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John C Dvorak: game set match
the lizard people when Adam
curry Jhansi Devora July 13 2023
Adam Curry: This Year Award
winning give our nation media
assassination episode 1572. This
is no agenda, marking up the DMZ
and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas hill country
here in FEMA Region number six
in the morning, everybody. I'm
Adam curry,
John C Dvorak: and from Northern
Silicon Valley where our summer
has finally begun, at least for
a day I'm John C. Dvorak.
Adam Curry: Our summer is hot
one
John C Dvorak: is summer for
months. Yeah,
Adam Curry: we have like 105 106
now Yeah, nice. Yeah, well, you
know, it's all climate change
obviously. Hello.
John C Dvorak: Oh, yeah. It's
always been that way for the
last 100 years there's been
climate change in Texas I'm
Adam Curry: a change its climate
is climate change. Here's ABC
proving it to its its climate
change. Most of
Unknown: California is seeing
temperatures more than 15
degrees above normal. And Las
Vegas could hit an all time
record of 118 degrees this
weekend. Yeah, baby
Las Vegas. And this is kind of a
nerdy thing that I'm always
interested in if Las Vegas
passes 117, which is kind of
their cap that would break an
all time record. I remember
being out at the National
Weather Service in Las Vegas and
asking them why is it 117? Well,
it looks like this Sunday, we
might even be able
to break that heat is the
deadliest natural hazard in the
US, with an average of nearly
1400 additional deaths each year
due to more days over 90
degrees. And it's not just
rising temperatures on land.
About 40% of the world's oceans
are experiencing a heatwave.
Scientists say climate change is
also triggering more extreme
rain events, which could be a
factor in this slow moving
disaster unfolding in Southern
California. At least 12 homes
are collapsing into a ravine in
rolling hills, and 16 others are
at risk. State geologists tell
me that record rains this year
have unleashed 1000s of
landslides. And it's often the
biggest ones that take the
longest to form, which is why
there's concern of additional
landslides here. In the coming
months, scientists are also
taking a closer look at what
they call underground climate
change in big cities. A new
study found the land beneath
Chicago has warmed by more than
five degrees in the past 70
years, causing the ground under
buildings to swell and crack.
The effects of climate change
proving to be expensive. Farmers
Insurance is now reducing
coverage in Florida and
California due in part to
extreme weather.
Adam Curry: I want to stay with
California for a moment. That
thanks to being at.io was able
to find the following clip from
no agenda episode one. I live in
86. because California has
always been a hellhole. If only
it was a clip. It's there were
no clips. News article. Yes, it
was the diary of the professor
and we think it was 1860 and he
wrote that California he did not
understand how anyone could or
would ever want to live there
because it is hell on earth with
its mudslides. Its fires and
earthquakes. It's always been a
hellhole always misses me again,
in 2020 Oh, this is me. I know
well, it's only only 14 400
episodes ago. It's always been a
hellhole. There's nothing new
it's documented DACA yes proof
we had to clip as proof but as I
predicted,
John C Dvorak: we always had
vigilantes too so there's no
Adam Curry: as I predicted just
on the last show what are we
gonna get tonight
Unknown: a case of extreme
turbulence over the US several
passengers on board in the
Legion Airlines Flight were
injured when the plane was hit
by severe turbulence plane
nearly full from Asheville,
North Carolina to St. Pete
Clearwater airport in Florida.
When pastor calling it
petrifying a flight attendant
sent into the air, the injuries
are not like threatened sent
Adam Curry: into the air. Now
again, the reason why this is
happening is in order to limit
climate change to save on fuel,
instead of stepping down from
level flight level to flight
level where you can comfortably
John C Dvorak: just avoid the
turbulence which was known where
it is.
Adam Curry: Yes, it's it's
called PI reps the pilots
report. Hey, we got some chop
here at this at this level.
Okay, we'll send everybody a
little bit higher. No, we can't
do that. We have to idle the
engines and glide all the way
down.
Unknown: It was a frightening
scene this afternoon for
passengers and crew on a legion
two to seven. The flight from
Asheville to St. Petersburg
Clearwater was in descent. When
per flight aware the plane
dropped more than 4000 feet in
less than a minute. We have two
passengers and two flight
attendants were taken to the
hospital. 179 passengers and six
crew are on board. One passenger
told our Tampa affiliates she
saw a flight attendant being
thrown around the cabin,
all of us and then we hit
major turbulence
where literally, she flew up in
the air like matrix is the only
way I can think
this is at least the third
incident in recent months
involving serious injuries. And
tonight the airline tells us it
will be investigating this
incident in coordination with
the NTSB and the FAA. Nora. That
is some scary turbulence meeting
Marquez. Thank you.
Adam Curry: So let's get into
this climate change turbulence.
John C Dvorak: Before we do
that, let's make mention of the
fact that this new FAA dude
doesn't have a pilot's license
never flown doesn't fly much. Is
a bonehead doesn't know anything
about the business. Oh, well,
who cares?
Adam Curry: It's body armor.
Remember
John C Dvorak: back in the old
days, Pac Man magazine. Okay,
here we go. You couldn't get a
job at PC Magazine. Unless you
were a computer hobbyist. You
knew something you had to have a
package and I was always told
well, you know, we do this
because all the you know, the
flight all these different air,
air as magazines about flying I
think flying was one of Yeah,
which was a Ziff Davis magazine
for a while he boys put ing at
the end of his Well, this was
the whole Ziff Davis and you
could not be it. You couldn't
write for that place. You
couldn't be an editor.
Unknown: Yeah, yeah, of course.
Of course.
John C Dvorak: You have to know
something to be in the business.
Adam Curry: Let's go to CBS. And
let's talk to an expert on
climate change. And intro last
Unknown: week, so four days of
record temperatures, and this
week is expected to be even
hotter. We now want to welcome
to the program. Kate Calvin,
NASA's chief scientist and
senior climate advisor. Good
morning. Good morning.
Adam Curry: Yeah, you already
know from that voice, it's gonna
be a good one. The chief climate
adviser. Okay.
John C Dvorak: Moody. Here we
go.
Unknown: I'm excited to be able
to ask you some of these
questions. I think a lot of
Adam Curry: why is she laughing?
Why cuz she's
John C Dvorak: excited.
Unknown: And excited to be able
to ask you some of these
questions that I think a lot of
people are wondering, this
Adam Curry: is just odd. Is she
really excited to talk to the
NASA climate advisor or she
excited because it's bull crap.
John C Dvorak: What do you
think? Maybe she's maybe She's
flirting with. You saw that you
saw the two of them
Unknown: super cute. Able to ask
you some
Adam Curry: questions. She's an
advisor. Yeah, advisors are
never ugly. Have you noticed
this? Just to pay attention,
please do.
Unknown: I'm excited to be able
to ask you some of these
questions. A lot of people are
wondering this week in
particular, it's
Adam Curry: almost like the
Bandcamp. Girl.
Unknown: Why is the weather so
extreme?
Adam Curry: Wow, this this is an
in depth interview. Ladies and
gentlemen. We're going we're
going straight to the
John C Dvorak: second. I know
where it was this.
Adam Curry: This is CBS.
John C Dvorak: CBS, the network.
Yes, yeah. Okay.
Unknown: In particular.
Adam Curry: Why Face the Nation
to be exact? Oh, Lord, Laura,
not just any old show. I mean,
this is this is the big show.
They
John C Dvorak: say she's the
she's the Hillary look alike.
You know, and during the gates
when I mentioned this,
everybody, so we were reminded,
okay, Laura Brennan, who does
that show currently, Margaret,
Margaret, Margaret Brennan and
Laura. Laura.
Adam Curry: From now on. She's
Laura Brennan, Brenda go, Laura.
John C Dvorak: Margaret Brennan,
who does this show and during
the COVID era, when she was
working out of her house. They
interviewed her just casually
for something and she had the
clip a hair clip on and and a
hair done a certain way. She
looked in her house and her
normal environment. She is a
dead ringer for Hillary
Adam Curry: in her younger years
in her younger No, this was
during COVID This is like no, I
mean, Hillary and her younger
years. Hillary's got Margaret.
John C Dvorak: Not current
Hillary No. Oh, nobody looks at
old Hillary. All right, here we
go.
Unknown: In particular. Why is
the weather so extreme? Can you
explain that for non scientists?
Adam Curry: Oh, for Nancy Jones.
It's us. Here you go. She's
explaining it for us. Yeah, so
Unknown: climate change is
driving increases in temperature
overall. We also have natural
cycles that affect temperature.
And so the one you're hearing
the most about in the news is El
Nino or La Nina. So El Nino
years tend to be warmer than La
Nina 2022 was a lot Nino year
was actually the warmest La Nina
year we've ever had. It was tied
for fifth warmest overall, we're
now moving into El Nino. So the
combination of climate change
and El Nino means we're seeing
higher global temperatures and
that brings with it impacts all
around the world to people
ECOSYS downs, extreme events and
other changes that are that were
impacting communities. Now do
you
Adam Curry: feel she explained,
explained? Well, what happened
here?
John C Dvorak: Didn't say
anything? No, she
Adam Curry: just said El Nino
Nina Nina Nina brew
Unknown: going apertures going
up. So ocean temperatures are
rising, as I understand it. And
that,
Adam Curry: as I understand it,
there's no evidence of this
ocean temperatures are rising.
They're just making that up
factors into
Unknown: this, can you
understand that
oceans absorb a lot of heat. And
so you're seeing increases in
ocean temperature. When we
identify El Nino, it's based on
ocean temperatures in a
particular part of the Pacific.
But the thing to keep in mind is
you know, oceans are actually
land is warming faster than
oceans. So the places where we
live are warming faster than the
ocean. So while we are seeing
these increases in ocean
temperatures, we're also seeing
increases in temperature over
land, again,
Adam Curry: no explanation to
just say, Yeah, ocean
temperatures, right, but land
temperatures rising faster. Who
cares? That's not an answer.
This is explain what's
happening. It's just saying
stuff. Let's get to something I
do I know something about which
is about the FAA. The
journalists turbulence. Yes. You
know, so again, in order to and
this is not just is FAA, it's
the airlines as well, they don't
care about you. Enjoy your bumpy
ride down. Yeah. We're saving
gas here, people, which the
airlines love that. They love
John C Dvorak: them if they can
get in any excuse to save some
cashiers money in the bank. And
so bottom line, they could
actually
Adam Curry: charge more for the
airline. That gives you a matrix
experience. But now, they
haven't figured that one out
yet. Let's talk about the severe
turbulence. So
Unknown: NASA has been doing
these reports or you're
crunching some of the data,
Adam Curry: John, she's
crunching some of the data,
crunching, crunching, crunching
the data, not just like not just
crunching
John C Dvorak: writing on her
stomach, and then doing it.
Adam Curry: We're like cereal
crunching so
Unknown: NASA has been doing
these reports where you're
crunching some of the data to
understand how to plan going
forward. I was looking at one of
them. It says there's going to
be severe turbulence with
airlines over large regions of
the Northern Hemisphere. Are we
already seeing that? And why
would that happen?
So we are experiencing impacts
of climate change everywhere
around the world. Right now.
There's different impacts in
different regions, I think
what's important to keep in mind
is that climate change is more
than just temperature. It's also
affecting things like the water
cycle. So we're seeing more
heavy precipitation events, more
droughts. We're seeing increases
in extreme events like storms.
And we can see those and those
impact how we travel, human
health, agriculture, and all
aspects of our lives.
Adam Curry: Answer the question.
She said nothing about
turbulence. Oh, no, it's
impacting us. It's just it's
everything, you know, everything
but she didn't answer the
turbulence question. What let's
try again with the planes,
planes, you moron. I asked about
the planes with the
Unknown: planes it How certain
are you that this will happen?
Or is it already happening?
So there's studies that indicate
that you can see increases in
turbulence linked to climate
change, and NASA some of what we
do around the aircraft. We have
a large aeronautics research
team, but we're looking, we look
a lot at how transportation
affects climate. So not just
climate, affecting
transportation, but also how it
affects it. And so we do a lot
of research into making planes
more efficient. So they use less
energy and generate less
emissions and contribute less to
warming in the future
Adam Curry: by making them coast
down. She did not answer the
question is not answered a
single question. This woman.
John C Dvorak: I think this is
the only show that has the
answer to that question.
Adam Curry: Yes. And we and we
got it straight from the
aviation community. All right.
No, it's not just air
transportation. Oh, no. Climate
change is impacting every kind
of transportation. So
Unknown: there are also
transportation issues along the
Mississippi River mentioned in
there, oh, four cargo shipments
of turbulence.
Adam Curry: Turbulence on the
Mississippi polls,
Unknown: how do industries who
have to plan ahead and
businesses that have to plan
ahead take this into account?
How prepared are
Adam Curry: we they do.
Unknown: So one of the things
that we work on is trying to
make sure people have access to
the information that can support
planning. So for river flow, we
actually launched a satellite in
December, called swamps, the
first global survey of water
running through rivers and
lakes. So we want to see how
much water is running through
those rivers, and how that
changes over time. And that kind
of information can be used to
better plan in the future.
Adam Curry: She just sold a
service but she didn't explain
why the transportation is
affected on the Mississippi
River, we still don't know
what's happening.
Unknown: And so NASA would share
that
sell it all of our data is
publicly available. And one of
the things we're working on now
is making it easier to use so
that you don't have to process
raw satellite data. We give you
an indicator that you can
interpret using your planning.
As an example, we have a tool
that's designed for farmers that
understand how much water their
fields are using.
Adam Curry: Hold on What's this
up tag is great farmers how much
field about ideas and indicators
Unknown: that you can interpret
and use in your planning. So as
an example, we have a tool
that's designed for farmers that
helps them understand how much
water their fields are losing,
so they can better plan they're
Adam Curry: losing, losing,
losing. All right, maybe the
next question, we'll get some
actual answers. How is climate
change really affecting us? And
can you explain why
Unknown: NASA also put out a
report in May that says climate
change is contributing to rise
in Lyme disease, possibly, more
mosquito borne illnesses as
well? Seasonal allergies are
getting worse. I know plenty of
people who are complaining about
their allergies these past few
weeks, my us because their
immune systems are shot from the
vaccine eyes were watering. But
how concerned do people need to
be?
So there are a lot of effects of
climate change on health. So in
terms of mosquitoes and other
diseases that are carried by
insects, malaria,
Adam Curry: let's see if she
explains it, what the climate
what
Unknown: climate change can do
is change where the geographic
extent of those species so you
know, mosquitoes need hot
conditions, they need water to
breed. And so what climate
change can can do is change that
extent. So that we see in places
where you have malaria, it could
shift more northern latitudes
are higher altitudes. But
there's other effects of climate
change. You mentioned pollen.
One of the things that we saw
here in the northeast of the US
recently was about wildfire
smoke. So there are wildfires
burning in Canada and the smoke
from that came into the US and
that's from climate change and
lead to air quality concerns all
across the northeastern
Adam Curry: fires in in Canada,
we're not from climate change
that fires. stuff doesn't self
ignite from climate change is so
hot, it's just it's supposed
igniting now, some of them were
set intentionally. Some of them
were the always fires burning.
It's a little bit more this
year, but Okay,
John C Dvorak: can I get off a
sidetrack, surely quick since it
was mentioned. Yes. I'm now of
the opinion that Lyme disease is
a created product from the germ
warfare center that was running
at a Plum Island look it up. And
is because that's where the Lyme
disease started floating around
that area because I tick escaped
from the lab. The labs take his
game theory Am I
Adam Curry: left New York right
near New York. Yeah. Well,
that's interesting.
John C Dvorak: You got to stop
doing this work.
Adam Curry: No, no man is the
ancient micro organisms that are
coming back to life. But some
Unknown: of it sounds like a
science fiction movie. In terms
of fear. There's something in
here about frozen Arctic soils,
unleashing ancient micro
organisms.
Adam Curry: Here, here's here's
the money shot baby
Unknown: hasn't happened yet.
So far north of the of the
world, the soil store a lot of
carbon and there's nothing and
underground. And so as that
thaws, scientists are expect
that you would see some more
emissions associated with it. So
that as you warm, you couldn't
trigger more emissions. And
that's what's driving the
warming that we're seeing now is
greenhouse gas emissions. So
things that affect those
emissions will affect my
Linda, what she's taught, you're
gonna continue to make this
publicly available.
All of our data is publicly
available, we continue to add to
it so we are able to observe
more about the planet and help
people better prepare for the
future. Well,
John C Dvorak: they should make
her publicly available
Adam Curry: for download for
crunching you know, the kids are
leaving for Austin today. So
they've been here for they're
almost two weeks. It's been
great visit and they're gonna
spend two days in Austin before
they fly back to Rotterdam. And
I've learned so I've learned so
much from them. And it kind of
ended written this this
millennial here this triggers me
she might even be a Gen Z. I'm
not sure. It feels like
something broke like Biden
nomics is what it would be
called but like the depression
is hitting four of their friends
have lost their jobs. We know
multiple millennials who have
all of a sudden they're losing
their jobs, be a bicycle
companies going broke and all
kinds of things just happening.
