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May 18th, 2023 • 3h 10m

1556: Uncertainty Complex

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John C Dvorak: Are you gonna wear that?
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Unknown: Adam curry?
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Adam Curry: Jhansi Devora 1820 23 This is your award
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winning get my nation media assassination episode 1556 This
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is no agenda, carrying zero sealed indictments and
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broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here
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in fingerings. And number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
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curry
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all
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wondering why Princess Diana is still in the news. I'm John C.
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Dvorak. Buzzkill.
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Adam Curry: That was of all the things going on. I actually have
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one article about that stupid hoax. Megan Markel, and Harry
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pulled off a bunch of hooey.
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John C Dvorak: What's weird to me is I was trying to get some
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clips yesterday. And it's it was the start. It was top of the
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news. Of course, it was top of the news on NBC back to real.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, it was top of the news, everybody.
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John C Dvorak: First thing they did, did the Durham report.
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Forget it.
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Adam Curry: Now? Why do that? No, we've got Harry and Meghan
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in a cab, which which has eerie echoes of lady dies death. You
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know what, you know what this was? I'll just tell you right
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now. Because you asked why is she in the news? Six hours
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before the the authorities in the UK had once again reiterated
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No, you are no longer Royals, you don't carry out your duties,
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you do not get protection, you don't get a security detail. So
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to prove how they need it, they got into a yellow cab and drove
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home from an event in New York. And that's they were they were
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chased for two hours. I lived in Manhattan. This is not
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happening. You know? Well, yeah. I
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John C Dvorak: have some of that straightened out to correct some
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of your misconceptions. Oh, please. We really because
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because TMZ devoted half their show to this when they were Oh.
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So what happened was they took off in four big sedans. And they
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were chased along the FDR which they could do faster speeds. But
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I don't know that FDR ends I don't know they could do it for
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two hours. And so they went to a police department station and
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said we need help from the police department. They put him
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in a taxi cab get
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Adam Curry: in the cab, you stupid Brett's
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John C Dvorak: this was bull crap from the get I mean, this
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was I agree. 100% it's a hoax. And I didn't have the you
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Adam Curry: just said 100%. Right in the first five minutes
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of the show.
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John C Dvorak: Thank you. Okay. And so I'm going to I'm going to
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agree as what your thesis, but I had no idea of the Genesis, but
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now I know. Yeah, you're right.
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Adam Curry: Okay, so then what you did not see on the
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mainstream news was, was the Durham report, long awaited long
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awaited term report. Actually, you did see it. If you're
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watching. I think it's 300 pages too. Yeah. And I read through
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John C Dvorak: pretty much all of it. It wasn't on CBS. It
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wasn't on NBC. They talked about this. Oh,
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Adam Curry: it was on NBC. I didn't see all the all the NBC
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products had it. But would you like would you like to first
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hear the NBC products that were outrage, or, and lies? Or would
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you like to hear the France 24, which had a surprisingly honest
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report.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, I'd rather hear the lies from NBC.
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Adam Curry: All right. Well, let's start off with actually,
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we'll start off with morning, Joe.
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Unknown: Thank you. This guy was the longest serving Special
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Counsel for years. And the report offers us no new charges.
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No new revelations, not even new suggested rules for the FBI. I
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mean, they were so horrible. She didn't even suggest any new
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rules. He also had investigations into political
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matters that he ended up offering no advice on just more
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bad writing and more bushing posturing to Trumpers. And
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Willie, he actually re litigated cases that he lost in front of
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the juries that he faced over the last four years. Not any
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convictions is another sad, pathetic attempt to make suckers
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and we remember this because we showed their headlines. He
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wanted to make suckers of pro Trump cable news hosts and right
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wing newspapers are already getting burned huddling his lies
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before. What was his goal? His goal was to dramatic was to
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trash premier law enforcement organizations in America and
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attack the men and women who serve every day. It's Department
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of Justice. The only good news is, at least his four year
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taxpayer funded boondoggle. It was funded by working America
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ins walk through the working American lumpsum Trumpism is
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over and Durham has nothing but a tarnished reputation to show
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for
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Adam Curry: Durham as a tarnished reputation. Let's do
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the next
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John C Dvorak: NBC check me for a jump to the day you wanted
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Adam Curry: to hear the lies
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John C Dvorak: What is this guy's problem?
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Adam Curry: Well so the message went out amongst NBC Universal
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clearly by the
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John C Dvorak: way and you did this and this is not read to me
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it's not NBC that's me.
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Adam Curry: And I have an it's an NBC product. Yes, it is an
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MVC pen I have I have an actual NBC product NBC News but first
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let's do another Ms.
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John C Dvorak: Go back I want to know what is what was this guy
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trying to accomplish here?
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Adam Curry: Just to say there was no there there was a big
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nothing burger. That was so pathetic. But that's that's what
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they all did. Every single NBC related report was pathetic like
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this. I mean, there's some very real statements in here. And
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again, I think France 24 did a pretty good job what but you
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want you wanted to hear the lies first. So let's go to Nicole
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Wallace with Andrew Weissman on to debunk this report together.
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Unknown: Andrew Weissman, Manafort, guilty or innocent in
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a court of law Tilty gates guilty he didn't lose gates
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guilty or innocent. Roger Stone guilty or innocent a quarter
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lost guilty. Mike Flynn guilty or innocence. He pled guilty so
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many times.
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Guilty, admitted he was guilty. What's true and said to the
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judge fault, I falsely said I was guilty.
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Papadopoulos and the sinner Guilty, guilty. So
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meet them out of their own mouths or the jury
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because the whole thing is predicated on it's like a rabbit
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hole conspiracy. That suggests that the Trump bar paranoia
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infected his ability to stand back and evaluate whether the
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probe yielded guilty convictions of people who would have had
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nothing to do with any of these questions he looked at it is a
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view from so far down the rabbit hole that what needs a scrub
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what needs some oversight is what Mr. Durham did for four
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years that repelled his longtime prosecutorial partner, Nora
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Dennehy and other high level DOJ prosecutors so
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Adam Curry: again, nothing really about the report. Chest
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this was ridiculous. There was nothing there nothing to see NBC
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News. I don't know who this guy is. But um, MIT pretty much the
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same, only a little more coherent.
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Unknown: It's an exhaustive look at what the investigation code
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name, crossfire hurricane, and there are a lot of different
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Adam Curry: this is true. That's really what the report was about
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was about crossfire hurricane. And the conclusion overwhelming
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from Durham was there was no evidence to start this
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investigation in the first place. That is really the main
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crux of his report,
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Unknown: what the investigation code name, crossfire hurricane,
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and there are a lot of different rabbit trails that this report
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goes down. But I think fundamentally, what it does is
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it suggests that the FBI should not have opened this
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investigation in the first place. And that, as you said, it
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did so too hastily based on uncorroborated information, and
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that basically the FBI was suckered by a bunch of people
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with political agendas. Now the problem with this thesis is that
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it runs directly contradictory to another independent report by
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the Justice Department's inspector general back in 2019,
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which took an exhaustive look and found that, in fact, there
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was proper predication for this investigation if the FBI acted
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appropriately in opening it, and also found no evidence, no
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demonstrable evidence of political bias and doing it now
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obviously, one of the agents involves a man named Peter
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strock, who was found later through text who have expressed
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you know, the animus towards Donald Trump. He's not a Donald
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Trump fan.
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Adam Curry: Remember? Do you remember those texts? I think it
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was a little more than not a Donald Trump fan. It was great.
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Totally out to get him
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Unknown: to tend to miss towards Donald Trump. He was not a
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Donald Trump fan. But he was not the only decision maker here.
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There were others. And look, there's a lot of different
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aspects to this report of him. One of the cases that Trump
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tries to make is that information about potential
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counterintelligence threats involving the Clinton campaign
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was treated differently. But what he doesn't address is the
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context was so context who was publicly asking the Russians to
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find 30,000 missing emails, Bill Clinton, who was expressing
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admiration for Putin. That was the context that Jerome really
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doesn't address this report. Look, the other thing is a lot
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of policy changes, because there were some serious flaws in how
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the FBI approached particularly its application for foreign
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surveillance warrants and the rules have been entirely
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overhauled in that respect. There's also a new rule it says
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the Attorney General has to prove any investigation into a
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political candidate or political campaign and a lot of people
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would say that makes perfect sense given the stakes here.
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Ultimately, this investigation, as everyone knows, did not find
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formal coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia. But
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it found a series of troubling contacts and a Senate,
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Adam Curry: which is nothing in the report. There's there's
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nothing in the report about troubling contacts I'll
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Unknown: just committee report bipartisan went even further and
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said that these contacts pose a counterintelligence threat to
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the United States because the Trump campaign essentially
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opened their arms to help from the Russians.
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Adam Curry: I think you hear what's going on here. Like Well,
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there was another inspector general's office to be ours.
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It's it's they, they do a very good job of this. I have to say
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they do a great job of just making it sound like there's
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nothing in there and that certainly was government had no
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evidence to open crossfire hurricane. Now, of course, he
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didn't charge any anybody. You know, I think there were like
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three charges earlier, one, two were exonerated, one got, you
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know, slap on the wrist. The former Intel officials, they
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were promoting the whole steel dossier, which is completely
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torn apart as paid for paid for by the Clinton campaign in the
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report. None of this, of course, is told nowhere actually. Key
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Foreign Affairs official saw no evidence Victoria Nealon Nuland
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comes out smelling like a rose. She said she told the Durham
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team Oh, she never saw any US government proof of the
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allegations. By I don't even remember hearing that to you. I
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don't remember her say, well, she just wants to make sure she
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doesn't get any glue on her. The Clinton campaign was behind the
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whole thing. This is in the report. And then yeah, but
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that's covered over by the NBC products as all those double
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standards but no Trump he said Putin helped me get the emails.
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The opposites and research for the firm fusion GPS was all paid
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for they went to the media before they went to the FBI, and
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it's really all in there. But yeah, there's no indictment. So
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now therefore, nothing. You got nothing. And even Jake Tapper,
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this was 13 seconds that flew around the internet, which is
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suspected best because it's only 13 seconds and cut off but here
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it is,
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Unknown: regardless of the report is now here. It has
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dropped and it might not have produced everything of what's
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the Republicans vote for me. It is regardless, devastating to
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the FBI into a degree it does exonerate Donald Trump.
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Adam Curry: Whoa, Jake. Dewan. Jake's a CIA guy. You see, we
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know that because he was at the birthday party of some, was it
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the CIA director, not to the system director. I think we
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heard from our boots on the ground. So he's a CIA guy, so he
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doesn't have no problem given the FBI. Here's France 24 Not a
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Unknown: bad report just over 300 pages, detailing why the FBI
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should never have launched a full scale investigation into
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Donald Trump's 2016 campaign known as crossfire hurricane.
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Special Counsel John Durham was appointed by the Trump
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administration back in 2019. To review the origins of the probe
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into links between Trump and Russia. Key claims that FBI
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personnel bias led to a premature investigation.
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Based on the evidence gathered in the multiple exhaustive and
13:28
costly federal investigations of these matters, including the
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instance investigation. Neither US law enforcement nor the
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intelligence community appears to have possessed any actual
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evidence of collusion in their holdings at the commencement of
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the crossfire hurricane investigation.
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He's called on the Justice Department to appoint a neutral
13:47
official to oversee politically sensitive probes. The report
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noted differences in the way the FBI had handled the Trump
13:54
investigation compared to other potential theories, like those
13:58
involving Hillary Clinton. But a lot of the outlined concerns
14:02
aren't new, and had already been published in a report by the
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Justice Department Inspector General back in 2019.
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We found and as we outlined here are deeply concerned that so
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many basic and fundamental errors were made by three
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separate handpicked investigative teams on one of
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the most sensitive FBI investigations.
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In response to Durham's report the FBI said it has already
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implemented dozens of corrective actions that have been in place
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for some time. The findings have provided Trump with some
14:32
ammunition as he plans to run for re election in 2024 amid a
14:37
number of legal battles, but dorms report is actually much
14:40
milder than many may have been expecting after Trump predicted
14:44
a sweeping purge of the Bureau. While mistakes were revealed,
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Durham hasn't unveiled any new prosecutions and included no
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recommendations for further reforms to the FBI.
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Adam Curry: I think that's pretty honest. That report Yeah,
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pretty good. I've heard now This leaves only one one person kind
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of hanging out there in the lurch. And he's now calling for
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prosecution of those who lied on the steel dossier. And that will
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be Adam Schiff, who, of course, we need to supercut for a moment
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to remind everybody what he was saying throughout this whole
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process. Yes,
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Unknown: what evidence we have seen to date, what evidence we
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have seen in terms of the Russian hacking and dumping
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operation, what evidence we have seen in terms of the Russian
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social media campaign, their paid media campaign. And yes,
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the issue of collusion with the Trump campaign, there is
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significant evidence, much of it in the public domain on the
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issue of collusion want
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to get to the point of what collusion is, is sort of what
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hasn't been proven here between whatever the Russians did, and
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the Trump campaign. In fact, the former acting director of the
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CIA, who was a mike Morel, who was a supporter of Hillary
15:51
Clinton, he essentially reminded people took Director Clapper at
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his word on this show, who said, there has been no evidence that
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has been found of collusion, or
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Adam Curry: I love this Devorah schism, this throwing the no
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evidence out there. This is good. Still took the right
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you're picking it up? Yeah.
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Unknown: But his word on this show who said there has been no
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evidence that has been found of collusion? Are we at the point
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of at what point? Do you start to wonder if there is a fire to
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all this smoke? Well, first of all, I
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was surprised to see Director Clapper say that because I don't
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think you can make that claim categorically as it did. I would
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characterize it this way at the outset of the investigation.
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There was circumstantial evidence of collusion. And I
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think
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it's a circuit all you have right now is a circumstantial
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case.
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Actually, no, Chuck, I can tell you cases more than that. And I
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can't go into the particulars. But there was more than
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circumstantial evidence now says, again, I think Do
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you have seen direct
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evidence of collusion? I don't want to go into specifics. But I
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will say that there is evidence that is not circumstantial, and
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and is very much worthy of investigation. So can you
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agree that there has been no evidence of collusion,
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coordination, or conspiracy that has been presented thus far
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between the Trump campaign and Russia?
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No, I don't agree with that at all. I think there's plenty of
17:13
evidence of collusion or conspiracy in plain sight.
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So I think at this point in time, it's really difficult for
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me and many Americans to differentiate between what is
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overhype and what isn't. You've said on more than one occasion
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that you've seen ample evidence of the Trump campaigns Russia
17:28
collusion. Last March, you said you had more than circumstantial
17:31
evidence of treasonous collusion with Russia. What specifically
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were you referring to? And please be specific, because if
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it's true, I do believe Americans have the right. Well,
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I've certainly
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certainly said that there's ample evidence.
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Adam Curry: The guy is just a liar. And so now all we have to
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go after the people who lied on the Steel report, which
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John C Dvorak: was Schiff shifts who who's going to be the next
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US senator? For California? Yeah. Is a stooge for the
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Chinese Communist Party, as is his cohort. Swalwell. California
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is loaded with these guys. Yeah, man. Y'all, y'all, we can't get
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rid of them. Because the California Voter is so stupid.
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They can't they can't. They can't say hey, this guy is a
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liar. Why am I voting for him? No. Vote for him as a vote for I
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mean, as far as I'm concerned, if you're a Democrat, you should
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be voting for Barbara Lee. Barbara Lee, the socialists from
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Berkeley is at least as her own socialist, she doesn't work for
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the Chinese Communist Party. She's not a phony. She's
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definitely not a phony. And she has, you know, unless what has
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to happen in California, just for people that are trying to
18:44
keep tabs on this is Feinstein who looks like a physical wreck.
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Adam Curry: She's has to respond. She's doing great. She
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says, she can't
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John C Dvorak: even open one I actually, she needs to resign.
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And then Newsom has to have the courage to replace her with
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Barbara Lee, who then becomes the incumbent, but he won't,
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it's going to be very difficult for him to do with all the
19:07
pressure from the bad actors like Schiff.
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Adam Curry: Well, let's stick with China for a moment. You
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probably heard the news that Montana finally pulled the
19:18
trigger.
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Unknown: Montana has become the first state to enact a complete
19:21
ban on Tik Tok. The governor there signed that bill today.
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The measure is set to take effect on January 1, the law
19:28
bans downloads of Tik Tok in the state and would find any quote
19:32
entity like your phone's App Store
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or Tick Tock $10,000 per day for each time someone is offered the
19:40
ability to access those penalties would not apply to
19:43
users. The move is expected to be challenged legally with a
19:46
tick tock spokesperson arguing it infringes on people's first
19:50
amendment rights.
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Adam Curry: So of course, this is this is phenomenally funny.
19:54
So the Apple and Google Play app stores will not be allowed To
20:00
offer these tick tock for download, you can use it if you
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got it if you side loaded or if you use the web browser, I guess
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this isn't such a bullcrap
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John C Dvorak: illegal, illegal, totally legal, and it'll be
20:14
thrown at it within a week.
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Adam Curry: Well, but here's the cool stuff. So one of the one of
20:21
the senators who was pushing this restrict act is Warner
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Democrat from Where's Warner from?
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John C Dvorak: Are you talking about the national Act this
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year?
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Adam Curry: No, but I'm just this Montana is, you know, their
20:36
broader game, I
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John C Dvorak: think Warner Sure, Virginia. But I'd have to
20:39
look it up. I'm not sure.
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Adam Curry: So Warner is one of the sponsors, one of the authors
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of the Restrict Act, which as we know, has been kind of touted as
20:50
a patriot 2.0 act. But it's all based upon this endless
20:55
conversation about tick tock spying on tick tock, the Chinese
21:00
Communist Party that all your data unlike any other app in the
21:03
App Store, but unlike anything from Facebook, or Instagram, or
21:07
any any other myriad of social networks. No, no, no, it's only
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tick tock. And of course, they are going to influence the
21:14
American children into hating the country. You don't need tick
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tock.
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John C Dvorak: You just need our grammar schools. That's right.
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Just
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Adam Curry: just what I'm into school. But as we always know,
21:26
when people get on a podcast, particularly it if you know
21:32
what's coming, particularly politicians and people of other
21:37
public ilk. It's like they take a stab at
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John C Dvorak: what happened? Yeah, they go, Oh, it's
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Adam Curry: just a podcast. I can say whatever I want. Now,
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this happened to be the award winning pivot podcast, where
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Warner was asked about the Restrict act and Kara Swisher
21:58
drilled and grilled him and Moon, what do we know?
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Unknown: This is not just Americans. Canada has banned
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tick tock EU, the Brits, Australians, the Indians have
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banded out the other governments abandoned just in terms of their
22:12
governmental use in the BBC. Not exactly some, you know, not
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progressive leaning groups have basically told all their
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journalists get off Tik Tok because chances are you're
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getting monitored. Yeah. So the proof you you're the head of the
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Senate Intelligence Committee. I'm
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guessing you've seen the proof.
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I can tell you this. There is a reason why every law enforcement
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entity it's reason why the armed forces the reasons why every one
22:38
of our 17 intelligence agencies think that tick tock is a
22:42
national security rush. What's
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the reason? Can we see
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I'm not gonna go on? Let's pass the bill and then they still
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gotta make the case of liberty until committed would have to
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then declassify I can't think I can't do magically declassify
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right now but you feel there's ample proof let me be Oh my God,
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let me not act like you eat at the absolute smoking done. Most
23:04
of this potential abuse, not current and not current abuse.
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Adam Curry: Potential not current abuse. What a bunch of
23:14
liars. The act like is happening all the time. Like oh, China's
23:20
stealing our data. No, no, this is all for potential. Not
23:24
current abuse. I mean, this is why pivot is the award winning
23:29
technology podcast.
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John C Dvorak: They never talk about technology.
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Adam Curry: No. Well, they consider this to be a technology
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conversation. I guess. But yeah, so as we know this is partially
23:42
just to give meta and then
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John C Dvorak: they don't get they get a break from these
23:49
advertise these guys are killing them. They
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Adam Curry: really is outrageous. I mean, even what
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was I mean, anything that's happening these days, it's on
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Tik Tok. It's not on YouTube. People aren't streaming live on
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Facebook anymore. All all the good stuff is all on tick tock.
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Be right away. Boom. People are recording stuff. Oops, put it
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out there. What was the they're filming the new movie Twister,
24:13
forget where they were filming it. And there was already
24:16
John C Dvorak: a movie twist. Oh,
24:18
Adam Curry: this is Twister five. Not a single back. You
24:22
know, they're doing it on streets of Oklahoma. I don't I
24:25
forgot where it is. So I'm gonna email me about it. So there's
24:28
not a single video on on Facebook or on the no real no
24:33
real is all on tick tock. This is where everyone's going. So
24:37
yeah, they're all part of this. It's also you know, the, the
24:41
political part is, you know, China, let's get China to get
24:44
China.
