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September 17th, 2023 • 3h 4m

1591: Half-Jacked

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Adam Curry: Reading is good kids. Adam curry Jhansi Devorah
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for 1720 23 This is your award winning nation media
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assassination episode 1591. This is no agenda, making mascara run
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and broadcasting live from the heart of the country here in
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fingerings. Number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
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curry
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John C Dvorak: from Northern Silicon Valley where, you know,
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I thought hostess was out of business and they weren't making
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Twinkies anymore. I'm Jhansi, Dvorak
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Adam Curry: and Bushkill. Are you eating Twinkies now?
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John C Dvorak: No, but I noticed that the company was just sold
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for like $4 billion. And I thought they were out of
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business. And they were, you know, defunct years ago. Couple
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of two, three years ago. Twinkies are not going to be
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made any more houses out of business, though. Good. There
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goes those chocolate cupcakes.
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Adam Curry: That's funny. You mentioned that I kind of I
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remember something like that now. Not you say it. Twinkies.
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No, I have no clips on. Okay, well, that's great. So what else
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have you been working on? You've been down in the financial pits
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I hear.
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John C Dvorak: Yes. Sell buy. Actually,
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Adam Curry: now that you bring that up? Wow. Let me get this
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going. Right now I have. I have a pretend not that I have a
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stock tip. We don't do stock tips. But I think there is some
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information that has come out in the Wall Street Journal today.
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And also on the Wall Street Journal podcast, that can show
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us what companies we should be short selling, which if I
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understand the mechanism, when you sell short, then if the
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company stock goes down, you make money Correct?
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John C Dvorak: You sell that as sir? Is this like just reverse
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of what you'd normally do? You'd say you sell at 50 and you buy
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at 25?
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Adam Curry: Okay, I think any company that does the following
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is a shore sword short sell,
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Unknown: is feedback now too harsh, more companies are opting
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for a gentler term feed forward. Wall Street Journal reporter
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Alexandra Burwell joins me. So Alexandra, first of all, what's
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the difference between feedback and feed forward?
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The concept is not feed a friend
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Adam Curry: feed forward instead of feed back.
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Unknown: The idea is that feed forward gives people less
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anxiety. It's a little bit gentler. When people hear
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feedback, they think immediately what have I done wrong? What are
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the bad things my boss is going to tell me to fix? One thing
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that we heard over and over was that during COVID, you know,
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employees weren't having regular review sessions. Everything was
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virtual. After the pandemic, when more people came back to
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work. Companies sort of changed their approach to HR and
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management. They rethought the review process and really
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decided that it was important to make the entire process more
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productive. And in fact it just to
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be clear, are we talking about just a renaming of what we've
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come to know as feedback or do these efforts include?
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Adam Curry: It gets better some companies are actually doing
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this already
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Unknown: changing the actual tone and nature of feedback type
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conversations.
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It depends on the company introducing the term and
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revamping its review process. Some argue that just replacing
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the word with feed forward or Microsoft, they use
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perspectives. And other terms, there is a danger in really just
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glossing over the idea that feedback negative or positive is
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important. rebranding doesn't really do much. But there's also
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a number of companies that are rethinking the entire process.
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And as part of that, they want employees to feel more
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comfortable in the process. And therefore they feel that
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rethinking the words they use, replacing feedback with feed
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forward reviews with connect sessions, and also having
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sessions more often, you know, between managers and employees.
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Truly makes for a more productive and effective
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workplace. John,
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Adam Curry: I need to connect session. I need the connection.
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John C Dvorak: We need to connect session sessions
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overdue.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, any company that employs these tactics is
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going to lose. This says
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John C Dvorak: Microsoft of course would be involved. Yeah,
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the other ones he got sucked into this stack ranking bullcrap
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which really hurt the company for years. We
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Adam Curry: haven't talked about that in a long time. Still
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around. Yeah, no, it wasn't just Microsoft. I thought it was once
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it all snow everybody.
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John C Dvorak: There was a big trend for a while as Jack
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Welch's invention.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, stack ranking. Oh, there's
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Unknown: no winning. We don't like to foster a competitive
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atmosphere but we laugh a lot. Now everyone hog and share a
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secret.
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Adam Curry: Now it's interesting because this this podcast came
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out today I read the article. The article is even worse. It's
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filled with all kinds of terms There was this interest kind of
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polarizing the
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John C Dvorak: Wall Street Journal think it's doing it's
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supposed to be a newspaper. What did they think that they're
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Harvard Business Review trying to establish certain norms and
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how businesses run. These are reporters that don't know how to
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run a business. Hello?
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Adam Curry: Well, if you if you can't do you teach, there was a
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guy that kind of got viral on, on on X on the socials maybe two
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weeks ago, and even some, some Magga country people sent it to
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me saying that this guy has the wrong idea. I don't know if they
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if they wonder if they understood what he was saying.
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Because he was What are you saying is very polarizing. This
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is a Tim Garner. And this is a report from the hills
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Unknown: have workers become the bosses. That's what Gartner
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Group founder, Tim Gardner seems to believe. And he told
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Financial Review property summit workers that this is a problem
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that needs to change.
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I think the problem that we've had is that we've, you know, we
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have people decided they didn't really want to work so much
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anymore through COVID. And that has had a massive issue on
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productivity, you know, traders have definitely pulled back on
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productivity. You know, they they have been paid, it paid a
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lot to do not too much in the last few years. And we need to
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see that change. We need to see unemployment rise, unemployment
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has to jump 40 50% In my view, we need to see pain in the
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economy, we need to remind people that they work for the
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employer, not the other way around.
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Wow, unemployment has jumped 40 50% When an admission
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governor also said we have to hurt the economy to end the
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arrogance among workers.
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Adam Curry: This is really interesting, because I I agree
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that the workers are out of control. And this pandering such
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as we just heard is bad. It's just it's biblically bad. You
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know, you you need
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John C Dvorak: our shows been dramatic about this point with
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the noodle boy,
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Adam Curry: yes, yes. However, some people thought that his
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solution was just a horrible idea. And I'm like,
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John C Dvorak: Well, that's all go broke. That'll fix things.
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Adam Curry: It's not exactly what the Federal Reserve
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John C Dvorak: property there you go. There's a solution to
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everything.
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Adam Curry: Well, I think they're well on their way. I
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mean, poverty is on deck. I mean, to me, it seems like the
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West, the United States in Europe with with the immigration
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that's taking place is like we're going to become the slaves
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who make I think manufacturing may come back to the US into the
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into Western Europe.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, thank you for manufacturing. Yes.
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Adam Curry: We'll be we'll be the slaves. And then we'll have
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our own Uyghurs which will be the illegal immigrants. This is
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happening in Chicago this finally finally people are
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waking up.
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Unknown: In heights Church of Christ and open dialogue on the
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migrant crisis hosted by Alderman Ronnie Mosley was
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packed inside and out.
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First of all, they definitely chose those venue for a reason
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they chose a small venue so that they could discourage the
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community from being able to show
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up with fall and winter fast approaching. Mayor Brandon
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Johnson is looking to move migrants from police stations
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into what the city is calling winterized base camps.
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This is essentially like a bandaid to a gunshot wound. You
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are putting a BandAid on a huge problem at hand
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one potential site two former jewel parking lot at 115. And
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Halstead
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does a bad idea. They want to push
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this out of sight, out of mind.
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But it's coming with pushback, many calling on the city's
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leaders to focus on the needs of taxpayers. We are
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the residents of this community. And we demand that they do not
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put these people here. They're not following the rules in the
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police station. What makes us think that they're going to
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follow the rules here.
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Residents tell us they are in need of grocery stores mental
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health facilities and housing for homeless individuals. By the
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end of this year, the migrant crisis will have cost taxpayers
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a quarter of a billion dollars.
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Adam Curry: I like calling it winter Basecamp. Just branding.
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You're welcome here. The winter base camp y'all call to get some
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Chicago migrants
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John C Dvorak: cold there. Play it play the New York Immigration
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clips. Number one
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Adam Curry: oh yeah, no. This is beautiful.
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Unknown: tensions rose today in Manhattan over the immigration
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crisis. Lawmakers tried to address the issue, but they were
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met with frustrated protesters. And it is Jason Perry was on the
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scene.
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Representative Alexandria Ocasio Cortez along with other
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lawmakers address the immigration crisis in New York.
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City, but they were quickly disrupted by protesters shouting
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close the border. Ocasio Cortez continued speaking outside of
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Roosevelt Hotel in Manhattan, which has been used to process
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illegal immigrants. She called for more federal resources to
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help deal with the crisis, a man in the crowd voiced his
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frustration to the lawmakers.
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How's that gonna unity to the station, when you take when
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you're taking care of illegal immigrants, only your own
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citizens?
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We spoke to some people in the area to see what they think is
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the solution to the migrant crisis,
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close the border. The only solution a genius remain in
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Mexico like the policy was before. Why does my family
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member have to wait in Colombia and they filed a legal petition.
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And these people are right here on 45th Street,
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and another man voiced his concern. It's not
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right. You have to come through the proper channels. There's
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people that are waiting to get here. And they're skipping the
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line and they don't care. We don't know who these people are.
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Did not vet it. Many of my ex girlfriends were from other
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countries. So this is not about hate.
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Adam Curry: It's not about hey, I had sex with them. It's not
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about hey, take
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John C Dvorak: my many X Men, many, many girlfriends.
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Adam Curry: I think we should call them Neo wiegers. That
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should probably be the the new term because that's all there
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going to be with AOC Why might I want to remind everybody, she
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auditioned for this role? She auditioned for this role. We
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always present the actress, an actress and not a great one. She
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auditioned and has been MK altered into repeating talking
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points. And she even asked if you have it talked about a path
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to citizenship
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John C Dvorak: for these well I clip in the series, but the
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problem is is that they would they had her talking and it was
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so noisy with over with people yelling at her. Did you try to
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bet in that last clip? I cut out two chunks of it because of that
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it's too much issue. They can't she can't get a word in palace.
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Adam Curry: How's the Adobe product? Did that work? Did you
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try the
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John C Dvorak: Oh no, it was beyond Adobe. This was just like
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a cacophony of venture was a mess.
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Unknown: And this man explained that it wasn't fair to the low
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income families living in New York City,
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they have congestion pricing in the city. Well, you're gonna
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have to pay $20 to drive it to monad. How are the low income
12:21
families supposed to survive? How are we supposed to raise our
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kids? Why everyone gets everything for free. There's not
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two systems of justice in this country.
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We also heard from an immigrant who recently arrived in New York
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City
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where we never imagined none of the immigrants that we were
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going to be received like this. Nonetheless, I am grateful.
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Protestors and politicians both made their voices heard today.
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This is clearly an issue that will continue to demand national
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attention.
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Adam Curry: Finally, at O'Hare, there's 400 Neo wiegers in the
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airport,
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John C Dvorak: by the way, kudos to Abbott.
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Unknown: Yeah, yeah.
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John C Dvorak: I mean, it it took a long time. He'd been he's
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been shipping them out for what six months to a year. Quite a
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while. Yeah, for quite a while. It's finally caught up to
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everybody. Okay,
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Adam Curry: yeah, but it's it's so sad that it had to come to
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this. It's just these are people that human beings. Now it's like
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what is how stupid is this?
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John C Dvorak: Well, this is going on the latest thing going
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on in Europe. Did you see this sit down with Van der Leyen and
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marketer alone. He's sitting next to each other and
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Adam Curry: and the Dutch Prime Minister decomissioned
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Margarita. What is that guy doing there? Yes, I saw it.
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John C Dvorak: Those two women do not get along?
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Adam Curry: Well, I'm not sure if I was talking to Willow and
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my my niece and my nephew. And they are like me and Maloney is
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she's just another one of the elite. She's not the youngest.
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There's nothing that she's going to do. She talked a big game
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when she was coming in or when she wanted to get in. So and and
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also, they say that the migrant issue in Italy at least isn't
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all that bad. Even though the Lampedusa is made to look really
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really horrible. They say that it's not really being felt but
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now they're they're in there and Firenza you know is this for
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different Italy so that they maybe they just don't minimum to
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get they got the minimum different different vibe there.
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But yeah, yeah. I mean, how much I mean, the Netherlands. People
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are sick of it.
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John C Dvorak: There's this is interesting, though, that this
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is a as we've noticed with the COVID and some other incidences
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are universal. These are worldwide. Yes, phenomena,
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coordinated by someone.
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Adam Curry: And I don't know if you saw this but Zelinsky You
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know, the actor from Ukraine, he came out and he said, You know,
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I see that not everybody is with us. And you know, we have a lot
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of Ukrainians now all over Europe. And here it is, Western
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governments could face defeat at the ballot box. You know,
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because the Ukrainian refugees, you know, they're gonna vote,
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and they're gonna go in, they're gonna vote you out. If our
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partners do not help us, it means they want Russia to win.
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And this is how crazy you this has become.
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John C Dvorak: This guy has been threatening the west with one
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thing after another and we keep putting up with it. That's why I
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posted a photo of the of one of the stories in the current
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edition of current affairs, where they're hinting of a pull
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out that we're going to give up on the on the Ukrainian Yeah,
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Adam Curry: good. Can you want to give us a synopsis other than
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they're hinting at a pull out? What was nice
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John C Dvorak: was basically the synopsis in foreign affairs. In
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foreign affairs. Is the magazine produced by the Council on
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Foreign Relations? This? Yes. And so they it's like sometimes
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it's signaling you don't know what messaging of some sort. And
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they say, in the article Kyiv should be prepared for a sudden
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pull back by the West and so in support, because they make the
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point that people are getting sick of this. And I think that
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and they're getting sick as Alinsky.
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Adam Curry: Well, what's going on in London right now speaks a
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whole different story about what's happening in Ukraine
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because it is a capital B bonanza.
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Unknown: This year, it's bigger than ever. Nearly 3000 companies
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have turned up to London's Excel Center. Over 100 countries have
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sent delegations. If you're looking to expand and modernize
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your country's armed forces. This is the place to be. The war
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in Ukraine exerts a strong influence. The country has his
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own stand. But the conflict is also shaping the priorities of
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the global arms industry, much in evidence or drones of all
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sizes and capabilities. And given their success on the
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battlefield systems to defeat them are now a priority for
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everyone
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in our market, we can see everyday on the battlefield that
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drones used every day in huge quantities. That is the threat
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we are addressing with our products, we we have developed
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the top notch control system to secure Ukrainian forces as well
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as Polish and NATO forces.
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The war is also underlined the importance of things some
17:48
thought were no longer needed. Tanks, long range artillery and
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shells to train us is 7000 a day. Global inventories are
17:58
running low. So production is ramping up. The war in Ukraine
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is also changing government spending priorities. defense
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budgets are going up everywhere. Armed Forces are being
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reconfigured. Challenges. That means billions of dollars worth
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of defense contracts are up for grabs.