John C Dvorak: They're closing
the Anchor Steam beer company in
San Francisco,
Adam Curry: Disney World is
almost empty.
Unknown: who tend to go
Adam Curry: yes, time to go see
John C Dvorak: that. It's an
opportunity we've got
Adam Curry: we've got the
teamsters talking about
striking. But probably the one
that I'm most excited about is
the actors if
John C Dvorak: this got this
afternoon now
Adam Curry: this is where I'm
going to play the clip
Unknown: if this dispute just
goes ahead, it does go ahead if
the actors do go on strike it
will make look the writers
strike really look like a walk
in the park. Let me just give
you a few numbers to compare.
The Writers Guild of America has
about 11,000 members and then
going on strike was already
enough to shut down about 80% of
all productions in the film. In
TV industry the sag AFTRA union,
which represents mostly actors,
but not only they also represent
broadcast journalists, stunt
performers, DJs, well, they have
about 160,000 members. So
really, if they do end up going
on strike, we would see
essentially just a total
shutdown of the film and TV
industry, the only productions
that wouldn't be affected would
be those involving non unionized
actors. Let me give you a few
consequences. Just by using two
big examples we mentioned right
now the Barbie movie. We've also
got the Oppenheimer movie The
both very big movie is expected
to be released here on July 21.
In the United States. Well, we
all know that advertising and
promotion are very important
than last few days in the first
few days before and after a
release. And if the actors do go
on strike tonight at midnight,
which is the deadline Well, we
can expect actors to be banned
from taking part in press
junkets fan events premieres,
they will not be expected to go
to the San Diego Comic Con 10
days from now with where many
actors are supposed to appear.
And most surprisingly, perhaps
in this day and age is that many
of these actors will not be
allowed to advertise their own
movies on their own social media
cues. And looking farther ahead
of course, it could already
we've already seen some pretty
significant effects on the fall
TV season, which begins usually
about mid September here in the
US. Well, of course, if the
actors do end up going on
strike, we will be increasingly
chances to increasing chances
rather of looking at much
shorter TV season TV seasons,
with shorter with a smaller
number of episodes for the
upcoming TV season.
John C Dvorak: When I was a kid
that just season it was 35
episodes and some of the shows
ran an hour and a half.
Adam Curry: So I'm very shorter.
John C Dvorak: I'm very sorry
the show's run 10 episodes is
the season
Adam Curry: I'm really sorry for
the for the actors and you know,
but Hollywood and five M is
broken. I would recommend that
you cancel your Netflix cancel
your Disney plus cancel your
Hulu cancel all to cancel your
cable if you haven't already,
and support podcast podcast.
We're not striking. We don't
strike we bring quality
entertainment six hours a week.
That's half a season. By summer
count, it's Tuesday and yes
John C Dvorak: it's one week of
our shows as a half a season.
Most of the he's so called
series. Exactly.
Adam Curry: So you know is and
John C Dvorak: and by the way is
anybody think it might not be a
coincidence that they're doing
this? They're gonna let them
strike? Because the Barbie movie
which if you think about it is
probably a turkey. Well, it's a
hammer looks boring, and they're
already thinking is going to be
kind of like a dog. Yeah,
they're promoting the hell out
of it. I mean, the Tom Cruise
wanted to get his movie out on
the fourth, knowing that this
was going to come down and get
at least get some money.
Adam Curry: The other theaters
might close. Yeah, that the
theaters could actually close,
which is exactly what they want.
Because sound of freedom has to
be suppressed at all cost.
John C Dvorak: All right, wishes
we switch gears. Good one. Thank
you. I sound of freedom. So I
have one clip about it. I know.
Because the i but there's plenty
of clips and they're on. They're
mostly on tick tock, but they're
also a lot of them on Instagram.
This is the woman this is the
woman who it does lives of tick
tock. Yes. I've been reading
stories saying well, I don't
know it's a bunch of bull crap
is exaggerated, that they're
turning down to air
conditioning. And they're doing
this and AMC movie chain in
particular doesn't want to show
the movie. So there must because
they got a bunch of lefties
doing this review. Let's
Adam Curry: just review. This is
the movie based on based on a
true story. And there's actually
there's an operation Underground
Railroad is the is the
documentary you want to see
includes the reel I put in the
show notes includes the real
guy. And, and it's not. It's not
dramatize it's actual footage of
these rescues. And the
mainstream for whatever reason,
immediately. And I think it's I
mean, a lot of people will say
oh, yeah, because you know,
they're all Adrenochrome junkies
out maybe, but more likely is we
have to get people to see their
crap like the dumb Barbie movie,
and you can't be spending your
money on something that might be
counterproductive to everything
they are there about.
John C Dvorak: Especially when
the joke of it is I don't know
there was a South Park incident
about this go. I didn't know
this word. Mickey Mouse comes in
and beats the crap out of a
couple of guys who, especially
the guy who thought they had
this movie Disney owned this
movie three years ago, I think
right? And they said, then they
shelved it. That was a lot that
happens a lot with Yeah, it
does. But this shell the movie
that then becomes a hit is
embarrassing.
Adam Curry: Yes. Especially
since it was a bunch of Jesus
freaks who got it distributed.
Big problem.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So I think
the Jesus Rick's getting it
distributed probably had a lot
to do with trying to suppress
Rolling Stone all these other
guys. But so did did latest
news. You see, even though
nobody's got any witnesses, they
say no, none of this is going
on. There's fine. I'm always
being played left and right. So
the clip I have is a credible
source, as far as I'm concerned
is that woman that runs lives of
tick tock Chaya, whatever her
name is, she's believable. Yep,
credible, and everything in
between. And here's what
happened to her.
Unknown: Hi, Brian. stau. Last
night, I went to watch the sound
or freedom movie. And it's very
interesting, because CNN and
Rollingstone and Washington Post
and The Guardian, they were all
publishing articles about how
the movie is like related to Q
anon and conspiracy theories. So
that alo told me that this is
something that they don't want
you to watch, which is why you
should definitely go watch it.
Additionally, I also saw some
reporting of people who were
saying that weird things were
happening when they were trying
to go see it in theaters, like
the air conditioning wasn't
working, or their tickets were
canceled. And when I went a
couple minutes into the movie,
the fire alarm went off, the
entire building had to evacuate.
And about 1520 minutes later, it
was resolved. And we're able to
go back in and resume the movie.
But it was we were missing half
the audience now. But I did stay
until the end. And the movie is
excellent. It was educational,
and inspiring and eye opening. I
was not even aware of the extent
of the child sex trafficking
industry until I watched this.
The US is in the top three
countries. For destinations for
sale. Child sites, trafficking
by stem are number one. It's a
$150 billion a year industry.
And there are millions 10s of
millions of children who are
currently trapped in sex
slavery. So it is it's heart
wrenching. There are people in
the audience who were moved to
tears and really inspiring to
because at the end, I know for
myself, I left and I was like,
What can I do to help raise
awareness about this? What can I
do to help these children? So
I'm passing on the message. I
hope you do too. Go see the
movie, it's a must watch. Bring
your family, bring your friend,
tell everyone you know, go watch
down their freedom, something
has to be done about it
something really drastic.
Adam Curry: I'm going Saturday,
and it will be an AMC theater.
So it'd be fun to see what
happened.
John C Dvorak: You may have a
story to tell because everyone
knows the AMC Theaters do air
conditioning stories domain one
they've got to play so hot, so
unbearable.
Adam Curry: Now, I will say in
addition to that, that it was
106 degrees in Texas Air
Conditioning does
John C Dvorak: go it's gonna be
a problem anywhere else. Okay,
Adam Curry: I'm just saying it
does break down stuff does
happen. But the Grand Duke David
Foley has been sending me tick
tock after tick tock of these
reports. And it wasn't until you
had the the lives of tick tock
lady that said, Okay, this is a
good report. And I'm glad you
clip that I've just been seeing
it. Like yeah, I mean, you know
how these things go because oh,
this is wrong, but doing all the
stuff that are trying to
suppress it. But it really does
seem like it and especially if
you take into account the the
articles that we've been we've
been reading? Well, it's just a
bunch of Naja, who's
John C Dvorak: they is the
question in my mind. Who at the
Rolling Stone in The Guardian,
and all these places? What would
what's the bone they got to pick
what is who's behind this? Who's
pulling the strings.
Adam Curry: Now, it's just one
of those things that that The
New Yorker, well, actually the
New York Times was reasonably
fair, not a very long review,
but they just had kind of a you
know, it's not all that great.
It's a confluence of things and
then you can you know, how these
these news desk news rooms work
and how editors are and they're
dipshits and it's our
John C Dvorak: editor in chief,
they usually are
Adam Curry: all politically now
they're just all political,
political, political. Alright,
so now here's another story that
I've really we haven't focused
that much on and this is excess
deaths. And I've been following
in the UK, the UK, it's a real
story. It's mainstream. And of
course, it's yes,
John C Dvorak: they Yes, because
they are very open with their
numbers.
Adam Curry: And it's an it's
obviously it's not from the
vaccine, of course, it's from
COVID. Alright, it's COVID not
from the vaccine. It's from
COVID. Although interesting to
see store He's a pop up that
apparently Pfizer actually sent
a lot of doses to the EU that
were placebos about 30%. And,
and there's questions, there's
no answers. And, you know, so
the yellow has
John C Dvorak: been actually
documented. I've heard this
story too.
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's Let me
see who document handle if true?
Well, and the question is, why
is it a because they were still
testing stuff on people? Or is
it because
John C Dvorak: if you're gonna
do a real test, and you're not
going to do a, you know, the
normal test the way you're
supposed to, and you're going to
test it on the public itself,
you have to use placebos. But
But vaccinate your numbers back,
but then then you'd have to
admit you did that. And this is
like, a, like, a liability
issue.
Adam Curry: Well, no vaccines in
the US are tested with placebos.
This is, this is one of Bobby
The Kay's main, main gripes
about it. Not a single vaccine
needs to be tested in the United
States, in a placebo trial, it's
just that you don't need to do
it, so they don't do it. Now,
there's, I put a lot of articles
in in the show notes, which is
handy to have and a show
notes.com. But the one that
really got me is his article in
the Forex ground in the
Netherlands. And the forest
ground is very left wing, but
very intellectual newspaper. I
mean, if you don't read the
telegraph, if you read the full
of Scrubs,
John C Dvorak: but it sounds
like the flu, if I was just
listening, I'd say the name of
the newspapers the fools grunt.
Adam Curry: It's it's the folk
the newspaper of the people. The
fool looks good on people's
people's world. And so they talk
about a the government you know,
they did their annual budget of
course, you know, the government
will have to talk about the
Dutch government obviously the
cabinet fell and now Mark rota
is he's he's leaving politics
altogether, which is another
interesting thing. But the the
governor was really happy
because they actually were able
to make the budget kind of work
this year and the folks are
right it was good luck. And the
good luck was the the Ministry
of Education had a 490 million
euro lucky break see plus not
surplus but it was a break so
you know, there's never a
surplus anywhere but hey, you
know, we had an extra 490
million euros because less less
students will be attending
school and they also had 270
million euro lucky break because
there'll be less social security
payments because of and I quote
the fulcrum mysterious excess
deaths so the government is now
John C Dvorak: saying you're
reading right from it says
mysterious excess death to
Adam Curry: mystery owes
overstaffed at the Oak not
Corona Blythe on Howden. You
heard the mystery Oza
overstaffed of mystery? Oh, some
mysterious Yeah, overstaffed the
excess over death excess deaths.
This now now it's true. So this
is a real thing. And it's
happening everywhere. And of
course, it's from COVID is not
from the vaccine at all. But if
we listen to people who
guaranteed have been quadruple
if not quintuple boosted, you
gotta kind of question stuff. So
Unknown: the pandemic officially
ended earlier this year. And for
most people, life is back to
normal, but not for Dr. Michael
Osterholm, the expert at the
University of Minnesota became a
household name during every
stage of the pandemic.
Investigative reporter Ryan race
went to find out what he's doing
now that the biggest health
crisis of our lifetime is over.
Are you eating in a restaurant
now and able to relax?
Well, unfortunately I am. And I
say unfortunately, in that I
recently had COVID.
Three years into the pandemic
and Minnesota his most famous
infectious disease doctor
finally became a statistic in
March, Dr. Michael Osterholm,
not only got COVID for the first
time, but it's now suffering
from long COVID It's been
a difficult few months. So I I'm
feeling it I can't do many of
the athletic things I did
before.
Oh Osterholm is the longtime
director of the Center for
Infectious Disease Research and
Policy at the University of
Minnesota. He also worked for
the State Department of Health
and the CDC. But during the
pandemic, his projections and
downright scary predictions
earned him the nickname Dr.
Doom.
Adam Curry: So this guy has long
COVID He sounds horrible. He has
trouble breathing. He can't do
quote athletic exercises. He's a
on death's door, and you know
that he he's the guy that was
just Vax Bags, Bags, Bags, Bags,
Bags.
John C Dvorak: Did they ever
find out how many times he got
the jab?
Adam Curry: I don't have that
information. But now Now I'm by
the way,
John C Dvorak: this clip of the
day off advance on this guy.
This guy was one of the worst of
the of the bad actors out there,
he would
Adam Curry: have a million
millions of dead Dez millions,
millions and America's soon, but
now I'm thinking there's
something else up now. This is a
complete conspiracy theory of my
own. Oh, here we go. And I'm
going to play a clip from Time
magazine. Because what so what
if we have people dying left and
right, and we have to explain it
somehow. We can't I mean, it'd
be great to say, Hey, we got a
huge benefit in Social Security,
everybody, because people are
dead. So there's more for the
people who are living. That's
nothing
John C Dvorak: you should Oh,
get more tell you that.
Adam Curry: There's less pupils
per per teacher? What a what a
what a great benefit. So now, we
know that this is not because of
COVID. And the reason why is
because countries that did
nothing as recommended. No,
actually, let me I want to let's
just this is a short clip. So
I'll just play this, just so you
understand. It's Bobby The K on
waters
Unknown: and you think Fauci is
the devil, do you? Would you
prosecute him if you ever got to
the White House?
Adam Curry: I mean, if if there
were crimes that he committed,
of course, we would, you know,
the I would tell the attorney
general, a prosecutor might not
hold off.
Unknown: Do I think that he
committed crimes? I think he
caused a lot of injury. I think
that
Adam Curry: he particularly by
withholding early treatment from
Americans, you know, we racked
up the highest F count in the
world. We only have 4.2% of the
globe's population, but we had
16% of the COVID deaths in this
country. And that is, that was
from bad policy. There's
countries that did the opposite
of what we did that provided
ivermectin hydroxychloroquine
other early treatments to their
populations, and had one to
hundreds of our death rate. So
there are many, many things that
we did wrong in this country.
And, and some of those were, I
would say knowing knowingly at
some of the things that were
done by public health officials
that time that they knew that
they would be harmful to Now,
besides the fact that we know
from the actual people who
instruct ventilator operators
that the protocol was killing
people and was a known death
protocol. ivermectin
hydroxychloroquine were deemed
insane crazy horse pace can't
push it no good because it by by
regulation I don't wanna say by
law but by regulation despite
John C Dvorak: them by edict
Yes, despite the fact that
ivermectin as a generalized a
product which was antiviral anti
worm Yeah. Anti parasite it had
in won a Nobel Prize and as
required to be in all the
medical packs at the UN gives
out for you know, third world
countries one of the greatest
products in recent histories you
know, as a generalized cool
thing. It's astonishing to me
that they pulled this off
Adam Curry: so in in addition to
that, by edict as you said, or
by regulation, you cannot
mandate on your emergency use
authorization of vaccine if
there are treatments so that's
why it had to be demonized
because this is this is not a
stretch at this point to believe
John C Dvorak: this as is
obvious. Cancer and we've
discussed this a million times
Adam Curry: cancer is exploding
everywhere in the world. Funny
enough if you look in the United
States in the Lancaster
Pennsylvania area where the
Dutch arm with Amish live, who
have no vaccine Certainly not
COVID No one died one guy this
there's word that maybe five
died but there's really only one
good one and we're not sure that
that one guy acts right
John C Dvorak: if the one guy
they still get those sketchy
Adam Curry: now in in the UK,
just I'm just beginning to get
to this board. I think it might
be going on here in the UK. They
had this huge scandal scandal I
tell you, because apparently,
some BBC presenter was buying
naked pictures from a 17 year
old boy.
John C Dvorak: Identify the guy
finally.
Adam Curry: Yes, they identified
him and his his wife actually
identified him and said he's in
the hospital for severe mental
issues pay no attention. But
what is going on simultaneously?
He's the COVID inquiry. This is
not headline news in the UK,
where it's coming out now. The
lockdowns were wrong, everything
was wrong. The numbers were
wrong. They are pretty
transparent in the UK with the
numbers, but what do they do
just put some gay thing Oh, gay
boy something put it on the for
everyone's talking about that.
Even though this news was known
for months, it's not like new
news. Okay, so if you have all
this going on, and we have
people dying, and idiot
podcasters are going to start
asking questions like what could
be going on here?
