0:00
John C Dvorak: Ah, incompatible
hardware. Adam curry,
0:03
Unknown: Jhansi Dvorak,
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Adam Curry: Sunday, May 21 2023.
This Year Award winning
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accumulation media assassination
episode 1557.
0:11
Unknown: This is no agenda,
0:14
Adam Curry: casing a charm
offensive. broadcasting live
0:17
from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in the region
0:19
number six in the morning,
everybody.
0:21
John C Dvorak: I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon
0:24
Valley, where we're all cheering
Karen a Fuji who's one eight in
0:28
a row in the main tournament.
I'm John Seymour. It
0:35
Adam Curry: never ceases to
amaze me. We're in the middle of
0:37
on the brink of a nuclear war.
We have all kinds of horrible
0:40
things happening climate change,
but we still have sumo wrestling
0:44
to fall back on.
0:47
John C Dvorak: And the big
Yokozuna is back
0:50
Adam Curry: are you all jacked?
How long has it been going on
0:52
the the the tour the
competition? Eight days, and
0:57
you've been watching every
single day?
1:00
John C Dvorak: I missed the
first day. Okay,
1:02
Adam Curry: and who are we
supposed to vote for your vote?
1:06
I have a route.
1:07
Unknown: I mean, Rudy the road
1:08
John C Dvorak: for deleting
goalscorer.
1:12
Adam Curry: Okay
1:14
John C Dvorak: terreno Fuji he's
the Yokozuna is the big guys a
1:17
big giant Mongolian
1:20
Adam Curry: on all these
ointment. Don't you have to be
1:22
Japanese by
1:23
John C Dvorak: no no. The big
guy the big boys of the last say
1:26
couple of decades have been
Samoan American Hawaiian. But
1:32
these big Mongolians are really
well and this guy is the top guy
1:38
and he's a Mongolian and Okay,
so Ben wonder pounds 200 That
1:43
doesn't seem like that's 400 400
1:47
Adam Curry: we know now in New
York, they're passing a bill you
1:50
can't discriminate against fat
people. Which I thought was
1:54
already Kenji already.
1:56
John C Dvorak: It was already a
rule.
1:57
Adam Curry: I think it's just
virtue signaling New York would
2:00
expect Oh, they're just
2:01
John C Dvorak: virtuous. Yes.
2:03
Adam Curry: We got a we got let
me kick it off with the super
2:06
cut little mini super cut from
from clip collector Steve Jones.
2:13
I missed it. I didn't even
realize this was going on. But
2:16
we know that a lot is happening.
g7 is the Lensky touring around.
2:21
Not just a tour though.
2:24
Unknown: Tonight charm offense.
Ukraine's president makes a so
2:29
stopping visit to the g7 summit
in Japan. hello to Mr. Lynch
2:33
keep pushing for more war aid
and rallying allies to stay the
2:37
course against Russia's
invasion.
2:39
For ultimate Zelensky knows
there's a growing debate across
2:42
Europe about how long Ukraine's
war effort can be supported. For
2:46
now. He's hoping that Sharma
fences pressure on his Western
2:49
allies to turn solidarity into
action
2:52
as president Solinsky he's been
on another charm offensive over
2:55
the last couple of days. What
has been Germany the Vatican
2:58
France and now the UK what he
needs what he wants
3:03
unsurprisingly is more weapons
and it
3:05
seems like Britain's gonna get
into this but he's also a much
3:07
needed charm offensive so there
is a lot a lot of backroom
3:11
bargaining and charm offensive
that needs to be done and he'll
3:14
be hoping to go home with a lot
in his back pocket F 16 fighter
3:18
jets from the Netherlands 18
million pounds apiece wants the
3:24
full arsenal the full money so
look, he's on charm offensive
3:27
and I think Eddie you probably
get
3:30
his trip to Japan. bruited about
reported online but now he's
3:34
actually there. I got
3:36
he is he arrived today and this
comes right in the middle of an
3:39
extended charm offensive for
3:41
Adam Curry: I'm telling you,
man, this is a worldwide
3:43
phenomenon. The charm, the charm
offensive. It's every station
3:48
all around the world.
3:52
John C Dvorak: The smells of
collusion is to get your talking
3:54
points from smells like
collusion to me. Love we're
3:58
gonna talk g7 I had the g7
report from I believe this is
4:01
NPR.
4:02
Adam Curry: All right. Well,
there's nothing like little NPR
4:04
in the morning
4:05
Unknown: and Pure White House
correspondent Scott Tetro joins
4:07
us from Hiroshima. Scott, thanks
for being with us.
4:10
John C Dvorak: Was it really
stopped there?
4:12
Adam Curry: Do we need to clip
that?
4:14
John C Dvorak: I did, because I
wanted to mention this thing.
4:16
Now. Why are Hiroshima instead
of Hiroshima? Well, I don't care
4:23
about the pronunciation. I'm
caring about the point that they
4:27
dropped an atom bomb on that
town. Yeah. And it wasn't like a
4:35
an a nuclear power plant that
melted down or anything. It was
4:38
a bomb that released all of his
fissionable material across the
4:44
whole area, but yet, just really
was in recent memory. They're
4:50
having meetings there. So how
dangerous nuclear power
4:56
Adam Curry: I don't know. And
also I think Nagasaki was booked
4:59
so they had to How to do it to
Hiroshima.
5:02
John C Dvorak: So the point is
is that why is why is the left
5:06
side still freakishly weird
about nuclear power when you're
5:09
having meetings? I think that's
a very a store and Cairo place
5:13
was decimated but not desperate.
It was blowed up by a nuclear
5:18
bombs flattened, flattened.
5:21
That's That's why I stopped
Texas. Let's go on.
5:24
Adam Curry: That's real. That's
a very good point. Because you
5:27
know, oh, we still can't go to
Chernobyl. Oh, no. There are
5:32
there are apparently there is an
expiration date on on nuclear
5:36
fallout and radiation
5:41
John C Dvorak: very expiration
date is coming first Chernobyl
5:44
Unknown: loading trip to Japan.
bruited about reported online
5:48
but now he's actually there I
got he
5:51
is he arrived today?
5:52
Adam Curry: What kind of intro
is this guy give no I guess it's
5:55
like he's there. He's actually
there. I gather disinterested in
5:58
his job. Listen to this
6:00
Unknown: and but now he's
actually
6:02
John C Dvorak: there. This guy
has a style all his own. Yeah,
6:04
it's
6:04
Unknown: a load of Merrill Lynch
case trip to Japan. bruited
6:07
about reported online at about
oh, he's actually there. I
6:10
Adam Curry: got what is bruited
about Brutus brooded?
6:14
John C Dvorak: I guess people
were brooding over it. I have no
6:16
idea how
6:17
Adam Curry: strange
6:18
Unknown: he is. He arrived
today. And this comes right in
6:20
the middle of an extended charm
offensive from Yeah, oh, just
6:24
coming ahead. What we expect
will be a major military
6:27
offensive from Ukraine.
Solinsky, remember, had not left
6:30
the country much for obvious
reasons for much of the first
6:33
year of the war. Then he had
that dramatic trip to Washington
6:36
at the end of last year. And
more recently, Zelinsky has been
6:39
visiting heads of government in
several countries to pressure
6:42
them to keep supporting Ukraine
as military costs keep going up.
6:46
And as the war keeps dragging on
the trip to the g7 comes
6:50
immediately after Zelinsky made
a similar case to the Arab
6:53
League in Saudi Arabia the other
day. We do not know much about
6:57
his exact agenda here in
Hiroshima, though the White
7:00
House is indicating he will
almost certainly have a one on
7:03
one meeting with President Biden
on Sunday.
7:06
And I gather there's a major
welcoming gift in the offing.
7:09
President Biden now indicates
that he would support Ukraine
7:13
acquiring F 16 fighter jets from
Western countries. That's a
7:17
change, isn't it?
7:18
It's a much larger gift than
they had in the gift bags for
7:21
the reporters covering.
7:24
Adam Curry: Wow, I bet you know
what, I'll pay you to actually
7:28
get gift bags.
7:29
John C Dvorak: Well, she that it
was who I stopped a clip there.
7:32
Adam Curry: This is this is a
dynamite little thing.
7:35
John C Dvorak: Now the question
in my mind is is this gift bags
7:39
are very commonplace in
Hollywood at the US Hollywood
7:43
and entertainment reporting.
7:47
Adam Curry: Entertainment
reporting being the key.
7:50
John C Dvorak: Exactly. And so
I'm thinking is this guy either
7:54
Are they are they are giving
away gift bags, because they
7:57
don't make it very clear that
they're not. And they joke about
8:01
it. The two of them laugh and
yucky. Or is it just that this
8:05
guy is like everybody else, I
guess on TV and entertainment
8:09
reporter forced to do real news
coverage, which is kind of my
8:15
guess, but I couldn't be wrong.
Maybe they did get a gift bag.
8:18
Adam Curry: I gotta give it to
you right off the bat. It's
8:20
early, but still, that we've
never heard the gift bags in
8:25
reporting. And this is NPR. You
can't horse around on NPR. Not
8:30
when it's when the world is on
fire. You can't do that.
8:35
John C Dvorak: I find it
peculiar. I like I think we have
8:37
one more or less. Yes, we do.
8:39
Unknown: But on a serious note,
this is a huge escalation and
8:42
how the US areas are arming
Ukraine, Ukraine had been
8:45
begging for these jets for more
than a year. I didn't resist it.
8:48
He was worried that this could
be something that would lead
8:50
Russia to broaden the war and
perhaps retaliate against other
8:54
countries. But now, this week,
Biden has told other g7 leaders
8:58
the US will support efforts to
train Ukrainian pilots on f 16
9:02
fighter jets, and begin
conversations about how to get f
9:05
16 from other countries to
Ukraine. And at a briefing
9:09
today, National Security Adviser
Jake Sullivan said the US has
9:12
adjusted its position based on
how Russia has waged its war and
9:16
how Ukraine has responded. He
also told us that as the US has
9:20
increased the magnitude of the
weapons it's providing one key
9:23
thing has been getting promises
from Ukraine that it will not
9:27
use them to attack inside
Russia. And he indicated that
9:30
that promise would be key when
it comes to these f6 teams
9:33
Adam Curry: will kind of
bullcrap promises that what's
9:35
the point of having if you can't
fly over Moscow? This
9:42
John C Dvorak: this is not
showing any signs of letting up.
9:44
Adam Curry: No, you're correct.
It doesn't. Well, but there's a
9:48
couple of things all happens in
the same few days. Including
9:52
this little report
9:53
Unknown: and accounting error at
the Pentagon overvalued US aid
9:56
sent the Ukraine by $3 billion.
Reuters cited today Defense
10:00
officials who said weapons taken
from the US military stock had
10:03
been assigned a much higher
value than they should have
10:06
been. The officials also say
there are inconsistencies in how
10:09
the equipment sent to Ukraine
has been valued. The error could
10:13
result in the US sending more
weapons to help against Russia.
10:16
Adam Curry: So we just magically
made we magically made 3 billion
10:20
appear thanks to an accounting
error.
10:23
John C Dvorak: So you can send
them more Yes, we
10:25
Adam Curry: can send them 3
billion more like that we
10:27
John C Dvorak: were sending and
I don't I thought we were
10:29
sending them weapons they
needed. I didn't think we were
10:32
sending them out, like value
that they need. And others what
10:38
why are they counting the
nickels and dimes here? Because
10:41
if you want a bullet, you want a
bullet whether it costs a nickel
10:43
dime or $1.
10:45
Adam Curry: Well, it's because
of the because of the amount of
10:47
money that has been appropriated
by Congress. So they needed a
10:50
little more apparently, for the
training that we know from our,
10:56
from our insiders in the
currently active military, that
11:01
f6 teams are fine, but you've
got to train the pilots, you
11:04
need to have ongoing
maintenance, you need to have
11:06
parts the maintenance you have
to you can't rewrite all the
11:10
manuals in Ukrainian so you need
Americans there boots on the
11:13
ground, which is what you've
been saying what would happen,
11:15
you need to have the right
facility for airport. So there's
11:19
a lot of things that have to
happen. And
11:24
John C Dvorak: this is not like
buying, you know, a just simple
11:27
drone.
11:27
Adam Curry: And also, according
to our contact, most of these
11:32
Ukrainian fighters will need
quite a jet fighter pilots will
11:36
need quite a lot of training
because they're just going to
11:38
ruin these jets. It's not as
simple as Oh, I'm flying to MIG
11:43
29 a beat up old piece of crap.
I'm going to jump in a f 16 and
11:47
fly it you know, takes a little
time. Now let's go to France 20
11:52
For the most honest for a new
service I've been able to find
11:56
and we bring in a the head
lecturer is this guy? Right? Is
12:04
this the guy? where's the
where's the lecture guy? Here we
12:07
go. The lecture guy, military
lecture, a guy from University
12:13
of Portsmouth, Oxford
12:14
Unknown: floodings, Utah. And is
this going to be too late for
12:18
the spring the counter offensive
that we hear so much about?
12:22
The spring counter offensive?
Oh, completely?
12:25
John C Dvorak: Wait a minute.
Yeah, I would say if it goes
12:29
into summer, yeah, it's too late
for the spring counter
12:31
offensive, but you can do a
summer, we're not even
12:33
Adam Curry: gonna get summer
this is going to take years
12:35
Unknown: Biden's Utah is this
isn't going to be too late for
12:39
the spring counter offensive
that we hear so much about,
12:42
oh, completely. These will not
be deployed in any numbers, we
12:47
may see some cosmetic deployment
before the end of the year. But
12:49
I suspect it'll be spring next
year before we see them
12:52
operating to their potential.
And that's when we may see them
12:56
flying around. But that isn't
operating to their potential.
12:58
These objects just as any
component of their power are
13:02
part of a much more complex
picture. They need to be
13:05
trained, exercised, maintained,
based to form part of that
13:11
system. And putting that system
together from not quite from
13:14
scratch. But there's a lot to do
will take many, many months, not
13:20
least the training of the
aircrew, ground crew and
13:23
preparation of the bases and a
lot more besides James,
13:25
Adam Curry: I'm so amazed at
France 24 is really the only
13:28
honest outfit out there. And so
of course, the question is what
13:32
really what changed? Does this
make what
13:34
Unknown: will realistically
changed here, but nothing much
13:37
they saber rattling threats for
the high Mars, the long range
13:43
artillery system in much earlier
in the war, calling all that
13:47
escalation this against the
background, of course, constant
13:50
bombardment day after day of
high high end cruise missiles,
13:53
most of which caused a shutdown
by the gift of anti aircraft
13:57
missiles by tanks. And now we
hear it's over jet. I don't
13:59
think we've much to worry about
just yet.
14:01
My question is, which of
Ukraine's allies are likely to
14:04
deliver on these jets? How many
are they going to need for this
14:07
to actually make the difference,
14:08
but probably need an excess of
30 to make any sorts of impact?
14:12
I think we won't know yet who
the donor countries are. All
14:17
countries are required to get to
all the countries that operated
14:20
right now are required by those
countries. There are constraints
14:23
as to the types that are sent.
There are constraints also on
14:27
the avionics that are inside the
jets that may need to be
14:30
modified to be sent to Ukraine.
So we won't know that I think
14:33
just yet but the coalition which
certainly existed as 16 donating
14:37
nations, we'll be thinking about
that very carefully right now.
14:40
But I would suggest it would
probably be a couple of European
14:43
countries.
14:44
Adam Curry: Yeah. And wouldn't
you know, in excess of 30 is
14:47
what he said. The Netherlands
just cancelled the deal between
14:52
the country and Drake, an
international US arms dealer, a
14:55
private company for the sale of
40 f 16. Fighters hmm Have they
15:01
finally gotten the Netherlands
to pony up? Looks like that's
15:05
where the disability meet. So
meanwhile, while this is all
15:09
taking place and we'll get to
Bach mood in a moment, kings
15:13
olanski is over in Saudi Arabia
of dressing the bros. They're
15:19
Unknown: here at the summit who
have a different view on the Hun
15:22
John C Dvorak: stop there you
get the timeline? Correct. He
15:24
was in Saudi Arabia before he
went to g7.
15:28
Adam Curry: Okay, but this is
all happening in the background.
15:32
Yeah. Okay.
15:32
Unknown: So here at the summit
who have a different view on the
15:36
war on our land, calling it a
conflict, I'm sure that we can
15:41
all be united in saving people
from the cages of Russian
15:47
prisons,
15:48
Adam Curry: the cages of Russian
prisons, it doesn't seem to be
15:51
about an attack on on Ukraine
anymore.
15:54
Unknown: Fortunately, there are
some in the world and here among
15:58
you who turn a blind eye to
those cages and illegal
16:03
annexations
16:04
Adam Curry: and what cages have
we missed something in the
16:07
reporting of cages or people
being
16:09
John C Dvorak: talking about
that journalist that was picked
16:11
up and thrown in jail? I
16:13
Unknown: to those cages and
illegal annexations and I'm here
16:18
so that everyone can take an
honest look, no matter how hard
16:24
the Russians tried to influence,
there must still be independence
16:30
in the occupied Crimea are
Muslim and more than SNA
16:33
Adam Curry: I don't understand
why this happened. The audio is
16:36
almost like it was an insert the
audio goes way down and then we
16:40
get something about the
occupiers of Muslim listen
16:42
again,
16:43
Unknown: there must still be
independence in the occupied
16:46
Crimea, Muslim and the
16:48
Adam Curry: occupied in Crimea
are Muslims. So that's his
16:51
appeal, I guess. And I'm not
16:53
John C Dvorak: yes, it was noted
on either news, our NPR that
16:58
this he was appealing to the
Muslims, claiming that Ukraine
17:04
is like a mother. You didn't
ever set it. And I think they
17:06
had to, I think that's
surprising to
17:09
Adam Curry: sounds inserted
17:10
John C Dvorak: because Because
Ukraine is not a Muslim country.
