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John C Dvorak: Ah, incompatible
hardware. Adam curry,
Unknown: Jhansi Dvorak,
Adam Curry: Sunday, May 21 2023.
This Year Award winning
accumulation media assassination
episode 1557.
Unknown: This is no agenda,
Adam Curry: casing a charm
offensive. broadcasting live
from the heart of the Texas hill
country here in the region
number six in the morning,
everybody.
John C Dvorak: I'm Adam curry
and from Northern Silicon
Valley, where we're all cheering
Karen a Fuji who's one eight in
a row in the main tournament.
I'm John Seymour. It
Adam Curry: never ceases to
amaze me. We're in the middle of
on the brink of a nuclear war.
We have all kinds of horrible
things happening climate change,
but we still have sumo wrestling
to fall back on.
John C Dvorak: And the big
Yokozuna is back
Adam Curry: are you all jacked?
How long has it been going on
the the the tour the
competition? Eight days, and
you've been watching every
single day?
John C Dvorak: I missed the
first day. Okay,
Adam Curry: and who are we
supposed to vote for your vote?
I have a route.
Unknown: I mean, Rudy the road
John C Dvorak: for deleting
goalscorer.
Adam Curry: Okay
John C Dvorak: terreno Fuji he's
the Yokozuna is the big guys a
big giant Mongolian
Adam Curry: on all these
ointment. Don't you have to be
Japanese by
John C Dvorak: no no. The big
guy the big boys of the last say
couple of decades have been
Samoan American Hawaiian. But
these big Mongolians are really
well and this guy is the top guy
and he's a Mongolian and Okay,
so Ben wonder pounds 200 That
doesn't seem like that's 400 400
Adam Curry: we know now in New
York, they're passing a bill you
can't discriminate against fat
people. Which I thought was
already Kenji already.
John C Dvorak: It was already a
rule.
Adam Curry: I think it's just
virtue signaling New York would
expect Oh, they're just
John C Dvorak: virtuous. Yes.
Adam Curry: We got a we got let
me kick it off with the super
cut little mini super cut from
from clip collector Steve Jones.
I missed it. I didn't even
realize this was going on. But
we know that a lot is happening.
g7 is the Lensky touring around.
Not just a tour though.
Unknown: Tonight charm offense.
Ukraine's president makes a so
stopping visit to the g7 summit
in Japan. hello to Mr. Lynch
keep pushing for more war aid
and rallying allies to stay the
course against Russia's
invasion.
For ultimate Zelensky knows
there's a growing debate across
Europe about how long Ukraine's
war effort can be supported. For
now. He's hoping that Sharma
fences pressure on his Western
allies to turn solidarity into
action
as president Solinsky he's been
on another charm offensive over
the last couple of days. What
has been Germany the Vatican
France and now the UK what he
needs what he wants
unsurprisingly is more weapons
and it
seems like Britain's gonna get
into this but he's also a much
needed charm offensive so there
is a lot a lot of backroom
bargaining and charm offensive
that needs to be done and he'll
be hoping to go home with a lot
in his back pocket F 16 fighter
jets from the Netherlands 18
million pounds apiece wants the
full arsenal the full money so
look, he's on charm offensive
and I think Eddie you probably
get
his trip to Japan. bruited about
reported online but now he's
actually there. I got
he is he arrived today and this
comes right in the middle of an
extended charm offensive for
Adam Curry: I'm telling you,
man, this is a worldwide
phenomenon. The charm, the charm
offensive. It's every station
all around the world.
John C Dvorak: The smells of
collusion is to get your talking
points from smells like
collusion to me. Love we're
gonna talk g7 I had the g7
report from I believe this is
NPR.
Adam Curry: All right. Well,
there's nothing like little NPR
in the morning
Unknown: and Pure White House
correspondent Scott Tetro joins
us from Hiroshima. Scott, thanks
for being with us.
John C Dvorak: Was it really
stopped there?
Adam Curry: Do we need to clip
that?
John C Dvorak: I did, because I
wanted to mention this thing.
Now. Why are Hiroshima instead
of Hiroshima? Well, I don't care
about the pronunciation. I'm
caring about the point that they
dropped an atom bomb on that
town. Yeah. And it wasn't like a
an a nuclear power plant that
melted down or anything. It was
a bomb that released all of his
fissionable material across the
whole area, but yet, just really
was in recent memory. They're
having meetings there. So how
dangerous nuclear power
Adam Curry: I don't know. And
also I think Nagasaki was booked
so they had to How to do it to
Hiroshima.
John C Dvorak: So the point is
is that why is why is the left
side still freakishly weird
about nuclear power when you're
having meetings? I think that's
a very a store and Cairo place
was decimated but not desperate.
It was blowed up by a nuclear
bombs flattened, flattened.
That's That's why I stopped
Texas. Let's go on.
Adam Curry: That's real. That's
a very good point. Because you
know, oh, we still can't go to
Chernobyl. Oh, no. There are
there are apparently there is an
expiration date on on nuclear
fallout and radiation
John C Dvorak: very expiration
date is coming first Chernobyl
Unknown: loading trip to Japan.
bruited about reported online
but now he's actually there I
got he
is he arrived today?
Adam Curry: What kind of intro
is this guy give no I guess it's
like he's there. He's actually
there. I gather disinterested in
his job. Listen to this
Unknown: and but now he's
actually
John C Dvorak: there. This guy
has a style all his own. Yeah,
it's
Unknown: a load of Merrill Lynch
case trip to Japan. bruited
about reported online at about
oh, he's actually there. I
Adam Curry: got what is bruited
about Brutus brooded?
John C Dvorak: I guess people
were brooding over it. I have no
idea how
Adam Curry: strange
Unknown: he is. He arrived
today. And this comes right in
the middle of an extended charm
offensive from Yeah, oh, just
coming ahead. What we expect
will be a major military
offensive from Ukraine.
Solinsky, remember, had not left
the country much for obvious
reasons for much of the first
year of the war. Then he had
that dramatic trip to Washington
at the end of last year. And
more recently, Zelinsky has been
visiting heads of government in
several countries to pressure
them to keep supporting Ukraine
as military costs keep going up.
And as the war keeps dragging on
the trip to the g7 comes
immediately after Zelinsky made
a similar case to the Arab
League in Saudi Arabia the other
day. We do not know much about
his exact agenda here in
Hiroshima, though the White
House is indicating he will
almost certainly have a one on
one meeting with President Biden
on Sunday.
And I gather there's a major
welcoming gift in the offing.
President Biden now indicates
that he would support Ukraine
acquiring F 16 fighter jets from
Western countries. That's a
change, isn't it?
It's a much larger gift than
they had in the gift bags for
the reporters covering.
Adam Curry: Wow, I bet you know
what, I'll pay you to actually
get gift bags.
John C Dvorak: Well, she that it
was who I stopped a clip there.
Adam Curry: This is this is a
dynamite little thing.
John C Dvorak: Now the question
in my mind is is this gift bags
are very commonplace in
Hollywood at the US Hollywood
and entertainment reporting.
Adam Curry: Entertainment
reporting being the key.
John C Dvorak: Exactly. And so
I'm thinking is this guy either
Are they are they are giving
away gift bags, because they
don't make it very clear that
they're not. And they joke about
it. The two of them laugh and
yucky. Or is it just that this
guy is like everybody else, I
guess on TV and entertainment
reporter forced to do real news
coverage, which is kind of my
guess, but I couldn't be wrong.
Maybe they did get a gift bag.
Adam Curry: I gotta give it to
you right off the bat. It's
early, but still, that we've
never heard the gift bags in
reporting. And this is NPR. You
can't horse around on NPR. Not
when it's when the world is on
fire. You can't do that.
John C Dvorak: I find it
peculiar. I like I think we have
one more or less. Yes, we do.
Unknown: But on a serious note,
this is a huge escalation and
how the US areas are arming
Ukraine, Ukraine had been
begging for these jets for more
than a year. I didn't resist it.
He was worried that this could
be something that would lead
Russia to broaden the war and
perhaps retaliate against other
countries. But now, this week,
Biden has told other g7 leaders
the US will support efforts to
train Ukrainian pilots on f 16
fighter jets, and begin
conversations about how to get f
16 from other countries to
Ukraine. And at a briefing
today, National Security Adviser
Jake Sullivan said the US has
adjusted its position based on
how Russia has waged its war and
how Ukraine has responded. He
also told us that as the US has
increased the magnitude of the
weapons it's providing one key
thing has been getting promises
from Ukraine that it will not
use them to attack inside
Russia. And he indicated that
that promise would be key when
it comes to these f6 teams
Adam Curry: will kind of
bullcrap promises that what's
the point of having if you can't
fly over Moscow? This
John C Dvorak: this is not
showing any signs of letting up.
Adam Curry: No, you're correct.
It doesn't. Well, but there's a
couple of things all happens in
the same few days. Including
this little report
Unknown: and accounting error at
the Pentagon overvalued US aid
sent the Ukraine by $3 billion.
Reuters cited today Defense
officials who said weapons taken
from the US military stock had
been assigned a much higher
value than they should have
been. The officials also say
there are inconsistencies in how
the equipment sent to Ukraine
has been valued. The error could
result in the US sending more
weapons to help against Russia.
Adam Curry: So we just magically
made we magically made 3 billion
appear thanks to an accounting
error.
John C Dvorak: So you can send
them more Yes, we
Adam Curry: can send them 3
billion more like that we
John C Dvorak: were sending and
I don't I thought we were
sending them weapons they
needed. I didn't think we were
sending them out, like value
that they need. And others what
why are they counting the
nickels and dimes here? Because
if you want a bullet, you want a
bullet whether it costs a nickel
dime or $1.
Adam Curry: Well, it's because
of the because of the amount of
money that has been appropriated
by Congress. So they needed a
little more apparently, for the
training that we know from our,
from our insiders in the
currently active military, that
f6 teams are fine, but you've
got to train the pilots, you
need to have ongoing
maintenance, you need to have
parts the maintenance you have
to you can't rewrite all the
manuals in Ukrainian so you need
Americans there boots on the
ground, which is what you've
been saying what would happen,
you need to have the right
facility for airport. So there's
a lot of things that have to
happen. And
John C Dvorak: this is not like
buying, you know, a just simple
drone.
Adam Curry: And also, according
to our contact, most of these
Ukrainian fighters will need
quite a jet fighter pilots will
need quite a lot of training
because they're just going to
ruin these jets. It's not as
simple as Oh, I'm flying to MIG
29 a beat up old piece of crap.
I'm going to jump in a f 16 and
fly it you know, takes a little
time. Now let's go to France 20
For the most honest for a new
service I've been able to find
and we bring in a the head
lecturer is this guy? Right? Is
this the guy? where's the
where's the lecture guy? Here we
go. The lecture guy, military
lecture, a guy from University
of Portsmouth, Oxford
Unknown: floodings, Utah. And is
this going to be too late for
the spring the counter offensive
that we hear so much about?
The spring counter offensive?
Oh, completely?
John C Dvorak: Wait a minute.
Yeah, I would say if it goes
into summer, yeah, it's too late
for the spring counter
offensive, but you can do a
summer, we're not even
Adam Curry: gonna get summer
this is going to take years
Unknown: Biden's Utah is this
isn't going to be too late for
the spring counter offensive
that we hear so much about,
oh, completely. These will not
be deployed in any numbers, we
may see some cosmetic deployment
before the end of the year. But
I suspect it'll be spring next
year before we see them
operating to their potential.
And that's when we may see them
flying around. But that isn't
operating to their potential.
These objects just as any
component of their power are
part of a much more complex
picture. They need to be
trained, exercised, maintained,
based to form part of that
system. And putting that system
together from not quite from
scratch. But there's a lot to do
will take many, many months, not
least the training of the
aircrew, ground crew and
preparation of the bases and a
lot more besides James,
Adam Curry: I'm so amazed at
France 24 is really the only
honest outfit out there. And so
of course, the question is what
really what changed? Does this
make what
Unknown: will realistically
changed here, but nothing much
they saber rattling threats for
the high Mars, the long range
artillery system in much earlier
in the war, calling all that
escalation this against the
background, of course, constant
bombardment day after day of
high high end cruise missiles,
most of which caused a shutdown
by the gift of anti aircraft
missiles by tanks. And now we
hear it's over jet. I don't
think we've much to worry about
just yet.
My question is, which of
Ukraine's allies are likely to
deliver on these jets? How many
are they going to need for this
to actually make the difference,
but probably need an excess of
30 to make any sorts of impact?
I think we won't know yet who
the donor countries are. All
countries are required to get to
all the countries that operated
right now are required by those
countries. There are constraints
as to the types that are sent.
There are constraints also on
the avionics that are inside the
jets that may need to be
modified to be sent to Ukraine.
So we won't know that I think
just yet but the coalition which
certainly existed as 16 donating
nations, we'll be thinking about
that very carefully right now.
But I would suggest it would
probably be a couple of European
countries.
Adam Curry: Yeah. And wouldn't
you know, in excess of 30 is
what he said. The Netherlands
just cancelled the deal between
the country and Drake, an
international US arms dealer, a
private company for the sale of
40 f 16. Fighters hmm Have they
finally gotten the Netherlands
to pony up? Looks like that's
where the disability meet. So
meanwhile, while this is all
taking place and we'll get to
Bach mood in a moment, kings
olanski is over in Saudi Arabia
of dressing the bros. They're
Unknown: here at the summit who
have a different view on the Hun
John C Dvorak: stop there you
get the timeline? Correct. He
was in Saudi Arabia before he
went to g7.
Adam Curry: Okay, but this is
all happening in the background.
Yeah. Okay.
Unknown: So here at the summit
who have a different view on the
war on our land, calling it a
conflict, I'm sure that we can
all be united in saving people
from the cages of Russian
prisons,
Adam Curry: the cages of Russian
prisons, it doesn't seem to be
about an attack on on Ukraine
anymore.