John C Dvorak: And by the way,
the term turbo cancer has
cropped up
Adam Curry: how I hadn't even
heard that turbo turbo can turbo
cancer. Well enter what I think
is the perfect solution. It will
identify demons who are
responsible for cancer and for
death and listen to this is a
really shit report from Time
magazine, but okay, their print
publication but they have a
video with a guy just reading
you know, and you can hear him
swallowing and moist and it's
horrible.
John C Dvorak: I'm sorry. But
thanks for the setup. I think
Adam Curry: this is what's going
to be used as an excuse and
we've been tracking it and it's
been cropping up more and more
in the past couple of weeks.
Unknown: If you're like 97% of
Americans, including newborns,
your blood is contaminated with
a P F A S for pee fast. That's
very bad news.
Adam Curry: So I think and
you'll hear this in a moment
they are going to blame turbo
cancer excess deaths on pee fast
and they're going to and this
will be a huge bonanza for
lawyers.
John C Dvorak: Oh this this is
also good has to be part of this
forever chemicals
Adam Curry: that's what this is
P fast is the Forever cat Okay,
here we go. Here we go.
Unknown: First developed in the
1940s P fast which stands for
per and poly fluoro alkyl
substances have grown into a
class of more than 12,000
chemicals used in 1000s of
products from food packaging to
clothing, shoes, firefighting,
foam, cosmetics, contact lenses,
wall paint, toilet paper,
cookware, and even feminine
hygiene products.
Adam Curry: There's no There's
no escaping no one can escape
these forever chemicals. No one
can escape them because they're
everywhere. Oil,
Unknown: oceans, lakes streams
and the rain itself Ray mold
contaminated with pee fast. The
exposure to certain levels of
the chemicals have been linked
by the Environmental Protection
Agency to a long list of health
effects.
Adam Curry: Okay, now let's
evaluate these health effects.
Let's see if there's any slight
overlap with I don't know
vaccine adverse events,
Unknown: including decreased
fertility, high blood pressure
and pregnant people. increased
risk of certain cancers,
developmental delays and low
birth weight and children
hormonal disruption, high
cholesterol reduce the
effectiveness of the immune
system and more.
Adam Curry: sounds the same to
me.
Unknown: The natural impulse to
news like this is to say that
somebody should pay for felling
the planet found these
Adam Curry: let's go get him
let's let's let's point to a
villain who
Unknown: badly now a number of
somebodies are pain indeed. In
early June 2023 du Pont and its
spin offs, shim wars and cortiva
leading PFS manufacturers by
Adam Curry: the way, this is a
very typical thing to do and
they do it in the medical
industry that's what Pfizer does
it do it in the chemical
industry. The DuPont will be
fine if they're gonna have these
little entities that are the
front companies they get sued
out of existence. And DuPont
will be fine. That's why they
have the so called spin offs.
Yeah, it's a spin offs. Yeah,
let's get those guys
Unknown: in early June 2023 du
Pont and it's spin offs shim
Moore's and cortiva. Leading PFS
manufacturers got out from under
a little bit of the civil
litigation that has been brought
against them reaching a $1.185
billion settlement with 300
local water system Tim was that
had sued the company for the
costs of cleaning and filtering
their wells and aquifers. Three
weeks later, three M, another
major P fast maker reached a
much larger $10.3 million
settlement with 300 different
water providers. But those
agreements cover only a tiny
fraction of the 15,000 lawsuits
brought against those four
companies. And a handful of
others smaller pee fast makers
filed by state attorneys,
general water systems and
individual plaintiffs.
Adam Curry: So it's a 17 minute
video that I wouldn't want
anyone to have to sit through.
But this is a such a multiple
Whammy, because we're getting
huge lawsuits, huge payoffs. And
slaves, you'll be able to get a
little something, you know, you
could get 10 bucks and some
class action lawsuit. But also,
they have you know, there's now
these I think we played on the
last show, there's ways to fix
the water. So they're going to
do a complete takeover of your
water. By God knows who doing
God knows what. And I think this
this is the plan. The plan is,
look, I remember look, I
remember, look, Teflon growing
up in the Netherlands Oh, no
Teflon is gonna kill you. You're
gonna die. Yeah,
John C Dvorak: that was that was
here too, by the way, of course.
Adam Curry: But I grew up in
Holland, not here. And Teflon.
Teflon was always going to kill
us hasn't happened. I'm still
here. While I don't doubt that
there's harmful chemicals, this
is too vast. They're just
throwing everything into one big
bucket and saying it's all pee
fast. It's all and we have a
handy little reminder forever
chemicals. It's in the rain. You
someone must pay.
John C Dvorak: We haven't heard
gets in the rain.
Adam Curry: Climate change? I
don't know. But this I think
this is what they're going to
blame everything on. You have a
good idea. I mean,
John C Dvorak: granted, I'm not
going to argue that it's not
going to be what they're going
to try to do. Yeah, it does does
definitely take the focus off
the COVID thing which is
Unknown: slowly really an issue.
John C Dvorak: Well, it's an
issue that is going to it's
going to take care of itself.
Adam Curry: Well, let me just
remind you from the last show
this this water treatment, we
because of course we have
problem reaction solution.
Unknown: There's a disturbing
new study out today about the
nation's drinking water.
Researchers found that nearly
half of the tap water in this
country contains potentially
harmful compounds usually known
as forever chemicals. They're
linked to a wide range of health
problems including cancer, high
blood pressure and fertility
issues. CBS is marching through
Notre
Adam Curry: Dame surgery of
course, of course it's a script.
John C Dvorak: What are those
three because those are the
three there everyone's gonna
repeat fertility
Adam Curry: issues, high blood
listlessness, and again,
Unknown: of course, they're
linked to a wide range of health
problems including cancer, high
blood pressure and fertility,
cancer,
Adam Curry: high blood pressure
and fertility. This person's
Unknown: CVS is Mark Strassman
takes it in your blood in depth
John C Dvorak: forgot about the
fact that the COVID vaccine
would it would lead to didn't do
it correctly if we go and go
right to your nuts new
technology that yeah, it was
also given women weird periods
like months on end Yes, and
Adam Curry: clots in your blood
and all kinds of horrible
things. Yes, horrible. Now
listen to this dash all
forgotten.
Unknown: That could make so
called Forever chemicals
disappear.
Nasty cargo 10,000 gallons of
landfill water laced with pee
fast, a known carcinogen that
nothing could get rid of. Until
now
we're concentrating the
Annihilator system to treat it.
Treat PFS blast them out of
existence. These so called
Forever chemicals are manmade
used in Teflon firefighting
foam, even facial makeup
Adam Curry: lines back Teflon.
Yeah, Teflon. It's Teflon. The
big one, that firefighting foam
is the real one. This is the one
that's been going on for quite a
while they have had many
lawsuits of firefighters,
particularly military who use
the foam for practicing for
runway incursions, stuff like
that, that that has been
successfully litigated over and
over and over again and people
have this is before COVID Even
the firefighting foam is the one
in there that I know is probably
true
Unknown: wherever chemicals are
manmade, used in Teflon,
firefighting foam, even facial
makeup and previously
indestructible.
This is where the PDFs go.
That's correct.
Last year we showed you
Battelle, a nonprofit research
institute doing this Small Scale
field test distilling water into
pee fast concentrate
yeah
John C Dvorak: yeah what makes
it indestructible indestructible
it's like it's indestructible
but they can burn it but it's
indestructible they
Adam Curry: can blow it make any
lasting they get blasted Well
the point is you need to hire
this company to blow Yeah,
that's
John C Dvorak: right we played
this last show and it's a net we
decided it was a native ad.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: I want to finish it
Are you good? I'm good.
John C Dvorak: I think you're
onto something. Yeah, gotta
blame everything Yeah, that's
where you got to do something
because this COVID thing is it's
like getting in you'd like you
mentioned there's starting to
investigate now and there was
some investigation going on in
Washington that had something to
do with this and it was just
taken nobody was gonna play it
on the the news stations that
get a clip I'm not sure I've got
Adam Curry: I've got people
texting me emailing me say oh,
yeah, this this. This blasting
the water is big. It's in order.
They're talking about an RF come
in our community in our county.
It's a moneymaker a huge
moneymaker to everybody scores.
Everybody's scores, except us
stupid.
John C Dvorak: We're there's
gotta be some filtering
technology that works on this
stuff. Yeah,
Adam Curry: I'm, I'm happy I
have my own well.
John C Dvorak: Now why? Well,
well, well, while
Adam Curry: I'm on a roll. What
was billed as our stupid,
idiotic vice president was
actually hugely eye opening. By
really enjoyed what Vice
President Kamala Harris had to
say about AI. You saw this clip
going around? I have
John C Dvorak: the clip. I
haven't had a short clip it a
long clip. I have
Adam Curry: minus 40 seconds.
How long is yours?
John C Dvorak: Pamela Camela on
tread
Adam Curry: wears, oh, AI? Let
me see yours is yours is 154.
We're playing yours. Nice. And I
John C Dvorak: think it's more
Wait, wait. Mais your clips same
clip, you said mine is more in
context, as she goes on and
continues to try to explain
things.
Adam Curry: I like it, I want to
hear it. I'm excited. I'm
jacked.
John C Dvorak: I'm surprised.
Unknown: And I think the first
part of this issue that should
be articulated is AI is kind of
a fancy thing. It's first of all
two letters. It means artificial
intelligence. But ultimately
what it is, is it's about
machine learning. And so the
machine is taught. And part of
the issue here is what
information is going into the
machine.
Adam Curry: Okay, I'm gonna stop
right there. And then we'll
continue this. So she gives away
the entire plan right here. They
know that AI is nothing more
than some skip logic. But they
also know that it's being
positioned as, and there's
movies coming out like into the
light and we're all going to die
in the AI is going to eat us and
eat the world. Who we I say, but
they know that AI will be
positioned as truth. It's
already being positioned as
truth. AI is scanning our
podcast right now to tell
advertisers not to advertise on
it, which of course, the AI is
too dumb to know that we don't
take advertising. But they want
everything to come it'll be
computer says. And so no matter
what they want to make sure that
there's no incorrect information
being fed into the AI. That's
what this is about. That's why
they want an agency to regulate
it. We want to make sure that
the AI doesn't suck up any of
that no agenda talk, or meld
Maga talk, or, or even
libertarian talk or Bitcoin talk
I don't know that they want.
John C Dvorak: She actually what
you're saying is what she's
gonna say
Unknown: that will then
determine. And we can predict
them if we think about what
machine what information is
going in, what then will be
produced in terms of decisions
and opinions that may be made
through that process. So to
reduce it down to its most
simple point. This is part of
the issue that we have here is
thinking about what is going
into a decision and then whether
that decision is actually
legitimate and reflective of the
needs and the life experiences
of all people. And therefore a
big part of what we will also
discuss then is the transparency
in terms of the processes
through which AI Ashley is
having an impact on decisions?
Do we understand the technology?
Do we know what is going into
the decisions that are being
made? So this is very
Adam Curry: multifaceted. So
when she says do we know she
means do we control
Unknown: issue and topic and we
also know that that this is
technology that is rapidly
developing. And so part of the
common purpose that we have is a
sense of urgency that we get in
front of this issue in terms of
understanding the implications,
so that we can work as a
community of folks, private
sector, public sector,
nonprofits, government, to do
what is in the best interest of
the health and safety and well
being of the people of our
country. And ultimately, that's
how I think about this.
Adam Curry: So the UK always
ahead, always a step ahead with
letting us know about the excess
death as an all that the and
this is from reclaim the net,
which I think they're pretty
good organization. headline, new
UK law, which is the online
safety bill. Wood proposals will
legally curb algorithms that
promote Andrew Tate. This is an
extreme example. But that's the
whole point. The AI cannot point
13 year old boys towards a guy
like Andrew Tate.
John C Dvorak: This is this is
this says that
Adam Curry: yes, literally this
is this is the whole story is
about is that what the law? The
law doesn't say that No, no,
this is interpretation of the
law.
John C Dvorak: Did you say that?
Or is it say that in the Arctic
and the article? Okay.
Adam Curry: Yes, the UK is boil.
John C Dvorak: I want to get
your take on these. I have two
more clips on AI that need to be
discussed. Yes, let's do it.
One, we're doing the same thing
that you just described. This is
the AI Rando thought Schumer
bill.
Unknown: So I probably more
concerned about China's ability
to steal our property than what
they're going to innovate
themselves
with the private sector, and
make sure to make sure that we
innovate way ahead of everybody
else. But at the same time that
there are safeguards so that
innovation doesn't get out of
control or be used for negative
purposes, is very, very real as
well. It's gonna be one of the
hardest tasks that Congress has
ever faced. But
so Schumer has been pushing a
bill that he says does have
bipartisan support, but from the
senators that we spoke with, we
asked about this bill and the
likelihood of it passing during
this Congress, they said that
they are very, not familiar with
this specific bill. But they say
they do have an open mind. They
say they just need to learn more
about how legislation could
actually move as well as just
learn more about the overall
role that artificial
intelligence actually plays in
our nation right now.
Adam Curry: So let's just for no
agenda purposes, let's whenever
they say artificial
intelligence, let's call it an
algorithm, which is called an
algo. Have you noticed that tic
tock is still not being kicked
out of America yet? Have you
noticed that? Do you think it
could have anything to do with
the fact that that this company
is going there's a lot of money
flowing right now, Washington,
DC, and tic TOCs algorithms are
doing a lot of good for a lot of
people in DC, particularly the
trans mountain crowd?
John C Dvorak: I'm going to
argue that I do want to play one
more clip, though, get this one
out of the Senator and Rubio
talking about the fact is what's
happening, there seems to be a
panic in the Senate. Yes. And
that's why that's interesting
that Schumer's got some bill
that nobody's read, but it's
already been passed, kind of.
However, that works. Just go,
just the last one. And we can
you can go from there.
Unknown: I think one of the
things we're not talking about
is how disruptive it will be
economically AI will do to
higher educated workers in some
fields, what globalization did
to workers in American
factories, it's going to put
some people out of work, it'll
create new jobs, but it's going
to eliminate some jobs,
you know, anything that's
harvesting massive amounts of
data, you can always potentially
use the data incorrectly. The AI
does operate off a set or set of
patterns and the patterns can be
wrong. Right. So what is the
what's the validation of AI
related content? There's
tremendous intellectual property
concerns. Yeah, I
Adam Curry: think that that's
where the that's why they're
running around. It's called the
intellectual property. There's a
lot of money in intellectual
property. And you already pegged
this right off the bat like all
these lawsuits are definitely
happening. And we're not just
talking about song early
John C Dvorak: losses seem to be
trivial and somewhat Nothing to
see here ish.
Adam Curry: Drone dork will
gives us an update from the
frontlines boots on the ground
report as JCD predicted the push
back to generative AI is here.
As previously discussed, I'm
with a big blue company. They've
recently told us that we are not
to use third party generative AI
tools for work as they may
infringe on IP. Just use our
generative AI. It probably needs
training anyway. I feel like
anyone with the brain could have
seen this coming but AI sure is
bright and shiny. Their entire
pod Test companies now. Oh, is
that does it make it a podcast
with AI?
John C Dvorak: I love to hear an
AI podcast.
Adam Curry: This shit. They're
horrible. Sure.
I mean, yeah. Do we use
artificial intelligence for our
transcript? Sure. Then it still
spells your name JH en si,
John C Dvorak: you know, yeah.
And John says the student to be
able to learn anything else. Oh,
Adam Curry: and I keep telling
it that it's that's not right.
But it won't listen to me. So
these are just algos. It's not
spectacular. In fact, it's so
crap that no wonder they want to
control it. It'll be a $2.2
million spread by federal
government teaching kids how to
build AI with critical theory
doesn't
John C Dvorak: again where they
go theory you mean that Marxist
approach to learning? Yep. No,
wait, wait, we read that whole
thing. Again, we're what
Adam Curry: the National Science
Foundation's Division of
Research on Learning in formal
and informal settings awarded
two and a half million dollars
to Oakland, California based
nonprofit, why our media, a
media technology and music
training center and platform for
emerging bipoc content creators
who are using their voices to
change the world to teach
underrepresented and undeserved
youth how to integrate critical
theory with artificial
intelligence technologies.
John C Dvorak: So in Oakland,
they're teaching critical race
theory, which is what they're
talking about here. Yep,
Critical Theory critical race
are just part of it. But to
break our Kusa crap out of
school of Frankfurt. Yes. Back
in the 60s bull crap. Yes. They
brought it back. That's the
whole basis of the Maoist stuff
that we talked about on this
show all the time. So our
government is now funding this.
Unknown: Yes. Correct. Believe
It's Not unbelievable. It's
completely unbelievable. It's
completely believable.
Adam Curry: Yes. Sadly. There's
another thing, just just talking
about algorithms, you know how
we're feeding stuff. There are
now 400 airports in the US where
the TSA is using facial
recognition and support
supposedly, you're allowed to
opt out of it, but no one is
John C Dvorak: to follow. I
don't remember getting the form
that I can opt out. And I
wouldn't know Well, no. Let's
see a guy comes in that facial
recognition. The thing on the
screen says, Oh, he's opted out.