24:46
John C Dvorak: You know, I'd like to see a discussion on
24:48
something a little more important than this. They are
24:50
stealing all our data. And the conversation should be about how
24:55
they hell did all these hot shots in Silicon Valley, who had
25:00
tried stuff with vine and others these other ideas of short
25:05
videos How did they have their overnight almost have their
25:10
asses handed to him by a Chinese company called tick tock or by
25:15
the company that runs tick tock, just out of the blue, and then I
25:19
can't now they can't even compete with them. How does that
25:22
work? That that's the most important question. Why we're
25:26
supposed to be the big leaders in technology.
25:28
Adam Curry: I think the answer is simple. That all the good
25:31
stuff you know, the the tech company American tech companies
25:37
have the government so deep up their arses that Oh, no, you got
25:41
to take that off. Oh, no, that's insulting. Oh, no, that's
25:43
misinformation and Tik Tok had none of that there's like no go
25:46
away we're gonna get post all this stuff and they they weren't
25:50
using the the American media model which is always you know,
25:54
ball get to people pitted against each other. Yeah, that's
25:57
great. Get them fighting online. Now the TIC tock but now you get
26:00
all this stuff and all you people go over there. Hey, you
26:02
got pink hair, bad trends over here. It's great. We've
26:05
deconstructed curries. Peach, peach. That's right. Freeze.
26:09
Peach is what it's all about. But there is a new, a new
26:13
boondoggle. This is the AI conversation. I watched three
26:19
hours of this of this hearing, which was led by Blumenthal,
26:26
Blumenthal. And had Holly as the as the minority leader, I guess
26:35
is what they call it. So he's the other side. Just they're
26:38
sitting next to each other and they had three people. They had
26:42
some lady who is she's already have you on? Oh, it would be
26:48
fun. She had some lady who's in government was already in there
26:52
like she's some from some Office of Technology safety. Something
26:56
that nobody cares about useless job. They had Sam Altman who is
27:02
the CEO of of open AI, and he has he's there for very specific
27:07
Miss mission, which we'll find out. It's very, it's very, this
27:09
is such an easy one to deconstruct. And then they have
27:12
a third guy. The third guy they had there was Gary Marcus. You
27:20
know who Gary Marcus's
27:23
John C Dvorak: name rings a bell, but I don't know who
27:26
Adam Curry: it is. He is the guy that he sold his geometric
27:30
intelligence, machine learning startup to Uber. He also started
27:37
the company that the CO invented Roomba. No real high level AI
27:43
type style robot. This Yes. Hi, robot. Exactly. That's this guy.
27:48
And so he I guess it was that he's clearly a stooge. He's,
27:52
he's a psychologist. And he writes books. What are his
27:55
books? Guitar zero. Cluj? So he's a stooge in there just to
28:00
say, oh, yeah, it's very dangerous. Oh, it's incredibly
28:02
dangerous. So three, these three people, there's no one from
28:05
barf. There's no one from Microsoft, who of course have
28:08
who run this whole, you know, who run everything on there as
28:12
your platform. And then you have this Sam guy that you know, who
28:17
as we know, takes almost no regular small salary has no
28:21
stock in the company. He's just doing this because he likes it.
28:25
He likes his job. What a bunch of crap that is. So Blumenthal
28:31
opens up with a couple like I have 30 seconds. And then he
28:37
does this. Our goal is
28:38
Unknown: to demystify and hold accountable those new
28:42
technologies to avoid some of the mistakes of the past. Right,
28:47
what now, for some introductory remarks, too often, we've seen
28:53
what happens when technology outpaces regulation, like why
28:57
unbridled exploitation of personal data, the proliferation
29:01
of disinformation and the deepening of societal
29:05
inequalities. We have seen how algorithmic biases can
29:11
perpetuate discrimination and prejudice, and how the lack of
29:16
transparency can undermine public trust. This is not the
29:21
future we want. If you were listening from home, you might
29:27
have thought that voice was mine. No words from me, but in
29:32
fact, that voice was not mine. The words were not mine. And the
29:40
audio was an AI voice cloning software trained on my floor
29:45
speeches. The remarks were written by chat GBT when it was
29:51
asked how I would open this hearing. And you heard just Now
30:00
the result. I asked chat GPT Why did you pick those themes and
30:07
that content? And it answered, and I'm quoting, Blumenthal has
30:13
a strong record in advocating for consumer protection and
30:16
civil rights. He has been vocal about issues such as data
30:19
privacy,
30:20
John C Dvorak: blowing his own horn,
30:23
Unknown: the potential for discrimination and algorithmic
30:26
decision making. Therefore, the statement emphasizes these
30:31
aspects,
30:32
Adam Curry: this is how these Jamocha literally went into this
30:35
hearing. Boy, it's a magical box, a took just Mike my clearly
30:41
very patriotic stance against horrible technology, it
30:44
recreated my voice, and then it's so true. Chechi beauty is
30:48
magic. It's very dangerous, because you know, could put us
30:53
out of work.
30:56
John C Dvorak: Work we wish
30:57
Adam Curry: and they just went on and on and on with all this
31:00
stuff. Oh, it's both it's out of control. Now, this was for one
31:04
thing and one thing only they want regulation and they want
31:07
reg just like they want regulation against tick tock so
31:10
that they can actually build their little moat around the
31:13
technology. And I'll get to that in a moment after we hear this
31:16
CBS report today on Capitol
31:17
Unknown: Hill, members of the Senate Judiciary Committee grill
31:20
the head of the artificial intelligence company that makes
31:23
chat GPT on the dangers posed by the quickly evolving technology.
31:28
CBS Scott McFarlane reports. The hearing comes as lawmakers
31:31
debate new rules aimed at regulating AI
31:34
and accompanies a Senate hearing on artificial intelligence began
31:38
artificially too often.
31:41
We have seen what happens when technology outpaces regulation.
31:44
The chairman played an AI generated version of his own
31:48
voice and words pretty impressive. Sam Altman who
31:52
operates the virally successful Chad GPT compared new advances
31:56
in AI to the invention of the printing press, but acknowledge
32:00
the risk.
32:01
Adam Curry: I think if this How many times have we not heard,
32:03
this is as big as the printing press. How many times we heard
32:07
that from from Congress 100 times. Blogs are as important as
32:13
the printing press. Podcasts are as important invention as the
32:16
printing press. Social networks are as important in invention as
32:20
the printing press. Gutenberg is rolling in his grave
32:24
Unknown: invention of the printing press. But acknowledge
32:26
the risk.
32:27
I think if this technology goes wrong, it can go quite wrong.
32:31
Congress is concerned at risks waiting too long to pass laws to
32:35
govern AI after failing years ago to set safety rules for
32:38
social media. We should
32:39
be concerned for our privacy, we should be concerned for our
32:42
liberty. And we should be concerned for our control over
32:45
our lives from the
32:45
even the industry itself is urging Congress to create safety
32:49
rules potentially requiring government approval for future
32:52
AI innovations. More congressional hearings and AI
32:56
are set for later this week. In the meantime, some of the ideas
32:59
floated include government safety labels for AI technology,
33:03
and Nora federal agency to license and police the industry.
33:07
Adam Curry: There you go. So they want licensing policing.
33:10
They want complete protection the same way. Now, I have some
33:15
idea. Here's
33:15
John C Dvorak: a here's a short clip from a elegir zero AI
33:19
regulation.
33:20
Adam Curry: Oh, good. I'm glad you have something
33:21
Unknown: that the head of the company that created chat GPT
33:24
has warned us senators that artificial intelligence needs
33:27
regulation. Sam Altman says it's essential to curb the risks by
33:31
increasingly powerful AI as Congress is assessing possible
33:35
threats, including potential manipulation of the 2020
33:39
election.
33:39
Adam Curry: Well, of course, of course.
33:42
John C Dvorak: Did you hear that? Oh, no.
33:43
Adam Curry: This is all over this all over the here. It's
33:45
just just
33:46
John C Dvorak: in case Trump wins. Yeah. manipulated
33:49
Adam Curry: AI manipulation. Chad GPT. That made us lose. It
33:54
gets biased. It's biased. I tell you it's bias.
33:57
John C Dvorak: This happened before the 2016 election. It
34:00
happened before the 2020 election. They put all these
34:02
things in place. Google led the denial during the tweet after
34:06
the 2016 elections that Trump won is completely forgotten by
34:11
the mainstream media went on for for it till this day.
34:16
Adam Curry: All right. So let me just give you a little overview.
34:18
I did not spend the three days in between shows putting Chad
34:23
GPT on my Pixel, although I do believe I do believe that will
34:27
be possible. And we have many dudes named Ben who have chimed
34:31
in and said, Oh, yeah, you can totally run it on your own
34:33
hardware. But here's what I've learned because I've learned
34:37
some things this is important than doing anything but you can
34:39
run it. No, it actually does. Here, here's why everything went
34:44
wrong. It was and I think this is a genius play and you'll like
34:49
this a genius play by Zuckerberg because it was meta who open
34:55
source their AI now with that when I say AI in this As I'm
35:00
talking about the large language model, this is not the training
35:05
part, this is the part that interprets language knows what,
35:08
what your can interpret what you're saying, based upon this
35:11
model of words, and then can also speak back to you in some
35:15
form of human voice based upon this large model. Stanford then
35:20
took this and they started to create something that people
35:25
could actually use at home. I'm cutting a lot of corners here.
35:28
So I went from LL M, the large language model to llama to Al
35:32
pakka to doll, Dolly as in Dalai Lama, an n people were off to
35:38
the races, they could create all kinds of language
35:42
interpretation. Now, the what what is interesting about this
35:46
technology is that we're used to cost $5 million to teach one of
35:53
these models, give them information, and all right now
35:56
process it. So the can take questions and feedback answers,
36:01
that price has come down to about $500, in literally in the
36:05
last six months. And people are now spreading it amongst their
36:08
own CPUs, open source. And you can definitely make very
36:12
specific chat GPT type chat bots, as they're calling it now
36:18
that we can either write code or in fact, anyone who wants to do
36:22
it on and I'd love to see this. We have all no agenda show notes
36:26
going back a decade, which are all XML structured data so that
36:29
you literally could do that with the articles in the show notes
36:33
and the links and the transcripts that we have. And
36:36
that's the what, oh, so that you could ask questions of it from
36:39
the no agenda knowledge base, and it would answer based upon
36:43
the training from the articles and the transcripts that we have
36:47
collected over 10 years. That's what it would do. We could train
36:50
it to do that.
36:51
John C Dvorak: Okay, so that we're we're gonna be stored.
36:55
Adam Curry: It'll fit in that it'll fit in six gigabytes on a
36:59
server. We're on the same page, John, so don't fight me because
37:03
I'm agreeing with you. But I'm telling you the backstory as to
37:07
why Google and Bing and others are going to fail at doing it
37:12
any of this because exactly what you point out. If you want to
37:15
have this a search engine, be able to answer all questions of
37:20
the universe, there's no way it will ever get will there's no
37:24
business model for them in the universe that will work at a
37:27
consumer level, too much power, too much crunching too much
37:32
information. But for businesses, individuals, you can definitely
37:37
load this up and you can do it in your in your accounting
37:40
office for certain IRS regulations, you can definitely
37:45
use this and there is no protection for Silicon Valley
37:48
and is my belief that Zuckerberg made this available, and then
37:54
somehow sparked this arms race, because Google was really caught
38:00
on the backfoot on this, and everyone's running around trying
38:04
to create great stuff. Oh, it's the new blockchain and they're
38:07
failing left and right shit doesn't work. It has answers
38:10
wrong which they call hallucination. I think Facebook
38:13
now swings left or does something that you know Zig
38:18
where everyone else is zagging and they take some market share.
38:22
I mean, it's so obvious that this was a purposeful action. To
38:27
make everybody run around with the with the world this is the
38:30
all that's all that they can talk about on CNBC oh ay ay ay
38:34
ay ay ay ay ay ay ay. Oh, what companies can be using AI. And
38:37
Google has nothing. Being really has nothing. It doesn't work.
38:43
But the actual technology
38:44
John C Dvorak: like the blockchain analogy,
38:47
Adam Curry: that's what it is. So the but the actual technology
38:51
now that this the language model is and is only English, by the
38:55
way doesn't work in in French, as far as I know. I don't think
38:59
it's been done yet. It's a total cloud of bullcrap. Total. And
39:06
now what they want is labels and a government agency and anything
39:11
so they can gain some competitive edge. And I think
39:14
they're going to fail just like the failing with tick tock.
39:18
nimbo the Restrict act? Oh, yeah. Oh, yo, boo, boo Ramnath
39:21
through this not really happening. So this is this is a
39:26
an albatross, particularly for Google. And I kind of like that.
39:32
That's funny. Well,
39:37
John C Dvorak: Google's not a bunch of dummies. So I think
39:40
there'll be some sort of a counter attack here. Well, we'll
39:43
Adam Curry: keep our eye on it. But right now, the only business
39:46
Chad GPT seems to be putting out of business is Google. They're
39:52
reallocating all their resources for something that everyone is
39:55
sitting on, but this sucks. So maybe if you get a rush Get
40:00
through Oh, we have to have Google it has to be the approved
40:03
AI for the 2024 election, I can see that I can see that work in
40:07
form, but not much else. And meanwhile, here's how artificial
40:12
intelligence is actually doing in the real world. It's great A
40:16
car stopped in the middle of the street blocking emergency
40:19
responders, another getting very close to a city bus. This one
40:24
seemingly confused by road construction and frozen in his
40:27
tracks
40:27
Unknown: finally stopped right before falling into a hole. Some
40:30
robot
40:31
Adam Curry: drivers and training do not seem to have learned all
40:34
the rules of the road.
40:35
Unknown: I'm seeing at least one incident a day now with
40:38
autonomous vehicles.
40:39
Adam Curry: For years the city by the bay has served as the
40:41
testing ground for a fleet of Robo taxis from Google's Waymo
40:45
and GMs. Crews. Driverless cars you can hail with a touch of a
40:49
button. But when things go wrong, they are a traffic
40:52
nightmare and posing real roadblocks for first responders.
40:56
Unknown: The autonomous vehicle just like came in blocked him in
40:59
Adam Curry: fire chief Janine Nicholson's people say without a
41:01
driver at the wheel. robot cars often make the wrong choice
41:04
around fire trucks.
41:05
Unknown: They stop in the middle of the street and turn their
41:07
emergency blinkers on anytime they see flashing lights on an
41:10
emergency Miko.
41:11
Adam Curry: Firefighters describe driverless cars rolling
41:13
into fire scenes running over hoses even having to break
41:16
windshields to stop a vehicle.
41:18
Unknown: The technology is not ready for primetime.
41:21
Director of Transportation here says 911 calls about robot cars
41:24
have tripled in the last year. But here's the
41:26
thing. We have no regulatory authority over them whatsoever,
41:29
even though it's your city that's being affected. That's
41:31
right. It's our city and our streets. But the state of
41:34
California has preempted municipal authority over
41:37
autonomous vehicles. Unlike taxis or scooters,
41:40
Adam Curry: Wei mo says robot drivers are on their way to
41:42
being safer than humans. After all, more than 42,000 Americans
41:47
died in vehicle accidents last year. When are we going to stop
41:50
being stupid? Particularly in California this is this is where
41:54
the Californians are stupid. They let that stuff on their
41:57
streets. Yeah. I mean, it's it's insane.
42:04
John C Dvorak: But oh, no, somebody's got to do it. Yeah,
42:06
Adam Curry: but AI is gonna AI we need legislation for me to
42:09
get these cars out there driving all over the place. You gotta
42:12
smash the window to stop it. Yeah. Is that not also AI?
42:18
Unknown: It's totally.
42:19
Adam Curry: Let's do one more. I got a short clip here.
42:20
Unknown: We have very infrequent events that occur that they do
42:25
get a lot of attention.
42:26
They say it's 3911 calls a day about autonomous vehicles. That
42:31
doesn't sound infrequent, but I have to say
42:33
what I mean is relative to the number of miles that we drive
42:36
and relative to the number of emergency vehicle contacts that
42:40
we face on a day to day basis,
42:41
Adam Curry: we most Chief Safety Officer says that every mile of
42:44
millions driven in California and Arizona teaches the whole
42:47
fleet new skills and the company is expanding service here LA is
42:52
next
42:52
Unknown: we hope to increase the number of rides 10x by next
42:56
summer a 10
42:57
fold expansion of autonomous vehicles here in San Francisco
43:00
would have a dramatic impact on congestion it would result in
43:05
significant delays to our transit system and to emergency
43:08
vehicle
43:08
response time and it might even cause a threat to
43:11
safety to hear us la
43:13
yes
43:14
Adam Curry: la We're coming for you should let it loose on Skid
43:18
Row oh I'm sorry We mowed all the tents down
43:26
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's a these reports are a dead
43:30
prevalent around here. No they usually have only the one where
43:33
the guy dies
43:36
Adam Curry: now just blocking traffic and stuff no one talks
43:39
about it well they don't talk about anything in San Francisco.
43:42
No doubt about all your all the stores closing
43:45
John C Dvorak: so they talk about the stores closing believe
43:47
me now they do and although there's a bunch of my favorite
43:50
thing is did people out there should notice this is a news
43:53
deconstruction little moment. It goes the Liberals go just the
43:59
stores are closing because the rents are too high and they just
44:02
want to get a better price for their rents it's a scam because
44:06
if you look at wait right if you look at the debt the at the at
44:12
the crime statistics crime is way down. It's way down. Just
44:17
look at the statistics. So this is a scam okay? That's bullcrap.
44:22
Statistics are down for a simple reason. There's no policing
44:26
there's no reporting of crimes right people don't call it in.
44:30
shoplifting is not reported as a crime anymore. So does crime is
44:34
way down. No. These stores are being are being robbed left and
44:38
right. We just had a guy shot some some poor security guards
44:43
shot some shoplifted I was trying to get out of there. And
44:49
there's luckily the new DA is saying it sitting on the side of
44:52
the security guard. Although the entire city council is making a
44:55
big fuss this guy should be in jail for murder. And even though
44:59
it would deck kind of things should be in the public domain.
45:02
So the shoppers don't think they can just come in, which is what
45:05
they're doing. They're just coming in and raiding these
45:07
places stealing everything that they can get their hands on,
45:10
because of I think it was there's some law that was passed
45:13
statewide that said that crimes under that result and under
45:18
$1,000 In theft under any circumstances a misdemeanor, you
45:21
can't make it a felony. And that law has ruined the state and
45:25
they don't know what to do about it. So nobody's reporting these
45:28
crimes. Thus crime is down. crime is down, because nothing's
45:32
being reported. That's why it's down. It's bullcrap.
45:36
Adam Curry: I was kind of shocked to read this morning.
45:39
You know, I lived in we lived in Jersey for good 910 years. And
45:45
does the swanky mall, the kind of the Rodeo Drive of the area,
45:50
which was not not our mall, we had the Willowbrook Mall. But
45:54
sometimes we drive to the Short Hills Mall. Well, masked men
45:59
steal $125,000 In Dior handbags from the Short Hills Mall. This
46:07
is 20 miles outside of New York City. Yeah, this is crazy. By
46:12
the way, that's only I think, three handbags from New York
46:14
probably who knows how expensive those things are. But you know,
46:19
this is this is a this is a reset of sorts. Really is.
46:24
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you go soft on crime. Yeah. With these
46:28
ideas, oh, well, we just desperately needed some help any
46:31
counseling. These ideas and the criminals take advantage of it.
46:36
I mean, there are people that are that like, enjoy being
46:40
criminals. I just you know, it's no one wants to accept the
46:43
simple fact. Yeah.
46:46
Adam Curry: So, so this whole this whole past week. There's
46:52
just been text groups going around and around
46:55
Fredericksburg. And I've seen this universally on email.
47:01
Buses, they're busing them in they're doing the buses to bring
47:04
them in from the border in the middle of the night. You don't
47:07
know what you're talking about. When we looked at the border
47:09
cameras, there's nothing going on zero. Does not steal. But
47:15
this is very typical of what I get boots on the ground report.
47:19
I was just on the Arizona border this week and family members
47:22
it's always friend family members. Someone else explained
47:25
to me what the video cameras are showing low traffic and no one
47:30
the gum coming through the border. It's simple. They're
47:33
busing the illegals over the border and during the dead of
47:36
night. Family members see illegals hiking the canyons,
47:39
then being bused out from midnight. And where are the
47:42
video you need to turn your speaker's down a little bit.
47:44
Where are the videos? Where are the videos of this? They dropped
47:49
them off somewhere these I've heard they're white buses. This
47:52
is what's gotten out luckily we have a report from Sir Lucifer
47:57
who actually went boots on the ground I think you might with an
48:00
Owen Shroyer and they all that was a very funny video. He's
48:06
he's doing a very good Alex Young Alex Jones. Of course he
48:09
works for Infowars you know yelling about you dirty
48:12
Americans, you know you're not allowed to see this. I mean,
48:14
he's doing a great job. But all they had was video of one bus.
