May 18th, 2023 • 3h 10m
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John C Dvorak: Are you gonna
wear that?
Unknown: Adam curry?
Adam Curry: Jhansi Devora
1820 23 This is your award
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is no agenda, carrying zero
sealed indictments and
broadcasting live from the heart
of the Texas hill country here
in fingerings. And number six in
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry
John C Dvorak: from Northern
Silicon Valley where we're all
wondering why Princess Diana is
still in the news. I'm John C.
Dvorak. Buzzkill.
Adam Curry: That was of all the
things going on. I actually have
one article about that stupid
hoax. Megan Markel, and Harry
pulled off a bunch of hooey.
John C Dvorak: What's weird to
me is I was trying to get some
clips yesterday. And it's it was
the start. It was top of the
news. Of course, it was top of
the news on NBC back to real.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it was top of
the news, everybody.
John C Dvorak: First thing they
did, did the Durham report.
Forget it.
Adam Curry: Now? Why do that?
No, we've got Harry and Meghan
in a cab, which which has eerie
echoes of lady dies death. You
know what, you know what this
was? I'll just tell you right
now. Because you asked why is
she in the news? Six hours
before the the authorities in
the UK had once again reiterated
No, you are no longer Royals,
you don't carry out your duties,
you do not get protection, you
don't get a security detail. So
to prove how they need it, they
got into a yellow cab and drove
home from an event in New York.
And that's they were they were
chased for two hours. I lived in
Manhattan. This is not
happening. You know? Well, yeah.
I
John C Dvorak: have some of that
straightened out to correct some
of your misconceptions. Oh,
please. We really because
because TMZ devoted half their
show to this when they were Oh.
So what happened was they took
off in four big sedans. And they
were chased along the FDR which
they could do faster speeds. But
I don't know that FDR ends I
don't know they could do it for
two hours. And so they went to a
police department station and
said we need help from the
police department. They put him
in a taxi cab get
Adam Curry: in the cab, you
stupid Brett's
John C Dvorak: this was bull
crap from the get I mean, this
was I agree. 100% it's a hoax.
And I didn't have the you
Adam Curry: just said 100%.
Right in the first five minutes
of the show.
John C Dvorak: Thank you. Okay.
And so I'm going to I'm going to
agree as what your thesis, but I
had no idea of the Genesis, but
now I know. Yeah, you're right.
Adam Curry: Okay, so then what
you did not see on the
mainstream news was, was the
Durham report, long awaited long
awaited term report. Actually,
you did see it. If you're
watching. I think it's 300 pages
too. Yeah. And I read through
John C Dvorak: pretty much all
of it. It wasn't on CBS. It
wasn't on NBC. They talked about
this. Oh,
Adam Curry: it was on NBC. I
didn't see all the all the NBC
products had it. But would you
like would you like to first
hear the NBC products that were
outrage, or, and lies? Or would
you like to hear the France 24,
which had a surprisingly honest
report.
John C Dvorak: Oh, I'd rather
hear the lies from NBC.
Adam Curry: All right. Well,
let's start off with actually,
we'll start off with morning,
Joe.
Unknown: Thank you. This guy was
the longest serving Special
Counsel for years. And the
report offers us no new charges.
No new revelations, not even new
suggested rules for the FBI. I
mean, they were so horrible. She
didn't even suggest any new
rules. He also had
investigations into political
matters that he ended up
offering no advice on just more
bad writing and more bushing
posturing to Trumpers. And
Willie, he actually re litigated
cases that he lost in front of
the juries that he faced over
the last four years. Not any
convictions is another sad,
pathetic attempt to make suckers
and we remember this because we
showed their headlines. He
wanted to make suckers of pro
Trump cable news hosts and right
wing newspapers are already
getting burned huddling his lies
before. What was his goal? His
goal was to dramatic was to
trash premier law enforcement
organizations in America and
attack the men and women who
serve every day. It's Department
of Justice. The only good news
is, at least his four year
taxpayer funded boondoggle. It
was funded by working America
ins walk through the working
American lumpsum Trumpism is
over and Durham has nothing but
a tarnished reputation to show
for
Adam Curry: Durham as a
tarnished reputation. Let's do
the next
John C Dvorak: NBC check me for
a jump to the day you wanted
Adam Curry: to hear the lies
John C Dvorak: What is this
guy's problem?
Adam Curry: Well so the message
went out amongst NBC Universal
clearly by the
John C Dvorak: way and you did
this and this is not read to me
it's not NBC that's me.
Adam Curry: And I have an it's
an NBC product. Yes, it is an
MVC pen I have I have an actual
NBC product NBC News but first
let's do another Ms.
John C Dvorak: Go back I want to
know what is what was this guy
trying to accomplish here?
Adam Curry: Just to say there
was no there there was a big
nothing burger. That was so
pathetic. But that's that's what
they all did. Every single NBC
related report was pathetic like
this. I mean, there's some very
real statements in here. And
again, I think France 24 did a
pretty good job what but you
want you wanted to hear the lies
first. So let's go to Nicole
Wallace with Andrew Weissman on
to debunk this report together.
Unknown: Andrew Weissman,
Manafort, guilty or innocent in
a court of law Tilty gates
guilty he didn't lose gates
guilty or innocent. Roger Stone
guilty or innocent a quarter
lost guilty. Mike Flynn guilty
or innocence. He pled guilty so
many times.
Guilty, admitted he was guilty.
What's true and said to the
judge fault, I falsely said I
was guilty.
Papadopoulos and the sinner
Guilty, guilty. So
meet them out of their own
mouths or the jury
because the whole thing is
predicated on it's like a rabbit
hole conspiracy. That suggests
that the Trump bar paranoia
infected his ability to stand
back and evaluate whether the
probe yielded guilty convictions
of people who would have had
nothing to do with any of these
questions he looked at it is a
view from so far down the rabbit
hole that what needs a scrub
what needs some oversight is
what Mr. Durham did for four
years that repelled his longtime
prosecutorial partner, Nora
Dennehy and other high level DOJ
prosecutors so
Adam Curry: again, nothing
really about the report. Chest
this was ridiculous. There was
nothing there nothing to see NBC
News. I don't know who this guy
is. But um, MIT pretty much the
same, only a little more
coherent.
Unknown: It's an exhaustive look
at what the investigation code
name, crossfire hurricane, and
there are a lot of different
Adam Curry: this is true. That's
really what the report was about
was about crossfire hurricane.
And the conclusion overwhelming
from Durham was there was no
evidence to start this
investigation in the first
place. That is really the main
crux of his report,
Unknown: what the investigation
code name, crossfire hurricane,
and there are a lot of different
rabbit trails that this report
goes down. But I think
fundamentally, what it does is
it suggests that the FBI should
not have opened this
investigation in the first
place. And that, as you said, it
did so too hastily based on
uncorroborated information, and
that basically the FBI was
suckered by a bunch of people
with political agendas. Now the
problem with this thesis is that
it runs directly contradictory
to another independent report by
the Justice Department's
inspector general back in 2019,
which took an exhaustive look
and found that, in fact, there
was proper predication for this
investigation if the FBI acted
appropriately in opening it, and
also found no evidence, no
demonstrable evidence of
political bias and doing it now
obviously, one of the agents
involves a man named Peter
strock, who was found later
through text who have expressed
you know, the animus towards
Donald Trump. He's not a Donald
Trump fan.
Adam Curry: Remember? Do you
remember those texts? I think it
was a little more than not a
Donald Trump fan. It was great.
Totally out to get him
Unknown: to tend to miss towards
Donald Trump. He was not a
Donald Trump fan. But he was not
the only decision maker here.
There were others. And look,
there's a lot of different
aspects to this report of him.
One of the cases that Trump
tries to make is that
information about potential
counterintelligence threats
involving the Clinton campaign
was treated differently. But
what he doesn't address is the
context was so context who was
publicly asking the Russians to
find 30,000 missing emails, Bill
Clinton, who was expressing
admiration for Putin. That was
the context that Jerome really
doesn't address this report.
Look, the other thing is a lot
of policy changes, because there
were some serious flaws in how
the FBI approached particularly
its application for foreign
surveillance warrants and the
rules have been entirely
overhauled in that respect.
There's also a new rule it says
the Attorney General has to
prove any investigation into a
political candidate or political
campaign and a lot of people
would say that makes perfect
sense given the stakes here.
Ultimately, this investigation,
as everyone knows, did not find
formal coordination between the
Trump campaign and Russia. But
it found a series of troubling
contacts and a Senate,
Adam Curry: which is nothing in
the report. There's there's
nothing in the report about
troubling contacts I'll
Unknown: just committee report
bipartisan went even further and
said that these contacts pose a
counterintelligence threat to
the United States because the
Trump campaign essentially
opened their arms to help from
the Russians.
Adam Curry: I think you hear
what's going on here. Like Well,
there was another inspector
general's office to be ours.
It's it's they, they do a very
good job of this. I have to say
they do a great job of just
making it sound like there's
nothing in there and that
certainly was government had no
evidence to open crossfire
hurricane. Now, of course, he
didn't charge any anybody. You
know, I think there were like
three charges earlier, one, two
were exonerated, one got, you
know, slap on the wrist. The
former Intel officials, they
were promoting the whole steel
dossier, which is completely
torn apart as paid for paid for
by the Clinton campaign in the
report. None of this, of course,
is told nowhere actually. Key
Foreign Affairs official saw no
evidence Victoria Nealon Nuland
comes out smelling like a rose.
She said she told the Durham
team Oh, she never saw any US
government proof of the
allegations. By I don't even
remember hearing that to you. I
don't remember her say, well,
she just wants to make sure she
doesn't get any glue on her. The
Clinton campaign was behind the
whole thing. This is in the
report. And then yeah, but
that's covered over by the NBC
products as all those double
standards but no Trump he said
Putin helped me get the emails.
The opposites and research for
the firm fusion GPS was all paid
for they went to the media
before they went to the FBI, and
it's really all in there. But
yeah, there's no indictment. So
now therefore, nothing. You got
nothing. And even Jake Tapper,
this was 13 seconds that flew
around the internet, which is
suspected best because it's only
13 seconds and cut off but here
it is,
Unknown: regardless of the
report is now here. It has
dropped and it might not have
produced everything of what's
the Republicans vote for me. It
is regardless, devastating to
the FBI into a degree it does
exonerate Donald Trump.
Adam Curry: Whoa, Jake. Dewan.
Jake's a CIA guy. You see, we
know that because he was at the
birthday party of some, was it
the CIA director, not to the
system director. I think we
heard from our boots on the
ground. So he's a CIA guy, so he
doesn't have no problem given
the FBI. Here's France 24 Not a
Unknown: bad report just over
300 pages, detailing why the FBI
should never have launched a
full scale investigation into
Donald Trump's 2016 campaign
known as crossfire hurricane.
Special Counsel John Durham was
appointed by the Trump
administration back in 2019. To
review the origins of the probe
into links between Trump and
Russia. Key claims that FBI
personnel bias led to a
premature investigation.
Based on the evidence gathered
in the multiple exhaustive and
costly federal investigations of
these matters, including the
instance investigation. Neither
US law enforcement nor the
intelligence community appears
to have possessed any actual
evidence of collusion in their
holdings at the commencement of
the crossfire hurricane
investigation.
He's called on the Justice
Department to appoint a neutral
official to oversee politically
sensitive probes. The report
noted differences in the way the
FBI had handled the Trump
investigation compared to other
potential theories, like those
involving Hillary Clinton. But a
lot of the outlined concerns
aren't new, and had already been
published in a report by the
Justice Department Inspector
General back in 2019.
We found and as we outlined here
are deeply concerned that so
many basic and fundamental
errors were made by three
separate handpicked
investigative teams on one of
the most sensitive FBI
investigations.
In response to Durham's report
the FBI said it has already
implemented dozens of corrective
actions that have been in place
for some time. The findings have
provided Trump with some
ammunition as he plans to run
for re election in 2024 amid a
number of legal battles, but
dorms report is actually much
milder than many may have been
expecting after Trump predicted
a sweeping purge of the Bureau.
While mistakes were revealed,
Durham hasn't unveiled any new
prosecutions and included no
recommendations for further
reforms to the FBI.
Adam Curry: I think that's
pretty honest. That report Yeah,
pretty good. I've heard now This
leaves only one one person kind
of hanging out there in the
lurch. And he's now calling for
prosecution of those who lied on
the steel dossier. And that will
be Adam Schiff, who, of course,
we need to supercut for a moment
to remind everybody what he was
saying throughout this whole
process. Yes,
Unknown: what evidence we have
seen to date, what evidence we
have seen in terms of the
Russian hacking and dumping
operation, what evidence we have
seen in terms of the Russian
social media campaign, their
paid media campaign. And yes,
the issue of collusion with the
Trump campaign, there is
significant evidence, much of it
in the public domain on the
issue of collusion want
to get to the point of what
collusion is, is sort of what
hasn't been proven here between
whatever the Russians did, and
the Trump campaign. In fact, the
former acting director of the
CIA, who was a mike Morel, who
was a supporter of Hillary
Clinton, he essentially reminded
people took Director Clapper at
his word on this show, who said,
there has been no evidence that
has been found of collusion, or
Adam Curry: I love this Devorah
schism, this throwing the no
evidence out there. This is
good. Still took the right
you're picking it up? Yeah.
Unknown: But his word on this
show who said there has been no
evidence that has been found of
collusion? Are we at the point
of at what point? Do you start
to wonder if there is a fire to
all this smoke? Well, first of
all, I
was surprised to see Director
Clapper say that because I don't
think you can make that claim
categorically as it did. I would
characterize it this way at the
outset of the investigation.
There was circumstantial
evidence of collusion. And I
think
it's a circuit all you have
right now is a circumstantial
case.
Actually, no, Chuck, I can tell
you cases more than that. And I
can't go into the particulars.
But there was more than
circumstantial evidence now
says, again, I think Do
you have seen direct
evidence of collusion? I don't
want to go into specifics. But I
will say that there is evidence
that is not circumstantial, and
and is very much worthy of
investigation. So can you
agree that there has been no
evidence of collusion,
coordination, or conspiracy that
has been presented thus far
between the Trump campaign and
Russia?
No, I don't agree with that at
all. I think there's plenty of
evidence of collusion or
conspiracy in plain sight.
So I think at this point in
time, it's really difficult for
me and many Americans to
differentiate between what is
overhype and what isn't. You've
said on more than one occasion
that you've seen ample evidence
of the Trump campaigns Russia
collusion. Last March, you said
you had more than circumstantial
evidence of treasonous collusion
with Russia. What specifically
were you referring to? And
please be specific, because if
it's true, I do believe
Americans have the right. Well,
I've certainly
certainly said that there's
ample evidence.
Adam Curry: The guy is just a
liar. And so now all we have to
go after the people who lied on
the Steel report, which
John C Dvorak: was Schiff shifts
who who's going to be the next
US senator? For California?
Yeah. Is a stooge for the
Chinese Communist Party, as is
his cohort. Swalwell. California
is loaded with these guys. Yeah,
man. Y'all, y'all, we can't get
rid of them. Because the
California Voter is so stupid.
They can't they can't. They
can't say hey, this guy is a
liar. Why am I voting for him?
No. Vote for him as a vote for I
mean, as far as I'm concerned,
if you're a Democrat, you should
be voting for Barbara Lee.
Barbara Lee, the socialists from
Berkeley is at least as her own
socialist, she doesn't work for
the Chinese Communist Party.
She's not a phony. She's
definitely not a phony. And she
has, you know, unless what has
to happen in California, just
for people that are trying to
keep tabs on this is Feinstein
who looks like a physical wreck.
Adam Curry: She's has to
respond. She's doing great. She
says, she can't
John C Dvorak: even open one I
actually, she needs to resign.
And then Newsom has to have the
courage to replace her with
Barbara Lee, who then becomes
the incumbent, but he won't,
it's going to be very difficult
for him to do with all the
pressure from the bad actors
like Schiff.
Adam Curry: Well, let's stick
with China for a moment. You
probably heard the news that
Montana finally pulled the
trigger.
Unknown: Montana has become the
first state to enact a complete
ban on Tik Tok. The governor
there signed that bill today.