17:17
There's a pocket or two of
Muslims in Ukraine and he's
17:20
trying to make it sound as
though they're going to help
17:22
their fellow members of the
ummah.
17:25
Adam Curry: This is a chat GPT
glitch that went wrong.
17:29
Unknown: There must still be
independence in the occupied
17:32
Crimea. Muslim, I'm more than
sure that none of you will agree
17:38
to surrender a thought of your
country to the invaders. And I'm
17:43
more than sure none of you would
watch without a fight how
17:48
foreigners steal the children of
your people,
17:52
Adam Curry: our back to stealing
the children. Okay, that's what
17:56
we need to just the children got
it. Okay, so now we have the
18:01
news that Bach mood has been
taken has been taken by of
18:07
course, our favorite the Wagner
group.
18:09
John C Dvorak: And if you want
which clip Do you have because I
18:11
have one from NPR. That is,
well, I have a Deutsche Ella
18:15
sure BS.
18:17
Adam Curry: Let's do yours
first. Because Georgia Bella is
18:19
the CIA. So let's listen to
yours first. Hold on. What's it
18:24
called? Oh, a bull crap. No.
18:28
John C Dvorak: Yes, it's called
Ukraine.
18:31
Adam Curry: Oh, got it. Okay,
18:32
Unknown: here we go. I heard of
a Russian mercenary force a they
18:34
have completely captured the
eastern Ukrainian city of Bach
18:37
moot. amperes Charles Maynes has
more WhatsApp.
18:42
video posted to social media.
The head of the Wagner mercenary
18:45
group of Guinea precaution said
after more than seven months of
18:48
fighting in what he called the
meat grinder of Bach moot his
18:52
forces it sees the city in its
entirety. Yet even as precaution
18:55
spoken to the camera explosions
could be heard in the distance.
18:58
precaution also read up
complaints the Russian defense
19:01
ministries top brass had
intentionally started Wagner of
19:04
arms during the siege, costing
1000s of additional lives. Even
19:08
as he said responsibility for
holding the city would now pass
19:11
to the Russian army while his
forces took rest. Meanwhile,
19:14
Ukraine denied precautions
claims with officials and key
19:17
have seen heavy fighting and
bucketload continued.
19:20
John C Dvorak: Okay, now a
couple of things. Didn't we hear
19:25
that this guy whose name I can't
pronounce Rigoni rugosa.
19:30
Adam Curry: Ran Wagner.
19:32
John C Dvorak: Mr. Wagner, he
just recently said well, we're
19:38
gonna leave we're quitting.
We're going to leave this and
19:40
leave it to the Russian screw
up. Yeah. as though they were
19:43
going to just bail. Yeah. Well,
now he says, Well, we took over
19:46
the place that we're going to
leave it to the Russians. I
19:49
mean, these stories are just
annoying. They're these days
19:54
reporting is sucks. It's
dreadful, but also,
19:58
Adam Curry: what is so so so
Some media video shows this dude
20:02
this Putzmeister Putzmeister
promotion and he's got a run hot
20:07
dog man a hot dog man he's got a
flag he's got like eight guys
20:11
behind him who look I'm telling
you look like Dad's Army they
20:13
don't look like the killing
machine that the you know the
20:17
the fiercest killing horrible
fighters smashing people with
20:21
sledgehammers that we heard
about. And that's it. That's the
20:25
whole and then
20:25
John C Dvorak: yeah, there's
that forgot about that aspect of
20:28
it. This these bullcrap stories
about the sledge hammers? Yeah.
20:33
And they come on. Right.
20:35
Adam Curry: So here's Deutsche
Avella, which is always approved
20:37
by the CIA,
20:38
Unknown: and with yassky 1000s
of kilometers away at the g7.
20:41
Back in Ukraine, the head of
Russia's Vagner mercenary group
20:44
has claimed a breakthrough
through fields getting corrosion
20:49
claims in this video that his
forces have fully captured the
20:52
eastern city of Buck wound.
Ukraine's military has been
20:56
quick to deny the ruined city
has fallen. He says its troops
21:00
are still defending their
positions. But he is what should
21:03
we make of precautions claims?
21:05
It's hard to say no at the
moment what the situation is.
21:08
But we are really talking about
a few streets that were left
21:12
under Ukrainian control
yesterday. More until recently,
21:18
it's precisely these streets
where the Ukrainian military
21:21
says that fights are still going
on that they would put up
21:26
resistance, but the situation
was critical. So it's very hard
21:31
to say, what's what's the exact
situation on the ground.
21:36
unlikely that by the end of the
day or this weekend, Wagner will
21:42
have full control over the city
if they don't have it yet. It's
21:46
also possible of course, that
the Ukrainians can hold on
21:49
further this could be
21:57
the Russians in check in order
to retreat, or it could be an
22:00
attempt to keep them there. It's
hard to say, but it's clear that
22:07
has really advanced until a
very, very small patch of the
22:11
city.
22:12
Adam Curry: Alright, so for
weeks this was this was this was
22:14
the pinnacle, the whole war
hinged on Bach Moog Bach mood
22:18
Bach mood, now it's street
couple streets maybe doesn't
22:25
mean anything,
22:26
Unknown: dude. And what's the
significance? If it does take
22:29
all of back them up? Does it
change the strategic situation,
22:32
it changes
22:33
maybe the situation on the
ground with the Russian troops
22:38
because it wouldn't be their
first success in many months.
22:42
And that's, of course, something
that's also significant in a
22:45
war. But it is not the strategic
place that it has been sometimes
22:50
made. In the discussion. It is a
place that sits at a crossroads
22:56
where Russia would need to take
it if it wants to advance
22:59
further. But it's also not that
the roads are open for them to
23:02
advance as they please if if
they just control this town,
23:08
it's more of a symbolic victory
because remember, this fight
23:13
around the city has been going
on for many many months, and
23:16
it's been the most heavy the
hotspot of the war for many,
23:20
many months. So it would
certainly be a symbolic victory
23:24
John C Dvorak: case. This guy
was just getting trained by CNN
23:28
remember this good stuff? Yes.
Yeah. Left. Oh, my God is
23:33
looking left looking right. What
you're wearing a helmet.
23:36
Adam Curry: No, he wasn't. He
wasn't about he was he was just
23:39
in his office. He was in in his
office in in chief. me this.
23:44
This is but this is my point.
This is wag the dog. It's just a
23:47
bunch of this was the most
important fight, but I screwed
23:49
that we got f 16 is coming guy.
It'll be in a couple of years.
23:53
But you know. And then Reuters
reports. A couple years.
23:57
Reuters. Reuters reports that in
the forthcoming July NATO Summit
24:02
in Vilnius leaders are set to
approve 1000s of pages of secret
24:08
military plans that will detail
for the first time since the
24:11
Cold War, Cold War, how the
alliance will respond to a
24:14
Russian attack. These people are
insane. They love war. They just
24:21
love it.
24:23
John C Dvorak: They're raising
money.
24:25
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, of
course. But you know, it's like
24:27
this is stupid. Now, I have a
couple of clips of also from
24:33
NPR, of this, of the Arab
summit, the Arab League Summit,
24:37
because who shows up all of a
sudden, Angelina Jolie and bad
24:42
Brad Pitt's buddy? Assad
pleaders? Yeah
24:45
Unknown: crossback. He's back
worlds are meeting in Saudi
24:48
Arabia and someone who hasn't
been in the room for over a
24:51
decade is making a reappearance.
24:54
Syria's President Bashar Al
Assad is officially ending years
24:58
of isolation by the region's
powers. Over his brutal civil
25:01
war that's killed an estimated
half a million people.
25:04
Washington has condemned the
kingdom's normalization of ties
25:07
with Assad and the invitation is
seen as another sign of the
25:11
strained relationship between
the US and Saudi Arabia's at
25:14
a of a trial he is in Jeddah.
That's where this year's Arab
25:17
League Summit is taking place.
Good morning. Good morning.
25:21
Morning, Leila.
25:22
Adam Curry: So the NPR stop has
got to stop. Good morning. Good
25:26
morning. Good morning, America.
It
25:27
Unknown: is taking place. Good
morning. Good morning. The
25:31
return of Bashar Al Assad who
was something of a pariah over
25:35
his crackdown on the opposition
to his rule, the torture in
25:37
prisons, the hundreds of 1000s
who have been killed in the
25:40
Civil War. Now he's just being
welcomed back.
25:43
Adam Curry: This is such bull
crap. We this was all a hoax.
25:48
All the bombing of the chemical
weapons of his own people, the
25:51
White Helmets. The whole thing
was a hoax. I mean, this is as
25:57
if it as if all of that was
never happened that was never
26:00
deconstructed. NPR just goes Oh,
yeah, memory was killing his own
26:04
people. His dad did that for
sure. But this what is he? Isn't
26:09
he an eye doctor? I think he's
an eye doctor. absolute
26:15
knowledge. Yeah.
ophthalmologist? Yeah, this
26:17
horrible guy with a list?
26:19
Unknown: Well, yeah, I mean,
that is pretty much what's
26:21
happened. Look, there are
countries important ones like
26:24
Egypt and the United Arab
Emirates that had already been
26:26
building back their ties into
Syria for years now. But the big
26:30
shift really happened after
February's earthquakes that
26:33
struck Turkey and parts of
Syria. It gave Saudi Arabia and
26:36
other countries around the fence
in this region, what they needed
26:39
to reengage with Syria, at least
for humanitarian purposes at
26:42
first, but not everyone in the
region agrees with this embrace
26:45
of acid, Qatar and Kuwait are
both opposed. And the image of
26:49
Assad being welcomed here on the
red carpet yesterday when he
26:52
arrived in Jeddah is jarring to
many Syrians as well. We've got
26:57
to
26:57
John C Dvorak: figure out you
know, I've got to figure this
26:59
out. This can this works out
with zolecki going to Saudi
27:06
Arabia and slamming the Russians
because the real problem was
27:10
Syria and us and our people is
the Russia the Russians for
27:14
Russian stronghold. They use it
as a docking port. They have
27:17
every you know, bases there for
all practical purposes. And it's
27:23
it's their kind of outpost why
we use other places, plenty. So
27:29
they have their outpost in
Syria, and we make a big fuss
27:32
about it and try to get rouse
them or others more. It's just
27:35
sorry. Yes. And so you have this
phony baloney, Zelinsky going
27:41
into Saudi Arabia for no good
reason except to slam the
27:44
Russians. Because which is part
of a effort to keep Syria from
27:49
RE you know, joining with the
Arab League, which didn't work
27:54
because no one's gonna believe
this guy. He's a midget.
27:59
Adam Curry: There's more from
NPR things that Lansky comes up
28:01
to
28:01
Unknown: is to remind people how
the war started in Syria, it was
28:05
protest against essence rule
that were violently repressed
28:08
that turned into a civil war.
Saudi Arabia, the host country
28:12
today back the rebels trying to
topple Assad. And today, this
28:15
return means what that is it has
officially won.
28:20
Well, I mean, his country is an
economic crisis right now. And
28:22
US sanctions are really impeding
efforts to normalize with him.
28:25
But yeah, I mean, the effort to
topple him failed when Russia
28:28
and Iran rushed to his side. And
now Syria, civil wars at a
28:31
stalemate, millions of Syrian
refugees are waiting to return
28:34
and that is going to require
rebuilding Syria and Arab states
28:37
do want a piece of that. And
they're hoping Syria can
28:39
reorient itself back to the Arab
fold and away from Iran, which
28:43
still has a very big footprint
there.
28:45
Adam Curry: Iran comes into the
play and as we know, the only
28:48
two weeks away from having the
nuclear bomb. So as you
28:51
mentioned,
28:52
John C Dvorak: but yeah, that
was two weeks ago.
28:54
Adam Curry: It was about two
weeks ago. Maybe it's two weeks
28:57
more.
28:57
Unknown: So as you mentioned,
Saudi is the region's
29:00
powerbroker, lots of influence
economically, politically,
29:03
religiously. What's Saudi Arabia
hoping to get out of the summit?
29:08
The Kingdom wants to flex its
diplomatic muscles. Crown Prince
29:12
Mohammed bin Salman was long
seen as a brash, impulsive, even
29:15
unpredictable leader but he's
reversing course on a lot of
29:17
that and trying to rebrand Saudi
Arabia as a mediator, including
29:20
even in the war between Russia
and Ukraine. And I'm hearing
29:23
from diplomatic sources that
Ukrainian president Volodymyr
29:25
Zelensky has been invited to
attend the Arab League summit in
29:28
Jeddah. So this is Prince
Mohammed really flexing that
29:31
ability resisting us pressure to
pick aside go against Russia
29:35
while also inviting acid a
patron of Russia to a summit
29:38
where Zielinski could be in
attendance. So it's really a
29:40
crown prince showcasing his
power as a broker on the world
29:43
stage and piarsaigh of a trolley
Ingenta Thank you.
29:47
John C Dvorak: Jetta. It's had
analysis stinks horrible.
29:51
Adam Curry: But that's NPR for
it's it's bricks, obviously.
29:54
It's the bricks it's everyone's
putting together little groups,
29:58
and we look like the day We
can't even count right? Oh, it's
30:01
3 billion. Oh can give a little
extra money. So stupid. I have
30:06
only see I have Kirby. I
30:09
John C Dvorak: can't even count.
30:10
Unknown: We can't even count
right oversee a president by
30:13
Yes. Hey,
30:14
Adam Curry: hey,
30:14
John C Dvorak: hey you want you
know what they should do I have
30:16
an idea. Oh, what do you want to
straighten things out? Don't
30:19
worry about it out at the
Pentagon. Yeah. How did you
30:23
know?
30:23
Adam Curry: Yeah, I don't know.
It's just one of those things
30:25
we've been talking about for 15
years.
30:27
Unknown: Overseas, President
Biden is at the g7 summit in
30:30
Japan. World leaders today
agreed to a new round of
30:34
sanctions against Russia. Oh
CBSs Elizabeth Palmer reports.
30:38
Your cranes Volodymyr Zelensky,
will join the meetings when he
30:41
arrives this weekend.
30:43
John C Dvorak: Wow, hold on a
second. What the hell's he got
30:47
to do with the price of bread
when it comes to making this
30:49
sort of decision, which is an
American decision? Was he gonna
30:55
throw his two cents in? He's the
Yeah, he's the token but is he
30:59
and his consultant now to our
government.
31:02
Adam Curry: I love seeing Rishi
what's a Macron? And then queen,
31:12
Ursula. I mean, so they have
their two countries as well. Of
31:17
course the UK isn't but the
France is in the EU. So but the
31:21
net I mean, don't other
countries. Oh, and the German
31:23
guy to the German chancellor was
there. But there's a whole bunch
31:26
of other countries they don't
get to go. I guess it's because
31:29
they're not g7. But then Ursula,
does your EU count as a g7 or
31:34
she also just a consultant
because she's she's not the
31:38
leader of any Well, she's the,
you know, the President of the
31:41
European Council. And by the
way, she didn't get the memo.
31:45
She's wearing a pink like a pink
jacket and everyone else is
31:49
black and dark and dark blue,
31:51
John C Dvorak: but she should
wearing blue and yellow.
31:54
Unknown: Ukrainian president
will be the summit special
31:57
guests due to arrive here this
weekend. Zelinsky spent the day
32:01
at the Arab summit in Saudi
Arabia looking for support from
32:05
some leaders with close ties to
Moscow. He welcomed the
32:09
announcement from President
Biden that the US would back to
32:13
plan to train Ukrainian pilots
on us made F sixteens. This he
32:18
wrote will greatly enhance our
army in the sky.
32:22
Adam Curry: It's called an Air
Force douchebag army in the sky.
32:25
This he wrote will greatly
32:27
Unknown: enhance our army in the
sky. The Ukrainian leader has
32:31
been asking for months that the
US provide F 16 to help turn the
32:36
tide of war. A US official said
Mr. Biden is now committed to
32:41
helping Ukraine get the Jets,
although they may actually be
32:44
supplied by European allies.
32:47
No, he doesn't need a 60s Now,
originally,
32:51
to supply the planes as they
have the capacity to hit targets
32:55
deep inside Russia, fighter
planes pose a certain risk of
32:59
escalation. How big is it? We
have been mindful of the risk of
33:03
escalation since the very
beginning. In fact, we've taken
33:05
some criticism for that, because
we want to make sure that that
33:09
as we support Ukraine, we aren't
making it worse for the
33:12
Ukrainian people by having this
war escalate to be exactly what
33:16
Putin wants it to be in claims
it to be a war about the West
33:19
versus Russia or NATO versus
Russia.
33:24
Adam Curry: I love I love how he
just projects us all out there.
33:28
Putin claims that no, that would
be anti war people like us and
33:32
you know, other people who just
don't want war. We see what's
33:35
going on. No, no
33:37
John C Dvorak: that was going
on. That was exactly what Putin
33:39
said
33:41
Unknown: now is going to take 16
33:43
John C Dvorak: is coming from
Holland to train
33:45
Unknown: those Ukrainian pilots
at sites in Europe. And we still
33:48
don't know which countries
exactly are going to
33:51
John C Dvorak: stop. So now this
report is discrepant, because I
33:55
was under the impression from
the reports I've been listening
33:58
to that they're going to train
the Ukrainian pilots in the
34:01
United States. She just said
they're going to train him in
34:04
Europe. Oh,
34:06
Adam Curry: well, that's not
that could Poland maybe Poland,
34:09
Germany. I'm Stein.
34:11
John C Dvorak: I have no idea
where now Ramstein
34:13
Unknown: Ramstein. Take time to
train those Ukrainian pilots at
34:17
sites in Europe and we still
don't know which sites in Europe
34:20
countries exactly are going to
supply the aircraft. So it's
34:24
safe to say JB that we won't see
them in combat for months to
34:28
come.
