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July 9th, 2023 • 2h 55m

1571: Wronk

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Adam Curry: Okay, Frenchie. Adam curry Jhansi Devorah 920 23 This
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Year Award winning chemo nation media assassination episode
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1571.
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Unknown: This is no agenda to many your
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Adam Curry: cameras and microphones and broadcasting
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live from the heart of the Texas no country here in FEMA Region
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number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all
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wondering why our cluster bombs a good idea. I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Unknown: Buzzkill.
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Adam Curry: This has got to be the funniest news story of the
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week. Because it's not just cluster bombs. It's cluster
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bombs with a very low dud rate.
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John C Dvorak: Yes, that's right. Every of the dud rate
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goes through the bomb cluster and make How do you test? How do
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you test this? I'm asking, well, let's listen to Apple. Watch
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them all up to see what the dead rate was.
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Adam Curry: This is Adam Smith, a Democrat from I believe
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Washington.
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Unknown: I mean, in March last year, as UN Ambassador
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criticized Russia for its deployment of cluster munitions
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saying they had no place on the battlefield quite enough about
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turn by the Biden administration. This, the
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Russian cluster munitions have about a 30 to 40% death rate.
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They're spreading unexploded ordnance all over Ukraine, the
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weapons that we're sending have a death rate of just over 1%,
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which is a dramatic difference. Yeah. And oh, yeah,
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Adam Curry: foam finger number one baby, we got a dramatically
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lowered dud rate of Washington as a very high dud rate,
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Washington DC this, this? This is unbelievable statistic. And
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why and why? Oh, Adam Smith explains again, on the BBC. Why
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do we have to send the Oso loved cluster bombs with low duck rate
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to Ukraine, we would much
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Unknown: rather not have introduced this weapon, which is
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why we didn't do it until we got to the point where it was
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basically the only ammo that we have left to offer them.
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Interesting. It's interesting to say that the only ammo we have
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left. I mean, I mean, could it just be Could it just be that
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this is a bridging operation, and at such time where the
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United States is able to supply more shells to Ukraine, these
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cluster munitions will not be necessary? Yes, thank
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you. And actually, I put that poorly. They corrected me
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properly. And I appreciate that. We are in a gap. We don't have
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they still have other ammunition. At the current pace
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of battle, they will have to begin to severely restrict its
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use and eventually run out if these weapons aren't used. And
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the other thing that we are doing all of our allies, the 53
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nations that are working together on this are ramping up
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production of other ordinates. And yes, that would be the plan
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to get back to that. And the bigger plan would be to force
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Russia to the peace table so we can end the war entirely.
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bomb them, bomb them and bomb them again.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, baby. Oh, it's a way to force
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John C Dvorak: force rushing rushing to the peace table. You
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gotta forces Alinsky to the peace table.
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Adam Curry: I mean, these things, all we've ever heard is
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how horrible people are used these things.
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John C Dvorak: This somebody must have a clip of Jen Psaki
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when she was the Press Secretary saying that cost that according
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to the president cluster bombs are a war crime. Oh, wow. I
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Adam Curry: wish
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John C Dvorak: I don't think we have it. Well reasonably run
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that clip.
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Adam Curry: What do I have McCain here for some reason.
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What's this McCain clip what is this from? This is from 2015.
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Let's have a little listen.
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Unknown: Again. This week. We've seen the skies over Donetsk.
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It's suspected that it could be incendiary munitions, which
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international conventions banned from use in civilian populated
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areas. I think July they were reportedly dropped from cities
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controlled by anti government forces. Well, international
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observers have previously called the Ukrainian army using
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prohibited weapons. The use of cluster bombs in populated areas
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was confirmed by the humans right. In October. The watchdogs
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report stress that this could amount to war crimes. But for
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some US politicians kyiv's use of cluster bombs he's
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justifiable
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we would have provided them with a weapons and he wouldn't have
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had to use cluster bombs is partially our fault.
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Adam Curry: It's the same thing it's a repeat to repeat
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John C Dvorak: our fall by the way our fault to be would have
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to give him cluster bombs if we'd give him more above
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everything else because exactly what the guy from Washington
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said
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Adam Curry: except that was 2015 and McCain was still alive.
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Yeah. Okay, let's listen to Jason budget
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John C Dvorak: douche by the way getting douche bag is running
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our country. All now there's an
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Unknown: astute observation. First, we are security
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assistance decision on Ukraine's needs on the ground, they got
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needs on the ground baby. And Ukraine needs artillery to
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sustain its offensive and defensive operations. Artillery
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is at the core of this conflict. Ukraine is firing 1000s of
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rounds a day to defend against Russian efforts to advance and
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also to support its own efforts to retake its sovereign
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territory. We have provided Ukraine with a historic amount
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of unitary artillery rounds,
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Adam Curry: unitary artillery rounds, doesn't sound like
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anything good. And we are ramping
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John C Dvorak: up unitary, what he means is single, single Yeah,
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not cluster. But he has to use the word unit, whatever it
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Adam Curry: was unitary artillery bombs,
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Unknown: and we are ramping up domestic production of these
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rounds. We've already seen substantial increases in
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production, but this process will continue to take time. And
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it will be critical to provide Ukraine with a bridge of
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supplies, while our domestic production is ramped up. We will
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not leave Ukraine defenseless at any point in this conflict.
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Adam Curry: So because and we shouldn't even have these
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things, I guess, because you know, it's mean to kill people
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in different ways. Unitary killing fine cluster killing,
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not good. So they've got all these all these excuses. And the
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main one is we're out of we're out of ammo, sorry. Oh, no one,
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no one wants to want to attack us. Second.
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Unknown: Russia has been using clustered munitions since the
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start of this war to attack Ukraine. Russia has been using
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cluster munitions with high dud or fairly high DoD between 30.
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Here we go again, in this environment, Ukraine has been
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requesting cluster munitions in order to defend its own
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sovereign territory. The cluster munitions that we would provide
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have done rates far below what Russia is doing, is providing
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enough higher than 2.5% Oh, wait
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Adam Curry: a minute, it was 1%. Now it's 2.5%. I think we have a
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dud rate issue here. What is our actual dud rate? I think that
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should be the topic of conversation for the entire
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week. And third,
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Unknown: we are closely coordinating with Ukraine, as it
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has requested these munitions. Ukraine is committed to post
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constant t minus a
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John C Dvorak: what I'm just saying, what this whole
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discussion and the depth of it is pathetic. These things should
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be we're like one of the two or three countries in the world
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that refuse to sign a treaty that's never used these weapons
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because they're junk. They're done. They're bad for civilian
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populations in the debate, right? No matter what it is, is
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a bunch of does over there. People step on it. I like mines
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Adam Curry: for this this man. Yeah, go ahead. And what you
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were saying and
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John C Dvorak: oh, I said it. Oh, did I get cut off? Yeah, I
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guess so. Good.
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Unknown: Ukraine is committed to post conflict, demining efforts
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to mitigate any potential harm to civilians. And this will be
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necessary regardless of whether the United States provides these
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motions. Because of Russia's widespread use of cluster
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munitions,
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Adam Curry: they use cluster munitions so we can use class
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70s. There's a lot of information going on about the
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class of munitions. Here's CBS
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Unknown: terrifying, lethal and highly effective Ukraine is no
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stranger. Right. Both sides have been accused of deploying them
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since Russia launched its invasion, but they did it first
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with devastating effect. It's a weapon that breaks up mid air as
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it approaches its target, injecting a number of smaller
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explosives or bomblets bomb lettering indiscriminately
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across an area that can stretch to the size of several football
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fields. Most of those explosives detonate, but not all posing a
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threat to the civilian population long after the war is
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ending, especially children. Here in heart Kyiv investigators
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have built a mountain of Russian munitions and evidence of their
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evidence and billionaires evidence. These are just some of
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the Russian cluster bombs that have been recovered here in the
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Hartke region and this dude,
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Adam Curry: are we in middle school? I mean, that's what look
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I have evidence that they use the bomblets so we can use the
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bomblets
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Unknown: is an example of a Detonated Bomb lit which would
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have been packed with explosives
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Adam Curry: somehow bomb would just doesn't sound like it take
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you could take your leg off or anything does it's like it's
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it's a bomb omelet. It's like an omelet with
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John C Dvorak: each one of them's a hand grenade basically.
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Unknown: Ukraine says it needs the help in a stalled counter
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offensive against entrench backing the White House
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John C Dvorak: stop the clip. How about how come this isn't
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being discussed more as well? I didn't hear it was a stalled
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counter offensive it was stalled
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Adam Curry: because they were waiting for the bomblets. The
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DoD rate was too high. stalled. This is bold because they told
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us it was well underway. Part of the drones was was part of the
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offensive. Then the member that crazy, that crazy brigade that
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also had a media event.
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John C Dvorak: And although never Wagner
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Adam Curry: no, no, that wasn't Wagner. It was it was.
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John C Dvorak: There was some other brigade You're right asmof
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Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, it was yet another Isaac Asimov,
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the Asimov. The asmof guys are gone. There's nothing left of
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them. BOCES
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Unknown: Ukraine says it needs the help in a stalled counter
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offensive against entrenched Russian troops backing the White
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House's argument that the use of the controversial weapons is on
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Ukraine's watch.
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Ukraine would not be using these munitions in some foreign land
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if this is their country they're defending. These are their
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citizens they're protecting. The prosecutor's
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office told us trainee military will have to do all they can to
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avoid their use in urban areas. Now this latest aid package $800
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million brings the US total to more than $41 billion since the
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invasion began
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Adam Curry: now bull crap I'm sick and tired of these numbers.
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I've counted over 140 billion. This is not true. Oh now it's
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only 40 No, we've been giving him so much.
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John C Dvorak: It's 37 it says 800 800 million a pop
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Adam Curry: it's bomblets we got done right.
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John C Dvorak: Now what do we have a bunch of stockpile of
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these things? What are we doing with them?
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Adam Curry: Well, NBC Meet the Press had a two parter Courtney
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Unknown: explained to me, what about these cluster bombs make
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them so controversial? And how soon can you see them in
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Ukraine?
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Adam Curry: Well, unlike other bombs, these kill people,
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Unknown: so it's the dud rate is really the drag nations more
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than 100 have actually outlawed these munitions. What that means
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is, these are ammunition that when it explodes, it releases a
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bunch of small little bombs or munitions, called bomb lists.
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main missions one is anti armor.
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Adam Curry: I'd like a truckstop bomber, please. So it's a shape
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Unknown: charge that essentially can pierce an up armored
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vehicle. The other is anti Pro.
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Adam Curry: That's a new term an up armored vehicle not just
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armored vehicle an up armored vehicle. This is some this is
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some warfare talk we're getting here from NBC Meet the Press
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Unknown: two main missions, one is anti armor. So it's a shape
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charge that essentially can pierce an up armored vehicle.
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The other is antipersonnel. That is what we often hear military
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talking about frags or fragmentations. Actually, those
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are the munitions that explode into even smaller pieces. Think
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about that when it impacts the body. Ryan Of course it has the
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potential to injure or kill anyone in its path. So these
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munitions when they release these bomblets, depending on the
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type of cluster munitions, some of them have a very high death
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rate, meaning that the bomblets don't immediately explode. These
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have the potential to to cause danger, catastrophic destruction
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to someone, a civilian, even a child who may have stumbled upon
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them. Oh, hello,
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Adam Curry: Oh, hold on a second, NBC MEET THE PRESS HOLD
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THE PRESS bomblets might be bad for children's health.
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Unknown: Weeks, months, even years later, that's one of the
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reasons that human rights groups and many and many nations have
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have said condemned the use of these sorts of in the
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battlefield, I should say, the US says that the version that
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they're going to send has a very low dud rate somewhere in the
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neighborhood of one and a half to about two and a half percent.
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What is it as opposed to some of the other ones that we've seen?
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According to the US the ones that the Russians are using?
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Have somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 to 40%? Oh,
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yeah, Russian
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Adam Curry: bombers are crap. All right. They're
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John C Dvorak: the brushes don't know what the dangerous ones it
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may create.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, the bomblets are turning the frags gay. I
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mean, this is an insane discussion they're having
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they're just cavalierly discussing and weapons that are
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outlawed by 100 countries. But no, it's for Ukraine. Yeah,
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Unknown: according you mentioned that there are other countries
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who are opposed to the use of this type of weapon. Some of
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them are NATO countries. And of course, the President is going
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to be with some of these NATO countries next week. Will he get
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some pushback from these countries?
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Adam Curry: No, no, because he has a 100% dud rate. There's no
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problem
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Unknown: decision. And not just NATO countries. But I mean,
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we're talking about the closest US allies who are part of NATO
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who are opposed to the use of these weapons. Now, the US
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before they announced this today, they spoke to most of
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these countries, many of them, they reached out, they gave them
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a heads up that this was coming. The officials have been speaking
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to here say, look, the country these these allies have said
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they're against the US but they don't expect any widespread
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public pushback on it. There's a real threat ignition here have
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exactly what we heard from President Biden just moments ago
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that Ukraine needs ammunition. These have the ability to
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essentially fill a bridge while where the Ukraine right now has
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a real deficit in artillery rounds particularly 155 rounds.
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This will be something that they can use in that place while the
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US and other nations really ramp up production of the artillery
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rounds so they can keep Ukraine in the
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Adam Curry: fight 155 rounds well now can you shoot the
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bomblets the cluster bombs from the same 155 millimeter cannon
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seems likely what do you oh wow these look these look bad these
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hot these are the howitzers the 155155 That's
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John C Dvorak: the one that invested before the Warriors
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made a lot of money
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Adam Curry: and so cluster cluster shells I wonder what the
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hunt can you shoot those out of?
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John C Dvorak: doesn't really say as a bomb as a shell
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Adam Curry: me Okay, so you shoot it like a mortar? I don't
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know what this is just it's disturbing. This is disturbing.
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We are the biggest eight holes in the universe right now. Do we
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not see that? I mean, we see it but and this is just bad.
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John C Dvorak: I have a series of clips.
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Adam Curry: Ah, is this the girl stuff?
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John C Dvorak: No, no, no. Okay. No, no, girl girl. That's good.
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That's good. No, no, no, what you'll get there was a Ukraine
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clip.
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Adam Curry: Okay, good.