The measure is set to take
effect on January 1, the law
bans downloads of Tik Tok in the
state and would find any quote
entity like your phone's App
Store
or Tick Tock $10,000 per day for
each time someone is offered the
ability to access those
penalties would not apply to
users. The move is expected to
be challenged legally with a
tick tock spokesperson arguing
it infringes on people's first
amendment rights.
Adam Curry: So of course, this
is this is phenomenally funny.
So the Apple and Google Play app
stores will not be allowed To
offer these tick tock for
download, you can use it if you
got it if you side loaded or if
you use the web browser, I guess
this isn't such a bullcrap
John C Dvorak: illegal, illegal,
totally legal, and it'll be
thrown at it within a week.
Adam Curry: Well, but here's the
cool stuff. So one of the one of
the senators who was pushing
this restrict act is Warner
Democrat from Where's Warner
from?
John C Dvorak: Are you talking
about the national Act this
year?
Adam Curry: No, but I'm just
this Montana is, you know, their
broader game, I
John C Dvorak: think Warner
Sure, Virginia. But I'd have to
look it up. I'm not sure.
Adam Curry: So Warner is one of
the sponsors, one of the authors
of the Restrict Act, which as we
know, has been kind of touted as
a patriot 2.0 act. But it's all
based upon this endless
conversation about tick tock
spying on tick tock, the Chinese
Communist Party that all your
data unlike any other app in the
App Store, but unlike anything
from Facebook, or Instagram, or
any any other myriad of social
networks. No, no, no, it's only
tick tock. And of course, they
are going to influence the
American children into hating
the country. You don't need tick
tock.
John C Dvorak: You just need our
grammar schools. That's right.
Just
Adam Curry: just what I'm into
school. But as we always know,
when people get on a podcast,
particularly it if you know
what's coming, particularly
politicians and people of other
public ilk. It's like they take
a stab at
John C Dvorak: what happened?
Yeah, they go, Oh, it's
Adam Curry: just a podcast. I
can say whatever I want. Now,
this happened to be the award
winning pivot podcast, where
Warner was asked about the
Restrict act and Kara Swisher
drilled and grilled him and
Moon, what do we know?
Unknown: This is not just
Americans. Canada has banned
tick tock EU, the Brits,
Australians, the Indians have
banded out the other governments
abandoned just in terms of their
governmental use in the BBC. Not
exactly some, you know, not
progressive leaning groups have
basically told all their
journalists get off Tik Tok
because chances are you're
getting monitored. Yeah. So the
proof you you're the head of the
Senate Intelligence Committee.
I'm
guessing you've seen the proof.
I can tell you this. There is a
reason why every law enforcement
entity it's reason why the armed
forces the reasons why every one
of our 17 intelligence agencies
think that tick tock is a
national security rush. What's
the reason? Can we see
I'm not gonna go on? Let's pass
the bill and then they still
gotta make the case of liberty
until committed would have to
then declassify I can't think I
can't do magically declassify
right now but you feel there's
ample proof let me be Oh my God,
let me not act like you eat at
the absolute smoking done. Most
of this potential abuse, not
current and not current abuse.
Adam Curry: Potential not
current abuse. What a bunch of
liars. The act like is happening
all the time. Like oh, China's
stealing our data. No, no, this
is all for potential. Not
current abuse. I mean, this is
why pivot is the award winning
technology podcast.
John C Dvorak: They never talk
about technology.
Adam Curry: No. Well, they
consider this to be a technology
conversation. I guess. But yeah,
so as we know this is partially
just to give meta and then
John C Dvorak: they don't get
they get a break from these
advertise these guys are killing
them. They
Adam Curry: really is
outrageous. I mean, even what
was I mean, anything that's
happening these days, it's on
Tik Tok. It's not on YouTube.
People aren't streaming live on
Facebook anymore. All all the
good stuff is all on tick tock.
Be right away. Boom. People are
recording stuff. Oops, put it
out there. What was the they're
filming the new movie Twister,
forget where they were filming
it. And there was already
John C Dvorak: a movie twist.
Oh,
Adam Curry: this is Twister
five. Not a single back. You
know, they're doing it on
streets of Oklahoma. I don't I
forgot where it is. So I'm gonna
email me about it. So there's
not a single video on on
Facebook or on the no real no
real is all on tick tock. This
is where everyone's going. So
yeah, they're all part of this.
It's also you know, the, the
political part is, you know,
China, let's get China to get
China.
John C Dvorak: You know, I'd
like to see a discussion on
something a little more
important than this. They are
stealing all our data. And the
conversation should be about how
they hell did all these hot
shots in Silicon Valley, who had
tried stuff with vine and others
these other ideas of short
videos How did they have their
overnight almost have their
asses handed to him by a Chinese
company called tick tock or by
the company that runs tick tock,
just out of the blue, and then I
can't now they can't even
compete with them. How does that
work? That that's the most
important question. Why we're
supposed to be the big leaders
in technology.
Adam Curry: I think the answer
is simple. That all the good
stuff you know, the the tech
company American tech companies
have the government so deep up
their arses that Oh, no, you got
to take that off. Oh, no, that's
insulting. Oh, no, that's
misinformation and Tik Tok had
none of that there's like no go
away we're gonna get post all
this stuff and they they weren't
using the the American media
model which is always you know,
ball get to people pitted
against each other. Yeah, that's
great. Get them fighting online.
Now the TIC tock but now you get
all this stuff and all you
people go over there. Hey, you
got pink hair, bad trends over
here. It's great. We've
deconstructed curries. Peach,
peach. That's right. Freeze.
Peach is what it's all about.
But there is a new, a new
boondoggle. This is the AI
conversation. I watched three
hours of this of this hearing,
which was led by Blumenthal,
Blumenthal. And had Holly as the
as the minority leader, I guess
is what they call it. So he's
the other side. Just they're
sitting next to each other and
they had three people. They had
some lady who is she's already
have you on? Oh, it would be
fun. She had some lady who's in
government was already in there
like she's some from some Office
of Technology safety. Something
that nobody cares about useless
job. They had Sam Altman who is
the CEO of of open AI, and he
has he's there for very specific
Miss mission, which we'll find
out. It's very, it's very, this
is such an easy one to
deconstruct. And then they have
a third guy. The third guy they
had there was Gary Marcus. You
know who Gary Marcus's
John C Dvorak: name rings a
bell, but I don't know who
Adam Curry: it is. He is the guy
that he sold his geometric
intelligence, machine learning
startup to Uber. He also started
the company that the CO invented
Roomba. No real high level AI
type style robot. This Yes. Hi,
robot. Exactly. That's this guy.
And so he I guess it was that
he's clearly a stooge. He's,
he's a psychologist. And he
writes books. What are his
books? Guitar zero. Cluj? So
he's a stooge in there just to
say, oh, yeah, it's very
dangerous. Oh, it's incredibly
dangerous. So three, these three
people, there's no one from
barf. There's no one from
Microsoft, who of course have
who run this whole, you know,
who run everything on there as
your platform. And then you have
this Sam guy that you know, who
as we know, takes almost no
regular small salary has no
stock in the company. He's just
doing this because he likes it.
He likes his job. What a bunch
of crap that is. So Blumenthal
opens up with a couple like I
have 30 seconds. And then he
does this. Our goal is
Unknown: to demystify and hold
accountable those new
technologies to avoid some of
the mistakes of the past. Right,
what now, for some introductory
remarks, too often, we've seen
what happens when technology
outpaces regulation, like why
unbridled exploitation of
personal data, the proliferation
of disinformation and the
deepening of societal
inequalities. We have seen how
algorithmic biases can
perpetuate discrimination and
prejudice, and how the lack of
transparency can undermine
public trust. This is not the
future we want. If you were
listening from home, you might
have thought that voice was
mine. No words from me, but in
fact, that voice was not mine.
The words were not mine. And the
audio was an AI voice cloning
software trained on my floor
speeches. The remarks were
written by chat GBT when it was
asked how I would open this
hearing. And you heard just Now
the result. I asked chat GPT Why
did you pick those themes and
that content? And it answered,
and I'm quoting, Blumenthal has
a strong record in advocating
for consumer protection and
civil rights. He has been vocal
about issues such as data
privacy,
John C Dvorak: blowing his own
horn,
Unknown: the potential for
discrimination and algorithmic
decision making. Therefore, the
statement emphasizes these
aspects,
Adam Curry: this is how these
Jamocha literally went into this
hearing. Boy, it's a magical
box, a took just Mike my clearly
very patriotic stance against
horrible technology, it
recreated my voice, and then
it's so true. Chechi beauty is
magic. It's very dangerous,
because you know, could put us
out of work.
John C Dvorak: Work we wish
Adam Curry: and they just went
on and on and on with all this
stuff. Oh, it's both it's out of
control. Now, this was for one
thing and one thing only they
want regulation and they want
reg just like they want
regulation against tick tock so
that they can actually build
their little moat around the
technology. And I'll get to that
in a moment after we hear this
CBS report today on Capitol
Unknown: Hill, members of the
Senate Judiciary Committee grill
the head of the artificial
intelligence company that makes
chat GPT on the dangers posed by
the quickly evolving technology.
CBS Scott McFarlane reports. The
hearing comes as lawmakers
debate new rules aimed at
regulating AI
and accompanies a Senate hearing
on artificial intelligence began
artificially too often.
We have seen what happens when
technology outpaces regulation.
The chairman played an AI
generated version of his own
voice and words pretty
impressive. Sam Altman who
operates the virally successful
Chad GPT compared new advances
in AI to the invention of the
printing press, but acknowledge
the risk.
Adam Curry: I think if this How
many times have we not heard,
this is as big as the printing
press. How many times we heard
that from from Congress 100
times. Blogs are as important as
the printing press. Podcasts are
as important invention as the
printing press. Social networks
are as important in invention as
the printing press. Gutenberg is
rolling in his grave
Unknown: invention of the
printing press. But acknowledge
the risk.
I think if this technology goes
wrong, it can go quite wrong.
Congress is concerned at risks
waiting too long to pass laws to
govern AI after failing years
ago to set safety rules for
social media. We should
be concerned for our privacy, we
should be concerned for our
liberty. And we should be
concerned for our control over
our lives from the
even the industry itself is
urging Congress to create safety
rules potentially requiring
government approval for future
AI innovations. More
congressional hearings and AI
are set for later this week. In
the meantime, some of the ideas
floated include government
safety labels for AI technology,
and Nora federal agency to
license and police the industry.
Adam Curry: There you go. So
they want licensing policing.
They want complete protection
the same way. Now, I have some
idea. Here's
John C Dvorak: a here's a short
clip from a elegir zero AI
regulation.
Adam Curry: Oh, good. I'm glad
you have something
Unknown: that the head of the
company that created chat GPT
has warned us senators that
artificial intelligence needs
regulation. Sam Altman says it's
essential to curb the risks by
increasingly powerful AI as
Congress is assessing possible
threats, including potential
manipulation of the 2020
election.
Adam Curry: Well, of course, of
course.
John C Dvorak: Did you hear
that? Oh, no.
Adam Curry: This is all over
this all over the here. It's
just just
John C Dvorak: in case Trump
wins. Yeah. manipulated
Adam Curry: AI manipulation.
Chad GPT. That made us lose. It
gets biased. It's biased. I tell
you it's bias.
John C Dvorak: This happened
before the 2016 election. It
happened before the 2020
election. They put all these
things in place. Google led the
denial during the tweet after
the 2016 elections that Trump
won is completely forgotten by
the mainstream media went on for
for it till this day.
Adam Curry: All right. So let me
just give you a little overview.
I did not spend the three days
in between shows putting Chad
GPT on my Pixel, although I do
believe I do believe that will
be possible. And we have many
dudes named Ben who have chimed
in and said, Oh, yeah, you can
totally run it on your own
hardware. But here's what I've
learned because I've learned
some things this is important
than doing anything but you can
run it. No, it actually does.
Here, here's why everything went
wrong. It was and I think this
is a genius play and you'll like
this a genius play by Zuckerberg
because it was meta who open
source their AI now with that
when I say AI in this As I'm
talking about the large language
model, this is not the training
part, this is the part that
interprets language knows what,
what your can interpret what
you're saying, based upon this
model of words, and then can
also speak back to you in some
form of human voice based upon
this large model. Stanford then
took this and they started to
create something that people
could actually use at home. I'm
cutting a lot of corners here.
So I went from LL M, the large
language model to llama to Al
pakka to doll, Dolly as in Dalai
Lama, an n people were off to
the races, they could create all
kinds of language
interpretation. Now, the what
what is interesting about this
technology is that we're used to
cost $5 million to teach one of
these models, give them
information, and all right now
process it. So the can take
questions and feedback answers,
that price has come down to
about $500, in literally in the
last six months. And people are
now spreading it amongst their
own CPUs, open source. And you
can definitely make very
specific chat GPT type chat
bots, as they're calling it now
that we can either write code or
in fact, anyone who wants to do
it on and I'd love to see this.
We have all no agenda show notes
going back a decade, which are
all XML structured data so that
you literally could do that with
the articles in the show notes
and the links and the
transcripts that we have. And
that's the what, oh, so that you
could ask questions of it from
the no agenda knowledge base,
and it would answer based upon
the training from the articles
and the transcripts that we have
collected over 10 years. That's
what it would do. We could train
it to do that.
John C Dvorak: Okay, so that
we're we're gonna be stored.
Adam Curry: It'll fit in that
it'll fit in six gigabytes on a
server. We're on the same page,
John, so don't fight me because
I'm agreeing with you. But I'm
telling you the backstory as to
why Google and Bing and others
are going to fail at doing it
any of this because exactly what
you point out. If you want to
have this a search engine, be
able to answer all questions of
the universe, there's no way it
will ever get will there's no
business model for them in the
universe that will work at a
consumer level, too much power,
too much crunching too much
information. But for businesses,
individuals, you can definitely
load this up and you can do it
in your in your accounting
office for certain IRS
regulations, you can definitely
use this and there is no
protection for Silicon Valley
and is my belief that Zuckerberg
made this available, and then
somehow sparked this arms race,
because Google was really caught
on the backfoot on this, and
everyone's running around trying
to create great stuff. Oh, it's
the new blockchain and they're
failing left and right shit
doesn't work. It has answers
wrong which they call
hallucination. I think Facebook
now swings left or does
something that you know Zig
where everyone else is zagging
and they take some market share.
I mean, it's so obvious that
this was a purposeful action. To
make everybody run around with
the with the world this is the
all that's all that they can
talk about on CNBC oh ay ay ay
ay ay ay ay ay ay ay. Oh, what
companies can be using AI. And
Google has nothing. Being really
has nothing. It doesn't work.
But the actual technology
John C Dvorak: like the
blockchain analogy,
Adam Curry: that's what it is.
So the but the actual technology
now that this the language model
is and is only English, by the
way doesn't work in in French,
as far as I know. I don't think
it's been done yet. It's a total
cloud of bullcrap. Total. And
now what they want is labels and
a government agency and anything
so they can gain some
competitive edge. And I think
they're going to fail just like
the failing with tick tock.
nimbo the Restrict act? Oh,
yeah. Oh, yo, boo, boo Ramnath
through this not really
happening. So this is this is a
an albatross, particularly for
Google. And I kind of like that.
That's funny. Well,
John C Dvorak: Google's not a
bunch of dummies. So I think
there'll be some sort of a
counter attack here. Well, we'll
Adam Curry: keep our eye on it.
But right now, the only business
Chad GPT seems to be putting out
of business is Google. They're
reallocating all their resources
for something that everyone is
sitting on, but this sucks. So
maybe if you get a rush Get
through Oh, we have to have
Google it has to be the approved
AI for the 2024 election, I can
see that I can see that work in
form, but not much else. And
meanwhile, here's how artificial
intelligence is actually doing
in the real world. It's great A
car stopped in the middle of the
street blocking emergency
responders, another getting very
close to a city bus. This one
seemingly confused by road
construction and frozen in his
tracks
Unknown: finally stopped right
before falling into a hole. Some
robot
Adam Curry: drivers and training
do not seem to have learned all
the rules of the road.
Unknown: I'm seeing at least one
incident a day now with
autonomous vehicles.
Adam Curry: For years the city
by the bay has served as the
testing ground for a fleet of
Robo taxis from Google's Waymo
and GMs. Crews. Driverless cars
you can hail with a touch of a
button. But when things go
wrong, they are a traffic
nightmare and posing real
roadblocks for first responders.