We can't tell you who it is. No,
no. Yes. The first guy draw my
attention to
Adam Curry: Apparently you're
allowed to say hey, I don't want
here on his way to catch a
flight. Senator Jeff. Merkley
Democrat of Oregon, was asked to
have his photo taken by facial
recognition machine at airport
security. TSA has been testing
use of facial recognition
software to verify travelers
identification at some airports
is now 400. If you decline, a
TSA agent is supposed to verify
your identification as has been
done at airport security for
years. When Merkley said no to
the face scan at Washington's
Reagan, Reagan National Airport,
to Reagan things Reaganism
Reagan, Reagan, Reagan, he was
told it would cause a
significant delay. It's time to
opt out of this crap.
John C Dvorak: I love the
bureaucrats. And it's really
Unknown: it's really, really,
really, really crazy,
John C Dvorak: significant
delay. Senators should have
said, well, how many hours do
you think it will delay? You
know, how many significant
delay?
Adam Curry: So, yeah, so they're
pushing us towards this, but it
will all be. I mean, everything
will just be running on an AI.
And we will, we'll start we'll
be running
John C Dvorak: poorly.
Adam Curry: It'll be running
extremely poorly.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that's what
it does. And that's what these
all these technologies tend to
do. They tend to if you let
them, if you let them take over,
they do a shitty job. They don't
do a very good job. They're not
they don't follow up, because
none of its really and they make
mistakes left and right with
false positives and false
negatives. It's just disastrous
in that regard. And right on
cue, but it's cheap, but it's
cheap. It's like we're the
Chinese now. Yes, yes, price
Adam Curry: right on cue. Elon
Musk comes out with x AIXX.
John C Dvorak: Ai like X. Yeah.
x.ai loves the letter X. Today
Adam Curry: we announced the
formation of x ai. The goal of X
AI is to understand the true
nature of the universe. You can
meet the team ask us questions
during the Twitter spaces chat
out tomorrow, man, I think
Correct? Correct. Correct.
John C Dvorak: Somebody spotted
that early on. So it's not a
female in the group?
Adam Curry: Well, our team is
led by Elon Musk CEO of Tesla
SpaceX. We we have previously
worked at Deep Mind open AI
Google research Microsoft
Research Tesla University of
Toronto. batch normalization
atom optimizer layer
normalization and because of
John C Dvorak: the we've heard
them all.
Adam Curry: And then there's
another one out there anthropic,
an open AI rival. Well this is a
piece of junk anthropic
John C Dvorak: love the name it
is
Adam Curry: they have a chat bot
Claude. So
John C Dvorak: joining with
Barbie came up with with the Neo
Elijah,
Adam Curry: Neo Eliza. Oh, I
like that. So they've raised
John C Dvorak: started up
Adam Curry: $750 million valued
at 4.1 billion. And literally, I
asked a question like, What are
the two things Adam curry is
most known for? And it just
spits back some Wikipedia crap.
Yes, it does. And even when I
said you know, are you
underplaying his role in
podcasting? Yes, he was
instrumental in making
podcasting popular. Okay, so
this is bullshit they
John C Dvorak: didn't give you
credit for podcasting right off
the bat. No, no,
Adam Curry: no, no, no, no you
two things. I was one of the
first gray hair I would know as
one of the first celebrities to
have a blog that's literally in
my wiki pedia which I'm not
allowed to change as you know.
Unknown: So anyway, Elon is
under attack because you will
maybe go change it. Yeah,
please.
John C Dvorak: And we got time.
Adam Curry: Elon is under attack
for
John C Dvorak: he's been under
he's under attack. Now they're,
they're playing up this bull
crap cage match. It's never
going to happen. Oh, Zuckerberg.
So dummies actually gotten a
bunch of trainers. And you see
now he's buffed. He's kind of
like Eli's not going to do this
is not an idiot
Unknown: No, he's not
John C Dvorak: this is a scam
it's just it's just distraction
Adam Curry: of crap stupid. Now
that what's happening is the
mainstream was trying to
discredit Twitter. It's tanking
it's no good because Metis
threads has hit 100 million
users everyone's using threads.
Threads is where we all need to
go promotion is a great
promotion and their bio
John C Dvorak: shock they just
posted one thing on there and
they got kicked off immediately
offer threads yeah for posting
facts as she puts it I posted
some facts I got kicked off
Adam Curry: very bad idea very
very bad idea. So anyway, I
think it feels like things are
coming to a head you know we got
the Europe coming with a digital
Euro the people are no longer at
people I got no money they're
gonna have to give people money
again that hat that Biden omics
yeah one pocket
John C Dvorak: made Oh call a
bite inflation is it has a
better ring to it some people
I've never heard bite inflation
Adam Curry: I know I've seen it
I've seen it posted they're not
going to call it that and
mainstream Hello but you know
the the wasn't the six major
banks rode off over $5 billion
and mainly credit card debt
young women everywhere now are
on the pay pig Have you heard of
this? Oh don't pay pig pig pig
is it now there's there's not
like Unfortunately there's no
pay pig website. Well there are
but a pay pig is a guy who pays
I think as far as I know mainly
attractive young women young
women young women to say stuff
about them in their social media
and if and some of them want
just to be humiliated some of
them even give give their
password like here just take any
money you want. And yes, yes.
John C Dvorak: Oh, this is
bogus.
Adam Curry: No, no. Hey, I've
been hanging out with the kids
though Yeah, pay pig Are they
involved with pay pig there have
been offers. I can tell you what
one of the offers was? Oh, yeah.
I will not say which child
John C Dvorak: I don't care. You
don't care who the child is $300
Adam Curry: to watch a guy drink
his own urine
John C Dvorak: Wait a minute. So
let me get this let me let me
kind of focus this so guy wants
to drink urine his own his own
Okay, well yeah, it could be you
know, it could be lemon kool aid
for all we know so we know but I
think the whole thing was he
have to pee it in there to show
for now. Yes. Yeah, I think that
was part of this guy is going to
go on camera.
Unknown: Yes. As the kids would
call it cam Yes. ON CAM Yes.
John C Dvorak: ON CAM and pee
into a jar and then drink it.
While being watched by one of
the kids and the kids are gonna
get 300 bucks to do this front
Adam Curry: now they'll he'll
pay him 300 up front
Unknown: while they take it that
didn't
Adam Curry: say they didn't but
that's not the point that's not
the point
John C Dvorak: he was like easy
money to me like I'm available
Adam Curry: Yeah, but so that's
a pay pig that's a payment who's
the
John C Dvorak: pig? That dumb
shit given the girls 300 bucks
that Washington P
Unknown: yes
John C Dvorak: that's the pay
pig so they call pay pigs
Adam Curry: Yes. I actually
thought I had a clip Hold on a
second.
John C Dvorak: I never heard of
anything so stupid a pig people
that bored with their dad that
much time on their hands?
Adam Curry: No it's any money
it's a part of what's happening
in the world by the way you're
on tick tock you're Mr. Tick
tock Here we go. I'll play this
this clip his his woman on tick
tock
Unknown: Yes, there are men out
there who want to give you money
in return for absolutely
nothing. There's nothing wrong
in this basically they're called
Pay pigs now pay pigs are pretty
common. You can find them on the
internet there are specific
websites for this. But a lot of
that comes through traffic on
social media and essentially
fans they fall in love with the
person and they send them money
as a thank you for creating
content. However, pay pigs don't
stick around for long they
usually demand a lot of
attention from you because they
feel that they own you all have
kind of power over you because
they've paid you or they're
buying new gifts. Now you'll
find a lot of people on Tik Tok
for example actually have pay
pigs and the pigs often feel
used you know because well
they're not getting anything in
return so Alright, so
Adam Curry: that's I mean this
this is clip after clip after
clip of the pay pigs here's
another one.
Unknown: So basically everyone's
asking me for tutorial assumes
and pay pigs and the truth is I
don't find them they find me
after they
Adam Curry: find they find you
so you post off on on tick tock
and then the pay pigs contact
you send you money but to do
something
John C Dvorak: you post what on
tick tock to get contacted just
yourself. I am looking to look
at some funny things.
Adam Curry: Just be yourself.
Just be be a cute young woman.
I'm here.
John C Dvorak: Here's what I'm
going to the cute young woman. I
am so annoyed by them. Massive
number I think they're teens but
I've seen women obviously in
their 20s they they bend over
they turn on the cam they stand
there in front of the cam Yeah.
And then they some music comes
on and she they their lip sync
it or they whatever they do.
They do some stupid dance
strolling around and they move
their arms and they move their
hands and they go back and
forth. It was like a kind of a
lousy version of a John Travolta
dance ad libbed, and they diddle
around on the screen and dance
and dance and dance. And then
they turn off the video. What is
the point of the stupid chicks
Adam Curry: dancing rolling for
pay pigs?
John C Dvorak: That's gotta be
it. Yes, that explains it all
now. I've been wondering I ever
once I'm going through there's
some dumb dumb girl I'll put it
that way because it kind of cute
maybe usually over made up and
drink wearing a nice dress and
then they do some stupid
spasmodic dance that is like
what is this? And then I have to
I just by the time I'm grossed
out by the lousy dancing, it
goes on to the next clip, but
that could be it. I could
explain it all. John,
Adam Curry: I'm really a little
concerned about your media
consumption.
John C Dvorak: Well, it does
result in a lot of good clips
and fat.
Unknown: Oh, no, here we go. Now
that
you brought it up, talk
John C Dvorak: Okay, let's start
with I found this to be a little
is a bunch. Here's a dietician a
couple of dietitians talking
about the current state of
eating
Unknown: a day thing breakfast,
lunch, and dinner is from
colonialism in white supremacy.
As if we didn't have enough good
reasons to stop letting external
cues tell us how to feed
ourselves and start listening to
our internal cues. Here's
another one that I don't know
about you but I hate when crusty
old white men tell me what to do
with my life. Or especially tell
me what to do with my body. So
eat what you want when you want
there are no rules start
listening to what your body is
telling you.
Adam Curry: This by the way, I
think is a pay pig troll. You
crusty old man now, the crusty
old man goes like Oh, I'm gonna
show you. I'm going to show you
I want to pay you to tell him to
do let me tell you what to eat.
John. It's a sick, broken world,
my friend. This is real. It has
John C Dvorak: to do this.
Social media which is your area,
Adam Curry: all of it has to do
with social media all of it.
Bah.
John C Dvorak: Okay, here's,
here's here's another thing you
run into.
Adam Curry: I'm going to
interject some things as you go
through these tick tock clips.
John C Dvorak: Okay, well as you
as you see I have more than one
I have noticed this Yes. Yeah,
it was a problem. Yeah. Okay,
let's go to this get done this
one of those guys. And this is
very common. There's a there's a
bunch of looks. Besides the
idiotic Danzig I've always
complaint I just
Adam Curry: play well now you
know one other thing. least we
know we figured that one out.
That's paid pig trolling.
John C Dvorak: There's this
looks that millennials have with
Adam Curry: the eye with the
eyes drawn and a point on the
side like this dad
John C Dvorak: and there's a
kind of a smirk, a lot of smirk
and kind of like to wear my lips
are sticking out. I'm smirking
at you and you are
Adam Curry: such a cultural
observant.
John C Dvorak: And then my
eyebrows are going up in the
middle the to, you know, so they
kind of pointing up and making a
couple of vertical lines.
They're yellow. Yep. And that
kind of like I'm talking like
out of out of the sight of my
mouth. Okay, well, here's a guy
that's got every one of these
looks and he's a he's a gender a
gender Perry. He's practicing
gender parenting.
Unknown: If you're doing gender
neutral parenting, gender
creative parenting, what do you
do when your kid is old enough
to ask, Hey, am I a boy or girl?
You and me already talked about
this in the comments. But I
thought it might make an
interesting video. Because
there's probably a lot of people
with this question. You don't
even need to be doing this
parenting method to want to have
sort of a more open minded way
to answer that kind of a
question from your kid. And my
answer here is actually pretty
simple. I would just turn it
back into a question. It's windy
out here. I might say well, how
do you feel? You feel like a boy
or girl or maybe something else?
How do you think we might figure
that out? Together? Are you
asking about how do you look on
the outside or you asked me
about how you feel on the
inside? Maybe we should go read
a book about this together. I
have some ideas you want to go
sit down and take a look at I
would share how I know my gender
identity. It's a question that
gives you an opportunity to have
a conversation and that's a
beautiful thing.
Adam Curry: When I was a kid, my
mom told me the story when she
was still alive. We were out in
the garden. I was about six
years old. She was ready for me
to ask the big question. And
we're gardening. And I say Mom,
yes, Adam. Mom, why is it that
pirates have knives in their
mouth? between their teeth? What
happened between then and now
that we're asking, am I a boy or
a girl? Is this really
happening? Is this really
happening?
John C Dvorak: It is when you're
gender affirming parenting. When
you have a freaky dad like this
dude. It probably is happening
because they're encouraging it.
It is when all I know is his
creepy. This guy's creepy. He's
glib. He's got all those looks.
I was bitching about
Adam Curry: do you think he
actually has a kid?
John C Dvorak: He's got to?
Well, that's the there's the
old.
Adam Curry: I'd like to point
out that the New York Post cites
a a study. It was a poll
actually was a poll. So not a
study a poll of Brown University
students. Brown University, I
would say rather elite school
now.
Unknown: Yep. elite school, Ivy
League.
Adam Curry: 38% of students
identified as either homosexual,
bisexual, queer, asexual
pansexual questioning or other
30x percent.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, but that's
Brown. I think that's always
been the case there. But the
point is, right, it's out of the
way.
Adam Curry: The point is. The
point is, this is contained and
for as the same way it's, it's
cool, you know, it's like it's
the thing to say so you're part
of it and you queer was queer.
Now everybody's clear.
John C Dvorak: Now, I'm not
gonna argue that debt, but
that's kind of a disgusting now,
Adam Curry: along with these
clips, I'm gonna read this email
to you. This is unfortunate, not
a great email from our parents
whose son stepson has, as you
know, he he left the family and
then he kind of came back for a
moment but then things went
south again, this is the sissy
Hypno porn steps on if you
remember, now, he got sucked
into the sissy Hypno porn. You
know the specification
pornography.
John C Dvorak: Yes. Yes, I do.
Remember I don't remember the
details, though. Well,
Adam Curry: it's been a month
since our son has talked to us.
I'm sure he's experiencing shame
and Going back to his sissy
Hypno porn life. Tick tock, I'm
telling you is designated to pit
children against parents. It
doesn't work when the parents
drink the Kool Aid. But just
like in the Cultural Revolution,
parents who denied the reality
of the Great Leap formalism
maintained relationships with
their kids, I'm glad you
enlightened me to the mouse
connection to all this. I did a
deep dive on the Great Leap
Forward and cultural revolution.
But this is something called
kids are going no contact. No
Contact is what it's called. And
they're being encouraged Here's
the article more kids are going
no content and cutting off their
parents. So these ghouls who are
are sucking children insert
young men especially in this
case, into the specification
porn making them believe they're
trans and subsequently setting
up only fans for them so they
can feel love, just like just
like the the Rakowski sister.
It's mental. It's completely
meant I'm just going to call it
what it is. But now we're into
domestic abuse. I severe crime,
British parents can be
prosecuted by refusing to pay
for transgender treatments, even
if your spouse and misgendering
your child can get your child
taken away from you.
You got very quiet.
John C Dvorak: It's astonishing
what this stuff and that is not
that debt little last bit has
gotten as cropped up in Canada.
And it's cropped up here.
Adam Curry: And I have an email
to share. Anonymous. I am a c a
s a court appointed special
advocate for foster children in
a red state. There are a lot of
Indiana listeners and people in
other deep red states who may
listen to your show feel
protected against transgender
ideology impacting them,
especially when we've been told
it's so political. after all. We
live in red states with
conservative politicians so this
can only happen to parents in
Canada or California. In 2020. I
had a court case involving the
removal of a 13 year old girl
and her sibling from their home
the crime. The father
misgendered her. She told her
school guidance counselor and
the guidance counselor contacted
the Department of Child Services
DCS, they removed the children
in the middle of a school day.
These children were placed in
foster care, and the case was
assigned to me. I attended
supervised visitations the
counselor running the
visitations would warn the
father beforehand that if he
misgendered, his son, who was a
13 year old girl, she would end
the visit early because it was
an act of violence causing harm.
I petitioned the judge and
implored the Department of Child
Services multiple times to close
this case and put the children
back in their home where they
belong. warning that this was
massive government overreach, it
took three months for the judge
to dismiss the case. Three
months at a normal parent fought
to get his kids back sidenote,
while in foster care, the
children got the COVID Jab
against the will of the Father.
It wasn't until I demand that
the Father had final say over
his children's medical care that
this went before the judge and
he ordered the second dose not
be administered without parental
consent. I want to remind the no
agenda list. There's no agenda
nation. This is a deep red
County in a deep red state. And
this was 2020 over three years
ago. For parents who think the
public school system is broken
and in need of repair be
advised. It's working exactly
how it was intended to work and
things will only get worst.
