they have to involve the
29:33
government. Oh, yeah. Well,
regulation, okay. So now we can
29:36
be we can be regulated, which
means we have all the money and
29:40
then we can charge company you
know, they're moving away from
29:43
the business to consumer model
with this and and of course, it
29:47
uses more energy than all of
Bitcoin put together, but make
29:51
no mention of that. And even in
the United States, of course,
29:55
now we have to set up meetings
to have a meeting everybody is
29:59
from CNBC. This is Gina
Raimondo. She's our Commerce
30:04
Secretary, an AI genius. I say
we also
30:07
Unknown: want to lead the world
in AI. We want to do it safely,
30:11
safely.
30:12
Madam Secretary, you're you're
part of this meeting that the
30:15
Vice President is holding
tomorrow with
30:16
Adam Curry: Kamla Harris is
holding a meeting with Gina
30:19
Raimondo about AI, I would pay
money to sit in that meeting,
30:24
John C Dvorak: oh, I would like
to be a fly on the wall. I can't
30:27
Adam Curry: wait for the Vice
President to talk about AI.
30:29
Please, Kamala tell it better,
30:31
John C Dvorak: they better put
to bring the cameras in the
30:34
crew, you want to see this? We
want that live CEOs
30:37
Unknown: of Google and Microsoft
and open AI. And I'm curious
30:40
what the what the goal is, and
what your concern level is
30:44
around some of this technology.
30:47
The concern level is high. You
know, it's a challenge because
30:51
on the one hand, the excitement
level is high. When you think
30:54
about the promise and potential
of AI, and what it means for
30:58
advances in health care,
advances in education, advances
31:02
in business, as you say, health
care,
31:04
Adam Curry: baby health care,
because chat GPT can fix you a
31:07
healthcare. It's the advantages
this is this is huge. The future
31:11
It's all ahead of us. There's a
world of possibilities
31:14
Unknown: in healthcare advances
in education, advances in
31:17
business, as you say, we're in
the lead, and we want to keep
31:20
the lead. But it has to be done
safely. Incredibly powerful
31:25
technology. So we want to have a
serious discussion with
31:28
industry. As you know, tomorrow
will be one discussion among
31:34
many that we're having with many
stakeholders to try to figure
31:38
out how we prove how we go fast,
but without breaking things.
31:45
Adam Curry: Well, that's a great
twist on Facebook's motto, very
31:48
good Gita. So stupid. All right,
I want to move off of this. I
31:54
want to move you into yours in
some into some of your clips.
31:57
Because I see what you have
here. I think it is the news of
32:00
the day and we will have a
different takes on this. I will
32:04
start with a short clip of Nigel
Farage interviewing presidential
32:09
hopeful and former President
Donald Trump about the drone war
32:13
Unknown: and that person. I
mean, today, they're saying
32:16
there's been an attempted drone
strike by the Ukrainians on the
32:19
Kremlin. We don't yet know the
full truth. Have you seen that
32:22
story? I have not seen it yet.
Okay. All right. Well, we know
32:25
that that's the I mean, they're
quite small drones. But the
32:29
truth of it is, there's a
growing I sense in America
32:33
unhappiness about the money
that's been given to Ukraine.
32:37
Why does nobody talk about peace
and pleased negotiations?
32:40
John C Dvorak: So if I were
president, and I say this, I
32:44
will end that war one day, it'll
take 24 hours. I know Zielinski.
32:48
Well. I know, Putin. Well, we
get ended in a period of about
32:54
100%. Don't ever say
33:02
Adam Curry: even Trump is saying
it 100% 100 Pro Han or pissant
33:07
100%. I'm so disappointed that
people do this. Okay. So let's
33:13
talk about this drone. You got
clips?
33:16
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this is a
clip from Al Jazeera. No, they
33:19
have so so it's actually
interesting report. You created
33:25
a start and just go with it. I
mean, I didn't. I intended just
33:29
to play this first part, just
first clip, which is you go to
33:32
one. Clip one, Russia. Sorry.
But, but as I kept playing that
33:42
it's a long report and I kept
playing it. Oh, I gotta clip
33:44
this. I gotta clip that. So it
turns out to be pretty long.
33:47
Let's go with this the setup.
33:49
Unknown: Russia has threatened
retaliation for what it says was
33:53
an assassination attempt on
President Vladimir Putin. The
33:57
Kremlin says two drones were
used in an attack on the
34:00
presidential residence in the
early hours of Wednesday. It
34:03
claims Ukraine was behind it.
But Kiva strongly denies the
34:07
allegations.
34:08
This is what the Kremlin says
was an attempt on the life of
34:11
Vladimir Putin. And all object
is intercepted by air defenses.
34:17
Russia says it was a drone, one
of two that officials say were
34:20
launched by Ukraine in an
audacious attack aimed at the
34:24
Kremlin complex. Two unmanned
aerial vehicles were aimed at
34:28
the Kremlin and official
statement reads as a result of
34:31
timely actions taken by the
military and special services
34:34
with the use of radar warfare
systems, the devices were put
34:38
out of action.
34:40
Adam Curry: I think there's a
backdrop to this that there was
34:43
a so called drone which looked
like an oversize RC aircraft
34:49
with apparently with a block of
C four in it. That didn't quite
34:53
make it to Moscow and crashed
landed and there's photos of it
34:57
and it's sort of like It's like
one of those remote control
34:59
planes. Is that you that you see
at a demo demonstration day?
35:04
Yeah, this is not this is not a
Reaper drone. No,
35:08
John C Dvorak: there's a
dipshit, drones, dip shield
35:11
Adam Curry: drones. Exactly.
35:14
John C Dvorak: So, so then I sit
down, that's the report. That's
35:18
pretty much all we need. But
then it goes on, they started to
35:21
do some analysis. And in this
next clip, they have the blink
35:25
and clip that I've been trying
to find. Which is this, you
35:30
know, spa, the world's worst
analogy, and you'll hear it in
35:36
here. And then I will talk about
it for a second because it's,
35:38
the guy doesn't seem to get the
gist of this old analogy. LET'S
35:44
PLAY CLIP two.
35:46
Unknown: So the Kremlin said
that this is a wedge drone
35:50
attack was a dry run in
preparation for May the nine to
35:55
add puts him will be vulnerable
because his whereabouts unknown
35:59
and events.
36:00
It is a theory that not everyone
is convinced about.
36:04
I've seen the reports. I can't
in any way validate them. We
36:08
simply we simply don't know.
Second, I would take anything
36:13
coming out of the Kremlin with a
very large shaker of salt. Okay,
36:17
what? A shaker of salt.
36:21
John C Dvorak: So when I first
heard about the shaker of salt
36:24
comment, I was dig trying to dig
it up. And it turned out luckily
36:28
have showed up in Al Jazeera.
This the analogy of course, as
36:32
you know, you've heard it, I'll
take it with a grain of salt. I
36:35
mean, it's meaningless because a
grain of salt is nothing. It's a
36:39
grain, so who cares? But a
shaker of salt is not
36:43
meaningless. That's a lot of
salt. Yes, it sure is.
36:49
Adam Curry: So what is
36:50
John C Dvorak: he trying to say?
Is this is actually saying that
36:53
this is a big deal, because
that's what his analogy implies.
36:58
Adam Curry: Well, I think what
he's trying to say is, it's
37:01
Russian disinformation. We all
know the Kremlin lies, but he's
37:05
no, that's
37:05
John C Dvorak: what he's saying.
He's saying that overtly. But to
37:08
use the analogy of a grain of
salt to a shaker of salt. Yeah,
37:12
he's an idiot.
37:14
Adam Curry: Oh, I know. He got
this from Chad GPT GPT
37:20
suggestion. And, you know, I
don't think it was Ukraine. I
37:27
don't think it was something
that it was probably just some
37:30
some kid on the outskirts of
Moscow. I mean, this this thing
37:35
was nothing special. was ever to
see for well, we don't know if
37:39
this had C four on it. We don't
know I thought you said the
37:42
first one. No, the first one.
The first one but that crashed
37:45
way short of but doesn't matter.
It's this is all to me. It's all
37:49
distraction. Let's see.
37:51
John C Dvorak: I I agree with
your clip three. He's got to
37:53
laugh in it. So let's go there.
37:55
Unknown: On a visit to Finland.
President Solinsky denied
37:58
Ukraine's involvement. So
38:00
we don't attack Putin or Moscow.
Or we fight on on our territory.
38:09
We're defending our
religiousness. It is. We don't
38:13
have you know, enough weapon for
this.
38:18
John C Dvorak: He's begging for
money again.
38:20
Adam Curry: He got some I think.
I think we gave him some more
38:23
money on Wednesday.
38:24
John C Dvorak: That's a slippery
way of begging for my uh, you
38:27
know, we did nothing to do with
it. But we can in fact, we can't
38:30
even afford it. We can't afford
it if you give us a money maybe
38:33
we do it dude.
38:33
Adam Curry: We could crowdfund
that drone. I mean, this guy is
38:36
unbelievable. wait and wait
until you hear my clips you
38:39
share it. Okay, so
38:40
John C Dvorak: here we go with
this that final clip on the
38:43
drones the reaction
38:44
Unknown: get even as air raid
siren sounded in the Ukrainian
38:47
capital. The mere possibility
that Ukraine had struck a blow
38:51
at the heart of Russian power
was thrilling for some
38:56
of my classmates and I have been
talking about this all day. It's
38:58
very cool and very joyful. It's
lifted my spirits.
39:02
In its official statement, the
Kremlin said it reserves the
39:05
right to take retaliatory
measures where and when it sees
39:09
fit.
39:11
John C Dvorak: Now, of course,
they would say so the Ukrainian
39:13
students are all jacked up about
this. Yeah.
39:16
Adam Curry: I mean, you really
believe that this is just this
39:19
is propaganda. This is
39:21
John C Dvorak: I mean, to a
point but they they were
39:24
somebody that it wasn't like an
actor
39:26
Adam Curry: or the students in
school. I thought that you know,
39:30
the, the Russian Russia was
attacking keep everyone's has to
39:34
hide because they're getting
ready for the spring offensive.
39:38
It's all propaganda. All the
journalists are hooting and
39:41
hollering up in in Poland
they're all drinkin hanging out
39:45
with the women of the night.
39:48
Unknown: What's good is what you
do.
39:51
John C Dvorak: Women of the
night
39:55
Adam Curry: I don't know why I
said night All right, so let's
40:00
get back. Let's get back to
reality as, as we have to wind
40:05
this war down. We have to wind
this war down. We have an actual
40:10
war that we're not an actual
war, but we have sales jobs. We
40:14
have stuff to do over there in
Philippines and Taiwan, China.
40:18
See, there's real money to be
had people we've got this guy is
40:23
he wants to tiddlywinks. Ms no
sales in these drones? No, we're
40:28
not. We got to wind this down.
So how do we do it? Well, let's
40:33
crank up the old narrative of
we're going to apply prosecute
40:38
Putin, because not Russia, of
course, we'd love the Russian
40:41
people. It's all about Putin. So
how do we do that? Well, we have
40:45
to get them to the place where
we have successfully prosecuted
40:48
Putin before. And that is the
Hague in the Netherlands. And
40:53
nothing like doing a little
ceremony on the eve of May 5,
40:58
actually was there may 4 with
which is on the eve of May 5,
41:02
may 5 is Liberation Day in the
Netherlands a big deal. On
41:09
something very impressive, the
Dutch still do. And that is May
41:13
4 8pm. There is a moment of a
minute of silence. And literally
41:20
people stop their cars on the
highway get out. And we'll just
41:24
stand there and be silent for a
minute to remember the fallen of
41:29
World War Two. So of course,
we've got to bring this Nazi in.
41:35
Because the AES off brigade is
literally naming streets after
41:38
Nazi heroes and some of the
Dutch are onto it. Now there's
41:41
people writing about this and
paper saying hey, why is this
41:43
guy here on this day? But that
would not be the message we get
41:47
from Mark Ritter. And that is
the way you pronounce it. M five
41:51
M Rita? Who is a unmarried,
childless former HR manager at
41:57
Unilever. Yes.
41:59
John C Dvorak: How are they
pronouncing it on the M five M?
42:01
Unknown: Root? root root root?
Root? root root? Jimmy Dore does
42:08
it. Dude, call one Dutch please
call me
42:12
Adam Curry: to tell you what
anything you want. So Luca is an
42:16
unmarried, childless former HR
manager Unilever, somehow he has
42:20
been the prime minister for I
think 10 years now. Didn't know
42:24
maybe you'd want this is his
fourth cabinet. Keep, just keep
42:27
keep keep him in there. And he
welcomes valora Mia, to the
42:32
Hegge floor. It has been 434
days since you spoke a few
42:39
simple words that resonated all
over the world.
42:44
Unknown: And I see what you were
saying then.
42:47
Adam Curry: Sorry, I got a bus,
the Dutch guy. And I instead of
42:50
it's called, quote, I'll be
quoting you, Rita, I'll quote
42:54
you instead of I will say what
you were saying then. And I see
42:58
what you're saying then. We are
all here defending our
43:02
independence, our country. And
it will stay this way. This what
43:07
you said. And it's those are
riveting words. You Oh, my gosh,
43:14
I'm so glad we're all in front
of the Ukraine fly
43:17
John C Dvorak: to hear the
regular Winston Churchill, that
43:19
guy. We are all here
43:20
Adam Curry: defending our
independence, our country. And
43:24
it will stay this way. This what
you said. And it will be an
43:29
understatement to say that
you've have to work to resolve
43:34
and courage of the brave
soldiers and citizens Ukraine is
43:38
without precedent in our
lifetime. Wow. without precedent
43:43
in our lifetime. There's a lot
of people who are still around a
43:47
world war two dude who you're
about to celebrate. And I would
43:49
say, you know, there's some
differences in World War Two and
43:53
what you're seeing in Ukraine,
but okay. And yourself has
43:57
become a symbol or for the
country and country or country.
44:01
I like the country nice country
has become a symbol or for the
44:06
country, and its people can do
when they're fighting for the
44:11
existence, their freedom, and
your future. And we all admire
44:16
you for that. Yes, we by the
way, everyone's in a suit. Now
44:20
it's a nice reception. And he's
he's got his that. His
44:25
trademark. What does that drab
olive drab with a little logo in
44:30
the middle which is now his
whole that's his costume. You
44:34
know, that little
44:34
John C Dvorak: little Yang
costume is so tight fitting t
44:37
shirt with sleeves.
44:38
Adam Curry: He's got he's got
he's got his costume. I like
44:41
Star Trek costume. All right.
Now let's get into the meat of
44:44
what we're really doing here.
When I had to, by the way, I
44:47
think that this was organized by
the State Department the whole
44:50
thing from beginning to end, and
I think I can prove it. Our
44:54
State Department when I had the
privilege to address the members
44:58
of the Rabbah almost a year ago
As I said, we will stay with you
45:03
every inch of the way.
45:08
Unknown: As far as I'm aware,
45:11
Adam Curry: Ukraine, the
Netherlands most of the EU most
45:14
of the world uses the metric
system. Why would you say every
45:19
inch of the way unless it was
written by the US State
45:21
Department? Winner
45:31
Unknown: seriously,
45:32
John C Dvorak: this could have
been written by chat GPT Yeah,
45:36
Adam Curry: you gotta go. I
said, we will stay with you
45:40
every inch of the way. And let
me assure you Volodymyr depths,
45:44
we are determined to keep our
word now let's get to the meat
45:49
of the problem here. What do we
got to end this war man? What
45:51
are we gonna do? Because this is
an unjust war against everything
45:56
we stand for. Now. This is also
American State Department
45:59
talking points and unjust war.
Since when is war just is it
46:04
ever really just I mean, maybe
I'm,
46:09
John C Dvorak: I think you're
onto something here. This is an
46:11
interesting situation. It's
quite likely that the State
46:16
Department put this together.
Not only that, but as corny. Oh,
46:21
which is classic Blinken.
46:24
Adam Curry: The whole shaker
inch by inch. Exactly.
46:28
John C Dvorak: Step by step
slowly, I turned
46:30
Adam Curry: is an inch by inch.
Isn't that the Robert De Niro
46:33
speech in that football movie?
46:36
John C Dvorak: inch by inch
really comes from the Three
46:38
Stooges, I think are one of
these.
46:41
Adam Curry: All right, it's not
a just war, not a just war. It's
46:44
not fair. Because this is an
unjust war against everything we
46:50
stand for. This was war against
freedom, democracy, and rule of
46:55
law in our parts of the world
rule of law. Yeah, it's actually
46:58
as we know, it's a rule. It's a
war of aggression. Aggression.
47:03
That's right, we stand
47:04
John C Dvorak: by away rule,
that rule of law, meme, blah,
47:07
blah, blah, is very American
rule of law, of course,
47:11
Adam Curry: course democracy,
and rule of law in our parts of
47:14
the rules. That's why we stand
with Ukrainian people that had
47:18
the bastion of democracy, which
is Ukraine. And right, you can
47:23
count on our unwavering support
unwavering. Russia cannot read
47:28
this word and must be held
accountable. All the crimes of
47:32
aggression, and the injustice.
There it is the crimes of
47:36
aggression that we do, we have
to look at these euphemisms, the
47:41
crime of aggression. So if I'm
aggressive, that's a crime. If
47:47
I'm aggressive in my speaking
patterns, if I'm aggressive on
47:50
the playing field, if I'm
aggressive in my academic
47:54
studies, that is a crime. That
literally calling the crime of
47:58
aggression helped me John.
48:00
John C Dvorak: No, no, you're on
a roll.
48:02
Adam Curry: Russia cannot read
this word. And it must be held
48:05
accountable for all the crimes
of aggression, and the injustice
48:10
that this inflicting on the
people of Ukraine, day after day
48:14
in this horrific world. So what
better place to meet Dan here in
48:19
The Hague, to vehicle capital of
the world? In case you didn't
48:26
know, The Hague is the legal
capital of the world.
48:32
John C Dvorak: And that we're
miniature world is
48:35
Adam Curry: Maduro, dumb,
whatever. It's called in Maduro.
48:38
Dom Yeah, it's it's actually
close. It's I think it's between
48:41
the Hague and Rotterdam
miniature world miniature world.
48:45
So it's it's quite cute Maduro
Dom
48:48
John C Dvorak: Oh, it's
dynamite. I would recommend
48:50
every anyone who has a chance to
visit this little operation to
48:54
do do little to go do it. I've
fastened it anyway. I'm with you
49:03
on everything so far, but I've
got my conclusion is different
49:06
than yours.
49:08
Adam Curry: By the way the
Maduro dam is in The Hague. I'm
49:10
sorry. It's not between Hague
and Rotterdam, thanks to NPC.
49:13
Alright, what's your conclusion?
49:16
John C Dvorak: We're going to
we're gearing up to actually do
49:19
an invasion. boots on the ground
American soldiers.
49:22
Adam Curry: No, absolutely not.
We're gearing up to end the war.
49:26
And we're doing it with all
these fluffy we're and the way
49:29
we do it is we come up with we
come up with a way to take the
49:34
money that we confiscated,
illegal way back for the crimes
49:38
of aggression. Then we prosecute
Putin in the capital of the
49:44
legal capital of the world, just
like we did before. So what
49:48
better place to meet than here
in The Hague, the legal capital
49:52
of the world ever since the
downing of Flight MH 17 in the
49:57
Netherlands have known that
Justice doesn't come
50:01
automatically. And this was mh
17, the Malaysian flight which
50:04
they
50:05
John C Dvorak: rigged, the
rigged report never been
50:08
released. The box has never been
released as phony the same.
50:13
They're just making the Hague
look like a phony baloney
50:16
operation when he brings that
in.
50:18
Adam Curry: And they brought in
Bellingcat. The same the same
50:22
intelligence operation who had
all the proof of the boot rocket
50:26
being shot from Russia. No, he
was Ukraine. We I mean, man, we
50:30
did so much on it. We had so
much coverage of that. So he's
50:33
pulling these two together. And
of course, that's just over now.