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John C Dvorak: This guy's name is Shaheed Bolson. Actually
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Shaheed King Bolson. Don't ever read about him before I play
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these clips. Because this guy is an operative for someone. I
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don't know who he's an asset or something. I don't know. I can't
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figure it out. Because when you listen, listen to him. He sounds
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like a Middle East expert.
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Adam Curry: He has a Twitter account. Who just saying
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John C Dvorak: and well, let's just just listen to the first
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clip and then I and I explained who this guy is this Ukraine
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analysis Shahid one,
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Unknown: let me talk for a moment about Poland in relation
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to the US proxy war against Europe popularly known as the
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Ukraine war. As I've stated since the outbreak of the war.
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In my opinion, the Ukraine war is a US proxy war not against
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Russia, but against Europe. It is the launch pad for a
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continent wide destabilization project that will create
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conflict zone conditions across Europe, it will divide the EU
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against itself, it will D industrialize the continent and
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turn it into another laboratory for the imposition of severe
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neoliberal austerity policies that will wipe out all except
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the largest private sector players and basically refute
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allies Europe. Now Poland appears to have been selected by
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the United States to act as their hub of operations for
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implementing this program. But before I get into that, let's go
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back to one of the earliest examples of this type of
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project, the Dirty Wars in Central and South America in the
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1980s. When I was growing up, I was always interested in the
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news and current affairs and world events and so on. And the
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evening news every night was dominated by stories of savagery
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in places like Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala and
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Argentine uncle Don wars, death squads, abductions, torture, and
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all forms of brutality proliferated the entire region.
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Now, all of this was orchestrated out of the American
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Embassy in Honduras, under the management of then US Ambassador
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John Negroponte, whom locals referred to as Mr. Death Squad.
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Honduras had the largest US Embassy, they had the biggest TV
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station, and the country became the staging ground for a
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regional destabilization project that continued throughout the
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1980s.
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Adam Curry: Wow, okay. All right, hold on. I'm just gonna
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give it to you upfront, because I know what's going to happen. I
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can just give it to you right up front. This is dynamite. This of
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course, it's so obvious. Now. This is a complete
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destabilization of Europe. And we're going to squash them like
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a bug like a boat on
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John C Dvorak: the EU, as our friend Nuland said,
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Adam Curry: oh goodness,
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John C Dvorak: if we go back to that, and we listen to this
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clip, and we listen to the FT EU, we start to understand what
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might actually be going on.
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Adam Curry: We should just know not everyone understands this
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because they weren't around when we played this the first time in
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2014. This is when the US was installing a new government into
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Ukraine. And Victoria Nuland was caught with well was recorded it
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high quality,
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John C Dvorak: very high quality by the Russians obvious on a
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phone
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Adam Curry: call. Always she was talking to her compatriots who I
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think was Was he the ambassador at the time? Not sure ambassador
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and maybe but they were discussing you know who we got
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to put in? Yeah Klich no clutches no good we got up that
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guy and yeah we can have Biden come out here and bless the deal
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He'll kiss the babies it'll all be good Biden by then we got the
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Biden come in and and then it was like well you know they're
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not gonna like what we're doing the EU but and then she just
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said that fuck the EU and there you have it with great disdain
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and yes we play that clip again. It's in there somewhere Well No,
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I know of course I can find it. Newland, here we go for a little
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bit until we're tired of it.
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Unknown: What do you think?
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I think we're in play. The Klitschko pieces, obviously the
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complicated electron here, especially the announcement of
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him as deputy prime minister and you've seen some of my notes on
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the troubles in the marriage right now. So we're trying to
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get a read really fast on where he is on listen
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Adam Curry: to these these terms they use. Were in play. Yeah,
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like we got a little trouble here on the marriage because
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they're just they're just this like shotgun wedding, we were
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fusing everything together handing out cookies
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Unknown: stuff. But I think your argument to him, which you'll
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need to make, I think that's the next phone call we want to set
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up is exactly the one you made to yachts. And I'm glad you
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Adam Curry: said seosten yoke, who later did become prime
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minister for a moment or put him on
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Unknown: the spot on where he sits in this scenario. And I'm
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very glad he said what he said in response.
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John C Dvorak: Oh, we should also mention that Klitschko is
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currently the mayor, Mayor of
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Adam Curry: ukef. Key.
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Unknown: Good. So I don't think we should go into the
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government. I don't think it's necessary. I don't think it's a
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good idea.
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Adam Curry: So I just make it not happen. That's how that's
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how democratically elected countries work. Victoria Nuland
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says, I don't think he should go in and he doesn't.
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Unknown: Yeah, I mean, I guess
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Adam Curry: he's not agreeing by the way.
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Unknown: You think in terms of him not going into the
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government just let him sort of stay out and do his political
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homework and stuff. I'm just thinking in terms of sort of the
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process moving ahead. We want to keep the moderate Democrats
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together the problem is going to be tiny book and his guys know
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tiny man, you know, I'm sure that's part of what Janna COVID
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is calculating on all of this.
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Adam Curry: Jana COVID was, was that the guy that we're putting
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in it was the guy was going out? I can't remember where he was
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the guy going out I think it was
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Unknown: I think yards is the guy who's got the economic
22:38
experience the governing experience. He's He's the gut
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you know, what he needs is clutch and tiny book on the
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outside he needs to be talking to them four times a week.
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Adam Curry: Now see now actually not just putting people into
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government but but arranging their agenda,
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John C Dvorak: doing their calendar for the calendar, you
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know, this is a Democrat report. This is the democratic demo
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monetary that we're saving for democracy democracy.
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Unknown: I just think cleats going in? He's gonna be at that
23:09
level, working for Yatseniuk. It's just not gonna work.
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Adam Curry: Okay, what do you think John? Not gonna work? I
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think just not gonna work. Political homework on the
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outside? Good. What
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Unknown: do you want us to try to set up a call with him? Is
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the next step.
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My understanding from that call, but you tell me was that the big
23:30
three? We're going into their own meeting? And that yeah, I
23:33
was gonna offer in that context. Three weeks, you know, three
23:37
plus one conversation or three plus two with you? Is that not
23:40
how you understood it? No, I
23:42
think I mean, that's what he proposed. But I think just
23:44
knowing the dynamic that's been with them where Klitschko has
23:48
been the top dog, he's gonna take a while to show up for
23:50
whatever meeting they've got. And he's probably talking to his
23:52
guys at this point. So I think you reaching out directly to him
23:56
helps with a personality management among the three and
23:59
this is
24:00
Adam Curry: literally how we used to pitch like, you know,
24:02
Gillette, all right, you talk to you talk to your guy, and I'll
24:05
talk to my guy and you work him from the back end and we'll get
24:08
the big three or maybe three plus two, we'll get him into the
24:11
meeting. We'll pitch them on with a PowerPoint and it will be
24:14
good to go
24:14
Unknown: and it gives you also a chance to move fast on all this
24:18
stuff and put us behind you behind it before they all sit
24:21
down and he
24:22
Adam Curry: Oh yeah, let's move fast before they figured out
24:24
what we how we've hoodwinked them, he explains why he
24:26
doesn't. This is good to review. There's I can see there's trolls
24:30
who have never heard this recording. They have
24:33
John C Dvorak: no 2014 So it's a bit it's a bit like nine years
24:37
ago it is
24:38
Unknown: okay, I'm happy Why don't you reach out to him and
24:41
see if he wants to talk before after
24:44
Adam Curry: all right. How do we put a bow bow on this? Vicki?
24:46
How do we wrap this all up? Well,
24:48
Unknown: thanks. Okay, I've
24:49
now written Oh, one more wrinkle for you. Joe
24:51
Adam Curry: wrinkle wrinkle standby. Jeff, I got a wrinkle.
24:54
Yeah, I
24:56
Unknown: can't remember if I told you this, or if I only told
24:58
Washington this
24:59
Adam Curry: that Yeah. because you know you're not in the loop
25:01
on everything, Jeff just so you know, when I talked to
25:03
Unknown: Jeff Feltman this morning, he had a new name for
25:06
the UN guy, Robert Serry, did I read that this morning? Yeah, I
25:10
saw that. He's now gotten both salary and Bonnke moon to agree
25:15
that salary could come in Monday or Tuesday
25:18
Adam Curry: all restaurant they had Bunky moon and on the deal,
25:20
the Secretary General of the UN to bless the deal, punky Moon
25:24
will come in. They guys have dead anyway, just Whoa, they
25:27
didn't even speak English. Just let them mumble. Okay.
25:31
Unknown: So that would be great. I think to help glue this thing
25:34
and have the UN help glue it. Yeah,
25:36
Adam Curry: have the UN help glue it because that's what's
25:38
good glue, glue it
25:40
Unknown: and you know,
25:41
the EU. Yeah, exactly.
25:43
And I think we've got to do something to make it stick to
25:46
exactly.
25:47
Adam Curry: Let's just go back for a second. So she's saying,
25:49
we'll have the we'll have the UN glue it because clearly the
25:54
United European Union is like what are you guys doing in our
25:57
backyard? This is not so cool. So we're gonna have this thing
26:01
glued for the whole world and fuck you. Fuck yeah,
26:05
Unknown: we you know if I only told Washington this that when I
26:08
talked to Jeff Feltman
26:09
John C Dvorak: lightweight, which was she said, Fuck the EU?
26:13
I think she was specifically saying we're going to have the
26:16
UN do it and fucka you meaning we're bite? We're skipping them
26:21
by there. Anything that they have to say about it? Yeah, cuz
26:24
Adam Curry: the UN greater than sign EU.
26:27
Unknown: Morning. He had a new name for the UN guy, Robert.
26:30
Sorry. Did I read that this morning? Yeah, I saw that. He's
26:35
now gotten both salary and Bonnke moon to agree that salary
26:39
could come in Monday or Tuesday. Okay. So that would be great, I
26:43
think to help glue this thing and have the UN help glue it.
26:47
And you know, fuck that, you
26:49
know? Exactly. And I think we've got to do something to make it
26:52
stick together. Because you can be pretty sure that if it does,
26:55
if it does start to gain altitude, the Russians will
26:58
Adam Curry: be working behind the scenes, it's gonna gain
27:00
altitude. Alright, bring in Biden try to torpedo it.
27:03
Unknown: And again, the fact that this is out there right
27:05
now, I'm still trying to figure out in my mind, why Yana COVID
27:09
that, but in the meantime, there's a Party of Regions
27:12
faction meeting going on right now. And I'm sure there's a
27:15
lively argument going on in that group at this point. But anyway,
27:20
we could, we could land jelly set up on this one if we move
27:23
fast. So let me work on or they work on Klitschko and if you can
27:27
just keep I think we want to try to get somebody within
27:30
international personality to come out here and help to
27:34
midwife this saying, Oh,
27:35
Adam Curry: someone with international personality needs
27:37
to come out and midwife this thing.
27:39
Unknown: The other issue is some kind of outreach to Yanukovych,
27:42
but we probably regroup on that tomorrow as we see how things
27:45
start to fall into place.
27:47
So on that piece, Jeff, when I wrote the note solitons, come
27:51
back to me VFR saying you need Biden and I said probably
27:55
tomorrow,
27:56
Adam Curry: Jake Sullivan, by any chance anybody you saying
27:59
yeah has to be Jake Solomon. Yeah, he's got Biden. He's got
28:01
Biden. Yeah, he's got the 100% dud midwife, this
28:04
Unknown: thing and then the other. The other issue is some
28:06
kind of outreach to Yanukovych, but we probably regroup on that
28:10
tomorrow as we see how things start to fall into place.
28:13
So on that piece, Jeff, when I wrote the note solitons come
28:17
back to me VFR saying you need Biden and I said probably
28:21
tomorrow for an attaboy and to get the deeds to stick.
28:25
Adam Curry: Oh, Biden will come out for an attaboy and get the
28:27
deeds to sick. Greg, thanks, Good work, good work. No agenda
28:34
you know, agenda show has has receipts people.
28:38
John C Dvorak: You know, this is so scandalous and it was played
28:41
by it was played at zero by
28:43
Adam Curry: zero. Well, she used an expletive on a call you know,
28:47
so we can pray the extra two because she said a bad word.
28:51
It's not about that people listen to what they're doing.
28:55
What they did, they did it. Everybody's job.
28:59
John C Dvorak: You gotta give him kudos for that same
29:01
Adam Curry: people. They had lady G. They had McCain they had
29:06
who was the CIA director. Everybody was in there to do
29:09
this. And it was just part of a Brennan was there and then and
29:13
now Vicki is back. You know she's not I think she's now if
29:17
not, has been or will be the Deputy Secretary of State again.
29:23
And she's here to finish the job. And Europe You're screwed
29:27
if the EU you're screwed.
29:29
John C Dvorak: Let me read some more about this shutdown. This
29:32
is Shaheed King Bolson who's talking about Poland being the
29:35
crux of this whole thing. Glad we played and this is
29:38
interesting. He's an al Qaeda operative. Oh, well, sure. By
29:42
now first affiliated to the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood.
29:46
Those two don't really necessarily mix but okay.
29:50
Suspicious
29:51
Adam Curry: wasn't the Muslim Brotherhood was not Obama's
29:53
guys.
29:55
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And it started 2015
29:57
multinational corporation for everyone basically goes on it
30:00
Not a he is a fine where it was born Shannon Morris in Boulder,
30:08
Colorado in 1971. He was raised as a Catholic, by his mother at
30:15
Catholic by his mother after their father abandoned the
30:18
family to pursue a screenwriting career in California. And this
30:23
guy family would later recall that even as a young man Shannon
30:26
was deeply troubled by social injustice, and the gap between
30:31
America's rich and poor that's
30:33
Adam Curry: it so his name is now Shaheed
30:36
John C Dvorak: he went from Shannon Morris to Shaheed King
30:40
Bolson.
30:41
Adam Curry: I'm calling you Johnny, and I'm sure he'd Okay,
30:44
that's that's Huda. Hello, Joe heed.
30:46
John C Dvorak: So it goes on and on and on. Robert is a bunch of
30:49
Connections is a very interesting article. If anyone
30:51
can find it, it's in the weekly blitz.net a background are on
30:57
this guy. And the guy is extremely suspicious. And he's,
31:01
he's really good at analysis. So let's go to part two of his
31:04
clip.
