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assassination episode 1565 This
is no agenda. Hotez Smackdown
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and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas hill country
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here in Samaria number six in
the morning everybody I'm Adam
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curry
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John C Dvorak: in from Northern
Silicon Valley where we had a 10
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cars suffer from Chelsea divorce
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Adam Curry: Wow an early morning
Zephyr report Who would have
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expected that that's a fantastic
that's a great way to kick off
0:38
the show
0:40
John C Dvorak: it was an eight
cars effort with two private
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cars in the back and Baja
father's days
0:47
Adam Curry: father's father's
day special
0:50
John C Dvorak: and the two cars
the back were a like a sleeper
0:55
and a observation vistadome car
that were so pretty. Cream and
1:02
chrome oh it was like you go
look at this and compared to the
1:07
rest of the train you go what
happened to design in this
1:11
country? Oh my God
1:17
Adam Curry: I am so happy for
you Happy Father's Day.
1:20
Unknown: Happy Father's Day to
you.
1:21
Adam Curry: Yeah, did you get
did you get Father's Day gifts?
1:24
You get to tweet text anything?
1:27
Unknown: Yeah, I got it. I got
this
1:31
Adam Curry: you actually got
tweets. Oh yeah. Boy they know
1:34
daddy. Well don't they give the
old man this keep busy for
1:38
hours.
1:39
Unknown: Then they found this
1:45
Adam Curry: what is that?
1:47
Unknown: Turkey call
1:50
Adam Curry: now do you blow on
that or is that electronic?
1:53
John C Dvorak: No you it's a two
handed operation you used to you
1:57
slam it was your fist you know
about that?
2:02
Adam Curry: I do now yeah. Oh,
excellent. So nice. My
2:07
John C Dvorak: favorite. Is this
the chicken thing? Is this thing
2:10
though. The little squawk at the
end? It's cartoony? Yes. Good
2:18
kids don't do that. No
2:25
Adam Curry: they do a little bit
like that. Okay, all right,
2:29
everybody there you go. This is
the best podcast in the
2:31
universe. And now you know why?
Man something cool happened last
2:38
night.
2:40
Unknown: That I pray tell ya.
2:44
Adam Curry: So on I think it was
was it's Friday. I think Joe
2:48
Rogan had JFK Jr. on his
podcast. And for about the first
2:55
two hours, he just railed on
vaccines and went into into
3:01
depths I'd forgotten we've
deconstructed most of this. But
3:06
you know how how they really
work and and how the schedule is
3:10
increased and legality of it.
And of course, he knows about
3:12
all this because he sued many of
these companies. And it was
3:15
interesting because Joe started
off with a whole like five
3:19
minute monologue like a
soliloquy about he always
3:22
thought that, you know, JFK Jr.
was an anti Vaxxer a kook a nut
3:27
job, tinfoil hat wear and dude
until he read his book about
3:32
Anthony Fauci. And so this just
went on and it was beautiful. On
3:37
and on, and on and on. And yeah,
he says all kinds of stuff like,
3:39
you know, we should ban
advertisement of farm on
3:43
television, and I mean, really
stuff that we pretty much would
3:47
agree with. And then now Joe
never goes on Twitter. I think
3:52
he whatever he does, he does
Instagram and then whatever he
3:55
posts on Instagram, it gets
reposted on Twitter, and Hotep
3:59
Hotez. Now, our friend up there
in North Texas. He starts going
4:04
off, you know, typical Twitter,
like, Oh, look at these look at
4:08
these to spreading
misinformation about vaccines.
4:14
And so Joe pops on the Twitter
and says, Hey, Peter Hotez. He's
4:19
been on his show to hotel,
hotel, hotels, Hotez. He says, I
4:23
will donate $100,000 to the
charity of your choice. If you
4:27
come in and debate, Robert F.
Kennedy, Jr. had no time limit.
4:33
And all hotels will do her own
hemming and hawing. And then now
4:38
people are you know, there's
people throwing 100 grand on top
4:40
of that, and it's like $800,000
hotels, it's like, well, you
4:45
know, I'll come on I'll talk to
you but you can talk to
4:48
misinformation guy. He won't do
it.
4:52
John C Dvorak: Nobody will
debate makalah they won't bait
4:57
debate Malone. They won't debate
anybody, this whole group of
5:02
people and Hotep is one of the
top of the group OPERS. Yeah,
5:06
they will not talk about it.
They have their spiel. And they
5:11
don't want to talk about it.
That's it. No, no debate. It's
5:14
like sciences. And
5:17
Adam Curry: it's like,
checkmate. It's really
5:19
fantastic. Now, I doubt that the
M five M will do anything with
5:24
this, because we, we don't let
anybody know about this. But
5:29
it's pretty, it's pretty vital
right now. So very, very
5:34
interesting. situation. I liked
it a lot. I thought it was very
5:38
funny. And I And I'll say this
about that. RFK RFK saying, I
5:51
think we should ban pharma
advertising. Actually, I have
5:54
the clip, well listen to the
clip. And I'll say, I'll say
5:56
this about that,
5:57
Unknown: oh, you know, ambitions
have completely subsumed the
6:02
regulatory function of those
agencies. And that has, and, you
6:07
know, one of the things that we
need to do, too, is the
6:09
pharmaceutical advertising on
television, there's only two
6:13
countries in the world that
allow it on his New Zealand, the
6:17
other is our country, everybody
who is knowledgeable is against
6:20
it. It not only has compromised,
you know, has compromised public
6:26
health, we now we take largely
because of that advertising, we
6:31
take three or four times the
amount of drugs as Europeans
6:34
take. And drugs are the number
three killer in our country,
6:37
pharmaceutical drugs, the number
three killer after cancer and
6:41
heart attacks. They're not
making us healthier, we have we
6:44
spend more on health care, or
point 3 trillion than any
6:48
country in the world. And we
have the worst health impacts.
6:51
And we're behind like Mongolia,
Costa Rica, Cuba, in terms of
6:57
our health outcomes, all of
these drugs, the pharmaceutical
7:00
industry is not making us safer,
safer, it's not making us
7:04
healthier. And you know, we
changed the rule in 1990 97.
7:09
Prior to 1997, like cigarettes
and liquor, you couldn't
7:14
advertise on TV, we changed
those rules. And FDA allowed the
7:20
pharmaceutical companies to
advertise and they not only now
7:24
have a platform from which they
can tell everybody you're safe.
7:27
You need this, you need that.
But also, they are able to
7:32
dictate content on television,
so they can dictate content on
7:37
the you know, on the local and
7:39
Adam Curry: on YouTube. Yeah, of
course. Yeah. Not much new here
7:44
for for the no agenda listener,
obviously. But as it comes to,
7:48
you know, we always vote
independent. We don't we don't
7:51
vote for any of the parties. We
can't it's I mean, I can't even
7:53
bring myself to do it and too
bad. He's running as a Democrat.
7:57
Because as a single issue,
voter, I guess, if I were one of
8:02
those, it would so it would help
so much. It relates to
8:06
everything and relates to trans
Maoism. It relates to children
8:12
being morons. It relates to
education, it relates to
8:17
probably to mass murder, you
know, children going nuts with
8:21
guns, it relates to adults being
idiots it relates relates to so
8:26
much, just that one move, you
said it yourself would probably
8:31
solve some things in America.
You know, forget all the all the
8:35
stuff that all the other
candidates say this might
8:38
actually affect something. And I
guess somewhere he said he would
8:42
issue an executive order to do
it if he was president. I don't
8:45
know if he can. I don't know if
he can do that. I believe he'd
8:48
be sued immediately. I mean,
that would be freedom of speech,
8:51
all kinds of First Amendment
issues, I'm sure. But at least
8:55
someone's bringing attention to
it. Which is kind of cool.
8:59
Unknown: Yeah. Besides us.
9:02
Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, yeah,
but it's finally
9:06
John C Dvorak: finally the media
is not going to do it because
9:08
it's too much money. They're
getting too much cash. Yeah,
9:12
it's just corrupted the whole
system. That's the real issue.
9:15
zactly
9:16
Adam Curry: Well, and that's
another thing that came out this
9:19
morning. shockwave through TV
Land. This is the Netherlands
9:24
now the Netherlands is
interesting. Because very
9:27
western very liberal country.
They have an interesting media
9:31
mix of state controlled
propaganda, but also commercial
9:36
television. And this was the the
big story this morning headlines
9:41
from the media analysts as the
ratings came out. Everything's
9:45
flopping there. For the past
three days, the television
9:50
ratings in the Netherlands have
never been lower ever before.
9:54
less than 13% of the country
watched any television at all.
9:59
And And then the state channel
three had a zero had zero people
10:07
watching it yesterday. This
something happening here. This
10:12
switch is coming and it's
happening everywhere. You know
10:16
it's happening you know in
Australia seeing it NOW.
10:19
Headline ABC is quiet revolution
behind sackings as viewers
10:23
switch off TV tune into tick
tock. I'm not saying it's all
10:26
good, what's happening, but at
least they're moving away from
10:29
the mainstream, which is just
dribble and poison, and just
10:34
nothing good. And that's
probably why, you know, the
10:39
politicians are so freaked out
about exactly about tick tock
10:43
and other places, then Elon Musk
with his always free speech.
10:49
Because they don't they don't
control the message their
10:51
messaging system is breaking. It
really is.
10:58
John C Dvorak: Well, still
better than any other one
11:01
source.
11:04
Adam Curry: What do you mean?
11:05
John C Dvorak: I will? Well,
there's no I mean, there. If you
11:10
take all the podcasts and you do
all his you know, it's very
11:13
distributed. Yeah. And as
opposed to one network TV show
11:16
that can bring in 30 million
people.
11:18
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, that's
the that's the show.
11:21
John C Dvorak: I watched I was
watching. Oh, a n. Yes. What
11:28
American Woman Yeah. And the one
woman is the kind of over made
11:33
up, pretty girl. Who's on?
11:37
Adam Curry: That's everyone on
that channel. Which one is
11:39
which?
11:40
John C Dvorak: One in
particular? She had the America
11:43
shaman on for his first
interview.
11:46
Adam Curry: Oh, did you got any
clips?
11:49
John C Dvorak: No, I just was on
this morning. I was watching you
11:51
just before the show. Oh, and
the guy is a star.
11:59
Adam Curry: He's let me let me
guess he really has a great rap.
12:03
John C Dvorak: Besides having a
sounds a little like, like a
12:06
surfer guru. He's got a terrific
rap. A tremendous personality.
12:13
Adam Curry: Yeah, was he? What
did he look like? Did he have
12:16
the hat on the helmet?
12:18
John C Dvorak: No. Now he's got
a bald head. Oh, and a Taliban
12:23
beard. Jacob Chancellor. Yeah,
Chancellor. He's got a bald
12:27
head. He was wearing a suit and
a bald head in it and a Taliban
12:32
beard. Night he's a charmer Oh,
and
12:35
Adam Curry: what was the main
what was what was the main
12:37
message is this story
12:38
John C Dvorak: a story by
getting thrown in the slammer
12:40
the racist black a guards that
were trying to you know, beat
12:45
him up every chance they could
because he was the supposedly
12:47
white supremacist. He just had
funny stories to tell and he but
12:51
he was I there's one clip I
didn't have to go back and get
12:56
because it was so funny. She
asked him a bunch of government
12:59
questions and he his response to
her was just priceless because
13:03
he was questions he couldn't
answer because there was there
13:08
was a gag order on this one line
of questioning it seems he
13:12
couldn't say that either. But he
did like this triple take and
13:17
then he and he just said
something that he says no
13:20
comment in a very funny way. And
good good. He is really good he
13:28
said he's he pays starting a
website a podcast Get over
13:33
yourself perfect but what he
needs is a Hollywood agent.
13:37
Adam Curry: If see I disagree
this is no longer necessary.
13:41
Rogan will probably pick him up
and it truly podcasts are the
13:44
last bastion of free speech and
people are selecting their own
13:50
little you know whatever they
13:51
John C Dvorak: understand your
position there's though you say
13:53
it over and over again. But he
if he had an agent he would
13:56
really blossom
13:59
Adam Curry: i disagree and the
reason I know you do but I'm
14:01
just telling you what I think I
know but I'm but I'm trying to
14:04
lead into a clip but you keep
interrupting me when I disagree.
14:08
Unknown: Doing it right yeah.
14:09
Adam Curry: Wow. Should I do
that and to signal to you that I
14:11
have a clip
14:14
John C Dvorak: Oh, I don't know.
If you're gonna be if it begins
14:18
with a disagreement that creates
an argument. Okay, how about
14:21
that? It's gonna be tough.
14:22
Adam Curry: Let's try it again.
Oh, I agree with your position
14:24
from your standpoint. But let me
play a clip Spotify
14:27
Unknown: is moving on from
Prince Harry and Duchess Megan
14:29
to streaming services not
renewing their podcast. Both
14:32
sides say they've mutually
agreed to part ways ending their
14:35
estimated $25 million deal. The
podcast ran for only 12 episodes
14:40
beginning last summer.
14:41
Adam Curry: The whole Spotify
thing is falling apart. They
14:45
invested a billion dollars.
They've now fired almost
14:47
everybody they Aqua hired.
They're getting ready to read
14:51
every single big contract. All
of the Obamas are gone.
14:56
Everyone's gone. The only one
left is Joe then I don't know
14:59
what he Joe probably had a smart
deal. The whole thing didn't
15:03
work. The Influencers don't
work. The celebrities don't
15:06
work. No one cares anymore.
15:08
John C Dvorak: You argue with me
you're saying podcast is the
15:11
answer. And that's a podcasting
operation. Oh,
15:14
Adam Curry: under no, those were
exclusives. It was not a
15:17
podcasting operation. Their
exclusive you couldn't get them
15:21
anywhere you get your podcasts.
You see. You couldn't get the
15:25
Obamas on any podcast app. You
couldn't get Meghan Markel. You
15:28
had to go to Spotify. That's the
point. The Hollywood system
15:33
broke. No one cares. No one
cares. They care about us. I
15:40
think kind of a little bit. Some
people
15:42
John C Dvorak: a few was saying
that no one cares.
15:45
Adam Curry: Because watching
that they're not interested.
15:48
John C Dvorak: Here's what I
think. No, it was crappy model.
15:52
It was yes. Stupid. Yes. It
violated the principles of
15:56
podcasting. Yes, it's
15:57
Unknown: Hollywood model you and
me on now.
15:59
Adam Curry: It's a Hollywood
model. That's my point.
16:02
John C Dvorak: I don't think
it's necessarily a Hollywood
16:04
model is a book publishing
model. It's a publishing
16:08
Adam Curry: model. You can get
your books anywhere. You can get
16:11
books on Amazon, you're only one
publisher? No, it's they had to
16:16
distribution. It's not just the
publishing they wanted to
16:20
constrict the distribution.
You're not gonna argue with the
16:23
pod father. Seriously. Are you
now?
16:27
John C Dvorak: No, I there's a
flaw in your thinking. What's
16:30
the flaw?
16:33
Adam Curry: Okay, accepted.
There's a flaw and we don't know
16:35
what it is. They followed the
Hollywood model. They hired
16:39
Hollywood people to do a
Hollywood thing where it's only
16:43
Oh, we have it all. You have to
come to us to get it. That was
16:46
the flaw. That's the law. I'm
16:48
John C Dvorak: not gonna say
that's not a huge flaw. It's a
16:51
mess. Yeah, but the bigger
question, is there going to be
16:53
any Neumann mics available?
16:58
Adam Curry: I sure hope so. You
know what, if there's anyone
17:01
within Spotify, we'd love to
pick up a couple of cheap
17:04
Neumann mics we really and
maybe, you know, I'm sure they
17:08
got some other gear. What else
could we get from them? They
17:10
probably
17:10
John C Dvorak: probably have
some nice mixers. I
17:13
Adam Curry: bet you they got
some good chairs. Sure. The
17:14
chairs together. Yes, exactly.
All right. Now the other big
17:24
news. I mean, just it just was
nonstop, non stop. Finally, the
17:28
cyber pandemic has arrived.
17:31
Unknown: Tonight senior
government officials are racing
17:33
to limit the impact of what one
cyber expert is calling
17:36
potentially the largest theft
and extortion event in recent
17:40
history. American targets
include multiple federal
17:43
agencies, including the
Department of Energy, plus Johns
17:46
Hopkins affiliated hospitals in
Maryland and Florida, Georgia's
17:50
statewide university system and
the Minnesota Department of
17:53
Education. British Airways was
also hit. Officials say the
17:57
hackers are part of a cyber
criminal gang called clop call
18:00
me to operate from inside
Russia.
18:02
We've started already seeing
some of the data that was stolen
18:06
as part of their work to date.
These companies we strongly
18:10
encourage anyone who is a user
of this software to of course
18:13
patch locked down their systems,
18:16
the cyber criminals are
exploiting a software program
18:19
called Move it which companies
and government agencies to
18:22
transfer data including personal
information, the group steals
18:26
the data and in this message
believed to be from the hackers
18:29
warns that if a ransom is not
paid, after seven days, all your
18:33
data will start to be published
sometimes on the dark web. Cyber
18:37
expert Brent callow says foreign
adversaries and criminals will
18:41
be looking to leverage the data
18:43
overseas governments will no
doubt be very interested in
18:47
obtaining the information or
clop obtained through these
18:51
Adam Curry: Okay, couple things
here first of all, clop clop
18:56
believed to be operating from
Russia
19:00
Unknown: messages clear
19:02
Adam Curry: clip Yeah. So we got
clop and then there's this
19:09
program called Move it now
there's something missing from
19:13
the reporting here. The spate
really this move it stuff from
19:19
what from what it looks like to
me, you upload your files, their
19:24
encrypted 256, hash, hash,
whatever, you know, the above,
19:30
on any one possibility, one of
the many possibilities and it
19:34
probably works a bit like we
transfer or whatever and so what
19:39
these companies are saying there
was a data breach, but then how
19:45
do they know that these it's not
your typical ransomware it's not
19:49
they haven't locked up computers
it kind of you know, the
19:53
reporting borderlines on that.
But they say no, you know, if
19:56
you don't pay us money, no
mention of how much or how you
20:00
You're supposed to pay it.
Usually they throw in Bitcoin.
20:03
Yeah, that has been basically
mentioned missing from the
20:05
missing from them from the
20:07
Unknown: recording is terrible.
And that's a harridge.
20:10
Adam Curry: But you know, so did
they show somebody something
20:13
because they Oh, if you don't
pay us, we're gonna start
20:16
leaking your information, maybe
even on the dark web. So what
20:20
exactly? How do they know this?
I mean, this is not an intrusion
20:24
into networks. This is a
service. It's not as far as I
20:29
could tell. It is not a piece of
software. It is it is a service
20:33
that people use. And of course,
these guys got a government
20:36
approval. So all governments
Whoa, sounds like a good idea.
20:40
Let's put it all on encrypted on
AWS, or whatever they're using.
20:44
Okay. Yeah. You know, and
everyone's jumping on board now
20:47
from Fox eight.
20:49
Unknown: This is a special
report. Good morning, I'm
20:54
listening as we interrupt your
programming to bring you this
20:56
breaking news from Homeland
Security officials in Baton
20:59
Rouge after a massive data
breach impacting all
21:02
Louisianians, especially those
which Louisiana licenses, let's
21:06
listen, let's listen in
21:07
breaking governmental entities
and organizations around the
21:11
world. Move it is a third party
data transfer service that is
21:18
widely used to send large files.
And it is at the center of this
21:23
very sophisticated breach very
sophisticated. You've probably
21:27
already heard other national
news reports about major
21:31
businesses and organizations
dealing with this as well.
21:36
Yesterday morning, Governor
Edwards held a unified command
21:40
group meeting in which he was
briefed on the newly discovered
21:46
scale of this attack involving
office of motor vehicle data.
21:51
Oh, no, he then felt it was
imperative that we get this
21:55
information out to the public
immediately so that folks could
21:59
take proactive measures. To be
clear, we believe that all
22:06
Louisianians with a state issued
driver's license ID or car
22:13
registration likely had data
compromised.
22:17
Adam Curry: Now what does that
mean? I mean, this this is, this
22:22
seems asinine. I don't even
think this is not even related.
22:28
This I think that Joel Oh, you
know, it was just throw this in
22:30
there. I'd love to know if any
of our producers out there have
22:35
used move it and what it does
exactly, but this whole thing
22:39
Unknown: stinks. like it'd be
much different than Dropbox.
22:41
Adam Curry: I wouldn't think so.
But it this whole thing stinks.
22:45
This doesn't make any sense. And
the Department of Energy, or
22:48
whatever they do with the
Department of Department of
22:49
Energy doesn't run your
electricity. They don't they
22:53
don't they don't do that. So
okay, so what did they have just
22:56
a government website? Did they
get some important documents
23:00
from Granholm? I can tell you
what they say. More hydrogen.
23:05
Now, it's not that hard to
imagine. What
23:07
John C Dvorak: was the thing
about the DT what DMV records?
23:11
What difference does it make?
Exactly?
23:14
Take take I actually I think,
you know, this is and by the
23:19
way, this was an evolutionary
reporting. Yes. At first, when
23:24
it first came out. It was well
blob. Oh, it's nuts into it. And
23:28
it's not Russia. We checked on
that it's not Russia, then all
23:31
of a sudden became a flop as
Russia claw Russia, but not
23:34
Russia now. But now it's not the
Russian government. So we know
23:36
it's not the Russian government.
Squat. clop clop I think, and
23:41
they've ended and the real thing
that stands out like a sore
23:44
thumb to me. Is Johns Hopkins.
Yes. spook. Out of the blue is
23:51
this this this this John, what
and what other universities were
23:55
hacked? This is one of those
stories you see where 30 people
24:00
are killed so they can execute
one guy and it gets lost in the
24:05
shuffle. I think John Hopkins
was a target for some reason.
24:11
And the rest of his all smoke
screen just so we don't get we
24:15
don't start noticing Johns
Hopkins.
24:18
Adam Curry: I like it makes a
lot of sense.
24:23
John C Dvorak: And what did they
get from Johns Hopkins? That's
24:25
what we need to know.
24:28
Adam Curry: Well, we're not you
probably
24:29
John C Dvorak: have to tell us
if it's kind of a front for the
24:33
intelligence groups any one of
them. There's got to be
24:37
information that is come to
light.
24:40
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, the way
it's played in the mainstream US
24:44
Department of Energy got ransom
requests. Oh, I have I have a
24:47
ransom request for you. Excuse
me. Thank you, Mister request. I
24:51
can't pay this. Sorry. Okay.