50:37
Oh, no, no, we already know that
doesn't come easily. But but you
50:39
know, it we all know it's as
good as it's as good as we
50:43
basically have him hanging Putin
for MH 17 And we'll hang him for
50:48
this too, so that everybody can
take the money final payout.
50:51
Everybody gets their cash.
That's what's going on. I make
50:56
some tea. We in the Netherlands
have known that justice doesn't
51:00
come automatically. You have to
have staying power.
51:04
John C Dvorak: Setting power.
That means you need to buy
51:08
deodorant commercially the
51:09
Adam Curry: Viagra of law I
don't I don't know what kind of
51:12
state and power you need. But
that's weird. Let's have known
51:15
you know the State Department.
Hey, hey, I know I was putting
51:19
some funny was putting the
staying power just see if anyone
51:21
catches it make make that Rick
root guy say that make him say
51:25
that. Okay, that's cool. Did
justice doesn't come
51:28
automatically. You have to have
staying power. The Netherlands
51:32
will do everything it can to
ensure that justice is done for
51:36
Ukraine, however long it takes.
And however difficult it may be.
51:41
It's the term is whatever it
takes. But okay. Flow to me, I
51:45
should know your fish to the
Netherlands couldn't have come
51:48
at the more symbolic moment.
Every year. On the fourth of May
51:52
we remember the Dutch victims of
the Second World War, and all
51:56
the soldiers who have given
their life since then, for peace
51:59
and freedom worldwide. Tomorrow
on the fifth of May Liberation
52:04
Day, we are fortunate that we
can celebrate that we have been
52:08
a free country since 1945. And a
lot of Dutch are pissed about
52:12
this. Like what is that guy
doing here? This is a this is
52:15
our war remembrance. For our
people. The country was
52:20
flattened. people ate sugar
beets. They ate nettle soup with
52:23
rocks. So now Now, I'm not
liking that. So Zelinsky then
52:29
goes to the International
Criminal Court and does a little
52:34
bit and I'm not going to tell
you what the backdrop. All these
52:37
things have a backdrop with
their slogan. And it was a
52:40
printed slogan, which I'm not
going to tell you just yet,
52:43
because the term is used in this
report from France 24. Luckily,
52:46
we don't have to listen to him
talking. We have the F 24. Lady
52:50
to tell us kind of exactly what
Volodymyr said in this. In this
53:00
speech at the International
Criminal Court.
53:02
Unknown: He also talked about
the importance of justice that
53:08
there can be no peace without
justice.
53:11
Adam Curry: Literally on the
background and said no peace for
53:15
Ukraine without justice. Does
that sound familiar?
53:19
John C Dvorak: That's one of our
one of our lefty slogans from
53:21
the United States.
53:22
Adam Curry: No, George Floyd, No
justice, no peace. Yeah,
53:25
John C Dvorak: there's a George
Floyd. Yep. So we made it. But
53:27
it's been around forever, that
it's always the same thing.
53:30
Adam Curry: But but now they've
just turned it around and said,
53:33
there will be no peace for
Ukraine without justice. So what
53:37
they're saying is in the way I
see it, is we will call peace
53:41
after we have justice. What is
justice, that means we convict
53:44
Putin, we don't have to throw
him in jail. We have just like
53:47
mh 17 We convict him. We take
the money that we confiscated,
53:52
and then we make peace.
53:53
Unknown: He also talked about
the importance of justice, that
53:59
there can be no peace without
justice, because unless issues
54:02
are fully properly resolved,
they simply erupt again later
54:05
on. For him, it is vital that
Vladimir Putin is held to
54:10
account at this court, he made
no bones about that. And he also
54:14
said that that should be
stipulated in any negotiated
54:19
peace agreement that there must
be no repetition of aggression,
54:24
Adam Curry: repetition of
aggression, all that horrible
54:27
crime, again, by Russia,
54:28
Unknown: towards Ukraine. So he
is very clearly setting out his
54:33
points. It is true that Ukraine
might not get all at once and
54:37
there is a lot of discussion
about when this war might end,
54:42
and what might constitute some
sort of acceptable settlement to
54:47
Ukraine. So it's about the money
and there are murmurings that
54:51
perhaps Ukraine should settle
for the 2014 borders and forget
54:58
about Crimea. He is saying No
way, we want Crimea back. We
55:02
want our territory. And we want
our values, which are universal
55:07
values respected.
55:12
Adam Curry: So that's new. He's
not gonna get he's not gonna get
55:15
Crimea. He's just he just using
that as a chip. We need
55:19
universal values back to the
back to the 94. What did you
55:23
say? 9094? Let
55:25
John C Dvorak: me say they had a
date I forget what it was just
55:28
check it.
55:28
Unknown: Was it this one? Hey,
oh, I have to rewind. There we
55:32
go.
55:33
Let's forget about Crimea. He is
saying No way. Was it here for
55:38
the 2014 borders
55:42
Adam Curry: 2014 borders, okay,
which is, which is kind of what
55:45
Putin wants. So we get to 2014
borders back to which is the
55:50
Donbass region, which may be
just a demilitarized zone. And
55:54
then you get your money, which
is kind of ABS it's probably
55:57
already been stolen by now. So
everyone already hadn't. Lansky
56:01
has billions and offshore bank
accounts. This is coming to an
56:05
end. So I do not think there's
boots on the ground coming. And
56:08
the reason for that is this next
report, which is obvious what
56:12
what everyone's looking at
because what do we have we have
56:16
a dinky toy dipshit drone flying
over the Kremlin. Volodymyr
56:22
saying we don't have we don't
have we don't have this
56:25
capability. Now because it's all
over here, bro.
56:28
Unknown: Well, the Taiwan US
Defense Industry Forum was an
56:31
event where people gathered
mainly to discuss how to buy and
56:35
sell more weapons. It lasted
around three hours it took place
56:38
with a convention center in
Taipei and representatives of
56:42
around 25 US defense contractors
reportedly attended and days
56:46
before here in Beijing, the
spokesman of China's defense
56:49
ministry said that he was quote
unquote, extremely concerned
56:52
about the forum he criticized
the US as military industrial
56:56
complex and accused Taiwan's
ruling DPP of inviting wolves
57:00
into their home. There's also
been a few editorials that were
57:03
published in Chinese state media
criticizing the event last week
57:08
in the past few days. So we
haven't seen much new this
57:11
Wednesday morning, though we
have recorded an uptick in
57:15
Chinese military activity in
around the Taiwan Strait. And it
57:19
is a little bit too early to
save this has a direct link to
57:23
that event or not. What I can
say though, is that the forum
57:26
isn't really much of a big deal.
If you look at the bigger
57:28
picture, the US has already sold
10s of billions of dollars worth
57:32
of weapons to Taipei since 1979.
And earlier this year,
57:37
Washington approved the sale of
$619 million worth of weapons,
57:41
including F 16. fighter jet to
Taipei, that was the biggest
57:45
sale of 2023. So far. So these
activities aren't going to stop
57:49
anytime soon. These deals do do
come though, as Beijing has been
57:54
ramping up pressure military and
political pressure on the self
57:58
Rhode Island in recent years.
58:00
Adam Curry: So we'll do whatever
it takes for Ukraine. But the f6
58:04
teams that go into Taiwan
biggest sale of the year. This
58:10
is it. This is the Bonanza they
don't give a crap about Ukraine.
58:14
John C Dvorak: We're putting
boots on the ground. That's why
58:16
Susan Rice quick.
58:18
Adam Curry: She's She's running
mic Obama's campaign, bro.
58:22
John C Dvorak: Whatever it takes
is a term that keeps coming up.
58:25
And the only way Biden is going
to stand off as he thinks is if
58:29
he gets foot feet on the ground,
because that's the way you
58:32
always Americans always think,
well, you know, you're in a
58:34
conflict. We can't abandon our
president now.
58:38
Adam Curry: Yes, I read the
newsletter. And that is that is
58:42
sent in edit. No, I'm sorry. I
was out doing important things.
58:48
There was nothing to edit, do
you? It was fine. I didn't see
58:50
any mistakes. But I'm sorry.
You're right. I got distracted.
58:54
And that was it. I was prepping
for the show. That is a that is
59:00
certainly a playbook American
presidents have used but he is
59:03
being taken down. He's been
being taken down by the Democrat
59:07
Party. He's a marked man.
There's no way and they're just
59:11
enlisting the Republicans now. I
didn't know what is wrong with
59:17
this weather with what's wrong
with this clip. Now, why won't
59:19
this play? Let me say
59:22
John C Dvorak: I want to mention
something I did get a note from
59:24
one of our producers who's in
the army who said that he's over
59:27
there. And he says the reporting
about soldiers in Ukraine
59:31
already is not being handled at
all by the mainstream media. And
59:37
I'm telling you, something's up.
59:39
Unknown: Hold on a second. I
have it here. Oh, this is really
59:43
weird. This clip, it's got this
whole Grassley thing. I wonder
59:48
what's gonna happen to this
clip. You've heard about this.
59:52
The the here we got to see if I
play it this way. Maybe this
59:55
will work. Let me say
59:59
Adam Curry: that Yeah, listen to
this. Listen, I don't know why
1:00:01
it's not playing my regular
system. Here we go. Senator. I
1:00:03
Unknown: know you've also just
issued a statement on you, as
1:00:06
well as your colleague James
Comer demanding the FBI record
1:00:12
on alleging criminal, this
criminal scheme involving then
1:00:16
Vice President Biden, this
congressional subpoena, you say
1:00:20
seeks a specific FBI document.
Senator, thank you for jumping
1:00:24
on with us. What
1:00:25
can you tell us? Well, I will
only add to what you say that
1:00:29
this comes from credible and on
classified whistleblower
1:00:35
disclosures, this possible
criminal activity when Biden was
1:00:39
vice president. And we're, we
want this information. And
1:00:44
there's a subpoena going to be
areas issued now. And it really
1:00:49
boils down to my traditional
oversight of government.
1:00:55
Particularly see the executive
branch's doing the work that
1:01:00
they're supposed to be doing. So
the Justice Department, the FBI
1:01:04
needs to come clean to the
American people what they did
1:01:07
with the document, because we
know the document exists from
1:01:12
very credible whistleblower
information that we got. We can
1:01:19
we really need to know what
steps did the Justice Department
1:01:22
and FBI take to investigate? And
to vet the document to determine
1:01:28
if it's accurate or not? And did
the Justice Department the FBI
1:01:33
follow normal investigative
procedures? Or did they let
1:01:37
political calculations
interfere?
1:01:40
Adam Curry: So it's a double
whammy? Which is of course what
1:01:43
Obama does Obama is run by the
CIA. So we blame the FBI and we
1:01:47
get Biden out for an actual
crime, not something his kid
1:01:50
did. No for an actual crime on
US soil. This is a setup and you
1:01:56
called it you call that you call
the takedown of Biden. Now you
1:02:00
know, your was
1:02:00
John C Dvorak: fighting back and
he's going to fight back by
1:02:03
sending troops to Ukraine.
That's the way he's gonna fight
1:02:07
back. While he knows what's
what's going on.
1:02:10
Adam Curry: Wow. Yeah, okay.
Well, but the military
1:02:15
industrial complex, they don't
want
1:02:18
John C Dvorak: it. They're just,
they're just looking at their
1:02:20
bank accounts.
1:02:22
Adam Curry: They're all in
Taiwan with the ladies of the
1:02:24
night.
1:02:24
John C Dvorak: Well, that's more
money. It's just more money. And
1:02:27
the 60s, you know, who gives a
shit those things? You got to
1:02:30
face those things out and
started selling the expensive F
1:02:32
30? Fives.
1:02:35
Adam Curry: The dog the dog that
don't fly.
1:02:38
Unknown: Flies, tell me what.
1:02:42
Adam Curry: Meanwhile, while all
this is going down in 2023 It's
1:02:46
unbelievable. But there's still
a whole country that will stop
1:02:50
dead in its tracks to watch an
old dude with an old bag getting
1:02:54
a golden golden coach and be
turned into the king.
1:02:59
Unknown: Anti monarchy
protesters in the UK are under
1:03:02
close watch. Ahead of the
coronation. The British Home
1:03:05
Office has issued a warning
letter saying planned peaceful
1:03:08
protests on coronation day will
be firmly blocked.
1:03:11
Adam Curry: I love planned
peaceful protests. In the US
1:03:14
Those are cool even during
COVID. There they will be
1:03:17
blocked
1:03:17
Unknown: strong measures are in
place to prevent any disruptive
1:03:20
activity. A new law will enable
12 months imprisonment for
1:03:24
protesters blocking roads,
airports and railways unless it
1:03:28
from the home offices police
powers unit says the law has
1:03:31
been brought to prevent
disruption at major sporting and
1:03:34
cultural events blocking process
of the king of the climate
1:03:38
activists have unleashed the law
also lays down six months in
1:03:42
jail and a fine for protesters
locking onto other objects
1:03:46
including buildings like mark of
protest.
1:03:49
This is great.
1:03:51
John C Dvorak: You can name it
activists.
1:03:53
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, the climate
activist even though he's the
1:03:55
climate guy is like
1:03:57
John C Dvorak: a climate nut
ball. These are they should be
1:04:00
pleased as punch that this guy's
getting in
1:04:03
Adam Curry: now, but that's
because they're they're bold.
1:04:05
They're bold. They're both by
the way the members of the
1:04:10
public had been invited to swear
their allegiance to the king.
1:04:14
They have people around the UK
and abroad who will be invited
1:04:20
to say the words I swear I will
pay true allegiance to Your
1:04:24
Majesty and Your heirs and
successors according to the law.
1:04:28
So help me God says
1:04:31
Unknown: onto other objects
including buildings as a mark of
1:04:34
protest right police powers to
stop and search protesters if
1:04:39
they suspect they're planning to
cause chaos anti monarchy group
1:04:42
Republic described the letter as
very odd. The group has been
1:04:46
planning protests on coronation
day, their boundaries to read
1:04:50
knots making reports say are the
units like Climate Group
1:04:54
extinction rebellion have been
sent similar lunches. Many
1:04:58
groups have his house what they
called certain action by the
1:05:01
home office. They call this a
restriction of freedom of speech
1:05:05
and right to a peaceful and
legitimate protest.
1:05:08
Adam Curry: Well, of course the
UK is is a speech free zone,
1:05:12
man. As in you can't use any.
1:05:16
John C Dvorak: Yeah and go to
the corner Speaker's Corner if
1:05:19
you
1:05:19
Adam Curry: remember I went
there on Tina, I were in the UK,
1:05:21
it was nobody there.
1:05:23
John C Dvorak: I've been there a
number of times I stay at a
1:05:25
place that's nearby. When I'm in
London. We
1:05:28
Adam Curry: were there more
recent than us. Probably. Yeah.
1:05:31
There's
1:05:32
John C Dvorak: been anybody
there. I first time I was in
1:05:34
there. And Alana was in 1973.
There was nobody there. I
1:05:37
Adam Curry: was there in 19.
See, I was 15. So that makes me
1:05:44
76. My dad took me and we went
to Speaker's Corner. I was very
1:05:50
impressed. And there was no a
one or two guys standing on the
1:05:53
corner there talking to us.
1:05:55
John C Dvorak: Socialist. Yeah.
1:05:58
Adam Curry: But yeah, you can't
say anything on social media.
1:06:00
You can't do anything there
anything. And now he's like, Oh,
1:06:04
you want a peaceful protest? No,
no, six months in jail. No.
1:06:09
Peaceful protest. No, no
peaceful protest for
1:06:11
John C Dvorak: Yeah, happy. Now
if we're going to talk about
1:06:13
this topic, and I want to
mention here that I've been
1:06:17
listening to some more podcasts
than usual. Yeah, they spend
1:06:21
hours on one topic. The Royals
were on no any one topic. Yeah.
1:06:28
We've already on our fourth
topic here. Yeah. So let's go to
1:06:33
so now I've got NPR is decided
to become the frontman row and
1:06:39
and promoter of Camilla
1:06:42
Unknown: really, really the
HorseFace
1:06:45
John C Dvorak: Do you want a
listen to a report that is so
1:06:49
disgusting. It's like a
hagiography just over the air of
1:06:55
Camilla and the whole setup the
whole thing? It's, it's to me
1:07:00
it's remarkable. It's I
1:07:01
Adam Curry: think, yes, I do, of
course. And it feels to me like
1:07:03
this is very wrong. Certainly
the NPR listening audience. I
1:07:08
believe that they were that the
NPR audience is Lady die Fans.
1:07:13
And if you're a Lady Diana fan,
which I would say I was a fan. I
1:07:18
mean, she I disagree with the
whole story. You know, boohoo
1:07:22
poor poor princess now now she
was a she was a media whore. And
1:07:26
she liked it. And that
eventually got her killed. But
1:07:30
you know how she was treated
versus Camilla. Camilla is just
1:07:34
she is Beelzebub compared to
Lady die.
1:07:38
John C Dvorak: Well, we're gonna
hear the update on this because
1:07:40
we have one of the key experts
in pushing boo boos narratives
1:07:45
coming on. But let's go with
Camilla one NPR
1:07:49
Unknown: over the past several
decades. The one time Camilla
1:07:52
Parker Bowles has been known as
many things.
1:07:55
Adam Curry: By the way, I think
we should all go by our full
1:07:57
middle names Adam Clark curry
and John Charles Dvorak and
1:08:00
Camilla Parker Bowles
1:08:01
Unknown: of the rakish Brigadier
Andrew Parker Bowles, girlfriend
1:08:05
of the heir to the throne. But
most of all the other woman in
1:08:09
what turned out to be the not so
fairytale marriage of Charles
1:08:12
and Diana. And this Saturday,
she will officially have a new
1:08:16
title Queen Tina Brown wrote the
palace papers inside the House
1:08:21
of Windsor. And she's on the
line to talk with us about
1:08:23
kimolos winding journey. Tina,
welcome back to the show. Thank
1:08:26
you so much. For Americans who
are not obsessed with the Royals
1:08:30
and who might know Camilla
mainly for her role in the
1:08:33
breakup of King Charles is then
Prince Charles's first marriage
1:08:37
reminds us of her background
separate from Charles,
1:08:40
Adam Curry: this is so not left
this obsessed,
1:08:43
Unknown: obsessed, obsessed with
the queen obsessed with the
1:08:46
Royals at fest.
1:08:48
Adam Curry: It's something that
all American women, for some
1:08:51
reason get to get a day off from
being political, and they can
1:08:55
all be obsessed. Oh, I love the
hat. I love the coach. It's a
1:08:58
fairy tale. It's it's weird.
1:09:02
John C Dvorak: Now, this
particular presentation, I find
1:09:05
to be completely offensive. And
they bring in Tina Brown who is
1:09:10
famous and she's like, I don't
know if she's royal washer, a
1:09:13
royal watch. Well, I mean, she's
the one who started Vanity Fair.
1:09:16
She's a very famous editor. And
you bring her in to do a hatchet
1:09:22
job of some sort or some
professional, not a hit job in
1:09:26
this case, but a flattery job.
And so we're going to be re
1:09:30
educated about the greatness of
Camilla now say you're way off
1:09:36
with your data analysis yours
that's old. That's the old
1:09:40
analysis, did a new analysis I
want you to stay I want to ask
1:09:44
her.
1:09:47
Adam Curry: Well, of course this
is you know, we have a special
1:09:49
relationship between the US and
the UK. So every person who has
1:09:54
authority to speak of the Royals
has to have like we had to be a
1:09:59
friend of so One or been at
parties. So what do we know what
1:10:04
her connection was what Tina
Brown's connection
1:10:08
John C Dvorak: if you go to a
wiki page and start looking at
1:10:10
you'll see there's some deep
connection to Kingsman or
1:10:15
something who knows. Let's go to
part two of these clips coming
1:10:19
to
1:10:19
Unknown: comes from a very upper
class squire rocky kind of a
1:10:22
background. Her father was a
major, very, very, extremely
1:10:26
well regarded veteran hero
actually, in the Second World
1:10:30
War. Her mother was an
aristocrat, so she always was
1:10:33
raised in the extremely sort of
aristocratic Millia of a country
1:10:37
debutante if you like in on the
Sussex down so her whole her
1:10:41
circle was always extremely
upper class bumping up against
1:10:45
Royals in every conceivable
shape and form.