48:18
So here's sort of Lucifer as boots on the ground. He said our
48:21
team arrived at El Paso Wednesday, June 10. So he was
48:24
ready for the whole thing for the 11th, the 12th, etc. Our
48:28
first stop was the Sacred Heart church two days before we
48:31
arrived, there was a video of over 2000 migrants living around
48:35
the church when we arrived there were barely 100 Where did all
48:38
these migrants go? Their disappearance seemed to coincide
48:41
with the masses of national and local media that arrived in El
48:44
Paso on Wednesday, June 10. One of the local things and most of
48:48
the migrants at Sacred Heart were brought to a military base
48:51
in New Mexico, another fine one that was used for Afghan
48:54
migrants during the withdrawal. Our security was alerted to the
48:58
numerous neck tattoos on some of the young male immigrants, which
49:01
indicated they're part of a gang, most likely released from
49:05
prison, and we counted 15 of these neck tattoos. 99% of the
49:08
people we saw are from Venezuela. And these are the
49:11
people who were put onto a bus and they spend most of their
49:14
time between border gates 40 and 42. And the scene was like what
49:19
was heard in the NTD report from the previous show? Yes, National
49:22
Guard was there. Yes, they said a barbed wire. But we also have
49:25
video of them assisting Border Patrol and processing migrants
49:28
not keeping them from entering the country. But it really was
49:31
nothing. There's nothing that had one one bus and then you
49:37
know the Border Patrol backed up trucks he couldn't see who was
49:40
getting onto the bus. I'm going to presume that presumed that
49:42
might have been some gang members or whatever. But there's
49:45
just no evidence and what goes around here and this is what I
49:49
hate about it because it's political. You're all being spun
49:53
up. This was the favorite one that Tina was put on this
49:56
thread. illegal alien fracking map shows movement of the mass
50:01
of illegals across the US 71% end up in Republican districts
50:07
and there's this and the cell phone map on the front page
50:10
here. They say all you see Yeah, we tracked all the cell phones
50:14
and then they're all moving from the border and I'm until you
50:18
know me I like whoa, let me see what's going on where do they
50:21
get the cell phone data from? Well, this is in fact from cell
50:25
phone data that is also not explained where it was acquired
50:28
from from the Heritage Foundation from January 1 2022.
50:33
So the just rehashing stuff and people are going insane there
50:36
are people here in Fredericksburg going sending
50:39
text messages based upon this this story.
50:42
John C Dvorak: Lucky over a year and a half old yes lock
50:45
Adam Curry: your doors be armed at all times. And this is
50:49
spinning people up into oblivion the going nuts. Yeah, it's
50:54
really and this is bad. And this is all political. And I think
50:59
it's really to me it's the Republicans who are doing this
51:02
stuff. They are doing this they want to be they want to make
51:06
Biden look bad. Not that any of you know the
51:09
John C Dvorak: thing is that this thing this this whole title
51:11
40 Tuesday was a you know is going to was a bust. Yeah. Yeah,
51:17
it was a bust and they were prepared for it not to be a
51:19
bust. And so that well what are we going to do? It's a bust
51:23
nobody's coming over didn't did the big throngs aren't showing
51:26
up. What are we going to do? I don't know this run out the same
51:29
playbook anyway.
51:30
Adam Curry: Exactly what they did exactly what they did. And
51:33
they make him people crazy. And then and what are these outfits?
51:37
What is this? Your news.com? Who runs this outfit? And they
51:44
literally have Fredericksburg, Texas, tu tu, tu tu tu tu do you
51:47
put in your zip code? The Heritage oversight project and
51:52
date. And this was just some very sketchy data they had. I'm
51:56
not saying that there isn't a problem at all. But come on
52:00
people. Let's not get all riled up. You're right. And, and also
52:05
now we have we saw it in Chicago. Oh, they're coming but
52:08
they haven't come yet. By the way, that South Shore project.
52:11
That's gonna be real nice when people sell because they think
52:13
that they need to move for the migrants. That's gonna be a nice
52:17
piece of real estate.
52:19
John C Dvorak: Yes, a real estate scam. And part of it is
52:21
Adam Curry: and in New York. Well, the mayor, I mean, he's
52:24
going crazy. Oh, but what are we can have on they're putting.
52:30
They're preparing the migrants to go into school gymnasiums.
52:35
And I haven't actually seen the migrants in the gymnasiums yet.
52:39
But everyone's doing
52:40
John C Dvorak: some tuning Jim nations have J had him in some
52:43
gymnasiums, because it was shown. They had the video and
52:47
then they rousted them. And then they tried to move them off to
52:50
the county discovered pretty adequately by the national news,
52:54
okay, but it's not. It's not what what they don't know what
52:58
to do in New York because New York, the big hotshot sanctuary
53:02
city can't really take the influx of these people. No,
53:06
there in fact, there's one report where they're moving. And
53:10
this turns out to be just a physical, a monetary thing.
53:14
They're moving homeless veterans out of some of the hotels in New
53:19
York and moving the migrants in the migrants in because the
53:22
homeless veterans were they were paying the hotels $99 A night,
53:27
but the the migrants get 199 So the homeless veterans are ousted
53:35
is the way that this was reported. I think rants are one
53:38
of these east west coast guys did this. The the homeless
53:43
veterans are kicked out for the migrants because there's more
53:46
money
53:47
Adam Curry: another 100 bucks extra. Yeah.
53:50
John C Dvorak: I mean, what would you do, though?
53:52
Adam Curry: But besides that, I think it's it's all political on
53:55
all sides, what's going on? All In fact, everything is all about
54:00
the 2024 election. Every day the news media has completely
54:04
capitulated they're just taking any talking points from anybody
54:09
that I don't think they even have enough money to do
54:11
reporting anymore. I don't think doesn't it doesn't appear to be
54:15
that
54:16
John C Dvorak: way. Well, they're not doing it whatever
54:18
the case of most of the I mean, all my I have a lot of overseas
54:22
stuff here. That's that's not being reported at all. I mean,
54:27
the Durham report. misreporting is one thing, but just not just
54:30
leaving complete things. Let me play a couple clip. Yeah,
54:33
please. play this clip. Did you know this was going on? This is
54:37
the yikes clip. Well,
54:41
Adam Curry: just from the title of the clip, I have no idea
54:44
Unknown: on the French President Nicolas Sarkozy has lost an
54:47
appeal against his conviction for corruption. Why according
54:50
Paris upheld his three year prison sentence, but two of the
54:54
years have been suspended. And the court said he could serve
54:57
the third by wearing an electronic bracelet. So Sarkozy,
55:00
his lawyers repeated his claim of innocence
55:03
Adam Curry: jokes, indeed,
55:05
John C Dvorak: when I said, Did you know that that Sarkozy was
55:08
being imprisoned?
55:10
Adam Curry: I knew he was in trouble, but what on earth for
55:13
that he would go to jail.
55:15
John C Dvorak: This is not being reported at all in this country.
55:19
Now, I have to wonder why is it because it was? Well, it's
55:22
because then you, you know, we should be arresting Trump. I
55:25
mean, it's got something to do with politics in this country
55:29
that that story has been repressed is a good story.
55:33
Adam Curry: Yeah. It's a very good story. But what did he do?
55:38
John C Dvorak: Corruption of some sort? Who knows? I mean,
55:40
it's been could have been some trumped up stuff like we've had
55:43
here in this country.
55:44
Adam Curry: corruption and influence peddling. Oh, brother.
55:47
Oh, no, we can't have that because that would put Biden
55:49
front and center. That's how you'd have to report it.
55:52
President Biden has also been accused.
55:55
John C Dvorak: Of influenced by peddling Yes, literally, because
55:57
of his kid,
55:58
Adam Curry: literally influence pet allow him all kinds of other
56:01
beautiful stuff when he was vice president.
56:03
John C Dvorak: So does that the reason you think that they would
56:05
suppress the Sarkozy story? Because it would, it would not
56:10
look favorably on Biden. I mean, your images are ridiculous. When
56:14
I heard this story. I got it on Al Jazeera. I was befuddled. I
56:19
didn't know this was going on.
56:21
Adam Curry: You're mistaking the news organizations in the United
56:24
States for news organizations? What what do you think? Of
56:27
course, they don't care. There's not been no longer
56:31
John C Dvorak: care. That's the point. Well, they care about
56:34
protecting Biden, or whoever tells them to do what or whoever
56:38
tells him whatever they're told to do,
56:40
Adam Curry: except for the Wall Street Journal. I will I will
56:42
read the headline. If Biden boughs out. How about Michelle
56:47
Obama?
56:50
John C Dvorak: This is we're bringing up old ideas. And I
56:55
want to play that this is a clip from Glenn Beck he had some of
56:59
you had mentioned on the network. You knew Rodriguez.
57:04
Felix Rodriguez. Yeah, is where he is. And I just want to play
57:08
this. It's the JFK story on back.
57:13
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, this, this is fantastic. Let me just give
57:15
you some background of Felix Rodriguez. So my uncle Don, who
57:21
was then his station chief in Vietnam, is very, very fond of
57:26
Felix Rodriguez. They talk every Christmas sometimes one or two
57:30
times throughout the year, they still chat. And the story then
57:33
Don would love to tell stories about how cool Felix was.
57:36
Because he would literally show up to the Christmas party,
57:39
dressed in his combat fatigues with hand grenades strapped to
57:42
his belt, just to have a quick little eggnog and then go back
57:45
to the front or whatever the heck he was doing. Which I think
57:48
is great. That'd be laughing at his muddy boots. But then he was
57:53
implicated in Iran Contra, to which I totally believe neither
57:58
of them were any part of and this is like some $10 million
58:01
payment that supposedly Rodriguez got. And it was an
58:05
interesting story. And it was more about the Bay of Pigs and
58:08
stuff on on Beckwith interesting guy and Rodriguez gotta be up
58:12
near the 90s Now, I think.
58:15
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's pretty old to him. But he did make a
58:17
little comment I want to reflect on I heard this. It was good.
58:21
Kennedy was different than his brother. He seemed
58:24
Unknown: like a decent guy. When we were
58:26
working the operation Central America was our team in Costa
58:28
Rica, Nicaragua, fruman rates against Cuba. In 6465. Bobby
58:33
Kennedy was word liaison between us and the CIA for that
58:36
operation. And when the President was assassinated, our
58:39
teammate went to see him in Washington, the first toward he
58:41
talking, said my brother had two big enemies, the mafia and Fidel
58:45
Castro. I believe it was the last one who assassinated what
58:52
John C Dvorak: so he says he thinks and he put this in so
58:55
somebody sent me this of course, singling you know, you think the
58:57
mob did it? I didn't. I don't know who did it. Who killed
59:02
Kennedy. But the mob is looks like the best bet as far as I'm
59:05
concerned, having heard all these different stories, and I
59:08
refer people to he says it was he thought was the Cubans? I
59:12
don't think so. And I'll tell you why. And I refer to a link
59:15
in the show notes to Spartacus educational XLink of the death
59:19
of witnesses connected to the assassination of John F.
59:22
Kennedy. And it includes a number of people who were who
59:27
this estimations didn't work and they went to the authority
59:31
saying that these mafia guys are trying to move the mob is trying
59:35
to kill me. And it's the mob who does clean up because you know,
59:40
if anyone wants to go watch the movie casino and watch the white
59:43
take a chance segment of that film where they start killing
59:48
guys left and right because there may be, I don't know, a
59:51
witness left over. The Cubans didn't have any, any connection
59:55
to do this. They didn't have any way of killing over 100 people
1:00:01
after the assassination to shut them up is totally a mob
1:00:05
operation. The CIA wouldn't do that either. They have, you
1:00:09
know, they have other ways without murdering, they have
1:00:12
scruples, dammit, this group was they like to screw him some
1:00:16
other ways was beside the point. I would take a look at this,
1:00:19
this, this posting and look it over. It's an I think Rodriguez
1:00:25
is wrong. I think maybe somebody I mean that he may be Miss
1:00:27
directing because, again, Michael francesi made the point
1:00:32
that he thinks the CIA is covering up the fact that they
1:00:34
couldn't stop the assassination. And that's makes sense. That
1:00:38
makes their big concern. That makes sense.
1:00:41
Adam Curry: But I still don't know why just just so they
1:00:44
wouldn't why take a chance? Was that the reason why, yeah, why?
1:00:48
Why do I kill all these people? Well, because what did they have
1:00:52
on the mob?
1:00:53
John C Dvorak: They had? No, these are people that like
1:00:55
Dorothy Kilgallen, who had done work on what on the Kennedy
1:00:58
assassination, assassination, maybe have figured out who did
1:01:02
it.
1:01:03
Adam Curry: Now, why would the mob do it? What they hated
1:01:08
John C Dvorak: Kennedy. In fact, if you listen to Rodriguez there
1:01:12
he says that two people two groups really hated Kennedy. The
1:01:15
mob was one of them. And the other one was the Cubans.
1:01:19
Adam Curry: Cubans. I understand I'm just wondering why the mob
1:01:22
what was it the
1:01:23
John C Dvorak: candidate? Well, if you look into it, I mean, I
1:01:25
from what I can remember, Kennedy, and not to mention the
1:01:29
fact that he put Bobby Kennedy in as his as his attorney
1:01:33
general who went after the mob. Okay, right. Kennedy,
1:01:38
apparently, or it seems that he made a deal that he reneged on
1:01:45
or he screwed up somehow or went the Kennedy was having sex with
1:01:49
one of the big boss's girlfriends.
1:01:52
Adam Curry: Oh, there you go. Thank you. You just answered the
1:01:54
question. Nuff said. And the Kennedy Joe Kennedy himself was
1:02:00
a mobster. He was the bootleg bootlegger, bootlegger.
1:02:08
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So as Kennedy, that's what a lot of
1:02:10
you know, Kennedy was the motto, it was an element of the mob
1:02:14
being the President of the United States,
1:02:15
Adam Curry: or bring it all around. The reason why we still
1:02:19
haven't seen the actual Kennedy information, even though it
1:02:23
legally needs to be released, is because people are afraid of the
1:02:26
mob killing them. No,
1:02:30
John C Dvorak: no, the reason is, because it's got information
1:02:34
in there that indicates that the CIA was aware of the
1:02:37
assassination plot and could do nothing to stop it. And it's an
1:02:42
it's an embarrassment to them. Okay. And if you follow this
1:02:48
timeline to this whole thing, that this is so disrupting this,
1:02:52
this, this assassination by the mob that it took, even though it
1:02:58
took about seven years, they they created the RICO statute,
1:03:01
which went into play into 70 and 1970. To take to just wipe the
1:03:06
mom out,
1:03:07
Adam Curry: right, right. But you never really wiped them out.
1:03:10
You never really know.
1:03:11
John C Dvorak: But it did a bit did a lot of damage.
1:03:14
Adam Curry: All right, well, that's all to everybody. It's
1:03:16
not as cool as brushing. No,
1:03:18
John C Dvorak: I'll get another note.
1:03:19
Adam Curry: The grassy knoll is a lot more fun. I mean, why are
1:03:21
you doing no idea why everybody's against why you're
1:03:24
harshing? My mellow, man, it's not cool. It's not cool. We want
1:03:27
to George Bush senior to be in charge of the operation. You
1:03:30
know, that's what we want. It's just it's a it's a downer, to
1:03:37
downer for conspiracy theorists, your downer man. Meanwhile, the
1:03:43
absent trial, Epstein trial continues against JPMorgan
1:03:47
Chase. And in particular, Jamie Dimon that Jamie Dimon
1:03:52
personally knew that Epstein was paying off. Victims apparently
1:03:59
victimized on the island. Now, the court will subpoena Larry
1:04:05
Page who they cannot find. They can't find him at any address.
1:04:11
Larry Page, Google co founder because he apparently has some
1:04:14
information. Deutsche Bank just went smart. They said oh, we're
1:04:18
just gonna pay $75 million to the victims of Jeffrey Epstein.
1:04:21
We don't want to be a part of this.
1:04:24
John C Dvorak: They're the best at that. Oh, yeah.
1:04:26
Adam Curry: Here's the money you have to keep us out of cannabis
1:04:29
out of the way that's gonna be if that ever really comes to
1:04:32
trial. It's gonna be fun to watch. But yeah,
1:04:34
John C Dvorak: never happened.
1:04:35
Adam Curry: I don't think so either.
1:04:36
John C Dvorak: I don't know. Larry Page disappeared.
1:04:38
Adam Curry: Well, they can't find it.
1:04:41
John C Dvorak: They also want to they can't give us a Pina. Yeah,
1:04:43
Adam Curry: they want to subpoena Elon too. And so now
1:04:46
the court has to find him. Well, yes, he's at CNBC all day long.
1:04:51
But if Did you see that what was that all about?
1:04:54
John C Dvorak: I mean, no, I gotta get a tape of this or I
1:04:56
can do one of my fabulous Elon Musk. Edit, suck.
1:05:00
Adam Curry: Well, I have a couple of short clips which are
1:05:02
short because the guy shot terrible talks like that it is
1:05:14
it is horrible. He's like he's not. I guess if you just talk
1:05:20
like this, I'm fairly difficult then you sound intelligent or
1:05:23
like you know what you're talking about. He's, he does
1:05:27
know some things. He knows what he's talking about. Budget,
1:05:31
that's
1:05:32
John C Dvorak: a talk, it's getting worse. It's getting
1:05:35
worse with some of this. I noticed this was the Ultra Rich.
1:05:38
Yeah, they're very, very slowly deteriorate in their ability to
1:05:44
communicate.
1:05:45
Adam Curry: Oh, interesting. What other examples I've had,
1:05:48
you
1:05:49
John C Dvorak: know, when I first noticed this was who was
1:05:50
with Ted Turner?
1:05:52
Adam Curry: When they'll be he actually has, he has dementia.
1:05:55
Now he's got he got well, before he
1:05:57
John C Dvorak: had dementia, maybe it was, it was fairly, you
1:06:00
know, he could he could talk they handle himself. And then
1:06:03
all of a sudden, he started going into this this bit where
1:06:06
every time he started to speak before he said anything, he
1:06:08
went, Ah, he made this, this loud, moaning sound, every
1:06:15
single is be at the beginning of every single sentence. And I'm
1:06:18
thinking, geez, this is weird. I started listening to these other
1:06:21
guys, and I must is a good example. You're wrong.
1:06:24
Adam Curry: I think you're wrong. This has nothing to do
1:06:26
with being rich. It has to do with tainted Adrenochrome was
1:06:29
clearly something else going on. Here's Elon,
1:06:33
John C Dvorak: is must be it.
1:06:34
Unknown: Let's talk a bit about your tweets. Because it comes up
1:06:38
a lot. Even today, it came up and you know, anticipation of
1:06:43
this. I mean, you do some tweets that seem to be or at least give
1:06:48
support to some who would call others conspiracy theories.
1:06:53
Well, yes, but I mean, honestly, you know, some of these
1:06:59
conspiracy theories have turned
1:07:02
out to be true. Which ones
1:07:05
will like the Hunter Biden laptop?
1:07:08
Adam Curry: That's true. Hunter Biden laptop. Oh, that's true.
1:07:11
Now let's talk about, you know, other conspiracy theories. Well,
1:07:14
we're coming
1:07:14
Unknown: up on an election. I mean, it's a ways away, but it's
1:07:17
going to all start. Yeah, President Trump is allowed back
1:07:22
on the platform. He hasn't actually come back. Right. But
1:07:24
one would imagine if and when he does, or there are others who
1:07:26
will say 2020 election was rigged. Is that something? I
1:07:31
assume that's not something you believe?
1:07:33
I? Well, I think the answer there The answer is is nuanced.
1:07:39
Like do I believe Biden one? Yes. I believe he won, you voted
1:07:45
for I did, actually.
1:07:46
Do you regret that?
1:07:48
I mean, man, I, I wish we could have just a normal human being
1:07:57
as President. That's what I want. I think, if we could, you
1:08:02
know, there's that old saying of like, we're better. We're better
1:08:04
off being run by by people picked at random from the
1:08:09
phonebook than the faculty of Harvard. Yeah. I don't know who
1:08:11
said that. But if someone were very wise, and I would say if we
1:08:17
could do that for the President, that would be
1:08:20
official. You're obviously you're not happy with by
1:08:23
we all just want a normal human being.
1:08:25
Whatever. Whatever. anymore. What normal me
1:08:29
know what I mean? Like, you know, just
1:08:32
you want somebody who's competent.
1:08:34
Adam Curry: I mean, this is the way he speaks. Like Sam Backman
1:08:37
fried. Another noon, geez, uh, people are nuts.