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Adam Curry: Billions are up for grabs. In this they are selling
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now literal directed energy weapons to bring down these
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drones. zap them out of the sky. And we knew this is what Erica
18:35
Eric Schmidt was talking about. Remember he was on with Zaccaria
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like God drones drones. That's the future. It's these little
18:41
drones little drones. And there it is a whole conference 300
18:45
different country. Exhibitors all selling drones and drones.
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It's this is and it's just like everyone's like, Oh, this is
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cool. It's great. Yeah, arms. Cool. It wasn't not Smedley
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Butler who said more is a racket.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, it was General Smith, General Smedley
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Butler
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Adam Curry: and it is a an enormous racket. Yeah, what else
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what a scam. And every no one has is I guess everyone's just
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all pacified. Sitting at home. Do we don't we don't notice the
19:22
the writer strike or the actor strike? There's plenty of good
19:25
stuff on Netflix. There's plenty of stuff to watch. No. Has
19:28
anyone complained that the late night shows are off the air. Has
19:32
anyone missed
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John C Dvorak: this one at all? To some incredible
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Adam Curry: degree like wow, the
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John C Dvorak: guys are complaining the guy that worked
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there.
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Adam Curry: Wow. Yeah. And did you see that? They're trying to
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get rid of Kimmel like Oh, well. Some kind of report came out.
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He's drunk. Hello. That we had boots.
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John C Dvorak: Fallon.
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Adam Curry: Fallon. I'm sorry. Yep. Sorry. We had boots on the
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ground reporting that when he went in. Oh, he's hammered every
19:56
day. He's hammered. Yeah, yeah, this is
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John C Dvorak: This is like the real race you want to get rid of
20:02
because he wasn't toeing the line with anti Trump jokes.
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Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. True. Speaking is pretty dahlias
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John C Dvorak: job tried to try to maintain a middle ground with
20:12
his with his political humor, while the other two guys are
20:15
just slamming. Kimmel if I remember when Trump was in
20:18
office, I was literally crying on the stage. About how bad
20:23
Trump was. I remember that. Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, here's a comedy
20:28
show by the way. Yeah, Trump's bad he's hurting children. He's
20:32
got to go we shouldn't have a president like this ridiculous
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recall
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Adam Curry: comedy show Saturday Night Live opening with the
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Ukrainian national anthem. Yeah, now the real humor is on tick
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tock people. That's where it's funny that's what people are
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watching low mood book. Tina sat down on the couch he said Let's
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watch some reels. She doesn't we don't have tick tock but she's
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let's watch them reels
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John C Dvorak: me do wave stop with me don't have tick tock is
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on the line. It's on the web.
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Adam Curry: Yes, but I don't have it on my phone. She doesn't
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have it on her phone.
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John C Dvorak: I don't either. And I watch it all the time. I'm
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sorry to hear that. You know what's funny, by the way, just
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should mention this. Just first, so people should know. I use a
21:21
VPN most of the time on my machine. It's just safer. And I
21:26
use VPNs out of South American countries because there's a
21:30
couple are just so fast. It's like you wouldn't even know
21:32
you're on a VPN. So when I'm on an Argentinian VPN and I just
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happen to hit tic tac with not as a sign on but just as I'm now
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looks to tic tac like I'm in Argentina. They have the same
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dipshit girls in Spanish. During those stupid dances they do well
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yeah, that's
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Adam Curry: what tick tock is tick tock. Why you
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John C Dvorak: What is it what why are you doing this you're
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making you look like an idiot.
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Adam Curry: Do you understand the mechanisms of tick tock?
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Tick tock is the music industry. It is literally the music
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industry. There's so much money to be made. If you are a
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successful tick tock dancer, or whatever you've created on tick
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tock you can make real money this is and probably no surprise
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Turning
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Unknown: now to tick tock and the European regulators slapping
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the social media app with a nearly $370 million fine,
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accusing the Chinese own platform to failing to protect
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children's privacy. Alexis christoforous joins us now with
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that. Good morning, Alex. Oh, yes. Alexis Kumar.
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Good morning NGO that investigation by Ireland's data
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protection commission finds the sign up process for teams made
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their tick tock accounts public by default, allowing anyone to
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view and comment on their videos. It also allowed adults
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to direct messaging for teams without their consent.
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teens want?
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Adam Curry: Yes, it's softcore porn. It's borderline cruelty
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against animals in most cases, funny but cruelty against
23:06
animals. And yes, that's what they want it Yes, it is weird.
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Teens search on Tik Tok. No one goes to Google anymore. Finally
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Unknown: direct messaging for teams without their consent, and
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a statement Tiktok saying we respectfully disagree with the
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decision, particularly the level of the fine imposed. It is the
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latest in a global crackdown on tick tock in the US and public
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universities, as well as many state and federal agencies have
23:34
banned the app on their devices out of concern. It would give
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China access to sensitive user data. And Montana passed a law
23:41
that bans the apps use in the state all together and it's not
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just tick tock Instagram WhatsApp and the owner Mehta
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among the tech giants hit with Big fines by the Irish
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regulator.
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Adam Curry: So the EU playing a big game oh yeah, we understand
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how this works is that China's gonna get it all tick tock, bad,
24:00
bad. But listen, how the queen of the European Union, you know,
24:05
where is Queen Ursula? How much she understands the topic of AI.
24:10
I mean, artificial intelligence. This is the future. And she
24:14
really, that she is she is accepting artificial
24:18
intelligence into her life.
24:19
Unknown: I believe in the power of artificial intelligence. Just
24:25
look at the winner of last year's future unicorn award
24:29
party from Denmark. They are using AI and voice recognition
24:33
to help doctors predict heart attacks. It's simply amazing,
24:37
amazing. And indeed, the possibilities of AI are immense.
24:42
I don't have to tell you AI can turn on wind turbines and can
24:47
produce more energy as the weather changes for
24:50
Adam Curry: Wow, AI can detect a weather change and turn on
24:53
winter being sampled.
24:55
Unknown: AI can detect the Cybertech faster than any human
24:58
being.
24:58
Adam Curry: Yeah. What about MGM?
25:01
Unknown: And as a medical doctor, I know that AI can also
25:03
for example, in mammography way earlier, and more reliably than
25:11
any human being.
25:12
Adam Curry: So the EU if I didn't know she was a medical
25:14
doctor, actually, or at least not one that's qualified to
25:17
speak about demography. So the EU is doing the same thing here
25:22
in the US. And they're lining everybody up and getting
25:25
everybody together in the setting all up because they want
25:28
to control it. They want to make AI your new god. And an AI is
25:33
right. And AI is smart, and AI does everything and I could not
25:36
resist seaspan got Elon Musk for one minute statement, which is
25:42
much better audio than anything we've had so far outside of the
25:45
tech, the private tech meeting where they were divvying up
25:48
something. I think it's very telling what he's saying here.
25:52
Unknown: I think it was, it was very nice discussion. Actually.
25:56
I'm on some of the smartest people in the world.
25:58
Adam Curry: Okay, let's stop right there. Can we stop saying
26:02
that these are some of the smartest people in the world?
26:06
They're not the smartest people in the world. They run
26:09
profitable companies. They're businessmen. Yeah, that are
26:13
that. Does that make them the smartest people?
26:15
John C Dvorak: No, generally speaking, when you're new, and
26:17
you were in college, in the olden days, the business guys
26:21
were the dummies, the dummies would go into business. The
26:24
smart guys are theoretical physicists. None of these guys
26:29
are that.
26:30
Adam Curry: So he says it was very civilized. Not sure why
26:34
he's saying it's civilized, maybe that can only be because
26:38
there was money to be made. And these are some of the smartest
26:41
people in the world, which he of course, conveniently includes
26:44
himself in this group.
26:47
Unknown: Some of the smartest people in the world. So I
26:50
thought Senator Schumer did a great
26:55
Adam Curry: job. Now listen to what he's saying. I did not
26:57
bring it
26:58
John C Dvorak: I can understand it, where he's saying he's
26:59
mumbling. You're talking over it.
27:02
Adam Curry: Senator Schumer did great to hear Senator Schumer
27:07
did a great service to humanity here. So he's sucking up to
27:13
Schumer for some reason,
27:15
Unknown: along with the rest of the Senate. And I think we'll I
27:20
think something good will come of this. This, I think this
27:22
Adam Curry: history has been very important for this meeting
27:25
is going to go down in history is very, very important.
27:28
Unknown: The future of civilization. did ask everyone
27:32
to raise their hands in the room to see if they were in favor of
27:36
AI regulation. And I believe almost everyone did.
27:39
Adam Curry: Now this is interesting, because you keep
27:41
hearing that Schumer asked Is everyone in favor of AI
27:45
regulation. And you keep hearing almost everyone did who didn't?
27:49
Who didn't? Who was not for this? I'd like to run
27:55
John C Dvorak: to try to get in it. You know, AI? You we know
27:58
that regulation is the keep people out fixed prices. Yeah,
28:03
Unknown: that's a good sign. I think the probability of there
28:04
being some sort of regulatory agency that stands on its own,
28:08
similar to the FA or FCC is likely at some point. And the
28:15
reason that I've been such an advocate for AI safety in
28:18
advance of sort of anything terrible happening is that I
28:21
think the consequences of AI going wrong are severe. So we
28:27
have to be proactive rather than reactive.
28:30
Adam Curry: So let's talk about the cases of AI being severe,
28:33
you don't need AI to be severe. And I only just heard about this
28:38
case. In Australia, it's very similar to what happened with
28:43
the the Dutch Child Care Benefit scandal, which which the cabinet
28:48
resigned over because they essentially Brandin algo, on on
28:54
taxes and returns and social social payments. And they went
29:01
to 10s of 1000s of parents and said Now you receive too much
29:05
too many child benefits. You owe us 50,000 euros, and this made
29:10
people lose their jobs, their homes, some people committed
29:13
suicide. This seems to be some kind of trend. Amongst the world
29:20
is Australia had something very similar known as Robo debt,
29:25
which happened four years ago. And it's just now coming to
29:28
light.
29:29
John C Dvorak: It was wrong. It was illegal. It should never
29:33
have happened and it should never happen again. Under the
29:38
former Liberal government, this scheme unlawfully raised $1.76
29:44
billion in alleged debts against some 526,000 Australians. This
29:54
tragedy cause stress, anxiety, financial destitution, And sadly
30:01
had a very real human toll. For more than four years, liberal
30:06
ministers dismissed or ignored the significant concerns that
30:10
were raised over and over again, including in the parliament, but
30:16
also by victims by public servants by community
30:20
organizations. And, of course, legal experts. The Royal
30:24
Commission has found that liberal party's robardet scheme
30:27
was, quote, a crude and cruel mechanism, neither fair nor
30:33
legal. And it made many people feel like criminals. In essence,
30:39
people were traumatized on the off chance they might owe money.
30:44
It was a costly failure of public administration, in both
30:48
human and economic terms.
30:51
Adam Curry: So now that I see this happening, and I'm sure
30:53
there will be other countries that had similar things take
30:55
place, could this be a setup to bringing in the smartest people
31:01
in the world to have this done? Right. You know what I mean? I
31:08
Unknown: don't think so. No. And I'm gonna do that
31:13
Adam Curry: while governments are deploying this. This is what
31:16
the IRS in the United States is deploying they've, they've
31:19
announced it, we're going to run
31:21
John C Dvorak: Robo ai ai. Yeah. But that's just that's not going
31:24
to be for this. What's the difference? And then I gotta do
31:28
it. Anyway. Good day. It doesn't work. They?
31:32
Adam Curry: Yes, they are, of course, they're going to do it.
31:35
In fact, I have. I have a where's it I think I have a
31:38
boots on the ground report about this. Was this. One of our one
31:45
of our producers had this happen to them? I may not have it
31:50
handy. The the crux of it is they have a company that I think
31:56
brings in $50,000 a year and the IRS hit them up for $500,000 in
32:02
unpaid taxes, which was run automatically and they can't
32:06
even get anyone to pick up the phone. And listen to him.
32:16
John C Dvorak: Well, that doesn't make a lot of
32:18
Adam Curry: here it is here it is. Just wanted to chime in and
32:20
confirm your contention that the tax debt over 250,000 scam is
32:24
just trying to squeeze small business. To make it short. My
32:27
wife and I have a very small business that processes
32:29
transactions online, we make around 50k a year in taxable
32:33
income on this business, the IRS had an automated system that
32:36
decided we owed them 500,000 plus dollars for tax year 2021.
32:41
They decided this and 2023 it was clearly some type of
32:45
algorithm they applied to us and it's impossible to even speak to
32:48
a human about this and try to get it resolved. Explain that we
32:51
literally make 1/10 the amount each year that they claim we Oh
32:56
yeah, that it doesn't make sense. But it's happening.
33:00
John C Dvorak: But it doesn't make sense because you can get a
33:02
hold of the IRS. No, I've never heard it. You can't get a hold
33:08
of the IRS and go to their arms Busman program. There's a
33:12
million ways to getting a hold of the IRS. We just had a
33:15
situation with the IRS ourselves. And Mimi had no
33:18
trouble getting a hold of an IRS person though to work on this.
33:22
Oh, maybe they
33:23
Adam Curry: should reach out to me, me me me has powers.
33:26
John C Dvorak: Yeah, it's called dialing a phone.
33:28
Adam Curry: I'm just telling you what they're saying.
33:30
John C Dvorak: I understand what they're saying. I'm just saying
33:33
that doesn't make sense. Because I've never had trouble getting
33:35
ahold the IRS.
33:37
Adam Curry: Maybe. Maybe you have credentials that we're all
33:40
unaware of.
33:41
John C Dvorak: No, you call a number. Just phone numbers. You
33:44
can call? Yes, I know,
33:45
Adam Curry: John. I know. I'm just telling you. They may have
33:48
been able to get a hold of them, but maybe they couldn't help
33:51
them. I mean, I during the pandemic, you certainly couldn't
33:54
get a hold of anyone that's different.
33:58
John C Dvorak: But this is very resolvable.
34:01
Adam Curry: I sure hope so. They seem to be frustrated by the
34:05
process. By the way. Just as an aside speaking of the smartest
34:09
people in the world, Kara Swisher. Without a doubt one of
34:15
the smartest people in the world. One of our producers
34:19
asked her a question on tick tock and she answered.
34:22
John C Dvorak: Tick tock, tick tock
34:25
Adam Curry: on X on x. Hey, Kara. I'm a big fan of pivot. My
34:34
hate Listen, I've heard Jhansi Dvorak referred to you as his
34:38
protege many times he seems to be very proud of this fact. How
34:42
big of an impact did Devora have on your career?
34:47
John C Dvorak: You did this?
34:48
Adam Curry: No, I didn't do it. Matt FFLs. Did it is one of our
34:52
producers. I didn't do this. Would you like to hear her
34:55
answer? Because she answered.