Well, it was only a request
24:54
don't take it seriously. From
the Russia linked extortion
24:58
group. Now it's an extortion In
group Klop extortion group at
25:05
both its nuclear waste facility
and scientific education
25:08
facility that were recently hit
in a global hacking campaign.
25:14
See, these are all words that
are all data was compromised at
25:19
the to DOE entities after
hackers breached their systems
25:23
through a security. So this is
different, did they they breach
25:27
their systems. But what are they
in the network? After they they
25:34
breach their systems through a
security flaw in the File
25:37
Transfer Tool, move it to
transfer. The software is widely
25:41
used by organizations around the
world to share sensitive data
25:45
that you used it? No, I've never
even heard of it. We use SFTP
25:52
Well, I'm not I'm not an
organization. Just a dude.
25:56
John C Dvorak: Do we know that
it's widely used? I've never
25:58
heard of it either. From the
25:59
Adam Curry: US government
department to the UK telecom
26:03
regulator and energy giant shell
energy energy. A range of
26:08
victims has emerged since
Burlington Massachusetts based
26:11
progress software found the
security flaw in its move it
26:14
transfer product last month,
26:17
Unknown: last month, last month
26:20
Adam Curry: now, but now the
wide ranging impact of it shows
26:23
how even the most security
minded federal agencies are
26:26
struggling to defend against
ransomware attacks. Ransomware
26:30
gangs typically scour for such
widely used
26:33
John C Dvorak: tools. This is
conflating two stories.
26:37
Ransomware we know how that
works? Yeah, it doesn't work
26:41
through move it.
26:42
Adam Curry: Yeah. But here's a
little here's a little more
26:45
interesting. Here we go. The
Ransom requests. Ransom
26:50
John C Dvorak: isn't a ransom
request is not the same as
26:52
ransomware.
26:54
Adam Curry: But it's also rented
would be a ransom demand. Not a
26:57
request. Yeah, ransom.
26:59
John C Dvorak: Exactly. Do you
agree?
27:00
Adam Curry: They demanded
ransom. Oh, they requested why
27:03
are they using the word request?
The Ransom requests to the
27:07
Department of Energy came in
emails to each facility said the
27:10
spokesperson without revealing
how much money was demanded what
27:13
what kind of request is that?
They came in individually, not
27:21
as kind of a blind carbon copy.
Oh, was targeted email. The two
27:26
entities that received them did
not engage with clop. And there
27:30
was no indication the ransom
requests were withdrawn. Now
27:34
that goes straight into the
Department of Energy, which
27:36
manages US nuclear weapons and
nuclear waste sites related to
27:41
the military. Yeah, they do a
lot more than that. But okay.
27:45
They talk about battery cars
notified Congress of the breach
27:49
and is participating in
investigation with law
27:50
enforcement and the Cisar says
ha, oh club did not respond to
27:55
requests for comment. But in a
post, but in a post on its
27:58
website, wait a minute, club has
a website?
28:02
Unknown: Do they have a
spokesperson?
28:04
Adam Curry: Well, they Well,
they didn't respond to requests
28:07
for comments. They must have a
pr@clop.org I guess. The posts
28:14
on his website. It said yeah, it
said all caps. We don't have a
28:19
god you don't have any
government data. God do a
28:23
Russian voice and suggested that
should the hackers inadvertently
28:27
have picked up such data in
their mass theft. We still do
28:30
the polite thing and delete all
28:33
John C Dvorak: their polite side
is this. Hackers are these Oh
28:42
wow. This is a scam
28:45
Adam Curry: Recorded Future
analyst Alan Liska said clop was
28:49
likely making a big deal out of
how they purportedly deleted
28:52
government data in an attempt to
protect themselves from
28:54
retaliation from Washington and
other governments. This is horse
28:59
crap. Like massive loads of it
too. Now, I don't the whole
29:07
thing with bullet
29:08
John C Dvorak: point again, I
shot again, Johns Hopkins. This
29:11
shows up as the sore red flag on
this.
29:15
Adam Curry: Let's just listen
one more time to the witch
29:18
school. It was
29:19
Unknown: knights senior
government officials are racing
29:21
to limit the impact of what one
cyber expert is calling
29:25
potentially the largest theft
and extortion event in recent
29:28
history. American targets
include multiple federal
29:31
agencies, including the
Department of Energy, plus Johns
29:35
Hopkins affiliated hospitals in
Maryland and Florida
29:38
Adam Curry: affiliated
hospitals, affiliated hospitals
29:41
in Maryland. So
29:42
Unknown: Georgia's statewide
university system,
29:45
Maryland and Florida.
29:50
Adam Curry: Maryland. I don't
that's interesting. I mean,
29:56
there's a lot more they don't
mention any of the other one.
30:00
one's there. Here we go Johns
Hopkins what we do? That's a
30:05
children's hospital I think in
St. Petersburg, Florida. Yep, I
30:13
don't know. The whole thing is
weird. And I was hoping it would
30:16
fit into Klaus, you know, we all
know,
30:19
Unknown: but still pay
insufficient attention
30:23
insufficient. Is there a
frightening scenario of a
30:26
comprehensive cyber attack,
which would bring to a complete
30:31
halt to the power supply?
Transportation, hospitals
30:37
services, our society as a
whole. Oh, by 19 crisis would be
30:44
seen in this respect as a small
disturbance in comparison to a
30:51
major cyber attack, to use
COVID-19 guises as a timely
30:59
opportunity to reflect on the
lessons cybersecurity community
31:06
can draw and improve our
preparedness for potential cyber
31:12
pandemic.
31:14
Adam Curry: It could just be a
beginning of a setup create a
31:16
bit of tension like Oh,
everywhere. Oh, I got my
31:19
driver's license who? Oh, gum
Hill. Yeah, something like that.
31:28
That by coincidence, if there is
such a thing, President Obama
31:32
was on The X Files podcast. You
know, David Axelrod, his
31:38
handler, does the X Files for
CNN Podcast Network. And they
31:45
were talking about the digital
ID I think, in in a backhanded
31:50
way.
31:50
Unknown: This is disruptive for
our economy. They're even close
31:53
to the issues we were talking
about before. In terms of
31:55
misinformation, disinformation,
fakes. I've seen a few of
32:01
you. Yes, I've told people
because I was the first digital
32:06
president when I left office as
probably the most recorded
32:09
filmed photograph human in
32:12
Adam Curry: women. Is that a
moniker he was given the first
32:16
digital president? Not that I
recall, I think it was Bill
32:20
Clinton, who helped get the Bill
Clinton was the
32:23
Unknown: first black president.
Sorry, you're
32:28
I've seen I've seen a few of
you. Yes. I've told people
32:32
because I was the first digital
president when I left office as
32:35
probably the most recorded
filmed photograph human in
32:39
history, which is kind of a
weird thing. Yes.
32:42
Adam Curry: Human not out human
in history.
32:45
Unknown: A human human really.
32:48
Adam Curry: You don't sweat
Barak know if you're human
32:51
Unknown: in history, which is
kind of a weird thing. Yes. I
32:53
just the odds are that I was as
consequence,
32:56
Adam Curry: the odds are that I
this is aggrandizement on quite
33:00
a scale the odds are that I was
just don't argue with me acts
33:03
just handle me.
33:05
Unknown: Yes, I just the odds
are that I was as consequence,
33:09
there's a lot of raw material
there. So usually, all the
33:12
defects start with like some
version of Obama doing something
33:15
dancing, saying, dirty limericks
are some version
33:19
John C Dvorak: of Obama. Is that
what he said? Yeah, he's seeing
33:23
himself in the third person.
Yes,
33:25
Adam Curry: of course. The you
know, Obama, the personal
33:29
version of Obama. Yeah. By the
way, that didn't work. Those
33:32
weren't deep fakes. We just the
people just edited your audio
33:35
book in a different order. We
remember the Obama deep fakes
33:41
now, just all the swear words
all the cuss words you put in
33:44
your audio book people put them
together was hilarious. Not a
33:47
deep fake. Not a deep fake.
33:49
Unknown: There's plenty of those
not a deep fake misusing the
33:53
term Yes.
33:54
Usually all the defects start
with like some version of Obama
33:58
doing something dancing, saying
dirty limericks are.
34:04
Adam Curry: Right, there was
plenty of you dancing, Mr.
34:06
President,
34:07
Unknown: that technology is here
now.
34:10
Adam Curry: That technology is
here now. Most immediately,
34:14
Unknown: we're going to have all
the problems we had with
34:17
misinformation before this next
election cycle will be worse.
34:23
Adam Curry: Okay, so now we need
to do something about a problem
34:26
reaction
34:27
Unknown: and the need for us,
for the general public, I think
34:32
to be more discriminating
consumers of news and
34:36
information, the need for us to
over time develop technologies
34:42
create watermarks or digital
fingerprints so we know what is
34:47
true and what is not true
34:49
Adam Curry: digital
fingerprints. That sounds like a
34:53
digital ID to me. Yeah.
34:58
Unknown: He's talking about
34:59
Adam Curry: Well, no, he doesn't
but
35:00
John C Dvorak: then there's so
much on Biden that they, you
35:04
know, just him. No, I have tons
of clips.
35:06
Adam Curry: Let's do some but I
have let's do some Biden AI.
35:11
Unknown: Well, I do have a bite.
You have a Biden AI? No.
35:13
Adam Curry: You said you got
clips. I mean, Biden. I
35:15
John C Dvorak: got clips but I
also have one Biden AI.
35:18
Adam Curry: No, I have no Biden
AI.
35:20
John C Dvorak: Oh, okay. Well, I
have this. I figured that, you
35:22
know, he's bringing up these.
This is a I think it's a salvo.
35:27
So he sends it out. You know,
we're gonna have a lot of fake
35:30
stuff going on. But no, but the
Biden stuff is all real. It's
35:32
real. There is a fake one that
they tried to push out which
35:35
it's kind of funny. It's Biden
and Trump debating this is the
35:39
try Biden column Biden clear
caulk fake caucus so massive. I
35:45
mean, it is possibly the biggest
cock I have ever seen it.
35:47
Unknown: respond very quickly,
and then I'll get to my
35:49
question.
35:49
Why did he he's been saying this
caucus massive for four years.
35:53
Show us just show us stop
playing around.
36:02
Adam Curry: It's lewd, it's
lewd. Therefore. It's just a
36:04
borderline but man. He got me
with that one. I had not heard
36:09
that one. You were familiar? No,
I'm not familiar with the
36:13
cockfight? No, that is massive.
Yeah, you should stop. Just stop
36:19
talking about it. Show it
already. Yeah. This is This is
36:23
America. This is what we do with
technology. We're not gonna
36:26
we're not going to try and fake
you. We're gonna make you laugh.
36:30
And no one's falling for it. Oh,
oh, man. I think they're really
36:34
talking about that. What do you
think? I won 12 Second Biden AI
36:41
clip because this obviously
couldn't be an actual President
36:44
of the United States talking
here about pistols and pistol
36:48
braces
36:49
Unknown: made it harder for
people to buy stabilized brace
36:52
braces, put a pistol on a brace
turns into a gun. Makes it more
36:57
you can have a higher caliber
weapon or a higher caliber
37:00
bullet coming out of that gun.
37:01
Adam Curry: Okay, sorry for the
one channel.
37:04
John C Dvorak: It was let's do
some real Biden clip.
37:06
Adam Curry: That was a real
clip.
37:08
Unknown: Oh, that was him
actually. Yeah. What an idiot.
37:12
He
37:12
Adam Curry: says if you put a
brace on a pistol, it turns
37:14
Unknown: into more caliber guns
into
37:17
Adam Curry: a real gun. And then
you get more caliber Higher,
37:20
higher caliber bullet coming out
of it.
37:23
John C Dvorak: All right. Well,
I got it. But I've got a bunch
37:25
of clips. Here we go. I don't do
these as much as I used to
37:28
Adam Curry: when we've been
missing them. But seeing as the
37:31
president is out there on the
campaign trail, he's might as
37:33
well
37:33
John C Dvorak: bumbling and
fumbling his way through okay,
37:35
here's where you start with 8%.
37:38
Unknown: But you have we have
1000 billionaires in America
37:42
know the average tax rate they
pay? Eight AIGA is
37:51
Adam Curry: percent
8% AA 8% 1000 billion or eight e
37:57
IG H
37:58
Unknown: E IG H Wow.
38:01
Adam Curry: That's that's almost
respectable.
38:03
John C Dvorak: So here we go
with 54 states.
38:06
Unknown: And by the way, if they
do that means not a joke,
38:08
everybody. That's why we were
defeated in 2018. When they
38:12
tried to do we went to 54
states.
38:16
Adam Curry: Now, okay, so we've
been through this with Obama.
38:23
And Obama also had the, you
know, we have 58 states, but
38:27
that's when they somehow in
Washington DC. They, they take
38:32
the territories into account,
and then these and so normal for
38:37
them, they just for some reason,
they all wind up making this
38:41
mistake. It's weird, because I
think was 58 with Obama. Let me
38:45
see
38:48
Unknown: those 58 or 54
38:51
Adam Curry: I see Obama was at
54 I can't find anything on it.
38:59
John C Dvorak: Or let's go on.
Here's by OBO Biden.
39:03
Adam Curry: You said Joe Biden,
back in the groove? Yeah, baby.
39:09
Unknown: Indian OSHA. This
39:10
Adam Curry: is this classic.
39:11
Unknown: We're gonna win and
we're gonna help we have plans
39:13
to build a railroad from the
Pacific all the way across the
39:15
the notion we have plans to
build in in Angola one of the
39:20
largest solar plants in the
world. I can go on but I'm not
39:23
I'm going off script. I'm gonna
get in trouble.
39:27
Adam Curry: So it's going under
the under the Indian Ocean. This
39:29
is dynamite from
39:30
John C Dvorak: the Pacific.
How's that work? Okay, well,
39:33
Adam Curry: we understand what
he meant. So give him a break.
39:37
Yeah, he's old. Give him a
break. I mean, that
39:41
John C Dvorak: is just the last
clip that I want everyone out
39:44
there who likes to do songs you
know, put together into show
39:47
mixes. I don't know why we this
is not new. I don't know why we
39:53
never caught it before. I don't
remember it guys Sherwood
39:55
because it reminds me of the old
Obama. No, no, no. This is by
40:00
ain't doing it.
40:01
Unknown: As I said last week we
remain in the battle for the
40:06
soul of America, by the way all
right God love you. Let him go.
40:12
Let him go NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO don't let him go.
40:20
Everybody's entitled being an
idiot. Wow, no, everybody's
40:24
going.
40:24
Adam Curry: Oh man, let me do
that. That's a great sequence.
40:28
Oops sorry.
40:29
Unknown: No, no no no no no no
no no no no no don't let him go
40:33
I
40:34
Adam Curry: love I love that
that's perfect.
40:38
Unknown: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO don't let him go.
40:43
I've been watching you No no,
no, no, no, no no. Go I love
40:57
Adam Curry: that kind of works.
Love it. Oh man. Good one it
41:02
good. That is
41:03
Unknown: a gem.
41:04
Adam Curry: That its beauty. And
he got it's literally he got
41:09
stuck.
41:10
Unknown: He is stuck
41:10
Adam Curry: not an n n n n n n
and you know like a digital it
41:13
was digital digital glitch. It
was glitching Biden to the
41:17
Eidelman I think glitch Biden
glitch Gaiden glitch there you
41:20
go by this was years not
41:21
John C Dvorak: as good but it
says he does say instead of
41:23
trends. Charter says transistor
Americans
41:27
Adam Curry: Oh, no, no, no,
that's impossible. He did not
41:30
say transistor Americans. Tell
me that's not true. As Commander
41:34
Unknown: in Chief, I was proud
to have ended the ban on
41:37
transistor Americans,
41:38
Adam Curry: though he says trans
jester
41:41
John C Dvorak: this transistor
and then he corrects himself
41:43
hold
41:43
Unknown: on as commander in
chief I was proud of and as the
41:46
ban on transistor Americans
transgender Americans serving
41:50
that's the that's the same when
we played as commander in chief.
41:52
I was proud to have ended the
ban on transgender Americans
41:55
trans gesture
41:56
now I'm hearing treads joke
Okay, no.
41:59
Adam Curry: Trans jester is a
hit.
42:02
John C Dvorak: Okay, let's go to
the left does the last of the
42:04
Biden was that I do have a
couple of to dos that I like to
42:07
interject. Kudo does this do?
42:13
Adam Curry: Well, yeah, he's
it's the same programming.
42:16
John C Dvorak: So let's go with
this. stump speech, which is
42:20
just a mess.
42:21
Unknown: You know what I get
when I were talking about the
42:23
fentanyl the border and all
that. I speak to the president
42:26
Mexico. Will you stop sending
guns to us? We are sending
42:35
dangerous weapons, particularly
solos to Mexico, New Mexico, are
42:41
asking us please stop it. Cut it
off at the border. But in God's
42:47
name, we could be coming if we
don't do this. Now as some of
42:51
you know, I'd usually come down
and say hi to Oliver. They tell
42:54
me there's a storm I'll
42:55
Adam Curry: just stop here for a
second. But the government has
42:58
been sending weapons to Mexico
it was called Fast and Furious.
43:02
Was it not?
43:03
Unknown: Yeah, hello.
43:04
Adam Curry: That's exactly what
we do. And so now does his Biden
43:07
not read in on this?
43:08
John C Dvorak: I don't think
Biden has been read in on it.
43:10
Adam Curry: I guess it didn't
stop Wow, what did
43:14
Unknown: God's name we becoming
if we don't do this now, Shana?
43:19
You know, I'd usually come down
and say Hi, Doctor. They tell me
43:22
there's a storm coming in. Is
that right? Is still Is that
43:26
still the deal? That's the truth
now don't make a lie. As that
43:31
said that scene in John Wayne
movie don't make me a dog face
43:34
why and pony soldier All right.
God save the Queen man.
43:44
Adam Curry: Let's let's listen
to his OG of that.
43:47
Unknown: Number one. I was a
Democratic caucus. Member of
43:51
caucus no you haven't your lion
dog faced pony stores.
43:56
Adam Curry: That's why that's
the line lion dog faced pony
43:58
soldier. He can't even get that
out anymore. Let's Let's do it
44:01
again.
44:02
Unknown: Is that right is still
Is that still the deal? That's
44:05
the truth. Now don't make a lie.
As that said that scene in John
44:10
Wayne movie. Don't make me a dog
face. Why and ponies? Oh,
44:13
Adam Curry: no, I got it. No, he
did it. He did it.
44:14
Unknown: All right. God save the
Queen man.
44:18
Adam Curry: What was that about?
44:19
John C Dvorak: That that's the
big mystery God Save the Queen.
44:24
To hell is that about? Alright,
two more and we're done. We're
44:29
Adam Curry: just gonna I guess
everyone just ignores that in
44:31
the mainstream. Like didn't
really happen. I
44:34
John C Dvorak: know. None of
this ever happened. Okay. All
44:36
right. You have to listen to the
no agenda show to get a you know
44:40
a little few of these once in a
while.
44:42
Adam Curry: Yeah, to have to
have a chuckle.
44:47
John C Dvorak: God save the
Queen. Yes. Here's Trudeau on
44:50
masks.
44:53
Unknown: If people want to wear
a mask, that is okay. Because it
44:57
prevents you from breathing or
it's Speaking up turned moistly
45:02
on them.
45:04
Adam Curry: He said moistly a
big millennial. No, no. I can't
45:09
believe you said that. All
right. Yes. Good. Good.
45:13
Unknown: Here's him talking
about water bottle
45:15
water bottles out of water out
of when we have water bottles
45:19
out of a plastic. Sorry, away
from plastic towards paper. Like
45:27
drink box water bottle.
45:28
Adam Curry: Oh man. It's just
also sad. It's also sad. All
45:34
these people that just sad. Just
said I do have another Biden
45:39
this was I love this one and you
didn't get this one. Okay, okay,
45:42
we've mobilized
45:43
Unknown: the world's leading
emitters to help poor countries
45:46
deal with the impacts of climate
change. They call it the g7 the
45:50
bill back Biden bill back better
than we realize that got
45:54
confusing. Yeah, now we don't
call it that. We call it this.
45:58
Here's the bottom line. Look,
we're the ones that caused the
46:01
problem. The United States we
cleared all our land we did all
46:07
the things to make our make
things more easy for us to make
46:11
money.
46:12
Adam Curry: I don't know what
he's saying. But I just love
46:14
Unknown: like day hell is he
saying? I'd like to build back
46:17
Biden deal
46:17
with impact.
46:18
Adam Curry: What do we call it?
46:19
Unknown: They call it the g7 the
bill back Biden bill back better
46:26
Adam Curry: the bill back by
noon
46:38
what a narcissist can only think
of himself build back Biden.
46:44
Yeah, yeah. Well, this brings us
to unless you have more.
46:50
John C Dvorak: Yeah, definitely.
No, my Biden bit a little bit of
46:53
Adam Curry: AI news for you.
Since it's hot and everything.
46:57
Everything now is AI everything
is AI. I mean, I'm using a
47:02
program to play jingles AI man.
It's all AI Photoshop AI. Yeah,
47:08
see, I use Microsoft Word AI.
It's all AI.
47:11
Unknown: There are new rules at
the Grammys with the brave new
47:14
world of artificial intelligence
in mind. The Recording Academy
47:18
says only human creators are
eligible for an award. However,
47:22
not all AI is banned. A human
just has to contribute content
47:26
that is, quote, meaningful, and
relevant. However, that's
47:29
measured.
47:31
Adam Curry: I mean, it's just
blather now. Just black.
47:36
Everything I hear in Mute.
Everything you hear music, by
47:39
definition, has run through
algorithms processing
47:42
algorithms, if you're worried
called all AI, samplers, I mean,
47:46
this is it's so not new, but is
old. It's old news. But okay,
47:51
gives ABC a reason to do this
one, an
47:54
Unknown: eye opening survey
about artificial intelligence.
47:57
Also a little scary.
47:58
Some of the world's top CEOs
gathered at a summit and a
48:01
survey found 42% of them believe
that artificial intelligence
48:05
could destroy humanity in the
next five to 10 years. For some
48:09
of those same executives are
approving job cuts directly
48:12
related to using AI What can
possibly go wrong? Interesting,
48:15
because we'll have to wait and
see.
48:18
Adam Curry: I wish they would
say that about climate change.
48:21
Oh, five to 10 years, we're all
gonna die. Well, it gets we
48:23
don't have to worry about
climate change is always all AI
48:25
is going to eat the world. And
so we talked on the last show
48:30
about the European Union, and
that they are putting together
48:34
rules, rules against AI. And
what they're really talking
48:38
about is facial recognition.