1:10:47
I've always thought of Charles
as sort of a stiff kind of
1:10:50
awkward person, although he's
grown into his role over the
1:10:53
years. What is her reputation?
1:10:57
Adam Curry: What is this NPR
lady? No. He was he was always a
1:11:02
little bit stiff.
1:11:03
John C Dvorak: But no, this is
like scripted. You're weird.
1:11:05
This is so scripted. It this is
i It's almost like an advert. A
1:11:12
one of those phony baloney ads.
It's like it's almost like an
1:11:15
advertisement.
1:11:16
Adam Curry: Is she referring to
a native ad? Is she referring to
1:11:19
the time when we had the the
leaked phone call of Prince
1:11:22
Charles saying to Camilla I wish
it was your tampon? Is that Is
1:11:26
that what she means? Really,
then he kind of grew into his
1:11:28
role
1:11:29
Unknown: either will shape and
form.
1:11:30
I've always thought of Charles
as sort of a stiff kind of
1:11:33
awkward personal though he's
grown into his role over the
1:11:36
years. What is her reputation or
the public sensibilities? No,
1:11:40
this
1:11:40
always wildly attractive,
tremendously earthy,
1:11:45
earthy, earthy.
1:11:48
Absolutely. times you know,
Compeller really was and indeed
1:11:52
her her brother and sister were
very appealing to they were
1:11:54
known as the sexy fans because
the Shan family she was you
1:11:57
know, Camilla Shand? You know,
they were very appealing country
1:12:01
family, always the sort of toast
of every debutante party and
1:12:04
hold on so she was a very
appealing woman and she could
1:12:06
have really married anyone. She
was definitely extremely popular
1:12:10
on the on the sort of, you know,
the single woman's circuit.
1:12:13
Well, you say appealing, but
what
1:12:16
Adam Curry: else did she date on
the single woman circuit? Who
1:12:19
else
1:12:20
John C Dvorak: they go they
present this and then of course,
1:12:23
her next commentary is kind of
again is different. She presents
1:12:30
her as like some hottie back in
the day, and the toast of the
1:12:35
town and you know, her and her
siblings, and so so that she's
1:12:42
she's developing this, this,
this narrative that is just it's
1:12:48
hard to believe
1:12:49
Adam Curry: let me finish let me
finish this clip. There's 22
1:12:51
seconds left home
1:12:53
Unknown: definitely are
extremely popular on the on the
1:12:55
sort of, you know, the single
woman's circuit.
1:12:57
Well, you say appealing, but
there was a point where she was
1:13:00
one of the most hated women in
Britain, I believe the year
1:13:03
after she married Charles, which
was 2005. A poll for The Times
1:13:06
of London found only 21% of the
British public would be happy to
1:13:10
have her as queen. But last
year, just a few days after
1:13:13
Queen Elizabeth died, a
different poll showed that 53%
1:13:16
of the British public thought
she'd do a good job in her new
1:13:18
role. How does she manage that
turnaround?
1:13:21
Adam Curry: I don't see any
dating history of her on the
1:13:24
wiki pedia. When she did launch
the big bone walk campaign,
1:13:30
whatever that is. Wow.
1:13:35
John C Dvorak: Okay, so we're
that was clip one, clip two,
1:13:38
part three. Okay, well, let's go
with Step Three because now we
1:13:41
get the WTF clip.
1:13:42
Unknown: Well, first of all, you
know, that's the reason she was
1:13:45
so unpopular was really because
she was always seen through the
1:13:47
prism of being, you know, the
usurper of the adored Princess
1:13:52
Diana. So you know, Diana used
to call her the Rottweiler and
1:13:56
you know, she was not a glamour
girl come in or at any point I
1:13:59
mean, part of her is that this
is a woman who likes to wear
1:14:02
Adam Curry: I thought she was
the hottie hottie on the on the
1:14:05
John C Dvorak: braid there but
she was never the glamour girl
1:14:08
that Auntie at any point
1:14:10
Adam Curry: she's the Yoko of
the Royals man. Come on. Wait
1:14:13
John C Dvorak: a minute. Just
the clip before this. She's
1:14:15
going on about she was a hottie
and she was the queen of the
1:14:19
dead, retired anybody gotten
married anybody? Blah, blah,
1:14:22
blah. And now she's never been
anything but. But a Rottweiler
1:14:26
or whatever that was. I
1:14:27
Adam Curry: can't believe we're
doing a whole segment on this.
1:14:31
John C Dvorak: It's just
deconstruction of NPR. Yeah,
1:14:34
that's
1:14:34
Adam Curry: a good point. They
did anyway, onward that you know
1:14:37
what? Elon Musk is right. They
don't deserve to have the
1:14:41
John C Dvorak: total agreement.
1:14:42
Unknown: And you know, she was
not a glamour girl. committer at
1:14:45
any point, I mean, part of her
appeal. He likes to wear
1:14:48
comfortable shoes that she
doesn't like to get funny and
1:14:51
Adam Curry: comfortable shoes
because she doesn't like to get
1:14:54
that's hot on the dating scene.
1:14:57
John C Dvorak: Great. She wears
comfortable shoes because she
1:15:00
doesn't like to get bunions.
Tony that's
1:15:03
Adam Curry: literally in a world
where women wear comfortable
1:15:05
shoes. This is horrible.
1:15:08
Unknown: She's because she
doesn't like to get bunions you
1:15:11
know she has gardeners hands in
the sense that you know, rather
1:15:13
gardeners
1:15:14
Adam Curry: hands test oh my god
I've met this chick she's so
1:15:17
hot. She's wearing Crocs and
she's got bunions. Gardener
1:15:21
hands, man all like crooked and
crap. Oh, I can't wait to bagger
1:15:24
Unknown: you know, she has
gotten his hands in the sense of
1:15:27
you know, rather dirty
fingernails from her plunging
1:15:29
into amongst the greenery. A
real kind of dog walker covered
1:15:32
in dog has you know, she's not a
glamour woman.
1:15:35
Wow.
1:15:37
Adam Curry: All right, you know,
just because I don't know why I
1:15:39
have this. I have to give this
to you just right now.
1:15:43
Unknown: That is wow. Wow.
1:15:47
John C Dvorak: A clip of the day
after you're complaining.
1:15:51
Adam Curry: This was this is
horrible. Tina Brock. Wow. I all
1:15:56
I can say is wow, I've said it
too many times already. Man,
1:16:00
John C Dvorak: it's
unbelievable. I know this. So
1:16:02
here we go with the UG clip.
This is a clip for
1:16:06
Unknown: and unfortunately for
her or you know, people knew
1:16:08
nothing really about her because
she was so very, very private.
1:16:11
Her friends knew she was this
extraordinary, attractive and
1:16:14
appealing woman but you know, in
terms of the public feeling
1:16:16
about her, they saw her through
Diana's eyes which was usurper
1:16:19
and she had to have that stigma
and the press went after her was
1:16:23
such viciousness. I mean, the
really appalling sexist comments
1:16:26
about Kamala, I mean, they used
to call her, you know, Baghel
1:16:29
trout. You know.
1:16:33
Adam Curry: I've never heard old
trout. I think that's a winner
1:16:38
show title
1:16:38
Unknown: spaciousness. I mean,
the really appalling sexist
1:16:41
comments about Kamala, I mean,
they used to call her you know,
1:16:44
Baghel trout,
1:16:46
Adam Curry: which were I mean,
she called her lady with
1:16:47
gardener hands a dog lady, by
the way. How can old trout be
1:16:52
bad? Passes? This is NPR man.
Crazy press
1:16:58
Unknown: Control. NAFTA was such
viciousness. I mean, the really
1:17:02
appalling sexist comments about
Kamala, I mean, they used to
1:17:04
call her, you know, Baghel
trout. You know, I mean, there
1:17:08
was even a dish named after her
as haddock, Parker Bowles. I
1:17:12
mean, just the rudest thing had
to the point that she used to
1:17:15
joke to Charles and assign her
letter to him. You're devoted
1:17:18
old bag, Camilla. Because she'd
been called it so often.
1:17:22
Sounds like she was a good sport
about the abuse. Yes,
1:17:24
she had a great sense of humor
that was part of her strength.
1:17:26
So do you think over time
1:17:27
the public has forgiven her and
it thinks, look, this is a
1:17:31
legitimate relationship? Is it
legitimate love between these
1:17:33
two? And we've time time healed
how the public felt about her?
1:17:36
Well, yes, because she's now
been a working royal for 20
1:17:39
years actually really want
nearly 20 years. I mean, as well
1:17:41
as wife of Charles, there has
been an acceptance, I mean, in
1:17:45
some ways, because Charles now
becomes king so late, and she's
1:17:48
a woman of 75. After all, she
has now become sort of the
1:17:51
nation's grandmother and is sort
of on her way to becoming sort
1:17:54
of a national treasure. So
having kind of getting the
1:17:57
reward, as it were so late has
really been beneficial to her
1:18:01
because earlier, I don't think
the public would have accepted
1:18:04
it. But they're beginning to see
that she's a very hardworking,
1:18:06
very gracious, humorous,
unpretentious woman actually,
1:18:09
who has definitely improved
Charles's life and has really
1:18:11
transformed him into being an
unapologetically happy man.
1:18:16
Adam Curry: Oh, he looks so
happy, doesn't he?
1:18:18
John C Dvorak: Yeah, yeah. Now
you all should
1:18:21
Adam Curry: be ashamed of
themselves. don't donate to NPR.
1:18:25
John C Dvorak: Know give us the
money Yeah, really. So so I get
1:18:29
this last clip and like I say,
Keep listening to this thinking
1:18:32
there's got to be some things
someone some talent some what
1:18:37
happened here, why am I
listening to Tina Brown, doing
1:18:41
shtick and then also trying to
be so complimentary in some sort
1:18:45
of a propagandist ik way? There
must be a rationale. There must
1:18:50
be something something Ah, here
it comes and clip five see if
1:18:53
you can find it.
1:18:54
Unknown: In Prince Harry's very
popular recent memoir. He was
1:18:57
very critical of her and I
suppose like any blended family,
1:19:01
let's call it the Windsors have
some complicated relationship.
1:19:03
Is
1:19:03
Adam Curry: that a racist
comment blended family is that
1:19:06
because the Harry did not catch
that? Is that is that like
1:19:12
people of color? Is that what
they mean? blended? Interesting
1:19:15
and catch let's just call it
blended
1:19:18
Unknown: racist in Prince
Harry's very popular recent
1:19:21
memoir. He was very critical of
her and I suppose like any
1:19:24
blended family, let's call it
the Windsors have some
1:19:27
complicated relationships to
navigate. But he accused her of
1:19:30
feeding the press and negative
stories about him so she could
1:19:32
get better Press Is that likely
to contaminate how Brits feel
1:19:36
about her?
1:19:37
Well, I think there was a period
when Charles to really
1:19:40
rehabilitate both his own image
and that of Camilla after the
1:19:44
death of Diana hired a quite
resourceful, shall we say
1:19:49
sophisticated press secretary
who was all about making her
1:19:52
reputation better and making
Charles's reputation but Harry
1:19:55
felt strongly that he and
William was sometimes thrown
1:19:58
under the bus for the sake of
their father. And for Camila's
1:20:00
PR, you know, I think that Harry
also does very much see that
1:20:04
through the furious, you know
lens of being the son of you
1:20:08
know the beloved Diana, his
wonderful mother. The only real
1:20:11
misery in her life was this
figure, Camilla so it's not
1:20:14
really unlikely that Harry would
feel so strongly about it
1:20:18
because all his life he was
raised to think of her as the
1:20:20
enemy.
1:20:22
John C Dvorak: The PR woman,
then talented PR woman is still
1:20:28
working for them. And Tina Brown
was to it. I guess she had to
1:20:34
mention it
1:20:35
Unknown: because she has her
friends with her she's friends.
1:20:38
And so she
1:20:39
John C Dvorak: mentioned it and
you next thing I'm thinking oh,
1:20:42
this whole thing is a setup. The
PR woman arranged it this is
1:20:47
just a hagiography kind of
things. You probably pay Tina
1:20:50
straight from the Royal budget.
Yeah, who knows? Well, it is a
1:20:55
scam
1:20:56
Adam Curry: and I think NPR
jumped on it because they want
1:20:59
some of that Harry and Megan
juice. You know, because that's
1:21:02
been very successful. It's been
very profitable. There Netflix
1:21:06
show has been you know, that was
one of the top viewed Netflix
1:21:10
shows ever. Yeah, so they're
just going for some cheap ass
1:21:14
ratings. With a with a cheap
couple in a cheap ass coach is
1:21:21
cheap, cheap ass. It's just
cheap has been big, cheap ass
1:21:26
thing. All right, I gotta
lighten the mood here for a
1:21:27
second. I need to tell you a
little story. That was pretty
1:21:31
light. I know but I'm gonna go
light into heavier stuff but
1:21:34
through a through a more modern
a modern conflict so the old
1:21:41
rockers are still out and about.
And Gene Simmons, I don't know
1:21:47
what he's doing. But he was he
was like, Hey, if you don't get
1:21:50
the COVID shot you should die.
So gene gene was a dick but Paul
1:21:57
Stanley of Kiss he's the guitar
player key is you know did
1:22:04
something very controversial.
Now these guys are all have a
1:22:08
Stanley's gotta be almost 70
These guys are all up there. And
1:22:12
I know them all and they're
interesting dudes you but you
1:22:14
know, they're still playing the
you know, the Connecticut fair
1:22:17
or whatever the kids probably
does is concealed draw big
1:22:20
audiences. And he posted about
trans Maoism. Doors we call
1:22:28
that's what we call it, but in
general is about transgender
1:22:32
children, you know about gender
affirming care. We've talked
1:22:36
about this. He says my thoughts
on what I'm seeing. There's a
1:22:39
big difference between teaching
acceptance and normalizing and
1:22:41
even encouraging participation
and a lifestyle that confuses
1:22:45
young children into questioning
their sexual identification, as
1:22:48
though some sort of game and
then the parents in some cases
1:22:51
allow it. There are individuals
who as adults may decide
1:22:55
reassignment is their needed
choice. But turning this into a
1:22:58
game or parents normalizing it
as some sort of natural
1:23:00
alternative. Or believing that
because little boy likes to play
1:23:03
dress up in his sister clothes
or a girl in her brother's we
1:23:06
should lead them steps further
down a path that's far from the
1:23:10
innocence of what they are
doing. With many children who
1:23:13
have no real sense of sexuality
or sexual experience caught up
1:23:16
in the fun of using pronouns and
seeing what they identify as
1:23:20
some adults mistakenly confuse
teaching acceptance with
1:23:24
normalizing and encouraging a
situation that has been a
1:23:26
struggle for those truly
affected and if turned into a
1:23:29
sad and dangerous fad. Well,
slow clap Tiffany pen tap for
1:23:34
Paul Stanley. This is good,
right? So yes, okay, Paul, you
1:23:39
know, of course, you know, it's
just a tweet now. Oh, the world
1:23:43
comes to an end. Oh, no. Oh,
boy. Paul Stanley, what does he
1:23:48
say now? Parallel to this a few
weeks ago, I didn't mention on
1:23:51
the show because D Schneider is
a drip. Then on D Snyder is the
1:23:57
lead singer of Twisted Sister
that pretty much only had one
1:24:01
hit. We're not going to take it
and and I'm sure that he wrote
1:24:05
it. I don't know who else I
should have checked out who else
1:24:07
wrote the song. But when you
have a song like that, you can
1:24:11
do you get your royalties and
you know, the the song is played
1:24:16
over and over and over again.
It's played in venues it's
1:24:19
played all over the world. It's
played as an anthem for all
1:24:21
kinds of stuff. It's it's one of
those pits that you could it's
1:24:24
like like writing White
Christmas almost. The money just
1:24:28
always comes in a you can always
dress up with the eye makeup.
1:24:31
Get your get your glam on get
your high heels on because
1:24:34
that's what Twisted Sister was
you know the name Twisted
1:24:36
Sister. And you can always just
do gigs you can because all you
1:24:40
have to do is have 10 songs.
five songs a do we're not going
1:24:44
to take it three times. And
that's our show. Good night,
1:24:47
Connecticut. And I'm happy that
you remember. This must have
1:24:53
been 2010 2011 Maybe Yeah.
Howard Stern interviewed me for
1:24:59
Sirius X Sam, and I made a pitch
to Howard Stern. I said, Hey,
1:25:03
you know, I'm authorized, which
I wasn't. But we knew we could
1:25:08
get the money. I said, But I'm
offered to offer you Howard
1:25:11
Stern $100 million to leave
Syria, I think is his contract
1:25:15
was up for renegotiation
renegotiation to leave Sirius
1:25:18
XM, be come over to pod show,
and we'll make a podcasting star
1:25:23
out if you remember this.
1:25:26
John C Dvorak: I do remember
this. Yeah.
1:25:27
Adam Curry: In fact, we had a
big argument after this
1:25:29
interview, because you said it
was a horrible interview. And
1:25:32
they didn't mention Oh, my God,
we had a real argue I was really
1:25:36
John C Dvorak: well, yeah, you
got all bent out of shape. When
1:25:38
it was my commentary, you said
1:25:39
Adam Curry: that it was it was a
horrible interview. And I did
1:25:42
not mention no agenda once and I
was bad. And I will
1:25:45
John C Dvorak: say to me, yes.
Not mentioning no agenda is a
1:25:48
horrible interview period.
1:25:49
Adam Curry: Right. But it was
the first moment that that you
1:25:52
really hurt me. And then I said
some really hurtful things to
1:25:54
you. And it was it was not a
great moment for Adam. But also
1:25:58
you were total dick. So and but
then after that I am a total
1:26:01
dead. That's just what I
realized. That was the moment
1:26:03
I'm like, Oh, okay.
1:26:05
John C Dvorak: No, go on. Okay.
1:26:08
Adam Curry: Kara. Tito's even
doing this now. Anyway, so like
1:26:16
a week later, D Snyder calls me.
Hey, Adam. Hey, man. Wow. You
1:26:21
know, it's great. By here. John,
was Howard and Howard bibble of
1:26:24
the Howard. And Sal does
podcasting. Like God I could
1:26:28
tell me about. So I say yeah,
man. Do we have this value for
1:26:31
value model? Yeah, but what
about the money? Can you pay me
1:26:33
to do a podcast? I'm a great
podcaster I can be really good.
1:26:36
When I'm on Howard. I'm killing
it. I always kill it. And who is
1:26:39
this? Dee Snider from Twisted
Sister. Delete guy, the glam guy
1:26:44
the you know the glamour guy.
Yeah, and he's calling me and
1:26:49
he's like, he just he smells
money. He's a he's a money
1:26:53
whore. Hey, man. Oh yeah, I'm
always on Howard but I'm I kill
1:26:57
what I'm I can do a better job
than how I can do great show
1:26:59
better than Howard. Howard
Howard. Howard. Howard. I'm
1:27:01
always on Howard. Howard loves
me. I'm great that I said no.
1:27:06
You know, just for Howard the
money you're not Howard doll.
1:27:10
Come on, come on,
1:27:11
John C Dvorak: Howard. And so it
was really if you're not Howard.