34:29
Adam Curry: JB JB doesn't this
so if the Netherlands
34:35
John C Dvorak: that was that was
CBS yeah CBS okay is probably it
34:39
they're gonna trim in Europe. 10
34:40
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, let's
just let's say the Dutch and
34:43
they're 40 F sixteens. to
Ukraine. Doesn't that mean the
34:48
Dutch will logically be buying
new stuff. Oh, oh wow. Hey, new
34:58
stuff. We can buy new gear.
Here, listen, people in the
35:01
Netherlands, we have to do this
for Ukraine. Whatever it takes,
35:06
don't worry, we'll tax you and
buy some more
35:08
John C Dvorak: the F 16 is at
the end of its lifecycle, I
35:10
think and I and I, and the
money, the models I I'm going to
35:14
look it up. But the models have
changed substantially since the
35:18
first released these so the old
pieces of crap F 16. That's what
35:23
they're given them. The ones
that run on coal is the ones
35:25
that don't owe the ones that run
coal. That's where the dust is
35:29
gonna be the ones that was it,
you know that you have to hand
35:33
crank the engine to get
35:34
Adam Curry: as far as Okay,
let's see what NBC had to say.
35:38
Unknown: NBC News learning is at
Lenski is poised to get a major
35:41
victory. The US and allies are
now planning to provide F 16
35:45
fighter jet
35:46
Adam Curry: though. That's this
is an interesting word usage, as
35:49
the Lensky is about to get a
major victory on the
35:52
battlefield, Buck moot.
Anything? No, he's going to get
35:56
f 16.
35:57
John C Dvorak: That's the
victory. When I'm going to
36:00
here's his pop quiz, pop quiz,
pop quiz. When was the first
36:03
flight of the first F 16?
36:05
Adam Curry: I'm going to guess
1984 1974.
36:12
John C Dvorak: Oh, Lane is 50
years old.
36:16
Adam Curry: Well, that's just
the model. I mean, doesn't mean
36:18
that the actual planes are that
old. They still they still crank
36:21
them out. Don't they? Don't they
still make them they don't make
36:23
them anymore. Willis
36:25
John C Dvorak: has a number of
built has been 40 604 built as
36:28
of June 2018. I'm not gonna look
I'll look into it. I don't think
36:33
so.
36:34
Unknown: Let's continue. Our NBC
reports and I NBC News learning
36:37
is the Lenski is poised to get a
major victory. The US and allies
36:41
are now planning to provide F 16
fighter jets to Ukraine.
36:44
According to a senior
administration official. It's
36:47
unclear which countries will
provide the Jets. Still it's a
36:51
move. The Biden administration
previously opposed same
36:54
Adam Curry: reporters CBS by the
exact same words, except they
36:58
did slip in the US will be
providing them which is not
37:01
true.
37:01
Unknown: And Kristen, we have a
bit of breaking news citing key
37:04
late word of more explosions,
more air defense measures being
37:08
deployed. And even though
President Solinsky had said
37:10
those F 16 fighter jets would be
a game changer. It's not going
37:14
to happen overnight. Correct.
37:16
Tom? That's right. It could take
months to deliver them. The
37:19
White House had been concerned
the move would provoke Russia.
37:22
There was also the worry about
the cost. How long it would take
37:25
Adam Curry: how was that
breaking news? By the way? What
37:27
was the breaking news we have
reports of of some Scud
37:30
missiles? Oh, no wrong script.
We have some reports of some
37:34
breaking news
37:34
Unknown: time. That's right. It
could take weeks even months to
37:37
deliver them. The White House
had been concerned the move
37:39
would provoke Russia. There was
also the worry about the cost,
37:43
how long it would take to train
the pilots when Zelinsky comes.
37:46
He's expected to praise the move
and likely asked us for even
37:49
more aid.
37:51
Adam Curry: Oh, wow, this guy
really has a chokehold on us.
37:55
He's going to praise us good
boys.
37:57
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. This
guy's desire to control more
38:00
information. F 16. Background
are
38:02
Adam Curry: okay. And by the
way, I'm sure we will have our
38:05
boots on the ground set up
straight by Thursday show.
38:10
John C Dvorak: Because that is
that is actually bullshit, which
38:13
is what we're thinking. Yeah. So
the first jet these first
38:18
planes, which went into service
and 78 were made by General
38:23
Dynamics from 74 to 83, Lockheed
picked them up in 93, and
38:28
started making them for a couple
of years. Then Lockheed Martin,
38:30
which was the Combine firm
started making them from 95 to
38:34
the present. So they're still
being manufactured.
38:37
Adam Curry: Wasn't that Not I,
for some reason, and so did
38:40
General Dynamics,
38:41
John C Dvorak: the old, whatever
old plains there are, the ones
38:44
are going to the Ukraine.
38:47
Adam Curry: There was Prince
Bernard of the Netherlands. And
38:53
this was I think, in the 70s
probably was involved in
38:56
something known as the Lockheed
scandal. When the prince of the
39:01
Netherlands received a 1
million, which was a lot of
39:04
money back there, back then a $1
million bribe. What was it for,
39:08
again, reasonable bribe at the
time? Yeah. I was in 1970s,
39:14
negotiating the sale of
aircraft. It was the Netherlands
39:18
was Germany, Italy, Japan, which
nearly led to Lockheed downfall.
39:24
Anyway, for some reason that
just came to mind. Let's listen
39:27
to the movie The day the final
report from ABC.
39:32
Unknown: Today a senior
administration official tells
39:34
ABC News that President Biden
has informed that g7 allies
39:37
Adam Curry: What's this? This
Yankee Doodle pipe in the
39:40
background? Listen to it. It's
like some kind of patriotic Fife
39:47
and Drum thing happening. No
idea.
39:49
Unknown: Yes senior
Administration official tells
39:51
ABC News that President Biden
has informed the g7 allies here
39:55
that the United States has
agreed to allow Ukrainian pilots
39:58
to begin training to fly
American made F 16 fighter jets.
40:02
This move represents a major
reversal for Biden and a wish
40:06
fulfilled for Ukrainian
president.
40:09
First of all, I'm sorry.
40:11
John C Dvorak: That's bullcrap.
A major reversal is just get
40:14
game growing into it. We know
this was going to happen.
40:17
Adam Curry: Well, I think they
have some clips of Biden saying
40:20
and never
40:22
Unknown: represents a major
reversal and a wish fulfilled
40:26
for Ukrainian president who has
pleaded for F six teams for
40:30
months.
40:31
We have artillery. Yes. Thank
you. We have it. Is it enough?
40:38
Honestly, not really.
40:40
John C Dvorak: No, never
40:41
Adam Curry: listen to the guy.
You stepped on it.
40:44
John C Dvorak: This guy
40:46
Adam Curry: playing crowd laughs
It's a laugh line when he says
40:50
this. This this group, this must
be a bunch of arms dealers.
40:56
Unknown: Yes. Thank you. We have
it. Is it enough? Honestly, not
41:02
really.
41:04
Adam Curry: The what is that? Is
this a laughing matter
41:10
John C Dvorak: is pushed to you
should have boosted it.
41:11
Adam Curry: I'm just noticing
this message is this. These
41:15
people are horrible. So we're
supposed to be supposed to
41:18
believe this is some existential
war, existential war for Europe
41:23
and the West and the West in
general. And he says, Well, you
41:27
know, thank Thank you. Thanks
for that. Thanks for the tanks
41:31
and whatever else, you old
stuff.
41:33
John C Dvorak: billions of
billions, billions and billions
41:36
of dollars a gear. It wasn't
41:37
Adam Curry: enough wasn't
enough. Not really. Ma Yeah. You
41:41
know why they're laughing thing?
Yeah. Because billions more it's
41:43
going to flow.
41:44
Unknown: We have artillery? Yes.
Yes. Thank you. We haven't, he's
41:51
written off. Honestly, not
really.
41:55
The F 16. The backbone of the US
Air Fleet can travel twice the
41:59
speed of sound drop bombs on
ground targets and fire air to
42:03
air missiles. Ukraine believes
these planes provide a distinct
42:06
advantage in the skies, enabling
them to shoot down incoming
42:09
cruise missiles and fighter jets
fending off rushes punishing
42:12
aerosol.
42:13
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, I
thought our patriots were doing
42:16
all that. The Patriot instinct.
Yeah, that's already so
42:20
successful.
42:21
John C Dvorak: But up till now.
Wait, how is the f6 is nice. Now
42:25
we can get some some boots on
the ground for when I say the
42:27
next thing. That was the F 16 a
50 year old plane, the backbone
42:33
of our Air Force. That the F 22
I want even though there's not
42:38
that many of them are the F 18.
I mean, there's a lot we have a
42:41
lot of gear.
42:42
Adam Curry: I'm just gonna say
when you say that a 50 year old
42:44
plane. The planes are not built
my
42:47
John C Dvorak: understanding if
they're built to last but not
42:50
but numbers are still flying B
50 twos. Let's go. Yeah, I get
42:53
that. What
42:53
Adam Curry: I'm saying is they
still build them in 2018. Yeah.
42:56
John C Dvorak: And they're
building newer versions. Yeah.
42:59
Yeah. But they're not going to
get the new version. I can
43:02
assure you they're gonna get the
50 year old ones.
43:04
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's like like
you and your Lexus.
43:10
John C Dvorak: Car exhibit. It's
not 50 years old, but
43:14
Adam Curry: it's getting there.
How old is your Lexus? 30 years
43:16
old. It's gotta be 30 years old.
I
43:18
John C Dvorak: have two Lexus's.
One of them is about 30 years
43:20
old. The other one is 2005. You
can do the math. But up till
43:25
Unknown: now providing F 16 has
been a red line for President
43:28
Biden reluctant to provoke an
unpredictable escalation from
43:32
Adam Curry: Russia. Oh, but
let's do it. Now. Still,
43:35
Unknown: in a February interview
with David Biden did leave the
43:38
door open just a crack.
43:39
We know President Solinsky
continues to say what he really
43:42
needs are f6 teams. Will you
send up six teams?
43:47
We're sending him What love our
season military thinks you need
43:53
to know our seasoned
43:55
Adam Curry: military or seasoned
military. What? I don't
43:59
understand this terms. This is
this is all just what it's a big
44:03
joke to these people. They're
all laughing their ass off
44:06
because they're gonna make
hundreds of billions of dollars
44:09
are f6 teams. Will you send up
60s
44:13
Unknown: sending him what our
seasoned military thinks you
44:18
need to know. You don't think he
needs F 16. Now he doesn't need
44:21
f 60s now.
44:22
Is that a never?
44:25
First of all, the idea that we
know exactly what's going to be
44:31
needed a year two three manava.
There is no basis upon which
44:35
John C Dvorak: a year or two or
three.
44:39
Unknown: We know exactly what's
going to be needed a year to
44:41
three now but there is no basis
upon which there is a rationale
44:46
according our military now to
provide F 60s But you're not
44:50
ruling it out. I am wrong enough
for now. For now,
44:53
but no longer the administration
now says they hope Ukrainian
44:57
pilots can begin training in the
coming weeks. As for who will
45:00
actually provide the Jets
tonight, that remains an open
45:03
question. And administration
officials saying our coalition
45:07
of countries participating in
this effort will decide when to
45:10
actually provide the Jets, how
many we will provide, and who
45:13
will provide them. Maybe they
45:15
Adam Curry: were just waiting to
train African jet fighter
45:17
pilots. That's where everything
else seems to end up. Maybe this
45:21
is not about Ukraine at all.
Maybe they want to send these
45:23
things down to Africa.
45:26
John C Dvorak: Well, when he
says to you a year or two or
45:28
three that we mistaken, well,
they're gonna realize this place
45:33
like nothing we've seen in
Europe. Ah, this is a
45:37
rehabilitation program.
45:40
Adam Curry: That's what sounds
like. I don't think we're being
45:46
told the full story. You don't
know. Me? Well, there's
45:51
John C Dvorak: another pop quiz.
Okay, pop quiz. Pop quiz was the
45:54
nickname for the F 16
45:57
Adam Curry: The jalopy? No, did
I get it wrong?
46:03
John C Dvorak: What fighting
Falken Oh, yeah, I
46:05
Adam Curry: guess I didn't know
that the fightings Well, anyway,
46:11
we got the F 35. And maybe maybe
we're just waiting for
46:14
John C Dvorak: what happened
after it. Why don't we give them
46:16
the F 35. Isn't that supposed to
be the plane to we're supposed
46:20
to sell overseas all these
suckers? Yeah, but no
46:23
Adam Curry: one's gonna pay for
it. This is the whole point The
46:25
Dutch are going to going to they
were going to get rid of them
46:28
anyway. They were clearly going
to sell them. So now the Dutch
46:33
give him to or sell them? I
don't know. They won't be
46:36
selling. There'll be it'll be
because they're gonna go to
46:37
Ukraine and the Dutch have to
buy some new stuff. And those
46:40
will be 30 fives I would presume
or 20 twos? Maybe? I don't know.
46:43
John C Dvorak: No, we don't sell
it. 22 We don't sell that one.
46:46
Adam Curry: I don't think so.
Well, it's for sale somewhere.
46:50
Yeah. To us. All right.
Meanwhile, according to Politico
47:02
and their political they are on
the inside of the beltway. Joe
47:08
Biden is reportedly considering
freezing the conflict in Ukraine
47:12
for the foreseeable future
instead of pushing for the
47:14
country's victory this this
really falls right squarely into
47:20
your theory that the Biden
administration wants to have a
47:25
way to be you know never change
a winning team in a war and keep
47:29
getting boots on the ground and
keep everything going so that he
47:33
doesn't get voted out for Big
Mike
47:38
John C Dvorak: Yeah as Easter
he's going to need knows the
47:40
playbook the political election
playbook
47:47
Adam Curry: you know it to me it
feels like the just keep this is
47:52
all to keep Biden kind of in
play for the next year because
47:56
we still have a year to go
before we even really get into
48:00
any kind of election. Noise
action action Yeah, the noises
48:06
now but in any election action.
So this this this could be the
48:10
only reason why he's not being
run out of town. Yeah, this
48:16
whole thing is I'm telling you
with and we never hear about
48:19
Russian troop movements only
about vogner group the magical
48:22
Wagner Wagner Wagner group.
48:25
John C Dvorak: We never hear
about Russian troop No,
48:27
Adam Curry: no, you don't hear
about that. Not only Wagner in
48:31
the
48:31
John C Dvorak: war is it just
some remote control thing? It's
48:34
brand Wagner cruise missile over
every so often. It's a brand
48:38
brand Massive Attack going on
here.
48:41
Adam Curry: I love how people
push back like vogner group is
48:43
real No, no something happened
some things happened around the
48:47
world in Africa that was real
but the just a sticker that just
48:51
put a sticker on it. Wagner
Wagner was here doesn't
48:56
John C Dvorak: have a load
drawing like Kilroy. World War
48:58
Two.
49:00
Adam Curry: Yes. It just
49:03
John C Dvorak: they should have
an assigned tagger. Let's be
49:06
modern. Yes. spray can and tag
everything. Wagner Wagner was
49:11
Adam Curry: here a new one.
Because it all I'm for all we
49:14
know, it's our It's us. It's the
CIA or whatever we use.
49:20
John C Dvorak: Actually, it
could be thought of that one.
49:24
Adam Curry: Related to this is
the strengthening ties between
49:28
Russia and by the way. I think
what we're saying is this is all
49:32
theater. And all of this is
meant to spin people up and get
49:35
you all all jacked and equality
from Democrats. Yes. And you
49:41
know, and and even the g7 being
held in Hiroshima is all just
49:45
all nuclear war. We're on the
brink of nuclear war. They said
49:48
it over and over and over again
in the back of your mind. Yeah,
49:51
it's all all set up to spin you
up. And to get you to want to
49:56
keep Joe in and oh, goodness was
not anywhere else was certainly
49:59
not true. Ron Paul, it would be
horrible. He's lying. He's
50:02
horrible change
50:03
John C Dvorak: horses in
midstream.
50:05
Unknown: Tonight squeezed by
Western sanctions. Russia is
50:08
relying on its neighbor
literally next door. We are on
50:12
the Chinese border and that's
Russia. Shag just across the
50:16
half frozen river. Here. The two
countries are so close. Russia
50:20
is just a few 100 yards away. 20
50:25
Adam Curry: right there. Oh my
god.
50:27
John C Dvorak: We're Sarah Palin
when we need her.
50:30
Unknown: I love like, Oh my God.
It's just right over
50:34
here. The two countries are so
close. Russia is just a few 100
50:37
yards away. Along the 2600 mile
border signs of deep China
50:43
Russia ties are everywhere. on
streets and buildings. It stores
50:47
stocked with Russian goods.
Where vendors greet foreigners
50:52
in Russian there's even a
Russian style bar.
50:56
Adam Curry: Has anyone who's
watched this report ever been on
50:59
a trip anywhere? Do they know
anything about the world? I
51:02
guess not
51:02
John C Dvorak: right? Oh, wow.
You're right. It's the stupidest
51:06
report. I can go to a grocery
store in San Francisco and get
51:10
greeted in Russian or Chinese
for that matter. It's both
51:13
Chinese for sure.
51:15
Unknown: Where vendors greet
foreigners in Russian there's
51:18
even a Russians know are
51:20
Adam Curry: a Russian style but
what is a Russian style by a an
51:25
AR style ar 15 style weapon what
is a Russian style bar?
51:30
John C Dvorak: Is this is a good
question. What should it be like
51:31
to like the linen bar in at the
Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas?
51:39
Adam Curry: With hot chicks with
with furry hat and lots of vodka
51:44
and they say comrade a lot. Oh,
51:47
Unknown: we're owner Tong Lu
says Chinese people can mingle
51:50
with Russians
51:51
Adam Curry: mingle. It's almost
like that that bar in mingle?