Which I guess if you want to
48:42
call that AI Alright, call it
AI. Claire Daly. Luckily, she
48:47
stands up and she says, yeah,
it's unbelievable. We get into
48:51
my beat the real socialists we
love her. Oh, did you have this
48:54
clip? No, no. Claire gets up and
she talks about facial
48:59
recognition and she drops a
little bomb in there about
49:01
what's really happening. It's
exactly what we said would be
49:04
happening.
49:04
Unknown: AI is being sold to us
as the latest in a series of
49:08
groundbreaking technological
leaps. It'll make our lives
49:12
easier, it'll make the world a
better place. Well Don't believe
49:15
the hype. Like so much before us
AI will be used for surveillance
49:19
and control. It won't give us a
four day working week or longer
49:23
summer holidays. It won't solve
the climate crisis or
49:27
redistribute wealth. It won't
make public services better or
49:30
policing more effective, it will
be just more of the same, but
49:34
faster, and probably much worse
that judicial systems around the
49:39
world are exploring using AI and
judicial decision making should
49:43
scare the hell out of us that
Ukraine has been held up as a
49:47
living lab for AI warfare is
frightening. We should be
49:52
approaching this subject
cautiously, like every new
49:55
technology instead, we're far
too quick to follow industry,
49:59
governments Across Europe are
chomping at the bit to use
50:02
facial recognition to hell with
people's rights the Irish
50:05
government of MEP so we're in
coming in here saying they
50:08
disagree with a put their moving
legislation before a possible EU
50:12
ban. The EPP should be ashamed
of themselves for reneging on
50:15
the heart hours of negotiation.
Committee.
50:18
Adam Curry: There it is. There
it is. So while they're working
50:21
on a ban, they're moving in
legislation to use it. Yeah.
50:27
Surprise surprise, to use it
everywhere. And Mizel mentioned
50:32
this question has been emailed
to me so much I'm surprised that
50:36
no agenda producers I mean, they
know this stuff, but still they
50:39
won't email it to me so I will
mention this poor customer who
50:43
is all in on Amazon. He has the
ring doorbell he's got the door
50:48
locks he's got the Alexa he's
got all everything all connected
50:51
to Amazon. Particularly the the
smart one is the ring doorbell
50:55
which is a spy device, and the
locks. And I guess you can
51:01
program your ring doorbell was
something funny. You can have it
51:05
say funny stuff like hey, oh,
man, leave it there. You know,
51:09
maybe a Fred Sanford type voice
you can you know, whatever if
51:11
someone just rings the doorbell
with a package. And so a
51:15
delivery person delivered a
package and the doorbell he
51:19
thought the doorbell said
something that was racist. So he
51:22
reported it back to Amazon HQ.
And Amazon pulled the plug on
51:26
the guy's account and of course
locked him out of his house now
51:30
probably wouldn't let him turn
on his lights. And it's like,
51:33
ah, like don't do this people.
How many floors reminded
51:40
John C Dvorak: you know, of all
the people that are all you
51:42
know, wired to the gills with
you know, you can just drive by
51:46
drive by door opener you know,
there's all these kids you get a
51:50
one of these universal garage
door openers you just drive down
51:53
the street open everybody's
garage door. doll is it being
51:58
dependent on any of that stuff.
It's just asking for vandals to
52:01
just have a tough time in their
life.
52:03
Adam Curry: I love the troll
room correcting me it was the up
52:06
board doorbell ring. He said can
I help you? Okay, you get the
52:09
point. Here's another great
piece of AI. So someone
52:14
unleashed AI, a journalist
Joseph Martens and sent me an
52:19
email, I'm sure a I did this
forum. Joseph Martin's. My name
52:22
is Joseph Martens. I'm a
journalist with The Times News
52:25
Express, an online newspaper. I
was conducting research for an
52:28
article I wrote and came across
this link. And links to a no
52:32
agenda Show episode, I wrote an
article troubleshooting guide
52:36
for common laptop issues on the
New Times News expression, and
52:39
would like to link back to your
website as a resource for the
52:42
article. In return, I would
highly appreciate if you could
52:45
link add a link back to one of
my websites. You could get
52:49
additional publicity rank higher
on Google. So I go and take a
52:52
look. Well, what what he must
have he obviously got some
52:54
information from us. It's no
agenda Show episode 797 titled
52:59
laptop bomb. I mean, come on
people. This is not this is not
53:04
smart AI.
53:06
John C Dvorak: First of all,
first of all, having run a blog
53:09
for a decade. Yes, you've seen
this old you've seen these
53:13
requests. 10 years ago, I was
getting these notes that always
53:16
come from someone with a phony
baloney. They say we saw the
53:19
link Yeah. And it's some link
from a blog post that's five
53:23
years old that no one has ever
opened.
53:26
Adam Curry: It has gotten odd
has Google juice somehow I think
53:29
that well I think that's
53:30
John C Dvorak: they might you
know they did stem with a
53:32
scraper I don't know how they do
it. But what it is, but it's a
53:34
form letter. It's not AI
generated by any means.
53:37
Adam Curry: I was just formed
letter. Thanks, John. I was just
53:40
kind of joking around and being
okay, well,
53:42
John C Dvorak: I'm just saying
these guys keep doing this. And
53:46
it's like it when you respond to
them. Which I stupidly did once
53:52
again, you responded to nothing
because nobody home it's like,
53:56
Don't kid yourself. They just
want to look at for free Linksys
53:59
I don't know if this is a trick.
I don't know Does anyone do this
54:04
but buy into this bullcrap? You
didn't
54:07
Adam Curry: know of course not.
I just thought it was anybody
54:10
ever thought was interesting
that they literally searched for
54:13
laptop and then didn't even see
the laptop bomb. That seems like
54:18
it wouldn't go along with
troubleshooting your laptop
54:21
story.
54:25
John C Dvorak: Tim and Joe
saying you'll do it for 500
54:27
bucks
54:29
Adam Curry: that's what I would
say I still have diaries.com and
54:33
do ya about twice a week? I'll
get an email I'm highly
54:36
interested in buying this domain
name well, no one's ever no
54:41
one's ever taken me up on my my
price. A surprise one one
54:46
bitcoin which I think is decent.
One Bitcoin. That's all I ask.
54:50
John C Dvorak: Do you know that
art.com I learned this when I
54:55
was doing silicone spin. Because
the guy bone do their art.com
55:00
sold for a million dollars.
Well, that's nothing. That's
55:06
nothing in the or Well, no, it's
true. It's not it's there are
55:10
during the heyday of domain name
sales before they came up with
55:15
all these new domain domain
domain names. They were selling
55:19
for a million dollars and
associate your price of a one
55:21
Bitcoin for diaries.com is
reasonable.
55:24
Adam Curry: Cuban sold
broadcast.com for a billion.
55:27
Basically. That's what I mean. I
mean, I've been offered a lot
55:32
for curry.com. But no one Navid
I can't sell that my whole life
55:36
is it's my identity man.
55:38
Unknown: Who would put everyone
has a price?
55:41
Adam Curry: No, I don't think
so.
55:44
John C Dvorak: 10 million bucks.
Cash. Cash Money.
55:46
Adam Curry: You're my man. Come
on over here. Let's party. 10
55:49
million. No one's gonna spend
$10 million.
55:53
John C Dvorak: Would you do it
for 10 million cash money?
55:55
Adam Curry: Cash Money? Yeah,
55:57
Unknown: I guess I would. Okay,
there. Yeah. But it would
56:00
Adam Curry: I mean, five
wouldn't be enough.
56:04
Unknown: But 10 Yeah,
56:05
Adam Curry: I don't. That's when
my scruples drop away. Yeah, I
56:09
think I think I'd have to Yeah,
10 is a lot of money. I could
56:12
stop doing this podcast. You
probably wouldn't. That's how
56:17
dumb I am
56:18
John C Dvorak: to be doing a
podcast but you also have $10
56:20
million in the bank. Cash Money.
56:24
Adam Curry: Yeah, for what it's
worth for as long as it's still
56:27
worth 10 10 million. Just Just
watch it dwindle away. All
56:32
right, so just related to
Amazon. There's another strike
56:36
looming this one might be this
one might get interesting. And
56:39
of course, the story doesn't
explain what it's what the
56:41
problem is. But we all love our
UPS drivers and and they are
56:46
part of the Teamsters I believe
so this is this could be a
56:49
pretty big strike. Gil Guzman
56:51
Unknown: has been driving for
ups for 23 years did you vote to
56:55
authorize the strike? I did.
We're the best in the business
56:58
is how to get paid later. He's
one of 330,000 employees who
57:02
want wage increases and more
full time jobs.
57:05
We work hard, we work hard for
our job. We work hard for this
57:08
company. We move this country
around.
57:12
UPS is the biggest shipping
company in the US around 6% of
57:16
the nation's gross domestic
product passes through its brown
57:19
vans, nationwide, drivers
deliver nearly 90 million
57:23
packages every single day. And a
halt in operations would cause
57:28
major supply chain disruptions.
57:30
The reason we call the chain is
that it's so integrated so any
57:33
strike, especially the long
lasting strike
57:36
could have a devastating effect.
Most of the summer, back to
57:40
schools and upcoming holidays,
57:42
the boom in online shopping
during the pandemic is still
57:46
going strong, resulting in
record profits for the company.
57:49
So why not share with your
employees? Drivers already won a
57:52
big concession this week when
UPS agreed to install air
57:56
conditioning in its trucks. If
you could say one thing to the
57:59
people who are in the
negotiating room, what would you
58:01
want them to know from you
58:03
just don't mess it up. You got
330,000 Strong UPS is that give
58:08
their blood sweat and tears for
this company and both sides this
58:12
is working out and make it
happen.
58:14
Now a strike is not a guarantee
at this point in the negotiation
58:18
and UPS says it is aligned with
its workers on many key issues
58:22
and it is committed to reaching
a deal before this contract
58:25
expires at the end of July.
58:28
Adam Curry: Now, this is a very
shallow report. I dove into
58:34
this. I like UPS. I like the
guys and gals who drive ups,
58:37
just our air conditioning Come
on. Their whole system is built
58:41
around their open SR open truck.
These guys love it. They're not
58:46
looking for air conditioning.
But they had a vote on something
58:50
a year and a half ago I think
and even though 54% voted
58:55
against accepting the contract
at that point it was two years
58:58
ago. Somehow some technicality
in the rule said well, you've
59:04
got to have three quarters of
them have to be voting were some
59:07
some they pulled some fast one
on. But the real problem is most
59:12
of these packages that nowadays
are Amazon, Amazon packages. And
59:17
all of this is outsourced to UPS
and to FedEx when the United
59:21
States Postal Service which has
its own problems related to
59:25
technology and how how they're
you know people are not getting
59:28
paid anymore especially the
rural carriers many of them
59:31
listen to no agenda. But with
the UPS guys and gals, they
59:35
they're outsourcing a lot of
these Amazon packages to some
59:38
dude and a Honda Civic to
they're getting the gig economy
59:42
workers who get paid much less
you can get I think it's 21 or
59:46
$22 an hour when you start with
UPS including benefits you know,
59:50
retirement package, it was like
truly, the blue collar is like
59:54
Doug Hernan you know from King
of Queens like this. This was no
59:58
college needed you can drive was
a Good company, and now they're
1:00:01
just undercutting everybody. I
think if you're there for four
1:00:04
years you make $40 an hour, or
45 is a good job, comparatively
1:00:09
speaking. But they're what
they're not saying is that UPS
1:00:13
is just, you know, giving to
Uber drivers. Basically. That's
1:00:20
that's going to destroy these
jobs. I think.
1:00:26
John C Dvorak: We'll I haven't
looked into it. So I have no
1:00:28
idea what's really going on. We
have Amazon trucks all over the
1:00:31
place. Those things are a
plague.
1:00:36
Adam Curry: You're a plague get
rid of I'm bringing the Honda
1:00:39
Civics.
1:00:40
John C Dvorak: And those are all
operated by I think you've fed
1:00:44
UPS may own some of them. These
are the subcontractors that
1:00:50
nobody you've seen Amazon truck
and you say, well, it's some
1:00:53
guy. Independent guy bought a
truck? No. They tend to be part
1:00:57
of a team of trucks at some one
company, a small delivery
1:01:02
company that has bought 25
trucks. No a UPS trucks. No
1:01:07
Amazon.
1:01:08
Adam Curry: Oh, Amazon. Yeah.
Well, I think the future for
1:01:11
this upcoming for the Zoomer
generation is you will have a
1:01:15
Honda Civic. You will live in
your Honda Civic because you
1:01:18
can't afford to live anywhere
else. You'll be driving Uber
1:01:21
Uber Eats. Ups. You'll have your
your spatial computing with your
1:01:28
your apple vision Pro. That's
the future.
1:01:33
John C Dvorak: That's gonna be a
delivery van. You'll be happy.
1:01:38
Caught in the back.
1:01:40
Unknown: Exactly.
1:01:41
Adam Curry: I can totally see
that
1:01:44
John C Dvorak: dystopian view of
things, but yeah, it's elements
1:01:48
of that. Taking
1:01:49
Adam Curry: place. We're moving
that we're moving in that
1:01:50
direction, it seems seems clear.
1:01:55
Unknown: Bill Gates went to
China.
1:01:56
Adam Curry: Yeah, he did. He was
he looked really autistic.
1:02:03
Unknown: No, he is autistic.
1:02:05
Adam Curry: I know, but he
looked really autistic. Now in
1:02:06
that chair.
1:02:09
John C Dvorak: Though, here's
the reason why the NTD did
1:02:11
probably we'll have to say NTD
would do the best job reporting
1:02:14
on this. Oops, sorry. I had it.
And so let's start with the NTD
1:02:18
reports. And it goes into an
analysis. That's interesting.
1:02:21
Adam Curry: I'm looking for an
1:02:23
Unknown: okay gates in China.
1:02:25
One Microsoft's co founder Bill
Gates, that was Chinese leader
1:02:29
Xi Jinping on Friday. This comes
just one day after the Gates
1:02:32
Foundation pledged a $50 million
donation to a Chinese Medical
1:02:37
Research Institute. The meeting
took place at Beijing's
1:02:40
Diaoyutai state guesthouse, a
diplomatic complex used to house
1:02:44
foreign dignitaries. She called
gates an old friend saying that
1:02:48
he was happy to see the business
magnate after three years. Gates
1:02:53
on the same token said he was
honored to meet with Xi, adding
1:02:57
that there's a lot of important
topics to discuss. The Chinese
1:03:00
medical research institute
that's receiving the grant is
1:03:03
called a GH DDI. It was first
established in 2016. With the
1:03:08
help of the Gates Foundation,
China's elite Qi university and
1:03:12
the city of Beijing. The $50
million from the Bill and
1:03:15
Melinda Gates Foundation is
slated to bolster its drug
1:03:19
research capacity over the next
five years. Gates his connection
1:03:23
with Beijing goes beyond GH DDI.
Microsoft has been in China for
1:03:28
more than 30 years, and has a
large research center there. Its
1:03:32
web portal Bing is the only
China accessible foreign search
1:03:36
engine. As the regime tightens
its grip on the nation's digital
1:03:40
sector beings search results on
a number of sensitive topics
1:03:44
have been censored cybersecurity
Research Group Citizen Lab found
1:03:48
that Bing also restricts certain
Chinese search results for us
1:03:52
users
1:03:53
Adam Curry: not to be confused
with being at.io.
1:03:58
John C Dvorak: No, not to be
confused. no censorship there.
1:04:01
So I didn't know that being
censored is stuff that you if
1:04:05
you let us being here in the US
of A you're gonna get you're not
1:04:07
gonna get your Chinese
information very accurately.
1:04:10
Adam Curry: Well, that doesn't
surprise me. I don't trust any
1:04:12
search engine.
1:04:14
Unknown: surprises me. Or two,
1:04:17
Adam Curry: do you use Bing
regularly?
1:04:19
Unknown: I use DuckDuckGo.
1:04:21
Worth noting it's rare for a
Chinese leader to meet with a
1:04:25
foreign business leader. Just
recently Apple CEO Tim Cook, and
1:04:29
Tesla CEO Elon Musk both visited
China, but Gates is the only one
1:04:34
who got to meet with Xi Jinping.
1:04:37
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, that's
interesting. No, go. Didn't
1:04:41
McCrone. McCrone got to meet
him. McCrone
1:04:44
Unknown: but the point was they
are business leaders don't get
1:04:46
to meet with him. I agree.
Crozet leaders McCrone Yeah.
1:04:49
Macron is just a crony so
interesting. Tim Cook got
1:04:54
stiffed and so didn't Elon Elon
1:04:59
John C Dvorak: today brought
this guy on who do wrote the
1:05:01
book wireless wars, who's an
analyst and he goes off to
1:05:07
discuss interpretations of
what's really going on with
1:05:11
gates and the fact that it
appears that a geisha selling
1:05:15
out the United States is you
want me to go to China to clip
1:05:18
four clips, three clips, three
giant, I put four is got
1:05:23
wireless words that to remove I
forgot to put on a clip to
1:05:26
remind me who to say this guy
was alright, so here we go. So
1:05:29
Bill
1:05:29
Unknown: Gates is in China, he
met with Xi Jinping, who
1:05:31
actually called him his first
American friend that he met in
1:05:35
Beijing. What do you make of
this close relationship, though?
1:05:39
A friend of China is a term that
is not actually complimentary
1:05:44
term a friend of China is
someone who is on board with
1:05:46
China's objectives and goals is
aligned is in harmony with what
1:05:51
China is trying to achieve when
it's just the ego stroking and
1:05:54
the alignment, which is probably
what the case is with Bill
1:05:58
Gates. They become a friend of
China. And it's, it's sad, it's
1:06:04
not necessarily a good thing,
because when you look at who
1:06:07
you're aligning yourself with,
it's really a friend of the CCP
1:06:11
is what they mean not a friend
to the Chinese people.
1:06:15
Adam Curry: By the way, duck,
duck go. They say we largely
1:06:21
source from Bing.
1:06:24
Unknown: Yeah, well, it's
probably true. But the word
1:06:27
largely as the CO operative.
Yeah. And
1:06:29
Adam Curry: the rest is
Wikipedia. Oh, that sounds good.
1:06:35
Unknown: I think they get a lot
of stuff from Google, even
1:06:37
though like I'm sure they
1:06:38
Adam Curry: do and TripAdvisor
music Max.
1:06:46
Okay, so he's friends with CCP.
1:06:49
John C Dvorak: Yeah, just as
gay. So let's go to clip four
1:06:51
when you wrap this.
1:06:52
Unknown: And on that note, it
seems China has been rolling out
1:06:55
this red carpet for businesses,
especially business leaders. We
1:06:58
saw Elon Musk there, Jamie Dimon
with JPMorgan Chase, and then
1:07:02
giving kind of the cold shoulder
to the White House. What do you
1:07:05
make of that kind of message
coming out of China?
1:07:09
It's kind of a funny thing. They
know, they've always known that
1:07:13
the businesses and capitalist
societies are there to make
1:07:16
profits. The government side is
just very different. It's not
1:07:19
pursuing even though commerce
wants growing markets for
1:07:23
American suppliers and good
markets. For vendors to America.
1:07:29
There's a very different agenda
for the for the government.
1:07:34
Adam Curry: Right, so how are
they going to square that with
1:07:36
with our I mean, the business of
America is business. How are
1:07:40
they going to square this saber
rattling? They're doing I have a
1:07:43
clip about China. I
1:07:45
John C Dvorak: will play that
clip. But for i But to answer
1:07:48
your question, I think that
they're not going to square it.
1:07:51
I think this situation is going
to worsen.
1:07:53
Adam Curry: That doesn't sound
like a smart idea. While this is
1:07:56
similar to something you played
on the last show, I think short.
1:08:00
Unknown: Overseas tonight a high
stakes diplomatic mission to
1:08:02
China for a Secretary of State
Antony Blinken. Blinken is
1:08:06
expected to meet with several
Chinese officials over the
1:08:08
weekend. He's the first
Secretary of State to make the
1:08:11
trip in five years. And
President Biden saying today
1:08:14
that he's hoping to meet with
China's President Xi soon is
1:08:18
coming amid escalating tensions
between the two countries.
1:08:22
Adam Curry: So the Biden
administration is just going to
1:08:26
let all these companies rot like
Nah, we're just gonna do
1:08:30
whatever we need to do and screw
you with your business.
1:08:35
John C Dvorak: Well, this other
guy, this, this wireless
1:08:39
Adam Curry: wired wars guider,
1:08:42
John C Dvorak: he goes on about
the supply chain issues that are
1:08:45
going to happen. It was just,
it's hard to just all of a
1:08:49
sudden, I mean, theoretically,
you should just say, Well, screw
1:08:52
China, they're useless. I
stopped doing business with him.
1:08:55
But the problem is everything
for the last 25 or 30 years, has
1:09:01
got China components or this
made in China or no, we're not
1:09:05
pretending that we did it but
it's actually Chinese and we
1:09:09
brought it over. We don't I
mean, you know, the one of the
1:09:15
best things I've heard recently
is listening to Gavin Newsom.
1:09:20
Adam Curry: Sean Hannity.
1:09:21
John C Dvorak: On Hannity. Yeah.
Did you get Hannity? No, I don't
1:09:25
have any clips. I didn't want to
get clips of that. I Hannity was
1:09:29
flat footed. And Newsom was just
lording it over him and making
1:09:35
it sound like California is the
fastest growing juggernaut of a
1:09:41
state and he because he had all
these stats, you know,
1:09:43
statistics lie. So you is like
saying the crime rates in San
1:09:48
Francisco have gone way down.
And you can find stats
1:09:54
Adam Curry: where they have
because the businesses are all
1:09:55
gone. So how can just nothing
1:10:00
John C Dvorak: So they have so
you have this situation. And so
1:10:03
there's an element of denialism
about China, and how they pretty
1:10:09
much own the United States. And
so far as the supply chain is
1:10:12
concerned, and there's nothing
we can do about it, nothing
1:10:16
because we can't crank all this
stuff up, but we do. We I think
1:10:19
we've lost the skill sets that
the Chinese have been developing
1:10:22
the manufacturing that we, you
know, we don't, right, but
1:10:26
Adam Curry: I just don't
understand they're
1:10:27
John C Dvorak: learning about
emotions. They're not learning
1:10:30
how to be a machinist.