1:27:15
That's what I said. Yeah, well,
that's what you Yeah, well, it's
1:27:18
like,
1:27:19
Adam Curry: well, it anyway, I
was I was like Dee Snider is a
1:27:22
dick is what I thought. That's
what I recall from this
1:27:25
conversation, but a dick. So a
few weeks ago, when more of the
1:27:30
oh, here comes a euphemism, or
not even a euphemism, anti trans
1:27:34
legislation. Meaning Tennessee
doesn't want kids to be at drag
1:27:41
shows in public places, you
know, minors now it seems like a
1:27:45
normal idea. But that is now
anti trans legislation. They
1:27:48
want to get rid of us. They want
to wipe us from the earth like
1:27:51
the Jews. They did doing the
same thing to us they did to the
1:27:54
gays. This is all over the news.
And he comes out and he says,
1:27:59
you know, this is crazy, this
anti trans legislation because I
1:28:03
can't even do my show in
Tennessee because it can be seen
1:28:07
as a drag show because you know,
he dresses up puts on the purple
1:28:11
eyeshadow. Fingernails painted.
He's got the high heels on it.
1:28:17
You know, he has one song. It's
like watching the freak show is
1:28:21
like Okay, so he's trying to
he's trying to jump because this
1:28:24
is what he is. Hey, man. I'm as
good as Howard. Hey, man, I'm as
1:28:28
good as all the trends shows.
I'll be great at a drag show.
1:28:32
I'm great.
1:28:34
John C Dvorak: God,
1:28:35
Adam Curry: you're so you
understand. You're like this
1:28:37
Unknown: guy. No, I
1:28:38
Adam Curry: don't. But you made
it clear. But you understand
1:28:42
what he's doing is he's trying.
He's trying to set himself up
1:28:45
with a popular with the popular
movement. Jumping on the band is
1:28:49
called bandwagon bag bandwagon.
Now remember, he has
1:28:53
John C Dvorak: the other the
other guy that you mentioned
1:28:55
earlier that had the commentary
on Twitter, when he finished it
1:29:00
off by saying it's a fad of this
fad thing? And I think that's
1:29:04
correct. I think this is a fad
and they will come and go.
1:29:07
Adam Curry: Which is exactly why
a D Schneider jumps on the fad.
1:29:11
Like oh, oh is a fad. I can get
in on by the way. I've got a
1:29:15
great song for the trans
community. We're not gonna take
1:29:19
it. I would like to say one of
the best glam rock songs ever no
1:29:24
doubt about it. Great song. was
now 40 years of children have
1:29:31
used this as their rebellion
song. Nothing wrong with that,
1:29:35
but that's what you got, bro.
That's all you got. And now
1:29:38
you're jumping on on the trans
band the trans fat bank
1:29:41
bandwagon. But then all the kid
all the rock guys are going Hey,
1:29:48
hey, Dee Snider? No, no, no, no,
no, no, no, we're not on board
1:29:56
with that. We're gonna Bud Light
your ass man. We don't like
1:29:59
this. No. No, you just you could
have that song, we'll go we'll
1:30:03
rock out to you. But we don't
we're not on board with the
1:30:06
trans stuff. Not the way it's
being portrayed. So he then
1:30:11
idiot, he, oh, I've got to
adjust everything. Um, what am I
1:30:16
gonna do? So he then tweets
something to Paul Stanley. And
1:30:23
this is now the subject of some
great controversy. This is local
1:30:27
news from San Francisco.
1:30:29
Unknown: San Francisco pride is
distancing itself from twisted
1:30:32
sisters D Snyder, after the
singer defended anti trans
1:30:37
tweets made by former kissing or
Paul Stanley.
1:30:40
Adam Curry: I love that this
report, by the way is going to
1:30:42
be my evergreen, nothing like
this effeminate gay guy doing
1:30:46
this report about these two old
rock guys, and this is this is
1:30:50
peak trans bullshit.
1:30:52
Unknown: This is a bit
confusing, but let me start with
1:30:54
Stanley's tweet, which was sent
on Sunday, and in a nutshell, It
1:30:58
criticizes parents who accept
their children who are
1:31:01
questioning their gender
identities. So here's what
1:31:04
happened with Schneider.
Schneider saw this tweet
1:31:08
retweeted it and added this. You
know what, there was a time
1:31:12
where I felt pretty too glad my
parents didn't jump to any rash
1:31:16
conclusions. Well said Paul
Stanley.
1:31:19
Adam Curry: So are you still
with me? You still wouldn't know
1:31:22
what's going on here. And this
saga
1:31:25
John C Dvorak: was getting
funny. So
1:31:27
Adam Curry: show now so now
pride San Francisco is mad.
1:31:32
They're mad. And there's a
reason for it. It was all secret
1:31:35
we didn't know this was
happening behind the scenes. But
1:31:38
Indy Snyder's infinite wisdom
and his never ending quest to
1:31:43
jump on the latest fad, whether
it's podcasting or pro trans or
1:31:47
anti trans pee now screwed up so
bad that the Trans Pride
1:31:54
community is mad.
1:31:56
Unknown: And here's where pride
comes into this conversation.
1:31:59
Pride had been set to announce
Twisted Sister song we're not
1:32:01
going to take it as the official
NFM of pride 2023
1:32:06
Adam Curry: So this is money in
the bank for D to have the whole
1:32:10
pride community adopting we're
not going to take it this would
1:32:15
blow life into that song. This
is another $100,000 A year Easy.
1:32:21
Easy because he wrote it he owns
it this is his This is his his
1:32:27
moneymaker shake that
moneymaker. But he pissed off
1:32:31
the wrong people.
1:32:33
Unknown: The wrong people.
1:32:34
Joining us now with the latest
on this saga is Suzanne for the
1:32:37
executive director of SF pride.
Hi, Susan.
1:32:40
Adam Curry: I ready for Suzanne.
No.
1:32:45
Unknown: Good morning, Reggie.
1:32:47
So you all disclosure here. You
are ready to roll out with the
1:32:51
Snyder interviews with the
media. It was under embargo. But
1:32:55
in a few days, you are going to
announce this partnership with D
1:32:58
Schneider and with this song. So
what was your reaction when you
1:33:03
saw this tweet?
1:33:04
Adam Curry: So I'm just gonna be
brutally honest here. Just
1:33:07
because you don't have video.
This is this is me. He may have
1:33:10
transitioned fully, but this is
a dude. Sharon, Rachel, whatever
1:33:15
his name is, and any of the
mannerisms. It's not just it's a
1:33:19
dude. It could be in Twisted
Sister. So the whole thing is
1:33:22
just blow my mind now. But the
business of it is this really
1:33:26
has screw Dee Snider has screwed
himself so badly with this.
1:33:31
Unknown: I was made me sick. I
mean, we were just I mean, we
1:33:35
were on the cusp of making this
announcement on D. Schneider was
1:33:38
going to appear on the mainstage
at SF pride and he was going to
1:33:43
be in the in the parade as a
celebrity Grand Marshal. And of
1:33:46
course we cannot. We cannot
stand by his statements. We have
1:33:51
to stand up and say that was
wrong and we can't be had to end
1:33:54
our association with him.
1:33:56
How did this begin to do
Schneider approach you and pride
1:34:01
and offer the song?
1:34:02
Well, we'd been looking for a
way to stand up to all this hate
1:34:05
out in the country, the anti
trans legislation, the anti
1:34:08
queer legislation
1:34:09
Adam Curry: and anti queer
legislation. This is new.
1:34:13
John C Dvorak: What specific
anti queer knowledge?
1:34:16
Adam Curry: I don't even know
what what it is. We can't even
1:34:18
define what is it? I don't know.
I don't know. It's I don't know.
1:34:23
Unknown: Well, we've been
looking for a way to stand up to
1:34:26
all this hate out in the
country, the anti trans
1:34:28
legislation, the anti queer
legislation, and we were looking
1:34:32
for a slogan and our PR team, I
said, this is what we need to
1:34:36
say. And they said, Well, why
don't we just say we're not
1:34:38
going to take it and that
started the process. And we did
1:34:41
reach out to their people. And D
was great. He called me and
1:34:45
said, Hey, you can use this
song. That's what this song
1:34:48
should stand for. And then of
course, he preempted that with
1:34:52
his statements supporting Paul
Stanley.
1:34:55
Have you talked to D since this
tweet came out?
1:34:58
I did. I had a painful
discussion. sitting with him
1:35:00
yesterday and fall. I think he
realizes that he was wrong. He
1:35:05
thought he was taking a moderate
stance when it when it comes to
1:35:09
self identification for trans
people. There's no moderate
1:35:12
stance we need to believe our
trans kids when they tell us
1:35:16
about their gender.
1:35:17
Adam Curry: Oh, there it is. We
need to believe our trans kids
1:35:21
when they tell us about our
gender. Okay, let's hear from
1:35:24
one of the trans kids Katie
Lennon. And Katie Lennon tells
1:35:27
her story.
1:35:28
Unknown: It's like many children
and teens today I identified
1:35:30
myself as transgender for years.
And when I started to feel
1:35:33
confused and ashamed about my
developing body, I asked
1:35:36
everyone in my life to call me
by a new name, and use male
1:35:39
pronouns to refer to me. So in
other words, I went through a
1:35:42
social transition from female to
male, everyone in my life
1:35:46
immediately affirmed my new
identity either out of full
1:35:48
support for it or just to stay
neutral and not cause any
1:35:50
issues. But the constant
affirmation both active and
1:35:53
passive, solidified me and my
transgender identity, no one
1:35:57
meant to lock me into an
identity that would later leave
1:35:59
me broken or shamed and more
confused than before. They were
1:36:02
really all just being nice. But
the social transition eventually
1:36:06
wasn't enough. And I soon felt I
needed to take testosterone. And
1:36:09
when that wasn't enough, I had a
double mastectomy. And when that
1:36:12
still wasn't enough, I had a
total hysterectomy, including
1:36:14
the removal of my uterus,
cervix, fallopian tubes and both
1:36:18
ovaries. There's no point of
contentment during a gender
1:36:21
transition. We get fleeting
moments of euphoria, but
1:36:24
ultimately one step leads
straight into the next. And I
1:36:27
thought that in the end, I could
really become a man but all I
1:36:29
became was a mutilated and
abused version of my old self.
1:36:33
social transition is a big deal.
And we're lying when we say that
1:36:36
any of this is reversible. This
is a big decision with lifelong
1:36:39
consequences. And New Hampshire
doesn't even require that
1:36:41
parents be involved. If the
roles of mother and father don't
1:36:44
include authority over the
emotional, social and physical
1:36:47
future of their children, the
roles no longer mean anything.
1:36:51
Like me, transgender,
identifying youth have a high
1:36:53
risk for depression. The Trevor
Project, which is an LGBT
1:36:56
advocacy group, reports that 45%
of LGBT teens have seriously
1:37:01
considered attempting suicide in
the past year. More than half of
1:37:05
that number is transgender,
identifying youth, teachers and
1:37:08
school administrators are
mandated reporters, if a child
1:37:11
is suspected to be four times
more likely to attempt suicide
1:37:14
than the other students his age,
his parents have a right to
1:37:16
know.
1:37:17
Adam Curry: So this is all
coming from the schools. We've
1:37:19
discussed this. And there's a
slogan that I learned the other
1:37:22
day when the campus when the
world, that's what's going on
1:37:25
here. And even even Bill Maher
is now seeing this for what it
1:37:30
is what we identified correctly,
when we first went down this
1:37:34
road of what is happening with
transgender activism and removal
1:37:40
of parents rights, allowing
children to be literally
1:37:45
captured. I have just story
makers that captured by the
1:37:49
state captured by the law. I'll
read a little bit of this, one
1:37:52
of our producers. He's from
Colorado, I think you you
1:37:56
probably saw this note as well.
I've been below the radar for
1:37:58
past three plus years because
I've been living the COVID Trans
1:38:01
Maoist nightmare with my
daughter, I don't even know
1:38:04
where to start. And if I did, my
note will be too long for you to
1:38:07
even read and you guys know how
much I can write. And my efforts
1:38:10
to save my daughter and kids
like her. I've been exposed to
1:38:13
human trafficking, illegal drug
dealers, mental health
1:38:15
institutions, social services,
law enforcement, district
1:38:18
attorneys, politicians, all the
way to Governor's School
1:38:21
Administrators, mental health
and professionals and doctors
1:38:24
and psychiatrists, I can truly
say all these groups with the
1:38:27
exception of law enforcement are
in on the CO opting our kids
1:38:30
from their parents. Some are
useful idiots for the
1:38:33
politicians and bureaucrats
pushing their mouse agenda, but
1:38:36
it's the ones that are aware of
what they're doing that are
1:38:38
truly despicable. So I'm gonna
go to his quick list here. That
1:38:42
explains the process that
happened to his daughter who was
1:38:44
able to save but it's it's a
horrible story. I put it on the
1:38:48
show notes. I've taken out
everybody's names and these
1:38:50
notes. Here's here's the process
that he calls legalizing state
1:38:56
sponsored genital mutilation.
One higher radical teachers for
1:38:59
indoctrination, reduce age of
Colorado, reduce age of consent
1:39:04
for medical care, like abortions
to 15 without parental consent.
1:39:08
allow children to consent for
medical care at 12. Without
1:39:11
parent knowledge or consent
passed laws requiring state
1:39:15
employees including teachers to
use any bizarre pronoun, offer
1:39:19
medical and mental health care
in schools without parental
1:39:21
consent. Governor encourages
kids to inject mRNA poison in
1:39:25
their bodies without parental
consent, require mental health
1:39:29
assessment for kids 12 and
older, overriding parental
1:39:32
objections and not informing
parents of any care after birth
1:39:36
abortions for kids as young as
12 without parental consent also
1:39:40
come to Colorado and will abort
your baby genital mutilation and
1:39:43
puberty blockers for kids
without parental consent in
1:39:46
violation of a UN resolution.
exposing yourself to a minor is
1:39:49
now just a ticket not passed yet
is lowering the age of consent
1:39:53
for sexual contact to 11
including with adults yes Pete
1:39:57
of pedophilia that he goes on
and on And on on. And he he
1:40:02
saved his daughter, but it's a
harrowing, harrowing story. And
1:40:07
I'm just getting, again, email
after email from parents and no
1:40:11
agenda nation who have been
exposed to this and are trying
1:40:14
to protect their kids. So what
is it on one hand? Yes, it is
1:40:17
exactly what we've discussed.
The Bill Maher said, which is
1:40:21
Maoism.
1:40:22
Unknown: Yesterday, I asked chat
and GPT Are there any
1:40:25
similarities between today's
woke revolution and Chairman
1:40:28
Mao's cultural revolution of the
1960s? And it wrote back how
1:40:32
long do you have? Because,
again, in China, we saw how a
1:40:41
revolutionary thought he could
do a page one rewrite of humans
1:40:45
now ordered his citizens to
throw off the four olds, old
1:40:51
thinking old culture, old
customs and old habits. So your
1:40:56
whole life went in the garbage
overnight, no biggie. And those
1:41:00
who resisted, were attacked by
an army of purifiers called the
1:41:05
Red Guard who went around the
country putting dunce caps on
1:41:09
people. Yeah, who didn't take to
being a new kind of mortal
1:41:13
being. A lot of pointing and
shaming went on. Oh, and about a
1:41:17
million dead. And the only way
to survive was to plead insanity
1:41:22
for the crime of being
insufficiently radical then
1:41:25
apologize and thank the state
and of course submit to re
1:41:28
education or as we call it here
in America freshman orientation.
1:41:36
Adam Curry: So even Bill Maher
sees what's going on? And yes,
1:41:39
it is. It is to a great degree
political as our parent their
1:41:44
points out that the politicians
anything, anything to make the
1:41:49
Republicans look the worst.
Anything call them Christian.
1:41:56
Was it. Christian radicals? No,
not radicals? No, it was not
1:42:04
fascist, Christian fascist. No
anti trans legislation. They
1:42:09
hate children, because this is
gender affirming care. Well, you
1:42:12
just heard from that young girl
what gender affirming care is,
1:42:15
but now we go to Dr. Meg Meeker
's podcast just to you one clip
1:42:20
from from her. And she is
talking to Irene Erickson. And
1:42:25
this is, as she asked a
question, which I think is a
1:42:28
pretty good one. Why is this
really happening in America? As
1:42:33
we know, this is being stopped
in other countries,
1:42:36
specifically, the countries
where it started, which was the
1:42:39
Netherlands but Sweden, France,
the UK? So what is going on? Why
1:42:44
is this happening to this degree
in the United States,
1:42:47
Unknown: honestly, and truly,
I've been practicing for 30 some
1:42:49
years. And I think maybe in 25
years, I saw one genuine
1:42:57
transgender child, but something
happened in the US and there was
1:43:02
an explosion, and we'll talk
about that a little bit later.
1:43:06
Why does the US approach it
differently than other
1:43:09
countries?
1:43:11
That's a great question. It's a
great question.
1:43:14
Adam Curry: And in fact, may
actually be the only great
1:43:16
question that
1:43:18
Unknown: is political is my
observation. It's not based on
1:43:22
the on the science, in fact that
you know that the United Kingdom
1:43:26
had the largest pediatric gender
clinic in the world, the
1:43:30
Tavistock clinic, and they
commissioned an independent
1:43:35
review of the research evidence
about this kind of protocol that
1:43:39
I just described, and what were
the effects? And what was the
1:43:44
evidence, how good was the
research evidence in terms of
1:43:48
quality, and based on their
review, just in the last two
1:43:51
months, they have done a 180
degree, turn around, they've
1:43:57
closed that clinic, and they
have said, we do not recommend
1:44:01
this is the National Health
Service in Great Britain, we do
1:44:04
not recommend social transition
for children and we are not
1:44:08
going to prescribe puberty
blockers or cross sex hormones,
1:44:13
or surgery for minors, unless
they are part of a study we have
1:44:18
approved that is set up to
evaluate the effects. And this
1:44:23
same kind of a cautionary
approach is seen in Sweden. Just
1:44:28
to quote you what the Swedish
National Board of Health says,
1:44:33
For adolescents the risks of
puberty suppressing treatment
1:44:37
and gender affirming hormonal
treatments are currently
1:44:40
outweigh the possible benefits
based on continued lack of
1:44:44
reliable scientific evidence
concerning the efficacy and the
1:44:48
safety of both treatments. So
the US is really out of step now
1:44:53
with what's happening
internationally. And, you know,
1:44:59
it does beg the question of why.
1:45:01
Adam Curry: So she says it's
political. And of course it is.
1:45:04
But it's the schools where this
is all starting. And I took a
1:45:08
deep dive because I want to know
about the studies because
1:45:10
everywhere I read from the New
York Times, via gender affirming
1:45:15
medical care has been proven,
proven to be very beneficial. So
1:45:21
I found an article from
Psychology Today because it is
1:45:26
the therapist, it's the
therapists who are reeling these
1:45:29
children in, if they don't care
therapist, and this is it. This
1:45:34
is from the New York Times
pointed to from the New York
1:45:37
Times as the evidence for trans
youth gender affirming medical
1:45:41
care. Research suggests gender
affirming medical care results
1:45:47
in better mental health 16
studies to date have been
1:45:50
examined the examining the
impact of gender affirming
1:45:54
medical care for transgender
youth, existing evidence
1:45:58
suggests that gender affirming
medical care results in
1:46:02
favorable mental health
outcomes. All all major medical
1:46:07
organizations oppose legislation
that would ban gender affirming
1:46:12
medical care for chant
transgender adolescence. John,
1:46:18
every single one of these
studies, is from 2020. Every
1:46:23
single one, and all of them with
55 people, 60 people, they're
1:46:30
all from 2020, all during the
lockdown, not a single one. Has
1:46:36
any has been studied anything
earlier than 2020. This and with
1:46:41
this, they say Oh, well, but you
know, that's enough. One will
1:46:47
notice this article says there
have not been any randomized
1:46:50
controlled trials. Oh, but it
still sounds like it's a valid
1:46:55
trial. There's a general
consensus in the field that such
1:46:59
a trial would be unethical given
the body of literature we have
1:47:03
so far indicating that those in
the control group will be likely
1:47:07
to suffer adverse mental health
outcomes compared to those
1:47:11
randomized to the treatment
groups. For this reason, it
1:47:15
appears that no institutional
review board would approve a
1:47:18
randomized controlled trial at
this time, under the principle
1:47:21
of equipoise equipoise to which
some bioethicists refer. I don't
1:47:27
know what that all means, but it
seems to me like these trials
1:47:30
are bull. In summary, I'd
1:47:34
John C Dvorak: have to look at
the trials and who paid for him
1:47:38
to get a real handle on it, I
believe.