Compulsory education was
designed to enslave and produce
compliant consumers. Parents
stopped blaming tick tock social
media, cell phones and public
schools and start taking
responsibility and ownership for
what's influencing your
children. At the end of the day,
there's a couple of links in
there for people to take a look
at. Is this she? Yes. This is in
one of our producers would this
boots on the ground and I really
appreciate her taking some risk
and telling us this, too. This
is why this is what's going on.
And this happened three years
ago.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, to what's
going on.
Adam Curry: And I would have to
say that's a a Maoist movement.
It's totally my wish being
controlled by the
John C Dvorak: very well done. I
mean, you had the one thing you
have to say if you're going to
be honest about it gets really
well done. The Maoists behind it
are just great. They're
fantastic and the pot the
general public seems to be
oblivious, which is exactly what
you want a bunch of oblivious
boneheads and that's what you
end that's how you end up with
that Brown. Diversity survey,
which indicated that you should
I would like to read that again,
because it's pretty interesting
that this would be a situation
which makes no sense,
historically, but can you read
that brown data again?
Adam Curry: 38 to 38% of
students at the ivy already has
almost 40% identified as either
homosexual, bisexual, queer,
asexual pansexual questioning or
other There you go. Yeah. And so
when
John C Dvorak: when children
1% 2%, maybe five when children
are convinced of
Adam Curry: these things,
someone has a hold on them. And
by the way, you know, we just
going back to the sound of
freedom, which is also about
abuse of children stealing
children selling children, God
knows what they're doing. Look
at the difference. But do you
remember the Netflix series
cuties? Do you remember that?
Yes, how fawning was was the the
main stream over cuties?
John C Dvorak: I think we
discussed it on the show as it
does kind of a borderline
disgusting show. certainly
Adam Curry: did. We certainly
did. And now compare that to
sound of freedom. Something is
wrong.
John C Dvorak: I'd say
Adam Curry: proposed, proposed
California bill would brand
parents abusive if they refuse
to affirm their child's gender.
John C Dvorak: Birth. Yeah,
that's Gavin Newsom.
Unknown: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
John C Dvorak: I don't know
who's pulling his strings. But
somebody there's some the whole
thing is ludicrous. And which
brings us back to what happens
to the people who are caught up
in this and I have two, two
characters who are going to go
on Tik Tok and moan and groan
about being misgendered and what
it really means to them. Okay,
and I want to play the first
one, which is the myths of
gender pain,
Unknown: I get so many comments
like this. And I want to explain
something being misgendered can
be an incredibly painful
experience. In that moment, we
are reminded that the world
places us into a bucket that we
do not fit in. And it is
incredibly dramatic to grow up
being constantly told you
something you're not so for a
lot of people being misgendered
triggers that trauma. So if it
looks like I'm mad, it's
probably because I'm in a lot of
pain, in the same way that when
we stub our toe, we scream
expletives because we're in
pain, also us non binary people,
we're forced to educate
ourselves on our own existence.
So it can be frustrating when we
see people who are not putting
in the work and constantly
making mistakes, and I know what
is new, I know mistakes are
bound to happen. And I have
patients for people who are
genuinely putting in the work. I
know so many of you don't want
to be hurting non binary people.
But the truth is, when you miss
gender rescue, you are to expect
us to hold your hand through it
while we're being hurt. That's
abusive behavior.
Adam Curry: Alright, so
something I need to say about
this. So what you're seeing here
is not just someone's opinion
and their nuts. This is someone
who has no other way to be an
influencer to get likes to get
traction to get followers to get
kudos to get whatever it is
whatever the reward mechanism is
of social media in this case,
Tik Tok, which I don't actually
know but you can surmise what it
is. This is just another part of
the reward loop. And so it's
just another thing to talk about
that you can get people going
Yeah, that's right. You're good.
I'm following you go slay Queen
through and this the same with
him like a troll. Yes. Well,
it's not it's a reward system is
the number one coveted job in in
the world now is influencer
everybody. Look everybody loves
getting kudos. Like, Hey, I got
some cute I got some likes. Now
this is fantastic. I'm doing
great. I'm popular. People love
me. So if you have anything to
talk about what's easier than to
go? And don't miss gender? Me? I
don't know. It's it's harmful.
It's hurting me. I can do that.
Every every you can do that. In
fact, I think you should open a
tick tock and be the old crusty
white guy who's who's mad that
he's misgendered put a wig on.
John C Dvorak: But do it to you
should do.
Adam Curry: Yes, I know. I know
about. The other Yeah. Yeah,
this is it's it's an evil evil
loop and people are stuck in it.
And even if they if the problem,
this person, probably not
different gender at all. It's
just a thing to do. And what you
can say, here is I'm queer. I'm
queer.
John C Dvorak: Again, is where I
part ways with your concept and
things. Because I believe these
people are more sincere than you
do. Generally speaking. Well,
eventually
Adam Curry: you convince me yes,
they're sincere. They're queer.
Great.
John C Dvorak: I mean, once this
year, I'm queer. So now what
bothered me about this is this
idea of putting in the work and
he said it twice. Yeah. Or she?
I don't know. He never said on
the thing what? Gender Vichy it
is, but putting in the word this
is like, Wait, why should I do
anything? I mean, the idea of
social cues were supposed to
take care of this for me So I
saw somebody wearing a dress and
it had a blonde wig. That's uh,
she, yes, it's easy enough in
your little kid and somebody's
wearing pants and you know,
rough customer guy with a beard
key. I don't shouldn't have to
go beyond that because I don't
need to put in the work on every
individual that I don't even
know who they are.
Adam Curry: Do otherwise the
influencer has no gig. If we
don't if we can't say you need
to put in the work, which by the
way stems from Black Lives
Matter. Do the work. Do the
work.
John C Dvorak: No, no, no, I
thought it was pretty dead stem
from what was it? Was that
woman? Yes. That did the book
us. Yes, White River
Unknown: white privilege do
Adam Curry: the black. Okay,
white privilege, do the work.
You got to be doing the work.
Put in the work. You're not
doing the work. I can scold you
for not doing the work. That's
what this is.
John C Dvorak: All right. So go
to the next guy another
complaint or this another
misgendered poor soul. And this
is the one who's not only miss
gender, but misgendered. And
Unknown: irked. And I genuinely
think that people don't realize
how deeply microaggressions and
misgendering affects trans
people in Houston tiny example I
auditioned slash interviewed for
this film intensive and one of
the things they talked about in
my interview was being a gender
fluid actor and wanting to fight
affirmative spaces to tell queer
narratives. One of the
administrators who has her
pronouns in her email signature
pushes me on to the final round
with this email that misgendered
me three different times my
pronouns are in my email
signature, my Zoom name, my
resume my application and on my
film reel, so I respond
cordially. And I add this before
I've even met anyone for this
final interview, I've had to
correct it administrator in
front of her boss, and I've
already had to be on the defense
defending my own identity, This
just creates an awkward power
dynamic that could have been
completely avoided. And
depending on this person's
response, it can either be a non
issue, or it puts me at a major
disadvantage. This is something
says people just do not deal
with and it's also really easy
to get someone's pronouns,
right, especially when you're
typing them out.
Adam Curry: Now, this is the
social control. This is this is
this is trans mouse. And right
here, the social control of
pronouns, that's where it all
started. And it's in the
workplace. And people are afraid
to just call bullcrap because
you can get fired Oh, but it's a
beautiful mechanism. And this
has been going on for decades.
And here we are. And by the way
out with these stupid clips and
the only gig we can get and keep
is this podcasting
John C Dvorak: because we only
want the support of the people
out there who produced the show
and
Adam Curry: with that, I'd like
to thank you for your courage
say in the morning to you the
man who put the C in sincerely
queer ladies and gentlemen say
hello to my friend on the other
end one only Mr. Johnson
John C Dvorak: Hello, Mr. Add in
the morning to you Adam Curry
who doesn't definitely does not
want to hear a clip I am
guessing anyway. No, she was in
rough in the air subs in the
water all the names and lights
up there
Unknown: in the morning
Adam Curry: in the morning to
the trolls and the troll room
out the trolls for saying hello
Trump put your heel down
scurrying away 2015. That's good
for Thursday.
John C Dvorak: That's fantastic
for Thursday. That's
Adam Curry: the new normal. And
boy, let me tell you this
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of the donations I picked
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John C Dvorak: I don't think
anyone's ever said that. Yes, I
Adam Curry: someone tweeted a
just last show. Just the last
show. And I said oh that may be
well that may be
John C Dvorak: is the words no
agenda too hard to decipher.
Yes, yeah, because it it didn't
go gold right at the top these
Adam Curry: are these are people
who have 8000 subscriptions in
their podcast app listen at four
times speed. If I can't find
that, I can't find that.
John C Dvorak: I can't find
guide that's too hard for me not
find it.
Adam Curry: Your watch will get
a whole bunch of emails. Do you
all agree with a guy he's kind
of hard to find who?
John C Dvorak: We don't care.
That's the voice you should
perfect.
Adam Curry: All of us how can we
suck and we're gonna go like
this. I can remember what I did
John C Dvorak: was that it was a
Adam Curry: niche now I can't
remember back and listen. We
want to thank the artists for
episode 1571. We titled that one
wrong. Which man, a lot of
people that lady from the wrong
NPR interview. She did that
conspiracy crew she did a whole
video on that thing. She is very
wrong indeed. Yeah, you guys in
the show notes you got to take a
look at what you and some people
say
John C Dvorak: that you're
talking about the woman who did
the book that was the that? I
don't think that was that the
guest I thought the guests was
the wrong? No, no, I thought it
was the host that was the one.
Adam Curry: Well, I heard two
things. I heard one it was coke.
Someone was coked out like a
like a Coke, throat coke throat
or something. And another one
John C Dvorak: was he end up
saying wrong. Wrong Wrong.
Adam Curry: And another one was
millio California Ahsoka SoCal.
Yeah, it could be it could be
million. Anyway, networks did a
dynamite piece of art for us and
I can't wait to talk about the
cluster bombs later in the show.
This was the cluster duds for
those of you who are not
familiar with Milk Duds in the
United States, it's a loved
candy. It was a pasty flush of
the Milk Duds bite size bomblets
33 fragments up armored taste it
was just without I mean, we
there were several other pieces
of art that we'd like but this
was beautiful.
John C Dvorak: And there was a
there was a in this case the
done this show. Yeah, there was
at least five pieces that were
all usable there were
Adam Curry: now we liked this
one also because it had the
white background which really
makes it pop
John C Dvorak: was the second
version. I'm not even sure. And
then there was another version
of the almost exact same art
done by Parker Paulie. Yeah,
Adam Curry: yeah, he had 1%
duds. Yeah, it was it was close.
Let's see what else was there.
There was now honorary mentioned
for the conspiracy addled Boomer
cap.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I use it
for the newsletter. Yeah,
Adam Curry: that was funny. It
wasn't the best but it was
funny. what else what else was
was on the high on the menu here
fact check wrong and also no
agenda is never wrong so
multiple Ronk article life wrong
but we wanted we wanted to title
the show wrong that was obvious
so and we try not to title the
show the same as the artwork.
There were some cluster bomb
jokes in there. Someone actually
put your your car in there. I
was going to Blogger Of course.
What else? What else was there
that we liked? Was there
anything else? You know?
John C Dvorak: Everything was
good. I just obviously generally
speaking, it was
Adam Curry: in general. Yeah,
just just in the artists are so
talented. We love them so much.
Watch it it's a competition was
anything we need to critique
somebody don't want to do a
really crappy job.
John C Dvorak: I couldn't come
up with anything. There's no
real harsh critique here. We try
to do harsh critiques and losers
no harsh critique, like
something that should have won
but because they did this or
that wrong.
Adam Curry: Now that I'm looking
at it Bowling for Ukraine, it's
too complicated. But Francisco,
there's that one. So on the
right hand side, Francisco
Scaramanga if he has beautiful
fonts he did it did something
original for sure, but it just
didn't have that. That X Factor,
you know, and that that was no
good day, Kenny. Ben had the
suicide by jet which just no one
can't see that. That's a jet
engine. Good try, though. Good
try. We appreciate all of it.
It's It's such nice use of your
talent. And these are great
artists because they do this
while they're listening live.
They just throw this together
and get it up there because they
might
John C Dvorak: kind of like duds
away touch up by certain net
Ned. It's a 33rd Squadron f the
EU and duds away?
Adam Curry: That was nice. Yes,
John C Dvorak: a patch. I think
it's a nice patch.
Adam Curry: That should be in
the no agenda shop. This patch.
Possibly. Anyway, no agenda art.
generator.com is where you can
see all of these pieces of art
and you can refresh it live.
They're already uploading pieces
405 For this episode, or you can
use one of those modern podcast
apps, Dred Scott does chapters
for us and changes the arch
continuously. When you're in the
car. If you're using CarPlay on
some of these apps, or Android
Auto you can actually see that
art change right in front of you
on your on your dashboard, which
is also fun. That's great. Thank
you artists, we appreciate you
and of course, thank you Ness
works very well done. Now. Let
us thank some of the executive
and Associate Executive
producers for episode 1572. We
call them all everybody's a
producer. No one's just a
listener. Everybody produces
somehow with your time talent or
treasure. And just like
Hollywood when someone comes in
with big bucks to help us out,
you become an executive producer
or Associate Executive Producer
and we kick it off with Damian
Alderson from outta Montes out
to Monty Altamonte Springs Delta
Mont Alto mon Springs Florida
with a favorite number four five
6.78 In the morning gents de
meowed isn't here who I met in
Nashville. She's fantastic. He's
very funny. Damien is in here
trying to keep it short and
sweet. Jingles oh I didn't for
some reason miss these from her.
There's no there there a JC the
classic. No, there. Yeah, I got
that one. An Amen fist bump.
Another no agenda classic. Love
that. And little girl gate. This
donation brings me to VI
Countess. Don't underestimate
those monthly donations, y'all.
You guys are putting out
excellent material. Thank you.
As always, I'm also also asking
for travel karma. As I head to
Greece, I'll be celebrating my
35th birthday in Santorini on
the 18th so please add me to the
birthday list. I look forward to
catching up on new episodes when
I returned from vacation. What
do they not have? Internet in
Santorini? You think she's just
taking like a sabbatical
John C Dvorak: from? Some people
do that? Okay, well that's okay.
We have no problem leave your
cell phone at home. That's the
main love and let Dame
Adam Curry: vie Countess to be
me. How does then right exactly
like there's there's no agenda?
No, that's not what it that's
not what I wanted to know.
There. There. Hold on. No, there
are there. Now that's weird. I
don't have that one. Is that AI
does. Does that exist? There's
no there there. I kind of
remember it. I can't remember.
Mom. Sorry. I'll have to look it
up for you. Hey, man. Fist bump.
No, that's also the wrong one.
I'm wrong. Two for to a Fizbo I
liked that one. No, but I'm two
for two. This is this is not
Unknown: very good. Hey, man.
Fist bump. There
Adam Curry: we go. Oh, man. So
sorry about that. You've got
karma. I thought I did a good
job of getting the jingles. I
missed yours. Damien was I'll
look for that to JCD No, they're
there.
John C Dvorak: surplus to
requirements, surplus to
requirements. Brad Sherwood.
That all means but 34543. And he
said he said a dice card it says
Thanks from all of us. And on
the card he says we appreciate
it. I tam gentlemen, thank you
for what you do because of your
hard work. Your listeners are
all better informed and
therefore smarter. Then the man
quote unquote the man wants us
to be the man wants us to be
cheers surplus to requirements
Adam Curry: oh thank you very
much then we have oh by the way
I found a did find another cool
JCD jingle me you're likely
Unknown: heard that one in a
long time.
Adam Curry: Sir RJ grande point
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which amount is credited? July
12 marks my 55th birthday I
request oh gee Sharpton super
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author of Kubrick's YouTube lead
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and Tony Scalia Kim Kardashian
and the Republican candidates
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two college students in Beijing
is getting lunch at Chipotle in
Iowa bein is appropriate. The
GOP Tax Day Giveaway to
millionaires, why was traffic
problems email sent the
environmental projection agency
and what's sequestration has
done
Adam Curry: and the trolls are
correcting me saying that
Manitoba is in California.
That's not true.
John C Dvorak: No, Manitoba It's
easy in grande Pointe Manitoba
Canada. Yeah. That's
interesting. Was says very
clearly on Yes. super clear. All
right. Stay gram Point. Point.
Point Manitoba. Juan.
Adam Curry: Ponte. Dues Paul.
You're up.
John C Dvorak: Oh, Chris pomos
is up. Me. Chris Thomas. Thomas.
He's in Thomas Burg, Ontario,
Canada. We have two Canadians in
a row. And he also came with the
same 33333 Now all he has to say
is cheers, fellas. Christ. And
then in the parents is the word
creased.
Adam Curry: Do you not
understand that's a
pronunciation guide. His name
was creased. palmos creased.
Creek Rhesus.
John C Dvorak: Yes. No, it was
creased. So he's gonna start
over. Oh, please
Adam Curry: do take it out. All
right, cut
John C Dvorak: it out. creased,
creased greased palmas and
Thomas Berg, Ontario, Canada.