1:08:44
John C Dvorak: It has to be an explanation for it, because he
1:08:47
Adam Curry: doesn't know what he's talking about. Here. Listen
1:08:49
to this. Now this this one piss me off.
1:08:52
Unknown: So. So my opinion would be that there was some there was
1:08:55
some small amount of fraud, but it was not enough to change the
1:08:58
and
1:08:58
by the way, it might have been either way. I mean, you know,
1:09:00
yeah, there's probably a little bit of again, it's gonna be
1:09:02
you're gonna let people say that though on the on Twitter, and
1:09:05
then you're gonna hope that they're corrected and they will
1:09:06
be corrected. They will be
1:09:08
Oh, yeah. Harper said
1:09:08
Adam Curry: no. 100% Okay. 100% 100% Oh, yeah. 100% Geez,
1:09:18
it was really, this whole interview.
1:09:20
John C Dvorak: When I'm hearing that everyone's saying it. It's
1:09:22
a real priority. I identified
1:09:24
Adam Curry: it's been it's not 100% You know, be honest. 9998
1:09:29
What is the percentage of things 100%? No, correct. Even the
1:09:33
number of climate scientists who believe that this is all they
1:09:36
couldn't get 100 They couldn't get 100 they got 97 but yet
1:09:41
everything else is 100 100% 100%. When some we need
1:09:46
to
1:09:47
John C Dvorak: wonder how that got into the into the public
1:09:50
domain.
1:09:51
Adam Curry: Kara Swisher. 100 Prasanna sign. I was just one of
1:09:58
those things tick tock tick. probably everything is tick
1:10:01
tock. What do you think tick tock. Now let's stick with the
1:10:06
primetime takedowns of our politicians. There was a good
1:10:11
version of this, which I should have got should have gotten
1:10:14
retrieved this clip of what Biden said because they cut it
1:10:16
off in this ABC report,
1:10:18
Unknown: President Biden now calling white supremacy the most
1:10:21
dangerous terrorist threat the country. Here's ABCs Elizabeth
1:10:25
shozy. From 2011 to 2021, DHS says racially motivated
1:10:30
extremists accounted for the biggest share of domestic terror
1:10:34
incidents this weekend. President Biden with a stark
1:10:37
warning
1:10:38
as the most dangerous terrorist threat to our homeland is white
1:10:41
supremacy.
1:10:42
In his speech to graduates of Howard University, the president
1:10:45
decrying sinister forces seeking to undo progress toward racial
1:10:50
equality.
1:10:51
I thought when I graduated, we could defeat a
1:10:55
Adam Curry: he actually said in the piece I don't have he said,
1:10:57
you know, the most dangerous thing in our country is white
1:11:01
supremacy. And then he follows up by saying, and I'm not just
1:11:04
saying that because you're a black college. Okay, thank you,
1:11:07
bro.
1:11:08
Unknown: But it never goes away certainly hides under the rocks.
1:11:12
Silence is complicity.
1:11:16
And tonight amid protests calling for stronger gun safety
1:11:19
laws, the president renewing his call for an assault weapons ban.
1:11:23
In the USA Today on bed Biden pointing to the more than 650
1:11:27
mass shootings and 40,000 gun related deaths since the buffalo
1:11:31
massacre, telling lawmakers for God's sake, do something.
1:11:36
Adam Curry: This was my favorite. So it's now we have
1:11:38
like, six 650 mass shootings. It's just we're just we're just
1:11:43
shooting. It's a wild west here. If crazy people outside of
1:11:48
America think we are just shooting everything
1:11:51
John C Dvorak: to the store that haven't
1:11:53
Adam Curry: shot getting shot. That's exactly the same thing
1:11:56
where people in Fredericksburg think that the the two and a
1:11:59
half 1000 Haitians are going to be dumped off of the bus on Main
1:12:02
Street patients of all ages of all patients. And then and then
1:12:06
we get Obama listen to this whopper of a lie. You tell me?
1:12:11
What's the whopper of the lie in this. We
1:12:13
Unknown: are unique among advanced, developed nations and
1:12:21
tolerating on a routine basis. Gun violence in the form of
1:12:27
shootings, mass shootings, suicides in Australia. He had
1:12:34
one mass shooting 50 years ago and they said up, we're not
1:12:37
doing that anymore. That is normally how you would expect a
1:12:40
society respond when your children are at risk. Why is it
1:12:45
so hard for us? Well, I think somehow luck, and there are a
1:12:49
lot of historical reasons for this. Gun ownership in this
1:12:53
country became a ideological issue and a partisan issue in
1:13:00
ways that it shouldn't be what was
1:13:02
Adam Curry: the whopper of a lie in this statement that he made
1:13:04
here?
1:13:04
John C Dvorak: I thought the whole thing was a lie. Yeah, but
1:13:06
there
1:13:07
Adam Curry: was a whopper there's a real Whopper in there
1:13:09
that this
1:13:09
John C Dvorak: gun ownership is a partisan now. Only Republicans
1:13:13
know that it Nope. Here we go.
1:13:15
Unknown: on a routine basis. Gun violence in the form of
1:13:20
shootings, mass shootings, suicides in Australia. You had
1:13:27
one mass shooting 50 years ago and they said up?
1:13:30
Adam Curry: That was not 50 years ago. It was in my lifetime
1:13:33
douche. It was April 28 1996. Port Arthur was at Port Arthur.
1:13:42
Yes, it's only 27 years ago not 50 they had they've had they had
1:13:47
guns 50 years ago when Australia. Remember okay, why
1:13:53
does Why does He say 50?
1:13:56
John C Dvorak: I don't know the price on purpose do it? No, he
1:13:59
just doesn't know what he's talking about. No. Well, there's
1:14:01
that.
1:14:03
Adam Curry: But you know if if Michelle Stark
1:14:06
John C Dvorak: douche change the Second Amendment if you don't
1:14:09
like it, we had that. I mean, if everyone if you're all veterans
1:14:13
all in on this change the Second Amendment you gotta made
1:14:18
Adam Curry: maybe he comes from the Stargate, you know, so 50
1:14:21
years different for him. But without without a doubt, the top
1:14:26
the top politician we have who's a senator was asking a series of
1:14:33
questions. This is a one minute 32nd clip. This is on the
1:14:37
Banking Committee. And as we know, you know, there's a lot of
1:14:40
problems with how how JP Morgan Chase, basically made $2.8
1:14:47
billion, while the FDIC shelled out 15 billion to bail out.
1:14:55
Republic bank
1:14:56
John C Dvorak: to Republic bank, public or Silicon Valley boasts
1:15:00
Adam Curry: Oh no republic first Silicon Valley was a little
1:15:02
different though Silicon Valley was first and Republic. Right.
1:15:05
But But I think the the money was made the big money was made.
1:15:08
I mean, look, right now there's a trillion look, there's a
1:15:12
trillion dollars of unsecured deposits in JPMorgan Chase, they
1:15:16
are now too big to fail to whale to tail to do anything. So he's
1:15:20
sitting there beautiful. And here's one of your Senators
1:15:25
questioning the banking, the bankers about these actions that
1:15:29
are taking place. This is Senator Fetterman.
1:15:34
Unknown: Is it staggering? Is it a staggering response? A
1:15:37
response? And
1:15:38
Adam Curry: by the way, this is not edited this one all one go?
1:15:41
Is it staggering? Is
1:15:42
Unknown: it a staggering response responsibility that the
1:15:46
head of a bank could literally could literally crash our
1:15:49
economy? It's astonishing. That's like, if you have I mean,
1:15:54
like, and they also realize is that, that, that now they have
1:15:59
it's in the guaranteed a guaranteed way to be saved by an
1:16:04
American by no matter what number if I have, you know, so
1:16:08
it's, you know, isn't it appropriate that the those kinds
1:16:12
of this kind of control should be more stricter? To prevent
1:16:18
this kind of thing? Should we? Or should we just go on and
1:16:21
start bailing and sailing whoever bank regardless of how
1:16:24
how there's their conduct is?
1:16:35
Give me an example. The Republicans want to give a work
1:16:38
requirement for SNAP for a hungry family has to have these
1:16:45
this kind of penalties are they some kinds of word working?
1:16:49
Requires? Shouldn't you have a working requirement after each
1:16:52
sale your bank believes that your bank because they see we
1:16:55
were pretty preoccupied when then snap requirements for works
1:17:01
for hungry people, but not about protecting the tax the tax
1:17:06
papers, you know, that will fail no matter whatever does about
1:17:11
the bank to crash it?
1:17:20
Adam Curry: Literally no one knows what to say. They're all
1:17:22
sitting there looking at the Emperor completely naked. And no
1:17:27
one just stands up and says, Excuse me, this is not a
1:17:31
coherent question.
1:17:34
John C Dvorak: Is Is there a question mark within this
1:17:36
structure? No
1:17:37
Adam Curry: sailing and bailing? I mean, this is how we have
1:17:42
comes to such an interesting place in history. Where, where
1:17:48
we just accept this? unedited? That's exactly there was no
1:17:53
question. He was a question. But it wasn't a question that he
1:17:56
brought in SNAP and all kinds of other things. And then he just
1:18:00
give it back to the chair, chair take over. I know one. Banker
1:18:04
just look at each other like whatever. This is a problem.
1:18:11
John C Dvorak: I've got going to do this source a series. I got a
1:18:13
classic Ted Cruz one here, oh, boy. This is where it cruises
1:18:19
going on somebody and trying to get him to answer he's doing the
1:18:21
same thing. He
1:18:22
Adam Curry: lost all my respect crews. Respect for this guy
1:18:26
anymore. And well,
1:18:28
John C Dvorak: but this is the situation when you have the
1:18:30
Democrats running one thing and the Republicans, the Republicans
1:18:33
do the same thing when they're in charge. But this is the
1:18:35
Senate. So as the Democrats in here we go,
1:18:38
Unknown: No, we're not going to give you the billion dollars.
1:18:40
They said you have no authority. You're not the president. The
1:18:42
president said I said call him I said I'm telling you, you're not
1:18:46
getting the billion dollars
1:18:48
John C Dvorak: for a second. This is a question of a guy who
1:18:52
is going to be placed in some position. Who is who busted the
1:18:59
Biden's early on but then he refuses to say anything bad
1:19:03
about them. And it has to do with Joe Biden's intimidating
1:19:09
Ukraine back in the day in front of the Council on Foreign
1:19:12
Relations saying Right, right, right, right. We remember the
1:19:15
story and so he's gonna say, the guy says, Well, you know,
1:19:18
they've never there's never been any wrongdoing. And so proves
1:19:21
goes off on him with this story about Biden, the we're not gonna
1:19:25
give you the billion dollars. They said you have no authority.
1:19:27
You're not the president. The president said, I said call him
1:19:31
I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting the billion dollars.
1:19:33
I
1:19:34
Unknown: said, you're not getting the billion dollars. I'm
1:19:35
going to be leaving here. And I think it was about six hours. I
1:19:38
looked at them and said, I'm leaving here in six hours. If
1:19:41
the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money.
1:19:45
Well, son of a bitch. He got fired. Let me ask you something.
1:19:50
Do you think Joe Biden holding a billion dollars hostage to force
1:19:54
the Ukrainian government to fire the prosecutor that is
1:19:57
investigating the corrupt oligarchs. arquus paying his son
1:20:01
a million dollars a year did getting that prosecutor fired
1:20:05
benefit that oligarch.
1:20:07
Thank you Senator Cruz. Senator Van, are
1:20:09
you going to allow him to answer the question, Madam Chairman, I
1:20:11
am not going to allow him to answer the question. And why are
1:20:13
you covering the Vice President? Do you not want to answer that
1:20:16
question? He said that the Vice President
1:20:20
is unfortunate for you, Senator Cruz, to put in position that
1:20:25
are uncomfortable. The nominees to be our ambassador exists.
1:20:30
Adam Curry: The ambassador nominees
1:20:38
man Oh, man, I came
1:20:40
John C Dvorak: now. We're making them comfortable. This is not a
1:20:43
candy question. We want to hear.
1:20:46
Adam Curry: By the way we were wrong about the about the debt
1:20:49
ceiling No, not wrong, in general about how it will
1:20:51
probably get solved. But it's not a continuing resolution.
1:20:56
That continuing resolution is not not the is not the mechanism
1:21:01
that can stop this back and forth and shutting down the
1:21:05
economy. Most recently, and 21 I think it was 2014, maybe 2015.
1:21:14
We had the Bipartisan Budget Act before that, and 2011 the Budget
1:21:18
Control Act, and then you can this is how they get little bits
1:21:22
and pieces in or the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act. That
1:21:26
was 2008. That was a good one. There's all kinds of stuff that
1:21:31
can be done, but it's not a continuing resolution. People
1:21:33
did want to point that out and I want to make sure everyone hears
1:21:36
that we admit when we're wrong. We'll see. Now this is not a
1:21:41
continuing resolution is a different mechanism.
1:21:44
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, it's going to be the point real the
1:21:49
long term point is we're not going into default.
1:21:52
Adam Curry: Oh man, I sure hope so. It'd be so much fun.
1:21:56
John C Dvorak: Probably wouldn't be going to show what is it
1:21:58
Adam Curry: when you shut down the government that's not the
1:21:59
same as a default right
1:22:00
John C Dvorak: the shutdown we don't know the government that's
1:22:03
different right? That's
1:22:04
Adam Curry: when we don't have a car that's when you have the
1:22:06
continuing resolution is on the government shutdown. But this is
1:22:10
the day I think it's I think it's really fun to watch and
1:22:14
help you Oh, well, I want to get my paycheck.
1:22:17
John C Dvorak: Yeah, definitely be something to experience but
1:22:20
you wouldn't be good for the show.
1:22:22
Adam Curry: No, none of it's good for the show ever. But this
1:22:26
is good for the show. I finally got a clip on the Chevron
1:22:29
deference.
1:22:32
John C Dvorak: No, okay. Good. Yeah, we need an update on that
1:22:35
because
1:22:35
Adam Curry: this kind of explains why are they going
1:22:38
after Clarence Thomas and ultimately after the you know,
1:22:43
the Supreme Court is a legitimate is no good. We gotta
1:22:46
get rid of me just too many. Conservatives on the good is no
1:22:51
good. So CBS actually did a little story on the Chevron
1:22:56
deference what it means and how it relates to well, then, of
1:23:00
course, they would never explicitly say it but how it
1:23:02
relates to this takedown of Supreme Court justices
1:23:07
Unknown: Supreme Court has announced it will take up a case
1:23:10
next term that could potentially strip federal agencies of some
1:23:13
of their powers. The case Loper enterprises vs. rimando seeks to
1:23:18
overturn a nearly 40 year old legal precedent known as Chevron
1:23:22
deference. It directs courts to defer to federal agencies when
1:23:26
interpreting unclear laws. The Chevron deference has been
1:23:30
targeted by conservatives and they believe it gives too much
1:23:32
power to agencies and the executive branch. For more on
1:23:36
this, let's bring in Jeff Braven. He's correspondent for
1:23:38
The Wall Street Journal, I should say, Jess, there's a two
1:23:41
step that was established, as I understand it, in by the chevron
1:23:45
case, that's at the center of this back in 1984. I think what
1:23:50
is that two step process?
1:23:52
Well, it's very simple. It seems like almost almost too obvious.
1:23:56
The the opinion a unanimous opinion by Justice John Paul
1:23:59
Stevens says first, you see if this question has been quite
1:24:03
specifically answered by the statute, is it completely clear
1:24:08
what Congress wants to happen? If the answer is yes, well, then
1:24:12
courts have to enforce that they don't have any discretion, and
1:24:15
the agency has to obey it as well. But what if the statute is
1:24:19
ambiguous? And of course, a lot of laws you said before is a bit
1:24:23
ambiguous if it is ambiguous. This decision said the way
1:24:27
courts would behave as they should defer to a plausible
1:24:30
interpretation by the agency. So that's that's the idea. The
1:24:34
agency is the expert in this area, Congress has assigned it
1:24:37
at the job of carrying out its function. So the court should
1:24:40
defer unless they're making a very implausible application of
1:24:44
the law.
1:24:45
Adam Curry: So if this Chevron deference were overturned, then
1:24:49
a lot more cases for the agencies would go to the courts,
1:24:54
federal courts, and they would really have to scrutinize what
1:24:58
was being said and it could eat And I mean, the real decision
1:25:02
would have to be made. And I think that probably a lot of
1:25:06
these laws are very ambiguous as written because first of all,
1:25:10
Congress people stupid, they don't know everything. And but,
1:25:14
yes,
1:25:15
John C Dvorak: well, first of all, most of these laws that
1:25:17
they're discussing, are not Congress writing anything. These
1:25:21
are administrative laws. Well, these are the laws written by
1:25:25
the boneheads that run these agencies and they they're not
1:25:28
congressmen, they're not lawyers, and they throw these
1:25:30
laws together. And those are the ambiguous laws they're talking
1:25:33
about.
1:25:34
Adam Curry: No, they're not because you'll hear it in this
1:25:36
next clip. They're talking about laws that were made in Congress,
1:25:40
but then the agencies interpret that into rules. And this next
1:25:46
clip, okay, is right is right up your alley. It's about to get
1:25:48
near.
1:25:49
John C Dvorak: Yes, but the initial law that's in Congress
1:25:52
is is ambiguous, different, differing, that's where
1:25:56
deference Yes, deferring to the agency, we're writing a law that
1:26:00
gives you the power to do this, that and the other. So they give
1:26:04
the EPA all kinds of power, and then they cut them loose, and
1:26:07
they don't do shit after that.
1:26:09
Adam Curry: Exactly. So that's the ambiguity. And this next
1:26:11
shorter clip is about the EPA, which you know something about
1:26:14
so you might be able to comment,
1:26:15
Unknown: why are people paying so much attention to this issue,
1:26:19
given the current makeup of the court? Well,
1:26:22
this is one of the many other shoes to drop after we saw the
1:26:25
court overturn Roe vs. Wade. That obviously was number one on
1:26:30
the conservative agenda. But there are many, many other
1:26:33
errors that conservative legal thinkers believe the Supreme
1:26:37
Court has made over the past decades. And this turned out to
1:26:42
be one of them. Now, at the time, it actually was a victory
1:26:44
for conservatives. There were some environmentalists who
1:26:46
challenged a rule by the Reagan era EPA led by Justice Gorsuch,
1:26:52
his mother at the time and Gorsuch Burford. And the
1:26:56
environmentalists said the agency had not followed the law
1:27:00
properly. The Supreme Court said agency gets discretion if the
1:27:03
law is ambiguous. But more recently, it's been an industry
1:27:07
that has been unhappy with the way that agencies are exercising
1:27:11
their power, especially the EPA. And they're the ones who want to
1:27:14
basically turn this power over to federal courts where they
1:27:17
think they'll have a more sympathetic here than with
1:27:19
regulators who might have devoted their lives to say
1:27:22
pollution control and they believe are overstepping their
1:27:25
power to achieve those ends.
1:27:28
Adam Curry: I didn't know that. Gosh, it's his mom ran the EPA
1:27:32
John C Dvorak: says bunch of this is a whole system is rife.
1:27:36
With nepotism, it's
1:27:37
Unknown: crazy.
1:27:39
Adam Curry: And people don't know this. This is not taught in
1:27:41
civics, you will have no idea how this works. You remember,
1:27:45
remember that I'm a bill. I'm a bill, I go go through stuff. And
1:27:49
then I become law from a bill and then we send it off to the
1:27:52
agencies and they do whatever they want.
1:27:55
John C Dvorak: Like the IRS. This is the administrative state
1:27:57
that we live in, they can't do anything about it is impossible.
1:28:01
The whole world or our entire government is run as an
1:28:06
administrative state is not run the way we think it's run. And
1:28:10
that administrative state is the only reason it works. It there's
1:28:14
nothing they can do. They can overturn this stuff. They can't
1:28:18
shake. They can't do what we like to think which is well the
1:28:22
legislators supposed to make the law, not some bureaucrat. No,
1:28:27
that's not the way it works. It's not the way it's going to
1:28:29
work they're not going to let it go to that it's not going to
1:28:32
happen. I think we're all living in a dream world.
1:28:34
Adam Curry: And on that happy note I'd like to thank you for
1:28:36
your courage in the morning to you the man who put the sea in
1:28:39
the Chevron deference which ain't gonna happen ladies and
1:28:42
gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end Mr. John
1:28:50
John C Dvorak: Mooney you in the morning you Mr. Adam curry in
1:28:52
the morning your ships in the sea and the ships in the sea
1:28:55
their feet near the subs in the water the dames knights out
1:28:58
there
1:28:58
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all saying
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Adam Curry: assigned male at death Okay, that's interesting.