31:05
Unknown: When John Negroponte was appointed the US ambassador
31:08
to Iraq. Shortly after the invasion and occupation, I fully
31:12
anticipated that he would pursue the same sort of destabilization
31:16
project throughout the Middle East. Now, Negroponte had a
31:20
protege named Robert Stephen Ford, who was appointed the US
31:24
Ambassador to Syria at that time, and he immediately began
31:28
trying to foment rebellion and opposition and resistance and
31:32
recruiting militia groups until he was eventually kicked out of
31:35
the country. I think we're all aware of what happened a few
31:40
short years later, in the Arab world with the Arab Spring. And
31:43
we're all aware also, I think, of the role played by CIA backed
31:47
organizations in that Disruptive Movement. And I think we're also
31:51
all aware of the role played by the CIA, in backing armed groups
31:56
in the civil war in Syria. In fact, during the Arab Spring,
32:00
the United States tried to appoint Roberts even for it
32:02
after he'd been kicked out of Syria, they tried to appoint him
32:05
as the US ambassador to Egypt. But fortunately, his reputation
32:08
and the reputation of John Negroponte preceded them, and
32:11
popular opposition to that appointment towards the US
32:15
describe the idea. So the point here is that there is a pattern.
32:18
And once you are familiar with the pattern, you can recognize
32:21
it. And you can sort of abstractly predict the way it's
32:25
going to play out, if not specifically, well, in the
32:28
current scenario, in my opinion, Poland is Honduras, near the
32:32
beginning of the war in Ukraine, I noticed the role being played
32:35
by Poland, as a destination for refugees and as a source for
32:39
mercenaries to go and fight in Ukraine. So I decided to check
32:43
who is the US Ambassador to Poland right now? Well, the US
32:47
Ambassador to Poland right now is not Robert Stephen Ford, and
32:51
it's not John Negroponte or any of their known protegees. The
32:55
current US Ambassador to Poland is the son of one of the most
32:58
notorious policy advisors in recent US history. Zbigniew
33:03
Brzezinski, and I'm not going to make any effort to say his name
33:06
correctly. Brzezinski, who was Polish was the architect of us
33:10
support for the Mujahideen in Afghanistan against the Soviet
33:14
Union. And he was a staunch and paranoid anti Russian zealot.
33:20
Adam Curry: Wait a minute it is it's Mark Brzezinski. Oh, man.
33:27
How did we miss we miss this? Do we know this?
33:30
John C Dvorak: I think we may have noticed it some time back
33:33
but I think we didn't make it in this connection. We didn't make
33:35
this connection and
33:37
Adam Curry: is he not married to or boyfriend girlfriend with
33:40
that horrible woman? Yeah, because yes, when? I know I kind
33:49
of that's kind of an open open thing there isn't it? Ah
33:53
Brzezinski No way. This is atrocious with all the all the
33:58
shields are in place. Let's Yeah, who is he? He is cement
34:03
not Samantha what's what's her name?
34:06
John C Dvorak: That Samantha Powers. Oh, no.
34:09
Adam Curry: Apple been friends with Apple bomb.
34:12
John C Dvorak: Oh, Apple bomb. Oh, Annie.
34:14
Adam Curry: Because he's divorced. He's twice divorced.
34:17
Not saying that something that doesn't happen. Is he with Apple
34:21
bomb. Okay, well, let's continue with the clips. You can do them
34:25
doing the research over here on the Apple bow
34:27
John C Dvorak: and so onward with now the question that
34:30
occurs why is this why did this, this analysis even get out
34:34
there? There's something up with that. And I haven't figured that
34:37
part out yet. And this Shaheed character, again is another
34:42
mystery, but let's go on with part three.
34:44
Unknown: Now Brzezinski felt that the disintegration of the
34:46
EU was inevitable, and that only the perception of a threat being
34:50
posed by Russia could possibly induce the Europeans to act in
34:55
unison.
34:55
I think a united Europe came into being out of fear. I I
35:00
think that entity is now on the way to a disintegration because
35:06
the fear is gone. There is a certain inevitability to that.
35:11
Now, if content starts another wave of Cold War unilateral
35:14
actions, they'll probably all come back again.
35:17
He also believe that there were several countries that had been
35:19
admitted into the EU that never should have been admitted,
35:23
namely the Eastern Bloc countries in the Baltic states.
35:26
Now I think it's safe to assume that Mark Brzezinski, the
35:28
current US Ambassador to Poland, probably shares his father's
35:32
views and he is now in charge of coordinating the destabilization
35:36
program for Europe that will see the continent split right down
35:40
the middle, with America's focus of support moving from the
35:44
Atlantic, European states and the Central European states, to
35:48
the Eastern European states, with Poland as its primary
35:51
client. Ironically, the US is using Brzezinski theory, that
35:57
the Europeans need a Russian threat in order to act in
36:00
unison. They're using that theory to coerce the European
36:03
nations to be unified in the adoption of policies that will
36:09
ultimately lead to the disintegration of Europe. Now,
36:12
no doubt the US is dangling promises in front of Poland,
36:16
telling them that they will re emerge as a major power after
36:19
four centuries of irrelevance telling them that Germany is
36:23
weakening, both naturally and by design and that Poland can
36:26
become not only the manufacturing hub, and heart of
36:30
Europe, but also with the strongest military power.
36:33
They're even hinting that Poland can become a super state,
36:38
incorporating both Lithuania and Western Ukraine into their
36:42
territory. And just FYI, the suspected St. Petersburg bomber
36:47
was born in western Ukraine.
36:51
Adam Curry: So they went to school together and Mark. Oh,
36:57
they went to St. Anthony's College in Oxford.
37:01
John C Dvorak: No, Robin, a Rhodes scholarship. No doubt.
37:05
Adam Curry: Yeah, he's the one that when when the pipeline was
37:08
blown up the Nord Stream two. Key tweeted, dear Thanks. Good
37:12
job. Remember that
37:16
John C Dvorak: I vaguely remember that was funny.
37:20
Adam Curry: These people, these people are crazy. Okay, this is
37:23
good.
37:24
John C Dvorak: There's a lot of interesting stuff. But if you
37:25
think about this, this plan this scheme, which goes back to two,
37:31
pre 2014, because you had to get this this Ukraine thing started.
37:36
If this scheme goes back, as far as it probably did, it might
37:40
have been an extra explanation for Brexit. Because Brexit,
37:46
Brexit, the British were a part of five eyes. Yeah. And they
37:50
would know that if the scheme was underfoot to bust up the the
37:53
EU and just make a mess out of it. Kind of just scramble it.
37:58
Adam Curry: Well, well, this is this you have to get out. This
38:01
is succeeding. They're succeeding with this. Yeah.
38:06
Well, I'll tell you why in a minute. But let's let's get the
38:08
final piece here. Let's get to
38:09
John C Dvorak: find out clips. And then he also goes on after
38:13
this was some more stuff, it diminishes his score, rating us
38:16
and bitching and moaning about stuff. It goes into a Muslim
38:20
rant. But this is this wraps it.
38:22
Unknown: So based on all of these promises, in my opinion,
38:25
Poland is willingly doing America's dirty work, which
38:28
after all, they've actually been doing for quite some time, as a
38:32
result of embracing their role as a destabilizing client state
38:36
of the US, Poland will likely become a police state. And this
38:40
is already happening with American soldiers running amok
38:43
in the country, and polish Police telling their citizens
38:47
that they have no right to arrest them. And the same is
38:49
likely to happen in the other Eastern Bloc and Baltic states
38:52
where America is shifting its focus, they will be tightly
38:55
controlled by American influence. And they will be
38:58
encouraged to distance themselves from the EU and to
39:02
even form their own economic insecurity bloc, which again, we
39:06
already see happening. Poland will potentially become
39:08
militarily engaged in the war in Ukraine against Russia, as well
39:12
as potentially in Bella roofs and unquestionably covert
39:16
disruption activities in both Moldova and in Georgia, and
39:22
elsewhere, will be originating from the US Embassy in Warsaw.
39:27
So this is just to give you a sort of geopolitical framework
39:30
for what's happening in Europe and Poland's role in debt in
39:33
what is a repeating pattern by the US.
39:37
Adam Curry: Okay, so, what just happened this past week in one
39:42
of the countries that is that is under attack by Brzezinski and
39:47
his band of Biden criminals is the Dutch
39:52
Unknown: government in The Hague. Crowds gathered outside
39:55
the prime minister's office at the bin and half the Netherlands
39:59
law longest serving leader resigned from his fourth term in
40:02
office because of disagreements over immigration between
40:06
coalition partners.
40:07
Adam Curry: So it's not immigration. It's literally
40:09
asylum seekers. What from war ie from Ukraine.
40:16
Unknown: Today, unfortunately, we have to conclude that those
40:18
differences are irreconcilable. That is why will immediately
40:22
offer the resignation of the entire cabinet to the king in
40:25
writing will of course also send a copy of that request for
40:29
dismissal, but the House of Representatives
40:32
since January 2022, Mark Ruta has led a coalition government
40:37
comprising four parties from the right and center. Some months
40:41
the government had been trying to find an agreement on reducing
40:44
the flow of migrants entering the country. This week, the
40:47
Prime Minister tried to push through a plan to restrict
40:50
family reunification for refugees in the Netherlands. The
40:54
plan included a cap on the number of relatives of war
40:57
refugees allowed into the country, but two of the four
41:00
party coalition were not prepared to further tighten the
41:04
policy for asylum seekers. margaritas resignation opens a
41:08
period of uncertainty for the Dutch.
41:11
Adam Curry: So the ad at hand were very interesting case, you
41:15
know, they have a coalition of four parties, two big ones, two
41:18
smaller ones, and Ruta with with the other big one. They said,
41:23
Well, you know, we really want to restrict children of war
41:27
refugees from I mean, where else could they come from, but from
41:31
Ukraine, we want to restrict them so we can't bring them in,
41:35
which sounds like a real dick move. And then, you know, the
41:38
two smaller parties went well, that's a big move. So the oh,
41:41
well, I guess we can't figure it out. So let's all resign. Here's
41:45
a better report from a Dutch guy on Instagram.
41:48
Unknown: Hi guys use this video, I said that I'm not going to
41:52
make any videos or post anything with something big has happened
41:55
in the Netherlands, the cabinets Margarita has resigned about the
42:00
problems they had about all the migrants that were supposed to
42:04
come to the Netherlands. And now they resigned says it's a big
42:08
sign people I think I was talking to my friend in the
42:11
United States. And he said that a couple of days macarons ago
42:16
and people in there and then the government of Germany will go
42:19
and then Europe will collapse. It's finished. It's finished,
42:23
keep on praying. It's all those Klaus Schwab assholes are gone
42:28
and will be put to trial for a tribunal for what they have done
42:31
to them. So to all the people in the country so say to the world,
42:35
please, forward please this this video. Margaret is cabinet of
42:40
the Netherlands has resigned this falling. It's finished.
42:44
It's gone. So he
42:46
Adam Curry: sees it or at least he sees a version of it by
42:48
saying Oh no, what I understand is McCrone will be gone which
42:51
we'll talk about I guess now and the Germans will be gone and the
42:55
whole thing's gonna fall apart and then we're gonna put we're
42:58
gonna hang up the World Economic Forum eight holes I'm not so
43:01
sure that's gonna happen but I like his spunk. So we have
43:07
France bonk. This is this is this is our doing when I say our
43:15
pitch American politicians and diplomats who have been working
43:20
this
43:22
John C Dvorak: has been going on for a while, obviously pre
43:24
COVID. Obviously pre 2014 now, huh? Now, what is the goal?
43:32
Adam Curry: verbalization. Now, what else?
43:37
John C Dvorak: That's what we do?
43:39
Adam Curry: Where the rubber lies is baby. Yeah, well, what
43:43
is the goal is complete financial dominance. The bankers
43:47
never
43:47
John C Dvorak: other banks know your banker friend said this was
43:51
a fait accompli sometime back?
43:53
Adam Curry: Yeah, you know. So in 2008 there was a war and he
43:59
said, and I just remember him saying we won. We won. We beat
44:02
the European banks. We won. And he still speaks of winning,
44:06
we're winning now. We're winning. And with that, it only
44:09
means against the European Central Bank and the European
44:13
banks in general. Obviously, the Bank of England, you know, broke
44:18
that one a long time ago. So I'm sure that you know, it was
44:22
annoying the whole European the whole euro project annoying,
44:26
annoying, annoying, annoying. And since we have the BRICS
44:29
getting together and they keep threatening a gold backed
44:33
currency they're all going to use Yeah, it's not that simple.
44:37
It's not going to work. I don't know if it'll work or not, but
44:40
it's just not that simple. It sounds good on paper. Oh, yeah,
44:45
we'll just we'll just we'll just put together currency everybody
44:49
use it, but to to crush the euro. Especially by bringing in
44:54
Fifi Lagarde, globalist. You know, she may look French she
44:59
may speak for wrench, but she's a globalist. She comes from the
45:02
IMF. We know where she's from. So now she's she's going to run
45:06
the European Central Bank into the ground. But then we just
45:09
have some irritating little people like, I think Rota, I
45:13
think it was. He was told I think he was told to to fold.
45:19
This doesn't seem like they had to collapse the government over
45:22
this issue.
45:23
John C Dvorak: No, I don't think so. He is under, he's going to
45:28
get raised
45:29
Adam Curry: under. He's under a real attack. He's in a real
45:32
attack. But you sent me that that article that I put in the
45:35
show notes or that cable, the diplomatic
45:37
John C Dvorak: was a cable that was on a wiki leaks, and it had
45:40
to be archived in Iceland, or something's quite interesting.
45:43
It's in the show notes. And it outlines and this is an old
45:48
memo. During the Clinton era of December 2010. No, it's Obama.
45:57
Okay. Yeah. Well, Clinton is what I meant Clinton. Oh,
46:00
Adam Curry: Clinton State Department. Yes. Yeah, of
46:03
course, of course.
46:05
John C Dvorak: And it outlines the methodology used to subvert
46:08
the society in, in France mainly, and I guess other
46:14
countries, and it's pretty much to implement the diversity into
46:19
integrate whatever the di e thing that Dei, whatever is
46:22
planned
46:22
Adam Curry: and going after going after youth groups with
46:25
great vigor, riling them as all kinds of crazy terms in the in
46:29
that in that cable, it's like, we're gonna organize the youth.