51:55
Yeah. Is it Star Trek the bar we
can mingle with. With our Wars
52:01
Star Wars. The three eyed
people.
52:02
Unknown: China's President Xi
Jinping declared a No Limits
52:05
partnership with Russia. From
that diplomatic boosts for
52:10
President Putin with a recent
state visit to a critical
52:15
economic trade between China and
Russia surging by 30% in the
52:21
last year.
52:23
Adam Curry: This is I love the
Breathless horse report NBC and
52:27
there's a part two
52:28
John C Dvorak: is Janet. My God
had they been out of town is
52:32
Janice
52:32
Adam Curry: Mackay Freya who is
reporting for us rather let's
52:35
take a look at Janice Mackay
Freya for a second see. Janice
52:39
what is her deal? Mackay
freight? She got the she got the
52:42
gig though. She got to go. So
that's kind of cool. Traveling.
52:46
It's a great traveling gig
hanging out in Russian bars. She
52:50
is better. She's Scandinavian.
Check it out. Oh, correspondent
52:54
for NBC News based in Beijing.
Give her a name again after look
52:58
it up. Janice Mackay Freya
previously worked at CTV as Asia
53:03
bureau chief. She was the
network's Middle East Bureau
53:07
Chief in Jerusalem. She's got
some good gigs.
53:10
John C Dvorak: She studied she
was a CTV that's CTV Canada.
53:15
Yeah,
53:16
Adam Curry: Canada. Her she she
studied international relations
53:22
and French at the University of
Toronto. I'm not sure if she
53:26
spooky she might see slippery
sea but
53:29
John C Dvorak: she's spooky
little switches if she's been in
53:32
Beijing and then in case you've
been all over so it's that kind
53:36
of assigned. Oh, she
53:37
Adam Curry: Oh, you need to look
at her at her picture. She's got
53:41
that. That that does I'm just
talking as a as a producer
53:46
producer. She has kind of that
war worried face. You know what
53:52
I mean? Like, how can I explain
it?
53:55
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna look at
it a bit. It looks spooky.
53:59
Adam Curry: very stern. very
stern and wrinkled. Yeah, it's
54:04
like
54:04
John C Dvorak: stern and
wrinkled. There you go. That's
54:06
the description she's gonna love
here. Let's go to
54:09
Unknown: part two. And this is
where a huge pipeline delivers
54:12
Russian gas to China. Energy
that used to flow to Europe, all
54:17
of it keeping Russia's economy
afloat. funding the war in
54:21
Ukraine. Haha damn training with
goods will come and go from
54:25
Russia across this bridge that
was built and paid for by China.
54:30
Russian truck drivers told us
they're crossing to China every
54:34
day. Give them as you were good
friends he says of China. Steel
54:39
relations during wartime are a
sensitive topic here. We were
54:43
tracked by Chinese authorities.
US officials including the US
54:48
ambassador here tell NBC News
there is no evidence so far. The
54:53
support for Russia includes
weapons.
54:57
Adam Curry: John C. Dvorak
School of Journalism ladies Live
55:00
It is no evidence Russia
55:01
Unknown: needing allies like
never before want to hear that
55:04
one again. But are here tell NBC
News there is no evidence so far
55:09
that shows for Russia includes
weapons an
55:12
Adam Curry: extra twist on the
no evidence. No evidence so far.
55:16
This is a good Yeah,
55:17
John C Dvorak: that's actually
advanced, advanced,
55:19
Unknown: Russia needing allies
like never before. And finding
55:24
one close at hand. Janice Mackay
for NBC News. Hey, hook, China,
55:30
hey, hey, ha.
55:34
Adam Curry: Jackie, you need to
go to Hey, ha, ha, ha, ha. This
55:39
is all just so pathetic. Do they
not understand that no agenda
55:44
show sees right through them
that we understand what they're
55:47
doing here. They're just trying
to make everybody crazy. Man,
55:53
for most people. You know, I see
that. Of course. I'd like to
55:57
remind everybody, as more and
more normal people join the no
56:01
agenda show they join no agenda
nation. And some people are new.
56:05
And it is important to
understand that John, I pretty
56:09
much never speak during the
week. I mean, the extent of it
56:12
might be Hey, look at this great
story about AI and then you'll
56:15
like say something horrible and
I'll regret sending is a story.
56:18
That's
56:18
John C Dvorak: and I loaded that
product.
56:20
Adam Curry: Oh, you did? You'd
love I sent John a a, an article
56:26
about using chat chat GPT type
AI on your computer and you
56:31
loaded the product.
56:33
John C Dvorak: So I loaded the
product. And then I tried to run
56:35
it and it says hey, no, you got
to load I have to load some sort
56:38
of some back repo. I have to
load the bases the data.
56:43
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. You have
to download the six gigabytes of
56:46
data of course.
56:47
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Okay, so I
so I tried doing that it says
56:50
incompatible hardware. And I
said what, wait a minute, but it
56:54
has a bunch of choices. There's
like various models, I had to
56:58
load load the models. That's
what it is. Had to load them as
57:01
I showed them. We tried the
other model incompatible
57:04
hardware, using a machine
running Windows 11. If you can't
57:08
run something on Windows 11,
which is picky about the
57:12
hardware compatibility is
bullcrap product, okay.
57:18
Adam Curry: All right. Thank you
for this report. So far so far,
57:23
AI is failing on the no agenda
show the running in at home. All
57:27
right. Can't stop laughing.
That's great. Hold on a second.
57:34
What Meanwhile, over in the UK,
57:36
Unknown: BT British Telecom are
going to be cutting 55,000 jobs,
57:40
but crucially 10,000 of them are
supposedly be going to AI. You
57:45
can see the front of the Daily
Mail that they asked the
57:48
question Is this the start of
the great AI jobs bloodbath, The
57:54
Guardian here as well btw to
replace stuff with AI, and also
57:59
the Financial Times they call
it. They call it the most
58:03
radical cuts since privatization
since British Telecom was
58:06
privatized. So Bter to slash up
to 42% of the workforce by the
58:11
end of the decade by 2030. It
comes just a couple of days
58:14
after Vodafone revealed that
they will be cutting 11,000 jobs
58:18
themselves. The decision, of
course comes to cut costs, but
58:21
also chief executive Philip
Johnson says that AI tools such
58:24
as chat to GPT, they're ready.
They've shown enough progress to
58:27
show that they can replace
humans, especially in customer
58:30
service over the next six or
seven years. It comes on the
58:34
same day. If we look at the
times, the same day that Rishi
58:38
Sunak spoke and said that rules
need to be in place to curb AI
58:42
and that Yeah, look, I might be
a great thing. But we need to be
58:45
wary of its progress despite it
being transformative technology.
58:51
If we look at AI news here, they
expand on that UK wants new
58:55
rules, new rules are needed to
tame AI new rules that global
58:59
regulations needed the pm made
the comments during a flight to
59:02
Japan where the g7 is, of course
taking place in Hiroshima. So
59:06
let's
59:06
Adam Curry: analyze this just
for a second. And by the way,
59:09
it's too bad. I knew the former
British Telecom CEO Gavin
59:14
Patterson, because when when we
had pod show, we had Pato
59:18
London. And he was he was kind
of he was up in the in
59:23
management of BT, but he
eventually when the Dutch guy
59:26
left who was a real dick, when
that guy left then Patterson
59:29
became CEO, I still have his
number. I'm going to ask him
59:33
what if he knows what's going
on? But he left in 2018 or 2019.
59:37
But what I hear is that okay, so
55,000 jobs that just sounds
59:43
like me. No, we just got to cut
back because we're bloated and
59:46
you know, there's no more free
money hobbyists, that's what
59:49
everyone's doing in technology,
but of those 10,000 is customer
59:53
service. This I Believe, I
completely believe that chat GPT
59:58
can do function just as poorly
as humans in b2b customer
1:00:03
service. I think that's perfect.
And I'm sure that's what they're
1:00:07
doing. I'm sure that customer
service representatives
1:00:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's gonna
suck as usual. Don't have to pay
1:00:14
anybody.
1:00:15
Adam Curry: It won't suck any
any more. It'll just Yeah, it'll
1:00:17
suck cheaper paths suck
1:00:19
John C Dvorak: cheap. Yeah, no
suck cheaper. There's a show
1:00:21
title suck cheaper.
1:00:23
Adam Curry: We're loaded with
show titles today. Yeah. And
1:00:26
that makes total sense. By the
way. Five seventy.ai 570 dot AI,
1:00:35
A J. Donnelly, one of our
producers, he's loaded up and no
1:00:38
agenda show stuff in there. You
can literally ask things like,
1:00:42
what are all the give me the red
bullets. It's all
1:00:44
570 157 zero.ai. And you can you
can go in there. And you can
1:00:50
say, give me all the Red Book
predictions or what episode? I
1:00:55
mean, it has a lot. Okay,
1:00:56
John C Dvorak: I'm going to try
it. Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned
1:00:59
something about the bad the bad
Dutch CEO. Yeah. So we got a
1:01:03
note from someone. I'm not going
to bless the guy. But he says
1:01:08
that somewhere along the line,
and I didn't think I didn't
1:01:13
think it was serious. But then I
thought about it. I said, you
1:01:15
know, I think this might be
true. Okay, you, you knuckled by
1:01:20
Munder
1:01:21
Adam Curry: a knuckle under to
pressure
1:01:25
John C Dvorak: from a couple of
Dutch producers who said we're
1:01:28
offended by Adams. Dutch voice.
No. Bullshit. I said, Yeah.
1:01:36
Dutch voice is a work of art.
This is anybody be offended by
1:01:39
this.
1:01:40
Adam Curry: This is completely
bullshit. I don't believe this.
1:01:43
Who said this? Give me Give me
his name. I've already said I
1:01:46
wouldn't. I will call it but you
have to do anything. You must.
1:01:51
You must you must repent. No, I
don't think so. Why, what why
1:01:56
the old I did. Here's what I
did. There was a Dutch producer
1:02:01
Hendrick. And he said, when you
do a German voice whenever
1:02:07
German comes up, and you do a
Nazi Schultes voice. Yeah, he
1:02:11
says that is actually
traumatizing to many Germans.
1:02:14
They've been trying to get away
from that for decades. And so
1:02:18
mommy says, Oh, good. Just
follow us.
1:02:21
John C Dvorak: That's like a
suit. Yes. I have to assume so.
1:02:25
Adam Curry: Yeah. So I stopped
doing that. But that's why
1:02:29
because that's your
1:02:30
John C Dvorak: number of
listeners. Let's go on the
1:02:32
statistical aspect of this. The
number of German listeners we
1:02:37
have that would be offended by
that. I want to hear from them.
1:02:41
John, you have like five.org
Yeah, Josh says me John
1:02:46
tavares.org. We have about five
serious producers that have been
1:02:51
sir ignited producers that are
from Germany that have helped us
1:02:55
over the years, including our
friend and moon rose. I want to
1:02:59
hear that they're offended by
you doing that crazy German
1:03:02
voice.
1:03:02
Adam Curry: I didn't say I
didn't say offended. I said it's
1:03:05
triggering. Oh, traumatizing,
okay. dramatizing triggering,
1:03:09
triggering, triggering. Okay,
well
1:03:11
John C Dvorak: nine traumatizing
999 traumatizing to me and
1:03:17
triggering is pretty much the
same thing. It's just a new
1:03:20
version of the old word.
1:03:22
Adam Curry: Well, well you know
what if they say it's absolutely
1:03:26
not true? Well, then we go down
we're gonna go straight back
1:03:30
doing it obviously. Obviously
Wait, here's my favorite one
1:03:44
remember some good times people
anyway, don't know it all days
1:03:53
of the show. I did not buckle
but you know what? We don't
1:03:55
receive it. There's no here's
what the here's the problem. The
1:03:59
Dutch aren't donating there's no
notes to read. That's the
1:04:05
problem. They come in, you know,
under under Associate Executive
1:04:09
producer level until the only
sometimes.
1:04:12
John C Dvorak: Well they're
having nothing but fun with
1:04:16
these parties that they're
throwing. I know on behalf of no
1:04:19
agenda. They are having a really
stoned over there. Like Yeah,
1:04:24
Dad day, you know, even if the
show folds, does. Party we got
1:04:29
parties. We got our own mailing
list which by the way I advise I
1:04:34
know that union local lump
number one in Michigan has a
1:04:38
pretty large mailing list of
people that's a hot list so
1:04:42
heartless and so they can just
mail to each other and and let's
1:04:45
get this Friday where we're
going to do it. Yeah.
1:04:48
Adam Curry: Awesome. Let's do
some climate change. Please. I
1:04:52
need some climate change in my
life because this I have a
1:04:55
story's horrible. The stories
are only just regional
1:04:58
headlines. Netherlands while in
the Netherlands, it has leaked
1:05:04
out that the Netherlands is
going to have new requirements
1:05:08
only two cows per field. So you
have a whole field which let me
1:05:14
see this size of this field zero
point 35 hectares. What is that
1:05:23
in acres?
1:05:25
John C Dvorak: It's a budget
double it up, it's about seven
1:05:28
about three quarters of an acre.
It's not very big,
1:05:31
Adam Curry: but only two cows.
1:05:35
John C Dvorak: That's going to
kowski clear that area.
1:05:38
Adam Curry: It by the way, it's
not it's 0.8 acres. So it's
1:05:44
great to be able to have more
than two cows on the acre.
1:05:48
John C Dvorak: I don't know how
many cows could read let's here
1:05:51
we go knowledge know, how many
how many acres? Is it needed to
1:05:56
sustain one? How many cows let's
go let's go how many cows can be
1:06:04
since this grade. They don't do
this on network TV at all. Oh,
1:06:10
many cows. How
1:06:12
Adam Curry: many cows per acre
is acceptable? How about that?
1:06:16
Okay, that okay. Well, this is
interesting. According to chat,
1:06:22
GPT, one to two cows per acre is
acceptable.
1:06:27
John C Dvorak: I got right here.
The general rule of thumb is one
1:06:30
to one one cow per acre.
1:06:32
Adam Curry: So so this is
another spin up bull crap thing
1:06:35
they're doing to us. We're
thinking because we're not
1:06:37
farmers. We're thinking this is
an outrage. But it's really not.
1:06:42
You're
1:06:42
John C Dvorak: cramping and this
cramped. It's too many.
1:06:46
Adam Curry: The official no
agenda position now is that
1:06:49
there's too many cows per field.
1:06:52
John C Dvorak: A cow calf pair
will typically require closer to
1:06:55
two acres and well, the cow and
a calf.
1:06:58
Adam Curry: I'm telling you,
we're being spun up. I should
1:07:02
probably mention the story about
the homeless veterans being
1:07:07
displaced by migrants in New
York was an elaborate hoax. I'll
1:07:12
bet it was but we believed it we
bought it very well.
1:07:15
John C Dvorak: That's because
it's believable. That's the
1:07:16
problem with a good hoax.
1:07:18
Adam Curry: And yeah, it was now
who did this? It's unclear who
1:07:22
did this hoax. But to learn
about the
1:07:25
John C Dvorak: cows about the
homeless
1:07:27
Adam Curry: No, the cows the
cows is not hooking to the cows
1:07:30
is a reverse hoax. Is that
gender jamman Too many cows it's
1:07:33
still a hoax. bullcrap. We're
outraged by the wrong thing.
1:07:36
That's what's so funny. Is that
we should just fold man we
1:07:43
should fold we're getting duped
everywhere left and right
1:07:46
John C Dvorak: well that stinks
because the duping is getting
1:07:48
better and is getting better
thank you internet
1:07:53
Adam Curry: all right let's
let's go to claim you
1:07:55
John C Dvorak: duping to
occasionally Miss whether you
1:07:57
want to talk about climate
change. I
1:07:58
Adam Curry: got a horrible five
parter. Nice. I'm ready. I'm
1:08:03
ready. And
1:08:03
John C Dvorak: this is going to
discuss turns the table on
1:08:05
everything this brings in a new
idea. Oh. And it's based on
1:08:11
nothing but bull crap.
1:08:13
Adam Curry: Nice. Okay, and mind
you this comes on the heels of
1:08:18
the U N? Was it the world the
world world opera world media
1:08:26
rollout. One more time I'll stop
the World Meteorological opera
1:08:30
operation. The climate justice
1:08:34
John C Dvorak: and reparation
part one now
1:08:36
Unknown: to northern California
and the threat one community of
1:08:38
color faces because of rising
sea levels. KQED climate
1:08:42
reporter as David Romero takes
us to West Oakland in the San
1:08:46
Francisco Bay area. Those rising
sea levels make residents
1:08:49
they're vulnerable to flooding
and to toxins that have long
1:08:53
polluted surrounding areas and
residency protecting them from
1:08:57
that threat, or what's known as
climate justice is a form of
1:09:00
reparations.
1:09:03
Adam Curry: All of us
Stopstopstop so first of all,
1:09:06
what is now the makeup of oak it
was when I hear Oakland here in
1:09:10
Texas, I think that's poor
blacks.
1:09:15
John C Dvorak: Couple of things.
They're talking about West
1:09:18
Oakland. I'm very familiar with
West Oakland. I've worked in
1:09:23
West Oakland. There's a big BART
station in West Oakland, which
1:09:28
they don't they will never say
as Bart they're talking about as
1:09:31
some sort of transit thing
trying to screw the poor black
1:09:34
community. The West Oakland is
mostly black. I don't know what
1:09:39
they mostly poor black. I think
that's East Oakland. But it's
1:09:43
mostly black living in old
Victorians, which are quite
1:09:46
lovely. By the way. Alumni even
though they're rundown and this
1:09:50
place is ripe for gentrification
in other word. That's
1:09:53
Adam Curry: my question. Is any
part of Oakland gentrified?
1:09:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Old Town.
1:09:59
Unknown: Okay.
1:10:00
John C Dvorak: But Oakland is
resisted pretty well, because
1:10:03
it's really not much you can do.