34:57
John C Dvorak: I'm dying. I'm sure she said Hey, wait, wait,
35:00
let me guess. Let me guess. Dvorak who
35:04
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no, no, she was she acknowledges you
35:07
with I'm not really. But he had a good show back in the day.
35:15
That sounds right. I'm a protege of Walt Mossberg. Oh, okay.
35:20
There you go. That makes sense. I just thought it was great that
35:25
she answered, because she's probably irked that we're always
35:28
busting her chops.
35:30
John C Dvorak: I don't think she knows that we even do a show she
35:33
does. She does she does now there's no no chance. She does.
35:40
Adam Curry: I've even I've even once I think I sent a slash on X
35:45
to Prof. G and said I was my favorite hate listen, and he
35:49
replied, thanks. I think they know they No, come on. They're
35:55
in the business of tech podcasts. How could they not be
35:58
listened to the no agenda show? Where you know do tech did we do
36:01
we do all kinds of tech? We know everything about tech. What did
36:04
we just do about AI? That's tech.
36:09
John C Dvorak: I guess it is.
36:10
Adam Curry: We know more about tech than those jokes. Well,
36:13
that's beside the point. All they know is how to moan and
36:17
groan about Elon Musk the head horrible he is
36:21
John C Dvorak: Oh boo she I don't know like I still like to
36:24
I like people in the in the media that hate musta hit on
36:29
Musk like It's like there's no tomorrow I'd like an
36:31
explanation. When we know the
36:33
Adam Curry: explanation. No, we don't. He took away their tool.
36:36
They're the the tool of Twitter. Yes, the tool of Twitter which
36:42
they they
36:42
John C Dvorak: use this they started hating on must before he
36:45
took over Twitter that just closed the deal. Once he once he
36:52
flipped you know, this is I guess my thesis is gonna stick.
36:56
Stick to this. The Democratic Party is a cult.
37:01
Adam Curry: Wow. Wow. Everybody stop what you're doing.
37:05
John C Dvorak: Once you quit the party, they go after Yeah. Like
37:10
a cult does.
37:11
Adam Curry: Oh, that's a reasonable idea.
37:14
John C Dvorak: And reason and people in the Republican Party.
37:16
They quit the Republican Party. I mean, I have and nobody cares.
37:20
Oh, yeah. Okay, whatever. What is you now libertarian? Yeah, as
37:24
what he says. But the Democrats you quit the Democratic Party if
37:28
you're involved, especially if you have a lot of money like
37:32
Trump did. You quit the party and start to do anything else?
37:36
And they're all over? Yeah.
37:38
Adam Curry: Well, did you see what happened to John Weiner?
37:43
Unknown: This you see,
37:45
John C Dvorak: John, when I did I saw it happen to yawn when or
37:48
do you see what happened to do it? Now? We're bringing this up
37:50
to just see what happened to what's his name to British guy
37:53
Adam Curry: Russell Brand. I
37:54
John C Dvorak: have a clearer so brand guy killed. Well, first,
37:56
let me explain what not literally, but both figurative
38:00
but let's start with
38:01
Adam Curry: Yan winner. Sean Weiner, who started Rolling
38:05
Stone magazine became a super, super uber lefty, I would say.
38:10
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And he was just as an example of that, is
38:15
he pretty much has the veto power over the Rock and Roll
38:19
Hall Hall of Fame. Yeah, had and we will not allow a number of
38:26
people to be in it, even though they should have been in it
38:29
years ago.
38:30
Adam Curry: Yes. Well, he has been ousted from the Rock and
38:33
Roll Hall of Fame board. Because he wrote a book. And he did an
38:39
interview with The New York Times. And in and he's and the
38:43
question was asked, Well, why didn't you have more women in
38:46
your book? Why don't you have more people of color? Or
38:49
John C Dvorak: a woman a woman? Why do you have a woman in the
38:54
book or a black musician?
38:56
Adam Curry: And he said you know, they're just they they
39:00
dumb? It was worse. He said in The Times interview with winner
39:07
that published on Friday he said that black and also female
39:10
musicians quote, didn't articulate at the level of the
39:13
white male musicians in his classic it's not that they're
39:18
not creative geniuses. It's just that they're inarticulate.
39:21
Although go have a deep conversation with glade gray
39:24
slick or Janis Joplin. Please be my guest you know Joni Mitchell
39:28
was not a philosopher of rock and roll she didn't in my mind
39:31
meet that test not by her work not by other interview she did.
39:35
The people I interviewed were the kind of philosophers of rock
39:37
of black artists well you know Stevie Wonder genius right.
39:40
Suppose me use the word use the word is brought us masters. The
39:43
fault is using that word maybe Marvin Gaye Curtis Mayfield? I
39:46
mean, they just didn't articulate at that level. But
39:49
Pete Townsend Oh, hold on. Water canard. And then he said, You
39:57
know, I guess I'm old fashioned. I should have probably put one
40:00
woman and one black person in there but um, you know, I don't
40:03
care. Well,
40:05
John C Dvorak: this is the classic leftist.
40:08
Adam Curry: Okay
40:10
John C Dvorak: devs hypocrites. Yeah.
40:14
Adam Curry: So the Russell Brand thing is interesting
40:16
John C Dvorak: anyway, just finish the winner thing he's
40:19
He's been our scores created for this,
40:22
Adam Curry: that while the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame sent a
40:24
statement, Yan Venner has been removed from the board of
40:26
directors of the Rock Roll Hall of Fame Foundation, and they
40:30
have no further comment. And then when are of course issued a
40:34
statement in my interview with The New York Times and made
40:37
comments that dismiss the contributions, genius and impact
40:40
of black and women artists, I apologize wholeheartedly for
40:43
those remarks. The Masters is a collection of interviews I've
40:46
done over the years that seemed to me best represent an idea of
40:50
Rock and roll's impact on the world. They were not meant to
40:52
represent the whole of music and as diverse and important origins
40:56
but reflect the high points of my career and interviews I felt
40:59
illustrate the breadth and experience in that career Mee
41:02
Mee Mee Mee Mee now he's done he's done is great. He's done.
41:10
So the the brand thing is interesting. I started getting
41:13
emails like hey, channel four just preempted its normal
41:17
lineup. So this was this was not a planned show. This was they
41:24
they preempted whatever is normally running and ran this 90
41:27
minute program which accuses and I think it's because it leaked
41:34
out and he got some emails and the day before he did a YouTube
41:38
and he said hey, this is this is not right I'm I'm being
41:42
railroaded because I have a different message and and I have
41:48
like a minute, which really shows you what kind of a hit job
41:52
this was. Nobody can talk about the validity of it. But the hit
41:55
job is a beautiful piece they edited and they use this as the
42:00
trailer. This is inappropriate probably for young ears. But
42:04
here is a piece from Channel Four is Russell Brand. expose a
42:10
I phoned
42:11
Unknown: and somebody that's what it was regarding. And I was
42:15
said that's regarding Russell Brand being a sex offender.
42:22
He's grabbing my my underwear, pulling it to the side, I'm
42:26
telling him to get off me and he won't get off. Like holding me
42:31
up against the wall, pushing himself in me.
42:35
I love the music.
42:37
He grabbed me and got me on the bed. I was fully clothed and he
42:40
was naked at this point. And he held me down and he was just
42:44
aggressively trying to you know,
42:46
me. I was like, Oh my God, He raped me
42:58
forced his penis down my throat and couldn't breathe. I was
43:01
choking me. I was crying. And he said, Oh, I only want to see
43:05
your mascara run anyway
43:12
mascara runs a little bit
43:19
Adam Curry: this this big. So so they take a story where the
43:24
woman says this is exactly what he did and said I just want to
43:27
make your mascara run and they cut to a comedic conference a
43:30
stand up of him where he's using this as a joke. And he says
43:34
those blow jobs that to make your mascara run, and they add a
43:38
lot of echo to it and a lot of scary effects. That to me tells
43:42
me this is a job. But wow, a serious one. And I have lots of
43:47
questions. Like, is he has he been removed from YouTube yet?
43:52
More importantly, or have charges have been filed? We know
43:56
that. Certainly this apparently happened in Los Angeles, that
44:00
you can make millions of dollars just like the case against Trump
44:05
with a with a 20 3040 year old accusation. So what is this what
44:10
what really is the result of this? What is the point? And
44:14
there's there's two sides. One is this is two this is the
44:21
mainstream media hates what he's saying and Big Pharma hates what
44:24
he's saying. And the other side is he's using it to up his
44:28
profile. I mean, there's all kinds of sides to this.
44:34
John C Dvorak: I think it's I don't think he's using it to up
44:36
his profiles. It's
44:38
Adam Curry: like an Andrew Tate type type of thing. Oh,
44:42
John C Dvorak: that's not going to happen.
44:46
Adam Curry: But him I've always wondered why he's still on
44:48
YouTube that that is questionable to say the least.
44:51
Make no it
44:52
John C Dvorak: won't be on for long. I think there are things
44:55
to get rid of him. He's a he's a pain in the ass. Yeah.
45:02
Adam Curry: Yeah, it's definitely a pain in the ass.
45:03
But it's also as like, dude. You could see this coming down
45:07
coming down Broadway. You're building an audience on YouTube.
45:10
What are you thinking? Oh, no, I'm now I'm on rumble. Okay,
45:15
John C Dvorak: bitch shoot, come in.
45:17
Adam Curry: Now he's always rumble, I think rumble pays him.
45:21
And we'll see we'll see how strong Rumble is with these
45:24
horrible allegations. It's now you know, of course believe all
45:29
women. But man, this is this is severe. And it's so stylized.
45:34
It's not a news report. It's a 90 minute documentary with with
45:39
music and effects. And an echo is I mean, it's really meant to
45:43
influence people's thinking. I don't even know if I haven't
45:46
watched the whole thing. I haven't haven't watched the
45:48
whole thing I will. I don't even know if they show two sides or
45:51
if it's just all a hit job. The funny thing is people are on
45:56
posting audio. This is AI. Oh my god, really people. It's not
46:02
that hard to find someone who will
46:04
John C Dvorak: just say, I know there's one clip going around to
46:07
one woman when she got cut in and out but the raw version of
46:11
her sounds very AI ish. But what's the point you can find an
46:15
actress to do you don't need AI for
46:19
Adam Curry: that. Hey, you know, tell me this. You're an expert
46:21
in audio. Isn't this AI? No.
46:23
John C Dvorak: I got that. No to your Yeah, Adam, you're the
46:26
expert. Is this AI?
46:29
Adam Curry: Ah, no. It's not that hard to get actresses to do
46:34
this. They've been said they use four actresses for this piece.
46:41
John C Dvorak: So somebody sent me There's a website called AI
46:43
or not.com. And Ar not.com takes a look at images and tells you
46:49
whether they're AI or not. We need to the Art Generator.
46:53
Right. Well, I did and everything was AI. But so I took
46:58
some regular pictures and I swear this is a fact. I took a
47:03
picture. I took a couple of screenshots of airy Melber or
47:07
whatever his name is Ari Morrow,
47:09
Adam Curry: Ra Ra on
47:10
John C Dvorak: MSNBC. Yeah, that guy. And so I had a pic couple
47:14
of screenshots of them and I slipped one into the AI
47:17
generator. It says this isn't this is a real picture. And then
47:21
it said, not safe for work.
47:31
Anyway, yes, not safe for work.
47:34
Adam Curry: No, no, no. I have a
47:38
John C Dvorak: bunch of clips about the impeachment. I want to
47:41
get good. And we didn't talk about last. Oh, of
47:44
Adam Curry: course not. There's reasons for that. It's Can you
47:47
Is it exciting?
47:48
John C Dvorak: I think it's interesting, because they
47:50
brought is from NTD. So they're they're anti by moe. Sure.
47:55
Adam Curry: And we say the impeachment. We're talking about
47:57
impeaching President Biden because he was involved in
48:01
corruption through His Son.
48:04
John C Dvorak: We don't know. But it's a lot of just Hanky
48:08
Panky is what I would describe it. And it's at least as bad as
48:13
when Spiro Agnew is in the vice presidency. And it was
48:17
collecting money in his office and they had to rouse them and
48:21
kicked him out of the office. And this is Joe Biden was doing
48:24
the same stuff when he was vice president and probably still
48:28
things going on. But this would this the only reason I got these
48:32
clips because this is a guy they brought in just to outline the
48:35
evidence, because the Democrats say there's no evidence. So
48:42
yeah, so we have these clips of this guy they brought on to talk
48:45
about the evidence. So you people out there can say yeah,
48:48
there's evidence whether they're going to do anything or not, and
48:51
they're not going to get an impeachment accomplished because
48:54
of the Senate. And the Democrats are all all for it. But let's go
48:58
with impeachment evidence in TD people. Sorry,
49:02
Unknown: what's the evidence against President Biden in the
49:04
impeachment inquiry, a key player has fallen out of the
49:07
news cycle, Victor Shokin. This was the Ukrainian prosecutor
49:11
tasked with cleaning up corruption in the country. Until
49:14
then Vice President Biden stepped in calling for his
49:17
removal. At the time. Shokan was reportedly investigating the
49:21
energy company Burisma where Hunter Biden was a board member
49:25
to go over the timeline, we spoke with an investigative
49:28
journalist Jeff Carlson, thank you so much for joining us. And
49:31
since this impeachment inquiry has been launched, several news
49:35
outlets and pundits have been saying this is without evidence.
49:38
Others say there's a lot of evidence, what evidence is
49:41
there.
49:41
You know, one of the big things that Democrats have been talking
49:44
about is the fact that the will, what they've really done is
49:47
they've sort of capitulated at first it was you know, Joe Biden
49:50
didn't talk to Hunter Biden than it was Joe Biden didn't talk to
49:53
his business partners, that it was okay to talk to his business
49:56
partners, but he didn't actually talk business so we keep
49:58
breaking down these doors. Now the new narrative is you can't
50:02
trace the money directly going back to Joe Biden. Well, you
50:08
pretty much can. And that's what this is all about. You know,
50:12
it's not as if we're going to have a cheque that's going to be
50:14
written directly out to Joe Biden, we know that there was
50:17
this use of 20 different plus shell, holding company shell
50:21
companies through which cash was passing through. We know that if
50:25
you look at the Ukraine situation, you had this new
50:28
prosecutor that was brought in. And despite what people say he
50:32
was absolutely investigating Burisma you know, there was
50:36
always this narrative that the IMF and the EU wanted Shokan
50:39
gone, that's utterly false. We spent forever researching this
50:43
and trying to find any evidence of either of those entities
50:46
wanting Shokan out prior to Joe Biden announcing that he was
50:50
going after Shogun, and it doesn't exist.
50:56
John C Dvorak: So that's the this is where it's going to
50:58
really be about it's about this Shokan guy and Biden bragging
51:01
about memory when he was in front of the Council on Foreign
51:03
Relations. I think it was
51:05
Adam Curry: yes, no, no, no. It was like the Aspen Institute or
51:09
something.