Unknown: Fortunately, there are
some in the world and here among
you who turn a blind eye to
those cages and illegal
annexations
Adam Curry: and what cages have
we missed something in the
reporting of cages or people
being
John C Dvorak: talking about
that journalist that was picked
up and thrown in jail? I
Unknown: to those cages and
illegal annexations and I'm here
so that everyone can take an
honest look, no matter how hard
the Russians tried to influence,
there must still be independence
in the occupied Crimea are
Muslim and more than SNA
Adam Curry: I don't understand
why this happened. The audio is
almost like it was an insert the
audio goes way down and then we
get something about the
occupiers of Muslim listen
again,
Unknown: there must still be
independence in the occupied
Crimea, Muslim and the
Adam Curry: occupied in Crimea
are Muslims. So that's his
appeal, I guess. And I'm not
John C Dvorak: yes, it was noted
on either news, our NPR that
this he was appealing to the
Muslims, claiming that Ukraine
is like a mother. You didn't
ever set it. And I think they
had to, I think that's
surprising to
Adam Curry: sounds inserted
John C Dvorak: because Because
Ukraine is not a Muslim country.
There's a pocket or two of
Muslims in Ukraine and he's
trying to make it sound as
though they're going to help
their fellow members of the
ummah.
Adam Curry: This is a chat GPT
glitch that went wrong.
Unknown: There must still be
independence in the occupied
Crimea. Muslim, I'm more than
sure that none of you will agree
to surrender a thought of your
country to the invaders. And I'm
more than sure none of you would
watch without a fight how
foreigners steal the children of
your people,
Adam Curry: our back to stealing
the children. Okay, that's what
we need to just the children got
it. Okay, so now we have the
news that Bach mood has been
taken has been taken by of
course, our favorite the Wagner
group.
John C Dvorak: And if you want
which clip Do you have because I
have one from NPR. That is,
well, I have a Deutsche Ella
sure BS.
Adam Curry: Let's do yours
first. Because Georgia Bella is
the CIA. So let's listen to
yours first. Hold on. What's it
called? Oh, a bull crap. No.
John C Dvorak: Yes, it's called
Ukraine.
Adam Curry: Oh, got it. Okay,
Unknown: here we go. I heard of
a Russian mercenary force a they
have completely captured the
eastern Ukrainian city of Bach
moot. amperes Charles Maynes has
more WhatsApp.
video posted to social media.
The head of the Wagner mercenary
group of Guinea precaution said
after more than seven months of
fighting in what he called the
meat grinder of Bach moot his
forces it sees the city in its
entirety. Yet even as precaution
spoken to the camera explosions
could be heard in the distance.
precaution also read up
complaints the Russian defense
ministries top brass had
intentionally started Wagner of
arms during the siege, costing
1000s of additional lives. Even
as he said responsibility for
holding the city would now pass
to the Russian army while his
forces took rest. Meanwhile,
Ukraine denied precautions
claims with officials and key
have seen heavy fighting and
bucketload continued.
John C Dvorak: Okay, now a
couple of things. Didn't we hear
that this guy whose name I can't
pronounce Rigoni rugosa.
Adam Curry: Ran Wagner.
John C Dvorak: Mr. Wagner, he
just recently said well, we're
gonna leave we're quitting.
We're going to leave this and
leave it to the Russian screw
up. Yeah. as though they were
going to just bail. Yeah. Well,
now he says, Well, we took over
the place that we're going to
leave it to the Russians. I
mean, these stories are just
annoying. They're these days
reporting is sucks. It's
dreadful, but also,
Adam Curry: what is so so so
Some media video shows this dude
this Putzmeister Putzmeister
promotion and he's got a run hot
dog man a hot dog man he's got a
flag he's got like eight guys
behind him who look I'm telling
you look like Dad's Army they
don't look like the killing
machine that the you know the
the fiercest killing horrible
fighters smashing people with
sledgehammers that we heard
about. And that's it. That's the
whole and then
John C Dvorak: yeah, there's
that forgot about that aspect of
it. This these bullcrap stories
about the sledge hammers? Yeah.
And they come on. Right.
Adam Curry: So here's Deutsche
Avella, which is always approved
by the CIA,
Unknown: and with yassky 1000s
of kilometers away at the g7.
Back in Ukraine, the head of
Russia's Vagner mercenary group
has claimed a breakthrough
through fields getting corrosion
claims in this video that his
forces have fully captured the
eastern city of Buck wound.
Ukraine's military has been
quick to deny the ruined city
has fallen. He says its troops
are still defending their
positions. But he is what should
we make of precautions claims?
It's hard to say no at the
moment what the situation is.
But we are really talking about
a few streets that were left
under Ukrainian control
yesterday. More until recently,
it's precisely these streets
where the Ukrainian military
says that fights are still going
on that they would put up
resistance, but the situation
was critical. So it's very hard
to say, what's what's the exact
situation on the ground.
unlikely that by the end of the
day or this weekend, Wagner will
have full control over the city
if they don't have it yet. It's
also possible of course, that
the Ukrainians can hold on
further this could be
the Russians in check in order
to retreat, or it could be an
attempt to keep them there. It's
hard to say, but it's clear that
has really advanced until a
very, very small patch of the
city.
Adam Curry: Alright, so for
weeks this was this was this was
the pinnacle, the whole war
hinged on Bach Moog Bach mood
Bach mood, now it's street
couple streets maybe doesn't
mean anything,
Unknown: dude. And what's the
significance? If it does take
all of back them up? Does it
change the strategic situation,
it changes
maybe the situation on the
ground with the Russian troops
because it wouldn't be their
first success in many months.
And that's, of course, something
that's also significant in a
war. But it is not the strategic
place that it has been sometimes
made. In the discussion. It is a
place that sits at a crossroads
where Russia would need to take
it if it wants to advance
further. But it's also not that
the roads are open for them to
advance as they please if if
they just control this town,
it's more of a symbolic victory
because remember, this fight
around the city has been going
on for many many months, and
it's been the most heavy the
hotspot of the war for many,
many months. So it would
certainly be a symbolic victory
John C Dvorak: case. This guy
was just getting trained by CNN
remember this good stuff? Yes.
Yeah. Left. Oh, my God is
looking left looking right. What
you're wearing a helmet.
Adam Curry: No, he wasn't. He
wasn't about he was he was just
in his office. He was in in his
office in in chief. me this.
This is but this is my point.
This is wag the dog. It's just a
bunch of this was the most
important fight, but I screwed
that we got f 16 is coming guy.
It'll be in a couple of years.
But you know. And then Reuters
reports. A couple years.
Reuters. Reuters reports that in
the forthcoming July NATO Summit
in Vilnius leaders are set to
approve 1000s of pages of secret
military plans that will detail
for the first time since the
Cold War, Cold War, how the
alliance will respond to a
Russian attack. These people are
insane. They love war. They just
love it.
John C Dvorak: They're raising
money.
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, of
course. But you know, it's like
this is stupid. Now, I have a
couple of clips of also from
NPR, of this, of the Arab
summit, the Arab League Summit,
because who shows up all of a
sudden, Angelina Jolie and bad
Brad Pitt's buddy? Assad
pleaders? Yeah
Unknown: crossback. He's back
worlds are meeting in Saudi
Arabia and someone who hasn't
been in the room for over a
decade is making a reappearance.
Syria's President Bashar Al
Assad is officially ending years
of isolation by the region's
powers. Over his brutal civil
war that's killed an estimated
half a million people.
Washington has condemned the
kingdom's normalization of ties
with Assad and the invitation is
seen as another sign of the
strained relationship between
the US and Saudi Arabia's at
a of a trial he is in Jeddah.
That's where this year's Arab
League Summit is taking place.
Good morning. Good morning.
Morning, Leila.
Adam Curry: So the NPR stop has
got to stop. Good morning. Good
morning. Good morning, America.
It
Unknown: is taking place. Good
morning. Good morning. The
return of Bashar Al Assad who
was something of a pariah over
his crackdown on the opposition
to his rule, the torture in
prisons, the hundreds of 1000s
who have been killed in the
Civil War. Now he's just being
welcomed back.
Adam Curry: This is such bull
crap. We this was all a hoax.
All the bombing of the chemical
weapons of his own people, the
White Helmets. The whole thing
was a hoax. I mean, this is as
if it as if all of that was
never happened that was never
deconstructed. NPR just goes Oh,
yeah, memory was killing his own
people. His dad did that for
sure. But this what is he? Isn't
he an eye doctor? I think he's
an eye doctor. absolute
knowledge. Yeah.
ophthalmologist? Yeah, this
horrible guy with a list?
Unknown: Well, yeah, I mean,
that is pretty much what's
happened. Look, there are
countries important ones like
Egypt and the United Arab
Emirates that had already been
building back their ties into
Syria for years now. But the big
shift really happened after
February's earthquakes that
struck Turkey and parts of
Syria. It gave Saudi Arabia and
other countries around the fence
in this region, what they needed
to reengage with Syria, at least
for humanitarian purposes at
first, but not everyone in the
region agrees with this embrace
of acid, Qatar and Kuwait are
both opposed. And the image of
Assad being welcomed here on the
red carpet yesterday when he
arrived in Jeddah is jarring to
many Syrians as well. We've got
to
John C Dvorak: figure out you
know, I've got to figure this
out. This can this works out
with zolecki going to Saudi
Arabia and slamming the Russians
because the real problem was
Syria and us and our people is
the Russia the Russians for
Russian stronghold. They use it
as a docking port. They have
every you know, bases there for
all practical purposes. And it's
it's their kind of outpost why
we use other places, plenty. So
they have their outpost in
Syria, and we make a big fuss
about it and try to get rouse
them or others more. It's just
sorry. Yes. And so you have this
phony baloney, Zelinsky going
into Saudi Arabia for no good
reason except to slam the
Russians. Because which is part
of a effort to keep Syria from
RE you know, joining with the
Arab League, which didn't work
because no one's gonna believe
this guy. He's a midget.
Adam Curry: There's more from
NPR things that Lansky comes up
to
Unknown: is to remind people how
the war started in Syria, it was
protest against essence rule
that were violently repressed
that turned into a civil war.
Saudi Arabia, the host country
today back the rebels trying to
topple Assad. And today, this
return means what that is it has
officially won.
Well, I mean, his country is an
economic crisis right now. And
US sanctions are really impeding
efforts to normalize with him.
But yeah, I mean, the effort to
topple him failed when Russia
and Iran rushed to his side. And
now Syria, civil wars at a
stalemate, millions of Syrian
refugees are waiting to return
and that is going to require
rebuilding Syria and Arab states
do want a piece of that. And
they're hoping Syria can
reorient itself back to the Arab
fold and away from Iran, which
still has a very big footprint
there.
Adam Curry: Iran comes into the
play and as we know, the only
two weeks away from having the
nuclear bomb. So as you
mentioned,
John C Dvorak: but yeah, that
was two weeks ago.
Adam Curry: It was about two
weeks ago. Maybe it's two weeks
more.
Unknown: So as you mentioned,
Saudi is the region's
powerbroker, lots of influence
economically, politically,
religiously. What's Saudi Arabia
hoping to get out of the summit?
The Kingdom wants to flex its
diplomatic muscles. Crown Prince
Mohammed bin Salman was long
seen as a brash, impulsive, even
unpredictable leader but he's
reversing course on a lot of
that and trying to rebrand Saudi
Arabia as a mediator, including
even in the war between Russia
and Ukraine. And I'm hearing
from diplomatic sources that
Ukrainian president Volodymyr
Zelensky has been invited to
attend the Arab League summit in
Jeddah. So this is Prince
Mohammed really flexing that
ability resisting us pressure to
pick aside go against Russia
while also inviting acid a
patron of Russia to a summit
where Zielinski could be in
attendance. So it's really a
crown prince showcasing his
power as a broker on the world
stage and piarsaigh of a trolley
Ingenta Thank you.
John C Dvorak: Jetta. It's had
analysis stinks horrible.
Adam Curry: But that's NPR for
it's it's bricks, obviously.
It's the bricks it's everyone's
putting together little groups,
and we look like the day We
can't even count right? Oh, it's
3 billion. Oh can give a little
extra money. So stupid. I have
only see I have Kirby. I
John C Dvorak: can't even count.
Unknown: We can't even count
right oversee a president by
Yes. Hey,
Adam Curry: hey,
John C Dvorak: hey you want you
know what they should do I have
an idea. Oh, what do you want to
straighten things out? Don't
worry about it out at the
Pentagon. Yeah. How did you
know?
Adam Curry: Yeah, I don't know.
It's just one of those things
we've been talking about for 15
years.
Unknown: Overseas, President
Biden is at the g7 summit in
Japan. World leaders today
agreed to a new round of
sanctions against Russia. Oh
CBSs Elizabeth Palmer reports.
Your cranes Volodymyr Zelensky,
will join the meetings when he
arrives this weekend.
John C Dvorak: Wow, hold on a
second. What the hell's he got
to do with the price of bread
when it comes to making this
sort of decision, which is an
American decision? Was he gonna
throw his two cents in? He's the
Yeah, he's the token but is he
and his consultant now to our
government.
Adam Curry: I love seeing Rishi
what's a Macron? And then queen,
Ursula. I mean, so they have
their two countries as well. Of
course the UK isn't but the
France is in the EU. So but the
net I mean, don't other
countries. Oh, and the German
guy to the German chancellor was
there. But there's a whole bunch
of other countries they don't
get to go. I guess it's because
they're not g7. But then Ursula,
does your EU count as a g7 or
she also just a consultant
because she's she's not the
leader of any Well, she's the,
you know, the President of the
European Council. And by the
way, she didn't get the memo.
She's wearing a pink like a pink
jacket and everyone else is
black and dark and dark blue,
John C Dvorak: but she should
wearing blue and yellow.
Unknown: Ukrainian president
will be the summit special
guests due to arrive here this
weekend. Zelinsky spent the day
at the Arab summit in Saudi
Arabia looking for support from
some leaders with close ties to
Moscow. He welcomed the
announcement from President
Biden that the US would back to
plan to train Ukrainian pilots
on us made F sixteens. This he
wrote will greatly enhance our
army in the sky.
Adam Curry: It's called an Air
Force douchebag army in the sky.
This he wrote will greatly
Unknown: enhance our army in the
sky. The Ukrainian leader has
been asking for months that the
US provide F 16 to help turn the
tide of war. A US official said
Mr. Biden is now committed to
helping Ukraine get the Jets,
although they may actually be
supplied by European allies.