1:47:43
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes, I did not
I did not go that deep. But if
1:47:48
you look at the the synopsis
here a lot of them are Dutch
1:47:56
puberty suppression and
adolescents with gender identity
1:47:58
disorder as prospect follow up
study, Journal of Sexual
1:48:01
Medicine, okay, by on what that
is. Young adults, psychological
1:48:07
outcome after puberty,
suppression and gender
1:48:09
reassignment, pediatrics, psycho
psychological support, puberty
1:48:15
suppression, and psycho psycho
social functioning in
1:48:18
adolescence. It's all Journal of
Sexual Medicine. So,
1:48:23
John C Dvorak: you know, but all
in is the exact same journal.
1:48:25
There's no outside journals.
1:48:27
Adam Curry: There. Here's the
Nordic Journal of Psychiatry,
1:48:30
it's all psychological. They're
not. That doesn't seem to even
1:48:33
be medical trials. It's all
about the psychology. But that's
1:48:40
what the New York Times points
to is proof that this stuff
1:48:42
works. And it's great. So I'm
very, very skeptical,
1:48:47
particularly because if not,
we've there had been people
1:48:50
transitioning having what used
to be called a sex change
1:48:53
operation for decades. But no,
none of that seems to be very
1:49:00
important. And then we have the
media. We have the media, and I
1:49:05
played I got a great
deconstruction from one of our
1:49:08
producers. I want to play this
Kara Swisher clip again. Because
1:49:12
you know, she's a lesbian. So
you know, she's she's an expert
1:49:15
on all things. And of course,
she takes us all to the
1:49:18
political realm as well, just to
play replay this from the last
1:49:21
show. And the other thing
1:49:22
Unknown: is, did he just I think
underestimated. Florida has a
1:49:25
really robust and wonderful gay
community. And they drive a lot
1:49:30
of business. There's, I mean,
there's whole parts. I've spent
1:49:34
a lot of time in Key West and
the gay community is thriving
1:49:37
there and I just can't at some
point the demo and democracy
1:49:40
does kick in here.
1:49:42
One would assume but I'm
thinking of the why Mar Republic
1:49:45
where it was a huge Berlin gay
community and then they killed
1:49:47
them. So you know, I think it
could go a lot of terrible ways,
1:49:51
but I would agree this is dumb.
This is so
1:49:53
escalated fast.
1:49:57
Haven't you seen cabaret?
Haven't you'd seen it? Every
1:50:00
Berlin stories.
1:50:01
Yeah, you're right. People think
it couldn't happen here. I can I
1:50:05
agree.
1:50:06
They can come at you. But I do
not think that that's where the
1:50:11
country is in a different way
from much. We've have obviously
1:50:14
a much more vibrant democracy, a
much more diverse democracy than
1:50:17
they hadn't Weimar Republic, and
they had all kinds of economic
1:50:20
issues, postwar, fall kinds of
differences, but they can come
1:50:23
at you. When I when I told you
they were going to come at 12th
1:50:26
graders, you'd said no, they're
not as young kids. And I was
1:50:29
like, no, they're not. It's
everybody they're trying to do
1:50:32
trying to win what they lost
back. And they will do they will
1:50:36
stop at nothing. They never go
away. They're like mold these
1:50:39
people.
1:50:39
Adam Curry: So our producer
sends me this short note which I
1:50:41
wanted to share because I think
he did a much better job than we
1:50:45
did on deconstructing what this
woman said. I'm listening to the
1:50:48
podcast just heard the Swisher
Galloway clip and the psychology
1:50:51
of it disturbed me. First of
all, she mentioned the gay
1:50:54
community in Weimar, Germany was
thriving, and then they killed
1:50:57
them. This is incorrect. The
Republic had laws against
1:51:01
homosexuality, but they were
rarely enforced, hence the
1:51:04
thriving community. It was the
Nazis who killed the gays
1:51:08
shortly after their rise to
power, not the why Mr. Republic.
1:51:11
So the comparison to Florida is
actually very apt. Since the
1:51:15
thriving community there is not
in danger from Florida, but from
1:51:18
the people trying to subvert
Florida. Moreover, she then went
1:51:22
on to describe her political
opponents by saying they never
1:51:25
go away. They're like mold of
these people. That is exactly
1:51:29
the way Hitler talked about his
victims. In his books and his
1:51:33
speeches, he always referred to
them as an infection or
1:51:36
infestation that needed to be
cleansed. This woman is deeply
1:51:39
disturbed and should be
surrounded by trained
1:51:41
professionals with butterfly
nets before her career in art
1:51:44
fails.
1:51:48
A Jhansi Dvorak protege I'm
right had
1:51:52
John C Dvorak: blaming me for
everything. So yes, yeah, good
1:51:58
points is it's a that's a good
analysis. I agree with it.
1:52:05
Adam Curry: Then I have just a
few more follow ups here.
1:52:08
Because, you know, as we pointed
out, this also really does come
1:52:12
from during the lockdown when
kids were on screens, screen
1:52:19
screen screens. And this is
where they got subverted. They
1:52:22
got subverted by social media.
And they were they were booked.
1:52:27
Do you think the parents were
not feeling good in the
1:52:29
lockdown? No, everyone felt very
anxious. And then then they
1:52:35
didn't feel good. And teenage
girls already have problems with
1:52:38
feeling good about themselves.
And they were subverted by it.
1:52:41
Unknown: Yes, I
1:52:41
John C Dvorak: want to ask you a
bit while you're out just before
1:52:44
you do this. Because it comes to
mind. A rhetorical question. The
1:52:52
commentary about the kids on
screens during the lockdown and
1:52:56
not going to school, not going
to school, not going to class,
1:52:59
not socializing. But they're
being on the screen all the
1:53:01
time. They're on at home
homeschooling, they were getting
1:53:04
their lessons. They were getting
the teachers were there. They
1:53:08
were telling him to do this and
read this and do that and do
1:53:11
this and that. And it turns out
that all you hear now is Oh,
1:53:16
because of that the kids are two
years behind. So in other words,
1:53:23
this screen time and all the
learning from home and all the
1:53:26
rest of it was useless. Then if
that's true, which is seems to
1:53:33
be that's what they're
complaining about, then why is
1:53:36
working from home so good, boo.
It's not. It can't be not if you
1:53:43
base it on what happened during
that lockdown.
1:53:46
Adam Curry: We had. This was
last summer, one of the one of
1:53:51
the daughters was visiting and
she had some of her friends from
1:53:54
New York. They also were in
Austin for some reason. And
1:53:58
these, I think, like three guys,
probably two of them two or
1:54:01
three, or maybe all three gay, I
don't know. But they were like,
1:54:03
you know, lawyers. Like high end
like intellectual jobs, and they
1:54:10
came out and they're hanging out
in the pool. And they literally
1:54:13
would set their laptops up
because they were working from
1:54:16
home. They set up their laptops,
and they had all these little
1:54:19
programs that move the mouse to
make it look like they were
1:54:21
working. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Isn't
that cool? Oh, yeah, it's very
1:54:27
fun, from time to time to go and
just even you know, do a little
1:54:30
something open a document just
to make sure that look like
1:54:33
because you know, it's all
tracked by it. And we got a note
1:54:35
from Alex Jennison. Want to
follow up a couple items at the
1:54:38
school I work at in New York,
New York State is ot jeep. Off
1:54:43
the Grid. Families of students
must pledge to limit smart
1:54:47
devices, time time spent on
them, etc. Many of our students
1:54:51
even high school, this is
northern Academy. Many of our
1:54:54
students even high schoolers
have zero access to social
1:54:57
media. We are even punishing to
limit laptops. pushing to limit
1:55:00
locked laptops in the classroom
and return to books and paper.
1:55:04
Check us out at North
academy.org. In my five years
1:55:07
here we've had in total, one
suicide less than five students
1:55:12
medicated for add ADHD,
depression, etc. Zero students
1:55:17
on IEP plans. I don't know what
that what is IEP. All students
1:55:23
learn together, look it up, it's
probably for special ed, I look
1:55:26
it up, I look at it IEP plans,
all students learn together. And
1:55:29
we do not discriminate based on
diagnosis or perceived
1:55:32
differences. Zero trans in
students, zero trans students.
1:55:38
John C Dvorak: If there's not
even come up in class ever. As
1:55:40
far as I know, we've had one
student who identified as
1:55:42
homosexual, again accepted but
not promoted. The individualized
1:55:46
education plan. There you go.
Being doctrine developed to
1:55:49
ensure a child who has a
disability identified under the
1:55:52
law and is attending an
Elementary Secondary of kids for
1:55:55
this for the disabled kids.
1:55:56
Adam Curry: We are a boarding
and day school, send your kids
1:55:59
but really any parents who are
interested can reach out to me
1:56:02
on Mastodon and it's breakfasty
at no agenda social.com br A br
1:56:07
a HPHECY. Let's help save the
850,000 listeners in their
1:56:13
children. I wholeheartedly
believe our schools here in New
1:56:16
York can help change some of
these trends. So just so you
1:56:18
know, that by the way, it's
probably an Epoch Times NTD
1:56:22
related outfit, because they
know how bad it can be. This is
1:56:27
so they have almost none of the
issues that we hear of that are
1:56:31
rampant without the screens.
This is without the screens. So
1:56:36
we have another email from
Mason, I heard the show want to
1:56:38
share my experience around
children's screens and phones.
1:56:41
My wife and I have a 20 month
old son who has kept almost
1:56:44
entirely screen free no children
shows no YouTube, no phones, no
1:56:48
iPads. Only screen use would be
when we have a sports game on
1:56:51
but he isn't interested in that
20 month old, we've noticed that
1:56:54
he's less interested in our
phones and other toddlers we've
1:56:57
seen perhaps because he doesn't
know all the fun things a phone
1:57:00
can have. Having said that he is
still interested in our phones,
1:57:04
because we're interested because
we're interested in our phones,
1:57:07
he is clearly picking up on it.
Quick note on low screen kids,
1:57:10
almost everyone who meets our
son comments on his ability to
1:57:13
play creatively with simple toys
by himself and his engagement
1:57:17
with us and other adults. It's
hard not to use screens as a
1:57:20
crutch with kids and it takes
purpose. But there are very real
1:57:23
benefits start showing up almost
immediately. And you're come
1:57:27
several weeks ago after seeing
him more and more interested in
1:57:30
my phone, I switched to a light
phone to the light phone.com and
1:57:34
put my iPhone in a drawer. I did
this both to unhook myself from
1:57:38
my device as well as to help my
son have a normal life abnormal
1:57:42
by today's standards. The
results have been immediate for
1:57:45
both of us, I'm less interested
in my phone, and he's not
1:57:48
interested at all, the phone has
a black and white E Ink screen
1:57:52
very limited functionality. So
there's no draw for me or for
1:57:55
the child, I was anxious to
switch at first. But after
1:57:58
getting it up and running, I
felt immediately freed from it
1:58:01
all I share this because the
light phone might be a good tool
1:58:04
for others and get donation both
in curbing their own addictions
1:58:07
to these apps and for allowing
older kids to have the ability
1:58:10
to communicate without giving
them access to anything online.
1:58:15
So I ordered one, I ordered a
low light phone and when it
1:58:18
comes in, I'll do a full review.
But I think we've talked about
1:58:21
it before and the OTG days. And
I'm thinking if you want to save
1:58:25
your child here, here, here's a
list of things that I would like
1:58:29
to suggest you give to your
kids. I like phone too, because
1:58:32
you can call you can text and
it's not you know, punching in
1:58:36
the number five times it has a
little actual keyboard. And
1:58:40
there's no no camera. It does
have directions, you can listen
1:58:43
to podcasts, and you can use it
as a hotspot. And with that give
1:58:48
your kid a laptop. Teach your
kid how to put Linux Mint on it
1:58:52
to the kid has an understanding
that you control the device does
1:58:55
not control you. Give your kid a
high quality standalone camera.
1:58:59
John, would you like to give
any? Any suggestions because you
1:59:03
you always use these cameras?
1:59:05
John C Dvorak: Well any camera
from Olympus I'd say would be a
1:59:08
good standalone camera little
ones. Or if you want to just you
1:59:12
know bite the bullet and buy a
Nikon one of the ones using an
1:59:16
AP SC one of the bigger sensors
but a Four Thirds sensor is also
1:59:22
good or full frame but those
costs too much. So forget that
1:59:26
just
1:59:26
Adam Curry: a little thing you
put in your pocket and you have
1:59:27
the
1:59:30
John C Dvorak: million of these
and then
1:59:31
Adam Curry: you take it home
then you blowed it onto your
1:59:34
laptop with Linux Mint and you
can choose stuff and then
1:59:37
John C Dvorak: apparently it
takes a better picture generally
1:59:40
speaking than a phone can Yeah,
but it's generally
1:59:42
Adam Curry: you can take
pictures but you're not doing
1:59:44
selfies, not doing selfies and
you can't get on social media.
1:59:50
Then parents I would recommend
you look at an unroll or start
1:59:54
nine home server um so you can
give your kid you know, some
1:59:57
some stuff that you know they're
gonna have their own little chat
1:59:59
room in there. friends that you
can monitor. And if you don't
2:00:02
know what that is go to get
umbral.com It's all free, then
2:00:07
you should also give your kid a
handheld, two meter ham radio.
2:00:11
And both of you take the test,
take the test. I mean those,
2:00:15
take the test, take the test,
and you should encourage their
2:00:19
friends to do this so they can
talk to each other over
2:00:22
distances. Because $35 for these
little things, give them a
2:00:26
library card. Get them a dog and
an AR 15 and teach them how to
2:00:31
use it
2:00:32
John C Dvorak: in probably a
pocket protector.
2:00:35
Unknown: Yeah, okay, it's fine.
You're gonna
2:00:37
John C Dvorak: be a ham. You
might as well have one
2:00:39
Adam Curry: I would rather my
kid be a nerd than then then any
2:00:42
any alternative, any
alternative. And then finally,
2:00:46
know that you have power to stop
this insanity. And it is
2:00:50
happening. And it's
unbelievable. I didn't think it
2:00:53
would. I didn't think it would
happen. But the Bud Light
2:00:56
boycott is making a difference.
The numbers are in sales are
2:01:02
down 26% There's a poll done.
I'm not big on polls. This is a
2:01:08
Rasmussen poll, which is also of
course, like a bright wing right
2:01:11
leaning outfit. But the numbers
are clear. That Budweiser and
2:01:18
Bud Light is suffering
significantly. They cannot bring
2:01:22
themselves to apologize. I mean,
I went out was talking to my
2:01:27
John C Dvorak: buddy stop. This
is this is an interesting point.
2:01:32
They can't bring themselves to
apologize. They're afraid
2:01:37
they're going to offend someone
by apologizing. Yep. We didn't
2:01:41
do anything wrong. Well, that's
2:01:43
Adam Curry: that's that's the
worst
2:01:44
Unknown: part.
2:01:47
Adam Curry: They're, you know,
they're they're saying well, you
2:01:49
know, it was just one single can
that remember we've talked about
2:01:52
this it's the it's the
distributors the local
2:01:55
distributors own the business.
And these people are mad.
2:01:59
Because they the bars are saying
no, no, I'm not on one Bud
2:02:03
Light. We're boycotting them.
Tommy, who helped me we lost a
2:02:07
tree during that big storm. He's
he comes over with his with his
2:02:12
chainsaw and he's gonna go out
and talk with Tom. He's from
2:02:14
Waco. Originally. The N and they
Oh, no, I'm not. I'm not
2:02:18
drinking Bud Light. says you
know what else I'm not doing?
2:02:20
I'm not I'm not buying Nike
shoes anymore. And Tommy is 63
2:02:25
Amy has his helper Ryan he's 28
and Ryan's out nope, nope, nope.
2:02:30
Nope. Not doing it.
2:02:31
John C Dvorak: Were they Bud
Light drinkers before
2:02:33
Adam Curry: they were but what
they were they would drink
2:02:35
Budweiser I don't know if they
drank Bud Light but they're
2:02:37
boycotting all Budweiser
products and all I know is
2:02:40
Anheuser Busch products in
general and they know it they
2:02:43
know exactly what beers are
under the InBev brand and the
2:02:47
nope know what screw those guys
and they're taking and they're
2:02:51
taking a stand and it's working
is working and this and what's
2:02:56
happening is now the marketing
community they are freaking out
2:03:01
because influencers that was the
business oh yeah influencers wow
2:03:08
they're all over Tik Tok.
They're all over Instagram
2:03:11
they're Oh, he has his how we
get our word out but all and
2:03:13
that's why they gave this stupid
Dylan Mulvaney Yeah, his own can
2:03:18
he could tout that
2:03:21
Unknown: you blow your nose.
2:03:24
Adam Curry: And, and now all of
these marketing departments can
2:03:28
be like holy crap, because you
know the VP of Marketing at bud
2:03:30
got fired. She's on leave now
she got fired, then it was not
2:03:35
it was not even the Denon
Mulvaney thing so much. It was
2:03:38
the well, it's a tired old
arrogance. ratty brand. Yeah,
2:03:41
the
2:03:42
John C Dvorak: arrogance, the
arrogance of it, then marketing
2:03:45
arrogance is the worst, the
2:03:46
Adam Curry: incredible arrogance
of it all. And so keep it up
2:03:51
boycott. This is this is the
American power. And I don't know
2:03:55
if Anheuser Busch can recover.
Because this is this is
2:03:59
sticking. This is sticking and
Coors and other brands that are
2:04:03
non InBev are mysteriously going
up. It's really going up now. So
2:04:09
with all this, of course, you
know, what do you do about all
2:04:12
what I mean? It's social media
is the problem. screen phones
2:04:16
are the problem. There's there's
an article Gen Z years are
2:04:19
snapping up flip phones, Wall
Street Journal. You know, I
2:04:23
don't know, you know, we've seen
these trends before, but some of
2:04:27
the kids are like, I'm sick of
this stuff. So, you know, it
2:04:32
also is too expensive. The dumb
phones, the light phone 299
2:04:36
Seems like a good deal. I'll do
a review of that. But you know,
2:04:41
what I think ultimately, parents
need to take responsibility,
2:04:44
just as this email said, they're
the ones who are hooked on their
2:04:48
phones. You've got to get off
your phone, you've got to get a
2:04:50
light phone. You've got to
change your ways because your
2:04:52
kids are seeing it. And you need
to be aware of what they're
2:04:57
doing. Be aware of the social
media network. So that's why
2:05:00
don't give them a phone for it.
Let them do it at home on the
2:05:03
laptops, you can look along. You
look over their shoulder. Kids
2:05:07
are always gonna do weird stuff
they don't know about but you
2:05:09
have to be more involved. You
can't just say, No, I don't
2:05:12
understand what you're doing
scrolling on about tick tock,
2:05:15
you morons. And of course, I
read our legislators. They have
2:05:21
all these dumb ideas, which will
now be arguing about forever
2:05:26
Unknown: a showdown over social
media for kids. As the US
2:05:29
Federal Trade Commission accuses
Mehta parent company of Facebook
2:05:33
and Instagram of misusing the
personal data of its youngest
2:05:36
users.
2:05:38
Facebook has repeatedly violated
its privacy promises, the
2:05:41
company's recklessness has put
young users at risk, and
2:05:45
Facebook needs to answer for its
failures.