51:11
John C Dvorak: I thought it was in the CFR Well, it was he was
51:13
in it was in public. And he's bragging about how he got rid of
51:17
this guy. Because
51:19
Adam Curry: you're right, it was to see you I have I have the
51:21
clip, it was CFR, we might as well play it since you're doing
51:24
this expos a,
51:25
Unknown: I remember going over convincing our team or others to
51:30
convince the United that we should be providing for loan
51:33
guarantees. And I went over, I guess, the 12th 13th time to
51:38
Kyiv. And, and I was going supposed to announce that there
51:42
was another billion dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a
51:45
commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would
51:50
take action against the state prosecutor and they didn't. So
51:54
they said to me, they walk out, depress kind of sit nice, and
51:56
I'm not going to, we're not going to give you the billion
51:59
dollars. They said you have no authority, you're not the
52:02
president, the President's and I said call him. I said, I'm
52:06
telling you, you're not getting the billion dollars. I said,
52:09
you're not getting the billion I'm gonna be leaving here. I
52:11
think it was about six hours, I look guys, I'm leaving in six
52:13
hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the
52:16
money. Well, son of a bitch got fired. And they put in place
52:21
someone who was
52:23
Adam Curry: solid and friendly to me and my family and others.
52:28
John C Dvorak: Active, of course, has been going around
52:29
for I don't know if you have a date on it, but it's what do I
52:33
do three years and when
52:35
Adam Curry: 2019 October 2019 for years.
52:40
John C Dvorak: And of course everyone has been pointing to
52:41
that clip, as you know, is worse than what Trump did with his
52:45
phone call. But okay, it's been taken forever to get anywhere in
52:49
here we go to clip two.
52:51
Unknown: As a matter of fact, quite the opposite. The State
52:53
Department had said that Shokin had made enough progress that
52:56
they were willing to free up the 1 billion in taxpayer
52:59
guarantees. Some people said their loans, they really
53:02
weren't. They were taxpayer guarantees. But nevertheless,
53:05
from Ukraine's perspective, it freed up one access to $1
53:08
billion. So Joe Biden actually altered US official policy by
53:14
suddenly deciding to withhold these funds to Ukraine, because
53:17
he was trying to get he was trying to place pressure on
53:20
Poroshenko, the President of Ukraine to remove Shokan. And it
53:24
even gets a little bit worse from there, because once Shokan
53:27
was finally removed, they needed to make sure that they had the
53:30
correct prosecutor in place that would close all the Burisma
53:34
investigations. That took a couple of months. And there was
53:38
quite literally a phone call with Poroshenko, the day after
53:42
the new prosecutor was put in place a guy named Yuri, let's
53:46
say go. The day after he was put in place. Biden had a phone call
53:50
with Poroshenko. And it was only then on that phone call that he
53:54
agreed to finally release these funds, which were supposed to
53:58
have been released in you know, December of the prior year,
54:01
December 2014. Those funds didn't get officially released
54:05
until I believe it's May 16 of 2016. And they were tied to put
54:11
it in in the new prosecutor. And that new prosecutor was the one
54:15
who closed the investigation into Burisma.
54:18
Adam Curry: Yeah, yep. Yep, that's how I remember it.
54:22
John C Dvorak: I think well worked out. Well,
54:24
Adam Curry: don't even have that call the Biden call that guy. I
54:26
think there was a call.
54:27
John C Dvorak: No, we don't. Okay. I mean, I don't think so.
54:33
Let's go to step three.
54:35
Unknown: And Jeff, I want to zoom in on that. So Democrats
54:38
are now pushing back on this impeachment inquiry saying that
54:41
while Hunter Biden may have acted unethically, Joe Biden did
54:45
not he did not change any US policy. You argue otherwise. So
54:48
what policy did Joe Biden change?
54:51
Just the withholding of those loans was an official change in
54:54
our foreign policy, and it appears that it was being done
54:57
in order to close down in a investigation into an entity
55:02
which is on was on the board of directors. But more importantly
55:06
than that, that they appear to have been further financially
55:08
entwined. In terms of the you know, the news that we've been
55:11
getting out regarding these, these sequences of two separate
55:14
$5 million bribes one to Joe Biden, one to Hunter Biden all
55:18
tied into getting this investigation removed. And it's
55:21
important to note that Burisma is not above making bribes. The
55:23
owner of Burisma managed to close a UK investigation before
55:28
Hunter actually came on board by doing exactly that. He paid the
55:31
former prosecutor, he paid the former prosecutor's office a $7
55:35
million bribed to close an earlier investigation. You know,
55:39
ultimately, this is part of another argument that we've been
55:41
making is that it's impossible that Obama wasn't aware of this,
55:44
you don't suddenly stop unilaterally a major loan going
55:49
through to Ukraine that had been in the works, and then hold that
55:53
loan up until the changes that you want it to be made. Were
55:57
actually effectuated. So ultimately, Obama had the will
56:00
be aware, at least after the fact of what his Vice President
56:03
was doing.
56:04
Adam Curry: Well, Biden said it Biden said it right there in
56:06
that clip, you don't believe a call the president, he'll back
56:08
me up. So he must of course, he knew.
56:12
John C Dvorak: Yeah, that hasn't really been brought up much. It
56:15
was assumed in that clip that you're talking about. That that
56:18
was a bluff.
56:21
Adam Curry: Oh, really, I believe it wholeheartedly. I
56:24
mean, this is this is Joe Biden. The enemy always overplayed his
56:29
hand. This is exactly what he did, right? A pride, pride.
56:33
That's what he had pride in what he did.
56:37
John C Dvorak: to rake a clip for
56:39
Unknown: and zooming out a bit, these are just this is just an
56:42
impeachment inquiry, not yet Articles of Impeachment to be
56:45
voted on. But the White House has already shot back. It's
56:47
actually giving a statement to major news organizations on how
56:51
to report on this saying to scrutinize what the House
56:54
Republicans are saying, what does it mean for our country
56:58
when major news organizations are getting editorial guidance
57:01
from the White House instead of reporting on it from a distance?
57:05
You know, I obviously I saw that and was a little flabbergasted.
57:09
We've known I guess you in some ways could almost argue, hey,
57:12
good, at least it's out in the open because for years, the
57:15
exact same thing has been going on behind the scenes. You know,
57:18
how many times do you see one media organization, it usually
57:21
comes downstream from the New York Times and Washington Post.
57:25
But everybody picks up the narrative really, pretty much at
57:28
exactly the same moment. You know, we know that the White
57:32
House was directing all the efforts at suppressing
57:35
information on social media sites, Google, etc. Behind the
57:38
scenes. Same thing with COVID. Now, they just seem to have
57:42
given up any pretense that are literally putting that directive
57:45
out there
57:45
Adam Curry: this. See, this is why I think they hate Elon Musk,
57:49
because everybody's complicit. They're all corrupt. And that is
57:54
so specifically around Ukraine. There were so many people
57:58
involved in that corruption. And we know the news media is
58:02
actually they are they are corrupt. They're in bed with the
58:06
intelligence agencies. They're all at the same parties. And
58:09
that's why they hate Musk because he let this be let some
58:12
stuff out. And this people feel threatened.
58:17
John C Dvorak: This last clip, which is the real reason to play
58:19
these clips. Oh, okay. I think is there's something suspicious
58:25
about the fact that this memo went out in the first place.
58:29
This was this is these memos, the memo that went out to tell
58:33
them newsmedia how to react to these these stories, which the
58:37
guy himself said, Well, this has always been a known kind of a
58:40
secret. Now that's out in the open because they don't care.
58:43
They just blatant now, he's just saying Here we run the media,
58:46
here's how you should cover these stories. I don't believe
58:50
that. I think this memo was purposely pushed out there by
58:54
one of the big news companies, and I'm suspecting the
58:59
Washington Post, because they're the ones that are going after
59:02
Biden the most, as if it was just pushed into the mainstream.
59:07
I think I think this was a kind of a leak. As opposed to a
59:12
blatant promotion, how but there is something very suspicious
59:17
about this, and I think is to accomplish two things. One, what
59:20
was maybe mentioned in the Council on Foreign Relations,
59:24
publication, foreign affairs, about getting out of Ukraine,
59:27
and the whole thing is so corrupt, why are we there? And
59:30
the second one is part of the program by a lot of people, not
59:34
all of them by about half the Democrat party to get rid of
59:38
Biden,
59:39
Adam Curry: how about this? Everyone understands that? If
59:46
Trump gets in office, they all Hang on. I think, whether that's
59:50
true or not, I don't know.
59:51
John C Dvorak: But I think that's the genuine hang last
59:54
time, but yes,
59:55
Adam Curry: exactly. But you know, it makes people worried
59:58
and everybody overstepped somehow So maybe this is the
1:00:01
rats leaving the ship saying, well, at least we can shove all
1:00:05
of this blame with our powerful media empires. We can push all
1:00:09
of this onto one guy, one family, let him bleed for it.
1:00:13
The old coot So yeah, that just protected. It obviously has
1:00:17
nothing to do with democracy. It's only no protecting their
1:00:21
own asses because of reputation and criminality.
1:00:28
John C Dvorak: Well, something's up. And I think that discussion
1:00:31
to that, that note coming out from the White House telling
1:00:34
people how to react to these impeachment things is
1:00:38
Adam Curry: an Obama has to be protected at all costs, because
1:00:41
well, Obama
1:00:42
John C Dvorak: got nailed in this little did keep mentioning
1:00:45
him. I think Obama is is targeted to but I don't know
1:00:49
what they're what they're going to accomplish with that. But
1:00:52
here's the last of these clips of this series.
1:00:55
Unknown: What will be interesting, though, is that
1:00:57
this one time that they are making an overt directive
1:01:00
telling the news organizations what they want them to do. And
1:01:03
so far, they're mostly doing it. Will they continue? Because
1:01:07
there definitely seems to be a step back from Biden. You know,
1:01:10
the other day, we saw something that was unheard of, we saw CNN,
1:01:15
running a clip where they were putting up the number of times
1:01:17
that Joe Biden had lied. We have David Ignatius Writing in The
1:01:21
Washington Post that Joe Biden shouldn't run again in 2024. So
1:01:26
we're getting you know, our theory has long been that Joe
1:01:29
Biden is not ultimately going to be the nominee for 2024. But
1:01:32
it's going to be somebody else, likely Gavin Newsom. And we're
1:01:36
now seeing those cracks start to form. So, you know, I think it's
1:01:41
worthwhile noting for the audience, that all this
1:01:43
perceived protection around Joe Biden is less about protecting
1:01:48
Joe Biden, but more about protecting sort of the
1:01:51
establishment and the way the establishment does business. And
1:01:55
I, you know, I think at this point, they're beginning to give
1:01:57
up on Joe a little bit as these facts mount as we started off
1:02:00
discussing at the beginning of this episode.
1:02:02
Adam Curry: He's very measured in what he says. I mean, I
1:02:05
agree, yes, no one wants anyone to see how the sausage is made.
1:02:10
And I'm now thinking this has to do with Mitt Romney's
1:02:15
announcement that he's not running anymore. I'm not
1:02:19
running. We need younger people to come by Mitt Romney looks 60.
1:02:23
He's 7475. The guy looks great. is in great health a 76.
1:02:27
Actually, did I say that? 76. He said it looks like 74 or 75.
1:02:32
Okay, so he's 76. He looks at six he does the he looks good.
1:02:36
He looks good. He's you know, he started Bain Capital he's made
1:02:39
bank. I think he's getting out because he knows the dominoes
1:02:44
are about to fall. And back in 2014, August 7 of this very
1:02:49
podcast. According to the Durham report, the best podcast in the
1:02:54
universe, Episode 641, we were discussing how business is done,
1:03:00
certainly in the world, but by the United States, politicians,
1:03:04
the elites, I think it was in regard to Ebola in Africa. It's
1:03:09
like, hey, you know, we're going to come in, we're going to take
1:03:12
over your country, here's some Ebola for you. But then
1:03:15
something else popped up in this conversation, which I thought
1:03:18
was worth playing. Let's go back in time to August 7 2014. So we
1:03:24
shall see if they can really pull it off. Because I don't I
1:03:27
think these guys just sitting back and go, okay. Let's forget
1:03:30
Ebola for a moment. How much money you're gonna give me? What
1:03:33
am I getting into the table? I don't think America and we have
1:03:36
limits on that stuff. You know, the carriers of the world. Screw
1:03:39
you, man, my kid's gonna get the money. Joe Biden's kids gonna
1:03:42
get the the company in Ukraine that he's running. You know,
1:03:46
they have limits, they won't they will just bring our
1:03:49
extractive unit known as the Pentagon and Department of
1:03:52
Defense and will kill you
1:03:54
John C Dvorak: know, that's why we like to give people generous
1:03:56
loans.
1:04:01
Adam Curry: not mentioned in that lineup was Mitt Romney's
1:04:03
kid, they were all involved in Ukraine, all of them and Pelosi,
1:04:09
his kid. They're all involved in the Ukraine scandal because it
1:04:12
was such a great country to do that, too. Yeah, and I think
1:04:16
this is why let's see what what moves carry makes you know, you
1:04:19
know, my dad in Africa, I'm doing climate change, but he's
1:04:22
not immune. They'll they'll throw him for the wolves to they
1:04:26
will they think
1:04:27
John C Dvorak: yeah, I forgot about the Romney kids
1:04:29
Adam Curry: Romney Romney kid the carry kid
1:04:33
John C Dvorak: you know, he could run two more times he
1:04:36
looks so
1:04:36
Adam Curry: easily and he loves the power he loves it. So I'm
1:04:40
not I'm not buying this
1:04:42
John C Dvorak: is a good catch. I think so. I think you're
1:04:44
right. So that makes just some pushback. Artists, clips, these
1:04:50
are older but this is the White House. I want to play these this
1:04:54
one and then to see if the other two follow. White House push
1:04:57
back on impeachment.
1:05:00
Unknown: Welcome back because the White House is asking the
1:05:02
media to be critical of the impeachment inquiry against
1:05:05
President Biden it sent a letter urging them to, quote ramp up
1:05:08
scrutiny. The letter from White House spokesperson II and Sam
1:05:12
says that there is no evidence against Biden and that the
1:05:15
Impeachment Inquiry is without merit. The letter has raised
1:05:19
concern as it seems to urge news outlets to follow an editorial
1:05:22
director from the White House. The letter was sent out today to
1:05:26
top executives at big news outlets like the New York Times,
1:05:29
Fox, CNN and the associated press box. This comes after
1:05:33
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy announced the Impeachment
1:05:36
Inquiry yesterday.
1:05:38
Adam Curry: Oh, watch this be a super benefit by having Fox take
1:05:42
a fall to watch that just you can watch it happen. Hey, we can
1:05:45
get Fox we can get Fox to fall fold to could happen.