No, he doesn't need a 60s Now,
originally,
to supply the planes as they
have the capacity to hit targets
deep inside Russia, fighter
planes pose a certain risk of
escalation. How big is it? We
have been mindful of the risk of
escalation since the very
beginning. In fact, we've taken
some criticism for that, because
we want to make sure that that
as we support Ukraine, we aren't
making it worse for the
Ukrainian people by having this
war escalate to be exactly what
Putin wants it to be in claims
it to be a war about the West
versus Russia or NATO versus
Russia.
Adam Curry: I love I love how he
just projects us all out there.
Putin claims that no, that would
be anti war people like us and
you know, other people who just
don't want war. We see what's
going on. No, no
John C Dvorak: that was going
on. That was exactly what Putin
said
Unknown: now is going to take 16
John C Dvorak: is coming from
Holland to train
Unknown: those Ukrainian pilots
at sites in Europe. And we still
don't know which countries
exactly are going to
John C Dvorak: stop. So now this
report is discrepant, because I
was under the impression from
the reports I've been listening
to that they're going to train
the Ukrainian pilots in the
United States. She just said
they're going to train him in
Europe. Oh,
Adam Curry: well, that's not
that could Poland maybe Poland,
Germany. I'm Stein.
John C Dvorak: I have no idea
where now Ramstein
Unknown: Ramstein. Take time to
train those Ukrainian pilots at
sites in Europe and we still
don't know which sites in Europe
countries exactly are going to
supply the aircraft. So it's
safe to say JB that we won't see
them in combat for months to
come.
Adam Curry: JB JB doesn't this
so if the Netherlands
John C Dvorak: that was that was
CBS yeah CBS okay is probably it
they're gonna trim in Europe. 10
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, let's
just let's say the Dutch and
they're 40 F sixteens. to
Ukraine. Doesn't that mean the
Dutch will logically be buying
new stuff. Oh, oh wow. Hey, new
stuff. We can buy new gear.
Here, listen, people in the
Netherlands, we have to do this
for Ukraine. Whatever it takes,
don't worry, we'll tax you and
buy some more
John C Dvorak: the F 16 is at
the end of its lifecycle, I
think and I and I, and the
money, the models I I'm going to
look it up. But the models have
changed substantially since the
first released these so the old
pieces of crap F 16. That's what
they're given them. The ones
that run on coal is the ones
that don't owe the ones that run
coal. That's where the dust is
gonna be the ones that was it,
you know that you have to hand
crank the engine to get
Adam Curry: as far as Okay,
let's see what NBC had to say.
Unknown: NBC News learning is at
Lenski is poised to get a major
victory. The US and allies are
now planning to provide F 16
fighter jet
Adam Curry: though. That's this
is an interesting word usage, as
the Lensky is about to get a
major victory on the
battlefield, Buck moot.
Anything? No, he's going to get
f 16.
John C Dvorak: That's the
victory. When I'm going to
here's his pop quiz, pop quiz,
pop quiz. When was the first
flight of the first F 16?
Adam Curry: I'm going to guess
1984 1974.
John C Dvorak: Oh, Lane is 50
years old.
Adam Curry: Well, that's just
the model. I mean, doesn't mean
that the actual planes are that
old. They still they still crank
them out. Don't they? Don't they
still make them they don't make
them anymore. Willis
John C Dvorak: has a number of
built has been 40 604 built as
of June 2018. I'm not gonna look
I'll look into it. I don't think
so.
Unknown: Let's continue. Our NBC
reports and I NBC News learning
is the Lenski is poised to get a
major victory. The US and allies
are now planning to provide F 16
fighter jets to Ukraine.
According to a senior
administration official. It's
unclear which countries will
provide the Jets. Still it's a
move. The Biden administration
previously opposed same
Adam Curry: reporters CBS by the
exact same words, except they
did slip in the US will be
providing them which is not
true.
Unknown: And Kristen, we have a
bit of breaking news citing key
late word of more explosions,
more air defense measures being
deployed. And even though
President Solinsky had said
those F 16 fighter jets would be
a game changer. It's not going
to happen overnight. Correct.
Tom? That's right. It could take
months to deliver them. The
White House had been concerned
the move would provoke Russia.
There was also the worry about
the cost. How long it would take
Adam Curry: how was that
breaking news? By the way? What
was the breaking news we have
reports of of some Scud
missiles? Oh, no wrong script.
We have some reports of some
breaking news
Unknown: time. That's right. It
could take weeks even months to
deliver them. The White House
had been concerned the move
would provoke Russia. There was
also the worry about the cost,
how long it would take to train
the pilots when Zelinsky comes.
He's expected to praise the move
and likely asked us for even
more aid.
Adam Curry: Oh, wow, this guy
really has a chokehold on us.
He's going to praise us good
boys.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. This
guy's desire to control more
information. F 16. Background
are
Adam Curry: okay. And by the
way, I'm sure we will have our
boots on the ground set up
straight by Thursday show.
John C Dvorak: Because that is
that is actually bullshit, which
is what we're thinking. Yeah. So
the first jet these first
planes, which went into service
and 78 were made by General
Dynamics from 74 to 83, Lockheed
picked them up in 93, and
started making them for a couple
of years. Then Lockheed Martin,
which was the Combine firm
started making them from 95 to
the present. So they're still
being manufactured.
Adam Curry: Wasn't that Not I,
for some reason, and so did
General Dynamics,
John C Dvorak: the old, whatever
old plains there are, the ones
are going to the Ukraine.
Adam Curry: There was Prince
Bernard of the Netherlands. And
this was I think, in the 70s
probably was involved in
something known as the Lockheed
scandal. When the prince of the
Netherlands received a 1
million, which was a lot of
money back there, back then a $1
million bribe. What was it for,
again, reasonable bribe at the
time? Yeah. I was in 1970s,
negotiating the sale of
aircraft. It was the Netherlands
was Germany, Italy, Japan, which
nearly led to Lockheed downfall.
Anyway, for some reason that
just came to mind. Let's listen
to the movie The day the final
report from ABC.
Unknown: Today a senior
administration official tells
ABC News that President Biden
has informed that g7 allies
Adam Curry: What's this? This
Yankee Doodle pipe in the
background? Listen to it. It's
like some kind of patriotic Fife
and Drum thing happening. No
idea.
Unknown: Yes senior
Administration official tells
ABC News that President Biden
has informed the g7 allies here
that the United States has
agreed to allow Ukrainian pilots
to begin training to fly
American made F 16 fighter jets.
This move represents a major
reversal for Biden and a wish
fulfilled for Ukrainian
president.
First of all, I'm sorry.
John C Dvorak: That's bullcrap.
A major reversal is just get
game growing into it. We know
this was going to happen.
Adam Curry: Well, I think they
have some clips of Biden saying
and never
Unknown: represents a major
reversal and a wish fulfilled
for Ukrainian president who has
pleaded for F six teams for
months.
We have artillery. Yes. Thank
you. We have it. Is it enough?
Honestly, not really.
John C Dvorak: No, never
Adam Curry: listen to the guy.
You stepped on it.
John C Dvorak: This guy
Adam Curry: playing crowd laughs
It's a laugh line when he says
this. This this group, this must
be a bunch of arms dealers.
Unknown: Yes. Thank you. We have
it. Is it enough? Honestly, not
really.
Adam Curry: The what is that? Is
this a laughing matter
John C Dvorak: is pushed to you
should have boosted it.
Adam Curry: I'm just noticing
this message is this. These
people are horrible. So we're
supposed to be supposed to
believe this is some existential
war, existential war for Europe
and the West and the West in
general. And he says, Well, you
know, thank Thank you. Thanks
for that. Thanks for the tanks
and whatever else, you old
stuff.
John C Dvorak: billions of
billions, billions and billions
of dollars a gear. It wasn't
Adam Curry: enough wasn't
enough. Not really. Ma Yeah. You
know why they're laughing thing?
Yeah. Because billions more it's
going to flow.
Unknown: We have artillery? Yes.
Yes. Thank you. We haven't, he's
written off. Honestly, not
really.
The F 16. The backbone of the US
Air Fleet can travel twice the
speed of sound drop bombs on
ground targets and fire air to
air missiles. Ukraine believes
these planes provide a distinct
advantage in the skies, enabling
them to shoot down incoming
cruise missiles and fighter jets
fending off rushes punishing
aerosol.
Adam Curry: Wait a minute, I
thought our patriots were doing
all that. The Patriot instinct.
Yeah, that's already so
successful.
John C Dvorak: But up till now.
Wait, how is the f6 is nice. Now
we can get some some boots on
the ground for when I say the
next thing. That was the F 16 a
50 year old plane, the backbone
of our Air Force. That the F 22
I want even though there's not
that many of them are the F 18.
I mean, there's a lot we have a
lot of gear.
Adam Curry: I'm just gonna say
when you say that a 50 year old
plane. The planes are not built
my
John C Dvorak: understanding if
they're built to last but not
but numbers are still flying B
50 twos. Let's go. Yeah, I get
that. What
Adam Curry: I'm saying is they
still build them in 2018. Yeah.
John C Dvorak: And they're
building newer versions. Yeah.
Yeah. But they're not going to
get the new version. I can
assure you they're gonna get the
50 year old ones.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's like like
you and your Lexus.
John C Dvorak: Car exhibit. It's
not 50 years old, but
Adam Curry: it's getting there.
How old is your Lexus? 30 years
old. It's gotta be 30 years old.
I
John C Dvorak: have two Lexus's.
One of them is about 30 years
old. The other one is 2005. You
can do the math. But up till
Unknown: now providing F 16 has
been a red line for President
Biden reluctant to provoke an
unpredictable escalation from
Adam Curry: Russia. Oh, but
let's do it. Now. Still,
Unknown: in a February interview
with David Biden did leave the
door open just a crack.
We know President Solinsky
continues to say what he really
needs are f6 teams. Will you
send up six teams?
We're sending him What love our
season military thinks you need
to know our seasoned
Adam Curry: military or seasoned
military. What? I don't
understand this terms. This is
this is all just what it's a big
joke to these people. They're
all laughing their ass off
because they're gonna make
hundreds of billions of dollars
are f6 teams. Will you send up
60s
Unknown: sending him what our
seasoned military thinks you
need to know. You don't think he
needs F 16. Now he doesn't need
f 60s now.
Is that a never?
First of all, the idea that we
know exactly what's going to be
needed a year two three manava.
There is no basis upon which
John C Dvorak: a year or two or
three.
Unknown: We know exactly what's
going to be needed a year to
three now but there is no basis
upon which there is a rationale
according our military now to
provide F 60s But you're not
ruling it out. I am wrong enough
for now. For now,
but no longer the administration
now says they hope Ukrainian
pilots can begin training in the
coming weeks. As for who will
actually provide the Jets
tonight, that remains an open
question. And administration
officials saying our coalition
of countries participating in
this effort will decide when to
actually provide the Jets, how
many we will provide, and who
will provide them. Maybe they
Adam Curry: were just waiting to
train African jet fighter
pilots. That's where everything
else seems to end up. Maybe this
is not about Ukraine at all.
Maybe they want to send these
things down to Africa.
John C Dvorak: Well, when he
says to you a year or two or
three that we mistaken, well,
they're gonna realize this place
like nothing we've seen in
Europe. Ah, this is a
rehabilitation program.
Adam Curry: That's what sounds
like. I don't think we're being
told the full story. You don't
know. Me? Well, there's
John C Dvorak: another pop quiz.
Okay, pop quiz. Pop quiz was the
nickname for the F 16
Adam Curry: The jalopy? No, did
I get it wrong?
John C Dvorak: What fighting
Falken Oh, yeah, I
Adam Curry: guess I didn't know
that the fightings Well, anyway,
we got the F 35. And maybe maybe
we're just waiting for
John C Dvorak: what happened
after it. Why don't we give them
the F 35. Isn't that supposed to
be the plane to we're supposed
to sell overseas all these
suckers? Yeah, but no
Adam Curry: one's gonna pay for
it. This is the whole point The
Dutch are going to going to they
were going to get rid of them
anyway. They were clearly going
to sell them. So now the Dutch
give him to or sell them? I
don't know. They won't be
selling. There'll be it'll be
because they're gonna go to
Ukraine and the Dutch have to
buy some new stuff. And those
will be 30 fives I would presume
or 20 twos? Maybe? I don't know.
John C Dvorak: No, we don't sell
it. 22 We don't sell that one.
Adam Curry: I don't think so.
Well, it's for sale somewhere.
Yeah. To us. All right.
Meanwhile, according to Politico
and their political they are on
the inside of the beltway. Joe
Biden is reportedly considering
freezing the conflict in Ukraine
for the foreseeable future
instead of pushing for the
country's victory this this
really falls right squarely into
your theory that the Biden
administration wants to have a
way to be you know never change
a winning team in a war and keep
getting boots on the ground and
keep everything going so that he
doesn't get voted out for Big
Mike
John C Dvorak: Yeah as Easter
he's going to need knows the
playbook the political election
playbook
Adam Curry: you know it to me it
feels like the just keep this is
all to keep Biden kind of in
play for the next year because
we still have a year to go
before we even really get into
any kind of election. Noise
action action Yeah, the noises
now but in any election action.
So this this this could be the
only reason why he's not being
run out of town. Yeah, this
whole thing is I'm telling you
with and we never hear about
Russian troop movements only
about vogner group the magical
Wagner Wagner Wagner group.
John C Dvorak: We never hear
about Russian troop No,
Adam Curry: no, you don't hear
about that. Not only Wagner in
the
John C Dvorak: war is it just
some remote control thing? It's
brand Wagner cruise missile over
every so often. It's a brand
brand Massive Attack going on
here.
Adam Curry: I love how people
push back like vogner group is
real No, no something happened
some things happened around the
world in Africa that was real
but the just a sticker that just
put a sticker on it. Wagner
Wagner was here doesn't
John C Dvorak: have a load
drawing like Kilroy. World War
Two.
Adam Curry: Yes. It just
John C Dvorak: they should have
an assigned tagger. Let's be
modern. Yes. spray can and tag
everything. Wagner Wagner was
Adam Curry: here a new one.
Because it all I'm for all we
know, it's our It's us. It's the
CIA or whatever we use.
John C Dvorak: Actually, it
could be thought of that one.