46:35
And we'll show those friendships. Those friendships
46:37
don't know how to do it.
46:39
John C Dvorak: It's it's designed to destabilize the
46:41
country
46:42
Adam Curry: very, very much. So
46:44
John C Dvorak: it was very, very interesting series of memos that
46:47
were picked up. You can see why. I mean, those kinds of things.
46:52
WikiLeaks is still laced with tons of cool stuff. It's been
46:56
scattered all over the world. Airline,
46:59
Adam Curry: let me read from a little bit. So this is the from
47:02
the American embassy from Ambassador Rivkin 2010. We
47:07
believe that if France over the long run does not successfully
47:10
increase opportunity and provide genuine political representation
47:13
for its minority populations, France could become a weaker,
47:16
more divided country, perhaps more crisis prone and inward
47:20
looking and consequently, a less capable ally, as is witnessed by
47:25
his cozying up to China and not participating in the in the
47:30
Ukraine Gambit. Right. And then there's, you know, this crisis
47:35
of representation in France. So, you know, the racist a holes,
47:39
strategy for France, our aims, the overarching goal of our
47:43
minority outreach strategy is to engage the French population at
47:46
all levels in order to help France to realize its own
47:49
egalitarian ideals. Again, democracy, we're doing a good
47:54
job. But our strategy has three broad target audiences in mind,
48:00
one, the majority, especially the elites, yeah, well buy them
48:03
off to minorities with a focus on their leaders. That's right.
48:07
They go into the mosques. And three, the general population,
48:10
employ the seven tactics described below, engage in
48:14
positive discourse, set a strong example launch aggressive youth
48:18
outreach, aggressive, aggressive, encourage moderate
48:24
voices, propagate best practices, best price, deepen
48:28
our understanding of the problem, integrate target and
48:32
evaluate our efforts. This is France. This is not, you know,
48:36
some, some dusty desert. There, why
48:41
John C Dvorak: are we but why we become the button skis of the
48:44
world where we're gonna go to France, historically, highly
48:49
cultured country and tell and then manipulate them to get what
48:54
we want. I mean, I think it's, I guess it's our job to manipulate
48:58
everybody to get what we want. But it's subversive. And if we
49:03
have to admit to it, I'm getting caught left and right. That memo
49:08
should have never been we shouldn't be reading that memo
49:12
on our show a and b, we shouldn't have ever had that
49:16
Victoria Nuland call and the fact that all this stuff is
49:19
pretty much out in the open and is not being picked up by the
49:22
mainstream media is disgusting. Well, that's why
49:25
Adam Curry: we're that's why we are the best we have cast in the
49:29
US. We is if you know, you know exactly. No, you know, you know,
49:35
hey, so with the Netherlands, you know, so you have a
49:39
decommissioned cabinet. So they stay on and they just kind of
49:42
keep the seats warm and they'll have elections in the fall. Now
49:47
what's going to happen in the fall, what's going to happen
49:49
before they even get their elections going, which will be
49:51
November I guess, in October, this is when Fifi has promised
49:55
us the digital Euro. I mean, I may be getting ahead of myself
49:59
here. But yeah who knows? Who knows? I got a clip we got to do
50:08
something.
50:10
John C Dvorak: On what you This is an ask Adam.
50:12
Adam Curry: Oh goodness,
50:13
John C Dvorak: this is the head of a Estonia the female leader.
50:16
I think she's the prime minister the president. And this is an
50:21
acid she's gonna be talking about somebody I want you to
50:24
tell me what she's talking about.
50:27
Unknown: Okay there fellas I'm really sorry not to be able to
50:30
be there with you in person.
50:31
Adam Curry: What is the first name? She said? Dear What she
50:33
said Dear fellas, are there fellows
50:36
Unknown: there fellas? I'm really sorry not to be able to
50:39
be there with you in person for the first ever NATO Summit in
50:42
Vilnius. But I will be following in your footsteps in a few days
50:46
when NATO leaders meet as a proud honry fella. I want to
50:51
send my greetings to you and I wish you the most base NATO
50:56
Summit possible. As I've said before the aggressor must be
51:00
defeated she say most
51:01
Adam Curry: based NATO Summit.
51:04
John C Dvorak: No, she said most based NATO Summit.
51:08
Adam Curry: Okay, well, that's that's so some countries say
51:11
Navo other say NATO but she said baby Oh, no. What No. Yes. No,
51:17
in Holland, it's Navo
51:20
John C Dvorak: na fo is a completely different
51:22
organization. Look it up and when the Wikipedia after you
51:25
listen to the rest of the clip,
51:27
Unknown: the proud 100 fella, I want to send my greetings to
51:30
you. And I wish you the most bass NATO Summit possible. As
51:35
I've said before, the aggressor must be defeated on the
51:38
battlefield. But Russia is also waging a war against our
51:42
democracies, and energy war, cyber war and information war.
51:46
Democracies need to take steps to defend themselves in all
51:50
these areas, as well as holding the line to defend the world
51:54
where rules still apply, and where technology works for not
51:58
against democratic societies. You are all a living example of
52:03
this fighting Russian disinformation and bad takes
52:06
with good humor, intelligence and enthusiasm. Behind every
52:11
fellow is a real person. You are volunteering your time and
52:15
energy because you believe in Ukraine's victory. I thank you
52:19
for all your support to Ukraine, as well as the Baltic Sea region
52:23
and Estonia. And thank you for all your support to me
52:28
personally, it really, really warms my heart. So what more to
52:32
say then keep fighting the good fight? Because NATO expansion is
52:37
non negotiable,
52:38
as was as we know. Oh, really? Well, I don't know. We go.
52:48
Adam Curry: All right. I know what this is. Because she used
52:50
all the words. This isn't a foe. You're right. And I fo North
52:54
Atlantic fella organization.
52:57
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And she's a fellow. She's
52:59
Adam Curry: a fella. That's right. And they combat
53:02
disinformation.
53:04
John C Dvorak: They use the same logo as NATO. Yep. It's only
53:10
just started in 2020. This is a joke. This is some millennials
53:15
that were in government that came up with this idiocy,
53:18
they're even good. All these morons and she's one of them.
53:22
They're using the shiba inu dog and they use that stupid dog to
53:27
dose dog the dose dog as as their logo this is wrong, which
53:33
is also a pedophile will sign that according to some people on
53:38
the no agenda social anyway. The whole thing is wrong. Is Wrong
53:45
fella fella.
53:47
Adam Curry: Well, she said when she said based I knew something
53:50
was up. I don't care what you say, well, you're using base as
53:53
a politician. You're not a politician. I don't know who she
53:57
is. But
53:59
John C Dvorak: she's the head. She's the honcho of Estonia,
54:02
which is a stooge country for us. What is she very high tech.
54:07
Adam Curry: What is she doing wasting her time at the NATO
54:11
John C Dvorak: Bush she didn't go to us she just gave a video a
54:13
basic video. She's bad. So she gave a video on this. She's
54:16
gonna go to the actual NATO conference in a couple of days.
54:20
This is so great. It's unbelievably stupid.
54:27
Adam Curry: She's well now
54:31
John C Dvorak: top that,
54:32
Adam Curry: uh, well, the I can't really top it with only
54:34
one other piece of Dutch news, which is the winner of Miss Miss
54:40
Netherlands 2023. Announced on Saturday night in a televised
54:50
you know this will be part of the Miss Universe competition.
54:54
And it is Ricky Calais. A dude I told you I could top it as seven
55:06
foot tall dude one
55:09
John C Dvorak: seven foot tall. Yes. Big dude very
55:13
Adam Curry: tall dude very tall. And I do not believe this is a a
55:20
completely transition person. I believe it is a transvestite.
55:25
I'm not 100% Sure, I don't really care. But now is this
55:30
Ricky is a combo a Dutch? molucca and malaco You haven't
55:34
heard muckers in a long time?
55:36
John C Dvorak: I haven't heard idaite Are you remember that?
55:38
Well, the molucca is
55:39
Adam Curry: are the ones who were hijacking the trains in the
55:42
70s in Holland, do you remember that? Oh, I
55:45
John C Dvorak: don't remember any of that, because they were
55:46
all pissed off. This
55:47
Adam Curry: is part of the DEI agenda in the Netherlands,
55:50
because, you know, everyone's vying for money now, now that
55:53
the king has said, you know, we're a bunch of racists, and we
55:56
ship the slaves go us, and now they got museums and all kinds
56:01
of stuff, you know, oh, well, now we're a bunch
56:03
John C Dvorak: of racist so we're gonna make up for it by
56:05
naming this guy, Miss Netherlands. That's pretty much
56:09
gonna help. Yes and help our cause.
56:11
Adam Curry: How do you feel? That's reparations? There you
56:13
go. That's what it is. Here's our reparations take that
56:16
muckers?
56:20
Unknown: Man oh man. Oh
56:21
Adam Curry: man. Oh, man. Oh man. Oh man, and not that
56:25
attractive with a huge Overbite can scrape flies off the wall.
56:29
I'm sorry. I mean, I just got to be a television producer here
56:32
for a moment the profile is not a good look. Look it up.
56:37
John C Dvorak: by Neil really want you to
56:39
Adam Curry: know you need to see overbite, okay. Miss Netherlands
56:45
just look at you have
56:45
John C Dvorak: to get hold on. I gotta get a browser up and I'm
56:48
going nuts. You mentioned it. I just don't.
56:50
Adam Curry: You don't even have you're doing you'd been doing
56:52
the show for almost an hour and you haven't don't even have a
56:55
browser up. I don't know what kind of podcasts or are you?
57:01
John C Dvorak: I know. It makes no sense. You're still in your
57:04
pajamas yet about pi cash and you have a browser running
57:07
constantly. Look I gotta do to get ISS Palumbo, Netherlands.
57:16
What? Oh, I see what happened. What are you
57:18
Adam Curry: doing? It's Ricky Valerie. Colet. Oh wow. Ricky ri
57:26
K K i e of course makes nothing but sense. R I K admis.
57:32
Netherlands. Come on. Oh, there
57:33
John C Dvorak: she is. Don't say she will if I just saw a picture
57:38
the way that when that showed up. I would say that's a she
57:41
Adam Curry: No, but now look at the profile. Look at look at
57:43
that overbuying. I've put a lot of money into my mouth now so I
57:48
feel I have some standing. Get your face fixed.
57:51
John C Dvorak: She is extremely tall. And again I say she
57:55
because I have no evidence. Very and I don't have any profile.
58:03
Okay. She's She looks very Hispanic moniker Hispanic. No.
58:14
Now there's no there's a picture with orange lipstick.
58:20
Adam Curry: Anyway, I knew I could top it I knew I could top
58:22
it
58:23
John C Dvorak: is definitely different. I want to before we
58:27
leave the your analysis completely behind I want to do
58:33
one quick three parter on Russian. The COO
58:38
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Now before you even start, did you see that
58:42
they now have pictures of hot dog boys? Penthouse
58:49
John C Dvorak: No, I don't know anything about hot dog boys
58:50
penthouse.
58:51
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah, so they got pictures of his penthouse or
58:54
his mansion or whatever. And he's got like all kinds of wigs
58:58
and disguises and weird things and he's got Illuminati
59:03
checkered floors. I mean, this guy is into some weird stuff.
59:07
And there's paint and now they're posting pictures of him
59:09
and all these different get ups and all these different
59:12
disguises which are I mean, it hilariously bad. With like,
59:17
really bad wigs. The whole thing is bizarre.
59:21
John C Dvorak: It doesn't even seem like he's ready running
59:23
anything. Here,
59:25
Adam Curry: a peek into Pergo Z's bizarre pad. Among the
59:30
findings were millions in cash and gold bars a disguised
59:34
collection, a giant sledge hammer, and a cache of guns and
59:38
ammo. Well, you could find guns and ammo mine was a sledge
59:42
hammer Yeah, that's the one that he was bashing people's head
59:44
that he mesh in your heads with your this guy he doesn't even
59:48
exist. This this guy is an entirely made up fictional
59:53
character I'm convinced of it now.
59:56
John C Dvorak: Well, could be is just as good as any Additional I
1:00:00
was listening so I wanted to get the clip somebody sent me the
1:00:03
link and I put it off from the last show I wanted to get the
1:00:06
clips of Kennedy on on the media
1:00:09
Adam Curry: oh I haven't heard that one yet. I've been the
1:00:12
media has been the K is what they're calling him Now Bobby
1:00:15
The K Bobby the
1:00:16
John C Dvorak: K's on on the media and they do a takedown of
1:00:21
course is very slanted they use loaded languages it's I think
1:00:27
might from my perspective they're being sincere but
1:00:29
they're being dishonest but they don't know it. So they got but
1:00:33
in the process before they get to Kennedy they do they bring
1:00:36
some guy on some experts uh, you know, they always have some
1:00:39
expert on the media and they bring him on and he's he talks
1:00:45
about the about the coup and it was some kind of me I don't know
1:00:50
if it's inside or just a different approach but I thought
1:00:53
it was interesting enough I get some clips okay. And here we go
1:00:56
with the coup. Some background are on the cool
1:01:00
Adam Curry: on the media is an NPR product on the media
1:01:03
John C Dvorak: is a right it's an NPR thing with his Brooke
1:01:06
Gladstone who's being substituted hosted by some New
1:01:09
York Times column this girl girl girl and it's a very it's
1:01:14
supposed to be media Deaconess. Once we will redo it's supposed
1:01:17
to be decongesting. Yes, sure. It's supposed to be
1:01:21
deconstructed, but all it does is it just looks for anything
1:01:25
that's a little right wing and then it gets condemned
1:01:28
Unknown: in the last day or so has seen an extraordinary turn
1:01:31
of events in Russia.
1:01:33
A week ago, the world watched his Russian President Vladimir
1:01:36
Putin's favorite fixer made a power play in the Russian
1:01:39
city of Rostov. Armed men
1:01:43
and armor on the streets understanding if any precaution
1:01:46
He is calling for an armed rebellion
1:01:48
precaution announced his army 10s of 1000s Straw Wood River
1:01:52
Adam Curry: they're doing super cuts now. Is that what they're
1:01:54
doing to the
1:01:56
John C Dvorak: really former cut as a president preludes? Yeah,
1:02:01
it's kind of like their way of leading in
1:02:05
Unknown: rebellion pretty Goshen announced his army 10s of 1000s
1:02:08
Straw would reverse course backing out of Ukraine, marching
1:02:12
directly on Moscow,
1:02:14
Russian state TV through a lot of commercial breaks as the rest
1:02:18
of the world tried to figure out what was going on. What's the
1:02:21
latest that we have confirmed so there is very little confirmed
1:02:26
an
1:02:26
utterly baffling turn of events here as a rebellion that wasn't
1:02:31
in Russia or wasn't a rebellion.