But this report this I can walk
1:10:10
from this house to what they're
talking about. Almost. So you
1:10:14
might take me all day, but I
1:10:16
Adam Curry: could get there. You
could be good. Are you in line
1:10:18
for some reparations?
1:10:19
John C Dvorak: It's about, I'd
say 10 miles from here. Oh, no,
1:10:23
Adam Curry: that's outside of
the reparations zone.
1:10:25
John C Dvorak: So this, this
story starts off talking about
1:10:33
rising sea levels is bullcrap.
You said it again.
1:10:38
Adam Curry: You said you were
going to fold it. One more time
1:10:41
again. Oh, man,
1:10:42
John C Dvorak: but I can't help
it because this report is from
1:10:45
top to bottom, a lie. And the
rising sea levels in what?
1:10:50
There's water rising sea levels
in West Oakland. This is the
1:10:54
craziest story I've ever heard,
while Oakland is it is more or
1:10:58
less inland. There's no real
docks there or anything. I mean,
1:11:02
there's part of you could almost
say that the where the where the
1:11:07
cargo containers come in. You
could call that West Oakland,
1:11:10
but it's not. It's the inner
channel. But no, this is bull,
1:11:15
and they're just okay. I get
worked up just listening to this
1:11:21
nonsense. Play on which is the
point of
1:11:24
Unknown: it. 1000s of people
live in West Oakland, a bridge
1:11:26
away from San Francisco, boxed
in by freeways a port in
1:11:30
numerous industries. Margaret
Gordon shows me around the
1:11:34
northern edge of the
neighborhood. So where were you
1:11:36
gonna go? Okay, we
1:11:38
will go over the overpass,
1:11:39
we pass charcoal gray and white
condominiums about a half mile
1:11:43
from San Francisco Bay. As he's
continued to rise, Gordon, who
1:11:48
founded the West Oakland
environmental indicators project
1:11:51
foresees a looming disaster,
1:11:54
we'll be the first victims of a
sea level rise.
1:11:57
And not only from surface
flooding between these homes and
1:12:01
the bay, our hazardous sites
like old army base contaminated
1:12:05
with petroleum and other
chemicals. That contamination
1:12:08
can move around as water on the
ground rises,
1:12:13
those toxic soils will be a
hindrance to the community.
1:12:17
They're going to be surprises
and they're going to be real
1:12:19
health risks.
1:12:20
Adam Curry: Well, you say this,
but what about the storms of
1:12:23
1962?
1:12:26
John C Dvorak: Oh 9062 There may
have been a flood Yeah, there
1:12:28
was now on flood the abandoned
arm Oakland Army bases there.
1:12:34
Yes. It's an army bases. Not
it's not like I will say there
1:12:39
are. And by the way, I was very
aware of all the toxic crap that
1:12:44
was getting into the air because
I was working for the air
1:12:46
pollution district for nearly a
decade. Yes. And that areas, one
1:12:50
of the areas that I worked in,
there's nothing that what
1:12:54
they're talking about is
bullcrap. There's nothing going
1:12:56
on out of that army base. If it
was if you talked about the
1:12:59
Naval Air Station over in
Alameda having toxic spills.
1:13:03
Yes. tons. The Navy's always
made a mess wherever they've
1:13:08
been. And they just leave stuff
and then they they waltz out of
1:13:11
their Hunter's Point. Same
thing. Problem. Yes. East Oka
1:13:17
West Oakland, no. West Oakland
no and this idea that it was the
1:13:22
blacks have been forced to move
there. That's nonsense to there
1:13:26
was always a mixed ethnic area.
For from the get go. And you can
1:13:30
look at good people should read
the wiki page for West Oakland,
1:13:34
California and just read the
pages got a good history there.
1:13:37
There's none of this. There's no
sea level threat. Anyway onward.
1:13:42
Unknown: Christina Hill directs
the Institute for Urban and
1:13:45
Regional Development at UC
Berkeley, rising inland on top
1:13:50
of the land and underneath it,
1:13:52
the sea water actually comes
under the land almost like it's
1:13:56
sticking its toe under the
freshwater
1:13:58
that sea water washed up where
it can mix with contamination.
1:14:04
Oh, no pollution loosens. It can
release poisonous gases in and
1:14:09
around sewer and water pipes.
1:14:11
The gas can enter buildings,
workplaces, schools and homes.
1:14:15
Oh, I think we need to rebuild
two cracks in the concrete slab
1:14:18
foundation gentrify across
1:14:20
West Oakland, there are more
than 130 active toxic sites.
1:14:24
West Oakland grew up as an
industrial powerhouse. So
1:14:28
Adam Curry: I'm going to call it
right now. I'm going to call it
1:14:30
right now what's going on here?
And I think you'll get a lot
1:14:33
more of the stories about that
area. This is to run everybody
1:14:39
out of town, tear it all down
and completely build a house.
1:14:43
cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap. The
Reparatur land
1:14:47
John C Dvorak: this is the AC
approach to life. This
1:14:49
Adam Curry: is JC actually
Serrana Miss of Dogpatch he sent
1:14:53
me a great documentary about
Chicago and Southside. It's
1:15:00
called the area. And this is
exactly what it is. Except it's
1:15:04
different in mo faxes onto this.
Yeah, in some cases they say,
1:15:09
oh, it's migrants are coming in,
in other cases that just let all
1:15:12
the drugs go rampant. And then
when the areas completely bombed
1:15:15
out, exactly, or we doing a
Black Lives Matter demonstration
1:15:21
burned down Minneapolis. And
then so now it's climate change.
1:15:25
That's what's called mom. Oh,
poisonous gas is gonna kill
1:15:28
everybody. We're gonna give you
some reparations for leaving,
1:15:32
leaving. That's what's going on
here.
1:15:34
Unknown: West Oakland grew up as
an industrial powerhouse some
1:15:38
150 years ago when the
Transcontinental Railroad ended
1:15:42
its long journey here. Over
time, shipbuilding, metal
1:15:46
foundries, auto yards, and dry
cleaners filled this corner of
1:15:50
Oakland dry clean, racist home
running policies like red.
1:15:54
Adam Curry: S very odd. Is that
a racial thing? It's like
1:15:57
Chinese what I'm saying Why Why
throw into dry cleaners? I don't
1:16:02
understand early
1:16:02
John C Dvorak: dry cleaners
until I don't know, the 50s or
1:16:05
60s that used to use a lot of
carbon floor chemicals instead
1:16:11
of a dump in the backyard, I
guess I don't know, overtime
1:16:15
evaporated by now. But that's
beside the point,
1:16:17
Unknown: shipbuilding, metal
foundries, auto yards and dry
1:16:21
cleaners filled this corner of
Oakland. It's a clue John, it's
1:16:24
a clue. Racist home lending
policies like redlining
1:16:28
relegated black people to this
neighborhood.
1:16:31
Adam Curry: Ah, they got
screwed. Oh, I get it. We're
1:16:34
going to give you some
reparations so you can leave
1:16:38
that toxic infested area from
the knife to stay there? Yep.
1:16:43
It's coming through the cracks
in the foundation. That's right.
1:16:48
This is great. What a fabulous
report. Can I go to the next
1:16:51
clip? I'm loving this. I'm
loving it.
1:16:53
Unknown: It is a lesson in
discrimination and disregard and
1:16:58
diminishment of a population
that is helping build the city.
1:17:02
Dorothy Lazar grew up in West
Oakland she retired two years
1:17:06
ago as the managing librarian of
the Oakland History Center.
1:17:10
Lazard said the policy of
eminent domain decimated black
1:17:14
neighborhoods and business
districts, allowing governments
1:17:17
to seize land and destroy now
when
1:17:20
Adam Curry: they say decimated,
do you think just 10% what the
1:17:22
word really means?
1:17:24
John C Dvorak: They mean nine.
We're the only ones that do
1:17:26
that. Because
1:17:26
Unknown: ARD said the policy of
eminent domain decimated black
1:17:30
neighborhoods and abysmal crap.
Allowing governments to seize
1:17:34
land and destroy homes to build
freeways and a commuter train
1:17:38
line.
1:17:39
Blaming the imminent warning is
to me kind of commensurate to
1:17:44
colonialism, you know, like
working this as our dumping
1:17:49
ground. Because we've already
devalue this space.
1:17:53
Lazard says racist policies
1:17:56
John C Dvorak: was residents.
They put a BART station, which
1:18:01
is the convenient Bay Area Rapid
Transit. The BART station in the
1:18:06
middle of West Oakland is called
the West Oakland BART station.
1:18:10
And it which is the most
convenient way for anyone in
1:18:12
that area to get to San
Francisco or, or downtown
1:18:16
Oakland or beyond. It's kind of
a favor to the community, and
1:18:21
now they're complaining.
1:18:24
Adam Curry: This is a great
report.
1:18:27
Unknown: You know, it's kind of
like we can use this as our
1:18:30
dumping ground because we've
already devalue this space.
1:18:35
Lazard says racist policies
exposed residents to life
1:18:39
threatening environmental
pollution without their consent.
1:18:43
Those impulses are still there.
What's this?
1:18:47
Adam Curry: Oh, those him wow.
Oh, I gotta hear that again. So
1:18:51
I just hear this again, this was
fantastic value.
1:18:54
Unknown: This space, Lazard says
racist policies exposed
1:18:58
residents to life threatening
environmental pollution without
1:19:02
their consent.
1:19:03
Adam Curry: Okay, so there was a
bunch of racists who didn't ask
1:19:08
for their consent. I mean, what
kind of report there's racist
1:19:12
and they were racist in the head
of black people and they didn't
1:19:15
ask for their consent to be
racist.
1:19:17
Unknown: Lazard says racist
policies exposed residents to
1:19:20
life threatening environmental
pollution without their consent
1:19:25
those impulses are still there
1:19:28
Adam Curry: those inputs
1:19:31
John C Dvorak: they put them
into an era that was
1:19:34
contaminated which is not
without telling them
1:19:38
Adam Curry: but those impulses
are still there means the racist
1:19:41
was there the racial the black,
man that's That's right. That's
1:19:45
all you that's all you do, you
racist Californians. Wow. I
1:19:50
can't believe you're doing that.
Do they pin the pin the tail on
1:19:53
this donkey who did this?
1:19:56
John C Dvorak: Well, no, they
don't go that way. They go the
1:19:59
other way. We Just as they are
when the last clip Yeah, they go
1:20:03
the other way and this was this
is the eye roller clip of the
1:20:07
group
1:20:07
Unknown: Margaret Gordon sits on
a park bench in front of her
1:20:10
apartment as semi trucks crawl
the street and a commuter train
1:20:14
zips by. She tells me climate
justice must mean reparations.
1:20:20
The reparation movement is a
next level of civil rights.
1:20:23
For Gordon reparations mean more
than payment to the descendants
1:20:27
of slaves. They mean actions
that restore consent to the
1:20:31
community like cleaning up toxic
sites, economic opportunities
1:20:36
and power and planning decisions
about climate resilience.
1:20:39
We will have long standing
sustainability, I will know that
1:20:43
that's going to be housing for
my my children, grandchildren,
1:20:47
so it'll be a job for them.
1:20:49
Climate change and reparations
in terms of a response to the
1:20:54
history of racial injustice have
the same roots
1:20:57
eludes me. Taiwo is an associate
professor at Georgetown
1:21:00
University. He's the author of
the book reconsidering
1:21:04
reparations with a chapter on
climate reparations.
1:21:07
Even if you didn't buy the
historical story about why
1:21:11
reparations and climate crisis
there is a straightforward
1:21:15
practical story of if you want
to actually change who faces
1:21:19
what level of depth disease and
displacement, this is something
1:21:23
that you should pay attention
to.
1:21:24
He says climate justice and
reparations are the same
1:21:28
project.
1:21:29
Adam Curry: Oh, in you know, I'm
going to agree with this report
1:21:32
because I feel that the black
family Obama they need to be
1:21:36
compensated because they were
forced to buy a mansion right on
1:21:42
the shore of Nantucket there and
and they were forced to do that
1:21:45
it's totally racist. They need
reparations so that they can
1:21:49
move away from their
1:21:53
John C Dvorak: token you believe
they're trying to make this
1:21:55
association now with climate
change. Climate Justice, justice
1:22:00
and reparations all the same
comes from the same roots. Of
1:22:04
course, are they trying to do
here besides steel this property
1:22:07
like you mentioned earlier?
Yeah, that's it this is this is
1:22:10
now completely nuts.
1:22:13
Adam Curry: I gotta, I gotta
hand I should probably go back
1:22:16
and listen to some of these
organizations who are doing this
1:22:20
and look at them and see who
they are. Because clearly,
1:22:24
there's people who really
believe in this I mean, that
1:22:27
people people have been
influenced and and SIOP from all
1:22:31
directions. And so of course,
they truly believe that it's
1:22:34
racist. That people who are in
these organizations trying to
1:22:38
helmet changes racist climate
change by itself is racist,
1:22:42
because it was industrial. white
nationalists and colonialist who
1:22:46
did this
1:22:47
John C Dvorak: white
supremacists.
1:22:48
Adam Curry: Oh man, I got a
great clip from Elon on that and
1:22:52
I want to play this Alright,
here it is. This is still from
1:22:57
that never I couldn't find a
full interview with Elon the
1:23:01
full thing. It's all chopped up
in little bits. Thanks, CNBC.
1:23:05
John C Dvorak: No, I need that
so I can do my normal edit.
1:23:09
Adam Curry: So here he is. And
what's he's very slick what he's
1:23:13
doing here because he's, he's,
it's almost like he is the when
1:23:21
you blow your nose, it's like
it's like a clown honk
1:23:23
sometimes, like a comedian.
1:23:26
John C Dvorak: Like why is
always saying how can you make
1:23:28
all that noise? You're like
1:23:30
Adam Curry: a bird flu infested
Canadian goose is flying or just
1:23:34
infesting us all.
1:23:36
John C Dvorak: Canadian goes
bird flu. Yeah.
1:23:40
Adam Curry: So what he does
here, it's what do we have a
1:23:44
dangle off? He's a dangle up.
He's dangle opping. Because what
1:23:48
he's doing here is he's saying,
Look at me, I speak the truth.
1:23:51
I'm not afraid to speak the
truth. But at the same time, he
1:23:54
justifies the entire existence
of white nationalism. Listen to
1:24:00
this. But I mean, when you when
you when you
1:24:04
Unknown: link to somebody who's
talking about the guy who killed
1:24:07
children in a mall, and now in
Texas, you say something like it
1:24:12
might be a bad sign up. I'm not
quite sure what you meant, but
1:24:19
in that particular case, there
was a somehow that's not not
1:24:30
that the jury killed, but the it
was, I think, incorrectly
1:24:36
ascribed to be a white
supremacist
1:24:38
Adam Curry: action. I'm sorry,
it's even worse. It's white
1:24:40
supremacists negates white
supremacists, that is that he's
1:24:44
going to justify who killed but
1:24:46
Unknown: the it was, I think
incorrectly ascribed via white
1:24:49
supremacist action. And the
evidence for that was some
1:24:55
obscure Russian website that
nobody's ever heard of that had
1:24:58
no followers. And the company
that found this is belling cat
1:25:06
right, adored Bella cat does
psyops
1:25:09
right. I couldn't
1:25:11
Adam Curry: really even follow
exactly what it was you were
1:25:13
trying to express there are you
stupid CNBC guy? Are you truly
1:25:17
that stupid? So that's
1:25:18
Unknown: why I was curious, but
I'm saying I thought this the
1:25:21
ascribing it to white supremacy
was bullshit. Okay. And and that
1:25:26
the information for that came
from an obscure Russian website
1:25:30
and was somehow magically found
by Bellingcat, which is a
1:25:34
company that does Psyops
1:25:37
and there's no proof by the way
that he was not.
1:25:40
There's no, I wouldn't say that
there's no proof that he is. And
1:25:45
that's a debate you want to get
into on Twitter.
1:25:47
Yes. Because we should not be
ascribing things to white
1:25:50
supremacy, if they're if it's
false. Okay.
1:25:54
Adam Curry: So, at first, I kind
of thought, yeah, like, go Elon,
1:25:57
yeah, throwing Bellingcat under
the bus. Yeah, I totally agree
1:26:01
with that. But then I realized
what he's doing. He is he's,
1:26:04
he's, in essence, saying white
supremacy is real. White
1:26:09
supremacy is alive in America.
And you can put that that brown
1:26:14
man into white supremacy. It's
really it's a dangle up. It's
1:26:19
truly subversive. It's very
1:26:21
John C Dvorak: interesting, very
come up with that thesis.
1:26:24
Adam Curry: Very evil, very
evil, but what Elon Musk is
1:26:29
doing here. The white
1:26:30
John C Dvorak: supremacy, though
that he knows he's doing Oh,
1:26:33
yes, that's
1:26:33
Adam Curry: all he does. That's
that's his whole that's his
1:26:36
whole raison d'etre. I think I
think that's that is what this
1:26:42
guy does. In this case. That's
his whole Twitter thing.
1:26:45
John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
he is from South Africa. There,
1:26:50
you haven't been there but you
know, the Dutch that are there.
1:26:53
Yes. Yeah, they're a bunch of
white supremacist.