Adam Curry: Related to this is
the strengthening ties between
Russia and by the way. I think
what we're saying is this is all
theater. And all of this is
meant to spin people up and get
you all all jacked and equality
from Democrats. Yes. And you
know, and and even the g7 being
held in Hiroshima is all just
all nuclear war. We're on the
brink of nuclear war. They said
it over and over and over again
in the back of your mind. Yeah,
it's all all set up to spin you
up. And to get you to want to
keep Joe in and oh, goodness was
not anywhere else was certainly
not true. Ron Paul, it would be
horrible. He's lying. He's
horrible change
John C Dvorak: horses in
midstream.
Unknown: Tonight squeezed by
Western sanctions. Russia is
relying on its neighbor
literally next door. We are on
the Chinese border and that's
Russia. Shag just across the
half frozen river. Here. The two
countries are so close. Russia
is just a few 100 yards away. 20
Adam Curry: right there. Oh my
god.
John C Dvorak: We're Sarah Palin
when we need her.
Unknown: I love like, Oh my God.
It's just right over
here. The two countries are so
close. Russia is just a few 100
yards away. Along the 2600 mile
border signs of deep China
Russia ties are everywhere. on
streets and buildings. It stores
stocked with Russian goods.
Where vendors greet foreigners
in Russian there's even a
Russian style bar.
Adam Curry: Has anyone who's
watched this report ever been on
a trip anywhere? Do they know
anything about the world? I
guess not
John C Dvorak: right? Oh, wow.
You're right. It's the stupidest
report. I can go to a grocery
store in San Francisco and get
greeted in Russian or Chinese
for that matter. It's both
Chinese for sure.
Unknown: Where vendors greet
foreigners in Russian there's
even a Russians know are
Adam Curry: a Russian style but
what is a Russian style by a an
AR style ar 15 style weapon what
is a Russian style bar?
John C Dvorak: Is this is a good
question. What should it be like
to like the linen bar in at the
Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas?
Adam Curry: With hot chicks with
with furry hat and lots of vodka
and they say comrade a lot. Oh,
Unknown: we're owner Tong Lu
says Chinese people can mingle
with Russians
Adam Curry: mingle. It's almost
like that that bar in mingle?
Yeah. Is it Star Trek the bar we
can mingle with. With our Wars
Star Wars. The three eyed
people.
Unknown: China's President Xi
Jinping declared a No Limits
partnership with Russia. From
that diplomatic boosts for
President Putin with a recent
state visit to a critical
economic trade between China and
Russia surging by 30% in the
last year.
Adam Curry: This is I love the
Breathless horse report NBC and
there's a part two
John C Dvorak: is Janet. My God
had they been out of town is
Janice
Adam Curry: Mackay Freya who is
reporting for us rather let's
take a look at Janice Mackay
Freya for a second see. Janice
what is her deal? Mackay
freight? She got the she got the
gig though. She got to go. So
that's kind of cool. Traveling.
It's a great traveling gig
hanging out in Russian bars. She
is better. She's Scandinavian.
Check it out. Oh, correspondent
for NBC News based in Beijing.
Give her a name again after look
it up. Janice Mackay Freya
previously worked at CTV as Asia
bureau chief. She was the
network's Middle East Bureau
Chief in Jerusalem. She's got
some good gigs.
John C Dvorak: She studied she
was a CTV that's CTV Canada.
Yeah,
Adam Curry: Canada. Her she she
studied international relations
and French at the University of
Toronto. I'm not sure if she
spooky she might see slippery
sea but
John C Dvorak: she's spooky
little switches if she's been in
Beijing and then in case you've
been all over so it's that kind
of assigned. Oh, she
Adam Curry: Oh, you need to look
at her at her picture. She's got
that. That that does I'm just
talking as a as a producer
producer. She has kind of that
war worried face. You know what
I mean? Like, how can I explain
it?
John C Dvorak: I'm gonna look at
it a bit. It looks spooky.
Adam Curry: very stern. very
stern and wrinkled. Yeah, it's
like
John C Dvorak: stern and
wrinkled. There you go. That's
the description she's gonna love
here. Let's go to
Unknown: part two. And this is
where a huge pipeline delivers
Russian gas to China. Energy
that used to flow to Europe, all
of it keeping Russia's economy
afloat. funding the war in
Ukraine. Haha damn training with
goods will come and go from
Russia across this bridge that
was built and paid for by China.
Russian truck drivers told us
they're crossing to China every
day. Give them as you were good
friends he says of China. Steel
relations during wartime are a
sensitive topic here. We were
tracked by Chinese authorities.
US officials including the US
ambassador here tell NBC News
there is no evidence so far. The
support for Russia includes
weapons.
Adam Curry: John C. Dvorak
School of Journalism ladies Live
It is no evidence Russia
Unknown: needing allies like
never before want to hear that
one again. But are here tell NBC
News there is no evidence so far
that shows for Russia includes
weapons an
Adam Curry: extra twist on the
no evidence. No evidence so far.
This is a good Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that's actually
advanced, advanced,
Unknown: Russia needing allies
like never before. And finding
one close at hand. Janice Mackay
for NBC News. Hey, hook, China,
hey, hey, ha.
Adam Curry: Jackie, you need to
go to Hey, ha, ha, ha, ha. This
is all just so pathetic. Do they
not understand that no agenda
show sees right through them
that we understand what they're
doing here. They're just trying
to make everybody crazy. Man,
for most people. You know, I see
that. Of course. I'd like to
remind everybody, as more and
more normal people join the no
agenda show they join no agenda
nation. And some people are new.
And it is important to
understand that John, I pretty
much never speak during the
week. I mean, the extent of it
might be Hey, look at this great
story about AI and then you'll
like say something horrible and
I'll regret sending is a story.
That's
John C Dvorak: and I loaded that
product.
Adam Curry: Oh, you did? You'd
love I sent John a a, an article
about using chat chat GPT type
AI on your computer and you
loaded the product.
John C Dvorak: So I loaded the
product. And then I tried to run
it and it says hey, no, you got
to load I have to load some sort
of some back repo. I have to
load the bases the data.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yes. You have
to download the six gigabytes of
data of course.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Okay, so I
so I tried doing that it says
incompatible hardware. And I
said what, wait a minute, but it
has a bunch of choices. There's
like various models, I had to
load load the models. That's
what it is. Had to load them as
I showed them. We tried the
other model incompatible
hardware, using a machine
running Windows 11. If you can't
run something on Windows 11,
which is picky about the
hardware compatibility is
bullcrap product, okay.
Adam Curry: All right. Thank you
for this report. So far so far,
AI is failing on the no agenda
show the running in at home. All
right. Can't stop laughing.
That's great. Hold on a second.
What Meanwhile, over in the UK,
Unknown: BT British Telecom are
going to be cutting 55,000 jobs,
but crucially 10,000 of them are
supposedly be going to AI. You
can see the front of the Daily
Mail that they asked the
question Is this the start of
the great AI jobs bloodbath, The
Guardian here as well btw to
replace stuff with AI, and also
the Financial Times they call
it. They call it the most
radical cuts since privatization
since British Telecom was
privatized. So Bter to slash up
to 42% of the workforce by the
end of the decade by 2030. It
comes just a couple of days
after Vodafone revealed that
they will be cutting 11,000 jobs
themselves. The decision, of
course comes to cut costs, but
also chief executive Philip
Johnson says that AI tools such
as chat to GPT, they're ready.
They've shown enough progress to
show that they can replace
humans, especially in customer
service over the next six or
seven years. It comes on the
same day. If we look at the
times, the same day that Rishi
Sunak spoke and said that rules
need to be in place to curb AI
and that Yeah, look, I might be
a great thing. But we need to be
wary of its progress despite it
being transformative technology.
If we look at AI news here, they
expand on that UK wants new
rules, new rules are needed to
tame AI new rules that global
regulations needed the pm made
the comments during a flight to
Japan where the g7 is, of course
taking place in Hiroshima. So
let's
Adam Curry: analyze this just
for a second. And by the way,
it's too bad. I knew the former
British Telecom CEO Gavin
Patterson, because when when we
had pod show, we had Pato
London. And he was he was kind
of he was up in the in
management of BT, but he
eventually when the Dutch guy
left who was a real dick, when
that guy left then Patterson
became CEO, I still have his
number. I'm going to ask him
what if he knows what's going
on? But he left in 2018 or 2019.
But what I hear is that okay, so
55,000 jobs that just sounds
like me. No, we just got to cut
back because we're bloated and
you know, there's no more free
money hobbyists, that's what
everyone's doing in technology,
but of those 10,000 is customer
service. This I Believe, I
completely believe that chat GPT
can do function just as poorly
as humans in b2b customer
service. I think that's perfect.
And I'm sure that's what they're
doing. I'm sure that customer
service representatives
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's gonna
suck as usual. Don't have to pay
anybody.
Adam Curry: It won't suck any
any more. It'll just Yeah, it'll
suck cheaper paths suck
John C Dvorak: cheap. Yeah, no
suck cheaper. There's a show
title suck cheaper.
Adam Curry: We're loaded with
show titles today. Yeah. And
that makes total sense. By the
way. Five seventy.ai 570 dot AI,
A J. Donnelly, one of our
producers, he's loaded up and no
agenda show stuff in there. You
can literally ask things like,
what are all the give me the red
bullets. It's all
570 157 zero.ai. And you can you
can go in there. And you can
say, give me all the Red Book
predictions or what episode? I
mean, it has a lot. Okay,
John C Dvorak: I'm going to try
it. Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned
something about the bad the bad
Dutch CEO. Yeah. So we got a
note from someone. I'm not going
to bless the guy. But he says
that somewhere along the line,
and I didn't think I didn't
think it was serious. But then I
thought about it. I said, you
know, I think this might be
true. Okay, you, you knuckled by
Munder
Adam Curry: a knuckle under to
pressure
John C Dvorak: from a couple of
Dutch producers who said we're
offended by Adams. Dutch voice.
No. Bullshit. I said, Yeah.
Dutch voice is a work of art.
This is anybody be offended by
this.
Adam Curry: This is completely
bullshit. I don't believe this.
Who said this? Give me Give me
his name. I've already said I
wouldn't. I will call it but you
have to do anything. You must.
You must you must repent. No, I
don't think so. Why, what why
the old I did. Here's what I
did. There was a Dutch producer
Hendrick. And he said, when you
do a German voice whenever
German comes up, and you do a
Nazi Schultes voice. Yeah, he
says that is actually
traumatizing to many Germans.
They've been trying to get away
from that for decades. And so
mommy says, Oh, good. Just
follow us.
John C Dvorak: That's like a
suit. Yes. I have to assume so.
Adam Curry: Yeah. So I stopped
doing that. But that's why
because that's your
John C Dvorak: number of
listeners. Let's go on the
statistical aspect of this. The
number of German listeners we
have that would be offended by
that. I want to hear from them.
John, you have like five.org
Yeah, Josh says me John
tavares.org. We have about five
serious producers that have been
sir ignited producers that are
from Germany that have helped us
over the years, including our
friend and moon rose. I want to
hear that they're offended by
you doing that crazy German
voice.
Adam Curry: I didn't say I
didn't say offended. I said it's
triggering. Oh, traumatizing,
okay. dramatizing triggering,
triggering, triggering. Okay,
well
John C Dvorak: nine traumatizing
999 traumatizing to me and
triggering is pretty much the
same thing. It's just a new
version of the old word.
Adam Curry: Well, well you know
what if they say it's absolutely
not true? Well, then we go down
we're gonna go straight back
doing it obviously. Obviously
Wait, here's my favorite one
remember some good times people
anyway, don't know it all days
of the show. I did not buckle
but you know what? We don't
receive it. There's no here's
what the here's the problem. The
Dutch aren't donating there's no
notes to read. That's the
problem. They come in, you know,
under under Associate Executive
producer level until the only
sometimes.
John C Dvorak: Well they're
having nothing but fun with
these parties that they're
throwing. I know on behalf of no
agenda. They are having a really
stoned over there. Like Yeah,
Dad day, you know, even if the
show folds, does. Party we got
parties. We got our own mailing
list which by the way I advise I
know that union local lump
number one in Michigan has a
pretty large mailing list of
people that's a hot list so
heartless and so they can just
mail to each other and and let's
get this Friday where we're
going to do it. Yeah.
Adam Curry: Awesome. Let's do
some climate change. Please. I
need some climate change in my
life because this I have a
story's horrible. The stories
are only just regional
headlines. Netherlands while in
the Netherlands, it has leaked
out that the Netherlands is
going to have new requirements
only two cows per field. So you
have a whole field which let me
see this size of this field zero
point 35 hectares. What is that
in acres?
John C Dvorak: It's a budget
double it up, it's about seven
about three quarters of an acre.
It's not very big,
Adam Curry: but only two cows.
John C Dvorak: That's going to
kowski clear that area.
Adam Curry: It by the way, it's
not it's 0.8 acres. So it's
great to be able to have more
than two cows on the acre.
John C Dvorak: I don't know how
many cows could read let's here
we go knowledge know, how many
how many acres? Is it needed to
sustain one? How many cows let's
go let's go how many cows can be
since this grade. They don't do
this on network TV at all. Oh,
many cows. How
Adam Curry: many cows per acre
is acceptable? How about that?
Okay, that okay. Well, this is
interesting. According to chat,
GPT, one to two cows per acre is
acceptable.
John C Dvorak: I got right here.
The general rule of thumb is one
to one one cow per acre.
Adam Curry: So so this is
another spin up bull crap thing
they're doing to us. We're
thinking because we're not
farmers. We're thinking this is
an outrage. But it's really not.
You're
John C Dvorak: cramping and this
cramped. It's too many.
Adam Curry: The official no
agenda position now is that
there's too many cows per field.
John C Dvorak: A cow calf pair
will typically require closer to
two acres and well, the cow and
a calf.
Adam Curry: I'm telling you,
we're being spun up. I should
probably mention the story about
the homeless veterans being
displaced by migrants in New
York was an elaborate hoax. I'll
bet it was but we believed it we
bought it very well.
John C Dvorak: That's because
it's believable. That's the
problem with a good hoax.
Adam Curry: And yeah, it was now
who did this? It's unclear who
did this hoax. But to learn
about the
John C Dvorak: cows about the
homeless
Adam Curry: No, the cows the
cows is not hooking to the cows
is a reverse hoax. Is that
gender jamman Too many cows it's
still a hoax. bullcrap. We're
outraged by the wrong thing.