1:02:33
But then as quickly as the rebellion flared, it fizzled.
1:02:37
The leader of the Wagner group you can see progression, has
1:02:40
ordered his mercenaries to turn around and returned to their
1:02:43
bases to avoid bloodshed. He said
1:02:45
Vladimir Putin began the day angrily denouncing an armed
1:02:48
insurrection as terrorist methods and now appears to have
1:02:51
struck a deal with precaution. The
1:02:53
Kremlin says it's dropped charges and Prigogine will go to
1:02:56
Belarus, while promising his fighters contracts with the
1:03:00
Russian military.
1:03:02
It was not a coup because Goshen made his intention clear
1:03:07
repeatedly. He was not trying to overthrow the government he was
1:03:10
not trying to seize power from Putin
1:03:12
Nani Hall thing is the author of seizing power the strategic
1:03:15
logic of military coups back in 2016. He helped on the media
1:03:19
create a breaking news consumers handbook military coup edition
1:03:23
after a failed attempt by the military to seize power in
1:03:26
Turkey. He says what happened in Russia last week was less a coup
1:03:30
than a mutiny
1:03:31
Adam Curry: Oh yeah,
1:03:33
John C Dvorak: they got it where it comes from from everywhere
1:03:36
yeah, we were talking over and over and over again about what
1:03:39
is what is he talking about Muni, Muni, Muni. Muni? It comes
1:03:43
from this show and that right there
1:03:48
Adam Curry: so you share there the orange the originator pretty
1:03:51
sure
1:03:51
John C Dvorak: Yeah, cuz this is not brand new. And it just all
1:03:54
seems to stem from this guy
1:03:56
Adam Curry: helped me understand one thing. Now if you and I were
1:03:59
producing on the media, and you know, we've produced a lot of
1:04:02
stuff in our time. First of all, make this girl spin around make
1:04:05
sure she's okay for the role.
1:04:08
John C Dvorak: A patent make curry.com I'm just doing
1:04:12
Adam Curry: television producer stuff, but it's radio. We would
1:04:14
never
1:04:15
John C Dvorak: I wish the spinning around for radio.
1:04:18
Adam Curry: We would never choose this guitar music. What's
1:04:21
up with the Spanish guitar? Why? I mean, it's royalty free. I get
1:04:27
it but want to have
1:04:28
John C Dvorak: an A gillows What I have played? Okay.
1:04:32
Adam Curry: Sure. Carry to vorak for all your podcasts. Okay, so,
1:04:36
John C Dvorak: so, so this, this mutiny thing comes from this
1:04:39
guy. Now while you're listening to this guy explain what a coup
1:04:43
is and what a coup isn't because there's I guess there's a bunch
1:04:46
of the he's the he's the guy. I want you to also be thinking
1:04:52
into at least in the back your head everyone out there should
1:04:54
be thinking about January 6, though as a cool, suppose a coup
1:04:59
and you If you listen to these guys, and you listen to what
1:05:02
they say about this, and then you think about January 6,
1:05:04
January 6 was not even it was not an insurrection. It wasn't a
1:05:07
coup. It wasn't a mutiny. It was a lousy re was a poorly planned
1:05:12
event.
1:05:13
Adam Curry: What No, hold on a second. It was a it was a jacked
1:05:17
up crowd that was jacked up because there was about to be a
1:05:20
vote taken inside. Inside the capitol that could actually have
1:05:25
stopped the certification of the vote, let's just call it what it
1:05:28
really was. That's why they let everybody in, oh, people are
1:05:32
coming in. We can't do we can't take this vote. That's what it
1:05:37
was. Okay, so it's kind of like a mutiny, really.
1:05:42
John C Dvorak: But it wasn't really like a mutiny at all. But
1:05:47
let's listen. Now we get to more parts of this. And you can kind
1:05:50
of share this site. They're really looking for something
1:05:54
here. And it's I don't know what anyone is looking for. But it's
1:05:57
kind of interesting.
1:05:58
Unknown: So there were some distinctions. Most mutinies are
1:06:01
from the bottom, which is to say, if your average Russian
1:06:05
construct was to rise up against the war, or against their
1:06:09
conditions of service, that would be a lot more typical.
1:06:13
However, this is not something which is unique, what Prigogine
1:06:16
did. In fact, there are other examples like in Ecuador, or in
1:06:20
Argentina, where you have generals or people who are in
1:06:24
command of significant military forces, who will mountain armed
1:06:28
rebellion, who use that force to attain a political objective.
1:06:33
It's just that in this case, that political objective stops
1:06:36
just shy of the removal of the president.
1:06:39
When you spoke to otium. In 2016, it was about a coup
1:06:42
attempt in Turkey. You said then that coos are about making the
1:06:46
outcome seem inevitable, and putting out the message that
1:06:50
they've already succeeded in overthrowing the people in power
1:06:53
to precaution do that, no production
1:06:55
did not. And it's one of the ways in which he avoids being
1:06:59
accused of mounting a coup. He never says My intention is to
1:07:03
take over, he never says I've already succeeded in taking
1:07:07
over. In fact, his first target is rust off rather than Moscow.
1:07:14
John C Dvorak: So this all seems like it's from the CIA playbook.
1:07:19
His discussion of you know, just saying I took
1:07:25
Adam Curry: thing, I don't get the coup ribbon, unless it's an
1:07:28
actual coup. So I know what a coup is, okay. And you need to
1:07:31
have an army leader you need to have someone taking over has to
1:07:35
be a political takeover, which, of course, January 6 was not
1:07:38
that was what that was, was worse than 911. That was worse
1:07:42
than the Civil War. But it was not the worst, everything was
1:07:45
not a coup. It was not it
1:07:47
John C Dvorak: was poorly done. That's why. Okay, so we'll
1:07:50
finish this guy off.
1:07:53
Unknown: And he says he intends to go in and remove the top
1:07:57
people at the Ministry of Defense, he doesn't say I've
1:07:59
already succeeded in doing so. However, he does do half of it.
1:08:04
If you're going to create a narrative that your seizure of
1:08:07
power is a fait accompli, that your success is inevitable. The
1:08:12
first half of doing that is that you have to demonstrate that the
1:08:17
state is no longer in control. And that's the part that
1:08:20
precaution does do you warn
1:08:22
that in the case of a coup or a mutiny, each side is battling to
1:08:26
seize the narrative. What are the competing narratives here?
1:08:30
Adam Curry: Wow, fire her this is horrible. What are they? I
1:08:34
mean, is she Do you think she's reading right in front of them?
1:08:37
Where their head down just like just reading off the paper? Or
1:08:41
is this inserted later? Sounds like?
1:08:45
John C Dvorak: That's a good question. Because you can't tell
1:08:47
it's so poorly done. Sounds inserted later
1:08:49
Unknown: me. Each side is battling to seize the narrative.
1:08:53
What are the competing narratives here?
1:08:55
You're seeing a
1:08:56
Adam Curry: lot more notes inserted later.
1:08:59
John C Dvorak: I think so.
1:09:00
Unknown: Yeah. Battling disease, the narrative. What are the
1:09:03
competing narratives here?
1:09:05
You're seeing a lot more narrative creation now that
1:09:08
things are over always
1:09:09
John C Dvorak: top again over another is just for people who
1:09:11
care about this kind of broadcasting crap. The other
1:09:16
thing is, is that generally speaking on this show and some
1:09:20
of the other shows, they're doing it over a satellite link
1:09:23
and there's always a delay that they never cut out. Really, they
1:09:28
always leave a look do it that I'm when I'm doing these clips.
1:09:31
I'm cutting stuff out constantly. The lag but helped
1:09:34
me understand
1:09:35
Adam Curry: how is it that NPR with all their resources and
1:09:39
Neumann mics and beautifully soundproof rooms, to have to
1:09:43
still resort to interviews over the satellite with a delay?
1:09:47
We're using a $20 clean feed account and it's fine.
1:09:54
John C Dvorak: I've always wondered about some of these
1:09:56
some of these delays and Fox has them two boxes, the worst is La
1:10:00
got the money and just wasting cash box delays on their on
1:10:05
their satellite feed? Are 234 Second ridic
1:10:10
Adam Curry: not his video. So they're adding that but it's
1:10:12
ridiculous. That's a ridiculous
1:10:14
Unknown: control. And that's the part that precaution does do.
1:10:17
You warned that in the case of a coup or a mutiny, each side is
1:10:22
battling to seize the narrative. What are the competing
1:10:25
narratives here?
1:10:26
You're seeing a lot more narrative creation now that
1:10:29
things are over promotion wants to make it seem as if he could
1:10:33
have succeeded. Putin is trying to make it seem that provisions
1:10:37
activities were highly threatening to the state, but he
1:10:41
was in control all along, and that he's still in control. Both
1:10:45
sides want to create an impression to create an
1:10:48
understanding of what occurred because of the consequences for
1:10:52
their existing position. If Prigogine can make it seem like
1:10:56
he came very close to succeeding it'll make it a little bit
1:11:00
harder for people to assassinate him because of the assassinate
1:11:03
him. Maybe his troops will rise up and maybe they'll overthrow
1:11:07
the government.
1:11:07
Adam Curry: Yeah, but no, so
1:11:08
Unknown: this was as far fetched
1:11:10
Adam Curry: total CIA guys. This is nuts about narrative
1:11:15
creation. This is exactly what they're trying to do. You think
1:11:20
it's far fetched? No, I
1:11:21
John C Dvorak: think is forfeit his thesis at the end is far
1:11:26
fetched, which is that oh, precaution only did this so he
1:11:30
won't get assassinated. That is the logic of eyes bull.
1:11:33
Adam Curry: This guy. This guy is a ghost.
1:11:37
John C Dvorak: Well, I think I think I think this writers is
1:11:41
working for somebody. Yes, it's connected. I think you're right.
1:11:45
Adam Curry: I mean, he knows he knows how it works. Speaking of
1:11:48
narrative creation, very surprising. And I have not seen
1:11:53
this movie yet. Sound of freedom. I think I talked about
1:11:56
it on the last show with Mel Gibson promoted sound of
1:11:59
freedom. And this is a true story. It's based on a true
1:12:02
story of a guy who went and he made it his job to go and find
1:12:07
children who had been abducted. Now, I again, it's in theaters
1:12:11
so I haven't seen it yet. But it was outpacing everything this
1:12:14
weekend in the box office, including Indiana Jones, which
1:12:18
is a multi 100 million dollar production. And, and this shall
1:12:24
not stand. And all of a sudden, this has become a Q anon movie
1:12:33
for some reason. And even Rolling Stone. Yeah. Okay, so
1:12:41
the guys who produce this are this and this is partially
1:12:46
crowdfunded. It's Angel studios from from Dallas. This is the
1:12:50
guy that did the year guys that yes, you're the Jesus
1:12:54
revolution. He did the the chosen very successful Christian
1:12:58
series. And so, you know, they produce this on a low budget.
1:13:02
People start loving it. I think this is the second weekend that
1:13:05
it's out. And all of a sudden, oh, no, this is q1 on the Get
1:13:10
Jim coversyl. The guy who started and he's q1 on, he's all
1:13:15
Q anon conspiracy theory. None of its true. I mean, just
1:13:19
listen, listen to how Rollingstone treats this movie.
1:13:23
Sounds of freedom is a superhero movie for dads with brain worms.
1:13:27
Okay, now that's funny, but the Q anon tinged thriller about
1:13:31
child trafficking is designed to appeal to the conscience of a
1:13:34
conspiracy addled Boomer.
1:13:39
John C Dvorak: Wow, I liked that phrase it conspiracy addled
1:13:42
Boomer. dynamize too long. But whoever put that one together
1:13:46
gets a gets a couple of candy, some suckers.
1:13:50
Adam Curry: So, based on a true story, the familiar words had
1:13:54
appeared on the screen and an elderly man had taken upon
1:13:57
Himself to read them aloud to the rest of the sizable audience
1:13:59
seated for a matinee showing of the anti child trafficking
1:14:03
thriller sound of freedom, starring Jim Kevin Ezel thing as
1:14:07
I pronounce it. For the season movie goer. This phrase is a
1:14:10
joke. We know that cinema will stretch almost any truth to the
1:14:14
breaking point, and the rank insincerity of such a
1:14:17
pronouncement is the foundation of the prankish opening titles
1:14:21
of Fargo. So this guy he played, this is best that coversyl Best
1:14:29
known for being tortured to death and Mel Gibson's The
1:14:32
Passion of the Christ. You mean he played Jesus? Is that is that
1:14:37
John C Dvorak: he? Covey, Kevin? Covey, I don't know how you
1:14:40
pronounce it. But he kept he was the guy was in persons that
1:14:43
person have a hint interest, which was a long running TV
1:14:46
thriller show. It was quite good. And he's been in a lot of
1:14:50
stuff and he's Yes, he did play the Christ in that.
1:14:54
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, he played the guy best known for
1:14:57
being tortured. If not all yeah not Jesus no
1:15:02
John C Dvorak: no Jesus no no it's not Jesus some guy just
1:15:05
some random torture
1:15:06
Adam Curry: dude some dude you got tortured exactly
1:15:09
John C Dvorak: as funny and catch Ballard himself heaven
1:15:13
forbid we use the word Jesus Christ in our publication oh
1:15:16
this dedicated atheists
1:15:21
Adam Curry: sound of freedom lives up to its anticipation
1:15:24
it's a stomach turning experience fetishize the toward
1:15:27
fetishizing, the torture of its child victims and lingering over
1:15:31
lush play alludes to their sexual abuse. It sounds to me
1:15:36
just reading this and seeing like Guardian articles with a
1:15:39
very similar bent. Here Washington Post. I read this for
1:15:45
a second when Washington Post the low budget film about side
1:15:50
channels
1:15:52
John C Dvorak: like that, yeah. Fascist the other word they
1:15:55
could use
1:15:55
Adam Curry: as the low budget film about child sex trafficking
1:15:59
almost topped the box office on July 4, but at Star Jim cabezo
1:16:03
has linked it to the q&a and movement. Well,
1:16:07
John C Dvorak: I have a clip. I have a clip too, but
1:16:09
Adam Curry: I'd love to hear yours first.