Unknown: The autonomous vehicle
just like came in blocked him in
Adam Curry: fire chief Janine
Nicholson's people say without a
driver at the wheel. robot cars
often make the wrong choice
around fire trucks.
Unknown: They stop in the middle
of the street and turn their
emergency blinkers on anytime
they see flashing lights on an
emergency Miko.
Adam Curry: Firefighters
describe driverless cars rolling
into fire scenes running over
hoses even having to break
windshields to stop a vehicle.
Unknown: The technology is not
ready for primetime.
Director of Transportation here
says 911 calls about robot cars
have tripled in the last year.
But here's the
thing. We have no regulatory
authority over them whatsoever,
even though it's your city
that's being affected. That's
right. It's our city and our
streets. But the state of
California has preempted
municipal authority over
autonomous vehicles. Unlike
taxis or scooters,
Adam Curry: Wei mo says robot
drivers are on their way to
being safer than humans. After
all, more than 42,000 Americans
died in vehicle accidents last
year. When are we going to stop
being stupid? Particularly in
California this is this is where
the Californians are stupid.
They let that stuff on their
streets. Yeah. I mean, it's it's
insane.
John C Dvorak: But oh, no,
somebody's got to do it. Yeah,
Adam Curry: but AI is gonna AI
we need legislation for me to
get these cars out there driving
all over the place. You gotta
smash the window to stop it.
Yeah. Is that not also AI?
Unknown: It's totally.
Adam Curry: Let's do one more. I
got a short clip here.
Unknown: We have very infrequent
events that occur that they do
get a lot of attention.
They say it's 3911 calls a day
about autonomous vehicles. That
doesn't sound infrequent, but I
have to say
what I mean is relative to the
number of miles that we drive
and relative to the number of
emergency vehicle contacts that
we face on a day to day basis,
Adam Curry: we most Chief Safety
Officer says that every mile of
millions driven in California
and Arizona teaches the whole
fleet new skills and the company
is expanding service here LA is
next
Unknown: we hope to increase the
number of rides 10x by next
summer a 10
fold expansion of autonomous
vehicles here in San Francisco
would have a dramatic impact on
congestion it would result in
significant delays to our
transit system and to emergency
vehicle
response time and it might even
cause a threat to
safety to hear us la
yes
Adam Curry: la We're coming for
you should let it loose on Skid
Row oh I'm sorry We mowed all
the tents down
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's a
these reports are a dead
prevalent around here. No they
usually have only the one where
the guy dies
Adam Curry: now just blocking
traffic and stuff no one talks
about it well they don't talk
about anything in San Francisco.
No doubt about all your all the
stores closing
John C Dvorak: so they talk
about the stores closing believe
me now they do and although
there's a bunch of my favorite
thing is did people out there
should notice this is a news
deconstruction little moment. It
goes the Liberals go just the
stores are closing because the
rents are too high and they just
want to get a better price for
their rents it's a scam because
if you look at wait right if you
look at the debt the at the at
the crime statistics crime is
way down. It's way down. Just
look at the statistics. So this
is a scam okay? That's bullcrap.
Statistics are down for a simple
reason. There's no policing
there's no reporting of crimes
right people don't call it in.
shoplifting is not reported as a
crime anymore. So does crime is
way down. No. These stores are
being are being robbed left and
right. We just had a guy shot
some some poor security guards
shot some shoplifted I was
trying to get out of there. And
there's luckily the new DA is
saying it sitting on the side of
the security guard. Although the
entire city council is making a
big fuss this guy should be in
jail for murder. And even though
it would deck kind of things
should be in the public domain.
So the shoppers don't think they
can just come in, which is what
they're doing. They're just
coming in and raiding these
places stealing everything that
they can get their hands on,
because of I think it was
there's some law that was passed
statewide that said that crimes
under that result and under
$1,000 In theft under any
circumstances a misdemeanor, you
can't make it a felony. And that
law has ruined the state and
they don't know what to do about
it. So nobody's reporting these
crimes. Thus crime is down.
crime is down, because nothing's
being reported. That's why it's
down. It's bullcrap.
Adam Curry: I was kind of
shocked to read this morning.
You know, I lived in we lived in
Jersey for good 910 years. And
does the swanky mall, the kind
of the Rodeo Drive of the area,
which was not not our mall, we
had the Willowbrook Mall. But
sometimes we drive to the Short
Hills Mall. Well, masked men
steal $125,000 In Dior handbags
from the Short Hills Mall. This
is 20 miles outside of New York
City. Yeah, this is crazy. By
the way, that's only I think,
three handbags from New York
probably who knows how expensive
those things are. But you know,
this is this is a this is a
reset of sorts. Really is.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you go soft
on crime. Yeah. With these
ideas, oh, well, we just
desperately needed some help any
counseling. These ideas and the
criminals take advantage of it.
I mean, there are people that
are that like, enjoy being
criminals. I just you know, it's
no one wants to accept the
simple fact. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So, so this whole
this whole past week. There's
just been text groups going
around and around
Fredericksburg. And I've seen
this universally on email.
Buses, they're busing them in
they're doing the buses to bring
them in from the border in the
middle of the night. You don't
know what you're talking about.
When we looked at the border
cameras, there's nothing going
on zero. Does not steal. But
this is very typical of what I
get boots on the ground report.
I was just on the Arizona border
this week and family members
it's always friend family
members. Someone else explained
to me what the video cameras are
showing low traffic and no one
the gum coming through the
border. It's simple. They're
busing the illegals over the
border and during the dead of
night. Family members see
illegals hiking the canyons,
then being bused out from
midnight. And where are the
video you need to turn your
speaker's down a little bit.
Where are the videos? Where are
the videos of this? They dropped
them off somewhere these I've
heard they're white buses. This
is what's gotten out luckily we
have a report from Sir Lucifer
who actually went boots on the
ground I think you might with an
Owen Shroyer and they all that
was a very funny video. He's
he's doing a very good Alex
Young Alex Jones. Of course he
works for Infowars you know
yelling about you dirty
Americans, you know you're not
allowed to see this. I mean,
he's doing a great job. But all
they had was video of one bus.
So here's sort of Lucifer as
boots on the ground. He said our
team arrived at El Paso
Wednesday, June 10. So he was
ready for the whole thing for
the 11th, the 12th, etc. Our
first stop was the Sacred Heart
church two days before we
arrived, there was a video of
over 2000 migrants living around
the church when we arrived there
were barely 100 Where did all
these migrants go? Their
disappearance seemed to coincide
with the masses of national and
local media that arrived in El
Paso on Wednesday, June 10. One
of the local things and most of
the migrants at Sacred Heart
were brought to a military base
in New Mexico, another fine one
that was used for Afghan
migrants during the withdrawal.
Our security was alerted to the
numerous neck tattoos on some of
the young male immigrants, which
indicated they're part of a
gang, most likely released from
prison, and we counted 15 of
these neck tattoos. 99% of the
people we saw are from
Venezuela. And these are the
people who were put onto a bus
and they spend most of their
time between border gates 40 and
42. And the scene was like what
was heard in the NTD report from
the previous show? Yes, National
Guard was there. Yes, they said
a barbed wire. But we also have
video of them assisting Border
Patrol and processing migrants
not keeping them from entering
the country. But it really was
nothing. There's nothing that
had one one bus and then you
know the Border Patrol backed up
trucks he couldn't see who was
getting onto the bus. I'm going
to presume that presumed that
might have been some gang
members or whatever. But there's
just no evidence and what goes
around here and this is what I
hate about it because it's
political. You're all being spun
up. This was the favorite one
that Tina was put on this
thread. illegal alien fracking
map shows movement of the mass
of illegals across the US 71%
end up in Republican districts
and there's this and the cell
phone map on the front page
here. They say all you see Yeah,
we tracked all the cell phones
and then they're all moving from
the border and I'm until you
know me I like whoa, let me see
what's going on where do they
get the cell phone data from?
Well, this is in fact from cell
phone data that is also not
explained where it was acquired
from from the Heritage
Foundation from January 1 2022.
So the just rehashing stuff and
people are going insane there
are people here in
Fredericksburg going sending
text messages based upon this
this story.
John C Dvorak: Lucky over a year
and a half old yes lock
Adam Curry: your doors be armed
at all times. And this is
spinning people up into oblivion
the going nuts. Yeah, it's
really and this is bad. And this
is all political. And I think
it's really to me it's the
Republicans who are doing this
stuff. They are doing this they
want to be they want to make
Biden look bad. Not that any of
you know the
John C Dvorak: thing is that
this thing this this whole title
40 Tuesday was a you know is
going to was a bust. Yeah. Yeah,
it was a bust and they were
prepared for it not to be a
bust. And so that well what are
we going to do? It's a bust
nobody's coming over didn't did
the big throngs aren't showing
up. What are we going to do? I
don't know this run out the same
playbook anyway.
Adam Curry: Exactly what they
did exactly what they did. And
they make him people crazy. And
then and what are these outfits?
What is this? Your news.com? Who
runs this outfit? And they
literally have Fredericksburg,
Texas, tu tu, tu tu tu tu do you
put in your zip code? The
Heritage oversight project and
date. And this was just some
very sketchy data they had. I'm
not saying that there isn't a
problem at all. But come on
people. Let's not get all riled
up. You're right. And, and also
now we have we saw it in
Chicago. Oh, they're coming but
they haven't come yet. By the
way, that South Shore project.
That's gonna be real nice when
people sell because they think
that they need to move for the
migrants. That's gonna be a nice
piece of real estate.
John C Dvorak: Yes, a real
estate scam. And part of it is
Adam Curry: and in New York.
Well, the mayor, I mean, he's
going crazy. Oh, but what are we
can have on they're putting.
They're preparing the migrants
to go into school gymnasiums.
And I haven't actually seen the
migrants in the gymnasiums yet.
But everyone's doing
John C Dvorak: some tuning Jim
nations have J had him in some
gymnasiums, because it was
shown. They had the video and
then they rousted them. And then
they tried to move them off to
the county discovered pretty
adequately by the national news,
okay, but it's not. It's not
what what they don't know what
to do in New York because New
York, the big hotshot sanctuary
city can't really take the
influx of these people. No,
there in fact, there's one
report where they're moving. And
this turns out to be just a
physical, a monetary thing.
They're moving homeless veterans
out of some of the hotels in New
York and moving the migrants in
the migrants in because the
homeless veterans were they were
paying the hotels $99 A night,
but the the migrants get 199 So
the homeless veterans are ousted
is the way that this was
reported. I think rants are one
of these east west coast guys
did this. The the homeless
veterans are kicked out for the
migrants because there's more
money
Adam Curry: another 100 bucks
extra. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: I mean, what
would you do, though?
Adam Curry: But besides that, I
think it's it's all political on
all sides, what's going on? All
In fact, everything is all about
the 2024 election. Every day the
news media has completely
capitulated they're just taking
any talking points from anybody
that I don't think they even
have enough money to do
reporting anymore. I don't think
doesn't it doesn't appear to be
that
John C Dvorak: way. Well,
they're not doing it whatever
the case of most of the I mean,
all my I have a lot of overseas
stuff here. That's that's not
being reported at all. I mean,
the Durham report. misreporting
is one thing, but just not just
leaving complete things. Let me
play a couple clip. Yeah,
please. play this clip. Did you
know this was going on? This is
the yikes clip. Well,
Adam Curry: just from the title
of the clip, I have no idea
Unknown: on the French President
Nicolas Sarkozy has lost an
appeal against his conviction
for corruption. Why according
Paris upheld his three year
prison sentence, but two of the
years have been suspended. And
the court said he could serve
the third by wearing an
electronic bracelet. So Sarkozy,
his lawyers repeated his claim
of innocence
Adam Curry: jokes, indeed,
John C Dvorak: when I said, Did
you know that that Sarkozy was
being imprisoned?
Adam Curry: I knew he was in
trouble, but what on earth for
that he would go to jail.
John C Dvorak: This is not being
reported at all in this country.
Now, I have to wonder why is it
because it was? Well, it's
because then you, you know, we
should be arresting Trump. I
mean, it's got something to do
with politics in this country
that that story has been
repressed is a good story.
Adam Curry: Yeah. It's a very
good story. But what did he do?
John C Dvorak: Corruption of
some sort? Who knows? I mean,
it's been could have been some
trumped up stuff like we've had
here in this country.
Adam Curry: corruption and
influence peddling. Oh, brother.
Oh, no, we can't have that
because that would put Biden
front and center. That's how
you'd have to report it.
President Biden has also been
accused.
John C Dvorak: Of influenced by
peddling Yes, literally, because
of his kid,
Adam Curry: literally influence
pet allow him all kinds of other
beautiful stuff when he was vice
president.
John C Dvorak: So does that the
reason you think that they would
suppress the Sarkozy story?
Because it would, it would not
look favorably on Biden. I mean,
your images are ridiculous. When
I heard this story. I got it on
Al Jazeera. I was befuddled. I
didn't know this was going on.
Adam Curry: You're mistaking the
news organizations in the United
States for news organizations?
What what do you think? Of
course, they don't care. There's
not been no longer
John C Dvorak: care. That's the
point. Well, they care about
protecting Biden, or whoever
tells them to do what or whoever
tells him whatever they're told
to do,
Adam Curry: except for the Wall
Street Journal. I will I will
read the headline. If Biden
boughs out. How about Michelle
Obama?
John C Dvorak: This is we're
bringing up old ideas. And I
want to play that this is a clip
from Glenn Beck he had some of
you had mentioned on the
network. You knew Rodriguez.
Felix Rodriguez. Yeah, is where
he is. And I just want to play
this. It's the JFK story on
back.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, this, this
is fantastic. Let me just give
you some background of Felix
Rodriguez. So my uncle Don, who
was then his station chief in
Vietnam, is very, very fond of
Felix Rodriguez. They talk every
Christmas sometimes one or two
times throughout the year, they
still chat. And the story then
Don would love to tell stories
about how cool Felix was.
Because he would literally show
up to the Christmas party,
dressed in his combat fatigues
with hand grenades strapped to
his belt, just to have a quick
little eggnog and then go back
to the front or whatever the
heck he was doing. Which I think
is great. That'd be laughing at
his muddy boots. But then he was
implicated in Iran Contra, to
which I totally believe neither
of them were any part of and
this is like some $10 million
payment that supposedly
Rodriguez got. And it was an
interesting story. And it was
more about the Bay of Pigs and
stuff on on Beckwith interesting
guy and Rodriguez gotta be up
near the 90s Now, I think.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he's pretty
old to him. But he did make a
little comment I want to reflect
on I heard this. It was good.
Kennedy was different than his
brother. He seemed
Unknown: like a decent guy. When
we were
working the operation Central
America was our team in Costa
Rica, Nicaragua, fruman rates
against Cuba. In 6465. Bobby
Kennedy was word liaison between
us and the CIA for that
operation. And when the
President was assassinated, our
teammate went to see him in
Washington, the first toward he
talking, said my brother had two
big enemies, the mafia and Fidel
Castro. I believe it was the
last one who assassinated what
John C Dvorak: so he says he
thinks and he put this in so
somebody sent me this of course,
singling you know, you think the
mob did it? I didn't. I don't
know who did it. Who killed
Kennedy. But the mob is looks
like the best bet as far as I'm
concerned, having heard all
these different stories, and I
refer people to he says it was
he thought was the Cubans? I
don't think so. And I'll tell
you why. And I refer to a link
in the show notes to Spartacus
educational XLink of the death
of witnesses connected to the
assassination of John F.
Kennedy. And it includes a
number of people who were who
this estimations didn't work and
they went to the authority
saying that these mafia guys are
trying to move the mob is trying
to kill me. And it's the mob who
does clean up because you know,
if anyone wants to go watch the
movie casino and watch the white
take a chance segment of that
film where they start killing
guys left and right because
there may be, I don't know, a
witness left over. The Cubans
didn't have any, any connection
to do this. They didn't have any
way of killing over 100 people
after the assassination to shut
them up is totally a mob
operation. The CIA wouldn't do
that either. They have, you
know, they have other ways
without murdering, they have
scruples, dammit, this group was
they like to screw him some
other ways was beside the point.
I would take a look at this,
this, this posting and look it
over. It's an I think Rodriguez
is wrong. I think maybe somebody
I mean that he may be Miss
directing because, again,
Michael francesi made the point
that he thinks the CIA is
covering up the fact that they
couldn't stop the assassination.