That's what's so funny. Is that
we should just fold man we
should fold we're getting duped
everywhere left and right
John C Dvorak: well that stinks
because the duping is getting
better and is getting better
thank you internet
Adam Curry: all right let's
let's go to claim you
John C Dvorak: duping to
occasionally Miss whether you
want to talk about climate
change. I
Adam Curry: got a horrible five
parter. Nice. I'm ready. I'm
ready. And
John C Dvorak: this is going to
discuss turns the table on
everything this brings in a new
idea. Oh. And it's based on
nothing but bull crap.
Adam Curry: Nice. Okay, and mind
you this comes on the heels of
the U N? Was it the world the
world world opera world media
rollout. One more time I'll stop
the World Meteorological opera
operation. The climate justice
John C Dvorak: and reparation
part one now
Unknown: to northern California
and the threat one community of
color faces because of rising
sea levels. KQED climate
reporter as David Romero takes
us to West Oakland in the San
Francisco Bay area. Those rising
sea levels make residents
they're vulnerable to flooding
and to toxins that have long
polluted surrounding areas and
residency protecting them from
that threat, or what's known as
climate justice is a form of
reparations.
Adam Curry: All of us
Stopstopstop so first of all,
what is now the makeup of oak it
was when I hear Oakland here in
Texas, I think that's poor
blacks.
John C Dvorak: Couple of things.
They're talking about West
Oakland. I'm very familiar with
West Oakland. I've worked in
West Oakland. There's a big BART
station in West Oakland, which
they don't they will never say
as Bart they're talking about as
some sort of transit thing
trying to screw the poor black
community. The West Oakland is
mostly black. I don't know what
they mostly poor black. I think
that's East Oakland. But it's
mostly black living in old
Victorians, which are quite
lovely. By the way. Alumni even
though they're rundown and this
place is ripe for gentrification
in other word. That's
Adam Curry: my question. Is any
part of Oakland gentrified?
John C Dvorak: Yeah, Old Town.
Unknown: Okay.
John C Dvorak: But Oakland is
resisted pretty well, because
it's really not much you can do.
But this report this I can walk
from this house to what they're
talking about. Almost. So you
might take me all day, but I
Adam Curry: could get there. You
could be good. Are you in line
for some reparations?
John C Dvorak: It's about, I'd
say 10 miles from here. Oh, no,
Adam Curry: that's outside of
the reparations zone.
John C Dvorak: So this, this
story starts off talking about
rising sea levels is bullcrap.
You said it again.
Adam Curry: You said you were
going to fold it. One more time
again. Oh, man,
John C Dvorak: but I can't help
it because this report is from
top to bottom, a lie. And the
rising sea levels in what?
There's water rising sea levels
in West Oakland. This is the
craziest story I've ever heard,
while Oakland is it is more or
less inland. There's no real
docks there or anything. I mean,
there's part of you could almost
say that the where the where the
cargo containers come in. You
could call that West Oakland,
but it's not. It's the inner
channel. But no, this is bull,
and they're just okay. I get
worked up just listening to this
nonsense. Play on which is the
point of
Unknown: it. 1000s of people
live in West Oakland, a bridge
away from San Francisco, boxed
in by freeways a port in
numerous industries. Margaret
Gordon shows me around the
northern edge of the
neighborhood. So where were you
gonna go? Okay, we
will go over the overpass,
we pass charcoal gray and white
condominiums about a half mile
from San Francisco Bay. As he's
continued to rise, Gordon, who
founded the West Oakland
environmental indicators project
foresees a looming disaster,
we'll be the first victims of a
sea level rise.
And not only from surface
flooding between these homes and
the bay, our hazardous sites
like old army base contaminated
with petroleum and other
chemicals. That contamination
can move around as water on the
ground rises,
those toxic soils will be a
hindrance to the community.
They're going to be surprises
and they're going to be real
health risks.
Adam Curry: Well, you say this,
but what about the storms of
1962?
John C Dvorak: Oh 9062 There may
have been a flood Yeah, there
was now on flood the abandoned
arm Oakland Army bases there.
Yes. It's an army bases. Not
it's not like I will say there
are. And by the way, I was very
aware of all the toxic crap that
was getting into the air because
I was working for the air
pollution district for nearly a
decade. Yes. And that areas, one
of the areas that I worked in,
there's nothing that what
they're talking about is
bullcrap. There's nothing going
on out of that army base. If it
was if you talked about the
Naval Air Station over in
Alameda having toxic spills.
Yes. tons. The Navy's always
made a mess wherever they've
been. And they just leave stuff
and then they they waltz out of
their Hunter's Point. Same
thing. Problem. Yes. East Oka
West Oakland, no. West Oakland
no and this idea that it was the
blacks have been forced to move
there. That's nonsense to there
was always a mixed ethnic area.
For from the get go. And you can
look at good people should read
the wiki page for West Oakland,
California and just read the
pages got a good history there.
There's none of this. There's no
sea level threat. Anyway onward.
Unknown: Christina Hill directs
the Institute for Urban and
Regional Development at UC
Berkeley, rising inland on top
of the land and underneath it,
the sea water actually comes
under the land almost like it's
sticking its toe under the
freshwater
that sea water washed up where
it can mix with contamination.
Oh, no pollution loosens. It can
release poisonous gases in and
around sewer and water pipes.
The gas can enter buildings,
workplaces, schools and homes.
Oh, I think we need to rebuild
two cracks in the concrete slab
foundation gentrify across
West Oakland, there are more
than 130 active toxic sites.
West Oakland grew up as an
industrial powerhouse. So
Adam Curry: I'm going to call it
right now. I'm going to call it
right now what's going on here?
And I think you'll get a lot
more of the stories about that
area. This is to run everybody
out of town, tear it all down
and completely build a house.
cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap. The
Reparatur land
John C Dvorak: this is the AC
approach to life. This
Adam Curry: is JC actually
Serrana Miss of Dogpatch he sent
me a great documentary about
Chicago and Southside. It's
called the area. And this is
exactly what it is. Except it's
different in mo faxes onto this.
Yeah, in some cases they say,
oh, it's migrants are coming in,
in other cases that just let all
the drugs go rampant. And then
when the areas completely bombed
out, exactly, or we doing a
Black Lives Matter demonstration
burned down Minneapolis. And
then so now it's climate change.
That's what's called mom. Oh,
poisonous gas is gonna kill
everybody. We're gonna give you
some reparations for leaving,
leaving. That's what's going on
here.
Unknown: West Oakland grew up as
an industrial powerhouse some
150 years ago when the
Transcontinental Railroad ended
its long journey here. Over
time, shipbuilding, metal
foundries, auto yards, and dry
cleaners filled this corner of
Oakland dry clean, racist home
running policies like red.
Adam Curry: S very odd. Is that
a racial thing? It's like
Chinese what I'm saying Why Why
throw into dry cleaners? I don't
understand early
John C Dvorak: dry cleaners
until I don't know, the 50s or
60s that used to use a lot of
carbon floor chemicals instead
of a dump in the backyard, I
guess I don't know, overtime
evaporated by now. But that's
beside the point,
Unknown: shipbuilding, metal
foundries, auto yards and dry
cleaners filled this corner of
Oakland. It's a clue John, it's
a clue. Racist home lending
policies like redlining
relegated black people to this
neighborhood.
Adam Curry: Ah, they got
screwed. Oh, I get it. We're
going to give you some
reparations so you can leave
that toxic infested area from
the knife to stay there? Yep.
It's coming through the cracks
in the foundation. That's right.
This is great. What a fabulous
report. Can I go to the next
clip? I'm loving this. I'm
loving it.
Unknown: It is a lesson in
discrimination and disregard and
diminishment of a population
that is helping build the city.
Dorothy Lazar grew up in West
Oakland she retired two years
ago as the managing librarian of
the Oakland History Center.
Lazard said the policy of
eminent domain decimated black
neighborhoods and business
districts, allowing governments
to seize land and destroy now
when
Adam Curry: they say decimated,
do you think just 10% what the
word really means?
John C Dvorak: They mean nine.
We're the only ones that do
that. Because
Unknown: ARD said the policy of
eminent domain decimated black
neighborhoods and abysmal crap.
Allowing governments to seize
land and destroy homes to build
freeways and a commuter train
line.
Blaming the imminent warning is
to me kind of commensurate to
colonialism, you know, like
working this as our dumping
ground. Because we've already
devalue this space.
Lazard says racist policies
John C Dvorak: was residents.
They put a BART station, which
is the convenient Bay Area Rapid
Transit. The BART station in the
middle of West Oakland is called
the West Oakland BART station.
And it which is the most
convenient way for anyone in
that area to get to San
Francisco or, or downtown
Oakland or beyond. It's kind of
a favor to the community, and
now they're complaining.
Adam Curry: This is a great
report.
Unknown: You know, it's kind of
like we can use this as our
dumping ground because we've
already devalue this space.
Lazard says racist policies
exposed residents to life
threatening environmental
pollution without their consent.
Those impulses are still there.
What's this?
Adam Curry: Oh, those him wow.
Oh, I gotta hear that again. So
I just hear this again, this was
fantastic value.
Unknown: This space, Lazard says
racist policies exposed
residents to life threatening
environmental pollution without
their consent.
Adam Curry: Okay, so there was a
bunch of racists who didn't ask
for their consent. I mean, what
kind of report there's racist
and they were racist in the head
of black people and they didn't
ask for their consent to be
racist.
Unknown: Lazard says racist
policies exposed residents to
life threatening environmental
pollution without their consent
those impulses are still there
Adam Curry: those inputs
John C Dvorak: they put them
into an era that was
contaminated which is not
without telling them
Adam Curry: but those impulses
are still there means the racist
was there the racial the black,
man that's That's right. That's
all you that's all you do, you
racist Californians. Wow. I
can't believe you're doing that.
Do they pin the pin the tail on
this donkey who did this?
John C Dvorak: Well, no, they
don't go that way. They go the
other way. We Just as they are
when the last clip Yeah, they go
the other way and this was this
is the eye roller clip of the
group
Unknown: Margaret Gordon sits on
a park bench in front of her
apartment as semi trucks crawl
the street and a commuter train
zips by. She tells me climate
justice must mean reparations.
The reparation movement is a
next level of civil rights.
For Gordon reparations mean more
than payment to the descendants
of slaves. They mean actions
that restore consent to the
community like cleaning up toxic
sites, economic opportunities
and power and planning decisions
about climate resilience.
We will have long standing
sustainability, I will know that
that's going to be housing for
my my children, grandchildren,
so it'll be a job for them.
Climate change and reparations
in terms of a response to the
history of racial injustice have
the same roots
eludes me. Taiwo is an associate
professor at Georgetown
University. He's the author of
the book reconsidering
reparations with a chapter on
climate reparations.
Even if you didn't buy the
historical story about why
reparations and climate crisis
there is a straightforward
practical story of if you want
to actually change who faces
what level of depth disease and
displacement, this is something
that you should pay attention
to.
He says climate justice and
reparations are the same
project.
Adam Curry: Oh, in you know, I'm
going to agree with this report
because I feel that the black
family Obama they need to be
compensated because they were
forced to buy a mansion right on
the shore of Nantucket there and
and they were forced to do that
it's totally racist. They need
reparations so that they can
move away from their
John C Dvorak: token you believe
they're trying to make this
association now with climate
change. Climate Justice, justice
and reparations all the same
comes from the same roots. Of
course, are they trying to do
here besides steel this property
like you mentioned earlier?
Yeah, that's it this is this is
now completely nuts.
Adam Curry: I gotta, I gotta
hand I should probably go back
and listen to some of these
organizations who are doing this
and look at them and see who
they are. Because clearly,
there's people who really
believe in this I mean, that
people people have been
influenced and and SIOP from all
directions. And so of course,
they truly believe that it's
racist. That people who are in
these organizations trying to
helmet changes racist climate
change by itself is racist,
because it was industrial. white
nationalists and colonialist who
did this
John C Dvorak: white
supremacists.
Adam Curry: Oh man, I got a
great clip from Elon on that and
I want to play this Alright,
here it is. This is still from
that never I couldn't find a
full interview with Elon the
full thing. It's all chopped up
in little bits. Thanks, CNBC.
John C Dvorak: No, I need that
so I can do my normal edit.
Adam Curry: So here he is. And
what's he's very slick what he's
doing here because he's, he's,
it's almost like he is the when
you blow your nose, it's like
it's like a clown honk
sometimes, like a comedian.
John C Dvorak: Like why is
always saying how can you make
all that noise? You're like
Adam Curry: a bird flu infested
Canadian goose is flying or just
infesting us all.
John C Dvorak: Canadian goes
bird flu. Yeah.
Adam Curry: So what he does
here, it's what do we have a
dangle off? He's a dangle up.
He's dangle opping. Because what
he's doing here is he's saying,
Look at me, I speak the truth.
I'm not afraid to speak the
truth. But at the same time, he
justifies the entire existence
of white nationalism. Listen to
this. But I mean, when you when
you when you
Unknown: link to somebody who's
talking about the guy who killed
children in a mall, and now in
Texas, you say something like it
might be a bad sign up. I'm not
quite sure what you meant, but
in that particular case, there
was a somehow that's not not
that the jury killed, but the it
was, I think, incorrectly
ascribed to be a white
supremacist
Adam Curry: action. I'm sorry,
it's even worse. It's white
supremacists negates white
supremacists, that is that he's
going to justify who killed but
Unknown: the it was, I think
incorrectly ascribed via white
supremacist action. And the
evidence for that was some
obscure Russian website that
nobody's ever heard of that had
no followers. And the company
that found this is belling cat
right, adored Bella cat does
psyops
right. I couldn't
Adam Curry: really even follow
exactly what it was you were
trying to express there are you
stupid CNBC guy? Are you truly
that stupid? So that's
Unknown: why I was curious, but
I'm saying I thought this the
ascribing it to white supremacy
was bullshit. Okay. And and that
the information for that came
from an obscure Russian website
and was somehow magically found
by Bellingcat, which is a
company that does Psyops
and there's no proof by the way
that he was not.
There's no, I wouldn't say that
there's no proof that he is. And
that's a debate you want to get
into on Twitter.
Yes. Because we should not be
ascribing things to white
supremacy, if they're if it's
false. Okay.