2:05:48
In 2019, Facebook agreed to pay
a $5 billion civil penalty over
2:05:53
data privacy practices in the
wake of the Cambridge analytical
2:05:56
scandal. The FTC though says the
company has not lived up to its
2:05:59
commitments in that settlement,
alleging that children under 13
2:06:03
are still able to chat with
parentally unapproved contacts,
2:06:06
and that the company is still
passing private data to unused
2:06:10
third party apps. It's proposed
sanctions include a total ban on
2:06:14
meta monetizing the data of
under eight teams a pause on the
2:06:18
launch of new products pending
compliance review and limits on
2:06:21
the use of facial recognition
technology. Meanwhile, a
2:06:25
bipartisan group of US Senators
is calling for a total ban on
2:06:29
social media for kids 12 And
under
2:06:31
the technology industry is going
to find all sorts of innovative
2:06:34
ways to try to squash this bill
because you know, this is their
2:06:38
this is their profit center our
kids and promoting really
2:06:43
dangerous content often to our
kids,
2:06:46
medicines. The FTC is latest
move is a political stunt
2:06:49
accusing the regulator of
overstepping its authority the
2:06:52
company has 30 days to formally
respond
2:06:56
Adam Curry: and the reason why
none of this works now this will
2:06:58
happen and why why social
networks and social media is
2:07:01
always going to be around is
because the lib Jo's love it.
2:07:05
The liberal journalists love all
journalist probably but the lib
2:07:09
Jo's of the worst though we live
and we're not Ill screw Ilan,
2:07:13
we're going to mess it down. And
then there were a mastodon like,
2:07:17
well, we don't we kneel. It's
not exactly the way we like it.
2:07:21
And we can't find people and we
can't count all of our our views
2:07:25
and our likes. And here we go to
the rescue. Jack Dorsey releases
2:07:29
blue sky Have you been following
blue sky?
2:07:32
John C Dvorak: I've only heard
about it. So by God, a blue sky
2:07:36
Adam Curry: invites. Thank you
very much one of our producers
2:07:38
gave that to me. And I'll just
give you the technical
2:07:42
background because this is not
discussed blue sky, the idea of
2:07:44
blue skies it kind of works like
Mastodon, where you have your
2:07:49
identity or like nostril as
well. You have your identity and
2:07:53
that is yours. And you can use
this day to check into different
2:07:56
neighborhoods or different
servers, but you can be
2:07:59
federated across the entire
platform. So not a single
2:08:04
reporters reporting on what it
actually is. But what they did
2:08:07
is all Oh, this is great. This
is like Twitter without Elon has
2:08:12
got an invite. Invite. Invite
the 11 Invite. Oh, Jake Tapper
2:08:16
is on there. Oh, yeah. AOC is on
that. Oh, yes. This is great.
2:08:20
Oh, it's an outlet everybody
show her boobs. Okay, everybody
2:08:23
show your butt. Okay, the trans
movement is here. And all the
2:08:28
lib Jo's love it you know why?
Because you can quote tweet.
2:08:34
There all the whole platform is
one lib Joe.
2:08:40
Unknown: smorgasbord. And so
they're they're
2:08:45
Adam Curry: abandoning Mastodon
as quick as they can. Trying to
2:08:50
build they're creating their own
language. Yes, they're not
2:08:53
tweets. They're Skeets but
they're not tweets. They're
2:08:58
Skeets you know, blue sky ski.
2:09:00
John C Dvorak: They're actually
Daxing calling him skeet. Yes,
2:09:03
yes, I
2:09:04
Unknown: know. I know.
2:09:05
John C Dvorak: Holy moly.
2:09:08
Adam Curry: So I can just I can
I have to I have to give you one
2:09:12
of my code. You must you have to
witness it. This is better than
2:09:16
the secret Mastodon server we
have. It is they are so insane.
2:09:24
And so they're all going to
flock to this. This is the new
2:09:27
Oh, this is the new thing. It's
much better than the land
2:09:30
Twitter. Jake Tapper. Skeets the
AI has such a weird take on my
2:09:36
face. I mean, everyone is just
gushing over how great this is.
2:09:48
And this is the new Twitter. So
they're gonna
2:09:50
John C Dvorak: say we'll look
into it
2:09:52
Adam Curry: now and I'll give
you a give you my give me a
2:09:54
bytecode I only have one more.
I'll give you my input and
2:09:56
that's in your it's a big hole.
How many invite code up Well you
2:10:00
need moderation oh yeah now
there's they're talking about
2:10:02
how they need to moderate so
keep keep children away from
2:10:08
from journalists, I would say
there's another good keep them
2:10:12
away from journalists keep them
away from news in general. You
2:10:15
know what listen to the no
agenda show and that'll be good
2:10:17
for him. And you know what? You
know what you should teach your
2:10:19
children value for value.
2:10:23
John C Dvorak: Yeah, have them
donate.
2:10:28
Adam Curry: With I'd like to
thank you for your courage to
2:10:30
say in the morning to you the
man who put the sea in chat GPT
2:10:33
ladies and gentlemen say hello
to my friend on the other end,
2:10:35
Mr. John
2:10:40
John C Dvorak: Mr. Adam curry
also in the morning, little
2:10:42
ships at sea boots on the
ground, feet near subs in the
2:10:45
water all the names. Let's
measure them right away
2:10:47
Adam Curry: before they run
away. We're late today, we only
2:10:54
have one segment. For reasons
which will be obvious, although
2:10:57
we have some longer notes 1914
today. I know that doesn't seem
2:11:02
like a lot. People are
abandoning us John
2:11:05
John C Dvorak: gets about 100
higher than usual.
2:11:07
Adam Curry: Oh, really?
2:11:11
John C Dvorak: But yeah, this is
not Sunday.
2:11:13
Adam Curry: Oh, it's Thursday.
Yeah, of course. I say well,
2:11:14
well, those are the trolls are
in the troll room. And you
2:11:17
couldn't find them a troll
room.io. Or if you have one of
2:11:20
those brand new podcast apps,
you dump on the legacy stuff,
2:11:24
the ones where you know that
your favorite podcast just might
2:11:26
go away because someone decided
they didn't like it. And they
2:11:29
removed it from Spotify or Apple
2:11:32
John C Dvorak: even you know,
even the guys on Spotify are all
2:11:35
saying that everybody says this
app does wherever you get your
2:11:39
podcast from. Which was not to
interrupt a segment. But I do
2:11:46
have a What's wrong with
podcasting bit?
2:11:49
Unknown: Oh, well, let's look
well,
2:11:50
Adam Curry: hold on. Let me
finish this and I'm gonna play
2:11:52
the clip because that's what the
donation segment is for. It's
2:11:55
for interviews with guests. And
for for clips.
2:12:00
John C Dvorak: Clips, like this
one. Okay, so finish what you
2:12:03
were doing.
2:12:05
Unknown: Yes, era? Yes,
2:12:09
Adam Curry: yes. Yeah, you throw
me off my game. When you do that
2:12:11
stuff. Go to podcast apps.com.
Grab yourself a modern podcast
2:12:16
app. Now there are a couple that
have this troll room feature in
2:12:19
it. It's pod verse, curio
caster, podcast addict, podcast
2:12:23
guru with more coming. And
you'll be alerted just like, you
2:12:28
know, just like a bad signal and
you can pop right in all your
2:12:30
podcasts will be there,
including the no agenda Show
2:12:33
podcast, but also the live
podcast and more and more
2:12:35
podcasts are doing this. This is
the cool thing. You want to be a
2:12:38
part of that for sure. Now, you
can also follow us at no agenda
2:12:42
social.com I kicked that guy off
iron Iron Hide whatever his name
2:12:50
was. Yeah, guy. Yeah. And now he
keeps trying to come in. Evans.
2:12:56
He's pleased to be he's like
he's posting all kinds of
2:12:59
horrible things about us.
2:13:02
Unknown: Like what? Like we're
2:13:03
Adam Curry: well we're
homophobic. You know, we were
2:13:07
boring. We're old. We're stupid.
You know that kind of stuff.
2:13:13
John C Dvorak: Oh gosh, I'm I
don't know what to do.
2:13:17
Adam Curry: Well, but he insults
people all the time. And the
2:13:21
thing that he overt he look, I
don't like kicking people off.
2:13:24
Normally just ignore them or
block them but I tried to calm
2:13:27
him down in a private
conversation. Then he started
2:13:29
posting all
2:13:30
John C Dvorak: right, you get
rid of him. He's no Giza. No
2:13:32
good, Nick.
2:13:33
Adam Curry: Exactly. No good,
Nick. Exactly. By the way, big
2:13:37
shout out to nick the rat. He
had what we call a great get
2:13:41
yesterday. A great get, which is
a great guest. Did you hear the
2:13:45
guest he had? Yeah, my wife.
Yes. Mimi Dvorak. Did you get
2:13:50
your book? Not only do we get
the book, we love our book, too
2:13:54
many eggs too many eggs.com. And
we will be discussing it. I'm
2:13:57
carrying the keeper. Because
there's no good there's been an
2:14:00
egg controversy in the family
for a long time. And we and we
2:14:03
have as it solves by the book.
Yes, it is all by the book. I
2:14:06
don't know if I'm happy with it.
But yeah, it's off the books.
2:14:09
John C Dvorak: So what didn't go
your way? to controvert
2:14:13
controversial.
2:14:15
Adam Curry: It's big. It's a big
ass book. What does that thing
2:14:17
cost? If you buy the book? I
know you can download the PDF
2:14:19
for free
2:14:20
John C Dvorak: because $48 I
think is that's a that's a good
2:14:24
value. Yeah, it's actually we're
under pricing. It's kind of like
2:14:27
we're also giving away a free
PDF. Yeah. And so I mean, we're
2:14:31
in it to to lose money. So
people should take advantage
2:14:34
sounds like a podcast. I like
your eggs.com and get a free PDF
2:14:39
copy of
2:14:39
Adam Curry: quality of this
book. And the hardcover is like
2:14:42
a Tashan book.
2:14:43
John C Dvorak: You know what I
mean? Like more than you don't
2:14:45
want to touch him book is No, I
don't know what No, no dough is
2:14:48
a term.
2:14:48
Adam Curry: Tasha is a publisher
and they do these beautiful
2:14:50
coffee table books big size with
a hardcover. I know it's a it's
2:14:57
not like it doesn't look like a
self published book. See crap is
2:15:00
nice. And then it looks it looks
beautiful rose. Yeah, it looks
2:15:05
beautiful.
2:15:06
John C Dvorak: We know how to do
this this work.
2:15:07
Adam Curry: Look, if you want to
interrupt me, I'm trying to hype
2:15:10
the book up. No,
2:15:10
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. Keep
going. What am I doing? I'm an
2:15:13
idiot.
2:15:14
Adam Curry: And I also would
like everyone to, to pray for
2:15:18
our clip custodian son, Seamus,
who had to go in for emergency
2:15:22
chemo. It's really shitty. So we
want prayers for for Seamus,
2:15:28
please.
2:15:28
Unknown: Thank you all very
much. Good note. Yes.
2:15:31
John C Dvorak: All right. Oh, he
too many A's dot com. Just check
2:15:35
it out and get a free copy.
2:15:36
Adam Curry: Great book. It's a
great book. Well, there you go.
2:15:38
There's our business model.
Yeah, we just need to make
2:15:39
products.
2:15:41
John C Dvorak: This product is
high quality. Things take care
2:15:44
of themselves. Yes, exactly. And
listening to one of the podcasts
2:15:48
that are just, which is loaded
is one of the spin off podcasts
2:15:52
and it's loaded with with ads
for other podcasts. Oh, what
2:15:59
podcast is this? And so this is
an ad for Alec Baldwin's
2:16:04
podcast. And I want you to
listen to you think this. This
2:16:08
is a guy that's not geared to be
a podcaster he can barely read
2:16:12
the simple copy. It just doesn't
make any sense. You know, he's
2:16:16
they've tried to put him on TV
to be an interviewer and he
2:16:20
thinks he's a really good
interviewer. But but just listen
2:16:23
to this.
2:16:24
Unknown: Hey, it's Alec Baldwin,
this past season on my podcast.
2:16:28
Here's the thing. I spoke with
more actors, musicians,
2:16:33
policymakers, and so many other
fascinating people, like actress
2:16:37
and director, Cheryl Hines. They
were looking for an unknown
2:16:41
actress to play Larry, David's
wife. I said, Well, how old is
2:16:46
that guy? Isn't he? Listen to
the new season of here's the
2:16:54
thing on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple podcasts or wherever you
2:16:59
get your podcasts.
2:17:03
John C Dvorak: This guy's a
professional entertainer.
2:17:06
Adam Curry: Yeah, he's he's an
NPR like, guy. That's what he
2:17:10
thinks a podcast should be. No.
I mean, he's like, I have to
2:17:13
talk like this. I'm Alex
Baldwin.
2:17:16
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you
probably right. Not probably. I
2:17:19
just thought that was the worst
promotion for a podcast ever.
2:17:23
Adam Curry: Definitely not
great. I wouldn't want to be
2:17:25
promoted. Did you hear that? He
got off.
2:17:28
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he got off
in the officer. They defend him.
2:17:31
Not liable. Yes.
2:17:33
Adam Curry: Thank you. Hey, oh.
So we got the follow Adam and
2:17:38
origin social.com Jhansi. Dvorak
at no agenda social.com. And as
2:17:41
part of our value for value
model, where all we ask you for
2:17:44
is to think deep inside your
heart. What kind of value did
2:17:48
you get from this podcast? Can
you give something back? Would
2:17:51
you like to return the value?
There's a number of things you
2:17:54
can do time talent, treasure, we
have people doing amazing work
2:17:58
for us and, and boots on the
ground reports is really being
2:18:03
part of the large no agenda
community. We also love. The
2:18:08
treasure part is very important.
But we have artists who make art
2:18:12
for us. So we can always have a
fresh piece of art for every
2:18:16
single show. And it is very
beneficial. Very few shows do
2:18:21
this. And people like it. It
gets people interested. They see
2:18:25
it on social media or they see
it anywhere you get your
2:18:29
podcast. And like what what is
this when you click on this and
2:18:32
then other reminded that's no
agenda because those guys have a
2:18:34
new piece of art every single
time. So we want to thank the
2:18:38
artists for episode 1551. That
was our Palindrome show Big Mike
2:18:43
and the rock and the art was
from capitalist agenda. Now we
2:18:48
had a hard time selecting a
piece of art. This was it was a
2:18:53
great piece. We both liked the
piece. In general it was a tank
2:18:59
in a pineapple, which was ITM on
it which it really didn't make
2:19:03
any sense unless you heard the
show which is what it is
2:19:06
sometimes. But you know we had
the pineapple pizza we were
2:19:11
talking about you
2:19:12
John C Dvorak: need the one you
liked the most was the piece of
2:19:14
bigotry by correct the record.
You were a big fan of as a piece
2:19:18
of pie a piece of pizza that was
signed. And I was a fan of
2:19:24
Adam Curry: I was more a fan of
Dame Kenny Ben's crushing the
2:19:26
narrative. You didn't like that
at all? Oh
2:19:29
John C Dvorak: no. That we had
that. I agree you'd like that
2:19:32
one too. So you had those two
but I didn't like to crashing
2:19:35
the narrative at all. I just I
What was the point of the Fisher
2:19:37
fist bump? I don't know. So
2:19:40
Adam Curry: know what you wanted
was the new drug from certain
2:19:43
net Ned.
2:19:45
John C Dvorak: No, I went to
coffee for kids for from certain
2:19:48
net net and
2:19:49
Adam Curry: right but we both
agreed that there wasn't clear
2:19:52
enough that it was coffee that
they had needed to swap
2:19:55
John C Dvorak: some logos that
we thought a for example,
2:19:59
Starbucks logos on the coffee
even though this promotional I
2:20:02
think at least make the point
Yeah,
2:20:04
Unknown: yeah
2:20:05
Adam Curry: Darrell but you
liked the new drug because it
2:20:07
had take twice weekly contains
part Curry One part Dvorak media
2:20:11
deconstruct you'd like that one.
2:20:13
John C Dvorak: I did like that
one but you poo pooed it because
2:20:16
when you don't like art you
claim it's unreadable. Yeah. So
2:20:22
Adam Curry: a bone of contention
arises once
2:20:25
John C Dvorak: again. So you
like your inbox? Let's be
2:20:28
honest, you'd like
2:20:29
Adam Curry: comics for bloggers
butts.
2:20:32
Unknown: The Kpop bots Yes you
do.
2:20:34
John C Dvorak: I thought that
was cute. I thought it was cute
2:20:35
use of some sort of but but then
it then a default back was the
2:20:43
one we pick which is media
colada. Media colada. That's
2:20:47
what it was. Yes. And because it
brought into pineapple, which
2:20:51
was part of the pizza story and
it the rest of it, which is
2:20:55
nonsense, but it was a nice
piece. It was well done. And so
2:20:59
we picked his quality it was a
2:21:01
Adam Curry: good piece and I see
that people have already been
2:21:02
making new pieces for for this
show. We
2:21:07
John C Dvorak: I also by the
way, I also like to should bring
2:21:09
this up from MC MC gooey. tranny
fluid. Yes,
2:21:16
Adam Curry: it was too small.
2:21:18
John C Dvorak: But for the Bud
Light was it was a transmission
2:21:21
fluid.
2:21:22
Adam Curry: With Bud Light on
it. It's an automatic trans
2:21:24
fluid. It was great. It was
2:21:26
John C Dvorak: it was a great
piece but to Canada's oil or
2:21:31
what trend transmission was too
small. Yeah, it's really too
2:21:35
small. You eat blowed up. You
can't read the automatic
2:21:38
transmission fluid or automatic
trans fluid.
2:21:41
Adam Curry: It was a very funny
joke.
2:21:43
Unknown: It was very funny.
2:21:44
Adam Curry: It would have been
executed. I think it would have
2:21:46
been a winner. People would have
thought it was very funny.
2:21:49
John C Dvorak: It is funny. I
think it's still funny, but it's
2:21:51
not. It's too dinky. Yeah.
2:21:54
Adam Curry: And now, and now the
joke is gone. I don't think we
2:21:56
can do it anymore.
2:21:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the jokes
over ones too old.
2:22:02
Adam Curry: All right, let's
thank our executive and
2:22:04
Associate Executive producers
for episode 1552 of the best
2:22:08
podcast in the universe. We have
a lot of 3333 Dots, 30 threes,
2:22:15
and some longer notes,
everybody. But I think in
2:22:20
general, we can just considering
we have no nights no title
2:22:23
changes. We have only one meet
up report. We can blow through
2:22:27
this in one go instead of doing
instead of breaking twice and
2:22:29
still give you some good show
for the money. In fact, may I
2:22:34
play something that only people
who listen to the donation
2:22:37
segment will hear and all those
other people who went away those
2:22:39
losers will be missing out on?
Sure. Okay, so we've been we've
2:22:45
been told that we have a lot of
fans in aviation. That's
2:22:48
understandable. I am an aviator.
And we have air traffic
2:22:53
controllers who are thrown out
in the mornings from time to
2:22:56
time, we'd like to add very much
in Nashville. We met Steve and
2:23:03
Jessica and they are pretty much
the Ken and Barbie of the no
2:23:08
agenda show. He is a pilot for
Southwest. She is a flight
2:23:15
attendant for Southwest
beautiful. He's seven feet tall.
2:23:20
You know she's got the blond
hair and the great people.
2:23:24
Fantastic. He's a knight and and
she has a blue. I wrote this
2:23:30
down she has she's an interior
designer as well, I think. And
2:23:37
she has. Tina is going to kill
me because I wrote down the name
2:23:41
of her shop, though. Anyway,
2:23:44
Unknown: I'll get that in a
moment.
2:23:45
Adam Curry: So Steve sends me a
note. He says me now. I liked
2:23:50
it. That ATC is you know the
guys are throwing it in the
2:23:54
mornings. I haven't heard one
yet but when I do I'll be sure
2:23:56
to respond within the morning
says for two years, you know
2:23:59
southwest they can they do their
own their own little thing.