1:10:31
Adam Curry: So you're telling me
that all this saber rattling
1:10:34
that we're doing, which is
clearly going to hurt American
1:10:37
business is purely to keep the
power of the White House and
1:10:40
what I mean? What else? What
other reason is there for them
1:10:44
to do this? I can't think of
any, because it just it makes no
1:10:49
sense. No, is it all just ego?
1:10:56
John C Dvorak: And as to be, or
naivete we have to remember you
1:11:00
have a President of the United
States has never worked a day in
1:11:02
his life. He's never worked in a
factory. He's never worked on an
1:11:06
assembly line. He's never worked
as a carpenter. He wasn't
1:11:09
building houses. He wasn't in a
shag metal shop. You got Harry
1:11:13
wasn't even a paperboy from all
I can tell was a lifeguard
1:11:16
Adam Curry: he has hairy legs.
Yeah, he got beat up corn pop.
1:11:23
Well, actually, the ego thing
there may be something to it.
1:11:26
This is short clip. This is a
Korean John Claude Van Damme
1:11:32
Pierre being interviewed because
of course, that's what this is
1:11:36
how Saki ended when they start
doing interviews in there with
1:11:41
you know, with just as somehow
it's kind of sickening for the
1:11:45
press. What was it called? He
spoke tolls are we call them but
1:11:50
what is it
1:11:51
Unknown: press secretary press
secretary,
1:11:52
Adam Curry: secretary press
secretary to be doing interviews
1:11:55
about themselves. It's something
that just isn't something you
1:11:58
just don't do.
1:11:59
John C Dvorak: Maybe it's
exactly what you think, ego,
1:12:03
which is that this is the
strategy to get rid of her. I
1:12:06
mean, you said sock, he started
doing this again. Yeah, well,
1:12:09
okay. This might be the end for
I think she's already violated
1:12:13
the Hatch Act. We haven't talked
about that on the show. Explain
1:12:17
the Hatch Act. It says that, as
a government worker, you cannot
1:12:21
take part in partisan politics,
right. So in other words, if
1:12:25
you're working for the State
Department, you can start
1:12:28
stamping letters and get
reelected as Joe Biden and you
1:12:32
can add dressing envelopes and
sending them off while you're
1:12:34
working there. And she violated
the Hatch Act about I don't know
1:12:38
two or three weeks ago, when she
went off on Magga Republicans
1:12:42
met Megan Magadan, blah, blah.
She went on off on it and
1:12:47
somebody realized that this was
a violation of the Hass Hatch
1:12:51
Act she was doing.
1:12:52
Adam Curry: I have I have it
here. I have a clip he
1:12:54
Unknown: has been clear
democracy is under assault, and
1:12:56
we cannot pretend otherwise. The
President will continue to call
1:13:00
attention to the threat to
democracy, democratic integrity,
1:13:04
and to public safety posed by
those who deny the documented
1:13:09
truth about election results,
and those who seek to undermine
1:13:13
public faith in our system of
government. Unfortunately, we
1:13:17
have seen mega mega Republican
officials who don't believe in
1:13:22
the rule of law. They refuse to
accept the results of free and
1:13:26
fair elections.
1:13:27
Adam Curry: That was it that was
the violation of the Hatch Act,
1:13:30
John C Dvorak: then that was a
clear violation of the Hatch
1:13:33
Act. And she should have been
then they know it they don't
1:13:37
know what to do about it. They
should find her or fire her or
1:13:41
something should be done. But
again, you know, they don't know
1:13:44
what to do because oh god what
are we going to do is so you
1:13:47
can't you can't fire
1:13:48
Adam Curry: her she marks he
checks off too many boxes.
1:13:50
There's no way
1:13:51
John C Dvorak: she'd have to
hire a lesbian My God well,
1:13:54
black lesbian. Hello. Wait,
black lesbian is so rare, he or
1:13:58
she is her 21
1:13:59
Adam Curry: second to reply
about how well you'll hear it a
1:14:02
Unknown: year in this role.
There's been a couple of things
1:14:05
that I that has made me
incredibly proud many things
1:14:09
many things have made me
incredibly proud to be at that
1:14:11
podium during this historic
moment. Again, this is a
1:14:14
historic administration. I'm a
historic figure and I this
1:14:18
glossary everyday but this is
also the historic making
1:14:22
administration because of this
1:14:23
Adam Curry: president I'm a
historic person
1:14:27
John C Dvorak: that is
unprecedented okay, you get a
1:14:29
clip of the day for that.
1:14:30
Adam Curry: Oh, thank you if she
is a historic person everybody
1:14:35
John C Dvorak: unbelievable what
an ego test okay, so she's this
1:14:39
big historic person because
she's a black lesbian. Okay,
1:14:47
from Haiti or wherever the hell
she's from.
1:14:49
Adam Curry: Yes. Someone sent me
a
1:14:53
John C Dvorak: anyway by the way
she but she's in violation of
1:14:55
the Hatch Act she should be
terminated continue to terminate
1:14:59
terminate. Ah, terminate.
1:15:00
Adam Curry: Someone sent me a
passage from 1984. The who
1:15:05
doesn't know it the book by
George Orwell. I think a lot of
1:15:07
people know the book, but I
don't know how many people
1:15:09
actually read it.
1:15:11
John C Dvorak: Great book to
read, I would recommend reading
1:15:13
it. I would say there's a number
of books. I would say reading
1:15:16
that in the Huxley book is
another book you must read. Yes.
1:15:20
Which is what is it called? I
can't even remember. Brave New
1:15:24
World. Brave New World is much
read 1984 is a must must Neopost
1:15:29
Adam Curry: amusing ourselves to
death would also be another one.
1:15:31
It's all in no agenda book.
club.com I think is where we
1:15:34
have all of these.
1:15:34
John C Dvorak: And I would say
if you don't want to read the
1:15:37
1984 book, The movie is good
too. In fact, the movie may be
1:15:41
creepier.
1:15:42
Adam Curry: From the book, the
protagonist Winston Smith says
1:15:46
they had played a similar trick
with the instinct of parenthood,
1:15:49
the family could not actually be
abolished, and indeed, people
1:15:52
were encouraged to be fond of
their children in almost the old
1:15:55
fashioned way. The children on
the other hand, were
1:15:58
systematically turned against
their parents and taught to spy
1:16:01
on them and report their
deviations. The family had
1:16:04
become an effect an extension of
the thought police pronouns
1:16:08
anyone, the antagonist O'Brien.
We have cut the links between
1:16:13
child and parent and between man
and man and between man and
1:16:16
woman, no one dares trust a wife
or child or friend any longer,
1:16:20
but in the future, there will be
no wives and no friends children
1:16:22
will be taken from their mothers
at birth, as one takes eggs from
1:16:25
a hen the sex instincts will be
eradicated. Procreation will be
1:16:29
an annual formality like the
renewal of a ration card. We
1:16:32
shall abolish the orgasm. Our
neurologists are working on it
1:16:36
right now. Telo Elam, there will
be no loyalty except loyalty
1:16:40
towards the party. There'll be
no love except the love of Big
1:16:42
Brother. There'll be no laughter
except the laugh of triumph over
1:16:45
a defeated enemy Maga. There
will be no art no literature, no
1:16:49
science, when we are omnipotent,
we shall have no more need of
1:16:52
science, there'll be no
distinction between beauty and
1:16:54
ugliness. Sound familiar? Now
let's get to work on these
1:17:00
children really early and
disrupt the relationship between
1:17:03
the children and the parents.
Let's get on with the baby bears
1:17:07
on the Cartoon Network. This is
for young kids. Jared Winnie Hey
1:17:15
there, Ryan the great Winifred
she extraordinaire
1:17:26
Unknown: are also the
1:17:28
new addition box they use they
them pronouns
1:17:32
Adam Curry: they give
exceptionally good quiche box
1:17:39
they then pronouns This is not
okay.
1:17:45
John C Dvorak: No, that's good.
There's another good clip not
1:17:49
Adam Curry: okay. And so, you
know, states are cracking down
1:17:53
on it Florida. It's certainly
just for young children. There's
1:17:58
parents should have the right to
determine what their what their
1:18:00
what their children are learning
in school. This is of course not
1:18:04
the the Scholastic opinion and
teachers are quitting now. This
1:18:10
is a report from NBC
1:18:11
Unknown: on the same day that
high school English teacher
1:18:13
Emily Ramseur won an award for
being an outstanding Texas
1:18:17
educator. She stood in front of
the grapevine Colleyville school
1:18:21
district to tell them why she
was among dozens of staff
1:18:24
members resigning this year.
1:18:26
This community has continuously
harassed me for the past few
1:18:29
years, to the point that there
were days I didn't even want to
1:18:32
be alive anymore, much less be a
teacher. So I'm going to listen
1:18:36
to what I am hearing from this
community. Which is that y'all
1:18:39
don't want people like me,
people who might be gay to teach
1:18:43
here.
1:18:44
School districts across the
country are facing a teacher
1:18:46
shortage fueled by burnout and
low pay. But in Texas, Many
1:18:50
blame politics. Last year rams
those districts saw a 40% jump
1:18:55
in resignations and retirements.
After new conservative school
1:18:58
board members pushed to remove
hundreds of books and restrict
1:19:02
lessons about race and LGBTQ
identities.
1:19:05
I've taught these kids for years
to write and to grow their
1:19:09
voices. And I'm not going to let
my actions say something
1:19:12
different.
1:19:13
Ramseur who identifies as queer,
so she was asked to change some
1:19:17
of her lessons and to remove
classroom artwork and rainbow
1:19:20
stickers.
1:19:22
Adam Curry: So what's sad about
this type of reporting is the
1:19:25
way they bring it is they they
make it sound like there's
1:19:29
hatred against
1:19:31
John C Dvorak: your sympathetic
toward the poor, almost gay
1:19:33
teacher and whatever pain area
whatever she is, who's crying on
1:19:37
the screen. He's crying on the
on the set. And, yeah, that's
1:19:42
the way it's presented. It's
slanted presentation. Classic
1:19:45
news. Yeah. Which has a
perspective.
1:19:49
Adam Curry: They bring in
politics, of course, and this is
1:19:52
the this is the poison she
1:19:54
John C Dvorak: had to take her
stickers down on her. And they
1:19:57
banned and the book banning and
there was generalized So it
1:20:00
sounds like they're banning, you
know, everything.
1:20:02
Adam Curry: Yes. And so this is
political. And it's obvious. You
1:20:06
know, it's Texas and I talk
about laws. And what this hat
1:20:09
what happens is with the under
educated over socialized
1:20:13
individuals that the entire
world is full of this is not
1:20:16
just America, but it's really
prevalent here. You get, you get
1:20:22
people really believing that
they are hated. I mean, that's
1:20:27
what she said, you know, they,
they don't like people like me.
1:20:31
I don't think that's ever been
said. It's like, you know, she
1:20:33
actually said in that clip, I'm
here to teach the children had a
1:20:36
right and to grow their voices.
What No, you're not here to grow
1:20:40
their voices. I disagree. That
that's not what you're here to
1:20:45
do. But okay, grow your voices.
They just it turns into the
1:20:50
second grader. It turns into the
need, it turns into this
1:20:54
horrible hatred for each other.
And I mean, this clip on C span
1:20:59
Washington journal really
exemplifies poor news reporting,
1:21:06
or I shouldn't say poor it's
actually excellent news. What
1:21:08
they're doing on in the news,
which is, in general, mainstream
1:21:12
news is run by the Democrat
Party of America. This is what
1:21:19
they want. This is how they want
to communicate it because it's
1:21:23
going to get more of America
sympathetic to vote Democrat. I
1:21:26
guess that's the idea. And this
is the result of it.
1:21:29
Unknown: This is Laura Kelly. I
believe in Galveston, Texas
1:21:33
independent Good morning.
1:21:37
In their morning, there, I'm
just gonna say that, you know,
1:21:41
if I'm gonna be straight with
you as I can be, I'm a lesbian
1:21:44
so it's gonna be kind of hard
but a wake up America, maybe
1:21:48
Republicans are falling to not
do it. They are Nazis. They're
1:21:51
calling for genocide on trans
people like myself. Every year
1:21:55
to hear in the morning who's
been calling so far has been
1:21:57
nothing but calls for my death.
They have listening to good
1:22:01
college, but most of the
Republicans have been calling
1:22:03
from my desk. They are saying I
don't have a right now she does
1:22:07
the one corsets hit me over the
head with brown pants. He is a
1:22:10
Nazi and he does not want me
here. All right, well,
1:22:13
hold off on the Nazi references.
This is Steven.
1:22:17
Adam Curry: Finally, you know,
there's someone who is
1:22:20
convinced, convinced that
Republicans are Nazis, all of
1:22:25
them and they want this person
dead. And there's just no
1:22:28
evidence of this. There's no
evidence of it, but it's the way
1:22:32
the News brings it. Like the
battle brewing over trans
1:22:36
rights.
1:22:37
Unknown: This morning. Columbus
is preparing to welcome an
1:22:39
estimated 700,000 people to his
annual Pride Parade while a
1:22:43
battle is brewing just blocks
away at all at the Ohio State
1:22:46
House over the future of trans
rights fields. The Republican
1:22:49
controlled legislature is
considering a number of bills
1:22:51
impacting trans youth, one
called HB 68 would make it
1:22:55
illegal for doctors to provide
gender affirming care for trans
1:22:58
minors, including prescribing
puberty blockers or hormones.
1:23:02
That one definitely concerns me
considering I am actively on the
1:23:05
waiting list for getting puberty
1:23:07
blockers 11 year old Michael
ferrea has identified as a boy
1:23:11
for years now his parents say
puberty blockers are needed to
1:23:14
essentially allow him to pause
his development for now.
1:23:17
It makes me uncomfortable that I
having to go through feminine
1:23:22
puberty
1:23:23
I used to be 68 is to save
adolescents from
1:23:25
experimentation.
1:23:27
Republican state representative
Gary click is the primary
1:23:29
sponsor of this bill he also
touted would ban doctors from
1:23:32
performing gender reassignment
surgery on a minor something
1:23:36
opponents argue isn't happening
in Ohio.
1:23:38
I've done a lot of research I've
talked to a lot of professionals
1:23:41
on this our side gets ignored in
this we have the science is
1:23:45
on our side, but the American
Academy of Pediatrics now listen
1:23:48
Adam Curry: to this, listen to
their studies and tell me what
1:23:50
the common thing is about the
science the studies that they
1:23:54
have published
1:23:54
Unknown: a study finding
transgender teens who were given
1:23:57
puberty blockers experienced
superior mental health outcomes
1:24:00
compared to those who wanted the
medication but didn't receive
1:24:03
it. And a 2022 study concluded
transgender and non binary youth
1:24:07
with access to gender affirming
care had 60% lower odds of
1:24:11
moderate or severe depression.
1:24:13
I certainly wish them the best
and all of you I love these
1:24:16
kids. I care about these kids.
And I'm not trying to run
1:24:19
people's lives.
1:24:19
The furries have accepted that
HB 68 may become law. They say
1:24:24
that's why for many in the LGBTQ
community, this year's pride
1:24:28
celebration has turned into a
call to action,
1:24:31
although it will hurt the trans
community. It is not going to
1:24:35
make us D transition or just pop
out of existence. I guess they
1:24:41
aren't necessarily getting rid
of us.
1:24:44
Adam Curry: So there's another
child being abused by the media
1:24:49
to be a spokesperson and the
same message then no, we're not
1:24:53
going to disappear. They're not
going to get rid of us. We're
1:24:56
not just going to go away. These
are all very very hurtful.
1:25:00
messages this child has been
filled fed with. And all these
1:25:03
studies do not go back any
further than 2019. That's the
1:25:06
oldest they have. And the
science is clearly not settled
1:25:11
on the long term effects and and
just the words that are being
1:25:16
used battle, you know, Boch
right to existence. All this
1:25:20
stuff is bad. We have a number
of, of emails, which I'm not
1:25:24
going to read, I've cleared it
with. Well, with all of them to
1:25:29
put them in the show notes, I
would say specifically read
1:25:32
Alexa, who's trans producer of
the no agenda show in Chechnya,
1:25:37
but who went through the same
as, as now are our night who was
1:25:43
a dame who D transitioned. And
Alex is 40, you know, had to go
1:25:49
through almost three years, you
know, at older at an older age
1:25:54
to be able to do all the
transitioning the medical
1:25:56
transitioning, and agrees that
it's insane what is happening
1:26:00
right now. And it's clearly
happening for political reasons.
1:26:05
Another one from I think you
read this one, the boots on the
1:26:08
ground fleeing California to
save a child's life, you
1:26:11
probably read that one where
this mother single mom
1:26:15
completely went in all in the
program in Berkeley, and her and
1:26:19
her st. Her son became, was
identifying as a girl. And then
1:26:25
once they didn't want to accept
the vaccine into the life, they
1:26:28
were kicked out of the group,
they were no good anymore. So
1:26:30
they left left for a new
interesting coincidence. Yes.
1:26:35
You know, my body, right? Left
for New England. And once you
1:26:40
know, away from the therapists,
the the, the boy felt like a boy
1:26:46
again,
1:26:47
Unknown: and was like, Oh, he's
playing football. Yeah.
1:26:51
Adam Curry: So those are in the
show notes worth looking at just
1:26:53
as counterprogramming to all of
this. But there's something
1:26:57
happened that I need to
highlight because I give the
1:26:59
pivot people a lot of crap. And
and actually, this has nothing
1:27:04
to do with Kara Swisher, because
she is still a horrible person.
1:27:07
And I'm not going to play her
retort to this. But Scott,
1:27:11
Professor Galloway, who I just
in the last show called non
1:27:15
Ma'am, I have to say, I gotta
give him props. He may be the
1:27:18
canary in the coal mine, he may
be waking up, it seems like he
1:27:22
has his head screwed on right
when it comes to trans athletes,
1:27:26
and I need to play this, just to
balance out all the crap I give
1:27:29
them.
1:27:30
Unknown: So I think the tweet
was on the last step
1:27:32
by saying first of all, you're
not transphobic I thought this
1:27:35
was a stupid tweet, but you are
not transphobic. Go ahead.
1:27:38
Go ahead. Go ahead. Thanks.
1:27:42
Wow, all you transphobic
1:27:45
Adam Curry: that's, that's
exactly what she does. You know,
1:27:47
he sent out a tweet, and he got
a lot of crap for it. And she'll
1:27:50
just, here's my opinion, here's
my opinion. Here's my opinion.
1:27:52
Go ahead. I'm gonna play that
again. So you can hear it in
1:27:55
context. So
1:27:56
Unknown: I think the tweet was
on the last step
1:27:58
by saying first of all, you're
not transphobic I thought this
1:28:00
was a stupid tweet, but you are
not transphobic. Go ahead.
1:28:04
Thanks, I'm
1:28:07
calling you transphobic. That
was
1:28:09
a go to your transphobic. So
Austin, kill UPS a trans woman
1:28:13
one, the Belgian waffle race on
Saturday, that's 131 mile course
1:28:18
runs through the Blue Ridge
Mountains. And the number two
1:28:22
rider came in four and a half
minutes behind her. And when my
1:28:27
tweet was, and I hope it'll get
wrong, because obviously Twitter
1:28:31
isn't a place for nuance. I said
that unless Democrats condemn
1:28:36
trans women athletes competing
at elite at this elite level, it
1:28:41
will impair our ability to
advocate for transgender rights.
1:28:46
Adam Curry: Now, notice here, he
says Democrats just notice that
1:28:50
everything with these people is
politically motivated. He says
1:28:54
Democrats what he meant is
liberals. But he said Democrats
1:28:58
Unknown: and I think what's
happening here care is that in
1:29:01
an attempt to be empathetic, and
attempt to fight for the rights
1:29:06
of a group that has been
marginalized, and has been
1:29:08
persecuted. In my view, we have
kind of lost our minds and
1:29:13
ideologically the snake is
eating its own tail. Now, what
1:29:16
do I mean by that? If you think
about male physiology, I mean,
1:29:22
when it comes right down to is,
is if you look at most studies
1:29:25
to summarize them, men are
physically stronger. Women are
1:29:29
emotionally and mentally
stronger, even at a childhood
1:29:32
age, like girls, girls can
survive divorce, with much
1:29:36
better outcomes than boys. But
anyways, there's just no
1:29:39
comparison. And what we have
decided to do when we let people
1:29:46
who are born as males compete in
these races after they have gone
1:29:52
through puberty where you pour
testosterone over a bigger,
1:29:56
larger muscle mass and greater
bone density and skeletal
1:30:00
infrastructure. I think you end
up with the misogyny. And that
1:30:04
is that the entire world of
elite sports, all of the
1:30:09
camaraderie, all of the money,
all of the scholarships, all of
1:30:13
the relevance, all of the
accolades, the confidence, all
1:30:16
of these wonderful things are
about to be slowly but surely
1:30:20
sequestered to one group. And
that is people born with
1:30:23
penises, unless we have at a
certain level involving money,
1:30:28
and scholarships, unless we say,
look, a lot are either born with
1:30:33
a vagina, or you're going to
play or you're going to be in
1:30:37
another separate category. But
the notion that we are going to
1:30:41
start having people with pets
six foot five, and the wingspan
1:30:45
of Michael Phelps who by the way
still have a penis and testicles
1:30:48
compete in the NC to a swim
meet. This is nothing but us
1:30:54
going way too far in in a
misguided attempt to say to get
1:30:58
our bone a fetus around
progressiveness are hurting
1:31:02
women, and there needs to be
some nuance here.
1:31:05
Okay, I get that. Go ahead.
1:31:06
Can I anyways, I just can
immediately people start calling
1:31:10
you transphobic. They did. And
I'm like, this isn't transphobic
1:31:13
you know, who I'm advocating
for? Not only women, but I'm
1:31:17
advocating I believe our ability
to advocate for the LGBTQ
1:31:20
community and the transgender
community is diminished. Because
1:31:25
people people think, well, I
this hateful transgender
1:31:28
legislation is ridiculous and
stupid. But the Democrats have
1:31:32
lost their fucking minds.
1:31:34
Adam Curry: So yes, now the
thing that was I don't have the
1:31:37
clip for you, because it just I
can't. Kara Swisher then goes on
1:31:43
to say over eight minutes? Well,
the difference is, you're a
1:31:47
Democrat, the Republicans, they
really hate trans people, they
1:31:51
really hate the LGBT community.
These people are so brainwashed,
1:31:58
that they don't believe the
exact same words, you and I
1:32:01
could have both said this, who
would have said it more
1:32:03
succinctly. And shorter. We
could have said that. We said
1:32:06
John C Dvorak: we probably have
said it. Yeah. And years ago.