33333. Cheers.
Adam Curry: All right, then.
Random Number theory. Third
Kansas avian in a row. Michel?
cartmill Westbank British
Columbia 333. Hey, John and
Adam. I'm a little late on this
year's annual donation but we've
been busy planning a move to
Saskatoon Saskatchewan from our
home in BC. Isn't that where all
the money is? John?
Unknown: Saskatchewan. Yeah. Oh,
they have money that oh, it's
Alberta
Adam Curry: Oh, I decided I
needed to donate to ask for
house selling buying and moving
karma. When I sat down to do so
the clock red 333 It was a sign.
So here is said promised
donation with the amount 333 USD
it's 464 dot 36 and dollar EDS
but it's just worth it. We value
the show greatly. So this is
what I'm talking about. The only
other thing I asked is for add
rial to be officially knighted
add rial that Adria Adria I
think Adrian, we had put his
knighthood into abeyance due to
not having some kind of creative
name to dazzle the listeners
with but it's been over a year
and he hasn't picked one. So
I've decided to go with Sir
Adrian Knight of the free BSD if
he doesn't like it, he can
request to change himself. Thank
you both for your courage.
Michelle and Adrian Cartmell and
fear is your karma for all that
Unknown: you've got karma.
John C Dvorak: Angel is a Linux
fan.
Adam Curry: FreeBSD is not the
same as Linux.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I know it's
better.
Adam Curry: Oh, oh, okay. John
dvorak.org.
John C Dvorak: Tom, in Minot,
Minato KU, Tokyo, Japan, and
Erie. Another donation provided
The country even though pay
pelted This is a funny bit here.
Even though Pay Pal tells me I
can't donate from Japan it
somehow let me go through with
333
Adam Curry: is must be the
number
John C Dvorak: 333 key is the
key and you're all in Tokyo play
you know the three three check
just a dude named been out here
for over 30 years working in the
financial sector. You guys are
the best love to my gorgeous
wife and amazing daughter D
douching. Please.
Unknown: You've been D deuced.
John C Dvorak: For all in
anything else. Sharpton you
heard a lot of Al Sharpton
earlier in regards to time
Unknown: the SPI CT karma
Adam Curry: onward to Jack
Tinkler. Columbus, Georgia 333
Dear best friends John and Adam
my second donation and I started
listening to no agenda after
Adams first Rogan visit
brilliant donation please send
karma my way with a biscuit for
my birthday. We got a biscuit
for your birthday always give me
a biscuit on my birthday. Oh
he's also like a Trump arouse.
Okay, can you see that juice? Oh
brother and a little girl yay.
We got all that for
Unknown: you. It was hard to get
it aroused and it is hard to get
it aroused but we got it arrest.
John C Dvorak: Oh my gosh. Can
you see that? Resting Harmar the
disgusting array of clips worse
coming. Li percuss L E IG H is a
female's name in Birmingham
West. Somewhere in UK in the UK.
Birmingham first apologies for
the last note I have nerve nerve
damage in one hand and I tried
to voice the text. And that was
the result. Okay. I don't
remember there was probably we
don't have that note. So but
it's good to know Yeah, I think
this donation gets me a title
which will be the hermit of the
eight see Lee Crosby a man's
name and the title hermit of
that he is a sexual. Thanks for
giving some context to the
world. We try when I met you
want to know whether this is Lee
you as a female or a male Li.
Adam Curry: I don't know. But
Lee's getting guessing as
John C Dvorak: a male because of
the nerve nerve damage to the
hand is the right hand.
Unknown: Okay, here we go.
Adam Curry: We'll see you on the
podium later. Lee. Thank you.
Sonya pain is in Paragon Indiana
to 4398 our first Associate
Executive Producer, and Sonia
has an even more disgusting
donation request. As it brings
out this is Sonia what Sonia
brings. Sonia brings me to
knighthood. Now must be a dame.
No. Please Knight me sir. Nasty
Nate protector of Morgan County
as it must have been his wife's
Pay Pal, I guess. Yeah, that's
gotta be it. Okay, so Nate. This
donation brings me a knighthood
and celebrating my 30th
John C Dvorak: birthday know
that your Pay Pal is being
raided by Nate. She does
Adam Curry: now been listening
since 2012 and on a monthly
donation since 2020 Thank you.
Please help me sir. Nasty Nate
protector of Morgan County
Indiana. Jingles smokin hot
wife. I'm going to come and 69
Dude. Oh yeah. Thanks for your
credit for your courage.
Unknown: 6969
John C Dvorak: What is wrong
with people? It's your tooth
fairy in Valparaiso, Indiana.
Hey guys. Thank you again for
the best podcast in the universe
have a couple of edibles the
other day and ended up
listening. It listening a recent
episode of Brett Weinstein's
podcast and necessary wisdom
she's had to be stoned. He was
discussing Atrazine and frogs,
which we talked about 10 years
ago.
Adam Curry: Well, Alex Jones
told us this turning the frogs
gay.
John C Dvorak: Well, he said it
was turning the frogs gay but
I'm the one who had the clips
from the professor at cow that
was disgusting. It was
discussing Atrazine in the water
and mentioned that possibility.
I think I figured people should
we should look those clips I
have.
Adam Curry: I have. So if I
think we're
John C Dvorak: I figured that
the real reason they want us
feasting on insects, is
hypotheses of how carnivorous
frogs should be exposed to the
herbicide to the herbicide
atrazine, it was most likely due
to the nerd diet bugs. The bugs
eat the poison plants we eat the
bugs and the little boy's Dick
start to fallen off. Yay. You A
game set match the lizard people
when he's still on animals. It
seems to me a man for jingles
gonna get an eye like bugs
Bouchy wheeze and Trump's Space
Force. Thanks, sir Tooth Fairy
Unknown: tastes like blue. It
was hard to get it aroused and
I was you. That was
Adam Curry: that's me. Face
forward. There we go. So many
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I've been cleaning. I've been
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sees, yeah, most children if
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would discover that they were
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that sounds about right and when
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Adam Curry: bad as a good tip
though, it's a good tip if you
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John C Dvorak: To the chop shop
shop. Sorry, I even came up with
that. Yeah. But it's a good show
title. Yeah, I've been able to
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Christian counseling practice.
This seems to naturally weed out
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feelings challenged. In
addition, I do not work with
children, which seems to be a
protective barrier as well. That
makes sense. Thank you too, for
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Adam Curry: This is a nice five.
I haven't listened in a while
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Last Sunday show was outstanding
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me. For a large number of
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Right? You might
John C Dvorak: be right this
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John C Dvorak: was a lot in
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course. Of course. Of course.
There
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Adam Curry: Yeah. All right.
Thank you for producing that
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Unknown: You want to go hang out
with Dyson days you'd
be triggered
you want to be where everybody
feels
Adam Curry: the same? Like a
body like a big ass Potty. Potty
potty potty. I have a number of
ISOs actually today
John C Dvorak: oh good because I
only have to play mine for
Adam Curry: a second. Okay, yes.
All right. What are your
John C Dvorak: somebody with I
think a kind of a Cockney accent
saying 100% 100% Australian
100% 100% That's not bad. Have
you seen 10%? Yes. And then the
other one is what's the other I
saw? Interesting.
Unknown: It's what it's called.
John C Dvorak: Yeah, this was
just somebody saying it's kind
of interesting. Kinda interest
kind of not interesting. Yeah.
Alright, proceed proceed. It was
100% Here's
Adam Curry: some choices she
came
Unknown: in or hot and bothered
Adam Curry: I don't know why
just like Amy Goodman saying
that. I have this one. grateful.
Grateful for your time.
John C Dvorak: Thank you.
grateful for your time. I liked
that one.
Adam Curry: You liked that one?
Good. Let me see. Well, that's
interesting. I also have 100 ISO
100% I went on to present a
great I don't like that one.
This one truth must be spoken.
No, I think I think this one is
the one I liked the best man.
This is not what I thought was
gonna happen. That's not that
was not my final one. I had a
different one. This is weird.
John C Dvorak: You got a good
one there. You may have saved
the other one because the
grateful for your time I thought
it was a nice. It was sharp
sounding. It was clear. Yeah,
it's been muddy.
Adam Curry: I had a really funny
one. Now I'm pissed. I caught a
John C Dvorak: fish the other
day.
Adam Curry: A huge Hold on a
second. What? What happened? Let
me just say something I this is
this this oh, here it is. I knew
it. I knew it. Please remain
seated for the family photo Come
on. I knew you'd write. I knew
it was worth finding. I knew it.
I knew it. I knew it. Please
remain seated beauty family
photo.
John C Dvorak: Definitely one of
the top of the year. Yeah. So we
say you mentioned you mentioned
Vilnius. So let's play. No,
yeah. So we'll track down what
was going on there. This
Adam Curry: was the NATO I have
this succinct break
John C Dvorak: down. You can
follow that beautiful. This is
like the kind of a just a
generalized discussion from NTD.
Adam Curry: What is it I'm
looking for? Oh, here nice to
meet ya. Oh, hold on a second.
Unknown: People who get their
news from Chinese religious
calls
as the NATO Summit is underway
with a whole host of issues on
the table. We turn now to NTDs
Iris Tao, who's tracking the
meeting on the ground from
Vilnius, Lithuania
as NATO leaders gathered here in
Vilnius, Lithuania, membership
to the key Alliance dominates
discussions at the annual
summit, President Biden today
held a one on one meeting with
the President of Turkey, who on
the eve of this summit and clear
the path for Sweden to join
NATO.
This summit is affirming our
commitment to NATO offense,
close allies in NATO, and hope
we can make it even stronger. So
welcome.
The meeting also comes as a
White House's warning announced
that it will move forward with F
16 cells to Turkey, saying that
a move
that this is in our national
interest. It's in the interest
of NATO that Turkey get that
capability.
And another major topic here
that's at the top of the agenda
is Ukraine's are first to try to
join NATO. But that push seems
to be stalled. A summit
communique agreed on Tuesday
pledges to extend an invitation
for Ukraine to join when quote,
allies agree and conditions are
met, adding that the alliance
will support Ukraine and making
reforms on its path towards
future membership by Ukrainian
president Volodymyr Zelensky.
said in a tweet today that quote
certain wording as being
discussed without Ukraine,
adding that is unprecedented and
absurd that there's no clear
timeline for Ukraine to join.
But President Biden today said
that he stood with the NATO's
language.
Adam Curry: Yeah, there's a meme
of Volodymyr Zelensky. At the
family photo event, I guess, at
NATO, and everybody's, you know,
dressed up and their evening
gowns and they're all taught the
hilt Yeah. And he's just there
like, like, a little boy lost
with his with his green army
fatigues on or whatever, that's
your choice of clothing very,
completely wrong. But you know
that he's an actor, and the
central casting only
John C Dvorak: tells him what to
do. somebody's telling him what
to do. And he's doing it. Yeah,
right. You have Biden saying
something here on NATO, you
might want to play it is from
the event and I have to say
there's most of his terrible I
think I clean this one up.
Unknown: We agree on the
language that we've proposed. Do
you propose to relative to the
future of Ukraine being and when
you join, they don't and we're
looking for continued to unite.
Adam Curry: NATO. So did they
clap for that? Did they? Oh,
very good. Very good. Very good.
God
John C Dvorak: clap for
everything.
Adam Curry: This so stupid. The
man is toast. Although, you
know, the reports that Biden
yells at everybody behind the
scenes getting out there. It's
pretty interesting, which I
think is plan. Thesis. Yeah, but
I think it's just planted. I
have a CBS report about NATO.
Thanks, Lithuania
Unknown: dozens of world leaders
in town but only one got a
reception like this all the love
didn't Wow.
Did you hear that? Was that you?
Adam Curry: Know, someone one
Unknown: got a reception like
this. And yet overwhelmed do not
make up for the one thing
Ukraine's leader really wants
membership in the Alliance
meeting right down the road, not
on dice Neato. Give Ukraine
security he pleaded Ukraine will
make NATO stronger. NATO leaders
did offer a consolation prize
today that they build as a major
breakthrough. Ukraine's future
is in NATO they announced but
only after the nation makes
democratic and security sector
reforms. This is a big step
Solinsky called it absurd to
place vague new conditions on
Ukraine without setting a
membership time. table. But some
NATO Allies worry that could
draw them into direct
confrontation with Russia. How
soon would you like to see
Ukraine become a member of NATO?
John C Dvorak: I can't put a
timetable on it for you. NATO
Unknown: countries are making
other promises. France is
offering long range missiles,
Germany 65 tanks and armored
vehicles.
Adam Curry: Sounds like McCrone
got the memo. Oh, give me some.
Some.
John C Dvorak: They actually do
these missiles or underwear
according to the defense one
newsletter. Yeah, and they have
a range of 250 kilometers, which
is not quite enough to hit
Moscow.
Adam Curry: But But France is
participating.
John C Dvorak: But now they're
participating with these long
range missiles, which means
they're going to use these
things. They're pretty big.
Adam Curry: Do not do that. For
me. I am participating or giving
you long range missiles,
missiles, I
John C Dvorak: gotta use it to
probably bomb the shit out of
Crimea. For you. NATO countries
Unknown: are making other
promises. France is offering
long range missiles, Germany 65
tanks and armored vehicles, and
11 nations will start training
Ukrainian pilots to fly F
sixteens. How long is that
training gonna take? Pentagon?
Undersecretary Collin calm.
We're talking about you know,
somewhere between 618 months
depending on how well other
Ukrainian pilots do? Oh, yeah.
Not far to the east. Russia is
watching all of this unfold. The
Russian spokesperson saying
today that a new agreement to
allow Sweden to join NATO is
clearly negative for Russia. He
vowed countermeasures, though he
didn't specify what those might
be Nora.
Adam Curry: So this is a big
circle jerk sales conference.
Basically, they don't want these
guys NATO they don't want the
war to stop. They want the day
bad. Give away all your old
crap. Got some old missiles,
send them over there. We'll bet
we're gonna take care of take
your people's money, build some
new ones.
John C Dvorak: There was some
tweet that's been mummified. Or
some comment that was meme of
fighting going around that shows
that one of the generals of one
of the NATO generals saying that
this is what turning into one of
the greatest testing grounds for
weaponry. No, yeah. That we
could ever hope for. Yeah, it's
Adam Curry: the best ever. Best
Ever. There was a very funny
moment at the State Department.
Spokes hole, Matthew Miller was
so anxious and so just anxious
to get the truth out that he let
it slip out twice, even though
he was corrected two things.
Unknown: I will say. With
respect to your first question.
We believe the war has been a
strategic failure for Ukraine.
The Secretary spoke to this in a
speech he gave in Helsinki. Last
month I believe it was because
I'm sorry, excuse me a strategic
failure for Ukraine. Thank you
for the question. Which is I
need more than one correct
correction today. So this is the
first time at the podium for a
week I'm a little raw. I'm
apparently a little rusty. I
never expected you guys to see
the high ground. I'm a little
rusty, I guess.
Adam Curry: You couldn't really
hear but Matt Lee and they're
saying Well, I never thought
nobody expected you to go all
the way to the truth. So twice
he says strategic failure for
Ukraine. Truth wants to come out
obviously boots on the ground
report regarding the dud rates
of the cluster bombs. I strapped
munitions on aircraft in the
military. Here's what I've been
told about American dud rates,
our rates of failure are
actually much higher than other
countries. The reason is all the
safety mechanisms to prevent the
Oort ordinance by the way is not
ordinance it's ordinance from
blowing up on the flight line.
Our ordinance has many fail
safes that prevent premature
explosion. Some use radar or
altimeters to determine if they
are in freefall other use
mechanical devices to determine
spin or acceleration, most have
more than one mechanism that
must be triggered to go boom, in
many cases ordinance does not go
off because they are designed to
failsafe make sense. Makes a
John C Dvorak: lot of sense is
that is the way we operate and
so do we have more duds than
probably the Russians who are
blowing up themselves? I'm sure.
Adam Curry: So on friends 24
Douchebag. Doug came in to
explain as to splain why it's
okay for it. Yes. Why it's okay
for us to be, you know,
basically giving cluster bombs
cluster munitions to Ukraine.
And he does a pretty good job of
trying to explain why it's okay
when we do it, and actually
listening to this. I think I
know why we're really sending
those cluster bombs over there.
Listen,
Unknown: yeah, well, first of
all, you're right. 123 countries
have signed on to and now 15
year old convention banning
cluster munitions. And it's kind
of outdated. It did so because
these aren't just any weapons,
they're bombs that break into
small bomblets dispersed over a
wide area of the battlefield.
And also clearly in areas where
civilians after the war will be
walking around, and they tend to
linger there and they could
explode years later, they can
mean grievously harm and kill
civilians, which is why they
have raised such ferocious
objections from humanitarians
from human rights groups and
just ordinary people.