Adam Curry: So, at first, I kind
of thought, yeah, like, go Elon,
yeah, throwing Bellingcat under
the bus. Yeah, I totally agree
with that. But then I realized
what he's doing. He is he's,
he's, in essence, saying white
supremacy is real. White
supremacy is alive in America.
And you can put that that brown
man into white supremacy. It's
really it's a dangle up. It's
truly subversive. It's very
John C Dvorak: interesting, very
come up with that thesis.
Adam Curry: Very evil, very
evil, but what Elon Musk is
doing here. The white
John C Dvorak: supremacy, though
that he knows he's doing Oh,
yes, that's
Adam Curry: all he does. That's
that's his whole that's his
whole raison d'etre. I think I
think that's that is what this
guy does. In this case. That's
his whole Twitter thing.
John C Dvorak: Well, you know,
he is from South Africa. There,
you haven't been there but you
know, the Dutch that are there.
Yes. Yeah, they're a bunch of
white supremacist.
Adam Curry: The white
supremacist are Biden, Ursula,
queen, Ursula, Prince Charles,
these are the it has nothing to
do with skin color. Those of the
true whites Supreme, the
Supreme, that's what this is the
supreme who come from white
Europe. And there were there
were people in that's where we
get the Venetian White from is
brown people in Europe who are
still part of white supremacy
and they powdered themselves up
to be white, the supreme the
people who still kind of run the
world,
John C Dvorak: you know, talking
about the band
Adam Curry: knows average white
band you confused? I do have a
question for you. As as you
mentioned, you work for the for
the air pollution, brigade, the
government, the gut, the
government. And you are a
chemist by trade so I can ask
you a question about this rather
short report from Scandinavia,
the federal
Unknown: government is
investigating so called Forever
chemicals in Canada, a growing
body of evidence points to toxic
chemicals on our clothes making
their way into our bodies. The
question is how much harm they
potentially are doing. As the
CBC is David certain reports
Ottawa wants to regulate the
products linked to them.
Health Canada and Environment
Canada are reviewing the science
behind forever chemicals per and
poly floral alkyl substances or
P bass, a group of chemicals
that hang around in the
environment for a long time,
exposure has been linked to
liver damage and breast cancer.
Still, these chemicals are quite
common in clothing, compostable
takeout containers, and many
other consumer items. According
to the government's latest
Science Review, tests show pee
fast in the blood of many
Canadians and even more elevated
levels among people in northern
indigenous communities. The
government wants to consult more
Canadians but with this
scientific review it's putting
industry on notice saying
intends to regulate forever
chemicals.
Adam Curry: So they're calling
this forever chemicals which I
love as a term. Nice it's It's
pee fast which is poly floral
floral Cole
John C Dvorak: site away most
chemicals are forever chemicals
but
Adam Curry: yeah, well this.
This is why I come to you hat in
hand asking what is what is the
deal with these poly Flora like
CO flora. Floral Flora Cole? How
come? I can't pronounce this?
John C Dvorak: That's I don't
know if you're coming to me for
that. I don't know why you can't
pronounce it.
Adam Curry: What is it and why
is it in our clothes?
John C Dvorak: They're bad.
Well, do you remember that?
About eight years ago on this
show? We talked about the we
talked about you using old
detergents downy fabric
softeners. Yes. And then
everybody jumped all over so you
can't do that don't use these
things are going to kill you.
Adam Curry: They wound up using
some nuts in a bath. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: I know I owe you
Yeah, I use the ball. So
Adam Curry: now it's soap nuts
in the bag and tennis balls in
the dryer. Tennis balls, tennis
balls in the dryer. Yeah. And
does the job. Guess how long
that lasted?
John C Dvorak: Well, well, it
was wishes you met Tina.
Adam Curry: Well, no, she did.
She's all in on the tennis
balls. We still use the tennis
balls. But I think she slips in
a sheet or too little softener
sheet to make it smell fresh.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well,
that's the stuff that we're
talking about. And it's used for
the for that same reason. It's
like it these things, these
weird chemicals. I don't even
know how they develop them. But
they use into fabrics that
modern fabrics seem to take a
liking to him and say, Yeah, you
know, you put that mix that with
me, and I'm gonna be soft, I'm
gonna feel a lot more expensive
than I really am anyone who's
owned a cashmere sweater, and
tried to find some that says
Nice. That may with some other
fabric. Sometimes you do. And
that's because it's been
treated. And so these guys are
like, Oh, well, you know, this
is not good for the body. It's
probably not good for your
liver. It's probably not I'm
probably in agreement with most
of these these assertions,
Adam Curry: correct. But
whenever I hear a cool marketing
phrase, like forever chemicals,
and they're also racist, because
Oh, no, it hurts indigenous
people more I don't by the way I
that I don't get well because
because there's something behind
us this coolness. Why?
John C Dvorak: Yes, there's
always something behind it. And
it is a cool phrase. You're
right forever. Chemicals. Great.
Adam Curry: It's an app. It's an
app.
Unknown: It bet probably.
John C Dvorak: Oh, agenda your
ops show.
Adam Curry: Oh, that's Hey,
everybody. Welcome to the ops
Show Up Show Up Show. Andrew
Sullivan, the OG gay blogger.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Yeah.
Adam Curry: We're famous wrote
quite the substack.
John C Dvorak: Did you Did he
now? Oh, he
Adam Curry: did. Ki dove right
into the the the queer
theorists.
John C Dvorak: And he's Is he is
he? I guess he knows. He says.
Adam Curry: Of course. He's
against it. He finally what
we've been saying is that gay
and lesbians are under severe
attack. They're being erased
because they're cysts that yes,
they are being erased. He wrote,
I must have received from 15
different people.
John C Dvorak: I didn't get it
once.
Adam Curry: Well, you know,
John C Dvorak: let's write your
date. This is your beat. This is
Adam Curry: just my that's my
beat everybody
John C Dvorak: the trans man.
Adam Curry: I'm gonna go on
Glenn Beck and say hey, Glenn,
just so you know, I'm now the
trans man. I'm going Tuesday. By
the way it should be fun.
Although just as an aside, Tina
was watching my previous
appearance on back and she
noticed something that I forgot
to bring up but bothers me a
lot. The setting for him is a
table a round table in a giant
studio. It really is a big
studio. It's all empty. They got
you know, some lights at the
very edges. effect it looks
great. Looks great. And he's got
the hang and microphones and
everything almost like I should
be you know, like, Oh, what the
I
John C Dvorak: don't like to
hang the microphones he had that
when he had Rodriguez or
whatever that guy's name was
like Mike was he like slowly
twisting? It was like, oh,
Senator diamond. Like
Adam Curry: I actually in my
first and my first appearance. I
actually hit it by accident with
my hand. It was weird. It was it
was swinging back and forth. He
has so the end there's two
chairs. The guest chair is lower
than his
John C Dvorak: debt. This is an
old TV trick.
Adam Curry: I know. But I hate
it. And I want to say I can I
have a phonebook. Glenn, I'm
gonna ask him for that. It's not
cool. It isn't old. And I think
he probably does that on
purpose. It seems like he would
like TV guy. Yeah, really? Yeah.
This is the Johnny Carson.
Johnny Carson started that I
think
John C Dvorak: I think Johnny
Carson started Yeah. Yeah.
Adam Curry: It's annoying. And
I'm six five and I'm gonna sit
there like a little boy
John C Dvorak: like a little
boy. Yeah. At the table. You can
ask him a piece.
Adam Curry: So Andrew Sullivan,
he the unload is a great piece
it's in the show notes. And he
what he says is to be homosexual
is in contrast is meant to be
attracted to same sex gays and
lesbians run the gamut of tastes
politics, backgrounds,
religions, some are conservative
some radical some indifferent
some gays are queers, but most
aren't and the queers now run
what was once the gay rights
movement for a longer piercing
reflect on the takeover read,
somebody has some reference
here. But he says unlike the
gays and lesbians who definitely
fought a fight in the United
States, and and came out okay.
We don't We it's it's more legal
in America to have same sex
marriage than it is in most
countries in Europe. It's more
accepted even the more accepted
in the net Dylan's got spit on
by the Moroccans if you same sex
holding hands in the street. But
then he says the queers up the
ante and did something we gaze
never did. They targeted
children. If they could get into
kids minds, bodies and souls
from the very beginning of their
lives, they could abolish the
sex binary from the ground up.
And so they got a pliant woke
educational establishment to
reprogram children from the very
start telling toddlers that any
single one of them could be
living in the wrong body.
Therefore, before they could
even spell kindergarteners were
told to pick a pronoun there by
a sex as soon as they arrived,
endless kitty books reiterated
the queer theory mantra about
gender, you can be a girl or a
boy or both, or neither or
something else entirely. And if
the sex the child chose did not
match their physical body, they
were told they could just change
it and change it back if they
needed to no questions asked
fun. If a boy said he was a girl
or vice versa. It wasn't fact
unethical to ask any further
questions from now on. He was a
girl parents a problem to
overcome. And that's just an
excerpt. There's a very, very
good piece very thoughtful. And
I'm glad that we now see a
leader of gay America. Unlike
Kara Swisher who should be with
Andrew Sullivan on this in
John C Dvorak: 105%
Adam Curry: You saved yourself
wow. I triggered 100% meme in
you just by saying Kara Swisher
John C Dvorak: in I said 105
Guys Kritis correct. And it's I
have to read this piece. I'm
sure it's right on the money.
He's always been a good run.
Adam Curry: And, and it it's
really, it's mind boggling, but
it's,
John C Dvorak: you know, it's up
to him and his his compadres to
do to address this problem.
There's nothing I mean, we
bitched and moaned just
generally speaking, but we can't
really bring it home like, like,
like people in the community
can. And it's, it's like, it's
like Muslim radicals. I mean,
it's the Muslims that have to
bring them to justice, not as
right and
Adam Curry: so and let's just
start by eradicating things as
the community. LGBTQ is not the
community. It's a brand. And
it's all about the Q and the B,
the B, even just by the mere
nature that B is in that lineup.
We'll get rid of the B stands
for bisexual by definition means
that this t and Q was is
ridiculous in the community. So
let's play a clip. Oh, I was
going to have a whole thing. Oh,
I'm glad you've got something
please.
John C Dvorak: So here's a trans
non binary teacher who is tick
tock Yeah. Tick tock. Here's a
trans non binary t shirt and I
can't tell if it's what this
teacher is it's a boy Amy's like
pat the old character on
Adam Curry: no yeah and so
John C Dvorak: he's he she ages
ever says they them he's obey
them or she's obey them I don't
know. But he they them is
concerned with how to address
and this is an issue that has
not been brought up on our show
or otherwise that I know of.
When you have a non binary
person how do you put their what
is their original salutation? Is
it Mr. Is it miss? Is it misery?
You can't use the very good
question or mister or miss it or
anything because you don't I
mean that this further confuses
the day them he she bullcrap I
said it again. Now. He's got it.
He she they them has got a
solution. Kind of because it
came up in his her there's
classes here it is.
Unknown: So I'm a trans non
binary high school teacher. And
since coming out a lot of people
have asked me if students don't
use Mr or miss with me. What do
they put in front of my name? So
the answer is nothing. I don't
put anything in front of my
name. And students just call me
Flint. But recently some of my
students stayed behind after
class to tell me that they do
not like this arrangement
anymore. And they presented me
with some alternate honorifics
for my approval. So let's go
through them starting strong
with Captain I like this because
it sounds like I'm leading a
crew on the Enterprise instead
of begging students to care
about literature. Next one is
good to sergeant or Sarge it's
masculine commanding, but I
don't think I can be counted to
reliably spell it next is Lord
which made me immediately
uncomfortable and been in
principle but I think in
practice I would be immediately
alarmed if I heard somebody
calling their teacher Lord
anything fourth is Coach which I
do here as a coach for roller
derby but the only thing I
actually coach at school is
Academic Decathlon which I don't
think qualifies me for this doc
I think makes me sound like I
should be helping Snow White
with her house chores. So I'm
gonna pass chef I think is
unquestionably my favorite. I
teach English and film my day
doesn't deal with food at all.
But the absurdity I think, is
its charm. Reminds me a lot of
those people that are upset that
I'm not closeted at school who
tell me to teach math and so I
answer this is a Wendy's. I'm
gonna skip right past this one.
A late entry today was, Your
Honor, I think it might put
students in a defensive position
immediately. Sometimes they
deserve it, let me know if
you've got a favorite.
Adam Curry: Okay, so this is
this is exactly what happens.
This kind of stuff is passed
around. And everyone, just like,
climate change does like all the
things, but let's just like the
Russia, Ukraine war, everybody
gets all spun up. And that is
the whole point. Again, the
American media model is
opposition, strife. The always
if you don't, I can barely even
watch it. Luckily, we have clip
collectors and custodians. If
you watch cable news, if you
watch Fox, they're playing clips
of the guys on the left, if you
watch, MSNBC, CNN, they're all
playing clips. That's all they
do all day, there's no one doing
any news is just a spin you up.
And it works. It works against
you. That's what most podcasts
are about. Which is why we're
never going to be really
successful. Because we're not
using the model of success.
We're using the model of
honesty, so that we can look at
ourselves in the mirror, and
hopefully calm people down. And
this is it's coming. A lot of
this is coming from big pharma
once again, because they're the
ones benefiting each child that
decides to transition is worth
$7 million over their lifetime.
At minimum point two. You have
it down to the decimal I'm
impressed 7.2 And think about
the restrictions that big pharma
put on COVID. You can't even
talk about ivermectin that's
horse paste. You can't you if
you go against big farmers
wishes then you lose your
license, your your, your your
your scrubbed off off the world,
your your business will close.
You get no insurance for your
business. This is Big Pharma is
doing this. And when I say big
farm, I'm also talking about the
American Psychology Association,
the American Association of
Pediatrics, DC, CDC, Rachel
Levine is a big, big part of it.
All the preschoolers who own
medical device companies, it's
all about money for them. It's
and they don't care. And and
it's all about power. And this
is the worst part is the
Democrats in general, are the
ones that see oh, wow, this is
perfect. We can grab these
people, these are the people
that will will be affectionate
towards them. And I would say
today's Democrat is a Maoist,
socialist, Marxist. So no, we
could we can grab these children
early on someone else is
grabbing them as Big Pharma.