1:26:56
Adam Curry: The white
supremacist are Biden, Ursula,
1:27:00
queen, Ursula, Prince Charles,
these are the it has nothing to
1:27:05
do with skin color. Those of the
true whites Supreme, the
1:27:08
Supreme, that's what this is the
supreme who come from white
1:27:12
Europe. And there were there
were people in that's where we
1:27:16
get the Venetian White from is
brown people in Europe who are
1:27:20
still part of white supremacy
and they powdered themselves up
1:27:23
to be white, the supreme the
people who still kind of run the
1:27:27
world,
1:27:28
John C Dvorak: you know, talking
about the band
1:27:31
Adam Curry: knows average white
band you confused? I do have a
1:27:36
question for you. As as you
mentioned, you work for the for
1:27:40
the air pollution, brigade, the
government, the gut, the
1:27:44
government. And you are a
chemist by trade so I can ask
1:27:50
you a question about this rather
short report from Scandinavia,
1:27:53
the federal
1:27:54
Unknown: government is
investigating so called Forever
1:27:56
chemicals in Canada, a growing
body of evidence points to toxic
1:28:01
chemicals on our clothes making
their way into our bodies. The
1:28:05
question is how much harm they
potentially are doing. As the
1:28:08
CBC is David certain reports
Ottawa wants to regulate the
1:28:11
products linked to them.
1:28:14
Health Canada and Environment
Canada are reviewing the science
1:28:16
behind forever chemicals per and
poly floral alkyl substances or
1:28:21
P bass, a group of chemicals
that hang around in the
1:28:24
environment for a long time,
exposure has been linked to
1:28:27
liver damage and breast cancer.
Still, these chemicals are quite
1:28:32
common in clothing, compostable
takeout containers, and many
1:28:36
other consumer items. According
to the government's latest
1:28:39
Science Review, tests show pee
fast in the blood of many
1:28:42
Canadians and even more elevated
levels among people in northern
1:28:46
indigenous communities. The
government wants to consult more
1:28:49
Canadians but with this
scientific review it's putting
1:28:53
industry on notice saying
intends to regulate forever
1:28:56
chemicals.
1:28:58
Adam Curry: So they're calling
this forever chemicals which I
1:29:02
love as a term. Nice it's It's
pee fast which is poly floral
1:29:09
floral Cole
1:29:10
John C Dvorak: site away most
chemicals are forever chemicals
1:29:13
but
1:29:14
Adam Curry: yeah, well this.
This is why I come to you hat in
1:29:17
hand asking what is what is the
deal with these poly Flora like
1:29:21
CO flora. Floral Flora Cole? How
come? I can't pronounce this?
1:29:26
John C Dvorak: That's I don't
know if you're coming to me for
1:29:28
that. I don't know why you can't
pronounce it.
1:29:31
Adam Curry: What is it and why
is it in our clothes?
1:29:34
John C Dvorak: They're bad.
Well, do you remember that?
1:29:36
About eight years ago on this
show? We talked about the we
1:29:41
talked about you using old
detergents downy fabric
1:29:47
softeners. Yes. And then
everybody jumped all over so you
1:29:51
can't do that don't use these
things are going to kill you.
1:29:54
Adam Curry: They wound up using
some nuts in a bath. Yeah,
1:29:58
John C Dvorak: I know I owe you
Yeah, I use the ball. So
1:30:01
Adam Curry: now it's soap nuts
in the bag and tennis balls in
1:30:04
the dryer. Tennis balls, tennis
balls in the dryer. Yeah. And
1:30:09
does the job. Guess how long
that lasted?
1:30:12
John C Dvorak: Well, well, it
was wishes you met Tina.
1:30:15
Adam Curry: Well, no, she did.
She's all in on the tennis
1:30:17
balls. We still use the tennis
balls. But I think she slips in
1:30:21
a sheet or too little softener
sheet to make it smell fresh.
1:30:26
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
that's the stuff that we're
1:30:28
talking about. And it's used for
the for that same reason. It's
1:30:32
like it these things, these
weird chemicals. I don't even
1:30:35
know how they develop them. But
they use into fabrics that
1:30:39
modern fabrics seem to take a
liking to him and say, Yeah, you
1:30:42
know, you put that mix that with
me, and I'm gonna be soft, I'm
1:30:45
gonna feel a lot more expensive
than I really am anyone who's
1:30:50
owned a cashmere sweater, and
tried to find some that says
1:30:54
Nice. That may with some other
fabric. Sometimes you do. And
1:30:58
that's because it's been
treated. And so these guys are
1:31:01
like, Oh, well, you know, this
is not good for the body. It's
1:31:05
probably not good for your
liver. It's probably not I'm
1:31:08
probably in agreement with most
of these these assertions,
1:31:13
Adam Curry: correct. But
whenever I hear a cool marketing
1:31:17
phrase, like forever chemicals,
and they're also racist, because
1:31:21
Oh, no, it hurts indigenous
people more I don't by the way I
1:31:24
that I don't get well because
because there's something behind
1:31:27
us this coolness. Why?
1:31:30
John C Dvorak: Yes, there's
always something behind it. And
1:31:31
it is a cool phrase. You're
right forever. Chemicals. Great.
1:31:34
Adam Curry: It's an app. It's an
app.
1:31:36
Unknown: It bet probably.
1:31:39
John C Dvorak: Oh, agenda your
ops show.
1:31:44
Adam Curry: Oh, that's Hey,
everybody. Welcome to the ops
1:31:46
Show Up Show Up Show. Andrew
Sullivan, the OG gay blogger.
1:31:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah.
1:31:56
Adam Curry: We're famous wrote
quite the substack.
1:31:59
John C Dvorak: Did you Did he
now? Oh, he
1:32:01
Adam Curry: did. Ki dove right
into the the the queer
1:32:05
theorists.
1:32:07
John C Dvorak: And he's Is he is
he? I guess he knows. He says.
1:32:10
Adam Curry: Of course. He's
against it. He finally what
1:32:13
we've been saying is that gay
and lesbians are under severe
1:32:17
attack. They're being erased
because they're cysts that yes,
1:32:20
they are being erased. He wrote,
I must have received from 15
1:32:25
different people.
1:32:26
John C Dvorak: I didn't get it
once.
1:32:27
Adam Curry: Well, you know,
1:32:29
John C Dvorak: let's write your
date. This is your beat. This is
1:32:31
Adam Curry: just my that's my
beat everybody
1:32:33
John C Dvorak: the trans man.
1:32:38
Adam Curry: I'm gonna go on
Glenn Beck and say hey, Glenn,
1:32:40
just so you know, I'm now the
trans man. I'm going Tuesday. By
1:32:45
the way it should be fun.
Although just as an aside, Tina
1:32:49
was watching my previous
appearance on back and she
1:32:52
noticed something that I forgot
to bring up but bothers me a
1:32:57
lot. The setting for him is a
table a round table in a giant
1:33:02
studio. It really is a big
studio. It's all empty. They got
1:33:05
you know, some lights at the
very edges. effect it looks
1:33:09
great. Looks great. And he's got
the hang and microphones and
1:33:12
everything almost like I should
be you know, like, Oh, what the
1:33:17
I
1:33:17
John C Dvorak: don't like to
hang the microphones he had that
1:33:19
when he had Rodriguez or
whatever that guy's name was
1:33:21
like Mike was he like slowly
twisting? It was like, oh,
1:33:23
Senator diamond. Like
1:33:25
Adam Curry: I actually in my
first and my first appearance. I
1:33:27
actually hit it by accident with
my hand. It was weird. It was it
1:33:31
was swinging back and forth. He
has so the end there's two
1:33:34
chairs. The guest chair is lower
than his
1:33:39
John C Dvorak: debt. This is an
old TV trick.
1:33:41
Adam Curry: I know. But I hate
it. And I want to say I can I
1:33:44
have a phonebook. Glenn, I'm
gonna ask him for that. It's not
1:33:47
cool. It isn't old. And I think
he probably does that on
1:33:51
purpose. It seems like he would
like TV guy. Yeah, really? Yeah.
1:33:55
This is the Johnny Carson.
Johnny Carson started that I
1:33:58
think
1:33:58
John C Dvorak: I think Johnny
Carson started Yeah. Yeah.
1:34:02
Adam Curry: It's annoying. And
I'm six five and I'm gonna sit
1:34:04
there like a little boy
1:34:06
John C Dvorak: like a little
boy. Yeah. At the table. You can
1:34:08
ask him a piece.
1:34:11
Adam Curry: So Andrew Sullivan,
he the unload is a great piece
1:34:15
it's in the show notes. And he
what he says is to be homosexual
1:34:20
is in contrast is meant to be
attracted to same sex gays and
1:34:24
lesbians run the gamut of tastes
politics, backgrounds,
1:34:26
religions, some are conservative
some radical some indifferent
1:34:29
some gays are queers, but most
aren't and the queers now run
1:34:33
what was once the gay rights
movement for a longer piercing
1:34:36
reflect on the takeover read,
somebody has some reference
1:34:38
here. But he says unlike the
gays and lesbians who definitely
1:34:43
fought a fight in the United
States, and and came out okay.
1:34:49
We don't We it's it's more legal
in America to have same sex
1:34:54
marriage than it is in most
countries in Europe. It's more
1:34:57
accepted even the more accepted
in the net Dylan's got spit on
1:35:01
by the Moroccans if you same sex
holding hands in the street. But
1:35:05
then he says the queers up the
ante and did something we gaze
1:35:08
never did. They targeted
children. If they could get into
1:35:13
kids minds, bodies and souls
from the very beginning of their
1:35:16
lives, they could abolish the
sex binary from the ground up.
1:35:21
And so they got a pliant woke
educational establishment to
1:35:24
reprogram children from the very
start telling toddlers that any
1:35:29
single one of them could be
living in the wrong body.
1:35:31
Therefore, before they could
even spell kindergarteners were
1:35:36
told to pick a pronoun there by
a sex as soon as they arrived,
1:35:39
endless kitty books reiterated
the queer theory mantra about
1:35:42
gender, you can be a girl or a
boy or both, or neither or
1:35:45
something else entirely. And if
the sex the child chose did not
1:35:49
match their physical body, they
were told they could just change
1:35:52
it and change it back if they
needed to no questions asked
1:35:55
fun. If a boy said he was a girl
or vice versa. It wasn't fact
1:35:58
unethical to ask any further
questions from now on. He was a
1:36:02
girl parents a problem to
overcome. And that's just an
1:36:05
excerpt. There's a very, very
good piece very thoughtful. And
1:36:09
I'm glad that we now see a
leader of gay America. Unlike
1:36:15
Kara Swisher who should be with
Andrew Sullivan on this in
1:36:19
John C Dvorak: 105%
1:36:23
Adam Curry: You saved yourself
wow. I triggered 100% meme in
1:36:27
you just by saying Kara Swisher
1:36:30
John C Dvorak: in I said 105
Guys Kritis correct. And it's I
1:36:34
have to read this piece. I'm
sure it's right on the money.
1:36:37
He's always been a good run.
1:36:38
Adam Curry: And, and it it's
really, it's mind boggling, but
1:36:43
it's,
1:36:44
John C Dvorak: you know, it's up
to him and his his compadres to
1:36:48
do to address this problem.
There's nothing I mean, we
1:36:51
bitched and moaned just
generally speaking, but we can't
1:36:55
really bring it home like, like,
like people in the community
1:36:59
can. And it's, it's like, it's
like Muslim radicals. I mean,
1:37:03
it's the Muslims that have to
bring them to justice, not as
1:37:07
right and
1:37:08
Adam Curry: so and let's just
start by eradicating things as
1:37:11
the community. LGBTQ is not the
community. It's a brand. And
1:37:18
it's all about the Q and the B,
the B, even just by the mere
1:37:23
nature that B is in that lineup.
We'll get rid of the B stands
1:37:26
for bisexual by definition means
that this t and Q was is
1:37:32
ridiculous in the community. So
let's play a clip. Oh, I was
1:37:37
going to have a whole thing. Oh,
I'm glad you've got something
1:37:40
please.
1:37:42
John C Dvorak: So here's a trans
non binary teacher who is tick
1:37:47
tock Yeah. Tick tock. Here's a
trans non binary t shirt and I
1:37:56
can't tell if it's what this
teacher is it's a boy Amy's like
1:38:00
pat the old character on
1:38:03
Adam Curry: no yeah and so
1:38:08
John C Dvorak: he's he she ages
ever says they them he's obey
1:38:12
them or she's obey them I don't
know. But he they them is
1:38:17
concerned with how to address
and this is an issue that has
1:38:21
not been brought up on our show
or otherwise that I know of.
1:38:26
When you have a non binary
person how do you put their what
1:38:31
is their original salutation? Is
it Mr. Is it miss? Is it misery?
1:38:36
You can't use the very good
question or mister or miss it or
1:38:40
anything because you don't I
mean that this further confuses
1:38:44
the day them he she bullcrap I
said it again. Now. He's got it.
1:38:51
He she they them has got a
solution. Kind of because it
1:38:56
came up in his her there's
classes here it is.
1:39:00
Unknown: So I'm a trans non
binary high school teacher. And
1:39:03
since coming out a lot of people
have asked me if students don't
1:39:05
use Mr or miss with me. What do
they put in front of my name? So
1:39:08
the answer is nothing. I don't
put anything in front of my
1:39:10
name. And students just call me
Flint. But recently some of my
1:39:13
students stayed behind after
class to tell me that they do
1:39:15
not like this arrangement
anymore. And they presented me
1:39:17
with some alternate honorifics
for my approval. So let's go
1:39:19
through them starting strong
with Captain I like this because
1:39:21
it sounds like I'm leading a
crew on the Enterprise instead
1:39:23
of begging students to care
about literature. Next one is
1:39:26
good to sergeant or Sarge it's
masculine commanding, but I
1:39:29
don't think I can be counted to
reliably spell it next is Lord
1:39:32
which made me immediately
uncomfortable and been in
1:39:33
principle but I think in
practice I would be immediately
1:39:35
alarmed if I heard somebody
calling their teacher Lord
1:39:38
anything fourth is Coach which I
do here as a coach for roller
1:39:40
derby but the only thing I
actually coach at school is
1:39:42
Academic Decathlon which I don't
think qualifies me for this doc
1:39:45
I think makes me sound like I
should be helping Snow White
1:39:47
with her house chores. So I'm
gonna pass chef I think is
1:39:50
unquestionably my favorite. I
teach English and film my day
1:39:52
doesn't deal with food at all.
But the absurdity I think, is
1:39:54
its charm. Reminds me a lot of
those people that are upset that
1:39:57
I'm not closeted at school who
tell me to teach math and so I
1:40:00
answer this is a Wendy's. I'm
gonna skip right past this one.
1:40:03
A late entry today was, Your
Honor, I think it might put
1:40:05
students in a defensive position
immediately. Sometimes they
1:40:07
deserve it, let me know if
you've got a favorite.
1:40:11
Adam Curry: Okay, so this is
this is exactly what happens.
1:40:16
This kind of stuff is passed
around. And everyone, just like,
1:40:22
climate change does like all the
things, but let's just like the
1:40:26
Russia, Ukraine war, everybody
gets all spun up. And that is
1:40:29
the whole point. Again, the
American media model is
1:40:33
opposition, strife. The always
if you don't, I can barely even
1:40:39
watch it. Luckily, we have clip
collectors and custodians. If
1:40:44
you watch cable news, if you
watch Fox, they're playing clips
1:40:47
of the guys on the left, if you
watch, MSNBC, CNN, they're all
1:40:52
playing clips. That's all they
do all day, there's no one doing
1:40:55
any news is just a spin you up.
And it works. It works against
1:40:58
you. That's what most podcasts
are about. Which is why we're
1:41:03
never going to be really
successful. Because we're not
1:41:07
using the model of success.
We're using the model of
1:41:10
honesty, so that we can look at
ourselves in the mirror, and
1:41:14
hopefully calm people down. And
this is it's coming. A lot of
1:41:19
this is coming from big pharma
once again, because they're the
1:41:22
ones benefiting each child that
decides to transition is worth
1:41:26
$7 million over their lifetime.
At minimum point two. You have
1:41:32
it down to the decimal I'm
impressed 7.2 And think about
1:41:37
the restrictions that big pharma
put on COVID. You can't even
1:41:42
talk about ivermectin that's
horse paste. You can't you if
1:41:48
you go against big farmers
wishes then you lose your
1:41:52
license, your your, your your
your scrubbed off off the world,
1:41:56
your your business will close.
You get no insurance for your
1:42:00
business. This is Big Pharma is
doing this. And when I say big
1:42:03
farm, I'm also talking about the
American Psychology Association,
1:42:06
the American Association of
Pediatrics, DC, CDC, Rachel
1:42:11
Levine is a big, big part of it.
All the preschoolers who own
1:42:17
medical device companies, it's
all about money for them. It's
1:42:20
and they don't care. And and
it's all about power. And this
1:42:24
is the worst part is the
Democrats in general, are the
1:42:30
ones that see oh, wow, this is
perfect. We can grab these
1:42:34
people, these are the people
that will will be affectionate
1:42:38
towards them. And I would say
today's Democrat is a Maoist,
1:42:43
socialist, Marxist. So no, we
could we can grab these children
1:42:48
early on someone else is
grabbing them as Big Pharma.
1:42:51
Thank you very much. That's
great. Oh, media is just helping
1:42:53
out. Parents are afraid. Parents
were afraid to speak up about
1:42:57
masking in schools, parents were
afraid to say, hey, I really
1:43:00
don't want my kid to get this
shot. I really don't want my kid
1:43:04
to get the shot without me
knowing about it. So and this,
1:43:08
this trans mouse movement
happened during COVID. That's
1:43:12
when children were left alone to
their own devices, literally,
1:43:15
their devices, beaming this crap
into them. And so you need to
1:43:19
take charge of your inputs of
yourself and your children. This
1:43:23
queer ideology, which to me as I
look at it, this it's it's
1:43:28
nothing new. It's just we have
the it's plus the internet, we
1:43:33
in the 70s. And like, we had
punk and we'd be sticking safety
1:43:39
pins through our ear lobes and
through our nose and through our
1:43:42
cheek and we had ad leather
jackets with an A on the inner
1:43:45
circle anarchists. Yeah, yeah.
And we had the Sex Pistols and
1:43:49
God Save the Queen Jade, no
human being. Now it's just been
1:43:52
turbocharged. Ben is really just
people who want to be against
1:43:57
everything, and against the
establishment. And the
1:44:00
establishment is now in charge
and is running your children
1:44:04
into the ground. And here's to
people learning to be teachers.