1:32:10
Adam Curry: It's like, this
makes no sense. You just can't
1:32:13
say that as someone who likes
free speech, or is branded as,
1:32:19
as a Republican or Magga. These
people are some of the most
1:32:23
bigoted people in the world. And
they really need to check
1:32:28
themselves, but good on
Professor Scott. He Prof. G. I'm
1:32:32
sorry. He, he at least sees that
this is not a good idea. I
1:32:38
thought that was a breakthrough.
1:32:41
Unknown: Yeah. It was a
breakthrough breakthrough.
1:32:51
Adam Curry: It was a
breakthrough. Totally. He had a
1:32:54
moment of clarity.
1:32:56
John C Dvorak: Hey, wait a
minute, moment of clarity is not
1:32:59
a breakthrough.
1:33:00
Adam Curry: Okay. Good point.
1:33:03
John C Dvorak: I mean, the logic
is there. I mean, I was
1:33:05
listening to care and TV news
the other day and they and one
1:33:10
of the news readers just blurted
out said, well, the transgender
1:33:16
athlete, they're saying it's
they have a distinctive
1:33:20
advantage over the female
athlete. Yeah. And then she's
1:33:25
just says there's no evidence of
this.
1:33:29
Adam Curry: Yeah. They're so
afraid of losing their job.
1:33:34
That's it. They're just afraid.
But I don't
1:33:38
John C Dvorak: think so. I
disagree with that. Again, I've
1:33:40
done this before with you on
this particular topic. Where
1:33:43
it's not fear, it's sincerity.
Well, they really believe this
1:33:47
stuff.
1:33:48
Adam Curry: Yeah. Well, okay. I
think that if in fact, there was
1:33:54
a
1:33:55
John C Dvorak: Kara's not
insincere.
1:33:57
Adam Curry: You're right. You're
right. She's
1:34:00
Unknown: not she's not afraid.
That's for sure. No, she's
1:34:02
Adam Curry: not well, she got
money from her divorce. So she
1:34:05
got no problem there. It was,
was that there was some study.
1:34:11
It's true.
1:34:12
Unknown: Something you always
throw that little nut della jibe
1:34:15
in their ear.
1:34:16
Adam Curry: When you have money.
Like you know, hey, let me sell
1:34:18
curry.com for $10 million. Watch
me go off the rails. Watch this
1:34:23
show change
1:34:24
Unknown: the show. It'd be
great.
1:34:28
Adam Curry: Insulting everybody.
I have no clips but lots of
1:34:33
stories in the UK. Headlines
headlines headlines. Fresh
1:34:39
warning of deadly new virus
surfaces. virus which kills one
1:34:45
person a second likely to be
heading to UK scientists say
1:34:50
urgent warning after outbreak of
one of the world's deadliest
1:34:53
diseases after man dies in
Namibia and my favorite new
1:34:59
deadly virus is highly likely to
arrive in the UK in latest
1:35:03
climate change warning. So now
that headline, oh, there's your
1:35:06
connection. That's the one I
like. So I'm like, What is this?
1:35:10
Yeah, so I'll bring up this this
is from the mirror, which is
1:35:13
another fine, outstanding.
1:35:15
Unknown: Another fine standing
publication be proud
1:35:17
Adam Curry: of deadly virus that
is killing nearly 50% of
1:35:21
patients is highly likely.
That's that's your climate
1:35:25
change language to arrive in the
UK, along with other illnesses
1:35:28
spread by insects, which are
marching north due to climate
1:35:33
change.
1:35:34
John C Dvorak: The six are
marching north from climate
1:35:36
change
1:35:37
Adam Curry: across across the
English Channel even they're
1:35:39
just marching north. They're
swimming, they're swimming.
1:35:42
John C Dvorak: It's a good movie
for people out there want to see
1:35:44
something like this is also was
a radio play. I think it's a
1:35:47
Roger, I think it's read you
read your Kipling. Rudyard
1:35:51
Kipling. Yes. Called the naked
the movies called the naked
1:35:56
jungle. Net is about. It's a
great movie. It's about these
1:36:01
giant army ants marching north,
eating everything in their way.
1:36:06
It's tyrannized film.
1:36:08
Adam Curry: Well, they're
marching north towards the UK
1:36:10
and they're going to swim,
apparently, now
1:36:13
John C Dvorak: as army ants.
Yeah, they did. They had to swim
1:36:16
across the rivers.
1:36:18
Adam Curry: Well, the English
Channel is not just a river.
1:36:22
Hey, get there. Let me tell you
about this, about this disease.
1:36:25
It has a great name. They go
through
1:36:27
John C Dvorak: the channel that
they can just crawl crawl
1:36:29
across. They go through the
channel. There you go. Yeah, no,
1:36:33
the who's gonna stop them.
1:36:34
Adam Curry: This is cchf cchf.
It has a snappy acronym. And it
1:36:41
has everything you want in
there. It's the Crimean Congo
1:36:45
hemorrhagic fever. So you've got
a little bit of Russia in there,
1:36:50
you know, Crimea, Congo, Congo
1:36:51
John C Dvorak: hemorrhagic
fever, which is a bola and more
1:36:55
fans I guess we're not Marfan
says the other one Marburg,
1:36:58
Marburg, Marburg, Marburg are
fences with Lincoln
1:37:03
Adam Curry: Francis Marburg,
1:37:04
John C Dvorak: you got that. You
got Crimea, you got hemorrhagic
1:37:07
and Congo. Yep, you
1:37:08
Adam Curry: got it all. Wow,
symptoms. Great moniker.
1:37:11
symptoms may include fever,
muscle pains, headaches, and
1:37:14
John C Dvorak: it's caused by
bugs. Yes, the same bugs, maybe
1:37:19
Adam Curry: the cchf virus is
typically spread by tick bites,
1:37:22
or close contact with the blood
secretions, organs, or other
1:37:26
bodily fluids of infected
persons or animals. So, you
1:37:30
know, like it spreads like
monkey virus ticks. groups that
1:37:34
are at highest risk of infection
are farmers. And those who work
1:37:39
in slaughterhouses the virus can
also spread between people via
1:37:42
body fluids. Hello gays. You
Thought Monkey virus was
1:37:47
interesting. diagnosis can be
made by the
1:37:51
John C Dvorak: way you citing
gays in this case. heterosexual
1:37:56
couples have body photos. No,
1:37:58
Adam Curry: no monkey monkey pox
only went through between men
1:38:02
who have sex with men. Do I have
to remind you of this fact fact.
1:38:07
Monkey virus only spread between
men who have sex with men. Now
1:38:14
diagnosis can be made by
detecting antibodies. The virus
1:38:19
is RNA. Hmm. Get in there, or
viral proteins. So now of course
1:38:28
there are no FDA or who approved
therapeutics yet. No, no, no, we
1:38:35
can't have therapeutics. You
gotta get a vaccine. If there's
1:38:37
therapeutic you can't have it.
Well,
1:38:38
John C Dvorak: I'm getting my
things mixed up right
1:38:41
therapeutics are
1:38:41
Adam Curry: getting ahead of it
getting ahead of it. In the past
1:38:45
20 years, cch F outbreaks have
been reported in Eastern Europe,
1:38:51
particularly in the former
Soviet Union.
1:38:54
Unknown: Bastards back bastards
Civ Russians
1:38:57
Adam Curry: bastards. Yeah, this
one's got legs. I think it's got
1:39:02
legs. There's no clips yet, but
they're coming. They're coming.
1:39:07
Keep your eye on cchf. Jeff,
1:39:12
John C Dvorak: is when too many
letters.
1:39:14
Adam Curry: I feel good about
it. I do I feel good about this
1:39:16
one. It's one to many. I think
Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever.
1:39:21
cchf I can just see it cchf Me
in Congo hemorrhagic fever.
1:39:27
BCCH.
1:39:29
Cch can probably do that. I like
it. I like it. It's got
1:39:34
everything in there. And you
bleed out through your butt and
1:39:39
your eyeballs.
1:39:40
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah, that's
you have to bleed out through
1:39:42
your eyeballs Yeah,
1:39:43
Adam Curry: otherwise it's just
no good it's no good rather not
1:39:49
all right. All right. Do we have
the mean I've got Russia.
1:39:58
Unknown: I got some Ukraine. I
got low Ukraine. Yeah,
1:40:00
Adam Curry: let's do some I got
some Ukraine stuff too
1:40:03
John C Dvorak: that this is the
one that I only have two clips.
1:40:05
You can play the rest of them
plays out with yours but
1:40:09
Adam Curry: Whoa, you okay, what
happened there? Okay. Oh, we
1:40:15
have a podcaster down, John.
Hello. Oh, what happened here
1:40:21
something happened.
1:40:22
Unknown: Test test test.
1:40:23
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah, let me
see.
1:40:25
Unknown: Okay this should be
good right here.
1:40:27
Adam Curry: Yes it's interesting
I already got a Darren O'Neal
1:40:29
sent his resume.
1:40:31
Unknown: Yeah
1:40:34
yeah that bastard I knew he
would
1:40:38
Adam Curry: like hey, man, I can
do the show as easy as
1:40:40
Unknown: that they're ready.
1:40:43
Adam Curry: All right, Ukraine
back to Ukraine clips. I'm glad
1:40:47
everything's okay. That always
scares me a little.
1:40:50
John C Dvorak: It's kind of
works in that it fell away. It
1:40:52
did. Yeah. But now I know that
you reset the clean feed right
1:40:56
away. Okay. I wish you wouldn't
have been off. I wouldn't have
1:40:58
been dead for two minutes
instead of
1:41:01
Adam Curry: 30 seconds. Sorry.
Well, it's all good. We're all
1:41:03
back to normal all systems.
1:41:05
John C Dvorak: Okay. This is
really annoying. And this is the
1:41:08
push to NATO leaders. Sorry,
talked a lot about your
1:41:13
Adam Curry: wish to NATO
1:41:14
Unknown: leaders from all 31
NATO member nations will hold
1:41:17
their annual summit next month
in Vilnius, Lithuania. Ahead of
1:41:21
that some members and Ukrainian
president Volodymyr Zelensky are
1:41:25
stepping up their calls for
Ukraine to join the military
1:41:28
alliance. Ali Rogen has the
details.
1:41:31
Poland's parliament today passed
a resolution supporting
1:41:33
Ukraine's admission to NATO.
Ukraine in NATO was a
1:41:37
contentious issue long before
the war began. And it has only
1:41:40
accelerated since then. We have
now our own debate on when or
1:41:44
whether Ukraine should be
invited into NATO. Charles
1:41:47
caption served on the National
Security Council staff during
1:41:50
the Obama and Clinton
administrations. He's now a
1:41:52
senior fellow at the Council on
Foreign Relations and a
1:41:55
Georgetown University professor
and Evelyn Farkas was Deputy
1:41:58
Assistant Secretary of Defense
for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia.
1:42:02
During the Obama administration.
She's now the executive director
1:42:06
of the McCain institute at
Arizona State University.
1:42:09
Welcome back to you both.
Evelyn. I want to begin with you
1:42:12
you support Ukraine becoming a
member of NATO now,
1:42:15
why Ukraine has earned it. First
of all, we gave you credit in a
1:42:19
political agreement back when
the international community took
1:42:22
their nuclear weapons that we
would defend them if they were
1:42:25
invaded. And the countries that
were supposed to defend Ukraine
1:42:30
did defend Ukraine to some
extent, but not to the extent
1:42:34
that Ukraine expected since then
Ukraine has been fighting to
1:42:37
uphold the international order
the principles of the sanctity
1:42:40
of borders, which Russia has
violated repeatedly. And frankly
1:42:44
speaking, they are now the most
capable, the largest, most in
1:42:47
NATO interoperable, battle
hardened, capable military on
1:42:51
the European continent. So from
a military perspective, they've
1:42:54
also earned it,
1:42:55
Adam Curry: they've earned it,
it's fair and square, they
1:42:58
deserve it.
1:43:00
John C Dvorak: A couple of
things in there. First of all,
1:43:02
she's with the McCain institute
at ASU. Yeah,
1:43:05
Adam Curry: danger Will Robinson
McCain, who went in there with
1:43:10
Vicki and with Lindy Hop, Lady
G. Graham. And now cookies, the
1:43:14
whole my Don group 2014. They
they they made a coup happen.
1:43:22
John C Dvorak: And secondly, the
this idea that these the nuclear
1:43:29
weapons that were taken out of
Ukraine, were Russian there
1:43:32
weren't they weren't made
daring. Yes, there were a bunch
1:43:37
of Russian nukes that were
positioned. They were position
1:43:41
there, they were not really
owned by Ukraine if we became a
1:43:44
sovereign nation, and so they
had to pull them out. They just
1:43:47
had to because it was be
dangerous as per proliferation
1:43:50
just to let these things exist.
And it had nothing to do with
1:43:54
them protecting themselves with
nukes. So this bullcrap, so
1:43:59
let's turn the tables and ask
the guy who's the Council on
1:44:02
Foreign Relations is your
Georgetown, Professor Bob about
1:44:06
the whole thing to get an
official the official take
1:44:10
because I think he would be the
one with a with a would be a
1:44:14
mouthpiece for the intelligence
groups, as opposed to this crazy
1:44:18
woman who just by the way, this
went on for the night to have
1:44:22
clips of and she just goes nuts
about Yeah, good. They earned
1:44:26
her we should go load him up and
we should we are gonna do
1:44:30
anything.
1:44:31
Adam Curry: Their meanings.
1:44:34
Unknown: All right, Charles, to
you. What's your response? Has
1:44:37
Ukraine earned it?
1:44:38
I'm all for helping Ukraine and
doing our best to enable Ukraine
1:44:43
to recover as much of its
territory as possible, hopefully
1:44:46
all of its territory. But I part
ways with Evelyn on the question
1:44:51
of whether NATO should open its
doors and offer membership to
1:44:55
Ukraine. At this point,
President Biden his NATO allies
1:44:59
are helping Ukraine defend
itself. But they're not going to
1:45:02
war to defend Ukraine, in part
because they've made a judgment
1:45:07
that they're not ready to see
NATO go to war with Russia, risk
1:45:11
World War Three over Ukraine.
And we need to keep in mind that
1:45:15
if NATO does admit Ukraine, and
a single bomb were to fall on
1:45:20
Keith, we would have a treaty
based obligation to go to war
1:45:23
with Russia. Secondly, I think
that we see that this is a war
1:45:29
that is going to go on for a
long time. We don't know how to
1:45:31
how it will end. We need to keep
open the prospect for some sort
1:45:36
of ceasefire, perhaps an RMS
system in which we might need
1:45:39
Russia to play ball much harder
to get them to play ball. Two
1:45:43
final reasons. One is there's no
consensus in NATO about mitting
1:45:48
Ukraine. NATO strongest suit
right now is its unity. And I
1:45:52
don't think we want to interject
this debate right before the
1:45:55
summit in July and go into that
summit with disunity.
1:46:02
Adam Curry: Ah, see the disunity
right there in the program?
1:46:06
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so you have
the official that's I consider
1:46:10
that the official opinion. Dan,
long time. So in other words,
1:46:15
there's no do not get in NATO at
the at this point. There's no
1:46:19
way and this war is going on
forever. So get your pocketbooks
1:46:23
out.
1:46:25
Adam Curry: Luckily, NPR is
going to give us a breakdown of
1:46:30
how the spring offensive is
going. Did you know it was well
1:46:32
underway? John's spring
offensive? Spring Offensive is
1:46:35
raucous
1:46:35
John C Dvorak: I understand yes,
the spring of it is well
1:46:38
underway and the Ukrainians are
kicking butt.
1:46:41
Adam Curry: Well. Listen to
this. Just the beginning. Like a
1:46:45
minute and a half of this report
from NPR. My buddy Dave Jones
1:46:48
sent this to me. Now just
imagine they're reporting on a
1:46:52
soccer match cranes plans for a
spring offensive as spring turns
1:46:56
to summer, where does this
effort stand?
1:46:58
Unknown: Well, are you at this
point, we're a little bit over a
1:47:00
week into it. It's limited
progress, very tough going. The
1:47:05
Russian troops are dug in, and
they're waiting with minefields
1:47:08
and trenches and airpower. Every
village is being contested. The
1:47:14
Ukrainians are trying to advance
along three separate lines, one
1:47:17
to the east, two to the
southeast, they're probably
1:47:20
doing best in this sort of
middle line. They're working
1:47:22
their way down a small river,
and they've taken several
1:47:25
villages along the way. Overall,
the Ukrainian military says
1:47:28
they've taken about roughly 40
square miles. So they are moving
1:47:33
forward. But it's a slow pace,
and they have not approached any
1:47:36
of the key towns or cities that
they'll need to really make this
1:47:40
a success. So Tom,
1:47:42
what are you hearing about the
additional support that might be
1:47:44
coming to Ukraine from the US?
1:47:47
Adam Curry: Yes, we're getting
the other teams update here.
1:47:51
John C Dvorak: So we have
they've taken 40 square miles.
1:47:54
Yes. 40
1:47:55
Adam Curry: miles of through the
middle line, the left line, the
1:47:58
Unknown: no towns is just 40
miles of empty fields. That's
1:48:02
Adam Curry: right. That's right.
And there's more coming 40 miles
1:48:05
of raw land, and it's all about
land.
1:48:10
Unknown: Okay. Yeah. All right,
1:48:13
to really make this a success.
Tommy,
1:48:15
Tom, what are you hearing that
might be coming to Ukraine from
1:48:19
the US and other allies.
1:48:21
As you noted, there was a
meeting in Brussels and the US
1:48:23
and its allies pledged more air
defense weapons. And that's of
1:48:27
course vital because Russia
continues to hammer Ukrainian
1:48:30
cities, or missiles for the
Patriot batteries and other
1:48:34
energy. So air defense systems,
also more tanks, armored
1:48:37
vehicles, shoulder fired
missiles now bringing it all
1:48:39
Russian tanks. And finally,
there are plans they announced
1:48:43
to train Ukrainian pilots on the
F 16. Or plane in Denmark and
1:48:47
the Netherlands sometime this
summer, but no word on when and
1:48:51
how many of the aircraft will
actually get to Ukraine. And
1:48:55
that has annoyed Ukrainian
officials and some defense
1:48:58
analysts who said we need these
planes much earlier. Now you're
1:49:02
looking at probably sometime
next year
1:49:04
Adam Curry: defense analysts.
They're angry because we can't
1:49:07
get new gear fast enough. We
need to spend spend spend. So
1:49:12
yeah, this is going to be a very
long spending process. I think
1:49:15
you're completely right. You can
call it a war, clearly about 40
1:49:20
miles of turf.
1:49:21
Unknown: But it's your turf. 40
miles a golf course.
1:49:25
Adam Curry: It's just here to
empty our pockets into the
1:49:28
military industrial complex and
enter the spy spook master
1:49:32
Richard Engel who has an
exclusive one on one one on one
1:49:37
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this guy
was on you know I've been seeing
1:49:41
him on and off I wish I had some
clips but yeah, I'm glad you got
1:49:44
him
1:49:44
Adam Curry: actually. No, we
have clip custodians. We have
1:49:48
clip collectors this clip
collector Steve I think and he
1:49:51
got two clips of the one on one
1:49:54
Unknown: Ukraine tonight is in a
full scale fight to take back
1:49:57
Russian
1:49:57
Adam Curry: listen to the sound
effects are groovy Hey, this is
1:50:00
how you do report people put
some machine gunfire in Ukraine
1:50:03
tonight
1:50:04
Unknown: is in a full scale
fight to take back Russian
1:50:07
occupied land.
1:50:09
John C Dvorak: Does he have a
gun battery behind him? What's
1:50:11
the deal? Yeah, this
1:50:12
Adam Curry: is what you do is
called B roll.
1:50:15
Unknown: pivotal moment for our
interview with Ukrainian
1:50:16
president Volodymyr Zelensky. At
the presidential compound didn t
1:50:20
and we are now in the early days
of this long anticipated counter
1:50:25
offensive. Yes.
1:50:26
Adam Curry: How's it going?
Yeah, no more than once. She
1:50:28
did. Well, wait a minute. Wait a
minute. I thought it was an
1:50:31
offensive. I thought was the
spring offense. Is it always
1:50:34
been counter offensive? Did I
did I misunderstand that? You
1:50:40
mentioned it. I thought it was
the spring offensive. Not
1:50:43
John C Dvorak: that I thought it
was offensive to but and we
1:50:45
could be wrong. We could better
but it could have been it kind
1:50:47
of offensive maybe a term they
used in there. All right. Well,
1:50:50
well.
1:50:50
Adam Curry: It's a pivotal
moment
1:50:52
Unknown: Ukrainian president
Volodymyr Zelensky at the
1:50:54
presidential compound didn t and
we are now in the early days of
1:50:58
this long anticipated counter
offensive. How's it going? Yeah,
1:51:03
no
1:51:03
more than once you did that
level, but I cannot give you all
1:51:05
the details. We're both
defensive and offensive actions.
1:51:12
That things look not bad. Not
bad, generally positive.
1:51:18
Adam Curry: Not Bad Things look
bad. I love how NBC got this. I
1:51:24
mean, surely they have better
translators on stuff. It seems
1:51:28
odd that you would choose this
guy but me it's just me. So
1:51:30
Unknown: defensive and offensive
actions is for a reason.
1:51:34
Adam Curry: Always. Everything's
for a reason. What do you think?
1:51:36
Okay, well,
1:51:36
John C Dvorak: it would stylist.
Think about this because this
1:51:39
guy is dynamite. He's got the
deep accent. He sounds like some
1:51:44
sort of Boris guy from Akari.
He's cartoony is very cartoony
1:51:48
Adam Curry: things going bad,
bad, bad, bad. Would you like
1:51:51
some borscht? I'm sorry,
1:51:56
Unknown: that things look not
bad. I would say is generally
1:52:01
positive. But it's difficult,
oh, national declaration, our
1:52:05
heroic people, our troops, who
are now at the front of the
1:52:10
frontline might are facing very
tough resistance. You understand
1:52:16
why she pro rata because for
Russia to lose this campaign to
1:52:20
Ukraine. Separate I would say
actually means losing the world.
1:52:27
President Solinsky also had a
dire warning, he blamed Russia
1:52:30
for blowing up a dam which
Russia denies flooding dozens of
1:52:34
villages and tells us the next
Russian target is the Zapper
1:52:38
Reja nuclear power plant.
1:52:41
Russia does want to blow up the
station.
1:52:43
Why would they want to do that?
1:52:47
Adam Curry: Why? Why would they
want to do that? No. For the
1:52:49
same reason they blew up the
dam. Of course, that makes
1:52:51
nothing but sense, don't we?