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Anyway, the album art which was I think a big surprise went to
1:32:13
the award went to comic strip blogger who did a very sweet
1:32:17
little Mother's Day cartoon which you thought would be aI
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1:32:26
is actually common
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John C Dvorak: style I've seen his style for years this isn't
1:32:30
it?
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Adam Curry: I know he didn't say it was I mean he would be the
1:32:34
first to say it wasn't well we'll get we'll get an honest
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answer from him. I think we can we get an honest answer from it
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we get honest answer from him
1:32:43
John C Dvorak: that you know what the hands look at the hands
1:32:45
you got too many fingers typical typical AI because the AI can't
1:32:50
figure out how long humans have five fingers Oh
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Adam Curry: you're right six You're right 1234 You may be
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right huh well was cute anyway, it was a bunch of very pretty
1:33:03
picture. Yeah, it was nice and we had what else do we have to
1:33:07
choose from? We had
1:33:08
John C Dvorak: a lot of a lot of flowers the one was one that we
1:33:13
do our favorite one literally was the Mother's Day by tantan
1:33:16
deal with the goat head but a dead goat had in in a bunch of
1:33:21
with a bunch of flowers is not probably not the best message to
1:33:24
be sending
1:33:25
Adam Curry: but we don't we don't the goat had its eyes open
1:33:28
so we don't know if the goat was dead it
1:33:29
John C Dvorak: doesn't mean a dead goat died open eyes even
1:33:32
creepier
1:33:34
Adam Curry: It's such a pretty piece and we really we were
1:33:37
ready to pull the trigger on it and we just it's too too
1:33:39
gruesome
1:33:41
John C Dvorak: just it was all it was missing was a pool of
1:33:44
blood
1:33:45
Adam Curry: and then we had to Sir dude named Parker prolly who
1:33:48
had a like a daisy with mom with the it looked like a butthole
1:33:52
and there's something wrong with that. Parker Polly yeah the one
1:33:57
with a daisy flower but
1:33:58
John C Dvorak: hold on Oh
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Adam Curry: for mom was yeah it was it was wrong or something
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wrong with the center of the flower and we had no there was
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one you liked with the one now the one you liked with some baby
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too small probably your response to everything you don't like
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remember which one I don't want I really liked was to go to head
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overruled I was ready for goat I was ready for the
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John C Dvorak: guy who liked Have you liked him comic strip
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Adam Curry: pacified me you we Canvas for moms. Let's do
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something nice for moms and moms. Okay, okay.
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John C Dvorak: guy wasn't even in the conversation. All right.
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Well, congratulations,
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John C Dvorak: I submitted my fake Vax card to attend to
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accepted as the truth today.
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Adam Curry: Yes, indeed.
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John C Dvorak: Who can tell you from please Knight
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call my buddy Cory out as a douchebag I would like to
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company as well as shape shifting Jews and resist we must
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John C Dvorak: shape shifting jobs,
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John C Dvorak: is an interesting one it coming up this Michel.
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we'll
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John C Dvorak: get okay.
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Adam Curry: That's how we That's how we roll. Thank
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John C Dvorak: you to Adam and John for speaking the truth I
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John C Dvorak: It takes forever but you're getting there.
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have some jobs karma to continue creating jobs for great dudes
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John C Dvorak: here's another note that's too long. This was
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I gotta I gotta walk Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers
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in if any of you homeschool is out there listening and form
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your kiddos that they make a very nice living going into the
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trade work of some sort as most skilled tradesmen. I know our
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seven year older and are retiring there are a handful of
1:42:04
guys like my dad used to always say this. I don't understand
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these kids go out and become a mechanic.
1:42:10
Adam Curry: Do you know what the top job is that people are
1:42:13
schooling for right now in the Netherlands. But Carpenter,
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carpenter everyone because carpenters are making like half
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a million.
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John C Dvorak: There are a handful of guys like me around
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they're looking down on the barrel at 60 or 650 or 60 and
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need an exit strategy. They just need to retire someone to hand
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off our businesses and clientele so they can be trusted to
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perform good work. I hope at least one of my human resources
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takes over for me. Anyway, these Yes, people should learn how to
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trade it's not about welding. Isn't this a winner building
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Adam Curry: as a big winner?
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John C Dvorak: I can well yeah, super winner. Yeah. Anyways, I
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mean, I can't read it.
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Adam Curry: But I didn't notice that we have that elsewhere. But
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you know this to become a what does he say? He was he has a say
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he was skilled tradesmen? So but if you want to be a carpenter or
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a welder, I mean can't you get into people's and he needs us to
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retire he needs to hit he needs to keep a piece of the action
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and hand it over to some an apprentice apprenticeship.
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That's what it used to be called. Remember those? Yeah,
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they
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John C Dvorak: still do those but it's rare.
1:43:28
Adam Curry: And how long would it take to become a good
1:43:29
carpenter? Five years couple a couple of years I
1:43:32
John C Dvorak: don't think it take that long couple of years.
1:43:35
Adam Curry: And I'm think welding I mean, welding you can
1:43:36
learn in a couple years to be really good at it.
1:43:39
John C Dvorak: Well, you can learn it pretty quickly, but
1:43:40
getting good at it as Rob, because I can weld.
1:43:44
Adam Curry: I can. I can weld too. Yeah. Can you Healy arc?
1:43:48
Yes. That's how I was taught with the arcing. And then along
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came the co2 stuff that was easy. Like, anyone could do
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that. But you know, you put that electrode in and that's the cool
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stuff. All right. Here's your jingles man. People are
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Unknown: innocent until well alleged to be involved in some
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type of criminal activity.
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Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. For jobs.
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Adam Curry: All right, then we have scroll down here. Oops.
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Interesting.
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John C Dvorak: Another log, no Kelly Conway. This donation
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longest islands. I'd like a dirty martini and some expensive
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blue cheese at the round table. We got that set up for you,
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Adam, thank you for the excellent break down the last
1:44:37
few shows of how big pharma really seems to be the root
1:44:40
cause of many of the issues happening in our country between
1:44:44
mass shootings, trans children, loneliness, terrible mental and
1:44:47
physical health, mainstream media control by pharma
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advertising and so much more. I'm in the middle of reading RFK
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is the real Anthony Fauci book and wow, let me tell you what's
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worth the read. Wow. I have read it. The amount of bullcrap this
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man has gotten away with, along with all the government agencies
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associated in Big Pharma seems to relate to Nazi Germany crap.
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I highly recommend this book to all your listeners people do not
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forget what they did and lied to us during the so called COVID 19
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pandemic, these people should be held accountable to the fullest
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extent of the law, which we know they won't be she says also a
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few shows ago you mentioned the mobster who connected the JFK
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assassination to the mob. Not sure if you saw the Irishman
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movie by Martin Scorsese. In that film, he makes that
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connection. Well, that's interesting, John, that, you
1:45:33
know, I
1:45:34
John C Dvorak: really I love Scorsese films. Yeah, I couldn't
1:45:38
watch that movie. It was dreadful. Really? Well, they for
1:45:42
one thing they kept a diary on aging De Niro. watchable
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Adam Curry: that was kind of weird that movie that way. Well,
1:45:52
that was that's probably what threw you off. scene.
1:45:55
John C Dvorak: The whole thing was bad at poorly paced. It was
1:45:58
too long. So Okay.
1:46:01
Adam Curry: Well, thank you very much, Kelly. And we will see you
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at the roundtable later on. Fo shizzle with a dry dirty martini
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and expensive blue cheese but not the blue cheese in the
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Unknown: is this we go out for people in the mouth
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Adam Curry: Bye. So DeSantis pretty much did everything that
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I think a president should do. I have a real hard time with this
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guy. You know, he's got a big Wall Street money behind him.
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Don't trust him. But what he did in Florida, probably a spoke to
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him. Well, he kind of comes from where he wasn't he a Jag in the
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in Guantanamo.
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John C Dvorak: He was a lawyer. He was in Guantanamo. Gitmo,
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Gitmo, he
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Adam Curry: was a lawyer. Yeah, probably a spook. But the the
1:52:21
bill that he signed, and I'll let him ramble for his two
1:52:24
minutes here is pretty much everything that we've been
1:52:27
talking about when it comes to the trans Maoist conversion of
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the United States,
1:52:32
Unknown: you have a movement amongst I would say rogue
1:52:35
elements of the medical establishment, to do things that
1:52:39
is basically the mutilation of minors. I mean, they're trying
1:52:42
to do sex change operations on minors, giving them things like
1:52:47
puberty blockers and doing things that are irreversible to
1:52:51
them. And that is not based on science. That is not based on
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evidence. In fact, you have had countries that have tried to do
1:53:00
this in Europe, and they recognize this was very harmful.
1:53:03
And so now they don't
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Adam Curry: do it, please, this is exactly what we've been
1:53:06
saying this phenomenon is like Sweden,
1:53:09
John C Dvorak: staff is listening to us and I probably
1:53:11
Unknown: yet here in the United States, you have a very, I would
1:53:16
say ideologically charged, small group of folks within medicine
1:53:21
that are really pushing these types of procedures on minors.
1:53:26
We think that that is wrong. In Florida last year, we took
1:53:29
action so that no physician that does those procedures are going
1:53:34
to be able to keep their medical license. So that's gone if you
1:53:37
do this, which is great.
1:53:42
Adam Curry: Which is just a pause for a second. This puts a
1:53:45
lot of doctors between a rock and a hard place. On the one
1:53:48
hand, you have the American Psychology Association and the
1:53:50
American pediatrics Association, the American Association of
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Pediatrics has all these different lobbying groups and
1:53:57
political groups really, but they write their own laws, they
1:54:00
write the the procedures, they have licensed people their
1:54:05
responsibility through collective insurance for these
1:54:09
doctors and therapists mainly. Now, you can't go left you can't
1:54:14
go right. You know, so something's got to give in the
1:54:18
medical community.
1:54:22
Unknown: But when we do do the SBU to do this, we'll permanent
1:54:28
outlaw the mutilation of minors. It will outlaw the surgical
1:54:33
procedures and experimental puberty blockers for minors. It
1:54:37
will also require any adults receiving the surgeries to be
1:54:41
informed about the irreversible nature and about the dangers of
1:54:46
the procedures. It will give Florida courts temporary
1:54:50
jurisdiction to intervene and halt procedures for out of state
1:54:53
children. You have actually some states in this country that want
1:54:59
to be a haven And for these types of procedures, and even
1:55:03
welcome minors without their parents consent, and to some of
1:55:07
their jurisdiction, we're obviously doing the opposite
1:55:10
here. And I think this is this provision is important. This is
1:55:14
going to create a way to recover damages for injury or death
1:55:18
resulting from mutilating surgeries or these experimental
1:55:21
puberty blockers that are given to a minor. Because what
1:55:24
happens, they go through this, then they get older, and this is
1:55:27
a huge problem. They should be able to sue the physician who
1:55:32
hurt them, and they're now going to be able to with this law,
1:55:35
Adam Curry: that's pretty far reaching.
1:55:39
John C Dvorak: Like the suing part. Yeah, he should have
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changed the word to shoot.
1:55:44
Adam Curry: Wow, man, I've gotten I got so many boots on
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the ground about the testosterone that you were
1:55:49
talking about the roid rage. One of one of our producers listen
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to this. She writes in she had she had to experience of men
1:55:56
with severe testosterone fueled mental health issues. And the
1:56:01
second experience thing is one I'll share. Her ex fiance he was
1:56:05
48 years old bloodwork showed less than 300 micrograms per
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deciliter total of tea guests is low. So we started TRT injection
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Istat low while he started a TRT injections of mix of short and
1:56:21
long acting tea kind of like taking Adderall and Vyvanse. I
1:56:25
didn't think much about it, but over the following three months,
1:56:28
he became erratic and extremely emotional. I was confused by his
1:56:31
change in personality when it gets bad and start to seriously
1:56:35
consider breaking up with him. His first three months follow a
1:56:38
blood work show total tea was greater than 2400 Ug DL, I guess
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1200 is the max and free tea was greater than 400. He jokingly
1:56:52
said the doctor was surprised he hadn't killed his fiancee. His
1:56:57
physician drastically lowered the dose the dose but he had one
1:57:00
last mega dose injected the day he went to get his lab results.
1:57:03
Memories of my first friend came flooding back I looked up the
1:57:06
dose response time for the blender was using eight days. So
1:57:10
what happened is due to my love for him, I decided to wait it
1:57:14
out exactly eight days later though he snapped it was
1:57:16
horrifying to witness the love of my life become totally
1:57:19
psychotic. He was wondering 240 pounds of muscle knocked me
1:57:23
unconscious. I woke up being straddled and him whispering in
1:57:27
my air this in my ear. This is what it feels like to die. I
1:57:30
escaped by gouging his eyes with my fingers and fleeing in my car
1:57:34
as he chased me holy crap this testosterone is not to be taken
1:57:40
lightly people Oh,
1:57:41
John C Dvorak: I did this borderline dangerous. The it's
1:57:46
very deathbed the shots or the you know, there's other ways
1:57:50
just rub on stuff the can't remember than Androgel Yes, it's
1:57:56
safer. It's too dangerous for me to imagine. That's a men who are
1:58:01
used to Metastar now take girls now take a girl and give her
1:58:05
this stuff and see how far you get. You're gonna end up with
1:58:07
somebody, you know, walking around with a rifle shooting
1:58:11
poor little innocent nine year olds. Yeah, exactly what
1:58:15
happened.
1:58:16
Adam Curry: Finland is once again reporting they're taking
1:58:18
another look at youth gender medicine. Not a good idea.
1:58:22
They're looking at longer term studies now which have not been
1:58:24
done here. But all that comes down to a couple of things that
1:58:28
are not addressed by Governor DeSantis social media, the
1:58:32
pressures of social media and an out I'll pull into this the
1:58:36
swimsuit Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition, where we have
1:58:43
Martha Stewart now as an 81 year old on the cover of this four
1:58:46
covers. The odd one of the covers of the Sports Illustrated
1:58:50
Swimsuit Swimsuit Issue. disgustingly photoshopped Make
1:58:54
no mistake don't say oh, if I looked like her No, no, she
1:58:59
doesn't look like that. I know her I've been up close. And the
1:59:03
donor mentioned the bo in the elevator Ah, but they Photoshop
1:59:09
everything. There is no truth in anything. You see, he could have
1:59:13
John C Dvorak: done a better job.
1:59:14
Adam Curry: I don't think this is the best they could do. And
1:59:17
then they have another trans, a trans woman on the on one of the
1:59:20
covers, and this is going to stop Americans are starting to
1:59:26
figure it out. Have you seen that now target is is the next
1:59:30
literal target.
1:59:31
John C Dvorak: I have complained about target and these and the
1:59:34
way they have gone for well nuts not on this show as much as DH
1:59:39
employed by been complaining about them losing it. They have
1:59:43
they're promoting fat women and trans women Derrick dirt
1:59:48
completely lost the plot. They used to it used to be a store
1:59:53
that had stuff that was well designed, it was pretty they had
1:59:57
professional bigshot designers come in and they were We used to
2:00:00
promote it that way. Now it's just a, it's just it's
2:00:03
borderline to $1. Store.
2:00:07
Adam Curry: Yeah, with all the rainbow stuff. Now we're seeing
2:00:09
parents go in and just say, Well, is there a straight
2:00:12
section for my children that that look is? Can I just get
2:00:17
something and doesn't have weird stuff and Adidas or as we say in
2:00:20
the old country, Adidas, pride 2023, women's swimsuits. These
2:00:27
are being modeled by men. With package it's a little it's a
2:00:33
it's a women's swimsuit. And they have men modeling it. And I
2:00:37
mean, what's this?
2:00:38
John C Dvorak: What's wrong? This is what happens when you
2:00:40
get these people, certain people in the executive level and they
2:00:44
get in there, you can't get them out and they start making these
2:00:46
decisions somehow. I don't know how it's accepted by everyone. I
2:00:50
guess they get shamed into it. But they have bad people in
2:00:54
management and these companies are all going to fail.
2:00:57
Adam Curry: Yes, Corps has now. Sophia Colucci, Chief Marketing
2:01:02
Officer for Molson Coors beverage. I don't know if you've
2:01:05
seen this. It was it actually was made in March. But
2:01:08
apparently they decided to let it go. They're now criticizing
2:01:12
their own brand for having used women in bathing. So
2:01:15
John C Dvorak: that was no, that was Miller. Like, that's Miller
2:01:17
Lite.
2:01:18
Adam Curry: Yeah. But that's yeah. But that's Miller Lite is
2:01:21
a multi branch. It's funny.
2:01:23
John C Dvorak: I have a thought on this. But so look, I don't
2:01:26
believe that I believe this is a real ad that they did back in
2:01:30
the day, like, March before March. I think it was InBev that
2:01:35
Riri introduced.
2:01:38
Adam Curry: Oh, so now they're eating each other? That's cool.
2:01:40
I like that.
2:01:41
John C Dvorak: Because I don't see that would be idiotic, for
2:01:44
any executive to make the decision to do that to bring
2:01:48
that ad back out. Because it was already a failure. And it just
2:01:51
was swept under the rug. Nobody said anything about it. And now
2:01:54
all of a sudden it reappears. Yeah,
2:01:57
Adam Curry: good point. Good point. Yep. I'm with you. Then
2:02:01
we have Texas Democrat. Sean Terry. She's a Democrat from
2:02:08
Houston. And I'm going to play this soundbite in Texas, they
2:02:15
passed the bill that forbids any type of medical transition, I'm
2:02:21
sorry, gender affirming care for minors, which is a very
2:02:26
reasonable, and there's lots of things if all right, I'm gonna
2:02:32
get her that I want you to hear she bet she's going to be
2:02:35
censured by her own party, I want you to hear because all
2:02:38
political at the end of the day, this is one side saying
2:02:42
Democrats are are killing children and the other side
2:02:46
saying Republicans are anti trans and transphobes forget all
2:02:51
of the politics. And what she says here, very, very nervous, I
2:02:57
think was spot on very nervous when she stood up and spoke in
2:03:00
in the senate
2:03:01
Unknown: members. It is out of respect, caring, in friendship.
2:03:07
For every member of this body that I would like to share my
2:03:10
position on this very complex issue. I'm coming from a place
2:03:14
of love and compassion, and can only hope and pray that it is
2:03:20
received in that same spirit. While we can have debates on the
2:03:24
best policy approach, I do not believe that any of us in this
2:03:28
body actually wants to cause harm to children who are
2:03:33
suffering from depression, dysphoria, or any other mental
2:03:39
health issues. Over the past two years, I have extensively
2:03:44
researched this issue and painstakingly reviewed the
2:03:48
scientific data in this country and around the globe. As a woman
2:03:52
of color, I know what it's like to feel unseen, unheard and
2:04:00
devalued. I have recently been treated that way, by some in
2:04:07
this process in coming to this vote. After listening to the
2:04:12
debate today, I absolutely believe we should raise the age
2:04:17
to 18 for children to receive GnRH analogs, cross sex hormones
2:04:24
and to undergo potential irreversible body altering
2:04:27
surgeries. Members in this nation. Most all adults have
2:04:32
been united in at least one basic premise that children
2:04:37
deserve protections, special protections and exceptional
2:04:41
treatment under the law.
2:04:42
Adam Curry: Thank you very much. Thank you Representative from
2:04:46
Houston. Very good. But maybe it's time that somewhat and it's
2:04:51
going to be very difficult because as we know, we're the
2:04:53
only country in America that won't allow that allows
2:04:56
pharmaceutical advertisements direct to consumer, America UK
2:05:00
and New Zealand I guess. But the report is now out that here it
2:05:06
is us depression rates reach all time highs. Percentage of US
2:05:12
adults is from Gallup, who have reported having been diagnosed
2:05:15
with depression at some point in their lifetime has reached
2:05:17
29% 10% higher than 2015. At what point do we call out the
2:05:24
medical community and say it's not working? It's just not
2:05:28
working. And then you take with that the report in The Wall
2:05:33
Street Journal, young Americans are dying at alarming rates.
2:05:38
Children teens suicide all kinds of horrible things. The pharma
2:05:43
game is not working. It's not and that I keep reading these
2:05:50
reports that that prescription medicines are the shortage of
2:05:55
everything. Have you heard Have you heard of this? I don't even
2:05:57
know if that's true.
2:05:58
John C Dvorak: It feels hard to yes comes and goes. I wonder if
2:06:01
it's true myself. Nor is it just to get people
2:06:03
Adam Curry: on more stuff. But we really need to reevaluate
2:06:07
we're doing and social media is a big problem. And luckily we're
2:06:11
seeing some of the Zoomers just giving up on it. But now I think
2:06:14
the older older people older adults are just completely still
2:06:19
all sucked into the system. Now I love my light phone. John, I
2:06:23
know you scoff at it. I know Ben, you don't need one because
2:06:26
you put your your smartphone in the desk. I know. You know, you
2:06:29
John C Dvorak: don't run a whole podcast or downstairs.