1:44:09
How do you feel about
1:44:10
Unknown: LGBTQ pushing their
agenda on the youth? There's no
1:44:16
agenda. You're you are speaking
to the LGBT.
1:44:20
Rs. It was it was great. I feel
as though I feel as though every
1:44:24
child should be gay. Yeah, I
think every single time actually
1:44:27
gay and I'm starting to be a
teacher right now. And I'm going
1:44:30
to make every child in my class.
1:44:33
Adam Curry: These people are
completely captured. They
1:44:35
completely brainwashed, and you
need to avoid them. Get them out
1:44:41
of your school, get your child
out of the school, but you also
1:44:44
have to watch check yourself.
These are still people they
1:44:49
have, they're just they have
they have been mind controlled.
1:44:53
And they're they're literally
under spells. And this is the
1:44:57
only clip that I really need to
play because it shows how the
1:45:01
spell has taken charge of
otherwise probably normal
1:45:06
adults. And I was I'm glad I
could find this in context
1:45:11
because the spin you up make you
crazy version was the only thing
1:45:16
you saw about a minute on. On
social media. I got the full
1:45:20
three minutes. This is Democrat
Senator, Senator mckaela
1:45:24
Kavanaugh of Nebraska. Now,
let's take the context of what
1:45:29
was happening here. They were
discussing a bill which, by the
1:45:34
way in Nebraska, passed
narrowly, which if signed by the
1:45:40
governor will ban sex change
procedures for minors under 19.
1:45:46
As well as a blade,
1:45:48
John C Dvorak: I saw it that sex
change for minors under 18 was
1:45:52
already nobody did it.
1:45:56
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's just
not true. And with sex change,
1:46:00
we also mean chemically altering
your the state of your body so
1:46:04
testosterone, estrogen, it's not
none of it is reversible as they
1:46:08
claim. And again, parents are
just we know parents of these
1:46:12
trans children. And we know
these people, John, you and I,
1:46:16
we look at them, and we say
they've just been captured.
1:46:20
They're afraid to say no,
they're afraid to stand up.
1:46:25
They're
1:46:25
John C Dvorak: not afraid to say
No, they won't say no, they're
1:46:27
completely they're captured to
the extreme that they're
1:46:29
righteous. But there's
difference between the people
1:46:33
that are afraid to say no, then
the people who have been
1:46:37
captured and are righteous about
it.
1:46:40
Adam Curry: I still, I still
have sympathy for them, because
1:46:43
they're under some form of
spell, which is very similar.
1:46:47
And maybe just 30% of people are
lost. But it's very similar to
1:46:51
Vax versus unvaccinated. It
doesn't matter how many times
1:46:54
you show that you were lied to
about the vaccine. They never
1:47:00
accept it, they will never
accept it. And it's like, lies
1:47:05
many experiments that show that
people have herd mentality, and
1:47:09
they will just go along with it.
And but it comes from a place of
1:47:12
fear. So by the way, this, this
is not even such a crazy law, 12
1:47:17
weeks of pregnancy, I mean,
filling your own, your own
1:47:21
version of what you think is, is
acceptable. And 19 is older than
1:47:28
then most states, you know, it's
18 for this type of this type of
1:47:32
work, but it includes puberty
blockers. And so the senator
1:47:38
comes up, and there were people
protesting out in the, in the
1:47:45
hallway. And she starts off very
normally saying that she doesn't
1:47:50
agree with it. And this is the
piece that you didn't hear and
1:47:53
certainly didn't see. And then
she just goes into into a chant
1:47:58
that I think it has been, it's a
spell she's under a spell. And
1:48:03
she is not the only one. And I
have compassion and love for
1:48:07
her. But it is very troubling to
see Senator Mikayla
1:48:12
Unknown: cabina you recognize to
speak. Thank you, Mr. President.
1:48:17
Trans people belong here. We
need trans people, we love trans
1:48:23
people. That's what they're
saying out there.
1:48:28
Adam Curry: That's what they're
saying out there. That is the
1:48:30
chat.
1:48:31
Unknown: They're standing in a
circle in the attended saying
1:48:34
that over and over again. Trans
people belong here. We need
1:48:43
trans people, we love trans
people, trans people belong
1:48:48
here. We need trans people, we
love trans people, trans people
1:48:54
belong here. We need trans
people, we love trans people,
1:48:59
trans people belong here. We
need trans people, we love trans
1:49:04
people, trans people belong
here. We need trans people, we
1:49:09
love trans people, trans people
belong here. We need trans
1:49:13
people, we love trans people,
trans people belong here. We
1:49:17
need trans people, we love trans
people, trans people belong
1:49:21
here. We need trans people, we
1:49:24
love trans people, trans people
belong here.
1:49:26
We need trans people, we
1:49:28
love trans people, trans people
belong here. We need trans
1:49:32
people, we love trans people,
trans people belong here. We
1:49:36
need trans people, we love trans
people, trans people belong
1:49:39
here. We need trans people, we
love trans people, trans people
1:49:43
belong here. We need trans
people. We love trans people,
1:49:47
trans people belong here. We
need trans people. We love trans
1:49:51
people, trans people belong
here. We need trans people. We
1:49:55
love trans people, trans people
belong here. We need trans
1:49:59
people. We You love trans people
and trans people, we need trans
1:50:03
people, trans people, trans
people, trans people, trans
1:50:12
people, trans trans people,
trans people, trans people,
1:50:21
trans people, trans people,
trans people, trans, trans trans
1:50:30
people, trans people, trans
people, trans people, people
1:50:40
really love trans people trans
people, trans people, trans
1:50:50
people love trans people, you
matter, you matter. And I am for
1:51:01
you. And I will not stop. I will
not stop today. I will not stop
1:51:07
tomorrow. You are loved you
better you belong here. This
1:51:16
Adam Curry: is this is a very,
very disturbed individual.
1:51:22
John C Dvorak: I'm reminded of a
Hari Krishna.
1:51:24
Adam Curry: Yes, exactly.
They've heard this exactly it
1:51:28
chants and chants are very, very
powerful. And this I think is it
1:51:33
This may be done behind closed
doors, we got a very rare peek
1:51:38
at what at this is a this is a
person who's in government doing
1:51:43
this in front of her peers. This
is this is something that is way
1:51:48
beyond the pale. And, and, and
those it's fun kind of watching
1:51:54
the troll room like Stop, stop,
you know, I'm leaving, I'm
1:51:57
checking out, you have to face
this. You have to face what's
1:52:01
going on. These people need to
be embraced. And like excuse me,
1:52:04
you need to calm down. Let's
have a beer. Bottle light
1:52:08
perhaps some so this is this is
very, very, very sick. And
1:52:16
that's and this is the internet.
It's the food people are eating.
1:52:20
It's the media they're
consuming. It's the words it's
1:52:23
pronouns. This is where we have
to just stop. We have to stop.
1:52:30
We do. We do? Like Good Luck.
Well, you know people are people
1:52:36
are standing up to it. Here's a
TSA agent, producer. Good
1:52:42
afternoon. I was hesitant to
reach out as I know how much you
1:52:45
love the TSA. We love you that
has nothing to do with whether
1:52:50
you're TSA or not. But you know
now transgender passengers can
1:52:54
request if they want a male or
female TSA agent and this agent
1:53:02
is saying I'm not going to do
it. I am not going to pat down
1:53:06
as a man I'm not going to pat
down a woman even if they
1:53:09
requested I'm not going to do
it. And and and the only thing
1:53:16
we have Did you see Ford? Ford
now has the pride LGBT colored
1:53:22
rainbow F 150.
1:53:27
John C Dvorak: Sure that's not a
hoax.
1:53:29
Adam Curry: No, no, it's not. No
they specifically that No, it's
1:53:34
not a hoax. It's not a hoax. But
these companies are all a little
1:53:41
bit behind. You know that they
haven't quite figured out that
1:53:44
people are not going to take
this anymore. The mama bears are
1:53:47
out there stopping this stuff in
schools. And but to them I also
1:53:51
you got to calm down. You don't
have to go crazy. But when I
1:53:57
hear this, this chanting.
Clearly these and this is the
1:54:01
latest. This is the best. This
is your government Matt Lee.
1:54:06
Finally we have a Matt Lee clip
we've been missing. Matt Lee
1:54:09
from the State Department
finally saw him again. In the
1:54:13
end, there's a new state spokes
whole State Department spokes
1:54:17
Hall was pretty funny by
himself. And Matt Lee has gone
1:54:21
very, very gray. It's kind of
like Wow, man, we haven't seen
1:54:25
you around and you went gray on
us. And he's old. He's getting
1:54:28
up there. And he started off the
briefing with a question
1:54:32
Unknown: here. Have you gotten
any emails from any of your
1:54:34
colleagues in Alaska? You know,
before you came out here,
1:54:37
obviously not while you've been
at the podium, but since about
1:54:40
noon or so.
1:54:41
I wanted to get to your
question.
1:54:45
Have you? What's your question?
Do you have Are you able to look
1:54:50
at them right now my email? I'm
not gonna pull up my email list
1:54:53
from the photo. No, you don't
need to show it to me. Yeah. I
1:54:56
want to notice I want to know if
you've noticed anything
1:54:58
different in the from the The
line where it gives the sender
1:55:03
and then that this would be a
lot better if you would just,
1:55:06
what's your question was? Well,
1:55:07
I mean, you say you haven't
noticed anything now. Okay, so
1:55:11
within the last hour and a half,
two hours, the State
1:55:14
Department's internal email
system, and I tested this, this
1:55:18
group has added pronouns to
people's, not their signature,
1:55:24
but to their former where, you
know, where it says from? Okay,
1:55:29
so it will say him, his or her,
you know, dashi why this is not
1:55:38
an optional thing, this is
something that has been just
1:55:41
arbitrarily imposed. And I
understand that people could
1:55:45
have their pronouns attached if
they'd wanted them to a
1:55:49
signature before. But this is
not something that anyone has a
1:55:53
choice about.
1:55:54
Adam Curry: We have the premise
here that the State Department
1:55:56
was automatically putting
pronouns in the From field.
1:56:00
Yeah. Is it a
1:56:01
John C Dvorak: scandal because
of the glitch?
1:56:04
Unknown: So I'm just wondering,
why and who made this decision?
1:56:08
Well,
1:56:08
I have not seen this phenomenon
for myself. Just to ask you a
1:56:15
question, is it just for
internal State Department and
1:56:19
obviously as if that will be
okay.
1:56:22
I tested someone in this
building. And whereas before, it
1:56:28
did not have any of these
pronouns attached to the
1:56:31
sender's name, it now does. And
I've also been told from other
1:56:34
people, that's the many of them
or at least when you
1:56:37
send it does it doesn't have the
1:56:40
Adam Curry: show too. So anyway,
the State Department indeed,
1:56:43
there was some kind of glitch
because they were indeed or have
1:56:48
been planning to add automatic
or maybe you should be able to
1:56:52
choose pronouns to the from
field, which, now this is an out
1:56:57
they use Outlook. So I'm just
going to presume this is a
1:57:02
Microsoft feature that they will
be adding. And the State
1:57:07
Department is now offering free
therapy to any employees who
1:57:11
feel hurt or upset by this
unfortunate glitch.
1:57:15
John C Dvorak: If they were
misgendering gendered, yes.
1:57:18
Yeah. If your name is Andy, for
example, it could be a woman.
1:57:24
But I get you get to hear her
and hurt your feelings is such
1:57:29
an extreme.
1:57:30
Adam Curry: So we need to come
up with a couple of we've done
1:57:35
this in the past, we need to
help people with ways to stop
1:57:39
the pronoun stuff if someone
says, oh, no, that's a he or she
1:57:42
them or her? Azura No, it's
1:57:45
John C Dvorak: It's butchery is
ruining the English language
1:57:49
makes it harder to write. And
it's idiotic emphasis, very
1:57:55
small, small sub 1% of the
population demandingness. And
1:58:00
why is such a small group
calling the shots
1:58:04
Adam Curry: Well, obviously
because this is part of the
1:58:06
trans Maoist system hobbyists.
So we need to have a comeback,
1:58:12
which we've done in the past.
It's like when someone sends you
1:58:16
an email and then there's a
pronoun in there I think that we
1:58:21
have to start saying excuse me,
I cannot converse with you if
1:58:26
you're doing this but that needs
to be a better comeback.
1:58:33
John C Dvorak: Yes, yes. I
agree. Better come back
1:58:36
Adam Curry: to that we need a
better comeback. We need to have
1:58:39
something I'm looking for
something I'm looking for
1:58:43
something
1:58:43
John C Dvorak: maybe somebody
out there all right, something
1:58:45
that is theirs. We have writers
that have no talent yet maybe
1:58:51
they're on strike taking give us
a free material and they'll come
1:58:55
up with this this one liner that
we're looking for because
1:58:58
Adam Curry: I see this
incorporations all the time now
1:59:02
and then it's virtue signaling
its political it has no business
1:59:06
in business and and we have to
find a polite way to tell people
1:59:11
no I'm I'm I can't I don't know
1:59:13
John C Dvorak: you I get one way
I didn't know you were a
1:59:15
Democrat.
1:59:20
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
1:59:21
courage in the morning to you
the man who put the seat in the
1:59:23
Forever chemicals. Ladies and
gentlemen, please say hello to
1:59:26
my friend on the other end Mr.
John C.
1:59:34
John C Dvorak: Sorry, in the
morning, I was making so much
1:59:37
noise I couldn't hear you in the
morning to you Adam curry also
1:59:40
in the morning all ships see
boots to the ground. Water
1:59:47
Adam Curry: the pronoun virtue
signaling through how many? Oh
1:59:52
wow, we're two hours into the
show and we still have 20 206
1:59:58
That's not too bad. Normally
That's good. Normally we break
2:00:01
one hour in why are we breaking
two hours in?
2:00:04
John C Dvorak: Well, it's very
no donation. That's
2:00:06
Adam Curry: right. The less
donations the more show. It's
2:00:08
amazing. We must we must be
doing something wrong. And maybe
2:00:13
we're just not giving enough
value. I think I think we bring
2:00:16
in the value. People say we're
bringing the value, but what
2:00:19
John C Dvorak: are we maybe
they're tired of these topics
2:00:23
really means possible.
2:00:27
Adam Curry: No. All right, we
can go Oh, all right.
2:00:30
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
other topics are we just
2:00:32
deconstruct whatever news there
is.
2:00:34
Adam Curry: That's pretty much
what we do. Yeah. Anyway, nice
2:00:39
to see you there. Trolls. We
2:00:40
John C Dvorak: got a holiday
coming up that might help even
2:00:42
though it never has in the past.
2:00:45
Adam Curry: Nothing ever helps.
Trolls Hello there, you're
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We're always there. We're always
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didn't motivate people to maybe
to support us. I thought, yes.
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John C Dvorak: I was going to
say when you are going to use
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this, we're going to talk about
the art we should point out that
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on the front page has been
changed to the Art Generator.
2:02:24
Oh, I have not seen the change.
Paul couture has created a
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leaderboard.
2:02:29
Adam Curry: Oh leaderboard top
10 past year I see it. Well.
2:02:33
This is the art came from
Taunton, Neil. And it was
2:02:37
something not discussed in the
show at all, which was a point
2:02:40
of contention. For I said we
didn't discuss this at all. And
2:02:45
you said but it's a beautiful
piece. I couldn't argue with
2:02:47
that. That's the problem. I
could not argue with it being a
2:02:50
beautiful piece. This was the
Department of plumbers dust
2:02:53
busters and fixtures, which I
believe was something Matt Gates
2:02:56
said in one of his performances
in Congress, which is why we
2:02:59
probably didn't play it was an
FBI agent. He said, Oh, they're
2:03:03
just plumbers dust busters and
fixers. them they had a you
2:03:07
know, an FBI agent has a wrench,
a pipe wrench and a DustBuster a
2:03:12
desk Buster, Buster, it was the
best piece. But
2:03:18
John C Dvorak: that was that
that piece and there's also
2:03:20
another piece next to it nearby
by also by tantan deal of her
2:03:25
trying to predict in advance
what the show is going to be
2:03:28
about. Yeah. Which is, which is
a bad idea.
2:03:32
Adam Curry: Yes. Is she doing
this again?
2:03:35
John C Dvorak: No, I'm just
saying she did did she did it
2:03:37
twice. If you look at the piece
that she did go over to there is
2:03:41
another piece. Similar. It's not
similar. It's not half as good.
2:03:45
But it's got the dustbuster done
by her right I also done by her
2:03:50
show. So she was all in on
predicting what we're going to
2:03:53
talk about. And trying to
predict what we're going to talk
2:03:55
about is not necessarily we
don't talk about what you think
2:04:00
we're going to talk about,
generally speaking well here's
2:04:02
Adam Curry: a question for you
seeing the low donations. Are we
2:04:06
talking about the wrong things?
2:04:11
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm all in
for playing these whack job
2:04:14
clips. In fact, right here in
the middle of the donation
2:04:17
segment. I have one oh, here we
go. All right. So this is the
2:04:21
kind of clip that you know it's
not much to talk about it just
2:04:24
silly this silly and the dust
busters thing was to but this is
2:04:27
Linda's now they had a bunch of
Western whistleblowers Right.
2:04:31
Right. Right. Who was really
interesting because the
2:04:35
Democrats were excoriating them
because they were you know, even
2:04:39
though the Democrats are the
ones behind the whole idea of
2:04:42
whistleblowers. They were big
onto the whistleblowers because
2:04:46
you know all going back to the
Pentagon Papers, they were the
2:04:49
ones all trying to protect the
whistleblowers, but now they
2:04:52
hate whistleblowers. Surprise,
surprise. So these guys, so we
2:04:57
have Linda Sanchez, who has
argued Probably one of the two
2:05:01
or three stupidest
representatives in the House or
2:05:05
in the house there are trying to
burn one of these whistleblowers
2:05:09
with an idiotic question. And
let's listen to Linda.