2:24:04
John C Dvorak: They have a
comedy act that they do in a
2:24:06
plane which is which was taken
from PSA. Pacific Southwest
2:24:10
Airlines, which is where they
stole many of these ideas are
2:24:13
set for the smile that was used
to be on the plane. But they do
2:24:17
a comedy act when they tell you
to put your seatbelt belt on
2:24:20
it's very complex. Sometimes
they actually have a comedian on
2:24:23
the plane doing a long sketch.
2:24:25
Adam Curry: Yes. It's a dog
would proper.com is Jessica's
2:24:30
store. So so they have a lot of
leeway to do whatever they want
2:24:35
on the public address system.
Steve says I've been doing this
2:24:39
that what do you want about to
play for you for two years? And
2:24:44
not all my co pilots understand
it but it usually results in me
2:24:47
hitting them in the mouth. So
imagine you're in southwest This
2:24:51
is the pre takeoff announcement.
And he had one of his flight
2:24:56
attendants record this for him.
Okay, here we go.
2:25:06
Unknown: Ladies and gentlemen,
welcome aboard in the morning
2:25:08
from Paul and Steve up front are
your pilots flying you to St.
2:25:11
Louis today. I'll be off the
gate and on our way in just a
2:25:14
few more minutes of flying time
to St. Louis today one hour and
2:25:19
33 minutes headed to St. Louis
at a cruising altitude of 33,000
2:25:25
feet. St. Louis weather last
hour reporting mostly sunny
2:25:30
skies looks like the temperature
their mid 70s with winds laid on
2:25:34
the north. Getting off the gate
and underway shortly. Thanks for
2:25:37
choosing us here at Southwest
today. Welcome aboard in the
2:25:40
morning.
2:25:45
Adam Curry: He says he has he
has not had had heard in the
2:25:50
morning back yet in two years
that he's been doing it.
2:25:54
Unknown: But you gotta love
that.
2:25:58
John C Dvorak: That'd be great
to be on that plane.
2:26:01
Adam Curry: I'd be right I'd be
storming the cockpit. I love
2:26:03
these guys. Alright, let's kick
off the donations today with
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builder Mike and Eddie stone
Eddie stone at Easton,
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Pennsylvania 333 dot 33. In the
morning this notice to accompany
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my donation in commemoration of
my birthday my 61st which
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happens on the show day this
year. Birthday list. You're on
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it. I'm also attaching the file
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free 3333 You can have a
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John C Dvorak: the cash
register.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, we like it a
lot Barnhart donation. I first
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heard of no agenda no factual
listening to the Barnhart
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podcast a few years ago okay.
And became a regular listener
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for news thanks guys. I'm on a
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That's ba r and h AR d t dot biz
for you and Jhansi thank you for
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Ma'am, my heart shall not fear.
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Okay, that was nice. Thank you
very much thrown in some Latin.
2:27:19
Unknown: You're on the list. You
2:27:20
Adam Curry: got a man Thank you.
2:27:21
John C Dvorak: All right, next
is Dennis O'Brien, out of
2:27:24
Brooklyn. And he gets gives us
33333 And I'm going to skip one
2:27:29
of his paragraphs because
today's is 33rd birthdays on the
2:27:33
list I've been listening for
almost exactly three years as
2:27:35
such it's high time to finally
gave me some of your much
2:27:38
deserved V for me. Please do
douche me. You've been D deuced.
2:27:45
When he like a jobs Carmen a
sampling of Al Sharpton. He says
2:27:49
he doesn't catch every show like
he used to but I still try and
2:27:52
listen when I can. It's a rare
and precious thing in American
2:27:55
media to he'll hear well
informed opinions from smart
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guys with interesting life
experiences who don't have to
2:28:01
impress anybody or worry about
getting sacked for pissing off
2:28:06
the wrong billionaire. This show
is special please keep it on. A
2:28:11
final note to my fellow WAPP
ease commit these words to
2:28:14
memory no conspiracy is
necessary where the interests of
2:28:17
the powerful are aligned.
They'll still call you crazy but
2:28:21
one in 10 might stop and think
about it for a minute stay safer
2:28:25
else jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs. Karma
2:28:35
Unknown: is the measure of
wherever the country begins in
2:28:39
the state of Wisconsin, a
national drive to push back or
2:28:44
whether we have more to go to
build a movement of resistance
2:28:50
but resist we much we must and
we will much about that. Be
2:28:58
committed doc
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classic
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Adam Curry: classic, classic
sharp classic was the classic
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corporate legal legal ism
Baytown, Texas 333 dot 33 first
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timer corporate legal legal from
Texas. You have inspired me I
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have moderated primary debates
for local political
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organizations. I'm planning to
launch a bid for a district
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judge seat the Texas torque
wrench for precise application
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of law Thank you
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John C Dvorak: 333 33 comes from
Sir BNA in Nashville, Tennessee.
2:29:28
This
2:29:28
Adam Curry: is our pilot this is
our this is our Steve our
2:29:32
Southwest pilot right here.
2:29:34
John C Dvorak: Steve Ben stra
sir BNA a he says that note for
2:29:40
three things hey get mo nation
Mother's Day is May 14. That's
2:29:44
coming up. And my smokin hot
wife Jessica has the perfect
2:29:48
gift box for mom and here we go.
Here it is. www dogwood
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proper.com. I've been using in
the morning on all my welcome
2:29:57
aboard pas and ATC word radio
chicks underwear He played one
2:30:00
of them hopefully this trend it
will be changing in other words
2:30:05
he wants to hear from some no
agenda listeners when he when
2:30:09
you leave the plane you can say
something in the morning gives
2:30:12
John trade Kara Swisher then
then when a bit go ahead is
2:30:17
spoken shouldn't care a
colleague say okay John, rather
2:30:22
than Adam say okay Kara. Sure.
Okay, jingles, Bogey bogey and
2:30:28
that's true. Thank you for your
courage, Steve. Okay, maybe I
2:30:31
should do the. That's true
first. Sounds a little better
2:30:37
that way. Oops. Come on. It's
true. Here we go. That's true
2:30:51
Adam Curry: I feel bad should
be. It's true. That's true. It's
2:30:54
true.
2:30:55
Unknown: It's true. It's true.
2:30:56
Maybe this one is true. That's
Trump.
2:31:00
John C Dvorak: When we lost it
we lost it's true.
2:31:02
Adam Curry: I don't know what's
going on. Now. He that's not
2:31:04
possible. That's not true.
2:31:06
John C Dvorak: But it's not
lost. It's just lost.
2:31:09
Something's gone. How much
misplaced thank God here she is
2:31:14
glad we have
2:31:15
Adam Curry: Maynard throne is in
Tracy, California. 333 dot 33.
2:31:19
Short and sweet. I'm a driver
for a large grocery chain. John
2:31:22
really nailed it when he said we
are educating truck drivers
2:31:25
listeners since 2016. That we're
educating truck drivers. Comma
2:31:30
listeners since 2016. A donation
is long overdue, please deduce
2:31:36
ben de deuced along with a John
donate, donate, donate see and
2:31:46
that is this one and peace and
love to you both know I'm sorry
2:31:51
Maynard throne Tracy California.
2:31:55
Unknown: This the one you've got
2:32:02
Adam Curry: Dawn karma nice
nailed
2:32:07
John C Dvorak: down. Do you have
the note because I don't have it
2:32:09
Adam Curry: I do let me go and
grab that. There's two notes
2:32:13
which one is this? Christopher
2:32:17
John C Dvorak: I found it Oh,
good. Hey, it just Christopher I
2:32:20
pay goals who came in with 33333
Adam sharp mispronouncing his
2:32:24
last name. And he writes Hey,
John, and this is Christopher
2:32:28
from Menominee. Mama no money.
Money no money, man. No money No
2:32:33
money. No money. No money. No
money. No moon if I keep saying
2:32:38
I can't say man no money, no
money. I'm gonna enjoy this.
2:32:42
Check. 3333 is good. The show as
of late has been lacking in sumo
2:32:48
analysis. Oh, the reason is
because the tournaments are
2:32:52
every other month. John was you
think of that cure beyond a
2:32:57
carry beyond us. You show when
and what is your thoughts on the
2:33:01
main tournament? Is it push
Shiro is time? You know,
2:33:07
speculating on who's what Sumo
is going to win the tournaments
2:33:10
I've always found to be kind of
weird because this is like it's
2:33:15
I don't know how to say it. But
it's it's like speculate on
2:33:18
who's gonna win the NASCAR race.
And they do it. Oh, I think guy
2:33:22
Thank gosh, also is going to
win. No. You never know who's
2:33:25
gonna win. It's just some guy
gets lucky and wins a few key
2:33:28
matches. Also, can you say it's
scary? My niece? My niece thinks
2:33:33
it's your best catchphrase. No,
no, it's a scam scam.
2:33:36
Adam Curry: You gotta say it
right.
2:33:37
John C Dvorak: It's a scam. It's
let me get it right. It's a
2:33:40
scam. Nice. Stay dangerous.
Christopher.
2:33:44
Adam Curry: Thank you. Michael
Dorman is in Redmond Washington.
2:33:47
333 in the morning Jen thanks
for all you do please accept
2:33:50
some value for value jingle ants
in my pants. I think he means
2:33:53
ants, the ants. Classic ants.
We'll play a little bit of it.
2:33:56
May I please have some
relationship karma hands as I'm
2:33:59
starting off something with a
new special lady peace and love
2:34:03
to you both course. A little bit
of that for you.
2:34:07
Unknown: Just a little bit of
the ants, ants ants. I got ants.
2:34:11
I got ants
2:34:23
you've got karma you
2:34:27
John C Dvorak: Lauren Powell.
Pillet Polesworth pelo Palla
2:34:32
Woda Palais WADA political i
There's a way of pronouncing
2:34:36
this like not gonna get it I
don't know what it is. Hello
2:34:41
Paulo Woda is what it looks like
to me but okay, and she's in
2:34:44
Chandler whatever the case,
Arizona she comes up with 333
2:34:48
that as did Michael Dorman. How
do you bow howdy to you both. As
2:34:54
much as I would love to say no
jingle no jiggles. She's got a
2:34:57
year. Yeah. Get No jiggle, no
jiggles no karma I can't. I
2:35:04
could I get a foamer trains good
plains bad and some goat karma
2:35:08
at the end of the note, let me
be brief. I just made this
2:35:11
donation very early in the
morning while my smokin hot
2:35:14
boyfriend is asleep. His
birthday was an April 29 and I
2:35:17
failed to get him a birthday
shout on the Sunday show. So I
2:35:21
had the idea to donate 333 and
ask what goes toward the
2:35:24
eventual knighthood of Eric
Bradley. But I would like to
2:35:28
executive producer if that's not
too much to ask. Good for you.
2:35:33
Good. Yeah, I agree. Anyway, I
know he's listening to the live
2:35:37
show. So I guess this is
somewhat of a surprise for him.
2:35:40
Happy belated 27th Birthday to
you. Harsh gut.
2:35:45
Unknown: Hi hirers golf horse
hoof partial partial golf. What
2:35:52
is it? Well, it's German
2:35:55
John C Dvorak: youth 3333 closer
to being a night now love you
2:35:59
mean it?
2:36:01
Unknown: Oh my god. On the board
trains planes are mine.
2:36:17
Adam Curry: Greg Birch. Oh,
there's Greg Birch.
2:36:20
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's he's a
baron. He's our den Baron Greg
2:36:23
versus the official no agenda
dentist dental professional
2:36:27
Adam Curry: from from way up
north in Port Angeles,
2:36:31
Washington. $300. Thank you
Greg. Birthday may 6 First one
2:36:35
without my father. I'm sorry
ma'am. I also understand all too
2:36:38
well. How much Adam surgery
cost? Not overboard. Haven't
2:36:41
missed the show. Cheers sir.
Birch. Thank you. Thank you sir.
2:36:45
Birch. Nice guy. I still use
one. He was the first one that
2:36:49
turned me on to the Sonicare
toothbrushes he sent me one
2:36:51
John C Dvorak: and I've been
using it ever since he went to
2:36:53
mind blew up I had to buy
another one blew up
2:36:55
Adam Curry: like exploded in
your face wave Vu up like a
2:36:58
vapor.
2:37:00
John C Dvorak: Sir John and
Blaine, Minnesota nuts 299 He
2:37:04
becomes Associate Executive
Producer and he says best show
2:37:07
ever last Sunday I believe. Very
interesting that Tucker and Dawn
2:37:14
analysis. Don wanted to get a
quick donation off before the
2:37:19
deadline and can't wait and
can't for the life of me find
2:37:23
what the exact email is for the
note. Adam, would you please
2:37:28
tell the listeners out there
what the note address is?
2:37:32
Adam Curry: Note notes notes and
ote s at no agenda show dotnet
2:37:38
notes at no agenda show dotnet
that's notes at no agenda show
2:37:42
dotnet
2:37:43
John C Dvorak: went to the
rickety devora.org page which is
2:37:46
being changed as we speak and it
still says to send money to
2:37:50
Jonathan or send notes don't
remember that but if it did, I
2:37:53
got it. Nice forwarded to Jay
we'll put it in his reg not
2:37:57
anonymous, it's
2:37:57
Adam Curry: a donation in the
subject line.
2:38:00
John C Dvorak: And it said
donation in the subject line
2:38:02
wisely. Yes. So that gets his
official voice wherever he goes
2:38:07
on. Keep them coming guys have
the greatest Michaud ever did?
2:38:11
No jingles Oh Come on Mr. John
of the Dunkirk mudflats,
2:38:15
Adam Curry: Baron of Whistler
and Whistler BC I've been to
2:38:18
Whistler. Fantastic that glacier
up there California. A Canadian
2:38:21
I'm sorry 244 dot 91 this is 333
Canada Navion That's right. We
2:38:27
have to upgrade him who are
upgraded analyst to be upgraded.
2:38:31
We still do that even though
your money is getting pretty
2:38:34
pathetic. I mean, it's short.
You're short. You're
2:38:38
shortchanging us by like 60
bucks crazy. And our dollar
2:38:42
keeps tanking my annual may 5
birthday dinner a donation John
2:38:45
forgot, so I can't complain
about the sink complain about
2:38:49
the Cinco Demayo promo this
year. What did you forget?
2:38:53
John C Dvorak: I forgot to plug
that tomorrow. Cinco de mio. Oh.
2:38:59
Oh.
2:39:00
Adam Curry: Happy birthday to
Theo to Theo's on the list I
2:39:03
guess. No, no. Yeah, yeah, yes,
he
2:39:05
John C Dvorak: is. He's on the
list. In your
2:39:08
Adam Curry: Theo Theodosia
2:39:09
John C Dvorak: so your Dorthea
DeVore IKEA.
2:39:10
Adam Curry: Oh, the adorable How
old is the adorable turning?
2:39:14
John C Dvorak: He's going to be
six.
2:39:15
Adam Curry: Oh man I used to
obey still make them do crazy
2:39:18
stuff. Like what? I know stuff
that his mother hates.
2:39:22
John C Dvorak: Oh, well. I mean,
if possible. Yeah, of course the
2:39:25
latest just give us a label. I
haven't got any latest ones
2:39:28
because you know he's been
grumpy and he's not always just
2:39:33
Adam Curry: opportunity. He's a
divorce wreck. He's
2:39:35
John C Dvorak: Grumpy. Grumpy
kid.
2:39:39
Adam Curry: Happy birthday to
see oh thanks for keeping it
2:39:40
real regards Baron of Whistler
lose go karma please. And we got
2:39:44
that for you, man. You've got
2:39:51
John C Dvorak: sure Tooth Fairy
envelop arrived Valparaiso,
2:39:55
Indiana. Hey, guys, John Irish.
If my copy of too many eggs the
2:40:02
other day nice what a wonderful
cookbook, please tell me me. I'm
2:40:06
greatly enjoying it and can't
wait to try some of the recipes
2:40:09
this weekend. I'll keep you
busy. Adam, thank you for
2:40:13
sharing your dental implant
experience you're hearing
2:40:17
improved after the infected
molars being removed is very
2:40:20
interesting. I've been screening
my heart of hearing patients for
2:40:24
undiagnosed sinus infections
since I heard your story. Cool.
2:40:29
Thanks for all you do. And Adam,
could you please not be so short
2:40:33
with John? What is this? He
means well yeah, and I agree
2:40:39
with with wizard Sure. I'm not
sure we yeah, good karma for all
2:40:45
please. Tooth Fairy. Oh, wow. I
only Wow.
2:40:50
Adam Curry: I would appreciate
you letting me know if you've
2:40:52
found any undiagnosed sinus
infections than that and I need
2:40:56
to hook you up with Mitch
Maverick. My periodontist. We're
2:41:00
going to start a revolution I
think all right. Yes, of course
2:41:04
we got Yeah, karma for you. No
problem. You've got karma. Those
2:41:12
are the executive and Associate
Executive producers for episode
2:41:15
1552. We thank you all very
much. These credits that you get
2:41:20
are permanent. They never go
away. You will always be an
2:41:23
executive producer or Associate
Executive Producer of this
2:41:26
episode. You can flaunt that
broadly wherever you feel like
2:41:30
it you could put it on all kinds
of places your resume or
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LinkedIn profile IMDb, you can
actually use this and start IMDb
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profile IMDb profile, they are
accepted. And they are
2:41:41
recognized there. And unlike the
douchebags in Hollywood, if
2:41:44
anyone questions this, we'd be
happy to hop on the phone and
2:41:47
vouch for you. We got a couple
of meetups to talk about John's
2:41:51
gonna take us through to the 50s
right now.
2:41:54
John C Dvorak: Match saying
yeah, we do a few people to
2:41:55
thank continue to thank and we
start with Matt and St. Clair
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images names and amounts. Man
St. Clair as Matt in St. Clair,
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Michigan 133 dot 33 urbana
boulders lol Oh, oh, it's
2:42:12
boulders. Is it really boulders
not builders? I don't know. But
2:42:15
anyways, Urbana boulders LLC in
Urbana, Illinois, Illinois.
2:42:22
Baron lattic. In in Houston,
Texas, John Rowe Benet Parts
2:42:25
Unknown Ron Chambliss is in the
Indiana metal metal dog machines
2:42:33
in Rocky Mountain House Alberta
2:42:36
Adam Curry: sent 100 Send us a
machine to try one a machine
2:42:41
machine and I want to Boulder
2:42:44
John C Dvorak: boulder be handy.
Boulder. You could use one in
2:42:49
your yard. I could Patrick
Brandon at sick oh, by the way.
2:42:52
Those are all $100 donors sorry.
Patrick brand is 8686 Kevin
2:43:00
McLaughlin is back with 808
Eating out just how many can he
2:43:04
do? Yeah. Gabe defend he's in
locust North Carolina. Gabe?
2:43:08
Gabe the Farrior? What's a farm
area three or four year? It says
2:43:14
Farrior and it came right off
the spreadsheets Brentwood,
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California. Farrior 808 y n y n
Kartini in Torrington,
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Connecticut 7421 Quarry rule in
Marion, Iowa 7183 instrument
2:43:35
check or something I'm not sure
what he wants. Sarah Hubert in
2:43:39
Mitcham UK sent us a really
sweet note on a piece of on a
2:43:44
pig. And she is it's just an
interesting note she said I
2:43:50
guess does murals or something
she's a she's an itinerant
2:43:54
artist and want to thank her for
that but
2:43:58
Adam Curry: why don't you read
the note? The trouble of sending
2:44:01
it on a pig?
2:44:02
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I have I
have it. I have it. You have it.
2:44:05
Why don't you read it in the
2:44:06
Adam Curry: morning John Adam
here's my rather late Happy
2:44:07
Birthday John donation you see
is important. Yeah, it is for me
2:44:11
7158 58 P That's Pence is for my
birthday, which was on the
2:44:18
fourth it's late because I was
value for valuing in a remote
2:44:21
rural South African Zozo
village. Oh, I've seen I've seen
2:44:26
Sarah's work she sent me a
picture of this. I paint murals
2:44:29
and teach local artists in
return for accommodation and
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meals. Check out the beautiful
Bulu lunga lodge pronounced boo
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boo Lauren Gula Gula Gula at
boom hula hula hula Bulla.