2:06:31
Adam Curry: I run a podcasting empire. You know, there's a lot
2:06:34
to do here. But I love it. I love it. I'm weaning myself off.
2:06:40
It's pretty good. You know, now that now that I feel like I can
2:06:43
do I have a right tool for it. I have basically no internet when
2:06:46
I'm going out. Just text and phone Perfect. Perfect for me.
2:06:51
And all the schools that we see all these children are put into
2:06:54
schools that have no screens. What do we have no depression,
2:06:58
no suicide, and also strangely, very few trans.
2:07:05
John C Dvorak: So you think there's a connection?
2:07:10
Adam Curry: There's our opening. Thank you. That's exactly what I
2:07:13
was looking for.
2:07:14
John C Dvorak: So let's talk about climate as a report came
2:07:17
out.
2:07:18
Adam Curry: Yes. Oh, yeah. Yes, this was very funny.
2:07:22
John C Dvorak: So I'm not even going to go to Americans. Let's
2:07:25
start with LG Zerah. And I got a three and a three parter with a
2:07:30
with a sub clip. Climate Oh no. AJ. Well, we
2:07:36
Unknown: begin with the state of our climate. And you rip away
2:07:40
Stop.
2:07:41
John C Dvorak: This is the top of the news, by the way. Right?
2:07:45
And it's not even news, though. report came out, stop,
2:07:48
everything stopped. The presses are starving in Ethiopia.
2:07:51
There's riots going on. They're killing each other in Sudan. No,
2:07:55
stop. Let's start with this. I love the
2:07:57
Adam Curry: starving and Ethiopia. What century are you
2:08:00
for?
2:08:01
John C Dvorak: Well, we're always striving for my bed. When
2:08:04
we
2:08:04
Unknown: begin with the state of our climate. A new report says
2:08:08
global temperatures will continue to climb into uncharted
2:08:11
territory. And then it is right now levels of heat around the
2:08:14
world are way beyond normal. But it's still thought the worst may
2:08:18
be yet to come. It's down to the double whammy of global warming,
2:08:21
and a weather phenomenon called El Nino. Here's our environment.
2:08:26
This look at a map of the world and pretty much everywhere this
2:08:28
year, we've seen searing unseasonable heat in Europe, in
2:08:32
Asia and South America and in the United States record
2:08:35
temperatures fueled by climate change. And it's not about to
2:08:39
stop report from the World Meteorological Organization says
2:08:42
it's almost certain we're going to see the hottest year on
2:08:44
record between now. And 2027. Yeah. Wait
2:08:49
Adam Curry: a minute, the world. It's the WMO we have a new one.
2:08:52
Hey, yeah,
2:08:53
John C Dvorak: don't we have the hottest year on record? Every
2:08:57
year after Democracy Now every year, year after year after year
2:09:03
Britain now. Now it's going to be we're going to soon see it.
2:09:09
We have already seen it.
2:09:11
Adam Curry: How do you read it says hottest year on record
2:09:13
ever, ever. It's happening
2:09:16
Unknown: part two, and 2027 and that we will breach the 1.5
2:09:21
degrees Celsius threshold of pre industrial levels set by the
2:09:25
Paris Agreement with increasing frequency. So what's going on?
2:09:29
Are human induced global warming is about to be turbocharged by a
2:09:33
natural charge. El Nino happens every few years and sees winds
2:09:38
and ocean currents specific reverse direction significantly
2:09:42
altering global weather patterns, bringing hotter, drier
2:09:46
weather or even drought to places like Australia, Indonesia
2:09:50
and parts of South Asia. A day this week the Department of
2:09:53
Health and the Philippines warned its health care
2:09:55
facilities to be ready for the extreme effects of El Nino
2:09:58
affecting power and water. As supplies and potentially
2:10:01
spreading disease,
2:10:03
Adam Curry: they have always connected El Nino to death and
2:10:06
destruction from climate change. They always do that we've had El
2:10:09
Nino for centuries.
2:10:10
John C Dvorak: Well, they mentioned that it comes every
2:10:12
two years so Yeah, hello. Good thing how is it new now this is
2:10:17
a different visited El Nino especially well, I mean, it
2:10:21
doesn't make sense.
2:10:23
Adam Curry: El Nino El Nino was cheese.
2:10:26
John C Dvorak: Make sense? Now here's part three, there's a
2:10:30
little there's I think there's the one where the woman comes on
2:10:33
begging for money from some area. Oh, and she little truth
2:10:37
comes out. Hi, Jamila.
2:10:39
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, which one? I do I do the truth one
2:10:41
here. Now,
2:10:42
John C Dvorak: part three don't know that three A is deceptive.
2:10:45
Okay.
2:10:46
Unknown: Boyd is a member of Malaysia's Climate Action
2:10:48
Council and she says everyone on the planet is at risk,
2:10:52
I think that the risk is real for everyone, whether you live
2:10:55
in the northern hemisphere or in the developing world, and I
2:10:58
think that you know, we are seeing the heat waves that are
2:11:01
going to happen now with the Phenom weather phenomena. We
2:11:06
know that in in many of these developed nations, the
2:11:10
demography mix of the nations are also different. So the
2:11:12
vulnerability of populations also will be more severe, where
2:11:17
there are elderly population. So I think, you know, everyone feel
2:11:21
the brunt of the in a warming world, no amount of advocacy and
2:11:28
work by all of us in the climate space and health space to tell
2:11:31
people about the damages and the consequences of climate change
2:11:36
is enough. We have skewed governance now that it's
2:11:38
favoring, you know, fossil fuel production, we are, you know, we
2:11:43
really need to reset the relationships, we need to re
2:11:46
examine why there is so much inaction. And until then, unless
2:11:50
we as humanity who have caused all this damage, start to re
2:11:54
examine our relationships with this planet. Honestly, I am
2:11:58
angry, you know, I feel that I cannot understand, you know, why
2:12:04
people are not ignoring the science. At the end of the day,
2:12:09
you know, we are in a very terrible situation. Now, we, you
2:12:13
know, we are facing what the UN has called an uncertainty
2:12:16
complex
2:12:17
Adam Curry: uncertainty complex. Is that like little things there
2:12:21
is that an inferiority complex
2:12:23
John C Dvorak: is there's uncertainty complex, you have
2:12:26
it. And so everybody does it. And if you're it, because you're
2:12:29
a climate change denier sciences, I thought was a self
2:12:37
contradictory statement in there, which was, I don't know
2:12:40
if you caught it. No, but it was one of these things. You hear
2:12:43
you hear these things all the time, this little truth wants to
2:12:45
come over listening to the sub clip, and you can hear what she
2:12:48
says, clearly,
2:12:51
Unknown: I cannot understand, you know why people are not
2:12:54
ignoring the science.
2:12:57
Adam Curry: Why they're not ignoring.
2:12:58
John C Dvorak: Why are people not ignoring the science?
2:13:05
Adam Curry: Truth comes out, that's how it always goes. I
2:13:07
actually have the French 24 promo reel of the WMO, which you
2:13:14
know, this, this tells you because it's world media rollup
2:13:17
Meteorological Organization. Now, I thought that the weather
2:13:22
is not climate. But yet these guys, they're the
2:13:26
meteorologists. They're in charge of
2:13:28
John C Dvorak: depending depends if it's convenient. Oh, blimey,
2:13:31
but if it's inconvenient, it's not claimed. But let's listen
2:13:35
what
2:13:35
Adam Curry: really sparked this incredible news.
2:13:37
Unknown: It is a stark warning. Yesterday on the one about the
2:13:41
climate emergency affecting all of us. The UN's World
2:13:45
Meteorological Organization, the WMO is saying that for the first
2:13:49
time ever, global temperatures are now more likely than not to
2:13:52
breach 1.5 degrees Celsius of warming between now and 2027 66
2:14:00
person
2:14:01
charged that we will exceed 1.5 degrees during the coming coming
2:14:08
five years. It's a conclusion that that we haven't been able
2:14:12
to limit the warming so far. And and we are still moving in the
2:14:17
wrong wrong direction.
2:14:19
The UN bodies forecast last year put the answer to about 5050.
2:14:24
Adam Curry: Okay, so the whole thing is because they said
2:14:28
instead of 50% 5050 In five years, it's now 66 Devil number.
2:14:35
It's now 66% I'd love to see their calculation. Could you
2:14:40
show your math? I mean, this is so so this is insultingly
2:14:45
stupid. Yeah, all right. I promised little background on
2:14:52
the Wagner group.
2:14:54
John C Dvorak: Unless you're smart. You promised a report and
2:14:57
Adam Curry: you Agile is a lot and some new things have come to
2:14:59
light First of all, the Kremlin on Thursday criticized a
2:15:04
decision by the United States to transfer Ukraine to Ukraine. The
2:15:09
forfeited assets of conservative Russian businessman Constantine,
2:15:13
Mallow VF saying it was illegal and would backfire on
2:15:17
Washington. Here it is. Now their start, I told you they
2:15:21
were going to do this. They're starting to transfer all the
2:15:23
assets to Ukraine, and this guy was ordered to do it. US
2:15:29
Attorney General Merrick Garland on Wednesday, authorized
2:15:31
millions of dollars worth of Mulleavy EFS forfeited assets to
2:15:35
be sent for use in Ukraine. The first such instance of forfeited
2:15:38
Russian money being used in such a way
2:15:41
John C Dvorak: as a lawsuit waiting to happen.
2:15:44
Adam Curry: Where you're going to do is the International
2:15:46
Criminal Court. And yours, there's,
2:15:50
John C Dvorak: there's Yeah, international law. Yeah, no,
2:15:53
Vance, this bullcrap. And
2:15:55
Adam Curry: what we discussed, what
2:15:57
John C Dvorak: is that guy got to do with it, the price of
2:15:59
bread, and
2:15:59
Adam Curry: you said it wouldn't happen? And I said it would. And
2:16:01
he said it wouldn't happen. Yes, you do what they say You said
2:16:04
that's exactly what you just said. It'll never happen.
2:16:07
There's international law against that. That's exactly
2:16:09
what you said. That's probably what I said. Then you're right.
2:16:12
And I said, you don't know what you're talking about. And I was
2:16:14
right. Do you know what I'm talking about? They don't care.
2:16:18
Except they don't care. Exactly. Dora does Europe.
2:16:20
Unknown: More than 40 countries as a summit of European leaders
2:16:23
have agreed a plan to make Russia pay for its war in
2:16:26
Ukraine. The Register of damages has been one of the major
2:16:30
talking points at the Council of Europe meeting in the Icelandic
2:16:33
capital, Reykjavik. Also on the agenda is approached by the
2:16:36
Prime Ministers of the UK and the Netherlands to build an
2:16:39
international coalition to boost Ukraine's air combat
2:16:42
capabilities.
2:16:43
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. So we just wrap it all together. You see
2:16:45
what's happening here. We need some money. And then we need
2:16:49
some money because they need to pay for some of our weapons. So
2:16:54
let's take that money that we took and let's buy some weapons
2:16:58
with it. And Zelinsky when shopping
2:17:01
Unknown: prisons last case continuous European tour a
2:17:04
meeting with the British prime minister after talks with the
2:17:06
Pope and the French president this weekend, senior foreign
2:17:09
correspondent and panel as the latest Good morning in
2:17:11
Yeah, good morning, George UK just confirming the delivery of
2:17:15
these long range missiles that Tom was talking about after a
2:17:17
weekend for apparently surprise visits for Zelinsky ahead of
2:17:20
those sheduled meetings in Italy, first with the Pope and
2:17:23
then with the Italian Prime Minister, in turn the German
2:17:25
sending a plane to bring him to Berlin. Then last night, the
2:17:28
French sending a plane to whisking to Paris for dinner
2:17:30
with Macron. And then this morning, a surprise visit here
2:17:34
in London with Prime Minister Sunak with multiple pledges of
2:17:37
tanks, armored vehicles, long range missiles and drones. And
2:17:41
training for fighter pilots and soldiers is looking a lot like a
2:17:44
crucial last minute shopping trip ahead of the upcoming
2:17:46
counter offensive, I think a chance to show America that the
2:17:49
major European allies really are trying to pull their weight. So
2:17:53
Lensky telling journalist in Italy the offensive is in the
2:17:56
final stages of preparation, and the first steps will be taken
2:17:59
soon. But I think the Ukrainians know that the pressure is now on
2:18:02
to show more results on the battlefield as soon as possible
2:18:05
to keep that aid flowing. How stupid
2:18:08
Adam Curry: is this? I do not understand how you can keep
2:18:11
saying that's common. We're getting ready. We're about to do
2:18:14
it. Are you ready? But pay attention but we'll we'll let
2:18:16
you know. In fact, they're probably going to announce it
2:18:18
the day before tomorrow is the day the spring offensive which
2:18:22
is now going to be in fall. Spring is over isn't it? So are
2:18:26
we in summer yet or is it still spring? But this is still spring
2:18:29
still spring when
2:18:30
John C Dvorak: it's summer? Summer shortly June.
2:18:32
Adam Curry: Okay, well, we can still make it under the wire.
2:18:35
But no, but no. Oh, no, no, I'm
2:18:37
John C Dvorak: gonna make it they're not gonna do it.
2:18:39
Adam Curry: While he do he just went shopping. So now there's
2:18:42
some Yeah,
2:18:43
John C Dvorak: cuz he got they got orders. They got orders to
2:18:45
ship to Somalia. Dan,
2:18:48
Adam Curry: be up. No. Yeah, it's interesting. You say that?
2:18:52
Before I bring in the Wagner group. Listen, who's trying to
2:18:56
help out with this conflict.
2:19:01
Unknown: This unexpected African peace initiative has garnered
2:19:04
attention and support from various quarters, demonstrating
2:19:08
the potential for diplomacy to transcend borders and forging
2:19:11
alliances over the
2:19:12
weekend, I had the opportunity to represent the views of a
2:19:19
number of African leaders with regards to a peace mission that
2:19:27
those African leaders have been talking about for quite a number
2:19:31
of months and consulting amongst themselves with regards to how
2:19:40
Africa can make a contribution to bring about a solution to the
2:19:47
conflict in Ukraine. We have been talking about as African
2:19:52
leaders, because we concluded that conflict in that part of
2:19:58
the world much See does not affect Africa directly in the
2:20:03
form of deaths and destruction to infrastructure. It does have
2:20:09
an impact on the lives of many Africans. With regard to food
2:20:15
security, the prices of fertilizers have gone up. Prices
2:20:20
of cereals have gone up. And the prices have fewer people of
2:20:27
African heads of states took the view that Africa does need to
2:20:34
put forward an initiative a peace initiative that could help
2:20:39
to contribute to the solution of that conflict.
2:20:44
Adam Curry: So this of course has nothing to do with Ukraine
2:20:47
Africa doesn't give a crap about Ukraine what they care about is
2:20:50
Russia's money Russia's mining for mineral wealth etc. Yes,
2:20:55
John C Dvorak: there's that element but don't you have you
2:20:57
maybe had to sidestep I've got two clips. Okay, cool. They do
2:21:02
care. I think Iran I think they care because they're gonna
2:21:05
starve to death if you listen to another unreported on the
2:21:08
Western media aspect of the war, which is kinda reminds me the
2:21:12
star cozy clip I played earlier. Play that we'll start with this
2:21:16
one, which is Ukraine and grain spring
2:21:20
Unknown: in western Ukraine. This young wheat will be ready
2:21:22
to harvest in two months, but farmers here worried they won't
2:21:26
be able to sell it because the war has severely disrupted
2:21:29
exports. Selena's family has owned this farm for decades. She
2:21:35
says Russia's blockade of black sea ports and new import
2:21:39
restrictions in some EU countries are hampering trade.
2:21:42
Ah, there it is. ethology. Yuck, sits the port blockades, we've
2:21:47
not being able to send by sea. So we started exporting via our
2:21:51
western border to Poland and Hungary. But now they've banned
2:21:55
our grains. So our trucks have to carry our products all the
2:21:58
way to Italy, Poland, Hungary and three other countries
2:22:02
recently banned imports of Ukrainian grain to prevent a
2:22:05
glut. Although the grain can still transmit through them.
2:22:09
It's forced this farm to find new clients further afield. But
2:22:12
logistics of pushing up costs. And not being able to export
2:22:16
easily means millions of dollars worth of grain could be lost.
2:22:20
Usually at this time of year, all of the grain on this farm
2:22:24
would have been sold. But because of the war, and all the
2:22:27
problems linked to it, half of last year's harvest is still
2:22:31
here having to be stocked in the silos. And in these huge plastic
2:22:36
sleeves.
2:22:37
Adam Curry: I think this complement what I'm saying this
2:22:39
Well, hold on. Let me just finish. And then you can play
2:22:42
your second one. This complements it because you can't
2:22:46
make a deal unless you have something to offer. They have
2:22:49
something to offer. They can take money from China, money
2:22:52
from America or money from Russia. That's what they're
2:22:55
offering up and all of Africa is being courted by everybody. And
2:23:00
there and so I think what they're saying is Russia will go
2:23:03
with you if you if you let us eat.
2:23:07
John C Dvorak: No, they did let them eat. They still have to,
2:23:10
they have to get this war result because the Russians part part
2:23:14
two of this clip actually brings Africa into it as I think it's
2:23:18
pretty revealing.
2:23:19
Unknown: Well, shrinking resources are causing strain
2:23:21
across the African continent and the Ukraine war has only made it
2:23:24
worse. South Africa's president says six African countries will
2:23:28
send a peace mission to Ukraine and Russia as soon as possible.
2:23:32
Senegal is one of the countries involved. Nicholas Hogg reports
2:23:35
from Dhaka,
2:23:36
a peace initiative by six African nations mediating an end
2:23:41
to the war in Ukraine. The announcement was made by South
2:23:44
African President Cyril Ramaphosa.
2:23:47
The two leaders that I had occasion to speak to that is
2:23:50
President Putin and President Zelensky agreed that they will
2:23:56
be willing to receive the mission of the African heads of
2:24:00
states in both Moscow and Kyiv.
2:24:04
Despite pressure from Western countries, most African
2:24:07
countries have abstained from voting on resolutions at the UN
2:24:11
Security Council condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
2:24:14
Meanwhile, Russia has been building close economic and
2:24:17
military ties with states in Africa since the war began.
2:24:22
So crazy. I believe Ukraine really needs to take steps
2:24:25
forward to meet the countries of the African continent. We didn't
2:24:28
work well, for many years. We didn't pay attention. I think
2:24:31
it's a big mistake. Ukraine is
2:24:33
one of the biggest exporters of wheat to Africa. Russia is one
2:24:37
of the largest exporters of fertilizer to the continent. The
2:24:42
heads of state of Zambia, Senegal, the Republic of Congo,
2:24:45
Uganda, Egypt, and South Africa are set to meet with the two
2:24:48
leaders as soon as possible, but many are questioning whether the
2:24:52
African peace initiative can succeed when others have failed.
2:24:56
Adam Curry: No, I think this is the way it's gonna go and and
2:24:59
run Russia has a huge incentive to be big man on campus in
2:25:04
Africa, the whole continent is open and there and here the Six
2:25:08
Nations ready to negotiate Africa.
2:25:13
John C Dvorak: If they can sell the idea that we're the ones
2:25:17
responsible for the there you go the war. We're obviously the
2:25:22
ones responsible for trying to starve the Africans.
2:25:26
Adam Curry: Yes, it's time for another live eight verse Bano.
2:25:31
Okay, so now let's look at the Wagner group because there's a
2:25:34
lot of things going on with them. France 24 did a very long
2:25:38
expose a I've cut it into just a couple of pieces. Because once
2:25:42
you hit the second clip, you already know that this people
2:25:46
laugh at me. They're telling me I'm stupid. Saved. This is not
2:25:50
true. These guys are for real, but they're the real. They're
2:25:53
the real. The real fighters. They're really doing all the
2:25:56
work. I'm calling bull crap on all of it. This is a Dad's Army
2:25:59
a fictional thing. And I've never seen more than five guys
2:26:03
in front of this fat dude who's not just Putin Putin chef, but
2:26:07
he's an oligarch and listen to this report from F 24.
2:26:12
Explaining the Wagner group the only fighting force we hear
2:26:17
about from Russia. We don't hear about Russian troops. We hear
2:26:20
about any any troop movements anymore. Not all the Bogner
2:26:23
group, the Wagner group back moved back in the group.
2:26:25
Unknown: Let's talk about the Wagner group
2:26:27
secretive Russian mercenary group shadowy
2:26:29
private security company that has ties to the Kremlin group
2:26:33
has a gruesome reputation.
2:26:38
The Wagner group has been around for about 10 years. And its
2:26:42
forces have shown up in all sorts of places, from Syria, to
2:26:46
Mali, to Mozambique.
2:26:48
What's interesting is essentially acting as a proxy
2:26:51
for the Russian government in different armed conflicts.