2:05:14
Unknown: Mr. Allen, have you
ever use Twitter? Yes or no?
2:05:17
I have utilized Twitter. Yes.
Okay.
2:05:19
And is your account at Marcus at
97050645?
2:05:26
That is absolutely not my
account. Okay. That's not your
2:05:28
account. Well, on
2:05:29
December 5 2020, to an account
under the name Marcus Allen
2:05:34
retweeted a tweet that said it
is not my account. Ma'am. You
2:05:38
haven't let me finish the
question, sir. football player.
2:05:41
You haven't let me finish the
question on this. And the time
2:05:44
is mine. On December 5 2020, to
an account under the name of
2:05:49
Marcus Allen retweeted a tweet
that said quote, Nancy Pelosi
2:05:53
stage January 6, retweet if you
agree and quote, do you agree
2:05:59
with that statement? Yes or no?
2:06:02
That that is I don't know.
Ma'am. That's not my account at
2:06:05
all.
2:06:06
I have. I'm asking whether you
agree with that statement? Yes
2:06:09
or not? Can
2:06:09
you please rephrase this?
Rephrase. The gentlelady has
2:06:13
expired staged
2:06:14
January 6. I just want him to
answer. Yeah, he'll answer I
2:06:18
just telling you, your time's
up. Do you believe that Nancy
2:06:21
Pelosi Do you agree with the
statement that this person
2:06:24
tweeted that Nancy Pelosi stage
January 6? I asked her No. No.
2:06:29
Thank you. I yield back.
2:06:31
Adam Curry: Oh my goodness.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, you
2:06:36
know, maybe we need to play more
stuff like listen to that you
2:06:39
meet me. Oh ha let's do a tussle
Taunton. You also tried to do
2:06:43
something about the Durham
report. Which it you know and
2:06:46
she put in there which didn't
quite work you know, which is f
2:06:49
being yourself magic corridor to
health. Which was was cute. But
2:06:55
what maybe we should be doing
this. You know, they're so
2:06:58
crazy. It was democratic. Rachel
Maddow.
2:07:00
Unknown: Second thing we are
keeping an eye on tonight is the
2:07:02
reaction particularly the
reaction on the political right,
2:07:05
man,
2:07:05
Adam Curry: she was totally you
know, Trump was right. He was
2:07:08
exonerated right.
2:07:09
Unknown: To the long awaited
Durham report. Job to report
2:07:14
Adam Curry: listen to that mad
cow
2:07:17
Unknown: for long awaited what,
right but
2:07:20
Adam Curry: oh, like she doesn't
know what it is?
2:07:22
Unknown: Well, the reason we're
watching for the right. And
2:07:24
their reaction to this is
because the Durham report is
2:07:27
only really long awaited by
them. And they really, really
2:07:30
have been awaiting this report.
Boy, they have been excited
2:07:34
about this for a long time.
literally for years, former
2:07:37
President Trump and his allies
have been invoking the name John
2:07:41
Durham, or sometimes Bull
2:07:43
Durham.
2:07:44
Adam Curry: Oh, she's gonna lie
listen to her lie, as
2:07:47
Unknown: the man who would save
them and smite all of Trump's
2:07:50
enemies. For years they have
been heralding the great
2:07:53
revelations, John Durham would
soon reveal about Trump's
2:07:56
political opponents and the deep
state and all their evil ways.
2:08:00
Adam Curry: That's exactly
what's in the report, along with
2:08:03
the fact that no agenda is the
best podcast in the universe.
2:08:06
When that
2:08:06
Unknown: didn't seem to be
happening. Trump and his allies
2:08:09
started pounding their chests
and yelling at the clouds about
2:08:12
why Durham hadn't acted yet. Why
he hadn't yet smoked all of
2:08:16
Trump's enemies. Why, you know,
there were Democrats who weren't
2:08:19
yet at Guantanamo.
2:08:23
Adam Curry: And Hillary Clinton
is in Guantanamo. We all know.
2:08:27
That's what people want from us,
John. This clearly what they
2:08:30
want. They want us to do that
kind of material, like every
2:08:33
other podcast out there.
2:08:35
John C Dvorak: Everybody does
that.
2:08:37
Adam Curry: So what I mean, and
who else can tell you how
2:08:40
they're going to take the good
neighborhoods and in Oakland,
2:08:45
from stealing property to the
property? Oh, that's
2:08:48
John C Dvorak: not it
interesting as excoriating
2:08:52
Rachel Maddow. Exactly. There
were one once a week show or she
2:08:55
always looks down like she's so
concerned about what's in the
2:08:58
next blonde one of the most
watching look down at you.
2:09:02
Adam Curry: Yeah, oh yeah, of
course. Of course. Now comics or
2:09:08
Blogger had an interesting
little thing but it was so AI we
2:09:11
couldn't we just couldn't stand
it.
2:09:12
John C Dvorak: No, it was his I
liked a rabid Teddy his AI thing
2:09:16
developed that was a very good
job. Oh it's pretty high.
2:09:20
Adam Curry: Yeah for for the AI
which is good AI the credit you
2:09:26
know, that's what we should be
doing.
2:09:28
John C Dvorak: He did he did
some work on that piece though.
2:09:30
Because he had the gives I know
the AI will give you anything
2:09:34
like no agenda to top and
Coronavirus at the most we had
2:09:37
to put that on by hand and so he
did it in such a way that it did
2:09:40
to have the rabbit overlay it so
he had to do that. Using a
2:09:44
little some trickery.
2:09:46
Adam Curry: I think a lot of
people are using AI comics your
2:09:50
blog just really kind of flooded
the zone with some of his AI
2:09:53
stuff. Darren O'Neal the head
Pinocchio. What was the point of
2:10:00
Pinocchio with the NBC logo and
BBC reports.
2:10:04
John C Dvorak: We had sorry
about them lying all the time.
2:10:06
But the problem I had with that
piece was that I don't believe
2:10:10
that Darren licensed that
Pinocchio character and Disney's
2:10:14
really uptight about anything
use of their characters and I
2:10:18
don't want to even talk
2:10:19
Adam Curry: before you know,
though they'll leave your state
2:10:22
taking all their business with
you with them.
2:10:24
John C Dvorak: So the point that
is like, no, they tend to sue.
2:10:28
They did and I'm not do paying
doing anything with the Disney
2:10:33
character you forget it. There's
not a good there was there was
2:10:38
good stuff to use. It's just
that I was arguing because
2:10:42
because of the prettiness and
just the professionalism of this
2:10:47
one piece, which and US made the
argument a you know, we didn't
2:10:50
even talk about that.
2:10:51
Adam Curry: Yeah, which at
which, but it was it was the
2:10:54
nicest piece amongst all the
other things.
2:10:58
John C Dvorak: It was the nicest
to an extreme. That's if it was
2:11:01
less. That's the
2:11:02
Adam Curry: problem. That's the
problem. It was not and you were
2:11:05
like, Oh, we can do the AI with
the car, which is just No, no,
2:11:09
that was just not cutting. I
actually liked the
2:11:12
John C Dvorak: we liked that AI
with the car piece. I just
2:11:14
suggested it was usable.
2:11:16
Adam Curry: I like the SIR Polka
tour the bill as the shill. But
2:11:20
of course you pointed out that
it was very unclear because the
2:11:23
Sheila was way too small for the
artwork, which is always my my
2:11:27
gripe and so I couldn't get out
from under that one. Obviously.
2:11:32
John C Dvorak: I didn't get that
piece. Yeah, well, because we
2:11:34
Adam Curry: were talking about
bills and you know, I don't know
2:11:37
it had something to do with the
show at least. Maybe, maybe,
2:11:41
maybe Johnson he was not even
listened to the show. He just
2:11:44
gets up in the morning looks at
the news look past it looks at
2:11:47
Twitter, and I'll just do one of
these. See if I can get on the
2:11:50
leaderboard.
2:11:52
John C Dvorak: Early in the
game, that piece would take some
2:11:54
time. The leader versus number
two
2:11:57
Adam Curry: currently now at the
top 10. Ladies gentlemen at
2:12:00
number 10 Darren O'Neal comments
for Blogger number nine Roger
2:12:03
round eaten that he'll be off
the charts soon as he start he's
2:12:06
John C Dvorak: doing stuff from
the shelf and he's basically a
2:12:09
married man with a job
2:12:10
Adam Curry: same Kenny Ben comes
in at number seven. Nico Syme,
2:12:14
who's relatively new to the
chart number six, correct
2:12:17
director at five Sir Paul
couture. Who is the purveyor of
2:12:21
the entire Art Generator number
four networks at number three,
2:12:24
Tom to kneel who just had her
16th When at number two and
2:12:27
number one on top of the chart
capitalist agenda with 18 wins.
2:12:31
We also now need for next week
we need to know someone went up
2:12:36
or down on the chart if someone
is Oh, yeah. And the arrows we
2:12:39
need bold arrow bullets when you
know if someone enters the chart
2:12:42
with a bullet. There's a full
leaderboard as well. Oh my
2:12:45
goodness is there's like a full
leaderboard of how many artists
2:12:48
are 213 We have 213 artists well
213 Also the all time
2:12:55
leaderboard, all time
leaderboard, okay. But like
2:12:59
Nick, the rat is all time winner
with 189 wins Martin J. J with
2:13:05
107. And unbelievably, the non
artists Darren O'Neill, number
2:13:11
three of all time with 99 wins.
2:13:15
John C Dvorak: There was a
moment in time when Nick de Rata
2:13:19
you can go look at his his page
and see this. He's got pay. He's
2:13:23
got 1020 pages of art. Nick, the
rat was submitting serious stuff
2:13:28
for about two or three years.
And it's a still there. I mean,
2:13:32
you still look at his old stuff.
And you see this that is still
2:13:35
usable. Nick the rat was really
quite a phenomenon for for a
2:13:40
while. Somebody's got to start
doing his own show got a big
2:13:43
head lost his touch. What Yeah,
2:13:45
Adam Curry: exactly. Once I went
on the show, as a guest, then he
2:13:49
was he was just getting
senators, heads of state all
2:13:52
kinds of people on his show. And
you're right. And then he got me
2:13:55
on the show got me me on the
show. And then you got a big
2:13:57
head and you just quit. That's
not true. He has tried a few
2:14:01
things recently, once in a while
does something
2:14:04
John C Dvorak: lost his touch
somewhere?
2:14:07
Adam Curry: No agenda art.
generator.com is where you can
2:14:09
follow along. Or if you're using
that, that cool new podcast app
2:14:13
I told you about. You'll see
these many of these pieces that
2:14:17
we discuss, used throughout the
duration of the show, as Dred
2:14:21
Scott puts those in his chapter
art. And now I believe a couple
2:14:26
of pod verse and fountain they
have was at Android Auto and
2:14:33
CarPlay. So you can actually see
the art change on your dashboard
2:14:37
while you're driving. Nice.
Yeah, it's actually it's pretty
2:14:41
cool. Thank you very much
artists. We appreciate all that
2:14:44
you do. Now we're going to thank
our executive and Associate
2:14:46
Executive producers for episode
1557. We kick it off with our
2:14:51
top donor and executive producer
one of two sir Scott the Jew
2:14:56
from Post Falls, Idaho who I
believe also sent in a meter
2:14:58
report in the morning name John
C and Adam J H NSI. Please
2:15:04
accept this donation generated
at the latest North Idaho sanity
2:15:07
brigade Third Thursday monthly
meetup every Oh, this is nice.
2:15:11
every attendee chipped in all
via the fistful of cash plopped
2:15:15
down into the middle of the
table. They're badass up there
2:15:18
in Idaho. The following people
are first time donors and need
2:15:22
do you do things Claude The
gypsy
2:15:26
Unknown: you've been deed deuced
2:15:29
Adam Curry: and Dave
2:15:32
Unknown: you've been deed deuced
2:15:36
Adam Curry: I like that I like
it when I like it when when they
2:15:40
pitch in at the meetup that's
kind of cool. Not all meetups do
2:15:44
that but I think it's a it's a
good trend. Please play trains
2:15:47
good planes bad thank you for
your courage and stay safe. The
2:15:50
board trains planes
2:15:58
John C Dvorak: Jack Tinkler
comes in with 333 Columbus
2:16:03
Georgia. And he is noticing
that's going on is that
2:16:07
MailChimp changed something and
I'm not getting my my opens.
2:16:11
Watch it the normal number you
buy down by bus only about 10%
2:16:15
but it's down but
2:16:16
Adam Curry: now you're blaming
that on MailChimp. And not just
2:16:18
the fact that people don't read
the newsletter.
2:16:22
John C Dvorak: No, I blame it on
MailChimp or maybe Google
2:16:25
because Google is changing stuff
all the time but I'm still my my
2:16:29
basic got the guys guys out
there. Oh, the basic check is
2:16:33
where it comes through. They're
still checking in with a
2:16:35
positive note. So good. I'm
guessing is MailChimp Okay, all
2:16:40
right. So let's start with Jack
Tinkler here in Columbus,
2:16:44
Georgia. And we're and I will
say that because we got no 3333
2:16:47
threes today we just got one
Jacques de douche me please.
2:16:54
Unknown: You've been de deuced
2:16:57
John C Dvorak: he was no karma
PS. John and Adam. You all my
2:17:01
best friends. Ah, this is y'all
I could you wouldn't do in
2:17:05
Georgia.
2:17:07
Adam Curry: Well, we're happy to
be your best friends works. Then
2:17:10
we go straight to Associate
Executive Producers Kenny Corson
2:17:13
in North Haven, Maine $205.19.
And he says see attached note
2:17:19
which I have here. It's long, so
I won't read it all. But he does
2:17:22
say in the morning, John and
Adam. Adam, congratulations on
2:17:25
your anniversary. That's right.
Tina and I celebrated on Friday,
2:17:28
four years of blissful marriage.
And on last Monday, it was eight
2:17:34
years that we've been together.
He says my wife and I happened
2:17:38
to share the same date 22 years
and we've never had a fight. See
2:17:43
the last three digits of the
donation This is my third
2:17:46
donation in three years, so it
seems as though I should be de
2:17:49
Deus.
2:17:52
Unknown: You've been de deuced
2:17:54
Adam Curry: speaking of deuces,
can you call out Chris
2:17:56
Hutchinson and Emerson tremble
as douchebags nice says Enjoy
2:18:04
the first one syrup from our
farm. Did you get the syrup? Did
2:18:07
we get all this?
2:18:07
John C Dvorak: Yes, I did. I
have not tried it yet. But I
2:18:09
did. We also I want to mention
this there's another guy I wish
2:18:13
I could find this note who sent
me a couple of syrups also from
2:18:20
Pennsylvania and he sent me a
handwritten note and I can't
2:18:23
find his email so I can't get
back to him with a lawyer
2:18:25
advice. So the syrup he sent the
commercial stuff in any sense on
2:18:33
Nicola cooking syrup which he
can't sell commercially as a
2:18:36
syrup I
2:18:37
Adam Curry: got these two Yes, I
got a syrup the cookies the
2:18:39
regular syrup and the cooking
syrup. Yes,
2:18:41
John C Dvorak: cooking syrup,
the cooking syrup if it was
2:18:44
rebranded I'm telling you this
this is a money maker. Oh real
2:18:48
is cooking stuff if it's
rebranded as maple flavored
2:18:51
coffee sweetener
2:18:54
Adam Curry: even though it's
real stuff
2:18:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's real
stuff but you because look you
2:19:00
know they got this it's very
intense. It's very maplelea it
2:19:04
is a giant again a cappuccino. A
cappuccino, cappuccino it is
2:19:11
Adam Curry: on believable now
are you making cappuccinos at
2:19:14
the house these days?
2:19:16
John C Dvorak: I make
cappuccinos. Sure. I've been
2:19:18
making epigenesis seven days.
Now I will mention one other
2:19:21
thing. Also, I make a an iced
coffee made in the in the form
2:19:27
of a chocolate egg cream. Which
anyone? Do I live in Brooklyn?
2:19:32
No. So I make an iced coffee
like I call it a coffee a cream.
2:19:37
I use the maple syrup in that
for the sweetener. Drop dead.
2:19:45
Adam Curry: I used his cooking
syrup on. This is what I do.
2:19:49
When I make salmon which I bake
in the oven. I will drizzle a
2:19:54
little bit of maple syrup on top
of the salmon and then I put
2:19:59
less than lemon pepper on on top
of that, and this all baked in
2:20:05
the oven, and I really enjoyed
the cooking maple syrup. I will
2:20:09
try it in the coffee though it's
a good idea apparently he gave
2:20:15
us $3 In Canadian money and
without he says it stems from
2:20:20
the comments a while but of
course I people are mad about
2:20:23
the what I said about two and $1
Canadian bills. I don't know
2:20:27
what I said. But just keep up
the good work. Can I get a New
2:20:29
York you said it was cheesy. And
well there you go. Can I get a
2:20:34
New York Times vocal fry? My son
Odin and his friend Ramy love it
2:20:38
followed by a bit of Sharpton
Oh, I didn't didn't grab any
2:20:41
Sharpton for you on on our ESP
ICT Yeah, I got that.
2:20:50
Unknown: You know, obviously, I
re I read The New York Times
2:20:54
like all day long, mainly on my
iPad
2:21:03
DSP ICT and he
2:21:05
Adam Curry: is from four acre
farm in North Haven Island Maine
2:21:09
Thank you
2:21:11
John C Dvorak: Eric sank my her
in Fort Gratiot there's a way
2:21:18
pronouncing I don't remember how
2:21:20
Adam Curry: Gratiot Grusha he's
almost at it right brush rash
2:21:23
hit or gras