1:52:53
Unknown: Because like with them,
they are not interested in
1:52:57
Ukraine. Securities like
Ukraine. visibility's they
1:53:03
always need instability here and
wants the role to pressure
1:53:07
Ukraine to stop the conflict
complete.
1:53:12
Adam Curry: So that is the
official CIA message as far as
1:53:15
I'm concerned.
1:53:16
John C Dvorak: Okay. Well, one
thing I want to mention, yes, I
1:53:20
have a second is that the
Russians? have long since taken
1:53:26
over that. That whole power
plant, yeah, the whole area is
1:53:30
theirs. And so they would be
blowing themselves up. If they
1:53:37
blew that up in there, and
they're maintaining it for a
1:53:39
reason, and they could if they
wanted to cause that some
1:53:43
Adam Curry: just turn it off.
They don't have to turn it off.
1:53:46
Turn it off.
1:53:49
John C Dvorak: So this is this
is Ukrainian operation of trying
1:53:52
to they want to attack it or
something to get to I don't know
1:53:57
what they're up to.
1:53:58
Adam Curry: Come on, John. But
okay, our guys Catholics in
1:54:02
action. Hello.
1:54:03
John C Dvorak: That's okay. Now,
I was thinking about this two
1:54:09
$70 billion dollars worth of
American money that's going over
1:54:14
there in one form or another,
and then being distributed to
1:54:18
Africa. Is it possible that the
CIA that there's not too much
1:54:22
complaining about this as let's
just say the CIA is the
1:54:26
middleman as the arms dealer to
sell the $70 billion worth of
1:54:32
arms or at least half of it?
Let's say 35 billion to Africa
1:54:35
or maybe 100 billion in gray
market sales and return that 100
1:54:41
billion to our coffers. So the
70 billion investment actually
1:54:46
is is is money well spent. It's
an investment a dream
1:54:50
Adam Curry: on that's all going
to the big guy 10% for the big
1:54:55
guy. What do we talk to our
coffers? What? What is that ever
1:55:00
happened? Oh, here America, we
just got we got some money back
1:55:03
for you. Unlikely. Here's the
second part of this. He says
1:55:08
Unknown: Russia is getting
desperate as more Western
1:55:11
military aid is coming. Today,
the US and other allies agreed
1:55:15
to train Ukrainian pilots to
operate F sixteens. But it's
1:55:19
still unclear when they'll
arrive. And how many you've been
1:55:23
talking about planes since day
one. I remember seeing you the
1:55:28
very early days of the war in
this building in the basement.
1:55:32
Now they're somewhere in the
pipeline,
1:55:35
John C Dvorak: waist up. What
was angled doing there in the
1:55:40
first place it very early days
in the basement, the very early
1:55:43
days in the basement as you who
was getting briefed
1:55:47
Adam Curry: it of course, and
how come they're not in the
1:55:50
basement anymore? My question.
Back to Back to Richard Engel
1:55:56
are our expert on the ground,
wasn't he? In the My Dawn as
1:56:00
well?
1:56:02
John C Dvorak: I don't remember
that he was or not, but
1:56:04
probably.
1:56:05
Unknown: I remember seeing you
the very early days of the war
1:56:08
in this building in the
basement. Now they're somewhere
1:56:13
in the pipeline. What has been
the effect of having weapons
1:56:17
rolled out like this given slice
by slice over time, though,
1:56:22
surely,
1:56:23
it's prolonged the war. Ducky,
the actual if we are supplied
1:56:29
with the machinery that is
currently held by our partners,
1:56:33
we will be the Foster.
1:56:35
We also asked about comments
from former President Trump and
1:56:38
Governor DeSantis questioning
American support for Ukraine.
1:56:42
President Solinsky invited both
to come here and said unless
1:56:46
Vladimir Putin is stopped in
this country, there'll be a
1:56:49
wider war with NATO.
1:56:50
Adam Curry: Ah, there it is.
Yes. So it doesn't really
1:56:54
matter. If they're in NATO or
not, they're coming. The
1:56:57
Russians are coming. The
Russians are coming. The
1:56:59
Russians are coming. The
Russians are coming. wider war,
1:57:02
it's going to be everywhere. Get
ready, Holland, your next. I
1:57:09
have. Unbelievable. So a
delegation of African nations
1:57:14
went to Ukraine and met with the
result that President Solinsky
1:57:20
Unknown: and they could do the
deal to get those arms down
1:57:22
there.
1:57:23
Adam Curry: Well, it was billed
as a mediation mission to get
1:57:29
some kind of peace because you
know, the Oh, that's right.
1:57:32
Yeah. Just began a couple of
weeks ago. Yeah, they haven't,
1:57:34
you know, they got some issues.
They can't they're there. People
1:57:36
can't eat wheat, they want their
wheat. They want their wheat
1:57:39
they can't eat. But I
1:57:42
Unknown: love sorghum. I love
1:57:45
Adam Curry: douchebag dog from
France. 24. Our favorite. He
1:57:50
says something here that is just
too funny when it comes to when
1:57:53
it comes to mainstream media,
and how they view things
1:57:57
particularly fairness and
neutrality. This kind of takes
1:58:00
the cake
1:58:01
Unknown: Victor, our
international affairs
1:58:02
commentator, Douglas Herbert,
hello to you. There are some
1:58:06
critics over this delegation.
Some say it's the wrong group.
1:58:08
And some say it's at the worst
time. Why is that?
1:58:11
Well, and you're right. The
critics have been unsparing and
1:58:14
the critics mainly obviously
Ukraine, but also in the US,
1:58:17
Europe, members of NATO. What
are they been saying the
1:58:19
criticism ranges from? This is a
laughingstock mediation, Mission
1:58:24
mediation and quotes to they
have absolutely no leverage
1:58:28
compared to the real global
powers such as China, which
1:58:30
could have some bearing on this
conflict if it really had the
1:58:34
will or the political will, to
they are not neutral. This is
1:58:37
where the criticism is. I'll
start with the we are not
1:58:40
neutral plank. You have six
nations taking part in this
1:58:44
mission. And what's interesting
is one more than a dozen African
1:58:47
nations failed to condemn the
Russian invasion. Early on early
1:58:52
in the days last year, UN
resolution. Four of the nations
1:58:56
on this mission abstained from
that resolution condemning
1:58:59
Russia's invasion. So you have
one of the biggest ones, if not
1:59:02
the biggest one in South Africa,
you have Senegal, you have the
1:59:05
Republic of Congo, and you have
Uganda, those four nations that
1:59:09
is four out of the six on this
team refused to vote to refuse
1:59:12
to vote abstain from condemning.
You do have to who were
1:59:16
represented in this delegation,
Egypt, in Zambia, and they did
1:59:20
vote to condemn Russia's
invasion. So you have this
1:59:22
neutrality problem here. A
delegation whose members are not
1:59:26
seen as neutral and at worst,
seen as beholden to Moscow for
1:59:31
various things from as you
mentioned, dependence on grain
1:59:34
and fertilizer in the goodwill
of leji Amir Putin,
1:59:38
Adam Curry: so help me
understand if there's a vote to
1:59:41
condemn Russia and you say, You
know what, I'm not going to
1:59:45
vote. Isn't that the definition
of being neutral?
1:59:50
Unknown: That's what neutrality
I would say
1:59:52
Adam Curry: that's what
neutrality is. But no in the in
1:59:56
the eyes of the of the
mainstream media. Okay. douche
2:00:00
bag dog that you're now a puppet
yeah
2:00:03
Unknown: be a Putin puppet and
2:00:04
Adam Curry: you're Vladimir
Putin puppet. The the whole idea
2:00:08
of neutrality is you know what
I'm not for or against anybody
2:00:11
in this. I'm neutral. That's
what Switzerland did now we're
2:00:15
neutral. Give us your money.
We're neutral. So this is it's
2:00:21
just so sad. Yeah. Wow. And then
of course, you know, we got to
2:00:27
throw some more nuke nuke fear
in
2:00:29
Unknown: there Latimer Putin's
new statements about nuclear
2:00:31
weapons, and his possible
response
2:00:34
if Ukraine receives NATO 16
fighter jets ABCDE and panel is
2:00:39
in Ukraine for us this morning
with the latest. Ian Good
2:00:41
Adam Curry: morning. Good
morning.
2:00:42
Unknown: Yeah, good morning
works that's right. The first
2:00:44
Russian tactical nukes have now
been deployed in Belarus to the
2:00:47
north of Ukraine but
2:00:49
their tactical
2:00:50
Adam Curry: he's just making it
up as you go tactical nukes I
2:00:53
don't even know what that means
anymore. Tech Whoa, would you
2:00:56
use open a can
2:00:58
John C Dvorak: i This is a
bottle of origin sparkling
2:01:01
water, who origin
2:01:02
Adam Curry: origin? And is it
basically just fizzy water
2:01:04
expensive with a nice label?
2:01:07
John C Dvorak: It's in a label
could be better. It's not as
2:01:10
fizzy as I like our back to the
tactical
2:01:14
Unknown: nukes truce to the
north of Ukraine. But it's also
2:01:17
effectively moving the weapons
onto the border of three NATO
2:01:20
countries as well Bluejeans
claiming that they'd only be
2:01:23
used in the event of a threat to
the Russian state. But remember,
2:01:26
he invaded Ukraine in the first
place because he falsely claimed
2:01:29
it was a threat to the Russian
state. This isn't the first time
2:01:32
of course, are these arrays now?
Throwing in the word falsely,
2:01:36
Adam Curry: yes, falsely falsely
claimed.
2:01:38
John C Dvorak: Why did they just
say claims become claims as a
2:01:42
threat? That's bad enough but
falsely claims, it's that means
2:01:46
he's insincere. Does that mean
he's insincere when he claims
2:01:49
something?
2:01:50
Adam Curry: Good point. I love
your linguistics
2:01:52
Unknown: Russian state. But
remember, he invaded Ukraine in
2:01:55
the first place because he
falsely claimed it was a threat
2:01:58
to the Russian state. This isn't
the first time of course, that
2:02:01
he's raised the specter of a
nuclear attack as a threat in
2:02:04
this war. And this deployment is
just the first wave with more to
2:02:07
come. The Biden administration
says it's closely monitoring the
2:02:10
situation, but for now says
there's no reason to adjust
2:02:14
America's nuclear posture.
Meanwhile, Ukraine's allies
2:02:17
preparing to start training
pilots on f 16 and other fighter
2:02:21
jets, which could be delivered
to Ukraine as early as late
2:02:24
summer. Russia's saying that it
will try to attack those
2:02:27
aircraft with Putin warning
there's a serious danger that
2:02:30
NATO could be pulled further
into the war. Meanwhile, Ukraine
2:02:34
is saying that it's made further
small advances in its counter
2:02:37
offensive. And this morning
though the British military the
2:02:40
British Ministry of Defence
assessing the Russia likely has
2:02:43
a temporary advantage in the
battles in the south especially
2:02:47
by increased use of air power in
particular attack helicopters.
2:02:51
Adam Curry: Oh attack
helicopters that's the next one
2:02:54
we need some helicopter action
what a scam this thing is such a
2:03:00
scam. You
2:03:00
Unknown: think what a scam?
2:03:02
Adam Curry: I mean? It's an op
and this is a scop is horrible.
2:03:06
Scam op. It's just it's just
more more more more more and
2:03:10
they're getting crappy F 16. We
know they're not getting the
2:03:12
good stuff. You have the older
f6 teens,
2:03:15
John C Dvorak: and they gotta be
taken out of service eventually.
2:03:18
Adam Curry: Yes, well, you have
to make room for the new ones
2:03:20
but new gear. Yeah, and all all
the defense ministers meeting in
2:03:26
Vilnius. Oh yes, the only US
Vilnius and Vilnius look at some
2:03:30
more money How do we get some
money out of there may a lot of
2:03:33
shoulder back slapping going on
there
2:03:37
Unknown: Ah don't know. All
right. Yeah, I'm in the Ukraine
2:03:44
for that is
2:03:45
Adam Curry: that is kind of the
way I do it. Wait, I have one
2:03:47
more. One more. There's, this is
a drone clip. It's always always
2:03:51
interesting to hear a drone clip
2:03:52
Unknown: tonight new details of
the dramatic moment Russian
2:03:55
soldier Ruslan Anat, in
surrenders on the battlefield to
2:03:58
a Ukrainian drone.
2:04:02
Adam Curry: The drone, yeah, he
surrendered to a drone.
2:04:05
Unknown: This video given to ABC
News by the Ukrainian army's
2:04:08
92nd brigade begins with a
different Russian soldier
2:04:11
running through the trenches
amid fierce fighting, they're
2:04:14
back moot last month, the drone
drops an explosive device just a
2:04:18
few feet away, knocking into the
ground and eventually killing
2:04:22
him. That's when annotating
emerge from a tunnel in the
2:04:25
trenches. realizing he's the
last man standing he used his
2:04:28
hand signals to surrender to the
drone shaking his head and
2:04:32
crossing his arms in an X. The
Ukrainians attach a note to the
2:04:35
drone in Russian saying
surrender follow the drone, and
2:04:39
it reads it and appears to a
crock of crap story. moving side
2:04:45
to side to signaling No he
won't. He makes a treacherous
2:04:48
walk half a mile across the open
battlefield over the bodies of
2:04:52
his fallen comrades. At one
point artillery fire narrowly
2:04:56
missing him. The Ukrainians
claiming it was rushing fire to
2:05:00
Close to Ukrainian trenches he
surrenders and is taken
2:05:03
prisoner. Yeah, and you can also
Nicolas the Ukrainians recording
2:05:07
this video. He says simply, I am
Anna Tim Ruslan Nikolayevich. A
2:05:11
soldier of the Russian army, the
drone saved my life today.
2:05:16
Adam Curry: Follow the drone
imagine
2:05:19
John C Dvorak: just take out his
hand gun and shoot the thing
2:05:22
Adam Curry: follow the drone
follow the drone Oh my goodness.
2:05:26
And how
2:05:27
John C Dvorak: did they wait
they wrote a note and then they
2:05:29
flew another drone out there to
deliver the note I don't get
2:05:32
that note part of the stories
Call
2:05:34
Adam Curry: of Duty seven or
something. I don't think this
2:05:36
just makes no sense. They put a
note on the drone follow the
2:05:40
drone and it rocked and rocked
back and forth. Okay, that's a
2:05:43
signal I gotta follow the drone.
John this is dumped this I'm
2:05:48
gonna say it again. wag the dog
doesn't real people dying, but
2:05:51
it's wag the dog. Well, this
2:05:53
John C Dvorak: the drone story
is definitely out of control.
2:05:57
Adam Curry: And with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
2:05:58
courage in the morning to you
the man who put the sea in the
2:06:01
counter offensive ladies and
gentlemen say hello to my friend
2:06:03
on the other end that one and
only Mr. Johnson
2:06:10
John C Dvorak: Mr. Adam curl so
in the morning nauseous to see
2:06:13
boots on the ground, feet in the
air. Water and all of those
2:06:17
nights out there and in
2:06:19
Adam Curry: the morning to all
the trolls and the troll. Trolls
2:06:25
follow the drone 1899 vo
2:06:30
John C Dvorak: dollars Day
everyone says a three day
2:06:32
weekend. This is
2:06:34
Adam Curry: Juneteenth today.
Tomorrow. Well, it's the 18th
2:06:38
today.
2:06:40
John C Dvorak: Well, tomorrow,
Sunday is the holiday.
2:06:42
Adam Curry: Okay, so All right.
So all right. So there was
2:06:45
John C Dvorak: a holiday three
day weekend. So we get Thursday
2:06:48
numbers. We should have it
should be 2324. But it's 18.
2:06:53
Yeah. So we're down way down.
And so no one's listening to the
2:06:56
show and we work. We go out of
our way to work on these
2:06:59
holidays. We do and nobody
cares.
2:07:02
Adam Curry: Yeah, I mean, yeah,
that's all right. We Oh, that's
2:07:05
a show business. You know, you
work on holidays, and we don't
2:07:08
take sabbaticals or what is it
called? sabbatical?
2:07:12
Unknown: Yeah, no. hiatus,
2:07:13
Adam Curry: hiatus. hiatus, who
were the shows on hiatus,
2:07:19
everybody. We're almost at the
end of our season.
2:07:21
John C Dvorak: He had a season's
over season going on hiatus.
2:07:25
We'll be back next
2:07:26
Adam Curry: year imagine. We
love having the trolls with us
2:07:30
though. Thank you for the almost
2000 trolls who hung out and are
2:07:34
sitting steady with us, we
appreciate that. You can be one
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of them by going to troll
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should be ditching your modern
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legacy podcast app and getting a
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modern one at podcast apps.com.
A whole bunch of them now have
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had this live feature included.
Pod verse podcast guru, podcast
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addict fountain curio caster is
growing the format we've been
2:08:03
using for a humble 16 years is
now officially in heads. It's
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probably like eight or nine
podcast apps now. And as I said,
2:08:13
podcast apps.com You can also
follow us at no agenda
2:08:16
social.com People seem to like
using no agenda, social account
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for you know, for getting groups
together and organizing
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themselves and doing stuff,
which I think is a very good
2:08:26
usage of it. I mean, I use it as
kind of as an inbox. But from
2:08:30
time to time, I'll just go to
the local timeline and you know,
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once you get through the
inevitable 5000 Memes because
2:08:38
yeah, oh, we have a community
let me upload memes all day.
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means
2:08:46
Unknown: a couple of them in the
newsletter once in a while.
2:08:48
Adam Curry: I'm not saying
they're not good, but it's like
2:08:50
it's there are producers out
there? Who muscly do Oh, that
2:08:54
must be 100 a day. Oh, I got
another good meme. Gotta share.
2:08:58
Unknown: Gotta share movie buddy
memes sting. Most of them are
2:09:01
pretty
2:09:01
Adam Curry: bad. But so from
time to time, that's a good one.
2:09:05
But I like it when people are
organizing and doing stuff
2:09:07
together. That's the kind of
stuff I like to see. Doesn't
2:09:11
matter. You can reach us from
any Mastodon account that does
2:09:16
not block us for our free
speech. That's what they call
2:09:20
it. There's over 400 that block
us were on the block list. Don't
2:09:23
even investigate just block us
just because someone said so.
2:09:27
And you can figure it out and
try it by searching for and
2:09:31
following Adam and Noah in the
social.com Jhansi Dvorak no
2:09:33
agenda social.com As part of our
value for value mission, which
2:09:38
is another reason why we're
still here is because we're
2:09:41
supported by the community, the
community. The producers, we
2:09:46
have no listeners, we only have
producers who support us with
2:09:50
time, talent and treasure and
that really is what I mean. I
2:09:53
was even this morning, you know,
we've got the no agenda stream,
2:09:57
and there's all kinds of you
know, shows 20 four hours a day,
2:10:00
seven days a week and Darren
O'Neill is the rock roll pre
2:10:03
show. And you know, we do switch
over and it's more professional
2:10:07
than an actual Radio Network.
Yeah, it was like Darren says
2:10:11
over to you boom, I jack in the
stream switches, Matt, and this
2:10:15
is all stuff that other people
have done for us. Because if we
2:10:18
had to pay for it, it would have
never happened ever. So we're
2:10:22
highly appreciative. All these
producers who help us out
2:10:25
sending a story sending us
clips, giving us their
2:10:29
expertise. Everybody's an expert
at something. And one of the
2:10:31
expertise is a number of people
have is creating artwork. And we
2:10:36
are one of the few shows that
has changing new artwork for
2:10:39
every single episode. And we'd
like to thank and highlight the
2:10:44
artist who does that for the
previous episode. That was
2:10:47
915 64 1564 episodes of this
show. We titled that one Zombie
2:10:53
Town. And the art came to us
from Dame Kenny Ben, which was
2:10:58
just a beautiful a beautiful
piece popped like crazy, because
2:11:03
had a white background. I love
that and it was a bowl full of
2:11:07
eyeballs. Which now what was the
what was the eyeball thing
2:11:11
about? I can't remember it was
it was a story. It
2:11:13
John C Dvorak: was the guy at
Harvard that was selling body
2:11:15
parts I bought on Etsy and eBay.
2:11:19
Unknown: Yes. The ghoul
2:11:22
John C Dvorak: Yeah, so it was
like guys making 100 grand a
2:11:25
year on the side besides being
the head of the morgue at
2:11:29
Harvard or whatever.
2:11:30
Adam Curry: I mean, that's a
little price tag little $33 for
2:11:35
all the balls ball a ball rival
beautiful. Thank you, Dan. Kenny
2:11:39
been everyone's celebrated this
everyone thought it was a great
2:11:43
a great choice. There were a
couple other things that we
2:11:46
looked at. I had J
2:11:50
Unknown: con scaler quite fond
of one piece
2:11:53
Adam Curry: while the J con
sketch one I thought was kind of
2:11:55
cool because he was talking
about it was the eagle American
2:11:59
Eagle. pierced by an ESG dei and
an SEL arrow which was kind of a
2:12:05
symbolic thing and you pointed
out that we had not spoken about
2:12:08
ESG or dei only the SEL social
emotional learning and so that
2:12:14
kind of nixed that there was
another one kind of behind you
2:12:18
like I liked
2:12:19
Unknown: the Bible one a little
bit it'd be aI Bible
2:12:23
Adam Curry: what was that what
was that about again? The
2:12:25
John C Dvorak: night goes
because we talked about AI Yeah,
2:12:29
I'll be right the Bible
2:12:30
Adam Curry: yeah new religion
coming Yes. Then we had some
2:12:35
zombie towns which are okay was
that it? Some other AI with a
2:12:43
dinosaur Ai no agenda dinosaur.
Matthew dropped Coast deer with
2:12:50
the bug guys made me laugh but
it wasn't didn't really make
2:12:53
sense.
2:12:56
Unknown: It made no sense. And
2:12:58
Adam Curry: damn, Kenny Ben did
give us a chuckle with the blue
2:13:01
dress. The Spotted blue dress
with a cigar is even even titled
2:13:06
A cheap joke. Yeah,
2:13:09
Unknown: it was a cheap joke was
a cheap joke, but
2:13:11
Adam Curry: thank you. We got we
got a chuckle out of it. And was
2:13:16
that it? Pretty much think that
was kind of it? Yeah,
2:13:20
John C Dvorak: I mean, the one
thing there was a couple pieces
2:13:23
that was the what was the title
of the show? I forgot. Zombie
2:13:28
Town Zombie Town. Yeah, I kind
of like the Matthew drop co
2:13:32
Zombie Town version two of the
San Francisco sign. Yeah, but
2:13:37
we're going to use Yeah, we
tried to keep the DI ball art
2:13:40
was gonna win. So
2:13:41
Adam Curry: the other one is
more more. D had an AI Bible,
2:13:47
which is a magic eight ball is a
little a little too complicated.