Thank you very much. That's
great. Oh, media is just helping
out. Parents are afraid. Parents
were afraid to speak up about
masking in schools, parents were
afraid to say, hey, I really
don't want my kid to get this
shot. I really don't want my kid
to get the shot without me
knowing about it. So and this,
this trans mouse movement
happened during COVID. That's
when children were left alone to
their own devices, literally,
their devices, beaming this crap
into them. And so you need to
take charge of your inputs of
yourself and your children. This
queer ideology, which to me as I
look at it, this it's it's
nothing new. It's just we have
the it's plus the internet, we
in the 70s. And like, we had
punk and we'd be sticking safety
pins through our ear lobes and
through our nose and through our
cheek and we had ad leather
jackets with an A on the inner
circle anarchists. Yeah, yeah.
And we had the Sex Pistols and
God Save the Queen Jade, no
human being. Now it's just been
turbocharged. Ben is really just
people who want to be against
everything, and against the
establishment. And the
establishment is now in charge
and is running your children
into the ground. And here's to
people learning to be teachers.
How do you feel about
Unknown: LGBTQ pushing their
agenda on the youth? There's no
agenda. You're you are speaking
to the LGBT.
Rs. It was it was great. I feel
as though I feel as though every
child should be gay. Yeah, I
think every single time actually
gay and I'm starting to be a
teacher right now. And I'm going
to make every child in my class.
Adam Curry: These people are
completely captured. They
completely brainwashed, and you
need to avoid them. Get them out
of your school, get your child
out of the school, but you also
have to watch check yourself.
These are still people they
have, they're just they have
they have been mind controlled.
And they're they're literally
under spells. And this is the
only clip that I really need to
play because it shows how the
spell has taken charge of
otherwise probably normal
adults. And I was I'm glad I
could find this in context
because the spin you up make you
crazy version was the only thing
you saw about a minute on. On
social media. I got the full
three minutes. This is Democrat
Senator, Senator mckaela
Kavanaugh of Nebraska. Now,
let's take the context of what
was happening here. They were
discussing a bill which, by the
way in Nebraska, passed
narrowly, which if signed by the
governor will ban sex change
procedures for minors under 19.
As well as a blade,
John C Dvorak: I saw it that sex
change for minors under 18 was
already nobody did it.
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's just
not true. And with sex change,
we also mean chemically altering
your the state of your body so
testosterone, estrogen, it's not
none of it is reversible as they
claim. And again, parents are
just we know parents of these
trans children. And we know
these people, John, you and I,
we look at them, and we say
they've just been captured.
They're afraid to say no,
they're afraid to stand up.
They're
John C Dvorak: not afraid to say
No, they won't say no, they're
completely they're captured to
the extreme that they're
righteous. But there's
difference between the people
that are afraid to say no, then
the people who have been
captured and are righteous about
it.
Adam Curry: I still, I still
have sympathy for them, because
they're under some form of
spell, which is very similar.
And maybe just 30% of people are
lost. But it's very similar to
Vax versus unvaccinated. It
doesn't matter how many times
you show that you were lied to
about the vaccine. They never
accept it, they will never
accept it. And it's like, lies
many experiments that show that
people have herd mentality, and
they will just go along with it.
And but it comes from a place of
fear. So by the way, this, this
is not even such a crazy law, 12
weeks of pregnancy, I mean,
filling your own, your own
version of what you think is, is
acceptable. And 19 is older than
then most states, you know, it's
18 for this type of this type of
work, but it includes puberty
blockers. And so the senator
comes up, and there were people
protesting out in the, in the
hallway. And she starts off very
normally saying that she doesn't
agree with it. And this is the
piece that you didn't hear and
certainly didn't see. And then
she just goes into into a chant
that I think it has been, it's a
spell she's under a spell. And
she is not the only one. And I
have compassion and love for
her. But it is very troubling to
see Senator Mikayla
Unknown: cabina you recognize to
speak. Thank you, Mr. President.
Trans people belong here. We
need trans people, we love trans
people. That's what they're
saying out there.
Adam Curry: That's what they're
saying out there. That is the
chat.
Unknown: They're standing in a
circle in the attended saying
that over and over again. Trans
people belong here. We need
trans people, we love trans
people, trans people belong
here. We need trans people, we
love trans people, trans people
belong here. We need trans
people, we love trans people,
trans people belong here. We
need trans people, we love trans
people, trans people belong
here. We need trans people, we
love trans people, trans people
belong here. We need trans
people, we love trans people,
trans people belong here. We
need trans people, we love trans
people, trans people belong
here. We need trans people, we
love trans people, trans people
belong here.
We need trans people, we
love trans people, trans people
belong here. We need trans
people, we love trans people,
trans people belong here. We
need trans people, we love trans
people, trans people belong
here. We need trans people, we
love trans people, trans people
belong here. We need trans
people. We love trans people,
trans people belong here. We
need trans people. We love trans
people, trans people belong
here. We need trans people. We
love trans people, trans people
belong here. We need trans
people. We You love trans people
and trans people, we need trans
people, trans people, trans
people, trans people, trans
people, trans trans people,
trans people, trans people,
trans people, trans people,
trans people, trans, trans trans
people, trans people, trans
people, trans people, people
really love trans people trans
people, trans people, trans
people love trans people, you
matter, you matter. And I am for
you. And I will not stop. I will
not stop today. I will not stop
tomorrow. You are loved you
better you belong here. This
Adam Curry: is this is a very,
very disturbed individual.
John C Dvorak: I'm reminded of a
Hari Krishna.
Adam Curry: Yes, exactly.
They've heard this exactly it
chants and chants are very, very
powerful. And this I think is it
This may be done behind closed
doors, we got a very rare peek
at what at this is a this is a
person who's in government doing
this in front of her peers. This
is this is something that is way
beyond the pale. And, and, and
those it's fun kind of watching
the troll room like Stop, stop,
you know, I'm leaving, I'm
checking out, you have to face
this. You have to face what's
going on. These people need to
be embraced. And like excuse me,
you need to calm down. Let's
have a beer. Bottle light
perhaps some so this is this is
very, very, very sick. And
that's and this is the internet.
It's the food people are eating.
It's the media they're
consuming. It's the words it's
pronouns. This is where we have
to just stop. We have to stop.
We do. We do? Like Good Luck.
Well, you know people are people
are standing up to it. Here's a
TSA agent, producer. Good
afternoon. I was hesitant to
reach out as I know how much you
love the TSA. We love you that
has nothing to do with whether
you're TSA or not. But you know
now transgender passengers can
request if they want a male or
female TSA agent and this agent
is saying I'm not going to do
it. I am not going to pat down
as a man I'm not going to pat
down a woman even if they
requested I'm not going to do
it. And and and the only thing
we have Did you see Ford? Ford
now has the pride LGBT colored
rainbow F 150.
John C Dvorak: Sure that's not a
hoax.
Adam Curry: No, no, it's not. No
they specifically that No, it's
not a hoax. It's not a hoax. But
these companies are all a little
bit behind. You know that they
haven't quite figured out that
people are not going to take
this anymore. The mama bears are
out there stopping this stuff in
schools. And but to them I also
you got to calm down. You don't
have to go crazy. But when I
hear this, this chanting.
Clearly these and this is the
latest. This is the best. This
is your government Matt Lee.
Finally we have a Matt Lee clip
we've been missing. Matt Lee
from the State Department
finally saw him again. In the
end, there's a new state spokes
whole State Department spokes
Hall was pretty funny by
himself. And Matt Lee has gone
very, very gray. It's kind of
like Wow, man, we haven't seen
you around and you went gray on
us. And he's old. He's getting
up there. And he started off the
briefing with a question
Unknown: here. Have you gotten
any emails from any of your
colleagues in Alaska? You know,
before you came out here,
obviously not while you've been
at the podium, but since about
noon or so.
I wanted to get to your
question.
Have you? What's your question?
Do you have Are you able to look
at them right now my email? I'm
not gonna pull up my email list
from the photo. No, you don't
need to show it to me. Yeah. I
want to notice I want to know if
you've noticed anything
different in the from the The
line where it gives the sender
and then that this would be a
lot better if you would just,
what's your question was? Well,
I mean, you say you haven't
noticed anything now. Okay, so
within the last hour and a half,
two hours, the State
Department's internal email
system, and I tested this, this
group has added pronouns to
people's, not their signature,
but to their former where, you
know, where it says from? Okay,
so it will say him, his or her,
you know, dashi why this is not
an optional thing, this is
something that has been just
arbitrarily imposed. And I
understand that people could
have their pronouns attached if
they'd wanted them to a
signature before. But this is
not something that anyone has a
choice about.
Adam Curry: We have the premise
here that the State Department
was automatically putting
pronouns in the From field.
Yeah. Is it a
John C Dvorak: scandal because
of the glitch?
Unknown: So I'm just wondering,
why and who made this decision?
Well,
I have not seen this phenomenon
for myself. Just to ask you a
question, is it just for
internal State Department and
obviously as if that will be
okay.
I tested someone in this
building. And whereas before, it
did not have any of these
pronouns attached to the
sender's name, it now does. And
I've also been told from other
people, that's the many of them
or at least when you
send it does it doesn't have the
Adam Curry: show too. So anyway,
the State Department indeed,
there was some kind of glitch
because they were indeed or have
been planning to add automatic
or maybe you should be able to
choose pronouns to the from
field, which, now this is an out
they use Outlook. So I'm just
going to presume this is a
Microsoft feature that they will
be adding. And the State
Department is now offering free
therapy to any employees who
feel hurt or upset by this
unfortunate glitch.
John C Dvorak: If they were
misgendering gendered, yes.
Yeah. If your name is Andy, for
example, it could be a woman.
But I get you get to hear her
and hurt your feelings is such
an extreme.
Adam Curry: So we need to come
up with a couple of we've done
this in the past, we need to
help people with ways to stop
the pronoun stuff if someone
says, oh, no, that's a he or she
them or her? Azura No, it's
John C Dvorak: It's butchery is
ruining the English language
makes it harder to write. And
it's idiotic emphasis, very
small, small sub 1% of the
population demandingness. And
why is such a small group
calling the shots
Adam Curry: Well, obviously
because this is part of the
trans Maoist system hobbyists.
So we need to have a comeback,
which we've done in the past.
It's like when someone sends you
an email and then there's a
pronoun in there I think that we
have to start saying excuse me,
I cannot converse with you if
you're doing this but that needs
to be a better comeback.
John C Dvorak: Yes, yes. I
agree. Better come back
Adam Curry: to that we need a
better comeback. We need to have
something I'm looking for
something I'm looking for
something
John C Dvorak: maybe somebody
out there all right, something
that is theirs. We have writers
that have no talent yet maybe
they're on strike taking give us
a free material and they'll come
up with this this one liner that
we're looking for because
Adam Curry: I see this
incorporations all the time now
and then it's virtue signaling
its political it has no business
in business and and we have to
find a polite way to tell people
no I'm I'm I can't I don't know
John C Dvorak: you I get one way
I didn't know you were a
Democrat.
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
courage in the morning to you
the man who put the seat in the
Forever chemicals. Ladies and
gentlemen, please say hello to
my friend on the other end Mr.
John C.
John C Dvorak: Sorry, in the
morning, I was making so much
noise I couldn't hear you in the
morning to you Adam curry also
in the morning all ships see
boots to the ground. Water
Adam Curry: the pronoun virtue
signaling through how many? Oh
wow, we're two hours into the
show and we still have 20 206
That's not too bad. Normally
That's good. Normally we break
one hour in why are we breaking
two hours in?
John C Dvorak: Well, it's very
no donation. That's
Adam Curry: right. The less
donations the more show. It's
amazing. We must we must be
doing something wrong. And maybe
we're just not giving enough
value. I think I think we bring
in the value. People say we're
bringing the value, but what
John C Dvorak: are we maybe
they're tired of these topics
really means possible.
Adam Curry: No. All right, we
can go Oh, all right.
John C Dvorak: I don't know what
other topics are we just
deconstruct whatever news there
is.
Adam Curry: That's pretty much
what we do. Yeah. Anyway, nice
to see you there. Trolls. We
John C Dvorak: got a holiday
coming up that might help even
though it never has in the past.
Adam Curry: Nothing ever helps.
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talent, the artwork, we want to
thank the artist who brought us
the artwork for episode 1556. We
titled that uncertainty complex,
maybe it was the title. Maybe
the title didn't bring people
didn't motivate people to maybe
to support us. I thought, yes.
John C Dvorak: I was going to
say when you are going to use
this, we're going to talk about
the art we should point out that
on the front page has been
changed to the Art Generator.
Oh, I have not seen the change.
Paul couture has created a
leaderboard.
Adam Curry: Oh leaderboard top
10 past year I see it. Well.
This is the art came from
Taunton, Neil. And it was
something not discussed in the
show at all, which was a point
of contention. For I said we
didn't discuss this at all. And
you said but it's a beautiful
piece. I couldn't argue with
that. That's the problem. I
could not argue with it being a
beautiful piece. This was the
Department of plumbers dust
busters and fixtures, which I
believe was something Matt Gates
said in one of his performances
in Congress, which is why we
probably didn't play it was an
FBI agent. He said, Oh, they're
just plumbers dust busters and
fixers. them they had a you
know, an FBI agent has a wrench,
a pipe wrench and a DustBuster a
desk Buster, Buster, it was the
best piece. But
John C Dvorak: that was that
that piece and there's also
another piece next to it nearby
by also by tantan deal of her
trying to predict in advance
what the show is going to be
about. Yeah. Which is, which is
a bad idea.
Adam Curry: Yes. Is she doing
this again?
John C Dvorak: No, I'm just
saying she did did she did it
twice. If you look at the piece
that she did go over to there is
another piece. Similar. It's not
similar. It's not half as good.
But it's got the dustbuster done
by her right I also done by her
show. So she was all in on
predicting what we're going to
talk about. And trying to
predict what we're going to talk
about is not necessarily we
don't talk about what you think
we're going to talk about,
generally speaking well here's
Adam Curry: a question for you
seeing the low donations. Are we
talking about the wrong things?
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm all in
for playing these whack job
clips. In fact, right here in
the middle of the donation
segment. I have one oh, here we
go. All right. So this is the
kind of clip that you know it's
not much to talk about it just
silly this silly and the dust
busters thing was to but this is
Linda's now they had a bunch of
Western whistleblowers Right.