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raceless. OUT B ULUNGUL a.co.za
for South Africa. In my five
2:44:52
weeks there I unplugged from
everything except the best
2:44:57
podcast in the universe.
unmissable love slit from hair
2:45:01
Sara Huber Thank you Sarah. Nice
note worth it.
2:45:04
John C Dvorak: Yeah, she's
actually famous Max Wyndham in
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spring Texas $68 Hindery?
jowling Yeah, Link yada yada
2:45:15
link and haired here to knit.
herder herder didn't get that
2:45:20
Ian they're here. Hendricks yeah
Lincoln held here.
2:45:25
Unknown: Here to here or die
here
2:45:30
John C Dvorak: 5065 56 And he
wants to give a shout out to and
2:45:35
Peter Strick Verica in here are
2:45:41
Adam Curry: they doing it just
just to get this out of you? You
2:45:44
shouldn't be say love it to be
sending more money for that
2:45:46
people. You make him a monkey
before him. Come on was just
2:45:49
sending more money. More money.
2:45:52
John C Dvorak: Brian Furley 5510
parts a nosy anonymous in
2:45:56
Liverpool. Oh mercy UK mercy
city. 510 Yeah. Arlene's dig.
2:46:02
Gaina in Levittown, New York. I
need some karma. You will get
2:46:06
put down at the end there for
you. 5446 and I could have the
2:46:10
name wrong di GE na Bob Butler's
Nixon coming ga 5069 Mike Vaughn
2:46:16
in Clarkston, Michigan 5036 with
a birthday Dame Dame night is
2:46:23
who this is.
2:46:25
Adam Curry: Mike Vaughn also
says missed make good from Show
2:46:28
1500 Need some baby making
karma? I'll do that for you
2:46:33
Mike. I got the baby making calm
we got the special baby making
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karma.
2:46:36
John C Dvorak: So on game night
and Edmonds Washington is 5015
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And now we got the $50 donors.
Few of them Clara Thornhill
2:46:44
stopped it starts it off in
Toronto dotted mind and dotted
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Unknown: No one said
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Adam Curry: no agenda meetups. I
am now I'm going to the Austin
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meetup on the 13th I believe
Tina is going to be in New York
2:50:41
with her visiting her daughter.
That'll be for Mother's Day. So
2:50:45
I'm going to be them bring my
buddy Jimmy so looking forward
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to everybody at Doc's backyard
on the 13th we had a one report
2:50:53
this is the I might be high
report their 10th 10th coming
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together as a meet up
2:51:00
Unknown: in the morning John and
Adam. We had our 10th meet up in
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Toronto, Ontario, Canada. In
honor of Canada's Bill C 11. We
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bring you the I must be Hi
meetup records. How many
2:51:15
donators in this room
2:51:17
My name is not Troy I'm really
high
2:51:19
in the morning Adam and John
from Toronto still a douche bag
2:51:23
so sorry broke musician.
2:51:25
I'm a douche bag get
2:51:28
Adam creed like DM me come up
with something in the morning
2:51:33
Bitcoin I could buy weed with it
right?
2:51:39
Adam Curry: They actually were
high. That's impressive. Not
2:51:44
just not just a slogan those
guys mean it. Starting right now
2:51:48
if you're in Brookfield,
Illinois, the May the Fourth be
2:51:51
with you meet up is kicking off.
That's for Chicago central Irish
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Times, pub and restaurant. On
Saturday, the Hoosiers Fort
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Wayne club 33 weekend dancers
meet up one o'clock at house
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tavern, a tavern and Coventry in
Fort Wayne, Indiana. We have the
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secret Chinese spy balloon South
Jersey meet up on Saturday at
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one o'clock at Miller's Ale
House Mount Laurel New Jersey.
2:52:12
Hogan's Heroes meet up in Ohio,
Michigan, Ohio, Michigan mixer
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one o'clock. Liberty aviation
museum that's in Port Clinton,
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Ohio. You must RSVP sir Timothy
have no fixed title is
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organizing that. The Delaplane
Virginia new location spook
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meetup I guess barrel oak winery
and brewery in Delaplane.
2:52:33
Virginia. All right. If you're
spooked, you need to be there.
2:52:37
Also on Saturday, the Virginia
Maryland West Virginia tri state
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data science meet up Madison
Village Apartments clubhouse,
2:52:44
the main room in Winchester,
Virginia, done to spook meetups
2:52:48
and the making our own mural up
at four o'clock New York Time
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Cleveland Drafthouse Garner
North Carolina. There you go, TJ
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the redhead at the bar is
organizing hey now and on
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Sunday, our next show day the
build Snohomish back better.
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Snohomish Beck better three
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brewing, Snohomish Washington
and Lacey Chang is leading lady
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three Jane is organizing that we
got a lot of meetups all the way
2:53:16
through where I see may
otherwise at the end of June
2:53:19
already. You see the Netherlands
couple of them he went up to
2:53:23
Amsterdam meet up in Leiden on
the Netherlands going insane.
2:53:28
All kinds of meetups this is
this is something that you need
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in your life. You go to one and
you're guaranteed you will go to
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another one even when you're
vacationing somewhere before you
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know but hey there's a meetup
you always be checking it go to
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Joe agenda meetups.com Look
around search around if you
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can't find a meetup near you
start one is easy and it's
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always a party with
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Unknown: Bom Bom won't be
triggered all you
2:54:02
Adam Curry: say is like It sure
is. How are we doing on time?
2:54:09
Oh, man. You know we don't want
one donation segment we make
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more we do more. Do more
podcasts. So
2:54:17
John C Dvorak: a couple of
things I wanted to play Do you
2:54:19
have an ISO? I do have an ISO I
have well how many do you have?
2:54:23
I appear to have for for some
reason? Well I have one and so I
2:54:28
think you're gonna win but
here's my one. There's your
2:54:31
okay.
2:54:32
Unknown: Oh goodness.
2:54:35
Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, I
could I could fart and do a
2:54:38
better echo when the ISO contest
over that one. Let's see what I
2:54:41
got.
2:54:41
Unknown: Wow, that is really
interesting.
2:54:46
John C Dvorak: Okay, that's it
right there. Well, let me play
2:54:49
the other three. Just the same
guy who said wow, I'm really
2:54:52
high.
2:54:53
Unknown: You're not great at
stoking outrage. Oh, what a
2:54:55
shame. Little to produce I think
what's the This one
2:55:00
Oh yeah. Okay my last one
Russian disinformation
2:55:07
John C Dvorak: is cute but no,
2:55:09
Adam Curry: it's it's definitely
this one. Oh,
2:55:11
Unknown: wow, that is really
interesting because it's really
2:55:16
not okay. That one ask us cute
2:55:19
Adam Curry: All right good what
do you got? You got some some
2:55:21
John C Dvorak: some yeah I
wanted to talk a little about
2:55:22
get to clips because it's so in
you know it's not being reported
2:55:26
well here in this country as
usual because m five M has their
2:55:29
they have their their walking
papers or their orders or
2:55:32
whatever they call it on us my
paper they get their orders and
2:55:36
they're not going to do too much
about this Belgrade school
2:55:39
shooting in
2:55:40
Adam Curry: Serbia. Oh, okay,
good one. I'm glad you got this.
2:55:43
John C Dvorak: So here we have
two I have two clips, and one of
2:55:46
them has a little little tidbit
that won't be talked about much.
2:55:51
And the other one has kind of
another little tidbit that I
2:55:54
want to talk about. So let's
play the Belgrade school
2:55:57
shooting this AlJazeera
2:55:58
Unknown: the parents of a 13
year old boy accused of opening
2:56:02
fire in a school in the Serbian
capital Belgrade have been
2:56:05
arrested. The city's mourning
the deaths of eight children and
2:56:09
one security guard. Police say
the suspect to use his father's
2:56:13
gun in the attack. But the boy
is not expected to be charged
2:56:17
because he's below the legal age
to face trial instead, so be in
2:56:21
the present Alexander Bucha,
which is looking to change the
2:56:24
law concerning the age of
criminal responsibility and says
2:56:28
the Bible were placed in a
psychiatric institution.
2:56:32
John C Dvorak: Ha. So they're
doing something that it was
2:56:35
always talked about in
Escondido, and it just
2:56:37
disappeared from the face of the
earth, arresting the parents for
2:56:42
their bad seed.
2:56:44
Adam Curry: Yeah. And is this
it? Was this kid drugged up?
2:56:49
John C Dvorak: That we don't
have any not? Probably not in
2:56:51
this case, but who knows? Maybe,
but whatever the case was, the
2:56:55
parents of the 13 year old
shooter was arrested. I think if
2:57:01
we started doing that here and
might change a few things, I
2:57:04
would think so. So the parents
are a Russian. And then you hear
2:57:08
this other little tidbit in the
end of the second part of this
2:57:11
report, which I think is another
reason not to really talk about
2:57:15
too much
2:57:15
Unknown: fire on students inside
the hallway before entering his
2:57:19
history classroom, to show to
the teacher first, then turn the
2:57:23
weapon on his classmates as they
tried to flee killing and
2:57:27
wounding many edocs some spaniel
it
2:57:29
was I was walking up the stairs
and I could hear a sound I
2:57:33
thought maybe were kids throwing
firecrackers having fun, but I
2:57:36
could hear it more on the sound
was coming from the front of the
2:57:39
school. I saw the security guard
falling to the ground so I
2:57:42
quickly ran from where I was.
2:57:44
I security guard is also among
the dead, the teacher left
2:57:48
fighting for her life across the
world.
2:57:52
This tragedy occurred in the
lettuce rebel group Nick Primary
2:57:55
School of the fracture
municipality of the City of
2:57:57
Belgrade. Unfortunately, eight
children died and one security
2:58:01
guard was also killed. The
injured children in one school
2:58:05
teacher had been hospitalized.
No one can bring these children
2:58:08
back to their parents.
2:58:10
As parents in the emergency
services courage to the
2:58:12
elementary school in the Serbian
capital. The suspect was on the
2:58:16
phone to the police confessing
the shooting. Before being
2:58:20
arrested in the schoolyard
described as quiet and good
2:58:24
pupil and said to be new to the
class. He was led away by police
2:58:28
his face covered, there is yet
no known motive for an attack,
2:58:32
the police said was carefully
planned to be
2:58:36
as peaceful. This was the list
of children that he intended to
2:58:40
kill. He did it alone, he made
the plan by himself. The plan of
2:58:44
entering the school of exiting
it was found on his desk. And as
2:58:48
he said he determined the
priority targets. This sketch
2:58:51
looks like a video game, a
horror movie.
2:58:54
These sorts of things does not
happen very often in Serbia,
2:58:57
very strict gun laws apply.
2:59:01
John C Dvorak: That doesn't
happen very often because strict
2:59:03
gun laws apply. You can't talk
about stopping with the strict
2:59:10
gun laws.
2:59:11
Adam Curry: That was rather
depressing. I like to leave on
2:59:14
an upbeat note about climate
change. And the reason this is
2:59:21
an upbeat clip is because this
is Kennedy. You know the Joe
2:59:26
Kennedy, the funny guy. The
funny is your senator. See you
2:59:31
Congressman John Kennedy, John.
John Kennedy. Yes.
2:59:36
Unknown: See? Yeah, he's a
2:59:39
John C Dvorak: good question.
Remember,
2:59:40
Adam Curry: I think he's a
senator. So he is badgering the
2:59:43
Assistant Secretary of Energy.
Yeah, who's presented the most
2:59:48
recent plan, which is I guess,
over until 2035, a total of
2:59:54
55 $0 trillion to combat climate
change. Get It sounds about have
3:00:01
you seen this clip?
3:00:02
John C Dvorak: Now I'm sure it's
I know as tight as the style of
3:00:05
clips, though they're all funny.
3:00:08
Adam Curry: All these all the
senators and the Congress,
3:00:11
people when they do this stuff
for the cameras, it's always
3:00:13
performative. It's always, you
know, it's to get votes or
3:00:16
whatever this guy, he
showboating, showboating. But
3:00:19
but in this case, it's really
appropriate. And it's really
3:00:23
good. And he just is, I love the
guy percent of
3:00:26
Unknown: global media. But if
you could answer my question, if
3:00:28
we spend $50 trillion, to become
carbon neutral in the United
3:00:33
States of America by 2050,
you're the Deputy Secretary of
3:00:37
Energy. Give me your estimate of
how much that is going to reduce
3:00:42
world temperature. So
3:00:43
so first of all, it's a net
cost. It's what benefits we're
3:00:47
having from getting our act
together and reducing all of
3:00:50
those climate benefits we're
3:00:51
seeing may ask again, or maybe
I'm being right, maybe I'm not
3:00:54
being clear. If we spent $50
trillion to become carbon
3:00:58
neutral by 2050. In the United
States of America, how? How much
3:01:03
is that going to reduce world
temperatures?
3:01:06
This is a global problem. So we
need to reduce our emissions,
3:01:08
and we need to do everything we
3:01:10
can how much if we do our other
artists are going to reduce the
3:01:13
war for 13% of global emissions?
I don't know do you? You don't
3:01:17
know. Do you can do the math we
need? You don't know. Do you,
3:01:20
Mr. Secretary? So we're 13%? You
know, why won't you tell me? If
3:01:25
we went to zero? That would be
13. For you, you don't know, do
3:01:28
you, you just want us to spend
$50 trillion. And you don't have
3:01:32
the slightest idea whether it's
going to reduce world
3:01:36
temperatures. Now I'm all for
carbon neutrality, but you're
3:01:39
the Deputy Secretary of the
Department of Energy, and you're
3:01:43
advocating we spend trillions of
dollars to seek carbon
3:01:46
neutrality and you can't and
this isn't your money and my
3:01:50
money is taxpayer money. And you
can't tell me how much it's
3:01:53
going to lower world
temperatures there or you won't
3:01:56
tell me you know, but you won't.
3:01:58
In my heart of hearts. There is
no way the world gets his act
3:02:01
together and climate change
unless the US leads tell me
3:02:04
how much it's really you. You
can't tell me either that or you
3:02:08
won't.
3:02:09
Adam Curry: I love that guy. 35
seconds for one last clip. This
3:02:15
guy's boss, the energy
secretary, Jennifer Granholm,
3:02:19
you know the one with a saucers
on her head
3:02:21
John C Dvorak: that she calls
here's the dumbest one in the
3:02:23
whole group. Well, yes, she
3:02:25
Adam Curry: is because tell me
if this sounds like a good idea.
3:02:28
Unknown: Do you support the
military adopting that AV fleet
3:02:32
by 2030?
3:02:33
I do and I think we can get
there as well. And I do think
3:02:36
that reducing our reliance on
the volatility of globally
3:02:39
traded fossil fuels where we
know that global events such as
3:02:43
the war in Ukraine can jack up
prices for people back home does
3:02:48
not contribute to energy
security. I think energy
3:02:50
security is achieved when we
have homegrown clean energy that
3:02:55
is abundant. Like you see in
Iowa, we think that we can be a
3:02:59
leader globally and how we have
become energy independent.
3:03:03
Adam Curry: She wants to put the
entire US military fleet on EVs
3:03:11
hilarious so we're in Iraq or
some you know one of these
3:03:13
desert places we'd like to go
and blow up from time to time we
3:03:16
have to go plug in Yeah, I mean,
really in how about the planes
3:03:21
they also
3:03:21
John C Dvorak: be all EVs? Well,
they're gonna try to do that
3:03:24
too. If they can.
3:03:25
Adam Curry: These people need to
be kicked out. Kicked out. All
3:03:30
of them.
3:03:30
John C Dvorak: How'd they get
in? In competency? Obviously no
3:03:35
rigged elections. Hello.
3:03:37
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Yes.
rigged elections. All right,
3:03:39
everybody enjoy Saturday. You
know, King Charles is coronation
3:03:45
that should be Oh, that's right.
This
3:03:46
John C Dvorak: the big
coronations on Saturday he
3:03:48
played the clips remember? I
know but I didn't realize it was
3:03:51
this Saturday.
3:03:53
Adam Curry: There you go. No
agenda always on top of the news
3:03:56
and behind the title
3:03:57
John C Dvorak: Well, you know
I'm not gonna be there that
3:03:58
wasn't invited.
3:04:01
Adam Curry: Coming up next on
the agenda stream we got Rhino
3:04:03
the bearded with his double O
top 10. Yeah, music on the
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stream all legal cool deal. In
the show mixes we have classic
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April Kirby. We got new DS last
classic Billy Bones and some
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Dustin Jones and coming to you
from the heart of the Texas hill
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country here in your femur
region number six in the
3:04:24
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry,
3:04:27
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where I remain
3:04:29
I'm John C. Devorah.
3:04:30
Adam Curry: We return on Sunday
with another episode of the Best
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us at DeVore ak.org/na Until
then, adios mofos a hui, Hui,
3:04:42
and such
3:05:00
John C Dvorak: Every day
3:05:11
Unknown: for the show like you
didn't have a chance to do
3:05:19
anyway,
3:05:20
Adam Curry: thank you for
producing the best podcast in
3:05:22
the universe while the producers
produce it y'all produce it we
3:05:26
just do it. I've been a listener
for the past few years I have no
3:05:28
recollection of how I found the
show. Stoner owner just dropped
3:05:40
in my lap at first I thought it
was okay
3:05:42
Unknown: back and forth punching
the nuggets It was fun getting
3:05:45
back to see my nephews I really
want a son or a daughter. I
3:05:49
don't care a healthy baby in
this world I guess it's a baby
3:05:53
who would go for that would you
say in fact was wack Bobby and
3:05:56
me have way too much money to
consider that day right? In
3:06:00
hindsight, the family tragedy
kids passing was sad to see in
3:06:05
the society we normalize the
lies that we tell ourselves not
3:06:09
even surprised brain Washington
schools is happening earlier
3:06:12
progress to regress when the men
are getting earlier fixed your
3:06:16
face can lie that I'm looking
certainly here gender affirming
3:06:21
care your parents are you not
scared? Child castration,
3:06:25
mutilation, top surgery scars
kids and treated like stars is
3:06:29
that formation generation
ruining the nation born in the
3:06:32
wrong body got domain mistakes,
who will Barbra Chet GBT is full
3:06:36
of deep fakes. 80% moving from
girls and boys media portrays
3:06:42
the other way and kids are not
what kids are not playing with
3:06:45
their toys SEL social emotional
learning. cradle to the grave
3:06:49
fathers in leadership is what
they yearn for anti trans
3:06:53
legislators since they know more
in my lifetime on medication
3:06:58
therapies more demonizing faith
in a higher God wants you to
3:07:02
relinquish the sovereignty to
God than the latter you like
3:07:06
Saad Sodom and Gomorrah other
times we are living in look
3:07:10
around at all this silly
promoted cities in Norwich and
3:07:14
know well what know what don't
get offended what's a woman
3:07:18
anyway top of the pyramid
transgender
3:07:22
Adam Curry: pollution has come
to light has that information my
3:07:25
wife has worked the last six
years for a company that makes
3:07:28
prosthetic penises for transmit
I mean we have no listeners of
3:07:32
any influence but we've got to
be interesting people
3:07:36
John C Dvorak: we have the apps
we've
3:07:42
Adam Curry: got no note for this
girl males let me just take a
3:07:46
look and nurture
3:07:58
Unknown: to me
3:08:19
back to the ball
3:08:23
Adam Curry: you know if you
smoke weed out musically sound
3:08:25
different
3:08:28
Unknown: this adrift
3:08:31
the bonds I got the bond
3:08:33
John C Dvorak: Amen I'm a like a
lightweight kind of a little
3:08:38
waste.
3:08:39
Adam Curry: Anyone see you in
this state?
3:08:44
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna go
listen to Rihanna.
3:08:56
Unknown: MOPO boruch.org/in A
Wow, that is really interesting.