1:16:11
John C Dvorak: Boy, you're gonna have to use your search engine
1:16:13
because from a couple of shows ago, okay, it's the Audrina
1:16:16
chrome clip with Jacob Feasel on Steve Bannon show
1:16:24
Unknown: for labor for slave labor, or is
1:16:26
it Adrenochrome? The whole Adrenochrome empire that this is
1:16:31
a big deal that it is under listed under the NIH. It is is a
1:16:36
chemical compound. It's a molecular structure is a C nine
1:16:39
H nine no three. It is it's an elite drug that they've used for
1:16:44
many years. It's 10 times more potent than heroin and it has
1:16:50
some mystical qualities as far as making you look younger.
1:16:55
There's
1:16:55
there's a scene in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas that
1:16:58
nobody could figure
1:16:59
out. I saw that and why did why does Ms. 13 have most advanced
1:17:03
guns? You know, why do we sit alone gangs have all How come
1:17:07
110,000 people died? Or disappeared in Mexico City?
1:17:11
Where did they go and their start pulling people out of body
1:17:13
bags now? You know how this is just insane with our military,
1:17:19
our Special Forces and we don't take care of this.
1:17:21
You can't just have that demand unless somehow that's organized
1:17:24
also
1:17:25
100% I believe. Okay, so the agents that I've spoken to,
1:17:30
alright, here's here's the s for a barrel of oil $77 for a barrel
1:17:37
of body parts and what's going to be Adrenochrome all the
1:17:40
plumes that are in the woman's mother's wombs. That goes from a
1:17:44
plastic barrel and that's 77,000 that that gets sent into these
1:17:50
barrel biolabs barrel oil
1:17:52
$77.70 $7,000 for Ukrainians have Russian bloodline and
1:17:57
everything and then I started looking at that. And then I
1:18:00
started looking up this Azov battalion stuff the Nazis
1:18:09
Adam Curry: so in this Washington Post, that's a good
1:18:11
clip. By the way. In this Washington Post article here
1:18:14
comes he is focused on one Q anon belief in particular while
1:18:18
promoting sound of freedom. The idea that child traffickers
1:18:21
drain children's blood to harvest a life giving substance
1:18:24
called Adrenochrome. Speaking to a Q anon affiliated conference
1:18:29
in an Oklahoma in 2021, the actor said Ballard wanted to
1:18:33
join him, but he's down there saving does the guy the real
1:18:36
guy, but he's down there saving children as we speak, because
1:18:40
they're pulling kids out of the darkest recesses of hell right
1:18:42
now in all kinds of places. The adrenal chroming of children.
1:18:47
THE MODERATOR asked them to elaborate. If a child knows he's
1:18:50
going to die, his body will secrete this adrenaline
1:18:52
adrenaline cabezo said, his voice catching these people do
1:18:57
that do it. There'll be no mercy for them. This is one of the
1:18:59
best films I've done in my ever in my life. This film is an
1:19:03
Academy Award Level. In reality this is back to Washington Post
1:19:07
Adrenochrome is a relatively mundane chemical compound
1:19:10
created by oxidizing adrenaline. Though the author Hunter S
1:19:16
Thompson portrayed it as a kind of super drug popular with
1:19:19
pedophiles in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas John you're the
1:19:25
chemical engineer you're the chemist I mean this Audrina
1:19:30
chrome
1:19:33
John C Dvorak: you can look it up in Wikipedia Audrina Chrome
1:19:35
is there. Yes. I have no idea. Well, it's I think it's toxic. I
1:19:45
have no idea. I don't know what, what anything about it. I think
1:19:48
a lot of this is I mean, Hunter was a very creative person. I've
1:19:56
met him a few times, talk to him on the phone, Thompson and
1:19:59
really Yeah, I had lunch with him once with Hurst.
1:20:02
Adam Curry: Now, did you have a nice cup of Adrenochrome with
1:20:06
Hunter? No, I
1:20:07
John C Dvorak: hate drinks. It was interesting. He drank for
1:20:12
lunch. He had a tall tumbler with no ice of Chivas. Oh, wow.
1:20:20
A nice lunch drink. And he always seemed us us at the
1:20:26
salmon or parties. He went to a couple of the Christmas party.
1:20:30
And he always had these girls around him. He seemed which now
1:20:34
there's some evidence that one of them was a dude his handler
1:20:38
Oh, but he always seemed kind of dinghy. So so I don't know. I
1:20:44
think he made it up. But
1:20:44
Adam Curry: the thing is, I'm not so sure that the
1:20:46
Adrenochrome was even mentioned in the movie. No, I don't think
1:20:51
it is. I can't wait to see it now. I don't think and by the
1:20:55
way, it doesn't matter. Someone a troll points out quite
1:20:57
correctly. If people think it's it gives them super power,
1:21:01
though. They'll want it anyway. Yes, there's there's all I know
1:21:06
is for for the mainstream media to discredit this movie basic
1:21:10
based upon this, I think is disingenuous that probably
1:21:15
covering for the studio, that's probably the biggest problem is
1:21:18
the whoever did Indiana Jones is losing their shirt. You know,
1:21:21
that's not they are up and that's not supposed to happen.
1:21:24
No. And you cannot deny that there's a lot of child
1:21:29
trafficking and pedophilia
1:21:31
John C Dvorak: is one of missing children, the number of missing
1:21:33
children in the country is outrageous. So here's 85,000 A
1:21:37
year something or more.
1:21:39
Adam Curry: So here's CNN speaking. So that's a pull it
1:21:41
all to Q anon which Q anon what I remember q1 was, was a was Q.
1:21:47
Q was was posting pictures of like him dropping truths, et
1:21:51
cetera, during bombs, truth bombs, and no truths. And, you
1:21:56
know, and where we go, one we go all and, you know, whatever. But
1:22:02
this discrediting of this movie, which is clearly about child
1:22:06
abduction, and the child trafficking, which is real,
1:22:10
that's real. Why are they covering it up in such a drastic
1:22:14
manner? And here's CNN just for an example of it
1:22:18
Unknown: seem pretty familiar with him because he doesn't
1:22:21
really hide his association with this real wild plot that that
1:22:27
involves, you know, drinking the blood of children and things
1:22:29
like that.
1:22:30
No, he doesn't hide it at all. And you have a lot of people who
1:22:33
are in this world of Q anon who say, Oh, they don't know what
1:22:36
that is. I've never heard of it. They're just asking questions
1:22:39
with somebody like Jim Gisele, he is openly embracing it. He's
1:22:42
openly using its catchphrases and its concepts. He's speaking
1:22:45
at Q anon conventions, and this film is being marketed to either
1:22:50
specific Q anon believers or to people who believe all of the
1:22:53
same tenets as Q Anon, but claimed they don't know what it
1:22:56
is.
1:22:57
And the sound of freedom does focus on a real issue of sex
1:23:01
trafficking. But that theme, it's sort of like that kernel of
1:23:05
truth that feeds the Q anon conspiracy theory, tell us how
1:23:11
those two things work. So the kernel
1:23:13
Adam Curry: of ohana the kernel of truth, that children are
1:23:17
traffic, that's the kernel that feeds the Q anon conspiracy,
1:23:22
therefore that movie is no good. The
1:23:24
Unknown: Freedom does focus on a real issue of sex trafficking.
1:23:28
But that theme, it's sort of like that kernel of truth that
1:23:32
feeds the Q anon conspiracy theory, and tell us how those
1:23:37
two things work together.
1:23:39
Sure, and the most durable and the most believable conspiracy
1:23:42
theories are not entirely false. There's something in them that
1:23:46
is true, and the rest of it is false. But the believers point
1:23:49
to the one true thing and they say, Oh, you don't believe that
1:23:51
this particular thing is true. In terms of child trafficking.
1:23:54
We know trafficking is real. We know it has real victims, no one
1:23:57
is denying that. But these films are created out of moral panics.
1:24:02
They're created out of bogus statistics. They're created out
1:24:05
of fear. And it was something like sound of freedom. It
1:24:07
specifically is looking at q&a on concepts of these child
1:24:11
trafficking rings that are run by the high level elites. And
1:24:15
only people like Tim Ballard, and only people like Jim
1:24:17
Caviezel, and by extension, only people like the ticket buyer can
1:24:21
help bring these trafficking rings down. So there's a very
1:24:23
participatory elements. You're not just going to see a movie
1:24:26
you're just killing two hours on a hot day, you are helping bring
1:24:30
down these these pedophile rings and save children. Now it's not
1:24:33
true, but it's a very comforting and it's very warm feeling to
1:24:37
have.
1:24:38
Adam Curry: Wow, way to bring it first of all, this movie is
1:24:42
going to be one of the biggest box offices of all times
1:24:45
John C Dvorak: now. Yeah, with that kind of promotion. And so
1:24:48
how now I was not interested in this movie. And now I want to
1:24:52
see
1:24:53
Adam Curry: Yes. And how is it that this is a problem this this
1:24:57
movie about child trafficking is a problem. Um, but this is okay.
1:25:02
Unknown: I've always wanted to be able to lactate. And today,
1:25:06
my doctor after my EKG results, said that she's feeling
1:25:11
competent enough to start me on this medication regularly. And
1:25:17
it has serious side effects. But I'm only going to be taking it
1:25:21
for two weeks up to three weeks possible.
1:25:24
Adam Curry: Now by the way, tell me this is a Matthew
1:25:26
McConaughey.
1:25:28
Unknown: So within two weeks, I should be lactating. The rest is
1:25:31
on me. I'm going to have a supply Neuchtel little this is
1:25:36
the tough part. I have one pump I need to and the matter of
1:25:43
lactase, the amount of pumping that I have to do to lactate is
1:25:48
gonna require a better one. But I got I mean, I have electric
1:25:50
pump, but I need the two ago. And I need them where they're
1:25:53
more compact. And I'm gonna start a GoFundMe. So this
1:25:57
Adam Curry: is it. So crowdfund a movie about child trafficking.
1:26:00
You are Q anon This is no good. You got brain worms. But
1:26:04
crowdfund for your for the dude to lactate right on. This is
1:26:09
Murca baby. Yeah,
1:26:10
John C Dvorak: it was disgusting. I had that clip to
1:26:12
Of course you did is the second part of this where he showed
1:26:18
where I didn't clip it because I was actually gross.
1:26:22
Adam Curry: I go ahead and say it.
1:26:24
John C Dvorak: He's actually lactating and he shows this.
1:26:28
This milk in a jar he shakes it is like it's enough to make it
1:26:32
throw up. And he's so proud of himself.
1:26:39
Adam Curry: And he says he can't wait to give babies trans milk.
1:26:41
That was the punchline. You forgot that part.
1:26:43
John C Dvorak: Yes. Yeah. He went on and on. It was really
1:26:45
gross. That guys, and the guys is getting bald. Heads, shaved
1:26:50
head gauged ears, so it's big holes in his ear lobes. And a
1:26:55
nose ring and a piercing in his chin. It's just a grotesque
1:27:01
person. Yes.
1:27:03
Adam Curry: But that's all good. That's all good. Should give
1:27:06
that guy a go. primetime show. Well, thank God, there's a
1:27:11
movement here. I'm very, very happy that this is happening is
1:27:15
this is this is so. So odd. You know, it's like you're
1:27:20
overstepping your bounds people your underwear showing the the
1:27:24
vigor that they're going after this movie can only be for one
1:27:28
of two things. One, the money that is being lost, which is
1:27:33
likely loss on this huge on these huge productions. You
1:27:38
know, Oppenheimer was supposed to be the big Fourth of July.
1:27:41
John C Dvorak: That's a toy. That's a total No, no, I don't
1:27:43
even want to see. I know. We've heard so much. We know so much
1:27:47
about Oppenheimer. Why are we getting this movie? It's like,
1:27:51
so it's old news.
1:27:53
Adam Curry: The only thing I could think about that is
1:27:55
because it's about you know, the atom bomb. And I was listening
1:27:58
to Bobby The que en Lex Friedman, which I was very
1:28:04
interested in because I know Lex Friedman would you know, abhor
1:28:07
him and and the K is talking about the duck and cover days
1:28:12
during the you know, the 12 days of the missing the Cuban Missile
1:28:16
Crisis, and that his dead
1:28:18
John C Dvorak: duck and cover days was went throughout the 50s
1:28:21
Yes, but
1:28:21
Adam Curry: during that time, they were doing duck and cover
1:28:24
in school and his dad, Robbie, Robbie, the K had had said, I
1:28:29
don't want you doing that. Because I don't want anyone to
1:28:33
see that. You're You're ducking and covering you're going into
1:28:36
the basement you're going into the shelter. He says because the
1:28:39
whole duck and cover thing is a psychological operation on the
1:28:43
American people to accept the whole notion of nuclear warfare.
1:28:49
which I had never heard anyone admit before. And so the
1:28:55
opposite
1:28:55
John C Dvorak: is interesting. I would duck and cover anyway
1:28:59
because everyone else is so I
1:29:01
Adam Curry: think I think that dog barking that's a dog barking
1:29:04
Yes. She smells Adrenochrome like and with that I'd like to
1:29:09
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1:29:22
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Adam Curry: And in the mornings, the trolls and the troll room
1:29:32
was like hey
1:29:40
that's okay feeds It's okay. It's okay girl.
1:29:42
John C Dvorak: I like this Alan is great. She's got a big voice
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Adam Curry: on her. We have 2409 Trolls with us today. I think is
1:29:51
pretty good. I
1:29:52
Unknown: Phoebe is pretty normal Phoebe quiet.
1:29:57
Adam Curry: She listens to me I have control. Is that normal?
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It's good furs. It's normal for Sunday, we're
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because you know, feelings. But we also want to hype up the
1:33:17
winning piece of art which was served Parker Pauly with just an
1:33:20
outstanding piece. This was the no agenda, Biden Harris logo
1:33:25
with cocaine overtones, shall I say,
1:33:30
John C Dvorak: you know, also Paul couture should be given
1:33:32
some kudos for changing the layout of this page. Yes,
1:33:35
Adam Curry: he's done it now. Thank you. I noticed that too.