Adam Curry: The criticisms
ordinary people don't want to
get blowed up against them
Unknown: in a nutshell is look
just because Grata is accused of
atrocities, such as rape, such
as torture, such as executing
civilians, among other war
crimes doesn't mean that Ukraine
should stoop to the same level
that there should be some this
issue of unjust war that there
is a moral ground is a benefit
to retaining that moral high
ground, which you will
completely be deprived if you
start doing what your enemy
does, and using cluster
munitions. So yes, has Russia
been accused of using these
massively since the beginning of
the war cluster bombs are
accused of using them
indiscriminately in civilian
heavily populated civilian
areas? Yes, as well. Should does
Ukraine say it won't be doing
that?
Adam Curry: Have you seen any
reports of Russia using cluster
bombs in civilian areas during
the Ukraine war?
John C Dvorak: Have the Ukraine?
Have you seen any phone videos
of these bombs going off or
anywhere nearby or anything
from? No, I have not. Neither
have I? Yes,
Unknown: it does say that they
say there'll be concentrating on
areas Russian occupied territory
with our troops, concentrated
troop for nations to flush them
out of dug in trenches. Now
moving on all of those arguments
aside, what the allies are
saying. And two thirds of NATO
allies have signed on to this
convention or basically no take
Spain, it says no to cluster
munitions. Yes, to Ukraine's
legitimate defense. Now,
Ukraine, as you would surmise,
will say that this is part of
our legitimate defense. But
other countries Germany is
taking a stance right now they
do not use or produced cluster
munitions, they will not ship
and supply others with cluster
munitions. At the same time, its
president said in the past
couple of days, it's not going
to block the US decision. It
can't block the US now the UK is
this was
Adam Curry: interesting. This
actually happened during NATO,
there was an open Hot Mic hot
mic. And I think was the UK
Defence Minister said hey, we're
not going to act as Amazon to
deliver America's cluster bombs,
Unknown: taking a different
position, basically, user
produced and it is not going to
ship and it hasn't said anything
about where it stands. With
really respect to this US
decision. Canada did set against
it a lot of other allies. So
there are a host of countries
including I believe, Poland and
Lithuania who never signed on to
the convention. These are the
countries in the frontlines of
Russia have seen Russia's
aggression, they are more
inclined to give the nod to the
US does not cluster munitions.
But it clearly has caused a
split among allies among this
broader philosophical debate,
the moral, the ethical issues,
the question of what isn't just
war, is there? Is there such a
thing as one side being more
justified in using cluster
munitions than another side if
they're using the two different
purposes?
Adam Curry: Here's my analysis
of douchebag. Doug, these
cluster munitions are being used
in one particular area, which is
a swath swath of land, which I
believe will be the new DMZ, the
demilitarized zone, you won't be
able to walk there, you'll get
blown up because of our stupid
cluster bombs. And this will be
part of the solution. Okay,
Russia, you're here. Ukraine.
You're over there. This is the
DMZ. What do you think?
John C Dvorak: Interesting idea.
Russians have planted mines all
over it. Probably the same area?
Adam Curry: Yeah. Oh, no. But
Ukraine, no Ukraine already
mined there. They've already
mined that area.
John C Dvorak: Yeah. So maybe
it's maybe they are going to
create some sort of a dead zone.
Adam Curry: So there was a
report which came out in Reuters
yesterday. That kind of gave
gave a headline which a lot of
people are seeing as a as a as a
fail for the West. As UN
Secretary General Antonio
Guterres has proposed to Russian
President Vladimir Putin, that
he extended deal to allow the
safe Black Sea export of grain
from Ukraine in return for
connecting a subsidiary of
Russia's agricultural bank back
up to the Swift international
payment system. So interesting.
So the so this grain deal ends,
I think, to Monday, and it's a
real problem. If you look at
this reports coming from Poland,
because you know, Poland is now
just is getting crap grain than
wheat or whatever it is crap and
and dogs and cats are dying in
like massive numbers because of
just the shit this that's being
put into food there yeah yeah
there's reports of dogs and cats
in Poland dying and apparently
is because they feeding the crap
grain to the to the pigs in the
in the chickens that then is put
into dog and cat food and is
what it's what I'm hearing. But
anyway back to the Swift thing.
So so this is now kind of being
shoved Well, you know they
failed with with the, with this
new deal that the gore terrace
is is suggesting. But really
it's much worse than that.
Because this was just one of the
many demands that Russia had
previously be and what the main
thing they wanted is here it is.
They want the pipeline the
ammonia pipeline to be
reinstated to be repaired. This
is really about the ammonia pipe
and remember there was a little
story that yeah, the
John C Dvorak: ammonia pipeline
going from where to where
Adam Curry: was second I have it
here somewhere. Where's the I
thought it was here. Shoot Hold
on a second. Oh, no, I can't
find it. Why can't find it was
one it was like one of these
men. Oh, here it is on several
demands. I'm sorry. Here we go.
The Black Sea grain initiative.
Oh, crikey. Sorry. Just like I'm
failing. I'm failing like a mofo
here people. Oh, now it has now
I can't get over Ah, I don't
have the answer for your job.
It's a I had it. And I don't
have it anymore. But the ammonia
pipeline is apparently is what
this really is about. And
everybody needs that. The
ammonia is and maybe you could
be able to tell us more about
that. But the ammonia is
incredibly important. We need to
make and fertilize. Yeah,
exactly. Which is if you go back
to some of the original problems
with Russia, it was all about we
had a fertilizer shortage.
Remember, the end of COVID whole
thing about it. We are
misdirections has
John C Dvorak: control of the
group certain grain that
controls of Black Sea export
control of their grain, Ukraine
grain and all the fertilizer.
Adam Curry: And so this is not
helping Africa, nations in
Africa.
John C Dvorak: They're not
having any fun with it.
Adam Curry: They're screwed. So
I don't know. So part of this
reconnection to Swift that was
just one of the many demands.
But the main thing was we need
this. We need this pipeline
restored. So I'm still trying to
get to that page, but I'm going
to archive.org and is trying to
parse the page. It's never gonna
work. So there's a lot more
going on. It seems like like
Russia has the upper hand on a
lot of this stuff. And the Swift
reconnection thing that's pretty
interesting, and it will be
John C Dvorak: less not hasn't
been played up at all.
Adam Curry: JP Morgan Chase will
start processing some Russian
Grain Export payments with
reassurances from the US
government. Well, how about
that?
John C Dvorak: What kind of what
kind of a sanction is this,
right? That's bullcrap. No,
Russia has an upper hand in a
lot just because of the the
nature of that country being
what it is, has always had an
upper hand in a lot of things so
that's all I want to do is be
left alone.
Adam Curry: So here's your
Russia's demands. I got it.
Finally, this is from June 16.
So this is this has nothing to
month ago. Yeah. But But now
they say oh, we were connected
reconnected but so they they're
folding for one. The brushes
demands in March, they actually
demanded. They said Moscow wants
the Russian agriculture bank
reconnected to the Swift payment
system. So they're buckling
because Russia demanded it. The
United Nations is we're okay.
resumption of its black sea
ammonia exports via a pipeline
from Russia's Togliatti to
Ukraine's PIF Denny port. The
pipeline, which pumped up to 2.5
million tons of ammonia and
annually was shut down by the
war. In September, Reuters
reported that UN proposed the
Russian fertilizer producer girl
can sell us ammonia to us
headquarter commodities trader
travaux once it reaches the
Russia Ukraine border by the
pipeline, you see what these
eight holes were doing. You
gotta sell that to us. Oh my
gosh, until the ammonia pipeline
has restarted Moscow said it
will limit the number of vessels
allowed to travel to the piff
Denny port under the Black Sea
grain deal. Un data shows no
ships have visited PIF Denny
port for more than a month. Last
week Russia accused that was
this is back in June. Ukrainian
forces are blowing up part of
the pipeline the world's longest
carrying ammonia and Ukraine's
Kharkiv region. The regional
Ukraine governor said Russia had
shelled the pipeline, because
that makes so much sense.
Neither side provided any
evidence. More than 400,000 tons
of Russian fertilizer was
initially stranded in European
Union ports after the war
started, the UN officials have
negotiated it's released for
export to Africa after Russia
said it would be donated. So so
be Russia has a lot of cards
here. A lot. And we're gonna go
pretty hungry. Well, maybe not
what lab meat will be okay,
John C Dvorak: yo, yo, let me
see. If you don't mind jumping
to China and its influence in
Africa, and then now the more
latest efforts are in Latin
America. Mm hmm. I think we
should play these clips.
Unknown: Mark our shot guys.
Good to have you on the show.
China's rapidly expanding its
military and surveillance in
Latin America serves across
Latin America, including at a
strategic port in Argentina.
Could you lay out for us? What
is China doing to expand its
influence in the region,
we're also doing a lot.
Basically, over the last 20
years, they shifted to being
soft America's main commercial
partner, except for Mexico to
basically dominate the region,
economically. And one key thing
they have been doing here, which
I think is of concern, is the
fact that they have been
expanding predatory loans. So
they have their infrastructure
Belt and Road project. They have
other infrastructure projects.
And what they do, according to a
study by widow and Mary
University, which was a by a lab
called Pay data, is that they
give very different loans than
what you might expect from other
copies or from Western copies,
which they have a lot of strings
attached to them, which gives
them huge leverage now to
further their interests in any
other country. And in
specifically in Latin America.
They have been sponsoring their
water paratus they have a
military run space base in
Argentina. We're talking about
another spy base in Cuba, which
was recently on the news in the
US does a lot of stake for
Russia. Donald Trump don't trust
China, China is as Hoh, same
guy.
John C Dvorak: You know, the
funny thing is, is that they're
just using, as you remember a
decade ago, and we were kind of
harping on the on the book.
Confessions of an economic
hitman by Perkins the original,
the original. Yeah. It's just
using our tricks.
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Go
verbalised Go in rebuild. But
you don't like it. We'll send
the jackals in. That's all our
tricks.
John C Dvorak: Are to that I
Adam Curry: only have three.
This is what I don't understand.
I have oh,
John C Dvorak: yes, there is.
Part Two has been excised. And
part three,
Unknown: right now that US
Congress, I think Brazil, for
instance, my whole country, that
fourth largest food producer in
the world, and the breadbasket
of critical materials, which the
US needs to produce jets,
semiconductors and other
critical items. But the rest is
I think that poultry that was
third of its economy, but in the
hands of shame, it's still
letting them do that. It's still
I think, this country where I am
right now. But for the last 20
years, the US has been lacking
China power to loan 10s of
billions of dollars to
Venezuela, which has enabled
them to feel the US was drugs,
but on purpose. This is not
about making money. This is stay
true and cartels really flooding
the US with drugs and purples as
the DOJ has stated when they
charge Nicolas Maduro, the
president of Venezuela, a narco
terrorism charge, it's for
conspiracy to flood your assets.
Okay, now, who is enabling
office? It's the Chinese bonds.
So I think you are taking his
word. But to be quite honest,
it's getting back to your
question. I don't think there's
much to be done right now.
Because it's kind of going into
critical mass that the US needs
to start taking Latin American
more seriously. And taking
democracy in the southern
hemisphere more seriously.
Adam Curry: I gotta tell you, we
can't play these clips anymore.
If you're not reading along with
the words, it's almost
impossible to understand guys.
John C Dvorak: The guy is a bad
clip because, by the way, and it
was it is a better clip than it
was
Adam Curry: bollocks to Adobe.
John C Dvorak: But the problem
was with the guy's a fast
talker, and he's got a very
thick Portuguese accent, which
makes it very hard done.
Adam Curry: Yes. Bad combo.
Well, hold on. I have a China
clip, which is actually well,
Unknown: overnight micros Talk
revealed that a Chinese hacking
organization broke into the
email for 25 major
organizations, including
government agencies, Trevor also
is tracking the latest. Good
morning, Trevor.
Good morning. George is a very
alarming announcement from
Microsoft. They say this started
in May. And while they didn't
specify which organizations were
hit, they have revealed some of
them, as you say, are government
agencies. And Microsoft says the
group behind this is known as
Storm 0558. The company claims
this is a spy agency that's
based in China. And we're told
storm gain access to these
organizations emails by getting
into individual accounts. And
what that means is at this
point, it's not clear how much
data or information that we're
actually able to access that
Microsoft says the threat has
since been completely mitigated.
They've added new automated
systems to detect these kinds of
hacks. But they say cyber
attacks are becoming much more
common and a lot more
sophisticated in any individual
could be targeted.
Adam Curry: Man, why are we
using? Why don't we use open
source stuff, but why are we
using Microsoft for all our
sensitive issue? Is
John C Dvorak: this are they
talking about outlook accounts?
Are they talking about the mail
servers that Microsoft Exchange
Server, you're talking about?
What are they talking about?
What are you talking about
exchange? Are they talking about
Outlook account? I have a
Adam Curry: longer clip if you
want.
John C Dvorak: Does it have it
in there?
Adam Curry: I'm not sure it's
from ABC it must be good.
Unknown: Overnight. NBC News
confirmed the Commerce
Department was also targeted
during a recent breach of
Microsoft Security linked to
hackers based in China. Say the
hackers targeted Commerce
Secretary Gina Raimondo emails
beginning in May,
Adam Curry: you can have her
she's using what for the yucks?
What they try
John C Dvorak: and remember what
she wrote yesterday.
Adam Curry: Bill was Bill Gates
was just there. Hey, gee, Hey,
baby, you want access to Gina
Ron Mundos. You met at
Unknown: the castle protected
for about a month the State
Department confirms it was
targeted,
Adam Curry: saying it's a month
a month. What is swift action,
Unknown: we took immediate steps
to secure our system. immediate
steps to notify Microsoft of the
event. The incident remains
under investigation. And we
continuously monitor our
networks and update our security
procedures. Sure
cyber breach started just before
Secretary of State Antony
Blinken traveled to China in
June. And while the US Commerce
Department has been imposing
sanctions on Beijing,
then they head over 30 days
before it was even reported, and
almost another 30 days before it
was fully mitigated. So this is
a very long period of time to
gain access.
Sources say it appears likely
that the hackers got access to
high value class sources say
John C Dvorak: so they were
added and sources may be
conservative codec for all
practical purposes for 60 days,
two months. Yes, worth of State
Department valuable emails, that
kind of stuff that WikiLeaks
would be loved to have stuff
that they used to
Adam Curry: Ukraine was suffered
a strategic loss because that's
what the State Department
interest probably
John C Dvorak: sounded in there
about the Ukrainian war. This is
a disaster.
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, it's
just kind of played off. As you
know, hey, we we've alerted
Microsoft that their stuffs no
good
Unknown: provide information.
But the threat is growing. The
number of cyber attacks
affecting government
organizations Rose 95% In the
last half of 2022. Compared to
the previous year, stopping the
threat goes far beyond
protecting passwords. Experts
say it requires spotting
suspicious activity ahead of
time,
artificial intelligence and
machine learning can do all
right now we go instead of
detecting in 30 days, we should
have detected in 30
milliseconds. And if we could do
that, we have the ability to
stop these types of attacks.
Microsoft says email data from
25 organizations was exposed.
The Chinese government responded
to the reports overnight by
criticizing the US saying quote,
the US is the world's biggest
hacking empire.
Oh, yeah. Well, that's true.
John C Dvorak: But it's true.
But what's it got to do with
anything? That
Adam Curry: story, I think
somehow is related to this
story.
John C Dvorak: John Solomon, you
just broke news moments ago that
the Secret Service now is asking
to update lawmakers in a private
area tomorrow regarding the
cocaine and Joe Biden White
House. What does that mean? What
do you know,
Unknown: what signals there's
been a development in the
original timetable was for the
House Oversight Committee to be
briefed on the week of January
24. Today, they reached out to
the chairman comer asked to move
that up till 10am tomorrow so
10am Tomorrow in a skiff that's
a intelligence briefing room a
secure room normally reserved
for classified information.
lawmakers who have the
appropriate clearance can go in
and get a briefing on this. This
comes as we know that the Secret
Service was running fingerprints
and DNA analysis on the bag of
cocaine to see what evidence
they might be derived from it.
Lawmakers are scrambling they're
going to show up tomorrow. It's
going to be a very big day, but
moving it up signals that
there's been some foreign Have a
development in the
investigation?
Adam Curry: Yeah, Skiff Hello?
Oh, it's got to be secret
because you know, otherwise
China might know immediately if
they emailed it around. This is
This is fun. Nothing is fun.
This is really fun. It's a fun.
It's a fun little
John C Dvorak: bag that China
says for talking about him. I
want to have a couple clips this
China influence in the USA, this
is a I have his name written
down swords doesn't really
matter what he says more than
what we is. And this is
interesting.
Unknown: Well, the CCP the you
know, the under President Trump,
the FBI had a China project they
were they were going after
Chinese actors in the United
States. They are actively
investigating them and their
links to, you know, to American
citizens, American legislators,
etc. Biden stopped that he
canceled there. Well, that
should be reinvent should be
reinstituted straightaway.