And that's makes sense. That
makes their big concern. That
makes sense.
Adam Curry: But I still don't
know why just just so they
wouldn't why take a chance? Was
that the reason why, yeah, why?
Why do I kill all these people?
Well, because what did they have
on the mob?
John C Dvorak: They had? No,
these are people that like
Dorothy Kilgallen, who had done
work on what on the Kennedy
assassination, assassination,
maybe have figured out who did
it.
Adam Curry: Now, why would the
mob do it? What they hated
John C Dvorak: Kennedy. In fact,
if you listen to Rodriguez there
he says that two people two
groups really hated Kennedy. The
mob was one of them. And the
other one was the Cubans.
Adam Curry: Cubans. I understand
I'm just wondering why the mob
what was it the
John C Dvorak: candidate? Well,
if you look into it, I mean, I
from what I can remember,
Kennedy, and not to mention the
fact that he put Bobby Kennedy
in as his as his attorney
general who went after the mob.
Okay, right. Kennedy,
apparently, or it seems that he
made a deal that he reneged on
or he screwed up somehow or went
the Kennedy was having sex with
one of the big boss's
girlfriends.
Adam Curry: Oh, there you go.
Thank you. You just answered the
question. Nuff said. And the
Kennedy Joe Kennedy himself was
a mobster. He was the bootleg
bootlegger, bootlegger.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So as
Kennedy, that's what a lot of
you know, Kennedy was the motto,
it was an element of the mob
being the President of the
United States,
Adam Curry: or bring it all
around. The reason why we still
haven't seen the actual Kennedy
information, even though it
legally needs to be released, is
because people are afraid of the
mob killing them. No,
John C Dvorak: no, the reason
is, because it's got information
in there that indicates that the
CIA was aware of the
assassination plot and could do
nothing to stop it. And it's an
it's an embarrassment to them.
Okay. And if you follow this
timeline to this whole thing,
that this is so disrupting this,
this, this assassination by the
mob that it took, even though it
took about seven years, they
they created the RICO statute,
which went into play into 70 and
1970. To take to just wipe the
mom out,
Adam Curry: right, right. But
you never really wiped them out.
You never really know.
John C Dvorak: But it did a bit
did a lot of damage.
Adam Curry: All right, well,
that's all to everybody. It's
not as cool as brushing. No,
John C Dvorak: I'll get another
note.
Adam Curry: The grassy knoll is
a lot more fun. I mean, why are
you doing no idea why
everybody's against why you're
harshing? My mellow, man, it's
not cool. It's not cool. We want
to George Bush senior to be in
charge of the operation. You
know, that's what we want. It's
just it's a it's a downer, to
downer for conspiracy theorists,
your downer man. Meanwhile, the
absent trial, Epstein trial
continues against JPMorgan
Chase. And in particular, Jamie
Dimon that Jamie Dimon
personally knew that Epstein was
paying off. Victims apparently
victimized on the island. Now,
the court will subpoena Larry
Page who they cannot find. They
can't find him at any address.
Larry Page, Google co founder
because he apparently has some
information. Deutsche Bank just
went smart. They said oh, we're
just gonna pay $75 million to
the victims of Jeffrey Epstein.
We don't want to be a part of
this.
John C Dvorak: They're the best
at that. Oh, yeah.
Adam Curry: Here's the money you
have to keep us out of cannabis
out of the way that's gonna be
if that ever really comes to
trial. It's gonna be fun to
watch. But yeah,
John C Dvorak: never happened.
Adam Curry: I don't think so
either.
John C Dvorak: I don't know.
Larry Page disappeared.
Adam Curry: Well, they can't
find it.
John C Dvorak: They also want to
they can't give us a Pina. Yeah,
Adam Curry: they want to
subpoena Elon too. And so now
the court has to find him. Well,
yes, he's at CNBC all day long.
But if Did you see that what was
that all about?
John C Dvorak: I mean, no, I
gotta get a tape of this or I
can do one of my fabulous Elon
Musk. Edit, suck.
Adam Curry: Well, I have a
couple of short clips which are
short because the guy shot
terrible talks like that it is
it is horrible. He's like he's
not. I guess if you just talk
like this, I'm fairly difficult
then you sound intelligent or
like you know what you're
talking about. He's, he does
know some things. He knows what
he's talking about. Budget,
that's
John C Dvorak: a talk, it's
getting worse. It's getting
worse with some of this. I
noticed this was the Ultra Rich.
Yeah, they're very, very slowly
deteriorate in their ability to
communicate.
Adam Curry: Oh, interesting.
What other examples I've had,
you
John C Dvorak: know, when I
first noticed this was who was
with Ted Turner?
Adam Curry: When they'll be he
actually has, he has dementia.
Now he's got he got well, before
he
John C Dvorak: had dementia,
maybe it was, it was fairly, you
know, he could he could talk
they handle himself. And then
all of a sudden, he started
going into this this bit where
every time he started to speak
before he said anything, he
went, Ah, he made this, this
loud, moaning sound, every
single is be at the beginning of
every single sentence. And I'm
thinking, geez, this is weird. I
started listening to these other
guys, and I must is a good
example. You're wrong.
Adam Curry: I think you're
wrong. This has nothing to do
with being rich. It has to do
with tainted Adrenochrome was
clearly something else going on.
Here's Elon,
John C Dvorak: is must be it.
Unknown: Let's talk a bit about
your tweets. Because it comes up
a lot. Even today, it came up
and you know, anticipation of
this. I mean, you do some tweets
that seem to be or at least give
support to some who would call
others conspiracy theories.
Well, yes, but I mean, honestly,
you know, some of these
conspiracy theories have turned
out to be true. Which ones
will like the Hunter Biden
laptop?
Adam Curry: That's true. Hunter
Biden laptop. Oh, that's true.
Now let's talk about, you know,
other conspiracy theories. Well,
we're coming
Unknown: up on an election. I
mean, it's a ways away, but it's
going to all start. Yeah,
President Trump is allowed back
on the platform. He hasn't
actually come back. Right. But
one would imagine if and when he
does, or there are others who
will say 2020 election was
rigged. Is that something? I
assume that's not something you
believe?
I? Well, I think the answer
there The answer is is nuanced.
Like do I believe Biden one?
Yes. I believe he won, you voted
for I did, actually.
Do you regret that?
I mean, man, I, I wish we could
have just a normal human being
as President. That's what I
want. I think, if we could, you
know, there's that old saying of
like, we're better. We're better
off being run by by people
picked at random from the
phonebook than the faculty of
Harvard. Yeah. I don't know who
said that. But if someone were
very wise, and I would say if we
could do that for the President,
that would be
official. You're obviously
you're not happy with by
we all just want a normal human
being.
Whatever. Whatever. anymore.
What normal me
know what I mean? Like, you
know, just
you want somebody who's
competent.
Adam Curry: I mean, this is the
way he speaks. Like Sam Backman
fried. Another noon, geez, uh,
people are nuts.
John C Dvorak: It has to be an
explanation for it, because he
Adam Curry: doesn't know what
he's talking about. Here. Listen
to this. Now this this one piss
me off.
Unknown: So. So my opinion would
be that there was some there was
some small amount of fraud, but
it was not enough to change the
and
by the way, it might have been
either way. I mean, you know,
yeah, there's probably a little
bit of again, it's gonna be
you're gonna let people say that
though on the on Twitter, and
then you're gonna hope that
they're corrected and they will
be corrected. They will be
Oh, yeah. Harper said
Adam Curry: no. 100% Okay.
100% 100% Oh, yeah. 100% Geez,
it was really, this whole
interview.
John C Dvorak: When I'm hearing
that everyone's saying it. It's
a real priority. I identified
Adam Curry: it's been it's not
100% You know, be honest. 9998
What is the percentage of things
100%? No, correct. Even the
number of climate scientists who
believe that this is all they
couldn't get 100 They couldn't
get 100 they got 97 but yet
everything else is
100 100% 100%. When some we need
to
John C Dvorak: wonder how that
got into the into the public
domain.
Adam Curry: Kara Swisher. 100
Prasanna sign. I was just one of
those things tick tock tick.
probably everything is tick
tock. What do you think tick
tock. Now let's stick with the
primetime takedowns of our
politicians. There was a good
version of this, which I should
have got should have gotten
retrieved this clip of what
Biden said because they cut it
off in this ABC report,
Unknown: President Biden now
calling white supremacy the most
dangerous terrorist threat the
country. Here's ABCs Elizabeth
shozy. From 2011 to 2021, DHS
says racially motivated
extremists accounted for the
biggest share of domestic terror
incidents this weekend.
President Biden with a stark
warning
as the most dangerous terrorist
threat to our homeland is white
supremacy.
In his speech to graduates of
Howard University, the president
decrying sinister forces seeking
to undo progress toward racial
equality.
I thought when I graduated, we
could defeat a
Adam Curry: he actually said in
the piece I don't have he said,
you know, the most dangerous
thing in our country is white
supremacy. And then he follows
up by saying, and I'm not just
saying that because you're a
black college. Okay, thank you,
bro.
Unknown: But it never goes away
certainly hides under the rocks.
Silence is complicity.
And tonight amid protests
calling for stronger gun safety
laws, the president renewing his
call for an assault weapons ban.
In the USA Today on bed Biden
pointing to the more than 650
mass shootings and 40,000 gun
related deaths since the buffalo
massacre, telling lawmakers for
God's sake, do something.
Adam Curry: This was my
favorite. So it's now we have
like, six 650 mass shootings.
It's just we're just we're just
shooting. It's a wild west here.
If crazy people outside of
America think we are just
shooting everything
John C Dvorak: to the store that
haven't
Adam Curry: shot getting shot.
That's exactly the same thing
where people in Fredericksburg
think that the the two and a
half 1000 Haitians are going to
be dumped off of the bus on Main
Street patients of all ages of
all patients. And then and then
we get Obama listen to this
whopper of a lie. You tell me?
What's the whopper of the lie in
this. We
Unknown: are unique among
advanced, developed nations and
tolerating on a routine basis.
Gun violence in the form of
shootings, mass shootings,
suicides in Australia. He had
one mass shooting 50 years ago
and they said up, we're not
doing that anymore. That is
normally how you would expect a
society respond when your
children are at risk. Why is it
so hard for us? Well, I think
somehow luck, and there are a
lot of historical reasons for
this. Gun ownership in this
country became a ideological
issue and a partisan issue in
ways that it shouldn't be what
was
Adam Curry: the whopper of a lie
in this statement that he made
here?
John C Dvorak: I thought the
whole thing was a lie. Yeah, but
there
Adam Curry: was a whopper
there's a real Whopper in there
that this
John C Dvorak: gun ownership is
a partisan now. Only Republicans
know that it Nope. Here we go.
Unknown: on a routine basis. Gun
violence in the form of
shootings, mass shootings,
suicides in Australia. You had
one mass shooting 50 years ago
and they said up?
Adam Curry: That was not 50
years ago. It was in my lifetime
douche. It was April 28 1996.
Port Arthur was at Port Arthur.
Yes, it's only 27 years ago not
50 they had they've had they had
guns 50 years ago when
Australia. Remember okay, why
does Why does He say 50?
John C Dvorak: I don't know the
price on purpose do it? No, he
just doesn't know what he's
talking about. No. Well, there's
that.
Adam Curry: But you know if if
Michelle Stark
John C Dvorak: douche change the
Second Amendment if you don't
like it, we had that. I mean, if
everyone if you're all veterans
all in on this change the Second
Amendment you gotta made
Adam Curry: maybe he comes from
the Stargate, you know, so 50
years different for him. But
without without a doubt, the top
the top politician we have who's
a senator was asking a series of
questions. This is a one minute
32nd clip. This is on the
Banking Committee. And as we
know, you know, there's a lot of
problems with how how JP Morgan
Chase, basically made $2.8
billion, while the FDIC shelled
out 15 billion to bail out.
Republic bank
John C Dvorak: to Republic bank,
public or Silicon Valley boasts
Adam Curry: Oh no republic first
Silicon Valley was a little
different though Silicon Valley
was first and Republic. Right.
But But I think the the money
was made the big money was made.
I mean, look, right now there's
a trillion look, there's a
trillion dollars of unsecured
deposits in JPMorgan Chase, they
are now too big to fail to whale
to tail to do anything. So he's
sitting there beautiful. And
here's one of your Senators
questioning the banking, the
bankers about these actions that
are taking place. This is
Senator Fetterman.
Unknown: Is it staggering? Is it
a staggering response? A
response? And
Adam Curry: by the way, this is
not edited this one all one go?
Is it staggering? Is
Unknown: it a staggering
response responsibility that the
head of a bank could literally
could literally crash our
economy? It's astonishing.
That's like, if you have I mean,
like, and they also realize is
that, that, that now they have
it's in the guaranteed a
guaranteed way to be saved by an
American by no matter what
number if I have, you know, so
it's, you know, isn't it
appropriate that the those kinds
of this kind of control should
be more stricter? To prevent
this kind of thing? Should we?
Or should we just go on and
start bailing and sailing
whoever bank regardless of how
how there's their conduct is?
Give me an example. The
Republicans want to give a work
requirement for SNAP for a
hungry family has to have these
this kind of penalties are they
some kinds of word working?
Requires? Shouldn't you have a
working requirement after each
sale your bank believes that
your bank because they see we
were pretty preoccupied when
then snap requirements for works
for hungry people, but not about
protecting the tax the tax
papers, you know, that will fail
no matter whatever does about
the bank to crash it?
Adam Curry: Literally no one
knows what to say. They're all
sitting there looking at the
Emperor completely naked. And no
one just stands up and says,
Excuse me, this is not a
coherent question.
John C Dvorak: Is Is there a
question mark within this
structure? No
Adam Curry: sailing and bailing?
I mean, this is how we have
comes to such an interesting
place in history. Where, where
we just accept this? unedited?
That's exactly there was no
question. He was a question. But
it wasn't a question that he
brought in SNAP and all kinds of
other things. And then he just
give it back to the chair, chair
take over. I know one. Banker
just look at each other like
whatever. This is a problem.
John C Dvorak: I've got going to
do this source a series. I got a
classic Ted Cruz one here, oh,
boy. This is where it cruises
going on somebody and trying to
get him to answer he's doing the
same thing. He
Adam Curry: lost all my respect
crews. Respect for this guy
anymore. And well,
John C Dvorak: but this is the
situation when you have the
Democrats running one thing and
the Republicans, the Republicans
do the same thing when they're
in charge. But this is the
Senate. So as the Democrats in
here we go,
Unknown: No, we're not going to
give you the billion dollars.
They said you have no authority.
You're not the president. The
president said I said call him I
said I'm telling you, you're not
getting the billion dollars
John C Dvorak: for a second.
This is a question of a guy who
is going to be placed in some
position. Who is who busted the
Biden's early on but then he
refuses to say anything bad
about them. And it has to do
with Joe Biden's intimidating
Ukraine back in the day in front
of the Council on Foreign
Relations saying Right, right,
right, right. We remember the
story and so he's gonna say, the
guy says, Well, you know,
they've never there's never been
any wrongdoing. And so proves
goes off on him with this story
about Biden, the we're not gonna
give you the billion dollars.
They said you have no authority.
You're not the president. The
president said, I said call him
I said, I'm telling you, you're
not getting the billion dollars.
I
Unknown: said, you're not
getting the billion dollars. I'm
going to be leaving here. And I
think it was about six hours. I
looked at them and said, I'm
leaving here in six hours. If
the prosecutor is not fired,
you're not getting the money.
Well, son of a bitch. He got
fired. Let me ask you something.
Do you think Joe Biden holding a
billion dollars hostage to force
the Ukrainian government to fire
the prosecutor that is
investigating the corrupt
oligarchs. arquus paying his son
a million dollars a year did
getting that prosecutor fired
benefit that oligarch.
Thank you Senator Cruz. Senator
Van, are
you going to allow him to answer
the question, Madam Chairman, I
am not going to allow him to
answer the question. And why are
you covering the Vice President?
Do you not want to answer that
question? He said that the Vice
President
is unfortunate for you, Senator
Cruz, to put in position that
are uncomfortable. The nominees
to be our ambassador exists.
Adam Curry: The ambassador
nominees
man Oh, man, I came
John C Dvorak: now. We're making
them comfortable. This is not a
candy question. We want to hear.