2:26:56
And recently, they've been getting a lot of attention
2:26:58
because of what they're doing in Ukraine.
2:27:01
Wagner went from being this small, Special Forces like
2:27:05
mercenary group in Africa to sort of large Cannon Fodder on
2:27:11
the fields of Ukraine.
2:27:13
So what do we actually know about the Wagner group? What it
2:27:16
does, where it operates? And who's behind it?
2:27:19
Adam Curry: Now, okay, whoo, this sounds like a real
2:27:22
Cinderella story. In this next piece, you'll hear a
2:27:25
representative from the CSIS Center for Strategic and
2:27:29
International Studies. Another one of those groups, and they'll
2:27:33
tell you about how dangerous this Wagner group really is.
2:27:36
Unknown: Longer group is secretive and hard to define.
2:27:39
Basically, they get paid to send their armed personnel to
2:27:42
different countries, you could say that makes them mercenaries,
2:27:46
but that word has a legal definition that doesn't always
2:27:49
fit with what they do. They're also often described as a PMC, a
2:27:53
private military company. That doesn't quite fit either.
2:27:57
Because Wagner isn't just one company,
2:28:00
it's better thought of as a loose network of companies,
2:28:04
financial intermediaries that are all linked together, in as
2:28:09
opaque away as possible so as to make it difficult to understand
2:28:14
what their financial and organizational links are, and to
2:28:18
make it very difficult to hold them accountable for their
2:28:20
actions. Does this
2:28:21
Adam Curry: sound like anything? This is not like Eric Prince's
2:28:26
outfit. This is something else. To me it's ghost.
2:28:31
Unknown: Now, the group first appeared in 2014. When Russia
2:28:34
illegally annexed Crimea and sided with pro Russian
2:28:38
separatists in eastern Ukraine. Footage of masked soldiers and
2:28:42
unmarked uniforms started cropping up. People were calling
2:28:45
them little green men, and at least some of them were linked
2:28:49
to the Wagner group. Now no name is in reference to the German
2:28:54
composer Richard Wagner, who was Hitler's favorite, and vogner
2:28:58
was apparently the battlefield callsign used by a guy named
2:29:02
Dmitry Utkin, who used to be a Special Forces officer in the
2:29:05
Russian military. He's often been talked about as the group's
2:29:08
founder and is reportedly still involved. But the man you really
2:29:13
need to know about is Yevgeny Prigogine. A Russian oligarch
2:29:17
Adam Curry: so when I heard the little green men in Ukraine in
2:29:20
2014, that's when I knew that this whole Wagner group thing is
2:29:23
bullcrap. We know the little green men we know who was
2:29:26
responsible for the killing on the My Dawn, it was not the
2:29:29
Wagner group. And please, the insult of throwing in the Oh
2:29:33
yeah, it's called Wagner because you know that love Hitler? Yeah,
2:29:36
it's named after Hitler's favorite composer. I mean, this
2:29:39
is propaganda. And here's the chef to oligarchy story.
2:29:45
Unknown: In late 2022, he came out of the shadows. There are
2:29:48
now several videos of Prigogine that work with his forces on the
2:29:52
ground and trying to sign up. New recruits for Goshen also
2:29:56
published this statement, claiming that he founded the
2:29:59
group Back in 2014, he officially registered the
2:30:03
company as a consulting business and opened up a flashy new
2:30:06
headquarters in St. Petersburg, which is significant
2:30:09
not only for being Wagner his first official headquarters
2:30:13
first formal existence, on paper and on property, but also for
2:30:18
the fact that it is located on Russian soil, where PMCS are
2:30:23
technically illegal.
2:30:24
Now precautions relationship with Putin goes back to the
2:30:27
1990s. They're from the same city of St. Petersburg, where
2:30:31
Prigogine went from selling hot dogs to owning several
2:30:35
restaurants. And Putin was a regular customer. After becoming
2:30:39
president. He brought along some pretty well known dignitaries,
2:30:43
and Prigogine picked up the nickname of Putin chef. Soon he
2:30:49
was scoring some pretty lucrative catering contracts,
2:30:52
including for the Russian military. Over the years, he's
2:30:55
become super rich, politically influential, and has built up a
2:31:00
media empire to
2:31:01
Adam Curry: know Okay, so this guy is fabulous. He's got
2:31:05
everything going for him, except it's starting to unravel. And
2:31:09
now we go back to our favorite topic, the leaked documents from
2:31:14
the kid in the discord chat room. Now things are unraveling
2:31:20
for the Wagner group because the leaked documents are telling us
2:31:24
something that is not does not shine favorably upon but
2:31:27
Gaussian precaution Shima Koshien, whatever the guy's name
2:31:31
is, and that dog guy, the hot dog guy exactly from hot dog guy
2:31:35
to media mogul,
2:31:36
Unknown: an act of treason or an attempted set up. According to
2:31:40
The Washington Post Wagner owner and founder Yevgeni particular
2:31:43
sheen allegedly offered to reveal the positions of Russian
2:31:46
troops to the Ukrainian government back in January in
2:31:49
exchange for keep withdrawing its troops from Bahamas where
2:31:53
Wagner's mercenaries had been paying a heavy price for months
2:31:56
in the ongoing war. The Russian oligarch called the allegations
2:32:00
nonsense. He also denied claims of having met the head of
2:32:03
Ukrainian military intelligence and an unnamed African country
2:32:07
and suggested he was being set up by some of Moscow's
2:32:10
elitist mob was revered in this just because I was here I can
2:32:13
say with certainty that I haven't been in Africa, at least
2:32:16
since the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine and even in
2:32:19
the month before the start of the special military operation.
2:32:23
I couldn't physically meet anyone their new skin,
2:32:26
your new mock the claims from the Washington Post are based on
2:32:30
the secret US documents leaked to the group chat platform
2:32:33
discord in April. The allegations come after
2:32:36
precaution publicly called out several high ranking members of
2:32:39
the Russian military commander, accusing them of withholding
2:32:42
ammunition and weapons from his men and not supporting Wagner
2:32:44
troops and back. For its part, the Kremlin has dismissed the
2:32:48
accusations as hearsay.
2:32:53
No, I can't comment on it. But it looks like another hoax.
2:32:58
Unfortunately, even publications that were respected in the past
2:33:03
have become accustomed to this.
2:33:06
Meanwhile, Washington has declined to comment on the
2:33:09
newspapers report.
2:33:10
Adam Curry: Okay, so notice there's Africa again, Africa in
2:33:14
the picture clearly in the picture of this quagmire. And
2:33:18
this Washington Post report, which came out Saturday was
2:33:22
sections were deleted on Sunday. Here's a section that was
2:33:26
deleted from this Washington Post report. This is an
2:33:30
interview with Zelinsky WaPo. I says, the documents indicate
2:33:34
that the G EUR your Intelligence Directorate has backchannel
2:33:38
contact with even G Poghosyan. That you are aware of including
2:33:43
meeting with Prigogine and G who are officers? Is that true?
2:33:47
Zelinsky. This is a matter of military intelligence. Do you
2:33:51
want me to be convicted of state treason? And so it's very
2:33:54
interesting if someone is saying that you have documents, which
2:33:57
were the leaked documents, or if someone from our government is
2:33:59
speaking about the activities of our intelligence, I would also
2:34:02
like to ask you a question with which sources from Ukraine Do
2:34:05
you have contacts who was talking about the activities of
2:34:08
our intelligence? Because this is the most severe felony our
2:34:11
country? Which Ukrainians are you talking about? WaPo I talked
2:34:15
to officials in government but these documents are not from the
2:34:17
Ukraine they are from Zelinsky doesn't matter where the
2:34:21
documents are from. The question is which Ukrainian official Did
2:34:24
you talk to you because if they say something about our
2:34:26
intelligence, that's treason. If they say something about a
2:34:29
specific offensive plan of one general or another, it is also
2:34:32
treason. That is why I asked you which Ukrainians are you are you
2:34:35
talking to? This was all deleted. But luckily, we have
2:34:39
Judge Napolitano on the case the Washington
2:34:42
Unknown: Post is claiming that you have Jenny precaution. You
2:34:46
remember he we've run the clips of him many times. He is the
2:34:50
Russian oligarch. He's a self made billionaire who runs
2:34:54
something called the Wagner group. The Wagner group was
2:34:57
originally established by I, the old Gru Gru is the initials for
2:35:03
what used to be called Russian military intelligence, if
2:35:07
different initials and different names now, but basically the
2:35:10
same people. So, precaution but some of his money in the GRU put
2:35:15
some of their money in, and they got these special forces types.
2:35:20
And then they got prisoner types. And then they got killer
2:35:24
types. And then they got veterans. And they put together
2:35:28
this group of soldiers of fortune, and they fight where
2:35:32
the Russian president wants them. And they've been pretty
2:35:34
effective and even ruthless fighters in Ukraine. So what has
2:35:39
changed now now back to this allegation, if precaution had
2:35:45
offered to give Russian military plans, the most secret plans
2:35:49
there are about where Russian troops are located, and from
2:35:53
where they plan to attack to Russia's mortal enemy. I would
2:35:57
think that he'd be in a gulag in Siberia by now. So either he
2:36:03
offered to do this as part of a Russian plot to give false
2:36:08
plans, or he never offered to do this. And the CIA has persuaded
2:36:14
the Washington Post which has been a mouthpiece for the CIA
2:36:18
for 60 years, six zero years, or the CIA persuaded the Washington
2:36:27
Post to go with the story in the Washington Post did so
2:36:30
uncritically. So I don't know if this is true or not. But I want
2:36:33
you to know that it's out there these allegations that
2:36:37
precaution made this offer, I believe this is either entirely
2:36:42
made up by the CIA or precaution did make this offer. But it
2:36:47
wasn't offered to give them false information and false
2:36:50
hope, which would result in their destruction.
2:36:55
Adam Curry: What do you think is really going on here, John?
2:36:59
John C Dvorak: Well, the first thing I think of when I think of
2:37:02
the white Guru is middlemen for the black market. Yeah, for
2:37:07
nothing and minerals and stuff. Mainly, well, maybe minerals,
2:37:10
one direction and arms, our arms that we're sending over there
2:37:14
and the other direction, because I don't see those arms are being
2:37:17
used wisely. Or
2:37:19
Adam Curry: even at all. We know they're showing up all over
2:37:21
Africa. We know that so
2:37:23
John C Dvorak: there's something fishy going on. I think this guy
2:37:25
in he's kind of I know what kind of an oligarch he is. But bike
2:37:29
market would be one good way of being that we did, especially in
2:37:32
the restaurant business where you can do money laundering. The
2:37:37
whole thing is, I don't know. I have no idea. It's a mess. I
2:37:41
don't I don't believe any of it.
2:37:42
Adam Curry: No, I think it's all it's all of it's phony. It's all
2:37:47
phony baloney of deceit that this is the last two clips. I
2:37:51
love the France 24 explanation. I mean, you make this in this
2:37:54
whole thing and no one really knows. And it's all complicated.
2:37:58
But oh yeah, you know, Wagner, and especially the Hitler's
2:38:02
favorite composer is this. It has fake written all over it
2:38:06
from
2:38:07
John C Dvorak: you and you bring a Hitler into the conversation.
2:38:09
That's a red flag.
2:38:10
Adam Curry: Here's Nora O'Donnell on Putin's private
2:38:12
army
2:38:13
Unknown: now to a CBS News investigation into Russia's
2:38:16
vogner group. That's a private paramilitary organization with
2:38:20
close ties to President Vladimir Putin. Now most know the group
2:38:23
through its involvement in the war in Ukraine, but one of its
2:38:26
main sources of funding comes from working with unsavory
2:38:29
regimes around the world. The US labeled them a transnational
2:38:33
criminal organization. Hmm. CBS Deborah PATA followed the
2:38:37
mercenary groups trail to Central Africa.
2:38:41
Being Vladimir Putin's a tech dog in Ukraine requires deep
2:38:45
pockets. That's why Bob the Busey of Guinea through Goshen
2:38:49
relies on plundering natural resources 1000s of miles away
2:38:53
here in the Central African Republic. In exchange, Wagner
2:38:58
provides mercenary muscle to prop up the country's leader.
2:39:01
Here, you see most Russian fighters actually guarding the
2:39:06
president. documents obtained by CBS news show how valid there is
2:39:11
given government contracts to exploit car gold mines and
2:39:14
forests through a galaxy of shell companies. oarsmen not his
2:39:19
real name told us he was tortured by the mercenaries who
2:39:23
seized his family's gold business, he said ca RS minerals
2:39:27
and would help fund the group's criminal activities.
2:39:30
Adam Curry: I think you're right I think this is exactly what's
2:39:33
going on. These guys are they're probably just getting all the
2:39:36
way get all these weapons from the US I will take these we'll
2:39:40
take these we'll take these and send them back down to Africa.
2:39:42
Africa is gone. Hey, we got a pretty good gig going on here.
2:39:46
But you know, we've we're pretty strong in this now let's let us
2:39:50
eat. And we'll see if we can do some business with the with
2:39:55
Russia that how
2:39:56
Unknown: does the US designated transnational criminal
2:39:59
organization An exported Gold Bug Net they have total control
2:40:04
of the airport or smart explains and a cargo plane flying between
2:40:07
Moscow and Bungie. Sure, CBS News secretly recorded this
2:40:12
Bogner cargo plane just after it landed in the capital. From car
2:40:18
that plane went dark over Africa, before turning up in the
2:40:21
United Arab Emirates. Soon after another plane also lands there
2:40:26
from Moscow. The two aircraft overlap for about eight hours,
2:40:31
plenty of time to potentially transfer cargo before heading
2:40:35
back to where they came from. This web of deceit allows
2:40:39
Prigogine to evade sanctions and rake in the billions that fund
2:40:44
his criminal empire and his private army in Ukraine. State
2:40:50
Department officials have told us that the US is working to
2:40:53
limit precautions ability to profit from others operations in
2:40:57
Africa and that it is engaging all countries who may be
2:41:01
facilitating this knowingly or unknowingly.
2:41:05
Adam Curry: I think we both kind of stumbled onto the same thing
2:41:07
Africa Africa is the cat bird here this is this is this is the
2:41:11
theater
2:41:12
John C Dvorak: you know this is interesting where they do the
2:41:14
deal there they transfer the planes or goods or whatever the
2:41:16
hell they're doing in the United Arab Emirates and so they're
2:41:19
stealing gold go at the UAE is where is one of the biggest gold
2:41:25
markets in the world. I mean, there's a whole area in Dubai I
2:41:30
visited which is just a gold district. It's like a you know,
2:41:34
it's like the Jewelry District Right? Right. You can buy all as
2:41:38
gone they sell you gold in any form you want bracelets
2:41:44
necklaces, or buy them with the current weight the way it it's
2:41:49
it's astonishing gold market. And so I think they're taking
2:41:52
the gold there. And that's kind of left out of the report
2:41:55
because this all black market stuff. These guys are black
2:41:58
market tears.
2:41:59
Adam Curry: This is great. For sure it has nothing to do with
2:42:02
Ukraine.
2:42:04
John C Dvorak: Now it's got nothing to do it Ukraine.
2:42:07
Adam Curry: With Ukraine. This is international goods, weapons.
2:42:12
All kinds of gold black market stuff. Yeah.
2:42:14
John C Dvorak: A lot of taxpayer a lot of American taxpayer money
2:42:16
stuff.
2:42:17
Adam Curry: Yes. And what do we know about Ukraine corrupt? It's
2:42:20
where you want to where you exactly where you want to
2:42:23
operate all this stuff from perfect? Yeah, no, no,
2:42:28
John C Dvorak: I think we've been taken for a
2:42:29
Adam Curry: ride, I would say. Oh, goodness gracious. Oh, I do
2:42:38
have a quick report about the next pandemic. It's about time
2:42:42
for bird flu. They've tried it several times in our past. No,
2:42:45
no, no, they're gonna bring it from Canada and I know how
2:42:48
Unknown: poultry farmers in Quebec are grappling with a
2:42:51
series of outbreaks of deadly avian flu. The province has
2:42:55
never seen so many Kaos
2:42:56
Adam Curry: deadly avian flu, not bird flu, deadly avian flu
2:43:00
Unknown: cases. And right now it's Canada's epicenter for the
2:43:03
disease. Let's get more from the CBC. Sarah Levitt joins us live
2:43:07
from Montreal. Sarah, what is the situation in Quebec right
2:43:10
now?
2:43:13
Well, Hannah, it's not good for poultry farmers. Right now the
2:43:17
latest numbers were about 20 Farms in all were found to be
2:43:21
infected with the avian flu. That's not good news for those
2:43:25
farmers. It means having to either euthanize either the
2:43:30
birds die from the flu or they have to euthanize the entire
2:43:34
flock. And you know, the vectors and all this are usually
2:43:40
migratory birds. So we're in an area there's a goose right
2:43:44
nearby, but I'm a little scared so I didn't go too close to our
2:43:48
feet. But this is an area of Montreal where a lot of geese
2:43:51
come by and the birds are the vectors in this they end up
2:43:56
going to those farms and infecting rather even if it's
2:44:00
directly or indirectly the domestic fowl
2:44:05
Adam Curry: we've got to kill the Canadian Geese
2:44:08
John C Dvorak: they're gonna brat that's that's bad news for
2:44:11
me. Why? This is what this Albany Berkeley areas were most
2:44:16
of them come to roost during at some part of the year they just
2:44:22
blow a day go by the house. Yeah, in in V formation on
2:44:28
aunque.
2:44:29
Adam Curry: And you saw you saw the reporter was like, I'm
2:44:31
afraid I'm not getting too close to this goose over here. Yes,
2:44:35
the Canadian geese that they are the migrant. They're that
2:44:37
they're bringing the deadly avian flu. They also get into
2:44:41
airplane engines.
2:44:42
John C Dvorak: They're mean birds by the way.
2:44:46
Adam Curry: One of our producers was on a CDC call earlier in the
2:44:50
week. And there is now a seventh airport pilot program where the
2:44:55
CDC once an aircraft lands to another country. You gets
2:45:00
samples from the laboratory and sends them off to the lab to
2:45:04
test them for PCR for anything they want to find.
2:45:09
John C Dvorak: They can find anything they want, as we know
2:45:11
that the PCR test actly.
2:45:13
Adam Curry: Exactly. People are sick, so they can do anything
2:45:19
they want. Oh, deadly avian bird flu. We found it. We just spun
2:45:23
up the PCR cycles to 50. We found it. We got it for a new
2:45:28
variant of COVID or whatever they don't
2:45:30
John C Dvorak: know. I think the P I think you're probably right
2:45:31
about because they gotta change the messaging every so often.
2:45:35
And we've been primed. Don't forget that. Yes, we've been
2:45:39
primed for bird flu for at least a decade.
2:45:44
Adam Curry: Ah, all right, one more and then we'll take our
2:45:47
final break here. This is about the fabulous weight loss drugs
2:45:54
including ozempic and there's a new thing here. Now this is from
2:45:58
our friend Becky Worley who did this report on Good Morning
2:46:01
America. Have you seen Becky recently?
2:46:05
John C Dvorak: Not in person now. On the TV? Oh, no. No,
2:46:10
Adam Curry: we recently we have to talk to her lipstick is too
2:46:12
dark. It's just it's too dark for for her hair color
2:46:17
everything what is a she should
2:46:19
John C Dvorak: have okay, I mean they should have people they
2:46:23
should have people telling her.
2:46:25
Adam Curry: She needs her friends like Adam and John who
2:46:28
knew her a note yet please do is just to you'll see it I'll send
2:46:31
you the clip is too dark. So she she did a test. A whole piece
2:46:36
was like six minutes. I cut out all the testimonials in the
2:46:39
middle but they all say the same thing. Here we go
2:46:41
Unknown: got our weight loss revolution series to give deep
2:46:44
dive into the new class of weight loss drugs that have seen
2:46:47
a meteoric rise in popularity and use. Becky Worley joins us
2:46:51
now with more on the reported side effects of these drugs and
2:46:54
what happens to people who are taking them. Good morning,
2:46:57
Becca.
2:46:58
Lindsey. Good morning. Yeah, millions of Americans have been
2:47:01
prescribed injectable weight loss drugs but with one study
2:47:04
saying 75% of users experienced side effects. We want to know
2:47:09
how severe they are and people feel like they're worth it. And
2:47:13
doing my research for this piece. I kept hearing the same
2:47:16
thing that Lee just said these drugs quiet the food noise or
2:47:20
the cravings to eat. Lindsay it's a brain and body drug.
2:47:26
Back into piece also mentioned things like nausea and GI
2:47:29
issues, you have the possibility for more serious side effects as
2:47:32
well.