1:05:54
John C Dvorak: Yeah, you don't need these other ones. There's
1:05:56
more of the same. It's just that this White House directive is
1:06:00
very interesting. Well, the sure what the ramifications will be
1:06:05
long term, but it's not. It's not a positive thing.
1:06:08
Adam Curry: Well, the the case the Missouri and Louisiana case
1:06:14
didn't is going to the Supreme Court. Just as a side note, even
1:06:18
though that was more about COVID. But it's always mentioned
1:06:22
kind of in the in the same breath from our lawyer. As
1:06:27
expected, the feds have decided to go straight to Supreme Court.
1:06:30
They asked Justice Alito to stay the preliminary injunction
1:06:34
pending the filing and disposition of the government's
1:06:37
forthcoming petition for a writ of certiorari, which sounds like
1:06:41
a Roman soldier. And any further proceedings also granted, Alito
1:06:45
granted them a one week stay those until next Friday and has
1:06:48
ordered the plaintiffs to file a response by Wednesday. From our
1:06:52
lawyer here. It'll be interesting to see what the
1:06:54
plaintiffs say in response with Alito ultimately decides. All we
1:06:57
know for sure is the feds have announced their plan to seek a
1:06:59
Supreme Court review. Well, nothing uncertain. Our lawyer
1:07:02
says the odds are very good. They can persuade at least four
1:07:05
justices to agree to hear the case. That which is the minimum
1:07:08
needed if that happens to M five and we'll be hard pressed to
1:07:10
ignore the story which they have so far. Like except for this
1:07:14
White House directive, which seems to be overshadowing it a
1:07:16
little bit, but it's all part of the same thing. And this will we
1:07:20
know that this has been going on it's nonstop and I think people
1:07:25
are figuring it out and this will then bring me to equal
1:07:27
airtime this morning. The new the new Chuck Todd on Meet the
1:07:32
Press.
1:07:34
Unknown: Oh yes Welker.
1:07:36
Adam Curry: Yes, Welker interviewed President Trump. And
1:07:40
I have some clips, since it's very timely. Let's listen to the
1:07:45
Unknown: intro ahead of her first episode as the new
1:07:47
moderator of Meet the Press. Kristen Welker sat down with
1:07:50
former President Trump in a one on one exclusive interview
1:07:53
inside his New Jersey Golf Club. The interview comes as Mr. Trump
1:07:56
faces a historic moment, expanding his already dominant
1:08:00
lead over the GOP field. With his sights firmly set on
1:08:04
retaking the White House while facing enormous legal peril
1:08:08
across four looming criminal trials. No topic was off limits,
1:08:12
from the prospect of jail time two big policy issues like his
1:08:15
stance on abortion, and his view of Russian leader Vladimir Putin
1:08:19
will make comments this week about Trump's so called plan to
1:08:22
end the war in Ukraine. Think of Us Now interestingly,
1:08:25
Adam Curry: on Friday Megyn Kelly also interviewed former
1:08:31
President Trump and questions were almost identical. Oh like
1:08:37
scripted. Well, except for one which we'll get to later
1:08:40
John C Dvorak: the Can I mention something here? Yeah. This
1:08:44
Welker thing. The left leaning Mastodon instances which is most
1:08:53
of them, main one, except for No, he
1:08:55
Adam Curry: went ballistic. Why? Because the fact that they gave
1:08:59
him airtime at all,
1:09:00
John C Dvorak: yes.
1:09:04
Adam Curry: Interesting. Well, maybe this is a part of taking
1:09:07
it all down. It was cozy up to Trump man, because you know,
1:09:09
he's gonna kill everybody. So we'll start with the dare Volker
1:09:15
with the first question, which is, well, we'll stick with
1:09:18
Ukraine since that is the center of all action. Right now.
1:09:21
Unknown: Want to ask you about something President Putin said
1:09:23
about you this week? I don't know if you've seen it. This was
1:09:26
very recent President Putin said, quote, We surely hear that
1:09:29
Mr. Trump says he will resolve all burning issues within
1:09:32
several days, including the Ukrainian crisis. We cannot help
1:09:36
but feel happy about it. What do you make of that? Do you welcome
1:09:40
that? He said that because that means what I'm saying is right.
1:09:43
I would get him into a room I get Zelinsky into a room then
1:09:46
I'd bring them together and I'd have the deal worked out. I
1:09:49
would get a deal worked out. It would have been a lot easier
1:09:51
before it started. Essentially for four years. I kept them from
1:09:56
doing anything. Because you know what? I will tell you this I've
1:09:59
never seen others, Ukraine was the apple of his eye. I said,
1:10:03
Don't ever do it, don't ever do it, he would have never done it.
1:10:07
But again, oil prices, he wouldn't have done it because of
1:10:11
me. But oil prices, the prices were so high that he had so much
1:10:16
money. So he had all this money to prosecute the war. The one
1:10:20
who drove up the prices was Biden, given that
1:10:24
President Putin has bombed maternity wards for 20,000 kids
1:10:32
from Russia, mass graves,
1:10:35
mass graves,
1:10:37
welcome his support his all but endorsement.
1:10:40
Look, I had a very good relationship with him. And yet
1:10:43
nobody was tougher on Russia than me. I stopped Nord Stream
1:10:46
two, you never heard of Nord Stream two. That was the
1:10:48
pipeline until I got involved. I said Nord Stream two people that
1:10:52
were sophisticated military people and political people
1:10:56
never heard of Nord Stream to I had it ended, the pipeline was
1:11:00
dead. Biden came in and he proved it. There was nobody
1:11:04
tougher than me with Russia. And yet I got along with Putin, let
1:11:07
me say I got along with him really well. And that's a good
1:11:10
thing. Not a bad thing. He's got 1700 nuclear missiles, and so do
1:11:14
we. But look, that's a good thing. Getting along is okay.
1:11:18
But I got along through strength, and the war would have
1:11:21
never happened, the war would have never happened. Now what's
1:11:25
happened, it's so bad. The oil price is so high, it's hard to
1:11:29
get it stopped. The oil price is so high. When he goes above 50
1:11:33
and $60 a barrel. He makes a lot of money on the war. Now, it's a
1:11:38
humanitarian thing. It's a lot of different reasons. But I will
1:11:41
get that war stop.
1:11:43
Adam Curry: A lot of interesting things in there. About Norway
1:11:46
thrown Nord Stream out Nord Stream two, which is not the one
1:11:49
that was blown up. Very interesting, and blaming it all
1:11:53
on Biden because of the oil price. So let's talk about age,
1:11:58
because that's what we got to do.
1:12:00
Unknown: What do you make of the age issue? Should there be an
1:12:01
age limit to running for president, but
1:12:03
there should be a competency. I'm all for the tests. You know,
1:12:07
I took a test two years ago, three years ago. And as the
1:12:10
doctors said, and it was in front of doctors and a whole big
1:12:13
deal at Walter Reed, which is an incredible place. And I aced it,
1:12:17
I aced it, I get everything right. I'm all for testing. I
1:12:21
frankly, think testing would be a good thing. A lot of people
1:12:25
say it's not constitutional to do it. But I would be for
1:12:29
testing to test to make sure everyone's just fine. But a lot
1:12:33
of people say that can't happen because of constitution.
1:12:37
Adam Curry: Is that true? You can't test a credit. He says
1:12:40
that. What was he talking about? He always has reasons for
1:12:44
throwing weird stuff out like that. I think what he means is
1:12:48
we can't actually find out the Joe is feeble, because then
1:12:51
well, then we have to invoke the 25th amendment. Maybe that's
1:12:54
what he means.
1:12:55
John C Dvorak: I don't think so. I think he's, I think I don't
1:12:58
think that's the that's too convoluted. The 25th amendment
1:13:02
can be implemented for any good reason that you know, the guy
1:13:06
has a sore toe, you could do it if you wanted to.
1:13:08
Adam Curry: All I know is Trump throw stuff out there. And
1:13:11
there's always a reason for it sometime years later, you Oh,
1:13:14
that's what that was about.
1:13:16
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I agree does that but in this case, I'm
1:13:19
going to let's continue.
1:13:21
Adam Curry: Let's continue with with ageism.
1:13:23
Unknown: What do you say to people who say it is time
1:13:25
for a new generation of leaders? Well, it's always time for a new
1:13:28
generation. But you know, some of the greatest world leaders
1:13:31
have been in their 80s. I'm not anywhere very near 80, by the
1:13:35
way, but okay, and Biden's not too old. I don't think Biden
1:13:39
Sure. But I think he's incompetent. And that's a bigger
1:13:42
problem. I don't think he is old. I know people that are 89.
1:13:46
I know person 9495. Who's 100%. Bernie Marcus, take a look at
1:13:51
Bernie Marcus Home Depot. I mean, he's been amazing for so
1:13:54
many years, he's 95 years old. It's, it's really a level of
1:13:59
competency, not the age,
1:14:00
you will be in your 80s. If you're reelected. Does that
1:14:03
concern you at all? Well, I
1:14:04
will be toward the end. No, because my father lived much
1:14:08
longer than that. My mother lived much longer than that. So
1:14:11
genetically, that's a good thing.
1:14:13
Adam Curry: So the rest of the interview wasn't all that
1:14:15
interesting, you know, but will you pardon yourself? You know,
1:14:18
these dumb questions. Kristi, Noem, who's going to be your
1:14:22
running mate? You left a note for Biden. What did it say? Is
1:14:27
so Welker? I think she she laid an egg on this one. The one that
1:14:31
that we really wanted to hear about the one that Tucker didn't
1:14:35
broach was the vaccine question. And Megyn Kelly asked the
1:14:40
question, and it's a long answer. I think it's, I think
1:14:44
it's worthwhile to listen, we can interrupt it worthwhile to
1:14:47
listen to what his answer was, because this is truly the only
1:14:51
thing that matters to Magga country at this point. When it
1:14:53
comes to President Trump.
1:14:55
Unknown: This is the number one question they wanted me to ask
1:14:57
you that you shut the country down for six weeks in spring of
1:14:59
two 2020 operation warp speed, excuse me rushing through. I
1:15:03
didn't really I mean, let me let me ask. This is my audience
1:15:06
lesson I gotta get it
1:15:07
out, but I let the governors shut down. Some did and some
1:15:11
didn't. Okay, some didn't shut down and
1:15:13
operation warp speed, though that was on the vaccines. They
1:15:16
were rushed through, they have helped but also hurt a lot of
1:15:19
people. And your White House actually supported mask
1:15:23
mandates. So wouldn't you like to do over on any of that?
1:15:27
Look, when this came in, nobody knew what the hell it was. It
1:15:30
sounded like an ancient, you know, pandemic, you thought that
1:15:34
was from 200 years ago or from 1970. And we never thought you'd
1:15:37
have a pandemic. Nobody had any idea. We got word that bad
1:15:42
things were happening in China right around the Wuhan clinic.
1:15:45
And I was the one that said it was in the Wuhan clinic. And you
1:15:48
know, I stay stuck with it. And it was it was absolutely, it
1:15:52
came out of the Wuhan clinic. But you take a look. And what we
1:15:56
did was we this was brand new, nobody knew what the hell it was
1:16:01
this dust. Somebody said this dust coming in from China. And
1:16:05
it's killing people in Italy. And it's killing people in
1:16:07
France. And
1:16:08
Adam Curry: you understand what he's getting at here. What he's
1:16:10
what he's saying is, we didn't know it's easy. I think what
1:16:14
he's saying is in hindsight, easy to say that, but I got all
1:16:17
these messages, all this stuff was happening, and I took
1:16:21
actions going
1:16:21
Unknown: to kill people here. And by the way, I shut it down
1:16:24
to China. That was a big move. I saved 1000s hundreds of 1000s of
1:16:28
lives by doing it. But honestly, nobody, I don't blame a lot of
1:16:32
people because nobody knew what it was. Now we do understand it
1:16:36
somewhat. Nobody really understands that even now,
1:16:39
fully. But nobody knew what COVID was. And it wasn't even a
1:16:43
name. I call it the China virus. I still do I call it the China
1:16:46
virus it came out of China.
1:16:47
Adam Curry: He does these great things where this is all NLP
1:16:50
what he's doing, it's so it's so good. He'll give you some
1:16:53
information, then zap your head around what I call the China
1:16:56
virus. And the it takes you back to that takes you actually back
1:16:59
into the briefing room when he was saying that is very smart.
1:17:04
Unknown: You know, they call it COVID and COVID-19. As far as
1:17:08
the vaccine is concerned, you had the original COVID. And
1:17:12
that's
1:17:12
Adam Curry: the original COVID. This was original was different.
1:17:16
It's like original coke. It's not like New Coke or Diet Coke.
1:17:18
Its original COVID.
1:17:20
Unknown: The vaccine had an impact on that. And there are
1:17:22
some people I will tell you, some friends of mine that are
1:17:26
Democrat, I think they voted for me. But the Democrats, very
1:17:28
smart people, tough people. They say, you know, I don't
1:17:31
understand one thing. Why don't you talk more about the vaccine,
1:17:35
it was one of the greatest things you've ever done. I think
1:17:37
of that. They say to me, and I say I'm not going to talk about
1:17:40
it one way or the other. First of all, no,
1:17:43
Adam Curry: I think when he this is I think this is also NLP when
1:17:45
he says the Democrats told him, this is the greatest thing
1:17:50
you've ever done. Think about it. So that immediately makes
1:17:54
you think Democrats were in charge of this. It's really It's
1:17:57
I think is really interesting.
1:17:58
Unknown: And the vaccine had an impact on that. And there are
1:18:02
some people I will tell you, some friends of mine that are
1:18:05
Democrat, I think they voted for me, but they're Democrat, very
1:18:08
smart people, tough people. They say, you know, I don't
1:18:11
understand one thing. Why don't you talk more about the vaccine,
1:18:14
it was one of the greatest things you've ever done. I think
1:18:16
of that. They say to me, and I say, I'm not going to talk about
1:18:20
one way or the other. First of all, no mandates. I don't want
1:18:23
mandates. I've never had mandates.
1:18:25
Adam Curry: This is his thing. This is his thing, because of
1:18:26
course we have to recall that the vaccine was not administered
1:18:30
it was in in in. In fact, it was held back until after the
1:18:36
election. Specifically was
1:18:38
John C Dvorak: you held back on purpose? Yes. On purpose. The
1:18:41
Florida advisor guys mainly it was material. Yeah.
1:18:45
Adam Curry: Well, I was political as well. But here we
1:18:48
go. No, he says no mandates. It was no mandate. And then he's
1:18:51
got to take a shot at DeSantis and dates.