John C Dvorak: Heaven forbid we
stop the Chinese from taking
over the places. Now part two is
later in this discussion. And I
thought it was interesting
because the first thing that
comes to mind to me is Eric
Swalwell. Who is on the
Intelligence Committee Langfang
you know,
Unknown: loyalty owes should be
brought back and security
clearances should be massively
amped up that very superficial
right now, you know, no other
country it will Russia or China
would never allow anybody who
had a proud American record to
become the head of the KGB or
the Chinese intelligence
services. So so this is
America's number one problem
massively lacks internal
security, no loyalty oaths, no
background checks. There's no
security checks on senators or
congressmen for serving on
committees. I think that should
be another thing that should be
done. Anybody who wants to serve
on a sensitive committee, you
want to serve up serve on
Homeland Security, services,
intelligence, you should have a
background check. You should
have a clearance for that.
Currently, there are no
clearances for those positions.
You have to get a clearance to
work in CIA, but not to hit the
the Senate Intelligence
Committee, or the House
Intelligence Committee. That's a
massive loophole in the system
that has to be closed.
Oh, no, an outrage wall wells
wall. Man,
Adam Curry: all right, I need to
do a little big farm. It'll be
my last and you can wind it up
with whatever you have. Because
there's trouble in paradise. And
the story they in the UK they've
started to investigate this. Now
it's wafted over to the United
States we have problems
Unknown: a new investigation
this morning into the safety of
ozempic and other drugs.
Regulators in Europe are looking
into a possible link between the
drugs and suicidal thoughts
after three people who use the
drugs reported thoughts of
suicide and self harm go to any
company that makes the drug says
studies found no such connection
for people have turned to
ozempic to lose weight, but it
was approved by the FDA to treat
diabetes.
Adam Curry: Now, before I played
the second clip, I want you to
know that Boris Johnson, former
Prime Minister of the United
Kingdom's has now become a
columnist for a leading
newspaper and see if I
John C Dvorak: can get his
everybody's trying to get into
the act.
Adam Curry: And he reviewed
ozempic By taking it he thought
that this would be the the
master drug for him this would
work perfectly, because you
know, he's fat.
John C Dvorak: And that guy, but
it looks like it looks like a
guy who knows how to be fat and
Adam Curry: he wrote a column
wonder drug I hoped would stop
my raves for cheddar and Cerrito
didn't work for me Daily Mail.
And here's the bit that I
thought was the best. So for
weeks, I jabbed my stomach and
for weeks it worked
effortlessly. I pushed aside the
puddings. And the second
helpings wasn't it amazing. I
said to myself, how how little
food you really need. I must
have been losing four or five
pounds a week, maybe more when
all at once it started to go
wrong. I don't know why exactly.
Maybe it was something to do
with constantly flying around
the world and changing time
zones. But I started to dread
the injections because they were
making me feel ill. One minute I
will be fine. The next minute I
will be talking to Ralph on the
big white phone.
John C Dvorak: Ralph, he's
talking about puking Yes,
Adam Curry: on the big white
foam and the big white phone of
a friend that heard that one in
decades. And I'm afraid that I
decided I couldn't go on. For
now I'm back to exercising
willpower but look at my
colleagues leaner but not
hungrier. And I hope that if
science can do it for them,
maybe one day it can help me and
everyone else. So just puking up
and There's a problem with
ozempic. And this problem of
suicidal thoughts, which if it
really was just three people who
reported Oh, I think I want to
kill myself. Would it be a big
story like that? No, I don't
think so. Time to bring in Dr.
Jen. Dr. Jen America saver
doctor is back as she's
America's favorite doctor. Just
so you know.
Unknown: Dr. Jenn, America's
favorite doctor is back. And
we've talked a lot about ozempic
And then last drugs, but now
there's this concerning news The
EU is investigating after there
have been suicidal thoughts
reported on these medications.
Yeah,
and so we want to do a deep dive
on this because of course, as
you said, this is such a popular
drug category, deep dive
worldwide, but here in the US as
well that this headline, listen
to
Adam Curry: this big pharma
prostitute. I'm sorry, I'm just
gonna say she is bought and paid
for is the right word. Dan,
thank you. Well, what was that
the wrong word? Yeah, horrible.
Unknown: Kind of getting a lot
of attention, in my opinion for
the wrong medical reasons. In
Europe in Iceland. There were
three reported cases of suicidal
thoughts in people taking
ozempic. So the EU is looking
into this. The drugmaker Novo
Nordisk is, of course, also
looking into brings up a bigger
issue of a term in medicine and
public health that we use called
background rate and background
incidence.
Adam Curry: So background rate
background incidents, this is
nothing to worry about. It's
background noise, you have
Unknown: to think of this as a
fraction, right? In the general
population. There's a background
rate of people, unfortunately,
every single day who have
suicidal thoughts, then there's
a background rate of people
taking these class of
medications, these GLP one
agonists, where they overlap, if
you think of like overlapping
circles, that's the area that's
of interest, right? We want to
know if it's not just an
observation or an observed
effect, but a cause and effect,
right, that the suicidal
thinking was actually caused by
these medications. Right now,
there's no evidence of that.
Because again, this is something
that occurs every single day.
But of course, with the
popularity of it, the more
people who take any drug, the
more even a rare risk of
something could be expected to
go up.
So is it reason to be concerned
because when I read the
headline, I was like, oh,
because everybody still don't
think
there's evidence right now that
there's reason to be concerned
for suicidal thinking of this
class of medication. But there
is always reason to be concerned
with the possibility of a rare
conversation about a Venn
diagram.
John C Dvorak: Nothing that you
layer off,
Adam Curry: it's all great to
worry about is background noise.
It's background rage. It's just,
I mean, of course, people take
our drugs that are already
suicidal from the other drugs
we're giving them. Hello. So
obviously suicidal
John C Dvorak: to take any of
them to begin with,
Adam Curry: Hey, we are
nominated for an award. Again,
again, when's the last time? Oh,
no. It if the American Liberty
awards. Okay, this is not just
some sub sub little podcast
award. These are broadcast
awards, who we are nominated in
the Best analyst broadcast
category. Well,
John C Dvorak: that's us. No, I
Adam Curry: thought so too.
We're up there with let's see.
Jay Dyer. I have no idea. Gerald
Cilenti Mike Adams, the health
Ranger.
John C Dvorak: Mike Adams.
Adam Curry: He's a best
broadcast.
John C Dvorak: He's not a Pete
Santilli merch anybody that's a
competitor
Adam Curry: especially not Sarah
Gonzalez. Who's Oh, she's like
she's a blaze girl.
Unknown: A Blaze girl is grown
Charlie Robinson.
Adam Curry: Yeah, we we have a
shot we ever and what's
interesting. They don't say no,
they don't give the show names.
They give the people name. So it
would be an actual personal
award for you and for me as
people. They have my middle
initial they do Adam curry and
John J HNSI. J
John C Dvorak: Jhansi.
Adam Curry: John Cena this John
C. Dvorak. They did it properly,
which is nice.
John C Dvorak: So I got two
clips to get us out. Okay. And
that is since you were talking
about farm, I got farmer clips.
And this was going on in
Congress. I have an app some
more clips about. This has been
fun. This has been great. The
next show, but this is fun. And
there's a lot of funny stuff.
And this is the COVID they're
older investigating COVID
mainstream media doesn't want to
cover this but it's online. You
can get these some of these
clips. Yeah. And here's a COVID.
It's about COVID origins. And
there's some funny stuff coming
up and here's clip one.
Unknown: The House Select
Subcommittee on the corona virus
pandemic is looking closely at
the origins of the CCP virus.
Yeah, for this hearing they
brought in the office.
Adam Curry: What news outlet
says CCP virus? What is this?
John C Dvorak: Let me think it
couldn't
Adam Curry: be
Unknown: this C is in D. D is
the peer reviewed article, the
proximal origin of SARS cov. Two
published in March 2020. It said
the virus most likely occurred
naturally and did not come from
a lab. One of the things
lawmakers keyed in on was that
both authors actually supported
the lab leak theory. Shortly
before the draft was published,
Representative Nicole
Malliotakis said this,
Dr. Garry went so far as to say,
quote, I really can't think of a
plausible natural scenario when
you get from the bat virus or
one very similar to it. So
COVID-19, where you insert
exactly four amino acids, 12
nucleotides, and all have to be
added at the exact same time to
gain this function. I just can't
figure out how this gets
accomplished in nature, unquote.
So then, within a matter of
days, something changed. And
that's what this committee is
trying to get to the bottom of
Professor Robert Geary explained
how his view of the origin of
the virus changed during that
time.
The scientific literature, you
know, the publication of the
Pangolin genomic sequence
exactly what my colleague Kara
brought up.
Yes, exactly. And it was a very
important piece of data, because
it showed that a lot of the
theories about you know, the
virus having been engineered or
put together in a laboratory
were not true, because here was
a virus in nature that had an
receptor binding domain with
exactly
Adam Curry: what a distraction
this interesting, but Okay, does
it get fun?
John C Dvorak: The next time I
have to eclipse the neck. The
point is, is that they were on
board of one theory. And then it
was like two days later, they
changed their complete opinion
based on one, some discussion
about pangolin de bas, and
Penguin. The Penguin was my
favorite poor venue pangolin.
And they still have I don't know
if they brought this up, but I
didn't listen to the whole
hearing what you think that day
to ask have you? Have you caught
the virus in the wild? Actually,
in an animal they dancers? No,
no,
Adam Curry: don't don't even
Don't even start with that. Stop
with your logic. And
Congressman,
Unknown: Dr. Rich McCormick, a
physician, which disputed the
theory that the virus came
naturally from a pangolin or any
other animal,
if it exists in the species, it
has to be able to propagate and
continue. It doesn't just go
away. It's not just found in the
same proximity of a species but
inside the species with
antibodies and resistance. To
say that it's just because it's
in the same area somewhere that
a dog was found, or a cat was
found, or a pig, or whatever you
want to say, is for me, just
like smear some COVID on this
wouldn't say, look, it came from
this would to give our people
who are watching this where
maybe not medical background to
understand that's obviously
impossible. Just like it's
impossible to have a virus that
exists inside of an animal
species go away, or not have any
sort of immune response or any
propagation, if that's where it
came from the beginning.
And Representative Rodney
Jackson, also a physician said
that you gathered
every bit of this new additional
information, which we don't know
exactly what it was or where it
came from. You completely
changed your hypothesis, you
collaborated with your co
authors, and you wrote the
proximal origins paper all in
that period of time. I just want
to know my time's up. But I just
want you to know that sounds
completely ridiculous to the
American people. And it's
the FBI and the Department of
Energy have both said that
COVID-19 likely came from a lab.
Adam Curry: Well, man, it's
taken me back years and years
ago, that's the first thing we
said is bullcrap. This, we know
this. Well, we wasn't
John C Dvorak: nice. It was the
French Nobel Prize writing.
Yeah.
Adam Curry: Is that guy when
John C Dvorak: he looked at the
sequence, and he said, This is
lab made, and there's HIV in
there, which they still don't
like to discuss. No. And he
says, this is just some lab
thing. And he had some thesis
about why it would have been
invented in the first place,
which was I thought generous on
his party thought it might be
some mechanism for vaccinations,
the creative back
Adam Curry: so using and I
thought that's very generous.
Yes.
John C Dvorak: And nothing is,
you know, some some would you
call germ warfare thing going
on, which is what it was. And by
the way, just to get just to
finish up, I just got to I did
get a note from right now. From
one of our listeners. Yes, that
brought up the Palm Island thing
which I Yes. Which you mentioned
I mentioned is probably the
source for
Unknown: limes, Miami's Lyme
disease. Yeah. And
John C Dvorak: producer Mike,
and he says, I grew up in
Montauk, New York, New York.
Plum Island was a short short
boat ride away. Everyone knew
limes was from that lab. It was
a biological weapons lab. It was
a small island only accessible
by boat with one building and
military security. Yeah, so the
locals all knew it. Yeah, limes
disease which is a plague in
this country. Thank you, US
government.
Adam Curry: Since I've recently
become a consumer of the
product, would you mind playing
us out with your kratom clip?
Because I have no idea what it
is. But I have recently been
given some some kratom that
John C Dvorak: oh, well this is
drink bankable. I just find that
on the list. Yes, this is a clip
that I'm not sure what the what
the point of it is. It has a it
has a cautionary tale at the
same time. Is it maybe a good
thing or a bad thing? Is I think
inconclusive, but play it
Adam Curry: well hold on a
second. So one of our producers
makes kratom himself and a
bottles it in, in beer bottles.
No. Of course not used. And he
has shipped us some and Tina and
I have both tried it. I find
that one bottle gives me a
pleasant a pleasant kind of body
buzz. Yeah, it's not and I was
very much they gave you some
energy to know didn't get any
energy. I was very skeptical. I
didn't really want to I mean
it's been sitting around for a
while but Texas slim came by
said you got kratom said yeah,
he says, Oh, I'll drink it. So I
watched him drink a bottle. And
after he did not keel over, I'm
like, Okay, I'll try it. And the
team doesn't really like it but
it tastes good. I would say it's
more like I said that horrible
stuff. People drink a Ken Bucha
she's like, you know, it's
fermented, but it doesn't taste
horrible. And it gives you a
pleasant buzz. I was pleasantly
surprised and that's why I'm
curious about your NT law. Here
John C Dvorak: we finished the
show.
Unknown: A drug called Kratom is
making headlines more and more
frequently, the mostly
unregulated drugs spreading
throughout America at nightclubs
and gas stations and on the
internet Gods now because of its
harmful effects. It's facing
regulation and wrongful death
lawsuit harmful effects.
Adam Curry: I can't wait to pop
open a bottle after the show
Unknown: NTDs fey quarter has
more kratom an herbal drug with
opioid like effects is spreading
across America.
There's like a very low key
euphoric feeling and also like a
boost in energy
Samer Fawaz is a former kratom
user who had been using it for
around six years, a friend
introduced him to the drug and
he bought it online in a
powdered form he would use it
regularly to get energy but for
laws later realized he was
becoming dependent on it
and when I got off of it, I felt
a significant withdrawals for a
few weeks. You know, major
stomach issues like low very low
grade depression and loss of
energy completely, like I had to
really re calibrate back to
normal
only after breaking the
addiction did he realize it had
been numbing his emotions and
causing him stomach problems now
that he's drug free, he says
it's amazing to not be
controlled by the need to use
substances. Luckily for was
didn't experience major side
effects, but others who have
used it in higher doses or in
combination with other drugs
have
side effects everything from
like nausea and diarrhea and
constipation. So a lot in the
digestive system area, and also
the nervous system. And it
sucks. Cognition memory
confusion. gait, gait, gate,
Adam Curry: come on this. This
is very odd, as you know what
it's probably because it's very
healthy and beneficial. These
reports come out. It's possible
this makes no sense. I'm gonna
have a bottle right after the
show. So if you don't hear from
me you know, it's a cranial
hospital is the kratom it's the
kratom Hey, that's it for no
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John C Dvorak: and from Northern
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and it probably ending in two
days.
Adam Curry: Your name is
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Adam Curry: until we meet again,
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Remember I said the
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Hui Hui, and such
Unknown: They want control of
everybody. Now what do they
want? They want fewer people.
They think it's already too
many. I think that's what
they've been saying in the
United Nations for a long time.
But the facts don't bear that
out because less and less people
are living in poverty and our
knowledge of agriculture is
growing our knowledge of
genetics is growing, and we're
able to grow way more food now
than we were then. And food is
the basis of how many people can
be here.
Adam Curry: I like that theory
just starves to death
Unknown: I said John C has the
best add ons for audio PRD short
session notes don't get the boys
P No jingles no karma keep it
short and sweet as a black man I
got some questions about black
Lindsey Graham handover in
itself cackalacky taken them
beating your How do you get
reelected? This guy is such a
sad when Trump in every sense
Russian services or is really
good news. That's what he said.
Never been a fan with this
manual Lindsey Graham. Trump
this and Biden doesn't really
know he's barely alive at 1% I
mean, his son Hunter got a
sweetheart of a deal the
election was the most secure in
US history and not a steal and
then he won run in 2014
excitement for him can even hide
at the end of the world is paid
to play by the Boulais I mean
going all in on the charm
offensive front a worldwide
phenomenon is this what you want
Adam Curry: so it seems to me
that they're just trying to
slowly kill everybody know what
The Population Bomb people have
been about since the 70s Yeah.
Unknown: Oh my god. Oh right
John C Dvorak: 3456
Going down deep before we went
any further is this particular
clip because it does bring out
an issue that I think is
floating around Canada is a sub
text around just like being in a
different domain it is like
being in a different dimension
you just float around and don't
cause trouble apparently people
are floating around at night
when you're in them fooling
around them whether you're in
him for a little short term or
long term around and so they're
floating around and they're
stringing we'd have telephone
poles around why is he was
floating around that's what I
thought the story was about I
got around just before we
started doing our show this
stuff was floating around
Unknown: Yes By the way Bibles
John C Dvorak: Bibles Bibles
parent Bibles baby that is right
get some cookies is called is
called physical
Unknown: models
Adam Curry: models very
difficult to stay sane. I smoke
a lot of weed and I do the show
so good. Christina curry Tina
the keeper Mimi JP adorable to
share the shield and the whole
curry DeVore acknowledge and
family
John C Dvorak: being a company
with the insane no agenda
Unknown: Mofo vorak.org/and
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