2:13:51
But eight balls have been a
staple. I
2:13:54
Unknown: think of art. Yes, the
magic at all has
2:13:58
Adam Curry: come back from time
to time. defended the show. So
2:14:01
thank you, friend to the show.
Thank you damn Kenny, Ben and to
2:14:05
all the artists who are always
doing fabulous work AI generated
2:14:09
or not ICU comics or Blogger. We
appreciate it. You're doing
2:14:13
yeoman's work. It is beautiful.
It is a great way to contribute
2:14:17
to the show, which as you know
is time talent or treasure. And
2:14:20
we do have some people who are
celebrating Father's Day with us
2:14:23
again we're working on Father's
Day and they donated their
2:14:27
treasure it is always welcomed
and absolutely needed. We have
2:14:32
no other gigs
2:14:33
John C Dvorak: and we've been I
would like to I was somewhat
2:14:37
bewildered by the fact that we
got a lot of you know we had our
2:14:42
judge say average donations but
for Father's Day I really
2:14:46
expected someone to gift their
father a knighthood and nobody
2:14:51
did it.
2:14:51
Adam Curry: No, no dads are on
the outs man. That's that's just
2:14:56
a fact of life. Yeah, Father
There's no longer needed I guess
2:15:03
I don't know I have no other
explanation for it. But the ones
2:15:07
who did donate love their dads
or their the dads they are
2:15:11
married to so there's there are
some beautiful notes here and we
2:15:14
kick it off with our first
executive producer. We'd like to
2:15:17
hand out these titles to the to
the top donors and they're well
2:15:21
deserved and they're real.
They're not some phony baloney
2:15:24
things actual title Bob Millsap
isn't surprised Arizona and
2:15:28
kicks us off at 333 dot 33 And
he says Shelly and I need a dee
2:15:32
doo
2:15:34
Unknown: dee doo
2:15:37
Adam Curry: ba Bob says evil
COVID machine almost got me near
2:15:40
death and hospitalized for 53
days. December of 21 Oh I
2:15:48
remember this Tina saw my crazed
fight on Instagram and started
2:15:51
pulling for me Thank you Tina.
My book Shake yourself free is
2:15:55
out now. That's right the
keeper. The keeper she was
2:15:58
following him. She saw that she
was like holy crap and she was
2:16:02
she was definitely lifting him
up as much as possible over the
2:16:05
over the interface over the
Insta. His book Shake yourself
2:16:09
free is out now.
2:16:13
John C Dvorak: Dame Becky's next
on the list. She's in Katy
2:16:17
Texas. Or K as they now say.
Happy Father's Day to Sir Mike
2:16:23
of the great Katy Prairie from
Dame Becky. best husband and
2:16:30
father ever. No jingles no karma
$333.33 from Dame Becky.
2:16:37
Adam Curry: Felix Rios is in San
Jose California. 333 33 I do not
2:16:42
have a note from Felix.
2:16:43
Unknown: I don't see I don't go
I got nothing.
2:16:45
Adam Curry: I got nothing
either. So we give them a double
2:16:47
of karma. Thank you for your
work. You've got karma
2:16:54
John C Dvorak: banana, sir Luca
of Walla Walla, Washington,
2:16:58
Walla Walla, Walla Walla, good
winegrowing area by the way, ITM
2:17:03
chaps greetings from the south
east. Here's the deal. I just
2:17:10
finished scanning my family
photo album into a digital
2:17:13
format and you will never guess
how many photos I scanned how
2:17:17
many photos Did you scan? 333
not a joke. So here's a donation
2:17:25
for $333 which is what his
donation is. Jingles please, Gil
2:17:30
Abram son, vocal fry, Trump
dumps jobs karma, the Pelosi
2:17:38
Trump Joe jobs variety and sign
sir Luca of the south east.
2:17:44
Unknown: You know, obviously, I
read I read The New York Times,
2:17:47
like all day long, mainly on my
iPad.
2:17:53
They did dumps they call them
dumps big massive dump jobs,
2:17:57
jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's vote for
2:18:11
Adam Curry: Tracy Leslie is in
Bremerton, Washington. 310 25.
2:18:17
Must be a reason for that. It's
a switcheroo note with hopes of
2:18:21
being read during the show
around Father's Day. Well, there
2:18:24
you go. It's enfant Nailed it.
Nailed it. $310.20 $5 donation
2:18:30
towards the knighthood of Sir
Brian Leslie of Brimelow. In
2:18:33
celebration of his fatherhood
magnificence, he's off often
2:18:38
perplexed yet always grateful
wife would like to acknowledge
2:18:41
Brian stellar wit and verve and
taking care of her and their
2:18:45
three girls would not want you
and literally could not do it
2:18:49
without you. You are loved.
That's a sweet note. Very nice
2:18:54
note and the switcheroo my wife
and three girls that means
2:18:57
everyone telling him he's wrong.
All the time.
2:19:01
John C Dvorak: All the time.
Sir, Ill Pope de ciclismo I'm
2:19:11
guessing in Rio Verde, Arizona.
The birth of a degree row is a
2:19:17
Adam Curry: black night actually
black.
2:19:18
John C Dvorak: Hello gents.
Thanks for your outstanding
2:19:21
work. Please accept this humble
donation as a token of my
2:19:25
admiration for the sanity pills
you provided us on a regular
2:19:29
basis. Back in early May, I was
unceremoniously made redundant
2:19:35
at my job despite 12 years of
great performance reviews and
2:19:39
significant contributions to the
company. If you're redundant me
2:19:43
somebody else is doing your job.
Why weren't they redundant?
2:19:46
Yeah, because they get paid
less. Yeah, but Fear not. Fear
2:19:52
not Monday I'll be back into the
slave force as I landed a new
2:19:56
job my wife and I are trying to
close this chapter of our lives
2:20:00
and embark on a new adventure
I'm in need of house sale karma
2:20:06
and general life karma Could you
please send some my way as
2:20:09
always misbehave and have fun
sir it Popa day clears ciclismo
2:20:16
Blacknight
2:20:17
Adam Curry: you got it that
means well if you want to have
2:20:20
that need a little bit of goat
at it you've got
2:20:27
then we have a row of ducks for
our first Associate Executive
2:20:31
Producer ship and this comes
from the Indiana no agenda meet
2:20:34
up which means they they
collected that and they decide
2:20:39
who gets it sometimes with fun
and games sometimes. Who knows
2:20:42
how they do it. Maybe it's a
switcheroo There you go.
2:20:44
Associate Executive Producer
donation for Alicia Mac Homer.
2:20:49
Let me just do that right now.
Make sure we credit you properly
2:20:53
Alicia. In The Morning John Adam
this at this past indie no
2:20:57
agenda meetup, I got the chance
to look at Mimi's book too many
2:21:00
eggs too many books, too many
books not too many. eggs.com
2:21:05
That book is amazing. The size
of the book is small compared to
2:21:08
the amount of information
contained and I love it. It's a
2:21:11
big book. I thought it was in
fact when we got it it was I
2:21:16
thought it wasn't small as hefty
was a nice month nice products.
2:21:20
I'll be buying myself a copy to
keep I'm only 22 years old and I
2:21:24
love to cook and I practice to
become a better cook every day.
2:21:28
I never knew eggs could be
cooked in so many ways in this
2:21:30
book will definitely keep my
breakfast interesting for quite
2:21:33
some time, not just breakfast
recipes. Thank you guys for
2:21:37
putting together the best
podcast in the universe. I love
2:21:39
it when John makes book and
movie recommendations. If only
2:21:42
he would make a list.
2:21:44
Unknown: I'd like I'd like to
order lists online.
2:21:47
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's plenty
of no agenda book club lists, go
2:21:50
to girl this.org I think I'd
like to request jobs karma from
2:21:56
my boyfriend Joshua. And if I
could get a goat karma for my
2:21:59
birthday, which is on June 18.
Sincerely, Alicia McComber you
2:22:03
got it. We're going to do jobs
and goat together
2:22:06
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. That's
2:22:17
John C Dvorak: Ralph plain ol
Ralph in Miami, Florida. 200.
2:22:21
Happy Father's Day to both of
you. And all fathers and dads in
2:22:25
the no agenda nation. Please
send me some Father's Day karma
2:22:28
or send some to my dad. Ralph
Sr. In Miami. Yes, Ralph in
2:22:33
Miami.
2:22:34
Adam Curry: You got it, Ralph.
You've got karma. By the way.
2:22:38
Those of you still here the
magic numbers are coming up soon
2:22:42
in the donation segment along
with our special interview. Amy
2:22:46
Lynn in Cold Spring Minnesota
$200 Associate Executive
2:22:51
Producer ship and she is
switcheroo in that for Dan the
2:22:54
man and says oh that's her
smokin hot husband Dan the man
2:22:57
happy Father's Day my smokin hot
husband Dan the man. You're an
2:23:01
amazing dad to our sassy human
resource Kocaeli think this is
2:23:06
you pronounce that Kaylee with
an ex saili I think it's
2:23:10
Caitlyn. I
2:23:11
Unknown: think it's che che che
li che li y l i
2:23:16
Adam Curry: interesting. That's
an interesting have a cool name.
2:23:19
Yeah. So like, like kind of like
an Elon Musk kid name in a way.
2:23:25
Just saying. That's cool. And
thank you for all the support in
2:23:30
my new business venture. We love
you your wife Amy Lynn not a
2:23:34
stripper strippers. It's a good
strippers,
2:23:40
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs
2:23:54
then elu patcon there you go you
2:23:57
Adam Curry: finally get to week
two
2:23:58
Unknown: yeah every week
2:24:00
Adam Curry: every week
2:24:01
John C Dvorak: in Lakewood,
Colorado and jobs coming for all
2:24:03
you job hunters out there for a
competitive edge. Go to Image
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makers inc.com For all your
executive resume and job search
2:24:12
needs are just fine little
patcon on the show's executive
2:24:18
producer list and run a search
very nice so Okay, whether she
2:24:23
gets karma she needs jobs karma
for when
2:24:27
Adam Curry: we yeah, we can do
the jobs Carmen no problem
2:24:30
Unknown: jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs for jobs.
2:24:37
John C Dvorak: Well, that was me
cleaning up on this donation
2:24:40
every week at 20 bucks,
2:24:41
Adam Curry: I think is probably
doing good business for somehow
2:24:44
which is okay by me. I got no
problem with it. Oh, boy,
2:24:49
something looks like something
is messed up with my meet up
2:24:51
reports. I'm gonna have to look
for this. Well, good news,
2:24:54
because we're going to go
straight through we have no nice
2:24:57
things. And we do have some
meetup, reports and meetup
2:24:59
promos.
2:25:00
John C Dvorak: No nice things on
Father's Day. I
2:25:02
Adam Curry: know I know it's a
little disappointing but John is
2:25:05
going to take us through the
hundreds since we did promise to
2:25:09
mention all these Father's Day
donations and through to the 50s
2:25:14
and here we go.
2:25:16
John C Dvorak: Frankie T starts
us off in London, UK $156.40
2:25:21
Nisa de douching
2:25:25
Unknown: you've been de deuced
2:25:27
John C Dvorak: Terry Wilson
Langley, Washington $150. Lydia
2:25:32
Terry B. Dominic Ali and Clifton
Park, New York. 133 33. And this
2:25:38
is Happy Father's Day to shore
geek heretic, Crystal Garza in
2:25:43
Dripping Springs right down the
road is right down the road
2:25:48
117 18 And this is a switcheroo
credit to Gilberto Garza. He
2:25:54
needs it he douching
2:25:57
Unknown: you've been D deuced.
2:25:59
John C Dvorak: Happy Father's
anonymous in Atlanta, Georgia.
2:26:02
$101 Dame Becky and Sir Mike and
Katy Texas. Happy Father's Day
2:26:08
to our number one human resource
and father of 10 grand human
2:26:11
worthwhile. Chris Kinney. Chris
is in a mouth Okay, Chris, sir
2:26:17
Stuart and Stafford, UK
Staffordshire, UK, to my father
2:26:23
Ken, who died 22 years ago on
Father's Day, playing his last
2:26:28
game of golf. Oh, wow. Let me
see one out while putting on a
2:26:32
par for the 11th hole. I missed
you every day. That's from susur
2:26:38
Stewart's Kevin McLaughlin,
Lucas, North Carolina. And he
2:26:42
has a Father's Day call out to
boobs. 808 Yes. Central Jersey
2:26:49
meetup in Portland, New Jersey.
Switcheroo coaster donation from
2:26:53
the Central Jersey meetup for
Craig Cut. Cut caccia Christine
2:26:59
Kalba in Kelowna, Kelowna BC,
and that's a Happy Father's Day
2:27:06
to her smoking out husband, Ian.
Sir Rick in Arlington,
2:27:11
Washington, who kitchen his name
every time now. 69960 Rick, and
2:27:19
congratulations to Jay for doing
that. All Rick Harkins in Vienna
2:27:23
new start in Austria, Vienna
news dot Vienna news dot 6767
2:27:32
Read a Harrington in Sparks
Nevada six 533 Happy Father's
2:27:37
Day John and Adam and all the
dads to Kevin O'Brien is Chicago
2:27:40
Illinois. 606 sure b and a
Nashville Tennessee 5993 which
2:27:47
is eggs over easy. Sir Brian
Tobias and in Gardner, Kansas
2:27:52
5888. Sir Doherty and Stephen
City, Virginia 2678 Happy
2:27:59
Father's Day not Jake. Richard
Futter in London UK Sir Richard
2:28:05
5155 10 James Edmondson in South
Plainfield, New Jersey. 5510.
2:28:11
That's double nickels on the
dime. Dean Roker 5510 Jennifer
2:28:15
Hanson and Braintree,
Massachusetts 5510 wishing the
2:28:20
best dad in the universe Don
Hansen. Happy Father's Day. Love
2:28:27
him very much. Troy funderburk
in Spokane, Washington, 55.
2:28:31
Barron Henry and Rancho Palos
Verdes 5242 Bart Viken in
2:28:37
Haarlem, Netherlands he's a man
overboard who's back he says a
2:28:44
de douching
2:28:44
Adam Curry: says he listened
from the Early Start lost
2:28:46
interest started listening again
a few years later bought a
2:28:49
couple mugs from the no agenda
store which by the way is before
2:28:53
the store and the and the
artists mainly never donated.
2:28:58
Unknown: You've been de deuced
2:29:02
John C Dvorak: caller Warnock in
Edmonton Oklahoma. switch router
2:29:06
my dad David merchants toward
his knighthood love you Father's
2:29:12
love you Father. The Father pops
Father's Day pops. We love you
2:29:15
and appreciate everything you
do. John Ford in McKinney,
2:29:19
Texas. 51 for John arcade Jr. I
guess. Thomas Ballmer in Iowa
2:29:26
City, Iowa Happy Father's Day to
my dad John Ballmer. 5005 or
2:29:31
5050 Actually, Andrew Ben's in
Imperial Missouri. That's 5005
2:29:37
Kimberly Burton in Greenville,
Michigan is 50 with a Father's
2:29:40
Day to her husband, Jodi, thank
you so much for being a
2:29:44
wonderful dad to our boys.
Michael McKinnis, Iowa, Kansas.
2:29:48
These are all 50s is 58. You're
on the birthday list. Stevens
2:29:53
Schumacher and Xenia Ohio 50
Peter odo enriched New York,
2:29:58
Joan Paul's in her Nando Beach,
Florida, Nathan Cochran in
2:30:03
Hollywood, Florida. Alexandre
ver de HO and Gig Harbor
2:30:08
Washington gadget freak 10 in
Western Springs, Illinois, Scott
2:30:14
lavender in Montgomery, Texas,
Cory Bennett in Denver,
2:30:18
Colorado, Travis more in
Gibsonville, North Carolina
2:30:22
Happy Father's Day to the best
podcast and all the dads out
2:30:25
there. Now Alexis Robles in
Chula Vista, California. John
2:30:31
Emma do not a lady. Thanks guys.
Well, Lexus's would probably be
2:30:42
referred to as the lady a lot.
I'll try to remember sir Eric in
2:30:48
Murfreesboro, Tennessee 50. It
was to give a posh Miss Happy
2:30:53
Father's Day to his dad Ben.
You're loved and missed every
2:30:56
day. The Anne Shipley in
Covington, Washington. 50. Sir
2:31:02
spud the mighty in Marietta,
Georgia or GRE ring and Roth in
2:31:07
Saugus, California and last on
our list is Baron Allen being up
2:31:11
there in Beaverton Oregon. I
want to thank these people for
2:31:13
making show 1565 a great show
thank you very much.
2:31:18
Adam Curry: Yes, we really
appreciate it especially for
2:31:21
executive and Associate
Executive Producers Those are
2:31:23
real titles you can use them
anywhere the titles are
2:31:26
recognized IMDb, LinkedIn, your
resume, everything counts. Also
2:31:31
thank you so much to people who
come in under $50 You are the
2:31:34
ones who are on sustaining
donations these are very much
2:31:38
appreciated and you know from
time to time checking count
2:31:40
before you know what you reach
that knighthood or that Dame
2:31:43
hood thank you all so much for
supporting the best podcast in
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the universe episode
2:31:52
Unknown: we go out for yet
people in the mouth
2:32:14
Adam Curry: nice little lesson.
We got to jet Ron and Chester
2:32:18
are celebrating today sir Jeff
tow wig. I think he's
2:32:21
celebrating on the 20th lauric
hurricanes wishes his smokin hot
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girlfriend Eva Happy birthday,
she turns 46 on the 21st Derek
2:32:28
by the way wishes his son Brexit
a happy birthday on the 22nd
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Michael Guinness is turning 50
and Blake wishes his smokin hot
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girlfriend and future smokin hot
wife marry a happy birthday she
2:32:38
turns 28 Happy birthday from
everybody. Here's the best
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podcast in the universe. Thank
you sparkles for the chaos, a
2:32:47
sparkles of chaos for the art
you sent. It was very beautiful.
2:32:50
I appreciated that no one said
2:32:59
Unknown: Now it's very important
2:33:01
Adam Curry: to understand that
throughout the years, we've
2:33:03
created these no agenda meetups,
which initially was something
2:33:07
John and I would go to and there
would be a whole bunch of people
2:33:10
getting together and then you
know we we'd hang out and we do
2:33:13
this still do that from time to
time when appropriate when
2:33:16
applicable. Of course, you know,
it's very busy and We're old
2:33:19
now. It takes a little bit more
to get us out of the house. But
2:33:24
But what what happened is this
was such a popular idea. People
2:33:29
really needed that connection
amongst each other you had you
2:33:32
are a community, you're part of
no agenda nation, people have a
2:33:35
lot to discuss. And these days,
particularly after COVID It's
2:33:38
needed more and more you need a
place to go and hang out with
2:33:41
people. By the way, people have
also met at meetups and have
2:33:45
gone on to get married and have
kids. This is a great place just
2:33:49
to get out. You don't have to
worry about and you can discuss
2:33:52
anything. Nothing is on or off
the table. There's no condemning
2:33:56
of anything everybody can have
an opinion. It's all it's all
2:34:00
beautiful. It's very, very
special the way no agenda
2:34:03
meetups are run. And before you
knew it, we were doing that on
2:34:07
meetup.com and then Mimi was
running that and it was That's a
2:34:11
horrible service and then
insects. Now knights are Daniel
2:34:15
he created no agenda meetup.com
It's become a thing. And today
2:34:20
we have quite a number of promos
and meet up reports and let's go
2:34:23
to the Midcoast maniacs first.
2:34:26
Unknown: Adam and John it's
Brian from the Midcoast maniacs
2:34:29
meetup and there were four of us
here tonight. We're having a
2:34:32
great time with pizza and salad
from Dame head gardener which
2:34:35
I'm gonna pass the phone to, but
la Manyana it's damn head
2:34:39
gardener. This is Ivana this bag
2:34:44
douchebag future Jame
2:34:48
no deducing. We had a great
time. We were looking forward to
2:34:54
the Scarborough meet up down
south pretty soon in northern
2:34:58
Massachusetts and Other meetup
here in the mid coast
2:35:01
Adam Curry: so Brian and Susie
Of course we know them did a
2:35:04
personal meet up with them many
many years ago Zombie Town says
2:35:07
Unknown: aloha in the morning
everybody sir Ernesto here
2:35:12
movers number seven. Mrs. Number
seven number seven in the
2:35:26
morning John and Adam and I all
know each other nation. We're at
2:35:30
the Red 33 Red 33 Casanova 33
that looking at Bruce Cathy
2:35:35
books to check out harmonic
371244 energy grid and
2:35:40
especially harmonics
2:35:42
Adam Curry: thank you for your
coverage in the moment I'm not
2:35:48
exactly sure but I think we just
got brainwashed. I'm not sure
2:35:51
exactly what that was about.
Kingston
2:35:55
Unknown: I TM get mo nation.
It's the one and only a white
2:36:00
Mike coming at you from the
Kingstowne house party meetup Oh
2:36:04
yes, the pillows were fluffed
the curtains were steamed.
2:36:08
Champagne was on ice. It was a
party fit for Queen Ursula
2:36:12
herself. I even to take JC D's
watch out for the microphones
2:36:17
literally strapped a Neumann mic
to the ceiling fans so that that
2:36:22
could add just a little bit of
pizzazz. But no one dared show
2:36:27
up. Unfortunately. I get it.
It's a Thursday. I'll try some
2:36:31
other configurations. In the
meantime, thank you for your
2:36:35
courage.
2:36:35
Adam Curry: Yeah, this was a
brand new meet up he was trying
2:36:39
at his home he uh we called him
a spook Of course. He's in
2:36:42
Virginia and and next time
people go to this he sounds like
2:36:46
a cool dude. And he's got
Neumann mics so make sure you
2:36:49
check that out. Now always a
good report coming in from the
2:36:53
indie folks. This is the indie
June meetup mix.
2:36:57
Unknown: This is de Maria and
this is a Sir Mark rain.
2:37:00
Dienstag has to have an amazing
meetup and prodigy burger. Yeah,
2:37:04
baby from Indiana and try it
out.
2:37:06
Listen up slaves. GMO is now
cold biII. For bioengineering
2:37:11
meet the new boss. It's the same
as the old boss
2:37:14
in the morning baby
2:37:15
powder from Indianapolis haven't
had six glasses today, but it's
2:37:19
still been good.