Adam Curry: By the way we were
wrong about the about the debt
ceiling No, not wrong, in
general about how it will
probably get solved. But it's
not a continuing resolution.
That continuing resolution is
not not the is not the mechanism
that can stop this back and
forth and shutting down the
economy. Most recently, and 21 I
think it was 2014, maybe 2015.
We had the Bipartisan Budget Act
before that, and 2011 the Budget
Control Act, and then you can
this is how they get little bits
and pieces in or the Emergency
Economic Stabilization Act. That
was 2008. That was a good one.
There's all kinds of stuff that
can be done, but it's not a
continuing resolution. People
did want to point that out and I
want to make sure everyone hears
that we admit when we're wrong.
We'll see. Now this is not a
continuing resolution is a
different mechanism.
John C Dvorak: Okay, well, it's
going to be the point real the
long term point is we're not
going into default.
Adam Curry: Oh man, I sure hope
so. It'd be so much fun.
John C Dvorak: Probably wouldn't
be going to show what is it
Adam Curry: when you shut down
the government that's not the
same as a default right
John C Dvorak: the shutdown we
don't know the government that's
different right? That's
Adam Curry: when we don't have a
car that's when you have the
continuing resolution is on the
government shutdown. But this is
the day I think it's I think
it's really fun to watch and
help you Oh, well, I want to get
my paycheck.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, definitely
be something to experience but
you wouldn't be good for the
show.
Adam Curry: No, none of it's
good for the show ever. But this
is good for the show. I finally
got a clip on the Chevron
deference.
John C Dvorak: No, okay. Good.
Yeah, we need an update on that
because
Adam Curry: this kind of
explains why are they going
after Clarence Thomas and
ultimately after the you know,
the Supreme Court is a
legitimate is no good. We gotta
get rid of me just too many.
Conservatives on the good is no
good. So CBS actually did a
little story on the Chevron
deference what it means and how
it relates to well, then, of
course, they would never
explicitly say it but how it
relates to this takedown of
Supreme Court justices
Unknown: Supreme Court has
announced it will take up a case
next term that could potentially
strip federal agencies of some
of their powers. The case Loper
enterprises vs. rimando seeks to
overturn a nearly 40 year old
legal precedent known as Chevron
deference. It directs courts to
defer to federal agencies when
interpreting unclear laws. The
Chevron deference has been
targeted by conservatives and
they believe it gives too much
power to agencies and the
executive branch. For more on
this, let's bring in Jeff
Braven. He's correspondent for
The Wall Street Journal, I
should say, Jess, there's a two
step that was established, as I
understand it, in by the chevron
case, that's at the center of
this back in 1984. I think what
is that two step process?
Well, it's very simple. It seems
like almost almost too obvious.
The the opinion a unanimous
opinion by Justice John Paul
Stevens says first, you see if
this question has been quite
specifically answered by the
statute, is it completely clear
what Congress wants to happen?
If the answer is yes, well, then
courts have to enforce that they
don't have any discretion, and
the agency has to obey it as
well. But what if the statute is
ambiguous? And of course, a lot
of laws you said before is a bit
ambiguous if it is ambiguous.
This decision said the way
courts would behave as they
should defer to a plausible
interpretation by the agency. So
that's that's the idea. The
agency is the expert in this
area, Congress has assigned it
at the job of carrying out its
function. So the court should
defer unless they're making a
very implausible application of
the law.
Adam Curry: So if this Chevron
deference were overturned, then
a lot more cases for the
agencies would go to the courts,
federal courts, and they would
really have to scrutinize what
was being said and it could eat
And I mean, the real decision
would have to be made. And I
think that probably a lot of
these laws are very ambiguous as
written because first of all,
Congress people stupid, they
don't know everything. And but,
yes,
John C Dvorak: well, first of
all, most of these laws that
they're discussing, are not
Congress writing anything. These
are administrative laws. Well,
these are the laws written by
the boneheads that run these
agencies and they they're not
congressmen, they're not
lawyers, and they throw these
laws together. And those are the
ambiguous laws they're talking
about.
Adam Curry: No, they're not
because you'll hear it in this
next clip. They're talking about
laws that were made in Congress,
but then the agencies interpret
that into rules. And this next
clip, okay, is right is right up
your alley. It's about to get
near.
John C Dvorak: Yes, but the
initial law that's in Congress
is is ambiguous, different,
differing, that's where
deference Yes, deferring to the
agency, we're writing a law that
gives you the power to do this,
that and the other. So they give
the EPA all kinds of power, and
then they cut them loose, and
they don't do shit after that.
Adam Curry: Exactly. So that's
the ambiguity. And this next
shorter clip is about the EPA,
which you know something about
so you might be able to comment,
Unknown: why are people paying
so much attention to this issue,
given the current makeup of the
court? Well,
this is one of the many other
shoes to drop after we saw the
court overturn Roe vs. Wade.
That obviously was number one on
the conservative agenda. But
there are many, many other
errors that conservative legal
thinkers believe the Supreme
Court has made over the past
decades. And this turned out to
be one of them. Now, at the
time, it actually was a victory
for conservatives. There were
some environmentalists who
challenged a rule by the Reagan
era EPA led by Justice Gorsuch,
his mother at the time and
Gorsuch Burford. And the
environmentalists said the
agency had not followed the law
properly. The Supreme Court said
agency gets discretion if the
law is ambiguous. But more
recently, it's been an industry
that has been unhappy with the
way that agencies are exercising
their power, especially the EPA.
And they're the ones who want to
basically turn this power over
to federal courts where they
think they'll have a more
sympathetic here than with
regulators who might have
devoted their lives to say
pollution control and they
believe are overstepping their
power to achieve those ends.
Adam Curry: I didn't know that.
Gosh, it's his mom ran the EPA
John C Dvorak: says bunch of
this is a whole system is rife.
With nepotism, it's
Unknown: crazy.
Adam Curry: And people don't
know this. This is not taught in
civics, you will have no idea
how this works. You remember,
remember that I'm a bill. I'm a
bill, I go go through stuff. And
then I become law from a bill
and then we send it off to the
agencies and they do whatever
they want.
John C Dvorak: Like the IRS.
This is the administrative state
that we live in, they can't do
anything about it is impossible.
The whole world or our entire
government is run as an
administrative state is not run
the way we think it's run. And
that administrative state is the
only reason it works. It there's
nothing they can do. They can
overturn this stuff. They can't
shake. They can't do what we
like to think which is well the
legislators supposed to make the
law, not some bureaucrat. No,
that's not the way it works.
It's not the way it's going to
work they're not going to let it
go to that it's not going to
happen. I think we're all living
in a dream world.
Adam Curry: And on that happy
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John C Dvorak: Mooney you in the
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Was that wrong? That's kind of
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John C Dvorak: Well then you
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Adam Curry: assigned male at
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Anyway, the album art which was
I think a big surprise went to
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blogger who did a very sweet
little Mother's Day cartoon
which you thought would be aI
but I call Ai no, this isn't
this is this is his style this
is actually common
John C Dvorak: style I've seen
his style for years this isn't
it?
Adam Curry: I know he didn't say
it was I mean he would be the
first to say it wasn't well
we'll get we'll get an honest
answer from him. I think we can
we get an honest answer from it
we get honest answer from him
John C Dvorak: that you know
what the hands look at the hands
you got too many fingers typical
typical AI because the AI can't
figure out how long humans have
five fingers Oh
Adam Curry: you're right six
You're right 1234 You may be
right huh well was cute anyway,
it was a bunch of very pretty
picture. Yeah, it was nice and
we had what else do we have to
choose from? We had
John C Dvorak: a lot of a lot of
flowers the one was one that we
do our favorite one literally
was the Mother's Day by tantan
deal with the goat head but a
dead goat had in in a bunch of
with a bunch of flowers is not
probably not the best message to
be sending
Adam Curry: but we don't we
don't the goat had its eyes open
so we don't know if the goat was
dead it
John C Dvorak: doesn't mean a
dead goat died open eyes even
creepier
Adam Curry: It's such a pretty
piece and we really we were
ready to pull the trigger on it
and we just it's too too
gruesome
John C Dvorak: just it was all
it was missing was a pool of
blood
Adam Curry: and then we had to
Sir dude named Parker prolly who
had a like a daisy with mom with
the it looked like a butthole
and there's something wrong with
that. Parker Polly yeah the one
with a daisy flower but
John C Dvorak: hold on Oh
Adam Curry: for mom was yeah it
was it was wrong or something
wrong with the center of the
flower and we had no there was
one you liked with the one now
the one you liked with some baby
John C Dvorak: there was one I
knew did your response to it was
too small probably your response
to everything you don't like
remember which one I don't want
I really liked was to go to head
Adam Curry: we should have just
done that man that go No. I got
overruled I was ready for goat I
was ready for the
John C Dvorak: guy who liked
Have you liked him comic strip
blogger piece who well you
Adam Curry: pacified me you we
Canvas for moms. Let's do
something nice for moms and
moms. Okay, okay.
John C Dvorak: guy wasn't even
in the conversation. All right.
Well, congratulations,
Adam Curry: comic strip blogger.
Thank you very much for
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Adam Curry: exactly criticizing
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Adam Curry: Do you know what the
top job is that people are
schooling for right now in the
Netherlands. But Carpenter,
carpenter everyone because
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you know this to become a what
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he was skilled tradesmen? So but
if you want to be a carpenter or
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and hand it over to some an
apprentice apprenticeship.
That's what it used to be
called. Remember those? Yeah,
they
John C Dvorak: still do those
but it's rare.
Adam Curry: And how long would
it take to become a good
carpenter? Five years couple a
couple of years I
John C Dvorak: don't think it
take that long couple of years.
Adam Curry: And I'm think
welding I mean, welding you can
learn in a couple years to be
really good at it.
John C Dvorak: Well, you can
learn it pretty quickly, but
getting good at it as Rob,
because I can weld.
Adam Curry: I can. I can weld
too. Yeah. Can you Healy arc?
Yes. That's how I was taught
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really seems to be the root
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I'm in the middle of reading RFK
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I highly recommend this book to
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know, I
John C Dvorak: really I love
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aging De Niro. watchable
Adam Curry: that was kind of
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that was that's probably what
threw you off. scene.
John C Dvorak: The whole thing
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Adam Curry: Well, thank you very
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Adam Curry: Bye. So DeSantis
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I think a president should do. I
have a real hard time with this
guy. You know, he's got a big
Wall Street money behind him.
Don't trust him. But what he did
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Adam Curry: was a lawyer. Yeah,
probably a spook. But the the
bill that he signed, and I'll
let him ramble for his two
minutes here is pretty much
everything that we've been
talking about when it comes to
the trans Maoist conversion of
the United States,
Unknown: you have a movement
amongst I would say rogue
elements of the medical
establishment, to do things that
is basically the mutilation of
minors. I mean, they're trying
to do sex change operations on
minors, giving them things like
puberty blockers and doing
things that are irreversible to
them. And that is not based on
science. That is not based on
evidence. In fact, you have had
countries that have tried to do
this in Europe, and they
recognize this was very harmful.
And so now they don't
Adam Curry: do it, please, this
is exactly what we've been
saying this phenomenon is like
Sweden,
John C Dvorak: staff is
listening to us and I probably
Unknown: yet here in the United
States, you have a very, I would
say ideologically charged, small
group of folks within medicine
that are really pushing these
types of procedures on minors.
We think that that is wrong. In
Florida last year, we took
action so that no physician that
does those procedures are going
to be able to keep their medical
license. So that's gone if you
do this, which is great.
Adam Curry: Which is just a
pause for a second. This puts a
lot of doctors between a rock
and a hard place. On the one
hand, you have the American
Psychology Association and the
American pediatrics Association,
the American Association of
Pediatrics has all these
different lobbying groups and
political groups really, but
they write their own laws, they
write the the procedures, they
have licensed people their
responsibility through
collective insurance for these
doctors and therapists mainly.
Now, you can't go left you can't
go right. You know, so
something's got to give in the
medical community.
Unknown: But when we do do the
SBU to do this, we'll permanent
outlaw the mutilation of minors.
It will outlaw the surgical
procedures and experimental
puberty blockers for minors. It
will also require any adults
receiving the surgeries to be
informed about the irreversible
nature and about the dangers of
the procedures. It will give
Florida courts temporary
jurisdiction to intervene and
halt procedures for out of state
children. You have actually some
states in this country that want
to be a haven And for these
types of procedures, and even
welcome minors without their
parents consent, and to some of
their jurisdiction, we're
obviously doing the opposite
here. And I think this is this
provision is important. This is
going to create a way to recover
damages for injury or death
resulting from mutilating
surgeries or these experimental
puberty blockers that are given
to a minor. Because what
happens, they go through this,
then they get older, and this is
a huge problem. They should be
able to sue the physician who
hurt them, and they're now going
to be able to with this law,
Adam Curry: that's pretty far
reaching.
John C Dvorak: Like the suing
part. Yeah, he should have
changed the word to shoot.
Adam Curry: Wow, man, I've
gotten I got so many boots on
the ground about the
testosterone that you were
talking about the roid rage. One
of one of our producers listen
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Istat low while he started a TRT
injections of mix of short and
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didn't think much about it, but
over the following three months,
he became erratic and extremely
emotional. I was confused by his
change in personality when it
gets bad and start to seriously
consider breaking up with him.
His first three months follow a
blood work show total tea was
greater than 2400 Ug DL, I guess
1200 is the max and free tea was
greater than 400. He jokingly
said the doctor was surprised he
hadn't killed his fiancee. His
physician drastically lowered
the dose the dose but he had one
last mega dose injected the day
he went to get his lab results.
Memories of my first friend came
flooding back I looked up the
dose response time for the
blender was using eight days. So
what happened is due to my love
for him, I decided to wait it
out exactly eight days later
though he snapped it was
horrifying to witness the love
of my life become totally
psychotic. He was wondering 240
pounds of muscle knocked me
unconscious. I woke up being
straddled and him whispering in
my air this in my ear. This is
what it feels like to die. I
escaped by gouging his eyes with
my fingers and fleeing in my car
as he chased me holy crap this
testosterone is not to be taken
lightly people Oh,
John C Dvorak: I did this
borderline dangerous. The it's
very deathbed the shots or the
you know, there's other ways
just rub on stuff the can't
remember than Androgel Yes, it's
safer. It's too dangerous for me
to imagine. That's a men who are
used to Metastar now take girls
now take a girl and give her
this stuff and see how far you
get. You're gonna end up with
somebody, you know, walking
around with a rifle shooting
poor little innocent nine year
olds. Yeah, exactly what
happened.
Adam Curry: Finland is once
again reporting they're taking
another look at youth gender
medicine. Not a good idea.
They're looking at longer term
studies now which have not been
done here. But all that comes
down to a couple of things that
are not addressed by Governor
DeSantis social media, the
pressures of social media and an
out I'll pull into this the
swimsuit Sports Illustrated
Swimsuit Edition, where we have
Martha Stewart now as an 81 year
old on the cover of this four
covers. The odd one of the
covers of the Sports Illustrated
Swimsuit Swimsuit Issue.
disgustingly photoshopped Make
no mistake don't say oh, if I
looked like her No, no, she
doesn't look like that. I know
her I've been up close. And the
donor mentioned the bo in the
elevator Ah, but they Photoshop
everything. There is no truth in
anything. You see, he could have
John C Dvorak: done a better
job.
Adam Curry: I don't think this
is the best they could do. And
then they have another trans, a
trans woman on the on one of the
covers, and this is going to
stop Americans are starting to
figure it out. Have you seen
that now target is is the next
literal target.
John C Dvorak: I have complained
about target and these and the
way they have gone for well nuts
not on this show as much as DH
employed by been complaining
about them losing it. They have
they're promoting fat women and
trans women Derrick dirt
completely lost the plot. They
used to it used to be a store
that had stuff that was well
designed, it was pretty they had
professional bigshot designers
come in and they were We used to
promote it that way. Now it's
just a, it's just it's
borderline to $1. Store.
Adam Curry: Yeah, with all the
rainbow stuff. Now we're seeing
parents go in and just say,
Well, is there a straight
section for my children that
that look is? Can I just get
something and doesn't have weird
stuff and Adidas or as we say in
the old country, Adidas, pride
2023, women's swimsuits. These
are being modeled by men. With
package it's a little it's a
it's a women's swimsuit. And
they have men modeling it. And I
mean, what's this?