1:33:37
He's done it now. By ease. He's given us
1:33:41
John C Dvorak: by show number. Yeah, show number was easier for
1:33:43
us to figure out what shows us.
1:33:45
Adam Curry: What are we looking at? Excuse me.
1:33:49
John C Dvorak: So yes, the Biden Harris thing, which was the
1:33:52
first thing I mean, it was just it jumped off. There's a lot of
1:33:56
good stuff here, which is always got to be annoying to the
1:33:59
artists when they do good work. And there's a lot of good work
1:34:02
in this one. There's about five pieces that are usable,
1:34:04
stunning. A lot of them I like stunning pieces really? And
1:34:09
Adam Curry: well. Let's see. So we had the Biden Harris, which
1:34:11
was the razor blade, although, you know, I got Christina and
1:34:14
Kevin here. So that's a great piece of art, but dad just so
1:34:17
you know, nobody uses a razor blade anymore. Because you call
1:34:22
me out as a fuddy duddy
1:34:24
John C Dvorak: you're a fuddy duddy. fuddy duddy Did you ask
1:34:27
them what they use instead of a razor blade?
1:34:30
Adam Curry: Yeah, of course they just do Molly to swing on. You
1:34:33
should
1:34:33
John C Dvorak: have called the cops.
1:34:35
Adam Curry: We don't do coke. We just do Molly. There were some
1:34:40
other good pieces. A lot of banana peels which were
1:34:44
appealing, but didn't quite cut it ghost guns was cute. I
1:34:49
personally thought the Kenny Ben Taunton. Neil was very funny.
1:34:54
That's a Dutch joke.
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John C Dvorak: Well, I liked the comic strip. lagers,
1:35:00
Fredericksburg, we have gays. We've got lots of gays.
1:35:05
Adam Curry: It was a little too small but I liked it too. I
1:35:08
thought it was funny. And that is the Fredericksburg sign.
1:35:11
John C Dvorak: Yeah the Frederick
1:35:14
Adam Curry: we got lots of gays we're a gay friendly town. So
1:35:18
you know it hunters Oreo cute because they're more addictive
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than codec by
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John C Dvorak: the way. I will say this about them. We have
1:35:25
gays we have lots of gays. Yeah. Contrast helps. Yeah, yes. I
1:35:31
agree. React to contrast a little bit on this piece. Yeah,
1:35:34
Adam Curry: because they kind of blend it into the background too
1:35:37
much.
1:35:38
John C Dvorak: It's like low contrast. Yeah.
1:35:42
Adam Curry: Yeah. What else was there? Media assassins poster.
1:35:48
Cute. But now No, Hunter buy lots of Hunter Biden coke
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baggies. Yeah, there's just no doubt. This Parker Polly piece
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was a winner. A clear winner, a dynamite winner. And just a
1:36:02
great job really was a great job.
1:36:05
John C Dvorak: But the best of the banana peel piece we should
1:36:07
mention his sizzle Tron had a banana peel that was in the form
1:36:11
of like a slipper or a high heel. Yeah, that
1:36:14
Adam Curry: was very cute. Very higher up.
1:36:15
John C Dvorak: What was good about this piece to me was it's
1:36:19
very dimensional. It's very, it's just a beautiful piece of
1:36:23
art calling
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Adam Curry: out the dimensionality of the art. Very
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good. Very good. So in this value for value model, the idea
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Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. And they're searchable. Now with
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John C Dvorak: I'm drinking a Bud Light.
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Adam Curry: I'm sure you are. Let us start with our first
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Adam Curry: you've got karma now Perhaps. Perhaps this is some
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Adam Curry: what I thought but I tried now it's not gonna happen.
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1571 For this July 9. And since it's all pretty short from here
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know there's a guy who's they have built a sterling car once
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you built the Sterling Yeah, I built a Stirling and I know that
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but I swapped out the Volkswagen engine and put a Porsche engine
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and it wishes
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Adam Curry: that yes yes you put the six cylinder Porsche engine
1:48:47
in
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John C Dvorak: there no four was the flat was only good fit in
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there. And there used to be a guy who got all the Sterling
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owners in trouble because he kept ditching the police and his
1:49:00
name was Joe Cool. spelled exactly the same way
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Adam Curry: do you what color was your Sterling
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John C Dvorak: bright orange
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Adam Curry: you really drove one of these yeah no did did the top
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the yeah the removable top and everything?
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John C Dvorak: No, I never was removable just opened funny.
1:49:21
Adam Curry: Oh, I thought I thought there Oh, that's how it
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opened. I thought it was removable. So now this this was
1:49:25
a kid hole top
1:49:26
John C Dvorak: comes off with to get out right. I
1:49:28
Adam Curry: was a kid car right? Yeah. As a Kitt car, to what
1:49:31
happened to it.
1:49:33
John C Dvorak: I sold it to a guy in San Jose eventually. Like
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maybe
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Adam Curry: I would have been years ago. I would have loved to
1:49:38
have seen you roll up in that. Hey, girls.
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John C Dvorak: Well, it was in terms of a pickup car. Believe
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me a Corvette was a better idea. I'll tell you why. For one
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thing, you couldn't roll up to anyone and say hi girls because
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the windows didn't know you
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Adam Curry: had to open the hole the hole we had to take the
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whole roof off.
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John C Dvorak: To Say hi girls and you look like a doofus
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Adam Curry: Okay, that was problem one oh components
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John C Dvorak: some nice pipes on that thing that blow Porsche
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engine sounded good was some I forgot the brand but there were
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some
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Adam Curry: side by side pipe side pipes.
1:50:18
John C Dvorak: No No they weren't there they went out the
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back. Wow they
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Adam Curry: should reissue this thing again. That's what a cool
1:50:24
thing to build on a cool car that was.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was one of the best looking cars I've
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ever driven Curtis cool anyways in East Stroudsburg,
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Pennsylvania 7714 And he thanks us for working on the holidays.
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Our pleasure man as a birthday for him for someone Ashley
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Larson on Ham Lake Minnesota 606 Kevin McLaughlin in Concord,
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John C Dvorak: moved to Concord.
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Adam Curry: So small boobs.
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Adam Curry: And a special reading of a note here from our
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Hello Adam and John. I'm writing as I've recently become a knight
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one of the induce we do indeed have one title change for today.
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John. I'm sorry sir Dix birth there we go. Sir. diksa becomes
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a Baronet. Due to his upping of support of the best podcast in
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the universe and we appreciate that sir dicks but now
1:56:11
officially a Baronet? We have let me see what we have. Oh
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Crikey. We have only one I thought we had a dame as well
1:56:20
then we have a dame we have a dame for sure. Why do I know
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here. I know because we just we just we just yeah
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John C Dvorak: yeah, it's right to top thanks to top person let
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me see what's going on Erica waltz. She's gonna be de Mad Dog
1:56:40
Goodwin
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Adam Curry: now I'm pretty sure this was not how about that No,
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it's not on there.
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1:56:49
this is the this is going to be caused caused a great
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concentration
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Adam Curry: consternation in the back office. So it's Erica at
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home I can get this information here. I'm glad I caught it
1:57:01
because that really sucks when you're waiting for it. Okay Dame
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Mad Dog Goodwin yes indeed and Erica waltz will become that
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Sadly, could not make the big Austin meet up this past week.
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And of course we have the kids in town so that I didn't think
1:58:45
they would appreciate driving an hour and 45 minutes to do the
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John C Dvorak: From Austin. Yes. From Austin.
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Adam Curry: Yes. Why?
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John C Dvorak: Oh, I was just wondering, okay. There's no
1:59:15
reason I
1:59:15
Adam Curry: don't care. I was just curious. I got you.
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John C Dvorak: interfering with your schedule as well,
1:59:22
Adam Curry: to some degree. Here's a meet up report from
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Oxford, Mississippi.
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Unknown: ITM, John and Adam, this is Buffy at the first ever.
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Sippy sippi Ms. Mississippi.
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Hey, this is Blake Adams. Just another dude named Ben at the
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first ever meet up. Hi, this is Greg.
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I've just been hit in the mouth. And here's the friend that did
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it.
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Hey, I'm John. And they're putting chemicals in the alcohol
1:59:47
that are making me drunk.
1:59:49
Thanks, Shawn. And Adam, this is Lance and my wife hit me in the
1:59:52
mouth. And I'm so glad I came. We'll see it the next velvet
1:59:55
ditch meetup.
1:59:56
Adam Curry: All right, in the morning to all of you. Thank you
1:59:58
very much for showing up. Here's a couple of You know what's
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happening in the next few days today actually, downtown East
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down south. That's the meetup in REL right po ticket tech Korea,
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that Scarborough in Maine so you better hurry up if you want to
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catch that one. It may be over the July 9 Harlem meet up that
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is in the Netherlands. They're probably well underway and
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inebriated. That's the boat tour through Harlem's canals. I can't
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wait to hear that meet up. Oh, yeah, the Dutch are creative
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man. Mexico City's first meet up five o'clock Mexico City time.
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That'll be to de la service shitless of each Tierra del
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that's the content of what I just said. On Thursday next show
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Norwegian crossover meet up at six o'clock at the starving
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Unknown: sometimes you go hang out with Tyson day you'd be
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triggered you want to be everybody feels the same it's
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like
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Adam Curry: man even though we still have plenty of show left,
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I suppose. Did you bring any ISOs I have one
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John C Dvorak: but play yours first. Okay
2:02:35
Adam Curry: I have to
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Unknown: bow has amazing night is absolutely amazing. Nice.
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Adam Curry: Here's my other one salmonella salmonella salmonella
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is part of a clip they didn't play. Good. Yeah, exactly.
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John C Dvorak: I only have one is podcasting
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Unknown: podcasts and alternative news outlets are
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enough.
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Adam Curry: That's a little long. So just a tad long. The
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mean do you think that's better than the thank you for your
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thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
2:03:13
Thank you
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John C Dvorak: we'll play yours again.
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Adam Curry: Okay, hold on a second. I'm gonna rewrite got
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Iraq. It takes a second Iraq here it is. Here's mine. Set bow
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has
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Unknown: amazing. That is absolutely amazing. My
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Adam Curry: it's not great. A little at the end. I cut that
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off. I cut it off.
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John C Dvorak: I think the amazing one it works. I don't
2:03:38
really have a problem with it.
2:03:39
Unknown: Podcasts and alternative news outlets are
2:03:41
enough.
2:03:42
Adam Curry: Have you seen this podcast? You know, I have a beef
2:03:45
here. I have a beef.
2:03:48
John C Dvorak: I do. I've got a couple of yeah, a lot of beef in
2:03:50
Texas. Yeah, we got
2:03:51
Adam Curry: tons of beef. US podcast misinformation goes
2:03:55
largely unchecked. Notice they never put our show in these
2:03:59
articles. That's because we're never we don't have
2:04:02
misinformation. Exactly. But here's what they write. This is
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News guard. So this is a stupid firm that is now if we were
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doing ads, we will be broke. Because newsguard affirm that
2:04:16
rates the credibility of websites announced in May it
2:04:19
will begin evaluating the trustworthiness of popular
2:04:22
podcasts.
2:04:23
John C Dvorak: But this is the idea is to run podcasts that are
2:04:26
stupid enough to bring in advertisers that are squirrely,
2:04:30
generally speaking. Yeah. They're wimpy and squirrely. And
2:04:34
they show you sure we can begin to do this with the podcast. I
2:04:37
don't know Bill, what do you think? And so they'll bail out
2:04:41
left and right and so they see us and what's the point
2:04:44
Adam Curry: newsguard said it will release the rating the
2:04:46
ratings rate ratings for some 200 podcasts in 2024, giving
2:04:52
more transparency to listeners and an herbalist like listeners
2:04:56
care what transcript Yeah, so listen to
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John C Dvorak: the truth. Giving transparency data. Well, what's
2:05:02
it going to do transparency? You're going to treat it like
2:05:04
the podcast. Yes.
2:05:06
Adam Curry: And enabling advertisers to avoid podcast
2:05:09
featuring information or content at odds with their brand. Yeah,
2:05:15
which is everyone. editorial director Eric Efron said reading
2:05:19
podcasts is, quote, more challenging than other content
2:05:23
because of the audio format, which requires time to listen
2:05:26
and to examine transcripts. And this takes a tremendous
2:05:31
investment, because we use human intelligence.
2:05:35
John C Dvorak: Wow, why would anyone use the word human
2:05:38
intelligence unless they're spooks?
2:05:40
Adam Curry: Because he's playing off of AI, artificial
2:05:44
intelligence. But here's the here's the beef that I have.
2:05:50
Being neo Nazi podcasters who said Prince Harry and Megan son,
2:05:55
Archie is an abomination that should be put down for being
2:05:59
mixed race had been convicted of terror crimes. Now, I know a lot
2:06:06
about podcasts. And, in fact, you know, me and Dave Jones, we
2:06:12
built a little index called podcast index.org. And we know
2:06:15
what's a podcast and what's not a podcast? So when they say this
2:06:20
is the Daily Mail these two jokes Christopher Gibbons, 38
2:06:25
and Tyrone Paton Walsh 34 hosted Black Wolf radio, homophobic,
2:06:32
racist, anti semitic Islamophobic and misogynistic
2:06:36
podcast.
2:06:38
John C Dvorak: I can tell you rap and put it in a nutshell. I
2:06:40
can tell
2:06:41
Adam Curry: you, that's not a podcast. It never was in the
2:06:45
index. It was never subscribable and we have everything that is
2:06:49
that is nut job. It might have been a rumble. It might have
2:06:53
been a Bridey on but they never put it up on an RSS all the
2:06:59
rumble. Yeah, so it's not a podcast to get it right. Daily
2:07:04
Mail.
2:07:05
John C Dvorak: Well, I'm glad you excoriated them. Yeah,
2:07:08
Adam Curry: it's annoying. It's just annoying. All right,
2:07:11
John C Dvorak: it's back. So I got Kennedy. I got this gal lift
2:07:15
guy who's gonna who's I don't know Israeli intelligence. Maybe
2:07:19
I don't know what Yeah, so
2:07:20
Adam Curry: I explained the background of this gal LWF guy
2:07:24
because he just popped up out of nowhere he's a whistleblower.