1:18:53
Unknown: I never had mandates of Florida sort of had a mandate
1:18:56
because they were giving the vaccine they were demanding
1:18:58
everybody take the vaccine, that's another thing. But no
1:19:01
mandates no anything. I didn't demand anybody take it. But I
1:19:05
have people on the other side. I don't know from my side will
1:19:08
know probably there's someone might say to they said you saved
1:19:11
100 million people because I got it done in nine months as
1:19:14
opposed to five years to 12 years. A lot of people don't
1:19:17
have it. No, I'm not proud of it. I'm saying what Democrats
1:19:20
thinks
1:19:20
Adam Curry: Oh, interesting. You're proud of it? No, I'm not
1:19:23
proud of it. No, I'm just telling you what Democrats say.
1:19:27
It's better than I think people realize and people
1:19:29
Unknown: because I got it done in nine months as opposed to
1:19:32
five years to 12 years. A lot of people out of it. No, I'm not
1:19:35
proud of it. I'm saying what Democrats thing. Democrats,
1:19:38
I get it and I'm not doing I'm not somebody who denies some of
1:19:41
the good of the vaccines. Did I live interesting.
1:19:43
Adam Curry: Megan says she doesn't deny some of the good of
1:19:46
the vaccine, even though she herself says that she is vaccine
1:19:49
injured. It's very interesting.
1:19:51
Unknown: No, I'm not proud of it. I'm saying what Democrats
1:19:53
thing. Democrats,
1:19:54
I get it and I'm not. I'm not somebody who denies some of the
1:19:57
good of the vaccines did I lived through that too, but You know,
1:20:00
of course a lot of people have been vaccine injured. And that's
1:20:04
one of the questions those people are mad that they were
1:20:06
rushed through and that they can't sue.
1:20:08
Well, I never gave mandates and people have to make up their own
1:20:11
near make their own decision, as far as I'm concerned. Now, some
1:20:13
places had mandates I have very strong mandates that largely
1:20:17
Democratic governors and probably some Republicans, etc,
1:20:20
etc. But wait, you're a Democrat,
1:20:24
John C Dvorak: as he talked about when he says mandate,
1:20:26
mandate mandate, but is he talking about vaccine mandates
1:20:28
which he couldn't do because the vaccine wasn't available? Or was
1:20:33
he talking about mask mandates? They never mentioned mask? Are
1:20:36
they talking about quarantine mandates? What mandates is he
1:20:40
referring to specifically
1:20:42
Adam Curry: only vaccine mandates? In my opinion, that's
1:20:44
all that he saw. He won't he was not going to discuss quarantine
1:20:47
or massacre does not come up and you know,
1:20:49
Unknown: make their own decision, as far as I'm
1:20:50
concerned. Now, some places had mandates, very strong mandates,
1:20:54
largely Democrat governors and probably some Republicans, etc,
1:20:58
etc. But there are Democrats that say, why aren't you talking
1:21:03
about that? It's one of the they really believe strongly
1:21:06
Adam Curry: is really trying to put this into your head, the
1:21:08
Democrats, it's the Democrats, the Democrats, the Democrats
1:21:11
Unknown: once said, you say and this is very smart people. They
1:21:14
said you saved 100 million people worldwide. In 1917. You
1:21:19
know, that it could have been as much as 100 It ended the First
1:21:23
World War because all the soldiers were dying of, of this
1:21:25
horrible disease of 1917. You know, it actually ended the
1:21:30
First World War Two soldiers were dying. That was one of
1:21:33
lines. They're fighting and they're dying.
1:21:35
Adam Curry: The only reason he can be saying this somehow is to
1:21:38
lead us to remind us that soldiers are dying our soldiers
1:21:42
that the mandates the mandates in the army and the military,
1:21:46
that these mandates the soldiers are dying, that must be
1:21:49
something like that. I'm not I'm not sure why he's doing that.
1:21:51
Otherwise,
1:21:52
John C Dvorak: I think he's freewheeling so
1:21:55
Adam Curry: possibly, possibly
1:21:56
Unknown: this horrible disease. They said, you might have saved
1:21:59
100 million people. 50 million people. Why aren't you talking
1:22:02
about it? I'm not talking about it. But what I did do is I get
1:22:05
something done for that specific thing.
1:22:09
Adam Curry: There is I got something done so now he's
1:22:11
saying hey, I didn't force it in your arm. He should he should
1:22:15
never says he wasn't even available during my my
1:22:19
presidency. I don't I'm not sure why he doesn't say that. That's
1:22:22
a hedge, I think. But now he's gonna say I did all the work
1:22:26
John C Dvorak: was available to him. Once the election was over,
1:22:29
he had two months. Yeah, that he was still in office. He could
1:22:33
have done, you know, mandating. Then
1:22:35
Unknown: I also got Regeneron and I got a lot of therapeutics
1:22:39
done, which were great.
1:22:40
Adam Curry: Interesting. He calls them therapeutics, which
1:22:45
would nullify any emergency youth authorization. And
1:22:51
Regeneron. Was that really a therapeutic?
1:22:55
John C Dvorak: Guess I remember I just vaguely remember what I
1:22:57
were Regeneron. What
1:22:59
Adam Curry: wasn't that bad? It was a bad product. No, no, no,
1:23:02
it's remdesivir. Oh, okay. Regeneron, I think is the
1:23:06
monoclonal antibodies, I think, no, let me look it up. That's
1:23:12
Unknown: thing. I also got Regeneron. And I got a lot of
1:23:15
therapeutics done, which were great. I also got the robes and
1:23:18
the leather and the rubber and all of the different things to
1:23:21
ventilators. We did a tremendous job. And it's never, you know,
1:23:27
the appreciated what it did with the economy. I got a lot of good
1:23:30
marks on the economy got a lot of good marks and a lot of
1:23:32
things rebuilding the military getting rid of ISIS, the biggest
1:23:36
tax cuts in history. Supreme, I never got, I think the credit
1:23:41
that I just uncovered, and I'll tell you, the way I look at it,
1:23:45
it came in and nobody knew it was we have to put ourselves
1:23:48
back then. I had a meeting. And we had a lot of professionals in
1:23:52
the Oval Office. They say sir, something bad is happening in
1:23:56
the world. I said, What's that? And they said, people are dying.
1:24:00
They're dying in China, in this area. And those pictures of
1:24:04
moneybags all over the place, black body bags, satellite
1:24:09
pictures. And they were all over. I see this strange. And
1:24:13
then I'd have a next another meeting the next day and the
1:24:15
next day and the next day, and all of a sudden, they had
1:24:18
something where the first person died in the United States and
1:24:22
then another Yeah, and then it died. Then they started dying
1:24:24
all over Italy and all over Europe. Nobody really knew what
1:24:28
it was Megan,
1:24:29
I hear you. Let's shift gears and talk about trans and women's
1:24:33
rights.
1:24:35
Adam Curry: It is monoclonal antibodies. That's what Okay,
1:24:38
that's what it is. So he's kind of saying I got duped you know,
1:24:43
hey, no one knew what it was. There was body bags, satellite
1:24:45
images of body bags I've never seen I don't think that he never
1:24:48
said he was duped. No, but I know he's not saying they're
1:24:52
John C Dvorak: still his issue. He can can't say MIT any false
1:24:55
whatsoever. He can't say well, that was a mistake. This We
1:25:00
can't simply say something was a mistake.
1:25:04
Adam Curry: Is this pride?
1:25:08
John C Dvorak: Well, I would technically but there's more to
1:25:10
it seems to me, because even the most prideful person can say
1:25:14
once in a while say they were wrong on some and there's some
1:25:17
circumstance this guy can't do it.
1:25:20
Adam Curry: Pride disease that makes everyone sick except the
1:25:23
person who has it. Anyway, I thought Megan kind of gave up
1:25:30
the end there and then went to trans and then yeah, you're
1:25:32
John C Dvorak: right. She bailed. She did Bill. abruptly.
1:25:37
Adam Curry: Yeah, well, then she went on to say, hey, you let
1:25:40
Caitlyn Jenner use your bathroom like, okay, so, so sad.
1:25:44
Pathetic. It really is.
1:25:46
John C Dvorak: Well, at least somebody brought it up to at
1:25:48
least listen to what his current Spiel is it will is his Spiel
1:25:54
tends to morph over time as he re analyzes what he said. So the
1:26:00
next time he says it, it's maybe the maybe, yeah, and it'll
1:26:04
probably be on one of his speeches. So completely ironed
1:26:09
out
1:26:09
Adam Curry: here. I guess he's still working it out in his
1:26:11
head. This is not quite hitting home yet. What do I have to
1:26:14
change? Well, he may not be capable of it.
1:26:20
John C Dvorak: He may not because No, he's not capable.
1:26:23
But he can he can circumvent what he can work it up. So he
1:26:28
can do it a bit. You could do a comedy act about it. To make it
1:26:33
funny,
1:26:34
Adam Curry: yeah. Speaking of the transgender issue, now it's
1:26:40
time for our trans
1:26:42
Unknown: gender athletes self destruct initiated?
1:26:44
Adam Curry: Well, exactly as expected, and I think you
1:26:48
prognosticated it, although they are not actual lead bullets. It
1:26:53
looks like children who have been who've been mutilated, are
1:26:57
now firing away at doctors, psychiatrists, psychologists,
1:27:05
hospitals, hospitals, and probably parents soon. We have
1:27:11
and it's it's mainly girls who had been transitioned are now
1:27:16
coming out. There's lawsuits being filed. And wow. Alex
1:27:19
Stein, you know, Alex Stein, the real Alex Stein 99. He's the guy
1:27:24
that goes into all those city council meetings and will dress
1:27:26
up the character. Yeah, I can not judge. He's the best. So he
1:27:30
has a show, which I didn't realize he has a comedy show.
1:27:34
And he has a Chloe Cole. And she was slowly Yeah, he's one of the
1:27:40
main ones. Yes. Well, I opening answers in this. Just this
1:27:45
little bit of this interview. eye opening?
1:27:48
Unknown: Well, you know, this is obviously a comedy show. But I
1:27:51
don't want to like be disrespectful to you at all. You
1:27:53
know, I want to definitely get your story out there. So tell us
1:27:55
a little bit about what happened at 14 and I've heard your story
1:27:58
a bunch. But for the people that haven't, you went to a doctor
1:28:02
and I believe the doctor basically told your parents if
1:28:03
you don't do this, you are going to kill yourself. Wasn't that
1:28:06
one of the main motivations in getting the gender? They're
1:28:09
getting the mastectomy at 14? Or excuse me, 15?
1:28:12
Oh, yeah, they totally homed in on that when they're talking to
1:28:17
my parents.
1:28:17
Adam Curry: This is the would you rather have a dead daughter
1:28:21
or a living son? Classic. But interestingly, she wasn't saying
1:28:29
that until after they put her on medication. Susan 15
1:28:32
Unknown: Oh, yeah, they totally homed in on that when they're
1:28:36
talking to my parents about my desire to become a boy. I wasn't
1:28:42
suicidal at the time. Actually. I wasn't suicidal until I was on
1:28:46
the treatments that they put me on which they put me on puberty
1:28:50
blockers and testosterone when I was very 13 years old. I was
1:28:53
about halfway through my eighth grade year when they started
1:28:56
this and I was 15 when they cleared me to go under the knife
1:29:01
and get a double mastectomy. That's when I was just it was a
1:29:04
summer after my after my sophomore year of high school
1:29:06
and they decided to remove my breasts surgically.
1:29:09
And yeah, if you would have asked your parents for a tattoo
1:29:12
of Leonard Skinner or you had Taylor Swift tattoo, do you
1:29:15
think they would have given you a Taylor Swift tattoo?
1:29:17
Oh, no. I mean, they're in California. It's illegal to even
1:29:21
let anybody under 18 go into a tanning booth. And yet they they
1:29:26
let kids see encourage kids actually to undergo these
1:29:29
permanent life changing procedures that will affect the
1:29:32
entire course of development from there on.
1:29:34
Adam Curry: I thought this for me, oh, wait a minute. The
1:29:37
suicidal tendencies didn't come until you put the kid on puberty
1:29:41
blockers well that changes the story a little bit
1:29:44
John C Dvorak: changes the story a lot. One of my first is this
1:29:48
is going to be a dis is going to be a horrendous and well
1:29:52
deserved nightmare. Because she's not the only one and the
1:29:57
any one of these things where they become popular Ah, you
1:30:00
know, it's like all of a sudden and other, it creates kind of a
1:30:04
cascade effect, which is what has to happen. And all these
1:30:09
medical operations have got to do they're going to be they're
1:30:14
having meetings as we speak. Oh, you bet.
1:30:16
Adam Curry: And it's it's going to involve school, they do bet
1:30:19
you bet you better believe it. I mean, Don't bet on it. You bet.
1:30:24
Well, you can bet on it. A friend of mine, his wife is a
1:30:27
grade school teacher middle school, I think they call it and
1:30:30
then she had the them in the class of female. And I guess it
1:30:35
was some full school function. And he asked his wife who said,
1:30:38
Hey, is that is that that? They them's dad? She said, Yeah. How
1:30:42
do you know? He says, Well, first of all, he's wearing a
1:30:44
Ukraine t shirt. So that was just the easy guess. So it turns
1:30:48
out that these parents, third grade hired a social worker to
1:30:53
come and monitor their child in school to make she was make sure
1:30:57
she was okay all the time. And the school teacher said, they
1:31:00
made her so paranoid. With a social worker hanging around she
1:31:03
had to add, but she thought the whole world was about her and
1:31:07
that completely broke her brain. And then there you go, you
1:31:11
transgender gotta be a boy. It's all of it, the whole system. And
1:31:16
it I have to say it's coming from, from mind controlled MK
1:31:20
Ultra parents who wants and this goes back to my my hairdresser.
1:31:26
Who were the crazy ones during COVID. And now they have they
1:31:29
need control over their lives. And here's something I can
1:31:32
control. My kid is trans. Yes, I have control over this. Got it.
1:31:35
I understand that I'm being told that this is right. And just and
1:31:39
it's so sad because these parents that you have to forgive
1:31:43
them. They don't know what they're doing. They've been
1:31:46
manipulated, completely psychologically manipulated into
1:31:50
this. Anyone who, who wears a mask by themselves in their car,
1:31:55
you need to make sure their children are okay. Check. Check.
1:32:00
Check on me. Sure. The
1:32:01
John C Dvorak: windows are rolled down in a hot car check.
1:32:05
Adam Curry: You got to check on a man. Wow. It's just it's just
1:32:11
nuts. Really is.
1:32:16
John C Dvorak: I don't have any transgender stuff.
1:32:18
Adam Curry: That's really all I have on the on the train. I
1:32:20
mean, we can't have although I there was some, some pretty
1:32:24
funny. And actually, we have the
1:32:27
John C Dvorak: actually I do have something, Brian. Okay.
1:32:31
There's some great, you know, California's nuts about some of
1:32:34
this stuff.
1:32:35
Adam Curry: Yeah, I've heard I'm reliably informed.