John C Dvorak: What's wrong?
This is what happens when you
get these people, certain people
in the executive level and they
get in there, you can't get them
out and they start making these
decisions somehow. I don't know
how it's accepted by everyone. I
guess they get shamed into it.
But they have bad people in
management and these companies
are all going to fail.
Adam Curry: Yes, Corps has now.
Sophia Colucci, Chief Marketing
Officer for Molson Coors
beverage. I don't know if you've
seen this. It was it actually
was made in March. But
apparently they decided to let
it go. They're now criticizing
their own brand for having used
women in bathing. So
John C Dvorak: that was no, that
was Miller. Like, that's Miller
Lite.
Adam Curry: Yeah. But that's
yeah. But that's Miller Lite is
a multi branch. It's funny.
John C Dvorak: I have a thought
on this. But so look, I don't
believe that I believe this is a
real ad that they did back in
the day, like, March before
March. I think it was InBev that
Riri introduced.
Adam Curry: Oh, so now they're
eating each other? That's cool.
I like that.
John C Dvorak: Because I don't
see that would be idiotic, for
any executive to make the
decision to do that to bring
that ad back out. Because it was
already a failure. And it just
was swept under the rug. Nobody
said anything about it. And now
all of a sudden it reappears.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: good point. Good
point. Yep. I'm with you. Then
we have Texas Democrat. Sean
Terry. She's a Democrat from
Houston. And I'm going to play
this soundbite in Texas, they
passed the bill that forbids any
type of medical transition, I'm
sorry, gender affirming care for
minors, which is a very
reasonable, and there's lots of
things if all right, I'm gonna
get her that I want you to hear
she bet she's going to be
censured by her own party, I
want you to hear because all
political at the end of the day,
this is one side saying
Democrats are are killing
children and the other side
saying Republicans are anti
trans and transphobes forget all
of the politics. And what she
says here, very, very nervous, I
think was spot on very nervous
when she stood up and spoke in
in the senate
Unknown: members. It is out of
respect, caring, in friendship.
For every member of this body
that I would like to share my
position on this very complex
issue. I'm coming from a place
of love and compassion, and can
only hope and pray that it is
received in that same spirit.
While we can have debates on the
best policy approach, I do not
believe that any of us in this
body actually wants to cause
harm to children who are
suffering from depression,
dysphoria, or any other mental
health issues. Over the past two
years, I have extensively
researched this issue and
painstakingly reviewed the
scientific data in this country
and around the globe. As a woman
of color, I know what it's like
to feel unseen, unheard and
devalued. I have recently been
treated that way, by some in
this process in coming to this
vote. After listening to the
debate today, I absolutely
believe we should raise the age
to 18 for children to receive
GnRH analogs, cross sex hormones
and to undergo potential
irreversible body altering
surgeries. Members in this
nation. Most all adults have
been united in at least one
basic premise that children
deserve protections, special
protections and exceptional
treatment under the law.
Adam Curry: Thank you very much.
Thank you Representative from
Houston. Very good. But maybe
it's time that somewhat and it's
going to be very difficult
because as we know, we're the
only country in America that
won't allow that allows
pharmaceutical advertisements
direct to consumer, America UK
and New Zealand I guess. But the
report is now out that here it
is us depression rates reach all
time highs. Percentage of US
adults is from Gallup, who have
reported having been diagnosed
with depression at some point in
their lifetime has reached
29% 10% higher than 2015. At
what point do we call out the
medical community and say it's
not working? It's just not
working. And then you take with
that the report in The Wall
Street Journal, young Americans
are dying at alarming rates.
Children teens suicide all kinds
of horrible things. The pharma
game is not working. It's not
and that I keep reading these
reports that that prescription
medicines are the shortage of
everything. Have you heard Have
you heard of this? I don't even
know if that's true.
John C Dvorak: It feels hard to
yes comes and goes. I wonder if
it's true myself. Nor is it just
to get people
Adam Curry: on more stuff. But
we really need to reevaluate
we're doing and social media is
a big problem. And luckily we're
seeing some of the Zoomers just
giving up on it. But now I think
the older older people older
adults are just completely still
all sucked into the system. Now
I love my light phone. John, I
know you scoff at it. I know
Ben, you don't need one because
you put your your smartphone in
the desk. I know. You know, you
John C Dvorak: don't run a whole
podcast or downstairs.
Adam Curry: I run a podcasting
empire. You know, there's a lot
to do here. But I love it. I
love it. I'm weaning myself off.
It's pretty good. You know, now
that now that I feel like I can
do I have a right tool for it. I
have basically no internet when
I'm going out. Just text and
phone Perfect. Perfect for me.
And all the schools that we see
all these children are put into
schools that have no screens.
What do we have no depression,
no suicide, and also strangely,
very few trans.
John C Dvorak: So you think
there's a connection?
Adam Curry: There's our opening.
Thank you. That's exactly what I
was looking for.
John C Dvorak: So let's talk
about climate as a report came
out.
Adam Curry: Yes. Oh, yeah. Yes,
this was very funny.
John C Dvorak: So I'm not even
going to go to Americans. Let's
start with LG Zerah. And I got a
three and a three parter with a
with a sub clip. Climate Oh no.
AJ. Well, we
Unknown: begin with the state of
our climate. And you rip away
Stop.
John C Dvorak: This is the top
of the news, by the way. Right?
And it's not even news, though.
report came out, stop,
everything stopped. The presses
are starving in Ethiopia.
There's riots going on. They're
killing each other in Sudan. No,
stop. Let's start with this. I
love the
Adam Curry: starving and
Ethiopia. What century are you
for?
John C Dvorak: Well, we're
always striving for my bed. When
we
Unknown: begin with the state of
our climate. A new report says
global temperatures will
continue to climb into uncharted
territory. And then it is right
now levels of heat around the
world are way beyond normal. But
it's still thought the worst may
be yet to come. It's down to the
double whammy of global warming,
and a weather phenomenon called
El Nino. Here's our environment.
This look at a map of the world
and pretty much everywhere this
year, we've seen searing
unseasonable heat in Europe, in
Asia and South America and in
the United States record
temperatures fueled by climate
change. And it's not about to
stop report from the World
Meteorological Organization says
it's almost certain we're going
to see the hottest year on
record between now. And 2027.
Yeah. Wait
Adam Curry: a minute, the world.
It's the WMO we have a new one.
Hey, yeah,
John C Dvorak: don't we have the
hottest year on record? Every
year after Democracy Now every
year, year after year after year
Britain now. Now it's going to
be we're going to soon see it.
We have already seen it.
Adam Curry: How do you read it
says hottest year on record
ever, ever. It's happening
Unknown: part two, and 2027 and
that we will breach the 1.5
degrees Celsius threshold of pre
industrial levels set by the
Paris Agreement with increasing
frequency. So what's going on?
Are human induced global warming
is about to be turbocharged by a
natural charge. El Nino happens
every few years and sees winds
and ocean currents specific
reverse direction significantly
altering global weather
patterns, bringing hotter, drier
weather or even drought to
places like Australia, Indonesia
and parts of South Asia. A day
this week the Department of
Health and the Philippines
warned its health care
facilities to be ready for the
extreme effects of El Nino
affecting power and water. As
supplies and potentially
spreading disease,
Adam Curry: they have always
connected El Nino to death and
destruction from climate change.
They always do that we've had El
Nino for centuries.
John C Dvorak: Well, they
mentioned that it comes every
two years so Yeah, hello. Good
thing how is it new now this is
a different visited El Nino
especially well, I mean, it
doesn't make sense.
Adam Curry: El Nino El Nino was
cheese.
John C Dvorak: Make sense? Now
here's part three, there's a
little there's I think there's
the one where the woman comes on
begging for money from some
area. Oh, and she little truth
comes out. Hi, Jamila.
Adam Curry: I'm sorry, which
one? I do I do the truth one
here. Now,
John C Dvorak: part three don't
know that three A is deceptive.
Okay.
Unknown: Boyd is a member of
Malaysia's Climate Action
Council and she says everyone on
the planet is at risk,
I think that the risk is real
for everyone, whether you live
in the northern hemisphere or in
the developing world, and I
think that you know, we are
seeing the heat waves that are
going to happen now with the
Phenom weather phenomena. We
know that in in many of these
developed nations, the
demography mix of the nations
are also different. So the
vulnerability of populations
also will be more severe, where
there are elderly population. So
I think, you know, everyone feel
the brunt of the in a warming
world, no amount of advocacy and
work by all of us in the climate
space and health space to tell
people about the damages and the
consequences of climate change
is enough. We have skewed
governance now that it's
favoring, you know, fossil fuel
production, we are, you know, we
really need to reset the
relationships, we need to re
examine why there is so much
inaction. And until then, unless
we as humanity who have caused
all this damage, start to re
examine our relationships with
this planet. Honestly, I am
angry, you know, I feel that I
cannot understand, you know, why
people are not ignoring the
science. At the end of the day,
you know, we are in a very
terrible situation. Now, we, you
know, we are facing what the UN
has called an uncertainty
complex
Adam Curry: uncertainty complex.
Is that like little things there
is that an inferiority complex
John C Dvorak: is there's
uncertainty complex, you have
it. And so everybody does it.
And if you're it, because you're
a climate change denier
sciences, I thought was a self
contradictory statement in
there, which was, I don't know
if you caught it. No, but it was
one of these things. You hear
you hear these things all the
time, this little truth wants to
come over listening to the sub
clip, and you can hear what she
says, clearly,
Unknown: I cannot understand,
you know why people are not
ignoring the science.
Adam Curry: Why they're not
ignoring.
John C Dvorak: Why are people
not ignoring the science?
Adam Curry: Truth comes out,
that's how it always goes. I
actually have the French 24
promo reel of the WMO, which you
know, this, this tells you
because it's world media rollup
Meteorological Organization.
Now, I thought that the weather
is not climate. But yet these
guys, they're the
meteorologists. They're in
charge of
John C Dvorak: depending depends
if it's convenient. Oh, blimey,
but if it's inconvenient, it's
not claimed. But let's listen
what
Adam Curry: really sparked this
incredible news.
Unknown: It is a stark warning.
Yesterday on the one about the
climate emergency affecting all
of us. The UN's World
Meteorological Organization, the
WMO is saying that for the first
time ever, global temperatures
are now more likely than not to
breach 1.5 degrees Celsius of
warming between now and 2027 66
person
charged that we will exceed 1.5
degrees during the coming coming
five years. It's a conclusion
that that we haven't been able
to limit the warming so far. And
and we are still moving in the
wrong wrong direction.
The UN bodies forecast last year
put the answer to about 5050.
Adam Curry: Okay, so the whole
thing is because they said
instead of 50% 5050 In five
years, it's now 66 Devil number.
It's now 66% I'd love to see
their calculation. Could you
show your math? I mean, this is
so so this is insultingly
stupid. Yeah, all right. I
promised little background on
the Wagner group.
John C Dvorak: Unless you're
smart. You promised a report and
Adam Curry: you Agile is a lot
and some new things have come to
light First of all, the Kremlin
on Thursday criticized a
decision by the United States to
transfer Ukraine to Ukraine. The
forfeited assets of conservative
Russian businessman Constantine,
Mallow VF saying it was illegal
and would backfire on
Washington. Here it is. Now
their start, I told you they
were going to do this. They're
starting to transfer all the
assets to Ukraine, and this guy
was ordered to do it. US
Attorney General Merrick Garland
on Wednesday, authorized
millions of dollars worth of
Mulleavy EFS forfeited assets to
be sent for use in Ukraine. The
first such instance of forfeited
Russian money being used in such
a way
John C Dvorak: as a lawsuit
waiting to happen.
Adam Curry: Where you're going
to do is the International
Criminal Court. And yours,
there's,
John C Dvorak: there's Yeah,
international law. Yeah, no,
Vance, this bullcrap. And
Adam Curry: what we discussed,
what
John C Dvorak: is that guy got
to do with it, the price of
bread, and
Adam Curry: you said it wouldn't
happen? And I said it would. And
he said it wouldn't happen. Yes,
you do what they say You said
that's exactly what you just
said. It'll never happen.
There's international law
against that. That's exactly
what you said. That's probably
what I said. Then you're right.
And I said, you don't know what
you're talking about. And I was
right. Do you know what I'm
talking about? They don't care.
Except they don't care. Exactly.
Dora does Europe.
Unknown: More than 40 countries
as a summit of European leaders
have agreed a plan to make
Russia pay for its war in
Ukraine. The Register of damages
has been one of the major
talking points at the Council of
Europe meeting in the Icelandic
capital, Reykjavik. Also on the
agenda is approached by the
Prime Ministers of the UK and
the Netherlands to build an
international coalition to boost
Ukraine's air combat
capabilities.
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. So we just
wrap it all together. You see
what's happening here. We need
some money. And then we need
some money because they need to
pay for some of our weapons. So
let's take that money that we
took and let's buy some weapons
with it. And Zelinsky when
shopping
Unknown: prisons last case
continuous European tour a
meeting with the British prime
minister after talks with the
Pope and the French president
this weekend, senior foreign
correspondent and panel as the
latest Good morning in
Yeah, good morning, George UK
just confirming the delivery of
these long range missiles that
Tom was talking about after a
weekend for apparently surprise
visits for Zelinsky ahead of
those sheduled meetings in
Italy, first with the Pope and
then with the Italian Prime
Minister, in turn the German
sending a plane to bring him to
Berlin. Then last night, the
French sending a plane to
whisking to Paris for dinner
with Macron. And then this
morning, a surprise visit here
in London with Prime Minister
Sunak with multiple pledges of
tanks, armored vehicles, long
range missiles and drones. And
training for fighter pilots and
soldiers is looking a lot like a
crucial last minute shopping
trip ahead of the upcoming
counter offensive, I think a
chance to show America that the
major European allies really are
trying to pull their weight. So
Lensky telling journalist in
Italy the offensive is in the
final stages of preparation, and
the first steps will be taken
soon. But I think the Ukrainians
know that the pressure is now on
to show more results on the
battlefield as soon as possible
to keep that aid flowing. How
stupid
Adam Curry: is this? I do not
understand how you can keep
saying that's common. We're
getting ready. We're about to do
it. Are you ready? But pay
attention but we'll we'll let
you know. In fact, they're
probably going to announce it
the day before tomorrow is the
day the spring offensive which
is now going to be in fall.
Spring is over isn't it? So are
we in summer yet or is it still
spring? But this is still spring
still spring when
John C Dvorak: it's summer?
Summer shortly June.
Adam Curry: Okay, well, we can
still make it under the wire.
But no, but no. Oh, no, no, I'm
John C Dvorak: gonna make it
they're not gonna do it.
Adam Curry: While he do he just
went shopping. So now there's
some Yeah,
John C Dvorak: cuz he got they
got orders. They got orders to
ship to Somalia. Dan,
Adam Curry: be up. No. Yeah,
it's interesting. You say that?
Before I bring in the Wagner
group. Listen, who's trying to
help out with this conflict.
Unknown: This unexpected African
peace initiative has garnered
attention and support from
various quarters, demonstrating
the potential for diplomacy to
transcend borders and forging
alliances over the
weekend, I had the opportunity
to represent the views of a
number of African leaders with
regards to a peace mission that
those African leaders have been
talking about for quite a number
of months and consulting amongst
themselves with regards to how
Africa can make a contribution
to bring about a solution to the
conflict in Ukraine. We have
been talking about as African
leaders, because we concluded
that conflict in that part of
the world much See does not
affect Africa directly in the
form of deaths and destruction
to infrastructure. It does have
an impact on the lives of many
Africans. With regard to food
security, the prices of
fertilizers have gone up. Prices
of cereals have gone up. And the
prices have fewer people of
African heads of states took the
view that Africa does need to
put forward an initiative a
peace initiative that could help
to contribute to the solution of
that conflict.
Adam Curry: So this of course
has nothing to do with Ukraine
Africa doesn't give a crap about
Ukraine what they care about is
Russia's money Russia's mining
for mineral wealth etc. Yes,
John C Dvorak: there's that
element but don't you have you
maybe had to sidestep I've got
two clips. Okay, cool. They do
care. I think Iran I think they
care because they're gonna
starve to death if you listen to
another unreported on the
Western media aspect of the war,
which is kinda reminds me the
star cozy clip I played earlier.