2:07:26
He's a Mossad. Whatever he is, he's an Israeli.
2:07:30
John C Dvorak: He seems to have been he don't know what he is.
2:07:31
He is an Israeli we know that.
2:07:33
Adam Curry: He seems to have been in business with Hunter
2:07:35
maybe or something with the
2:07:37
John C Dvorak: China he was in business with the Chinese oil
2:07:40
company. And so
2:07:41
Adam Curry: all of a sudden, this guy is spilling the tea on
2:07:44
the bike. Well,
2:07:45
John C Dvorak: here, he explains it probably better than I can
2:07:48
with clip one Biden hit Dr. Gal lift.
2:07:52
Unknown: Good day. My name is Dr. Gahl. Loved. For the past 20
2:07:57
years, I have been the co director of the Institute for
2:08:00
the analysis of global security, a Washington based think tank
2:08:04
focused on energy security, or stink tank. For the past 15
2:08:09
years, I've been a resident of Israel. And for four years, I
2:08:13
was senior adviser to the China energy company CFC, at the same
2:08:18
time of its dealings with the Biden family. Under normal
2:08:23
circumstances, I will be testifying before Congress about
2:08:28
my experience with CFC. Sadly, due to circumstances I shall
2:08:34
describe here in this video, I am forced to tell you the story
2:08:40
via video. My ordeal goes back to a fatal decision I made in
2:08:48
March of 2019 to share with the US government my knowledge about
2:08:53
the Biden family's relations with CFC. As I said it was in
2:08:57
March of 2019. In a two day session at the US Embassy in
2:09:04
Brussels. I insisted that the meeting take place in March
2:09:09
because at the time they will rumor was that Joe Biden who was
2:09:13
planning to run for president, I saw it as my civic duty to alert
2:09:17
the government beforehand and give it enough time to probe the
2:09:21
issue. I want to be clear, I am not a Republican. I'm not a
2:09:26
Democrat. I have no political motive or agenda. I did it out
2:09:32
of deep concern that if the Biden's were to come to power,
2:09:36
the country would be facing the same traumatic Russia collusion
2:09:40
scandal. Only this time was China. Sadly, because of the DOJ
2:09:47
is cover up. This is exactly what happened.
2:09:52
Adam Curry: A couple of things. One, CFC that's a Chinese energy
2:09:57
firm. Right? Yeah. But to he said he made a fatal mistake. Is
2:10:03
he dead?
2:10:04
John C Dvorak: No, he's not dead.
2:10:07
Adam Curry: Good point. And he also said no agenda, which I
2:10:09
kind of liked that he kind of said no
2:10:11
John C Dvorak: agenda. That's all. So he goes on. Yeah,
2:10:17
there's a lot of clips here, but I'm only gonna play a couple of
2:10:19
them because he kind of is he's not interesting. He's in terms
2:10:23
of his presentation. He doesn't have any dynamic range. He just
2:10:26
goes on and on with his spiel. And you have to wonder who is an
2:10:31
asset for somebody? We can't figure out who, cuz Why would we
2:10:34
know but here we go.
2:10:37
Unknown: The DOJ sent to Brussels, a delegation of six
2:10:42
people to prosecutors from the Southern District of New York,
2:10:47
by the names of Daniel right Intel and Catherine Ghosh. And
2:10:52
four FBI agents. One of them was special agent, Joshua Wilson
2:10:59
from the Baltimore Field Office, which also happens to cover the
2:11:03
state of Delaware. Or you want to ask yourself, why did the
2:11:06
government dispatched to Europe so many people? Why six? Why not
2:11:12
to? The answer is that they knew very well that I am a credible
2:11:17
witness, and that I have insider knowledge about the group and
2:11:23
the individuals that enrich the Biden family. Over it intensive
2:11:28
to you to the meeting, I shared my information about the Biden
2:11:33
family's financial transactions with CFC, including specific
2:11:38
dollar figures. I also provided the name of ROB Walker, who
2:11:43
later became known as Hunter Biden's bagman. You yet as we
2:11:50
now know today from the whistleblower testimony, Gary
2:11:56
Shapley, it took the DOJ the whole 21 month to probe the
2:12:01
issue and to actually talk to Walker. But perhaps the most
2:12:06
alarming information I revealed was of a mole within the DOJ who
2:12:12
shared classified information with Hunter Biden and his
2:12:15
Chinese partners. I told the DOJ that Hunter was closely
2:12:20
associated with a very senior retire retired FBI official who
2:12:25
had distinct physical characteristic. He had one eye
2:12:30
one of the FBI agents at the time, even told me, you know,
2:12:35
that would be very easy for us to find there aren't that many
2:12:38
one eyed people in the bureau?
2:12:42
Adam Curry: Alright, that I have a couple of questions because I
2:12:44
of course, I saw this whole thing. No worries, like 15
2:12:47
minutes.
2:12:48
John C Dvorak: It goes on for days.
2:12:50
Adam Curry: One why does this Israeli national Why is he
2:12:54
really doing that? He's saying because he's so patriotic for
2:12:57
America. I find that sketchy.
2:13:01
John C Dvorak: That's all I got questions to keep going
2:13:03
Adam Curry: to. You know, what is he really telling us? That's
2:13:07
new Other than this, this is the only thing that's new is there
2:13:10
was a mole one guy that one is the one I DOJ guy. That guy.
2:13:17
John C Dvorak: There's about this for another question. Why
2:13:20
is he going to the embassy in Belgium there's an Embassy in
2:13:25
Tel Aviv another good question. Why is he just go to the local
2:13:30
embassy right there? He's in Israel.
2:13:33
Adam Curry: I don't know that. I find this this whole thing.
2:13:37
Question fishy. really sketchy?
2:13:40
John C Dvorak: I think it's I think it's fishy in a lot of
2:13:43
different on a lot of dimension. I
2:13:45
Adam Curry: really liked the one I guy though. I mean, the one I
2:13:48
guys good. There's gonna be some guy who's just gonna show up on
2:13:52
the scene. And when people got that, that's the one.
2:13:55
John C Dvorak: That'd be the guy. He's got one. I,
2:13:57
Adam Curry: you know, that's gonna happen.
2:14:00
John C Dvorak: Hey, we'll play one more.
2:14:01
Adam Curry: Yeah, which one? Three.
2:14:05
Unknown: The information they provided the FBI in March of
2:14:08
2019 was fully corroborated. Nine months later, when the
2:14:14
famous laptop belonging to Hunter Biden, which contained
2:14:17
all the emails and receipts, was handed to the FBI. And guess who
2:14:22
seized the laptop from the computer repair shop. It was
2:14:28
special agent Joshua Wilson, who was with me in Brussels earlier.
2:14:36
In other words the FBI knew about from me about the Biden
2:14:42
CFC deals before they got hold of the laptop way before they
2:14:48
had enough time to investigate the issue. But they didn't.
2:14:54
After Brussels, I never heard back from the DOJ. But instead
2:14:58
of showing appreciation for My whistleblowing I became public
2:15:02
enemy number one. For the past four years that followed me, my
2:15:07
family Fonasa
2:15:08
Adam Curry: whistleblowing is not just the guy who says, Hey,
2:15:11
someone I do knows all about it. A whistleblower is someone who
2:15:15
works in government and is is blowing the whistle on
2:15:20
corruption or something happening inside the
2:15:22
organization right inside, you'd
2:15:24
John C Dvorak: have to be part you have to be if he worked for
2:15:26
the DOJ, he could, he could say was the whistle. So
2:15:29
Adam Curry: I don't like any data, which I don't like. And I
2:15:32
think you and I agree that clearly the Biden's are up to no
2:15:35
good but this guy just doesn't seem like the guy. We need the
2:15:40
one I got that's that's clear.
2:15:42
John C Dvorak: And the other thing too, but he does bring up
2:15:44
an interesting point about you know, every time anyone goes
2:15:46
after the Biden's if we connect that to Biden being involved in
2:15:51
the takedown of Europe, because she he was mentioned in the in
2:15:55
the phone call that we played. He's part of a bigger system,
2:16:01
they can't afford to let him get become a distraction in any way.
2:16:07
Nothing's going to happen to Joe Biden. No,
2:16:10
Adam Curry: but we know what hunter is going to have this
2:16:12
unfortunate jet engine ingestion. Just tell I'm just
2:16:16
like the
2:16:17
John C Dvorak: fact that you're sticking with it and with it.
2:16:20
Unknown: After Brussels, I never heard back from the DOJ. But
2:16:23
instead of showing appreciation for my whistleblowing, I became
2:16:27
public enemy number one. Over the past four years that
2:16:31
followed me, my family, my friends, my associates, were all
2:16:36
arrest intimidated. And finally, I was prosecuted. Despite all
2:16:42
that, on the eve of the 2020 elections, I sent my lawyer to
2:16:48
Washington to meet with then acting deputy attorney general
2:16:54
is to reach out to you to ensure he was informed about the
2:16:58
information had given his department in Brussels 19 months
2:17:02
earlier. And also to warn him that there may still be a mole
2:17:08
within the DOJ. Mr. Donner you'll confirm to my lawyer that
2:17:12
he was aware of my claims but now we learned from the IRS
2:17:16
whistleblower that it was reached Donohue himself who
2:17:19
suspended the investigation few weeks earlier on September
2:17:24
4 2020 on the grounds that it was quote too close to the
2:17:30
elections
2:17:33
Adam Curry: I don't know man What is this guy's up ended up
2:17:37
with I'll always be on the run now. Yeah, right. And why What
2:17:43
are you worried about?
2:17:45
Unknown: My um,
2:17:47
John C Dvorak: I feel the same way you do I think the whole
2:17:50
time that I got more I do we can stop it there because it's just
2:17:53
pretty much the same. Yeah, but it's you know, the DOJ is
2:17:57
courageous the same no crunchy at this and these but he named
2:18:02
some names which is kind of cool and but he himself this guy is a
2:18:08
little a little sketchy.
2:18:10
Adam Curry: All right, let me do some other stuff. But here's
2:18:14
something that we've been hearing. For several weeks.
2:18:16
We've talked about it on the show. We've we've we've gotten
2:18:20
people to explain to us what they are. And once again, here
2:18:24
comes forever chemicals forever chemicals. It's everywhere.
2:18:28
They're forever. They're chemicals that are for ever
2:18:32
Unknown: in tonight's healthsmart new water concerns.
2:18:35
Researchers say nearly half the tap water in the United States
2:18:38
contains forever chemicals known as PFA Is there a group of
2:18:43
synthetic chemicals found in many cleaning products that
2:18:46
linger in the environment and the human body? A new US
2:18:50
Geological Survey study discovered 45% of us tap water
2:18:55
contains forever chemicals with the highest amounts in central
2:18:59
and southern California. The exposure to PFS is linked to
2:19:03
problems like cancer, obesity, thyroid disease, high
2:19:07
cholesterol, decreased fertility, liver damage and
2:19:10
hormone suppression.
2:19:12
Adam Curry: Now when I heard that list, first thing I thought
2:19:14
was man, they're doing anything to cover for the ozempic side
2:19:17
effects but I think there's something else going on here.
2:19:21
They finally figured out they want to get to our water. And I
2:19:27
said when I heard this CBS report with the solution because
2:19:31
you know we have the problem of course that's the Forever
2:19:34
chemicals we've been it's been been building for weeks. We've
2:19:37
kept hearing these reports forever chemicals, okay,
2:19:40
everyone's hearing about forever chemicals. There hasn't really
2:19:42
been a huge reaction outrage but okay, here's the solution.
2:19:46
There's
2:19:46
Unknown: a disturbing new study out today. The nation's drinking
2:19:50
water researchers found that nearly half of the tap water in
2:19:53
this country contains potentially harmful compounds
2:19:56
known as forever chemicals. They're linked to a wide range
2:19:59
of health problems including cancer, high blood pressure and
2:20:02
fertility issues. CBS is Mark Strassman takes an in depth look
2:20:06
at a new technology that could make so called Forever chemicals
2:20:11
disappear
2:20:12
technology. Nasty cargo 10,000 gallons of landfill water laced
2:20:18
with PFS, a known carcinogen that nothing could get rid of.
2:20:23
Until now
2:20:23
we're concentrating the nasty stuff to allow the Annihilator
2:20:27
system to treat it.
2:20:28
Not just treat PFS blast them out of existence. These so
2:20:32
called Forever chemicals are manmade used in Teflon
2:20:36
firefighting foam, even facial makeup and previously
2:20:40
indestructible. This is where the PDFs go. That's correct.
2:20:45
Last year we showed you Battelle, a nonprofit research
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institute doing a small scale field test, distilling water
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into pee fast concentrate, they're really nasty stuff for
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destruction. It worked a technological first, leaving
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behind water and salts harmless to the environment.
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You've got to have enough force and energy to break those bonds.
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Now another first scaling that technology like this forklift
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carrying the concentrate for treatment. The PFS annihilator
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lives inside this converted cargo container with heat and
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pressure. It blasts the PFS concentrate these forever
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chemicals gone without a trace within seconds here in Grand
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Rapids. This retooled water treatment plant is North
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America's first permitted pee fast remediation facility. Were
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you convinced it would work? We had a lot of hope that it would
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so How
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scalable is it? It's could be much more scalable, much larger
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than this. This plants
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treating a half million gallons a week, the market seems
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virtually limitless.
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John C Dvorak: This is only the tip of the iceberg of us being
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able to get the scalable technology to market and
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customers for the
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Unknown: first time. Nothing about P FOSS is forever.
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Adam Curry: The again, like what is this now all of a sudden
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they've got some way to treat native ad Yes. But for some
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company that's trying to get investment I think not sure.
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Kind of like oh,
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John C Dvorak: so Jesse, Jaycees wife and JC to a lesser extent
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they're very good at searching out the best of the best of
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various kinds of things. And so she's a freak about the water.
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So she you know, bread is no good. And they were using the
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zero water system.
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Adam Curry: They don't have a Berkey
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John C Dvorak: I'm just putting this out there for people who
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want to try these things. Okay. And the one that they finally
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know that one of the finally concluded was the best because
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it takes out fluoride, supposedly, and I biotics and
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all this crap in the water. And I've been using it, it makes a
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delicious glass of water, I would say I'll say that. It's