2:37:19
Thank you for your courage. Hi,
this is Cindy from Carmel. Thank
2:37:21
you for your courage in the
morning. Hello. It's Christie
2:37:24
from Carmel. Hi, it's Brooke
from Carmel Jason from Carmel
2:37:27
sir Betty saying hello to
everybody out there. In the
2:37:31
morning swanning this is Shana
from
2:37:33
Fort Wayne in the morning in the
morning. Yes, sir. PBR street
2:37:36
gang. John Adams. Thank you for
your courage. Hope to see you
2:37:39
soon.
2:37:40
Dame Trinity from Fort Wayne
having a great time in Hindi.
2:37:43
Thank you for your courage.
2:37:44
This is serve of the Maipo and
we had a fantastic meet up
2:37:48
today. Great food. Great
company, so many beers to come
2:37:51
in the morning.
2:37:52
This is Nick come he had a
pretty fantastic time. According
2:37:55
to Trevor, I would agree. Thank
you
2:37:57
in the morning. This is Alicia.
Good day to have a meet up
2:38:00
inside and the winner of the
raffle. My name is Maggie
2:38:03
Delaney. I work at prodigy
burger bar. And I've been
2:38:06
helping serving the nodes and a
meetup group we hope that you
2:38:09
guys keep doing this because
it's a great thing you guys do
2:38:11
it
2:38:18
Adam Curry: I was wondering what
was going to end? Nice very
2:38:21
subliminal. Oh, no, no, no
agenda. Very nice. With the
2:38:25
ozempic pilot. It's magic tune.
And I love that you put your
2:38:29
server in there. That's the best
way to do it. One more promo.
2:38:34
Oh, yes. Let me guess. This
would be a promo for one of
2:38:39
those guys who do a meet up in
Georgia. Because this is the
2:38:44
devil went down to Georgia. I
think Hello promo start now
2:38:48
Unknown: in north Georgia slaves
is Bob from coming. Come join us
2:38:51
this Thursday from six to eight
at Cherry Street brew pub at
2:38:54
Halcyon for a monthly meetup.
You can meet your fellow knights
2:38:57
dame's producers and even some
douche bags over a nice cold
2:38:59
beer. Look for the table with
the American flag balloons to
2:39:02
find us. See you there.
2:39:04
Adam Curry: And right now as we
speak, there's a meetup going on
2:39:07
the Burke the Berkey Hui Hui.
That's Albuquerque, New Mexico
2:39:11
that sir Jeff celebrating his
birthday on the 20th On
2:39:14
Wednesday, the 21st. The two hot
Tucson Solstice soiree will be
2:39:18
held at canyons crown in Tucson,
Arizona four o'clock. Next show
2:39:23
day say hello to summer palooza.
330 Riverside Park, Oshkosh,
2:39:26
Wisconsin and the North Georgia
monthly meet up as you just
2:39:30
heard, we'll be at Cherry Street
brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.
2:39:33
Those are the meetups but
there's a lot more including
2:39:35
Batavia, Illinois, London UK
conference, who's doing the
2:39:40
conference meeting on July 9,
let us know go to no agenda
2:39:44
meetups.com To find out more and
remember connection is
2:39:46
protection. You owe it to
yourself to go to one sometimes
2:39:50
Unknown: you want to go hang out
with Tyson days. You wouldn't be
2:39:57
when you won't be triggered. You
will say
2:40:07
Adam Curry: is like it is always
like a party and the keeper and
2:40:13
I are looking forward to the end
we are going to go on a European
2:40:17
vacation this year. I think
we'll be doing all the shows a
2:40:21
scheduled might take one off
just one for travel day because
2:40:24
we're gonna go to Spain we're
going to Italy The Netherlands
2:40:28
gonna go see all the families
the old people before they die,
2:40:31
you know stuff like that.
2:40:33
John C Dvorak: Yeah, sounds like
a Leo trip.
2:40:35
Unknown: Hey, that's mean.
2:40:39
But yeah, for ISOs
2:40:41
Adam Curry: I have three here's
number one.
2:40:42
Unknown: Yes. sighs yay.
2:40:47
Adam Curry: Just always go back
to the AJ. Well, you know, or,
2:40:51
or this one while I'm impressed.
Okay, kinda good. And this is my
2:40:55
final one. It was all a scam.
2:40:59
John C Dvorak: Okay, well you
guys gone to my Well, let's go
2:41:01
with this. Start with God. Save.
2:41:04
Unknown: God save the Queen man.
2:41:07
Adam Curry: Yes, save the queen
man. Man, man.
2:41:11
Unknown: Money. Where's the
money? To boomy? Yeah, it's no
2:41:15
good. And no,
2:41:16
Adam Curry: no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no. No. Kind
2:41:20
of thing. That's the one.
2:41:23
Unknown: It's yeah, I like it.
2:41:24
Adam Curry: I mean, God Save the
Queen is.
2:41:26
Unknown: God save the Queen,
man.
2:41:30
It's too stupid.
2:41:31
Adam Curry: It is funny. I don't
I don't. I'm torn.
2:41:34
Unknown: This is God. Save the
Queen. Man. God save the Queen,
2:41:38
man.
2:41:39
Maybe you have to use I mean,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
2:41:42
no, no, no, no.
2:41:43
Adam Curry: That's gonna get
used.
2:41:46
Unknown: I don't know. Okay, use
God Save the Queen. The Queen
2:41:49
Adam Curry: man because it's
2:41:50
Unknown: just a scared of man.
And here's what makes it work,
2:41:52
man, man.
2:41:56
Adam Curry: Crazy. Oh, luckily,
we've been missing it. We got
2:42:03
another six week cycle. Did you
catch the six week cycle?
2:42:09
Unknown: I can't say that I have
2:42:11
Adam Curry: a reminder for
everybody.
2:42:12
John C Dvorak: And I'm not on
the lookout, which is an
2:42:14
interesting point that you
mentioned it.
2:42:16
Adam Curry: Well, we haven't
seen it for a while the six was
2:42:18
been a perpetual cycle
basically. But the six week
2:42:20
cycle is something that we were
read in on the FBI in particular
2:42:26
likes to Jackson Roni
2:42:27
John C Dvorak: are technically
read in on it we were informed
2:42:31
by a yes,
2:42:32
Adam Curry: yeah. Okay. informed
by a producer yes informed that
2:42:37
in order to keep their budgets
and their stature and their
2:42:40
quotas up the FBI every six
weeks needs to scam runs a scam
2:42:47
has to some have to have some
event happens so they still look
2:42:50
like they're cool and doing
stuff. And they usually take
2:42:53
some you know, mildly retarded
person or someone who's on drugs
2:42:57
and you know, just and Jack them
all up and then give him some
2:43:00
phony baloney stuff and then and
of course was social media got
2:43:05
even easier. Hey, man, post
this. Yeah, what are you going
2:43:07
to do? What are you going to do?
Come on post me send me a text
2:43:09
message put it on Insta.
2:43:11
Unknown: Tonight in court
filings. The FBI saying social
2:43:14
media accounts tied to a
Michigan man posted Nazi imagery
2:43:18
and sent messages about planning
a mass shooting at a synagogue
2:43:22
INVESTIGATORS SAY they received
a tip about those alleged
2:43:25
threats to a 19 year old Shawn
patella allegedly writing
2:43:29
expletive this world and
everything in it. I'm going to
2:43:32
start making plans soon. Just
gotta buy a few more things,
2:43:36
adding I won't be taken alive.
I'll make sure of that. Federal
2:43:40
agents safety Tella traded anti
semitic messages on Instagram
2:43:44
with a friend overseas writing I
just need a camera for streaming
2:43:48
and some more magazines don't
want to run out of mags and have
2:43:52
to reload one when FBI agents
searched the Telus home court
2:43:55
filings say they found unsecured
weapons including a 12 gauge
2:43:59
shotgun, a rifle a pistol
2:44:01
Adam Curry: unsecured weapons I
liked that that's a new offense
2:44:05
unsecured weapons when FBI used
2:44:08
John C Dvorak: in other words,
he had a shotgun without a
2:44:10
without a trigger lock on it. I
guess it wasn't in a safe which
2:44:15
you know who has those don't
want to run out of random
2:44:19
shotgun laying around and this
is now illegal and you're gonna
2:44:24
get thrown in the slammer,
2:44:25
Unknown: uh, traded anti semitic
messages on Instagram with a
2:44:28
friend overseas writing. I just
need a camera for streaming and
2:44:32
some more magazines don't want
to run out of mags and have to
2:44:36
reload one when FBI agents
searched the Telus home court
2:44:39
filings say they found unsecured
weapons including a 12 gauge
2:44:43
shotgun, a rifle, a pistol plus
tactical vests and a red and
2:44:47
white Nazi flag on his phone
agency. They found the name of a
2:44:52
Michigan synagogue and a date
March 15 2020 For the same month
2:44:57
and day as the New Zealand
mosque attack 18 that killed 51
2:45:01
people. Authorities say P Tella
admired the gunman who
2:45:05
specifically
2:45:06
have to have a threat. And also
ideally even a discussion or a
2:45:11
plan about how you're going to
carry it out.
2:45:14
The anti Defamation League says
anti semitic incidents spiked
2:45:17
36% between 2021 and 2020 to the
highest on record in close to 50
2:45:23
years and attorney for Paitilla
declined to comment but
2:45:27
investigators say he told them
he did not intend on following
2:45:30
through with the mass killings
he spoke about
2:45:33
denying it is fine, but there
may be a lot of countering
2:45:36
information to say well, that's
just not true.
2:45:41
Adam Curry: I love the Nazi flag
edition that's a new thing the
2:45:44
Nazi flag Yeah,
2:45:47
John C Dvorak: they didn't get
that right he said it was a it
2:45:49
was a white and red, white and
red. Where's the black?
2:45:52
Adam Curry: Yeah, that's not a
good flag.
2:45:54
John C Dvorak: There's no white
and red Nazi flag that I know
2:45:57
of.
2:45:57
Adam Curry: There's no white and
red in Nazi
2:46:02
John C Dvorak: Yep, so yeah,
that you know it was what would
2:46:04
call me was running the place it
was more creative.
2:46:08
Adam Curry: They had
2:46:08
John C Dvorak: better material
they did they really developed a
2:46:11
guys they had a better budget.
I'm not sure what's going on.
2:46:14
Adam Curry: It was just more
creative, though. Just more
2:46:17
creative, and it was more
2:46:18
Unknown: creative as lame. And I
know what are you gonna do? I'm
2:46:21
gonna do
2:46:24
Adam Curry: I think we should
honor the this man who passed
2:46:29
away
2:46:30
Unknown: tonight tributes
rolling in for Daniel Ellsberg,
2:46:33
the largely unknown Pentagon
analysts during the Vietnam War,
2:46:36
later labeled the most dangerous
man in America by Secretary of
2:46:40
State Henry Kissinger. All after
Ellsberg leaked the pentagon
2:46:43
papers to the New York Times and
later, the Washington Post 7000
2:46:48
secret government pages showing
the US government had been
2:46:51
misleading the public about the
growing scope of America's role
2:46:55
in Vietnam, and that the
military doubted its chances of
2:46:58
victory. I still
2:47:00
nothing. I did not commit
espionage. As indicated by the
2:47:04
Espionage Act.
2:47:05
It led to a landmark Supreme
Court decision on press freedom
2:47:08
that helped inspire a generation
of investigative journalists.
2:47:12
When the Nixon administration
typed newspapers from
2:47:15
publishing, the justices sided
with the press and criminal
2:47:18
charges against Ellsberg were
later thrown out by a judge,
2:47:22
citing in part a breaking by the
White House plumbers that
2:47:25
Ellsberg former psychiatrists
office, seen as a warm up to the
2:47:29
Watergate burglary that would
bring down President Nixon.
2:47:32
Adam Curry: Yeah, so much for
Julian Assange.
2:47:36
John C Dvorak: So I got to meet
Ellsberg. Oh, nice guy. I
2:47:42
chatted with him at some event
they had over here in San
2:47:44
Francisco. Larry Lessig brought
him into some Oh, Larry. Good
2:47:49
old good old Larry. Larry so I
don't have a clip but there was
2:47:54
a great Capehart and Brooks
little thing because they go on
2:47:59
and on about what a horrible
people Assange and Snowden
2:48:04
actually are and Ellsberg is
great. It was just a fun he's
2:48:07
really awesome switch gears
2:48:11
Adam Curry: interesting well,
that of course is because they
2:48:13
got a Republican out. You know,
Pentagon Papers screwed Nixon
2:48:16
somehow in the Andrea Mitchell
eludes
2:48:21
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, kinda
was embarrassing us about all it
2:48:27
was It wasn't anything people
didn't know.
2:48:29
Adam Curry: Right? I have. Do
you have anything you want to
2:48:33
play us out with?
2:48:34
John C Dvorak: I can play us out
with a couple of clips from the
2:48:36
Iowa meet up that we were there
was actually this woman. She was
2:48:40
on PBS of all places. Iowa meet
up and no, it wasn't me. It was
2:48:45
a pollster. There's a meet up
going. Iowa has always meet up
2:48:48
she for the elections. And so
they had they have these. This
2:48:53
pollster was a famous Republican
pollster. She's talking to Trump
2:48:58
people. I have three clips, and
they're worth listening to.
2:49:01
They're number two.
2:49:02
Adam Curry: Now these mega Magaz
2:49:06
John C Dvorak: yep, I would say
they probably are Iowa pollster
2:49:08
PBS.
2:49:09
Unknown: JUDY WOODRUFF was in
Des Moines, Iowa yesterday for
2:49:12
her America at a crossroads
reporting project to listen in
2:49:16
on a couple of voter discussions
led by conservative pollster
2:49:19
Sarah Longwell since it was the
day of the Trump arraignment.
2:49:23
She made that the focus of the
first of two reports on what I
2:49:27
will Republicans are thinking
this was produced with our
2:49:30
friends at Iowa PBS.
2:49:32
Adam Curry: Yeah, we should
mention that I was an important
2:49:35
states because that always
indicates the the temperature of
2:49:38
the nation.
2:49:39
John C Dvorak: Well, these
Republicans are are kind of
2:49:43
interesting because they have
they seem to be very
2:49:46
knowledgeable what's going on
and they're very skeptical of
2:49:49
everything. They're more
skeptical than the average bear.
2:49:53
It seems to me. Here's clip to
2:49:54
Unknown: focus group I do with
two time Trump voters. They were
2:49:59
very clear and did date mints
actually made them want to
2:50:02
support Trump more? Which is
really consistent? I mean, we've
2:50:06
been asking people for several
months, you know, how are you?
2:50:10
How does it make you feel when
you hear that Trump's data does
2:50:12
it make you want to support more
support and last out of the 58
2:50:16
people that we've asked 26 of
them said, it makes them want to
2:50:20
support Donald Trump more. Only
two said less. They're a little
2:50:24
bit mixed on whether Trump is
exactly the right person to be
2:50:28
the person who comes back but
still after January 6, after the
2:50:33
indictments after everything,
still a lot of support for
2:50:36
Donald Trump
2:50:37
Adam Curry: must be Nazis
2:50:41
John C Dvorak: and they won it
anyway they go on and he talked
2:50:43
to all these people is very
interesting that people can dig
2:50:45
out from last Wednesday's PBS
NewsHour, they and then they had
2:50:49
a follow up on Thursday, I would
go back and watch that it's
2:50:52
online. Now. The one that got me
though, is this. This is the
2:50:55
last very short clip where they
she asked him specific questions
2:50:59
and then they raised their
hands. And I have to say that
2:51:03
this is to at least I was
shaking my head on this one
2:51:07
because it was like, wow,
2:51:09
Unknown: that deep seated
distrust extended to the 2020
2:51:13
election results and their
aftermath to
2:51:16
how many of you believe Joe
Biden was legitimately elected
2:51:18
president the United States How
many of you believe that the
2:51:21
election was stolen? Or rigged
in some way? Okay, everybody
2:51:28
100 frickin percent.
2:51:31
Everybody, everybody.
2:51:32
Adam Curry: Wow. Oh, that's
good. That's good. stolen,
2:51:38
stolen you election deniers,
Nazis, horrible people. Someone
2:51:43
sent me a note and said, after I
heard your comments about Trump
2:51:46
on the last episode, I'm
thinking you're a liberal.
2:51:52
Unknown: Let's just say I don't
2:51:54
Adam Curry: know. I know. You're
a liberal. I don't think so. Oh,
2:52:02
speaking of 100 frickin percent
great comedian. I wish I had his
2:52:06
name here on this clip, just 43
seconds. This is my pet peeve. I
2:52:10
wouldn't say 100% 100% as 100%
instead of saying absolutely
2:52:16
clearly all the way Definitely
spot on.
2:52:21
Unknown: Instead of Yes. Instead
of Yes. People often say they
2:52:23
don't say yes, but they say 100%
Like I asked a question and they
2:52:31
give me statistics
2:52:37
instead of yes, they give me the
percentage of esns mean it's
2:52:45
always it's always hungry.
Sometimes it's sounds stupid.
2:52:51
Like it sounds like like did you
did you pay taxes? Yeah. 100%
2:52:59
Well, I think you'll pay too
much. Thank you.
2:53:04
Adam Curry: I'm not the only one
noticing this insanity. Luckily.
2:53:09
Ah, well Happy Father's Day to
you, John. That Happy Father's
2:53:14
Day to you. And Happy Father's
Day to all the fathers out
2:53:16
there. You do important work you
matter you're seeing your heard.
2:53:24
We have end of show mixes from
see who did this one. I wish I
2:53:30
knew this the Armistice Day. We
have DS laughs We have Tom Stark
2:53:38
where the first one up, unedited
by the way his first mix. And
2:53:42
Jesse Coyne Nelson. And on no
agenda stream we've got the hog
2:53:45
story to John Fletcher and Dame
Carolyn Blaney. They'll be
2:53:49
playing with their barbecue
toys. And coming to you from the
2:53:52
heart of the Texas hill country
here in FEMA Region number six
2:53:56
in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry
2:53:58
John C Dvorak: in from Northern
Silicon Valley where Tomorrow's
2:54:01
a holiday. I'm Jesse Dvorak.
Yes, enjoy
2:54:04
Adam Curry: your Juneteenth
everybody. And please do
2:54:08
remember us at divorce
act.org/na We'll be back on
2:54:13
Thursday with another media
deconstruction just for you.
2:54:16
Until then adios mofos a hui,
Hui, and such
2:54:28
Unknown: and now, I'm standing
next to the president again next
2:54:32
to a collapsed bridge here. And
he is here to commit to work
2:54:36
with the governor and the
delegation to make sure that we
2:54:42
get this fixed quick, fast as
well to this is a president that
2:54:46
is committed to and fractured.
And then on top of that, the
2:54:51
jewel, kind of a law of the
infinite fresh and fresh
2:54:57
inflation Bill that is going to
make sure that there's going to
2:55:01
be bridges all across like this
all across America getting
2:55:04
rebuilt.
2:55:06
You're watching people fight.
You're watching people lose and
2:55:12
Adam Curry: pharmacist was our
armistice Am I saying it right I
2:55:16
miss not being able to say
pharmacist or pharmacists. What
2:55:21
is it? What is it
2:55:23
John C Dvorak: you'll never say
I get it now I had to set it I
2:55:26
visualized the word I was about
to say and then you start
2:55:28
Adam Curry: pharmacist
pharmacist armed I said I said
2:55:31
it right armatus There you go.
Armitage. Armitage is yes it is
2:55:34
a RM a tea ice Armistice Day
armistice armistice. Does it
2:55:39
sound right to you? Yes, it
does. Now armistice that's where
2:55:42
they signed the armistice
agreement armistice armistice
2:55:45
you're right armistice.
2:55:52
Unknown: You're watching people
by the way, you're watching
2:55:56
people losing on Armistice Day
2:56:00
that are kind of company these
medications can trigger
2:56:03
temporary hair shedding and hair
loss. The hair follicles can
2:56:07
shrink and produce thinner and
shorter strands and this can
2:56:10
lead to certain patterns of hair
loss. male pattern hair loss
2:56:14
mechanic alopecia misuse can
cause progressive hair loss that
2:56:18
could become permanent. You have
to you have to treat the whole
2:56:22
person and that's what this
headline is really about. All
2:56:24
Well
2:56:25
Adam Curry: done. Well done.
You've debunked the stupid
2:56:28
headline Dr. Jenn keep on taking
your ozempic People have nothing
2:56:31
to see here. It's all good and
when
2:56:33
Unknown: your hair all falls on
your balls milliard don't worry
2:56:36
about it. At least you're thin
2:56:38
and boxy Tucker Carlson the
split CNN told on the mind video
2:56:44
that said pineapple pizza is
fine by me point of personal
2:56:48
privilege and preference in the
Kamala Harris as wishes high as
2:56:52
NATO pushes the Ukraine a key
point number five top you clip
2:56:57
Stopstopstop in a clip love this
show even when mommy and daddy
2:57:01
fight the lead assholes think
about what you think about Roy
2:57:05
Wood was good at the
correspondents White House.
2:57:08
Comics nowadays even into the
culture war forced to play no
2:57:11
longer just for last media more
intentional weight loss at a
2:57:15
loss for word obesity is out of
control these epic phrases of
2:57:18
Sir data control so many drugs
to me, Eli Lilly and diabetes
2:57:23
drugs and now in grade 30% all
the learners to Jabba shot
2:57:27
stress test the public and mass
formation as well we got from
2:57:31
the outside. Feels like OSI
politics is show business for
2:57:36
Ugly people. I mean, why not
love the trolls? It never gets
2:57:40
old to 1800 on Thursday 24 On a
Sunday stick around for the
2:57:45
donations don't run away
2:57:49
Adam Curry: in a troll room and
they and there's not a lot of
2:57:52
them which is nice. Yes, I'm
going to write it down on the
2:57:54
sticky
2:57:58
Unknown: it's lovely June
18 2032 and celebrity trans
2:58:02
species influencer Shazam duck
frog goat gets a surprise call
2:58:06
it home.
2:58:10
O M G, its president Big Mike
with powerful words of support.
2:58:15
What's going on? Tell me what's
on your mind. Yeah, I am just so
2:58:23
proud of you being just an
amazing role model and embracing
2:58:28
your truth. You're already doing
this. So maybe this is for some
2:58:33
other young people that are
listening. Your age or in the
2:58:40
teenage years in probably
through your 20s you're going to
2:58:45
be experimenting with so many
versions of yourself right.
2:58:52
Next, Vice President Alexandria
Ocasio. Cortez speaks with the
2:59:01
trans woodblock.
2:59:11
vora.org/in
2:59:15
A God Save the Queen man