Play that we'll start with this
one, which is Ukraine and grain
spring
Unknown: in western Ukraine.
This young wheat will be ready
to harvest in two months, but
farmers here worried they won't
be able to sell it because the
war has severely disrupted
exports. Selena's family has
owned this farm for decades. She
says Russia's blockade of black
sea ports and new import
restrictions in some EU
countries are hampering trade.
Ah, there it is. ethology. Yuck,
sits the port blockades, we've
not being able to send by sea.
So we started exporting via our
western border to Poland and
Hungary. But now they've banned
our grains. So our trucks have
to carry our products all the
way to Italy, Poland, Hungary
and three other countries
recently banned imports of
Ukrainian grain to prevent a
glut. Although the grain can
still transmit through them.
It's forced this farm to find
new clients further afield. But
logistics of pushing up costs.
And not being able to export
easily means millions of dollars
worth of grain could be lost.
Usually at this time of year,
all of the grain on this farm
would have been sold. But
because of the war, and all the
problems linked to it, half of
last year's harvest is still
here having to be stocked in the
silos. And in these huge plastic
sleeves.
Adam Curry: I think this
complement what I'm saying this
Well, hold on. Let me just
finish. And then you can play
your second one. This
complements it because you can't
make a deal unless you have
something to offer. They have
something to offer. They can
take money from China, money
from America or money from
Russia. That's what they're
offering up and all of Africa is
being courted by everybody. And
there and so I think what
they're saying is Russia will go
with you if you if you let us
eat.
John C Dvorak: No, they did let
them eat. They still have to,
they have to get this war result
because the Russians part part
two of this clip actually brings
Africa into it as I think it's
pretty revealing.
Unknown: Well, shrinking
resources are causing strain
across the African continent and
the Ukraine war has only made it
worse. South Africa's president
says six African countries will
send a peace mission to Ukraine
and Russia as soon as possible.
Senegal is one of the countries
involved. Nicholas Hogg reports
from Dhaka,
a peace initiative by six
African nations mediating an end
to the war in Ukraine. The
announcement was made by South
African President Cyril
Ramaphosa.
The two leaders that I had
occasion to speak to that is
President Putin and President
Zelensky agreed that they will
be willing to receive the
mission of the African heads of
states in both Moscow and Kyiv.
Despite pressure from Western
countries, most African
countries have abstained from
voting on resolutions at the UN
Security Council condemning
Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Meanwhile, Russia has been
building close economic and
military ties with states in
Africa since the war began.
So crazy. I believe Ukraine
really needs to take steps
forward to meet the countries of
the African continent. We didn't
work well, for many years. We
didn't pay attention. I think
it's a big mistake. Ukraine is
one of the biggest exporters of
wheat to Africa. Russia is one
of the largest exporters of
fertilizer to the continent. The
heads of state of Zambia,
Senegal, the Republic of Congo,
Uganda, Egypt, and South Africa
are set to meet with the two
leaders as soon as possible, but
many are questioning whether the
African peace initiative can
succeed when others have failed.
Adam Curry: No, I think this is
the way it's gonna go and and
run Russia has a huge incentive
to be big man on campus in
Africa, the whole continent is
open and there and here the Six
Nations ready to negotiate
Africa.
John C Dvorak: If they can sell
the idea that we're the ones
responsible for the there you go
the war. We're obviously the
ones responsible for trying to
starve the Africans.
Adam Curry: Yes, it's time for
another live eight verse Bano.
Okay, so now let's look at the
Wagner group because there's a
lot of things going on with
them. France 24 did a very long
expose a I've cut it into just a
couple of pieces. Because once
you hit the second clip, you
already know that this people
laugh at me. They're telling me
I'm stupid. Saved. This is not
true. These guys are for real,
but they're the real. They're
the real. The real fighters.
They're really doing all the
work. I'm calling bull crap on
all of it. This is a Dad's Army
a fictional thing. And I've
never seen more than five guys
in front of this fat dude who's
not just Putin Putin chef, but
he's an oligarch and listen to
this report from F 24.
Explaining the Wagner group the
only fighting force we hear
about from Russia. We don't hear
about Russian troops. We hear
about any any troop movements
anymore. Not all the Bogner
group, the Wagner group back
moved back in the group.
Unknown: Let's talk about the
Wagner group
secretive Russian mercenary
group shadowy
private security company that
has ties to the Kremlin group
has a gruesome reputation.
The Wagner group has been around
for about 10 years. And its
forces have shown up in all
sorts of places, from Syria, to
Mali, to Mozambique.
What's interesting is
essentially acting as a proxy
for the Russian government in
different armed conflicts.
And recently, they've been
getting a lot of attention
because of what they're doing in
Ukraine.
Wagner went from being this
small, Special Forces like
mercenary group in Africa to
sort of large Cannon Fodder on
the fields of Ukraine.
So what do we actually know
about the Wagner group? What it
does, where it operates? And
who's behind it?
Adam Curry: Now, okay, whoo,
this sounds like a real
Cinderella story. In this next
piece, you'll hear a
representative from the CSIS
Center for Strategic and
International Studies. Another
one of those groups, and they'll
tell you about how dangerous
this Wagner group really is.
Unknown: Longer group is
secretive and hard to define.
Basically, they get paid to send
their armed personnel to
different countries, you could
say that makes them mercenaries,
but that word has a legal
definition that doesn't always
fit with what they do. They're
also often described as a PMC, a
private military company. That
doesn't quite fit either.
Because Wagner isn't just one
company,
it's better thought of as a
loose network of companies,
financial intermediaries that
are all linked together, in as
opaque away as possible so as to
make it difficult to understand
what their financial and
organizational links are, and to
make it very difficult to hold
them accountable for their
actions. Does this
Adam Curry: sound like anything?
This is not like Eric Prince's
outfit. This is something else.
To me it's ghost.
Unknown: Now, the group first
appeared in 2014. When Russia
illegally annexed Crimea and
sided with pro Russian
separatists in eastern Ukraine.
Footage of masked soldiers and
unmarked uniforms started
cropping up. People were calling
them little green men, and at
least some of them were linked
to the Wagner group. Now no name
is in reference to the German
composer Richard Wagner, who was
Hitler's favorite, and vogner
was apparently the battlefield
callsign used by a guy named
Dmitry Utkin, who used to be a
Special Forces officer in the
Russian military. He's often
been talked about as the group's
founder and is reportedly still
involved. But the man you really
need to know about is Yevgeny
Prigogine. A Russian oligarch
Adam Curry: so when I heard the
little green men in Ukraine in
2014, that's when I knew that
this whole Wagner group thing is
bullcrap. We know the little
green men we know who was
responsible for the killing on
the My Dawn, it was not the
Wagner group. And please, the
insult of throwing in the Oh
yeah, it's called Wagner because
you know that love Hitler? Yeah,
it's named after Hitler's
favorite composer. I mean, this
is propaganda. And here's the
chef to oligarchy story.
Unknown: In late 2022, he came
out of the shadows. There are
now several videos of Prigogine
that work with his forces on the
ground and trying to sign up.
New recruits for Goshen also
published this statement,
claiming that he founded the
group Back in 2014, he
officially registered the
company as a consulting business
and opened up a flashy new
headquarters in St. Petersburg,
which is significant
not only for being Wagner his
first official headquarters
first formal existence, on paper
and on property, but also for
the fact that it is located on
Russian soil, where PMCS are
technically illegal.
Now precautions relationship
with Putin goes back to the
1990s. They're from the same
city of St. Petersburg, where
Prigogine went from selling hot
dogs to owning several
restaurants. And Putin was a
regular customer. After becoming
president. He brought along some
pretty well known dignitaries,
and Prigogine picked up the
nickname of Putin chef. Soon he
was scoring some pretty
lucrative catering contracts,
including for the Russian
military. Over the years, he's
become super rich, politically
influential, and has built up a
media empire to
Adam Curry: know Okay, so this
guy is fabulous. He's got
everything going for him, except
it's starting to unravel. And
now we go back to our favorite
topic, the leaked documents from
the kid in the discord chat
room. Now things are unraveling
for the Wagner group because the
leaked documents are telling us
something that is not does not
shine favorably upon but
Gaussian precaution Shima
Koshien, whatever the guy's name
is, and that dog guy, the hot
dog guy exactly from hot dog guy
to media mogul,
Unknown: an act of treason or an
attempted set up. According to
The Washington Post Wagner owner
and founder Yevgeni particular
sheen allegedly offered to
reveal the positions of Russian
troops to the Ukrainian
government back in January in
exchange for keep withdrawing
its troops from Bahamas where
Wagner's mercenaries had been
paying a heavy price for months
in the ongoing war. The Russian
oligarch called the allegations
nonsense. He also denied claims
of having met the head of
Ukrainian military intelligence
and an unnamed African country
and suggested he was being set
up by some of Moscow's
elitist mob was revered in this
just because I was here I can
say with certainty that I
haven't been in Africa, at least
since the beginning of the
conflict in Ukraine and even in
the month before the start of
the special military operation.
I couldn't physically meet
anyone their new skin,
your new mock the claims from
the Washington Post are based on
the secret US documents leaked
to the group chat platform
discord in April. The
allegations come after
precaution publicly called out
several high ranking members of
the Russian military commander,
accusing them of withholding
ammunition and weapons from his
men and not supporting Wagner
troops and back. For its part,
the Kremlin has dismissed the
accusations as hearsay.
No, I can't comment on it. But
it looks like another hoax.
Unfortunately, even publications
that were respected in the past
have become accustomed to this.
Meanwhile, Washington has
declined to comment on the
newspapers report.
Adam Curry: Okay, so notice
there's Africa again, Africa in
the picture clearly in the
picture of this quagmire. And
this Washington Post report,
which came out Saturday was
sections were deleted on Sunday.
Here's a section that was
deleted from this Washington
Post report. This is an
interview with Zelinsky WaPo. I
says, the documents indicate
that the G EUR your Intelligence
Directorate has backchannel
contact with even G Poghosyan.
That you are aware of including
meeting with Prigogine and G who
are officers? Is that true?
Zelinsky. This is a matter of
military intelligence. Do you
want me to be convicted of state
treason? And so it's very
interesting if someone is saying
that you have documents, which
were the leaked documents, or if
someone from our government is
speaking about the activities of
our intelligence, I would also
like to ask you a question with
which sources from Ukraine Do
you have contacts who was
talking about the activities of
our intelligence? Because this
is the most severe felony our
country? Which Ukrainians are
you talking about? WaPo I talked
to officials in government but
these documents are not from the
Ukraine they are from Zelinsky
doesn't matter where the
documents are from. The question
is which Ukrainian official Did
you talk to you because if they
say something about our
intelligence, that's treason. If
they say something about a
specific offensive plan of one
general or another, it is also
treason. That is why I asked you
which Ukrainians are you are you
talking to? This was all
deleted. But luckily, we have
Judge Napolitano on the case the
Washington
Unknown: Post is claiming that
you have Jenny precaution. You
remember he we've run the clips
of him many times. He is the
Russian oligarch. He's a self
made billionaire who runs
something called the Wagner
group. The Wagner group was
originally established by I, the
old Gru Gru is the initials for
what used to be called Russian
military intelligence, if
different initials and different
names now, but basically the
same people. So, precaution but
some of his money in the GRU put
some of their money in, and they
got these special forces types.
And then they got prisoner
types. And then they got killer
types. And then they got
veterans. And they put together
this group of soldiers of
fortune, and they fight where
the Russian president wants
them. And they've been pretty
effective and even ruthless
fighters in Ukraine. So what has
changed now now back to this
allegation, if precaution had
offered to give Russian military
plans, the most secret plans
there are about where Russian
troops are located, and from
where they plan to attack to
Russia's mortal enemy. I would
think that he'd be in a gulag in
Siberia by now. So either he
offered to do this as part of a
Russian plot to give false
plans, or he never offered to do
this. And the CIA has persuaded
the Washington Post which has
been a mouthpiece for the CIA
for 60 years, six zero years, or
the CIA persuaded the Washington
Post to go with the story in the
Washington Post did so
uncritically. So I don't know if
this is true or not. But I want
you to know that it's out there
these allegations that
precaution made this offer, I
believe this is either entirely
made up by the CIA or precaution
did make this offer. But it
wasn't offered to give them
false information and false
hope, which would result in
their destruction.
Adam Curry: What do you think is
really going on here, John?
John C Dvorak: Well, the first
thing I think of when I think of
the white Guru is middlemen for
the black market. Yeah, for
nothing and minerals and stuff.
Mainly, well, maybe minerals,
one direction and arms, our arms
that we're sending over there
and the other direction, because
I don't see those arms are being
used wisely. Or
Adam Curry: even at all. We know
they're showing up all over
Africa. We know that so
John C Dvorak: there's something
fishy going on. I think this guy
in he's kind of I know what kind
of an oligarch he is. But bike
market would be one good way of
being that we did, especially in
the restaurant business where
you can do money laundering. The
whole thing is, I don't know. I
have no idea. It's a mess. I
don't I don't believe any of it.
Adam Curry: No, I think it's all
it's all of it's phony. It's all
phony baloney of deceit that
this is the last two clips. I
love the France 24 explanation.
I mean, you make this in this
whole thing and no one really
knows. And it's all complicated.
But oh yeah, you know, Wagner,
and especially the Hitler's
favorite composer is this. It
has fake written all over it
from
John C Dvorak: you and you bring
a Hitler into the conversation.
That's a red flag.
Adam Curry: Here's Nora
O'Donnell on Putin's private
army
Unknown: now to a CBS News
investigation into Russia's
vogner group. That's a private
paramilitary organization with
close ties to President Vladimir
Putin. Now most know the group
through its involvement in the
war in Ukraine, but one of its
main sources of funding comes
from working with unsavory
regimes around the world. The US
labeled them a transnational
criminal organization. Hmm. CBS
Deborah PATA followed the
mercenary groups trail to
Central Africa.
Being Vladimir Putin's a tech
dog in Ukraine requires deep
pockets. That's why Bob the
Busey of Guinea through Goshen
relies on plundering natural
resources 1000s of miles away
here in the Central African
Republic. In exchange, Wagner
provides mercenary muscle to
prop up the country's leader.
Here, you see most Russian
fighters actually guarding the
president. documents obtained by
CBS news show how valid there is
given government contracts to
exploit car gold mines and
forests through a galaxy of
shell companies. oarsmen not his
real name told us he was
tortured by the mercenaries who
seized his family's gold
business, he said ca RS minerals
and would help fund the group's
criminal activities.
Adam Curry: I think you're right
I think this is exactly what's
going on. These guys are they're
probably just getting all the
way get all these weapons from
the US I will take these we'll
take these we'll take these and
send them back down to Africa.
Africa is gone. Hey, we got a
pretty good gig going on here.
But you know, we've we're pretty
strong in this now let's let us
eat. And we'll see if we can do
some business with the with
Russia that how
Unknown: does the US designated
transnational criminal
organization An exported Gold
Bug Net they have total control
of the airport or smart explains
and a cargo plane flying between
Moscow and Bungie. Sure, CBS
News secretly recorded this
Bogner cargo plane just after it
landed in the capital. From car
that plane went dark over
Africa, before turning up in the
United Arab Emirates. Soon after
another plane also lands there
from Moscow. The two aircraft
overlap for about eight hours,
plenty of time to potentially
transfer cargo before heading
back to where they came from.
This web of deceit allows
Prigogine to evade sanctions and
rake in the billions that fund
his criminal empire and his
private army in Ukraine. State
Department officials have told
us that the US is working to
limit precautions ability to
profit from others operations in
Africa and that it is engaging
all countries who may be
facilitating this knowingly or
unknowingly.
Adam Curry: I think we both kind
of stumbled onto the same thing
Africa Africa is the cat bird
here this is this is this is the
theater
John C Dvorak: you know this is
interesting where they do the
deal there they transfer the
planes or goods or whatever the
hell they're doing in the United
Arab Emirates and so they're
stealing gold go at the UAE is
where is one of the biggest gold
markets in the world. I mean,
there's a whole area in Dubai I
visited which is just a gold
district. It's like a you know,
it's like the Jewelry District
Right? Right. You can buy all as
gone they sell you gold in any
form you want bracelets
necklaces, or buy them with the
current weight the way it it's
it's astonishing gold market.