1:32:40
John C Dvorak: So we have a couple of bills, school bills,
1:32:45
you know, they make sure that the things are in order that the
1:32:48
legislature is going to pass. There's I have two clips is
1:32:52
California school bill a
1:32:55
Unknown: to California bills could impact how classrooms and
1:32:58
school board meetings are run if signed. The first is Senate Bill
1:33:03
274. Introduced by Democratic Senator Nancy Skinner. The bill
1:33:07
would ban schools from suspending students who disrupt
1:33:10
class or defy teachers known as willful defiance suspensions.
1:33:15
The amendments taken the assembly extend the current
1:33:18
sunset, on willful defiance suspensions prohibition for
1:33:23
middle school students, and creates a sunset provision for
1:33:28
this on high school students.
1:33:30
The bill has received bipartisan support.
1:33:32
And Skinner previously said suspensions lead to students
1:33:35
dropping out of school at a time when many are still behind due
1:33:40
to the COVID 19 pandemic. But people in opposition argue that
1:33:45
the bill is almost like a license for the kids to
1:33:48
misbehave, being detrimental to the learning of others in the
1:33:51
classrooms.
1:33:52
Adam Curry: Isaiah 31 knows our six it passed the
1:33:55
Unknown: legislature and is now awaiting Governor Gavin Newsom
1:33:58
signature in the coming weeks. Okay,
1:34:01
Adam Curry: let me just understand, because not Not, not
1:34:03
everyone in the world understands the tension. So
1:34:05
detention is when you've been a bad boy or girl in the class
1:34:08
you're sent to the principal's office at least is the way I
1:34:11
remember it. And the principle says You have detention, which
1:34:14
means you have to stay after school in Detention Hall and you
1:34:18
have to be quiet and do your homework. And you stay there for
1:34:20
an extra hour or so you might have to do it for a week or two.
1:34:23
Is that Is that what we're talking about here?
1:34:25
John C Dvorak: But they're talking about mostly suspensions
1:34:27
where you get kicked out of school for a week. Okay? Because
1:34:30
you knife the teacher.
1:34:34
Adam Curry: Was that the example given?
1:34:36
John C Dvorak: No, but it might as well be. I mean, it's like
1:34:38
the kids who are just Maniacs and there are kids who are
1:34:43
maniacs and have to be kicked out of the school and they won't
1:34:47
do now you can't do that you have to put up with them. Which
1:34:50
means that all the kids will suffer because you'll have these
1:34:53
troublemakers and kids who are genuine troublemakers if anyone
1:34:56
can remember back when you were a kid, there are kids were just
1:35:00
troublemakers and they loved it. Now they're giving a gift.
1:35:05
You're giving them a free rein and you don't think they know
1:35:08
it.
1:35:09
Adam Curry: I would like to refer everyone to a wonderful
1:35:11
movie known as The Breakfast Club with Molly Ringwald, and
1:35:15
Judd Nelson and, and these kids, these troublemakers were put
1:35:19
into detention, which comes before suspension. And the whole
1:35:23
movie is about that and they turned into wonderful human
1:35:26
beings at the end of the movie.
1:35:27
John C Dvorak: That's where they got it from. This past a wall.
1:35:33
Adam Curry: It's no good. The Breakfast Club sucks.
1:35:36
John C Dvorak: So let's play a clip to this as another thing
1:35:38
going on
1:35:39
Unknown: the second bill, Senate Bill 596 would make it a
1:35:43
misdemeanor to harass school employees or disrupt school
1:35:47
board meetings. It's also awaiting the governor's a final
1:35:50
decision introduced by Senator Anthony Portantino in February,
1:35:55
individuals who harass school staff in verbal written or
1:35:59
electronic communication may face up to $1,000 in fines and
1:36:04
jail time. Critics say this bill silences parents and protects
1:36:09
school employees from public criticism, not harassment.
1:36:13
Governor Newsom has until October 14 to sign or veto bills
1:36:17
this legislative year. So
1:36:23
John C Dvorak: so if you're on Twitter and you say your school
1:36:25
board sucks you're gonna be fined $1,000 This is very
1:36:29
Chinese by the way. China PRC stuff
1:36:33
Adam Curry: Yeah, social credit score. I like it.
1:36:36
John C Dvorak: It's pretty much the same thing. And now we have
1:36:39
the last thing which is oh, there's finally somebody's
1:36:44
pushing back against this and the government is kept
1:36:47
California from from imposing their crazy car mandates in his
1:36:53
California Car mandates no been kicked back by the by the Fed
1:36:57
feds.
1:36:59
Unknown: California may not be allowed to implement zero
1:37:02
emission vehicle mandate. House lawmakers voted to strike it
1:37:05
down. And it wasn't just a Republican majority a Democrats
1:37:09
agreed and tedious Jayson Blair has the latest
1:37:12
there preserving choice in vehicle purchases Act passed the
1:37:16
House on Thursday with the new party line vote
1:37:19
Adam Curry: Who is screaming at me where's this from? Is this a
1:37:21
local news report
1:37:24
Unknown: and TD alleges legislation seeks to void
1:37:27
regulations in California that would ban the sale of new
1:37:30
gasoline powered vehicles by 2035. In order to fight climate
1:37:35
change, the mainly Republican supporters said that
1:37:38
California's mandate will have negative economic effects and
1:37:41
intrudes on consumers ability to choose a car that best fits
1:37:45
their needs domain the Democrat opponents argued that the
1:37:48
mandate is needed to combat climate change and reduce
1:37:51
pollution of saying the transportation sector is a major
1:37:55
contributor to greenhouse gases.
1:37:57
Americans can make consumer choices based on their merits
1:38:01
and needs, not radical mandates rooted in trying to force Green
1:38:06
New Deal directives on families.
1:38:08
This bill disregards over 50 years of precedent, erasing
1:38:12
decades of progress made by states to protect Americans from
1:38:16
dangerous air pollution.
1:38:18
Adam Curry: And now has this passed or is this still up for
1:38:20
for votes
1:38:21
John C Dvorak: for graduating is passed, but it hasn't been
1:38:23
signed. By the way. The little kicker at the end is what got me
1:38:28
which is we need to we need to get electric cars are because of
1:38:32
dangerous air pollution. That is not the same as global warming.
1:38:37
Adam Curry: I think we need to bring this jingle back. People
1:38:40
are asking for it to the gate to the gate to the clinic. I think
1:38:45
we just need to use it as a general jingle for all things
1:38:48
climate madness. I'll kick it off
1:38:51
Unknown: a city ripped to pieces. Apocalyptic scenes
1:38:55
abound in Turner. After rain from storm Daniel collapsed dams
1:38:58
outside the city. floods drown 1000 soon afterwards. But the
1:39:03
question is now being asked. Could it all have been prevented
1:39:07
in Libya, where access to data is still so difficult, where
1:39:11
there's a compounded problem of the problems of the dams
1:39:14
breaking as well as the storm breaking from the from the sea.
1:39:19
This is this is a tragedy in which climate and capacity has
1:39:23
collided to cause this terrible terrible tragedy.
1:39:27
Adam Curry: Climate and capacity has collided to cause this
1:39:32
tragedy. This is the new term that climate might clip by there
1:39:36
was a year just mind that's that's the UN douche. That's
1:39:39
climate and capacity. These are the two new this is the new
1:39:44
term. I think this is what's going to be the new thing.
1:39:47
John C Dvorak: Well they do have a there's a there's there are
1:39:49
pushing this idea that we're over capacity. I've no I'm just
1:39:53
playing my clip as you if it's in this one, the catastrophic
1:39:56
Unknown: flooding in Libya came as a new study found Earths II
1:40:00
ecosystems are outside of their safe operating space for
1:40:03
humanity. The report in the journal
1:40:08
Adam Curry: gotta hear that one you know, I'm sorry we got it.
1:40:14
AMY GOODMAN flippin bound. I'm sorry everybody people are angry
1:40:19
I didn't warn them. Here we go started to get
1:40:21
Unknown: catastrophic flooding in Libya came as a new study
1:40:24
found Earth's ecosystems are outside of their safe operating
1:40:27
space for humanity.
1:40:29
Adam Curry: Oh man that's beautiful outside of their safe
1:40:33
operating space for humanity.
1:40:37
Unknown: The report in the journal Science Advances warns
1:40:40
of imbalances to injury of key measurements of the planet's
1:40:43
health, including biodiversity, freshwater pollution and the
1:40:47
climate. Climate scientists Johan rock strim co authored the
1:40:52
report,
1:40:52
six of the nine boundaries are outside of their safe space. The
1:40:56
four boundaries that we assessed in 2015 are deeper into the red
1:41:00
so we're continuing to move in the wrong direction. And this is
1:41:04
a big concern.
1:41:05
Close to 800 organizations have endorsed climate actions
1:41:09
beginning Friday culminating in a march to end fossil fuel
1:41:14
Sunday here in New York at the United Nations My
1:41:18
Adam Curry: goodness so yeah, so now I just got I gotta write
1:41:23
this down I got I'm sorry. I have to write down exactly what
1:41:26
she's catastrophic
1:41:27
Unknown: flooding in Libya came as a new study found Earth's
1:41:30
ecosystems are outside of their safe operating space for
1:41:33
humanity, Earth
1:41:36
John C Dvorak: space or Safe Space Systems
1:41:40
Adam Curry: outside of safe operating space
1:41:47
John C Dvorak: for humanity
1:41:48
Adam Curry: humanity. Okay, here's what I'd like to say.
1:41:52
Bullshit and with that I'd like to thank you for your courage in
1:41:55
the morning to man who just put the sea in the climate and
1:41:58
capacity catastrophe say hello to my friend on the other end
1:42:01
the one and only Mr. John
1:42:06
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John C Dvorak: take this a lot. This was the this was a
1:45:34
fallback.
1:45:35
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1:45:38
choice.
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John C Dvorak: No, it was a great choice. It turns out that
1:45:42
which is typical when we do this when we have this, I don't like
1:45:45
this, you don't like this, why like this, but you guys still
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you still smile, you can't
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Adam Curry: read it. Oh, you're nailing my voice. It's so
1:45:52
accurate.
1:45:53
John C Dvorak: I'm getting they're getting they're gonna
1:45:55
lose. I could use a bit better deep notes, but I'm getting one
1:46:01
after the other, which is I had this and he had that. And he
1:46:04
didn't like this. He didn't like anything. You actually said to
1:46:06
Adam Curry: me. You're in a
1:46:08
John C Dvorak: mood. I did because you were in a mood.
1:46:11
Adam Curry: And I said, No, I'm not in the mood. I just disagree
1:46:13
with you. old coot. And so
1:46:16
John C Dvorak: you're going back and forth. And back and forth.
1:46:18
And back. It was really took about 10 minutes.
1:46:21
Adam Curry: Yeah, it took longer than.
1:46:24
John C Dvorak: And so then it turned out that when we picked
1:46:27
which was a fallback, it was like,
1:46:30
Adam Curry: Oh, well, we can agree on that one. And it was
1:46:33
the best choice. I think in hindsight, this got a lot of a
1:46:37
lot of attention, people. I got people texting me. Wow, what a
1:46:41
great you guys are genius. You chose the right one, or the
1:46:44
best. Like that's right. That's how that's how we roll. That's
1:46:47
why there's two of us. Francisco Scaramanga brought us the
1:46:50
artwork for 1590. Very, very detailed, very good to affirm a
1:46:56
mockingbird, of course, referring to the scandal of
1:46:59
libraries, dropping all books from before 2008, I got an email
1:47:03
from a librarian about this, who says I've been waiting for this
1:47:07
is why listen to the donation segment. I've been waiting for a
1:47:10
while for y'all to cover that what the library BS raging my
1:47:13
best guess about weeding in Canada and Canadian school
1:47:17
libraries. They picked 2008 Because it's 15 years ago, and
1:47:21
library administrators are lazy and disorganized. They just
1:47:25
picked that round year because that's when the woke mind virus
1:47:28
ramped up. It's also possible that some head librarian from
1:47:32
that era retired. So now they can toss all the bad books with
1:47:37
impunity. At my library books that don't get checked out for a
1:47:42
whole year are sold or pulped. The administration regularly
1:47:46
wants to trash the whole reference section.
1:47:51
John C Dvorak: You know, that's funny, because I have we have a
1:47:55
book sale here in Albany, which is a small community that has a
1:48:01
library that does this two book sales a year and one of them is
1:48:06
people donate their books, and then they take books from all
1:48:09
the various libraries and it's all there. And so I you can buy
1:48:12
a complete set of Encyclopedia Britannica for like $8 Wow, as
1:48:19
and they have all I've had I have so many reference books.
1:48:23
I've got the Cambridge reference book of American ethnic groups,
1:48:28
which is huge, by the way, and I was like, two bucks or three
1:48:32
bucks. So you can load up if you have your own library in your
1:48:35
own plate, you know, yeah, hold up
1:48:37
Adam Curry: people. You got a house like Johnny, you've
1:48:39
removed all your family members loaded up
1:48:42
John C Dvorak: with books. So you can get all these cookbooks,
1:48:46
books I got all these books. No, it's It's a bonanza. I have them
1:48:51
they're cheap.
1:48:51
Adam Curry: Yeah. So they expunge or pulp expensive art
1:48:57
books, historical atlases and our library and says library
1:49:02
land has collectively lost its
1:49:04
John C Dvorak: shot for stop, stop. Let's stop and mention
1:49:09
what they mean when they say pulp. Damage means they grind up
1:49:15
the books. Yeah, and send it to a paper recycling company. Yeah,
1:49:20
so this is worse than book burning.
1:49:23
Adam Curry: By the way, I'd like to point out that that the media
1:49:26
is using banning burning and using all kinds of B words were
1:49:31
really it's limiting access to children it's a little different
1:49:35
and they make it all sound so Nazi like
1:49:39
John C Dvorak: they want to turn all our kids into patriots
1:49:43
Hitler you can elect a union.
1:49:47
Adam Curry: Library land has collectively lost its mind
1:49:50
libraries have forgotten their core business is giving patrons
1:49:53
the books and info that patrons want. Libraries have shown their
1:49:57
core value of neutrality in favor of virtues. Originally,
1:50:01
and I'm I'm you know, in 1987, I was asked by the ALA, the
1:50:06
American Library Association to participate in a poster campaign
1:50:10
for them as an MTV. You were Yes. And I
1:50:14
John C Dvorak: wish I can't tell you stop reading from the note.
1:50:17
Adam Curry: No, this is me as I'm sorry. No, it's me. This is
1:50:20
me. I stopped reading from the note. No. And there was a poster
1:50:24
campaign and was me. In my full MTV glorified hair, I can't find
1:50:29
it. It was like it was I'm sure the tagline is like, reading is
1:50:35
good kids. Now something like that. I wish I could find that.