2:47:34
Well, the makers of ozempic we go via and Manjaro say if you
2:47:37
experience any side effects, you need to contact your health care
2:47:40
provider. Your question there are no reported irreversible
2:47:44
side effects associated with using these drugs. However,
2:47:48
thyroid tumors did appear in lab tests of the three drugs on mice
2:47:52
and rats so people with personal or family history of thyroid
2:47:55
cancer should avoid them. One more thing we should mention
2:47:58
these drugs are often not covered by insurance and can be
2:48:01
costly. I wouldn't have more on that later this week.
2:48:04
Adam Curry: It's a brain and body drug. It calms down the
2:48:07
food noise inside your head. What is this stuff doing to you?
2:48:16
That can't be good. That can't be good.
2:48:18
John C Dvorak: No, of course not. It's just a diabetic drug
2:48:21
for people with really bad diabetes.
2:48:24
Adam Curry: And you know what it is? It's magic, John, it's
2:48:28
magic.
2:48:29
Unknown: I'm gonna show my school by donating to no agenda.
2:48:32
Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun
2:48:42
John C Dvorak: actually have a really short list today for
2:48:44
people to thank but let's start by thanking Zachary be in line
2:48:50
or lino liner Lakes, Minnesota nuts. He needs a D douching.
2:48:55
Cookie. Sorry, you must consider d deuced. He says he also wants
2:49:05
to call out Jesse B of Minnesota as a douchebag. Onward with Liz
2:49:13
Meuser Meuser in San Ramon California, saying she needs a
2:49:18
dedeaux she, she needs weight. She needs her husband Andy de
2:49:23
Deus. You've been de deuced she claims that he punched her in
2:49:31
the face. Oh, no,
2:49:32
Adam Curry: it's not right. That's wrong. That's wrong.
2:49:34
Wrong. Wrong. Man.
2:49:36
John C Dvorak: William Spratt, Marietta, Georgia. Oh, she came
2:49:39
in with 133 By the way, and Zachary was 150 William Spratt
2:49:43
came in at 125. And he's got a Happy Mother's Day I mentioned
2:49:48
for Erica and Souquet. See there's anything there is a
2:49:56
Mother's Day donation. Sir lavish in Concord, California.
2:50:00
on a one to one Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico 100.
2:50:03
Shane, wearing gow wearing God in Byron Center Michigan 100
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greatness in the newsletter I like that. Dame Laura in
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Sammamish, Washington 100 and some birthday call out to Sir
2:50:20
Austin. America needs us. Bowman Bauman are Bowman McMahon in San
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Antonio 9777. Kevin McLaughlin doesn't miss out on any show
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boobs. Andray pit you Pete You helped me awesome. Sorry, he's
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is in Holland. James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey.
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5510. Richard Futter, Sir Richard in London 2510 Dean
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rocker 2510 Dustin Voss sermon in Ashland, Oregon 5395. sugar
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melts and goes away but vinegar lasts forever. Okay, Danny Rick
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zoo in turn rumbled Trumbull, Connecticut $50.50. Fill up blue
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in Louisville, Kentucky. $50. And the rest of these are $50.
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Reagan I had that many here. Starting off with easy
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landscapes in North Stonington. Connecticut. You have landscape
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needs go there. Kelly MacDill and Mission Hills, Kansas Chris
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Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta. Mike who's been with
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the show forever, Sir Chris. Yeah. Michael Thompson in new
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brown fells Texas. Big pop up productions in Minneapolis,
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Minnesota. Go there for all your production needs. Peter odo in
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orig New York Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee Joan pulse
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in Hernando Beach, Florida Stephen Schumacher in Xenia,
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Ohio Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida. Sir Scott
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lavender in Montgomery, Texas Alexandre ver de novo in Gig
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Harbor, Washington and last but not least, gadget freak 10 in
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Western Springs, Illinois. I want to thank these people for
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being producers and helping this show get produced in the first
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place. This is show 1556
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you can join up for or even create your own Learn more here
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The no agenda birthday same Laura wishes sir Austin Barrett
2:53:16
of the Puget Sound a belated Happy Birthday celebrated on May
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12. Eric Mackey up his birthday tomorrow. No today actually the
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80s and Jay was just reading a happy birthday turns 29 today
2:53:28
and Ryan Jones wishes his daughter Kayla a happy birthday
2:53:31
turning three years old tomorrow. Happy birthday from
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everybody here the best podcast in the universe
2:53:46
don't want to be induced on title change today goes to sure
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fill up the Blue Grass who pointed up another $1,000 which
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we love very much. Thank you, sir. And he becomes a Baronet
2:53:57
today and we appreciate that. baronet's sir Phil of the
2:54:01
bluegrass. Now before we get to our nights and Dame we have note
2:54:06
here from our layaway night Carl marble. He says John Adams had
2:54:09
been on the $4 week plan since 2018. At my latest calculation,
2:54:13
I crossed the $1,000 threshold 11 weeks ago, and he provided a
2:54:18
CSV file. Thank you. I am recovering physicists that sold
2:54:22
out and went into computing. I'd been a dude named Ben, a manager
2:54:25
of dudes and dudettes named Ben and now a director of managers
2:54:28
who manages dudes and dudettes named Ben and Bernadette working
2:54:32
in Silicon Valley companies until 2015. I saw the corporate
2:54:35
woke mind virus coming complete with canceling of people and it
2:54:39
is evil. Well, it was a good four to five years before equity
2:54:43
showed up at my new gig. You guys provide a sane perspective
2:54:46
on the media and its masturbatory effects at self
2:54:49
aggrandizement and pled mind control along with a lot of
2:54:53
laughs and just overall positive energy. That's awesome. Adam,
2:54:56
your professionalism of your profession of faith is very
2:54:59
powerful. It I'm a Christian, and your introduction of mlf.org
2:55:03
on no agenda set me in motion to do God's work effectively and
2:55:06
not to be bothered starting out small. There are many so many
2:55:10
broken people who need God's help. Can you please send me
2:55:12
some goat karma and play Yoko Ono's Great Gig in the Sky
2:55:15
performance at the roundtable. You would like to have rye
2:55:18
whiskey and shady schoon not familiar with the Shady Glen
2:55:22
licorice chip ice cream that we ordered that people never heard
2:55:27
Unknown: of it. They ordered
2:55:28
Adam Curry: it they got something somehow Yes, we can
2:55:33
see a shout out to his fellow slaves from the Red 33 Red 33
2:55:37
Boston meetup Nate Lee and Paul and my request the title is Sir
2:55:41
Carl with a K of the missing semicolon love as light Carl
2:55:45
marble All right, so we got Carl on deck along with a couple
2:55:49
other people we have two other nights including my my my
2:55:53
periodontist and one Dame so let's get out of blade here
2:55:56
John. Here you go. You sure that's the one you want to pull?
2:56:03
Definitely want to have here. Okay on there we go. Kellyanne
2:56:07
Conway come on up the podium anonymous Mitchell pump start
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and Carl marble all of you have now become night and day of the
2:56:15
no agenda roundtable thanks to your contribution the amount of
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$1,000 more we could not be more happy and I'm very proud to
2:56:21
pronounce the k d as Dame Kelly of the longest islands. Sir
2:56:26
Dirty Dan the garbage man consumer of raw milk denier
2:56:29
science and ally of the unvaccinated sir Dr. Captain
2:56:32
Maverick and Sir Carl with a K of the missing semicolon for
2:56:36
you. We've got Booker's and blow rent boys in Chardonnay dirty
2:56:39
martini and some expensive blue cheese rye whiskey and JD Glen
2:56:42
liquors chippers ice cream, we've got to ginger ale and
2:56:45
turbo sparkling cider and escorts bong hits and bourbon
2:56:47
and of course, the requisite mutton and Mead. Go ahead, head
2:56:51
over to no agenda rings.com and select your ring size, give us
2:56:56
an address to send it to and we'll gladly send those off to
2:56:59
you. Congratulations to all of you and welcome to the
2:57:03
roundtable of the no agenda. Nate's Nate's Knights and Dames.
2:57:06
Good to have you here. Know what a
2:57:15
lot of people still buzzing about the big Austin meetup and
2:57:18
Baron Scott was able to throw together a meetup report which
2:57:22
I'm going to be happy to play here. Christine, aka Mr. Scott.
2:57:27
I'm so glad everyone's here. This is great. In the morning.
2:57:29
Hey, this is Alex with the Austin meetup. This is Sir Chris
2:57:32
Callen Baron
2:57:33
Unknown: in North Austin. This is Brendan for local
2:57:35
five folks. Hey, this is Chris bag.
2:57:37
In the morning, Greg here from buna Texas in the morning. This
2:57:41
is Cynthia,
2:57:42
this is danger ninja aka Councilwoman Kelly it is nice to
2:57:47
seek asylum at a no agenda meetup
2:57:50
as Jason did a bit I'm lost in Austin and no TNC bots today.
2:57:55
This mark this is Minister cat does Mr. Robot hey this is
2:57:59
Pastor
2:58:00
Jimmy hanging out with Adam curry.
2:58:02
Rachel OC sir Brian with an eye here with Sir C sharp of dotnet
2:58:07
here just a Rob here. This has been from Best stroke. This is
2:58:11
the moss and Karen
2:58:14
Gordon wall Baron
2:58:16
surge on loan at the Austin meetups is Casey wasty Williams
2:58:19
from San Antonio
2:58:22
in the morning from Louisiana hashtag go South Dakota My
2:58:26
pronouns are queso and Jeff thanks to Scott Adam. Everybody
2:58:31
I'm loving it here. Adam curry for the first time dudes pretty
2:58:35
sick. Where
2:58:39
Adam Curry: here's the no agenda okey who we who we meet up he
2:58:41
Unknown: James here. There's gooey gooey meet up right now
2:58:44
happening. Adam and John you're the best this is David Cassidy
2:58:47
never stopped in the morning.
2:58:48
I am not a spook in the morning. I do believe I will say we're
2:58:53
having a good time. Hey guys, Dave here, John. Turn your
2:58:58
speakers up.
2:58:59
We'd love to see you guys at an Oklahoma meet up come to
2:59:02
Oklahoma. Hey Dan, come
2:59:04
to Oklahoma. It's not that far. Hannah may one Whelan
2:59:07
millennial, probably the spook
2:59:10
surprise your night of astonishment at a new living by
2:59:13
Baja Oklahoma. COVID.
2:59:15
Adam Curry: See us sometime. Yeah. We send everybody to
2:59:21
Oklahoma. Tell him it's also Texas. All right. Thank you. Two
2:59:24
other written reports. One from the it was the second northwest
2:59:27
Houston meetup from Barron's or economic hitman. He says it was
2:59:30
a big success. He had the famous Rolando Gonzalez and his wife
2:59:33
Sarah, as well as Brian aka speedskater and his family. It
2:59:38
was raining pretty hard, unfortunately. So gray night
2:59:40
couldn't find us who tried to join and the Portland Oregon
2:59:44
meet up the surf soiree, which just Steph Steph held at her
2:59:49
house about 13 blocks from their usual slave story hanging out
2:59:52
Dick's primal burger. After weeks of 50 degrees and rain the
2:59:55
weather finally cooperated. They had a wonderful evening sitting
2:59:58
on the deck enjoying beer and barbecue Do burgers and broths
3:00:01
and completely not mellow Great Dane and a mellow little lap
3:00:04
dog. Amazing to realize most of the group has known each other
3:00:07
for more than two years now. One person has only ever come to our
3:00:11
meetup once. And it was great to see him back. A great success.
3:00:15
This is what these meetups are. They're fantastic to be a part
3:00:18
of. And here's her lavish who just donated with a promo for
3:00:22
the next meetup. He's hosting.
3:00:26
Unknown: No, no, no agenda Meetup is two days. certifies
3:00:32
independence Concord East Bay meetup San Francisco Oakland
3:00:37
Sacramento comes to my meetup seven VM grenade is in the mail
3:00:48
John
3:00:53
Adam Curry: yes indeed the North Idaho Sandy brigade Third
3:00:55
Thursday meet up is kicks off today at five o'clock in Selkirk
3:00:59
Abby post Idaho Falls the divided and conquered East Bay
3:01:02
meet up seven at the hop grenade Concord, California. Charlotte's
3:01:06
Thursday Third Thursday monthly meet up at seven edge tavern
3:01:09
Charlotte, North Carolina. The second leg and amygdala checkup
3:01:13
is well underway if not over the Staats Brauhaus in Laden in late
3:01:17
in the Netherlands on Saturday, the London limited hangout 230
3:01:20
British time the gypsy moth and Greenwich gypsy moth Greenwich
3:01:24
in London, the star chamber of Idaho on Saturday at El Mariachi
3:01:28
and star Idaho. The last chance grip and grin 330 At the last
3:01:33
chance pub and cider mill in Billings, Montana. Also on
3:01:36
Saturday, the New York City no agenda drinking club gets
3:01:38
together at four o'clock at Ocean smart Sports Bar and Grill
3:01:42
brownstone Billiards in Brooklyn. That should be fun. A
3:01:45
lot of meetups this Saturday, the Steel City potluck meet up
3:01:48
at fourth private house so make sure you talk to me about that.
3:01:53
Spot the spook five o'clock at the west end grill in
3:01:55
Huntsville, Alabama. On Sunday our next show day we're still
3:01:59
here 505 meet up one o'clock at Urban 360 Pizza in Albuquerque
3:02:03
New Mexico that's our very own nights with Jeff tow AIG hosting
3:02:06
that the crossroads of America tribes Southside prodigy edition
3:02:09
three o'clock at prodigy burger and bar Indianapolis, Indiana
3:02:13
and the final one for Sunday the Bitcoin Pizza Day 220 23 330
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Central Rotolo is pizza in Longview Texas your organizer
3:02:21
there sir dirty Jersey whore those the no agenda meetup just
3:02:25
a couple of them for the next few days they're everywhere all
3:02:27
around the world almost every single day to find out more go
3:02:30
to no agenda meetup.com Guaranteed always a party with
3:02:43
me you see is like a big ask party really big party, big
3:02:58
party. Crew lot of meetups just crazy. People love in their
3:03:03
meetups. Don't I mean are you still alive? I'm right here. All
3:03:10
right, I'm gonna give you my two choices for ISO here's number
3:03:13
one.
3:03:13
Unknown: Everybody in Washington gets all we don't.
3:03:16
Adam Curry: I'd never heard this font from Obama. I kind of liked
3:03:19
it. And here's Schwarzenegger who's out on the climate trail.
3:03:23
Climate change trail again, climate it's time it's time it's
3:03:26
time to time exam exam.
3:03:29
John C Dvorak: That's all I got. Was it? Yeah, that's all I got.
3:03:32
Alright, I have one the candidates is Michael Douglas.
3:03:37
He went he got an award for lifetime achievement award at
3:03:40
Cannes,
3:03:41
Adam Curry: Cannes.
3:03:42
John C Dvorak: That comes Holland Khan's comps at Cannes.
3:03:46
And so he does so that he gave me an ISO. All right,
3:03:50
Adam Curry: Michael, come on in.
3:03:52
John C Dvorak: And Merci beaucoup.
3:03:56
Adam Curry: I mean, I like it. Merci. Merci beaucoup. To you
3:04:00
too, sir. I like it as good. We can take that one.
3:04:06
John C Dvorak: What are we up and go out with one clip?
3:04:08
Adam Curry: Alright, three. We got three bucks and four and 40
3:04:11
cents. Let's go watch a clip.
3:04:13
John C Dvorak: This is a tribute attribute clip. No. I'm Claire
3:04:17
Daly. Car friend. Yes. socialist communist. She's a real one,
3:04:22
though. Oh, gee, yeah. Claire de Leon, Julian Assange.
3:04:28
Unknown: Pretty impressive that the parliament has swung into
3:04:31
action. So quickly in relation to the case of anti Putin, anti
3:04:35
Ukrainian war journalists flood Mayor Karen Morrison, who was
3:04:38
given a 25 year prison sentence this week for his journalism. A
3:04:44
sentence rightly slammed by the EU as outrageously harsh is is
3:04:50
but it's still 150 years less than Julian Assange will get if
3:04:54
he's convicted and prosecuted in the US for his anti war
3:04:59
journalism. exposing us war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan.
3:05:04
He's been in prison for over four years. Tonight. He's pre
3:05:07
freedom for many more yet we've never had one of these
3:05:11
discussions in here calling for his release. We've never had one
3:05:15
discussion about the case of Pablo Gonzalez imprisoned in
3:05:19
Poland for the last year for his anti war journalism. Unless
3:05:23
we're consistent in these motions, they're nothing more
3:05:27
than meaningless geopolitical Shams the instrumentalisation of
3:05:32
human rights for political ends that is not good enough. You
3:05:37
know,
3:05:37
Adam Curry: I like her and I think what she says of course is
3:05:40
spot on but she doesn't have that. That see needs the humor
3:05:43
element that that our boy had. Faraj Faraj Faraj had something
3:05:50
good there that just was a little extra, a little extra
3:05:53
thing. He
3:05:53
John C Dvorak: had it a different kind of disdain and
3:05:56
kind of an upper class. British disdain she needs to do she has
3:06:01
kind of a middle class Irish to stay. It's not the same Scots
3:06:04
Irish.
3:06:05
Adam Curry: It's missing some The X Factor. I mean, it is
3:06:10
missing the X Factor. Curry Devorah Consulting Group can
3:06:13
help you out ma'am. Give us a call deck Becky Warli. Same
3:06:16
thing. We're good. We're good to help everybody. End of show
3:06:19
mixes tyrannical list. Tom Starkweather. Sir Michael
3:06:23
Anthony. And coming up next on no agenda stream. rare encounter
3:06:28
with cold acid and Abel Kirby. Oh, man, I don't know what what
3:06:34
they're doing today. They do all kinds of nutty stuff on the
3:06:37
stream. That's no agenda stream.com, the troll room.io
3:06:40
And all of those modern podcast apps coming to you from the
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heart of the Texas hill country. Here in FEMA Region number six
3:06:47
in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
3:06:49
John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C.
3:06:51
Devorah.
3:06:51
Adam Curry: We will return on Sunday with another fun packed
3:06:56
jam packed show full of deconstruction just for you.
3:07:00
It's what we do. Remember us at DeVore act.org/na Until then,
3:07:05
adios mofos a hui Hui Pena such.
3:07:13
Unknown: This is Paris's first zero carbon neighborhood in
3:07:17
Eleuthera to our fertile Island. Four buildings surround a
3:07:22
central garden. Within this small locality. You can live
3:07:27
work shop, or play sports. It's built on a 1.3 hectare former
3:07:34
industrial site bordered by railway tracks. I wonder why
3:07:39
we'll need those. The buildings are made from locally sourced
3:07:44
materials and low carbon concrete. They are designed to
3:07:49
minimize the need for heating and cooling. Heat pumps extract
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the warmth from grey water that is from showers, sinks and
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washing machine and use it to provide hot water around the
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site. Swipe left for more. I'm the theoretical list.
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John C Dvorak: I would like to make some commentary about this.
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Okay, first of all,
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Adam Curry: she sounds like a great mom.
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John C Dvorak: Sounds a great mom is going to help her to be
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drinking kombucha.
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Adam Curry: So you're not you're not a fan of the common?
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John C Dvorak: Well, you know, the great the great
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microbiologist that used to teach at Evergreen up in
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Washington who is now a freelancer says the problem with
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Kombucha is you don't know what's in it, and it
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Adam Curry: could kill you.
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John C Dvorak: Well, I don't know that it killed anybody, but
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it could give you all kinds of issues. I and most cambogia now
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it's just vinegar water. They don't even give you real Kim
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Bucha is because the thing that the mother that grows in it is a
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combination of weird stuff that is not it's not reproducible.
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That's a real problem. Oh, you
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Adam Curry: mean it's not? You can't reproduce it with
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accuracy.
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John C Dvorak: Right? Yeah, we can. Bucha is gonna be a little
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different. And it's going to be who knows where it's headed.
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It's not those are not friendly bacteria, necessarily,
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Adam Curry: you know what you should do? You should consider
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writing a book about this. You know, I was gonna do a book on
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vinegar.
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John C Dvorak: I'll get back to that.
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Unknown: My fellow New Yorkers, I have a confession to make. The
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truth is, this is hard to admit, but your mayor is mentally ill.
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I cannot take care of my own basic needs. No matter how much
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people try to help me. I absolutely refuse to eat meat.
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My Other symptoms include being a Democrat and illusions of
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swagger. So to demonstrate the effectiveness of my supporters
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interventions act, I'm gonna be the first mental patient to be
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involuntarily hospitalized under my own policies by all Personal
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police detail. They didn't arrest me. Oh, shoot. Man,
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you're under arrest. Y'all can't arrest me. I'm the mayor. Come
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with us, sir. No, I don't who wants to go and shift
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Adam Curry: yo MoPhO vorak.org/in a.
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John C Dvorak: Merci beaucoup.
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