And so I think they're taking
the gold there. And that's kind
of left out of the report
because this all black market
stuff. These guys are black
market tears.
Adam Curry: This is great. For
sure it has nothing to do with
Ukraine.
John C Dvorak: Now it's got
nothing to do it Ukraine.
Adam Curry: With Ukraine. This
is international goods, weapons.
All kinds of gold black market
stuff. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: A lot of taxpayer
a lot of American taxpayer money
stuff.
Adam Curry: Yes. And what do we
know about Ukraine corrupt? It's
where you want to where you
exactly where you want to
operate all this stuff from
perfect? Yeah, no, no,
John C Dvorak: I think we've
been taken for a
Adam Curry: ride, I would say.
Oh, goodness gracious. Oh, I do
have a quick report about the
next pandemic. It's about time
for bird flu. They've tried it
several times in our past. No,
no, no, they're gonna bring it
from Canada and I know how
Unknown: poultry farmers in
Quebec are grappling with a
series of outbreaks of deadly
avian flu. The province has
never seen so many Kaos
Adam Curry: deadly avian flu,
not bird flu, deadly avian flu
Unknown: cases. And right now
it's Canada's epicenter for the
disease. Let's get more from the
CBC. Sarah Levitt joins us live
from Montreal. Sarah, what is
the situation in Quebec right
now?
Well, Hannah, it's not good for
poultry farmers. Right now the
latest numbers were about 20
Farms in all were found to be
infected with the avian flu.
That's not good news for those
farmers. It means having to
either euthanize either the
birds die from the flu or they
have to euthanize the entire
flock. And you know, the vectors
and all this are usually
migratory birds. So we're in an
area there's a goose right
nearby, but I'm a little scared
so I didn't go too close to our
feet. But this is an area of
Montreal where a lot of geese
come by and the birds are the
vectors in this they end up
going to those farms and
infecting rather even if it's
directly or indirectly the
domestic fowl
Adam Curry: we've got to kill
the Canadian Geese
John C Dvorak: they're gonna
brat that's that's bad news for
me. Why? This is what this
Albany Berkeley areas were most
of them come to roost during at
some part of the year they just
blow a day go by the house.
Yeah, in in V formation on
aunque.
Adam Curry: And you saw you saw
the reporter was like, I'm
afraid I'm not getting too close
to this goose over here. Yes,
the Canadian geese that they are
the migrant. They're that
they're bringing the deadly
avian flu. They also get into
airplane engines.
John C Dvorak: They're mean
birds by the way.
Adam Curry: One of our producers
was on a CDC call earlier in the
week. And there is now a seventh
airport pilot program where the
CDC once an aircraft lands to
another country. You gets
samples from the laboratory and
sends them off to the lab to
test them for PCR for anything
they want to find.
John C Dvorak: They can find
anything they want, as we know
that the PCR test actly.
Adam Curry: Exactly. People are
sick, so they can do anything
they want. Oh, deadly avian bird
flu. We found it. We just spun
up the PCR cycles to 50. We
found it. We got it for a new
variant of COVID or whatever
they don't
John C Dvorak: know. I think the
P I think you're probably right
about because they gotta change
the messaging every so often.
And we've been primed. Don't
forget that. Yes, we've been
primed for bird flu for at least
a decade.
Adam Curry: Ah, all right, one
more and then we'll take our
final break here. This is about
the fabulous weight loss drugs
including ozempic and there's a
new thing here. Now this is from
our friend Becky Worley who did
this report on Good Morning
America. Have you seen Becky
recently?
John C Dvorak: Not in person
now. On the TV? Oh, no. No,
Adam Curry: we recently we have
to talk to her lipstick is too
dark. It's just it's too dark
for for her hair color
everything what is a she should
John C Dvorak: have okay, I mean
they should have people they
should have people telling her.
Adam Curry: She needs her
friends like Adam and John who
knew her a note yet please do is
just to you'll see it I'll send
you the clip is too dark. So she
she did a test. A whole piece
was like six minutes. I cut out
all the testimonials in the
middle but they all say the same
thing. Here we go
Unknown: got our weight loss
revolution series to give deep
dive into the new class of
weight loss drugs that have seen
a meteoric rise in popularity
and use. Becky Worley joins us
now with more on the reported
side effects of these drugs and
what happens to people who are
taking them. Good morning,
Becca.
Lindsey. Good morning. Yeah,
millions of Americans have been
prescribed injectable weight
loss drugs but with one study
saying 75% of users experienced
side effects. We want to know
how severe they are and people
feel like they're worth it. And
doing my research for this
piece. I kept hearing the same
thing that Lee just said these
drugs quiet the food noise or
the cravings to eat. Lindsay
it's a brain and body drug.
Back into piece also mentioned
things like nausea and GI
issues, you have the possibility
for more serious side effects as
well.
Well, the makers of ozempic we
go via and Manjaro say if you
experience any side effects, you
need to contact your health care
provider. Your question there
are no reported irreversible
side effects associated with
using these drugs. However,
thyroid tumors did appear in lab
tests of the three drugs on mice
and rats so people with personal
or family history of thyroid
cancer should avoid them. One
more thing we should mention
these drugs are often not
covered by insurance and can be
costly. I wouldn't have more on
that later this week.
Adam Curry: It's a brain and
body drug. It calms down the
food noise inside your head.
What is this stuff doing to you?
That can't be good. That can't
be good.
John C Dvorak: No, of course
not. It's just a diabetic drug
for people with really bad
diabetes.
Adam Curry: And you know what it
is? It's magic, John, it's
magic.
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John C Dvorak: actually have a
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Cookie. Sorry, you must consider
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She needs her husband Andy de
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Adam Curry: it's not right.
That's wrong. That's wrong.
Wrong. Wrong. Man.
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I'm going to be happy to play
here. Christine, aka Mr. Scott.
I'm so glad everyone's here.
This is great. In the morning.
Hey, this is Alex with the
Austin meetup. This is Sir Chris
Callen Baron
Unknown: in North Austin. This
is Brendan for local
five folks. Hey, this is Chris
bag.
In the morning, Greg here from
buna Texas in the morning. This
is Cynthia,
this is danger ninja aka
Councilwoman Kelly it is nice to
seek asylum at a no agenda
meetup
as Jason did a bit I'm lost in
Austin and no TNC bots today.
This mark this is Minister cat
does Mr. Robot hey this is
Pastor
Jimmy hanging out with Adam
curry.
Rachel OC sir Brian with an eye
here with Sir C sharp of dotnet
here just a Rob here. This has
been from Best stroke. This is
the moss and Karen
Gordon wall Baron
surge on loan at the Austin
meetups is Casey wasty Williams
from San Antonio
in the morning from Louisiana
hashtag go South Dakota My
pronouns are queso and Jeff
thanks to Scott Adam. Everybody
I'm loving it here. Adam curry
for the first time dudes pretty
sick. Where
Adam Curry: here's the no agenda
okey who we who we meet up he
Unknown: James here. There's
gooey gooey meet up right now
happening. Adam and John you're
the best this is David Cassidy
never stopped in the morning.
I am not a spook in the morning.
I do believe I will say we're
having a good time. Hey guys,
Dave here, John. Turn your
speakers up.
We'd love to see you guys at an
Oklahoma meet up come to
Oklahoma. Hey Dan, come
to Oklahoma. It's not that far.
Hannah may one Whelan
millennial, probably the spook
surprise your night of
astonishment at a new living by
Baja Oklahoma. COVID.
Adam Curry: See us sometime.
Yeah. We send everybody to
Oklahoma. Tell him it's also
Texas. All right. Thank you. Two
other written reports. One from
the it was the second northwest
Houston meetup from Barron's or
economic hitman. He says it was
a big success. He had the famous
Rolando Gonzalez and his wife
Sarah, as well as Brian aka
speedskater and his family. It
was raining pretty hard,
unfortunately. So gray night
couldn't find us who tried to
join and the Portland Oregon
meet up the surf soiree, which
just Steph Steph held at her
house about 13 blocks from their
usual slave story hanging out
Dick's primal burger. After
weeks of 50 degrees and rain the
weather finally cooperated. They
had a wonderful evening sitting
on the deck enjoying beer and
barbecue Do burgers and broths
and completely not mellow Great
Dane and a mellow little lap
dog. Amazing to realize most of
the group has known each other
for more than two years now. One
person has only ever come to our
meetup once. And it was great to
see him back. A great success.
This is what these meetups are.
They're fantastic to be a part
of. And here's her lavish who
just donated with a promo for
the next meetup. He's hosting.
Unknown: No, no, no agenda
Meetup is two days. certifies
independence Concord East Bay
meetup San Francisco Oakland
Sacramento comes to my meetup
seven VM grenade is in the mail
John
Adam Curry: yes indeed the North
Idaho Sandy brigade Third
Thursday meet up is kicks off
today at five o'clock in Selkirk
Abby post Idaho Falls the
divided and conquered East Bay
meet up seven at the hop grenade
Concord, California. Charlotte's
Thursday Third Thursday monthly
meet up at seven edge tavern
Charlotte, North Carolina. The
second leg and amygdala checkup
is well underway if not over the
Staats Brauhaus in Laden in late
in the Netherlands on Saturday,
the London limited hangout 230
British time the gypsy moth and
Greenwich gypsy moth Greenwich
in London, the star chamber of
Idaho on Saturday at El Mariachi
and star Idaho. The last chance
grip and grin 330 At the last
chance pub and cider mill in
Billings, Montana. Also on
Saturday, the New York City no
agenda drinking club gets
together at four o'clock at
Ocean smart Sports Bar and Grill
brownstone Billiards in
Brooklyn. That should be fun. A
lot of meetups this Saturday,
the Steel City potluck meet up
at fourth private house so make
sure you talk to me about that.
Spot the spook five o'clock at
the west end grill in
Huntsville, Alabama. On Sunday
our next show day we're still
here 505 meet up one o'clock at
Urban 360 Pizza in Albuquerque
New Mexico that's our very own
nights with Jeff tow AIG hosting
that the crossroads of America
tribes Southside prodigy edition
three o'clock at prodigy burger
and bar Indianapolis, Indiana
and the final one for Sunday the
Bitcoin Pizza Day 220 23 330
Central Rotolo is pizza in
Longview Texas your organizer
there sir dirty Jersey whore
those the no agenda meetup just
a couple of them for the next
few days they're everywhere all
around the world almost every
single day to find out more go
to no agenda meetup.com
Guaranteed always a party with
me you see is like a big ask
party really big party, big
party. Crew lot of meetups just
crazy. People love in their
meetups. Don't I mean are you
still alive? I'm right here. All
right, I'm gonna give you my two
choices for ISO here's number
one.
Unknown: Everybody in Washington
gets all we don't.
Adam Curry: I'd never heard this
font from Obama. I kind of liked
it. And here's Schwarzenegger
who's out on the climate trail.
Climate change trail again,
climate it's time it's time it's
time to time exam exam.
John C Dvorak: That's all I got.
Was it? Yeah, that's all I got.
Alright, I have one the
candidates is Michael Douglas.
He went he got an award for
lifetime achievement award at
Cannes,
Adam Curry: Cannes.
John C Dvorak: That comes
Holland Khan's comps at Cannes.
And so he does so that he gave
me an ISO. All right,
Adam Curry: Michael, come on in.
John C Dvorak: And Merci
beaucoup.
Adam Curry: I mean, I like it.
Merci. Merci beaucoup. To you
too, sir. I like it as good. We
can take that one.
John C Dvorak: What are we up
and go out with one clip?
Adam Curry: Alright, three. We
got three bucks and four and 40
cents. Let's go watch a clip.
John C Dvorak: This is a tribute
attribute clip. No. I'm Claire
Daly. Car friend. Yes. socialist
communist. She's a real one,
though. Oh, gee, yeah. Claire de
Leon, Julian Assange.
Unknown: Pretty impressive that
the parliament has swung into
action. So quickly in relation
to the case of anti Putin, anti
Ukrainian war journalists flood
Mayor Karen Morrison, who was
given a 25 year prison sentence
this week for his journalism. A
sentence rightly slammed by the
EU as outrageously harsh is is
but it's still 150 years less
than Julian Assange will get if
he's convicted and prosecuted in
the US for his anti war
journalism. exposing us war
crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He's been in prison for over
four years. Tonight. He's pre
freedom for many more yet we've
never had one of these
discussions in here calling for
his release. We've never had one
discussion about the case of
Pablo Gonzalez imprisoned in
Poland for the last year for his
anti war journalism. Unless
we're consistent in these
motions, they're nothing more
than meaningless geopolitical
Shams the instrumentalisation of
human rights for political ends
that is not good enough. You
know,
Adam Curry: I like her and I
think what she says of course is
spot on but she doesn't have
that. That see needs the humor
element that that our boy had.
Faraj Faraj Faraj had something
good there that just was a
little extra, a little extra
thing. He
John C Dvorak: had it a
different kind of disdain and
kind of an upper class. British
disdain she needs to do she has
kind of a middle class Irish to
stay. It's not the same Scots
Irish.
Adam Curry: It's missing some
The X Factor. I mean, it is
missing the X Factor. Curry
Devorah Consulting Group can
help you out ma'am. Give us a
call deck Becky Warli. Same
thing. We're good. We're good to
help everybody. End of show
mixes tyrannical list. Tom
Starkweather. Sir Michael
Anthony. And coming up next on
no agenda stream. rare encounter
with cold acid and Abel Kirby.
Oh, man, I don't know what what
they're doing today. They do all
kinds of nutty stuff on the
stream. That's no agenda
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Here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry
John C Dvorak: in from Northern
Silicon Valley. I'm John C.
Devorah.
Adam Curry: We will return on
Sunday with another fun packed
jam packed show full of
deconstruction just for you.
It's what we do. Remember us at
DeVore act.org/na Until then,
adios mofos a hui Hui Pena such.
Unknown: This is Paris's first
zero carbon neighborhood in
Eleuthera to our fertile Island.
Four buildings surround a
central garden. Within this
small locality. You can live
work shop, or play sports. It's
built on a 1.3 hectare former
industrial site bordered by
railway tracks. I wonder why
we'll need those. The buildings
are made from locally sourced
materials and low carbon
concrete. They are designed to
minimize the need for heating
and cooling. Heat pumps extract
the warmth from grey water that
is from showers, sinks and
washing machine and use it to
provide hot water around the
site. Swipe left for more. I'm
the theoretical list.
John C Dvorak: I would like to
make some commentary about this.
Okay, first of all,
Adam Curry: she sounds like a
great mom.
John C Dvorak: Sounds a great
mom is going to help her to be
drinking kombucha.
Adam Curry: So you're not you're
not a fan of the common?
John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
the great the great
microbiologist that used to
teach at Evergreen up in
Washington who is now a
freelancer says the problem with
Kombucha is you don't know
what's in it, and it
Adam Curry: could kill you.
John C Dvorak: Well, I don't
know that it killed anybody, but
it could give you all kinds of
issues. I and most cambogia now
it's just vinegar water. They
don't even give you real Kim
Bucha is because the thing that
the mother that grows in it is a
combination of weird stuff that
is not it's not reproducible.
That's a real problem. Oh, you
Adam Curry: mean it's not? You
can't reproduce it with
accuracy.
John C Dvorak: Right? Yeah, we
can. Bucha is gonna be a little
different. And it's going to be
who knows where it's headed.
It's not those are not friendly
bacteria, necessarily,
Adam Curry: you know what you
should do? You should consider
writing a book about this. You
know, I was gonna do a book on
vinegar.
John C Dvorak: I'll get back to
that.
Unknown: My fellow New Yorkers,
I have a confession to make. The
truth is, this is hard to admit,
but your mayor is mentally ill.
I cannot take care of my own
basic needs. No matter how much
people try to help me. I
absolutely refuse to eat meat.
My Other symptoms include being
a Democrat and illusions of
swagger. So to demonstrate the
effectiveness of my supporters
interventions act, I'm gonna be
the first mental patient to be
involuntarily hospitalized under
my own policies by all Personal
police detail. They didn't
arrest me. Oh, shoot. Man,
you're under arrest. Y'all can't
arrest me. I'm the mayor. Come
with us, sir. No, I don't who
wants to go and shift
Adam Curry: yo MoPhO
vorak.org/in a.
John C Dvorak: Merci beaucoup.