1:50:40
I wish I could find a copy of that poster. There was it was an
1:50:42
actual poster and they put it in libraries. Hey,
1:50:44
John C Dvorak: yeah, you shouldn't have that on your wall
1:50:46
of shame.
1:50:48
Adam Curry: Well, these days I'd be ashamed of it or you know,
1:50:50
kind of like you have your
1:50:52
John C Dvorak: book owning the word good with the EU is
1:50:54
probably.
1:50:56
Adam Curry: Okay, John. Thank you, Francisco. Scaramanga
1:50:59
Should we just take a quick look at some of the other pieces that
1:51:03
didn't make the cut that we had such arguments over? Because let
1:51:06
me see if I can just
1:51:09
John C Dvorak: do COVID Campbell piece I liked a lot. I liked the
1:51:13
no agenda library card the little
1:51:15
Adam Curry: stop. That's not where you started. That's not at
1:51:19
all where you started.
1:51:20
John C Dvorak: Where did I start? Okay.
1:51:22
Adam Curry: So you started with the MEK. You started with the
1:51:25
alien. You wanted the aliens?
1:51:27
John C Dvorak: I started with a with a sombrero a flying saucer
1:51:31
flying
1:51:31
Adam Curry: saucer, right. And I said, well, a looks like AI. By
1:51:36
the way, almost everything looks like aI these days. Everyone's
1:51:39
using it because it is it is. And I said Adam Korean Johnson
1:51:43
of work is no little Mexican dancing dudes. It's too small.
1:51:47
John C Dvorak: Course. That's what you said. Because it is. I
1:51:51
agreed with that. The Mexican dancer too small. Then I started
1:51:54
looking around and I went I think it went to the card next.
1:51:58
Adam Curry: No, you went to the quarantine camp signs.
1:52:04
John C Dvorak: Color the COVID camp toxic shock.
1:52:06
Adam Curry: Yeah. And I was like, that's kind of a played
1:52:09
out. No, no, I'm sorry. You're right. You started with the
1:52:12
library. I love the library card. I'm like, Dude, why if it
1:52:16
said 2008 on it, maybe.
1:52:19
John C Dvorak: But that was a that was a kicker. That 2008
1:52:23
little gang. Yeah, I had to give him
1:52:26
Adam Curry: one you did so and then after I was correct about
1:52:30
two of these. You said urine and nude. And what else did we argue
1:52:34
about? And then I would I couldn't I
1:52:36
John C Dvorak: went to the camp and you said dad at camp. And so
1:52:42
I
1:52:43
Adam Curry: think you're right. I think that's that is what I
1:52:44
said about the camp.
1:52:46
John C Dvorak: And then there was some different things you
1:52:49
want to do. Let's let's stop there because you kept pushing
1:52:52
for the Nico's curry Divorce Act Mexican guy jumping out of it. I
1:52:57
liked that one. Nyko Simes. Ven go on pause. Yes. I
1:53:01
Adam Curry: liked that one. Yeah,
1:53:03
John C Dvorak: it's like,
1:53:05
Adam Curry: and then I didn't and then as a compromise. I
1:53:09
tried to throw out the Canadian Camp Fire by Matt Boisvert. And,
1:53:14
you know, which had showed a fire.
1:53:16
John C Dvorak: Right? You You came up with that? And I said,
1:53:18
What? No, you
1:53:21
Adam Curry: didn't you were actually quite you said, yeah.
1:53:24
But you know, I see the maple leaf but you don't see the fire.
1:53:27
And I and I conceded. And then you said, Well, what about that
1:53:32
mockingbird thing? That then we both looked at it. And we went
1:53:36
John C Dvorak: I was exasperated at that point. And so I came up
1:53:40
with
1:53:41
Adam Curry: to go to the to the stupid supermarket, the one with
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all the ugly, the ugly produce. You want it to leave, you're
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done. You were done with me. You're done with the show.
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You're done with everybody. That's not true.
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John C Dvorak: And so, okay, so we really looked at it. I looked
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at it, we couldn't see anything wrong with it.
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Adam Curry: And that when you even mentioned that it had the
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little pride pride colors behind it was nice
1:54:07
John C Dvorak: little pride colors. That was a nice touch.
1:54:11
Adam Curry: Turns out to be one of the better ones. I mean,
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killer it really is. Who knew? Who knew? Sometimes that's how
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it goes. And I'm I am proud of us for sticking with it. No one
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rage quit. No, we stuck through it.
1:54:27
John C Dvorak: But when you really have issues, we end up
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going into the archives. We didn't know we didn't go to the
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archive. Now we go to the archives. Well, let's take see
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what was submitted to Vince show 1100. Look at some pieces there.
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Adam Curry: We got lucky we didn't have to resort to the
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evergreens.
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John C Dvorak: Yeah, the evergreens which are a mess, by
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the way,
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Adam Curry: like no one wants the evergreens to be pulled up.
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So that's talent, and we thank Francisco Scaramanga for
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providing us with pure raw talent. Great job. Thank you to
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all the artists who diligently for Vitus with choices please
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back off on the AI people if you can just see it change you can
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see in the past few months you can see is all AI even people
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who are really good artists are I think that they're putting
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their their art into AI and say hey slick this up a bit you know
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what I mean? But it's everything seems AI II to me AIA Am I Am I
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wrong and seeing this change
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John C Dvorak: I saw weeks ago Yeah, okay. You're an artist? No
1:55:31
well I just saw a weeks ago good I mean soon as this was comic
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strip blogger gave up on the on his butt drawings and started
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submitting you know, things that are 3d. It's kind of a giveaway.
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Adam Curry: Once the asked when to 3d, we knew it was all over.
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That's how it goes people. Let's talk about some treasure. We
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Oh, you
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Adam Curry: have a knighthood. Good.
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John C Dvorak: I have it. ITM thanks for all you do. Is there
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a simple note? Jim Bob way of Shotzi land and Grand Duchess
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she should be by now. Anyway, Marianne Schneeberger she of the
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healing hands. This worry will be at my side in Valhalla one
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day. No, no jingles, no karma.
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Adam Curry: Okay. Next is Jean morphus in Bellingham,
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Massachusetts. 34567. See attached note which I have in
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front of me. It is a it's not just a note, it's two pages of
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typed information on his own classy letterhead, and we will
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not read everything. However, he says enclosed please find a
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measure of value. Some reaction to John's hypothesis that the
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mafia conducted the JFK assassination and the CIA was
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powerless on the sidelines. It is certainly possible if not
1:57:57
likely, that mobsters were the triggerman in the USA in the
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assassination. convicted felon James files claims to have been
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the shooter on the grassy knoll and named Charles Nicoletti and
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John Rosselli as associates, the FBI investigated but some
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concluded he wasn't reliable, of course, had they concluded he
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was reliable it would destroy both the lone gunman and the
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magic bullet arguments. Connections between the Intel
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agencies and the mob are widely documented. However, the
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gigantic cover up was certainly the domain of Intel agencies. It
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is equally likely likely that CIA officers Allen Dulles and
1:58:32
Richard Helms were the masterminds and it gives us
1:58:35
many, many points to back up his his thesis. Yeah. And which I
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don't think we have to go through but they are all
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perfect. They're all interesting, all interesting,
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and we appreciate that and we will give him a double karma.
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Just for the effort. Thank you. Karma
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John C Dvorak: and onward with where are we? Oh, it Catherine
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night. She's in Mesa, Arizona. And she has a switcheroo. Oh,
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all right. I have to get better at his ITM. I previously
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neglected to thank my son Billy night. She is she's in with
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33333 for hitting me in the mouth. He qualifies as a
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douchebag. But please credit this donation to him. So he can
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be dee doo dee doo. And he has been added to the birthday list
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and 919 Thank you for your courage. Very
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Adam Curry: nice. Thank you, Sharon. Push NiaK St. Paul,
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Minnesota 333 dot 33. One of our famous favorite amounts. Good
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day, Adam and John. I'm ashamed to say I've been listening to
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your podcast since the pandemic began. And I haven't donated
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till now. I'm sorry. I love the show. It truly is the best
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there. It's nice to listen To news and have a few laughs My
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friend Sarah dame of the Lake Mary gates introduced me to the
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show and we chat and share laughs about your shows and all
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the valuable information they're in. She called me out as a
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douchebag a while ago and it's about time I get d douche.
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You've been de douche. I was born and raised in Canada and
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now living in the US. I love hearing about all the crap going
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down in Canada as well as the US. What did you call Trudeau? A
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wet noodle? That's funny. Couple of items to mention whoever said
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something negative about John's voice needs to get a life. Oh,
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you got it. We got a fan girl here. And in your recent
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donation segment the bit about Obama's Dick was kind of funny.
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It's okay to add something useless and distasteful but a
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bit funny. I was okay with it. I had a good laugh. We're one for
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one John one. I'd like to call out my friend Joe Lena as a
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douchebag no jingles no karma. Just keep doing what you're
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doing. Thank you for the laughs and all your hard work behind
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the scenes cheers Sharon puts me out good thank you Sharon. We
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appreciate those nice note very nice note loved it CNR
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John C Dvorak: in King George Virginia. Well, we are on our
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way to another gorgeous meet up. She oh you are I think she might
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have had decided that today is the day that we will claim our
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first executive producer credit as we walk hand in hand toward
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the round table C and R in K G
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Adam Curry: Oh nice. Okay. We have sir CB checking in from
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Harris, Minnesota 333 AC and JCD greetings to all producers the
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Please title me Sir See me Baronet of the builders. Can I
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Baronet of the builders long enough.
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up first. Jay's gonna step down to jobs calm is syrup in
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Associate Executive producer says he's enjoying the show
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birthday donations from my lovely wife Robin today. 917 my
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Thanks for all you do. Know jangles just some relationship
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Adam Curry: Relationship karma. Here you go. You've got karma.
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ducks. 2222 222 dot 22. Sorry. He's Associate Executive
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producers. Hey, John and Adam in the morning I'm setting this row
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of ducks in honor of Jamie gray. My smokin hot husband turns 50
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On September 16. He hit me in the mouth in 2020. And we
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haven't stopped listening since. As this is our first donation a
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D douching. For him would be much appreciated.
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Unknown: You've been D deuced.
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Adam Curry: I shall remain a douche but not for much longer.
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Thank you for the amygdala shrinkage. His only request
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other than jingles is to confirm that we really could seek refuge
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with Adam and Tina if we need to flee from the insanity of our
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totalitarian regime here in Canada Navia it's getting wild
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up here in all the wrong ways. Did I say that? Was that I say
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that they could seek refuge with
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John C Dvorak: us if Yeah, you did. Well, there you go.
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Adam Curry: We have a guest room limited availability. His jingle
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requests our call to prayer. Fletcher what is I don't I don't
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know a call to prayer from Fletcher and this is a weird
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one. I think
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John C Dvorak: it's the one where the where he's kind of
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chanting this Ali Akbar. Okay, well, I
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Adam Curry: have that one. Sunday service. Oh yes, I got
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that one and the burglary burglary Amen. Thanks for
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tu tu tu tu which is a row of ducks. ITM John and Adam a row
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of ducks and a 55555 Switcheroo from Sir Ohio bloke qualifies me
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son of a bloke? I may have waffles and wine at the round
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table. Also gonna have a birthday shout out for myself
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September 17 25 years my brother Dominic on September 28. Check
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Everybody's there's a big list. It's a big list. And my mother
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execs and Associates. Dear Na, homies, I was cheering and
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listening to Episode 5091 I had to drop everything and donate so
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I can pitch it John. Now I'm just a lowly industrial
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engineer, but even I know that hydrogen is an extremely viable
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alternative for Coke and steelmaking and damage. John,
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you should too. I guess about the clean steel that we were
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talking about which has nothing to do with this but he feels you
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should have you should have piped up and said dusting off
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your college chemistry book. Then be reminded that hydrogen
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is also a very potent reducing agent instead of giving off co2
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like burning coal the byproduct is pure water. Now what was he
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the point was he was making is that purified coal is used as a
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reducing agent for removal of impurities and pig iron. We
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don't have to invoke any climate change hysteria to agree on I
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think he needs to do his own podcast is what I'm thinking.
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John C Dvorak: Ah, this has a potential
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Adam Curry: Yeah, he does. He does I mean he has knowledge he
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John C Dvorak: you have to have which is unlike most podcasters
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Adam Curry: good point and his point was that he was
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disappointed that you didn't pipe up and
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John C Dvorak: nightly just still making it's never been
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Adam Curry: Yeah. Anyway, we appreciate your support and your
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celebrated yesterday turned 50 Sure Ohio bloke for son of a
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a big nation no agenda nation or for some of you get mo nation
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and by getting to know people in your local community you are
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actually doing a service to yourself and your community
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because as you know connection is protection. And in the
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Netherlands they spent two days connecting and protecting up in
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the rice freeze lounge with all kinds of activities over 30
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people and as usual for the Netherlands there stone and send
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us a meet up report Special Agent
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Unknown: steel Johnson report India Tango three three Mike,
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they have a weird obsession with goats. I'm expecting one to be
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slaughtered later, it figured out Obama's day this problem
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You're all eating meat co2 emissions through the roof. They
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keep calling me Mr. spook I can't figure out why.
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According to Mandor I'm not just still trying to find out why the
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Norwegian and Beagle was wasn't a quiz
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night or doing some sort of cult leg dance ritual was unlike
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anything we've ever seen. I saw their easy three wrestling their
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throws from the roots day to their eating some kind of tree
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bark resin and talking about trolls. I'm pretty sure it's a
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ritual or drugs and a report
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Adam Curry: like a Dutch Dukes of Hazzard somehow. Here's our
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Lincoln's meet up Report. Welcome to
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Unknown: the Denver meet up at Lincoln's Roadhouse.
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This is Sir our Peter reconditioning
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happy to be out here. Here's my bitcoin brother
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a quarry. Just send a shout out to all you people out there by
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Sir Scott stay in dry.
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This is Dennis I heard this place was so cool. I had to come
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all the way out from Wisconsin, Jim from Denver in the morning
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sir soothsayer here happy to report the surprise beer is not
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Bud Light. And we are out. Thanks, everybody. No, thank
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Adam Curry: you. And when you have a meet up today,
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Charlotte's first annual golfing meetup kicked off this morning
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and that is at the Charlotte North Carolina tradition golf
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club and then the flying saucer drought dropped Imperium. So I
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guess they're having a good time. We'll find out hopefully
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with a media report. Also the 33rd annual net for humanity
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takes place today it's underway at Duckworth grill and Taphouse
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and Charlotte, North Carolina the tribal summer September
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summary review mirror meetup also underway in Indianapolis.
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You know the indie people are all crazy blind our brewery and
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the two hot Tucson meetup will kick off this Thursday next show
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day at four o'clock at canyons crown in Tucson, Arizona. Oh,
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that is Dane Beth who was organizing and the sandy brigade