Right. Right. Who was really
interesting because the
Democrats were excoriating them
because they were you know, even
though the Democrats are the
ones behind the whole idea of
whistleblowers. They were big
onto the whistleblowers because
you know all going back to the
Pentagon Papers, they were the
ones all trying to protect the
whistleblowers, but now they
hate whistleblowers. Surprise,
surprise. So these guys, so we
have Linda Sanchez, who has
argued Probably one of the two
or three stupidest
representatives in the House or
in the house there are trying to
burn one of these whistleblowers
with an idiotic question. And
let's listen to Linda.
Unknown: Mr. Allen, have you
ever use Twitter? Yes or no?
I have utilized Twitter. Yes.
Okay.
And is your account at Marcus at
97050645?
That is absolutely not my
account. Okay. That's not your
account. Well, on
December 5 2020, to an account
under the name Marcus Allen
retweeted a tweet that said it
is not my account. Ma'am. You
haven't let me finish the
question, sir. football player.
You haven't let me finish the
question on this. And the time
is mine. On December 5 2020, to
an account under the name of
Marcus Allen retweeted a tweet
that said quote, Nancy Pelosi
stage January 6, retweet if you
agree and quote, do you agree
with that statement? Yes or no?
That that is I don't know.
Ma'am. That's not my account at
all.
I have. I'm asking whether you
agree with that statement? Yes
or not? Can
you please rephrase this?
Rephrase. The gentlelady has
expired staged
January 6. I just want him to
answer. Yeah, he'll answer I
just telling you, your time's
up. Do you believe that Nancy
Pelosi Do you agree with the
statement that this person
tweeted that Nancy Pelosi stage
January 6? I asked her No. No.
Thank you. I yield back.
Adam Curry: Oh my goodness.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, you
know, maybe we need to play more
stuff like listen to that you
meet me. Oh ha let's do a tussle
Taunton. You also tried to do
something about the Durham
report. Which it you know and
she put in there which didn't
quite work you know, which is f
being yourself magic corridor to
health. Which was was cute. But
what maybe we should be doing
this. You know, they're so
crazy. It was democratic. Rachel
Maddow.
Unknown: Second thing we are
keeping an eye on tonight is the
reaction particularly the
reaction on the political right,
man,
Adam Curry: she was totally you
know, Trump was right. He was
exonerated right.
Unknown: To the long awaited
Durham report. Job to report
Adam Curry: listen to that mad
cow
Unknown: for long awaited what,
right but
Adam Curry: oh, like she doesn't
know what it is?
Unknown: Well, the reason we're
watching for the right. And
their reaction to this is
because the Durham report is
only really long awaited by
them. And they really, really
have been awaiting this report.
Boy, they have been excited
about this for a long time.
literally for years, former
President Trump and his allies
have been invoking the name John
Durham, or sometimes Bull
Durham.
Adam Curry: Oh, she's gonna lie
listen to her lie, as
Unknown: the man who would save
them and smite all of Trump's
enemies. For years they have
been heralding the great
revelations, John Durham would
soon reveal about Trump's
political opponents and the deep
state and all their evil ways.
Adam Curry: That's exactly
what's in the report, along with
the fact that no agenda is the
best podcast in the universe.
When that
Unknown: didn't seem to be
happening. Trump and his allies
started pounding their chests
and yelling at the clouds about
why Durham hadn't acted yet. Why
he hadn't yet smoked all of
Trump's enemies. Why, you know,
there were Democrats who weren't
yet at Guantanamo.
Adam Curry: And Hillary Clinton
is in Guantanamo. We all know.
That's what people want from us,
John. This clearly what they
want. They want us to do that
kind of material, like every
other podcast out there.
John C Dvorak: Everybody does
that.
Adam Curry: So what I mean, and
who else can tell you how
they're going to take the good
neighborhoods and in Oakland,
from stealing property to the
property? Oh, that's
John C Dvorak: not it
interesting as excoriating
Rachel Maddow. Exactly. There
were one once a week show or she
always looks down like she's so
concerned about what's in the
next blonde one of the most
watching look down at you.
Adam Curry: Yeah, oh yeah, of
course. Of course. Now comics or
Blogger had an interesting
little thing but it was so AI we
couldn't we just couldn't stand
it.
John C Dvorak: No, it was his I
liked a rabid Teddy his AI thing
developed that was a very good
job. Oh it's pretty high.
Adam Curry: Yeah for for the AI
which is good AI the credit you
know, that's what we should be
doing.
John C Dvorak: He did he did
some work on that piece though.
Because he had the gives I know
the AI will give you anything
like no agenda to top and
Coronavirus at the most we had
to put that on by hand and so he
did it in such a way that it did
to have the rabbit overlay it so
he had to do that. Using a
little some trickery.
Adam Curry: I think a lot of
people are using AI comics your
blog just really kind of flooded
the zone with some of his AI
stuff. Darren O'Neal the head
Pinocchio. What was the point of
Pinocchio with the NBC logo and
BBC reports.
John C Dvorak: We had sorry
about them lying all the time.
But the problem I had with that
piece was that I don't believe
that Darren licensed that
Pinocchio character and Disney's
really uptight about anything
use of their characters and I
don't want to even talk
Adam Curry: before you know,
though they'll leave your state
taking all their business with
you with them.
John C Dvorak: So the point that
is like, no, they tend to sue.
They did and I'm not do paying
doing anything with the Disney
character you forget it. There's
not a good there was there was
good stuff to use. It's just
that I was arguing because
because of the prettiness and
just the professionalism of this
one piece, which and US made the
argument a you know, we didn't
even talk about that.
Adam Curry: Yeah, which at
which, but it was it was the
nicest piece amongst all the
other things.
John C Dvorak: It was the nicest
to an extreme. That's if it was
less. That's the
Adam Curry: problem. That's the
problem. It was not and you were
like, Oh, we can do the AI with
the car, which is just No, no,
that was just not cutting. I
actually liked the
John C Dvorak: we liked that AI
with the car piece. I just
suggested it was usable.
Adam Curry: I like the SIR Polka
tour the bill as the shill. But
of course you pointed out that
it was very unclear because the
Sheila was way too small for the
artwork, which is always my my
gripe and so I couldn't get out
from under that one. Obviously.
John C Dvorak: I didn't get that
piece. Yeah, well, because we
Adam Curry: were talking about
bills and you know, I don't know
it had something to do with the
show at least. Maybe, maybe,
maybe Johnson he was not even
listened to the show. He just
gets up in the morning looks at
the news look past it looks at
Twitter, and I'll just do one of
these. See if I can get on the
leaderboard.
John C Dvorak: Early in the
game, that piece would take some
time. The leader versus number
two
Adam Curry: currently now at the
top 10. Ladies gentlemen at
number 10 Darren O'Neal comments
for Blogger number nine Roger
round eaten that he'll be off
the charts soon as he start he's
John C Dvorak: doing stuff from
the shelf and he's basically a
married man with a job
Adam Curry: same Kenny Ben comes
in at number seven. Nico Syme,
who's relatively new to the
chart number six, correct
director at five Sir Paul
couture. Who is the purveyor of
the entire Art Generator number
four networks at number three,
Tom to kneel who just had her
16th When at number two and
number one on top of the chart
capitalist agenda with 18 wins.
We also now need for next week
we need to know someone went up
or down on the chart if someone
is Oh, yeah. And the arrows we
need bold arrow bullets when you
know if someone enters the chart
with a bullet. There's a full
leaderboard as well. Oh my
goodness is there's like a full
leaderboard of how many artists
are 213 We have 213 artists well
213 Also the all time
leaderboard, all time
leaderboard, okay. But like
Nick, the rat is all time winner
with 189 wins Martin J. J with
107. And unbelievably, the non
artists Darren O'Neill, number
three of all time with 99 wins.
John C Dvorak: There was a
moment in time when Nick de Rata
you can go look at his his page
and see this. He's got pay. He's
got 1020 pages of art. Nick, the
rat was submitting serious stuff
for about two or three years.
And it's a still there. I mean,
you still look at his old stuff.
And you see this that is still
usable. Nick the rat was really
quite a phenomenon for for a
while. Somebody's got to start
doing his own show got a big
head lost his touch. What Yeah,
Adam Curry: exactly. Once I went
on the show, as a guest, then he
was he was just getting
senators, heads of state all
kinds of people on his show. And
you're right. And then he got me
on the show got me me on the
show. And then you got a big
head and you just quit. That's
not true. He has tried a few
things recently, once in a while
does something
John C Dvorak: lost his touch
somewhere?
Adam Curry: No agenda art.
generator.com is where you can
follow along. Or if you're using
that, that cool new podcast app
I told you about. You'll see
these many of these pieces that
we discuss, used throughout the
duration of the show, as Dred
Scott puts those in his chapter
art. And now I believe a couple
of pod verse and fountain they
have was at Android Auto and
CarPlay. So you can actually see
the art change on your dashboard
while you're driving. Nice.
Yeah, it's actually it's pretty
cool. Thank you very much
artists. We appreciate all that
you do. Now we're going to thank
our executive and Associate
Executive producers for episode
1557. We kick it off with our
top donor and executive producer
one of two sir Scott the Jew
from Post Falls, Idaho who I
believe also sent in a meter
report in the morning name John
C and Adam J H NSI. Please
accept this donation generated
at the latest North Idaho sanity
brigade Third Thursday monthly
meetup every Oh, this is nice.
every attendee chipped in all
via the fistful of cash plopped
down into the middle of the
table. They're badass up there
in Idaho. The following people
are first time donors and need
do you do things Claude The
gypsy
Unknown: you've been deed deuced
Adam Curry: and Dave
Unknown: you've been deed deuced
Adam Curry: I like that I like
it when I like it when when they
pitch in at the meetup that's
kind of cool. Not all meetups do
that but I think it's a it's a
good trend. Please play trains
good planes bad thank you for
your courage and stay safe. The
board trains planes
John C Dvorak: Jack Tinkler
comes in with 333 Columbus
Georgia. And he is noticing
that's going on is that
MailChimp changed something and
I'm not getting my my opens.
Watch it the normal number you
buy down by bus only about 10%
but it's down but
Adam Curry: now you're blaming
that on MailChimp. And not just
the fact that people don't read
the newsletter.
John C Dvorak: No, I blame it on
MailChimp or maybe Google
because Google is changing stuff
all the time but I'm still my my
basic got the guys guys out
there. Oh, the basic check is
where it comes through. They're
still checking in with a
positive note. So good. I'm
guessing is MailChimp Okay, all
right. So let's start with Jack
Tinkler here in Columbus,
Georgia. And we're and I will
say that because we got no 3333
threes today we just got one
Jacques de douche me please.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
John C Dvorak: he was no karma
PS. John and Adam. You all my
best friends. Ah, this is y'all
I could you wouldn't do in
Georgia.
Adam Curry: Well, we're happy to
be your best friends works. Then
we go straight to Associate
Executive Producers Kenny Corson
in North Haven, Maine $205.19.
And he says see attached note
which I have here. It's long, so
I won't read it all. But he does
say in the morning, John and
Adam. Adam, congratulations on
your anniversary. That's right.
Tina and I celebrated on Friday,
four years of blissful marriage.
And on last Monday, it was eight
years that we've been together.
He says my wife and I happened
to share the same date 22 years
and we've never had a fight. See
the last three digits of the
donation This is my third
donation in three years, so it
seems as though I should be de
Deus.
Unknown: You've been de deuced
Adam Curry: speaking of deuces,
can you call out Chris
Hutchinson and Emerson tremble
as douchebags nice says Enjoy
the first one syrup from our
farm. Did you get the syrup? Did
we get all this?
John C Dvorak: Yes, I did. I
have not tried it yet. But I
did. We also I want to mention
this there's another guy I wish
I could find this note who sent
me a couple of syrups also from
Pennsylvania and he sent me a
handwritten note and I can't
find his email so I can't get
back to him with a lawyer
advice. So the syrup he sent the
commercial stuff in any sense on
Nicola cooking syrup which he
can't sell commercially as a
syrup I
Adam Curry: got these two Yes, I
got a syrup the cookies the
regular syrup and the cooking
syrup. Yes,
John C Dvorak: cooking syrup,
the cooking syrup if it was
rebranded I'm telling you this
this is a money maker. Oh real
is cooking stuff if it's
rebranded as maple flavored
coffee sweetener
Adam Curry: even though it's
real stuff
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's real
stuff but you because look you
know they got this it's very
intense. It's very maplelea it
is a giant again a cappuccino. A
cappuccino, cappuccino it is
Adam Curry: on believable now
are you making cappuccinos at
the house these days?
John C Dvorak: I make
cappuccinos. Sure. I've been
making epigenesis seven days.
Now I will mention one other
thing. Also, I make a an iced
coffee made in the in the form
of a chocolate egg cream. Which
anyone? Do I live in Brooklyn?
No. So I make an iced coffee
like I call it a coffee a cream.
I use the maple syrup in that
for the sweetener. Drop dead.
Adam Curry: I used his cooking
syrup on. This is what I do.
When I make salmon which I bake
in the oven. I will drizzle a
little bit of maple syrup on top
of the salmon and then I put
less than lemon pepper on on top
of that, and this all baked in
the oven, and I really enjoyed
the cooking maple syrup. I will
try it in the coffee though it's
a good idea apparently he gave
us $3 In Canadian money and
without he says it stems from
the comments a while but of
course I people are mad about
the what I said about two and $1
Canadian bills. I don't know
what I said. But just keep up
the good work. Can I get a New
York you said it was cheesy. And
well there you go. Can I get a
New York Times vocal fry? My son
Odin and his friend Ramy love it
followed by a bit of Sharpton
Oh, I didn't didn't grab any
Sharpton for you on on our ESP
ICT Yeah, I got that.
Unknown: You know, obviously, I
re I read The New York Times
like all day long, mainly on my
iPad
DSP ICT and he
Adam Curry: is from four acre
farm in North Haven Island Maine
Thank you
John C Dvorak: Eric sank my her
in Fort Gratiot there's a way
pronouncing I don't remember how
Adam Curry: Gratiot Grusha he's
almost at it right brush rash
hit or gras